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I was at sharks yesterday, the place is amazing but some negatives (1) the prices went from 50 to 100 (2) good service is not guaranteed.
Anyways, there are many girls, I saw -at least- 10 girls I would like to pay 100/30 minutes, but I can't do more than 4 rooms a day.Low level for looks on my 2 September visits on a Thursday and Friday and very average in bed for new star Bibi. Other new stars: Nina, Liv and Kendra are really not impressive looks, when I have now 2 German escorts, last is 1,80 ex model and for 110/60 with real french kiss, very soft BBBJ, she didn't speak about money, when Sofi. De ask 200/60 at Sharks and some little Dacia with no engine ask 150/30 . Coming from Italy, I didn't touch brakes to stop at Sharks, but drove nearly 300 kms more for much higher quality for less expensive. If I want to save to pay gas for my 3000 kms week ends, I need to go to quality for around 100/60 . Upselling girls are not the best quality, high level girls are usually smarter than just one shot fucking clients.
I stumbled upon Sharks pre-Covid and my mind was blond. Made it a point to visit multiple times as part of work trips.
Went back in August and the same magic just wasn't there. Still a good quantity of girls but not the same level of looks (not to mention the increased prices). I understand it may take some more time post-Covid to recover but I'm skeptical if it ever will.
I'm partial to German girls and there weren't any. Pre-Covid there was a tall blonde German girl named Leonie or Leony. She doesn't seem to be discussed on here much but I wish she would return.
It just feels unfair to only get a taste of mind-blowing FKK experiences to only have it taken away, with no certainty it will get back to what it was. Debating whether I give it another chance later this year.I met and sessioned with Leonie many times in 2018. She was one of my favorites in Sharks. 100% GFE. Very nice girl. Strange thing is some days I would go to Sharks and choose other girls and would see her watching me and would feel a little weird as if I'm cheating on her. She was that good.
I was in Sharks Last week. Only quantity of lineup could be as same as pre-covid.
I saw Amanda (always came to me ask for business), Ashley, melisa, Emma, Mina (Cosmina), Hilary, Roxi, Ruby, Esther, Denisa, Etc. Could be 100+. Many girls worked before pandemic. Bianca, Mickey, Claudia and annalise joined this year but they are not pretty.
I Finally found The girl I mentioned last time. She is not as slim as I expected. She is not as fresh as 18 yo innocent girl either. She told me her rate was 100/30 or 200/60 for basic. I still wanted to try. Long story short, we stayed 55 minutes in room. Service was standard but not much highlight. However she claimed I stayed longer than one hour. I showed her the the time, she then asked me to pay her extra 50 euro tips. She said lots of customers paid her 150/30 or 300/60. BS. I didn't believe that. I asked who paid that much to her. She said German, or customers from Switzerland and France usually paid her big money. Damn Sir. I said I could only give her 30 euro tips. She accepted.
I once reserved 1000 euros for her. But only used 230. LOL. Not repeat.
Denise used new name (I forgot). She is 22 yo now. Ashley and Esther were not attractive anymore. I left early again.
I agree that lineup is almost as good as pre-Covid. Service is still lacking in spite of the price increase.
You have a name for the girl? This group is notorious for upsell. Tamara? Emma? Ellie? Serena? Emma?I've seen Tamara three times and never had to deal with any upselling from her.
However I've not roomed with her on my last two trips.
Low level for looks on my 2 September visits on a Thursday and Friday and very average in bed for new star Bibi. Other new stars: Nina, Liv and Kendra are really not impressive looks, when I have now 2 German escorts, last is 1,80 ex model and for 110/60 with real french kiss, very soft BBBJ, she didn't speak about money, when Sofi. De ask 200/60 at Sharks and some little Dacia with no engine ask 150/30 . Coming from Italy, I didn't touch brakes to stop at Sharks, but drove nearly 300 kms more for much higher quality for less expensive. If I want to save to pay gas for my 3000 kms week ends, I need to go to quality for around 100/60 . Upselling girls are not the best quality, high level girls are usually smarter than just one shot fucking clients.Did you see Kitty? I guess you will like, she is on the same level with Melissa.
Kitty sits on the sofas in middle of the club, between the bar and the fish tank.
HammerTime96
10-10-22, 18:34
I agree that lineup is almost as good as pre-Covid. Service is still lacking in spite of the price increase.No, it's not "in spite of the price increase" but it's [b]because[ / be] of the price increase!
WGs know that most dumb sex tourists will pay any amount for an average fuck & suck.
No, it's not "in spite of the price increase" but it's [b]because[/be] of the price increase!
WGs know that most dumb sex tourists will pay any amount for an average fuck & suck.Yes, Sharks girls followed what did Oase girls few years ago, upselling, knowing tourists and even many French will pay, even for average looks and low quality, when can still find high level girls for around 100/60 , but elsewhere in Germany.
I was in Sharks Last week. Only quantity of lineup could be as same as pre-covid.
I saw Amanda (always came to me ask for business), Ashley, melisa, Emma, Mina (Cosmina), Hilary, Roxi, Ruby, Esther, Denisa, Etc. Could be 100+. Many girls worked before pandemic. Bianca, Mickey, Claudia and annalise joined this year but they are not pretty.
I Finally found The girl I mentioned last time. She is not as slim as I expected. She is not as fresh as 18 yo innocent girl either. She told me her rate was 100/30 or 200/60 for basic. I still wanted to try. Long story short, we stayed 55 minutes in room. Service was standard but not much highlight. However she claimed I stayed longer than one hour. I showed her the the time, she then asked me to pay her extra 50 euro tips. She said lots of customers paid her 150/30 or 300/60. BS. I didn't believe that. I asked who paid that much to her. She said German, or customers from Switzerland and France usually paid her big money. Damn Sir. I said I could only give her 30 euro tips. She accepted.
I once reserved 1000 euros for her. But only used 230. LOL. Not repeat.
Denise used new name (I forgot). She is 22 yo now. Ashley and Esther were not attractive anymore. I left early again.I gave 150 for a very full hour, more than 60 mn, to Bibi and it was very well paid for her so average level, but received a kiss at lockers. And she is one of new star at Sharks now level.
Did you see Kitty? I guess you will like, she is on the same level with Melissa.
Kitty sits on the sofas in middle of the club, between the bar and the fish tank.I would be happy to find a elegant natural beauty, when really difficult to find only 1 desirable for my eyes. After Vanessa and Sofi at Sharks, my exceptionnal in Rhur and a new 1,80 at 6 , I m in good year for German girls, all of them without silicon and tall, only Klara at Globe has silicon. I would repeat with Sofi if not asking 200/60 . My new German model from escorting is for 110/60 and she doesn't speak about money.
Liz is blond at the bar close to stairs to rooms?Yep, that's her.
You have a name for the girl? This group is notorious for upsell. Tamara? Emma? Ellie? Serena? Emma?I don't remember her name but most likely it was Serena.
I gave 150 for a very full hour, more than 60 mn, to Bibi and it was very well paid for her so average level, but received a kiss at lockers. And she is one of new star at Sharks now level.She told me That one French customer before me that day paid her 230 for 30 min GFE+BBJ+CIM. I think you would not overpay her due to your status. But your rich French friend could afford that.
I've seen Tamara three times and never had to deal with any upselling from her.
However I've not roomed with her on my last two trips.Tamara started the upselling back in March of this year. I saw her pre Covid for 100 for60 but now it's 100 for30 or 200 for60. Hard pass for me.
Tamara started the upselling back in March of this year. I saw her pre Covid for 100 for60 but now it's 100 for30 or 200 for60. Hard pass for me.I must have good negotiation skills because I was still getting an hour for €150 during the summer.
Maybe because I'd seen her a few times?
I'm not sure but I got the impression she is one of the "Asian hunters" who had to change their game plan after covid due to the lack of Asian visitors?
They seem to have returned now so maybe her strategy has changed again?
My first time with her was brilliant but subsequent rooms have never "lived up" to that first room although they were still ok.
Over time I've had 3/4 girls at Sharks who I regularly roomed with but all have since gone, these days like Tamara, after a few rooms I eventually get bored and look for new experiences.
She told me That one French customer before me that day paid her 230 for 30 min GFE+BBJ+CIM. I think you would not overpay her due to your status. But your rich French friend could afford that.How does one have GFE (Girlfriend experience) in 30 minutes? That doesn't make sense to me. GFE in my book is an actual date outside of the brothel/club, or at atleast a few hours.
Anyways, there are many girls, I saw -at least- 10 girls I would like to pay 100/30 minutes, but I can't do more than 4 rooms a day.
I usually only did about 4-5 rooms but upped it to 6-7 rooms when I knew I was going to be leaving Germany for a new job.
I havent seen the lineup lately, but there was always a good 5-7 that could get me in the mood with no problem. Brenda was one of them as well as a few tall Germans I would frequent. Also there were two girls (look like twins, I think Moldovan) who had these Brazilian butt lifts. I really miss them.
She told me That one French customer before me that day paid her 230 for 30 min GFE+BBJ+CIM. I think you would not overpay her due to your status. But your rich French friend could afford that.She is full natural with beautiful smile, but not a supermodel. For me, not able to kiss like a woman, average skill for BJ even quite deep, very average level for sex, so had to work on her, only funny for me was her nipples growing hardening, same like Katalea. I'm pretty sure she is not so newbie in business when she tell to speak Italian and Spanish. When I thought I worked for her, she was quite low level for me, when I chose her because no other desirable on this poor casting Friday 9 September for me, when I come now only with 150 for girls at Sharks, so I told her I had only 150, truth, and I thought 150 was very high paid for her low level, even for 65/70 mn when I most often worked. With my only 150 and I won t take more for Sharks girls level, I can t repeat with German Sofi who is far higher level for sex than Bibi and with more charm looking like a woman than others at Sharks. But I have 2 Germans for 100/110/60, one outstanding is for 200/120 or longer, one new, ex model and escort for 110/60 and a ex real model in Paris NL for 160/60 finishing in her mouth, all 3 on far higher level than at Sharks which casting is on second league for me on this year, same like Globe is also on second league compare to fresh beauties at Freubad. But You are right, I m a very different and bad French, when many French enjoy and return at Sharks, when I find higher level elsewhere on this year. At Freubad, in NRW and NL.
How does one have GFE (Girlfriend experience) in 30 minutes? That doesn't make sense to me. GFE in my book is an actual date outside of the brothel/club, or at atleast a few hours.
I usually only did about 4-5 rooms but upped it to 6-7 rooms when I knew I was going to be leaving Germany for a new job.
I havent seen the lineup lately, but there was always a good 5-7 that could get me in the mood with no problem. Brenda was one of them as well as a few tall Germans I would frequent. Also there were two girls (look like twins, I think Moldovan) who had these Brazilian butt lifts. I really miss them.When GFE mean for me feeling like with a girlfriend, when I couldn't have stayed with a girlfriend not kissing me, when my GFE foreplay: kissing, caressing, DATY are usually for more than 30 mn, and some will even tell Bibi or little lesbi Kendra are GFE, when not really kissing, when they are only fucking clients asking expensive for their low quality and not even supermodel looks. We don't all have same level of expectation, from our private standards.
HammerTime96
10-12-22, 10:14
I once reserved 1000 euros for her. But only used 230. LOL. Not repeat.Overpaying by 80 Euros (more than 50%) for a "not repeat" service? Even tipping her?
Guess who is having the last LOL and is already fleecing the next dumb-as-a-brick sex tourist?
Spoiler alert: it's not you. .
I visited Sharks club 4 times in the past one month. I actually spent much less money than I did before pandemic. Not for WG raising the price but for lacking quality of optics.
Hey dude, don't be jealous that Americans making a fortune. After all Euro has depreciated 20% in a year.
The current scenario is like this: we go to Germany and would like to pay big money to buy BMW 760. However local dealers could only provide shabby Peugeot 508 but demand BMW price.
Due to low quality of girls, inside club there were barely rich Asians or Americans who usually are considered as scapegoats for price increasing. Funny!
I actually met and chat with a group of mid-age guys from Netherlands. One of them paid Mellisa about 300 for less than one hour room.
And also, there were quite a few rich "Frenchmen" paid Bibi 300/60 as Siri confirmed.
So cheaper charlies should accuse these "rich" Europeans instead of Americans or Asians. After all now there are less than 1% FKK customers are Americans or Asians.
Overpaying by 80 Euros (more than 50%) for a "not repeat" service? Even tipping her?
Guess who is having the last LOL and is already fleecing the next dumb-as-a-brick sex tourist?
Spoiler alert: it's not you. .
She is full natural with beautiful smile, but not a supermodel.......
But You are right, I m a very different and bad French, when many French enjoy and return at Sharks, when I find higher level elsewhere on this year. At Freubad, in NRW and NL.
Overpaying by 80 Euros (more than 50%) for a "not repeat" service? Even tipping her?
Guess who is having the last LOL and is already fleecing the next dumb-as-a-brick sex tourist?
Spoiler alert: it's not you. .Bibi ask 100 per 30 mn and not the only one, when some not pretty and not able to kiss like a woman ask 150/30 . Sharks girls turn crazy, when they should look how they look in mirror. When I thought she doesn't worth so expensive and anyway I won't spend more than 150 per day for Sharks girls, when I will have to put gas in V8 4. 2 . I think starting engine and listening to noise will make me more hard than Sharks looks.
Ibn Buttita
10-12-22, 23:33
Taking advantage of a full-day layover between flights, I walked into Sharks on a mid-September Sunday fearing the worst, having read depressing reports lately about the lineup, and anticipating that I was going to be offered uninspired service and be met with bad attitudes. But none of that was the case. I thought the girls looked up to par with past FKK visits, with a nice range in body types and look, and there were a majority of girls not covering up with lingerie (though all three I went with did have some sort of garment on).
True, the new price structure is annoying and after a budget friendly several day NRW trip in August ("A threesome, why not. It's a bargain!" I said several times on that visit), I could see how the Hessen rates can constrain you. But for a day's layover before a flight I could live with the cost. And it's still a great place to relax: eating a custom cooked omelet poolside followed by a nap on the couch, checking out the girls below while sitting in the upstairs whirlpool, enjoying the sauna infusions these complemented my three sessions well, now that the approaching big 5-0 means that sheer daily quantity isn't a must anymore. There were a number of other girls I would have liked to add to my day's tally, but time and energy limitations meant that trying to squeeze them in would have been pointless.
My first session was with Nicole, a slender blond Romanian in a sheer black top who approached me when I entered. I declined so I could eat breakfast but saw her again and went for a 100 Euro half hour session. She did ask about extras and a tip but her attitude was positive. Her blowjob skills are rather good and I finished in her mouth for the 50 extra.
After my spa day activities I approached a girl I had spotted several times, a short, cute, curvy brunette named Malena. Sadly, she covered her butt in a wrap, but I found her to have a nice body contrast with Nicole. We agreed on a 100 half hour session, and when she got even shorter out of her stripper heels I kidded her that she had misrepresented herself as being a tall girl. I loved squeezing her curvy ass and generous tits. She kissed and 69'the to my satisfaction, and with her petite body and bubble butt was ideal for a cum in flat / lazy doggy mode.
For my last session I approached a lithe olive skinned girl I figured for either Latina or gypsy. She turned out to be from Venezuela, and this session bookended my two Frankfurt mongering layovers as a satisfying contrast to the uninspired Red Light District Venezuelan girl I visited a week prior. I went for an hour but despite her holding the line on anything less than 200 for the hour it was worth it, since here was top notch deep kissing, super oral on and from her (she was good at guiding me on how she liked her pussy licked), and some proper energetic fucking. A good finale to my first post-pandemic Sharks-cursion.
I visited Sharks club 4 times in the past one month. I actually spent much less money than I did before pandemic. Not for WG raising the price but for lacking quality of optics.
Hey dude, don't be jealous that Americans making a fortune. After all Euro has depreciated 20% in a year.
The current scenario is like this: we go to Germany and would like to pay big money to buy BMW 760. However local dealers could only provide shabby Peugeot 508 but demand BMW price.
Due to low quality of girls, inside club there were barely rich Asians or Americans who usually are considered as scapegoats for price increasing. Funny!
I actually met and chat with a group of mid-age guys from Netherlands. One of them paid Mellisa about 300 for less than one hour room.
And also, there were quite a few rich "Frenchmen" paid Bibi 300/60 as Siri confirmed.
So cheaper charlies should accuse these "rich" Europeans instead of Americans or Asians. After all now there are less than 1% FKK customers are Americans or Asians.No, Bibi ask 200/60 not 300, when she doesn't even worth 200. USD is strong only because of war and will fall after, when US economy will be in trouble. I fully agree about low level for looks at Sharks and not many high level for GFE on 2022, big fall and upselling in 1 year. I visited weekly with 2 hours in room on 2021, I think I spent less than 4 hours in room at Sharks on 2022. Club is good, but I save my money from Sharks girls not worthing so expensive they ask, so I can buy car I will prepare for 300 on autobahns. Playful when I drive between Aachen, Dortmund, Bavaria or Lorrach.
Any information on the natural, young looking girl who stands at bar near the stairs (a few seat away from Emma & Melanie)? She is short height, have skinny body with very long straight hair down past her elbow I think, hair color is natural darker brown but tips show some fading blonde dye. Did not look like she use much make-ups, so it's nice natural innocence look.
Not sure her name, maybe Simona or Serena, but she told me she was waiting for some other customer so no opportunity for my room. But I never saw her go upstairs to a room even after several other man talk to her at bar. She just look like she stand at bar to talk hours with one friend who have larger body build.
Her service is good and she is nice? Or as Sirioja may sometimes complain, she is too small to make good service?
Any information on the natural, young looking girl who stands at bar near the stairs (a few seat away from Emma & Melanie)? She is short height, have skinny body with very long straight hair down past her elbow I think, hair color is natural darker brown but tips show some fading blonde dye. Did not look like she use much make-ups, so it's nice natural innocence look.
Not sure her name, maybe Simona or Serena, but she told me she was waiting for some other customer so no opportunity for my room. But I never saw her go upstairs to a room even after several other man talk to her at bar. She just look like she stand at bar to talk hours with one friend who have larger body build.
Her service is good and she is nice? Or as Sirioja may sometimes complain, she is too small to make good service?I never wrote short girls can't give good, but I'm more impressed by long legs than asses rubbing the floor like little ducks. Impressive looks worth more expensive for me than little ducks.
Larrybutler443
10-13-22, 23:44
Hello everyone,
It has been a while since I have been able to visit sharks. I was wondering is Anjelika (Lithuanian) still at Sharks?
Hyperion2007
10-14-22, 07:58
Any information on the natural, young looking girl who stands at bar near the stairs (a few seat away from Emma & Melanie)? She is short height, have skinny body with very long straight hair down past her elbow I think, hair color is natural darker brown but tips show some fading blonde dye. Did not look like she use much make-ups, so it's nice natural innocence look.
Not sure her name, maybe Simona or Serena, but she told me she was waiting for some other customer so no opportunity for my room. But I never saw her go upstairs to a room even after several other man talk to her at bar. She just look like she stand at bar to talk hours with one friend who have larger body build.
Her service is good and she is nice? Or as Sirioja may sometimes complain, she is too small to make good service?It's Simona (there is also a Serena but she has fake tits). She's a beauty but if you don't see her work much there is a reason: she's rather dull in the room. I have been with her once and it was just OK.
She does 100430, 200460 and she doesn't kiss at all (no extra possible).
She's the great friend of Angela and do trio with her.
Hyperion2007
10-15-22, 11:37
Hello everyone,
It has been a while since I have been able to visit sharks. I was wondering is Anjelika (Lithuanian) still at Sharks?An Anjelika is in Sharks: 40+ (even perhaps 50+), with massive tits and an enormous ass. Here almost every day, arrive around noon.
TankTank123
10-15-22, 12:11
Hello everyone,
It has been a while since I have been able to visit sharks. I was wondering is Anjelika (Lithuanian) still at Sharks?The long-time Latvian Anjelika was present at Sharks a few days ago.
TankTank123
10-15-22, 12:25
It's Simona (there is also a Serena but she has fake tits). She's a beauty but if you don't see her work much there is a reason: she's rather dull in the room. I have been with her once and it was just OK.Yes, it is Simona, and she is indeed dull in the room. However, she is even more beautiful when she smiles close-up. I will not be repeating though.
Seated not far from her is the pre-covid Serena who has returned with silicones, which I thought was not much better than her previously small, oddly-shaped tits. She used to be an Asian hunter, but has few targets these days. Over 3 days last week, I did not see her with a single customer.
However one Asian Hunter seems to be doing very well now with Europeans. Emma.
Larrybutler443
10-16-22, 22:33
Do you all have any good recommendations for women who perform anal in sharks? Also, what price should we be willing to pay based on your recommendations? Don't want to over pay and mess up the market. I prefer women with a bit more curves so anyone who fits the description will be as the top of my list.
Do you all have any good recommendations for women who perform anal in sharks? Also, what price should we be willing to pay based on your recommendations? Don't want to over pay and mess up the market. I prefer women with a bit more curves so anyone who fits the description will be as the top of my list.If you like women with curves then I doubt you'd find a better FKK than Sharks, most of the girls have them and mot of those in the wrong places. Not sure on the going rate for anal, I know it used to be 50 pre-pandemic but not sure if that's gone up to 100 post pandemic. Others that partake will clarify.
Hyperion2007
10-18-22, 15:05
If you like women with curves then I doubt you'd find a better FKK than Sharks, most of the girls have them and mot of those in the wrong places. Not sure on the going rate for anal, I know it used to be 50 pre-pandemic but not sure if that's gone up to 100 post pandemic. Others that partake will clarify.100 is the default rate for anal in Sharks.
From what I heard Shiva (not sure of the name, Iranian origin, short hair, arrive always very late) is a good bet if you like curvy girls.
For slim ones, Nadine, Mirian and Adrianna are famous for it.
If you like women with curves then I doubt you'd find a better FKK than Sharks, most of the girls have them and mot of those in the wrong places. Not sure on the going rate for anal, I know it used to be 50 pre-pandemic but not sure if that's gone up to 100 post pandemic. Others that partake will clarify.Anal is usually at least 100 in Hessen and already before covid. Assholes may be prettier than faces at Sharks.
Anal has always been $100 in sharks.
If you like women with curves then I doubt you'd find a better FKK than Sharks, most of the girls have them and mot of those in the wrong places. Not sure on the going rate for anal, I know it used to be 50 pre-pandemic but not sure if that's gone up to 100 post pandemic. Others that partake will clarify..
100 is the default rate for anal in Sharks.
From what I heard Shiva (not sure of the name, Iranian origin, short hair, arrive always very late) is a good bet if you like curvy girls.
For slim ones, Nadine, Mirian and Adrianna are famous for it.Maybe very curvy Baltic Anjelika does? Also blond thin Anastasia. Ro who proposes. Miriam ex Estefania Oase is so small, I would like to see with a normal size.
Oktober 2022 is very good roster for Sharks and many top girl accepting 150460 now. Currently lots of pretty girls and not enough customer. Weekend nights no line for rooms now. Girls unrealistic wish for 200460 have driven away many customer away in combination with high inflation and weak Euro currency.
Shark roster now seeing return of pre-Covid talents such as Cosmina, Mila, mean Betty, Hillary, and skinny girl with pink bob. Several new girl at Shark include one tall Ukraine.
Shark Oktober weekend talent superior to Mainhatten (maybe only two stunner with mediocre serve) and Palace (zero stunner). Mainhatten and Palace are sausage party on weekend night, everywhere look seeing men men men and cannot find girl. 150460 does work at Mainhatten and Palace, but I say go to Sharks and enjoy instead. Oase I did not visit yet since having too much enjoy at Sharks.
Oktober 2022 is very good roster for Sharks and many top girl accepting 150460 now. Currently lots of pretty girls and not enough customer. Weekend nights no line for rooms now. Girls unrealistic wish for 200460 have driven away many customer away in combination with high inflation and weak Euro currency.
Shark roster now seeing return of pre-Covid talents such as Cosmina, Mila, mean Betty, Hillary, and skinny girl with pink bob. Several new girl at Shark include one tall Ukraine.
