Mr Gogo in the Dominican Republic

[MiamiHeatLuver]

Great game last night bro! I was on the edge of my seat til half way through the last of the 4 th quarter. Bosh to the rescue. We would have closed this out much sooner were we at full strength. Thanks for the email.

[Blk Big Bootyluv]

Thanks for posting. Its been almost a year since I was there so I'm happy to see theses chicas.

Peace,

BBL


Black beards bikini contest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9xA-t95t8U&feature=youtu.be

[Mr Gogo]

Thanks for posting. Its been almost a year since I was there so I'm happy to see theses chicas.

Peace,

BBLI also have the video of the June 2 2012 bikini contest, but there is a lot of nudity. Out of respect for FOD management I won't post it publicly. But the " Behind the scene boys" can hit me up privately if you want to see it.

Here is a tease pic.

[Blk Big Bootyluv]

Looking at the others this blond one looks like the best. Maybe its just me but chicas from all walks of life don't have the same appeal that they once had, IMHO. I think I

Have now become a pervert or some might call me a veteran mongerer. I'm looking at the chicas 30 and over as washed up has beens and these 18 year olds as my style.

Problem with them is the maturity and experiences. That is a lot of time to invest in training an 18 year old to what you like? No? That chica is very gullible and

Subsceptible to the street boys antics.

Peace,

BBL


I also have the video of the June 2 2012 bikini contest, but there is a lot of nudity. Out of respect for FOD management I won't post it publicly. But the " Behind the scene boys" can hit me up privately if you want to see it.

Here is a tease pic.

[OldKool]

I want to see the video.


I also have the video of the June 2 2012 bikini contest, but there is a lot of nudity. Out of respect for FOD management I won't post it publicly. But the " Behind the scene boys" can hit me up privately if you want to see it.

Here is a tease pic.

[Mr Gogo]

Looking at the others this blond one looks like the best. Maybe its just me but chicas from all walks of life don't have the same appeal that they once had, IMHO. I think I

Have now become a pervert or some might call me a veteran mongerer. I'm looking at the chicas 30 and over as washed up has beens and these 18 year olds as my style.

Problem with them is the maturity and experiences. That is a lot of time to invest in training an 18 year old to what you like? No? That chica is very gullible and

Subsceptible to the street boys antics.

Peace,

BBLOther than the nudes of the blonde, guys have said that the other nudes (In the video) didn't touch the Black Beards girls with clothes. I'm sure that FOD will up the quality in the future. But we had a good talk about if pretty is better. We love the trophy on our arms and the fantasy about banging a fine girl, but sometimes the sex is just so-so.

My best girlfriend here in the States was "Miss S". A tall, dark skinned quiet sister that just looked average. She lived for my dick buried inside of her. I remember watching the football game and she would come out in Victoria secret and say" I'm horny baby", I would say "okay" and keep watching the football game. Well, two hours later she would be staying up hoping eventually that after the game I would get that pussy. A pretty girl would not have been so patient and loyal. I was in litigation trying to get my current job back, so the contract said if I work it would be deducted from my settlement, so I couldn't work. Anyway she got a second job and took care of US. All I had to do was be loyal, pick the kid up at 3pm, and lay pipe. Would a drop dead gorgeous chic had done this?

My last trip to Sosua I had a "project". There was and average looking chica that wasnt getting the attention at this certain bar as her fine co-workers. I thought she was what I needed so I put her in the rotation. The sex was average as she played the shy role, but I knew she just wasnt used to being NO 1. Since I've been back in the States she has been on my mind more than the pretty girls that I banged.

Sometimes we miss that quiet girl in the corner or that average looking girl in our search for beauty. I have the pretty girl for arm candy but the average girls seem to be more down with me for no reason, and that they are grateful to be appreciated. The fine chicas always want something other than us, sometimes its money, or security, or marriage, but the sex stops when the goal seems distant. Don't sleep on the average girls guys.

P. S. Oldkool, I have a good relationship with FOD, so I can't be rude. But I here are a few pictures (not nudes).

[Blk Big Bootyluv]

The clip below is about Columbians that Fuck donkeys. My mouth dropped on the floor. Has anyone heard of this before in DR.

I was pretty fucked up after seeing a 5 year old getting a blowjob in SOSUA from a puta, this doesn't help me cope.

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh1L9T7nW3T1iyQMv5

F*ck'and A man.

Peace,

BBL

[Blk Big Bootyluv]

you know i'm ya' boy so what you say is gold with me. idk i can get average chicas in the states. i don't want to pay for plane tix, hotel, rental car, gallons and gallons of liquor, not to mention hours and hours in transit to not have a memory of a trophy or feel i got something different. i feel like a big game hunter sometimes. i make a

checklist of things and women i want to do. i have yet to make a list full of average or ugly chicas lol. i just can't. lol.

when i was on my sabbatical last year in dr, i had a number of average looking, even one ugly chica. the ugly chica, we all know, has to do more. the first time i busted

was directly in her mouth and she didn't let got until all my juice was deposited their. she was ugly but sex appeal and sexual desire and pleasing spirit was through the

roof. she didn't make it into the rotation but i treated her nice.

i will have to agree bb has some sexy azz chicas but they have very very low enthusiasm. i haven't been able to forget that dark chica that won the bikini contest when we were their. that was exactly my speed. she was hot to me, but not drop dead, definitely not average. she even was not that enthusiastic about her work.

my $.02.

peace

bbl


other than the nudes of the blonde, guys have said that the other nudes (in the video) didn't touch the black beards girls with clothes. i'm sure that fod will up the quality in the future. but we had a good talk about if pretty is better. we love the trophy on our arms and the fantasy about banging a fine girl, but sometimes the sex is just so-so.

my best girlfriend here in the states was "miss s". a tall, dark skinned quiet sister that just looked average. she lived for my dick buried inside of her. i remember watching the football game and she would come out in victoria secret and say" i'm horny baby", i would say "okay" and keep watching the football game. well, two hours later she would be staying up hoping eventually that after the game i would get that pussy. a pretty girl would not have been so patient and loyal. i was in litigation trying to get my current job back, so the contract said if i work it would be deducted from my settlement, so i couldn't work. anyway she got a second job and took care of us. all i had to do was be loyal, pick the kid up at 3pm, and lay pipe. would a drop dead gorgeous chic had done this?

my last trip to sosua i had a "project". there was and average looking chica that wasnt getting the attention at this certain bar as her fine co-workers. i thought she was what i needed so i put her in the rotation. the sex was average as she played the shy role, but i knew she just wasnt used to being no 1. since i've been back in the states she has been on my mind more than the pretty girls that i banged.

sometimes we miss that quiet girl in the corner or that average looking girl in our search for beauty. i have the pretty girl for arm candy but the average girls seem to be more down with me for no reason, and that they are grateful to be appreciated. the fine chicas always want something other than us, sometimes its money, or security, or marriage, but the sex stops when the goal seems distant. don't sleep on the average girls guys.

p. s. oldkool, i have a good relationship with fod, so i can't be rude. but i here are a few pictures (not nudes).

[OldKool]

I was in Sosua in March and slept with 10 women. The best lay was a slightly over weight haitian I pulled from a casino. She The best BJ of my life. She also seemed to enjoy the dick. The was nothing wrong with the pretty girls but one rocked my world. When it comes to sex it is all about atitude. Sometimes the real pretty one think they are doing you a favor.


Other than the nudes of the blonde, guys have said that the other nudes (In the video) didn't touch the Black Beards girls with clothes. I'm sure that FOD will up the quality in the future. But we had a good talk about if pretty is better. We love the trophy on our arms and the fantasy about banging a fine girl, but sometimes the sex is just so-so.

My best girlfriend here in the States was "Miss S". A tall, dark skinned quiet sister that just looked average. She lived for my dick buried inside of her. I remember watching the football game and she would come out in Victoria secret and say" I'm horny baby", I would say "okay" and keep watching the football game. Well, two hours later she would be staying up hoping eventually that after the game I would get that pussy. A pretty girl would not have been so patient and loyal. I was in litigation trying to get my current job back, so the contract said if I work it would be deducted from my settlement, so I couldn't work. Anyway she got a second job and took care of US. All I had to do was be loyal, pick the kid up at 3pm, and lay pipe. Would a drop dead gorgeous chic had done this?

My last trip to Sosua I had a "project". There was and average looking chica that wasnt getting the attention at this certain bar as her fine co-workers. I thought she was what I needed so I put her in the rotation. The sex was average as she played the shy role, but I knew she just wasnt used to being NO 1. Since I've been back in the States she has been on my mind more than the pretty girls that I banged.

Sometimes we miss that quiet girl in the corner or that average looking girl in our search for beauty. I have the pretty girl for arm candy but the average girls seem to be more down with me for no reason, and that they are grateful to be appreciated. The fine chicas always want something other than us, sometimes its money, or security, or marriage, but the sex stops when the goal seems distant. Don't sleep on the average girls guys.

P. S. Oldkool, I have a good relationship with FOD, so I can't be rude. But I here are a few pictures (not nudes).

[Frannie]

I was in Sosua in March and slept with 10 women. The best lay was a slightly over weight haitian I pulled from a casino. She The best BJ of my life. She also seemed to enjoy the dick. The was nothing wrong with the pretty girls but one rocked my world. When it comes to sex it is all about atitude. Sometimes the real pretty one think they are doing you a favor.Was her name Kenya?

[SavePros321]

Sometimes we miss that quiet girl in the corner or that average looking girl in our search for beauty. I have the pretty girl for arm candy but the average girls seem to be more down with me for no reason, and that they are grateful to be appreciated. The fine chicas always want something other than us, sometimes its money, or security, or marriage, but the sex stops when the goal seems distant. Don't sleep on the average girls guys.
When I was on my sabbatical last year in DR, I had a number of average looking, even one ugly chica. The ugly chica, we all know, has to do more. The first time I busted

Was directly in her mouth and she didn't let got until all my juice was deposited their. She was ugly but sex appeal and sexual desire and pleasing spirit was through the

Roof. She didn't make it into the rotation but I treated her nice.Since we are on the subject of ugly chicks:

Definitely not my "finest hour" of mongering, but my eyes were mostly drawn to elsewhere. Plus she had ass so firm that if you slapped it too many times you'd sprain your wrist. You can probably tell which direction I had her facing most of the night.

All was good until she up-chucked all over the bed, floor, and bathroom sink overnight. (In my best Rick James voice): "Santo Libres are one heluva drug."

Compare and contrast (easier on the eyes, lol):

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3144-Mr-Gogo-in-the-Dominican-Republic&p=1289007&viewfull=1#post1289007

[Tempoecorto]

Sometimes we miss that quiet girl in the corner or that average looking girl in our search for beauty. I have the pretty girl for arm candy but the average girls seem to be more down with me for no reason, and that they are grateful to be appreciated.Thoughtful and critical observation Gogo! Soy de acuerdo! In addition to the physical beauty you speak of, I would add age as another parameter. Older women (and I am speaking not of DR but the Globe) , know better as to what works for guys. And also know their own bodies better to guide the man to their own climax plus they too savor the attention that many do not pay them any longer which translates into a better sexual experience. My personal observation.

[Tempoecorto]

Since we are on the subject of ugly chicks:Definitely not my "finest hour" of mongering, but my eyes were mostly drawn to elsewhere. ]But your idea of ugly is not necessarily that of mine. Isn't it? After all beauty is only in the eye of the beholder so why would not this woman be another "fine hour"?

[TomJackin]

The clip below is about Columbians that Fuck donkeys. My mouth dropped on the floor. Has anyone heard of this before in DR.

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh1L9T7nW3T1iyQMv5

BBLThanks, I just booked my flight to Columbia! Hee Fucking Westside Haw!

[Hillbilly69]

Thanks, I just booked my flight to Columbia! Hee Fucking Westside Haw!Why you visiting the Space Shuttle?

[Coolie High]

The clip below is about Columbians that Fuck donkeys. My mouth dropped on the floor. Has anyone heard of this before in DR.

I was pretty fucked up after seeing a 5 year old getting a blowjob in SOSUA from a puta, this doesn't help me cope.

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh1L9T7nW3T1iyQMv5

F*ck'and A man.

Peace,

BBLOMFG! That was some sick SHIT! Now I'm trying to figure out whose sicker. The dude fuckin the donkey OR my sick ass actually watching a dude fuck a donkey.

As far as you seeing a 5yr old gettig his dick suck in Sosua. How and the HELL did that happen? Or is it one of those stories that I REALLY don't want to know about.


Since we are on the subject of ugly chicks:

Definitely not my "finest hour" of mongering, but my eyes were mostly drawn to elsewhere. Plus she had ass so firm that if you slapped it too many times you'd sprain your wrist. You can probably tell which direction I had her facing most of the night.

All was good until she up-chucked all over the bed, floor, and bathroom sink overnight. (In my best Rick James voice) : "Santo Libres are one heluva drug."

Compare and contrast (easier on the eyes, LOL) :

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3144-Mr-Gogo-in-the-Dominican-Republic&p=1289007&viewfull=1#post1289007Yo SP you are my man 50grand but that B••% is SCARY! That looks like a man in a wig. That's not a woman that's a GREMLIN jajajajajaja. U must've had to call upon the power of gray skull and take a cialis pill to smash that.

Now I've had my share of ugly and fat be••$&es as well but got damn. That broad looks like GRIMLOCK in heels. You need to apologize to your dick for flying all the way to another country, taking your manhood out and puttin him in grimlocks mouth and then paying her. That gremlin should've been paying you LOL.

Now the one hunny you posted before can get it. WELL!


But your idea of ugly is not necessarily that of mine. Isn't it? After all beauty is only in the eye of the beholder so why would not this woman be another "fine hour"?Temp,

I still rarely understand your posts but SURELY you can see that this broad is FUGLY ie FUCKING UGLY! If you look up the word SEA-DONKEY on google a picture of that hoes face should come up LOL

[SavePros321]

Yo SP you are my man 50grand but that B••% is SCARY! That looks like a man in a wig. That's not a woman that's a GREMLIN jajajajajaja. U must've had to call upon the power of gray skull and take a cialis pill to smash that.

Now I've had my share of ugly and fat be••$&es as well but got damn. That broad looks like GRIMLOCK in heels. You need to apologize to your dick for flying all the way to another country, taking your manhood out and puttin him in grimlocks mouth and then paying her. That gremlin should've been paying you LOL.I don't know man, I was feeling a bit EOE'ish (Equal Opportunity Employer) this trip, LOL :D.

[Frannie]

Yo SP you are my man 50grand but that B••% is SCARY! That looks like a man in a wig. That's not a woman that's a GREMLIN jajajajajaja. U must've had to call upon the power of gray skull and take a cialis pill to smash that.

Now I've had my share of ugly and fat be••$&es as well but got damn. That broad looks like GRIMLOCK in heels. You need to apologize to your dick for flying all the way to another country, taking your manhood out and puttin him in grimlocks mouth and then paying her. That gremlin should've been paying you LOL.

Now the one hunny you posted before can get it. WELL!

Temp,

I still rarely understand your posts but SURELY you can see that this broad is FUGLY ie FUCKING UGLY! If you look up the word SEA-DONKEY on google a picture of that hoes face should come up LOLAre you serious? The girl may not be a beauty, and the photograph of her face is taken from a very unflattering angle, but she appears to be healthy, has good teeth, etc, though her hair is a mess. Would I have sex with her? I cannot tell from the photograph. I would have to meet her, talk to her, get a feel for her personality before making that decision. You cannot tell much about these girls from the photos posted here. They all look ugly on that metric, but when you meet them in person and talk to them, it is a completely different ball game. You have to hear their voice, see them walk or dance, etc. to know if they sexually arouse you.

[Coolie High]

I don't know man, I was feeling a bit EOE'ish (Equal Opportunity Employer) this trip, LOL :D.
Are you serious? The girl may not be a beauty, and the photograph of her face is taken from a very unflattering angle, but she appears to be healthy, has good teeth, etc, though her hair is a mess. Would I have sex with her? I cannot tell from the photograph. I would have to meet her, talk to her, get a feel for her personality before making that decision. You cannot tell much about these girls from the photos posted here. They all look ugly on that metric, but when you meet them in person and talk to them, it is a completely different ball game. You have to hear their voice, see them walk or dance, etc. to know if they sexually arouse you.I'm DEAD serious Fran! She should've paid SP for even takin the time to take a pic of her. Hell I should sue her for giving me nightmares that I'll have tonight from seeing her face. Grimlock indeed LOL.

I'm not talking about the "intangibles" like if she's a good person, performer in bed, body language towards you etc. I'm talking about just pure outside BEAUTY. And she does NOT have it. AT ALL!

Now as far as you can't trust the pics on the site to capture the true beauty of the hunny's, to an extent I agree with you BUT there are alot of pics on this site that captures the DR scene perfectly. You got Major in the photo gallery section posting some hottness. You turn to the Sosua board and the caberette board and you'll recently see some young tenderoni's that I wouldn't mind crushing on a tortilla chip with salsa.

Hell SP has posted QUITE a few STUNNERS on the board thru out the years that's why I was shocked to see my man admitting to smashing the sea-donkey! We've all done it but it's still a shock nonetheless. It's like seeing Hugh Heffner showing and admitting that he smashed a fugly woman once upon time in his life. Hell I'm honestly waiting for SP to scream "SIKE" or admit he was drugged that night LOL

[Tempoecorto]

Thanks, I just booked my flight to Columbia! Hee Fucking Westside Haw!Tom Jackin with your Hee Haw and Hillbilly69, with his shuttle stuff: you guys are seriously funny! LOL.

[Cagep1967]

She's a man baby!


Since we are on the subject of ugly chicks:

Definitely not my "finest hour" of mongering, but my eyes were mostly drawn to elsewhere. Plus she had ass so firm that if you slapped it too many times you'd sprain your wrist. You can probably tell which direction I had her facing most of the night.

All was good until she up-chucked all over the bed, floor, and bathroom sink overnight. (In my best Rick James voice) : "Santo Libres are one heluva drug."

Compare and contrast (easier on the eyes, LOL) :

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3144-Mr-Gogo-in-the-Dominican-Republic&p=1289007&viewfull=1#post1289007

[Tempoecorto]

OMFG!

Temp, I still rarely understand your posts but SURELY you can see that this broad is FUGLY. LOLBut that's okay, I. E, not to understand me! You are not missing anything profound. LOL.

[SavePros321]

She's a man baby!Come on Cape, she's got to be better looking than the picture of the broad you posted. Your byatch looked like Little Richard on a 4 day crack rock bienge!

"A whop baba luubop, a whop bam bu!"

[Azazel42]

Since we are on the subject of ugly chicks:

Definitely not my "finest hour" of mongering, but my eyes were mostly drawn to elsewhere. Plus she had ass so firm that if you slapped it too many times you'd sprain your wrist. You can probably tell which direction I had her facing most of the night.

All was good until she up-chucked all over the bed, floor, and bathroom sink overnight. (In my best Rick James voice) : "Santo Libres are one heluva drug."

Compare and contrast (easier on the eyes, LOL) :

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3144-Mr-Gogo-in-the-Dominican-Republic&p=1289007&viewfull=1#post1289007I can see the appeal of that thoroughbred body, and I love the thick thighs, ass, and muscletone of these type. BUT BRO. LOL. She does look like a black dude in a wig in that picture man. LMFAOO. I could hear that Austin Powers voice in my head screaming " She's a man baby, yeah!". LMFAOO when I looked at the pic, but hey brother I aint knockin it. I'd love to ravege that hot body myself. LOL. Like the title said: she's a moped; she's fun to ride, but you just don't want your buddies to see you riding her. LOL.

Azazel

[Frannie]

Like the title said: she's a moped; she's fun to ride, but you just don't want your buddies to see you riding her. LOL.

AzazelYou are never going to get to explore all the glories of sex if you think about what your buddies will say about a woman you want to have sex with. Although the women I like are usually tallish, well proportioned, willowy, brown skinned, young, healthy, fit, bright-eyed, bushy-tailed, etc. I have at times experimented with sex with older, fatter, thinner, shorter, fairer, etc. Just to see what it would be like. I always seem to revert to type eventually, but it is good to experiment and not allow yourself to get excessively typecast.

The things that would really put me off altogether would be bad teeth, bad skin, hairy face and body, poor hygiene, smoking, etc.

[Tempoecorto]

You are never going to get to explore all the glories of sex if you think about what your buddies will say about a woman you want to have sex with. Although the women I like are usually tallish, well proportioned, willowy, brown skinned, young, healthy, fit, bright-eyed, bushy-tailed, etc. I have at times experimented with sex with older, fatter, thinner, shorter, fairer, etc. Just to see what it would be like. I always seem to revert to type eventually, but it is good to experiment and not allow yourself to get excessively typecast.

The things that would really put me off altogether would be bad teeth, bad skin, hairy face and body, poor hygiene, smoking, etc.Nice! Willowy, bright eyed, bushy tailed..... BUSHY TAILED? You and your literary allusions!

[Tempoecorto]

Like the title said: she's a moped; she's fun to ride, but you just don't want your buddies to see you riding her. LOL.

AzazelIf you ride a moped, chances are all your friends are riding them too, equally secretively. So what gives?

GoGo said it best. Arm candy. Which has a place as well as mopeds. In the grand scheme of things.

[Frannie]

Nice! Willowy, bright eyed, bushy tailed. BUSHY TAILED? You and your literary allusions!I don't think it is a literary allusion. I believe it comes from fox hunting. A fox with dull eyes or a limp, listless tail is one in poor health and will not provide a good chase.

[Tempoecorto]

I don't think it is a literary allusion. I believe it comes from fox hunting. A fox with dull eyes or a limp, listless tail is one in poor health and will not provide a good chase.I thought it was kindergarten material. In reference to a squirrel?

Oh by the way, speaking of Animals, there is this book, The Naked Ape. I read about 25 years back. Desmond Morris. I think he is English and a Zoologist so he looked at human behavior from his Zoologist perspective. It is a fascinating study.

[SavePros321]

You are never going to get to explore all the glories of sex if you think about what your buddies will say about a woman you want to have sex with.I agree. I would have never posted the photos if I was worried what anyone would say, let alone be seen walking back to the hotel with her in public.

I've seen some of the photos some you smack-talkers have posted in the past. I don't think I'm too far off the mark, LOL!

For you guys talking smack and have NEVER posted any photos, well, you opinion on the subject is about as valid as Elton John's advice on how to please a woman in bed.

[Charles Pooter]

The things that would really put me off altogether would be bad teeth, bad skin, hairy face and body, poor hygiene, smoking, etc.And also, tattoos, piercings, colored contact lenses, dyed hair, plastic tits (though rarely seen on the North Coast) , cellulite, speaking English, or expensive cellphones. I would like to add "wigs and hairpieces" but that would rule out 95% of Haitian hookers so I have had to surrender gracefully on that one. Same for onion or garlic breath, but that can either be remedied with liberal use of Listerine or by "if you can't beat them, join them". I suppose I ought to add "braces" but it happens that two of my all-time favorites wore them, so I guess I have been brainwashed on that issue.

[Tempoecorto]

I agree. I would have never posted the photos if I was worried what anyone would say, let alone be seen walking back to the hotel with her in public.If nothing else, I would give you a lot of credit for publishing a picture that apparently is not to others' taste. Chances are, the emperor (I. E, we all) is naked without anybody else saying it.

[Tempoecorto]

Lovely! I agree with all you (and Frannie) mentioned and especially about speaking English and plastic tits. Ah, I had a good hamburger yesterday with onion so I told the woman who was giving me a lapdance, not to come too close to my mouth. She was a blond from Alabama and like you, allergic to garlic and onion! LOL.

P. S. I am in a military town in Southeast US and got lucky yesterday at a club even though it was a hurricane affair.

[Frannie]

Oh by the way, speaking of Animals, there is this book, The Naked Ape. I read about 25 years back. Desmond Morris. I think he is English and a Zoologist so he looked at human behavior from his Zoologist perspective.You mean there are people who look at human behavior some other way? Morris and Dawkins changed everything so by 1980 all human behavior was seen as primate behavior with the emphasis on evolutionary biology.

[Frannie]

plastic tits (though rarely seen on the North Coast)No, but the Hispaniola Woodpecker is quite commonly sighted.

[Manizales911]

I agree. I would have never posted the photos if I was worried what anyone would say, let alone be seen walking back to the hotel with her in public.

I've seen some of the photos some you smack-talkers have posted in the past. I don't think I'm too far off the mark, LOL!

For you guys talking smack and have NEVER posted any photos, well, you opinion on the subject is about as valid as Elton John's advice on how to please a woman in bed.I didn't think she was that bad and I'm kind of picky, unless I am drunk and then the crack of dawn isn't safe around me.

[Tempoecorto]

You mean there are people who look at human behavior some other way? Morris and Dawkins changed everything so by 1980 all human behavior was seen as primate behavior with the emphasis on evolutionary biology.Holy cow. You have read Morris too? Yea, I thought Morris was interestingly (perhaps even refreshingly) different at that point of time from say, Freud, Jung, McLleland or Fromm. Dawkins of course is another behemoth.

[Tempoecorto]

I didn't think she was that bad and I'm kind of picky, unless I am drunk and then the crack of dawn isn't safe around me.LOL. What a lovely line. Even the crack of dawn! I hardly ever get drunk and when I do, my little johnny goes to sleep too but otherwise, anyone that can make him stand at attention will get the contract. Color, creed no matter excepting of course what Charles Pooter and Frannie pointed out earlier.

[Frannie]

Holy cow. You have read Morris too? Yea, I thought Morris was interestingly (perhaps even refreshingly) different at that point of time from say, Freud, Jung, McLleland or Fromm. Dawkins of course is another behemoth.Makes us part of a not very exclusive club, considering the book has sold more than 10 million copies. Morris's trilogy The Naked Ape; The Human Zoo; and Intimate Behavior are mandatory texts for Mongering 101 and are a fascinating and very easy read. He also wrote a book called The Naked Woman, but that should have been covered in the prerequisites.

The Human Zoo is very interesting, because you could see ISG as the kind of social grouping or substitute tribal group he writes about where men compete with other men for status. In this book Morris argues that the "concrete jungle" is not really an accurate metaphor for urban life, and that the behavior of humans in urban society bears more resemblance to that of wild animals adapting to life in a zoo. Very well worth the read, if you haven't already.

[Llttf]

Come on Sir Pooter, you have to agree that a small discrete tattoo on the ankle or maybe below the beltline is OK and can even be quite attractive. Again piercings can be appealing if they are limited to the ears or the navel.

[Llttf]

Makes us part of a not very exclusive club, considering the book has sold more than 10 million copies. Morris's trilogy The Naked Ape; The Human Zoo; and Intimate Behavior are mandatory texts for Mongering 101 and are a fascinating and very easy read. He also wrote a book called The Naked Woman, but that should have been covered in the prerequisites.

The Human Zoo is very interesting, because you could see ISG as the kind of social grouping or substitute tribal group he writes about where men compete with other men for status. In this book Morris argues that the "concrete jungle" is not really an accurate metaphor for urban life, and that the behavior of humans in urban society bears more resemblance to that of wild animals adapting to life in a zoo. Very well worth the read, if you haven't already.I read this book when I was 18 (40 years ago) and I still think back to some of the theories he presented. I recall it made a lot of sense to me at the time, probably would make more sense now that I am older and wiser (?).

[Tempoecorto]

Makes us part of a not very exclusive club, considering the book has sold more than 10 million copies. Morris's trilogy The Naked Ape; The Human Zoo; and Intimate Behavior are mandatory texts for Mongering 101 and are a fascinating and very easy read. He also wrote a book called The Naked Woman, but that should have been covered in the prerequisites.

The Human Zoo is very interesting, because you could see ISG as the kind of social grouping or substitute tribal group he writes about where men compete with other men for status. In this book Morris argues that the "concrete jungle" is not really an accurate metaphor for urban life, and that the behavior of humans in urban society bears more resemblance to that of wild animals adapting to life in a zoo. Very well worth the read, if you haven't already.I was in India, in college when I read that book and I was really impressed. I never knew the book was that popular. I saw a video version of the book much later. So yes, I was surprised because people I know, not too many will have read him. Dawkins yes.

NO I have not read The Human Zoo. But with so much other stuff to read before the day is over, I have to move on. Next life! LOL.

[Tempoecorto]

Come on Sir Pooter, you have to agree that a small discrete tattoo on the ankle or maybe below the beltline is OK and can even be quite attractive. Again piercings can be appealing if they are limited to the ears or the navel.The other day, a girl giving me a private dance had her nipples pierced. I love sucking on nipples but hate the plastic / metal and so did not touch her.

[Blk Big Bootyluv]

yeah bruh she is ugly. kinda looks like a guy in a wig but the body is nice. lol.

we all have chicas, again, alll have had chicks we just had to have to get a quicky with to get our rocks off, i'm sure i have a dozen or so i would not post on isg for

fear of ridicule from my peers hahah. you are a brave man!

i will not be having anytime of relationship with any beast of the earth other than a human women. sex will animals is scary as fu#k to me.

as to me see a 5 year old getting a bbbj in sosua. the year was 2011, gogo and i were walking down pedro from cuba libre headed to clasicos, we were both hammeredafter we past passed passions i looked over to the left, their was a small tienda, banca or shop or something. their was a young lady not more than 30 yrs, seated with a toddler in her lap rolling him back and forth blowing (no pun intended) air on his stomach. the toddler was laughing hysterically, as my buzzed eyes focused in on the tender

moment between mother and child, in a life of abject poverty, i appreciated the love humans can have for one another, existential moment. my eyes had to be deceiving.

me are his pants down around his ankles?

yes, they were. his naked lower region was exposed and what she was blowing was not his stomach, it was his junk. i looked away but the shock forced me to look back

and confirm what i had already seen. why did i do that. the next shot was her taking him into her mouth and sucking his junk. i was pale. i tried to explain to gogo what i just seen, i couldn't find the right words. but i did get out something, to which his replied to was, life is fucked up brother be thankful for you blessings. i was fucked up.

we proceeded to latino bar, drank more, found women and closed our deals.

the end.

peace.

bbl.


since we are on the subject of ugly chicks:

definitely not my "finest hour" of mongering, but my eyes were mostly drawn to elsewhere. plus she had ass so firm that if you slapped it too many times you'd sprain your wrist. you can probably tell which direction i had her facing most of the night.

all was good until she up-chucked all over the bed, floor, and bathroom sink overnight. (in my best rick james voice) : "santo libres are one heluva drug."

compare and contrast (easier on the eyes, lol) :

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3144-mr-gogo-in-the-dominican-republic&p=1289007&viewfull=1#post1289007

[SavePros321]

As to me see a 5 year old getting a BBBJ in Sosua. The year was 2011, GOGO and I were walking down Pedro from Cuba Libre headed to Clasicos, we were both hammeredAfter we past passed Passions I looked over to the left, their was a small tienda, banca or shop or something. Their was a young lady not more than 30 yrs, seated with a toddler in her lap rolling him back and forth blowing (no pun intended) air on his stomach. The toddler was laughing hysterically, as my buzzed eyes focused in on the tender

Moment between mother and child, in a life of abject poverty, I appreciated the love humans can have for one another, existential moment. My eyes had to be deceiving.

Me are his pants down around his ankles?

Yes, they were. His naked lower region was exposed and what she was blowing was not his stomach, it was his junk. I looked away but the shock forced me to look back

And confirm what I had already seen. WHy did I do that. The next shot was her taking him into her mouth and sucking his junk. I was pale. I tried to explain to GOGO what I just seen, I couldn't find the right words. But I did get out something, to which his replied to was, life is fucked up brother be thankful for you blessings. I was fucked up.

We proceeded to Latino Bar, drank more, found women and closed our deals.

The end.

Peace.

BBL.It is YOU good sir who are braver than I for posting that story, LOL. If those where the photos (of mine) that should have never been posted, THIS should have been the story that should have never been told!

I'm sure the "Tickle Monster" put down is morning bagel and sat upright in his seat (pun intended) just to give your post special attention:

Jerry Sandusky called himself 'tickle monster,' accuser testifies:

"The sixth of the accusers who say they were abused by Jerry Sandusky took the witness stand Thursday and described being embraced in the shower by the former Penn State football coach who called himself the 'tickle monster.'

