FKK Paradise - Stuttgart

[Ibn Buttita]

Combining tourism with this hobby is a sub-hobby of mine, which made Stuttgart a natural destination: it's a classy city with plenty of attractions in town as well as in the attractive Swabian countryside. More important, Stuttagart is within striking distance of Frankfurt (under 2 hours, 30 Euros buying DBahn tickets in advance), and the surrounding area is home to a clutch of FKKs. With Paradise, Sakura, and Safari all less than a half hour by S-Bahn from the center of Stuttgart, it seemed like a great place to spend three days on a five-day Germany break back in mid-August.

After I arrived in Stuttgart on a Tuesday afternoon, the first thing I did was buy a 3-day travel pass for 15 Euros, which would cover the entire area transportation network including my 3 FKK destinations. After checking into my hotel near Stadtmitte S-Bahn I got back down to the station, but a few steps away, and was quickly enroute to Echterdingen, my S-Bahn ticket to Paradise in hand. From Echterdingen station it's about a ten-minute walk to the club.

FKK Paradise is in the running for the best Orientalist-Middle Eastern harem thecor of any of the saunaclubs. It may be the kind of paradise jihadis have in mind, but there are no 72 virgins here. That said, there weren't even 72 girls (more like 20 to 30) at Paradise, and frankly, if this lineup was my reward after strapping a suicide vest to my chest, I would be mighty disappointed.

That's pretty harsh, but the bottom line from my visit to Paradise was that the caliber of girls did not come close to matching the quality of the club itself. With dozens of Moroccan lanterns throwing their light, and piles of finely upholstered pillows to lounge on, hookah den (plus the large projection screen showing football matches) , you get the feel you're in the man-cave of an Arabian prince. And the wellness area is nicely appointed, thoughtfully supplied with pitchers of juice and water, and a place to get away from the girls from a while though it's open to the main room (the girls seem to be prohibited from the area) this makes it a good place to survey the women without getting approached.

It's a beautiful place, with an interesting in-theround kind of layout. Despite that, the sightlines are very poor, there aren't a lot of places to sit where you can get a great view of a large number of the girls (in contrast to sitting at the bar at Sharks in Darmstadt, for example). The exception is the mezzanine encircling the main room from above, on the level where the bedrooms are, from which you can get a bird's eye view of things.

It may have been the time of year with many girls on holiday, but I had a hard time putting together a to-do list. A lot of the girls just kind of looked out of shape, or were otherwise uninspiring; for some reason I noticed a number of them with their hair pulled back in pony tails which ought to look cute but here just highlighted how plain their faces were. I did spot one girl who looked like a Brazilian I had gone with at the FKK in Freiburg a couple of years before, but she disappeared early in my visit. A curvy blonde with big natural tits appealed too, but I also didn't strike quickly enough and soon she was gone. I eventually did walk past a cute brunette Romanian sitting on the couches by the bar. We had a friendly chat, but one in which she did not disclose that she did not kiss, as I learned in the room. She had a nice petite body but the session was nothing special.

The highlight of much of the rest of the night was the food served for dinner. After dining I searched and spent lots of time in the wellness area because I couldn't find anyone suitable for taking to the room. As the time to take the last train back to Stuttgart approached, it seemed that this would be a record one-fuck FKK visit for me. It took a couple of German girls I bumped into in the empty upstairs hallways to save me from this fate.

Once I saw tall and slender Josephine (a hottie) and thick but cute Annmarie, I ordered up a quick threesome. Kissing was not on the menu, but that was compensated for by the sight of the two of them kneeling down and licking up and down either side of my cock while I sat on the couch in the room. Josephine rode me well, but as usual, I gravitated toward one girl, focusing my energies on Annmarie as I fucked her in missionary while looking at her cute face, which brought on a nice cum. The top-notch service these two Hamburg girls provided ensured that the night wasn't a complete bust, but this visit was definitely not the way I wanted to experience Paradise.

[XXL]

I hasten to confirm the previous poster's conclusion that the line-up in no way matches the facilities. This is now my 3rd visit and the line-up was again anticlimatic. This would seem to confirm that the limiting factor for FKKs is the supply of girls. I mean if you have the money to build such luxurious surroundings, you must have the money to bring girls over from abroad, right? Well, it does't seem to work that way. The owner is the same as Palace's, and guess what? I was also dissappointed with Palace. Maybe the owners lack the connections or bribing power necessary to stock up on top girls? Maybe local authorities can cripple a place just by dragging their feet about work permits.

I was also a little bit irritated by the reception woman's unfriendliness (contrast this with the warm welcome I got at Flamingo Island 90 km further North near Karlsruhe). I was also given the cold shoulder by the woman at the bar when I asked for a cappucino. "I'll give it to you for free just this time", she said gruffly, "but normally it costs 3 euros, OK?" WTF? I assumed non-alcoholic drinks were free, just like any customer would. If they have cash flow problems, do they expect to solve them by charging for crappy capuccinos? Surely something is not going according to plan in this FKK.

[Dufey]

I hasten to confirm the previous poster's conclusion that the line-up in no way matches the facilities. This is now my 3rd visit and the line-up was again anticlimatic. This would seem to confirm that the limiting factor for FKKs is the supply of girls. I mean if you have the money to build such luxurious surroundings, you must have the money to bring girls over from abroad, right? Well, it does't seem to work that way. The owner is the same as Palace's, and guess what? I was also dissappointed with Palace. Maybe the owners lack the connections or bribing power necessary to stock up on top girls? Maybe local authorities can cripple a place just by dragging their feet about work permits.

I was also a little bit irritated by the reception woman's unfriendliness (contrast this with the warm welcome I got at Flamingo Island 90 km further North near Karlsruhe). I was also given the cold shoulder by the woman at the bar when I asked for a cappucino. "I'll give it to you for free just this time", she said gruffly, "but normally it costs 3 euros, OK?" WTF? I assumed non-alcoholic drinks were free, just like any customer would. If they have cash flow problems, do they expect to solve them by charging for crappy capuccinos? Surely something is not going according to plan in this FKK.XXL and Ibn be.

Thank you for the confirmation that Paradise continues to be underwhelming and concurs with my concept of the Paradise offering. This will save me and any friends making a detour to go specifically to visit Paradise in immediate future days. Thank you again for the savings there on the choice.

XXL, regarding the limiting factor with girl supply, this may have something to do with the providers of girls maybe not liking the place too or the management. It could explain why Palace gets a type of girl over other types of girls that are freshly provided from Romania and Bulgaria. As with all things, even the managers go where the money goes unless as you suggest the Paradise management spent some money as well with procurement such as on the managers of the girls. Good point you make.

Regarding the cappuccino, I have always understood that that type of coffee was a paid for extra over and above the entry fee. Normal coffee is inclusive. So maybe if anything if you look at it from another view the bar lady did you a favour by not charging you for the coffee. If you take a look at the Paradise drinks menu you will see that the cappuccino does cost extra sadly.

Thank you for the reports and the feedback that the Paradise line-up is not worth the visit when you have the Hessen clubs at your disposal.

Although I do enjoy the wellness facilities at Paradise like the sauna with a view of the lounge, the walk in freezer to cool down in, the selection of fruit juices and water on ice just outside the sauna for a quickly accessible drink and the food at Paradise is a good standard and there is a variety of things on offer just like it is at Palace.

[Hessen Bub]

Thank you for the confirmation that Paradise continues to be underwhelming and concurs with my concept of the Paradise offering. This will save me and any friends making a detour to go specifically to visit Paradise in immediate future days. Thank you again for the savings there on the choice.

Thank you for the reports and the feedback that the Paradise line-up is not worth the visit when you have the Hessen clubs at your disposal.I found a very different situation this week. Line-Up was great, over 70 girls, divers in age, nationality, degree of "siliconization". Had a gread time at Paradise.

HB.

[Der Auslander]

I found a very different situation this week. Line-Up was great, over 70 girls, divers in age, nationality, degree of "siliconization". Had a gread time at Paradise.

HB.Yes indeed. Some of these past reports are from mid-August and are unlikely to reflect the current line-up. Thank you for the up to date information Hessen Bub.

[PussyLiccker]

I found a very different situation this week. Line-Up was great, over 70 girls, divers in age, nationality, degree of "siliconization". Had a gread time at Paradise.

HB.This is quite a contrast from the reports came before. I'm guessing August the girls were out on vacation? What day of the week would you expect 70 girls?

[Hessen Bub]

Was a Thursday. Homepage even listed over 80 girls.

HB.

[Girl Hunt]

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[PussyLiccker]

Saarbrcken was raided also if you look in the lounge thread. Same group or chain.

[Sirioja]

Is Anna. De, fake blond with tatoos, not very slim and not tall, still working in Paradise?

In April, I had 1 h 30 wonderful meeting with her. Really friendly and skillful girl, what BJ.

She provides anal but not try.

[StarletVoyager]

Come and say that to the 1000 euro a weekend night spinners at oase driving brand new bmw's and renting their own flats independently. What misery LOL. This is Germany not friggin Haiti.

[Citizen Kane]

Paradise Stuttgart has changed Dessous Tag from Wed to Thu.

[Odiacz]

Recently visited the Paradise in Stuttgart -.

Facilities are absolutely great and the ladies are stunning. Unfortunately I picked the wrong one. Don't go for Daniela. A German Lady. She was for the upsell CIM and she got a bit cross that I wanted to fuck her and not CIM. This meant 15 minutes sex instead of the 30 minutes. On the other side I enjoyed afterwards a massage (non-erotic) which was probably the best I ever had. Anyway, absolutely worthwile to vist. Entrance fee EUR 80,30 min with a Lady EUR 50.

[Hessen Bub]

Hehe. That's Daniela who is hunting down EVERY newbie. I still don't get why guys go with her, she is not attractive, pushy, chubby and the opposite of erotic. Still she manages to make good money at Paradise. Don't think there's even one guy who went with her for a second time.

HB.

[Teensforcash]

I was wondering if a girl by the name of Hannah still works a paradise. She had blonde hair and tattoos on her right arm.

[Ableyone]

Documentary about Paradise next Thursday on C4.

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-mega-brothel

[Member #4674]

Hello,

I have been several times in paradise. It is a very nice club with excellent facilities and some really nice girls.

But there is one thing, for me, I always prefer a room with more light when come with girls that I can see her clearly. I really enjoyed it.

In paradise they have a lot of rooms with a window faces outside that will be fine, but, when the daytime ends, in majority rooms (not all) even I switched all the lamps to maximum I just got a semi-darkness Zimmer with a "good atmosphere".

I have been the zimmer number 4, which is quiet bright some; I would like to ask if anyone know other zimmers that has this conditions like room 4?

I've also posted a similar report on thread Zurich ask about the light in Globe, it is very important for me.

Many thanks for any help!

[Solid State]

Documentary about Paradise next Thursday on C4.

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-mega-brothelJust seen a feature in the Sun newspaper talking about this club and the program on channel 4 tonight 10 pm.

[Citizen Kane]

Documentary about Paradise next Thursday on C4.

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-mega-brothelWell that was a balanced and not at all biased view of Prostitution in Germany. Complete hatchet job.

Apparently business is so poor the Paradise chain is going out of business and the owners son killed himself because he had to work in the sauna.

The finale was a police raid involving 800 officers (4 clubs) resulting in a massive 5 arrests. Tax payers money well spent. Of course there was no mention of anyone actually being charged.

[Wanking]

Available for next 29 days.

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-mega-brothel/on-demand/59625-001

[Hessen Bub]

the owners son killed himself because he had to work in the sauna.That's BS. The reason was not that he had to work in the sauna. Still the topic is not for a public board.

HB.

[Citizen Kane]

That's BS. The reason was not that he had to work in the sauna. Still the topic is not for a public board.

HB.The vast majority of the 'documentary' was total BS. I think it was made by a feminist group.

[Faceless78]

The vast majority of the 'documentary' was total BS. I think it was made by a feminist group.I don't know why but I can't play it, after I click accept and play, it just not moving. even it's BS, l'd like to watch it. i watched sth about Pascha last year, quite fun though it's not really how it works inside

[Citizen Kane]

I don't know why but I can't play it, after I click accept and play, it just not moving. even it's BS, l'd like to watch it. i watched sth about Pascha last year, quite fun though it's not really how it works insideIt's up on the torrent sites. Just google 'The Mega Brothel torrent'.

[Faceless78]

It's up on the torrent sites. Just google 'The Mega Brothel torrent'.Thanks, downing with 100 kb / s-.

[Wanking]

Here it is.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k4PPI6mJgVgrVfa0n3m.

[Faceless78]

Here it is. Njoy

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k4PPI6mJgVgrVfa0n3m.Thanks for the kindness, I've finished the video through downloading. 3 things leave me the most impression: the crazy naked feminists, cool Micheal ended up in prison and owner's hot daughter.

Actually it makes me want to visit the clubs more, when scenes of the inside remind me I could be one of them.

[Citizen Kane]

Thanks for the kindness, I've finished the video through downloading. 3 things leave me the most impression: the crazy naked feminists, cool Micheal ended up in prison and owner's hot daughter.

Actually it makes me want to visit the clubs more, when scenes of the inside remind me I could be one of them.Does anyone know how the situation with Micheal panned out? Did he get out in the end?

[Anaximander]

I liked the documentary, of course they try to make it somehow "anti-prostitution" but I came away with a more balanced perspective. And yes it definitely increased my desire to visit.

One contradiction which hit me, was that it is alleged (by the feminists etc) that the clubs are trafficking girls, whereas the girls describe the "loverboy" phenomenon of how they get into the business. In this case, whilst they may be exploited, it is by the loverboys and not the clubs. To the clubs they are just girls looking for work.

Also I am interested to hear about Michael's current status.

[Solid State]

Thanks for the kindness, I've finished the video through downloading. 3 things leave me the most impression: the crazy naked feministsIn my twisted little mind some of the naked feminists looked quite doable. Too bad all that goodness has gone to waste.

[Hessen Bub]

At minute 12:30 you can see Felicia, Ex-Sharks Flori.

I always thought Berretin was an idiot and behaving stupidly in the club. Hopefully he had a good time in prison.

[TankTank123]

At minute 12:30 you can see Felicia, Ex-Sharks Flori.Wow, Flori in the video seems to have aged a lot since I last sessioned with her in 2012. It is kinda sad to see her in such a pensive state, as she always seemed to be in a happy and crazy mood in her earlier days in Sharks. Thanks for pointing out her appearance as otherwise I would not have bothered to watch the video.

I am rather surprised that breasts were shown in a Channel 4 program! The only occasions I had seen breasts on Channel 4 were those of African women in travelogues and some programmes on breastfeeding.

[Samplerr]

I am rather surprised that breasts were shown in a Channel 4 program! The only occasions I had seen breasts on Channel 4 were those of African women in travelogues and some programmes on breastfeeding.Tits out is routine for Channel 4 docos, for example.

http://vimeo.com/36880642

http://www.myvidster.com/video/20698972/Date_My_Porn_Star_-_Channel_4_Documentary

[Sebastiane]

I too watched the Channel 4 documentary about Paradise and felt it was made with an agenda for sure -- they are trying to convince the British public to put pressure on the politicians to pass a Sweden-style law banning prostitution (effectively); also to try and encourage it passing in Germany! Little chance of that I think. It was interesting but not balanced for sure.

Anyway it made me think another visit to Paradise was due. So I went today around 3 pm and just got back. It was a nice day.

I am still not sure if I like this place better or Sakura but both are nice for sure! According to the website which I checked before I went there were about 45 odd women present.

Anyway after showering etc. I was planning to wait a bit before choosing my first girl -- the choice was quite good although not too many 9's or 10's IMHO but enough eye candy for sure! --but I sat down on one of the couches next to a dark haired, petite, girl I hadn't seen before and she looked cute like the very good looking girl next door. So we talked and I asked her my standard questions and we went to a room! It was a fantastic session -- the girl was a real star and what I intended be a 30 min warm up session ended up being a 1.5 hour marathon fuck session. I don't think I've fucked continuously so long for a while --we changed positions multiple times and it was very intense with lots of kissing and her pussy was dripping wet, making squelching sounds! With only 5 minutes left though I still hadn't come and so wanked off as she sat on my face. I was exhausted and came like a hose! Poor girl, she was so sweet -- I stopped a couple of times to give her a break from all the fucking but she took it like a pro (which she is!) Very friendly too but quite shy. I really liked her and initially planned on seeing her again before I went but was not able to find her. Allyana / Bulgarian /22/ about 5'1 or so / slim and petite / small breasts / dark hair, straight. Green eyes. (amazing eyes). Fantastic kisser. Very good GFE.

Alyanna (or Illyana): Face / Body / Performance: 7/8/9. Repeat? For sure! Cost: 150 euros for 90 minutes.

(I was rather gutted when I couldn't see her again later although I was so exhausted by then I probably wouldn't have been able to do much!

I then lounged around and had a sauna. I was really very exhausted by all that fucking. Was approached by a few girls but turned them down. Then I had dinner around 6. 30 odd. Very nice it was too. Whilst eating I spotted a tall blonde girl with a sexy one-piece garter like garment on which had a thong -like bottom part which rode up her arse! She had a pretty face which I liked, very leggy, and a great bum. So after eating I rested a bit and then went up to her whilst she was smoking in the smoking area.

She was very friendly too. Romanian. Ellis was her name. 175 cm tall. Great body -- blonde hair was not natural. Pretty nose.

Excellent English. Tits a bit on the small side. Typical model like body and yes she had done some in Romania. So after the usual questions I always ask -- and on getting the right answers -- off we went. To be honest I was in two minds just because I was still so exhausted I was sure I'd not be able to get it up again so soon. But in the room this girl gave one of the best blowjobs I've ever had -- it was incredible -- sloppy, deep, she even gagged a few times and slobbered all over my cock, without any hands, took me all the way included tonguing my balls, really amazing! I was stiffer than a broom in no time! Kissing was average but she was very funny and friendly and very intelligent. Rode me cow style for a bit before I became soft again and so asked her to just blow me in 69 as it was so amazing! Also she lay down as I licked her for a long time. Eventually I did come but the session had gone on to an hour. She farted in my face too which was a first for me and it was exciting but more funny than erotic!

I probably in hindsight should have waited another hour or so but I enjoyed my time in the room with Ellis and would repeat again.

Ellis. Romanian. 23.175 cm slim model type body. 8/9/8. Repeat? Yes. Cost. 150 euros.

After paying her I was really too exhausted to want to go with another girl although I spotted the lithe and lovely Tonia from Sopain doing her usual rounds with her friend and she smiled at me this time during the time we were eating and I thought of spending a 30 min session with her but decided against it as I wasn't 100% sure so decided against.

Another short sauna session and a coffee later I decided to call it quits after looking around for Allyana and not seeing her around.

Total damage: 79 entrance + 150 Allyana (90 minutes) + 150 Ellis (1 hour plus extra for 50) + 25 for taxi back home as I was too tired for public transport. 404 euros.

So yes Paradise is like paradise! I just hope the femi-nazis don't get their way in Germany and lead to the shutting down of all FKKs.

[Hessen Bub]

Ellis or Alice could be E / A from Sharks, she war working at Paradise before. Short blonde hair? When did you visit Paradise?

HB.

[Sebastiane]

Ellis or Alice could be E / A from Sharks, she war working at Paradise before. Short blonde hair? When did you visit Paradise?

HB.Hi HB,

Yes, you're right as she did mention she worked in Darmstadt previously!

And yes she had short blonde hair. Nice girl!

[Howie]

Ellis or Alice could be E / A from Sharks, she war working at Paradise before. Short blonde hair? When did you visit Paradise?

HB.Hi HB,

That would be Alice/Ellis. She did tell me back in late December on her last night at Shark's that she would probably head back to Paradise on her return to Germany in the new year during late January. She wasn't too sure about going back to Sharks. It will be interesting to see if she makes it back to the Hessen region later in the year.

Howie.

[Trajdor]

Could of newbie questions.

How does cash work at the Paradise? Do you just carry the money in your robe pocket to pay for sessions?

Is the food included in the entrance fee or paid for separately?

[Sirioja]

Could of newbie questions.

How does cash work at the Paradise? Do you just carry the money in your robe pocket to pay for sessions?

Is the food included in the entrance fee or paid for separately?Foods and soft drinks are included in 79 entrance, I don't know for beers I don't drink.

You keep money in your locker and you go to it after meeting with the girl to pay her.

There was cash machine in this club.

[Citizen Kane]

Could of newbie questions.

How does cash work at the Paradise? Do you just carry the money in your robe pocket to pay for sessions?

Is the food included in the entrance fee or paid for separately?There's a small safe in the bottom of each locker with instructions on how to program the safe pin number posted in german and english (at least) on the inside of the locker door.

[Wanking]

I always thought Berretin was an idiot and behaving stupidly in the club. Hopefully he had a good time in prison.I had to laugh at what he said about prostitution in London. "In London you don't need prostitutes, you just go to a pub and any fat drunk girl will give you a blowjob".

Yeah if only it was that easy.

Its at the start of the video http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k4PPI6mJgVgrVfa0n3m.

[Myrrh]

I had to laugh at what he said about prostitution in London. "In London you don't need prostitutes, you just go to a pub and any fat drunk girl will give you a blowjob".

Yeah if only it was that easy.I think that is what you call a back handed compliment.

He's basically saying that the best that many of us Brits can ever hope to get on a Friday night is the possible chance of a slobbery old blow job from some fat drunken slag in the wet car park of a pub round the back after closing time, and you'll probably end up being captured on CCTV as well. Or, you could go to Germany.

[Trajdor]

Visited and as a first timer it was everything I had expected and more. I was shown around by a very nice Italian girl and it a little shocking. But in a good way. So many good looking women and so little time!

I was made to feel very welcome and I even had a good laugh in one session. One girl told me that at this rate she'd have to pay me 50 euros which is a nice (if undeserved) compliment.

[Vito Corleone]

I too watched the Channel 4 documentary about Paradise and felt it was made with an agenda for sure -- they are trying to convince the British public to put pressure on the politicians to pass a Sweden-style law banning prostitution (effectively); also to try and encourage it...Great report! Lots of details!

[Danny227]

There is no information (currently) on their website regarding women. Not even pictures.

I plan to visit in the weekend (Paradise and DV) as I need to refresh from Sharks, World, Oase. Is it a good idea or should I try something else? Reports about Paradise are mixed.

[Danny227]

I decided to Paradise for the first time this weekend. Does anyone know how is the lineup there currently?

