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Nyezhov
05-11-24, 00:28
That's one way to look at it. Another reality is the example of a multi-multi millionaire who will prefers to not pay 500 K for a Super Car when the market rate is 300 K.

When attempting to don the "too wealthy to care" persona, one should consider that one thing people actually in that social class care about more than money is the sense of power over others. People who genuinely carry this persona do not simply oblige to the requests of others just because. And especially not when someone is dictating how to utilize your wealth.

Also, 95% of girls will not up charge for BBBJ at the inflated rates.And another example is the multi-millionaire who was willing to pay anything for that rare item that he wants. So after a year of Thailand and Cambodia, I honestly don't care what some skinny blonde hard body 18 year old European teeny wants for my 15 minutes of grunting as long as she looks the way I want, which is not Asian. And then when I couple the foregoing with the fact that my only chance for such Glory is once a year on my way back to the states where I'll spend two months choking my chicken, I won't argue over $50.

And for you guys slapping each other over covered blowjobs, all I can tell you is try to get any blowjob in Cambodia.

Escape Artist
05-12-24, 01:31
And another example is the multi-millionaire who was willing to pay anything for that rare item that he wants. So after a year of Thailand and Cambodia, I honestly don't care what some skinny blonde hard body 18 year old European teeny wants for my 15 minutes of grunting as long as she looks the way I want, which is not Asian. And then when I couple the foregoing with the fact that my only chance for such Glory is once a year on my way back to the states where I'll spend two months choking my chicken, I won't argue over $50.

And for you guys slapping each other over covered blowjobs, all I can tell you is try to get any blowjob in Cambodia.Well, a bit different as the nature of the market. Doing so in the SE Asian market is expected. Haggling is part of the culture. In Germany, it was designed to be the opposite with set menu pricing. In addition to the aforementioned example is the disturbing act of disrupting local markets.

Sirioja
05-12-24, 02:35
I was extremely surprised to discover someone getting angry like a clown over upfront payment. And he misinterpreted my post.

I read my post again and couldn't find any indication that I had paid Rachel upfront. She requested but been rejected. Honestly I didn't bring money to room either because my robe pockets couldn't fit it. Consequently she cut my time and gave less service. This is whole story. Of course, I wouldn't stoop as low as someone to take girls to the reception. Gentlemen shouldn't argue with girls over just 100 euros, especially not with a sweet girl like Rachel.

I will take Rachel again tomorrow. This time, I'll make sure to check the time when I enter the room and let her know firmly.My little advice from my little experience is You should usually get better from a girl when paying at the end than at the beginning. Usually, we are paid after job, not before. Other tip, if she is into cutting time, look at your watch in front of her when starting. On this week end, I visited twice GG where 80/30 and 150/60 with BBBJ and FK for me, Penelope where 50/30 and LR where 50/30 for basic and I got a real cutie I don t see such face at Globe or Sharks for 120/60+ with BBBJ and FK all along hour for a kisser like me. 160 at LR with entry would have been around 300 at Sharks and more than 400€ at Globe, with less pretty girls, I would really feel deeply fucked in the ass by little Romanians. I was so happy I'm still able to find beauties for around 100/60, as a foreigner not speaking German, but not a tourist in doggy to be fucked.

Bonsai
05-12-24, 05:52
I was extremely surprised to discover someone getting angry like a clown over upfront payment. And he misinterpreted my post.

I read my post again and couldn't find any indication that I had paid Rachel upfront. She requested but been rejected. Honestly I didn't bring money to room either because my robe pockets couldn't fit it. Consequently she cut my time and gave less service. This is whole story. Of course, I wouldn't stoop as low as someone to take girls to the reception. Gentlemen shouldn't argue with girls over just 100 euros, especially not with a sweet girl like Rachel.

I will take Rachel again tomorrow. This time, I'll make sure to check the time when I enter the room and let her know firmly.Is rachel that girl with saggy be-tits?

And sits at the sofa right to the poledance?

Sirioja
05-12-24, 08:06
And another example is the multi-millionaire who was willing to pay anything for that rare item that he wants. So after a year of Thailand and Cambodia, I honestly don't care what some skinny blonde hard body 18 year old European teeny wants for my 15 minutes of grunting as long as she looks the way I want, which is not Asian. And then when I couple the foregoing with the fact that my only chance for such Glory is once a year on my way back to the states where I'll spend two months choking my chicken, I won't argue over $50.

And for you guys slapping each other over covered blowjobs, all I can tell you is try to get any blowjob in Cambodia.My only french friend in FKK is in Pattaya. When he knows my performances in FKK with prettiest and saw German snow white with me at Sharks 1 year ago, when he is around 2,00 and could play NBA, he wants to convince me, but I m not into Asian girls, maybe I could try ladyboys. Not his first tour and Caucasians and Asians don t play same game, same like in FKK. For him, easy to get nights from Soi6 , masseuses and even gogos, for 100 € , getting all he wants: BBBJ with CIM, FK, he could even easily have it AO, but doesn t want to take different risks. For his nights, You can have only fast suck and fuck with average little Romanians at Sharks. If I liked Thaï type, I would run there, rather than being fucked deep in ass by little Romanians.

Nyezhov
05-12-24, 11:46
Well, a bit different as the nature of the market. Doing so in the SE Asian market is expected. Haggling is part of the culture. In Germany, it was designed to be the opposite with set menu pricing. In addition to the aforementioned example is the disturbing act of disrupting local markets.Negotiating? I don't negotiate unless its stupid price quoting, then usually I just walk away.

I don't argue over $10.

My point was that when I roll off that plane from Bangkok and enter Sharks, I am laser focused on what I want, and I don't care what she wants along as its in the reasonable area. Its all about Me. Mememe.

Escape Artist
05-12-24, 16:44
Negotiating? I don't negotiate unless its stupid price quoting, then usually I just walk away.

I don't argue over $10.

My point was that when I roll off that plane from Bangkok and enter Sharks, I am laser focused on what I want, and I don't care what she wants along as its in the reasonable area. Its all about Me. Mememe.Fairly sure that is part of the criticism some locals have of American visitors. The exportation of the me me me attitude with subsequent disturbance of institutions that were there long before the individual.

Sirioja
05-12-24, 18:08
Is rachel that girl with saggy be-tits?

And sits at the sofa right to the poledance?She uses to sit close to entry. Coming from business in Munchen Bavaria.

AmSexyBoy
05-12-24, 22:16
Is rachel that girl with saggy be-tits?

And sits at the sofa right to the poledance?No. The girl you refer might be Sibel, 22 yo, half German half Turkish.

Rachel sat on couch at entrance used to be sat by Lina.

TankTank123
05-12-24, 22:49
Is rachel that girl with saggy be-tits?

And sits at the sofa right to the poledance?No. She has perfectly shaped non-saggy tits. Normally sits at the game machine at the entrance or the sofa next to it.

Nyezhov
05-13-24, 00:19
Fairly sure that is part of the criticism some locals have of American visitors. The exportation of the me me me attitude with subsequent disturbance of institutions that were there long before the individual.Well I guess it sucks to be the locals then. They can thank us that we let them have a country after all the trouble they cause. Plus, since my tax dollars allow such freeloaders to spend their money on decorating working girl houses as opposed to building tanks to keep Ivan off of them, my concern about ever upsetting Germans is non existent.

Blonde hard-bodied White teenies. Western girls. Yum yum. Time to Splash the cash.

Milfotronic
05-13-24, 08:26
Well I guess it sucks to be the locals then. They can thank us that we let them have a country after all the trouble they cause. Plus, since my tax dollars allow such freeloaders to spend their money on decorating working girl houses as opposed to building tanks to keep Ivan off of them, my concern about ever upsetting Germans is non existent.Muricans truly believe they are the saviors of universe. If you think USA is adding anything positive to the continent of Europe you are totally delusional. Europe is older than anything USA. Would be better if you traveled to your "backyard" Latin America where they really need your dollars.

Escape Artist
05-13-24, 10:26
Well I guess it sucks to be the locals then. They can thank us that we let them have a country after all the trouble they cause. Plus, since my tax dollars allow such freeloaders to spend their money on decorating working girl houses as opposed to building tanks to keep Ivan off of them, my concern about ever upsetting Germans is non existent.

Blonde hard-bodied White teenies. Western girls. Yum yum. Time to Splash the cash.Doesn't seem like something anyone actually thinks. Sounds more like someone trying too hard to put up a facade.

Sirioja
05-13-24, 22:22
Well I guess it sucks to be the locals then. They can thank us that we let them have a country after all the trouble they cause. Plus, since my tax dollars allow such freeloaders to spend their money on decorating working girl houses as opposed to building tanks to keep Ivan off of them, my concern about ever upsetting Germans is non existent.

Blonde hard-bodied White teenies. Western girls. Yum yum. Time to Splash the cash.When You seem to be afraid of your shadow, Germans who are at home should welcome a foreigner behaving like your words.

Nyezhov
05-14-24, 06:10
When You seem to be afraid of your shadow, Germans who are at home should welcome a foreigner behaving like your words.I'm not afraid of anything other than being confronted with a situation where a dwarfish, clearly disturbed and deranged individual tires to establish eye contact with me when stroking himself off in a shower and I get arrested after stuffing a shower shoe in his mouth.

Nyezhov
05-14-24, 13:48
Muricans truly believe they are the saviors of universe. If you think USA is adding anything positive to the continent of Europe you are totally delusional. Europe is older than anything USA. Would be better if you traveled to your "backyard" Latin America where they really need your dollars.Asia is better for fun than Latin America.

Not the proper section for me to go further than that.

Is it easy to get weed in Darmstadt now?

Turgid
05-14-24, 16:24
Muricans truly believe they are the saviors of universe. If you think USA is adding anything positive to the continent of Europe you are totally delusional. Europe is older than anything USA. Would be better if you traveled to your "backyard" Latin America where they really need your dollars.Right now the US rules the world and Europe has accepted that and has fallen into line although to their economic detriment. Europe has accepted that the US is the master of the universe.

HappyTour
05-14-24, 20:03
As Easter break ends, more girls are coming back, and some new young are joining too. It's a great time for those "Connoisseur of superficial charms".

Of course, Make sure your wallet is bulging enough. Almost all girls quote at least 100/30;or 200/60.

Milfotronic
05-14-24, 20:08
Right now the US rules the world and Europe has accepted that and has fallen into line although to their economic detriment. Europe has accepted that the US is the master of the universe.I think you're living in the 20th century still. Countries around the world are fed up with USA. Moreover, USA looks more like a house of cards than anything. Many Muricans can't wait to leave. If you don't want to admit it then that's your problem. You are after all traveling abroad to have the fun you can't find at home.

Sirioja
05-14-24, 21:53
Asia is better for fun than Latin America.

Not the proper section for me to go further than that.

Is it easy to get weed in Darmstadt now?Go to Asia where I m pretty sure You will pay more expensive to get lower than normal not too ugly nor fat Caucasian. I doubt Germans will like a guy with your words. When I m French, but I know nazis were not all Germans and I never talk about this with Germans because I don t want to make them feeling uncomfortable about past when they were not born.

Prelude141
05-14-24, 23:05
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Nyezhov
05-15-24, 03:52
As Easter break ends, more girls are coming back, and some new young are joining too. It's a great time for those "Connoisseur of superficial charms".

Of course, Make sure your wallet is bulging enough. Almost all girls quote at least 100/30;or 200/60.Thats me. Superficial Charms.

I hope I can find a mean one so I can pretend I married her.

Nyezhov
05-15-24, 03:56
Go to Asia where I m pretty sure You will pay more expensive to get lower than normal not too ugly nor fat Caucasian. I doubt Germans will like a guy with your words. When I m French, but I know nazis were not all Germans and I never talk about this with Germans because I don t want to make them feeling uncomfortable about past when they were not born.I live in Asia you dwarfish freak. I keep my thoughts to myself until asked, or until I need to respond. Unlike you.

Escape Artist
05-15-24, 07:40
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Bonsai
05-15-24, 09:27
As Easter break ends, more girls are coming back, and some new young are joining too. It's a great time for those "Connoisseur of superficial charms".

Of course, Make sure your wallet is bulging enough. Almost all girls quote at least 100/30;or 200/60.Was 3 x in sharks the last 1 month.

80% of the girl asking 100/30 and 150€/60 (that I talked to).

And the rest 200/60.

FantasyLane
05-15-24, 20:01
Good to know, thank you. Going there on Friday and looking forward to it!


Was 3 x in sharks the last 1 month.

80% of the girl asking 100/30 and 150/60 (that I talked to).

And the rest 200/60.

Shark16
05-15-24, 22:57
Of course, Make sure your wallet is bulging enough. Almost all girls quote at least 100/30;or 200/60.


Was 3 x in sharks the last 1 month. 80% of the girl asking 100/30 and 150/60 (that I talked to). And the rest 200/60.Bonsai, can you clarify what kind of performance that were discussed? Are we talking plain basic service (CBJ / CFS) or the "good ol'" GFE standard (with good BJ, DATY and kissing or fkissing included)?

If I understand HappyT correctly he is referring to sessions with good BJ and CFS, but no DATY or kissing.

Bonsai
05-16-24, 01:39
Bonsai, can you clarify what kind of performance that were discussed? Are we talking plain basic service (CBJ / CFS) or the "good ol'" GFE standard (with good BJ, DATY and kissing or fkissing included)?

If I understand HappyT correctly he is referring to sessions with good BJ and CFS, but no DATY or kissing.I ask for gf6 with DFK and bbj.

Others I don't ask.

Escape Artist
05-16-24, 04:07
Was 3 x in sharks the last 1 month.

80% of the girl asking 100/30 and 150/60 (that I talked to).

And the rest 200/60.Like you, I've also made 3 visits this past month. 80% is not my experience outside of some regulars or veteran girls who maintain 100/150 per hour rates for me. And that is usually for a 2+ hour room. For newer girls, I don't speak about pricing until I seriously think I would almost definitely go with her. So that is limited to only 3 or 4 girls per day where we actually get to price discussions. Over my 3 visit stretch, pricing came up with about a total of 10 girls. With that small sample size in April / May, I did not have a single unknown girl agree to 150 for 60 minutes; albeit, I don't negotiate hard. Meaning If I ask for a one hour rate, I've probably already decided I would take her to a room. It's just a matter of 30 minutes or 1 hour. My intention is that I would do 1 hour if she was agreeable to 150. I only ask once and if she says 200, then I usually just immediately fall back to the 30 minute option expecting an optic fuck.

But the point is that 80% seems quite off to me if we are talking about initial quotes and quotes following a single counteroffer. This is the experience of 10 year Sharks visitor, someone with a familiar face to many girls rather than a tourist who you might expect to be quoted higher prices. I also let many of the girls think that I am still a local rather having already moved from Germany.

To the other end of the spectrum where posters claim even higher quotes, I've only had one girl quote more than 200 for an hour and that was little Simona who would still do 200 e hours but asks for more if wanting "good service. ".

Side note, I have a friend who times his visits according to his favorite girls' schedules, explaining that he gets legacy pricing from them and does not want them seeing him going with newer girls because he doesn't want the regulars thinking he is paying a new girl the higher prices. My approach is the opposite in that I want the new girls seeing me taking girls who give me legacy pricing in hopes that they would lower their prices to catch my business. With that strategy, I have not gotten a lower price from any new girls but have had some pre-inflation girls agree to 150 e hours. That being said, new girls who have seen or heard that I took a girl for multi hour rooms have started to gravitate closer to me when I'm in the main lounge, making more attempts at small talk and just being overall more friendly and joking.

Escape Artist
05-16-24, 04:09
Was 3 x in sharks the last 1 month.

80% of the girl asking 100/30 and 150/60 (that I talked to).

And the rest 200/60.80% is not my experience outside of some regulars or veteran girls who maintain 100/150 per hour rates for me. And that is usually for a 2+ hour room. For newer girls, I don't speak about pricing until I seriously think I would almost definitely go with a her. So that is limited to only 3 or 4 girls per day where we actually get to price discussions. Like you, I've also made 3 visits this past month. Over that stretch, pricing came up with about a total of 10 girls. With that small sample size in April / May, I did not have a single unknown girl agree to 150 for 60 minutes; albeit, I don't negotiate hard. Meaning If I ask for a one hour rate, I've probably already decided I would take her to a room. It's just a matter of 30 minutes or 1 hour. My intention is that I would do 1 hour if she was agreeable to 150. I only ask once and if she says 200, then I usually just immediately fall back to the 30 minute option expecting an optic fuck.

But the point is that 80% seems quite off to me if we are talking about initial quotes and quotes following with a counter offer. This is the experience of 10 year Sharks visitor, someone with a familiar face to many girls rather than a tourist who you might expect to be quoted higher prices. I also let many of the girls think that I am still a local rather having already moved from Germany.

To the other end of the spectrum where posters claim even higher quotes, I've only had one girl quote more than 200 for an hour and that was little Simona who would still do 200 e hours but asks for more if wanting "good service. ".

Side note, I have a friend who times his visits according to his favorite girls' schedules, explaining that he gets legacy pricing from them and does not want them seeing him going with newer girls because he doesn't want the regulars thinking he is paying a new girl the higher prices. My approach is the opposite in that I want the new girls seeing me taking girls who give me legacy pricing in hopes that they would lower their prices to catch my business. With that strategy, I have not gotten a lower price from any new girls but have had some precovid girls agree to 150 e hours. Thank being said, new girls who have seen or heard that I took a girl for multi hour rooms have started to gravitate closer to me when I'm in the main lounge, making more attempts at small talk and just being overall more friendly and joking.

Nyezhov
05-16-24, 05:05
Bonsai, can you clarify what kind of performance that were discussed? Are we talking plain basic service (CBJ / CFS) or the "good ol'" GFE standard (with good BJ, DATY and kissing or fkissing included)?

If I understand HappyT correctly he is referring to sessions with good BJ and CFS, but no DATY or kissing.How much extra is customary for DATY on an Optifuck.

Bonsai
05-16-24, 11:25
Good to know, thank you. Going there on Friday and looking forward to it!As a regular local visitor, I can recommend everyone:

Don't ask for the price.

You better say it yourself: „like 100€ for 30 min and 150€ for 60 min? If its ok for you then we can find a room now".

Or so.

When you enter the hall, the girls on the right side of the bar are not recommended.

The group with melanie / emma / simona usw.

Those girls all asking 200/60 min or even more but less service.

UShobbyist
05-16-24, 11:36
I think you're living in the 20th century still. Countries around the world are fed up with USA. Moreover, USA looks more like a house of cards than anything. Many Muricans can't wait to leave. If you don't want to admit it then that's your problem. You are after all traveling abroad to have the fun you can't find at home.You can find almost all the funs in USA except FKK clubs.

UShobbyist
05-16-24, 12:03
Was 3 x in sharks the last 1 month.

80% of the girl asking 100/30 and 150/60 (that I talked to).

And the rest 200/60.Based on my recent experience, about 80% of the girls ask for 100/30 and 150-180/60. The rest of the girls ask for 200/60. There are less than 20% of the girls allow CIM with 50 EUR extra.

The Cane
05-16-24, 12:32
Based on my recent experience, about 80% of the girls ask for 100/30 and 150-180/60. The rest of the girls ask for 200/60. There are less than 20% of the girls allow CIM with 50 EUR extra.Well, what are you getting for that? If it's an hour with BBBJ / CIM, then under the current pricing structure I would go with that. Plus throw in another hundred for some butt hole.

Bonsai
05-16-24, 14:49
How much extra is customary for DATY on an Optifuck.I usually never ask for DATY, but if the girl likes, then its included!

I can recommend everyone never pay extra for DATY.

PinballMachine
05-16-24, 18:19
The girls ask 200/60 for some customers and 150/60 for others.

If they spot weakness in you the price is 200.

Don't be weak because then you get fooled.

I never pay 200/60 .

Bonsai
05-16-24, 18:56
80% i

Side note, I have a friend who times his visits according to his favorite girls' schedules, explaining that he gets legacy pricing from them and does not want them seeing him going with newer girls because he doesn't want the regulars thinking he is paying a new girl the higher prices. My approach is the opposite in that I want the new girls seeing me taking girls who give me legacy pricing in hopes that they would lower their prices to catch my business. With that strategy, I have not gotten a lower price from any new girls but have had some precovid girls agree to 150 e hours. Thank being said, new girls who have seen or heard that I took a girl for multi hour rooms have started to gravitate closer to me when I'm in the main lounge, making more attempts at small talk and just being overall more friendly and joking.I believe its always the best way to be straight and honest.