Shark Oktober weekend talent superior to Mainhatten (maybe only two stunner with mediocre serve) and Palace (zero stunner). Mainhatten and Palace are sausage party on weekend night, everywhere look seeing men men men and cannot find girl. 150460 does work at Mainhatten and Palace, but I say go to Sharks and enjoy instead. Oase I did not visit yet since having too much enjoy at Sharks.Who are your top girls? Good if girls upselling made clients run away, same like at Oase before. I m too poor for Sharks girls now I have to put a lot of gas in V8 sound of thunder when around 40 l /100 kms on strong acceleration and make me more hard than Sharks looks and in bed. And not even Winter yet, when Rhur, 6 NL or Freubad are better value with prettier girls. I like the club, but Sharks like Globe castings are in second league for me on this year.
Faceless78
10-19-22, 22:54
It's Simona (there is also a Serena but she has fake tits). She's a beauty but if you don't see her work much there is a reason: she's rather dull in the room. I have been with her once and it was just OK.
She does 100430, 200460 and she doesn't kiss at all (no extra possible).
She's the great friend of Angela and do trio with her.What do the numbers mean? Does it what I'm thinking now.
I've been with Simonia a few times, she's pretty face and really young sex body, not that much of passion in the room and honest and no upsells.
Gaolegao366
10-19-22, 23:44
Arrived at Sharks around 6 pm on Wednesday. There were some fresh faces in the club and couple of them seem like my type.
First session: Vanessa. I have known her from my previous trip. We stayed one hour in the room and service was decent.
Second session: Ester. She looks like one of the girls also from Sharks which she told me she got that from customers all the time. Both of them are tall with blond hair and got lips done. She also got her boobs done and surprisingly they feel natural and great. Her service was also great, decent BJ skills and soft lips. We stayed one hour in the room as well.
Interestingly enough I ran into a girl that actually look like Evita, too bad I did not remember her name and did not get a chance to take her to the room. She is taller than Evita and has more make up.
Arrived at Sharks around 6 pm on Wednesday. There were some fresh faces in the club and couple of them seem like my type.
First session: Vanessa. I have known her from my previous trip. We stayed one hour in the room and service was decent.
Second session: Ester. She looks like one of the girls also from Sharks which she told me she got that from customers all the time. Both of them are tall with blond hair and got lips done. She also got her boobs done and surprisingly they feel natural and great. Her service was also great, decent BJ skills and soft lips. We stayed one hour in the room as well.
Interestingly enough I ran into a girl that actually look like Evita, too bad I did not remember her name and did not get a chance to take her to the room. She is taller than Evita and has more make up.Silicon Ester who arrived on 2015 and quite long time Vanessa were your choices for fresh girls? Like Globe or Oase, why to pay more expensive for lower quality than what you can find elsewhere for less expensive, when still really good girls for 100 or 110/60. On 2021, could get most of best and prettiest Sharks girls for 100/60. On 2022, girls are less pretty and ask more expensive. Not my arithmetics. Normal, clients not behaving like tourists, refuse this upselling, like we left Oase few years ago, when upselling girls have to understand they kill their own business. When playing grocer would kill my desire, so, even I like the club, but I don t brake anymore when driving between Rhur / Aachen and Switzerland / Dolomiti / Alps every week end. Not for such casting asking too expensive. I prefer to play on autobahns, first run on Saturday was funny, Germans changing line when hearing V8 thunder noise, really impressive by Fochesato. Elegant beauty and fire, who can compete at Sharks?
HammerTime96
10-20-22, 09:00
Second session: Ester. She looks like one of the girls also from Sharks which she told me she got that from customers all the time.Probably Cheyenne from Moldavia who hangs out together with Juli on the sofa near the stairs to the jacuzzi area. Cheyenne looks quite similar (tall, blonde, silicone, botox) but IMO does not provide a good service.
I had many nice sessions with Ester pre-ConVid1984, happy to read that she's back although I heard that she gained a bit of weight.
NiteRiderCal
10-22-22, 19:19
Oktober 2022 is very good roster for Sharks and many top girl accepting 150460 now. Currently lots of pretty girls and not enough customer. Weekend nights no line for rooms now. Girls unrealistic wish for 200460 have driven away many customer away in combination with high inflation and weak Euro currency.For those that don't like the 150460 and 200460, just do what I did. Last Jan, I went to Rio instead of Frankfurt. I just got back from a two weeks trip to Athens instead of Frankfurt. I will not go to FKK until thing get back to normal. That been said, there is something about the FKK club atmosphere. You can kind of get that in Rio but it is not the same. In Athens, there is no club to speak of.
However, both Rio and Athens is good for me in term of hotness and service. I would say that Rio is better for service and Athens is better for hotness. The hotness level is better than what I remember at Shark precovid. For the same price, due to the look and services, I rather fuck a Russian or Ukrainian girl in Athens any day over the the girl in Shark. However, it does lack the club atmosphere factor.
For those that don't like the 150460 and 200460, just do what I did. Last Jan, I went to Rio instead of Frankfurt. I just got back from a two weeks trip to Athens instead of Frankfurt. I will not go to FKK until thing get back to normal. That been said, there is something about the FKK club atmosphere. You can kind of get that in Rio but it is not the same. In Athens, there is no club to speak of.
However, both Rio and Athens is good for me in term of hotness and service. I would say that Rio is better for service and Athens is better for hotness. The hotness level is better than what I remember at Shark precovid. For the same price, due to the look and services, I rather fuck a Russian or Ukrainian girl in Athens any day over the the girl in Shark. However, it does lack the club atmosphere factor.Which website did you use to find the girls in Athens?
Which website did you use to find the girls in Athens?I think NiteRiderCal is referring to his previous report in here.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?688-Athens&p=2754452#post2754452.
Glamourescorts. https://glamourescorts.net/.
Yourangels. https://yourangels.gr/en/.
Golden-diamond-escort. https://golden-diamond-escort.com/.
Athensvipgirls. https://athensvipescorts.com/.
NiteRiderCal Please free to correct it.
For those that don't like the 150460 and 200460, just do what I did. Last Jan, I went to Rio instead of Frankfurt.Several posters have made it clear that they only prefer Caucasian women, so they stick to Germany FKKs as opposed to other countries.
I can say from experience that Dubai has no shortage of Russian / Eastern Europeans. Bahrain is a nice gem as well. But ofcourse the problem is price and transportation, you’re going to be paying top dollar and traveling back and forth from the "meat market" to your hotel. Unless you book a hotel that has the meet market below.
Having traveled a bit, I will admit I miss how easy the FKK is because all the women are in one spot. You don't have to go back to any hotel.
Several posters have made it clear that they only prefer Caucasian women, so they stick to Germany FKKs as opposed to other countries.There is an unlimited supply of "brancas" (white girls) available in Brazil. I don't know how many times I've had to say this. And they don't all have big butts either (rolling eyes). My preference is for the Latinas and the white girls, making Brazil my paradise on earth. Germany is a respectable number 2. These sites demonstrate just a small sampling of what's available:
https://www.riosexsite.com/
https://www.rioencontro.com.br/
https://www.barravipsrio.com/
Girls in Sharks elite list would include Dina, Megan, Janine, Vivien, Nicolette, Sandra, Helli, Evita, Helen, Lily, Corina, Cosmina, Mandy, Amilia, Jennifer, Anna, Denise, Anastasia, Melody, Melissa, Coco, Scarlette, Flavia, Ruby, Jazz, Mara, Betty, and more, etc. None of them are Gypsies. Where are these beauties now?.Actually, I re-visit Sharks last week. Some of Sharks elites were coming back.
Cosmina, Catherine (Anastasia), Adriana (Ashley), Scarlet (lookalike), Ruby, Melissa, Roxy, Debra, Melody.
Some new beauties I just got to know:
Katie or Kitty sound like that. In Sharks just a few weeks.
Catalee, tall girl. Although Siri mentioned her before, but this is the first time I saw her.
Reluca or Ruluca, sounds like that, not sure how to spell. Tall beauty, in Sharks just a few weeks.
There is an unlimited supply of "brancas" (white girls) available in Brazil. I don't know how many times I've had to say this. And they don't all have big butts either (rolling eyes). My preference is for the Latinas and the white girls, making Brazil my paradise on earth. Germany is a respectable number 2. These sites demonstrate just a small sampling of what's available:
https://www.riosexsite.com/
https://www.rioencontro.com.br/
https://www.barravipsrio.com/I prefer elegant Romanians, now rare at Sharks and Globe, than fake moanings South Americans killing my desire. When I find a elegant GFE Romanian natural beauty for not too expensive, I m just happy. I wish to find only 1 at Sharks.
NiteRiderCal
10-23-22, 20:42
Adindas.
That is correct, those was the website that I used. Also, there was no issue with girl go straight up to my hotel. I stay at the gkathens. But from my understanding most hotel will allow girl to go up.
In Rio, I stay away from website. There was a few good one but most of time time, I was disappointed with website. I mostly see girl in the terma, around maybe 30 percent of the girl are caucasian.
NiteRiderCal
10-23-22, 21:46
I think NiteRiderCal is referring to his previous report in here.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?688-Athens&p=2754452#post2754452.
Glamourescorts. https://glamourescorts.net/.
Yourangels. https://yourangels.gr/en/.
Golden-diamond-escort. https://golden-diamond-escort.com/.
Athensvipgirls. https://athensvipescorts.com/.
NiteRiderCal Please free to correct it.One correction Athensvipgirls. Is https://athensvipgirls.gr/.
EuroTravel1234
10-24-22, 01:37
Actually, I re-visit Sharks last week. Some of Sharks elites were coming back.
Cosmina, Catherine (Anastasia), Adriana (Ashley), Scarlet (lookalike), Ruby, Melissa, Roxy, Debra, Melody.
Some new beauties I just got to know:
Katie or Kitty sound like that. In Sharks just a few weeks.
Catalee, tall girl. Although Siri mentioned her before, but this is the first time I saw her.
Reluca or Ruluca, sounds like that, not sure how to spell. Tall beauty, in Sharks just a few weeks.Melody? ?
Is the girl worked at Shark about 3 years ago?
Hyperion2007
10-24-22, 11:45
Melody? ?
Is the girl worked at Shark about 3 years ago?Confirmed on a German forum: the same that worked in Sharks before COVID.
BarryManila
10-24-22, 14:00
Reluca or Ruluca, sounds like that, not sure how to spell. Tall beauty, in Sharks just a few weeks.Raluca. Say Ra-loo-ka.
EuroTravel1234
10-24-22, 15:26
Confirmed on a German forum: the same that worked in Sharks before COVID.Thanks for the Information!
She was very famous at Shark before. Then she quit even before pandemic.
EuroTravel1234
10-24-22, 18:08
Does Tessa from 2019 came back too?
Both Melody and Tessa were my favorite before pandemic.
Thanks.
Does Tessa from 2019 came back too?
Both Melody and Tessa were my favorite before pandemic.
Thanks.Half US half German black Tessa sitting at German table, was at Sharks on July 2021 , far more elegant and pretty than girls on 2022 , but telling not kissing. Some Sharks girls seem to start to cry about slow business, same like did Oase girls after fucking their business when asking too expensive for their potential. Some looking elsewhere. I know some higher level girls who are still full busy.
Confirmed on a German forum: the same that worked in Sharks before COVID.Wow, very surprised to know that Melody is coming back. I don't believe she needs money to work as a tute.
Two years ago, Melody told me that she was working as a waitress. She started "new chapter" in her life. She decided to stop contacting anyone she met in Germany. She would go to college after the end of pandemic. She said she could handle it financially.
Since then I didn't contact her either.
So Melody must be in college now.
The current "Melody" must be another girl.
But I am not sure.
Of course, if her new "boyfriend" is a pimp then everything is different.
EuroTravel1234
10-25-22, 01:44
Wow, very surprised to know that Melody is coming back. I don't believe she needs money to work as a tute.
Two years ago, Melody told me that she was working as a waitress. She started "new chapter" in her life. She decided to stop contacting anyone she met in Germany. She would go to college after the end of pandemic. She said she could handle it financially.
Since then I didn't contact her either.
So Melody must be in college now.
The current "Melody" must be another girl.
But I am not sure.
Of course, if her new "boyfriend" is a pimp then everything is different.It sounds like UncleOx you have Melody 1. 0 contact information??
Could you please confirm the current Melody at Shark is actually the "Melody 1. 0" so I can visit her in December.
Thanks.
I don't have her contact information.
Old number didn't work.
I don't care who is "Melody".
Every Sharks WG could be your Melody if you pay money.
It sounds like UncleOx you have Melody 1. 0 contact information??
Could you please confirm the current Melody at Shark is actually the "Melody 1. 0" so I can visit her in December.
Thanks.
Wow, very surprised to know that Melody is coming back. I don't believe she needs money to work as a tute.
Two years ago, Melody told me that she was working as a waitress. She started "new chapter" in her life. She decided to stop contacting anyone she met in Germany. She would go to college after the end of pandemic. She said she could handle it financially.
Since then I didn't contact her either.
So Melody must be in college now.
The current "Melody" must be another girl.
But I am not sure.
Of course, if her new "boyfriend" is a pimp then everything is different.Waitress in Romania? So small money. I don t know her, but she would not be the first one to return to fast money, when she may make in one day what she gets at home on a month. Some even returned to be fucked after having a baby, letting baby with mum, far from baby for weeks. Fortunately, skype, but ready for anything for money.
Hyperion2007
10-25-22, 11:28
Wow, very surprised to know that Melody is coming back. I don't believe she needs money to work as a tute.
Two years ago, Melody told me that she was working as a waitress. She started "new chapter" in her life. She decided to stop contacting anyone she met in Germany. She would go to college after the end of pandemic. She said she could handle it financially.
Since then I didn't contact her either.
So Melody must be in college now.
The current "Melody" must be another girl.
But I am not sure.
Of course, if her new "boyfriend" is a pimp then everything is different.The information comes from a moderator of a german forum, somebody asked him to confirm and he said that he saw her last Wednesday.
I don't know her so I can't confirm. There is so many new faces since the end of August that it's hard to keep tab of all the girls.
EuroTravel1234
10-25-22, 12:15
Half US half German black Tessa sitting at German table, was at Sharks on July 2021 , far more elegant and pretty than girls on 2022 , but telling not kissing. Some Sharks girls seem to start to cry about slow business, same like did Oase girls after fucking their business when asking too expensive for their potential. Some looking elsewhere. I know some higher level girls who are still full busy.She is not the Tessa I met before. The Tessa I met before is a cute tinny Caucasia.
EuroTravel1234
10-25-22, 16:59
I don't have her contact information.
Old number didn't work.
I don't care who is "Melody".
Every Sharks WG could be your Melody if you pay money.So you found another Melody this time? As cute as Melody 1. 0?
SobeLizard
10-25-22, 20:35
If you like those thunder thighs. Those big hefty thighs. Those Street Walker houchy mama butts. Those nutcrackers that can squeeze you like a toothpaste, then Brazilian woman is your thing.
Lordy have mercy on my nutt juice. She makes nutt juice like the guy that squeeze oranges at Orange Julius.
No way. Can't fuck a cow. Might die in bed.
If you like those thunder thighs. Those big hefty thighs. Those Street Walker houchy mama butts. Those nutcrackers that can squeeze you like a toothpaste, then Brazilian woman is your thing.
Lordy have mercy on my nutt juice. She makes nutt juice like the guy that squeeze oranges at Orange Julius.
No way. Can't fuck a cow. Might die in bed.Some Brazilians are pretty, but not my sensuality for sex, and same for Colombians. Argentinians or Venezuelans or Chileans would be more for my way for love sex without porn moanings. Got a great night with a Russian look but Venezuelan at Palace on end of November 2018, before nearly dying poisonning my blood, was difficult, sweating a lot, to drive to french border to be operated, but 2 days after, I was at work.
If you like those thunder thighs. Those big hefty thighs. Those Street Walker houchy mama butts. Those nutcrackers that can squeeze you like a toothpaste, then Brazilian woman is your thing.
Lordy have mercy on my nutt juice. She makes nutt juice like the guy that squeeze oranges at Orange Julius.
No way. Can't fuck a cow. Might die in bed.Brazilian garotas are indeed generally bigger, tougher and firmer than Romanian girls, for example.
BackpackBrian
10-26-22, 21:39
I just spoke with 2 men in Sauna club Penelope in Dortmund tonight and they told me that as of yesterday the Sharks owners asked the girls to drop their price down to $70 from $100 to try and bring back customers.
Can anyone verify this?
They showed me some comments about it on another German site.
I was in Sharks last week and the prices were still $100.
I'll head back to Sharks in 2 days to confirm.
I just spoke with 2 men in Sauna club Penelope in Dortmund tonight and they told me that as of yesterday the Sharks owners asked the girls to drop their price down to $70 from $100 to try and bring back customers.
Can anyone verify this?
They showed me some comments about it on another German site.
I was in Sharks last week and the prices were still $100.
I'll head back to Sharks in 2 days to confirm.I don't know if true, but when Sharks management made the most improvement since 2014 compare to any other club and I like the club, but when I visited weekly on 2021, I don't visit often on this year because of low casting for looks, behavior and too expensive rate for value which will fuck Sharks business, like Oase girls made Oase almost empty most often. I find higher level girls for less expensive in NRW and 6 ens NL and some are very busy. 100/30 with no real kissing for most and 150/200/60 is too much expensive for looks and far below my GFE in bed. I spent only less than 4 hours in room on this year, the only on my level was German Sofi, but 200/60 is too expensive. German Vanessa was nice but no wow in bed. 2 Germans without silicon and model type.
I just spoke with 2 men in Sauna club Penelope in Dortmund tonight and they told me that as of yesterday the Sharks owners asked the girls to drop their price down to $70 from $100 to try and bring back customers.
Can anyone verify this?
They showed me some comments about it on another German site.
I was in Sharks last week and the prices were still $100.
I'll head back to Sharks in 2 days to confirm.Officially it still was Euro 50 for half hour and 100 for 1 hour, but most girls added +50 for any decent service (if you are lucky.)
Now the official price is raised +20 to 70 euro for half hour, let's see if the girls then offer decent service (including DFK and BBBJ) for this.
In some NRW clubs the price has been raised to 60 or 65 for half hour also.
HammerTime96
10-27-22, 11:49
I just spoke with 2 men in Sauna club Penelope in Dortmund tonight and they told me that as of yesterday the Sharks owners asked the girls to drop their price down to $70 from $100 to try and bring back customers.
Can anyone verify this?I can not confirm this and I doubt that this is true, but this would be a sensible thing to do.
Recently I was in Sharks during a weekend and I was shocked how empty it was. I arrived at my usual time of around 13:00-14:00 and the club was already unusually quiet, but even at 23:00 at night it was still relatively empty, no waiting times for rooms, many girls sitting by themselves looking bored whilst many other (ugly) girls aggressively approached me because they simply lack business. Even some IMO arrogant girls who normally always sit around ignoring all men (sitting at the beginning of the bar from the left hand side near the 'German Table' towards the stripper pole) and only chatting with each other were now approaching me asking for a room. Every time I walked around the back end of the bar (the area towards the toilets, former Kino) I was aggressively approached, even multiple times by the same girl on the same evening.
Both Sharks management and the WGs have shot themselves in the foot in their short-sighted attempt to quickly make some quick money from entrance fees (management) and by fleecing dumb sex tourists (WGs) by charging ridiculous prices like 100-30 150-60 and now even 200-60!
The Sharks management has basically let everybody enter the club; ugly sharky women hoping to rip off male customers, and rude uncivilized male customers. The irony is that now it's biting them in the ass because the smarter men are staying away: too many proletarian males and too many ugly girls charging phantasy prices of 100-30 or even 200-60 for with an increased risk of receiving bad service.
Regardless of inflation 100 Euros for a quickie suck & fuck is simply way too expensive in order to have an evening of fun trying new girls with the increased danger of being ripped off, so this does not motivate most German men to pay 65 Euros for a visit to Sharks and drive all the way to Darmstadt. On a side note: perhaps most American and Asian tourists do not notice or don't know the difference, but when you look in the car park you see many German number plates (the first 1, 2 or 3 letters indicate the Landeskreis where the car is registered) from areas 1 to even 1,5 hours driving from Darmstadt, and my guess is that many of these guys simply stay away when they have a few bad experiences of wasting a lot of money on a bad line up and shitty service with upselling.
For personal reasons, I won't comment here anymore on the girls I have taken to a room, you can PM me for more info.
Officially it still was Euro 50 for half hour and 100 for 1 hour, but most girls added +50 for any decent service (if you are lucky.)
Now the official price is raised +20 to 70 euro for half hour, let's see if the girls then offer decent service (including DFK and BBBJ) for this.
In some NRW clubs the price has been raised to 60 or 65 for half hour also.In my close to five decades of being a customer in this business I have never known of prices dropping in an establishment.
BackpackBrian
10-27-22, 15:53
Officially it still was Euro 50 for half hour and 100 for 1 hour, but most girls added +50 for any decent service (if you are lucky.)
Now the official price is raised +20 to 70 euro for half hour, let's see if the girls then offer decent service (including DFK and BBBJ) for this.
In some NRW clubs the price has been raised to 60 or 65 for half hour also.Although the price might be "unofficially" 50 E, that doesn't include BBBJ. And I wasn't quoted any 50 E starting prices last week by any of the girls, so you must be smoking crack!
The price for basic (lite kissing, BBBJ, CFS) is 100 E.
This price was dropped to 70 E according to my sources.
Just looking for confirmation. If anyone was there yesterday or today.
I just spoke with 2 men in Sauna club Penelope in Dortmund tonight and they told me that as of yesterday the Sharks owners asked the girls to drop their price down to $70 from $100 to try and bring back customers.
Can anyone verify this?
They showed me some comments about it on another German site.
I was in Sharks last week and the prices were still $100.
I'll head back to Sharks in 2 days to confirm.There is still a small amount of ladies that offer the old club rates of 50€ for 30 minutes but obviously these are not the stunners although I gather they do give a very good service.
I'm planning to visit on Wednesday so I will find out for myself if many girls have dropped the new rates of 100/30 & 150/60.
There is still a small amount of ladies that offer the old club rates of 50 for 30 minutes but obviously these are not the stunners although I gather they do give a very good service.
I'm planning to visit on Wednesday so I will find out for myself if many girls have dropped the new rates of 100/30 & 150/60.Good man Canary, we are looking forward to your report. Good luck, hope you have a good time.
SobeLizard
10-27-22, 20:39
I can not confirm this and I doubt that this is true, but this would be a sensible thing to do.
Recently I was in Sharks during a weekend and I was shocked how empty it was. I arrived at my usual time of around 13:00-14:00 and the club was already unusually quiet, but even at 23:00 at night it was still relatively empty, no waiting times for rooms, many girls sitting by themselves looking bored whilst many other (ugly) girls aggressively approached me because they simply lack business. Even some IMO arrogant girls who normally always sit around ignoring all men (sitting at the beginning of the bar from the left hand side near the 'German Table' towards the stripper pole) and only chatting with each other were now approaching me asking for a room. Every time I walked around the back end of the bar (the area towards the toilets, former Kino) I was aggressively approached, even multiple times by the same girl on the same evening.
Both Sharks management and the WGs have shot themselves in the foot in their short-sighted attempt to quickly make some quick money from entrance fees (management) and by fleecing dumb sex tourists (WGs) by charging ridiculous prices like 100-30 150-60 and now even 200-60!
The Sharks management has basically let everybody enter the club; ugly sharky women hoping to rip off male customers, and rude uncivilized male customers. The irony is that now it's biting them in the ass because the smarter men are staying away: too many proletarian males and too many ugly girls charging phantasy prices of 100-30 or even 200-60 for with an increased risk of receiving bad service.
Regardless of inflation 100 Euros for a quickie suck & fuck is simply way too expensive in order to have an evening of fun trying new girls with the increased danger of being ripped off, so this does not motivate most German men to pay 65 Euros for a visit to Sharks and drive all the way to Darmstadt. On a side note: perhaps most American and Asian tourists do not notice or don't know the difference, but when you look in the car park you see many German number plates (the first 1, 2 or 3 letters indicate the Landeskreis where the car is registered) from areas 1 to even 1,5 hours driving from Darmstadt, and my guess is that many of these guys simply stay away when they have a few bad experiences of wasting a lot of money on a bad line up and shitty service with upselling.
For personal reasons, I won't comment here anymore on the girls I have taken to a room, you can PM me for more info.All Must Die.
Let them starve out.
What was once the demise of Oase and Palace is now Sharks.
Nobody should be paying 150/60.
I notice this White guy from New Jersey taking a Big Fat Black lady to the room.
Sharks has becoming the ErosCenter in downtown Frankfurt.
