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RioDeJaneiro1
11-26-15, 23:53
At Palace, blond, blue eyed, silicon tits, Kiara. Ru. De? Sexy and pretty, but doesn't kiss, so doesn't deserve my money. No smile, no kiss = no money, just sitting warming her ass.
At Sharks, blond, silicon tits, Keira is serbian, not german, but not so important.
Is Perla amazing ass, natural or with silicon like many brazilian girls?
Silicon Nika. De is still at Oase.Hi Sirioja,
Fully natural ass. I couldn't believe it myself. Silky tall black hair and speaks Spanish.
Yep. Your right for Kiara. Doesn't kiss but my type of girl.
OK I need your help. If I tell you Keira. Nika De and Kiara. You see my type. What other names do you have in mind that could fit these criteria?
Thanks
Hi Sirioja,
Fully natural ass. I couldn't believe it myself. Silky tall black hair and speaks Spanish.
Yep. Your right for Kiara. Doesn't kiss but my type of girl.
OK I need your help. If I tell you Keira. Nika De and Kiara. You see my type. What other names do you have in mind that could fit these criteria?
ThanksIf natural, then really amazing ass for Perla, like some African women. But to confirm, because silicon for tits.
About your tastes so different than mine = slim, natural, pretty face, without tattoo, not piercing, out of belly, Nika is at Oase, I met blond, friendly Tyra. De at Atmos Hamburg, you should find your type at Palace, Golden Time Bruggen, Artemis and Globe. Ch. Good Luck.
BarryManila
11-27-15, 11:25
She told me she is Slovak but who knows...She is from Serboslovakroatia.
She told me she is Slovak but who knows, extremely boring in the room for me.
Thanks for sharing. Is E1,500 normal rate in Frankfurt? Also can you please describe her, sounds familiar too.
No I'm 100% sure her name was Eleanor and not Vivien. If there is one name I'm 100% sure about that would be hers.I may mistake for blond silicon Keira, maybe Slovakian and not Serbian, all my apologizes to her, I always try to remember girls name and country, even for those I didn't try, but Syzy is right, my memory get tired with so many attractive girls at the moment. It was easier before with only 1 girl. Now for my Christmas, so many target: 2 blond German girls Coco and Jane, Mio. De, blond Trinity. Est at GT, 3 target at Aca with my main target Deria. Tu, Ina and Tatiana at Oase, Karin, Francesca, Aylice and 4 others at Sharks, before discovering if your Eleanor attract me. Out of ski started, it would be a wonderful end of FKK year.
A Russian top model escort booked by agency is about 1000/12 h, so this Russian escort out of agency, may be 700 for day or night, rate at Sharks is 100/ h, so 1500 don't seem the good price for just the day, can be for 24 h, but better to try Dina. Hu before. I had nights with regular Russian escorts in Paris for 250 + restaurant + perfume or present for child.
I may mistake for blond silicon Keira, maybe Slovakian and not Serbian, all my apologizes to her, I always try to remember girls name and country, even for those I didn't try, but Syzy is right, my memory get tired with so many attractive girls at the moment. It was easier before with only 1 girl. Now for my Christmas, so many target: 2 blond German girls Coco and Jane, Mio. De, blond Trinity. Est at GT, 3 target at Aca with my main target Deria. Tu, Ina and Tatiana at Oase, Karin, Francesca, Aylice and 4 others at Sharks, before discovering if your Eleanor attract me. Out of ski started, it would be a wonderful end of FKK year.
A Russian top model escort booked by agency is about 1000/12 h, so this Russian escort out of agency, may be 700 for day or night, rate at Sharks is 100/ h, so 1500 don't seem the good price for just the day, can be for 24 h, but better to try Dina. Hu before. I had nights with regular Russian escorts in Paris for 250 + restaurant + perfume or present for child.Escorts in Paris with AR / Aphrodite or a visit in Sharks, its a choice to be made for me know.
Going to FRA. Will spend 6 days in Sharks: Sat. Nov 28 through Mon. Nov 30 and then Sat. Dec 05 through Mon. Dec 07. I am open for communication. Please PM if you are planning to be there and don't mind to chat with me.
Meanwhile because I am bored I extracted girls' name matches in 2015 posts and run the search engine to count them. Results are below. I guess someone posted similar count a couple years ago.
I think something is wrong in our preferences. Janine with her very questionable service level is the leader. Top quality providers like Moira, Helli, Mia, and others are much less reviewed.
I could miss some known names. Only girls with 10 or more matches are in the list. Of course some guys spell names differently, so discrepancies are unavoidable.
Janine - 901.
Roxana - 770.
Sandra - 713.
Cosmina - 614.
Ira / Yra - 393.
Aurelia - 389.
Dina - 376.
Agnes - 373.
Moira / Moyra - 308.
Kelly - 306.
Evita - 289.
Ester - 265.
Maya - 254.
Alice / Ellys - 238.
Patricia - 209.
Mia - 206.
Jessica - 195.
Larissa - 191.
Helli / Heli - 186.
Marina - 169.
Leya / Lea - 169.
Paloma - 167.
Pamela - 149.
Jellis / Yellis - 127.
Cindy - 124.
Carla - 119.
Silvana - 102.
Francesca - 99.
Selena - 90.
Candy - 78.
Loreene / Lorena - 78.
Keira / Kaira / Kyra - 75.
Maria - 75.
Lisa - 69.
Dilek - 68.
Daria - 66.
Laura - 61.
Diana - 60.
Michelle - 59.
Aphrodite - 58.
Hanna - 58.
Karina - 55.
Crissy - 54.
Linda - 54.
Rosa - 54.
Stella - 52.
Daisy - 49.
Martina - 49.
Julia - 45.
Luna - 42.
Tiffany - 41.
Ivy - 40.
Kimba - 40.
Nika - 39.
Adina - 34.
Samira - 34.
Ella - 33.
Aida - 33.
Carolina - 28.
Beyonce - 26.
Veronica - 25.
Raissa - 23.
Ralucca - 22.
Ruby - 19.
Enya - 16.
Ada - 15.
Madelina - 14.
Anca - 14.
Catalina - 14.
Alexia - 12.
Milana - 12.
Thanks Jymondor for that interesting analysis. In case you are more bored at airport or somewhere else I would appreciate this for other clubs like Oase, World and Mainhattan.
Jude Bright
11-27-15, 18:58
Going to FRA. Will spend 6 days in Sharks: Sat. Nov 28 through Mon. Nov 30 and then Sat. Dec 05 through Mon. Dec 07. I am open for communication. Please PM if you are planning to be there and don't mind to chat with me.
Milana - 12.Excellent info, thank you so much for your hard work. Especially for me, have never being there, but planning soon. I think it would be more useful if you could combine the count and the performance rating.
Thanks again.
Jb.
Going to FRA. Will spend 6 days in Sharks: Sat. Nov 28 through Mon. Nov 30 and then Sat. Dec 05 through Mon. Dec 07. I am open for communication. Please PM if you are planning to be there and don't mind to chat with me.
Meanwhile because I am bored I extracted girls' name matches in 2015 posts and run the search engine to count them. Results are below. I guess someone posted similar count a couple years ago.
I think something is wrong in our preferences. Janine with her very questionable service level is the leader. Top quality providers like Moira, Helli, Mia, and others are much less reviewed.
I could miss some known names. Only girls with 10 or more matches are in the list. Of course some guys spell names differently, so discrepancies are unavoidable..Bad work, where is my little Bulgarian princess? Maybe I don't write enough on this forum. Don't change anything Aylice, I love all your body, you are perfect natural.
Escorts in Paris with AR / Aphrodite or a visit in Sharks, its a choice to be made for me know.Usually, many Russian escorts tour in Paris until 20 December to get money for Russian Christmas on 7 January, but from 23 December to about 25 January, not many escorts, so time for FKK. If Russian girls are not afraid to come to Paris, but money taste like blood.
Hi fellows,
I usually rent a car from airport and drive to Sharks. Frequently, I have a problem finding a parking spot. There are some small parking lots on the other side of the street on -Rohm, but I am not sure if it is allowed to park there (or it belongs to a company, etc.). I do not mind at all to walk 20 or even 30 minutes if I can find a good and secure parking around the area. Any information of regulations regarding parking on the street or those small parking lots across the street, or any other alternative is appreciated.
Cheers
She is from Serboslovakroatia.Balkanian WG, but I loved this summer when she had French manicure feet nails, I said her I wanted to go to room with her super classy feet. I also remember Dina walking outside with sunglasses, swinging ass, while I ate my breakfast, what a show, difficult to put spoon in my mouth.
Member #4581
11-27-15, 20:15
Milana is from Serbia, claimed she was brand new when I met her 2 weeks ago, but I am doubtful (I did a search, and found a Milana mentioned by HB more than a year ago; was she a different Milana?) This one I met has small tits (I am not good at sizing them accurately); dark hair shoulder length; hangs with a few serbian friends at the bar between the German table and the Roxana section; smokes a lot and does have a smokers breath to some extent ; has a beautiful smile; pretty face; speaks good English, and has a good sense of humor (which basically means she laughed at my lame jokes, LOL); has a squeezing pussy (I made a reference to Carla / Cindy of Oase). She asked me if she could kiss at the beginning of the session but I made it closed lipped, because dfk is not my thing (except my very special girls), so I assume dfk is OK with her. Have no idea about DATY/anal etc, but she seems very open minded.
I spent an hour with her on my first day, and after that she or I was busy and our paths did not cross much. A pity. She does seem to have a decent number of regulars in such a short span, which is why I doubt her story about being brand new in the club (and she said she had never worked in other clubseither).
I see that she made the cutoff of Jymondor list, but surprisingly Aylice did not; I would have thought between me and Siri, we would have mentioned Aylice more than 10 times, ourselves lol. I suspect her numbers were rolled into Alice/Eliss. Poor Aylice..
Nina gave me good service despite her lack of experience, can you please describe Milana? The name sounds familiar, maybe I met her too.
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Milana is from Serbia, claimed she was brand new when I met her 2 weeks ago, but I am doubtful (I did a search, and found a Milana mentioned by HB more than a year ago; was she a different Milana?) This one I met has small tits (I am not good at sizing them accurately); dark hair shoulder length; hangs with a few serbian friends at the bar between the German table and the Roxana section; smokes a lot and does have a smokers breath to some extent ; has a beautiful smile; pretty face; speaks good English, and has a good sense of humor (which basically means she laughed at my lame jokes, LOL); has a squeezing pussy (I made a reference to Carla / Cindy of Oase). She asked me if she could kiss at the beginning of the session but I made it closed lipped, because dfk is not my thing (except my very special girls), so I assume dfk is OK with her. Have no idea about DATY/anal etc, but she seems very open minded.
I spent an hour with her on my first day, and after that she or I was busy and our paths did not cross much. A pity. She does seem to have a decent number of regulars in such a short span, which is why I doubt her story about being brand new in the club (and she said she had never worked in other clubseither).
I see that she made the cutoff of Jymondor list, but surprisingly Aylice did not; I would have thought between me and Siri, we would have mentioned Aylice more than 10 times, ourselves lol. I suspect her numbers were rolled into Alice/Eliss. Poor Aylice..Very enjoyable to kiss an ashtray. Aylice is only for us, don't compare her with Alice, not respectful.
Hi fellows,
I usually rent a car from airport and drive to Sharks. Frequently, I have a problem finding a parking spot. There are some small parking lots on the other side of the street on -Rohm, but I am not sure if it is allowed to park there (or it belongs to a company, etc.). I do not mind at all to walk 20 or even 30 minutes if I can find a good and secure parking around the area. Any information of regulations regarding parking on the street or those small parking lots across the street, or any other alternative is appreciated.
CheersYou can't park on Sharks parking? Never had this problem, then park on the other side of street, no problem, only stores and companies.
TankTank123
11-27-15, 21:50
Someone was asking in one of the threads in ISG where to find Indian girls. Just to let him know that I met one at Sharks today, named Jasmine / Yasmin. She claims to have just arrived 2 days ago. Quite pretty, smallish, slim but reasonably shapely, and was quite busy.
Sharks was very full this evening. No place left to sit. The rooms upstairs with windows were freezing cold.
I tried Eliss for the first time today. Not that pretty, but very good GFE. Also repeated Raissa.
The postcount for Raissa below is misleading. There were only 2 references I think, one by me previously, to the Sharks Raissa. All the other mentions of Raissa were probably by Sirioja referring to the World Raissa.
And to help Janine keep the lead, I should mention her here. I had resolved to try her out this evening if she was around. Alas, she was not, but her fan club was.
Hessen Bub
11-27-15, 23:48
Milana's first day at Sharks was November 9. Pretty. Excellent service.
Kaira is from Slovakia.
HB.
Hessen Bub
11-27-15, 23:58
Someone was asking in one of the threads in ISG where to find Indian girls. Just to let him know that I met one at Sharks today, named Jasmine / Yasmin. She claims to have just arrived 2 days ago. Quite pretty, smallish, slim but reasonably shapely, and was quite busy.She was at Oase six years ago, also at Artemis, Paradise, Sakura. She's German with Indian heritage and look. 25 years, big mouth, fun to talk to.
HB.
PussyLiccker
11-28-15, 02:04
Saw Aureilia, Elize, Mina, Francesca, Evita, Lavenia, Cindy, Jellis, Roxanna, Sol, Madelina, Dina, Lorena, Crissy, Helli.
LU not to my taste besides a few I've been with. Lavenia(ex-Oase) has pretty face, and more of my type than others besides Francesca and Evita.
Evita does look better. She didn't wear makeup before, and looking good now.
Eliz has a great sense of humor. Cracks me up.
Certain girls tend to have targeted racial clientel like evita for example.
Lots of girls look too similar. Some variety, but not as much as I like.
I've never been a World guy, but majority of girls seems like the types you run into at World. For Hessen, I'm more of an Oase guy.
Found out Lisa De pale blond is ex-GT Josie.
Found out Lisa De pale blond is ex-GT Josie.Blond Lisa. De with tattoos? She worked at World with top model Anna. Pol in 2014 , she is not ex Josie GT.
Blond Mina. De is ex Jelina PSR.
Saw Aureilia, Elize, Mina, Francesca, Evita, Lavenia, Cindy, Jellis, Roxanna, Sol, Madelina, Dina, Lorena, Crissy, Helli.
LU not to my taste besides a few I've been with. Lavenia(ex-Oase) has pretty face, and more of my type than others besides Francesca and Evita.
Evita does look better. She didn't wear makeup before, and looking good now.
Eliz has a great sense of humor. Cracks me up.
Certain girls tend to have targeted racial clientel like evita for example.
Lots of girls look too similar. Some variety, but not as much as I like.
I've never been a World guy, but majority of girls seems like the types you run into at World. For Hessen, I'm more of an Oase guy.
Found out Lisa De pale blond is ex-GT Josie.Agree about the lineup. Mina is the only blue / green eye girl pale blonde available yesterday and the rest is similar. She attracted lots of Asians. It's a shame Lisa, Sandra or Pia were not there to boost the German camp.
I sessioned with Lavenia who was also at world last year and then Oase this year and now at sharks. Very good session with good blow job technique.
My buddy sessioned with Helli twice. Apparently he got addicted to her blow job.
More disappointed Michelle and Karin were not around. Not much variety but for me still better than Oase.
I know Helli. Ro with wonderful tits and tanned skin. Alice with slim model body, black stockings and sometimes Marilyn hair. Aylice, small brunette Bulgarian, but who is Eliz / Eliss?
Karin didn't return yet? Maybe she prefers Spain with warmer weather.
Does Karolina. Pol return to Sharks?
Janine - 901.
Roxana - 770.
Sandra - 713.
Cosmina - 614.
Ira / Yra - 393.
Aurelia - 389.
Dina - 376.
Agnes - 373.
Moira / Moyra - 308.
Kelly - 306.
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Pamela - 149.
Wow that is amazing. Especially Agnes. 300+ must have come from Sirioja and me and anyone listing some girls (e. G. BarryM). Same for Kelly LOL even though Siri doesn't fuck her. Pamela, I probably got most of those on my own with maybe Barry's help. LOL.
Amazes me that Ira is so high up the list, I suppose I contributed merely by knowing her and listing her. Amazing also that Cosmina gets mentioned so often. Distinctive name that no one ever forgets. LOL. I get pretty girls around for a long time have to win the count.
Hessen Bub
11-28-15, 15:43
Eliz / Eliss = Alice. Some guys insist to spell her name that way and that she spells her name like that. Whatever.
HB.
Hessen Bub
11-28-15, 15:46
Janine - 901.
Roxana - 770.
Sandra - 713.
Cosmina - 614.
Ira / Yra - 393.
Aurelia - 389.
Dina - 376.
Agnes - 373.
Moira / Moyra - 308.
Kelly - 306.
Interesting. Only one of these girls is on my repeat list. All others I have either booked once or a few times and decided not to repeat anymore or I never tried (bad vibes or not my type).
HB.
Eliz / Eliss = Alice. Some guys insist to spell her name that way and that she spells her name like that. Whatever.
HBOk, thanks, because it s a little bit complicated at Sharks, between pretty Helli, my lovely Aylice. Bu, Jellis and Skippy Alice / Eliz / Eliss Marilyn hair, but different hair last time.
Wow that is amazing. Especially Agnes. 300+ must have come from Sirioja and me and anyone listing some girls (e. G. BarryM). Same for Kelly LOL even though Siri doesn't fuck her. Pamela, I probably got most of those on my own with maybe Barry's help. LOL.
Amazes me that Ira is so high up the list, I suppose I contributed merely by knowing her and listing her. Amazing also that Cosmina gets mentioned so often. Distinctive name that no one ever forgets. LOL. I get pretty girls around for a long time have to win the count.This ranking don't mean anything about girls behavior and services, but I find Agnes, Moira and Kelli deserve to be well known. Even if I never tried with Kelli, I m sure if I was able, it would be enjoyable, because she is friendly. Top GFE Aylice is even not in the list. Sandra deserve her ranking for her kindness. Ester who is quite new is many times named, she has lovely behavior. Roxana is now just a silicon curiosity often sitting, Ira mohawk, Cosmina and Janine are capillary curiosity for asian or white skin baldy, not real women. I mean what are they really able to do with a man? Not the young turkish there everyday.
Interesting. Only one of these girls is on my repeat list. All others I have either booked once or a few times and decided not to repeat anymore or I never tried (bad vibes or not my type).
HB.Same here. Only one girl. I my case this is Moirs.
The postcount for Raissa below is misleading. There were only 2 references I think, one by me previously, to the Sharks Raissa. All the other mentions of Raissa were probably by Sirioja referring to the World Raissa.Never been with Raïssa at Sharks, but blond hair to ass, Raïssa. Cz was my World girl in June and July.