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-jerry-sandusky-20120614,0,1594860.story


Although I must admit the photos I posted probably had him going limp; that and the Donkey Shots:


The clip below is about Columbians that Fuck donkeys. My mouth dropped on the floor. Has anyone heard of this before in DR.

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh1L9T7nW3T1iyQMv5




Peace, and a WHOLE LOTTA Chicken Grease!

[Jaosousa]

it is you good sir who are braver than i for posting that story, lol. if those where the photos (of mine) that should have never been posted, this should have been the story that should have never been told!

i'm sure the "tickle monster" put down is morning bagel and sat upright in his seat (pun intended) just to give your post special attention:

jerry sandusky called himself 'tickle monster, ' accuser testifies:

[i]"the sixth of the accusers who say they were abused by jerry sandusky took the witness stand thursday and described being embraced in the shower by the former penn state football coach who called himself the 'tickle monster. '"elder bush mourns joe paterno's death. paterno was one of several speakers who seconded bush's nomination as president during the 1988 republican national convention in new orleans. the statement from the nation's 41st president made no mention of the child sex-abuse scandal at penn state that prompted the university's board of trustees to fire the legendary football coach." http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2012/01/joe-paterno-death-reaction-/1. t9tijqauv8e.

"former giants star dave meggett was sentenced to 30 years in prison yesterday after being convicted in south carolina of [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) a coed. meggett also choked her." http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/ex_giant_rapist_mo1hrfdjikohumg2ljxu7j

[Tempoecorto]

I read this book when I was 18 (40 years ago) and I still think back to some of the theories he presented. I recall it made a lot of sense to me at the time, probably would make more sense now that I am older and wiser (?).Ah. So you are the second person within the span of one day, who has read the book. This is why I like this forum, surprises of all kinds. The other day, I spoke with others about someone called Deming. Pretty women and bright minds, nothing better to shoot the breeze. LOL.

[Mr Gogo]

I remember that day BBL vividly. I didn't want to stare so I just tried to forget it. It didn't appear that the Mother was trying to be sexual. It appeared like the Mother was playing with his " Wewe" in a playful way to make him laugh and relax. She was sitting in front of the store in the street, so she wasn't trying to hide it.

I've noticed Dominican women worship the boys, Even if the son is a no job having, deadbeat Dad, mom still cherishes him. She was just proud that her son was going to be a MAN one day and be a great lover. I really don't know, but I will say Dominican society never surprises me. I was sitting in NG eating two weeks ago and a dead theif was being displayed on the tv. I turned my head to finish. Eating, but the Dominicans gathered around like it was the Superbowl.

[Tempoecorto]

Yeah bruh she is ugly. Kinda looks like a guy in a wig but the body is nice. LOL.

I will not be having anytime of relationship with any beast of the earth other than a human women. Sex will animals is scary as fu#k to me.I like the fact that you speak your mind without being politically correct. The chica did look like a guy in one shot but as Frannie said, the angle perhaps was not that flattering either.

On subject of animals, I was rather taken aback by the honesty of the people speaking about it in the video on Columbia, given the pall of shame that hangs over it. Most of these stuff is foisted upon us. Not having access to females or males (in jail for example or in cloistered Islamic societies where man on man is frequent but never admitted) or in the wilderness. In many old societies, goat / sheep herders would stay away from civilization for a long period of time and so that perhaps is the origin of such behavior.

[Tempoecorto]

I remember that day BBL vividly. I didn't want to stare so I just tried to forget it. It didn't appear that the Mother was trying to be sexual. It appeared like the Mother was playing with his " Wewe" in a playful way to make him laugh and relax. She was sitting in front of the store in the street, so she wasn't trying to hide it.

I've noticed Dominican women worship the boys, Even if the son is a no job having, deadbeat Dad, mom still cherishes him.You are absolutely right. The mom was just playing with her son although, a 5 yr boy is a little too big but with little babies, it happens as a natural thing, especially with blowing the baby's stomach to make him giggle.

Re mom's love for a boy (or a girl) despite the father: Her love is unconditional! As a father, I really cannot say the same about myself.

[Azazel42]

If you ride a moped, chances are all your friends are riding them too, equally secretively. So what gives?

GoGo said it best. Arm candy. Which has a place as well as mopeds. In the grand scheme of things.You know, for some working girl mongering, cat chasing, washing your dick in the sink tricks; you guys sure are quite pompous and judgmental. I like your reports bro, and I am appreciative of all the advice you give. All I sought to do was share my thoughts on a pic of a chica. That's it. You don't like my comments, oh well to each their own. I don't remember ever signing up for " The Birds and Bees 101 ". Pardon my french, but I don't need your fucken advice on sex or women bro. Don't give me that hypocritical shit about not caring what your friends think, because that is the exact fucken definition of "Eye Candy". Who's candy. Just urs. I don't think so. So get off your fucken high-horse there bud, and remember that back here on earth your just a regular guy who pays chicks to fuck him. Somehow this excludes you from the Cassanova distinction, and therefore makes you just like all the rest of us. It's cracks me up how you guys are so big and bad on this board, and talk like you guys are fucken John Wayne or something. I bet if confronted in person the situation would be grossly different, and that, gringo pinche self will soak through the facade and shelter of your keyboard and monitor. Just a hunch.

Azazel

[Sammon]

I remember that day BBL vividly. I didn't want to stare so I just tried to forget it. It didn't appear that the Mother was trying to be sexual. It appeared like the Mother was playing with his " Wewe" in a playful way to make him laugh and relax. She was sitting in front of the store in the street, so she wasn't trying to hide it.

I've noticed Dominican women worship the boys, Even if the son is a no job having, deadbeat Dad, mom still cherishes him. She was just proud that her son was going to be a MAN one day and be a great lover. I really don't know, but I will say Dominican society never surprises me. I was sitting in NG eating two weeks ago and a dead theif was being displayed on the tv. I turned my head to finish. Eating, but the Dominicans gathered around like it was the Superbowl.You cannot put western sensibilities in third world culture and behaviour.

What we consider as sexual is not so in there. Boys and girls and adults sleepp pratically next to each other on the floor. Privacy is not there for anybody.

There is mother's love for her son and father's love for his daughter. Playing around does not mean it is sexually oriented. I have girls who are best friends touch each other's breasts but it does not mean they want to go at each other sexually.

A young mother confessed to me that she is still breastfeeding her 5 year old son. Ofcourse I am sure she gets some pleasure but does not mean she will put his dick on her pussy sexually.

[Tempoecorto]

You know, for some working girl mongering, cat chasing, washing your dick in the sink tricks; you guys sure are quite pompous and judgmental. I like your reports bro, and I am appreciative of all the advice you give. All I sought to do was share my thoughts on a pic of a chica. That's it. You don't like my comments, oh well to each their own. I don't remember ever signing up for " The Birds and Bees 101 ". Pardon my french, but I don't need your fucken advice on sex or women bro. Don't give me that hypocritical shit about not caring what your friends think, because that is the exact fucken definition of "Eye Candy". Who's candy. Just urs. I don't think so. So get off your fucken high-horse there bud, and remember that back here on earth your just a regular guy who pays chicks to fuck him. Somehow this excludes you from the Cassanova distinction, and therefore makes you just like all the rest of us. It's cracks me up how you guys are so big and bad on this board, and talk like you guys are fucken John Wayne or something. I bet if confronted in person the situation would be grossly different, and that, gringo pinche self will soak through the facade and shelter of your keyboard and monitor. Just a hunch.

AzazelThanks for popping in. Pardon my Spanish : quien soy yo a juzgarte? You were the one on the high horse decrying mopeds and I was defending them so if anything you were the one who was judgmental but, which is perfectly okay as far as I am concerned...we all are entitled to our opinions... nothing personal.

I have no interest in lecturing you (or advising anyone-it is just shooting the breeze for me) and did not intend to. Apologies if I hurt your feelings. You are right, confronted in person, I am not even a gringo and I do not get any freebie from anyone. Please do not be so touchy either and if the gringos (I do not know who else you might be referring to, given that you spoke in second person plural) are not so okay to your, I presume latin (?) ego, you can always say "adios".

[SavePros321]

Jun 17, 10:43 AM.

EXCLUSIVE: Rodney King Dead at 47

UPDATE 9:27 AM PT. According to our sources, King's fiancée is telling friends King had been drinking and smoked weed in the hours before his death. Rodney King, the man who was at the center of the infamous Los Angeles riots, was found dead this morning in Rialito, CA. He was 47. According to our sources, King's fiancée found him dead at the bottom of a pool. Law enforcement sources tell TMZ they responded to a call at 5:25 AM PT. We're told they physically removed King from the pool and attempted CPR. Our sources say he was pronounced dead at 6:11 AM. Law enforcement sources say Rialto PD will open a drowning investigation, but so far there are no signs of foul play. King became famous in 1991 when he was the victim of police brutality at the hands of the LAPD. The officers involved in the incident were acquitted the following year and the announcement of the verdict led to the Los Angeles riots. *TMZ spoke with King about two months ago, where he seemed upbeat and introspective. *

[Blk Big Bootyluv]

I learn something new everyday. I alwayz wonder why my online chica lets her baby run around naked. I guess the US sexualizes everything and then we are taught to repress feelings of sexual desire. Other countries don't have that double standard.

Rio was the most sexual city I've ever been to, sex is normal so is desire. Thats what the locals told me. Idk naked kids and the street I'm just not going to get. I'm too western LOL.

Peace,

BBL


You cannot put western sensibilities in third world culture and behaviour.

What we consider as sexual is not so in there. Boys and girls and adults sleepp pratically next to each other on the floor. Privacy is not there for anybody.

There is mother's love for her son and father's love for his daughter. Playing around does not mean it is sexually oriented. I have girls who are best friends touch each other's breasts but it does not mean they want to go at each other sexually.

A young mother confessed to me that she is still breastfeeding her 5 year old son. Ofcourse I am sure she gets some pleasure but does not mean she will put his dick on her pussy sexually.
You are absolutely right. The mom was just playing with her son although, a 5 yr boy is a little too big but with little babies, it happens as a natural thing, especially with blowing the baby's stomach to make him giggle.

Re mom's love for a boy (or a girl) despite the father: Her love is unconditional! As a father, I really cannot say the same about myself.

[Mr Gogo]

Old Sosua.

I thought I would do a tribute to the old Sosua as I remember it just last year. For the newbies.

As you walked the streets of the old Sousa, it was full of lively energy. Sex, drinking, and partying was non stop 24 hours. Motochonchos zipping through the street with fine chicas sitting sideways on the back. During the day packs of girls walked around plying their trade. Eye contact was not recommended, because that was all the approval that was needed. Guys walking around holding the hands of their date for the day. Older white guys smiling with a Haitiana on each side of him as he walked to the hotel. Black guys in groups being cool just enjoying the scenery. European guys hanging at their favorite watering hole with the groupies nearby. Police walking around smiling. The beach had water, sunshine, shade, Preidentes, food, and chicas who usually would offer a hotel massage (wink) or an exchange of numbers for an evening quickie. Most beach girls say they don't go to Classicos, but then at 12am they walk in. Pretty daytime waitress that also claimed they werent putas and were usually to tired to go to Classicos. These were my favorite because they werent as aggressive. But they were very possessive. Everyone during the day had a presidente, music was always somewhere and a grill always had some chicken grilling.

Then came night time.

Took a nap to recharge, showered and put on some fresh gear. As soon as you step out of the hotel there were chicas, traffic and vendors. Started the tour, one spot for to long and you might miss something. Hit 4 roses for my first Cuba libre as I watch the girls migrate to El Flow and Classicos. Its like a parade of fine chicas going to an adventura concert. After an hour at 4 roses hit Passions just for a brief moment to mentally prepare for the night. Hit Lous to say Hi then El Flow but it was already packed and it was only 9pm. I don't like people all up on me so I hit Latinos. My ex works here and gives me free drinks but I over tip her. The game is on the TV as the girls circle like a track race. An occasional past fling stops by to give me a kiss on the cheek but my ex the bartender stares them off. Its now 10pm as I leave Latinos headed toward Merengue. I poke my chest out and slow my walk as I do the runway. Chicas on both side of the pathway trying to grab your arm to claim you prematurely. Every place is packed waiting for the show (Classicos). I go to the open bar across the street from Classicos. A chic works there and we can't stand each other (maybe because I'm always with a different chic when I go there). So after ignoring her and leaving a minimal tip I leave having accomplished my mission of just pissing her off. Classicos has a line at the bottom of the steps. I pay and take the walk to'the stairways of heaven". Its like Colombus discovering the new world everytime I enter. The waiters come and greet me like a celebrity (I tip them well). Now comes the hard part of the night, ordering off the menu. The backup plan is to wait for one of my bartender girls at 4 roses, Domino or Latinos to get off at 3am. Damn I miss the Old Sosua.

[Tempoecorto]

Jun 17, 10:43 AM.

EXCLUSIVE: Rodney King Dead at 47Ah. Was it 1995. The LA riots? Curious, what people on this forum think about that episode and Rodney King, hopefully an exchange without much acrimony 17 years down the road, if anyone cares to speak about it still? I am interested.

[MiamiHeatLuver]

The backup plan is to wait for one of my bartender girls at 4 roses, Domino or Latinos to get off at 3am. Damn I miss the Old Sosua.Thanks for the good memories! That was my back up as well! (I wonder if we know each other or have ever rubbed elbows, i betcha we have, hahaha lol) There or the old halegale, or la canoe, do you remeber la canoe? It was on the opposite corner of Europa down the dirt road on Alejo Martinez (it was always treacherous because of ladrones and pot holes to take the dirt road so you would go around the block the long way) was kinda hidden away but huge, a lot of locals, great music on the weekends and you could either try and pick up a local, if not the hot bartenders were always ready, willing and able. Good times!

[PolyOrchid]

TC, Rodney King was no angel and his reckless driving that day that resulted in his encounter with the LA Gestapo in the first place but in no way did it merit the treatment he received from those Blackbooted Nazis! Having received similar treatment from Chicago's finest while protesting the Vietnam War myself, I have no time for that kind of police brutality.

Unfortunately, I have no doubt such thuggery exists in most large US police departments still. Covered up a bit more successfully, I am sure, but I have no doubt it still occurs. And, yes, I know this and worse undoubtedly occurs in countries all over the world but I was raised with the belief that the USA held itself to a higher standard.

Yeh, and I quit believing in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny too.


Ah. Was it 1995. The LA riots? Curious, what people on this forum think about that episode and Rodney King, hopefully an exchange without much acrimony 17 years down the road, if anyone cares to speak about it still? I am interested.

[Mr Gogo]

I learn something new everyday. I alwayz wonder why my online chica lets her baby run around naked. I guess the US sexualizes everything and then we are taught to repress feelings of sexual desire. Other countries don't have that double standard.

Rio was the most sexual city I've ever been to, sex is normal so is desire. Thats what the locals told me. Idk naked kids and the street I'm just not going to get. I'm too western LOL.

Peace,

BBLGood post. When I was growing up getting a girl pregnant was a bad thing. My first couple years of fucking was ten strokes and pull out. I felt I would be letting my family down if I slip up. Later when I got a girlfriend she got on birth control but I still had " The fear". Then in my late teens I got an older girl who said her tubes were tied. Thats when I let go and enjoyed busting a nut in a warm wet pussy. She would have her legs cocked back serving it up. She would grab my nipples and turn them hard as I was having an orgasm. I would be slobbing on myself and speaking like I was retarded UGH UGH. I would feel my brain short circuiting as feelings went up and down my spine. She would break me all the way down. But a couple kids later and child support made me go back into my shell. Fucking became a show, watching myself and the act but hardly ever getting that special nut. Then I got my shit clipped but I was still scared of disease, so I still wasn't free sexually. Maybe it's a good thing because I wouldve been broke with a bunch of kids, had I been sexually free.

At MHL, no bro don't remember that place. But I love the bar girls because they have a legit hustle to hide what they do. They seem to have a little more dignity than the street girls.

[OldKool]

That sounds fantastic. I still love Sosua and regret not seeing the old stuff however you still can have a great time. There are plenty of women and the price is still good. Truth be told you need to be able to determine what kind of chica you have, hard core pro or semi pro. It makes a difference in the service you get.


Old Sosua.

I thought I would do a tribute to the old Sosua as I remember it just last year. For the newbies.

As you walked the streets of the old Sousa, it was full of lively energy. Sex, drinking, and partying was non stop 24 hours. Motochonchos zipping through the street with fine chicas sitting sideways on the back. During the day packs of girls walked around plying their trade. Eye contact was not recommended, because that was all the approval that was needed. Guys walking around holding the hands of their date for the day. Older white guys smiling with a Haitiana on each side of him as he walked to the hotel. Black guys in groups being cool just enjoying the scenery. European guys hanging at their favorite watering hole with the groupies nearby. Police walking around smiling. The beach had water, sunshine, shade, Preidentes, food, and chicas who usually would offer a hotel massage (wink) or an exchange of numbers for an evening quickie. Most beach girls say they don't go to Classicos, but then at 12am they walk in. Pretty daytime waitress that also claimed they werent putas and were usually to tired to go to Classicos. These were my favorite because they werent as aggressive. But they were very possessive. Everyone during the day had a presidente, music was always somewhere and a grill always had some chicken grilling.

Then came night time.

Took a nap to recharge, showered and put on some fresh gear. As soon as you step out of the hotel there were chicas, traffic and vendors. Started the tour, one spot for to long and you might miss something. Hit 4 roses for my first Cuba libre as I watch the girls migrate to El Flow and Classicos. Its like a parade of fine chicas going to an adventura concert. After an hour at 4 roses hit Passions just for a brief moment to mentally prepare for the night. Hit Lous to say Hi then El Flow but it was already packed and it was only 9pm. I don't like people all up on me so I hit Latinos. My ex works here and gives me free drinks but I over tip her. The game is on the TV as the girls circle like a track race. An occasional past fling stops by to give me a kiss on the cheek but my ex the bartender stares them off. Its now 10pm as I leave Latinos headed toward Merengue. I poke my chest out and slow my walk as I do the runway. Chicas on both side of the pathway trying to grab your arm to claim you prematurely. Every place is packed waiting for the show (Classicos). I go to the open bar across the street from Classicos. A chic works there and we can't stand each other (maybe because I'm always with a different chic when I go there). So after ignoring her and leaving a minimal tip I leave having accomplished my mission of just pissing her off. Classicos has a line at the bottom of the steps. I pay and take the walk to'the stairways of heaven". Its like Colombus discovering the new world everytime I enter. The waiters come and greet me like a celebrity (I tip them well). Now comes the hard part of the night, ordering off the menu. The backup plan is to wait for one of my bartender girls at 4 roses, Domino or Latinos to get off at 3am. Damn I miss the Old Sosua.

[Mr Gogo]

Ah. Was it 1995. The LA riots? Curious, what people on this forum think about that episode and Rodney King, hopefully an exchange without much acrimony 17 years down the road, if anyone cares to speak about it still? I am interested.That will eventually lead to a racial exchange of opinions. I don't know if It's healthy to have this discussion here. It's best to stay away from race and politics to keep the forum on a positive path. I answered your " Monkey" question in the general forum, but I won't have a discussion about it.

Have a lovely day my friend LOL.

[Tempoecorto]

When I was growing up getting a girl pregnant was a bad thing. My first couple years of fucking was ten strokes and pull out. I felt I would be letting my family down if I slip up. Later when I got a girlfriend she got on birth control but I still had " The fear". Then in my late teens I got an older girl who said her tubes were tied. Thats when I let go and enjoyed busting a nut in a warm wet pussy. She would have her legs cocked back serving it up. She would grab my nipples and turn them hard as I was having an orgasm. I would be slobbing on myself and speaking like I was retarded UGH UGH. I would feel my brain short circuiting as feelings went up and down my spine. She would break me all the way down. But a couple kids later and child support made me go back into my shell. Fucking became a show, watching myself and the act but hardly ever getting that special nut. Then I got my shit clipped but I was still scared of disease, so I still wasn't free sexually. Maybe it's a good thing because I wouldve been broke with a bunch of kids, had I been sexually free.That was disarmingly candid, Gogo! Thank you.

I can and probably many here, can relate to the "fear". Heck, I still have it and to cap it, I hate rubber! What I would not give, just to sneak on a girl from the back and she accepting me - both without the fear. LOL. Next life!

[Tempoecorto]

That will eventually lead to a racial exchange of opinions. I don't know if It's healthy to have this discussion here. It's best to stay away from race and politics to keep the forum on a positive path. I answered your " Monkey" question in the general forum, but I won't have a discussion about it.

Have a lovely day my friend LOL.Personally, the fear of an open discussion in this country, has and will continue to keep the divide alive. I would not even think of raising this theme as it would not come to me but for the mail of savepro321 who I thought wanted us to think about it but this is your zone and I would not wish to dis-respect your concern.

[Tempoecorto]

TC, Rodney King was no angel and his reckless driving that day that resulted in his encounter with the LA Gestapo in the first place but in no way did it merit the treatment he received from those Blackbooted Nazis! Having received similar treatment from Chicago's finest while protesting the Vietnam War myself, I have no time for that kind of police brutality.

Unfortunately, I have no doubt such thuggery exists in most large US police departments still. Covered up a bit more successfully, I am sure, but I have no doubt it still occurs. And, yes, I know this and worse undoubtedly occurs in countries all over the world but I was raised with the belief that the USA held itself to a higher standard.

Yeh, and I quit believing in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny too.I agree with you completely but from personal experience, I can tell you it is a lot safer to protest in this country than in Third world countries (well, Syria is a good example) , perhaps in southern Europe as well. I mean if you speak of your Miranda rights anywhere else, the captors are going to die laughing but, I would not pursue this discussion here, as this is Gogo's forum.

Lovely hearing from you and BTW, I am not gay! LOL.

[Mr Gogo]

That was disarmingly candid, Gogo! Thank you.

I can and probably many here, can relate to the "fear". Heck, I still have it and to cap it, I hate rubber! What I would not give, just to sneak on a girl from the back and she accepting me. Both without the fear. LOL. Next life!LMAO friend. Be careful what you wish for. You might return in the " Next life" with the opportunity to bed all the beautiful ladies you want bareback but you might also be driving a motoconcho in Sosua.

Also I think savepros was just reporting news. It wasn't meant to start a racial discussion. But thanks for the respect.

[AlwaysHorny 2]

Since this is the Gogo forum, I think I have the right to post something outside of the typical DR banter. However, a large part of my post uses the DR for comparison.

I'm in Spain right now. Specifically Barcelona. This is day 3. Although, I have yet to get laid, I am having a great time. There are soo many beautiful and fit women here. Mostly young twenty somethings. Too bad that I am approaching 40! I leave for Ibiza tomorrow and will finish up the rest of the two week vacation there.

I anticipate a much more carefree (wild) experience for that time period. I will share a few experiences thus far that left me stuck and slightly unconfident and / or insecure. I have located a brothel that seems to get solid reviews. I am contemplating a visit there because this is not a mongering trip. In a way, I want to challenge myself to wait for a non pro experience for fear that I may get too laid back once I knock the edge off. Ha! Who the hell am I fooling? My horny ass will always look for some putang! LOL*

I try not to use my monger math to perform a cost / benefit analysis for this trip, but I do know that this trip could have easily been 3 possibly 4 five day trips to the DR. I know I can't equate the cultural and historical significance of certain experiences, but it still doesn't stop me from thinking about it.

Ok, I'll get with it. I know I can be long winded. Anybody who read all parts to my last trip report already know how much I can talk.

I'll cut out some detail to avoid some folks losing interest. I decided to be adventurous and take the train to my hotel instead of a taxi because it saves a good amount of change and I wanted to get a local feel from the beginning. Boy did I set myself up for something. Especially with my limited Spanish. The little bs lingo that gets me over in Sosua will not cut it here. I'm having a tougher time communicating here than I did in Santo Domingo.

I do think that if I had a firmer grasp of the language I would have had better results. *Just catching the trains was difficult. I had to catch two trains. After the first train, I finally figured out the second train needed to get me near my hotel. BAM! As I'm slugging luggage toward the second train, I almost lost my breath by the site of this early twenty something Spanish beauty walking in my direction. She was about 5'3 with long dark hair, slim midsection and a perfect slightly bigger than bubble ass. You know an ass so great you can tell from the front!

We only had a brief moment or maybe the moment was solely mine. This will serve as an example of the perplexing state I was in throughout these past three days because I don't know if my ego is out of control or if I'm being a big pussy. I really felt like she was checking me out, but my fears told me to sit my old ass down. *

I noticed a few beauties on the way to my hotel. I arrived in BCN in the morning and luckily my hotel let me check in. I was tired, so I dropped my bags and took a 2 hour nap. I scoured the area and walked up and down Las Ramblas. I saw a lot of beautiful women. I would go so far as to say some of them were actually stunning.

Fast forward to that night. People go out to clubs really late here. I visited Razzmatazz and I didn't even get there until 2 am. I had to be one of the ten oldest people there in this packed warehouse type club. They had a live band that had a Dj and they would cover songs of different genres and give them a rock twist. They were really good and the energy was electric. The music had a bunch of bass and that sound system was bad ass.

I got drunk as hell. I had a great time. I *posted up most of the night because I was a little self conscious about my age. Those of similar age (males) seemed to be trying too hard so I didn't want to clown myself.

So I'm chilling. I had a couple drinks and I'm loosening up some. I feel a tap on my shoulder and this slender, pretty young thang is standing to my left. Between the loud music and my limited Spanish, I couldn't understand what she was saying, so she repeated and pointed toward the bar. I gave her a shoulder shrug, but with a smile attached. She started to walk away. I lightly grabbed here arm, but she left in a fuss. So know I'm wondering if I blew it or if she was trying to play me for a drink.

Oh well. Several drinks later, I started feeling the groove and danced some. I was not prepared to handle my next experience. This young chica jumped on top of one of the subwoofers and danced seductively. She was staring right at me. The young dude behind her was getting no attention, so I guess he was satisfied with just grinding on her ass.

At this point, I don't know what to do so I kept dancing and put some of my best moves in motion and it seemed to be working because I felt her eyes all over me. She had on some short tight white shorts and it seemed like she was basically inviting me to her crotch, but I couldn't being myself to get on that damn speaker. The other dude gave up and left. I kept wondering if she is inviting me or just fucking with my head. I sometimes get mistaken for my late twenties to early thirties when I'm *freshly groomed. I know it was dark in there, but geez. She knew I couldn't be 21 years old! LOL.

Eventually, a young fellow swooped her up and I had to painfully watch them make out on the dance floor the rest of the night. She wanted dick that night and I'm sure she got it. Damn!

As much as others dog Sosua, I have had women there that are at the very least of her level. I couldn't help but think of Sosua. I wonder if something is wrong with me. Am I in love with the DR soo much that it is the barometer I use to gauge much of my life now?

I know I would have easily given that woman $100. I am not saying that I'd rather be in the DR, but the thought lingers. I'll share my second and third day experiences in another post. I will try to limit Ibiza to one or two reports. If anyone is interested. *

[Mr Gogo]

AH2 thanks for taking us on your trip. We all want to hear your report. Take your time and don't worry about the length of your report, we want to feel what you feel.

My advice would be to don't worry about you're age, you look young. Also loosen up and buy the girls drinks and have a good time. You've got to put yourself out there. Also ask one of the girls you meet to take you on a tour of their beautiful city. Just hang out and act like a tourist who needs a guide. Don't be acting like you are a pussy fiend. Act like you want to work on your Spanish. Don't be afraid to spend money, being a cheepo will turn the girls off. We are standing by waiting on your report.

[Jaosousa]

I'm in Spain right now. Specifically Barcelona. This is day 3. Although, I have yet to get laid, I am having a great time. There are soo many beautiful and fit women here. Mostly young twenty somethings. Too bad that I am approaching 40! I leave for Ibiza tomorrow and will finish up the rest of the two week vacation there.Visca Barca (bisca barsa) , the cheer for the Barcelona soccer team. Many people born in Barcelona consider themselves Catalans first, then Spaniards. There is a separate language called Catalan. Huge rivalry between FC Barcelona and Real Madrid FC, with both clubs spending tons of money to get the best players.

The Catalan flag has 4 red stripes signifying four bloody fingers.

Ibiza has a mix of people. There are three other islands near Ibiza. Hot dry climate on those islands. Regular boat ferry service from Barcelona to the islands.

Euro Championships currently taking place in Poland and the Ukraine. The Spanish team is one of the favorites to win, might be fun to watch a match showing the Spanish team on TV in a bar or venue with a bunch of people from Spain.

Amnesia in Ibiza: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y25auyuILYU

Many people in Barcelona went crazy for the Dream Team when they played in the 1992 Barcelona Olympics.

I saw people f_cking on some of the beaches in Ibiza.

[SavePros321]

I'm in Spain right now. Specifically Barcelona. This is day 3. Although, I have yet to get laid, I am having a great time. There are soo many beautiful and fit women here. Mostly young twenty somethings. Too bad that I am approaching 40! I leave for Ibiza tomorrow and will finish up the rest of the two week vacation there.If you are there for two weeks then jump on International Cupid or Euro-Cupid or whichever Cupid site that caters to that side of the world. Contact women on there and do like Gogo suggested: "Don't act like a pussy fiend. Act like you are a tourist who needs a guide." I would also let them know that you are in the process of learning Spanish to make them aware that your Spanish is limited.

Make one standardized letter in MS Word, then copy, paste, and send it to as many women as you can (that you find attractive). Letting them know that you will be there for two weeks won't hurt either. You won't come off as just some horny foreigner trying to pump and dump (literally). If they respond then ask for a cell number or email address. Agree to meet at someplace familiar (like a coffee shop).

It works, trust me!

[Mr Gogo]

LMAO, hot video Jao I watched the whole ten minutes. The only problem was that it made me miss Classicos more LOL. AH2 if thats how they party there, DAMN. Another one of my secrets that I use in Colombia is to try to blend in. Don't put a premium on standing out. They know you are a visitor but they want you to TRY to choose their fashion sense a little. In Colombia it's sporty loafers, jeans, nice shirt tucked in with collar, and belt usually the color of my shoes. Good advise Savepros but I think he is already on the right path, he just has to pull the trigger. I would've followed up on the move that the girl made, even if it cost me a couple drinks. But we learn by our mistakes, next time he closes that deal.

[Tempoecorto]

LMAO friend. Be careful what you wish for. You might return in the " Next life" with the opportunity to bed all the beautiful ladies you want bareback but you might also be driving a motoconcho in Sosua.

Also I think savepros was just reporting news. It wasn't meant to start a racial discussion. But thanks for the respect.LOL. Just the fact that you get to rub so many breasts is a big turn on for me in favor of moto-conchista. Unfortunately though, the money will have to be a LOT better to entice me. He he!

[Jaosousa]

I watched the whole ten minutes. The only problem was that it made me miss Classicos more LOL.

Classicos? Ok.

At about the 6 minute mark of the video, chica without panties.

[Mr Gogo]

Classicos? Ok.

At about the 6 minute mark of the video, chica without panties.It takes six minutes to walk from Classicos to Newgardens and panties are off.

[Jaosousa]

It takes six minutes to walk from Classicos to Newgardens and panties are off.Newgardens?

Hotel Garden Keti was supposedly named for the owner's first wife, Keti. Supposedly when he divorced Keti, the second wife, a Dominicana, did not like the name and the hotel was renamed Hotel New Garden.

Who's panties are off?

[Mr Gogo]

Newgardens?

Hotel Garden Keti was supposedly named for the owner's first wife, Keti. Supposedly when he divorced Keti, the second wife, a Dominicana, did not like the name and the hotel was renamed Hotel New Garden.

Who's panties are off?Touche! Thanks for posting in the Gogo forum.

[Berthold]

Visca Barca (bisca barsa) , the cheer for the Barcelona soccer team. Many people born in Barcelona consider themselves Catalans first, then Spaniards. There is a separate language called Catalan. Huge rivalry between FC Barcelona and Real Madrid FC, with both clubs spending tons of money to get the best players.

The Catalan flag has 4 red stripes signifying four bloody fingers.