Sharks is a good club for me, for foods, jacuzzi, garden, but looks don't worth rate they ask, so I go elsewhere for better value and quality. Just easy.
I can not confirm this and I doubt that this is true, but this would be a sensible thing to do.
Recently I was in Sharks during a weekend and I was shocked how empty it was. I arrived at my usual time of around 13:00-14:00 and the club was already unusually quiet, but even at 23:00 at night it was still relatively empty, no waiting times for rooms, many girls sitting by themselves looking bored whilst many other (ugly) girls aggressively approached me because they simply lack business. Even some IMO arrogant girls who normally always sit around ignoring all men (sitting at the beginning of the bar from the left hand side near the 'German Table' towards the stripper pole) and only chatting with each other were now approaching me asking for a room. Every time I walked around the back end of the bar (the area towards the toilets, former Kino) I was aggressively approached, even multiple times by the same girl on the same evening.
Both Sharks management and the WGs have shot themselves in the foot in their short-sighted attempt to quickly make some quick money from entrance fees (management) and by fleecing dumb sex tourists (WGs) by charging ridiculous prices like 100-30 150-60 and now even 200-60!
The Sharks management has basically let everybody enter the club; ugly sharky women hoping to rip off male customers, and rude uncivilized male customers. The irony is that now it's biting them in the ass because the smarter men are staying away: too many proletarian males and too many ugly girls charging phantasy prices of 100-30 or even 200-60 for with an increased risk of receiving bad service.
Regardless of inflation 100 Euros for a quickie suck & fuck is simply way too expensive in order to have an evening of fun trying new girls with the increased danger of being ripped off, so this does not motivate most German men to pay 65 Euros for a visit to Sharks and drive all the way to Darmstadt. On a side note: perhaps most American and Asian tourists do not notice or don't know the difference, but when you look in the car park you see many German number plates (the first 1, 2 or 3 letters indicate the Landeskreis where the car is registered) from areas 1 to even 1,5 hours driving from Darmstadt, and my guess is that many of these guys simply stay away when they have a few bad experiences of wasting a lot of money on a bad line up and shitty service with upselling.
For personal reasons, I won't comment here anymore on the girls I have taken to a room, you can PM me for more info.
HammerTime96
10-28-22, 04:26
Sharks has becoming the ErosCenter in downtown Frankfurt.Exactly.
"Pay more for less service" seems to be the way Millennials and Asian-American sex tourists have been brainwashed.
I wonder if they do the same when they buy a car:
Sales guy: "sir, this mediocre car. The sales brochure says that it's "great" but in reality it has a questionable fuel economy / EV range and shitty road handling, and will cost you $65 k".
Dumbfuck: "let me suck your dick and pay you $70 k, this way I'll get better fuel economy / EV range and a better driving experience. ".
A couple of plandemic years later.
Dumbfuck: "oh no, shock, horror, now the same mediocre car costs $100 k and has even worse fuel economy / EV range and shitty road handling. I will let the sales guy fuck me in the ass (no lube of course) and pay him $130 k, this way I will hopefully get better fuel economy / EV range and a better driving experience. ".
Or when they go to a restaurant:
Reputation: "People say that this restaurant is pretty bad and that the quality of food has done down the drain over the last few years since the previous cook quit. ".
Dumbfuck: "let me pay 2 x the price that is listed on the menu and promise the waitress a 50% tip, that way I will get better food and service. ".
Or buying an airline ticket:
News: "this airline has crashed 5 times in the last 2 years, has very bad maintenance and hired poorly trained pilots".
Dumbfuck: "I'm a Snowflake Millennial and I feel very special and different, I'm sure that if I pay lots of extra money for my flight then the odds will magically and immediately improve in my favour.
Can't fix stupid, LOL!
All Must Die.
Let them starve out.
What was once the demise of Oase and Palace is now Sharks.
Nobody should be paying 150/60.
I notice this White guy from New Jersey taking a Big Fat Black lady to the room.
Sharks has becoming the ErosCenter in downtown Frankfurt.150/60 for a super beauty able to kiss and to get a Caucasian wolf inside of her like a woman, I can pay, but not for most Sharks looks on this year when some ask 150/30 , or 200 or more for 1 hour and some pay, even some Germans. Like Oase girls did, Sharks girls may fuck their own business and also for club with less entry. I visit much less often, Sharks could be on my way to climb Zoncolan tomorrow, but can t compete with some beauties at Freubad, so I will take risk to enter Switzerland.
......I notice this White guy from New Jersey taking a Big Fat Black lady to the room.....He travelled all the way to Europe for that when he could have made a short trip to the Dominican Republic and have got many for a fraction of the price of one in FKK?
All Must Die.
Let them starve out.
What was once the demise of Oase and Palace is now Sharks.
Nobody should be paying 150/60.
I notice this White guy from New Jersey taking a Big Fat Black lady to the room.
Sharks has becoming the ErosCenter in downtown Frankfurt.
Exactly.
"Pay more for less service" seems to be the way Millennials and Asian-American sex tourists have been brainwashed.
I wonder if they do the same when they buy a car:
Sales guy: "sir, this mediocre car. The sales brochure says that it's "great" but in reality it has a questionable fuel economy / EV range and shitty road handling, and will cost you $65 k".
Dumbfuck: "let me suck your dick and pay you $70 k, this way I'll get better fuel economy / EV range and a better driving experience. ".
A couple of plandemic years later.
Dumbfuck: "oh no, shock, horror, now the same mediocre car costs $100 k and has even worse fuel economy / EV range and shitty road handling. I will let the sales guy fuck me in the ass (no lube of course) and pay him $130 k, this way I will hopefully get better fuel economy / EV range and a better driving experience. ".
Or when they go to a restaurant:
Reputation: "People say that this restaurant is pretty bad and that the quality of food has done down the drain over the last few years since the previous cook quit. ".
Dumbfuck: "let me pay 2 x the price that is listed on the menu and promise the waitress a 50% tip, that way I will get better food and service. ".
Or buying an airline ticket:
News: "this airline has crashed 5 times in the last 2 years, has very bad maintenance and hired poorly trained pilots".
Dumbfuck: "I'm a Snowflake Millennial and I feel very special and different, I'm sure that if I pay lots of extra money for my flight then the odds will magically and immediately improve in my favour.
Can't fix stupid, LOL!From our standards at home, almost all Romanians are pretty and cheap for US compare to what they see at home, so they spend to fly from very far, when I would go to escorts in Canada: Quebec and Montreal. Asians run to any fake blond with white skin and think they are lucky girls go with them and gossiping specialists more than with their size. Not enough pretty girls seen on my 2022 visits at Sharks, from my french standards when every day I see wow looks in Paris. Some of the youngest best looking go and pay for plastic granny when I would not go even I would be given 1000 , maybe I m too old to be attracted? When I feel hard each time I push start button hearing sound of thunder V8 prepared by Fochesato, but I will prepare more.
Regardless of inflation 100 Euros for a quickie suck & fuck is simply way too expensiveYes 100 euros for 30 minutes (most people don't even last 30 minutes) is expensive, you could get 1 full night with a woman in Thailand for that. However, Caucasian women will never be cheap no matter where you go. The only solution is to start seeing non-whites (Thailand, Brazil, DR, Colombia), because whites are never going to be the cheapest on the market.
Sharks has becoming the ErosCenter in downtown Frankfurt.If they keep allowing any woman to work there, then yes. I really enjoy sharks, but the eye sore of so many fat women (they like to hangout in the back of the bar) is too much. And it's worst if they hound you. Women should not be allowed to harass customers.
I will still go to sharks in the future, but I do understand the gripes folks have.
Yes 100 euros for 30 minutes (most people don't even last 30 minutes) is expensive, you could get 1 full night with a woman in Thailand for that. However, Caucasian women will never be cheap no matter where you go. The only solution is to start seeing non-whites (Thailand, Brazil, DR, Colombia), because whites are never going to be the cheapest on the market.
If they keep allowing any woman to work there, then yes. I really enjoy sharks, but the eye sore of so many fat women (they like to hangout in the back of the bar) is too much. And it's worst if they hound you. Women should not be allowed to harass customers.
I will still go to sharks in the future, but I do understand the gripes folks have.
I think what become the concern of seasonal mongerers here is that, the insensible price hike. A few months ago you could still get EUR50/30 now it seems EUR100/30. That is of 100% increase, while people incomes, salaries wages have not increased that much, the inflation is not that steep. The more sensible approach might be to increase it 20% for instance making it EUR60/30. For EUR 100/30 why would you want to travel if you could get similar result to that on your doorsteps. Keep in mind while for for some people, it will mean the cost of fuels. For other people might be the flight, accommodation, taxis / local transport. Add that to the final price that you will pay.
And we have already seen the backlash, where few people are going to the room, complain from the girls of lack of customers, etc.
Local people is the bread and butter of FKK. If they stop visiting FKKs, Stop going to the room, it ia only a matter of time before we see the FKKS disappear from Germany. Similar to what we have witnessed in Amsterdam. Also the current trend in Warsaw, Prague, etc.
Regarding, Caucasian women, well head to Greece forum. In Metaxx, Filis Areas in Athens many Russians, EE girls are still offering EUR30 for short term.
This is not a direct comparison but some of these girls are doing porns, GB parties and they are getting paid much less than that for comparative services (e. G BBFS-CIP, DAP, spanking, humiliation, GB by three giants cocks simultaneously, etc).
I just spoke with 2 men in Sauna club Penelope in Dortmund tonight and they told me that as of yesterday the Sharks owners asked the girls to drop their price down to $70 from $100 to try and bring back customers.
Can anyone verify this?
They showed me some comments about it on another German site.
I was in Sharks last week and the prices were still $100.
I'll head back to Sharks in 2 days to confirm.The problem is not what they charge. It is the low. Level of service and sharks attitude. A good club has a few lookers with good service and a solid middle with excellent service.
Yes 100 euros for 30 minutes (most people don't even last 30 minutes) is expensive, you could get 1 full night with a woman in Thailand for that. However, Caucasian women will never be cheap no matter where you go. The only solution is to start seeing non-whites (Thailand, Brazil, DR, Colombia), because whites are never going to be the cheapest on the market.
If they keep allowing any woman to work there, then yes. I really enjoy sharks, but the eye sore of so many fat women (they like to hangout in the back of the bar) is too much. And it's worst if they hound you. Women should not be allowed to harass customers.
I will still go to sharks in the future, but I do understand the gripes folks have.More expensive for lower quality on 2022 compare to 2021, not 13th century. Can still find prettier and higher level girls in Germany for 40/65 per 30 mn, 80/130 per hour, if you are not stuck to Hessen. When I will build a unique V8 elegant beauty for around 25000, why do you want I pay expensive for not pretties.
I think what become the concern of seasonal mongerers here is that, the insensible price hike. A few months ago you could still get EUR50/30 now it seems EUR100/30. That is of 100% increase......Even though I have been able to save a ton of money over the last 2 1/2 years I have no desire to pay EUR100/30, that is traversing into rip-off territory.
WaterMeltingg
11-01-22, 18:10
On my last visit to Sharks, I had an amazing session with this girl called Alia. Ca. 163 cm, 26 years, cute face with blond hair, A cups. She had a lot of makeup on her face. I don't prefer that but we got to taking on sofa. Had a long chat. She didn't push for a room and was being seductive. Finally I couldn't resist.
Kissing on lips, she was not ready for french kiss. Blowjob was good and sloppy as I like it. Licking and playing with pussy was not a problem. BJ session again in various positions. Fucking in multiple positions without any restrictions. Her legs were on my shoulders and with the speed I rammed her.
Damage. 100 € for 30 min. I would repeat again.
The problem is not what they charge. It is the low. Level of service and sharks attitude. A good club has a few lookers with good service and a solid middle with excellent service.Yes, Sharks is good for the club, but if girls looked at them in mirror behind pole and not drunk, most should see they don t worth 100/30 except Sofi. De and Katalea when not heavy make up and when fresh and none seen on this year worthing 200/60 when I don t like to play rabbit, not my quality. Even worse at Globe when now 160€/30 for average looks and some low level in bed, the big fall. At Freubad. Ch, I pay 200/60 for GFE natural beauties and discovered on Friday night a Romanian woman in love for love in bed. What are You doing to me she asked. On Sunday night, 100/40 with DFK with a very honest natural beauty with no tattoo, quite rare at Wellcum. At. When I will finish my sporty tour, I will return to NRW for better value and golden gate didn't seem bad on a Sunday afternoon. I would have no problem to pay 150/60 for a real GFE elegant natural beauty with pretty face and sophisticated care, who?
WaterMeltingg
11-01-22, 23:39
Catalea is a model type but her prices have gone up and service down. Meanwhile she wears very heavy make up. 200 for 60 min is definitely overpriced. When she was new in business, she used to kiss, some session were longer than agreed 30 min with GFE like experience. She didn't kiss during last last session few months back. Her service is not the same.
Her body is flawless but her face is just so so. Service has definitely declined but is still decent. There are very few girls can keep their service level high over time and I don't blame them. Workaholics are rare in real life. Just move on and find next one.
Catalea is a model type but her prices have gone up and service down. Meanwhile she wears very heavy make up. 200 for 60 min is definitely overpriced. When she was new in business, she used to kiss, some session were longer than agreed 30 min with GFE like experience. She didn't kiss during last last session few months back. Her service is not the same.
Catalea is a model type but her prices have gone up and service down. Meanwhile she wears very heavy make up. 200 for 60 min is definitely overpriced. When she was new in business, she used to kiss, some session were longer than agreed 30 min with GFE like experience. She didn't kiss during last last session few months back. Her service is not the same.I got her for 150/60 for many rooms on 2021 before heavy or gothic make up. I liked her hardening nipples and chicken skin talking. I meant for her look, probably why she was elected Miss Sharks 2021. For sure, her level don t worth 200/60 I refuse to pay for German Sofi on escort level.
WaterMeltingg
11-02-22, 15:23
For me a new find in Sharks. Her name is bit confusing Lorena or Loranea. I'm not sure.
Her boobs attracted me to her, it must be C cups. Curvy lady, so not for slim fans. I liked her body proportions, plump lips gives her a porn girl look, blond hair. At first she was very cold while talking. I had doubt weather her service would also be like that. But later as we got the coffee and continued chatting she opened up more and we went to the room. To my surprise, full contact. GFE Experience. I could suck those full lips, tongue play, good blowjob with variations. Balls were also taken care of. It was almost a deep throat. Could have been little more wet, which I tried to convey but she didn't understand or was not willing to. She can ride in reverse position very well, in Doggy the ass is presented at high as she gets it. What a scene to watch in the mirror. Handed over 100 for 30 after finishing. Repeat possible.
WaterMeltingg
11-02-22, 19:15
I got her for 150/60 for many rooms on 2021 before heavy or gothic make up. I liked her hardening nipples and chicken skin talking. I meant for her look, probably why she was elected Miss Sharks 2021. For sure, her level don t worth 200/60 I refuse to pay for German Sofi on escort level.I thought she came to Sharks in 2022 for the first time. That's what she told me. I know sometimes she takes a break from Sharks and moves to prestige. But she didn't admit that either during our last talk.
I thought she came to Sharks in 2022 for the first time. That's what she told me. I know sometimes she takes a break from Sharks and moves to prestige. But she didn't admit that either during our last talk.If we speak about same around 180, milky skin, naturals with hardening nipples when her body feel pleasure, now at the bar close to ex kino, she arrived at Sharks on 9 July 2021 and even I needed a bit of time to go to her when I could be her first at Sharks when she arrived at 4 pm, she often told me: I was her last on her first day. When I went to her only on late night, I regret I didn't go to get her virgin from Sharks. Not really virgin because she came from private in Germany and spoke better German than English on 2021. I thought You wrote You already got her on 2021 and more GFE and kissing than on 2022? I don't know for Prestige, but not GFE enough for me for Neunkirchen, or level also fell there. I think Nadine moved to Prestige when Sharks was closed. About 100/30 rate, I wrote Katalea could worth for her model look when not many at Sharks can worth so expensive, but she doesn't have level and elegance for 200/60 which is escort rate in Germany, some escorts even for only 150/60, but when many looking like nothing ask 100/30 or more, or 200/60 or more now at Sharks, why would a model not ask for same? When Cosmina, Sena, Daisi. De were for 100/60 on 2021 and Katalea for 150/60 for our 12 rooms. I agree her level for GFE fell after July 2021, when she is not a GFE in mind, so I found more GFE and elegant than her for only 100/60 for 8 rooms. Unfortunately not found at Sharks on 2022.
I was in Sharks last weekend and nothing changed price wise. As someone wrote prices only ever go up in these places not down. I went with 3 girls I've been with before and none had changed their price, of course they are very unlikely to say to me I could pay less than before.
I did speak to one other girl, who said 100 euros for half an hour, I didn't find out her price for an hour. She also wanted another 50 euros for any extras like kissing or licking the pussy.
Personally I don't have a huge problem with 150/60 if the service is good but 200 is too much. A big problem with the pricing is everything is in 50 euro demonisations which leads to huge price rises, the girls don't seem to realise 10 & 20 euro notes exist!
On Saturday the club was busy not to the extent there were no keys though it must still be taking in a lot of money but obviously less than before and it will have increased expenses, I hope rumours of financial problems aren't true.
I'm sure the bad reports on here isn't helping, before I went to Sharks for the very first time 5 years ago I read reports on ISG and they were all favourable now the reports would put me off. Personally I still enjoy my time there, I tried Acapulco Gold once and just found in boring, Sharks on a weekend still has a good atmosphere.
I was in Sharks last weekend and nothing changed price wise. As someone wrote prices only ever go up in these places not down. I went with 3 girls I've been with before and none had changed their price, of course they are very unlikely to say to me I could pay less than before.
I did speak to one other girl, who said 100 euros for half an hour, I didn't find out her price for an hour. She also wanted another 50 euros for any extras like kissing or licking the pussy.
Personally I don't have a huge problem with 150/60 if the service is good but 200 is too much. A big problem with the pricing is everything is in 50 euro demonisations which leads to huge price rises, the girls don't seem to realise 10 & 20 euro notes exist!
On Saturday the club was busy not to the extent there were no keys though it must still be taking in a lot of money but obviously less than before and it will have increased expenses, I hope rumours of financial problems aren't true.
I'm sure the bad reports on here isn't helping, before I went to Sharks for the very first time 5 years ago I read reports on ISG and they were all favourable now the reports would put me off. Personally I still enjoy my time there, I tried Acapulco Gold once and just found in boring, Sharks on a weekend still has a good atmosphere.Hookers are not very good businesswomen. The girls saw an opportunity and increased their prices by 100%. Such an increase will obviously have a negative impact on arrivals of clientele especially from foreign countries. A 50% increase would have been wiser. Are the girls making more money now than before the augmentation? If they are then I may be wrong.
I was in Sharks last weekend and nothing changed price wise. As someone wrote prices only ever go up in these places not down. I went with 3 girls I've been with before and none had changed their price, of course they are very unlikely to say to me I could pay less than before.
I did speak to one other girl, who said 100 euros for half an hour, I didn't find out her price for an hour. She also wanted another 50 euros for any extras like kissing or licking the pussy.
Personally I don't have a huge problem with 150/60 if the service is good but 200 is too much. A big problem with the pricing is everything is in 50 euro demonisations which leads to huge price rises, the girls don't seem to realise 10 & 20 euro notes exist!
On Saturday the club was busy not to the extent there were no keys though it must still be taking in a lot of money but obviously less than before and it will have increased expenses, I hope rumours of financial problems aren't true.
I'm sure the bad reports on here isn't helping, before I went to Sharks for the very first time 5 years ago I read reports on ISG and they were all favourable now the reports would put me off. Personally I still enjoy my time there, I tried Acapulco Gold once and just found in boring, Sharks on a weekend still has a good atmosphere.So, with kissing and DATY, some ask 150/30 ? I hope she was Miss World, not a look like nothing. 3 rooms, when my standard is minimum 1 hour with a good girl, when I m a slow rabbit not Turkish nor Asian, mean at least 515 € for the visit without kissing, so not quality sex. I doubt many regulars can afford 2000/2500 monthly. Bad value for quality.
So, with kissing and DATY, some ask 150/30 ?I got the feeling both would be billed separately so it would be 200/30.
Hookers are not very good businesswomen. The girls saw an opportunity and increased their prices by 100%. Such an increase will obviously have a negative impact on arrivals of clientele especially from foreign countries. A 50% increase would have been wiser. Are the girls making more money now than before the augmentation? If they are then I may be wrong.If someone suggested paying 60 per half a few years ago on this site, a bunch of haughty vigilantes would jump on them and beat up with "you are destroying the market. Shame on you" attacks. Now we are wishing for 75/30 min.
I got the feeling both would be billed separately so it would be 200/30.When German escorts are for 150/200/60 with FK, DATY fingering and no entry to pay. I will save my money from upselling Sharks girls like I do about Oase, to pay E85 for V8 which make me more hard than average looks.
Hyperion2007
11-05-22, 04:58
I was in Sharks last weekend and nothing changed price wise. As someone wrote prices only ever go up in these places not down. I went with 3 girls I've been with before and none had changed their price, of course they are very unlikely to say to me I could pay less than before.It was a complete invention, the forum were this rumor originated is primarily for winny little men whose only metric for the quality of a girl is how much money she ask.
I'm sure the bad reports on here isn't helping, before I went to Sharks for the very first time 5 years ago I read reports on ISG and they were all favourable now the reports would put me off. Personally I still enjoy my time there, I tried Acapulco Gold once and just found in boring, Sharks on a weekend still has a good atmosphere.I am really sad for the english speaking people whose almost only source for information about FKKs is here. You already have some report of people who tried low cost clubs in NRW because of some post here, to go back without one room and stay bored all day in a small club.
Sharks is evidently the best club in Germany right now and it's not in spite of the fact that the girls are expensive, it's because of it. The management should not ask of the girls to lower their prices but they need to get rid of the bad apples that give shitty services.
If someone suggested paying 60 per half a few years ago on this site, a bunch of haughty vigilantes would jump on them and beat up with "you are destroying the market. Shame on you" attacks. Now we are wishing for 75/30 min.There are some on here that think they should be paying a figure based on inflation and / or average workers pay increases in the last x years. The simple fact of the matter is the girls can charge what they like. If people don't like a 100% increase then they too can exercise their right to not pay it.
HammerTime96
11-05-22, 11:14
If someone suggested paying 60 per half a few years ago on this site, a bunch of haughty vigilantes would jump on them and beat up with "you are destroying the market. Shame on you" attacks. Now we are wishing for 75/30 min.Most EU employees working for a pay check didn't get a 20% pay increase (from 50430 to 60430 is 20 percent) 5-10 years ago. As a matter of fact, they still don't get a 20% pay increase, despite the massive inflation, yet the WGs recently got a 100% pay increase!
So while most European employees barely got any pay increases for many years while still paying ever-increasing taxes to support the socialist spending programs from corrupt politicians, WGs have been living a more or less tax free lifestyle while at the same time hiking their prices because stupid sex tourists were overpaying for standard services by leaving gigantic tips and-or by paying for extras that were part of the standard package.
Another major point it that all those transactions in FKK clubs are in cash only over which those WG pay almost ZERO income taxes. Since a few years WGs now pay some symbolic tax each month because they need to be registered, but this probably is just a fraction of what they actually make. In today's environment how will the German tax ever find out how many rooms a WG does per year? Answer: never!
WGs want to justify their ridiculous prices? Great, so then let's level the playing field by stationing some German tax office inspectors at the door leading to the girl's changing room, inspect how much cash the WG has in her hand after getting paid, and then let those WGs pay German income taxes and social insurance premiums over every since Euro they make, because this has been the reality for us male customers for many many years!
Regarding the overpaying, I've asked this before, but never got an answer from the 'geniuses' here: why would anyone voluntarily pay more for something? Next time when you buy a t-shirt online or in a shop, look to see if there's an option to overpay. When you buy a $50 k car, would you voluntarily pay $55 k 'because you feel sorry for the sales guy / gal?' When you go to the supermarket, do you tip the cashier 10-20% 'because he / she is so nice?' When you get a $80 electricity bill, do you send them $100 and tell them 'keep the change?' Of course not!
The level of Socialist Stupidity here is mind-boggling. LOL!
Hyperion2007
11-05-22, 12:42
I got the feeling both would be billed separately so it would be 200/30.Usually it's a package: the GFE experience. Never took it: a girl that offer that type of extra is usually not very good, and there is so many girls that do great services why bother with those girls?
