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Have the honor of starting the new Paradise thread by indexing all of the previous reports on the various threads.
From the reports and the video there now looks to be a little bit of mongering paradise down south.
A great big thanks to the posting pioneers who braved uncharted territories to post these initial reports and looking forward to seeing new posts accumulate rapidly (Hopefully, one of them will be mine!)
Njoy, and post!
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=852452&highlight=Paradise
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=848011&highlight=Paradise
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=825684&highlight=Paradise
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=818994&highlight=Paradise
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=818982&highlight=Paradise
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=818415&highlight=Paradise
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=739647&highlight=Paradise
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=708829&highlight=Paradise
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=705352&highlight=Paradise
Hi guys,
Since the new thread for FKK Paradise I feel obliged giving in my quick report of my April raid in Leinfelden. Was the first time for me and I was impressed with the facilities: it shows that the management is the same of Palace, the furniture and the decorations are top notch with a Arabian Nights feeling: huge open space (the rooms are all upstairs) with huge couches with huge pillows everywhere.
Nice SPA facilities, including a funny snow cavern (Schneegrotte) with real ice walls inside for the mongers feeling very brave after the sauna.
Food was more than ok, lots to choose from.
Even though it was mid week (Wednesday) there were a good number of ladies (at least 40), among them 5-10 too milfy / bad looking but with 5-10 lookers and a good average for the rest. What I really didn’t like too much was the attitude of the girls: there were vey few customers 15 to 30 throughout my stay (ca. 6 to 1030pm), and the mushis were for the main part just lying on the sofas looking bored like they were waiting in line for the dentist.
A few of the approached me and were very rude when I politely declined, and some of them very clearly said they don’t kiss, don’t do DATY, or they do but only if you tip them 20-30 euro. One tall blade said to an Italian friend I met there that he should give her 100 euro for normal half haur or she wouldn’t go. Maybe it was because I was not recognized as a stammkunde, but this vibe kind of killed my mood, since I could’nt really get relaxed like I’m used to in GT or in Oase.
Managed however to have two positive sessions, with two Romanian girls (would you have guessed that? ):
CARLA (Romania), 21 yo, brown/red hair, tanned, 160cm, B cups, was the first girl that approached me with a sincere smile, and when I told her why a was a bit disappointed with my stay so far, she looked very sad and with eyes saying: I love so much DATY that you can eat my pussy even for free! We kissed and fondled on a big sofa and moved to a room: I was very horny and was in charge of the session from the first till the last minute, she enjoyed my backdoor DATY on her fours and came very hard, and then after BBJ and 69 she just let me fuck her in all positions with good participation. A well spent 30 mins for 50 euro.
SANY (Romania), 20 yo, pale skin, 160cm, long straight black hair. I noticed that she was spending lots of time with some stammkunden out of the room, which was for me evidence she could give a very dedicate and gentle session. So it was in fact, in the room very unrushed service, I told her to be my geisha (she has a rather oriental shape of eyes) and just enjoyed her taking care of me.
All the usual acronyms for 50 euros.
I left the place with mixed feelings, I think that you can find good service here if you visit with all the radars turned on (I did) but maybe if you are a newbie the place don’t give you a warm welcome.
Too bad because the facility is 5-star. I kept asking myself: what would happen if you put the Oase lineup in this kind of classy place?
I have not had the opportunity to visit club Paradise. I live in Stuttgart Germany though I am currently on vacation in the states. I just learned that the main FKK I visit, FKK Haus is no more. I have read the previous posts about Paradise and am very intrigued about visiting the club. I mostly travel in Stuttgart by public transportaion and was wondering if the club is in fact acessable by the S-trains or even a you-train, if so what stop you would need to get off and how long a walk it would take to get there. If it is not possible to take public transportation to the club and walk there, I assume one could get off at the airport by taking the S3 and then take a cab there. Does anyone know how much a cab would cost to get there. Any information would be helpful.
Hessen Bub
06-03-09, 09:38
Any information would be helpful.
The club is located at Leinfelden-Echterdingen, Dieselstrasse. There is a S-Bahn-Station nearby, as you can see on Google Maps. Shouldn't be more than a 5 min walk:
http://maps.google.de/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=de&geocode=&q=Leinfelden-Echterdingen,+dieselstrasse&sll=48.694331,9.14305&sspn=0.006954,0.019312&g=Leinfelden-Echterdingen,+neuer+markt&ie=UTF8&ll=48.693453,9.170408&spn=0.013909,0.038624&z=15
HB
I have not had the opportunity to visit club Paradise. I live in Stuttgart Germany though I am currently on vacation in the states. I just learned that the main FKK I visit, FKK Haus is no more. I have read the previous posts about Paradise and am very intrigued about visiting the club. I mostly travel in Stuttgart by public transportaion and was wondering if the club is in fact acessable by the S-trains or even a you-train, if so what stop you would need to get off and how long a walk it would take to get there. If it is not possible to take public transportation to the club and walk there, I assume one could get off at the airport by taking the S3 and then take a cab there. Does anyone know how much a cab would cost to get there. Any information would be helpful.
I stayed at Movenpick airport hotel, and went that clubs twice. I always paid 10 to 12 Euro, taxi fare, one way. It takes only a few minutes from airport by cab.
My first discovery of that club was back in last September.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=825684&postcount=1956
This year, in February, the club was one year old and the furnitures, rooms and the facilities still looks brand new and clean. I viewed a documentary saying they invested 6 m Euro for the decoration of the house, much more than Artemis.
My first impression was to go to FKK Haus on Wednesday, because in Paradise, wednesday is the dessous tag and I don't like that shit. But somehow, I should stick with Paradise (business meeting was longer than I expected and my hotel was in the airport Stuttgart). So, instead of killing time to go to Fellbach, I was in Paradise in five minutes with the cab. (I am happy I didn't go to FKK Haus, because it would be a vain discovery for me. This club is transformed into an partytreff house, which I will visit next September)
In Paradise, I paid the 69 Euro entrance fee with my credit card (both days), so I had more cash in the pocket to enyoj with the girls. I asked the lady in the counter how the system works, if I would like to spend only two hours. She explained me; you pay the 69 Euro, the timing of your entrance is memorized (I assume) into your magnetic key and if you want to exit the club in two hours, you get your 29 Euro back. This two hours offer is only valid in the early afternoon. Your expenses for the alcoholic drinks is also memorized on your magnetic key and you pay for them while checking out the club. Therefore, the girls usualy try to make you buy drinks for them, like they usualu do in Lancelot.
When I get in the club the first night at 7.30 pm, the dinner was already served. The food was worse then my previous visit last year. This time, the hot dishes is not self service, and there is no fish such crabs or shrimps like I had last time.
The facilities was still good with nice sauna, snow room and fine jacuzzi. This time, I also spend some time into the steam bath.
THE GIRLS I HAD
Maria;
First night, I started with an elderly looking Italian girl. She rarely speak Italian so I doubt she is from Italy but she doesn't have a look of a Romanian, too. She said she is from Sicilia island. She had blond hair, nice body, and she has nice, long, slow, deep throat. I may recommend her because of her skills in the bed and for her deep throat.
I wait a bit too long for the second session. I made some conversation with a nice, big, chubby Hungarian girl named Janette, but we couldn't hook somehow. Maybe I was intrigued with her, because she was one of the few girls totally naked that lingerie night.
Later, I had another short and chubby Romanian girl Gabi (her pictures in the web)
http://www.saunaclubstuttgart.de/index.php?p=girlsdetail&hid=109&go=1
Gabriella;
Romanian short and chubby girl. Nice service in the room but was a bit in a hurry and short session (or I explode too early), but it was still a nice session.
My third and last session of the first day was another Romanian girl named Bianca.
http://www.saunaclubstuttgart.de/index.php?p=girlsdetail&hid=604
She was slim and pretty. We had nice session upstairs, she does good BBBJ and she kisses good, and she asked me if I wanted to cum into her mouth. I said it is extra, she told it is only 25 Euro (last year, it was 50, so it is time for our fellow friend Basket Case to venture this place) but I declined. After 15 min of pumping her, she started to complain and wanted me to cum, so I blow the condom in 20 minutes.
All three sessions of first night was nice, all the girls I choose were good kissers and they have a nice skills of BBBJ. I didn't see any girl who decline BJ without condom, like I saw last month in Bruschal.
The second day, I entered the club at 11.15 am, I was the first customer. I had some breakfast within the girls. Some girls were gambling in the machines next to the bar. As I was the only target, the girls started to hit on me. I started with a Spanish girl from Majorica (Las Palmas exactly)
Angie (or Angelina) from Spain,
She was a bit pale skinned and slim to my taste, her boobs were too smalls but naturals. She only had shallow kisses but we had fun in the room.
Second victim of that afternoon was another hispanic girl from Dominicana.
Salome, She had nice big natural breasts that I fell in love with;
http://www.saunaclubstuttgart.de/index.php?p=girlsdetail&hid=38
I had her in mind the night before, because she kissed me good on the couch. I though we will had the same level of service the second day as well, upstairs, in the rooms. While we are in, she asked me whether I want a standart service or full service which cost 100 Euro. I choose the regular service for 50 Euro. Even that one was also full service but she didn't kiss me like she does the night before. I couldn't finish in 30 min so she nade me a nice HJ.
My time was running out, I had to catch my flight so I though it was time to relax. I had several hits from several girls but one black chick from Jamaica (which speaks fluent English and which I forget her name) set by me to have a conversation. Then she occupied with my Johnny and over the couch, she started to give shallow kisses to my little friend. It was the moment for a last time to go for a room. As I was too exhausted, she promise me she will do everything and all I have to do is to lay back and relax. It started all that way in the room, but later, I couldn't stop myself to jump into her and fuck her hard (even she wasn't my favorite type, I am not into slim girls). We made more or less 30 min into the room, then she ask my permission to receive a long distance phone call. Time was running. When we go to the locker room, she told we stayed more than half an hour in the room. I gave her 50 Euro, because the excess time was for her phone calls.
Total damage of both days;
138 Euro for club entrance
300 Euro for girls I had
45 Euro for taxis from/to hotel and to the airport
483 Euro for two days in Paradise, the joy I had like me as a sultan with beautiful girls all around the world is priceless.
Fazit: Paradise is a nice, clean club. The facilities are great and fresh. Even in midweek, you may find 40 to 50 girls, most of them are pretty. And I also liked the variety of the girls, not only the Romanians, but you may find nice Hungarians, Chezch, Polish, German, Hispanic, Latin and Carribean girls, a bit for all taste. I was a bit disappointed the second morning, to see the same girls of the night before. There is no obviously two shifts there, because girls have nice lodge on the upper floors, which we don't see. The girls were less sharky attitude this year, compared to last year and they are not that sticky, too.
The club is a bit down after 1.00 am in late evening and they have loud music after midnight. After midnight, hordes of guy also come with groups to drink.
The rooms are cleaned after every session but I have some doubt about the cleanliness of the girls. As the rooms and the ladies rooms are all upstairs, after the session, they beg you one minute to clean themselves rapidly and turn you back to pick you up and go to the locker room, to collect their Euro. Therefore, they don't have to climb the stairs again to do a proper cleaning. Just a though !
As the FKK Haus is RIP now, the only competition in the neighbouring are is with FKK Stuttgart and FKK Sakura. But I guess they won't reach the classy atmosphere of Paradise. The only con, you don't have an outdoor garden in such a Paradise.
Oh. If you are looking for a specific girl, they have a check-in system for girls in their web page. You may see which girl will be present before hitting the club.
Basketcase
08-20-09, 23:55
My third and last session of the first day was another Romanian girl named Bianca.
http://www.saunaclubstuttgart.de/index.php?p=girlsdetail&hid=604
She was slim and pretty. We had nice session upstairs, she does good BBBJ and she kisses good, and she asked me if I wanted to cum into her mouth. I said it is extra, she told it is only 25 Euro (last year, it was 50, so it is time for our fellow friend Basket Case to venture this place) but I declined. After 15 min of pumping her, she started to complain and wanted me to cum, so I blow the condom in 20 minutes.
All three sessions of first night was nice, all the girls I choose were good kissers and they have a nice skills of BBBJ. I didn't see any girl who decline BJ without condom, like I saw last month in Bruschal.
Creature2,
You are quite correct that I should spend some time heading further out south than Golden Time and Oase. With FKK Paradise offering CIM service at €25 then makes it an incentive to come even though the entry price is €69 since you get that back the difference in entry price in your first CIM finish compared to the Hessen clubs where CIM is €50 extra.
Bianca (Romania) has a look I like being slim and pretty. I can see this from her pictures. Who score goes up more especially if she does CIM service. Her catelog of services also includes anal. Is it €100 for anal sex or is it €50 extra like in NRW.
I would also be interested in the ice cave that Paraside has in lieu of an outdoor area to cool off after a sauna.
I think there are some cheap flights to the Stuttgart area so a visit may be on the cards!!!
Grtz,
.
Is it €100 for anal sex or is it €50 extra like in NRW.
Hi BC, I really don't know the price of that extra. But I know in this area (Stuttgart, Karslruhe and the rest of BAden Wurtemberg) anal is much more offered (as an extra) by girls than the other parts of Germany.
And there are fine clubs in this area where girls offer that extra as low as 30 Euro!
Devil Frog
09-05-09, 14:46
I am coming to the area for a business trip for my first time ever this upcoming week. I will be staying in the Millenium Hotel. Can I get some good pointers about Paradise.
How far from Hotel
Can I drive (I have a rental but never drove in Germany)
How much in USD will it cost to get in?
Should I bring cash or will credit work?
If I take a Taxi what do I tell them to get me there?
Any pointers will be appreciated.
Or would it be easier to just find a local walker for my night time fun.
Thanks
I am coming to the area for a business trip for my first time ever this upcoming week. I will be staying in the Millenium Hotel. Can I get some good pointers about Paradise.
How far from Hotel
Based on Google maps, it's only 5kms.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=L1205%2FPlieninger+Str.&daddr=L1205%2FPlieninger+Str.+to:Unknown+road+to:48.721646,9.163542+to:Gutenbergstra%C3%9Fe&geocode=FZRz5wIdrM2LAA%3BFZxy5wIdfdaLAA%3BFbx85wId3t-LAA%3B%3BFQoR5wIdw9CLAA&hl=en&mra=dme&mrcr=0&mrsp=3&sz=16&via=1,2,3&sll=48.722693,9.167233&sspn=0.006087,0.015836&ie=UTF8&ll=48.714751,9.177532&spn=0.048703,0.126686&t=h&z=13
Can I drive (I have a rental but never drove in Germany)
Driving there is very simple. Taxi is the next best thing.
How much in USD will it cost to get in?
Should I bring cash or will credit work?
It's 69 euros, about 100 dollars. There are several "Geldautomats" / ATMs in the hotel and in the club. I've never had an issue using an American ATM card or VISA credit card to retrieve funds. Bring only euro cash.
If I take a Taxi what do I tell them to get me there?
Any pointers will be appreciated.
Or would it be easier to just find a local walker for my night time fun.
Thanks
A taxi would be the best solution if you're nervous about driving. There are always taxis out in front of the hotel. Just get in the taxi and say FKK Paradise. The club is only 5kms away and I guarantee they're heard of the place. Shouldn't cost too much.
Have fun
How much in USD will it cost to get in?
Should I bring cash or will credit work?
Thanks
The entrance is 69 Euro for whole day and 39 Euro for 2 hours visits. You may pay the entrance fee by your credit card and they will not charge you any commission (I have done that four times, it is secure).
For the girls, you should have Euro cash with you. It is better to have several 50 Euros notes and some small notes for 20, 10 and 5 Euro (if you would like to buy some extras). It is better to withdraw cash in some ATM's (Germans says GELDAUTOMAT) on downtown, but as I recall well, there should be another Geldautomat inside the club, next to the counter. But it is better to bring your own cash to the club. There is a dijital numeric safe inside each locker.
If you consume some alcoholic for you and for the girls, you give your magnetic locker key and they charge your account and you pay it while checking-out. (The girls are sometimes pushy in order you to buy for them, this is a shity Baden Wurtemberg club bad habit, but my advice, don't buy them alcohol and tell them you don't drink. A drinking girl will not be fun in the room)
Visited FKK Paradise in Stuttgart for the first time this saturday.
Sending in this report just to leave some info to others that might want to visit the place and look for recent reports. Before this I only visited Artemis in Berlin (quite a few times) and Colosseum in Augsburg (once).
Won't get in the details about the girls I met because I think it's very personal and therefore useless.
Paradise is definitely a very nice club. All facilities are very new, clean and in perfect shape.
In the main floor a very large area with sofa's and many spots where to relax and wait for the girls.
A restaurant with fine food, a bar. Jacuzzi, couple of saunas, showers, a Kino where you can have action with the girls, a TV room where you can take a break and watch some normal tv. No swiming pool. Good music all the time. Other facilities that I probably don't remember.
The locker room (where you leave clothes etc.) is very nice. Each locker contains an electronic safe where you can store money and other stuff.
At the first floor are the rooms, the best I saw ever in the FKK I visited. Very very large. There's also a chillout room where you can phone with your mobile or relax staying away from the action. I didn't visit it.
All personal was very friendly and professional.
Girls
Can't say the exact number, probably 40/50. More than enough.
IMHO the lineup was not Artemis level (at least for the Artemis of around 6 month ago). I'll be there in mid october.
Still a lot of beautiful girls. Lots from eastern europe but also a lot of german girls. The one I appreciated more was a Romanian.
Girls come up and ask if you want sex but where never too aggressive.
Rates:
50 euro for half hour sex. BJ (no condom)
+ 50 euro CIM (all offered)
+ 100 anal (never asked but 1 offered)
We had a good time.
Ciao
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Paradise is definitely a very nice club. All facilities are very new, clean and in perfect shape.
In the main floor a very large area with sofa's and many spots where to relax and wait for the girls.
A restaurant with fine food, a bar. Jacuzzi, couple of saunas, showers, a Kino where you can have action with the girls, a TV room where you can take a break and watch some normal tv. No swiming pool. Good music all the time. Other facilities that I probably don't remember.
The locker room (where you leave clothes etc.) is very nice. Each locker contains an electronic safe where you can store money and other stuff.
At the first floor are the rooms, the best I saw ever in the FKK I visited. Very very large. There's also a chillout room where you can phone with your mobile or relax staying away from the action. I didn't visit it.
Now this is a place I wouldn't mind attending a party. The place is huge. Just the upstairs chill out areas amongst the rooms are larger than the indoor spaces of most clubs. It's easy to get lost in there. Though during my first visit a year and a half ago, the lineup wasn't that great.
IMHO the lineup was not Artemis level (at least for the Artemis of around 6 month ago). I'll be there in mid october.
Still a lot of beautiful girls. Lots from eastern europe but also a lot of german girls. The one I appreciated more was a Romanian.
Girls come up and ask if you want sex but where never too aggressive.
Rates:I have not been to Paradise but will make a visit in the next 2-3 months. One thing I would like to mention is that I have seen Melli before at Artemis. German girl with lots of tats, fake tits (which she did not have when working at Artemis) and a great attitude. She instantly became one of my ATFs (definitely top 3). She is game for anything. The second time I saw her, she remembered my buddy and I from our previous (separate) sessions with her. We decided to get a bottle of champagne and she hung out with us for most of her shift (on a fairly busy Saturday night)
My buddy and I each had 2 sessions with her that night. In between, I sessioned with 2 others. She is open to public play. She gave me a BBBJ on one of the couches near the bar while my friend fingered her (very public part of the club). After she and I came back from one of the rooms upstairs, she cleaned up and within 30 min was fucking my friend right there on the couch. Most of the public action at Artemis happens in the cinema. Very rare in the main bar area. She got a nice crowd watching her. The other girls were just as surprised as the customers.
Anyway, I highly recommend a session with her. You can find her pic on their website. Seems like she is the #1 girl there since her picture is the first one up when she is working.
