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Parkinsons
09-10-13, 18:12
"Molly" is just a purified version of ecstasy, and ecstasy has been used recreationally for at least 40 years. The drugs are similar to amphetamines, making people more alert, so unlikely to be used to drug and rob mongers. Ditto cocaine.
Exactly what drug has been used by prostitutes in Thailand to drug and rob mongers?Perhaps this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToQ8PWYnu04
Scopolomine. Reportedly used by robbers in Colombia, most often by prostitutes to rob unsuspecting mongers. However, the video only says the drug will make you docile and obedient like a puppet on a string. If they asked you for money you'll gladly empty your pocket, withdraw your ATM balance, or even sign over the title of your BMW. Did not mention making you go bezerk and run naked?
Scopolomine. Reportedly used by robbers in Colombia, most often by prostitutes to rob unsuspecting mongers. However, the video only says the drug will make you docile and obedient like a puppet on a string. If they asked you for money you'll gladly empty your pocket, withdraw your ATM balance, or even sign over the title of your BMW. Did not mention making you go berserk and run naked?This must have been what Obama's Secret Service detail was given in Colombia to make them forget their responsibilities to flag and country so that they ended up naked in bed with hookers?
I'm headed to Juan Dolio for a couple of days. Thought I'd search for some backup in case Plan A comes apart. Well one of my dominican cupid contacts from Boca Chica decides to inform me on whatsapp, that she is anxious to see me on her computer. I tell her no problem, my Skype name is blah blah blah. She says, her computer is damaged right now, and she has to get it fixed. She goes on to tell me that it will cost 3000 pesos to get it fixed. About now, I'm laughing and shaking my head on my end, and thinking. These women are relentless with their schemes to get money out of dudes. I imagine it doesn't matter what the age disparity is, girls / women will scam anybody. But my gut tells me many of these chicas automatically think guys much older than them are more likely to fall for that attempt, simply because a lot of older guys want a younger woman, and are willing to put up a little money to get to a woman. She's 29 by the way. Looks haitian too. I'll bet any number of guys who made contact with a 29 yr old dark skinned chica from boca chica, already know who I'm talking about.
So I tell her, just go to the internet centro. She already had an answer. It's too far, and I have my young daughter at the house. I say ok I understand, and tell her we'll just have to wait until I can visit. She said, ok mi amor. Now I know some guys probably would have blasted her right then and there, or said something like. I aint stupid.
But I like the idea of letting them think whatever they choose to think. As long as no money comes out of my pocket. Meanwhile, she killed my desire of meeting her anyway. Damn she couldn't even get me on the hook good, before she hit me with that? I was going to take my time to vet the chica, but she beat me to it with that crap about needing to see me, and having a damaged computer. I just love the subtle way they ask for shit without asking. Oh yeah, in our previous whatsapp convo she mentioned to me she was interested in a serious relationship.
What really makes me chuckle is many of these online chicas say the exact same thing about wanting a relationship, but if you really pay attention, how do they go about getting to know a guy? Many of them don't do or ask much about a guy. They just offer common banter. They expect the foreigner to take the initiative while the women pretend to be interested. But the reality is, he's the prey. I think that practice is learned in the chicas how to guide."Hooking a foreign monger 101" Or from older experienced women mentoring the younger ones. I will say this. If I was a newbie, and hadn't encountered this very thing at least a dozen times already, I probably would have believed her or wanted to help her, even if I didn't send her any money. I wish I had an accounting of how many dudes this chica actually scored money off of with the same story or something different?
Lastly, this situation reminds me of the exchange I had with Mr G earlier, of how many of these chicas will think a dude is soft or weak if he doesn't call them on their Bullshit. I guess if I proceeded to deal with her or try to get with her. I'd go that route. But since I'm not going to meet her or waste time talking, operation phase out should be sufficient in these instances.
I got a question. Of those that called a chica out, that they suspected of trying to run a scam or scheme. What was the response from those chicas, the end result? In most cases, I would venture to guess, the chica just stopped all communication and disappeared. Like my last Dom cupid chica from Sosua who asked straight up for me to send her money for food and tuition. I declined, but she never even gave me a response.
Mr Enternational
09-11-13, 10:47
What really makes me chuckle is many of these online chicas say the exact same thing about wanting a relationship, but if you really pay attention, how do they go about getting to know a guy? Many of them don't do or ask much about a guy. They just offer common banter. They expect the foreigner to take the initiative while the women pretend to be interested. But the reality is, he's the prey.I don't think it is anything about being prey. I just think that is how Dominicanas are. The ones I have met in DR as well as the States have been the same. My main girl always tells me everyday about how she misses me and wants me to be with her. And this is an educated woman. One day I had enough. I told her enough of that talk every damn day. Try having a conversation. About work, about the government, about what her friend did. Any damn thing besides that same old crap. And I will admit that 99% of the Dominicanas have been that same way.
I got a question. Of those that called a chica out, that they suspected of trying to run a scam or scheme. What was the response from those chicas, the end result? In most cases, I would venture to guess, the chica just stopped all communication and disappeared. Like my last Dom cupid chica from Sosua who asked straight up for me to send her money for food and tuition. I declined, but she never even gave me a response.I don't get it. I must be on a different Dominican Cupid, Brazil Cupid, Latin American Cupid from most of the guys on ISG. I have been on the sites since 2004 I think and I just don't have chicks even asking for money, never mind trying to scheme or scam. I have said this before. I can think of 2 DC girls who ever said anything about money to me. One I fucked and she never asked for money, but right after I fucked her it was her birthday and she wanted Pumas. I never bought them. Then she started asking me to buy other material items for her. I cut her off. Another girl I had not even met and she was asking me for tuition money. I asked the name of the school and dean as I have read guys on ISG mention before. She tried to pull the it is easier for her to take it to the school trick. Eventually she called me cheap and our communication fell off.
It is not usual for me to go out of my way to meet a girl. If I am in Boca Chica, Santo Domingo, or Sosua, then I will have a new chick go to those places to see me on her own dime or in her own car, no matter where she lives. After that, I won't mind going out of my way because I know she is real and not playing games. This same formula has worked for me all over Latin America. The first chick I met in Colombia was a lawyer and took the bus 14 hours to Bogota. I have had chicks in Brazil buy their flights to Rio or Sao Paulo. I remember even once meeting a chick from Brazil on Cupid and I went to Rio and we spent some time together. Later she told me she used to be a hooker. She never asked me for a dime. Probably a couple of months later I was down in Rio and saw her in front of Help Disco. I said uhh huuunnn I thought your weren't working anymore. She said she was sorry for lying, but she didn't want me to look down upon her. She tried to get me to take her that night but I didn't. What are you guys doing to get these chicks to start wanting money from you because my experience is totally different.
Thats why I don't fuck with internet chicas, they can run their hustle from long distance with a limited investment. These girls think that if they ask ten horny gringos for money a week that 2 gringos will play. Plus they can double back the next week and two more who said"No" the first week will have gotten soft. Its a numbers game. Once you "Play ball" you are always trying to justify that initial investment and its hard to turn back because you have left a deposit. At this point she knows you are generous and somewhat infatuated. She can either play hardball or reel you in easy. This is when her acting talent comes into play.
To answer you question; its hard to call out an Internet chica because she really doesn't know you. You are just a numbers game with a face. So she can go to other options because you don't want to play her game. But trust me, She will double back on a slow day to run it again. Now if the girl has met you and seen how you operate and spent time with you for mutual benefit, the hardball stance will have more effect because she knows she is part of your numbers game and doesn't want to jeopardize her spot.
Once you pay the pre-trip deposit, the games are now beginning. She will ask you to bring her a gift. She will say mom is sick. She has cancer etc. Its a full court press and she will bring granny out to post up in the middle. The girl will be raining three-pointers on you ass and you haven't even arrived yet. On arrival she has already gone over the play book. She will meet you but she is not fucking because she isn't that type of girl (wink). You have to pay for her taxi. Any game you run she is already ahead of you. You say"lets go to my room to talk", but she says she forgot her cedula. She says"I'm hungry", so you buy food and drinks. When you get fed up and say how much for sex? , she has already figured out if you are a long term paymaster or a savy guy, so she plays it accordingly. If you are a long term paymaster you will eventually be sending a pm to Gogo asking for advice with the question"Do you think this girl is playing me". If you are a savy vet you wouldn't have gotten yourself on this merry-go-round in the first place LOL.
How the hell do I know if I was even communicating with a chica, the same person in the dom cupid photos? I could very well be dealing with an individual (s) posing as that chica? I never actually talked to the person on the phone, or saw them in real time, like with Skype. All we did was use Whatsapp. So who knows who was on the other end?
I don't think it is anything about being prey. I just think that is how Dominicanas are. The ones I have met in DR as well as the States have been the same. My main girl always tells me everyday about how she misses me and wants me to be with her. And this is an educated woman. One day I had enough. I told her enough of that talk every damn day. Try having a conversation. About work, about the government, about what her friend did. Any damn thing besides that same old crap. And I will admit that 99% of the Dominicanas have been that same way.
I don't get it. I must be on a different Dominican Cupid, Brazil Cupid, Latin American Cupid from most of the guys on ISG. I have been on the sites since 2004 I think and I just don't have chicks even asking for money, never mind trying to scheme or scam. I have said this before. I can think of 2 DC girls who ever said anything about money to me. One I fucked and she never asked for money, but right after I fucked her it was her birthday and she wanted Pumas. I never bought them. Then she started asking me to buy other material items for her. I cut her off. Another girl I had not even met and she was asking me for tuition money. I asked the name of the school and dean as I have read guys on ISG mention before. She tried to pull the it is easier for her to take it to the school trick. Eventually she called me cheap and our communication fell off.
It is not usual for me to go out of my way to meet a girl. If I am in Boca Chica, Santo Domingo, or Sosua, then I will have a new chick go to those places to see me on her own dime or in her own car, no matter where she lives. After that, I won't mind going out of my way because I know she is real and not playing games. This same formula has worked for me all over Latin America. The first chick I met in Colombia was a lawyer and took the bus 14 hours to Bogota. I have had chicks in Brazil buy their flights to Rio or Sao Paulo. I remember even once meeting a chick from Brazil on Cupid and I went to Rio and we spent some time together. Later she told me she used to be a hooker. She never asked me for a dime. Probably a couple of months later I was down in Rio and saw her in front of Help Disco. I said uhh huuunnn I thought your weren't working anymore. She said she was sorry for lying, but she didn't want me to look down upon her. She tried to get me to take her that night but I didn't. What are you guys doing to get these chicks to start wanting money from you because my experience is totally different.For one E, I think many chicas look for older guys just to get money. And I think a lot of the chicas that are much younger than me think because I'm older I would be more likely to open my wallet to a request or a hint of needing something. I think guys in their 30's and even their 40's are hit for requests a lot less than guys in their 50's 60's and 70's, by women 20 or 30 yrs younger than them. The chicas may even see greater relationship potential in guys closer to their age, than a guy 20 or 30 yrs older than them. So asking for money is less likely. The older guys on the other hand are likely to be perceived as candidates for getting money,gifts etc, without the guy getting any juice or them meeting the chica.
I've only used Dom cupid, and only mongered in the DR, so I have limited experience on foreign dating sites. Of the few I encountered on dom cupid, I can count on one hand the ones that didn't try to ask for something right off the bat. Another consideration, most of these chicas initiate interest towards me, not the other way around. And I usually pick from those I find attractive. All the homely looking chicas I avoid. I do get interests from women closer to my age, but many of them I am not attracted to them. Too much weight is usually the turn off.
My plan A lives in San Pedro. Were already established. I didn't meet her on any website. She's younger considerably younger than me, but I can deal with any request that comes my way. When I got on cupid, I thought Boca chica isn't that far, if for any reason my Plan A takes a detour, I would explore any of the other dom cupid contacts in that general area. Plus I have my ex regular that lives in SD, and one FB contact I've been meaning to connect with. All of which I should be able to get them to come to where I'm at. However even that has been a challenge because most chicas claim they have no money to travel and need you to send money. I will say this........many if not most chicas I encountered on cupid are unemployed. The few I met that worked were a pleasure to be with, and no requests for money. In fact they usually offered to do things for me.
I can think of 2 DC girls who ever said anything about money to me. One I fucked and she never asked for money, but right after I fucked her it was her birthday and she wanted Pumas. I never bought them. Then she started asking me to buy other material items for her. I cut her off. Another girl I had not even met and she was asking me for tuition money. I asked the name of the school and dean as I have read guys on ISG mention before. She tried to pull the it is easier for her to take it to the school trick. Eventually she called me cheap and our communication fell off.Well E, it's not like it hasnt happened to you at all, just not that frequent. There may be other variables that may make the difference in your experience from other guys. You probably speak more spanish, than many guys that get on dom cupid. So the chicas may relate differently to you than someone struggling using translators. I gave age differential as another factor. You say you have the women come to you. Many women I bump into are unemployed, or claim to be flat broke. So perhaps you are more selective or prone to choose women that work, or those actually looking for a boyfriend / relationship from these dating sites.......and they have the means to travel to you? The women really seeking a relationship are actually a problem for me, because I dont really want to get wifed up ( anymore ). Casual connections are likely to lead to attracting more chicas looking for quick scores from guys online.
At this point she knows you are generous and somewhat infatuated. She can either play hardball or reel you in easy. This is when her acting talent comes into play.Mr G. Which chica are you referring to you believe thinks I'm generous and somewhat infatuated? Are you referring to the Boca Chica chica I haven't met, or some other Dom Cupid chica I mentioned? And why are your posts delayed?
Once you pay the pre-trip deposit, the games are now beginning. She will ask you to bring her a gift. She will say mom is sick. She has cancer etc. Its a full court press and she will bring granny out to post up in the middle.This has happened to me with only 2 Dom Cupid chicas. One I met back in 2011 and my POP chica who I have readjusted my contact more towards p4p instead of a pretend relationship. Since then, I haven't let any dom cupid chicas get that far. But what I will say. What you described, I got that from most of the chicas I met in person within the last 2 years, mainly in Sosua. I had to evolve from a newbie to where I'm at today. It's just that I still get a kick out of reporting these incidents from chicas. And you are exactly right. Many of these chicas will come back to try another day once they have their foot in the door. I just stick to paying only for the juice I use. Come to think of it. This practice or mentality is no different than all of the other hustlers you see in Sosua. What do they do even if you keep refusing them? See you another day, and ask you again and again. And I have seen guys break down, and say fuck it. Let me see what you got to sell. So I'm sure chicas live by that same practice. Never take no as a final answer. How many of those shoeshine kids eventually got something out of somebody who initially refused them? It happens enough to reinforce the need to keep trying until they score. Or the motoconcho guys constantly sweating you for business just because you moved a muscle in their direction, and they saw it. Like you said, it's a numbers game. And it's also about being consistently persistent.
Mr G. Which chica are you referring to you believe thinks I'm generous and somewhat infatuated? Are you referring to the Boca Chica chica I haven't met, or some other Dom Cupid chica I mentioned? And why are your posts delayed?Just talking in general about my past experience and some I heard. I was just talking in general. I think you are smart enough to figure things out with a chica.
I'm going to Sosua this weekend for the first time. A few years ago I was headed there and was diverted to Boca Chica because of technical difficulties by American Airlines. While there, I met a beautiful Hatian woman who took me and my friend in for almost 4 days. She had a beautiful home and hooked my friend up with a different girl everyday. We did buy food for her pantry, but she never asked me for money. I noticed that her water pump was broken (hence bucket and pail in her shower) and asked how much to fix it. She told me $200. 00. While preparing to leave, I slipped 200 in her dresser drawer and left another 100 hidden on top of the dresser.
Later, I arived in La Romana and prepared to unpack my suitcase. To my suprise, She had slipped the 200 back into my luggage. When I returned home a few days later, I called her and asked her why. She said she fell in love with me and didn't want my money. I then asked her about the other 100 and she said she gave it to her friend that was less fortunate. She did own a small beauty shop and store. I stayed in contact with her for a while, but let it die. She asked if I would like to come and live with her, but after seeing her dog, rooster and cat all tied with leashes in her back yard. I got the message loud and clear! LOL.
Like I said, I'll be in Sousa this weekend. Mabey I'll See you there. Mucho Cervesas
The Managua legend does Sosua! Could be interesting! Lmso! Have fun playa!
QUOTE=Ready Ru; 1470905]I'm going to Sosua this weekend for the first time. A few years ago I was headed there and was diverted to Boca Chica because of technical difficulties by American Airlines. While there, I met a beautiful Hatian woman who took me and my friend in for almost 4 days. She had a beautiful home and hooked my friend up with a different girl everyday. We did buy food for her pantry, but she never asked me for money. I noticed that her water pump was broken (hence bucket and pail in her shower) and asked how much to fix it. She told me $200. 00. While preparing to leave, I slipped 200 in her dresser drawer and left another 100 hidden on top of the dresser.
Later, I arived in La Romana and prepared to unpack my suitcase. To my suprise, She had slipped the 200 back into my luggage. When I returned home a few days later, I called her and asked her why. She said she fell in love with me and didn't want my money. I then asked her about the other 100 and she said she gave it to her friend that was less fortunate. She did own a small beauty shop and store. I stayed in contact with her for a while, but let it die. She asked if I would like to come and live with her, but after seeing her dog, rooster and cat all tied with leashes in her back yard. I got the message loud and clear! LOL.
Like I said, I'll be in Sousa this weekend. Mabey I'll See you there. Mucho Cervesas[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Brother P; 1470907]The Managua legend does Sosua! Could be interesting! Lmso! Have fun playa!
Yes, many broken hearts in Nicaragua also. What can I say, they love my broken spanish. Mabey I'll catch up with you sometime. I think after seeing your leg in those Tomjackin photos, it won't be a problem recognising you. LOL
SavePros321
09-11-13, 16:42
I keep in contact with a lot of chicas from Colombia on fb just to flirt and pass time with until I return. To date, not one has asked me for a dime or even a gift. If anything, they are asking when am I returning (yes, so that they can earn) , but you can also converse with them and not expect to be asked for anything.
Most chicas I meet on Dominican Cupid? If not on the first conversation (and it has happened) , by the second conversation (either on DC or via MSN) they are reeling of a laundry list off problems in their life:
-no comida
-no luz
-no trabajo
-no dinero
-they need to payback money they borrowed
-etc
If I got to the point were I would returning to the DR and decided to go the Cupid route, I would just wait until about a week before I was going. That way when she starts going on about how she needs money, I'll be like "I'm here! Come and get the money. It's in my hotel room". I'm sure you will be able to weed out a lot of chicas this way.
I'm going to Sosua this weekend for the first time. A few years ago I was headed there and was diverted to Boca Chica because of technical difficulties by American Airlines. While there, I met a beautiful Hatian woman who took me and my friend in for almost 4 days. She had a beautiful home and hooked my friend up with a different girl everyday. We did buy food for her pantry, but she never asked me for money. I noticed that her water pump was broken (hence bucket and pail in her shower) and asked how much to fix it. She told me $200. 00. While preparing to leave, I slipped 200 in her dresser drawer and left another 100 hidden on top of the dresser.
Later, I arived in La Romana and prepared to unpack my suitcase. To my suprise, She had slipped the 200 back into my luggage. When I returned home a few days later, I called her and asked her why. She said she fell in love with me and didn't want my money. I then asked her about the other 100 and she said she gave it to her friend that was less fortunate. She did own a small beauty shop and store. I stayed in contact with her for a while, but let it die. She asked if I would like to come and live with her, but after seeing her dog, rooster and cat all tied with leashes in her back yard. I got the message loud and clear! LOL.
Like I said, I'll be in Sousa this weekend. Mabey I'll See you there. Mucho CervesasTwo things you said stands out from everything else You said she had a beautiful home, owned a beauty shop and a store. From my experience most dominicanas I met may have a clean apt, but not necessarily a beautiful home. Usually not comfortable enough for me to stay there for several days. And they certainly didn't have a beauty shop or own a store. Considering those variables, no wonder your experience was different.
Now thats not to say poor women wouldn't do what she did. Its just less likely for it to go down like that especially having considerably less going on than the lady you described. Add to that her Haitian heritage may have played a role. I read enough reports from guys saying Haitian women are prone to be more giving and less materialistic then their dominican sisters. My last encounter with a haitian puta out of D Latins, I had a great 1 hour session. Which included a massage and BBBJ with CIM. She saw I wasnt going to leche with a condom on. So she took it off and finished me off orally. For only a ST, that was great service. 7 out of 10 times with dominicanas, I would have been left with a hard dick and a puzzled look on the chicas face. Where and how did you meet her?
I keep in contact with a lot of chicas from Colombia on fb just to flirt and pass time with until I return. To date, not one has asked me for a dime or even a gift. If anything, they are asking when am I returning (yes, so that they can earn) , but you can also converse with them and not expect to be asked for anything.
Most chicas I meet on Dominican Cupid? If not on the first conversation (and it has happened) , by the second conversation (either on DC or via MSN) they are reeling of a laundry list off problems in their life:
-no comida.
-no luz
-no trabajo.
-no dinero.
-they need to payback money they borrowed.
-etc
If I got to the point were I would returning to the DR and decided to go the Cupid route, I would just wait until about a week before I was going. That way when she starts going on about how she needs money, I'll be like "I'm here! Come and get the money. It's in my hotel room". I'm sure you will be able to weed out a lot of chicas this way.You caught me off guard with that one. LOL. But yeah, thats exactly what I do. I make it a point to make my contacts within a week or 2 before My trip. I don't push to call or Skype with them. I just ask for a number and tell them I will call them when I get there. Almost all give up their numbers. When I call all have been receptive. Now if I get crap like I need you to send me money for taxi, get my hair done, minutes for my phone. I phase her out and move on to the next. If I decide to check out a dating website again I may consider passing time with women from other countries for a change.
Two things you said stands out from everything else You said she had a beautiful home, owned a beauty shop and a store. From my experience most dominicanas I met may have a clean apt, but not necessarily a beautiful home. Usually not comfortable enough for me to stay there for several days. And they certainly didn't have a beauty shop or own a store. Considering those variables, no wonder your experience was different.
Now thats not to say poor women wouldn't do what she did. Its just less likely for it to go down like that especially having considerably less going on than the lady you described. Add to that her Haitian heritage may have played a role. I read enough reports from guys saying Haitian women are prone to be more giving and less materialistic then their dominican sisters. My last encounter with a haitian puta out of D Latins, I had a great 1 hour session. Which included a massage and BBBJ with CIM. She saw I wasnt going to leche with a condom on. So she took it off and finished me off orally. For only a ST, that was great service. 7 out of 10 times with dominicanas, I would have been left with a hard dick and a puzzled look on the chicas face. Where and how did you meet her?What I got out of it is what he said at the end. He said"She had a dig, chicken and cat tied up in the back". The poster was smart enough to understand but not ask questions. Haitians are great lovers but sometimes it things there if you know the signs. I know a fine Haitian girl that works Sosua that the Dominicanas say is a witch. She is drop dead gorgeous.
I dated a Haitian girl for six months here in Miami and a week after I started dating her a beautiful rooster appeared in my neighborhood. That rooster scared all of the stray cats and dogs away. When we broke up the rooster disappeared, go figure.
A Haitian dude on my job whispered to me" Do you know where I can get a live chicken?", I looked at him strange and said no.
Two things you said stands out from everything else You said she had a beautiful home, owned a beauty shop and a store. From my experience most dominicanas I met may have a clean apt, but not necessarily a beautiful home. Usually not comfortable enough for me to stay there for several days. And they certainly didn't have a beauty shop or own a store. Considering those variables, no wonder your experience was different.
Now thats not to say poor women wouldn't do what she did. Its just less likely for it to go down like that especially having considerably less going on than the lady you described. Add to that her Haitian heritage may have played a role. I read enough reports from guys saying Haitian women are prone to be more giving and less materialistic then their dominican sisters. My last encounter with a haitian puta out of D Latins, I had a great 1 hour session. Which included a massage and BBBJ with CIM. She saw I wasnt going to leche with a condom on. So she took it off and finished me off orally. For only a ST, that was great service. 7 out of 10 times with dominicanas, I would have been left with a hard dick and a puzzled look on the chicas face. Where and how did you meet her?I meet this lady in a pizza shop on a rainy night. She said she was visiting a friend that worked there. I have posted a photo of her under the Nicaragua form (too long of story) But I swear its true.
Look through my prior posts. Around page three. Title," don't do no $6 girls". She's the one in yellow. I had every one of the girls on that page. Ahhhh, lifes a *****, jajaja
Mr Enternational
09-12-13, 01:52
When I got on cupid, I thought Boca chica isn't that far, if for any reason my Plan A takes a detour, I would explore any of the other dom cupid contacts in that general area.Be careful. I don't think any of the chicas I have hit up whose profile says Boca Chica live anywhere near Boca Chica. What girls had told me before was that their city was not listed and Boca Chica was the default.
So I'm sure chicas live by that same practice. Never take no as a final answer. Like you said, it's a numbers game. And it's also about being consistently persistent.That is funny. Many American chicks have said that they let me fuck them for this same reason. I was persistant. I figure I'm not going anywhere. I can pester them and wait them out for as long as it takes.
I hooked up with a 33 year old cutey on Cupid tonite. I told her up front I wanted a lover for my next trip. She was very honest and up front. She said she would need help with food and expenses while she was with me. She has 3 children and a very hot body. 90% of cupid girls say they want a serious relationship. 90% of us guys want a fuck buddy. So who is BS ing who. I try to be upfront so they can be up front. When a 20 something girl wants to hang out with a 50 plus guy it is not for my good looks. For the guys who think girls asking for money is a scam. All the girls we deal with are looking for sugar daddies." SO WHat" Spend exactly what you want and not a penny more. We have a good going never for get it.
SavePros321
09-12-13, 03:25
For the guys who think girls asking for money is a scam. All the girls we deal with are looking for sugar daddies." SO WHat" Spend exactly what you want and not a penny more. We have a good going never for get it.I don't think anyone was arguing against that. We were stressing that the trick to this working is not to get tricked; meaning, if you are sending money ahead of your trip, then you absolutely run the risk of getting scammed. She already got your money, so if she decides not to follow through on meeting you once you arrive, then you end up looking like a sucker. She'll just apologize for not being able to meet up with you with whatever bullshit excuse she comes up with, and then resume asking you for money once you are back in front of your computer (at home).
Mr Enternational
09-12-13, 07:43
Look through my prior posts. Around page three. Title," don't do no $6 girls". She's the one in yellow. I had every one of the girls on that page. Ahhhh, lifes a *****, jajajaRR you say not to do any $6 girls, why is that? A buddy of mine keeps running down there for that exact thing. Also, where do you stay there? I have had a couple of girlfriends in Managua so I had always stayed at their houses except the times that we went to Montelimar. I have never done any mongering there.
