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i had visited club la luna before at their well known gang bang party event and at one of their 'normal' event where you pay per play. both events i found reasonably exciting even though the club does have its significant drawbacks. more of this later.
it is reassuring to visit a club that you have visited before. you know what to expect within reason and there should be no nasty surprises. i was expecting a nice solid start to a three day weekend.
the club is a 10 minute walk or a short taxi cab ride from moers station whilst moers is a few stops on the train from duisburg which in turn is about 1 to 2 hours, depending on connections, from cologne or dusseldorf airport train stations.
i had booked a single room at 28 euros at hotel garni which was right outside moers station.
the event i was attending on this friday evening was their flat rate party where you could enjoy upto 8 ao sessions with any girl, for 130 euros.
the party went on till 3am so even though i arrived late and checked into my hotel at 7 pm, i was in no hurry and ambled over to the club at 8pm.
the first surprise of the evening was that the club next door to la luna had changed its name from swingertreff to the incongruous sounding club lipkick. there was a guy in latex pants and vest pants standing on the steps of club lipkick. he knew that i must have come for the party at la luna, so made no attempt to dissuade me but mentioned that there was a gang bang at his club in october, almost two weeks away. ok, i will bear that in mind?
down in la luna the guy in charge, charlie, asked me which ticket i wanted. 'party with condom or wihout condom' he bellowed. it was nice of him to make the choice so stark to avoid any possible misunderstanding.
i had memorised the names and faces of the girls from the internet who were my possible targets. the ones who were supposed to do ao everything including anal. luckily their names all began with a. aida, alina, andrea and so hopefully easy to remember. but there were at least 8-10 girls there that evening who did some sort of ao so should be plenty of choice.
the word that comes to minde most with club la luna is claustrophobia. it is underground, so no day light and no outside areas, which does not matter so much if it is a night event. however, the ceiling is low and the lounge areas are small, hence you feel a little trapped.
when you enter you are struck by the massive space accorded to the reception area. a long reception desk which normally has only one or two people behind. then you enter the main lounge area which is actually smaller than the reception desk area and there is another lounge area which is even smaller still.
the rooms where you take the girls are reasonably spacious though. there are 4 or 5 of those and there is a locker room with space for about 40 lockers. however i only noticed two shower rooms wih one shower head each. and these are meant to service the 8 or more girls on duty and all the customers. hardly sufficient.
finally there is the gang bang room which can comfortably hold about 15. 20 people. during the gang bang everyone is crowded into this room but on this flat rate party event this room was just used as just another room to take a girl for a session and was unused otherwise.
so a lot of largely unused space. which is criminal when you consider that as a customer you are confined mainly during your stay to the two small party areas with seats for up to 10 and 8 people each.
unfortunately if you are not having sex with the girls then there is pretty much nothing to do except stare at the girls sitting opposite you who most likely will not be staring back at you but will be chatting amongst themselves.
this place has changed very little since i last visited about 2 years ago and the management have spent hardly any money on making the place better for the customers. with possibly one small exception – you are offered both a bath robe and a towel as well as the usual plastic slippers.
there seemed to be a lot of regulars who spend much effort monopolising the attention of the girls in the party areas. sitting with the girls for upto half an hour whilst not doing not much other than talking and holding their hands or draping their arms round them as though they were long standing boyfriend / girlfriend.
then the girls would occasionally take a guy to a play room and they would be back within 20 minutes. very punctual, you could set your watch by it.
one good thing i would say about la luna is that it posts photos of most of the girls that work there on their intenet page. however many of the girls are barely recognisable in real life from their photos. the photos are expertly shot with the girls gazing alluring into the cameras with deep sexual promise. however, in the club you find that these same girls don't appear so sexy. some of them spend much of their time either clowning around with each other or indulging in romanian dance moves to any music that is played even if it is western pop music. none of this is really designed to get any one in a sexy mood.
there were a couple of girls there who were very popular and they would be taken frequently to the rooms but most of the other girls had unfortunately let themselves go a bit since the internet photos were taken. alina was hardly recognisable from her photos having put on many, many kilos. aida who looked smouldering sexy in her photos just looked like an ordinary romanian street urchin of a girl and when she opened her mouth you noticed that some of her teeth were missing. as for andrea it wasn't 'muffin top' and 'love handles' so much as side saddle bags that swung from the sides of her waist. i am guessing there was a woman somewhere under all those rolls of fat.
then there was isabella. the tall, bone thin girl who had been at the club for years. she was regularly taken to the rooms but looked too dangerously thin for me to take a punt on. i wondered how many guys she had trafficked bareback over those years?
the rest of the girls were very ordinary looking except for perhaps two who i genuinely found attractive. ivana and alexa.
however no matter how hard i stared at alexa even from a few feet away she showed absolutely no interest. she just completely ignored everyone unless they approached her or physically grabbed hold of her and she walked around with an extremely bored look on her face the whole time. i noticed that whilst she was walking around two different guys approached her on separate occasion put their arms around her and chatted to her. each time she would slowly rub the lower half of her tummy and then a concerned look would slowly spread across her face
what could be the matter? stomach problems? too much dodgy romanian food recently? anyway after a while the guys would nod their heads understandingly and allow her to carry on.
imagine my surprise when about an hour later on in the evening i saw her coming back from one of the rooms with a guy who was significantly more attractive and younger than the two who had earlier approached her. she had obviously made a quick recovery.
it was clear that the evening was not turning out the way that i expected. whilst i was pondering what to do i noticed that alina went into a corner of the lounge, pulled her panties to one side, parted her legs and sprayed what looked like air freshener on to her pussy. half an hour later i noticed andrea do the exact same thing. any thoughts of daty with these girls went out the window at that point.
for these girls their working day revolves around sitting around doing nothing before being taken to the rooms with the guys for 20 minutes of sex. it also appears that they must be working to strict instructions as once the deed is done then they bring the guy straight out again. very repetitive and boring. week in and week out, the same thing.
also boring for the guys as well which is why some of the regulars spent much of the time clowning around and indulging in childish practical jokes with the girls rather than having sex. after a while even this display of light heartedness became wearying for those who were just siting around watching this and not involved in it.
there seemed to be a rule that there was no sexual action allowed in the two lounges. no playing wih dicks, kissing, etc. it was apparently only allowed in the rooms and then only with the doors closed. even the gang bang room, which was being used as a normal play room for this event, had the curtains closed when a guy and a girl was in there.
there was little spontaneity about the evening and as mentioned little to do in the two lounges. one lounge had a tv which showed photos of the girls from the website in a continous loop throughout the evening – to be honest, drove you out of your mind after a while. the girls would occasionally glance at the screen with a blank look on their faces even when they recognised their photos as they had see it thousand of times before. one of the lounges had a dancers pole and one of the girls would occasionally get up and make half hearted attempts to gyrate around the pole.
after more than two hours had elapsed with me being there, a couple of the girls had noticed that i had not gone with any of the women and one of them confronted me about it. so i pointed at one of the attractive girls that was there, ivana, and indicated that i was interested in her. ivana was one of the few girls who did not have a perpetually long face. she actually knew that it was allowed to smile a bit. so with no real other competition i agreed to take ivana to the room.
it was a mistake.
earlier i had noticed that ivana had held up 10 fingers and then immediately another 3 when a girl had asked her a question (in romanian or german) and i guessed the question was most probably how many guys she had taken to the room that evening. i had second thoughts then about taking her.
the first thing that she did when we were in the room was check the ticket that i had, which was a small slip of paper pushed inside the wrist band that i had been given. she noticed that i had an ao party ticket.
she instructed me to lie back on the bed and then immediately began a vigorous hand job. i indicated that i would like a blow job after but before she started it she made clear that i should not come in her mouth. the blow job was uninspiring and as i could not finished the way that i wanted i decided to switch to full sex.
when i tried to push my dick into her i immediately noticed that she had smeared what looked like an oil slick of gel over and inside her pussy. frankly, there was enough oil there to fry a good sized english breakfast for a family of 4.
i decided that i would not get enough friction to cum, even though i was doing her bareback, so i started to work myself up by hand and then once i was nearly there try to push myself into her. however i got the timing wrong and started to come before i had fully inserted. she immediately pulled herself away and reached for some tissues to wipe off the spunk on her pussy. i presumed from her reactons that she would not have wanted me to cum inside?
as soon we had finished she demanded to know whether it was good. i didn't know the words for absolutely crap in german so i nodded my head as i didn't want to argue. then she was in a rush to leave the room immediately. i wanted to go for a shower but she insisted on my accompanying her to the reception desk first where she took the slip of paper from my wrist band, wrote her identification number on it and made a note in a register on the desk. only then did she allow me to go.
after that display i wasn't that eager to take any other girls to the rooms. although taking a girl to the room would have not cost me any more money most of the girls did not really interest me and the couple that did showed no apparent interest in me at all.
the approach adopted by the guys seemed to be to go up to a girl that you liked and talk to her for a bit (in german) and then go to the room. as i did not know any german it was difficult to approach a girl to chat to her as she would not understand me at all. it is not so much a problem in a partytreff or gangbang club where you can just resort to grabbing a girl or just joining in the public action if you are unable to communicate using words.
it would seem that the main purpose of this flat rate evening is some kind of reward for the regular german visitors who normally visit for the pay per session. all the customer seemed to be german. it was not really a party as such. it was not the sort of event where the girls approached of their own free will or threw themselves on the guys.
also there was no alcohol allowed. i had made the mistake as soon as i had arrived and got changed, of retrieving a large bottle of german beer from my locker and striding to reception to ask for a bottle opener. charlie the guy behind reception immediately bellowed that no alcohol was allowed.
he was very abrupt and throughout the evening his charlie guy walked around with a look on his face which sort of said that he had seen everything before and did not really give a fuck about the girls or the customers.
if only i was able to have a few beers then it would have made the evening a whole lot more bearable.
towards the end of the evening a couple of girls did in the end start approaching me but they were girls that i did not find attractive. i also noticed that these were also the girls who i had not seen being taken to the rooms regularly by the guys and so they were obviously concerned that they would have few or no room visits on their record for the evening.
with another two days still to go in the weekend i decided that it was best to save my 'gun powder' and headed off into the night feeling very, very unsatisfied.
With another two days still to go in the weekend I decided that it was best to save my 'gun powder' and headed off into the night feeling very, very unsatisfied.Myrrh another great report, U are such an entertaining writer. I will certainly ROD them when you post the rest.
My attitude when I pay in, is I make the best of it and go for lots of sessions even if the women aren't very attractive. Just take a blowjob or a massage or whatever. Having said that, it sounds like a shit affair alright. Still you went and you reported back here, so fair play for that anyway. Paying €130 for a crap AO party is expensive when you can go to plenty of other crap ones in Krefeld for €50 or 60.
Its a shame the way most of the AO parties seems to be gone crap lately. Maybe some of them will come good again.
The event I was attending on this Friday evening was their flat rate party where you could enjoy upto 8 AO sessions with any girl, for 130 euros.There was no such 8 sessions limit when I visited, some guys had 20+ marks on the card. Must be a recent restriction, sounds reasonable anyway.
The party went on till 3am so even though I arrived late and checked into my hotel at 7 pm, I was in no hurry and ambled over to the club at 8pm.Your experience confirms what I had written in my report. Although the party continues till late hours, you must arrive early to get the girls in a good mood. If you enter after 8pm, it is to be expected that you'll leave disappointed.
I'm sorry for your bad day. Conversely, I had a great time at Laluna, but it appears there were actually too many things you didn't like in this club to enjoy you're stay. Some are a just a matter of personal taste. The decrepit conditions of the club are either to be accepted or to be avoided by keeping yourself away, I doubt they'll ever invest to improve the premises. But to get the best attitude from the girls, it's important to get them while they're fresh. I noticed how disappointed were the late customers who arrived when the girls had already switchted to the idle/"don't bother me" state.
With another two days still to go in the weekend I decided that it was best to save my 'gun powder' and headed off into the night feeling very, very unsatisfied.Good you had more fun ahead, hope you enjoied it, looking forward to your reports.
There was no such 8 sessions limit when I visited, some guys had 20+ marks on the card. Must be a recent restriction, sounds reasonable anyway.
Your experience confirms what I had written in my report. Although the party continues till late hours, you must arrive early to get the girls in a good mood. If you enter after 8pm, it is to be expected that you'll leave disappointed.
But to get the best attitude from the girls, it's important to get them while they're fresh. I noticed how disappointed were the late customers who arrived when the girls had already switchted to the idle/"don't bother me" state.To be honest I have relied upon a recent categoric statement by SwingerLover that the sessions are restricted to 8 on the flat rate party days. SW is rarely, if ever, wrong on the facts so I am assuming that he is right here. I emphasize that I have not seen anything on the clubs website or been told this in person by anyone at the club.
It is the same girls on duty it would appear from 11am to 3am. A very long 16 hour shift. If you are an attractive girl who has already had a dozen sessions in the 9 hours to 8pm then I suppose you will not be actively looking for further action. Which explains why the 2 or 3 genuinely attractive girls there carefully avoided eye contact.
SwingerLover
09-29-12, 16:19
There was no such 8 sessions limit when I visited, some guys had 20+ marks on the card. Must be a recent restriction, sounds reasonable anyway.
But to get the best attitude from the girls, it's important to get them while they're fresh.The 8 session limit was put in place for exactly the reason that those 20+ times fucking, viagra doped guys became to much for an entire day for 130 Euros. But I don't know this first hand, only from what other guys had told me and from what I was told on the phone months ago.
And getting the best attitude from the girls earlier in the day is the same thing as in Krefeld, propably everywhere.
My attitude when I pay in, is I make the best of it and go for lots of sessions even if the women aren't very attractive. Just take a blowjob or a massage or whatever. Having said that, it sounds like a shit affair alright. Still you went and you reported back here, so fair play for that anyway. Paying €130 for a crap AO party is expensive when you can go to plenty of other crap ones in Krefeld for €50 or 60.Exactly on point. And judging from Myrrh's report, the 50 to 70 Euros parties in Krefeld are still way better than the 130 Euro all inclusive day at LaLuna. It seems that the only thing worth visiting LaLuna for is their AO Gangbang. Next one on the 1st of October and extended from 3 to 6 hours with a total of 8 girls. But I think it's still better to go to Gahlingspfad in Krefeld instead for twice as long for only 50 Euros.
And getting the best attitude from the girls earlier in the day is the same thing as in Krefeld, propably everywhere.I misread Myrrhs report and thought the party began at 7pm. But no it began at 11am. If you can't attend these parties no later than an hour or maybe 2 after they start its not worth going. Like SW and Varenne have said, you must go early to get the women fresh.
I often chuckle to myself at guys arriving really late to parties after I am leaving, having being here 12 hours. Women at that time have sore pussy and just want to sleep.
My attitude when I pay in, is I make the best of it and go for lots of sessions even if the women aren't very attractive. Just take a blowjob or a massage or whatever.I agree that if you have spent a lot of money then you really should try and maximise your time. But it wasn't so much that there were not enough really attractive girls there, at least 3 would have been attractive in most guys books, as the fact that they just looked so thoroughly and completely disinterested. As if they couldn't be bothered. I don't really like to make the effort to chat girls up or drag them to the room if they don't look at least a little bit willing.
I have now read Varenne's report about this place from a few months ago and suffice it to say I would not have gone there at the time of day that I did if I had read it before hand. However if a party is being held over 16 hours then you would have thought that the organisers would have been responsible enough to have the girls operating on two shifts of say 8 to 10 hours each. Otherwise it just isn't fair to those guys like me paying the same but who can only get there later in the day. Why not a reduced rate for those arriving later, like they do at other parties, if some of the girls are known to leave early?
This place has it's merits for those guys who keen on multiple AO sessions with youngish (20's) girls and are not too fussed about whether the girls are all attractive or look interested in giving a reasonable performance in the room.
I must admit that whilst I was at this place, on a Friday evening, my thoughts did run back to the time when I first started going to partytreffs and the emphasis there was on the word 'party'. You sat there getting drunker and randier as the free beer flowed and there was the excitement of the gangbangs as well as watching a bit of public action to get you in the mood if you were not involved yourself.
Whereas here I was sitting watching guys go up to a girl and talk with her for a few minutes, then after a while the girl would give a resigned shrug as if to say 'OK, well alright then. I suppose why not'. They would walk matter-of-factly together to the room and then less than 20 minutes later they would walk matter-of-factly back together as if nothing had happened.
It just lacks any kind of excitement or enjoyment and feels just a little bit clinical and cold.
I had visited Club La Luna before at their well known gang bang party event and at one of their 'normal' event where you pay per play. Both events I found reasonably exciting even though the Club...LMAO absolutely brilliant writing!
Sorry for your mishaps. Tbh, just judging by pics I thought that the only club offering AO that seems to be worth visiting is Angelique. Rest are much more often than not look absolutely horrendous, even in their heavy photoshopped / or 50 pounds lighter photos.
Angelique on the other hand is on a class of it's own, at least for my taste. Some of the quality over there I was hard pressed to find similar too in some of the most upscale of FKKs. Wanted to try Eva, but sadly I was unlucky. Seems they closed on weekends (what kind of a stupid idea is that? A brothel that is closed on weekends.)
Germany was definately a great mongering experience. However, I wouldn't head there again, not if I can spend much less money for much more attractive, younger and amaturish fun that can be had in places like Morocco or Ukraine or even the Philipines (although phili is some risky business, they got some new and improved strains of STDs in abundance over there).
After the relatively acute disappointment from the previous Friday evening's visit to Club La Luna, with only 1 mediocre session to show from a 130 euro outlay, I was in need of a severe pick me up.
Where better to do this than at the opening party of a new event at Flamingo FIesta at Schlachthof 6, Gelsenkirchen. 45883.
A total of 24 girls and MILFs. There was a three hour morning party for 49 Euros, a daytime party for 88. 88 Euros and a gangbang night party for 69 Euros. I thought my best bet was to get there for the daytime session given my disappointing evening session at La Luna where the girls seemed to have run out of puff long before I arrived.
Being an opening party I expected a lot of razzmatazz, pyrotechnics and the sort of wanton, care free atmosphere you would expect from people entering into the spirit of a new adventure.
The website mentioned the following:
'scandalous goings without borders and without taboos',
'sexy teen and milfs',
'public group sex fun with 10 women without limits', 'so often and with withwhoever you want',
'live orgasm shows, public strip and fuck action under the foam gun! Enjoy the hot tub! ',
'you need only to bring a good mood and corresponding lust! '.
So as for getting there. Gelsenkirchen was a fairly easy reach by train from where I had stayed at a hotel in Moers but I had experiened trouble finding a cheap hotel / guest house in Gelsenkirchen as most of them, even the cheapest ones, were the best part of 100 euros. So I chose to stay in Essen, which was about 3-4 kilometres away, at a hotel costing only 46 euros.
I had intended to go straight to the hotel and check in but I was running late and by the time I had made the three way journey from Moers to the hotel in Essen and then to the club in Gelsenkirchen I risked mising the vital few first hours of the daytime party. It started at 11am. I phoned the hotel during my journey to see if it was OK to check in later and a guy who spoke perfect English said that it was fine as I could check in anytime.
This meant I could now head straight for the party arriving around 2pm. I was carrying some luggage but I reasoned that the club could cope with that and as the party finished at 8pm I could head back to the hotel to check in afterwards.
The club was only a 10 minute and 10 euro taxi ride from Gelsenkirchen station with many taxis at the station. Schlachthof 6 was a small house and when I rang the bell there was no answer and I could hear no music. I asked the taxi driver to wait and I rang the number on the Flamingo website and passed the phone to the driver. It turned out that I was at the right place but the party was not at number 6 but instead was through some gates to the right of the house which led to the Pink Flamingo bar. The bar had a large locker area with about 25 good sized lockers and after paying and getting a plastic wrist band I entered a modern furnished bar area with comfortable couches, a small space for dancing as well as a long bar. There were a few girls sitting around on the couches and a tv in the back of the bar playing porn.
After being given two towels I was led through the bar and then past a small smoking room and then a space which had a table with a few sandwiches and cakes and then to the stairs. The previous evening I had spent a few hours in a small underground area at club la luna being nearly suffocated as all of the girls there seemed to chain smoke continuously so it was good that they had a smoking room.
Upstairs were 5 bedrooms, three of them large and one of the large bedrooms had an adjoining bathroom with a 4 person jacuzzi. Additonally there were two toilets and two shower rooms with toilets.
I was pleasantly surprised because this party was one of Swinger Lover's recommendations and at some of the other parties that he had frequented in the past the venues had missing toilets seats and non working dirty showers. The showers here were all working perfectly and even had shower gel provided. I noticed that all of the doors on the bed rooms had been removed and were propped up on an outside wall but this had been done deliberately to help the flow of the party.
Whilst I was waiting for the shower I looked into one of the bedrooms and noticed that this older guy was being given a BBJ by this tall, slim, good looking fair girl. But disappointingly after few minutes she slipped a condom on him and he then got on top of her and hammered away coming within 5 minutes. She asked him if everything was OK and he seemed pleased enough.
It turned out that although the doors were removed from the bedrooms there seemed to be an unwritten rule that it was one guy and a girl in the rooms at a time. You talked to the girl of your choice downstairs and when both were happy you went up to the room rather than chancing upon some action whilst passing a room and deciding to join in uninvited on the spur of the moment. If you dawdled too long at an open door watching the action the girl would tend to stop and give you a puzzled look.
Downstairs they started playing some Romanian type music, song after song, and the girls spent much time dancing with each other and then tried to get some of the guys involved with the dancing including myself. I just found it very boring as I didn't come to do folk dancing to gypsy music. But round and round they went holding hands and dancing in group circles which first rotated this way and then the other.
There were 9 women in total and about 7 men. Throughout the day, guys would come and go and the number of men would vary from around 4 to 10 but there were usually at least 1 or 2 women spare at any one time. The only problem was that apart from the first tall fair girl who I had seem having sex upstairs I did not find the rest of the girls that attractive. Some had odd looking faces, others were just too fat and heavy.
There were a couple of girls who came up and seemed friendly but I was just not interested in them but then my eyes fell upon one girl, a smallish girl in her early 30's who from some reason I was attracted to even though she was by no means very attractive. But compared to the others she was. I had assumed that she was Romanian or Bulgarian like some of the other girls that I had spoken to but it turned out that she was Turkish. Her name was Susi.
When I made it clear that I was interested in her she started playing games pushing my swivel chair with her feet so that I was facing away from her and doing the same again when I turned my chair back again. Then she raised her dress to show that she wasn't wearing any panties and laughed when she saw my reaction.
Then she suddenly grabbed hold of my arm and said that we should go to one of the rooms.
Whilst I lay back on the bed she gave me a handjob for almost 10 minutes without seeming interested in turning it into a BJ. So I suggested sex and to my delight she flipped on her back, spreading her legs and presenting her neatly shaved pussy to me. No mention was made of condoms. She was a no condom girl!
But then she uttered the words which were an immediate passion killer. 'You have to cum here' and she pointed to the top of her stomach. As I could not finish the way I wanted it made me lose quite a bit of interest. I then tried to push her legs higher whilst doing her in missionary but she immediately ruled that out pointing out that it would mean that I would go too deep inside.
At my suggestion we briefly experimented with the doggy position but after a while she realised that I was losing interest and suggested that we hit the 'douche' (shower) which did not meet with much resistance from me.
After sitting around for a while downstairs a girl called Steffi came over and was friendly but I noticed that she had lots of small bumps all over her face including on her lips. It is the sort of bumps that you see on the faces of working girls who have had numerous sexual infections untreated and it eventually shows itself on their faces through these skin eruptions. She wasn't particularly attractive either so I was not that keen.
Then later on Steffi came to talk to me again and when she saw that I still was not interested she introduced me to another girl called Denise who had quite a nice face but had a bit of a big stomach which for me is a turn off. Whilst I was talking to the two of them I had the idea that maybe the two of them together might be more attractive than separately. So I suggested if we could go to the room as a threesome. To my surprise they agreed.
By this stage I had started to forget about the bumps on Steffi's face and Denise's spare tyres round her waist.
I should point out that I had learned from my experience at Club La Luna and brought along a few cans of beer which I had hidden in my locker. I would make furtive trips to the locker room to quickly down a can before coming back to the bar lounge area with my inhibitions significantly lowered. The bar only stocked soft drinks, coffee or water and the lack of alcohol would have made the afternoon scarcely bearable in the presence of this motley looking collection of women.
In the room I was enjoying being snuggled between and caressed by two women but things took a turn for the worst when I suggested getting down to some real action. Steffi had been happy giving me a BBJ whilst Denise caressed and kissed my chest but when I suggested that Denise did the same she said that she would only do it with gummi.
When I suggested sex instead they both insisted that they would only do that with gummi. I persisted as I had been led to believe that at this place most of the girls would do AO. But after almost 5 to 10 minutes of arguing it was clear that they were not going to give in.
Then Steff said OK that she would do full sex without gummi but only if I gave her 50 euros. Paying more money at a flat rate event is always a bad idea so I refused. I then cheekily suggested that if they wanted to use gummi then how about anal. Both said that they would do it but only for 50 euros each. By this time I had run out of energy and patience and we agreed to end the session.
As things had ended a little embarrasingly with these two girls both tended to avoid me for the rest of the evening.
My session with Susi earlier had ended disappointingly as well but whilst I was sitting on the settee she suddenly came over and sat on my lap. I started playing with her and she would return to sit with me a few times over the next hour or so.
Then someone decided to blow up some condoms and float them in the bar and the girls started playing with them as if they were balloons and then there was some more dancing by the girls to Romanian music in the bar.
On a couple of times when Susi was sitting with me I tried to get her to play with my dick under the towel which she would do but stopped quickly whenever one of the male staff walked nearby. It seemed that there was no real action allowed in the bar area but only in the rooms upstairs.
I knew that Susi at least did bare back and I didn't want to take one of the other lesser attractive girls to the room only to find that they were not willing to do bareback. So I decided to give Susi another chance.
She took me to the same room as before which was brightly lit compared to the others. She started giving me a hand job and then examined my dick and noticed that the end was a bit red mainly from too much wanking. 'What's this' she asked. She then said that she would be back and went away leaving me lying on the bed for over 5 minutes. I presumed that she had gone away which was kind of rude so I came downstairs only to meet her at the bottom of the stairs coming up again. I decided not to follow her up.
It was now getting close to 8pm and the end of my session. I certainly did not want to be charged an extra 49 euros by staying for the evening session. However by 7. 45pm none of the staff had come up to me to tell me that I needed to go and I noticed that the guys were preparing a mobile foam gun. So I thought that I would stick around just to see how that particular exercise would turn out.
Soon after 8pm the guys started moving the couches aside to form a large space and then the foam gun clattered noisily into life spurting out foam until it had filled the small space. Then 4 of the girls dragged a guy each out into the foam and started dancing with them. Then they got the guys to lie down in the foam and then they got on top of them and started having sex with them bareback.
A feeling of excitement flowed through me and I got my dick out and started wanking furiously. Unfortunately there were no other girls available for me to take. I had forgotten about the fact that the girls were not attractive as this event now seemed to be turning into a public bang which I found exciting. But the show only lasted 10 minutes before they got up and then there was a large amont of foam in the middle of the bar area which the guys started to clear up. This took a long time as they only had towels to use.
The event then went back to the same mode as before of girls taking guys to the room. The other girls now seemed to be actively avoiding me either because I had not seemed interested in them earlier on or because one of the girls had reported back that things with me had not worked out so well when I went to the rooms.
Susi was near me again so started playing with her and she played back grinding her arse into my crotch but when I suggested that we go to the room (I felt that I should have at least one more piece of action before leaving) she immediately got up and went over to a guy sitting next to me. He was a fat guy and he seemed surprised. She indicated to him if he wanted to go to the room and off they went.
Maybe she had suddenly got bored with me but it was very rude and I felt insulted. But to be honest she had been behaving erratically throughout the day so I wasn't really that surprised. I really should have given up on her earlier in the day when things were not working well but there just wasn't that much other choice amongst the other girls. Well there now really wasn't anything worth waiting for and I decided to leave at that point.
Now this place is doing some more parties in the future and their website is:
http://www.flamingo-fiesta.de
None of the girls in the first set of (brightly lit) photos on the website I recognise so this would seem to be photos that they have lifted from another website. A couple of the girls from those photos actually seem quite cute.
From the photos for the downstairs area in the club and you can see that there is not much wrong with the furnishings.
The foam party photos seek to give the impression that it was some sort of free for all action but as I exlained, this did not really happen and the foam party bit only lasted about 10 to 15 minutes before they started clearing it up.The photo of the girls standing near the girl on the bar with the fruits on her are the girls that I DO recognise from the party. Look closely and you will quickly see that they are not really attractive or even slim. The girl with her face blurred out is the Turkish girl Susi.
So the day had been a total disappointment and almost all of the things that they had promised in the advert never happened. No gang bangs, no taboo free girls (girls didn't do AO or were AO lite so no cum inside) and the public sex action only lasted 10 minutes. Even the hot tub which they made mention of was hidden away in one of the rooms upstairs and was unused all day.
A crushing disappointment given all of the publicity blurb beforehand.
Clearly this place must have originally been called Flamingo Fiasco but they unfortunately miss spelt one of the words as Fiesta.
After a thoroughly depressing day at the Pink Flamingo bar my evening spiralled down even further into what would become a complete and total disaster.
I had not checked into my hotel room as I had been desperate to get to Flamingo as soon as possible. Before I went to the club I rang them at around 1pm to say I was going to be late and the hotel had said that I could check in later. After leaving Flamingo I thought I would phone them again as I would now be getting to the hotel between 9 to 10 pm. No one answered for several rings and then some guy who appeared to be drunk answered in poor English and said that there was nobody there. The hotel was closed and everybody had gone. I explained that I had already a confirmed place at the hotel paid for on the internet. He replied, sorry you lose your money and that he had to go now before hanging up.
It turned out that this guy was a hotel guest who had being passing by reception when he heard the phone ring and reached across the desk to answer the phone because there was nobody at reception.
When I got to the hotel I found that the reception was closed but I was able to get into the hotel lobby as some other guests who had keys for the front door happened to be arriving at the entrance of hotel at the same time as me. However with no one at reception to check me in I had no room. I found a note on the reception desk saying that reception closed at 9pm but to ring a number to get my key. I rang the number several times over an hour with no reply.
With no other hotel numbers and no internet access there was nothing left to do except sleep on a chair in reception.
Then as if things could not get any worse I got up to go to the toilet and found one close to reception. I heard some people returning to the hotel and rushed out just in time to see some guy try to run off with my luggage into the lift. I managed to intercept him just before the lift doors closed. However as there were over 100 rooms in the hotel and no security on duty that night I would have had a hard time getting my luggage back.
Life lesson learnt: ALWAYS check into your hotel by the afternoon rather than following your dick because even if it is a large hotel, some greedy hotel owners may skimp on costs by having absolutely no one on duty at all during the late evening and night, leaving you stranded up shit creek.
In the morning the hotel manager was horrified to hear that I had slept in a chair and said that he would not charge me, offered me a room to sleep for a few hours that day as well as a free breakfast. He explained that the hotel receptionist who left at 9pm should have responded to calls on the emergency number until midnight for guests who needed their keys.
Unfortunately I could only sleep for a couple of hours because I was due to go to FKK Arabella for their day session and I was then flying out out of Dusseldorf airport that same day. It would be my last chance to finally break the run of miserable events and try and redeem my weekend.
Myrrh.
You write some depressing reports at times! It sounds like you write these reports in a darkened room with a bottle of whiskey on the table.
Great reports anyway and long too, I write them long and even have to shorten them quite a bit somehow most of the time.
Pity about Flamingo FIesta, it with similar girls to Krefeld but with a place with decent facilities.
That episode at the hotel happened to me once a few years back in Osnabruck. Got to the hotel around after 10. 30pm and shocked to see the door locked and the reception closed much earlier than advertised and had to spend the night in one of the corridors with a few single chairs there, lucky a guest went in and let me in but had to hang around quite a while till this happened. The manageress saw me in the morning and thought I was a vagrant.
SwingerLover
10-01-12, 11:59
Germany was definately a great mongering experience. However, I wouldn't head there again, not if I can spend much less money for much more attractive, younger and amaturish fun that can be had in places like Morocco or Ukraine or even the Philipines (although phili is some risky business, they got some new and improved strains of STDs in abundance over there).Please don't quote entire long reports in the future! It is absolutely unnecessary to have the same long report twice on the same page. Please quote just a few paragraphs you are referring to, everybody who wants to read the entire report can look it up anyway, because it's linked via the quote. Save cyberspace!
You can spend less money in Germany, depending on the places you go to, especially if you go to Gangbangs and groupsex-parties. Of course even those prices can't compare with the ones in Ukraine or the Philies.
SwingerLover
10-01-12, 12:36
Pity about Flamingo FIesta, it with similar girls to Krefeld but with a place with decent facilities.What good are decent facilities when the party is crap? I'd rather have a good party at a crappy place.
Now this place is doing some more parties in the future and their website is:
http://www.flamingo-fiesta.de
None of the girls in the first set of (brightly lit) photos on the website I recognise so this would seem to be photos that they have lifted from another website. A couple of the girls from those photos actually seem quite cute.So it was even worse than I imagined from your previous remarks. Thank god I didn't go there.
And something smells very fishy about "parties in the future", like the party today. The website says: Parties from September 27th every day until today, October 1st. The skinny girl with the tiny tits in the picture in the right top corner is Samantha, who I had written about before. (Parties in MG and KR) The one in the picture directly underneath is called Sibel. (Diffrent Sibel from the black-haired one I know from Krefeld.) They could not possibly be there from SAT to today, because they were also advertised for a party at Gahlingspfad 10 in Krefeld from 10-22:00 today, yesterday and on Saturday. And tomorrow they are supposed to party at Kampstraße 2 in Mönchengladbach, after supposed to have been partying for the past five days in a row. I think I'll stay home this week and look for something decent next Sunday and then go to BareBackKreis again on WED 10th. Krefeld seems to be no good at the moment.
Pity about these bad experiences Myrrh. There are many better places for an AO experience, like Spermastudio or Spermagames (new event at Otober 25th) where girls who could work in a Sauna- or FKK club are offering full service (and creampies as well as CIF / CIM are very common, even "obliged", in SS!). The flat rate / pauschal clubs almost never work for me, especially because of the not so good attitude (do as little as possible) of the girls, and the below average looks (body, face, etc).
Will be curious how you experienced Arabella, which, together with Venus and Grimberg, seem to offer better girls (in looks, attitude and service).
I don't know if it even belongs in this thread anymore, because there doesn't appear to be much AO there, but the all day price is now €69. http://www.flamingo-fiesta.de/
I don't see any mention of any food there, so it might be hard to last all day without it. Still €69 for all day is cheap if you get a couple of decent fucks and a few crap ones I suppose.
http://www.flamingo-fiesta.de/
I don't see any mention of any food there, so it might be hard to last all day without it. Still €69 for all day is cheap if you get a couple of decent fucks and a few crap ones I suppose.
After being given two towels I was led through the bar and then past a small smoking room and then a space which had a table with a few sandwiches and cakes and then to the stairs.They provided food at the party that I went to but it was pretty much untouched throughout the entire evening, pretty much the same story with my cock as well, LOL.
It was not a banquet and there was no hot food but they did make some effort in laying out a few rolls with cheese and ham, etc plus the cakes and they might have had a few fruits and potato salad.
My experience with the girls there was one AO lite session (the girl refused to let me cum inside her) plus a double session where one girl was a total condomette (condoms for sex and BJ) whilst the other wanted extra money for doing AO. Plus I did witness one guy who had FS with condom.
Having said that at least 4 of the girls did shag briefly without condom in a public floor show when they sprayed the foam in the downstairs bar but this only lasted 5 to 10 minutes and was for show and not to completion.
On the latest update of the website they at last post photos of girls that I do recognise from the party rather than ones which appeared lifted from other parties. However in the photos they manage to show one girl as fairly slim but in real life she had a roll of fat round her belly. I remember jokingly grabbing hold of it with both hands. There was another girl who had unsightly bumps all over her face which obvously would not show in a photo unless it was a close up.
They do put on some sexy poses in the photos and look as though they are eager to please. But in reality?
SWINGER LOVER - Do you recognise any of the girls in these photos from previous parties?
SwingerLover
10-03-12, 10:55
SWINGER LOVER - Do you recognise any of the girls in these photos from previous parties?No. The only photo I recognize is the one in the top right corner and only from another ad. She was advertised as "Eda" for the party at Alte Linner Scheiße 7 last week, where it took me over 4 hours to even get someone on the phone. For that party she was advertised as an AO-girl, but who knows?
Anyway, since the Flamingo-Fiasko now seems to have become a total Condomettes-party, (Did you pick up that term from my previous post?) I believe we should be done writing about it in the Bareback thread. Since they now advertise for a party every day, it would generally be a candidate for Wanking's Partytreff Map. But is it advisable to put a place which already started out with only bad reviews onto the map at all? On the other hand, Schneewittchen is still on there too, which in my opinion is by far the worst Partytreff I have ever been to.
Woodypussy1967
10-04-12, 01:03
Great reports guys! Congrats!
I have a query about the girls of Laluna Moers. I read that some of them are offering anal sex. Is this bareback anal or covered anal? Do girls allow cumming inside their assholes? I read that some girls are offering light bareback with cumming outside their pussies. Are there also any other girls apart from those with their pics in the website? Cheers
I have a query about the girls of Laluna Moers. I read that some of them are offering anal sex. Is this bareback anal or covered anal? Do girls allow cumming inside their assholes? I read that some girls are offering light bareback with cumming outside their pussies. Are there also any other girls apart from those with their pics in the website?I have never asked for anal with any of the girls there on my visits, however, I am sure that I read on the website that anal is not included as part of the service with the AO gangbang event.
There is not much opportunity for negotiations with the girls at the gangbang before you get involved in the action. So if everyone knows that anal is not allowed then that saves any misunderstandings.
However at the flat rate and normal days you usually talk with the girl before you go to the room or once you get there. I am pretty sure that if the girls had half a brain they would ask for a premium if they are doing things like bareback anal creampies which they know that the other girls aren't providing.
A rough tranlsation of some text on the website relating to the girls read as follows:
"Female guests are independent contractors and offer their services completely independently and on their own account. The payment of the women present, and accepted by the male guest services used will be based on the respective lady of his choice.
The details please vote exclusively with the female guests. The ladies have with each other on certain prices for individual services and let you know the details of corresponding demand with you. In this context we would like to point out that with the entry of any benefits of the female guests are paid.".
A poor translation but I am sure that you get the general gist!
As for photos, on the website it mentions the names of some girls who are working there but then you look for the photos of these girls on the website but they do not appear or are blanked out.
On a recent visit I noticed some of these girls whose photos were not on the website. None of these girls were attractive, so I could see a perfectly good reason why they would be uncomfortable with their photos being shown there.
SwingerLover
10-05-12, 12:30
A rough tranlsation of some text on the website relating to the girls read as follows:
"Female guests are independent contractors and offer their services completely independently and on their own account. The payment of the women present, and accepted by the male guest services used will be based on the respective lady of his choice.
The details please vote exclusively with the female guests. The ladies have with each other on certain prices for individual services and let you know the details of corresponding demand with you. In this context we would like to point out that with the entry of any benefits of the female guests are paid.".
A poor translation but I am sure that you get the general gist!I'm sorry. I would have let that stand, but the last sentence is flat out wrong. So here's my translation:
"The female guests are independent entrepeneurs and offer their services completely independently and on their own account. Payment of the services offered by the women and utilized by the male guests is to be made only to the respective woman of his choice. You are to work out the details only with the female guests. The ladys have agreed amongst themselves on certain prices for individual services and gladly tell you the details at your request. In this context, we explicitly point out that NO services of the female guests are being payed for with the entrance fee.
