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But why then is the divorce only happening now, when you have been writing your marvellous reports of pussylicking of Romanian girls for so many years and she had been loyally reading all of them?Dina is afraid of getting too many big O's with YY. LOL.
YamaYama0519
11-29-16, 23:49
But why then is the divorce only happening now.....The latest time we were in a room was last May, when she told me she knew I called her my FKK wife in my ISG reports. She then probably read all my reports of May, and made up her mind to stay away from me, LOL.
Member #4585
11-30-16, 00:03
The latest time we were in a room was last May, when she told me she knew I called her my FKK wife in my ISG reports. She then probably read all my reports of May, and made up her mind to stay away from me, LOL.Dina's memory is long and her reach is far. . She held that grudge for 6 long months that you were ingratiating yourself with the pussies of Romanians and she did not want any more to do with that. I am sure now Dina will be reading the very public discussion of your divorce from her which she can take up with you the next time you visit Sharks when she is present.
I missed seeing you at Oase when we were both in the club.
Carry on giving orgasms my friend.
Dina's memory is long and her reach is far. . She held that grudge for 6 long months that you were ingratiating yourself with the pussies of Romanians and she did not want any more to do with that. I am sure now Dina will be reading the very public discussion of your divorce from her which she can take up with you the next time you visit Sharks when she is present.Dina is probably one of the smartest girls I've met at any FKK. I don't think there is any bad intent from Dina, but I honestly think she just get tired of the same guys over time. Unless you have some outside value to her, her attitude towards you will fade over time. So that plus when you catch her in a bad mood is "bye bye" for her.
I know for a fact that she is one of the few girls that actually really likes the job, and I think she actually like to meet new nice guys to fuck. If you are her favor of the month then you'll get the VIP Dina treatment, but it won't last. Someone has said she doesn't treat her long time customers nicely, but I think she's just looking for new dick and is sick of the old. Haha!
Cool girl to talk to when she is in the mood.
I feel Dina is getting too much now. Fact is that tons of girls at these clubs are constantly trying to pull the same trick on lots of guys. And Dina's take on it is mild compared to other incidents I either have heard of, or experienced myself.
Yes, it blows the way it is done, but if Dina is reading this forum as YY claims, she would also have read some weeks back that a few (unnamed) romanians had taken the exact same approach towards her. So in that context it makes sense and she has backings. But we never will know who starts these disputes. And it is probably just one or two romanians also. Not the whole lot. She just doesnt know which ones...
As I have said before, for me to stay with just one girl at these clubs (as lots of girls are trying to lure me into), it would require a hell of a lot of extras from their side. lol
Hessen Bub
11-30-16, 01:27
I still see girls driven up to the glass entrance doors to the building and some girls dropped off at the drive way entrance and the girl has to walk the 100 or so meters to the club entrance and some girls actually walk along the public road to start work at the club.
Then as you have reported some girls are happy to leave the club with their customers while they wait at Reception for each other to get changed into street clothes. Well relaxed management.Rule for girls to be dropped off by private drivers of BF is outside on the street, a few meters off the Sharks sign. Taxis drop the girls next to the entrance. I've not seen girls leave with customers openly at the reception or getting into their cars in front of the reception.
HB.
Spent 12½ hrs of wellness and debauchery from Saturday 3 pm to Sunday 3. 30 am. Had briefed myself reading the reports of the last 2 months for which I'm highly grateful to the contributors. As a respectable sybarite I feasted on the rich and fabulous buffet, had long naps, a professional massage over 1 HR, enjoyed the whirpools, had nasty and highly tingling room sessions.
The line-up was amazing. Hard to beat that huge amount of attractive, cute, lovely, young women. Of course there were also the ubiquitous substantial contingent of heavily tatooed and pimped bitches, let alone the dyed and bleached Gypsy bunch. By any means I was spoilt for choice. Though I don't fancy number acrobatics the felt ratio must have been 3:1. One would call it a buyer's market; unfortunately one based on a rigid price structure.
Dina, Hungarian. Observed the scenery from upstairs for a while as I got fascinated by her provoking smile. What a gorgeous queen! Went directly to the bar were she was seating fully naked with her legs on another stool. Greeted and kissed her hand after which we interchanged the usual information. I noticed her insistence on making sure before hand what will be on the room menu. Took one of the huts upstairs. Started off kissing, licking and sucking her entire body. Excepting the mouth, oh well! Got down to the holy of holiest and kept licking and sucking for ages. Her juices were flowing during which she uttered weak moaning sounds. The more I kissed, sucked and licked, the tastier it became. Divine! At a certain point I was exhausted and turned on my back expecting a blowjob which didn't follow. I was reluctant to insist on it as I didn't want to disturb the flowing harmony. Condom had been unpacked and rolled on after which I asked her to climb on me. Pumped her from below till I climaxed groaning heavily. Cuddled with my head immersed into her magnificent boobs till I recovered. 1 HR /100 EUR.
Vivian, Romanian. I noticed this babe during the evening. Pretty face, leggy, cute perky peach-shape titties. Was watching the scenery from upstairs again as she came up teasing single guests on her way. She approached and embraced me from behind. Had a nasty chat; there was immediately an erotic tension established. She's the typical Latin chick: talking loudly, slightly vulgar and provoking. Headed off to the Kamasutra room downstairs (on her insistent suggestion). Sensual touches. Had her fingernails gliding everywhere on my body; especilly on my ears, nipples and balls. The party continued with a mind blowing passionate and skillful oral treatment. All the time she displayed a provoking manner saying nice and dirty words alternatively. As soon as the rubber cap was on she asked me in an ordering tone to render my performance. Pure provocation! Took her the missionary way with her legs on my shoulders and screwd her into delirium (at least my delirium as I unloaded intensively). Cuddled for a while after which she asked me to caress her back with my fingers. I obliged happily. 1½hrs /150 EUR.
So Anja is not at Sharks anymore?I had good times this summer with her. Especially on the GFE side. I miss this magic.
Then she was a bit too much on testing my kindness after refusing to exchange phones to check her presence or place when I'm in Germany. Will not know if it was a 'no test'. Last time she told me I don't understand her. With this behavior, i will not ask again.
I (try to) stop play with people saying ying and yang alltogether, especially in pay time wich 99% means a total lost of money. When I pay, I appreciate the GFE smile, DFK, sexual thingS (upto noko), not the sleeping, useless talk, massage side unless inclusive upto...
One of sirio sharks girl has been the queen this year. Beautiful but really naturally unrespectfull in service.
TankTank123
11-30-16, 02:45
Yes, it blows the way it is done, but if Dina is reading this forum as YY claims, she would also have read some weeks back that a few (unnamed) romanians had taken the exact same approach towards her. So in that context it makes sense and she has backings. But we never will know who starts these disputes. And it is probably just one or two romanians also. Not the whole lot. She just doesnt know which ones...3 months ago, Dina told me that a particular Romanian clique was being unfriendly to her, and that these particular girls were not hygienic. Maybe YamaYama wrote about his pussylicking exploits with one or more these specific girls and this was what she actually objects to, rather than the pussylicking of Romanian girls in general.
So bad that Diana give you a bad encounter. Was it a 50 euro session or did you opt for 100 euro minimum and she still did not work enough to satisfy your demands?
Diana, for me, when services are discussed up front, gives a great service. She can over time be made to act more girlfriend like. She really tells it like it is which is refreshing. I mean she has a lot of intelligence on what is going on in the club.50 e and I asked her if she kissed etc but she didn't want to honour the deal so I couldn't stay 1 h. The thing is that if its good I wud stay 1 h and perhaps even repeat the same day.
Pretty much the same routine and I expected more girls but was kinda dissapointed with the LU. Was hoping to see some of my favs but saw non of them. Was struggling to make a choice and later when Mandy came over to talk I decided to check her out.
Mandy, blonde 160 cm normal body type. Point is that if I didn't knew she had good service from the reports I wouldn't even try her.
1 h with the normal stuff I enjoy. Repeat: yes.
There was 1 girl I was interested in and she was making pole dances but very amatuerish. Anyway seems like only kissing for 1 h so mission abort. Think I did the rite thing.
At the diner I saw a very pretty face gal but she was with a man otherwise I think I wud go over and ask her name. Didn't see her after that which I strange. Thought it was Nastia but wasnt sure.
Saw milana but she was busy talking to someone else and later prolly was with her guy that keep booking her for hrs. Also saw steffi and talked to her briefly.
Was rly bored bc there was no one I wanted to go with in the lounge for a long time. Saw a tall brunette sitting by herself but seems a little cold so didn't do anything. Was thinking about leaving but so went over to talk. Introduced herself as Nastia sure she got a nice body but woudnt consider her face exceptional. After taking of her bra you can see her perfect boobies, LOL.
There was another tallish girl but with small boobies that I considered but was too tired.
Will try to find that pretty face gal next time.
Member #4585
11-30-16, 03:11
50 e and I asked her if she kissed etc but she didn't want to honour the deal so I couldn't stay 1 h. The thing is that if its good I wud stay 1 h and perhaps even repeat the same day.Ok. This is why Diana is not a top Sharks girl when she can be. You know how good looking Diana is and how model like her body is being all proportional. She has the mantra that for 50 euro you get just a suck and fuck. No kiss or pussy licking. I expect she gave you this service level.
When you have made it clear to her you will spend 100 or more she changes arroach I found. Diana does give DFK and lets you play with her like an insisistent boyfriend wanting his mitts all over her fabulous body. Diana really is a beautiful girl.
Ok. This is why Diana is not a top Sharks girl when she can be. You know how good looking Diana is and how model like her body is being all proportional. She has the mantra that for 50 euro you get just a suck and fuck. No kiss or pussy licking. I expect she gave you this service level.
When you have made it clear to her you will spend 100 or more she changes arroach I found. Diana does give DFK and lets you play with her like an insisistent boyfriend wanting his mitts all over her fabulous body. Diana really is a beautiful girl.Well I kissed her not DFK but still and licked her pussy, LOL. Still it was an awful experience bc she kept saying 50 e more for kissing in the room after she confirmed kissing outside.
Lost my interest in her so won't ever consider going with her again. Lately I found it difficult to repeat girls want to try new girls. The repeat gets less excited than the 1st one no wonder married guys are tired of fucking their wives, haha.
Member #4585
11-30-16, 03:37
I had good times this summer with her. Especially on the GFE side. I miss this magic.
Then she was a bit too much on testing my kindness after refusing to exchange phones to check her presence or place when I'm in Germany. Will not know if it was a 'no test'. Last time she told me I don't understand her. With this behavior, i will not ask again.
I (try to) stop play with people saying ying and yang alltogether, especially in pay time wich 99% means a total lost of money. When I pay, I appreciate the GFE smile, DFK, sexual thingS (upto noko), not the sleeping, useless talk, massage side unless inclusive upto...
One of sirio sharks girl has been the queen this year. Beautiful but really naturally unrespectfull in service.Happy,
Anja is pretty with sensational tits that she jiggles around. She is free spiritted and likes to party. She does some cool stuff with customers when she likes them. For customers she does not get on with then the reception can be less the freezing.
I know already she offers two tiered pricing where certain services are included in the pricing and where for others the pricing would be extra for the same services.
She openly admits some customers she feels nothing for them and finds some customers really creepy and would go out of her way to refuse them.
The fact Anja did not honour you with her handy number is appalling.
Maybe it is better this way and she is gone. No great loss.
Member #4585
11-30-16, 03:42
Well I kissed her not DFK but still and licked her pussy, LOL. Still it was an awful experience bc she kept saying 50 e more for kissing in the room after she confirmed kissing outside.
Lost my interest in her so won't ever consider going with her again. Lately I found it difficult to repeat girls want to try new girls. The repeat gets less excited than the 1st one no wonder married guys are tired of fucking their wives, haha.Ok. I cannot legislate for Diana letting you kiss her but not DFK for 50. She also let you DATY her as well plus she suck you BBBJ and let you fuck her in many positions regardless of her asking for more money.
Yeah. I know. I realise I get bored with one pussy. So bad. I want to experience more pussies and assholes of girls and spurting my come on their faves to finish. Tying myself down to one lady is a total change in lifestyle. I know I will want to fuck something else within a couple of weeks.
I have to lead a clandestine life. It is all cloak and dagger.
Member #4585
11-30-16, 03:47
Rule for girls to be dropped off by private drivers of BF is outside on the street, a few meters off the Sharks sign. Taxis drop the girls next to the entrance. I've not seen girls leave with customers openly at the reception or getting into their cars in front of the reception.
HB.Ok. That explain the unusual practice I see of hookers getting dropped off by their posse at the entrance to the Sharks driveway rather than at the Reception doors. Yeah, it must have been taxis I saw dropping girls at the Reception.
Seriously, some girls do leave the club with customers from the reception. Azn has as he reported below and as reported by Carpe Viam and so have I.
Anja the Romanian / Albanian is a case in point. She makes it clear that she gives a different service to those she feels something connected and a lesser service for those she is indifferent to. Then Anja says there are the customers that she does not go with as she would be put off by them. So I guess what she is saying that you are privileged if she agrees to go with you to the room.....I don't think Anja is a YMMV girl. I can testify that.
I first met her in this July, one week after I broke up with the Hungarian star. Anja provided one of best sessions in my FKK journeys. Since then, we had been together for total 10 hours in eight sessions (she disappeared short period during this summer). Her services were very consistent. Some customers did not feel confident on her strikingly beautiful face, and they presumed that Anja could not provide good services. She was a victim from this presumption. So this is one of reasons that she was not as busy as she was supposed to be. She even got much less business than those Panda-Hunters, while to me, she is much better than Cosmina.
I feel kind of pity that she left for Globe, which means I would have to pay three times cost to see her. However I doubt she could make more money there. Ex-globe WGs Lena (might be Vivian) once told me that they actually made more net income in Sharks than in Globe. I will be on business trip to Zurich in near future. I decide to visit Globe to investigate possibility if Anja coming back. I will keep posted.
Anja the Romanian / Albanian is a case in point. She makes it clear that she gives a different service to those she feels something connected and a lesser service for those she is indifferent to. Then Anja says there are the customers that she does not go with as she would be put off by them. So I guess what she is saying that you are privileged if she agrees to go with you to the room.....I don't think Anja is a YMMV girl. I can testify that.
I first met her in this July, one week after I broke up with the Hungarian star. Anja provided one of best sessions in my FKK journeys. Since then, we had been together for total 10 hours in eight sessions (she disappeared short period during this summer). Her services were very consistent. Some customers did not feel confident on her strikingly beautiful face, and they presumed that Anja could not provide good services. She was a victim from this presumption. So this is one of reasons that she was not as busy as she was supposed to be. She even got much less business than those Panda-Hunters, while to me, she is much better than Cosmina.
I feel kind of pity that she left for Globe, which means I would have to pay three times cost to see her. However I doubt she could make more money there. Ex-globe WGs Lena (might be Vivian) once told me that they actually made more net income in Sharks than in Globe. I will be on business trip to Zurich in near future. I decide to visit Globe to investigate possibility if Anja coming back. I will keep posted.
Happy,
Anja is pretty with sensational tits that she jiggles around. She is free spiritted and likes to party. She does some cool stuff with customers when she likes them. For customers she does not get on with then the reception can be less the freezing.
I know already she offers two tiered pricing where certain services are included in the pricing and where for others the pricing would be extra for the same services.
She openly admits some customers she feels nothing for them and finds some customers really creepy and would go out of her way to refuse them.
The fact Anja did not honour you with her handy number is appalling.
Maybe it is better this way and she is gone. No great loss.It is a big loss for us and Sharks. She was one of the "human" girls at Sharks. Do you know why she has left?
Carpe Viam
11-30-16, 08:07
Very well said.
Her too honest character certainly prevented her from becoming the best girl in the club.
Due to a private party, I had a special service without paying extra even though she does not call me as a mouse, because I do not have small body. Eventually she does not enter the Globe, but she goes to another. Yes, she is capricious LOL.
Happy,
Anja is pretty with sensational tits that she jiggles around. She is free spiritted and likes to party. She does some cool stuff with customers when she likes them. For customers she does not get on with then the reception can be less the freezing.
I know already she offers two tiered pricing where certain services are included in the pricing and where for others the pricing would be extra for the same services.
She openly admits some customers she feels nothing for them and finds some customers really creepy and would go out of her way to refuse them.
The fact Anja did not honour you with her handy number is appalling.
Maybe it is better this way and she is gone. No great loss.
ExpatLover
11-30-16, 08:13
I had good times this summer with her. Especially on the GFE side. I miss this magic.
Then she was a bit too much on testing my kindness after refusing to exchange phones to check her presence or place when I'm in Germany. Will not know if it was a 'no test'. Last time she told me I don't understand her. With this behavior, i will not ask again.
I (try to) stop play with people saying ying and yang alltogether, especially in pay time wich 99% means a total lost of money. When I pay, I appreciate the GFE smile, DFK, sexual thingS (upto noko), not the sleeping, useless talk, massage side unless inclusive upto...
One of sirio sharks girl has been the queen this year. Beautiful but really naturally unrespectfull in service.For me a FKK is the place where everything is cheated, and it should remain like this. The girls have wrong names, we also are building stories around who we really are, when you start to exchange phone numbers, meet the girls outside the clubs you enter the real life and I don't recommend anyone to do this.
Carpe Viam
11-30-16, 08:17
One of these Romanian was told by customers that YamaYama wrote in her Japanese blog that Dina ordered him not to lick her pussy because she practices a special service. Perhaps, this incident triggered the real Romanian-Hungarian war LOL.
3 months ago, Dina told me that a particular Romanian clique was being unfriendly to her, and that these particular girls were not hygienic. Maybe YamaYama wrote about his pussylicking exploits with one or more these specific girls and this was what she actually objects to, rather than the pussylicking of Romanian girls in general.
When you work in Switzerland, inevitably the girls have to pay Swiss taxes. As we know a part of the 140 CHF fee for half hour also includes a service tax element. The girls would lose this service tax element as well as pay income taxes on their self employment business profits. Also living in Switzerland is dead expensive. Cherries at the local market at 65 CHF for a kilogram, chocolate at easily over 100 CHF a kilogram, steak at over 100 CHF a kilogram.In Zermatt or Verbier which are high fashion ski resort, but only interesting for me to free ride and I look forward, I buy 100 g white chocolate for about 3/4 CHF, never 10 . When I have time, I can have very good diner in Switzerland for 40 CHF.
At Globe, WGs make twice more money than in Germany, even after they paid the room on desk each time they finish the room.
If Anja really goes there and succeed to get business, but she will have to change her behavior even she is friendly, then she will not return to Sharks. Not same business, not same money.
Well I kissed her not DFK but still and licked her pussy, LOL. Still it was an awful experience bc she kept saying 50 e more for kissing in the room after she confirmed kissing outside.
Lost my interest in her so won't ever consider going with her again. Lately I found it difficult to repeat girls want to try new girls. The repeat gets less excited than the 1st one no wonder married guys are tired of fucking their wives, haha.Like you, I like girls who talk sweetly and don't kill my mood. It is required for the GFE illusion. Very mild upsell does not really worry me, but it can go too far very easily.
I wish girls would just shut up rather than keep talking about the limitations of 50 Euro note, since I am a one hour customer anyway. I think the really smart girls realise they get repeat customers, by omitting the tough talk.
I do mainly repeat girls so can bypass all the non-GFE talk. I will never be someone to negotiate for session service. Either she wants me for an hour or she doesn't. Up to her to be good enough. If she wants repeat, she better give DFK as well. Otherwise its likely I am bored by her already.
A top service girl like Moira as example, never had to negotiate with me, I am sure. Just perform to hook the customer for plenty of repeat bookings. Maybe the smart girl's tactics vary depending on whether customer is a regular or not, and whether he is seen to repeat girls.
I love sweet girls with no crap upsell talk at the beginning (or during the session). Yes they still exist, even getting a bit scarce. Upsell at Sharks may well be not far behind Oase levels these days, for 1 hour customers at least, since I don't notice much difference if trying girls for the first time.
I hope the girls are reading this report too. I know they are. LOL They need to understand too much talk can lose the customer quickly. Be sweet and make the illusion. Hook the customer by guile.
Like you, I like girls who talk sweetly and don't kill my mood. It is required for the GFE illusion. Very mild upsell does not really worry me, but it can go too far very easily.
I wish girls would just shut up rather than keep talking about the limitations of 50 Euro note, since I am a one hour customer anyway. I think the really smart girls realise they get repeat customers, by omitting the tough talk.
I do mainly repeat girls so can bypass all the non-GFE talk. I will never be someone to negotiate for session service. Either she wants me for an hour or she doesn't. Up to her to be good enough. If she wants repeat, she better give DFK as well. Otherwise its likely I am bored by her already.
A top service girl like Moira as example, never had to negotiate with me, I am sure. Just perform to hook the customer for plenty of repeat bookings. Maybe the smart girl's tactics vary depending on whether customer is a regular or not, and whether he is seen to repeat girls.
I love sweet girls with no crap upsell talk at the beginning (or during the session). Yes they still exist, even getting a bit scarce. Upsell at Sharks may well be not far behind Oase levels these days, for 1 hour customers at least, since I don't notice much difference if trying girls for the first time.
I hope the girls are reading this report too. I know they are. LOL They need to understand too much talk can lose the customer quickly. Be sweet and make the illusion. Hook the customer by guile.I agree master Syzy. I do ask what the girls do before commiting myself but its pretty normal stuff.
I hate when girls are asking for the room in less than 1 min girls that approach my like that I write off right away even those I'm interested in.
I'm sure the girls will be aware if a certain customer mainly do 30 min or can / will stay longer.
Member #4585
11-30-16, 13:14
Your German friend told Anja about me,
she gave me a nickname she told to another French guy..I am sorry Sirioja, to explain your story you will need to provide more context. Like a lot of your writing it seems you are writing to yourself, quipping about your own in jokes and your own perception of situations which may have no basis in reality. As far as I know, you do not want anyone to talk to you, so how do you know all of these things that you write. It may be a case of having the context incorrect. In this case, if I may, could you provide further explanation or clarification on who is the German friend? I am trying to think which German girl you are talking about.
I understand that there are a number of nicknames, none of them pleasant, the girls have for their favored Francophone writer. So please, as some advice, do not be overly concerned.
ExpatLover
11-30-16, 14:15
Really funny story about Anja, at least more than claiming to know me in private. Your German friend told Anja about me, but on a slow business day, she was not often so busy, she came to me with a blond girl, I answered I never go with 2 girls, so Anja left and let the blond with me. The blond understood in 1 minute I was not attracted and asked me if I wanted her friend, she left, returned to Anja who came alone. I was not so attracted, but it was a challenge to show to a girl who was said bad things about me, how I behave with women, even prostitutes in brothels. 1 hour room, after our first room which was a good surprise because more friendly in room than her turning around behavior in the lounge, she gave me a nickname she told to another French guy. I promised her to repeat, she became really friendly, we repeated, second room was even better, playful but not sweet GF nor sensual enough for me. On Monday 31 October, she was with a guy but she went to me, so I had to answer I couldn't have sex, she came again on Saturday 5 November, but didn't insist. If she really goes to work at Globe, it will be nice to chat about Sharks bullshits with her, all girls know me now at Globe, after about 10 visits since June, and they know I only go with 2 girls, even top dancer Stefie really worth.
When I will decide to return to Sharks, when I will be allowed soon to drive again in Germany, I will have a new challenge about another girl who was also told about me, but if we happen to go to room, I m sure it will be an easy challenge to show her my behavior.This is the price to pay when you are a star.