Mr Enternational
09-12-13, 07:50
while thinking about managua i did a search to bring back old memories. damn 2008. seems farther back than that:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?363-managua&p=696548#post696548
i arrived in managua yesterday. i have been here a few other times visiting my ex-girlfriend but we would always go to the resorts, so i have limited experience in the city and no experience mongering.
well, when i checked in at the gate yesterday i saw a cutie pie and one of her relatives waiting to board the same flight. i went and sat next to her and started up a converstation. she said that she was from managua but she lives in new york. i told her that i could tell where she lived by what she was wearing. typical nyc back alley knockoffs. jeans, coach shoes and purse, prada glasses. i told her that i would be visiting her in nyc but not until next summer. i asked if she had a boyfriend and she said yes, so it would not be wise for me to go to nyc just to visit her. when we exited the plane in managua i have her my information and told her to contact me if she changed her mind.
my new non-pro internet blind date was waiting to pick me up at the airport. when i exited customs and walked up to greet her, her 4 year-old son somehow pulled her to the ground. now she is no small girl standing at about 5 feet 7 inches, but her son`s nickname is gordo. other people who were waiting for loved-ones came over to see if she was okay. i helped her up and we went to car. her knee is still swollen from what her little monster did.
i was riding shotgun and he was in the back seat. for some reason he hit me in my head. i reached back and knocked the shit out of him without saying a word. we arrived at the house where the maid was waiting to take control of the little monster. but he was pissed about something so he starts beating the shit out of the maid. i could not believe my eyes. i went and picked him up, took him in the room and threw him onto the bed. it took all i had not to give him an ass whoopin. i closed the door and he put on his crying act. his mother and the maid started to feel sorry for him and wanted to enter the room. i asked if they were crazy and told them to just let him cry. shit, i can`t tell who is the adult and who is the kid in this house. then the maid went into the kitchen and got a baby bottle of milk. i asked who it was for. my god ladies, the boy is 4 years old. why the fuck are you giving him a bottle? that must be the reason his teeth are rotting. because when the maid put him to sleep tonight she gave him a bottle of milk to sleep with. not only that but he still wears [CodeWord131] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131). what fucking idiots. anyway, the delivery person brought his food and the maid set it up. i could not believe they were actually going to let him eat. but she got him out of the bed and my new chica and i went into the bedroom.
we layed on the bed for about two seconds before getting hot and heavy. i stood up and sat her on the edge of the bed. before even taking my shirt off i undid my pants and directed her head with my hand. it wasn't the best but it was an okay effort. i went to ramble in my bag to get my condom on deck. i took off all of my clothes then got on the bed to help her take hers off. i directed her hand to her clit. she stroked it so fast until she was about to cum. whooaaa tonto. slow down. i had to stop her. we commenced to doing some serious fucking in this hotbox. the a / c does keep this room cooler than it would otherwise be, but still. we looked like we had just run a marathon when all was said and done. and just in time too. the maid had finished preparing a dish of chicken, beans, and rice and i was famished. after eating we got right back in the bed for round two then i fell off into a nap.
I never send anything upfront. I will send bus and car fare if she is meeting me in a different city. This creates trust on both sides. The girls have as much to risk as we do. They are meeting a guy they do not know. I use skype phone conversation to build trust and desire. talking on the phone a couple of weeks before your trip. It helps to break the ice when we meet. If she is comfortable with you the sex is way better. Girls who constantly ask for cash I will toy with if they are hot. These girls have no game so I am not sure who gives them cash. Never send a nickle to girls no matter what their issues are. It requires time and effort to build repore but it is worth it for me. DR has a wide range of women. I just have more fun banging non pros. It takes more time but the rewards for me are worth it.
I don't think anyone was arguing against that. We were stressing that the trick to this working is not to get tricked; meaning, if you are sending money ahead of your trip, then you absolutely run the risk of getting scammed. She already got your money, so if she decides not to follow through on meeting you once you arrive, then you end up looking like a sucker. She'll just apologize for not being able to meet up with you with whatever bullshit excuse she comes up with, and then resume asking you for money once you are back in front of your computer (at home).
RR you say not to do any $6 girls, why is that? A buddy of mine keeps running down there for that exact thing. Also, where do you stay there? I have had a couple of girlfriends in Managua so I had always stayed at their houses except the times that we went to Montelimar. I have never done any mongering there.That quote was part of a longer conversation. My point with him was that I perfer paying $50 a day per say, for a girlfriend experience with a hot chick, and have her as much as I want, Than a rushed cheap bang in the back of some sleasy bar with an average or below piece. To each his own. I have stayed at GFs homes in the past and sometimes with my extended family and friends there. My preference now is Hotel yolanda, because I realy like the people there and it is a good bargain. I can have any or as many girls as I want with no problems from my host.
I went to an Orange store with my chica today. She inquired about data for my phone. She was given a code to dial and from there just follow the selections for data, then choose a plan that suits your needs. All I had to do is add credit to my phone so when I made my choice there was enough credit to pay for the plan. I think I paid 300 pesos for a 7 day 700mb plan.
Last August an orange rep said I had to buy a plan for I think 1600 pesos for month. And he required my passport. This time no passport. Just a code. Very simple. Is this a new service or I just wasnt offered it back in August? Was I being treated like a local?
Often you can find girls who are thrilled to spend time in a nice hotel eating in places they dreamed of and getting gifts and some cash to. 100 dollars is their pay for 3 weeks of 6 days a week work. Some time they will ask for a gift in lew of cash. Cell phones are very popular. You can buy open phones on craigs list for good prices. The girls see the phone and cum in their pant and let you lick them. They are happy and grateful and if you treat them right they will want you to come back. There is nothing like making love to a women who is relaxed and wants to please and be pleased. You will not get that from SWs. For me it is hard to put a price on. It can be cheaper to keeper.
That quote was part of a longer conversation. My point with him was that I perfer paying $50 a day per say, for a girlfriend experience with a hot chick, and have her as much as I want, Than a rushed cheap bang in the back of some sleasy bar with an average or below piece. To each his own. I have stayed at GFs homes in the past and sometimes with my extended family and friends there. My preference now is Hotel yolanda, because I realy like the people there and it is a good bargain. I can have any or as many girls as I want with no problems from my host.
Often you can find girls who are thrilled to spend time in a nice hotel eating in places they dreamed of and getting gifts and some cash to. 100 dollars is their pay for 3 weeks of 6 days a week work. Some time they will ask for a gift in lew of cash. Cell phones are very popular. You can buy open phones on craigs list for good prices. The girls see the phone and cum in their pant and let you lick them. They are happy and grateful and if you treat them right they will want you to come back. There is nothing like making love to a women who is relaxed and wants to please and be pleased. You will not get that from SWs. For me it is hard to put a price on. It can be cheaper to keeper.Once, In Caterina I bought a $14. 00 dress for my little princess without her asking me. I thought she was going to cry. She wore it proudly the next day and loved my like a newlywed. I hooked up with her 2 years later, and she couldn't wait to pull it out of her closet and show me how well she had taken care of it. She loves me till this very day.
Sorry guys, I know this is a Dom Rep thread but I believe the same goes anywhere you are. I'll let you know after this weekend. LOL
Many of the girls have soft hearts and are very appreciative of any kindness. I had a cute puta in PC who I left a note where she worked to say good bye. When I came back 4 months later she had my note. She had no Idea I would ever come back. You make some nice relationships if you are a kind to them. You have to work at it but that is he fun of it.
QUOTE=Ready Ru; 1471457]Once, In Caterina I bought a $14. 00 dress for my little princess without her asking me. I thought she was going to cry. She wore it proudly the next day and loved my like a newlywed. I hooked up with her 2 years later, and she couldn't wait to pull it out of her closet and show me how well she had taken care of it. She loves me till this very day.
Sorry guys, I know this is a Dom Rep thread but I believe the same goes anywhere you are. I'll let you know after this weekend. LOL[/QUOTE]
Mr E I can defintely relate to being around some womans problem children (s). Not in the DR yet but in the states.
FOD bikini contest and after hours. Enjoy fellas.
It is shocking to see what they let these bad kids get away with. Sometimes you think you have lost your mind cause they act like this madness is normal. i learned just let it go. I am not ere to raise their bad ass kids
Mr E I can defintely relate to being around some womans problem children (s). Not in the DR yet but in the states.
They hired a new 31 year old cutie on my job last year. We started spending some time together and I could sense she was getting interested, so I gave her my talk. I said' Look we are cool and all but I don't need a girlfriend or wife or any bullshit on this job, what I need is a friend with benefits who can keep her mouth shut and also respect my privacy. I live quietly and like to travel". She said " I'm not that kind of girl and I need someone serious".
Well over time other dudes played her game only to hit and run. They gave her nice gifts and told her she was the special one, but they were gone after banging her. She was gossip material on the job. Now that she has been played out in front of everyone she wants to double back to me. Now she wants whatever I want.
Being that she played herself out, all I've been using her for is getting head not fucking. She doesn't understand why I don't want some pussy. Its not that I don't want pussy, but I don't give second chances after you have already demonstrated that you are just a game playing trick. My payback for her turning down my initial invitation is to never fuck her. If I fuck her she wins, if I don't I win. Am I being an arrogant fuck?
Did a quick getaway to Juan Dolio. My hookup lives in San Pedro. I arrived at Sdq around 6 pm. Called my chica, said she was in a guagua, then she had to take a taxi. For her, the whole trip with moto, guagua and taxi came to 370 pesos. Always mis communication with chicas or dominicans generally. She got there, was looking sexy with a dress and 5 inch heels on.
Got my rental from Alamo for 2 days. Booked online. Paid $85 put it on a CC. They required I pay $10 a day for basic liability. That was included in the $85. I declined the CDW coverage, because my CC covered me.
Now were on our way to my hotel in Juan Dolio. Residence Meridiana. Booked it online. Cost $100 for 2 nights. I asked what time was checkout? She said 12, but not for me to worry about that. That was good too, because my return flight was 8pm. I checked out at 5pm.
Okay we get to the hotel. I asked her if she is hungry, yes she said. But as soon as we got in the hotel, the girl decided she wanted to get busy. Fuck food. I guess we were both pretty horny because we were talking about getting back together all week prior. All systems were on point. Pussy nice and wet, not too tight, just right. Chica comes good and hard with little effort. A quick shower and we head out for something to eat.
It was quiet as hell in this area of Juan Dolio which is close to the beach. At the restaurant, just as I suspected. I would see some cute locals walking around, a couple of cuties dining and a cute chica working at the restaurant. It felt like I could have got with any one of them if I wasnt with company. Good thing I was only wifed up for 2 nights. Because I would have needed to leave her in the hotel, catch somebody willing and find a place to do the deed.
After dinner head back to the hotel, and went for round 2. No leche left after that. Morning comes and we head to San Pedro. She shows me her apt, her job, and we go to Mc Donalds. Then we go to their large walmart type store to get her some food. Girl had internet, had plenty of clothes, but no damn food in the house. Bought a shit load of food, dropped it off. Also established internet / data for my phone from Orange.
Eventually made it back to the hotel. This time I was recharged. I did my best to have a session she would never forget. Thanks to Mambo for me and her generous comsumption of Baileys that was accomplished. Afterwards she was acting like she had trouble walking. She got extremely quiet. Went out to get food, but this time to go. We shared it. Afterwards we both passed out.
We were both still satisfied from last night, so no morning nookie. She had to go back to San Pedro for something involving a girlfriend. I went into a local salon nearby for a mani / pedi. $350 pesos for both. She was finished, came into the salon and had her hair pressed. 150 pesos. Total 500 pesos. Keep that in mind fellas. Some things chica get done in these salons don't cost much.
We head back to the hotel area, drive around a little bit. Get something to eat, go back and take a nap. Wake up for a quickie, and its off to sleep for the rest of the night. Next day relax, go out to eat, come back and nap, and get one last session in before heading to SDQ for my 8pm flight. Plan A a success, no need for any Dom Cupid backups.
One thing I realized about this plan. And with a reg of mine I was with in Aug that lives in SD. 2 days with one chica is enough. Especially when communication and things in common aside from fucking is limited. Next trip is Oct in Sosua. I can call each of my regulars and arrange them when needed, keeping my options open for any spontaneous opps.
Thanks for the San Pedro and Juan Dolio report. Thats the way it always is; when you have a girl you always see nice available girls. In the DR because of power outages, chicas don't usually store lots of food for fear that it will spoil. My limit is 2 days also. After you have banged them 8 times in 2 days its adios.
It seems like the chicas on the south coast (SD, JD, San Pedro) all have some where to be eventually. Whereas the north coast girls are more giving with their time long term. You basically have to kick them out. I'm sorry, I'm thinking about pre 2010.
I'm there in October also but I'll be damned if I'm sitting in a hot ass D'Latin. Luckily the jazz festival will keep me occupied.
They hired a new 31 year old cutie on my job last year. We started spending some time together and I could sense she was getting interested, so I gave her my talk. I said' Look we are cool and all but I don't need a girlfriend or wife or any bullshit on this job, what I need is a friend with benefits who can keep her mouth shut and also respect my privacy. I live quietly and like to travel". She said " I'm not that kind of girl and I need someone serious".
Well over time other dudes played her game only to hit and run. They gave her nice gifts and told her she was the special one, but they were gone after banging her. She was gossip material on the job. Now that she has been played out in front of everyone she wants to double back to me. Now she wants whatever I want.
Being that she played herself out, all I've been using her for is getting head not fucking. She doesn't understand why I don't want some pussy. Its not that I don't want pussy, but I don't give second chances after you have already demonstrated that you are just a game playing trick. My payback for her turning down my initial invitation is to never fuck her. If I fuck her she wins, if I don't I win. Am I being an arrogant fuck?Well G here's my analysis. In the beginning you told her upfront what you were about. She told you that wasnt what she wanted. Then she sought what she claimed she wanted from other guys, but those guys played her game to get what they wanted. But in reality, they misrepresented what she was looking for. Her being gossip material is just a by product of doing shit too close to home. That can happen to anybody. So far I don't see anything wrong with her end yet. Since she realizes she aint going to get what she was hoping for with anybody, it seems she realizes NOW what is out there for her. Dudes who don't really want commitment or a relationship.
She probably thought there were guys that wanted what she wanted so she looked for it. And so she comes to you now, maybe because in comparison to what she dealt with, she can appreciate now that you were honest and upfront of what you wanted. In the beginning that didn't sound good. Imagine if it was you being told by a chick she only wants to use you for FWB, but you only want a serious relationship. You might move on too, right? ( of course it is a little different for us, women generally have more to be concerned about ). Do you think any woman should hold that against you because you chose to move on? The bottom line, it seems the chick didn't diss you or blow a chance. She just sought what she was looking for in other men. Can you blame her?
Her position now is, if you can't beat them, you might as well join them. Please go get that pussy bro. It's just another hole to fill. Just make sure she doesn't try to impose a relationship on you, trying to trick you like the way she was tricked by those other dudes. If that happens, you haven't lost anything. You are ahead in this game. Thats how I see it. You can always get off that ride whenever you choose. Now, is being the talk of the job an issue for you? Because if that is important. Maybe it may be best to leave it alone. Including the head work. Just my 2 cents. If gossip is not important.....bang that pussy.
On a side note. If you want to invite me to Fl, I'd be more than happy to give a closer analysis of that situation. BTW, do you have any cabanas near your job? :) <devilish smile>
Lous place has been sold and will be demolished soon. If you met Lou, consider yourself lucky. He was a wonderful host, we will miss you dude. Lou has the distinction of getting the better of Gogo. I haven't thrown up from drinking since 1982 when I was in the Navy. In 2009 I was bar hopping in Sosua, going from 4 Roses to Classicos at 2am, when Lou saw me walking by and called me in. For every drink I purchased, Lou would give me free shots. I left there fucked up and went home. After I laid down I had that feeling that I hadn't had since 1982 and went to the bathroom. I spent the next ten minutes over the comode.
Thanks Lou, love ya bro.
I thought it was because 2 days was all they could afford.
Thanks for the San Pedro and Juan Dolio report. Thats the way it always is; when you have a girl you always see nice available girls. In the DR because of power outages, chicas don't usually store lots of food for fear that it will spoil. My limit is 2 days also. After you have banged them 8 times in 2 days its adios.
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T seems like the chicas on the south coast (SD, JD, San Pedro) all have some where to be eventually. Whereas the north coast girls are more giving with their time long term. You basically have to kick them out. I'm sorry, I'm thinking about pre 2010.
I'm there in October also but I'll be damned if I'm sitting in a hot ass D'Latin. Luckily the jazz festival will keep me occupied.
Thanks for the San Pedro and Juan Dolio report. Thats the way it always is; when you have a girl you always see nice available girls. In the DR because of power outages, chicas don't usually store lots of food for fear that it will spoil. My limit is 2 days also. After you have banged them 8 times in 2 days its adios.
It seems like the chicas on the south coast (SD, JD, San Pedro) all have some where to be eventually. Whereas the north coast girls are more giving with their time long term. You basically have to kick them out. I'm sorry, I'm thinking about pre 2010.
I'm there in October also but I'll be damned if I'm sitting in a hot ass D'Latin. Luckily the jazz festival will keep me occupied.G, You are correct power outages is a big problem. In her case, much of the food we bought was non perishable food and household goods. Rice, pasta, canned food, boxed juice and milk, toiletries etc. She seemed to know exactly what to get which did not require refrigeration. The perishable items will likely be consumed, shared (with an older friend of hers and a neighbor) or sold to someone close to her. No kids more than lack of money, plays more of a role into her not having food in the house. She only has herself to feed. So she can get meals whenever and wherever she chooses.
After taking a 2 day trip to the DR and going to work the next day, that jazz festival is doable. Even though my Oct trip is early Oct.
Lous place has been sold and will be demolished soon. If you met Lou, consider yourself lucky. He was a wonderful host, we will miss you dude. Lou has the distinction of getting the better of Gogo. I haven't thrown up from drinking since 1982 when I was in the Navy. In 2009 I was bar hopping in Sosua, going from 4 Roses to Classicos at 2am, when Lou saw me walking by and called me in. For every drink I purchased, Lou would give me free shots. I left there fucked up and went home. After I laid down I had that feeling that I hadn't had since 1982 and went to the bathroom. I spent the next ten minutes over the comode.
Thanks Lou, love ya bro.I know what you mean. The only time I got falling down drunk in the DR was after a night of drinking Lou's shots at his beach bar in 2004. Great guy, always remembered your name and would introduce you to everyone at the bar.
Lous place has been sold and will be demolished soon.I remember when Lou's place was on the beach. The vibe was great back then. I would stop at his spot on PC occasionally to watch the UFC.
Charles Pooter
09-16-13, 06:07
. and would introduce you to everyone at the bar.. And that is a good thing?
. And that is a good thing?Sure it is, Lou wanted his place to be like family hanging out. Some of my best times were there. Maybe the British don't know about such hospitality. If you knew Lou, you were family.
Charles Pooter
09-16-13, 19:34
Sure it is, Lou wanted his place to be like family hanging out. Some of my best times were there. . If you knew Lou, you were family.I have known Lou for eight years. We have a mutual "best friend". I have never heard anyone say a bad word about him. I have spent very little money there but he always welcomes me like a valued customer. I guess that makes me part of his "family".
I am happy for Lou to know my name, and I would trust him with a lot more than that, but I cannot say the same for some random drunk or lowlife who happens to be in the bar at the same time. When you live here permanently you learn to be very picky about letting strangers know anything at all about you and that goes triple for people you meet in Sosua bars.
As for people who hang together in bars as a substitute for "family", I thought that had been thoroughly satirized by showing all the sad losers in "Cheers". In real life they are not so funny, just pathetic, and occasionally troublesome.
I have known Lou for eight years. We have a mutual "best friend". I have never heard anyone say a bad word about him. I have spent very little money there but he always welcomes me like a valued customer. I guess that makes me part of his "family".
I am happy for Lou to know my name, and I would trust him with a lot more than that, but I cannot say the same for some random drunk or lowlife who happens to be in the bar at the same time. When you live here permanently you learn to be very picky about letting strangers know anything at all about you and that goes triple for people you meet in Sosua bars.
As for people who hang together in bars as a substitute for "family", I thought that had been thoroughly satirized by showing all the sad losers in "Cheers". In real life they are not so funny, just pathetic, and occasionally troublesome.As usual, you are over-analyzing again. Lou wants his place to be comfortable, like it was with your family. Nobody said anything about singing kum-ba-ya together while holding hands.
And if I had a business and you spend very little money there, I wouldn't be as nice with you as Lou is. I would probably tell people don't bring your cheap ass back anymore. But Lou never held anyones faults against them, thats why he was special.
Beagle0030
09-17-13, 01:14
Lous place has been sold and will be demolished soon. If you met Lou, consider yourself lucky. He was a wonderful host, we will miss you dude. Lou has the distinction of getting the better of Gogo. I haven't thrown up from drinking since 1982 when I was in the Navy. In 2009 I was bar hopping in Sosua, going from 4 Roses to Classicos at 2am, when Lou saw me walking by and called me in. For every drink I purchased, Lou would give me free shots. I left there fucked up and went home. After I laid down I had that feeling that I hadn't had since 1982 and went to the bathroom. I spent the next ten minutes over the comode.
Thanks Lou, love ya bro.Wow! This really hurts. Lou's was my favorite place in Sosua. I am not big on repeating with girls, but I was his most loyal customer when I was in town. He was a really sweet guy who ran the friendliest place. Is there any talk of him getting another place?
I really haven't bought into the good old days of Sosua are dead, but this is causing me to re-think that.
SavePros321
09-17-13, 02:41
He was a really sweet guy who ran the friendliest place.Dude, are you a chick?
I'm looking for marriage, a centrated and responsable old man to share my life with. I want to be his queen and he can be my king. Give him all the love and spoil him with everything he wants I like old mans since I am very young. I don't believe that a long time relationship defines marriage I believe if we agree to share our lifes together we shouldn't wait we should just make it happend.
DR is a different world. Thank God
This is the official website for the DR jazz festival. There is also info on all the artist. Very good website for those planning to attend.
http://drjazzfestival.com/
Mr Enternational
09-17-13, 17:12
I'm looking for marriage, a centrated and responsable old man to share my life with. I want to be his queen and he can be my king. Give him all the love and spoil him with everything he wants I like old mans since I am very young. I don't believe that a long time relationship defines marriage I believe if we agree to share our lifes together we shouldn't wait we should just make it happend.Papi, send money!
My guy in SD checked out the casas. Problems on Pasteur. Further information coming.
SavePros321
09-17-13, 19:51
Reported by Charles Pooter in the SD thread:
Girl House, Sky High, and 305 closed last night and arrests made. Any more info from our SD experts?
Please deliver the pussy and I will send some cash.
Papi, send money!
From my friend on the scene 305 was open last night. Girls house and Sky high aren't. Here is what happened;
Dominican prosecutors continue to close down brothels located in the Gazcue area of Santo Domingo. Yesterday, Monday 16 September, the National District prosecutor office announced that two nightclubs, The Girls House and Sky High, were closed for violation of the law against trafficking in migrants and people. The owners Ronny Colalzo, Eden Mena Guirola and Marlen Llerena were arrested and the prosecutors say they will be charged, as reported in Hoy.
Please deliver the pussy and I will send some cash.Why should that chica need to send pussy? It's obvious you believed that bullshit note from that Dom Cupid chica. Otherwise why would you claim that the DR is a different world? Somebody was bold enough to call that BS for what it was, and now you want to save face like you are in accord? Man please! You claim you send money for bus and taxi so they can come see you. You also claim sending bus and taxi money builds trust on both sides. So stop the BS, send that different world chica some money so she can come see you, and stop trying to front here on this board. Oh yeah, make sure you bring her a cellphone too since that supposedly makes these chicas come in their pants, and they will let you lick them. SMDH.
I have made an effort to ignore your stupidity. DR is different because hot young girls are not focused on fucking guys our age for love or money in the US. It is clear that you are such a dumb ass you not comprehend normal interactions. The [point was this young lady was focused on finding and fucking older guys which I proudly represent. Unlike you I do not expect 20 something girls to freely give me pussy. I am not surprised when they want something in return. I play the seduction game and enjoy it. I have read how so many girls have stood you up and disappointed you. I have rarely had those issues. The reason you had so many issues is you are a jerk in any culture and even girls in need of cash do not want to be around you. May be your mom was a crack ho and did not teach basic shit like decency. It is never to late learn. Under the right circumstance I will bring a cell phone and lick that pussy. As thing stand now you can not carry my jock because you are basicly retarded socially. Most guys on this forum are ok however you represent the ass holes.Kool out.
Why should that chica need to send pussy? It's obvious you believed that bullshit note from that Dom Cupid chica. Otherwise why would you claim that the DR is a different world? Somebody was bold enough to call that BS for what it was, and now you want to save face like you are in accord? Man please! You claim you send money for bus and taxi so they can come see you. You also claim sending bus and taxi money builds trust on both sides. So stop the BS, send that different world chica some money so she can come see you, and stop trying to front here on this board. Oh yeah, make sure you bring her a cellphone too since that supposedly makes these chicas come in their pants, and they will let you lick them. SMDH.
i have made an effort to ignore your stupidity. dr is different because hot young girls are not focused on fucking guys our age for love or money in the us. it is clear that you are such a dumb ass you not comprehend normal interactions. the [point was this young lady was focused on finding and fucking older guys which i proudly represent. unlike you i do not expect 20 something girls to freely give me pussy. i am not surprised when they want something in return. i play the seduction game and enjoy it. i have read how so many girls have stood you up and disappointed you. i have rarely had those issues. the reason you had so many issues is you are a jerk in any culture and even girls in need of cash do not want to be around you. may be your mom was a crack ho and did not teach basic shit like decency. it is never to late learn. under the right circumstance i will bring a cell phone and lick that pussy. as thing stand now you can not carry my jock because you are basicly retarded socially. most guys on this forum are ok however you represent the ass holes.kool out.1) dr is different because hot young girls are not focused on fucking guys our age for love or money in the us.
i'm glad you posted that for all to see. so if young hot girls in the us haven't been fucking old guys for love or money (especially for money) , then what have they been fucking older guys in the us for?
2) the [point was this young lady was focused on finding and fucking older guys which i proudly represent.
you must be high on that whack weed. every older monger here and damn near all over the planet is fucking younger women. so whats so fucking special or new about that all of a sudden? no my retarded friend. nobody is buying that deflective nonsense. thats not why you posted that. you posted it because you assumed the person who wrote it was being sincere about having a relationship with older guys. there was no mention of her finding and fucking older guys. the emphasis was on a relationship. in other words, the ***** was running a con, and as she hoped some old fool got snagged in that bullshit. thats you. then when a fellow member called it for what it really was, you come back with that bullshit reply. the reality is. you will send bus and / or taxi money to an untrustworthy piece of shit like that just because you are easily impressed over bullshit. you sure you only close to 60? because you sound like a 80yr old who spent 20 yrs behind bars, and was recently released from prison. get up to speed and open your eyes. this is 2013, not 1913.
thats all i'm dealing with. thats all i need to deal with.
Great news, Passions is now open fellas.
Great news, Passions is now open fellas.Even though I have never used Passions, I'm wondering what have they done or will do to get in compliance and still conduct a p4p business?
Even though I have never used Passions, I'm wondering what have they done or will do to get in compliance and still conduct a p4p business?Wilfred mentioned something about a night club. So I'm guessing a smaller D latins. P4P will be independents I guess.
SavePros321
09-27-13, 05:09
Even though I have never used Passions, I'm wondering what have they done or will do to get in compliance and still conduct a p4p business?Gogo will fill you in, but since he is on delay I will relay what he told me: The new set up will be a bar. Won't be like the old Passions.
Charles Pooter
09-27-13, 12:57
Lou's place has been sold and will be demolished soon.Did you mean "demolished" or "refurbished"? I was in there yesterday and the place seems much airier, lighter and more spacious. It has been repainted and refurnished as a small restaurant. They have a menu of mainly light meals at reasonable prices. Bachata was being played at a tolerable level so you could hold a conversation.
So long since I was in the old Shark Bar I could not place what changes had been made, but possibly some internal partitions have been removed?
It is called "Lynda's" and I was told it is owned by a Haitian couple. There was a middle-aged, well-dressed Haitian couple sitting at the bar, and as that is fairly unusual I assumed they were the owners but the Dominican barmaid said not.
100 pesos for a Cuba libre. There is a "happy hour" from 2pm to 5pm all week.