[Hessen Bub]

They do have a quite accurate list of girls present on their website.

HB.

[Sebastiane]

Just asking. I'm in two minds as it'll be as busy as hell but the number of girls will probably be much higher as others from elsewhere will come for the Party for sure.

[Sebastiane]

Went to the Party after all and had a great time. Eventually the number of girls was very high and a lot of guys kept coming in but I left after midnight and people were still coming in although it was never impossible to not find a good looking chick to bang and there was no waiting around for rooms. Some champagne company was doing a promotion where they were offering free glasses of the bubbly stuff which was nice and a DJ was playing lots of mostly techno music. Fun atmosphere.

Anyway, I sessioned with the following girls in no particular order.

Kristina, Romanian, about 170 cm, very pale skin and dark jet black straight hair. She was sprawling on a sofa when I saw her and was struck by her poise and her breasts as well her attractive face. Had a slightly Oriental look about her too. I thought she was striking. I'd say 8/8/9 (face / body / performance). Was a sweet girl and a very nice session to begin with. Great body and an excellent session for an hour. Would definitely repeat (and initially planned to too but.).

Ani. A brunette German girl. Very outgoing and fun personality and the session was fine. She was wearing a corset and nothing else whereas most of the girls were in some form of lingerie. Great ass. Decent half hour session with some extras. 7/7/7.

Blair, Romanian, around 170 odd. Slim, brunette, striking face, fantastic body with a killer round ass. Initially appeared a bit stand-offish but her beautiful face. Those eyes! - had me hooked and common-sense went out of the window even though she said she doesn't kiss. Still, she really turned me on and she started with a good BJ and then I ate her out and she got really horny and I fucked her hard in various positions; she was actually very good in the sack. If she kissed she'd be a Top Girl. Didn't come in this session but that's because I'd already come twice already in quick succession. Thought about extending to an hour but didn't. Overall, stunning girl, decent overall performance from her but I really enjoyed the fucking. And did it nonstop. An Optifick 9/8/7 - one for face lovers and young tight bodies! Not sure about repeating but probably would due to prettiness of face!

Magda, Romanian, around 1.75 meters. Spotted this dark-haired girl early on but for some reason didn't go with her or was still recovering from other sessions. Then I saw her stand up and walk around the place from behind and her body was, arguably, the best in Paradise that night. Incredible figure. Model-like but with curves. Body definitely close to a 10. She was wearing the skimpiest of panties which rode up her ass-crack and a matching bra. I think they were some blue-green colour. An attractive face too and dark straight hair, medium length. All the girls I did this day were brunettes! Anyway I couldn't resist this body so I approached her and after standard questions we went to a room as she was friendly. She tried really hard but I'd come multiple times by then and though her riding me cowgirl style is one of the cherished memories of my time, and after an hour of sex in various positions we called it quits. I felt slightly annoyed with myself about not waiting a bit longer to recover or not going with her sooner. Anyway, DATY, etc. Was good and her BJ was awesome. 8/9. 5/8 (only LFK). Would definitely repeat again due to how hot she was.

I ate well at the Party. Paradise food is good most days but today was outstanding. I fucked 5 girls altogether and so needed plenty of food in between to replenish my energy. I had (not at once of course) but throughout the course of the day -- leg of rabbit with roast vegetables, entrecte with rosemary potatoes and salad, filet of salmon with Greek salad, various fruits, a couple of desserts (trifles). Worth the entrance price alone!

Around 11 pm the number of hot babies was very high and I'd already gone with 4 of them but I spotted another stunning model like brunette who I approached and she was called Robin apparently, from Romania. She was unfortunately already booked for a long session by another guy and I wasn't able to go with her but she is on my To-Do list.

Spotted at least 2 more similar, tall, leggy brunette models and one of them was available and also had, for me at least, an almost perfect face. I knew I had to have her. So I approached and she was friendly, said 'yes' to my questions and so off we went. By now I thought I was exhausted physically but I couldn't let the opportunity of fucking such a stunning beauty pass.

Her name was Aria and she was, again, Romanian. Around 176 I'd say, early 20's. Tall, leggy, wavy black hair, an aquiline nose, dark smokey eyes, toned everything. Wow! We went to a room and when she took off her bra and panties and lay sprawled on the large bed I was just stunned by how perfect she was. Her breasts were possibly the best I've ever felt. They were firm and natural like the domes of the Taj Mahal. Skin soft like silk. I sucked on them greedily and then went down to DATY. Everything about her was wonderful! Her kissing was sensual and soft and passionate. Though I was tired she had me harder than a broomstick in short time and the next hour -- I decided to extend the session! -- was a dream and I fucked her in many positions and was harder than I've been for ages. Doggy was especially memorable for me but so was cowgirl, her legs on my shoulders, her legs in a V position, and variations on missionary. I finally came with a few minutes left and we talked and cuddled and it was a wonderful GFE. Was loathe to go but definitely plan on seeing her again if I can! Aria 9.5/9.5/9. Repeat? Definitely. She has made it to my list of favourite girls!

I showered and called a cab soon afterwards. My total spend for the day was 100 + 150 + 100 + 50 + 100 + 79 entrance. So, 579 euros but I ate amazing food, chilled out in a jacuzzi, watched scores of semi-nude and nude young beauties all day and night, and fucked 5 of them, drank champagne and listened to music. I think it was worth it.

[PussyLiccker]

Thanks for the report on the party, sounds like a good time there. I wish I was around for it to see what girls showed up there. Haven't checkout out Paradise in a long time, and my recent visit to Sakura wasn't the best. Perhaps I should have checked out Paradise instead as I recall more girls and more lookers there on my past visits. The girls you listed are tall, which I'm into also.

[Hessen Bub]

I'd always prefer Paradise over Sakura.

Did all the sessions include DFK? Thanks.

HB.

[Sebastiane]

I'd always prefer Paradise over Sakura.

Did all the sessions include DFK? Thanks.

HB.Yes, Paradise is a cool place. Sakura has lovely girls and the wellness facilities are second-to-none but the atmosphere is slightly boring. Then again I've not gone on a weekend or stayed so late so can't really compare.

All the girls included DFK except one of them who did not kiss at all.

[Sebastiane]

Thanks for the report on the party, sounds like a good time there. I wish I was around for it to see what girls showed up there. Haven't checkout out Paradise in a long time, and my recent visit to Sakura wasn't the best. Perhaps I should have checked out Paradise instead as I recall more girls and more lookers there on my past visits. The girls you listed are tall, which I'm into also.Yes there were a lot of girls there who are usually not seen at Paradise (well not by me and I've been a fair number of times now such that.

I can spot the regulars)- many of them from other clubs no doubt just for the party- and lot of them were tall, model like, types.

[Sebastiane]

The girl who I went with who was called 'Eria ' (she said it as 'Area') was really very beautiful and I remember she said she has also worked in Ingolstadt before. She looked a bit like the Greek model below (with a slightly more hooked nose).

She has mesmerized me. Can't stop thinking about her! She was tall, lithe, beautiful, with a perfect body and magnificent breasts.

[PussyLiccker]

The girl who I went with who was called 'Eria ' (she said it as 'Area') was really very beautiful and I remember she said she has also worked in Ingolstadt before. She looked a bit like the Greek model below (with a slightly more hooked nose).

She has mesmerized me. Can't stop thinking about her! She was tall, lithe, beautiful, with a perfect body and magnificent breasts.You should not post look a likes, it's a sin here. Kidding. :D There's just been unnecessary drama on the Oase thread regarding some pictures posted.

Thanks for the look a like, probably better than imagining how she looks.

[Comvos2002]

I will drive through Stuttgart on Monday evening, do you think the club will be empty? Is it a good idea to visit the club?

Thanks.

[XXL]

My recent visits had been on Saturdays in early afternoon and had been disappointing. It was very different this time (Thursday, 10 pm). Nearly all the girls I saw were new to me and there were not too many men. Paradise Stuttgart is back on my list, if only on account of its closer proximity to the motorway than Sakura.

I stayed at Holiday Inn Express. The hotel is really close to the FKK (400 meters according to my GPS). It's a dark and lonely 400 meters to walk at night but if you think (like I do) that Stuttgart is safe you can spare yourself the trouble of getting your car out of the hotel underground garage. I had a queen size bed with a reasonable mattress, the latter a rarity in 3-star hotels in Germany, but the sound-proofing was not up to scratch. Next time I'll contrive to get a room looking out to the other side (the FKK side see if I can avoid the traffic noise coming from the motorway side. Breakfast was good and tasted all the better since I was looking forward to testing Paradise Saarbrcken on that very same say (my report in the relevant thread).

[Jmioffe]

I finally got around to watching the channel 4 doc, thanks for posting. I thought it was a pretty fair treatment. There was a slight agenda showing the dark side of legalization of prostitution, but I think as a British person weighing whether or not to support it, I would want to see details like this. I think it's only fair they hit the pimp angle, but it was pretty light, imo.

It was also good to see a lot of the things that I've off-handedly observed, affirmed. The girls are not making a crazy amount of money.

At 12:00, Michael says a girl can make 15,000 in 3 days. But that's at the top end. He says most make 5 K to 8 K a month. That's 60 K to 96 K. At one point, Josie says an average day is 15 to 20 clients. If every day is a good day, and if she works six days a week, that's what -- 250,000 Euros counting expenses? Tax-free, so sure, a pretty good living. She even estimates 50,000 men, so that's about her total over a lifetime. It's still relatively modest. It's only doctor or CEO pay for a year or two. I've talked to girls about the labels they like and the things they consume. It's very middle class in my experience.

It's pretty safe to say there are aspects of pimping in this world. On the other hand, it's not universal. It's nice to see that there are also good ways for someone like Josie, who would otherwise be working in a McDonalds, to make a good salary, and not be under the thumb of criminals.

However, the filmmakers are quick to point out even Josie might not be in this world if she had not been a survivor of sexual abuse. I've seen a lot similar said about porn actresses. I'm not sure that's true. Even if it is, that doesn't mean the option of making money this way should be closed off.

Sex is a pleasure, and like most sins, like gambling and alcohol, there is a danger of addiction and exploitation. As much evil comes from booze and gambling as prostitution. Any sin draws the criminal element. I don't think the issue is to abolish the sin, but to lessen the impact of the criminal element, as casinos and bars have done.

Sex, however, is a little trickier because it carries an element of stigma that gambling and boozing doesn't. One of the legitimate dangers of legalization connected more to the stigma than the sin itself is that it's hard to escape this world. Josie alludes to not having friends outside it. Michael's relationship with his wife seems to be affected by it. I think about it too at times with the girls I've been with who are newer to this world. I think about it myself as I sometimes forgo relationships with less attractive real women for the temporary ones. We're all mortgaging our futures, in a sense.

I'm not sure if it will ever be possible to get rid of this stigma though. Sex is much more elemental than booze or gambling. It's connected to our survival instinct as nothing else is. That's one of the reasons why working girls are looked down upon. But then again, premarital sex was taboo before contraception, because getting pregnant meant the end of a woman's human potential. And that has changed. Sex is being so commodified that maybe one day sex work will lose its stigma. After all, America's number one reality star owes her fame to a sex tape.

I saw some info here on Felicia, and did some German googling about Marc-Dennis Steinz to learn the story of Jurgen's son, but does anyone have anything to say about Josie?

She seemed like a very cheery, positive presence. Attractive too! Very Aryan in the way of the much-celebrated Marie. I thought it was ironic that with all the filmmakers' concerns about exploitation, they were certainly exploiting her too, in that scene where they got her to admit she'd been with 50,000 men. That was as damaging to her future as anything anybody else in her life has done to her, and she probably didn't even get paid for it.

I read this later, interesting take:

http://s.telegraph.co.uk/graphics/projects/welcome-to-paradise/

[Hessen Bub]

There's no other (legal) job in Germany in which you can make that much money without any education at all.

HB.

[McAdonis]

One of the legitimate dangers of legalization connected more to the stigma than the sin itself is that it's hard to escape this world. Josie alludes to not having friends outside it.
That's probably one of the reasons we do not see many ethnic-German girls in the FKK. They have too much to lose. I suspect the majority of the German FKK girls now are already social pariahs--tattoos, gangs, drugs, etc. The Romanian WG's at least can return to a normal life back in their home country and lead a normal life.




I thought it was ironic that with all the filmmakers' concerns about exploitation, they were certainly exploiting her too, in that scene where they got her to admit she'd been with 50,000 men. That was as damaging to her future as anything anybody else in her life has done to her, and she probably didn't even get paid for it.

I hope the tax authorities are not going after Josie based on her disclosure!

[Comvos2002]

This is it, I am done with FKKs very next or inside a city. On top of it this is next to the exhibition area (Messe)!

Been yesterday evening to Palace, some nice, Romanian, ladies but the attitude of most of them has nothing to do with the World's girls for example.

Conclusion is that massive number of customers spoils the service level. I will not enter into details but service and attitude when talking at girls was average or less than it.

Plus I find very annoying to be around with those groups of tourists who are laughing like kids, making obvious jokes and talking out loud, this also spoiled a lot the erotic ambiance which otherwise would exist over there.

So men. As far as possible from big urban areas!

[MrManGuy]

She seemed like a very cheery, positive presence. Attractive too! Very Aryan in the way of the much-celebrated Marie. I thought it was ironic that with all the filmmakers' concerns about exploitation, they were certainly exploiting her too, in that scene where they got her to admit she'd been with 50,000 men. That was as damaging to her future as anything anybody else in her life has done to her, and she probably didn't even get paid for it.

I read this later, interesting take:

http://s.telegraph.co.uk/graphics/projects/welcome-to-paradise/Only once sex is involved are people even slightly worried about exploitation of others. This is because of religion pure and simple. The girls are fine. You make it illegal the religious people are happy and the girls are not fine.

[Frozty]

Today was my first visit to Paradise, Stuttgart. With apologies for length, a few thoughts.

I travelled from London Gatwick on an early flight, taking advantage of Easyjet's new route to Stuttgart. The plane was only one quarter full, so it still has not really got going. However, the light load made the flight very efficient.

One stop on the S-Bahn and I was at Echterdingen, the closest station to the club. It felt like walking distance from the airport. Echterdingen is a quiet suburb, and the local hotels, shops and the club are all a short walk from the station. A complete contrast to the hustle of my usual visit to Artemis, and occasional visit to Frankfurt. Much more time is spent travelling in those cities.

It was evident that Stuttgart is not quite as tourist friendly, in that not all signs are translated into my language. Not a complaint, as we don't translate much into German back in London, but I did notice the difference compared with Berlin and Frankfurt. However, my experiences in those cities meant that I had no difficulties navigating Stuttgart.

I arrived at the Ibis at 10.30, only two hours after take-off in London. I had warned the hotel of my early arrival and, happily, my room was ready. The room is identical to every other Ibis in every other city. Adequate. I caught up on a few emails and calls, and then left for the club.

After a walk of less than ten minutes, I was paying my entrance fee and was handed my robe and key. There are a few variations in the process compared with other clubs that I have visited. I was asked my shoe size and handed a key for a locker with the right size sandals. I was given a decent robe and a locker key on a lanyard. I was directed to the locker room, and it took me a while to realise that I would only get one locker. There is a valuables safe on the floor of each locker to keep your euros. I am used to having a separate locker for my cash. It does mean that the girl comes back with you to the locker room after a session.

The locker room facilities were good, although the showers are frustrating in that they only run for three or four seconds before you have the push the button again. A nice touch is the provision of mouthwash and plastic cups to help freshen up. There were plenty of towels available.

I washed up and stepped out into the main room. I took a quick walk round the ground floor, but didn't immediately understand the layout of the place. However, it is not really that difficult. It is a large square, with plenty of comfortable seating in the middle. The four sides contain, in turn, the bar, the dining area, the stairs to the first floor rooms, and the wellness zone. The thecor is very kitsch, but all in good condition. I couldn't find the outside space, so left that for later.

I started with some breakfast. Hot food was available, but I settled for some fruit and pastries. It was all very fresh and nicely laid out. Food was available all day, and it is also possible to help yourself to tea, coffee and soft drinks all day. Alcoholic drinks are available at the bar. Each drink is apparently recorded on your key FOB, to be paid for when you leave. I like the idea, but I did not try it out. Dinner was served from 6. 30 pm it was ok.

I investigated the wellness area, but did not try any of the facilities. The sauna looked ok, but I wasn't that impressed with facilities. However, that's no problem for me.

I had read on the thread that dessous day had switched from Wednesday to Thursday. I am not a fan of dessous so switched my original plan to visit Sakura on Wednesday, to Paradise instead. As it happens, today was dessous day at Paradise. Not ideal, but I wasn't going to let it ruin my day. I had tried to check the club website last night, but couldn't find any information.

That's my thoughts on travel and facilities. A report on the girls will follow.

[Frozty]

I had arrived at the club at around 11.30 am. It was very quiet. My initial feeling was that the lineup was disappointing. However, it was dessous day, mid-week, and early. My experience at Artemis is that Dessous day tends to increase the number of larger girls most of the girls that I saw at start of my day at Paradise were too large for my taste. By early afternoon, the lineup had improved a lot. There were plenty of options for me. I did not make an effort to count the number of girls, but I estimate between 30 and 40. The girls easily outnumbered the men during my visit.

The atmosphere was very friendly. Many girls approached me, but all in good spirit and without any stress.

My first trip to the room was with Alma from Spain. She does not really fit my profile, but I was attracted by her sweet nature. I have also just returned from a few happy days in Cadaques, which had left me with the urge to sample some more of Spain. We spent 90 minutes, with two sessions in rooms sandwiching half an hour outside on the terrace. The terrace is a useful facility, but the worst outside space of any of the clubs that I have visited. I enjoy a session outside, but decided to go back to the rooms due to that fact that another punter had decided to lay naked, masturbating whilst openly watching Alma and I. It was distracting, to be honest. I enjoyed my time with Alma, but will probably not repeat.

Next up was Laura from Romania. To me, she has the hottest body in the building; her ass is just fantastic. We spent an hour and had a great time. I prefer slow and steady, and I had to work hard to slow her pace down. She can be crazy, but soon adjusted to my pace. We got on well, and I had a great session with her. I had expected that we might not hit it off emotionally, but was prepared to live with that. However, in the end, the chemistry was pretty great, and we understood each other well. I realised that there is no substitute for experience in these situations. Just be open, honest and respectful with the girl and they will usually come round to your preferences. I don't think the session would have worked early on in my FKK career. A definite repeater for me.

My final session of the day was with Tina from Romania. There were a few girls that I wanted to try, but Tina stirred me the most. I don't usually click with blondes (natural or otherwise) but after a few minutes talking with Tina, I had a very good feeling about her. I was right. Very right. My best session since the retirement of Nina at Artemis. I spent some time telling Tina what I wanted, and she was fantastic. The sex was incredibly intense, particularly in reverse cowgirl. A really great end to the day.

In overview, my three sessions were very good, great and exceptional. Every girl that I met was friendly. All three sessions included passionate DFK and plenty of body contact, which is great for me. The rooms were all high quality. I enjoyed my day enough to ditch tomorrow's trip to Sakura. I will return to Paradise.

[Citizen Kane]

I had read on the thread that dessous day had switched from Wednesday to Thursday. I am not a fan of dessous so switched my original plan to visit Sakura on Wednesday, to Paradise instead. As it happens, today was dessous day at Paradise.Apologies. That was from my post in early Dec. The girls told me that it was the first week they had changed it. I'm not big on Dessous either so I was a bit pissed off. I guess they've changed it back again. Think I might ring ahead next time to avoid disappointment.

CK.

[Frozty]

Apologies. That was from my post in early Dec. The girls told me that it was the first week they had changed it. I'm not big on Dessous either so I was a bit pissed off. I guess they've changed it back again. Think I might ring ahead next time to avoid disappointment.

CK.Thanks, but no need. I had a great day! Given the change, I had tried to confirm on their website but found nothing.

The girls told me that things had changed around. Monday is full dress day and Wednesday is lingerie. For the moment anyway!

I've never attended a full dress day. Didn't know there was such a thing. I'm tempted to give it a try sometime. Just for something new.

[Exodus8]

The girls told me that things had changed around. Monday is full dress day and Wednesday is lingerie. For the moment anyway!

I've never attended a full dress day. Didn't know there was such a thing. I'm tempted to give it a try sometime. Just for something new.Thanks for the great report!

Full clothing is interesting as it gives you the feel of picking up a girl at a bar but ofcourse its much easier as the roles kinda reversed at FKK, hehe.

Wud luv to have bikini days at the pool in the summer.

[Frozty]

I returned to Paradise today. To my surprise, the place was even quieter than yesterday. It started to get busy after 6 pm, but the girls were still not happy. A bad ratio from their point of view.

Two sessions today. First was Katina from Romania. Very small and cute girl. She is just two months in the business. We had a good session, but I think only because I took her for two hours. All sorts of good service starts to appear when I ask for a long session. More and more I hear complaints about having to give everything for 50 e. I enjoyed th e session, and would repeat, but be warned if you just want a 30 minute basic session.

My final session was with Tina, who I had roomed with the previous day. Another excellent session, this time for 90 minutes. She is a beautiful girl, but is carrying some extra weight. That would normally put me off, but she is very sexy, and great fun. She likes to tease a little, which I enjoyed. Wonderful skin, and amazing service. Highly recommended.

I will definitely return to Paradise, and will probably give Sakura a try next visit.

[Frozty]

I am sat in the departure lounge at Stuttgart airport, with time for a few last comments on my visit to Paradise.

I like the club a lot. The main negative for me is the fact that there are fewer girls than my usual destinations. This was more than offset by the very high level of service that I received. The second negative was the lack of a good outside space. I love Sharks in the Summer. Nothing beats girl watching outside on a sunny day.

I like slim, natural girls. On both days that I visited Paradise there were probably 6 or 8 girls who would work for me. I went 'off piste' a couple of times with less slim girls, and both worked out well. One was great.

I would say that the girls are very honest. We agreed what I wanted at the start of the session and all was provided as promised. This is very important for me as nothing kills my mood quicker than a debate about service. There were a few gentle attempts to upsell, but no was always accepted.

The other upside for the club is that travel is so easy. It took me less than 15 minutes to get from the Ibis to the airport, including a 7 minute wait for the S Bahn. I spend a lot of time travelling when I visit Berlin and Frankfurt.

I regret not visiting Sakura as I like a new experience. But that is something to look forward to.