If someone suggested paying 60 per half a few years ago on this site, a bunch of haughty vigilantes would jump on them and beat up with "you are destroying the market. Shame on you" attacks. Now we are wishing for 75/30 min.Actually I doubt that very much. Such a haughty vigilante would certainly have been shouted down. 50/30 was around like forever. A few years ago many girls were actually charging 100/30 to include DFK and DATY. Actually from as early as 2011/12. Very few girls even suggested 75/30, their increases were always by 100%.
Actually I doubt that very much. Such a haughty vigilante would certainly have been shouted down. 50/30 was around like forever. A few years ago many girls were actually charging 100/30 to include DFK and DATY. Actually from as early as 2011/12. Very few girls even suggested 75/30, their increases were always by 100%.Here is a link.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3225-FKK-Sharks-Darmstadt&p=2030442&viewfull=1#post2030442.
Read the comments around mid 2017 when the laws changed in Germany. There was tons of discussion in various thread ahead of that change and after. Even at that time, any proposal to increase the price to 60 for 30 minutes was met with a lot of vehemence.
Yes, some girls charged extra for DFK. Not that many for DATY as I recall. I think most mongers either avoided them or took the 50 sessions w / o DFK or DATY. I never paid extra for those. Some girls would include DFK in a 100 for 60 and I was OK with that.
I can see why girls didn't care as much for 10 E and 20 E increments. Even a decade ago, their focus was on snagging Asian tourists who would pay double and triple the rate or upselling quick extras like CIM. Some girls did ask for tips but that's about it. The 60 E for 30 proposal always originated from mongers but there was considerable resistance.
I just spoke with 2 men in Sauna club Penelope in Dortmund tonight and they told me that as of yesterday the Sharks owners asked the girls to drop their price down to $70 from $100 to try and bring back customers.
Can anyone verify this?
They showed me some comments about it on another German site.
I was in Sharks last week and the prices were still $100.
I'll head back to Sharks in 2 days to confirm.Well I was at the club earlier this week and took five rooms with five different girls and all charged the new norm of 150 an hour.
I choose well as three gave excellent service, one was good and the other so so.
You can still get a good service at Sharks but you have to select well.
There are 3/4 girls I know that charge the old club rate (100 1 hour) but obviously they are not stunners.
The guy who said the rates have generally dropped was totally incorrect.
Who do you guys think provide the most GFE service at Sharks?
HammerTime96
11-05-22, 18:39
Usually it's a package: the GFE experience. Never took it: a girl that offer that type of extra is usually not very good, and there is so many girls that do great services why bother with those girls?Exactly!
When a WG gives someone the bullshit "my standard service costs 50, but if you want it extra nice with kissing then it costs 100" upsell line, then there is only one possible correct answer: say "no thank you" and walk away!
Her standard service will suck and her 'extra nice' service will suck too, with a high probability that she will ruin the entire experience by continuing to upsell while in the room after the customer has agreed to the 'extra nice' service. She won't care though, because at this point she will know that; a) the customer is a tourist so she will most likely not run into him again, b) the customer is a 'simp' and he will most likely not cause a scene at the reception, and c) she will get paid for the verbally agreed upon 'extra nice' service anyway, regardless if she fucks him or not.
Being a simp: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simp.
Most EU employees working for a pay check didn't get a 20% pay increase (from 50430 to 60430 is 20 percent) 5-10 years ago. As a matter of fact, they still don't get a 20% pay increase, despite the massive inflation, yet the WGs recently got a 100% pay increase!
So while most European employees barely got any pay increases for many years while still paying ever-increasing taxes to support the socialist spending programs from corrupt politicians, WGs have been living a more or less tax free lifestyle while at the same time hiking their prices because stupid sex tourists were overpaying for standard services by leaving gigantic tips and-or by paying for extras that were part of the standard package.
Another major point it that all those transactions in FKK clubs are in cash only over which those WG pay almost ZERO income taxes. Since a few years WGs now pay some symbolic tax each month because they need to be registered, but this probably is just a fraction of what they actually make. In today's environment how will the German tax ever find out how many rooms a WG does per year? Answer: never!.You cheap charlies have it all wrong. If the girls were making 2 x, I would be jumping for joy. That means an influx of great talent that will drive down the price. Instead, you are seeing the equivalent of a death spiral of a failing restaurant. Girl are increasing prices because they can't cover their costs. That is desperation. It is like a restaurant during covid increasing prices and reducing portions. That only drives the customers away, exacerbing the problem until failure. I suspect the clubs have increased the entry for girls due to fewer male guest. In the next few years, many clubs will fail. There were already too many clubs which were too big before covid. The smarter punters and girls have moved on to different venues or quit the business. One of the most successful clubs (I don't count the mega clubs) is Golden Time. They kept prices relatively low and service was high. Sure, they had a door policy. But that was to keep the undesirable people out. It attracted rich guys who were spending money on the girls instead of sitting around and eating. Many drove hours from Belgium to visit the club. The working girls made so much money, there was a wait list and management frequently let underperformers go. They listened to customer complaints, made corrections and frequently plowed money back into the business so that things were fresh. It was a perfect balance between customers, management and the girls. The key to any club is talent (looks and service) along with big spenders. The smart Germans always knew that they benefitted from the high spending tourists. This attracted better girls and they got better prices. The cheap punter always complains about prices. Well, there are always lower cost options like street walkers and flop houses. With the coming inflation and dire economy, things will probably get worse. A smart girl keeps her service high relative to the other girls and is constantly busy. That allows her to choose the best clients instead of the other way around. She will earn more because she works more and some guys will actually pay more just to secure a slot. In the past, there were some girls that were in so much demand that punters would offer higher rates or prepay just to get a session. But that only works when there is a lot of money in the room.
There are some on here that think they should be paying a figure based on inflation and / or average workers pay increases in the last x years. The simple fact of the matter is the girls can charge what they like. If people don't like a 100% increase then they too can exercise their right to not pay it.Your last sentence is a bit redundant, no? Yes, pretty much all the guys who stayed away from the clubs have been exercising that right in a way. Only a few thousand mongers attend, several millions stay away.
As freelance girls on their own they could charge what they want but in a club, management has a right to put a structure around pricing. If a girl charged your friend 50 but charged you 100 for the same, you too may get passed. Just one example. One of the things we all liked about FKKs was that there was a known price structure in place. It is a major turnoff to haggle every little bit of service with every girl.
CPI indexing would be silly. If inflation was 2%, 50 becomes 51, then 52 and a couple of pennies and so on. Prices were bound to go up in steps, but whether the right amount is 10 or 20 or 50 or 100, that is up for debate.
Escape Artist
11-05-22, 22:26
You cheap charlies have it all wrong. If the girls were making 2 x, I would be jumping for joy. That means an influx of great talent that will drive down the price. Instead, you are seeing the equivalent of a death spiral of a failing restaurant. Girl are increasing prices because they can't cover their costs. That is desperation. It is like a restaurant during covid increasing prices and reducing portions. That only drives the customers away, exacerbing the problem until failure. I suspect the clubs have increased the entry for girls due to fewer male guest. In the next few years, many clubs will fail. There were already too many clubs which were too big before covid. The smarter punters and girls have moved on to different venues or quit the business. One of the most successful clubs (I don't count the mega clubs) is Golden Time. They kept prices relatively low and service was high. Sure, they had a door policy. But that was to keep the undesirable people out. It attracted rich guys who were spending money on the girls instead of sitting around and eating. Many drove hours from Belgium to visit the club. The working girls made so much money, there was a wait list and management frequently let underperformers go. They listened to customer complaints, made corrections and frequently plowed money back into the business so that things were fresh. It was a perfect balance between customers, management and the girls. The key to any club is talent (looks and service) along with big spenders. The smart Germans always knew that they benefitted from the high spending tourists. This attracted better girls and they got better prices. The cheap punter always complains about prices. Well, there are always lower cost options like street walkers and flop houses. With the coming inflation and dire economy, things will probably get worse. A smart girl keeps her service high relative to the other girls and is constantly busy. That allows her to choose the best clients instead of the other way around. She will earn more because she works more and some guys will actually pay more just to secure a slot. In the past, there were some girls that were in so much demand that punters would offer higher rates or prepay just to get a session. But that only works when there is a lot of money in the room.I agree with the majority of this post but hold some reservation with a few points. The assessment of the great girls staying busy by keeping up service and selecting their customers is right on however there is a flaw into thinking that would be the norm for more than a few unicorns. Girls like Mandy, Sandra, and Evita of Sharks, Kate of GT and Gold, or Lucy of Acapulco / Great Palast / Penelope are the rare unicorns who practice this work model. It is a pipe dream to think that there would be enough girls like that for that sort of work ethic and professionalism to become the norm.
I sort of concur with the club death spiral prediction except that we can see that clubs can remain open even with slow businesses. Oase, Manhattan, and World have not been packed clubs for an extended amount of time since at least 5 years ago, yet somehow they remain open. My first thought of answering how this can be is that these clubs exist to be more than just a profitable business. Manhattan and World are owned by Hells Angels syndicates so it's easy to guess why these unprofitable to barely profitable businesses stayed open all of these years. Oase is basically a rich owner's playground so being profitable is not the concern. Perhaps Sharks is different since they seem to be a club that reinvest money in itself as evident by the constant renovations. Then again, it's easy to launder a lot of money by writing off renovation expenses by inflating the renovation cost and doing the job cheaply and reporting a higher market-appropriate cost.
Catalea is a model type but her prices have gone up and service down. Meanwhile she wears very heavy make up. 200 for 60 min is definitely overpriced. When she was new in business, she used to kiss, some session were longer than agreed 30 min with GFE like experience. She didn't kiss during last last session few months back. Her service is not the same.
Her body is flawless but her face is just so so. Service has definitely declined but is still decent. There are very few girls can keep their service level high over time and I don't blame them. Workaholics are rare in real life. Just move on and find next one.I agree to an extent. Flawless model body, great face, but her smile is so-so (it's the short teeth that look weird, in my opinion). And she smokes like crazy, as do plenty of other women in the club unfortunately. And the pussy isn't the tightest (sounds silly but you start to notice and compare these things when you've seen the same women so often).
As far as pricing and service goes, let's be fair, she can charge whatever she wants (as can Brenda). However, some women are trying to charge 100 euros for 30 minutes, and that's crazy, because they look far worse. Every woman thinks they're worth 100 euros for 30 minutes and what's worse, they harass you to try to get it. I wish there was a no harassing the customer policy.
Usually it's a package: the GFE experience. Never took it: a girl that offer that type of extra is usually not very good, and there is so many girls that do great services why bother with those girls?
I never took it either. In my opinion, a GFE is taking a girl out to movies, dinner, sightseeing for several hours to all day. Its not 30-60 minutes of laying on a bed. I dont want any extra costs, upselling, ad-ons, kissing, etc. I want the BBBJ, sex with condom, and I will decide later if I want to re-book you.
Hookers are not very good businesswomen. The girls saw an opportunity and increased their prices by 100%.
I disagree, if a WG looks like Catalina or Brenda and provides good service, she has every right to charge whatever she wants. Supply and demand.
But if she provides bad service (rushed, complaining, time watcher, upselling etc), no matter what she looks like, then that is a stupid woman who will not get repeat clients. As well as the ones who get fat and still expect to make money.
It was a complete invention, the forum were this rumor originated is primarily for winny little men whose only metric for the quality of a girl is how much money she ask.
I am really sad for the english speaking people whose almost only source for information about FKKs is here. You already have some report of people who tried low cost clubs in NRW because of some post here, to go back without one room and stay bored all day in a small club.
Sharks is evidently the best club in Germany right now and it's not in spite of the fact that the girls are expensive, it's because of it. The management should not ask of the girls to lower their prices but they need to get rid of the bad apples that give shitty services.No, Sharks girls are not best value for quality in Germany on 2022 , only for quantity, but very few pretties worthing rate they ask, none worthing 200/60 escort rate in Germany. When You know a bit, You find better values in NRW. Including 6 NL on border, I would rank big Sharks only 4th or 5th in Germany on 2022 for quality, when I prefer quality than quantity. Only 3 hours in room at Sharks on this year, arithmetics talk. Girls who ask the most expensive in brothels are usually not the best, nor even the prettiest. Highest level girls usually prefer to make regulars than fucking tourists. Sharks is on this year for tourists behavior, when most best girls were for 100/60 on 2021 . Normal if less crowded after touristic Summer, when girls make clients stay away from Sharks, like they did at Oase. Why to pay more expensive for less pretties and not real GFE for me.
I agree with the majority of this post but hold some reservation with a few points. The assessment of the great girls staying busy by keeping up service and selecting their customers is right on however there is a flaw into thinking that would be the norm for more than a few unicorns. Girls like Mandy, Sandra, and Evita of Sharks, Kate of GT and Gold, or Lucy of Acapulco / Great Palast / Penelope are the rare unicorns who practice this work model. It is a pipe dream to think that there would be enough girls like that for that sort of work ethic and professionalism to become the norm.
I sort of concur with the club death spiral prediction except that we can see that clubs can remain open even with slow businesses. Oase, Manhattan, and World have not been packed clubs for an extended amount of time since at least 5 years ago, yet somehow they remain open. My first thought of answering how this can be is that these clubs exist to be more than just a profitable business. Manhattan and World are owned by Hells Angels syndicates so it's easy to guess why these unprofitable to barely profitable businesses stayed open all of these years. Oase is basically a rich owner's playground so being profitable is not the concern. Perhaps Sharks is different since they seem to be a club that reinvest money in itself as evident by the constant renovations. Then again, it's easy to launder a lot of money by writing off renovation expenses by inflating the renovation cost and doing the job cheaply and reporting a higher market-appropriate cost.Kate at Gold? Selecting clients? Sandra and Mandy selecting clients? So funny.
You cheap charlies have it all wrong. If the girls were making 2 x, I would be jumping for joy. That means an influx of great talent that will drive down the price. Instead, you are seeing the equivalent of a death spiral of a failing restaurant. Girl are increasing prices because they can't cover their costs. That is desperation. It is like a restaurant during covid increasing prices and reducing portions. That only drives the customers away, exacerbing the problem until failure. I suspect the clubs have increased the entry for girls due to fewer male guest. In the next few years, many clubs will fail. There were already too many clubs which were too big before covid. The smarter punters and girls have moved on to different venues or quit the business. One of the most successful clubs (I don't count the mega clubs) is Golden Time. They kept prices relatively low and service was high. Sure, they had a door policy. But that was to keep the undesirable people out. It attracted rich guys who were spending money on the girls instead of sitting around and eating. Many drove hours from Belgium to visit the club. The working girls made so much money, there was a wait list and management frequently let underperformers go. They listened to customer complaints, made corrections and frequently plowed money back into the business so that things were fresh. It was a perfect balance between customers, management and the girls. The key to any club is talent (looks and service) along with big spenders. The smart Germans always knew that they benefitted from the high spending tourists. This attracted better girls and they got better prices. The cheap punter always complains about prices. Well, there are always lower cost options like street walkers and flop houses. With the coming inflation and dire economy, things will probably get worse. A smart girl keeps her service high relative to the other girls and is constantly busy. That allows her to choose the best clients instead of the other way around. She will earn more because she works more and some guys will actually pay more just to secure a slot. In the past, there were some girls that were in so much demand that punters would offer higher rates or prepay just to get a session. But that only works when there is a lot of money in the room.You know nothing about this business if You think girls asking the most expensive will be on the highest level. Highest level usually don t speak about money but try to make You return, they know if they fuck You, You won t return but only few maso. Girls who ask 100/150/30 or 200 or more for 1 hour at Sharks are not on the highest level can find in Germany, but they know painful balls not able to control will pay even too expensive. For Zoncolan, I spent 3 entries at Wellcum and 1 at Andiamo for 339 € , but only 100 € in room for 40 mn with lots of good french kiss with a full natural with no tattoes, taller than 170 . Not much spent on girls even some pretties, 2 ex Globe at Wellcum and not among the prettiest, but I don t pay for shit level for Italians, like I try to avoid to buy shit chinese or korean products, I won t buy one of their cars. Even heavy balls, but I try my best in Zoncolan.
Exactly!
When a WG gives someone the bullshit "my standard service costs 50, but if you want it extra nice with kissing then it costs 100" upsell line, then there is only one possible correct answer: say "no thank you" and walk away!
Her standard service will suck and her 'extra nice' service will suck too, with a high probability that she will ruin the entire experience by continuing to upsell while in the room after the customer has agreed to the 'extra nice' service. She won't care though, because at this point she will know that; a) the customer is a tourist so she will most likely not run into him again, b) the customer is a 'simp' and he will most likely not cause a scene at the reception, and c) she will get paid for the verbally agreed upon 'extra nice' service anyway, regardless if she fucks him or not.
Being a simp: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simp.
Who do you guys think provide the most GFE service at Sharks?She was able to play with me, she is full natural with beautiful eyes, so I would advice Sena even not anymore for 100/60 but at least she is able to kiss like a woman and fire in bed, not a small pussy.
Escape Artist
11-06-22, 15:57
Kate at Gold? Selecting clients? Sandra and Mandy selecting clients? So funny.My mistake, Kate at Prime.
Mandy was never sitting alone. Sandra would intentionally speak to her clients in a private area before rooms. Neither never lowered or tiered their service for different rates.
Kate at Gold? Selecting clients? Sandra and Mandy selecting clients? So funny.I never booked girls in advance. Mandy was probably the most booked lady in Sharks. Sometimes when I went to Mandy she would tell me she has a client coming to her in x minutes and x minutes later she would be going to the room with the client. You got Mandy without booking if you timed her well or are just lucky.
EuroTravel1234
11-06-22, 18:52
I never booked girls in advance. Mandy was probably the most booked lady in Sharks. Sometimes when I went to Mandy she would tell me she has a client coming to her in x minutes and x minutes later she would be going to the room with the client. You got Mandy without booking if you timed her well or are just lucky.Who is Mandy? New girl at Shark??
Thanks.
My mistake, Kate at Prime.
Mandy was never sitting alone. Sandra would intentionally speak to her clients in a private area before rooms. Neither never lowered or tiered their service for different rates.It was Acapulco at her time until ramadan 2017 . I saw many times Sandra. De and Mandi. De not busy when I visited weekly, but not anymore on this year, when I fully agree, even no wow for Mandi on our discovery and problem of image for Sandra, both not top beauties, but lovely and on higher level than now too expensive girls at Sharks, but it was past. Now, even golden gate is 130/60 and some girls don t kiss.
I never booked girls in advance. Mandy was probably the most booked lady in Sharks. Sometimes when I went to Mandy she would tell me she has a client coming to her in x minutes and x minutes later she would be going to the room with the client. You got Mandy without booking if you timed her well or are just lucky.I saw many times Mandi. De not busy when I visited weekly. Lovely, real will to please, but no wow for me, so, no repeat. Maybe we will have to book new french girl, when never had any in FKK land, when those seen in Saarland and the one at Sharks on 2016 were not pretty enough.
I agree to an extent. Flawless model body, great face, but her smile is so-so (it's the short teeth that look weird, in my opinion). And she smokes like crazy, as do plenty of other women in the club unfortunately. And the pussy isn't the tightest (sounds silly but you start to notice and compare these things when you've seen the same women so often).
As far as pricing and service goes, let's be fair, she can charge whatever she wants (as can Brenda). However, some women are trying to charge 100 euros for 30 minutes, and that's crazy, because they look far worse. Every woman thinks they're worth 100 euros for 30 minutes and what's worse, they harass you to try to get it. I wish there was a no harassing the customer policy.
I never took it either. In my opinion, a GFE is taking a girl out to movies, dinner, sightseeing for several hours to all day. Its not 30-60 minutes of laying on a bed. I dont want any extra costs, upselling, ad-ons, kissing, etc. I want the BBBJ, sex with condom, and I will decide later if I want to re-book you.
I disagree, if a WG looks like Catalina or Brenda and provides good service, she has every right to charge whatever she wants. Supply and demand.
But if she provides bad service (rushed, complaining, time watcher, upselling etc), no matter what she looks like, then that is a stupid woman who will not get repeat clients. As well as the ones who get fat and still expect to make money.Different experiences, when 180 Katalea became a small pussy after only 4 months at Sharks on October 2021 , for my size and rythm, when I m not Rocco Siffredi but a little bit more respectful about women, but became boring for sex and really not anymore worthing 150/60 , when Sena and her friend were on far higher level for sex with GFE, for only 100/60 . The fall for freshness and quality compare to July 2021 .
You know nothing about this business if You think girls asking the most expensive will be on the highest level. Highest level usually don t speak about money but try to make You return, they know if they fuck You, You won t return but only few maso. Girls who ask 100/150/30 or 200 or more for 1 hour at Sharks are not on the highest level can find in Germany, but they know painful balls not able to control will pay even too expensive. For Zoncolan, I spent 3 entries at Wellcum and 1 at Andiamo for 339 , but only 100 in room for 40 mn with lots of good french kiss with a full natural with no tattoes, taller than 170 . Not much spent on girls even some pretties, 2 ex Globe at Wellcum and not among the prettiest, but I don t pay for shit level for Italians, like I try to avoid to buy shit chinese or korean products, I won t buy one of their cars. Even heavy balls, but I try my best in Zoncolan.Those who believe women respond to money spend their efforts to earn it and get the hot girls. Others spend their time driving far distances and engaging in pillow talk hoping to attract the attention of hot women. The winners are usually quiet. We don't brag, but share information with other like minded people. No need to waste time looking for illusions. Classy women know their worth, and they deliver if you can afford them.
Those who believe women respond to money spend their efforts to earn it and get the hot girls. Others spend their time driving far distances and engaging in pillow talk hoping to attract the attention of hot women. The winners are usually quiet. We don't brag, but share information with other like minded people. No need to waste time looking for illusions. Classy women know their worth, and they deliver if you can afford them.Exactly right, as the age old saying goes 'money talks'.
Those who believe women respond to money spend their efforts to earn it and get the hot girls. Others spend their time driving far distances and engaging in pillow talk hoping to attract the attention of hot women. The winners are usually quiet. We don't brag, but share information with other like minded people. No need to waste time looking for illusions. Classy women know their worth, and they deliver if you can afford them.With my little experience, almost visiting weekly 2 or 3 clubs, except on my holidays, since nearly 10 years, at least I learned and understood high level girls don't speak about money, but take what you give them and then judge if they want to make you a regular, when I m a weekly repeating specialist and got most of high level I saw, but we may not experience same, from what we are. Some want to start their day with me and even Germans have to wait. Too many ask me not to go with other girls: you do same with other girls? I always try to avoid to speak about money, I hate to negotiate, killing my desire.
WaterMeltingg
11-08-22, 21:54
With my little experience, almost visiting weekly 2 or 3 clubs, except on my holidays, since nearly 10 years, at least I learned and understood high level girls don't speak about money, but take what you give them and then judge if they want to make you a regular, when I m a weekly repeating specialist and got most of high level I saw, but we may not experience same, from what we are. Some want to start their day with me and even Germans have to wait. Too many ask me not to go with other girls: you do same with other girls? I always try to avoid to speak about money, I hate to negotiate, killing my desire.There were times, I used to take girls directly to room after discussing only the service part and no talk to money at all. It adds to GFE feeling. After the session we would go to locker and pay 50€ + tip based on performance. I had this schock moment with Esther after Corona. She demanded 100€ after the performance. Skipped the tip. Still it is more for her, in my opinion. Since then, I always confirm the price before going to the room.
There were times, I used to take girls directly to room after discussing only the service part and no talk to money at all. It adds to GFE feeling. After the session we would go to locker and pay 50 + tip based on performance. I had this schock moment with Esther after Corona. She demanded 100 after the performance. Skipped the tip. Still it is more for her, in my opinion. Since then, I always confirm the price before going to the room.I like so much not to speak about service nor rate, but to discover and to surprise the girl, some then losing control like a 32 yo Romanian woman at Freubad, but I don t go with upselling little average Romanians, so, difficult for me to find a attractive now at Sharks, even difficult to find at Globe.
Have been twice to Artemis, Berlin.
NOT impressed.
Have read all of the sometimes negative reports about Sharks. Was in Frankfurt Tuesday and visited Sharks.
Was impressed.
At least 30-40 girls, and not more than 10-20 men. Was told that the time. Around 1900 - and especially the fact that Monday and Tuesday are quite days meant that I could choose more freely.