I have also been told it has been opened as a "hobby" or "vanity project" and doesn't need to make money. That is how Lou ran it until he got finally fed up with all the bullshit a gringo business owner has to put up with.
As an example of the latter I was at a gringo-owned restaurant on the Malecon in Pto Pta yesterday afternoon. A maimed beggar girl was throwing empty beer bottles across the road at a gaggle of street urchins who were taunting her. She did not come close to hitting any cars or bikes but the Malecon was soon a sea of broken glass. The owner had already called Politur but when they eventually arrived they just cruised past without stopping. Later a PN van did the same. The owner said that if he were Dominican they would have stopped and taken the girl away. His and the adjacent restaurants soon emptied of outside customers in case she crossed the road and started aiming our way. A few more tourists who won't be eating out on the Malecon again, but the police don't care.
I guess I meant "Refurbished". Was the cuisine Dominican or Haitian? I'm guessing they are probably hoping for walk-up clients that are looking for Lous place. That location is terrible but Lou made it work because of his personality.
As far as Peters place, I wish him luck. He has so much money invested in the place that he is stuck. Most people would get the hell out of the DR after what he just went through. The Germans have been entrenched in Sosua for a long time, but some say the Russians now have the power.
Great news, Passions is now open fellas.It's actually open or going to open soon?
What is the new "format"?
Gogo will fill you in, but since he is on delay I will relay what he told me: The new set up will be a bar. Won't be like the old Passions.Hopefully next week I will see for my self, and offer a report here. I will also be looking for an affordable but decent apartment for the whole month of Feb, and possibly later down the road for short term (3 to 6 months ). More and more, Las Canas is looking better and better as an option. It's just a little far from the action.
On a recent trip I was driving to Cabarete, and on the way, I saw this fairly big "Caesars Palace" looking, Roman style building going up. There was also a sign of some kind describing it as a "gentleman's club". Wasn't sure whether it was open and just closed, or still under construction. It looked like it was still being built.
Anyone know about this place? Just curious. It looked like an ambitious project. It was between Sosua and Cabarete.
Things are happening fast in Sosua. Across from the "Trade winds" entrance on the main road, a Super Pola is now being built. It is the same company that owns La Sierra. The land was purchased last year but nothing happened with the property. Speculation was that a La Sierra was coming. But my sources say it will be a "Super Pola". This is another major development for Sosua. It makes you wonder if Sosua has turned the curve to being not only family friendly but ex pat friendly. This kind of development could jump start real estate investment. We will see whats next folks.
It's actually open or going to open soon?
What is the new "format"?Here is your answer.
http://www.sosuanews.com/index.php?id=3471&article=1
On a recent trip I was driving to Cabarete, and on the way, I saw this fairly big "Caesars Palace" looking, Roman style building going up. There was also a sign of some kind describing it as a "gentleman's club". Wasn't sure whether it was open and just closed, or still under construction. It looked like it was still being built.
Anyone know about this place? Just curious. It looked like an ambitious project. It was between Sosua and Cabarete.Http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/36901890.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.panoramio.com/photo/36901890&h=680&w=1024&sz=3294&tbnid=9R5J6DIAb9fgIM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=136&zoom=1&usg=__6HUSIGiIten2mpDDdD9k2t0IQts=&docid=QmvFE--5yAGhwM&sa=X&ei=VW5HUsL4OZG84AOs-YBI&ved=0CD8Q9QEwAw
It's on the other side of Cabarete, not Sosua side.
I am sure this is it.
Http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/36901890.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.panoramio.com/photo/36901890&h=680&w=1024&sz=3294&tbnid=9R5J6DIAb9fgIM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=136&zoom=1&usg=__6HUSIGiIten2mpDDdD9k2t0IQts=&docid=QmvFE--5yAGhwM&sa=X&ei=VW5HUsL4OZG84AOs-YBI&ved=0CD8Q9QEwAw
It's on the other side of Cabarete, not Sosua side.
I am sure this is it.Nope, that isn't it. It didn't say "casino" like this one does. Also, I never drove beyond Cabarete.
I checked out my local strip club last night. I ran into a sexy petite spinner I have none for years who gives a world class lap dance. The girls in the club were as hot as DR girls and straight up nasty girls in a good way. What makes the difference is you re going have to pony up $200 for ST. If you could hit these girls for 40 bucks the Dr could not get my cash. The other difference the Dr girls in many cases seem more innocent and they fuck like machines. I have been so blown away by the DR that I ignored what was right in front of my eyes. Problem is I can not have what is there.
Manizales911
09-29-13, 16:37
I checked out my local strip club last night. I ran into a sexy petite spinner I have none for years who gives a world class lap dance. The girls in the club were as hot as DR girls and straight up nasty girls in a good way. What makes the difference is you re going have to pony up $200 for ST. If you could hit these girls for 40 bucks the Dr could not get my cash. The other difference the Dr girls in many cases seem more innocent and they fuck like machines. I have been so blown away by the DR that I ignored what was right in front of my eyes. Problem is I can not have what is there.Many years ago I used to spend thousands in USA strip clubs and all I got was blue balls. Then I discovered mongering outside of the USA and I haven't been in a strip club in the USA since then.
Manizales911
09-29-13, 16:51
Nope, that isn't it. It didn't say "casino" like this one does. Also, I never drove beyond Cabarete.Manny, Bucsemi is correct but I think what is confusing you is that he said it is on the other side of Cabarete which is true but it is still in Cabarete I believe. I will be staying in Cabarete with one of my main chicas in a few weeks and I will check it out and clarify. I went to the "Gentleman's club" above the casino when it first opened and reported here about it. It was owned by Russians and I was told by the Russian manager that the girls were not h00kers, only strippers. The girls were all 8+ and were all eastern European or Russian and the interior of the place was as nice as any top notch USA strip club, high class all the way and so were the prices. They closed within weeks I have been told.
El Lobo Solo
09-29-13, 16:55
Many years ago I used to spend thousands in USA strip clubs and all I got was blue balls. Then I discovered mongering outside of the USA and I haven't been in a strip club in the USA since then.I had the same experiences, except I also got STDs, ripped off numerous times, chased by pimps, stood up, and harassed by crazy drug addicts and worse! People are all the time telling me to be careful when I travel to these dangerous places like the DR. All I can say is my little town of 50, 000 has drive by shootings at least once a week. The only options for P4P are sorry old women with less than zero enthusiasm, or drug addicts with major bad-ass connections, or spoiled girls with the idea that they are doing you a favor for letting you near them for $200 plus per hour. And then they want references! What a joke.
Temper my semi-bitter attitude with the fact that very occasionally I find a decent professional near here, but they never last.
Counter that with over ten years of almost 100% satisfaction in countries all over the world. I am not rich enough to afford many trips, but darn it, I do save my money so I can enjoy the professionals outside the USA.
Manny, Bucsemi is correct but I think what is confusing you is that he said it is on the other side of Cabarete which is true but it is still in Cabarete I believe. I will be staying in Cabarete with one of my main chicas in a few weeks and I will check it out and clarify. I went to the "Gentleman's club" above the casino when it first opened and reported here about it. It was owned by Russians and I was told by the Russian manager that the girls were not h00kers, only strippers. The girls were all 8+ and were all eastern European or Russian and the interior of the place was as nice as any top notch USA strip club, high class all the way and so were the prices. They closed within weeks I have been told.So he is going to open a hands-off, stripping only club in a country where P4P is the norm? $20 for a lap dance when $40 will get you laid?
Its a good thing that Russians have oil. If they didn't, and relied on running actual businesses, they would be doomed. Damn. Even with a surefire product, the hottest women in the world, they still can't make it succeed. Morons.
Mr Enternational
09-30-13, 02:23
So he is going to open a hands-off, stripping only club in a country where P4P is the norm? $20 for a lap dance when $40 will get you laid?
Its a good thing that Russians have oil. If they didn't, and relied on running actual businesses, they would be doomed. Damn. Even with a surefire product, the hottest women in the world, they still can't make it succeed. Morons.They have the same thing in Thailand except they don't strip. They just wear bikinis. The clientele is generally Indians and Arabs; people who come from places where White women are not readily available. So for them it is a novelty. And who knows when or if they will get to touch a real live White woman again so they splurge / get clipped. None of the guys who frequent the DR are going to go for that bs, but I guess the owner found out quickly and the hard way.
The tourism minister along with the mayor of Sosua have announced that 400 million pesos will be made available for the renovation of Sosua beach.
Sosua News today 10/1/2013.
Four hundred million pesos for renovation Sosúa beach?
The Minister of Tourism, Francisco Javier Garcia announced that for the restructuring of the bay of the resort town Sosúa the government has made four hundred million pesos available. According to Mayor Ilana Neumann of Sosúa good agreements have been made with all current owners of the casetas (souvenir shops). When the renovation of the historic center of Puerto Plata is completed, they will start with the renovation of the beach of Sosúa. There will be constructed two shopping center where the current owners of the casetas can rent a shop at both entrances to the beach. With these changes, Sosúa should be more attractive to tourists who demand better service and more luxury.
With the cruise port in Maimóand and the renovation of the historic center of Puerto Plata, the north coast will be culturally more attractive, says the Minister of Tourism.
https://www.facebook.com/hotelcasacayena?hc_location=stream
The tourism minister along with the mayor of Sosua have announced that 400 million pesos will be made available for the renovation of Sosua beach.Good news for the people. Bad news for the ISG contingent.
Charles Pooter
10-02-13, 01:15
Good news for the people.Why? Money would be better spent on improving the worst education system in Latin America.
Bad news for the ISG contingent.Why? I don't think any of us own businesses on the beach?
Clubs, shops, bars and restaurants opening and closing, purges, initiatives, political changes. etc, don't affect me, my friends or my chicas in the slightest. There is a steady flow of new chicas doing what chicas have always done at the same prices (allowing for the fall in the peso) as for the past eight years I have known the North Coast.
What I would think seriously affects guys is the increase in air fares and reduction in number of flights. Again, that doesn't affect me as I live here and am not going anywhere, but it must stop a lot of ISG members coming to the DR, or coming so often.
But the rest is just gossip to fill in time between trips.
I booked a flight for February to SD 380 round trip. I started packing my bags.
Why? Money would be better spent on improving the worst education system in Latin America.
Why? I don't think any of us own businesses on the beach?
Clubs, shops, bars and restaurants opening and closing, purges, initiatives, political changes. Etc, don't affect me, my friends or my chicas in the slightest. There is a steady flow of new chicas doing what chicas have always done at the same prices (allowing for the fall in the peso) as for the past eight years I have known the North Coast.
What I would think seriously affects guys is the increase in air fares and reduction in number of flights. Again, that doesn't affect me as I live here and am not going anywhere, but it must stop a lot of ISG members coming to the DR, or coming so often.
But the rest is just gossip to fill in time between trips.Spoken like a true Renaissance man. Nice!
Sosua News today 10/1/2013.
Four hundred million pesos for renovation Sosúa beach?
The Minister of Tourism, Francisco Javier Garcia announced that for the restructuring of the bay of the resort town Sosúa the government has made four hundred million pesos available. According to Mayor Ilana Neumann of Sosúa good agreements have been made with all current owners of the casetas (souvenir shops). When the renovation of the historic center of Puerto Plata is completed, they will start with the renovation of the beach of Sosúa. There will be constructed two shopping center where the current owners of the casetas can rent a shop at both entrances to the beach. With these changes, Sosúa should be more attractive to tourists who demand better service and more luxury.
With the cruise port in Maimóand and the renovation of the historic center of Puerto Plata, the north coast will be culturally more attractive, says the Minister of Tourism.
https://www.facebook.com/hotelcasacayena?hc_location=streamAttje.
Having very recently spent the night in Boca Chica and having seen what a seedy, run down dump that place has become or continued to be, it seems to me that the recent initiatives to improve Sosua are admirable. At the present time Sosua beats beats Boca Chica hands down on everything-value-for-money hotels, restaurants, freelance girls-and improvements to the beach area will continue the process.
Attje.
Having very recently spent the night in Boca Chica and having seen what a seedy, run down dump that place has become or continued to be, it seems to me that the recent initiatives to improve Sosua are admirable. At the present time Sosua beats beats Boca Chica hands down on everything-value-for-money hotels, restaurants, freelance girls-and improvements to the beach area will continue the process.I will be in Boca Chica in a few weeks. When I was there in May it was very seedy. I will try garant hotel this time, anyone stayed there? Also club Batey and boat house was nice. But Boca is only good for one day.
The only thing holding Sosua down as we know it are D'latins and Rumba. I'm guessing they will be targeted soon. I have a feeling that a crackdown is coming on the girls. I think that eventually most mongers will be priced out of Sosua. For the guys that haven't cultuvated other spots, good luck looking through backpage for local girls in the States.
I will be in Boca Chica in a few weeks. When I was there in May it was very seedy. I will try garant hotel this time, anyone stayed there? Also club Batey and boat house was nice. But Boca is only good for one day.
The only thing holding Sosua down as we know it are D'latins and Rumba. I'm guessing they will be targeted soon. I have a feeling that a crackdown is coming on the girls. I think that eventually most mongers will be priced out of Sosua. For the guys that haven't cultuvated other spots, good luck looking through backpage for local girls in the States.Why do you think that punters will be priced out? I can understand if the police shut it down. But why priced out?
A traveler sees what he sees, a tourist sees what he is shown.
Why do you think that punters will be priced out? I can understand if the police shut it down. But why priced out?If Sosua beach is transformed into this boogie place, I won't be going. They might charge a entrance fee. I'm guessing that the rent will be so high that it will be advertised to foreigners as a chance to own a beach business in paradise. The Dominicans know that they won't be able to turn a profit with such high rent.
So we will have lobster meals priced at 30usd (now its 20usd). Drinks will be double what we pay now. Chairs and umbrellas will cost double. They arent investing 100million USD to have cheap dudes hanging out. Single girls will be harassed by the police. You will have fat cats lounging around smoking over-priced cigars, rubbing their bellies. The hotels will use this new beach to raise rates in the "New Sosua".
On a side note, I read an article last month where Raul Castro stated that he will step down in 2018. Then last week I saw an article where Cuba is allowing more freedom to athletes. Also they are expanding the business opportunities for Cubans in Cuba. It makes you wonder if the vacuum has already started in the Caribbean in response to Cubas opening up in the future to Americans.
Charles Pooter
10-03-13, 18:17
Why do you think that punters will be priced out? I can understand if the police shut it down. But why priced out?Yes, I thought that was odd, too. Maybe a typo for "pushed out" or "shut out"?
People on here are always moaning about how Sosua is not like it was in the old days. Well, if they shut down Passions, Classicos, Rumbas, D'Latino, or make them not viable economically, it will become more like the old days. Discourage the point and click weekend warriors who are easy meat for the putas and who thus drive prices up, reduce the quantity of mongers to those individuals who like to do their own thing and explore (the very people like Dominican Billy and a few others, mostly French, German and Canadian, who got the whole scene started around 15 years ago) and prices will drop and girls will be less "professional" (and I mean that in a good way).
There will be just as many girls having just as many babies at ridiculously early ages and needing money for dried milk and pampers, but hopefully fewer hardcore putas looking for money for drugs, iPhones, and the salon three times a week with all their squalid hangers-on, and that has got to be a good thing. Cheaper and sweeter chicas like (allegedly) the old days or like most haitianas even today (except those on the "Strip").
I look forward to Mr Gogo's predictions coming true, but I am not holding my breathe. A few political and economic changes and it could all go into reverse.
Let's look 15 minutes east of Sosua at Cabarette beach. Foreign and Dominican business owners. Take Osheahs on the beach. Burger, fries and drink are 500p. I can get a whole chicken off the grill in Sosua for less than 300p. I love Cabarette but I can't afford to hang out there and drink and eat regularly. The business owners don't allow p4p. It's only one massage place in Cabarette. Hangout on the beach and you can count on one hand the girls in p4p. When an event is on the beach, its a more affluent crowd. Now put the same model in Sosua and see how many mongerers will be spending money there. Mongers don't like expensive food and hotels. Mongers spend money when pussy is available. Sosua has deals that are beneficial to the monger, sex / hotels / food / safety. My chesp ass won't pay for entrance to a beach. My cheap ass won't pay 500p for a burger. And my cheap ass won't pay over 70usd to stay anywhere. Just saying.
Most of us do not know how much we like young pussy because we never get it. That is what makes Sosua the spot. There of 100s of young girls looking for our money. Win Win for everybody. Sosua has nothing going on during the week to support its infrastructure accept mongers and Putas.
Yes, I thought that was odd, too. Maybe a typo for "pushed out" or "shut out"?
People on here are always moaning about how Sosua is not like it was in the old days. Well, if they shut down Passions, Classicos, Rumbas, D'Latino, or make them not viable economically, it will become more like the old days. Discourage the point and click weekend warriors who are easy meat for the putas and who thus drive prices up, reduce the quantity of mongers to those individuals who like to do their own thing and explore (the very people like Dominican Billy and a few others, mostly French, German and Canadian, who got the whole scene started around 15 years ago) and prices will drop and girls will be less "professional" (and I mean that in a good way).
There will be just as many girls having just as many babies at ridiculously early ages and needing money for dried milk and pampers, but hopefully fewer hardcore putas looking for money for drugs, iPhones, and the salon three times a week with all their squalid hangers-on, and that has got to be a good thing. Cheaper and sweeter chicas like (allegedly) the old days or like most haitianas even today (except those on the "Strip").
I look forward to Mr Gogo's predictions coming true, but I am not holding my breathe. A few political and economic changes and it could all go into reverse.
I have this bootleg Samsung phone that keeps dropping wifi, so I have misprints. I will switch back to my note tomorrow. Also I meant 10 million usd for the beach not 100 million.
I will be in Boca Chica in a few weeks. When I was there in May it was very seedy. I will try garant hotel this time, anyone stayed there? Also club Batey and boat house was nice. But Boca is only good for one day.
The only thing holding Sosua down as we know it are D'latins and Rumba. I'm guessing they will be targeted soon. I have a feeling that a crackdown is coming on the girls. I think that eventually most mongers will be priced out of Sosua. For the guys that haven't cultuvated other spots, good luck looking through backpage for local girls in the States.I stayed at the Garant for 9 days in 2010. My first trip to the DR. Its a decent hotel, clean safe, has a resturant. I would stay again if I went back to Boca Chica. But I'm not going back to Boca Chica! LOL! Have fun!
SavePros321
10-11-13, 22:31
After this next upcoming trip to Medellin I think I will pivot back to the DR (no promises; still got Cali on my list). I've been getting very good feedback from Dominican Cupid, which tells me I need to exercise these options.
The problem I have is dealing with most of what some of you guys have reported: flakes (chicas acting like they can't meet with you, forgetting their cedula at home, meeting the parents, etc.). When you are on a short vacation,"ain't nobody got time for that".
I guess I have found a way to deal with this (having more patience). My last trip to Medellin in August I has so much sex that my body was aching by Sunday. I was to the point that I did not want to fuck anymore. I still ended up calling a chica over just to rub one out before I left the next day, but I almost didn't.
So this is what I am thinking. On my next trip to the DR I will spend a few days in Sosua banging chicas until it hurts; then spend the last few days in either SD, STI, or POP dealing with the quote/un-quote "non-pros". This way, if there are any disappointments with not getting sex, the effect won't be as magnified as it would if I had just touched down on the island and was desperately trying to get one of them to come over and have sex (on the first night).
What do you guys think?
Mr Enternational
10-11-13, 22:53
I think what are you going to do when the non-pros want to fuck your brains out, but you have spent all your energy in Sosua?
SavePros321
10-11-13, 23:06
I think what are you going to do when the non-pros want to fuck your brains out, but you have spent all your energy in Sosua?Good point, LOL.
After this next upcoming trip to Medellin I think I will pivot back to the DR (no promises; still got Cali on my list). I've been getting very good feedback from Dominican Cupid, which tells me I need to exercise these options.
The problem I have is dealing with most of what some of you guys have reported: flakes (chicas acting like they can't meet with you, forgetting their cedula at home, meeting the parents, etc.). When you are on a short vacation,"ain't nobody got time for that".
I guess I have found a way to deal with this (having more patience). My last trip to Medellin in August I has so much sex that my body was aching by Sunday. I was to the point that I did not want to fuck anymore. I still ended up calling a chica over just to rub one out before I left the next day, but I almost didn't.
So this is what I am thinking. On my next trip to the DR I will spend a few days in Sosua banging chicas until it hurts; then spend the last few days in either SD, STI, or POP dealing with the quote / un-quote "non-pros". This way, if there are any disappointments with not getting sex, the effect won't be as magnified as it would if I had just touched down on the island and was desperately trying to get one of them to come over and have sex (on the first night).
What do you guys think?I think I'd reverse it and go to Sosua at the end of your trip. Unless one of your non-pros convinces you to skip Sosua!
SavePros321
10-11-13, 23:32
I think I'd reverse it and go to Sosua at the end of your trip. Unless one of your non-pros convinces you to skip Sosua!I think that would somewhat be defeating the purpose; especially if you and your non-pro(s) hit it off really well. I could see myself being in Sosua like "why the hell did I leave that (non-pro) for this (hardened pros)?"
I like the idea of going the non-pro route last because after a few days my mindset is like "I came here (to the DR) do what planned to do (bang, bang, bang); anything more is just icing on the cake (or overkill)". I think at that point I'd be more open to doing stuff like walks on the Malecon, going to the Zoo or the movies, etc.
Wrx2005: Drop some more pros/non pros stories on us bro!
I think that would somewhat be defeating the purpose; especially if you and your non-pro (s) hit it off really well. I could see myself being in Sosua like "why the hell did I leave that (non-pro) for this (hardened pros)?"
I like the idea of going the non-pro route last because after a few days my mindset is like "I came here (to the DR) do what planned to do (bang, bang, bang) ; anything more is just icing on the cake (or overkill)". I think at that point I'd be more open to doing stuff like walks on the Malecon, going to the Zoo or the movies, etc.
Wrx2005: Drop some more pros / non pros stories on us bro!Well bros, I'm on day 13 of an 18 day trip. Starting on Oct 1. My trip is going as follows. I'll start in the middle. Starting 2 mornings ago. I met a pair of young chicas I've seen walking around all over town, and at the beach. But this particular morning while sitting at NG I took a number (no pun intended) from the one with the red streaks in her hair. I like to grab numbers from cute chicas that have the potential of being candidates. It's no guarantee I'll call them, but I like to take numbers in case I want to check any of them out.
My San Pedro chica has been here in Sosua since Oct 8. So as you can gather, my solo fun started earlier on Oct 1, before she got there. I would consider her a non pro with semi pro tendencies. However, since I don't know what the fuck she does in San Pedro (she lost her job, and has an apartment, she could be a full time pro in San Pedro, or elsewhere, and I just don't know it?)
Anyway, yesterday morning I'm having breakfast at Sinatras restaurant (formerly PJ's ). This is quite a change from my usual of going to NG for breakfast. But this is cool. There aint no dudes or chicas all over the place, like I would see at NG or Baileys. I cook my turkey bacon in my spot, and take it with me, since most restaurants don't have it on their menu. Terra Linda has turkey bacon, but damn that place is expensive. So is Baileys. Them damn taxes.
Ok, while having breakfast with my SP chica, the 2 chicas I bumped into near NG (the previous morning) walked by on their way to the playa. The one whose number I got kept turning around looking and smiling at me. My chica didn't notice it, and I didn't pay much attention to her. They kept walking. The thing I noticed, is that the chica I liked had a nice body.
After breakfast, my chica wanted to go to the salon. Dropped her off, and now I have maybe 2 hours to kill. My mind starts working. I am not much of a day time action kinda guy. But I was thinking about how scrumptious that red haired chica's ass looked in those tight shorts. I texted her 1st to ask where she was, and then followed it up with a phone call. Meanwhile I don't know how long it will take for my chica to finish up at the salon.
So I'm on limited time. It took a few minutes for her to respond. But damn! I know my spanish is basic. But damn this chica had me struggling to get across to her that I wanted to meet up with her. My plan was to take her to the cabana. With all of this awkward communication problems going on, I was ready to abort, and just check her out some other time.
And thats what I told her. I went to Rockys to chill for a while. Red haired girl eventually shows up. I had forgot that I mentioned Rockys to her on the phone. I told her we will have to try another time. She "claims" she is leaving tomorrow for santo domingo. Okay, if I can I'll look for you tonight. Or I'll see you when come back. I can tell this isn't what she wants to hear. She wants my business. Doesn't want to miss the $$$ in my pocket.
Later, after coming back from Cabarete, I told my SP chica that I'm stepping out to hang out with my friends. Called red haired girl, and eventually got her to meet me at NG. It's about 7:30pm Got her in the car, and started to get some things straight. Let her know what I like, find out what she doesn't do or like. I don't want my time wasted. Things went well, and her body language indicated I was going to have a good time with her. Checked her cedula. She's 23 but looks younger. In the cabana, she didn't disappoint.
Pulled into Dulce Secreto. Chose a standard, that has a shower. 590 pesos. The executive unit takes too much time to fill the Jacuzzi tub. Besides I wasnt intending to get romantic or spoon with this chica.
This is one of the rare times where I was the one sort of concerned about my time, instead of the chica having a dude on the clock. There was no rush on her part. She showered, then I. Got in the bed and she starting sucking me. Good feel so far. But I'm nasty. I want to eat her pussy. We get into 69, and I suck her pussy like I usually do. I had her moaning and eventually she came. Her body is very nice. Her tits stand up with nice nipples. Her ass was round, but very soft and feels great in my hands. She puts a condom on me, and rides me until I come. I had no interest in putting in work (changing positions etc ). I'm going to have to do that with my SP chica later anyhow. We finished and got cleaned up. Gave her the pesos, and dropped her off close to Four Roses bar.
Now I have a new juice source down the road. Got back to my spot, and my chica is just chilling watching TV and waiting for me. Whats cool about her, is that she comes very easily. She is getting used to my dick, and getting off quicker and more intensely than when we 1st started fucking in August. After watching TV, she was ready to fuck. Ironically enough, I was surprised that I was able to get it up and get her off. Thank goodness she came within 5 minutes. When it was my turn, I let her ride me until I came. Good thing thing she wasnt checking my leche volume. Because I didn't have much left. Last nights move was a nice change of pace. I could have done the cabana twice, because my blondie chica was calling me too. She is already used to doing the cabana with me when my spot was occupied. I ignored her calls though. I already had her earlier in the week. Plus she has a tendency to be late for the time we agree to meet. Her constantly doing that puts her on my low priority list. Maybe she'll learn to respect my time, maybe she won't.
I have about 5 dominican cupid contacts (numbers ). Since I have been here in Sosua, I went to meet one that lives in PP. Lied about her age. In her profile she says she is 29. Admits in person, she is 41. Said her english speaking ability was good in her profile. That was a lie too. She wasnt cute. She had the Mr Ed thing going on with her grill. She had braces around her front teeth. With a tooth missing on each side where the braces stop. Ironically she had a nice body and had a job. But her face up close has some hard miles on it. Too many strikes. I didn't call her again, and she never called me either. Works for me.
The other lives in Santiago. She's 45. After struggling with her on the phone, I decided it wasnt worth the effort of meeting her. And if she is looking for a serious relationship, that could be problematic towards me maximizing the enjoyment of my vacation. All the others, I decided not to call. There is enough action in Sosua to keep me occupied and satisfied.
My point in all of this. I rejoined DC to have fun connecting with honies while back home. But when it comes to pursuing them when I am in country, I tend to fall off my pursuit. And since I don't talk to them or skype with them, I really don't know if its worth the effort to go see them or them come to see me. But when you have a woman right in front of you (in the vicinity of my hotel) that you are attracted to, the incentive to pursue is realized in the moment.