Ibiza has a mix of people. There are three other islands near Ibiza. Hot dry climate on those islands. Regular boat ferry service from Barcelona to the islands.

Euro Championships currently taking place in Poland and the Ukraine. The Spanish team is one of the favorites to win, might be fun to watch a match showing the Spanish team on TV in a bar or venue with a bunch of people from Spain.

Amnesia in Ibiza:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y25auyuILYU

Many people in Barcelona went crazy for the Dream Team when they played in the 1992 Barcelona Olympics.

I saw people f_cking on some of the beaches in Ibiza.Catalan is actually there first language, but you will be fine speaking spanish.

[Jaosousa]

Catalan is actually there first language, but you will be fine speaking spanish.You used to live in Spain, so you probably have some good intel. Maybe you can send AH2 a PM or maybe he could send you a PM, regarding any must see or must do things in Ibiza or stuff in or near Barcelona (or post it here).

Probably a good number of Dominican and Colombian pros in Spain.

[AlwaysHorny 2]

I'll probably wait to write something in length until I return home. I picked the worst time for a batting slump, but I got the rust off after day 4 with a German chick in her early thirties. Still too old for me.

One thing about Ibiza, the partying is on an entire different level. I have yet to return to my room before 6am and the last two night were 9am and 8am. I know. I'm told old for this ish, but the atmosphere is soo freaking mental and I love music. I partied my ass off too much and kinda forgot about getting laid. I will tell a quick story. I was at Bora Bora yesterday and I was just in my groove then out of nowhere this incredibly seductive beautiful Spanish young tender from Cuba (living in Batcelona) came to my side. I'm normally reserved and non aggressive toward women, but she gave me that energy that just takes me over the hump. I couldn't rest her. When she looked me in the eye, I was done. Long story short, I fumbled the rock. Damn, I think I made a combination of errors. I'll explain later, but I still feel that if I knew Spanish better things could have been different. As I type, I can vividly remember how good she smelled and her bright smile. I may have not closed the deal, but it felt great to be in the game. She reminded me of Jessica. I think I'll be spending at least a day with Jessica in August! LOL.

I got a video from Amensia as well. Wifi is spotty at my hotel. I have a pic or two as well. I don't know what is to become of the rest of my trip because my chica from DC is flying in. I met her last year in MIA. I'm pretty certain she is bi, so things will possibly get real interesting. I've never slept with her. The crazy part is that I hadn't spoken to her in months except for fathers day and it just kinda happened.

Gogo, I enjoy your message board and the contributors. The Sosua board seems to get weird to often. I hope some of those clowns stay out of here.

[OldKool]

You spent all that money to go to a disco where you can not speak the language. So far you have done nothing but dance. Buying pussy is not that hard. Com on man you ate boring me.


I'll probably wait to write something in length until I return home. I picked the worst time for a batting slump, but I got the rust off after day 4 with a German chick in her early thirties. Still too old for me.

One thing about Ibiza, the partying is on an entire different level. I have yet to return to my room before 6am and the last two night were 9am and 8am. I know. I'm told old for this ish, but the atmosphere is soo freaking mental and I love music. I partied my ass off too much and kinda forgot about getting laid. I will tell a quick story. I was at Bora Bora yesterday and I was just in my groove then out of nowhere this incredibly seductive beautiful Spanish young tender from Cuba (living in Batcelona) came to my side. I'm normally reserved and non aggressive toward women, but she gave me that energy that just takes me over the hump. I couldn't rest her. When she looked me in the eye, I was done. Long story short, I fumbled the rock. Damn, I think I made a combination of errors. I'll explain later, but I still feel that if I knew Spanish better things could have been different. As I type, I can vividly remember how good she smelled and her bright smile. I may have not closed the deal, but it felt great to be in the game. She reminded me of Jessica. I think I'll be spending at least a day with Jessica in August! LOL.

I got a video from Amensia as well. Wifi is spotty at my hotel. I have a pic or two as well. I don't know what is to become of the rest of my trip because my chica from DC is flying in. I met her last year in MIA. I'm pretty certain she is bi, so things will possibly get real interesting. I've never slept with her. The crazy part is that I hadn't spoken to her in months except for fathers day and it just kinda happened.

Gogo, I enjoy your message board and the contributors. The Sosua board seems to get weird to often. I hope some of those clowns stay out of here.

[Psychman]

You spent all that money to go to a disco where you can not speak the language. So far you have done nothing but dance. Buying pussy is not that hard. Com on man you ate boring me.The discos there are (supposedly) out of this world- it is totally on my bucket list to go. Who cares if he did not get laid if I had an amazing time- the goals is to enjoy like, not merely see how many times we can stick our dicks in something. That is easy. Of course, enjoyment is goes hand and hand with fucking, but for two nights I danced my ass off at Classicos (more than four hours each time) and just was so fucking content, I decided to go home alone, sleep like a baby, and fuck another day.

[Jaosousa]

I'll probably wait to write something in length until I return home.A webpage with Ibiza info: http://www.essentialibiza.com/clubs.asp.

[OldKool]

I enjoy dancing as much as any body. You can do that at home. The site is about fucking. I want trip advisor I will go there. Why go if you are only looking just me. If watching women floats your boat float on.

=Psychman; 1295478]The discos there are (supposedly) out of this world- it is totally on my bucket list to go. Who cares if he did not get laid if I had an amazing time- the goals is to enjoy like, not merely see how many times we can stick our dicks in something. That is easy. Of course, enjoyment is goes hand and hand with fucking, but for two nights I danced my ass off at Classicos (more than four hours each time) and just was so fucking content, I decided to go home alone, sleep like a baby, and fuck another day.[/QUOTE]

[Jaosousa]

Really? Where you live has hundreds of sexy women, dancing in skimpy outfits, till 6AM or later.

As far as your comment about trip advisor, that site doesn't tell you if a hotel is chica friendly or not. I believe when you first decided to go to Dom Rep, you probably asked about a chica friendly in Santo Domingo and someone told you about the Hotel Palacio.


I enjoy dancing as much as any body. You can do that at home. The site is about fucking. I want trip advisor I will go there. Why go if you are only looking just me. If watching women floats your boat float on.

=Psychman; 1295478]The discos there are (supposedly) out of this world- it is totally on my bucket list to go. Who cares if he did not get laid if I had an amazing time- the goals is to enjoy like, not merely see how many times we can stick our dicks in something. That is easy. Of course, enjoyment is goes hand and hand with fucking, but for two nights I danced my ass off at Classicos (more than four hours each time) and just was so fucking content, I decided to go home alone, sleep like a baby, and fuck another day.[/QUOTE]

[Mr Gogo]

The good thing about the GoGo forum is that we aren't confined to one area or topic. It's basically a freelance thread. The only rules are that we stay away from Race, Religion, Politics and abnormal sex topics. With that said, everybody's opinion is appreciated.

[SavePros321]

I enjoy dancing as much as any body. You can do that at home. The site is about fucking. I want trip advisor I will go there. Why go if you are only looking just me. If watching women floats your boat float on.Oldkool, you are missing the point of this (Gogo's) forum. We talk about whatever we want in here (talking about topics other than sex in the Sosua forum is actually what resulted in the creation of this forum by Admin). Some of our posts have nothing to do with sex (I just posted about Rodney King's death a few days ago) which is why AlwaysHorny 2 decided to post his reports in this forum. If he wanted it to be strictly about mongering (to benefit mongers) he would've have posted it in the Spain/Ibiza forum.

You should go back and read his very first post and prologue on his Spain trip. He talks about all of this.

Gogo's forum is mostly a hangout spot for us "old Sosua" heads and recent Sosua newbies that want to hear about the old Sosua or just need a break from the same recycled shit posted in the Sosua forum. If you happen to pick up any useful info here it is mostly (but not always) by accident. We all just "freestyle" up in here :).

[Psychman]

I enjoy dancing as much as any body. You can do that at home. The site is about fucking. I want trip advisor I will go there. Why go if you are only looking just me. If watching women floats your boat float on.

=Psychman; 1295478]The discos there are (supposedly) out of this world- it is totally on my bucket list to go. Who cares if he did not get laid if I had an amazing time- the goals is to enjoy like, not merely see how many times we can stick our dicks in something. That is easy. Of course, enjoyment is goes hand and hand with fucking, but for two nights I danced my ass off at Classicos (more than four hours each time) and just was so fucking content, I decided to go home alone, sleep like a baby, and fuck another day.[/QUOTE]This site is not just about fucking; it is about the adeventure of traveling and enjoying women, in a variety of ways. To each his own; not everyone wants point and shoot. There are many ways to have adventure with women while traveling. Enjoy your way- God knows I enjoy mine.

[Tempoecorto]

The good thing about the GoGo forum is that we aren't confined to one area or topic. It's basically a freelance thread. The only rules are that we stay away from Race, Religion, Politics and abnormal sex topics. With that said, everybody's opinion is appreciated.Come on, give me a break. Once you have excluded all those (not the abnormal stuff. Whatever that is) , what else is there left to speak of? LOL.

[Mr Gogo]

A few guys have recently departed Sosua somewhat jaded, so lets set the record straight. Gogos top 10.

1) If you don't like pussy, don't go to Sosua.

2) If you don't like noise, beggars and people, don't go to Sosua.

3) If you want to play golf, don't go to Sosua.

4) If you want a casa where girls fuck 20 guys a day, don't go to Sosua.

5) If you want a tour bus for attractions, don't go to Sosua.

6) If you can't say "NO" and move on, don't go to Sosua.

7) If every peso means the world to you, don't go to Sosua.

8) If pretty, hot Latinas scare you, don't go to Sosua.

9) If women of different shades scare you don't go to Sosua.

10) If your not looking for the party, don't go to Sosua.

[Mr Gogo]

Come on, give me a break. Once you have excluded all those (not the abnormal stuff. Whatever that is) , what else is there left to speak of? LOL.How about girls, relationships, places, romance, clubs, prices, hotels, failures, successes, safety, videos, pictures, do's and don'ts, and for you and Frannie, Mark Twain adventures LOL.

[SavePros321]

This photo has been floating around FB recently (recently for me at least). I love it! True to form.

[MiamiHeatLuver]

Mr G, still partying from last night! HEAT HEAT HEAT HEAT HEAT HEAT HEAT HEAT!!!

[Tempoecorto]

This photo has been floating around FB recently (recently for me at least). I love it! True to form.Who drew that... Bill Cosby? LOL.

You are being provocative. Again! But Gogo says, you are just posting for the sake of information and he does not want "scary" conversation, lest there is "flaming". Amen!

[Jarmondy]

A few guys have recently departed Sosua somewhat jaded, so lets set the record straight. Gogos top 10.

1) If you don't like pussy, don't go to Sosua.

2) If you don't like noise, beggars and people, don't go to Sosua.

3) If you want to play golf, don't go to Sosua.

4) If you want a casa where girls fuck 20 guys a day, don't go to Sosua.

5) If you want a tour bus for attractions, don't go to Sosua.

6) If you can't say "NO" and move on, don't go to Sosua.

7) If every peso means the world to you, don't go to Sosua.

8) If pretty, hot Latinas scare you, don't go to Sosua.

9) If women of different shades scare you don't go to Sosua.

10) If your not looking for the party, don't go to Sosua.You so right gogo I see alot of people complain about sosua because of the girls and the music all I can say is what the f. They doing and sosua they could of pick somewhere else to go because the girls and the party are the main reason I go to Sosua every other month.

[SavePros321]

How many of us started out as "Gringo Joe", lol? Very interesting and entertaining read for those of us marking off the days on our calendar until our next trip and escape from sex prison. Enjoy!

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Originally posted by Revere in the Santo Domingo forum:

Gringo Joe

This is interesting read in Dominican Today:

Joe Mclean was a regular middle-aged, blue-collar, New York city guy with the standard credits on his areésumé'- 23 years married. 5 years divorced. 2 kids on child-support, mortgage payments on a house he wasn't allowed to live in, and a boring futureless job with 12 years left to suffer at before mandatory retirement.

His love life consisted of porno dvd rentals and fantasies. His only actual physical encounter since his divorce was the time two years ago when he won $500 in the state lottery, took his co-workers to Brewski's, the local gin-mill, got roaring drunk and indulged himself with a working girl in his car parked in the alley behind the saloon. He thinks he enjoyed it, (at least he's convinced himself it was fun, to rationalize the expense) , but his memory of the experience is foggy at best, he was so very drunk.

Meeting women for the ordinary Joes of today's modern* North American culture is no easy task. Talk to a woman at the workplace and you could have a sexual-harassment charge added to your resume. There was the singles bar scene, way too expensive for Joe, the local church dances, way too boring for Joe. He tried the local topless club one time, he watched marks stuffing bills into g-strings, whispering deals for lap-dances, spending cash like water. He could spend a 2 week pay check in an hour or two in a place like that.

Someone told him that some of the girls who danced in those clubs could earn over a $1, 000 dollars a night! Even without having sex! Joe wondered when go-go girls started making more money than brain surgeons; it must have happened when he was married, he certainly wasn't paying attention to much back then. Poor Joe. He needed a change, he needed some fun, he needed a woman, he needed.

Then, the Gods of Fate gave Joe Maclean a break. They sent him an angel, to guide his way, an angel in the form of Frankie Rosario. Frankie worked at the same company that Joe worked. His friends called him Frankie 'the Rose'. Every guy in the plant envied the Rose.

Frankie had no ex-wife, no mortgage, no kids, no responsibilities to anyone or anything but his own personal pleasure. Joe took the subway to work, Frankie rode his Harley when the weather was nice, his BMW when it wasn't. Joe had the special in the cafeteria for lunch, (when he could afford it) , the Rose had a steak across the street in the Clubhouse Restaurant where the management ate. Joe had never even* talked to the Rose, until the Gods of Fate intervened.

Joe was riding the subway home to another boring night of t. V. And a frozen dinner when who of all people sat down beside him, The Rose himself.

'Hey I know you', the Rose said, 'You work the forklift near the loading dock, same plant as me, no? I'm Frankie Rosario, and you? ' Frankie's hand was out, Joe never seen one before, but he could swear the Rose had a manicure. They shook hands, Joe introduced himself, then the Rose talked, and talked, and Joe got an education, and an inspiration that would change his life, all in a 45 minute subway ride.

The Rose wasn't shy, he was on the subway because his Harley had a fuel problem, no time to deal with it now, he had a date tonight in the D. R. So he had to get home quick. Joe said he never heard of a bar called D. R, and Frankie roared with laughter. 'The D. R. Means the Dominican Republic, the most beautiful girls in the world, a quick flight, a hotel for the weekend, and a different girl every night costs less than a prom night here in New York. '

Joe was bright enough to realize that he may never get a chance to glean info like this again, so he pried everything he could about the D. R. From the Rose, he even took notes. He became obsessed, he spent all weekend finding out anything he could, flight costs, hotels, everything Frankie told him appeared to be true. Frankie the Rose had even given Joe a list:* Fly to the capital Santo Domingo.

Taxi to the Zona Colonial, stay at the Mundo Hotel, or the Palo, they were 'chica friendly. '

'But I don't speak Spanish' Joe whined to Frankie.

'You mean you want a woman to talk to? ' the Rose asked with incredulity. Then they both snickered like schoolboys.

Joe booked his first weekend flight of his life the next week.

It was the birth of Gringo Joe, he would never be the same again.

(PART 1 OF 2)

[SavePros321]

originally posted by revere in the santo domingo forum:

the captain and his crew run ship.

part 2 of 2.

it was a time of firsts for joe maclean. he got his first passport, rushed it through in two weeks. he was sitting in a seat on american airlines bound for santo domingo, his first flight, anywhere, ever. it would be his first time leaving the usa it was the first time he made phoney excuses to his ex, his kids, and his boss, about needing some personal time off. he was travelling incognito, a clandestine operation.

there would be more 'firsts' coming fast for joe during the next few days. he was scared, excited, and completely re-energized, living a live movie, no, that wasn't it, he was alive, for the first time in his life, alive!

two weeks ago, joe managed to meet with frankie the rose a second time. joe wanted a lot more info about the d. r, and the rose was happy to oblige. this time, he had a surprise for joe, pictures!

pictures of frankie, at a table in a street café, with a stunning, lanky, black girl. frankie in a bar with two gorgeous latino bombshells draped all over him. all of them sporting big toothy smiles. * then, the best one of all, a ravishing olive-skinned beauty with long silky black hair attired only in a bra and g-string stretched out like a cat on a hotel bed, waiting.

'what's her name? ' asked joe.

'her? can't remember, ' said the rose.

how he could not remember the most beautiful woman's in the world name, thought joe. it was too much for him to fathom, he grilled frankie for every bit if information he could, the rose was accommodating, and they made a list.

now, sitting on the plane with anxious anticipation, joe dug the list out of his pocket and went over it again for the hundredth time.

checked luggage: a carton of condoms. 6 toothbrushes, (1 for him. 5 for 'guests'). an assortment of gifts, lipsticks, mascaras, nail polishes, cheap perfumes. there were numerous makeup items joe didn't even know what they were for. the salesgirl at the wal-mart recommended them as 'must-haves. ' finally, a variety of bras, panties, g-strings, panty hose etc. (frankie told joe these were the most fun to give away, because the girls had to try them on to make sure they fit, and they loved to model them for the gift-giver).

the aircraft cabin was cool as ice, but joe was sweating the good sweat, dripping on the list. an announcement on the intercom brought joe back to reality.

'fasten your seatbelts ladies and gentlemen, we are on final approach, and will be landing in aero puerto de las americas in santo domingo in 5 minutes. '

joe breezed through customs and immigration with no worries, made his way through the surprisingly big modern airport and out the sliding glass doors into the stifling heat of santo domingo. * he was assaulted by taxi drivers immediately: 'hey joe, over here, cheap taxi to downtown' yelled a stout little fellow in shades. *

'no joe, here, here is the legal taxi, tourist taxi, over here! ' screamed a tall black man waving a laminated name-tag in his hand.

'don't listen to them joe, i'm ramon, speak good english, cheap rate', he'the already grabbed joe's suitcase, and with his other hand on joe's elbow, he was guiding joe out of the fray towards an old beat-up camry.

'1500 pesos to the zona colonial, ' croaked a nervous joe in a weak attempt to regain control of the situation.

'sure, this is a okay' replied a happy little ramon.

the toyota cranked up reluctantly and ramon coaxed it along and onto the highway towards the capital. joe's new shirt was already sopping wet in the heat. he hardly noticed, his eyes were absorbing a vista of 'firsts' all over the place. palm trees lined the boulevard, along with other fauna he'the never seen before, and the ocean, so blue, he could barely tell where the azure of the sea met the blue of the sky, they were almost as one. cars, trucks, buses, motorcycles and all kinds of wheeled relics fought for first place in a demolition derby type of driving, zipping in and out of lanes with no rules, roaring at breakneck speeds down the highway.

'what is your name? ' asked ramon, bringing joe's mind back to reality in the car. he noticed that his knuckles were white; he was gripping the dashboard so hard.

'my name? jesus, every taxi driver at the airport was yelling my name, you too! how the hell did you all know my name anyway? ' joe finally thought to ask.

'your name is really joe? ' asked ramon.

'of course it is, how the hell did everyone know? ' croaked joe, straining his neck this way and that trying to watch the mayhem on the road around him. ramon was now in hysterics, laughing and pounding on the steering wheel. an old truck full of 80lb. propane tanks with two kids in the back trying to keep them all upright cut them off at about 80 miles per hour.

'a friggin' rolling bomb! ' cried joe.

'we call all gringos joe at the airport' said ramon, ignoring his passenger's distress. we don't know anyone's name, we just fighting for the fare. '

'watch the road! ' squeaked joe.

'you really a joe? you the first real joe i know' boasted ramon. 'from now on, i call you gringo joe! '

gringo joe's attention was elsewhere; never could he have imagined a ride like this, and surviving. finally, they were off the highway, threading through the antique cobbled streets of the zona colonial. joe's heart had just begun to beat normally again, when ramon hit the brakes as a motorcycle ignoring a stop sign flew by the front of the car.

'did i really see four people on that little bike? ' joe asked. *

'five, if you count the baby on the handlebars. '* ramon replied, easy as the dominican breeze.

gringo joe checked safely into the mercure hotel on the conde', dashed up to his room to shower, change, and hopefully get back his wits. he was so frazzled, he could swear there was a pretty girl at the bar near the reception winking and flirting at him. never in his life had this happened before, could she really have been flirting with him? his head was spinning with adrenaline inspired intoxication, he couldn't shower and change fast enough. he read the list one more time while his hair was drying, took $150 dollars from his wallet to change, stashed all his valuables and passport in the room safe, inhaled a deep breath, and* rode the elevator down to the lobby to boldly go where no joe had gone before.

downstairs, he tried to act suave, bar or terrace? he sauntered over to the bar and ordered a cold beer. an icy cold 'presidente' was placed before him. it went down fast, better than a budweiser by a long shot. gringo joe realized he was starving, so he had another beer follow him out to a table on the terrace, and settled in to scan the menu, feeling like a real cosmopolitan. a man of the world. a steady stream of people strolled by his seat, cruising down the conde', a veritable live show. families, tourists in groups, camera laden with tour guides pointing things out. vendors selling everything from leather belts, dvd's, phone cards, jewellery, and countless other items. shoe-shine boys harried everyone, even if you wore flip-flops, they offered a shine. best of all, were the women, beautiful, slinky, high-heeled latina dolls of every shape, color, and style strolled the boulevard, just like frankie said they would. eye contact was everything. every girl joe looked at eyeballed him right back, smiling, and encouraging.

back home in new york if you made eye contact like that with a beautiful woman, their nose lifted in the air and they looked down at you with disdain as if saying 'how dare you check me out like that', even though they dressed intentionally to be checked out.

here, in the d. r, they looked back at you with a smile, as if to say, 'thank you for the eye-compliment. '

gringo joe was approached and said hello to by three women before he could even order his meal. by the time his food was served, he'the caved and was joined at the table by a petite olive skinned girl named jasmine, who spoke bad english but said good things. he bought her a glass of wine, he was a nervous wreck, not knowing what to do next.

he needn't have worried, jasmine could handle nervous, she was a sort of guide in her own way.

'did you get a nice room? ' she asked innocently. 'would you take me upstairs so i can see the view? ' she queried with carnal intent.

joe skipped dessert, threw money on the table to cover the bill, and headed north with jasmine in tow. she slowed him down, stopped by the reception to give them her i. d. joe hovered nervously, hands in his pockets, 'just going upstairs to show her the view. ' the words left his mouth before he could think.

the little fellow at the desk looked at joe, one eyebrow was straining up, trying to touch his hairline, 'sure you are' he said.

by the time joe got the curtains to open so she could see the 'view', (they could see the building across the street) , she was down to her bra and panties, and she calmly closed them again.

'you have a condom? ' joe was fumbling around in his bag now. 'ooo, she purred, perfume for me? '

there had been other firsts, but this first, was the real deal, gringo joe had finally arrived.

*gringo joe's afternoon adventure was fast and furious. jasmine was gone in 20 minutes, joe was sprawled on the bed as if he had been shot, $50 lighter in the pocket, but a big happy grin on his face. it had taken him longer to get the condom on than it needed to be there, jasmine turned him into a wild man. even if it was only a 2 minute wild man.

he wasn't going to risk going back to the terrace again, he decided to save his energy to check out one of the bars he had on 'the list'. his last thought before he dozed off was—god bless frankie the rose.

he slept hard, woke up at about 10 p. m, showered, and put on his 3rd shirt of the day. he went downstairs and asked the desk clerk to call the cell phone number ramon had given him.

he had barely finished his 'presidente' when ramóand's old camry was outside honking for him. he jumped in, and gave ramon the names of three bars on frankie's list.

'you sure this is your first time here? ' said ramon. 'you sure know the best places to go gringo joe'.

'i have friends' said joe, his ego getting bigger by the minute.

'i take you to the best one, and wait for you, ' said ramon knowingly. 'you won't be long in there'.

they reached the bar in less than 5 minutes. joe got out of the car and strolled bravely up a walkway, a half dozen women attired scantily lounged on each side smoking cigarettes, making little kissing sounds and low whistles. a doorman opened the entrance and joe was assailed by loud, bassy merengue' music. he slowed down to let his eyes adjust to the dim lights, it was a huge bar. there were at least 2 dozen tables with surround couches and intimate lighting. only a couple of tables were occupied. a long bar that could seat 20 stretched along the back wall, no-one was at the bar.

there was not very many customers, but there was no shortage of women. victoria's secret could publish 10 catalogues with just the womanhood in this one bar. every size, color, style, of girl that any man could imagine lingered all over the place.

gringo joe, (not so brave now) , headed for the safety of the bar. he'the barely sat down, when they swarmed him. he was surrounded. speechless. he was drowning in perfume, and the sweet smell of sex. the barman tapped him on the shoulder, breaking the spell. joe heard him saying, 'take it easy amigo, have a drink, you only have to pick the one you want, then the others go away'. he said this so casually.

'presidente' muttered joe, how could he ever decide? too many, way way too many, a buffet!

*finally, joe picked out a girl, and she said, 'what about my best friend? we do everything together. ' the barman explained the house rules, and joe, dazed, weak in the knees, paid $200 dollars at the bar and left with marcia and christie, one on each arm, and fell into the backseat of ramóand's car.

ramon was right, he wasn't in there too long.

that was the first day and night of gringo joe's d. r. weekend. the next 2 nights were more of the same. he was like a kid in the candy shop, making up for wasted years living like a monk. joe would never be the joe maclean he had been again. he was gringo joe now.

he was back on the flight for home, $700 dollars poorer, with 8 sweaty shirts in his bag, yet he was already plotting his next trip. calculating how much overtime he could get, how he could save a little on expenses the next time, from what he'the learned on this adventure.

his co-workers were curious at how joe changed. he seemed to walk with more determination. he seemed so much more positive, a lot less miserable.

all of a sudden joe had something in common with frankie the rose, and they were spotted occasionally conspiring together at the clubhouse grill across the street from work. when he talked to his ex on the phone about the mortgage and child-support checks, he was in good spirits and always polite and accommodating. this alone would make any wife suspicious. a secretary from work spotted joe one day lingering in the women's cosmetic department at the wal-mart, and he had a cart full of woman's lingerie. *

joe already had his next trip to the d. r. booked, only 5 more weeks to go. he could do 5 weeks waiting easy, easy as the dominican breeze, after all, he'the waited a lifetime for his first trip.

the strangest thing that his co-workers noticed about joe though, was that for some unknown reason to them, he was always whistling merengue and bachata music as he drove the forklift around the loading bay, like he wasn't even there at all, as if he were somewhere else.

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[Xxxphree]

Originally posted by Revere in the Santo Domingo forum:

The captain and his crew run ship.

Part 2 of 2.

It was a time of firsts for Joe Maclean. He got his first passport, rushed it through in two weeks. He was sitting in a seat on American Airlines bound for Santo Domingo, his first flight, anywhere, ever. It would be his first time...This story is so real it makes me want international travel again so badly! Way to get free man!

[AlwaysHorny 2]

Oldkool,

I understand what you are saying to one extent, but I didn't create my handle for shits and giggles.

Mr. Gogo including the majority of the posters approve of my report. As far as fucking, I probably could have fucked on day one if I lowered my standards. Using your dance logic. Why even leave the Chi when I can get pussy for free? There is a certain cultural and historical experience that I am receiving that has nothing to do with mongering.

You sound quite opinionated about MY vacation. I have a business card right now that I received from a fine specimen at the club, but the novelty is not worth*$200 Euro / hr. Besides, if I want a nut these days I'd rather jag off than have a sexual experience that is nothing special and all business.

As far as the music. No disrespect but stay in your lane. I'm from Chicago (the house creator and capital of the world). I grew up in that era and the music here is nuts and you can wild the fuck out however you like without judgment. It's a liberating experience and age doesn't matter. I'll post a video when I get home.

In general, fucking has changed for me. We all travel different paths and at different times so the likelihood of being in the same "place" is nada. If I were sixty years old, maybe I would be throwing cash around like no tomorrow because in reality it's not like the fees here are not doable. Especially when you get the chance to touch a 21 year old. I get that.

However, I seek a certain set of criteria when choosing a woman to bed. Not to be conceited, but my dick is not available just because a woman wants to fuck me. I know I'm getting toward the end of a certain stage in life. I don't want to be the last one to know the game has passed me by. I don't want to become an empty shell incapable of having an emotional connection with women. They do have much more to offer us than pussy.

I'm no saint. I have multiple "girlfriends" at home and I was able to add a thick little African chick here the other day for free. I don't know about you, but the experience is soo much better for me when I feel the woman has genuine interest in me AND I'm equally attracted to her. I like hot, buttered, passionate sex. I would have stayed married if I wanted to continue to PAY for sex with someone just going through the motions.

I do know one thing. I am soo amped for the DR. Many women are beautiful in Ibiza, but it is way too much flirting and not as much hooking up as you would assume. I'm in day 6 with 3 days left. When I write my report, I will choose a couple funny or interesting stories. Including FUCKING! LOL

[Carrib]

I am anxiously awaiting your report, I have never made it to Ibiza and I love house music. A few years back I travelled to Southport England for the Southport weekender, look it up. There are similar international house music festivals in the south of Brazil and someone told me about Croatia.

I too have "evolved" from my sport fucking days in Brazil, I can still go with the best of them but after years in the hobby I find myself seeking more GFE type experiences. I have no issues going to bed alone even on a weekend trip to the DR as I refuse to, as you say, simply stick my dick into anything. The notion of fucking just to do it doesn't appeal to me any longer and to each his own but I don't travel thousands of miles to pay for mediocre sex with an avg looking pro. I can stay home and fuck average looking women for free. Not to say that I have not lowered my standards on a given night or two but I usually shoot for the stars.

I am currently talking or working on 4 non pros (thank you BBmessenger!) , one of them I have been working on for months and I am getting close whereas another goes into I am not a puta rants everytime I try to talk about sex. Its cool as she keeps me on my toes, she demands to be respected and wants romantic flirtations rather than crude advances

These women are pretty and intelligent, two speak some English and another also speaks italian, one has a banging fat ass and the last one has a pretty face but muy flaca. They help me with my spanish as I don't have to struggle as much to communicate with them. I can actually discuss a wide range of topics with them and hold intellingent conversations. One actually has a gringo boyfriend but is flirting like hell with me but no ass thus far.
I will keep you posted.

[Mr Gogo]

AH2 and Carrib thanks for posting. My four uncles who have been coming to the DR for years are a mixed bag. Two preach that" Its all about the pussy" and hardly ever have the same girls. They didn't take time to learn the language. They almost always wind up with some hardcore puta. They have no respect for the culture and view the whole trip as just a vacation. They are always preaching how much of "A player" they are.

The other two speak perfect Spanish and have normal girls everywhere. The girls always seem happy when they are with them. And all of the girls are beautiful. They don't have time to brag because they are about the experience. They spend money and have a good time. The two " Players" beg the two who speak spanish to hang out with them to get leftovers.

My point is just sex takes away from the true DR experience, you don't enjoy the full meal, you're just having desert.

My last trip I banged a couple Sosua veterans who I never wanted to bang. They knew my girlfriends and they had high mileage so I figured why bother. I basically did it for the chance to check them off my Sosua list, plus being a seasoned pro of many years I wanted to take them for a test drive. Even though they were nice and gave me a 1000p deal, it was still not worth the money. There was a lot of acting and fake cumming. Whenever sex is ""rushed and"buisness like", usually you don't get a genuine experience because you haven't given enough time and yourself for her to understand that its not buisiness.

[AlwaysHorny 2]

No thank you. We both share the same mentality. I only wish I was on this at 25 years old!

I think I'm going to plan my next major trip to Eastern Europe. Something that involves Copenhagen, Frankfurt, Switzetland! , and maybe Prague or Amsterdam for the novelty. It is good because I have something to research and look forward to. I also want to do the world a favor and let them see an AA that is far from the shit they get from TV. Some of the people act amazed by me. Kinda cool. BTW, I have not me one other AA. Male or female. Blaze trails baby!

I will find somewhere to store your suggestions. I'm going to try and bag as much free young good pussy before it is all cash transactions.