LaLuna-Team wishes you a nice stay."
So to be clear, you pay the entrance fee and have to work out details and prices with the ladies / hoors. The only exceptions should be the AO-Gangbang, when the 130 Euros include fucking everybody and of course the flatrate day, which includes sex with every woman, but limited to 8 sessions.
Having had very disappointing visits to Club La Luna Moers and Flamingo (Fiasco) Fiesta on the Friday and Saturday I was in desperate need of a pick me up at FKK Arabella for that Sunday afternoon before I flew out that evening.
FKK Arabella should represent a solid choice although reports on this place on this forum are few and far between. Reports usually state that a visit was made to Arabella as part of their tour and not much else. Maybe there was nothing much to report or maybe there were regulars who were keen to make sure Arabella remained a well kept 'secret'?
Arabella was an FKK where AO was possible but that was as much as I knew about the place.
The address was given as Bochum but from google maps it appeared to be equidistant from Bochum and Gelsenkirchen with Wattenscheid being the nearest train station.
Nudist sauna club Arabella
Lohrheidestr. 63
44866 Bochum (Wattenscheid)
Telephone: 02327 32 82 93.
http://fkk-arabella.com
I took the train from Gelsenkirchen to Wattenscheid and on emerging from the station there was one taxi waiting outside. The ride to Wattenscheid was approximately 7 euros and 5 to 10 minutes.
After being buzzed through the high black gates the door opened and I was met by a tall old German woman and what looked to be her equally old husband or business partner. The tall German woman seemed to be the one who was running the place as the old man disappeared somewhere soon afterwards and I never saw him again for the rest of the visit.
My first impression of Arabella was how dimly lit it was inside. Almost like entering some sort of subterranean tunnel which only had fog lighting installed.
I paid my entrance fee of 25 euros and the old woman asked whether I wanted to go with a girl and after I said naturally yes she said that the total cost would be 55 euros. You had to prepay the first girl that you took up front, at a cost of 30 euros, and it would be 30 euros for every girl after that. The website mentions some other deal about 1 x 60 euro. 2 x 90 euro and 3 x 110 euro but the website seems to be out of date because this was not mentioned to me.
I was given a wrist band with a slip of white paper inside a little plastic holder on the wristband which also had a key with a number attached. I was then given a couple of towels and taken downstairs to the changing rooms and showers.
The large locker room had about 40 to 50 full sized lockers as well as the usual plastic slippers. The showers area had about 6 shower heads but these were on timers with some of them finishing after only 15 seconds so you had to keep pressing the button whilst others lasted a few minutes. The showers had wall mounted shower gel dispensers and were clean enough.
However there were no toilets downstairs so other than pissing in the shower you had to come back upstairs to the ground level for that. Back upstairs in the dimly lit environment I was able to make out that this club was quite an old place with wood panelled walls and dreary red carpeting. There was a maze of narrow corridors leading off from the main reception area to where the play rooms were.
The main reception area had a bar which the tall blonde old woman would stand behind attentively watching everything that happened. Drinks were not served from the bar but instead from a small drinks machine to the side of the bar. Soft drinks and coffee were on offer from this machine. No alcohol was on offer and I did not notice any food in the 4 hours that I was in the club. The website mentioned that there some snacks for example sausage patties provided at the bar but I must have missed that.
Leading on from the reception area there was a lounge with couches lining both walls with girls sitting on them. As you walked the gauntlet of couches I could feel the girls eyes immediately locking on to me, staring at me like I was some sort of prey, immediately trying to make eye contact with smiles on their faces. It was almost the same sort of situation as when a young girl with a short skirt walks into a bar and the guys heads start turning making no atempt to disquise the fact that they are staring at her. Except the situation was in reverse here.
The website said that the girls were aged from 18 or 19 years to their early 30's with most in their 20's. But I did notice one woman there who was the exception who must have been in her 40's or even older. But dim light is a great flatterer and she did not look that much older than her younger colleagues.
Then came the realisation that all of the girls were stark naked which was of course in keeping with the fact that this place was actually a FKK or saunaclub. I never visit FKK's only partytreffs and I was not used to girls walking round completely naked.
Past the first lounge there was a bigger lounge which had several more couches and 3 TV's playing continuous porn but with each one a different video. There were more girls on these couches and also customers. The girls would sit on their own or in a group and the guys would leave their seat to come over to sit with a girl who he liked the look of.
Again, wherever I walked in this lounge I was eye-balled. Made a pleasant change from Club La Luna, Cleopatra Arena and other Partytreffs where my presence was largely unnoticed.
There was a door leading off from the second lounge which led to a small L shaped outside area but as this was the autumn and not the height of summer there was nobody out there. I did however noticed a small hut with a bench with cushions on it where you could take a girl for some semi alfresco action if you were prepared to brave the elements.
Off from the second lounge was a door leading to the sauna. From the glass door inside the sauna you could had a partial view of the second lounge. However the sauna was unused when I was there and no 'action' as such took place in the lounge.
Back in the reception area I noticed some photos with names of the girls stuck up on the bar who were working that day. Also with a few words like AO, girlfriend service or FT (French total?) written on the photos to give some indication as to what the girls did. However there were only 5 photos and there were about 10 girls there that day. This was a little bit of a disappointment as it would have been nice to identify all girls from the photos who were not currently around because they were busy with other customers.
On the website there are no photos of the girls, with the management citing that the girls were shy about this. However I did find another website for a German forum where well photographed pictures of some of the girls were fully displayed naked in various poses.
http://www.freiercafe.com/showthread.php?t=20852
They are definitely not stunning, hard bodied FKK girls but not completely repulsive either. More girl next door.
Back in the second lounge I sat opposite a group of girls and they immediately acknowledged me. This was a pleasant change from the sang froid that I have experienced in other clubs like Cleopatra or La Luna. One of the girls immediately got up and moved to another couch so a space opened up between the girls and I had the choice of which girl to sit with. One of the girls patted the couch to say that I should come and sit next to her.
I took up the invitation and soon was sat between two girls who were showing me close attention. The girl who invited me over, Nathalie, was a young fairly buxom Bulgarian who was 18 according to her photo in the bar. She encouraged me not to be shy and to examine bits of her body whilst her hand went under my towel and was surprised that I had already woken up as my little man had been severely underemployed over the weekend.
I noticed that Nathalie had a bit of difficulty focusing her eyes which made me wonder whether she was on some form of drugs or the other. It was difficult to tell because of the poor light. Not that it would have mattered to me anyway but I didn't want to rush my decision as there might be other girls about so I made my excuses and Nathalie was quite good natured and immediately accepting of this.
This place did not serve alcohol and so I would make a few trips to the locker room to retrieve one of the cans of lager that I had brought along to have a few swigs in order to get myself fully in the mood.
Then I noticed one girl with dyed blonde hair who I had not seen before. She looked a bit slutty but she was with another customer and they were canoodling together like boyfriend and girl friend. So I sat instea on a near by couch with a dark haired girl. Because of the poor light it was only when I was up close to this other girl that I saw that she was actually both young and fairly attractive. She was called Michaella a Romanian in her early 20's.
I mentioned to Michaella that I fancied taking two girls to the room and she immediately pointed to this slutty looking blonde girl who was with this other customer. I didn't want to be rude to the other customer but Michaella said it would be no problem, called across to her friend whose name was Bryanna and the customer, who was a real gentleman, understood straightaway and immediately released her without fuss.
As the three of us walked past the bar the old woman immediately lumbered out and explained that I had one 'credit' for one of the girls already on my tab from when I paid on entering but I would have to pay afterwards for the other girl.
We negotiated down the narrow maze of corridors that are behind the bar to a room. Soon I was lying back with Bryanna giving me a BBBJ whilst Michaella was french kissing me. Then I got Michaella to take over the BBBJ whilst Bryanna ran her tongue over other parts of my body, ball licking and even a little bit of rimming.
After what had only seemed to be a short time, but was probably 10 minutes, Bryanna asked if I wanted sex. No mention of condoms at all. It was just a question of deciding which bare pussy I wanted to penetrate first. I started off with Michaella but after a few minutes pulled out and inserted into Bryanna before switching to Michaella and then back to Bryanna again.
Whilst in missionary with Bryanna I moved her legs higher to try and go a bit deeper. She instintively knew what I was after and without further prompting raised her long legs past my shoulders crossing her ankles behind my neck. With me now locked in position and balls deep there was only going ever going to be one result.
Bryanna demonstrated her better grasp of English compared to the other girls."Fuck that wet pussy. Cum inside me". After all the hassles that I had over the weekend it really felt great to at last be pulling my cock out of a wet and clingy pussy knowing that most of that wetness and soppiness inside was due to me.
The other girl Michaella had been a little bit left out of the action, only being able to stroke my body and give encouraging pushes in the small of my back whilst I was shagging Bryanna. Now as I pulled out she immediately spread her legs and held them to her chest ready to accept my cock only to be told by Bryanna that the action was over for a little while.
After the session I went back to the bar and the old woman there took the slip of paper from my wrist band and wrote the number of one of the girls on it and then kept the paper. She said that I no longer needed it and that I had to get money from my locker to pay the other girl directly and from there on pay each girl directly per session.
I then spent some time sitting around the lounge and walking around a bit. The guy who had been sitting with Byranna when I first saw her asked me in the showers how the session went and he was so enthused that he thought that he would try two girl thing himsel and with the same girls. Soon he was sandwiched between them on the couch with them fussing over him and then soon afterwards off to the room.
This place was reminiscent of old gentlemen clubs of iniquity from bygone eras. There was porn playing on TV screens, guys were lounging around on the couches and the girls were walking around bollock naked. Most of the girls were carrying a little bit of excess puppy fat and a were a bit too round bodied for my liking. The sort of figures that you would see with women that are used for naked art drawing classes.
I noticed that the women who I had previously ignored did not seem to mind at all and were still giving me longing looks. I got talking to Michaella when she came back but the slutty looking blonde girl, Bryanna, was very popular and was busy with customers for an hour or two after our session. Michaella was probably naturally better looking than Bryanna with a fit body but looked a little more restrained. That was probably the reason why the guys were not falling all over her.
To pass the time I did a bit of messing around with Michaela on the couch including a bit of fake shagging but no real action.
The website said that there is a strict limit of 30 minutes in the room but you could indulge in lengthy foreplay including oral on the couch before going to the room. However I never saw any of the girls doing that or any genuine public action other than discreet petting between the customers and the girls.
Apart from Bryanna an Michaella the only girl that I really found attractive was Nathalie, the young tall Bulgarian girl who I had been talking to when I first arrived. She had full breasts and bottom whilst still being quite slim. She was wearing this headscarf and I was imagining that headscarf bobbing up and down over my crotch.
Whilst sitting with Michaella I suggested a threesome with Nathalie. She immediately ruled it out saying that she was Bulgarian and that Bryanna and her were the only Romanians there. There seemed to be some sort of national divide so I let the matter rest.
Later on I thought that I would take Nathalie on her own but I couldn't find her and when she came back she was busy talking with other guys.
I had to get to the airport in good time so I suggested to Michaela that I take her to the room again. However she knew that I was also keen on Bryanna and suggested that we should wait for her. As Bryanna had still not appeared for a while we eventually went to one of the rooms together.
As we passed by the other girls sitting on the couches on our way to the rooms some gave little mutterings as if to say 'why are you taking her to the room again, what about me? ' but with smiles on their faces. It was good natured and it felt great to be in 'demand'.
Just as we were about to enter one of the rooms, Michaella decided to call out Bryanna's name loudly in case she was around and Bryanna rushed out of one of the other rooms and joined us. She had probably just finished a session with some guy and had recently injected spunk still inside her but I decided that sometimes you can worry too much about things like that.
In the room it was back to 'pussy roulette' again swapping my cock back and forth and it made a change from other threesomes that I had experienced in the past where girls would insist that I changed the condom each time I changed girl. Also being bareback you tended to notice little differences in the textures of the pussies. Michealla's was tighter and dryer whilst Bryanna's was a little looser and wetter.
At one point as I was about to start shagging Michaella again she felt a bit dry and used some of her spit from her mouth to lubricate her pussy. Bryanna helped out by drooling some of her own spit onto Michaella's pussy. It is nice when girls use a bit of natural lubrication rather than dousing their pussies with lots of man made gel.
I wasn't sure that I could come quickly by shagging alone so I worked myself up by hand whilst the girls played with their pussies and with each other. Byranna again demonstrated her good command of English pleading over and over again whilst wanking her pussy near to my face " Please give me your spunk. I want some of your spunk inside me baby." When I was ready both girls pulled their pussies apart eagerly but it was time that Michaella got hers and I inserted but some of the spunk ended up both outside as well as inside her pussy.
I jokingly wiped some of the spunk off her pussy and held it up to Michaella's mouth. Bryanna saw the funny side but Michaella pulled away and was clearly not up for that sort of thing. Bryanna was definitely the more wanton of the two but together they made a reasonable team.
Unfortunately there wasn't enough time for another session if I needed to catch my flight.
Would I go back? Almost certainly. It probably has not got the tall, slimmer and prettier girls that you would get in a normal FKK and the facilities are not as good. The standard of the facilities and the girls being on par with that of a partytreff. However the girls make up for their average looks with very good attitudes and the club seems to sticks to an old fashioned customer comes first model. The website mentions that you don't have to pay if the girl does not keep her 'promises' although I am not sure if this is always enforceable.
In terms of improvements I would like to see alcohol being offered and more public action probably with impromptu gang bangs and even a flat rate day. At present this is not the sort of place where you would want to hang out all day because although the club is clean the interior and furnishings are quite old and there is nothing much to do except watch porn on TV in the lounge when you are not in the play rooms.
The gloomy lighting gives a sleazy sexy feel but prevents you getting a really good look at the girls. Also they don't really offer any decent food apart from maybe a little soup and a small snack so this discourages you from staying long and most guys only come here for 3 to 4 hours and for 2 to 3 sessions before leaving. The high turnover of guys means that the 8 to 10 girls on duty during the day are more than enough to cope with the demand.
The old couple management team are probably not keen on following recent trends set by other clubs so I wouldn't expect any changes soon. But if it ain't broke then why fix it? Most of the guys there are regulars who discuss the club on local german forums rather than the international ones. So the clubs has fallen beneath the radar a litle but In any case this probably suits management as they don't want hordes of tourists turning up who might upset the balance of the current customer eco system. Better to have regulars who keep coming for years rather than be an internet sensation for a couple of years and then be quickly forgotten when you're no longer flavour of the month.
You get a consistent and dependable service at Arabella. You get girlfriend type sex with young girls who although ordinary looking have an old fashioned attitude towards pleasing the guy. This is alien to most of the other chain smoking, mood swinging and self serving girls that I meet at many other clubs.
My one regret on leaving this place? After being messed around so much at the other clubs that weekend I was so grateful to at last be getting hassle free bareback sex that I completely forgot to ask the girls about other services like anal and CIM that might be on offer. Well maybe next time?
My one regret on leaving this place? After being messed around so much at the other clubs that weekend I was so grateful to at last be getting hassle free bareback sex that I completely forgot to ask the girls about other services like anal and CIM that might be on offer. Well maybe next time?Myrrh,
That was another great report from you. Is this your final report of your recent tour? Please let me know and I'll ROD them.
Also what was your total spend in Arabella? Do they still charge 30 extra for AO there?
I was there briefly a couple of years ago but they were closing early or something and I only managed one girl.
Here is my report from 2010 http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1100-Other-FKK-Clubs&p=1093912#post1093912
Myrrh,
Is this your final report of your recent tour?
Also what was your total spend in Arabella? Do they still charge 30 extra for AO there?
I was there briefly a couple of years ago but they were closing early or somethingThanks Wanking. This was the final event of my three event weekend trip before flying out and it went some way towards redeeming the weekend.
The girls do not (or no longer?) charge extra for AO. The Arabella website makes it clear that the girl has to do what she promises to do on the website or you can ask for your money back. After paying the 25 euro entrance it was 30 euros for each session with a girl. I had two sessions with two girls per session so a total spend of (30x4) +25=145 euros for 4 sessions.
Not cheap but not that bad considering that if the girl you chose said that she did swallowing or bareback anal on the website then you would get that for the 30 euros. Yes, you can get multiple AO sessions for cheaper at places like Cleoptra Arena or Club La Luna on their flat rate days but there you might find a small number of girls who will do AO (CA) or girls who have poor attitudes or are AO lite (CLL).
Your 2010 report mentioned something that I did not realise that the club can be reached from Gelsenkirchen via the U-bahn. This is a bit cheaper than travelling by train to Wattenscheid and then taking a 7 euro taxi one way.
The problem with information about this club is that it is not in one place but is spread over many different areas of the forum including Bochum, FKK and Bareback club threads.
BTW, that photo of yours was great as it gives a great feel of the musty, frowsy surroundings inside the club. Almost like the inside of your aunty's house or an old country pub which has not had a makeover in 20 years.
Also good to see that you do not always follow your Number 1 rule.
If you can't attend these parties no later than an hour or maybe 2 after they start its not worth going. You must go early to get the women fresh.
I often chuckle to myself at guys arriving really late to parties after I am leaving, having being here 12 hours. Women at that time have sore pussy and just want to sleep..
Does La Luna now entirely let the girls set their own prices? Last year it was 90 euro AO and allowed to finish inside the girl? From reading other posts now the girls charge what ever they want? Seems real easy to get scammed. Also Myrr reported La Luna most girls are AO lite, does that mean that they won't allow a creampie ending? And if you "Accidently" do then what?
I am planning a trip for 2nd week of November, so trying to plan my clubs carefully. I come from San Francisco only once a year so I want to get the most and best value. I am somewhat intrigued by the All Incusive parties, if I get there before the girls get worn out or find another all incl party.
At La Luna, on the all inclusive days, if available can you take two girls at same time, and switch between the two whilst fucking them?
Thanks.
PS- If anyone wants a wing man 2nd week of Nov. PM me and we can set up a plan
Last year it was 90 euro AO and allowed to finish inside the girl? From reading other posts now the girls charge what ever they want? Seems real easy to get scammed. Also Myrr reported La Luna most girls are AO lite, does that mean that they won't allow a creampie ending? And if you "Accidently" do then what? I am somewhat intrigued by the All Incusive parties, if I get there before the girls get worn out or find another all incl party.
At La Luna, on the all inclusive days, if available can you take two girls at same time, and switch between the two whilst fucking them?At La Luna, management make it clear on their website that after you have paid the entrance fee then you negotiate directly with the girl. If you have agreed AO then what is stopping a girl from saying that she does not want creampie? By refusing to shag for more than 5 minutes at a time or not allowing you to get much of your dick into her then she could make it difficult for you to cum and offer a handjob to finish you off instead. Management would not be interested in your complaints.
There has been talk that some of the girls at La Luna prefer to be AO lite but I did not report that myself to be honest. I think that rumour has come from another forum and was mentioned by another member here.
The flat rate event sounds great but when I attended it was late in the event and the girls seemed uninterested. I don't know what their attitudes would be like earlier on in the event but it could hardly have been worse. In any case there is now thought to be a limit of 8 sessions at this event.
I don't think the girls at this event would mind you taking two to the room because it means less work for them individually. I mean it would be kind of difficult for you to come inside both of them simultaneously.
Also the standard rate at La Luna on a normal day of 90 euros for bareback sex cum inside seems a tad high. You could get that for 30 euros at Arabella or do it three times for the one time that you did it at La Luna.
And if you do happen to 'accidentally' creampie an AO lite girl then you should practise ROTFLYFAO.
Also good to see that you do not always follow your Number 1 rule.
My No. 1 rule applies to flat rate clubs. Women in sauna clubs or FKKs don't tend to get fucked non stop all day the way party girls do, plus they are getting paid alot more per session, so the incentive for a decent session should still be there. For those reasons I don't mind calling to FKKS/Sauna Clubs late in the day, not that I do very often anyway.
The pricing now in Arabella is much more attractive. Entry and 3 x AO fucks for 110 or 115 is reasonable value. Where before when you had to add 30 euro extra for every AO shag it would have almost doubled the price for entry and 3 x AO shags.
The pricing now in Arabella is much more attractive. Entry and 3 x AO fucks for 110 or 115 is reasonable value. Where before when you had to add 30 euro extra for every AO shag it would have almost doubled the price for entry and 3 x AO shags.The website.
http://fkk-arabella.com/index.php/Infos.html
Mentions this deal of
Pay no entrance fee but you buy a ticket of either 1x60, 2x90 or 3x110 euros sessions of 30 minutes each. If you wanted to more sessions then you would have to buy some more tickets.
However this seems to be out of date because when I entered the club I was told that the pricing was pay entry of 25 euros and then you pay 30 euros for every 30 minute session. This seems to be confirmed by a post by the club in the freier cafe forum.
www.freiercafe.com/showthread.php?t=19804.
So it appears that they are following this pricing policy now but have not yet updated their website.
The 1x60, 2x90 or 3x110 deals would not make sense now in any case because if you paid entry of 25 euros with 30 euros for each session then for 1 to 3 sessions you would pay 55, 85 and 115 euros. So you would only save 5 euros if you took the 3x110 deal and lose money if you took the 1x60 or 2x90 deals.
For sessions of 4 or more the 'pay 25 euros entry and only 30 euros more per session' arrangement would be cheaper than buying more 1x60, 2x90 or 3x110 tickets.
I rarely cum more than 3 times in a few hours so 3 AO sessions for 115 euros would be good enough for me especially if I got exactly what I paid for. With Arabella there is a good chance of this because there are descriptions as to exactly what the girl will do on the internet and in the club. Management has stated that you can get your money back if the girl does not do what she says that she does on the website and the girls are no doubt aware of this.
Of course if you are after multiple AO sessions of 5, 6 or more and are not too worried that the outcome in some of these sessions may fall below what you were expecting then flat rate days at La Luna and Cleopatra make more sense financially.
SwingerLover
10-07-12, 15:37
http://fkk-arabella.com
also being bareback you tended to notice little differences in the textures of the pussies. michealla's was tighter and dryer whilst bryanna's was a little looser and wetter.thanks, myrrh, for this epic novel!
glad to see that you had at least one good day on your otherwise lousy trip. i especially liked the part which i quoted above. it's what i'm always saying; when fucking bareback, you really feel the woman. something that can never happen with a rubber on.
and finally an fkk with ao-girls and an affordable price structure. 25 euros entrance and 30 euros per bareback session, even including anal, is definitely okay! if it wasn't two and a half hours away and is always as good as your report suggests, i would propably be there twice a month. but nice to know that there is a decent option for ao which is available every day at a good price. and at least 13 of the 18 girls currently advertised on the website do ao. since "safer sex" or "kein ao" is mentioned by some,"keine tabus" has to mean "everything" and has to include ao. (i wonder if "keine tabus" = "no taboos" goes as far as to include [CodeWord101] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord101).)"keine tabus, außer anal und ft" and "anal größenabhänging" means "no taboos except anal and cim" and "anal depending on size". size of the dick of course. and ft stand for "französisch total", meaning cum-in-mouth, including swallowing.
the only thing missing now is an occasional flatrate-ao-gangbang.
http://fkk-arabella.com/index.php/unsere_girls.html
The Club La Luna site has some other terms like ZK and NS. Do you have any ideas what those letters stand for? am guessing ZK means french kissing but I am not sure about NS as most of the girls say No to this with a few saying Active. Does it mean creampie?
Also, with the Arabella site I am not clear what the difference between those girls who say AO and those who say no taboos. Also some girls say girlfriend sex.
To me sounds pretty much the same thing if you are after unprotected sex. You should at least expect unprotected full sex with AO, no taboos or girlfriend sex?
It would be better if they also stated whether the girls allowed creampie because AO could also mean AO lite.
Finally, with "Französisch total" I had always assumed that this was just CIM, and therefore the girl could spit if she wanted to. Is there another german term for just CIM?
On the La Luna site some of the girls e.g. Alexa say Französisch mit Aufnahme (which i presume is CIM) whereas the others say Französisch ohne (French without)
the club la luna site has some other terms like zk and ns. do you have any ideas what those letters stand for? am guessing zk means french kissing but i am not sure about ns as most of the girls say no to this with a few saying active. does it mean creampie?i think i might be able to answer some of my own questions.
a check on the internet showed that:
zk = zungenkuesse or literally tongue kisses, in other words, french kissing.
ns = natursekt or literally natural champage, in other words, [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134).
as for creampie, i know that the girls who participate in the gangbang at la luna do it at the gangbang so we must presume that they will do it at the flat rate days as well.
it's high risk because of no testing, but i must admit that the thought of 8 girls participating in a 6 hour ao gangbang, with 4 girls on during each gangbang session, is highly exciting. even though anal is not included.
SwingerLover
10-07-12, 18:51
the club la luna site has some other terms like zk and ns. do you have any ideas what those letters stand for? am guessing zk means french kissing but i am not sure about ns as most of the girls say no to this with a few saying active. does it mean creampie?
also, with the arabella site i am not clear what the difference between those girls who say ao and those who say no taboos. also some girls say girlfriend sex.
to me sounds pretty much the same thing if you are after unprotected sex. you should at least expect unprotected full sex with ao, no taboos or girlfriend sex?
it would be better if they also stated whether the girls allowed creampie because ao could also mean ao lite.
finally, with "französisch total" i had always assumed that this was just cim, and therefore the girl could spit if she wanted to. is there another german term for just cim?
on the la luna site some of the girls e. g. alexa say französisch mit aufnahme (which i presume is cim) whereas the others say französisch ohne (french without) up front a useful link which i had already posted here before:
www.traummaennlein.com/abkuerzungen.htm
you're right about zk, it's short for zungenküsse and translates as tongue-kisses; ergo: french kissing. ns stands for natursekt (= natural champagne) and means [CodeWord103] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord103). or to be blunt: [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140).
as i understand the arabella-site, those with "keine tabus" do everything, and everything ao, those where it says "ao, top girlfriend-sex" do ao, but have other taboos and do maybe no cim or anal. so those no-taboo-ones should do everything including cim with swallowing and anal-ao including anal-creampie. i still wonder about ns. because in my book no taboo means no taboo. so they should be available for pissing-games too. and for creampie-gangbangs as well, if enough guys are there who want that. the question is how much that would cost and for how long. a gangbang for only 30 minutes? maybe i should give them a call and ask?
you might be right about the girlfriendsex-ao-ones. could be that they only do ao light. the no-taboo-ones should do full ao.
the ft-term is confusing. without cim and swallowing, it is called fp (fr. pur) whereas ft (fr. total) in my book means swallowing. nevertheless, some advertise ft and still don't swallow. as some do advertise "tabulos" and still want to do only rubbers. the worst example of the latter is this "anjas leidenschaften" in bochum who do only rubbers, still used to advertis "tabulos" and are bragging on their website about throwing everybody out if they even ask about ao! this place is on my blacklist for that alone. what kind of behaviour is it to throw out customers for just asking about a service. if you don't want to do it, just say no and continue. throwing people out just for asking, pffffttt! but i'm straying.
the only other german term for cim i know is "ma" = "mit aufnahme". so that would be "frz. ma" or "blasen mit aufnahme" (= cim) or "blasen mit schlucken" (= bbbj with swallowing) ; and "französisch ohne" only means bbbj. (just the blowjob, generally without cim or swallowing, so same as fp) and to just complete the confusion,"fo" can stand for the "fr. ohne" only-bbbj, as well as for "fr. optimal" which is bbbj with cim and sometimes even swallowing. confusing enough?
. So those no-taboo-ones should do everything including CIM with swallowing and anal-AO including anal-creampie. I still wonder about NS. Because in my book no taboo means NO taboo. So they should be available for pissing-games too. And for creampie-gangbangs as well, if enough guys are there who want that. The question is how much that would cost and for how long. A gangbang for only 30 minutes? Maybe I should give them a call and ask?Going by the Arabella website there are 6 girls who do absolutely everything so they would have enough girls to do a no holes barred creampie gangbang. The rest of the girls could take an off day.
There at least another 5 who will do creampies but don't want to do either swallowing or anal, so they could serve as back up if needed.
The club normally has 8 to12 girls on during the day so if they turned one day into a gang bang day with those 11 girls described above then they could run a full house of girls but instead make more money than they would during a normal day.
If they charged 125 euros per customer for this with 25 euros going towards their normal entrance fee then I am sure that they would get probably at least 3 or 4 times as many guys turning up during that day than during the normal days. The girls on that day would probably also make far more money than they would normally too.
If they really were taboo less girls then they wouldn't mind handling several cocks at one time or several guys one after the other.
The problem is that takings for the club from other days maybe down as a result and they would have to take that into account. Also the regulars may prefer the one to one sessions and so they might have to recruit some new customers just for that gangbang day.
However I suspect that the old couple management team may find all this as way too revolutionary and they are probably doing just fine as they are.
FrenchieAtlanti
10-07-12, 22:14
I expect to go at the GB01 at Mörfelden on Friday evening. Is someone has already gone at this type of event of GB01?
I don't see reports about it in this forum. The movies on the sites looks very active, but the duration is less 15 mn and it could'nt reflect the entire party.
If someone have an experience for it.
SwingerLover
10-08-12, 09:19
However I suspect that the old couple management team may find all this as way too revolutionary and they are probably doing just fine as they are.Yes, I agree with your assessment. I was just day-dreaming out loud a little. Anyway, if they were to take their slowest day of the week and the slowest time of that day (That way they would scare away the least number of regular customers.) to have a 6-hour-12-women-AO-gangbang, I predict that even for a flatrate price of 150 Euros they would be overrun by 50 guys.
Yes, I agree with your assessment. I was just day-dreaming out loud a little. Anyway, if they were to take their slowest day of the week and the slowest time of that day (That way they would scare away the least number of regular customers.) to have a 6-hour-12-women-AO-gangbang, I predict that even for a flatrate price of 150 Euros they would be overrun by 50 guys.I agree as well except over a 6 hour period many guys would come and go, as some would have their fill after only 2 to 3 hours. So you would end up with nearer 100 guys passing through the door without the male to female ratio ever exceeding 4 to 1.
The only problem is if your idea of pissing is allowed then those famous old red carpets may become more than a little soiled, LOL.
I still wonder about NS. Because in my book no taboo means NO taboo. So they should be available for pissing-games too.
The main reception area had a bar which the tall blonde old woman would stand behind attentively watching everything that happened.No doubt she was Barbara. She really knows how to keep order, nothing passes unnoticed to her attentive gaze. Girls who don't comply, are soon sent away from the club. She's not every day in Arabella anymore, as she now also manages Villa Venus Duisburg (
http://www.fkk-venus.com
) and Villa Erotica Iserlohn (
http://www.fkk-erotika.com
). When she's not on duty the difference is palpable, the girls are more relaxed, but also tend to easily get out of hand.
However I suspect that the old couple management team may find all this as way too revolutionary and they are probably doing just fine as they are.There was a time when Barbara used to arrange flatrate days for 150€ (limited to 1 session / girl, no extra included). On those days it was also possible to have normal sessions. After a short time the flatrate option was removed. It probably was a fiasco, as most customers at Arabella drop by for just 1 or 2 sessions. But many things have changed since that time. Barbara studies carefully the names and annotations on the returned cards, and often tweaks the price structure accordingly. I think that she would be open to pretty much everything. If she doesn't offer gang-bangs, she probably thinks they wouldn't be rewarding. As you noticed, the clientele is mostly made up of regulars, who are happy with the club as it is, therefore she must be cautious when making changes.
SwingerLover
10-09-12, 17:08
the clientele is mostly made up of regulars, who are happy with the club as it is, therefore she must be cautious when making changes.Of course it wouldn't make any sense if they alienated their regular customers with changes. A flatrate gangbang would propably only make sense for them, if there was a slow day. Then they could take the six slowest hours to try an AO-Gangbang in order to attract more new people and give them an opportunity to sample the girls for some future visits at a regular day. Naturally, serving the regular customers and their preferences has always to come first.
starting these bareback threads was an inspired move for those who have caught the bareback bug (no pun intended!).
however this thread may be missing half the story as there are fkk / sauna / other clubs which do not do flat rate or have parties or events. so these establishments by definition do not qualify for this thread.
but the problem is that they may not be adequately captured elsewhere on this board and this is probably beause there is no equivalent bareback thread in the fkk section.
as we know there are clubs where you can get bareback on a day in, day out basis rather than on particular days.
some of these clubs have now been reported on regularly, for example, dv raubach (because it has its own thread) or sporadically like fkk arabella or la luna (because of one-off reports)
however there are others which are hardly reported on at all, for example
grimberg sauna.
belami.
villa venus.
some of these clubs are linked together and there could be others which are part of the same chain. do these other clubs also offer a regular bareback daily service.
cleopatra arena (where bareback can be had daily with some girls) is linked to the following clubs
gelsenkirchen buer partytreff
emmerich partyreff.
partytreff mg-rheydt.
is it the same set up as at cleopatra at these other clubs. i have read somewhere that emmerich does a flat rate event day like cleopatra arena where bareback is possible.
information that we do have about these clubs are rep001tered across different threads for example 'other fkk', 'bochum', etc rather than collated in one thread.
then of course there may be fkk clubs where bareback is regularly offered by the girls as part of an unofficial service but apart from visiting all these clubs, asking all the girls and getting your face slapped once or twice then you may never find out.
there may also be swinger clubs where bareback is a regular occurence.
what we really need is a bareback thread in the fkk section which will list all of these clubs whose services are currently uncovered (again no pun intended!)
SwingerLover
10-11-12, 12:09
but i don't think a seperate bareback thread should be in the fkk forum. because then we might as well have a third bareback ao thread for one-on-one p4p in the germany forum for everything outside of fkks and parties. i think for right now, the bb ao thread here should suffice for any and all ao possibilities. but if you want to start a seperate thread in the fkk or the regular germany forum, be my guest.
starting these bareback threads was an inspired move. however this thread may be missing half the story as there are fkk / sauna / other clubs which do not do flat rate or have parties or events. so these establishments by definition do not qualify for this thread. but the problem is that they may not be adequately captured elsewhere on this board and this is probably beause there is no equivalent bareback thread in the fkk section.
however there are others which are hardly reported on at all, for example grimberg sauna. belami. villa venus.
some of these clubs are linked together and there could be others which are part of the same chain. do these other clubs also offer a regular bareback daily service.
cleopatra arena (where bareback can be had daily with some girls) is linked to the following clubs: gelsenkirchen buer partytreff. emmerich partyreff. partytreff mg-rheydt.
is it the same set up as at cleopatra at these other clubs. i have read somewhere that emmerich does a flat rate event day like cleopatra arena where bareback is possible. information that we do have about these clubs are rep001tered across different threads for example 'other fkk', 'bochum', etc rather than collated in one thread. then of course there may be fkk clubs where bareback is regularly offered by the girls as part of an unofficial service but apart from visiting all these clubs, asking all the girls and getting your face slapped once or twice then you may never find out.
there may also be swinger clubs where bareback is a regular occurence.
what we really need is a bareback thread in the fkk section which will list all of these clubs whose services are currently uncovered (again no pun intended!) partytreff-mg-rheydt is not ao. i've talked to several guys about this place, i asked about ao everytime, they all told me no. about emmerich, i'm not sure if there is ao anymore, at least not sure about the flatrate party. but i don't really follow this one, because it's too far away. gelsenkirchen-buer-partytreff might be closed, since there is no website available anymore.
bareback occurences at swingerclubs may very well be posted in this thread here, because swingerclubs are usually flatrate.
but i agree that it would be better if the ao action aside from flatrate events and parties would be collated in one thread, instead of being rep001tered all over the 3 germany forums. there was just now a short report in the otherareas thread of the germany forum from a guy who had visited lisa at seidenstraße 17 in krefeld for some p2p ao action. that would have been a candidate for a seperate ao thread too. another problem is what guys should do who visit fkks and do ao as well as covered. do they write two seperate reports about one visit as i did about my visit to swingerclub lovers paradise for the sexy-susi ao gangbang? propably too much to ask. writing about the covered action in the ao thread is totally misplaced, so they will keep writing in the fkk-thread. and what do you do with places like pascha, where there's no flatrate, no fkk-nudity, but ao maybe still be available? (for the record: i don't know if ao is available at pascha. but at a place this size, i would be very surprised if it wasn't.) so if another ao thread is started, i think it should be in the germany forum, rather than the fkk forum. another option is to start it in the "special interest" forum. but that would be open for bareback reports from all over the world and the reports about germany might get lost in there.
so i like to suggest to leave it as it is now, and reports about ao, even if it's not flatrate or parties, should be put into this thread here and a seperate fkk-ao-thread should only be started if fkk-reports would become to many.
Travelerb69
10-12-12, 06:40
Guys, I wrote the same post at the "Other FKKS" Thread cause they do not have flat rates parties at this club anylonger, but since it is also an AO club thought it might interest you here and the info could get lost there, so here goes the same post again. If there is a previous thread about it, feel free to move my report to there.
Hope does not sound like I have invented the wheel here, but for those who do not know, this club like splitted from La Luna in Moers, some girls used to work there, but IMO much better than La Luna. And likewise, it is an AO club-bareback.
How to get there: I am always on wheels while in Germany, so have no idea about public transportation. The club is quite centrally located, so during day time difficult to park, but if you go to the first left there is a free public parking lot about 100 meters away-
All girls are Romanian, attractive and with good behavior outside and inside the room. Probably management is very strict about this, cause most times after I left the room the manager or Ruby, one of the working girls would ask me if all went well. Forget about bad experiences with Romanians in other clubs, they are really nice there. All girls I met spoke good english.
Prices: 20 euros to get in, snacks, fruits (no meals) and soft drinks included.
For covered fuck:
20 minutes 30 euros.
30 minutes 50 euros.
60 minutes 80 euros
For AO, add 30 euros to each session, regardless of time. So IMHO one hour AO for 110 euros is quite a good deal. AO includes cumming inside.
All rooms (4, if not mistaken) are nice and have showers. Careful cause if you say nothing girls assume you want to do it AO, like most customers there. And with a few girls if you opt for covered fuck you also get a covered blow job, but there are exceptions, depending also if girl knows or likes you.
I was at this club 4 times. First time was in February 2012 when they used to have flat rate parties for 120 euros AO inclusive, a real bargain. Now they do not have parties any longer.
On Tuesdays (if not mistaken) FKK day, all girls are naked, other days they wear lingerie or sexy clothes.
Dressing code for guys is towel but possible to get a robe.
Last time I was there about one week ago there were 7 girls present, I would say 3 were very attractive and the other 4 fuckable. If it was flatrate day I would fuck all of them-LOL.
DFKissing and pussy licking seem to be included in the service with all girls from my experience.
Girls I did there in all my visits that are still working there were:
Alice, small brunette, short hair, sometimes wear glasses, very nice but a bit moody, on a following visit she did not look well so I aborted, my friend did her and it was shit. She is on vacation right now.
Ruby-small brunette again, short hair. My favourite, a sweet heart, GFE and PSE at the same time-
Alina- tall brunette, IMHO the most attractive, provides great service too.
Selena-slim brunette, beautiful face, great kisser, highly recommended too.
Angie, fake blond, a bit chubby, good but not au pair with the others.
Arianna, slim brunette again, very good but during my last 2 visits she was not there, supposed to be on vacation.
Summary: a very good option if:
1-If you do not want to spend too much money and go for quick sessions of 20 minutes.
2- Or if you are an AO fan- then this the club for you.
For covered standard fuck, the price 50 for 30 minute is the standard one and au pair with other clubs.