Enjoyed reading the report from YamaYama. Somewhat relieve to find out that even the legend sometimes experiences shorted sessions. Many of my previous sessions were about 15 min. I am hoping to use up full 30 min. With at least half of the time during my next trip.
BTW, I am not sure it is proper to ask this question here but I am just curious:
In summer, I saw one Asian guy, surrounded by girls, providing barefoot massage on the sofa. The guy seemed very popular among the girls (although I've never seen him going to the room). Is he perhaps, YamaYama?
Sebastiane
11-28-15, 20:00
I had a great session with her at Paradise earlier this year and I've learnt she is at Sharks. Can anyone tell me which days she works and if she is a day girl or an evening girl? I still dream about her sloppy blowjob!! Pretty girl with blonde hair a bit like Monroe. One of the girls who indulged one of my fantasies with a smile on her face!
I might come tomorrow if someone answers in time and says she will work on Sundays. I can't find a list of girls present on the Sharks website. Also, is it easy to get back from the club after it closes by public transport to Darmstadt or must one take a cab? Entrance and per session costs 70/50 euro for 30 min?
Based on this board, I learned that Aurelia, Cosmina, Evita, Janine are the top of the list, in terms of looks. However, I did not have a chance to meet any of these beauties during my last trip. Could anyone please kindly indicate where about each girl usually sitting or hanging? I know the location of Roxanna. You could use her as one of the reference points, if easier.
Also, I believe those top girls are often busy and do not sit still for very long periods. How do I approach them in the situation? Shall I stop her when she is fast walking in and out of dressing room etc. ? But, I read one of the poster indicated that he was completely ignored when he approached one girl this way. Any suggestions would be highly appreciated. Thank you.
Member #4581
11-28-15, 20:06
A quick search shows Aylice is in 172 posts, not sure how many exact mentions. I think there was a typo in that otherwise comprehensive and well done list. I have to caveat though, of Aylice' mentions, 90% are from you and me, or posts which replied to them, LOL.
To increase Aylice' popularity, I have decided to:
1. Not use pronouns, always type her (Aylice) full name
2. Change my name to Aylice fan, and sign off with that moniker in all my posts.
3. Randomly include her (Aylice) name even if the comment is about something else
4. And to climb up the charts, I will deliberately misspell other girls names, since this is a relative ranking.
This ranking don't mean anything about girls behavior and services, but I find Agnes, Moira and Kelli deserve to be well known. Even if I never tried with Kelli, I m sure if I was able, it would be enjoyable, because she is friendly. Top GFE Aylice is even not in the list. Sandra deserve her ranking for her kindness. Ester who is quite new is many times named, she has lovely behavior. Roxana is now just a silicon curiosity often sitting, Ira mohawk, Cosmina and Janine are capillary curiosity for asian or white skin baldy, not real women. I mean what are they really able to do with a man? Not the young turkish there everyday.
Hessen Bub
11-28-15, 20:18
Alice / Eliss currently works day shift, starting around 1 pm. She was present this week, so there's a good chance she will work tomorrow. Entrance is 65€, Sundays before 2 pm 45€. Sessions are 50€/30 min without extras. Cabs are available at the club, shouldn't be more than 10 or 12€ to city centre or main station. Some guys seem to take a walk.
HB.
I had a great session with her at Paradise earlier this year and I've learnt she is at Sharks. Can anyone tell me which days she works and if she is a day girl or an evening girl? I still dream about her sloppy blowjob!! Pretty girl with blonde hair a bit like Monroe. One of the girls who indulged one of my fantasies with a smile on her face!
I might come tomorrow if someone answers in time and says she will work on Sundays. I can't find a list of girls present on the Sharks website. Also, is it easy to get back from the club after it closes by public transport to Darmstadt or must one take a cab? Entrance and per session costs 70/50 euro for 30 min?On Sunday, entry is 45 before 2 pm, Eliss / Alice start about 2/3 pm, usually, she works on Sunday, she stays at the bar, close to restaurant. For girls rate is 50/30 mn, out of extra.
A quick search shows Aylice is in 172 posts, not sure how many exact mentions. I think there was a typo in that otherwise comprehensive and well done list. I have to caveat though, of Aylice' mentions, 90% are from you and me, or posts which replied to them, LOL.
To increase Aylice' popularity, I have decided to:
1. Not use pronouns, always type her (Aylice) full name
2. Change my name to Aylice fan, and sign off with that moniker in all my posts.
3. Randomly include her (Aylice) name even if the comment is about something else
4. And to climb up the charts, I will deliberately misspell other girls names, since this is a relative ranking..Didn't you experience, she was not always free for you, when you wanted to go with her? I don't mean on Saturday when she was not able to come to you. Even small woman with hair on face, I can say you she is well known at Sharks by regulars, and she had long time rooms, not only with you. Just wish she will stay natural as she is, a beautiful little real woman.
Let tourists go with Janine, Cosmina, Roxana, Evita, Dina. Keep quality for us.
BarryManila
11-28-15, 20:51
In summer, I saw one Asian guy, surrounded by girls, providing barefoot massage on the sofa. The guy seemed very popular among the girls (although I've never seen him going to the room). Is he perhaps, YamaYama?This man is half Chinese, half Indonesian and lives in Germany many years now. Yes, he is very popular among the girls, they like his massage. He's a friendly guy, funny too. You should have seen him dancing in high heels on stage. LOL. But it's not YamaYama.
Based on this board, I learned that Aurelia, Cosmina, Evita, Janine are the top of the list, in terms of looks. However, I did not have a chance to meet any of these beauties during my last trip. Could anyone please kindly indicate where about each girl usually sitting or hanging?.Easy. Ask anybody who looks like regular. All the Asian tourists seem to sniff out these four (or vice versa). They will probably know too.
Member #4581
11-28-15, 21:25
Janine is the easiest, with a stable and stationary spot on the couches by the lockers, surrounded by her fan club. Cosmina is now hanging by the German table. Evita goes around with her on doubles. Aurelia hangs with Cindy in general, or busy. I think their physical descriptions were provided, just have to search.
But more than anything else, looks is in the eye of beholder. I can understand you looking for specific girls because they were recommended on service, but beauty? What if they are not beautiful to you? In fact, if you were in the club on a weekend recently for a reasonably long period in the evening and night, it is unlikely you did not see any of them. So the explanation could be you might not have thought them to be pretty.
Based on this board, I learned that Aurelia, Cosmina, Evita, Janine are the top of the list, in terms of looks. However, I did not have a chance to meet any of these beauties during my last trip. Could anyone please kindly indicate where about each girl usually sitting or hanging? I know the location of Roxanna. You could use her as one of the reference points, if easier.
Also, I believe those top girls are often busy and do not sit still for very long periods. How do I approach them in the situation? Shall I stop her when she is fast walking in and out of dressing room etc. ? But, I read one of the poster indicated that he was completely ignored when he approached one girl this way. Any suggestions would be highly appreciated. Thank you.
YamaYama0519
11-28-15, 23:14
In summer, I saw one Asian guy, surrounded by girls, providing barefoot massage on the sofa. The guy seemed very popular among the girls (although I've never seen him going to the room). Is he perhaps, YamaYama?Sorry to say, but not me. I give massage to girls only in a room not in a lounge. YamaYama.
Janine - 901.
Roxana - 770.
Sandra - 713.
Cosmina - 614.
Ira / Yra - 393.
Aurelia - 389.
Dina - 376.
Agnes - 373.
Moira / Moyra - 308.
Kelly - 306.
Interesting. Only one of these girls is on my repeat list. All others I have either booked once or a few times and decided not to repeat anymore or I never tried (bad vibes or not my type).
HB.Let me try. Moira?
Today Cosmina was hanging with the slender girl, brown hair about the same height as Cosmina or a bit taller. No Ira and other gang members. Who is that girl? How is she performancewise?
Based on this board, I learned that Aurelia, Cosmina, Evita, Janine are the top of the list, in terms of looks. However, I did not have a chance to meet any of these beauties during my last trip. Could anyone please kindly indicate where about each girl usually sitting or hanging? I know the location of Roxanna. You could use her as one of the reference points, if easier.
Also, I believe those top girls are often busy and do not sit still for very long periods. How do I approach them in the situation? Shall I stop her when she is fast walking in and out of dressing room etc. ? But, I read one of the poster indicated that he was completely ignored when he approached one girl this way. Any suggestions would be highly appreciated. Thank you.Suggestion #1. Do not approach Aurelia and Janine.
Suggestion #2. Do not approach Aurelia and Janine.
Hessen Bub
11-28-15, 23:54
Today Cosmina was hanging with the slender girl, brown hair about the same height as Cosmina or a bit taller. No Ira and other gang members. Who is that girl? How is she performancewise?Probably Evita. My session with her in her early days at Sharks was a bad one.
HB.
The second session with her was quite disappointing, and terrible service on her part. That does not mean I will not repeat her though. When it comes to sex at Fkks, I follow the Godfather dictum "it is all business, nothing personal" LOL. Next time she might act better, and if she still looks good and she is a good fit for me, why not.
I wouldn't bet on that.
HB.I don't want to disclose girl's name in the open thread. But there is a story. I sessioned with her about 2 years ago in World. I don't remember details of that session. It maybe wasn't too bad. But it wasn't "to repeat" either. Usually I repeat with girls that impressed me. Other way I am looking for the new talents.
She always approached me in World and then in Sharks where she works now. I always politely declined. Today I declined her again. As I declined she asked what she did wrong two years ago so I avoid her. I explained that nothing was wrong but many other options hanging around. She told me that she learned lots over this time and she knows what she had to improve. I bought that. Session in mirror room was excellent. Now she is in my white list.
YamaYama0519
11-29-15, 02:05
Probably Evita. My session with her in her early days at Sharks was a bad one.My session with Evita on Thr. Nov 19 is as follows: Evita (Rom, 21 yo, long black hair, tanned, pretty, well-shaped be-cup, slim model, 168 cm, the first session in half a year. She had her hair color changed from black to dark blonde, and now dark brown in the last six months. In a room, DFK, caressing, 69 (I was surprised to see her put a rubber on for me with her mouth, Japanese style), hasty and dynamic cow-girl, slow missionary, 2 min DATY with her first orgasm, fast missionary without success were in order. I sweated a lot, she opened a window, outside it rained a lot. She reawaken my dick by BBBJ, then rode on me, went up and down so vigorously, nothing happened, she just sweated a lot. We needed a break and were engaged in a spoon for a while. My second DATY continued for more than 15 min, giving her the second intense ecstasy, and our missionary followed gave her the third orgasm. She evaluated our session saying that she was killed five times, three times in fucking and twice in massage (lower back and ass). E100/65 min. Must must repeat.
YamaYama0519
11-29-15, 02:49
Suggestion #1. Do not approach Aurelia and Janine. Suggestion #2. Do not approach Aurelia and Janine.Yes, you are right, rationally though. I now feel like taking them to a room if I happened to mee them again. You may be, therefore, wrong, emotionally on my side.
BarryManila
11-29-15, 03:22
2 min DATY with her first orgasm... giving her the second intense ecstasy, and our missionary followed gave her the third orgasm.But don't forget: The girls get the real orgasm, when they receive the money.
Suggestion #1. Do not approach Aurelia and Janine.
Suggestion #2. Do not approach Aurelia and Janine.Can't say for Janine, but just your experience with Aurelia and I respect, but not mine. Aurelia is one of the prettiest girl, I saw in FKK, a real slavian type natural beauty and much prettier when has blond hair in pony tail. If she didn't change of behavior after working at World, she can be friendly when she feels she is respected, she has good stamina for sex with BBBJ. She just doesn't really kiss and has a lack of sensuality, but she is only 20 yo and couldn't improve this when was fucked hard like a goat on Magnum Saturday nights. One will say I m not tolerant or even racist, but that's why I don't like them, I heard so many girls about this, and I even show them I don't like them when I go to Mondial or Aca, no problem with them at Samya, I can't go to Magnum on Saturday because it would be very complicated, I don't like animals behavior with women. I was very surprised how Turkish WG speak to them. I remember first time I saw Aurelia who was Rafaella on this Sunday evening at Samya, she was so beautiful, I couldn't resist to her beauty and was nice with me in room. If she could kiss, but I never force to get from girls, she could be one of my regular, for her beauty and also friendly. My friend enjoyed with her at Sharks, unfortunately, last time, I didn't know she was at World on Saturday night and when I read it, she was off on Sunday. Sorry for him.
Janine - 901.
Roxana - 770.
Sandra - 713.
Cosmina - 614.
Ira / Yra - 393.
Aurelia - 389.
Dina - 376.
Agnes - 373.
Moira / Moyra - 308.
Kelly - 306.
Interesting. Only one of these girls is on my repeat list. All others I have either booked once or a few times and decided not to repeat anymore or I never tried (bad vibes or not my type).
HB.Matters little if they are not your spec. Agnes, Kelly, Sandra may not be better performers than Moira (who is very hard to beat), but they are very good and very popular. For me Dina is neither stunning nor that good a performer (with restrictions), however I only tried once and concede she remains quite popular. So she must have something.
Hessen Bub
11-29-15, 11:06
Matters little if they are not your spec. To me it does. :)
Just because a girl gets a few hundred hits on the search doesn't mean anything regarding looks or service. Some girls on the list have been around for years, others for a few months or weeks. Fun statistics, that's it.
HB.
YamaYama0519
11-29-15, 11:50
For me Dina is neither stunning nor that good a performer (with restrictions), however I only tried once and concede she remains quite popular. So she must have something.Yes, she does. YamaYama.
Carpe Viam
11-29-15, 12:05
Based on this board, I learned that Aurelia, Cosmina, Evita, Janine are the top of the list, in terms of looks. However, I did not have a chance to meet any of these beauties during my last trip. Could anyone please kindly indicate where about each girl usually sitting or hanging? I know the location of Roxanna. You could use her as one of the reference points, if easier.It is easy to describe the place using a practice is to designate a direction in hours, which originated in aerospace.
Considering the central bar as a clock, the sofa (near the entrance) of Janine901 is at 6:00, Roxana770 is on the couch at 2:00 or bar at noon, Sandra713 sits at the bar at 8:00 near the place of Dina376 is also at 8:00 (towards 9:00), German table of Cosmina614 and Ira393 is at 9:00 against the separation wall, the place of Aurelia389 with Cindy is at 5:00. Evita is on the sofa at 2:00 when she doesn't come to the table for Cosmina.
Also, I believe those top girls are often busy and do not sit still for very long periods. How do I approach them in the situation? Shall I stop her when she is fast walking in and out of dressing room etc. ? But, I read one of the poster indicated that he was completely ignored when he approached one girl this way. Any suggestions would be highly appreciated. Thank you.You ask when she will be free, and take the next meeting. Then you must wait. Sometimes the girls do not know how long their customers stay with them. In this case, their answers will not be very friendly, but that's part of the game.
Regular customers have their phone number. Sometimes, especially in week-end, their schedule is fully booked even before beginning the day's work.
But don't forget: The girls get the real orgasm, when they receive the money.Wise man. At least, I m not the only naive, about truth for me, about simulations and lies for some.
See you.
Nille Copenhagen
11-29-15, 15:11
The girls has virtual name tags on, just go and read them LOL.
If they are busy, wait or go for another. I always get what I want.
Janine is the easiest, with a stable and stationary spot on the couches by the lockers, surrounded by her fan club. Cosmina is now hanging by the German table. Evita goes around with her on doubles. Aurelia hangs with Cindy in general, or busy. I think their physical descriptions were provided, just have to search.
But more than anything else, looks is in the eye of beholder. I can understand you looking for specific girls because they were recommended on service, but beauty? What if they are not beautiful to you? In fact, if you were in the club on a weekend recently for a reasonably long period in the evening and night, it is unlikely you did not see any of them. So the explanation could be you might not have thought them to be pretty.Thank you for the directions. In regards to the looks, it is so true. Some of them might have been seated right front of me, and I did not noticed or care about them. I hope I will be saying Wow! But could be What? Let's see.
Thanks again.
Horny Harry
11-29-15, 16:50
To me it does. :)
Just because a girl gets a few hundred hits on the search doesn't mean anything regarding looks or service. Some girls on the list have been around for years, others for a few months or weeks. Fun statistics, that's it.
HB.I completely agree, I've had great times with girls that don't get discussed much at all here. I've posted some names in the past (and I'm terrible with remembering names!) but it seems nobody cases because everybody is completely fixated on the usual suspects like Janine, Dina, Roxanne et al.
There are lies, there are big lies, and then there are statistics. LOL!
For me Dina is neither stunning nor that good a performer (with restrictions), however I only tried once and concede she remains quite popular. So she must have something.
Yes, she does. YamaYama.Well, initially Dina to me was like a bit of a GFE and PSE in one, but her excessive moaning and sucking (in order to 'score' a CIM) has gotten on my nerves and the last few times I simply couldn't come anymore. We swapped numbers a while ago and occasionally sends me a message to let me know she's in Darmstadt, but I'm not that interested any more and it's time to move on.
That main reason and advantage why I like FKK's so much when I'm not in a relationship myself: I can sample many girls without having to be married or being involved in a relationship with them. Although deep down inside I'm a very loyal and faithful guy and I would love to be in a permanent relationship with a nice girl, I also recognize the danger of how FKK clubs can become very addictive for someone with a high sex drive.
Hello,
I got three late afternoon / nights (Wednesday, Thursday, Friday) to spend in FKK's around Frankfurt, and I was thinking to try three different ones: Oase, Sharks and Worlds.
Given my availability (Wed, Thus, Fri) what would be the best schedule to visit the FKKs based on the hot night (more girls, less people, etc.)?
Thanks!
initially Dina to me was like a bit of a GFE and PSE in one,I really like Dina's look, and we seemed to get on well outside the room. In the room it was all a bit routine and an obviously paid for experience. I like a girl to make me forget that I'm paying!
Some girls on the list have been around for years, others for a few months or weeks. Fun statistics, that's it.
HB.That's why I took 2015 only. So the only girls who started in Sharks before 2015 will have statistical advantage.
I'll put it this way. Girls from the top of the list are Sharks' "landmarks" same as Dom in Cologne, Eiffel Tower in Paris, or Niagara falls in Ontario. Landmarks always get more hits than any other places. But landmarks OK for visiting one time only. I hate Niagara Falls because I've been there many times to showing to my numerous guests. Now Niagara for me is nothing more than overcrowded place.
"Landmark" girls initially get more attention simply because they catch our eyes as any landmark. They OK for one time to try.
I avoid restaurants at Niagara Falls or on top of CN Tower because food is junk. But I do not complain. Why they should care about quality of the food if hungry tourist lined up waiting to pay for bad and overpriced food?
Now tell me why Janine or Aurelia should care about quality of their service if someone pays them only for pleasure "to watch this amazing ass when doggy"?