Seriously, some girls do leave the club with customers from the reception. Azn has as he reported below and as reported by Carpe Viam and so have I.This totally skipped my mind until we started talking about this topic.
Seems like Sharks will also start a hotel so that customers can take girls out for the night in their hotel. I don't know where it'll physically be but I'm guessing maybe the current girls apartment will be remade for that. It makes sense because they are also building new housing for the girls. In addition to that, they are adding more rooms at Sharks behind the fish tank and they will redo the VIP room also.
I think this is fairly accurate, maybe someone like HB can confirm?
Member #4585
11-30-16, 16:07
I see some really old, quite quite fat and totally ugly geezers, and for all we know, that innocent dream girl that looks like a knockout model might have licked that oldie geezer's arsehole for the last half hour prior to your session. (In fact, that's one reason why I don't kiss even my special girls, unless I know for sure it is their first session of the day).I know what you mean Jnpr30.
It is not always possible but for the girls that lick my arse I like to get them first thing when they start their shift and have them lick my arse. Since if I get them later on then she may have offered that same arse licking service to other clients before me to earn extra money. Also these girls invariably provide deep french kissing so it is a case of arse to mouth going on. Nice to watch this in a porno with the girl taking your cock in her arsehole then you pull your cock our and push your dirty cock into her mouth for her to suck your cock clean. It is the sort of action you could get at FKK 40 (Dietzenbach) or Bernds.
Nice to watch this in a porno with the girl taking your cock in her arsehole then you pull your cock our and push your dirty cock into her mouth for her to suck your cock clean. It is the sort of action you could get at FKK 40 (Dietzenbach) or Bernds.I don't want destroy your illusion but girls at Sharks, Oase, Mainhattan even at Palace do the same. And they can look like angels and give sweet innocent DFK to the next guy.
Member #4585
11-30-16, 18:09
I don't want destroy your illusion but girls at Sharks, Oase, Mainhattan even at Palace do the same. And they can look like angels and give sweet innocent DFK to the next guy.Craiova, you have not broken my illusion at all. I am quite sure that these porno sex acts are being performed in the mainstream FKK as well but there is a higher chance of doing it AO in AO clubs. Rhis is what I meant.
Pulling your covered cock out of a girls arsehole then pulling the condom off for her to shck your cock is not the same as doing that same act AO. Yes, this is done at the AO clubs.
Getting this same service AO is a little harder in the mainstream FKK clubs. I know the stats you orovide of how much AO sex goes on so I believe you.
Pulling your covered cock out of a girls arsehole then pulling the condom off for her to shck your cock is not the same as doing that same act AO.That's an affirmative. I've fucked many girls in the ass, then gotten sucked off afterwards. But like you say, I had a condom on when I was in their butt holes. This is not the same as a "pure" ass to mouth act, which I don't particularly want to do anyway. There was one time when I was fucking a hot girl in the butt, and she wanted me to go straight from her ass to her pussy. I had a condom on, and I fulfilled her wish, but I was surprised since most girls would be concerned about getting a bacterial infection by doing that. There is a whole special genre of porn focused on ass to mouth sex. Something for everybody LOL!
Member #4585
11-30-16, 18:29
In Zermatt or Verbier which are high fashion ski resort, but only interesting for me to free ride and I look forward, I buy 100 g white chocolate for about 3/4 CHF, never 10 . When I have time, I can have very good diner in Switzerland for 40 CHF.
Not same business, not same money.Are we sure to treat you personally as prime examples as the price of living in Switzerland from the man who sleeps in his igloo car to save money on hotel while spending his weekends in FKK clubs?
Are we sure to treat you personally as prime examples as the price of living in Switzerland from the man who sleeps in his igloo car to save money on hotel while spending his weekends in FKK clubs?When I spend more than 100 days per year in FKK, not only for restaurant or hotel, when I often stay with my girls until closed at 4 or 5 am, if I'm not bored, when I m often on one day around Düsseldorf and on the next day around Frankfurt or Zurich, when I drove more than 150 000 kms only in Germany since 4 years I discovered this new world, when I prefer Globe level now, what money do I really save? I could buy easily my 911 turbo 4's to get the grip with Shiftech race evolution, what we call a rocket, but I can't drive it to Zermatt or Verbier to go to eat white chocolate for 3,50 CHF without my best friends Scott. And what about Summer bike in Dolomiti, to visit Wellcum and Andiamo. At.
I know a bit about Swiss life rates and some girls who work at Globe are very happy about their business. I don't think they want to return to Sharks, I don't even say about dead World for business.
About Anja, she was said by the German guy we both know, he also spoke to Nastia about me, but she came to me, I didn't go to her on first time. After our first room, I never went to Anja even she made me promise to repeat, she came to me kissing me, several times, some saw this, I found excuses to avoid, but I promised so I repeated and no regret about my 200 for our 2 rooms, but I don t think she has woman manners level to worth 280 for 1 hour at Globe, when I pay more than 400 with no regret for Kate, her photos don t help because I don t think she plans to return to Sharks, and sometimes 560€ for 2 hours with natural beauty Isabella, but Isabella is Isabella.
At least, I'm sure we don't know each other, I know only 1 guy who go to brothels, in private.
Unfortunately, you and too many others speak too much about me, without knowing me, how I behave with girls. But fact is, I'm a repeating girls specialist, so all these girls choose to have many rooms with me only for club rate, without extra, without tip, my only tip is to repeat on next week. Just facts versus bullshits.
Maybe we will really meet once.
It is a big loss for us and Sharks. She was one of the "human" girls at Sharks. Do you know why she has left?If Anja really goes to Globe, I will see her, then go to Globe. Entry is 95 with great free foods and free drinks, only 30 more than Sharks. 30 mn are 140 , but with real social time before and shower together after, so about 1 hour with the girl, only 40 more, but no upselling for kissing or DATY at Globe, the girl would be fired. If she really provides public sex as it was written about on couch at Sharks, You can even fuck her on the pole podium and she may get her free entry for a next day. So You could have a great day with her for only 235 USD or € or CHF. You decide if she worth?
I have been to a few places such as Costa Rica and Colombia so I decided to check out some FKK clubs after reading various forums on this website. I visited Oase, World, Palace and Sharks during my 1 week visit. I will post some reports of other places as well but Sharks had the best variety / line up so I went there for 3 days out of my trip.
First impression is a nice big open lounge area when you come in but there is quite a bit of smoking going on in here. It was great to see girls fully nude so you get what is advertised so to speak. There also have a good relaxation areas upstairs but with the loud music it can be hard to sleep.
Of the top of my head here are some the girls I went with.
1) Sidonia; small and sweet girl, not much kissing but still had a fun time with her.
2) Diana; slim blond girl, good kissing and had an enjoyable time with her.
3) Nelly; reddish hair, nice DFK and fun personality.
4) Yvette; another small girl but she seemed to have a good personality outside the room so gave her a shot. As expected lots of fun and energy in the room and had a great time with her.
5) Evita; saw her name many times on the forum and caught her when she just arrived at work. We had a good conversation and she has a beautiful face and body. In the room she was very sensual and I had an amazing time with her, I can see why she is a superstar in this club.
I had a wonderful time at the clubs here in Germany and especially at Sharks!
This is the price to pay when you are a star.I wonder if some guys don't prefer to think and speak about other guys rather than about girls who look for rooms?
A star? Who is a star? Only high level or top model girls can be.
For me, just the most normal guy who enjoys the most normal sex. Women in private life, kiss you all the time and ask for long foreplay when they love you, they want to take long time for sex, not fast rabbit sex, they say to their friends: he is my man. I was lucky to be used to. I treat in same way prostitutes in brothels, why many repeat weekly with me. My only friend told me so many times: how can you go with the same girl, many times a day, every week? A pleasure, as long she makes me dream. I stop, when I don't dream anymore.
HappyF, thanks not to name her. When no more pleasure, don't lose your money, just go to next one, girls don't force us to go to room, even I never run after my girls, I prefer they come to me. Around Duss, ultra slim, green eyes, Maria at LR, should be your dream.
Carpe Viam
11-30-16, 23:01
Anja is a YMMV girl in a sense she does not give the same favor to all customers (she is not Sandra or Megan). She can be very endearing by staying next to a client for free, but can be sarcastic by mocking a client by calling a mouse. Her service may also vary. In short, she is not yet professional enough as she loses a lot of money at the slot machine instead of trying to find customers. Hopefully she will have a lot of luck in a new place.
I don't think Anja is a YMMV girl. I can testify that.
I first met her in this July, one week after I broke up with the Hungarian star. Anja provided one of best sessions in my FKK journeys. Since then, we had been together for total 10 hours in eight sessions (she disappeared short period during this summer). Her services were very consistent. Some customers did not feel confident on her strikingly beautiful face, and they presumed that Anja could not provide good services. She was a victim from this presumption. So this is one of reasons that she was not as busy as she was supposed to be. She even got much less business than those Panda-Hunters, while to me, she is much better than Cosmina.
I feel kind of pity that she left for Globe, which means I would have to pay three times cost to see her. However I doubt she could make more money there. Ex-globe WGs Lena (might be Vivian) once told me that they actually made more net income in Sharks than in Globe. I will be on business trip to Zurich in near future. I decide to visit Globe to investigate possibility if Anja coming back. I will keep posted.
Member #4581
12-01-16, 00:07
I know what you mean Jnpr30.
It is not always possible but for the girls that lick my arse I like to get them first thing when they start their shift and have them lick my arse. Since if I get them later on then she may have offered that same arse licking service to other clients before me to earn extra money. Also these girls invariably provide deep french kissing so it is a case of arse to mouth going on. Nice to watch this in a porno with the girl taking your cock in her arsehole then you pull your cock our and push your dirty cock into her mouth for her to suck your cock clean. It is the sort of action you could get at FKK 40 (Dietzenbach) or Bernds.Ha, funny. When it comes to licking my ass I don't care what time and turn it is, but when it comes to putting that tongue in my mouth, it better be clean which means before she was with anyone else on that day.
Actually, I was just responding to Pistons, who said it is a downer and anti boner to see your fav girl with an ugly pimp. My point being that if we begin imagining and visualizing our girls with other men in kinky or other situations, everything can be an anti boner.
That said, I did get that rim job a couple of times in the club. Once paid for it. When I watch it in porn on my iPad, it can appear hugely kinky, something forbidden and perhaps unachievable in real life with almost all the girls out there. When it was done for real to me in the club, the girl doing it matter of fact business way, it felt a bit funny, weirdly wet between my legs and while somewhat soothing, did absolutely nothing for my dick. Afterwards I carefully avoided kissing the girl in any way, yuck. Hope she did not feel offended. Itch scratched, moved on. Felt a bit sorry for the girl, her having to do it for a lousy 50 bucks. Oh well. She knew what she agreed to do, I guess. At least, I thoroughly wash my ass before every session.
Member #4581
12-01-16, 00:41
When you work in Switzerland, inevitably the girls have to pay Swiss taxes. As we know a part of the 140 CHF fee for half hour also includes a service tax element. The girls would lose this service tax element as well as pay income taxes on their self employment business profits. Also living in Switzerland is dead expensive. Cherries at the local market at 65 CHF for a kilogram, chocolate at easily over 100 CHF a kilogram, steak at over 100 CHF a kilogram.She could work in the US and buy cherries for $3 a pound in the summer, and have a nice steak dinner for $25. That is, unless she likes to go fruit picking at a cherry farm locally, in which case she can pick as many cherries as she likes and even eat them while she is picking them, and at the end of the day, pay a pittance for several pounds.
Like I said, pay sex is the cheapest good on sale in Europe. Most other things seem expensive to me over there.
Member #4585
12-01-16, 01:11
There was one time when I was fucking a hot girl in the butt, and she wanted me to go straight from her ass to her pussy. I had a condom on, and I fulfilled her wish, but I was surprised since most girls would be concerned about getting a bacterial infection by doing that.Done that before with condom as well as AO style at Bernds. It can be spur of the moment.
Member #4585
12-01-16, 01:14
About Anja, she was said by the German guy we both know,Seriously I do not know who this German guy is that you think I know.
I honestly think Anja gives a bad service due her YMMV approach as I have reported on before. I could not care less that she has left Sharks.
Member #4585
12-01-16, 01:20
Seems like Sharks will also start a hotel so that customers can take girls out for the night in their hotel. I don't know where it'll physically be but I'm guessing maybe the current girls apartment will be remade for that. It makes sense because they are also building new housing for the girls. In addition to that, they are adding more rooms at Sharks behind the fish tank and they will redo the VIP room also.The Sharks business has taken a lease on some of the property that was previously used by the SEAT dealership further up the shared access road. Maybe the expansion plans that you reference has something to the additional space that the ex SEAT land will provide.
At least, I'm sure we don't know each other, I know only 1 guy who go to brothels, in private.
Unfortunately, you and too many others speak too much about me, without knowing me, how I behave with girls. But fact is, I'm a repeating girls specialist, so all these girls choose to have many rooms with me only for club rate, without extra, without tip, my only tip is to repeat on next week. Just facts versus bullshits.
Maybe we will really meet once.Because of your English, your meanings are always vague.
"People speak too much about you" means there are jokes about you or people on forum or otherwise complaining about your posts, or do mean discussing you with girls?
Girls who read the forum mostly know who you are already, but some may be curious and actually ask other ISGers who you are. I don't know. Kelly was a reader of all forums and knew very easily who I was and also who you were. So writing gives us away.
Not many people are at all interested in your behavior with girls in the room. So no reason for you to keep mentioning that topic. And yes we know you don't write the details and no one cares. No one asks girls what you do. It is not interesting. All I know is what you told me Dina had commented about you. The funny comment.
It's what you write on the forum that is drawing criticism from me and others. You don't care right? You will keep writing seemingly paranoid stuff at times, or making allegations about other customers that seem unfounded.
You have far too much interest in customers instead of just in the girls. Also too many comments about outside the club. Do others show off about how they spending time driving a Porsche or skiing at expensive locations. No they don't. Most writers stick to just the club and the girls. I mean concentrate on girls relevant to Sharks as well.
You and I are both well known in the club at least. So even if you don't know every poster by sight, most will know who you are. We both have doubtless met other ISGers but we don't know their handles as some have kept it secret.
You have already met guys but don't always know it.
I also am a repeater of girls, with no special tips, as long as can find girls worth repeating. So what. ?Its no big deal. No one claims you are not that style.
If you have stopped attending Sharks, maybe you won't need to post in the Sharks thread so often. I am a bit bored by Sharks at the moment so am considering to stop visiting for a while and use other clubs. My frequency of posting also dropped off.
Struggling to find top girls for my spec in Sharks these days. Struggling to find many girls worth repeating. Many girls not considered due to quirks in what sort of face I like.
Bitumen makes a good point that you appear to be writing stuff to yourself, rather than what might be useful or interesting or even enyertaining to read by the other ISGers.
Got an recommendation on a girl called Melody from a guy I meet at Sharks and was stupid enough to believe it instead of following my own gut feeling. When I talked to her it felt bad already but decided to try anyway. In the room she if I wanted to stay 1 h I say prolly just 30 min. She kiss for 5 sec then went straight to BBBJ then again asked if I wanted CIM or anal. I declined all and then she sucked a little more and ask if I wanted to fuck. I wanted more BJ but it was not good so ask for condom. Fuck her for doggy while she was acting like a dead doll. Rly bad atmosphere so decided to abort in 15 min.
Moral here is not to trust anyone but yr own instincts so never again, LOL. Prolly the worst session I had ever or in a long long time. So guys do yrself a favor and avoid MELODY. Don't say I didn't warned you its 50 e down the toilet drain.
Went with the pretty girl I was looking for yesterday Kim her skin isn't perfect up close but she has a rly pretty face and good personality. Session was pretty good but I had better.
Repeat: possible.
PussyLiccker
12-01-16, 03:55
The club is hyped the fuck up. Seriously, no real stunners. Facially girls are avg looking IMO. Given Sharks is an FKK, expected to have many with nice bodies. That is the main draw of these clubs, but seriously real total package girls are really lacking in a LU of 200 IMO.
If you got Diana as a top looker with crapshoot services, and with seceral Asian killers providing avg services, hrs and hrs of long rooms. It's that kinda club.
Not all impressed by the LU or optiks of the better service girls, yet again.
Interestingly, the 3 German provided good to great services. Sandra IMO the best looking German not couting Janine. Attractive.
Megan and Evits gained weight.
Like the food and better couches than the futons they had in the past. Pool gone couple jacuzzis.
Mai Ling seems attractive and services likely good.
Steffie is one of the prettiest? Pretty face, yes. The club needs more pretty faces.
Nastia has very slim bod, but face isn't all that attractive. I guess my expectations of pointed out optis were higher than reality.
Did many sessions though. 4/7 were good as for stats.
The club is hyped the fuck up. Seriously, no real stunners. Facially girls are avg looking IMO. Given Sharks is an FKK, expected to have many with nice bodies. That is the main draw of these clubs, but seriously real total package girls are really lacking in a LU of 200 IMO.
If you got Diana as a top looker with crapshoot services, and with seceral Asian killers providing avg services, hrs and hrs of long rooms. It's that kinda club.
Not all impressed by the LU or optiks of the better service girls, yet again.
Interestingly, the 3 German provided good to great services. Sandra IMO the best looking German not couting Janine. Attractive.
Megan and Evits gained weight.
Like the food and better couches than the futons they had in the past. Pool gone couple jacuzzis.
Mai Ling seems attractive and services likely good.
Steffie is one of the prettiest? Pretty face, yes. The club needs more pretty faces.
Nastia has very slim bod, but face isn't all that attractive. I guess my expectations of pointed out optis were higher than reality.
Did many sessions though. 4/7 were good as for stats.So LU is better at Oase or Palace than Sharks? I am talking about more stunner in Oase or Palace than Sharks?
All of us have different views and feelings for some specific girls. When I shared my subjective feelings about Dina or Cosmina, always there were guys coming to defend her. And there were usually some disagreements from forum when I expressed favorite comments on Steffi, Anja, Bianca, Lavinia, Janine, Melanie, Ariana, Scarlett, etc.
It is very normal.
I just don't know why I am the only guy to point out that Dina is actually an YMMY girl. Who cares? I don't care either. After all I stopped spending money on her since awhile ago.
If you only went with her in only a few sessions, you would be vehemently against my posts.
I think Dina has some magic tricks. She thoroughly understand men's sexual mentality. Customers might be very impressed by the first few sessions with her, thus producing a strong GF fantasy, and falling in love with her sincerely. Once in her trap, they'd like to spend large amount money on her without extricating ("Dina Addiction") and try to fawn on her, to please her, even if they were treated unfairly by Her. Dina thus considered herself as their queen and took advantage to provide simple unpleasant and below average services on them.
I was in "trap" before. I fled away after spending thousands of euros on her. It was a big blunder I made in my three years' FKK journey.
No offense.
I honestly think Anja gives a bad service due her YMMV approach as I have reported on before. I could not care less that she has left Sharks.
Anja is a YMMV girl in a sense she does not give the same favor to all customers (she is not Sandra or Megan). She can be very endearing by staying next to a client for free, but can be sarcastic by mocking a client by calling a mouse. Her service may also vary. In short, she is not yet professional enough as she loses a lot of money at the slot machine instead of trying to find customers. Hopefully she will have a lot of luck in a new place.
Seriously I do not know who this German guy is that you think I know.
I honestly think Anja gives a bad service due her YMMV approach as I have reported on before. I could not care less that she has left Sharks.She was one of the gems at Sharks and one of the best bodies. Look at the Line up now! She is badly missed. Hope she will return.
The club is hyped the fuck up. Seriously, no real stunners. Facially girls are avg looking IMO. Given Sharks is an FKK, expected to have many with nice bodies. That is the main draw of these clubs, but seriously real total package girls are really lacking in a LU of 200 IMO.
If you got Diana as a top looker with crapshoot services, and with seceral Asian killers providing avg services, hrs and hrs of long rooms. It's that kinda club.
Not all impressed by the LU or optiks of the better service girls, yet again.
Interestingly, the 3 German provided good to great services. Sandra IMO the best looking German not couting Janine. Attractive.
Megan and Evits gained weight..As long as stunner as Anja are forced out LU will continue it deteriorate.
PussyLiccker
12-01-16, 11:01
Seems your idea of stunners is different from min if Place has several stunners for ya albeit I haven't visited in awhile.
Oase for me has more of the types of pretty face I am attracted to, but that's not the only critera in what I look for in a club. Oase is getting more difficult to find lookers with reliable services now a days.
Nick The G
12-01-16, 12:57
Moral here is not to trust anyone but your own instincts.Aha. But why did you ask other guys first to recommend girls to you? Persistent lack of moral and / or instinct?
ExpatLover
12-01-16, 13:14
Seems your idea of stunners is different from min if Place has several stunners for ya albeit I haven't visited in awhile.
Oase for me has more of the types of pretty face I am attracted to, but that's not the only critera in what I look for in a club. Oase is getting more difficult to find lookers with reliable services now a days.Visited Oase many times over the last weeks, got always top service from top girls what can I expect more, I consider that service is not a problem of the girls but my problem and how I am able to push the girl to give me their best. For example Sunday I was with a very sweet girl and I ask her how I can try to make her come, she told me that unfortunately for her it will take a long time but she explain smoothly what and how she likes it and for sure I needed long long time (the longest in my life) but at the end she came and it was not a fake one. She revanches to me and I got a great service but all this is not possible in a 30 minutes 50 euros session, sorry.
Got an recommendation on a girl called Melody from a guy I meet at Sharks and was stupid enough to believe it instead of following my own gut feeling. When I talked to her it felt bad already but decided to try anyway. In the room she if I wanted to stay 1 h I say prolly just 30 min. She kiss for 5 sec then went straight to BBBJ then again asked if I wanted CIM or anal. I declined all and then she sucked a little more and ask if I wanted to fuck. I wanted more BJ but it was not good so ask for condom. Fuck her for doggy while she was acting like a dead doll. Rly bad atmosphere so decided to abort in 15 min.
Moral here is not to trust anyone but yr own instincts so never again, LOL. Prolly the worst session I had ever or in a long long time. So guys do yrself a favor and avoid MELODY. Don't say I didn't warned you its 50 e down the toilet drain.
Went with the pretty girl I was looking for yesterday Kim her skin isn't perfect up close but she has a rly pretty face and good personality. Session was pretty good but I had better.
Repeat: possible.I always thought better to go to girls who attract you, to speak with them to feel if they seem friendly and it doesn't mean sex will be great, but at least it s a positive start. After, You often get from girls from your manners and behavior with them.
Seems more efficient for me than just being a follower.
Girls also don t behave the same with all of us and we also don t look for same sex.
From my experiences: I was said many times good things about Mandy, I m sure she is nice behavior, it s written on her face when she smiles, but I never had a spark when I look at her, maybe when I will return, when I will be allowed to drive again in Germany. I didn't crash anybody of course, nor alcohol, nor drug, not good for sport, but no Germany without car. Switzerland wait for me and have to return to NL. December is also Russian escorts month in Paris. Hanna and Viktoria AMR will make me wait, starting tonight after work.
With a little experience about women, when you speak with a girl, when You look at the way she looks at you, you can see if You are only one more money / dick, or if she really looks at you, then you decide to take risk or not.