Their web site-
http://www.saunaclub-angelique.com/
They have also a branch of the club with less girls somewhere near but I have never been there, info about it at the site.
Hope that helps,
Tb69
SwingerLover
10-12-12, 10:18
Guys, I wrote the same post at the "Other FKKS" Thread cause they do not have flat rates parties at this club anylonger, but since it is also an AO club thought it might interest you here and the info could get lost there, so here goes the same post again. If there is a previous thread about it, feel free to move my report to there.
I was at this club 4 times. First time was in February 2012 when they used to have flat rate parties for 120 euros AO inclusive, a real bargain. Now they do not have parties any longer.Thank you. Good idea to post your report here as well. Just what Myrrh and I have been writing about. This report would have been a candidate for a seperate AO thread in the Germany forum, but not in the FKK forum, since Angelique isn't FKK. Except on their FKK-day, then the report could have been in a bareback forum of the FKK thread. See the dilemma? As long as it doesn't get swamped with reports from FKKs, I think this one regular Bareback AO thread here in the Partytreff forum will do.
I wonder what happened to the flatrate day. As many of you might recall, they had a poll going on in the late springtime this year whether they should do gangbangs, stick with their occasional flatrate days or don't do any flatrate anymore at all. I had checked last on the day before the poll ended and the gangbang version was in lead with nearly 60 percent. To keep the flatrate days as they are was the runner-up with a little over 20 % and the no-flatrate-at-all version was the loser with under 20. After the poll ended, they had one more regular flatrate day as they used to have them before on the 12th of July, since then nothing anymore. No sign of any AO-flatrate-gangbang, no more flatrate days either.
What's the point in having an opinion poll and then choose the option that comes in dead last? For NOT doing any flatrate anymore, they didn't need to ask anybody. And if they ignore the result of the poll completely, then why run a poll if the first place? They might as well be the german government, which also runs polls and then does the exact opposite of the result, like for instance implementing the Euro against the will of nearly 80 % of the people. So Angelique for president? Stupid!
By the way, the link in Tb69's report doesn't work, so here it is again:
www.saunaclub-angelique.com
Travelerb69
10-12-12, 14:48
I wonder what happened to the flatrate day. As many of you might recall, they had a poll going on in the late springtime this year whether they should do gangbangs, stick with their occasional flatrate days or don't do any flatrate anymore at all.
www.saunaclub-angelique.comWhat the girls told me is that they felt really tired serving so many customers on flat rate days. When I was at the party last February there were only five girls for more than 20 guys sometimes. Girls probably felt really tired although quality of service never dropped IMO and I was able to fuck all girls twice which means I went to a room 10 times, not bad. But anyway, if they have this situation, why making the poll? You have a point here.
Tb69.
Tb69Website suggests that they have another location in Duisburg where entrance is free. Any words on that?
Travelerb69
10-12-12, 15:23
Website suggests that they have another location in Duisburg where entrance is free. Any words on that?
Nope. Never been there nor even talked to someone that has. Even did not know entrance was free. I might try it next trip.
Tb 69.
What the girls told me is that they felt really tired serving so many customers on flat rate days. When I was at the party last February there were only five girls for more than 20 guys sometimes. Girls probably felt really tired although quality of service never dropped IMO and I was able to fuck all girls twice which means I went to a room 10 times, not bad. But anyway, if they have this situation, why making the poll? You have a point here.
Tb69.Sounds to me like the girls didn't like the flat rate days too much so management had the poll to find out what the customers thought.
Gangbangs were what the customers really wanted but were probably definitely out of the question. If the girls "felt really tired serving so many customers on flat rate days" then imagine how they would feel after a gangbang day!
So carrying on with the flat rate events seemed a good idea since this was the customer's second choice and was what was already happening. But with 20 Cialis chewing sexoholics at a time banging all the girls twice each at the parties the girls not surprisingly rebelled.
If my local restaurant decides to throw occasional eat-as-much-as-you-like events I am careful not to be seen as pigging out too much in case the owner withdraws the offer.
Club La Luna are supposed to have slapped a 8 session limit per person at their flat rate event.
Bear in mind also that several girls moved from La Luna (famous for it's monthly AO gangbangs / flat rate parties) to Angelique and probably did so for a good reason.
SwingerLover
10-13-12, 12:23
Sounds to me like the girls didn't like the flat rate days too much so management had the poll to find out what the customers thought.
What the girls told me is that they felt really tired serving so many customers on flat rate days.All quite true. But why run a poll if you already know what you're going to do, regardless of the result and the preferences of the customers?
Why the poll? Well, what else would the women climb on? LOL, sorry, coudn't resist.
FrenchieAtlanti
10-14-12, 07:22
I went at this big party with 5 girls. The club is easy to fine. A lot of trafic around Frankfürt but I arrived near 18:30 (I expected to be there at 17:30 when they opened doors). First impression : A lot of men for a small place! During all the party, it was the problem. The club was near blowing. I think it's a good place for 30 guys (it's the size of a regular flat) , but we was more 70 people inside. I had the number 47 and I saw in the registrent book later, there was at the number 67.
However, it would be a very nice party if the temperature in the room could be less 30°. I staid 3 hours in the party. I leaved at 21h.
Five girls are there :
- Lilly : A very slim asian girl. She fucked all the time during the party. She was always full of sperm.
- Annina : Nice blond. 1,70 and very nice breasts. She only do BBJ this time. She fucked a little bit at the beginning of the party, when she was filmed, but I think it was painful. (she had another gangbang party last day and it could be more for this young girl). She sucked guys during more 1 hour when I was at the party and tok sperm in her mouth and on her body.
- AmyF : A big girl very antousiast and happy. She alternated fuck and animation. She went in the rooms to talk with guys, and inform of action in other room.
- Rosella : A nice MILF who arrived near 19:30. She could do NS at the end of the first set.
- Laura Teen : A nice little girl with big breasts. She was the star of the day. She took sperm in mouth and in pussy, swallow all, during all the party.
When I arrived, there was three girls in action in a room. Probably 40 guys in for 30 m2. It was impossible to approach Laura. Half guys are arround her. Every 3 mn, she took a load of sperm in a mouth or pussy. Lilly, was very busy, too. This two gils was very noisy. We could her they cry in all the stair.
The club is composed by two stairs : The ground floor whith changing room, bar, changing room and shower for girls, and a little room for action (15m2). A underground stair with shower for men, the main room for action and a little place for massage.
I think there was probably not more people, but a realy too small place for this type of big party.
The organisation is serious and there was everytime action with three girl during short pause of other girls.
I think I'll go again at a party of GB01, but with less girls (and less guys too). This type of party with an area like spermagames, it could be realy pleasant.
SwingerLover
10-14-12, 14:09
I went at this big party with 5 girls. The club is easy to fine. A lot of trafic around Frankfürt but I arrived near 18:30 (I expected to be there at 17:30 when they opened doors). First impression : A lot of men for a small place! During all the party, it was the problem. The club was near blowing. I think it's a good place for 30 guys (it's the size of a regular flat) , but we was more 70 people inside. I had the number 47 and I saw in the registrent book later, there was at the number 67.
However, it would be a very nice party if the temperature in the room could be less 30°. I staid 3 hours in the party. I leaved at 21h.Hi, Frenchie!
Thanks for serving as a guinea pig for a gb01-event. It's about time someone wrote about them on ISG.
Almost everything you described is exactly as I had expected it to be. Starting with your late arrival due to traffic. Partystart at 18:00 hours on a Friday in the Frankfurt area is the worst time of day they could have picked. If could have gone there, I would have tried to be there no later than 16:30 and then kill an hour in town before the club opened. Just to avoid traffic jams on the Autobahn.
I also expected the place to be overcrowded. Since I knew the building from visiting it for regular swingerparties before, I already wondered how more than 70 people would fit into there. I was told that at a previous party, there had been 80 guys there. No wonder it gets hot in there. For the sex action, it might even be arousing when everything gets really steamy and sweaty. The problem I expected was more like: How do all those guys get in and out of the rooms without climbing up on top of each other?
About the girls: Sad that Annina didn't fuck. So there were really only 4 women available for creampushing, weren't there? I neither know her, nor Rosella or Amy F. But the other ones are familiar. Lily is the same asian Lily I met at this misfortunate 'party' in Bornheim, where I didn't even get to fuck her. It seems that she fucked a lot more at this gb01-event. And Laura, who was unreachable for you? Well, what else is new? I have seen her ("met her" would be an exaduration) at Spermagames at three different parties, and I didn't get to even touch her just once, much less fuck her. Whenever she's advertised anywhere, I don't even count her in anymore, meaning I substract her from the number of women present, because I don't get to fuck her anyway. The only thing she's good for is to occupy two dozen guys, so it's less crowded around the other women.
I'm actually glad that I couldn't go there. Annina not fucking at all, Laura not reachable as always, Lily propably overcrowded too again, would have left me with only two women to fuck. I had more action there when this place was still "Partykreis Airport" at their regular swingerparties with way less people. Only difference is that those weren't bareback.
Those gb01 events could for sure use a bigger location, especially in an AO-party-wasteland like Frankfurt. No wonder that they are overcrowded, since they are the only AO-party-providers right now. Only a few private couples have recently started advertising for private AO parties in Frankfurt. I had posted them on the Calendar thread sometimes, when their ad was out early enough. Interestingly one of them had an AO gangbang simultaneously to this gb01 event. But I couldn't post that here (along with two other AO parties that Friday) because I learned about it too late. Would have definitely been less crowded, but with only one woman for the same kind of money.
I seriously doubt that it makes sense for me to go to the next gb01 event in Mörfelden on the 26th, even if I could go that day. With Eva, GGG-Manuela, AmelieO and Julia de Lucia there, it will for sure be as overcrowded again as the last times. Suddenly the Spermagames party on the 25th with only Amelie and Manuela becomes more appealing again. But on the 25th, I definitely can't go anywhere to party. So I'm looking forward to reports from somebody else.
FrenchieAtlanti
10-14-12, 15:36
Hi, Frenchie!
Thanks for serving as a guinea pig for a gb01-event. It's about time someone wrote about them on ISG.
Almost everything you described is exactly as I had expected it to be. Starting with your late arrival due to traffic. Partystart at 18:00 hours on a Friday in the Frankfurt area is the worst time of day they could have picked. If could have gone there, I would have tried to be there no later than 16:30 and then kill an hour in town before the club opened. Just to avoid traffic jams on the Autobahn.
I also expected the place to be overcrowded. Since I knew the building from visiting it for regular swingerparties before, I already wondered how more than 70 people would fit into there. I was told that at a previous party, there had been 80 guys there. No wonder it gets hot in there. For the sex action, it might even be arousing when everything gets really steamy and sweaty. The problem I expected was more like: How do all those guys get in and out of the rooms without climbing up on top of each other?
About the girls: Sad that Annina didn't fuck. So there were really only 4 women available for creampushing, weren't there? I neither know her, nor Rosella or Amy F. But the other ones are familiar. Lily is the same asian Lily I met at this misfortunate 'party' in Bornheim, where I didn't even get to fuck her. It seems that she fucked a lot more at this gb01-event. And Laura, who was unreachable for you? Well, what else is new? I have seen her ("met her" would be an exaduration) at Spermagames at three different parties, and I didn't get to even touch her just once, much less fuck her. Whenever she's advertised anywhere, I don't even count her in anymore, meaning I substract her from the number of women present, because I don't get to fuck her anyway. The only thing she's good for is to occupy two dozen guys, so it's less crowded around the other women.
I'm actually glad that I couldn't go there. Annina not fucking at all, Laura not reachable as always, Lily propably overcrowded too again, would have left me with only two women to fuck. I had more action there when this place was still "Partykreis Airport" at their regular swingerparties with way less people. Only difference is that those weren't bareback.
Those gb01 events could for sure use a bigger location, especially in an AO-party-wasteland like Frankfurt. No wonder that they are overcrowded, since they are the only AO-party-providers right now. Only a few private couples have recently started advertising for private AO parties in Frankfurt. I had posted them on the Calendar thread sometimes, when their ad was out early enough. Interestingly one of them had an AO gangbang simultaneously to this gb01 event. But I couldn't post that here (along with two other AO parties that Friday) because I learned about it too late. Would have definitely been less crowded, but with only one woman for the same kind of money.
I seriously doubt that it makes sense for me to go to the next gb01 event in Mörfelden on the 26th, even if I could go that day. With Eva, GGG-Manuela, AmelieO and Julia de Lucia there, it will for sure be as overcrowded again as the last times. Suddenly the Spermagames party on the 25th with only Amelie and Manuela becomes more appealing again. But on the 25th, I definitely can't go anywhere to party. So I'm looking forward to reports from somebody else.For GB parties, there is a level very sensitive for men / women / place. I went sometime at parties with less guys (for exemple at Dussedorf in August). It can't be a real GB in this case, and when there is too many people, it's difficult for action.
Last Friday, I could fuck Laura, Lily and Amy F and Annina could suck me. I must just wait for it, but I couldn't have BJ and fuck just after, because the number of guy who waited. It was like at Spermagames in September 2011, when the american pornstar canceled and there was more 100 guys for 3 women. Very difficult, be at the end of the evening, it could be simple. Maybe last Friday, it was more easy near 23h, but I must leave at 21h, because long way to go back home.
I'm right with you, one of the problem is canceling Barbackkreis + only one party for spermagames, there was more party near Frankfürt last year.
SwingerLover
10-14-12, 16:01
Last Friday, I could fuck Laura, Lily and Amy F and Annina could suck me. I must just wait for it, but I couldn't have BJ and fuck just after, because the number of guy who waited. It was like at Spermagames in September 2011, when the american pornstar canceled and there was more 100 guys for 3 women.Well, waiting around in line until the woman finally becomes available is not my idea of a good time. It has never been that big a problem for me at Spermagames, except with Laura of course. Speaking of Spermagames: I hope they get their act together soon. Still having advertised Eva for the 25th, when it's absolutely clear that she will not be there, doesn't fill me with confidence regarding their reliability.
And PLEASE, Frenchie, do NOT quote entire reports that can be founf just below your reply. It only fills up the forum needlessly. Just pick the parts that you are referring to and delete the rest from the quote before you upload the report!
FrenchieAtlanti
10-14-12, 17:38
And PLEASE, Frenchie, do NOT quote entire reports that can be founf just below your reply. It only fills up the forum needlessly. Just pick the parts that you are referring to and delete the rest from the quote before you upload the report!OK SwingerLover. I'll be carful next time.
- Lilly : A very slim asian girl. She fucked all the time during the party. She was always full of sperm.I suppose you can't ask for much more than that.
I was very excited when I saw the photo of the girls for this event as they all looked young and hot. Looks like too many others thought the same.
They do events at other venues like in Hamburg and Duren. Are these venues more spacious? Unfortunatelythese other venues are on weekdays rather than the Friday night if you were aiming to fit them into a weekend trip.
Also the website mentioned a delicious buffet and drinks. I guess that food was not uppermost in your mind when you were there but do they do alcoholic drinks like beer? I like my beer!
They advertised the party as AO / Safe so presumably you could fuck with a rubber if you didn't want to take the test? So the AO guys had bracelets round their wrist to identify them? Could lead to some confusion.
I was also not too sure as to some of the abbreviations that they used for some of the services that were possible. GV, AV and SC.
Plus I understand that you can become a premium member and get some money back through a reduced price entry at the event?
i was also not too sure as to some of the abbreviations that they used for some of the services that were possible. gv, av and sc.gv=geschlachtsverkehr=clasical sex.
av=analverkehr=a-level (greek sex)
ov=oralverkehr=oral sex.
ao=allesohne=without condom.
sc=? safe c?
btw, the party in duren (oct 17) is cancelled but a safe event with [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) maus and jacqueline x is planned now.
btw2, lilly was also on a spermastudio event. super! (and not with so many man).
FrenchieAtlanti
10-15-12, 20:52
I suppose you can't ask for much more than that.
I was very excited when I saw the photo of the girls for this event as they all looked young and hot. Looks like too many others thought the same.
They do events at other venues like in Hamburg and Duren. Are these venues more spacious? Unfortunatelythese other venues are on weekdays rather than the Friday night if you were aiming to fit them into a weekend trip.
Also the website mentioned a delicious buffet and drinks. I guess that food was not uppermost in your mind when you were there but do they do alcoholic drinks like beer? I like my beer!
They advertised the party as AO / Safe so presumably you could fuck with a rubber if you didn't want to take the test? So the AO guys had bracelets round their wrist to identify them? Could lead to some confusion.
I was also not too sure as to some of the abbreviations that they used for some of the services that were possible. GV, AV and SC.
Plus I understand that you can become a premium member and get some money back through a reduced price entry at the event?I come from France for the party, and I have 1000 km to drive. I must combinate pro meeting and party near same places. The best for me is dates in the week, but Friday is good, too; not Saturday, for exemple.
I drink only water, but I think they had beer. The food was like every parties like at Spermagames. No choice, but good.
I didn't see any guy with condom during this party. When I arrived, the guy ask me immediatly if I had a test or I need it. There was two guys to do tests.
I think one of girl did AV, but it was probably after I leaved.
Finaly, it was still a good party.
+++ Girls very active, nice girls, a realy wave of sperm, food and drink, perfect organisation.
- Too much people, place too small, guys of organisation too pro, trafic if you come by motorway.
I think the good format is 3 girls with 35 guys
SwingerLover
10-16-12, 16:36
They do events at other venues like in Hamburg and Duren. Are these venues more spacious? Unfortunatelythese other venues are on weekdays rather than the Friday night if you were aiming to fit them into a weekend trip.
But do they do alcoholic drinks like beer? I like my beer!
They advertised the party as AO / Safe so presumably you could fuck with a rubber if you didn't want to take the test? So the AO guys had bracelets round their wrist to identify them? Could lead to some confusion.
I was also not too sure as to some of the abbreviations that they used for some of the services that were possible. GV, AV and SC.
Plus I understand that you can become a premium member and get some money back through a reduced price entry at the event?
I think the good format is 3 girls with 35 guysI only know one other location that they have been to. That's Swingerclub Drüber & Drunter in Mönchengladbach, where I was last year for a Saskia-Farell-party. The building is bigger, although not that much. Three playgrounds upstairs, approximately the size of the three rooms upstairs at Spermagames. One big playground-room on the ground floor level, almost twice as big as the Spermagames-Disco-room with an 8-or-9-mattrass-size playground plus a gyn-chair. Bar and Bistro area twice as big as at LoveLounge and a little bigger than at SG, but with a seperate room for the Bistro.
LoveLounge usually has even liquor, so there's beer and champagne too. Can't say anything about gb01 at the other locations.
No confusion about the AO / Safe matter. According to website, you may use a rubber if you like, but you still have to take the test. Or bring one of your own. No exception! So no bracelets necessary. Or bracelets for everyone, like at Spermagames; I don't know that. Frenchie should.
Maxime already explained most abbreviations satisfactory. SC stands for SwingerClub. (And it's spelled 'Geschlechtsverkehr' for GV.)
As I understand it, you can register at their site and become a member. That takes off 5 to 10 Euros from the entrance fees of the events. Since membership appears to be free, it might be a good idea to register. I don't think there will be any spam mails, propably just a regular newsletter.
Frenchie: I don't think it needs to be 3 to 35. It might be preferable if the ratio does not exceed 1 to 12, but that could still get 5 to 60 like at your visit. If the girls are up to it, it might just work. The problem was that the location is too small for that many people. At LoveLounge 3 to 36 would be enough, but then they propably had to send too many guys away. For more guys, more women are in order; with 67 guys there should even have been at least 6 women. The problem that remains: The place is too small for an event like that.
And you still quoted Myrrh's entire report. Although it doesn't matter that much, because it wasn't that long.
SwingerLover
10-17-12, 17:49
Awful, bad, crap, disgusting, evil, foul, gross, hideous.
I might be able to use the entire alphabet to describe what I experienced (and not experienced) there today. New number 2 of my Blacklist, will never ever go back there again; even worse than Schneewittchen, MG-Hindenburgstraße und the worst parties in Kerpen combined!
More about this shit in the Krefeld AO thread tomorrow when I'm less angry. Right now I'd like a wrecking ball to tear this place down completely!
Dark Vader
10-17-12, 20:06
Awful, bad, crap, disgusting, evil, foul, gross, hideous.LOL! I wish you would say what you mean SW.
Awful, bad, crap, disgusting, evil, foul, gross, hideous.
More about this shit tomorrow when I'm less angry. Right now I'd like a wrecking ball to tear this place down completely!Apart from that, it was OK?
RedBull691
10-18-12, 11:42
Awful, bad, crap, disgusting, evil, foul, gross, hideous.
I might be able to use the entire alphabet to describe what I experienced (and not experienced) there today. New number 2 of my Blacklist, will never ever go back there again; even worse than Schneewittchen, MG-Hindenburgstraße und the worst parties in Kerpen combined!
More about this shit in the Krefeld AO thread tomorrow when I'm less angry. Right now I'd like a wrecking ball to tear this place down completely!I was there too swingerlover, Sorry didn't recognise you. I only went with 2 women. Didn't like the other 2, I agree I will never go back there, I would even pay more to get better quality girls. Another ao party disaster, Another 2 days left in germany. Hopefully get a good party before I go home on Friday,
SwingerLover
10-18-12, 14:23
Apart from that, it was OK?No, it wasn't.
LOL! I wish you would say what you mean SW.You can read it in the Krefeld AO thread.
SwingerLover
10-21-12, 14:25
I was there too swingerlover, Sorry didn't recognise you. I only went with 2 women. Didn't like the other 2, I agree I will never go back there, I would even pay more to get better quality girls. Another ao party disaster, Another 2 days left in germany. Hopefully get a good party before I go home on Friday,Since I believe that we have met before last year when you were at Oppumer 1 together with Wanking and Col Bog1, it's strange that I didn't recognize you either. Maybe I was already gone. I left at 13:50. So I would think that you arrived later, and it seems that it didn't get any better, nor that the 2 missing girls appeared. This was the second most fraudulent 'party' I have ever been to, right behind the rip-off at my last visit to Hindenburgstraße 218 in Mönchengladbach.
Those have moved down one floor, they are now on the first floor of the building, no longer on the second! But it's still the same X00ߧ#XXXpffft (to avoid the word bitches) than before. (Since last Wednesday now only #5 of my Blacklist.)
RedBull691
10-21-12, 15:11
Since I believe that we have met before last year when you were at Oppumer 1 together with Wanking and Col Bog1, it's strange that I didn't recognize you either. Maybe I was already gone. I left at 13:50. So I would think that you arrived later, and it seems that it didn't get any better, nor that the 2 missing girls appeared. This was the second most fraudulent 'party' I have ever been to, right behind the rip-off at my last visit to Hindenburgstraße 218 in Mönchengladbach.
Those have moved down one floor, they are now on the first floor of the building, no longer on the second! But it's still the same X00ߧ#XXXpffft (to avoid the word bitches) than before. (Since last Wednesday now only #5 of my Blacklist.) Hi SW, I think I must have missed you as I didn't get there till after 15. 00. I really won't be going back there again, Seems that the quality, service is not so good nowadays as it was a few years ago. I also went on my last trip to hindenburgstr 218 moencheongladbach party last trip. Only 1 girl thought was good there, I would rather pay more for better quality than pay for some crap girls and service. However my 3 day trip was not one of my best trips but I suppose it depends what events etc are on when you are there. I did however manage to meet up with my regular girl eva in krefeld on my last day, Fantastic as usual. Only wished I found her new address days earlier. 10/10. Also had a bit of fun with trixie of team tabulous on Thursday, very good, sexy blonde girl. Arrived at tabulos 4 girls on but after I got changed I noticed that 1 left and eva was busy in kitchen all time I was there. 1 romaniain girl, dark skinned. Not my type. So opted for trixie unfortunetly she dosnt do ao, but good BBBJ. And covered sex. Very enthusiastic.
SwingerLover
10-25-12, 12:20
Hi SW, I think I must have missed you as I didn't get there till after 15. 00. I really won't be going back there again, Seems that the quality, service is not so good nowadays as it was a few years ago. I also went on my last trip to hindenburgstr 218 moencheongladbach party last trip. Only 1 girl thought was good there, I would rather pay more for better quality than pay for some crap girls and service. However my 3 day trip was not one of my best trips but I suppose it depends what events etc are on when you are there. I did however manage to meet up with my regular girl eva in krefeld on my last day, Fantastic as usual. Only wished I found her new address days earlier. 10/10. Also had a bit of fun with trixie of team tabulous on Thursday, very good, sexy blonde girl. Arrived at tabulos 4 girls on but after I got changed I noticed that 1 left and eva was busy in kitchen all time I was there. 1 romaniain girl, dark skinned. Not my type. So opted for trixie unfortunetly she dosnt do ao, but good BBBJ. And covered sex. Very enthusiastic.By 15:00, I was long gone! And I won't go back to this adress either. But why you had to try Hindenburgstraße 218 in MG again is beyond me. I've told time and time again, that this place is no good! It is still #5 of my Blacklist, despite having been overtaken by Hülser Straße 109.
I reckon this "team tabulous" is Eva-Freundin in MG-Odenkirchen, Am Schomm 7, right? I've read before that Trixie doesn't do AO. But do the others still do AO? I guess you must have the most recent knowledge of that, that's why I'm asking this question again. Tomorrow they have an FKK-flatrateparty! Hopefully AO!
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Buster Hymen
10-26-12, 23:41
I have mongered quite extensively in Europe over the last 15-20 years, don't get there too often these days, maybe 2-3 times a year. The last couple of years I have mainly gone just to FKK clubs, since the red light houses tend to be ripoff joints for the most part. And the Netherlands prive huises used to be my favorite places to go maybe 15 years ago, but you cannot find a Dutch girl there anymore, just like it is hard to find German girls in many of the clubs in Germany. I have always been a practitioner of safe sex, so the whole AO thing has had me intrigued. I decided to throw caution to the wind and try it out. You only live once.
I flew into Frankfurt, and I normally avoid going out for "entertainment" the first day I arrive because I am just too tired to enjoy it. But I only had one free day to expend, so after I got the car I was on my way.
I enjoyed a recent review of Club Angelique, and decided this would be my place to go. I arrived into Viersen, and was surprised on how non-descript both the town and the location of the club were. If you didn't have the exact address, you might not easily find the place, as it is in a small town, and only a door right next to a casino. As you arrive thru the door, you climb up maybe three flights of stair to a really small waiting area.
I guess I somewhat expected more of a FKK sort of place, but it wasn't. It was basically a *****house. On the day I visited, I was the only one there. They did a line up, there were 6 girls, all Romanian, all were fuckable, but since I prefer spinners and don't like false advertising, it really came down to one. There was a cute spinner, maybe 19 years old, seemed a bit nervous. Her name was Katja, which must be a German adopted name as it didn't seem Romanian to me. When I chose her, the hostess told me that she didn't speak either German or English. At all. So no big deal, as I wasn't too keen on an in-depth conversation anyway, but it would have been nice for some communication.
One clarification to the earlier post. The pricing was accurate, but you cannot come inside with the 20 minute rate, you must choose 30 minutes for coming inside. So I went with 30 minutes.
She took me to one of the VIP rooms, really large, big hot tub / shower in it. I took a quick shower as I was a bit gamey from the long flight, and got down to business. Like the better FKK places, this girl was somewhat shy, but immediately became very GFE with DFK. I got her onto the bed and began to warm up her naughty bits, and she really was getting into it, got very wet. I didn't bother with BJ and went straight to the main show. She was really tight, and I was so excited from the whole thing, so I came in less than 5 minutes. By this time, I had wished I had gone for a longer time.
Since I was really tired from the plane, I knew that it would make it difficult for me to come twice without a very long rest period between. We fucked for maybe another 5 minutes after the first time, but I knew I wouldn't come again, so decided to call it quits for the day.
Anyway, it was a great experience. I felt like I was back in my teen years, fucking a beautiful hot young teenager with no protection whatsoever. And no worries about any creating any children, since I was fixed many years ago. Would I do it again? Probably, but I wouldn't on my first day. I would get rested up and acclimated to the time zone, and go there for a few hours, with several girls.
SwingerLover
10-27-12, 17:29
http://fkk-arabella.com
The website mentions some other deal about 1 x 60 euro. 2 x 90 euro and 3 x 110 euro but the website seems to be out of date because this was not mentioned to me.The former price structure quoted above is back on, along with free entry.
The former price structure quoted above is back on, along with free entry.Hi SwiLo, I presume you rang them up to check or heard this by word of mouth?
The website is unchanged from when I visited about a month ago and was wrong then because they did not mention the pricing structure to me of free entry and then purchase tickets in advance depending on how many goes you wanted.
They have in the past announced changes in the frier cafe website http://www.freiercafe.com/archive/index.php/t-19804.html But they have not updated this since May of this year.
This club does have a reputation in the past for changing its pricing structure every now and then.
The pricing structure of entry for 25 euros and then 30 euros per session works out cheaper if you have multiple sessions. Also, it is much easier to decide as you go along whether you want another session rather than paying for a few sessions up front.
The pricing structure of entry for 25 euros and then 30 euros per session works out cheaper if you have multiple sessions. Also, it is much easier to decide as you go along whether you want another session rather than paying for a few sessions up front.
They suggest that:
"Halbe Stunde.
Alle Extras inclusive.
30€"
Sounds unrealistic.
What is inclusive is 30 Euros? AO? Cum in pussy? CIM? Anal?
SwingerLover
10-28-12, 15:26
Hi SwiLo, I presume you rang them up to check or heard this by word of mouth?
The website is unchanged from when I visited about a month agoThe website had changed between then and now. When I first checked it a little while after your report, it had the price structure like when you were there. Now it's back to the other price structure. Apparently they do switch between those two options, but are a bit lazy in updating the website.
Jymondor. Where do you get the "30 Euros" from? According to website, half an hour costs 60 Euros, 2 half-hour-sessions cost 90, 3 cost 110; that excludes foreplay on the couch and the 30 minutes start when entering the playing-room. (Or is the "30 Euro price" from the other price structure, where you had to pay an additional 25 Euros for entrance?)
What's offered can be seen on the "Unsere Girls"-part of the website. How realistic it is I can't say never having been there, but from what I'm told, it seems to be as advertised. So even 30 minutes of bareback anal with spritzing into the mouth should be possible with those who have "Keine Tabus".
They suggest that:
"Halbe Stunde.
Alle Extras inclusive.
30€"
Sounds unrealistic.
What is inclusive is 30 Euros? AO? Cum in pussy? CIM? Anal?When I visited about a month or so ago on a Sunday, paid my 25€ entrance and 30€ per girl session, I got full sex without a condom including creampie without being asked for any extra money for any 'extra' service (as you will be at places like Club Angelique or La Luna).
The club owners on it's website and in forums like frier cafe proudly boasts that if it states that a girls does something, be that anal or no taboos whatsoever, then you can hold her to it or else complain to management.
So if she says 'no taboos' then presumably that means you can ask her to drink your [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) and eat creampie from her own ass because she is duty bound to obey.
SwingerLover
11-04-12, 21:00
Strange. She posted an ad on Fickanzeigen and Fickreklame for today from 17-19:00 when she would be in the EGO-sexshop porntheatre in Oberhonnefeld near Neuwied. But she only wanted to blow dicks and swallow the juice; fucking was again not mentioned. I wonder what that's all about. I have seen no ads from her where she wanted to get FUCKED since she was at Spermagames in February. Only her newsletter about her trip to France in the summer mentioned that she would be available around the clock, everything else was only BBBJs with swallowing and Bukkake. Has anybody fucked her in the past 8 months? Or any info about why she doesn't fuck anymore?
SwingerLover
11-04-12, 21:25
Sadly, I received a mail that they won't organize any more parties until further notice!
Personal and professional reasons were mentioned, but also that they are fed up with taking the time and effort and then have to cancel every 2nd party, as it has been since March. I can sympathize with that. And the party last WED, the 31st, had topped it all off: Only 16 guys had registered and of those 16 only 9 showed up. I can imagine that the team doesn't want to take a loss with the parties, which with only 9 guys was propably the case. So I can completely understand that they are fed up right now. Sad for us. But even I could go to only every other party that wasn't cancelled since June, because the timing wasn't right for me. Maybe doing the parties on another weekday, like Friday, would help. Anyway, I don't expect anything from them for the rest of the year. Here's a bit of the history which led to their frustration:
May or June: I recall posting that a party with Sabine got cancelled, but don't know the date anymore.
June 6th: Great party where I was and reported about.
July 4th: First, one woman cancelled and they got a replacement. Then the second one cancelled. Then the replacement wasn't available on the day of the party, E-Mail said due to her having gotten her mensies. So the party got cancelled completely at short notice and they called it a summer break when they didn't do anything for weeks.
August 8th: That party happened, but I couldn't go.
September 19th: That was the party with Schokobebe Vicky I reported about.
October 10th: Party got cancelled, propably too few registrations. I couldn't have gone there anyway.
October 31st: Another badly timed one for me. Result see above.
Hopefully they'll pick it up again next year and with better luck and more reliable people.
Sadly, I received a mail that they won't organize any more parties until further notice!
Personal and professional reasons were mentionedProfessional reasons? Doesn't sound like they were too professional to start with.
Friday GB01 Rodigallé 111.
Oh well, I've been looking forward to some good AO action for a while, so my expectations of this event was probably higher than normally. It was quite easy to find the house as I took a taxi, but got off 50 meters from the club. I've been ripped off too many times by taxidrivers going to FKK's or sexclubs. I guess taxidrivers assume that you have a lot of money when you go to sexclubs. So I said I was a student going to the university nearby. I got the fare reduced by 5 euro instead LOL.
Paid the guy in the reception and off to the locker room. Like all clubs in Germany, you get towels and a key to the locker. Got undressed and went for the test. A huge line of guys had built up and I thought it would take ages. The event manager came in to the bar room and held an information meeting before the action began. He was very 'aggressive' in his approach and sounded like a military. He presented the girls of the night. Sarah Ann, Mia, Nina, Cindy plus 2 swinger girls. One of the swinger girls was really nice. The other one was quite big, but cute face.
Once the test was done I was ready for some action. Sarah Ann and Mia * sneaked away from the bar and the down to the basement. A tail of men followed them and the room filled up completely. It was almost hard to get a glimpse of the action. I wanted to dive in, BUT two guys were hovering around and filming the scene. I was not informed about this. I held back. I didn't want my face to be spread around the internet. I tried to ask the guys what the video was for but none of them spoke English. So the first hour I was in a corner, staring at the guys delivering the goods one after another. I was furious and jelous.
Then a guy said, they only film from the belly and below. No faces will be filmed. How could I know? The same second the filming guys took a break, I joined. Had a nice session with Mia, only covered though. Before my first spritzen, I managed to get some action with Sarah Ann. She was quite drenched at this point but I gave a shit about that. I just wanted some AO muchi. I took her missionary for a quite long time. I was really close to come all the time, but held myself. Pulled out and took 5 minutes break. Swapped to Mia * again. She was drenched in cum and had cocks in her mouth and pussy. I managed to join and she gave me a horny BBBJ. I shot a huge load over her face and mouth. I loved that she refused to wipe the cum off her face. True pornostyle. I took a shower and went for the buffé. Really crappy food compared to Erlebniswohnung and FKK's. I just ate a little bit. Had a drink and looked around for more action. On the top floor, Nina was going wild with a bunch of men. By this time I guess most of them had come recently so they were only watching. I managed to join immediately. Nina has a beautiful face, dark skin, dark hair, but a little bit on the chubby side.
I don't mind chubby girls, but my dick looks smaller when I fuck them and also it's harder to reach the pussy from other postions than mish and doggy.
I pounded her as good as I could, but she was fondling around with her legs and changed positions and streched her legs etc. I couldn't get a good rythm. Some girls know how to fuck, some don't. I gave up after a while.
The girls took a long pause for washing and changing lingerie. I almost fell asleep watching porno in the bar. The crowd dissapeared all of a sudden and I presumed that it was time for action again. I went down to the basement and Cindy was just about to get banged. Her dude was there to control the action. Annoying to be honest. She started to blow 2 guys and then after her dude lubed and warmed her up, another guy took her doggy. She got wilder and wilder step by step and after about 10 minutes of banging, she came. A fountain orgasm and soaked the whole freakin room. Cindy has a pretty nice body from hips and down. Above that she's too skinny. After watching her with some guys I managed to join and get a blowjob while another guy took her doggy. She was too wild and hard with my cock. She hurt me and I got bruised.
I left. Hovered around and found that Sara and Mia was in another room. In a cage with about 10 men around. They sucked like crazy. It was pretty fun to watch, but also boring after a while. I wanted AO pussy. Not just blowjobs. Sara sucked me through the cage but then again that freakin camera showed up again. I left and had a coffee. Took a loong break and waited for the girls to enter the room instead. I had a chance to fuck Sara again and this time pumped until I came. Shot a the load on her belly and then put my sperm covered cock inside her again for a few minutes. A heavenly orgasm.
Took another break and thought I was done for the night. Now the crowd started to losen up. Men left one after another. The last session of the night was on the top floor. The guys were just standing there watching like monkeys. I got Mia * for myself. Shagged away and finished with COF and CIM. She craved for more sperm and dicks but no one could deliver.
The night was over.
To summarize this event. I'm pretty impressed how professionally the whole event was set up. GB01 is apparently a settled concept and is well known among the german hobbyists. The girls are treated like moviestars and always get an applause during presentation. Branded t-shirts, branded dvd's and merchendise were all over the place.
In terms of sex compared to my previous experiences. Nah, I was far from satisfied after this night. 90% of the time I was just trying to join or standing beside the action. It was too crowded and few girls. I love the AO feeling, but when the girls are busy all the time, the fantasy fade quite immediately. The pleasure of AO is easy access. Now a hord of men to reach a pussy is a bigger hurdle than putting a condom on the dick.
At the moment, I've lost my spark for AO until something better shows up. Maybe limitation of men or more girls on the events. I like when the clubs allow swinger couples but it's also frustrating. One of the girls was really sexy and one time she was getting nailed by her dude just a decimeter from me. I wanted to join but they didn't allow anyone to join. That's just annoying.
These events are not for shy or picky people. You have to help yourself constantly. If you like bukkake, you would enjoy GB01 partys. If you want a lot of pussy, then it can be frustrating. Expect smelling sperm from the girls breath when you do mish, expect to dip your cock in litres of cum, expect to get cumshots over you and expect extreme sex. There are golden moments, but the overall experience is not so impressive IMHO.
For some reason I didn't like the atmosphere. It wasn't that friendly and easy going for some reason. No jokes, no talking and nothing fun inbetween sessions. No one spoke English and only caucasians. I liked Spermagames for example where I met people from all over the world. We had a good chat inbetween sessions and the staff was very eager to make foreigners feel safe. For those who haven't tried yet. It is quite intimidating to look different, speak another language and have sex in front of 30 german guys. Any sign of friendship during the night is well appreciated.
There were some downsides about the club as well. The sauna was broken, the towels too small, crappy food, very dark rooms and very cold.
Still my favorite place is Erlebniswohnung were you get action whenever you want. Here the food is great, a good selection of young sexy girls, many do CIM, staff is very friendly. Still the apartment is quite small, but never over crowded. The only thing missing is AO.
Saturday Club Optasia.