I have my favorite places in many cities. And believe me all these places are far away from the Landmarks. My #1 Sharks' favorite Eva not even in this list because works here few weeks only. There is one report on her only. This is my report.
Hessen Bub
11-29-15, 22:40
Now tell me why Janine or Aurelia should care about quality of their service if someone pays them only for pleasure "to watch this amazing ass when doggy"?
Because they could make multiple times the money they are making now.
HB.
PussyLiccker
11-30-15, 02:10
This man is half Chinese, half Indonesian and lives in Germany many years now. Yes, he is very popular among the girls, they like his massage. He's a friendly guy, funny too. You should have seen him dancing in high heels on stage. LOL. But it's not YamaYama.I have started doing some massages too. Once you start to grab the back her neck(lightly squeezing), and then squeeze her shoulders, she will likely ask for a massage. Takes off from there. I had a girl expected a massage after the session. She would automatically turn herself over after the session showing she wants a massage. LOL.
I have started doing some massages too. Once you start to grab the back her neck(lightly squeezing), and then squeeze her shoulders, she will likely ask for a massage. Takes off from there. I had a girl expected a massage after the session. She would automatically turn herself over after the session showing she wants a massage. LOL.Hey PussyLiccker.
It sounds like you guys have copied the FiddyCent technique. Works every time! Makes couch time more fun.
FiddyCent.
PussyLiccker
11-30-15, 02:20
This is what we call "Chasing the Dragon". You have a great experience & spend the rest of your time trying to duplicate or surpass it.
During my second visit ever to an FKK, I met a girl who had the perfect body for me & the perfect performance. Unfortunately I never saw her again on subsequent visits. Now I am not satisfied unless I meet a girl that meets or exceeds the bar set by this girl. I even know myself that my expectations are unreasonably high, but it's like telling a gold medalist that he should settle for silver or bronze.
Also, IRL, normal girls are not very interesting anymore, when I know that I can go to an FKK & fuck 10 girls in one day.
I wouldn't say that finding a girl that pushes all the right buttons is a random event. I'd venture to say 1/20 or 1/40. Having Lady Luck on your side also helps.That's precisely the point of moving around. "Chasing the Dragon. " I just increase my odds to run into them. As far as services. The girl I mentioned was great the first session, but he second no where near the same level. Just goes to show that I session-ed her at the right time. When time right with the girl in the mood, it can get pretty amazing. When girls lets themselves go, feels truely GFE. There are those that take the session beyond transactions too. Those are the ones that can give the best GFE feeling.
When a girl orgasms, there are signs. Like her body being more sensitive. Her exterior will be sensitive like her tits or her pussy. Not wanting touched after. A girl can be drained. Lots of heavy breathing leads up to it. If something about what you do, don't kill the mood, she will be more willing to let go. Starts light and then ignites. Haha.
Hello,
I got three late afternoon / nights (Wednesday, Thursday, Friday) to spend in FKK's around Frankfurt, and I was thinking to try three different ones: Oase, Sharks and Worlds.
Given my availability (Wed, Thus, Fri) what would be the best schedule to visit the FKKs based on the hot night (more girls, less people, etc.)?
Thanks!Wednesday at Sharks with entry 50 , Thursday at Oase, Friday at Sharks or Oase, which one You prefer. Unfortunately, because my favorite club, but World casting can t compete at the moment. You can read on lustcout.
I have started doing some massages too. Once you start to grab the back her neck(lightly squeezing), and then squeeze her shoulders, she will likely ask for a massage. Takes off from there. I had a girl expected a massage after the session. She would automatically turn herself over after the session showing she wants a massage. LOL.Massage time is for free? In the room.
YamaYama0519
11-30-15, 13:03
This man is half Chinese, half Indonesian and lives in Germany many years now. Yes, he is very popular among the girls, they like his massage. He's a friendly guy, funny too. You should have seen him dancing in high heels on stage. LOL. But it's not YamaYama.L.
Do not massage in a lounge, not friendly in a lounge, just nice guy in a room LOL.
... Blond, not slim, with skin, big wings tattoed in the back is Kati. ...Since you have to point out that this girl was "with skin", I have to ask: Were there any girls present without skin?
Since you have to point out that this girl was "with skin", I have to ask: Were there any girls present without skin?If You knew me, you should know I m a dangerous wolf as written by some, many times and I m only attracted by fresh flesh and blood, rather than white skin. I will not tell about writing on smart phone, driving in the night.
Massage time is for free? In the room.I massage girl's clits with my tongue. Very expensive hobby since it eats up time. Girls like it as its not hard work for them, to lie back with the clock ticking. Some cum quickly in just a few minutes despite the disadvantage that less time is taken. LOL. Looks like some of them forgot to control themselves. Maybe they are smart and know I will take an hour in any case. Many require a DATY pause as are too sensitive to continue.
I never thought of doing like Yamayama with Tatiana (Oase) and just keep pushing on after the cum, to so many times.
I massage girl's clits with my tongue. Very expensive hobby since it eats up time. Girls like it as its not hard work for them, to lie back with the clock ticking. Some cum quickly in just a few minutes despite the disadvantage that less time is taken. LOL. Looks like some of them forgot to control themselves. Maybe they are smart and know I will take an hour in any case. Many require a DATY pause as are too sensitive to continue.
I never thought of doing like Yamayama with Tatiana (Oase) and just keep pushing on after the cum, to so many times.You work and you pay for, but you can drink cyprine, less drinks spent for the club. Girl wins resting, club win with less drinks and you win a different drink.
To jnp, because I chose Mikhaella at Aspen, now I will miss my little Bulgarian princess, as I will never change, I said her: if she changes, I will not return with her, I wish she will stay pretty little woman, Julia Robert can't compete.
Member #4581
12-01-15, 04:12
Well let's hope she listens.
Have fun with skiing.
To jnp, because I chose Mikhaella at Aspen, now I will miss my little Bulgarian princess, as I will never change, I said her: if she changes, I will not return with her, I wish she will stay pretty little woman, Julia Robert can't compete.
Well let's hope she listens.
Have fun with skiing.Maybe she didn't like my second message, no answer. Wish she will stay natural, she is just perfect when she has her hair in pony tail.
As long bones will resist to break, wish not like last April when was crying from pain at the end of season, but ski is like flying, you feel free, no weight even I m not heavy, FKK can't compete, only speeding on autobahns can.
You work and you pay for, but you can drink cyprine, less drinks spent for the club. Girl wins resting, club win with less drinks and you win a different drinkWTF? I guess I may not be the only one who has no clue about this paragragh.
Seems that Cyprine with a capital C is a French word for woman's pussy secretions. We don't speak French on this forum (nor Jumblish).
Hessen Bub
12-01-15, 07:12
Aylice is leaving today.
HB.
TankTank123
12-01-15, 08:13
WTF? I guess I may not be the only one who has no clue about this paragraph.It looks like I have to provide translation services again:
"Syzygies works hard in Thailand to make money, part of which is to pay Sharks entrance fee that includes free drinks. But instead of partaking the free drinks, Syzygies pays for the girl's time so that he can drink her vaginal juices during DATY.
The girl wins because she just rests during DATY, the club wins because it saves on free drinks for Syzygies, and Syzygies wins because he actually prefers vaginal juices to the free club drinks. ".
See how sublime the French language is? So few words compared to double the amount in English.
I've never actually left a club and come back the same day, so far.
Do Sharks and / or Oase (or any of the other clubs in Frankfurt) let you do that?
I'll be there on Wednesday. I am plan to be at the club (s) from noon to 6 PM or so, and then come back again around 10 PM.
Trying to figure out the best options on a Wednesday.
Appreciate the help.
I've never actually left a club and come back the same day, so far.
Do Sharks and / or Oase (or any of the other clubs in Frankfurt) let you do that?
I'll be there on Wednesday. I am plan to be at the club (s) from noon to 6 PM or so, and then come back again around 10 PM.
Trying to figure out the best options on a Wednesday.
Appreciate the help.If you say to theke, you can leave and come back on same day for both clubs.
Hessen Bub
12-01-15, 11:04
I've never actually left a club and come back the same day, so far.
Do Sharks and / or Oase (or any of the other clubs in Frankfurt) let you do that?This has been answered numerous times: Both clubs allow re-entry without paying twice. Same for World, Palace, Mainhattan.
HB.
It looks like I have to provide translation services again:
"Syzygies works hard in Thailand to make money, part of which is to pay Sharks entrance fee that includes free drinks.
See how sublime the French language is? So few words compared to double the amount in English.If you understand in same way from Madi, about our appointment I canceled on 2 May, then I understand better your bullshits now about running after her, maybe in toilets or on the roof, like for Raïssa World later. I just had to train for marathon for iron man, I did need a rabbit to give me the strength to train so hard. Iron man is about 10 hours sport, swimming between 5 and 10 kilometers in cold lake or sea for Hawai , biking for about 150 kilometers with 2350 meters high mythic Izoard climbing and finishing running marathon. Then, you don't feel what is pain and have body to sport in room instead of bullshitting.
YamaYama0519
12-01-15, 13:28
I never thought of doing like Yamayama with Tatiana (Oase) and just keep pushing on after the cum, to so many times.Tatiana at Oase, Moira and Sandra at Sharks, they do not have "finished", "sensitive" or "no more" in their dictionary, IMHO.
Tatiana at Oase, Moira and Sandra at Sharks, they do not have "finished", "sensitive" or "no more" in their dictionary, IMHO.Maybe just meaning they were acting, because I had other experiences with 2 of them.
Aylice is leaving today.
HB.Any idea what days Sandra typically works?
PussyLiccker
12-02-15, 07:08
Francesca (Repeat, one girl that I like to repeat). Very pretty. Our time in the room has improved compared to my visits to Mainhattan which maybe due to being our first meetings back then. She prefers Sharks since the business is better for her there. She's maybe looking to further her business to a higher rate club if she decides. Very relaxing GFE session with her. Always nice to spend time with her.
I sessioned with Lavenia who was also at world last year and then Oase this year and now at sharks. Very good session with good blow job technique.
Lavinia(or is it Lavenia, ex-Oase, n pronounced as ñ, so it sounds like Laveña). Thin pretty blond. Her BBBJ was ok. For me, didn't feel like a smooth GFE session, but a bit regimented. She's very nice, and seems classy in looks and demeanor. To me, she was the most attractive new girl on the visit.
Any idea what days Sandra typically works?When she is not on days off, Sandra can work every day, maybe out of Tuesday, from 11 am to about 9/10 pm.
Hessen Bub
12-02-15, 10:11
Maybe just meaning they were acting, because I had other experiences with 2 of them.No. They never act. They enjoy sessions with every guy they go with, no matter how fat, old, stinky or rough he is, they have multiple orgasms every time they get licked and fucked and they have to pull themselves together not to fall in love every day.
HB.
P.S.: This post may contain sarcasm.
Hessen Bub
12-02-15, 10:12
Any idea what days Sandra typically works?I've seen her on almost every day from Monday to Saturday in day shift. I can't say if she has a fixed day off.
HB.
YamaYama0519
12-02-15, 12:38
Maybe just meaning they were acting, because I had other experiences with 2 of them.Yes, they may be good actresses. I am wondering what kind of experiences you had from two of them.
No. They never act. They enjoy sessions with every guy they go with, no matter how fat, old, stinky or rough he is, they have multiple orgasms every time they get licked and fucked and they have to pull themselves together not to fall in love every day.
HB.
P.S.: This post may contain sarcasm.I agree with you, they cum for each room.
As said wise BM, when they get money, they cum in lockers.
2 of YY girls asked me not to touch their clito for a while, but everybody know wolves like me, bite.
PussyLiccker
12-02-15, 12:45
No. They never act. They enjoy sessions with every guy they go with, no matter how fat, old, stinky or rough he is, they have multiple orgasms every time they get licked and fucked and they have to pull themselves together not to fall in love every day.
HB.
P.S.: This post may contain sarcasm.I was with couple girls at a club, and they were laughing and saying they were hiding from a punter. Rather large looking guy they told me that smelled bad.
Member #4674
12-02-15, 13:24
Hello everyone,
Does anybody know if Karolina Pol is still in Shark?
Would go to FRA next week and would like to meet due to the good comments in the forum.
Would like to have a good optikfick.
But I have seen she only showed in Club few hours?
Thanks
Finnish Fucker
12-02-15, 21:10
No. They never act. They enjoy sessions with every guy they go with, no matter how fat, old, stinky or rough he is, they have multiple orgasms every time they get licked and fucked and they have to pull themselves together not to fall in love every day.
HB.
P.S.: This post may contain sarcasm.http://freierjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/werner_021.jpg
I wonder if the girl in the photo linked above is:
A) enjoying multiple orgasms.
B) holding back her laughter while looking in the mirror.
-FF
PS. The geezer is having a blast for sure.
http://freierjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/werner_021.jpg
We finally found you Granddad.
YamaYama0519
12-03-15, 02:21
2 of YY girls asked me not to touch their clito for a while, but everybody know wolves like me, bite.Your sessions with them might have been just after mine with them LOL, or just they did not want to have their clits bit by the wolf, LOL.
Sandra, Madalina, Aurelia, Evita, Patricia, Janine, small brunette Monica, Milana. Srb, Francesca, Helli, Alice / Eliss, Jellis, Leya, Ester, Maria, Alexa, Kati. De, Lisa. De, Keira, Crissy. Bu, Paola, Roxana, were there. No Karin, nor Agnes, nor Aylice, nor Karolina. Pol, nor Moira. Only 1 out of my 7 girls.
Best were jokes with BM and good foods.
Hessen Bub
12-03-15, 08:02
No Karin, nor Agnes, nor Aylice, nor Karolina. Pol, nor Moira.They know they don't make money with the Wednesday crowd. Re Alice: See post #7079.
HB.
Lavinia(or is it Lavenia, ex-Oase, n pronounced as , so it sounds like Lavea). Thin pretty blond. Her BBBJ was ok. For me, didn't feel like a smooth GFE session, but a bit regimented. She's very nice, and seems classy in looks and demeanor. To me, she was the most attractive new girl on the visit.So does she look better with black or blond hair? I've only seen her with black hair I think.
PussyLiccker
12-03-15, 12:03
So does she look better with black or blond hair? I've only seen her with black hair I think.If she is the same girl as the black haired Lavinia (Oase), I would say that the dirty blond(not platinum) suits her quite well(I can't say I've seen her at Oase). She has an elegance about her I liked.
Color and shades of hair is matter of taste, but I find that there are color and shade that suits better for a girl over others. Ina(Oase) suits well platinum blond. Lori(Oase) for my taste, suits better her natural lighter brunette than platinum blond. Francesca(Sharks) suits well black hair. Hair(style, color, etc..) makes a good difference IMO. Ira is an extreme example of that. Personally, I prefer lots of Romanians as natural brunettes over black. That could make a difference in perception for me.
They know they don't make money with the Wednesday crowd.
HB.Why? I thought crowd means money. Or Wednesday is a cheapskate's day?
They know they don't make money with the Wednesday crowd. Re Alice: See post #7079.
HB.Not so full on this Wednesday evening, but so many Turkish. I think most girls work on Wednesday, Friday and Saturday. Karin didn't return yet, wish her good time in Spain and Karolina. Pol doesn't seem to be at Sharks at the moment, wish her to be able to say: no, to pimp.
No Dina, no Perla.
PussyLiccker
12-03-15, 15:48
Not so full on this Wednesday evening, but so many Turkish. I think most girls work on Wednesday, Friday and Saturday. Karin didn't return yet, wish her good time in Spain and Karolina. Pol doesn't seem to be at Sharks at the moment, wish her to be able to say: no, to pimp.
No Dina, no Perla.Yup, I figured those girls were not in attendance around the time I've visited. Looking at your list, there seems to be girls that I have not seen in attendance on Friday as PChew has pointed out. Wednesday would have a big crowd too. Leads me to think Wednesday would be the most popular day for better girls attendance. The girls often repeatedly mentioned weren't that busy on Friday. They were pretty available that night.
I listed Dina prior, but a different one. A Romanian, perhaps her name was Diana instead. Black haired, blue eye'd one.
Yes, they may be good actresses. I am wondering what kind of experiences you had from two of them.Maybe, Y¿you are nave like me, WG are more skillful to simulate or lie than for sex, don t believe too much, words and noises they make, but clit and nipples becoming hard, chicken skin, bitter juice rather than beer. Today at GT, I just experienced once more with Joana. NL, I met for first time, I couldn't touch her clit longer because too sensitive, so she couldn't be licked more, better than fake words or noises.
I listed Dina prior, but a different one. A Romanian, perhaps her name was Diana instead. Black haired, blue eye'd one.Yes Diana. Has big natural tits. Normally sits on the right side of the bar or somewhere near the stairs that take you up to wellness area. Avoid her. Horrible attitude. Moody. Complains the entire time.
Lavinia(or is it Lavenia, ex-Oase, n pronounced as , so it sounds like Lavea). Thin pretty blond. Her BBBJ was ok. For me, didn't feel like a smooth GFE session, but a bit regimented. She's very nice, and seems classy in looks and demeanor. To me, she was the most attractive new girl on the visit.I asked for CBJ and she did well. Very smooth, no hand, and not too vigorous. Tight pussy during sex.
On the next day I went to GoldenTime and sessioned Kenza. Everything e. G. Face, body, GFE, worked out fine except BJ- very strong and I can feel the pain. I asked her to slow down but still it wasn't pleasant. My dick surprised me by staying up but I cut short of the BJ and went for the main course early.
PussyLiccker
12-04-15, 02:40
Yes Diana. Has big natural tits. Normally sits on the right side of the bar or somewhere near the stairs that take you up to wellness area. Avoid her. Horrible attitude. Moody. Complains the entire time.My spidey senses gave me warning signs, and that's the reality of it. Although at times my dick does the thinking, you can get a sense of the girl with some observation and interacting with her. Some girls are probably not aware that some guys can see through them.
PussyLiccker
12-04-15, 03:08
I asked for CBJ and she did well. Very smooth, no hand, and not too vigorous. Tight pussy during sex.
On the next day I went to GoldenTime and sessioned Kenza. Everything e. G. Face, body, GFE, worked out fine except BJ- very strong and I can feel the pain. I asked her to slow down but still it wasn't pleasant. My dick surprised me by staying up but I cut short of the BJ and went for the main course early.From what I've heard from the girls, some guys don't mind hand and a bit of force. Likely why some of the girls do it that way. I usually communicate with the girl. If I find that the BJ to be on the rough side I let her know and she will soften up. I sometimes let her know how I like the BJ, and if the girl is experienced enough, had clients or BF that prefers it the same way I like, she switches on to that mode easily. There are those that could be inexperienced or may not fully understand when I communicate. And then there are ones that do not know how to avoid using teeth. When a girl is doing the blow job a certain way that I like at times, I try to encourage her to show I like it that way, so she gets an idea. Also, I show some enthusiasm as an encouragement. Usually works out well. It sometimes triggers unexpectedly good outcomes.