I have not been to Paradise but will make a visit in the next 2-3 months. One thing I would like to mention is that I have seen Melli before at Artemis. German girl with lots of tats, fake tits (which she did not have when working at Artemis) and a great attitude. She instantly became one of my ATFs (definitely top 3). She is game for anything. The second time I saw her, she remembered my buddy and I from our previous (separate) sessions with her. We decided to get a bottle of champagne and she hung out with us for most of her shift (on a fairly busy Saturday night)
I agree, Melli is a cool girl. Met her on my first visit to Paradise about a year and a half ago. This too was pre implants. Recommended if all the tats don't turn you off.
beffen
“verily, for the righteous there will be a fulfilment of their hearts’ desires; they will recline on green cushions, whose inner linings will be of rich brocade, and on rich carpets of beauty. the fruits of the gardens will be near and easy of reach. and they will drink from goblets, shining beakers and cups filled with cool water from clear-flowing fountains: no after-ache will they receive therefrom, nor will they suffer intoxication. and they will eat fruits, any that they may select, and the meat of fowls, any that they may desire.
and they will have companions, good, beautiful, bashful, dark-eyed houris, as chaste as the sheltered eggs of ostriches, with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes; young, full-breasted maidens, beloved by nature, of equal age, like rubies and coral, sheltered in tents, pure and undefiled; dark-eyed virgins whom neither man nor jinn have touched before-“
that’s what paradise is like?
thus quoth the prophet.
and what must the ordinary mortal do to get there?
thou, oh disbeliever, thou who doest not take heed to the writs of holy q’uran, never shallt thou reach such state of bliss unless thou taketh the a8-freeway, exit #52 and proceed to dieselstr. in leinfelden-echterdingen, whereupon thou shallt see a large, red building with the inscription “paradise”, and there you are…
the venue is bloody easy to find: just turn right at the first roundabout after the exit, turn right into the next street, which is dieselstraße, named after the great inventor. spacious parking lot.
i checked in on a sunday in october at about 7 pm, paid my dues (€69.-), received my locker key attached to a ribbon which here is carried round the neck, another pink ribbon was fixed around my right wrist, then i was offered a purplish-brown bathrobe, which here is considered the normal attire for male guests (brown bears instead of polar bears as in some nrw-clubs?) and which i reclined. i prefer just a towel wrapped around my hips.
after changing clothes and a shower (showers very clean and in mint condition, lockers of sufficient size, i even understood how to activate the code of the small safe incorporated into the locker) back to the friendly receptionist, who introduced me to a tall, high-breasted, dark-haired beauty who offered to be the newbies dante to the inferno – sorry about the malapropism, my angel showing me round paradise.
the premises mainly consist of the great hall, which is decorated in turkish-oriental style, with lots of sofas and couches draped with embroidered cushions, on which about two dozens of lovely houris were lolling around, and a glance into the cinema revealed a naked, happy, loving couple fooling around rather unashamedly, good prospects, i thought.
what struck me rather negatively was that, though sunday is officially not “dessous-tag”, most girls were wearing at least some flimsy rags round their hips. one beauty was even wearing a though tight-fitting and revealing mini-dress with probably nothing underneath, another one a short, black top, but at least her nether regions were uncovered. hardly any really naked girls. add to that the bathrobes of the customers, and you can imagine that yours truly was missing the true fkk-feeling. later i found out that the management does not impose a dress-code on the girls, they are allowed to wear what they like. hhmm.
after having thanked my guide i retired to the bar to drink some water and sample visually the software. not bad, really, apart from the aforementioned drawbacks. a lithe elf started a bit of pole-dancing, but though her performance was quite raunchy, she did not remove her thong. weak applause.
testing the highly-praised paradise cuisine was the next thing on the agenda. three choices of meat (i opted for a grilled chicken leg), mixed veggies, french fries or fried potatoes (i chose the latter), salad buffet, fruit as dessert. not bad, but definitely not haute cuisine. welcome to the canteen.
while munching a bit self-consciously, i was watching a young, petite girl, her dark blond hair bound back in a small pony tail, devouring greedily a huge helping. anyone having seen the film “moll flanders” of 1965 vintage knows that a girl biting heartily into a chicken leg and afterwards sucking off the raw bones has a penchant for other carnal delights as well. she was wearing a ribbon about three inches wide around her hips, so at least nearly fkk. with delight i watched her invitingly swinging narrow hips and her small posterior when bringing her rapidly emptied plate back to the counter. our eyes met. i bit the bait.
back to the bar i had to find out that the receptionist obviously had applied a bumper sticker to my right shoulder blade, unbeknownst to its bearer, reading “old, ugly, poor, perverse, impotent”, as your humble servant was obviously shunned by the cornucopia of the skimpily-clad ladies around.
so i made up my mind: tonight it should be the little, hungry dove i had watched while dining. i found her sitting relaxed on one of the sofas, chatting happily with three of her sisters and i addressed her:
“hi, sweet pea, you’re so beautiful, what’s your name?” “paloma.” “where are you from?” “you say.” the features of her pretty face, her big, dark eyes and her sensual mouth suggested some south european country, so i said “maybe spain?” “no, croatia.” so i started trying to do some small talk with her about her native country, but to no avail. “you speak funny english. i no understand.”
paloma
croatia
in her early twenties
about 5’6”
slender, petite, natural b’s
looks as if exercising
dark blond hair, short pony tail
no piercings nor tattoos.
had been working in paradise just for three weeks.
i told her she should wait for me, i would be back in ten minutes, as i wanted to freshen up a bit. back from the showers i found her happily chatting with her croation sisters, and when i was standing before her she leant back, pulled the ribbon up to her waist, spread her legs and started grinding her hips. “you like my pussy?” sure, i did like her epilated delights.
i tried to get back to the basics. “do you kiss?” big question marks in her beautiful, dark eyes. hesitatingly: “yes…?” “will you join me for a nice session in the kino?” “???” “will you fuck with me in the cinema?” “cinema? no. only room.” at least here i should have called it quits. oh man, men can be so dumb. instead i offered her three units for one hour plus cim.
at once she ushered me upstairs to room #24. too dark for my taste. no mirror on the ceiling. yours truly now expected a wee bit of conversation, maybe about croatia and the lovely nudist beaches there, some nice cuddling and dfking, but little dove had different things in mind. without any preliminaries she started blowing me, not bad, but a little bit deeper and with less manipulation (i mean it literally, from latin manus = hand) would have been welcome. no tongue contact with my balls.
when i wanted to kiss her she pressed her lips together, so when i tried to make her feel a bit more at ease by nibbling at her lobe and whispering words of love into her ear she protested. “you can kiss my body, but not face. my make-up.” ooops, her interpretation of the word “kissing” seems to be a little bit different from mine. apparently a semantic problem.
okeydokey, you can’t get everything you want. soon she wrapped my appendix in rubber and off we went, first some nice cowgirl, then doggie-style. not bad either, especially when i started fingering the little nodule between her nether lips. she started moaning and pressed my fingers firmly against her crotch. she climaxed fairly loud, but whether real or faked remains a mystery. i would suggest the latter.
new position, a bit of mish, but that is, to my mind, a very intimate and tender position, you want to embrace and kiss your partner. if that is denied, soon negative vibrations start creeping up which sometimes (?) may serve as a softening agent…
ok, she eventually made me hard again and cum in her mouth, as had been contractually agreed upon by both sides involved, but the whole session did not only leave a bad (?) taste in her but in my mouth as well, especially as our performance had lasted about 45 minutes. we went down to the lockers. until now the girls had laid their arms lovingly round my hips or we had been striding along happily hand in hand to show each other’s affection, even if it be only an illusion, but not so with little dove. before i could grab her hand the elusive bird had escaped. positive though: she waited at some distance from where she could not see the combination of the safe. as i observed this with other girls, too, it seems to be normal practice in paradise. laudable.
hardly had she received her remuneration when she darted off to continue chatting with the croatian faction. seldom in my life had i felt so superfluous.
if you expect just the standard fkk-session from a young, pretty gal, little dove is recommended. if you want the gf6-illusion including tender cuddling, soggy deep kisses and outstanding bbbj-skills, forget her. mind you: i know these things are normally not included in the standard service, but until now i always got them. perhaps i had just been damn lucky…
so i headed for the showers, (incidentally something which deemed little dove to be unnecessary), went to the bar again to get a cappuccino, watched a nice belly-dance performance to some turkish-sounding music by a lithe, slender and petite brunette, again quite raunchy, but in such an environment i expect the bikini-top and panties being discarded during the show, but as they stayed in place i could have watched a shakira-video instead. yeah, shakira belly-dancing stark naked, that would be something…
i checked out.
summary: paradise’s exquisite facilities cannot compensate for the fact that the true fkk-feeling (completely naked girls and at least half-naked men) does not creep up. i think the voyeuristic factor, i.e. ogling at girls’ naked butts and shaved pussies is an inherent ingredient of the true fkk-experience.
"they will recline on green cushions, whose inner linings will be of rich brocade, and on rich carpets of beauty." yep.
"and they will drink from goblets, shining beakers and cups filled with cool water from clear-flowing fountains: no after-ache will they receive therefrom, nor will they suffer intoxication. and they will eat fruits, any that they may select, and the meat of fowls, any that they may desire." very much so.
"and they will have companions, good, beautiful, bashful, dark-eyed houris, with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes; young, full-breasted maidens…" absolutely, the latter especially thanks to the achievements of cosmetic surgery.
"pure and undefiled; dark-eyed virgins whom neither man nor jinn have touched before-" definitely not so!!!
to everybody having read so far: thanks for your perseverance, and excuse any grammatical or spelling mistakes,
your humble servant,
xenon u
ps.: perhaps due to my experiences with little dove this report may sound a bit negatively biased. had i met a girl like melli or any other perfect fellatrix that would have given me the illusion of deep, unconditional and tender love, my impressions might have been different.
Thank you for the great and highly entertaining report, mate!
Appreciate your editing skills combined with a sound all-around education and a highly developed sense of humour.
Keep it rockin'!
Thank you for the great and highly entertaining report.
(Blushing) You're very welcome. X_U
I have not had the opportunity to visit club Paradise. I live in Stuttgart Germany though I am currently on vacation in the states. I just learned that the main FKK I visit, FKK Haus is no more. I have read the previous posts about Paradise and am very intrigued about visiting the club. I mostly travel in Stuttgart by public transportaion and was wondering if the club is in fact acessable by the S-trains or even a you-train, if so what stop you would need to get off and how long a walk it would take to get there. If it is not possible to take public transportation to the club and walk there, I assume one could get off at the airport by taking the S3 and then take a cab there. Does anyone know how much a cab would cost to get there. Any information would be helpful.
Paradise is asolutely doable by public transport. Unfortunately, I visited more than a year and a half ago and so do not remember the precise station stop, it would be in or near Leinfelden -Echterdingen. From the S-bahn stop it's no more than a 10 minute walk to the club. You should be able to pinpoint it using Google maps.
beffen
Paradise is asolutely doable by public transport. Unfortunately, I visited more than a year and a half ago and so do not remember the precise station stop, it would be in or near Leinfelden -Echterdingen. From the S-bahn stop it's no more than a 10 minute walk to the club. You should be able to pinpoint it using Google maps.
beffen
Take the S2 or S3 to the airport/messe. Exit Echterdingen, then it is indeed no more than a 10 m walk (~ 1 km).
Club is very easy to find also by car. Not far from the A8 exit.
Regards,
Big30
Attached map shows FKK Paradise (on the left top corner) and S-Bahn station Echterdingen.
Hi,
I am headed to Stuttgart in a couple of weeks and will hit Paradise on a Friday or Sunday. I read thru the reports but there is not much current info. Does anyone have any recommendations for girls to see? I am hoping Melli will be working but looking for a few others to keep an eye out for.
Thanks
Basketcase
01-06-10, 02:32
Attached map shows FKK Paradise (on the left top corner) and S-Bahn station Echterdingen.Thank you Sportsman for the map. I am hoping to make a visit to Paradise with my group of sex club visiting friends in middle of February.
I have put it in my Sat Nav so that makes it easier for the drive. Yes?
I shall read the thread for advice.
Thank you Sportsman for the map. I am hoping to make a visit to Paradise with my group of sex club visiting friends in middle of February.
I have put it in my Sat Nav so that makes it easier for the drive. Yes?
I shall read the thread for advice.Ciao Weyfarere.
Did you visit Paradise? I was looking for fresh info.
Been there last year and liked it a lot. Just went back to Artemis and it was nice as usual!
Ciao
Basketcase
02-26-10, 09:37
Ciao Weyfarere.
Did you visit Paradise? I was looking for fresh info.
Been there last year and liked it a lot. Just went back to Artemis and it was nice as usual!
CiaoHey Kimino,
No, I did not visit Paradise recently, but I do want to go visit this club. I knows girls that work in Hessen club that come from Paradise. If those girls are representative of Paradise girls then I want to go visit. Lots of good German girls is what I have met.
My opportunity to go to Paradise was lost due to distance. I will try again when I have next opportunity to do so. Maybe early March when I have 3 day visit or late March when I have 4 day visit or April during Easter when I have 4 day visit.
Right now all I have is this weekend visit to Hessen club with my friends.
Ciao for now
Hi,
I visited paradise last Tuesday. There were lots of girls, but very few men.
Try to avoid the Romanian girls, as they generally do not give you a good service.
Food was very good, location is great, and, if you stick to the German girls, you have a wonderful time!
American BBQ jeden Dienstag im Paradise American BBQ every Tuesday in Paradise
American BBQ ab dem 11.05.2010 jeden Dienstag im Paradise und ab Juni natürlich im neuen Außenbereich frisch vom Grill, Spare-Ribs, Würstchen, Steaks und vieles Mehr. American BBQ from 05/11/2010 every Tuesday at the Paradise in June and of course in the new outdoor fresh from the grill, spare ribs, sausages, steaks and much more.
In June we opened our new outdoor for all sun-seeking guests. Zudem werden wir über den Sommer regelmäßig grillen und natürlich unsere große Sommerparty feiern. We will also grill on a regular basis and celebrate the summer, of course, our big summer party. Bis bald im neuen Außenbereich, See you soon in the new outdoor
Saw these two reports on the Paradise website...the first comment about the bbq suggests the outdoor area is being used to grill...the second suggests that an outdoor area will be opened in June. Is 'june' this june or last june?
Saw these two reports on the Paradise website...the first comment about the bbq suggests the outdoor area is being used to grill...the second suggests that an outdoor area will be opened in June. Is 'june' this june or last june?Hello Breadman,
I can tell you was not last June at all, because I went to Paradise Stuttgart last August and I didn't find any outdoor area. I think it's a great club, very well built, between Palace Frankfurt and Artemis Berlin, very high quality club facilities and the upper floor was so big to discover, a labirynth of rooms.
Hessen Bub
05-13-10, 13:38
They will open a big outside area on top of the parking place and on top of the back part of the club. Construction is underway.
HB
Basketcase
05-23-10, 14:54
I have been visiting Stuttgart Paradise more of late since the crew have decided to make their way here as a part of the FKK visit trail.
For those that do know, this is a huge club with lots and lots of rooms and space to relax all over. It is in the style of Palace being opulent inside and themed on a middle eastern harem.
I hung out with some Turkish guys and one was called "Mr Paradise" since he knew all the girls, parentage / nationalities, their quirks and recommendations. We sat in the sauna for ages together since the sauna has a large open full lenght window onto the main room which you can sit and chat together and admire the women going by.
I took a blond Romanian called Nancy to the room and I was charged 150 euro for one hour including COB all over her breasts. She also wanted champagne so I got her some of the wet stuff. I had been warned that Baden Wurtemberg had a tendency for the champagne extra and I was prepared to take that into account. It seems this area like Bayern is a wealthy part of Germany.
We sat in a nice quiet area in the smoking room while I fondled her. She was perfect. She models lingerie and does cat walk. Her breasts are perfectly shaped D cups and she was tall and leggy as well with green / brown eyes to match her long blond hair. Nancy used to work at Colosseum in Augsburg and this was her first day in the club. She is 1.7 metres tall with a superb arse that I loved to fondle.
She also danced a few times on the podium and did an excellent job dancing. She reminded me of a dancer I used to see back home and I would drop hundreds and hundreds of currency units a night on that dancer. She was Irish and was busty, leggy blond and blue eyed and use to model for page 3 of my home's equivalent of the German newspaper called Bild. This dancer was Romanian.
We had a great sessions, she made me lie on the bed and she slowing used her finger tips on me and paced some ointment that burned on my forehead to, "arouse me," she said. She then started to suck my cock and lick my balls. Then I got up and we had a bit of light kissing, she blew me some more and then I licked her out until she came really hard. Boy she came and came. She said she came three times during the 20 minutes I licked her out.
Nancy then said it was my turn to come and so she made me lay back for a blow job. She sucked well and gave me attention to my balls. She asked if we have sex and I asked for her to continue blowing me. Then it was time for sex and we fucked in cowgirl, missionary and doggie style. I tired and so it was off with the condom for some fondling and manual stimulation rubbing up against each other's bodies.
I then opted for a tit fuck so I could finish on her heavenly D cup breasts that are perfectly shaped. I humped away in between her breasts and came in buckets all over her chest. Nancy was real porn star and lay there looking at the come dribbling across her chest and then she started playing with the come and rubbing into her breasts. Nancy said it was a nice lubricant and moisturiser. I helped her out taking my own come in my hands and manipulating her breasts with the viscous liquid rubbing my come into those luscious mounds.
Nancy and I then cleaned up and we sat on the couch in the room whereby Nancy gave me a lapdance while I felt her up. A much better lapdance than you get in a table dancing club back home since I could touch this naked girl all over and feel her sex, her breasts and her arse.
Nancy then said the one hour was up and it was time to go.
I saw a few other girls I knew in the Paradise club and I will hopefully see them again when I come back.
My crew friend has been back at Paradise several times without me so I need to catch him back up with the number of visits to Paradise.
Hessen Bub
05-23-10, 19:14
I took a blond Romanian to the room and I was charged 150 euro for one hour including COB all over her breasts.
We sat in a nice quiet area in the smoking room while I fondled her. She was perfect. She models lingerie and does cat walk. Her breasts are perfectly shaped C cups and she was tall and leggy as well with green eyes to match her long blond hair.
Her name? Maybe you find her on the check-in system at www.the-paradise.de
HB
Basketcase
05-23-10, 19:45
Her name? Maybe you find her on the check-in system at www.the-paradise.de
Hi Hessen Bub,
I have updated my report with more details of the session and a name now. The girl was Nancy (ro). She said she would be at Paradise only for a short while. She was real cool, telling me about her assets.
She was really beautiful to me.
Basketcase
06-10-10, 20:40
paradise - as i do visit the club on a regular basis most of the girls have seen me before and do not push or bother me too much. throughout the summer the club might be a little quiet as the outdoor facilities are not open yet. mo, tu and we are slowerm thursday it does pick up and on friday/saturday it should be quite busy. does not differ that much from artemis, palace or oase. hessen bub,
nice to know someone visits fkk paradise in stuttgart regularly. i did not find the girls that pushy for the rooms or the kino for that matter! no more than what you get at palace, oase or world in the state of hesse.
actually, the kino is very well set out with a tiered seating manner similar to the set up at fkk palace in frankfurt am main city. from the high up mattress at the back you have a grand view of the tiered mattresses below of couples sucking and fucking.
i do like the quiet areas upstairs for relaxing or taking your girl for some chat before going to the room or just watching porn on the several wide screen televisions rep001tered around upstairs with ample comfortable seating.
i agree with you that it is the weekends, maybe from say thursday but definitely picking up on friday and saturday is when you get the most customers and also the most girls working. mondays, tuesdays and wednesdays are not so busy. as you say, it is the same in other clubs in hesse, even the ever busy golden time in bruggen is the same.
i find the girls at paradise to be a good mix but similar to most clubs have a weighting for the romanians. it is interesting to see girls that i have seen working at golden time, oase or palace now working at paradise. the girls do get around the clubs of germany, switzerland and spain. maybe even stints in the laufhaus or the redlight districts too you come across the same fkk girls. i guess the girls go where the money is or go where the direction says they go.
They will open a big outside area on top of the parking place and on top of the back part of the club. Construction is underway.
HBAny information on the outdoor area's completion date?
Hessen Bub
07-15-10, 11:03
Any information on the outdoor area's completion date?Check the homepage. They talk about delays and that the outdoor area will not open before August.
HB
Member #4243
07-21-10, 01:05
Hi,
I'm mohab a 35yr old egyptian born in england. I am thinking about visiting Paradise stuttgart. I have 3 specific questions;
1. Is the club friendly to foreigners, ie arabic people non german, and are the customers of mixed races?
2. Roughly what is the cost of a taxi from central stuttgart to the club?
3. Finally I love german girls, and would like to know what is their quality like at Paradise, typical ages etc.
With this information I will be able to plan my trip, thanks loads Mohab.
Member #4243
07-21-10, 01:15
One other thing I need to know is are the girls in paradise always totally naked
Like other fkk clubs? This added dimension always makes the visits much more
Enjoyable. Thanks mohab
Basketcase
07-21-10, 09:35
One other thing I need to know is are the girls in paradise always totally naked
Like other fkk clubs? This added dimension always makes the visits much more
Enjoyable. Thanks mohab
Mohab,
Paradise is a FKK club. So the girls working as hookers will be naked. Some fo the girls will have some adornment like high heel shoes, earrings, or maybe a waist chain or even a muschi / pussy hider piece of material around them but the concept is that the breasts and pussy be exposed at least.
Incidentally I went to a normal FKK beach resort with normal people during my last visit. Real different in that you cannot fuck the women there and then again looking at them I would not want to. Nice day out taking a break from FKK fuck style clubs.
Basketcase
07-21-10, 09:46
Hi,
I'm mohab a 35yr old egyptian born in england. I am thinking about visiting Paradise stuttgart. I have 3 specific questions;
1. Is the club friendly to foreigners, ie arabic people non german, and are the customers of mixed races?
2. Roughly what is the cost of a taxi from central stuttgart to the club?
3. Finally I love german girls, and would like to know what is their quality like at Paradise, typical ages etc.
With this information I will be able to plan my trip, thanks loads Mohab.
Mohab there are responses to your questions:
1. Yes. There are many Turkish and / or middle eastern men or South Asian men in the club. I do not see much far east Asian men. I think the Romanian and Bulgarian girls really like the Turkic type men since the girls always seems to hang out with them and give them lots of social time and never seem to go to the room.
I cannot recall seeing African or Carribean men in the club but I expect they are welcome too at FKK Paradise like in any of the Hessen FKK clubs like Palace, Sharks, Das 5 Element, Mainhattan and World.
Some of us are there to fuck so I guess that shows in our demeanour and so we get little social time since all we want is business. I get a bit of social time but then I have to buy a prosecco or wine for the girl. Watch for this if you do not want to pay for the lady drinks. I also had to pay 2 euro for a cappucino but I think filter coffee is gratis so make sure you pick the right coffee if you do not want to pay. You pay by taking a charge to a chip on a plastic card that you are given when you pay to enter and you pay for the drinks when you leave the club.
2. I do not know cost of taxi since I can hire and drive a motor vehicle. You can take the train as well as the club is near a railway station and then a walk. There is a Holiday Inn hotel around the corner from the club if you want to stay the night.
3. FKK Paradise I noticed has a fairly good contingent of Deustch girls comparatively although Romanian girls are the mainstay. Look for the blonds and you are on a pretty good start for the local hookers, but remember German girls can also be dark haired too. The German girls will be a spectrum but expect to see some of the better specimens since it is a FKK and there is some quality control over which girls can make money. I mean I did not see any real dogs.
Travelerb69
07-21-10, 15:17
Mohab,
Incidentally I went to a normal FKK beach resort with normal people during my last visit. Real different in that you cannot fuck the women there and then again looking at them I would not want to. Nice day out taking a break from FKK fuck style clubs.
Hi BC,
Where is this FKK beach resort located? I am planning a trip this summer and would like to pay a visit.
Best regards, Tb69
Basketcase
07-21-10, 15:31
Hi BC,
Where is this FKK beach resort located? I am planning a trip this summer and would like to pay a visit.
Best regards, Tb69
The internet is your friend. If you type in FKK into your web browser heaps of these FKK lake and beach resorts come up. There are hundreds across Germany, Switzerland, France, UK, Austria, and also into Eastern Europe from what the central European girls tell me.
In Hessen, there is one in the Taunus hills where there is a family section by a swimming lake (the tourist office at Hessenpark helped me with that one) and then there is the more intimate naked lake further up where I got jiggy with my friend. There are fines if you are caught.
There is also a FKK resort but 6 minutes drive from FRA airport. It is interesting seeing the entire family at the beach all naked - mum, dad, children and their friends. I was quite cool with it all due to the FKK sex club experience but had to be careful not to get amorous as it was not the done thing. Also fotos is verboten and so are bikinis for women and pants for men.
Swimming starkers in the lake is cool too. No need for costumes.
I would not fuck any girls that I saw in a FKK resort. Not that they would have me and nor would they for 50 euro. Nice to get an all over tan at the beach and eat ice cream or a meal with naked people. A normal day to take a break from clubs but still FKK related would you believe. LOL. But you get naked sunbathing at a FKK sex club too. I do. No problem.
Basketcase
07-21-10, 15:42
The internet is your friend. If you type in FKK into your web browser heaps of these FKK lake and beach resorts come up. There are hundreds across Germany, Switzerland, France, UK, Austria, and also into Eastern Europe from what the central European girls tell me.
We even spoke to a local travel agent for details of local FKKs to go to to relax in with beach, or grass areas and restaurants. Germany rates highly for its naturism in the best places to live reviews for re-location of workers.
The one near the airport is really packed. Lots of women. It does not feel that sexy really once there. It was all about relaxing, reading your book, swimming and chatting.
Australiasucks
07-21-10, 15:56
mohab there are responses to your questions:
1. yes. there are many turkish and / or middle eastern men or south asian men in the club. i do not see much far east asian men. i think the romanian and bulgarian girls really like the turkic type men since the girls always seems to hang out with them and give them lots of social time and never seem to go to the room.
i cannot recall seeing african or carribean men in the club but i expect they are welcome too at fkk paradise like in any of the hessen fkk clubs like palace, sharks, das 5 element, mainhattan and world.
some of us are there to fuck so i guess that shows in our demeanour and so we get little social time since all we want is business. i get a bit of social time but then i have to buy a prosecco or wine for the girl. watch for this if you do not want to pay for the lady drinks. i also had to pay 2 euro for a cappucino but i think filter coffee is gratis so make sure you pick the right coffee if you do not want to pay. you pay by taking a charge to a chip on a plastic card that you are given when you pay to enter and you pay for the drinks when you leave the club.