I planned to explore Hamburg on Saturday, but I was not satisfied from the day before. Had a few options. Either FKK or a walk up. None of them felt really appealing so I lurked the forum and read about the flatrate club Optasia. I'm very much into the good looking Romanian and bulgarian girls. On the other hand the ugly ones are worse than ugly western european girls. I took the S-bahn to the nearest station of the club. Walked for 10 minutes and buzzed the doorbell. I was 15 minutes too early but they let me in. This place was huge. Quite fresh and yihaaa the sauna was working here. After a 10 minutes sauna and shower I went to the bar area to check out the line-up. Hmm quite dissapointing at the first glimpse. I expected FKK quality. Very young girls, but dressed like it was a pyjamas party. All of them had their hair in two ponytails on the side like pippi longstocking and pink girly tops and hot pants. No high heels, instead slippers? Wierd and not very sexy to be honest. They all looked short an chubby. There were about 15 girls and 4 guys including me. I chatted around for 15 minutes with the girls and picked a young bulgarian girl. Pretty face and ok body. Standard sex with a short BBBJ. Back to the bar, picked up another girl and then the same procedure. Back to the bar and picked up another similar girl and then the same procedure. Took a pause and had a drink. One of the girls suggested whirlpool and we were like 3 couples going. We had a lot of fun there. 'My girl' was very fun and bubbly. She was obviously attracted to me and glued to me all the time. Some fondling and wanking in the pool. She even asked the manager if it was ok to have sex with me in the relax area, but no no.
Then we had a nice sauna together the six of us. Very nice.
My girl lost her ear rings and was upset and dissapeared for a while. Meanwhile I got attacked by two young romanians. They did everything to tease and make me horny. The blonde and slim girl made it easy for me. Off we went to the kino and I undressed her. Gave her a nice full body massage and she almost fell asleep. Then she said. Let's play otherwise I will fall asleep. We had a nice a long session. GFE and lots of compliments. She said that she wanted to take me home. I love those comments. It's a part of the game but it makes me grow. Girls here doesn't kiss unfortunately, but this one couldn't not held back. She couldn't kiss on the lips as she had a boyfriend, but she kissed me allover the body. That made me come hard.
3 hours of intensive fucking for 120 euros. 4 girls and some fun inbetween. In terms of sex, they all do BBBJ and various positions. No DFK and CIM. Well it's not the best, but still fun.
Now I'm happy.
SwingerLover
11-04-12, 23:01
Professional reasons? Doesn't sound like they were too professional to start with.Professional meaning job-related. And I believe I wrote several times that this is a private group which is semi-pro at best, and that only from doing this for years.
after about 10 minutes of banging, she came. A fountain orgasm and soaked the whole freakin room.
Expect smelling sperm from the girls breath when you do mish, expect to dip your cock in litres of cum, expect to get cumshots over youYou trying to put us off AO or what, LOL.
Wonderfully evocative description of the GB01 event, it was almost like being there.
In the case of Cindy's messy orgasm in particular I felt like I was just a little too close for comfort.
Great report!
SwingerLover
11-04-12, 23:32
I guess taxidrivers assume that you have a lot of money when you go to sexclubs. So I said I was a student going to the university nearby. I got the fare reduced by 5 euro instead LOL.
At the moment, I've lost my spark for AO until something better shows up. Maybe limitation of men or more girls on the events. I like when the clubs allow swinger couples but it's also frustrating. One of the girls was really sexy and one time she was getting nailed by her dude just a decimeter from me. I wanted to join but they didn't allow anyone to join. That's just annoying.Hahaha, I like the stunt you pulled with the taxidriver. Well, if they think they can milk sextravellers, then they deserve to get hoaxed themselves.
So it seems that gb01 events are overcrowded everywhere, not only in Mörfelden. As much as I enjoy some heavy duty groupfuck action, if it's so crowded that you can't get anywhere near the action, then it's no use. Reminds me of Laura and Gangbang-Natascha at Spermagames. At least there were other women there with less rush hour traffic. Sad that you've lost your spark for AO over this. Maybe a trip to Eva-Freundin might help. Or a Spermagames party at the new location in Karlsruhe.
Sounds to me as if MiaBitch was the best one there, despite only rubberfucking. Reminds me a bit of Eva-Freundin, where the wildest one, Trixi, was also a condoms-only girl. And here, there will be no swinger couples who don't want to swing at all!
You're right, they are annoying! Why the fuck do they even go to the clubs or a groupsex orgy like gb01 (here for free no less) if they don't even want to swing? People like that are the reason why I stopped going to swingerclubs. Having a free or cheap evening at the expense of the single guys, who then get shunned the entire evening for having payed for everything. Bah, pfui! No wonder Swingerclubs have to close down left and right. Once the single guys are all chased away by those couples, the club has to shut down. Compared to those couples, every streetworker who delivers what she agreed on is a noble person!
Hope to meet you soon at a better place! I'm still planning for MM and Sexy-Susi in Saarbrücken on the 21st and at least one Eva-Freundin party, propably on the 17th. For the end of the month I'm not sure yet: Spermagames on the 29th or Eva on the 30th. If you want to go to any of these, let me know. If we go to the same ones, I can pick you up at Hahn airport and give you a ride.
You trying to put us off AO or what, LOL.
Wonderfully evocative description of the GB01 event, it was almost like being there.
In the case of Cindy's messy orgasm in particular I felt like I was just a little too close for comfort.
Great report!Thanks matey.
Hahaha no, those criterias are one of the reasons I like the AO gangbangs or gangbangs in general. I happen to like the spermy / messy parts of the gangbangs especially when it's on the girls' face. I'm not the biggest fan of schlammswieben (or what it's called). Because it makes the pussy too slippery.
Even though I'm as straight as an airport landing strip, I have to admit, I cum easier when I shag a girl if she has one or two dicks in her mouth. The visual pleasure enhance the physical sensation. Thanks guys!
If I have trouble coming I just wait for a guy to shoot his load on the girls face and kapaoooww I cum in a flash. It's like watching porno really up close.
Hmmm what else, yeah Sarah was cowgirling an older fellow while another guy was getting a blowjob (staff member who also filmed his own blowjob). Then he came massive and tried to land it on her face. As her face was vertical the cum dripped down on the fellow below and everything landed on his belly and chest.
Oh another detail. We were two guys getting sucked by Mia. Then he shot his load over to my side and it landed on my dick. I just showed it in her mouth and she licked it off with pleasure.
Cindy was acting like she was obsessed, a little bit too much for my taste. I thought she was going to rip my dick of my body.
Hahaha, I like the stunt you pulled with the taxidriver. Well, if they think they can milk sextravellers, then they deserve to get hoaxed themselves.
So it seems that gb01 events are overcrowded everywhere, not only in Mörfelden. As much as I enjoy some heavy duty groupfuck action, if it's so crowded that you can't get anywhere near the action, then it's no use. Reminds me of Laura and Gangbang-Natascha at Spermagames. At least there were other women there with less rush hour traffic. Sad that you've lost your spark for AO over this. Maybe a trip to Eva-Freundin might help. Or a Spermagames party at the new location in Karlsruhe.
Sounds to me as if MiaBitch was the best one there, despite only rubberfucking. Reminds me a bit of Eva-Freundin, where the wildest one, Trixi, was also a condoms-only girl. And here, there will be no swinger couples who don't want to swing at all!
You're right, they are annoying! Why the fuck do they even go to the clubs or a groupsex orgy like gb01 (here for free no less) if they don't even want to swing? People like that are the reason why I stopped going to swingerclubs. Having a free or cheap evening at the expense of the single guys, who then get shunned the entire evening for having payed for everything. Bah, pfui! No wonder Swingerclubs have to close down left and right. Once the single guys are all chased away by those couples, the club has to shut down. Compared to those couples, every streetworker who delivers what she agreed on is a noble person!
Hope to meet you soon at a better place! I'm still planning for MM and Sexy-Susi in Saarbrücken on the 21st and at least one Eva-Freundin party, propably on the 17th. For the end of the month I'm not sure yet: Spermagames on the 29th or Eva on the 30th. If you want to go to any of these, let me know. If we go to the same ones, I can pick you up at Hahn airport and give you a ride.Haha I just try to get my money back from my last visit in Nice in France. I pulled a gorgeous Croatian girl from the street and took a taxi to the hotel 5 minutes from the pick up point. The taxidriver asked for 60 euros! I didn't want to argue or start a scene. Just paid and focused on the girl instead.
The spark will come back, I'm sure.
Mia was the star of the evening. I love the way she talks dirty and always crave for cocks and sperm. Oh, once a guy came from fucking her muchi and pulled his condom off. She said give it to me. Then she squeezed the cum out of the condom into her mouth and smeared it out on her face and tits. You should have seen her face after the first 30 minutes of the evening. It was completely covered with cum. I like.
Sarah was ok, but quite boring. She was only providing and not really acting.
Yeah, there were some magic moments, but it was hard to get some action. I could have had more pussy if it wasn't for that bloody video camera. In a better world, I would have been a pornstar, but in this one, I prefer to be frequent visitor of pornhub. Com instead.
Oh, I forgot to mention in previous post, but one guy and I was getting blown by Cindy at the same time. He was in a wierd position and had to hold his hand on my leg. Haha when he realized where the hand was, he removed it and looked at me. I just nodded "it's ok dude". Then he put it back haha. Gangbangs are not for homophobic people.
SwingerLover
11-16-12, 18:45
At the AO-party in Krefeld yesterday (report in the Krefeld AO thread) us guys talked some about other locations as usual during the breaks. Naturally Hindenburgstraße 218 in Mönchengladbach came up again, as usual with almost nothing but complaints. Except for one of the newer girls who seemed to be okay. But the latest news was that they seem to have advertised for two AO-parties in a row, and when the guys showed up they were told that there wasn't no party not, but that they could stay for 100 Euros an hour. Wink, wink, wink! So they have taken the cheating to a new level. By now anybody should know better than to go there.
What also came up was the Holiday Cheat house at Hülser Straße 109. One of the guys was there last week on Tuesday, the 6th. Aside from the heating having worked it must have been even worse than at my visit. No AO at all, despite being advertised. Hordes of guys who all felt defrauded and didn't stay very long. I guess they don't read ISG, and on german forums the word might not have been out yet. But at the rate they seem to cheat, word of mouth should be sufficient to send them into bancrupcy before the year is over. And even if there are some of the same girls working there as in the AO-apertments with the parties, this is NOT the same guy who manages them! Eko, the slim guy with the long black hair, is a decent guy and tries to hold good parties. Those who cheat at Hülser Straße are others, who only use some of the same girls. And Frau Dulent Denise has left Germany. Hopefully for good.
Schneewittchen in Viersen came up too. After it had gotten better a few months back, they now seem to be back to the old shittyness, as one guy told me. And realx-today received only bad comments too again. But there's no AO at both places anymore anyway.
I told about all my mishaps in Bornheim at those fashion-privatparties. Also spoke a bit about past Spermagames experiences and that they moved to Karlsruhe, but naturally that wasn't very interesting for those guys in Krefeld since it's too far away for them anyway.
Regarding other okay and good locations outside of Krefeld, CA in Gelsenkirchen was considered mediocre, some guys had good words for Laluna in Moers, especially about their AO gangbangs, which are missing for some months now. And everybody talked about one place which they all recommended: Zhuzha in Ratingen. Although that doesn't belong in this thread, because Zhuzha is a militant rubberuser, I just have to mention it, because this place really seems to be an event in itself.
That's the update on the latest gossip.
But the latest news was that they seem to have advertised for two AO-parties in a row, and when the guys showed up they were told that there wasn't no party not, but that they could stay for 100 Euros an hour. Wink, wink, wink! So they have taken the cheating to a new level. By now anybody should know better than to go there.The organisers know the way that the male mind works. If you have travelled a long way to get there, you are horny as fcuk because you have been anticipating this event and there are no other options nearby. Most guys will never come again but there will always be some who will say 'Well, I am here now'.
AColonizer
11-16-12, 21:32
Everybody knows that. I asked about this situation some months ago. Somebody replied that is a fraud and men could phone police. But I think, in that situation, the best solution is "break bones to managers and girls", each of them have plotted against customers, and police support that fraud. Unfortunately, customers are not smart men and managers know that, in fact the same fraud is repeating dozens and dozens times. It is stupid people grumble here and, the same time, they do nothing to "terminate" those frauds.
QUOTE=Myrrh; 1349729]The organisers know the way that the male mind works. If you have travelled a long way to get there, you are horny as fcuk because you have been anticipating this event and there are no other options nearby. Most guys will never come again but there will always be some who will say 'Well, I am here now'.[/QUOTE]
SwingerLover
11-19-12, 13:59
AColonizer is right when he says that it's stupid to grumble about fraud and then do nothing to prevent it from happening again. At the very least one could write on whatever forum about the fraud, in order to warn others. Like I did with Schneewittchen and relax-today (And those weren't even fraudulent but just extremely lousy.) and still do with Hülser Straße 109 in Krefeld and Hindenburgstraße 218 in Mönchengladbach. About those places is usually talked about at nearly every AO-party in NRW I've been to, and the result is always the same: Stay away! But when the same people go back there again only to be defrauded again and if what's written on forum by several guys is ignored, then there's no escape from the fraud and they will keep doing it simply because they can.
Another problem is that the frauds need to deal with their victims only one by one. If five defrauded guys would stand up to them together, demanding their money back with threatening some faceslapping or worse, the fraud would stop. If one single guy would do that, the frauds would propably call the police on him and he would have no witnesses to back him up.
But the least thing anyone who got defrauded could do is to finger those who defrauded him on any forum, so others won't fall into the same trap.
And what goes around comes around, there will always be some opportunity for revenge. Like this: When Sexynatalie had announced via ads and newsletter that she would do an AO gangbang at Schneewittchen, I send her a reply and recommended that she should stay away from that place because it has such a bad reputation which then might reflect on her. I also told her about what happened to me there. Later I learned that others, mostly some of her paying members, had given her similar advice. She reacted accordingly and canceled her Schneewittchen-gangbang, despite that it had already been advertised!
THAT'S how to deal with frauds and places where the women have nothing but insulting attitudes towards their guests!
Neurosynth
11-19-12, 23:43
She reacted accordingly and canceled her Schneewittchen-gangbang, despite that it had already been advertised!
THAT'S how to deal with frauds and places where the women have nothing but insulting attitudes towards their guests!I agree 100. Excellent job SwingerLover!
Guys, do you know how it works in general with schnelltests. How do the organizers get hold of these tests and who has the authority to take them on people?
I thought for example clubs like La Luna or the Krefeld girls should have it for their own and for the customers sake. If it's a simple thing to get, why not have it?
Also, if I would like to arrange a private GB in a hotel with friends and "hire" a girl who requires that participants take a test?
Does anyone know?
Cheers
SwingerLover
11-20-12, 15:42
Guys, do you know how it works in general with schnelltests. How do the organizers get hold of these tests and who has the authority to take them on people?I guess those tests can be ordered from the manufacturers or some suppliers, even on the internet. About the "authority", meaning legal issue, I believe that there's a grey zone here. Originally those tests were invented to give medical workers a quick test, I don't think anybody imagined that they would be used by the dozens for bareback sex parties.
Gang-Bang-Party-Studio in Dortmund demands HIV-tests for AO, but refuses Schnelltests completely because of the unclear legal situation. Others say that any kind of medical worker must do the tests. Sandra-Privat had stopped doing Schnelltests for legal reasons, but allowed the guys to take their own tests themselves. Others seem to not care about legal issues and do them themselves anyhow.
And Schnelltests in Krefeld? They don't even manage to get new toilet seats, I don't think they will spend one cent on test equipment. That is if they even know those tests exist.
Swingerlover, do you know any HIV test location issuing certificate around Krefeld, Mochenglabach, or Dusseldorf? Thanks.
SwingerLover
11-20-12, 17:13
Swingerlover, do you know any HIV test location issuing certificate around Krefeld, Mochenglabach, or Dusseldorf? Thanks.Http://gang-bang-party.com/com/2012/01/23/laborarzte
www.creampie-party.de/die-party-s/labore/
I don't think anybody imagined that they would be used by the dozens for bareback sex parties.And Schnelltests in Krefeld? They don't even manage to get new toilet seats.LOL funny.
I really like the dirtyness of Krefeld partys. It feels more genuine, but it would be great with some schnelltests. For me it makes a little bit sense to take those tests.
Not sure where the Arabella and Villa Venus threads are, but although they are FKK Clubs they are also AO venues so I put the reports here.
I was visiting NRW during a big Messe in Dusseldorf so had to stay in Cologne to get an affordable hotel. This caused a bit of a problem with transport as I usually use a hotel in the Dusseldorf area which provides a free travel card as part of the cost. Also, Cologne is a bit further from my chosen playgrounds than Dusseldorf would be, to say nothing of being in a different transport zone (VRS vs. VRR).
Anyway, being free to play on Tuesday I purchased a Schoner Tag Ticket NRW for €27 which covered all public transport for the day throughout NRW and allowed me to get a train to Bochum from Cologne, then onto the tram 302 (Direction Buer, Gelsenkirchen) to the Lohreiderstrasse stop. From there Arabella is a 5 minute walk at Lohreiderstrasse 63.
Arabella is one of several clubs that appear to be part of a group and all provide similar business models. Arabella, Grimberg, Villa Venus and another one in Iserslohn I believe.
You press the bell on the outer gate, are buzzed in and the inner door is opened by a naked woman welcoming you in. She gives you two towels and escorts you to the reception bar.
This club is small and a bit frayed around the edges, but I like it. Facilities are just OK with the showers not particularly good, and not much to do between sessions apart from a small sauna close to reception. Soft drinks and coffee are provided from dispensers on the bar. Food is limited to snacks such as sausage, bread, cheese, fruit, cake, etc. There is an outside area for relaxing in summertime.
They now have pictures of the girls at the reception / bar with descriptions of services provided (Keine Tabus i.e. AO, FT i.e. CIM, Schlucken i.e. Swallows, etc). Not all girls provide all services so it is recommended to check before going to a room if you want something specific. It's a bit difficult to recognise the girls from the photos, but the names are on the pics and it's not a big club anyway so you'll have the opportunity to put the names with the service provided at least. Even without German language you can easily get the info from the girls on the couches anyway.
There is no entrance fee, but you must choose up-front the number of sessions you want: 1 for €60, 2 for €90 and 3 for €110. You are given a locker key wristband with a card insert to record your sessions. After a session you go with the girl to the desk and the receptionist marks the girl's name and the type of service (FT, AO, Normal, etc). I don't know why they record this but maybe those that provide extras get some bonus. Sessions are 30 minutes and include all extras that the individual girl provides. BBBJ and DFK are standard. Couch action is common with BJ and even ficken quite common. The session time probably starts when she puts your cock in her mouth, but there is plenty of time for kissing and warming up etc before this happens if you wish. Most guys got some level of couch action before repairing to a room to finish. Some just went straight to a room after a short smooching session on the couch.
The girls sit on couches around the reception area and in a larger room behind. Porn is showing on large screen TVs in each room. The girls don't approach customers as such, but there is plenty of eye contact and smiles to lure you in. The procedure is to sit next to the one you fancy and take it from there. Most can speak German, some not. Not much English spoken, but you're not there for conversation probably.
There were about 12 girls present (mix of German, Romanian, Bulgarian, Dominican Republic and 1 from Nigeria) during my daytime visit and most punters seemed to choose either single or double session tickets. I chose a double.
I chose 2 non-AO sessions with Sylvia from Nigeria and Sarah from the Dominican Republic.
I just got talking with Sylvia (in English) and found her quite attractive so it went on from there. Sylvia is 1. 74 tall; slim like a model with A cup breasts, lovely chocolate skin. She's a fun girl who likes a laugh, is very receptive to DATY and gives the impression that she loves to fuck in several positions. She is also a schlucken provider so I made sure to test out that skill as a finish to proceedings. 'MMMM, salty' was her verdict. She may not be everyone's cup of tea but I would recommend her and would repeat.
After a rest for some coffee, a snack and a sauna I sat with Sarah who I had spoken to earlier. Sarah is from the Dominican Republic, about 1. 68, has tiny A cups with very responsive nipples and an ass to die for. She told me she doesn't do AO, but I liked her and we seemed to get on so we started to get it on while on one of the couches. She is an expert kisser and really gets into it. In the room she continued where we left off and boy does she get into extended DATY. She grinds her hips and clasps your head with her thighs, and really goes wild when you lick her perineum and anus. While licking and playing with her clit with my fingers she thrashed about on the bed. It's not often that a working girl thanks me afterwards for services rendered; but Sarah did, and she really seemed to enjoy it.
She returned the favour with some expert sucking, one of the best blow jobs I've had in a while. I didn't bother with full sex I was enjoying it so much. All the boxes were ticked: Little or no hand action, ball licking and sucking, perineum and anus licking, plenty of eye-contact throughout and happy to take CIM and continue licking and sucking for a while afterwards. She spits afterwards into a tissue. We spent a while in the room cuddling afterwards and in total must have been there about 50 minutes. There was no mention of any extra charge for going over the standard 30 minutes. Highly recommended.
This was my second visit to Arabella. I was not impressed with the line-up last time but gave it another go because the reports elsewhere had said that things had improved. They sure have.
http://fkk-arabella.com/
Not sure where the Arabella and Villa Venus threads are, but although they are FKK Clubs they are also AO venues so I put the reports here.
Villa Venus Duisburg-Neumuhl.
Saturday morning in Dusseldorf and I have a 4 hour window and need to get some AO action. Go back to Arabella or try Grimberg? Each is accessible easy enough on public transport. No I'll try a new to me place: Villa Venus in Duisburg Neumuhl. It has been getting good reports on German Forums recently and I haven't seen much mention of it on here, so in the interests of expanding the ISG knowledge base and providing much needed information to fellow sex travellers (to say nothing of getting myself some quality pussy-fun) , I decided to give it a go.
Bahn. De doesn't give much info on the final leg public transport options so I decided to taxi both ways from Duisburg Hbf. It might be a bit cheaper from Oberhausen, but Duisburg Hbf has better connections to and from Dusseldorf. Taxi was €17 to the club and €18 back to the Hbf (Thekefrau or one of the girls happy to call a taxi for guests).
This is a sister club to Arabella, but much larger inside, with better showers and changing room facilities. There is a small sauna downstairs by the showers. I like that the girls use the same showers as the guests. The main room is larger too (ground floor) with lots of couches and the obligatory porn showing on a few flat screen TVs. Session rooms are upstairs from the main lounge area. There is a small area to eat, but not much food provided (only fruit as far as I could see). Coffee and soft drinks were provided from self-service dispensers at the bar area.
Their website says that the pricing is 'Stark naked AO girls. Half hour wedding night all extras included. 1 for €55, 2 for €85, and 3 for €110'. DFK, FO and FT are standard as in the sister clubs. Not sure about the wedding, but you get the picture. The club is open 10. 00-24. 00 and until 02. 00 on Friday and Saturday.
As usual you press the bell at the gate are buzzed in and welcomed by a naked girl with two towels for you, she guides you to the desk where you decide up-front how many sessions you will have. Here the Thekefrau was naked too which differed to Arabella and Grimberg. Not sure if she sessions, but she wasn't my type anyway.
I decided on 3 sessions and paid my €110. After a shower I grabbed a coffee and had a wander around. Several FKK quality girls here today with a few who would be at home in Palace or Oase. Two tall model quality girls caught my eye and I decided then to save a session for one at least. The girls were mostly Romanian and Bulgarian as far as I could tell. Up to 20 or so were present during my stay. All were keen to attract customers and gave you the eye and a smile as you passed. Nice. Clients came (of course) and went as the day progressed. Most stayed for more than one session but there were never more than 10 at anytime I was there. Probably gets busier in the evenings.
While the girls don't approach customers they do entice you to sit and I joined Elena on a couch in the middle of the room. She was early 20s, had little German and no English. 1.65, dark hair, nice face and B cups. Warning 1 was when kissing her eyes scanned the room over my shoulder. Warning 2 was the way she played with my equipment under the towel as we kissed. Scratching rather than feeling. But she was young and I liked her so I stuck with it so off we went upstairs to a room. Performance was adequate but a bit naïve. BJ was unskilled with a lot of hand action. She seemed to enjoy my DATY but was quite dry on insertion. A bit of a fake moaner too but she got the job done and was rewarded with a cream pie. I would not repeat.
Round 2 went to Bahar a Turkish Bulgar who is quite striking in looks with very nice B / C cups and very long black hair. She is a quality service provider. I had spotted her when I arrived in the showers and made a note to follow up. Very nice BJ, enjoyed my DATY and provided multiple positions Ohne. She requested not to spritzen inside, so I suppose she is classified AO lite. After a half hour of exertions she finished me off manually. Very nice session, she is a repeater without a doubt.
Final session went to Cassandra, a tall Romy (1. 75 even without her heels) with dirty blond hair and C cups. This is one of the model types I noted when I arrived. She has a very attractive face which reminded me of a girl I used to fancy back home but wouldn't fuck me. WTF I might as well fuck her Romy lookalike. She would fit right in at FKK Palace, a bit of a shark. Fake moans during DATY and BJ, trying to get you to finish asap. But she can bend her body like a contortionist and provided a decent enough (covered) fuck in several positions. Not sure if she does AO. You need to take control with a girl like her. I cut our session short anyway as I was unlikely to cum and had to make tracks. I would repeat though, she is very sexy.
This is a nice club, but a bit inaccessible to those who rely on public transport. There is not much to do between sessions apart from snooze and sauna. Unless you recover fast between sessions you would probably get bored, so maybe best to stick to single or double sessions.
http://www.fkk-venus.com/
AColonizer
11-22-12, 00:43
I am sure any smart person can decide how many sessions only after seeing girls and chatting with them. That's a kind of blind date with your own money, something similar with a Russian roulette with your own money. If men want a quality service, then that is the wrong way. It is incredible how prostitutes can manipulate men!
I am sure any smart person can decide how many sessions only after seeing girls and chatting with them. That's a kind of blind date with your own money, something similar with a Russian roulette with your own money.That's the same flat rate concept (only difference, you prepay sessions instead of hours) this forum section is all about. All you're required to pay to enter the club is the minimal one session. If you don't want to prepay many sessions, you're free to buy one session at a time, and give up the economic benefit of buying them in bundle. The price for a single session will still be less than the entrance price many clubs charge only to let you enter the club, and without letting you check the line up beforehand.
If men want a quality service, then that is the wrong way. It is incredible how prostitutes can manipulate men!Girls are paid for session, and they are motivated to win a repeating customer. Service quality will be the same, no matter how many sessions you prepay.
Had the best AO experience ever tonight. Exciting location (very cold though) , excellent service from the girls, perfect amount of männer, a lot of sex, a lot of fun.
Erlebniswohnung tomorrow. Excited about the new girls. They look hot on the website.
Ok swingerlover I agree. You may have had a bad experience at fashion privat. But as everywhere it depends not just on the location but mostly on the girls. In anycase I've had 2 decent and one good but not great report there.its not perfect few places are- so ill still have to add them. Along with a terrible experience at gb01 in mörfelden.
BTW I'm a little curious as well swingerlover you always talk about new levels of cheating and bad parties in the ruhr area krefeld etc. Usually always the gypsy (zigeuner) gangbang parties (excepting probably laluna moers or other places with pale romanians) but even though you mention them as bad experiences you still post the link etc. I went to one of those once and got ripped off and will never return. But its almost like you are an insider that agrees with the concept that some dumb guy might come anyway. Or why do you keep posting the links with info for the parties in those areas? Strange
Ok swingerlover I agree. You may have had a bad experience at fashion privat. But as everywhere it depends not just on the location but mostly on the girls. In anycase I've had 2 decent and one good but not great report there. Its not perfect few places are- so ill still have to add them. Along with a terrible experience at gb01 in mörfelden.
BTW I'm a little curious as well swingerlover you always talk about new levels of cheating and bad parties in the ruhr area krefeld etc. Usually always the gypsy (zigeuner) gangbang parties (excepting probably laluna moers or other places with pale romanians) but even though you mention them as bad experiences you still post the link etc. I went to one of those once and got ripped off and will never return. But its almost like you are an insider that agrees with the concept that some dumb guy might come anyway. Or why do you keep posting the links with info for the parties in those areas? StrangeSW posts exhaustive info and adds usefulinfo, good or bad. Responsible adult mongers take the decision whetehr they like to go or not. SW is not htere to patronise anyone, and take decisions on behalf of others.
Thansk, SL, for all you so useful info.
SwingerLover
11-25-12, 13:06
Thansk, SL, for all you so useful info.You're welcome.
Ok swingerlover I agree. You may have had a bad experience at fashion privat. But as everywhere it depends not just on the location but mostly on the girls. In anycase I've had 2 decent and one good but not great report there. Its not perfect few places are- so ill still have to add them. Along with a terrible experience at gb01 in mörfelden.
BTW I'm a little curious as well swingerlover you always talk about new levels of cheating and bad parties in the ruhr area krefeld etc. Usually always the gypsy (zigeuner) gangbang parties (excepting probably laluna moers or other places with pale romanians) but even though you mention them as bad experiences you still post the link etc. I went to one of those once and got ripped off and will never return. But its almost like you are an insider that agrees with the concept that some dumb guy might come anyway. Or why do you keep posting the links with info for the parties in those areas? StrangeI had three bad and one not-so-good experiences at fashion-privatkreis. The first 3 over 8 years ago were regular swingerparties and I had stricken the place off my list already by then. It was only because of Amelie that I went back there again for another try this year. And I had another lousy day there again, because she couldn't parttake. Enough is enough, who's to say that something like this is not going to happen again? Coming a mucker four times (well. 3 and a half) at the same place is too much already. And even if there are 5 AO women, including Amelie, advertised for Lilly's birthday gangbang tomorrow, you couldn't drag me back there. What if Amelie has to cancel again for unforeseen reasons at short notice and one of the others isn't in shape for a gangbang and two more cancel? Then like the last time Lilly would be there by herself with 50 guys again, who get told nothing at the entrance. No thanks, I'm not willing to take the risk again of driving a total of 3 hours and pay 95 Euros (including test) to then be lucky to get only one single decent fuck out of that; with a woman that half of the ISG members wouldn't even fuck if you paid them for it!
Since it was not the women's fault, but the club's, that's the reason why I simply ignore them for the Calendar thread, instead of issuing explicit warning as I did and do with Hülser Straße 109 in Krefeld and Hindenburgstraße 218 in Mönchengladbach, where rip-off seems to be the intent right from the start. I had never had any such problems at the other locations in the MG-KR-area, like Gahlingspfad or Oppumer Straße. Even though some parties are better than others, depending on the women present. Today, I didn't go to Gahlingspfad simply because of Elli. The rest of today's line-up is very promising, but if I would have to be around Elli all day long without being allowed to beat her up at least once an hour, her presence would spoil the entire party for me. If only the other five would do the party, I would be there already and would be fucking the 2nd or 3rd one by now.
And Schneewittchen and relax-today were no intentional rip-offs, they were just plain simply bad IMO. No AO going on there anymore, so no reason to bother with them anymore.
At which place did you get ripped off? I definitely do not agree with the concept of ripping-off "dumb guys". That's why I post WARNINGS for HÜL 109 and HIN 218 and ignore fashion-privat. And I keep posting the links to the others, because I nearly always have a great time there, as you can read about in the Krefeld AO Parties thread.
I have never been to most places I put on the Calendar, it's only a list of options I might consider and stuff I find in the advertising sites online. So it might happen that I constantly post parties for a place that is no good, but I don't know about it. If bad reports and stories about a place I don't know become too much, then I stop posting them, like I had done for a while with Cleopatra-Arena and LaLuna-Moers, until the stories I heard got better again. There are only four adresses in NRW right now that I've been to myself AND that I consider good AND where they still do AO parties AND where I intend to go back to again: Oppumer Straße 6, Alte Linner Straße 7 and Gahlingspfad 10 in Krefeld (depending on the women) and Eva-Freundin in Mönchengladbach.
Had the best AO experience ever tonight. Exciting location (very cold though) , excellent service from the girls, perfect amount of männer, a lot of sex, a lot of fun.Oops. I wasn't aware that this would be an AO-event. Looking forward to a detailed report!
Unfortunately I did not get much time to plan my trip to Germany and which clubs I would visit, I had less than 24 hours to throw this whole trip together. I wanted to partake in AO action, and I planned to hit La Luna for Sex-in-Barroom day. I arrived Dusseldorf the afternoon of Nov 6, Bar-Room sex day was planned for the 7th with happy hour prices.
Overall the only public action was myself and Isabella, a attactive and very skinny girl with a nice kitty, overalll fairly mechanical like in Dorsten. However, I had a great time with Candy. The website says she is 18, but she has been there at lease a year so likely closer to 20 now, but could pass for younger. I her blow job was so-so, like a inexpierienced teenager. However, her pussy was the best I had in years, very tight, good texture and she seemed to get into me pumping away with LFK. All action took place in rooms (doors removed)
That was day one- two creampies down.
Day two my plan was to hit FKK Arabella, based on Myrrs report of Bryanna and Mikela. I took the DB and taxi (about 20 euro total from Dusseldorf) , I was met at the door by a cute spinner brunette who disappeared as soon as I walked in the door. I was then greeted by a tall older (about 50?) blonde who promptly told me this club "is for German men only", no Turkish allowed. WTF? I am not Turkish! I tried to explain I was from America. But she would not hear it. Her voice was something like a tuba, pretty deep. She went on to say "EF-KA-KA" clubs are for "Germans" only, you go to Eros Center "Red Light" its ok, here no.
There was no point in arguing with her, its a private business and they can run it the way they see fit. I asked her to call me a cab to go back to the train station, and this is what set me over the edge. She said "No-if I call taxi I have to pay commisson.
You are not a customer so no taxi". WTF. Now I am pissed, I have bad feet and there is no way in the world I could walk that far.
I left and went to the Mazda car dealer aross the street who happily called a cab for me.
I took the train back to DD, and saved my splooge for the ALL DAY AT LALUNA.
Next day at Laluna I just had to fuck Candy again, kind of fun watching my jizz drool out of her tight pussy, I also fucked Anne (no reference to her on their website) but a great performer, best BJ, and best overall performance. I also fucked Aida, Alexa, Angelique. So total of 5 at the all ticket.
Will I repeat, well since I am ALLOWED to party there and not the Arabella family probably. I will be somewhat aprehensive about putting time and effort into getting to clubs where I will get turned away at the dooor.
I then went down to FF to hit Oase, which for the most part was forgetable being constantly harrassed like I was at a car lot looking at new cars
Day two my plan was to hit FKK Arabella, based on Myrrs report of Bryanna and Mikela. I took the DB and taxi (about 20 euro total from Dusseldorf) , I was met at the door by a cute spinner brunette who disappeared as soon as I walked in the door. I was then greeted by a tall older (about 50?) blonde who promptly told me this club "is for German men only", no Turkish allowed. WTF? I am not Turkish! I tried to explain I was from America. But she would not hear it. Her voice was something like a tuba, pretty deep. She went on to say "EF-KA-KA" clubs are for "Germans" only, you go to Eros Center "Red Light" its ok, here no.
There was no point in arguing with her, its a private business and they can run it the way they see fit. I asked her to call me a cab to go back to the train station, and this is what set me over the edge. She said "No-if I call taxi I have to pay commisson.
You are not a customer so no taxi". WTF. Now I am pissed, I have bad feet and there is no way in the world I could walk that far.
I left and went to the Mazda car dealer aross the street who happily called a cab for me.It's really sick that you were treated in this way. Your treatment could not have been worse really.
OK, their reasons for acting this way is because of the generally perceived poor behaviour of Turkish guys at these establishments. However I understand that this is normally Turkish guys when they are in groups, and you were on your own. Also, if when you talked to them you came across as a reasonable guy then they should have used their discretion rather than being blanket discriminatory.
OK they feel that they need to protect their business first and foremost but refusing to call a taxi when you were on foot was really heartless.
I don't feel so good about this place now having heard your story.
SwingerLover
11-26-12, 11:48
Now I am pissed,And rightfully so!
The first thing I did after reading your report, even before writing this reply here, was to delete Arabella from my AO map.