Finally, another mention for Tina. She is a great girl giving great service. I think that it is important to her that she gives good service. She commits fully to the session, responds well to your attention on her, and gives lots of eye contact. I would visit the club again just for her.

[Sebastiane]

Thanks for the reports Frozty. I agree, Paradise is turning into an excellent club. One of my favourites. On weekends the number of girls can get to around 50 which isn't bad -- a lot of them a very good looking with great bodies too. Please describe this Tina in more detail so next time I go I can identify her!

[Frozty]

Apologies. That was from my post in early Dec. The girls told me that it was the first week they had changed it. I'm not big on Dessous either so I was a bit pissed off. I guess they've changed it back again. Think I might ring ahead next time to avoid disappointment.

CK.CK, it occurred to me that I should actually thank you. Given that she could do with losing a few kilos, I doubt that I would have selected Tina were it not for her hiding in lingerie. So, thanks!

[Frozty]

Please describe this Tina in more detail so next time I go I can identify her!I'll do my best! Very long, silvery blonde hair. She had arranged it with a high fringe at the front, possibly because she is only around 162 cm. Be cup breasts, that look a little small for her slightly heavy frame. A vertical tattoo high up on her back. I couldn't make out what it was! She is always smiling. I guess her age at 23 - 25 years. She usually sits just inside the main lounge area, with the dining room behind her. Seems to be good friends with Erica, a slim, dark haired girl.

She was wearing something white yesterday, although I can't quite remember what. She had white lingerie on Wednesday, so I guess she usually wears white!

[PussyLiccker]

My first FKK experience was at Paradise matter a fact. I've done the two main Laufhaus around that area, and found something called an FKK online. Said buffet served all day and naked girls around for an entrance fee. Usually the Paradise/Palace chain are higher on the entrance fee compared to others, but I tried it since I could stay there whole day, eat and look at girls. I figured it would be a strip club or better. I can remember the first FKK girl. She came by and asked if I wanted to sit somewhere. Sat with her on a couch, and next thing you know, she opens my robe, and she fucking blows me without a condom. I was like WTF. I was probably on the brink of CIM, but luckly she said we should get a room. The journey started from there. Hah. Curious if shit like that still happens there, girl performing BBBJ on the couch during the day. That was years ago.

One memorable experience was when I was quite drunk one night, and walking around the couches on the big main lounge a girl grabs my hand, pulls me to the couch and kisses me like crazy. Looking back, that was pretty unique experience. Same happened at Sakura, but I can't remember the girl from Paradise as I was drunk even though I tried looking for her my next visit.

From an outsider perspective, FKK was such a radical concept. Buffet, beer, girls at a wellness club? How great it is that German culture has it's uniqueness to give birth to such a concept. I think it's very much an ideal brothel system.

[Frozty]

Today I returned to Paradise to check if last month's first trip was lucky, or if I should keep the club on my roster.

The flight from Gatwick only had 27 passengers so I wonder how long easyjet will keep the route open. I checked in at the Ibis at around 11 am and caught up with some work before heading to the club at midday.

The club was still quiet, but that was no problem as I planned to stay all day. The outdoor space was closed for some reason, which was a shame given the pleasant weather. I took a quick walk round the lounge and was surprised to see Amina (long time resident at Artemis) perched at the bar. I went over for a chat and she said that she had been at the club for about three weeks. Sounds like she is at Paradise to stay. She tried to take me to the room, but I reminded her again that it didn't work out too well last time. She asked why, but I just shrugged and wished her well. She was very friendly so maybe she will try and improve her service.

First punt was Sasha from Hungary. She only works a few days at a time. We had an hour, and it was a nice session. Not one to repeat for me.

Second was Lorelei from Romania. She's is carrying just a few extra kilos but I liked her look. Amazing natural breasts, and a sparkling personality. She had me laughing out loud many times. The sex was also great and I hope to see her again. We really hit it off. One hour ending with CIM.

Final session was with Laura, who I had met last trip. She remembered me, and my preferences, and delivered a great session. 90 minutes including an excellent sensual massage. I hadn't expected to come for a third time so soon, but she had no trouble getting me off.

I relaxed for a while and chatted to a few other girls. The lineup really impressed me. I'd estimate another ten or 12 girls that I would happily have taken. Lots of slim, pretty and natural girls. I was again struck by how friendly they all were.

The food for dinner didn't look great so I decided to leave the club and head for a restaurant. As I wandered towards the town centre I had another idea. I decided to check out Sakura, which I will report on in that forum.

Overall, another very successful visit to Paradise. I like this club a lot. I just wish it had a better outside space. So easy to get to, and a great lineup of friendly, sexy girls.

[KaizenChaos]

Well this is my first post and apologise in advance if this isn't the place to write or ask a few questions. Having been a couple of times to FKK's in Stuttgart and Berlin (a while back) - I love them. Wondered though re: stuttgart what time it stays open until? Thinking of taking a trip out there early afternoon for the night and coming back into work for 10! - but not sure if need to book hotel close by or not if it shuts early. Was thinking of Thursday's? Are there better clubs in Germany than Paradise? Interested to get feedback. Am going to trawl through this site but appreciate any advice.

Thanks,

KC

[Frozty]

Well this is my first post and apologise in advance if this isn't the place to write or ask a few questions. Having been a couple of times to FKK's in Stuttgart and Berlin (a while back) - I love them. Wondered though re: stuttgart what time it stays open until? Thinking of taking a trip out there early afternoon for the night and coming back into work for 10! - but not sure if need to book hotel close by or not if it shuts early. Was thinking of Thursday's? Are there better clubs in Germany than Paradise? Interested to get feedback. Am going to trawl through this site but appreciate any advice.

Thanks,

KCParadise is a very good club, but I am sure that it is not the best in Germany. Nobody can tell you the best club; only their favourite. I would still pick Artemis, but it depends what you are looking for, and where you are. I have not been to a bad club yet, although rank Oase as my least favourite. Many think it the best. I suppose the quality of the lineup is most important. Paradise has a good lineup, but much smaller than Artemis and some of the Hessen clubs. It has a friendly, relaxed vibe. It feels like the girls are less likely to take advantage of someone relatively inexperienced.

I'm sure that the Paradise website will give you opening times. Last week, on a Thursday, one of the girls told me that she was working until 3 am.

As for sleeping in the club, it's not something that I would do. I can sleep almost anywhere, but FKK is not really set up for sleeping! When it gets late, the music gets loud. Oase has a good relax room with long reclined chairs, Sakura has a room of beds in the wellness area where you are unlikely to be bothered. Most clubs have somewhere to hide away. I would always take a hotel and there are always cheap places to stay in Germany. At Paradise, Ibis is less than 10 minutes walk and no more than 60 e for the night. There are pensions for less money, but I'd rather pay a little more and know what I was going to get.

[Cherry Cherry]

I visited Paradise last Sunday.

The club is very beautiful and clean.

The weak point are the girls: 95% of them are Romanian, most of them very rude, uneducated and very pushy to go to the rooms.

I think the administration should attract other nationalities and diversify a bit the female guests as this strong majority of Romanians does not create a good dynamic within the club.

[Frozty]

I visited Paradise last Sunday.

The club is very beautiful and clean.

The weak point are the girls: 95% of them are Romanian, most of them very rude, uneducated and very pushy to go to the rooms.

I think the administration should attract other nationalities and diversify a bit the female guests as this strong majority of Romanians does not create a good dynamic within the club.Good to see another report on the club, I thought it was just me! It seems that I had better luck with the girls there.

[Banana Boi]

The weak point are the girls: 95% of them are Romanian,Welcome to Germania.

[Sirioja]

I visited Paradise last Sunday.

The club is very beautiful and clean.

The weak point are the girls: 95% of them are Romanian, most of them very rude, uneducated and very pushy to go to the rooms.

I think the administration should attract other nationalities and diversify a bit the female guests as this strong majority of Romanians does not create a good dynamic within the club.Romanian girls are not all very rude, uneducated and very pushy for room, there are also very friendly classy and sensual Romanian women.

[Hessen Bub]

I think the administration should attract other nationalities and diversify a bit the female guests as this strong majority of Romanians does not create a good dynamic within the club.Maybe you come up with an idea how to attract other nationalities to German clubs at the current price structure. Good luck. If you succeed, share with the community and all the other club's managers.

HB.

[Sirioja]

Maybe you come up with an idea how to attract other nationalities to German clubs at the current price structure. Good luck. If you succeed, share with the community and all the other club's managers.

HB.Can also find German, Latvian, Italian for Caucasian type girls in FKK.

[Sebastiane]

After a relatively long, for me, hiatus I went back to FKK Paradise. I got there around early afternoon and left after 1.30 am. Nothing has changed since my last visit except that for a Saturday night it was surprisingly quiet and, to be perfectly honest, the atmosphere was a little dull. I didn't see many new girls either other than the ones I'd seen and I've either been with all the ones I wanted to go, or done repeats, or, and this was the first time its happened to me in my FKK adventures, a group of three Romanian girls --two of whom I've been with before and wrote reports for on here were very rude to me when I asked if they would like to go to a room! I was a bit surprised because the times in the rooms had been excellent especially with the one who I'd gone with the last time at the Party. I was really looking forward to going with her until she deliberately ignored me a couple of times and then when I decided to approach her and ask she said no I don't want to go before I'd literally said anything!! I know girls have the right to go with whom they want but the behaviour was strange and unexpected and rude and I got a bit annoyed and it almost ruined my day until I rationalised it to myself. It was especially galling to then see all three looking at me and giggling. Anyway, that's life.

Overall the night turned out excellent! I went with 5 girls whose names and ratings are below (face / body / performance / personality).

Mara. Romanian- light brown straight hair to shoulder length, about 1.65 metres. She was the most stunning girl I saw there today and a pity I didn't go with her earlier when I was still fresh. Gorgeous face, wonderfully slender body, very quiet and rather shy girl for this profession. She was the highlight of the day in terms of looks for sure. I was about to leave when I spotted her and I was like, 'fuck my plans I got to fuck this gorgeous girl!' Spent only 30 minutes though as I was too spent. Still, apart from not kissing at all, she gave a decent session and a fantastic BJ and fucking. Will definitely try to see her again as she is too beautiful. (10/9/7/9). Repeat: Yes. (100 euros due to an extra).

Eria. Stunningly beautiful dark haired Romanian girl with whom I'd gone last time. Gave her a little massage on the sofa before heading to room. I wanted to go for an hour but was so horny I came after 25 minutes inside her and then didn't want to extend but wish I had. She is very hot! And sweet. See last report for full description. One of my faves. (9. 5/9/9/9). 50.

Oli. Polish. Early twenties. Blonde haired girl, around 172 odd. Curvy body. Brown eyes. Very nice personality. Tattoos on upper arms. Face was pretty. Body would be a normal girl next door's body. A black girl's ass on a white girls body!

Spent an hour with her and we did everything. Very good session. Pity she only kisses for 100/ half-hour. Haven't fucked in so many positions for ages! Was exhausted after that session. Second pop of the day that was. 8/6/8/9. Sweet and friendly girl. 9/8/8/9). 200.

Adrianello (or something like that). Ukrainian girl. About 160. Rather petite blonde haired girl. Very friendly. Average looks but very nasty in the bedroom! Willing to do almost anything! (Except giving rim jobs to guys!

Good hour long session! 6/7/9/9. 100.

Cameron / Sunita. Another Pole. Around early 20's. Blonde. Round face. Very sweet. Good session but by now was only able to pop via hand job as she sat on my face with her perfect derriere! 8/8/8/9. 100.

Altogether I did fuck some nice girls but the atmosphere of Paradise was not great today! Seeing Mara and Erian saved the day for me! Especially Mara who is so stunning!

Total spend: 79 entry plus 50 + 200 + 100 + 100 + 100.

I think I am going to try Sakura again next time as its been a while and I think I need a change of scenery.

Am totally exhausted as I type this!

[Sebastiane]

My previous report written just after my visit seems to have been lost in the ether. So here is another one! I visited Paradise yesterday and, though I managed to find 5 girls to session with, including two 9's, the overall atmosphere was not as vibrant as I expected on a Saturday. I stayed practically the whole day. One noticeable thing was the attitudes of quite a few of the girls seem to have got distinctively sharkier. A few Bulgarians or romanians who I have been with before were very rude for some reason which almost ruined my stay but I decided to stay on and glad I did.

Anyway I went with:

Eria Romanian (9 for looks) - excellent session as always. Came inside her after 25 minutes during missionary. I was a bit disappointed with myself as she's my current favourite girl and I should have gone longer with her for at least an hour or two.

Oli Polish (8) - first time I've seen her there. Blonde. Very sweet and friendly girl from Hamburg.

Andreallo (Ukrainean (7) - A very sexually open-minded girl who is open to almost anything in the bedroom. Very erotic.

Cameron / Sunita (7) Polish. Another very blonde girl from Poland. Met her near the end of the night.

Mara Romanian (9) - first time I've seen this gorgeous and sweet girl. Formerly from Magnum. The most beautiful girl there for my money with the possible exception of Eria but Mara has more of a model look. Light brown straight hair. About 165 cm. Very slender model-like figure and oval face. Gorgeous eyes. Reminded me of Twiggy! Very soft spoken girl. Skin like soft silk. Man I had already popped 4 times but had to go with her just for the honour of having sex with such a girl. She made me hard again but I wasn't able to come for the fifth time! Great girl. Only downside is she won't kiss.

Total spend was over 600 euros including entrance.

Next time I think I will phone beforehand to check if certain girls are working. Spoke with some German mongerers who were recommending Sakura so might go over there next time.

[BigBangLover]

Hi Sybarite,

Thanks for your detailed description of Paradise, at the moment.

It seems there some beautiful girls or even Modellike Girls, especially the polish and Ukrainian girl, that you mentioned.

I'm planning to visit this club for a long time.

Not so easy, because I'm from Hessen and my most frequently visited clubs are Oase and Sharks.

But for one girl, I would take the 3 hours journey, immediately.

Elis (Alice) , Romanian.

Model type, 23 years, 175 cm, Slim Body KF32/34, blond short hairs, flat chested attractive facially with great nice eyes, flat chested A-cups.

(Just WOW, One of the most beautiful girl I had in P6).

She worked for a while in FKK Sharks last year from July to December and then returned back to Paradise in January this year.

Since then, I didn't hear anything from her.

Seems that she changes the clubs often or even left the FKK business here in Germany.

Would be wonderful to meet her again.

Thanks for any idea or information about her in advance.

Greetings.

BBL

[Sebastiane]

I agree Ellis / Alice is a pretty girl with an attractive face and a fantastic service. I went with her at Paradise in the beginning of February but haven't seen her since. (See my report from 01/ Feb /2015) She gave an incredible blowjob and sat on my face and. I would love to see her again but haven't seen her at Paradise since then. I've only been back twice since then but not spotted her nor seen her on the website of girls working (though that isn't always 100% reliable).

I think your best bet is to call and ask if Ellis / Alice is working. Good luck!

[Talon]

I've been to this place twice now, on Tuesday and Thursday. This report will be about Thursday, as it's freshest in my mind.

I arrived shortly after they opened at 11 am as I had nothing to do all day. As I expected it was fairly quiet--I only saw 6-7 girls and equally as many punters. More girls would trickle in at 2 pm, and by 4 pm there were around 15. The place really began to pick up by 8 pm, so if you want variety you'd best wait for the night crew.

I ended up going with 4 girls by the time I left at midnight (names are an approximation):

Annie, slender German girl, real be-sized breasts, said she was from Frankfurt. Her only clothing was a striped scarf, which I thought was cute. Took her and all subsequent girls to the room for an hour (I take awhile to cum, the unfortunate consequence of being circumcised). Like every girl I had she tried to upsell for CIM and anal; I refused. She did at least kiss for free. Went through all the positions: missionary, cowgirl, doggie. Finished with a BBJ and a HJ. 100 euros total. Good experience, would repeat.

Erica, Hungarian, same body type as Annie, she laid beside me while I was on one of those hanging couches and began nibbling my neck. Seemed like a good candidate for a GFE, and I was correct. Same routine as with Annie, spent 100.

Kylea, Italian, 30 years old but doesn't look it, slender body but absolutely gorgeous real the-sized breasts. Super fun to play with too! As a breast man I had to have her. Only downside is she wouldn't kiss on the mouth, and wouldn't let me fuck her tits for long ("I don't like" she'd say--which I thought was odd, as it's not like girls really feel anything from the act, at least in my experience). Still, she let me do everything else with her boobs, and I enjoyed sucking and fondling them while she rode me. She seemed to mellow some when I did DATY. I finished with a BBJ+CIM. Cost 150, well worth it.

"Area" (Erea? 24-year-old Romanian, another slender girl with be cups, has a tattoo of 3 paw prints above her vajayjay. Wasn't sure if I can cum again, but I did have her on Tuesday and was pleased with out session. One of the few that gave a GFE without demanding extra. Tried all the positions, then switched to a BBJ for 10 minutes. I was afraid I wouldn't be able to cum and that she'd just get frustrated, but Erea was patient and understanding. Finally managed a 4th pop after a long HJ. Cost 100, again would repeat. Show your support for girls who don't upsell GFE!

That was my last day in Stuttgart and I took a train to Frankfurt to revisit the FKKs there.

[Sebastiane]

Great report!

Erea is one of my favorites at Paradise -- probably the favorite. I think I've been with Erica too but not 100% sure.

[BilyBob]

Hi,

I will be in Stuttgart and visiting Paradise Wed as a first timer. I can't wait to see it for myself! The forum reads well!

Any words of advice regarding ladies, not getting ripped off, how much are alcoholic drinks, the area at night?

Anything really.

[Sirioja]

Hi,

I will be in Stuttgart and visiting Paradise Wed as a first timer. I can't wait to see it for myself! The forum reads well!

Any words of advice regarding ladies, not getting ripped off, how much are alcoholic drinks, the area at night?

Anything really.Speak with girls before room, ask if what you like is Ok for her, extra? Enjoy.

[YRoma]

Hi fellas,

Has anyone been to Paradise after mid-June? Last time I saw Eria (or Erea, Area) she said she will probably leave Paradise after June 8th and I was wondering this is really the case. It will be a shame if cannot see her again;.

[YRoma]

Great report!

Erea is one of my favorites at Paradise -- probably the favorite. I think I've been with Erica too but not 100% sure.Has anyone been to Paradise recently after mid-June? Last time I saw Erea she said she will probably leave Paradise by June 8th and I was wondering if it is really the case. It will be a shame if cannot see her again.

[Porsche5]

Hello friends,

I visited Paradise on 20 June and I have to say I had the best experience if I compare my visit to Oase and Sharks.

This place is more cleaner and the atmosphere is much better than the other. The food was not as good as Oase but it was alright.

I got in around 12 AM and went to the bar. Next to me was Kylie (hope its the right name) Italian, 30 years old brunette sitting with a Hat on. By her looks and body she looks 24 or 25 years old. She has got amazing body, perky boobs and tight ass. I talked to her and she asked for 150 Euros for 1 hour which included BBBJ, GFE, kissing on the boobs / body and protected sex. I said to her that I may go with her. Then after looking around the place I saw that there were not many girls present, probably they were busy with other men. Suddenly then Jessica (the name she told me) a blonde with sensual brown eyes caught my eye. She was wearing glasses and had short blonde hair. She also said that she was italian as well and friend with Kylie. She had the perfect body probably 34 c-26-34. Her body was smooth and had the right curves for me. She was not friendly in the start probably she was skeptical on me as I am Brown guy. Then finally I cracked the deal with her, 150 Euros for 1 hour GFE, BBBJ, sex. She was great in bed. Though she was very talkative and wanted me to give her a massage which I didn't like at the end but still experience was good. She has a beautiful face.

After taking 1 hour rest and eating I approached Kylie who was kind of angry or just pretending as I went with her friend rather than her. Anyway I took her and banged her. Her ass is like tight water melons and boobs like juicy mangoes. The only problem with her was that she has too much body lotion on her body which I could feel on touching her or squeezing her boobs.

Going with both the Girls was great.

I miss Germany.

[Hessen Bub]

This place is more cleaner and the atmosphere is much better than the other. The food was not as good as Oase but it was alright.Funny. I rate the other way round: Food much better than Oase (Oase has the worst food of all big clubs). Atmosphere, line up, service much worse than Sharks or Oase. I visited this week, line up and atmosphere were bad.

Did the girls DFK? Guess no.

Paradise has a website with all girls currently working, so if you are looking for a particular girl, check it.

HB.

[Dutedrac]

Hello friends,
I visited Paradise on 20 June and I have to say I had the best experience if I compare my visit to Oase and Sharks.
This place is more cleaner and the atmosphere is much better than the other. The food was not as good as Oase but it was alright.Hello friend,

Did you cum in the girls mouth? Looks like you was scammed 2 times by 2 romanian (in FKK italian means romanian) sharks, price for 1 hour (GFE or not) in Paradise is 100 e, most common extras are CIM 50 e and anal 100 e. Makes me wonder how bad your experience in Oase and Sharks has been.

Paradise is a very nice club for indoor facilities, but summertime is for sure not the best time to visit.

[Hessen Bub]

On Paradise HP you don't find one girl from Romania. The of course 90% are. Stupid.

HB.

[Porsche5]

Hello friend, did you cum in the girls mouth? Looks like you was scammed 2 times by 2 romanian (in FKK italian means romanian) sharks, price for 1 hour (GFE or not) in Paradise is 100 e, most common extras are CIM 50 e and anal 100 e. Makes me wonder how bad your experience in Oase and Sharks has been.

Paradise is a very nice club for indoor facilities, but summertime is for sure not the best time to visit.Being a rookie I was scammed by the blonde. The brunette did CIM however I didn't try CIM with the blonde one. Both the girls did DFK and were great at sucking the cock and the balls.

Luckily at sharks and Oase I paid 100 euros for 1 hour for full service.

[Sirioja]

Hello friends,

I visited Paradise on 20 June and I have to say I had the best experience if I compare my visit to Oase and Sharks.

This place is more cleaner and the atmosphere is much better than the other. The food was not as good as Oase but it was alright.

I miss Germany.Even Paradise can't compete with Sakura for foods, Oase is the worst FKK for foods at 5 pm, it improves later in the evening.

[Sirioja]

Hello friend,

In FKK italian means RomanianTrue, except for granny Sylvana, Donatella Versace sister, best BJ performer all over the World among frog mouth, not my World, she said written on internet.

[Sirioja]

Being a rookie I was scammed by the blonde. The brunette did CIM however I didn't try CIM with the blonde one. Both the girls did DFK and were great at sucking the cock and the balls.