I am anxiously awaiting your report, I have never made it to Ibiza and I love house music. A few years back I travelled to Southport England for the Southport weekender, look it up. There are similar international house music festivals in the south of Brazil and someone told me about Croatia.

I too have "evolved" from my sport fucking days in Brazil, I can still go with the best of them but after years in the hobby I find myself seeking more GFE type experiences. I have no issues going to bed alone even on a weekend trip to the DR as I refuse to, as you say, simply stick my dick into anything. The notion of fucking just to do it doesn't appeal to me any longer and to each his own but I don't travel thousands of miles to pay for mediocre sex with an avg looking pro. I can stay home and fuck average looking women for free. Not to say that I have not lowered my standards on a given night or two but I usually shoot for the stars.

I am currently talking or working on 4 non pros (thank you BBmessenger!) , one of them I have been working on for months and I am getting close whereas another goes into I am not a puta rants everytime I try to talk about sex. Its cool as she keeps me on my toes, she demands to be respected and wants romantic flirtations rather than crude advances

These women are pretty and intelligent, two speak some English and another also speaks italian, one has a banging fat ass and the last one has a pretty face but muy flaca. They help me with my spanish as I don't have to struggle as much to communicate with them. I can actually discuss a wide range of topics with them and hold intellingent conversations. One actually has a gringo boyfriend but is flirting like hell with me but no ass thus far.

I will keep you posted.

[AlwaysHorny 2]

This is delayed.

I'm drunk. It is 5 am in Ibiza. This is the end of day 9 all together and the earliest I have ever come in since I have been in Spain. It's ironic this would happen as soon as my female company came down. She is in the shower now and I probably won't get to type all my thoughts out.

I just had to interrupt my schedule of stories to quickly explain this night. I'm soo sick right now. I'm wondering why I even invited this ***** to be with me. She is getting on my mf'and nerves. So damn insecure, petty, and vain for no reason.

To her credit, she has fucked the shit out of me and the pussy is good, but we just don't click. I'm being a trooper so I don't spoil both of our trips, but I'm only two nights in with her and it is torture to not be myself right now. Damn, never bring sand to the beach. I just made the decision to not plan any days with a previous DR chica when I visit. Why deal with the hassle?

Here it is. Some people might think I'm crazy. The woman that visited is very attractive and maybe she even raised my profile, but my vacation heated up from 50 degrees to 1000 right before she got here. I can't wait to put my thoughts together and share those experiences. I only invited her because I thought she was more adventurous and would be open to a threesome or watching me fuck another chick, but it seems like I misread things and she really likes me and is trying to set the foundation for some relationship. It ain't happening.

This night was soo frustrating. You guys were right. I needed to smile more, engage people more because it seems that a lot of them have never seen a black american. It was soo much flirting going on last night. I really felt like I was in my zone but I couldn't act on shit.

The most painful experience happened about an hour before we left the club. I went to the bar to get drinks. I notice two 25ish white girls to my side. Introductions were made and I found out they were from Switzerland. They were both hot! I made the convo brief but the energy with one of the chicks was incredible and I knew that was mine if I could only act on it.

I snapped out of it, kissed her on the cheek toward the corner of her mouth as we hugged. I looked at my girl and she either pretended not to see or played it off, but when I get to her she is trying to kiss me all deeply. Frontin'. I wasn't down with that and she kept trying more and more to put on a show and in the midst of it talking about how fly she is and there no other female could compete with her. Yeah right. Buzz kill.

So the two white girls eventually make it in my area but we are separated by a few people. The one girl is devouring me with her eyes. Guys try to dance with them from time to time but they just spin away from them. I also noticed that the second girl is equally staring me down now. Could these chicks really be that focused on me? I think I can have them both I was trying to be smooth about my eye contact and flirting because my girl is getting jealous and I can feel it. She even tries to tell me to go kiss a girl that didn't even look my way. Of course, I ain't on that. Then she says to pick out a woman that I do want. It was just a ploy to see if I would go over to the Swiss chicks.

Now she is ready to leave. I wanted soo bad to kick her to the curb, but I know she spent a grip on her flight so I just have to deal with it. As we begin to leave, the one Swiss chick grabs my arm. I am soo drunk that I just do what comes naturally and spin to her. My girl was already walking ahead of me at a fast pace so I don't think she noticed that I was not behind her.

Instantly, me and the Swiss chick wrap in a tight embrace and our tongues are down each others throats. Even in my highly inebriated state I have the sense to not cause a scene. I broke away from the kiss and told her I loved her as I walked away. An opportunity missed. I got back to the room and replayed the night in my mind. I wanted to cry. It hurts! Seriously! It is Saturday now. I have to put one more experience together. I leave early Tuesday so I need to shake this Swiss chick from my mind and shake this DC chick for the night! It is getting more crowded and crazier by the day. *

I have some pics to share. I don't know how to do it from my phone. For those who just must know fucking reports, it is now one white German, one Kenyan transplant from Germany, one South African, one Serbian, and my DC visitor. More details to follow. These reports are tough using the iPhone and it takes time. I probably won't post for at least a few days unless something extraordinary happens.

[OldKool]

I understand where you are coming from. We are at different places in our lives. Sport fucking is not a big turn on for me. Anyone can buy pussy. I also like the illusion that the female wants to fuck me. However at 57 this is becoming a lot harder to accomplish. GFE is the way I preferr to roll. Now my issue is when I leave sex prison I want to fuck. You are spending some really good money and have not busted a nut. I was thinking this was a sex quide. I was informed on Gogo there is more. I stand corrected. The women we talk to online are not stupid they know what we want and are willing. If you meet any of the 4 women you are talking to they will fuck your brains out. For most sex is the lingua franks they have.

They know why you are there. They are not vigins and you have more going for you then the last gy who got the pussy. We all have our fantasy. I have a 24 year old non pro I am fucking. Total fantacy.


Oldkool,

I understand what you are saying to one extent, but I didn't create my handle for shits and giggles.

Mr. Gogo including the majority of the posters approve of my report. As far as fucking, I probably could have fucked on day one if I lowered my standards. Using your dance logic. Why even leave the Chi when I can get pussy for free? There is a certain cultural and historical experience that I am receiving that has nothing to do with mongering.

You sound quite opinionated about MY vacation. I have a business card right now that I received from a fine specimen at the club, but the novelty is not worth*$200 Euro / hr. Besides, if I want a nut these days I'd rather jag off than have a sexual experience that is nothing special and all business.

As far as the music. No disrespect but stay in your lane. I'm from Chicago (the house creator and capital of the world). I grew up in that era and the music here is nuts and you can wild the fuck out however you like without judgment. It's a liberating experience and age doesn't matter. I'll post a video when I get home.

In general, fucking has changed for me. We all travel different paths and at different times so the likelihood of being in the same "place" is nada. If I were sixty years old, maybe I would be throwing cash around like no tomorrow because in reality it's not like the fees here are not doable. Especially when you get the chance to touch a 21 year old. I get that.

However, I seek a certain set of criteria when choosing a woman to bed. Not to be conceited, but my dick is not available just because a woman wants to fuck me. I know I'm getting toward the end of a certain stage in life. I don't want to be the last one to know the game has passed me by. I don't want to become an empty shell incapable of having an emotional connection with women. They do have much more to offer us than pussy.

I'm no saint. I have multiple "girlfriends" at home and I was able to add a thick little African chick here the other day for free. I don't know about you, but the experience is soo much better for me when I feel the woman has genuine interest in me AND I'm equally attracted to her. I like hot, buttered, passionate sex. I would have stayed married if I wanted to continue to PAY for sex with someone just going through the motions.

I do know one thing. I am soo amped for the DR. Many women are beautiful in Ibiza, but it is way too much flirting and not as much hooking up as you would assume. I'm in day 6 with 3 days left. When I write my report, I will choose a couple funny or interesting stories. Including FUCKING! LOL

[Revere]

Carrib what I like to do with a new girl is talk about what I want in life. I get deep and say I want someone I can travel the world with as traveling is important to me. I ask them do you like traveling and most do, but they do not have a passport or a visa so you bring it right back to the DR and say if I come I do not want to do the same thing you always do. I want to go somewhere nice with you where we can go to the beach during the day and go out at night and just have fun together. Then ask the girl where would you want to go if I came to see you. See what she says. If she mentions another area on the Island away from where she lives, I think you get her away and close the deal. Emphasize, it has to be different and away from where you live. Make it a romantic getaway for a day or two.


I am anxiously awaiting your report, I have never made it to Ibiza and I love house music. A few years back I travelled to Southport England for the Southport weekender, look it up. There are similar international house music festivals in the south of Brazil and someone told me about Croatia.

I too have "evolved" from my sport fucking days in Brazil, I can still go with the best of them but after years in the hobby I find myself seeking more GFE type experiences. I have no issues going to bed alone even on a weekend trip to the DR as I refuse to, as you say, simply stick my dick into anything. The notion of fucking just to do it doesn't appeal to me any longer and to each his own but I don't travel thousands of miles to pay for mediocre sex with an avg looking pro. I can stay home and fuck average looking women for free. Not to say that I have not lowered my standards on a given night or two but I usually shoot for the stars.

I am currently talking or working on 4 non pros (thank you BBmessenger!) , one of them I have been working on for months and I am getting close whereas another goes into I am not a puta rants everytime I try to talk about sex. Its cool as she keeps me on my toes, she demands to be respected and wants romantic flirtations rather than crude advances

These women are pretty and intelligent, two speak some English and another also speaks italian, one has a banging fat ass and the last one has a pretty face but muy flaca. They help me with my spanish as I don't have to struggle as much to communicate with them. I can actually discuss a wide range of topics with them and hold intellingent conversations. One actually has a gringo boyfriend but is flirting like hell with me but no ass thus far.

I will keep you posted.

[SavePros321]

Carrib what I like to do with a new girl is talk about what I want in life. I get deep and say I want someone I can travel the world with as traveling is important to me. I ask them do you like traveling and most do, but they do not have a passport or a visa so you bring it right back to the DR and say if I come I do not want to do the same thing you always do. I want to go somewhere nice with you where we can go to the beach during the day and go out at night and just have fun together. Then ask the girl where would you want to go if I came to see you. See what she says. If she mentions another area on the Island away from where she lives, I think you get her away and close the deal. Emphasize, it has to be different and away from where you live. Make it a romantic getaway for a day or two.

Now that's what I like to call "Good Game"! Very suave approach Revere. I know you and Carrib mostly do your thing in SD, but this same approach could be used for guys looking for GFE in Sousa.

You would have to be willing to take her out of her element (the Puta atmosphere of Sosua) to someplace like Cabarete for the day and work your magic. But I think a lot of guys fall flat in this regard because they forget that beyond physical attraction the two of you still have to connect mentally.

Different guys have different ideas about GFE: Some equate it to only meaning "bare back sex" or "dfk". Others look at it more as having someone to hold intelligent conversations with, take to dinner and go for walks on the beach (which may later lead to BBFS with DFK, LOL). But this may work better with a chica closer to your age. Think about it: what can a 50yr old man discuss intelligently with an 18yr old chica? Justin Beber?

I've found that GFE works better when I am dealing with chicas older than me or just a few years younger. I have run into a lot of (mentally) mature 25-28yr olds. Young chicas (18-24) are strictly for sport fucking, LOL!

[SavePros321]

Originally posted by Revere in the Santo Domingo forum:

Gringo Joe.

This is interesting read in Dominican Today:

Meeting women for the ordinary Joes of today's modern* North American culture is no easy task. Talk to a woman at the workplace and you could have a sexual-harassment charge added to your resume....

Back home in New York if you made eye contact like that with a beautiful woman, their nose lifted in the air and they looked down at you with disdain as if saying 'how dare you check me out like that', even though they dressed intentionally to be checked out.

Here, in the D. R, they looked back at you with a smile, as if to say, 'thank you for the eye-compliment. 'I remember my first few trips to the DR that this was my first encounter with women who upon greeting them turn their faces to the side in order for you to give them a kiss on the cheek. I was completely thrown off by this. The first few times I stood there frozen solid not knowing what to do. Then I was like "oh, she wants me to kiss her on the cheek...is it safe?" Back in sex prison you would get a slap to the face for trying to kiss a woman on the cheek, and the sexual assault charges and restraining order would be waiting for you in your mailbox before you even made it home that day, LOL!

Sexual Harassment charges in the work place are no joke. I had a friend who got hit with it for making a harmless remark to a female co-worker. Turns out this chick had pulled the same shit in the past though, and the claims she made turned out to be bogus. My friend fought back by saying the experience was "traumatizing" for him and the company ended up giving him a shit load of time off from work with full pay to keep his ass from taking them to court. You could probably guess where he spent all of this time off :D.

[Frannie]

Think about it: what can a 50yr old man discuss intelligently with an 18yr old chica? Justin Beber?If he can't even get the name of a currently popular singer right, there are probably very few subjects he can discuss intelligently.


I've found that GFE works better when I am dealing with chicas older than me.You won't say that when you are 60!

[SavePros321]

If he can't even get the name of a currently popular singer right, there are probably very few subjects he can discuss intelligently.My bad, Justin Beaver, I mean Bieber (which goes to my original point, LOL).

(P.S.: He's only popular with people who think he's popular; i.e. "If a tree falls in the woods and no one is there to hear it... ;))


You won't say that when you are 60!Touché!

[Carrib]

I cannot emphasize how beneficial learning the language is to both mongering and chasing non pros. One girl asked me once "What do you know about my country?" I rattled off a few points and told her that I was still somewhat ignorant of the culture and wanted to learn more. She was impressed. My spanish still sucks and I use that to get out of trouble "perdon mi malo español mi amor"

AH2 I would place Prague on top of that list, the Koruni is about 20 to 1 right now and I have heard good things about the Czech republic. The greek isles like Mykononos are part of the party circuit to which Ibiza belongs. Thanks for the report man and yes you brought sand to the beach but I know what you were thinking, cute ass guarnteed pussy turned out to be a cock blocker ah well.

Savepros and revere. One thing that hinders me is that I am not an asshole and I try not to play or lie these women, so I miss opportunities. I don't promise marriage to a poor girl who is geniunely looking for a husband but I show them a good time and oftentimes I get at least a BBBJ.

I am traveling but I will be in a hotel later and will post more.

[Revere]

Cool. Cannot wait to hear your reports!


I cannot emphasize how beneficial learning the language is to both mongering and chasing non pros. One girl asked me once "What do you know about my country?" I rattled off a few points and told her that I was still somewhat ignorant of the culture and wanted to learn more. She was impressed. My spanish still sucks and I use that to get out of trouble "perdon mi malo español mi amor"

AH2 I would place Prague on top of that list, the Koruni is about 20 to 1 right now and I have heard good things about the Czech republic. The greek isles like Mykononos are part of the party circuit to which Ibiza belongs. Thanks for the report man and yes you brought sand to the beach but I know what you were thinking, cute ass guarnteed pussy turned out to be a cock blocker ah well.

Savepros and revere. One thing that hinders me is that I am not an asshole and I try not to play or lie these women, so I miss opportunities. I don't promise marriage to a poor girl who is geniunely looking for a husband but I show them a good time and oftentimes I get at least a BBBJ.

I am traveling but I will be in a hotel later and will post more.

[Mr Enternational]

I called one of my main girls (non-pro) in STI last night. A guy (Dominicano) answered her phone and asked who I was. I told him my name then he asked from where. I didn't answer but instead asked him who he was. He passed the phone to her and I asked who the guy was. She said my husband. I said okay. Goodbye.

A couple of months ago I looked for her on facebook and she had pictures of her and a guy hugged up and her profile said engaged. I clicked to add her as a friend. When she accepted all the pictures of the guy were gone and her profile said single. LOL.

Right as I was about to post this she called me and apologized. I told her that if she had a man it was okay. Why didn't she just let me know. She said she was afraid. She asked if she would be able to see me again when I am down there.

It just goes to show, if a DOMINICAN guy who lives there can't keep a chick to himself how the hell do you guys who don't live there expect to do it?

[SavePros321]

It just goes to show, if a DOMINICAN guy who lives there can't keep a chick to himself how the hell do you guys who don't live there expect to do it?Food for thought, LOL!

[Mr Enternational]

If you don't know Spanish, Learn!

Me a dolido quizás mas que a ti esta situacióand no sabes por lo que e estado pasando en estos últimos meses, me vi en la nesecidad de estar con un compañero pues tu no puedes estar conmigo.

Sabes que siempre te llevare en mi corazón y si estas dispuesto a estar solo conmigo dimelo y lo dejare todo por ti.

[Tempoecorto]

If you don't know Spanish, Learn!

Me a dolido quizás mas que a ti esta situacióand no sabes por lo que e estado pasando en estos últimos meses, me vi en la nesecidad de estar con un compañero pues tu no puedes estar conmigo.

Sabes que siempre te llevare en mi corazóand why si estas dispuesto a estar solo conmigo dimelo why lo dejare todo por ti.The "presumptive" main girl in Santiago sent you that, I suppose, in the aftermath of your phone conversation? Gracias tambien para compartir tu vida privada en este lugar.

[Tempoecorto]

I think I'm going to plan my next major trip to Eastern Europe. Something that involves Copenhagen, Frankfurt, Switzetland! , and maybe Prague or Amsterdam for the novelty.Sorry to bust your balls but had to point out (so the others also get to clear their geography). The only place that is "East Europe" in the list above, is Prague, pronounced Praha locally, capital of the Czech Republic...the rest belong to "Western Europe".
Going to East Europe is not a bad idea, Poland, Romania, Hungary are all interesting from a specific viewpoint but they were a lot cheaper and greener 15 years back. Sob!

[Tempoecorto]

My bad, Justin Beaver, I mean Bieber (which goes to my original point, LOL).

(P. S. : He's only popular with people who think he's popular; I. E."If a tree falls in the woods and no one is there to hear it.)

Touché!That was nice Savepro321. Playing with the right spirit, eager beaver, I mean Bieber.

[Tempoecorto]

Savepros and revere. One thing that hinders me is that I am not an asshole and I try not to play or lie these women, so I miss opportunities. I don't promise marriage to a poor girl who is geniunely looking for a husband but I show them a good time and oftentimes I get at least a BBBJ.I think you do the right thing. You may miss "opportunities" but your conscience is clear. To lie to bed someone is not dignified, especially when you may hurt someone.

[Mr Enternational]

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhgJW443rD7iee23N1

"Almost anything can be ordered online and then delivered to your house these days, including a beautiful college student, legally, and for the right price. Tommy. 63, and Monte. 21, have been together for two years, and they refer to each other has "sugar daddy" and "sugar baby.". When Monte needs money, Tommy is her go-to guy. He said he drops about $5, 000 on her each month"

[Revere]

I think you do the right thing. You may miss "opportunities" but your conscience is clear. To lie to bed someone is not dignified, especially when you may hurt someone.I agree with all points. My point is if you like the girl take her away for a day and have a great time. By no means would I promise her anymore than a great weekend. For me, I like getting a girl out of her element. I have gone to Punta Cana two times now with a girl and it has been a lot of fun. It was a nice change of pace. Also, I took a girl to barcelo in juan dolio for a day and she had a blast she was so excited to see there Michael Jackson show. I can just bang a girl but I am more of a romantic now. But to each his own, I cannot be mad if someone just wants to bang a girl. I want to have fun. It is my money either way.

[Blk Big Bootyluv]

They pays more for the convenience factor, right? We feel it economically viable to catch a flight, for a minimum of 2. 5 to 3 hours (for some of us 10) , to DR, Thailand or

Wherever and bang $40-100 chicas. I will venture to guess many of us are no multimillionaires like these guys on the video.

To be honest, if I could I would do it SIMILAR, to these guys. Big house, personal driver, successful business, the law on my side, not like DR where PN try to jam you up

First time they spot an opening.

Hilarious 6:45-6:50 crying about being a hooker LOL.

They way I see it, America is starting to loosen up on prostitution with more reports / videos like this. Where I live, this is the new hot thing friends are telling me about.

But they lie about being these guys, I think the girls know it and are really working girls masquerading as college girls, in my neck of the woods.

My $.02.

Peace

BBL.


http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhgJW443rD7iee23N1

"Almost anything can be ordered online and then delivered to your house these days, including a beautiful college student, legally, and for the right price. Tommy. 63, and Monte. 21, have been together for two years, and they refer to each other has "sugar daddy" and "sugar baby.". When Monte needs money, Tommy is her go-to guy. He said he drops about $5, 000 on her each month"

[Tempoecorto]

It just goes to show, if a DOMINICAN guy who lives there can't keep a chick to himself how the hell do you guys who don't live there expect to do it?I thought I would copy a transcript of a written conversation last night just to give it an additional spin. Apologies that it is in Spanish but nothing that Google cannot solve

Maria — Sunday. 24 June 2012 01:08 AM

Ya me voy espero verte luego bey.

T — Sunday. 24 June 2012 01:08 AM

Te vas?

Maria — Sunday. 24 June 2012 01:08 AM

Sip.

T — Sunday. 24 June 2012 01:08 AM

Me dijiste que te acuestas tarde?

Maria — Sunday. 24 June 2012 01:09 AM

Ya son las 1 ya esta um poco tarde cariño.

T — Sunday. 24 June 2012 01:09 AM

Eso si. Tienes cel? Megustaria ser en contacto si te va

Maria — Sunday. 24 June 2012 01:09 AM

Umm si pero no puedo dartelo.

T — Sunday. 24 June 2012 01:10 AM

No te gusto?

Maria — Sunday. 24 June 2012 01:10 AM

Ummmmmmmmm soy casada

T — Sunday. 24 June 2012 01:10 AM

Ah. Pardon.

Maria — Sunday. 24 June 2012 01:10 AM

Tienes un lindo paisaje en tu perfil.

T — Sunday. 24 June 2012 01:11 AM

Te gusta bella?

Maria — Sunday. 24 June 2012 01:11 AM

Ahh viajado a algun pais.

T — Sunday. 24 June 2012 01:11 AM

Si babe.

Maria — Sunday. 24 June 2012 01:11 AM

Donde.

T — Sunday. 24 June 2012 01:11 AM

En muchas pais. Europa, USA.

Maria — Sunday. 24 June 2012 01:11 AM

K bas a ser aya, paseo?

Maria — Sunday. 24 June 2012 01:12 AM

Jijij.

T — Sunday. 24 June 2012 01:12 AM.

LOL.

Maria — Sunday. 24 June 2012 01:13 AM

Si kieres me deja tu num why cuando pueda te llamo.

T — Sunday. 24 June 2012 01:14 AM

Si eso es posible pero es que muchas veces, estoy fuera pais why asi no me encuentraras.

Maria — Sunday. 24 June 2012 01:14 AM

Te podria dar mi num pero no me puedes llamar mucho ok.

T — Sunday. 24 June 2012 01:15 AM

Te soy agradecido. Pero tienes que decir cuando es seguro. No quiero crearte problema.

Maria — Sunday. 24 June 2012 01:15 AM

Okk despues the la 6 the la tarde sii.

T — Sunday. 24 June 2012 01:18 AM

Si mi dices, despues la 6. 00 PM, te buscare' solo a ese hora.

Maria — Sunday. 24 June 2012 01:18 AM

Okk pero dame tu num o no puedes?

T — Sunday. 24 June 2012 01:18 AM

Claro que puedo. 347. Why el tuyo numero?

T — Sunday. 24 June 2012 01:22 AM

Babe. Mi parece que no estes segura. Dejamos eso.

Maria — Sunday. 24 June 2012 01:22 AM

Noooo kieres mi num?

Maria — Sunday. 24 June 2012 01:22 AM

829.

Maria — Sunday. 24 June 2012 01:23 AM

Solo me lllamas cuando yo te avise sii.

Maria — Sunday. 24 June 2012 01:23 AM

Adios pase buenas nocheee bey

[TomJackin]

A few guys have recently departed Sosua somewhat jaded, so lets set the record straight. Gogos top 10.

1) If you don't like pussy, don't go to Sosua.

2) If you don't like noise, beggars and people, don't go to Sosua.

3) If you want to play golf, don't go to Sosua.

4) If you want a casa where girls fuck 20 guys a day, don't go to Sosua.

5) If you want a tour bus for attractions, don't go to Sosua.

6) If you can't say "NO" and move on, don't go to Sosua.

7) If every peso means the world to you, don't go to Sosua.

8) If pretty, hot Latinas scare you, don't go to Sosua.

9) If women of different shades scare you don't go to Sosua.

10) If your not looking for the party, don't go to Sosua.I would like to add a few!

If you want to hang out and watch Sports Center, don't go to Sosua.

If you think street prostitution is fucking irritating, don't go to Sosua.

If women hissing at you bothers you, don't go to Sosua.

If you are timid and somewhat of a pussy, don't you fucking dare not go to Sosua!

[GreenAndYellow]

Quote Originally Posted by AlwaysHorny 2 [View Original Post]

I think I'm going to plan my next major trip to Eastern Europe. Something that involves Copenhagen, Frankfurt, Switzetland! , and maybe Prague or Amsterdam for the novelty.

Sorry to bust your balls but had to point out (so the others also get to clear their geography). The only place that is "East Europe" in the list above, is Prague, pronounced Praha locally, capital of the Czech Republic. The rest belong to "Western Europe".

Going to East Europe is not a bad idea, Poland, Romania, Hungary are all interesting from a specific viewpoint but they were a lot cheaper and greener 15 years back. Sob!

Dear Tempoecorto, I think tyhe cities you name arr all also noy estern europe in 2012, I woul; the rather refer as ukraine, and moldavia as eastern europe as the cpountries you named alll become mort europen the last 3 years. The first 3 citirs mentionrf by alwayshorney, are you kidding me, these cities are not eastern europe these are main central europe and one of the most expenive cities that you can imagine. Hahahhahaha, saying to somebody who live in frankfurt that he live in a eastern european city is like saying to somebody in nt or la that he lives in a south american country. Hhahaha

[Tempoecorto]

Quote Originally Posted by AlwaysHorny 2 [View Original Post]

I think I'm going to plan my next major trip to Eastern Europe. Something that involves Copenhagen, Frankfurt, Switzetland! , and maybe Prague or Amsterdam for the novelty.

Sorry to bust your balls but had to point out (so the others also get to clear their geography). The only place that is "East Europe" in the list above, is Prague, pronounced Praha locally, capital of the Czech Republic. The rest belong to "Western Europe".

Going to East Europe is not a bad idea, Poland, Romania, Hungary are all interesting from a specific viewpoint but they were a lot cheaper and greener 15 years back. Sob!

Dear Tempoecorto, I think tyhe cities you name arr all also noy estern europe in 2012, I woul; the rather refer as ukraine, and moldavia as eastern europe as the cpountries you named alll become mort europen the last 3 years. The first 3 citirs mentionrf by alwayshorney, are you kidding me, these cities are not eastern europe these are main central europe and one of the most expenive cities that you can imagine. Hahahhahaha, saying to somebody who live in frankfurt that he live in a eastern european city is like saying to somebody in nt or la that he lives in a south american country. HhahahaHahaha!

1) Only an illiterate will understand reading my post that I stated Frankfurt and Copenhagen are cities in "East Europe". Switzerland is not a city, it is a country, in case you did not know!

2) There is a specific reason why I put "East Europe" within brackets. If you do not know it, go ask your high school teacher.

I presume English is not your first language hahaha! Once you learn how to speak, read and write English properly as a grown up man, please re-read my post and put your objections in correct spellings so people can understand. Hahaha!

[GreenAndYellow]

Wow dude I didn't know that you got so stressed about my post. I'm sorry but you're right english is my third language I speak 5 so somethings got to swith grammar. I'm sorry for this I hope you still understand my posts though, I'm trying my best to explain the situation in english as I can. So tempocoerto, sorry for my bad grammar but I hope you understand.

[Mr Gogo]

Wow dude I didn't know that you got so stressed about my post. I'm sorry but you're right english is my third language I speak 5 so somethings got to swith grammar. I'm sorry for this I hope you still understand my posts though, I'm trying my best to explain the situation in english as I can. So tempocoerto, sorry for my bad grammar but I hope you understand.Classy response dude.

[Mr Gogo]

After answering Cages post in the general forum I decided to offer my opinion on Dominican women.

They are beautiful, loving, and sexual but complicated women. It all goes back to the culture that is all they know and care about. When is the last time a Dominicana asked " How is it living in America"? It has never happened to me because they don't genuinely care. Ask yourself why arent these women able to adjust to American culture? Its because they are brainwashed to believe Dominican culture is the shit. But first let me say that I love Dominican women but I don't trust them.

It's a simple hustle that weak men fall into by believing that they will be able to adopt to American culture. Maybe we are the fools for also believing this. Many a guy has been fooled by this. They are to be enjoyed in their country but guys want to take them out of that element and make them something they are not. I was talking to Frannie via PM the other day and I explained to him that some topics about American culture are not worth talking about. They don't know and they don't care so why bother? So why would you try to have this beautiful creature adapt your culture if she doesn't care? Most guys just want the arm trophy to prove their manhood, but fuck that, you are living for someone else. Be true to who you are just as they are being true to what they have been taught. In ways they are more true than we are.

[Tempoecorto]

Wow dude I didn't know that you got so stressed about my post. I'm sorry but you're right english is my third language I speak 5 so somethings got to swith grammar. I'm sorry for this I hope you still understand my posts though, I'm trying my best to explain the situation in english as I can. So tempocoerto, sorry for my bad grammar but I hope you understand.I speak seven but no matter how many or how few, facts are facts. Ukraine and Moldova etc are part of Ex-USSR countries. They were never known as "East Europe"."East Europe" even though politically extinct now, used to describe Warsaw Pact countries (for example, Czechoslovakia then-now split into Slovakia and the Czech Republic) and many of them are now part of European Union(EU or UE etc) not "North" Europe as you state. However barring a tectonic plate shift, geographically, they will continue to remain in the "Eastern" part of Europe and Frankfurt (Germany) , Copenhagen (Denmark), (Switzerland) and Amsterdam (Holland) will continue to remain in Western Europe, which is what I had stated in my mail and to which you objected.

I would request next time you post, to keep it fact based (as in your FOD post).

Thanks and welcome to the D. R forum.

[Rebel Monger]

I understand but you shouldn't judge for what happened with her. She is not a non-pro. She "eliminated" the guy from her Facebook profile (I bet the guy consented to it) to hook you up. She and her "husband" have a cuero / tiguere relationship.


I called one of my main girls (non-pro) in STI last night. A guy (Dominicano) answered her phone and asked who I was. I told him my name then he asked from where. I didn't answer but instead asked him who he was. He passed the phone to her and I asked who the guy was. She said my husband. I said okay. Goodbye.

A couple of months ago I looked for her on facebook and she had pictures of her and a guy hugged up and her profile said engaged. I clicked to add her as a friend. When she accepted all the pictures of the guy were gone and her profile said single. LOL.

Right as I was about to post this she called me and apologized. I told her that if she had a man it was okay. Why didn't she just let me know. She said she was afraid. She asked if she would be able to see me again when I am down there.

It just goes to show, if a DOMINICAN guy who lives there can't keep a chick to himself how the hell do you guys who don't live there expect to do it?

[Savethe7]

I have to agree with you Gogo, I was married to an incredible Jamaican woman I met on vacation there and it ended up being a total disaster. Very easy to fall for a woman like her and that's fine as long as like you say you keep her in her element. I've learned my lesson and the plan now is to retire down in the DR somewhere and find a couple nice girls to look after me, it's stupid to try and take them home when you can retire much younger there than you can in a first world country and if / when they get annoying it's easy to find a replacement.

[Mr Enternational]

I understand but you shouldn't judge for what happened with her. She is not a non-pro. She "eliminated" the guy from her Facebook profile (I bet the guy consented to it) to hook you up. She and her "husband" have a cuero / tiguere relationship.LOL. Yes she is a non-pro. I have known her for 3 years. I have been to her house. I have met all of her family (before she had the boyfriend) at a gathering at her aunt's house when someone died. I have been to her cousin's house who is a federal police officer. She has taken the bus to see me in different parts of the country with her own money. I have never given her a dime. The only money I have spent on her is at places to eat such as La Serena and street vendors; never big restaurants. Oops. I forgot. There was that time when she rode with me to the airport in Santiago because I knew the general area but wasn't exactly sure how to get there. She was running late for work because of that and I gave her 1000 pesos to take a taxi from the airport to work, which she later told me wasn't even enough. She works at a call center and is about to graduate the university. It is understandable for her to have the guy though because I hardly come see her. So it is not a judgement and quite understandable that she would have someone more stable and steady. Not everybody is after money.