2. i do not know cost of taxi since i can hire and drive a motor vehicle. you can take the train as well as the club is near a railway station and then a walk. there is a holiday inn hotel around the corner from the club if you want to stay the night.
3. fkk paradise i noticed has a fairly good contingent of deustch girls comparatively although romanian girls are the mainstay. look for the blonds and you are on a pretty good start for the local hookers, but remember german girls can also be dark haired too. the german girls will be a spectrum but expect to see some of the better specimens since it is a fkk and there is some quality control over which girls can make money. i mean i did not see any real dogs.in general, if turks are welcome in the club that means everyone is welcome. there are some clubs that welcome only germans, these are known as red carpet clubs and are mostly rep001tered near dusseldorf. some clubs might allow asian clients in addition to germans but not other nationalities.
Member #4243
07-21-10, 16:38
Paradise stuttgart looks like a top quality club from all angles. I cannot figure out
Why there are only 2-3 pages of reports in this thread, compared to other
Similar clubs, which have many more pages? Could someone enlighten me?
Thanks mohab
Is that allowed? Just doesn't seem right. Almost like fucking one of your cousins ;-)...its so easy to slip it in but when you look back at it you 'just know' its wrong...
On a serious note though, i'll be in town in just over two weeks and plan on heading south to visit fkk point, fkk piratespark, paradise, sukura and possibly fkk pascha if the mood gets me driving south.
The internet is your friend. If you type in FKK into your web browser heaps of these FKK lake and beach resorts come up. There are hundreds across Germany, Switzerland, France, UK, Austria, and also into Eastern Europe from what the central European girls tell me.
In Hessen, there is one in the Taunus hills where there is a family section by a swimming lake (the tourist office at Hessenpark helped me with that one) and then there is the more intimate naked lake further up where I got jiggy with my friend. There are fines if you are caught.
There is also a FKK resort but 6 minutes drive from FRA airport. It is interesting seeing the entire family at the beach all naked - mum, dad, children and their friends.The one near the airport is the Waldsee, located in Raunheim, and it's very well known in the FRA area.You're correct that it's about a 6 minute drive from the airport, but actually, as the bird flies, it's no more than 3-4 kilometers from the main runways. In fact, on most daytime flight take offs, you can see it very clearly out of your window as it's a huge very conspicuous strangely shaped man-made body of water in the middle of a woods.
Doing the jiggy with your friend at a family oriented nudist park? Would have made a great story if you were caught.
Policeman: "Judge, this foreigner was doing the jiggy at our family oriented resort."
Judge (to Basketcase): "We're tired of all you foreigners coming here and getting off on our wives. What do you have to say for yourself?"
Basketcase (to Judge): "Well it's cheaper than going to f*ck your daughters at Oase."
LOL!
Basketcase
07-21-10, 18:05
Is that allowed? Just doesn't seem right. Almost like fucking one of your cousins ;-)...its so easy to slip it in but when you look back at it you 'just know' its wrong...
Breadman,
It was an after thought addition to the post below it. I could not edit the post below it since the times to edit posts has been reduced to a hour or two so if you did not put all that you wanted to say you have to write another post. So to keep the continuity of the theme I quoted my own post. Alles Klar? Oder?
Going to the FKK resort for nude sunbathing and bathing was not my idea. In the end I was intrigued. Still it meant the entire trip was FKK related and on topic I guess.
Breadman,
Going to the FKK resort for nude sunbathing and bathing was not my idea. In the end I was intrigued. Still it meant the entire trip was FKK related and on topic I guess.Oh, come on, mannnnnnnnnnnnnnn: Are you saying that, once the sun went down, you didn't take your sunburnt ass down to Burgholzhausen for some "under-the-moon" nookie? No way you were so close to Oase and you elected to NOT dip your beak!
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Alles Klar? Oder?Just having some fun is all. We all know second cousins and below are fair game, right?
Hessen Bub
07-21-10, 21:40
Go to Waldsee Langen, south of Frankfurt. Nice FKK area.
http://www.waldsee-langen.de/c304/default.html
HB
Australiasucks
07-22-10, 03:52
I visited several non sex FKK sauna/swim clubs in Germany including Aqualand in Koln on its nude day. Trust me going to these places is nothing like going to an FKK brothel. Also any kind of lewd behavior can you get you in deep trouble in these places. Someone told me that the Friedrichsbad in Baden Baden might be something worth seeing but I never got the chance to see it.
I still would be careful in these establishments, some of them are also known as placing for gay men to cruise, especially the ones around Cologne.
Member #4243
07-22-10, 04:39
I am trying to fine tune my visit to stuttgart? The follwing info would be very helpful.
1) Cost of taxi from central Stuttgart to Paradise FKK?
2) Is paradise the best fkk in the stuttgart area? I heard about flamingo island etc? Are these other clubs on the same level as paradise, and are they as accessible by public transport/taxi as paradise is. Are the others worth a visit? Also I need taxis/trains as I do not drive.
3) Are the girls of the same beauty as artemis and frankfurt clubs? In paradise
4) Why are there only 4 pages on the paradise thread, compared to other fkks which have many more?
5) Finally sorry about the picky type nature of the above questions, I have never been to the stuttgart area, and in order to enjoy those beauties, homework has to come first!
Basketcase
07-22-10, 08:57
in general, if turks are welcome in the club that means everyone is welcome. there are some clubs that welcome only germans, these are known as red carpet clubs and are mostly rep001tered near dusseldorf. some clubs might allow asian clients in addition to germans but not other nationalities.
to clarify: asians include far east asians, south asians (india, pakistan, sri lankan), south east asians and near east asians right?
Australiasucks
07-22-10, 13:03
To clarify: Asians include far east Asians, south Asians (India, Pakistan, Sri Lankan), south east Asians and Near East Asians right?I meant East Asians.
Hessen Bub
07-22-10, 14:43
1) about 30€.
2) yes. It's the best in S. FI is in Karlsruhe
3) almost as good, depending on the day of the week.
4) cause it did open 2.5 years ago.
HB
Basketcase
07-22-10, 20:23
I meant East Asians.
So what you are saying is that not all Asians are treated the same. A question generally is why the different treatment?
A question to the all and maybe to the locals here that can provide their insight. Since the question of whether asians or non germans are welcome in the clubs is asked often so this may at least create the background information whereby reference can be made to answer their question in full and in context.
Thank you in advance for constructive contributions to this theme.
Australiasucks
07-22-10, 21:49
Most clubs that allow Turks will allow anyone in, there are a few clubs that are semi discriminatory and some that are completely so. The red carpet clubs are known not to allow any non Germans there are others that allow some other groups and its usually only East Asians that are the only non Europeans. A sister club of Bernd's, St. Augustine in Meindorf was one such club. I think Golden Time has a similar policy. Bernd's itself takes clients of all nationalities.
Member #4243
07-22-10, 22:16
Thank you Hessen bub, your info was spot on!
Basketcase
07-24-10, 00:43
Most clubs that allow Turks will allow anyone in, there are a few clubs that are semi discriminatory and some that are completely so. The red carpet clubs are known not to allow any non Germans there are others that allow some other groups and its usually only East Asians that are the only non Europeans. A sister club of Bernd's, St. Augustine in Meindorf was one such club. I think Golden Time has a similar policy. Bernd's itself takes clients of all nationalities.
Australiasucks,
Thank you for the summary on the perceived entry practice of some clubs in the sauna club and FKK scene. This is helpful and is a useful reference point when this question is raised in future.
My question is why do east Asians tend to have a better reception in some of these clubs that you mention but their fellow asians from the south, south east and the near east do not?
Swiss Monger
07-24-10, 01:26
What are the main differences between the clubs? I cant' decide?
Thanks friends.
Basketcase
07-24-10, 02:09
Oh, come on, mannnnnnnnnnnnnnn: Are you saying that, once the sun went down, you didn't take your sunburnt ass down to Burgholzhausen for some "under-the-moon" nookie? No way you were so close to Oase and you elected to NOT dip your beak!
Seriously, I did not go to Oase for those days. No need.
Basketcase
07-24-10, 02:14
Doing the jiggy with your friend at a family oriented nudist park? Would have made a great story if you were caught.
Policeman: "Judge, this foreigner was doing the jiggy at our family oriented resort."
Judge (to Basketcase): "We're tired of all you foreigners coming here and getting off on our wives. What do you have to say for yourself?"
Basketcase (to Judge): "Well it's cheaper than going to f*ck your daughters at Oase."
LOL!
Iseeu,
I was totally warned that it was not the done thing and there are serious reprecussions in Germany if we were caught. Another fantasy ticked off the list.
Maybe next fantasy is blond twins ... I wonder where I can find those? Maybe Golden Time with Hani (ro) and Nani (ro)?
I know of a Hungarian real sister pairing at Oase. Maybe that will do - a blond one and a brunette one.
Australiasucks
07-24-10, 03:22
Australiasucks,
Thank you for the summary on the perceived entry practice of some clubs in the sauna club and FKK scene. This is helpful and is a useful reference point when this question is raised in future.
My question is why do east Asians tend to have a better reception in some of these clubs that you mention but their fellow asians from the south, south east and the near east do not?It really depends upon you really at most clubs. I do not think being South Asian will hurt you. These women are there to make money and will make sure you have a good time.
East Asians tend to get a better reception in some clubs because there is a large Japanese expat population in the Ruhr area, particularly in Dusseldorf, many of them are wealthy executives working at Japanese companies in Germany. So their perceived as wealthy foreigners and that gives them some special status as welcome guests in Germany. In other words since they are affluent they are welcome in most clubs. South Asians are relatively new to Germany in comparison.
Hessen Bub
07-24-10, 22:02
What are the main differences between the clubs? I cant' decide?
Thanks friends.
Paradise is bigger with more and prettier girls, better food.
HB
Swiss Monger
07-26-10, 22:23
Woah, woah, woah. My balls are still hurting and I feel like walking on clouds; what a day it was at the FKK Paradise.
I decided to check out Paradise instead of Sakura this time and arrived shortly after 11:00 am. I was showed around by a receptionist and then by one of the early-bird girls (No.1); what was that about catching worms? :-)
I am leaving out the descriptions of the facilities but happy to summarize if needed / wanted. Compared to some clubs around Dusseldorf and around Zurich I am much impressed with size, layout and level of how clean it was.
No.1: We talked nicely and she was hot and offered a wide range of services so we went to the room after taking separate showers. It was nice and cuddly and I after some lengthy DATY it was my turn to lay back and enjoy.
Boy, what BJ technique and she was not afraid to check out the jewels and beyond,; yes: I was there less than 1 hr and had a tong around my ass. Something I never ask for but seem to happen around 5% of the time; why certain girls go for that, I have no idea.
I must explain that I am fully shaved and well groomed so that might certainly help. Well, it was nice and we did not even get to any fucking since I was fully "cocked". I took the option and had a nice view of her taking the "shot". At times I caught her being a bit professional but good service, no complains; especially with the fully service.
After Shower and steam bath I enjoyed a nice breakfast, checked out the place. Some aggressive Romanian girl tried to get one, but her cheap methods did not arouse me.
No.2: After a while a young, well-formed lady joined me and we had some nice conversation. The only drawback was that it turned out she was a bit sensitive down there so not much I could explore her pussy with my tong but it did not matter.
Her BJ skills were even better than the 1st girl and I stood up in front of the bed and took the CIM option; she said she was up for facials but it did not happen; be careful next time ;-). - again very good overall.
I then could relax some more in the real sauna and the really cool snow room or whatever it is called. It felt "cool" after sauna; not for the claustrophobic I guess.
I had some more light food and drinks and talked to several girls throughout the afternoon.
No.3: While I seldom go with the aggressive ones who offer themselves, but I am open to girls who I did not reject outright during an initial conversation but who then come back or use a different opportunity to "offer" themselves.
Let them pick you, right? It has worked well most of the time and, boy, this time was no different. I had not talked to her much, rather a colleague next to her but now in a more private setting in a corner we struck it fairly quickly.
We were talking us into a sex mood, touched each other on a quiet couch and eventually headed towards the rooms. Spontaneously, she suggested taking a shower together instead of separately and so we went into one of these WC and showers (supposedly for male guests).
We soaped each other up and later I sat down onto the floor of the shower room and encouraged her to stand above me. I let my tong do my best work and she enjoyed it the little craziness we experienced. I know they feign sympathy easily and quickly but sometimes you feel it is real.
We got to the room and I continued to slowly kiss, lick and caress her from top to bottom, sparing the sensitive area until she asked for it and pulled my head towards her pussy. Just 5-10 minutes later I had her contracting and shivering while I was flicking my tong around her clit.
Now I do not mind a good fake but certain times you can tell the difference and this was the real deal. :-) We relaxed, she then started to take care of my little one and while I do not often take 60 minutes, I went for it. No time pressure enjoying the touches of each other.
We fucked in a few normal positions and she blew me to finish. How lucky to have great sex with a wonderful young lady.
Another time cleaning up and some more steam bath to relax and reflect on the achieved. ;-) It was dinner time and I enjoyed a light meal before heading home. The evening line up was also very nice.
I am much impressed with the overall place, the variety and selection of girls and the service offered and provided. Of 12-15 girls I talked to all but ONE offered full service (CIM and/or CIF). Most did not offer anal which I do not do anyway so no worry there.
The approaches were courteous, professional but smart with direct, open conversation about service and price. I had never the feeling of being tricked or that they tried up selling etc. Thank you so much Stella, Nicoletta and Gia for such lovely company (not necessarily in the order described)
Any comments? Happy mongering !
Any comments?Any names?
Thanks for reporting otherwise.
Id be interested in knowing how the outside area seemed to be coming along. Their website is stuck on the same message about a delay in the completion.
Swiss Monger
07-27-10, 21:24
It is still a construction site with the basic structure poured in concrete and some wooden structures all over it (probably for concrete walls)? Did not hear about any ETA.
Id be interested in knowing how the outside area seemed to be coming along. Their website is stuck on the same message about a delay in the completion.
Hessen Bub
07-28-10, 10:46
I'd guess they will not open the outside facilities before September.
HB
Any comments? Happy mongering !Thanks for the long and detailed report : much appreciated!
Question : have you seen any public action?
Hessen Bub
08-01-10, 10:38
Public action at Paradise is rare, but it does happen in the cinema, upstairs on the couches, sometimes on the swings. Just do it - it's not illegal.
HB
Public action at Paradise is rare, but it does happen in the cinema, upstairs on the couches, sometimes on the swings.Thanks for the information.
Just do it - it's not illegal. Of course but I also enjoy the voyeuristic side.
Hothabanero
08-11-10, 14:59
Hi,
I will be in Stuttgart in this area soon. The only time I will have available will be in the morning, and only for about two hours. How early do they open? Is the cost the same? What is it like in the morning.
Danke.
Hessen Bub
08-11-10, 20:24
They open at 11am. Ask for the two hour ticket: You will pay the full 69€ but if you leave the club within 2 hours you will get 29€ back. Mornings are quite slow at Paradise, but you will find 10 to 12 girls. For a good BBBJ look for German Sandra - tall, slim, redish hair, D-cups (fake).
HB
I spent Monday and Thursday at the Paradise (http://www.the-paradise.de/), and I must say that these were two of the best days of mongering in my life. The place is located just outside Stuttgart, in very convenient vicinity to the Stuttgart airport and the Messe. It is easy to reach with a car, just a few meters off the Autobahn between Stuttgart and Munich.
As we all know, there are a lot fewer options for the hobby south of the Main river than north of it. But here is a tremendous exception to the rule. My previous favorite in that region, the Colosseum in Augsburg (http://www.fkk-colosseum.de/), cannot even hold a candle to the facilities, food, and service of Paradise. They build Porsche and Daimler cars in this part of the country, which are luxurious and tremendously well-engineered cars. Paradise fits right in. (BTW, Paradise is owned by the same people, who own Palace in Frankfurt.)
Since this place has been underreported here, let me attempt to give you the layout. From the outside the building at Dieselstrasse 21 is a non-descript 5-story rectangular office building, painted in dark red. (The are working on an underground garage next door, which will also have the outdoor facilities on top of it. From the looks of it, this will be finished in a few months.) You walk up a set of stairs, enter through the non-descript glass door, and are immediately transported into an Arabian-inspired fantasy, aptly named “Paradise”. For 69euro I was handed a key with rf-tag and a bathrobe (red or white, your call) and sent off to change into the spacious locker room, to the right of the reception. Expensive tiles, carpets, wood veneers are everywhere. The lockers are twice the size of the other leading FKKs (Oase, World, Palace) and each have a programmable safe built in. Showers and toilet facilities are there as well. Mouthwash is available, which is a nice touch. After the session, you pay the girl in the locker room, and apparently they have all been instructed to stay slightly behind so that they cannot see the touch pad combination for your personal safe.
Since I had admitted that this was my first time, I was offered a tour of the place, which I gladly accepted. I’ll try to briefly recreate it here, but perhaps you may want to go to http://www.the-paradise.de/#gallery/g/360 for a virtual tour in 3d, which is extremely well-made and really capture the ambience of this place (minus the women, unfortunately). The interior design cost 6 million euro and was designed by the female architect Sagadin Danica (check out the report on RTL, where you can also see some interior footage from Paradise and VV: http://www.the-paradise.de/images/upload/press/1f9beb333e/normal/rtl%20bericht.mp4). I love this women for what she has done with this place :).
When you enter the main facilities from the reception or the locker room. You first enter the bar area. The bar is huge and has about 20 well comfortably upholstered bar stools around it. This is ground zero. Your non-alcoholic drinks and simple coffee are free. Designer coffees (espresso, cappuccino, …) and all alcoholic drinks will cost you money. The prices are not outrageous, but not cheap either. You can conveniently charge to the rf tag on your key, and you pay as you exit the club. Part of the bar are is a seating arrangement with a tremendous number of pillows (like everywhere in this place), and a platform with a stripper pole in the middle. To the right of the bar is the wellness area, with a whirlpool, showers, and a sauna with a glass wall. The wellness area transitions into the massage and hamam area.
To the left of the bar is the bistro. Here you can get breakfast items until 4:30 pm. Then they close it and reopen at 6 or 6:30 for dinner. There is a salad bar, always some fresh-cut fruit, some selection of appetizers, and usually 3 main courses and several side dishes (potatoes, french fries, spaetzle, rice, grilled veggies, …) to select from. I sampled oven-roasted chicken, pork steak, salmon, and steak during my two visits, and they were all eatable to very good. There is also a soft drink dispenser and coffee machine in this area (where you can get an excellent cup of coffee!); this way you do not have to always go to the bar for your drinks, if you do not want to.
The centerpiece of Paradise is a spectacular two-story high lounge area with multitudes of sofas, stools, tables, and long seating arrangements. Again, a huge number of pillows everywhere. They play some music videos on a big screen here. It is never too loud to talk. Behind the lounge is the smoker’s room with a flat screen tv. They show sports there or the occasional porn. On the other side is the porn kino, with space for 20 to 30 people on three levels. The girls keep watch on who enters, and you will not be able to stay in there alone for more than a minute.
Between the smoker’s room and the cinema there is a winding staircase that gets you to the second floor. There is another smaller lounge as you exit the staircase, and you can walk around the central lounge area on some soft of balcony and watch the traffic below. There are also plenty of “rooms” up there, on the order of 30. They are all equipped with huge beds with specially designed round mattresses. Every room (I sample 6 of them) is very nicely decorated in the same Arabian nights theme. Two years after first opening, the rooms are still in immaculate condition, too. You can adjust the lights and the air conditioning to your wishes, and it makes for a very pleasant session environment. Back, tucked between the rooms on the second floor, there is another lounge area with bar, which can be made into a closed area for high roller VIP events.
Monday
The girls are encouraged to wear evening gowns on Mondays. This is the equivalent to Dessoustag at other clubs. Nobody was really wearing anything that they could wear outside the club, and it made for some really interesting eye candy. But if naked is your thing, then stay away form Paradise on Mondays.
I arrived at 3 pm. After my initial guided tour of the place, I took a shower and then made my way over to the bistro, where I had some cold cuts and German breakfast rolls. Apparently, there is a rule that the girls have to cover up in the bistro, because every girl wrapped a towel around herself. You can have some very pleasant conversations with the ladies in the bistro, if you are into this kind of thing.
Jessy
Then I decided to lay down on one of the big sofas in the lounge and let the game come to me. I sent away a couple of girls, who had come to lay down next to me. Then Jessy, a German girl from Nürnberg, approached. I said that I was going to rest a little longer, to which she replied that this was no problem for her, if she could just cuddle up next to me. With the small number of men present on Monday early afternoon this was no loss for her, anyway. So we chatted for a while, and I found that she was a very nice girl. She has medium-large breast and has a very gently touch. After about half an hour of her stroking me and some soft kisses, I decided that a session was in order.
What followed was a very nice installment of GFE sex, which I would rank certainly among the top-50 of all time for me. Lots of position changes, which felt natural in this case, and not some part of a porn star gymnastics routine. She was somebody I would definitely repeat with. Yes, of course she left me right after I had paid her in the locker room. But all through the next six hours she still was waving and smiling at me when we made eye contact. Jessy alone would have made this trip worthwhile.
Sally
After my first session, I decided to take it slow, make use of the wellness facilities, and relax. After sauna and whirlpool and shower and a little nap it was close to 7 pm, and the bistro was open for dinner. I took a steak and some salad and was very satisfied with the quality of the food and the helpful attitude of the staff. As I sat down to eat, I noticed a beautiful blond girl, who was wearing a black skimpy dress. Her hair was short, and her lipstick was bright red, a little reminiscent of a young Madonna. I decided that she had to move way up on my to-do list.
I approached her ten minutes later, after she had eaten and was at the bar again. Her name is Sally. She is listed as Serbian on the Paradise website, but she is also half German. Formerly at Palace, she is from Frankfurt. We chatted for a while and groped and kissed. It was time to consume the deal.
In the room she tried to up-sell me, which is shark-like behavior that I disapprove of. But whatever; she is hot, and so this did not dampen my mood. We did a good PSE session, which lasted almost the entire half hour. I still felt that I had not gotten all out of this interaction that could have been possible.
Derya
After Sally I figured that needed to replenish my protein level, and so I went to the bistro again for a second dinner. I picked the salmon and a salad. After that I made myself a cup of coffee and took it to the lounge area. Earlier I had noticed another blond girl with a very pretty face, who I had placed on my to-do list. She had worn a leopard-pattern ultra-short skirt and nothing else. Now I saw her sitting on a sofa, wearing a short black cocktail dress. I asked her if I could sit down with her. With a beautiful smile she agreed. Derya is from Turkey and has a very nice bubbly personality. Her kisses were very sensual, and I anticipated the session with great eagerness.
In the room she also tried to up-sell. I just smiled and thanked her politely. Her BBBJ is out of this world. This girl can just suck the chrome of a trailer hitch. I had to stop her a couple of times after only a few minutes; otherwise it would have been over. Then on with the rain coat, and off we were to experience more Paradise :D. In particular during doggie it felt like our bodies just had been made as one form-fitting unit. I have never experienced this before.
I had to get some sleep, and so I called it a day around 9 pm. It was an outstanding 6 hours in Paradise. Total damage: 219 euros.