Luckily at sharks and Oase I paid 100 euros for 1 hour for full service.What do you mean for full service for 100 for 1 hour? DFK? CIM included? At Oase and Sharks.

[Furlaubing]

Just my 2 cents after a half dozen visits to Paradise over the past three years. Though I did enjoy two decent sessions, overall I experienced average to pretty girls with poor attitudes and endless up-selling.

Typically, an interaction would begin with the girl attempting to coerce me into taking her and her friend to a room, usually a bad idea. Once, in a moment of weakness and after prolonged urging and assurances of incredible pleasure, I agreed. The whole situation fell apart once in the room.

"You should pay us extra for a lesbian show".

"Oh we don't french kiss, you should have asked us that before".

"Buy us some champagne".

OK, sure I should have known better and was more careful on successive visits. Even so, I eventually grew tired and wary of the sharky ways of the girls that I both encountered and engaged with.

On my last visit, which will remain my last, I scouted around for 3 hours until 1:30 am. Then frustrated and horny, I rushed to Sakura, paid another entry fee and enjoyed 2 sessions just before closing. That saved the night from complete disappointment.

However, I will say that they have some of the best food around and my visits were all during summer months.

[Porsche5]

What do you mean for full service for 100 for 1 hour? DFK? CIM included? At Oase and Sharks.Full service for me means DFK, protected sex, GFE, kissing on the Body / boobs / neck wherever I want and wherever I want her to kiss me, BBBJ, I didn't ask for CIM (at Oase a girl was trying sell me 50 euros extra for CIM).

At Oase I had food around 2 AM and it was good. I shared a pizza with a friend of mine and it was great (worth 10 Euros).

[PussyLiccker]

I don't know about what is really "full service," but 100 for 1 HR the correct rate in those clubs. CIM is an extra like Anal, and girls will try to sell it since it's extra money. BBBJ is standard, and some girls will do body kissing as their program. Some will brush their tits on your body or something else. Depending on the style of the girl. Kissing on the body, tit's or whatnot are pretty standard like multiple positions. DATY is common too. Personally, I get a warning sign if GFE is offered in the negotiation. GFE is just an experience that the girl provides, and doesn't have much illusion if it's negotiated IMO. It comes off a bit professional. Although, negotiating prevents unexpected surprises. Negotiating is something I do if the club has lots of sharky girls or it's the type of club for it.

At minimum a new punter should get familiar with the prices, and carry a watch. Germany pricing is probably the most straightforward there is. It's not like some places, where you have to negotiate a price for a package, which I think Porsche is thinking. It's not easy to get ripped off since the pricing is standarized. Which is a good thing to make things simple for punters. Typically, the front desk will ask if the punter is new, and give a breakdown of the rate and extras.

[Porsche5]

I don't know about what is really "full service," but 100 for 1 HR the correct rate in those clubs. CIM is an extra like Anal, and girls will try to sell it since it's extra money. BBBJ is standard, and some girls will do body kissing as their program. Some will brush their tits on your body or something else. Depending on the style of the girl. Kissing on the body, tit's or whatnot are pretty standard like multiple positions. DATY is common too. Personally, I get a warning sign if GFE is offered in the negotiation. GFE is just an experience that the girl provides, and doesn't have much illusion if it's negotiated IMO. It comes off a bit professional. Although, negotiating prevents unexpected surprises. Negotiating is something I do if the club has lots of sharky girls or it's the type of club for it.

At minimum a new punter should get familiar with the prices, and carry a watch. Germany pricing is probably the most straightforward there is. It's not like some places, where you have to negotiate a price for a package, which I think Porsche is thinking. It's not easy to get ripped off since the pricing is standarized. Which is a good thing to make things simple for punters. Typically, the front desk will ask if the punter is new, and give a breakdown of the rate and extras.Being a brown guy and going to FKK clubs for the first time I got a bit carried away so paid the blonde (with glasses) and a brunette at Paradise 150 Euros. However at Sharks and Oase it 100 for 1 hour as rightly stated by you and others. Lesson learned by paying extra as I liked that Blonde which was super hot for me. I got carried away as I can't find a girl like that in my country even for 500 euros. I remember she said her name Jessica (Short blonde Hair with glasses, sitting at the Bar and wearing a Hat). Are you aware of her and Is the name correct?

[FredZee]

Was in town to visit the Porsche Museum and decided to drop into Paradise in the afternoon for a visit and punch my ticket for Stuttgart. Initial impressions of the outside building are that it is a huge place given it is a four story building. Well, after going in there is the first floor and the a 2nd floor for rooms and the other floors are rooms for the girls and perhaps offices? Anyways, the atmosphere is definitely set my the Middle Eastern harem setting, which is ok. The thing that I really didn't like is that there is no outdoor aarea where you can relax and hang but in the summer, when I typically visit Germany, I have come to expect it as Oase and Sharks have nice areas. In Palace there is the Men's spa area but the girls circulate there there as well.

So, onto the LU, it was ok, nothing special. Having said that, it is vacation season in Germany so perhaps the LU was down since the customers are out of town. I would say that was the case here as there were probably around 20 girls max around and about 10 guys that afternoon. I ended up having a 30 min session with one girl, who's name I can't remember, but she as the hottest, IMHO, there, a sandy blond Romanian girl who was 23 I think. Very standard service.

I don't think I would return if I was in town. I can say I have been there and done that. I'll stick with the Hessen clubs.

[Dufey]

The thing that I really didn't like is that there is no outdoor aarea where you can relax and hang but in the summer, when I typically visit Germany, I have come to expect it as Oase and Sharks have nice areas. In Palace there is the Men's spa area but the girls circulate there there as well.

I'll stick with the Hessen clubs.There is a roof area where barbeque is served and there are beds and areas to lounge in the sun. You can also fuck on the roof in the sunshine. So Paradise also has this as does Artmeis in Berlin has on its roof. You just need to walk up some stairs from the first floor.

I try to explain this to other guys that want to visit Paradise in Stuttgart. Sometimes after you have seen the mega clubs in Frankfurt travelling some distance to just see one and only one more mega club in Stuttgart is sometimes not worth it unless you are in town for some other reason.

[Nedsprofhlp]

Part 1.

My first time there. Was done with business Friday afternoon, so moved out from city center to the Holiday Inn express, to be close to the airport. Honestly, it's impossible to stay closer to Paradise (unless they let you park an RV in their parking lot.) Takes about a minute to walk there. Got there about 5 pm. Payed the fee, and got set up, and then they set me up with Mara to show me around. After the tour I asked if she was free, and she said yes.

Mara is a blond Romanian with beautiful face and perfect model body, real see-cup tits, and speaks English very well. This girl could be a Playboy model, she looks that good. But I also knew I would likely be in for an opti-fuck experience. And I was right too. She tried to upsell for a 200 E hour. I asked what the extra 100 was for and said 50 for massage and 50 for a little kissing. I opted in for the second but said I didn't need a massage. Turned out to be very little kissing and only closed mouth, so I don't advise. (I always tell myself, never pay for kissing. If the girl charges extra for it, she doesn't really like to do it, and it will show later. But hope springs eternal. Only to be cut down by reality. LOL). Still, the sex was good. She has a perfect body and did a great BBBJ, even let me DATY for a while. And the sex was very good, several positions before I gave it up pumping that great ass in doggy.

I wasn't very long in the main area relaxing before I was accosted by a pair of German girls, Daniella and Jota. Daniella is a medium-sized blond, maybe a 6. Daniella is a bigger girl, long light brunette hair, maybe a 6 as well, but there something fun and playful about her that was appealing. While I was telling her that I was dead from last time and would not be ready for a while, she was stroking my manhood and proving me a liar. Well, what the hell? Having a real German girl is such a novelty in a German FKK, I thought I should just go with it. They wanted the threesome, but I declined. After playing with Daniella in the main area, we went up to the patio on the roof and played around on one of the beds up there. She is a good kisser (and doesn't charge extra!) and we just caressed and kissed and played in the sun, very relaxed. Eventually we went to a room to consummate things, but there was a minor disappointment -- although she has a bigger body, she has a tiny pussy, and I just could could not work it in, so had to make do with just a BBBJ. She actually prefers that and is pretty good at it, too. Although it was slightly toothy when she went fast, it was very nice when I asked her to slow down. But in the end I really wasn't up for it after all. Oh well, it was a fun hour, so I had no problem coughing up 100 E for the hour. (At my age, I don't always cum, especially at an FKK when I am seeing 4 or 5 girls -- and that's OK. As long as I'm having a good time, I don't care so much if my testicles manage to cough up the sperm when desired or not. Just happier that way.

Took some time after that to partake of the buffet and a beer, did the jacuzzi, hung out on the patio. (One of the few places where the girls don't bother you.) Once I felt recharged, hit the bar and talked to a few girls. The lineup was pretty good (6-9's) and the ratio of girls to punters was roughly 25 to 20. So the girls were hungry, and got lots of offers. Eventually was pulled in by Calin, a brunette Bulgarian wearing hot black lingerie. Another Playboy model type, very hot, sexy, and flirty. Knew it would be non-GFE optic fuck, but was up for it. She was actually very nice in the room, once I knew the limits (No kissing) but gave great slow BBBJ and the sex was good after, but I was having trouble keeping wood. (Maybe because third girl, first beer, full stomach, and poor AC.) so she started a really nice HJ with oil, which I let her do for a while, since it felt so good. And she made some sexy faces and noises while doing it. Kinda fake, but enjoyed it on a porno way. I stopped her because I knew if I popped it would be it for me that night and I wasn't ready to leave yet. Maybe it sounds weird, but I actually don't mind the opti-fuck experience, if I know that's what I'm in for. Paying 50 E to fuck a beautiful girl, even if non-GFE. I cannot get anything like that in the USA.

Took my time before selecting my last for the night. Looked around carefully. I had been observing the girls all night, and I had noticed this slim girl with long reddish hair and great legs, who had something about her. Very cute face, maybe not the hottest girl there, but she seemed sweet somehow. In that, my instincts were spot on, it turned out. I called her over and we started talking.

Pepita -- I had seen this one a few times that night and thought she was really cute. . Very nice face. Not a model, but GND pretty and model type body (small but well-formed tits). She is half Spanish and half Romanian, and speaks those languages as well as French and English. I also speak all these languages. Although not at all in the same order of proficiency. But we had a good time switching languages constantly -- she's a sharp girl! Had a good feeling pretty quickly, but this time I made clear what I wanted (yeah, seems like I have to learn that lesson every time.): I wanted to hang out outside on the patio upstairs before going to the room, but would pay for the full hour. She was up for it. (Actually I think she misunderstood me about the patio, because she headed for the room first. But once I explained again she got it and was OK with it.) Got into one on those bed-like things with curtains and got comfortable on towels. And then started one of the best FKK experiences I have ever had. We talked, we kissed (never DFK but nice sensual closed kisses), hands roamed, it was very sensual. Started kissing down her body and enjoyed her little tits and the nipples expanding in my mouth. Then headed further south. And thought, well why not? We closed the curtains some more and then I started a long DATY session, which drove her to the edge a few times, but I don't think ever went over. Then she had her revenge on me with an awesome BBBJ. The way she arranged herself gave me a great view of her pussy and legs, which are near perfect, by the way. I let her go for a while but then suited up and we started in mish. Then to side saddle and lazy dog. Then she went up on top for a while and worked some great CG magic. Went to doggy and pumped away and despite the awesome view and feel, I just could not get over the finish line. Time was nearly up, but I was not ready to say goodbye yet, so I extended it another half hour. Then some more awesome BBBJ which developed into an amazing 69 session. Then resulted and went straight to lazy dog, which I knew she liked and felt great. This time I was able to make it and exploded into the cup. We both just collapsed on the bed and talked, then I gave her a little massage. She was in no hurry to go, but time was up, so I reluctantly gathered up our stuff. That is a memory I will carry to the grave. Making love under the stars at midnight with a beautiful girl. It was the perfect end to the night.

Part 2.

Had some business to transact on Saturday, so got in a little later. There were a few more guys this time, but maybe a few more girls as well. I was coming in hot after thinking about it all day long, so I guess was in the exact right frame of mind when I ran in into the dynamic duo: Erica (Hungarian slim brunette) and Tina (Romanian, thicker blonde). They offered a wild threesome, and for once I was exactly in the right mood for it, so after some fun flirting and teasing, we headed to a room.

This was a porn fantasy. 150 E each for the sex, lesbian show and DFK. And they brought it all. I was worried it was all going to be hype, but they were true to their word. The sex was hot and they were pretty damned uninhibited in the room. Lots of laughs all around, was just pure wild sex and fun. I was doing one doggie while she was eating out her friend, and then we'd switch and I'd fuck the other one while I kissed the first one or sucked her tits. At one point they were both licking and sucking my cock, and that's a memory I will carry to the grave. (Another bucket list item checked off! LOL). Fucked each one twice and then gave it up while doing Erica doggie. She's got a nice little ass and she could take a pounding. Afterwards they spent a while giving me a HJ with oil, but despite their best efforts, they could not get second one out of me. It felt great though. I told them they were beating a dead horse. But the horse was enjoying it! Another laugh, and kisses all around. I had no problem paying 300 E for that. I don't often do the the threesome thing, because it is so often a disappointment, but this was worth every penny.

Pepita (encore) : I saw her again and asked if she would be interested in spending a couple of hours with me, and she was all for it. We talked some in the main area, and then we headed for the patio to play some, since things were getting a little hot. I did not plan to fuck there again. But you know how things just happen sometimes?. It was just an amazing time, slow, sensual lovemaking under the stars. Having two hours, we could really take as much time as we wanted. And we did. Won't go though the details, but it was even better than the night before. Afterwards we wrapped up in the sheets and just talked for a half hour, caressing and kissing. I swear, I could fall in love with this girl, if I'm not careful.

After that, I was done for the night. Back to the holiday inn and a little sleep before Lufthansa took me away from the land of Paradise.

[Hessen Bub]

Mara is a blond Romanian with beautiful face and perfect model body, real see-cup tits, and speaks English very well. This girl could be a Playboy model, she looks that good. But I also knew I would likely be in for an opti-fuck experience. And I was right too. She tried to upsell for a 200 E hour.Yes, very beautiful girl. I had a 50 EUR /30 min session with her, she doesn't kiss and paying her extra will get you what you got: Some light kissing, nothing else.

HB.

[Hessen Bub]

150 E each for the sex, lesbian show and DFK.This was for half an hour or full hour?

HB.

PS:

Pepita: http://redpager.de/girls/pepita-granada

Erika: http://redpager.de/girls/erika-horb

[Sebastiane]

Hi,

I just saw that according to red pager there are only 27 girls working in Paradise today (on a Saturday!) Is that true or a mistake and lots of girls are not listed? I was thinking of going again but not with so few girls?? Has anyone ever been on a Sunday? I might go tomorrow now. Is Maya / Mara (beautiful blonde Romanian) working these days? (I saw her 2 months ago?

[Free Dude]

Hi,

I just saw that according to red pager there are only 27 girls working in Paradise today (on a Saturday!) Is that true or a mistake and lots of girls are not listed? I was thinking of going again but not with so few girls?? Has anyone ever been on a Sunday? I might go tomorrow now. Is Maya / Mara (beautiful blonde Romanian) working these days? (I saw her 2 months ago?I've read on a different board (BW7 probably) that girls have to pay to be mentioned on these daily lists, which not all do. No idea if this is true though.

[Agee19]

Thanks guys for the great reporting. I will be in Stuttgart in 3 weeks and I have a great understanding of what goes on in Paradise, and a low down on some of the girls. But I do like to try other places. I know Sakura is one, are there any others? If so perhaps a link and a little about how it is different or similar to Paradise would be great.

[Sebastiane]

Or, Paradise in the Summer Holiday Season!

After a couple of months I went back to Paradise, choosing Friday as traditionally the weekend days are the most busy and fun. Friday night is billed as Party Night. I got there around the middle of the early afternoon. There were only a few girls when I arrived and even less guys. Later as the day progressed the number of girls increased to about 20-30 but that is much less than on most Fridays I am used to. What was really surprising was the very low number of men. The plus side was it left those men like me who were present able to have their pick of the girls (the standard of girls present was very high with some new stunners and some familiar faces. The quality is definitely there in terms of girls.) The other plus side was that those girls who, in the past, might not have wanted to session with a guy for whatever reason were today trying to get any guy they could! The downside was that a lot of the girls were bored and the atmosphere was quite dull (if being surrounded by gorgeous naked women can ever be thus -- but I mean compared to a 'normal' Friday. The food as usual was excellent. I saw a lot of girls I liked but obviously one cannot go with all of them! Something also worth noticing perhaps is that increasingly many girls are now only offering kissing if one books for an hour or as an extra if one does 30 minutes. Anyway, I did have fun. Expensive fun! -- but I think of these as my holidays as I prefer them to a normal holiday!

I went with 4 girls altogether and there were at least as many I wanted to go with but ran out of money having spent double what I had planned for!! Some of them I've been with before (see previous reports).

The girls:

(1) Ira (French / Romanian). 180 cm, mid-20's?, very tall without heels, dark hair. Face / body / performance (f / be / p) 7/9/8 . Time spent: Regular session with BJ, HJ, kissing. Jacked off to finish. Could not get it up for some reason! Nice DFK. On request after I had cum she licked up my cum. Cost. 170.

(2 and 3) Ani + Oly (Germ + Polish) brunette 175 cm and 170 cm now redhead. Went for a threesome for 1 hour which included NS, BJs, hand job finish (77/88 /88). Cost 300 + 20 tip for effort beyond call of duty! The craziest session of my life in terms of stuff we did. Not the best sex but good to try our any number of porn inspired fantasies!

(4) Highlight of the day. Mara (Romanian or Russian -- not sure!, 24 years old) 170 cm. Simply Stunning female. A real Model-like waif. 10/10/8 been with her before. Only does light pecking. No ass licking allowed either but she is *physically perfect* and having her riding you or her below you as you pound away really is paradisiacal. Mara also possesses a very sweet personality. 200 euros. Fucked in numerous positions. Jerk off finish (it was my fourth pop in not many hours! She is so fragile I was scared of breaking her! Silly of course but still. !

I would return simply for Mara every time although by the time I left after chilling in the jacuzzi and sauna I spotted and had to sadly say no to a whole number of stunners. My problem is if I stay longer the more I spend so I had to force myself to leave. According to the ladies once people return from holidays it will pick up again.

Overall a great holiday!! If any of you haven't yet been with Mara I'd recommend it while you can for all those who want to say they have fucked a girl who would easily be a model. She's so so beautiful although, as with optificks those who want her to do everything might be disappointed and some of you will say these up sells. Beauty was ever thus.

[TrueNature]

Or, Paradise in the Summer Holiday Season!

After a couple of months I went back to Paradise, choosing Friday as traditionally the weekend days are the most busy and fun. Friday night is billed as Party Night. I got there around the middle of the early afternoon. There were only a few girls when I arrived and even less guys. Later as the day progressed the number of girls increased to about 20-30 but that is much less than on most Fridays I am used to. What was really surprising was the very low number of men. The plus side was it left those men like me who were present able to have their pick of the girls (the standard of girls present was very high with some new stunners and some familiar faces. The quality is definitely there in terms of girls.) The other plus side was that those girls who, in the past, might not have wanted to session with a guy for whatever reason were today trying to get any guy they could! The downside was that a lot of the girls were bored and the atmosphere was quite dull (if being surrounded by gorgeous naked women can ever be thus -- but I mean compared to a 'normal' Friday. The food as usual was excellent. I saw a lot of girls I liked but obviously one cannot go with all of them! Something also worth noticing perhaps is that increasingly many girls are now only offering kissing if one books for an hour or as an extra if one does 30 minutes. Anyway, I did have fun. Expensive fun! -- but I think of these as my holidays as I prefer them to a normal holiday!

I went with 4 girls altogether and there were at least as many I wanted to go with but ran out of money having spent double what I had planned for!! Some of them I've been with before (see previous reports).

The girls:.Thanks a lot for this great report! You really make me want to go to paradise now, its onny way between palace (same owner I believe) and Globe in Zurich son perfect to do a pit stop. What do you think: girls of paradise as pretty as the one in Palace or Goldentime?

I would love to find a new good FKK to hang out.

I will go in October and on my list are palace shark Artemis globe, son I the love to add Paradise.

Thanks to answer me I would appreciate a lot.

[Frozty]

Thanks a lot for this great report! You really make me want to go to paradise now, its onny way between palace (same owner I believe) and Globe in Zurich son perfect to do a pit stop. What do you think: girls of paradise as pretty as the one in Palace or Goldentime?

I would love to find a new good FKK to hang out.

I will go in October and on my list are palace shark Artemis globe, son I the love to add Paradise.

Thanks to answer me I would appreciate a lot.I would recommend Paradise. The lineup (and service levels), food and facilities are good. The rooms are very good. Plenty of space in the lounge, and a good bar. The outdoor space is poor, but at least there is one. The atmosphere can be a bit quiet, but that's ok for me as I don't go for a party! I like my girls to kiss, and have had a lot of success with that at Paradise.

[Nedsprofhlp]

This was for half an hour or full hour?

HB.

PS:

Pepita: http://redpager.de/girls/pepita-granada

Erika: http://redpager.de/girls/erika-horbSorry, I should have said it was for an hour. (What -- did you think I could do all that in a half hour? LOL I'm not a machine!

And it was a full hour, they were not looking to leave early, like I was half expecting. I often find duos are just excuses for girls to do less and get paid the same. Was not really the case here. They were both working the full time, doing pretty much whatever I wanted. It was a nice change! That was why I did not mind the extra 50 each for the perks. I left very happy, and so did they.

P.S.: thanks for the red pager links!

[Delta Indigo]

Hello,

I wanted to ask you guys about the lineup in Paradise in Stuttgart. Is it overwhelmingly Romanian? It website does not have a section for the girls, but the lineup at FKK Sakura seems a to have a little bit of variety, with girls from other regions of Europe.

I was particularly wondering if there are some black girls in Paradise, I am planning a trip soon and I fancy having sex with some black girls for a change every now and then.

[Hessen Bub]

Hello,

I wanted to ask you guys about the lineup in Paradise in Stuttgart. Is it overwhelmingly Romanian? It website does not have a section for the girls,Mostly Romanian though the website lists a lot of Romanian girls as Spanish, Italian etc.

http://redpager.de/clubs/fkk-saunaclub-paradise-stuttgart

HB.