[Mr Gogo]

I have to agree with you Gogo, I was married to an incredible Jamaican woman I met on vacation there and it ended up being a total disaster. Very easy to fall for a woman like her and that's fine as long as like you say you keep her in her element. I've learned my lesson and the plan now is to retire down in the DR somewhere and find a couple nice girls to look after me, it's stupid to try and take them home when you can retire much younger there than you can in a first world country and if / when they get annoying it's easy to find a replacement.Sorry your situation did'nt work out bro. I have the option of an early out retirement in 3 years, so I"m also thinking about where I want to live. The DR will probably win out over Colombia for a few reasons:

1) Closer flights with more frequency.

2) I'm more familiar now with the DR.

3) Safety.

4) The Dominicanas are more free sexually.

5) More bang for the buck.

I have several friends who have recently retired to the DR, and I have been picking their minds weekly. They like Santo Domingo over the North coast for several reasons:

1) Sdq has 17 daily flights from the mainland, POP has three.

2) SD is a bigger city where it's easier to blend in, the North coast is very intimate and everybody is nosy.

3) More of a normal life with more things to do.

4) More women, more women, more women.

I ask myself if I would have a steady girlfriend or freelance. My friends that live there offer this advise:

1) Use cabanas and never take girls to your home until you develope a comfort zone with a couple special girls.

2) don't take street walkers to your home.

3) Stay private and secretive.

Eventually you will develope a FRIENDSHIP with a couple special girls, but also know where the cabanas are located in case a stray happens in your path. So they are basically saying" Have your good girl and many bad girls".

I'm getting different opinions on health care but most have been positive. Make a high ranking officer you friend. Don't have your neighbors in your home that are strangers. You will have a lot of down time so consider doing volunteer work to give back. Adopt a family that you can visit and give back (No sex). Take a few Spanish classes at the University. Don't live big and make yourself a target. And also don't let some of the backward ways in the DR make you frustrated.

Anyone who has made " The move" and would like to advise, thanks in advance.

[Berthold]

After answering Cages post in the general forum I decided to offer my opinion on Dominican women.

They are beautiful, loving, and sexual but complicated women. It all goes back to the culture that is all they know and care about. When is the last time a Dominicana asked " How is it living in America"? It has never happened to me because they don't genuinely care. Ask yourself why arent these women able to adjust to American culture? Its because they are brainwashed to believe Dominican culture is the shit. But first let me say that I love Dominican women but I don't trust them.

It's a simple hustle that weak men fall into by believing that they will be able to adopt to American culture. Maybe we are the fools for also believing this. Many a guy has been fooled by this. They are to be enjoyed in their country but guys want to take them out of that element and make them something they are not. I was talking to Frannie via PM the other day and I explained to him that some topics about American culture are not worth talking about. They don't know and they don't care so why bother? So why would you try to have this beautiful creature adapt your culture if she doesn't care? Most guys just want the arm trophy to prove their manhood, but fuck that, you are living for someone else. Be true to who you are just as they are being true to what they have been taught. In ways they are more true than we are.I think alot depends on their background, how they were brought up and education. I know a couple of dominican girls who graduated from UASD medical school and moved to Spain and became successful doctors and make a decent living in Spain, on the other hand in any nightclub in Spain you will find your fair share of dominican girls as well.

[Tempoecorto]

After answering Cages post in the general forum I decided to offer my opinion on Dominican women.

They are beautiful, loving, and sexual but complicated women. It all goes back to the culture that is all they know and care about. When is the last time a Dominicana asked " How is it living in America"? It has never happened to me because they don't genuinely care. Ask yourself why arent these women able to adjust to American culture? Its because they are brainwashed to believe Dominican culture is the shit. But first let me say that I love Dominican women but I don't trust them.

It's a simple hustle that weak men fall into by believing that they will be able to adopt to American culture. Maybe we are the fools for also believing this. Many a guy has been fooled by this. They are to be enjoyed in their country but guys want to take them out of that element and make them something they are not. I was talking to Frannie via PM the other day and I explained to him that some topics about American culture are not worth talking about. They don't know and they don't care so why bother? So why would you try to have this beautiful creature adapt your culture if she doesn't care? Most guys just want the arm trophy to prove their manhood, but fuck that, you are living for someone else. Be true to who you are just as they are being true to what they have been taught. In ways they are more true than we are.I am somewhat taken aback by your statements Gogo (who I consider a reasonable person), here and in your response to cagep!

1. All of us are led to believe that our native land is "the best". People born here, even if dirt poor, believe it as do the most impoverished people across the world. I know it from personal experience. I also know how hard it is to adjust to an alien climate. A car or a 40' TV does not quite replace the warm and fuzzy feeling one has, in his own land, surrounded by people he knows, speaking a language all speak around her. Not to speak of food and other cultural affinities. It takes time to learn the good things in the new society (if you move) and by the time, the second generation comes up, it is different.

2. Why would a Dominican woman be less faithful? Personally, I think that women should have as much liberty to be faithful or not, as the menfolk. Of course, men have kept them behind the "hijaab" in many civilizations but if in this space, men can brag about their conquests and obvious "infidelity", why would not the women - even poor Dominican women?

3. I have noticed negative stereotypes here like "women are full of shit" even from people who are thoughtful. Wonder why. In many communities across the globe, and it is certainly true of the inner cities in the US, family burden is borne by women almost disproportionately. It is also well documented that college educated African American women have trouble finding suitable mates (BTW, I enjoyed the video of such women in Italy. Good for them!). These speak volume in favor of women; Without them, the menfolk to criticize them, would not exist.

4. Oh as far as marriage is concerned, including comparison with marriage to a foreign born woman, the divorce rate in this country is about 52% (white, black. All inclusive). The highest in the world. So whether one marries a local or not, it is immaterial. Why then blame a woman from a foreign land for the failure. Certainly it takes two to tango?

5. If we believe that "pursuit of happiness" is a God-given right, it is equally true of women, white, black and all shades in between.

We all are entitled to our opinions depending on where we grew up and the prevalent belief in those systems and it is hoped that my comments would not be interpreted as "flaming" nor do I want to do "anthropology" in your forum. So my comments are not aimed at you or any particular community. I need to make that amply clear.

[Revere]

Sometimes we just make the wrong choice because we have not spent enough time getting to know the girl. I met this girl a long time ago when I was working for the summer in New York. I really liked her or so I thought. I end up back in Chicago she lived in New York. I would come visit her on the weekends every couple months and we had a great time. I though I was in love with this girl because we had such great weekends together. I end up getting engaged after a year of going back and forth seeing her. I based my love on the great weekends we had together without really spending quality time with her. Once, I moved to New York and spent some quality time with her I could not stand her. Of course, I broke off the engagement. So, my point is I am not even sure it's culture it's just really being able to spend quality time with a girl to make sure she is a good fit for you. It is very hard for you to know if you spend a few days with a girl every few months regardless if the United States or Dominican Republic. I think we blame the girl when maybe it was us that did not put the right time into making sure she is good fit for us.


I am somewhat taken aback by your statements Gogo (who I consider a reasonable person) , here and in your response to cagep!

1. All of us are led to believe that our native land is "the best". People born here, even if dirt poor, believe it as do the most impoverished people across the world. I know it from personal experience. I also know how hard it is to adjust to an alien climate. A car or a 40' TV does not quite replace the warm and fuzzy feeling one has, in his own land, surrounded by people he knows, speaking a language all speak around her. Not to speak of food and other cultural affinities. It takes time to learn the good things in the new society (if you move) and by the time, the second generation comes up, it is all gone.

2. Why would a Dominican woman be less faithful? Personally, I think that women should have as much liberty to be faithful or not, as the menfolk. Of course, men have kept them behind the "hijaab" in many civilizations but if in this space, men can brag about their conquests and obvious "infidelity", why would not the women. Even Dominican women?

3. I have noticed comments like "women are full of shit". Wonder why. In many communities across the globs, and it is certainly true of the inner cities in the US, family burden is borne by women. Almost disproportionately. It is also well documented that college educated African American women have trouble finding suitable mates (BTW, I enjoyed the video of such women in Italy. Good for them!). These speak volume in favor of women. That without them, the menfolk, to criticize them would not exist.

4. Oh as far as marriage is concerned, including comparison with marriage to a foreign born woman, the divorce rate in this country is about 52% (white, black. All inclusive). The highest in the world. So whether one marries a local or not, it is immaterial. Why then blame a woman from a foreign land for the failure. Certainly it takes two to tango?

5. If we believe that "pursuit of happiness" is our God-given right, it is equally true of women, white, black and all shades in between.

We all are entitled to our opinions depending on where we grew up and the prevalent belief in those systems and it is hoped that my comments would not be interpreted as "flaming" nor do I want to do "anthropology" in this forum. So my comments are not aimed at you or a particular community. I need to make that clear.

[Mr Gogo]

I hope all this doesn't bury the response I made to Savethe7 about retiring at the bottom of this page.

Okay Tempoecorto lets go over it bro:

1) Here you might have me because we Americans are made to believe that we are the greatest nation with the most opportunities. We are led to believe most third world countries have citizens that yearn for the American dream. I might be a bit biased so I will give you this one.

2) I'm not about chaining a woman down but some guys will and it hardly ever works out positive. We can agree on this one because I will NEVER get married or move a Dominicana to the States.

3) I said Essence wasnt shit for posting that article, not women arent shit. I did say I couldn't trust a Dominicana. Maybe a misprint on your behalf.

4) Sure divorce is high among Americans that marry, so having a women compound that with cultural differences is usually a recipe for failure. We concur, I think.

5) AH! We agree totally bro.

[Mr Gogo]

Sometimes we just make the wrong choice because we have not spent enough time getting to know the girl. I met this girl a long time ago when I was working for the summer in New York. I really liked her or so I thought. I end up back in Chicago she lived in New York. I would come visit her on the weekends every couple months and we had a great time. I though I was in love with this girl because we had such great weekends together. I end up getting engaged after a year of going back and forth seeing her. I based my love on the great weekends we had together without really spending quality time with her. Once, I moved to New York and spent some quality time with her I could not stand her. Of course, I broke off the engagement. So, my point is I am not even sure it's culture it's just really being able to spend quality time with a girl to make sure she is a good fit for you. It is very hard for you to know if you spend a few days with a girl every few months regardless if the United States or Dominican Republic. I think we blame the girl when maybe it was us that did not put the right time into making sure she is good fit for us.Thanks for posting bro, but I think we have missed a point. I was talking about Dominican women relocating to the States. Temorecorto and Revere I think are talking about American relationships. But its all good anyway.

[Tempoecorto]

So, my point is I am not even sure it's culture it's just really being able to spend quality time with a girl to make sure she is a good fit for you. It is very hard for you to know if you spend a few days with a girl every few months regardless if the United States or Dominican Republic. I think we blame the girl when maybe it was us that did not put the right time into making sure she is good fit for us. I agree; that is what I meant when I said, it takes two to tango. However, in addition to that and perhaps I am a seasoned cynic but to me, all "great love" WITHER with time! So also, as a romantic, I keep falling in love, with different women -knowing everything is transient but, often times women are left holding the bag which is why they deserve the respect!

[Mr Gogo]

Yes, that is what I meant when I said, it takes two to tango. However, in addition to that and perhaps I am a seasoned cynic but to me, all "great love" WITHER with time! So also, as a romantic, I keep falling in love, with different women. Knowing everything is transient but often times women are left holding the bag which is why they deserve the respect!Exactamente amigo. Why is it that your best post is also your shortest and to the point?

[Revere]

I agree; that is what I meant when I said, it takes two to tango. However, in addition to that and perhaps I am a seasoned cynic but to me, all "great love" WITHER with time! So also, as a romantic, I keep falling in love, with different women -knowing everything is transient but, often times women are left holding the bag which is why they deserve the respect!Totally agree.

[Frannie]

I was talking to Frannie via PM the other day and I explained to him that some topics about American culture are not worth talking about. They don't know and they don't care so why bother? So why would you try to have this beautiful creature adapt your culture if she doesn't care? Most guys just want the arm trophy to prove their manhood, but fuck that, you are living for someone else. Be true to who you are just as they are being true to what they have been taught. In ways they are more true than we are.I thought we were in agreement that it probably isn't worth giving someone a course in college US history so as to bring them up to date on why they had segregated buses and bathrooms in the US in Martin Luther King's time. To a Haitiana the story of the Haitian revolution is much more interesting, relevant, and inspirational.

[Tempoecorto]

I hope all this doesn't bury the response I made to Savethe7 about retiring at the bottom of this page.

Okay Tempoecorto lets go over it bro:

1) Here you might have me because we Americans are made to believe that we are the greatest nation with the most opportunities. We are led to believe most third world countries have citizens that yearn for the American dream. I might be a bit biased so I will give you this one.

2) I'm not about chaining a woman down but some guys will and it hardly ever works out positive. We can agree on this one because I will NEVER get married or move a Dominicana to the States.

3) I said Essence wasnt shit for posting that article, not women arent shit. I did say I couldn't trust a Dominicana. Maybe a misprint on your behalf.

4) Sure divorce is high among Americans that marry, so having a women compound that with cultural differences is usually a recipe for failure. We concur, I think.

5) AH! We agree totally bro.1. Now that Frannie is your buddy for PM (LOL) , you can check with him about this. He comes from the first world and I from the third but trust me, US is the best for Americans. There is no doubt that there are certain things that draw a lot of people across the globe towards the US (thank Thomas Paine a Britisher for that or Alexis De Toqueville. A Frenchman) , but the same thing happened in the British empire in early 1900s or towards Rome in pre-Christian times, when all roads used to lead to Rome. Today, you would not find too many people in this century moving out of say, Western Europe or say Japan or Korea. And an Afghan, given one millionth of an opportunity to have the security and economics at home, will stay at his place.

2. (your points 2, 3 &4) My mail was addressed to you but it also addressed statements by others. Yes, you did refer to the Dominican women and I stand by my statement that they are as trustworthy or not as any other depending upon the kind of relationship one is in. Moving a person to the US or for that matter to Germany is always hard for the person who moves but how feasible is it to have a long distance relationship? That too is doomed by definition. I agree it compounds the problem but I do not think people are thinking that rationally when they are in "love". Thank God!

I am not interested in scoring points or "gotcha"! All that I am saying is that women (ANYWHERE) deserve a lot more respect and here I give Tom Jackin credit for saying it aloud; he said something like. So what if they are "pro". I agree.

[Tempoecorto]

Think about it: what can a 50yr old man discuss intelligently with an 18yr old chica? Justin Beber?

I've found that GFE works better when I am dealing with chicas older than me or just a few years younger. I have run into a lot of (mentally) mature 25-28yr olds. Young chicas (18-24) are strictly for sport fucking, LOL!Ah. I strongly disagree. I know at least one 19 year old who is studying law at PUCMM. 4th semester over. Those in the know, will know, it is kind of an IVY LEAGUE out there and very expensive. This young woman can discuss Socrates with me without batting an eyelid and that too in English which is bad for me as she speaks a high class Spanish. I have not touched her. Last trip, she did not want to see me because she was weary of my intention (and was coming out of a relation with a Dutch guy) but now wants to see me. The only problem is that she wants "serious" relation which I am unable to give. So it is a ping pong match. On the other hand, I would not like the idea of lying.

Here is an excerpt of a conversation:

Melissa — Sunday. 29 April 2012 04:13 PM

I wrote a poem in English, my first poem in english, do you want to read it?

T — Sunday. 29 April 2012 04:14 PM

Where is it. Do not see.

Melissa — Sunday. 29 April 2012 04:14 PM

Wait. Is a little romantic but the meaning is about the emotion that I feel

T — Sunday. 29 April 2012 04:15 PM

Why would you write in english? I think spanish is better.

Melissa — Sunday. 29 April 2012 04:16 PM

I'm not in darkness,

Because you are here with me,

And despite the diseases,

I know that You will protect me.

You give me inspiration,

To write these lines,

Cause when I feel the emotion,

I only let the feelings go outside from my heart.

Melissa — Sunday. 29 April 2012 04:16 PM

Baby let me be you daylight,

And that of the night,

Just share with me your love for all the lifetime without you my dreams can't take fly.

Melissa — Sunday. 29 April 2012 04:17 PM

When I am near to you,

I feel the power of the climax in my body,

The exquisite sensation to make love and feel that you love me,

We cannot fight in this bed papi, our dreams are floating,

This is sweet intoxication, trust me and touch me,

This is the love's beautiful expression.

Melissa — Sunday. 29 April 2012 04:17 PM

I abandon the defenses if you are in front of me,

I fall on the floor and I want you to hug me, to kiss me and love me,

Is obviously that I always let the thoughts work on it,

Those are the thoughts that I have every single day.

Melissa — Sunday. 29 April 2012 04:18 PM

That's it.

Melissa — Sunday. 29 April 2012 04:18 PM

Hello! Are you there?

T — Sunday. 29 April 2012 04:19 PM

I am still re-reading the lines. I first thought you were speaking of god. But perhaps not as I read further.

Melissa — Sunday. 29 April 2012 04:20 PM

JAJAJAJAJAJA!

T — Sunday. 29 April 2012 04:21 PM

Stupid question, is this an imaginary man? Or a real person you are thinking of?

Melissa — Sunday. 29 April 2012 04:22 PM

The real writer is who can write without feelings and persons, only with his o her mind.

There's your answer.

T — Sunday. 29 April 2012 04:22 PM

Is that true?

Melissa — Sunday. 29 April 2012 04:22 PM

Yup.

T — Sunday. 29 April 2012 04:23 PM

I always thought there is a real inspiration behind each great painting or poetry.

Melissa — Sunday. 29 April 2012 04:23 PM

Yes that is true too.

Melissa — Sunday. 29 April 2012 04:23 PM

But not always.

Melissa — Sunday. 29 April 2012 04:24 PM

For example. I make love with you today. Maybe I could make a good one about that but is not for the feelings that I had just for the moment and the ideas that I imagined.

T — Sunday. 29 April 2012 04:26 PM

Yes I understand. But I thought with a real person, your feelings of love or hate is intense and that adds to the beauty of your creation. But I am not a creative person.

Melissa — Sunday. 29 April 2012 04:26 PM

Ok jajaja.

T — Sunday. 29 April 2012 04:27 PM

You are the only person I speak of poetry with

[Mr Gogo]

Thats a first, someone reading poetry to a Dominicana. We talk about "Game" but I guess game works in many ways. You probably don't look at in that way because its not a game to you. But to get the Dominicana to open up to your ways is "Game", even though sex isn't involved.

But somehow I can see you (Romeo) throwing pebbles at her window late at night with the following:

Mellissa: Temoecorto, my Tempoecorto, how art thou Tempoecorto?

Tempoecorto: My fair lady Mellissa, would thou want to go to Classicos?

Mellissa: Only bad girls go to Classicos, plus my mom needs a new leg and I have no deniro, estoy muy triste.

Tempecorto: Don't be sad because you are very special, no Dominicana has ever listened to my poetry without laughing.

Mellissa: I did'nt laugh because you are so different, plus I thought you were going to pay me to like it.

Mellissa: Now please stop throwing damn rocks at my window in the middle of the night before I send my Dominican boyfriend down there to wipe your ass with that poem.

AH! A true romance Classic tale ( Dominican style).

P. S. Just a little Gogo humor LOL.

[AlwaysHorny 2]

Gogo,

I guess your forum is not immuned to wierdos either! LOL.

I didn't know that I had to carefully proofread and fact check my posts. It takes time and effort for some of us. Some of us lead very busy lives. Even if I had the time, I would do more with myself than sit back and disseminate posts. These amatuer intellectuals should find some academic journals forum to TRY to impress someone with their limited knowledge.

Anyway, the wind has been taken out of my sails. I understand why a few rarely post or stopped posting. I miss the old Sosua as well as the old forum convo. These wierdos rarely contribute anything connected to mongering. What is their point here? I guess it is time I fade to the background as well!

Peace

[MiamiHeatLuver]

Thats a first, someone reading poetry to a Dominicana. We talk about "Game" but I guess game works in many ways. You probably don't look at in that way because its not a game to you. But to get the Dominicana to open up to your ways is "Game", even though sex isn't involved.

But somehow I can see you (Romeo) throwing pebbles at her window late at night with the following:

Mellissa: Temoecorto, my Tempoecorto, how art thou Tempoecorto?

Tempoecorto: My fair lady Mellissa, would thou want to go to Classicos?

Mellissa: Only bad girls go to Classicos, plus my mom needs a new leg and I have no deniro, estoy muy triste.

Tempecorto: Don't be sad because you are very special, no Dominicana has ever listened to my poetry without laughing.

Mellissa: I did'nt laugh because you are so different, plus I thought you were going to pay me to like it.

Mellissa: Now please stop throwing damn rocks at my window in the middle of the night before I send my Dominican boyfriend down there to wipe your ass with that poem.

AH! A true romance Classic tale (Dominican style).

P. S. Just a little Gogo humor LOL.WARNING: do not read the above while eating or unless close to a toilet for fear if pissing your pants! LOL.

Jajajjajajajjajajajjajaja, ufffffff! I have fruity pebbles coming out of my nose! You made my morning!

[Tempoecorto]

Thats a first, someone reading poetry to a Dominicana. We talk about "Game" but I guess game works in many ways. You probably don't look at in that way because its not a game to you. But to get the Dominicana to open up to your ways is "Game", even though sex isn't involved.

P. S. Just a little Gogo humor LOL.Nah. I can't write poetry. I am too prosaic for that. She was the one who wrote it and "read" it to me. Apparently it was her first in English, I have seen her others in Spanish. A romantic sweet 19 year old!

I am glad you and others have found it funny. I certainly liked your Romeo-Juliet bit. You see, one good deed begets another. It brought out Shakespeare in you. LOL.

In any case, it just goes to prove that life across the globe is a normal distribution (Dominican or American or a Dutch woman who wrote a long mail to me today from Germany. Or whatever). Some here had spoken of six sigma and depending on what you look for and serendipity, you find it.

Also for AlwaysHorny, it is not an "intellectual" exercise for me (even though I find everything right with that. I was a geek at school). I like writing well. So it is easy for others to comprehend. And because shabby writing means I do not value other people's time. Chasing women is a beautiful pursuit. BTW, I enjoyed your Ibiza account. So you know.

Finally Kudos to Savepro321 who keeps this "gogo" pot boiling. I was trying to contradict him but all in good spirit...not to to score points.

[Frannie]

Also for AlwaysHorny, it is not an "intellectual" exercise for me (even though I find everything right with that. I was a geek at school). I like writing well. So it is easy for others to comprehend. And because shabby writing means I do not value other people's time. Chasing women is a beautiful pursuit.Indeed. And it is perhaps worth quoting from Jackson's POSTING GUIDELINES for this board, particularly in reference to those who wish to make long posts in dialect. Here goes:

Letter Format.

1. An optional greeting, followed by a blank line.

2. Paragraphs of reasonable length, each separated by a blank line.

3. A optional salutation at the bottom, separated from the body of the report by a blank line.

Standard Punctuation.

We all learned this in elementary school, and in the Forum it generally amounts to putting commas between phrases and periods at the end of sentences.

Standard Capitalization.

Again, we all went to elementary school, and we all know that you should capitalize the first letter of sentences, names of people, places, streets, cities, countries, names of races and religions, etc.

General Politeness.

This reminds me of the old saying about pornography "I can't define it, but I know it when I see it". The same holds true for recognizing uncivil behavior: "General Politeness" just means referring to other Members with a minimal level of civility.

WHAT'S NOT GOOD.

NO Chatroom Style Writing.

Please do not write in chatroom style with no capital letters or punctuation.

The Forum is not a chat room, it's a permanent archive of travel reports.

NO Chatroom Abbreviations.

Please refrain from using the following or similar chatroom abbreviations:

The letter "I" instead of "I".

The letter "you" instead of "you".

The letter "are" instead of "are".

The letters "because" instead of "because".

The letters "your" instead of "your".

The letters "them" instead of "them".

The letters "before" instead of "before".

Universally recognized abbreviations of multiple words such as "FYI","LOL", etc, and abbreviations on the Forum's Terms and Abbreviations List are all acceptable for use in Forum reports.

NO Weird Punctuation.

Please refrain from using any of the following writing abnormalities:

No period or other punctuation marks at the end of sentences.

Multiple periods or other punctuation marks at the ends of.

Sentences or elsewhere in the report text.

No space between sentences.

Unwarranted dashes and dots throughout the text.

Of course everyone makes occasional typos, what I'm referring to is the consistent use of these writing aberrations.

NO Writing In All Proper Case.

Writing In All Proper Case Takes Extra Time, Is Confusing To Read, And Is Completely Pointless.

NO Writing in all CAPS.

THIS IS THE INTERNET EQUIVALENT OF SHOUTING, IT'S DIFFICULT TO READ, AND IT'S SIMPLY NOT NECESSARY UNLESS YOU ARE EITHER LAZY OR AN EGOMANIAC.

NO Writing in Regional or Ancient Dialects.

Please do not compose your reports in regional or ancient dialects such as.

Olde English.

Australian "Aussie Slang"

Deep South "Southern drawls"

Star-Trek "Space Trekkie" talk.

Carribean "Pirate" talk.

Ghetto "Jive"

Spanglish.

Mimicking any other regional or ancient dialects.

This styles of writing are difficult to read and especially confusing to the Forum's many non-native English readers.

[Charles Pooter]

I would love to see Jackson's POSTING GUIDELINES enforced. It would make for a better world. However, I would have a lot more respect for him if he switched off his dumbass auto-correct software. It actually makes it more difficult to write correctly. For example, it is impossible to write many place-names like Sosua correctly or use the standard abbreviation for the Dominican currency (which comes out as "roads"). And it renders this part of your post ridiculous:


Please refrain from using the following or similar chatroom abbreviations:

The letter "I" instead of "I".

The letter "you" instead of "you".

The letter "are" instead of "are".

The letters "because" instead of "because".

The letters "your" instead of "your".

The letters "them" instead of "them".

The letters "before" instead of "before".

If the auto-correct just came with the package I could understand, as I am grateful to Jackson for maintaining this board and would be the last to wish extra work or expense onto him. But the thing is, I post on other boards using the same package, run by people with less concern for literacy than Jackson, and I don't suffer the same frustration of seeing my carefully input text mangled by some retarded robot.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1298207]Please do not compose your reports in regional or ancient dialects such as . Olde English.Hey, do you think that is a dig at me? (Note that in this quote I could not include an ellipsis correctly because of the dumbass auto-correct).

Seriously, what provoked him to include that particular prohibition? If anyone ever posted entirely in "Olde English" I would love to read it!

[Mr Enternational]

Thats a first, someone reading poetry to a Dominicana. We talk about "Game" but I guess game works in many ways. You probably don't look at in that way because its not a game to you. But to get the Dominicana to open up to your ways is "Game", even though sex isn't involved.Sure it's game, but come on man. When I put myself in the shoes: When I was 19 what did I have in common with a 50 year old woman? Not a damn thing! Sure you can always say you both like your hot dogs with mustard or some bullshit, but enough in common for a serious relationship to manifest - 0.

[Frannie]

Seriously, what provoked him to include that particular prohibition? If anyone ever posted entirely in "Olde English" I would love to read it!I think it was just a joke, Brer Pooter, but maybe he didn't want to see Chaucerian English.

Whanne that Aprille with his shoures swote.

The droght of Marche has perced to the rote.

And vertu engendered is the flor,

Thanne langen folk to fly to Puerto Plata.

And parlay Spanysshe wyth flaccitas,

Drynking wine and presidente.

Lying downne with bygge gorditas,

Gettynge bleaujobs from bonitas.

[Cagep1967]

Ihadafriend, thatoutofplayfulness, wouldrightallhisemailswithoutspaces. Itwoulddriveuscrazyreadingthem. Whatashamethathepassedaway. Butimagineiftheforumhadnorulesonpostings, Ihopethismakesitthrough. Peacetoall.


I would love to see Jackson's POSTING GUIDELINES enforced. It would make for a better world. However, I would have a lot more respect for him if he switched off his dumbass auto-correct software. It actually makes it more difficult to write correctly. For example, it is impossible to write many place-names like Sosua correctly or use the standard abbreviation for the Dominican currency (which comes out as "roads"). And it renders this part of your post ridiculous:

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1298207]Please refrain from using the following or similar chatroom abbreviations:

The letter "I" instead of "I".

The letter "you" instead of "you".

The letter "are" instead of "are".

The letters "because" instead of "because".

The letters "your" instead of "your".

The letters "them" instead of "them".

The letters "before" instead of "before".

If the auto-correct just came with the package I could understand, as I am grateful to Jackson for maintaining this board and would be the last to wish extra work or expense onto him. But the thing is, I post on other boards using the same package, run by people with less concern for literacy than Jackson, and I don't suffer the same frustration of seeing my carefully input text mangled by some retarded robot.

Hey, do you think that is a dig at me? (Note that in this quote I could not include an ellipsis correctly because of the dumbass auto-correct).

Seriously, what provoked him to include that particular prohibition? If anyone ever posted entirely in "Olde English" I would love to read it!

[Tempoecorto]

Sure it's game, but come on man. When I put myself in the shoes: When I was 19 what did I have in common with a 50 year old woman? Not a damn thing! Sure you can always say you both like your hot dogs with mustard or some bullshit, but enough in common for a serious relationship to manifest - 0.You are right! Hence my zero interest in a "serious" relationship. I would ideally like to be an "amant". Ce sera suffisant pour moi!

BUT, I still have fun speaking with someone who can discuss Socrates or Julia Alvarez, whose book both she and I have read (my first book ever, in Spanish) , especially compared to most who have trouble writing in decent Spanish let alone anything even slightly esoteric.

[Tempoecorto]

Ihadafriend, thatoutofplayfulness, wouldrightallhisemailswithoutspaces. Itwoulddriveuscrazyreadingthem. Whatashamethathepassedaway. Butimagineiftheforumhadnorulesonpostings, Ihopethismakesitthrough. Peacetoall.Seriously? Someone actually wrote that way? LOL!

[Tempoecorto]

I think it was just a joke, Brer Pooter, but maybe he didn't want to see Chaucerian English.

Whanne that Aprille with his shoures swote.

The droght of Marche has perced to the rote.

And vertu engendered is the flor,

Thanne langen folk to fly to Puerto Plata.

And parlay Spanysshe wyth flaccitas,

Drynking wine and presidente.

Lying downne with bygge gorditas,

Gettynge bleaujobs from bonitas.YOU MADE MY DAY! A little tale from Canterbury Tales!

[Tempoecorto]

However, I would have a lot more respect for him if he switched off his dumbass auto-correct software. It actually makes it more difficult to write correctly.I second that. The "auto-correct" calls for more editing.

[Cagep1967]

Seriously? Someone actually wrote that way? LOL!Great guy. He had a great sense of humor, but a shame he got a virus that moved and infected the sack around the heart. Wound up in the hospital for quite some time, where they never caught he had cancer. They were treating him for the infection and never caught the cancer, by the time the did it had moved to all of his organs and he was gone in months.

The problem is that it was very treatable had they caught it sooner. But I guess with the other condition the doctors didn't think to look or it was an atypical presentation of the cancer.

[Tempoecorto]

Great guy. He had a great sense of humor, but a shame he got a virus that moved and infected the sack around the heart. Wound up in the hospital for quite some time, where they never caught he had cancer. They were treating him for the infection and never caught the cancer, by the time the did it had moved to all of his organs and he was gone in months.

The problem is that it was very treatable had they caught it sooner. But I guess with the other condition the doctors didn't think to look or it was an atypical presentation of the cancer.Sorry to hear about your loss!

[Mr Gogo]

Come on guys, lets get back to having fun please. I'm not even liking the Gogo forum nowadays. Why does everything have to be debated? Why does the writing have to be perfect? We all get the context and we can agree it's all about the reporting. Another problem I have is that I can't do a cleanup like Jackson does. If anyone was to tune into the Gogo forum now they would turn away asap. I want people to stay and relate and dig deeper into the forum and enjoy himself as he gets educated regarding travel and sex.