Are they nuts? I can understand the hysteria about turkish guys, there's a good reason for it. But refusing to call a guy a cab and sending him away on foot after refusing him entrance is beyond insulting, beyond vicious! I call upon everybody to boycott this place from now on! May they go broke within a month!
i decided to go for this party after i stumbled across the ad at fickanziegen. the girls, the date and the concept felt appealing. i'm now enlightened that pornfighter arrange ao partys on regular basis in berlin. for me it's a very attractive alternative as i like berlin very much and i can always go to erlebniswohnung (my favorite gb party) if it's no good.
after i subscribed to the party, i googled the girls and downloaded a ggg movie with aymie. she looks wierd on pictures but in the movie she's really hot. i thought the other two girls looked alright so i was pleased with my choice.
getting to the party was easy. i just picked a hotel close and went 1 station with the s-bahn and walked for 10 minutes. i was the first guest and when i arrived i thought, omg this is not going to be a good evening for some reason. the venue is a really cool photo studio, but not a club or apartment. imagine an old factory, concrete floor, photos on the walls with pin-up girls, a parrot cage, old items from the sixties. a lot of character. the facilities were not so good and it was pretty cold. once i got the test done and settled down i started to enjoy the atmosphere. it felt like i was waiting for a porno shoot to start. john was the host and it was cool to see him irl after watching several ggg movies with him. he's pretty shy and friendly but doesn't speak english. we managed to communicate anyway.
the girls were already there and there were no backstage area so we were all hanging out in the bar. this is great imo. all three of them were really petite and looked really hot in their hooker outfit, but nicky, what a little stunner. i couldn't wait to start the action.
just 10 minutes before the start we were only 3 guys, but all of a sudden the männer popped in one after another. i have no idea of how many we were but the limit is 40 and the website said that only 32 guys had subscribed. i think we were like 25 but it felt like less. far from crowded as gb01 or spermagames. the big studio with 2 beds was also perfect. it was enough space. compared to other venues when there are many smaller rooms, the studio was so much better. the air was breathable, you could glimpse over to the other bed and see what's going on there. in general it's easier to get good timing. i remember i missed a lot of action in hamburg because i was on the upper floor when the good things were happening in the basement.
about 15 minutes past 4 pm john introduced the girls and all three went straight to bed after. most of the guys went for jacqueline. so initially we were only about 8 guys on aymie and nicky. oboy, those girls are fantastic. so clean and tight. perfect skin and beautiful pussies. watching them lying on their back on the bed beside eachother with their pussies wide open, was almost too much. me and another guy went straight for daty. i took aymie. i could eat them both. i went on for a minute until aymie told me that she didn't do daty really. so i moved up and shoved my dick inside of her. ohhh god it felt good. i was so horny i could explode at once and the feeling of easy access is so great. the best trick to enjoy a gangbang is to avoid masturbating for while before, but it's difficult haha i could only hold myself for 3 days. the 8 guys were circling around aymie and nicky and we gave eachother good space. we went on for ages until some guys started to cum. nicky did cim / cof and aymie cim / creampie. i never felt so relaxed and unrushed in a gangbang. we all had time to enjoy and get pleasure out from the girls. i almost 'fell in love' with nicky. she looked so god damn hot. tanned smooth skin, fit, hair extensions (i'm glad she has a new hairstyle, the old one was ugly as hell) , trashy tatoos which i like, beautiful white teeth and perfect shaped body and her pussy felt extremely good. i took her in several positions but during mish i couldn't hold back so i pulled out and almost screamed out: 'ich komme'. she gave me her head and i came allover her face and mouth. she sucked and sucked and played with my cock. this was just heaven. i hate when the girls leave you as the first drop of cum comes out from the dick. she just went crazy for the cum and then showed the other guys her cum filled mouth and gurgled and swallowed. fuck. life can't be better. on the other side of the room jacqueline was really busy with a bunch of men. i peeked over now and then and saw that she was constantly filled with 3 dicks in her holes. she is a screamer and was going on the whole evening. what a fuck machine.
i had a 10 minutes break and then back to the action. for some reason nicky was available quite a lot so i had another fantastic session with her. we had a really good chemistry and it was like a gfe almost. while she was cowgirling me i steered her head towards different cocks and decided who she should suck. it was fun. i asked the other guys now and then if they wanted to fuck her, but they wanted blow jobs. i had her bareback pussy for myself. we fucked and fucked. i got exhausted and took a break, during the break nicky sucked me and wanted my cum again. her blowjobs are really really good. wet, no teeth and she knows how to use her hand. some girls try to rip the foreskin off. she worked really hard to make me cum, but i said i can't come after a while (which was a lie). i wanted to produce more cum for a big cumshot later. we took a break and went outside for a smoke. i got a chance to chat with her. what a lovely girl. i made a little joke and asked if she did 'take away' and if i could take her home to my country. i also asked if she had a boyfriend (she speaks no english so i had to mix german and common english words). she blushed and thought i was serious. i explained that it was just another way to tell her that i'm very attracted to her and that she is very very schöand. later she told everyone in the 'staff ' about this 'joke'. it appeared that her boyfriend was there watching us, but i wasn't aware until later. he looked jelous and i think she got second thoughts about him haha i'm sucha player.
now aymie took a long break. she had a cold so she was behind the bar in her winter jacket trying to get better. at the same time a swinger couple arrived with an ok looking girl around 26 yrs old. she was allowing anyone to enter but i wasn't bothered to try her. once aymie took a break, the guys banging jacqueline swapped to nicky instead and she got really busy. on the other hand jacqueline got available so i went straight from the shower and shoved my cock in her pussy from behind. what a petite little ass she had. we were 3-4 guys circling around on jacqueline. there was a moment when she was lying on the side and her ass was sticking out on the edge of the bed. i just shoved my cock into her. i remember this moment because it was sucha turn on. we fucked her like crazy. dp's, cumshots, sucking, creampies. what a gorgeus moment. this evening my cock was very sensitive so every second of intimacy was a pure pleasure and it was easy to keep the erection.
aymie came back and she was only busy sucking one guy. i swapped and put my dick inside her pussy again. it was too much for me and i exploaded after a few minutes. it came so fast so i didn't have a chance to reach her mouth so i sprayed my cum over her stomach and tits and then the last drops back inside her pussy. fuck. i can't describe how good it felt.
i had to take a break. the guys were as usual in all different shapes and ages, but very good performers. it was a lot of viewing pleasure. i love gb's as you constantly get satisfaction either by looking or participating.
in this party no food was served, only drinks and snacks. i didn't care about food really, i was there for fucking, not eating.
i had a coffee and a little chat with the photographer who owned the studio. everyone was very friendly and nice to hang around with. my dick was now a little bit sored from hours of intensive fucking, but i was still horny. went back to jacqueline who just got a big dick in her ass in reverse cowgirl postion. that left her pussy free. i jumped into the action and put my dick into her pussy. i could only go on for a minute or so. my erection failed me for the first time. maybe because the position was to wierd and i got cramp in my legs. i stepped aside and wanked for a while. got hard again and now i was back. we circled around on jacqueline and filled her holes with cocks and sperm. from the beginning she looked sophisticated with backslick hairdo and high heels, now she looked like she had gone through a mma tournament with her hair allover the place, sperm on her body, smeared mascara, soaked in sweat etc. haha so wild.
now, some guys started to leave and we were only half of the crowd left. most of the guys were also done and just hanging around in the bar. me and another young fellow were like bunny rabbits. still energetic and willing to fuck. we both played with nicky again. he was the most active one and i have never seen anyone being so manic. the final crescendo of the evening. we were four guys standing in a row by the edge of the bed, all getting sucked by nicky and we wanked for cum like it was the last day of living. first, the young guy came and shot his load into nickys mouth, then seconds after i said 'jetzt' and she opened her mouth for me, i came massive. she swallowed both our loads. then continued to the next guy and the next and swallowed. she got her dose of protein for the rest of the year. or maybe not.
all in all. for me this party was above perfect and i can't wait until next time. i was attracted to all three girls and i had more sex than i could handle. for some more experienced ao guys, maybe this is not the best option. nicky didn't do creampie which i prefer. i think the pussy gets too slippery and sticky with all that cum from other men. aymie is a little bit passive, not only beacuse she had a cold and i think experienced guys would find that boring. jacqueline is a wild little spinner who can satisfy an army, but not my favorite. still a great fuck. the whole arrangement is not as professionally set up as spermagames or gb01, but somehow very sexy and exciting. i was the only non german speaking guest and there are only white people around. the party last for 4-4, 5 hours which is kind of short. you need to be able to reload fast. i came 4 times but it was one of the better evenings in terms of stamina and ability to cum. in terms of quantity, i have never had so much time for dick-in-bareback-pussy in one evening. hardly with ex girlfriends.
i'm a happy man.
For some more experienced AO guys, maybe this is not the best option. Nicky didn't do creampie which I prefer. I think the pussy gets too slippery and sticky with all that cum from other men. Aymie is a little bit passive, not only beacuse she had a cold and I think experienced guys would find that boring. Jacqueline is a wild little spinner who can satisfy an army, but not my favorite. Still a great fuck. The whole arrangement is not as professionally set up as Spermagames or GB01, but somehow very sexy and exciting. I was the only non german speaking guest and there are only white people around. The party last for 4-4, 5 hours which is kind of short. You need to be able to reload fast. I came 4 times but it was one of the better evenings in terms of stamina and ability to cum. In terms of quantity, I have never had so much time for dick-in-bareback-pussy in one evening.SooNice that was a wonderfully descriptive account of what sounded like a true pornstar experience.
A couple of questions though:
1) As it was held in a studio did they film the event?
2) Multiple sperm swallows sound like a porntastic dream but did any of the girls allow creampie? After all one of the natural results of the dick-in-bareback-pussy experience is that the dick-cums-inside-pussy, no?
I can see the mud sliding enthusiasts reading this and thinking that there is something essential missing. This party was AO lite!
SooNice that was a wonderfully descriptive account of what sounded like a true pornstar experience.
A couple of questions though:
1) As it was held in a studio did they film the event?
2) Multiple sperm swallows sound like a porntastic dream but did any of the girls allow creampie? After all one of the natural results of the dick-in-bareback-pussy experience is that the dick-cums-inside-pussy, no?
I can see the mud sliding enthusiasts reading this and thinking that there is something essential missing. This party was AO lite!Cheers Myrrh,
Yes it was a very uplifting experience.
1. Yes I have a ggg movie with Nicky on my computer from the studio the party took place.
2. Both Aymie and Jaqceline did creampie. I rather cum outside. It turns me on to see the girl covered with cum. I'm not a big fan of mud sliding. But of course I had moments when I put my dick inside Jaqueline and she was filled already. It was only Nicky who didn't want creampies. Don't know the reason.
Cheers
Cheers Myrrh,
Yes it was a very uplifting experience.
1. Yes I have a ggg movie with Nicky on my computer from the studio the party took place.
2. Both Aymie and Jaqceline did creampie. I rather cum outside. It turns me on to see the girl covered with cum. I'm not a big fan of mud sliding. But of course I had moments when I put my dick inside Jaqueline and she was filled already. It was only Nicky who didn't want creampies. Don't know the reason.
CheersCorrection.
1. Sorry I read your question wrong. No filming at all. Just a normal AO party.
Correction.
1. Sorry I read your question wrong. No filming at all. Just a normal AO party.Just pics of Aymie and Nicky from GGG movies.
SwingerLover
11-29-12, 14:08
I'm a happy man.Superb description of what was obviously an excellent AO event. I just RODed this marvellous piece of literature!
Next party on SAT, DEC 8th from 15:30-20:30 in Berlin-Weißensee.
www.pornfighterlongjohn.com
Mrknowitall
11-29-12, 17:51
And rightfully so!
I call upon everybody to boycott this place from now on! May they go broke within a month!I will boycott as well. There is enough competition here in Super Deutschland to drive them out. So much competition that I am surprised that anyone is turned away anymore.
Explorer415
11-29-12, 18:54
Interesting report about Arabella. I have dark brown skin. Over the past 8 years I have been to many FKK & Sauna clubs in the NRW area. I have only been refused entry to Golden Time a couple of times (although they have let me in there on other occasions) and Babylon (only tried once). But have had no problems getting into any of the other clubs including places like Bernds. I did even go to old Club Tabulose in MG once about 5 years ago before the splits & relocations.
I'd like to explore some of the clubs being discussed in this section, but rather than get turned away, I'd like to find out any current "door policies" at these AO clubs. For example places like Eva & Friends, the other Ewa place, Club-Angelique, etc. Any places I should stay away from?
Well unf I had the bad luck to try a gb01 party there in mörfelden a month or so back.aymie eng, sarah ann, I think laura, mia ***** and some other backups were there. Well I thought hey a place finally close to frankfurt. But they should have chosen somewhere else its not near the trainstation if your not in a car, and the place is WAY to small for such an event. It was impossible to walkaroundmost of the time. What started badonly got worse. They insist on filming the first rounds and video and cameraman were idiots making comments and just getting in the way what was already too crowded. I cam for aymie eng but she seems to have already been doctrinated into the fuck 4 or 5 guys then take a break routine. Almost as bad as sarahann who worked for like 10 minutes at a atime. Mia ***** is a waste because she does no sex without a condom just blowjobs. Only laura seemed to try to save the day but the one semi large room with a terribly small door to it had the window closed it was roasting. Even the grill guys were idiots they ran out of steaks just as I was at the end of the line. Had to share a burned hotdog with someone else. NEVER EVER AGAIN. The only partially amusing thing was seeing the pornofighterlongjohn guy who has the website with funny music. But he juststood around looking useless. Apparently part of the circus. So if you want a circus gangbang atmosphere kind of like the old spermagames. With little schlammschieben and lots of bullshit then go to a gb01 in mörfelden if you can fit inside.
ok so i promised to continue the reports. and again despite sl bad time i have had one great and two ok times at fashion privat by bonn. this last time i travelled by train and it is conveniently located just a few strassenbahn stops north of bonn hbf. and then only 5minutes around the corner from that stop in a semi-industrial area. well again its not a perfect club. the entry of almost 75euros pisses me off i would visit alot more for 50. and beware if you don't bring a test thats another 15 euros (when i get one test from a doctor i make sure to make 10 copies of it to use as long as possible). in anycase it is definitly a private swinger club. not some professional fkk club. so its almost too small for big parties. but the two fuck areas are usually big enough. the lockers suck can't they invest for some more theres not even a sofa to take your shoes off. the bar is ok but its smoking allowed. sucks if you are allergic to smoke. there are 3 rooms more or less a dark room kind of small another room which is where most action is and a third behind a pool which no one uses just like gangbang-nds in peine and really should be taken out to make space for some nice sofas coffee tables etc. in the back is like a huge bunk bed with placeson top and bottom. sucky thing is its partially in a greenhouse to the outside so it tends to get cold in winter. last but not least a sauna and shower. there are at least plenty of towels for guests but no flipflops. so on to the girls. they make or break the parties. well too bad sl missed amelie. she is real and hey if she was sick once bad luck. but when she does show up she fucks her brains out and lets everyone come inside her assuming there are plenty of penises. so does lilly. last year when i was there lilly didn't used to fuck i think because she had gotten her tits pierced back then and thy still hurt ok no prob. if you are lucky enough to see jenny from euskirchen a skinny ***** about the age of amelie she fucks just as good (she usually does private parties at her own place for 25euro if you can believe it but its very hard to get her address via poppen=) soo i mentioned some 19 yo chick was supposed to show up the other week. well she did and stood around looking good with her tits and her boyfriend who looked like the old brazilian ronaldo guy with the gaptooth. well she was a flop because that night at least she only fucked 2 guys with condoms and then bolted off the matt. a ripoff if you had expected to fuck her bareback as i did. but hey so now you see the parties depend on the girls and hey the owner of the club couldn't let us [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) her or give are moneyback since lilly fucked and hey its a swingerclub technically nothings guranteed. so you see if you want a place where you know you will fuck amelie, jenny or lilly without a condom not too far from bonn. go its a good time and the people are friendly if you are looking for a circus gb go to spermagames if you are looking for bulgarian ripoff gbs go to krefeld. my favorites are still gangbang-nds in peine and villa-frivol butthey are tooo too far from rheinmain very often for me. so heyy you go where you can-happy schlammschieben zoman
Day two my plan was to hit FKK Arabella, based on Myrrs report of Bryanna and Mikela. I took the DB and taxi (about 20 euro total from Dusseldorf) , I was met at the door by a cute spinner brunette who disappeared as soon as I walked in the door. I was then greeted by a tall older (about 50?) blonde who promptly told me this club "is for German men only", no Turkish allowed. WTF? I am not Turkish! I tried to explain I was from America. But she would not hear it. Her voice was something like a tuba, pretty deep. She went on to say "EF-KA-KA" clubs are for "Germans" only, you go to Eros Center "Red Light" its ok, here no.
There was no point in arguing with her, its a private business and they can run it the way they see fit. I asked her to call me a cab to go back to the train station, and this is what set me over the edge. She said "No-if I call taxi I have to pay commisson.Although private businesses have more leeway than public institutions, discriminating on the basis of race etc is definitely not allowed, even for a private business. I'm sure that if you had a couple of witnesses to back up your story that you would have no problem at all in court. Of course, the clubs expect that no-one will take them to court since most customers don't want to admit publicly to being customers.
I can understand where they are coming from, but better would be something like "we reserve the right to refuse entry to and / or expel customers who make the staff and / or other customers uncomfortable" or something like that, but this might be more difficult, especially throwing them out after they have come in (and paid). One would need a bouncer etc.
Note that Mettmann is rather the reverse here: all the girls are German, and there are customers from many different countries, of many different races etc. I've seen Turkish guys there, Black guys, Asian, Dutch, German, English. No problem. I'm sure Darth Vader will confirm that he felt just as comfortable at Mettmann as I did.
SwingerLover
12-01-12, 14:53
I'd like to explore some of the clubs being discussed in this section, but rather than get turned away, I'd like to find out any current "door policies" at these AO clubs. For example places like Eva & Friends, the other Ewa place, Club-Angelique, etc. Any places I should stay away from?No problem at "Bad Girls" on Oppumer Straße 6 in Krefeld so far. I have met several blacks there at different parties and never heard any complaints from either side. So no problem there with skin colour, only with the certain ethnicity that gets turned away at Arabella and other clubs because of good reasons if they appear in pairs or groups.
The other AO-party-team in Krefeld with the mostly bulgarian girls (We have to find a name for them, how about "Good Girls" in order to differenciate between them and the "Bad Girls" team?) have no problem with turkish guys, as long as they come by themselves and not in groups, but here I have witnessed a few times a racist bias up to downright disgust from some of the women towards blacks, especially when it comes to AO. I don't know what those girls, some from the remote hinterlands of Bulgaria, are told about blacks, and I'm not okay with their bias. But it's a fact that might hit you in the face if you go there as a black guy for AO. One very dark black guy once bitterly complained to them and told them to their face what a racist policy it is, but that didn't help anything at all. And it's only with some of the women, still it's a bit of a game of chance since you never know upfront which one has what attitude. No idea about their attitude towards dark brown skin.
At Eva-Freundin, the subject has not come up yet at either of my 3 visits; asian looking guys are no problem. Sportsman and everybody else who has been there more often might have better knowledge about that.
I don't know about other places in NRW where I haven't been to myself, but I shall think skincolour shouldn't be any problem everywhere where they do mandatory HIV-test on-site, like Gangbang01 or Spermastudio for example.
SwingerLover
12-01-12, 16:43
and the place is WAY to small for such an event. It was impossible to walkaroundmost of the time. What started badonly got worse. They insist on filming the first rounds and video and cameraman were idiots making comments and just getting in the way what was already too crowded. I cam for aymie eng but she seems to have already been doctrinated into the fuck 4 or 5 guys then take a break routine. Almost as bad as sarahann who worked for like 10 minutes at a atime. Mia ***** is a waste because she does no sex without a condom just blowjobs. Only laura seemed to try to save the day but the one semi large room with a terribly small door to it had the window closed it was roasting. Even the grill guys were idiots they ran out of steaks just as I was at the end of the line. Had to share a burned hotdog with someone else. NEVER EVER AGAIN.I figured as much. I know the place from years ago when it was still Partykreis-Airport, one of the very good Swingerclubs in the area until taken over by different management and renamed to LoveLounge. (And what club owner in his right mind loans out the Friday night to external providers, instead of keeping the Friday night to himself? Speaks volumes about what must be not going on on regular Fridays there.) Anyway, when I first heard (from Amelie's husband noless) that there had been 80 guys there for a GB01 party, I already wondered about how this could have worked in such a relatively small house. It seems that it didn't. And for the next party on DEC 14th, they will have Melanie Moon there, so it should be even more crowded.
What puzzles me most is that they are filming part of the event. None of the ads on Fickanzeigen, Fickreklame and such ever said anything about filming, and I never saw anything about that on their website either. But I didn't check the website all that thoroughly, so that might be my mistake.
In anycase it is definitly a private swinger club. Not some professional fkk club. So its almost too small for big parties.It wouldn't have hurt if they had been a bit more professional. Then I would have been told that Amelie was sick when I called there 90 minutes before the start of the party or at least when I was at the door. I also find it strange that they run the club and have their own website, but the guests like Amelie, Lily and as of now even Gangbang-Natascha do the advertising on Fickanzeigen. Why is there no mentioning of the women on the website and no mentioning of the club in the ads? Something smells fishy here, nobody else operates this way.
And yes, I think it's too small for big parties too. I recall from the one Saturday visit years ago that there are some big rooms upstairs that would really work out for gangbang action, but those were closed all the other times and only the small corners downstairs and the narrow playgrounds in the Wintergarten, where you had to look out for not hitting your head during fucking were open.
Well too bad SL missed Amelie. She is real and hey if she was sick once bad luck. But when she does show up she fucks her brains out and lets everyone come inside her assuming there are plenty of penises. So does lilly. Last year when I was there lilly didn't used to fuck I think because she had gotten her tits pierced back then and thy still hurt ok no prob. If you are lucky enough to see jenny from euskirchen a skinny ***** about the age of amelie she fucks just as goodYes of course it was bad luck that she was sick. And I don't blame her, shit happens. The problem was that they didn't tell us upfront. I know that she's real, I met her several times at Spermagames, she's just great when she gets going. Lily also seemed to have fucked a lot, but I didn't even get to see much of that, much less fuck her myself. Same with a lot of the other guys. And Jenny had been there too, but not much fucking going on with her, later on only BBBJ and Bukkake.
and hey its a swingerclub technically nothings guranteed.Yes. That argument is used countlessly for years now to rip people off. And you have no choice to just let that stand. That's why I don't go to regular Swingerclubs anymore. (Any info on Swingerclubs where the women actually go for fucking is welcome.) At Fashion, it's even worse, because they can whitewash their hands if a woman doesn't show up, because the women do the advertising without mentioning the club and the club doesn't advertise the women. If I were paranoid and didn't know Amelie, the idea of organized rip-off could come to mind. Why the club doesn't advertise openly and give access to everybody who shows up without registering first is beyond me. Why the secrecy? If a private circle does gangbangs in a regular flat in a big apartment building, I can understand that they may have to be secretive. But at a club at a lonestanding building in a commercial area? I don't get it. Smells fishy again.
So you see if you want a place where you know you will fuck amelie, jenny or lilly without a condom not too far from bonn. Go its a good time and the people are friendly if you are looking for a circus gb go to spermagames if you are looking for bulgarian ripoff gbs go to krefeld. My favorites are still gangbang-nds in peine and villa-frivol butthey are tooo too far from rheinmain very often for me. So heyy you go where you can-happy schlammschieben zomanLike before: I didn't get to fuck Amelie or Lily there. I did not have a good time there, and if anything was a "gangbang circus" then it was there in Bornheim. Rarely such a circus at Spermagames, at my last visit there back in March 20 more men would not have been a problem.
Aside from Denise and her fraud at Hülser Straße 109 when I was there, there hasn't been any rip-off in Krefeld either when I was there in now over 14 months and at least 20 parties.
But in Bornheim, there have always been smaller or larger groups of guys around with me at every one of my four visits, said guys were also very disappointed about this place. And when I had complained years ago, I got the replies of the kind I get at every place that had been no good for me, like: 'At other times it's always great here.' or 'Usually there are more peopel here.' or this one from Bornheim from 8 years ago: 'Last Gangbang-Friday there were 19 women here and not enough men. At 23:00 the women were running around asking the guys who was still able to fuck.'. Strange that stuff like that always seems to happen when I'm not present. At those places I seem to have the skill to only pick the 4 days in over 8 years that have been bad. What a coincidence. Or is it the other way around after all? That what I experienced there was the common thing and the good days are the flukes? I honestly don't know what Amelie, Lily and the others see in this place. As if there were no other, better locations around for partying.
Some reports about Gangbang-NDS and Villa Frivol / MyDirtyEvents would be welcome; I don't recall ever reading anything about them on ISG. But I have the same problem here as Zoman69; it's too far away.
I see http://www.fickreklame.com/ Is down a few days now. Looks like the site might be finished?
SwingerLover
12-02-12, 14:48
Don't worry yet. It has happened before with both Fickreklame and Fickanzeigen. They had been back on after a few days. If it's not back on by Thursday, then you can start thinking about an obituary.
SwingerLover
12-05-12, 12:57
And voilá, as of today the Fickreklame site is back on again as expected.
SwingerLover
12-08-12, 22:15
I just had to go and give Gerti a try for the first time. Unlike during the rest of the year when she did Gangbangs at home for 20 or 10 or zero Euros, it happened elsewhere today and cost 30 Euros for what was meant to be a 5-hour-gangbang from 15-20:00. The location was a private apartment of a guy in Kerpen-Brüggen. Hardly any place was ever so easy to find, hardly any street was so badly (meaning not at all) cleared from ice and snow; neither was the entire city, not even the main streets. WTF? I'm from the boonies and there's not one piece of ice and snow left on the main streets of my hometown, much less on the bigger streets outside; they call themselves a city and not even the Bundesstraße is cleared from yesterday's snow. Haven't they heard of snowplows over there? Not even the Autobahn A61 in NRW was completely cleared; you could tell the border to Rhineland-Palentine by the state of the road. As long as there was ice on the A61, you were in NRW.
I arrived a few minutes after 15:00, paid my 30 Euros, got undressed and entered the living room, where Gerti was already giving blowjobs to the 4 guys that were already there. All action took place on or in front of the leather couch in the living room. I started with some DATY, but I couldn't quite get going with the fucking. The apartment had a strange room-climate, it was very foot-cold. During the afternoon, I was sweating and still had cold feet despite wearing socks. So I let the other guys fuck away on her and tried again later. In all there might have been around 10 guys there, no more than 6 at once. Most left after one cum, no one else stayed very long. After two hours I was alone with Gerti, her hubby (who didn't parttake) and the guy who provided the apartment.
I had some trouble fucking her. When she was kneeling down giving blowjoys to the others, she was too narrow for me to get in. When she was lying on the couch, the angle didn't work for me. When everything else was okay, I couldn't find the 'entrance'. When I finally got inside her, my dick slipped out after a few pokes. Her pussy is very strangely built inside, compared to others. Although quite tight. While she was BBBJing the last of the other guys until he came into her mouth, I did some more DATY and, since Wanking wasn't there, some Arsch-licking. At 17:00 we took a break and had something to drink and some smalltalk, the 4 of us that were left. I was playing with her tits during that.
Half an hour later, she started BBBJing me, then the host-guy started fucking her from behind. Afterwards she got in front of him to blow him, I started on her from behind and again couldn't get it into her pussy, so I went for the ass and anal-ized her. Came in her ass too. Since no one else was there anymore, they cut it short and it was over at 18:00.
I did not see her go for any wash during the entire time and not afterwards either. She got dressed with my cum in her ass and surely some of the other guys sperm in her pussy. I'd say if enough of the right guys are around and at a better location, she's good for some pretty kinky and dirty AO-gangbangs. Will I give it another try with her? Propably. At this location again? No. Do I recommend her? That depends. To the lots of guys looking for pretty, young and slim women definitely not. To guys who don't care about her age and her looks and want a gangbang with a really dirty pig: Yes, if you are in the area. But I wouldn't plan any trip around her. Compared to the old woman ColBog1 and I rubberfucked at our mishap-gangbang in Bornheim, Gerti looks and fucks better. Compared to totally uninterested slim, young, better looking Monika I had at a party in Krefeld a few weeks back, Gerti is a pearl. Most of you punters might not find her much to look at, she's not a star when it comes to fucking, more like your regular german housewife you would meet and fuck at a Swingerclub and have some fun with. Except that Gerti does AO and all holes are available to be fucked and creampied. I expect it will be better with her at another place and with other guys around.
Awesome report, SooNice. I got fuckin hard just reading it! Sounds incredible.
Went to Club Angelique AO flat rate party last week, Thursday. Have arrived a bit late. 1 pm or so. There were 7 girls and the party price was 125 euro. There were some girls I already know and sone mew faces I encountyer first time; girls attendance was Ruby, Alina, Alice already known and fucked previously by myself and some new girls such as Cathy, Cassandra, Magie and Angie.
I also met a fellow sewnior ISG member, a real connaisseur to AO scenewrey of Germany.
The party day is diffeerent than normal days, popular girls such as Ruby, Alice and Alina was always busy by regular customers, talking, socialisng and waisting precious party time.
As they were busy, I started with the least attractive ones;
Chubby girl named Magy or whatever, nothing to write home about in the room, didn't cum in 20 min, won't repeat.
Cassandra: maybe the ugliest of the team, but she was hot in the room, DFK and cowgirl skill is tolerating what she misses on the look department. She make me cum on cowgirl. Don+t know why but when I go upstairs lounge, the most attractive ones were always busy and Cassandra always approached me. On normal day, I won't buy her but in the party, I went three times with her. She made me cum on two occasions, she moves inside of her pubic muscle on a strange way that I can't hold my load. On third time, I stopped her in order not to cum.
After Cassandra, I sampled Angie, not new to me but not an opportunity to try her. Not the best but also not the worst session of the day. She is not blonde any more, faked orgasm in order to save.
Last session was with Alina, I believe she is the best looking girl of the party although she kept some weight since last time. As she was always busy, I have to wait her another 45 min.
Before Alina, I always wear protection in all my five sessions but with Alina, I wanted to try a bit AO, things were so good but so fast, she started to ride me but suddenly, I had a real strong cumshot inside her pussy, as fast as possible, I don't know if she was A lite or not but she immediately run showers to wash, lateer she told me I waited 45 minutes for a one minute of session, I was fast like a 15 yo colleg, LOL. I now found another reason for not doing AO, because I am not used it, I came too early. Believe normal day in Angelique is better than party day because you have to wait best girls and you have to wait also rooms. But normal days can be twice more expensive with AO supplement and so on.
Normally, this report could also be placed in Other FKK thread, but as Grimberg offer AO inclusive flat rate, such as Arabella ands Villa Venus, I decided to place it here.
Normally, that Saturday privat club gold announced an early gang bang party, and I went to MG at 10 am in this snowy weather. When I reach the club, they told me the party will start later but was alreay full, I asked "I saw nobody here" the reply was that they all made early registration and they will show up, WTF. Are you kidding me? The lady says there were 4 women, if I like I can choose a normal private room session for 50 Euro. The selection I saw was only fat hausfrau, surely theree should be more attractive ones but I was pissed off, neither me, nor the women werent interested in the business so I kept this 120 euro in my pocket and spend it morew wisely. Like what, like visiting three different clubs and fucking 5 attractive young girls in the same day. Hey, it is suppose the end of the world coming, we should be prepared.
First club sauna Grimberg. Then follwed by zhuzha gangbang and went to Vila Venus before I call it a night.
Arrived to the sauna grimberg club at 1 pm, I had 2 full hours in the club before rushing to zhuzha gangbang. The offer in grimberg was such as; 1 x 55, 2 x 85, 3 x 110 euro, all the sessions were inclusive all the possible extra services the girls provide. And you can the picture of the girls and the extra servive they practice, near the theke. As I had restricted time, to catch zhuzha gang bang, I choose only 1 session and paid directly to the thekefrau. My last time to Grimberg was two years ago, the club didn't changed much but the line up is new to me. And before the session times were 20 min and for AO, you were paying extra 30 euro to girl, but now this is changed, with the new all service included system, the duration of each session is half an hour now.
When I visited thew club in noon time on a Saturday, I saw about 15 girls, mostly bulgarian, a few romy. Most girls were doable, ranging 5 to 7 on my scale, and I spotted a tall romy, named Alice, an 8. 5 on my book, and unlike the Bulgarians she was talking decent English, I shouldn't wait and take her in the room, if I saw her in GT, I wouldn't hesitate to pay 50 euro per room, but here she was available for much cheaper with bareback and so on, I like her DFK, long session with kissing, cuddling, cow girl, mish, spoon, but she declineddoggy, and to finish BBBJCIM blow till the end. What can you expect from an 8. 5 girl for an exchange of 30 euro.
One footnote, it would be wise if you buy a ticket of one room, and then check the line up, if you fancy, after your first shot, you can pay directly to the girl 30 euro. This is much better then to decide foremost before seeing the whole line up.
All in all, Sauna Grimberg was one of my favorite place once upon atime before I discover BelAmi and Penelope, now, with the new system, I can repeat this place next year, there were enough charming young girl which does DFK and other extras as some FKK girls don't. Even I had enough time in Grimberg and had to buy three sessions foremost, it would be easy to find three nice girls, I have already some candidates on my mind which I had an eye on. Next stop zhuzha and then Villa Venus which has more or less the same concept of Grimberg but which I didn't fancy much.
SwingerLover
12-10-12, 12:21
I also met a fellow sewnior ISG member, a real connaisseur to AO scenewrey of Germany.
I waited 45 minutes for a one minute of session.Who was the other ISG-member? Varenne, who posted for this party in the Travel Ann thread? Whoever it was, I'm looking forward to the report!
And as I see, you had to wait. That means that everybody has to wait his turn and then everything happens one-on-one behind closed doors, right? So contrary to the results of their poll, still no party or gangbang; business as usual, only for a flatrate price.
Who was the other ISG-member? Varenne, who posted for this party in the Travel Ann thread? Whoever it was, I'm looking forward to the report!
And as I see, you had to wait. That means that everybody has to wait his turn and then everything happens one-on-one behind closed doors, right? So contrary to the results of their poll, still no party or gangbang; business as usual, only for a flatrate price.Hi SL, the other ISG guy was not Varenne, maybe if he wants, he will post his nick or / and maybe his experience about the party, I think he wanted privacy thats what I didn't post his nick.
About the party, yes it was again on closed door, and yes, you have to wait free room, no change since the poll which results showed gangbang, I asked about gang bang last time I was there July and August, girl replied they canceled the parties and they try new price structure, every month they had two trial days which you don't pay entrance but the each private session was 10 euro more expensive, it seems that was not that succesfull, they start again those parties. As the girls service good in the rooms, maybe they don't want jepordise their reputation on the level of service quality with the gang bangs, who knows. But me too, I prefer they do gangbangs therefore you don't have to wait and sample most of the girls in a single party day.
Yes, you should be right about dp / sandwich topic. Am not that expert of that thing, but next time, I want to try a dp, maybe double anal would be the summit of the carrier but I donno if a wg would do that? Maybe sexy susi LOL, she has a big lovely arse, BTW.
SwingerLover
12-10-12, 13:16
Yes, you should be right about dp / sandwich topic. Am not that expert of that thing, but next time, I want to try a dp, maybe double anal would be the summit of the carrier but I donno if a wg would do that? Maybe sexy susi LOL, she has a big lovely arse, BTW.Susi does pussy-DP, but I have never seen her do anal at the parties I had with her. Maybe she doesn't do anal anymore? I recall seeing some porn with her when she did anal in her younger years.
Aside from porn movies I have never seen any anal-DP. Maybe that would be something to try with Zhuzha? Or with Sexynatalie at her next bareback anal-gangbang?
Next stop zhuzha and then Villa Venus which has more or less the same concept of Grimberg but which I didn't fancy much.C2,
Why do you prefer Grimberg over Villa Venus? Is it the facility, atmosphere, quality of the girls, or level of service? Also, is there is food/snack/drinks available for a long stay?
BTW, Grimberg webpage is showing 1X50, 2X70, 3X85, and 4X99. Even though it is not flat rate, but this price structure is good enough for me.
Thanks in advance. I am planning places to visit for this weekend.
Sportsman
(wrote the report same night but forgot to post it)
On Tuesday last week I decided to attend this party. Bought an expensive flight and off to Berlin.
I had a good night but not the best. Had some problem to keep the little pecker hard for some reason.
Great lineup was advertised but unfortunately Nicky was krank. So tonight we had 'only' Aymie (AO) , Ana (safe) , Jacqueline (AO) and a swinger couple (safe).24 guys only. Ana was a perfect 10 imo and crazy for cum.
This time I was pretty late. Got the test done, straight to the shower, got my wristband, off with the clothes and just in time for ficken. John announced the party open and the girls went for the beds. Tonight the lights were a little bit dimmed and some crazy disco lights were swirling around in the studio. I thought it was better with normal lights. I like to see the girls clearly. A beautiful pussy in bright light is the biggest turn on.
Started off with a heavenly blow job from Aymie who was in a really good mood tonight. She moaned and seemed to enjoy. Two guys fucked her before me, then I wiped the cum off and entered heavens gate again. Felt like it was a long time ago. This moment is hard to describe in words. I fucking love the first minutes of a gangbang. So horny and so sensitive. I can cum just by letting a light breeze of air touch my dick. Almost. I went on for some time and it was really hard to keep myself from cumming. I took her mish and she sucked two guys at the same time. I pulled out after a while and let the other guys enter.
10 minutes break then I got another round with Aymie and at the same time, the lovely Ana showed up on the bed. Oh gosh what a lovely girl. Watching her close up being fucked by 3-4 guys was a turn on. I joined and fucked her doggy and mish. She was crazy. People were crazy tonight. Fucked like it was the end of the world and it really felt like a gangbang this time. The girls sucked on 3-4 cocks and had one in the pussy. Jacqueline was surrounded by men. I could hardly see her the first hour, but she was loud as usual. She sounds like a kitten getting nailed.
In the mishmash I managed to put my dick inside Aymie again, doggystyle. Thrusted like crazy until I could't hold myself. To the left of me Ana was getting nailed and blew a guy at the same time. Her head was just right by my leg as I was taking Aymie doggy. 'She screamed, please come in my mouth. I want sperm'. He came all over her face and I just pulled out from Aymie and sprayed my cum over her. She was covered and sucked out the residues from our dicks, she had an orgasm also. She is called the sperma königin and I understand why. She looks like a girl next door and is really really pretty. What a lucky guy I am.
10 minutes break with shower, water, some snacks and back to the scene. I looked around for a while as I wasn't ready. The swinger couple sneaked around and fucked a little bit, but just let 3-4 guys in during the whole night. I think she only had sex with 2 guys (covered). I ignored them because it's just frustrating to try to engage and get rejected. I rather not try.
Anas ass was sticking up among the men, free and inviting. I put the rubber on and thrusted away. She was a little bit too wild and we never found a good rythm. I got soft, wanked, got hard, put it back, pumped, she thrusted back, we lost syncronization, I got soft. We went on like that for a while until I gave up a little bit.
Jacqueline, was not as occupied so I went over to her bed. She was taken doggy so I just put my dick in her mouth. She was in a really good mood today. It's amazing how this little lady can take so many and so big cocks during the evening. Especially anal. One guy had a baseball bat. I'm glad that she moans even when she gets nailed by really small peckers. My average dude works perfectly fine with her.
Once Jacquelines pussy got free, I took her doggy. Felt very nice I got plenty of time to fiddle around from behind. Fast, hard, slow, soft, spread cheeks and look when the cock slide inside her all the way etc.
We changed to mish and she was really loud. Next time I will bring ear-plugs.
I was close to cumming again. Then I pulled out. Kissed her forehead and said danke. Cleaned my dick got back to the other bed, put my dick in Anas mouth, she looked at me and said 'sperma in mund'. I nodded and said 'soooon'. She sucked, I wanked, she sucked I wanked. Then came allover her face and mouth again. She swallowed every cumshot she got during the night. Right after me another man glaced her face and mouth. She took a short break and a smoke. Looked a little bit funny when she had a smoke with her boyfriend all naked with cum in her hair and face.
After this cumshot, I hovered around watching the action mostly. A lot of yummy things happened but now I'm too tired to jot down everything.
While I was watching Ana getting fucked, licked and headfucked by men over and over. I got damn horny. She's a perfectly shaped fuck doll with nice silicon tits and smooth and shiny skin. Perky little round ass and beautiful little pussy. It looks so tasty. Stood beside the bed and wanked with lube on my dick. She was close to another orgasm and screamed out for sperm and 2 dicks in her facial area. Me and another fellow jumped in, then she came, the other guy came in her mouth and right after I shot my load over her face and mouth while she was licking my balls and ass.
One guy gave Ana plenty of orgasms this evening (with his hand) and she was more than happy. She told us that she has not been able to cum for 2 years during gangbangs. Tonight something happened with her. Then she said. It's because of the guy in t-shirt who apparently was really good at fingering her and also because of me and another man who always cum in her face / mouth. Right after or before our cumshots she gets her orgasm.
Pros.
Watching John participate and fuck Aymie.
The swingergirl came with a fontaine orgasm.
Ana came several times, because of me and two other guys.
My cumshots over Ana.
When Jacqueline told me I was schööand twice during mish. Always uplifting.
Getting licked in the ass by Ana, just before I shot my load over her face.
When Ana tried 2 dicks in her pussy, unfortunately one of the guys lost his stiffness.
Ana was so happy that she blew a guy I the bar after closing time when the 'staff' were cleaning the place.
Cons.
Show offs and guys fucking the girls too long.
A guy who was like a bulldozer. He bumped into me many times and didn't even noticed or apologized. He almost pushed guys away to get pussy before other guys.
The swinger couple. I hate when the girl just let some people in. Also the male swinger always think that he has priority because he brings a useless girl. Always sneak ahead in the 'line'
Basically, the event is really top notch. The only cons are caused by participants.
Yabbadabbadoooo
SwingerLover
12-11-12, 14:47
I had a good night but not the best. Had some problem to keep the little pecker hard for some reason.Strange. I had similar problems on the same day. Must have had something to do with the lousy low-pressure weather. Nice to know that I'm not the only one who seems to have this problem.
The swinger couple sneaked around and fucked a little bit, but just let 3-4 guys in during the whole night. I think she only had sex with 2 guys (covered). I ignored them because it's just frustrating to try to engage and get rejected. I rather not try.So now they even go to gangbang-events to not participate, or at least not much. Couples like this one ruin the entire atmosphere of a party. If I were in charge of a party like that, I would kick them out!
After this cumshot, I hovered around watching the action mostly. A lot of yummy things happened but now I'm too tired to jot down everything.Looking forward to some more detailed description of those yummy things!
The swinger couple. I hate when the girl just let some people in. Also the male swinger always think that he has priority because he brings a useless girl. Always sneak ahead in the 'line'
Basically, the event is really top notch. The only cons are caused by participants.
YabbadabbadooooWiiiiilmaaaaa!