I like soft BJ. Some girls gets it right from the start. I believe some girls do it soft because they probably prefer to be handled softly themselves. Isa(Micky ex-Oase) at World probably had one of the best soft BJ I've had. It was quite magical that she could get me to finish with BJ alone. Another World girl on the same visit had the same handle. Sofie DE from DV was good at this too. Some girls does BJ in this way out of their thinking that the client would prefer it that way. Commonality with these girls is that they handle you very softly and sensually.
I like soft BJ. Some girls gets it right from the start. I believe some girls do it soft because they probably prefer to be handled softly themselves. Isa(Micky ex-Oase) at World probably had one of the best soft BJ I've had. It was quite magical that she could get me to finish with BJ alone. Another World girl on the same visit had the same handle. Sofie DE from DV was good at this too. Some girls does BJ in this way out of their thinking that the client would prefer it that way. Commonality with these girls is that they handle you very softly and sensually.Isa (at World) still does provide those (based on a very recent experience). Very sensual/excellent session. My guess is that you will also like Crina's way of handling "things" (Oase- girl).
PussyLiccker
12-04-15, 12:11
Isa (at World) still does provide those (based on a very recent experience). Very sensual/excellent session. My guess is that you will also like Crina's way of handling "things" (Oase- girl).I have a very soft spot for a type of soft BJ. Based on my stats, I didn't run into too many GT girls that would provide BJ in that manner. That probably means I'm picking the wrong girls for BJs. Most often it has been either Oase or World girls (small sampling, but high outcomes). Polish girls are typically slow, sensual, soft. Rosa at GT was pretty good, and there are other Polish girls I've taken in the past. Isa's BJ goes beyond just being soft, there is a bit sensation with it too. Like a tingly sensation that makes it hard for me not to CIM. If you are backed up(lots of shots) with any girl that is not too rough, it's easy to CIM, but Isa seemed skilled because my session with her was after I've been with several girls on the trip. It has me think she does the BJ with such specifics because she knows it works. Also, Angie (Oase, ex-Samya) who doesn't work anymore was good. Jellis(Sharks) is in the BJ club.
My weaknesses are a soft sensual BJ, and/or passionate kissing. Either one of those can get me hooked as far as services. Two most important aspects of the services if done right, will push my buttons.
Well, both Crina and Isa provide top notch DFK too. Two great providers.
PussyLiccker
12-04-15, 12:29
Well, both Crina and Isa provide top notch DFK too. Two great providers.Isa's kissing is great. I reported about her past one year ago that I was pretty thrilled with the session. Her lips are perfect feeling, and her body felt great (soft). There are many aspects that goes into a good session. Not just technical what she does or allows, etc.
Hessen Bub
12-04-15, 13:16
Or Wednesday is a cheapskate's day?That's the reason. Same like Sunday.
HB.
Gaolegao366
12-04-15, 16:37
Hi,
I will be in Sharks from NY on December 15th. Just wondering if Sandra and Michelle (blonde hair from ro) will be there that time?
Hessen Bub
12-04-15, 18:47
Daisy (Ro) is back at Sharks. So is former Oase Leonie from Ukraine.
HB.
Hi,
I will be in Sharks from NY on December 15th. Just wondering if Sandra and Michelle (blonde hair from ro) will be there that time?Tuesday is not best day for casting, Monday or Wednesday are better. Sandra is still at Sharks, but can be on day off. Last times, Michelle was a dark blond, white skin, not really slim, girl with pretty face, ex Prestige Neunkirchen and ex Samya, didn't see her on this Wednesday.
Casting don t seem on top at the moment, compare to beginning of November.
No Dina who is blond pretty face and Hungarian, on Wednesday.
BarryManila
12-05-15, 13:38
Last times, Michelle was a dark blond, white skin, not really slim, girl with pretty face, ex Prestige Neunkirchen and ex Samya, didn't see her on this Wednesday.There were two Michelles at Sharks during this year. One, light brown hair, pretty face, claimed to be Serbian and wasn't there last Wednesday. The other Michelle, blond and small, was there, but she is Bulgarian.
There were two Michelles at Sharks during this year. One, light brown hair, pretty face, claimed to be Serbian and wasn't there last Wednesday. The other Michelle, blond and small, was there, but she is Bulgarian.Didn't know Belgrade could be in Bucharest suburb. She was Romanian at Samya and Prestige.
See You for jokes and enjoy Bulgarian.
Ex Jessika World with silicon, was at Sharks on Wednesday.
Citizen Kane
12-06-15, 09:20
Ex Jessika World with silicon, was at Sharks on Wednesday.At Sharks she works every day except Mondays. She says she will go home for a 'short' break over Christmas / New Year.
Didn't know Belgrade could be in Bucharest suburb. She was Romanian at Samya and Prestige.
She claims to have some Serbian root. She's now absent for more than 2 weeks, so as her short, blonde new friend.
Large Incentive? Around 1000 euro for working 14 days between the years! Makes in average around 70 euro per day. Girls have done her target so far won't stay for this offer. With few exceptions only the second class girls work at this time at clubs the majority prefer celebrate Christmas and New Year's Eve at home with family.
But nevertheless it's a quite good idea from Sharks and improved P6 offer at this time and Sharks had the last years the best line up during this offer.Re-posting from General Lounge. I haven't really been asking, since I don't plan on being around from December 16 to January 3rd, but Evita mentioned that she would not be around. Evita said she worked the Silvester party last year and was not worth it. She's top ten in popularity, right? If so, that jives with what Craiova is saying.
My guess is the line-ups will be at 60-70%. Less competition means more opportunities for the girls to make money. However, customers will probably be 50-70%. That said Christmas and New Year is a slow time in many parts of the world, so higher percentage of international guests than normal--which the girls like. Most girls hope to make up for any slow business from Dec 16th-30th during the Silvester party where customers will be 200% and raining money for the girls!
Hessen Bub
12-07-15, 08:43
but Evita mentioned that she would not be around. Evita said she worked the Silvester party last year and was not worth it. She's top ten in popularity, right?Maybe on ISG she is. I'd rate her TOP10 for looks. But for service? IDK about her current service level. When she arrived at Sharks from Italy her service sucked.
HB.
Maybe on ISG she is. I'd rate her TOP10 for looks. But for service? IDK about her current service level. When she arrived at Sharks from Italy her service sucked.
HB.I guess to be accurate Craiova implied top earners which correlates closely with popularity. I can't think of many girls who are constantly booked. Maybe Sandra. Maybe Mia. I don't know this Agnes. Evita I see walk a lot with Cosmina, so maybe not busy after all.
Some girls create artificial demand by working rarely sx. Kelly (PR).
PussyLiccker
12-07-15, 15:03
I've taken Evita when she first started, and purely on performance standpoint, was not at a level to be considered good. She may have improved or we didn't go the additional milage. Her presale is good though, very friendly, and same for interaction in the room. Nice girl. She is an optical highlight at Sharks for sure. I assume she has her clientel which looked to be East Asian centric. There are others that cater more to them there, no?
Hessen Bub
12-07-15, 15:21
I assume she has her clientel which looked to be East Asian centric. There are others that cater more to them there, no?For years East Asian clients have been and still are easy money for the girls, the stereotypes around "equipment", "room time", "service expectation", "knowledge about pricing", "complaint frequency" and "generousness" still seem to prevail.
HB.
Anyone based on experience know if the LU will be any good the few days before Christmas? Tempted to make a trip but concerned about the quality of the LU I. E. Only girls that haven't made enough money stays.
Hello everyone,
I'm going to Frankfurt to get some more FKK experience this weekend. I was initially thinking two days only, visiting Sharks both days.
However, things have changed and I now have three days. Would you recommend me trying some of the other places also? If yes, which one?
I've been to FKK Artemis in Berlin a couple of times, but that's my only FKK experience. My main reason for going to Sharks is that I've been told it's better, and that many girls provide DFK, which in my experience only a few does in Artemis.
YamaYama0519
12-07-15, 20:29
...I assume Evita has her clientel which looked to be East Asian centric. There are others that cater more to them there, no?We love Cosmina, Janine, Aurelia, Dina, Ester.....You name it!
I've taken Evita when she first started, and purely on performance standpoint, was not at a level to be considered good. She may have improved I wouldn't bet on this. Really nice looking girls have no reason to improve since there are enough men willing to pay for optic. Sharks has many examples: Aurelia, Evita, Cindy, Janine.
I assume she has her clientel which looked to be East Asian centric. That's Cosmina gang's school.
Member #4581
12-08-15, 01:10
Theoretically, popularity should be independent of who is measuring it. Service, looks, etc are subjective, but popularity is, or should be, numbers based. Strictly based on how busy is the girl. Of course, it can change or fluctuate over time.
For example, I have taken Janine 3 or 4 times which given I am an infrequent visitor, is a lot. On the other hand, I sessioned with Evita just once till now. However, I can't ever claim Janine is very popular (except on ISG discussions, by name mentions) but Evita was definitely the busiest or one of the busiest, on the days I was in and constantly booked by one punter after another, albeit it seemed like short sessions. But I don't know if that is alwayse case.
Maybe on ISG she is. I'd rate her TOP10 for looks. But for service? IDK about her current service level. When she arrived at Sharks from Italy her service sucked.
HB.
Got to the club close to 5 pm. Club was not busy but it got crowded up by 9 pm. Food was average. I remember eating the same items during my previous visit.
I was in the club for 5 hours and had 2 sessions. There where lot of girls to choose from.
First girl was Veronica, a 182 cm tall 20 yo German girl. Not a skinny girl. She kind of looks like Mona Lisa with that round face and wide forehead. I met her at the bar, chatted for a while before taking her to room. Good session.
Second girl was Melai, a 165 cm tall 23 yo Russian blonde girl. We had to wait for a while for room, but she kept me entertained by talking about all the clubs she had worked: GT-Vienna, Artimas, Magnum and bunch of other clubs. She had high praise for GT-Vienna and pretty girls they have there. Eventually went to the room beneath the shark tank. It was a very good session with CIM finish.
Theoretically, popularity should be independent of who is measuring it. Service, looks, etc are subjective, but popularity is, or should be, numbers based. Strictly based on how busy is the girl. Of course, it can change or fluctuate over time.
For example, I have taken Janine 3 or 4 times which given I am an infrequent visitor, is a lot. On the other hand, I sessioned with Evita just once till now. However, I can't ever claim Janine is very popular (except on ISG discussions, by name mentions) but Evita was definitely the busiest or one of the busiest, on the days I was in and constantly booked by one punter after another, albeit it seemed like short sessions. But I don't know if that is alwayse case.Correct that popularity is a much fairer rating than personal preferrence. Evita is not in top 10 for looks for me, otherwise would have tried her. However she may just sneak into top 10 for popularity or may not. I have not watched her closely to know that.
Janine definitely is outside top 10 for popularity these days. Cosmina seems quite busy most days. Probably top 10. Who is busiest girl?. I don't know.
Karin and Crissy were both really quite busy last time I saw them. They have the advantage of pretty face and big tits. Roxannas popularity has declined but may still be in top 10 at a guess.
I would guess Sandra and Agnes both make it to top 10, but I am biased. No technical study.
Moira should be top 10 but may not be well known enough. She is fabulous to me but lacking the face and tits to get new customers easily like Crissy.
I prefer Berlin because choice is better. You get girls from more countries to choose from. At sharks girls are mainly from Romania or Hungary, when I was in Berlin I saw them coming from Italy, Spain, Morocco, South Africa and even South America. Berlin attracts more tourists I guess. Though performance at Sharks is better with more DFK & GFE. If you have an extra day I suggest you to drive down to Giessen and then to Polheim Garbenteich and have a look at World FKK. Its very far away I agree but atmosphere is electrifying and party type. Lineup is good and service quality same as Sharks, if you can't do World then head for either Oase or Mainhattan, latter is smaller in size though. Have fun.
Cheers.
Hello everyone,
I'm going to Frankfurt to get some more FKK experience this weekend. I was initially thinking two days only, visiting Sharks both days.
However, things have changed and I now have three days. Would you recommend me trying some of the other places also? If yes, which one?
I've been to FKK Artemis in Berlin a couple of times, but that's my only FKK experience. My main reason for going to Sharks is that I've been told it's better, and that many girls provide DFK, which in my experience only a few does in Artemis.
@Bonifun,
Sharks is a good place to start a Frankfurt visit. If you enjoy it, there is nothing wrong in making a revisit.
If you have an extra day I suggest you to drive down to Giessen and then to Polheim Garbenteich and have a look at World FKK. Its very far away I agree but atmosphere is electrifying and party type. Lineup is good and service quality same as SharksI agree World is a good place for DFK and less upsell, but note the party atmosphere is limited to Friday and Saturday night. For the rest of the week World is actually one of the most quiet and relaxing FKK clubs around. Which IMO is a good thing. And yes, it's quite a distance (I would recommend a car rental or staying at a hotel in the neighbourhoood), and while I agree the LU is absolutely adequate, firsttimers usually report they are "underwhelmed" with the LU after first having visited Sharks and Oase.
LU at Oase is IMO much better than at World, but with more upsell and more difficult to get DFK in a 50 E session. But if you extend to 1 HR DFK is far more likely to be included. The highlights at Oase are many, but so are the flops. Pick wisely.
My Mainhattan visits are dated so can't really give good advice. Centrally located with a smaller LU midweek. Weekends should be better. Some like it. Others don't.
Palace is the club you are free to skip on your first visit. Palace fans of today often brag they pay 150- 200 E per 1 HR to get "good service", which is laughable. After a recent visit to Palace I can only confirm this is the situation. I was quoted 50 E for 20- 30 mnts, 100 E for 40 mnts and 150 E for 1 HR, DFK and DATY NOT included (50 E extra). I asked why girls at Palace could charge more than at the other clubs, and one girl simply said to me that the gents at Palace are stupider (actually she said "richer"; I'm just translating here). There is absolutely nothing in the Palace LU worth paying extra for. Trust me on this one.
Correct that popularity is a much fairer rating than personal preferrence. Evita is not in top 10 for looks for me, otherwise would have tried her. However she may just sneak into top 10 for popularity or may not. I have not watched her closely to know that.
Janine definitely is outside top 10 for popularity these days. Cosmina seems quite busy most days. Probably top 10. Who is busiest girl?. I don't know.
Karin and Crissy were both really quite busy last time I saw them. They have the advantage of pretty face and big tits. Roxannas popularity has declined but may still be in top 10 at a guess.
I would guess Sandra and Agnes both make it to top 10, but I am biased. No technical study.
Moira should be top 10 but may not be well known enough. She is fabulous to me but lacking the face and tits to get new customers easily like Crissy.In my observation during last two venues Kimba was on of the busiest girls. You cannot see her frequently climbing om the stairs with the next customer because she is not 1/2 HR girl. She usually keeps men in a room for 1 HR or more. I stay with her 1.5 hrs and no regrets. As I asked her why she did not work yesterday. She answered that she did, but she was six straight hours in the room with the same customer.
Cosmina, Crissy, Janine, Sandra, Evita, Aurelia, Cindy are one-30 min-room girls to me with no-repeat.
YamaYama0519
12-08-15, 13:17
...Cosmina, Crissy, Janine, Sandra, Evita, Aurelia, Cindy are one-30 min-room girls to me with no-repeat.Cosmina, Yra, Janine, Sandra, Evita, Aurelia, Cindy, Dina, Ester and Moira are one-hour-room girls to me with must-repeat.
BarryManila
12-08-15, 13:23
I prefer Berlin because choice is better. You get girls from more countries to choose from. At sharks girls are mainly from Romania or Hungary, when I was in Berlin I saw them coming from Italy, Spain, Morocco, South Africa and even South America.What? At Sharks you find also many Girls from all over the world. Brazil, Colombia, Puerto Rico, Jamaica, Dom Rep, Thailand, Philippines, India, Nigeria, South Africa, Russia etc. And the Girls from Spain and Italy speak English without Spanish or Italian accent. They visited very good schools in Romania. LOL.
PussyLiccker
12-08-15, 15:05
In my observation during last two venues Kimba was on of the busiest girls. You cannot see her frequently climbing om the stairs with the next customer because she is not 1/2 HR girl. She usually keeps men in a room for 1 HR or more. I stay with her 1.5 hrs and no regrets. As I asked her why she did not work yesterday. She answered that she did, but she was six straight hours in the room with the same customer.
Cosmina, Crissy, Janine, Sandra, Evita, Aurelia, Cindy are one-30 min-room girls to me with no-repeat.I can't say much regarding who is busy or not as I don't observe girls in that manner or clock them. I'm always on the lookout for a girl that stands out for me to be present as Sharks is rather large sized warehouse making it not so simple to keep in track of the girls. More intimate ambiance simplifies things as many girls would be within closer proximity. But, I can say this. Kimba (Filipino) was pretty available on my visit as I sometimes do circles around the bar like some of the girls. LOL. Perhaps like you say, she ends up doing long room because her service level. Same for Alice who has a great sense humor. Perhaps different days, some girls are more busier than others. Levels of popularity depending on the day and/or night, and the type of clientel that show up at times.
For me the highly repeatable girl was Francesca, who is not on your list. I've been with girls with better services, but something about her makes her highly repeatable. It's probably the high optics, and her service level, but there is some else to it. Cosmina and Aurelia are girls that really didn't strike me as must takers. Based on my experience, I'd agree about Janine and Cindy(probably because the immaturity). Crissy is not my type facially, but she has a good frame. I didn't recognize her from GT, I initially thought she was a Romanian girl I've seen their based on the image of her. Out of that list, stand out optics for me were Evita and Janine, although I'm not that much into Janine optically. Probably facially I'm not so into her, and of course the service has so much weight on how I see her at a subjective level(Don't we all?). Cindy, I've noticed her on my visit because of her presence, she was very visible and seem to interactive with customers being chatty. She is 5 O' Clock(which is a visible spot), and last time was with Aureila which forms the young teeny gang? On those visits, chances of running into her is high, and I find the same for Madelina(she has a high presence). I would add Lavinia as far as optics, with her service level slightly below good, although she seems like a nice girl. Same for Karolina who is nice, and I would say service is similar, slightly below good(but different as I felt more GFE with Karolina), but she has potential to improve IMO.
It's interesting to see how our experiences has differences. Our metrics will vary as we all may have different ideas of what high service is, and what we find most important with a girl. And of course different lists will vary to some degree depending on taste and girls ran into.
If you have an extra day I suggest you to drive down to Giessen and then to Polheim Garbenteich and have a look at World FKK. Its very far away I agree but atmosphere is electrifying and party type. Lineup is good and service quality same as Sharks, if you can't do World then head for either Oase or Mainhattan, latter is smaller in size though. Have fun.