Just say „no thanks" if she only wants 200/60 min.

All men should be able to resists or you choose 100/30 min.

There is always a second option in sharks.

Shark16
05-16-24, 20:45
How much extra is customary for DATY on an Optifuck.Zero. I am yet to find a girl at Sharks who is not providing DATY or is asking extra for it. I therefore consider DATY a standard service without any extra cost in a 100E/30 session.

If I may ramble on:

I can wholeheartedly say that I have never heard a girl in Hessen asking extra for DATY in the last 20 years. Not saying it can't happen, in particular DATY can be refused as a service if you are the type of guy who bargains for a cheap and quick 50E/30 session. The bestlooking girls would never agree to a 50E session anyway (in 2024).

Outside Sharks I have found 1 at Oase and several at the Austrian FKK clubs (post corona). The one at Oase, for unknown reasons, simply refused to provide DATY at any cost (maybe she did me a favour). At the Austrian FKK clubs, in particular GT Vienna and Mystic, some girls, not all, will IME be trying to ask extra for DATY (30- 70 E). IME GT Vienna and Mystic are the worst upselling clubs out there.

Sirioja
05-16-24, 22:01
You can find almost all the funs in USA except FKK clubs.Same in France, much better quality of life than Germany, escorts but no brothel.

Escape Artist
05-18-24, 04:26
I believe its always the best way to be straight and honest.

Just say no thanks" if she only wants 200/60 min.

All men should be able to resists or you choose 100/30 min.

There is always a second option in sharks.Agreed, as I mentioned, when they don't come down on the 200/ HR, I opt for just 100/ half. My point was that unlike the other 2 reports of 80% taking 150 per hour, I have not come across a girl who was not a regular or a precovid girl who took that deal. Maybe it's just me or my selection, but the 150/ HR price is not my experience and is also not something commonly heard of on the German forums either.

Seshomeru1
05-18-24, 04:57
These prices are one of the highest in the entire world, better to just hobby in your own country.

Nyezhov
05-18-24, 04:57
I believe its always the best way to be straight and honest.

Just say no thanks" if she only wants 200/60 min.

All men should be able to resists or you choose 100/30 min.

There is always a second option in sharks.100/30 is a fine price for a blonde teeny optifuk. A little bit more expensive than in Bangkok and you don't get a blonde white girl. I have been eating Asian for a year, I'm looking forward to the meals that await me.

Sirioja
05-18-24, 09:10
The girls ask 200/60 for some customers and 150/60 for others.

If they spot weakness in you the price is 200.

Don't be weak because then you get fooled.

I never pay 200/60 .Do You pay 150/60 with fire Sofi. De, Kity, Katalea, Celine ex Oase? When I agree they don t worth 200 . Some ask more than 200/60 for few kissing. My advice is don t pay extra for kissing, because it means the girl is not a natural kisser and You will get only very average for your 50 . Kisser girls don t ask extra and highest level girls don t speak about money like grocer. Killing desire for me, when I need to be impressed by image to feel desire and being motivated to pay. I m happy because I still find woman images for 150/60 and even 120 , when so many better values than now most at Sharks.

Sirioja
05-18-24, 09:31
As a regular local visitor, I can recommend everyone:

Don't ask for the price.

You better say it yourself: like 100 for 30 min and 150 for 60 min? If its ok for you then we can find a room now".

Or so.

When you enter the hall, the girls on the right side of the bar are not recommended.

The group with melanie / emma / simona usw.

Those girls all asking 200/60 min or even more but less service.Simona is Rose? Very short but expensive. But not only them asking at least 200 , gypsy Claudia? Kity, Katalea, Celine ex Oase, Sofi. De? When You are into real GFE, not only 3 baby kiss, then You don t go for only 30 short mn and having to cut time to fuck like a rabbit is like paying for a failure, when 30 mn can t be same quality than minimum 1 hour which is sometimes too short for my love in bed, favorite game, like Sheryl Crow sings.

Sirioja
05-18-24, 11:34
These prices are one of the highest in the entire world, better to just hobby in your own country.When You are not only a tourist, even being a foreigner not speaking German, You still find 50/30 with prettier than most at Sharks, at Atlanta, Penelope, LR. Same in Switzerland, there are better values than Globe which fell for looks.

Saturn11
05-18-24, 14:38
These prices are one of the highest in the entire world, better to just hobby in your own country.Some of it comes down to why you go in the first place, if the only thing you are interested in is sex that could be true. Personally I still really likes Sharks, good atmosphere, sport on TV and as for the girls there is plenty of choice and I get good service from quite a few of them. I've probably been a couple of hundred times and still on a Friday or Saturday night the sight of 100+ naked girls walking around impresses me every time. It's nothing I can get in my country.

I tried Acapulco Gold which was much cheaper but just found it boring. I'd rather have less sex and pay the higher prices at Sharks than go there again. I quickly tired of using private ads, too many time wasters and girls that looks nothing like their profile photos, good thing about FKK clubs is there are very few surprises when you get to the room.

Escape Artist
05-18-24, 15:43
The girls ask 200/60 for some customers and 150/60 for others.

If they spot weakness in you the price is 200.

Don't be weak because then you get fooled.

I never pay 200/60 .To clarify, are some of yall claiming that you are getting 150 for a single hour with girls that started after covid / inflation?

Are we talking about regulars or new girls? Are you getting to the 150 rate only after hard negotiations? Or perhaps only with longs rooms?

The locals I know are also not telling me that they are getting 150 e for a single hour with a newer girl anymore. German forum members are also not reporting 150 for a single hour with a newer girl. I only get the 150 e rate with girls who have been there for a while, before covid, and with one newer girl who I've previously taken for two 30 minute rooms and built a good repoire. Since December 2023, I have not had any new girl agree to 150 e for one single hour unless I've been with them before. And it's not like I'm a new face or have been perceived as a tourist. I've been going for a decade and many girls know me to have potential for long rooms but not for paying high hourly rates. Some still think I am local.

Not trying to be controversial but would like to clarify if we're comparing apples to apples. I'm completely against the guys who say things like "I'll pay whatever I don't care to argue over small money. " At the same time, mongers tend to not want to be seen as weak or a "newb" so they tend to understate what they actually pay so they presumably save face.

Would like to know if it's just my face that makes girls want to charge 200 e and if the average monger actually gets quoted 150 e for a single hour by "80% of girls. " Trying to set accurate expectations for the average club visitor, and myself to boot.

Rocko20
05-18-24, 16:13
The girls ask 200/60 for some customers and 150/60 for others.

If they spot weakness in you the price is 200.

Don't be weak because then you get fooled.

I never pay 200/60 .Not every monger looks like Brad Pitt. Not every monger is as fit as a fitness model. Not every monger has the same leverage or negotiating power. Ugly, non-white, turkish, romanian, arabic, fat, bald, etc. dont exactly have much of a choice. If Brenda wants to charge them premium, they're going to pay it. There's only one Brenda, there's plenty of ugly fat guys.

Now if every monger looked like brad pitt and a fitness model, then every monger would have the exact same leverage. But this is reality.

Statistically, one of the most non-wanted demographics are Asian men. And they are in every brothel around the world happily spending money, knowing this is their few chances to get laid outside of an Asian woman.


good thing about FKK clubs is there are very few surprises when you get to the room.
Agreed. And thats why I still go to German FKKs.

In FKK clubs, you only have to go to one place and you get all the ass you can handle. Yes it sucks that most are Romanian. Yes it sucks that prices are stupid. Yes it sucks that the music is awful because the staff has a horrible taste in music. Yes the endless harassment by ugly WGs who can’t even get 1 customer and don’t take no for an answer sucks.

But, the pros still outweigh the cons. In my book.

Escape Artist
05-18-24, 16:20
These prices are one of the highest in the entire world, better to just hobby in your own country.Don't let the Sharks and the Hessen / Bavarian prices mislead you into thinking that this is normal for most of the country. For some areas, 100/ hour is the average rate. I'm thinking the average for all of the country is around 150 per hour. One monger mentioned Aca Gold being boring but that is one of the more run down venues. There are dozens of clubs scattered about in the same area that are more social. Now, Hessens clubs do have the perk of being the most international-English friendly so the vibe is different. You can tell by the number of girls who don't even speak German but fluent English. Go to NRW but not too close to the Dutch border where there is more German spoken in the clubs and you can find chill yet social vibes without Hessen / Bavarian pricing. Would help to speak or at least understand some German if vibes are what you're seeking.

BobNSuzy
05-18-24, 16:29
Not every monger looks like Brad Pitt. Not every monger is as fit as a fitness model. Not every monger has the same leverage or negotiating power. Ugly, non-white, turkish, romanian, arabic, fat, bald, etc. dont exactly have much of a choice. If Brenda wants to charge them premium, they're going to pay it. There's only one Brenda, there's plenty of ugly fat guys.

Now if every monger looked like brad pitt and a fitness model, then every monger would have the exact same leverage. But this is reality.

Statistically, one of the most non-wanted demographics are Asian men. And they are in every brothel around the world happily spending money, knowing this is their few chances to get laid outside of an Asian woman.This is just my opinion but I think your logic is off. They want easy money. They don't necessarily want to get turned on. I have heard there are Asian hunters in FKK clubs. If you aren't attractive to them but they see you as their little brother they will pick their little brother over studly Brad Pitt. Just my thoughts on it.

Rocko20
05-18-24, 16:33
This is just my opinion but I think your logic is off. They want easy money. They don't necessarily want to get turned on. I have heard there are Asian hunters in FKK clubs. If you aren't attractive to them but they see you as their little brother they will pick their little brother over studly Brad Pitt. Just my thoughts on it.Talk to Brenda, she'll give you a long list of men she will not see. Some WGs can afford to be picky.

Its imporant to keep that in mind when we talk about prices. Not every WG is getting as many customers as Brenda, meaning they dont have the leverage she has.

Thats just one example. You think the Germans dont understand that either? They're definitely never going to be cheaper than a Romanian, they are well aware of leverage and supply and demand as well. WGs will literally lie about what country they are from because they know it could change the leverage.

BobNSuzy
05-18-24, 17:32
Talk to Brenda, she'll give you a long list of men she will not see. Some WGs can afford to be picky.

Its imporant to keep that in mind when we talk about prices. Not every WG is getting as many customers as Brenda, meaning they dont have the leverage she has.

Thats just one example. You think the Germans dont understand that either? They're definitely never going to be cheaper than a Romanian, they are well aware of leverage and supply and demand as well. WGs will literally lie about what country they are from because they know it could change the leverage.I'll assume you are right, thanks.

HappyTour
05-18-24, 20:20
I am very surprised that Blenda suddenly seems to have become the "queen" level WG of the club, as some mongers emphasize.

For almost a decade, I've seen her every time I visit the club. We only went to a room together once during the early years of her career, and I paid her 50/30. She has never been on my favorite list. If you define her as the MILF queen, I might agree.

I have no problem paying 200/60 for Stacy, Ariana, Marta, or other teen-type beauties, but for Blenda, I'd only consider 100/60 worth a try.

Shark16
05-18-24, 21:26
To clarify, are some of yall claiming that you are getting 150 for a single hour with girls that started after covid / inflation?

Are we talking about regulars or new girls? Are you getting to the 150 rate only after hard negotiations? Or perhaps only with longs rooms?2023: I was vocal about 150 E /60 being possible with new girls at Sharks. It wasn't easy, but possible. Thus I suggested that gents should simply work harder for it.

2024: I am undecided, as my only 1 visit at Sharks in 2024 is not enough to be vocal about anything yet IMO. But admittedly, for the first time I had problems finding a new girl up to my standards (looks / performance) that were willing to do it for 150 E /60. Same tendancy at Oase. Much easier at World. A coincidence?

I am not a hard negotiater. But I WILL politely say no to girls if looks/performance/price are not up to par. There is just a small sample of new girls that interest me. Initially I will say no to them all and probably try out the most promising one at the end of a visit. If her quote is 200E/60, I'd rather go for 100E/30.

My regulars and other veteran girls are different. My regulars have a few years in the business, but they look after their apperance, still look amazing, and provide excellent sessions for 150 E /60 and even 100 E /60 (in longer sessions or with a legitimate extra). So, my focus are on them. Still, a visit is not completely successful unless you have also tried out that new pyt, right?

I will give it another shot later this summer before I make any strong conclusions. Meanwhile, I would happy to hear about other gents experiences. Comparing notes on what is happening on the ground in 2024 is what this forum should be all about.

Thanks for bringing this up, EA.

- S16.

Sidenote:

- I refuse to believe that the majority of girls discriminate against old, fat, black, Asian or what have you (Brenda is the exception, not the rule). The young and fit gents are NOT given any advantages in this business, trust me. The girls want our money. And as much as they can. They may try to manipulate you to pay a premium price and use "old, fat, black, Asian or what have you" as an excuse, but at the end of the day it is just manipulation. Just be clean and nice and act with a little bit of self confidence, and you will be fine paying going rates.

Turgid
05-18-24, 22:42
These prices are one of the highest in the entire world, better to just hobby in your own country.I used to travel to Germany regularly before covid but have not since. The girls I bang here are not as hot as FKK girls and are actually a little more expensive but it makes no sense for me to take the time and effort to travel to Germany, pay for hotel and meals and further effort to travel to FKKs, its not worth it now. It is not feasible, financially and otherwise.

James 006
05-19-24, 00:53
I used to travel to Germany regularly before covid but have not since. The girls I bang here are not as hot as FKK girls and are actually a little more expensive but it makes no sense for me to take the time and effort to travel to Germany, pay for hotel and meals and further effort to travel to FKKs, its not worth it now. It is not feasible, financially and otherwise.Agreed, yesterday's linup in the Sharks was the worst I've seen in my 50+ visits. 2-3 girls I could initially spend money on, but ended up with only one that I had two rounds with when I encountered upsell mentality from the two others.

Some of the porn star-looking girls spin all over the club and make a kind of bidding round and set priorities according to which customer is the easiest.

I refuse on principle to answer questions like how many times have you been in the room today? And so on.

Had a trip to Oase today and there is no better lineup there, although I like the atmosphere better. The girls have had several bad earnings days and were affected by this. No one managed to smile.

Customers often come just to talk and eat. Met a pretty hot lady I've roomed with before. But she started with uppsell in the room and I said that I don't want to be part of this and got up. Then she adjusted the price down. But it was still hard to forget her turnoff tactics. It went well, but not again with this lady.

I also ran into two former favourites, who have fallen out of interest for me, both were kicked out by the Sharks. Maybe the administration listens a little to the customers after all? But the Sharks administration must see how the club is decaying ethically and aesthetically, there are inevitable downturns everywhere, unfortunately.

Providing service is increasingly difficult to find and I understand why other customers are finding alternatives to FKK.

Where are the young hot girls? Old fat ladies with big asses are not for me. I might have to go to Switzerland soon?

Nyezhov
05-19-24, 05:39
I used to travel to Germany regularly before covid but have not since. The girls I bang here are not as hot as FKK girls and are actually a little more expensive but it makes no sense for me to take the time and effort to travel to Germany, pay for hotel and meals and further effort to travel to FKKs, its not worth it now. It is not feasible, financially and otherwise.I live in Asia, and need a month or two in the US every year for business. This year, like last year, I'm going through Frankfurt. It allows me to break up a trip, its 11 hours direct BKK to Frankfurt, I can land, relax and take off the next day, direct to my destination, 8 hours, done. As opposed to getting on a plane in Bangkok and going straight for 30 hours through Tokyo, Taipei, Seoul or (gasp, avoid) Manila, then LAX, 30 hours of Burger Kings.

But I digress.

I haven't banged a white girl since August 2023. My life has been a series of slinky skinny submissive roboboobed tatooed Thai girls (I don't bang Khmer girls) that I usually grab after wandering around the steets and clubs of Bangkok, hunting. So its bar to bar, street hustler to street hustler, the stench of sewage, grilled meat, weed and durian filling my nostrils as I dodge ladyboys, burkhas, clueless Chinese and smelly Africans until I find my cumdump.

And then I smash her as best I can (I'm old) ensuring that the pleasure is all mine, then pay her off and get some food and sleep because to find my gem, I walked 4 miles in the heat.

So now I have the FKK again. Imagine, gentle readers, this old arrogant, yet superficially charming old Yank now has an ENTIRE CLUB to play with. Walk up the stairs and have a jacuzzi. A sauna, nude white girls on 6 inch heels. Snacks. Barbeque. FOOD. FREE. WTF, are you kidding me? I'm already in pussy paradise (with the added advantage of being in Asia), now I get to go, by accident of air travel, to the pussy mecca of an FKK with all the comforts I need.

I hope the fixed the sharp edges on the Jacuzzi drain upstairs. Not the first one you come to, but the second.

Now the important part: The pussy. When I say I don't care what they charge, I mean it, but give me some credit kids, I've been at the mongering game since 1970 and I know the drill, so even if she is my dream girl, she can go pound sand if she hits me with something stupid. And 99% of the time, I'm a short time guy. Especially when I want to cram as many into my memory as possible as I return to the land of junky GPS. M.

So am I too understand that a short time is 100/30, yes? They upcharge for anal how much? With everbodys tastes varying, how many of the hoes would be classified as "Teeny sluts". Whats the roboboob percentage. How about caricature style puffy lip bimbos? Any ethnicity other than Romanians? Say Tues and Wednesday.

Can you smoke a vape outside? Is there any other place to nap other than the tents outside? Would folks look at me as a dork if I had a paperback to amuse myself when I'm too tired to be amused.

My psyche demands CIM. How much extra, if available? Otherwise, Ill just concentrate on throat girls in Bangkok before I leave.

Saturn11
05-19-24, 06:27
Where are the young hot girls? Old fat ladies with big asses are not for me. I might have to go to Switzerland soon?Maybe it's not a career path so many young girls are taking these days. Doubt Switzerland will be any better.

Sirioja
05-19-24, 09:24
Agreed, yesterday's linup in the Sharks was the worst I've seen in my 50+ visits. 2-3 girls I could initially spend money on, but ended up with only one that I had two rounds with when I encountered upsell mentality from the two others.

Some of the porn star-looking girls spin all over the club and make a kind of bidding round and set priorities according to which customer is the easiest.

I refuse on principle to answer questions like how many times have you been in the room today? And so on.

Had a trip to Oase today and there is no better lineup there, although I like the atmosphere better. The girls have had several bad earnings days and were affected by this. No one managed to smile.

Customers often come just to talk and eat. Met a pretty hot lady I've roomed with before. But she started with uppsell in the room and I said that I don't want to be part of this and got up. Then she adjusted the price down. But it was still hard to forget her turnoff tactics. It went well, but not again with this lady.

I also ran into two former favourites, who have fallen out of interest for me, both were kicked out by the Sharks. Maybe the administration listens a little to the customers after all? But the Sharks administration must see how the club is decaying ethically and aesthetically, there are inevitable downturns everywhere, unfortunately.

Providing service is increasingly difficult to find and I understand why other customers are finding alternatives to FKK.

Where are the young hot girls? Old fat ladies with big asses are not for me. I might have to go to Switzerland soon?For freshness, Romanians just fallen from Mercedes pimp, try Samya Koln, Penelope and Gold, but wait 31 May. Forget Switzerland for freshness, now girls are coming from Germany. Yesterday at my best quality, GG, I was very surprised to see a very fresh Romanian with 0 tattoo and big naturals, but I m a too faithful bad guy, repeating with my Russian very woman for extreme GFE making starting earlier her period after her deep orgasmus, for a bloody sex when she was so electric, when I changed inside her body. So interesting game.

Bonsai
05-19-24, 11:16
Yesterday night there was fire at sharks.

Fire engines were there.

And all people had to go out.

Its just funny how the german boards delete all post about this.

It means the germans also censore free infomativ posts.

Sirioja
05-19-24, 18:31
I am very surprised that Blenda suddenly seems to have become the "queen" level WG of the club, as some mongers emphasize.

For almost a decade, I've seen her every time I visit the club. We only went to a room together once during the early years of her career, and I paid her 50/30. She has never been on my favorite list. If you define her as the MILF queen, I might agree.

I have no problem paying 200/60 for Stacy, Ariana, Marta, or other teen-type beauties, but for Blenda, I'd only consider 100/60 worth a try.Brenda ex Lea / Leya, at Sharks since 2016, was elected Miss 2023, after she was defeated by Roxi on 2022. I saw her many times waiting for business, I was never attracted by her face, even amazing naturals. Not well mannered enough for me.