SavePros321
10-13-13, 14:02
Well bros, I'm on day 13 of an 18 day trip. Starting on Oct 1. My trip is going as follows. I'll start in the middle. Starting 2 mornings ago. I met a pair of young chicas I've seen walking around all over town, and at the beach. But this particular morning while sitting at NG I took a number (no pun intended) from the one with the red streaks in her hair. I like to grab numbers from cute chicas that have the potential of being candidates. It's no guarantee I'll call them, but I like to take numbers in case I want to check any of them out.
My San Pedro chica has been here in Sosua since Oct 8. So as you can gather, my solo fun started earlier on Oct 1, before she got there. I would consider her a non pro with semi pro tendencies. However, since I don't know what the fuck she does in San Pedro (she lost her job, and has an apartment, she could be a full time pro in San Pedro, or elsewhere, and I just don't know it?) Great report bro. Thanks for taking the time (while on your trip) to post one. I know exactly what you mean about the SP chica. I met a chica on DC who says she lives in Cabarete, has a kid, and says she lives "Sola". I hadn't gotten around to asking her what she does for a living, but I'm pretty sure it's a combination of Western Union novios/tricking on the side.
How much are you paying for your vehicle rental this trip? Did you get it from SDQ or STI?
SavePros321
10-13-13, 20:01
I have about 5 dominican cupid contacts (numbers ). Since I have been here in Sosua, I went to meet one that lives in PP. Lied about her age. In her profile she says she is 29. Admits in person, she is 41. Said her english speaking ability was good in her profile. That was a lie too. She wasnt cute. She had the Mr Ed thing going on with her grill. She had braces around her front teeth. With a tooth missing on each side where the braces stop. Ironically she had a nice body and had a job. But her face up close has some hard miles on it. Too many strikes. I didn't call her again, and she never called me either. Works for me.
The other lives in Santiago. She's 45. After struggling with her on the phone, I decided it wasnt worth the effort of meeting her. And if she is looking for a serious relationship, that could be problematic towards me maximizing the enjoyment of my vacation. All the others, I decided not to call. There is enough action in Sosua to keep me occupied and satisfied.
My point in all of this. I rejoined DC to have fun connecting with honies while back home. But when it comes to pursuing them when I am in country, I tend to fall off my pursuit. And since I don't talk to them or skype with them, I really don't know if its worth the effort to go see them or them come to see me. But when you have a woman right in front of you (in the vicinity of my hotel) that you are attracted to, the incentive to pursue is realized in the moment.Yep, that has happened to me every trip to Sosua. I spend about a month gathering contacts from Puerto Plata to Cabarete, and then when I am there on the ground I get so overwhelmed with "what's right in front of you" that I do not call my contacts. Which is why I believe that (for me) if you are going to pursue these online chicas, it is best not to be in an all-puta environment, LOL. It's just too easy to say "2 hours for you to show up because you need to find a baby sitter and take a taxi? Aint nobody got time fo that!"
As for the 45's, the DR does have some fine-ass MILFs. But the problem is that you've got the 18-28yr olds throwing pussy at you left and right that it is hard to pass them up for an older woman. They are on my "to do" list though. I have a saved search in DC dedicated to 30-45's.
I never knew I liked young pussy until I had 3 19 year olds on a Sosua trip. I was hooked. Sosua illiminates the the need for DC. I use DC when I am going to be in SD. It can be fun having a chica to wife up with for a while.
Yep, that has happened to me every trip to Sosua. I spend about a month gathering contacts from Puerto Plata to Cabarete, and then when I am there on the ground I get so overwhelmed with "what's right in front of you" that I do not call my contacts. Which is why I believe that (for me) if you are going to pursue these online chicas, it is best not to be in an all-puta environment, LOL. It's just too easy to say "2 hours for you to show up because you need to find a baby sitter and take a taxi? Aint nobody got time fo that!"
As for the 45's, the DR does have some fine-ass MILFs. But the problem is that you've got the 18-28yr olds throwing pussy at you left and right that it is hard to pass them up for an older woman. They are on my "to do" list though. I have a saved search in DC dedicated to 30-45's.
Great report bro. Thanks for taking the time (while on your trip) to post one. I know exactly what you mean about the SP chica. I met a chica on DC who says she lives in Cabarete, has a kid, and says she lives "Sola". I hadn't gotten around to asking her what she does for a living, but I'm pretty sure it's a combination of Western Union novios / tricking on the side.
How much are you paying for your vehicle rental this trip? Did you get it from SDQ or STI?In Sosua. I rented from 2 places thus far. No need to rent a car in SDQ or STI. I flew into POP, and will fly out of POP. The 1st place I rented was from a Canadian who has his car rental inside of the Seabreeze hotel. His name is Noel. He charges $40 per day which includes insurance. His vehicles are in pretty decent shape. I rented his Honda Pilot. I usually get his 4 cylinder Element but it was unavailable. The next time I rented was from Cheepy rental. Owners name is Mike. He charged me $30 per day for a semi raggedy Isuzui Rodeo. At least the air con worked. I rented for 5 days and came back and rented it for an additional 2 days at a reduced cost. I had already got used to the damn thing. Cheepy is located next to Tradewinds condos. All prices from both places included basic insurance with a $500 deductible.
Great news guys. If you are on a t-mobile post paid plan, you can now get free data and texting when traveling international. The DR is on this plan. You pay 20 cents a minute for calls.
Now heres the catch, which I think is good news. If a girl from the DR calls you it will cost HER more. I never talk long with Dominican girls anyway, I only ask three questions: 1) Where are you?, 2) Is your period on?, 3) How long before you get here? From my experience if you talk to long with Dominicanas they will eventually start begging for money.
SavePros321
10-16-13, 22:02
Have fun while you can. If Chase is scared, then you know shit is about to get ugly really quickly:
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Chase Bank Limits Cash Withdrawals, Bans International Wire Transfers
Preparing for looming financial crisis in USA?
Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars. Com
October 16, 2013
Chase Bank has moved to limit cash withdrawals while banning business customers from sending international wire transfers from November 17 onwards, prompting speculation that the bank is preparing for a looming financial crisis in the United States. Numerous business customers with Chase BusinessSelect Checking and Chase BusinessClassic accounts have received letters over the past week informing them that cash activity (both deposits and withdrawals) will be limited to a $50,000 total per statement cycle from November 17 onwards.
The letter reads;
Dear Business Customer,
Starting November 17, 2013:
- You will no longer be able to send international wire transfers. You will still be able to send domestic wires and receive both domestic and international wires. We'll cancel any international wire transfers, including reccurring ones, you scheduled to be sent after this date.
- Your cash activity limit for these accounts (s) will be $50,000 per statement cycle, per account. Cash activity is the combined total of cash deposits made at branches, night drops and ATMs and cash withdrawals made at branches (including purchases of money orders) and ATMs.
These changes will help us more effectively manage the risks involved with these types of transactions.
Shortly after we posted this story, other Chase business customers confirmed they had also received similar or identical letters.
'I'm a Chase customer with both of the type accounts mentioned and got the letter posted, ' wrote one.
'I have been a loyal customer of Chase for 11 years and I received the letter for my business and when I called about this I was told basically [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off and find another bank! ' added another.
Chase is obviously very keen to make it hard for their customers to have any kind of control over their savings and is trying to prevent them from sending dollars abroad, prompting concerns that Cyprus-style account gouging could occur in America.
Speculation is rife that the bank is preparing for some kind of economic crisis by 'locking down' its customers' money. Although most still expect a deal to be struck to prevent a US debt default, its impact would 'shake financial markets to a degree not seen since the Great Depression, ' according to experts.
Others fear the move to restrict international wire transfers is part of a plan to protect against a near-future collapse of the US dollar.
http://www.infowars.com/chase-bank-limits-cash-withdrawals-bans-international-wire-transfers/
El Lobo Solo
10-17-13, 17:18
Have fun while you can. If Chase is scared, then you know shit is about to get ugly really quickly:Maybe they are under investigation for money laundering. Maybe their system has been completely taken over by hackers. There are so many other possible explanations.
Sorry about the absence folks but people close to me know that I have been at my new spot. Well, I'm back in the DR for the Jazz Festival. First, thanks Sir Charles for the logistics info.
We got a full Jazz lineup all weekend fellas. The VIP seats are 150usd each with the other non premium seats gratis. Thursday is Puerto Plata at 8pm. Friday and Saturday are Sosua. Sunday is Cabarette. The Sosua show has been moved from Casa marina to Mirador (check Sosuanews). From what I'm hearing, there is a lot of interest but the event has had a few problems. A big time Jazz Festival in the DR wouldn't be right without a few fuckups. Watch your drinking and driving fellas. I wonder what guy at the Puerto Plata show will be posting that he found the girls of his dreams at the Jazz festival. He just didn't know that she was tricking at Dlatins the last two weeks LOL.
SavePros321
10-31-13, 13:13
Sorry about the absence folks but people close to me know that I have been at my new spot. Well, I'm back in the DR for the Jazz Festival. First, thanks Sir Charles for the logistics info.
We got a full Jazz lineup all weekend fellas. The VIP seats are 150usd each with the other non premium seats gratis. Thursday is Puerto Plata at 8pm. Friday and Saturday are Sosua. Sunday is Cabarette. The Sosua show has been moved from Casa marina to Mirador (check Sosuanews). From what I'm hearing, there is a lot of interest but the event has had a few problems. A big time Jazz Festival in the DR wouldn't be right without a few fuckups. Watch your drinking and driving fellas. I wonder what guy at the Puerto Plata show will be posting that he found the girls of his dreams at the Jazz festival. He just didn't know that she was tricking at Dlatins the last two weeks LOL.Keep us updated on how it goes. I can imagine it would be something like the Essence Festival in New Orleans on steroids (as far as the abundance of hot women milling around)!
Rain, rain and more rain. Not a good start for the Jazz festival. Just met up with Brother P at Rumbas and it seemed to be twice as many guys than girls. Damn!
Peters is not open yet. Its a sign on the door saying they still have things to work out. Latinos is closed. El Flow is closed. Winners circle is now enclosed and half the size. Told Brother P about that new spot in Cabarette and he said it was nice last time he was there. Its supposed to be two stories on the beach. I'm getting 42 to 1 money exchange on the street. Lots of new chicas in Rumbas but they have that hardcore look. Walked through and didn't know any chicas, thats a first. I'm thinking about trying a Haitian rather thanI fuck with any of these hardcore Dominicanas.
If it wasnt for the Jazz festival I wouldn't be here. Sosua has the feel of a place on its last days as we know it. Sosua is in transition.
Sosua has the feel of a place on its last days as we know it. Sosua is in transition.Buy Brother P a drink on me; I'll pay you back someday.
Your report sounds scary to say the least. One of my favorites places in the world to play in jeopardy? Fuck me to tears!
I blame the fucking tourists!
Buy Brother P a drink on me; I'll pay you back someday.
Your report sounds scary to say the least. One of my favorites places in the world to play in jeopardy? Fuck me to tears!
I blame the fucking tourists!On the contrary my friend. We kept running into your girls last night, the Tomjackin legend lives on and Sosua is still fun. Me and brother P hit four Roses and after a few drinks we were ready. I bumped into a set of twins that wouldn't leave my mind. Brother P picked up the finest chic I have seen in Sosua this trip.
Earlier we were sitting in Merengue and brother P said"Thats one of Tomjackins girls", I explain to him how Tomjackin snatched one of my favoritas. Then a light skinned Dominicana walked by and brother P said"Thats another one of Tomjackins girls". I said "Damn who hasnt he fucked". Took home my Haitian delight and she is looking at me now playing with my dick. Hopefully the Jazz to won't be rained out today.
Today is beach day for a mani / pedi followed by a massage and fuck from my favorite beach girl.
Rain, rain and more rain. Not a good start for the Jazz festival. Just met up with Brother P at Rumbas and it seemed to be twice as many guys than girls. Damn!
If it wasnt for the Jazz festival I wouldn't be here. Sosua has the feel of a place on its last days as we know it. Sosua is in transition.I had a feeling the Festival would bring more guys, but more than chicas damn! I think I will wait 2 weeks and catch the chicas when they are hungry again!
Sosua has the feel of a place on its last days as we know it. Sosua is in transition.For those that only know this Sosua, it is paradise. I saw the writing on the wall a long time ago and its panned out pretty much as I had envisioned it. Whereas you have gringos trying to be a big fish in a small Sosua pond, I lay low and under the radar these days when I'm there. Have fun at the Jazz Fest! I would probably be at that, if I was in town. I prefer that vibe over the Rick Ross rap bars.
Having a ball, don't have time to report now. I'm at the bikini show at Victoria hotel now. Sorry but I got to get home to my pc to edit these videos in a few days. Coming up videos from the jazz festival and bikini show. It ain't enough bars and pussy in Sosua for me and brother P.
i've been to boca chica about 8 times since 2008 and it always gets the best of me. zappata is where i usual stay but i'm not paying 80usd for boca. i find aparta hotel 50 yards from the beach for 40 per night without ac. euro dudes are kings in boca. they get all the new and old pussy. as i walk around boca to survey things, i see an old dominican street hustler that is always there. i try to walk by unnoticed but i hear my name being yelled from across the street. he said" hey gogo my man, i have perfect girl for you". i'm just chilling and say no grasia. after my walk i go to the room to take a cold shower but its no hot water and i still don't have the tv remote. then i get a knock on the door and i opened it thinking it was my remote. it was the maid saying a chic is down stairs waiting on me. what? no one knows i'm here and i just checked in 30 minutes ago. the boca chica hustle is in full effect already. i go downstairs and its the dominican hustler with a beautiful girl. i asked how he knew where i was staying and he replied" i know everything". i told him and the girl that i didn't need a girl now and they left. but the truth is that i don't like dudes pulling pussy for me. as i'm going back up i tell the front desk that i still don't have my remote and she says okay.
an hour later i head to the strip looking for lobster. i found a spot on the street where i could eat and people watch. i had lobster with fries and two bottles of water for 800p. while i was eating this pretty little thing walked by, made eye contact then came over and introduced herself. she asked if she could sit down but i told her i don't like to talk while i eat. she moved 25 feet away then came over after i finished eating. lets call her c for cinco mil chic. i ask her the standard interview question and she says 1500p for two hours. i'm like okay, vamos. we get to the hotel she checks her cedula and we head to my room. i say let me take a quick shower but she stops me. she says,"popi i have bambino that needs milk and times are hard", but i've heard that story a thousand times. get to the chase baby. c says popi i need cinco mil pesos. i end all conversation and tell her to put her shoes on now. that shit was insulting, cinco mil? as i'm walking her downstairs she saying" 4 mil. 3 mil okay popi 2500p" i'm not hearing shit. she is back at the front desk claiming her cedula after being there only 5 minutes. then she asks me to buy her a beer and give her taxi fare. taxi fare? for walking 25 feet? i went back upstairs solo and laid on the bed then realized i don't have my remote so i got to get up to manually change the channel. well i'm laying there going over everything that went wrong with the chic to see if i missed any tells that would have predicted problems were coming. only sign was that when we walked to the hotel she was leading, like i was a kid following, but i wanted to watch the ass i was about to get shake. i made up my mind that i won't fuck any of these boca hustlers ever.
its starting to rain as i head out about 9pm. the strip is empty but the tables are in the street. i walk by one place and the have a sign on the sidewalk stating 75p cuba libres for happy hour. thats my drink and its at a discount. as i'm sitting there the dominican hustler dude peeks in and sees me," yo gogo my man". he sits down and asks for me to buy him a beer. i say i will buy you one of those 75p cuba libes, he says cool. i just want to vent my feelings to someone that boca aint shit. then c comes by peeks in and slivers by soaking wet. she knows i'm talking about her ass, so she comes to my table. she makes her case but admitted that she was wrong for shooting at 5k. i explained to her that she could've asked for a propina if the service was excellent, and i might have given her an extra 500p on top of the 1500p. in a way i'm glad she told me before we fucked because it could've gotten bad if she waited till after having sex. i asked for my check to pay for the 3 cuba libbers, two for me and one for the hustler, the bill came to 550p, what? its happy hour. she said happy hour was over but they forgot to take the sign down. okay fuck this. so now i'm not fucking these raggedy tricks and i'm not drinking in bars. there is a store right in front of the park in boca that severs alcohol. i asked for a little bottle of brugal enejo and a coke and ice and cup. it comes to 300p. as i'm paying, the police pull up with the lights on top of the truck flashing. i'm thinking, damn boca always fucking with me. i take my hands out of my pocket and stand there at the counter watching the police walk up to me. this joker smiles and asks the guy for a bottle of chevas regal. damn! must be nice to be policia in the dr. i grab one of the green plastic chairs and sit down to mix my drink. its a cute girl sitting 8 feet to my right and 6 euro guys on the corner playing chess.
the girl is cute with pretty toes, white teeth nice ass and a little pouch. i buy her a presidente. we talk and now her chair is next to mine but i've finished my rum. miss c walked by and rolled her eyes at me. its stopped raining and people are coming out onto the strip now. i'm standing and peeking down the street. she reaches over and starts massaging my dick through my pants to get my mind off leaving. my little soldier responded instantly. i say i'm going around the corner to take a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) by one of the dark buildings. as i'm pissing the girl walks up on me. lets call her gp for good pussy. well gp walks up as i peek at the bank poplar security guy to make sure he wasn't watching this shit. i'm in a dark corner with trash and broken beer bottles and gp sucking my dick. she asks if i have a condom i say no and she asks for 50 p to buy one from the store we were sitting at. the head was great but i've got too much class to be fucking girls in dark alley corners. i sit down in my green chair and order a second round of brugal. gp is there saying she wants to go back to my room so she can finish what she started. i'm thinking to just drink and hangout but that head was pretty good. i tell gp that i'm just drinking, nada mas. about 10 minute later she said she was going back to the spot so she could take a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140), and did i want to watch? my mouth said no but legs got up and followed. the security guy saw us go in this time but i didn't care now.
she went back to the bomb head for a minute before she strapped me up. as i slid in i was jack rabbit fucking her then i slowed down to get the full feel of the pussy. after about 8 minutes i was pulling my pants back up. she said"what you got for me"? huh! she said give her 1k peso. i hand her a 500p note and told her its more if we do tln but i want to hang out alone for now. i told gp that i will be back in 20 minutes but i want to check out the strip. i slid her 200p more to get herself a slice of pizza while i was gone.
i'm on the strip now talking to a brother from sc. he picks me for info about my travels and buys me a drink. after a few minutes i go to the restroom and as i walk out i see gp looking around as she walks the middle of the street. i duck back into the restroom as i see her big ass walk down the street. i sit down to finish talking to the brother, its now about 11; 30pm. we see miss c walk up and she says she is sorry. plus when i drink too much brugal i get into "tomjacking mode". that means every hole she has gets licked and fucked. no! i'm a classy guy can't be eating street pussy.
miss c is sitting there like a child that has learned her lesson as me and the brother talk. i said i'm going to batey club because that is the d'latins of boca. she say duo mil tln. she says lets get a good fuck out the way now then we can hit batey. at the hotel we both shower together. she was acting like a happy little girl who finally got a client. i laid on the bed as she went to work orally. after a few minutes i went to the bathroom to grab a condom. when i came out i realized christmas had come early this year. her legs were spread wide and she was rubbing her pussy. i tried to bury my head in her pussy. she looked at me, put her head back down, closed her eyes and started fucking my face. i was in full"tomjackin mode". i put the condom on and we did every position know to porn.
i said lets hit batey its 2am and she said,"baby i'm tired and want to go home'. i wasn't pissed because i was all fucked out and just wanted to hit batey by myself anyway. she said are you still going to give me duo mil. i said she deserved it for making up for her earlier fuckup. damn gogo, you weren't supposed to be fucking boca chicas, you weren't supposed to be eating street pussy, and you were supposed to stay out of bars, but now i'm back in batey.
batey had a nice feel to it, and the waitresses were fine. the talent was good, but boca had me worn down. i go sit at the front of batey and get a hamburger its now 3am, i got to 10am flight. i rise at 7am and its no damn water in the apartment. i run downstairs and the same guy who still hasn't gotten me the remote says he is checking on it, fuck. i'm turning the handles on the shower and sink trying to get enough water to atlas brush my teeth. no water. i got a bottle of listerine with a corner in it to swish in my mouth. i have some of those wipes that restaurants give you in my bag somewhere. i find 3, damn. one for my face, one for my dick, and one for the arms. can't shave so i'm at the airport looking fucked up.
the boca chica hustle always gets me.
coming up, sosua pool party reports with pics and video. also the jazz festival report. the boca experience was fresh on my mind from last night.
I think the Jazz festival was a success. The first show was in Puerto Plata on Thursday October 31st at 8pm. It was raining so me and Brother P started bar hopping in Sosua. But Friday November 1st was at the Casa marina amphitheater. It was supposed to start at 8pm but the bands didn't start till 9pm. The place was full. The also served drinks and had tee shirts for sale. The VIP price was 150usd per person for all three days of the events. That also included drinks. The seats for VIP were premium seating. Cabarette beach was Saturday but BQ ribs came over from SD and me and brother P hung out with him in Sosua.
I have this new sdhc card that is high capacity. Its the new shit for hd. It supposedly doesn't take up as much space on your computer as other sd cards videos. The problem is that my macbook would only load the pics off the card not the video. So I'm home now and my macmini unloaded everything into iphoto. So I'm trying to get the videos to itunes or imovie and its not recognizing the format. Then I tried loading the videos to youtube, but it doesn't recognize the format. Shit! I should have kept my old regular sd card. I will figure it out but the videos are on hold for now.
SavePros321
11-05-13, 18:52
That Boca shit was hilarious bro. Thanks for sharing. Sounds like a town where they try to get you coming and going.
I will figure it out but the videos are on hold for now.Sounds like you had a good time! I'm thinking about hitting Santiago & Sosua this month for a few days. Just got back from Cartagena. I'm still using my cellphone for pics and vids LOL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDXWiOPQwHs
Partying at Casa de Musica in Cuba last week.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDfsB2-jhvY&feature=youtu.be
Partying at the Jazz festival in Sosua.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsGPwKHP8Uc
Nov 2 2013, pool party in Sosua.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8ydVmHDJ4s&feature=youtu.be
Nov 2 2013, pool party in Sosua.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8ydVmHDJ4s&feature=youtu.beMuch thanks for all the videos!
Where was that pool party in Sosua? Not NG, because I did not see the silly dogs.
Partying at Casa de Musica in Cuba last week.
Nice clip with that salsa cubana.
Nov 2 2013, pool party in Sosua.Damn, I remember when they were sweating me about bringing my friend in that pool. I guess that place is on its way out. Good vid.
Much thanks for all the videos!
Where was that pool party in Sosua? Not NG, because I did not see the silly dogs.Man, I'm going to sick those dogs on you your next visit LOL. Orgasmico was correct, it was a once only party at Casa marina.
These are the girls that I met hanging out with Brother P at the beach. They came up from SD and were just partying and hanging out, real cool chicas.
I've been to Boca Chica about 8 times since 2008 and it always gets the best of me.
The Boca Chica hustle always gets me.
Coming up, Sosua pool party reports with pics and video. Also the Jazz festival report. The Boca experience was fresh on my mind from last night.Thanks for sharing your trip. It seems no matter how much experience a monger may have, we don't have any control over the chicas behavior, only our own. That being said, it's like a religion, that chicas are going to attempt to scam, try to run bait and switch tactics, or resort to asking us to buy shit or give them money for something. Even if they don't earn it. A dude can do all the interviewing he cares to prior to taking a chica to his spot. That won't stop a chica from lying. Saying whatever she needs to say to get the guy to assume they have an agreement. Something I'm noticing a lot. Are chicas going to work while on their periods and trying to hide it. Then acting like they don't know what happened. Any regulars I know, I'm going to find out when their period was last, and when it is due. Let them know, if they come and their period suddenly comes on, I'm not paying them shit.
Update on a chica : It's the 34 yr old Dom Cupid chica. The one that propositioned me to pay her for giving me a massage, then she asked me to pay her for sex (August report ). On whats app she stopped all communication when I nicely refused to send her money (supposedly for tuition, food etc ).
Well, I did get together with her in Cabarete the other day. She is very flirty with me, especially now that I'm right in front of her. What I observed about her, is how fucked up this chick really is. She is living in a house in Sosua with a man who she has 2 of her 3 children with. Back in August he supposedly was in a jail in SD. I think the dude is European (not that it means anything ). So while he was supposedly locked up, she has been on DC scouting for sponsers.
Now he's out of jail, and he's back in the house. And now she is explaining to me how she wants him to leave his own house, and live elsewhere. I'm listening to every word and paying attention to everything she is saying. (She speaks and understands english very well ). She is starting to sound like one of these fucked up mentality American women. I'm listening to her, but my imagination is telling me, she is still fucking this dude. And whatever issues she is claiming she has with him, I doubt his account of their relationship would be similar to what she is saying. She's obviously benefiting from living with him. Because she doesn't have a job. He pays for everything.
Now when it came to me, I told her I don't think her and I would make good companions. She asked why dumbfoundly. I said look how you treated me when I told you I do not send money to the DR? You cut me off. I asked her, why would any man seek a serious relationship with a woman who clearly shows a man how she thinks of him. She tried to deny it. Tried to make a plea of how desperate she was etc etc. I said, I don't care about that. I said you showed me what would happen when you don't get what you want. It also shows you don't respect my wishes / policies.
At some point, she realized that I wasnt budging from that policy. Then she wanted to know (testing me and deflecting) , if I was in country would I lend her money? I told her probably not, because she doesn't have the means to pay me back in cash. Also that mixing money and friendships causes problems. She said she would find a way to work it off. Like cooking or cleaning my spot. However, I don't really need her for that. What really caught my ear is when she made a comment that giving a woman $100 dollars is nothing to me. Implying that foreigners like me have plenty of money to offer a woman. And we should be willing to freely share it with women like her who are in need.
The bottom line, this chick is a self-centered opportunist. Who knows nothing about investing in people so they invest in her. She thinks her looks will get her by. Especially since many of the men she is dealing with are 20 or more years older. Even when we were having sex, she started telling me what what she can't do with or to me (BJ ). She surely made no effort to make sure I was straight. Meanwhile she had enjoyed everything I did to her without being asked. I guess she felt pleasing her was my reward. Thats my fault because I didn't seek enough feedback from her prior to the bedroom. (We had sex back in August, but it was just ok. Nothing special ). This time, I paid her 2000 pesos, but she got more out of it than I did.
My conclusion of her overall. She is an opportunist, an entitlement working girl, and potentially dangerous because nobody really knows what kind of relationship she has with the father of her 2 children. It's not likely he would be happy knowing she is out there fucking other men while he is paying all the bills. In fact I'm sure of it. Because I had to drop her off on the main road so she could take a moto the rest of the way to her house. Her last chess play, was asking me to spend most of my time with her when I come back and not with other women. Of course we all know what that is about. She wants all of the money she can get. More days with a dude, means more money. Meanwhile what one gets for his efforts will be substandard at best, because she likely thinks she's doing a guy a favor by laying flat for him. In December, I'll have some new rules / policies for her ass. That is, if I even bother to call her or respond to her calls.
Miss C is sitting there like a child that has learned her lesson as me and the brother talk. I said I'm going to Batey club because that is the D'latins of Boca. She say duo mil tln. She says lets get a good fuck out the way now then we can hit Batey. At the hotel we both shower together. She was acting like a happy little girl who finally got a client. I laid on the bed as she went to work orally. After a few minutes I went to the bathroom to grab a condom. When I came out I realized Christmas had come early this year. Her legs were spread wide and she was rubbing her pussy. I tried to bury my head in her pussy. She looked at me, put her head back down, closed her eyes and started fucking my face. I was in full"Tomjackin mode". I put the condom on and we did every position know to porn.Mr Gogo my well traveled Master Teacher why do you eat the pussy then put on a condom? Should I blame it on the alcohol hol hol!