For me, always better to make own way yourself. I only followed Syzy advice for Agnes, because I was not attracted by her closed face, but he was right, she was great, real woman with beautiful eyes and smile. But usually, I don t need others to find my girls and I may improve because I find more and more high level girls, at GT, LR, World was not bad at night for my last visit and excellent Globe of course. Have also to try Bumsalp, Aphrodisia and History, with my saved 40€ Ibis budget nights. I will not even be able to pay the entry.
Go your own way, don t listen or care about others. Each one his game.
Aha. But why did you ask other guys first to recommend girls to you? Persistent lack of moral and / or instinct?I didn't ask for any recommendations especially from people I don't know that well but he kept pestering me about how good she is. My mistake was to blv him instead of following the vibe I got from the girl.
Just trying to save people 50 e plus an awful experience here that's what this forum is suppose to be rite. Even though I fell into a death trap I still want the best for my fellow padawans, LOL.
ExpatLover
12-01-16, 13:36
I didn't ask for any recommendations especially from people I don't know that well but he kept pestering me about how good she is. My mistake was to blv him instead of following the vibe I got from the girl.
Just trying to save people 50 e plus an awful experience here that's what this forum is suppose to be rite. Even though I fell into a death trap I still want the best for my fellow padawans, LOL.That is why I never report about the girls and I never look after any report, I just follow my feelings and it is quite successful for the moment.
I didn't ask for any recommendations especially from people I don't know that well but he kept pestering me about how good she is. My mistake was to blv him instead of following the vibe I got from the girl.Even at Puff you should still listen to your mothers advice "don't take anything from strangers". LOL.
BTW sessions like your Melody one still happens as jedi master.
Even at Puff you should still listen to your mothers advice "don't take anything from strangers". LOL.
BTW sessions like your Melody one still happens as jedi master.Well obviously he's not a complete stranger as I have seen him at the club many times before and seems like a good guy.
This padawan broke the jedi code and paid the consequences, LOL.
Nothing ruins my day more than losing money and bad sessions.
Member #4585
12-01-16, 14:47
Uummm, you are quoting about Anja but talking about Dina. Are you saying Anja is actually Dina?
If it helps with your feelings, I agree with you that somehow Dina has an ability for the first and maybe several subsequent visits for her to ensnare a man into her web to the pint that he has fallen for her but then once she has he man intoxicated that she will take advantage of them.
One man I know said that after 4 sessions with Dina that it become an expectation of Dina that he had to go with her and he would be black balled if he did not continue to go with her as his first choice. For example, for me I thought that Dina was fabulous in the room but on the next visit I found her restrictive in what she allowed such as DATY saying she was not wanting some things to happen in the room. There was the restriction of services but still the feeling that you had to book her and she was the epitome of what men are seeking in the club and that the other girls implying the Romanians were not as good.
As a suggestion the fact no one else is writing about Dina does not mean to pick up on the quotes from some unrelated girls' quotes from guys you have a thing about. It loses impact and also can be confusing for some readers of the forum.
No offense.
All of us have different views and feelings for some specific girls. When I shared my subjective feelings about Dina or Cosmina, always there were guys coming to defend her. And there were usually some disagreements from forum when I expressed favorite comments on Steffi, Anja, Bianca, Lavinia, Janine, Melanie, Ariana, Scarlett, etc.
It is very normal.
I just don't know why I am the only guy to point out that Dina is actually an YMMY girl. Who cares? I don't care either. After all I stopped spending money on her since awhile ago.
If you only went with her in only a few sessions, you would be vehemently against my posts.
I think Dina has some magic tricks. She thoroughly understand men's sexual mentality. Customers might be very impressed by the first few sessions with her, thus producing a strong GF fantasy, and falling in love with her sincerely. Once in her trap, they'd like to spend large amount money on her without extricating ("Dina Addiction") and try to fawn on her, to please her, even if they were treated unfairly by Her. Dina thus considered herself as their queen and took advantage to provide simple unpleasant and below average services on them.
I was in "trap" before. I fled away after spending thousands of euros on her. It was a big blunder I made in my three years' FKK journey.
No offense.
Uummm, you are quoting about Anja but talking about Dina. Are you saying Anja is actually Dina?
As a suggestion the fact no one else is writing about Dina does not mean to pick up on the quotes from some unrelated girls' quotes from guys you have a thing about. It loses impact and also can be confusing for some readers of the forum.
No offense.The reason I quote your comment in my post was that I didn't agree with your comment "Anja is a YMMV girl". I just want to point out that Dina is actually the real YMMV girl. Please read the context. No one would be confused.
Hessen Bub
12-01-16, 16:06
Dina and magic tricks? She didn't use them on me. Been with her twice or so, it's an okay session, that's it. No magic.
HB.
I was in "trap" before. I fled away after spending thousands of euros on her. It was a big blunder I made in my three years' FKK journey...I know what you mean, but the key mentality to mongering is that you have to make sure the money you spent doesn't mean much to you. Everyone has different spending limits, don't spend more than your limit with a girl and it won't feel as bad. If you spend more than your limit it puts a mind set on yourself to want the girl to show you more gratitude. But at the end of the day they are just prostitutes and it's their job, and they are just trying to get as much from you as they can.
You'll never win her heart with money. There is no winning when it comes to mongering. The same kind of mentality can be applied to gambling, the more people lose the more they want to win it back, but there isn't anything to win back, the house always wins. Just spend the money you don't give a shit about and the girl won't mean much to you. Be positive and try to keep perspective.
Good luck and monger on!
Member #4585
12-01-16, 20:35
I know what you mean, but the key mentality to mongering is that you have to make sure the money you spent doesn't mean much to you. Everyone has different spending limits, don't spend more than your limit with a girl and it won't feel as bad. If you spend more than your limit it puts a mind set on yourself to want the girl to show you more gratitude. But at the end of the day they are just prostitutes and it's their job, and they are just trying to get as much from you as they can.
You'll never win her heart with money. There is no winning when it comes to mongering. The same kind of mentality can be applied to gambling, the more people lose the more they want to win it back, but there isn't anything to win back, the house always wins. Just spend the money you don't give a shit about and the girl won't mean much to you. Be positive and try to keep perspective.
Good luck and monger on!Good and wise advice given. If I can (but I cannot right now) I would like to post your report to the Reports of Distinction.
My gratititude to AznHotBoy. You have wisdom and you have shared it to those who need it.
I know what you meant, but you didn't get my point about Dina.
Mongering FKK is like renting a car. You don't want to own the car.
Let us assume you go to Sixt and would like to pay more money to rent a BMW. Sixt gave you a car and claimed it a BMW. The car's performance was good initially, however after a first few kilometers, it abruptly downgraded to Ford level. Then what did you feel? Should I mock you that you should make sure you spending limit and should not rent a BMW, or claim you would never own the BMW with just money only?
We all know it is not the matter of money, but YMMV.
I just want to share information here and make a fun. Three grand is trivia to me. No complaints. Have fun and see you someday in Sharks.
I know what you mean, but the key mentality to mongering is that you have to make sure the money you spent doesn't mean much to you. Everyone has different spending limits, don't spend more than your limit with a girl and it won't feel as bad. If you spend more than your limit it puts a mind set on yourself to want the girl to show you more gratitude. But at the end of the day they are just prostitutes and it's their job, and they are just trying to get as much from you as they can.
You'll never win her heart with money. There is no winning when it comes to mongering. The same kind of mentality can be applied to gambling, the more people lose the more they want to win it back, but there isn't anything to win back, the house always wins. Just spend the money you don't give a shit about and the girl won't mean much to you. Be positive and try to keep perspective.
Good luck and monger on!
My gratititude to AznHotBoy. You have wisdom and you have shared it to those who need it.Haha thanks for appreciation! Mongering should be an escape / hobby. It should be relaxing and stress reducing and not bring on more problems. I hope people can have a great time and enjoy their real life success with some paid sexual entertainment. Just don't get too attached and if you do then maybe mongering isn't right for you, to each their own! Keep it fun!
Seems your idea of stunners is different from min if Place has several stunners for ya albeit I haven't visited in awhile.
Oase for me has more of the types of pretty face I am attracted to, but that's not the only critera in what I look for in a club. Oase is getting more difficult to find lookers with reliable services now a days.Anja is not a stunner for you?
All of us have different views and feelings for some specific girls.
I think Dina has some magic tricks. She thoroughly understand men's sexual mentality. Customers might be very impressed by the first few sessions with her, thus producing a strong GF fantasy, and falling in love with her sincerely. Once in her trap, they'd like to spend large amount money on her without extricating ("Dina Addiction") and try to fawn on her, to please her, even if they were treated unfairly by Her. Dina thus considered herself as their queen and took advantage to provide simple unpleasant and below average services on them.
I was in "trap" before. I fled away after spending thousands of euros on her. It was a big blunder I made in my three years' FKK journey.
No offense.For me, she is one of the prettiest at Sharks, with a bit of elegance when her eyes are not too "tired" , I don't agree with bullshits about her services, but I didn't feel a high sexual or sensual level, for my room with her in February 2014. Maybe she improved? Only once for me, 100.
I know what you mean, but the key mentality to mongering is that you have to make sure the money you spent doesn't mean much to you. Everyone has different spending limits, don't spend more than your limit with a girl and it won't feel as bad. If you spend more than your limit it puts a mind set on yourself to want the girl to show you more gratitude. But at the end of the day they are just prostitutes and it's their job, and they are just trying to get as much from you as they can.
You'll never win her heart with money. There is no winning when it comes to mongering. The same kind of mentality can be applied to gambling, the more people lose the more they want to win it back, but there isn't anything to win back, the house always wins. Just spend the money you don't give a shit about and the girl won't mean much to you. Be positive and try to keep perspective.
Good luck and monger on!Dina is one peculiar bird. I think she needs to be in control and likes toying with guys. She blows hot and cold. Sometimes she is good and other times she is bad. I remember a session which started good and she asked if I wanted to stay for an hour, (this was after 15 minutes) I agreed. Then she started restricting her services. All of a sudden BBBJ was no longer available. I told her to cut the session to 30 minutes. She relented, service improved and I finished the session at the hour mark. Very, very, odd. It is pretty sad. She could be a superstar. I would be willing to spend more, but she is too unreliable.
The LU was very not good sure there were some pretty ones but I've been with most of them and I don't feel like repeating again that soon. Much more quiet than yesterday so potentially it could be a good day to session with top girls problem was that none of my faves showed up.
Saw Birgitte from my last trip and later when she takes her walk she comes over to say Hello,. Did some catching up and then went to the room. The kissing was not as good as I rmb but still ok.
She's a nice girl easy to talk to so I could repeat but not in a hurry.
Eat, drink, eat and then sat for a couple of hrs waiting for the rite girl. Later Angela went over after some hunting. Pretty face, tits not that good but still acceptable. The session was ok but again not in a hurry to repeat guess the chemistry between us was not that good.
Lastly I session with Steffie again I really like her face but she doesn't do much kissing so I was very dissapointed, LOL.
A turkish (gang member?) got knocked down by another gang around 2 am. The guys left and later I was told that there were alot of polizei outside. A girl tells me that this happens every week. Guess Sharks is more dangerous than I imagined.
BTW a lot of wait for drinks unlike GT / LR where girls can get their own drinks and even serve customers. Some of the girls working at the bar totally ignores you sometimes.
again Evita n Cosmina busy with their asian guy but when that guy disappered they suddenly didnt look that hot anymore, had to take a walk around and even session with turkish guys for 50 e, LOL.
Know we have talked about tourists ruining the service but we forgot to mention the turkish guys. there are alot of them at night and most of these prolly only wants bbbj and fuck
Moral here is not to trust anyone but yr own instincts so never again, LOL. Prolly the worst session I had ever or in a long long time. So guys do yrself a favor and avoid MELODY. Don't say I didn't warned you its 50 e down the toilet drain.
To get good advice from customers, you need to know the guys well, and exactly what they like.
I only tried Pamela (a past girl), due to very strong recommendations from two very experienced buddies who had been in Sharks many times. Pamela was my spec exactly for the face but thighs a bit thick. She turned out to be really the absolute best Sharks girl. A dream woman in the room. Never regretted the advice of J and J for a minute. Some others they recommended were never tried as girl had wrong looks for me.
The other situation, is when you have spotted a girl, and are a bit undecided about her. Getting a tip from reliable person about how she has been for several customers can make the difference between deciding go or no go. Alternatively you have spotted three girls all to your spec. Which one to choose. Other opinions on the service can help decide the priority sequence.
I don't like to believe any single guy, unless I know his opinion is likely to be reliable. I am almost always choosing girls that fit my specs anyway. Occasionally relax my specs criteria slightly.
PussyLiccker
12-02-16, 04:23
Steffie is pretty friendly and interaction with her isn't the fuck factory typical. Likely the draw for most guys that run into her. The pretty face helps.
So LU is better at Oase or Palace than Sharks? I am talking about more stunner in Oase or Palace than Sharks?Actually yes. Oase has more girls with a very pretty face. Some will complain its the same girls as two years ago, but they are just as pretty as two years ago. Some with great service too (in an hour booking always for me). Some new good looking girls as well. There are known girls with great service. There are unknown girls.
Sharks has a large line up, lots of excellent bodies, yet can still take hours to find a girl that is exciting enough when comes to a pretty face. However one should note that I am very picky liking small face and small nose. Girls that others find very pretty, are not my spec.
I do think there are some pretty girls at Sharks. Nastia, Cosmina, Janine, Ruby, Sascha, Lana, Roxana, etc. Are my types. Very few of those are repeats for me though. Unfortunately Helli, Eliss, Beatrice, Sena were not in attendance on my visits.
Dina is one peculiar bird. I think she needs to be in control and likes toying with guys. She blows hot and cold. Sometimes she is good and other times she is bad...This is all true and a fair warning to all. She is a wild bird, but I think she's got her ways on how to handle a few guys and it's probably working better than most girls.
Let us assume you go to Sixt and would like to pay more money to rent a BMW. Sixt gave you a car and claimed it a BMW. The car's performance was good initially, however after a first few kilometers, it abruptly downgraded to Ford level. Then what did you feel? Should I mock you that you should make sure you spending limit and should not rent a BMW, or claim you would never own the BMW with just money only?
We all know it is not the matter of money, but YMMV.
I just want to share information here and make a fun. Three grand is trivia to me. No complaints. Have fun and see you someday in Sharks.Except this BWM got "magic tricks" to "trap" the renter into paying 3 grand for it's shitty performance. LOL. Then it makes you wonder, maybe this BMW is pretty special after all.
Also is becoming a Ford level a bad thing? Ford GT40 and GT 1st Gen are all cars that appreciate in value with multiple historical winning titles. Also the 2016 Shelby GT350 R is better than the 2016 BMW M4 GTS in multiple categories. Then there is also the 2nd Gen Ford GT which is all sold out before release. So I think you meant that this car actually "upgrade" itself to a Ford after a "first few kilometers."
Not trying to "mock" you, but how can I trust a Dina review from a monger that only spent 3 grand on Dina? Is that like only 15 minutes worth of Dina's time? I'm surprised she even looked at you for that little trivial amount.
Steffi one of the best looking girls at Sharks. But does anyone got real DFK from her? Dina from optic my type but her princess behavior get on my nerves, so last session with her more than two years ago. Body of Pamela a little too corpulent, service quite good included even free RJ but wasn't the smartest one.
I can't see any big difference in general of LU and average service level between Oase and Sharks. And this was at average more or less always so the last two years and is still the same sometimes I have favs at Oase and sometimes at Sharks. Never saw which was / is the better club. This hype of Sharks I have never understand and same this downgrading of Oase or other clubs over the last two years.
And if I don't like things of a club so what? Too many good options around Frankfurt that this really bothers me.
Visited Sharks recently. I noticed a lot of women working. In fact, ladies were complaining that too many women were working and they don't get enough business, except for just a few popular ones. Had sessions with Dina and Nicolette (HU), Iris, Ella, and Dora (RO), and Jolene (LI / RO). Dina and Nicolette are sisters. Dina, being an old one, was more skilled in terms of interaction. Nicolette was much more passive. Iris, Ella, and Dora were all very sweet. Jolene was wild (and too much teeth during BBBJ). Food was great, and the facility was large and clean. There was an area for taking a nap in upstairs also. One of the best facilities I have visited. Staff told me they offer discounted entry on Sunday (before 2 PM) and Wednesday, and offer a discount coupon for Monday / Tuesday next visit if you visit those days. They also told me that they serve crepes on Sundays. I bet that's very popular among the ladies. A fantastic day at a fantastic club.
Hessen Bub
12-02-16, 07:37
Dina and Nicoletta are not sisters. They maybe use it as their sales pitch, but they are not.
HB.
Dina and Nicoletta are not sisters. They maybe use it as their sales pitch, but they are not.
HB.Business sisters. Dina is not my regular, but for my respect for her, I wish she would never take her real blood sister to be fucked all day in a brothel, I also wish she drives Nicoletta for free. Better to make money from our work than stealing others.
No more fresh Mersi. Hu? We couldn't speak much, because she doesn't speak English, but I really appreciate she said she comes from a small Hungarian city, not from the wonderful Budapest where girls can get a job.
Same about Romanians claiming to come from Bucharest, Constanza or Cluj, can get a job in these towns.
I remember Kate saying after less than 2 minutes couch chatting, she comes from Moldavian part of Romania, and life is difficult about money there, why she had to make so big sacrifice in her life, when we spoke about him in room between our 2 rounds, she was crying and looking at me kissing her tears. 2 months and half later at Globe, she remembered everything about what happened.
Same sacrifice for Ariana not anymore at Sharks.
Moldavian part of Romania is so huge, from Spain and Italy to Russia and Kazakhstan.
But claimed businessmen can compete with WGs for lies.
Member #4585
12-02-16, 08:44
Again Evita n Cosmina...., had to take a walk around and even session with turkish guys for 50 e, LOL. I guess somebody has to do it. Democracy power of the euro note.
Member #4585
12-02-16, 08:47
Steffi one of the best looking girls at Sharks. But does anyone got real DFK from her?
Dina from optic my type but her princess behavior get on my nerves, so last session with her more than two years ago. Body of Pamela a little too corpulent, service quite good included even free RJ but wasn't the smartest one..I need to check out who Steffi is. I cannot picture which of the over 200 girls she is.
Dina hu, she gives free rimjob? I would have definitely kept Dina on the repeat list if she gave rimjob service. So bad she does not.
Carpe Viam
12-02-16, 09:19
Very curious. Because I did not see that they hunt Turkish last night and went for 30 minutes. Are they the same duo?
again Evita n Cosmina busy with their asian guy but when that guy disappered they suddenly didnt look that hot anymore, had to take a walk around and even session with turkish guys for 50 e, LOL...
Anja is not a stunner for you?Beautiful body, tits, blue eyes and smile, but lack of care for skin and teeth, face is not exceptional like for Nastia, she is not shining like some girls when they smile with beautiful teeth, and really bad tattoo for Anja. Doggy is impossible for me, looking at her tattoo, thinking about Hells. Girl type from deep country, not sophisticated, but really friendly in room, she was a really good surprise for my challenge to go with a girl who was bullshit about me before she knows me. In room, when she feels good, she wants to play with You, her favorite game is to bite your hands, arms, nose, tongue, I had to stop her because I hate this, I was always used to sweet kissing women. Her other game is to give nickname, mousy for me, no problem for me when she asked another French about her mousy. Other game is to compare size, so I answered: not so big, she answered: I know better than You, I see more than you, You are not Asian. But good vagina potential, she seems used to sporty sex.
For my claimed friend Bitumen, she went with everybody for only 50 €, she proposed CIM but never insist with me, because she was not full business at all, even before Summer, I think because of her behavior around the bar and her lack of sweetness and sensuality in room. But a really friendly girl who worth my 2 1 hour rooms with her, but not a third because I prefer more sweetness like at home. She was disappointed I didn't finish for our first room, I explained her it was not important for me, she was a good surprise, so she asked me to repeat. Each time she saw me, she came, I promised so we repeated even I was not in hurry, second room was better than first, no bite, more kissing, but like Megan, she knew what I would have to do. Bad sports which kill your body, but as long I will stand up, I will keep on.
I don t think she is yet at Globe, I don t think she has the behavior for Globe, Globe is not Sharks. Maybe she could make business if she really provides public sex, but only one guy claimed to get with her at Sharks. Some guys seem to enjoy being seen, being sucked or fucking a piece of meat, at Globe.
But I would be happy to chat about Sharks with her. I also wait to chat with Raïssa World even I don t plan to go for her.
Dina hu, she gives free rimjob? I would have definitely kept Dina on the repeat list if she gave rimjob service. So bad she does not.Nope is wishfull thinking of you. Read again the free included RJ was from Pamela.
Member #4585
12-02-16, 10:52
Nope is wishfull thinking of you. Read again the free included RJ was from Pamela.Oh I see. I read it and then re-read it and then re-read it again. I did think at one stage these were two different references. One for Dina and one for Pamela but then we have not been talking about Pamela at all recently apart from one comment of Master Szygies, just Steffi and Dina. Based on that I then decided that you were comparing the body of Dina having the same corpulent body as Pamela had which to me makes sense as they both do, then with the added comment on rimjob and the other comment made sense in context.
Maybe breaking out the girl reference notes into separate paragraphs would make it clearer for me.
Thank you as ever for your report Mr Craiova.
Lastly I session with Steffie again I really like her face but she doesn't do much kissing so I was very dissapointed, LOL.
A turkish (gang member?) got knocked down by another gang around 2 am. The guys left and later I was told that there were alot of polizei outside. A girl tells me that this happens every week. Guess Sharks is more dangerous than I imagined.
again Evita n Cosmina busy with their asian guy but when that guy disappered they suddenly didnt look that hot anymore, had to take a walk around and even session with turkish guys for 50 e, LOL.
Know we have talked about tourists ruining the service but we forgot to mention the turkish guys. there are alot of them at night and most of these prolly only wants bbbj and fuckSteffi could have been a star with real GFE behavior, but I respect and she was friendly before and in room. She was lucky not to become my weekly regular if she sweetly kisses.
For same girls, different rates for guys, Turkish will never accept upselling, they want sex for 30€ like in AO. That's why some girls are specialized in easy for size, high rate for upselling, Asian business, they are just clever about this. I advised Ariana who was not busy on March, to go into, then she changed of behavior.
Girls never ask me, they just take money I give them, Cosmina did after our room on February 2014 , when I tried all pretty girls for my Sharks discovery, she was not blond at this time. No one never went to desk.
December will be Russian escorts rates because Christmas presents arrived in Paris. Less kilometers, more money, before Switzerland closer to ski.
Nick The G
12-02-16, 13:05
The LU was very not good sure there were some pretty ones but I've been with most of them and I don't feel like repeating again that soon. Much more quiet than yesterday so potentially it could be a good day to session with top girls problem was that none of my faves showed up.
BTW a lot of wait for drinks unlike GT / LR where girls can get their own drinks and even serve customers. Some of the girls working at the bar totally ignores you sometimes.
again Evita n Cosmina busy with their asian guy but when that guy disappered they suddenly didnt look that hot anymore, had to take a walk around and even session with turkish guys for 50 e, LOL. I had the same impression. Most of the well known girls were missing on Thursday. That was rather disappointing for me too. Of course Thursday is a much quieter day than Wednesday. What I liked were the Sauna sessions with a guy from "Genuss-Aufguss". When I came to the club at around 5 pm, the club was looking pretty empty. That gradually changed after 8 pm and after 11 pm it became significantly more crowded with lots of turkish guys coming.
I find Evita not so sexy looking anymore, don't know what has changed.