Thursday
After my job in Germany was over on Thursday afternoon, I decided that I needed another installment of Paradise. Since my flight out of Stuttgart was early-early morning, I also decided that I needed to hang out at Palace until closing time (~ 4am) and then drive to the airport. I arrived at 9 pm and was able to answer the receptionist’s question “have you been here before?” with “you bet!”.
It was quite busy, and several girls went into serial processing mode. I would guess that about 50 girls were present, about 15 more than on Monday. It is hard to keep track of the number of girls, because this place is so big. There were also around 80 to 100 guys present, but the majority of them were either not sessioning or taking long breaks between sessions.
Today was not a day to wear eveningwear for the girls. For you FKK purists, this was still not the completely real deal, because most girls were wearing some sort of little bit of cloth on them. In many cases I thought this worked pretty well to highlight the things that the girls wanted to. In some cases I suppose it would also hide flaws. There were a handful of girls present, who I would have never have sex with, even if it was free. But apparently they must be making some money; otherwise they would not be working there. To each his own! But in any case, there are plenty of girls at Paradise for every taste.
Monica
I was sitting on a bar stool and enjoying one of the occasional strip shows. You can argue what the purpose of a strip show is in an FKK, where the girls wear nothing or at least next to nothing. But I still like it. Right after the show was over, I saw Monica from the Czech Republic. She has ample non-enhanced breast, which she highlighted by wearing a piece of sweater that only covered her upper arms and a thin band across her back. She was very friendly and gently and soft. And so she was session number one. It was again great GFE sex, and I was pleased with my selection.
Cherie
I then made my first trip to the bistro and had some pork steak, french fries, and salad. Again excellent! Time for some wellness. Then a good long stroll to find my next partner. It turned out to be Cherie from Serbia. She looks a little bit like the caricature in the Playboy funny pages section. So I decided to give her a spin. This was the least memorable of all sessions for me. Her excessive moaning made it sound totally fake. This is a problem for me, and so after giving it a gamely try for a good 20 minutes, I just gave up. She tried real hard and went through all the motions, but here totally faked moaning drove home to me that she really was not into the session. I pulled out and took off the condom. Being service oriented, she then tried to give me a hand job, which I stopped as well. I just felt that I could put the round that was in the chamber to a better use. I don’t think I would repeat with Cherie, either. I tried to tell her that I was not mad or anything, but that I just could not come right now. I think we parted in a friendly way after a little kiss in the locker room.
Sally, again
I don’t want to bore you with what I did when, but around 2 am I got a hold of Sally. This evening she wore a black garter belt, nothing else. I told her that she was the main reason that I had come back another day. This was actually true. On the drive to Paradise I had though about who I would session with again, and despite the fact that the other two sessions on Monday were better, I still wanted to give Sally another ride. Sally seemed pleased that I had come back for her. She also was clearly in a great mood, perhaps because she had made plenty of money already.
We only spent a few minutes at the bar and then headed for a room. Once we were in the room and I out of my robe, Sally said “let’s do something spectacular; I am getting bored!”. She wanted me to spray into her mouth. “OK, perhaps,” I said, but only if the moment is right. So she went to work with an excellent BBBJ. After about 10 minutes or so she must have realized that I was not going to be that easy. We put on a condom and put in a credible performance in several positions. I could see that our session was rapidly going the same way as Monday’s had: nothing special.
So then I asked her to get off the bed and to stand facing the wall. Then we did it standing up. I had a great time, and she also seemed to be getting into it a bit more. It was great seeing her desperately trying to grab hold of some support, a wall lamp, as I pounded hard.
Then I pulled out, turned her around, and asked if she still wanted to earn the bonus. In response she fell to her knees to give me a BBBJ while I was still standing. I fell back on the bed, and she mounted me 69-style. I licked her for dear life, and after a while it seemed to have effect, with her getting wetter and grinding against my chin. This turned me one much more, and my hot breath seemed to turn her on as well. As she came, so did I. It seemed to last forever, with little “aftershocks” rattling my body for a few more minutes. Then she turned around, and with my juice still on her lips she said that I had had a lot of juice left, and that this was the spectacular session she had asked for in the beginning. I actually believe this, and I was kinda proud of our joint performance. This was easily one of the top ten sessions of my life. … and all for the bargain basement price of 100 euros, which I gladly handed over to Sally in the locker room.
I showered, rinsed with mouthwash, washed my hair, too, and decided to go back to the bar one more time for a last cup of coffee before my drive to the airport. A few minutes later Sally came back, too. I told her how much I had enjoyed our session, and she was very pleased. When I told here it was time to catch my plane, she hugged me tight and gave me lots of kisses, making me promise that we would repeat on my next visit to Stuttgart. :D
The damage for this day was 269 euros, a very small price to pay for the slice of Paradise I had the pleasure to experience.
Hessen Bub
08-23-10, 09:57
Nice report. I like the club, the hardware is fantastic and will improve with the outside facilities. But the line-up sometimes is weak. And quite some girls do not perform well compared to the Hessen clubs.
The girls are encouraged to wear evening gowns on Mondays. This is the equivalent to Dessoustag at other clubs. Nobody was really wearing anything that they could wear outside the club, and it made for some really interesting eye candy. But if naked is your thing, then stay away form Paradise on Mondays.
Actually Dessoustag at Paradise is on Wednesday. Mondays are "Ladies-Night" plus a live piano player, the girls are allowed to wear lingerie and dresses.
So if you like WYSIWYG - don't visit on Monday or Wednesday.
HB
Thanks for the report, Euro100. Scrolling through the pics of the girls, it looks like Danielle from Austria is the same Daniella whom I saw this past week at Artemis.
Hessen Bub
08-23-10, 20:33
Yes, same girl. Had her at Paradise, average session.
HB
I spent Monday and Thursday at the Paradise ...Thank you for your detailed report. I went to Paradise 2 years ago and really enjoyed it although I was only able to stay for 4 hours.
Travelerb69
08-23-10, 23:46
I spent Monday and Thursday at the Paradise (http://www.the-paradise.de/), and I must say that these were two of the best days of mongering in my life.
The damage for this day was 269 euros, a very small price to pay for the slice of Paradise I had the pleasure to experience.
Well done, Mr Euro, terrific report. I myself also paid a visit to Paradise about 2 years ago. Nice club, not bad at all, although regarding facilities it can not hold a candle to the Vila Mimosa we visited:D.I went there again, BTW, but by no means could convince IPM to go with me, too much upscale for him;)...
Best regards, Tb69
Nille Copenhagen
08-24-10, 02:06
Yes, same girl. Had her at Paradise, average session.
HBI've just had a super session with Danielle at Artemis last Friday.
She had a nice, sweet and tight pussy.
She said she will not stay at Artemis for long.
Well done, Mr Euro, terrific report. I myself also paid a visit to Paradise about 2 years ago. Nice club, not bad at all, although regarding facilities it can not hold a candle to the Vila Mimosa we visited:D.I went there again, BTW, but by no means could convince IPM to go with me, too much upscale for him;)...
Best regards, Tb69
Can you give some detail on Vila Mimosa? I have never heard of it.
Well done, Mr Euro, terrific report. I myself also paid a visit to Paradise about 2 years ago. Nice club, not bad at all, although regarding facilities it can not hold a candle to the Vila Mimosa we visited:D.I went there again, BTW, but by no means could convince IPM to go with me, too much upscale for him;)...
Best regards, Tb69
OK, I just about fell out of my chair laughing when I read your post. For all of you, who had not heard of Vila Mimosa before: NO, it is not the new version of Villa Vertigo. Instead read this post of mine, which chronicles Tb69, Irishpussyman, and my adventures in Rio a couple of weeks ago: http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1053226&postcount=4907 (Vila Mimosa is described towards the end of that post ... :D)
Hessen Bub
08-24-10, 07:22
She said she will not stay at Artemis for long.
IMHO she does change clubs quite regularly because her service/reputation is not the best and she's not able to create long term client relationships. But that's only a guess.
HB
Nille Copenhagen
08-24-10, 08:40
IMHO she does change clubs quite regularly because her service/reputation is not the best and she's not able to create long term client relationships. But that's only a guess.
HBI didn't have any problem with her service, she was my last session at 4:15am at Artemis. And she performed well and was a really a GFE.
Nille
Can you give some detail on Vila Mimosa? I have never heard of it.
That's your lucky man ! :D
He meant ironically !
I stayed 3 months in Rio and I never any thought to go to see..... its "great" facilities :)
...there were at least 40 girls present, and at least 20 of them were doable by my standards, at least as far as their looks are concerned.
I first choose for their looks and this is easy and fast and then between the ones I like I have to choose the ones whom I have chemistry and that are friendly, sweety and with nice attitude too and this is not easy and not fast....
50% doable it is very good, if they were not only beautiful pieces of ices....
Sebastiane
08-28-10, 03:28
Euro100,
That was a classy report on Paradise. Never been there but your description definitely puts it on my "must visit" list.
Thank you.
Monday
The girls are encouraged to wear evening gowns on Mondays. This is the equivalent to Dessoustag at other clubs. Nobody was really wearing anything that they could wear outside the club, and it made for some really interesting eye candy. But if naked is your thing, then stay away form Paradise on Mondays.
Are we sure about the day that dessous falls on?
in Paradise, wednesday is the dessous tag and I don't like that shit.
Are we sure about the day that dessous falls on?
No, I am not. All I know is that they were not naked on Mondays. A couple of the girls told me that Mondays is the day to wear some kind of dress. I didn't really do research on the issue.
Here is what the website says: "Mädels, immer montags veranstalten wir die Ladies-Night. An diesem Abend gehen wir auf den Wunsch von vielen Gästen ein und tragen Abendkleider."
That's all I could find out. I figure they would mention it on the website, if there were a separate "Dessoustag". After all, they even mention that Tuesdays are American BBQ days.
But as I said, my entire Paradise experience is based on two visits; so I am not exactly an expert ... YET!
Hessen Bub
08-30-10, 07:33
I will have to quote myself for that:
Actually Dessoustag at Paradise is on Wednesday. Mondays are "Ladies-Night" plus a live piano player, the girls are allowed to wear lingerie and dresses.
So if you like WYSIWYG - don't visit on Monday or Wednesday.
HB
...so I am not exactly an expert ... YET!
I liked that "YET" ;) Looking forward to your next report.
Btw yesterday at FKK Mystic I talk about Paradise with a guy from Munich used to go there.... He said one of the best FKK he went....I am really curious to see it and... if it is, so why so little reports about it here ?
P.S. Dessoustag means girls in bikini, girls not naked or what exactly ?
Hessen Bub
08-30-10, 17:40
I am really curious to see it and... if it is, so why so little reports about it here ?
It is not, not even hardwarewise. Not until they open the outside facilities. Line up can be weak, a lot of good service providers leave for the Hessen clubs. But it's a nice club, the best in the Stuttgart area IMHO.
P.S. Dessoustag means girls in bikini, girls not naked or what exactly ?
Yep, means lingerie day. Girls not naked.
HB
It is not, not even hardwarewise. Not until they open the outside facilities. Line up can be weak, a lot of good service providers leave for the Hessen clubs. But it's a nice club, the best in the Stuttgart area IMHO...
Well I like when I speak with a girl to ask where it worked before and I noticed that many girls never listen about Paradise, but every girl knows World, Oase and Artemis even if they never been there.
. Line up can be weak, a lot of good service providers leave for the Hessen clubs. But it's a nice club, the best in the Stuttgart area IMHO.
HB
Alot of girls try out the Hessen pasture's...but there are only so many fish in each club for them to try to hook. I saw alot of girls from different clubs moving around this last trip, trying to find more business.
Hessen Bub
08-31-10, 06:16
Most girls think that there must be a club with better business than the one they work in. So they try out other places. Some do profit from a change, most don't. But they keep asking me about other clubs as they know I hop around.
HB
Most girls think that there must be a club with better business than the one they work in. So they try out other places....
Ah I understand, another version of the grass is greener in the garden of neighboor is the friend of mine, actually less beautiful than me, earns much more money in the other FKK cause there is more business, so what I am doing here ? :D
Devilspinkick
09-18-10, 15:44
I´m planning to visit Stuttgart (and by extension FKK Paradise) in a few weeks. Have been interested in checking it out ever since a lady I met at Artemis told me good things about it. Plan to visit on a Friday so I guess there will be a good line-up then. Looking forward to seeing another good FKK besides the usual Palace, Oase, Artemis ....
- DSK
Hessen Bub
09-18-10, 17:37
If you do like the facilities at Arte and Palace, then you will also like Paradise. It does suffer a little from the glas fronts they had to install due to non-smoking-laws in Germany.
HB
Devilspinkick
09-19-10, 23:12
If you do like the facilities at Arte and Palace, then you will also like Paradise.
HB
Wunderbar!
I reserved a room at the Holiday Inn Express, which seems to be practically around the block from Paradise. Which is also conveniently close to the airport - so after a night of debauchery I should easily be able to catch a quick sleep before hoping on an early morning flight to Berlin the following day. Life is good.
- DSK
Hessen Bub
09-20-10, 07:50
I reserved a room at the Holiday Inn Express, which seems to be practically around the block from Paradise. Which is also conveniently close to the airport - so after a night of debauchery I should easily be able to catch a quick sleep before hoping on an early morning flight to Berlin the following day. Life is good.
Good choice, it's 3min walking distance from Paradise, 5min by car to the airport. It's clean and modern. Decent breakfast included in the room charge.
HB
Wunderbar!
I reserved a room at the Holiday Inn Express, which seems to be practically around the block from Paradise. Which is also conveniently close to the airport - so after a night of debauchery I should easily be able to catch a quick sleep before hoping on an early morning flight to Berlin the following day. Life is good.
- DSK
They are open until at least 3 am; perhaps you can skip the hotel altogether, wait until closing time, take a taxi to the airport, and check in for your flight. I did this recently. Had to wait 2 hours at the airport, but that's ok.
Devilspinkick
09-28-10, 08:46
they are open until at least 3 am; perhaps you can skip the hotel altogether, wait until closing time, take a taxi to the airport, and check in for your flight. i did this recently. had to wait 2 hours at the airport, but that's ok.
yeh, i thought about doing that but i prefer to have a place to stash my luggage and valuables. no, i don't trust leaving my stuff with the reception in an fkk. i've had things stolen from me at fkks before. once at artemis somebody even stole my glasses from my robe while i was showering! thankfully my eye-sight is good enough that i could still pick out the hotties for the rest of the night. and i'm even more grateful that i had a spare pair of "peepers" at my hotel in the kudamm.
granted, i'll likely spend less than a handful of hours at the hotel, however it is a worthwhile investment imo.
"o tempora, o mores"
- dsk
Wry Cooter
09-28-10, 09:31
I am currently at the Stuttgart Hauptbahnhof and have bought my S-Bahn ticket to go to Paradise. From my research I found out its just a stone's throw from the Echterdingem stop on the S2 and S3 lines (one stop before the Airport or Flughafen). Takes 24 minutes from the Hbf and cost me only E3,30! The S-Bahn is basically closed down from shortly after midnight and starts back up shortly before 5am. Haven't decided yet if I should get a room here by the Hbf or at the Holiday Inn Express, although when I check online yesterday the Holiday Inn seemed to be all booked up! Anyway, I'm looking forward to an afternoon and evening spent relaxing at their facilities and also enjoying the company of their ladies. Will report back soon!
Billzhillz
10-07-10, 04:30
I just got back from a wednesday at FKK Paradise and I was supprised how good the lineup was in fact it was the best lineup I have seen period at any FKK. In the past three months I have been to Palace, World, Mainhattan and Oase, so I have seen all the big hitters. The facility was immaculate and was large. The food was not that bad. I am still shocked with the line up I did not expect such quality in this area but then again I have never been in this area. If you are in the area it is a must stop.
Hessen Bub
10-08-10, 03:42
Hhm, on German boards the actualmline-up dors not get too good reviews.
HB
Hhm, on German boards the actualmline-up dors not get too good reviews.
HB
I spent Monday and Thursday at the Paradise (http://www.the-paradise.de/), and I must say that these were two of the best days of mongering in my life.
I'll be down that way in 3 weeks or so to judge for myself, will report what I find.
Paradise seems to be getting mixed reports which makes me hesitate on whether to waste a night there next week. Anyone else would like to share their opinions on Paradise?
Is the line-up definitely lower quality than Palace & Oase?
Paradise seems to be getting mixed reports which makes me hesitate on whether to waste a night there next week. Anyone else would like to share their opinions on Paradise?
Is the line-up definitely lower quality than Palace & Oase?
We really need to send BC down there to make a proper assessment of the line-up and perhaps produce a rudementary line-up list, don't we?
O
Markthomas1950
10-09-10, 17:09
We really need to send BC down there to make a proper assessment of the line-up and perhaps produce a rudementary line-up list, don't we?
OHi Ortos,
Just a couple of posts below Breadman says he is going to FKK Paradise in 3 weeks and he indicates that he is going to do a report. I think that would make it the end of October.
Markthomas1950
10-09-10, 17:15
Paradise seems to be getting mixed reports which makes me hesitate on whether to waste a night there next week. Anyone else would like to share their opinions on Paradise?
Is the line-up definitely lower quality than Palace & Oase?Hi Aolini,
I have been to Paradise and it is a nice club. Real big and reminds me a lot of Artemis in Berlin and Palace in Frankfurt in decor. As euro100 says there was a 6 million euro fit out done to the place and there is more being done to it to improve it with outdoor area.
I think the line up was just fine. It depends on which day at Oase or Palace that you mean. I was perfectly happy. I got there at 7pm after a 3 hour drive up from where I am in the south. I made a circumnavigation of the club and spotted some faves and someone I knew a friend would like. So I got on the dog and bone and within 2.5 hours my friend had come down from the north from Frankfurt. The line up was that good that he came down to see it.
So I hope that gives you an idea.
There are definitely girls that I would fuck at Paradise. A list of maybe a dozen that I would like to have my pork sword hilt deep in their twat.
Hessen Bub
10-10-10, 01:57
I like BC's lists, but they don't give you an idea of quality. Service level is varying, also are girl's looks. Go give it a try.
HB
Hannibal Barca
10-10-10, 02:00
Paradise seems to be getting mixed reports which makes me hesitate on whether to waste a night there next week. Anyone else would like to share their opinions on Paradise?
Is the line-up definitely lower quality than Palace & Oase?Paradise is worth the visit. I have some good times there with the girls. Some good service can be had in relaxed surroundings. The facilities are top notch. Many Romanian, Bulgarian and German girls. The catchment area is Badem Wurttemberg which is an area that provides enough mass affluent guests to keep Paradise going/
Is it important that Paradise has a lower quality than Palace and Oase?
Hannibal Barca
10-10-10, 02:07
Paradise seems to be getting mixed reports which makes me hesitate on whether to waste a night there next week. Anyone else would like to share their opinions on Paradise?
Is the line-up definitely lower quality than Palace & Oase?Just give it a try. The club is really great in terms of facilities.
Is it that important that the quality has to be better than Palace and Oase for it to be worth a visit.
Just go and find out.
The catchment area of Bardem Wurttemberg contains enough mass affluent guests to sustain the club and bring in a stunning line up to keep them happy.
I like BC's lists, but they don't give you an idea of quality.
HB
Nevertheless, BC's lists give you a much better idea of the breadth and texture of a club's line up than:
Service level is varying, also are girl's looks. Go give it a try.
HB
I could have concluded that by myself without ever visiting the club, right?
I think I'll "go give it a try" only AFTER there is a better indication of what one would find there...
O
Hessen Bub
10-11-10, 02:34
Service at Oase or World is far more consistent, lots of girls at Paradise do not kiss or to only coverd BJ.
HB
Service at Oase or World is far more consistent, lots of girls at Paradise do not kiss or to only coverd BJ.
HB
No Kissing? Only CBJ??? Ohhhhhhhhh, scheisse! Not this shit again.
Well, thanks for the specifics. That does indeed help one make a choice to invest or not in the ride and visit to this place...thanks!
O
Markthomas1950
10-11-10, 08:39
Service at Oase or World is far more consistent, lots of girls at Paradise do not kiss or to only coverd BJ.
HBHi HB,
Reading in between the lines of your quote is you mentioning Oase or World as having consistent service but not Palace or any other Frankfurt area clubs. Are you implying that Palace service is inconsistent like that at Paradise with all the consequences (e.g. sharks) that come with that association with Palace?
Cheers
Service at Oase or World is far more consistent, lots of girls at Paradise do not kiss or to only coverd BJ.
HBThey must be hoping to attract the clique of stupid fucking Limeys who are complaining on ********* that too many of the girls in the UK are offering BBBJ !!! :eek:
Hessen Bub
10-12-10, 00:22
Paradise doesn't enforce standards. Same for Palace. Oase, World, Mainhattan do. You do find great service at Paradiße, Mavi is an example, but it's inconsistent.
HB
Markthomas1950
10-12-10, 19:53
They must be hoping to attract the clique of stupid fucking Limeys who are complaining on ********* that too many of the girls in the UK are offering BBBJ !!! :eek:Hi Kiwi 69,
That is just not right.
Markthomas1950
10-12-10, 20:05
Paradise doesn't enforce standards. Same for Palace. Oase, World, Mainhattan do. You do find great service at Paradiße, Mavi is an example, but it's inconsistent.
HBHi Hessen Bub,
Good to know that Oase, World and Mainhattan enforce standards.
Mitzu was seen by a buddy back at Palace last Saturday (I think Saturday) sporting enhancements. Maybe the escort business has been slow lately, or maybe she was horny and needed servicing.
Mitzu was seen by a buddy back at Palace last Saturday (I think Saturday) sporting enhancements. Maybe the escort business has been slow lately, or maybe she was horny and needed servicing.
Sorry I posted in wrong thread.
I had a flight into Stuttgart and needed to go take a client to dinner. I do not like to fly in suit, because I want to be more comfortable. My plan was to shower in the VIP lounge in Amsterdam, where I had to make a stop after crossing the ocean. But I got squeezed for time on the layover and had to pass.
So I decided to do the only thing reasonable: go to FKK Paradise, take a shower, and change into a suit and tie. From the time I jumped into my rental car at the airport until I arrive at Paradise it took less than 10 minutes. The club is located at an amazingly great location for the business traveler!
I got into the club at 3 pm and took a shower, quick whirlpool and sauna. Took a coke a a couple of bites to eat, then took a stroll through the club. By that time I had not even been in the club for more than 20 minutes. Deria (see my last reports ...) must have seen me walking by, because when I returned to the bar she approached me. Little chit-chat, kissing, stroking, groping. Bingo, we are off to a room. 20-minute quickie, very good! I love doing her doggie. Of course she tried me to come in her mouth. Man, can this girl suck a dick! I bet she could remove kidney stones that way. Might be a treatment that is reimbursable by Medicaid! But I resisted here considerable powers of vacuum-cleaning. Yes, this is sharky behavior, but to me the struggle added to the pleasure.
Before I went to take my shower, I took a cappuccino (careful: extra charge!) at the bar. Then shower, shave, mouthwash. And one hour after entering I went back out the door. Since I stayed less than 2 hours, they refunded me 39 euro of the 69 euro I had paid upon entering. The perfect layover!
I then made it to dinner with my client in plenty of time and amazingly refreshed. They commented on how much they were impressed that I did not show any signs of jet lag. I just smiled.