[Nille Copenhagen]

Hello,

I wanted to ask you guys about the lineup in Paradise in Stuttgart. Is it overwhelmingly Romanian? It website does not have a section for the girls, but the lineup at FKK Sakura seems a to have a little bit of variety, with girls from other regions of Europe.

I was particularly wondering if there are some black girls in Paradise, I am planning a trip soon and I fancy having sex with some black girls for a change every now and then.Why are you asking so much in almost all FKK threads, go see for yourself and report.

[Delta Indigo]

Why are you asking so much in almost all FKK threads, go see for yourself and report.If you have been noticing my threads, you will in fact notice that I am an active contributor who reports quite a lot. I don't know if this is one of those annoying moralistic outbursts, but to satisfy your curiosity, I am planning a trip to Germany during the next month a relatively long one.

I am choosing between basing myself in Dusseldorf, Cologne or Stuttgart. Either I will tour a bunch of NRW clubs, I prefer fully nude clubs and there are only a few in NRW, or I will go to Stuttgart and Augsburg on the way to Munich.

There are an awful lot of clubs and pros and cons in each area. So instead of just reporting and I have done plenty of that over the years, I am asking questions as well in order to determine the best course of action.

[Nille Copenhagen]

If you have been noticing my threads, you will in fact notice that I am an active contributor who reports quite a lot. I don't know if this is one of those annoying moralistic outbursts, but to satisfy your curiosity, I am planning a trip to Germany during the next month a relatively long one.

I am choosing between basing myself in Dusseldorf, Cologne or Stuttgart. Either I will tour a bunch of NRW clubs, I prefer fully nude clubs and there are only a few in NRW, or I will go to Stuttgart and Augsburg on the way to Munich.

There are an awful lot of clubs and pros and cons in each area. So instead of just reporting and I have done plenty of that over the years, I am asking questions as well in order to determine the best course of action.So have you found out what are the best clubs for you? Different people have different opinions. The LU change the girls change IMO- it's waste of time to plan, go to the popular clubs like Samya, GT, LR, Aca, Oase, World, sharks, Paradise.

Then you are good. I know you was at Aca, you liked to drink beer right, LOL. There is Oktoberfest next month.

[Delta Indigo]

I know you was at Aca, you liked to drink beer right, LOL. There is Oktoberfest next month.I have heard about you from a friend of yours at Aca, a danish friend of yours, but I have never met you. I only drink beer if the wine is horrible, at Aca I drink the red wine, it is okay. I really do not think I have ever met you, your friend did describe you to me.

I used to go to Aca a lot, I have stayed in Velbert 3 - 4 times and been to Aca every day, I used to think it was a super bargain before I got sick of the place.

[Sirioja]

Does anybody know Romanian girl, Emma with a little bit Chinese eyes, smiling, body with curves, 1,65 , at Paradise.

Thanks

[DingDingDong]

Planning to visit paradise. This would be the first time. So need some info. About how does it work and stuff.

So if I book a girl for an HR. Does it matter how many times I cum during the session?

Do the girls usually bother you with buying them drinks and stuff. What's the norm?

And most importantly. How well do these girls speak English. I have zero knowledge on German.

TIA

[Ruffeek]

Just saw your post while reading through posts in preparation for planning my own trip to a few FKKs in the last week of October!


Planning to visit paradise. This would be the first time. So need some info. About how does it work and stuff.Do you mean that this is your first time to ANY FKK or just your first time to Paradise. If you've been to other FKKs and this is your first visit to Paradise, then. Well, Paradise is not much different from the other FKKs. Things work usually the same across such places.


So if I book a girl for an HR. Does it matter how many times I cum during the session?The standard bookings are for 30 minutes. It can be extended to 1 hour. As a general rule, it's a one-cum session for 30 minutes. My suggestion is to stick to the 30 minutes -- if you like the girl a lot, you can always take her again. She might even appreciate you choosing her again after some time.


Do the girls usually bother you with buying them drinks and stuff. What's the norm?Usually, not. However, keep in mind that they are there to earn money in exchange for time and sex. So, if you really want to chat up a girl, offering her a drink might be sensible. For a slightly higher budget, sharing champagne with a gorgeous nude girl in the jacuzzi can be a hard-to-forget experience.


And most importantly. How well do these girls speak English. I have zero knowledge on German.English language ability varies. In general, most will speak enough to understand what you need.

Cheers, and enjoy yourself.

Are.

[DingDingDong]

Just saw your post while reading through posts in preparation for planning my own trip to a few FKKs in the last week of October!

Are.Thanks Ruffeek. Yes! The first time in FKK! So kinda excited! So I was reading up a lot on the this thread and others. And stratigizing it. Have a decent idea about how it works (reading other posts) . I was thinking about booking in for 30 minutes session and going on from there!! I am definitely taking your suggestion on the jacuzzi with a glass of champagne and a petite on my lap.

I'll keep posted!

[Sucker17]

Hi, I think this British report, with Norwegian subtitles would be of interest to you. It tells the story of the Paradise chain of brothels from a UK perspective:

http://www.vgtv.no/#!/video/118783/the-mega-brothel/1

[Pistons]

The docu is full of lies and half truths though:

Lie 1: That german girl there has never had 20 guys in 1 night. (On a very good night she might have had 6-8 tops).

Lie 2: Did the police convict anyone? Or just bring them in for questioning? Well, make a guess considering where the docu ended.

Lie 3: Did the german girl quit working there because she didn't like it, or because she didn't get any customers? (Ofcourse it was because of no customers. She didn't make ends meet with 110 euro entrance cost per night).

Lie 4: Did the German girl stop working there because she felt it was a derogatory work on the bottom of the society?

Answer: No, she even stated herself that she felt being a flip flopper at McDonalds was a lower end job.

[PussyLiccker]

The docu is full of lies and half truths though:

Lie 1: That german girl there has never had 20 guys in 1 night. (On a very good night she might have had 6-8 tops).
I've actually met a girl that told me she did 20+ in a span of a club stay. She bragged about making 1k+ on that day. Same club a girl complained she only made 600 Euros by like 10pm.

[Pistons]

Hardly at Paradise though. And if it happens, it would be at a very special occation, like a 4 year world cup final.

[Hessen Bub]

Happened to a girl I knew at Paradise a few year ago on December 24. She had more than 20 rooms from 6 pm to 3 am.

HB.

[XXL]

I usually stop over at this FKK at a late hour (10 pm) and my overall impression has been one of many girls not being able to provide optimal service because they have had a full day's work. One girl I picked this Thursday seemed willing enough but she had a sore pussy. I thought this was an attitude problem at Paradise Stuttgart but I realise it must be a common problem if you arrive late.

[PussyLiccker]

I usually stop over at this FKK at a late hour (10 pm) and my overall impression has been one of many girls not being able to provide optimal service because they have had a full day's work. One girl I picked this Thursday seemed willing enough but she had a sore pussy. I thought this was an attitude problem at Paradise Stuttgart but I realise it must be a common problem if you arrive late.No idea how common it is, but I had this happen once in the past close to club's closing time. A girl told me her pussy was sore and looked a bit distressed. The condom creates a bit of friction, and the lube helps out. That was the only time I've run into this though.

[McAdonis]

I usually stop over at this FKK at a late hour (10 pm) and my overall impression has been one of many girls not being able to provide optimal service because they have had a full day's work. One girl I picked this Thursday seemed willing enough but she had a sore pussy. I thought this was an attitude problem at Paradise Stuttgart but I realise it must be a common problem if you arrive late.Para doesn't have a good reputation for service. Seems to be consistent with other clubs that are convenient to an airport or Messe.

If she is on night shift, 10 pm is only a few hours into her shift. Like Syzygies likes to say some girls have small vaginas and some men are more endowed than others. But tired girl syndrome or sore pussy syndrome might also be a way for a girl to arouse sympathy from a customer. In other words, maximum financial gain for least amount of effort. The girl might even try to earn sympathy points and get a tip from an overly compassionate customer who is impressed by what a trooper she was given the "circumstances".

There are many Romanian providers that are honest, but as a whole you have to admire their ability to hustle. From telling white lies about their nationality to full on scamming a customer out of 30000 EUR. Please don't judge me as a "rude sex" customer who lacks compassion and jackhammers all WGs like they are a piece of meat. Because my response when a WG tells me she has a "sore pussy" varies on a case-to-case basis. For instance, when a regular who I've sessioned 20+ times tells me she has a "sore pussy", then of course I will believe her.

[Jerboa]

The docu is full of lies and half truths though:

Lie 1: That german girl there has never had 20 guys in 1 night. (On a very good night she might have had 6-8 tops).

Lie 2: Did the police convict anyone? Or just bring them in for questioning? Well, make a guess considering where the docu ended.

Lie 3: Did the german girl quit working there because she didn't like it, or because she didn't get any customers? (Ofcourse it was because of no customers. She didn't make ends meet with 110 euro entrance cost per night).

Lie 4: Did the German girl stop working there because she felt it was a derogatory work on the bottom of the society?

Answer: No, she even stated herself that she felt being a flip flopper at McDonalds was a lower end job.Yes 20 guys would be a dam good night for most girls, maybe she likes to exaggerate, anyone know if Josie is still at Paradise or moved clubs?

[Citizen Kane]

Lie 2: Did the police convict anyone? Or just bring them in for questioning? Well, make a guess considering where the docu ended.From memory I believe it said 800 officers used to arrest 5 people, with only one of them being charged.

Fine use of German taxpayers money.

[Jerboa]

Just saw your post while reading through posts in preparation for planning my own trip to a few FKKs in the last week of October!

Do you mean that this is your first time to ANY FKK or just your first time to Paradise. If you've been to other FKKs and this is your first visit to Paradise, then. Well, Paradise is not much different from the other FKKs. Things work usually the same across such places.

The standard bookings are for 30 minutes. It can be extended to 1 hour. As a general rule, it's a one-cum session for 30 minutes. My suggestion is to stick to the 30 minutes -- if you like the girl a lot, you can always take her again. She might even appreciate you choosing her again after some time.

Usually, not. However, keep in mind that they are there to earn money in exchange for time and sex. So, if you really want to chat up a girl, offering her a drink might be sensible. For a slightly higher budget, sharing champagne with a gorgeous nude girl in the jacuzzi can be a hard-to-forget experience.

English language ability varies. In general, most will speak enough to understand what you need.

Cheers, and enjoy yourself.

Are.Buying a girl a drink or champagne is for oh look at me I'm a player chumps IMO. It's as pointless as tits on a fish, you don't need to woo her, for €50 she'll fuck anyone, I don't go to a saunaclub to pretend to have a GF.

[Jerboa]

I visited Paradise last week, for the first time, got there about 5 pm paid my 79 at reception, club looks good, there were a few girls about already, but I grabbed something to eat first at the restaurant. Took my time to see what girls were available, some caught my eye, was approached by a German girl, not my type, she was chubby and average looks, nice enough girl, I didn't want to be rude, but she kept pestering me all night to go room, I dodged her and took a sauna.

Bumped into Carmalita, looked hot dark skinned, can't remember where she said she was from, obviously some part of Romania, I was ready for first session, so went to the room, rooms here are good, but the session with Carmalitta was rushed and she wanted to upsell, 50 for half hour isn't enough for her, in the end after she made it difficult to fuck her anymore, I got off the bed and got robe back on.

So took my time down in the lounge, had a drink and a loo around, I was sat in the tv lounge room, when a girl came in and sat next to me, she recognised me, first because of the low light I didn't recognise her, she said she'd met me in Berlin at Artemis, it was Iranian Amina, now calling herself Maria, surprise she did remember me, as we only met in the lounge at Artemis, and never sessioned, well I made sure to come find her later, and I did, had a good sweaty 30 minutes with her, she did ask if I wanted extras, but once I declined no problem, kissing and BBBJ was given. Maria IMO is very hot, lovely exotic middle eastern look, dark skin and waist length long jet black hair.

Took a break and then some dinner, which wasn't bad, had another sauna and a wander about, more girls had appeared, there was a tall busty blonde German girl at the bar, I went to have a chat with her, I forget her name, but I didn't think she had a good attitude, so excused myself.

Another German I'd met earlier that day was Lola, she is a tattooed brunette late 20's, with big fake tits, a biker chick, bumped into again in the lounge, so took her to a room, as soon as we started she went through her sale pitch, said the normal 50 was basic suck and fuck, she wanted me to agree to 100 30 min special package, I said no thanks I just want the normal service, so no kissing was on offer, and she tried to rush through the session, but I controlled the speed, which Lola didn't like, unfortunately for girls like her, I don't shoot my load in first 2 minutes, by the end of the session she wasn't a happy bunny.

So again relaxed some more, took another sauna and a snack, there were plenty of choice, a lot of pretty young Romanians, and some German girls, by about midnight I got talking to a Czech girl called Klarissa, nice busty blonde, had a friendly chat down on the couch, then off to a room, as soon as the door closed she said for 50 I don't do kissing or BBBJ, so I got up put my robe back on, and told her to forget it, these girls make me laugh, because it's the first time they've seen you at the club, they seem to assume you're a dumb tourist.

So I got changed and left, before filling out a feedback form, which I listed what I wasn't happy about, not sure it will do any good, was my first time at Paradise, but it seems just as sharky as Palace.

[PayForIt]

I visited Paradise last week, for the first time, got there about 5 pm paid my 79 at reception, club looks good, there were a few girls about already, but I grabbed something to eat first at the restaurant. Took my time to see what girls were available, some caught my eye, was approached by a German girl, not my type, she was chubby and average looks, nice enough girl, I didn't want to be rude, but she kept pestering me all night to go room, I dodged her and took a sauna.

Bumped into Carmalita, looked hot dark skinned, can't remember where she said she was from, obviously some part of Romania, I was ready for first session, so went to the room, rooms here are good, but the session with Carmalitta was rushed and she wanted to upsell, 50 for half hour isn't enough for her, in the end after she made it difficult to fuck her anymore, I got off the bed and got robe back on.

So took my time down in the lounge, had a drink and a loo around, I was sat in the tv lounge room, when a girl came in and sat next to me, she recognised me, first because of the low light I didn't recognise her, she said she'd met me in Berlin at Artemis, it was Iranian Amina, now calling herself Maria, surprise she did remember me, as we only met in the lounge at Artemis, and never sessioned, well I made sure to come find her later, and I did, had a good sweaty 30 minutes with her, she did ask if I wanted extras, but once I declined no problem, kissing and BBBJ was given. Maria IMO is very hot, lovely exotic middle eastern look, dark skin and waist length long jet black hair.

Took a break and then some dinner, which wasn't bad, had another sauna and a wander about, more girls had appeared, there was a tall busty blonde German girl at the bar, I went to have a chat with her, I forget her name, but I didn't think she had a good attitude, so excused myself.

Another German I'd met earlier that day was Lola, she is a tattooed brunette late 20's, with big fake tits, a biker chick, bumped into again in the lounge, so took her to a room, as soon as we started she went through her sale pitch, said the normal 50 was basic suck and fuck, she wanted me to agree to 100 30 min special package, I said no thanks I just want the normal service, so no kissing was on offer, and she tried to rush through the session, but I controlled the speed, which Lola didn't like, unfortunately for girls like her, I don't shoot my load in first 2 minutes, by the end of the session she wasn't a happy bunny.

So again relaxed some more, took another sauna and a snack, there were plenty of choice, a lot of pretty young Romanians, and some German girls, by about midnight I got talking to a Czech girl called Klarissa, nice busty blonde, had a friendly chat down on the couch, then off to a room, as soon as the door closed she said for 50 I don't do kissing or BBBJ, so I got up put my robe back on, and told her to forget it, these girls make me laugh, because it's the first time they've seen you at the club, they seem to assume you're a dumb tourist.

So I got changed and left, before filling out a feedback form, which I listed what I wasn't happy about, not sure it will do any good, was my first time at Paradise, but it seems just as sharky as Palace.Useful if disappointing report. Disappointing because I've been thinking of a trip here as it is one of the major German cities I've not been to at all and I would like to combine the Porsche tour with a trip to a nice club. But the shark-like behavior you experienced here is a real turn off. I know it happens in nearly all clubs (a lot in Palace and can happen quite a bit in Artemis) but sounds like everyone you sessioned with other than Maria was on upsell from moment you got in the room. Makes me think it might be better to stick to Frankfurt, Berlin, Cologne or Dusseldorf. They all have other options (not Berlin for FKK of course but I've never had a bad time in Artemis in 16 visits! I take it there are no other FKKs in Stuttgart? Sounds like club / rooms are good but the girls not so. Can you say approx how many girls were working by say 9 pm and overall your impression of the LU. Lot's of pretty girls who are slim or not? More like Artemis overall (sillies / tattoos / older) or Hessen clubs? Thanks.

[Sirioja]

Don't miss Porsche museum. Can try Sakura, high class club, but never tried a girl there. Excellent foods.

[Hessen Bub]

Since the Razzia a few months ago in all clubs belonging to the chain business at Paradise seems to be slow. It never was a club with high consistent service levels, but it is getting worse. I don't visit anymore, if I am in the area I'd rather skip Paradise and go back to Hessen. It's similar to Artemis and Palace re type of girls and service, as a regular you may get better service, first time visitors will have a difficult time.

There's Sakura in beöblingen, Safari in Fellbach and Phoenix in the city as alternatives.

HB.

[Jerboa]

Useful if disappointing report. Disappointing because I've been thinking of a trip here as it is one of the major German cities I've not been to at all and I would like to combine the Porsche tour with a trip to a nice club. But the shark-like behavior you experienced here is a real turn off. I know it happens in nearly all clubs (a lot in Palace and can happen quite a bit in Artemis) but sounds like everyone you sessioned with other than Maria was on upsell from moment you got in the room. Makes me think it might be better to stick to Frankfurt, Berlin, Cologne or Dusseldorf. They all have other options (not Berlin for FKK of course but I've never had a bad time in Artemis in 16 visits! I take it there are no other FKKs in Stuttgart? Sounds like club / rooms are good but the girls not so. Can you say approx how many girls were working by say 9 pm and overall your impression of the LU. Lot's of pretty girls who are slim or not? More like Artemis overall (sillies / tattoos / older) or Hessen clubs? Thanks.Maybe I was unlucky to pick the sharks, my taste in girls is mostly the hardcore hooker type with fake tits and tattoos, so sometimes these can be the most sharky, it just seemed like Palace Mk2 in the upsell and the I don't do much for 50 e, also a good clue is when I arrived at reception, the thekenfrau told me to talk to the ladies regarding prices, even when I asked her the rates were indeed 50 e-100 e. There was a large amount of girls there, many young looking Romanian types, and a strong German contingent, didn't see any Black or Latina girls.

[PussyLiccker]

Maybe I was unlucky to pick the sharks, my taste in girls is mostly the hardcore hooker type with fake tits and tattoos, so sometimes these can be the most sharky, it just seemed like Palace Mk2 in the upsell and the I don't do much for 50 e, also a good clue is when I arrived at reception, the thekenfrau told me to talk to the ladies regarding prices, even when I asked her the rates were indeed 50 e-100 e. There was a large amount of girls there, many young looking Romanian types, and a strong German contingent, didn't see any Black or Latina girls.I would imagine if your tastes are hardcore lookin hooker types, stats would be low. I'd expect you'd meet more PSE than GFE. I can't say I go for the hardcore looking types, but I determine based on instincts (attitude, presales, her face) because I've been with tatted up girls that were GFE. Others that were to less degree was hot enough I had to take them. Some tattoos look fine, like the colorful ones or ones that are not of bad taste. Too some degree we are conditioned to go for certain type of faces/looks. For me, at a subconscious level I know I pick certain girls with particular faces as a safe bet out of gut feeling.

It's true that some clubs, you'd find more sharkier girls, but it still depends on which girls you pick(hopefully your types are the good ones). Even in Palace I've been lucky with picks, but it's pretty rare to find a girl that meet what I'm looking for.

[Jim57]

Don't miss Porsche museum. Can try Sakura, high class club, but never tried a girl there. Excellent foods.Why go look at car bodies when you can go look at beautiful naked ladies?

[Sirioja]

Why go look at car bodies when you can go look at beautiful naked ladies?Porsche for flat 6 engine, when flat 6 was refreshed by air, better noise than girls moaning. With turbo, Adrenalin for King Kong blowing and pushing in your back.

[Vito Corleone]

Don't miss Porsche museum. Can try Sakura, high class club, but never tried a girl there. Excellent foods.I agree. I visit the Porsche museum 5-6 times a year!

[Jim57]

You'll not convince me. I'd far rather look at naked ladies than over priced cars designed for guys going through a mid life crisis!

[Sirioja]

You'll not convince me. I'd far rather look at naked ladies than over priced cars designed for guys going through a mid life crisis!Didn't even try, was meaning 911 don t lie, nor make fake simulated noises, those who tried Madi from April to end of 2014 will understand what I mean.

[Hessen Bub]

I agree. I visit the Porsche museum 5-6 times a year!I heard you bough an annual pass.

HB.

[Vito Corleone]

You'll not convince me. I'd far rather look at naked ladies than over priced cars designed for guys going through a mid life crisis!What's wrong with checking out some really nice luxury cars then banging hot babes later in the evening?

[JackHole]

What's wrong with checking out some really nice luxury cars then banging hot babes later in the evening?Vito. You're my HERO!

Seriously. Looking forward to getting to know the FKK clubs around Stuttgart. Cheers Mates! Be safe out there.

[JackHole]

Porsche for flat 6 engine, when flat 6 was refreshed by air, better noise than girls moaning. With turbo, Adrenalin for King Kong blowing and pushing in your back.Let's see. Sound of a Porsche flat 6 or girls moaning. . . . geesh. I'm getting hard either way. . . .

[JackHole]

You'll not convince me. I'd far rather look at naked ladies than over priced cars designed for guys going through a mid life crisis!Nekked ladies. Or over-priced cars. . . . once again, I'm getting hard either way. Then again. You don't have to 'maintain' a nekked lady. . .

[Trajdor]

Casting was very poor last night. Not that unexpected considering its Christmas week and there seemed to be lot more men than women.

One thing I saw which made me smile was seeing some old guy wearing a mask being led on a dog chain by about 5 women to a room. Who were carrying leather riding whips. I guess his Christmas came early!