Man, that was another excellent report; I already RODed it. Reading it makes me almost feel like having been there myself. The only disturbing thing was the swinger couple. If they don't want to completely go along with the motto in full, then they should stay the fuck away from there! Anyway, your detailed description made for some highly enjoyable reading again. I particularly liked the part when Ana went for a smoke, still covered in cum. So that means she did not only not wash, but not even wipe it off with some paper. I suppose she got back to the action like this too? Very nice little kinky pig, too bad about the rubbers.
So Yabbadabbadoooo indeed!
C2,
Why do you prefer Grimberg over Villa Venus? Is it the facility, atmosphere, quality of the girls, or level of service? Also, is there is food / snack / drinks available for a long stay?
BTW, Grimberg webpage is showing 1X50, 2X70, 3X85, and 4X99. Even though it is not flat rate, but this price structure is good enough for me.
Thanks in advance. I am planning places to visit for this weekend.
SportsmanHi Sportsman,
The only reason I choose Grimberg is the line up, grimberg girls is better on look dept compared to Villa Venus girls. At least there are more fake blonds in Grimberg. Venus girls are darker but still you may find good ones and taste are different, everybody has its own.
The are no real food in Grimberg on day time, only a sort of soup. But plenty of snacks, fruit and self serviced soft drinks, in Villa Venus, when I reached there, all was run out near midnight.
The web page is not updated for some time, the current price structure is as follows 55, 85, 110 euro. When you but first shot, you may pay to girls directly 30 euro but not much punter know it, I believe this is wiser if you decide after checking whole line up weather to stay or to leave.
Hope this answer is not that late, because I know you will have an overseas flight.
Cheerrs and have fun in nrw.
Thanks for the reply C2. I might try both of them this weekend if I have a chance to.
This Venus report has lost again once so I have to redo it but somewhat shorter. After Grimberg and Zhuzha event, I call it a night at Villa Venus.
This place Venus has normally the same price structure as Grimberg, so 1 x 55, 2 x 85, 3 x 110 euro. But when I went on Saturday night, the Romanian wg girl which is on theke for replacement, told me that night, there is not enough girl so they change the price. Entrance is 30 euro and one session with a girl is 30 euro. This session duration is half an hour and include all possible extras such as DFK, CiM, maybe anal, maybe swallowing (depending on the girl). There is pictures of each girl at the bar area showing the extra service she does.
Although the theke girl told me there is not enough girl, there were at least 17 girls in the house. So, I assume there is twice more girl on other days. the majority of the girls are from Bulgaria but there are still some Romanians. Most of the line up are dark brunettes and range from 5 to 7 (just a few seven and mostly 6 in my book). Found a blond Roomy named Laura, decent look, decent English and went to room with her. even BBBJ not good and quite short, good attitude and i enjoyed DFK of her. At the beginning of the session, i started with AO but i had too much friction and arousel, thats why i switched to condom. Still i was close and cant hold it much and released the load into the condom.
For my taste, Grimberg beats Venus in terms of the look of the girls (An AO expert that i met in Angelique believe quite the contrary) even there are more girls in Venus. The girls are mostly blond (even fake) in Grimberg where dark girls in Venus. There were no snacks, nor food in Venus at midnight, or they run out easily. Even coffee milk and coffee run out. On the other hand, there were some soup and some snacks in Grimberg. Soft drinks are self serviced in both clubs. I believe both Grimberg and Venus have nowadays good offer for AO lovers, 30 Euro all inclusive service is really a bargain when you normally pay 20 or 30 Euro for AO, and plus DFK and CiM comes as inclusive , with it. If in the future, if i do some trips to NRW, i might consider this Grimberg for a repeat visit.
AColonizer
12-14-12, 15:58
It is interesting what is happening in Villa Venus. I wish all German FKKs understand it is stupid to cheat customers with fake sex. But the good hasn't come yet. For example, it doesn't make sense a bareback blowjob with no spray into throat, and bareback anal should be always a must. I have no problem with medical certificate and dress code, and I want the same respect by sex providers. If there is no respect, then I have no problem to avoid all bitches in the world. One of the most hardcore prostitute in the world said to me it is more "male" a good handjob than a money waste with girls. Moreover I am not fetishist of moaning and facial at all. Or better, fake moaning to avoid multiple positions, and handjob on face to avoid sperm swallowing: they are the usual bitches' tricks!
AColonizer
12-14-12, 16:11
The last but not least, I see girls' pictures in on-line FKKs, those FKKs that publish real pictures of sex providers in their premises, and I see 90% of them are Romanian, Turkish, Indian or something else with mulatto skin, black hair and dark eyes. I would go to Germany only to be a perverted with Nordic-type girls, and it doesn't make sense to meet a different phenotype, otherwise I would go to Romania, Turkey or India for something else at lower prices.
otherwise I would go to Romania, Turkey or India for something else at lower prices.
i agree and echo your opinion about dark typ eastern girls but on the other hand, I doubt you may find lower prices at those venues unless you have local knowkedge or a trusty local guide.
AColonizer
12-15-12, 00:47
I am not interested in Middle East / Asian girls at all. I want German / Polish / Hungarian / Czech girls to fuck in Germany.
i agree and echo your opinion about dark typ eastern girls but on the other hand, I doubt you may find lower prices at those venues unless you have local knowkedge or a trusty local guide.
I am not interested in Middle East / Asian girls at all. I want German / Polish / Hungarian / Czech girls to fuck in Germany.So, we have common taste.
Nowadays, they are easier to find them in private houses and small clubs rather then big FKKs. FKK Atmos and Artemis reported once with majority of Baltic girls, Artemis is now invaded by eastern girls, though. Oase and Palace has randomly that combination of Chezh, Hungarian, Polish and German girls, too, altogether with Romys.
As Creature says the price structure seems to vary all the time, so check on its website for the current.
I went a few days ago early in the day and there were about 20 girls, and only a couple of meat rolls. The girls tend to sit around on sofas waiting to be approached.
I went with Aida (2x) as she does (covered) anal (no extra charge) and Rebecca (simply because I was in a hurry to leave). Aida provided a really good session, kissing etc, and was way above what I expected. No hurry to end the sessions. Rebecca was simply great fun (but no great looker).
The girls are largely darker skinned Romanian. Maybe not the best looking, but way above, say, Dolce Vita (Raubach) on this day
Overall it was excellent. 3 sessions for 119Euro (including anal if you choose the right girl).
SwingerLover
12-16-12, 15:33
So, we have common taste.
I am not interested in Middle East / Asian girls at all. I want German / Polish / Hungarian / Czech girls to fuck in Germany.Maybe both of you should give Eva-Freundin in Mönchengladbach-Odenkirchen at try. At yesterday's party (where we had a little ISG-members meeting with Sportsman, Neurosynth and Dark Vader also having been there) all six women were either Polish, german or originally ukrainian, with all of them living in Germany for a long time, judging from the language skills. Report about the party to follow in the Eva-Freundin thread.
Aside from the only 2 parties they usually hold per month, it's a pay per session place with currently also offering '3x fun for 120 Euros' on Tuesdays and non-party-Fridays. www.eva-freundin.de www.eves-diamonds.de
AColonizer
12-16-12, 15:42
Thanks for help. I don't know if they are good venues for me, but I thank you very much. And sorry for some raw comments of mine, you know, prostitution is one of the most fierce business in the world.
Maybe both of you should give Eva-Freundin in Mönchengladbach-Odenkirchen at try. At yesterday's party (where we had a little ISG-members meeting with Sportsman, Neurosynth and Dark Vader also having been there) all six women were either Polish, german or originally ukrainian, with all of them living in Germany for a long time, judging from the language skills. Report about the party to follow in the Eva-Freundin thread.
Aside from the only 2 parties they usually hold per month, it's a pay per session place with currently also offering '3x fun for 120 Euros' on Tuesdays and non-party-Fridays.
www.eva-freundin.de
www.eves-diamonds.de
Vito Corleone
12-20-12, 04:59
this venus report has lost again once so i have to redo it but somewhat shorter. after grimberg and zhuzha event, i call it a night at villa venus.
this place venus has normally the same price structure as grimberg, so 1 x 55, 2 x 85, 3 x 110 euro. but when i went on saturday night, the romanian wg girl which is on theke for replacement, told me that night, there is not enough girl so they change the price. entrance is 30 euro and one session with a girl is 30 euro. this session duration is half an hour and include all possible extras such as dfk, cim, maybe anal, maybe swallowing (depending on the girl). there is pictures of each girl at the bar area showing the extra service she does.
for my taste, grimberg beats venus in terms of the look of the girls (an ao expert that i met in angelique believe quite the contrary) even there are more girls in venus. the girls are mostly blond (even fake) in grimberg where dark girls in venus. there were no snacks, nor food in venus at midnight, or they run out easily. even coffee milk and coffee run out. on the other hand, there were some soup and some snacks in grimberg. soft drinks are self serviced in both clubs. i believe both grimberg and venus have nowadays good offer for ao lovers. 30 euro all inclusive service is really a bargain when you normally pay 20 or 30 euro for ao, and plus dfk and cim comes as inclusive, with it. if in the future, if i do some trips to nrw, i might consider this grimberg for a repeat visit.what's up creature,
it was nice meeting you at the all inclusive party in angelique. great sharing stories & info & lots of fun with the girls!
i visited grimberg once & only alice was my type. only downside is she can get emotional & somewhat difficult. always a good session, but i prefer to avoid the emotional stuff. also, some of the girlsatgrim were just too fat, thick or big boned for my tastes.
i visited venus 8-9 (lost count) times during my trip & the lineup never surpassed 20. this club can have up to 6-7 different girls working the next day. very diverse lineup, but mostly darker gypsy looking babes. i have a few favs i session with (all lighter skin) & did not bother with the rest. i never experienced any price changes which included a sat night the week before you visited. the night you visited venus, i was getting raped by some hot babes in gt. barbara is usually at reception mon-fri & the big titty retard with glasses who moonlightsatgrimberg & arabella is usually there on weekends. not sure why a romy working girl would be allowed to run the reception area.
food, grim does offer soup, fruits, chocolate & some bread with coldcuts. venus provides bread, cookies, cake, fruits & some nasty long reddish sausage that tastes like purified [CodeWord113] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord113). big difference is the large tray of pizza delivered in the afternoon. the pizza shop next door delivers by entering through the back door.
i have only started to visit venus once they offered their 3x110 in the summer (some favs moving there) , but visited ara & grim many times. venus seems to always have many customers compared to the other 2. must have run out of the red [CodeWord113] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord113) & coffee.
anyway, i look forward to hooking up again.
Vito Corleone
12-20-12, 05:31
The place was crowded. I arrived about 15 minutes early & there were 3 guys already there ready to fuck. Wait for rooms was minimal late morning early afternoon, but became much longer towards the evening. Kathy was the most popular girl. After my first session with her, I think I had to wait 5 hours to bang her again.
Chubby girls name is Madi. That Cassandra chick was looking at you with those desparate almost begging looks pitbulls give when food is near. I do not think she had more than 5 sessions all day. I remember her always sitting around hoping someone would pick her.
I was very happy you tried BB & came fast as I did not have to wait long for the room with shower. I think your shower lasted longer LOL!
I agree Alina has the prettiest face & eyes, but Ruby & Kathi have the best bods (def my type).
Vito Corleone
12-20-12, 05:58
Day two my plan was to hit FKK Arabella, based on Myrrs report of Bryanna and Mikela. I took the DB and taxi (about 20 euro total from Dusseldorf) , I was met at the door by a cute spinner brunette who disappeared as soon as I walked in the door. I was then greeted by a tall older (about 50?) blonde who promptly told me this club "is for German men only", no Turkish allowed. WTF? I am not Turkish! I tried to explain I was from America. But she would not hear it. Her voice was something like a tuba, pretty deep. She went on to say "EF-KA-KA" clubs are for "Germans" only, you go to Eros Center "Red Light" its ok, here no.I am surprised they did not let you enter. I have been to Grim, Ara & Venus many times & there are plenty of Turkish customers. Only a few in Grim & Ara, but plenty in Venus. I have also seen some Dutch, French & Belgian men. These clubs are owned by a group of mostly Turkish men & a few Germans. I visited the place once during my recent trip & you were not missing much. No girls that can compare to Isabella & Candy. I looked at the lineup & kind of pretended I only had credit cards & need to leave to get cash. Headed straight to Venus.
I am not German, Dutch, French, Bel or Turk nor do I look like or can pass as one. I never had any problems entering these clubs.
You may not feel comfortable answering this question, but are you an African American or of Indian descent? I have never seen a black man or Indian man in these clubs. That might be the reason. I would suggest avoiding GT as well.
I have seen all kinds of colors at Luna & that club is so dead they cannot afford to turn anyone away. At least you had a great time there.
Dark Vader
12-20-12, 17:54
I am surprised they did not let you enter. I have been to Grim, Ara & Venus many times & there are plenty of Turkish customers.
You may not feel comfortable answering this question, but are you an African American or of Indian descent? I have never seen a black man or Indian man in these clubs. That might be the reason. I would suggest avoiding GT as well.I'm black and have had visited Grim once and Arabella many times without problems I have also seen Turkish guys at both clubs. Not made it to Venus as yet.
You're right that GT is well known for being discriminatory and I've tended to avoid the place for exactly that reason.
SwingerLover
12-21-12, 03:31
After the not quite so good first gangbang with Gerti in Kerpen-Brüggen nearly a couple of weeks back, I gave it a try with her again. This time the gangbang was held at their home, an apartment in Bergisch-Gladbach near Köln. Much better location than last time in Kerpen-Brüggen, no fuzzing carpets and cosy warm. Very private though. All action took place in the living room, on and in front of the couch. In all there must have been around 10 guys there, including myself and my fuck-buddy from Hessen whom I know from BareBackKreis-parties. There were never more than 7 guys there at once, most of them stayed for only an hour or two. I was there from 17:15-23:00, fuck-buddy too, only that he arrived a little later.
What went down there was just great. Almost anything you could wish for at an AO Gangbang, quite a little AO Bukkake and creampie slugfest. When the 5th guy arrived, Gerti started with giving blowjobs to the guys sitting on the couch. After a while, the first guy started to fuck her. (With a rubber no less.) When he had filled his Gummi, I took over. (Bareback of course.) She was a bit far down, kneeling in front of the couch, so I accidently stuck my dick into the ass instead of the pussy. Well, no problem. So I started the banging with an assfuck today. Then I let fuck-buddy take over, who first creampied the pussy. After a few more guys fucked her, we were all standing around her while she was giving hand- and blowjobs. And some very deep deepthroat to one of the guys, she put it completely it, nearly swallowed it. Next, she sat on the couch and one of the guys decorated her tits with his sperm. While I was fucking her pussy, another one shot his load into her mouth. She didn't swallow, but let it drool out over her chin and onto her tits. I creampied her pussy.
So far so good. Then, much to my enjoyment, I realized that she wasn't going to go for a wash again. She only wiped off the cum from her chin, so it wouldn't interfere with smoking a cigarette. Everything else stayed on, the cum in the pussy and the big loads of sperm on her tits as well. During the break the sperm dried on on her tits, throat and belly and wherever it had landed.
In the 2nd round, more cum was shot into her pussy, so on to some more heavy duty Schlammschieben. You could really hear it gurgle inside her while I was banging her pussy, doing some creamwhipping before I added my 2nd load to the mix. Before that, two guys had tried to sandwich her, both with rubbers, but didn't quite get it to work for any length of time. Later in the evening, when only 3 of us guys were left, I suggested to try another sandwich. I laid down on the floor, she got on top of me and the other guy entered her ass. That sandwich was quite okay, could have gone on even longer for my taste, but the other guy stopped after a minute or so. So back to some more in-mish-fucking on the floor and on the couch. The sandwich partner had shot another load onto her tits, during fucking her I was groping and massaging her left tit, smearing the cum all over it. Some nice kinky splashing-about in the other guys' cum on her tits while I was banging her until I came a third time. It was now only shortly after 20:00. The third guy left and now fuck-buddy and I were alone with Gerti and her hubby (Who didn't parttake by the way.) for the rest of the evening.
We talked for about an hour, then fuck-buddy had some more urge for another bang. Watching them made me horny again too, so when he was done, I banged away on her some more for quite a while and pretty wild and intense. I was sweating like crazy and eventually had to stop due to exhaustion. I finally took a shower, then we talked some more, had very nice conversations and a pleasant chill-out-time until 23:00. Three more guys had announced their presence from around 22:00, but were no-shows; so we had a cosy conclusion of what was a pretty smutty, dirty AO gangbang.
Gerti is just great! Finally somebody again who is into some dirty action and doesn't run for a shower after every or every 2nd guy. One clean-up wash suffices for the entire evening. With her, one can have a real gangbang for a change. Of course she's not everybody's cup of tea. People who are hung up on looks or don't want to fuck beyond a certain age will just have to stay away from her. Anybody who avoided Sabine at Spermagames or doesn't like Angelina or ol' Vicky at Gahlingspfad in Krefeld would certainly be at the wrong adress with Gerti too. For those who don't mind the age or the looks, she's an event in herself. Despite the long drive (2 and a half hours due to traffic jam and two hours back home) I will definitely go back for another AO Gangbang with her sometime!
SwingLove, I have ROD'd this report and an earlier one from Eva F.
Here is my own cumpilation from these two reports:
'The first one filled her up with so much cum, that her pussy overflew already. She was creampied that much that she could 'almost swim away'. The cum dripping out of her pussy and surrounding it was as shiny white as whipped cream. I was banging her from behind whipping the cream inside her pussy along with the other guy. I finally came again and shot my second load into the pussy with the other guy's dick still in it. Then I made room for the next guys who in turn took over DPing and creampieing her. '
'During the break the sperm dried on on her tits, throat and belly and wherever it had landed. In the 2nd round, more cum was shot into her pussy. You could really hear it gurgle inside her while I was banging her pussy, doing some creamwhipping before I added my 2nd load to the mix'
SwingerLover
12-22-12, 14:22
As Myrrh so eloquently put it in the ROD-thread: They are no avarage pornstars, ergo: A gangbang like that is better than your avarage pornflic-shooting. And you can choose your own angle from which to watch the action during a break too.
But I guess a movie shoot with Sexy-Susi or Melanie Moon (without anal) or Sexynatalie should come close to the off-the-script-action I experienced at Eva's and with Gerti too. Some Spermagames-parties when they still were in Reichelsheim and some BareBackKreis-parties were equally as dirty, some also with creampied DPs and sandwiches. And I supposed some Gangbang01-events should be like that too.
I am surprised they did not let you enter. I have been to Grim, Ara & Venus many times & there are plenty of Turkish customers. Only a few in Grim & Ara, but plenty in Venus. I have also seen some Dutch, French & Belgian men. These clubs are owned by a group of mostly Turkish men & a few Germans. I visited the place once during my recent trip & you were not missing much. No girls that can compare to Isabella & Candy. I looked at the lineup & kind of pretended I only had credit cards & need to leave to get cash. Headed straight to Venus.
I am not German, Dutch, French, Bel or Turk nor do I look like or can pass as one. I never had any problems entering these clubs.
You may not feel comfortable answering this question, but are you an African American or of Indian descent? I have never seen a black man or Indian man in these clubs. That might be the reason. I would suggest avoiding GT as well.
I have seen all kinds of colorsatLuna & that club is so dead they cannot afford to turn anyone away. At least you had a great time there.I am Armenian on dads side, Canadian on Moms side. Often though people think I am Italian. Infact one guy at a local bar thinks I'm in the mafia.
Swingerlover might have much knowledge answer this question. This question is purely for practical purpose.
There is advertisement.
http://www.nrwerotik.com/index2.htm
The description is:
Bitte nur Mitteleuropäer.
What is exactly mean? I guess is that only European with light skin? People with dark skin from south Europe, such as Spain, Italian, maybe south France is not qualified for Mitteleuropäer thus the party?
Some advertisement said " no südländer". What is exactly mean? It mean no turkish only, or including Italian and Spanish, black, asian?
In the news, I guess südländer normally implies Turkish.
SwingerLover
12-25-12, 18:59
Bitte nur Mitteleuropäer.
What is exactly mean? I guess is that only European with light skin? People with dark skin from south Europe, such as Spain, Italian, maybe south France is not qualified for Mitteleuropäer thus the party?
Some advertisement said " no südländer". What is exactly mean? It mean no turkish only, or including Italian and Spanish, black, asian?
In the news, I guess südländer normally implies Turkish.Bitte nur Mitteleuropäer = Only central europeans please.
Südländer = Southerners; Mediterraneans.
If you take it literally, it should apply to spanish, italian or greek guys too. I believe it's mostly aimed at turkish and arabian (including maghrebinian) guys, because of the attitude they display when they appear at a party or in a club in pairs or groups. I witnessed this myself more than once. If five turkish guys are there who don't know each other and come to a party seperately, everything is fine. If two turkish buddies go there together, they wreck every party. No exceptions! That's why some places don't let any turks, arabs or someone looking like that in at all. Unfortunately the good guys are subject to this treatment as well.
I don't think blacks, indians, japanese or Latinos will have any problems getting in, even if it says "Only central europeans" or "No Mediterraneans". Can't speak for every club or party and don't know for sure. But I've never seen any trouble coming from a bunch of whoever, except turkish and arabs as stated above. So why should they disallow italians or brazilians? I think they write "Only CEs" or "No MEDs" because if they would write "No turks" or "No muslims" they some hyppocratic pseudo-political-correctness leftwing assholes would use that to excercise their We-are-all-equal-nonsense on the place. So in best Orwell-newspeak manner, the clubs don't single out what they don't want and write "Only central europeans" instead, to be more politically 'correct'.
HectorSanchez
12-25-12, 19:31
I just want to know this before I make a big trip to europe.
My friend is an indian 29 yr old and wants to monger with me. He wants to join me to europe mainly germany. He is worried about being not treated well and possibly no entry to a few clubs. He is young and good looking.
But I heard that indians are not well respected in europe and Thailand. No disresepct to them. I myself have indian heritage as well. We just don't want to make a great plan not knowing the true picture there.
In mexico, indians are treated great mostly because indians living in america are rich and well mannered.
I am surprised they did not let you enter. I have been to Grim, Ara & Venus many times & there are plenty of Turkish customers. Only a few in Grim & Ara, but plenty in Venus. I have also seen some Dutch, French & Belgian men. These clubs are owned by a group of mostly Turkish men & a few Germans. I visited the place once during my recent trip & you were not missing much. No girls that can compare to Isabella & Candy. I looked at the lineup & kind of pretended I only had credit cards & need to leave to get cash. Headed straight to Venus.
I am not German, Dutch, French, Bel or Turk nor do I look like or can pass as one. I never had any problems entering these clubs.
You may not feel comfortable answering this question, but are you an African American or of Indian descent? I have never seen a black man or Indian man in these clubs. That might be the reason. I would suggest avoiding GT as well.
I have seen all kinds of colorsatLuna & that club is so dead they cannot afford to turn anyone away. At least you had a great time there.
SwingerLover
12-25-12, 20:11
But I heard that indians are not well respected in europe and Thailand. No disresepct to them. I myself have indian heritage as well. We just don't want to make a great plan not knowing the true picture there.As I posted just below your report, I don't think you will have much of a problem at the AO places. I had met two indians before, one at Spermagames and one at Alte Linner Straße 7 in Krefeld. I didn't notice any problems. So you should be fine. Of course I can't speak for clubs I haven't been to. Check out my AO map and the Bareback AO Party Calendar thread for options.
Vito Corleone
12-27-12, 23:15
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I went over their website and their topicatfreiercafe and haven' found any mentioning about their FKK day (all girls are naked). Does anybody know do they have FKK day now? Which day?
Thanks.
JYM
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Dark Vader
01-07-13, 22:05
Maybe if you read some of the earlier posts, you would have noticed Dark Vader was not allowed entry to Arabella. Later, Dark Vader mentions someoneata local bar said he looked like a mafia member. All I did was suggest that could be the reason why he was not allowed entry to Arabella! So it was not a waste & I was on the subject.I think you're mistaking me with DFWdude. I've never been denied entry at Arabella and anyone who could mistake me for mafiosa needs to go see their optician.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3215-Bareback-AO (Alles-Ohne). Flat-Rate-Clubs-Parties-and-Events&p=1353233&viewfull=1#post1353233
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3215-Bareback-AO (Alles-Ohne). Flat-Rate-Clubs-Parties-and-Events&p=1363664&viewfull=1#post1363664
I just wrote a report on my recent experiences of Duisburg Vulkanstrasse, seems to be alot more AO being offered now.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3407-Duisburg&p=1371749&viewfull=1#post1371749
I will be in Germany in a couple of weeks on my way to Angeles. I want to try an AO club but was wondering if STD tests are done on the girls. I certainly don't want to bring something home with me. Anyone caught anything at one of these clubs?
Thanks
SwingerLover
01-13-13, 13:56
I will be in Germany in a couple of weeks on my way to Angeles. I want to try an AO club but was wondering if STD tests are done on the girls. I certainly don't want to bring something home with me. Anyone caught anything at one of these clubs?Well, I caught a cold several times at AO-parties. Apart from that, everything was fine healthwise.
I know that "Bad Girls" in Krefeld get regularly tested every few weeks. About others, I can't say for sure. Some demand HIV-testing for their parties, most even provide quicktests on-site. Have a look at my AO-party-maps, every party with a dotted marker requires an HIV-test: http://goo.gl/maps/DzNS7
Spermagames also do a syph-test on-site. www.spermagames.com
Ras1599. Reading German forums it is clear that sometimes people pick up infections (STDs) but it seems to be relatively rare.
You need to make up your mind if you are willing to run a 1 in 100 (or 1 in 200 or 1 in 300 etc) possibility of picking up an infection. If you live alone at home then maybe getting an infection is no major problem. If you have a wife who does not know of your hobby then maybe the risk is too high.
What is clear is that STDs are NOT endemic amongst the workers. Exact statistics are impossible to ascertain.
I don't know why so few posts dedicated to that well known AO club.
Today I was pleasantly surprised by lineup, service, and atmosphere in Vila Venus. First tame I was there last summer. Lineup was depressing, service poor.
Today I arrived at about 9:30 PM, which is too late. Opted three rooms at 110€.
Lineup was way better than in summer. About 15-20 girls in total. At least half of them could survive in major FKK. But problem with verbal skills. The youngest and prettiest girls do not speak English and I assume German is not much better. I could clearly see two about equal groups: Bulgarian and Romanian. They stick together and chat in their own languages.
First girls Bulgarian Luci. Young, cute face, body is far away from model standards but youthful tight and silky skin. Vary basic English, but we perfectly did without. It was not truly GFE but pleasant AO session. DFK, BBBJ, DATY, AO light. No DIGITS, no GREEK.
Second girl. Romanian Natalia. Surprisingly she speaks bearable English. Not good enough to animate mongers in FKK but good enough for basic communication. She worked before in Villa Marisol, Amnesia, Salome, and Penelope. Even tried a couple of weeks in VV, but said that competition is too strong. Visually she is FKK standard girl, with cute face and perfect body. Truly GFE session DFK, BBBJ, DATY, DIGITS, AO cum inside. No GREEK. Real orgasm from DATY+Digits.
Could not make third session because too late. But no regrets. 110€ for two AO passionate sessions is still bargain. Yesterday I spent 180€ in Dunkel-Viersen (Angelique). Next report.
It was Tuesday special. Entrance = 20€; 1 hr AO = 100 € (two shots allowed, what I eventually did) ; ½ hr AO = 80€ (one shot).
Two sessions with both best-looking girls: Alina (1 hr. 2 shots) and Alica (1/2 hr). It was my first time in Angelique and I would say this is the best AO service I ever get. Both sessions were truly GFE with passionate DFK, DIGIRS, DATY, BBBJ, AO cum inside. Showers separately but I am sure if I propose they would share shower with me.
Girls run that business and they really care. Cozy warm atmosphere, but definitely not for whole day.
I will be in Germany in a couple of weeks on my way to Angeles. I want to try an AO club but was wondering if STD tests are done on the girls. I certainly don't want to bring something home with me. Anyone caught anything at one of these clubs?
ThanksI already wrote about this product while ago. This is my second post.
Look here: http://www.miramistin.ru/infamed-eng/miramistin-antiseptik
It is available on-line to buy.
I always use it. It doesn't burn, it doesn't smell. Convenient package. Don't worry it is made it Russia. It works.
I already wrote about this product while ago. This is my second post.
Look here:
http://www.miramistin.ru/infamed-eng/miramistin-antiseptik
It is available on-line to buy.
I always use it. It doesn't burn, it doesn't smell. Convenient package. Don't worry it is made it Russia. It works.Can you recommend a reputable site to buy it from, also how do you use it. Do you apply it to your genitals before sex or after. What about oral sex. Is it topical only or do you take it orally.
Seems like a useful product if it works.
(http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) bee; 1374293]can you recommend a reputable site to buy it from, also how do you use it. do you apply it to your genitals before sex or after. what about oral sex. is it topical only or do you take it orally.
seems like a useful product if it works.sorry i cannot. i travel to russia / ukraine 5-6 times per year and buy it in local drugstores.
quick search shows that it is available via amazon: http://www.amazon.com/infamed-miramistin-50-ml/dp/b003kwekqu
it is about three time more expensive than you can by in russian drugstore, but still cheaper than go to russia for that.
this is squisable bottle with narrow tip. you can inject it into your urethra and spray over you penis head. it is recommended to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) and wash your penis before use. i use it after ao only. however it can be used after bbbj as well.
it is recommended to use it no later than 40 min after ao intercourse. but the sooner the better.
btw after all my ao sessions before to go to the bed i also apply over my dick head canestin cream. yes - it is female anti-yeast product, but it protects against possible fungal infection while miramistin effective against bacterial and viral. canestin can be replaced with clotrimazole - the same active ingredient.
Dasisextra
01-26-13, 01:08
Just back from first visit to V V, this is the best bareback club I have been too. Nice size club, very welcoming, clean, and most importantly line up and cost per session second to non, €110 for 3x30mins everything bare. Talent for all tastes, young and thin, to chunky and milfish. A large line up for a BB club, much better then the normal 4/7 girls. Had sessions with Cass, Ell & Memory gone blank. Would repeat with all.
I know, I know. Freiercafe has a thread dedicated to Villa Venus. I am sure we need threads for Villa Venus and Angelique as they are best AO providers.
Just shutting down my laptop and going there right now. It was in my to-do list.
BrooklynNY
01-28-13, 00:40
How many flat rate clubs are in the DDorf area? Which are good and which should be avoided?
I was in Villa Venus last Friday. Such a pleasant surprise. 18-20 girls. At leas 8 of them visually FKK standard girls! I am sure they are here because of lack of communication skills. I am not talking about language skills. Some Romanian girls speak bearable English. They just cannot maintain conversation. Had three sessions:
1. Ella. Blond heavy Bulgarian. English but some Russian. Plain AO session but with AO anal. I went with her knowing that first AO session does not last long. Five minutes of frictions into asshole and CIA.
2. Alina. Petite Rimanian. FKK standard appearance both face and body. Good English. Real GFE session. AO no anal. I am not sure AO lite or CIP because could not cum (too many girls within this tour). One of the best AO sessions ever after Alica and AlinaatAngelique.
3. Natalia. Slim Romanian. FKK standard body and pretty face. Bearable English. I already sessioned with her a week ago. Good GFE AO session with AO Anal and CIA. She used lubricant for anal only. Pussy was naturally wet.
And I paid for that 110 Euros. Still cannot believe that it was real. Looks more like a dream.
SwingerLover
01-29-13, 12:59
Usually I'm opposed to go to an over-100€-party where I have to pay extra for drinks. But instead of going to the O-Bar in Heilbronn tomorrow, which would have cost me 32 € MORE on gas money, I thought it might be cheaper to pay for a few drinks and drove to Swingerclub Traumpalais in Heidesheim-on-Rhine (near Mainz) for the AO-Gangbang with Sexy-Susi & Sunny Hill. After the fairly uncommonly short drive of only 45 minutes, I arrived a little after 14:00, paid the 99 € entrance fee (They actually returned the 1 € change!) and went inside to Susi's doctor-husband to have the HIV-tests done for the usual 20 €. Then I got undressed and hit the showers.
Since I was inside this club for the first time and don't recall any reports about this place on ISG, a description of the location would be in order. I'll do that in a seperate report in the "Other Swingerclubs" thread later.
Not that many guys were there. I didn't keep overall count, but at the peak, there were no more than 8 guys on the playground at the same time. So for all those guys that wrote about wanting a not so crowded gangbang and even pay more to have less men (I believe MrKnowitall and SooNice were among them.) this would have been it! Susi had told me that this was the 4th party in this place within a week, so maybe that's why it was a little slow. (Most guys seem to have been at the Saskia-Farell-party last week.)
So when the first seven or so guys were there, we all went upstairs to start the gangbanging. Both women started giving BBBJs and handjobs left and right, then the fucking commenced. Most guys went for Sunny Hill first, propably because it was her first time at this place too and she was new to everybody, including me. I went for Susi first after a while of sucking & jerking and started to fuck her doggy for a while, then I switched to Sunny when she became available.
Susi was as sweet as usual, chattering was well within limits, fucking and sucking and groping as good as usual. Sunny was quite something. If you hurry, you can see pictures of her for tomorrow's gangbang in Heilbronn on Susi's website under "Orgien". She used to be a ballet dancer, nowdays she does kickboxing for sports. Very limber, very fit, pretty tall, smooth skin, unfortunately fake tits, but about some of the best-done ones I've ever encountered. Banging her was pretty much a sensation in itself. If you have the opportunity to go to their gangbang in Heilbronn tomorrow (JAN 30th) I suggest you use it!
I was banging both of them doggy and in mish, got some cowgirling from Susi too, as well as a lot of BBBJ. I banged Sunny more than Susi and all three times I came, it was inside Sunny's pussy. Sorry, no Sperma for Susi from me this time. Since there were so few guys there, one could take his time and got to fuck as often as possible. I only mananged to get two drinks during the only two breaks. So my extra cost for beverages was only 5 € because I was too busy fucking & watching. Food was only some snack treats, like chips and stuff, some fruit, some cake. Nothing fancy, but sufficient. Especially for me; if I had been too busy fucking to get more than 2 drinks, you can imagine that there was not much time to eat something either.
Us last three guys were upstairs with the two women until 20:00, when the Doc came upstairs and called it the day. I was exhausted anyway. So we hit the showers again, got dressed, payed our drinks, I got my written test-result from the Doc and after kiss-kiss goodbye, I left at 20:20 and was at home shortly after 21:00, being somewhat confused about the short drive. But due to that, the entire thing had cost me less than 150 €, everything included, even the gas money for what was a very nice little gangbang party. Seems as if I have to pay more attention to this club in the future. Susi will be back there in early March. www.sexy-susi.info/Seite5n.php www.swingerclub-traumpalais.com/
Friday.
FKK Arabella.
The beginning and build up to the visit to Arabella is called 'Bochum. From the pits of despair at one club to the highs of another' in the PC Bochum thread.
After a meal got to the club around 19. 30 after taking the 302 tram and getting off at the stop 'Lohrheidestr' I was soaked again from another sudden heavy rain downpour on the way to the club. So I set finally into the warmth of a club to end a crazy day.
A 40's blond welcomed me at the main door after going through the big gate. The manageress guided me to the counter where the prices of 1x 60 euros 2x 90 euros and 3x 110 euros are displayed. She is muttering away so I asked if she speaks English, she calls a girl over who does speak it a little. This appearance gave me a big shock and I had to do a double take because the tall slim gal was the spitting image of the actress Saffron Burrows! I mean I have seen some doubles in my time but I found it hard to make the difference between her and a young version of Saffron. In particular of the way she had her hair it reminded me of the appearance in the film 'Gangster No1'
I hand over the 110 euros and get a key and ring with a little piece of paper with the price notes then go for a shower. Wearing a t-shirt and big towel go into the lounge get a coke from the self-help machine and look around. See there is three TV screens each showing a different porn film. Carpets and nice comfy chairs give the place a homely extended living room feeling.
By 20. 15 decide to have the first session. Noticed a lovely little young bleach blond with sparkling eyes sitting near the porn TV looking over. Could see she must be around 18 to 20 years old, looks German or Polish. After a short chat and because of lack of English we go to the room. After entering this room straight into kissing for quite some time, this gal loves kissing deep! She has such a sweet little face and felt I had to be delicate handling her. It was like being 21 years old again and all the aches and pains of my age just subsided away. Then into a long missionary with again kissing then I tried with her back to me, holding her bottom. Back to missionary and a long nice come and roar, she had to slightly hold me back as I was going a bit hard at that point after the first few drops. Lay on the bed in a happy gaze. A wonderful no rush session with a teeny looking girl. Looking at her name written on the key it said something like Stefeni as it was badly scribbled down.
The next session was because I could not stop looking at a nice shapely bottom wiggling around the room. It was a tall slim light skinned black girl perhaps late twenties, looks like a French type with her soft dread locked hair. Go to the same room again and straight down to more deep French kissing! This went on for ages as I kiss her over her neck and face etc. We get down to business but she produces a condom, asked about it as I thought it is AO but she says sorry only condom. So down to missionary then I had to finish doing her arse after all that snooping at it earlier. Whilst in doggy she is sticking her tongue out so I lean over and we just about do the deep kissing while I am shagging. When I get back to being upright and holding her bottom, it finished in a big roar and come, a nice session again in this club, not rushed etc. She strokes my body up and down for a while, I think am not sure that her name is Sarah but she did say is from the Dominica republic.
After this session I take another look at the photos of the girls at the counter and see that Sarah does not have the word 'Alles' by her name so this means AO after all! Only downside is the arrangement of the girl's photos, which are badly lighted, and there are hand written notes of their names and services. These notes are not clearly written as the same of the names on the small paper on the key ring. I say there were on the day about four or five girls doing AO the other five has the word not sure but its either speziellen or Spezialität by their names whatever that means if not the main extras etc.
Had a few times in the sauna and sort of avoiding one or two advances from girls who were not my type. This is the problem for myself in a small FKK type place is avoiding certain girls!
Around 21. 50 an older guy goes with slinky Saffron to the ground floor room through the saloon doors. I thought I wait a while mooching on the settee next to those doors and hope to recreate a dream I had of fucking her in that gangster film. Plus she offers AO and Anal. Waited and waited then walked around downstairs had a slow shower then back up but no sign of her by 22. 35pm was thinking blimey this geezer is getting a good long session with her. Went back to the main lounge and could see I was now the last guy standing. Ah well perhaps that dream will have to wait someday.
Blond sweetheart Stefeni approaches me and asks to go to the room as she sees I have one more session left on the key paper. I also sense that the girls want to wrap the day up and go home as no blokes are around. Back in the same room as before as the deep kissing commences again. This time was like the first session and again a glorious happy finish in her young soft pussy in missionary. Kissed a bit more and cuddled up, asked her age she confirms its 20 years old so told her she looks around 18, we departed with a final kiss then I went for a shower.
Downstairs after the shower and drying up in the changing room one after another of the girls were fully dressed, passed the entry of this room and said goodbye and waved at me before going up. This was a nice finish to the day and typified that most of the girls seemed in a good mood and relaxed and full of smiles.
I have sort of grown fond of this little club and it could be a good way of spending a couple of hours before a flight at Dortmund. For three sessions a few hours is enough time to be there, so another a good endorsement of this establishment.
At the tram stop see that going to Gelsenkirchen HBF rather than back to Bochum HBF is quicker and is only 10 minutes.
I have sort of grown fond of this little club and it could be a good way of spending a couple of hours before a flight at Dortmund. For three sessions a few hours is enough time to be there, so another a good endorsement of this establishment.Cheers for the update Ccseeka.