Dina and Nicoletta are not sisters. They maybe use it as their sales pitch, but they are not.
HB.If Dina and Nicoletta were not sisters or half-sisters, then do you think Dina was a female pimp or boss for Nicoletta? Or they both were controlled by a pimp? If it was true, it would really terrify me.
Although Nicoletta is not my fav, we only went to room a couple of times, I still wish she would have good life in the future and keep most of money she earned from the hardship she suffered.
Not trying to "mock" you, but how can I trust a Dina review from a monger that only spent 3 grand on Dina? Is that like only 15 minutes worth of Dina's time? I'm surprised she even looked at you for that little trivial amount.Well, 3 grand is trivial to me or most regular mongers, but it is about 30 hours worth of Dina's time. Did Dina charge you 12000 an hour rate? If it is case, too bad. Otherwise I could not figure out why her "15 minutes" worth 3000.
Well, 3 grand is trivial to me or most regular mongers, but it is about 30 hours worth of Dina's time. Did Dina charge you 12000 an hour rate? If it is case, too bad. Otherwise I could not figure out why her "15 minutes" worth 3000.Of course not, she is friendly enough to to me to give me the Dina VIP discount. I only pay 30000 a day for her! She is so nice!
Member #4581
12-02-16, 21:52
I had one session with Steffi, and she is a nice sweet girl, but I can't agree that she is a top looker at Sharks. She has a good body, face is pleasant, although in my recent visit, she covered up her body most of the time, which is a shame. Not sure why she was doing it, or if she grew any fat. Don't think she did. I would rank her clearly well below my top lookers (Janine, Evita, Nelli, Tatiana, etc). That doesn't mean these top lookers are the best service providers, which they are not. I love Tatiana of course, but Evita is almost exclusive to Asians now, and Janine we all know. Anyway, my 2 cents.
Based on that I then decided that you were comparing the body of Dina having the same corpulent body as Pamela had which to me makes sense as they both do, ....I don't see any reason to compare Dina and the former Pamela. It seems a little incongruous.
Looks, service style and fun levels were very different. Chalk and Cheese we might say. I think Dina has now outgrown Pamela as well for thigh size.
The important thing was that Pamela was sweet and very consistent, always trying to please. I really liked her face a lot. Never had better for my style of session.
New paragraph. LOL
I did not really rate Dina that highly for face, body, GFE, illusion or fun service. I guess good tits yes. No reason to repeat at all. Her friend Elli also gave me no reason to repeat. Perhaps neither of them liked me at all. Also obviously I like slimmer in body and face ideally.
Of course not, she is friendly enough to to me to give me the Dina VIP discount. I only pay 30000 a day for her! She is so nice!No idea what were you talking about. Anyone could figure out what did Mr Aznhotboy said?
In Germany, we use Euro. Are you Japanese? I figure out that Your unit of currency is the yen. That could explain your misunderstanding of my posts. LOL.
Hessen Bub
12-03-16, 10:54
If Dina and Nicoletta were not sisters or half-sisters, then do you think Dina was a female pimp or boss for Nicoletta? Or they both were controlled by a pimp? If it was true, it would really terrify me.
Don't know, don't care. Why can't they just be friends?
HB.
PussyLiccker
12-03-16, 12:26
I had one session with Steffi, and she is a nice sweet girl, but I can't agree that she is a top looker at Sharks. She has a good body, face is pleasant, although in my recent visit, she covered up her body most of the time, which is a shame. Not sure why she was doing it, or if she grew any fat. Don't think she did. I would rank her clearly well below my top lookers (Janine, Evita, Nelli, Tatiana, etc). That doesn't mean these top lookers are the best service providers, which they are not. I love Tatiana of course, but Evita is almost exclusive to Asians now, and Janine we all know. Anyway, my 2 cents.Steffi is not a top looker at Sharks. She is sweet and has a nice smile, pretty face. She has potential so well if her services improves. Perhaps even become the next Asian killer and do long rooms if she upscales her services.
ExpatLover
12-03-16, 13:33
If Dina and Nicoletta were not sisters or half-sisters, then do you think Dina was a female pimp or boss for Nicoletta? Or they both were controlled by a pimp? If it was true, it would really terrify me.
Although Nicoletta is not my fav, we only went to room a couple of times, I still wish she would have good life in the future and keep most of money she earned from the hardship she suffered.Don't be terrified you will never get the truth, FKK is a special world were the girls and we the mongers are cheating, lets keep it like this.
Steffi is not a top looker at Sharks. She is sweet and has a nice smile, pretty face. She has potential so well if her services improves. Perhaps even become the next Asian killer and do long rooms if she upscales her services.Your tastes PL, not mine. Steffi. Ro is kind of look I like: pretty face, shy smile when she smiles, natural slim body, white skin, no tattoo, a real miracle, just pleasure for my eyes compare to truck driver Sena look, even she is smiling and seems friendly. Even I didn t repeat, not because of her, she was honest and has sweet behavior, but too frustrating room without kisses. I repeated with Anja but Anja doesn't have much sweetness inside of her, more a playful girl. One of my regret at Sharks, is Steffi, she was my regular girls type, with classier behavior for me than Janine or many others, and not many attractive girls since a while. Fortunately, many, elsewhere.
If Dina and Nicoletta were not sisters or half-sisters, then do you think Dina was a female pimp or boss for Nicoletta? Or they both were controlled by a pimp? If it was true, it would really terrify me.
Although Nicoletta is not my fav, we only went to room a couple of times, I still wish she would have good life in the future and keep most of money she earned from the hardship she suffered.I wish, with her beauty, Dina can make her own money, with her own room, and she is only a taxi driver for free.
For those who knew her, Elektra. Hu who left GT, asked 50 € per day to another Hungarian girl, she gave GT address and made her start. A real shame. I'm afraid my past Romanian Medusa has also to pay her "friend" even they know each other since they were children in deep Romania.
Friend don't seem to have same meaning in this bad business, some girls steal others, some girls pimp other girls, not only guys pimp. Not the best place to find real friends.
I did not really rate Dina that highly for face, body, GFE, illusion or fun service. I guess good tits yes. No reason to repeat at all. Her friend Elli also gave me no reason to repeat. Perhaps neither of them liked me at all. Also obviously I like slimmer in body and face ideally.Different people have different tastes sir. To me I like everything about Dina. But I agree Dina and Elli dislike you with same reason mentioned above that all of girls (not only Dina, all of girls!) have each tastes about men. From my experience at Sharks I also got poor session with Bianca, I guess she also dislikes me. But, I never blame her. I should see through how she feel likes about me before the session.
You know if you're thought to be good one by Dina, she asks do you want me to tell you cellphone number?'It happened to me very 1st time session.
No idea what were you talking about. Anyone could figure out what did Mr Aznhotboy said?
In Germany, we use Euro. Are you Japanese? I figure out that Your unit of currency is the yen. That could explain your misunderstanding of my posts. LOL.There is no misunderstanding Mr JohnEllee. Tell me more about the unit of currency being used in the place called Germany. This Europe thing you say. Can I use that in FKK?
You know if you're thought to be good one by Dina, she asks do you want me to tell you cellphone number?'It happened to me very 1st time session.Yes this is true. For a girl's number, I always ask them on the last sessions, it's for me to text them if they are working when I come back a few months later. I was surprised when Dina wanted to tell me her number on the 1st time. I told her I'm not a regular and she didn't care. LOL.
Very slow day at Sharks didn't see the 200 girls I was expecting to see, LOL. Well perhaps the girls went to Oase to make some quick money. The LU on Wednesday was better and I was struggling to find a girl to session with. After I while I finally went with Erica. She seemed easier to talk to than the last time I meet her and she told me today was her last day (not sure if its true).
Later went with Kim again but this time around the session was a bit rushed maybe bc it was too late.
Talk to a local german just before I left around 3 am he told me that he was not happy with the service level at Sharks lately and will not be back (going to a smaller club 20 min by car from Sharks).
The tourists doing several hrs sessions are def spoiling the girls while the turkish guys only want suck and fuck.
Time to make Sharks great again, hehe.
Member #4585
12-04-16, 04:02
Talk to a local german he told me that he was not happy with the service level at Sharks lately and will not be back (going to a smaller club 20 min by car from Sharks).The tourist must be referring to FKK 40 in Dietzenbach or FKK Rom.
PussyLiccker
12-04-16, 04:55
I wish, with her beauty, Dina can make her own money, with her own room, and she is only a taxi driver for free.
Some girls I have not met in the past that got my attention over visits were, steffi, Melody, Esther, Tatiana, Enya, Sandra, Mei Ling, Nicoletta.
Tatiana and Esther's services were weak. Good personalities though.
Heard Milana gives good services, but would not have know by look. Facially, she looks a bit aggressive IMO. Would be considered a hottie though.
Sandra wasn't a service star for me although her BBBJ is real good. Sandy and Mandy were great providers. Highly recommended.
I wouldn't consider Mandy's strong suit is optic, but def a service star for sure. Sandy is more of a petite cute type.
ExpatLover
12-04-16, 05:01
Very slow day at Sharks didn't see the 200 girls I was expecting to see, LOL. Well perhaps the girls went to Oase to make some quick money. The LU on Wednesday was better and I was struggling to find a girl to session with. After I while I finally went with Erica. She seemed easier to talk to than the last time I meet her and she told me today was her last day (not sure if its true).
Later went with Kim again but this time around the session was a bit rushed maybe bc it was too late.
Talk to a local german just before I left around 3 am he told me that he was not happy with the service level at Sharks lately and will not be back (going to a smaller club 20 min by car from Sharks).
The tourists doing several hrs sessions are def spoiling the girls while the turkish guys only want suck and fuck.
Time to make Sharks great again, hehe.As already shared with you several weeks back, for many German guys Shark is over rated and they are moving to other places like Oase, World. I am half German and I don't like to fight for a girl like we have to do it at Shark, sometimes the ration man to woman is very bad so why not going to other places where it is more relax.
PussyLiccker
12-04-16, 05:36
I don't see any reason to compare Dina and the former Pamela. It seems a little incongruous.
Looks, service style and fun levels were very different. Chalk and Cheese we might say. I think Dina has now outgrown Pamela as well for thigh size.
The important thing was that Pamela was sweet and very consistent, always trying to please. I really liked her face a lot. Never had better for my style of session.
New paragraph. LOL
I did not really rate Dina that highly for face, body, GFE, illusion or fun service. I guess good tits yes. No reason to repeat at all. Her friend Elli also gave me no reason to repeat. Perhaps neither of them liked me at all. Also obviously I like slimmer in body and face ideally.I would not rate Dina all that highly for total package either. Face is one of the prettier ones at Sharks IMO. Body, not much so. Didn't get a good look this time, but in the past body was pretth plain. A bit thicker at the bottom and thicker legs.
Likely, she is a smart pro, and this works on some folks. There are several of those types at Sharks. Probably the Asian killers.
PussyLiccker
12-04-16, 07:35
Some girls I have not met in the past that got my attention over visits were, steffi, Melody, Esther, Tatiana, Enya, Sandra, Mei Ling, Nicoletta.
Add Bianka.
Hessen Bub
12-04-16, 07:42
The tourist must be referring to FKK 40 in Dietzenbach or FKK Rom.It was a local not a tourist making that statement. He probably meant Rom, yes.
HB.
Was at Sharks earlier this week. I echo the comments about the line up not being that strong though there were a few good lookers around but not that many. Had two sessions during my visit. First one was with Diana from Romania. Cute slim blonde. Ok session. Soft attempt at anal upsell with me but wasn't too interested as I preferred them nice and tight but Diana's butt has been around the circuit a bit and I'll probably wouldn't feel anything.
Second session was with Adriana from Germany. Said she was of Italian ancestry. Amazing jugs. Natural D cups and really pretty face. Session in the room was pretty terrible. She kept on wrapping her fingers around my cock when I was pumping. Kind of annoying as I couldn't get any deep penetration going. The session was reminiscent to the one I had with Leya / Brandy / Brenda from a while back. Big tits but limited penetration. Not going to repeat with Adriana but will give Leya / Brandy / Brenda another try when she is back as she is one hot looker.
Wanted to repeat with Yvette and Mischa, both from Romania but couldn't see them during the rest of the evening. Seems like Janine has put on some weight.
Will be back to Sharks soon to check out Mandy and Dina. Can anyone assist with where they normally sit; how they look or anything that can help me spot them right away?
Thanks. Howie.
Hessen Bub
12-04-16, 07:43
The tourists doing several hrs sessions are def spoiling the girls while the turkish guys only want suck and fuck.
As said before, it's not so much the long sessions. It's accepting low service levels and paying more than standard price.
HB.
Will be back to Sharks soon to check out Mandy and Dina. Can anyone assist with where they normally sit; how they look or anything that can help me spot them right away?Mandy doesn't do much sitting she usually get picked up right away. From experience you should wait by the money lockers for her. She is a blond German girl and probably have a line waiting for her when she is there.
Dina sits right by the bar entrance facing the main entrance. It gives her a clear view on who is coming into the club. She can be busy at times but you'll have better luck picking her up than Mandy.
As already shared with you several weeks back, for many German guys Shark is over rated and they are moving to other places like Oase, World. I am half German and I don't like to fight for a girl like we have to do it at Shark, sometimes the ration man to woman is very bad so why not going to other places where it is more relax.Yeah me either esp the few ones that get booked constantly e. G. Milana.
She was rarely in the lounge always some guys booking her for a few hrs.
As said before, it's not so much the long sessions. It's accepting low service levels and paying more than standard price.
HB.Guess you are rite since there are only a few girls that get long sessions.
Yeah me either esp the few ones that get booked constantly e. G. Milana.
She was rarely in the lounge always some guys booking her for a few hrs.
Guess you are rite since there are only a few girls that get long sessions.Serbian brunette Milana? Not so busy when I saw her, not attracted by her face.
Aylice. Bu was booked for several days in the club, but high level little Bulgarian princess.
I wish, with her beauty, Dina can make her own money, with her own room, and she is only a taxi driver for free.
For those who knew her, Elektra. Hu who left GT, asked 50 per day to another Hungarian girl, she gave GT address and made her start. A real shame. I'm afraid my past Romanian Medusa has also to pay her "friend" even they know each other since they were children in deep Romania.
Friend don't seem to have same meaning in this bad business, some girls steal others, some girls pimp other girls, not only guys pimp. Not the best place to find real friends.Just because Alexandra (ex Barbie) at GT told you this story about evil Elektra it doesn't mean it's true. As usual you like to put up some drama based only on gossip, on topics you don't have a clue about and that are of no great interest. It's not that I hold the truth, but I don't write here all the bullshit gossip that comes to my ears.
I will have to add myself to those who find Mandy somewhat overhyped. Cute yes, good service yes, german yes, very energetic and not shy yes but lacking some sensuality for me.
Similar story like german Lisa hype in GT. Plus Mandy's body is really petite.
Milana or even Sandra are in another (sex) league, just to name two. Agnes could be also up there, if she worked more on her BBJ skills.
Hessen Bub
12-04-16, 16:35
I will have to add myself to those who find Mandy somewhat overhyped. Cute yes, good service yes, german yes, very energetic and not shy yes but lacking some sensuality for me.
Similar story like german Lisa hype in GT. Plus Mandy's body is really petite.
Milana or even Sandra are in another (sex) league, just to name two. Agnes could be also up there, if she worked more on her BBJ skills.Thank you. Welcum to the club. Mandy is overrated. Lisa also.
Milana is very sensual and has style.
HB.
Serbian brunette Milana? Not so busy when I saw her, not attracted by her face.
Aylice. Bu was booked for several days in the club, but high level little Bulgarian princess.Yes serbian Milana. She got several regulars that books her for hrs and 1 superfan that I also saw on my last trip.
Makes it hard for guys like me that attends infrequently.
I know some guys not attracted to her face but I am.
Nick The G
12-04-16, 22:48
Just because Alexandra (ex Barbie) at GT told you this story about evil Elektra it doesn't mean it's true. As usual you like to put up some drama based only on gossip, on topics you don't have a clue about and that are of no great interest. It's not that I hold the truth, but I don't write here all the bullshit gossip that comes to my ears.Very good and utterly true comment, not only with regards to Sirioja! There is a club of bullshit gossip distributors working here! The share of bullshit rumors is reciprocal in proportion to the lack of self-esteem.
No bullshit: since beginning of December 2016, the entry fee for Sundays has been increased from 45 to now 50 Euro!
BigBuddy69
12-04-16, 22:55
There is another price increase on Wednesday no?
There is another price increase on Wednesday no?Nope Wednesday still 50 euro in December.
Just because Alexandra (ex Barbie) at GT told you this story about evil Elektra it doesn't mean it's true. As usual you like to put up some drama based only on gossip, on topics you don't have a clue about and that are of no great interest. It's not that I hold the truth, but I don't write here all the bullshit gossip that comes to my ears.Do you think I wrote this just to have 1 more post? The Hungarian girl was really scared about Elektra and her friends, and not the only girl who make pay another girl for advice or help given. I wrote I wish Dina does it for free for her "sister" Nicoletta.
Also girls who steal others.
When I wrote about Karolina. Pol pimp, I was with her on a Monday afternoon, on September 2015 , just before IAA, in the garden, and I heard when he called her, how she was crying on phone, we used our phones in the garden, and stressed about money after. Some who met her, would understand about what she asked.
But I agree for tattooed, past blond, now brunette, new Lisa. De at GT. She plays pornstar, but no sensuality and limited vagina. Can t say anything about Mandy because never tried, but she seems friendly, which is a good start to enjoy with her.
I will have to add myself to those who find Mandy somewhat overhyped. Cute yes, good service yes, german yes, very energetic and not shy yes but lacking some sensuality for me.
"Overhyped" is not a great word and over used IMHO. It seems to imply somewhat "bullshit" or fake publicity. I have not tried Mandy but have no problem with those that rave about her. No one promises she will be perfection for someone like you, especially being a largely a pessimist and negative poster. "Lacking some Sensuality". Wow, how damning. Not every guy can see the girl in the same way.
Some girls have the attitude to make the most of what they got.
BTW, I thought Agnes's BBBJ was really great and was adjusted to how I like it.
"Overhyped" is not a great word and over used IMHO. It seems to imply somewhat "bullshit" or fake publicity. I have not tried Mandy but have no problem with those that rave about her. No one promises she will be perfection for someone like you, especially being a largely a pessimist and negative poster. "Lacking some Sensuality". Wow, how damning. Not every guy can see the girl in the same way.
Some girls have the attitude to make the most of what they got.
BTW, I thought Agnes's BBBJ was really great and was adjusted to how I like it.Thank god for Prof. Syz patronizing the forums, always so positive about all the girls (low service requirements by own admission + known by the girls so he can't post anything negative about them, that is a smart combination) and so negative about other posters style, and now even choice of words.
But anyway thanks for your unasked for and uninteresting opinion about my opinion.
Horny Harry
12-05-16, 15:14
Steffi is not a top looker at Sharks. She is sweet and has a nice smile, pretty face. She has potential so well if her services improves. Perhaps even become the next Asian killer and do long rooms if she upscales her services.Does she always sit at the bar with a towel wrapped around her waist? I briefly talked to her once, she's very cute and seemed sweet and nice but not very busy.
Member #4674
12-05-16, 16:24
Hello, everyone.
As the normal business with a FKK WG is 30min-1h or may extend to 1.5h or 2h.
But now I have met a girl who I like her a lot so would like to invest and spend a little bit more with her.
I have seen in the club and heard that some guys took 5,6,7...Hour with a girl in the room, some buy expensive bottle of liquor and let the girl stay all the time, some may take the girl back to his hotel when they get a deal.
I have never tried spend "long-term" with any FKK girls. Also don't know the rules about buying bottles to spend long term. How value is the bottle if you want the girl stay with you all night? Or if you would like to invite her to your hotel, what is the price should offered and if should negociate this when is near closing time of the club? Or just buy several hours and let her stay with you in the ZIMMER, easy and useful?
Could any expert can indicate me a little bit your "LT" experience or what is the common "rules" and which may be the best option to gain success experience?
When stay more time in monger world, the necessary is more than just a great sex, but companion and spiritual fulfillment. Especially when you ran into the "right" girl and would take a risk or chance, especially when you get older.
Thanks in advance!
There is no rule for long term booking. If you actually find the right girl she will stay with you for little money. I've had girls at LR and GT where I spent a couple hours with them outside the rooms for free and only pay for room time. Do keep in mind that the girls are there to make money and not looking for love or spiritual fulfillment. It really depends on the girl, my friend and I had offers to hang out for free outside of the club with a couple girls but those are very very rare.
At Sharks the girls are more materialistic than at LR or GT, so you'd probably have to spend the money on zimmer time if they know this is what you like. Buying them drinks isn't going to cover the time they spent with you because they are there to make money not to get drunk.
Although if you are a regular at Sharks a few girls might drink with you for free or an hour or so but those are few in between. Now if you are really handsome and nice they might like you and then none of this really matters.
My personal experience at Sharks for LT booking has been about the same rate as everyone else. 100 eu for 1 HR. I think at best I pay 1000 for maybe 12-14 hours at Sharks.
As for inviting the girl to your hotel, not a lot of girls will do that, but from experience it'll be another 500 eu minimum plus how long you booked them during the day. Some girls might take you up on the offer if you are a big fish and they want to keep you as a customer. Shark's management is planning to open up a hotel near by so then there might be actual official pricing coming soon. I don't think it'll be priced at a lower rate than it is now.
It's all about the money, but you might get lucky!
Hello,
I am thinking of visiting Sharks on Dec 22, only two days before Christmas eve. Does anybody have experience from previous years concerning lineup so close to the holidays? Will it be considerably reduced?
Thank you for any hints.
Member #4581
12-05-16, 23:08
I also think over-hyped is a bad choice of words. As soon as two or three posters somewhat positive reviews about a girl, a fourth guy jumps in with xyz is over-hyped. OK, if there were a hundred comments, all of them raving and extremely positive about a girl when that girl is not generally busy to start with, that is one thing. But where is the need to put down a girl simply because three or four posters like a girl? In the case of Mandy, she is a very busy girl, so the market obviously disagrees that she is over-hyped. If she was over-hyped, hundreds or more guests would not spending thousands of euros to solicit her company. And when some poster claims she is over-hyped, especially in the case of a popular girl, it clearly means your opinion is in the minority, perhaps even an outlier. Such a person is hardly qualified to say some girl is over-hyped, given your taste is outside mainstream.
Mia and Moira have been talked general positively for a long time around here. I didn't even know who they were. Recently I talked to them both and found out who they are, and now I know I had seen both of them many many times earlier, but just never found either to be my optical spec. Whether they are good in the sack and have skills or not, does not even matter time as I am not even attracted to them to try; that doesn't mean I will come here and claim they are over-hyped girls. Just happens they are not MY spec but could be attractive to several others (as they clearly seem to be).
Member #4581
12-05-16, 23:30
You can negotiate the rate and don't need to buy any bottles. What is a right rate? I think 1000 a night or even for 24 hrs is a high but good number, and would be surprised if you can't negotiate at that rate or below with most girls, unless your girl is a very busy girl that makes more than a grand night in, night out. You should try it for a day like Monday / Tuesday, as they are less busy and more likely to agree to a better rate.
Companionship and spiritual fulfillment? No comment.
I have never tried spend "long-term" with any FKK girls. Also don't know the rules about buying bottles to spend long term. How value is the bottle if you want the girl stay with you all night? Or if you would like to invite her to your hotel, what is the price should offered and if should negociate this when is near closing time of the club? Or just buy several hours and let her stay with you in the ZIMMER, easy and useful?