Took the long drive south to check out Paradise...not much of a paradise in my opinion. Turns out they just raised the entrance to 79 euros and its not worth every penny of that amount. Looks almost exactly like Palace...found out its co-owned by the same owner...probably raised the rates to pay for his new patio that has yet to be opened. Part of your entrance goes towards this neat contraption in the sauna...an automated steamer...that produces little to no steam. Looks great though...if you want steam you pour water on the hot rocks next to the new toy.
The ladys is what I came for...there were several here on the tuesday that I visited...close to 30 all day...of those 10 were of my liking. Truth be told I bet Finca would have been a better tuesday choice. There was one that I really wanted...but she came around once and was taken by some customer for the rest of my visit. I did go with one girl...Paloma...a striking creature, good looks great body but please dont kiss her face, she insists because of all the time for the makeup.
I did find one of basketcases missing oase girls...rebecca. black hair, small perky b tits who gives a trying deep throat with lots of teeth. not at the club though but at the rdl. 30 euros for a cbj was worth the drive, paradise wasnt. Hey, if your down that way on a weekend and have 79 euros looking to escape your pocket on a club with a small contact area and little else, paradise will probably have lots of hot women since its the only club in the area. If your in frankfurt though, save your gas and stay north.
Was also informed there are two asian girls...one for you asian girl lovers...one for you asian boy lovers...a post op. wasnt informed which was which, so look for the adams apple.
Markthomas1950
11-04-10, 23:39
Nevertheless, BC's lists give you a much better idea of the breadth and texture of a club's line up than:
I think I'll "go give it a try" only AFTER there is a better indication of what one would find there.
OHay Ortos,
It looks like from Breadman's report below that there is no recommendation to visit Paradise in the landse of Stuttgart. There is no indication that one will find anything better than Palace.
In fact Paradise feels like Palace with Palace for me having the better line up.
I am so glad that Basketcase managed to get my fellow gentleman love travelling companions to go north instead of south. The trip to PSR in the north cost us 5.5 hours round trip of driving whereas the trip to paradise would have cost us 7 hours of driving on a round trip. Tip to Basketcase for steering us right there. PSR was a lovely visit with special times with the lady lovers there.
I visited Paradise lat week and was not very satisfied indeed.
I entered the club around 22.00 and there were around 30 so girls. The club was not so crowded.
Most of the girls were bored and act like sharks all around. They were trying to upsell piccolo or other drinks ı think where they earn money from.
I had a nigerian and an lithuanian girl which were ok in service but nothing extraordinary.
Next they ı visited Sakura where ı find it more interesting as the girls were new and aproached me with a better enthusiasm
Regards
Markthomas1950
11-06-10, 13:13
I visited Paradise lat week and was not very satisfied indeed.
I entered the club around 22.00 and there were around 30 so girls. The club was not so crowded.
Most of the girls were bored and act like sharks all around. They were trying to upsell piccolo or other drinks ı think where they earn money from.
I had a nigerian and an lithuanian girl which were ok in service but nothing extraordinary.
Next they ı visited Sakura where ı find it more interesting as the girls were new and aproached me with a better enthusiasm
RegardsHey Gezgin,
Thanks for the report and the warning. Real glad we did not end up there and with the extra driving that the other guys were signing themselves up for.
There was a fair amount of time spent in the hotel going back and forth over where we wuz gonna go that day. Go south to Paradise or north to PSR. Democracy sometimes does not work even when the numbers were uneven.
I do not think the lads would not have liked to be buying piccolos of champagne or white whine for the rented lady lovers. The girls indeed get a commission for the sale of that plonk. But then that is the same in any club. I just saw that the sale of piccolo was more prevalent and tended to be a prelude to a sex encounter at Paradise.
I guess you went to Paradise midweek since Fridays and Saturdays at Paradise has a more stiffer line up.
Nice one banging a nigerian and a lithuanian. At least you got some man. Nothing to write home about from what you say. Sums up the entire scene.
I met a German guy at World who recommends Sakura as the place to go in Stuttgart. He goes to all the clubs like 3 or 4 times a week. He does tours of the clubs he says. He fucks girls left right and centre then goes to stay the night in a local B&B or pension. thennext day he gets up and does it all again. He gave me tips of where to stay when in certain locations. That German guy was wild. He seem to know a lot of the german guys in the club shaking hands and touching base with them all.
In mid October I visited Paradise for the first time. While this place is awesome from the facilities to the food, I was disappointed with the types of girls that were present; maybe just a bad day, but i could quickly tell i was dealing with sharks in hot pursuit. Not exactly a relaxing atmosphere.
Two tall dutch gals (one blond and the other dark short hair, body 25% full of tattoos, in their mid thirties with way too much silicone, approached me as soon as i sat down on a couch and asked to join them in a room for double action. When i politely declined they were rude, their attitude being: 'you are a looser if you do not go to a room when asked'.
My intention what to check out the gals first and see what kind of personalities i could identify while they were interacting with the guys, and then make a couple selections.
Instead I used the pool and sauna facilities to stay at arms length, had some food which turned out be pretty good, did not party with anyone and left after being in the club for two hours.
From this (one time) experience and from what is being reported in this forum, i mostly likely will not go back unless the ratings improve significantly. Too bad because it is a great facility.
Management needs to better select the quality of the girls and tone down their sharking manners.
Basketcase
11-13-10, 11:44
In mid October I visited Paradise for the first time. While this place is awesome from the facilities to the food, I was disappointed with the types of girls that were present; maybe just a bad day, but i could quickly tell i was dealing with sharks in hot pursuit. Not exactly a relaxing atmosphere.
Two tall dutch gals (one blond and the other dark short hair, body 25% full of tattoos, in their mid thirties with way too much silicone, approached me as soon as i sat down on a couch and asked to join them in a room for double action. When i politely declined they were rude, their attitude being: 'you are a looser if you do not go to a room when asked'.
My intention what to check out the gals first and see what kind of personalities i could identify while they were interacting with the guys, and then make a couple selections.
Instead I used the pool and sauna facilities to stay at arms length, had some food which turned out be pretty good, did not party with anyone and left after being in the club for two hours.
From this (one time) experience and from what is being reported in this forum, i mostly likely will not go back unless the ratings improve significantly. Too bad because it is a great facility.
Management needs to better select the quality of the girls and tone down their sharking manners.
Gezgin and Zebrano,
Thanks for your reports on how dissappointing Paradise in Stuttgart is.
I did enjoy my regular visits to Paradise when I was based relatively close by, but then I suppose I was confident in knowing what I wanted and pushed the bad factors out of my mind. For example, I can now push past the issues that are discussed on the Palace thread and really get the most from my stay at Palace and find the Palace experience exciting.
Gezgin and Zebrano,
Thanks for your reports on how dissappointing Paradise in Stuttgart is.
I did enjoy my regular visits to Paradise when I was based relatively close by, but then I suppose I was confident in knowing what I wanted and pushed the bad factors out of my mind. For example, I can now push past the issues that are discussed on the Palace thread and really get the most from my stay at Palace and find the Palace experience exciting.Basketcase,
Your comments reflect the fact you are experienced in visiting FKK clubs and you know the type of girls you are seeking. You and other seasoned guys make visiting clubs like Oase smoother by your reporting on who-is-who there, and we are very grateful for that.
I need to concentrate on the lineup and unfortunately the persistent sharking distracts me from observing. I prefer quality time since I am only able to visit once in a while (year) and by the time i come back most faces are new.
Like everything else it boils down to knowledge and experience.
Do you have any names to recommend at Palace?
Zebrano
I will be in the area this Jan-Feb but no any fancy to visit this formerly lovely. Since they raised the entry fee to 79 Euro and since the recent reports are very bad, I can't invest a whole day, in a purgatory.
So bad, when I remember my nice visits with lots of quality time to this place, back in 2008 and 2009. And now, this is a total lost for FKK scene. And this proves, even you build the best premises, facilities, buildings etc, at the end of the day the cruical thing is human touch. Here, with no good girl with good attitude, nothing worth your penny. IMHO, it is better to go somewhere else. I will switch it with Safari or Sakura, next time in the area.
Basketcase
01-15-11, 12:11
I will be in the area this Jan-Feb but no any fancy to visit this formerly lovely. Since they raised the entry fee to 79 Euro and since the recent reports are very bad, I can't invest a whole day, in a purgatory.
So bad, when I remember my nice visits with lots of quality time to this place, back in 2008 and 2009. And now, this is a total lost for FKK scene. And this proves, even you build the best premises, facilities, buildings etc, at the end of the day the cruical thing is human touch. Here, with no good girl with good attitude, nothing worth your penny. IMHO, it is better to go somewhere else. I will switch it with Safari or Sakura, next time in the area. Hi Creature 2,
Thanks for the tip. I must remember to ensure that Paradise comes off the visit list when planning a foray into the State of BW. Sadly some of the crew have not been there and want to go. Some like it and some loathe it. A bit like marmite.
79€ for entritt. So much. It just goes to show that there is local German clientele in BW are happy to pay that price since it cannot be all foreigners who are visitors to the club. Paradise is a nice club I agree and a great day out to use the facilities.
Hi Creature 2,
Thanks for the tip. I must remember to ensure that Paradise comes off the visit list when planning a foray into the State of BW. Sadly some of the crew have not been there and want to go. Some like it and some loathe it. A bit like marmite.
79€ for entritt. So much. It just goes to show that there is local German clientele in BW are happy to pay that price since it cannot be all foreigners who are visitors to the club. Paradise is a nice club I agree and a great day out to use the facilities. Hi Basketcase,
I guess some of the BW citizen is visiting the clubfor shorter period. If you exit the club only after two hours of entry, you get a refound of 30 Euro, so your entry price could be 50 Euro. This might be useful if you are a local and seeking a specific girl to take directly to the room. And this is also a way to cut the losses and switch to somewhere else nearby. But for the guys who travels just the clubs, the 2 hours visits is not helpful, and I if I recall wel, this is only applied in the afternoons, just for a quickie.
Hessen Bub
01-15-11, 12:38
I've been to Paradise recently. Line-up was OK, about 40 to 50 girls, mixed, old, young, slim, fat.
HB
They will have an anniversary party at 12th February. Sakura also has its own, at the end of January.
Basketcase
01-15-11, 13:16
They will have an anniversary party at 12th February. Sakura also has its own, at the end of January.Hi Creature 2,
Thank you for pointing out that FKK Paradise is having an anniversary party on Saturday. 12 February. There is a the large Ambiente messe between 11 to 15 February during the Carnival period" in Frankfurt am Main so maybe a trip to the BW clubs to avoid the messe crowds is a potential for that weekend's travels.
Other alternative is to head for the NRW clubs I found during that messe weekend in Frankfurt. It maybe carnival chaos in NRW too but it is not as chock a block like Frankfurt clubs will be.
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First visit here a couple of weeks back. The place is very nicely done, no doubt of that, good rooms, food, facilities in general (Palace-style, only bigger) , but for €79 entry the line-up has to be better. Probably max. 30 girls present, no real must-haves, and little atmosphere. A local guy told me this wasn't representative (midsummer). Still, had two good sessions (Aida, RU, and Christina, RO, both willing partners and the latter my pick of the talent that day) either side of a very bad one that I raised with the front desk and was given a discount off my next visit, which was unexpected and a nice gesture. Overall, mixed, but enough here to make it worth a second look more in high season.
Hi everyone, planning a trip to Paradise after a couple of years.
Can anyone give me the basic info on this club about girls rates?
Entrance is 79.
Dessous tag Wednesday.
30 min?
60 min?
+ cim?
+ anal (when avail)?
Lots of upselling going on?
I'll be visiting probably a Tuesday and Wednesday evening / night.
Probably a faq but couldn't find the info with a quick search.
Thanks in advance.
Kimino
Hessen Bub
09-12-11, 14:05
Dessous tag Wednesday.
30 min?
60 min?
+ cim?
+ anal (when avail)?
Lots of upselling going on?30 min 50 EUR.
60 min 100 EUR.
CIM plus 50 EUR.
Anal plus 100 EUR.
Upselling. No, not too bad, much better than at Palace. But talk to the girl about service and prive before you go with her.
HB
30 min 50 EUR.
60 min 100 EUR.
CIM plus 50 EUR.
Anal plus 100 EUR.
Upselling. No, not too bad, much better than at Palace. But talk to the girl about service and prive before you go with her.
HBthanks very much HB!
I'd really like to go back to visit Paradise, I did enjoy it and I appreciated the facilities. At my eyes the place is in the same league as Artemis, Palace and maybe Oase, maybe.
I'm gathering info on other stuff to do, particularly brothels (high level) , to justify a Stuttgart trip as an alternative to Berlin. Flights costs are the same.
Best.
Kimino
Have just arrived in Stuttgart. Wanting to stay near Paradise, tried Holiday Inn and Ibis but neither had free nights for the dates I'm here. Ended up staying at Hotel Safak33. Not that much cheaper than the other two's best rates, but it is like a bad backpacker hostel. Will forfeit the extra nights I've paid for and move out tomorrow if I can find somewhere else, it's that bad!
Stuttgart.
Best deal hotel for Echterdingen area (close to airport and Paradise, and reasonable location for Boblingen's Sakura FKK etc)
To get my bearings, I had a nice walk in the rain this morning around the industrial estate where Paradise is located. I must have walked past it I think, even though I followed the streets and found the Holiday Inn and Ibis landmarks.
I did find a very pleasant hotel very near the train station:
Hotel Echterdinger Lamm.
Hauptstrasse 96-98.
+49-711-72-24-91-9-0.
Email info@dh-hotels-de
Single €59 and Double €75.
It was fully booked, but they showed me one of the rooms. Which I'd describe as quite luxurious at that price. It's also on the main strip with restaurants and shops. Unlike the horrible Airport Hotel Safak33 (which I've mentally named the 'PigPen') and which is down a side street and most unpleasant.
So far I have found the people of Stuttgart (with the exception of Hotel Safak) uniformly friendly, polite, helpful and welcoming. I just need to discover the German equivalent of 'having fun' when it comes to p4p! .
Have checked into the Park Hotel, which is still easy walking distance from Paradise but located right next to the train station, buses and cafes, as opposed to the Holiday Inn, which is only by an industrial estate afaiaa. The Holiday Inn quoted me €99 and The Park wanted €119, but I did manage to persuade them to throw in free wifi (which is fast). The Park is also a better class of hotel than most Holiday Inns, new and very stylish (I wish I was booking a top escort to share the rather stunning room!) it also means that, if it's raining you can get on the train without really getting wet.
Sorry this post is only about hotels but hopefully it will be useful to others visiting the area. Will try to post punting report in due time.
Hessen Bub
10-07-11, 18:01
Holiday Inn Express is within 5min walking distance. They do have rates beginning at 70 EUR.
http://www.express-stuttgart.de/hotel.htm
HB
Holiday Inn Express is within 5min walking distance. They do have rates beginning at 70 EUR.
http://www.express-stuttgart.de/hotel.htm
HBI know they have deals on from time to time, but this morning when I went in (and I'm pretty good at haggling best rates) they told me to my face 99 Euro and wouldn't budge below that. (The website is also showing the same for tonight BTW). Although it is a good option, I would still use the Park or the Lamm if I come back. Hol-Inn is close, but not so close you wouldn't get wet in today's rain. Walking, it's only a difference of two minutes. Park and Lamm are both next to the station, which is very handy unless you want to do the Paradise FKK and nothing else. And there's damn good restaurants outside that to me makes quite a difference. Being able to nip across the road for a great lunch (La Conchiglia was great service, food and ambience for 10 Euros). Hol. Inn is only next to an unappealing fast road.
But a better reason perhaps is that both the Lamm and the Park offer superb value for money in their category. Hol. Inn is a nice hotel, but I wouldn't call it inspiring. Lamm is amazing value for a cheaper option, while the Park is pretty stunning. The difference of some memorable luxury really changed my mod after such a shitty morning sorting out the Safak Hotel. Park is 4star but looks like 5. New, modern and very arresting style, sweeping spiral red staircase, gigantic photos of the stars, unique entry system, awesome bed with great variety of lighting everywhere (including an adjustable coloured light with a timer in the bathroom which is quite sexy-looking) , lightning-fast wifi, lots of space, HDTV, snazzy minibar, modern leather furniture and fairly chic interiors, full-length windows opening balcony-style with great view. Now I know 119 is not cheap, but it is palatial compared with the family-look Holiday Inn and today it was the best buy for a difference of only 20 Euros. But everyone to their own taste. And budget of course. I really love Stuttgart so far. But hotels and things generaly, while not bad for Europe, are still expensive. For reference, my total spend for a few days will be about the same as going to Brazil.
Echterdingen is cool and ideal for Paradise and the Airport (really excellent for a stopover!). But not so sure if you are venturing elsewhere. I did Boblingen (report to follow) today, which seemed obvious being also in the southern outskirts. But waiting for the connections felt quite time-consuming, doubling the journey time. And you quite shivery in the cold weather snap. Whereas if one stayed in the city centre, it is just one train to anywhere from HBF, and you have p4p on yoru doorstep without worrying about the problems of getting home after midnight. But of course, by the same chalk, if you do want to party specifically in Paradise until 3 or 4am, and don't have a car, staying in Echterdingen is easily the best way to go!
Member #4243
12-11-11, 10:27
I am looking into a midweek visit to fkk paradise as it is only 1hour 30mins by train from frankfurt. The majority of my stay will be in frankfurt but I thought this might be a nice way to see stuttgart too spending maybe 2 nights there. From their website I see they are.
Opening some new clubs and they also have a different themed night for each day of the week. Tuesday apparently is goose roasted food night! What I could do with some help with is if anyone can give me a rundown of the current lineup of girls there, beauty
Levels etc.
I have read previously it may not be on par with the big frankfurt clubs but even if it is nearly in the same ball league that would be enough to justify a very short train hop down to stuttgart. Tuesday might be a day I could visit during my next trip so info especially on
Midweek lineup greatly appreciated. Thanks
Hessen Bub
12-11-11, 11:21
I am looking into a midweek visit to fkk paradise as it is only 1hour 30mins by train from frankfurt.It's actually 1, 5 hours from FFM to Stuttgart main station, be aware that Paradise is located close to the airport and about another 30 to 40 min from Hauptbahnhof Stuttgart.
Line-Up. Haven't been there for ages, but when looking at their website it seems to be pretty ok quantitywise.
HB
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Line-Up. Haven't been there for ages, but when looking at their website it seems to be pretty ok quantitywise.
HBIts been a year since my 'weekday' visit. Remember the lineup to be extremely weak. Maybe the quality improves on the weekend? One of those 'been there, done that club' deals for me. I won't be returning anytime soon.
Spent a few hours in Paradise club yesterday evening. I was very satisfied by the club and the girls. Having visited another FKK in Frankfurt recently I think Paradise is superior in all. Excellent line-up! Around 40/50 girls of different type. Approach by the girl is nice and never pushy. Sunday seems to be a proper day to visit since there are a few men and it's possible to fully enjoy the club. Everything is very clean and the food satisfactory. Buffet formula and drinks dispenser allow to drink and eat freely (I remember queues in another FKK, especially for the food which was served at fixed times). Rooms are set up and cleaned after every use. Fucked 2 girls, big tits and bootylicious. Straight my type, but there are really girls for any taste, including some beautiful romanians. Club is relaxing and the girls smiling. Deserves a visit if never been there.
After numerous visits to the Artemis and the Palace this time I have decided to try two clubs in the zone of Stoccarda; the Paradise and the Sakura.
Paradise 8 and 10 December.
Entrance 79 €
The place is really beautiful, perhaps Artemis is the best.
The restaurant has always opened and the food is to the same levels of the Palace.
The level of cleaning is equal to the others and in the changing room they have also put the mouthwash.
The girls are more friendly and also more beautiful of the other 2 places.
Talking to a Spanish girl has told that Thursdays were present 71 girls while Friday 82.
The greatest part of the girls they are Rumanian, German and they are also there quite a lot Spanish.
I can recommend these girls:
Cindya 26 years Lithuania With the heels is tall almost 2 meters. Model figure. Good service.
Bri 20 years romania. Arrived alone 2 weeks. Beautiful hard breasts as the marble. She has said that I had a big dick and that therefore no pussies but only blowjob.
Figure 10 and service 6.
Elisa 21 years Romania. Before she worked to the Oase. Model figure. No fingers in pussy.
Andrea 24 years Romania. Student face, breasts small. She is ashamed; it is the only one with the pants.
Ludia 24 years Romania. Brunette, tall and nice. Good service.
Lolli Germania 30 years brown. The more working girl of everybody. With her you can try everything and more (I have put there 2 fingers in the pussy).
In conclusion I prefer the Paradise, to the Artemis and the Palace, for the cordiality, the quality and the number of the beautiful girls.
Member #4243
01-26-12, 01:08
I am considering whether to head north to nrw or south to stuttgart after 3 days of debauchery in the big hessen clubs during my next trip. The facilities look swish in paradise but all of my previous efforts to get a clear idea on the lineup of girls there have met with very contradicting replies. I would schedule in a visit to paradise on a Tuesday which I know can be quite slow but more important for me is quality than quantity. Do any senior or well informed members here have an accurate picture of the weekday lineup and maybe even a comparison with the big hessen 3?
Thanks lots.
Confirmed, I'll be at Paradise with a friend on Saturday, from mid / late afternoon.
Not our first visit there but it's been quite a while. Very curious to see how the place is right now.
If anyone will be there and wants to meet, PM.
Ciao!
Kimino
Short report, just to give some feedback on the place.
Arrived at 4pm, left at 11pm.
Prices:
Entrance 79 euros.
30 min 50 euro.
Cim +50 euro.
Anal +100 euro.
Had 2 Jack Daniels (good quantity, real glass) , paid 22euros at exit.
Facilities:
Place is real nice, big, good food, safes in the locker, etc. Etc.
Lineup: well below Artemis standards. Around 40/50 girls but few stunners, if any.
Enough to have fun, obviously.
Quality of service: had 2 girls. Valentina, Hungarian and Patrizia, german from Koln. First one really mediocre, second one better but not memorable.
It's not I was particularly picky.
Anyways, a nice club if you happen to be in Stuttgart or passing by in this area, not worth a trip.
Tomorrow morning we leave for Berlin.
Kimino
I visited Paradise last Friday. I had only a short time available so I took advantage of the "stay 2 hours pay 50€" deal. It works if you exit before 4 pm Had only one lady a Russian from Tjumen in Siberia. She was 35 but with big firm breasts. She gave a good but professional service with a long BBJ after thouroughly cleaning my dick with a wetwipe and the sex in two positions.
I had a friend with me and he took a German younger girl and he was also satisfied. All in all I must say the 100€ gave value for money as we also managed to drink and eat some in the two hours.
Regards
I visited Paradise last Friday. I had only a short time available so I took advantage of the "stay 2 hours pay 50€" deal. It works if you exit before 4 pm Had only one lady a Russian from Tjumen in Siberia. She was 35 but with big firm breasts. She gave a good but professional service with a long BBJ after thouroughly cleaning my dick with a wetwipe and the sex in two positions.
I had a friend with me and he took a German younger girl and he was also satisfied. All in all I must say the 100€ gave value for money as we also managed to drink and eat some in the two hours.
RegardsThanks for report. How was lineup comparing with other known clubs? Normally Stuttgart is out of my routes, but I might stack there for couple of nights in a few weeks. I assume that Paradise is better option than Safari or Sakura.