Sirioja
05-19-24, 18:35
Yesterday night there was fire at sharks.

Fire engines were there.

And all people had to go out.

Its just funny how the german boards delete all post about this.

It means the germans also censore free infomativ posts.My information is happened today Sunday at 11 am, but not important fire and reopening 1 hour later. Did you visit on Saturday night?

MikAlbert
05-19-24, 21:19
Brenda ex Lea / Leya, at Sharks since 2016, was elected Miss 2023, after she was defeated by Roxi on 2022. I saw her many times waiting for business, I was never attracted by her face, even amazing naturals. Not well mannered enough for me.Where and how does this election of Miss 202 x take place?

Den V
05-19-24, 23:52
Thank you Seshomeru1 and Turgid for sharing your thoughts. I totally agree, the situation in Germany is getting less attractive, and the same moment things maybe getting better in your location. And it makes less and less sense to travel for only one purpose.

But it is so easy to say 'Huh, I do not want to travel, I am good at home' in the middle of warm and blessed May. It is more difficult to say the same in rainy October or gray January. Yes, it makes less and less sense to travel for only one purpose, but still makes total sense to travel in general. And if to travel why not to go to the land of good beer, sausages and FKK?

By the way, I have just checked the airfare prices from my location to FRA and Bangkok, and travel to Thailand just a little more expensive now (even a trip is twice longer). And this is a really dramatic choice: folks, if you have the equal opportunity to go to Germany and Thailand, where would you go and why?

And thank you everyone for your reports here.

Turgid
05-20-24, 00:28
Talk to Brenda, she'll give you a long list of men she will not see.......This is curious. Is there any guy on here who has looked at Brenda and she did not give him that 'cum-hither' look?

Sirioja
05-20-24, 05:27
2023: I was vocal about 150 E /60 being possible with new girls at Sharks. It wasn't easy, but possible. Thus I suggested that gents should simply work harder for it.

2024: I am undecided, as my only 1 visit at Sharks in 2024 is not enough to be vocal about anything yet IMO. But admittedly, for the first time I had problems finding a new girl up to my standards (looks / performance) that were willing to do it for 150 E /60. Same tendancy at Oase. Much easier at World. A coincidence?

I am not a hard negotiater. But I WILL politely say no to girls if looks/performance/price are not up to par. There is just a small sample of new girls that interest me. Initially I will say no to them all and probably try out the most promising one at the end of a visit. If her quote is 200E/60, I'd rather go for 100E/30.

My regulars and other veteran girls are different. My regulars have a few years in the business, but they look after their apperance, still look amazing, and provide excellent sessions for 150 E /60 and even 100 E /60 (in longer sessions or with a legitimate extra). So, my focus are on them. Still, a visit is not completely successful unless you have also tried out that new pyt, right?

I will give it another shot later this summer before I make any strong conclusions. Meanwhile, I would happy to hear about other gents experiences. Comparing notes on what is happening on the ground in 2024 is what this forum should be all about.

Thanks for bringing this up, EA.

- S16.

Sidenote:

- I refuse to believe that the majority of girls discriminate against old, fat, black, Asian or what have you (Brenda is the exception, not the rule). The young and fit gents are NOT given any advantages in this business, trust me. The girls want our money. And as much as they can. They may try to manipulate you to pay a premium price and use "old, fat, black, Asian or what have you" as an excuse, but at the end of the day it is just manipulation. Just be clean and nice and act with a little bit of self confidence, and you will be fine paying going rates.Most girls consider Asians as easy for sex and are not selective at all about look, only maybe about HA look.

Prelude141
05-20-24, 07:41
Yesterday night there was fire at sharks.

Fire engines were there.

And all people had to go out.

Its just funny how the german boards delete all post about this.

It means the germans also censore free infomativ posts.German and French forums are 'sponsored' by the sharks. Corruption is everywhere, anything you read is only because they want you to read it. The rest is deleted.

UShobbyist
05-20-24, 10:10
Yesterday night there was fire at sharks.

Fire engines were there.

And all people had to go out.

Its just funny how the german boards delete all post about this.

It means the germans also censore free infomativ posts.This fire took place yesterday morning at about 10:15 AM after I paid 50 EUR entry fee. This awful fire completely burned down the sauna room inside. German board will NOT report this fire incident because it will affect Sharks business in a big way. Customers can still use the dry sauna room in the garden though.

UShobbyist
05-20-24, 10:25
My information is happened today Sunday at 11 am, but not important fire and reopening 1 hour later. Did you visit on Saturday night?I was in Sharks two days in a row. (Saturday and Sunday). The girls' lineup was much better on Saturday. The awful fire incident took place on Sunday morning about 10:15 AM. Three fire trucks with more than 15 firefighters fought the fire for about one hour. The fire completely destroyed the sauna room inside.

UShobbyist
05-20-24, 11:00
Well, what are you getting for that? If it's an hour with BBBJ / CIM, then under the current pricing structure I would go with that. Plus throw in another hundred for some butt hole.Based on my most recent two days' experiences (Saturday May 18th and Sunday May 19th) only less than 10% of the girls allow CIM with 50 EUR extra.

UShobbyist
05-20-24, 11:28
I used to travel to Germany regularly before covid but have not since. The girls I bang here are not as hot as FKK girls and are actually a little more expensive but it makes no sense for me to take the time and effort to travel to Germany, pay for hotel and meals and further effort to travel to FKKs, its not worth it now. It is not feasible, financially and otherwise.During my most recent two days' visits to Sharks, I did NOT see the 74 years old Silvener. The door manager told me that she took a month long vacation after Easter. Without this 74 years old witch to bug them, a lot of punters were in the hot tubs to have a good time especially in the afternoon and in the evening.

UShobbyist
05-20-24, 11:47
Brenda ex Lea / Leya, at Sharks since 2016, was elected Miss 2023, after she was defeated by Roxi on 2022. I saw her many times waiting for business, I was never attracted by her face, even amazing naturals. Not well mannered enough for me.Brenda's services were way blow average. She does not allow digit in her pussy let alone anal digit. Nadia of FKK Oase beats Brenda hands down in both face and services.

The Cane
05-20-24, 12:32
So now I have the FKK again. Imagine, gentle readers, this old arrogant, yet superficially charming old Yank now has an ENTIRE CLUB to play with. Walk up the stairs and have a jacuzzi. A sauna, nude white girls on 6 inch heels. Snacks. Barbeque. FOOD. FREE. WTF, are you kidding me? I'm already in pussy paradise (with the added advantage of being in Asia), now I get to go, by accident of air travel, to the pussy mecca of an FKK with all the comforts I need.How do you figure? You have to pay an admission fee to enter the clubs. And those fees have gone up over the years, to the point that some guys don't think it's worth it anymore (I'm not one of those). I do think it's dead wrong though when somebody tries to add the price of admission to the cost of a session. That's dead wrong because the price of admission carries its own value, as you already well know (jacuzzi, sauna, food, naked white chicks). And so on. It's cool, but it isn't all for free as you suggest. You have to pay to "enter" in more ways than one LOL!

Saturn11
05-20-24, 13:43
During my most recent two days' visits to Sharks, I did NOT see the 74 years old Silvener. The door manager told me that she took a month long vacation after Easter. Without this 74 years old witch to bug them, a lot of punters were in the hot tubs to have a good time especially in the afternoon and in the evening.I was told her vacation normally involves working at a club in Stuttgart. Despite her claims of giving the best blow job ever, I've never been remotely tempted. It would be impossible for her to give me a blowjob anyway since I'd never be erect with her.

She leaves me alone now after I turned her down repeatedly but still I prefer the club when she isn't there.

Nyezhov
05-20-24, 13:51
Thank you Seshomeru1 and Turgid for sharing your thoughts. I totally agree, the situation in Germany is getting less attractive, and the same moment things maybe getting better in your location. And it makes less and less sense to travel for only one purpose.

But it is so easy to say 'Huh, I do not want to travel, I am good at home' in the middle of warm and blessed May. It is more difficult to say the same in rainy October or gray January. Yes, it makes less and less sense to travel for only one purpose, but still makes total sense to travel in general. And if to travel why not to go to the land of good beer, sausages and FKK?

By the way, I have just checked the airfare prices from my location to FRA and Bangkok, and travel to Thailand just a little more expensive now (even a trip is twice longer).Fly to Thailand from Frankfurt, 11 hours.

Turgid
05-20-24, 14:37
I was told her vacation normally involves working at a club in Stuttgart. Despite her claims of giving the best blow job ever, .....Indeed, she is reputed to give the best BBBJ one could ever get. My advice is to lay back and think that (insert name here) is doing it while she is sucking you off. You will be surprised how intense will be the CIM.

Sirioja
05-20-24, 19:49
Brenda's services were way blow average. She does not allow digit in her pussy let alone anal digit. Nadia of FKK Oase beats Brenda hands down in both face and services.Sure, not Ukrainian Nadia Oase is far prettier than Brenda, showing the fall for looks at Sharks when Miss Sharks 2023 , but if Brenda is below Nadia in bed, then really low level for sex. I always thought most guys go only for her unique naturals.

Sirioja
05-20-24, 20:00
Where and how does this election of Miss 202 x take place?On youppie forum, when many French visit often Sharks, but I m a very different French and I would not vote for Brenda.

Sirioja
05-20-24, 20:08
German and French forums are 'sponsored' by the sharks. Corruption is everywhere, anything you read is only because they want you to read it. The rest is deleted.But nobody could never make me stopping, when a real free mind, not even my employers.

Saturn11
05-20-24, 20:41
Indeed, she is reputed to give the best BBBJ one could ever get. My advice is to lay back and think that (insert name here) is doing it while she is sucking you off. You will be surprised how intense will be the CIM.In order of preference I have.

(1) Good BJ from a hot girl.

(2) Average BJ from a hot girl.

(3) Good BJ from an average looking girl.

(4) Average BJ from an average looking girl.

(5) No BJ.

(6) BJ from Sylvanna.

Nyezhov
05-21-24, 01:36
When I was in Sharks last year an old fat ugly approached me and I blew her off. What does this Sylvanna creature look like? I'm surprised The Insane Dwarf hasnt chimed in about her life, her talents, etc in indecipherable English.

UShobbyist
05-21-24, 07:33
In order of preference I have.

(1) Good BJ from a hot girl.

(2) Average BJ from a hot girl.

(3) Good BJ from an average looking girl.

(4) Average BJ from an average looking girl.

(5) No BJ.

(6) BJ from Sylvanna.On Sunday afternoon, the sun came up. All the chairs around the swimming pool were taken by naked men. Sylvanna's specialty was giving naked sunbathers BBBJ in public. Sylvanna missed a lot of income last Sunday because she could not make same amount of money in other clubs.

Turgid
05-21-24, 15:13
In order of preference I have.

(1) Good BJ from a hot girl.

(2) Average BJ from a hot girl.

(3) Good BJ from an average looking girl.

(4) Average BJ from an average looking girl.

(5) No BJ.

(6) BJ from Sylvanna.I cannot trust your order of preference because although you no doubt experienced (1) to (5) you have not experienced (6).

Saturn11
05-21-24, 17:03
When I was in Sharks last year an old fat ugly approached me and I blew her off. What does this Sylvanna creature look like? I'm surprised The Insane Dwarf hasnt chimed in about her life, her talents, etc in indecipherable English.Doesn't sound like her as she isn't fat but she is old, she's in her 70's apart from that I'm struggling to describe her. She's Italian and her line to potential new customers is she gives the best blow job in the world. I'm not aware of any other women in their 70's working in Sharks so you should know her if she her.

Some of my regular girls want me to go with her so I can report back if indeed it is the best in the world.

Turgid
05-22-24, 17:08
Doesn't sound like her as she isn't fat but she is old, she's in her 70's apart from that I'm struggling to describe her. She's Italian and her line to potential new customers is she gives the best blow job in the world. I'm not aware of any other women in their 70's working in Sharks so you should know her if she her.

Some of my regular girls want me to go with her so I can report back if indeed it is the best in the world.I heard it said that once you get a BBBJ CIM from Sylvana you will keep going back so these girls better be aware of what they're asking for.

Sirioja
05-22-24, 21:22
I was in Sharks two days in a row. (Saturday and Sunday). The girls' lineup was much better on Saturday. The awful fire incident took place on Sunday morning about 10:15 AM. Three fire trucks with more than 15 firefighters fought the fire for about one hour. The fire completely destroyed the sauna room inside.Same information from inside for me. When I criticize kind of chicken robbers casting with bad value for money, but no problem and no safety problem about the club, my tip being to target short old woman with short hair who is much faster than others at the bar. Club is not helped by most girls, for business.

Escape Artist
05-23-24, 04:18
Sharks line up on this past Wednesday was one of the worst I've seen for a 50 e entry Wednesday since Corona. Before Orthodox Easter, I remember the line up being the slimmest I've seen in while, but last night there was a particularly odd number of larger and older women. I mean, the line up resembled a large NRW club line up. Customers were scarce too, like 2:1, F: M. The odds were good but the goods were quite odd. I just took a massage from the Thai lady and took Arianna, which was a delightful time. I'm still not into 200 euro hours but at least she gives old school service with no time pressure or upsell from there.

HammerTime96
05-23-24, 19:46
Sharks line up on this past Wednesday was one of the worst I've seen for a 50 e entry Wednesday since Corona. Before Orthodox Easter, I remember the line up being the slimmest I've seen in while, but last night there was a particularly odd number of larger and older women. I mean, the line up resembled a large NRW club line up. Customers were scarce too, like 2:1, F: M. The odds were good but the goods were quite odd.Yes I was there in April and last week, and it was similar, the staff behind the bar joked that it was like a Lesbian Party LOL! The 'excuses' of Orthodox Easter, Ramadan, and other public holidays did not apply when I was there in April and as you pointed out: very few male customers, and a very mediocre lineup. Girls like Brenda, Senna, Ester, Abbi, Renata, Catalea, and lots of other girls who's name I don't know and who are normally very busy during the weekend, were standing around a lot in April.

By the way, as mentioned I was also in Sharks last week and to be fair: the month of May is always a bit 'special' because this year there is Orthodox Easter, but also in May there are a lot of German public holidays like Labour Day (May 1st, which is also celebrated in Romania), Ascension Day, and Pentecost, which probably all have an effect on both the visitors and girls present. Nevertheless, I don't remember things being this bad last year in April-May.

However, as I already predicted a while ago: it seems that 1) sky high prices compared to 2019,2) shitty service, 3) lack of salary growth for male customers in combination with high inflation, is finally biting the ladies in the ass. I'm guessing that many men (including locals) have finally woken up that FKK clubs in Germany are no longer a 'good deal' and unsurprisingly they are voting with their feet and wallets, because at the end of the day priority has to be given to paying for rent or mortgage, heating costs, and groceries.

Isn't it ironic that by prohibiting price discussions on the German forum, they are now ultimately destroying their own 'paradise,' because many fixed costs (heating, staff, food, maintenance, security) for Sharks will remain the same. In the end they'll have to pay more entrance for less service and get to 'enjoy' a lousy lineup with high prices.

Escape Artist
05-24-24, 04:56
Yes I was there in April and last week, and it was similar, the staff behind the bar joked that it was like a Lesbian Party LOL! The 'excuses' of Orthodox Easter, Ramadan, and other public holidays did not apply when I was there in April and as you pointed out: very few male customers, and a very mediocre lineup. Girls like Brenda, Senna, Ester, Abbi, Renata, Catalea, and lots of other girls who's name I don't know and who are normally very busy during the weekend, were standing around a lot in April.

By the way, as mentioned I was also in Sharks last week and to be fair: the month of May is always a bit 'special' because this year there is Orthodox Easter, but also in May there are a lot of German public holidays like Labour Day (May 1st, which is also celebrated in Romania), Ascension Day, and Pentecost, which probably all have an effect on both the visitors and girls present. Nevertheless, I don't remember things being this bad last year in April-May.

However, as I already predicted a while ago: it seems that 1) sky high prices compared to 2019,2) shitty service, 3) lack of salary growth for male customers in combination with high inflation, is finally biting the ladies in the ass. I'm guessing that many men (including locals) have finally woken up that FKK clubs in Germany are no longer a 'good deal' and unsurprisingly they are voting with their feet and wallets, because at the end of the day priority has to be given to paying for rent or mortgage, heating costs, and groceries.

Isn't it ironic that by prohibiting price discussions on the German forum, they are now ultimately destroying their own 'paradise,' because many fixed costs (heating, staff, food, maintenance, security) for Sharks will remain the same. In the end they'll have to pay more entrance for less service and get to 'enjoy' a lousy lineup with high prices.I actually meant to say that the line up optics at the end of April was actually pretty good, especially for the guys who like teenie and skinny. But man, Wednesday was rough. It was a Monday quality line up with oldies, fatties, and bad tit jobs. I wasn't there May 1st but I heard it was pretty good being a holiday and the weather was nice, sunny at 25 C. I'm certain the lineup optic quality will improve, and guessing it will do so by this weekend. No way it can get any worse.

As for the price inflation, doubtful changes happen and I'll once against doubt on the guys saying 150 euro was the asking price for 80% of the girls.

But yeah, if the men stay away, yeah, it's a wrap. The question is what can the club do about it? These new girls are set on the 200 e hour.

Nyezhov
05-24-24, 05:24
Does anyone know the time the first morning train goes from Darmstadt to the airport, or the bus?

I have an 08:30 flight out. That means I need to be there at 06:00.

Sirioja
05-24-24, 06:36
I heard it said that once you get a BBBJ CIM from Sylvana you will keep going back so these girls better be aware of what they're asking for.Same like German Zoe with super sexy milky skin very woman body, legendary Sylvana tour all over FKK land, she is Taylor Swift of FKK land. When she hunted at Samya, just fallen from Mercedes pimp very fresh Romanians looked at her with round eyes, when no hunting at Samya. Funny, when no more teeth, but she gets more business than some real beauties.

Sirioja
05-24-24, 07:27
When Oase became upselling to fuck tourists, on 2016 , girls lost business and cried. Just normal happen same now at upselling Sharks, when I see ex regulars in other clubs. Can still find 50/30 at Atlanta and in NRW, with prettier than at Sharks. When I'm not a 30 mn rabbit, but like to play my love in bed, only in bed, game, needing at least 1 hour, I don't see any, since very fresh when she arrived, not with Ariana Grande, prostitute look with poneytail with extensions, Lora, worthing 200/60 and I got her in hotel for same rate. Pity a gypsy pimp behind, but a rare supermodel which must be higher than 1,77, natural beauty, even I had to be so careful when fucking her small pussy. But pimps are small size.

UShobbyist
05-24-24, 14:25
Same information from inside for me. When I criticize kind of chicken robbers casting with bad value for money, but no problem and no safety problem about the club, my tip being to target short old woman with short hair who is much faster than others at the bar. Club is not helped by most girls, for business.I just don't understand why customers always talk about old ugly girl such as Sylvanna and lousy service girl such as Brenda. They just don't know who Dina is. I think that Dina (2017 - 2019) is the most beautiful girl in Sharks' history. Dina was not only beautiful but also provided good services if you paid 150 EUR or more at that time.

Samplerr
05-24-24, 14:54
Does anyone know the time the first morning train goes from Darmstadt to the airport, or the bus?

I have an 08:30 flight out. That means I need to be there at 06:00.Just plug your query into Google Maps Journey Planner.

SerpentX
05-24-24, 15:03
First airline bus departs at 4:15 am from train station.


Does anyone know the time the first morning train goes from Darmstadt to the airport, or the bus?

I have an 08:30 flight out. That means I need to be there at 06:00.

Nyezhov
05-24-24, 16:56
Just plug your query into Google Maps Journey Planner.Thanks, I tried various searches and never got a coherent answer. Now I know thanks to a courteous gentleman here.

Nyezhov
05-24-24, 16:57
First airline bus departs at 4:15 am from train station.Thanks bro. Now any tips for some good German food in Darmstadt?

Escape Artist
05-24-24, 17:32
Does anyone know the time the first morning train goes from Darmstadt to the airport, or the bus?