When stay more time in monger world, the necessary is more than just a great sex, but companion and spiritual fulfillment. Especially when you ran into the "right" girl and would take a risk or chance, especially when you get older.
Thanks in advance!
ExpatLover
12-06-16, 00:11
Hello, everyone.
As the normal business with a FKK WG is 30min-1h or may extend to 1.5h or 2h.
But now I have met a girl who I like her a lot so would like to invest and spend a little bit more with her.
I have seen in the club and heard that some guys took 5,6,7...Hour with a girl in the room, some buy expensive bottle of liquor and let the girl stay all the time, some may take the girl back to his hotel when they get a deal.
I have never tried spend "long-term" with any FKK girls. Also don't know the rules about buying bottles to spend long term. How value is the bottle if you want the girl stay with you all night? Or if you would like to invite her to your hotel, what is the price should offered and if should negociate this when is near closing time of the club? Or just buy several hours and let her stay with you in the ZIMMER, easy and useful?..The prices of the bottle depend of the club but in each one you will get the price list at the bar. For the girls consider a maximum of 100 euros per hour, but you can negotiate down case by case, first may be try 3 hours and than it is easy to extend the girls like to spend many hours in the room with the same customer. All the girls will not accept to go with you to your hotel especially if she doesn't know you and also they want to do it in a very discreet way. Good luck.
Member #4585
12-06-16, 01:55
I also think over-hyped is a bad choice of words. As soon as two or three posters somewhat positive reviews about a girl, a fourth guy jumps in with xyz is over-hyped. OK, if there were a hundred comments, all of them raving and extremely positive about a girl when that girl is not generally busy to start with, that is one thing. But where is the need to put down a girl simply because three or four posters like a girl? In the case of Mandy, she is a very busy girl, so the market obviously disagrees that she is over-hyped. If she was over-hyped, hundreds or more guests would not spending thousands of euros to solicit her company. And when some poster claims she is over-hyped, especially in the case of a popular girl, it clearly means your opinion is in the minority, perhaps even an outlier. Such a person is hardly qualified to say some girl is over-hyped, given your taste is outside mainstream..Jnpr30, my gratitude to you, for your voice of reason, against the tide of locals' pessimism.
What you say makes sense and stacks up better than some of the unstantiated naysayer comments.
Thank you.
Member #4581
12-06-16, 04:26
Is the proposed new construction facility for men at Sharks purely a place to crash in the night, like the girls hostel albeit at a higher price for men, or is that a place for long term booking with Sharks girls? I. E. Would they rent it you only if you book a girl for the night, and not rent a room to you if you just want to pay 75 per night and sleep till next day opening?
I know this is too early to speculate, but in case anyone knows.
As for spending some extra time with girls within the club, not hours and hours, but say 10 to 20 min, it is not difficult. Depends on your relationship with the girl. Several girls wait for me if I am finishing a drink, or if I tell them I will be ready in a little while. If it is a girl you know well and if you have a good chemistry, of course you can chat, goof around, or even neck a little. Some guys give girls massages. A win win, the girl gets a free massage, the guy gets to grope and fondle a girl for free, all out in the open to the envy of other mangers. I have done it a couple of times, but only when a girl asked; others, who are less shy than me directly offer this to the girls, I know.
Of course, all of this has to be within reason. For girls, time is money. They are paying to work there, so they are hardly there to provide us amusement and company to pass time when we are between sessions. So, I don't try to waste their time, or even get some additional free time, unless I know I will take a session relatively soon. When I know I am not going to have a session because I am not ready, and if the initial Hello, starts getting prolonged into a nice conversion, I politely interject that I just had a session and will not be ready for a while and she should keep that in mind before she spends too much time with me.
Aylice, the cute little Bulgarian princess as Siri calls her, used to be one who would spend quite a bit of free time with me on the couches. Not just talking but even petting, kissing, massaging my little John under my towel etc, and didn't mind she was not getting paid for that time. However, she did get paid, as I used to tip her to make up for that time more or less.
PussyLiccker
12-06-16, 06:09
Met or seen: Enya, Evita, Patricia (tall, black hair), Mandy, Sandy, Sandra, Mei Ling, Milana, Dina, Nicoletta, Lorena, Megan, Tatiana, Esther, Bianca, Lavinia, Diana, Melody, Janine, Madelina, Moira, Angela, Chris, Nastia, Roxanna, Paloma, Teressa, Steffi.
Not seen or met: Yeliz, Rebecca (blond, nice tits), Ariana (at Mainhattan), Chrissi, Cindy.
Steffi seems really sweet, and fun gal. Unfortunately, no real kisses offered. So didn't try.
Sandra did not meet the expectations I had in mind. Great BBBJ though. Best looking De girl seen at Sharks thus far.
Mandy did however, great service. Not a model or anything, GND. No hype, and Sandy was great as well, red hair, lots of colorful tattoos, petite type. Both De girls recommended.
Teresa, cute face, tall like Megan with slight resemblance, but thicker body. Seems inexperienced. Funny part was she grabbed my head when kissing so I don't move my head forward. Hehe. Afraid of some intense kissin from mua? LOL.
Would have liked to try Enya and Bianca, but didn't get the right vibe with them. Wuz my intuition right?
Angela, long brunette with red band around her waste, one of the pretty faced that I have not seen before. A bit mellow, but easygoing. Good session. Would recommend, but don't expect anything intense or passionate.
Patricia, skinny tall brunette with beaky nose. Not really my type or hint of eroticism. Nice girl though, good personality. GFE, and can provided a great time in and outside the room, fun to talk with. Recommended if into GFE, cuddly types.
Esther, I'm really attracted to her. She has one of the prettiest face IMO. Really cute, and fun personality. Did she play the Jacuzzi game with yall too?(if you know what I mean) Sly girl. LOL. Avg session.
Tatiana, ex-Oase Sonia. Petite, pretty face. Her personality was better than expected as the session went onwards. I guess that's the draw for some folks. Service was ok.
Several months ago I posted a few questions (under another user name--long story) about my then upcoming visit to an FKK club for the first time. It happened to be Sharks. Ortos was kind enough to respond, and I've been remiss to report on my visit until now.
I went on a Wednesday in mid October, and of course was immediately both stunned and thrilled. I sat at the bar and luckily met a veteran from the USA Who took me under his wing. I went to rooms with three girls, as follows:
1. Karin (SP? Attractive, B-C cup, who said it was only her second week at an FKK club. I thought I made it clear that I only wanted a 30 minute session, but when we got to the room I repeated so as to confirm, and she said that she would only do a one hour session. I said OK, put on my robe and started for the door. She had a quick change of heart. Standard activities for what I've come to know in this forum, albeit halfhearted effort by her. Of course, not having partaken of anyone that young or beautiful in seemingly forever, I thought I'd died and gone to heaven. However, I wouldn't repeat based on her attitude.
I went to sit on one of the couches next, and had a very interesting conversation with some nice guys from Deutschland. During our conversation I was approached by a marginally attractive girl who repeatedly asked me to take her to a room. I tried everything I knew to shed her, finally saying that I'd think about it later. I learned my first lesson. Don't give an inch. She sat at the bar for the next two hours and glared at me, almost daring me to go to a room with someone else so she could exhibit her displeasure. A nice girl whose name I didn't get saw what was happening and walked up to say that I shouldn't worry about it. She didn't hit on me at all. I think it was pretty obvious I was somewhat out of my element.
2. Ada--the thing that is quirky about this girl is that while you're seated at the bar she comes up behind you and sticks her finger in your ear or blows very forcefully into it. It's pretty annoying, but when I wheeled around in my seat her looks immediately overcame any annoyance. 5'5" Romanian, blonde, very fit, tanned, be-see cup. I was just immediately struck. We went to a room and she didn't protest my stated desire for a 30 minute session at all. In retrospect, she must have had a pretty good idea that her work was going to be completed very quickly, which it was, but the sight of her sitting on top of me was just mind boggling. I would have repeated, but ended the night with another beautiful blonde who I've seen mentioned on here, Roxanna.
3. Roxanna--very similar description to Ada--similar enough in looks to my eyes that they could be sisters. Maybe my memory is foggy however. Again, just requested a 30 minute session, which she didn't like, but readily agreed to. She was easily the most talented of the three. I felt like that I had a glimpse of what you guys refer to as good service. Again, not surprisingly, she made quick work of me after giving me a short but good back massage.
This is obviously my first report, and I apologize for leaving out any necessary details. I want to thank Ortos for his nice advice a few months ago. I always particularly enjoy his, Bitumen's and Hessen Bub's posts, not to slight any of the rest of you. You are all (almost) quite entertaining and informative. I hope to make it back in the next few months. What an experience!
Finito 14.
Mia and Moira have been talked general positively for a long time around here. I didn't even know who they were. Recently I talked to them both and found out who they are, and now I know I had seen both of them many many times earlier, but just never found either to be my optical spec. Whether they are good in the sack and have skills or not, does not even matter time as I am not even attracted to them to try; that doesn't mean I will come here and claim they are over-hyped girls. Just happens they are not MY spec but could be attractive to several others (as they clearly seem to be).Well stated. My top 3 girls in Sharks ever were fabulous in the room but not likely to be spec of everyone, in fact none if them were even my spec, so I took a long time to try all 3.
Pamela (gone), Agnes, and Moira.
Amazes me that the negative posters will be unwilling to be impressed by one girl, but are afraid to state which girls are so much better and why.
I am suspecting that Mandy must be No. 1 in demand girl right now, even I never met her. I would love to hear which girls are so much better, if there are any, since I have been a bit bored at Sharks recently.
Steffi seems really sweet, and fun gal. Unfortunately, no real kisses offered. So didn't try.
Sandy was great as well, red hair, lots of colorful tattoos, petite type.
Esther, I'm really attracted to her. She has one of the prettiest face IMO. Really cute, and fun personality. Did she play the Jacuzzi game with yall too?(if you know what I mean) Sly girl. LOL. Avg session.
Steffis has one of the prettiest face at Sharks too bad she doesn't rly kisses (I'm a face guy). I kinda knew it but still sessioned with her bc of all the flirting outside, LOL.
I wanted to try Sandy on Friday but she was busy and didn't show up on Sat. Normally not my spec but cute and based on my interaction with her should provide good service.
Esther totally ignored me on this trip guess she rmb me. I'm not overly attracted to her otherwise wud have tried her a long time ago.
Horny Harry
12-06-16, 11:00
Steffis has one of the prettiest face at Sharks too bad she doesn't rly kisses (I'm a face guy). I kinda knew it but still sessioned with her bc of all the flirting outside, LOL.So is she the one who sits at the bar with a towel wrapped around her waist?
Member #4674
12-06-16, 13:46
There is no rule for long term booking. If you actually find the right girl she will stay with you for little money. I've had girls at LR and GT where I spent a couple hours with them outside the rooms for free and only pay for room time. Do keep in mind that the girls are there to make money and not looking for love or spiritual fulfillment. It really depends on the girl, my friend and I had offers to hang out for free outside of the club with a couple girls but those are very very rare.
At Sharks the girls are more materialistic than at LR or GT, so you'd probably have to spend the money on zimmer time if they know this is what you like. Buying them drinks isn't going to cover the time they spent with you because they are there to make money not to get drunk.
Although if you are a regular at Sharks a few girls might drink with you for free or an hour or so but those are few in between. Now if you are really handsome and nice they might like you and then none of this really matters.
My personal experience at Sharks for LT booking has been about the same rate as everyone else. 100 eu for 1 HR. I think at best I pay 1000 for maybe 12-14 hours at Sharks.
As for inviting the girl to your hotel, not a lot of girls will do that, but from experience it'll be another 500 eu minimum plus how long you booked them during the day. Some girls might take you up on the offer if you are a big fish and they want to keep you as a customer. Shark's management is planning to open up a hotel near by so then there might be actual official pricing coming soon. I don't think it'll be priced at a lower rate than it is now.
It's all about the money, but you might get lucky!Before I was thought, if customer buy expensive drink it means a commitment that the girl will stay longer time with him as I have seen many times in different FKKS, I thought If you want sex, pay zimmer time, if you want "talk and flirt and stay with" pay drinks. So these guys were paid drinks and "normal zimmer rate" to let the girl to stay with them? As in Sharks, I had seen several times that "Janine?" Brunette with nice tits sit with a customer (not same) on the sofa near the locker area until club closed and also had seen 2 times Evita stay long time also "lovely talking" with Asian customers.
I also think the best option may be directly, quoted Zimmer rate with the girl and just spend long time with her in the club. If finally got the feeling, than considered if extend to hotel as a "ST--Temporary girlfriend".
As the rooms in Sharks were truly nice and beat every medium-high level hotel in Darmstadt,also you can eat, drink and enjoy in the club which can not do in hotel. But if you invite her to hotel when is very late, the "price-quality" would be lower because the girl will be tired, also it doesn't make sense pay a lot just for "your lover sleep with you". When you fell asleep you just snore comfortably but didn't feel "Love" haha.
Anyway, I think nowadays is hardly to find this level of girls (although most Ro cuties), level of facilities and the 100 euros each hour with GFE service. In US, UK, France and almost ANY PLACE in the world. The market in east Europe have been ruined and in Asia the mongering price have risen dramatically these years especially in China, Thailand even in Vietnam. In South Korea, Japan or Macau as my "internet investigation" you can't find the best German FKK level girls for less than 800-1000 euros for "short time session" plus the language and information barriers.
So. I really appreciated German people to create this "FKK neverland" for us to enjoy the high "price-quality level" product made in Germany.
I hope I will be lucky when I met her again. And many thanks for your suggestions.
So these guys were paid drinks and "normal zimmer rate" to let the girl to stay with them? As in Sharks, I had seen several times that "Janine?" Brunette with nice tits sit with a customer (not same) on the sofa near the locker area until club closed and also had seen 2 times Evita stay long time also "lovely talking" with Asian customers.That guy that sits with Janine is a high roller. He pays for all of her time with him also he pays for the drinks because he likes to drink, a lot. There is some interesting gossip from the other girls about those 2 but that's not for here. As for Evita and the other Asian killers, they are almost certain to be paid for those long love talks.
You can find girls that will sit and talk to you for free for 10, 15, or 30 minutes even at Sharks, but any longer than that it's going to cost you.
PussyLiccker
12-06-16, 16:07
So is she the one who sits at the bar with a towel wrapped around her waist?Likely her. She's fake dirty stright blond. Attractive puppy dog eyes. Sits close to the center of the bar close to the pond thingy behind her when saw last. More of pretty GND looks than hot.
Does anyone know what's the blonde russian girl name? I spent a couple hours with her last Saturday and totally forgot her name. She told me that she's new in Sharks.
That guy that sits with Janine is a high roller. He pays for all of her time with him also he pays for the drinks because he likes to drink, a lot. There is some interesting gossip from the other girls about those 2 but that's not for here. As for Evita and the other Asian killers, they are almost certain to be paid for those long love talks.
You can find girls that will sit and talk to you for free for 10, 15, or 30 minutes even at Sharks, but any longer than that it's going to cost you.I would have no idea what to talk about with girls that charge for social time. Long "presales" happen when the conversation is flowing, which typically means you both enjoy the conversation (it helps if it a quiet day). Sharks is no difference really. I haven't been that much this year (for obvious service related reasons), but still had at least 3 visits with sessions that were preceded by a few hours of social time (well, one of them was an hour and a half). Strangely enough these are the kind of girls that don't need any upsell to keep you in the room for a longer time (and in most cases not just 60 minutes either).
My most extreme example of this was in Mainhattan of all places, where I spent an evening in which I had a total of 45 minutes alone time and about 8 hours of social time (and another hour and a half in the room) with two girls I didn't even know (although I had seen both of them elsewhere before). That really was getting your money's worth for 150 E and a lot of fun as well.
All this just to say that circumstances and mood play a role and it can happen anywhere. it's just not something you can always control, because the average session sure doesn't start like this.
Member #4674
12-06-16, 18:29
You can negotiate the rate and don't need to buy any bottles. What is a right rate? I think 1000 a night or even for 24 hrs is a high but good number, and would be surprised if you can't negotiate at that rate or below with most girls, unless your girl is a very busy girl that makes more than a grand night in, night out. You should try it for a day like Monday / Tuesday, as they are less busy and more likely to agree to a better rate.
Companionship and spiritual fulfillment? No comment.Thank you for your accurate date-price strategy. Unfortunately this girl may still not be a "very busy girl" but surely is one of the highlight in Sharks even considered her face, body or age. Monday Tuesday maybe a better option for negotiation but as I didin't live in Germany, I will choose Wednesday or even weekend to come to ensure she will be present when I come.
When we were in session we have some word or we can say many words in common because of some same hobby and value which I found difficult in FKKS. I appreciate this lucky and thought she is just a perfect GF or lover (at lease for now) for me but can not come true in my real life.
For her I am glad to start my first try, will hit Sharks again in January next year. So, first, hope she will be present, second, hope she will not "change" for the worse.
Member #4674
12-06-16, 18:54
That guy that sits with Janine is a high roller. He pays for all of her time with him also he pays for the drinks because he likes to drink, a lot. There is some interesting gossip from the other girls about those 2 but that's not for here. As for Evita and the other Asian killers, they are almost certain to be paid for those long love talks.
You can find girls that will sit and talk to you for free for 10, 15, or 30 minutes even at Sharks, but any longer than that it's going to cost you.The worst clients are these kind of market destroyers. These guys are just want to buy out the girl with a reasonless style or just spend a lot money as a hobby. Truely recommend these guys to go to casinos.
Before I also heard from a popular girl in Sharks told me that there is an Asian client spend 250 euro with her for 1H and buy her watch, etc.
Although I am Asian, but I really hate and even disgust these kind of behaviors. And believe me all of the best Asian mongering (countries) market are destroying due to these guys and such abundant stupid splurge behaviors.
Before I also heard from a popular girl in Sharks told me that there is an Asian client spend 250 euro with her for 1H and buy her watch, etc.Heard similar story about a Shark girl who got a watch. Honestly 250 eu for an hour isn't even that bad. It's average price if you want all the extras, anal and CIM.
The outrageous ones are the guys spending 2-10 k eu for just a couple of hours. Some even buy the girls cars and flats. Those are the ones ruining the market. I've heard some big spender stories at GT, LR, and Sharks. They are all either Asian or Arab guys.
On the flip side if the guy is really good looking or nice they get to go on vacation with some of the girls for free. Too bad I'm not hot enough LOL!
Carpe Viam
12-06-16, 21:21
But the story was she was in the club and she never kept your appointment with you meaning you were waiting for her to show and still left the club. So bad of her.When a client tells a girl "maybe later", this client is not accused. But when a girl tells a client "maybe later" because she's busy with a client, this girl is accused. I think it's unfair.
Member #4581
12-06-16, 22:49
Anyway, I think nowadays is hardly to find this level of girls (although most Ro cuties), level of facilities and the 100 euros each hour with GFE service. In US, UK, France and almost ANY PLACE in the world. The market in east Europe have been ruined and in Asia the mongering price have risen dramatically these years especially in China, Thailand even in Vietnam. In South Korea, Japan or Macau as my "internet investigation" you can't find the best German FKK level girls for less than 800-1000 euros for "short time session" plus the language and information barriers.
So. I really appreciated German people to create this "FKK neverland" for us to enjoy the high "price-quality level" product made in Germany..In 20 years or 30 or whatever, it is not impossible to imagine that these Eastern European girls could be in pretty high demand. It's happening already, but could be much much more. Reality is, Asia is getting richer. Japan has been for a while, and Korea and Taiwan and smaller ones like Singapore and HK, but now China has hundreds of thousands if not more of dollar millionaires, and that number is going up. India will also rise to some extent. And knowledge and awareness of these European hookers will spread and travel will be easier. Most of these Asians have a thing for white girls, especially blond girls. So, what's happening at Oase and other FRK clubs today, I can easily see that being multiplied ten times and worse as more of the Asian mangers travel and have money. And the supply of white girls willing to fuck all and sundry is not going up at the same rate as the growth of Asian mangers with money and aware and willing to travel. Right now, they are coming to German FKK and other places, but over time, it is quite possible other business models evolve and facilitate where the monger and girl meets to fuck, except the $rate for the girls can only go up.
Member #4581
12-06-16, 22:57
So is she the one who sits at the bar with a towel wrapped around her waist?There might be more than one girl with a towel around the waist and sitting at the bar. Unfortunately, these days, there are quite a few of them. That said, Steffi does have a towel most of the time I saw her, and does sit at the bar or sometimes between the kino and stairs. Don't remember who she hangs out with or who her best buddies are. Many times, just see her alone.
GuyFromParis
12-06-16, 23:09
Before I also heard from a popular girl in Sharks told me that there is an Asian client spend 250 euro with her for 1H
Although I am Asian, but I really hate and even disgust these kind of behaviors. And believe me all of the best Asian mongering (countries) market are destroying due to these guys and such abundant stupid splurge behaviors.You stay one hour in a room with anal session and CIM. It's already 250 euros LOL. Anyway, each customer spends his money like he wants.
Member #4581
12-06-16, 23:09
The worst clients are these kind of market destroyers. These guys are just want to buy out the girl with a reasonless style or just spend a lot money as a hobby. Truely recommend these guys to go to casinos.
Before I also heard from a popular girl in Sharks told me that there is an Asian client spend 250 euro with her for 1H and buy her watch, etc.
Although I am Asian, but I really hate and even disgust these kind of behaviors. And believe me all of the best Asian mongering (countries) market are destroying due to these guys and such abundant stupid splurge behaviors.Not too much you or I can do about it. For now, we are lucky there are plenty of girls, and the situation with Janine is somewhat unique (apparently, her dude is nice enough to "allow her" to fuck a selective client or two, if he likes the guy).
Anyway, this can happen in any other walk of life, and what can you do? In the recent past, house and condo prices in places like London and NYC were bid up to crazy levels because rich people from China, Russia and Middle East had too much money and were looking to stash it away out of the reach of their governments; in that process, regular people who are natives of those cities could not find affordable residential areas in commutable distance anymore. When you think about it, a guy monopolizing a girl like Janine is no big deal, LOL.
The worst clients are these kind of market destroyers. These guys are just want to buy out the girl with a reasonless style or just spend a lot money as a hobby.I see these things different. I'm glad that the girls sometimes have a big sponsor, some even get a nickname from the girls like "Hallelujah". Without that a lot of top act girls wouldn't work anymore in Germany they don't wait for the "I want everything for 50 euro" clients. And when I hear the girls are now a days more or only money-orientated I can only laugh, average earnings of the German FKK club girls is now only around 50 % compared with 10 years ago!
Member #4585
12-07-16, 01:00
When a client tells a girl "maybe later", this client is not accused. But when a girl tells a client "maybe later" because she's busy with a client, this girl is accused. I think it's unfair.But Carpe Viam, I do believe Mr Yama Yama had made an appointment to meet Evita. YamaYama and Evita was supposed to meet at an appointed time. This is why is is so bad of Evita to do this to our orgasm producing hero.
This is a slightly different case than when I girl wants to go with you and you say "maybe later" since you do not make an appointment. Also it is a naive girl in this business who believes the words "maybe later" is a contract that they will have sex later on. If only the real world work in this way, but it does not.
Member #4585
12-07-16, 01:04
Thank you for any hints.The club is a little quiet.
Not too much you or I can do about it. For now, we are lucky there are plenty of girls, and the situation with Janine is somewhat unique (apparently, her dude is nice enough to "allow her" to fuck a selective client or two, if he likes the guy).