Cheers.Thanks for the tip. I will maybe look into renting a car and go up there. I see that they have a special Christmas thing going on this Saturday. Would this mean lots of people etc etc?
Since I have to drive back to my hotel, I would prefer better LU than a party. If the party would have been at Sharks, within walking distance of my hotel, it would have been different. But maybe it's still worth it going on Friday, and then maybe Oase with public transport / taxi on Saturday. Or shouldn't I miss Sharks in the weekend?
@Bonifun,
Sharks is a good place to start a Frankfurt visit. If you enjoy it, there is nothing wrong in making a revisit.
Palace is the club you are free to skip on your first visit.Thanks. I will avoid Palace for my first visit.
So is former Oase Leonie from Ukraine.
HB.Interesting. Is she working there as a WG or behind the bar?
Hessen Bub
12-08-15, 18:48
Interesting. Is she working there as a WG or behind the bar?Working girl.
HB.
In my observation during last two venues Kimba was on of the busiest girls. You cannot see her frequently climbing om the stairs with the next customer because she is not 1/2 HR girl. She usually keeps men in a room for 1 HR or more. I stay with her 1.5 hrs and no regrets. As I asked her why she did not work yesterday. She answered that she did, but she was six straight hours in the room with the same customer.
Cosmina, Crissy, Janine, Sandra, Evita, Aurelia, Cindy are one-30 min-room girls to me with no-repeat.I respect your tastes, but I never noticed Kimba and I m sure she is not always in room during my visits. Evita and Janine are afraid of men like me, too difficult, not believing about UK escorting and going after to work at Sharks for nearly 1 year. If Aurelia kisses, she could be one of my fav after putting her off her bad new make up, but very good stamina for sport. But I m sure none of you never dare to say to a WG what I said to Sandra about her business and some of her clients and she always stayed very kind with me for our more than 10 1 hour rooms, each time a real angel with me and so generous in room. If I stopped, not at all because of her, just my choice and I know so many men who love her. I just regret she lost her smile, even for free.
Working girl.
HB.What day shift is Leonie currently working? Had good times with her at Oase.
Member #4581
12-09-15, 00:28
To be fair, regular visitors are the best qualified to say who are the popular girls, assuming they are unbiased and not make up their own facts. I thought Evita was pretty popular because she was continuously booked when I attended (And it is not because I was clock watching her, it was just that I wanted to book her but could not really make it happen because she was being taken by someone as soon as she came out; and this did not happen with others I wanted to session with). But this could have been just that one night.
Punters who attend on a weekly basis or better are best positioned to judge. For example, I don't even know who Moira is (if she was in the club when I attended, she must not have been my spec), so if she she was continuously getting booked when I was in the club, I would not even have noticed. Basically, to make this judgement, one needs to know most of the girls, and attend on a very regular basis.
Member #4581
12-09-15, 00:35
Ha. With the exception of Crissy who I don't know (she has big tits? I like small natural tits, so I must not have noticed her) the rest of them along with Aylice and Milana are my best picks at Sharks, LOL.
Shows how we all can have such varied tastes.
Cosmina, Crissy, Janine, Sandra, Evita, Aurelia, Cindy are one-30 min-room girls to me with no-repeat.
For me the highly repeatable girl was Francesca, who is not on your list. I never sessioned with her. I'll put her in my to-do list. How could I recognizer her? Description? Where she is usually hanging? Friends?
BarryManila
12-09-15, 02:40
With the exception of Crissy who I don't know (she has big tits? I like small natural tits, so I must not have noticed her)Crissy has big tits and not natural.
PussyLiccker
12-09-15, 02:55
I never sessioned with her. I'll put her in my to-do list. How could I recognizer her? Description? Where she is usually hanging? Friends?Maybe you haven't run into her. She worked several months at Mainhattan and moved to Sharks toward the end of Oct. Others probably know better where she is most often situated. I've seen her at couple spots. One time at 10 O' Clock at the bar, and other times couches near the money lockers.
She has long black hair, light blue eyes, light skin, thin figure, A-cups, 172. Has tattoo on her spine. 19 young. Very nice and friendly. When I first saw her at Mainhattan, her friendly demeanor was an instant draw, had a good feeling about her, and luck has it she is a good provider in the room. She's one of those rare Ro I don't find to be so common.
Hessen Bub
12-09-15, 12:42
What day shift is Leonie currently working? Had good times with her at Oase.Last week she was working dayshift on Wednesday And Thursday. Don't know how long she's going to stay or if she's still there.
HB.
FlyByCable
12-09-15, 13:52
I made a visit to Sharks at last Saturday for some birthday celebration, arrived around 12:30 PM and asked the beautiful girl behind the desk if they had any discount when visit at a birthday, yes we have she said and I paid 40 euro instead of 65 after showing my ID.
I really like this club, a nice relaxed atmosphere, not that stressful as for example Artemis.
The only thing I can complain at is the loud music after 20 pm, it is hard to have a normal conversation without screaming. But it is the same at Artemis.
Sadly I have 9½ hours to Darmstadt by car from Sweden so I don't go there as often as I wish to. I only go there 3-4 times a year.
I had a wonderful long relaxing day at the club and left at about 1 am, I had three sessions and the best one to remember was with the beautiful Kelly, what a nice girl, I have never meet her before and I really want to see her again, Started with a nice time in the jacuzzi and I then stayed with her for a couple of hours and it was absolutely perfect everything she did.
I also had a session with Romanian Linda and a girl which I think named Veronica, won't repeat them, this two sessions was nothing at all to compare with the session with Kelly.
Exchanged my phone number with Kelly but I was never expected her to call, but surprisingly after two days she did. That's what I call a good customer care! Can't wait to see her again.
I also had a long conversation with a nice German guy at the dinner table, don't know if you read here? But if you do, it was nice talking to you.
I really hope to visit the wonderful Sharks club soon again.
PussyLiccker
12-09-15, 14:21
For example, I have taken Janine 3 or 4 times which given I am an infrequent visitor, is a lot. On the other hand, I sessioned with Evita just once till now. However, I can't ever claim Janine is very popular (except on ISG discussions, by name mentions) but Evita was definitely the busiest or one of the busiest, on the days I was in and constantly booked by one punter after another, albeit it seemed like short sessions. But I don't know if that is alwayse case.I would say I've met/been/seen many types of German girls. Presales tend to be good if there English is good. Tend to feel more realistic than a more pro business type for the most part. There are still the quick business type convo depending on the situation/environment/girl.
I've been with Germans at various clubs, so I don't find that girls met at a particular club really represents them as a whole. There a lot more Ro so if following reports or picking carefully, chances of running into a good to great one is much higher. Janine is like the lowest of the service providers from my sample size. Like any nationalities, possibilities are there that a German could be of high looks and provides good services, and it's just the luck of running into the right ones.
For me if their English is good, the presale conversation tend to be more real than the business. I take it that it depends on the environment as the ones I've recent met at Artemis found them to be a bit professional. My sampling of Germans at Hessen is quite minor (although I've had a glimpse of good window long ago with Oase and palace). Janine being one of date, didn't fare too well. Also, she is one that presale wasn't that great since when I took her, her English was close to non-existent. For me, I've had the highest sampling, and the best luck at the NRW. Now, I tend to pick them less as I don't run into enough of them to find my types. For example, LR at one point I found good ones (in the past), and we all know the reputation of the club as being more customer oriented, but I don't know how that ties with girl's services. At other clubs like Magnum (which I find to be known as a passerby club, I've gotten lucky at times) At GT, most of the so called Germans currently are Poles, Rus, Turks, Baltics, Morrocan, or bi-ethnic. Given their small number today, the chances of running into good ones are minor, and depends on luck of where you are at and when.
All in all, there are many types of Germans out there. Different shapes and sizes, faces, and etc. Not ones to really generalize how they typically are. But, if I run into the right ones, it can be a very good day. My stunner picks over all the years, tend to have been Germans or Russians (1 Hungarian) that were born in Germany, which rides on my particular taste of high looks. I have seeked out Germans long ago since I've met some good ones, and was hoping to up my chances of others.
BarryManila
12-09-15, 16:06
Exchanged my phone number with Kelly but I was never expected her to call, but surprisingly after two days she did.Oh, she's a Callgirl? LOL. For me she's probably the best kisser at Sharks.
Hello everyone,
I've read around 15 pages back, gathering info about the girls, but still great if anyone could point me in the correct direction.
I'm mainly looking for thin GFE types with beautiful face and good behavior. Girls that come on very strong with lots of tattoos etc are usually not my type. These are the names I've came up with so far (Mostly only based on GFE / DFK as it's hard to know the girls looks in the forum, hehe.
Melai, Moira, Cosmina, Yra, Janine, Sandra, Evita, Aurelia, Cindy, Ester, Aylice, Francesca, Helli 9, Milana, Eliss, Carina and Isa.
If any of these are completely wrong, and appreciate if I would get a heads up, and if there are other recommendations I'm thankful. Regardless I will use my gut feeling and for sure have a good time anyways.
If anyone else are going there alone tomorrow and possible Saturday and would care for a talk, just PM me.
She has long black hair, light blue eyes, light skin, thin figure, A-cups, 172. Has tattoo on her spine. 19 young. Very nice and friendly. When I first saw her at Mainhattan, her friendly demeanor was an instant draw, had a good feeling about her, and luck has it she is a good provider in the room. She's one of those rare Ro I don't find to be so common.Sounds delicious. I am into small cups. Maybe this is one of the reasons why my preferences differ from many others. I am not looking for large tits. I am looking for friendly smile, cute face, proportional body (slender is better), instant mental contact, no attempts to force to the room immediately, no "don'ts" or very few "don'ts", passionate kissing, responsive DATY, allowed DIGITS is a huge advantage, no any rush in the room. Skills are not so important for first few sessions in the venue. Closer to the end I would take skilled girls. Usually first couple of rooms are for the new girls. Last rooms for the proven girls.
It is very common to me to stop the session any moment, pay 50 Euros and save a pop for another girl. If I like the a girl I always stay one hour or more and give generous tip. Next session would be even better.
BTW what was Francesca's name in Mainhattan?
Hessen Bub
12-09-15, 20:28
Like mentioned a dozen times before: Francesca's name at Mainhattan was Sarah. She's a cute pretty girl with great service if you click with her.
HB.
Like mentioned a dozen times before: Francesca's name at Mainhattan was Sarah. She's a cute pretty girl with great service if you click with her.
HB.And in doing so has been put on too much of a pedestal. She is cute, but not that cute, although her body is very hot indeed. Service is good, but the reports here are way over the top. What Jymmindor is concerned, DFK and digits are allowed and absolutely no rush (quite the opposite). So a sweet girls with good service and a nice girl to be with. But not in any "top list" for this year. Hell, come to think of it, she doesn't even make my top 5 teenies this year (she won't be a teeny for much longer BTW).
Not trying to talk the girl down, just a dose of managing expectations. Definitely worth a try.
Hessen Bub
12-09-15, 21:43
She turned 20 last week. Her service level is above Cosmina, Evita, Janine but below e. G. Mia. No need to hype her. She's tall, slim, young, great body, fun session.
HB.
And in doing so has been put on too much of a pedestal. She is cute, but not that cute, although her body is very hot indeed. Service is good, but the reports here are way over the top. What Jymmindor is concerned, DFK and digits are allowed and absolutely no rush (quite the opposite). So a sweet girls with good service and a nice girl to be with. But not in any "top list" for this year. Hell, come to think of it, she doesn't even make my top 5 teenies this year (she won't be a teeny for much longer BTW).
Not trying to talk the girl down, just a dose of managing expectations. Definitely worth a try.I have to agree completely with these comments. My one and only session with her was, about 3 weeks ago, was just above mediocre and she even tried to short-time me slightly and then backed down when I pointed to the clock. Given all the hype, I was not that impressed. Good looker, however, but average service for me. Guess we didn't click, LOL!
Hessen Bub
12-09-15, 22:20
Guess we didn't click, LOL!There you go. LOL.
HB.
Amelia. She is from Spain, but said she is Moroccan heritage. Another guest that I spoke to verified that she indeed spoke Arabic. Big natural tits, but one tit is noticeably bigger than the other. She has a big "Latina girl ass", but thin calves. I'd say close to Sol Dominican Republic. Wears normal high heels / pumps, not the hooker platforms. In the room zero up-sell. Avoided kissing. Not really a full-contact fuck. Not as bad as say Leya who squirms and wants to pause the action every two minutes. Too many other options for me. I haven't tried a new girl at Sharks the past ten or so visits--at least.
Girls at Sharks always seem to be in a bad mood lately. Not making enough rooms. Too many new girls. I think the competition is fierce. By my taste, this club has the most 7's.
Francesca's hair is less straightened today. So more body to it. More lion mane. I do think her body looks good. Long thin legs small waist. Face looks average to me. Puffy cheeks. She didn't seem too busy. By my tastes, the new Serbian girl Milana has a prettier face, but I don't like her body. I noticed one new girl named Nicoletta, Hungarian who just started a few days ago.
Hessen Bub
12-10-15, 08:06
By my tastes, the new Serbian girl Milana has a prettier face, but I don't like her body. You don't like her body but then you choose Amelia?
HB.
She turned 20 last week. Her service level is above Cosmina, Evita, Janine but below e. G. Mia. No need to hype her. She's tall, slim, young, great body, fun session.
HB.But Francesca has much prettier face, eyes and smile, than Mia or Alice / Eliss or Janine or Evita.
Alexandra: very pretty, great body, tall, blonde, pretty eyes, excellent body proportion for me, nice handful breasts.
In terms of looks top 3 for me for sure. Service wise above average. Looking at her while giving BJ on her knees was insane.
Mongers should try her for sure before she puts on weight and throws attitude. Looks 9/10, service 7. 5/10.
Nina: nothing great to look at, flat chested, with small or no tits but she definitely makes up in service. Small petite body frame with dark hair.
Always smiling and willing. No attitude, no upsell. I always do extras and pay 50 for CIM and best part is she swallows.
Looks & body 6/10, service 9/10.
EMA / Ina or something similar (Ro): she was the first girl I ever had in sharks. Kept asking for a session every time she saw me and promised a super time.
Avoided her for a while. Finally gave in after some alcohol and tried her for 30 minutes. Big body frame and heavy, mole on her upper lip, short dark hair.
Nothing great to look at, mongers who like fit body will avoid her. Gave good service, willing and open to almost anything as long as its possible.
Body 6/10. Service 8. 5/10.
Short dark hair girl with glasses, generally sits on the sofa near the pole opposite the bar.
Had a session with her and found her really pretty. Small tits but nice round ass with shape. Excellent BJ but some attitude.
Can be avoided, better pussy elsewhere.
Tried this girl who was half Russian and half Hungarian.
Blonde, petite and slim body, but tall. Extremely pretty, isabella or natasha or something.
Excellent service in the room, no upsell, DFK, GFE, massage, no hang ups. Must try.
Looks & body 9/10, service 9/10.
Alexandra: very pretty, great body, tall, blonde, pretty eyes, excellent body proportion for me, nice handful breasts.
In terms of looks top 3 for me for sure. Service wise above average. Looking at her while giving BJ on her knees was
Tried this girl who was half Russian and half Hungarian.
Blonde, petite and slim body, but tall. Extremely pretty, isabella or natasha or something.
Excellent service in the room, no upsell, DFK, GFE, massage, no hang ups. Must try.
Looks & body 9/10, service 9/10.Thanks for the report. Seems like there are many new girls at Sharks.
PussyLiccker
12-10-15, 14:25
I have to agree completely with these comments. My one and only session with her was, about 3 weeks ago, was just above mediocre and she even tried to short-time me slightly and then backed down when I pointed to the clock. Given all the hype, I was not that impressed. Good looker, however, but average service for me. Guess we didn't click, LOL!Bad luck Ortos if you consider her just above mediocre. Either that or the short changing of time had an affect in how you perceive her service. She is indeed a good looker, and she was certainly not avg on my metric as far as the session went. For my taste, she's not a stunner per say, but I consider her to have a pretty face. Although optics is high on my priority, service has to be on a certain level to be worthwhile session. She's a good balance of looks and service to be highly repeatable at Sharks for me. We all got repeatable girls for whatever reasons that maybe, and she certainly makes mine. There are so much variables to service that one's remark can come off being absolute. In general, there are possibilities for difference in service with the girl, and of course a punter maybe more receptive to certain aspects about service, and other nuances.
Here is an example: I had an argument with a punter in the past that a particular girl's service. He claimed that she provides lowsy services, but my experience differed. I dunno if there was low faith, but looking back, her service was certainly good. Sometimes, remarks come off absolute that is truth to oneself, but may not be to another.
PussyLiccker
12-10-15, 15:28
Evita and Janine are afraid of men like me, too difficult, not believing about UK escorting and going after to work at Sharks for nearly 1 year. There you have it. A girl can be busier if they open up to more punters. As been mentioned, some girls maybe more centric to certain types of clientel for whatever reason that maybe. We probably to some degree perceive girls a certain way depending on attitudes. Not faring well with particular girl would not create a good outlook on them.
Member #4581
12-11-15, 00:06
Milana has a pretty face and a very pretty smile. One word that comes to mind is sultry. Poor man's Catherine Zeta Jones if you will.
She is not quite Aylice for me, no one is, but she is a sweet girl, and I would take her every time I am in the club if I could (after I had my fill of Aylice, that is)
Nina rates above 6/10 in my view, but then again, I like slim, petite or medium height girls with small and natural tits. Definitely someone like McA would not take her, lol. She is indeed sweet. Our friend from a few days ago, forgot his name - Njord I think, rated her among his top picks as I recall, and he was a picky guy who rated 2/3 of the 35+ girls he sampled at D (average).
I've read around 15 pages back, gathering info about the girls, but still great if anyone could point me in the correct direction.If you read 15 pages back you could not miss a discussion about what different our tests are. It is really hard to point right direction.
Servicewise I could cut this list "Melai, Moira, Cosmina, Yra, Janine, Sandra, Evita, Aurelia, Cindy, Ester, Aylice, Francesca, Helli 9, Milana, Eliss, Carina and Isa" down to three positions: Moira, Aylice or Eliss (if this is "slender Marilyn Monroe" Alice / Ellis), Helli. And many guys would not agree.
What you are looking for: service or optic, and what is your criteria of good service? Besides any girls can be in a bad mood day you are there. There is no straight answer.
If you read 15 pages back you could not miss a discussion about what different our tests are. It is really hard to point right direction.
Servicewise I could cut this list "Melai, Moira, Cosmina, Yra, Janine, Sandra, Evita, Aurelia, Cindy, Ester, Aylice, Francesca, Helli 9, Milana, Eliss, Carina and Isa" down to three positions: Moira, Aylice or Eliss (if this is "slender Marilyn Monroe" Alice / Ellis), Helli. And many guys would not agree.