I have an 08:30 flight out. That means I need to be there at 06:00.Here's the Airliner bus from Darmstadt directly to the airport, 30 min direct route. Ticket is 10 e. For daytime schedules, the bus leaves at 15 and 45 past the hour starting at 4:15 from platform 11 of the bus depot adjacent to the train station. It does not service terminal 2 at the moment so you'the have to account for the time to take the shuttle from terminal 1 if you need to go there.

https://www.rmv.de/c/fileadmin/documents/PDFs/_RMV_DE/Fahrkarten/Fahrkarten_im_Ueberblick/Lokale_Fahrkartenangebote/LNO_12_Darmstadt/Da_Airliner_Faltblatt_ab231210.pdf

But you don't really need to get there 2. 5 hours early. Yesterday I arrived at 9:20, literally walked from one end of Terminal 1 to the other starting at Zone A to get zone see airline counters in order to purchase a seat upgrade. Then walked back half way across the terminal to zone be departure document / entry point. Walked to and through the security line, then to and through passport control, and was at my gate by 9:55. Luckily my airline lounge was directly across from the gait so I even had an hour to enjoy the free booze at 10 am.

But personally I usually rent a car and make my own schedule.

HammerTime96
05-24-24, 18:41
But yeah, if the men stay away, yeah, it's a wrap. The question is what can the club do about it? These new girls are set on the 200 e hour.The club could take some short term pain (less entry fees) and refuse entry to a couple of girls asking ridiculous prices in exchange for abysmal service: make an example out of them. The German forum is full of names of girls who provide horrible service and try to charge 100 or even 150 Euros for 30 minutes. Of course the club isn't allowed to dictate prices or service levels, but at the same time the club has a right to refuse entry to anyone whom they 'think will not fit in with the rest of the visitors,' similar to how they (apparently) refuse entry to men who don't speak any English or German. Girls who give the club a bad reputation and-or ruin the experience for male visitors could perhaps be a valid reason to kick out some of the worst offenders? I'm pretty sure that a man who receives a lot of complaints from the ladies, staff, or other men (for example constantly harassing girls, try to blackmail them, try to steal money from them, or causing a fight or conflicts with other guests) could be refused entry. The legal concept of door policy is usually a very large grey area in most countries.


I just don't understand why customers always talk about old ugly girl such as Sylvanna and lousy service girl such as Brenda. They just don't know who Dina is. I think that Dina (2017 - 2019) is the most beautiful girl in Sharks' history. Dina was not only beautiful but also provided good services if you paid 150 EUR or more at that time.Ah yes, the good old days of Dina. Yeah Dina was nice, sexy, funny to talk to, and always provided excellent service. The only slight downside for me was her excessively fake and loud moaning, it's not really my thing, but after I jokingly said to her with a big smile "ssshhhhh Dinaaaa, you're waking everybody up!" during our second room together, she got the hint and was much quieter during subsequent rooms. No need to pay her 150 Euros, my rooms with her were usually 30 minute rooms for 50 Euros and they were a lot of fun. I genuinely hope she's doing well in retirement.

Nyezhov
05-25-24, 02:59
Here's the Airliner bus from Darmstadt directly to the airport, 30 min direct route. Ticket is 10 e. For daytime schedules, the bus leaves at 15 and 45 past the hour starting at 4:15 from platform 11 of the bus depot adjacent to the train station. It does not service terminal 2 at the moment so you'the have to account for the time to take the shuttle from terminal 1 if you need to go there.

https://www.rmv.de/c/fileadmin/documents/PDFs/_RMV_DE/Fahrkarten/Fahrkarten_im_Ueberblick/Lokale_Fahrkartenangebote/LNO_12_Darmstadt/Da_Airliner_Faltblatt_ab231210.pdf

But you don't really need to get there 2. 5 hours early. Yesterday I arrived at 9:20, literally walked from one end of Terminal 1 to the other starting at Zone A to get zone see airline counters in order to purchase a seat upgrade. Then walked back half way across the terminal to zone be departure document / entry point. Walked to and through the security line, then to and through passport control, and was at my gate by 9:55. Luckily my airline lounge was directly across from the gait so I even had an hour to enjoy the free booze at 10 am.

But personally I usually rent a car and make my own schedule.I'm afraid to drive as I haven't been behind the wheel in almost 18 months LOL.

I'm going Singapore Air to the USA. Would you say that 2 hours before is enough for them?

Thanks for the link bro, I'm embarrased I couldn't find it.

Now I have to decide whether to saty at the Dormero or some place closer to the station.

Escape Artist
05-25-24, 09:37
The club could take some short term pain (less entry fees) and refuse entry to a couple of girls asking ridiculous prices in exchange for abysmal service: make an example out of them. The German forum is full of names of girls who provide horrible service and try to charge 100 or even 150 Euros for 30 minutes. Of course the club isn't allowed to dictate prices or service levels, but at the same time the club has a right to refuse entry to anyone whom they 'think will not fit in with the rest of the visitors,' similar to how they (apparently) refuse entry to men who don't speak any English or German. Girls who give the club a bad reputation and-or ruin the experience for male visitors could perhaps be a valid reason to kick out some of the worst offenders? I'm pretty sure that a man who receives a lot of complaints from the ladies, staff, or other men (for example constantly harassing girls, try to blackmail them, try to steal money from them, or causing a fight or conflicts with other guests) could be refused entry. The legal concept of door policy is usually a very large grey area in most countries.
I must clarify to readers that the German forums, while providing names of girls providing horrible service for 100 or 150, does not mean that they are reporting 50 e rooms either.

But yeah, I get your proposal but consider that Sharks does not exist independently from other clubs. Girls working Frankfurt area clubs all charge the same. If Sharks cracks down and start blocking entry for girls, what stops them from just popping over to Oase or Palace? I mean, it's a hard call. Do you not risk losing your position as the king club of Hessen by sacrificing line up numbers, perhaps resulting in a slow deterioration of overall club quality. Or do nip it in the bud, control the girls, but risk losing your line up to other clubs?

Sirioja
05-25-24, 13:32
I just don't understand why customers always talk about old ugly girl such as Sylvanna and lousy service girl such as Brenda. They just don't know who Dina is. I think that Dina (2017 - 2019) is the most beautiful girl in Sharks' history. Dina was not only beautiful but also provided good services if you paid 150 EUR or more at that time.Because weird to see a granny getting young guys, when old Germans love schoolgirl style, they might have missed at school. What I experienced in 2014/2015 is Dina is too professionnal and not my GFE, not letting go but she wanted to control. Mersi. Hu was much more GFE. I can't say other than Katalina for highest level I got at Sharks, even only 1 2 hours 200 room, but I followed her at Globe and Megan followed me at Globe, when I didn't follow German snow white when she moved to escorting on June 2023 . When Kate was a busy superstar at Globe but looking what I did, as I told her: You don't need to be jealous about Larissa ex Isabella, when I went to Globe for You.

Escape Artist
05-25-24, 19:04
I'm afraid to drive as I haven't been behind the wheel in almost 18 months LOL.

I'm going Singapore Air to the USA. Would you say that 2 hours before is enough for them?

Thanks for the link bro, I'm embarrased I couldn't find it.

Now I have to decide whether to saty at the Dormero or some place closer to the station.Frankfurt airport is one of the faster ones, much more simple and fast than Paris-CDG or London Heathrow. I wouldn't want to cause anyone to miss their flight but I've found myself dropping off rental keys at 45 minutes before departure and still easily made my flight. Now that's with not checking bags, knowing the airport, and knowing how to pack as to not cause any delays at security. You know, proper travel etiquette. But that being said, 90 minutes is a nice no rush rule of thumb for me. But hey, if you have airport lounge access, getting there 4 hours early has its perks of being able to take in an hour or two to get that last meal and drink, giving you a moment to reflect on the awesome time you've had.

Driving in Germany is so easy ever since GPS. People follow the rules and aren't aggressive drivers unless you're doing something bonehead when they will not hesitate to express their disapproval of any incompetence or rule breaking. If there's a place to get back back comfortable with driving in traffic, it's in Germany while following an onscreen GPS. Apple Play is money.

Darmstadt's not a big town so you can get taxis from anywhere to the station for less than 20 e, maybe only 10-15 e. I've also walked from Sharks to near the main train station in 45 minutes, even closer if going to the Nord station.

Another option is staying at Hotel Contel that's on the same street as Sharks and hopping on the X15 bus from the Darmstadt -Rohm-Strasse bus stop across the street from the hotel. That's a simple one hour trip pretty much from the hotel door directly to the airport without having to even go to the station, transfer, or get in a taxi. Bus departs at 49-51 minutes past the hour and gets you there 10 minutes before the next hour. 5:50 am bus gets you there by 6:50. If staying at Dormero, it's only a 1.6 km direct walk to the same bus stop, all on a dedicated sidewalk. For comparison, it's a 1 km walk to Sharks from Dormero, so if you're not averse to walking a little and don't mind waiting at a bus stop rather than at a station, I don't see a logistical reason to stay anywhere else unless you want to explore beautiful Darmstadt.

By the way, can someone just sticky this post so we don't have to talk about logistics of Sharks to airport using public transport again? Hah!

Prelude141
05-25-24, 19:11
I must clarify to readers that the German forums, while providing names of girls providing horrible service for 100 or 150, does not mean that they are reporting 50 e rooms either.

But yeah, I get your proposal but consider that Sharks does not exist independently from other clubs. Girls working Frankfurt area clubs all charge the same. If Sharks cracks down and start blocking entry for girls, what stops them from just popping over to Oase or Palace? I mean, it's a hard call. Do you not risk losing your position as the king club of Hessen by sacrificing line up numbers, perhaps resulting in a slow deterioration of overall club quality. Or do nip it in the bud, control the girls, but risk losing your line up to other clubs?You are all dreaming. You are a small here of people who can't afford the price and constantly debate on how bad the situation is.

The truth is that business is not that bad at all and prices will never go down.

Think twice about it and go out of your home.

Bonsai
05-25-24, 20:13
You are all dreaming. You are a small here of people who can't afford the price and constantly debate on how bad the situation is.

The truth is that business is not that bad at all and prices will never go down.

Think twice about it and go out of your home.Your right, the business at shark isn't that bad for the club.

The club management is doing good job.

But the price is already falling.

I know some girls coming down from 200€/60 to 150€/60.

Not all but some.

PMunny
05-25-24, 22:46
First time in this club (afters years only going to the Frankfurt and Berlin clubs) and was completely overwhelmed when I first walked into the main area (around 3:30 pm). There were naked girls and guys everywhere!! It's so much bigger than Palace. A number of girls approached me before I'd even got to the bar to get a coke! Managed to fend them off, got my drink and went for a stroll around the club. There were girls everywhere, a lot were sitting in groups so it was hard to have a decent look at them all.

Took my time, walked around the grounds too as it was so sunny and warm. Bang on 5 pm nearly half the girls put their towels and headed to the restaurant for dinner but this thinned out the girls in the club so could get a better view. Spotted Toy-rah-an (or something like that, I asked her loads of times but could never quite hear what she wants saying, even in the quiet of the room). The ideal girl next door. She was sitting near the dance pole with the big mirror wall of the stairs to the rooms behind it (near the TV showing the FA Cup Final). She was stunningly beautiful, perfect face, eyes, perky see cup tits, ass and only 23! Only a couple of small tattoos on the inside of her arms, not great English. Should have suspected something was not right when she made me go to her when I made eye contact instead of her coming to me. Admitted she didn't kiss but that's fine with me. Went upstairs and everything was very mechanical, decent BBBJ with lots of eye contact (but she placed herself down between my legs, facing me) so there was no chance of groping her. Then when it came to licking her, she kept her legs very closed and only allowed me a little bit of access to the top part of her pussy. Then it was on with the red condom and a bit of grinding while also using her hand. Didn't last too long and was happy enough to get out of the room. 100 for 30 minutes Looks 10/10 session 4/10.

Decided to have dinner after that and was thinking about leaving but hung around and started standing near the games at the entrance. Seems to be a good spot as a number of girls came up and gave me hope for a second session. Moved around again and got a place on a couch when Anastasia came back again (having spoken to her earlier) and sat on my lap. She's blonde, 26, Romanian, fake boobs and lips. Which I don't really like. But great ass, lovely eyes and great personality and English. Only one small tattoo on her left wrist. My dick gave me the go ahead for a session with her. Agreed to an erotic massage, session and normal massage. Started off with lots of her rubbing her oily boobs all over my body, then a great BBBJ, after a while she changed position to spread her legs over my chest (allowing lots of fingering of her). When I said I was close to cunning she held off for a while and we chatted some more. Then on with the condom, lots of deep penetration and while I was groping her she said it was OK to finger her asshole! Didn't last too much longer. Then we talked some more and she gave me a fantastic ordinary massage, lots of oil and deep rubbing of my back, shoulders and neck. She then got me to massage her, back shoulders and hand (and didn't me rubbing and kissing her ass either). Really enjoyable hour. Looks 7/10 session 8/10. €200 for the hour (something I never normally bother doing with but she was worth it)!

Escape Artist
05-26-24, 03:36
You are all dreaming. You are a small here of people who can't afford the price and constantly debate on how bad the situation is.

The truth is that business is not that bad at all and prices will never go down.

Think twice about it and go out of your home.I agree that prices will likely not go down. Not many people even suggest that. The previous poster actually focused on the lack of quality service for the new asking prices. Criticizing people for not being able to afford it is a simplistic argument that borders on gaslighting as if that were actually the issue. It's a simple matter of fair value and preserving quality when so many like yourself are promoting acquiescence to behaviors that result in a mediocre product. I mean, when making criticism of people's finances, perhaps you should also think twice and consider that some spend on quality and others, perhaps yourself, are willing to pay more for garbage. The fact that you accept these prices at an FKK demonstrate lack of perspective of the mongering scene, particularly in Europe. I for one do not spend much on an average room at an FKK. Now when I find a great one, do I spend 5 hours in a room with her, yeah. Does she have the potential to earn thousands outside of the club with me? Yeah. Your perspective reflects a small narrow vision of what these prices mean in the backdrop of the greater scene. Consider how it makes sense for FKK girls to be charging more than the average private. Prior to covid, 100 per hour was the general rate in clubs. In privates, 150 was the going rate. Now 200 is the club rate while privates are 150-200. Make that make sense.

I was speaking with one local guy who is actually following your suggestion. Well, he used to be a weekly customer and told me that was the first visit for him this year. Where has be been going? The damn apartment buildings where he is in and out with 70 euros. On that night, he was sitting in Sharks regretting his decision because the quality was not better than at the venues outside of the train station.

The reality is written on the wall that there is a quality decline. Girls know that it is affecting their business. The ones who are not 19 and 20 know better and regularly express how bad business has been lately. Only a handful of girls are making good money and their time will pass when guys have tried them. Veteran girls know the value of repeat business and potential for long rooms. These new girls entering at 200 e rates don't have many clients taking them for 5 hours because most guys will not pay 1000 e for 5 hours with one girl. But back when it was 500 for 5 hours? The best girls would have a 5 hour client every single week! I think you should reevaluate your perspective instead of getting defensive that you're okay with being price gouged. It's not that guys expressing your point of view are too rich to care. It's that you don't want to feel like part of the problem.

Escape Artist
05-26-24, 03:44
Your right, the business at shark isn't that bad for the club.

The club management is doing good job.

But the price is already falling.

I know some girls coming down from 200/60 to 150/60.

Not all but some.Just only a week or so ago you made the claim that 80% of girls take 150 euro per hour. Was that incorrect or is that 80% now creeping up closer to 85-90% with these girls you claim to have lowered their prices. I mean it's a simple matter of math and logic versus inaccurate claims. Like I said many times, unless she knew me before, not a single girl I've discussed it with has taken 150 e for single hour with me since at least last summer.

Nyezhov
05-26-24, 04:51
Frankfurt airport is one of the faster ones, much more simple and fast than Paris-CDG or London Heathrow. I wouldn't want to cause anyone to miss their flight but I've found myself dropping off rental keys at 45 minutes before departure and still easily made my flight. Now that's with not checking bags, knowing the airport, and knowing how to pack as to not cause any delays at security. You know, proper travel etiquette. But that being said, 90 minutes is a nice no rush rule of thumb for me. But hey, if you have airport lounge access, getting there 4 hours early has its perks of being able to take in an hour or two to get that last meal and drink, giving you a moment to reflect on the awesome time you've had.

Driving in Germany is so easy ever since GPS. People follow the rules and aren't aggressive drivers unless you're doing something bonehead when they will not hesitate to express their disapproval of any incompetence or rule breaking. If there's a place to get back back comfortable with driving in traffic, it's in Germany while following an onscreen GPS. Apple Play is money.

Darmstadt's not a big town so you can get taxis from anywhere to the station for less than 20 e, maybe only 10-15 e. I've also walked from Sharks to near the main train station in 45 minutes, even closer if going to the Nord station.

Another option is staying at Hotel Contel that's on the same street as Sharks and hopping on the X15 bus from the Darmstadt -Rohm-Strasse bus stop across the street from the hotel. That's a simple one hour trip pretty much from the hotel door directly to the airport without having to even go to the station, transfer, or get in a taxi. Bus departs at 49-51 minutes past the hour and gets you there 10 minutes before the next hour. 5:50 am bus gets you there by 6:50. If staying at Dormero, it's only a 1.6 km direct walk to the same bus stop, all on a dedicated sidewalk. For comparison, it's a 1 km walk to Sharks from Dormero, so if you're not averse to walking a little and don't mind waiting at a bus stop rather than at a station, I don't see a logistical reason to stay anywhere else unless you want to explore beautiful Darmstadt.

By the way, can someone just sticky this post so we don't have to talk about logistics of Sharks to airport using public transport again? Hah!It should be stickied. I have walked from Dormero to Sharks and Darmstadt Nord to Sharks. Takes about 20-25 minutes. I'm going to look at the contel. Great info. I lost a lot of respect for the information that comes out on this forum because of the fact that its all buried amid rambling posts that say nothiong other than that the poster is distured. Thanks for good information in coherent English.

Sirioja
05-26-24, 07:31
Your right, the business at shark isn't that bad for the club.

The club management is doing good job.

But the price is already falling.

I know some girls coming down from 200/60 to 150/60.

Not all but some.I agree, since I discovered 10 years ago when Sharks was the last of big 5 , management made a lot of works, improving rooms, building chalets I love in garden and not my business, but I find pity many of their girls fuck their business. For the club, Sharks is far higher level than Globe and higher level than Wellcum, better rooms and garden for sex at Sharks, but I'm amazed when I'm told Katalea ask now 150/30 and also many others, when I got her much more fresh without heavy make up for 150/60 and she asked not to stop going with her. On the day, she arrived from Munchen escorting, Jasmin. De was so sophisticated sexy elegant, my dreamed profile. When she asked me what I like, she told me: In Munchen, it would be 400/60 , so I answered: I just arrive, driving from Paris, I return to Paris where I get escorts for 200/55 after they have orgasm. Jasmin told me: I like You, I will discount for You at 200 and I didn't need to control not to go to 1 hour and such fire in bed compare to Katalea small pussy. I did regret she lost her sophisticated sexy, Albanians at night should care more about drinking, so I didn't rush to return to her and she looked at me. Few months later, on beginning of 2023 , she asked me if I wanted to repeat and told: for You, 150 is Ok, we had few other fire intense fucking when she lost control rooms. Bad point was, when girls tell about us, her friend Janina kind of avoided her so kisser such fucker bad guy, but Jasmin. De always did welcome me for 150/60 when she was fast to orgasmus. Except Lora for her fresh supermodel look and fresh GFE, I didn't see any other worthing German escorts rate and I mean prettier ones than little Romanians at Sharks. Only tourist in mind with 0 knowledge can pay to be fucked like this. Same than at Globe, before You paid 260/60 for wow girls, Megan was in reserve be team for almost whole 2017 there and now You pay more than 300/60 for girls from Bundesliga 2 like little Romanians at Sharks, so I don't visit to be fucked, same like Sharks, when I have prettier for 150/60 for really full GFE til Russian blood, really real GFE with confidence. I would be really dumb to pay more expensive for lower quality. Oase girls understood too late how they fucked their business. Friday party was so slow on evening / night, girls hunting. I'm sure many girls in NRW working for half rate, make more money at the end of month and not making cellulite warming ass sitting whole day. I think many Sharks little Romanians should try Globe, when prettier girls I know told me: we know big money there, but we don't accept rules there, rules which kill freshness, even I remember superstar Finnish Ekaterina there, very professionnal but lovely and she gave a lot in sex, but looking at me with round eyes when I was working on her, for sure she never experienced before, when she was really busy and not anymore 18 . From my knowledge of this business, 150/60 should really be maximum for the prettiest who are able to give real GFE, not only few kiss and not able to suck or to fuck, when can still find with prettier than most at Sharks, for 100/120/60 . Or they can warm their ass, making cellulite, whole day, waiting for tourists to fuck and usually, the most expensive they ask, the less they give. With Jasmin. De, after our discovery, but not anymore same square hairstyle, I didn't ask her to repeat for 200/60 , she came proposing for 150/60, when she could stay drinking whole night with Albanians.