Problem with these cheap AO FKK clubs is that Its hard to stay more than a few hours. They don't have much in the way of food or facilities. I guess you might manage a max 4 hours there until you have used up your 3 sessions. I guess you could leave and go somewhere to eat and come back and pay another 110 for 3 more sessions, and have a day there for 220 euro. Wouldn't suit a broke cheapskate like me who only wants to spend a max of €100 per day LOL.
We get down to business but she produces a condom, asked about it as I thought it is AO but she says sorry only condom. She strokes my body up and down for a while, I think am not sure that her name is Sarah but she did say is from the Dominica republic.
After this session I take another look at the photos of the girls at the counter and see that Sarah does not have the word 'Alles' by her name so this means AO after all! Only downside is the arrangement of the girl's photos, which are badly lighted, and there are hand written notes of their names and services. These notes are not clearly written as the same of the names on the small paper on the key ring. I say there were on the day about four or five girls doing AO the other five has the word not sure but its either speziellen or Spezialität by their names whatever that means if not the main extras etc.Their website 'http://fkk-arabella.com/index.php/Unsere_Girls.html' gives details of what the girls offer. However the wording of the descriptions written on the photos in the club can differ a bit from what is on the website, which can be a little confusing. Also the meaning of some of the descriptions can be ambiguous, like girl-friend sex, which could mean different things to different people.
Then some of the girls in the club on a given day may differ from what is described on the website because the website is not updated each time a new girl arrives or leaves.
On the website the Dominican Republic girls are listed as 'No AO' and so offer less than what the other girls are offering but for the same price. This is one of the reasons why I avoided them when I was there. After all, you don't go on a wild animal hunt just to end up shooting plastic, stuffed animals. You want to kill the real thing!
Problem with these cheap AO FKK clubs is that Its hard to stay more than a few hours. They don't have much in the way of food or facilities. I guess you might manage a max 4 hours there until you have used up your 3 sessions. I guess you could leave and go somewhere to eat and come back and pay another 110 for 3 more sessions, and have a day there for 220 euro. Wouldn't suit a broke cheapskate like me who only wants to spend a max of €100 per day LOL.Yes it would be great if it was around at least five sessions for say 150 euros or so. I did notice that there were only about five other guys there during my time and it was a Friday night. Perhaps the pricing structure of 3x is biting a little.
Am sure Myrrh mentioned in his visit report it was something like 55 euros the first session then 30 euros a session after, though this was not made aware to me at the club.
On the website the Dominican Republic girls are listed as 'No AO' and so offer less than what the other girls are offering but for the same price. This is one of the reasons why I avoided them when I was there. After all, you don't go on a wild animal hunt just to end up shooting plastic, stuffed animals. You want to kill the real thing!Agree a bit strange that the session is billed the same price for condom use as for an AO session but I don't want to knock the club too much!
An idea would be say 110 for 3 A0 sessions and a bit cheaper for say three non AO sessions around 70/80 euros well if Mr Cheapskates WK was in charge it would be heh heh.
Yes it would be great if it was around at least five sessions for say 150 euros or so. I did notice that there were only about five other guys there during my time and it was a Friday night. Perhaps the pricing structure of 3x is biting a little.
Am sure Myrrh mentioned in his visit report it was something like 55 euros the first session then 30 euros a session after, though this was not made aware to me at the club.
Agree a bit strange that the session is billed the same price for condom use as for an AO session but I don't want to knock the club too much!
An idea would be say 110 for 3 A0 sessions and a bit cheaper for say three non AO sessions around 70/80 euros well if Mr Cheapskates WK was in charge it would be heh heh.Their website says:
1 x (1/2 hour) : €60
2 x : €90
3 x : €110
The problem is that you don't know for sure whether you are going to like the girls who are going to be on duty for a particular day. If you choose the € 110 option then you may be stuck trying to find 3 girls that you like. On the other hand if you choose the €60 option to begin with then it is an expensive €90 upgrade to a total of €150 for 3 girls, when you could have got it for €110 if you had paid that in the first place.
I would be tempted to pay the €90 for two girls and so hedge my bets.
When I visited they were using the €25 entry plus €30 per 1/2 hour session pricing structure but with a minimum of 1 session. I understand that they switch to this from time to time for a short period then back to the usual pricing structure.
So I paid the minimum price of €55 for entry including one session. This of course is more flexible and in the end I ended up having 3 more 1/2 hour sessions at €30 each for a total of €145 because I liked enough of the girls there. That is 4 bareback shags in total. Under the current pricing regime that would have cost €110 + €60 = €170 so I saved €25.
I think they should use the entry plus pay per session model permanently going forwards. Customers like flexibility. If someone travelled a long way to Arabella and chose the €110 because they wanted to make a day of it then they would be annoyed if they could only find one or two girls who were suitable.
The bareback market is getting more and more competitive with increasingly more choice. The providers need to factor this in.
An idea would be say 110 for 3 A0 sessions and a bit cheaper for say three non AO sessions around 70/80 euros well if Mr Cheapskates WK was in charge it would be heh heh.Fuckin right!
At the three AO places. Grimberg, Arabella, and Villa Venus, I am pretty sure there is a pay as you go for 30 Euros each after your initial paid session (s). So if you only pay initially for one session for 60 Euros, the next two will cost additional 60 Euros come out to 120 Euros. BTW, I just got back from Grimberg today and the price was 120 Euros for three sessions. So there was no savings for paying for three sessions upfront. The last three times I was there were 110 Euros for 3 sessions. These three clubs often change the prices slightly. But I feel they are still one of the best value around nowaday for the quality of the girls and services provided.
They don't have much in the way of food or facilities. I guess you might manage a max 4 hours there until you have used up your 3 sessions.I have seen girls ordered food for delivery at Grimberg and Villa Venus. Customers can probably do the same thing. There is an American Theme diner next door to Club Grimberg.
Thursday.
AO Party Caro Dortmund.
Wanted to sort of make this particular trip a mixture of AO and non-AO but seeing the boards there were very few events going on Thursday so opted to make the trek to Dortmund. Caro normally has her parties on Wednesdays so having moved to the next day gave me a chance to also sample Zhuzha's GB in Rattingen.
Got to Dortmund HBF and checked the map but could not see the direct Rheinbahn (RB) or Rheinexpress (RE) line to Dortmund Wickede so took the U-Bahn from Kampstr instead, a big mistake! This particular journey took forever slowing down in traffic and stopped at one stop then reversed so had to wait a while for the next one. The next journey only went as far as Wickede Post so had to walk quite a bit to the club.
Finally made it to the address 8 Gernotstr at 17. 30 and was wondering if I had missed the first GB round. The site is like a warehouse; there were lots of trucks on stilts and disused buses in the parking area.
Was greeted by a tall thin guy in his fifties and gave 60 euros for the event and mentioned I wanted a HIV test so paid the extra 10. Well I need not worry about missing the start because there were four other guys sitting at the bar each having their tests on the bar counter and waiting for their results. I kind of knew what the result for myself would be as had a series of extensive blood tests a few months ago for a condition non sexual and the HIV (double checking) one came back clear and so it did again on this occasion.
The event place was much smaller than I expected as I came across a website of this address called the BEDO studio.
http://www.bedostudio.com/
And the photos suggested a much bigger venue. It is a sparking clean looking space with a long bar, leather sofas and lots of erotica materials on the walls and a big screen TV but it were not on. The BEDO part is much bigger and only used for larger events of it is some kind of kinky materials factory. The event of this day is in a perhaps closed off section of it.
Caro walked around with a tight white t-shirt nicely showing her big tits and I could see that she is far curvier than her ad photo. She has bleach blond hair and does have a porn star type of look about her.
The first GB took place just after 6pm. Caro walks into the bar area naked bar a pair of pink high heels and then get onto this two piece leather bed shaped like some sort of two hearts. Us guys then crowd around her grabbing her big tits, kissing her ass and one guy is stood over flapping his cock in her face. It was a bit of a hassle trying to fuck her in this space a bit perplexed why she did not just go onto the larger part of the bed. (See photo of that bed in the link, the videos on the wall were not there) it is three rows across five rows down.
http://www.bedostudio.com/sex/galerie/fotos.php?cat=/Location
Anyway after a few guys rammed her hard in mish and doggy I had a go at her in doggy her pussy at this stage was still a bit tight, as she did not use any gel. Pumped her hard and it was sexy when she tends to look over her shoulder but I could not come so pulled out. Just watched the action then a few more guys turned up so in all about 7 to 8 of us. The first action lasted about 35 to 40 minutes. The thin manager guy likes to sit at the sofa and perve at it all dragging on his cigarettes. He tended to drag on his smokes like the thin guy in the X Files!
After this session it got very easy going and not much else to do but either stare at everyone or like me move in and out of sleepiness from time to time. Can only move around this space, as there is only the changing room, the toilet and the one-piece shower room. Had endless glasses of cola and raiding the crisps plates. The next session was not until about an hour later! Could see one or two guys getting a bit inpatient, but finally another session to come.
Back to the same tight space on that flaming doubled shaped bed. She sucked everyone's cock and she has a nice soft wet action. Kissed her all over her neck and face while some guy was madly fucking her in mish. I managed to get her twice in doggy and the second time had a slow glorious come in her pussy whilst she kept looking back. Another guy fucks her in mish and does a loud roar he gets ups in a daze looks well happy to which all the guys gave him a round of applause. This session lasted around the 30 minutes mark.
The ending was very kinky as the blond sexpot lay on the bedding and then the thin guy walks over and gets his cock out and starts wanking a while staring while she is feeling her pussy. Then he moved down and put his fist into her pussy, after a bit uses two fingers and furiously fingered her, she starts screaming, I was about to kiss her neck and face but then all of a sudden big splash of pussy juice flew out. Standing next to them could see all the juice everywhere on the bed and floor, this made me horny and that point wanted to just put my dick in her. But was not sure if this was possible. This ended around 20. 10 so hanged around thinking there was at least one more merry go around before lights out but not really that's was it for the night. Around 20. 40 decided to have a shower after seeing the other guys starting to leave. Left just before 9pm.
Before I attended my gut instincts sort of was telling me that when an event has one girl in it and is repeated each week for quite a while that it could fall into it becoming less attended and the girl becoming a bit bored with doing it the same way all the time? Also it seemed a bit like a local get together as Caro tended to stick with the same guy on the sofa chatting and looking at the phones etc. In the end the gut was right.
The only way I could recommend this particular event is if there is a flight to be caught at Dortmund airport that evening / night as it is only about ten minutes walk from there. Not sure to make a real effort just to go there specially unless for the reasons just given in other words maybe a good way to end a trip if there are only two GB sessions in that time slot. But looking at the link below it looks like the manager guy running it is expanding into other parties so it could be much different at those times.
http://boris-senking-event.com/1.startseite.html
The S-Bahn station is only a short walk away. Going to the club it is best to get to Dortmund HBF then get the U-Bahn to Dortmund Stadthaus which has a S-Bahn station so can get that faster train to Dortmund Wickede.
At the three AO places. Grimberg, Arabella, and Villa Venus, I am pretty sure there is a pay as you go for 30 Euros each after your initial paid session (s). So if you only pay initially for one session for 60 Euros, the next two will cost additional 60 Euros come out to 120 Euros.Except the Arabella website says something like 'If you want to make more use of the ticket bookings then we start from scratch and you just buy a new ticket' [
http://fkk-arabella.com/index.php/Infos.html
].
But then again if you look at the pricing structure for the different tickets.
1 x (1/2 hour) € 60
€ 90 2 x
3 x € 110
Then you see that the price goes up by €30 and then €20 for each additional 1/2 hour ticket.
Clearly the €60 initial 1/2 hour ticket includes the entrance fee of around €30 and it would be greedy to charge you that again by asking you to buy a €60 ticket if you wanted one more shag after your initial book of tickets had been used up.
But that is what their website implies.
I have seen girls ordered food for delivery at Grimberg and Villa Venus. Customers can probably do the same thing. There is an American Theme diner next door to Club Grimberg.I wonder would they give you a pass to leave for an hour to get food?
I added a thread for Arabella / Villa venus / Grimberg in the FKK section, because the pricing isn't flatrate it should be in the FKK section.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3419-Fkk-Arabella-Villa-Venus-Sauna-Grimberg-NRW-AO-Clubs
Also the Dolcevita Raubach thread has also been moved into the FKK section.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3179-Dolce-Vita-Raubach
SwingerLover
02-18-13, 02:35
Not flatrate, but nevertheless:
TUE 19th & WED 20th 11-18:00: 3holeslut (AO) Do with her what you want! Use the pig shamelessly, do snod her holes full. The dirty skunk leaves the entire jizz from the predecessors inside. Dick gets licked clean. Ideal for Mudpushers, she remains uncleaned during the entire time. Smooching wanted. Her name Michaela 43years, hairy, (meaning unshaved pussy) 165 cm tall. 60 kg, big 85E saggy tits. Use her as your spermslut and as your fuck- and bend-over-piece. Full use. Slutwage/-fee € 50.
There you have it. Full translation of this ad:
Dienstag 19. u. Mittw. 20. 02. Von 11. 00-18:00UhrMach mit Ihr was Du willst benutze die Sau schamlos rotz Ihr die Löcher voll. Die Drecksau lässt die ganze Wichse von den Vorgängern drin. Schwanz wird sauber geleckt. Ideal für Schlammschieber, Sie bleibt wärend der ganzen Zeit ungesäubert. Knutschen erwünscht. Ihre Name Michaela 43j, behaart. 165cm groß.60kg große 85E Hängetitten. Benutze Sie als Deine Spermaschlamp und als Dein Fick und Bückstück. Vollbenutzug Schlampenlohn € 50-
http://www.fickreklame.com/ao-kontakte/index.php?id=1361116555
Too bad that she's too far away!
SwingerLover
02-19-13, 11:56
www.1night-kontakt.de/cgi-bin/classifieds/classifieds.cgi?search_and_display_db_button=on&db_id=88144&query=retrieval
This is one deranged birdie! Here's the ad and it's translation:
"Hallo, bin Jessica. 18 Jahre alt, Französin, total tabulos, ich mag Ao Sex in alle meine Löscher, gerne risiko Ficks und Poz. Partys. Kleines TG und Reisenkosten erstattung. Bin auch sehr Tierlieb. Sehr Gang bang erfahren."
Hello, am Jessica. 18 years old, Frenchwoman, totally tabooless, I like bareback sex in all my holes, gladly risk fucks and "Poz." parties. Small pocket money and reimbursement of travel cost. Am also very animal-loving. Very gangbang-experienced.
Now, I don't have the slightest idea what a "Poz. Party" is. But I mailed this very cute birdie and asked about everything else. And learned that she deliberately does AO-Gangbangs with HIV-positive guys and enjoys it (meaning 'risk fucks') and 'tierlieb' is also meant literally. She already let herself get fucked by hound dogs; now she's looking for ponys, stallions and boars.
She's 18.
So be warned! Unless you want to get infected, stay away. (By the way, she asks 150 € per guy; 200 € for anal for her gangbangs. No idea how much a horse has to pay.)
Hello, am Jessica. 18 years old, Frenchwoman, totally tabooless, I like bareback sex in all my holes, gladly risk fucks and "Poz." parties. Small pocket money and reimbursement of travel cost. Am also very animal-loving. Very gangbang-experienced.
Now, I don't have the slightest idea what a "Poz. Party" is. But I mailed this very cute birdie and asked about everything else. And learned that she deliberately does AO-Gangbangs with HIV-positive guys and enjoys it (meaning 'risk fucks') and 'tierlieb' is also meant literally. She already let herself get fucked by hound dogs; now she's looking for ponys, stallions and boars.When its too good to be true it is too good to be true! She says she is looking for ponys, stallions and boars, well that rules me out because even though I have been eating horse burgers, it did not give me a horse dick.
On kontakt24. De for example I have seen that there are many women in krefeld offering ao sex for private meetings.
Any experiences with them?
Any particular ao girls from krefeld that any of you would recommend?
When its too good to be true it is too good to be true! She says she is looking for ponys, stallions and boars, well that rules me out because even though I have been eating horse burgers, it did not give me a horse dick.Ha, ha, now that's funny, I laughed till I was horse.
Vito Corleone
02-21-13, 03:00
Late review on a party Thursday January 21, Worringer strasse 52 Dusseldorf.
I noticed swinger's great updates & noticed a real hottie Evelina or Elvira? Whatever her name was her photo looked great. This was also advertised as a AO lite event. I enjoy creampies in private sessions, but not gangbangs.
I arrive & of course she was not there. Laura was, but not fucking. Just helping out in the kitchen answering the door etc. I asked about the hottie & she said she will arrive later. I kind of looked at the lineup & only a thin cute Romy caught my attention. I told them I would return later. Spent the next 45 min-1 hr checking out the rest of the rooms in the building. Gangbang was on the top floor (5th?) & there was some decent looking babes on the 3rd floor.
Left the building to put more money in the meter & returned. Elvelina did not show & I was ready to leave when Steffi arrives. She looks much much better in person. Her photos are crap. I decided to stay. The Romys were in one room & the Bulgarians in the other. The 2 Romys were decent & the other 2 bulgarians were fat milfs (creampies were allowed). I found out fast that you have to be pretty aggressive to get yourself in position to bang one of these babes.
Steffi was great! Did her 3 times & the other thin Romy (forgot her name & her photo was not in the advertisement).4 sessions for 79E is a pretty good deal. I did notice the girls give priority to their regulars who follow them from event to event.
SwingerLover
02-21-13, 19:55
Steffi was great!So you were one of the ones she liked and did fuck. (But I suppose no cuming inside.) So you have the advantage; I couldn't tell, because at the party in Krefeld on SUN 3rd, I was among the half of the guys she avoided. The party last Tuesday was a no-go for me, simply because she was advertised. What good is a very, very pretty girl to me (and others) if she doesn't fuck? I don't see why she should get one cent of my money, when she's only annoying to half the guys at the party. Let her do single sessions only, or better yet, send her back to Schneewittchen in Viersen where she came from. That's the right place for her!
On kontakt24. De for example I have seen that there are many women in krefeld offering ao sex for private meetings.
Any experiences with them?
Any particular ao girls from krefeld that any of you would recommend?Of course. Some of them are the same ones that do the bareback parties. Read up in the Krefeld AO Parties thread. I recommend Sonja, Karina, Mickey and young Isabella.
http://www.kontakt24.de/providers/show/34255
http://www.fickreklame.com/ao-kontakte/index.php?id=1360765963
http://www.fickreklame.com/ao-kontakte/index.php?id=1360766200
http://www.fickreklame.com/ao-kontakte/index.php?id=1360766625
And recommend to stay away from Sibel:
http://www.kontakt24.de/hobbyhuren/32783/krefeld-47799-sibel-.html
In the wrong thread. Generally the standard of service is supposed to be quite low. Many reports suggest avoiding the top floor of Oppumer Strasse 1. The adverts are often out of date.
However I had a superb experience with a girl last December (Ina ground floor Oppumer 1). I doubt she is still there. She offered absolutely everything. GFE, sweet, just plain nice. I will be going back on offchance she is still there.
The prices are usually set out for you on a menu, so it is easy to choose.
On kontakt24. De for example I have seen that there are many women in krefeld offering ao sex for private meetings. If I remember correctly they start from about 50 euro for half hour (extra for AO, anal etc, less for 15 minutes sessions)
Any experiences with them?
Any particular ao girls from krefeld that any of you would recommend?
FrenchieAtlanti
02-22-13, 22:39
I was at Sarrebrucken February 21th and I decided to go to Melanie Moon and Mariana Montana private party, at Melanie Home. Last time, I was at Karsruhe at Spermagames in a big factory of sex. More 100 guys in small places. The rugby matches are sweet caresses against this type of party. At Melanie Moon party, realy oposite : 10 guys for 2 girls, it was like you are invited at friends dinner. I regretted to not bring a wine bottle for gift.
To book, you must call Melanie. No SMS and no mail. She tells you her adress. It's a house with a lot of companies around. The house is very clean and Melanie and her boyfriend have a taste for decoration.
I arrived in front of house. A little door with a bell behind the house is the entrance. Malanie welcome you and explain how is the place and you can do the test with her boyfriend. After, you can undress. The room for action is in the ground floor. Two mattress are on the floor. A big bathroom is just nearby.
After you are naked (with a towel or the panty) , you can go in the living room. 10 guys are around the table to drink a cup of champagne. A friendly meeting, but naked.
After one hour to wait, the action could begin. The girls are very pro. Too much for me. They are nice, but you car see that they often do it. First BJ with Mariana. Very sweet. I came in her pusy and close up. With 10 guys for 2 girls, it was very quick. 20 mn after, all men was empty. We went to the living room again for the pause. 1/2 later, second round. I try to fuck Melanie. Bad BJ, but good fuck. I don't like her enormous breasts. She's pretty and a C cup would be very nice for her.
It was a good afternoon and before I leave, I said goodbye to all men, like friends. Some of they try to speak with me in english. German guys are realy nice with strangers. This type of party are very different to the big industry like GB01 or Spermagames. 20 guys for 2 girls would be the good balance.
Vito Corleone
02-23-13, 00:34
So you were one of the ones she liked and did fuck. (But I suppose no cuming inside.) So you have the advantage; I couldn't tell, because at the party in Krefeld on SUN 3rd, I was among the half of the guys she avoided. The party last Tuesday was a no-go for me, simply because she was advertised. What good is a very, very pretty girl to me (and others) if she doesn't fuck? I don't see why she should get one cent of my money, when she's only annoying to half the guys at the party. Let her do single sessions only, or better yet, send her back to Schneewittchen in Viersen where she came from. That's the right place for her!Steffi & the 2 Romys were AO lite. The 2 Jabba the Hut trolls were creampie city. Evelina & AO lite were the reasons I attended. Creampies & the next guy ramming it in with the other guys juice oozing out is not my cup of tea.
There were always 10-15 guys surrounding her the entire time. She pretty much let everyone get a chance to bang her. Only time she said no was when she needed a break. She was by far the busiest babeatthe party. Seems like she liked everyoneatthe Dusseldorf event. I did not stay till the end, so not sure if she tires out or not, but she was a trooper.
SwingerLover
02-23-13, 13:31
I was at Sarrebrucken February 21th and I decided to go to Melanie Moon and Mariana Montana private party, at Melanie Home.
The girls are very pro. Too much for me. They are nice, but you car see that they often do it.
I try to fuck Melanie. Bad BJ, but good fuck. I don't like her enormous breasts. She's pretty and a C cup would be very nice for her.Good to finally have a report on MM's own parties in SB. I always wanted to go there, because it's one of the closest AO-places for me, but the timing was never right until now. But good to know that it's working out alright and is not overcrowded, so I think I give it a try there on March 8th when Melanie is partying with Manuela. http://www.gb-bukkake.com/
Yes, Melanie is very much pro. I fucked both of them at Spermagames in Reichelsheim last year. Marina was very good, except you can't fuck her missionary too hard, because of all the metal hardware surrounding her pussy. My first encounter with Melanie Moon at SG was awful, but at following parties she was so much better that she still made my Top10 of SG-Reichelsheim-women.
And I don't like her giant fake hooters either. They even kinda turn me down. For me, it's best to lay down flat on top of her or fuck her from behind, so I don't see them plastic things. However tiny her original breastsize might have been, I'm sure that it would have looked better on her. The only problem: Even if she is pretty (and prettier than most pictures would suggest) no one would propably notice her at all without the silly cones and high heels because she's so tiny. And I don't think she would have won last years Venus-award if it wasn't for her giant fake boobs. Most guys are just hung up on looks too much. http://melaniemoon.net/index.php?site=1001
SwingerLover
02-23-13, 13:53
Late review on a party Thursday January 21, Worringer strasse 52 Dusseldorf.
I noticed swinger's great updates & noticed a real hottie Evelina or Elvira?I just checked my January map, I think this was the party on the 24th. Or was there another one on the 21st that I had missed? If it was the party I had put on the map for the 24th, the missing hottie must have been Elena.
Steffi & the 2 Romys were AO lite. The 2 Jabba the Hut trolls were creampie city.
There were always 10-15 guys surrounding her the entire time. She pretty much let everyone get a chance to bang her. Only time she said no was when she needed a break. She was by far the busiest babeatthe party.If the line-up hadn't changed completely, the two creampies must have been Sibel and Daisy.
And if Steffi was great at your party, then she obviously had taken on Sibel's lousy behaviour since then. When I met her, she was crap!
Do you recognize any of the women here?
http://www.kontakt24.de/providers/show/34969
http://www.kontakt24.de/providers/show/32783
http://www.kontakt24.de/hobbyhuren/33312/krefeld-47803-daisy.html
http://www.kontakt24.de/hobbyhuren/34637/duesseldorf-40211-melissa-.html
SwingerLover
02-23-13, 15:00
Here's a little glimpse of AO-Yvone in action:
http://www.gang-bang-stuttgart.com/?page_id=4685
Swingerlover,
You keep posting some ads for bareback gangbangs in Antwerp and elsewhere such as from afjspraakjes website. Sry maybe spelled wrong etc. Have you ever been to any? And can anyone report? They look not bad except the ones in Wommergen Dreamhotel or whatever are unfortunately often 150euros. Even though no test is needed thats way too expensive. 80 to 100 max would be ok.
Am especially interested to know if the young 19yo lisa comes back she looked great but unf had to work those two days.
Ok thanks
SwingerLover
02-25-13, 02:32
Sorry, I have no background info whatsoever about anything I posted from the afspraakjes-site. I'm just keeping an eye on that in case something would turn up between Hasselt and the LUX-border, because that would be an acceptable distance for me. Anything else I find on there, I just put into the AO map, where the last lists in the Calendar thread derived from. I kept the Belgium Bare Gangbangs in there too, despite that they would rather belong to the Belgium forum.
And yes, I agree, the prices are pretty steep. 150 € for a 3 hour gangbang with only one woman, even if it is AO, is something I would never consider. But it seems like belgian guys are willing to pay it, otherwise the price would go down or they would stop.
No info about 19-year-old Lisa either. I don't know more than what I read in the afspraakjes-ads. And I don't speak dutch! But I still understand most of what is written there.
The only first hand info I ever got on Bareback Belgium was from Sexy-Susi about one of her (usually rubber) gangbangs with MariskaX back in January. There was this one event which was filmed and had been advertised as being GGG-style; she confirmed to me that it was AO, as was the following non-filmed party on the same day for all who did an HIV-test.
This concludes my info on Bareback Belgium. And even if I'm tempted by the 60-€-Gangbang with two women in Dendermonde, that is way too far away for me for only 3 hours. So I'm still waiting on someone else to give some feedback on those bare gangbangs in Belgium myself.
Vito Corleone
02-25-13, 03:54
I just checked my January map, I think this was the party on the 24th. Or was there another one on the 21st that I had missed? If it was the party I had put on the map for the 24th, the missing hottie must have been Elena.
If the line-up hadn't changed completely, the two creampies must have been Sibel and Daisy.
And if Steffi was great at your party, then she obviously had taken on Sibel's lousy behaviour since then. When I met her, she was crap!You are correct. Typo. Party was on the 24th.
Angelina was one of the orcs. No Sibel or Daisy. I do remember Melissa fucking once in a while in the Bulgarian room. Totally forgot about her. Spent most of the time in the kitchen.
Swingerlover,
You keep posting some ads for bareback gangbangs in Antwerp and elsewhere such as from afjspraakjes website. Sry maybe spelled wrong etc. Have you ever been to any? And can anyone report? They look not bad except the ones in Wommergen Dreamhotel or whatever are unfortunately often 150euros. Even though no test is needed thats way too expensive. 80 to 100 max would be ok.
Am especially interested to know if the young 19yo lisa comes back she looked great but unf had to work those two days.
Ok thanksThere are cheaper AO parties around in Belgium.
But so far there is too little competition.
SwingerLover
02-27-13, 09:31
There are cheaper AO parties around in Belgium.More info please! (And more appropriately in the Belgium forum, General info thread.)
I do remember Melissa fucking once in a while in the Bulgarian room. Totally forgot about her.She used to call herself Monika before. I had one party with her at Alte Linner Straße 7 in Krefeld last year, when she looked totally spaced out. You could indeed totally forget about her that day.
Marine One
03-07-13, 04:02
this is squisable bottle with narrow tip. you can inject it into your urethra and spray over you penis head. it is recommended to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) and wash your penis before use. i use it after ao only. however it can be used after bbbj as well.
it is recommended to use it no later than 40 min after ao intercourse. but the sooner the better.the type of bottle you get depends on your source of miramistin. some countries are supplied by overseas manufacturing while ukraine and russia are locally supplied. for example i can only get the large spray bottles with pumps on them or the small gel tubes (no narrow tip). the product from the bottle is very watery but also sticky, whereas the gel comes out like toothpaste but turns clear and slippery when you rub it.
you get far better results if you apply the product before sex, rather than after! those vicous bacteria and viruses can take hold on your dick very fast. rubbing it on yourself first creates a protective barrier. it will not hurt the girl, in fact it will help her. you can put this stuff right into an open wound and it won't sting; in fact i keep some in my kitchen in case of accidental knife cuts to the fingers.
obviously the gel is better than the spray for sex because it looks and feels just like lube. this is why i prefer fkks and pts with bathrobes instead of towels. that way you have a pocket to keep your supplies handy for action at any time.
RomaPussyLove
03-08-13, 03:06
Does anyone had sex with Melissa or Monica? At her new address, is it only parties? Or can you get private sessions too? Can you just enter without appointment?
Rhx,
Grts
SwingerLover
03-08-13, 05:54
Does anyone had sex with Melissa or Monica? At her new address, is it only parties? Or can you get private sessions too? Can you just enter without appointment?Yes, you can get private sessions with her, like with all the girls from the parties. Last I heard the going rate was 50 € for 30 mins. 100 € for an hour, for AO 70/120 €.
SwingerLover
03-10-13, 17:22
My second visit to Swingerclub Traumpalais, second time for a Sexy-Susi-Gangbang. I arrived shortly after 14:00, paid the 100 € at the door, then got inside to get my HIV-test done for another 20 €. Got undressed, stashed my clothes and valuables away in the locker, returned the key at the counter, got a towel and went upstairs to hit the shower.
While I was drying myself off, Susi and Aymie were already on the mat, getting it on with the few guys that were already there. They were giving blowjobs, so I started with some DATY on Susi. When the guy she was blowing was ready to fuck I made room for him and continued the DATY on Aymie. After a while she said "Enough of that, I want to fuck!", so I let the guy she was blowing do her while I was watching the show. Aymie is a very slim person with tiny, but pretty tits, which she unfortunately hid away all afternoon long behind some corset. Grandios fucking though! It's a crying shame that there were so few guys there; I don't think we were more than a dozen overall, I believe 7 or 8 at the same time at most. Including Aymie's guy Pornfighterlongjohn, who also joined in and fucked her some, because traffic was so low. It would have been no problem for either of those two women to handle this party all by themselves. PFLJ even mentioned that we guys today really could fuck a lot, because we were so few. At first I tended to agree, but later on it turned out that we got to fuck less, because of the low numbers. For at 17:45 we were only 3 guys left, so they decided (correctly) that Aymie could leave already and Susi would do a final session with us 3 guys and then the party would be over. So the 4 of us went upstairs again at 18:00, everybody did Susi once more, but I would have needed some more time to recharge, so I couldn't come for a 3rd time. We then showered, got downstairs, paid for our drinks, said our goodbyes and at 19:00 sharp I left the building as the last guy. One hour before the party was supposed to end! But I totally agree with their decision to cut the party short. What would they do with me and two other guys, sitting around for another hour? The fault lies in the guys. Or to be precisely: The lack of guys. Too few there, and even those didn't stay all that long. And both women were so great! I believe I did each of them 3 times, came only twice, both times in Aymie. I believe she may have gotten 10 % of what she's propably used to from PFLJ- or GB01-events. A crying shame! So where was everybody? Where were all the guys complaining about overcrowded GB01-events in Mörfelden (just under 25 mins away) with 70 guys in a building that is too small for that? Here we had two great women for an AO-Gangbang, Aymie's pussy practically screaming for dicks, and not enough guys around to really get things going. And for this, she and Longjohn drive there all the way from Berlin and back.
Part of the problem may lie in the lack of advertising. Whereas Melanie Moon advertises everything on Fickanzeigen, Fickreklame and such sites, I have never seen an ad from Susi on those sites. And neither on her own website, nor on the Traumpalais-website was any mentioning about this being an AO-Party. The fault here lies with the club. For they are scared that they would get kicked off that militant Anti-AO portal Joyclub if it found out that they are doing AO-parties. You can't even get a decent answer on the phone from Traumpalais about AO, because they fear you might be a Joyclub-spy, staking them out for AO. What business do they have interfering with other people's parties? And why is everybody so hung up on this shitty portal, which already pissed me off with all they wanted to know from you if you want to register there? I really felt like I had a questionaire from the Stasi or Gestapo in front of me when I tried to register there years ago, so I broke that off immediately. Now Joyclub and it's members are trying to tell other people how to do their parties. I vaguely remember from 7 to 11 years ago that Swingers used to be a tolerant group of people. But meanwhile the "tolerance" borders on totalitarianism at some of those portals, like Joyclub. Which has just gotten the Boris-Senking-Event killed that was scheduled for next Tuesday in Stuttgart. The club was supposed to be closed that day to the general populus and only open for people who wanted this AO-event, but Joyclubbers threatened to boycott the place from then on, if they would do the AO-party! (I was told as much from an reliable informed source.) So where's the tolerance here? Gestapo Swingers instead. Just another reason to avoid Swingerclubs, especially ones boosted by a lot of Joyclub members.
But I'm straying from the party report. Now where was I? Hhm, I think I covered most of it. Susi was as sweet as honey again and fucking everybody several times, Aymie is as horny as they get and not to be missed if there's a party with her around. The whole party was very nice and enjoyable, fucking was great and the chit-chat in the lounge during the breaks was pleasant too. So it was a good party with nothing spectacular happening, except the women themselves. If there would have been 15-20 more men, it would have been really great! And actually lasted until 20:00.
So gear up, people; the next Sexy-Susi-AO-Gangbang at Traumpalais will be on April 18th, propably from 14:00-20:00 again, with Susi and Melanie Moon. Hopefully there will be better attendance! But I believe there will be a Spermagames-party in Karlsruhe on the same day. So who knows?
And I still encourage everyone to an ISG-members-meeting at the Melanie Moon surprise-party in Saarbrücken on Friday, April 12th, from 15:00!
Obviously the gel is better than the spray for sex because it looks and feels just like lube. This is why I prefer FKKs and PTs with bathrobes instead of towels. That way you have a pocket to keep your supplies handy for action at any time.I did not hear an opinion that Miramistin is better before sex rather than after. Russian / Ukrainian boards suggest using it no later than 40 min after first BB penetration. So, virtually this is right after sex. I always use it after. Newer tried gel. I always use liquid.
SwingerLover
03-23-13, 20:13
Announcing the Opening of a new Bareback AO Gangbang place:
Spermabang, Kirchwies 2, 66119 Saarbrücken-Schönbach.
THU 11th 14-21:00: New Opening, AO / Safe Gangbang-Party with Manuela, Melanie Moon, Sexy-Susi & Aymie Eng for 109 € + 20 € for HIV-test. (89 € if you register in advance. 69 € if you stay for only 2 hours. Couples: 35 € + tests.) http://spermabang.com/events.html
The adress is not that new, it's the place where Melanie Moon used to hold her own Gangbangs in Saarbrücken before. Only now it seems to become a regular Gangbang Club, with propably more parties happening per month than before.
Ok it's just over the Belgian border but I picked up this item from Swingerlover's map and listings here. My first regret was having to drive on Belgian roads. My joy was returning over the German border to a road without farmcarts, dozy daytrippers, and interminable road works. Actually it was only a short hop over the border but it felt worse.
The event took place in a rent a room by the hour hotel. It was advertised as a love hotel. I couldn't work out how to get in the car park so I had to park on the quiet residential sidestreet nearby.
The cost was 110euro. Steep by German standards for a 3 hour event. I was the first there, and nobody else turend up for half hour. In the end there were only four customers (out of sixteen who had booked in). Lotje was only a tiny bit overweight, but most of it was round her stomach, but it was not offputting even to me who normally only goes with "gazelles". She had (for me) a very attractive face. She was there with her man (who did not take part but was not at all offputting)
All present were really friendly. But my lack of Flemish meant that I was a little bit out of the chatting (occasionally they used English for my benefit). They tried to teach me some Flemish.
The sex was excellent. DP, anal, DFK, DATY, CIM, fingering (vaginal and anal), nipple twisting. Pretty much everything. More than four customers would have improved things. I decided to leave after 90 minutes (I had run out of ammunition after a busy previous night) as I had appointments for later in the same day.
Lotje was superb, going at it with huge enthusiasm, but if you are into GBs then maybe spermagames or spermastudio simply because of the larger numbers attending
Condoms were available
i did not hear an opinion that miramistin is better before sex rather than after. russian / ukrainian boards suggest using it no later than 40 min after first bb penetration. so, virtually this is right after sex. i always use it after. newer tried gel. i always use liquid.i am no medical expert but it would seem to me that killing the germs before they enter your body is a far better idea than trying to chase and kill them after they have entered it.
i know from experience, and from reading of medical information provided on-line, that going to the toilet to have a [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) soon after having sex is not a very reliable way of ensuring that any std's that may have entered your urethra are flushed out before they take hold in the body. these germs penetrate too fast so i am not sure how trying to squirt a gel or liquid up a tiny urethra is going to help. even applying a cream with clotrimazole in it to the head of my penis, which is supposed to counteract the thrush germs, has not in the past prevented me from getting thrush.
but i have often thought that if they ever invented a self sealing protective gel which would block or kill any stds then that would be the way forward. if it could block anything from entering the urethra but does not stop anything coming out, like spunk or [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140), then that would be fantastic. you would be protected but would have the feeling of having unprotected sex but with just gel on which is not much of an hindrance.
does this miramistin protect against hiv? if it is so good and acknowledged as so then why isn't it more generally available to the public? i would have thought that sex sites, sex shops and even pharmacy chains would have jumped on the idea and developed their own derivatives because there would be money to be made.
btw, could not find where to buy this stuff on-line.
One of the BEST parties I ever attended!
More than 100 people were there, and enjoyed in random order:
Laura Teen, Rinata, Jana, Mia *****, Lilly Bang, AmelieO, Svenja, Mercedes, Melanie Moon, and some amateur women / pornstars from whom I don't know their names.
The location / girls / food / drinks were all good!
You could fuck from sunset untill sunrise, GB01 did a good job organizing this party!
A lot of action was filmed, and these video's will be amongst a lot of my favourite movies, some girls were really insatiable, for instance Laura Teen, Lilly Bang and Rinata.
With such a line up, I will take the 400+ KM drive to Bremen for granted!