What you are looking for: service or optic, and what is your criteria of good service? Besides any girls can be in a bad mood day you are there. There is no straight answer.Help regarding service are most appreciated. Even if the girl are well liked here and only do good service, it won't help me much if I'm not interested in her looks at all.
Yes, taste are very different from person to person. Also there are things like bad mood as you say, and it could also just be bad chemistry.
I'm just back from Sharks now. It's a very good place. I like it better than Artemis which is the only one I can compare it to.
Good service are also hard to rate, as there are many things that comes into play. Eye contact / DFK would probably be two of the main things that are easy.
I had a good session with Monika / Monica which I would believe that most guys here would not rate as the most beautiful, but still there was something with her face that I liked a lot. Also met Moira, and what can I say. She is just my type of girl. Too bad she probably have ruined all other future sessions now.
A will report more when I'm back home. Since I only have a few days, I will spend them in the FKK.
First time in an FKK. Been to Colombia, Brazil, Panama, etc. Also have had a lot of luck with regular girls when I was younger and had the time.
I got stopped at the airport to "prove" that I had an outbound ticket. My cell phone data wasn't working yet and I couldn't download my email. Dude started giving me shit so I mentioned that 1 M refugees were poring over their southern border, so he prolly had worse problems to worry about. He agreed and let me go. WTF?
First of all, holy smokes. These chicas are unbelievably beautiful. About 30 there. A few stayed busy but most were available. Lot of fat hairy dudes there. Only a few young guys. Saw a few guys get shot down, gently if that's possible. I was approached by perhaps 20 of the women. One weird Asian chick with ugly bolt ONS prowled the entire club constantly. Like a dog on a chain in a circle. Not an attractive approach, at all. She tapped my shoulder without even stopping and gestured upstairs. Me: "No thanks!
These girls are beautiful, but have a few miles on them. Colombia isn't as convenient t or safe, but girls are fresher sometimes. This place was very civilized. I would pick the FKKs hands down to anything I have experienced if location weren't a issue.
However, Germany straight up blows. Boring culture. They really do have to import all their cuisine, literature, cinema, and pussy. I always imagined the Germans were a brilliant race because of the cars. No. They just don't have anything better to do in this foggy shit hole of a country. I didn't see the sun for four days. Have never been but was shocked that you couldn't find any German music on the rental car radio. None! I always imagined they listened to some shit that no one else was interested in. Apparently they don't even try. 99 Luftwaffe balloons is the last German song I recall. Apparently, it is the last German song the Germans recall, too. The radio had a few American / Brit songs that were maybe covered by a German. Listening to that shit was liking watching awkward white people dance. Don't ever try irony with these guys. Concrete thinking is apparently their cultures' "specialty". BTW, I am 1/4 German, fwiw.
Upshot is I finally found something in life I like better than pussy: not being in Germany!
Onward and upward.
Dina. 28 yo Hungarian blonde fairly short. Perfect body with huge labia. Great face. Blue eyes. Nice girl. Great service. Kegels were strong and pleasant. Would def repeat.
Janice or Janine. 24 yo Romanian brunette with white streaks in hair. Few tiny tattoos up here spine and big flower or some such on right hip / flank. Terrific body. Chin is a bit prominent. Terrific session. All star for sure.
Monica. Romanian. Maybe 25 and a little chubby. Wore a towel to hide it. As she can't compete. Tried to sell me on a one HR erotic massage for 100. Was clear she didn't like her job. Which actually kinda turned me on. And I lost my judgment. Told her I wanted sex only and took her upstairs for a grudge fuck. She saw my soup can dick and wanted to run. I offered to let her go but she needed the money, obviously. Don't see how this girl makes any money with the other women around. She grunted and whined and made the clam face while I turned her inside out. I did all the work and got sweaty and didn't drop a load in her. She was actually second, so Janine saved the day. This girl is an absolute dud.
BTW, if mentioned before I missed it. Rooms on inside are too hot. Rooms on outside have windows and can be opened. Much cooler and conducive to physical exertion.
Another side note: Monica had a tiny clit and no meat wings. This is visual proof of lack of sex hormone influence. I have seen very few exceptions to this rule. Girls with big labia and clit are Hornier and better in bed. And no, I am not including the old Italian lady with the fake lips in there with her clit hanging around her knees!
Chatted with her between sessions. Needed to wait for awhile and lost track. She is a really elegant Iranian. 29. Tall and killer body. Green eyes. Wanted to do her for sure but no kissing was one reason I hesitated.
What is the 411 on her?
Member #4581
12-11-15, 04:29
Entertaining report but dude, go easy on the German bashing. Ok, Darmstadt is boring I will give you that, but Munich, Cologne, Bonn, Berlin, etc etc are beautiful, tons of culture and great food,. And speaking of no sun, visited Boston or Chicago in winter lately? Not in a El Nino year though.
And only 30 chicks? When did you go? I can't ever recall being in Sharks with less than 50 girls especially 7 PM to 1 AM.
Cute line Btw, but I think that was just 99 luftballons, not Luftwaffe..and I did like scorpions and Tokio Hotel (how can you not like someone who sings about zimmer, lol)..if you went back far enough, you might find some dead Germans were pretty good, lol.
Hey guys,
Anyone know if Helli and Ellis/Alice are still around at the club or if they had already left for their Christmas break? Just my bad luck that they both weren't there this past Wednesday when I made a passing visit. Wasn't a complete lost as I got to try out Francesca (Sarah). A pretty sensual encounter. Not bad. Thought about trying Aurelia but she seemed a bit aloof. Maybe next time.
Also, I noted from one of the World lineup reports (end of Nov) on LustScout that Ellis/Alice name was there. Has she moved to World now?
Model vixens Andrea and Hannah were giving me grief for not fucking them. Was too tired.
May stop by this weekend if Helli and Ellis/Alice are still around. I'll probably also try and satisfy both Andrea and Hannah too :)
Howie.
Helli and Alice / Eliss were at Sharks not long ago. Not same girl at World. Also Madi at Sharks is ex Jessika silicon, not Madi World.
Hessen Bub
12-11-15, 10:01
On Wednesday I'd estimate 80 plus girls, same for Thursday.
Helli was working this week. Didn't see Alice.
HB.
Hessen Bub
12-11-15, 10:05
What you are looking for: service or optic, and what is your criteria of good service? Besides any girls can be in a bad mood day you are there. There is no straight answer.Even just regarding service there's no straight answer. Definition of good service varies. I had guys telling me about a girl's great service, GFE, wedding night blah blah. Then I found out the guy doesn't want DFK, no BJ, no sex. He's into talking, sucking her toes and jacking off while she's playing with her pussy. Well, my service requirements are others.
HB.
Even just regarding service there's no straight answer. Definition of good service varies. I had guys telling me about a girl's great service, GFE, wedding night blah blah. Then I found out the guy doesn't want DFK, no BJ, no sex. He's into talking, sucking her toes and jacking off while she's playing with her pussy. Well, my service requirements are others.
HB.Hahaha and then the girl give you her toes and demand you sucking them 😂.
Thought about trying Aurelia but she seemed a bit aloof. Maybe next time.
Howie.Guess you mean that she doesn't smile at ya even after you make eye contact.
I can assume that girls are not interested in my business if she doesn't show a smiling face after I make eye contact so I just leave her alone unless I can't resist her, LOL.
Even just regarding service there's no straight answer. Definition of good service varies. I had guys telling me about a girl's great service, GFE, wedding night blah blah. Then I found out the guy doesn't want DFK, no BJ, no sex. He's into talking, sucking her toes and jacking off while she's playing with her pussy. Well, my service requirements are others.
HB.Well apart from sucking her toes I'll take his service requirements & yours!
However, Germany straight up blows. Boring culture. They really do have to import all their cuisine, literature, cinema, and pussy. I always imagined the Germans were a brilliant race because of the cars. No. They just don't have anything better to do in this foggy shit hole of a country. I didn't see the sun for four days. Have never been but was shocked that you couldn't find any German music on the rental car radio. None! I always imagined they listened to some shit that no one else was interested in. Apparently they don't even try. Not sure why you want to criticise Germany for being so international. I don't like German food nor German songs, nor German hookers that much, so I simply don't have to put up with them as variety is available, which is just great. Can even have some latin girls and some latin songs here. So no need for such smart ass type comments, and would help if you stick to proper English as this is an international forum. Much of your local slang may not be well understood. I have no clue what is a "411" or what "blows" means.
The "Asian" girl prowling is probably Stella as she is a very fast moving aggressive type. Possibly half Asian half Romanian. Most Asian girls are timid.
On the plane I watched a German movie called Taxi and it really shitted all over the Holywood movies available for quality, that just had bullshit stuff like the Avengers etc. A French movie concerning a paraplegic was also very good. Another German production I saw recently concerning terrorists bringing down Air Force One over Finland was also far closer to believable stuff the typical American productions, even if exaggerated a little bit. Germany uses intelligence to make some higher quality things. Not just only cars. Incidentally Germany has great Chocolates available including internationally sourced. Never found any location better, not even Belgium or Switzerland. Thank god it's not Hersheys.
Maybe German culture does not suit you. No problem. It's not exactly rammed down your throat. FKKs are good international type places.
PussyLiccker
12-11-15, 15:13
For me Germany suits me quite well. I realized this after my Madrid visit, although my visit is quite limited on my outlook on Spain. I visit Germany primarily for the reason of attending for P6, and from that standpoint, it's a great destination. I actually have a bit of a fondness with German culture. I think the culture relays to how the P6 is done and how organized/standardized it is. As far as the songs played on radio, some languages sound better with music to others. Cuisine may not suit us all, but I notice similarities with American cuisine (BBQ, etc.), and I like hearty meals personally. I like the cheap pricing of foods. I like the bahn, although traffic jams would have me going nutzoid. By the way, Madrid had no speeding zones also. Everything is really simple and convenient, signs everywhere. I prefer safe, and organized environments. Tourist friendly with people speaking good English.
Hope its still safe in Germany after the massive influx of rapeugees 😕.
Thought about trying Aurelia but she seemed a bit aloof. Maybe next time.
.Getting GFE out of Aurelia is not completely impossible, however it is known that she is a pessimist and tends to assume that guys are not that likeable until proven otherwise. Maybe she is affected by too much bad experience. I don't really know much.
However my 2nd session with her was really quite good once she decided I was a nice guy. She can be good when she wants to, it's just not that often especially first sessions it would seem. Treat her great and she may smile nicely and be in a good mood.
It's a pity when girls cannot start out giving guys the benefit of any doubt of course. Other girls give fantastic GFE from first 5 minutes. However one wonders how real that can be.
Member #4581
12-11-15, 16:31
411 is directory assistance; I have n't used it in decades now. He wants her contact details, basically.
Blows means something sucks.
Anyway, I thought he had a rather funny and entertaining writing style. Don't think he was fully serious.
Hessen Bub
12-11-15, 17:11
Chatted with her between sessions. Needed to wait for awhile and lost track. She is a really elegant Iranian. 29. Tall and killer body. Green eyes. Wanted to do her for sure but no kissing was one reason I hesitated.
What is the 411 on her?Never sessioned with her. Killer body? She's got a big but and her body isn't to firm, to be polite.
HB.
You don't like her body but then you choose Amelia?
HB.Milana has somewhat big calves. Makes them appear less feminine, which is a turn off for me. Sometimes I make exceptions to my weird specs though.
Definition of good service varies. I had guys telling me about a girl's great service, GFE, wedding night blah blah. Then I found out the guy doesn't want DFK, no BJ, no sex. He's into talking, sucking her toes and jacking off while she's playing with her pussy. Men like this probably should just answer "she was good for me" and leave it at that. This is only wedding night for him and other men who share his fetish. But if I know a girl consistently gets great reports, then I know she will probably be good for me.
Also, I noted from one of the World lineup reports (end of Nov) on LustScout that Ellis/Alice name was there. Has she moved to World now?Hey Howie,
Sorry, I do not know Ellis at Sharks. I seriously doubt it is the same girl.
-S16.
Hessen Bub
12-11-15, 18:09
Also, I noted from one of the World lineup reports (end of Nov) on LustScout that Ellis/Alice name was there. Has she moved to World now?
Sharks Alice / Ellis (formerly Paradise Stuttgart) has never been to World, AFAIK.
HB.
I did meet a girl at Sharks who's name was Ella. Could it be the same as Ellis? Very firm slim body with brown hair, and top 3 in looks at the club if you ask me. Claimed she was new at the club and had moved around between several clubs, but who knows?
Hessen Bub
12-11-15, 18:34
I did meet a girl at Sharks whos name was Ella. Could it be the same as Ellis? Very firm slim body with brown hair, and top 3 in looks at the club if you ask me... Claimed she was new at the club and had moved around between several clubs, but who knows?Don't think that's her.
Alice: about 25 years, 175 cm, KF32/34, small almost not tits with nice nippels, blonde, sometimes curly hair, 2 tattoos on her back, pretty face, slightly arrogant look, sometimes wearing big glasses. English speaking only, was at Sakura and Paradise before she moved to Sharks and had a short intermezzo at Oase.
HB.
OK, wrong height then. The Ella girl is about 160-165 ish. 25 or 26 yrs old IRC with a very firm / fit small ass. Like a middle distance runner.
Monica. Romanian. Maybe 25 and a little chubby. Wore a towel to hide it. As she can't compete.
I had a good session with Monika / Monica which I would believe that most guys here would not rate as the most beautiful, but still there was something with her face that I liked a lot. Also met Moira, and what can I say. She is just my type of girl. Too bad she probably have ruined all other future sessions now.
Is that about the same Monica? As she said she is Romanian but her father is Brazilian. Her face is fairly exotic. There is something oriental in her eye shape. I wouldn't say her junk in trunk requires to be covered withe the towel. Her?
I had session with the Monica I described. Not bad at all. She was trying to upsell GREEK but not insistently. I would call this "promotion of the available services" rather than "upselling". Not sure about repeat since so many choices available.
Not sure why you want to criticise Germany for being so international. I don't like German food nor German songs, nor German hookers that much, so I simply don't have to put up with them as variety is available, which is just great. Can even have some latin girls and some latin songs here. So no need for such smart ass type comments, and would help if you stick to proper English as this is an international forum. Much of your local slang may not be well understood. I have no clue what is a "411" or what "blows" means.
The "Asian" girl prowling is probably Stella as she is a very fast moving aggressive type. Possibly half Asian half Romanian. Most Asian girls are timid.
On the plane I watched a German movie called Taxi and it really shitted all over the Holywood movies available for quality, that just had bullshit stuff like the Avengers etc. A French movie concerning a paraplegic was also very good. Another German production I saw recently concerning terrorists bringing down Air Force One over Finland was also far closer to believable stuff the typical American productions, even if exaggerated a little bit. Germany uses intelligence to make some higher quality things. Not just only cars. Incidentally Germany has great Chocolates available including internationally sourced. Never found any location better, not even Belgium or Switzerland. Thank god it's not Hersheys.
Maybe German culture does not suit you. No problem. It's not exactly rammed down your throat. FKKs are good international type places.We should just ignore this ignorant uncultured Herd Bull guy, at least for now. Once he finds anything remotely close to the German FKKs, roads, beer, financial and humanitarian system, and nicely describes them, then only he's worth listening to.
Never sessioned with her. Killer body? She's got a big but and her body isn't to firm, to be polite.
HB.Exactly my point. Big butt. A little meat on the bone. There are plenty of spinners in there, too. But it takes all types.
411 is directory assistance; I have n't used it in decades now. He wants her contact details, basically.
Blows means something sucks.
Anyway, I thought he had a rather funny and entertaining writing style. Don't think he was fully serious.411 is information. No, I don't want her contact info. Haha.
411 is directory assistance; I have n't used it in decades now. He wants her contact details, basically.
Blows means something sucks.
Anyway, I thought he had a rather funny and entertaining writing style. Don't think he was fully serious.I was being dead serious. After having been in Germany for four dreadful foggy days and having bad food, I want to annihilate the country with hydrogen bombs. That would also solve their refugee crisis. I intend to write Trump an email right now.
Not sure why you want to criticise Germany for being so international. I don't like German food nor German songs, nor German hookers that much, so I simply don't have to put up with them as variety is available, which is just great. Can even have some latin girls and some latin songs here. So no need for such smart ass type comments, and would help if you stick to proper English as this is an international forum. Much of your local slang may not be well understood. I have no clue what is a "411" or what "blows" means.
The "Asian" girl prowling is probably Stella as she is a very fast moving aggressive type. Possibly half Asian half Romanian. Most Asian girls are timid.
On the plane I watched a German movie called Taxi and it really shitted all over the Holywood movies available for quality, that just had bullshit stuff like the Avengers etc. A French movie concerning a paraplegic was also very good. Another German production I saw recently concerning terrorists bringing down Air Force One over Finland was also far closer to believable stuff the typical American productions, even if exaggerated a little bit. Germany uses intelligence to make some higher quality things. Not just only cars. Incidentally Germany has great Chocolates available including internationally sourced. Never found any location better, not even Belgium or Switzerland. Thank god it's not Hersheys.
Maybe German culture does not suit you. No problem. It's not exactly rammed down your throat. FKKs are good international type places.Like I said, never try irony on a German. Ask these people what time it is, and they will start out by explaining how a watch works.
Hessen Bub
12-11-15, 23:49
Don't think it was posted before: Daisy is back from Romania after 3 months.
HB.
Smoky Jack
12-11-15, 23:59
Is that about the same Monica? As she said she is Romanian but her father is Brazilian. Her face is fairly exotic. There is something oriental in her eye shape. I wouldn't say her junk in trunk requires to be covered withe the towel. Her?
I had session with the Monica I described. Not bad at all. She was trying to upsell GREEK but not insistently. I would call this "promotion of the available services" rather than "upselling". Not sure about repeat since so many choices available.Agree on this classification. As long as they don't push too hard, encouraging anal or CIM is not so obnoxious. Upselling is when they get pissed if you don't partake or insist you pay more for standard services imo.
Is that about the same Monica? I'm pretty sure HerdBull and me are talking about the same Monica. I don't remember you're report so can't compare it to that (It's late so I don't want to read back and confirm.
She's really pale, dark hair and a few kg too much. Keep in mind that I like really skinny girls usually, so I would think other people would call it normal. She did not hide anything the day I went with her, so there was no surprise at all. You could be right about something oriental in her eyes. It was her face that intrigued me the most really.
First visit so I don't really know what it use to be like on a Thursday, but I found the day really good.
DIA / Deah? Medium tall, probably not one of the youngest there. Walks around a lot. Seems to be a girl who's been there for quite some time, but I could be wrong. Her face have kind of a round shape, and she looks very sweet.