All the good in this forum is hidden as the topic has turned to Jacksons rules (which we can't change). We have gotten so far away from the goal of the Gogo forum that people don't even want to post here anymore.

I have to side with AH2 because we don't want to feel like we are in a college class and we might get a pop quiz. Tempoecorto, Frannie, and Sir Charles we know you mean well but sometimes you leave us confused by your one-sided actions.

Sir Charles, you are advertising the private party you are having at FOD in the Puerto Plata forum. I guess you didn't feel comfortable enough to show the members of this forum the same respect. That would have been a nice jester. I was the one who posted about the new FOD with pictures and a report and no one including you said thanks. DAMN! You didn't even feel I needed an invite when I'm friends with the owners? But you don't hesitate to come over here and bash the moderator.

Tempoecorto and Frannie, thanks for always supporting the Gogo forum, but it would be nice to have some trip reports or pics so people won't think you are only about educational topics related to academia. Also it would be nice if you keep it basic so people don't get lost in the long reports and miss the good substance parts. I personally like when you talk about growing up in India, thanks for sharing that part of you Tempoecorto.

Starting tomorrow I will now have to go pull some old stuff buried in the Gogo forum so people now tuning in don't think we are just about complaining about Jacksons auto correction.

AH2, feel free to post here anytime. ISG has different guys from different culture and races. We all have to find a balance where we can all learn to get along and appreciate EVERYONES posts.

Respectfully to everyone, Gogo.

[PolyOrchid]

I am not interested in scoring points or "gotcha"! All that I am saying is that women (ANYWHERE) deserve a lot more respect and here I give Tom Jackin credit for saying it aloud; he said something like. So what if they are "pro". I agree.I'll take a seat on that train, boys.

Regardless of the fact that many of us are here for pure pleasure, or at least a good part of the time, let us give thanks for the wonderful women who grace us with their beauty, their mystery, their carnal delights.

After spending the past 7 months in the USA, I am even more grateful for women in "the other world", call them what you will.

And god bless the rocky road that brought me to their doors. May I bring them even a small share of the happiness and joy they bring me.

[Savethe7]

Never fear Gogo, most of the gems here are hidden but still worth looking for. Lots of good advice in your answer to me and mostly what I had in mind anyways, never pays to flaunt anything, be comfortable but not flashy and choose your friends with care. When you are not pressed for time and can let a girl you like get to know you, then the game totally changes. There's about a half dozen guys in the DR forums that I pay close attention to and I ignore all the ego crap that goes on. I think it comes with being older but once you realize that getting hard won wisdom without having to go through the hard stuff yourself is invaluable, your whole outlook on things changes.

I may not post often just to say thanks because I don't want to spam the boards but there are a lot of guys here that appreciate all that you more experienced members share with us. I have only been able to add a bit in other forums so far but eventually my first trip to the DR will come and I can give a little back.

[Jaosousa]

Gogo,

I guess your forum is not immuned to wierdos either! LOL.

I didn't know that I had to carefully proofread and fact check my posts. It takes time and effort for some of us. Some of us lead very busy lives. Even if I had the time, I would do more with myself than sit back and disseminate posts. These amatuer intellectuals should find some academic journals forum to TRY to impress someone with their limited knowledge.

Anyway, the wind has been taken out of my sails. I understand why a few rarely post or stopped posting. I miss the old Sosua as well as the old forum convo. These wierdos rarely contribute anything connected to mongering. What is their point here? I guess it is time I fade to the background as well!

PeaceMany people are busy, who read posts on the ISG. A native English speaking person who writes posts with many errors is wasting people's time (people will have to spend more time to try and decipher what a poorly written post is saying). A person can spend an extra 1-2 minutes to proofread their post before submitting it (that is no great burden). Perfect posts are not required, but a simple and quick proofread, will eliminate some mistakes (the squiggly line under words suggests that the word might be misspelled, right click over the word with the squiggly line and correctly spelled suggestions will appear).

I don't know when in the history of mankind.

[Mr Gogo]

A report by BO yesterday in the Sosua forum. Thanks bro for your permission to repost here.

First Sosua night.

So Panman and I went our way to Sosua after 5:00 pm. Panman drives so fast and so dominican but we survived. Being in that Nissan Tilda for a few hours was a more extreme experience than bungee jumping, being on a war or voting in dominican elections (some PLD voters got jailed, threatened during election days). We arrived to Santiago in 15 minutes, or it was like it looks. We got lost a few times in Santiago so we spent over an hour going north, south, east, west, online, offline. Finally a motoconcho guy helped us and. We got lost again. We decided to take the opposite direction after we saw that welcome to Santo Domingo sign so we finally found our way to Puerto Plata. People were helpful and friendly giving us directions. Thanks to the black guy with the cart that lead us to get lost at the beginning, the man with the mucus ball hanging from his nose, the drug seller from the corner, the motoconcho driver and the other hundred people that helped us to know the entire Santiago city.

Panman was tired so he asked me to give him Patron tequila shot each time we survived a dangerous street obstacle. The bottle got empty 15 minutes before arriving to Sosua. So we finally arrived around 10 pm. Quick check in at Sea Breeze, $40 per night taxes included. This hotel is very convenient for people with rental cars because it has a gated parking.

We went up to our rooms to get a shower and hit the strip. It took a couple of hours for the little air conditioner to cool the room a little. I moved my rock bed under the air conditioner unit to get the best of it. I went to take a shower and after I moved a couple of pigeon feathers and spiders out of the tub I took a nice shower.

Sosua dress code for guys is dress whatever you want except caps inside Classicos. Security there is more efficient finding hidden caps than finding guns. We headed to the Pedro Clisante strip. This time the crowd was smaller than last February Super Bowl weekend. We entered the outside bar next to Classicos and took a couple of seats. Less than a minute later a couple of girls were around us. A 36 yr. Old from Santiago sat next to me. She was wearing glasses and a nice cleavage. She looks younger than 30 but she insisted she was 36. She was good company, always smiling. Panman had five or six girls seducing him during that span of time, including a Haitian girl. He used my 10 dollars phone to store some numbers. The girl next to me told me a story about a puertorican guy she met a month ago, the guy bet her hair was artificial (extensions). If he loses he had to pay her 4, 000 pesos. He loses the bet and paid her. I did not believe her story; I infer she was indirectly giving her price for sex. Minutes later I asked how much, she told me 3, 500 pesos. I told her last February I paid no more than 1, 000 pesos. She told me no girl is going out for 1, 000 pesos but she went down from 3, 500 to 1, 500 in less than five minutes. So we walked to the hotel and had a decent sex session, good, not spectacular, it was girl friendly.

We went back to the strip and Panman was still there at the bar, we spent a few minutes there and go back to our hotel. He called one of the girls and they met in front of New Garden. A very ugly halloweenic woman was on the street offering blowjobs. The Haitian arrived and went upstairs with Panman. I was hungry and decided to go back to the strip to get some food. I interacted with a few chicas while waiting for my cheeseburger and tostones, I grabbed her tits and asses, licked a couple of nipples, the usual. This trip I had more interaction with the chicas. My experience was that there is a considerable, nut huge but notable percent of the girls with drug and or mental issues.

So my burger was ready, I decided to eat it in my room. A group of motoconcho guys saw me with the food and their reaction when they saw me was a little scary: 'hey, give me that food, I am hungry'. He jumped from the moto and I was under the impression he was going to steal my food, but he stopped and went back to his moto. Surreal scene. I entered Sea Breeze premises and heard the noises of a girl screaming. Panman was banging the haitiana and she was screaming something that sounds like this: baiser mon cul que je vais baiser votre plus tard! Baiser mon cul que je vais baiser votre plus tard! I ate my food while watching television using binoculars. I finished with my food at the same time Panman finished eating the haitiana. He was hungry for food so I went back to the strip with him. He ordered some food while he paid me a beer. A couple of mentally challenged girls went for us, and we played with them a little. I took down a little the dress of one of the girls to have a better look of her tits. I paid a beer to one of the girls. The girls were rubbing their bodies against ours, the seducing game was on. I went to the bathroom for a couple of minutes, when I came back Panman told me the girls almost had a fight. Panman finished his food and paid a 200 pesos meal to one of the girls. The other girl also wanted a meal and I said ok. 200 pesos no big deal. We went to order and the cashier told they were closed. We leave the place and the girl kept asking for 200 pesos for food. I told her they closed the place so ask your friend to share her meal with you. But she wanted her own meal, or the 200 pesos. I told her good bye but she kept following us, walking besides us on Dr. Rosen. She entered hotel premises with us and gave her cedula to security, we told him she followed us from the strip and he escorted her out. It was near 5:00 am when I decided to get offline.

[GreenAndYellow]

Thanks Gogo and Tempoecorto,

I really feel welcome now at this forum and will be placing more reports soon if thats ok with you.

Mr Gogo.

Quote Originally Posted by GreenAndYellow [View Original Post]

Wow dude I didn't know that you got so stressed about my post. I'm sorry but you're right english is my third language I speak 5 so somethings got to swith grammar. I'm sorry for this I hope you still understand my posts though, I'm trying my best to explain the situation in english as I can. So tempocoerto, sorry for my bad grammar but I hope you understand.

Classy response dude.

[Mr Gogo]

Written a little different.

Sorry I've got some of my days running together so I'm going to try and catch up on this post. So, I'm going to start with tonight and write backwards.

Tonight, I just dropped of and online chica that I've been talking with for about 3 or 4 months. Lets call her maria. She seems a lot smarter then the rest of these knuckle heads that I've been hooking up with. However, she is married but she says her man doesn't pay her any attention, whatever. I just took her home. She came over about 9pm we worked on my spanish, we started messing around. I pulled out my junk and with a little coaching she went in. BBBJ asked me to turn off the lights so we did the doo for a while. I finished up then she says she had to go we showered and out the door we went. No money exchanged, although she got the complimentary box of chocolates jajaj. She paid for her own taxi to come see we.

Last night, maria (as listed above) , invited me out to a night club for her girls biday part. La Barricana (sp) on Av. Venezuela-where all the trendy bars are. I was sure to dress with polo shirt long pants and loafers as no to get denied access as had happened to me at club Woow. I show up all the girls are cute 2 morenas and 2 blancas. Maria is a short short light morena with medium length stawberry blond hair and big titts and a little thicker not fat just not flaca. We did the introductions the best looking one was the taller blanquita with longer hair and a thin frame. This girl kept asking me for wing men. But as you all know sadly I'm on my own for a while. All night they were asking for men. I made up so story and so they are anticipating to show up with men soon. We danced and talked they are very nice and the place is very cool they have lots of AC and fans everywhere. I was surprised that they didn't try to break me they ordered the crowd favorite Prez light. Thank God. So we had about 4 of them and they help pay. I can't believe it though I stayed to 3 am when the club closed. Believe me I was tired as hell but they wouldn't let me leave. I tried to get Maria to leave with me because I was getting mix signals from her. When we first started chatting is was "BBBL where going to hook up whenever you get here. To I'm married and I have a man". So might though was I have a friend and maybe I can get one of here friends. She was holding my hand caressing me and blah blah blah. As we were leaving she let her friends get away from us while walking out. She pushed me in a corner and started kissing me. I toook them home and I tried to get her to go to a cabana with me but again I'm married. I have an esposo.

I went to Mega Central to pick up the chica from my second day in town not so pretty flaca with hell sex appeal. As I was in the parking lot waiting guess who drives up. Maria? Whaaaa? She sees me I go over and talk we had a good laugh and she invites me too La barranica to party for her girls Bday. So flaca finally get there. I take here back to the house I feed her a chocolate covered meal replacement bar. She tought she was really getting good chocolate. Jajaj whatever helps. We do out thing BBBL doggie mish. Etc. I get two leches and tell her I'm late for an appointment which broke her little heart because she was planing to spend the night. Uh oh. Jajaja. I politely told her I thought I was only going to get a couple of house like is normal she says her dad is away and her brother will cover for her. Damn. Ahhhh. Sorrry I had other plans. Boy she was pissed. Then fuck'and Maria calls asking me to come. Damn. I had just defused the situation now you know what is next."is that your puta is that where your going". Ignored. Get your shit and lets go. I kinda like this chica she's smart and full of savvy but her damn breath stinks and I can't get past that shit. When I dropped her off at home I forgot to give her money. She was bitching about a dress I was suppose to buy her. I think that was a hint about money but, I missed it. I'll get her next time. If I feel like it.

The night before that yesterday. My big booty chica from the first night I hit town came buy my place. Let call her Lexy. Lexy if you can remember is the one with the big ass that is cute and makes me laugh a lot. We'll I picked her up for the corner by my house she took a gua gua practically to the house but I didn't want to spend a year on the phone trying to explain how to get exactly to my house so I bought some sugar cane sat in the car and people watch on the corner as I waited. The talent walking around is amazing. From what I learned if your get eye contact from chica you like go for it. More than likely she has "stamped you-fuckable". So big booty Lexy came over. Off the room we went. We play with her homework I got her to stop by before class. She's reading to me and trying to explain what sounds like Chinese math done under water. I just smile and nod alot. I know she thinks I an idiot. Jajajaj Next, I stripper her she strips me. That ass is amazing. Her body is not a tight as the other chicas with her shape but she's still hot. She actually thinks she's bigger than she actually is. Its just her ass and thighs. She is a BBBL keeper. Oh yeah she's got a man remember. Jajaja. I drop her off at school La UAS and give her 50 pesos she didn't ask for.

After I drop off Lexy. I call up another online chica I haven't put that much work into but I've laid some ground work. I don't remember if I mentioned her yet. She's hmmm Erica. She about 5'10 super flaca with ttits. I told her I wanted to see her and I was going toward her house. She agreed. She lives in Las Mellia which is about 20 to 30 mintues up for La Julia where I'm staying. I would not advise anyone to go here. It remind me on New York on crack. Tons and Tons of people out all the time. If your car breaks down you might be in some trouble. Anyway. I went to her house and I knew what I was in for when she says she was there with her family. Damn. Ok. Whatever. I meet the mom brother and cousin. They start with the damn interview. Ah ah yah. So erica tell me to make up some bullshit story as to why I need her to leave with me. I do and off we went. I'm thinking were going straight to my house for some action as she's been over here 2 time before and was playing games. No, she had other ideas for us. We went to Hotel Hostal Nomadas, she love this place. Its ok. I tried somethink different that I picked up on another date. I had already eaten and wasn't hungry and I only ordered juice. She was obviously disappointed and ordered the same. Are you serious? Ok ok I can dig this. We talked for a while. Now Ercia is the model type talk pretty great smile and hot. She says she has a headache perfect I have Advil's in my room lets go. I paid the bill and off we went she wasn't that enthused from what I saw. But whatever I've put in a few dates worth for that Pussy. We get to the house we start kissing here come the games. You know I have a man. We are suppose to be brother and sister your my big brother nonsense. So after about 30 minutes of trying to pull and wrest away more love that was it. I rolled over because I was bored and then she said she got to go. No sex I paid her taxi home. I told her I will be busy indefinitely. Lets see what she does. She called me tonight however I was busy this night too.

Peace,

BBBL

[Mr Gogo]

written on the walls.

the preface to this story is i've been wrong before, i could be wrong and i can guarantee you i'll be wrong again.

so, remember the beautiful tall slender morena i met at eagle bar lets call her lisa, well tonight was our date. i went to visit her at her job last week and she told me how boring her job is and how men don't treat her right so she has been single for months and months. the last guy carried on an affair with her for nearly a year before she caught him. see he already had a girlfriend and lied to her and told her he was single. (sounds like a side chick story to me- but lets be open minded) now, gentlemen when i see this women all i see is $$$. this women is well put together and look too expensive for me. remember soy tacano hasta la muerte jajaj. but, she had me thinking about it.

she promised to show me around sdq and spend the whole day with me and end our night at the movies. i called her today very early to leave a nice message on her voice mail. she called me back hours later telling me that she is unavailable until later. i won't say strike but that was a little ding. around 5 she calls me looking for me to pick her up, she live in villa mella. remember villa mella, the thin flaquita that is playing game with me, i'm her big brother but we kiss and when it starts getting hot she has to leave. right! well she lives up there and its hell driving up there and this chicas wants me to get her around 5 as she awoke me from my nap. back to sleep i went for another hour. made no difference, the traffic was murderous. i liken it to being in unfettered complete disorganization and pure kasos. so about hour and half to go about 15 miles. i finally get to her area, she advised me she was arriving by taxi to our designated meet location, damn 200+ pesos to start off. she arrives, damn she pays her own taxi. she arrived in a tight strapless dress with her size b breast forced in there good put still popping out a little. she was draped in gold and her hair was perfect. to top it off she had a gucci purse uhh ohhh. run! (a little to much make up-she doesn't need it but wears a lot). off we go to blue mall and acropolis.

we walk around a while, i have cafe she has wine. she tells me she waiting for a man to steal her heart, she is a princess. then she starts talking about having memories of this day. these two malls are high high in malls. nothing worth having under 250 us out of these places. i skillfully ignored the passive request. she was saying all the right things but acting completely opposite of what she was saying. now, don't get me wrong this girl is hot sexy guy were breaking their necks looking at her and looking at me like really? but, i know i can't afford her. so, when we got to the movie theater she said no movie today she has to see her grandfather okkk. but, she wanted to have drinks. she tried to get us in the high end techno place at acropolise, i saw that coming and dogged that. we jumped in the car i suggested a calmado, she scoffed at the idea ok thank you. she picked some highend liquor store to stop at. we went in and stuff what high. she already told me that coming back to my place was out but, i tried any way. i let her know i had drinks here at my place. she distinctively said i'm not going to your place. she was hovering around that jonny black and expesive wines. i said presidente light she rebuked me and said corona ok i can do that. no lime no salt, no she doesn't want it. ok. i'm done we can go now. not yet, back to the wines we go. she sees i'm not going for it so she just got us 2 sangria type drinks in a blue bottle. la barenga or something.

i took her to her "grandfathers place" and i went shopping for the home. no sex no money exchanged.

in my opinion this girl is well kept and is looking for another sugar daddy. if i could afford it i might think about it but i'm tacano its hard for me to go for a deal like that.

peace bbl

[Mr Gogo]

Strip show at BB.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtD4kzDMsg8

[Mr Gogo]

My tribute to SD. Carnival 2012.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgOv1U98CUo

[Mr Gogo]

A video by Gogo from 2010.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnVdrLXTaPE&feature=youtu.be

[Mr Gogo]

Starting to make sense.

Ok. I just got home from dropping off The dark chocolate chica I spoke about before. Remember the one I met at mega central, the tall dark one that I said happens to be extremely photogenic. Which meant we had a photo to live chica malfunction. Well we hung out today. I had her help me prepare for a party I'm hosting with my classmates and 2 or 3 Dominican instructors from my school. 2 of my instructors are absolutely irresistible and one other that is a little frio till you warm her up. I'll come back to why she is frio with me tho. Back to the 2 the other two chicas. 1 is about 5'6 165 lbs ALL ASS! Light complecteion w / out one blemish on her face. Natural dirty blond flat stomach and about an amble A or a small B cup. This girl is a perfect pear shape. OMG I've my pear shaped women. Small waist small breasts and small ass. She is always smiling and giggling. So hard no to look at her. Lets call her Wilmah. The other is cute but no where close to Wilmah but she is sexy azz hell. Tall Slender like a size 2 light completion no ass but Titts with 2 doces of sex appeal. When she looks at me I think she knows I'm a mongerer. We just haven't put it out there yet. She's Rosa. The third is Maria. A slim morena with long black hair also a size 3 but her Titts are ridiculous. They have to be D's. She's lucky not to need a kick stand under them things with her tiny frame. But he's always covered up even when its hot as hell outside. Unlike Rosa that show her twin towers every time she can. Which is every damn day. Maria and I started calling each other Carino and amor yesterday. So, lets she what happeneds with that.

Anyway, The other day in class Maria invited herself. 2 of the school staff and my classmates to my house so I can cook for them. I was like yeah sure following thru with the joke until today. When I got to school today they had the list of foods out whose bringing what, how much, where going to the movies after. Damn. Ahhhh oh shit. Ahhh. Ok. Sounds like Recon to me. But I'm' game bring it.

So, I enlisted the help of the tall slender chocolate chica from mega central. She needs a name, lets give her a name ok. She's Johanny. We went to about 5 stores getting all the ingredients for my dish, Espaghettis in spanish and Spaghetti in ingles ajajaj. Yeah. We get back to the house she begins cutting onions, preparing the meats I have 2 different meat. I'm somewhat of a unofficial chef, I think I made mention of that in class which has me typing this now. So while Johanny was preparing everything I started looking again at her stomach and remembering how small she was in the pictures and how something was not rite. How can this bee the same girl. I was thinking Damn I was just a few months late to see her at her peak of sexiness. Turns of she is a few damn months late! Jajaaj The girls is two months prego!

She was playing the role of the good girl. How she doesn't go to cabana's and how she doesn't have a BF and how she's doing school and staying away from guy etc. SOB! Jaja While she was cooking I was messing with her dancing to the music that was playing and tickling her when I felt her stomach and it was low I mean the bump was really low and it was hard and she slapped my hand I covered herself. Bingo! Prego women always, instinctively go to protect that baby. To bad her dumb ass didn't protect the baby from them fuck'and president light we sucked down the other night. I just hate that shit! She also told me she went out last week. She didn't say she was drinking there but still. I know prez light are flavored water but still man.

So she finished up the food prep I didn't say anything else about the baby and I stopped with the BF joke and just made other jokes. We hada good time and she can't wait to see me again. HMMMM. But didin't you just try and trap me. Not really but close? Because all the hanging out you would have led to me eventually me getting some and if I wasn't as savvy as I am then. Well whatever. Oh yeah. I so I gave Johanny her complementary box of chocolates and she got a bonus gift of $10 watch courtesy Walwart, she's was the first one to be really happy about her gifts.

I almost forgot Maria is Frio to me. So I don't know if I made metion that I used the brute force method for meeting chicas online. I didin't even care what they looked like or where they were. I didn't fuck'able and non'fuck'able. I didn't this several times Well turns out Maria was one of those chicas So, when she saw me at the spanish school she was happy to see me but I had know clue who'and the hell she was. I didn't' even remember her page. So, when I saw her I hit on her and she gave me her number, but she was thinking I was just being discrete. I never called. So now were at two weeks and I haven't called her but I notice she had become cold and saying mean things to me and I don't even know her for her not to like me.

So one day I sent out a bulk email to a bunch of chias. She with responded with I can't believe you don't know who I am. WTF. I read the email address OH shit. NO NO NO it can't be. It was her name. I put the email address in the search bar of the popular networking site. U already knows whose picture pops up. Damn! How do you respond? I responded blaming her, she didn't respond. The next day she walks into the school and walks rite by me and nothing. Later I asked her hey didn't you happen to check you're email. She rushed over with finger in my face,"how surprising ehhhh?". Ahhhhh ok BBBL you got this. Baby amor I sorry. Mi cielo. Lets try this again. She walks off.

So now when we have to speak out loud in class I'm always saying things in spanish about how pretty she is and how her eyes sparkle and her smile has more power then the sun. Blah blah blah. She was cold as ice when I first started doing it but now she is laugh becuse I'm making a complete ass of myself in front of the class. Its easy to say because she is damn hot. Her titts can smother a full grown man to death. Jajaaj. They all laugh at me. Jajaj.

Peace.

BBBL

[Mr Gogo]

Quick weekend hit.

Left MIA on Friday 27th, followed my usual routine of not telling any chicas I'm coming, this gives me a day to check out the new inventory before I fall back to the regulars. Arrived POP, tipped the musicians, and played the taxi game. I offered 20usd, they say 25, I walk away and they get pissed and come get me. The taxi guy makes me load my own luggage, jumps into drive and turns off the a / see. (Damn he takes 5 dollars seriously). As we pull up to Europa I see my beach bunny working a new job at Domino bar, I casually slide down in the seat and tuck my hat as we drive by. Check in freshen up and the taxi guy for Europa sitting out front says it's carnival in Puerto plata on the Malecon. We go there. Women were everywhere, Rageaton music, Scantily dressed chicas, All grinding to the music. It seems the chicas were all ready to fuck in the street. Alot were young girls, but this was just a spectators sport for me. At midnight I tell driver vamos, and he drops me at Classicos. The open bar club on the corner, across from meringue is my scout spot. From there you can see the girls coming on moto concho and taxi's. You can also see sosua life, latino's, and merengue bar. This one stunner draws my attention. I finish my Cuba libre quickly, as she seems overwelmed by the activities. I drop a cien peso bill on the bar and move within kill range. She walks over by the bottom of the stairs to Classicos, but turns and walks away. I'm 15 feet behind stalking her fine ass. She doesn't seem to know anyone, then she ask's a chica something. The chica points to the right for el banos. Information processed, I got to have her. I pop a trident gum, put my sunglasses on, and tug my hat for good luck. When she exits the bathroom I say hola, introduce myself and make eye contact. Her palms were rough, hands strong and had a naive way about herself (Campo girl). I tell her I'm going to Classicos and she can join me for a cervasa. Classico's is packed standing room only. One of the waiters who I tip well taps me on the shoulder and says follow him. Next to the dance floor is a table with two high back barstools. But 2 haitian girls are there with no driks but thier purses on the table. The waiter tells the Haitians to go, and they leave their chairs and grab their purses. The girl and I sit down but I tell the haitians their purses can stay (I want to see them shake their asses in front of me). I check my watch because domino bar closes at 2am Then the coast will be clear. At 2:30am We hop a moto conch in front of classicos to go staight to Europa. Latinos (on left) passing Lous and Seacrets (on right) then O SHIT! Domino bar is still open. I tuck my head to the right to hide, and didn't know my that hat knocked the girls ear ring off. She yells ear ring in spanish, the moto concho guy brakes, and I say nooooo. He does a you-turn and stops right in front of Domino bar. I hear my sosua name yelled from behind the bar. I look up stupidly and say "hola mi amor"I say mas tarde and go to europa. At Europa the campo girl doesn't know how to check her cedula. She keeps standing there waiting for it to be retuned. She doesn't want to go until her cedula is returned. We finally get to the room and I start stripping. She goes in the bathroom. I put on channel 32 (porn channel) sit back and stroke my dick in antisapation. She comes out in bra and panties and her phone in 3 pieces. She said it got wet in the bathroom, I said"forget that" and"take off the bra and panties and get over here'. She comes to the bed and starts bouncing her phone on the bed trying to get the water out. I'm thinking is that sink water of toilet water? I finally get her naked and she starts kissing my chest. I grab her hand and push it south. She starts yanking my dick trying to pull it off. I say no and push her head there. Then she starts sucking me real fast. I point to the tv wher the guy was getting some slow head, now she's cooking. She went down to lick my balls, but then starts sucking them real hard. My balls rolling in her mouth was not very comfortable. So I strap up and mount her missionary. Then we reverse cowgirl while I was grabbing her tits and her riding me. Then we did doggie, I grabbed her hair pulled back then forward, now the ass was up where I wanted. She tried to run by going down to her stomach, but I was still with her. Then the girl rolls on her side and says "no mas"WHAT THE FUCK. Part two later.

[Mr Gogo]

part two.

"what the fuck". i figure this night is a failure and call it quits. the girl snuggles up to my chest, moans and says buenos noches. the morning sex was better. i awoke excited, rubbed her ass, and started humping her leg. she grabbed a condom, put it on and guided me in. one position, missionary, very slow and passionate. two stinky breath mother fuckers making love. after sex i laid my days clothes out and took a shower. she made the bed and took a shower after me. one thing i never do is give the girls money in their hands. i feel it lowers their dignity, and mine. so while she is in the shower i put 2000 pesos under her purse. got dressed, gave her change for moto concho and walked her out. she asks for my number, but i haven't brought a phone yet. went to 4 roses bar at 11am to watch the city awaken. eight moto concho boys posted up like birds on a wire. beautiful women coming out to do their saturday chores. hustlers hawking shoe shines, ice cream, oysters, paintings, cell phones and the chicken man getting his grill ready. i purchase cell phone for 300 pesos with 100 minuters on it. went for aternoon walk, got a massage (no sex) for 500 pesos. went to siempe sol, met a couple new york boys who kept buying me rum. went to europa for afternoon nap. called dominoe bar chick at 6pm. she is pissed but i quickly kill that shit by telling her i have a gift for her. i tell her to meet me at europa at 8pm. got some el polo (chicken) from guy across from 4 roses. got back to europa at 8:15. she is seated in the lobby waiting, so we go to the room. miami airport has this store called "everything for ten dollars" i bought a big desighner purse, earring set, and hand purse (30usd). once in the room i say"yo tengo un regalo para ti. alli. (i have gift for you). i sit back and watch her excitement as her eyes light up with every gift. she smiles and says "i want to fuck you so bad."she pounces and literally [CodeWord124] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124) me, i relax and let her have her way with me. she fucks me so good that i don't want any other pussy this trip. we go to my scout spot across from classicos at 11pm. we in chill mode, just doing the romantic thing. i'm not even paying attention to my surroundings. when campo girl walks up and kisses me in the mouth, as if she didn't give a fuck about my girl. my girl gets up cussing, i grab campo girls arm and move her away. in a very deep voice i say"hablamos manana"twice. she tries to kiss me but i push her away, then she breaks into tears. i go back to my girl, turn my back to campo girl, and sip my drink. chicas at the bar look at me like i'm a dog. my girl keeps saying"su novia". i have to get out this bullshit, so i flip the script. i say my moto concho friend say she fucks different guys every night (i'm lying) then i say she is a punta siempre. she's cursing me out, so i pay my bill and walk away solo. i go to pj's to think. i remember this waitress at the bar across from rockys. she is brown skin with the most perfect ass. i got to have her. i take the back way, bank poplar, passing new gardens, around the turn, she is there. i'm buying me and her drinks letting her know this is our night. she gets off at 2am. but i know my girl is going to be at europa because her gifts and clothes are in my room (damn). i leave the bar solo head to europa and there she is. we don't say anything, just go to room snuggle and go to sleep. i fly out tomorrow.

[Mr Gogo]

gogo annual isg awards.

first i would like to thank everyone who responded. the first annual gogo awards is purely for humor no need for anyone to take offense. i've excluded all members that i have met in order to be fair (except player of the year who i have personally observed in action).

1) honorary recipient:

this gentleman can be an asshole at times, but his intelligence is evident. he has offered help with several newbies in puerto plata. his advise in the forums is always helpful. and there is no question he is on a island we all hope to reach when we retire. to be seventy having a young haitiana fucking you silly.

the honoray award winner is (drum roll). sir charles pooter.

2) best newbie report:

this was my hardest category to judge. with oakie, westy and several others stepping up to deliever. but one stood out, who can forget junior?

best newbie award winner is. coolie high.

3) most hated poster:

one guy stands out hands down. personally i think he has returned under another handle.

the winner of most hated poster is. aayyppoopi.

4) most underappreciated poster:

this guy rubs alot of people the wrong way. some think he is arrogant, cockey, and full of himself. personally i think he is confident with who he is and knows his shit. he is very smart and says some"george jetson future shit" that most people don't understand. his intelligence can be intimadating to some but i think it is under appreciated here. i have never responded to any of his reports and he has never responded to mine, but the respect from me is there.

the winner of this award is. ad.

4) poster i would most want to meet:

bq would win this hands down but we talk (and laugh) all the time so i feel i know him already. but there is one guy that says some smart shit in a nice way with humor. i can see myself having a drink at a bar having a great conversation. but wait there is another guy who shoots straight and takes no shit that i wouldn't mind hanging with.

the co-winners of posters i would want to meet are. e. hunter and mhl.

5) most over rated poster:

this guy says some silly shit sometimes. sometimes his posts get him in trouble. his writing needs improvement along with some of his ideas. but he is open minded and sincere.

the winner of the most overrated poster is. mr gogo.

the last category i have reserved for people i have personally seen in action. the "player of the year" category was very difficult.