CheekyDancer
06-21-12, 19:28
Thanks for report. How was lineup comparing with other known clubs? Normally Stuttgart is out of my routes, but I might stack there for couple of nights in a few weeks. I assume that Paradise is better option than Safari or Sakura.I don't have any experience of the Frankfurt and Berlin clubs but I can say there is always someone for everyones tastes at Paradise. I have been there three times. The club is huge and fantastic if you want to find yourself some space in between sessions. The last time I was there I could only pick out around five girls that I classed as 9/10's. There are plenty of 8's. I have high standards so you light find that there are more 9's than I say. There were probably 80 girls there in the evening.
I went to Sukura once and really liked the club. The standard of girls was a little less but there was no sharkyness. I sessioned with two girls there and with one of them three times she was that much fun. The atmosphere in Sakura is good because it is a smaller environment. I met some cool people in there to chat with. That were very helpful to me being somewhat of a Newbie in the whole FKK scene.
Out of the two clubs I would definitely go to Paradise over Sukura if I was on a short stay but if you are there a few days then Sukura is worth a visit.
I'm a regular in the Hessen clubs, this time I decided to make my first visit to the Paradise.
Excellent location in Echterdingen very close to the Stuttgart airport, easily accessible by public transportation. The club has very good facilities. Reminds me of the Palace from the good old times before the last revamp (perhaps the owner actually moved some of the furniture from FRA to STR).
The line-up was not more than avarage. But as the line-up in both Oase and Palace has been going down steadily over the last few years, it is comparable in the three clubs now. I even saw some familiar faces, none of my favourites, though.
Four sessions: Daniela, Erika, Roxy and Klee (all claiming to be German, of various origins, perhaps). None of them remarkable in any way. The club owners should work on improving the attitude of the girls. The "f* me and get lost" attitude is not going to make me come back. Still, mainly due to the facilities, I'm ready to give them a second chance and take a more representative sample.
DITTO Basel. Allow me to add to your representative sample, as I went this club on Friday 6th July for the first time. BBQ Food & Facility set-up fantastic, and place reminds me of Palace pre-2011 decor with it's 2 large swing bed in the main hall.
Lineup was relatively weak to my likings, given a Friday. I sessioned with an average 6 Rom girl. No real stunners, and most average 5-7.
No 8-9 like GT; Acap. Given the relative distance to Switzerland, I guess all the young and fresh stock crossed the boarder to chase the strong CHF in Globe and Bums Alp.
Would I return, probably not. Will check out Safari or Sukura next time.
I'm a regular in the Hessen clubs, this time I decided to make my first visit to the Paradise.Still, mainly due to the facilities, I'm ready to give them a second chance and take a more representative sample.
Then again it was my first experience at Paradise... Paradise is like the size of Oase, with half the girls missing. IMHO.
If we are talking building interior then I would definitely give the edge to Paradise in terms of size over Oase by a long shot. If we are talking garden then yes, Oase is definitely bigger than Paradise on that angle.
I've been to Sakura several times over the summer and actually like it better than Paradise. About the same quality in looks and I think the attitude is better. Mostly Romainian girls but not sharky and pretty good GFE with most that I have sessioned with.
On with my question. I am working within walking distance of FKK Phonix (FKK Stuttgart) this trip and was wondering if anyone can give me the pricing structure (including extras) these days and their opinion on how it compares to Paradise and Sakura. I actually like slumming it at times and will take a 6-7 with a great attitude over a 9 with a poor attitude any day.
Thanks!
Hessen Bub
09-02-12, 18:01
Never been to Phoenix. All you read is that it is a fairly small and filthy place in the city center, in a small house, several floors with small rooms and lots of stairs to climb.
Admission is 40 EUR and half an hour is 55 EUR. Extras should be the same as at Sakura or Paradise.
HB
Hi Guys,
Any fresh reports about fkk paradise?
How was the staff?
Any advice?
Thanks in advance.
Naykan
I was there in the summer. When the BBQ season was on, found the lineup average 70 girls on Friday night. Most were 7/8's a few 8. 5
But no stunners like GT / ACA or Aprod (Zurich). But the best looking models were in the Porsche museum.
I found Sukura FKK a better place, smaller but facilities and layout very good.
Hi Guys,
Any fresh reports about fkk paradise?
How was the staff?
Any advice?
Thanks in advance.
Naykan
Hessen Bub
12-07-12, 10:05
I was there last week. Line-Up was pretty good. Found a couple of nice girls to fuck.
HB
Visited FKK Paradise in Echterdingen close to Stuttgart Airport end of February. Took a taxi from the airport and the place is close by, costing me around 11 Euros.
As I walked out of the taxi, my heart was pounding, since this was my first ever visit to a FKK and I have read so much about it here and other forums and I have wanted to visit for a long time. The entrance is up a few stairs.
Inside is a nice ambiance, well decorated, clean and tidy everywhere. Reading that this is one of the largest FKK's I was somewhat disappointed about the size, though the club is decent size.
In the locker room, there is a small safe inside the locker you have been provided for storing valuables. I took a shower, rapped the morning gown aronund me and walked into the club. Since this was my first visit, I was shown around by a Russian girl. On the tour a blond german girl caught my eyes. Although it is acting, it's amazing that a club full of naked / half naked women are smiling at you and try to get you laid (for money, of course). I arrived around 12:30 and I would guess around 10-14 girls where present.
I took my time, had some food, which was ok, but nothing to rave about. After food I walked around the locations, constantly scanning the area for eye candy. Finally I decided for the german girl I saw during the tour. I invited her to the bed swing and we layed there for around 10 minutes chatting before I suggested to go to a room. In the room I was very nervous, something Jorina noticed. She was very accomodating and sweet and put me to easy. A quick BBBJ got junior stiff, on with condom and some CBJ. I am a doggie man, so I entered this blonde goddess from behind with her ass facing the window where some sunshine entered through a opening in the curtains. I was rock hard after taking some natural herb tablets and gave her a good 5 min of pounding in this position enjoying the view. Then some more CBJ, me standing and her on knees giving head. Beautiful sight! Then she layed on her side, I spread her legs slightly and entered her. Some minutes here, then missionary, first normal then with her legs on my shoulders, all the time me pounding her real hard. Then side again, before I finished in doggie after around 25 min of hard work. Excellent first experience in a FKK!
Before arriving I had set my eyes on Danielle from Austria, but she had still not arrived when I finished my session with Jorina.
To be continued when I have more time.
Steverino1968
03-17-13, 22:22
Visited FKK Paradise in Echterdingen close to Stuttgart Airport end of February. Took a taxi from the airport and the place is close by, costing me around 11 Euros.
As I walked out of the taxi, my heart was pounding, since this was my first ever visit to a FKK and I have read so much about it here and other forums and I have wanted to visit for a long time. The entrance is up a few stairs.
Inside is a nice ambiance, well decorated, clean and tidy everywhere. Reading that this is one of the largest FKK's I was somewhat disappointed about the size, though the club is decent size.
In the locker room, there is a small safe inside the locker you have been provided for storing valuables. I took a shower, rapped the morning gown aronund me and walked into the club. Since this was my first visit, I was shown around by a Russian girl. On the tour a blond german girl caught my eyes. Although it is acting, it's amazing that a club full of naked / half naked women are smiling at you and try to get you laid (for money, of course). I arrived around 12:30 and I would guess around 10-14 girls where present.
I took my time, had some food, which was ok, but nothing to rave about. After food I walked around the locations, constantly scanning the area for eye candy. Finally I decided for the german girl I saw during the tour. I invited her to the bed swing and we layed there for around 10 minutes chatting before I suggested to go to a room. In the room I was very nervous, something Jorina noticed. She was very accomodating and sweet and put me to easy. A quick BBBJ got junior stiff, on with condom and some CBJ. I am a doggie man, so I entered this blonde goddess from behind with her ass facing the window where some sunshine entered through a opening in the curtains. I was rock hard after taking some natural herb tablets and gave her a good 5 min of pounding in this position enjoying the view. Then some more CBJ, me standing and her on knees giving head. Beautiful sight! Then she layed on her side, I spread her legs slightly and entered her. Some minutes here, then missionary, first normal then with her legs on my shoulders, all the time me pounding her real hard. Then side again, before I finished in doggie after around 25 min of hard work. Excellent first experience in a FKK!
Before arriving I had set my eyes on Danielle from Austria, but she had still not arrived when I finished my session with Jorina.
To be continued when I have more time.I read your post with interest. Paradise was my first FKK experience, as well, two years ago, and I made a second visit last year. This place can be very hit-or-miss, depending on the girls in attendance and the experience level of the customer. The sharks in this pool can eat the 'weak' clients alive. Walking out into the large bar / lounge area the first time at around 10:00 PM was something of a sensory overload, what with all the beautiful, naked pussy on display. I tried to act cool as the first couple of girls stopped by to meet me, but the third girl, a gorgeous, big-titted Hungarian brunette sat down next to me and began stroking my cock, begging me to fuck her. I was rock hard when she spread her legs to let me admire her gaping pussy. How could I resist? We found a vacant room, and as I lied on the bed, she got on top of me in 69 position and ground her pussy into my face – clean shaven and delicious! She then administered an expert uncovered blowjob as I furiously tongue fucked her. After a little while, she tensed up, removed her mouth from my cock, and began fingering herself to what seem like an genuine orgasm while riding my tongue and soaking my face with her love juices. She regained her composure and in her sexy Hungarian accent thanked me and said that she 'needed' to taste my sperm right away. How could I say 'no? ' She then began to suck me while gazing lovingly at me and giving me encouragement – 'Please, baby, come in my mouth. I so hungry for you sperrrrm' Her deep throat skills were amazing and I let loose a torrent of hot sperm just as she took me all the way down her throat to the balls. Taking her by surprise, this caused her to gag. She got off my cock and proceeded to cough up half my load and involuntarily swallowed the other half – followed by a sperm burp! We both laughed out loud at what happened then cuddled for a few minutes before leaving the room. It cost me 100 Euro for maybe 20 minutes. It was a really good experience, but I resolved to do even better in round 2.
Returning to the lounge area, I began to realize that a good experience wasn't necessarily assured. Most of the best looking chicks were in high demand and many of the others were aloof, not willing to engage in any getting-to-know-you chit chat. It was a little discouraging. A number of less appealing girls walked by and made half-hearted offers, but I wasn't 'feeling it. ' Then a really cute Romanian blonde sat next to me and suggested a threesome with her and her friend. That sounded interesting, but when she brought her friend over, I was disappointed. The friend was kind of chubby and not to my taste. I then told the blonde that maybe I'the do a threesome with her and one of the other girls in the club. I had never before been with two chicks at the same time, and I wanted to put that together if at all possible. She and I then walked around as I pointed out a number of girls that I found attractive, but the blonde couldn't get any of them to agree. Disappointed again, the blonde and I parted ways and I sat down on a sofa to the immediate left of a gorgeous, young, thin brunette. I tried striking up a conversation, but had no luck. She just sat there and ignored me. I was beginning to feel quite rejected when another hot brunette, sitting to the right of my target got up and sat back down on my immediate left, sandwiching me between herself and the first girl. She told me that she had overheard my attempt to chat up her friend, but that her friend couldn't speak any English, only German. She, however, would be willing to translate. She then introduced me to the first girl, whose name was Chloe, from Koln. Chloe was only 19 years old and hadn't been working in the clubs for very long. Her face and body were absolutely GORGEOUS, with B+ size tits, absolutely no excess fat on her, and a pussy shaved to hairless perfection. You could bounce a quarter off her ass; it was THAT tight. I rate Chloe's looks as 9+. The English speaking friend, whose name I forget, said she was 25 and from Dusseldorf, and I would rate her as a solid 8 in terms of looks, with a landing strip of pubic hair above her pussy lips. After a little more chit chat, I brought up the threesome idea. Chloe initially refused, but the 25 year old was completely on board and convinced Chloe to give it a go. The cost would be 50 Euro apiece for a half hour, plus another 50 apiece for lesbi action. I agreed and we headed off to the room.
I got on the bed, joined by the two girls, who then began their 'lesbi' show. I put the word lesbi in quotes because the show was initially very tame and unsatisfying with the girls facing each other naked on their knees, caressing each other's shoulders and asses. After this continued on for five minutes, I realized that I needed to apply some direction if this party were to get properly off the ground. I mentioned to the older, English speaking girl that I'the like to see them get more intimate. When she asked what I wanted, I told her that I'the like to see them eat each other's pussies, for starters. She said she'the LOVE to, but when she explained to Chloe what was up, the little 19-year-old beauty looked like she was about to go into shock. I learned then that Chloe had never been with another woman, but her friend promised to 'break her in right, ' and pulled a dildo and vibrator out of her bag. Things then got a WHOLE lot more interesting as the older girl lay Chloe on her back and dove into her young pussy like a starving dog on a prime steak! Chloe had this strange look of disbelief on her face as the other girl went down on her with tongue and vibrator. Chloe's pussy proceeded to get VERY wet and she apparently had an orgasm, at the same time appearing to be ashamed to be enjoying her first lesbi experience. The older girl then completely took over as our 'porno director. ' Pulling back Chloe's leg to expose her now gaping, glistening love hole, she guided my cock into the target as she lowered her pussy onto Chloe's face and began to DFK me at the same time, giving me a taste of Chloe's love juices straight off her lips. This was incredible, but there was more to come! The 'director' then got on her back, put Chloe on top in a 69 position, then had me alternately fuck her pussy and then Chloe's mouth in continuous pussy-to-other-girl's-mouth action. It was HOT. She then had Chloe mount me reverse cowgirl. Bending Chloe over fully, she then inserted the lubed vibrator into Chloe's ass as I continued to fuck her! She turned the vibrator on and the feeling was almost indescribable. I could feel the vibrations cavitate from Chloe's ass, though her pussy walls, and into my cock. Recalling the sight of Chloe getting double penetrated by cock and vibrator gets me hard just thinking about it. Anyway, this really seemed to turn the young girl on, making her pussy cream all over my cock. We finished with Chloe lying on her back, sucking my balls, while the other girl administered an outstanding blowjob with full-on deep throat action. Right when I was about to blow, the older girl removed her mouth and jacked me off onto Chloe's beautiful young face. She then proceeded to DFK the little teenager and massaged my sperm into her complexion. Each girl's face was a sperm soaked mess!
As we were cleaning up, Chloe pointed out through her friend that we went 10 minutes overtime – 40 minutes rather than the originally planned 30 – which meant that each girl was entitled to 200 Euro instead of 100 for the session. Yes, in all the excitement, we did, in fact, run overtime. Frankly, I would have appreciated some advance notice, but that didn't happen. Had I been warned, I might well have opted to continue on at 200 Euro apiece for a FULL hour, rather than only 40 minutes. As it turned out, I paid a total of 400 Euro for the 40 minute session as described. I have to admit I felt a bit shortchanged, but contented myself in the knowledge of having utterly DEFILED 19-year-old Chloe in the process. If ever I got another chance with her, I intended to recoup the value of those 'lost' 20 minutes. After settling with the two girls, it was late and I headed back to my hotel.
My second and only other visit to Paradise was last year, and was again a tale of two completely different encounters. Entering the club at around 3:00 PM, I didn't see much to my taste until my eyes fell upon Chloe from Koln, looking as gorgeous as she had the previous year! Perhaps I would indeed get another chance with her. She had picked up some broken English since I had last seen her, but still needed another girl to help translate. I learned that she had turned 20, usually stayed in Koln, and worked Paradise only infrequently. She said she would like to 'room' with me, but had just agreed to a session with another fellow and didn't know when she'the be free. Just then, a 60-year-old German guy walked over, took Chloe by the hand, and disappeared with her upstairs, never to be seen again by me. Damn! Looking around for another target, I spied Sandy from Stuttgart sitting at the bar. This girl was like a Playboy model – blonde ethnic German with D-cups and flawless figure and skin. I'the call her a level 10 optickfuck. Unlike the other girls, she wasn't nude on full display. She wore a skirt and bustier. Though beautiful, I found her to be bold cold and rude. I sat next to her, but she ignored me. I then introduced myself, to which she responded by asking that I buy her a bottle of champagne, which I declined. When I inquired about a session, she demanded a minimum 2 hours and informed me she doesn't kiss, DATY, or suck cock. She'the only do straight sex in missionary position. She told me to take it or leave it, then turned her back on me. What a *****! I wanted to ask her where she got such a high and mighty attitude, her being just a common working girl and all, but I let it go. Feeling stung, I hung around drinking orange juice and looking for another prospect.
After a while, I noticed another beautiful girl. A honey blonde with long silky hair – sitting at the bar. For the longest time, she didn't seem to be doing anything at all, just occasionally chatting with the massage guy, who seemed to be on break. She seemed approachable from her demeanor, so I sat next to her and introduced myself. She received me with a smile and a hug – what a sweet girl! I learned that her name was Lusi, from the Czech Republic, and that she was 22. She told me how disappointed she was that no one seemed interested in her and that she had made nearly no money at all since having arrived at the club the previous week. This seemed impossible, given how beautiful she was – perfect face, natural D-cup tits, an ass to die for, and a perfectly bare pussy. She was completely nude for my viewing pleasure except for high heels and a decorative chain around her waist. For me, she was PERFECTION, especially considering her friendly disposition. She mentioned that she was thirsty, so I purchased a 12 Euro drink for her and we continued our conversation. She told me that she thought she wasn't popular on account of the fact that she didn't speak either good German or good English, but her English was good enough for us to communicate. She then asked if I would session with her. When I agreed, she thanked me with a hug and a kiss and led me upstairs. I spent the next 2 HOURS with this girl, very happy to have met her.
Being with Lusi was like being with a girlfriend. She told me a lot about her life in the Czech Republic. She came from a working class background – her father was a truck driver – and she had a boyfriend back home, but didn't know if she would keep or dump him. He was uneducated / unemployed, and Lusi doubted if he could ever support a family. This, in fact, is why she came to Germany. She was trying to save money in order to build a better life, and there was no employment option for people like her, other than prostitution, that offered any reasonable opportunity to do that. Her family and friends back home had no idea what she was really doing – they thought she was working as a chambermaid. And she said she'the die of shame if they ever found out, but she didn't think she had much choice. No girl as beautiful as Lusi would EVER have to work as a chambermaid in the USA. Nevertheless, she was so open and he story seemed so believable that I think it must have been true. After starting off giving me a massage, she began to kiss me on my lips, then chest, then made her way lower until she put my cock in her mouth. Though she couldn't deep throat, her cock sucking made for a very sensuous experience, with lots of saliva, ball and shaft licking, and staring directly into my eyes. It was very erotic, especially when I began to stroke her pussy and got her aroused. She said she normally doesn't allow FIV, but I was such a kind, respectable gentleman and she was really getting off on it. So I continued administering a pussy massage as she continued to suck my cock. I eventually worked in one, then two, three, then FOUR fingers inside her. She was SOAKING WET, and drenched the towel she spread over the bed. She then begged me to put my whole fist up her pussy. As I did what I was told, she began to furiously rub her clit while still sucking my cock. The feeling and visuals were so exciting I blew my load into her mouth. After draining every last drop of sperm, Lusi rolled onto her back with my fist up her pussy and diddled herself to orgasm, which I could feel as her internal spasms engulfed my whole hand. As she was lying on her back, recovering, I leaned over her and asked her to open her mouth. My cum load was still in there! She was about to get up and spit, but I stopped her. I had her play with it for my viewing pleasure, squishing it between her teeth and gargling it before swallowing. That was HOT. Lusi then admitted that she felt somewhat guilty. She had never let anyone cum in her mouth before, except her boyfriend. She also admitted that she seldom achieved orgasm and that the one she had while I fisted her was the most intense she could remember. Maybe it was an act, but it seemed believable. I told her not to worry; it would be our little secret. Anyway, we enjoyed three more sessions with me coming in her pussy at the end of each (covered) after coming in her mouth that first time. It was an amazing sight, watching my cock disappear from different angles into her hairless pussy hole and having her apparently enjoy the whole experience. In between sessions, we cuddled and made pillow talk, which seemed so very intimate. Lusi was so sweet and genuine, I would have married her right then if given the chance. Two hours of bliss with Lusi cost me $250 Euro, for which she was VERY grateful, after which we ate dinner together and chatted some. She didn't have any other sessions and at 12:00 AM she kissed me good night and retired to her room and went to bed.
Things then went from the sublime to the awful. At around 1:00 AM I was feeling up to another session and began seriously scouting the remaining talent. Things had thinned out by then, but there appeared this mid to late twenties strawberry blonde. Her tits were fake Ds, but the surgeon did an excellent job and the rest of her body was nice and tight. She invited me to sit next to her, after which she told me she was from Moldova and proceeded to list all the dirty things she wanted to do with me. She talked a full-on PSE game which got me rock hard and I followed her upstairs. In the room, however, it all fell to pieces. She only gave covered blow jobs, no DATY, and no cowgirl. I tried fingering her clit, but she slapped my hand away. After I complained, she put a condom on my finger and grudgingly allowed access, but she repeatedly pulled away whenever I got too deep inside her pussy for her liking. It was all such a turn-off. I was able to come from the covered BJ only after convincing her to reluctantly get in a 69 position so I could look at her wide open pussy as she sucked away. Even then, I had to promise to not attempt to lick her. I came at the 25-minute mark, but it wasn't especially enjoyable. Afterward, she followed me to my locker, as is customary for this place, to collect her payment. Once I retrieved my wallet from the small safe in my locker, she informed me that the fee would be 100 Euro. I replied that I understood 50 Euro to be the standard fee for the services provided. She then angrily objected that FIV with condom was an 'extra' service cost an additional 50 Euro. She never said so and that hadn't been my experience with any other FKK girl, but I relented and gave her the 100 Euro to avoid a scene. Taking the money, she attempted half-heartedly to hug me until I told her to 'get lost' and gently pushed her away. She got the message, said she was sorry, and walked away. Yeah, she was 'sorry, ' but she still kept the money.
So, what do I think of Paradise? It could be the best of times, or it could be the worst of times. It all depends on the talent on any given day and the client's sophistication in getting the best value for his money. Though I've twice been to Paradise, I've been to Sakura four times and never had a bad experience there, making Sakura my preferred destination when in the Stuttgart area. Of my eight total sessions at Sakura, one was mixed and the seven others rated very good to outstanding. Even with my mixed session at Sakura, the girl (Lara) was such an incredibly beautiful 18-year-old, straight out of high school, that there was plenty of redeeming virtue to be had. Paradise is more expensive than Sakura, and the food is better at Paradise, but the overall atmosphere at Sakura lends itself, I think, to a better experience, without any sharkiness or possibility of rip-offs.
Sorry to clutter up the thread but I just wanted to congratulate you, Steverino, on a lovely report, rightly chosen by Yakob as a Report of Distinction. It's encounters with girls like Czech Lusi which make FKK visits worthwhile
Steverino1968, I have placed your repirt in the Reports of Disntinction ans I also like Optinist would like to thank you for the wonderfil report. Well read.