Of course too much silicone and too much botox lips. But still ample of opportunities left to choose a young, slim girl. Most if not all looked to be under 30 years old. And most if not all looking decent to outright stunning.
Went with a Moldavian girl 25 years old (Monica? 100/30 and gentle try to upsell (kissing? I said no.). But sweet, slim girl, extremely pretty and almost GFE like session. Yes, ok, how much GFE do you get in 30 minutes. But she was definitely worth the money. Oh, and we had a 50 year difference at least with no problem at all.
Yes, I know, we would all like to get back to 50-70 EUR for 30. But this is 2022 and the general rate is 100/30. In London the standard rate for a standard escort is now GBP 300 for 1 h.
If we do not like it we can always say no.
Would I go back to Sharks: Hell, yes!
Waking up early in the morning, working all day, just normal life, but 2 hours in traffic to leave Paris, then 4 hours fighting with front drive in fog when thunder V8 luxurious real S5 is not same quality than old lady and I should even be less fast on long distances, furthermore under difficult conditions, so I arrived at nearly 10 pm, exhausted, just wishing for diner, apple juice, and then going to sleep in white leather, at least great for bed, like on a milky skin beauty. But, sitting, nearly hidden, a rare chic elegant at Sharks and in FKK land, so I needed a bit of time to be able to walk to her, I couldn t miss such elegant look, even I would have to rub on the floor to reach her. A new Audi without silicon, not from Ingolstadt but Munich, as elegant as real S5 , but a real Audi telling 100/30 , 200/60 , extra for FK, BBBJ, DATY, fingering, each for 50 more, meaning 250/300/30 for my GFE, when only Balkanians tramps just able for bottles and few lost Asians in the night, but I m used to Audi and 2022 is my German year for cars and girls. For me, after negotiating even I told her I hate this and she answered same, but when no other real business potential than a tramp like me, when Sharks was quite empty and no business for not hunting girls and she doesn t hunt, coming from escorting, but only hunters trying to fuck few clients with 3 some, the pretty making work the less pretty, so we could find a deal. Sharks girls fucking clients with too expensive low quality make less clients going to room, so I could get 150 € less for my GFE and when she just arrived from Munich, great kissing, coming to kiss me while sex, so sensitive, asking me to fuck her, no too big, a German, full natural and elegant who loves sex, at least for our time. Even Audi are too expensive and we have to improve like I have to improve front drive even more than already planned for engine, and would be more comfortable if I could be less exhausted, but when I didn t notice french girl, but I arrived maybe too late when some girls finish quite early when almost no more business at night except on Saturday, but if she returns to Sharks, then good reason to return to Sharks for her rare quality. Wellcum seemed so low level on next day, when my best visit at Sharks on 2022 , even Sofi. De was good, but with Audi Munich, reached rare quality and I wish for exceptionnal on next time as we told. It was already on higher level than all my rooms at Globe on this year and for 50% less expensive for a real so fresh GFE for me.
, but if she returns to Sharks, then good reason to return to Sharks for her rare quality. Wellcum seemed so low level on next day, when my best visit at Sharks on 2022 , even Sofi. De was good, but with Audi Munich, reached rare quality and I wish for exceptionnal on next time as we told. It was already on higher level than all my rooms at Globe on this year and for 50% less expensive for a real so fresh GFE for me.Congratulation Sirioja you found new good girl in Sharks, have fun.
Yes, I know, we would all like to get back to 50-70 EUR for 30. But this is 2022 and the general rate is 100/30. In London the standard rate for a standard escort is now GBP 300 for 1 h.
Would I go back to Sharks: Hell, yes!100% agree with the final sentiment. FKKs are fabulous.
300 for one hour standard for escort in London? Whilst I am NOT a fan of escorts at all 300 is far from standard with a LOT of of escort sites offering selections of girls at 150 and 200/ hour.
I would pay more every time to be in FKK but it has become expensive. By the time you pay your entry (say 65 at Sharks), had a few drinks, taken a girl for 200 add an extra or two and you're at 350/400 for only one session. That's a long way from the old prices and it has made other locations more viable such as Dubai which has better options.
100% agree with the final sentiment. FKKs are fabulous.
300 for one hour standard for escort in London? Whilst I am NOT a fan of escorts at all 300 is far from standard with a LOT of of escort sites offering selections of girls at 150 and 200/ hour.
I would pay more every time to be in FKK but it has become expensive. By the time you pay your entry (say 65 at Sharks), had a few drinks, taken a girl for 200 add an extra or two and you're at 350/400 for only one session. That's a long way from the old prices and it has made other locations more viable such as Dubai which has better options.To be fair, you can't include drinks in your accounting. Drinks at Sharks are not that much more expensive than at any bar or pub in NYc and London. If you didn't have those drinks at the fuck club, perhaps you'd have had them near home.
If you are taking only one or two sessions for a flyover night in Frankfurt, the incremental burden on your budget is only a couple of hundred more Euro. For Americans, the burden is even less due to favorable currency.
Where things went south is on the volume purchasing side. Sex tourists would station near the clubs for 4 to 7 days and consume 20+ sessions. That would now cost them an extra 1,000 to 2,000 more.
Add the sub par service, the lousy attitude and the heightened haggle -- those are the reasons why FKKs are now losing their attraction for sex tourists. However, if options closer to home are not so great, one still has to make this trek occasionally and make do with what's on offer.
100% agree with the final sentiment. FKKs are fabulous.
300 for one hour standard for escort in London? Whilst I am NOT a fan of escorts at all 300 is far from standard with a LOT of of escort sites offering selections of girls at 150 and 200/ hour.
I would pay more every time to be in FKK but it has become expensive. By the time you pay your entry (say 65 at Sharks), had a few drinks, taken a girl for 200 add an extra or two and you're at 350/400 for only one session. That's a long way from the old prices and it has made other locations more viable such as Dubai which has better options.For my GFE, my chic elegant Audi Munich told 350/60 , but thanks to little Romanians who are fucking their own business, following Oase girls, asking too expensive for how they look and are able to, except on Saturday evening, with less tourists now, Sharks is quite empty and most guys don t even go to room, Balkanians preferring to drink, when I was controlled on my 3 runs through Bavaria, like a go fast. No other business, so, for me as she said, we did deal down 200/60 . Too expensive, but her image which is so important for my desire and her no limit on fresh GFE did worth such expensive rate. At the end, I told her I want even more for same rate on next time, she answered she wish we will meet again. I preferred to go for Zoncolan and Mortirolo when she stay just until Sunday. Others seen than her, I would not pay more than 100 . All girls don t worth same rate for me, chic, elegance and fresh GFE worth more expensive than porn at Globe or average looks.
Congratulation Sirioja you found new good girl in Sharks, have fun.On beginning of the year, I got ex Palace superstar elegant blond Colombian Marta, my first Colombian, for 100 for 30 very full minutes, but as she cummed like a rocket, 30 mn were enough and no need to rush to return when she told me her schedule when she moved from no more business at Palace as she told. Later, got German Vanessa, lovely but no need to repeat. Later, German Sofi, best of 3 , but I don t want to repeat for 200/60 . For 150/60 , I would have repeated when I saw her for hours at the bar. Then, Barbi I gave only 150/60 for her low level, only pleasure was her hardening and growing nipples. For her image and level for my GFE, Audi Munich is by far the most interesting and worthing more expensive for me than others, first of the year at Sharks I wish to repeat, when unfortunately Sena elegant friend was missing on all my visits when she was really good GFE with even more charm than Audi, for 100/60 on our many rooms on 2021 . At Globe, 300/60 and no image like Audi and no charm like T. Short but best visit of the year, even I was exhausted.
Right now, prices are high and quality is low, eventually that will change again but at this time I will not be visiting Germany solely for the FKK's. I need other reasons to visit and don't see myself going back before next June.
Right now, prices are high and quality is low, eventually that will change again but at this time I will not be visiting Germany solely for the FKK's. I need other reasons to visit and don't see myself going back before next June.How can you be so sure? I'm also delaying any trips to Germany, but how can you be so sure that prices and quality will eventually find a new acceptable equilibrium?
Right now, prices are high and quality is low, eventually that will change again but at this time I will not be visiting Germany solely for the FKK's. I need other reasons to visit and don't see myself going back before next June.
A ridiculous rate hike EUR100/30 make people to think twice before visiting FKKs. Unless they have other things to do, why would they need to travel miles away if they could get similar result on their doorstep.
Energy, gas shortage in Germany is another problem when visiting FKK during winter in Germany. FKK need a huge amount of Electricity and Gas. It is ranging from sauna, steam-room, to heat water, (hot shower, tea/coffee machines), spaces (rooms) with such huge amount of spaces.
But this is 2022 and the general rate is 100/30. In London the standard rate for a standard escort is now GBP 300 for 1 h.
Yep, for those who are clueless, those who do not know the London scene. There is a board especially dedicated for the UK scene, please do not ask the link as it is not allowed here.
In some occasion a particular escort listed for a few hundreds GBP in posh listing agency, you will find out later that you could meet "EXACTLY" the same girl working in other free listing site with different name for half of that price or even lower. Typically you could find similar quality of gilr for GBP70-80/30m So draw your conclusion.
London have advantage compared to FKK cities in Germany as there are a lot of rich businessmen, wealthy people from Asia, the gulf, the US visiting the city every single year. How many such kind of visitors to FKK's cities in Germany each year??
If we do not like it we can always say no.
I completely agree with this.
How can you be so sure? I'm also delaying any trips to Germany, but how can you be so sure that prices and quality will eventually find a new acceptable equilibrium?Rates won t go much down, even Sharks girls are following Oase girls to fuck their own business. But Germany stay highest level for Caucasian girls, when the fall for quality at too expensive Globe and Wellcum is low quality for my sex but mostly for Italians quickie 30 mn, girls asking for massage, most not kissing. At Globe now, many girls from German clubs but not best ones nor prettiest. I found 4 really good girls in Germany on this year and not finished when my Summer tour will finish on next week end.
A ridiculous rate hike EUR100/30 make people to think twice before visiting FKKs. Unless they have other things to do, why would they need to travel miles away if they could get similar result on their doorstep.
Energy, gas shortage in Germany is another problem when visiting FKK during winter in Germany. FKK need a huge amount of Electricity and Gas. It is ranging from sauna, steam-room, to heat water, (hot shower, tea/coffee machines), spaces (rooms) with such huge amount of spaces.Exactly this, and also girls trying to upsell all the time is quite disappointing. My pre-covid experience with FKK was in Vienna and it was great. I think (if I remember correctly) was paying 70 euros per girl, with FK and fucking in several positions and very mild upselling for stuff like BBBJ, GREEK, etc. I went to the Palace a couple of days ago and it was all about upselling. 100 for 30, but if you want FK, another 50, if you want BBBJ, another 50, if you want to lick my pussy another 50. Fuck that. Too expensive.
I booked my hotel one more day just with the idea of spending time at a FKK, but I have to say I will most likely stay here. I don't want to pay the taxi, pay the entrance and then have to pay $$ for a normal experience. If I go with two girls, it will cost me at least 500 and more.
Exactly this, and also girls trying to upsell all the time is quite disappointing. My pre-covid experience with FKK was in Vienna and it was great. I think (if I remember correctly) was paying 70 euros per girl, with FK and fucking in several positions and very mild upselling for stuff like BBBJ, GREEK, etc. I went to the Palace a couple of days ago and it was all about upselling. 100 for 30, but if you want FK, another 50, if you want BBBJ, another 50, if you want to lick my pussy another 50. Fuck that. Too expensive.
I booked my hotel one more day just with the idea of spending time at a FKK, but I have to say I will most likely stay here. I don't want to pay the taxi, pay the entrance and then have to pay $$ for a normal experience. If I go with two girls, it will cost me at least 500 and more.Was BBBJ not included in your received services in Vienna? I'd not call that a great experience.
BBBJ, some amount of kissing and DATY are basic ingredients of any decent service. What you pay for that is a separate issue.
Rates won t go much down, even Sharks girls are following Oase girls to fuck their own business. But Germany stay highest level for Caucasian girls, when the fall for quality at too expensive Globe and Wellcum is low quality for my sex but mostly for Italians quickie 30 mn, girls asking for massage, most not kissing. At Globe now, many girls from German clubs but not best ones nor prettiest. I found 4 really good girls in Germany on this year and not finished when my Summer tour will finish on next week end.Shame on me, I forgot friendly Lea. De from Koln, too many German girls on this year, 5 and no silicon.
WaterMeltingg
11-14-22, 21:32
Exactly this, and also girls trying to upsell all the time is quite disappointing. My pre-covid experience with FKK was in Vienna and it was great. I think (if I remember correctly) was paying 70 euros per girl, with FK and fucking in several positions and very mild upselling for stuff like BBBJ, GREEK, etc. I went to the Palace a couple of days ago and it was all about upselling. 100 for 30, but if you want FK, another 50, if you want BBBJ, another 50, if you want to lick my pussy another 50. Fuck that. Too expensive.
I booked my hotel one more day just with the idea of spending time at a FKK, but I have to say I will most likely stay here. I don't want to pay the taxi, pay the entrance and then have to pay $$ for a normal experience. If I go with two girls, it will cost me at least 500 and more.I have noticed many guests coming to FKK just for Sauna and Food. They drink in main hall, look at naked beauties, talk to them but will not book them. This has become common sight across multiple FKKs. I personally, don't visit FKKs as frequently as before due to current price politics.
WaterMeltingg
11-14-22, 22:03
She is 26 year old, max 160 cm, very thin not a single gram fat on her body, Small A Cups. Interviewed her on the sofa, Everything on the menu that I wanted, agreed upon 100 € for 30 min.
We went upstairs. Indicated her to get a mirror room.
She prepared the bed and came to me to hug. Started teasing me and kissing on my body. It was a hint that this girl can perform. Sitting on bed her legs around my waist. Kissed her with tongue. It lasted good 10 minutes.
Pressed her little tits. She then wandered down and went over to hand job. I told her to engage her mouth. Body kisses. She started blowing. Eggs were taken care of while blowing.
My hands found their way between her legs. Playing with the pussy worked well. Fingering is not a problem. She positioned herself like that, that I could reach her pussy. Switched to 69. She smelled and tasted nice to me. She had taken a bath before we went to the room. I wish the blowjob was little more wet. Fucking was great. The way this tiny body was making moves in cowgirl. I could enjoy the view in mirror. I was ready to take control. Asked her for doggy. Could fuck deep in this position. Grip was quite well. Slap on ass was not a problem. I held her shoulders with light pressure. Making an eye contact in the mirror, filled the bag. She can be a porno girl in the act.
Repeat: hell ya.
Yep, for those who are clueless, those who do not know the London scene. There is a board especially dedicated for the UK scene, please do not ask the link as it is not allowed here.
In some occasion a particular escort listed for a few hundreds GBP in posh listing agency, you will find out later that you could meet "EXACTLY" the same girl working in other free listing site with different name for half of that price or even lower. Typically you could find similar quality of gilr for GBP70-80/30m So draw your conclusion.
London have advantage compared to FKK cities in Germany as there are a lot of rich businessmen, wealthy people from Asia, the gulf, the US visiting the city every single year. How many such kind of visitors to FKK's cities in Germany each year??
I completely agree with this.I met some escorts in Paris, coming from London business, some Polish, not on the highest level for my GFE. When I told them, they answered: but English are very different than your foreplay. Same than Wellcum girls telling: but Italians don't french kiss, they are better to chat. I don't think from Gulf guys would improve level of girls. I prefer to go to Germany than London for girls. I remember how english women love french guys, compare to what they have at home.
I have noticed many guests coming to FKK just for Sauna and Food. They drink in main hall, look at naked beauties, talk to them but will not book them. This has become common sight across multiple FKKs. I personally, don't visit FKKs as frequently as before due to current price politics.For Germans on discount Wednesday and Sunday, restaurant, bar and sauna. Upselling, not pretty enough girls don t attract to go to room. Only when see a wow, for me, like on last visit, but not for average, then I prefer to stay full heavy than wasting expensive. Even only 70 per 30 , but 5 visits at Wellcum and Andiamo with only 2 rooms. Some visits at Sharks on this year with no room.
Hyperion2007
11-15-22, 13:52
She is 26 year old, max 160 cm, very thin not a single gram fat on her body, Small A Cups. Interviewed her on the sofa, Everything on the menu that I wanted, agreed upon 100 for 30 min.Thanks for your review. When did you see Hillary? The latest news said that she moved to the Luxor some weeks ago, it would a good news if she was back in Sharks, she's a great girl with a very nice body.
1. Is fingering standard or an upsell?
2. Do the girls understand the acronyms, or would I say "eat pussy" instead of DATY?
3. Not a question but an idea: I plan to go to Sharks in a few weeks and my response to girls I don't want to go with will be: "Sorry, since the raised prices, I don't do nearly as many rooms." What if we all did this? They are unionizing against us, I'm sure we have some power as a collective.
Thanks for your review. When did you see Hillary? The latest news said that she moved to the Luxor some weeks ago, it would a good news if she was back in Sharks, she's a great girl with a very nice body.Is Luxor other club? Around FRA?
WaterMeltingg
11-15-22, 21:33
Thanks for your review. When did you see Hillary? The latest news said that she moved to the Luxor some weeks ago, it would a good news if she was back in Sharks, she's a great girl with a very nice body.Well that's a news ro me.
This is a late report. Two weeks back I was with her. Not sure if she is currently in Sharks. Planning the next visit soon. Will check if she is there.
1. Is fingering standard or an upsell?
2. Do the girls understand the acronyms, or would I say "eat pussy" instead of DATY?
3. Not a question but an idea: I plan to go to Sharks in a few weeks and my response to girls I don't want to go with will be: "Sorry, since the raised prices, I don't do nearly as many rooms." What if we all did this? They are unionizing against us, I'm sure we have some power as a collective.Yes, let s make syndicate of tramps. I answer I have no money. True, I have only for elegant beauties.
Hyperion2007
11-16-22, 09:30
1. Is fingering standard or an upsell?
2. Do the girls understand the acronyms, or would I say "eat pussy" instead of DATY?
3. Not a question but an idea: I plan to go to Sharks in a few weeks and my response to girls I don't want to go with will be: "Sorry, since the raised prices, I don't do nearly as many rooms." What if we all did this? They are unionizing against us, I'm sure we have some power as a collective.For 1 and 2 it depends of the girl: some don't like it at all and refuse it even for an extra (fingering and DATY), some it will be an extra (and even as an extra some will refuse fingering), some it's included (for the majority of the girls DATY is included, fingering is rarer).
3: if a girl propose a price that you don't want to pay then don't go with her. Nothing complicated here.
1. Is fingering standard or an upsell?
2. Do the girls understand the acronyms, or would I say "eat pussy" instead of DATY?
3. Not a question but an idea: I plan to go to Sharks in a few weeks and my response to girls I don't want to go with will be: "Sorry, since the raised prices, I don't do nearly as many rooms." What if we all did this? They are unionizing against us, I'm sure we have some power as a collective.There is no collective, not when it comes to the guys. We are the market, some will consume less, some stop going to the clubs altogether and some are price inelastic. As is commonly the case with most commodity products and services.
There is no point telling it to the girls either. It's not like they will reflect deeply on your editorial and modify their unionized behavior after talking to the other girls. Most of them walk away before you finish your sentences, in pursuit of an easier mark.
WaterMeltingg
11-16-22, 19:11
1. Is fingering standard or an upsell?
2. Do the girls understand the acronyms, or would I say "eat pussy" instead of DATY?
3. Not a question but an idea: I plan to go to Sharks in a few weeks and my response to girls I don't want to go with will be: "Sorry, since the raised prices, I don't do nearly as many rooms." What if we all did this? They are unionizing against us, I'm sure we have some power as a collective.Regarding point 3, not all the girls are same. Some them have an understanding when a guest declines a room after discussing the price. And some of the girls, who generally also pushes for room without chatting much would give disappointed look after hearing NO. By unionising not all of them will be against you. Since Sharks has a huge line up, girls have their own small group of friends. And as I said, not all of them have same mindset. So don't worry. You should say no if you feel it's not worth it.
BarryManila
11-17-22, 16:57
Is Luxor other club? Around FRA?Luxor is the old "Paradise" at Stuttgart. Opening was a few months ago.
Luxor is the old "Paradise" at Stuttgart. Opening was a few months ago.Thanks a lot. Now I have chic elegant but expensive German reason to return to Sharks. Stuttgart is for Porsche.
Ballsout69
11-19-22, 21:40
Can anyone tell me if any of the girls play with a female that I bring to the club? My wife really likes girls so she would either want to play with one solo or with me as part of a three some. Any input?
Can anyone tell me if any of the girls play with a female that I bring to the club? My wife really likes girls so she would either want to play with one solo or with me as part of a three some. Any input?I remember a couple with Dina. Hu. Call desk to ask if still possible. Some girls should lick your wife. If she is pretty and want more sex, can manage to organize.
A ridiculous rate hike EUR100/30 make people to think twice before visiting FKKs. Unless they have other things to do, why would they need to travel miles away if they could get similar result on their doorstep.Agree entirely with this. I have not been on an FKK tour since the pandemic. It was one of the things I was looking forward to when travel reopened but all the reports of prices doubling with no improvement in services or quality of girls has put me off from making a tour when between 2014 and 2019 I would visit 2 to 4 times a year with durations of 2 to 6 days at a time. I could live with 150/60 but 100/30 is prohibitive especially as one of the attractions for me would be to have 2, 3 or even 4 girls at a time. At E50 a pop you can also afford to experiment, have fluffer sessions, and write off and abort poor sessions etc but when I add costs of airline and hotel, I can get more pussy for the total cost staying in Dubai or London (even if E100 for 30 mins is still generally cheaper than equivalent girls in Dubai).
Unless things improve either by 30 min sessions coming down to a reasonable 70 euros or the new normal ensures good service unless you're unlucky and you actually get the full time then I can't see myself specifically travelling for a Frankfurt sex tour. I will still visit as I love the FKK scene and vibe but I think it's more likely to be a stopover trip in Frankfurt for 2-3 days when travelling between London and Dubai so I'm not paying extra for flights like I did earlier this year when I chose to have 2 days in Zurich on my way back to Dubai to sample the sex scene in Zurich.
Agree entirely with this. I have not been on an FKK tour since the pandemic. It was one of the things I was looking forward to when travel reopened but all the reports of prices doubling with no improvement in services or quality of girls has put me off from making a tour when between 2014 and 2019 I would visit 2 to 4 times a year with durations of 2 to 6 days at a time. I could live with 150/60 but 100/30 is prohibitive especially as one of the attractions for me would be to have 2, 3 or even 4 girls at a time. At E50 a pop you can also afford to experiment, have fluffer sessions, and write off and abort poor sessions etc but when I add costs of airline and hotel, I can get more pussy for the total cost staying in Dubai or London (even if E100 for 30 mins is still generally cheaper than equivalent girls in Dubai).
Unless things improve either by 30 min sessions coming down to a reasonable 70 euros or the new normal ensures good service unless you're unlucky and you actually get the full time then I can't see myself specifically travelling for a Frankfurt sex tour. I will still visit as I love the FKK scene and vibe but I think it's more likely to be a stopover trip in Frankfurt for 2-3 days when travelling between London and Dubai so I'm not paying extra for flights like I did earlier this year when I chose to have 2 days in Zurich on my way back to Dubai to sample the sex scene in Zurich.Do You know Germany is not only Hessen? Did You ever hear about NRW, also 6 ens stuck to Aachen. Even I really enjoyed my chic elegant new German at Sharks whose GFE and chic look worth 200/60 for me, but can still find many girls out of Hessen for between 40 and 65 per 30 . On Friday evening, saw best casting of the year at Freubad. Ch, far higher looks than at Globe or Sharks or Wellcum, and You have package 249 for entry, foods, drinks, wellness and 1 hour sex. Just open eyes rather than being stuck to average. London is magic city, but I won t go for paid sex, when I m fully sure Germany or Freubad remain a better game. I would go to London to fuck a real english woman when they are crazy about french.
Hyperion2007
11-20-22, 08:43
Can anyone tell me if any of the girls play with a female that I bring to the club? My wife really likes girls so she would either want to play with one solo or with me as part of a three some. Any input?I have never seen a couple in Sharks, I don't think that it's forbidden but it could be a little weird. In smaller clubs it's more frequent, I have seen it in Finca and Babylon.
I imagine that all the girls that do threesome would be open to go with you and your wife. For your information, when the girls play with each other it's an extra, in general 50€.