6) player of the year:

this was tough. jao with his perfect spanish and smooth dancing, chief and koki with their smooth styles, bbl with his sense of adventure and kind heart, kutha who is just fun, and all the other good dudes.

but one guy stands out. when this guy checks into a hotel other guys check out. if you got a room near his room don't plan on sleeping at night. he bangs pussy loudly all night. i've seen him scanning a bar looking for that special one then swoop in and steal her from two guys that were already there. he has self confidence in a laid back way.

winner of player of the year is. sabor.

all winners get your choice of any sosua girl currently being held in the sosua jail

[Mr Gogo]

Now Everyone Needs a Residency VISA

June 8, 2012 By Dr. Ramon Alburquerque.

The New Dominican Immigration Regulation requires for EVERYONE that wants to get a Residency Permit in Dominican Republic to get a Residence Visa. This is for EVERY FOREIGNER, EVEN if you do not require a visa to enter Dominican Republic. From now on YOU ARE NOT able to apply for residency if you are in Dominican Republic with a Tourist Card. So if you want to live here, apply for a Residency Visa in your country at your Nearest Dominican Consulate. If you are already here, you must go back to your country and apply at the Dominican Consulate. Some lawyers might not know what I've just explained, but it's because this part of the New Immigration Regulation has only come into execution last Friday. So now you must get a residency visa in your nearst Dominican Consulate, and your lawyer takes care of getting you your residency permit in Dominican Republic. Check link for more: June 2012 Archives.

http://immigrationexpertsdr.com/2012/06/

[Mr Gogo]

http://dominicantoday.com/dr/tourism/2012/6/15/44044/American-marks-10-years-in-Santiago-with-2nd-flight-to-Miami-for-summer

[Mr Gogo]

Four Roses girls back in the day.

[MiamiHeatLuver]

Four Roses girls back in the day.Good times at roses then next door at dominos! Thats my corner of the bar too bro or the adjacent one, close to the talent walking on the street with their johns or the putas walking south to the action.

[Mr Gogo]

MHL, here are some more old four roses girls. Eubie, Michelle, and crazy Anny.

[Llttf]

Good times at roses then next door at dominos! Thats my corner of the bar too bro or the adjacent one, close to the talent walking on the street with their johns or the putas walking south to the action.My first trip in 2004 I spent most nights at Dominoes, hardly ever went up to Merengue Bar area. That was where the action was back then.

[Mr Gogo]

My first trip in 2004 I spent most nights at Dominoes, hardly ever went up to Merengue Bar area. That was where the action was back then.That end is my private playground when I need an escape from the Classicos end. Most guys don't want to wait till 3am to fuck one of them. But you can always get them on their days off. Most of them have to much dignity to walk the streets, so they get my respect.

[Blk Big Bootyluv]

Hahaha I fucked that dark one. Remember that was 2009 I think. We agreed 1200 for a short time. She came to my room at Europa like 3 when 4 roses closed. She fucked me till the sun came up. She was a negra beast. Fucking and sucking me. I really felt like I was inside of a washing machine. She was thin but her fuck muscle was so powerful. She was throwing me around the bed. She was riding me like she was a wild stallion. Crazy!

Peace.

BBL.


Four Roses girls back in the day.
Four Roses girls back in the day.

[Mr Gogo]

Hahaha I fucked that dark one. Remember that was 2009 I think. We agreed 1200 for a short time. She came to my room at Europa like 3 when 4 roses closed. She fucked me till the sun came up. She was a negra beast. Fucking and sucking me. I really felt like I was inside of a washing machine. She was thin but her fuck muscle was so powerful. She was throwing me around the bed. She was riding me like she was a wild stallion. Crazy!

Peace.

BBL.Yeah, I remember you telling me she was a firecracker. I don't let many guys eat at my table, feel privileged. But you never repeated with her, why? I know, I know, It's all about New pussy with you. But give me a cute firecracker like that and she goes into the rotation unti she fucks up.

[Mr Gogo]

There have been major changes in Sosua recently. Several people I have talked to told me whats going on a few days ago, so I waited to see if anyone else would post about it.

Gran Velejo formerly Latinos is Closed. No one knows why but is should reopen soon, maybe. The bar across from NewGardens with the bikes and fancy bar has closed. La Roca is supposed to reopen this week with new owners. Terra Linda has raised prices again. Europa is selling all its units for 25k. Rockys has a new cook and the ribs arent as good as before. Willie of Latinos fame has a new place next to Rumbas. The problem seems to be that Sosua has become a weekend town and during the week merchants are hurting.

[Mr Gogo]

From today's Sosua News:

It is low season for tourism in the Dominican Republic. You notice this also in Sosúa because at night it is not as busy as usual in the bars and restaurants of the beach town. Also on the beach is not as busy, according to the owners of the beach chairs, bars and shops. In the weekends it is crowded. Then many Americans visit Sosúa to enjoy the nightlife. Many Dominicans use the special offers at Casa Marina Resort. But it is also an opportunity for entrepreneurial companies to innovate. The beautifully furnished rental for sports bikes (with spacious bar) 'Reydey Motors Rentals' is now closed. Everything is cleared out, even the shiny stools are removed from the concrete floor. Not only the bar, but also the motors have disappeared. We could not figure out why this business has closed. Also bar / nightclub Gran Velero is closed and the the reason remains unknown. El Cultivo is also in other hands. This bar has welcomed Willy El Chamo as the new owner. More good news: La Roca restaurant, which is located in the oldest building in Sosúa (ca. 1890) is after months of closure, again opened by a new owner. A visit to this legendary restaurant, formerly the Casa Grande and then a Colmado, is quite worthwhile. But also see activities in the bar / nightclub Seacrets which has been closed for months, maybe more than a year. The workers there say that the bar is rebuilt and will be open again in October.

[Mr Gogo]

Killing daytime at Newgardens back in the day.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFGjgAnxC4w&feature=youtu.be

[Llttf]

There have been major changes in Sosua recently. Several people I have talked to told me whats going on a few days ago, so I waited to see if anyone else would post about it.

Gran Velejo formerly Latinos is Closed. No one knows why but is should reopen soon, maybe. The bar across from NewGardens with the bikes and fancy bar has closed. La Roca is supposed to reopen this week with new owners. Terra Linda has raised prices again. Europa is selling all its units for 25k. Rockys has a new cook and the ribs arent as good as before. Willie of Latinos fame has a new place next to Rumbas. The problem seems to be that Sosua has become a weekend town and during the week merchants are hurting.La Roca reopened three weeks ago. Had a good plata del dia there for 125 pesos.

[SavePros321]

There have been major changes in Sosua recently. Several people I have talked to told me whats going on a few days ago, so I waited to see if anyone else would post about it.

Gran Velejo formerly Latinos is Closed. No one knows why but is should reopen soon, maybe. The bar across from NewGardens with the bikes and fancy bar has closed. La Roca is supposed to reopen this week with new owners. Terra Linda has raised prices again. Europa is selling all its units for 25k. Rockys has a new cook and the ribs arent as good as before. Willie of Latinos fame has a new place next to Rumbas. The problem seems to be that Sosua has become a weekend town and during the week merchants are hurting.Thanks for the info. Funny how Willie sold Latinos/Grand Valero and now has a place directly across from his old spot, LOL. Grand Valero was empty just about every night I was there; including the weekend. Don't know the reason for it though. I do remember that the few times I did hang at Latinos before the crackdown (Old Sosua) the drinks were priced higher than Merengue Bar, which is why I did not visit Latinos often.

Don't know how long Terra Linda is going to stay in business asking for $99 a night for a Queen room. Maybe if they got rid of the one little stool they put in your room and replaced it with a couch then it might be worth it. That and the little tv that is best viewed with binoculars. Also don't know why the changed the color of the walls of the rooms from white to a peach color. Completely fucked up the ambiance for me.

I though June and July was the months that the Euros flocked to Sosua in abundance for their "Holiday"? The "Sosua News" article only mentions the American "weekend crew". Shit must be just as bad (if not worse) than our current economic situation in the US. The beach was pretty dead when I was there as well. Didn't see any hot chicas around at all save for a waitress or two. All the locals were smart enough to bring sand to the beach (their own chica).

[Ath Trainer]

Killing daytime at Newgardens back in the day.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFGjgAnxC4w&feature=youtu.beAnd I thought the french toast I had for breakfast there was good, LOL.

[Beagle0030]

From today's Sosua News:

It is low season for tourism in the Dominican Republic. You notice this also in Sosúa because at night it is not as busy as usual in the bars and restaurants of the beach town. Also on the beach is not as busy, according to the owners of the beach chairs, bars and shops. In the weekends it is crowded. Then many Americans visit Sosúa to enjoy the nightlife. Many Dominicans use the special offers at Casa Marina Resort. But it is also an opportunity for entrepreneurial companies to innovate. The beautifully furnished rental for sports bikes (with spacious bar) 'Reydey Motors Rentals' is now closed. Everything is cleared out, even the shiny stools are removed from the concrete floor. Not only the bar, but also the motors have disappeared. We could not figure out why this business has closed. Also bar / nightclub Gran Velero is closed and the the reason remains unknown. El Cultivo is also in other hands. This bar has welcomed Willy El Chamo as the new owner. More good news: La Roca restaurant, which is located in the oldest building in Sosúa (ca. 1890) is after months of closure, again opened by a new owner. A visit to this legendary restaurant, formerly the Casa Grande and then a Colmado, is quite worthwhile. But also see activities in the bar / nightclub Seacrets which has been closed for months, maybe more than a year. The workers there say that the bar is rebuilt and will be open again in October.The Gran Velero was closed the last few days, but they have been working on it. It looks to open tonight as the El Nuevo Mundo Del Toro. There is a 100 peso entrance fee but includes a drink.

It is amazing how quickly things can change in a day. There seems to be two to three times the number of people on the streets from yesterday. I am at the New Garden and the "Reydey Motors Rentals" is closed. It looks like they used sledgehammers to get the stools out.

Not sure about the new price at the Terra Linda, but they seem to have more and more signs out for new dishes and cocktails. In another week, there won't be any place left to plaster signs.

But do not worry. There are lots and lots of pretty girls out.

[Combo]

Thanks for the info. Funny how Willie sold Latinos / Grand Valero and now has a place directly across from his old spot, LOL. Grand Valero was empty just about every night I was there; including the weekend. Don't know the reason for it though. I do remember that the few times I did hang at Latinos before the crackdown (Old Sosua) the drinks were priced higher than Merengue Bar, which is why I did not visit Latinos often.

Don't know how long Terra Linda is going to stay in business asking for $99 a night for a Queen room. Maybe if they got rid of the one little stool they put in your room and replaced it with a couch then it might be worth it. That and the little tv that is best viewed with binoculars. Also don't know why the changed the color of the walls of the rooms from white to a peach color. Completely fucked up the ambiance for me.

I though June and July was the months that the Euros flocked to Sosua in abundance for their "Holiday"? The "Sosua News" article only mentions the American "weekend crew". Shit must be just as bad (if not worse) than our current economic situation in the US. The beach was pretty dead when I was there as well. Didn't see any hot chicas around at all save for a waitress or two. All the locals were smart enough to bring sand to the beach (their own chica).

No way T. Linda is worth that. I stayed there a couple years ago for, I think $79 / night and I thought that was too much. Place was virtually empty for my week there.

I was thinking they must be a money-laundering operation, because they certainly weren't bringing in much revenue. Much prefer N. Garden or even Casa Valeria.

[Mr Gogo]

No way T. Linda is worth that. I stayed there a couple years ago for, I think $79 / night and I thought that was too much. Place was virtually empty for my week there.

I was thinking they must be a money-laundering operation, because they certainly weren't bringing in much revenue. Much prefer N. Garden or even Casa Valeria.Thanks for posting Savepros and Combo. Terra Linda invested a lot of money in that project. John and his brother (The owners) are from Puerto Rico and nice gentlemen. The bar upstairs in the restaurant cost 25k alone. I also think NG and Casa Valeria are better options. Sometimes I think the business owners in Sosua are getting desperate and not in it for the long term. TR was opened when Sosua was active, now things have changed.

What makes me shake my head more is why someone would open La Rocas now. With the big hotel on the hill now sitting idle, merchants have to wonder where the clientelle is coming from. That hotel fed a lot of restaurants and vendors on that end. With Lationos, the Canadian owner passed and his sons took over and moved Willie out. Well we see how their game plan has worked out. Rumba is the new post up spot. The Jersey boys have done well for themselves.

I also know of another spot where the owner has said he will probably close soon, but I hope he survives. Sosua has many hidden treasures that are quiet. I know of two places that are beautiful night clubs that no one has bothered to open. One is perfectly located. It is the old Club X. Located directly across the street from Classicos next door to Winners circle on the corner. They had lounge areas, pool tables, and three bars. It rivals Classicos but no one has opened it. I think only the sucker money is coming in now, but they soon realize that they made a mistake. Take away Classicos and Sosua as we know it dies, but Armondo has too much fight in him to let that happen.

[SavePros321]

The Gran Velero was closed the last few days, but they have been working on it. It looks to open tonight as the El Nuevo Mundo Del Toro. There is a 100 peso entrance fee but includes a drink.Thanks for reporting from on the ground. That will be interesting to see. As I said before, I rarely saw anyone hanging around Grand Valero, so I'm definitely interested in the turnout now that it has a new name and an entrance fee. Classicos used to only be 100 pesos to get in (I think it's 200 now) and you would also get a free drink with entrance. I wonder if the new Grand Valero is borrowing from this model. Please let us know what you find out.


It is amazing how quickly things can change in a day. There seems to be two to three times the number of people on the streets from yesterday.That's been the current trend lately. Everyone has started showing up on weekends for the most part. Sosua is actually quiet nice if you get there earlier during the week. I arrived on a Wednesday back in May and it was like I had the entire town to myself!

[GreenAndYellow]

GOGO, I love you're posts, please keep them coming, you're real and you know what you're talking about! I read alot of bulshit posts here of people trying to promote their business or people who just stay 2-3 days in dr and live it up (nothing wrong with that but I'm not that kind of person. I can feel you're posts are real and respect for that. Just keep them coming, I love to read it, wish I was so good with words that I could write all thiss, because all you been threw feels like the same here, ahhahaha.

[Llttf]

It is amazing how quickly things can change in a day. There seems to be two to three times the number of people on the streets from yesterday. I am at the New Garden and the "Reydey Motors Rentals" is closed. It looks like they used sledgehammers to get the stools out.

But do not worry. There are lots and lots of pretty girls out.They actually used hammer and chisels, saw them when I drove by. I am surprised this place as open as long as it was, the owner must have had deep pockets to keep subsidising it that long.

[Charles Pooter]

I am surprised this place as open as long as it was, the owner must have had deep pockets to keep subsidising it that long.Whenever you get these flash places opening up and staying in business for ages with nil or almost nil customers, apparently supported by the economic equivalent of skyhooks, the local wisdom always says "money laundering". No doubt that accounts for some cases but hard to think it accounts for all. I only know what I see in the movies, but I am sure there must be quicker and easier ways to launder money.

I sometimes go to a restaurant in Puerto Plata. They get by OK but there are a dozen restaurants nearby in which I rarely see more than the occasional one or two customers, night or day. You would think the last thing the area needs is another one, but here it comes, all chrome, neon signs and optimism. The staff in "my" restaurant are all muttering "money laundering".

[Manizales911]

They actually used hammer and chisels, saw them when I drove by. I am surprised this place as open as long as it was, the owner must have had deep pockets to keep subsidising it that long.I heard from a very knowledgeable source that it was owned by the Hells Angels and they were washing 10K USD a week through the place. I don't know if it's true but my source has lived on the north coast a very long time and knows everybody.

[Savethe7]

For 10k a week it may have been an individual HA but no way it was any serious effort by them, for small amounts like that it is a simple matter to clean it in a casino without the risk of getting cash into another country. I think it's far more likely the owner has a successful business elsewhere and was ok losing money as he could write it off against the profitable one to lower his taxes. To me the main reason to own a bar in a place like Sosua is as a tool get laid, want a job? Get your clothes off. Want to troll for gringos in my bar? Get your clothes off.

[Llttf]

Whenever you get these flash places opening up and staying in business for ages with nil or almost nil customers, apparently supported by the economic equivalent of skyhooks, the local wisdom always says "money laundering". No doubt that accounts for some cases but hard to think it accounts for all. I only know what I see in the movies, but I am sure there must be quicker and easier ways to launder money.

I sometimes go to a restaurant in Puerto Plata. They get by OK but there are a dozen restaurants nearby in which I rarely see more than the occasional one or two customers, night or day. You would think the last thing the area needs is another one, but here it comes, all chrome, neon signs and optimism. The staff in "my" restaurant are all muttering "money laundering".There was a thread a while ago on DR1 discussing how money laundering works especially regarding all the apartment towers that have been and are being built in Santo Domingo. I do not pretend to understand it fully but it seems they are willing to sacrifice 90 cents on the dollar in order to legitimise 10 cents. Can you explain how operating a high end bike and quad rental agency works to launder money? It just seems to me to be throwing your money down the drain.

[Llttf]

I heard from a very knowledgeable source that it was owned by the Hells Angels and they were washing 10K USD a week through the place. I don't know if it's true but my source has lived on the north coast a very long time and knows everybody.I have a friend who mentioned that too. May be something to it.

[TomJackin]

Gran Velejo formerly Latinos is Closed. No one knows why but is should reopen soon, maybe. The bar across from NewGardens with the bikes and fancy bar has closed. La Roca is supposed to reopen this week with new owners. Terra Linda has raised prices again. Europa is selling all its units for 25k. Rockys has a new cook and the ribs arent as good as before. Willie of Latinos fame has a new place next to Rumbas. The problem seems to be that Sosua has become a weekend town and during the week merchants are hurting.Latinos is closed? Was it because of all the debauchery from my last VIP room party?

La Roca wasn't that good to begin with, can't see any good with reopening the place.

sl@t And belong in a slutty hotel, thus, NG.

The bar across from the NG was always dead; go figure that it is closed.

Thanks for the update!

This auto correct is pissing me the fuck off!

[Mr Gogo]

Latinos is closed? Was it because of all the debauchery from my last VIP room party?

La Roca wasn't that good to begin with, can't see any good with reopening the place.

sl@t And belong in a slutty hotel, thus, NG.

The bar across from the NG was always dead; go figure that it is closed.

Thanks for the update!

This auto correct is pissing me the fuck off!LMAO, man you are the funniest dude on ISG along with BO. Keep being real bro, see you soon.

[Ath Trainer]

If you walk out of New Garden to the right, toward the beach, you end up at a private beach. On the right, they are building something. I was amazed to watch the workers digging, jack hammering in this large plot of earth / rock in the middle of the day in the hot sun. With their minimal tools, this will take an eternity to get done, and a whole lot of very hard labor. With Sosua struggling right now, wonder if it will ever get finished.

[OldKool]

I have sweet young chica in San francisco de merconis. The sex with her was very good. She is a non pro and has a regular job. I use skype to stay in touch and I noticed she was a little distant lately. So I made a late nite call. When she hung up the phone stayed on and I heard Padro talking for about 3 minutes then the phone went off. I called her back to get the obligatory en casa solo. I explained what happen and she did not even try to deny. She was in shock as I compared her to female dogs I know. So fellows just a word to the wise do not believe what they tell you and only half of what you see.

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[Mr Gogo]

Friday night in Sosua a monger (not a vet, but not a newbie either) agreed a price of 2500 pesos for TLN. Took the chica back to Terra Linda for the night. After one pop she pulled the old "leave early" stunt so he would only pay her 1500 pesos for ST. She refused to leave and he threw her out. There was no physical fight as such and she left quietly enough though obviously in a foul mood.

She came back later (early next morning?) with bruises, a cop and a lawyer, and the guy was arrested and taken to a Puerto Plata cell for the night. The security guard who had let her out said she was in good state when she left so presumably the bruises were inflicted by herself or her chulo.

Next day some of the friends he had made on his trips here, plus some very experienced ex-pats, arrived with a lawyer. Eventually they all chipped in to make up US$3500 to get him released and (I think) the charges dropped. The monger left for the US (either because it was his last day anyway or because he was understandably so pissed off with the DR, or because he was now broke, or because it was a condition of his release, I don't know which). I guess he won't be back in a hurry.

The above are the brief facts, though obviously there was a lot more hassle, unpleasantness and complications involved over a 36-hour (?) period.

Some random comments:

136, 500 pesos expended to save 1000, plus a lot of other guys precious holiday time and incidental expenses. Many guys advocate standing up to the chicas and cops and not yielding any ground. This might work 19 times out of 20 but when you look at the cost savings it is not a good bet.

I have no idea whether the guy had been drinking or was stone-cold sober but alcohol is never helpful in such situations.

The management of Terra Linda were totally unhelpful (and wouldn't let the security guard speak on the monger's behalf) but the manager of Rocky's (where the guy was not staying and who did not know the guy from Adam) spent a lot of his time helping. It might have been him who arranged a defence lawyer but don't quote me on that. I can understand Terra Linda's position. They have to carry on their business after the monger is back in the States and they don't want to make enemies of a cop and a lawyer by denying them a payday, but I suspect he would have got more backing from the New Garden and obviously at Rocky's because their whole businesses are reliant on recommendations from mongers whereas TL are trying to position themselves as a family hotel.

This sort of thing could happen in any part of the DR (or in most other corrupt countries as well) but it is far more likely to happen with hard-core putas from the "strip" in Sosua. (I imagine I will get no arguments from Jaosousa on that point). That is one reason why, after my first 2 or 3 trips, I have confined my mongering to Pto Pta, other small towns and the campo.

Kudos to all the guys who chipped in, not with "wise after the event" comments but with their time and a lot of hard cash. Most of them hardly knew the guy but they all realised it could happen to any of us. Had he been a lone wolf he could really have been screwed a lot worse.

[Mr Gogo]

Shame on you Terra Linda. If everything posted below is correct, you threw YOUR guest under the bus. The girl had to get her cedula when she exited and bruises would have been evident. There are cameras everywhere. There is a security posted there that had to see her exit. I would like to give Terra Linda the opportunity to respond here.

[Mr Enternational]

That is some fuck shit. I guess the cameras and security are for the hotel's protection and not the customers'. Even if he did give her the agreed upon LT amount for the ST there was nothing stopping her from doing the same thing. People talk about AWs, but some of these foreign hookers have the game messed up as well. I guess there are bad apples in every basket.

[OldKool]

I have a SW friend I meant at pacos in SD. She friended me on facebook. I had the booty one time and saw her on other trips but did not pursue. She wants me hang out with her when I come back. This is the part I like." popi I want it in my culo." Is this very popular in the DR. I have another DR chica who loves it in the ass. She was my first. What do my brothers think do they like it or do they think we want it? Honestly I do not know. '

[Cagep1967]

I have a SW friend I meant at pacos in SD. She friended me on facebook. I had the booty one time and saw her on other trips but did not pursue. She wants me hang out with her when I come back. This is the part I like." popi I want it in my culo." Is this very popular in the DR. I have another DR chica who loves it in the ass. She was my first. What do my brothers think do they like it or do they think we want it? Honestly I do not know. 'My live in gives me the ass regularly. I call it the 3 A's arriba (mouth) alante (pussy) atras (ass). She climaxes in a few seconds when I'm in the back door. Also, when she has her period I get it daily. She feels obliged to keep me sexually satisfied by making me come 2. 3 times a day. The first time is always Alante, because if I finish in her mouth it's too much leche for her and sometimes she gags (she doesn't really like to do that). The second time of day is either the mouth or the ass because it's less leche but more work as I've already finished once.

As for liking it, I know she does like it and climaxes, but I don't care too much as it is more that I like it and want it regularly and she know there are girls that will willingly give it to me for a little attention and some pesos. (more about the pesos than the attention)

[OldKool]

A man who has no leche will can not fuck around. My girl wears me out when I am with her. Morning noon and night she is always willing which I love. Her sounds when fuck are sweet to. I have a young chica who was fun but she is angry because I do not want to marry her. I like her as a person she made me love eating pussy. Looks like the clock has run out on her.


My live in gives me the ass regularly. I call it the 3 A's arriba (mouth) alante (pussy) atras (ass). She climaxes in a few seconds when I'm in the back door. Also, when she has her period I get it daily. She feels obliged to keep me sexually satisfied by making me come 2. 3 times a day. The first time is always Alante, because if I finish in her mouth it's too much leche for her and sometimes she gags (she doesn't really like to do that). The second time of day is either the mouth or the ass because it's less leche but more work as I've already finished once.

As for liking it, I know she does like it and climaxes, but I don't care too much as it is more that I like it and want it regularly and she know there are girls that will willingly give it to me for a little attention and some pesos. (more about the pesos than the attention)

[Cagep1967]

A man who has no leche will can not fuck around. My girl wears me out when I am with her. Morning noon and night she is always willing which I love. Her sounds when fuck are sweet to. I have a young chica who was fun but she is angry because I do not want to marry her. I like her as a person she made me love eating pussy. Looks like the clock has run out on her.She once saw a foto on my computer of another chica, actually before I was with her. She was crying, she wouldn't take my explanation, yada yada. The next day and for the whole week afterwards 5 times a day, I thought I was going to die. They refer to it as "saca la leche" (I think). This way you've got nothing to give to any other girl. It worked. Cut down my fooling around by about 85. But once a dog always a dog.

[OldKool]

I feel your pain. I have a girl who is so proud she would kill the golden goose. I fuck up I know she is gone. Poor and very proud. I have to admire he dignity.

QUOTE=Cagep1967; 1304029]She once saw a foto on my computer of another chica, actually before I was with her. She was crying, she wouldn't take my explanation, yada yada. The next day and for the whole week afterwards 5 times a day, I thought I was going to die. They refer to it as "saca la leche" (I think). This way you've got nothing to give to any other girl. It worked. Cut down my fooling around by about 85. But once a dog always a dog.[/QUOTE]

[SavePros321]

Searching for some good reggaeton music/artist and would appreciate it if fellow mongers could chime in with some of the songs they have and possibly a link to the song on YouTube. Not interested in anything by Pitt Bull (guy makes my ears bleed). More interested in artist like Wisin & Yandel and Daddy Yankee.

Seriously, the only "Latin" songs I have in my iTunes player are:

Sexy Movimiento - Wisin & Yandel (awesome song) : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfCZGk8eCUk

Estoy Enamorado - (same artists)

Pose - Daddy Yankee: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtNL3LyiZWY

And that's it, LOL. Anytime I've gone down to the DR I've always had Hip Hop, Rap (Old Headz know that there is a difference between the two) and R&B playing; but now I want to stock up on music that most chicas will be familiar with.

Mostly interested in the "slower" type of reggaeton music similar to the song "Yo Voy" by Daddy Yankee; Zion Y Lennox:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZrLbb0EkOY

Very nice song, but apparently it is not for sale in mp3 format.

Appreciate any help I can get. Reply to this post with your suggestions. Thank!

[Mr Gogo]

A secret regarding Latin music is to not be hardcore when dropping names of musicians. DR girls love romantic music. My favorite name to drop on the Dominican ladies is Jeffery, a Dominica Ballard guy. Also throw adventura into the conversation. They give me funny looks when I say those two names. Don Omar is cool also. Please do not mention Ricky Martin because the girl might get up and leave. Also that song where the guy counts down his love is a winner (anyone no his name can help here).

[Mr Gogo]

This is the song I was talking about that the Latinas love.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc13NAc7dvM

[Jaosousa]

Very nice song, but apparently it is not for sale in mp3 format.

Appreciate any help I can get. Reply to this post with your suggestions. Thank!Realplayer is a free program that includes free video downloader software http://www.real.com/realplayer/download-video And after you download the video (from youtube or elsewhere) you can convert the video http://www.real.com/realplayer/convert-video Using the free realplayer video converter software (mp3 is an option) , then burn the mp3 onto a CD or add to a cell phone or portable music player.

Abusadora http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUXH2DqVOC8 By Wisin & Yandel (Puerto Rican).

Salsa, Extrañandote http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obSH6xjgrCY By Michel El Buenon (Dominican).

Classic Salsa, lloraras http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DUeurqYSYw By Oscar De Leon (Venezuelan).

Rebelion http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNcaw0Ye69g Joe Arroyo (Colombian).

El Preso http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PPNtYFyHZg Fruko why sus Tesos (Colombian).

[Mr Gogo]

The history of the Dominican Repulic and Haiti, the good and the bad. Must see for everyone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I895XFAbUPo

[SavePros321]

The history of the Dominican Repulic and Haiti, the good and the bad. Must see for everyone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I895XFAbUPoToo add to what Gogo posted, here is the link to the entire series, including Cuba, Brazil, Peru, and Mexico:

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/black-in-latin-america/

It's still free to watch online, but I think the may have added a commercial or two here and there.

[Traveler04]

Nice video thank you for posting the link. I now have a much better understanding of both the history and culture for these two countries.

[SavePros321]

Don Omar is cool also. Please do not mention Ricky Martin because the girl might get up and leave. Also that song where the guy counts down his love is a winner (anyone no his name can help here).Thanks for the tips. I've checked out some of Don Omar's music and it is closer to what I am looking for. Tempoecorto just gave me the link to a song called "Dile": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFvedbMGbJo

It's pretty good. The song you linked to by Gilberto Santa Rosa is good too.

[Jaosousa]

The history of the Dominican Repulic and Haiti, the good and the bad. Must see for everyone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I895XFAbUPoGates focuses on the amount of "African" blood a person has. Seems to me All humans are descended from ape like creatures from Africa. Economically Dom Rep, seems to me, is doing better than both Haiti and Cuba.

[Revere]

By way of background, La Victoria Prison is the largest prison in The Dominican Republic with over 4, 000 inmates. This is where the real bad boys live. I heard that they running close to 5, 000 inmates. La Victoria is located about an hour outside Santo Domingo I cannot tell you the town but it seem to have farms around it.

Here goes, the first thing I would say with all seriousness I would not wish my worse enemy to have to go here. It starts out that you form two lines. One for men and another for women. The man line is very short as mostly mothers, girlfriends and family are visiting the inmates. You can bring all kinds of stuff in from food to clothing. Food is very important I will get to that later. We brought in food and a fan for my novia's brothers cell. The search process is pretty standard I heard horror stories that I would have to pull my pants down, but none of that happen. They did pat me down. I was with my novia's step father and was fine until he kept saying I was American which then made every officer ask me for money. I went through three light searches and just when I was about to enter the yard they told me my sneakers might cause problems. So you guess it I had to walk all the back to the car and rent flip flops for 50 pesos.

Now, I was not scared until I finally made it through all the searches and I could see inmates just waiting to talk to you when you went through your final search. Just as an aside, the place is old decrepit and just nasty. Nothing new in this place. Before I hit the yard, I passed by the administrative offices and I saw a European man standing by himself around 50 and he just looked llike all hope was lost. I looked him in the eye and he looked at me and I truly felt sad for him. I just could not imagine what he was going through. This is no place for a foreigner.

The yard. Nothing can prepare you from walking past the last guard down a narrow walkway into a sea of roughly 2, 000 inmates maybe more just standing there looking at you with some running up to you grabbing you asking for money. It will go down as one of the most shocking experiences in my life. Because I had to go back to the car my novia, her aunt and mother were already ushered into my novia's cell block. So, here we are in a yard with over 2000 inmates no guards standing looking stupid. I tried not to look scared, but I was scared I cannot lie. Finally, an inmate asked who are you here to see and we gave the name. He said follow him through just a swarm of inmates. I cannot describe to you to be around real bad inmates with no guard in sight. It is just something I will never forget. Do not worry it gets better. So, I am following this inmate and as we enter the cell block it is pitch black no fricken lights he grabbed my hand and pulled me along. At this point, I do not know if he is leading to my novia's cell or death. I am serious inmates walking past you in total darkness. How you can survive in that environment is beyond me.

As tony Soprano says to her sister after she is running back to Seattle after killing her husband, all in all it was a good visit. All seriousness, try never go to crazy and get yourself into trouble as they will send you hear to teach you a lesson. Back to the Eoropean, he was given 10 years for having sex with a 15 year girl. When I left to walk back out he was in the exact same spot that I first saw him three hours ago he had not moved. By himself looking hopeless. They got him good and in there no one will save you. You are on your own.