Good session, but only light GFE.
Monica. Pale girl, not the thinnest girl of the crowd.
She was very sweet when I talked to her before going to the room. We actually bumped into each other like 4 times, and we also ate together, and she told me to stop following her, haha. She didn't ask to go to a room at all, which I always take as a good sign.
In the room she was not very good GFE at all, but we had a 1 h where she also did a erotic massage. In my opinion, she is quite good, and I believe her when she told me she had worked at a massage parlor earlier.
Moira. This girl is so good that I'm thinking about dropping the entire message, just to easier keep her to myself.
Probably one of the most funny girls I've talked to in quite a while. Perfect GFE and even more perfect humor. Thinking about kidnapping her and bringing her with me home, but with a personality that strong I think it would cause me problems in the long run, haha.
YamaYama0519
12-12-15, 03:23
Getting GFE out of Aurelia is not completely impossible....Treat her great and she may smile nicely and be in a good mood....Agreed. Treat her as princess.
BarryManila
12-12-15, 09:15
Don't think it was posted before: Daisy is back from Romania after 3 months. HB.#7117 12-04-15.
Like I said, never try irony on a German. Ask these people what time it is, and they will start out by explaining how a watch works.Ha Ha. I am not German, but irony is the most pathetic form of humour, for me, basically what unfunny people fall back on. It tends to give the "smart ass" impression for those that overdo the sarcasm. I try to avoid sarcasm mostly. Anyway back to the girls topic. Little else really matters a lot in an FKK, other which girls are really hot and great in the room, unless you cannot fuck because the rooms are unbearably hot.
Hessen Bub
12-12-15, 10:32
I was being dead serious. Sure. So I guess we won't hear from you again, not in the Germany section of the board. Try Syria. Bombastic weather. Better food. Bring Donald. You made my ignore list, HB.
HB.
Finnish Fucker
12-12-15, 15:50
However, Germany straight up blows. Boring culture. They really do have to import all their cuisine, literature, cinema, and pussy. I always imagined the Germans were a brilliant race because of the cars. No. They just don't have anything better to do in this foggy shit hole of a country. I didn't see the sun for four days. Have never been but was shocked that you couldn't find any German music on the rental car radio. None! I always imagined they listened to some shit that no one else was interested in. Apparently they don't even try. 99 Luftwaffe balloons is the last German song I recall.
Here is a good german song for you and the music video rocks, just awesome!
http://youtu.be/Rr8ljRgcJNM
-FF.
Don't think it was posted before: Daisy is back from Romania after 3 months.
HB.Daisy's service was great, however:
1. Insisting attempts to upsell CIM.
2. Next two days very insisting attempts to pull to the room again.
I don't like to be pushed however she is definitely worth to repeat.
Agreed. Treat her as princess.According this business model girls should treat the customers like kings. But I agree: sometimes if you treat girl well she will pay back with better service. Not every girl.
Hessen Bub
12-12-15, 16:26
1. Insisting attempts to upsell CIM.
2. Next two days very insisting attempts to pull to the room again.
Really? Both never happened to me.
HB.
SobeLizard
12-12-15, 16:45
However, Germany straight up blows. Boring culture. They really do have to import all their cuisine, literature, cinema, and pussy. I always imagined the Germans were a brilliant race because of the cars. No. They just don't have anything better to do in this foggy shit hole of a country. I didn't see the sun for four days. Have never been but was shocked that you couldn't find any German music on the rental car radio. None! I always imagined they listened to some shit that no one else was interested in. Apparently they don't even try. 99 Luftwaffe balloons is the last German song I recall. Apparently, it is the last German song the Germans recall, too. The radio had a few American / Brit songs that were maybe covered by a German. Listening to that shit was liking watching awkward white people dance. Don't ever try irony with these guys. Concrete thinking is apparently their cultures' "specialty". BTW, I am 1/4 German, fwiw.
Upshot is I finally found something in life I like better than pussy: not being in Germany!Bach, Beethoven, Wagner, Brahms, and Strauss were Great Composers and provided music for centuries before all that Rap shyt!.
Carl Zeiss makes the best Optic lens used by Hollywood Video Cameras.
Germans are famous for their Beers.
Germany is one of the few countries in the world that does not have ticket gates to enter the subway. They trust that everyone is honest.
Really? Both never happened to me.HB.Maybe this happened because it was her second day after long break and she is struggling for money? Maybe she read in my eyes that I am easy prey (which is wrong). Who knows?
PussyLiccker
12-12-15, 17:52
Germany is one of the few countries in the world that does not have ticket gates to enter the subway. They trust that everyone is honest.They have DB bahn personnel that will check for tickets randomly so make sure your ticket is for the correct radius or zones or you'd get slapped with a big fine.
Like I said, never try irony on a German. Ask these people what time it is, and they will start out by explaining how a watch works.I've heard this saying somewhere which is a stereotype. People have told me that German accents are not pleasant, but for me, German sounds attractive coming out of a girl or their accent when speaking English. Just my odd taste I guess.
Here is a good german song for you and the music video rocks, just awesome!
http://youtu.be/Rr8ljRgcJNM
-FF.Ah, Ramstein, who hasn't heard about them. I didn't know Scorpians were DE.
I'm more of an ATB guy myself, and didn't know he was a German DJ.
Ha Ha. I am not German, but irony is the most pathetic form of humour, for me, basically what unfunny people fall back on. It tends to give the "smart ass" impression for those that overdo the sarcasm. I try to avoid sarcasm mostly. Anyway back to the girls topic. Little else really matters a lot in an FKK, other which girls are really hot and great in the room, unless you cannot fuck because the rooms are unbearably hot.I am sorry to hear that your impression on irony. It doesn't have to be irony on others behalf.
Sharks LU did disappoint me a bit however. But the food and the pools at 2nd floor does make it nice for relaxation. Most of the Sharks girls either had a face I didn't like, or a body that I didn't like. There was 3 or 4 exceptions that I could go with though. But it seemed like a needle in a haystack when there were 100 girls around in one room.
The girls I liked was one young 19 yr old Hungarian blonde (cant recall her name). A brown haired German/Moroccan named Rina, and brown haired Ella from Romania.
The girls I liked was one young 19 yr old hungarian blonde (cant recall her name).Patricia. Although trying to come on this site and referencing names, it quickly reaches a point of diminishing returns. Better to go with birthday (an absolute value).
Member #4581
12-12-15, 22:25
Suppose you did not have to pay. Suppose you met any of the Sharks girls in a bar, restaurant, somewhere. The girl was willing to give a blow job, fuck, and perhaps indulge kinkier desires. How many of those girls would you reject and say, "sorry I don't find you pretty or interesting, I don't want to fuck you, or receive a blow job from you" etc
My view is that compared to the average punter, most of the girls are at a more desirable, attractive level, if money was taken out of the equation. Most punters would gladly take 90% of the girls, if free. In the outside world, few punters have any shot at any of those 20 year old lasses. I am talking about the average guy in the club, you may be much better I don't know.
I too look for that one gem in a haystack. But that's because there are so many attractive girls, and I want to find the very best.
But I go a couple of months or more in between club visits due to where I live, and in that interim, I would gladly take any or most of the girls (except Sylvana) if I could.
Most of the Sharks girls either had a face I didnt like, or a body that I didnt like. There was 3 or 4 exceptions that I could go with though. But it seemed like a needle in a haystack when there were 100 girls around in one room :)
Suppose you did not have to pay. Suppose you met any of the Sharks girls in a bar, restaurant, somewhere. The girl was willing to give a blow job, fuck, and perhaps indulge kinkier desires. How many of those girls would you reject and say, "sorry I don't find you pretty or interesting, I don't want to fuck you, or receive a blow job from you" etc
My view is that compared to the average punter, most of the girls are at a more desirable, attractive level, if money was taken out of the equation. Most punters would gladly take 90% of the girls, if free. In the outside world, few punters have any shot at any of those 20 year old lasses. I am talking about the average guy in the club, you may be much better I don't know.
I too look for that one gem in a haystack. But that's because there are so many attractive girls, and I want to find the very best.
But I go a couple of months or more in between club visits due to where I live, and in that interim, I would gladly take any or most of the girls (except Sylvana) if I could.I still would turn down about half of them actually, but you are right, it is a long way up from just going with 5% of them.
Surely money is one part of the equation. Another well as important point is time. I am like you, I don't go to these clubs every week, so I want to make the most out of my time, and then the standards goes up. In every club there is a few girls better than the other girls, or some girls of one particular type I feel like going with that particular night. After too many sessions with a blonde, I normally feel like going for a brunette, and vice versa for example. Same goes for certain body shapes. I look at appearance first, and then final selection goes towards how friendly the girl is, or how easy she is to talk to.
Finding the best fish in the pond can normally be said everywhere, but you can also fish in another pond, and that makes competition even fiercer for these girls.
Last point is that you have so much sex at these clubs, that your hormone levels fall, raising your requirements even further the more you have sex with these girls.
TankTank123
12-13-15, 05:27
I went on a 1 week holiday to Romania 2 years ago. Maybe I have become too used to the facial features of Romanian girls after having spent much time in FKKs in the past, but I found that there was a very much higher proportion of Romanian girls (in Bucharest, Contanta, Brasov and Sibiu) that I found attractive compared to girls I see in say London, Paris, Frankfurt, Sydney, New York, SF. It was so frustrating then not to be able to go to them and ask them for a session, for which I think I would have been prepared to pay 2-3 times FKK rates.
So I agree that while in an FKK, one tends to become far more picky, as I would begrudge even pretty ones a 50 euro session, if they did not match better looking ones available.
My view is that compared to the average punter, most of the girls are at a more desirable, attractive level, if money was taken out of the equation. Most punters would gladly take 90% of the girls, if free. In the outside world, few punters have any shot at any of those 20 year old lasses. I am talking about the average guy in the club, you may be much better I don't know.
That is stretching it for me. We get used to a certain standard of looks for face and figure in mongering and normal lives. It's hard for me to go much outside what I am used to, even if free. I don't see myself accepting much more than 70% to 80%, unless I really feel sorry for a girl and do a charity fuck. In the end though, we have to get excited enough to be able to fuck.
I have knocked back a free fuck in my life on admittedly rare occasions, so I do not write hypothetically. Some of us would rather pay for something better than take a free one, and do not have the energy to fuck absolutely everything available.
I was once offered a freebie in an FKK by a bored girl (no 20 YO) but knocked it back due to having a far more exciting girl in mind to fuck. It's like if you have set your mind that you have to try Janine, but some old bag comes along and says take me for free instead, but you simply must have Janine.
I guess guys are more into taking anything at all, when options do not exist. Also some of us are actually getting more picky as we get older. I puzzle how I could have fucked some girls done over 20 years ago when I look at photos of them. Would not take some of them if wound the clock back, even for free.
BarryManila
12-13-15, 09:23
Some of us would rather pay for something better than take a free one, and do not have the energy to fuck absolutely everything available.Beside that it's a proven fact that men, used to visit prostitutes for a long time, are feeling much better when they have to pay for sex. It means that many married men of us would have a much better sex life with their wives at home, if they would pay 50 or 100 dollars to them in advance. LOL.
I was once offered a freebie in an FKK by a bored girl (no 20 YO) but knocked it back due to having a far more exciting girl in mind to fuck. It's like if you have set your mind that you have to try Janine, but some old bag comes along and says take me for free instead, but you simply must have Janine.
Haha, I, glad to see that you got yr priority straight. Maybe she was offering you a freebie to get you hooked, LOL.
Beside that it's a proven fact that men, used to visit prostitutes for a long time, are feeling much better when they have to pay for sex. It means that many married men of us would have a much better sex life with their wives at home, if they would pay 50 or 100 dollars to them in advance. LOL.Proven fact rly? LOL.
If the wife doesn't work the guy have to give her monthly allowance, holidays, luxury bags etc etc.
Yeah for those married should start trying to give them 50 E before the action and see if the service improves, LOL.
Finnish Fucker
12-13-15, 14:03
That is stretching it for me. We get used to a certain standard of looks for face and figure in mongering and normal lives. It's hard for me to go much outside what I am used to, even if free. I don't see myself accepting much more than 70% to 80%, unless I really feel sorry for a girl and do a charity fuck. In the end though, we have to get excited enough to be able to fuck.
I have knocked back a free fuck in my life on admittedly rare occasions, so I do not write hypothetically. Some of us would rather pay for something better than take a free one, and do not have the energy to fuck absolutely everything available.
I was once offered a freebie in an FKK by a bored girl (no 20 YO) but knocked it back due to having a far more exciting girl in mind to fuck. It's like if you have set your mind that you have to try Janine, but some old bag comes along and says take me for free instead, but you simply must have Janine.
I guess guys are more into taking anything at all, when options do not exist. Also some of us are actually getting more picky as we get older. I puzzle how I could have fucked some girls done over 20 years ago when I look at photos of them. Would not take some of them if wound the clock back, even for free.
You are a 60 year old geezer head deep in the w-hore world. You have no fucking chance for a 20-30 year old western freebie girls anymore (neither do I).
-FF
P.S. Here is a finnish student that we get occasionally from Helsinki bars when they are drunk.
Comvos2002
12-13-15, 14:35
Hi guys,
Did anybody see in the club Jessica, Ro, silicon breasts, ex World?
Called a few times but Sharks gives no info about the ladies working on that day.
I see no reports about her and she used to be a great performer.
Thank you.
Member #4581
12-13-15, 15:36
My comment was originally in response to the idea that only a small percentage of the girls at Sharks are fuckable. Now, I have been guilty of saying something similar, about Artemis for example. As Pistons said in his reply, it is all about context. When in the club, we are pressured to find the very best 4,5 girls and the rest seem below doable standards. But my point was to say look at the larger context.
And again, this was about the average punter vs average FKK girl. Any individual here might be much better. I am happy to admit I have no illusions about myself, but thankfully I have enough $$$ to compensate, LOL.
What do we see about the average punter? First, the he average punter seem clearly older than average male population. The 20-30 or even 20-35 age group is severely underrepresented. Secondly, being in shape. Again, I am sorry to say, and I have seen this in the showers, the average punters don't seem to be in great shape. That's my observation anyway.
As for the girls, 80-90% are below 30. Several close to 20. That is a massive tilt in the good direction compared to average female outside. Second, being in shape. Despite what people say, even the bottom quartile FKK girl beats the average woman shopper in the grocery store hands down. As for face, that is subjective, but I still put my money on FKK girls being in the top quintile.
Syz and Pistons make the other point, which is entirely fair, that after shagging so many attractive Fkk girls, we are so used to a higher quality, we might reject a slightly lower quality girl and go w/o sex. That is a personal choice, and I am probably in that camp myself (going w/o sex part, not rejecting the girls part, lol)
A problem arises if these girls notice that you like them more than the other girls. Some of them may then ask for more money as they kinda know their worth. So the tricky part is to not let them realise what Syz is talking about. Having them think it is all a charity fuck (yet still treat them well) may be the best thing that can happen.
'Knowing their worth' is another thing that also dilutes over time as you fuck more. Their worth at fuck #1 is probably higher than at fuck #5 as you are much hornier during #1, yet you do #5 as a rollercoaster ride. Yet a girl you have gone with before several times may feel that her worth is higher on fuck #5 as compared to fuck #1, but she is wrong, it is the other way around and a paradox :)
Moving further along on that thought a problem arises if you have turned down a girl say 3 or 5 times. Then suddenly you want to go with her. But she has stopped approaching you as she thinks she is not/never your type. Then you have to approach her, and having her think it is still a charity fuck will get difficult. Which is why I never completely turn down a girl at these clubs. Even fat girls can shape up and become stunners. Who knows right?
PussyLiccker
12-13-15, 16:11
Jnpr:
I see your point, but I see it another way as my punting style is different. There are times I'd rather not take a girl if I don't run into the right girl, but that's because I visit various clubs. The whole point for spending my hard earned money at these clubs is to find a girl that is highly desirable. Girls that would easily turn heads, and be like holy shit! Epitome is a stunner, but a pretty girl if those types are not found (If the LU down, I will not be such a stickler). Some of us have a type of girl in mind as an ideal type. Of course part of the draw is varying looks of the girls, and with that variation, the one that fit perfectly as a highly desirable is the easy pick. I don't mean I have an exact girl in mind, but with the variation you find ones with all types of looks, and girls can look desirable in different ways. Fit perfectly in different ways. That's the draw for me. The moment I spot her, that's gets my excitement going, and further enhanced with a good to greater level of service. You nailed it when you said we are paying. Free would be different, but since payment is involved, that motivates me to pick the best for the money. This can also depend on how frequently you are able to attend the clubs. If you can attend frequently like a regular to a club, with what you say, you'd probably session with more girls. But, there are others that can't attend regularly. Being limited in time translates to being limited in number of shots/sessions. But, with your reasoning, would you pick any girl, but Syvania? Wouldn't you still pick the most desirable girl among choices with the limited visit since there is a choice of 80+ girls?
With Piston's reasoning, it would be, there are more options than one club, and with those options, a club can have more desirable girls than another. If you are locked to one club, that's the LU you are aware of. You visit two, could be that one maybe a better fit for your taste over the other. Your perspective on the LU rides on your ideals, various types of girls seen/met, clubs visited, and etc.
Now, I've not mentioned service side of things, but for me optics has more weight than services, but that doesn't mean I will tolerate below avg to crap services. I see it as balancing of the two like a seesaw. Incline toward optics is fine, and can equate to fully balanced at times. Epitome is an stunner with great services!
Sebastiane
12-13-15, 16:34
This is an interesting discussion which could be true for any FKK. Is it possible for the admin to move it to the lounge? I find myself agreeing more with Jnpr: Although I am younger than most of the guys I see in FKK I am in my 40's and it is increasingly harder to get dates in real life with girls in their early 20's. We in FKKs are indeed living in a fantasy world and are spoilt beyond belief. Sure there are a few girls I'd turn down for free in real life but not many. However, I do think that having so much sex with pros who are 20 years or more younger than us and in beautifully physical condition does effect us in that this becomes the standard by which we judge all girls and most girls in the real world don't match up to the girls in FKKs. Those who do, unless you're very very good looking or rich or both (or famous) won't go with 95% of the mongers at FKKs. Sure some of them will be players with natural seduction skills but then- if you're such a player and can get this high quality pussy for free. Then what are you doing in an FKK?
I think this has been discussed before but people who visit FKKs must be effected in the long run in their views of sexuality and what turns them on and the effect of FKK use on real-life relationships.
It would make an interesting PhD dissertation!
What happens to FKK long -term users if, one day, the money suddenly vanishes (business crashes or one becomes jobless or whatever?) How would a 50 year old man, average looking at best, who is used to sleeping with 20 year old Eastern European beauties for 20 years, suddenly cope?