Saturn11
05-26-24, 07:57
Admitted she didn't kiss but that's fine with me. Went upstairs and everything was very mechanical, decent BBBJ with lots of eye contact (but she placed herself down between my legs, facing me) so there was no chance of groping her.Nice report, the position you describe is the exact one I want for a blowjob. If a girl does it from another angle I ask them to change and place herself between my legs. Almost all girls are fine with that, if you prefer from a different position it's worth asking.

Sirioja
05-26-24, 08:37
Nice report, the position you describe is the exact one I want for a blowjob. If a girl does it from another angle I ask them to change and place herself between my legs. Almost all girls are fine with that, if you prefer from a different position it's worth asking.When not many are mouth skillful or able to read your body reactions, when most WGs have low level for sex from their pimp and often boring, I often stop because I don t want to pay time for low level, or with princesses, I like to have them on their knees, like we played with Amira ex Samya and she played great, pushing on her head to make her taking whole monstro in her mouth always talking about money, softly of course. With my highest quality, Russian very woman who really want to please back her for weekly orgasmus client, I like when she press on me with her throat, but You can t expect this with Romanian schoolgirl types if You are not mini size. When I love very hot shower, funny how monstro grow under hot water, when he sleep when I ski.

Saturn11
05-26-24, 09:53
The club could take some short term pain (less entry fees) and refuse entry to a couple of girls asking ridiculous prices in exchange for abysmal service: make an example out of them.
The management do stop girls working there, I don't know the nature of the complaint but a girl got chucked out last year after a customer went to the manager to complain. Obviously if you agree 100/150 with a girl before you go in the room and then complain afterwards about the price you aren't going to get very far.

I was at the club last night and there were hardly any keys left and queues for the rooms, I think it's doing ok for business. I know weekends are much busier and it does seem quieter during the week than I remember but that seems to be true of almost all FKK clubs.

BobNSuzy
05-26-24, 16:44
Nice report, the position you describe is the exact one I want for a blowjob. If a girl does it from another angle I ask them to change and place herself between my legs. Almost all girls are fine with that, if you prefer from a different position it's worth asking.I like it standing up sometimes. Does that have a name? It is a little hard to get. I guess I could call it the glory hole position.

Saturn11
05-27-24, 10:10
Talking of blowjobs one thing I'd recommend when trying a new girl now is clarifying what type you'll get. BBBJ used to be so standard I never asked but last year I went to the room with Amy and she said you know it's extra for BJ without condom I said I knew it wasn't and she didn't charge me. I had Celine wanting an extra 50 as well for it so I always ask now.

Better to clarify outside the room, one of my regular girls said one of her customers went with a girl and she also wanted 50 euros extra for BBBJ and then wanted another 50 euros for kissing her breasts! He said he'd take her to the manager and she backed down. He was a local so probably easier for him to go to manager, it's something I've never done. I imagine conversations like that in the room are a bit of a mood killer so that's why I think it's best to clarify outside.

Yesterday I clarified the type of BJ from the girl, it wasn't to my tastes so I started walking away and then she changed what was on offer. I'm not a tough negotiator but it's easy for me to walk away in those circumstances as covered BJs are a waste of time.

I hope we don't get to a situation where clarifying if touching and kissing the breasts is ok, there was the story I mentioned about the girl wanting an extra 50 euros for it and I tried Gabi (Hungarian) who sits on the couches as you walk in, in the room I went to touch her breasts and she said it wasn't possible as she didn't like it. I really think if that's the case she should probably consider a career change.

P.S. Don't take the above as a reason not to visit, I still had a great time. Talking of the front coaches I tried Rachel for a 4th time and it was really good for me, easily the best of our 4 rooms, she looks great. Someone mentioned the girls that offer CIM are 10%, I think the percentage is higher but she's in that percentage.

BobNSuzy
05-27-24, 15:19
Talking of blowjobs one thing I'd recommend when trying a new girl now is clarifying what type you'll get. BBBJ used to be so standard I never asked but last year I went to the room with Amy and she said you know it's extra for BJ without condom I said I knew it wasn't and she didn't charge me. I had Celine wanting an extra 50 as well for it so I always ask now.

Better to clarify outside the room, one of my regular girls said one of her customers went with a girl and she also wanted 50 euros extra for BBBJ and then wanted another 50 euros for kissing her breasts! He said he'd take her to the manager and she backed down. He was a local so probably easier for him to go to manager, it's something I've never done. I imagine conversations like that in the room are a bit of a mood killer so that's why I think it's best to clarify outside.

Yesterday I clarified the type of BJ from the girl, it wasn't to my tastes so I started walking away and then she changed what was on offer. I'm not a tough negotiator but it's easy for me to walk away in those circumstances as covered BJs are a waste of time.

I hope we don't get to a situation where clarifying if touching and kissing the breasts is ok, there was the story I mentioned about the girl wanting an extra 50 euros for it and I tried Gabi (Hungarian) who sits on the couches as you walk in, in the room I went to touch her breasts and she said it wasn't possible as she didn't like it. I really think if that's the case she should probably consider a career change.

P.S. Don't take the above as a reason not to visit, I still had a great time. Talking of the front coaches I tried Rachel for a 4th time and it was really good for me, easily the best of our 4 rooms, she looks great. Someone mentioned the girls that offer CIM are 10%, I think the percentage is higher but she's in that percentage.I guess I am lucky that I don't care about BBBJ or BJs in general.

Frej Of Asgaard
05-27-24, 17:28
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The reality is written on the wall that there is a quality decline. Girls know that it is affecting their business. The ones who are not 19 and 20 know better and regularly express how bad business has been lately. Only a handful of girls are making good money and their time will pass when guys have tried them. Veteran girls know the value of repeat business and potential for long rooms. These new girls entering at 200 e rates don't have many clients taking them for 5 hours because most guys will not pay 1000 e for 5 hours with one girl. But back when it was 500 for 5 hours? The best girls would have a 5 hour client every single week!......I agree.

10 years ago there was a system in place in the clubs where you as a customer knew the price schedule per hour. And the prices for extras were fixed also. If the girls kissed it was either yes or no. But not affecting the price. And if the girls tried anything else then you as the buyer could go to the reception and complain. The reception could agree with you or not, but since the girls knew that too many complaints from too many customers would get them barred from future entries, then it kept them disciplined.

That fixed and known price system also meant that it was very easy to extend the time, and many of us repeat clients extended the time to many hours with favourite girls.

Now 50 euro per half hour as it was back 10 years ago is not really realistic today, because there have maybe been around 50% aggregated inflation since then. But that would make it 75 euro per half hour. In a way - 100 euro for the half hour and 150 euro for the hour is close to being inflation adjusted prices.

But now we cannot be sure that this is even the price. Some girls are even trying to ask for 150 euro for half an hour if it is to be "really good with kissing", and if you are new or a tourist you can be taken for a total ride with the prices. This is totally damaging to the clubs attraction to the male buyers, because people do communicate over the internet on forums etc.

And then the problem is that it is next to impossible to haggle the price down to something fair and then get a really good session right after.

But the "new" prostitution law in Germany which came before the Corona, made it illegal for the club to determine the prices.

I am now thinking that this little "innocent detail" is the most damaging thing to the long term business of both the club, the girls, and the men.

Because personally I really hate having to haggle or accept being cheated. Either way I loose something. I have some old regulars which does not do that with me, so I can go with them, but discovering new girls is really difficult. And I think that many other men feel the same, and then we vote with our feet and take our business elsewhere.

Prices has not increased as much for alternatives outside like privats or escorts for example. And there you will know the price up front. And with whatsapp or other videoapps the ability for verifying pictures has gone up greatly, so you can much better know what you get.

When I compare to prices here in Scandinavia, then 10 years ago, 1 hour at Sharks was way cheaper than 1 hour with a girl in private up here. But if girs want 200 EUR for an hour now at Sharks they are now almost as expensive as up here. But then comes entry costs and travel costs. It makes less and less sense for visitors coming from afar to Sharks I am afraid.

For the short term gain of the individual girl it unfortunately makes total sense to try and hike the prices, once a client has become interested, and now it is not even disallowed. But it makes the market fail in the longer term.

Maybe they should invent some kind of coloured armbands the girls can wear which could signal the different prices up front. Then they are allowed to decide their own prices, but they just have to tell up front before you start to converse with them.

Lubriderm69
05-27-24, 19:23
Correct. The club should start tracking customer satisfaction digitally using tracking if room entry and exit times with wristbands and keypad in the room, for quality of service rating, that the customer enters anonymously in a keypad, after the girls leave the room. The constant scamming and haggling would disappear overnight.


The club could take some short term pain (less entry fees) and refuse entry to a couple of girls asking ridiculous prices in exchange for abysmal service: make an example out of them. The German forum is full of names of girls who provide horrible service and try to charge 100 or even 150 Euros for 30 minutes. Of course the club isn't allowed to dictate prices or service levels, but at the same time the club has a right to refuse entry to anyone whom they 'think will not fit in with the rest of the visitors,' similar to how they (apparently) refuse entry to men who don't speak any English or German. Girls who give the club a bad reputation and-or ruin the experience for male visitors could perhaps be a valid reason to kick out some of the worst offenders? I'm pretty sure that a man who receives a lot of complaints from the ladies, staff, or other men (for example constantly harassing girls, try to blackmail them, try to steal money from them, or causing a fight or conflicts with other guests) could be refused entry. The legal concept of door policy is usually a very large grey area in most countries.

Ah yes, the good old days of Dina. Yeah Dina was nice, sexy, funny to talk to, and always provided excellent service. The only slight downside for me was her excessively fake and loud moaning, it's not really my thing, but after I jokingly said to her with a big smile "ssshhhhh Dinaaaa, you're waking everybody up!" during our second room together, she got the hint and was much quieter during subsequent rooms. No need to pay her 150 Euros, my rooms with her were usually 30 minute rooms for 50 Euros and they were a lot of fun. I genuinely hope she's doing well in retirement.

Sirioja
05-28-24, 04:43
Talking of blowjobs one thing I'd recommend when trying a new girl now is clarifying what type you'll get. BBBJ used to be so standard I never asked but last year I went to the room with Amy and she said you know it's extra for BJ without condom I said I knew it wasn't and she didn't charge me. I had Celine wanting an extra 50 as well for it so I always ask now.

Better to clarify outside the room, one of my regular girls said one of her customers went with a girl and she also wanted 50 euros extra for BBBJ and then wanted another 50 euros for kissing her breasts! He said he'd take her to the manager and she backed down. He was a local so probably easier for him to go to manager, it's something I've never done. I imagine conversations like that in the room are a bit of a mood killer so that's why I think it's best to clarify outside.

Yesterday I clarified the type of BJ from the girl, it wasn't to my tastes so I started walking away and then she changed what was on offer. I'm not a tough negotiator but it's easy for me to walk away in those circumstances as covered BJs are a waste of time.

I hope we don't get to a situation where clarifying if touching and kissing the breasts is ok, there was the story I mentioned about the girl wanting an extra 50 euros for it and I tried Gabi (Hungarian) who sits on the couches as you walk in, in the room I went to touch her breasts and she said it wasn't possible as she didn't like it. I really think if that's the case she should probably consider a career change.How is it possible to feel GFE, meaning feeling like with your GF, after such grocery, a real killing desire, when I m used to my girls coming to me asking: You want me? I want orgasmus, with 0 money talk. I think to give first try on 2024 , but I think I will play German: eating, drinking, and should go to a better value, 150/60 or less for full GFE, on next day, when I hate to pay to be fucked. Anyway, my pickiest eyes and brain will judge for images, when I don t find any attractive since a while at Globe, but I have elegant desirable who are so GFE with me, in Germany for 150/60+, so why to pay more expensive for lower quality.

Sirioja
05-28-24, 07:45
I agree.

10 years ago there was a system in place in the clubs where you as a customer knew the price schedule per hour. And the prices for extras were fixed also. If the girls kissed it was either yes or no. But not affecting the price. And if the girls tried anything else then you as the buyer could go to the reception and complain. The reception could agree with you or not, but since the girls knew that too many complaints from too many customers would get them barred from future entries, then it kept them disciplined.

That fixed and known price system also meant that it was very easy to extend the time, and many of us repeat clients extended the time to many hours with favourite girls.

Now 50 euro per half hour as it was back 10 years ago is not really realistic today, because there have maybe been around 50% aggregated inflation since then. But that would make it 75 euro per half hour. In a way - 100 euro for the half hour and 150 euro for the hour is close to being inflation adjusted prices.

But now we cannot be sure that this is even the price. Some girls are even trying to ask for 150 euro for half an hour if it is to be "really good with kissing", and if you are new or a tourist you can be taken for a total ride with the prices. This is totally damaging to the clubs attraction to the male buyers, because people do communicate over the internet on forums etc.

And then the problem is that it is next to impossible to haggle the price down to something fair and then get a really good session right after..When Sharks reopened after covid, on July 2021, I had many 100/60 GFE rooms and even with Daisi. De ex Palace. My best on 2021 was for 100/60 on our many rooms. Can t pay more expensive for little Romanians at Sharks than for German escorts, when only tourists will, or old Germans running schoolgirls.

Escape Artist
05-28-24, 12:16
Correct. The club should start tracking customer satisfaction digitally using tracking if room entry and exit times with wristbands and keypad in the room, for quality of service rating, that the customer enters anonymously in a keypad, after the girls leave the room. The constant scamming and haggling would disappear overnight.They do this at Welcum with a kiosk by the money lockers.

HappyTour
05-29-24, 06:00
Approximately 100-120 girls worked at Sharks Club over the weekend. However, around 8-9 pm, half of the rooms on the second floor were empty. This led me to estimate that about 80% of the girls hadn't earned enough to cover their entrance fees by that time.

However, we cannot deny that approximately eight to ten girls were getting business almost nonstop. Not because they charged less or due to lower rates, but because their beauty and / or service distinguished them as top providers in the club. They are undoubtedly very popular among both frequent visitors and tourists.

I knew seven of them and recently had rooms with six in the past four weeks. I'd like to share some information for your reference. If you don't like these girls, please ignore them and refrain from being judgmental.

Here is the list:

#7 - Roxy, Romanian, 26-27 yo.

All regular visitors are familiar with this exceptionally sweet girl. Despite being only 20 years old when she started at the club seven years ago, she quickly became a favorite among patrons, including myself and many others. On busy weekends, she would tirelessly attend to customers, going from room to room until well past midnight, often completing 10-12 sessions at least.

Visual attractiveness: 7/10; Service quality: 10/10.

#6 - Stacy, Moldovan, 21-22 yo. 163 cm?

As I mentioned in my previous posts, Stacy was in my top 2 favorites list last year, and she remains in my top list.

There's a little baby fat on her charmingly cute face. Having once lived in Russia, she said that Russian language is her native language. She is a college student and very intelligent to speak 3-4 European languages.

She always looks at her guests with aloofness, as if saying, "You can take my body, but you'll never have my soul and love. " However, she is highly popular among her regular customers; she rarely spends more than 10 minutes sitting at the bar before disappearing with one of her guest. Therefore, it's quite challenging for ordinary visitors to spot this beauty. And Stacy is very selective.

She only works on Wednesdays (or occasionally Thursdays if she doesn't come in on Wednesday) and weekends, from 3 pm to 11 pm. Even though she works for a short amount of time, she still earns significantly more than most of the girls in the club.

Visual attractiveness: 9/10; Service quality: 7/10.

#5 - Rachel or Rahel, Romanian, 20 yo. 163 cm.

Meet our new rising star-absolutely stunning and charming, and friendly too. She's been at the club for about six weeks since the end of April, and she's already achieved unbelievable success. Almost all frequent visitors know her, and tourists inquire about her. While she usually sits on the entrance couch, she never stays idle there for more than 5 minutes. Session after session, whether long or short, even on a very slow Monday evening when most girls were idle, She still could secured 12-15 sessions without too much effort.

Rachel is incredibly kind to me; every time she sees me, she comes over and hugs me. In those moments, I feel like I might be falling for her. We've already had more than six sessions together.

Visual attractiveness: 9/10; Service quality: 8/10.

#4 - Celine , Romanian, 20 yo. 164 cm.

If time were to turn back to high school days, Celine would surely be my homecoming queen. Celine, as well as Stacy, was in my top 2 favorites list last year, She is.

Celine possesses an unbelievably striking beauty with a youthful allure. Despite a few unknowns complaint about her service or pricing, she continues to be booked by her regular customers, some of whom engage in long sessions lasting 2-4 hours. Weekends are her busiest days, she almost fully booked. She typically arrives around 5 pm and departs before 2 am, often sitting with her best friends Rachel, Lina, and Esma on the entrance couches.

Since last year she joined Sharks, we've had over 20 sessions together. Now, I only accompany her when she requests it, particularly when her business is slow. I act as her white knight, spending 1-2 hours in the room to assist my princess, and she always provides me with her best service.

Visual attractiveness: 9/10, Service quality: 8.5 /10.

#3 - Paris, German girl, 22, yo. 170 cm.

I do my best to catch Paris, the most beautiful German girl I've seen in clubs for years. Paris is about 170 cm tall, with fair skin and no tattoos. Paris started 3-4 months ago. She appears sporadically, usually on Sundays or some Saturdays. She's always extremely busy. If you couldn't catch her right outside the ladies' dressing room, you probably wouldn't have a chance. I was lucky to catch her, even though she said someone was waiting for her. She could only talk to me for a short time. We introduced ourselves, and I promised I'd wait for her no matter how late it got. She also promised she would look for me whenever she was free.

However, I never saw her that night. A week after we first met, I saw Paris just walking out of the Damenumkleide. But I was already sitting with my little lover Celine and about to take her to a room. I didn't want to hurt Celine for Paris, so we missed each other again. Yet, Paris' face and smile stayed deeply in my mind. It had never happened before that a five-minute meeting would leave such a lasting impression on me.

Visual attractiveness: 9.5 /10, Service quality: could be 8/10?

#2 - Dilara / Delara, Romanian, 19-20 yo. 178 cm.

I have very complicated feelings about her. She is one of the most beautiful women I have ever seen in many years. We first met at Oase. Her name was Lorena. That night, I had already spent a significant amount of time with Nadia from Romania (although she claimed Ukrainian ethnicity) and her best friend Roberta. Then, I suddenly spotted this beauty. Compared to Lorena, Nadia was nothing more than a girl-next-door. Everyone says Nadia is the top girl at Oase, Yes it sounds true, but that's only if you haven't seen Lorena.

Dilara, who recently returned to Sharks a few days ago (she previously worked here from December to March), now occupies the corner couch that Cami used to sit. She is highly selective and aloof with customers. When she might feel tired, she would bluntly turn customers away. However, she is relatively friendly toward me. We've already had three sessions together, each one getting better, while I feel she could still improve. She might be moody, but how could customers not tolerate such a minor flaw given her stunning beauty? She charges customers like Kitty used to do, charging 100 for 30 minutes or 200 for 60 minutes, with an additional 50 euro if without a cover.

Dilara is more beautiful than Kitty, Catelea, Bibi, Chloe and Claudia. She's just as classy and elegant as Maria, Paris, and Spanish Ariana.

Visual attractiveness: 9.5 /10 , Service quality: 7/10.

Then who is the Number 1 in my heart?

#1 - Ariana Spanish girl, 22 yo. 165 cm.

I have to say, Spanish Ariana is the most intelligent and beautiful young lady in the club. She easily stands out among the Romanian girls. It's impossible to overlook such breathtaking beauty when she walks around the club.

Of course, most of the time you don't get the opportunity to see her walk around. Just like with Paris, you have to wait outside the Damenumkleide to catch and hold Ariana.