Anyway, this can happen in any other walk of life, and what can you do? In the recent past, house and condo prices in places like London and NYC were bid up to crazy levels because rich people from China, Russia and Middle East had too much money and were looking to stash it away out of the reach of their governments; in that process, regular people who are natives of those cities could not find affordable residential areas in commutable distance anymore. When you think about it, a guy monopolizing a girl like Janine is no big deal, LOL.Girls like Janine are only in the club because of her regular guy. People should thank him for giving them access to her by encouraging her to work in the club. He could easily turn her into an escort girl at high prices and she would not be available at all. The fact that she is in the club is not an indication that she would work there if he does not show up.
Heard similar story about a Shark girl who got a watch. Honestly 250 eu for an hour isn't even that bad. It's average price if you want all the extras, anal and CIM.
The outrageous ones are the guys spending 2-10 k eu for just a couple of hours. Some even buy the girls cars and flats. Those are the ones ruining the market. I've heard some big spender stories at GT, LR, and Sharks. They are all either Asian or Arab guys.
On the flip side if the guy is really good looking or nice they get to go on vacation with some of the girls for free. Too bad I'm not hot enough LOL!That is why many of the girls go to Switzerland. Prices have been going down in Germany and are considered rather low.
Banana Boi
12-07-16, 06:51
I would have no idea what to talk about with girls that charge for social time. Long "presales" happen when the conversation is flowing, which typically means you both enjoy the conversation (it helps if it a quiet day).Agreed. I have on many instances had girls sit with me for hours before a session. More often it's after a session and she is done for the night so she will sit with me from say 11 pm til 5 am or whenever the club closes. Of course this happened much more often in the good old days but still common in a club like LR.
Girls like Janine are only in the club because of her regular guy. People should thank him for giving them access to her by encouraging her to work in the club. He could easily turn her into an escort girl at high prices and she would not be available at all. The fact that she is in the club is not an indication that she would work there if he does not show up.Janine started at Sharks on Summer 2014, so we had a lot of time to try her before she started drinking, smoking, touching hair companionship. I met so many other top GFE girls at Sharks, I didn't even regret not to lose 50, compare to women like Agnes. Pol or Roberta. Ro or top class Alice / Kate, or beauties like Ingrid, Rena, Karin or Megan, or top performers like Karolina. Pol, Aylice. Bu, angel Sandra for her behavior, even Ariana when she started, or top GF like Jana. Hu. So many good times at Sharks without Janine. Really no regret about her face, beautiful tits are not enough, Diana, Beatrice ex Oase, Mersi, Anja, I wish she found Zurich or another place where she is fine, can compete for tits challenge. But shining smile and eyes are much more sexy. I remember Roberta sitting close to me while I was watching Austrian F1 , when she was smiling, it was just a torture to keep on watching cars turning around. As soon it was finished, smiles and straight to chalet at 4 pm under sun on hot July, for tornado experience. Really bad luck, when arrived on Friday, she decided to return to Zurich for better business. Never saw her at Globe, she came from Relax. High level Romanian woman, sensual, high skill, a real woman.
Hessen Bub
12-07-16, 07:33
Girls like Janine are only in the club because of her regular guy.She was working before also, that regular guy has been around for a few months max only. Janine has been around far longer.
HB.
I've been to Sharks 3 times. I've seen the outdoor cabins. There are rooms that look like caves up the grand staircase near the Jacuzzi. There are rooms downstairs opposite side of the room from the cinema. There are rooms up another staircase near the small cash boxes, the staircase begins at the small cash boxes.
Where is the VIP area?
How do you become a VIP?
And, another comment, kind of on the LOL side: Have you noticed that, unless you arrive to Sharks with a friend, there is NO talking amongst the men. You're pretty much alone and in a bubble until with a girl.
That is why many of the girls go to Switzerland. Prices have been going down in Germany and are considered rather low.Rates increased at GT, LR and Samya. Before was 75/ h. On end of July, had Russian Katea for 4 h15 for 350 . If I was more concentrated on time, less on sex marathon but she became so hot for a Siberian, should have finished at just 4 hours and just pay only 300. Hessen clubs are 50/30 mn since long time.
I paid 280 for 1 hour with Kate at Globe, our last rooms were 420 for about 2 hours with smiles and kisses before and shower together and kisses after. She was often quite busy, like last Saturday, but always smiling and coming when seeing me. No reason for her to return to Sharks nor World if she decides to return in future. Better business with big money in Switzerland.
Girls like Janine are only in the club because of her regular guy. People should thank him for giving them access to her by encouraging her to work in the club. He could easily turn her into an escort girl at high prices and she would not be available at all. The fact that she is in the club is not an indication that she would work there if he does not show up.What he could do is not worth while worrying about. Janine does show up on some days when he is not there. Saw this recently and she was very busy with a succession of other customers.
Speculation cannot beat the facts. Janine is popular. Plenty of guys are frustrated when they cannot get to her, or are "cock-blocked".
The worst clients are these kind of market destroyers. These guys are just want to buy out the girl with a reasonless style or just spend a lot money as a hobby. Truely recommend these guys to go to casinos.This is a "me me me" attitude. Girls are struggling to make enough money for the most part. If they find ways to make much more money, great for them, bad luck for you. As Craiova says, girls made a lot more money 10 years ago, even forgetting about inflation.
The whole concept that every girl is the club is worth exactly the same money for the same amount of time, is a little silly to me. There are great fucks and beautiful girls, there are also lousy fucks and ugly girls, with no correlation of course.
I accept that I will lose out to a regular customer or an 8 hour booking customer. It's reality.
You can waste your money at a Casino, but it is not sex, completely devoid of any fun at all.
Banana Boi
12-07-16, 11:21
She was working before also, that regular guy has been around for a few months max only. Janine has been around far longer.
HB.Janine has another regular guy? Not the skinny German or Dutch guy with the grey wavy hair?
Hessen Bub
12-07-16, 14:38
Actually I don't care if Janine is present or not when I am there. And I am not paying attention to the sofa group next to the lockers. That area has the sex appeal of an elderly home with some nice girls from time to time.
HB.
ExpatLover
12-07-16, 15:06
Girls like Janine are only in the club because of her regular guy. People should thank him for giving them access to her by encouraging her to work in the club. He could easily turn her into an escort girl at high prices and she would not be available at all. The fact that she is in the club is not an indication that she would work there if he does not show up.The nice girls will earn more in a FKK than to be escort, today average income for a escort in Germany is around 1000 euros per week, some weeks you can earn 3000 or 4000 euros but is a exceptional.
I was confirmed by at least three ex-globe girls that they made less net-income in Globe than in Sharks (or Golden Time), even if Zürich hourly rate is three-time higher than German FKK clubs. So I might conclude that the earning potential should be similar in both Globe and Sharks for stunning girls.
FKK girls make much less money than 10 years ago due to the imbalance of supply and demanding. Girls number might be stable, But aging local German population have less libido and money to spend in FKK clubs. Without a large influx of rich tourists from outside Germany, especially from America and East Asia, the FKK industry would be finished.
All girls hate 50 e half-hour session. We all knew that. I never intend to take this advantage. In room, half hour for sex, the rest half hour for chatting, so I am one-hour-session guy. Quite a few times I offered 3-hour paid sessions, one hour sex in room and two hours sitting and drinking on sofa at lobby or backyard, for a few specific girls I was really in love with. These, however, not only really upset a few jealous clients, who thought I got "free" time from stunning girls, but irritated several my favorite Romanian girls, who also demanded similar special treatments otherwise they would "blackball" me. When I realized issues, I stopped bringing girls outside zimmers during paid sessions.
In Summary, it is unwise to keep saying that rate in Germany is very low. It would fundamentally ruin business with the rate increasing. If you really sympathize with these girls and want to show your respects and kindness to them, please offer them one hour or longer session, which would help these girls to make money in a relatively easy way.
The nice girls will earn more in a FKK than to be escort, today average income for a escort in Germany is around 1000 euros per week, some weeks you can earn 3000 or 4000 euros but is a exceptional.Escorts in Germany make only 1000 per week? I would not leave my bed for so low money. Russian escorts in Paris make 1500/2000 per day, with half for Agency, some girls at Globe make 1500/2000 per day.
Before I also heard from a popular girl in Sharks told me that there is an Asian client spend 250 euro with her for 1H and buy her watch, etc.
Although I am Asian, but I really hate and even disgust these kind of behaviors. And believe me all of the best Asian mongering (countries) market are destroying due to these guys and such abundant stupid splurge behaviors.She was just meaning she wanted you do the same. I never speak about money or present with girls. Romanian girls may know French are poor. As my claimed friend Bitumen says, I need to sleep in my car to be able to pay for rooms. That's why my most often visited club now is Globe with entry 95 and 140/30 mn. But at Aca, I pay 40/30 mn for real beauties.
There might be more than one girl with a towel around the waist and sitting at the bar. Unfortunately, these days, there are quite a few of them. That said, Steffi does have a towel most of the time I saw her, and does sit at the bar or sometimes between the kino and stairs. Don't remember who she hangs out with or who her best buddies are. Many times, just see her alone.Blond Bianka uses to have towel around her ass, she seems to have complex about. As not smiling, but with her ratio ass / body, doggy should be great to look at her.
Stefi uses to stay alone, not hunting, sitting waiting, just behavior I like for a girl. She is different from most other girls at Sharks.
I often saw Mandy turning around for business, smiling, maybe things changed at Sharks, since I don't visit anymore, even I was not asked to leave the club on 5 November, nor to not return. But boring last visits, when can find dreams at GT, LR and Switzerland to go to buy white chocolate for not much more than 3 CHF and to prepare for ski. Snow on mountains now, ski shoes will be tested very soon.
Is beauty Karin, staying at the bar close to restaurant, back at Sharks?
again Evita n Cosmina busy with their asian guy but when that guy disappered they suddenly didnt look that hot anymore, had to take a walk around and even session with turkish guys for 50 e, LOL.
Know we have talked about tourists ruining the service but we forgot to mention the turkish guys. there are alot of them at night and most of these prolly only wants bbbj and fuckI often wrote about Turkish behavior from what Romanian or Bulgarian girls told me: rude sex, being treated like a piece of meat hole, lack of respect, but most often they are only fast 50 € for girls, so they don't make girls level going down.
On the other hand, there are guys who decide to overpay and have hugging, chatting, smoking, drinking rooms, regulars will understand who they are, so girls prefer this easy business which save their vagina.
But can still find many high level girls in Germany, not only Hessen.
Reef LostCause
12-07-16, 22:14
I've been to Sharks 3 times. I've seen the outdoor cabins. There are rooms that look like caves up the grand staircase near the Jacuzzi. There are rooms downstairs opposite side of the room from the cinema. There are rooms up another staircase near the small cash boxes, the staircase begins at the small cash boxes.
Where is the VIP area?
How do you become a VIP?
Just climb the main staircase about three quarters (the one that starts near the money boxes), and there is a platform leading to the VIP rooms on the left.
One time, doors were open (maybe too much waiting at the regular rooms), and the girl I was with noticed and took me there.
Honestly, it's not much better than the best regular rooms (the new ones with a shower directly inside the room). There is a jacuzi, but it takes like forever to fill. Also a private pole for strippers.
I assume it can be booked for some kind of money, but like I said, on this particular day, it happened to be opened, and we just walked in.
UShobbyist
12-07-16, 23:48
I paid 280 for 1 hour with Kate at Globe, our last rooms were 420 for about 2 hours with smiles and kisses before and shower together and kisses after. She was often quite busy, like last Saturday, but always smiling and coming when seeing me. No reason for her to return to Sharks nor World if she decides to return in future. Better business with big money in Switzerland.Did you pay 280 CHF or 280 EUR for 1 hour at Globe?
Did you pay 280 CHF or 280 EUR for 1 hour at Globe?You can pay girls with CHF, € , or USD, 1 for 1, so I pay in €, I keep my few CHF for white chocolate in Zermatt or Verbier soon. Can also pay with credit card, charged 10% with Visa or Mastercard.
But Kate left. But Isabella is back, good reason to return to enjoy with my soon for 3 years GF, since our first room at Sharks on February 2014 when she was with Laura / Livia. I never repeated with Roxana, Cosmina, Dina, but so many rooms with Isabella, at Sharks, then at World where I went with her before going with Madi, and now Globe when Kate is off. Isabella may be the only girl at Globe who doesn't need to make up, just washing, to succeed to inspection, what I call a natural beauty, with no tattoo, and she really improved her level.
Member #4581
12-08-16, 00:26
The best thing about the VIP rooms are the red couches outside, where connoisseurs of public debauchery can see, be seen, and attain sexual nirvana, LOL?
(OK, that last one is a hyperbole; But not by much).
Unfortunately, most guests whether local or foreigners, seem too prudish and shy to participate and perform. It's only sex people! Birds do it, bees do it, we all do it, even you do it inside the room. Let it all hang out, I say.
(One time, I was fucking this girl on the red couch, and another couple was doing the nasty right in my line of sight, and my girl tells me "don't look baby, not nice". I was thinking "says who" Is there any written or unwritten rule about looking? In my book, if you fuck in the open, you want to be seen, period).
BTW, the VIP rooms get opened up pretty much most weekend nights and even some week day nights. As long as there is any line for the rooms, Sharks management is opening the doors, to their credit.
Member #4585
12-08-16, 02:23
Did you pay 280 CHF or 280 EUR for 1 hour at Globe?Sir Siri meant 280 CHF since that would be the going rate for 1 hour of srtvice at Globe club in Zurich. There is close to parity CHF to EUR but EUR still has a premium versus CHF so not quite 1;1 yet.
You also have to forgive Sir Siri sometimss for his lax writing style.
Member #4585
12-08-16, 02:29
The nice girls will earn more in a FKK than to be escort, today average income for a escort in Germany is around 1000 euros per week, some weeks you can earn 3000 or 4000 euros but is a exceptional.I am trying to get my head around this. Your proposition is that nice girls will earn more working in a FKK than if they worked as an escort. The earnings of an escort is 1000 and can be up to 4000 euros you provide as a supporting statement. Given the premise of the initial statement then a FKK girls will earn more than 1000 a week and potentially way more 4000 a week giving better earnings than an escort would earn.
The rationale if I may provide one is the escort will work infrequently but the FKK girl will work regularly and be able to have access to a pool of mongers in a club. So the earning potential of a FKK girl who is nice will invariably be better than an escort in general.
Member #4585
12-08-16, 06:00
I need to sleep in my car to be able to pay for rooms. That's why my most often visited club now is Globe with entry 95 and 140/30 mn. But at Aca, I pay 40/30 mn for real beauties.We all understand your approach. You are not alone Sir Siri. There are always guys on this forum asking about cheapest hotels, cheapest ways to get to the clubs or cheap entry fees for clubs.
Sleeping in your igloo car is one way to save money. Your choice. I am not sure I want to know where you go to take a dump though when stayinv in your car.
As you say, you find ways to save money in one place to be able to spend the money saved elsewhere. It is about making choices. Such as your choice about sleeping in your car and being able to choose to pay 280 CHF a hour at Globe or 80 euros a hour at Acapulco. It is a choice you have made. Similarly, as you say with the money saved by sleeping in your car you can now make Globe your currently most frequented club. Choices and opportunity.
The same way you choose to pay in euro at Globe. This is the same for many eurozone visitors who go to the Swiss clubs. It saves needing to exchange their euros into Swiss Francs. Sometimes I do the same in my visits to Switzerland especially on short visits to pay in euro on a one for one basis. The girls in some clubs also work on the same basis when paying the club to work but of course CHF is worth a discount on the euro so will tend to pay in Swiss Francs whenever possible.
Escorts in Germany make only 1000 per week? I would not leave my bed for so low money. Russian escorts in Paris make 1500/2000 per day, with half for Agency, some girls at Globe make 1500/2000 per day.What he is not taking into account is many escort girls choose to earn less, even if money is there, because they only choose to go with certain clients. The job can be much less stressful because they are not hunting.
They may actually earn more in the long run because they are able to keep their looks up.
Member #4581
12-08-16, 06:10
Speaking of choices, I used to put Canadian quarters into the laundry machines during my undergrad -'Until the landlord caught me.
The rationale if I may provide one is the escort will work infrequently but the FKK girl will work regularly and be able to have access to a pool of mongers in a club. So the earning potential of a FKK girl who is nice will invariably be better than an escort in general.Lana (Dom) once called Luna at Oase, now work Sharks on Sunday only, she says. She has a regular job, but works FKK for pocket money, and potentially horny. LOL. It is likely she does some Escort too. Kelly also used to work rather part time.
Most part timers at Sharks are likely to take private customers as Escort style. Earnings are improved a lot by including a busy FKK component.
But Isabella is back, good reason to return to enjoy with my soon for 3 years GF, since our first room at Sharks on February 2014 when she was with Laura / Livia. Isabella may be the only girl at Globe who doesn't need to make up, just washing, to succeed to inspection, what I call a natural beauty, with no tattoo, and she really improved her level.I have always wondered why Isabella was so pathetic in the room when I tried her at Sharks. Perhaps had some reason not to like me, but very few girls ever have been so poor. I cancelled session after about 15 minutes. She clearly did not want me as a customer, yet most others did. Chemistry was obviously shit. I think I was not the only one reporting pathetic performance though. She did not seem to get many regular customers at that time, and seemed very disinterested. Laura / Livia was a little less pathetic but was clearly dick scared when tried her. She wanted to do BBBJ only. LOL.
Sir Siri meant 280 CHF since that would be the going rate for 1 hour of srtvice at Globe club in Zurich. There is close to parity CHF to EUR but EUR still has a premium versus CHF so not quite 1;1 yet.
You also have to forgive Sir Siri sometimss for his lax writing style.As I wrote many times, I pay Globe entry 95 with credit card, charged 10%, so 105 CHF, and I pay cash girls in €, I know my 2 girls from Germany, CHF is 0. 92 € , but money change is charged. Can give USD to desk and they will give CHF to your darling, desk do for 1/1. A day at Globe is between 500 when only one work and 1000 € when both work. I keep my few CHF given back from lockers for white chocolate to get sugar to survive in igloo when minus 0 now in Switzerland Winter nights. But cold is good for heath and to get so firm body.
About business, Aurelia who was and would still be one of the prettiest at Sharks, seems to prefer her business at Globe now, she is on new tour right now, I think third or fourth, after a short try at Bumsalp. Kate made at least 5 tours at Globe, since she was at Sharks on last April. Isabella who worked at Oase on Summer 2013 when Oase was on top, Sharks on beginning of 2014 with her "sister" Laura / Livia, World for amazing 11th birthday on June 2014 , when casting was on top with her, Anna. Pol and her friend blond Lisa. De who both came from Bumsalp, Emmanuela, Madi, Nea, seems also happy to make her business at Globe now, since beginning of the year and each time she leaves home, before starting to work, send me message saying how she loves me and she missed me at home, lovely beauty. Now Kate returned at home, so no more: I don t like You go with Isabella, who would be my Christmas present a few days before, because real worth present would be to fly on white paradise, that s always a dream.
I just wait for Anja to chat with her about all what was written about her at Sharks, about businessmen. I'm sure she missed her mousy.
Some Sharks girls like Megan, Stefi, Dina, Agnes could compete for beauty at Globe where pretty girls with good behavior and level, seem happy to make good business, the busiest around 2000 on week end days.
I have to change my money business, to buy an hotel in Zurich, so at least I will get a warm room for my painful bones and Globe will be my restaurant. Unfortunately no more warm swimming pool there, it was the best one I knew.
We all understand your approach. You are not alone Sir Siri. There are always guys on this forum asking about cheapest hotels, cheapest ways to get to the clubs or cheap entry fees for clubs.
Sleeping in your igloo car is one way to save money. Your choice. I am not sure I want to know where you go to take a dump though when stayinv in your car.
As you say, you find ways to save money in one place to be able to spend the money saved elsewhere. It is about making choices. Such as your choice about sleeping in your car and being able to choose to pay 280 CHF a hour at Globe or 80 euros a hour at Acapulco. It is a choice you have made. Similarly, as you say with the money saved by sleeping in your car you can now make Globe your currently most frequented club. Choices and opportunity.
The same way you choose to pay in euro at Globe. This is the same for many eurozone visitors who go to the Swiss clubs. It saves needing to exchange their euros into Swiss Francs. Sometimes I do the same in my visits to Switzerland especially on short visits to pay in euro on a one for one basis. The girls in some clubs also work on the same basis when paying the club to work but of course CHF is worth a discount on the euro so will tend to pay in Swiss Francs whenever possible.Same than for Anja who is an easy going girl, even for a guy like me, after she was bullshit by your German friend about me before we met, and she asked me to repeat at the end of the room. She also went with Turkish for fast 50 € and she was used to suck and fuck sex. You don't understand more about a Swiss white chocolate for 3 CHF guy who could buy a Ferrari with money spent in brothels, when you should know hotels are really cheap rates in Germany. But when you leave your girls at 4 or 5 am, why missing sunrise? To save 40 € ? To pay entry and girls at Globe? I couldn't even with money saved.
PussyLiccker
12-08-16, 10:31
Know we have talked about tourists ruining the service but we forgot to mention the turkish guys. there are alot of them at night and most of these prolly only wants bbbj and fuckSome girls probably prefer Turkish customers for leaving right after the business is completo, and probably less requirements(less GFE looking types). Likely the ones that isn't up for GFE sessions. Some straight up do not, and partial of them likely out of racial or how their treated by the wrong ones.
Depends on what type of Turkish clients and what type of service that the girl is ok with. Likely younger types clients would go more for suck and fuck, and older for more GFE experience. Like Samya vs Mondial. Mondial has more younger populus. About hard fikkin. At GT the clientel types are on avg older than YY, and complaint I got from a girl is that she switched to GT due to young types working her pussy too hard to be cashed quicker for more busiess for the long run. Chances are higher that younger guys work their pussy hard. So yeah, depends on the girl. Some may prefer suck and fuck, ok with the hard pounding vs kissing. Some are more open to GFE type experiences and kisses readily more, and hard fuckin is less their thing.
ExpatLover
12-08-16, 14:40
I am trying to get my head around this. Your proposition is that nice girls will earn more working in a FKK than if they worked as an escort. The earnings of an escort is 1000 and can be up to 4000 euros you provide as a supporting statement. Given the premise of the initial statement then a FKK girls will earn more than 1000 a week and potentially way more 4000 a week giving better earnings than an escort would earn.
The rationale if I may provide one is the escort will work infrequently but the FKK girl will work regularly and be able to have access to a pool of mongers in a club. So the earning potential of a FKK girl who is nice will invariably be better than an escort in general.Sorry a nice girl in a FKK will earn 1000 euros a day, so around 15000 to 20000 euros a month for the best one. As an escort it is really an exception to earn the same amount in Germany, I don't know in the other countries. All the German escort I know told me in average they earn 1000 euros per week and 10000 a month is really exceptional. Most of the German escort have a another job, this is mostly required by the agencies.
ExpatLover
12-08-16, 14:47
What he is not taking into account is many escort girls choose to earn less, even if money is there, because they only choose to go with certain clients. The job can be much less stressful because they are not hunting.
They may actually earn more in the long run because they are able to keep their looks up.Sorry if you are escort in a German agency you can t choose your customer, most of them are around 55 to 65 years old, of course when you start the date you can refuse to go further with the customer, but this will work may be one time, 2 times but after the agency will blacklisted you. The escorts I know are struggling to get more dates and not the contrary, you need also to know that the German guys are often complaining about the girls and the agency can blocked the girls for 1 month.