Steverino1968
03-30-13, 19:29
Sorry to clutter up the thread but I just wanted to congratulate you, Steverino, on a lovely report, rightly chosen by Yakob as a Report of Distinction. It's encounters with girls like Czech Lusi which make FKK visits worthwhileThanks for the kind words, Optimist. As always, YMMV, but I've generally found that, by showing a little consideration, it's possible (though not guaranteed) to have a connection with a girl. Lusi was one such case. I try to give the girls a good time. Though pros, they're not necessarily immune to sexual desire. Any girl who is genuinely getting off on the encounter invariables shows me a much better time than otherwise.
CheekyDancer
05-08-13, 00:59
Leg one of my mini tour took me back to a club I had previously been to a few times before. FKK Paradise. As I understand it they are the same owners as Palace in Frankfurt. I was there for three days this time and
The things I like about this club are:
Size: There is always plenty of space to find somewhere quiet when recharging the batteries or reading a book.
Food: This is in plentiful supply even between meal times. They do a breakfast / brunch. Then a bit of lunch and an evening meal. All pretty average fair and won't be winning any awards but is always more than comforting. There is always lots of fruit, bread, cakes, yogurt etc to snack on too. The food in here really does make you feel like you are getting your money's worth. Personally I am not a huge eater.
Convenience to hotels: There are a number of hotels close to Paradise. Hotel Ibis, Holiday inn and within walking distance. As I spend most of my time relaxing in the club the hotel for me really is only a place to sleep. So I stay at an Airport hotel up the road that has a little pension attached to the side of it. 39 Euro per night with a reasonable breakfast included. It is called Pension zum Heurigen and can be booked as cheap as 29 Euro per night. The hotel is called Airport Hotel 33 Echterdingen. When picking up keys for the Pension one must go to the hotel. Also for breakfast.
Girls: I have only once experienced upsell in this place. While the line up is not tip top tommy. It is reasonable. I always find plenty of girls to suit my taste and manage to leave thinking about another 5 I should have tapped.
So.
Day 1
I arrived at the club and paid my 79 Euro entrance fee. Off I pop to the changing room. In there one finds a full sized locker and safe. In the showers and out on the prowl. As usual I make the mistake of sitting at the bar and having a Coffee right away which never agrees with me.
The girls are not to pushy in here and seem to understand that 'maybe later' twice in an evening means a polite 'I'm not interested in you but thanks anyway'.
So after settling in and having a Sauna I pick out my first girl.
Harmony or Amony 165cm 23 Blonde natural B cups, Slim body with soft as silk skin and a bum so nice you want to frame it. Romainian.
I had been with this girl on a previous visit and spent and hour and a half with her. So this time we went for an hour. She was happy to kiss and sex was good. Lots of different positions and very GFE. BBBJ was good to. Looks 8, Performance 8, Repeat yes. Not the PSE type of girl. 1 hr 100 Euro + tip.
Francesca 24 168cm Blonde Natural D cups and a fine set. Voluptuous body. Italian though I doubt it.
First time with Francesca but what a result. I had knocked back a few glasses of wine by the time we got a room together so I was all over her like a Leotard on a fat chick. She is one of those girls that enjoys sex if the right guy comes along and was up for anything. So she got it all, Anal from every angle I think I could fuck her with it. I think I pretty much acted out a full porn movie scene with her including gagging, gaping and candle stick making. She got right off on it and was left shaking like a shitting Dog and wetter than an Otters pocket. Eye contact all the way through. Amazing GFE / PSE. While not an absolute stunner she was very beautiful to have sex with. A true gem. Looks 7. 5, Performace 9. 9, Repeat hell yes. No Optifuk but if all the girls were like this in FKK's I would move to Germany. Awesome. 200 Euro + tip.
Day 2.
Can't remember this girls name but Romanian, Small tattoo on the small of her back. 176cm blonde, Slim, small C cups 80's Crimped hair.
Did an hour with her too. Nothing to much to write about DFK, Multiple positions, Maybe a hint of upsell in that she wanted me to buy her a drink. Other than that really nice girl. Good personality. Looks 8, performance 7, Repeat Maybe. 1 hr 100 Euro + tip.
Paris but on the website her name is Regina which she hates. Apparently they got it wrong and put she was from Paris. Romanian, Dark Brown hair. 20 Natural B cups. 172cm Slim.
Optifuk. One of those girls that you could just look at all day long. Naturally beautiful. Not in a Plastic fantastic way but OMG beautiful. Still very young and lacked experience. But seriously I would have paid just to sit and look at her. Great personality. DFK, BBBJ, Multi pos. With her eye makeup the way it was and the necklace she was wearing she looked almost Egyptian. Could easily played Cleopatra in a movie. 1 hr 100 + tip.
Looks 9. 9 (And I prefer blondes) , Performance 7, Repeat Maybe.
Day 3.
I don't know how the hell this happens but I always seem to end up charity fucking some ugly chick when I go FKK clubs. I think they catch me off guard. Start messing around with my dick, talking about deep throat and slobbery wet blow jobs and before I know it I am banging some fat chick and wondering how I got here.
I can't even remember this girls name. Chubby. 165cm, Fake the cups, Blonde, Says she is from Albania but is Romanian. Useless kisser. Went mental when I touched her nipples. I think she has a screw loose. BBBJ useless. I ended up turning her around and banging her from behind as I could stand listening to her and didn't like her face. Even after that I had to pull out and get the hell out of there because she smelled like a fish market or a pot of Copydex glue. Looks 4, Performance 2, Repeat No nonny NO! Stay away from the Pig.
Francesca Repeat. Awesome.
Well that concludes my Paradise trip. Stay tuned as I am off to Palace then Oase this week.
Indi Companion
05-08-13, 10:32
Girls: I have only once experienced upsell in this place. While the line up is not tip top tommy. It is reasonable. I always find plenty of girls to suit my taste and manage to leave thinking about another 5 I should have tapped.Great report CheekyDancer, thanks a lot. Plenty of useful information here.
Interesting how you never experienced upsell here, indeed I experienced the opposite when I went there a few times but I am missing the place since more than one year so it is possible things finally changed a bit. I will visit it for sure on my summer trip!
This Francesca may be alone worth a stop over in Paradise. LOL!
Have fun in Palace, Oase is a bit down in my opinion over these days but still a good place to visit. If I may suggest get also to visit one out of Sharks, Mainhattan and World. You may be nicely surprised.
CheekyDancer
05-08-13, 11:51
Great report CheekyDancer, thanks a lot. Plenty of useful information here.
Interesting how you never experienced upsell here, indeed I experienced the opposite when I went there a few times but I am missing the place since more than one year so it is possible things finally changed a bit. I will visit it for sure on my summer trip!
This Francesca may be alone worth a stop over in Paradise. LOL!
Have fun in Palace, Oase is a bit down in my opinion over these days but still a good place to visit. If I may suggest get also to visit one out of Sharks, Mainhattan and World. You may be nicely surprised.Thanks Indi. As I was mentioning to someone else before. I try to be quite direct about what I want and always try to get the girls to get excited about telling what they do and how much it costs. I also think asking if it is OK to do an hour right away throws them off trying to upsell during a session.
I was also reading about Mainhatten, World and Sharks. World is supposed to have some real stunners. I haven't decided on how long I will stay in Frankfurt so I may well give them all a try. If I can muster the energy that is. I might take a rest day after Oase. Any recommendations on things to do in Frankfurt outside of FKK's. I have just arrived and it looks like a beautiful city.
Indi Companion
05-08-13, 12:08
Thanks Indi. As I was mentioning to someone else before. I try to be quite direct about what I want and always try to get the girls to get excited about telling what they do and how much it costs. I also think asking if it is OK to do an hour right away throws them off trying to upsell during a session.
I was also reading about Mainhatten, World and Sharks. World is supposed to have some real stunners. I haven't decided on how long I will stay in Frankfurt so I may well give them all a try. If I can muster the energy that is. I might take a rest day after Oase. Any recommendations on things to do in Frankfurt outside of FKK's. I have just arrived and it looks like a beautiful city.Plenty of things to be done in Frankfurt and nearby. You have some nice museums, to visit for sure in my opinion the Städel Art Museum and the German Museum of Architectur. If the weather is nice you can also take a walk along the river. Even better you may rent a bicicle. Lot of places where relax, have a beer and eat something local as wella s sunbathing.
Frankfurt is not a very beatiful town in an historical meaning and from the point of view of monuments but for sure you can spend a day in relax. Then, for example, close to Oase in Bad Homburg thereare reasonably nice thermae where you can relax and spend a few hours, taking a massage between swimming and steaming baths.
Last but not least, World has some stunners but remember that this week, in each club, the lineups will be pretty poor because most of the Romanian girls are on holiday.
Hessen Bub
05-08-13, 15:56
If you have a car why not visit Wiesbaden and Mainz and in the summer take a tour through the vineyards in the Rheingau? Good wine, good food, nice small pictoresque towns / villages, go to Schloss Vollrads and Schloss Johannisberg, Kloster Eberbach (set of "The Name Of The Rose" from Umberto Eco) , Eltville etc.
HB
AlwaysLookin
05-09-13, 21:33
I haven't been to this club in a long time. Last time 6 months ago and it heavy RO.
Before that, I was regular from July 2011 to Dec 2011 when this club was full of complete knock out.
Has the lineup improved?
I newer planned Paradise. But due to business circumstances I will stay tomorrow (Sunday) in Stuttgart. I realize that after World's 10th Anniversary Party Paradise might look depressive. However, any suggestions? I hope I should not fill my stomach before visit. Should I?
Hessen Bub
06-01-13, 19:28
I like the club. Quiet during the day. Definitly quieter than World at the party. Food is great.
HB
Food is great. HBThat's what I need to know before enter the club. Everything else will be clarified after.
Finally I've got there. Positively surprised.
Club is big, but not as huge as I realized after reading some posts here. Décor rather eclectic. I would say its layout is perfect if not so high backs of the sofas. These high backs restrict observations. A bit darker than I like.
Many small pleasant things. For example: small self-serve drink bar with the pitches of juices and water in wellness area right in front of Jacuzzi. Plenty of towels available everywhere you might need them. There is towels rack in the shower. Not "by the shower", but right in the shower.
Water in Jacuzzi just right. Good temperature and not as much chlorine as in Sharks. But Start button located on the wall. If you want extend you time you have to leave Jacuzzi walk to the wall and push button again. A bit stupid.
Very comfortable recliners in wellness area.
Excellent food including fruit and cheese bars, some fancy salads, desserts.
Line up above expectation. After reading posts in this tread I was prepared to average lineup especially on Sunday. But at least 20 girls would be very competitive in FRA. Five are models on my test. Girls are not sharky at all. Few girls softly approached me once. They just introduced themselves but did not push me to the room.
Three sessions and all three good to excellent.
1. Daniela. German girl. She is average looking girl, but she animated me right. Good honest session. Tried to upsell CIM. When I come natural way into condom she demonstrated how upset she is. This is exactly how she lost her tip.
2. Lavinia. She said that normally she works as Angelina (Angeline) in Globe. I would call her 'a model'. Long black hair, very tinted skin, excellent body, interesting face. I did not expect good service from her. But service was really great with long passionate DFK, responsive DATY, long FS an any position without restricting penetration. I tried DIGIT slowly, she slightly moved her pelvis. I am not sure was it "no" or not, but did not try anymore. Such a good girl, so I was nice to her either. Good service means good tip.
3. Anita (or Anika). Very close to be called 'a model'. She said she is half-Romanian half British. I don't care. Non-stop talker. In the room I found that she does not provide DFK. Normally I test this before to commit the session, but she was talking so much so I forgot to check. But indeed session was great. Excellent BBBJ and CG technic. I did not even changed position. Very rare case when I was passively lying on my back for almost 50 minutes and it was good.
All in all very positive experience. Would I return? If I am in the area definitely. But Stuttgart is not really common destination for me.
The only question. Why entrance to this club is 19€ more than to Sharks or 14€ more than to World? This is most expensive entrance fee I ever seen in Germany. It is 79€!
P. S. I met there that old ugly totally siliconed woman from World who says she is Italian. I forgot her name, but you know who I mean. She recognized me, said "hello" but did not approach, knowing that I am definitely not her customer.
Hessen Bub
06-04-13, 08:45
The only question. Why entrance to this club is 19€ more than to Sharks or 14€ more than to World? This is most expensive entrance fee I ever seen in Germany. It is 79€!Less competition. That's all. Artemis in Berlin charges 80€ entrance fee. And at Paradise cappuccino and caffe latte are 2€ extra! Ridiculous. But food is great, club is clean, rooms are nice. Was the "snow grotto" in operation?
HB
Was the "snow grotto" in operation? HBI believe I saw sign like that, but did not pay attention. What is that? What I missed? Should I go tomorrow there again to see that "snow grotto" or follow my original plan to Sakura?
Hessen Bub
06-05-13, 10:18
I believe I saw sign like that, but did not pay attention. What is that? What I missed? Should I go tomorrow there again to see that "snow grotto" or follow my original plan to Sakura?It's just a small room next to the showers behind the sauna with snow in it. Have you been to Sakura? I'd prefer a second visit to Paradise. Even without the snow-grotto.
HB
It's just a small room next to the showers behind the sauna with snow in it. Have you been to Sakura? I'd prefer a second visit to Paradise. Even without the snow-grotto.
HBI am tired to drive from Bologna. So I ended up in B&B in Freiburg and in a few minutes will go to Palast. Maybe this is mistake, but different experience in any case scenario. What I like in Germany that you can make decision as you drive.
This club features near the start of this documentry, along with various other types of sex clubs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sqhynn54HVc
Member #4585
08-17-13, 09:38
P. S. I met there that old ugly totally siliconed woman from World who says she is Italian. I forgot her name, but you know who I mean. She recognized me, said "hello" but did not approach, knowing that I am definitely not her customer.Do you mean Silvana?
Decided to make a visit to Paradise to see what was goung down.
Sun was up so the mood was positive.
Paid the 79 euro fee and settled into the club to find that at 1pm on a Saturday was a shit line up. It was the usual non descript small black haired Romanians that dominated the line up.
Only salvation is the food is plentiful and palatable and had in its own dining area. In evening there was barbeque in the terrace which is looking like a car park area. The deck area has mattresses and beds with curtains for intimate sex encounters. The sun was well hot for a nice nap in sunshine.
Caught up with Silvana who I last saw at World earlier in the year. She did well harrassing all the customers until one succumbed. She definitely is an Italian lady.
Had a sauna and cooled off in the snow grotto which is essentially a big walk in fridge. Live the three kinds of drinks just outside the sauna that are cooled on ice bed. There is still water, apple juice or orange juice.
Great having an ample supply if towels in the wellness area. In the men's showers there is a rack of fresh towels there too.
Met Danielle from Germany who was a bit too chunky for my tastes.
Other forgettable Romanians approached but none were to my tastes.
Had a nap.
The massage prices are 5 euro higher than expected with 35 euro per half hour instead of 30 euro in Hessen and many NRW clubs. When I went to Sakura the prices for massage was 10 euro per half hour cheaper at 25 euro per half hour. So Paradise loses out here being more costly.
Nice to have big screen in the main lounge and the separation of smoking in the lounge area from smokers bar and non smokers in the TV part of the lounge.
Left the club not fucking any sex provider. The line out was that bad. What a waste of 79 euro entry.
Feedback to Paradise is get more pretty sex providers to work there rather than second tier girls.
Other problem was in a Saturday it seemed like it was dessous tag since girls could wear full dresses or tops that covered their breasta. Not a FKK nude rule seems to be place is not. It seems bottoms were bare except for those in dresses but tops could be covered. Not sure I want a FKK to be like that. Disappointed there too.
Left the club not fucking any sex provider. The line out was that bad. What a waste of 79 euro entry.
Feedback to Paradise is get more pretty sex providers to work there rather than second tier girls.Just to be pernickety,"line out" is a term used in the sport of Rugby. You should be using "line-up". Just kidding. ;) "Line-out" is unusual but acceptable. Your English has been pretty damn good lately (mostly).
Getting away from such trivia, is your objective to try every FKK in Germany? Or a more limited selection? Its obviously a bit pointless if they don't have fuckable girls. You must be getting rather fussy and requiring models only? LOL.
Years ago, I used to frequent FKK-Phoenix Stuttgart (before I even heard of ISG) and even though the club itself was very tiny with shitty cubicles / rooms, they did have some fuckable girls, back then. I had my first and best experience with Alice (Dom) , of the Palace, there. She actually gave a good GFE once a long time ago. FKK-Dream was not too good (fatties) , and FKK Fellbach was average (not enough girls).
FKK-Dream was not too good (fatties) , and FKK Fellbach was average (not enough girls).Correction."FKK Fellbach" should have been "FKK-Haus" (Fellbach) as you would know. Was 2004/2005 and at that time FKK Haus had too few girls. FKK Phoenix was better for girls even though facilities were poor (who cares). Some of the Phoenix girls are probably still there. LOL I will check some day. So I first tried Alice(Dom) in 2004 as she was definitely the best looking black girl at Phoenix. I guess she moved to Palace not so long after that. Some other nice Dominican, Brazilian, Jamaican, Hatian, and Cuban girls though. Two of the Thai girls were good, also good German, Turkish, Ukrainian, Bulgarian, Iranian, Italian (a very exotic mix) and strangely I don't remember any Romanian girls at all despite having tried 25 girls approx. Perhaps because Romania joined EU later than that. A couple of "Italian" girls possibly were really Romanian or similar.
I guess this was a few years before Paradise opened.
Phoenix had some really hot girls in 2005. Cindy was a 10, Eva 9, and about five 8s Including Alice (had the looks but not best performance).
Other problem was in a Saturday it seemed like it was dessous tag since girls could wear full dresses or tops that covered their breasta. Not a FKK nude rule seems to be place is not. It seems bottoms were bare except for those in dresses but tops could be covered. Not sure I want a FKK to be like that. Disappointed there too.Website suggest that Monday is Glamour Night: "Freut Euch auf einen atemberaubenden Abend mit Top Girls I'm Abendkleid." I haven't found any special info about Saturdays. Can anybody comment?
Hessen Bub
09-02-13, 08:50
Saturday is a normal day, no dessous, no dresses. If girls are not fully nude then this is for all the days, Paradise doesn't enforce nudity as much as World.
HB
Hotels are more than double-priced and very few options available for this week. Definitely some sort of event is going there. An why body knows what is that? And how this will affect crowd in Paradise and Sakura?
Hessen Bub
09-12-13, 22:05
BondExPo and Motek fairs coming up. Paradise may be affected after 8pm. Sakura probably at normal status.
HB
I am planning to be there on Saturday Oct 5th. This is a day of awaiting boxing fight Klitchko-Povetkin. Do they have a sport channel on large screen? Will they show this fight? Or I'd rather think about other club? Which one? It must be on extension Stuttgart-Munich.
Hello,
Which is the best FKK in Germany for a first time newbie, any advice by senior experienced members will be much appreciated. Also is November too cold for a visit, prefer a place that is easily accessible by public transport. And do I need separate Hotel accommodation?
Thanks guys. I will report back.
What happening in Stuttgart on the week of Oct7th? Hotels are more than double-priced and very few options available for this week. Definitely some sort of event is going there. An why body knows what is that? And how this will affect crowd in Paradise and Sakura?Http://www.cannstatter-volksfest.de/
I expect Paradise to be a little bit more crowded at night.
PussyLiccker
10-05-13, 16:08
I just checked out the girls that showed up tonight on their website, and only a small fraction are Romanian. Most of them are German or Hungarian. I belive most of the mongers on this forums goes to either FRA or DUSS. I really need to check this place out.
Sakura will definitely be showing this game.
I am planning to be there on Saturday Oct 5th. This is a day of awaiting boxing fight Klitchko-Povetkin. Do they have a sport channel on large screen? Will they show this fight? Or I'd rather think about other club? Which one? It must be on extension Stuttgart-Munich.
You can always call, but last time I was in Paradise I remember posters advertising a boxing match. I've also seen them been broadcast in World for what it's worth.
You can always call, but last time I was in Paradise I remember posters advertising a boxing match. I've also seen them been broadcast in World for what it's worth.I was so stupid so I changed my plan to Hawaii. Saturday evening was a disaster there. But at least I watched boxing comfortably sitting very close to the screen in company of Russian guys that I met there.
I was in Stuttgart and I know the options are not great as in the Golden Triangle. I tried Sakura before and was planning to go there again. But at the last moment, I read good reports about Paradise so I thought to give it a try after my Palace visit 2 days before.
The visit was on 23 December and I was there around 9pm. I was disappointed to find out it was a Desous day which is not what is mentioned on their website. The selection was not great and the girls said that many girls are travelling and will be back by mid January.
The first girl was from Hungary. She was not great, but I wanted to start the night. We had the session at Kino and once she took off her clothes, her body was not as I expected. She was kind of rushing and I did not cum. Though of saving it for later.
After that I spent a long time trying to find another option but was very difficult to find a good option. All girls came up to me and introduced themselves and had some nice touches but I was not interested. Then, I saw a couple of girls at the bar with 2 guys chatting for a looong time. These were interesting. The first one was very attractive and seemed to have big pair which is my specs. The other one was a MILF but very attractive and both had a very bubbly attitude and speaking with the German regulars in German all the night. Later, the younger girl took off her top and I was right; she had very nice rack. I tried getting their attention without offending the guys but could not as later, they opened a bottle of champagne and it was obvious that they are taken.
I moved on and had to choose one of the girls that I had a chat with her earlier. We went for the room upstairs and it was an ok session.
All in all, the experience was not great and cannot be compared with the bigger clubs. However, for Stuttgart, I think other than Christmas, it can be a good option.
While I was leaving around midnight, I was seeing more punters coming in to join.
Hessen Bub
01-04-14, 08:48
I wouldn't give a general rating of any club based on a visit on December 23rd. One pf the slowest days of the year.
HB
On BBC's Newsnight show on 20/02/2014 there was a item on prostitution and thoughts on changes in the law in the UK. It featured a visit to Paradise in Stuttgart and an interview with a WG there.
They show work on a Paradise in Saarbrucken which is opening to exploit more cross border customers with the changes in French laws.
A short version of the visit is on the BBC news website at:-
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26261223
The full program is at the link below but it will only be up for a week and probably only viewable in the UK.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b03w7wd2/Newsnight_20_02_2014/
Are the girls naked or in topless in this club?
I'm searching girls with pierced nipples and pussy.
CheekyDancer
03-25-14, 22:59
Are the girls naked or in topless in this club?
I'm searching girls with pierced nipples and pussy.Topless and without panties most of the time. So you should be in luck.
Something went wrong in my last ad.
FKK Paradise seems to be the best FKK in the Stuttgart area. Also Sakura seems to be good according to the reports here.
What about FKK Safari in Fellbach and FKK Stuttgart (Marienstrasse) in the city centre?
Is it worth spending a day at these smaller FKK?
How are they compared to Paradise?
For me, it is ok if girls look like 7-8 (of 10) , but I want good service (GFE) and I dislike sharks.
Do the girls in Fkk Paradise approaching or waiting the guest?
Do the girls in Fkk Paradise approaching or waiting the guest?There are girls that do the former and there are some girls that do the latter and there are some girls that do both.
I am going to Stuttgart 10 days from now and want to try out at least one or two FKK's clubs there.
What is the main differences between Paradise and Sakura? How many girls work there, and where do I find certain types of girls? Are there younger girls at one place? Different service levels etc? What nationalities does the clubs have?