[MisterMansPlan]

I'm will be in Stuttgart later this month, and I was wondering about the regular ticket vs. The direct ticket. The "Direct Ticket" is 50 euro less (the same cost as 30 minutes with a lady). The restrictions are that this ticket doesn't allow access to the wellness center, no drinks or buffet. Considering I'll be coming to Paradise from a restaurant, no food doesn't bother me and you have to pay for alcoholic drinks anyway. Personally, I don't like saunas, hammams, or jacuzzis; feel ill. So on the surface this ticket seems to fit well.

My question for those who have been to FKK Paradise Stuttgart is, are there lots of ladies in the wellness center? I don't really have an idea of how much space the wellness center takes. From the website, it seems that it's just the above-mentioned amenities, but I've never been. I really don't want to miss out on meeting the majority of the working ladies, or have them think I'm a cheapskate for opting out of paying for the wellness center.

Thanks for the advice, and I'll be back with a report before the end of the month!

[Abox79]

I'm will be in Stuttgart later this month, and I was wondering about the regular ticket vs. The direct ticket. The "Direct Ticket" is 50 euro less (the same cost as 30 minutes with a lady). The restrictions are that this ticket doesn't allow access to the wellness center, no drinks or buffet. Considering I'll be coming to Paradise from a restaurant, no food doesn't bother me and you have to pay for alcoholic drinks anyway. Personally, I don't like saunas, hammams, or jacuzzis; feel ill. So on the surface this ticket seems to fit well.

My question for those who have been to FKK Paradise Stuttgart is, are there lots of ladies in the wellness center? I don't really have an idea of how much space the wellness center takes. From the website, it seems that it's just the above-mentioned amenities, but I've never been. I really don't want to miss out on meeting the majority of the working ladies, or have them think I'm a cheapskate for opting out of paying for the wellness center.

Thanks for the advice, and I'll be back with a report before the end of the month!I can't recall ever seeing any ladies in any wellness area in clubs, and definitely not when I was in the club you mentioned. The girls tend not to go in these areas unless the club is configured in such a way that they can walk through on their hunt for 'prey'.

[XXL]

My question for those who have been to FKK Paradise Stuttgart is, are there lots of ladies in the wellness center? No ladies in the Wellness area. Paradise Stuttgart has one of the most limited wellness infrastructure of all FKKs (no outdoor terrace accessible from the wellness area). Small sauna anyway. They have some kind of "snow grotto" to cool down like you were outdoors on a cold winter day but it's cramped (and out of order part of the time).

The food is often quite good though, and the girls sit at the same table as clients.

[Hessen Bub]

Direct ticket gives you access to the room through the staircase. If you buy the full ticket you have access to the club, including bar, restaurant, sauna, steam bath, massage (extra) and porno cinema.

HB.

[Sebastiane]

So, after 6 months I decided to visit Paradise again this weekend (Saturday). The place at around 4 pm was still full of more guys then girls and many of the girls who I had remembered from previous visits were gone but there were still enough of the familiar faces to be seen. I did a round of the main area and didn't see anyone I hadn't been with before or that I wanted to go with but then I saw a new girl I didn't remember seeing with a very pretty face and a good slim body. So I sat down next to her and we began talking (in the smoking section near the bar area). She was 23, Romanian, named Alexandra and brunette, very slender and petite with a tiny waist and size A / be cup breasts, about 160 cm tall but wearing a black and white one piece swim wear type thing which was backless and open wide at the front so half her breasts and her front was naked. Don't know the technical name for it. She was very friendly and gave off good vibes and we spoke for a long time with no pressure from her to go a room. I fondled and played with her ass and boobs and she didn't mind. After asking my standard questions I was disappointed to learn she does not kiss at all and normally I would have said thanks but no thanks but I really liked her honesty and attitude and she had answered yes to my other 2 questions so eventually we went to the room. A very good session ensued so much so that I extended to an hour. Although she didn't kiss she gave a (very) good blowjob and her pussy was really tight. I made her come with my DATY and we had sex in multiple positions. She wouldn't let me come in her mouth though! Eventually came over her body. Very horny session which left me drained. A friendly and beautiful girl who is highly intelligent and dusky but gives limited (but very good) service. Alexandra, Ro, 23,160 cm, very slender with a tiny waist, brunette with black / brown eyes and dusky skin. F / be / P = 8. 5/9/7 Cost: 100 euros for 1 hour.

I was tired and then went for a sauna and steam room and then spoke to a new German-Bosniac girl called Jada who said it was her first day. She seemed really friendly and was 180 cm tall and I said I would go with her after dinner. After dinner where we happened to sit together (dinner was good) by chance I did wait for her for our allotted time but with no watch I only estimated it and didn't see her so I went to the jacuzzi. There still wasn't a great atmosphere and after my jacuzzi I lounged looking for some new talent. I seriously considered leaving when I saw a little blond girl with a perfectly round ass who caught my eye. I eventually beckoned her to me and she came and lay next to me and we talked. She said she would kiss and yes to my other questions but only if I booked for an hour. I couldn't be bothered to argue and I am glad I didn't because she gave me an incredibly horny fuck fest of a session. An incredible DFK and kinky as hell as well as very playful and funny, we really clicked and fucked each other's brains out. I came in her mouth with about 5 minutes of the hour to go but I was so turned on by her my dick became hard again almost immediately and I said yes when she asked if I wanted to extend? So we fucked for another 30 minutes and she made me come again more than the first time but with some help from my hand but the amount I came the second time was loads!! I was on rubbery legs by the time I left the room. I had a great time in the 1.5 hours with her. So Margareta (or Margerethe) Russian / Romanian, 163 cm, classical blonde, 19 years old, perfectly round and incredibly toned ass, nice breasts, pretty but not stunning. 7/8/9 200 euros (1.5 hours + CIM). Would definitely want to see her again! (She said she was at Mainhattan before I think).

Was totally wiped out by then but after showering when I went on another round to girl spot I noticed an increase in hot girls and spoke to Daria, a dark haired, slender and tallish Romanian, who said she was formerly at Oceans and also saw a girl from Palace called Arezu of Iranian stock as well another Turkish girl called Laila as I went for a second round of food. Both were very friendly and I spoke for a while with them and debated internally whether to have a 3 some with both of them. Decided against it as was too tired and had a headache too.

So showered and left. Overall not sure about Paradise at the moment. Sure, I had a good and one great session but didn't see so many 8+ girls I remember from my past visits. Would probably return but that's because I am a veteran monger and know enough girls to have a good time. Certainly the number of 8-9's was no where near when I was at Sakura a few weeks ago. The most disappointing thing was the atmosphere. Too many guys just sitting around and too many girls looking bored / bitching. If you are an experienced monger and don't mind paying 100 euros+ you can have a great time for sure -- or if you are new to the FKK scene it will still blow your mind--but it's certainly not the awesome place I knew even a year ago.

Still, I personally will probably be back. (Didn't see Eria or Maya on this visit -- two 10's I remember from previous visits).

Total spend: 379 euros + cab (includes entrance).

On a strange new change, you only get 2 towels when you enter along with your locker key and bracelet. Although you can then come to reception to get more if needed I found this a strange new policy.

Overall, I think that a person's experience in an FKK depends largely on when you go and your own abilities and so many clubs go up and down and it seems girls move more and more from club to club or only stay a short while before moving on.

YMMV.

[Exodus8]

Overall, I think that a person's experience in an FKK depends largely on when you go and your own abilities and so many clubs go up and down and it seems girls move more and more from club to club or only stay a short while before moving on.

YMMV.Thanks for another great report! Seems like the LU is pretty decent in paradise so I should pay a visit in the future.

[ExpatLover]

So, after 6 months I decided to visit Paradise again this weekend (Saturday). The place at around 4 pm was still full of more guys then girls and many of the girls who I had remembered from previous visits were gone but there were still enough of the familiar faces to be seen. I did a round of the main area and didn't see anyone I hadn't been with before or that I wanted to go with but then I saw a new girl I didn't remember seeing with a very pretty face and a good slim body. So I sat down next to her and we began talking (in the smoking section near the bar area). She was 23, Romanian, named Alexandra and brunette, very slender and petite with a tiny waist and size A / be cup breasts, about 160 cm tall but wearing a black and white one piece swim wear type thing which was backless and open wide at the front so half her breasts and her front was naked. Don't know the technical name for it. She was very friendly and gave off good vibes and we spoke for a long time with no pressure from her to go a room. I fondled and played with her ass and boobs and she didn't mind. After asking my standard questions I was disappointed to learn she does not kiss at all and normally I would have said thanks but no thanks but I really liked her honesty and attitude and she had answered yes to my other 2 questions so eventually we went to the room. A very good session ensued so much so that I extended to an hour. Although she didn't kiss she gave a (very) good blowjob and her pussy was really tight. I made her come with my DATY and we had sex in multiple positions. She wouldn't let me come in her mouth though! Eventually came over her body. Very horny session which left me drained. A friendly and beautiful girl who is highly intelligent and dusky but gives limited (but very good) service. Alexandra, Ro, 23,160 cm, very slender with a tiny waist, brunette with black / brown eyes and dusky skin. F / be / P = 8. 5/9/7 Cost: 100 euros for 1 hour..Visited Paradise today, nice place, good food. Around 40 girls, and 50 men. For me quite a poor LU, more German women than in many FKK around 35 to 40 years not my taste. On top of that I found some of them quite aggressive. Left the FKK without any session what is very rare for me.

[Sebastiane]

I just came back from Paradise and had an incredible session with Margareta, the young 19 year old, blonde Romanian / Russian girl from my last visit. I only went for her and it has to rank as easily in my Top 5 sessions of all time in FKKs. We spend 2 hours together of which 90 minutes were spent in non-stop fucking and another 30 in the jacuzzi together plus another 30+ before and after cuddling and playing around. Certainly one of the --if not the--greatest GFE in my FKK career to date. The sex was passionate as hell and included hard anal and DFK, DATY etc. I exploded inside her ass at about 75 minutes. Was awesome! A BJ in the jacuzzi was a first!

Total spend was 300 on her (for 2 hours room time + 100 for anal);.

I'm going to see her again ASAP!

Performance: 10+.

F / B: 8/8.

Apart from that it was very slow at Paradise and almost all girls wanted more than 50 for kissing. Luckily, I had already arranged to meet this girl beforehand!

[Narrah]

Direct ticket gives you access to the room through the staircase. If you buy the full ticket you have access to the club, including bar, restaurant, sauna, steam bath, massage (extra) and porno cinema.

HB.Does the direct ticket also allow you to go out and return later (same day); understand the full ticket allows that?

[Hessen Bub]

Does the direct ticket also allow you to go out and return later (same day); understand the full ticket allows that?The direct ticket is not really a ticket to the club, you pay the girls directly and enter the room directly. So if you return for a second session later it will probably be the same price again.

HB.

[BlueChange]

Hey guys.

I'm checking out this area. Great feed back. A couple things though.

I get mixed reports that this place fell off or that there are certified gems here. What exactly is it?

Second, when is the best possible time to go where there is actual talent and its not too crowded but also not a ghosttown.

Thanks for the advice in advance.

[ExpatLover]

Hey guys.

I'm checking out this area. Great feed back. A couple things though.

I get mixed reports that this place fell off or that there are certified gems here. What exactly is it?

Second, when is the best possible time to go where there is actual talent and its not too crowded but also not a ghosttown.

Thanks for the advice in advance.Was there last Thursday, very poor LU even too aggressive for me, for me I don't recommend at all this place.

[PussyLiccker]

Some commonalities I'd point out. Palace, Paradise are of a chain, and Artemis has the similar look to the club. Has the oriental design. Similarities in the types of girls in the establishments if I were to generalize (ok, I haven't visited in a very long time), with some variance. Higher percentage of pro-attitude, pro-lookin types. If there are high percentage of girls at these club offer you GFE packages, kissing included in packages, etc. , the club is pretty much at a pro-level. People probably don't think much of it, but extreme example is Palace like it or not.

Link between notable (to their fans, not me) girls moving between Palace and Artemis. So, these Palace/Paradise/Artemis kind of establishment has that sort of glamour, but very pro type girl environment.

I avoid any clubs that odds of running into a sharks, upsellers, GFE packagers, etc. If the optiks are tops I'd attend, I can put up with it, but if attitude is low, sharkiness high, bullshits are high, but optiks don't reach a level to be worth putting up with the bull-shit, I don't mind giving the club a miss. Since I Know my time and money can be spend better elsewhere.

I may check out Paradise again some day, but I got a feeling it's the same-O like the other similar establishments with some degree of differences. People should really expand their horizen, and check out many types of clubs. Experiences vary, and puts a perspective on what clubs are really worth a dime.

[Sebastiane]

To anyone considering going I'd say it is worth it to go and see for yourself (and this applies to any and every club); peoples expectations and experiences vary. I would say a first timer should visit on a Friday or Saturday and go from mid afternoon right through to midnight or even later. There are positives and negatives at this club like all clubs. On these days you have the largest selection of girls to choose from and the atmosphere can be fun. If I compare the lineup to what it was a year ago there has definitely been a downturn but that's also probably due to the time of year and other factors.

ISG is a great forum but nothing can beat visiting for yourself.

[ExpatLover]

Some commonalities I'd point out. Palace, Paradise are of a chain, and Artemis has the similar look to the club. Has the oriental design. Similarities in the types of girls in the establishments if I were to generalize (ok, I haven't visited in a very long time), with some variance. Higher percentage of pro-attitude, pro-lookin types. If there are high percentage of girls at these club offer you GFE packages, kissing included in packages, etc. , the club is pretty much at a pro-level. People probably don't think much of it, but extreme example is Palace like it or not.

Link between notable (to their fans, not me) girls moving between Palace and Artemis. So, these Palace/Paradise/Artemis kind of establishment has that sort of glamour, but very pro type girl environment.

I avoid any clubs that odds of running into a sharks, upsellers, GFE packagers, etc. If the optiks are tops I'd attend, I can put up with it, but if attitude is low, sharkiness high, bullshits are high, but optiks don't reach a level to be worth putting up with the bull-shit, I don't mind giving the club a miss. Since I Know my time and money can be spend better elsewhere.

I may check out Paradise again some day, but I got a feeling it's the same-O like the other similar establishments with some degree of differences. People should really expand their horizen, and check out many types of clubs. Experiences vary, and puts a perspective on what clubs are really worth a dime.Due to more and more tuff experiences in FKK clubs I am switching to Escort and I would like to say that often I am very happy with it, I am perfectly fluent in German so I can have great exchanges with the girls and most of them don t be escort for her main activity they usually have a job but I think they provide better service that most of the girls in the clubs who have sexe with a lot of men for many weeks and months.

[PussyLiccker]

I see your point, but it wasn't particularly true for me due to one girl. Majority of the girls I've been with are daily workers. One girl that was one of the best session ever was constantly sessioning throughout my visit. I got in on one of the session, wasn't that great, but decided to go with her again, and that one became explosive. And then she continued working. Some stamina she had, but she was pretty drained by the end of the night.

One girl that wasn't a daily worker, worked only on the weekend. She provided good services, but dunno if it was because she was a part timer. Good pre-sales tipped it off, not the looks as she was a good conversationalist.

What has been particularly common with part timers is they are more relaxed pre-sales. I end up have a good conversation, and pre-sales tend to be good. Conversations are more normal stuff since they have stuff to talk about since they don't work everyday.

Another part timer was same, relaxed time pre-sales, good conversations.

So, generally part-timers has been long pre-sales, relaxed couch chat, no rush or pushy for room right away. One interesting run-in was an older German lady married, and claimed that her husband knew she goes out to club to have sex. Perhaps, she would be described as a hobbyhuren?

One thing has been common for me is that the top service providers, I met them once and don't see them again. They don't work long.

[Sirioja]

Due to more and more tuff experiences in FKK clubs I am switching to Escort and I would like to say that often I am very happy with it, I am perfectly fluent in German so I can have great exchanges with the girls and most of them don t be escort for her main activity they usually have a job but I think they provide better service that most of the girls in the clubs who have sexe with a lot of men for many weeks and months.Each one his experience. Due to less attractive Russian escorts on tour in Paris than before, 2 or 3 years ago, I could meet 3 escorts in the week, out of week end, sometimes with some very regulars, I met them nearly every evening / night, but attractive beauties became rare even with Amour russe agency, so I spend more days in FKK and worked hard to find the Romanian key to open Romanian girls. I found many as pretty and as GFE as Russian girls, I even find Romanian girls are closer to me for behavior than Russian girls even I love Russian girls, but Romanian can be very sensual, when lies don t make me run away like yesterday.

[Hessen Bub]

One thing has been common for me is that the top service providers, I met them once and don't see them again. They don't work long.How often have you been to Paradise?

HB.

[PussyLiccker]

It was actually a general response not about Paradise. It's been way too long since I've been too Paradise.

[Member #4674]

Hello everyone,

If anyone know the brunette Romanian girl named Charline from Bucharest was still working in the Paradise?

Very pretty face in my opinion, 1.72 cm tall and 23 years old, big natural breasts, and big butt as well.

She has been worked in the club for 2 years since 2014 I think.

Really hope to see her again in June.

Thanks!

[PayForIt]

I'll post this in the Sakura threat as well. Decided I had to see Stuttgart having never been before. Interesting city located in a valley. Did a tour. Nearly 2 hours but worthwhile. Decided I would go out to Sakura first as all reports suggest it is the better club out of the two in Stuttgart. Contemplate PT but was lazy. Staying in a hotel at Flughafen (Momvenpicik. Top draw / really impressive) and didn't like the idea of several changes on train. Jumped a taxi - 50 euros.

This club is probably aesthetically the best I've ever been to out of the 10 FKKs I've now visited. Obviously the outdoors is nothing on World or Oase (though I hate that the don't cut the grass there) or even Sharks, but it is classy. And that goes for the whole club. On a completely different level than anything I've been to before. Very contemporary, lots of lovely downlighting in all the right places. From the locker rooms to the wellness area (amazing) to the beautiful massage area and fantastic huge TV screens inside and out, this is a place where your 75 euro entry gets you a lot. I find it hard to go to a club and spend all day there. I get bored. Even with all the nudity after a while! Not so in Sakura. Just a lovely place to hang out. Bar area is a bit restrictive. Not possible to even pour your own water. But still really impressive. The food was quite easily the best I've had in any FKK. Restaurant quality. Free beers.

So to the LU. I was really shocked. In a great way. Having been to Sharks on Thursday and was disappointed this was refreshing. Yes of course a club is going to have better LU on Friday than Thursday but you'd have thought Sharks would still have beaten a club in little Boblingen. Not so. 5 or 6 9/10's for me. Gia. Blonde, see naturals, beautiful face. Service 7/10. Nicola, very thin, bee cups, poor service 6/10 - better in bar than in room. Jill. Blonde Ro. Petite, slim, bee cups and terrific in the room 9/10 for service. Could quite easily have tried several more. The notion that the LU in this club is poor, on this showing, is just not right. I will definitely return to this club. The food, conditions, wellness, massage, facilities, even the music and critically the LU were really impressive. I had decided early in the day that whatever happened I'd visit Paradise whilst in this city even if only for 2 hours.

With a heavy heart. Left Sakura. Taxi to Paradise another 50 euros. Club felt really old immediately. 79 euros in. Similar to Artemis but not a patch on quality of the Art. First thing that struck me is that unlike the designated smoking area in Sakura, Paradise is like Artemis in having everywhere as a smoking zone. But worse. Hard to escape it and nearly every single girl smoked. As previously reported here the LU leaves a lot to be desired. There are a LOT of older women and overweight girls. The club is just tired. That said it was never going to compare to the splendour I'd witnessed in Sakura. However, there were some real peach girls amongst the crowd. It felt just like being in Palace. I spoke with one really pretty girl who said she didn't like Sakura because the customers were difficult. When I pressed her for an explanation she explained in horror - "they want to kiss". Wow. Can't imaging she gets much business. Had several girls offer me a full GFE for 100/30 minutes. None of them liked it when I just started laughing. I told them in no uncertain terms that this was not the rate in any club I'd been to in Germany and I wouldn't be paying it here. Several walked off! First session with Lolina. Blonde, pretty (7/10) body a little curvy, natural see cups, good service 8/10 and nice attitude with no attempt to upsell anything and DFK included without any request to extend etc. Would repeat. Had some food. It looked awful but was quite nice in fact. Bar area is too crowded. Hard to get served. Then all of a sudden a girl walked through the bar in a long white dress covering everything with long flowing blonde hair to her ass and a body to die for. She was stunning and turned a lot of heads. She went to the bar. The crowd parted in a way only Moses has achieved before! I decided delay would not be wise. Straight in and spoke to her asking if she was working as I didn't want to cause offence and was even worried that she might be horrified and say no. Happily not. Lovely girl and stunning to look at. Face easily 9/10. Body 9/10 - slim bee cups natural. Asked if she did DFK in room. Yes. Normal price though 50/50 euros I asked? Of course she says. Off we went. Got the usual request to go to the bathroom when in the room. No problem for me. When she returned I showed her my watch and said. Ok - 30 minutes from now yes? This did NOT affect her service. She was superb. DFK, really good BBBJ, more PSE than GFE but well capable of the latter. DATY encouraged to completion. I asked to extend to 1 hour with not a hint of upsell. She willingly agreed and we had a fantastic hour. Service at least 9/10 and better than anything at Sakura that day. Made my day in fact. Then the bombshell - "that's 200 euros baby". No I said - 100 - we had one hour, no anal and no CIM. "Yes but I gave you a personal service and some girls here charge 300 for one hour for this". I told her she was stunning, great fun, that I'd had a lovely time, but the rate is 100/ hour and that's it. She looked devastated. I told her I'd asked if normal prices applied at 50/50 and she had agreed. She bleated on about personal service until I told her that any girl giving a guy a BBBJ and FS was giving a personal service. I asked if she'd like to go to reception to sort the problem out. She refused. I gave her 120 including 20 tip as she was very good. She accepted it but clearly would not session with me again at this rate. This all rather spoiled the last hour I'd had with a stunning girl. Again there were 4 or 5 others I'd have been happy to room with but I'd had enough for one day and headed back to the hotel.

Conclusions:

Sakura is a much better club than Paradise but is some way away.

Sakura the best FKK for style and ambience I've been to. If it had the gym like Artemis it would be perfect but there is in fact one next door!

Food at both Sakura and Paradise was good.

Paradise is old with a lot of ladies who most guys would not find very attractive however it has some gems.

If you are going to visit both clubs in a day go to Paradise first because after it Sakura will feel like you landed in paradise!

LU better overall at Sakura, but not awful at Paradise with those gems.

If I could only return to one of them it would be Sakura without thinking.