Miss C is sitting there like a child that has learned her lesson as me and the brother talk. I said I'm going to consumation club because that is the D'latins of Boca. She say duo mil tln. She says lets get a good fuck out the way now then we can hit Batey. At the hotel we both shower together. She was acting like a happy little girl who finally got a client. I laid on the bed as she went to work orally. After a few minutes I went to the bathroom to grab a condom. When I came out I realized Christmas had come early this year. Her legs were spread wide and she was rubbing her pussy. I tried to bury my head in her pussy. She looked at me, put her head back down, closed her eyes and started fucking my face. I was in full"Tomjackin mode". I put the condom on and we did every position know to porn.
Mr Gogo my well traveled Master Teacher why do you eat the pussy then put on a condom? Should I blame it on the alcohol hol hol!Blaming it on the alcohol would be too easy, my friend. Lets just say my bad half won out over my good half LOL. Let me explain; As I get older half of me says "Gogo you should be enjoying these beautiful exotic women, don't worry, live life". Then the other half says" Gogo play it safe and don't let some BS slip in on you". If you read the report below about Boca Chica you can feel my internal struggle.
I've been very lucky to have never caught anything major in all my years of mongering but these are different times. In 2006 when I first started in the "old Sosua" girls weren't doing three different guys a day, but the climate has changed now. In the "old Sosua" girls were locking in to guys. They were proud to have a boyfriend and be with one foreigner. They provided the complete romantic vacation. We had breakfast, walks on the beach and club hopping at night with continuous sex all day. They cried when you left, they called everyday when you were home and yes, they begged for money. I always fucked with girls that had jobs, waitresses, girls working at bars etc. Street girls didn't cut it for me back then. Yes, I did go bareback with a few and never had any problems. It was expected when you got on the boyfriend level that BB was the consummation. I really had fun in those days and enjoyed every moment with the girls. Everything but anal was on my list.
Nowadays girls are doing way too many guys a day for me to take chances, condoms for sex has become mandatory. My job requires full physicals annually, and the last four years it felt good to not worry before a test thanks to always using condoms. But my walk on the "wild side" might be eating pussy but even that is really rare for me. I've become so conservative over the last 4 years that my sex count has gone down considerably. I've evolved with the times. I'm a monger that enjoys hanging out and being a part of the scene but every now and then that "old Gogo" comes out and I live in that moment.
I get into "Tomjacking mode". That means every hole she has gets licked and fucked. No! I'm a classy guy can't be eating street pussy.
She looked at me, put her head back down, closed her eyes and started fucking my face. I was in full"Tomjackin mode". I put the condom on and we did every position know to porn.That is quite a compliment; I think! Especially coming from one of the "Pussy Masters" in the world!
Just returned last night and will put the TR in this thread because it will get buried by bullshit in the "Sosua REPORTS" thread.
BTW Mr. G, saw our girl a few times, fed her a couple of times and got her some business with a couple of newbie's. Didn't have time for her myself, but I tried to take care of her in other ways; still a sweetie!
Logistics and things:
Flight:
Flight was out of SAN to POP on AA for $750 and change. Flights were pretty much on time and with no issues.
Hotel:
For the third time, I stayed at Casa Cayena. Wilfried met me at the airport; as usual. Casa Cayena also has a group cash rate; which is $12 cheaper than the regular rate. The place is off the main road, kind of tucked in the back towards the semi private beach. The place is extremely quiet and well kept. I did get a chance to eat in the restaurant a few times and the food was quite good. The complimentary breakfast menu had a ton of choices. Room security was never an issue. A couple of days, I lost my senses and left my room safe wide open; no issues. I think this is the only hotel where I hug the housekeepers. The entire staff is professional and overall outstanding. I abused the pool almost every evening. I will continue to stay there.
Money:
I used the WU again and got a rate of 42. 40. The WU requires either a passport or a copy of your passport. Casa Cayena will also exchange money, for about the same rate. The rest of the time I abused the ATM machines and vice-versa.
Cell Phone:
I went back to Orange and my SIM card was still up and running. I put 300 pesos of minutes on the card, which was plenty enough.
This trip I took some notes; but still details escape me!
Checking out the place:
Cruise ship nonsense: Yes, the cruise ship is happening, but according to Wilfried and Herman, it will come in 26 kilometers north of Sosua. So either of them seem to think that there would be little, no less, any affect on Sosua.
The stop letting the good people look in the bars at the bad, bad, bad people attempt:
What a fucking joke! All the bars, except D'Latin, put up CLEAR (see through) plastic windows! D'Latin was the only place to put up tinted plastic barriers. D'Latin also installed big-ass fans to help with the heat, and the fans did help.
Winner Circle was rebuilt and open; but not many customers.
Passions, CMP, and Classicos were not open.
El Flow has a new look and less customers.
Friday and Saturday afternoon Rumba was packed with women.
My favorite Italian place across from Terre Linda was closed last August, but has reopened under new management under the name Movida. Ate there twice and the thought the food was even better than the last place. Ollie's is also one of my favorite places. As well as that sandwich stand outside the casino late night, for drunken muchies!
On Saturday, the beach had a great line-up of girls walking up and down looking for work. Sunday less, Monday even more less. The action picked up a lot more on Tuesday.
So I'm sitting in my favorite spot in Rumba talking to my best pal Juan, end bar stool next to the new barrier window. Juan leaves, and this cute as a button chica comes up and we start chatting. I explained to her that I was completely out of leche and thanked her for the short conversation. I gave her a kiss on the cheek, she smiled, said goodbye, and then walked dead into the clear plastic barrier. I really tried not to laugh, but two of her friends saw the mishap and came running over and were in tears because they were laughing so hard. Juan saw it, then he came over laughing. Even though I felt bad for the girl, it was pretty funny nevertheless!
Part-2 / The Girls (being typed)
SavePros321
11-30-13, 02:51
Checking out the place:
Cruise ship nonsense: Yes, the cruise ship is happening, but according to Wilfried and Herman, it will come in 26 kilometers north of Sosua. So either of them seem to think that there would be little, no less, any affect on Sosua.
The stop letting the good people look in the bars at the bad, bad, bad people attempt:
What a fucking joke! All the bars, except D'Latin, put up CLEAR (see through) plastic windows! D'Latin was the only place to put up tinted plastic barriers. D'Latin also installed big-ass fans to help with the heat, and the fans did help.
Winner Circle was rebuilt and open; but not many customers.
Passions, CMP, and Classicos were not open.
El Flow has a new look and less customers.
Friday and Saturday afternoon Rumba was packed with women.
My favorite Italian place across from Terre Linda was closed last August, but has reopened under new management under the name Movida. Ate there twice and the thought the food was even better than the last place. Ollie's is also one of my favorite places. As well as that sandwich stand outside the casino late night, for drunken muchies!
On Saturday, the beach had a great line-up of girls walking up and down looking for work. Sunday less, Monday even more less. The action picked up a lot more on Tuesday.
Part-2 / The Girls (being typed) Thanks for the report Tomjackin. The windows don't look too bad. But I am glad I had multiple chances to enjoy the open-air bar atmosphere before the changes.
Thanks for the report bro, but what about the dogs at Newgardens LOL.
ConquerorVal
12-01-13, 01:58
Great and as always informative update. Thanks. Should repost it under Sosua thread. Found this report accidentally by checking out the photo gallery. Wonder how many drunk punters will split their lips by bonking their heads against the glass. Maybe should put some bird stickers on the partitions.
Tempoecorto
12-01-13, 02:26
Thought I would add my take on the lips of women on the isle and given that pictures speak a thousand words. Here it goes. The pout that some have is amazing even though some have very thin lips as well. Speak of the genetic mix.
as i prepare for my annual asia trip coming soon, it gave me a moment to reflect on what is happening in our sport.
i've come to the conclusion that 80 percent of the guys will probably never get to a point where they will understand this game and their role in it. their journey is about searching more than understanding. most guys just want to do what other guys are doing, usually in the same trick spots. its hardly ever about elevating to that next plateau. in other words, guys don't want to leave that"mongers comfort zone". why can't 80 percent think outside of the box? when i was young (****ager) , i would go to the movies with my boys. i soon realized that i had to walk behind the group to talk to girls, my boys hadn't caught on that the guy who wasn't walking with the group usually had the most success. the hot spots are often a side show for the seasoned vets because they have already cultivated other spots solo. learning spanish, branching out, and going solo are their weapons. meanwhile other guys are waiting for their turns in the trick spots.
the solo adventurous traveler is reaping the benefits now, along with his appreciation of keeping new spots secret. the world is a big playground, and those lazy are left behind.
the internet has opened a new world for internation travelers, but lessons will be learned. those searching will be guided to the trick spots while those that understand will use the trick spots to wonder what else exists. those that discover what else exists will have learned their past lessons and will reap the benefits. in 2014 you will have those that know and understand, and those still searching. the game will go underground and to back channels for those that understand, and those still searching will find it late, after other guys have moved on to the "new spot".
Dropped by "Sky" with Mr E yesterday afternoon. Its on Soi6 and a brother named Skeeter owns it. Small like El Flow but they had ten cute girls working there. The petite girl with all the tatoos and baseball cap was my favorite. She kept shaking her ass which had me wanting to give her a milk mustache. These dudes kept ringing this bull bell and everyone would go crazy. They were buying everyone rounds whenever the bell rang. We had to leave after a couple hours otherwise we would have been fucked up by 6pm. Hopped on the mopeds and rode around for a couple.
Hit "Candy shop", nice place with the classy lounge chairs and girls everywhere. They had a live band that played top 40 music. Its right on Walking street so you have a front seat for the show. Stayed there a couple hours then hit "Lucifers". Now this was the spot. Two live bands, one in the front playing mellow ballards then you walk through a cave like tunnel and it opens to this big ass disco. Women everywhere, and the band there was jammin hard hip hop music. Scooped a nice honey and said adios to E but he said fuck her this is just the begginning. The girl gave E a pissed look but he didn't care. We hit"Insomnia" and a couple other places and they were lively. I think I fell for a couple honeys there but E snapped me back to NOW. We then went to a nude bar where girls were doing everything but fucking. Mr E dragged me out of there not yet he said. Shit! I'm glad he was there because I would have never seen anything if I followed my instincts and left with those honeys.
Now it was time and "Flex" was the spot."Flex" is on the level of Classicos in its heyday. They don't get going good till 3am and I've been closing down Pataya every night there. Now understand there are thousands of SW everywhere free lancing for 1000bht (about 36usd).
They rule on the LB (ladyboys) is if you think it might be then it probably is, and keep walking. Another guy said check their ID for Mr or Mrs. I got into it last night with my little honey. I told her to meet me at the hotel at 3 am when I left Lucifers and she was there. But two guys from the group were arriving at the same time. So I knocked her off while they were checking in. I told her I was going out with my boys at 3:45am and she went ballistic. I told her I didn't care because I was going to hang with the fellas. I'm watching her reaction expecting some tears and drama but no the chic was pretty cool and just stormed out the room. Makes me think she had a backup plan and wasn't dealing with my bullshit. I texted her a couple hours ago for a quickie but no response. Damn girl Gogo sorry. The sex was okay but I'm back on the prowl without a fallback girl, but I'm in the right place for that kind of problem LOL.
BBL and the rest of the group arrived and switch from my rum and coke to BBLs Long Island ice teas. Man I'm still finked up and its the next day.
Went to the swap mart and brought a duo sim phone for 65 dollars, charged it and it didn't work. I'm having my girl take it back today for me. If the say sales are final and done give me an exchange it might be a scene if I go, and I don't need trouble. My girl won't let me have morning sex because she says her pussy hurts, damn. Those are the problems I'm having now but this will pass.
Tomjackin stopped by penthouse yesterday, crazy place man.
my first soapie.
all of the group had our first soapie yesterday. mr e took us to a place on 2nd road. we parked the mopeds and walked into this elegant place that looked like a big ass casino. this place was pure class. all of the male employees are dressed in black pants and shirts. we settle at a table as there are only a few guys there. there are 50 beautiful girls sitting in bleacher seats dressed to a tee. we all order drinks as we are confused. my long island iced tea was 250 baht. everyone seems nervous as we are scared to make the first move. i hear one of my boys say he liked 152 to mr e. oh oh! that was my first choice. two minutes later she gets up and comes out as we all look at each other like wtf. a group of chinese dudes had snuck in and snatched our number 1 and number 2 choices. now the race is on friends becoming competitors. bbl and all the guys start snatching girls and my head is in a spin. just five minutes ago we were nervous and sipping our drinks. fuck!
i pic an older chic because her titties talked to me. i figure if i'm getting a soapie she better have great titts. she comes out and i'm excited. i pay for my drink and 2000baht for 90 minutes.
anna takes my hand and we go to the back. we enter a room that has a bed section, an oversized jacuzzi and a swimming pool float shapped like a blowup bed, in a seperate area next to the jacuzzi. she puts on soft music and asks me to strip. i grab her tits and rub her ass as my dick grows. as with every thai girl this trip she says"you very big" (i'm no horse dicked brother but i'm no peewee either). anyway she walks away and draws the water in the jacuzzi. i walk over and get in this jacuzzi with hot water and my dick went into hidding. she hops in and then washes me with a sponge and a suddsy thing. she scrubs my chest, feet, legs, balls and dick. i sit back listening to the music completely relaxed. oh! i forgot to tell you the best; she had hair neatly trimmed on the top of her pussy. she starts sliding all over my body. she would grab my limp dick with suds on it and go down with her mouth open only to blow off the suds (complete tease). then she told me to lay on the blowup bed on the floor. she again started sliding all over me. the she did some wrestling moves. she put me in the scissors. then she slid under me facing me. the suds and the hairy pussy felt strange on my nuts and ass.
next, she put me back in the jacuzzi with some new water and rinsed me off and gave me a towel while pointing at the bed (i was now 40 minutes in). she grabs a hose and starts rinsing the suds away from our previous play area. i sit up in the bed watching this fine goddess and stroke my dick. she comes over and asks if she can smoke. i grab my ecig and we chit chat as she makes small talk. while she smokes i grab tit. she is giving us time to develope a comfort zone before sex (also killing my time). finally she starts to stoke me as we talk. my soldier was ready. she grabbed a condom (no bbbj but i wanted that hairy pussy). she puts oil on my dick then puts on the condom and lubes it. then she starts sucking. i grabber her and pull her on top. then i fip her and i'm on top. when i fucked her hard she made painful faces so i slowed it down and she got comfortable. she kept fake cumming and i eventually got off. i still had 25 minutes left and she took me back to the jacuuzi for the final soapie wash down. i got her number before she walked me out as my body felt refreshed. i'm the last dude so all the guys are waiting on me. we are going to the soapie again before i leave.
Final Pattaya report.
Okay mission accomplished, but do I consider Pattaya worth the long trip. I won't answer that yet. Certain things about the DR and Colombia that I do miss that Pattaya doesn't have. I miss the sexual air that the DR has. I miss the kiss kiss on both cheeks that the hot Dominicanas always seem to greet me with. I miss the thumping Latin music and everybody sipping a Presidente at 1pm. I miss the sweetness and beauty that the Colombianas present.
I don't miss the traffic and horns blowing that the DR has. I don't miss the constant begging and corruption in the DR. I don't miss the rain that can spoil a vacation that the DR has. I don't miss the backward way that makes no sense in the DR And I don't miss seeing Americans (no offense guys).
With all this said, I love the calmness of Pattaya. The traffic flows correctly and politely. Things are quiet unless you are near a bar or club. The food is cheap and good. The place is the safest I've ever been. The Russians mind their own and aren't a problem to me (I salute the fine Russian ladies with their sundresses on and perfect bodies, walking beautiful). There are thousands of women everywhere you turn. I like the Asian humbleness. So yes! Pattaya is worth the rip and my number one spot now.
Thanks again to Mr E who made this the best time of all our trips.
Coolie High
02-01-14, 09:13
as i prepare for my annual asia trip coming soon, it gave me a moment to reflect on what is happening in our sport.
i've come to the conclusion that 80 percent of the guys will probably never get to a point where they will understand this game and their role in it. their journey is about searching more than understanding. most guys just want to do what other guys are doing, usually in the same trick spots. its hardly ever about elevating to that next plateau. in other words, guys don't want to leave that"mongers comfort zone". why can't 80 percent think outside of the box? when i was young (****ager) , i would go to the movies with my boys. i soon realized that i had to walk behind the group to talk to girls, my boys hadn't caught on that the guy who wasn't walking with the group usually had the most success. the hot spots are often a side show for the seasoned vets because they have already cultivated other spots solo. learning spanish, branching out, and going solo are their weapons. meanwhile other guys are waiting for their turns in the trick spots.
the solo adventurous traveler is reaping the benefits now, along with his appreciation of keeping new spots secret. the world is a big playground, and those lazy are left behind.
the internet has opened a new world for internation travelers, but lessons will be learned. those searching will be guided to the trick spots while those that understand will use the trick spots to wonder what else exists. those that discover what else exists will have learned their past lessons and will reap the benefits. in 2014 you will have those that know and understand, and those still searching. the game will go underground and to back channels for those that understand, and those still searching will find it late, after other guys have moved on to the "new spot".mr. gogo in short some people get it and other don't. for those who don't want to grow, fuckem and letem stay on stupid. you can see on this forum and others who gets it and those who don't. the key is to be around people that's on your level and above or catz whose openminded enough to strive to take their game to another level.
and on that note, my apologies for not being able to make that great asia tour with you, but make sure you have great time, send ol coolie a couple snap shots and be safe my brother.
Agreed, why would i be where everyone is at talking to leftovers!
The solo adventurous traveler is reaping the benefits now, along with his appreciation of keeping new spots secret. The world is a big playground, and those lazy are left behind.
The internet has opened a new world for internation travelers, but lessons will be learned. Those searching will be guided to the trick spots while those that understand will use the trick spots to wonder what else exists. Those that discover what else exists will have learned their past lessons and will reap the benefits. In 2014 you will have those that know and understand, and those still searching. The game will go underground and to back channels for those that understand, and those still searching will find it late, after other guys have moved on to the "new spot".[/QUOTE]
ConquerorVal
02-01-14, 16:02
Final Pattaya report.
So yes! Pattaya is worth the rip and my number one spot now.I don't usually check this thread, so I was surprised to find a report on Pattaya here. Enjoyed your post, but at this time I have to say my visit to Sosua was more rewarding than Pattaya. I was really disappointed with the girls and some of the go go bars. I think a lot has to do with expectations and one's mongering style. I will post my thoughts on Pattaya shortly.
I don't usually check this thread, so I was surprised to find a report on Pattaya here. Enjoyed your post, but at this time I have to say my visit to Sosua was more rewarding than Pattaya. I was really disappointed with the girls and some of the go go bars. I think a lot has to do with expectations and one's mongering style. I will post my thoughts on Pattaya shortly.I've been neglecting this thread lately because I have been cultivating other spots, plus I have had problems with pics and videos being posted. The "Gogo thread" is mostly a freelance thread that Jackson has allowed to do things differently. If you want to drag your report over here, feel free to do so.
Revere and Coolie, thanks. Don't get me wrong, Sosua is still fun but I see guys that have status that are stuck there. I can understand a guy who can only afford to take 2 trips a year heading to Sosua, but when I see guys who are police officers, firemen, lawyers and they have the time and money but only want to be on Pedro Clisante every three months, thats fucked up to me. When I tell these guys to learn Spanish and branch out they look at me like I'm stupid or something. So why am I wasting my breath? I also now realize that I don't actually want these guys breaking out and fucking up my spots and making my new spot the next Sosua. To each his own.
Its funny when you look at the success of the solo travelers that have learned. We have Savepros, Mani, and Combo (all solo travelers) who have branched out and learned Spanish having a ball in Colombia. They stop in on the Sosua thread as a past place, bravo guys. We have Tomjackin, Mr E, Wrx2005 (all solo travelers) and a few other hitting Asia and other spots having a ball. Even Oldkool, BQ, AD and a few others who do SD, who rarely visit Sosua. Even the Puerto Plata crew, Frannie, Charles and others only visit Sosua as a walk through.
Most of these guys are seasoned vets, Close to or over 40, and they ALL roll solo. Heck! I can't think of any groups that leave Sosua except "Grownman" and his crew (bravo guys). I used to think the solo travelers were weird, stuckup dudes, but now I get it.
I will be reporting here from Asia shortly, so stay tuned.
Final Pattaya report.
Okay mission accomplished, but do I consider Pattaya worth the long trip. I won't answer that yet. Certain things about the DR and Colombia that I do miss that Pattaya doesn't have. I miss the sexual air that the DR has. I miss the kiss kiss on both cheeks that the hot Dominicanas always seem to greet me with. I miss the thumping Latin music and everybody sipping a Presidente at 1pm. I miss the sweetness and beauty that the Colombianas present.
I don't miss the traffic and horns blowing that the DR has. I don't miss the constant begging and corruption in the DR. I don't miss the rain that can spoil a vacation that the DR has. I don't miss the backward way that makes no sense in the DR And I don't miss seeing Americans (no offense guys).
With all this said, I love the calmness of Pattaya. The traffic flows correctly and politely. Things are quiet unless you are near a bar or club. The food is cheap and good. The place is the safest I've ever been. The Russians mind their own and aren't a problem to me (I salute the fine Russian ladies with their sundresses on and perfect bodies, walking beautiful). There are thousands of women everywhere U-turn. I like the Asian humbleness. So yes! Pattaya is worth the rip and my number one spot now.
Thanks again to Mr E who made this the best time of all our trips.Sums up my feeling exactly.
BTW I am here in Pattaya for 3 months, send me a PM if you have time to get together
SavePros321
02-02-14, 05:30
Its funny when you look at the success of the solo travelers that have learned. We have Savepros, Mani, and Combo (all solo travelers) who have branched out and learned Spanish having a ball in Colombia. They stop in on the Sosua thread as a past place, bravo guys. We have Tomjackin, Mr E, Wrx2005 (all solo travelers) and a few other hitting Asia and other spots having a ball. Even Oldkool, BQ, AD and a few others who do SD, who rarely visit Sosua. Even the Puerto Plata crew, Frannie, Charles and others only visit Sosua as a walk through.
Most of these guys are seasoned vets, Close to or over 40, and they ALL roll solo. I used to think the solo travelers were weird, stuckup dudes, but now I get it. Good post Gogo. Now you see the method to our madness, LOL. Especially now that you have you other "new spot" ;)
I know it may seem "stuck up", but there is no greater freedom than not being beholden to a group or wingman. If I find a nice chica that I want to hang with from sun up to sun down, I don't need to hear shit like "Aw come on bro, there is plenty more of them where that came from. Come out and hang with your boys.", then head to a bar and sit around thinking "damn, I had exactly want I was looking for back at my spot. Why did I leave there to come looking for what I already found?"
I am to the point where I the only time I am speaking English in Colombia is with my taxi driver who picks me up from the airport, and with the guy I rent from. I can hold entire conversations with chicas in Spanish; I can order food and ask for directions in Spanish; I can lay in bed with my favorita watching "Comando Elite" on canal RCN and pick up on about 80% of what is happening and is being said on the screen. Do not think I could have gotten to this level hanging with English only speaking mongers the entire length of my trip. I believe traveling in a group or with a wingman keeps you from allowing yourself to be fully immersed in the culture and your surroundings.
Now don't get me wrong, traveling with a group or a wingman does serve its purpose security-wise. It's always good to have someone watching your back and checking up on you (and vice-a-versa). But I can't travel with someone who needs their hand held every step of the way, or did not put in any effort to research what they were getting into. Those kind of wingmen only slow you down and want to sit up under you the entire trip once boredom sets in (from not being able to find a chica they click properly with due to a lack of Spanish-speaking skills that go beyond "Sucky sucky sin condon? Cuanto cuesta?"
I do miss shooting the shit with some old heads that I would meet in Sosua (in between sessions with chicas), but I just can't bring myself to spend anymore time there. Those of you who have taken the red pill and have unplugged from the matrix understand where I am coming from :D
ConquerorVal
02-02-14, 06:43
I used to think the solo travelers were weird, stuckup dudes, but now I get it.I don't think my spouse would appreciate Sosua or Pattaya as much if I would take her with me. Also, I can totally understand what you're saying. It almost sounds like you had a bit of a Thai pussy induced epiphany.
I like hanging out with the guys but the freedom of the lone wolf is very nice. I make friends fast and seem to be very sociable. But It is hard to know what your buddy is going to do. I always feel responsible for my wing men. This takes away from my care free fun. Last trip One guy was a cheap scape and the other very anal. 6 days with those guys was a buzz killer. I too have improved my spanish enough o go any where I want. I tend to blend in with my dress and love of dancing. Some times being with a group attracts attention. I prefer staying under the radar. In Sosua you can entertain your fantacys. I never knew I want young pussy until I had the option and almost every time I went for the young stuff. Last night when I was in the strip club I was electing body types for my next trip.
UOTE=SavePros321; 1526791]Good post Gogo. Now you see the method to our madness, LOL. Especially now that you have you other "new spot".
I know it may seem "stuck up", but there is no greater freedom than not being beholden to a group or wingman. If I find a nice chica that I want to hang with from sun up to sun down, I don't need to hear shit like "Aw come on bro, there is plenty more of them where that came from. Come out and hang with your boys.", then head to a bar and sit around thinking "damn, I had exactly want I was looking for back at my spot. Why did I leave there to come looking for what I already found?"
I don't think my spouse would appreciate Sosua or Pattaya as much if I would take her with me. Also, I can totally understand what you're saying. It almost sounds like you had a bit of a Thai pussy induced epiphany.I had an epiphany because because I fully understood what I already knew. I was holding out hope that most guys would be / think like me, but I've come to realize that the solo traveler has to appreciate what he has. Its easy to be part of a group but hard to go solo sometimes. Time makes you realize this, and dealing with other peoples BS also confirms this.
I found Thai pussy average. I can't rate them above the Dominicanas, Colombianas, or even the Cubanas in the sex department. But they were petite (which I like) and humble and sweet. Half were very boring and mechanical in bed, some just down right lazy. But I also found Pattaya intoxicating and different.
I had a conversation with my Thai girl when I was in Thailand that opened my eyes a lot. I asked" What's up with all these ladyboys and how can they accept such a thing?". She said" In our culture the women are very conservative. They believe in marriage and love but not sex. The ladyboys are for guys that want sex besides basic intercourse. If a guy wants freaky shit he doesn't get it from his Thai girl". Its not a freaky heterosexual culture.
It made sense to me. While I was there I had supposedly pros come out the shower with a towel and slide under the covers acting shy. I had girls who only fucked missionary. I had girls who didn't like sucking dick. My first girl in Thailand was the freakiest and I ran her off unfortunately and I ran into these dead fishes. But you are correct, Thai pussy does make you appreciate other pussy.
I used to think the solo travelers were weird, stuckup dudes, but now I get it.Finally you understand me!