Now I am speaking about the top top escort girls who can have 3 or 4 dates per day but a serious agency will not give so many dates to a girl knowing that she will not be fresh enough for the customers.
Hi guys,
I've been to sharks many times and love the place.
Big fan of Mila.
Does anyone have an idea how line up will look the week before Christmas? When do most of the girls leave?
Thanks!
Hessen Bub
12-08-16, 18:30
Sorry a nice girl in a FKK will earn 1000 euros a day, so around 15000 to 20000 euros a month for the best one. As an escort it is really an exception to earn the same amount in Germany, I don't know in the other countries. All the German escort I know told me in average they earn 1000 euros per week and 10000 a month is really exceptional. Most of the German escort have a another job, this is mostly required by the agencies.There's not many girls making 1. 000 every day they work. That's maybe the top 5% at the club.
HB.
Member #4581
12-08-16, 21:00
Sorry a nice girl in a FKK will earn 1000 euros a day, so around 15000 to 20000 euros a month for the best one. As an escort it is really an exception to earn the same amount in Germany, I don't know in the other countries. All the German escort I know told me in average they earn 1000 euros per week and 10000 a month is really exceptional. Most of the German escort have a another job, this is mostly required by the agencies.I don't understand where you guys get this 1,000 a day number. That happens to may be the best girls, and not every day. To get to such number, you have to believe that they do 10 hours a day of sessions, or have a large percent of their customers take all sorts of extras and average much more than 100 an hour. I am sure some customers do take extras, but I don't think that happens with most, or even a majority of customers. And most certainly, you can't take a thousand a day and multiply by 15 or 20 to derive their monthly income. Even the busiest girls are not making that thousand per day on weekdays, especially early week days.
I see girls are quite desperate and somewhat despondent. Many make a pittance on an hourly basis, after covering their entry fee. They hang around the club for 10 to 12 hours, to make a couple of hundred on most days, net of fee, in my view. I am talking about the average club girl, not the very busy ones.
Perhaps this amount of income like a couple of hundred a day makes sense for a Romanian girl where average incomes are much less for a girl of low skills and education in that nation. But if 15,000 to 20,000 is the sort of income a regular girl can expect, you would have seen a bunch of German girls, not to mention Spanish, Italian and other girls, jumping into these clubs. As it is, most girls are from severely underdeveloped Romania or Bulgaria, and that tells you pretty much everything.
Sorry a nice girl in a FKK will earn 1000 euros a day, so around 15000 to 20000 euros a month for the best one.Which girl can make this at often empty World? About 10 hours in room? Maybe Raïssa on some good days.
Even at Sharks, I don't think more than 5 girls can make 20.000 a month at the moment.
Easier at Globe with rate more expensive than Russian beauties escorts in Paris.
Member #4585
12-08-16, 22:42
your German friendSeriously, I will ask the question again, which you do not seem to answer, but seem to delight in dangling the comment like cheese on a mouse trap, the question is who is this German friend that you keep mentioning?
To ask again, to be sure, you keep mentioning a German friend, can you explain who is this German person?
Seriously, I will ask the question again, which you do not seem to answer, but seem to delight in dangling the comment like cheese on a mouse trap, the question is who is this German friend that you keep mentioning?
To ask again, to be sure, you keep mentioning a German friend, can you explain who is this German person?Just remember messages about 5 November, for sure with his behavior, he will never be mine, I have other behavior German friends.
There's not many girls making 1. 000 every day they work. That's maybe the top 5% at the club.Even this seems to be too positive. I doubt that even ONE girl makes EVERY working day 1 k. Maybe the top 5% at the Hessen clubs make 1 k every second or third day. Average daily income for a (Hessen) FKK club girl after entrance, tax and dorm maybe around 300 euro, maybe even lower.
ExpatLover
12-09-16, 00:14
Even this seems to be too positive. I doubt that even ONE girl makes EVERY working day 1 k. Maybe the top 5% at the Hessen clubs make 1 k every second or third day. Average daily income for a (Hessen) FKK club girl after entrance, tax and dorm maybe around 300 euro, maybe even lower.Yes I am speaking about the top one but 300 euros is too low, most of them we get 500 to 600 euros a day, don t forget the Asian customers the regular the guy like me who a not paying 50 euros.
I just wait for Anja to chat with her about all what was written about her at Sharks, about businessmen. I'm sure she missed her mousy.Please deliver a Hello, from me. I will miss her pussycat. Even I am hunting another one now, her fault.
Member #4585
12-09-16, 05:33
Just remember messages about 5 November.Sir Siri,
As always you seem to be writing some sort of blog or code that only you know the characters. You write for yourself and not for others then expect people to understand your context. At times I am unsure you even understand grammar and puntuaction (sp?
For the sake of my sanity, since you keep linking me to a German friend I do not even know or dare say I have even met anf then you write about it on this forum. So, please explain this imaginary German friend that you have?
Now you bring up something about 5 November? What is that?
Is this a crytic reference to the movie V for Vendetta. Where the quote is, " Remember, Remember, the fifth of November, the gunpowder treason and plot. ".
Please deliver a Hello, from me. I will miss her pussycat. Even I am hunting another one now, her fault.I would be happy for her she gets good business at Globe because Anja was a nice challenge, friendly surprise, even You saw how I was not at all in hurry to repeat, I also didn't need to run after my regular, sometimes saying: Next time. I hunt only on first time, then I can hunt for hours, but after, I like girls to return to me, meaning for me they want to repeat, which is important for me to feel better about paid sex, not to feel I force them because they have no business, I don't run after first room. The best is when a busy girl gives You free time, even better in the room, much better when she has to explain to the desk when she gives back the key, we were not in room for full time since she took the key.
Anja may have problem about inspection at Globe, her mousy will see when I will go for my GF Isabella who should be one of my Christmas present.
Have good new hunt, it s FKK life, one lost, another target is born. For my experience, before it was difficult to find a good girl, now I find many around Düsseldorf and in white chocolate for 3 or 4 CHF country. You should give a look to so slim body, green eyes Maria at LR.
If many girls could make about 20 000 a month, we should have more pretty Russian girls rather than working for Agencies, only a few and not the prettiest in FKK.
Please deliver a Hello, from me. I will miss her pussycat. Even I am hunting another one now, her fault.She is badly missed at Sharks. Hope she comes back soon.
Sir Siri,
As always you seem to be writing some sort of blog or code that only you know the characters. You write for yourself and not for others then expect people to understand your context. At times I am unsure you even understand grammar and puntuaction (sp?
For the sake of my sanity, since you keep linking me to a German friend I do not even know or dare say I have even met anf then you write about it on this forum. So, please explain this imaginary German friend that you have?
Now you bring up something about 5 November? What is that?
Is this a crytic reference to the movie V for Vendetta. Where the quote is, " Remember, Remember, the fifth of November, the gunpowder treason and plot. ".You and some others can write what you want on this forum, but you named him in your message about what happened on 5 November? Nothing really interesting, I just stayed until I decided to leave when I understood I would not find a second girl, unfortunately. Some girls also named him when they see his behavior.
Yes I am speaking about the top one but 300 euros is too low, most of them we get 500 to 600 euros a day, don t forget the Asian customers the regular the guy like me who a not paying 50 euros.That is a big over estimate in my opinion. Craiova is closer to the mark. 300 is probably not too low.
Most girls are sitting around with nothing to do for most of the day. There are not enough customers and also not enough rooms.
Anyway estimates are pretty useless. This was proven when guys estimated how many girls were in attendance, and when I listed I typically found 30 to 50% more girls than others estimated.
The way to make an intelligent estimate how many 30 min slots are done by girls, is to survey the number of rooms busy at different times throughout the day in a club with keys (not Sharks), perhaps complicated by VIPs, and also find out the total number of girls that worked, approximately. So the average number of rooms busy divided by the total girls gives what percentage of the time an average girl has a booking. Its not that high, I think. Rooms are very quiet early in the day.
If a girl can get a customer to do 2 hours or more, it makes a huge difference to her earnings. Even blonde Christina ex Oase could give a pretty good GFE with that level of incentive, when she was not so busy.
I was at Sharks on a Friday night. At any given time, a low percentage of girls were in a booking. Most girls do not do a Sylvana type of shift.
Another thing to do is estimate the average customer spend (which maybe difficult due to just a few very high spenders) and see how many customers there were compared to girls. Clearly if the customers are less than the girls, hypothetically, the girls cannot be making much.
Hessen Bub
12-09-16, 12:59
Yes I am speaking about the top one but 300 euros is too low, most of them we get 500 to 600 euros a day, don t forget the Asian customers the regular the guy like me who a not paying 50 euros.No they don't. That I know for sure. 300 minus entry, tax and sleeping is not too low, on some days even good looking girls with godo service lose money.
HB.
PussyLiccker
12-09-16, 14:02
Nobody knows the real avg. How would you estimate without enough info to go by.
There are ways for better estimates. Total number of girls attended devided by total spent by all customers should be precise.
Some clubs have sign in system with written time when girls go to rooms. That should provide enough info minus extras, tips, etc.
As for anecdote, a girl told me she made nothing on the day. Not too sure if she really made absolutely nothing. But, business seems slow for many girls there. I dunno how girls get by with such competition.
There were some really busy ones like Evita or Milana on my visits, but somebody said not busy on their visit?, so depends on if the right client is there for any of the girls. Hardly saw Evita outside the room, she was occupied by the same punter on two visits. Milana had couple regulars I've been told that did realky long rooms.
It comes down to number of girls to punters throught the day. In further spending habbits. No dependancy on scale of a club. A LR, a girl told me her friend makes 1 k on most days, and striving for that. The situation girls can face is long wait for rooms on peak times.
I recall at GT long ago when waiting for pizza(so up to that time), she complained she only made 600 Euros by then. ONLY.
How many rooms are total at Sharks? At a peak night supposedly 200+ girls, at max I ran into 4 couples waiting upstairs. A girl told me few days before that (assuming Weds), 260 girls. Not sure how true that is.
ExpatLover
12-09-16, 14:20
Nobody knows the real avg. How would you estimate without enough info to go by.
There are ways for better estimates. Total number of girls attended devided by total spent by all customers should be precise.
Some clubs have sign in system with written time when girls go to rooms. That should provide enough info minus extras, tips, etc.
As for anecdote, a girl told me she made nothing on the day. Not too sure if she really made absolutely nothing. But, business seems slow for many girls there. I dunno how girls get by with such competition.
There were some really busy ones like Evita or Milana on my visits, but somebody said not busy on their visit?, so depends on if the right client is there for any of the girls. Hardly saw Evita outside the room, she was occupied by the same punter on two visits. Milana had couple regulars I've been told that did really long rooms..Why are you making the things so complex, if you are a long time FKK monger I think you have a lot of girlfriends in each club so just listen to them and try to conclude for me the best earner is about 3000 euros a day and the lowest are not covering the cost of the entree fee and taxes, but most of the girls are earning around 300 to 600 euros a day, and the top performer today 2000 euros.
She is badly missed at Sharks. Hope she comes back soon.If Anja really goes to work at Globe, You can have her for 95 for entry with good foods and 140 for the room. You can pay in CHF, €, USD, credit card.
Nobody knows the real avg. How would you estimate without enough info to go by.
There are ways for better estimates. Total number of girls attended devided by total spent by all customers should be precise.
Some clubs have sign in system with written time when girls go to rooms. That should provide enough info minus extras, tips, etc.
As for anecdote, a girl told me she made nothing on the day. Not too sure if she really made absolutely nothing. But, business seems slow for many girls there. I dunno how girls get by with such competition.
There were some really busy ones like Evita or Milana on my visits, but somebody said not busy on their visit?, so depends on if the right client is there for any of the girls. Hardly saw Evita outside the room, she was occupied by the same punter on two visits. Milana had couple regulars I've been told that did realky long rooms..About 40 rooms, so about 4000 € business per hour. If really 200 girls, 20 € per hour for average.
Fortunately for them, some girls are a bit busy.
PussyLiccker
12-09-16, 19:25
That's a good point. Leaving out extras (since we can't take account of this), maximum avg would be 40 Rooms * 17 hrs total * 100 Euros.
Divide 200 from that(if so happen there were that many), and you get, 340. Ok, so the avg got to be below that much depending on the day, how busy the place is. That's still excludes extras, not taking account of unoccupied rooms at certain times.
If there were half of that many girls, 680?
If anybody can estimate when rooms are fully occupied and partially(you can shave off some hrs), that would get a stronger figure minus extras.
Anyway, this is rough estimates. Also avg isn't a good indicator. Distribution will provide the insight. Percentages, etc.. Median, whatever. To be precise...
Probably many girls do 15 minute rooms for 50. Or 45 minutes per 100. Guys tend to voluntarily leave after they cum. If so, a room could generate 150 EUR per hour.
Small percentage of sessions are threesomes. Small percentage are kino sessions. Extras etc.
PussyLiccker
12-09-16, 19:46
Yeah, to be really precise there are many things to consider. Rooms can generate more Euros per HR.
Why are you making the things so complex, if you are a long time FKK monger I think you have a lot of girlfriends in each club so just listen to them and try to conclude for me the best earner is about 3000 euros a day and the lowest are not covering the cost of the entree fee and taxes, but most of the girls are earning around 300 to 600 euros a day, and the top performer today 2000 euros.These days in Sharks, it is extremely rare for even a super stunner to earn 3000 euros a day, the chance could be once a year!
Per my recent visit of Sharks (November 12), I noticed that several well-known hot girls left club before 1 am. There were at most 12 hours for them staying in club. The pure chargeable time would be 8 hours after deducting overhead time. So the collection money would only be 800 euros without extra for each of these girl, whom were supposed to be very busy.
Here I'd like to give an example to explain the overhead time is actually larger for even a hot girl. I went to room with one such hot girl. I approached to her when she was just available after refresh. In about 10 minutes she finished smoking, we went upstairs around 8 pm. There are 6-7 couples before us. At 8:30 pm we got room. In order to compensate and please her, I extended the secession to 1.5 hours. We finished around 10 pm, she then went back to refresh. I saw her came out around 10:20 pm, and almost immediately an Asian guy came to meet her. They went upstairs around 10:30 pm and started the cycle. I happened to notice that the girl left around 12 am.
So from 7:50 pm to 12 am, the beautiful girl seemed to be with clients all the time, but she only earned 250 euros (apparently the Asian gave her one hour session) in about 4 hours quality time. She started to work around noon as she told me and got four rooms before we met. So I concluded that she earned about 650 - 900 euros in 6 sessions that day. It was Saturday and she stayed in club for about 12 hours.
Hessen Bub
12-09-16, 22:26
Probably many girls do 15 minute rooms for 50. Or 45 minutes per 100. Guys tend to voluntarily leave after they cum. If so, a room could generate 150 EUR per hour.
Doesn't really matter for calculating girl's income as they are not constantly booked during a 12 h shift. Number of rooms is what matters. If a 60 min session lasts only 45 or 55 min doesn't matter.
HB.
Hessen Bub
12-09-16, 22:27
Why are you making the things so complex, if you are a long time FKK monger I think you have a lot of girlfriends in each club so just listen to them and try to conclude for me the best earner is about 3000 euros a day and the lowest are not covering the cost of the entree fee and taxes, but most of the girls are earning around 300 to 600 euros a day, and the top performer today 2000 euros.You're numbers are way off.
HB.
UShobbyist
12-09-16, 22:52
If Anja really goes to work at Globe, You can have her for 95 for entry with good foods and 140 for the room. You can pay in CHF, , USD, credit card.Can you pay the 95 entry in EUR or USD?
Can you pay the 95 entry in EUR or USD?I always pay entry with credit card charged 10% , so I don't know. I know for History Basel Liestal where you can pay entry 65 in €, but no foods. Excellent brunch on Sunday at Globe.
You can pay girls in € or USD.
Hessen Bub
12-10-16, 00:19
Can you pay the 95 entry in EUR or USD?They accept EUR. Don't know about USD.
HB.
Member #4581
12-10-16, 00:32
Doesn't really matter for calculating girl's income as they are not constantly booked during a 12 h shift. Number of rooms is what matters. If a 60 min session lasts only 45 or 55 min doesn't matter.
HB.Correct.
Furthermore, the calculation that a girl makes 150 in an hour because guys finish quickly and leave voluntarily before time is up. These type of calculations ignore the significant down time girls have between sessions. I think this is the reason why girls dislike short 30 min sessions. The walk up and down, fetching new bedsheets before session can begin, and then afterwards getting paid, washing and doing makeup touch, and coming back to hunt for the next customer. All of these add up. Can easily take up 15+ min for every 30 min session.
I ask again. The 1000 x 15 to 20 equals 15,000 to 20,000 euro per month. If you seriously believe such numbers, this profession would be attracting a lot more girls from Western Europe and even from places like Hungary, Poland, etc. As it is, other than girls from dirt poor areas of Romania and Bulgaria, not many are finding these levels of income attractive. The average per capita income in Germany is no more than 4 K to 4.5 K per month and that is for all Germans; and 15,000 would put a worker in the very top echelons of income in Germany.
ExpatLover
12-10-16, 03:22
These days in Sharks, it is extremely rare for even a super stunner to earn 3000 euros a day, the chance could be once a year!
Per my recent visit of Sharks (November 12), I noticed that several well-known hot girls left club before 1 am. There were at most 12 hours for them staying in club. The pure chargeable time would be 8 hours after deducting overhead time. So the collection money would only be 800 euros without extra for each of these girl, whom were supposed to be very busy.
Here I'd like to give an example to explain the overhead time is actually larger for even a hot girl. I went to room with one such hot girl. I approached to her when she was just available after refresh. In about 10 minutes she finished smoking, we went upstairs around 8 pm. There are 6-7 couples before us. At 8:30 pm we got room. In order to compensate and please her, I extended the secession to 1.5 hours. We finished around 10 pm, she then went back to refresh. I saw her came out around 10:20 pm, and almost immediately an Asian guy came to meet her. They went upstairs around 10:30 pm and started the cycle. I happened to notice that the girl left around 12 am.
So from 7:50 pm to 12 am, the beautiful girl seemed to be with clients all the time, but she only earned 250 euros (apparently the Asian gave her one hour session) in about 4 hours quality time. She started to work around noon as she told me and got four rooms before we met. So I concluded that she earned about 650 - 900 euros in 6 sessions that day. It was Saturday and she stayed in club for about 12 hours.In conclusion your figures are more or less the same than my figures, 6 sessions 900 euros, some girls do more sessions than that, and the 2000 or 3000 euros per day is really for the top top girls and during fair time in Frankfurt, we should not forget that many foreigners are not paying 50 euros for 30 minutes.
Correct.
Furthermore, the calculation that a girl makes 150 in an hour because guys finish quickly and leave voluntarily before time is up. These type of calculations ignore the significant down time girls have between sessions. I think this is the reason why girls dislike short 30 min sessions. The walk up and down, fetching new bedsheets before session can begin, and then afterwards getting paid, washing and doing makeup touch, and coming back to hunt for the next customer. All of these add up. Can easily take up 15+ min for every 30 min session.
I ask again. The 1000 x 15 to 20 equals 15,000 to 20,000 euro per month. If you seriously believe such numbers, this profession would be attracting a lot more girls from Western Europe and even from places like Hungary, Poland, etc. As it is, other than girls from dirt poor areas of Romania and Bulgaria, not many are finding these levels of income attractive. The average per capita income in Germany is no more than 4 K to 4.5 K per month and that is for all Germans; and 15,000 would put a worker in the very top echelons of income in Germany.Many 30 mn guys are bang bang fucking, like Turkish, sometimes lasting only 15/20 mn. Some kind of clients are only hugging and chatting for hours, not even kissing and no fucking, some girls are specialists for this business. There are slow clients like me who like long foreplay, kissing, licking everywhere, tasting, drinking bitter juice, caressing, to get chicken skin, hard dark nipples and growing clit. For all this, with about only 15/20 mn fucking, so not much longer than bang bang guys, 1 hour is very short time to enjoy to play such foreplay before sex, when I really enjoy, I often stay 1 h 30, so 100/150 versus 50 for pretty same vagina work, but with more wet and opened vagina after foreplay and probably in softly way.
I know a few girls in Germany, even at Aca where 40/30 mn, who make about 4000/5000 a week, but since beginning of 2013, I never heard a girl in Germany saying about more than 1500 on an exceptional day and it was only on 2013 and 2014. I think girls who make 800/1000 a day in Germany now, have a good business day. It means they were about 8/10 hours in room, so at least 12/14 hours staying in the club and full busy, with time between rooms, time to wait for room like at GT or LR, I like this wait with my girl, thinking about what will happen, also social time to introduce, time for breakfast and diner, time to smoke for most or to have a drink.
Of course a top class, not always for behavior on public sex, but sophisticated look, real woman for behavior and skill, ex Hessen superstar, can make about 4000/5000 from Friday to Sunday, some days can make about 2000 , being usually busy at Globe. For one, She and same for my Isabella, just walk around the pole, no need to dance like Stefie who is very good dancer and also good GFE in room.
Probably many girls do 15 minute rooms for 50. Or 45 minutes per 100. Guys tend to voluntarily leave after they cum. If so, a room could generate 150 EUR per hour.
Sounds silly. How to Distort 101. Add back minimum 15 minutes down time (for a busy girl. Not likely as low for 15 min session girls) between sessions and room waits. How many girls can average 150 Euros per hour elapsed time (not fuck time)? Virtually none, even selling lots of extras. I doubt busy Evita can manage that, unless a special customer agrees to a super high rate.
Maybe Lena ex Oase could manage 150 per hour in her heyday with continuous bookings all day from opening time and no room waits and getting ass fucked and / or CIM by many customers. An extreme case.
I have to wonder if girls exaggerate their earnings when talking to some customers, so that customer maybe persuaded into a very high price for an extended booking, more than what he should really being paying to be a fair price. Suppose a customer wants to book the girl for the whole day. The price should be little different to what she normally expects to make in a day, unless he is a fucking machine and should be charged more. So girl has an incentive to exaggerate her typical earnings, rather than have us pity her by understating her earnings. LOL.
She is badly missed at Sharks. Hope she comes back soon.She left to go to small Worms on Summer when she could go to Globe where girls had good business on last Summer, she left again now. Even she is a really friendly girl who deserves to be known, not only judged about her behavior turning around, she worth better than this, same for Ada, but Anja is really not clever to get business and even she was one of the prettiest, she was not busy even before Summer when there were not 999 girls, so she left again. She seems more used to fast sex or CIM to try to make fast 100 , or playing biting or fighting like children for longer room, than GF behavior. Ada understood faster, on first room, about GF behavior.
Wait and see for Anja, at Globe or on the moon? With her bad tattoo, not sure she gets the best advices around her and not a good point for Globe, but I will know fast, Kate returned to enjoy her so cute life at home, better than sucking dicks in public, and as soon she started, Isabella asked me when I come to kiss her everywhere, so I can manage out of jealousy now, to enjoy.
Those who really know me, would understand, please don't name her, but one of my regular is used to make 3 10/15 mn rooms with one smoking time in 1 hour. I have 1 hour rooms with her, taking all my time and no problem about hygiene with her. She is just a sex Terminator able some Saturdays to have more than 20 rooms.