I forgot to finish, but there is no cafeteria that I saw. A church group was serving food to the poor inmates and the poor inmate were desperate for food. The guards beat them to keep them in check with metal rods. Just horrible. If you do not have money or means in there, you are not going to make it. I will try to put some more thought later. Those are my initial thoughts. Be safe.

[Llttf]

By way of background, La Victoria Prison is the largest prison in The Dominican Republic with over 4, 000 inmates. This is where the real bad boys live. I heard that they running close to 5, 000 inmates. La Victoria is located about an hour outside Santo Domingo I cannot tell you the town but it seem to have farms around it.

Here goes, the first thing I would say with all seriousness I would not wish my worse enemy to have to go here. It starts out that you form two lines. One for men and another for women. The man line is very short as mostly mothers, girlfriends and family are visiting the inmates. You can bring all kinds of stuff in from food to clothing. Food is very important I will get to that later. We brought in food and a fan for my novia's brothers cell. The search process is pretty standard I heard horror stories that I would have to pull my pants down, but none of that happen. They did pat me down. I was with my novia's step father and was fine until he kept saying I was American which then made every officer ask me for money. I went through three light searches and just when I was about to enter the yard they told me my sneakers might cause problems. So you guess it I had to walk all the back to the car and rent flip flops for 50 pesos.

Now, I was not scared until I finally made it through all the searches and I could see inmates just waiting to talk to you when you went through your final search. Just as an aside, the place is old decrepit and just nasty. Nothing new in this place. Before I hit the yard, I passed by the administrative offices and I saw a European man standing by himself around 50 and he just looked llike all hope was lost. I looked him in the eye and he looked at me and I truly felt sad for him. I just could not imagine what he was going through. This is no place for a foreigner.

The yard. Nothing can prepare you from walking past the last guard down a narrow walkway into a sea of roughly 2, 000 inmates maybe more just standing there looking at you with some running up to you grabbing you asking for money. It will go down as one of the most shocking experiences in my life. Because I had to go back to the car my novia, her aunt and mother were already ushered into my novia's cell block. So, here we are in a yard with over 2000 inmates no guards standing looking stupid. I tried not to look scared, but I was scared I cannot lie. Finally, an inmate asked who are you here to see and we gave the name. He said follow him through just a swarm of inmates. I cannot describe to you to be around real bad inmates with no guard in sight. It is just something I will never forget. Do not worry it gets better. So, I am following this inmate and as we enter the cell block it is pitch black no fricken lights he grabbed my hand and pulled me along. At this point, I do not know if he is leading to my novia's cell or death. I am serious inmates walking past you in total darkness. How you can survive in that environment is beyond me. We finally get to my novia's cell. I have to say in his one room cell he has cable tv and a fan, but walks in an out of a pitch black hallway.

At this point, I just want to get out of there I have seen enough. The conditions in there are just horrible. I believe there is a murder a week I can see why. Anyway, after some small talk we are back up walking to another yard. Again, we first have to go through the main yard where thousands of inmates hang out. It has now been an hour and I have not seen one guard. They only come I to the cell blocks when there is a problem. I am sure to confirm a dead body I am serious.

Anyway, we go through the main yard to another yard that has a baseball field. Everyone stays close to wall to watch out for stabbings. No guards in this yard, but you see them walk through. Other things are going on in the yard, but I do not want to talk about that due to safety concerns.

As tony Soprano says to her sister after she is running back to Seattle after killing her husband, all in all it was a good visit. All seriousness, try never go to crazy and get yourself into trouble as they will send you hear to teach you a lesson. Back to the Eoropean, he was given 10 years for having sex with a 15 year girl. When I left to walk back out he was in the exact same spot that I first saw him three house ago he had not moved. By himself looking hopeless. They got him good and in there no one will save you. You are on your own.

I forgot to finish, but there is no cafeteria that I saw. A church group was serving food to the poor inmates and the poor inmate were desperate for food. The guards beat them to keep them in check with metal rods. Just horrible. If you do not have money or means in there, you are not going to make it. I will try to put some more thought later. Those are my initial thoughts. Be safe.Very interesting. This pretty well sums up what I saw a few years ago when I used to work with a humanitarian group and we spent an afternoon running a clinic in the Nagua jail. Obviously much smaller but the conditions you describe are similar to what I saw. The only guards we saw were on the roof with rifles, I just hoped that they were good shots if trouble broke out. This was the only time I want to see the inside of a dominican jail.

[Manizales911]

Here goes, the first thing I would say with all seriousness I would not wish my worse enemy to have to go here.

Back to the Eoropean, he was given 10 years for having sex with a 15 year girl. When I left to walk back out he was in the exact same spot that I first saw him three house ago he had not moved. By himself looking hopeless. They got him good and in there no one will save you. You are on your own.Revere, thank you for reporting your experience. I would hope this would end any debate of whether the prisons in the USA are worse or better than they are in the D. R. And certainly this report should make every monger anywhere take pause before they fail to check a girls I. D. Check all girls every time no matter what, period.

[SavePros321]

by way of background, la victoria prison is the largest prison in the dominican republic with over 4, 000 inmates. this is where the real bad boys live. i heard that they running close to 5, 000 inmates. la victoria is located about an hour outside santo domingo i cannot tell you the town but it seem to have farms around it.

here goes, the first thing i would say with all seriousness i would not wish my worse enemy to have to go here. it starts out that you form two lines. one for men and another for women. the man line is very short as mostly mothers, girlfriends and family are visiting the inmates. you can bring all kinds of stuff in from food to clothing. food is very important i will get to that later. we brought in food and a fan for my novia's brothers cell. the search process is pretty standard i heard horror stories that i would have to pull my pants down, but none of that happen. they did pat me down. i was with my novia's step father and was fine until he kept saying i was american which then made every officer ask me for money. i went through three light searches and just when i was about to enter the yard they told me my sneakers might cause problems. so you guess it i had to walk all the back to the car and rent flip flops for 50 pesos.

now, i was not scared until i finally made it through all the searches and i could see inmates just waiting to talk to you when you went through your final search. just as an aside, the place is old decrepit and just nasty. nothing new in this place. before i hit the yard, i passed by the administrative offices and i saw a european man standing by himself around 50 and he just looked llike all hope was lost. i looked him in the eye and he looked at me and i truly felt sad for him. i just could not imagine what he was going through. this is no place for a foreigner.

the yard. nothing can prepare you from walking past the last guard down a narrow walkway into a sea of roughly 2, 000 inmates maybe more just standing there looking at you with some running up to you grabbing you asking for money. it will go down as one of the most shocking experiences in my life. because i had to go back to the car my novia, her aunt and mother were already ushered into my novia's cell block. so, here we are in a yard with over 2000 inmates no guards standing looking stupid. i tried not to look scared, but i was scared i cannot lie. finally, an inmate asked who are you here to see and we gave the name. he said follow him through just a swarm of inmates. i cannot describe to you to be around real bad inmates with no guard in sight. it is just something i will never forget. do not worry it gets better. so, i am following this inmate and as we enter the cell block it is pitch black no fricken lights he grabbed my hand and pulled me along. at this point, i do not know if he is leading to my novia's cell or death. i am serious inmates walking past you in total darkness. how you can survive in that environment is beyond me. we finally get to my novia's cell. i have to say in his one room cell he has cable tv and a fan, but walks in an out of a pitch black hallway.

at this point, i just want to get out of there i have seen enough. the conditions in there are just horrible. i believe there is a murder a week i can see why. anyway, after some small talk we are back up walking to another yard. again, we first have to go through the main yard where thousands of inmates hang out. it has now been an hour and i have not seen one guard. they only come i to the cell blocks when there is a problem. i am sure to confirm a dead body i am serious.

anyway, we go through the main yard to another yard that has a baseball field. everyone stays close to wall to watch out for stabbings. no guards in this yard, but you see them walk through. other things are going on in the yard, but i do not want to talk about that due to safety concerns.

as tony soprano says to her sister after she is running back to seattle after killing her husband, all in all it was a good visit. all seriousness, try never go to crazy and get yourself into trouble as they will send you hear to teach you a lesson. back to the eoropean, he was given 10 years for having sex with a 15 year girl. when i left to walk back out he was in the exact same spot that i first saw him three house ago he had not moved. by himself looking hopeless. they got him good and in there no one will save you. you are on your own.

i forgot to finish, but there is no cafeteria that i saw. a church group was serving food to the poor inmates and the poor inmate were desperate for food. the guards beat them to keep them in check with metal rods. just horrible. if you do not have money or means in there, you are not going to make it. i will try to put some more thought later. those are my initial thoughts. be safe.very well written account of what you experienced. it was like i was also there, which made me realize i never want to be there. i'm not even trying to end up in prison in the us, let alone in the dominican republic. you should thank god that that inmate actually took you to your novia's brothers cell and not to some obscure place in the prison to [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) or shank you (or both). thanks for sharing.

[Mr Enternational]

All seriousness, try never go to crazy and get yourself into trouble as they will send you hear to teach you a lesson. Back to the Eoropean, he was given 10 years for having sex with a 15 year girl. When I left to walk back out he was in the exact same spot that I first saw him three hours ago he had not moved. By himself looking hopeless. They got him good and in there no one will save you. You are on your own.They got your ass scared straight huh? When you get a chance check out this video of the prison in Bogota. It sounds pretty similar to Revere's observation. The video is quite long.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YgixIJnyh4

[Frannie]

Here goes, the first thing I would say with all seriousness I would not wish my worse enemy to have to go here. Before I hit the yard, I passed by the administrative offices and I saw a European man standing by himself around 50 and he just looked llike all hope was lost. I looked him in the eye and he looked at me and I truly felt sad for him. I just could not imagine what he was going through. This is no place for a foreigner.

As Tony Soprano says to her sister after she is running back to Seattle after killing her husband, all in all it was a good visit. All seriousness, try never go to crazy and get yourself into trouble as they will send you hear to teach you a lesson. Back to the Eoropean, he was given 10 years for having sex with a 15 year girl. When I left to walk back out he was in the exact same spot that I first saw him three hours ago he had not moved. By himself looking hopeless. They got him good and in there no one will save you. You are on your own.

I forgot to finish, but there is no cafeteria that I saw. A church group was serving food to the poor inmates and the poor inmate were desperate for food. The guards beat them to keep them in check with metal rods. Just horrible. If you do not have money or means in there, you are not going to make it. I will try to put some more thought later. Those are my initial thoughts. Be safe.Sounds pretty much like prison in the US, except that at the prison where I worked in the US inmates could not have someone bring them a electric fan to put in their cell.

Sounds like the poor European guy must not have had any money to get things fixed. How did you find out about his offenses?

A Dominican guy I knew had to pay $60, 000 pesos compensation to the girl's family for an offense with a girl a couple of years younger.

[Revere]

Sounds pretty much like prison in the US, except that at the prison where I worked in the US inmates could not have someone bring them a electric fan to put in their cell.

Sounds like the poor European guy must not have had any money to get things fixed. How did you find out about his offenses?

A Dominican guy I knew had to pay $60, 000 pesos compensation to the girl's family for an offense with a girl a couple of years younger.I asked one of the inmates providing us protection. He was the only European I saw on that side of the prison so I knew he would know who he was. I think there is another section for those who have money, but I did not see it. This guy as you said did not have money to buy his way out of that problem.

[Revere]

very well written account of what you experienced. it was like i was also there, which made me realize i never want to be there. i'm not even trying to end up in prison in the us, let alone in the dominican republic. you should thank god that that inmate actually took you to your novia's brothers cell and not to some obscure place in the prison to [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) or shank you (or both). thanks for sharing.thanks man. all i kept thinking last night was what happens when it gets dark in there. i forgot to mention i saw a ton of inmates who been sliced with a knife across the face. so i assume a lot of knife fights in there.

[Manizales911]

Sounds pretty much like prison in the USIn all due respect Frannie that's just not true. I've never worked in a prison but have had the unfortunate experience of visiting several and never saw conditions as reported in Revere's report. For example, any prison in the USA provides food for all inmates regardless of their stature or wealth.

[Frannie]

In all due respect Frannie that's just not true. I've never worked in a prison but have had the unfortunate experience of visiting several and never saw conditions as reported in Revere's report. For example, any prison in the USA provides food for all inmates regardless of their stature or wealth.Yes, prisons in US do provide food for all, however Revere's report didn't really say that no food at all was provided, though I am sure that whatever the missionaries were distributing was more tasty. The food in US prisons is pretty unpleasant, but people have different standards and tastes. I simply cannot eat the favorite Dominican stew made from pigs' feet, as to me it is just globs of fat, but lots of people do like it.

More to the point is that in the DR prisoners can have things like personal cable TV, electric fans, and food brought in for them, plus other things which is are not allowed in the US.

I am sure that living (or trying to stay alive) in a DR prison is a hellish experience, but living in a US prison may be even more soul destroying.

[Hillbilly69]

Yes, prisons in US do provide food for all, however Revere's report didn't really say that no food at all was provided, though I am sure that whatever the missionaries were distributing was more tasty. The food in US prisons is pretty unpleasant, but people have different standards and tastes. I simply cannot eat the favorite Dominican stew made from pigs' feet, as to me it is just globs of fat, but lots of people do like it.

More to the point is that in the DR prisoners can have things like personal cable TV, electric fans, and food brought in for them, plus other things which is are not allowed in the US.

I am sure that living (or trying to stay alive) in a DR prison is a hellish experience, but living in a US prison may be even more soul destroying.Frannie you live in a fucking wet dream. Jackson should have sent your ass to the kiddee board a while ago. Thet don't even have toilets, running water or fucking food served regularly. Keep your bullshit preaching confined to your bathroom!

[Frannie]

Frannie you live in a fucking wet dream. Jackson should have sent your ass to the kiddee board a while ago. Thet don't even have toilets, running water or fucking food served regularly. Keep your bullshit preaching confined to your bathroom!Where does it say anything about toilets and running water in Revere's report? What you say may be correct, but I don't see it in his report. Which prisons in the US have you been in?

[Hillbilly69]

Where does it say anything about toilets and running water in Revere's report? What you say may be correct, but I don't see it in his report.Frannie you have already made a bigger idiot out of yourself by commenting about DR prisons to which you have no knowledge of. You told Revere before he went it would be like visiting Disneyland. Now after he scaped out his pants you talk about cable. Just shut the FUCK UP if you don't know what you are talking about. The conditions of those places couldn't be any worse and the people live. I actually was in one whereas you only got 2nd hand information from one of your boyfriends.

[Rick Rock]

Economically Dom Rep, seems to me, is doing better than both Haiti and Cuba.Depends on your perspective. I'd rather be poor in Cuba, since at least I know that I'd have a home and some food.

[Jaosousa]

Depends on your perspective. I'd rather be poor in Cuba, since at least I know that I'd have a home and some food.I'll ask again, could you refer me to a trip report you have posted about Dom Rep. Starving homeless people I have Never seen in Dom Rep. I used to see homeless children on the streets of Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, when I traveled there many years ago. Do you believe the embargo the United States has against Cuba is not hurting the Cuban economy? (tourist dollars, that could be going to Cuba, some is going to Dom Rep)

[Frannie]

Frannie you have already made a bigger idiot out of yourself by commenting about DR prisons to which you have no knowledge of. You told Revere before he went it would be like visiting Disneyland. Now after he scaped out his pants you talk about cable. Just shut the FUCK UP if you don't know what you are talking about. The conditions of those places couldn't be any worse and the people live. I actually was in one whereas you only got 2nd hand information from one of your boyfriends.Sillybilly, I don't think I mentioned Disneyland. I said I thought it could be intimidating, but he would be OK, and that is how it turned out.

My understanding-correct me if I am wrong-is that you spent a few hours in a holding cell at the Puerto Plata jail after being involved in an automobile accident. I am sure it was a quite horrible experience, but it doesn't make you an international authority on penal reform.

I have worked in 2 high security prisons in the US, and also in a Juvenile Justice prison for teenage boys and girls, and also in a Sex Offenders treatment facility which is about the same as a prison and where all the inmates are former prisoners. As a result I have probably spent about 6000 to 8000 hours in these place, but not as an inmate. Nevertheless over time one gets to see a lot of prison life including things like stabbings, suicides, HIV +ve people biting their tongues and spitting blood in the eyes of others, etc. At close up.

The "boyfriend" (is that how you hillbillies talk about each other?) who told me his time served in prison in the DR was better than at Rijker's Island in the US was just a guy I was talking to at the pool one day in Puerto Plata. I don't have all the details, or even know which prison he was at in the DR. I think he has family in New York and most likely they were able to send him money that could have made his stay more bearable.

If you read Revere's report carefully, you will say that it was HE who mentioned that the novia's brother had cable TV. From my experience inmates in the US do not have individual cable TV-at least not in Florida.

I am not in any way suggesting that I think prison conditions are enjoyable in the DR. I am sure they are not.

[Carrib]

Thank you for the detailed account of your recent visit to a Dominican prison. You must really love your novia and I hope she appreciates all that you do. The recent horror stories in Sosua reaaffirms my commitment to deal mostly with non pros, they do come with their own sets of challenges but I would much rather be a visitor than a resident at one of these prisons.

A few last points. A casa chica has to answer to the casa and a non pro or even semi pro who respects herself would avoid any situation where she could be labeled as a puta. Less chance of a "he didn't pay me" scam.

[OldKool]

I have a hard time getting into banging casa chicas. Wam bam thank you mam take your condom off. I have issues having long distance relationships with third world girls as well. I think the hub bub of scams is more paronia. Most of the girls are not that smart or devious IMHO. I have invested time in developing my mongering skills. I have chicas that I talk to on line who I met Dominican Cupid. The relationships have been excellent. The sex is awesome due to our comfort level. I enjoy a little sport fucking like all you guys. So when I meet one who is kind of special I get her name and number to make her keeper. I taught my self spanish which is a huge help with my hobby. Guys banging these beautiful women is a huge treat so enjoy it. In most cases we are helping these ladies support them selves. It is a simbiotic relationship. Both parties are getting what they want and if done properly both enjoying them selves. Yesterday two of my girls flashed their bodies on the internet for me. It made my day. I have a pro who wants to me my novia. We are facebook friends. I like the ladies and I think they can tell and often recipricate.


Thank you for the detailed account of your recent visit to a Dominican prison. You must really love your novia and I hope she appreciates all that you do. The recent horror stories in Sosua reaaffirms my commitment to deal mostly with non pros, they do come with their own sets of challenges but I would much rather be a visitor than a resident at one of these prisons.

A few last points. A casa chica has to answer to the casa and a non pro or even semi pro who respects herself would avoid any situation where she could be labeled as a puta. Less chance of a "he didn't pay me" scam.

[Mr Gogo]

The bar "Grand Velejo" formerly "Latinos" has changed owners again. The new Canadian owners have named the new bar" El Toro". They are currently getting the club set for a September opening. Entrance fee will be 100pesos. Drink prices will be the same as other bars. Why a bar with a great location, nice disco, and lovely bar can't succeed confuses me. So lets roll the dice again, hopefully they will get it together. I guess they really miss Willie, who has a bar across the street.

[Carrib]

That's a bit presumptive don't you think? You should never assume what a person will or won't do in a challenging situatuon. You never know if there's a crooked cop in the background or a domincan chulo forcing her to run scams on gringos. I also get a kick out of mongers who proclaim that these women are idiots because they aren't interested in certain subjects. Perhaps she need to buy leche? Pay her rent, support an abusive chulo or extended family? So discussing history or getting into a deep philosophical discussion is the furthest thing from her mind ?

Treat everyone fairly and with respect to limit your chances of getting scammed and always keep your guard up.

As far as Sosua getting shut down.

Sousa will be there until someone with deeps pockets decide to redevelop the place. My hunch is DR as a mongering destination will remain as is until there is real socioeconomic opportunities for tbe lower classes. In the grand scheme our dollars account for a tiny fraction of their economy.

[Jaosousa]

I have a hard time getting into banging casa chicas. Wam bam thank you mam take your condom off. I have issues having long distance relationships with third world girls as well. I think the hub bub of scams is more paronia. Most of the girls are not that smart or devious IMHO. I have invested time in developing my mongering skills. I have chicas that I talk to on line who I met Dominican Cupid. The relationships have been excellent. The sex is awesome due to our comfort level. I enjoy a little sport fucking like all you guys. So when I meet one who is kind of special I get her name and number to make her keeper. I taught my self spanish which is a huge help with my hobby. Guys banging these beautiful women is a huge treat so enjoy it. In most cases we are helping these ladies support them selves. It is a simbiotic relationship. Both parties are getting what they want and if done properly both enjoying them selves. Yesterday two of my girls flashed their bodies on the internet for me. It made my day. I have a pro who wants to me my novia. We are facebook friends. I like the ladies and I think they can tell and often recipricate.Sosua is like one big open air casa. Negotiate ST in Sosua and it is one pop and the chica is gone. If you want 24 hours with a casa chica, that can be negotiated. Some fine chicas like the safety and security of a casa. If you don't visit casas, you will not see all the best chicas in the DR. Casa chicas generally will not try to rob, steal or scam (because you know where you can find them). Freelancers in Sosua have robbed and have caused problems for mongers, sometimes costing mongers thousands of dollars.

GFE with non-pro chicas can be great. Chances of finding a non-pro in Sosua for GFE, are not going to be good. Sosua is great for some people (some foreigners, some locals and some Haitians). You have said Sosua blows the doors off Santo Domingo and you said that Sosua is the mecca for pussy in DR. Tell me, how many rich and famous Dominicans have you seen mongering in Sosua? (I would assume rich and famous Dominicans know their country and would know where the best women are).

[Frannie]

I also get a kick out of mongers who proclaim that these women are idiots because they aren't interested in certain subjects. Perhaps she need to buy leche? Pay her rent, support an abusive chulo or extended family? So discussing history or getting into a deep philosophical discussion is the furthest thing from her mind ?I haven't seen much of that. Obviously there is quite a bit of variation between chicas in terms of general intelligence, but this tends to display itself more in ability to understand human relations and behavior than displaying knowledge of things outside her immediate sphere. For example some chicas can immediately tell if a person speaking Spanish is Italian or German from their accent, and other chicas can't, even though it is usually rather obvious.

It doesn't take a lot of intelligence to get involved in scams or criminal activity. I have known many criminals and often they come across as street wise and good at manipulating other people, so superficially intelligent. However they are not usually very good at the big picture and their opinions are usually very predictable.

Some chicas have opinions on US politics. One I once knew disliked a loud-mouthed monger and suggested (in Spanish) that if he could be dropped over Iraq, that would solve everything.

More typical was the one who told me: "I like Obama because he is brown like me!"

[OldKool]

The girls I have delt with were mostly working to support their families. Almost all had children by dead beat fathers. I read about these girls with drug habits but personally of the 20 or 30 chica I have been with I can not say I had any indication any were on drugs. I have only had two who would smoke a joint. Maybe what attracts me may be skewing my sample. As for smarts the girls know what is important to them. How to live off their meager incomes. Something we would be challenged to do.


I haven't seen much of that. Obviously there is quite a bit of variation between chicas in terms of general intelligence, but this tends to display itself more in ability to understand human relations and behavior than displaying knowledge of things outside her immediate sphere. For example some chicas can immediately tell if a person speaking Spanish is Italian or German from their accent, and other chicas can't, even though it is usually rather obvious.

It doesn't take a lot of intelligence to get involved in scams or criminal activity. I have known many criminals and often they come across as street wise and good at manipulating other people, so superficially intelligent. However they are not usually very good at the big picture and their opinions are usually very predictable.

Some chicas have opinions on US politics. One I once knew disliked a loud-mouthed monger and suggested (in Spanish) that if he could be dropped over Iraq, that would solve everything.

More typical was the one who told me: "I like Obama because he is brown like me!"

[Frannie]

The girls I have dealt with were mostly working to support their families. Almost all had children by dead beat fathers. I read about these girls with drug habits but personally of the 20 or 30 chica I have been with I can not say I had any indication any were on drugs. I have only had two who would smoke a joint. Maybe what attracts me may be skewing my sample. As for smarts the girls know what is important to them. How to live off their meager incomes. Something we would be challenged to do.I agree with you and nearly all the girls I have known have met the same profile-predominantly family orientated. It may be that we have skewed samples because we go for a certain type of girl.

It used to be said of jazz musicians that they all seemed to be into drink and narcotic drugs and had a lot of contacts with organized crime-which probably hindered mainstream acceptance of their music. But the counter to that was that many were truly dedicated musicians, but the venues that they played were invariable controlled by organized crime (remember Prohibition) , and that there was a great deal of boredom and downtime when on the road.

I tend to see the drinking and possible drug use as side effects of the environment, rather than as choices. In other words, in the DR, girls don't go into prostitution to support drink and drug habits, but to support their families. However if they hang around long enough in the prostitution environment, they probably will end up scamming customers and adopting bad habits.

[OldKool]

Drinking is more excepted in the DR. Many girls use the fog of drink to live with their personal shame. The DR is a catholic country. Being a puta is a hard thing to live with but not feeding your children trumps feeling bad. You are right congregating with wild chicas skews their perspectives. Some become lesbians and men haters.


I agree with you and nearly all the girls I have known have met the same profile-predominantly family orientated. It may be that we have skewed samples because we go for a certain type of girl.

It used to be said of jazz musicians that they all seemed to be into drink and narcotic drugs and had a lot of contacts with organized crime-which probably hindered mainstream acceptance of their music. But the counter to that was that many were truly dedicated musicians, but the venues that they played were invariable controlled by organized crime (remember Prohibition) , and that there was a great deal of boredom and downtime when on the road.

I tend to see the drinking and possible drug use as side effects of the environment, rather than as choices. In other words, in the DR, girls don't go into prostitution to support drink and drug habits, but to support their families. However if they hang around long enough in the prostitution environment, they probably will end up scamming customers and adopting bad habits.

[Frannie]

drinking is more excepted in the dr. many girls use the fog of drink to live with their personal shame. the dr is a catholic country. being a puta is a hard thing to live with but not feeding your children trumps feeling bad. you are right congregating with wild chicas skews their perspectives. some become lesbians and men haters.drinking is more accepted (or excepted?) in the dr? i'm not so sure. i think any woman who goes out drinking unaccompanied or with female friends in a bar in the dr is seen by other dominicans as a puta. possibly this is different for the young jet set of santo domingo, but they must be a small minority.

when a dominican woman develops a taste for expensive imported bar drinks, this is nearly always because she has been associating with foreign men who have bought the drinks for her.

i don't have any data about women drinking in the home. i have never noticed single women buying bottles of rum at the supermarket with the groceries, but then i have not particularly looked for it either. i have known women purchasing drinks for parties, but that's not quite the same thing.

unlike britain where many young women who are not prostitutes go out to clubs at weekends and get blind drunk and fall in the gutter. even there it may be accepted among their peer group, but is generally frowned upon and regarded, at best, as youthful indiscretion, a case of making hay while the sun shines, because their future is probably not so great.

[Jaosousa]

drinking is more accepted (or excepted?) in the dr? i'm not so sure. i think any woman who goes out drinking unaccompanied or with female friends in a bar in the dr is seen by other dominicans as a puta. possibly this is different for the young jet set of santo domingo, but they must be a small minority.

when a dominican woman develops a taste for expensive imported bar drinks, this is nearly always because she has been associating with foreign men who have bought the drinks for her.

i don't have any data about women drinking in the home. i have never noticed single women buying bottles of rum at the supermarket with the groceries, but then i have not particularly looked for it either. i have known women purchasing drinks for parties, but that's not quite the same thing.

unlike britain where many young women who are not prostitutes go out to clubs at weekends and get blind drunk and fall in the gutter. even there it may be accepted among their peer group, but is generally frowned upon and regarded, at best, as youthful indiscretion, a case of making hay while the sun shines, because their future is probably not so great.i have known a few dominicanas who like whisky from scotland. from your posts, seems you stay in puerto plata. brugal rum company is based in puerto plata, i would guess brugal employs a good number of people in puerto plata (60% of brugal is owned by a scottish whisky company). a different scottish whisky company, dewar's is owned by bacardi (bacardi has its headquarters in bermuda). bacardi also owns sapphire gin and grey goose vodka.

some dominicans like motor vehicles made in britain (i believe you posted before that you are british). land rover (owned by an indian company) has at least one dealer in santo domingo (autobritánica ltd) and mg (chinese owned) has a dealer called british motors in santo domingo.

some pics from the internet, brugal on wheels in las terrenas, dewar's whisky promotion in cabarete, mg cars promotion in republica dominicana.

[Frannie]

I have known a few Dominicanas who like whisky from Scotland. From your posts, seems you stay in Puerto Plata. Brugal Rum Company is based in Puerto Plata, I would guess Brugal employs a good number of people in Puerto Plata (60% of Brugal is owned by a Scottish whisky company). A different Scottish whisky company, Dewar's is owned by Bacardi (Bacardi has its headquarters in Bermuda). Bacardi also owns Sapphire gin and Grey Goose vodka.

Some Dominicans like motor vehicles made in Britain (I believe you posted before that you are British). Land Rover (owned by an Indian company) has at least one dealer in Santo Domingo (Autobritánica Ltd) and MG (Chinese owned) has a dealer called British Motors in Santo Domingo.

Some pics from the internet, Brugal on wheels in Las Terrenas, Dewar's Whisky promotion in Cabarete, MG cars promotion in Republica Dominicana.FYI, although a Scottish company has a controlling interest in Brugal, the distilleries are located in the DR and the product is made from DR sugar cane, and is recognized by the EEC as having a Denomination of Protected Origin (D. O. P).

Bacardi, on the other hand, although headquartered in Bermuda is there purely for tax reasons and has no physical presence. The main distillery is in Puerto Rico, although the family that owns it originates from Cuba and has been associated with anti-Castro lobbying in the US.

Anyway the point about chicas requesting imported alcoholic drinks is that they are more expensive than local products.

I have yet to meet chica who owns a Land Rover.

[Jaosousa]

FYI, although a Scottish company has a controlling interest in Brugal, the distilleries are located in the DR and the product is made from DR sugar cane, and is recognized by the EEC as having a Denomination of Protected Origin (D. O. P).

Bacardi, on the other hand, although headquartered in Bermuda is there purely for tax reasons and has no physical presence. The main distillery is in Puerto Rico, although the family that owns it originates from Cuba and has been associated with anti-Castro lobbying in the US.

Anyway the point about chicas requesting imported alcoholic drinks is that they are more expensive than local products.

I have yet to meet chica who owns a Land Rover.The Bacardi who started the company was a Catalan wine merchant from Spain. From the Bacardi webpage "Bacardi Limited is headquartered in Hamilton, Bermuda. The Company opened offices in Bermuda in 1965 and moved into its current Ludwig Mies van der Rohe inspired landmark building in 1972" (Ludwig Mies van der Rohe designed the Martin Luther King Jr. Library in Washington, D. C.).

I said in my post, Brugal is based in Puerto Plata (you seem to stay in Puerto Plata) and my guess is that Brugal employs a good number of people in Puerto Plata. A British company owns around 60% to 83% of Brugal (A British company is profiting from rum consumption in the DR).

Land Rover (including Range Rover) and Jaguar are owned by Tata Motors, an Indian company.

Photos from the internet of the Bacardi Headquarters in Bermuda, Bacardi Island (Cayo Levantado) , Samana, Dominican Republic and Land Rover promotion at Casa de Campo, Dom Rep.

[OldKool]

I think the more they drink the more hard core. Hard core is not always bad. I have known chica who fuck you to death when they are high and so so when not. I think it helpd them forget their problems for a minute. These girls have huge stresses in their lives. Their kids, sick relatives stuff is going on all the time. I had a chica who loved hennesy wanted me to buy when we went out.


FYI, although a Scottish company has a controlling interest in Brugal, the distilleries are located in the DR and the product is made from DR sugar cane, and is recognized by the EEC as having a Denomination of Protected Origin (D. O. P).

Bacardi, on the other hand, although headquartered in Bermuda is there purely for tax reasons and has no physical presence. The main distillery is in Puerto Rico, although the family that owns it originates from Cuba and has been associated with anti-Castro lobbying in the US.

Anyway the point about chicas requesting imported alcoholic drinks is that they are more expensive than local products.

I have yet to meet chica who owns a Land Rover.