SwingerLover
03-25-13, 19:02
You could fuck from sunset untill sunrise,
With such a line up, I will take the 400+ KM drive to Bremen for granted!Grrrr; fuck from sunset untill sunrise? If I had known that, I would not have minded the 440 km drive (one way) and the attached 110 € for gas money + the 120 € for the party. The GB01-website had said "19-24:00" and not "open end". For only 5 hours, the drive would have been too long and expensive. But for an allnighter? What a shame!
this was indeed a great party."only" 300km drive, but worth every km of it!
the new place is great, has a good erotical atmosphere, and even with so many people, it was not overcrowded. there were more than 10 active woman (and some passive woman, that looked also very good, but were "look only, don't touch", pity, especially the red-headed one.).
of course many people were in line for the testing, but after some delay, the party finally started with some opening statements, and a stripper show: a blond [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) in police uniform, who had a great body (pity it was destroyed with silicone boobs.) and did some show with the proud organizer of the evening. funny to see, but if you know what wil come next, it can not compare with the "real woman" who were present!
from the announced girls, leonie (known as dany at ss and kitty at sg) did not show up (what's new, this girl has not a very good track record in this respect) , but all others (laura, lily, mercedes, melanie moon) were there, and even a handful more (with top girls like jana, mia bidz, etc).
so you see it is possible to organize a good party with very good tweenies, in combination with some good milfs (despite the latest sg parties, were mostly milfs were present). also some amateur couples were there, who gave it all (and more) too!
what followed was hours of non-stop f*cking and s*cking. with many screaming, sperm licking, etc. too many highlights (and orgasms) to describe it all, but memorable is the duet of laura and melanie (including some sperm swapping) , the extreme screaming of one of the amateur woman, that must have alarmed the local police or fireman. and rita taking it down all holes she has!
around midnight was a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) break, so people who liked, could do their thing into the mouths of mia, melanie and jana. swapping and kissing together in the mean time.
then the after party lasted another few hours, where especially mercedes appeared to be unstoppable.
a night to remember, that's for sure!
one of the best parties i ever attended!
more than 100 people were there, and enjoyed in random order:
laura teen, rinata, jana, mia, lilly bang, amelieo, svenja, mercedes, melanie moon, and some amateur women / pornstars from whom i don't know their names.
the location / girls / food / drinks were all good!
you could fuck from sunset untill sunrise, gb01 did a good job organizing this party!
a lot of action was filmed, and these video's will be amongst a lot of my favourite movies, some girls were really insatiable, for instance laura teen, lilly bang and rinata.
with such a line up, i will take the 400+ km drive to bremen for granted!
The red-headed name is lia [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901), she only does 1 on 1 dating:
http://www.kaufmich.com/lialolita and http://lialolita.com/
beautiful girl for sure!
SwingerLover
03-26-13, 18:54
Laura Teen, Rinata, Jana, Mia *****, Lilly Bang, AmelieO, Svenja, Mercedes, Melanie Moon, and some amateur women / pornstars from whom I don't know their names.
From the announced girls, Leonie (known as Dany at SS and Kitty at SG) did not show up (what's new, this girl has not a very good track record in this respect) , but all others (Laura, Lily, Mercedes, Melanie Moon) were there, and even a handful more (with top girls like Jana, Mia Bidz, etc).
A night to remember, that's for sure!So if I deduct correctly, the 10 active women were Laura Teen, Lily Bang, Mercedes, Melanie Moon, AmelieO, Svenja, Jana, Rita, Rinata & MiaBitch. One of them must have been the loud-screaming woman then? Spritz wrote to me about a Claudia being present and doing the after hours action with Mercedes. That would then be 11 active women?
Please, more about the "Too many highlights (and orgasms) to describe it all"! Even if you deliver it only piece by piece.
I suppose Mercedes and MiaBitch were rubbers-only again?
By the way, I loved how you avoided theBitch being edited out by the forum with using "Mia Bidz"! Too bad one cannot link to her website here, because the forum always gives you this:
http://www.mia-*****.com/
I tested this out in the Test Messages thread to show it to Jackson and complained about theBitch being edited out, as a result I now have an infraction listed on my profile. So don't bother using that thread to point out any errors the forum's system produces, it will only get you a reprimand. Contact Jackson directly instead if you have any complaints.
SwingerLover
04-06-13, 15:05
I've heard quite some stories about those AO-Partys which the supe4345-couple had organized last year at Swingerclub Traumpalais in Heidesheim. Guys were talking enthusiastically about AO-Mega-parties with 20 couples, the women looking like from a women's fashion-catalogue and were horny to be creampied all evening long. Those guys had banged themselves silly before at those parties and were there again at yesterday's party, on Friday, April 5th. To experience a dismal failure, for which they had driven over two hours from the Ruhr-area (Bochum, Schwerte) in NRW.
Because there was no supe4345-couple there last night! The party got changed to a regular Friday-Swinger-party at super-short notice; the change on the website must have happened only a few hours before the party, because yesterday afternoon when I checked, "supe4345" had still been on there. Now it is gone. No e-mail to tell me this, (I had registerd upfront.) no mentioning of the change at the door either. Just keep the money rolling in from guys who expect to get an AO-party again like they used to get back last year. None of them were interested in the rubber-fucking-couples that were there, not even in Heike (former Spritzehaus, who was there as a private guest) and other quite good looking women. So there were two groups there: The regular Swinger-clique and the hugely disappointed AO seekers.
Lucky for me, there was one couple there who also had travelled two hours for this supposedly "AO-event" and they were also disappointed about the lack of AO and about a lot of the rest of the "clique" not even living up to the nudity-motto. At least this woman was available for AO action, including sloppy seconds, (and thirds) and she was oh so very horny. Trouble is, she wasn't quite the attractive kind; an older, chubby MILF-housewife, which some guys even avoided or only fucked out of desperation because no other AO-women was around. And since I know you guys out there, who are hung up on looks: Anybody how avoids Krefeld-AO-Angelina and the older "Bad Girls" Bianca, Valentina and former "Bad Girl" Anna would not have been interested in this woman either. Well, that's your loss. I liked this chubby woman very much. Accordingly I fucked her three times, creampieing and DFK included, and came twice. (There's a picture of Moni in the PT Mettmann thread who is the same type of woman, only Moni appears to be a few years younger: www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2849-Partytreff-Mettmann-Mettmann&p=1407433&viewfull=1#post1407433)
So while the other AO-guys experienced disaster, I still had a good time with this couple, including some GFE. (Although "girl" doesn't quite apply here, should maybe call it "womanfriend experience".) I even got some personal contact with them, and because the "AO-party" ended around 1:20 they invited me over to their hotelroom, where the two of us continued to take turns fucking her. I left there at 3 am.
So I got lucky yesterday. If they had not been there, it would have been a disaster for me too. I would have had to slap on a rubber to get maybe two rubberfucks out of the regular couples, and that would have been it. No use paying 110 € just for that. So this couple saved my day, especially since driving cost was not a factor for me this time. (I went grocery shopping before going to the club, got a lot of stuff cheap because it was on sale; along with food and drinks at the club, watching the others, listening to the Sound of Heike again and having some nice conversations, that was good for the cost of getting there and back.) But I don't think that I will ever return there for a regular party, only if a party is explicitly advertised as AO or for Sexy-Susi-AO-Gangbangs. Otherwise I won't consider this place anymore, even though it is only 50 minutes away.
It would have been nice to have gotten an e-mail, telling me that supe4345 wouldn't be there at all; likewise they could have told us at the door. Unlike the other AO-guys who got bitterly disappointed, I can't really complain because of the fun I had with the one AO-couple. Still I too had of course expected more, from what the other guys had told me before. Who all said that they would not return to this place anymore, as did the AO-couple. So I won't either, except maybe for Sexy-Susi-AO-Gangbangs, and I can't recommend this place to any barebackers.
I guess if I don't have to drive at least a full hour, it's still no use looking for AO-parties in the AO-wasteland Rhineland-Palantine. If there should be any future supe4345-parties advertised on the TP-website, I won't even bother putting them on my map unless it explicitly says "AO". Because yesterday's party was no AO-party. Even though I got lucky!
SwingerLover
04-06-13, 17:12
I forgot to mention "What was talked about" in my report below. Since the guys didn't get much to fuck, there was plenty of opportunity to talk and gossip. So here's what I learned from that which might be of general interest:
Some of the guys are involved with the "AO-Creampie-Workshop" gangbangs in Bochum which last took place on March 1st and 22nd, as you can see on my March-map. (Next one to happen on the first wekend of May, propably on FRI 3rd.) I've heard stories about those gangbangs before, they all described it as superb events of great spermflinging and creampieing swinishness. Stories resembling the infamous LaLuna-Moers-basement-AO-gangbangs from past years. No wonder those guys were pissed off yesterday. So those AO-Creampie-Workshops, like the on March 22nd with 6 women (instead of 4 who were advertised, including Amy Flavo and SexyNatalie) must really be worth going to. Especially for only 60 € for HIV-test, drinks, snacks and rent for the location; and the fucking being for free! (Wink, wink.)
One of the guys confirmed my suspicion I got from Maxime's report about Cancel-Studio in Gelsenkirchen. In his opinion, the place has turned to crap. (Some might ask "Turned?") I can't confirm that, never having been there. But I've lost all interest in even giving it a try.
Another conversation was about Swingerclub Blue Heaven in Gelsenkirchen. Apparently there was a lot of AO going on before, but no more. One talked about Beverly in Solingen, speaking of a "party" with 200 people, but only 3 couples going to the mat for sex at all. What's that got to do with swinging? At least they call themselves "Erotic-Discotheque" instead of Swingerclub, they get a point for that. But they still do "Swingerpartys" where obviously very few do actually swing at all.
Generally I cannot recommend Swingerclubs to anyone anymore. To me, yesterday's party was yet another gravemarker on a dead or dying clubscene. The only clubs I would be inclined to recommend or consider giving a try are the following:
Club BigBamboo in Koblenz. Two huge failures for me nearly 10 years back when they had just opened, I haven't dared to return since, despite it being the club closest to me. Entry is around 30 to 40 € plus paying extra for drinks, so the damage for another failed try would be minimized. And at a special event like the occasional Cap D'Agde revival parties, there might even be hope for some AO going on. Or maybe not.
Absinth Tannenhof in Kaden / Freilingen. The only info so far came from Babilon when he was there in FEB of 2011 and got at least one AO-fuck.
Swingerclub Zum alten Waldhaus in Sprockhövel-Haßlinghausen. I was there twice, first in OCT 2009, then in 2011 and had a good time both times with even one AO-women at each party. And one of them was a real looker. Lately this club has gone to write on their website to go "back to the roots", meaning they want real Swingers again. So there's hope for this place. Since I got AO at two regular parties, I think at their "Direkt-Partys" (one of which is about to start just now as I write this report) AO might be possible too. So I still consider this place.
Then I'm still curious about those "Böse Partys" in Köln and Frechen. Their website gives high hopes, but former comments here (few as they were) were bad. So I don't know.
Aside from the final one coming up below, and aside from clubs rented out to 3rd parties, (like GB01, Sexy-Susi etc) this concludes the list of Swingerclubs I would bother to give a try.
Which brings us to the final one that was talked about yesterday: Club Maria in Dallgow-Rohrbeck near Berlin. I have them on my AO-maps already because of the 3 AO-Parties they do every month. A lot of the guys from yesterday's 'event' have already been there and they are all thrilled with the AO-action going on at this place. Guys from all over Germany seem to travel there even from as far away as Bavaria, to endulge in what seems to be real bareback orgies with dozens of people. If this place wasn't over 6 hours away, I would propably be there 3 times a month.
So who among the ISG-members will do the honors and give this place a try, so we get some first hand information?
SwingerLover
04-18-13, 19:32
so much to fuck, so little time to write reports.
on sat 13th, i decided it was about time to pay claudia in "region: nrw4766x wesel, moers" a visit again for a second ao-party after the one on march 2nd 2012. so i drove to this furthest away location i have ever been to for sex, after making night quarters at a relative's near krefeld. as i recalled from last time, the 20 mins on the autobahn from krefeld to the exit xanten were dragging on forever, despite a speed of 160 km/h. when i finally reached the private location, i parked behind the building, rang the bell and payed the 90 € entrance fee. i had registred by phone in the afternoon; normally this is how you get the adress, but i still knew that from back last year.
when i entered at around 20:15, claudia and janine were sitting on a couch downstairs, dressed in some hooker-outfits complete with suspenders and stockings as advertised and were surrounded by maybe six guys. i had a glass of water, we had some smalltalk, a few minutes later two more guys had arrived and claudia decided it was time to go upstairs to fuck her. the caravan followed. we got upstairs to the second floor, where they had their party area. almost everything was as i remembered it, only the bed in the bedroom was in a right angle to how it was before, put up against the other wall. living room area with a couch to sit & fuck on as before, a table with some chairs, a bathroom with a shower and a tiny kitchen with a fridge containing cold beverages including beer, wine and sparkling wine. there was also some hot food, some goulash soup (which i ignored) and some pasta bolognese (which was very tasty).
as soon as we were upstairs, everybody got undressed, janine got down on the couch in the living room, claudia on the bed in the bedroom and the guys approached. i started with some daty on janine, while she was jerking the dicks of the two guys beside her and giving dfk left and right. when one of the guys was ready to fuck her, i made way and went into the bedroom where claudia was already being fucked. when the guy had finished, i took over banging her for a while. no cum yet, but it got really hot and sweaty. i then stopped and let another one take over, while i went back to the living room and watched janine being couch-fucked, while i was drying myself off with a towel. then it was time for me to fuck janine, who by now was a little creampied. when i started with her, dark vader had just arrived. after i was done with janine, i went for a shower and got a drink. then i got a little red sparkling wine to toast janine in order to celebrate my little jubilee: she was my 150th bareback woman.
during the evening, i went back and forth between talking to dv and other guys, fucking claudia and fucking janine. i believe i fucked janine twice, claudia three times and came once inside each of them. some very dirty creampie-fucking with two genuinely horny german housewifes in a nice private atmosphere with good classic 80s music. and dark vader around to chat with during breaks. all in all a very successful evening with the only drop of bitterness being that it was too short again. shortly after midnight, they called it the night. dv and i were the only ones left anyway. in all there might have been 10 to 12 guys, but no more than 8 at a time. so nothing overcrowded and lots of fun and sex. dv liked it too, so we can both recommend the place. next party will be on fri 19th from 20:00.
after we left and chatted some more in the parking lot, dv and i said our goodbyes, he went looking for a hotel, i drove back to my relative to spend the night. since i already expected the party to be as short as it was the last time, i had made plans to add on another party on sunday, the 14th in krefeld, which was now very closeby. so the next morning after breakfas, t i drove to alte linner straße 7 in krefeld for another one of their sunday-parties. report on that to follow in the krefeld-ao-thread at a later time.
after that party i got back to my relative's to spend another night there. next morning (monday) i had breakfast there again and helped out with some errands, after noon i left to drive home. officially. then i took a little detour towards mönchengladbach to see if the ao-gilf i met at traumpalais on april 5th and took to the ao-party in mg on tue 9th was at home.
i got lucky. she was home, had just arrived a few minutes ago. nice surprise for her too, five minutes later we were in bed fucking like rabbits. great woman! she's horny all day long. i fucked her two more times during the afternoon, then twice again in the evening, taking turns on her with her guy-friend after he had returned from work. i shed a total of 3 loads into her, creating my own creampie-party and left there after 23:00. it was almost 50 hours between the 5th fuck with her and the first one with claudia on sat evening. a total of at least 18 fucks with 8 women and 10 cumshots during that time. what a weekend / start of the week!
next tuesday, i will take her to swingerclub drüber & drunter in mönchengladbach again, for the second ao-party of the krefeld-party-schlampen-team from alte linner straße 7. so anyone at that party who isn't afraid of a chubby gilf and whose dick isn't too big is invited to fuck her, fuck her, fuck her. she'll be the one most creampied!
After I was done with Janine, I went for a shower and got a drink. Then I got a little red sparkling wine to toast Janine in order to celebrate my little jubilee: She was my 150th bareback woman.Do you have one of those mechanical click counters that you hold in your hand and click after each successful conquest? Or a well travelled notebook?
I can't remember anywhere near half of the women that I have barebacked in my life. I try not to think about it too much or attempt to add up the numbers because then I might get just a little scared.
To be honest from just reading some of your reports I would have thought that your total was 10 times that.
SwingerLover
04-18-13, 20:54
No; no note book. But I make it a point of noticing the women I bare-fuck and have developed a memory hook to keep count. That doesn't necessarily mean that I remember every one of them. Especially in Krefeld there were a number of girls you just slide over once and then never meet again. But with some, I even remember the number. Just a few: Gangbang-Natascha was #16, Bad-Girls-Maria was #27, Melanie Moon was #49, Amelie was #53, one-time-only-Emma in Krefeld was #100, crappy Steffi in Krefeld was #143 and Janine was #150. Still remembered from the memory hook. Can't remember which one Claudia was though.
But woe, ten times as much? No sorry, I'm not Jürgen Drews. Maybe you got that impression from the amount of parties. Where I often fuck the same ones over and over again. How had I put it one time? Yes, fucking the same 3 dozen women in the same 5 places over and over again started to feel a bit monogamous. (That had spawned a reply from Wanking, which IMO is still the funniest reply on this forum.)
But not to worry, I lost count of the overall women. With the rubber-fucked ones I lost count somewhere between 120 and 130, so in all they should be at around 300 now. And I don't remember a lot of those either, especially not most of those one-night-stands at Swingerclubs. Still, I like to add a little awareness to the women I fucked and to how many. After all, they are all persons and not just fuck meat. Despite the few of them I would have liked to ship off to the slaughterhouse.
Pity that this time the GB01 party in Stuhr was very disappointing. It looked like Cancel Studio: both announced Tweenies (Aymie Eng and Lara) were not there (Aymie for good reasons, Lara just did not show up.) , so the whole idea of a Tweenie night was gone. The organization did her best to arrange some alternatives, and there were LuLu, Amy Flavo and Leonie (aka Kitty at SG).
So a completely differenty type of line-up, only Leonie could be considered as a slim Tweenie, but she (again) showed her bad attitude of partying by announcing before the start that she goes all the way and "the harder the better", but in real-life, her performance was even more lame than in the last SG party (she is totally unwilling in every aspect, not a GB girl IMHO, so please no re-invite for her!). The two "not so slim MILFS" did their best, but of course appeal to a totally different taste than where the punters came for.
So many man did travel many hundreds of kilometers (also from Belgium, Holland, etc) for a lame party which gave no satisfaction. Since not many good other parties / clubs around in that remote area, I had to drive (again) few hundred kilometers for finding a reasonable alternative (including change of hotel, etc) but ok, that's the risk of parties at such a remote location.
In addition there seems to be a nationwide lack of "HIV tests", so also not all people present could be tested, meaning Safe (no AO) had to be performed (same was true for the latest SG parties, as announced also on their website).
Let's hope this was an isolated incident, and the next parties are going as planned (including renewed availability of self-tests)
The new place is great, has a good erotical atmosphere, and even with so many people, it was not overcrowded. There were more than 10 active woman (and some passive woman, that looked also very good, but were "look only, don't touch", pity, especially the red-headed one.).
From the announced girls, Leonie (known as Dany at SS and Kitty at SG) did not show up (what's new, this girl has not a very good track record in this respect) , but all others (Laura, Lily, Mercedes, Melanie Moon) were there, and even a handful more (with top girls like Jana, Mia Bidz, etc).
So you see it is possible to organize a good party with very good Tweenies, in combination with some good MILFS (despite the latest SG parties, were mostly MILFS were present). Also some amateur couples were there, who gave it all (and more) too!
A night to remember, that's for sure!
SwingerLover
04-22-13, 14:56
Let's hope this was an isolated incident, and the next parties are going as planned (including renewed availability of self-tests)Judging from what I heard and read about the opening party, they seem to have fallen from the top of the world right down to below basement. Too bad.
As for the tests: According to the SG-website, they seem to be available again.
It looked like Cancel Studio: both announced Tweenies (Aymie Eng and Lara) were not there (Aymie for good reasons, Lara just did not show up.) , so the whole idea of a Tweenie night was gone.Typo: the girl who did not show up was Lea (not Lara).
SwingerLover
04-28-13, 13:56
For yesterday evening, SAT 27th from 20:00, there was an AO-Gangbang with Yvi in the Kino of the "18+" Sexshop in Rheinböllen advertised at Poppen.de (under their nickname "RealAOPaar"). With less than 30 minutes driving time and their explicit statement "KFI" (= Keine Finanziellen Interessen; no financial interest) I took that to mean that she wanted to get fucked for free and it would only cost the regular 12 € entrance fee to the Kino. Just like it had been back on SEP 1st 2011, when Natascha the Gangbang Queen and Jessy Cumbitch had been there for a free AO-Gangbang.
Well, when I entered I was told that it would cost 25 €! Because there was a gangbang party. WTF? Forget about the fact that I don't take more money to a porn theatre than I need to and had made a stop at a gas station on my way there and was now standing there with not enough money on me to pay the 25 €. But I consider it flatout fraud if you advertise "KFI" and then ask an additional 13 € once the guys actually show up. And even though only 25 € for an AO-Gangbang was a bargain, I still wouldn't support this kind of fraud. So I turned around and left. 10 € on gas blown away for nothing!
So it was another example of how at Poppen.de 90 % of the registered people seem to be either fakes, lunatics or frauds.
I have been cheated and defrauded way to many times at different places like Hindenburgstraße 218 in Mönchengladbach, relax-today in Kerpen, K7 in Lebach or by Frau Dulent Denise back last year in Krefeld; but someone who advertises "for free", and then more than twice the price of the regular entrance fee is asked when you actually show up, is a first! So beware of "RealAOPaar" and "Yvi" and don't let yourself get lured by supposedly "KFI". And I also think it's wise to stay away from Poppen.de for good.
MammothMeat
04-29-13, 01:21
Hello!
First post, here goes my cherry!
Ok. I want to go to Germany and get my needs filled. It certainly won't happen here in Norway! .
I have been reading lots of reports on this forum, and from what I have read it seems that Berlin, Düsseldorf, Hamburg and possibly Osnabrück are good places for me to visit?
A little bit sceptical to Berlin, I think the combination of hotel and lots of "cheap" sex available will be too much for my wallet! I don't have very much to spend on accomodation, but then again, I don't require much. So maybe one of the smaller cities will suit me better.
I am mostly looking for flatrate clubs (both covered and AO, gangbang) but are also interested in FKK and swingers clubs.
Suggestions?
Hello!
First post, here goes my cherry!
Ok. I want to go to Germany and get my needs filled. It certainly won't happen here in Norway! .
I have been reading lots of reports on this forum, and from what I have read it seems that Berlin, Düsseldorf, Hamburg and possibly Osnabrück are good places for me to visit?
A little bit sceptical to Berlin, I think the combination of hotel and lots of "cheap" sex available will be too much for my wallet! I don't have very much to spend on accomodation, but then again, I don't require much. So maybe one of the smaller cities will suit me better.
I am mostly looking for flatrate clubs (both covered and AO, gangbang) but are also interested in FKK and swingers clubs.
Suggestions?Welcome to the club!
It is a very broad question you ask.
Gangbang parties are the most widespread in NRW (around Dusseldorf) and Hamburg (mainly GB01).
A flatrate club where you can have 1-on-1 sessiones you find also on many places, but there are only few good ones, PC Bochum (+ Dortmund + Munster, same chain) is good exception, only covered, if you want AO flatrate, you get in clubs with (much) lesser looking girls, but if you don't care, you can try LaLuna on Monday and Friday, Cleopetra Arena, etc.
For me, the best girls you find in the better FKK and sauna clubs, but these are seldom flat-rate. Good ones are Oase in Frankfurt (more than 100 stunners with good service!) but smaller ones are mostly again in NRW (Babylon, Freude, Luder Lounge and Bernds are considered high0service clubs). Avoid the big clubs like Golden Time, PHG, Living Room, Villa Vertigo, etc, since there are many "sharks" that ask lot of money, but offer little service (exceptions of course are present in these big clubs). Of course if you are "new" you might be easily impressed by the line up in e.g. GT, but chances you find a stunner offering good service are much lower than in the "service clubs" mentioned.
Enjoy!
If You are mainly interested in flat-rate Clubs, I suggest you stay in Duesseldorf.
This area has by far the widest selection of both AO-Clubs and more regular covered Clubs.
You can easily find hotelels for around 30 euros, and even below that.
Hotels in the smaller cities around Duesseldorf are actually more expensive.
Berlin is not a good option for flat-rate Clubs.
There are only 2, King George and Caligula, both crap, substandard Clubs With impolite even hostile SP.
Wanking has posted a map of flatrate Clubs in Germany and Swingerlover has posted a AO (bareback) map on this forum.
If You are mainly interested in flat-rate Clubs, I suggest you stay in Duesseldorf.
You can easily find hotelels for around 30 euros, and even below that.
Hotels in the smaller cities around Duesseldorf are actually more expensive.Really? If that the case, so I think it; s better to stay in Dusseldorf. Before, I think that will be cheaper to stay in outside Dusseldorf.
Really? If that the case, so I think it; s better to stay in Dusseldorf. Before, I think that will be cheaper to stay in outside Dusseldorf.Http://www.bahn.de/bin/ibeframe.pl?&ibe=HRSsearch&lang=en&country=DEU&location=dusseldorf&startDateDay=29&startDateMonth=4&startDateYear=2013&endDateDay=30&endDateMonth=4&endDateYear=2013&singleRooms=1&doubleRooms=0&adults=1&children=0&minRating=0&dbkanal_007=L01_S01_D001_KIN0001_qf-hotel_LZ003
Here is a link to Deutsche Bahn website.
In addition to provide exellent travel information, it is also possible to book hotel on it.
Be aware that prices in Duesseldorf fluctuates a lot dependending of fairs etc.
MammothMeat
04-30-13, 01:02
Really? If that the case, so I think it; s better to stay in Dusseldorf. Before, I think that will be cheaper to stay in outside Dusseldorf.I have been looking for hotels in Düsseldorf online, and it looks like I'll have to fork out around $800-1000 for a two week stay in the period I had in mind.
It seems it would be cheaper to rent an apartment for a full month, rather than stay at a hotel for two weeks.
Looks like I'll have to so some more digging, and try to set a more definitive date for my travels.
Thanks guy's! Much appreciated!
Http://www.bahn.de/bin/ibeframe.pl?&ibe=HRSsearch&lang=en&country=DEU&location=dusseldorf&startDateDay=29&startDateMonth=4&startDateYear=2013&endDateDay=30&endDateMonth=4&endDateYear=2013&singleRooms=1&doubleRooms=0&adults=1&children=0&minRating=0&dbkanal_007=L01_S01_D001_KIN0001_qf-hotel_LZ003
Here is a link to Deutsche Bahn website.
In addition to provide exellent travel information, it is also possible to book hotel on it.
Be aware that prices in Duesseldorf fluctuates a lot dependending of fairs etc.That's very usefull informations. So we can save money on hotels, and spend more on FKK / PT / GB. Thank you very much Whorist.
FrenchieAtlanti
04-30-13, 15:39
Hi there,
Is someone have news of Gundula? She was one of more active girl in AO party and I don't see her in the AO parties events.
I have been looking for hotels in Düsseldorf online, and it looks like I'll have to fork out around $800-1000 for a two week stay in the period I had in mind.
It seems it would be cheaper to rent an apartment for a full month, rather than stay at a hotel for two weeks.
Looks like I'll have to so some more digging, and try to set a more definitive date for my travels.
Thanks guy's! Much appreciated!Hi. You may want to have a look at this website. That could be decent accommodation for you. Cheers.
www.apartments-duesseldorf.de
MammothMeat
04-30-13, 23:26
Hi. You may want to have a look at this website. That could be decent accommodation for you. Cheers.
www.apartments-duesseldorf.deVery nice apartments, but out of my price-range unfortunately.
Maximum I'm willing to pay for a one-month stay is €500-550, and thats painful enough already.
Gloveler. Com have some nice affordable apartments / rooms that I'm checking out.
[QUOTE=Hbengkok; 1417042]That's very usefull informations. So we can save money on hotels, and spend more on FKK / PT / GB. Thank you very much Whorist. [/QUOTE.
Here is a link to a Google map :
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=210980961214256580520.00045d515d0f87adf527e&msa=0
It is the most comprehensive I have seen yet, as it covers partytreffs, saunaclubs, brothels, gangbangclubs etc. In Germany, Austria and The Netherlands.
SwingerLover
05-05-13, 16:07
Is someone have news of Gundula? She was one of more active girl in AO party and I don't see her in the AO parties events.Yes, you and me both. I was also wondering about her whereabouts. During the past months, she was only advertised occasionally for rubber-parties. Like she is tomorrow at Traumpalais in Heidesheim together with Marina Montana: http://www.swingerclub-traumpalais.com/event.php?id=6954
Hi all and esp Swinglover,
I will be in Germany in August for 3 days and yes its a little early but I need to plan as I will be booking my flight soon. At first I wanted to stay in Frankfurt as I was thinking about Palace and Oase but now I read a lot about flat rate clubs, AO parties and partytreff. With 3 days in Germany I want to be greedy and try a bit of both FKK and partytreff. But most flat rates are in Düsseldorf. Are there any in Frankfurt? I need to fly out from Frankfurt as I had booked an International flight back to Asia. Do you suggest that I stay in Düsseldorf instead to enjoy the partytreff.
The most ideal for me is to stay in Frankfurt and visit Palace, Oase and get to some AO parties or partytreff nearby. Any suggestions? Is it convenient to travel to Düsseldorf from Frankfurt for a partytreff?
SwingerLover
05-08-13, 18:02
Is it convenient to travel to Düsseldorf from Frankfurt for a partytreff?It is manageable if you have a car.
For suggestions where to go, it's too early. Wait until mid July to check on what's happening where.
It is manageable if you have a car.
For suggestions where to go, it's too early. Wait until mid July to check on what's happening where.Well I do not have a car and don't plan of renting unless the party is just too tempting. Waiting till mid July might be too late to book cheap flights as I am flying in from London. There aren't any partytreff in Frankfurt as I search and I think it is so strange. How come?
How do I get to the nearest partytreff from Frankfurt.
SwingerLover
05-09-13, 15:47
Well I do not have a car and don't plan of renting unless the party is just too tempting. Waiting till mid July might be too late to book cheap flights as I am flying in from London. There aren't any partytreff in Frankfurt as I search and I think it is so strange. How come?
How do I get to the nearest partytreff from Frankfurt.Nah, not waiting until mid July to book the flight, but to decide where to go! Book the flight as early (and as convenient and cheap) as possible. Then decide where to go once you are here. Some events, especially AO-parties, have an irregular schedule, which makes planning difficult. So it's even more difficult to give advice without knowing the exact dates of your 3 days in Germany. For instance: There MAY be a Gangbang01-event at Swingerclub Love Lounge in Mörfelden near Frankfurt in August, but there's no telling until they list it on their website a few weeks before.
No Partytreff in Frankfurt, how come? Simple: The City of Frankfurt and it's officials have a bunch of loose screws and even some missing screws, from what I can tell based on stories I heard. That's why. Treff-188 moved from Frankfurt to Eschborn because Joana was finally fed up with the nonsense, annoyance and molestations she had to deal with in Frankfurt. So she did like the "Deutsche Börse" (stock exchange) and moved from Frankfurt to Eschborn, where she is left in peace. Interesting side-aspect: The current location in Eschborn is less than 3 km away from their original location in Frankfurt-Sossenheim. So here's your closest non-AO Partytreff NEAR Frankfurt: Treff-188, Düsseldorfer Straße 1 in 65936 Eschborn. http://treff-188.de/home.html
For Bareback, you will have to wait for relevant advertising closer to your dates. Currently there's a couple doing AO-parties in Frankfurt; check my May-party-map for details.
SwingerLover
05-09-13, 17:52
someone have news of Gundula?
During the past months, she was only advertised occasionally for rubber-parties.And another rubbers-only party with Gundula and 4 other non-AO porn chicks at Burg Ibiza in Fürstenfeldbruck next TUE, May 14th: http://www.burg-ibiza.de/gangbang-parties/gangbang-mit-pornodarstellerin.php
For Bareback, you will have to wait for relevant advertising closer to your dates. Currently there's a couple doing AO-parties in Frankfurt; check my May-party-map for details.[/QUOTE]Thank you so much Swinglover. I know I can depend on you. I will be in Frankfurt 20-23 August. Wonder if there are any guys around that time visiting. Maybe we can go together. Reinforcement in sexual encounter makes it exciting. Will contact you again as the dates draws nearer, Mr. Swinglover.
FunLover100
05-10-13, 22:00
Hi,
I'm finally making a trip to Berlin, and have been reading all the forums. Its amazing and exciting what all Germany has to offer! Looking forward to sampling some of the unique ones. Partyreff, FKKs, Laufhauses.
I wanted to ask about Berlin though. Are there any bareback AO clubs? I know there's Insomnia, Caligula, KD, Erlebniswohnung. But none seem to have the bareback AO club parties? And do the bareback ones include anal?
What would you recommend between a trip to Erlebniswohnung and any of the AO clubs like Caligula? My understanding is that at the clubs you get individual time with a woman, while at the partyreff its basically a gangbang. Which has hotter women though? And will you get a chance to fuck everyone of the hot ones at a party?
Also. Where is the next best place to visit, if I was to travel from Berlin for a day / night? Any exciting parties / clubs worth visiting? Hopefully something close, inexpensive to get to, with an experience worth the trip.
Thanks!
Hi,
I'm finally making a trip to Berlin, and have been reading all the forums. Its amazing and exciting what all Germany has to offer! Looking forward to sampling some of the unique ones. Partyreff, FKKs, Laufhauses.
I wanted to ask about Berlin though. Are there any bareback AO clubs? I know there's Insomnia, Caligula, KD, Erlebniswohnung. But none seem to have the bareback AO club parties? And do the bareback ones include anal?
What would you recommend between a trip to Erlebniswohnung and any of the AO clubs like Caligula? My understanding is that at the clubs you get individual time with a woman, while at the partyreff its basically a gangbang. Which has hotter women though? And will you get a chance to fuck everyone of the hot ones at a party?
Also. Where is the next best place to visit, if I was to travel from Berlin for a day / night? Any exciting parties / clubs worth visiting? Hopefully something close, inexpensive to get to, with an experience worth the trip.
Thanks!Of the above mentioned Clubs, only Caligula is a partytreff.
Insomnia is a swingerclub, somtimes with gangbangs with hired ladies.
KD (kamilla Dee?) is a regular brothel.
Erlebniswohnung is a true gangbang-venue.
It seems to me you have misunderstood something.
Caligula is not an AO-Club.
It doesn't offer bareback sex, and there are no gangbans.
By the way it is a lousy place with unfriendly, ugly ladies.
Erelebniswohnung has better looking and friendlier ladies, but it is an entirely different type of venue.
Here gangbangs takes place in rooms with open doors.
The Place is often crowded, which results in many men "sharing" one women.
A typical scene is one lady beeing shagged from behind while giving blowjobs in turn to men queing up, while at the same time jerking of men.
But there are no bareback (AO) sex here.
Most of the ladies do blowjobs without condom thoug.
Many men spend their recuperation-time sitting on couches wathing the action (ore waiting for the beds to be less crowded.
Certainly not for shy men.
It is hard to reckomend one particular place as these clubs are so different.
It seems to me you should go to the duesseldorf area instead.
There you have the largest concentration of partytreffs, some of them offering bareback sex.
There are only two partytreffs in Berlin; Caligula and King George, and both are crap.
Maybe you find this link helpful.
There are some gangbangs advertised, also on rare occasions bareback.
http://www.berlinintim.de/
FunLover100
05-11-13, 20:44
Of the above mentioned Clubs, only Caligula is a partytreff.
It is hard to reckomend one particular place as these clubs are so different.
It seems to me you should go to the duesseldorf area instead.
There you have the largest concentration of partytreffs, some of them offering bareback sex.
There are only two partytreffs in Berlin; Caligula and King George, and both are crap.
Maybe you find this link helpful.
There are some gangbangs advertised, also on rare occasions bareback.
http://www.berlinintim.de/Thanks a ton W! There was no confusion. I just think I just misused the word partytreff, which I may not be clear about. But no confusion about what goes on in each of the places. Caligula and King George. They are one-time entry fee, fuck as many girls as you like, right. But the quality is bad? Any particular time or day when it is at its best, which may be bearable? It seems from some of the reviews that its better to avoid these then. So no real good one-time fee, all included place in and around Berlin?
Also seems hard to find bareback AO in Berlin. My plan is to try:
- Artemis
- Erlebniswohnung . If I feel like subjecting myself to queuing up for a blowjob. Depends on the quality of women I guess.
- Bordellos (KD, Tiffany, Royal)
Any where close to Berlin, say driving distance which is a good AO bareback party? Else I'll see if I have the time to hop on a train to Dusseldorf. If I really want to try one.
Thanks again! Looking forward to the trip.
To FunLover100.
I have never been there, but Club Maria has AO party few nights each month. AFAIK, this is normally a swinger club. It is located outside Berlin in Dallgow-Rohrbeck, about 30 km away. I have no idea what this place is like nor I have read any report on it. Would love it if someone check it out and report back.
Check their calendar for AO party: http://www.club-maria.de/2013.htm
SM
Thanks a ton W! There was no confusion. I just think I just misused the word partytreff, which I may not be clear about. But no confusion about what goes on in each of the places. Caligula and King George. They are one-time entry fee, fuck as many girls as you like, right. But the quality is bad? Any particular time or day when it is at its best, which may be bearable? It seems from some of the reviews that its better to avoid these then. So no real good one-time fee, all included place in and around Berlin?
Also seems hard to find bareback AO in Berlin. My plan is to try:
- Artemis
- Erlebniswohnung. If I feel like subjecting myself to queuing up for a blowjob. Depends on the quality of women I guess.
- Bordellos (KD, Tiffany, Royal)
Any where close to Berlin, say driving distance which is a good AO bareback party? Else I'll see if I have the time to hop on a train to Dusseldorf. If I really want to try one.
Thanks again! Looking forward to the trip.Here is a link to Swingerlover's AO map.
As you can see, most venues are in the Duesseldorf area, as is the case for regular partytreffs.
https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=209133023052794765628.0004cdc07b563bfe874c2&msa=0
Dark Vader
05-12-13, 11:24
I have never been there, but Club Maria has AO party few nights each month. AFAIK, this is normally a swinger club. It is located outside Berlin in Dallgow-Rohrbeck, about 30 km away. I have no idea what this place is like nor I have read any report on it. Would love it if someone check it out and report back.
SMAs it so happens I'm thinking of paying a visit there next month if I don't get side-tracked by the equally compelling option of Erlebniswohung.
SwingerLover
05-12-13, 14:29
And may I also direct you to my AO-maps for May & June: http://goo.gl/maps/AfK7N & http://goo.gl/maps/9QbPR
As you can see, there are some AO-events in Berlin occasionally, but not much anywhere near Berlin, except for Club Maria. I haven't been there either, but from what I've heard so far, you should except some heavy duty bareback orgy action at their AO-parties.
As it so happens I'm thinking of paying a visit there next month if I don't get side-tracked by the equally compelling option of Erlebniswohung.DV, Club Maria opens 8:00 pm - 3:00 am. With your stamina, I'm sure you have no problem visiting both clubs in the same day.
SwingerLover
05-12-13, 19:21
DV, and if you go there on the 7th & 8th of June, you can do both parties in a row for a total of 120 €. www.club-maria.de/partyinfo-AO-sep.htm
ThomasNorway
05-13-13, 06:15
And may I also direct you to my AO-maps for May & June:
http://goo.gl/maps/AfK7N
&
http://goo.gl/maps/9QbPR
As you can see, there are some AO-events in Berlin occasionally, but not much anywhere near Berlin, except for Club Maria. I haven't been there either, but from what I've heard so far, you should except some heavy duty bareback orgy action at their AO-parties.Eves Diamonds, Am Schomm 7, 41199 Mönchengladbach. Odenkirchen.
Oppdatert Apr 30.
Propably on FRI 24th 11-20:00: Diamond FKK-Party with Eva, Francesca & Sarah for 120 €.
www.eva-freundin.de/evas-events.html
Phone: 0152-05797582.
I found this event on the June map and suspect it belongs on the May map, considering that the 24th is a Sunday, not a Friday, in June? .
Thanks for your awesome work on the maps!
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