[Pistons]

But that's the thing. You only need one or two 'gems'. So reading your report I'd head to Paradise as it sounds like the top gems are better there than at Sakura whereas the average is higher at Sakura than Paradise.

But whats the name of the gem you were talking about?

[Howie]

Then all of a sudden a girl walked through the bar in a long white dress covering everything with long flowing blonde hair to her ass and a body to die for. She was stunning and turned a lot of heads. She went to the bar. The crowd parted in a way only Moses has achieved before!
Hey PayForIt,

Do you have more details on the blonde Shark from your Paradise visit? I.e. name, nationality, age, any identifiable tattoos, time worked at Paradise, etc.

Could be interested for an Optifik, the next time I'm in Stuttgart.

Thanks. Howie.

[PayForIt]

Hey PayForIt,

Do you have more details on the blonde Shark from your Paradise visit? I.e. name, nationality, age, any identifiable tattoos, time worked at Paradise, etc.

Could be interested for an Optifik, the next time I'm in Stuttgart.

Thanks. Howie.Hi Howie. Name is Michaela, you won't miss her I promise. About 5. 9 or 10' high, Romanian, blue eyes and very long blonde hair down to her ass, tattoo on back but covered by dress until in the room. She said she'd been in Paradise for a year but I take that with a pinch of salt. Stunning and great service so if you make certain before you go to the room about price she is well worth it. I have rarely had attempts to upsell AFTER the session!

[PayForIt]

But that's the thing. You only need one or two 'gems'. So reading your report I'd head to Paradise as it sounds like the top gems are better there than at Sakura whereas the average is higher at Sakura than Paradise.

But whats the name of the gem you were talking about?Hi Pistons. See full details of Michaela in response to Howie. If it's just about the LU and one or two gems I agree. I couldn't spend more than a couple of hours at Paradise. It is so full of smoke in every area except the rooms. Sakura is a beautiful club and there were more gems. But not as wow factor as Michaela at Paradise.

[Hessen Bub]

At Paradise smoking is only allowed at the bar. The glass doors to the main room are usually open but still I never found the smoke to be disturbing.

HB.

[Banana Boi]

Name is Michaela, you won't miss her I promise. About 5. 9 or 10' high, Romanian, blue eyes and very long blonde hair down to her ass, tattoo on back but covered by dress until in the room.!I need to meet this girl who PFI chose over the likes of Karin and Isabelle (both tall, dirty blonde, and lean) at Sharks.

[Pistons]

Oh, I was hoping you would say her name was Aja. Any idea if she is still around though?

[PayForIt]

At Paradise smoking is only allowed at the bar. The glass doors to the main room are usually open but still I never found the smoke to be disturbing.

HB.It might only be allowed in that bar area but trust me it was not enforced. If you go past the far right end of the bar to the large lounge area with sofas against the wall nearly every girl there was smoking. Then on the large swinging bed right next to the restaurant there were several girls sitting their openly smoking clearly without any problem or trying to hide it. I thought the bar area in Artemis was bad but this was a whole different level and having come straight there from Sakura it was very noticeable.

[PayForIt]

I need to meet this girl who PFI chose over the likes of Karin and Isabelle (both tall, dirty blonde, and lean) at Sharks.I have sessioned with Karin once but not on this trip. I didn't see her in the club on Thursday. She is very pretty with a good body. I would say marginally prettier than Michaela at Paradise. But what made M stand out was that we was fully dressed in this figure-hugging white dress with that very long blonde hair. I don't know Isabelle. I asked Michaela if she ever walks around naked and she said she doesn't like to. She said she either wears this white dress or a similar tight black one. I didn't see the black one but you won't miss her. It's not just that she wears a dress. You'd notice her if she didn't. She is very attractive. Her service was much better than the one session I had with Karin, though the latter didn't try to upsell me after the session as Michaela did!

[Pistons]

I thought the bar area in Artemis was bad but this was a whole different level and having come straight there from Sakura it was very noticeable.Indeed, the bar area at paradise is a gas chamber. Completely unbearable to stay there. Its even worse than the palace smoking room.

[PussyLiccker]

I don't understand the smoking law in De. All the places I've been, it's not consistent. At one point there seem to have been a ban in the NRW region at one point, but that is not apparent anymore.

At one time LR didn't allow smoking inside, now it does. Aca, no smoking ban took place at the same time as LR, but still is unlike LR. Samya, no smoking before 10 pm in the lounge currently, but I think there was a complete ban back when others were. Hessen clubs, they got zoned off areas inside, and Sharks is not.

[Pistons]

Well what makes Paradise worse is that they also have shisha there. I have no idea if they are allowed to, but at least they do. And that adds alot of extra smoke.

[Hessen Bub]

I don't understand the smoking law in De. All the places I've been, it's not consistent. Yep, it's local authorities deciding. That's why it is inconsistent, even between Oase, Sharks, World, Mainhattan / Palace.

HB.

[Howie]

Hi Howie. Name is Michaela, you won't miss her I promise. About 5. 9 or 10' high, Romanian, blue eyes and very long blonde hair down to her ass, tattoo on back but covered by dress until in the room. She said she'd been in Paradise for a year but I take that with a pinch of salt.Thanks PFI.

For a moment, I thought it may have been Ellis/Alice making a come back to Paradise with a change of hair styling but based on the additional details you further described above, it is definitely not her.

Howie.

[NyyRanger]

Hi,

What are the prices at FKK Paradise in Stuttgart (both entrance and girls)? I looked at their web site, they have something called Direct Ticket for 30 Euro. What is that?

[PayForIt]

Hi,

What are the prices at FKK Paradise in Stuttgart (both entrance and girls)? I looked at their web site, they have something called Direct Ticket for 30 Euro. What is that?I didn't use it but I understand it's for direct use of the zimmers with the girl and no use of wellness and no food. Not sure how they police that. Once you are in I'd have thought you were in.

Price otherwise is 79 euros entrance. Girls are 50 euros for every 30 minutes without extras.

[Sebastiane]

Well on a whim I decided to go to Paradise on a Sunday. I got there early afternoon and stayed till about 9 pm and it was literally dead with about 10 girls present and only about 20 guys -- mostly old guys just lying around. Luckily, there were a couple of good looking girls of which one was an absolute stunner and so I naturally went with her.

Well initially I saw only one good looking girl. A young slim Romanian called Hazel who said she was half-British who was wearing a thong and bra. Very slim. About 160 cm. Very nice figure. Went to a room and was hard in no time so starting feeling kinky so asked her if she could bring a friend along and we try a threesome with H2 O sports and other stuff. She agreed and it was quite an interesting session -- no upselling or anything but I didn't really enjoy the fantasy and the friend was not my type at all but I was too polite to say no. Some memorable moments like licking Hazel's ass whilst the friend blew me and they swapped too. Hazel did good DFK throughout and has a piercing in her tongue. Eventually came in that position with Hazel with her ass over my face whilst her friend blue me. I came in her friends mouth. It was an experience shall we say but one that I won't care to repeat. Some porn fantasies should stay that way!

Hazel, Romanian, about early 20's, slim, 160. /7/7/9 + friend (name not asked or known) 5/5/5. Time 1 hour and a bit.

As I went to pay them I saw a girl at reception who was stunning. I started speaking to her as she was signing in before I'd even paid the other too! Asked her to wait for me as I showered.

Well afterwards I went straight away to look for her and saw her at the bar. I sat next to her as she smoked and we began to speak. Stunningly pretty Romanian girl, dark haired, 170 cm, curvy firm ass and slender waist and small be-cups. Was wearing a red-one-piece bathing suit. (Aside: was told by girls that there have been some changes -which I assume is following the Artemis raid. The girls no longer have to be completely nude if they don't want to and they no longer have to work fixed number of hours but can come and go as they please. Price structure remains same although most girls now give only suck and fuck for 50 euros with no kissing in my experience) Anyway this girl, Romanian called Regina had a beautiful face and bee-stung lips and almond shaped kohl-lined eyes. She was very honest and friendly and we spoke for a long time whilst she smoked and then she offered me some. Very open and honest girl. I stroked her thighs intermittently and we kissed. I was really enjoying talking to her and her freshness reminded me of a young Natascha at Palace a long time ago. Well I bought two drinks and we chatted more. She told me she had worked before in Globe and in the exclusive Babylon (Austria. Vienna) but left because it wasn't so good for the girls and not many customers. Apparently in Babylon thought its 500 per hour the girl only gets half of that. Anyway apparently there aren't many customers so its hard to earn a lot.

Anyway by now I knew I was going to go with this angel and so we went to the room and had an hour of pure GFE sex. This terms gets used a lot on here but this was a true GFE. Even after the hour was up we spent a bit of extra time chatting and smoking together. The sex was great. She made me hard in no time and her kisses all over my body were sublime. Her body is perfect. Fucked in multiple positions too including cowgirl, reverse cowgirl, doggy, legs-on-shoulders, kneed -bent missionary, missionary, and 69. Eventually came in 69 into her mouth. Regina, 170 cm without heels, 180+ with heels, Romanian, 23, brunette shoulder length her, straight, silky. Great find! Again as always YMMV. Would come to Paradise only for her. 9/8/10. Repeat? Definitely. 250 euros.

Spoke a while longer at the bar later before I left.

Showered, saunaed, had a jacuzzi and then left. It was still dead as I left though the girls said Saturday had been very busy with lots of guys.

[Sebastiane]

Well on a whim I decided to go to Paradise on a Sunday. I got there early afternoon and stayed till about 9 pm and it was literally dead with about 10 girls present and only about 20 guys -- mostly old guys just lying around. Luckily, there were a couple of good looking girls of which one was an absolute stunner and so I naturally went with her.

Well initially I saw only one good looking girl. A young slim Romanian called Hazel who said she was half-British who was wearing a thong and bra. Very slim. About 160 cm. Very nice figure. Went to a room and was hard in no time so starting feeling kinky so asked her if she could bring a friend along and we try a threesome with H2 O sports and other stuff. She agreed and it was quite an interesting session -- no upselling or anything but I didn't really enjoy the fantasy and the friend was not my type at all but I was too polite to say no. Some memorable moments like licking Hazel's ass whilst the friend blew me and they swapped too. Hazel did good DFK throughout and has a piercing in her tongue. Eventually came in that position with Hazel with her ass over my face whilst her friend blue me. I came in her friends mouth. It was an experience shall we say but one that I won't care to repeat. Some porn fantasies should stay that way!

Hazel, Romanian, about early 20's, slim, 160. /7/7/9 + friend (name not asked or known) 5/5/5. Time 1 hour and a bit.

As I went to pay them I saw a girl at reception who was stunning. I started speaking to her as she was signing in before I'd even paid the other too! Asked her to wait for me as I showered.

Well afterwards I went straight away to look for her and saw her at the bar. I sat next to her as she smoked and we began to speak. Stunningly pretty Romanian girl, dark haired, 170 cm, curvy firm ass and slender waist and small be-cups. Was wearing a red-one-piece bathing suit. (Aside: was told by girls that there have been some changes -which I assume is following the Artemis raid. The girls no longer have to be completely nude if they don't want to and they no longer have to work fixed number of hours but can come and go as they please. Price structure remains same although most girls now give only suck and fuck for 50 euros with no kissing in my experience) Anyway this girl, Romanian called Regina had a beautiful face and bee-stung lips and almond shaped kohl-lined eyes. She was very honest and friendly and we spoke for a long time whilst she smoked and then she offered me some. Very open and honest girl. I stroked her thighs intermittently and we kissed. I was really enjoying talking to her and her freshness reminded me of a young Natascha at Palace a long time ago. Well I bought two drinks and we chatted more. She told me she had worked before in Globe and in the exclusive Babylon (Austria. Vienna) but left because it wasn't so good for the girls and not many customers. Apparently in Babylon thought its 500 per hour the girl only gets half of that. Anyway apparently there aren't many customers so its hard to earn a lot.

Anyway by now I knew I was going to go with this angel and so we went to the room and had an hour of pure GFE sex. This terms gets used a lot on here but this was a true GFE. Even after the hour was up we spent a bit of extra time chatting and smoking together. The sex was great. She made me hard in no time and her kisses all over my body were sublime. Her body is perfect. Fucked in multiple positions too including cowgirl, reverse cowgirl, doggy, legs-on-shoulders, kneed -bent missionary, missionary, and 69. Eventually came in 69 into her mouth. Regina, 170 cm without heels, 180+ with heels, Romanian, 23, brunette shoulder length her, straight, silky. Great find! Again as always YMMV. Would come to Paradise only for her. 9/8/10. Repeat? Definitely.

Spoke a while longer at the bar later before I left.

Showered, saunaed, had a jacuzzi and then left. It was still dead as I left.

[Howie]

Stunningly pretty Romanian girl, dark haired, 170 cm, curvy firm ass and slender waist and small be-cups. Anyway this girl, Romanian called Regina had a beautiful face and bee-stung lips and almond shaped kohl-lined eyes.

Regina, 170 cm without heels, 180+ with heels, Romanian, 23, brunette shoulder length her, straight, silky. Great find! Again as always YMMV. Would come to Paradise only for her. 9/8/10. Repeat? Definitely.

Hey Sybarite2006,

Nice report.

Also you have PM. Quick query about Regina. If I think who I think it is, then one of the best BBBJ girls I know. Especially her no hands special :)

Howie.

[Hessen Bub]

Hey Sybarite2006,

Nice report.

Also you have PM. Quick query about Regina. If I think who I think it is, then one of the best BBBJ girls I know. Especially her no hands special :)

Howie.Curious. Who is it? PM me.

HB.

[Wanking]

The hoors look pretty hot to me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNahisHBDE4.

[Craiova]

The hoors look pretty hot to me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNahisHBDE4.As you say it's only a promotional clip and they look usually at every club nice. Best scene for me two girls alone in whirlpool and make a bit lesbian show for pleasure. Yep that happens in every club quite often. LOL.

[Pistons]

The hoors look pretty hot to me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNahisHBDE4.Silly use of actresses in all these promo videos. For us who has been to these clubs, the use of actresses feels like a mini scam, LOL.

Although you will probably find sexier girls at the clubs than the girls in this particular promo....

[Member #4384]

Hello,

I've been to FKK Goldentime Friday for people who loved the Ukrainian Page to FKK paradise Stuttgart last year she works at FKK Goldentime for 10 months under the name of Anastasia.

[Howie]

Hey Sybarite2006,

Did you happen to stop by Paradise Stuttgart this past weekend and if so, was Regina there? Thinking of stopping by Paradise this coming Friday if she is still there.

Thanks.

Howie.

[Sirioja]

Is blond Mihaella still there?

[BackpackBrian]

I read a couple of posts in this thread that some of the women wear clothes? Is Paradise a fully nude FKK or do some women walk around wearing clothes covering their private parts?

[PayForIt]

I read a couple of posts in this thread that some of the women wear clothes? Is Paradise a fully nude FKK or do some women walk around wearing clothes covering their private parts?See also my response to you in the Sakura thread. Neither club is fully nude or at least were not on my visits. Both club had some fully nude girls but in both a lot of the girls wore some underwear / bikinis though many were topless.

[Sebastiane]

Hey Sybarite2006,

Did you happen to stop by Paradise Stuttgart this past weekend and if so, was Regina there? Thinking of stopping by Paradise this coming Friday if she is still there.

Thanks.

Howie.Hi,

She told me she was going back to Romania for a while but will be back in July or September sometime. I didn't get to see her before she left.

[Sebastiane]

A short visit to Paradise.

Only 1 session this time but with a stunning girl. Mika 23 from Romania. 173 cm tall without heels and well over 180 cm with. Bleached blonde hair with highlights almost platinum to her shoulders, slender model like body and endless legs. Breasts A or be cups but the main reason I went with her was due to her very beautiful face with a sharpish countenance and thin nose and piercing blue eyes. I knew I had to have her as soon as I saw her on the couches. Her face drew me in!

I had already cum multiple times at Sakura yesterday and so I told her I might not be able to cum after we had spoken and she had answered my questions. In the room we began on the sofa and her soft LFK and sheer optifick quality and caresses had me hard in no time at all on the sofa in the bedroom. Sucked on her tits abd made her shudder. She then knelt down and sucked me with an expert BBBJ and her mouth was so soft and warm that in normal circumstances I would have cum. I stroked her hair and neck gently as she fellated me.

We then moved to the bed and kissed for a while before I began eating her out for a long time alternating from pussy to clit to arsehole with my lips and tongue. I also bit her inner thighs and labia gently. After some time she began the involuntary twitching which let's me know she is turned on as hell. Her ass hole was moist too and she let me put my finger inside a little bit and her kisses became deeper (though she said she doesn't do DFK!) Then we 69 ed and I rimmed her deeply. My Dick was really hard but when she put on the condom it went semi and so I apologized and she took took it off and we continued the 69. That was my only regret but it was my own fault! She wouldn't do AO! We were close to an hour by now and I wanted to cum so she sat on my face as I wanked and eventually I came. She cleaned me up and then we kissed abd chatted for a bit before I paid her 100. Memorable. Mika Romanian 23 173 cm 9.5/9/9. Definitely a repeat!

The atmosphere again was quite quiet for a Saturday night due to the football plus I knew many of the girls or had been with them and none of my old favorites were there so not wanting to spoil a good evening I ate the excellent dinner and went to the sauna and the jacuzzi and was tempted by a couple of girls (one a Serbian girl with lots of tattoos formerly from Pascha in Zurich and the other a very tall German with a cracking figure called Zarina who was sadly booked and waiting for a client) but wasn't able to go with them and so after a final look around showered and left after saying bye to Mika.

Will miss this place!

[SinglePro]

Hello everyone,

If anyone know the brunette Romanian girl named Charline from Bucharest was still working in the Paradise?

Very pretty face in my opinion, 1.72 cm tall and 23 years old, big natural breasts, and big butt as well.

She has been worked in the club for 2 years since 2014 I think.

Thanks!I spent half a dozen times with her over a period of one and half year. She told me she would retire from this business by December 2015 (last year). I called the club couple times few months ago to check if she's still working there and was told that she's no longer working at the club. She's one of those FKK ladies that have provided me unforgettable GFE experience. I guess we just have to move on.

[Hessen Bub]

http://www.stuttgarter-zeitung.de/inhalt.mord-an-einer-prostituierten-unerwiderte-liebe-als-moegliches-motiv.2f8251a5-857f-4a68-ae2e-c0301525578a.html

HB.

[MikeTk1974]

http://www.stuttgarter-zeitung.de/inhalt.mord-an-einer-prostituierten-unerwiderte-liebe-als-moegliches-motiv.2f8251a5-857f-4a68-ae2e-c0301525578a.html
HB.OMG! Here is a place to buy happiness from sex. Maybe Donald trump could buy love and sex. But I am not.

Hope I could punt some Romie here in coming late Aug.

[Sebastiane]

That's sad news. Has the woman been identified?

It says they think the murderer might have killed her because he was in love with her and she obviously wasn't. So it was a jealousy-fueled murder? Poor girl!

And then he killed himself!

[Sirioja]

That's sad news. Has the woman been identified?

It says they think the murderer might have killed her because he was in love with her and she obviously wasn't. So it was a jealousy-fueled murder? Poor girl!

And then he killed himself!So, same than close to Darmstadt, a few months ago, bad risky business for girls.

[McAdonis]

http://www.stuttgarter-zeitung.de/inhalt.mord-an-einer-prostituierten-unerwiderte-liebe-als-moegliches-motiv.2f8251a5-857f-4a68-ae2e-c0301525578a.html

HB.Think this is a dilemma for WGs. If the WG does not give enough illusion, she fails to hook high-paying customers. If the WG gives too much illusion, the man falls in love, creating a fatal attraction scenario. But if a WG knows her customer only makes 30 K EUR, she shouldn't try to milk him for 20 K EUR--especially if she knows the customer is mentally unstable. Harder said than done to resist a well paying customer.

I sense I will get attacked for vilifying the WG. Of course, that is NOT my intent. She was simply doing her job--perhaps too well. She certainly didn't deserve to pay with her life.

[Hessen Bub]

There was a report from a guy who spent 50 k€ on a girl at Paradise, stalking her, getting too deep into her, fucking her BB and posting that information including her name, personal details and stuff on BW7. Post got deleted by admin. After a few days.

HB.

[Horny Harry]

Think this is a dilemma for WGs. If the WG does not give enough illusion, she fails to hook high-paying customers. If the WG gives too much illusion, the man falls in love, creating a fatal attraction scenario. But if a WG knows her customer only makes 30 K EUR, she shouldn't try to milk him for 20 K EUR--especially if she knows the customer is mentally unstable. Harder said than done to resist a well paying customer.

I sense I will get attacked for vilifying the WG. Of course, that is NOT my intent. She was simply doing her job--perhaps too well. She certainly didn't deserve to pay with her life.Well, according to the politically correct feminists and various lefties, EVERYTHING is automatically the man's fault. LOL!

However I suspect that in many of these 'crimes of passion' the woman also should get a big portion of the blame for letting the situation completely slip out of control by not setting any clear boundaries (neither for herself nor for her customers) and by using vague and ambiguous communication. Why can't some women say: "look honey, you're quit nice, but let's keep in professional and business only. ".

[MikeTk1974]

Think this is a dilemma for WGs. If the WG does not give enough illusion, she fails to hook high-paying customers. If the WG gives too much illusion, the man falls in love, creating a fatal attraction scenario. But if a WG knows her customer only makes 30 K EUR, she shouldn't try to milk him for 20 K EUR--especially if she knows the customer is mentally unstable. Harder said than done to resist a well paying customer.

I sense I will get attacked for vilifying the WG. Of course, that is NOT my intent. She was simply doing her job--perhaps too well. She certainly didn't deserve to pay with her life.I am in HK where have experienced so much such cases. Come on! Be Smart! We search many happiness from sex in Mainland Dongguan like Germans search cheap sex happiness from Romania. This is just an non regular event from the collapse of Iron Curtion like opening of Red China in 1974. We are punters, but must know more from history. But I know many Americans are so stupid from history. They want to know more about the future, not the past.

[MikeTk1974]

There was a report from a guy who spent 50 k on a girl at Paradise, stalking her, getting too deep into her, fucking her BB and posting that information including her name, personal details and stuff on BW7. Post got deleted by admin. After a few days.

HB.OMG! This guy seems out of control. Standalone without normal relationship. Failed to search real love. Here is to search real sex happiness. That's all. They are hookers, just so called sex workers for our cheap sex satisfaction. We are concerned how many natural busty Romie are still here. IMO, the natural busty gals are mainly from Czech and Romania. Like so much busty China mainland with non-curvy body shape.