HammerTime96
11-20-22, 09:25
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I have not been on an FKK tour since the pandemic. .... I could live with 150/60 but 100/30 is prohibitive especially as one of the attractions for me would be to have 2, 3 or even 4 girls at a time. At E50 a pop you can also afford to experiment, have fluffer sessions, and write off and abort poor sessions etc
Unless things improve either by 30 min sessions coming down to a reasonable 70 euros or the new normal ensures good service unless you're unlucky and you actually get the full time then I can't see myself specifically travelling for a Frankfurt sex tour.One of the biggest challenges with ISG is too many seniors writing multiple reports in 2022 without having had their feet on the ground since before the pandemic, and at the same time lacking a critical view on reports of today. Try reading local forums, or visit yourself (!), and you will have a much better understanding of the scene.
- You can live with 150 E /60? Guess what, that is still the going rate among the best girls in Frankfurt despite reports by guys paying 200 E /60 or more. Although not common, 100 E /60 is STILL possible among some of the best girls. If you know the girls a bit.
- 100 E /30 is suddenly too much? Where have you been since 2017? You must have noted that good sessions for 50 E become increasingly difficult in the last 5 years (if not earlier). While I agree it was possible to get 50 E sessions in 2018- 20, the reports of shortchange of time or lack of performance in such sessions were numerous. In 2017 many Frankfurt girls started quoting 100 E /30 or 150/60 for GFE sessions, and it has now become going rates.
- If you are willing to rent a car and go to Giessen (45 mnts) or the NRW (1- 2 hrs), there are plenty of clubs with girls providing good sessions from 40- 60 E. Still. Big mistake to think that only Palace and Sharks have goodlooking girls. I also happen to believe that too few gents are trying to counteroffer 70- 80E (or ask for a genuine extra) when quoted 100E/30 by the girls at Palace/Sharks.
Cheers,
- S16.
One of the biggest challenges with ISG is too many seniors writing multiple reports in 2022 without having had their feet on the ground since before the pandemic, and at the same time lacking a critical view on reports of today. Try reading local forums, or visit yourself (!), and you will have a much better understanding of the scene.
- You can live with 150 E /60? Guess what, that is still the going rate among the best girls in Frankfurt despite reports by guys paying 200 E /60 or more. Although not common, 100 E /60 is STILL possible among some of the best girls. If you know the girls a bit.
- 100 E /30 is suddenly too much? Where have you been since 2017? You must have noted that good sessions for 50 E become increasingly difficult in the last 5 years (if not earlier). While I agree it was possible to get 50 E sessions in 2018- 20, the reports of shortchange of time or lack of performance in such sessions were numerous. In 2017 many Frankfurt girls started quoting 100 E /30 or 150/60 for GFE sessions, and it has now become going rates..I'm surprised many Germans pay so expensive asked for lower looks and quality now. On 2021, I got more than 10 good GFE rooms for 100/60 even with Daisi. De who was not my best at Sharks 2021. Except very few girls, real fall for quality on 2022, even Sofi. De was good, when coming from Rhur escorting, and wow German discovery on my last visit, when I love chic and elegance for GFE. I agree for better values for quality than Sharks in Germany on 2022.
Can anyone tell me if any of the girls play with a female that I bring to the club? My wife really likes girls so she would either want to play with one solo or with me as part of a three some. Any input?The Sharks website has an FAQ section which unless google translate is playing up suggests it isn't possible, below is what it says.
I would like to come to FKK Sharks with my wife or girlfriend and rejuvenate our love life. Is that possible?
No, unfortunately not. The ladies in Germany's largest naturist club are exclusively self-employed, commercial entrepreneurs who. Independent of FKK Sharks. Offer their services there.
The Sharks website has an FAQ section which unless google translate is playing up suggests it isn't possible, below is what it says.
I would like to come to FKK Sharks with my wife or girlfriend and rejuvenate our love life. Is that possible?
No, unfortunately not. The ladies in Germany's largest naturist club are exclusively self-employed, commercial entrepreneurs who. Independent of FKK Sharks. Offer their services there.I remember I saw, I think on 2015/2016 in garden with Dina. Hu, a guy and a woman as guests. When Sharks don t seem so full, call desk to ask. I also saw many times at World.
WaterMeltingg
11-22-22, 14:07
The Sharks website has an FAQ section which unless google translate is playing up suggests it isn't possible, below is what it says.
I would like to come to FKK Sharks with my wife or girlfriend and rejuvenate our love life. Is that possible?
No, unfortunately not. The ladies in Germany's largest naturist club are exclusively self-employed, commercial entrepreneurs who. Independent of FKK Sharks. Offer their services there.Yes, they have clearly stated in website that wife or girlfriend is not welcome. The girls working in the club has to be independent. I have personally never seen a couple in Sharks.
I have seen couples in Sharks in the past.
Call the reception, phone number is on the website.
Hyperion2007
11-23-22, 22:58
Can anyone tell me if any of the girls play with a female that I bring to the club? My wife really likes girls so she would either want to play with one solo or with me as part of a three some. Any input?I was in Sharks today and I asked the receptionist: a definitive no, a woman can't enter as a customer.
BackpackBrian
11-24-22, 02:34
I was in Sharks today and I asked the receptionist: a definitive no, a woman can't enter as a customer.Technically, yes, they can enter!
But you have to understand that if they want to come as a customer, they will have to pay the cover and register with the German gov't as a sex worker.
To give some needed information to this Sharks thread -.
In 2017 the German gov't passed the "Gummi Law", which created regulations for the sex workers:
1. Any sex worker who works in a sauna club or brothel has to register with the Gov't (for taxation purposes), so the clubs won't let you in unless you show your papers.
2. Any sexual activity requires the use of a condom. That's why it has the unofficial name "Gummi Law", this drives up prices because now BBBJ is considered illegal and a added / extra service.
3. Eliminated price controls and regulated working environments for the girls. Ex.
A. the clubs can't set a price for sex, now they only tell the girls that they "recommend" a basic price of 40 E, 50 E or 100 E, but it's only a recommendation.
Be. The clubs can't force girls to go completely nude, there are actually offices (filled with feminists) that will coach the girls that they don't have to be naked, can charge whatever they want, etc, etc.
Now, what did this do to the sauna club scene?
Well, to be honest many of the issues started when Romania entered the EU in 2008, the Romanian girls including the area of Romania that is Bulgarian brought all the low quality, bad attitude, snippy little bitches into the clubs and started pushing out the German, Polish and Czech girls as they and their pimps created an adversarial environment that was controlled more by the Eastern European pimps. Slowly the German girls left for greener pastures. The "straw that broke the camels back" was the 2017 law, because now the German, Polish, Czech, etc girls who came to the sauna clubs for extra cash for college or bills, now had to register and most respectable girls won't do that.
This ended up eliminating supply, so what you have left a couple of years later (2022) are lower quality, hardened professionals who can charge more for less service because the supply has been slowly diminished over the course of 10 years.
I read that the German gov't has to revisit this 2017 law in 2023 or maybe it expires and has to be renewed (not really sure which one) from what I remember reading, but maybe they will see it didn't have any beneficial outcome and eliminate it or now renew it. But I'm not going to hold my breath. Sadly all good things come to an end.
Can anyone tell me if any of the girls play with a female that I bring to the club? My wife really likes girls so she would either want to play with one solo or with me as part of a three some. Any input?Call FKK World north Frankfurt, if Sharks don t accept anymore.
Technically, yes, they can enter!
But you have to understand that if they want to come as a customer, they will have to pay the cover and register with the German gov't as a sex worker.
To give some needed information to this Sharks thread -.
In 2017 the German gov't passed the "Gummi Law", which created regulations for the sex workers:
1. Any sex worker who works in a sauna club or brothel has to register with the Gov't (for taxation purposes), so the clubs won't let you in unless you show your papers.
2. Any sexual activity requires the use of a condom. That's why it has the unofficial name "Gummi Law", this drives up prices because now BBBJ is considered illegal and a added / extra service.
3. Eliminated price controls and regulated working environments for the girls. Ex.
A. the clubs can't set a price for sex, now they only tell the girls that they "recommend" a basic price of 40 E, 50 E or 100 E, but it's only a recommendation.
Be. The clubs can't force girls to go completely nude, there are actually offices (filled with feminists) that will coach the girls that they don't have to be naked, can charge whatever they want, etc, etc.
Now, what did this do to the sauna club scene?
Well, to be honest many of the issues started when Romania entered the EU in 2008, the Romanian girls including the area of Romania that is Bulgarian brought all the low quality, bad attitude, snippy little bitches into the clubs and started pushing out the German, Polish and Czech girls as they and their pimps created an adversarial environment that was controlled more by the Eastern European pimps. Slowly the German girls left for greener pastures. The "straw that broke the camels back" was the 2017 law, because now the German, Polish, Czech, etc girls who came to the sauna clubs for extra cash for college or bills, now had to register and most respectable girls won't do that.
This ended up eliminating supply, so what you have left a couple of years later (2022) are lower quality, hardened professionals who can charge more for less service because the supply has been slowly diminished over the course of 10 years.
I read that the German gov't has to revisit this 2017 law in 2023 or maybe it expires and has to be renewed (not really sure which one) from what I remember reading, but maybe they will see it didn't have any beneficial outcome and eliminate it or now renew it. But I'm not going to hold my breath. Sadly all good things come to an end.I like Romanian girls but when German, Polish, Czech etc. girls were in abundance was much better.
Can anyone tell me if any of the girls play with a female that I bring to the club? My wife really likes girls so she would either want to play with one solo or with me as part of a three some. Any input?No. The only non-WGs there are the ones who work as staff members. They have a guy at the door who won't let her in.
Can anyone tell me if any of the girls play with a female that I bring to the club? My wife really likes girls so she would either want to play with one solo or with me as part of a three some. Any input?
I saw a man take his wife into Oase earlier in the year so you could try there. Worth ringing before to double check though.
Always Randy
11-24-22, 20:18
I saw a man take his wife into Oase earlier in the year so you could try there. Worth ringing before to double check though.I've seen that at Oase too a few years ago. Also I saw a guy with his girlfriend / friend in Mainhatten once. I was chatting with her while he went to the room.
Technically, yes, they can enter!
But you have to understand that if they want to come as a customer, they will have to pay the cover and register with the German gov't as a sex worker.
To give some needed information to this Sharks thread -.
In 2017 the German gov't passed the "Gummi Law", which created regulations for the sex workers:
1. Any sex worker who works in a sauna club or brothel has to register with the Gov't (for taxation purposes), so the clubs won't let you in unless you show your papers.
2. Any sexual activity requires the use of a condom. That's why it has the unofficial name "Gummi Law", this drives up prices because now BBBJ is considered illegal and a added / extra service.
3. Eliminated price controls and regulated working environments for the girls. Ex.
A. the clubs can't set a price for sex, now they only tell the girls that they "recommend" a basic price of 40 E, 50 E or 100 E, but it's only a recommendation.
Be. The clubs can't force girls to go completely nude, there are actually offices (filled with feminists) that will coach the girls that they don't have to be naked, can charge whatever they want, etc, etc.
Now, what did this do to the sauna club scene?
Well, to be honest many of the issues started when Romania entered the EU in 2008, the Romanian girls including the area of Romania that is Bulgarian brought all the low quality, bad attitude, snippy little bitches into the clubs and started pushing out the German, Polish and Czech girls as they and their pimps created an adversarial environment that was controlled more by the Eastern European pimps. Slowly the German girls left for greener pastures. The "straw that broke the camels back" was the 2017 law, because now the German, Polish, Czech, etc girls who came to the sauna clubs for extra cash for college or bills, now had to register and most respectable girls won't do that.
This ended up eliminating supply, so what you have left a couple of years later (2022) are lower quality, hardened professionals who can charge more for less service because the supply has been slowly diminished over the course of 10 years.
I read that the German gov't has to revisit this 2017 law in 2023 or maybe it expires and has to be renewed (not really sure which one) from what I remember reading, but maybe they will see it didn't have any beneficial outcome and eliminate it or now renew it. But I'm not going to hold my breath. Sadly all good things come to an end.I got many really good and very honest Romanian girls, even on this year, even their quality fall in Hessen or at Globe, but other places where can still find good ones. 2022 is my German year with 5 German girls with 3 at Sharks.
Technically, yes, they can enter!
But you have to understand that if they want to come as a customer, they will have to pay the cover and register with the German gov't as a sex worker.
A woman who enters an FKK club as a guest / customer doesn't need to register.
The problem with visiting EU countries this winter is gas supply disruption from Russia. I remember I read news in Germany for instance the authority will allow the public office to set the indoor temperature of 19 Degrees.
This is public office that should get priority of energy supply let alone accommodation, hotels, etc. What about party venues, night clubs, FKKs.
These venues will need a huge amount of Electricity and Gas. It is ranging from gas to heat to water, (hot shower, tea / coffee machines), sauna, steam-room, spaces (rooms) heating with such huge amount of spaces. In FKK, RTC especially, as the people are half naked. People could not comfortably stand with room temperature of around 19 degrees.
What is your opinion? Is the gas, energy supply still a concern in Europe during winter this time ?
There is plenty of gas in Europe, prices are decreasing.
Business as usual.
TankTank123
11-26-22, 03:08
This is public office that should get priority of energy supply let alone accommodation, hotels, etc. What about party venues, night clubs, FKKs.Temperature ceiling was imposed on public buildings and facilities as taxpayers are paying the bill. Private buildings were left alone as they are subject to market forces and could thus make their own calculations on how they would cope with the price increase. Anyway, it was reported that Germany had achieved 100% stocks in their storage facilities and would have no supply problems this winter.
Both Sharks and World were warm last week and this week. (Even though it was snowing outside World with its garden totally white). But one girl in World told me that she was going back to Romania next week, earlier than planned, as the heating bill of her apartment has almost doubled. Another girl in Sharks told me that she was not staying over Christmas and New Year Day as she used to in past years, also because she cannot afford her heating bill. So, the energy supply problem might have impact on the number of girls present.
Temperature ceiling was imposed on public buildings and facilities as taxpayers are paying the bill. Private buildings were left alone as they are subject to market forces and could thus make their own calculations on how they would cope with the price increase. Anyway, it was reported that Germany had achieved 100% stocks in their storage facilities and would have no supply problems this winter.
Both Sharks and World were warm last week and this week. (Even though it was snowing outside World with its garden totally white). But one girl in World told me that she was going back to Romania next week, earlier than planned, as the heating bill of her apartment has almost doubled. Another girl in Sharks told me that she was not staying over Christmas and New Year Day as she used to in past years, also because she cannot afford her heating bill. So, the energy supply problem might have impact on the number of girls present.Many girls sleep at Sharks.
For fans, Baltic Anjelika is on business. I did't see lovely Marina. Lat. On this Saturday, large quantity but low quality casting for me, many girls with almost no business and some now needing to hunt to find business. Still hot water and I ate many pastas and melon, still thinking to climb both Ventoux. Unfortunately, no chic elegant German for who I drove. I would be so happy to enjoy her again when so far higher level than elegant pretty but really not GFE but just for suck and fuck, too expensive 100/30 , full natural Kity. Ro with 0 tattoo.
Can confirm plenty of hot waters, nice showers and zimmer heat at Sharks November 2022. And sharks roster have lots to choose, and no wait for rooms at all on weekend compare to better times before pandemic.
150460 accepted, and maybe you can negotiate even better. But don't let girl cheat you into 200460. With so much inflations and weak Euro currency this year, even 150460 is already overprice and have driven many customer away. That is why waiting 15 minutes for zimmer at sharks on Friday und Saturday nights like 2018 is never happen again. A lot of men now can no longer afford enjoy FKK as often or at all with the unrealistic price girls wishing for.
Top girls? For looks I have enjoy aesthetic like ex-Sharks Viol (etta), natural athletic taller build with elegant nordic hints. Like you my friend Sirioja I'm jajaja when I see short duckling walk drag the butt on ground.
For services, I think best services ever ex-Sharks was Inca. Inka? Ex-Sharks Janine reincarnate. Lots of beautiful oral variation, and she gift many special hip movement for each positions (even while she laying flat during normal) during better days of 100460. Inca was complete opposite of and antidote for dead fish sex my ex-wife give.
But alas I never lucky enough met a girl with both Viol's look aesthetic plus Inca's talent.
Who are your top girls? ....
WaterMeltingg
11-29-22, 15:20
I like Romanian girls but when German, Polish, Czech etc. girls were in abundance was much better.I have had some amazing experiences with Czech and Polish girls. I find them not only more beautiful and hotter but also their service was up to the notch. Finally I depends on the girl but most of the girls I had from Czech were damn good in bed.
Top girls? For looks I have enjoy aesthetic like ex-Sharks Viol (etta), natural athletic taller build with elegant nordic hints. Like you my friend Sirioja I'm jajaja when I see short duckling walk drag the butt on ground.
For services, I think best services ever ex-Sharks was Inca. Inka? Ex-Sharks Janine reincarnate. Lots of beautiful oral variation, and she gift many special hip movement for each positions (even while she laying flat during normal) during better days of 100460. Inca was complete opposite of and antidote for dead fish sex my ex-wife give.
But alas I never lucky enough met a girl with both Viol's look aesthetic plus Inca's talent.Don't remember a wow look Violetta at Sharks, but only visited around 10 times on 2022, when had better other clubs. I saw Viorica playing on lounge entry table on this Saturday. Was Inca short, sitting at bottom of stairs to room? I saw so many girls almost without business on this Saturday, even the very few pretties. When I remember how Katalea was on highest Globe level when she arrived and now needing to hunt to find business for fast 15 minutes rooms, when I remember quality of our twice 1 hour on my visits, I m sad to see her fall. Sharks girls are succeeding to fuck their own business, asking so expensive for low quality when much higher quality on 2021 . As I told another french, I don't even rank Sharks in my top 3 on 2022 in Germany for value for money and casting quality. I advice lovely Alina and Sabina, both blond, sitting between ex kino and stairs to jacuzzis close to TV screen. On my around 10 visits, only Sofi. De and chic elegant German worth to repeat.
BackpackBrian
11-30-22, 02:21
Can confirm plenty of hot waters, nice showers and zimmer heat at Sharks November 2022. And sharks roster have lots to choose, and no wait for rooms at all on weekend compare to better times before pandemic.
150460 accepted, and maybe you can negotiate even better. But don't let girl cheat you into 200460. With so much inflations and weak Euro currency this year, even 150460 is already overprice and have driven many customer away. That is why waiting 15 minutes for zimmer at sharks on Friday und Saturday nights like 2018 is never happen again. A lot of men now can no longer afford enjoy FKK as often or at all with the unrealistic price girls wishing for.I was at Sharks mid October and mid November and if you arrive early in the day (2-4 PM) there are lots of girls that will charge 50430 for BBBJ and CFS, you will just have to ask around.
Disclaimer. As the hours pass and the evening girls arrive with men getting off work and the club getting busier, it will be harder to find 430 sessions as demand increases.
I would say on the days I visited Sharks, amongst all the other clubs I visited, 1/3 of my sessions I had at Sharks were 430 w / BBBJ + CFS.
WaterMeltingg
11-30-22, 12:53
Technically, yes, they can enter!
But you have to understand that if they want to come as a customer, they will have to pay the cover and register with the German gov't as a sex worker.
To give some needed information to this Sharks thread -.
In 2017 the German gov't passed the "Gummi Law", which created regulations for the sex workers:
1. Any sex worker who works in a sauna club or brothel has to register with the Gov't (for taxation purposes), so the clubs won't let you in unless you show your papers.
2. Any sexual activity requires the use of a condom. That's why it has the unofficial name "Gummi Law", this drives up prices because now BBBJ is considered illegal and a added / extra service.
3. Eliminated price controls and regulated working environments for the girls. Ex.
A. the clubs can't set a price for sex, now they only tell the girls that they "recommend" a basic price of 40 E, 50 E or 100 E, but it's only a recommendation.
Be. The clubs can't force girls to go completely nude, there are actually offices (filled with feminists) that will coach the girls that they don't have to be naked, can charge whatever they want, etc, etc.
Now, what did this do to the sauna club scene?
Well, to be honest many of the issues started when Romania entered the EU in 2008, the Romanian girls including the area of Romania that is Bulgarian brought all the low quality, bad attitude, snippy little bitches into the clubs and started pushing out the German, Polish and Czech girls as they and their pimps created an adversarial environment that was controlled more by the Eastern European pimps. Slowly the German girls left for greener pastures. The "straw that broke the camels back" was the 2017 law, because now the German, Polish, Czech, etc girls who came to the sauna clubs for extra cash for college or bills, now had to register and most respectable girls won't do that.
This ended up eliminating supply, so what you have left a couple of years later (2022) are lower quality, hardened professionals who can charge more for less service because the supply has been slowly diminished over the course of 10 years.
I read that the German gov't has to revisit this 2017 law in 2023 or maybe it expires and has to be renewed (not really sure which one) from what I remember reading, but maybe they will see it didn't have any beneficial outcome and eliminate it or now renew it. But I'm not going to hold my breath. Sadly all good things come to an end.After reading your post it feels like, I missed the golden years of mongering at FKK Clubs. I have been active since few years. I've always seen German, Polish or Czech girls in minority. Personally I get more interested in girls if they come from one of these countries. Earlier I thought, reason for that might be, they are not available in abundance.
But I must say, some of them have provided best service, I have had in my mongering career. And of course they look quite hot and different than romanian girls. Not to say, some of romanian girls are also damn beautiful. But when it comes to service they are not all the same.
Some romanian girls are well mannered and polite and deliver super service, whereas many of them are a rip off. They team up with other girls, and their sole goal is to get money out of customer without doing anything. Some of them doesn't really know how to behave with a customer. They bully and shout at customer. I have witnessed it at Sharks. Not sure if they are from particular region in Romania. This behaviour from a group bad girls, damages whole community coming from that country.
Hyperion2007
11-30-22, 17:09
I would say on the days I visited Sharks, amongst all the other clubs I visited, 1/3 of my sessions I had at Sharks were 430 w / BBBJ + CFS.The best thing to do is to name those girls so they are rewarded with more customers!
I was at Sharks mid October and mid November and if you arrive early in the day (2-4 PM) there are lots of girls that will charge 50430 for BBBJ and CFS, you will just have to ask around.
Disclaimer. As the hours pass and the evening girls arrive with men getting off work and the club getting busier, it will be harder to find 430 sessions as demand increases.
I would say on the days I visited Sharks, amongst all the other clubs I visited, 1/3 of my sessions I had at Sharks were 430 w / BBBJ + CFS.On this Saturday, from 4 pm to 3 am, slow business, many girls without business, but I didn't see many I would spend 50 for. When I find a beauty like Kity, 0 GFE, low level for sex, I could fuck her whole night, I would never finish.
I was in shakers in September (I have a full review that I wrote here after the trip).
I ask them nicely for 50 eru, and they told me it's will be 15 min, and I agree, but not all of them agreed to 50 eru.
We need to stand up hard against raising prices and not pay this amount of money.
Even ugly fat girls asking for 100 eru, wtf!?
We should not give a hand to that! Stop paying 100 eru and get shit.
The red light district in Frankfurt has hot girls asking for 30 eru.
Today in FKK the Norma is 50 for 10 min LOL.
I miss the time before corona and before 2017 when the girls asked 50 for a full 30 min and they were hot.
Please don't give a hand for it, let's change it, we have the power!
After reading your post it feels like, I missed the golden years of mongering at FKK Clubs. I have been active since few years. I've always seen German, Polish or Czech girls in minority. Personally I get more interested in girls if they come from one of these countries. Earlier I thought, reason for that might be, they are not available in abundance.As a general rule what I've seen, is the more a country becomes developed, the less WGs are available from said country.
I would also agree with your assessment that I've had excellent service from Germans, while Romanians / Moldavians / eastern European can be hit or miss. And I do believe I missed the golden years as well where there were more polish, Czech, etc. around and for get cheaper prices.
As a general rule what I've seen, is the more a country becomes developed, the less WGs are available from said country.
I would also agree with your assessment that I've had excellent service from Germans, while Romanians / Moldavians / eastern European can be hit or miss. And I do believe I missed the golden years as well where there were more polish, Czech, etc. around and for get cheaper prices.5 Germans on not finished yet 2022 for me. 2 really top level. 0 with silicon.