My first ever visit to an FKK Club took me to FKK Paradise in Stuttgart. I have nothing to compare it to yet, though that will soon change.
At the peak time there must have been about 30-40 girls working, most of them were 7's or 8's with the odd nine. They were all very friendly and of course as soon as I walked in they were all expecting me to fuck them one after the other.
It wasn't packed out with patrons, probably the same amount as the girls at any one time.
I fucked two girls, a blonde and a brunette. I'm shit with names so never try and remember their names. The blonde was fairly passive but the brunette went like a train.
Like I said, nothing to compare to but hope to remedy that PDQ.
Do the club have air conditioned in summer?
And also have a swimming pool and a summer garden?
They don't have a garden, but a roof terrace. No real pool either, but in summer the ice cave should be nice. Don't remember airco specifically, but also don't remember it being hot last August.
I was at Paradise on Sunday and have to say it was a pleasant stay. I sessioned with 2 girls. The first one was a Czech blonde who I cannot remember the name of. She told me she had worked in a night club in London in her past, but business was worse there than at Paradise. Her service was good and in a way she reminded me quite a bit of Marketa who used to work at Artemis. Just that she is younger and slightly skinnier and perhaps not as good looking. I'd give this girl an 8.
The second girl I sessioned was from Moldavia in Romania. If I remember correctly her name was Aisha, but I won't swear on that since I forgot to write it down. Blonde slim girl at 160 cm. Very sexy body with natural almost perfect tits who a guy I met at Paradise asked me if really were natural since they looked so good. We also had a great chemistry, even slightly better than what I had with the first girl. Very fun to be with and smart girl too, so I finished the night with a repeat with her as well. If I remember correctly she had only worked in a club in Barcelona before, and was fairly new at Paradise. Just a few months since she started there. Age 23. I'd give her a 9.
When it comes to the club I must say that it has a better layout than any of the other FKK clubs I've been to. The bar might feel a bit misplaced for some, but as a place to relax and enjoy the stay at, I would give Paradise the highest score. The food was also excellent with a large selection of fruits available all day, and warm food (good chicken curry the day I was there) both before and after the grilling at the terrace. The TV rooms are also a plus, and if not taken for the night, everyone can hang out at the VIP room and watch F1 or football at the big TV there as well, in addition to the TV downstairs.
Anyone know the current rates at FKKs Paradise and Sakura?
Paradise is a real FKK or a sauna club (the girls are fully naked all the day of the week)?
And are there debutants (18 to 24 years old)?
I would be there in August and I hope that it's a club where the most girl go in holiday.
Paradise is real FKK (maybe there is a dessousday) and you have all kinds of girls (last time I was there, I was with a 19 year old that had only a couple of weeks in Germany). Prices are like Hessen (50 for everything and anal 100), with entry 89.
Hessen Bub
06-16-14, 17:33
Did they increase the entry? Was 79€ as far as I know. There is a dessous day on Wednesday. Girly are not as naked as at World, the club allows a piece of clothing here an there.
HB.
Maybe I misremembered: in any case, kind of expensive.
Hessen Bub
06-16-14, 19:44
Maybe I misremembered: in any case, kind of expensive.Yes, but Cappuccino and Latte Macchiato are only 2€. LOL.
HB.
Did they increase the entry? Was 79 as far as I know. There is a dessous day on Wednesday. Girly are not as naked as at World, the club allows a piece of clothing here an there.
HB.It is still 79 euro.
The second girl I sessioned was from Moldavia in Romania. If I remember correctly her name was Aisha, but I won't swear on that since I forgot to write it down. Blonde slim girl at 160 cm. Very sexy body with natural almost perfect tits who a guy I met at Paradise asked me if really were natural since they looked so good. We also had a great chemistry, even slightly better than what I had with the first girl. Very fun to be with and smart girl too, so I finished the night with a repeat with her as well. If I remember correctly she had only worked in a club in Barcelona before, and was fairly new at Paradise. Just a few months since she started there. Age 23. I'd give her a 9.
Aisha's name is actually Aja. I had to get her to spell it for me as I couldn't understand what she was saying. Quite amazing girl. I'd also give her a 9. She tends to have Sundays off and starts about 6 pm. More info in my club report!
After visiting Oase on 9th and 10th June and Sharks on 11th June, I went to Paradise for first time on Thursday 12th June. I wasn't really expecting much after having a great time with girls I know I will have a good time with at the bigger Frankfurt clubs, but I was really surprised by Paradise. Yes it is a slightly smaller club, but it is really nicely presented, looks very opulent. Certainly one of the nicer clubs I've been to.
I thought the lineup was outstanding. I like slim girls and there were maybe 50 girls there and plenty of slim, pretty girls. The jacuzzi was a little small but nice. The bar is the smoking area and separate from the lounge area, which as a non-smoker I appreciate as it means the whole club doesn't stink of cigarette smoke like Sharks, and the bar area at Worlds. The rooms are nice, with air-conditioning, though just a little darker than I like. I don't see the point of being with a really pretty girl in a very dark room. But rooms were just light enough for me. The outdoor terrace area is quite small, I had a quick look and a few very white naked guys lying around like beached whales. Wasn't my thing.
One thing I really liked is there are towels everywhere. Anywhere you might need a towel, next to showers, sauna, jacuzzi there's lot of towels. Was very convenient and means you don't have to carry one around with you.
But its the sessions with the girls you meet that make the club and on that note the club was even better. I had 3 outstanding sessions with 3 beautiful slim girls and repeated with the same 3, 2 days later on Saturday night, being just as good or better the second time around. Its always hard going to a new club and finding girls who are good to session with. Finding 3 out of 3, first time, I either hit the jackpot or the girls generally offer a high level of service in this club.
Only issues really I guess is not many guys there and of the girls I sessioned with, 2 out of 3 were talking about moving to different clubs so the top lineup could disappear very quickly if they aren't making enough there. But most of the girls in all the clubs have the same complaint at the moment, particularly now the world cup is on.
First up I sessioned with Nichol, slim brunette, maybe 165 cms, 25, nice natural be cup breasts. Romanian of course. Very sweet, happy, smiling and friendly. Very keen to please, great DFK and enjoys anal.
Second up Aja. Usually I'm good at guessing ages, from talking to her I'd have guessed maybe 22-23, from her body I'd have said 18, really quite flawless. Turns out she's actually 24. About 160 cms, 43 kgs, blonde with a body playboy centrefolds would pay a lot of money for. Be or see cup breasts that you'd think have been sculptured by a top surgeon. But they're all natural, just very, very firm. Her face is cute rather than beautiful, but fun party girl and lots of fun in and out of the room. Kissing is good but doesn't involve tongue which was the only drawback with her. But her manner, looks and very very tight pussy more than makes up for that. Its worth going to the club just to meet this girl. I went back again 2 nights later to see her again, was even better the second time, though I had to wait a little while for her, I would guess she'd be in high demand. Said she was Moldavian I think.
Third up, CJ, said she'd been at the club about a week having come from the Globe Switzerland. But seemed she's worked at most clubs. Tall 172 cms, slim, brunette, beautiful face, silicon large be or see breasts, but well done and looked good on her. Excellent everything. Said she was 21, I'd have guessed a couple of years older. Also said she was Czech, I don't speak Czech but I've spent a lot of time with Czech escorts and she didn't know any of the places in Czech Republic I mentioned. Anyway I don't care I like all East European girls, my guess is she's also Romanian but I don't know for sure and I don't care. Skilled and talented girl, great DFK, all good. She speaks good English with an American accent which was unusual.
I was also approached by a few other girls over the 2 nights that I would have also liked to have sessioned with but one has only so much energy! Definitely worth a visit to this club if you're in the area.
PussyLiccker
06-17-14, 12:18
Thank you for the update. How is the line-up in terms of varieties? Would you say there are lots of girls of various origins and looks, more so than Hessen or NRW? Are there lots of pretty Germans, Russians, Persians, and etc. ?(basically other than Romanians) What do you estimate the Romanian percentage to be?
Many thanks,
PussL
Thank you for the update. How is the line-up in terms of varieties? Would you say there are lots of girls of various origins and looks, more so than Hessen or NRW? Are there lots of pretty Germans, Russians, Persians, and etc. ?(basically other than Romanians) What do you estimate the Romanian percentage to be?
Many thanks,
PussLI think there'd be enough variety to suit most tastes. Some but not many silicon, slim, medium, blondes brunettes. I'd guess like most of the clubs mainly Romanian. I did meet one girl who said she was a Afghanistan terrorist, could have been from her looks but then said she was Bulgarian. Nice to see a sense of humour, and if I hadn't been waiting for a particular girl I would have sessioned with her. I like Romanian girls so I don't care where they're from.
Aisha's name is actually Aja. I had to get her to spell it for me as I couldn't understand what she was saying. Quite amazing girl. I'd also give her a 9. She tends to have Sundays off and starts about 6 pm. More info in my club report!Yes I think you're right. Its the same girl judging by your description 'cute' more than 'beautiful' and no kissing with tongue policy.
In my view she is also someone worth visiting the club for single handedly. And I can count the number of FKK girls I've met worth that description on one hand.
Yes I think you're right. Its the same girl judging by your description 'cute' more than 'beautiful' and no kissing with tongue policy.
In my view she is also someone worth visiting the club for singlehandedly. And I can count the number of FKK girls I've met worth that description on one hand.I couldn't agree more. Well worth visiting the club just to see her. I'll certainly be dong that again.
I would like to know if at Paradise I can find debutant girls 18+ .
This club is a FKK or a sauna club (the girls are fully naked all the days or only some in topless)?
Hessen Bub
06-22-14, 08:21
Paradise is real FKK (maybe there is a dessousday) and you have all kinds of girls (last time I was there, I was with a 19 year old that had only a couple of weeks in Germany). Prices are like Hessen (50 for everything and anal 100), with entry 89.
I would like to know if at Paradise I can find debutant girls 18+ .
This club is a FKK or a sauna club (the girls are fully naked all the days or only some in topless)?See FD's answer.
HB.
I am planning to visit the club on Thursday. I wonder how current lineup looks like.
Was it affected by opening of second Paradise branded club in Saarbrücken?
CheekyDancer
07-12-14, 08:48
Popped in to Paradise on the first day of my tour. All the usual stuff with Paradise. Great layout, good food and plenty of it. I arrived at about 3 pm tired after a 10 hour drive so I had a beer, a bite to eat and a 2 hour snooze.
The line up wasn't great with some of the better girls such as Paris and Aja not being present. Seems that the club has dropped its face control down a level as there were a good number of 5/10 and a couple of 3/10's in there. Mostly Romanians and some of them with big mouths. I had to fend off a couple of rather aggressive ugly types that were really trying to push for your business.
I sessioned with a Romanian girl who's stage name I can't remember. I know her real name but won't post it for obvious reasons. She has Jet black hair, slim with a set of well done bolt on's. I have been with this girl a couple of times before and the session was good as usual with me finishing off in her mouth. Looks 9/10, BBJ 8/10, Body 9/10, Performance 9/10. She is definitely a stand out.
Now I have noticed the Girl Aja has come up a couple of times in here in previous posts. This girl is well worth a session with. She is definitely cute with a perfect 10/10 in the body department. The most perfect set of boobs I have ever seen and real. She is huge amounts of fun and really does give that GFE feeling both inside and outside the room. Don't miss out on this girl if you go to Paradise.
One other notable was a dark haired German girl very slim with small breasts and quite tall. Seems very forward and chatty. Unfortunately she doesn't speak English. I didn't find out much about her and she was whisked away before I had chance to talk to her. She looks a bit like Megan Fox. Must make a point of taking her to a room on the way back home.
Sorry about the vagueness of my post with no names but I was tired after a long drive. Paradise is well worth a visit if you are in the area. Plenty of room to relax and enjoy a good session or ten.
Another good thing about this club is there are a number of hotels well within walking distance. Holiday inn 100 meters, Hotel Ibis 400 meters, Pension Zum Heurigen/Airport Hotel 33 Echterdingen 700 meters.
Mostly Romanians and some of them with big mouths. Probably from giving too much head.
Nobody was at the new FKK paradise in Saarbrucken?
Please give report!
Thanks.
Hessen Bub
08-05-14, 07:39
Reports on German boards say the lineup is crap, less than 20 girls, no pretty girls, service seems to vary. Not worth the money, most guys reporting from Paradise SB stated that the will not repeat but return to Neunkirchen.
HB.
Citizen Kane
08-05-14, 17:41
Reports on German boards say the lineup is crap, less than 20 girls, no pretty girls, service seems to vary. Not worth the money, most guys reporting from Paradise SB stated that the will not repeat but return to Neunkirchen.
HB.I hope they don't try to artificially boost the line up by transferring girls from Stuttgart, like World did with Leipzig.
Hessen Bub
08-05-14, 18:05
Some girls from Palace where down in SB for the opening. But they hastily returned to Frankfurt as I heard. They are doing an awful lot of things wrong down there, like canceling special price promotions after a few days, not making sure the girls provide consistent service and pricing, showing girls on their website that are not in the club.
I'd have thought they knew how to open and run a club after Palace and Paradise in Stuttgart and Graz.
HB.
I was there twice in July-August, once on a Saturday between 1 pm and 3 pm, a second time on a Sunday between 6 pm and 10:30 pm. Cover charge on the expensive side (79 euros). Good food but no service between 4:30 and 6:30. Otherwise two good points are: 1) a safe within the locker 2) airconditioned rooms. The girls that attended on my first visit were all different from the ones who were there on my 2nd visit two weeks later. So there might be some shifting of girls between clubs. A 20 y.o. blonde Moldavian I'd had on my first visit was not on attendance, alas. On the whole the line-up was not on a par with the facilities. Maybe they're opening new clubs and spreading their girls thin. I regretted not having checked Sakura on my 2nd passage through the area.
I would like to know if at Paradise I can find debutant girls 18+ .
This is Baden Württemberg, so prostitutes can work as soon as they're 18. Most will be in the 20-30 range though.
Believe it used to be here:
http://the-paradise.de/#!girls.
Is it down temporarily?
Citizen Kane
08-11-14, 21:03
Believe it used to be here:
http://the-paradise.de/#!girls.
Is it down temporarily?I knew it! They've sent all of them to Saarbrucken.
Hessen Bub
08-11-14, 21:27
Can't be, SB is reported to have 8-10 girls only. LOL.
HB.
Banana Boi
08-11-14, 22:31
Wow that's really sad.
Citizen Kane
08-11-14, 22:59
Has the french feminist sex ban kicked in yet?
If it hasn't, I'm sure once it does there will be a big increase in male clientele which will in turn lead to a big increase in the number of girls at Saarbrucken. Supply and demand. It all comes back to Adam Smith. Kind of.
I first visited the club in June and as I definatelly am a non Romanian choosing guest I did a room with Lena, German, pretty with fake boobs and a big booty. She offered anal right away and so I did fuck her in her tight butt for almost the entire hour in several positions. She tried to make me cum 2 times during the session by taking my condom off and going to end with oral. As she was not able to take it down very deep I switched back to anal both times. Did not try her pussy, even when she asked for. She claimed to like assfucking when we talked at the bar and she got it. Finished in her mouth at the end, she spit it in the garbage can.
Will not repeat as she asks even more money as on her price list after the session. Maybe because I have ruined her ass for a little while. Not professional at all.
Sebastiane
08-25-14, 22:13
I made my first trip to FKK Paradise today. I went in the evening around 7 and just got back. Getting there by public transport was a breeze (see this thread) and I was struck by the similarities of the club to Palace in Frankfurt. This is not surprising given that the owners are the same! But this club was much smaller and newer. The decor - like at Palace -- was sort of Oriental / Moroccan. I liked it a lot. The food area and showers and lockers were definitely better (though I am comparing it to Palace about 4 years ago) and the food was really outstanding. The best I've had in an FKK.
Unfortunately today wasn't a good day to go in terms of women. 1) it was dress day and all the girls were in evening wear. This wasn't the main issue -- some of them looked great in dresses but (2) the place was kind of dead.
I counted probably around 15 girls when I left at 10-ish and a few guys. I realised it was a work day and probably not the best time to sample Paradise.
Didn't see any 9's or 10's and perhaps a couple of 8's. I still had a good session. I've found my approach never fails at any club. Be polite, firm, funny. I turned down one girl who said she doesn't kiss when I asked her and another one who said she wouldn't let me rim her and a girl who claimed to be Afghani due to her attitude although she was quite hot as far as body was concerned when I saw her in the sauna. I finally picked this girl who I'd spotted whilst I was eating. Adi from Bulgaria. Brunette. Arabic tattooed on her hip and another one on her calf. Was very sexy and one of the 8's in terms of looks. Body 8/ Face 7 or 8/ Performance 9. She was one of those sexy girls who really cuddle up to you and are attractive as well as good talkers. I liked her immediately. So after negotiations (yes to DFK, muschi and arse licking) I booked her for an hour. She took me up the stairs past the jacuzzi to the rooms. The rooms at Paradise are amazingAnyway we had an excellent session. She kisses wickedly but not so frequently unless asked and sucking her tongue is awesome. Great blow job skills too esp. Enhanced by her tongue piercing. She had me hard immediately with lots of body contact and silk like skin. Smallish natural tits. She is petite but wears v high heels! The session was very passionate and I fucked her for most of the hour till we were both sweating and tired, with some 69 and intermittent BJs and LFK and DFK. We did different positions too. I wasn't able to come though after 50 minutes so I wanted myself off as she squatted over me and did NS. That finally made me cum although I should have let her get me off in her mouth. Next time!
Had a lot of fun chat too during the fucking. Now I'm aching all over in a nice way.
Would def repeat. Adi. Bulgarian. 20's. 150 euros.
Shall try to go to Paradise on weekend so I can get better idea of the line-up.
Sebastiane
09-10-14, 21:26
I went again to Paradise last Thursday around 5 pm and stayed till just after 10 pm. The place was quiet at 5 but by 7 had picked up. Still I didn't think there were more than 30 girls and as many guys at peak.
As in Colo, girls here do not approach you unless you hint or smile etc. And then they are all over you in a friendly way trying to get you to go to a room.
After having some salad I first went with a friendly Hungaro-Romanian lady, in her mid-20's, called Erica. She was friendly and ticked my boxes and played with me whilst we were negotiating. I hadn't fucked for over a week so we went to the room for half an hour and I paid her 50 euros. She gave excellent service though kissing was only LFK but otherwise was great! Would definitely repeat. I came after about 10-15 minutes though of fucking after BBBJ. We cuddled and chatted for the remainder and I paid her 50. Face / Body / Performance is 7/7/8. Repeat? Yes.
Then I waited to see if the number of women would increase and once the food for dinner was laid out (the food is really fantastic!) they all appeared to eat. Some real stunners. One blonde girl really caught my eye and she sat near me to eat as I smiled at her. Petite, blonde hair, with a mole on her right cheek, very pretty face. Her name was Saraye and she was, I think she said, Bulgarian, but I can't quite remember. Anyway she was beautiful. She said she'd wait for me after I'd eaten. I had seen her earlier at the smoking bar when I'd first walked in but she was with some guy drinking champagne with him and I saw her return to him after dinner.
I waited for an hour or so but she didn't come and finally sent a friend to say she was still with this guy because he'd booked her for the evening and she was sorry. I said no worries and mentally made a note to see her next time.
I then went with a girl I'd spoken to on my first visit, a Spanish girl, called Tonia. We went in the room for an hour and I paid her 150 euros including an extra 50 for coming in her mouth. She is tall and lithe with a great body, very smooth silky skin, dark hair and wears glasses which make her look professorial. Sharpish features. Beautiful lips and eyes too. Smallish but lovely natural tits and legs that go on for ever and a pert and toned ass. As soon as we spoke and she cuddled up to me and let me put my hand between her buttcheeks and feel the warmth emanating from her ass I knew she'd be awesome in the room and she was. We did everything in many positions with lots of laughter and joking too.
I'm quite sure she came and I was exhausted by the end of the hour with so many positions that my legs were like rubber! I finally came in her mouth. Great girl. 8/9/9 Repeat? Definitely!
Afterwards I had some cake and coffee and then went into the jacuzzi which was fantastic and then showered and left, drained from all that fucking especially with Tonia. At work the next day people said you look tired!
I like Paradise so much I haven't yet even visited Sakura. I still need to see it on a Fri or Sat night though for all the supermodel like babes to come out to play.
Total damage: 79 entry plus 50 for Erica plus 150 for Tonia = 279 euros.
P.S. There is an ATM in Paradise which accepts international credit and debit cards!
Sebastiane
09-28-14, 03:36
I visited Paradise today and this report is being written just after I got back! I didn't know it was the local equivalent of Oktoberfest. I got there around 9 pm and the guard stopped me along with a large group of Hispanics as he said we had to wait a bit as there were too many people inside. He also said there were over a 100 women and it was really crowded. About 15 minutes later we we're let in. I paid the 79 euros and went in. It was jam packed with guys obviously here for the Oktoberfest. There were a lot of girls but also many of them must have been in the rooms because I didn't count anywhere close to a 100. I think a lot of the most pretty ones were always booked. I saw a few familiar faces. My initial hunch not to go in was right as there were too many guys sitting around and the choice of available girls was actually less than on a normal day.
I ate a quick meal of grilled chicken and salad and rice (delicious) and then spotted a very pretty girl with very blonde hair and a great figure. I was worried someone else would take her too so quickly went up to her and said I was interested in a session. She said yes but that she doesn't kiss. My first instinct was to say no thanks. I then chatted some more and said I'd go for an hour and she said okay she'd kiss but for extra 30 euros. I don't know why but I agreed since all the hots were taken. She was hot though. So she said I will kiss but only LFK not DFK. I agreed. So in the room she was very good with an amazing BJ and hand job combo technique. A good session with the prettiest girl I saw there this evening. I ended by cumming whilst fucking her in mish with her legs on-my shoulders on the hour mark. Her name was Paula and she was from Moldovia. Face 9 Body 9 performance 8 (minus 2 for not DFK) . Repeat? Yes but only for optifick. Cost 130 e.
Next up I spotted the Spanish hot Tonia whom I had a great session with last time (see report) but for some reason she ignored me all evening and would walk away from me with her friend giggling if she saw me approaching in her direction. Maybe I was just too much hard work last time? Or maybe she didn't want to go with a non-Caucasian when so many others were available? I don't know but it was annoying as I'd wanted to repeat with her.
I then had some coffee and in the dining area spotted a slightly buxom pale girl with a great smile and striking blue eyes. So I spoke to her after Tonia walked away from me again. I began to speak and she was very friendly so much so that I went either her. She wouldn't kiss for 50 either so I agreed to go for an hour if she would. Olivia from Poland.
I understood her to mean yes she would and in the room she kissed a few times and only light with the lips. In the room she was more business like than outside. A decent session. I didn't cum. She wanted 150 euro. Why? For the kissing! I argued a bit but couldn't be bothered and paid her the money. 8/7/7. Probably won't repeat.
My final session was a repeat of a girl from last time: Erica of Romania. Good choice. See last time report for details. Cost 50 and would repeat. 50 euro. Worth it!
I then went to the jacuzzi and sauna and soaked my tired body. Left by cab shortly after. I won't be coming during a messe / fair again as it's too busy and not as relaxed.
Total cost: 79 + 130 + 150 + 50 + 25 cab (with tip) is 435 eur.
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