SavePros321
02-09-14, 04:38
Just like your job requires you to do refresher training every so often, I'm dropping this video link for us vets, LOL:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyzSgVJ5h1s
Troubleman69
02-09-14, 06:09
My first trip to Santo Domingo was with 2 other dudes, and it was cool. Primarily, because it was my 1st visit, and second because I didn't know much spanish. 4 out of the next 5 trips have been solo, and I love it. Last Feb, I had one dude that I'm cool with and his buddy show up, and it was pretty much a disaster for them. One guy had money problems, but he loved the casas. The other guy was paying for all of his shit. Me, I hung out with my main chica, and hit a couple of other ones. I pretty much gave them to my english speaking driver, and let him deal with their shit. Like SavePros, I can pretty much do what I need to do in spanish. I can hold conversations for hours, order food, stuff at the hotels, shop, watch tv or whatever. Pretty much the only time I speak english, is when I use my old driver, but I also have other drivers who are spanish only. Even my english speaking driver speaks to me more in spanish than english now. None of the women I deal with there can speak english. Maybe a word or two here and there, but that's it. It's to the point now where I don't even tell people that I'm going, and those that ask me about the DR, I steer them to Sosua. They don't want to put in the work to learn the language, the culture, nada. Eventually, I plan to make it over to Colombia, and other countries, but right now I'm good in Santo Domingo, and all that it has to offer. I came back Wed from Santo Domingo, and I had to catch myself because I was answering questions from Customs in spanish. That's probably why that MF didn't stamp my shit, and I had to go to another area for another round of dumb ass questions. I wish Delta would add a direct flight from here to Medellin.
Just like your job requires you to do refresher training every so often, I'm dropping this video link for us vets, LOL:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyzSgVJ5h1sGreat post Savepros. I agree with CubaDave about the fact of not sending money, I prefer to spend money on them when I'm there. But I think he didn't fully explain certain things.
If a girl is getting 2000k USD a month, initially she isn't going to fuck that up by running to D'latins. She is going to stay out of Sosua to keep from getting exposed, but she will be fucking a Dominican guy on the down low who understands her situation. After time if the guy balks at sending the regular 2000, then the girl might say"fuck it" and tap out. I've known guys who send 1000k a month and eventually the fee escalates. I knew a girl who fell for a German guy and he purchased a house in Casa Linda and they had a child. After 2 years she was in El Flow not giving a fuck about him. My point is, even if you hook one of these Dominicanas up eventually their mindset isn't to realize how good they have have it, they are prone to fuck it up.
My first trip to Santo Domingo was with 2 other dudes, and it was cool. Primarily, because it was my 1st visit, and second because I didn't know much spanish. 4 out of the next 5 trips have been solo, and I love it. Last Feb, I had one dude that I'm cool with and his buddy show up, and it was pretty much a disaster for them. One guy had money problems, but he loved the casas. The other guy was paying for all of his shit. Me, I hung out with my main chica, and hit a couple of other ones. I pretty much gave them to my english speaking driver, and let him deal with their shit. Like SavePros, I can pretty much do what I need to do in spanish. I can hold conversations for hours, order food, stuff at the hotels, shop, watch tv or whatever. Pretty much the only time I speak english, is when I use my old driver, but I also have other drivers who are spanish only. Even my english speaking driver speaks to me more in spanish than english now. None of the women I deal with there can speak english. Maybe a word or two here and there, but that's it. It's to the point now where I don't even tell people that I'm going, and those that ask me about the DR, I steer them to Sosua. They don't want to put in the work to learn the language, the culture, nada. Eventually, I plan to make it over to Colombia, and other countries, but right now I'm good in Santo Domingo, and all that it has to offer. I came back Wed from Santo Domingo, and I had to catch myself because I was answering questions from Customs in spanish. That's probably why that MF didn't stamp my shit, and I had to go to another area for another round of dumb ass questions. I wish Delta would add a direct flight from here to Medellin.That shows you are on the next level bro. You are advanced that's why you are balling in SD. I was talking with BQribs tonight after he sent me pics of him and his girl in Jabacaroba, and he was having a great time. My Uncle who lives in SD does weekend trips to Boca Chica and Bonae (sp) regularly for new talent.
I was telling Bq and Savepros this week how SD was still at the top of my list for retirement. It has a great airport where I saw a ticket to SDQ for 320 USD last week. Medellin is cool but its 600 plus. Fly into POP and its 600 plus now, I remember in 2007 and it was 289. Sd has all the big city amenities that I like also. There are movies, baseball games, metro, and buses coming / going from everywhere. Its not like the North coast where everyone is watching and in your buisiness, everyone in SD has an agenda. It also has women galore who will fit into your program.
I hope SD keeps kicking these newbies in the ass, because they haven't done the homework to appreciate her. Sosua is for them, point and click.
SD is the new Disney but most guys can't rise to her level so they won't enjoy the ride.
SavePros321
02-09-14, 14:52
My first trip to Santo Domingo was with 2 other dudes, and it was cool. Primarily, because it was my 1st visit, and second because I didn't know much spanish. 4 out of the next 5 trips have been solo, and I love it. Last Feb, I had one dude that I'm cool with and his buddy show up, and it was pretty much a disaster for them. One guy had money problems, but he loved the casas. The other guy was paying for all of his shit. Me, I hung out with my main chica, and hit a couple of other ones. I pretty much gave them to my english speaking driver, and let him deal with their shit. Like SavePros, I can pretty much do what I need to do in spanish. I can hold conversations for hours, order food, stuff at the hotels, shop, watch tv or whatever. Pretty much the only time I speak english, is when I use my old driver, but I also have other drivers who are spanish only. Even my english speaking driver speaks to me more in spanish than english now. None of the women I deal with there can speak english. Maybe a word or two here and there, but that's it. It's to the point now where I don't even tell people that I'm going, and those that ask me about the DR, I steer them to Sosua. They don't want to put in the work to learn the language, the culture, nada. Eventually, I plan to make it over to Colombia, and other countries, but right now I'm good in Santo Domingo, and all that it has to offer. I came back Wed from Santo Domingo, and I had to catch myself because I was answering questions from Customs in spanish. That's probably why that MF didn't stamp my shit, and I had to go to another area for another round of dumb ass questions. I wish Delta would add a direct flight from here to Medellin.Good report Troubleman. I'm glad to see that you are making SD work for you.
SavePros321
02-09-14, 18:30
If a girl is getting 2000k USD a month, initially she isn't going to fuck that up by running to D'latins. She is going to stay out of Sosua to keep from getting exposed, but she will be fucking a Dominican guy on the down low who understands her situation.I agree with this. She could also decide to keep her regulars. If monger has her contact info from when he met her in Sosua and decides he wants to do SD this time around, he could call her up once he gets to SD and she can still make "Pocket Change" without ever having to step foot in Sosua.
Her Western Union novio could ask her (via Skype or Facebook) : "You haven't been going to Sosua, have you?"
Chica: "No papi."
And she's be telling the truth, lmao!
Why do we care who she is screwing when we are not there. We are banging everything that move.
I agree with this. She could also decide to keep her regulars. If monger has her contact info from when he met her in Sosua and decides he wants to do SD this time around, he could call her up once he gets to SD and she can still make "Pocket Change" without ever having to step foot in Sosua.
Her Western Union novio could ask her (via Skype or Facebook) : "You haven't been going to Sosua, have you?"
Chica: "No papi."
And she's be telling the truth, lmao!
SavePros321
02-10-14, 18:42
Why do we care who she is screwing when we are not there. We are banging everything that move.At least follow the conversation bro. If you are fine with being a trick (sending money to your supposed "novia" and she in turn then spending the money on her Dominican boyfriend) , that's on you, LOL.
I was telling Bq and Savepros this week how SD was still at the top of my list for retirement. It has a great airport where I saw a ticket to SDQ for 320 USD last week. Medellin is cool but its 600 plus.IMO, you can't go wrong either way. For me, the DR is always an easier place to get laid and there are more gringos or people that have been in the USA (street hustlers also). But, Medellin has a lot of quality of life factors that I like. Little things like better infrastructure, metered cabs, nicer apartment options, etc. Colombia is also much bigger and provides more options if you want to bounce to other cities. It would be interesting to do a 6 month stint in each city and compare.
IMO, you can't go wrong either way. For me, the DR is always an easier place to get laid and there are more gringos or people that have been in the USA (street hustlers also). But, Medellin has a lot of quality of life factors that I like. Little things like better infrastructure, metered cabs, nicer apartment options, etc. Colombia is also much bigger and provides more options if you want to bounce to other cities. It would be interesting to do a 6 month stint in each city and compare.Colombia has better "quality of life" factors? That's one of the bigger understatements I have heard in a long time.
Comparing a city in the DR to a place like MDE is like comparing third world to second world. Unless you are a complete horndog, I suspect that most people would consider things like clean water, higher quality meat and produce, and better infrastructure to be somewhat important. Yes punting in MDE is more expensive, but only a little.
Great post Savepros. I agree with CubaDave about the fact of not sending money, I prefer to spend money on them when I'm there. But I think he didn't fully explain certain things.
If a girl is getting 2000k USD a month, initially she isn't going to fuck that up by running to D'latins. She is going to stay out of Sosua to keep from getting exposed, but she will be fucking a Dominican guy on the down low who understands her situation. After time if the guy balks at sending the regular 2000, then the girl might say"fuck it" and tap out. I've known guys who send 1000k a month and eventually the fee escalates. I knew a girl who fell for a German guy and he purchased a house in Casa Linda and they had a child. After 2 years she was in El Flow not giving a fuck about him. My point is, even if you hook one of these Dominicanas up eventually their mindset isn't to realize how good they have have it, they are prone to fuck it up.I agree with all points, but I have seen some dimes in the barrio I hang in and they have a novio out of the country and they do not cheat. I am sure of it I ask my girl and she says's no way and the barrio knows everything about you. Now will they change in the future, maybe. But, not all good girls cheat. Now let's be clear I am talking about good girls not puta's. Anyone, can pretend to be a boss around putas and brag they see her pick up wu payments, but is cubadave pulling a non pro dime on Venezuela "not happening". Stay in sosua. To many reports, i have read of people coming on venezuela and seeing girls in groups who are dimes hoping they will look them in the eye and all they can do is sit on the sidelines because no game or language skills. i love SD it seperates the men from the boys. i am telling you now i am not getting off a plane and my options are streetwalklers or a casa. Non pro dimes all over santo domingo.
Comparing a city in the DR to a place like MDE is like comparing third world to second world.I prefer the DR for mongering / sex tourism because it is like the "Wild West" of sex. However, I tend to prefer Colombia for most everything else. For me, an ideal situation would be a way to work both locations into a rotation. Right now, I think Colombia or Panama would be the primary base. However, I know expats who live in the DR and enjoy it so I would have to experience it before writing it off as a home base.
Charles Pooter
02-19-14, 13:46
Comparing a city in the DR to a place like MDE is like comparing third world to second world."First" and "Third" do not refer to level of economic development. They were political terms."First World" was the capitalist West,"Second World" was the communist bloc, and "Third World" comprised all the remaining countries, some of them (like Argentina at that time) richer than some First World countries and many of them richer than some communist countries.
Are you suggesting Colombia is like an old Soviet country?
Manizales911
02-19-14, 17:02
"First" and "Third" do not refer to level of economic development.Technically you are correct but that is not how most people use the terms "first world" and "third world". Most people use the expressions to in fact refer to level of economic development.
Technically you are correct but that is not how most people use the terms "first world" and "third world". Most people use the expressions to in fact refer to level of economic development.I have not been to Colombia, but it seems to me that in the discussion below it is argued that Colombia is effectively similar to a modern industrialized nation, whereas the DR is not.
Having lived for more than 2 years in the DR, I would say that it is similar to Britain in the 1950's an era of post-war austerity, only with the additional pluses of modern drugs and diagnostic testing, color cable TV, Internet, supermarkets, ATMs, credit cards, air conditioned offices, etc. For those who can afford them.
1950's Britain had universally drinkable water piped into homes, and a more-or-less uninterruptible centrally generated electrical supply to homes and businesses, and an efficient sewage disposal system, which the DR lacks, but it did not have freeways (motorways, interstate highways, or autobahns) or ring roads (called beltways in the US) around cities, which is how it is in the DR today, and individual vehicle ownership was at a much lower level than now.
In the DR you will still see many twin-tub electric washing machines, where you fill the machine with water with a hose or bucket and wash the clothes on one side and then lift them by hand into the spinner on the other side. These are almost unknown now in the more developed economies.
In the DR unskilled labor is still extremely cheap, which means that many things are still done by hand that might be done by machines in more developed economies, and people will usually have furniture and curtains custom-made instead of buying it from a showroom store like Rooms To Go, making it a good place to live if you are well-off, but not so good if you are a manual laborer.
"First" and "Third" do not refer to level of economic development. They were political terms."First World" was the capitalist West,"Second World" was the communist bloc, and "Third World" comprised all the remaining countries, some of them (like Argentina at that time) richer than some First World countries and many of them richer than some communist countries.
Are you suggesting Colombia is like an old Soviet country?That's interesting. I didn't know that.
No, I was using the terms "first" world and such with the more layman's use of the term, which is as a broad indicator of economic and civic development.
Manizales911
02-19-14, 21:36
[QUOTE=Frannie; 1534162]I have not been to Colombia, but it seems to me that in the discussion below it is argued that Colombia is effectively similar to a modern industrialized nation, whereas the DR is not.
/QUOTE]I would rate Colombia a big step ahead of the DR for sure but by no means would I say that it is on par with a modern industrialized nation, no way. There are sections of the three major cities, especially parts of Medellin that would give one that impression but all you have to do is take a ten minute ride outside of the most modern sections and you are back to reality. That said, Colombia's economy, safety, infrastructure and general outlook has and continues to improve significantly but make no mistake, it ain't Kansas Dorothy. I have traveled extensively in both countries and chose Colombia as my future home and am close to closing on the purchase of a finca in the el cafetero region in the coming weeks. Once I am settled and have things set up I will welcome any senior member on this site to visit, you won't want to return to the USA, that is for certain.
Tempoecorto
02-20-14, 01:27
That's interesting. I didn't know that.People who are not aware of the term "second world", or the definitions of the three worlds as explained by Charles Pooter, are typically born after the Berlin wall came down!
I would rate Colombia a big step ahead of the DR for sure but by no means would I say that it is on par with a modern industrialized nation, no way.It doesn't have to be, but the fact that it is a big step ahead of the DR is what matters since that is what is being compared. For instance, in Medellin and other Colombian cities I can use software on my phone to get and track a cab, use a bike share program like I'm in NYC or DC, and use a pretty good public transportation system. I suspect if you went on Airbnb, you would see a pretty big difference between Medellin and SDQ. In fact, MDE is often listed as one of the top places in the world for retirement. http://money.usnews.com/money/blogs/on-retirement/2013/04/01/why-medellin-colombia-is-a-great-retirement-spot
Some also consider Colombianas very attractive: http://www.therichest.com/expensive-lifestyle/location/the-worlds-10-sexiest-nationalities/
Charles Pooter
02-20-14, 15:21
Some also consider Colombianas very attractive: http://www.therichest.com/expensive-lifestyle/location/the-worlds-10-sexiest-nationalities/
This is an extremely well-researched and accurate listing. I know that because of how they describe British men (though I think they really mean English men) :
Well-mannered regal men. A combination of the accent, well dressed attire and even a bad boy side to get cockney and rowdy is something women will always find sexy.
Mr Enternational
02-20-14, 16:17
Some also consider Colombianas very attractive: http://www.therichest.com/expensive-lifestyle/location/the-worlds-10-sexiest-nationalities/I wonder how those same countries would have scored if they had stood at the grocery store and just chose the 3rd person who walked in to be the examples, instead of hand-picked models to represent.
Parkinsons
02-20-14, 16:51
Comparing a city in the DR to a place like MDE is like comparing third world to second world. Unless you are a complete horndog, I suspect that most people would consider things like clean water, higher quality meat and produce, and better infrastructure to be somewhat important. Yes punting in MDE is more expensive, but only a little.Will I ever be able to make a sensible statement on how I prefer to use my Honda Accord over my BMW X5 for daily commute (less gas, lower maintenance, etc) without someone getting all upset and offended: "hey, comparing a Honda to a BMW Is like comparing the shit hole DR to the glorious country of Colombia"? Shit is getting tiresome.
It is all about what you like. I prefer the afro-latin look I women. The DR is a dream come true for women not to mention the music. So while MDE has some great attributes I love what the DR offers. For some guys it is no contest but I love black women and that trumps all the other stuff.
Will I ever be able to make a sensible statement on how I prefer to use my Honda Accord over my BMW X5 for daily commute (less gas, lower maintenance, etc) without someone getting all upset and offended: "hey, comparing a Honda to a BMW Is like comparing the shit hole DR to the glorious country of Colombia"? Shit is getting tiresome.
Mr Enternational
02-21-14, 06:19
It is all about what you like. I prefer the afro-latin look I women. The DR is a dream come true for women not to mention the music. So while MDE has some great attributes I love what the DR offers. For some guys it is no contest but I love black women and that trumps all the other stuff.You should go to Colombia before making a statement about it. It is full of Afro-Latin people. The majority of Cartagena is Afro-Colombian. It is like the Atlanta of Colombia.
You should go to Colombia before making a statement about it. It is full of Afro-Latin people. The majority of Cartagena is Afro-Colombian. It is like the Atlanta of Colombia.It sounds like a visit is in order!
I have to salute the "King of mongering", Angeles city. It reminded me of the old Sosua, minus the beach. Sport fucking isn't a concept that has reached AC yet. Every girl I've had this virgin trip has been GFE plus. In fact the hardest part about AC is to not get hooked on the sweetness. I'm not going to lie, on more than one instance I have been looking at my sleeping beauty thinking" If it wasnt so far away, then I would move here for her LOL". Unless your heart is cold, the girls of AC will find a way in.
Now with that said lets go over the ass issue. My Dominicanas were on my mind because of the thickness and developement of their bodies. I've never been a "big ass" dude though, I like the model type that's not too skinny. But the filippinas make up for it in sweetness. Never had a money negotiating problem, most stayed till the late morning, and they followed through with basic texting saying" how is your day going? What are you doing? Etc". They weren't going to let you forget them.
Thailand had better food and a bigger "Walking street" plus a beach, but I like the filippinas better. Hotels were nice for about 44usd with breakfast. The mall, walking street, hotels, jeepney stands, and side spots are all within 15 minutes of walking. You don't need a car. Day activities are limited but if you don't stay too long you will be okay.
Street vendors hawk everything but not with the silliness like in the DR. Just say no and keep moving. No making eye contact and heading to the cabana like in the DR, you have to approach them most of the time. I've noticed late at night (after 2am) some bar girls are working the streets and being a little aggressive.
The exchange rate is 44 to 1. Bar fines range from 1500p-2000p. No girl has asked for anything after the barfine. The girls make 200p-600p a week for showing up at the bar. The girls get 600p-900p of the bar fine. The girls can be had at the discos and on the street for 1000p late at night.
Walking street has over 200 spots with from 10-30 girl each. It has Restaurants, money exchanges, street food vendors, whatever you want. Maybe its best that its halfway around the world, maybe that has helped preserve it. I'm sure if it was on our side it would be sportfucking, all business, with a rare GFE moment. So guys if you want one of the few GFE spots left, AC is the place.
Camaro1257
02-21-14, 19:55
It is all about what you like. I prefer the afro-latin look I women. The DR is a dream come true for women not to mention the music. So while MDE has some great attributes I love what the DR offers. For some guys it is no contest but I love black women and that trumps all the other stuff.I did a Cali trip last year and found the city to be approximately 30% Afro Colombian. In addition Caratgena was the primary port of the slave trade in Colombia therefore there are more than a few Afro Colombianas there. In my experience Colombia is rich with people of color.
"Consider Cali & Cartagena" - been to both and beyond. Good to hear from someone else that has actually traveled father than the Caribbean LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlYNJpbNYdM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZGJ9DZCDDA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUIx-hGl-Ks
And the West / Pacific Coast is much more Afro-Colombian than either Cartagena or Cali.
It sounds like a visit is in order!OWWWEEE I wanta go!
SavePros321
02-22-14, 01:31
I have to salute the "King of mongering", Angeles city. It reminded me of the old Sosua, minus the beach. Sport fucking isn't a concept that has reached AC yet. Every girl I've had this virgin trip has been GFE plus. In fact the hardest part about AC is to not get hooked on the sweetness. I'm not going to lie, on more than one instance I have been looking at my sleeping beauty thinking" If it wasnt so far away, then I would move here for her LOL". Unless your heart is cold, the girls of AC will find a way in.
Now with that said lets go over the ass issue. My Dominicanas were on my mind because of the thickness and developement of their bodies. I've never been a "big ass" dude though, I like the model type that's not too skinny. But the filippinas make up for it in sweetness. Never had a money negotiating problem, most stayed till the late morning, and they followed through with basic texting saying" how is your day going? What are you doing? Etc". They weren't going to let you forget them.
Thailand had better food and a bigger "Walking street" plus a beach, but I like the filippinas better. Hotels were nice for about 44usd with breakfast. The mall, walking street, hotels, jeepney stands, and side spots are all within 15 minutes of walking. You don't need a car. Day activities are limited but if you don't stay too long you will be okay.
Street vendors hawk everything but not with the silliness like in the DR. Just say no and keep moving. No making eye contact and heading to the cabana like in the DR, you have to approach them most of the time. I've noticed late at night (after 2am) some bar girls are working the streets and being a little aggressive.
The exchange rate is 44 to 1. Bar fines range from 1500p-2000p. No girl has asked for anything after the barfine. The girls make 200p-600p a week for showing up at the bar. The girls get 600p-900p of the bar fine. The girls can be had at the discos and on the street for 1000p late at night.
Walking street has over 200 spots with from 10-30 girl each. It has Restaurants, money exchanges, street food vendors, whatever you want. Maybe its best that its halfway around the world, maybe that has helped preserve it. I'm sure if it was on our side it would be sportfucking, all business, with a rare GFE moment. So guys if you want one of the few GFE spots left, AC is the place.Thanks for the Angels City report bro!
I have to salute the "King of mongering", Angeles city. It reminded me of the old Sosua, minus the beach. Sport fucking isn't a concept that has reached AC yet. Every girl I've had this virgin trip has been GFE plus. In fact the hardest part about AC is to not get hooked on the sweetness. I'm not going to lie, on more than one instance I have been looking at my sleeping beauty thinking" If it wasnt so far away, then I would move here for her LOL". Unless your heart is cold, the girls of AC will find a way in.How long did it take you to get there from the east coast
ConquerorVal
02-22-14, 16:53
In fact the hardest part about AC is to not get hooked on the sweetness. I'm not going to lie, on more than one instance I have been looking at my sleeping beauty thinking" If it wasnt so far away, then I would move here for her LOL". Unless your heart is cold, the girls of AC will find a way in.…. most stayed till the late morning, and they followed through with basic texting saying" how is your day going? What are you doing? Etc". They weren't going to let you forget them. So guys if you want one of the few GFE spots left, AC is the place.Interesting report. I like your personal or more emotional / sensitive take on it. Never been to AC, but I think without wanting to assume too much, being more like you, I would find this place difficult, as I would definitely get attached. For us GFE could be dangerous, especially if you are in a committed relationship or live far away. I think if I know what is good for me, I will stick to Pattaya and Sosua. No danger of sweetness there-for me anyway.
SavePros321
02-22-14, 17:06
For us GFE could be dangerous, especially if you are in a committed relationship or live far away.I agree, LOL! GFE can definitely be dangerous, especially if it is some very good GFE :D
SavePros321
02-22-14, 20:20
i posted this article in the "american women" opinions thread. i thought it was a very interesting take on the way shit has turned out for us men here in sex prison (usa).
numbers 3, 8, and 9 stood out the most to me:
3) degradation of positive masculine role models
whereas 50 years ago, advertising, hollywood and television was filled with examples of positive masculine role models that young men could look up to, today's entertainment industry routinely portrays men as clueless and bumbling oafs at best (think homer simpson, everybody loves raymond, married with children) or at worst as aggressive sexual predators. since advertising is primarily aimed at women, men in commercials are also now routinely depicted as either being emasculated losers or stupefied morons. young men consuming this content grow up thinking that it is acceptable and even encouraged to aspire to these character traits. in doing so, they are robbed of their natural masculinity and find it extremely difficult to attract well-rounded women, who are rightly disgusted by such behavior. the entertainment industry is largely controlled by men, again underscoring the fact that this assault is a top down trend that has little or nothing to do with the gender war.
8) the legal system discriminates against men
in both divorce and child custody proceedings, it is widely acknowledged that courts heavily favor women and discriminate against men. men are routinely hit with onerous alimony payments even if women are capable of working and earning a good paycheck. men only receive custody of their children in around 10 per cent of divorce cases in the united states. the ironic thing about this system is that it has primarily been instituted by other men, emphasizing again how the war on men is being waged not by women, but by the primarily male-dominated establishment itself.
9) masculinity as a dirty word
dissident feminist camille paglia recently wrote a wall street journal piece in which she warned, 'what you're seeing is how a civilization commits suicide. ' paglia was referring to how the emancipation of masculine virtues by the establishment threatens to create massive destabilization in society due to less and less men being able to fill traditionally 'masculine' roles in the jobs market. paglia points to schools cutting recess, the effort to deny the biological distinctions between men and women, and the left's characterization of controversial opinions as 'hate speech' as examples of how masculinity is being deliberately eroded. 'masculinity is just becoming something that is imitated from the movies. there's nothing left. there's no room for anything manly right now, ' warns paglia, adding that young men have, 'no models of manhood. '
full article here:
http://www.infowars.com/the-war-on-men-10-ways-masculinity-is-under-attack/
And the West / Pacific Coast is much more Afro-Colombian than either Cartagena or Cali.This for them knuckleheadz talking about ain't no chocolate in Colombia in 2014, LOL.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdDTHOgl0VY
AlwaysHorny 2
03-01-14, 13:10
Gogo,
It's been awhile since I posted. Hard to deal with the DR withdrawals. I'm currently in Kenya visiting Nairobi and Mombasa. It's some quality chics here but they will try to lock your ass down. I only been in Nairobi for one night, but things are already quite interesting.
Of course, I will share my experience with the forum and include pics.
SavePros321
03-21-14, 17:17
By Rob Quinn, Newser Staff.
Posted Mar 21, 2014 4:18 AM CDT.
(NEWSER) – Cops in Hawaii are fighting to keep what they describe as an important legal protection: Permission to have sex with prostitutes. A state bill cracking down on prostitution originally scrapped an exemption allowing undercover officers to have sex with prostitutes, but it was controversially restored after police testimony, the AP finds. Police won't say how often the exemption is used, but critics argue that it leaves the system wide open to abuse, noting that there have been many cases nationwide of police officers extorting sex from prostitutes.
The chief of Honolulu's vice squad argued the exemption is necessary because prostitutes and pimps are otherwise "going to know exactly how far the undercover officer can and cannot go." A former FBI agent who trained vice squads around the country for 20 years, however, says he doesn't know of any other state or federal law that allows undercover officers to do what the Hawaii law allows."Isn't one of the biggest questions here just why, exactly, Hawaii needs a exemption like this for their sex sting operations and none of the other law enforcement agencies in other states need one?" asks Rebecca Rose at Jezebel."They seem to be able to bust prostitutes and pimps in other states just fine without allowing their officers to engage in sexual acts."
http://www.newser.com/story/184122/h.campaign=story
I have to salute the "King of mongering", Angeles city. It reminded me of the old Sosua, minus the beach. Sport fucking isn't a concept that has reached AC yet. Every girl I've had this virgin trip has been GFE plus. In fact the hardest part about AC is to not get hooked on the sweetness. I'm not going to lie, on more than one instance I have been looking at my sleeping beauty thinking" If it wasnt so far away, then I would move here for her LOL". Unless your heart is cold, the girls of AC will find a way in.
Now with that said lets go over the ass issue. My Dominicanas were on my mind because of the thickness and developement of their bodies. I've never been a "big ass" dude though, I like the model type that's not too skinny. But the filippinas make up for it in sweetness. Never had a money negotiating problem, most stayed till the late morning, and they followed through with basic texting saying" how is your day going? What are you doing? Etc". They weren't going to let you forget them.