Smoke Light
12-02-22, 02:23
Amir your majesty, thank you for the post. I can add this: most young turkish boys in Samya pay girls only 50 or don't go. Yes, 10-20 minutes is the time expected on both sides of the transaction. The girls go with them without much dispute, (a) because the boys are regulars or semi-regulars and (b) because on slow nights (no messe, no tourists) they are the customer majority and (c) room straightforwardness CBJ suck and fuck in a couple of positions. May not be kind of service for everyone, but my respect to young guys in Samya. They already doing firmly what you are addressing here.
I was in shakers in September (I have a full review that I wrote here after the trip).
I ask them nicely for 50 eru, and they told me it's will be 15 min, and I agree, but not all of them agreed to 50 eru.
We need to stand up hard against raising prices and not pay this amount of money.
Even ugly fat girls asking for 100 eru, wtf!?
We should not give a hand to that! Stop paying 100 eru and get shit.
The red light district in Frankfurt has hot girls asking for 30 eru.
Today in FKK the Norma is 50 for 10 min LOL.
I miss the time before corona and before 2017 when the girls asked 50 for a full 30 min and they were hot.
Please don't give a hand for it, let's change it, we have the power!I wish this was true, but ultimately I think this would be bad advise to anyone who wants to visit sharks for the first time or anyone who has not been since reopening. The simple fact of the matter is that 100 EUR for 30 with BBJ is now the new price floor, and that dynamics of this tourist club in particular is not conducive for negotiation below that. Most the of the attractive women have plenty of customers waiting for them at this price on any given day and it would be a real buzz kill to spend the day hunting down and attempting to undercut their expected price, all for a 15 minute quickie if that was even possible. More likely, this tactic would be a sure fire way for word about you to spread around the club and you will all of a sudden find yourself being ignored. I don't mean to paint a bleak picture. Sharks still has its merits as a super club with good facilities and plenty of women, which is relatively unmatched across EU at the moment. But, I don't think we should set expectations that much fun will be had if you are on a budget below 100 EUR per session. Now, if you are willing to shell out 150 EUR for per session then I think Sharks is just as fun it was in its hay day and still competes for best venue world-wide.
Hyperion2007
12-02-22, 07:03
More likely, this tactic would be a sure fire way for word about you to spread around the club and you will all of a sudden find yourself being ignored.And more importantly, it will result in precisely what he had: bad rooms with bored women who accepted to go only for him to stop bothering them.
The funniest is that he paid 50€ for 15 minutes rooms with no blowjob. And some praised him when he posted it's report in September, hilarious.
I wish this was true, but ultimately I think this would be bad advise to anyone who wants to visit sharks for the first time or anyone who has not been since reopening. The simple fact of the matter is that 100 EUR for 30 with BBJ is now the new price floor, and that dynamics of this tourist club in particular is not conducive for negotiation below that. Most the of the attractive women have plenty of customers waiting for them at this price on any given day and it would be a real buzz kill to spend the day hunting down and attempting to undercut their expected price, all for a 15 minute quickie if that was even possible. More likely, this tactic would be a sure fire way for word about you to spread around the club and you will all of a sudden find yourself being ignored. I don't mean to paint a bleak picture. Sharks still has its merits as a super club with good facilities and plenty of women, which is relatively unmatched across EU at the moment. But, I don't think we should set expectations that much fun will be had if you are on a budget below 100 EUR per session. Now, if you are willing to shell out 150 EUR for per session then I think Sharks is just as fun it was in its hay day and still competes for best venue world-wide.Sharks is really not at best for looks with only very few pretties: Kity, Katalea, Teodora, and most not even french kissing for 100/30 . My advice: don t pay extra for FK when You will receive little girl kisses. Bad value for most girls. Better value elsewhere in Germany in NRW or 6 ens stuck to Aachen. On last Saturday, I witnessed slow business and pretties really not busy, one needing to hunt now. But hot water was working.
I wish this was true, but ultimately I think this would be bad advise to anyone who wants to visit sharks for the first time or anyone who has not been since reopening. The simple fact of the matter is that 100 EUR for 30 with BBJ is now the new price floor, and that dynamics of this tourist club in particular is not conducive for negotiation below that. Most the of the attractive women have plenty of customers waiting for them at this price on any given day and it would be a real buzz kill to spend the day hunting down and attempting to undercut their expected price, all for a 15 minute quickie if that was even possible. More likely, this tactic would be a sure fire way for word about you to spread around the club and you will all of a sudden find yourself being ignored. I don't mean to paint a bleak picture. Sharks still has its merits as a super club with good facilities and plenty of women, which is relatively unmatched across EU at the moment. But, I don't think we should set expectations that much fun will be had if you are on a budget below 100 EUR per session. Now, if you are willing to shell out 150 EUR for per session then I think Sharks is just as fun it was in its hay day and still competes for best venue world-wide.My sentiments exactly. This has been much discussed in several threads recently. As I have said before it's not unreasonable for prices to increase, let's face it 50 Eu was a steal before. A lot of contributors point out the 100% increase and I get where they are coming from, I'd agree that 70/80 for 30 minutes and 120/130 for 60 minutes would be better but we just have to either accept it or as a point of principle not even attend. But as has been said, there is more than enough customers willing to pay 100/30 to keep the girls happy. As for bartering a trade-off for time, really? Do you want to look cheap for such a small amount of money? No doubt in ten years or so time we will be having the same convos when it goes to 150/30.
I can pay 150/60 for a GFE really kissing, natural beauty, I even paid 200/60 for chic elegant who was wow in bed, I paid 200 because we don t see many like her in whole FKK land, not any at Globe where I would have paid 300/60 for lower quality. But my problem is huge increasing for rate when fall for quality, when Kity, Bibi are low level for sex and not many looks worth I pay for. Same like at Globe, more expensive for lower quality than on 2021. If I mistook Barbi with Bibi, my big apologize to Barbi, when I was meaning Bibi who wanted 200/60 but not able to kiss. Only Sofi. De and chic elegant German worthing to repeat on this year. No repeat at Globe among 6/7 girls, when I repeated many times at Freubad with 3, my best club on 2022.
More importantly, it will result in what he had: bad rooms with bored women who accepted to go only for him to stop bothering them.
The funniest is that he paid 50 for 15 minutes rooms with no blowjob. And some praised him when he posted its report in September, hilarious.I do not get enjoy blowjobs anyway.
For me, 15 min was ok and enough, maybe other people need more time and it's fine.
I fucked hot girls for 50, and they didn't try to hurry me to finish, but only 2 girls were a real fail, but Attitude does not matter if it is 50 or 100.
I probably won't go there anymore because it's a little hard to convince the girls to 50, it was an experience, but it's a shame it's not like before the Corona and before 2017.
I do not get enjoy blowjobs anyway.
For me, 15 min was ok and enough, maybe other people need more time and it's fine.
I fucked hot girls for 50, and they didn't try to hurry me to finish, but only 2 girls were a real fail, but Attitude does not matter if it is 50 or 100.
I probably won't go there anymore because it's a little hard to convince the girls to 50, it was an experience, but it's a shame it's not like before the Corona and before 2017.I was told about this on last night, Turkish asking for 50/10 when they don t need more than 10 minutes, fucking hard to finish fast according to culture. Other funny stories, each one own tastes for sex. After chic elegant German, maybe she didn t like Sharks business when not seen anymore and nobody seem to know her, after my run from NL border, I preferred french quality girl, what a natural beauty with no tattoo, pear shape naturals, for my short visit wishing to find her. Just perfect when I prefer quality, for 200/60 when none on her level at Globe. Same like for chic German, I just wish I can repeat such rare look and quality. If Sharks girls quality is very average for me on average on 2022 , and again not high busy business for second Saturday evening, many girls waiting for business, but at least I could find 3 high level girls with Sofi coming from Rhur escorting, but chic elegant is prettier and deeper GFE and french is much prettier and fresh in mind. For high level sex, I advice Sena also full natural and she is now my friend forever. Zoe. De moved from NRW. Hotel Contel is open. After Goldengate I really like but only around 10 girls on a Saturday until 6. 30 pm, when forrest call wolves, autobahns called me and all went perfect on this short visit arriving at 9. 30 pm, quality with pastas and even melon and strawberries cake. 265 .
WaterMeltingg
12-04-22, 21:57
I was in shakers in September (I have a full review that I wrote here after the trip).
I ask them nicely for 50 eru, and they told me it's will be 15 min, and I agree, but not all of them agreed to 50 eru.
We need to stand up hard against raising prices and not pay this amount of money.
Even ugly fat girls asking for 100 eru, wtf!?
We should not give a hand to that! Stop paying 100 eru and get shit.
The red light district in Frankfurt has hot girls asking for 30 eru.
Today in FKK the Norma is 50 for 10 min LOL.
I miss the time before corona and before 2017 when the girls asked 50 for a full 30 min and they were hot.
Please don't give a hand for it, let's change it, we have the power!Most of the girls in sharks are not worth 100 Euros, what they are currently demanding. Problem is not everyone negotiates hard with girls. They always find a few clients, who would pay them higher prices. If we all mongers draw a hard line on 50 Euros, prices would definitely come down. But that seems impossible.
BTW if you just want to have a quick fun in 50 Euros. RLD is also an option. They offer 20 min of fun. Some of the girls provide decent service in that price range. Again it's a hit or miss. You can also save on entry fees of club. Of course, the ambience is not the same and you can't pick girls while sitting on the couch and enjoying a beer. Sometimes I prefer going to FKK clubs, just for eating and watching naked beauties. I will take sauna 3 or 4 times. And some beers. Girls are pissed off with this kind of guests, who don't go to room at all. Who cares.
Most of the girls in sharks are not worth 100 Euros, what they are currently demanding. Problem is not everyone negotiates hard with girls. They always find a few clients, who would pay them higher prices. If we all mongers draw a hard line on 50 Euros, prices would definitely come down. But that seems impossible.
BTW if you just want to have a quick fun in 50 Euros. RLD is also an option. They offer 20 min of fun. Some of the girls provide decent service in that price range. Again it's a hit or miss. You can also save on entry fees of club. Of course, the ambience is not the same and you can't pick girls while sitting on the couch and enjoying a beer. Sometimes I prefer going to FKK clubs, just for eating and watching naked beauties. I will take sauna 3 or 4 times. And some beers. Girls are pissed off with this kind of guests, who don't go to room at all. Who cares.I agree most = 95% of Sharks girls don t worth 100 per 30 minutes for their look or level in bed. Again slow business on this Saturday evening like on previous, many girls waiting, when they are not able to understand many guys can t afford anymore their too expensive rate, as I explained my wow discovery. Fortunately for some girls, few Asians before turkish night at 2 am with almost no more business else than bottles and asking for 50 for 10 minutes with hard fucking to finish fast.
Most of the girls in sharks are not worth 100 Euros, what they are currently demanding. Problem is not everyone negotiates hard with girls. They always find a few clients, who would pay them higher prices. If we all mongers draw a hard line on 50 Euros, prices would definitely come down. But that seems impossible.....From my research the problem seems to be that it is not just a few men paying 100/30, it seems that that is the norm now. Now when a girl is accustomed getting 100/30 what sort of service do you think she'll give for 50/30? Not service that I'll want. Unfortunately that appears to be the reality on the ground now.
From my research the problem seems to be that it is not just a few men paying 100/30, it seems that that is the norm now. Now when a girl is accustomed getting 100/30 what sort of service do you think she'll give for 50/30? Not service that I'll want. Unfortunately that appears to be the reality on the ground now.And it all started with that damn condom law and these greedy tutes recognizing that they could leverage that to get more money! Another 20 euros maybe OK, but a 100% increase for a 30 minute session is just highway robbery! The only way to stop it is to not pay it.
From my research the problem seems to be that it is not just a few men paying 100/30, it seems that that is the norm now. Now when a girl is accustomed getting 100/30 what sort of service do you think she'll give for 50/30? Not service that I'll want. Unfortunately that appears to be the reality on the ground now.But fact seen when visiting is big quantity of girls but slow business, even for prettiest, Melissa not busy on this Saturday evening, Katalea needed to hunt on previous, fortunately for Kity, Asians. Seen on 2 last saturdays.
Smoke Light
12-06-22, 00:10
And it all started with that damn condom law and these greedy tutes recognizing that they could leverage that to get more money! Another 20 euros maybe OK, but a 100% increase for a 30 minute session is just highway robbery! The only way to stop it is to not pay it.If tourists behaved like locals prices would go down.
BackpackBrian
12-06-22, 02:43
And it all started with that damn condom law and these greedy tutes recognizing that they could leverage that to get more money! Another 20 euros maybe OK, but a 100% increase for a 30 minute session is just highway robbery! The only way to stop it is to not pay it.Most don't know that the 2017 law, in addition to "requiring" condoms, also eliminated price controls by the clubs. Before the law the clubs could regulate the prices (ex. All basic service with BBBJ + CFS) was 50 Euro for 30 minutes. But now the clubs can't do that, so they "recommend" the girls charge a certain amount. But the feminists working in the fem-nazi consulting offices tell these working girls they can charge whatever they want! Oh and they don't have to be naked if they are uncomfortable with it. That's why I see more and more clubs (ex. FKK Oceans, Prime) with girls wearing street clothes, while I'm sitting around like a ******* wearing a bathrobe.
I remember back in the day, and not too long before COVID, FKK Palace and a few other clubs had laminated 8 x11 cards with pictures and prices for all the foreigners who didn't speak English or German. So when you arrived and were asked if you had been there before and you said no "it's my first time" the girl behind the register showed you this picture card.
If tourists behaved like locals prices would go down.Don't blame tourists. Almost all the locals in the club now pay the new price and MANY of them even pay a much higher exaggerating price to their regular loving girl. Those who don't want to pay that much just don't go to room or don't come to the club anymore.
Most don't know that the 2017 law, in addition to "requiring" condoms, also eliminated price controls by the clubs. Before the law the clubs could regulate the prices (ex. All basic service with BBBJ + CFS) was 50 Euro for 30 minutes. But now the clubs can't do that, so they "recommend" the girls charge a certain amount. But the feminists working in the fem-nazi consulting offices tell these working girls they can charge whatever they want! Oh and they don't have to be naked if they are uncomfortable with it. That's why I see more and more clubs (ex. FKK Oceans, Prime) with girls wearing street clothes, while I'm sitting around like a ******* wearing a bathrobe.
I remember back in the day, and not too long before COVID, FKK Palace and a few other clubs had laminated 8 x11 cards with pictures and prices for all the foreigners who didn't speak English or German. So when you arrived and were asked if you had been there before and you said no "it's my first time" the girl behind the register showed you this picture card.Make Germany Great Again.
Don't blame tourists. Almost all the locals in the club now pay the new price and MANY of them even pay a much higher exaggerating price to their regular loving girl. Those who don't want to pay that much just don't go to room or don't come to the club anymore.I can afford to pay 100/30 or 200/60 or even a more exaggerated price but I believe in paying (for whatever item) a fair amount. I never travel first class because I believe the cost to be too high for what is being offered compared to the experience and cost of economy. Same with girls; from my experience some FKK girls are worth 100/50 but not all. Also the increase from 50 to 100 is too much. If the current price was 75/30 or 150/60 I would indulge but I am uncomfortable paying 100/30 or 200/60.
I can afford to pay 100/30 or 200/60 or even a more exaggerated price but I believe in paying (for whatever item) a fair amount. I never travel first class because I believe the cost to be too high for what is being offered compared to the experience and cost of economy. Same with girls; from my experience some FKK girls are worth 100/50 but not all. Also the increase from 50 to 100 is too much. If the current price was 75/30 or 150/60 I would indulge but I am uncomfortable paying 100/30 or 200/60.I won t pay even only 50 for most Sharks girls, but I found 2 who really did worth 200/ +60 when they are on higher level for look and GFE than my girls at Globe on 2022 . When I was not educated in a kolkhoze, even I love Russia but hate Putin, all girls don t worth same rate for me. GFE elegant natural beauties will always be less expensive for me than average looks. Mostly average looks at Sharks, but I found 1 high level and 2 wow level on few last weeks. Improving.
Most don't know that the 2017 law, in addition to "requiring" condoms, also eliminated price controls by the clubs. Before the law the clubs could regulate the prices (ex. All basic service with BBBJ + CFS) was 50 Euro for 30 minutes. But now the clubs can't do that, so they "recommend" the girls charge a certain amount. But the feminists working in the fem-nazi consulting offices tell these working girls they can charge whatever they want! Oh and they don't have to be naked if they are uncomfortable with it. That's why I see more and more clubs (ex. FKK Oceans, Prime) with girls wearing street clothes, while I'm sitting around like a ******* wearing a bathrobe.
I remember back in the day, and not too long before COVID, FKK Palace and a few other clubs had laminated 8 x11 cards with pictures and prices for all the foreigners who didn't speak English or German. So when you arrived and were asked if you had been there before and you said no "it's my first time" the girl behind the register showed you this picture card.On 2021 at Sharks, I had many GFE with real FK and DATY, BBBJ, 1 hour rooms and on this Sunday for 150/80 at Mainhattan with my best 2021 Sharks girl. But on 2021 , almost no Asians nor US. 2022 is much more expensive, so I only go for high quality for look and GFE. After law, I still got FK, DATY and BBBJ very standard in Germany. Many too expensive for their value girls have slow business now at Sharks, but they prefer to wait sitting. I advice Alina, Sabina, Roxana, Roxy and of course Sena sitting on left of stairs to jacuzzis.
Don't blame tourists. Almost all the locals in the club now pay the new price and MANY of them even pay a much higher exaggerating price to their regular loving girl. Those who don't want to pay that much just don't go to room or don't come to the club anymore.I m also surprised Germans pay so expensive for some very average looks, not at all supermodels. On the other hand, Turkish ask for 50/10 when they want to finish like rabbits. Matter of culture about sexuality.
If tourists behaved like locals prices would go down.I would agree with this statement if there was busloads of tourists arriving like they were pre-pandemic.
The problem is mongers (local, fly-in, drive-in) who put the WG on a pedestal and obsess over her, serial repeating her at the higher rate. Just because she is a 10-optic, does not mean she should automatically earn thousands of EUR off of you. She should earn it by developing the customer relationship over time. Some of the mongers would probably miss being by their own mother's deathbed just so they could race to the club to see the beauty that they just met a week ago. Not only that, said monger would probably even tell the WG that they left their own mother's deathbed to prove their "devotion" to her. That is the lack of social awareness (he probably thinks of this as the most romantic gesture ever, she thinks he is a SIMP and someone she can easily wrap around her finger).
If you attend regularly and you have the deep pockets, then you are the prize, stop making the girl the prize. Even if regulars want to try a girl one time for 200/60, no problem. Get that top optic out of your system. But stand your ground to negotiate a better deal next time. Or at least 200 for first hour, 100 for each subsequent hour. If she really values as a good client or "amazing lover" or whatever else you wish to believe, she wouldn't be extorting you for higher than the standard rate.
WGs will blacklist for other reasons (and often that is only temporary). WGs usually will not blacklist over price negotiation. Ofc, there is a difference between negotiating a ten minute room for 30 EUR, and say a 6 hour room for 600 EUR. The former may actually get you blacklisted, the latter connotes you are willing to spend, if the terms of the deal are to your favor. Looking "cheap" is not a concern to me with a 20 yo WG I just met. She can tell all her friends for all I care. WGs know that a customer can be cheap with some WGs and quite giving to others. I have seen it myself.
Note this does not apply to non-regulars. Some tourists come 3-4 days per year. I also know a married local, but he only attends when his wife is out-of-town. For these guys who are limited on time, it makes more sense to overpay just to ensure they have a good time. These types of mongers would never waste their time reading a monger forum!
On 2021 at Sharks, I had many GFE with real FK and DATY, BBBJ, 1 hour rooms and on this Sunday for 150/80 at Mainhattan with my best 2021 Sharks girl. But on 2021 , almost no Asians nor US. 2022 is much more expensive, so I only go for high quality for look and GFE. After law, I still got FK, DATY and BBBJ very standard in Germany. Many too expensive for their value girls have slow business now at Sharks, but they prefer to wait sitting. I advice Alina, Sabina, Roxana, Roxy and of course Sena sitting on left of stairs to jacuzzis.My many GFE 1 hour rooms for 100/60 on 2021, only paying 150/60 for Katalea when she was fresh. On 2022, I prefer to pay 200/60 or a bit longer for wow looks and GFE rather than 100/30 for average looks not kissing. Quality worth more expensive for me, when I hate to waste for average.
Make Germany Great Again.They are really down for manschaft with so slow bad Rudiger, so far below Karl Heinz Forster or Schwarzenbeck. But Germany is still great playfield to find wow girls and to play on autobahns of course.
HammerTime96
12-09-22, 09:58
If tourists behaved like locals prices would go down.Spot on!
Just because there aren't busses with the word "TOURIST" on them parked in front, doesn't mean that Sharks isn't full with tourists, don't let the CIA psyop boy or the French clown tell you otherwise.
I was in Sharks recently and a large group of heavily tattooed Ukrainians (3 expensive cars with Ukrainian plates parked in front) were acting like a total bunch of SBU pigs, throwing money around (you know, your tax money that is paying for the Ukrainian proxy war), hard to miss, unless you're an American who doesn't know the difference between German and Ukrainian. Dieter kicked them out of the sauna because these uncultured pigs were wearing their dirty underwear inside the sauna because they were afraid that people will see their tiny dick. LOL! (now there is finally a big banner above the entrance reminding people to use a towel and take off their underwear).
Don't blame tourists. Almost all the locals in the club now pay the new price and MANY of them even pay a much higher exaggerating price to their regular loving girl. Those who don't want to pay that much just don't go to room or don't come to the club anymore.Most locals are forced to pay these prices now after resisting for many years, it all started 5-6 years ago with the stupid tourists acting like simps with their excessive tipping. Mainland Europeans barely tip, so again, it's a typically dumb tourists thing.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Simp
Complaining about the prices will not help bring them down, actually they have been long time 100/30 so i lost hope the price will go down again in Sharks.
So accept it and pay or go to cheaper places like Aca Gold near dusseldorf.
I think 50/30 in Sharks will not return.
Spot on!
Just because there aren't busses with the word "TOURIST" on them parked in front, doesn't mean that Sharks isn't full with tourists, don't let the CIA psyop boy or the French clown tell you otherwise.
I was in Sharks recently and a large group of heavily tattooed Ukrainians (3 expensive cars with Ukrainian plates parked in front) were acting like a total bunch of SBU pigs, throwing money around (you know, your tax money that is paying for the Ukrainian proxy war), hard to miss, unless you're an American who doesn't know the difference between German and Ukrainian. Dieter kicked them out of the sauna because these uncultured pigs were wearing their dirty underwear inside the sauna because they were afraid that people will see their tiny dick. LOL! (now there is finally a big banner above the entrance reminding people to use a towel and take off their underwear).
Most locals are forced to pay these prices now after resisting for many years, it all started 5-6 years ago with the stupid tourists acting like simps with their excessive tipping. Mainland Europeans barely tip, so again, it's a typically dumb tourists thing.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=SimpIt's always an American's fault. Even when a Ukrainian wears his skid marked stained drawers inside of the sauna somehow an American is implicated. And if it isn't an American, then it's an "Asian". Well you darn well better hope somebody helps Ukraine against the Ruskies. Because the next time? It could be you. And don't act like it hasn't happened before. If it happened once, then it can happen again. You'll recall the Iron Curtain. We'll see how you like us then! Besides, as has been said many times before, tourists in general and Americans in particular don't drive up prices. You give thanks to meddling German politicos for doing that. Then curse European mongers who are over there everyday spending money and giving in by paying what a bunch of shortsighted, greedy prostitutes demand of them. Now that's where the blame truly belongs! Among the Europeans themselves. They should stop pointing the finger as four are pointing back at them!
Complaining about the prices will not help bring them down, actually they have been long time 100/30 so i lost hope the price will go down again in Sharks.
So accept it and pay or go to cheaper places like Aca Gold near dusseldorf.
I think 50/30 in Sharks will not return.Maybe Roxy for 100/60 ? Maybe also Sena if she likes You. Many Asians on last night. Party with proseco, I didn't see very special foods when I arrived at 9. 30 pm after 2 hours in traffic to leave Paris. When I often criticized looks level on this year, real improvement with my 2 wow girls of end of the year and new Viki. 2 hours of pleasure with french hands made, 1,78 for 55 kgs with masterpiece naturals, lovely behavior, magic with her, and was so happy to find again my chic elegant German even different hair, really wish to repeat as I told her. Would be easier if I was a better hunter and less exhausted when my day started at 5 am, so at midnight, after 2 french hours, but really wish on a next time. Too complicated when 2 wow girls.