[Sirioja]

Think this is a dilemma for WGs. If the WG does not give enough illusion, she fails to hook high-paying customers. If the WG gives too much illusion, the man falls in love, creating a fatal attraction scenario. But if a WG knows her customer only makes 30 K EUR, she shouldn't try to milk him for 20 K EUR--especially if she knows the customer is mentally unstable. Harder said than done to resist a well paying customer.

I sense I will get attacked for vilifying the WG. Of course, that is NOT my intent. She was simply doing her job--perhaps too well. She certainly didn't deserve to pay with her life.Even when you meet weekly a girl, even you look for GF illusion, even she plays very well GF for you, if you have no brain to be able to know it's only illusion, then look at her going for 50 with the first other guy if you are not able to understand it's only business and game to play. Unfortunately for girls, not many normal guys in brothels, but many poor mind guys.

[Hessen Bub]

Why can't some women say: "look honey, you're quit nice, but let's keep in professional and business only. ".That would mean less money.

HB.

[The Cane]

Think this is a dilemma for WGs. If the WG does not give enough illusion, she fails to hook high-paying customers. If the WG gives too much illusion, the man falls in love, creating a fatal attraction scenario. But if a WG knows her customer only makes 30 K EUR, she shouldn't try to milk him for 20 K EUR--especially if she knows the customer is mentally unstable. Harder said than done to resist a well paying customer.

I sense I will get attacked for vilifying the WG. Of course, that is NOT my intent. She was simply doing her job--perhaps too well. She certainly didn't deserve to pay with her life.No, I agree with you and think that your post is spot on. It normally require two to tango! You should not be attacked for stating the complex truth.

[ExpatLover]

Well, according to the politically correct feminists and various lefties, EVERYTHING is automatically the man's fault. LOL!

However I suspect that in many of these 'crimes of passion' the woman also should get a big portion of the blame for letting the situation completely slip out of control by not setting any clear boundaries (neither for herself nor for her customers) and by using vague and ambiguous communication. Why can't some women say: "look honey, you're quit nice, but let's keep in professional and business only. ".Yes this could be a solution but we should not forget that many of those girls have low education and try to earn as much as possible. Only very few of them like to be a prostitute and it is really not easy to have sex with so many men every day, and try to make them believe you love them, in consequence when they can find a regular who pays good for less why not. Very sad end for such a woman.

[ExpatLover]

OMG! This guy seems out of control. Standalone without normal relationship. Failed to search real love. Here is to search real sex happiness. That's all. They are hookers, just so called sex workers for our cheap sex satisfaction. We are concerned how many natural busty Romie are still here. IMO, the natural busty gals are mainly from Czech and Romania. Like so much busty China mainland with non-curvy body shape.This guy was married with a child, he just felt in love of her and killed her and committed suicide after with a knife, seems to have a strong motivation to act like this. Very sad end for both of them. Difficult to find the right worlds for such a terrible situation.

[ExpatLover]

OMG! This guy seems out of control. Standalone without normal relationship. Failed to search real love. Here is to search real sex happiness. That's all. They are hookers, just so called sex workers for our cheap sex satisfaction. We are concerned how many natural busty Romie are still here. IMO, the natural busty gals are mainly from Czech and Romania. Like so much busty China mainland with non-curvy body shape.90% of the FKK girls are from Romanian because it is one of the poorest country in europe with very few job opportunities. Most of them are coming from poor families and have no other option that to sell their body to her their living. Due to recent food and health improvement in China you have more and more Chinese women with curvy body also and nice boobs. Just look how the size of the Chinese women's feet have increase in the last 30 years the rest is following too.

[Horny Harry]

Why can't some women say: "look honey, you're quit nice, but let's keep in professional and business only. ".


That would mean less money.

HB.Less money? As opposed to what? Some love sick puppy showing up with a knife in a parking lot? Well, maybe that extra money can buy her a nice coffin.

I guess there has to be a balance somewhere, but some supposedly "professional" women seem to be either totally clueless or completely blinded by greed and money.

[AznHotBoy]

I guess there has to be a balance somewhere, but some supposedly "professional" women seem to be either totally clueless or completely blinded by greed and money.This story is indeed really sad. Some of these "professionals" are just little girls, they can be quite naive. Just because they can attract men and have a lot of sex doesn't mean they know how to handle themselves. Plenty of girls I met have said at one point they dated a customer, or is still dating one. Also staying in clubs gives them a false sense of security, they lose track of the dangers of this job.

A lot of the professionalism comes with age, the older they get the more they understand how to handle their own feelings and their customers feelings. Also especially with the young ones, it's amazing how much of their personal lives they are willing to share in long session rooms when I just want a back massage.

[Hessen Bub]

These girls lack education, they are naive, they may have pressure to make money because they have a manager. That's why they try to milk as much money as possible from the guys. No matter how much she acted, it doesn't justify murder.

HB.

[McAdonis]

From the reports, the man spent 50 k€ over a two and a half year period for 900 hours of room time with the WG. The WG had also been fearful of her life leading up to the attack. So she definitely saw the warning signs and indications that this man was capable of such a horrific act. Perhaps the WG sold the illusion that she was going to runaway with the man and get married? Although details haven't emerged, I suspect the man gave up on his marriage, spent all his money on the WG, only to be rejected by the girl once his money ran out. Being rejected is traumatic enough, but to be broke and lonely at the same time would be rock bottom. That might even drive a sane man crazy. I am sure the WG realized this. She simply thought she could control the situation.

All girls, even the naive and uneducated ones, develop a survival instinct to spot crazy, potentially dangerous men. After all, it's not like they have the physical strength to defend themselves against a man. It's just a WG, must ignore this alarm, because the obsessed customers are the ones that spend $$.

[McAdonis]

Even when you meet weekly a girl, even you look for GF illusion, even she plays very well GF for you, if you have no brain to be able to know it's only illusion, then look at her going for 50 with the first other guy if you are not able to understand it's only business and game to play. Unfortunately for girls, not many normal guys in brothels, but many poor mind guys.Problem is people see what they want to see, and ignore everything else. Emotion or love can cloud judgement. My friend's wife was cheating on him. Everybody knew it except him. It was obvious to everyone except him.

All boxers have a coach or trainer who gives them instructions in between each round. It is another set of eyes. The coach offers another perspective and another angle and can see things the boxer is not able to see. This man at Paradise probably attended the club alone and had no friend to tell him to face reality.

[Hessen Bub]

McA: You're purely speculating. Doesn't say he was broke doesn't say she promised him anything. From his post in bw7 she didn't.

HB.

[PussyLiccker]

These girls lack education, they are naive, they may have pressure to make money because they have a manager. That's why they try to milk as much money as possible from the guys. No matter how much she acted, it doesn't justify murder.

HB.And your statement about having managers isn't speculatory? How do you know which ones do and does not have management, and if for those girls that milk money from guys that it's due to managers?

What constitute as milking?

If the guy is infatuated with a girl, invests heavily on her, it's his money and decision. As a provider for money, it's only reasonable for her to be most receptive to that.

The girls should be able to figure out guys that are deep into them. If the cash-inflow is high, she will keep playing the game. Just easier to play the game with somebody that is hooked on her. Doesn't matter the experience of the girl. If anything, the girl should be able to up her game higher due to her past experiences.

He just a crazy dude with an obsession with a girl. P6 world or not, there are crazy dudes with obsessions.

Punters should be aware of that what he invests, he gets in return to a degree, but doesn't mean he owns the girl or can control her actions.

Do girls care about how much the punter has or makes? The punter can be poor, but if he spends high percentage of his earning on her, will not care. In general, some punters have more money to burn, but on the WG's side, it's all about what is coming in no matter what the financial status of the customer like in any business industry.

[ExpatLover]

And your statement about having managers isn't speculatory? How do you know which ones do and does not have management, and if for those girls that milk money from guys that it's due to managers?

What constitute as milking?

If the guy is infatuated with a girl, invests heavily on her, it's his money and decision. As a provider for money, it's only reasonable for her to be most receptive to that.

The girls should be able to figure out guys that are deep into them. If the cash-inflow is high, she will keep playing the game. Just easier to play the game with somebody that is hooked on her. Doesn't matter the experience of the girl. If anything, the girl should be able to up her game higher due to her past experiences.

He just a crazy dude with an obsession with a girl. P6 world or not, there are crazy dudes with obsessions.

Punters should be aware of that what he invests, he gets in return to a degree, but doesn't mean he owns the girl or can control her actions.

Do girls care about how much the punter has or makes? The punter can be poor, but if he spends high percentage of his earning on her, will not care. In general, some punters have more money to burn, but on the WG's side, it's all about what is coming in no matter what the financial status of the customer like in any business industry.May be the solution is not to trying to put logic or realistic meaning / thinking on things that are not for example love, or irrational behaviors like myself or others, why we go to meet girls from Romanian probably 10/15/20/25 years younger than we are, having sex with them and after reporting it on a forum. FKK Club are the place where everything is fake starting by my own behavior, sorry but I never told my friends or family (spouse, girl friend, children) member that I visit those clubs, may be many of you are doing the same? Are the girls explaining to their family that hey suck hundred of guys every year I am not sure about it.

[Horny Harry]

These girls lack education, they are naive, they may have pressure to make money because they have a manager. That's why they try to milk as much money as possible from the guys. No matter how much she acted, it doesn't justify murder.

HB.Does a WG really need "education" in order to have some common sense with regards to milking desperate men for money in return for sex? Does one need an "education" in order to interact with other people (male/female) in a normal way without trampling all over someone's feelings?

Sorry, but I don't buy the standard "women-are-poor-desperate-naive-sensitive-creatures," and "men-are-hearless-selfish-sexist-murderers" excuse.

As I said before, there has to be a middle ground, some common sense and some mutual respect somewhere, both for men and for women, but I guess we will probably never know what kind of sweet promises and romantic lies were whispered when these two were in a room together.

[Hessen Bub]

Sorry, but I don't buy the standard "women-are-poor-desperate-naive-sensitive-creatures," and "men-are-hearless-selfish-sexist-murderers" excuse.Me neither. Relax. All good. Regarding management I wasn't speculating about the girl related to this case. I knew her. But not that well.

HB.

[McAdonis]

McA: You're purely speculating. Doesn't say he was broke doesn't say she promised him anything. From his post in bw7 she didn't.

HB.Yes, I was speculating. I believe I made that evident with my usage of "I suspect. " and "maybe".

I don't believe I used the word "promise". Sometimes hinting at something is enough to lead someone on, because if people are desperate enough, they ignore the facts and see what they want to see. WGs hinting at marriage is a common practice. Some WG's do it every time I see them. That is what I meant by selling the illusion. I'd consider it a promise, only if she had fixed a date, reserved a chapel, or spent some money on a wedding dress.

Suicide rates are higher when people face financial troubles. Suicide rates are higher when someone they love has rejected them. Sometimes emotional pain alone is enough to push someone over the edge. Couple that with financial pain and someone whose mind is warped enough to blame the WG for his own stupidity, then you have a recipe for disaster. I suspect if we were to research the murder cases where the WG and customer had a long-term relationship, the vast majority of the customers would not have been rich men. But who knows, maybe this FKK Paradise customer was different.

Never read his post in bw7. The post contained zero references to "promises"? Or did the post specifically say "She never made any promises to me. "?

[Craiova]

Just wish her RIP.

And finish all other post about this.

[Horny Harry]

Just wish her RIP.

And finish all other post about this.Yes, you're right, let's finish speculating about this subject.

May she Rest In Peace.

[Sebastiane]

Me neither. Relax. All good. Regarding management I wasn't speculating about the girl related to this case. I knew her. But not that well.

HB.HB,

I went to Paradise quite frequently and I've been thinking whether the poor girl who was killed was one I would have known or at least seen around the club. Do you know her working name or wish to share it via PM? It's a sad event and speculation doesn't help. May she RIP.

[YRoma]

HB,

I went to Paradise quite frequently and I've been thinking whether the poor girl who was killed was one I would have known or at least seen around the club. Do you know her working name or wish to share it via PM? It's a sad event and speculation doesn't help. May she RIP.From what I heard from other girl that said knowing her, her name is Linda.

[Mack Dad]

So I made it to paradise taking the S3 train from huapenhouf in Stuttgart and then the 77 bus. The Day pass ticket cost 6. 80 euros. I arrived at the place and the entry fee was 79 euros and it didn't include beer. All soda and food is included in the entry fee. The club is set up like 101 Arabian nights theme. The buffet was so so with only 4 hot food options and plenty of salad and fruit plates. The Jacuzzi was small only for 4 people. Steam room and sauna was nice. The bar selections for alcohol was wide and had all the drinks you wish to pay for at 10 euros a drink. 25 girls were on duty this afternoon. I was so tired I decided to do a legit massage for 35 euros for 30 minutes. The masseuses really did a good job and really hit all the spots to unwind. After the massage I relaxed in the Jacuzzi. Went to the buffet to eat. Later I walked around and I realized this place is big with so many places to walk around to. This place had at least 40 rooms to take the girls back. I took a young Hungarian girl with a set of DD's and nice ass. I took her to the porno room to beat the brakes off her. For 30 minutes it ran me 50 euros. After doing my Ron Jeremy I went to take a shower and I ran into a Romanian girl who remembered me from the palace in Frankfurt last year. I am like WTH I can't escape them. Total time in the FKK 4 hours total damage around 171 euros. Whole lot cheap then Monte Carlos in rio two weeks ago which I ran up bill of 1000 Reais on food and drinks and just one girl.

[Samurai2000]

I drove to FKK Paradise for the first time in several years the other day, one of the weekdays. Everything was same, except that the entry price is now 79 E.

I was not sure if that was how the place is, but the place was really dead around 6 PM when I arrived, with roughly 10+ customers and 15+ girls, not including ones in the room. The problem is that there is no one attractive enough to pay for the services.

Though, I spoke to some girls, and realized that many girls offer so-called "Full-service deal at 100 E for 30 min". It turned out that this Full service deal including an option, such as CIM, but some also said that if we do not take "the Full service", then we just get "Normal BJ and Sex" and we do not get KISS. I was wondering what is happening.

While I was killing some time, I saw one very skinny and tall girl (185 cm with heels) who has a figure like a model. Later, I introduced myself and sat with her to chit-chat. I forgot her name for some reason, but she was from Czech around 30. Good English and very conversational. Anyway, we decided to go up and I had wonderful time. I took this "Full Service Deal" since I thought she was really cool and wanted to CIM or cum over tits. She was very accomodative for all of my small requests. She may not be PSE, but sex was pretty great and I was very much happy. If you like "Model types", I would recommend her, though for some people, she may be too skinny.

Anyway, I left the place around 10 PM, wondering what "Normal 50 E, 30 min session" would be like now with those girls at Paradise. Or everyone there is trying to upsell, upsell and upsell.

Bye.

[XXL]

Two of the three girls I sessioned gave poor service with no BBBJ and no DATY allowed. One of the two started upselling for long-time straight away and then closed her legs together while in doggy-style instead of keeping them apart as required in standard doggy. The 2nd one made a long face when I handed her "only" 50 euros. What did she expect?

This is Beer Festival time in Stuttgart, maybe the girls were expecting crowds of overpayers later in the day, hence the even worse than usual attitude. Or maybe many girls were already heavily discounting the "New Law" into their service.

[MongerLoid1]

Paradise is a fun club. The facilities are decent and they have some nice looking girls most nights. Spent a few fun nights there last month.

However, beware of one little con artist that works the club. She goes by "Bianca" in the club, but her name is [Personal Name deleted by Admin] She is of course like most of the girls there a Romanian. I spent a night in the club with her and she gave me her phone number. She came over as an escort to my hotel a few nights while I was in town. It was fun hanging out with her, nothing spectacular but it helped pass the boredom. We kept in touch and as I had planned to return to Stuttgart the next month, I was looking to hook up with her again outside the club.

She began asking me for favors (help as she put it) in the form of money & gifts with the promise that when I returned to Stuttgart she would return my generosity in kind. She would spend time with me and be like my "girlfriend" while I was there, "make me feel good" etc. Oh, how great it was going to be according to her. So being a trusting fellow (I. E. An idiot) money was given in advance of services rendered and promises were made by her. Then as the date we were to meet approached the trap slammed shut. She told me I would need to pay her extra money. Like a huge amount extra, for her time even though it had already been agree and paid for. And also that I would have to pay the Paradise 200 euro each time she came to spend time with me, so she could leave the club.

But not to worry, "she was giving me a good deal". I told her I wasn't willing to pay double or triple the going rate, especially since I'd already advanced her a bunch of Euro. I told her that she should honor our bargain come over for the agree upon hours and we would be square. Her response, "You want me to work for free? So apparently she is hooker with Alzheimer and forgets when someone gives her a few thousand euro to do what she promised.

Long story short, she ripped me off. When I asked that she return my money on the phone she passed off the phone to one of the security guys who attempted to threaten me before I hung up. Ha!

Nice guys beware, she is a con artist. Don't believe a word she says and above all don't give her money in advance! Best to avoid her all together there's plenty of girls in the club.

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[Sirioja]

Paradise is a fun club. The facilities are decent and they have some nice looking girls most nights. Spent a few fun nights there last month.

However, beware of one little con artist that works the club. She goes by "Bianca" in the club . She is of course like most of the girls there a Romanian. I spent a night in the club with her and she gave me her phone number. She came over as an escort to my hotel a few nights while I was in town. It was fun hanging out with her, nothing spectacular but it helped pass the boredom. We kept in touch and as I had planned to return to Stuttgart the next month, I was looking to hook up with her again outside the club.

She began asking me for favors (help as she put it) in the form of money & gifts with the promise that when I returned to Stuttgart she would return my generosity in kind. She would spend time with me and be like my "girlfriend" while I was there, "make me feel good" etc. Oh, how great it was going to be according to her. So being a trusting fellow (I. E. An idiot) money was given in advance of services rendered and promises were made by her. Then as the date we were to meet approached the trap slammed shut. She told me I would need to pay her extra money. Like a huge amount extra, for her time even though it had already been agree and paid for...Thanks to share your bad experience. I heard same, so many times.

Never give money to WGs before getting services from her, or you will be fucked.

Nevertheless, most of Romanian girls are honest, for my experience.

[Sebastiane]

Hi,

I am planning of making a visit to Stuttgart in early 2017 and I'll visit Paradise and Sakura. I just want to know if the girl Michaela (who PayforIt described so brilliantly) is still working in Paradise as I've not read any more reports mentioning her. How about Regina and Mara?

Are there any new girls at the club worth seeing?

Thanks!

[YRoma]

The girl who I went with who was called 'Eria ' (she said it as 'Area') was really very beautiful and I remember she said she has also worked in Ingolstadt before. She looked a bit like the Greek model below (with a slightly more hooked nose).

She has mesmerized me. Can't stop thinking about her! She was tall, lithe, beautiful, with a perfect body and magnificent breasts.I couldn't forget about Eria after our last encounter in the summer of 2015. I came back a couple times to Paradise but no luck. I finally learnt she has left Paradise and work as an independent escort elsewhere. PM me if you want to know more.

[Rain City]

Visited Paradise recently. It's located very close to Stuttgart airport. It seemed a lot of business travelers visit this place. Entry was 79 Euro (ouch! Although the facility was large and nice, food and drink were nothing special. Lineup was definitely older. The youngest I spotted, a tall Czech beauty, was around 30 yr old. To me, she was the only doable woman of all the SPs that day. As many pointed out, she told me the special "full service" price at the club, 100 Euro /30 min. I counter offered normal service at 50 Euro /30 min. , and she declined. After that, I could not find anybody else I was interested, so just left. This is the second time at any club in Germany that I left without going to a room. I don't think I will visit this club again.

[PussyLiccker]

I agree. That place is Ro hell. The worst kind of Romania, full of upsellers and sharks. Several girls clumped up in groups or pairs asking for 3 or 4 sums.

LU is better, and optically good and better than Sakura with stronger numbers. Sakura hs more natural look types, and Paradise like Oceans has girls of more makeup, etc. Also similar quality as Oceans.

The difference is at Oceans, upselling isn't that prevent or nearly that much.

Couldn't find a girl with even decent conv skills. It's the typical Ro bs, usually baby, baby, I want chu, bla, bla.

Now I understand when guys think Ro girls provide bad services. It depends on club culture. Interestingly, a club can have more good Ro, but this place ain't it.

Sakura with Ro also, but much better interaction with the Romies there. Probably more quality control at Sakura. Services are likely generally better at Sakura. I find Sakura is akin to Finca in terms of quality of the girls. So, these two clubs will only be an option if I'm in town. No reason to head down with Hessen nearby.

Food didn't look all that good. Sakura has better food.

[PussyLiccker]

The part I don't agree with is club being older girls. Mainly young Romies. It's another Romania.

[Hessen Bub]

Can't imagine the youngest girl being 30+. Haven't been for ages, club was going pretty much downhill since the Razzia when they took in Berretin and Rudloff left the country.

HB.

[PussyLiccker]

I had no motivation to session there. The interation with girls were much better at Sakura. No session. Very unpleasant experience.

[PussyLiccker]

Hi,

I am planning of making a visit to Stuttgart in early 2017 and I'll visit Paradise and Sakura. I just want to know if the girl Michaela (who PayforIt described so brilliantly) is still working in Paradise as I've not read any more reports mentioning her. How about Regina and Mara?

Are there any new girls at the club worth seeing?

Thanks!There was a light brunette or dark blond ex-Globe on my visit. Pretty much close to a stunner. Tall, hot bod model. One of the hottest Romies I've seen on the trip. She's looking for close to Globe rates even in De if yall are willing to shell out what she require. Expects to be bought a drink, or perhaps wants to sit around somebody on bottled service.

[PussyLiccker]

Can't imagine the youngest girl being 30+. Haven't been for ages, club was going pretty much downhill since the Razzia when they took in Berretin and Rudloff left the country.

HB.I haven't in a really long time. Avg LU is young Romies. Differeent from yrs ago. I spotted a blond older type ex-Oase, but it's another high Romy LU now. I notice more Romies with tattoos than Sakura I don't notice tattooed girls.

Romanians are pretty much prevelant everywhere including GT Vien, Andiamo, Welcum Austria. Met ex-Oase at Welcum.

With many clubs incuding Swiss and Aus. Girls have many options and pricing, avg service levels of clubs. Austria, extras beyond what has been standard in De are much more common if comparing avg De clubs.