I adore her impeccable delicate appearance and bright big eyes. Her elegance and beauty far surpass even Kitty at her peak. Last year, I had one session with Ariana and ranked her fourth on my list. Recently, I've spent quite a lot of time with her. The more sessions we have, the more I like her. We also chat a lot inside the room, discussing topics ranging from artificial intelligence to the Spanish Civil War. If little lover Celine is like a kind of my high school girlfriend, then Ariana is more like a kind of soul mate to me. She could be a IT business woman if she lived in California. "Silicon Valley princes" is the role she should aspire to in her life. This is how I told her.

Visual attractiveness: 9.5 /10 , Service quality: 9.5 /10.

Steve 9696
05-29-24, 18:06
Absolutely great secret decoder ring for Sharks best girls. Sound like we have similar taste and I will take advantage of your insights. Thanks so much for your forum contribution. 🙏127995;.

Sirioja
05-29-24, 20:29
Approximately 100-120 girls worked at Sharks Club over the weekend. However, around 8-9 pm, half of the rooms on the second floor were empty. This led me to estimate that about 80% of the girls hadn't earned enough to cover their entrance fees by that time.

However, we cannot deny that approximately eight to ten girls were getting business almost nonstop. Not because they charged less or due to lower rates, but because their beauty and / or service distinguished them as top providers in the club. They are undoubtedly very popular among both frequent visitors and tourists.

I knew seven of them and recently had rooms with six in the past four weeks. I'd like to share some information for your reference. If you don't like these girls, please ignore them and refrain from being judgmental.

Here is the list:

#7 - Roxy, Romanian, 26-27 yo.

All regular visitors are familiar with this exceptionally sweet girl. Despite being only 20 years old when she started at the club seven years ago, she quickly became a favorite among patrons, including myself and many others. On busy weekends, she would tirelessly attend to customers, going from room to room until well past midnight, often completing 10-12 sessions at least.

Visual attractiveness: 7/10; Service quality: 10/10.

#6 - Stacy, Moldovan, 21-22 yo. 163 cm?

As I mentioned in my previous posts, Stacy was in my top 2 favorites list last year, and she remains in my top list.

There's a little baby fat on her charmingly cute face. Having once lived in Russia, she said that Russian language is her native language. She is a college student and very intelligent to speak 3-4 European languages.

She always looks at her guests with aloofness, as if saying, "You can take my body, but you'll never have my soul and love. " However, she is highly popular among her regular customers; she rarely spends more than 10 minutes sitting at the bar before disappearing with one of her guest. Therefore, it's quite challenging for ordinary visitors to spot this beauty. And Stacy is very selective.

She only works on Wednesdays (or occasionally Thursdays if she doesn't come in on Wednesday) and weekends, from 3 pm to 11 pm. Even though she works for a short amount of time, she still earns significantly more than most of the girls in the club.

Visual attractiveness: 9/10; Service quality: 7/10.

#5 - Rachel or Rahel, Romanian, 20 yo. 163 cm.

Meet our new rising star-absolutely stunning and charming, and friendly too. She's been at the club for about six weeks since the end of April, and she's already achieved unbelievable success. Almost all frequent visitors know her, and tourists inquire about her. While she usually sits on the entrance couch, she never stays idle there for more than 5 minutes. Session after session, whether long or short, even on a very slow Monday evening when most girls were idle, She still could secured 12-15 sessions without too much effort.You are lucky at Sharks, when You are not demanding for looks, when I never paid for Celine when she was more fresh and less expensive at Oase. Did You speak Russian with Stacy? When I love Russian girls, but won t pay for her look. When my french friend likes Ariana, but as I tell him: I never noticed her and her nose. My standard for look may be too high for Sharks now, same than at Globe.

Saturn11
05-29-24, 21:31
I would agree about Roxy being 10/10 for service. I know most people don't care about this sort of thing but she's also the nicest person I've ever met in any club.

If you don't mind me asking any reason Catalea didn't make your list? I thought you were a fan of hers.

GiuseppeTrigli
05-29-24, 23:18
Very very nice post.

This is as any post should be: a description of girls and performances.

My problem is that even if is more than 10 years I come regularly to the club I do not remember the girls name.

Perhaps I have to approach more girls.

I will go at Sharks 13,14, 15/6/2024: will anyone be present there?


Approximately 100-120 girls worked at Sharks Club over the weekend. However, around 8-9 pm, half of the rooms on the second floor were empty. This led me to estimate that about 80% of the girls hadn't earned enough to cover their entrance fees by that time.

However, we cannot deny that approximately eight to ten girls were getting business almost nonstop. Not because they charged less or due to lower rates, but because their beauty and / or service distinguished them as top providers in the club. They are undoubtedly very popular among both frequent visitors and tourists.

I knew seven of them and recently had rooms with six in the past four weeks. I'd like to share some information for your reference. If you don't like these girls, please ignore them and refrain from being judgmental.

Here is the list:

#7 - Roxy, Romanian, 26-27 yo.

All regular visitors are familiar with this exceptionally sweet girl. Despite being only 20 years old when she started at the club seven years ago, she quickly became a favorite among patrons, including myself and many others. On busy weekends, she would tirelessly attend to customers, going from room to room until well past midnight, often completing 10-12 sessions at least.

Visual attractiveness: 7/10; Service quality: 10/10.

#6 - Stacy, Moldovan, 21-22 yo. 163 cm?

As I mentioned in my previous posts, Stacy was in my top 2 favorites list last year, and she remains in my top list.

There's a little baby fat on her charmingly cute face. Having once lived in Russia, she said that Russian language is her native language. She is a college student and very intelligent to speak 3-4 European languages.

She always looks at her guests with aloofness, as if saying, "You can take my body, but you'll never have my soul and love. " However, she is highly popular among her regular customers; she rarely spends more than 10 minutes sitting at the bar before disappearing with one of her guest. Therefore, it's quite challenging for ordinary visitors to spot this beauty. And Stacy is very selective.

She only works on Wednesdays (or occasionally Thursdays if she doesn't come in on Wednesday) and weekends, from 3 pm to 11 pm. Even though she works for a short amount of time, she still earns significantly more than most of the girls in the club.

Visual attractiveness: 9/10; Service quality: 7/10.

#5 - Rachel or Rahel, Romanian, 20 yo. 163 cm.

Meet our new rising star-absolutely stunning and charming, and friendly too. She's been at the club for about six weeks since the end of April, and she's already achieved unbelievable success. Almost all frequent visitors know her, and tourists inquire about her. While she usually sits on the entrance couch, she never stays idle there for more than 5 minutes. Session after session, whether long or short, even on a very slow Monday evening when most girls were idle, She still could secured 12-15 sessions without too much effort.

Rachel is incredibly kind to me; every time she sees me, she comes over and hugs me. In those moments, I feel like I might be falling for her. We've already had more than six sessions together.

Visual attractiveness: 9/10; Service quality: 8/10.

#4 - Celine , Romanian, 20 yo. 164 cm.

If time were to turn back to high school days, Celine would surely be my homecoming queen. Celine, as well as Stacy, was in my top 2 favorites list last year, She is.

Celine possesses an unbelievably striking beauty with a youthful allure. Despite a few unknowns complaint about her service or pricing, she continues to be booked by her regular customers, some of whom engage in long sessions lasting 2-4 hours. Weekends are her busiest days, she almost fully booked. She typically arrives around 5 pm and departs before 2 am, often sitting with her best friends Rachel, Lina, and Esma on the entrance couches.

Since last year she joined Sharks, we've had over 20 sessions together. Now, I only accompany her when she requests it, particularly when her business is slow. I act as her white knight, spending 1-2 hours in the room to assist my princess, and she always provides me with her best service.

Visual attractiveness: 9/10, Service quality: 8.5 /10.

#3 - Paris, German girl, 22, yo. 170 cm.

I do my best to catch Paris, the most beautiful German girl I've seen in clubs for years. Paris is about 170 cm tall, with fair skin and no tattoos. Paris started 3-4 months ago. She appears sporadically, usually on Sundays or some Saturdays. She's always extremely busy. If you couldn't catch her right outside the ladies' dressing room, you probably wouldn't have a chance. I was lucky to catch her, even though she said someone was waiting for her. She could only talk to me for a short time. We introduced ourselves, and I promised I'd wait for her no matter how late it got. She also promised she would look for me whenever she was free.

However, I never saw her that night. A week after we first met, I saw Paris just walking out of the Damenumkleide. But I was already sitting with my little lover Celine and about to take her to a room. I didn't want to hurt Celine for Paris, so we missed each other again. Yet, Paris' face and smile stayed deeply in my mind. It had never happened before that a five-minute meeting would leave such a lasting impression on me.

Visual attractiveness: 9.5 /10, Service quality: could be 8/10?

#2 - Dilara / Delara, Romanian, 19-20 yo. 178 cm.

I have very complicated feelings about her. She is one of the most beautiful women I have ever seen in many years. We first met at Oase. Her name was Lorena. That night, I had already spent a significant amount of time with Nadia from Romania (although she claimed Ukrainian ethnicity) and her best friend Roberta. Then, I suddenly spotted this beauty. Compared to Lorena, Nadia was nothing more than a girl-next-door. Everyone says Nadia is the top girl at Oase, Yes it sounds true, but that's only if you haven't seen Lorena.

Dilara, who recently returned to Sharks a few days ago (she previously worked here from December to March), now occupies the corner couch that Cami used to sit. She is highly selective and aloof with customers. When she might feel tired, she would bluntly turn customers away. However, she is relatively friendly toward me. We've already had three sessions together, each one getting better, while I feel she could still improve. She might be moody, but how could customers not tolerate such a minor flaw given her stunning beauty? She charges customers like Kitty used to do, charging 100 for 30 minutes or 200 for 60 minutes, with an additional 50 euro if without a cover.

Dilara is more beautiful than Kitty, Catelea, Bibi, Chloe and Claudia. She's just as classy and elegant as Maria, Paris, and Spanish Ariana.

Visual attractiveness: 9.5 /10 , Service quality: 7/10.

Then who is the Number 1 in my heart?

#1 - Ariana Spanish girl, 22 yo. 165 cm.

I have to say, Spanish Ariana is the most intelligent and beautiful young lady in the club. She easily stands out among the Romanian girls. It's impossible to overlook such breathtaking beauty when she walks around the club.

Of course, most of the time you don't get the opportunity to see her walk around. Just like with Paris, you have to wait outside the Damenumkleide to catch and hold Ariana.

I adore her impeccable delicate appearance and bright big eyes. Her elegance and beauty far surpass even Kitty at her peak. Last year, I had one session with Ariana and ranked her fourth on my list. Recently, I've spent quite a lot of time with her. The more sessions we have, the more I like her. We also chat a lot inside the room, discussing topics ranging from artificial intelligence to the Spanish Civil War. If little lover Celine is like a kind of my high school girlfriend, then Ariana is more like a kind of soul mate to me. She could be a IT business woman if she lived in California. "Silicon Valley princes" is the role she should aspire to in her life. This is how I told her.

Visual attractiveness: 9.5 /10 , Service quality: 9.5 /10.

Escape Artist
05-29-24, 23:30
Absolutely great secret decoder ring for Sharks best girls. Sound like we have similar taste and I will take advantage of your insights. Thanks so much for your forum contribution. 🙏127995;.Understanding that, like so many topics here, these are quite subjective determinations. I do feel that the service scores were quite overly generous for people who actually find importance is service.

These number ratings must always consider subjective taste and preferences. Like this poster seems to be into young bubbly type. Classic Asian American preferences it seems. As such, it seems like the physical flaws seem to be forgiven and service does not seem to be weighted all that much. The personalities of the girls listed also seem to fall along the same that attracts the American. Overall, review would best serve club visitors new to the European WG scene, particularly reflecting the tastes and social norms of Americans who are looking to room with the same type of girls (qualities of) they found attractive during their high school or university years. The list is void of girls who are little more sassy in personality making me thing that a bulk of the line up was not even considered as cultural expectations selected for a subset of girls.

For instance, Celine is basically a FemBot and a notorious cock holder during penetration and is often described as an unskilled dead fish. Nine for her optics seems a bit generous, glaringly generous I think. I think for most mongers, a 9 would have already been overly generous when she was new and slim and before she put on at least 5 kgs on a very short frame. I would say the average monger would give her a mid 7 overall, 8 at best if you're polling guys who like the super young dumb blond archetype.

Rachele getting a 9 for optics seems to be quite a bit inflated too. Nice lower body for sure, absolutely perfect for my taste. But tits are young small tits, perhaps even a little oddly shaped. They're almost triangular. Bigger than mosquitos and smaller than Madonna cones. She has a cute face but not a beautiful one by any means, at least not classic beauty. I think her long blonde hair pulls attention away from an otherwise average face. For the average monger, I bet she would get a mid 7 face, 8 to mid 8 body, and mid 6 to mid 7 for service. Overall, if polled, I bet she would get mid 7 to 8.

Ariana, I think everyone would universally agree on her service being pretty great. Her optics seem to also be inflated though. She does grab initial attention, but when you look closer, she's a bit mundane appearing. The body is an average slim body for a 22 year old, nothing great, nothing striking. Face is a normal girl face. Personally I would say for the average monger, her optics would likely settle in the 8's maybe in high 7's if you truly judged her looks without considering her friendly and elegant attitude. I'm personally thinking high 7 or low 8 for optics. My suspicion with the super high service ratings however is that she's getting a half to a full extra point just because she talks a lot and has a western personality with western perspectives. Actual bedroom service for me, I would say is closer to 8 maybe mid 8. Overall if polled, I would guess her average for most guys would be mid 8. Guys mesmerized by her ability to converse about various topics I can see giving her a 9. But mid nine seems pretty far out there. That's saying she's one of the absolutely best of all time. Believe me, she's good but not anywhere close to the near perfection a 9. 5 optics and 9. 5 service would suggest.

I do agree that she's probably the best on the list though. But that is actually a very sad reality. Let's say that this list actually accurately reflects the actual consensus top 7 girls at Sharks. Is this really the premiere club with 200 e per hour brothel prices? Brothel, not privates, not escorts. 200 e brothel girls. Brothel girls who get fucked 10-15 times per day. I mean, I can make a comparative list of 7 from the line up at Penelope where the standard is 100 e per hour. It just reinforces my suspicion that people settling for lower quality at higher prices are contributing to FKK deterioration.

I'm looking at this situation and think about the guys, "dude, what are doing?" Why are you hyping up mediocrity.

Before I was never interested in paying for a girl outside the club. These days, I'm there to check the line up, find one or two girls and quickly transition to seeing the girl outside as the benefit of concentrating on one or two girls seem to be outweighing the benefits of trying many girls in the club.

HappyTour
05-30-24, 00:32
I planned to write another post explaining why Maria and Catelea are not in my current top seven list. Since some might be curious, I'll address it here.

Regarding Maria, I haven't seen her at the club during my visits over the past four weeks. My top seven list includes only those who are currently available, so Maria is excluded for this reason. If Maria were here, I would definitely rename my list as the 'Top Eight'. I would rate Maria's visual attractiveness as 9.5/10 and her service quality as 8/10. Her rank would be between Paris and Dilara.

Regarding why Catelea is not on the list either, the main reason is that she doesn't get business as consistently as the girls on the top seven list. Many times, she might sit idle at the side of the bar for hours, waiting for customers. However, I would still rate Catelea's visual attractiveness as 7-8/10 and her service quality as 8/10.

Sirioja
05-30-24, 03:09
I would agree about Roxy being 10/10 for service. I know most people don't care about this sort of thing but she's also the nicest person I've ever met in any club.

If you don't mind me asking any reason Catalea didn't make your list? I thought you were a fan of hers.Roxy was Miss Sharks 2022 , defeating Brenda and Katalea.

Sirioja
05-30-24, 08:59
I planned to write another post explaining why Maria and Catelea are not in my current top seven list. Since some might be curious, I'll address it here.

Regarding Maria, I haven't seen her at the club during my visits over the past four weeks. My top seven list includes only those who are currently available, so Maria is excluded for this reason. If Maria were here, I would definitely rename my list as the 'Top Eight'. I would rate Maria's visual attractiveness as 9.5/10 and her service quality as 8/10. Her rank would be between Paris and Dilara.

Regarding why Catelea is not on the list either, the main reason is that she doesn't get business as consistently as the girls on the top seven list. Many times, she might sit idle at the side of the bar for hours, waiting for customers. However, I would still rate Catelea's visual attractiveness as 7-8/10 and her service quality as 8/10.We really have different eyes, when Maria. Ukr body is nothing wow, but real fire, all is possible in bed with her if You make her cum. Even not as fresh face as when I got her weekly on 2021 , but I would still rank supermodel body Katalea far more attractive look than Stacy, Baylies, Celine, Roxy, but she is not a real GFE. She decided to lower her service, or maybe she was not anymore able, when her pussy seemed not anymore able for caucasian way sex, after only few months, when she was elected Miss 2021 mainly for her look when highest levels, defeating Brenda and Roxy, so quite normal she lost business, at least with regulars, when yes, I often saw her warming her ass sitting at the bar. I also saw Stacy waiting and smiling at the bar, but with my face and hair, I had enough girlfriends at school, fkissing for hours and I prefer close to normal woman looks than schoolgirls. Unfortunately for me, normal woman looks are quite rare at Sharks since German snow white on beginning of Summer 2023 , so I left many times full balls, not good for speed, when legendary Colin Chapman told light is fast, Lotus culture, on autobahns.

HappyTour
05-30-24, 17:25
Understanding that, like so many topics here, these are quite subjective determinations. . . Classic Asian American preferences it seems. .The taste and preferences regarding what kind of girls one likes are definitely subjective. In spite of this fact, we can still identify the best group of girls from a large crowd through comparison and some relatively objective perspective and criteria.

However, we find that some unknown posters always fail to provide useful information of girls but are enthusiastic about finding fault with others' reports, akin to picking bones out of an egg.

Given the possibility that the poster might be Asian American, it's likely he is familiar with the East Asian proverb: "Some people declare the grapes to be sour merely because they cannot afford to have them. ".

Even if he is an Asian American, he couldn't possibly represent all Asian Americans, making it unsuitable to assert that girls in my top list are classic Asian American preferences.

For instance, the girls in my list are not primarily sought after by Asian American customers. Their main clientele consists of locals or Europeans. Certainly, based on my report, it's anticipated that there will be an increase in the number of Asians / Americans seeking girls from my top list. But you still can not say these seven girls represent classic Asian American preferences.

The true Asian hunters are Melanie, Emma, Simona, Mara, Juliana, Vanessa, Kathleen, Betty (the older one), Alina, Branda, and Kitty. Therefore, Escape Artist could readily declare that these girls cater to Asian American preferences and tastes. I don't imply whether they are good or not; they just simply aren't included in my top list.

Jfht65
05-30-24, 21:14
Approximately 100-120 girls worked at Sharks Club over the weekend. However, around 8-9 pm, half of the rooms on the second floor were empty. This led me to estimate that about 80% of the girls hadn't earned enough to cover their entrance fees by that time.

However, we cannot deny that approximately eight to ten girls were getting business almost nonstop. Not because they charged less or due to lower rates, but because their beauty and / or service distinguished them as top providers in the club. They are undoubtedly very popular among both frequent visitors and tourists.

I knew seven of them and recently had rooms with six in the past four weeks. I'd like to share some information for your reference. If you don't like these girls, please ignore them and refrain from being judgmental..Oh Stacy, I love her so much. She is such a beautiful and stunning girl, but a little bit too short for me unfortunately. Once I spent several hours with her. As far as I know she is not a college student anymore. Did she tell you she is currently studying? What do you mean she is very selective? I don't remember that she rejected anybody. I saw a Japanese guy who visits only Stacy at he club almost daily and I can't say that he is attractive, but of course it would be difficult to deserve her love, I saw a photo with Stacy and her ex-boyfriend and he is pretty handsome guy.

Saturn11
05-31-24, 14:37
The true Asian hunters are Melanie, Emma, Simona, Mara, Juliana, Vanessa, Kathleen, Betty (the older one), Alina, Branda, and Kitty.I wouldn't put Alina in that list, normally I see her sat towards the back with Sabrina and her regular customers come to her.

Escape Artist
06-01-24, 01:32
The taste and preferences regarding what kind of girls one likes are definitely subjective. In spite of this fact, we can still identify the best group of girls from a large crowd through comparison and some relatively objective perspective and criteria.

However, we find that some unknown posters always fail to provide useful information of girls but are enthusiastic about finding fault with others' reports, akin to picking bones out of an egg.

Given the possibility that the poster might be Asian American, it's likely he is familiar with the East Asian proverb: "Some people declare the grapes to be sour merely because they cannot afford to have them. ".