Thailand had better food and a bigger "Walking street" plus a beach, but I like the filippinas better. Hotels were nice for about 44usd with breakfast. The mall, walking street, hotels, jeepney stands, and side spots are all within 15 minutes of walking. You don't need a car. Day activities are limited but if you don't stay too long you will be okay.
Street vendors hawk everything but not with the silliness like in the DR. Just say no and keep moving. No making eye contact and heading to the cabana like in the DR, you have to approach them most of the time. I've noticed late at night (after 2am) some bar girls are working the streets and being a little aggressive.
The exchange rate is 44 to 1. Bar fines range from 1500p-2000p. No girl has asked for anything after the barfine. The girls make 200p-600p a week for showing up at the bar. The girls get 600p-900p of the bar fine. The girls can be had at the discos and on the street for 1000p late at night.
Walking street has over 200 spots with from 10-30 girl each. It has Restaurants, money exchanges, street food vendors, whatever you want. Maybe its best that its halfway around the world, maybe that has helped preserve it. I'm sure if it was on our side it would be sportfucking, all business, with a rare GFE moment. So guys if you want one of the few GFE spots left, AC is the place.I enjoyed all you shared. I was supposed to go to Pattaya this June with a vet. But that has changed. But this fall still looks good. I will be free to roam the earth.
SavePros321
04-21-14, 14:28
In Puerto Rico. 45 percent of the population lives in poverty, and the unemployment rate is a solid 15 percent.
Those numbers aren't a good sign for any area of the United States, least of all an island whose name translates to 'Rich Port. ' But after years of recession, Puerto Rico's debt crisis finally seems to have reached a day of reckoning.
Officials have opened a public campaign to field ideas for how to fix the crisis once and for all.
A government website is accepting suggestions, and close to 400 ideas have been submitted. At least 150 have been accepted by a government committee for consideration. Among the ideas to be considered are calls legalize marijuana and prostitution, and to drastically cut back the amount of public holidays that workers on the island celebrate.
These dramatic solutions would require public hearing, legislative approval, and Gov. Alejandro Garcia Padilla's signature, according to the Associated Press report. The chances for marijuana or prostitution becoming legal are unclear, at best. Over seven-in-ten Puerto Ricans oppose legalizing pot, according to a poll conducted last November by the island's largest newspaper, El Nuevo Dia.
More: http://fusion.net/leadership/story/puerto-rico-legalizing-prostitution-marijuana-fix-debt-crisis-586448
In Puerto Rico. 45 percent of the population lives in poverty, and the unemployment rate is a solid 15 percent.
A government website is accepting suggestions, and close to 400 ideas have been submitted. At least 150 have been accepted by a government committee for consideration. Among the ideas to be considered are calls legalize marijuana and prostitution, and to drastically cut back the amount of public holidays that workers on the island celebrate.
More: http://fusion.net/leadership/story/puerto-rico-legalizing-prostitution-marijuana-fix-debt-crisis-586448Legalizing prostitution would enhance the economy a lot. More tourism. Lower health care costs because of surveillence health care and education of prostitutes. You free up police officers from having to investigate it. You can also tax prostitution.
The only downside is of course your reputation. Anywhere prostitution is legal, that place becomes known FOR prostitution. I think that even Germany is second guessing their decision.
Its going on anyway. Might as well make it safer and have the government take their cut.
Legalizing prostitution makes it an input in GDP and hence lowers the debt ratios for bonds ratings.
here is today's article just to prove the point:
(btw i hope the recent cowardly proposed canadian legislation will not pass the charter of rights and freedoms).
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/09/spain-prostitution-gdp-estimate
spain tries to calculate sex workers' contribution to gdp.
officials from spain's national statistics institute have asked brothel-keepers' organisation for estimate of total earnings.
officials from spain's national statistics institute (ine) have been calling on the national brothel-keepers' organisation in an effort to assess the contribution that prostitution makes to gdp.
the almost impossible task of calculating the money generated by the oldest profession is being undertaken to conform with a european edict demanding that member states declare the percentage of gdp derived from illegal activities such as the sex trade, drug and people trafficking and contraband. countries have until 2016 to comply.
adding up the contributions made by illegal activities could have benefits – increasing gdp has the effect of reducing the public deficit as a ratio of output, so sex workers and drug dealers may help member states to drop below the eu debt ceiling of 3% of output.
josé roca, a spokesman for anela, the association of clubs de alterne (alternate clubs), as brothels are euphemistically known in spain, told el país newspaper that he thought it was a prank when the ine phoned asking for financial data.
the statisticians wanted to know how many prostitutes were needed for a club to be viable. the answer, according to roca, is 50. they also wanted to know the average charge per service (€40-€70) and how many clients each sex worker saw each day (four to eight).
the office for national statistics estimated last month that the contribution made to national output by sex workers and the illegal drug trade in the uk was £9. 7 bn, or 0. 7% of gdp, in 2009, the latest year for which estimates are available. sex work generated £5. 3 bn for the economy that year, with the remaining £4. 4 bn coming from cannabis, heroin, cocaine, crack, ecstasy and amphetamines.
according to eurostat, illegal activities such as prostitution and drug trafficking, together with accounting changes covering rather less gritty subjects such as pensions – could add about 1% to the gdp of poland and romania, 1%-2% to spain and italy, 3%-4% to the uk and as much as 5% to the gdp of finland and sweden.
inevitably, there are few reliable statistics. most estimates put the number of sex workers in spain at 300,000 – five times as many as are estimated to work in the uk – and, in a 2009 government survey, 39% of spanish men said they had paid for sex.
a police source estimated that, with an average of five clients a day paying about €40 a service, that it worked out at €60 m a day. assuming that the sex workers don't work seven days a week and perhaps only half are working at any one time, it could still add up to about €10 bn a year.
"in reality it's impossible to calculate," roca told the paper. "there is no census of prostitutes, nor clubs, nor the number or cost of services. you might as well pick a number. ".
spain has long been europe's port of entry for cocaine from latin america and hashish from morocco. last year the police confirep001ed 21 tonnes of cocaine, 325 tonnes of hashish and 229 kilos of heroin. as a rule of thumb, police estimate that confirep001ed drugs represent 10%-15% of the total in circulation.
according to spain's interior ministry, drug dealing generates close to €16 m a day, or €5. 7 bn a year. spain's gdp in the first quarter of this year was around €256 bn, so the drug trade could account for about 0. 5% of gdp, and prostitution 1%.
estimated increases.
estimated increase in gdp due to new european union accounting methods, which will include contributions to output generated by drugs, prostitution and other activities from 2016:
0%-1% hungary, latvia, lithuania, poland, romania.
1%-2% czech republic, estonia, ireland, italy, malta, portugal, slovakia, slovenia, spain.
2%-3% belgium, denmark, germany, france.
3%-4% austria, netherlands, uk.
4%-5% finland, sweden.
source: eurostat.
Mr. Gogo,
As a vet of the DR scene, have you heard any back story or gossip about this Blue Oxygen merger? I am just so curious?
Mr. Gogo,
As a vet of the DR scene, have you heard any back story or gossip about this Blue Oxygen merger? I am just so curious?No Manny haven't heard anything, that place is a little outside of my price range.
No Manny haven't heard anything, that place is a little outside of my price range.I think its out of everyone's price range. That's the point.
I am just curious about what led to this business venture, because it doesn't make any sense. I would suggest that the original Oxygen, when it had promotional rates, was a worthwhile occasional splurge. But the new place costs more than double what Oxygen charged. Double! I know that the Oxygen owner was trying to sell a year or two ago. Did some billionaire swoop in with grand dreams? Even the old Vikings place, the original "erotic resort," didn't charge that much, and they had Eastern European women flown in.
SavePros321
06-23-14, 18:50
Check this shit out fellas:
I met a (American Woman) chick via OkCupid over the weekend. The system told me that she "liked" my profile, so I used the instance to hit her up. Long story short it turns out that she works near my job. She stressed (in her profile an on the phone) that she was more interested in meeting folks in person rather than spending a lot of time messaging, so she invited me to lunch. We agreed to meet on Monday (today).
I'm out there in the hot ass sun hoofing blocks to meet her at a halfway point, and we both walk a least 4 more blocks to get to a food court in the tunnels.
After looking around a bit we decide on a Chinese place. When we entered the spot, two red flags immediately went up:
1) She paused to look at the menu prices before we went through the line (cafeteria styled restaurant in where the servers load the food onto your plate based on what you tell them you want). Not too terrible, but it threw me off as you will see in a second.
2) She was in front of me in line, but move behind me and told me I could go first. Didn't think much of it at the time.
So we both order our food and I get to the register first, get my bottled water, and pay for my meal. She comes up next to me with her food and the lady asks her if she wants something to drink with her meal. As I am putting my card in my wallet my lunch date says "oh, I'm paying?" I was like "uh...I didn't know you wanted... " and just let my words trail off without finishing the sentence. I wasn't going to pay for this broad's meal.
I go over and grab a fork and some napkins, then go and stand by a table waiting on her so that we can decide where to sit. She is still at the register. I'm like "damn, what is taking her so long?" I then saw that her plate of food is on the back counter (she told them she changed her mind), and they hand her a small container, and then rung this byatch up for a $1.50 eggroll! I know it was an egg roll because I could see from were I was standing what they rung her up for, and what the price of the item was.
That's not the funniest part!
She then walks towards my direction (with her eggroll in her container, lol), pulls out her phone and says: "I'll be right back, I have to make a phone call. I have to go upstairs (outside) because I don't get any cell phone reception down here (in the tunnels). ".
I was like "oh, ok", but I knew the deal. This broad was looking for a meal ticket. I sat my ass down and immediately began eating because I knew her ass was giving me the slip and was not coming back.
The food tasted like shit. My plate was 12 bucks. Good thing I was smart enough not to have ended up paying $24 bucks for shit food.
Moral of the story: I think we need to do with AW's the same that we do with working girls: get the terms up front. Let's continue to break the stereotype that the man is supposed to pick up the tab, especially for a broad you've only known all of 10 minutes.
If you read my other AW dating story (posted in the Sosua forum) you saw how I ended up paying about $70 for dinner with a chick I met online a few months back. I admit I was a bit rusty at the time because I hadn't dabbled in the AW dating scene in a long while.
To use Mr. Enternational's line he used with a chick from Plenty of Fish (paraphrased): "So I guess the game is to see how much of my money we can spend?
If you are going out to eat with a broad, always find out ahead of time if you are expected to pick up the tab. With "Women's Rights" and all that jazz, these chics are paid just as well as we are. No excuse as to why they can't pay for their own damn meals!
These are half of the finalists for the Miss Haiti 2014 beauty contest. I picked an assortment of women to see what kind of tastes you guys have. Each has beauty in a different kind of way.
Good luck ladies.
Charles Pooter
07-19-14, 15:31
These are half of the finalists for the Miss Haiti 2014 beauty contest. I picked an assortment of women to see what kind of tastes you guys have. Each has beauty in a different kind of way. Good luck ladies.These women are totally unrepresentative of Haitian women. No surprise there. Three years ago the contest was won by an Arab girl.
These women are totally unrepresentative of Haitian women. No surprise there. Three years ago the contest was won by an Arab girl.You just smacked the finalists in the face Sir Charles. I think each one is pretty in her own way. My favorite Haitian in Sosua was Phillipino and Haitian. Light skinned with a banging body and school teacher glasses.
Sometimes we look for that traditional Haitian look but they are very diverse if we open our eyes.
Manizales911
07-19-14, 18:14
These women are totally unrepresentative of Haitian women. No surprise there. Three years ago the contest was won by an Arab girl.I agree, the second one looks 100% gringa. Then again if you look at the finalists of the Dominicans they don't look Dominican either.
Charles Pooter
07-19-14, 20:38
You just smacked the finalists in the face Sir Charles. I think each one is pretty in her own way. My favorite Haitian in Sosua was Phillipino and Haitian. Light skinned with a banging body and school teacher glasses.
Sometimes we look for that traditional Haitian look but they are very diverse if we open our eyes.I made no comment about their attractiveness or otherwise. I merely said that they were totally unrepresentative of Haitian women.
No doubt if you went to Japan you could find a European woman who might be very beautiful and a deserved winner of a beauty contest. She would still be totally unrepresentive of Japanese women. And if the whole line-up consisted of European women, not much point in calling it "Miss Japan".
Normally I would not comment as I think beauty contests are total bullshit, but I find the Haitian and Dominican ones offensive as well as stupid because there are obvious racist implications. Most of us here have met a vast cross-section of Dominican women so we have a good idea what the racial mix is. It is no way represented by line-ups in beauty contests. The fact they always have one "token" black girl makes it even worse.
Of course a small percentage of Haitian women do look like the ones you show. Maybe 5% tops. They should call the winner "Miss Racist Haiti".
I made no comment about their attractiveness or otherwise. I merely said that they were totally unrepresentative of Haitian women.
No doubt if you went to Japan you could find a European woman who might be very beautiful and a deserved winner of a beauty contest. She would still be totally unrepresentive of Japanese women. And if the whole line-up consisted of European women, not much point in calling it "Miss Japan".
Normally I would not comment as I think beauty contests are total bullshit, but I find the Haitian and Dominican ones offensive as well as stupid because there are obvious racist implications. Most of us here have met a vast cross-section of Dominican women so we have a good idea what the racial mix is. It is no way represented by line-ups in beauty contests. The fact they always have one "token" black girl makes it even worse.
Of course a small percentage of Haitian women do look like the ones you show. Maybe 5% tops. They should call the winner "Miss Racist Haiti".Wow Sir Charles,
Sounds like you want some barefoot girls from the countryside to be the only participants in the beauty contest. Sorry you find it racist in its current form.
It's funny that you are offended by beauty contests in the DR, when I have seen you many times at FOD when they have a beauty contest. Maybe you were forced to be there with your face buried in their asses. Shame on FOD for making you suffer through that.
I made no comment about their attractiveness or otherwise. I merely said that they were totally unrepresentative of Haitian women.
No doubt if you went to Japan you could find a European woman who might be very beautiful and a deserved winner of a beauty contest. She would still be totally unrepresentive of Japanese women. And if the whole line-up consisted of European women, not much point in calling it "Miss Japan".
Normally I would not comment as I think beauty contests are total bullshit, but I find the Haitian and Dominican ones offensive as well as stupid because there are obvious racist implications. Most of us here have met a vast cross-section of Dominican women so we have a good idea what the racial mix is. It is no way represented by line-ups in beauty contests. The fact they always have one "token" black girl makes it even worse.
Of course a small percentage of Haitian women do look like the ones you show. Maybe 5% tops. They should call the winner "Miss Racist Haiti".I confess my experience with Haitians is limited. The one I had contact with was very dark, actually black rather than brown.
But are the dark girls shown also not representative? If so, why? Is the medium brown skin tone versus the dark / black tone I mentioned?
I attribute any light-skinned women to membership in the wealthy elite class. I'd say that is also the case in the DR.
Of course the beauty pageant contestants are not representative of the general population. What beauty pageant features average looking women?
I made no comment about their attractiveness or otherwise. I merely said that they were totally unrepresentative of Haitian women.
No doubt if you went to Japan you could find a European woman who might be very beautiful and a deserved winner of a beauty contest. She would still be totally unrepresentive of Japanese women. And if the whole line-up consisted of European women, not much point in calling it "Miss Japan".
Normally I would not comment as I think beauty contests are total bullshit, but I find the Haitian and Dominican ones offensive as well as stupid because there are obvious racist implications. Most of us here have met a vast cross-section of Dominican women so we have a good idea what the racial mix is. It is no way represented by line-ups in beauty contests. The fact they always have one "token" black girl makes it even worse.
Of course a small percentage of Haitian women do look like the ones you show. Maybe 5% tops. They should call the winner "Miss Racist Haiti".
These are half of the finalists for the Miss Haiti 2014 beauty contest. I picked an assortment of women to see what kind of tastes you guys have. Each has beauty in a different kind of way. Good luck ladies.I have lived among Haitians for many years. I would never have guessed in a lifetime this was an assortment of Haitian girls.
This is definitely not a pick of your average Haitian girls.
RocheBrazi
07-21-14, 01:38
If this is a assortment of haitian women it could as well be a assortment of congolese women.
My DR novia avoides the sun like Dracula because she want not look like a Haitiana. And this Chicas are lighter skinned than my DR Novia. I know education in the DR is bad but not that bad that my Novia would not know about the skin color of a Haitiana: p.
Also the haitian chicas i know are all black
This fotos might be legit in 14 years when the illegitimate kids from haitianas they got from UN workers in PaP are old enough to sell Pussy.
I purposely showed the final contestants of the 2014 Miss Haiti beauty contest that had an exotic look to see the reaction it would get. Now you we see below the rest of the contestants that have a more traditional Haitian flavor.
Real life is that racism influences beauty standards. The vast majority of Haitian women look a certain way. The ladies in the contest are clearly not the norm. How this makes the average Haitian girls feel about herself is beyond the scope of this forum. I will say this in my experience the Haitian girls have been awesome in bed and easy to deal with. Old and still kool OUT.
If this is a assortment of haitian women it could as well be a assortment of congolese women.
My DR novia avoides the sun like Dracula because she want not look like a Haitiana. And this Chicas are lighter skinned than my DR Novia. I know education in the DR is bad but not that bad that my Novia would not know about the skin color of a Haitiana: p.
Also the haitian chicas i know are all black
This fotos might be legit in 14 years when the illegitimate kids from haitianas they got from UN workers in PaP are old enough to sell Pussy.
FruitNinja
07-21-14, 17:17
If you are going out to eat with a broad, always find out ahead of time if you are expected to pick up the tab. With "Women's Rights" and all that jazz, these chics are paid just as well as we are. No excuse as to why they can't pay for their own damn meals!LOL! I keep an active account on one of the dating sites on the slight chance I will hit gold or find the woman of my dreams. Or at least someone hat I get along with and is maybe a little more age appropriate. My experience is that most are damaged goods. I met one a few years ago that had nothing but a head shot. Said she was athletic built. Well she was if you like shot putters! WTF! And yes they all expect you to pay. I had one that I was serious about because she knew family and friends and was very attractive for a woman that had kids. We went out about seven times and she never reached for the check. She was in an accident and I was able to help her get the car fixed at a friends garage at minimal cost. I spent a winter Saturday morning helping her get a rental and dropping the car off. We stop for lunch and you would think this would be the time she would reach for the check. I mean I just spent a morning helping her, got her a great deal on the repair. NOPE! That was the last time I saw her.
I could go on and on about horror stories. I'll pay for it.
I purposely showed the final contestants of the 2014 Miss Haiti beauty contest that had an exotic look to see the reaction it would get. Now you we see below the rest of the contestants that have a more traditional Haitian flavor.Showing the other contestants just makes it more interesting / controversial. It shows how the light-skinned women overwhelmingly beat out those with darker complexions.
I purposely showed the final contestants of the 2014 Miss Haiti beauty contest that had an exotic look to see the reaction it would get. Now you we see below the rest of the contestants that have a more traditional Haitian flavor.I found only 3 of the first batch attractive but 4 of the last 5 attractive. I am biased toward blackness.
I found only 3 of the first batch attractive but 4 of the last 5 attractive. I am biased toward blackness.I'm with you on that brother, something about a chocolate girl that drives mr crazy and if she has a hairy Bush, then I'm in love.
One of the prettiest black girls I've ever seen was with Charles Pooter. Jaos was showing me pictures and he pulled out this beautiful photograph and I asked "who is that?" He said Pooters girl and I rolled my eyes in disbelief.
SavePros321
07-22-14, 13:33
These are half of the finalists for the Miss Haiti 2014 beauty contest. I picked an assortment of women to see what kind of tastes you guys have. Each has beauty in a different kind of way. Good luck ladies.Nice find and good post bro! They all look great.
I purposely showed the final contestants of the 2014 Miss Haiti beauty contest that had an exotic look to see the reaction it would get. Now you we see below the rest of the contestants that have a more traditional Haitian flavor.DAMN none of them motivates my chocolate fetish. I need to see some asses.
Real life is that racism influences beauty standards. The vast majority of Haitian women look a certain way. The ladies in the contest are clearly not the norm. How this makes the average Haitian girls feel about herself is beyond the scope of this forum. I will say this in my experience the Haitian girls have been awesome in bed and easy to deal with. Old and still kool OUT.True for the most part.
With the possible exception of Brazil, most of Latin America prefers lighter-skinned, taller women.
Dark skin and short stature are more associated with the black / former slave or indigenous / Indian /"Indio" communities.
The Colombian region of Choco is predominantly black, and a woman from that region is a news anchor on Univision, but it would be very surprising to see the candidate from Choco selected as Miss Colombia.
Even in the DR, a chica I knew who would be identified in the US as "black" (she was actually a milk chocolate brown) called herself "morena" rather than "negra" as that term was considered more appropriate for Haitianas.
That said, my novia is "morena" and her body and skin turn me on big-time.
All the darker Haitianas I saw in the pics were very attractive.
Wilfred is now looking for investors to start a second hotel. Casa Cayena has been a success.
From another source:
Not so crazy, stupid or ignorant as you might think.
They had planned to offer a cruise with port of call in Maimon, which will include shore excursions for the day or two (overnight stay of ship at port) and (catch this!) extended inland excursions in the country of several days with an option to return on either a scheduled ship for the port or air travel to their final destination.
Unlike stated in the article, passengers opting for that option must do so even before boarding the ship. They must arrange such things with the cruise sales agent.
This will be a depart from inland extended excursions that had either to be carried out prior to boarding the cruise ship or at the end of it, without an option to re-embark to another ship for return.
That's why this port complex is so ground breaking for the cruise line biz.
In order to circumvent policies in the USA That demand cruise passengers embark / return on the same port / ship as they took. The cruises aiming to offer such options will make use of Puerto Rico's own cruise policies. They do allow cruise ships to embark passengers in one port and end their trip at another port if elected.
The DR was selected to introduce this new format of cruise offerings, due to the diversity of options for travelers to select from. From staying a week in Ciudad Colonial and touring the oldest city in the new world, to river rafting, white sandy beaches in Punta Cana, etc.
In order to make this happen, the new four lane road from the new CN in Santiago to Puerto Plata will be taking shape.
A clean-up of Sosua / Puerto Plata is concurrent and undergoing.
As stated "passengers" travel plans for this must be done prior to embarking on the cruise. It will not be selective after the cruise ship departs on the trip and beyond. Unless the passenger decides to terminate their trip and catch the flight home of option, there will not be a catch the next ship on port to go home as described in the article.
From another source:
Not so crazy, stupid or ignorant as you might think.
They had planned to offer a cruise with port of call in Maimon, which will include shore excursions for the day or two (overnight stay of ship at port) and (catch this!) extended inland excursions in the country of several days with an option to return on either a scheduled ship for the port or air travel to their final destination.
Unlike stated in the article, passengers opting for that option must do so even before boarding the ship. They must arrange such things with the cruise sales agent.
This will be a depart from inland extended excursions that had either to be carried out prior to boarding the cruise ship or at the end of it, without an option to re-embark to another ship for return.
That's why this port complex is so ground breaking for the cruise line biz.
In order to circumvent policies in the USA That demand cruise passengers embark / return on the same port / ship as they took. The cruises aiming to offer such options will make use of Puerto Rico's own cruise policies. They do allow cruise ships to embark passengers in one port and end their trip at another port if elected.
The DR was selected to introduce this new format of cruise offerings, due to the diversity of options for travelers to select from. From staying a week in Ciudad Colonial and touring the oldest city in the new world, to river rafting, white sandy beaches in Punta Cana, etc.
In order to make this happen, the new four lane road from the new CN in Santiago to Puerto Plata will be taking shape.
A clean-up of Sosua / Puerto Plata is concurrent and undergoing.
As stated "passengers" travel plans for this must be done prior to embarking on the cruise. It will not be selective after the cruise ship departs on the trip and beyond. Unless the passenger decides to terminate their trip and catch the flight home of option, there will not be a catch the next ship on port to go home as described in the article.Sounds like a great idea. A much better look at a country than the artificial day tours many do now.
Also sounds good for the people of the DR; a chance to improve local economy, jobs, etc.
Is there a URL for the article this is based on?
Sounds like a great idea. A much better look at a country than the artificial day tours many do now.
Also sounds good for the people of the DR; a chance to improve local economy, jobs, etc.
Is there a URL for the article this is based on?Yes. Pm me because I don't know if acceptable here to post that link.
Puerto Plata, Dominican Republic. - United States Ambassador James W. Brewster on Tuesday said the city needs the immediate construction of better roads to attract more tourists to the Atlantic Coast, and cautioned on pressing issues which must be addressed.
HE said expanded and improved hotel infrastructure to make Puerto Plata more affordable to tourists is essential for the tourism sector's economic development.
Brewster, the special guest in the American Chamber of Commerce's monthly luncheon attended by officials, business leaders, hoteliers and civil society representatives, spoke on the topic, "How to increase North American tourism in Puerto Plata and the North Coast. ".
HE said HE's convinced that Puerto Plata's residents will do whatever it takes to satisfy the best interests of their visitors, because in this way the region "will resurge to compete with other destinations in the Caribbean area in their desire to continue capturing American tourists. ".
Among the city's major attractions the diplomat listed its historic center, the Malecon, Loma Isabel de Torres and several "beautiful beaches which makes this village the Bride of the Atlantic and we understand why this destination's main asset is its people, an asset that is characterized by its strong regional identity. ".
Brewster said United States investments in the region has been important, citing the construction of a major cruise ship terminal by Carnival Corporation in nearby Maimon, which is expected to handle 250,000 tourists annually, providing a great opportunities for Puerto Plata's economic growth.
Caution.
The US Ambassador cautioned however that there are two key issues which the destination needs to address: visitors safety and protection and care for the environment, which in his view are essential factors to develop the tourism business.
Mr Enternational
10-15-14, 21:02
His ass should have got laughed right up out of there. What's in it for the average Dominican? Not a damn thing. It could only be a situation of the rich getting richer. No worries though because the infrastructure won't be improved anyway.
SavePros321
10-15-14, 23:33
Brewster said United States investments in the region has been important, citing the construction of a major cruise ship terminal by Carnival Corporation in nearby Maimon, which is expected to handle 250,000 tourists annually, providing a great opportunities for Puerto Plata's economic growth.
Caution.
The US Ambassador cautioned however that there are two key issues which the destination needs to address: visitors safety and protection and care for the environment, which in his view are essential factors to develop the tourism business.I think they may need to go back and re-work those numbers to factor in Ebola, LOL. Shit is getting real out here real quickly.
I think they may need to go back and re-work those numbers to factor in Ebola, LOL. Shit is getting real out here real quickly.First they said Ebola was spread by liquids and fluids, but two nurses following protocol got contaminated. Then they started using terms like" no risk" to now saying "low risk". Now a sick nurse was on a plane. The CDC needs to be more proactive and follow through, instead of relying on local agencys.
BTW Cuba sent over 400 doctors to Africa to battle Ebola last week. They are attacking the disease instead of waiting for the disease to attack. That might explain the lowest percentage of HIV in the Caribbean.
BTW Cuba sent over 400 doctors to Africa to battle Ebola last week. They are attacking the disease instead of waiting for the disease to attack. That might explain the lowest percentage of HIV in the Caribbean.Excellent point. A lot of people don't know it, but the Cuban National Medical School / Center is excellent, and trains doctors that go throughout central and south america.
After the Soviet Union fell, Cuba needed to secure a partner that would sell them cheap oil. Do you know what partnership they ended up agreeing on? Cuba training Venezuela's doctors and assisting with their health care.