I don't know about the others but I thank my stars every time I am in an FKK. For most people it is a only a fantasy. I think many people -- most -- are unaware of even the existence of these places!
Funny anecdote: I am not German but have been with FKK girls enough that I start to speak in German sometimes when I am having sex with non-FKK girls too. How weird is that? And my preference is now for girls who look like FKK girls.
Citizen Kane
12-13-15, 18:18
Hi guys,
Did anybody see in the club Jessica, Ro, silicon breasts, ex World?
Called a few times but Sharks gives no info about the ladies working on that day.
I see no reports about her and she used to be a great performer.
Thank you.Last saw her a week and a half ago. She's called Madi at Sharks. Works everyday except Monday's but doesn't start until 17:00-19:00.
She said she would be taking a 'short' break over Christmas / NY but didn't specify dates.
What happens to FKK long -term users if, one day, the money suddenly vanishes (business crashes or one becomes jobless or whatever?) How would a 50 year old man, average looking at best, who is used to sleeping with 20 year old Eastern European beauties for 20 years, suddenly cope?I'll put this different way. You are 50+ years old. All your debts paid years ago. All kids grew up and now on their own. So you can accept more relaxing position and sit back because your needs are getting modest.
But if you are a FKK fan, you could not allow relaxing life. You have to make more money to pay travel expenses and rooms with the girls. You work harder than young men that just build their careers. But your experience is much greater than young men. Your efforts are more valuable. This is exactly about me. FKK addiction keeps me working hard in my 55 because I need more money to spend them in Frankfurt.
Conclusion: FKK is the greatest stimulator of economy growth. LOL.
Can you guys help me I'm planning a trip to Frankfurt and want to go soon but I live in LOS Angeles and they have pretty hot escorts on sites like humaniplex and also have Tijuana near by I'm pretty sure they have hot girls but are some really mind blowing type, every time I look on some partytreff sites I see some not so attractive girls mostly Romanian is there a chance I visit and think nothing much about it or do they have girls like maybe porn star Madelyn Marie or early Jessica Simpson types what do you guys think?
Thanks
What happens to FKK long -term users if, one day, the money suddenly vanishes (business crashes or one becomes jobless or whatever?) How would a 50 year old man, average looking at best, who is used to sleeping with 20 year old Eastern European beauties for 20 years, suddenly cope?
Ha ha! Yes we have indeed been wrecked by our consistent experience with young beautiful girls, and a lot of money has floated away. The very rich guys retire, or work very little and can visit FKK on a nearly daily basis. We are wrecked, because free sex offered by girls closer to our own age becomes un-appealing. One girl I fucked occasionally for 20 years, doesn't really appeal any more, because her face looks have deteriorated, and her body is still okay But declined a bit. I am too beauty oriented, made worse by years of mongering. I may not do her ever again. She is too far behind my regular partner now in looks.
I am trying to persuade myself of the reality that I can go several days without sex, and even if I have the opportunity, I can resist it. A fuck is after all only a short lived temporary gratification. I take longer sessions so its not too short lived (and take a long time to cum anyway).
I have stayed away from hookers for several weeks on occasions this year, even when I can see them on the street corner. However temptations are still beating me regularly. So my short term aim is to just cut down, and do some other things. Set an allowed budget for it. Maybe it's doomed to failure like cutting down cigarettes, LOL. I do have a much younger partner who is still very hot, who can help me forget when she is around. She unfortunately doesn't have same sex appetite as me. She will be never be an everyday provider. If I could get her to want it 4 days a week, I would be really happy with that.
Sybarite: you don't need a study for that. Hormone levels comes back over time. It is more a medical thing than an environmental issue.
What happens to FKK long -term users if, one day, the money suddenly vanishes (business crashes or one becomes jobless or whatever?) How would a 50 year old man, average looking at best, who is used to sleeping with 20 year old Eastern European beauties for 20 years, suddenly cope?
.You start writing a book about yr experience as a FKK jedi. The book becomes a bestseller and you can continue / awaken the fuck, LOL.
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Conclusion: FKK is the greatest stimulator of economy growth. LOL.Haha yeah FKK motivates me to work harder indeed 😆.
Was there from around 12.00 to 01.00 (The entire day).
Working out a list from this forum didn't turn out to help me that much unfortunately. For my next visit I will learn from my mistake, doing more research and try to get some explanation about looks for the girls that are know to provide good GFE before I come there. For me, which only can make 2-3 of these types of trips each year (Where most of them go to to Prague), I really think it will be a even better experience from me.
Sadly, I had a problem with my phone so the names I had wrote down was deleted. I will try to do my best anyway:
Selena (Celina?
Thin blonde girl. She wore pretty big black glasses. Very small tits. Mediocre in the room.
Dontremember name.
She had long light brown hair, wore glasses and a pretty bright lipstick. She also had a really classic looking face. She would be the perfect poster girl for a secretary.
Also mediocre in the room.
Dontremember name #2 .
It's very embarrassing to not remember the names, especially this girl. Long black hair, she claimed to be half Italian and half Romanian. She din't spoke English too well, but she spoke Italian and Spanish. Her German was also better than her English. She also had a tattoo with the name "Rafael" which she said was her son on her right top part of the chest. Even with our problems communicating it was a fantastic session. Does anyone here know her name? It would be highly appreciated.
I was also looking for Moira the entire day / night. Does anyone know if she was there Saturday? Girls like her and the incredible 1/2 Italian 1/2 Romanian girl which I hope someone can provide me the name for are reasons enough to visit Frankfurt again.
Thanks for the help with great reports in this forum.
Can you guys help me I'm planning a trip to Frankfurt and want to go soon but I live in LOS Angeles and they have pretty hot escortsFKKs don't have model-level girls; read any thread and in 1 or 3 pages some punter will say he went and there were fatties, average, and ' bad optics'. Most monger are 55+ if not 65+ and their opinion of a 10 and a 30 yr old guys opinions are day / night.
Globe Club and Club Aphrodisia in Zurich have better girls, Aphro has confirmed models but its $280.
I am from LA (and 22 yrs in NYC before that) and was just in Zurich last week, see my report on that forum.
I am in my 40's and it is increasingly harder to get dates in real life with girls in their early 20's.....
Sure some of them will be players with natural seduction skills but then- if you're such a player and can get this high quality pussy for free. Then what are you doing in an FKK?Checkout online dating. Its changed 100000% since the days of using your PC to click on profiles; with Apps many show up in minutes.
Read my posts about online dating last year.
Most 40+ year old have six figure jobs, own apt / homes, cars, and can travel any time v. 20's boys who live w / Mom, are broke, and play video games all day or are high.
So, to 20's girls a fit, successful 40+ year has a lot going for him.
For under $20/ fuck you could be mixing cocktails in your home with 20's gals if you commit to mass-marketing yourself w / online dating apps.
Problem, is once you conquer the 6-8's 20's gals of online dating; you become addicted to wanting 9-11's, which are only attainable at 40+ at elite FKKs like Globe / Aprho.
Member #4581
12-15-15, 01:08
How much do you pay to the humaniplex girls? I never used them, but took a look after you mentioned here. Some look ok, but not all, and also faces blacked out, so can't tell. As I said here before, I have not mongered much or at all in the US, but am very familiar with LA strip clubs, and used to frequent them a lot (although it has been a while now) such as Bare Elegance in Inglewood, cheetahs, Deja Vu, a club close to the airport I forgot it's name (used to have a big sign nude, nude on it), and back in the day Bob's Classy Lady up in (Van Nuys as I remember). I can tell you, the FKK girls at Sharks can definitely hold their own against the strip club girls on body and face both, fully nude all the time all 50 to 100 of them, and available for a fuck and more for 50 right here and now. Can't go wrong.
As for porn stars, not seen many in person of late, but again in the strip clubs, some porn stars used to come and dance - such as PJ Sparxx, leena, Teri weigel, Asia Carrera, Kelly Odell, Lexus Locklear, Savannah, etc etc. I even had lap dance from some, for a whopping 50 or more for a single song. Again, I think you will not be disappointed with Fkk girls. My biasekd opinion anyway.
Don't get me wrong, the best girls from some of these strip clubs were so gorgeous, Fkk girls are not as good as them. There was this drop dead gorgeous blonde, perfectly my spec, at Bob's who I would have given my left ear to shag. Also, the prettiest porn star I ever saw in person was Janine Lindemulder, just when she was starting her porn career and not too long after she was Penthouse Pet (Way before she got tattooed up and became a biker *****) and I have never seen any girl in the Fkks who was as good as a young Lindemulder. But back then she was fucking Vince Neil and would not even look at regular Joes like me.
But if we are talking normal strippers and typical porn stars, Fkk girls are darned good.
Can you guys help me I'm planning a trip to Frankfurt and want to go soon but I live in LOS Angeles and they have pretty hot escorts on sites like humaniplex and also have Tijuana near by I'm pretty sure they have hot girls but are some really mind blowing type, every time I look on some partytreff sites I see some not so attractive girls mostly Romanian is there a chance I visit and think nothing much about it or do they have girls like maybe porn star Madelyn Marie or early Jessica Simpson types what do you guys think?
Thanks
UltraHappy
12-15-15, 02:18
Can you guys help me I'm planning a trip to Frankfurt and want to go soon but I live in LOS Angeles and they have pretty hot escorts on sites like humaniplex and also have Tijuana near by I'm pretty sure they have hot girls but are some really mind blowing type, every time I look on some partytreff sites I see some not so attractive girls mostly Romanian is there a chance I visit and think nothing much about it or do they have girls like maybe porn star Madelyn Marie or early Jessica Simpson types what do you guys think?
ThanksPartyreff is low end of the scale. Prettiest girls won't be in Partyreff. So, you shouldn't base your FKK-expectations on Partyreff photos.
Second, for someone like myself who doesn't especially care for the Latina look, FKK has Tijuana beat hands down. You simply can't find a nice looking Romanian-looking girl in Tijuana.
Escorts are nice, but nothing beats the FKK all round experience.
The only way you will know for sure is to try all of them and see which one you like.
As an ardent FKK-fan, I strongly recommend you try FKK, even given all the caveats you shared with us.
Sharks would be a good start for your FKK career (just not on a Sunday please). Don't forget to include Oase in your FKK tour, as your FKK tour wouldn't be complete without that gem.
Let us know how it turns out.
How much do you pay to the humaniplex girls? I never used them, but took a look after you mentioned here. Some look ok, but not all, and also faces blacked out, so can't tell. As I said here before, I have not mongered much or at all in the US, but am very familiar with LA strip clubs, and used to frequent them a lot (although it has been a while now) such as Bare Elegance in Inglewood, cheetahs, Deja Vu, a club close to the airport I forgot it's name (used to have a big sign nude, nude on it), and back in the day Bob's Classy Lady up in (Van Nuys as I remember). I can tell you, the FKK girls at Sharks can definitely hold their own against the strip club girls on body and face both, fully nude all the time all 50 to 100 of them, and available for a fuck and more for 50 right here and now. Can't go wrong.
As for porn stars, not seen many in person of late, but again in the strip clubs, some porn stars used to come and dance - such as PJ Sparxx, leena, Teri weigel, Asia Carrera, Kelly Odell, Lexus Locklear, Savannah, etc etc. I even had lap dance from some, for a whopping 50 or more for a single song. Again, I think you will not be disappointed with Fkk girls. My biasekd opinion anyway..Humaniplex has some really great girls that come and go but the pictures unlike backpage or some other sites are very trustworthy and not to expensive 150 to 200 hh some model material here and there but either way I seem to be really happy with it, but I like the brothel scene it looks fun, so if the girls just looked like girls from that site ID be pretty happy, I just always have a feeling I might come to Germany and think its so so and not be mind blown like a lot of guys make it out to be, and I wish some one can change my thinking either way I plan on going soon but would go sooner if that was confirmed, basically do they have classy girls like at the 4 play strip club in la or Vegas rhino I know reading the forums a lot of guys say the FKK girls surpass them but then some reports say the lineup was weak so these mixed reports get me confused what to really expect, BTW are the girls from the sharks website all available, a lot of guys mentioned blonde Roxanna but what about the girl next to her with the black hair and fake tits and stockings anyone know anything about her thanks for the help.
Partyreff is low end of the scale. Prettiest girls won't be in Partyreff. So, you shouldn't base your FKK-expectations on Partyreff photos.
Second, for someone like myself who doesn't especially care for the Latina look, FKK has Tijuana beat hands down. You simply can't find a nice looking Romanian-looking girl in Tijuana.
Escorts are nice, but nothing beats the FKK all round experience.
The only way you will know for sure is to try all of them and see which one you like.
As an ardent FKK-fan, I strongly recommend you try FKK, even given all the caveats you shared with us.
Sharks would be a good start for your FKK career (just not on a Sunday please). Don't forget to include Oase in your FKK tour, as your FKK tour wouldn't be complete without that gem.
Let us know how it turns out.I actually really like Latina and prefer them but I also like blondes, before I went to Hong Kong in Tijuana I also felt like I read mixed reports but when I came there it was exactly what I hoped it to be, so from reading the forums here I'm expecting the FKK scene to hopefully exceed my expectations, it just feels like the FKK scene was really good maybe 10 years ago and now it isn't the same, because there mostly Romanians, don't get me wrong I have seen some hot blonde Romanians even in Miami so I know they could be very hot or the Romanian singer Inna, I just hope they don't have that gypsy look with a lot of tattoos that I see on the partytreff sites but look like the Romanian porn star sensual Jane, would the girls compare to her thanks.
Now,
UltraHappy
12-15-15, 04:12
I actually really like Latina and prefer them but I also like blondes, before I went to Hong Kong in Tijuana I also felt like I read mixed reports but when I came there it was exactly what I hoped it to be, so from reading the forums here I'm expecting the FKK scene to hopefully exceed my expectations, it just feels like the FKK scene was really good maybe 10 years ago and now it isn't the same, because there mostly Romanians, don't get me wrong I have seen some hot blonde Romanians even in Miami so I know they could be very hot or the Romanian singer Inna, I just hope they don't have that gypsy look with a lot of tattoos that I see on the partytreff sites but look like the Romanian porn star sensual Jane, would the girls compare to her thanks.
Now,Ok you win. We are now issuing you a guarantee and warranty that the FKK women will meet your criteria. If it turns out that you are not 100% satisfied with the FKK scene, just post your report here and we'll send you a refund check in the mail for your troubles.
If you don't like tats, then stay away from Palace in Frankfurt and Artemis in Berlin and you'll be fine. Me, I don't like tats either. As long as you stay away from Palace and Artemis, and stick to Sharks and Oase, you'll find that tatted girls are by far the minority (although some do exist).
As your questions don't appear to be specific to Sharks, you would probably be better off moving this discussion to the FKK Lounge and Chat thread.
Member #4581
12-15-15, 04:15
A few FKK girls sport tats but not excessive and not all girls either. I would say generally pretty clean on the whole.
Haven't been to Vegas Rhino in a while, but I mentioned several LA clubs as a reference. I have no idea how long you have been in LA, but in early 90's, Bob's Classy Lady had the creme de la creme of LA strippers, and also used to headline the biggest porn stars at that time every week. In comparison, sharks FKK girls compare well to the middle to above average of the stripper girls of that club, although the very best of the strippers were probably better in general (however, those girls were not available for mongering, not even for 500 an hour).
I have been to the best of Miami strip clubs, like scarletts and tootsies, and trust me, sharks is way better.
As UH said, if you trek to sharks, Oase, and perhaps MH and world, you will find enough to tickle your fancy.
With most American strippers and porn stars becoming fatter by the day, this discussion comparing them with FKK girls is a complete useless topic. For example, I used to take a 19 year old super beautiful super hot porn star to SMI near Palm Springs about 3 years back, that was so much fun. Now she's so fat (well, I don't like an inch of extra fat, so that may be part of the problem LOL), I wouldn't even do her a charity fuck. Too bad for both of us. Unfortunately, this is the reality in most of the USA, including LA, San Francisco or New York.
So. Stop worrying too much about quality of FKK girls, just go enjoy in free spirits for 3-4 days, and you will understand what you are missing out in the Land of the Free. I'm glad that I did that jump back in 2005. Amen!
Hessen Bub
12-15-15, 08:41
Most monger are 55+ if not 65+ and their opinion of a 10 and a 30 yr old guys opinions are day / night.That's not true, average monger in German FKK is no way 55 plus.
HB.
Gaolegao366
12-15-15, 09:03
Hi guys,
I am planning go to go to sharks either Wednesday or Thursday. Just want to know which day the LU will be better or LU are just OK those days.
Hi guys,
I am planning go to go to sharks either Wednesday or Thursday. Just want to know which day the LU will be better or LU are just OK those days.Not sure about the LU at Sharks on a Wednesday compared to a Thursday, but the LU at Oase is deffinately better on a Thursday than a Wednesday. You won't get the double six roll shot at a free visit at Oase, but you'll get lingerie night there instead.
Hi guys,
I am planning go to go to sharks either Wednesday or Thursday. Just want to know which day the LU will be better or LU are just OK those days.Usually, better on Wednesday or Friday.
First time in an FKK. Been to Colombia, Brazil, Panama, etc. Also have had a lot of luck with regular girls when I was younger and had the time.
I got stopped at the airport to "prove" that I had an outbound ticket. My cell phone data wasn't working yet and I couldn't download my email. Dude started giving me shit so I mentioned that 1 M refugees were poring over their southern border, so he prolly had worse problems to worry about. He agreed and let me go. WTF?
First of all, holy smokes. These chicas are unbelievably beautiful. About 30 there. A few stayed busy but most were available. Lot of fat hairy dudes there. Only a few young guys. Saw a few guys get shot down, gently if that's possible. I was approached by perhaps 20 of the women. One weird Asian chick with ugly bolt ONS prowled the entire club constantly. Like a dog on a chain in a circle. Not an attractive approach, at all. She tapped my shoulder without even stopping and gestured upstairs. Me: "No thanks!..Why do you go if you don't like Germany and Germans? Like those who go to FKK but don't like Romanian girls. Go where you like. I don't go to countries I don't like.
Don't you know the song "still loving you" , not released by Aerosmith, nor Eminem. You never heard of Kraftwerk? Karajan? Nina Hagen? Where do you live? In Salt Lake city?
Even a French with grandparents who were children in 1914/1918 , hearing them screaming and speaking loudly from nightmares when sleeping when they were very old, can appreciate how Germans are courteous and how I am always welcome by Germans, even if I am only able to say "bitte" and "danke" . French are not as courteous and I m not sure for many US. Russian are not so courteous with foreigners.
For those who don't like Romanian girls, don't go to FKK.
For our superwoman Sylvana. It who go to room with the youngest and best looking clients, when young beauties have often old fat clients, you don't know what you missed, but you have to know she is Danish wife.
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