Even if he is an Asian American, he couldn't possibly represent all Asian Americans, making it unsuitable to assert that girls in my top list are classic Asian American preferences.

For instance, the girls in my list are not primarily sought after by Asian American customers. Their main clientele consists of locals or Europeans. Certainly, based on my report, it's anticipated that there will be an increase in the number of Asians / Americans seeking girls from my top list. But you still can not say these seven girls represent classic Asian American preferences.

The true Asian hunters are Melanie, Emma, Simona, Mara, Juliana, Vanessa, Kathleen, Betty (the older one), Alina, Branda, and Kitty. Therefore, Escape Artist could readily declare that these girls cater to Asian American preferences and tastes. I don't imply whether they are good or not; they just simply aren't included in my top list.One of the worst rationalizations of the people who helped create the poor situation is the "can't afford it" crowd. Pretty much any American who regularly travels to Europe for hookers can afford it.

An even more irrelevant argument is the statement that a classic representation cannot represent all, an example of the use of the all or none logical fallacy. The word "classic" pretty much negates the rebuttal as not all is obviously inherent, or else the word "all" would have been used and not specifically classic.

The use of several older and fatter former Asian hunters seems out of place as Asian hunting has no role in this assessment as the verbage was Asian preferences. Girls like Emma and Melanie can hunt Asians all they want but they're not getting them since they've grown a bit too large to fall under the umbrella of classic Asian American preferences. Several of the teenie bopper girls listed however are exactly that type.

Ariana, Rachele, and Celine were all super popular with the Asian clients on my most recent visits. Celine less so because she's fat now.

I feel sorry for the guys who take the listing rating seriously, particularly the service ratings from a poster who has already stated that he does not care about service anymore.

Rocko20
06-01-24, 12:24
One of the worst rationalizations of the people who helped create the poor situation is the "can't afford it" crowd. Pretty much any American who regularly travels to Europe for hookers can afford it.
I disagree with this. If one refuses to see a WG based solely on price, and not on anything else, then one can't afford it. A billionaire isn't going to complain about price, and most mongers are not billionaires.

The point is there is a limit to how much someone can afford: its how much they are willing to pay. Ofcourse they have the money, that doest mean theyre willing to pay above a certain amount of that money. Otherwise, prostitution prices would be out of control even worse than today because people would just be giving Brenda 1000 euros an hour.

Just because I have x amount of money, doesnt mean I can afford x amount of women, because it could be above what Im willing to pay. And if Im not willing to pay it, despite more than having the money in my bank account, it means I cant afford it.

There are limits (aka affordability) to what the average monger is willing to pay for pussy, and when a WG crosses that threshold, her customer base decreases.

The Cane
06-01-24, 13:41
I disagree with this. If one refuses to see a WG based solely on price, and not on anything else, then one can't afford it. A billionaire isn't going to complain about price, and most mongers are not billionaires.

The point is there is a limit to how much someone can afford: its how much they are willing to pay. Ofcourse they have the money, that doest mean theyre willing to pay above a certain amount of that money. Otherwise, prostitution prices would be out of control even worse than today because people would just be giving Brenda 1000 euros an hour.

Just because I have x amount of money, doesnt mean I can afford x amount of women, because it could be above what Im willing to pay. And if Im not willing to pay it, despite more than having the money in my bank account, it means I cant afford it.

There are limits (aka affordability) to what the average monger is willing to pay for pussy, and when a WG crosses that threshold, her customer base decreases.Although it is true that just because one has the money doesn't mean that one can afford to spend that money on a particular good or service, it doesn't logically follow that balking at spending the money due to the price always equates to not being able to afford it. There have been plenty of times I have chosen not to go with a girl (or even to a particular country) based solely on price. Maybe it was because I thought she was trying to rip me off, or that there just wasn't enough value in what was being offered for the price. I had the money and could have easily afforded it, but I chose not to buy as a matter of principle.

I have the money to monger in places like Switzerland and the United Arab Emirates, but I choose not to return to those destinations not because I can't afford it, but because I know I can find exactly what I want in other places like Germany and Brazil at much more favorable pricing bringing me greater value for spending that money. Declining to spend based 100% on the price absolutely does not always mean one can't afford what's on offer.

It could be that one is an informed consumer and is being smart with their money by looking for the right set of circumstances that brings them the value they seek. They may be well attuned to what a fair price ought to be for the goods or services sought, or even a "hard bargainer" by nature, and won't allow themselves to be gouged or ripped off or just determined to get it on their terms, whether they can afford to pay what's being asked or not. Some people are like that. There are lots of sensible reasons for why people decline to pay a particular price for something other than "I can't afford it". People don't get to be rich by always agreeing to pay the price asked without question just because they can. Wealthy people are often watching their bottom lines closer than anybody else! Believe this.

Rocko20
06-01-24, 17:51
It could be that one is an informed consumer and is being smart with their money by looking for the right set of circumstances that brings them the value they seek. They may be well attuned to what a fair price ought to be for the goods or services sought, or even a "hard bargainer" by nature, and won't allow themselves to be gouged or ripped off or just determined to get it on their terms, whether they can afford to pay what's being asked or not. Some people are like that. There are lots of sensible reasons for why people decline to pay a particular price for something other than "I can't afford it". People don't get to be rich by always agreeing to pay the price asked without question just because they can. Wealthy people are often watching their bottom lines closer than anybody else! Believe this.But not being able to afford something, is not an insult or a bad argument or a bad reason, it's reality. There's a fine line between affordability and unaffordability (or cheap and expensive) for many mongers. Many of the mongers sitting in the front of Sharks every day are elderly pensioners who rarely go to a room with a WG because "they can't afford it." In Thailand, the expat pensioners don't get WGs from the top brothels, because "they can't afford it," they get the street walkers. I've mongered in Dubai, there are men who won't walk into brothels because they're not willing to pay the $60 cover charge to get in (the place is called Red Square) because "they can't afford it. "

Furthermore, the terms "ripped off" or "gouged" are also not insults because they're subjective on who you ask. In Dubai, the going rate for an hour with a Russian is $272. Mongers who go to Thailand, Brazil, or the Dominican Republic would scoff at that. They would laugh at anyone going to Dubai and chalk it up as a “ripoff” or “gouge.”

But the point is that "I can't afford that" is a valid logical reason. Many mongers simply cannot afford certain prices and there is nothing wrong with that. Just ask the elderly pensioners in front of Sharks why they never go to a room.

HappyTour
06-01-24, 23:22
#8 - New Betty, Romanian, 20 yo. 170 cm.

Here, I introduce a beautiful newcomer: Betty. .

Many sharks regular visitors might scoff at this point. Isn't Betty that middle-aged woman who has been working for 8 years, isn't new or attractive, and has gained a lot of weight, notorious as an Asian hunter?

Not in that case.

New Betty is 20 yo slender Romanian girl.

One early evening I was waiting for Ariana, I didn't know at that moment that she was booked by an American guy for very long session. After stay idle for very long time, I decided to find new target.

While getting food in the dining room, I suddenly noticed a girl whose back looked very much like Ariana, the only difference being that she was wearing a short instead of thongs.

I thought it was Ariana, so I called out her name. When the girl turned around, to my surprise, it wasn't Ariana. However, I was shocked to see that she was a young girl who was almost as beautiful and lovely as Ariana. Stunning beauty! Very young, white skin, almost No tattoo.

We then sat down together for dinner, and she told me her name was Betty. She has been at Sharks for 2 months. Previously, she worked at Samya and Oase for just a couple of months. I intentionally put on a surprised expression and said, "I heard the Betty here is a middle-aged overweight woman. I didn't expect it to be such a young, beautiful, and slender girl like you. " She gave me a playful pat and said, "You are so funny. ".

I told her that I would take her to the room for one hour. After I brushed my teeth, we walked towards the stairs. She suddenly stopped me and asked if I knew the price. I pretended to be surprised and said, "Then you tell me. " She said 200/ hour. I said OWO should be included in that. She said yes.

In the room, New Betty is exceptionally friendly and agreeable. In terms of service, I must say she is better than a novice. Of course, I care more about her appearance. New Betty seems to mirror Ariana to some extent, and she doesn't smoke cigarettes either. Now new Betty serves as a substitute for Ariana in my view when Ariana is absent from the club.

More and more people are identifying this gem. New Betty has become busy now.

Visual attractiveness: 9/10; Service quality: 7-8/10.

Escape Artist
06-02-24, 01:21
I disagree with this. If one refuses to see a WG based solely on price, and not on anything else, then one can't afford it. A billionaire isn't going to complain about price, and most mongers are not billionaires.

The point is there is a limit to how much someone can afford: its how much they are willing to pay. Ofcourse they have the money, that doest mean theyre willing to pay above a certain amount of that money. Otherwise, prostitution prices would be out of control even worse than today because people would just be giving Brenda 1000 euros an hour.

Just because I have x amount of money, doesnt mean I can afford x amount of women, because it could be above what Im willing to pay. And if Im not willing to pay it, despite more than having the money in my bank account, it means I cant afford it.

There are limits (aka affordability) to what the average monger is willing to pay for pussy, and when a WG crosses that threshold, her customer base decreases.Not sure what the main point is as we seem to be in agreement that not being to afford and not willing are two different things. Unless someone is spending all of their money on the hobby, most mongers can afford 5 one hour rooms for 1000 e.

What is certainly of more significance is your recognition of the difference between not willing versus can't. The point is that the ridiculous assertion that inflation perpetrators use such a gaslighting argument to rationalize their role.

Regardless of the details, it is even more significant that the locals themselves are no longer attending, at least not the locals who kept prices down and quality up. Go to Sharks these days and you see significantly less older Germans. There are a lot more 100 e non-German locals and just less rooms being take over all.

The guys protecting their egos with faulty arguments of "can't afford" are doing no one any service.

Escape Artist
06-02-24, 01:31
But the point is that "I can't afford that" is a valid logical reason. Many mongers simply cannot afford certain prices and there is nothing wrong with that. Just ask the elderly pensioners in front of Sharks why they never go to a room.A bit off track, as there are certainly people who actually can't afford it. Or their spending habits in the clubs changed due to the price hikes because they couldn't afford their prior room counts or room times. Even the main perpetuator of this argument has admitted to changing his room counts due to the price hikes.

The point the entire time has been that a few posters attempt detract from their role in club deterioration by gaslighting the people who criticize them for their role in the price hikes by using this ridiculous douchebag argument one would hear coming from a junior finance bro with a half a million dollars of debt.

GiuseppeTrigli
06-03-24, 01:22
Hi,

Thank you for the report.

Can you give more indications for finding the girls? More details so that I can recognise them?

I will be at Sharks in two weeks.

Thank you.


Approximately 100-120 girls worked at Sharks Club over the weekend. However, around 8-9 pm, half of the rooms on the second floor were empty. This led me to estimate that about 80% of the girls hadn't earned enough to cover their entrance fees by that time.

However, we cannot deny that approximately eight to ten girls were getting business almost nonstop. Not because they charged less or due to lower rates, but because their beauty and / or service distinguished them as top providers in the club. They are undoubtedly very popular among both frequent visitors and tourists.

I knew seven of them and recently had rooms with six in the past four weeks. I'd like to share some information for your reference. If you don't like these girls, please ignore them and refrain from being judgmental.

Here is the list:

#7 - Roxy, Romanian, 26-27 yo.

All regular visitors are familiar with this exceptionally sweet girl. Despite being only 20 years old when she started at the club seven years ago, she quickly became a favorite among patrons, including myself and many others. On busy weekends, she would tirelessly attend to customers, going from room to room until well past midnight, often completing 10-12 sessions at least.

Visual attractiveness: 7/10; Service quality: 10/10.

#6 - Stacy, Moldovan, 21-22 yo. 163 cm?

As I mentioned in my previous posts, Stacy was in my top 2 favorites list last year, and she remains in my top list.

There's a little baby fat on her charmingly cute face. Having once lived in Russia, she said that Russian language is her native language. She is a college student and very intelligent to speak 3-4 European languages.

She always looks at her guests with aloofness, as if saying, "You can take my body, but you'll never have my soul and love. " However, she is highly popular among her regular customers; she rarely spends more than 10 minutes sitting at the bar before disappearing with one of her guest. Therefore, it's quite challenging for ordinary visitors to spot this beauty. And Stacy is very selective.

She only works on Wednesdays (or occasionally Thursdays if she doesn't come in on Wednesday) and weekends, from 3 pm to 11 pm. Even though she works for a short amount of time, she still earns significantly more than most of the girls in the club.

Visual attractiveness: 9/10; Service quality: 7/10.

#5 - Rachel or Rahel, Romanian, 20 yo. 163 cm.

Meet our new rising star-absolutely stunning and charming, and friendly too. She's been at the club for about six weeks since the end of April, and she's already achieved unbelievable success. Almost all frequent visitors know her, and tourists inquire about her. While she usually sits on the entrance couch, she never stays idle there for more than 5 minutes. Session after session, whether long or short, even on a very slow Monday evening when most girls were idle, She still could secured 12-15 sessions without too much effort.

Rachel is incredibly kind to me; every time she sees me, she comes over and hugs me. In those moments, I feel like I might be falling for her. We've already had more than six sessions together.

Visual attractiveness: 9/10; Service quality: 8/10.

#4 - Celine , Romanian, 20 yo. 164 cm.

If time were to turn back to high school days, Celine would surely be my homecoming queen. Celine, as well as Stacy, was in my top 2 favorites list last year, She is.

Celine possesses an unbelievably striking beauty with a youthful allure. Despite a few unknowns complaint about her service or pricing, she continues to be booked by her regular customers, some of whom engage in long sessions lasting 2-4 hours. Weekends are her busiest days, she almost fully booked. She typically arrives around 5 pm and departs before 2 am, often sitting with her best friends Rachel, Lina, and Esma on the entrance couches.

Since last year she joined Sharks, we've had over 20 sessions together. Now, I only accompany her when she requests it, particularly when her business is slow. I act as her white knight, spending 1-2 hours in the room to assist my princess, and she always provides me with her best service.

Visual attractiveness: 9/10, Service quality: 8.5 /10.

#3 - Paris, German girl, 22, yo. 170 cm.

I do my best to catch Paris, the most beautiful German girl I've seen in clubs for years. Paris is about 170 cm tall, with fair skin and no tattoos. Paris started 3-4 months ago. She appears sporadically, usually on Sundays or some Saturdays. She's always extremely busy. If you couldn't catch her right outside the ladies' dressing room, you probably wouldn't have a chance. I was lucky to catch her, even though she said someone was waiting for her. She could only talk to me for a short time. We introduced ourselves, and I promised I'd wait for her no matter how late it got. She also promised she would look for me whenever she was free.

However, I never saw her that night. A week after we first met, I saw Paris just walking out of the Damenumkleide. But I was already sitting with my little lover Celine and about to take her to a room. I didn't want to hurt Celine for Paris, so we missed each other again. Yet, Paris' face and smile stayed deeply in my mind. It had never happened before that a five-minute meeting would leave such a lasting impression on me.

Visual attractiveness: 9.5 /10, Service quality: could be 8/10?

#2 - Dilara / Delara, Romanian, 19-20 yo. 178 cm.

I have very complicated feelings about her. She is one of the most beautiful women I have ever seen in many years. We first met at Oase. Her name was Lorena. That night, I had already spent a significant amount of time with Nadia from Romania (although she claimed Ukrainian ethnicity) and her best friend Roberta. Then, I suddenly spotted this beauty. Compared to Lorena, Nadia was nothing more than a girl-next-door. Everyone says Nadia is the top girl at Oase, Yes it sounds true, but that's only if you haven't seen Lorena.

Dilara, who recently returned to Sharks a few days ago (she previously worked here from December to March), now occupies the corner couch that Cami used to sit. She is highly selective and aloof with customers. When she might feel tired, she would bluntly turn customers away. However, she is relatively friendly toward me. We've already had three sessions together, each one getting better, while I feel she could still improve. She might be moody, but how could customers not tolerate such a minor flaw given her stunning beauty? She charges customers like Kitty used to do, charging 100 for 30 minutes or 200 for 60 minutes, with an additional 50 euro if without a cover.

Dilara is more beautiful than Kitty, Catelea, Bibi, Chloe and Claudia. She's just as classy and elegant as Maria, Paris, and Spanish Ariana.

Visual attractiveness: 9.5 /10 , Service quality: 7/10.

Then who is the Number 1 in my heart?

#1 - Ariana Spanish girl, 22 yo. 165 cm.

I have to say, Spanish Ariana is the most intelligent and beautiful young lady in the club. She easily stands out among the Romanian girls. It's impossible to overlook such breathtaking beauty when she walks around the club.

Of course, most of the time you don't get the opportunity to see her walk around. Just like with Paris, you have to wait outside the Damenumkleide to catch and hold Ariana.

I adore her impeccable delicate appearance and bright big eyes. Her elegance and beauty far surpass even Kitty at her peak. Last year, I had one session with Ariana and ranked her fourth on my list. Recently, I've spent quite a lot of time with her. The more sessions we have, the more I like her. We also chat a lot inside the room, discussing topics ranging from artificial intelligence to the Spanish Civil War. If little lover Celine is like a kind of my high school girlfriend, then Ariana is more like a kind of soul mate to me. She could be a IT business woman if she lived in California. "Silicon Valley princes" is the role she should aspire to in her life. This is how I told her.

Visual attractiveness: 9.5 /10 , Service quality: 9.5 /10.

HappyTour
06-03-24, 03:39
Hi,Thank you for the report.Can you give more indications for finding the girls? More details so that I can recognise them?I will be at Sharks in two weeks.
Thank you.Since Escape Artist strongly disagrees that the girls in the list are the top ones, please ask him to provide a better list.



I feel sorry for the guys who take the listing rating seriously, particularly the service ratings. ..

Sirioja
06-03-24, 08:24
#8 - New Betty, Romanian, 20 yo. 170 cm.

Here, I introduce a beautiful newcomer: Betty. .

Many sharks regular visitors might scoff at this point. Isn't Betty that middle-aged woman who has been working for 8 years, isn't new or attractive, and has gained a lot of weight, notorious as an Asian hunter?

Not in that case.

New Betty is 20 yo slender Romanian girl.

One early evening I was waiting for Ariana, I didn't know at that moment that she was booked by an American guy for very long session. After stay idle for very long time, I decided to find new target.

While getting food in the dining room, I suddenly noticed a girl whose back looked very much like Ariana, the only difference being that she was wearing a short instead of thongs.

I thought it was Ariana, so I called out her name. When the girl turned around, to my surprise, it wasn't Ariana. However, I was shocked to see that she was a young girl who was almost as beautiful and lovely as Ariana. Stunning beauty! Very young, white skin, almost No tattoo.

We then sat down together for dinner, and she told me her name was Betty. She has been at Sharks for 2 months. Previously, she worked at Samya and Oase for just a couple of months. I intentionally put on a surprised expression and said, "I heard the Betty here is a middle-aged overweight woman. I didn't expect it to be such a young, beautiful, and slender girl like you. " She gave me a playful pat and said, "You are so funny. ".

I told her that I would take her to the room for one hour. After I brushed my teeth, we walked towards the stairs. She suddenly stopped me and asked if I knew the price. I pretended to be surprised and said, "Then you tell me. " She said 200/ hour. I said OWO should be included in that. She said yes.

In the room, New Betty is exceptionally friendly and agreeable. In terms of service, I must say she is better than a novice. Of course, I care more about her appearance. New Betty seems to mirror Ariana to some extent, and she doesn't smoke cigarettes either. Now new Betty serves as a substitute for Ariana in my view when Ariana is absent from the club.

More and more people are identifying this gem. New Betty has become busy now.