Escape Artist
12-10-22, 13:26
I remember in 2021 there were very few visitors who were not from Germany. By 2022 I noticed an influx of mongers from neighboring countries. Groups of French mongers coming in every weekend booking girls for hours. This seems to be a major reason why the girls are charging these stupid prices. Neighboring French mongers where prostitution is illegal coming to Germany in droves every weekend fucking it up.
SobeLizard
12-10-22, 23:25
I remember in 2021 there were very few visitors who were not from Germany. By 2022 I noticed an influx of mongers from neighboring countries. Groups of French mongers coming in every weekend booking girls for hours. This seems to be a major reason why the girls are charging these stupid prices. Neighboring French mongers where prostitution is illegal coming to Germany in droves every weekend fucking it up.French go room just to talk politics. They are all fat guys and I'll stick a nail in their tire so they have to walk back to Strasbourg.
PlentyOfTime
12-10-22, 23:51
Does anyone know what is planned for Silvester / New Years Eve 2022? Usually a special party. With increased entrance fee! - is advertised with potential firework display, champagne, stage shows etc. I've received no response to my email query to club. Has anyone heard if girls from other clubs are lined up for Silvester 2022 in Sharks?
Presuming vast majority are totally nude at this party? Refuse to pay 100 E for 30 minutes, but hoping 150 for 1 hour with 2 climaxes might be possible.
Visited this club a few years ago and the talent was A1 then. Good selection of black girls then also.
BackpackBrian
12-11-22, 05:15
Spot on!
Just because there aren't busses with the word "TOURIST" on them parked in front, doesn't mean that Sharks isn't full with tourists, don't let the CIA psyop boy or the French clown tell you otherwise.
I was in Sharks recently and a large group of heavily tattooed Ukrainians (3 expensive cars with Ukrainian plates parked in front) were acting like a total bunch of SBU pigs, throwing money around (you know, your tax money that is paying for the Ukrainian proxy war), hard to miss, unless you're an American who doesn't know the difference between German and Ukrainian. Dieter kicked them out of the sauna because these uncultured pigs were wearing their dirty underwear inside the sauna because they were afraid that people will see their tiny dick. LOL! (now there is finally a big banner above the entrance reminding people to use a towel and take off their underwear).
Most locals are forced to pay these prices now after resisting for many years, it all started 5-6 years ago with the stupid tourists acting like simps with their excessive tipping. Mainland Europeans barely tip, so again, it's a typically dumb tourists thing.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=SimpHammer.
Take a look at some of my previous posts that discuss why prices have gone up.
In a nutshell, we had Romania and Bulgaria enter the EU in 2007, which brought Easter Euro pimps and their pushy little gypsy hookers pushing many of the German, Polish, Czech and other girls out. Then in 2017, the German Gov't passed the "gummi" law which is the main cause of the price increase, as this law forbid sex without a condom (driving up costs) and forbid the clubs from setting price controls.
BackpackBrian
12-11-22, 05:25
Spot on!
Just because there aren't busses with the word "TOURIST" on them parked in front, doesn't mean that Sharks isn't full with tourists, don't let the CIA psyop boy or the French clown tell you otherwise.
I was in Sharks recently and a large group of heavily tattooed Ukrainians (3 expensive cars with Ukrainian plates parked in front) were acting like a total bunch of SBU pigs, throwing money around (you know, your tax money that is paying for the Ukrainian proxy war), hard to miss, unless you're an American who doesn't know the difference between German and Ukrainian. Dieter kicked them out of the sauna because these uncultured pigs were wearing their dirty underwear inside the sauna because they were afraid that people will see their tiny dick. LOL! (now there is finally a big banner above the entrance reminding people to use a towel and take off their underwear).
Most locals are forced to pay these prices now after resisting for many years, it all started 5-6 years ago with the stupid tourists acting like simps with their excessive tipping. Mainland Europeans barely tip, so again, it's a typically dumb tourists thing.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=SimpHammer.
I also forgot to mention that the 2017 "gummi" law requires all women to register as a sex worker with the Gov't.
Many of the younger, more attractive college age German, Czech, Polish, etc. Girls who just need extra cash won't register limiting supply! And we all know what happens to prices when there's a demand and less supply, right?
Does anyone know what is planned for Silvester / New Years Eve 2022? Usually a special party. With increased entrance fee! - is advertised with potential firework display, champagne, stage shows etc. I've received no response to my email query to club. Has anyone heard if girls from other clubs are lined up for Silvester 2022 in Sharks?
Presuming vast majority are totally nude at this party? Refuse to pay 100 E for 30 minutes, but hoping 150 for 1 hour with 2 climaxes might be possible.
Visited this club a few years ago and the talent was A1 then. Good selection of black girls then also.2 black girls seen at the moment. Party on this week end is nothing special except only frenchie for me. Many girls with slow business. My chic elegant German playing ghost Kasper after great welcome on previous night when just finishing 2 hours with frenchie. My money go to France. Compare to Miss Globe election on other forum, as a very different client, my ranking is: 1 is fresh frenchie for 4 hours in a week, 2 is chic elegant German Kasper, wishing we can repeat as we told on previous night, 0 vote for both on other forum, same like for Sofia. De at Globe on 2020 when she was superstar there. For my number 3 , Sofi. De, even I didn t repeat for 200/60 , I would have for 150/60 . For fans, Austrian Aylin is back with silicon. Good point, old Sylvana is at Finca. Baltic Anjelika is still on business. No Marina. Lat seen.
Does anyone know what is planned for Silvester / New Years Eve 2022? Usually a special party. With increased entrance fee! - is advertised with potential firework display, champagne, stage shows etc. I've received no response to my email query to club. Has anyone heard if girls from other clubs are lined up for Silvester 2022 in Sharks?
Presuming vast majority are totally nude at this party? Refuse to pay 100 E for 30 minutes, but hoping 150 for 1 hour with 2 climaxes might be possible.
Visited this club a few years ago and the talent was A1 then. Good selection of black girls then also.I was there for the Christmas "party" this weekend and saw nothing about New Year, I imagine after this weekend they will start advertising it. I put party in quotes as the only thing different than a normal day in Sharks was a glass of champagne and a tiny table of extra food.
Given your price constraints I really don't recommend New Year's Eve at Sharks a lot of girls go home for Christmas, New Years Eve will be busy with lots of men and fewer girls, the ones that are left will set their prices accordingly therefore. I would expect them to ask more than 100 for half an hour and 150 for an hour. Much better to go to Sharks on a regular day.
I was there for the Christmas "party" this weekend and saw nothing about New Year, I imagine after this weekend they will start advertising it. I put party in quotes as the only thing different than a normal day in Sharks was a glass of champagne and a tiny table of extra food.
Given your price constraints I really don't recommend New Year's Eve at Sharks a lot of girls go home for Christmas, New Years Eve will be busy with lots of men and fewer girls, the ones that are left will set their prices accordingly therefore. I would expect them to ask more than 100 for half an hour and 150 for an hour. Much better to go to Sharks on a regular day.Not champagne but proseco. Casting was lower on Saturday than Friday when was quite good. Sylvester party are to avoid, gay drunk party, except maybe at Globe where only normal prize on this year because less crowd now. Many guys at Sharks on last night, but don t mean going to room.
GunningPeter
12-11-22, 11:31
Complaining about the prices will not help bring them down, actually they have been long time 100/30 so i lost hope the price will go down again in Sharks.
So accept it and pay or go to cheaper places like Aca Gold near dusseldorf.
I think 50/30 in Sharks will not return.I recall just before Covid how many ladies would be pitching 100/30 and it was hard to find the 50/30 offer, with smart alecks here saying how they were always getting the good deals. This trend has been a long time coming.
HammerTime96
12-11-22, 12:26
I was there for the Christmas "party" this weekend and saw nothing about New Year, I imagine after this weekend they will start advertising it. I put party in quotes as the only thing different than a normal day in Sharks was a glass of champagne and a tiny table of extra food.
Given your price constraints I really don't recommend New Year's Eve at Sharks a lot of girls go home for Christmas, New Years Eve will be busy with lots of men and fewer girls, the ones that are left will set their prices accordingly therefore. I would expect them to ask more than 100 for half an hour and 150 for an hour. Much better to go to Sharks on a regular day.Parties are IMHO always overrated. Remembering from pre-CONvid days, it's usually very busy, and as you correctly pointed out, apparently some girls will charge extra because of waiting times for rooms etc. However, this summer I 'accidentally' (I didn't know about this in advance, and I was too lazy to check their website beforehand) arrived at Sharks during the Summer Party, but it was not busier than usual. No waiting times, no hordes of men in blue bathrobes, no queues for rooms, many empty sunbeds outside, many empty cabins outside, many empty rooms inside, nothing special except for a glass of cheap Prosecco at the entrance, some kind of striptease performance (which I didn't see because I was in a room) and some different buffet food + crepes / pancakes.
I was at Sharks quite recently, and although it was quite a good line up, there were very few men and many girls sitting around without customers, looking bored and highly frustrated. And this is during a 'busy' weekend, just imagine what that place looks like on a Monday, Tuesday or Thursday which are traditionally the slower days!
Those silly girls have completely priced themselves out of the market, but they are either too stupid to realise that or too arrogant to admit that they have made a serious mistake.
I recently talked about this briefly with a girl in the room and we were both wondering how some women can make a small profit on a monthly basis. If I remember correctly, then normal entry for the girls is 110 Euros per day and if they want to sleep at Sharks they have to pay 150 Euros (entrance + sleeping).
So every day they need to make at least 2 x 30 minutes room for 100 Euros each to have a small 50 Euro profit at the end of the day. If a girl works 25 days per month and sleeps at Sharks then she will only have earned 1250 Euros netto (25 x 50 Euros profit), assuming she has on average 2 customers per day, which seems very optimistic because I see many girls walking or sitting around all night long without a single customer even during the weekends. Double that (4 customers on average per day, which is probably very optimistic for an GND looking girl) and she will have made a lousy 2500 Euros in one month. For the luxury of easy math, I'm not even assuming any income taxes here, or 'sharing' some of her income with her 'boyfriend. '.
That's absolutely crazy, and these same girls were probably making LOTS more money in 2019 when prices were lower.
Lower the prices and many more men will return. More men = more potential customers = more money. It's really that simple.
Escape Artist
12-11-22, 16:55
I recall just before Covid how many ladies would be pitching 100/30 and it was hard to find the 50/30 offer, with smart alecks here saying how they were always getting the good deals. This trend has been a long time coming.The difference was that only maybe 2 or 3 girls in the entire line up would ask for that rate prior to Covid. Maybe another 5-6 of the top girls wouldn't push for 150 for 1 hour. More commonly, the better looking girls who took 50 euro half hours would try to upcharge for BBBJ or rush through the room. That was the situation in 2019-2020.
Now every girl who would be on the second tier line up asks for 100 euro per half hour. It's a fair price in the world market but not in German FKKs. That rate defeats the major reason FKK became popular. FKKs are supposed to be about volume. And volume cannot be achieved at incall rates.
2 black girls seen at the moment. Party on this week end is nothing special except only frenchie for me. Many girls with slow business. My chic elegant German playing ghost Kasper after great welcome on previous night when just finishing 2 hours with frenchie. My money go to France. Compare to Miss Globe election on other forum, as a very different client, my ranking is: 1 is fresh frenchie for 4 hours in a week, 2 is chic elegant German Kasper, wishing we can repeat as we told on previous night, 0 vote for both on other forum, same like for Sofia. De at Globe on 2020 when she was superstar there. For my number 3 , Sofi. De, even I didn t repeat for 200/60 , I would have for 150/60 . For fans, Austrian Aylin is back with silicon. Good point, old Sylvana is at Finca. Baltic Anjelika is still on business. No Marina. Lat seen.I meant Miss Sharks election on other forum where also Miss Globe election, when my 2 best Sharks girls of 2022 have both 0 vote. So proud to be so different. I think another of few prettiest, Kity, also has 0 vote, but not surprising for her.
HammerTime96
12-11-22, 20:19
The difference was that only maybe 2 or 3 girls in the entire line up would ask for that rate prior to Covid. Maybe another 5-6 of the top girls wouldn't push for 150 for 1 hour. More commonly, the better looking girls who took 50 euro half hours would try to upcharge for BBBJ or rush through the room. That was the situation in 2019-2020.
Now every girl who would be on the second tier line up asks for 100 euro per half hour. It's a fair price in the world market but not in German FKKs. That rate defeats the major reason FKK became popular. FKKs are supposed to be about volume. And volume cannot be achieved at incall rates.I fully agree with you here.
Additionally, does anyone think that an unskilled migrant worker who sweeps the floors, cleans toilets, or is stocking shelves in a supermarket somewhere in Germany gets paid double now in 2022 when compared to 2019?
No, the difference is the complete absence of foreign sex tourists in those aforementioned industries, and that this migrant worker working random unskilled labour jobs in Germany still has the same German employer who will pay him more or less the same low (er) wage that he was paying in 2019.
Parties are IMHO always overrated. Remembering from pre-CONvid days, it's usually very busy, and as you correctly pointed out, apparently some girls will charge extra because of waiting times for rooms etc. However, this summer I 'accidentally' (I didn't know about this in advance, and I was too lazy to check their website beforehand) arrived at Sharks during the Summer Party, but it was not busier than usual. No waiting times, no hordes of men in blue bathrobes, no queues for rooms, many empty sunbeds outside, many empty cabins outside, many empty rooms inside, nothing special except for a glass of cheap Prosecco at the entrance, some kind of striptease performance (which I didn't see because I was in a room) and some different buffet food + crepes / pancakes.
I was at Sharks quite recently, and although it was quite a good line up, there were very few men and many girls sitting around without customers, looking bored and highly frustrated. And this is during a 'busy' weekend, just imagine what that place looks like on a Monday, Tuesday or Thursday which are traditionally the slower days!
Those silly girls have completely priced themselves out of the market, but they are either too stupid to realise that or too arrogant to admit that they have made a serious mistake.
I recently talked about this briefly with a girl in the room and we were both wondering how some women can make a small profit on a monthly basis. If I remember correctly, then normal entry for the girls is 110 Euros per day and if they want to sleep at Sharks they have to pay 150 Euros (entrance + sleeping).
So every day they need to make at least 2 x 30 minutes room for 100 Euros each to have a small 50 Euro profit at the end of the day. If a girl works 25 days per month and sleeps at Sharks then she will only have earned 1250 Euros netto (25 x 50 Euros profit), assuming she has on average 2 customers per day, which seems very optimistic because I see many girls walking or sitting around all night long without a single customer even during the weekends. Double that (4 customers on average per day, which is probably very optimistic for an GND looking girl) and she will have made a lousy 2500 Euros in one month. For the luxury of easy math, I'm not even assuming any income taxes here, or 'sharing' some of her income with her 'boyfriend. '.
That's absolutely crazy, and these same girls were probably making LOTS more money in 2019 when prices were lower.
Lower the prices and many more men will return. More men = more potential customers = more money. It's really that simple.Entry is 105 without sleeping in club. Following Oase girls few years ago, Sharks girls fucked their own business on this year, when they are not able to understand most guys visiting Sharks are not rich and can t afford anymore to pay such increasing, when most girls don t worth what they ask, but quality guy like me found frenchie and German Kasper who worth, to finish this year on high level at Sharks, when I was disappointed on most of the year. 800 € for France in 1 week. I confirm even on this week end party, slow business for many girls, some who were on Friday but didn t even come on Saturday, when Monday, Tuesday and Thursday are told to be now dead for business, and beginning of 2023 should be worse.
I recall just before Covid how many ladies would be pitching 100/30 and it was hard to find the 50/30 offer, with smart alecks here saying how they were always getting the good deals. This trend has been a long time coming.Smart alecks? Nope. I was in Sharks and Oase a couple of times in the fall of 2019 and one quick visit in Jan 2020 and I never paid 100/30. My sessions were a mix of 30 m, 60 m, and a few which were much longer but never did I pay at the 100/30 rate and I think many mongers didnot either. More to the point, it was absolutely not impossible or even difficult to find 50/30. Yes, BBBJ, DFK etc were not routinely included in the 50/30 in 2019 by all the girls (some did include these at that 50/30 rate). I did pay 150/60 for 2 sessions on a lone, one night visit a few months ago, and more than the price the experience was less than what it used to be.
I think the 2017 condom rule change made some difference to pricing but nothing like the Covid break.
Escape Artist
12-12-22, 07:58
No, the difference is the complete absence of foreign sex tourists in those aforementioned industries, and that this migrant worker working random unskilled labour jobs in Germany still has the same German employer who will pay him more or less the same low (er) wage that he was paying in 2019.Did rates double in Munich, Cologne, Berlin, and Vienna? Or do sex tourists only visit Frankfurt, Germany of all places?
SpermBirds
12-12-22, 09:21
Pfff. The socalled wonderful "Frenchie" in Sharks is Lora. She worked a few months in Finca Erotica untill she moved to Sharks. In Finca Erotica she was bookable for 60/30 m, 110/60 m obviously she's "worth" 200/60 m now and she even charges 150/30 m (or at least tries to get this stupid price) according to some comments. Unbelievable. Booked her in Finca, very average and the worst of the 3 bookings there although very nice social time without timepressure but lack of servicequality.
Servicewise she is very mediocre, not even close to topservice but probably exceptional enough for some to spend the double amount compared to a few weeks ago and justify that because of God knows which reason?? Cause she doesn't have tattoo maybe cause servicewise she's not worth a great deal for sure. Wonderful if she's top in Sirioja's list and good that he's proud to be different but just a joke if you consider it servicewise.
Pfff. The socalled wonderful "Frenchie" in Sharks is Lora. She worked a few months in Finca Erotica untill she moved to Sharks. In Finca Erotica she was bookable for 60/30 m, 110/60 m obviously she's "worth" 200/60 m now and she even charges 150/30 m (or at least tries to get this stupid price) according to some comments. Unbelievable. Booked her in Finca, very average and the worst of the 3 bookings there although very nice social time without timepressure but lack of servicequality.
Servicewise she is very mediocre, not even close to topservice but probably exceptional enough for some to spend the double amount compared to a few weeks ago and justify that because of God knows which reason?? Cause she doesn't have tattoo maybe cause servicewise she's not worth a great deal for sure. Wonderful if she's top in Sirioja's list and good that he's proud to be different but just a joke if you consider it servicewise.She is too pretty and too normal woman for your tastes, for sure not a hardcore porn doll, but a real true GFE for me and increased by communicating in French. When You told me I would not find natural beauties without tattoos, she is and I enjoyed so much her natural virgin beauty and sweetness loveliness. Only her, among around 80 girls, on my 3 visits in a week and wish to repeat if she return on next year, just for normal sex with a normal beautiful woman, so much more interesting for me than fake porn, but with really good BBBJ she offered me. German Kasper didn't get me when she didn't return on Saturday. I don't need to cure frustration about women, I just love beauties who worth more expensive for me. Would be riot at Globe for frenchie or Kasper. De and Swiss would book them for more than 1 hour even 300/60, papy would take plenty of towels for whole day. After nearly 10 years, almost weekly visiting except for holidays, I was happy to find magic with France, but have to be able, and happy to give her 200/60 when some Sharks girls not on her level, ask for more. My best Sharks 2022 girl, chic elegant Kasper. De being number 2, even 0 vote on Youppie, like for Sofia. De on 2020 at Globe.
BlueMoon22
12-12-22, 18:16
This may be a dumb question but where do you keep your cash to pay the ladies? In your locker and pay after? Sorry for the noob question but never been to a FKK club.
Hyperion2007
12-12-22, 19:17
This may be a dumb question but where do you keep your cash to pay the ladies? In your locker and pay after? Sorry for the noob question but never been to a FKK club.There is a safe in the main room, it's where the majority put their money and phone. Some let everything in the locker.
In your locker indeed. And pay the girls after you come back from the room.
Lower the prices and many more men will return. More men = more potential customers = more money. It's really that simple.Ideally yes but I can't think of many times when a seller has doubled their prices and then cut them in half again.
There's pride involved here, it's not just the logic of the markets.
Maybe the clubs can get to enforcing a 75 E standard, that would be an acceptable compromise to me, and the girls don't have to lose face by devaluing themselves. Just chalk it up to the club demands. I sure would like to enjoy an FKK again, but not at a 100 E minimum.
Did rates double in Munich, Cologne, Berlin, and Vienna? Or do sex tourists only visit Frankfurt, Germany of all places?Seem also increased quite a lot at GT Vienna. Goldengate is at least 30% more expensive than past Bruggen and french kiss is not so standard now. Samya also increased on average.
Escape Artist
12-13-22, 00:56
Everything everywhere increased, not only prostitution. But no where else besides Frankfurt FKK has prostitution price doubled. Blaming on foreigners is stupid since so few foreigners compared to locals in clubs.
Faceless78
12-13-22, 03:53
Seem also increased quite a lot at GT Vienna. Goldengate is at least 30% more expensive than past Bruggen and french kiss is not so standard now. Samya also increased on average.Just finished the salary negotiation for next year, and I would say the doubled price in shark is more like a made-up of all the price increases that could had taken place over the past years. If we take WGs as the staffs of a company, it's normal they receive a increase each year, like 5-10%. Ofc we won't pay coins or credit card, so those pay raises were "saved" in some way and ignored by everyone. And it's difficult for WGs to push price up overnight. We will say "wtf why I should pay double the price as it was last Friday?" But the covid break just gave WGs (or their pimps) a good opportunities to finally implement this price change, and the time to form an alliance. 100% raise in 15 year results in less than 5% each year, and when the new price structure get stable, it would stay for another 10 years or so. Probably acceptable?
Afterall, the reasons I visited much less after covid is mainly the drop of lineup, there are probably 2-3 sharks girls worthy 100/30 for me and I can't guarantee to catch them.
We will say "wtf why I should pay double the price as it was last Friday?" But the covid break just gave WGs (or their pimps) a good opportunities to finally implement this price change, and the time to form an alliance. 100% raise in 15 year results in less than 5% each year, and when the new price structure get stable, it would stay for another 10 years or so. Probably acceptable?Finally for the customers enough is enough and the tutes and their pimps run it all into the ground from being greedy and thinking they can make it all up all at once. Remember, plenty of organizations can and do go out of business too. There's no guarantee that the FKK model will be around forever. In ten years their goose might be cooked! For God knows whatever reasons that all come together to bring about their demise. Including more meddling politicians!
Hyperion2007
12-13-22, 13:58
Did rates double in Munich, Cologne, Berlin, and Vienna? Or do sex tourists only visit Frankfurt, Germany of all places?For the same services (BBBJ) :
Frankfurt: 100/30 in all the clubs.
Stuttgart: 100/30 in all the clubs.
NRW: same prices in Samya, Magnum, Mondial and Oceans but less expensive in the other clubs.
Berlin: 90/30 and 160/60.
The idea that tourists are the reasons for the price rise in Sharks is hilariously wrong.
Escape Artist
12-13-22, 16:33
For the same services (BBBJ) :
Frankfurt: 100/30 in all the clubs.
Stuttgart: 100/30 in all the clubs.
NRW: same prices in Samya, Magnum, Mondial and Oceans but less expensive in the other clubs.
Berlin: 90/30 and 160/60.
The idea that tourists are the reasons for the price rise in Sharks is hilariously wrong.Point of clarification would be that the 50 euro service is still available in NRW. It is just that some girls upcharge for BBBJ and most do not charge an extra 50 euro. Berlin was already 60 euro to begin with for basic, so not doubling like the Sharks girls. On the other hand, Sharks / Oase girls are asking for 100 euro outright.
Completely agree with you on the tourist scapegoatism.
For the same services (BBBJ) :
Frankfurt: 100/30 in all the clubs.
Stuttgart: 100/30 in all the clubs.
NRW: same prices in Samya, Magnum, Mondial and Oceans but less expensive in the other clubs.
Berlin: 90/30 and 160/60.
The idea that tourists are the reasons for the price rise in Sharks is hilariously wrong.Many German clubs or on border are less expensive: Goldengate, Gold, Penelope, Prime, sauna club Venus, Samya for 1 hour, 6 stuck to Aachen, few girls at Mainhattan and one of the prettiest. Only very few at Sharks worth 100 per 30 for look and level in bed for me, but I found 2, fine for me, when was complicated to manage on Friday night.
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