Excellent point. A lot of people don't know it, but the Cuban National Medical School / Center is excellent, and trains doctors that go throughout central and south america.
After the Soviet Union fell, Cuba needed to secure a partner that would sell them cheap oil. Do you know what partnership they ended up agreeing on? Cuba training Venezuela's doctors and assisting with their health care.Given the infrastructure and lack of supplies that I have witnessed in Cuba, I find it very hard to believe that Cuban National Medical Center is "excellent."
If you gave them a MRI, they would be trying to cook a ham sandwich in that mutha fukka.
-Helpmann
First, my respect goes out to the family of Van, a good man. No one deserves to die this way and I want to say he was well respected, and a lively men, as his friends have stated. He had a great career as an attorney and was respected as this video of him will show;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7psI8NxL6k, you will be missed Sir. I won't play into here the rumors, only the facts. Currently five people are being questioned and a full investigation is taking place.
Being Vans status and respect in the legal community hopefully the normal Dominican justice won't fly and true justice will prevail. Hopefully they won't drag two Haitians out claiming they have the suspects, hopefully we won't have a Dominican shot dead claiming the case is closed, hopefully Vans friends in Washington will demand a competent investigation that will result in real suspects to be held accountable.
My friend Savepros raised a good point about how to handle family and become incorporated into the DR as an asset. Its hard in DR to establish if you are appreciated or only your money is appreciated, you never feel truly accepted. With that said, maybe its best to limit the friends and family and develop a "safety first" approach when dealing with these matters. We are all targets but if you can control the environment and friends you deal with maybe that can re-enforce your safety zone. As visitors we have to have a certain kind of mystic about us where we are not predictable, never let your guard down and always be expecting the unexpected. Being alone can become an asset, don't be scared of it.
SavePros321
11-04-14, 12:35
Currently five people are being questioned and a full investigation is taking place.
Being Vans status and respect in the legal community hopefully the normal Dominican justice won't fly and true justice will prevail. Hopefully they won't drag two Haitians out claiming they have the suspects, hopefully we won't have a Dominican shot dead claiming the case is closed, hopefully Vans friends in Washington will demand a competent investigation that will result in real suspects to be held accountable.
I wasn't even aware that is how the Dominicans solve cases. That's even more fucked up if they resort to using those tactics.
...Being Vans status and respect in the legal community hopefully the normal Dominican justice won't fly and true justice will prevail. Hopefully they won't drag two Haitians out claiming they have the suspects, hopefully we won't have a Dominican shot dead claiming the case is closed, hopefully Vans friends in Washington will demand a competent investigation that will result in real suspects to be held accountable...We all know that the Dominican Republic is the mutha' fuckin' Wild West, loaded with prostitutes and crooked cops. We also should know that every time we decide to "leave the resort" in search of pussy, that we put ourselves at risk (robbery, assault, HIV, jail, extortion, murder).
Those that choose to "leave the resort" in search of dick, put themselves at much greater risk. Van Teasley appears to have put himself in that category. Personally, I choose to avoid any dealings with Dominican men, especially, scouts, pimps, drivers, and tigueres. Nevertheless, those foreigners who choose to actively search for men and/or boys in the Dominican Republic for the purposes of sex will find themselves a statistic (robbery, assault, HIV, jail, extortion, murder).
It's just a matter of time.
-Helpmann
SavePros321
11-04-14, 15:14
Those that choose to "leave the resort" in search of dick, put themselves at much greater risk. Van Teasley appears to have put himself in that category. Personally, I choose to avoid any dealings with Dominican men, especially, scouts, pimps, drivers, and tigueres. Nevertheless, those foreigners who choose to actively search for men and/or boys in the Dominican Republic for the purposes of sex will find themselves a statistic (robbery, assault, HIV, jail, extortion, murder).
It's just a matter of time.
-HelpmannDamn, another new angle! I didn't know this guy was in the DR playing catch and pitch! It's still fucked up that he was murdered though, but I didn't read anything stating that he was a m a r i c ó n.
We all know that the Dominican Republic is the mutha' fuckin' Wild West, loaded with prostitutes and crooked cops. We also should know that every time we decide to "leave the resort" in search of pussy, that we put ourselves at risk (robbery, assault, HIV, jail, extortion, murder).
Those that choose to "leave the resort" in search of dick, put themselves at much greater risk. Van Teasley appears to have put himself in that category. Personally, I choose to avoid any dealings with Dominican men, especially, scouts, pimps, drivers, and tigueres. Nevertheless, those foreigners who choose to actively search for men and/or boys in the Dominican Republic for the purposes of sex will find themselves a statistic (robbery, assault, HIV, jail, extortion, murder).
It's just a matter of time.
-HelpmannDude had an alternative lifestyle but no one deserves to be hog tied and have their throat cut. Some of the details are coming out now but let's wait to give the family time to grieve.
Gazcue was on the come up with many new improvements to the malecon area to promote tourism. This has to have foreigners that live there on edge a little.
Someone posted recently about gay hotels and restaurants in SD, so the community was quietly striving, now they will come under the microscope because of this brutal act.
I've been in TiaTia cabana on the west side of the malecon with two street walkers I've picked on that end with no prob, but won't do that anymore. Maybe it's a wake up call to tighten up out own personal security.
Damn, another new angle! I didn't know this guy was in the DR playing catch and pitch! It's still fucked up that he was murdered though, but I didn't read anything stating that he was a m a r i c n.In the Washington Post article, they mention that he was an advocate for gay rights.
Nevertheless, I was pretty sure that he was a gay after I read about the crime on El Nuevo Diario, which published the story a couple of days before the Post. I found his profile on Facebook, saw his photo and read his background, then determined that this thin, well dressed D.C. attorney, who traveled to the DR 10 times a year was homosexual.
A couple of days later, I read the Post article, which had more background on Teasley and the crime. No signs of forced entry and a very graphic murder. Sounds like he knew or allowed the killer to enter his home. Whether this was a hate crime, revenge, or purely a robbery, I don't know. Because his murder was so heinous, it was probably was more than just a robbery.
-Helpmann
Mr Enternational
11-05-14, 01:41
Helpman, they say they know their own people!
Helpman, they say they know their own people!It's easy to spot a gay man, it's easy to spot a hoe, and it's easy to spot a phony.
-Helpmann
Parkinsons
11-05-14, 16:19
Gazcue was on the come up with many new improvements.Rehabbing old houses? Gentrifying an inner city neighborhood? That's when I knew he was gay.
Excellent point. A lot of people don't know it, but the Cuban National Medical School / Center is excellent, and trains doctors that go throughout central and south america.
After the Soviet Union fell, Cuba needed to secure a partner that would sell them cheap oil. Do you know what partnership they ended up agreeing on? Cuba training Venezuela's doctors and assisting with their health care.Havana earns almost $8 billion a year off the backs of the health workers it sends to poor countries.
http://online.wsj.com/articles/mary-ogrady-cubas-slave-trade-in-doctors-1415573715
WALL STREET JOURNAL
By MARY ANASTASIA O'GRADY
Nov. 9, 2014 5:55 p.m. ET
Western cultures don't approve of trafficking, which the Merriam-Webster dictionary defines as organized criminal activity in which human beings are treated as possessions to be controlled and exploited. Yet its hard to find any journalist, politician, development bureaucrat or labor activist anywhere in the world who has so much as batted an eye at the extensive trafficking racket now being run out of Havana. This is worth more attention as Cuban doctors are being celebrated for their work in Africa during the Ebola crisis.
Cuba is winning accolades for its international doctor diplomacy, in which it sends temporary medical professionals abroad - ostensibly to help poor countries battle disease and improve health care. But the doctors are not a gift from Cuba. Havana is paid for its medical missions by either the host country, in the case of Venezuela, or by donor countries that send funds to the World Health Organization. The money is supposed to go to Cuban workers salaries. But neither the WHO nor any host country pays Cuban workers directly. Instead the funds are credited to the account of the dictatorship, which by all accounts keeps the lions share of the payment and gives the worker a stipend to live on with a promise of a bit more upon return to Cuba.
Its the perfect crime: By shipping its subjects abroad to help poor people, the regime earns the image of a selfless contributor to the global community even while it exploits workers and gets rich off their backs. According to DW, Germany's international broadcaster, Havana earns some $7.6 billion annually from its export of health-care workers.
This is big business, which if it weren't being carried out by gangster Marxists would surely offend journalists. Instead they lap it up. In an Oct. 24 interview with World Bank President Jim Yong Kim, CNN anchor Christiane Amanpour lighted up when she talked about Cuba's health-care workers in Africa. Cuba clearly has something to teach the world in its rapid response, doesn't it, Ms. Amanpour gushed. Mr. Kim agreed, calling it a wonderful gesture.
What the Cuban workers in the line of the Ebola fire are being paid remains a state secret. But trafficking is not new for Havana nor is it limited to the medical profession. In October 2008 a federal judge in Miami ruled in favor of three Cuban workers who claimed they, along with some 100 others, had been sent by the regime to Curacao to work off Cuban debt to the Curacao Drydock Company. The plaintiffs described horrific working conditions for which they were paid three cents an hour.
The Christian Science Monitor reported at the time that the company admitted that the Cuban workers passports were seized and that their unpaid wages were deducted from the debt Havana owed the company. Tomas Bilbao of the Cuba Study Group in Washington told the paper that these types of violations are not out of the ordinary for the Cuban government. Their attorney told the paper that back home in Cuba, after they cried foul, their family members lost jobs and access to schooling and suffered harassment from gangs.
Making medical professionals an export product is provoking a doctor shortage in Cuba, which is exacerbating widespread privation in health care. A humane government might turn its attention to this domestic misery, but theres no money in that. Instead Cuba sells the labor of health professionals abroad even in the midst of persistent dengue and cholera outbreaks on the island.
Cuban doctors are not forced at gunpoint to become expat slaves, but they are given offers they cannot refuse. As Cuban doctor Antonio Guedes, who now lives in exile in Madrid, told the German DW, Whoever does not cooperate may lose his job, or at least his position or his son will not get a place at university. As with the workers in Curacao, the regime keeps health-care workers under constant surveillance and confiscates their passports. Something about that doesn't sound voluntary.
When given the chance, many of those trafficked have fled. In the last two years alone almost 3,100 Cubans have taken advantage of a special U.S. visa program that recognizes the exploitation of Cuban health professionals sent to third countries. As punishment the regime prohibits their families from leaving Cuba to see them. Getting certified to practice medicine in the U.S. can be long and arduous.
Doctors groups in Brazil have pressured the Brazilian government to demand that Cuba raise the slave wage it was paying some 11,000 Cuban health workers in that country. But last week Brazilian federal prosecutor Luciana Loureiro Oliveira said there is evidence that Havana still keeps at least 75% of the money designated by donors as salaries. She called this frankly illegal because it violates Brazilian labor law and said the Cubans should be paid directly.
That would be the end of Cuban do-gooding in Brazil.
Good post Helpman and thanks for the post.
I really hate when a journalist turns something that is doing good for society and makes it political. The article doesn't say anything about free education, free health, and free housing that the government provides. This is all about America vs Fidel and Americas failed embargo.
We do business with China, we do business with North Korea who killed 58,000 American troops in the war, but Cuba is off limits? Filter what you read people and figure out what's going on for yourself.
Its big ass week on the Gogo forum. Enjoy, more to come.
SavePros321
12-17-14, 19:10
By now you guys have probably heard this news already. Let me give you some insight to what is actually taking place behind the scenes:
Low oil prices are decimating the Russian economy and the Ruble (the official Russian currency). Many are fearing that this will only cause Vladamir Putin to become far more erratic than what he has going on with Ukraine. I have sent Gogo links in the past on how Russia had recently been trying to restart cozy relations with Cuba (the Russians have been making Port Calls in Cuba). This is nothing more than us (The US) shoring up our backyard and countering Russian influence there.
Ripple effect: now we are going to have more choices in mongering destinations besides just the DR. How much do you want to bet that we will never again see or hear rumors of a "Sosua Crackdown"? It's game on as these two countries will be competing hard for tourist dollars.
Competition is always good for the consumer!
By now you guys have probably heard this news already. Let me give you some insight to what is actually taking place behind the scenes:
Low oil prices are decimating the Russian economy and the Ruble (the official Russian currency). Many are fearing that this will only cause Vladamir Putin to become far more erratic than what he has going on with Ukraine. I have sent Gogo links in the past on how Russia had recently been trying to restart cozy relations with Cuba (the Russians have been making Port Calls in Cuba). This is nothing more than us (The US) shoring up our backyard.
Ripple effect: now we are going to have more choices in mongering destinations besides just the DR. How much do you want to bet that we will never again see or hear rumors of a "Sosua Crackdown"? It's game on as these two countries will be competing hard for tourist dollars.
Competition is always good for the consumer!Am I correct in understanding that the announcement means Cuba is getting a US embassy, but congress has to vote on it before the travel ban can be lifted? There's always more than meets the eye! It's a good move to close the back door. Cuba is close. It'll be good to finally mongers there as well!
SavePros321
12-17-14, 21:16
By Angela Greiling Keane and Mike Dorning. Dec 17,2014 (Bloomberg News).
Cuba and the USA Will begin to normalize relations in a surprising move by the Obama administration that will loosen a trade and travel embargo that is among the last remnants of Cold War policy.
The action means not simply the opening of a USA Embassy in Havana but the lifting of restrictions that have limited commerce and kept aficionados from legally bringing Cuban cigars to USA Soil.
The thaw, wrapped into the release of American aid worker Alan Gross and the exchange of a USA Spy for three Cuban intelligence agents, was announced by President Barack Obama and Cuban leader Raul Castro speaking at about the same time.
"Today, the United States of America is changing its relationship with the people of Cuba," Obama said at the White House. "Neither the American nor Cuban people are well served by a rigid policy that's rooted in events that took place before most of us were born. ".
The Cuban leader said "the progress achieved in the exchanges we've had shows that it's possible to find solutions to many problems. ".
"We have to learn the art of living together with our differences in a civilized way," Castro said in Havana.
Economic Reality.
Cuba's decision was also rooted in economic reality. Its longtime patrons, Russia and Venezuela, have lost influence and been squeezed by plummeting oil prices.
The changes follow a rare private intercession by Pope Francis, the Catholic Church's first Latin-American pontiff, secret meetings between Cuban and American delegations at the Vatican and in Canada, and an extraordinary telephone conversation lasting more than 45 minutes yesterday between Obama and Cuban leader Raul Castro.
The White House announced the steps after Cuba released Gross on humanitarian grounds. Following high-level talks between the governments since the spring, the USA And Cuba also made a parallel prisoner exchange of three Cuban intelligence agents for a USA Intelligence asset who has been imprisoned for more than 20 years, according to administration officials who briefed reporters on condition of anonymity before Obama speaks.
Prisoners Released.
Cuba also agreed to release 53 people the USA Considers political prisoners, some of whom have already been released, the officials said.
The White House plans to move swiftly. The administration expects to issue regulations within weeks and open an embassy as soon as is logistically possible, according to White House officials who briefed reporters on condition of anonymity before Obama spoke. Obama said he will work with Congress to lift the full trade embargo.
Travelers will be able to use credit and debit cards in Cuba and Americans will be able to legally bring home up to $100 in previously illegal Cuban cigars treasured by aficionados.
USA Companies will be permitted to export to Cuba telecommunications equipment, agricultural commodities, construction supplies and materials for small businesses. USA Financial institutions will be allowed to open accounts with Cuban banks.
Remittances.
Limits on Cuban-Americans' remittances to relatives in their homeland will jump to $8,000 from $2,000 annually. USA Companies will be permitted to export an expansive list of goods including building materials and allowed to build telecommunications infrastructure on the island.
Exports will mainly be permitted to Cuba's emerging private sector, including residential goods and equipment for small businesses and agriculture, an official said.
The president also ordered the State Department to review Cuba's designation as a state sponsor of terrorism. Cuba has been listed as a terrorism sponsor since 1982, the official said.
Cuba also agreed to allow greater Internet access for its citizens and easier telecommunications with the United States.
The USA And Cuba will begin a series of high-level visits between the government as they negotiate normalization of relations with a visit to Havana in January by an assistant secretary of state for talks on migration policy.
Cuban Influence.
The USA Isolation of Cuba has endured in part because of the influence of the Cuban-American exile community in Florida. Generational shifts have reduced support for the embargo, though Obama's moves drew criticism from some Cuban-American lawmakers.
Senate Foreign Relations Chairman Robert Menendez, who gives up his gavel to a Republican in January, criticized Obama's action, saying it "sets an extremely dangerous precedent" that "invites dictatorial and rogue regimes to use Americans serving overseas as bargaining chips. ".
"President Obama's actions have vindicated the brutal behavior of the Cuban government," said the New Jersey Democrat, whose parents fled Cuba during Fidel Castro's reign. "I fear that today's actions will put at risk the thousands of Americans that work overseas to support civil society, advocate for access to information, provide humanitarian services, and promote democratic reforms. ".
Overdue Change.
Senator Richard Durbin, an Illinois Democrat close to Obama, said the action is long overdue.
"Opening the door with Cuba for trade, travel, and the exchange of ideas will create a force for positive change in Cuba that more than 50 years of our current policy of exclusion could not achieve," Durbin, who visited Gross in Cuba in 2012, said today in an e-mailed statement.
The pope played a key role in the talks, sending a letter to Castro and Obama urging them to resolve the dispute over Gross and pursue closer relations. An official said the request from the Pope was rare and came shortly after a meeting Obama had with Francis at the Vatican earlier this year.
The Vatican hosted delegations from the two countries for talks, though most of the meetings were held in Canada, an administration official said.
Gross, a 65-year-old American, left Cuba on a USA Government plane this morning to fly to the USA And landed at Andrews Air Force Base outside Washington shortly before Obama spoke. The three Cuban agents were returned to their country this morning, an administration official said.
Gross was arrested by Cuban officials while working to expand Internet access for Havana's Jewish community. He was accused of undermining the Cuban state and in December 2009 was sentenced to 15 years in prison.
Cuba Embargo.
Trade with Cuba has been severely restricted for half a century due to a Cold War freeze. The USA Hasn't had normal diplomatic relations with Cuba since 1961. The two countries had no diplomatic relations until 1977. Since then, the USA Has been represented by an interests section within the Switzerland's embassy to Cuba.
Under President John F. Kennedy, the Central Intelligence Agency backed an armed invasion of the island along with repeated attempts to assassinate Cuban President Fidel Castro, Raul's older brother.
The USA Has maintained an embargo on most trade with the island, a policy that periodically has come under pressure from American business interests that see potential profit there. The World Bank, citing 2011 data, pegs the island's gross domestic product at more than $68 billion -- about what the USA Produced that year in a day and a half, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.
Under Raul Castro, who took over from his brother, Fidel, as acting president in 2006 and succeeded him two years later, the Marxist nation has taken tentative steps away from central planning. In July, Cuba lowered its economic growth forecast for this year to 1. 4 percent.
Earlier this week, Moody's said the economy on the island about 90 miles off the coast of Florida was slowing, citing "decreased reform momentum. ".
To contact the reporters on this story: Angela Greiling Keane in Washington at agreilingkea@bloomberg.net; Mike Dorning in Washington at mdorning@bloomberg.net.
SavePros321
12-17-14, 21:37
Am I correct in understanding that the announcement means Cuba is getting a US embassy, but congress has to vote on it before the travel ban can be lifted? There's always more than meets the eye! It's a good move to close the back door. Cuba is close. It'll be good to finally mongers there as well!I believe that is correct: this move doesn't automatically open up Cuba for tourism from US citizens, but it will be part of talks currently going on between our government and Cuba's. But best believe it will happen sooner than later. Cuba stands to benefit immensely from US tourism; and so does the travel industry:
US travel industry carefully eyeing Cuba tourism
Posted: Dec 17,2014 11:32 AM CST.
Updated: Dec 17,2014 11:32 AM CST.
New York (AP) -- Cuba was once a haven for sun-seeking American tourists. Beautiful beaches, lively casinos and late-night dancing made it the perfect getaway, only an hour's flight from Miami.
But the Cuban revolution led by Fidel Castro and the subsequent Cold War embargo of the communist island nation put an end to that.
President Barack Obama's announcement Wednesday of plans to re-establish diplomatic ties with the Caribbean nation doesn't mean that the island will suddenly open for tourism. It does, however, give hope to airlines, hotel chains and cruise companies. All which have been quietly eyeing a removal of the travel ban. That they soon will be able to bring tourists to Cuba.
"Cuba is the largest country in the Caribbean, so there's some exciting possibilities," Roger Frizzell, spokesman for Carnival Corp. , said. "Some infrastructure for cruising already exists in the country, along with several ports, so it offers great potential, but there are other issues that will need to be taken into consideration if this market opens up. ".
A handful of international companies already operate in Cuba. For instance, Spanish hotel chain Melia has 26 properties on the island.
For years, USA Airlines have been quietly dipping their toes in Cuba's warm waters.
While most Americans are prohibited from traveling to Cuba and spending money there, close relatives of Cubans, academics and people on accredited cultural education programs can visit. And there is a tiny, but robust business in transporting people to Cuba.
Most operators are tiny storefront travel agents in the Miami area with names like Alina's Travel Co. And Gina's Travel Services. Those agents then charter planes from carriers like American Airlines to transport the groups.
About 170,000 authorized travelers made the trip last year, according to the Department of Commerce.
American Airlines dominates many of the routes to Latin America with its hub in Miami. It's run charters to Cuba for more than 15 years, according to spokeswoman Martha Pantin. It now operates 12 to 14 weekly flights from Miami to Havana, Holguin, Santa Clara and Cienfuegos and from Tampa to Havana and Holguin.
JetBlue Airways started flying Cuba charters in September 2011. The first route was Fort Lauderdale, Florida, to Havana. Other flights were added. Then at the end of 2013, JetBlue looked to Tampa for more flights between Florida and Cuba. The first was a flight to Havana, then one to Santa Clara.
It's a very small part of the airline's business; just four weekly flights on Airbus A320's with 50 to 80 customers. The planes typically seat 150 passengers. Besides pilots and flight attendants, JetBlue adds charter representatives and a mechanics to each Cuba flight.
"We're doing it because we want to exercise our muscles and understand how you operate into this country. What happens with parts, quarantine, crews," CEO David Barger told The Associated Press last year. "Just understanding what happens, if in fact there's a normalization. ".
Delta Air Lines, which operated more than 240 charter flights between October 2011 and December 2012, said it has no immediate plans to fly to Cuba. But, spokesman Anthony Black noted that "having served there through our charter operations, the groundwork has been laid for us to possibly serve the market if an opportunity becomes available. ".
Travel booking site Orbitz quickly jumped into the fray Wednesday, saying that the decision will hopefully pave the way for open travel between Cuba and the USA For both country's citizens.
"We look forward to the day. Hopefully soon. When all Americans have the opportunity to travel to Cuba," CEO Barney Harford said in a statement. "There are numerous economic, social and cultural benefits that will flow from free and open access and our customers are eager to visit Cuba. ".
http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/27651702/us-travel-industry-carefully-eyeing-cuba-tourism
Yes, but it will take some time that Cuba will allow to be a serious competitor to Sosua.
But the trend is our friend.Love the DR but if Cuba opens I will treat the DR like the puta last. What was her name again.
By now you guys have probably heard this news already. Let me give you some insight to what is actually taking place behind the scenes:
Low oil prices are decimating the Russian economy and the Ruble (the official Russian currency). Many are fearing that this will only cause Vladamir Putin to become far more erratic than what he has going on with Ukraine. I have sent Gogo links in the past on how Russia had recently been trying to restart cozy relations with Cuba (the Russians have been making Port Calls in Cuba). This is nothing more than us (The US) shoring up our backyard and countering Russian influence there.
Ripple effect: now we are going to have more choices in mongering destinations besides just the DR. How much do you want to bet that we will never again see or hear rumors of a "Sosua Crackdown"? It's game on as these two countries will be competing hard for tourist dollars.
Competition is always good for the consumer!When I heard this news today the thought that I may get a crack at hot Cuban women now was the very first thing that I considered. Glad I'm not the only one, LOL.
Today the USA decided to seek normal relations with Cuba. People shouldn't jump to the wrong conclusions now, but remember what the revolution was all about to get a better understanding about what is really happening.
In the revolution of 1959 after Batista was replaced, Castro closed the casinos, eliminated the wide spread prostitution, threw the mobsters out and cracked down on corruption. All this was done to eliminate the American influence (negative influence) and give Cuba back to the Cuban people. When I walk around Cuba now I don't see casinos, I don't see corruption (tourists are perfectly safe and protected), and I don't see wide spread prostitution. So fellas don't think they will give up all they have achieved and turn Cuba into the next Las Vegas. I was talking to a Cuba vet my last trip that said Cuba was great for a mongered until the late 90's. He said American culture had creeped in and was slowly taking over Cuba until Castro stopped it http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/cuba/crime4.htm. American dress and music, corrupt Americans, and crime had risen. They arrested half the prostitutes and sent them to jail in 1999 and sent the rest to the campo, thus eliminating prostitution. So don't think prostitution will ever be allowed to flourish.
Several groups are now jockeying for position in the New Cuba. You have the powerful South Florida Cubans, you have the powerful American tourism industry, the Cuban tourist industry, the agricultural industry and the American entertainment industry (Cuba has amazing singers, dancers, and actors). Not to mention the American investors. Cuba will not allow an all out assault on their country just for money, it will be limited and controlled. There is a saying in Cuba; "its a country of 11 million people and 8 million are police and military". Cuba has a strong hold on its country and its people.
My prediction is that Cuba will be open for tourist groups who will over-pay for excursions. It will be controlled tours with specific agendas (educational, cultural and religion), not for mongering. Understand, walking around Cuba is like walking through history, its a museum. Investors will be allowed in under Cuban rules.
For mongerers, it will not be a free for all buffet as everyone thinks. The government has certain restrictions already in place that will challenge the monger. Currently hotels don't allow you to take girls there (unless you bribe the security), girls are harassed for walking with foreigners, known prostitutes are locked up for a year and a day. And carnets (cedula, identification) are required to be submitted to the casa owner if you have a private casa. Violating these rules has severe consequences.
Most American men have never had contact with girls from this island, most will be amazed. They are beautiful, make love with passion, and are very intelligent and hard workers. If the Dominican girls can hook these guys so easily then the Cuban girls will blow these guys mind completely. In a few years everything will change in Cuba because if the American influence. A casa particular (family home) that now costs 30 cuc (about 35 usd) with meals will cost 60 cuc as they develop a waiting list. Girls that now charge 20-35 cuc will soon charge 100 cuc. My lobster dinner that now charges 12 cuc will soon be 25 cuc.
Its funny because the euro guys are already fleeing Cuba in anticipation of the Americans. The Russians are now taking over quietly Sosua. The Italians and Germans are where the Americans aren't. We are already seeing the whole Caribbean adjust to what is about to happen. As Cuba slowly improves its infrastructure the rest of the Caribbean will be playing keep up.
The one person probably benefited most by this announcement is Bill Cosby. He is finally off the front page.
SavePros321
12-18-14, 23:42
Thanks for the Intel Gogo. I never new Cuba was that strict on prostitution.
Thanks for the Intel Gogo. I never new Cuba was that strict on prostitution.No drugs, citizens can't own guns only police and military. Talking to tourist is a warning the first time for Cubans. The second time is 1000 cuc fine (jobs only pay 20 cuc por mes). Third time a year in jail. Street fighting go directly to jail after the police whip your ass. If a crime is committed the police round up all the criminals in the neighborhood and throw them all in jail until someone starts talking.
Because of all this, Cuba is perfectly safe. I have never even seen an argument.
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