Visual attractiveness: 9/10; Service quality: 7-8/10.You had to ask for OWO for 200/60 ? Really amazing. I m surprised You didn t notice milky skin full natural Rosella who seems more fresh than Celine or Rachel for me. I chose to judge Sharks casting on Friday 31 May, thinking girls would be back from Easter and know guys just got paid. Seemed quite slow business when I arrived at 7 pm, Celine was not busy, Brenda waiting at the bar, Roxy turning around, wearing fishnet. Quite average foods, You took best shower told me a German, no wow for my pickiest eyes and brain. A little blond staying on entry, also not busy, was very smiling and welcoming, introducing herself as Rachel, asking for room, cute little Romanian but no wow to pay for, Rosella is sexier for me, but I need more attractive and woman image to feel desire. I saw some girls from Oase, a tall one who was sexier on previous Friday at Oase party. I stayed 10 hours, didn t feel desire, I must be too picky for Sharks casting when not impressed despite quantity, except maybe for 1 image I saw. I was happy to see Tara who may be higher level for BJ than Sylvana. No Sena nor Sabina nor Katalea nor Stacy seen, not 100% sure for Stacy. I easily felt desire at my best quality GG on Saturday, my Russian woman with highest potential for fucking, telling: You gave me good service, after her pleasure, offering me at chocolate, as I told her: like with a dog who made good job. Sex with her is great, no too big, too hard and I know her spots, since our more than 15 hours. But 1 hour of high level with her cost same than 30 mn with a little Romanian at Sharks, even I understood rate could be different for different guys at Sharks.

Sirioja
06-03-24, 08:28
Hi,

Thank you for the report.

Can you give more indications for finding the girls? More details so that I can recognise them?

I will be at Sharks in two weeks.

Thank you.When I was not impressed by casting on Friday and had 0 room, better to use your eyes, when mine must be too picky.

Sirioja
06-03-24, 21:27
Since Escape Artist strongly disagrees that the girls in the list are the top ones, please ask him to provide a better list.But he goes with almost same than you. If I really understand english, I think he paid 200/60 for short with big nose Ariana, not so different than you, when I was not interested for 100 with Rachel, when smiling cute, but not enough for my desire, when I need so much more.

Escape Artist
06-03-24, 23:48
Since Escape Artist strongly disagrees that the girls in the list are the top ones, please ask him to provide a better list.Wrong. Clearly the quote didn't say anything about the top girls. I specifically criticized the inflated ratings of someone judiciously throwing out 9 and 9. 5 and how that would leave people who took those numbers to heart.

For others with rational rating scales, imagine someone coming to Sharks looking for the 9 optics. Most would never find a girl on that list. They would spend all day looking for these supposed beautiful women. And if they go in the room expecting a 9 service, double disappointment. That'the why it's a shit list. Setting up guys for failure telling mongers to go find Celine who is a 9 optics and provides 8. 5 service. Geez, she's universally know for starfish, stops you from deep penetration service. And Arianna, while providing great service, a 9. 5 is laughable. And a 9. 5 for her run of the mill college girl looks? Yikes.

Basically, take that list and subtract 1 point from every girl and perhaps it becomes reasonable. But the fact that it was written the way it was, this just reinforce my stance that while the girls are overcharging, the guys happily paying are also responsible for lowering standards and expectations. Normalizing some above average girls to the tier of elite is justification of paying a lot for less in return.

Always Randy
06-04-24, 00:48
Dilara, who recently returned to Sharks a few days ago (she previously worked here from December to March), now occupies the corner couch that Cami used to sit.Does Cami still work there? She was a real sweetheart with those pig tails. Any one know which days she works? I remember her walking around the club a lot looking for her next customer. Where does she normally sit now?

Pessimist
06-04-24, 03:58
Wrong. Clearly the quote didn't say anything about the top girls. I specifically criticized the inflated ratings of someone judiciously throwing out 9 and 9. 5 and how that would leave people who took those numbers to heart.

For others with rational rating scales, imagine someone coming to Sharks looking for the 9 optics. Most would never find a girl on that list. They would spend all day looking for these supposed beautiful women. And if they go in the room expecting a 9 service, double disappointment. That'the why it's a shit list. Setting up guys for failure telling mongers to go find Celine who is a 9 optics and provides 8. 5 service. Geez, she's universally know for starfish, stops you from deep penetration service. And Arianna, while providing great service, a 9. 5 is laughable. And a 9. 5 for her run of the mill college girl looks? Yikes.

Basically, take that list and subtract 1 point from every girl and perhaps it becomes reasonable. But the fact that it was written the way it was, this just reinforce my stance that while the girls are overcharging, the guys happily paying are also responsible for lowering standards and expectations. Normalizing some above average girls to the tier of elite is justification of paying a lot for less in return.Laughable. That other dude called the bluff of this CCP shitbing; sure enough, this crapworm had nothing. "I don't disagree with your top 10, I just posted a million messages but your 10 is my 9, otherwise I have no fucking point".

Basically when you have too much time on your hands -- as is the case with this unemployed shitbing on the dole, you post a million nothing messages to make your miserable presence known to others.

"While girls are happily overcharging, the guys happily paying are responsible".

This from the CCP excrement who posted a thousand sob messages how he paid $200 per hour for lousy service. Is this a confession booth, dumbfuck?

Nyezhov
06-04-24, 03:58
Wrong. Clearly the quote didn't say anything about the top girls. I specifically criticized the inflated ratings of someone judiciously throwing out 9 and 9. 5 and how that would leave people who took those numbers to heart.

For others with rational rating scales, imagine someone coming to Sharks looking for the 9 optics. Most would never find a girl on that list. They would spend all day looking for these supposed beautiful women. And if they go in the room expecting a 9 service, double disappointment. That'the why it's a shit list. Setting up guys for failure telling mongers to go find Celine who is a 9 optics and provides 8. 5 service. Geez, she's universally know for starfish, stops you from deep penetration service. And Arianna, while providing great service, a 9. 5 is laughable. And a 9. 5 for her run of the mill college girl looks? Yikes.

Basically, take that list and subtract 1 point from every girl and perhaps it becomes reasonable. But the fact that it was written the way it was, this just reinforce my stance that while the girls are overcharging, the guys happily paying are also responsible for lowering standards and expectations. Normalizing some above average girls to the tier of elite is justification of paying a lot for less in return.MY trip is approaching and all the info you guys are giving is invaluable (of course except for the indecipherable babble of the insane dick obsessed dwarf) so could I get an approximation, percentage perhaps, of what would be classifed as "teeny hardbodies".

Also refresh my memory, or advise me of the following:

Can you use credit card for entrance fee.

I recall an ATM? Do you get raped on the fees? Or should I just stuff my pocket with cash.

Is there a signficant difference between say Bolt and the Taxi mafia outside?

I must have a Pork Knuckle and German style Potato salad. Almost as important as hardbody white pussy. Is there a reccomended Bierstube or whatever in Darmstadt.

I thought the robes were horrible. I usually wear silk kimonos and robes here in Cambodia, doesn't make me look any less repulsive but they aremuch more comfy, can you bring your own?

Can you vape outside?

Thanks. I get to do this once a year and as I'm getting old, got to treat every one like the last one.

Feel free to call if I can help re: Thailand / Cambodia. I see a lot of respected old Thailand hands here but if I can add on obscure subjects such as Siem Reap chicken shacks let me know.

HappyTour
06-04-24, 04:45
Wrong. n.Ok.

Since I already provided 8 girls' names in my top list, please show us the top 8 in your list among the current 150 Girls Sharks lineup.

It doesn't matter how high or low you rate them. For instance, even if you rate the best girls in Sharks as only 5/10 in looks, you can still show us. Then we can compare and understand the differences in your so called Asian American tastes and preferences.

There are many types of Americans who regularly travel to Europe for hookers. One could be a principal engineer at Meta and live in Silicon Valley, while another might be a registered nurse working in LA County Hospital.

The former could easily pay 1000 euros to book Ariana for five hours; while the latter has to seek girls such as Adella providing 50/30 service at Penelope FKK. Their affordability differs significantly.

Visiting FKK clubs is more or less a luxury hobby.

Ararat
06-04-24, 06:40
Since Escape Artist strongly disagrees that the girls in the list are the top ones, please ask him to provide a better list.Dude, he asked you. I'd assume he trusts your descriptions. Why bother that someone else apparently disagrees in that case?

Saturn11
06-04-24, 07:17
Does Cami still work there? She was a real sweetheart with those pig tails. Any one know which days she works? I remember her walking around the club a lot looking for her next customer. Where does she normally sit now?Unfortunately Cami does not work there anymore, I was with her on her last day before she left for Christmas and she told me she would take a 3 week break.

We were friends on Instagram, we exchanged messages on Christmas Day and then around New Year I noticed she blocked me. Her friends Shirin and Romana say she is not coming back, I'm not sure what happened to turn a 3 week break into never coming back.

I had more rooms with her last year than all the other girls in the club combined as you said she was a real sweetheart.

Sirioja
06-04-24, 09:13
Unfortunately Cami does not work there anymore, I was with her on her last day before she left for Christmas and she told me she would take a 3 week break.

We were friends on Instagram, we exchanged messages on Christmas Day and then around New Year I noticed she blocked me. Her friends Shirin and Romana say she is not coming back, I'm not sure what happened to turn a 3 week break into never coming back.

I had more rooms with her last year than all the other girls in the club combined as you said she was a real sweetheart.So, as I always do when my girls stop, when I m not a pimp, I m always happy for them and wish them a better life than being fucked in brothels. Cami was not my type but I adviced guys who got her for 80 , rate for new Sharks girls and she seemed honest. Sometimes, some girls return after a while.

Saturn11
06-04-24, 18:25
advise me of the following Can you use credit card for entrance fee? No, cash only.

I recall an ATM? Do you get raped on the fees? Yes they charge a fee, the ATMs at the train station have also changed to charge a fee. I use the ATMs in a bank or that are run by a bank, there are Deutsche Bank ATMs in the airport (as well as ones that charge a fee) and they don't charge me.

Is there a signficant difference between say Bolt and the Taxi mafia outside? No Bolt in Darmstadt, Uber is back though, normally as I'm travelling not very far I either walk or use the Taxi mafia, a girl who lives some distance from Sharks says she saved a bit of money since she switched to Uber.

I thought the robes were horrible, can you bring your own? I've never tried but I've seen other people do this so assume it's not a problem. You can wear a towel intead of a robe or one of the tartan things they have.

Can you vape outside? Yes, no problem with doing it inside either.

Sirioja
06-04-24, 20:13
Can you use credit card for entrance fee? No, cash only.

I recall an ATM? Do you get raped on the fees? Yes they charge a fee, the ATMs at the train station have also changed to charge a fee. I use the ATMs in a bank or that are run by a bank, there are Deutsche Bank ATMs in the airport (as well as ones that charge a fee) and they don't charge me.

Is there a signficant difference between say Bolt and the Taxi mafia outside? No Bolt in Darmstadt, Uber is back though, normally as I'm travelling not very far I either walk or use the Taxi mafia, a girl who lives some distance from Sharks says she saved a bit of money since she switched to Uber.

I thought the robes were horrible, can you bring your own? I've never tried but I've seen other people do this so assume it's not a problem. You can wear a towel intead of a robe or one of the tartan things they have.

Can you vape outside? Yes, no problem with doing it inside either.Yes, can bring own robe and then easier to spot. 2 ATM in entry. Different rate for girls for different guys.

Sirioja
06-04-24, 20:21
Ok.

Since I already provided 8 girls' names in my top list, please show us the top 8 in your list among the current 150 Girls Sharks lineup.

It doesn't matter how high or low you rate them. For instance, even if you rate the best girls in Sharks as only 5/10 in looks, you can still show us. Then we can compare and understand the differences in your so called Asian American tastes and preferences.

There are many types of Americans who regularly travel to Europe for hookers. One could be a principal engineer at Meta and live in Silicon Valley, while another might be a registered nurse working in LA County Hospital.

The former could easily pay 1000 euros to book Ariana for five hours; while the latter has to seek girls such as Adella providing 50/30 service at Penelope FKK. Their affordability differs significantly.

Visiting FKK clubs is more or less a luxury hobby.From what I saw on last Friday, Tara for best BJ and real woman in bed for me. Sena when she will return. Maybe a new target for me, I will return to be sure with my pickiest eyes.

Turgid
06-04-24, 22:31
......then around New Year I noticed she blocked me........New Year's resolution.

Sirioja
06-04-24, 22:41
New Year's resolution.So, she will return before end of year, or maybe because he didn't wish her for new year.

Escape Artist
06-05-24, 01:14
Laughable. That other dude called the bluff of this CCP shitbing; sure enough, this crapworm had nothing. "I don't disagree with your top 10, I just posted a million messages but your 10 is my 9, otherwise I have no fucking point".

Basically when you have too much time on your hands -- as is the case with this unemployed shitbing on the dole, you post a million nothing messages to make your miserable presence known to others.

"While girls are happily overcharging, the guys happily paying are responsible".

This from the CCP excrement who posted a thousand sob messages how he paid $200 per hour for lousy service. Is this a confession booth, dumbfuck?Well I never argued with anyone's top 10 or whatever. Everyone has their favorites. But if you stopped thinking like scorned woman with a vendetta, I clearly made the case stating that a list filled with so many optical 9's is ridiculous. The service ratings were also completely unrealistic. I'm not sure I've ever posted a thousand sob messages about paying 200 e. The list of girls that got 200 e for an hour from me is a total of one girl, one time, just to say I gave it a chance. Being correct about the details would be helpful on a forum when so many people make absurdly bias posts, posts with agendas, and posts where a poster seems to be completely obsessed with a poster more than he is concerned about girls or the hobby altogether.

Escape Artist
06-05-24, 02:13
Dude, he asked you. I'd assume he trusts your descriptions. Why bother that someone else apparently disagrees in that case?My opinion is that the posters who support paying 200 e are inflating their ratings to make them feel better about paying so much. "I paid 200 e to fuck a 9 optic with excellent service" sounds better than I paid 200 e (more than at a private) with an above average girl giving run of the mill service. I mean, the rating of Arianna to me seems to show that when one pretty good all around provider comes, in comparison to the other mediocre girls, he's like, "She's perfect. " No, she's solid but shouldn't be the top rated girl at the supposed top club in Germany.

HappyTour
06-05-24, 03:40
The list of girls that got 200 e for an hour from me is a total of one girl, one time, just to say I gave it a chance. .This spending pattern corresponds to the scenario I hypothesized in my previous post.

A principal software engineer at Meta, earning around $600 K a year possibly, has a different level of affordability compared to an RN at LA County Hospital who might earn less than $100 K a year.

This could clarify why someone (A, possibly an RN) was upset with another (M, potentially a Meta engineer) who merely mentioned booking multiple-hour sessions with Ariana or Celine at the prevailing rate.

Because (A) can't pay the standard rate for the top girls, he became one of those "sour grapes" individuals who criticizes what they can't afford.

Canary
06-05-24, 17:09
I thought the robes were horrible. I usually wear silk kimonos and robes here in Cambodia, doesn't make me look any less repulsive but they aremuch more comfy, can you bring your own?.No problem. I take my own flip flops and sometimes my own robe, in fact the reception seem quite happy when I say I have my own.

Sirioja
06-05-24, 17:18
This spending pattern corresponds to the scenario I hypothesized in my previous post.

A principal software engineer at Meta, earning around $600 K a year possibly, has a different level of affordability compared to an RN at LA County Hospital who might earn less than $100 K a year.

This could clarify why someone (A, possibly an RN) was upset with another (M, potentially a Meta engineer) who merely mentioned booking multiple-hour sessions with Ariana or Celine at the prevailing rate.

Because (A) can't pay the standard rate for the top girls, he became one of those "sour grapes" individuals who criticizes what they can't afford.You use to pay more expensive than some and for average looks for me, when no wow for Celine, Rachel, Stacy and my eyes never noticed Ariana as I always told my French friend. When I had more than 500 € rooms, but not with same looks and they were really top GFE. Would be a professional mistake for me to pay more for lower quality, when my best quality in FKK land, not small pussy and baby kiss, is for 150/60+.

Tuber19
06-05-24, 20:27
Ok.


The former could easily pay 1000 euros to book Ariana for five hours..

Visiting FKK clubs is more or less a luxury hobby.So the rate for long rooms is 200 per hour!

Last time I visit (August 2022) it was 550 for 5 Hours.

Huge increase.

Escape Artist
06-05-24, 21:14
This spending pattern corresponds to the scenario I hypothesized in my previous post.

A principal software engineer at Meta, earning around $600 K a year possibly, has a different level of affordability compared to an RN at LA County Hospital who might earn less than $100 K a year.

This could clarify why someone (A, possibly an RN) was upset with another (M, potentially a Meta engineer) who merely mentioned booking multiple-hour sessions with Ariana or Celine at the prevailing rate.

Because (A) can't pay the standard rate for the top girls, he became one of those "sour grapes" individuals who criticizes what they can't afford.Introducing 500 K or even 100 K salaries seem quite irrelevant as I'm willing to bet that the average clubber makes less than 100 K as the largest demographic of Sharks clubbers these days are younger locals doing 30 minute pops. It seems that focusing on this doesn't reflect the pricing that applies to the majority of the Sharks clientele. And with business being void of affluent locals, I'm guessing the Affluent but spendthrift German customers who actually make 150 K to 250 K see that Sharks' current situation is not as appealing.

But quickly, I don't do top tens but here's some realistic ratings while considering that number scale is subjective.

Elite optics: None. There are no nines at Sharks.

Elite service: individualized so the old phrase YMMV but I can say that even the best girls are not providing 9 service on the regular.

Reliable service (7. 5+ but YMMV): Ariana, Lori, Ginger, Roxy, Melissa, Kendra.

Higher tier optics (7. 5+ but less than 9): Simona, Ginger, Lori, Melissa, Ariana, Liz, Catalea, Rachele etc.

The point again, is that readers should question a report claiming that there are so many 9 optics and 9 service at Sharks. Don't set your expectations lead you to disappoibtmebt fellas. I suspect people inflate ratings to justify their egos because they know they are overpaying. Any other poster visiting this club regularly likely also finds these ratings quite laughable.

The fixation on affordability and income really just lets me know we are not operating from a position of true wealth or someone who can is speaking as close to objective as one can be. It reflects an insecurity in one's own position. I don't know many software engineers in California who touch 500 K and don't know any California nurse making less than 150 K. This example of inflated and deflated numbers are consistent with the inflated ratings of Sharks girls.

Funny to see a guy so proud of paying 200 e per hour when I've literally fucked some of the same girls in private for 150 per hour, even 100 e per hour, or even 500 e overnights.

Sirioja
06-05-24, 21:40
So the rate for long rooms is 200 per hour!

Last time I visit (August 2022) it was 550 for 5 Hours.

Huge increase.Some guys seem to like to pay more expensive than some others, when a girl among the eight doesn t ask more than 100 for more than 30 minutes, because she wants to keep a guy for client.

HappyTour
06-06-24, 05:57
Almost three weeks ago, I saw a new bartender at Sharks named "Mina", who is the most sweetest bartender I've ever seen there. In comparison, the other bartender, "Theodora", has an unattractive and sour demeanor.

Even when there were many customers, as soon as Mina saw me sitting at the bar, she always came over first with a sweet and lovely smile, called out my name, and asked what I wanted to drink. Because of Mina, I started to sit at the bar and watch her for 15-20 minutes without taking my eyes off her.

However, I did not see her during my last three visits. I really miss her. Does anyone know if bartender Mina still works there?

Sirioja
06-06-24, 10:49
Seem very different tastes here and just normal when subjective and I know, from my past life and experiences, I m pickier than others. Some are crazy about little girl looks, what I call schoolgirls, many old Germans being, but I m not. I prefer looks who are the closest to normal women we can see in real life and elegance and charm are exciting for me. Some seem to only play tourist at Sharks, when I find most Sharks girls too expensive for their look and compare to business in Germany. When I always told I find normal pretty girls worth more expensive, but no wow for my eyes at Sharks and I see prettier elsewhere for 100/60 or 120 or 150 and 0 upselling killing my desire and I m pretty sure higher real GFE level, meaning fluently fkissing, not robotic BBBJ and real vagina potential for a real size, than at Sharks. Except for a rare beauty like Lora. FR, I will never accept to pay more expensive for quite average levels than for a German escort beauty when I paid less than 200 . Quantity at Sharks, but not best value for money nor quality in Germany. Same for Globe in Switzerland. I may become too demanding, when I enjoyed most prettiest I saw and I m not able to lower my tastes I highered since covid and won t pay more expensive than value I rank, or I would feel fucked and would kill my pleasure. Image is my first criteria, then I m motivated to do the job and don t need Globe rules, but I don t want to feel fucked. I was happy Jasmin. De at Sharks discounted to 150/60 after our discovery, to make me repeating and also got discount from German escorts, this give me pleasure, to get from what You are. When I find level of Romanians fell since 2022 , when I got so many great, now I m more interested by fresh Germans, not silicon tattoed of course, and of course my top Russia with woman image and sexy Italia who play woman with me.