In conclusion your figures are more or less the same than my figures, 6 sessions 900 euros, some girls do more sessions than that, and the 2000 or 3000 euros per day is really for the top top girls and during fair time in Frankfurt, we should not forget that many foreigners are not paying 50 euros for 30 minutes.As you are a World regular, if you knew Madi, I think most of those who knew her and even I criticized her changing behavior becoming too talkative, but I don t think we can find many classy beauties and GF behavior like her in whole Germany and I can also add at Globe, Wellcum and Andiamo. At, YY and Sixsens. She would be a top girl everywhere, even among Russian escorts in Paris. I don t believe about 200 girls at Sharks with only 40 rooms, but I can mistake, I don't get the truth, but which girls at Sharks at the moment can compete with her for beauty and GFE level? For my tastes, Megan for beauty, but I don t know any one for sensual level, maybe Agnes out of smoking.
As I met Madi a few times during 1 year, on January 2015 when Kitzbühel and Wengen, I drove to World twice after job on Wednesday evening, arriving about 10/10. 30 pm, she had only 2 rooms with me on these 2 nights, so she got 200 but had to pay entry, 90 at this time on week days. Usually, nearly every week end, I came to her on Saturday, we had 2 or 3 rooms, some Saturdays she had no other room, sometimes only 1 or 2 other rooms, most of time for fast 30 mn, when she did really worth to take time to enjoy her. That was a top class girl business at World, 110 € for her for 10 hours working or about 300/400 on Saturday after paying entry, maybe 4000/5000 per month, I was often sad for her, I advised guys to go to meet her, fortunately she lived close and didn't need taxi, but when she was asked to work 5 days a week by management, better for her to retire at 31 yo.
If girls could really make more than 1000 a day, we would have many pretty Russian girls in FKK.
Business level is on Romanian level of life, that's why 90% girls are Romanian and we are lucky to meet them.
Probably many girls do 15 minute rooms for 50. Or 45 minutes per 100. Guys tend to voluntarily leave after they cum. If so, a room could generate 150 EUR per hour.
I was commenting on the clever formula proposed by Siri: Take the total money transactions for the entire day then divide by number of girls in attendance for that day.
40 rooms * 17 hours * 100 EUR = 68000 EUR per day.
If above amount were evenly distributed among 200 girls in attendance, then the average gross earnings per girl would be 340 EUR.
My point was that a room does not always result in 100 EUR worth of transactions per hour. From 11 AM-2 PM, maybe only 2-4 couples will use that room. But from 8 PM-11 PM, you might see 8-10 couples utilize that room. Cleaning the room only takes two minutes, and it does not happen after each couple leaves. Most customers don't use the max slotted time that they paid for.
I was commenting on the clever formula proposed by Siri: Take the total money transactions for the entire day then divide by number of girls in attendance for that day.
40 rooms * 17 hours * 100 EUR = 68000 EUR per day.
If above amount were evenly distributed among 200 girls in attendance, then the average gross earnings per girl would be 340 EUR.
My point was that a room does not always result in 100 EUR worth of transactions per hour. From 11 AM-2 PM, maybe only 2-4 couples will use that room. But from 8 PM-11 PM, you might see 8-10 couples utilize that room. Cleaning the room only takes two minutes, and it does not happen after each couple leaves. Most customers don't use the max slotted time that they paid for.Your point was far too subtle for me to catch on. LOL. I did not pick up that the room itself was capable of making 150 Euros per hour (without the help of the girl). LOL Was a bit too much lateral thinking for my poor brain.
Most guys misuse the term "rooms" in posts, like a guy booked the girl for x number of "rooms" rather than quote a money figure, so it did not dawn on me you could be using it correctly.
I must admit that I may have used room for only 50 mins out of 1 hour on occasion since I have no watch and may have used 75 mins out of a 90 min slot, even more wastage, but I don't have much handle on frequency of guys only 15 mins in a room. That is a cancel type session for me that goes just 15 mins and is very uncommon. LOL We must also consider the case where the guy thought he was only 30 mins max in the room but girl insists he went 35 mins and has to pay for 60 mins, and she got a CIM bonus to boot, generating 150 Euros in only 35 mins or less of room usage. So we need to factor in extra earnings due to the scamming factor be it time scamming or unwanted services billed.
Banana Boi
12-10-16, 13:49
40 rooms * 17 hours * 100 EUR = 68000 EUR per day.
If above amount were evenly distributed among 200 girls in attendance, then the average gross earnings per girl would be 340 EUR.
My point was that a room does not always result in 100 EUR worth of transactions per hour. From 11 AM-2 PM, maybe only 2-4 couples will use that room. But from 8 PM-11 PM, you might see 8-10 couples utilize that room. Cleaning the room only takes two minutes, and it does not happen after each couple leaves. Most customers don't use the max slotted time that they paid for.An interesting analysis. I don't think girls make as much as some believe they do. In my experience, I have met quite a few girls who I spend a long time in a room with but I only pay a standard 100-200 euro. For someone who didn't know they may think that girl made 400-500 euro from me but they didn't.
An interesting analysis. I don't think girls make as much as some believe they do. In my experience, I have met quite a few girls who I spend a long time in a room with but I only pay a standard 100-200 euro. For someone who didn't know they may think that girl made 400-500 euro from me but they didn't.Yes, at GT or LR, you could have a girl for 4 hours for 225 €. At Samya, 4 hours for 300. But in Hessen, did you have attractive girls for 4 hours in room for 100 or 200?
But I really wish some girls can make enough money they need, I hope money made is only for them, not for pimp. But I also often saw really nice girls like Selena, or beauty like Stefi, waiting all day. Even fresh body and mind, smiling cute face with friendly behavior Hungarian Mersi couldn't get business at big Sharks, same for beautiful tits Anja. And Winter is coming, even with winter tires, Germans are stopped in first gear on autobahns.
Anja will return at some point. They all do.
She left to go to small Worms on Summer when she could go to Globe where girls had good business on last Summer, she left again now. Even she is a really friendly girl who deserves to be known, not only judged about her behavior turning around, she worth better than this, same for Ada, but Anja is really not clever to get business and even she was one of the prettiest, she was not busy even before Summer when there were not 999 girls, so she left again. She seems more used to fast sex or CIM to try to make fast 100 , or playing biting or fighting like children for longer room, than GF behavior. Ada understood faster, on first room, about GF behavior.
Wait and see for Anja, at Globe or on the moon? With her bad tattoo, not sure she gets the best advices around her and not a good point for Globe, but I will know fast, Kate returned to enjoy her so cute life at home, better than sucking dicks in public, and as soon she started, Isabella asked me when I come to kiss her everywhere, so I can manage out of jealousy now, to enjoy.
Yes, at GT or LR, you could have a girl for 4 hours for 225 . At Samya, 4 hours for 300......Currently, at GT or LR, the standard rate is 50 euros per 30 min in room with a girl. So for 4 hours in room should be 400 euros. Unless some girls voluntarily give you discount, it couldn't be 225 for 4 HR. At Samya four hours room would cost you 400 euro since September.
I have always wondered why Isabella was so pathetic in the room when I tried her at Sharks. Perhaps had some reason not to like me, but very few girls ever have been so poor. I cancelled session after about 15 minutes. She clearly did not want me as a customer, yet most others did. Chemistry was obviously shit. I think I was not the only one reporting pathetic performance though. She did not seem to get many regular customers at that time, and seemed very disinterested. Laura / Livia was a little less pathetic but was clearly dick scared when tried her. She wanted to do BBBJ only. LOL.We met many same girls at Oase, World, or Sharks, so it was nothing about you, but Isabella is Isabella. Now, she is more woman and understood she is lucky to work at Globe and can't behave in same way, but she refused to go with so many guys. When I first met her on February 2014 at Sharks, with Laura / Livia, they proposed me a threesome, saying they were Italian sisters. After our first room, she never proposed me again to go with her "sister" , she became my weekly regular, when I didn't repeat with Roxana, Cosmina, Dina. She gave me a great birthday. When she moved to World on end of April, many guys came to me when they saw us, to ask about her. As she was not busy, I answered I like her, but when they went to her, she refused to go with so many. I laugh when I read about Anja who went with anybody for only 50, when I asked Isabella why she refused when she said she didn't have good business, she answered: I don't like his face, or he is too old, or too fat, and she preferred to stay not making money than going to room with them. Once she said to me: stop sending me guys, I don't want you say what we do, or I don't go anymore with you. We were like dog and cat, but it was great in room. On mid June 2014, she got an Italian regular and said I exhausted her, so I stopped. On July, she disappeared and no more messages. She went to Andiamo. On beginning of July 2016, when I went to Globe for Kate, I saw a so pretty blond, but I didn't go to her because I went only for Kate. When we came back from room, I saw this beautiful blond coming straight to me smiling, but I didn't recognize her because of her new woman look. I answered I need to recover because I didn't want to go with her, she said: I know you were with the brunette, she told me about my job and my passions, same than blond Liz. De ex Artemis did on Summer 2015, but I couldn't recognize both, Liz because getting weight and Isabella because no more student look, no more glasses, a real woman look. I went to her later, Kate said on October becoming jealous, and more 2 weeks ago when she understood we keep in contact even when Isabella is off in Romania. Had more than 20 rooms, some 2 hours rooms for 560 €, with Isabella who really improved to high level and potential for GF illusion and high sporty sex. With her natural beauty, she doesn't need to make up or to shave on day, for Globe control, she will be my first Christmas present, I can't resist to her messages with plenty of little hearts. Soon 3 years.
Day3:
Rainy Afternoon in Frankfurt. Walk across the street to the train station around 2:00 PM and catch the train for Fredrichsdorf (9.50 Euros are / T) and away I go. There is a train every half hour going and coming till 1:00 AM. Arrive at 2:30 PM, show a cab driver the address written on a paper. He smiles and gives me the thumbs up. 20 Minutes later we pull up to a palace built in the middle of farmland Germany. I pay him 10 euros. He smiles and says "it's gut" with another thumbs up.
This place has the same setup as Mainhattan FKK. Towel, bathrobe, slippers, wristband and a wristkey that opens a small lobby locker and a locker in the mens room for your clothes. I arrive early Thursday afternoon and its 50 Euros for the whole shooting match. What a deal. While paying the girl at the front desk. I can see into the first room and the 6-7 girls I can already see are spectacular.
I put my cellphone and wallet in little locker. Change into my towel and slippers and head to the main room where I am immediately set upon by a 6'2" skinny German blond in a leopard dress with the nipples and crotch cut out of her dress. She is spectacular. She speaks English and gives me a tour of the facility. In the fall and winter. The common areas are basically restricted to three areas I. E. The main room with bar, porno movie area and open dance area with stripper pole in the middle. Another turn and you are in a bar area and off to the side is the dining area. It is a pity it is cold because there is an outdoor area that would be clearly fun for outdoor activities in the summer.
The price structure is essentially the same: 50 Euros for a half hour of suck and fuck with one girl. Everything else is an upgrade usually escalating in price by 50 Euros for various fetishes, activities and time.
So here is the rundown of my activities:
I take the Amazon 23 YO tall thin German Blond back for a 50 Euro warm-up. Simply because she was good looking and took the time to show me around the place. The sex is standard fare. Though her BBBJ was an 8 on my blow job scale. I cum on her tits and face because if you shoot a load in her mouth. Another 50 Euros. Not really worth it. But she's very good looking and the cum dripping off her glasses was a great visual:-the.
I hit the bar and I'm joined by 3 Israeli guys in their late 40's who are taking turns fucking this gorgeous 28 YO Romanian Blond. Every half hour one of them comes out and she drags another one back to the private room with her. They say she is excellent and likes to get fucked in the ass. One guy Avi tells me the girls here are spectacular looking but whatever I do. Not to miss FKK Sharks.
Its now 5 PM and everything stops as 30 gorgeous girls queue up for dinner. There is literally a wave of gorgeous tits and pussy lining up for dinner and dragging me and the Israeli crew with them. We sit with 4 20-22 YO Romanian girls who are simply stunning all 8's and 9's. I'm now throwing down the Jack Daniels and little head is completely taking over. Raina and Irana from Bucharest 2 gorgeous 20 YO's both blond, both natural see-cups, drag me to the private room for an hour. Its totally nuts as I get blown by one while the other is licking the others pussy. Its just body fluids everywhere. I fuck them both. And then finish the hour with them trading my cock between their mouths. With Raina finally jerking Junior off all over Irana's Face. Another great visual. I exit and pay them both 150 Euros for the hour. They are ecstatic and I get kissed all over in the lobby.
I'm beat now. About 8 PM I run into the Thai masseuse and head for one of the best massages I've ever had. It was great and I'm ready for one more.
I'm ready to head out and I see this gorgeous 19 YO Moldavian girl with perfect puffy nipple natural see-cups. She is a total 10 and if she lived in the US she'd be commanding $500+ in NYC. To make a long story short. I take her back and give her a 50 Euro fucking for a half hour. But honestly, I'm running on fumes. And I nut one drop even though I'm loaded up with Cialis. The dick is willing but I'm out of gas.
Its 10:30 PM. I'm full, I'm half drunk and I don't have a drop of jizz left in my balls.
A last note. This place is incredible. Frankly the worst looking girl here was a 7 and that was because she was 30 YO and had fake cans. I don't think I've seen so many 9's and 10's in one spot in my life. Until.
I cum on her tits and face because if you shoot a load in her mouth. Another 50 Euros. Not really worth it. But she's very good looking and the cum dripping off her glasses was a great visual:-the.
And then finish the hour with them trading my cock between their mouths. With Raina finally jerking Junior off all over Irana's Face. Another great visual. I exit and pay them both 150 Euros for the hour. They are ecstatic and I get kissed all over in the lobby.
Either you had a lot of luck with your girls or the girls gave you happy hour prices. Cum on body usually also cost extra and cum on face always cost same additional 50 euro like CIM so you saved here 50 euro.
And your one hour threesome session with lesbian show and one COF cost usually in total 350 euro.
Day3:
Rainy Afternoon in Frankfurt. Walk across the street to the train station around 2:00 PM and catch the train for Fredrichsdorf (9.50 Euros are / T) and away I go. There is a train every half hour going and coming till 1:00 AM. Arrive at 2:30 PM, show a cab driver the address written on a paper. He smiles and gives me the thumbs up. 20 Minutes later we pull up to a palace built in the middle of farmland Germany. I pay him 10 euros. He smiles and says "it's gut" with another thumbs up.
This place has the same setup as Mainhattan FKK. Towel, bathrobe, slippers, wristband and a wristkey that opens a small lobby locker and a locker in the mens room for your clothes. I arrive early Thursday afternoon and its 50 Euros for the whole shooting match. What a deal. While paying the girl at the front desk. I can see into the first room and the 6-7 girls I can already see are spectacular.
I put my cellphone and wallet in little locker. Change into my towel and slippers and head to the main room where I am immediately set upon by a 6'2" skinny German blond in a leopard dress with the nipples and crotch cut out of her dress. She is spectacular..Oase visit, not at Sharks.
I second the thought given here lately that the Sharks lineup has fallen. I am not impressed. Yes, Mandy is around, Erica is here. Senna etc, optic Estelle. But lots of girls are missing. More than I can count. And replacements are hardly more than mediocre. Oase has a better lineup right now.
Hessen Bub
12-11-16, 09:53
Either you had a lot of luck with your girls or the girls gave you happy hour prices. Cum on body usually also cost extra and cum on face always cost same additional 50 euro like CIM so you saved here 50 euro.He paid 50€ extra for COF. He just said that the 50€ for CIM aren't worth it for him.
HB.
I second the thought given here lately that the Sharks lineup has fallen. I am not impressed. Yes, Mandy is around, Erica is here. Senna etc, optic Estelle. But lots of girls are missing. More than I can count. And replacements are hardly more than mediocre. Oase has a better lineup right now.If you mean blond Erika with tattoos, I''m happy for her, she should become a superstar at Sharks with her high level for services. You should be happy with Mandy at least.
Management want to make money with girls entry, they are not clever enough to understand GND quantity kill quality for regular clients, they will see what will become future, when Oase is trying to improve after falling.
Carpe Viam
12-11-16, 14:55
The new name of Anja is Tina.
She'll remain in Zurich at least this year.
Next year? Who knows?
Anja will return at some point. They all do.
I second the thought given here lately that the Sharks lineup has fallen. I am not impressed. Yes, Mandy is around, Erica is here. Senna etc, optic Estelle. But lots of girls are missing. More than I can count. And replacements are hardly more than mediocre. Oase has a better lineup right now.Super skinny Erica with tats below her ass? Guess its normal gals go back home to celebrate Christmas also bc people have to do Christmas shopping so no time nor money to hunt for angels.
Management want to make money with girls entry, they are not clever enough to understand GND quantity kill quality for regular clients, they will see what will become future, when Oase is trying to improve after falling.Well said Sir Sirioja. I didn't see the promised 200 girls but I was not impressed with the quality. Guess sooner or later the bubble's going to burst.
At Sharks today also. Really having a hard time getting a rise here. There is one cute hungarian I haven't talked to yet though. But aside from that all the new ones I could have given an easy pass. Really wonder what's going on. Maybe it is just December being a terrible month. Then again, Oase seems to have held on to their top girls somehow.
At Sharks today also. Really having a hard time getting a rise here. There is one cute hungarian I haven't talked to yet though. But aside from that all the new ones I could have given an easy pass. Really wonder what's going on. Maybe it is just December being a terrible month. Then again, Oase seems to have held on to their top girls somehow.Line up is pathetic at the moment. Where have all the Stunners gone?
UShobbyist
12-11-16, 22:40
Its now 5 PM and everything stops as 30 gorgeous girls queue up for dinner. There is literally a wave of gorgeous tits and pussy lining up for dinner and dragging me and the Israeli crew with them.
A last note. This place is incredible. Frankly the worst looking girl here was a 7 and that was because she was 30 YO and had fake cans. I don't think I've seen so many 9's and 10's in one spot in my life. Until.You saw completely naked girls without towels lining up for dinner in the dinning room of FKK Oase. I have to ask other FKK Oase regulars to verify what you saw. LOL. AFAIK, there are quite a few Oase girls way below 7 in face and body department.
PussyLiccker
12-11-16, 23:33
The new name of Anja is Tina.
She'll remain in Zurich at least this year.
Next year? Who knows?Two girls I don't think I have witnessed are likely Karin and Anja. People have said Karin is likely more if my type, but my visits always seem to have missed her. With the hype with the girl's optiks, I like to see what the hubbub is about.
Then again, Anja may hve been present on my visits. There has been times a buddy told me I talked to a specific girl that has some hype to find out I talked to her. LOL.
For service, Mandy was great. Optically not so much. GND. Sandra is more of my type optically. She looked Ro to me. Doesn't she have Italian roots?
Milana had the stature I usually go for. Facially wasn't an easy pick, but also was pretty occupied. Probably wouldn't have noticed if wasn't pointed out. Could have been a higher option than others I've gone with, would have been easier if she was more free. Initial impression is facially she looks agressive, but given her service rep, superfical assumptions on my part.
Somebody pointed out Moira to know who she was and probably didn't notice her.
Knowing frequent attenders helps in being aware of some girls you'd otherwise not meet.
Can you pay the 95 entry in EUR or USD?Globe entry is 100 € in cash. Can also pay girls in €. History Basel Liestal entry is 65 and 99/30 mn, 149 for 45 mn.
No Anja seen. Ex Jessika silicon is Micky, can check with her belly piercing. Since 2014, she knows me, really friendly girl.
PussyLiccker
12-12-16, 01:42
Super skinny Erica with tats below her ass? Guess its normal gals go back home to celebrate Christmas also bc people have to do Christmas shopping so no time nor money to hunt for angels.He probably means this Erica / Erika blond Ro who gives fantastic service. Several Ericas probably has worked at Sharks. Not skinny. This one is tall, pretty, blue eyed blond, and can be very GFE. She may have done a short stint at Sharks and then moved on to Oceans, LR/GT.
It is interesting to see how some girls build reputation in the club. First time and saw Erica (tall slim blond with large round ear rings and v-shaped tattoo over the neck and at another tattoo on the waist).
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Well actually I ment the heart tatoo below buttcheeks Erica Exodus was talking about. But as I rescanned the place today I noticed I was misstaking her for some other girl. And the young cute new 'hungarian' was romanian apparently. Brown hair. Named Melek. Ditched me for some asian dude. I guess as some asian hunters disappears, new ones grow up... Might have ended up on my blacklist for doing that. Not sure yet. Have to consult the cards.
Other girls present this week was Ada with reduced group, Julia, Patricia, Megan, Janine... Marlyn was there on wednesday. a certain blonde that worked at Oceans (Celina as Oceans) for 2 months were back at Sharks. Alexa from Oase was there. Liz was there. A new Raluca was there. Lots of random 5-7s... forgot most names...
You saw completely naked girls without towels lining up for dinner in the dinning room of FKK Oase. I have to ask other FKK Oase regulars to verify what you saw. LOL. AFAIK, there are quite a few Oase girls way below 7 in face and body department.This seems to be the Sharks Thread. I guess your questions did not need answering.
PussyLiccker
12-12-16, 06:07
And the young cute new 'hungarian' was romanian apparently. Brown hair. Named Melek. Ditched me for some asian dude. I guess as some asian hunters disappears, new ones grow up... Another Asian killer? I haven't seen so many Asians to be killed on my visits there. Hmmm. Not as much as Oase. Evita got a good one(finally saw them come out of the room after hrs and hrs). LOL.
Tatiana isn't your type?
Another Asian killer? I haven't seen so many Asians to be killed on my visits there. Hmmm. Not as much as Oase. Asian targets seemed scarce, and Evita got a good one(finally saw them come out of the room after hrs and hrs). LOL.
Tatiana isn't your type?Don't know tatiana at sharks. Might have heard, but name didn't stick.
PussyLiccker
12-12-16, 06:14
Don't know tatiana at sharks. Might have heard, but name didn't stick.Sonia, ex-Oase. Would have thought she'd be your type.
Another Asian killer? I haven't seen so many Asians to be killed on my visits there. Hmmm. Not as much as Oase. Evita got a good one(finally saw them come out of the room after hrs and hrs). LOL.
Tatiana isn't your type?A few there and I sometimes point them out to girls bothering me so they can hunt them instead, LOL.
Evita going to suck that one dry 4 sure. She's nice enough to let her buddy Cosmina earn some money as well. Poor dude must be rly emotionally invested as he only gets fucking 2 girls while spending big bucks.
Worst part Evita isn't even that good looking anymore.
Sonia, ex-Oase. Would have thought she'd be your type.Don't know Sonia from Oase either. But I was terrible at scanning Sharks for who's who this trip. Too many new ones. Or girls I've seen before that just arent my spec. Though there was this cute short ex Artemis girl that I forgot the name of also.
Agreed with Exodus. I have found all the previous asian hunters at Sharks to be overrated and low on looks for my taste (evita, ariana, even cosmina wasnt that hot). But it might start bothering me a bit if a hot one gets into that thing now as some are gone...
PussyLiccker
12-12-16, 06:31
Well, Evita isn't as slim as she were in the past. She was slimmer during early mid this year from what I recall. Put on some kilos since then?
I think her look facially is a draw for a lot of Asians with the feminine slim (less now) figure. Her charm, personality as well. Asians probably go for cute types, and less aggressive type personalities. I can see Cosmina being popular with Asians as well.
Don't know Sonia from Oase either. But I was terrible at scanning Sharks for who's who this trip. Too many new ones. Or girls I've seen before that just arent my spec. Though there was this cute short ex Artemis girl that I forgot the name of also.
Agreed with Exodus. I have found all the previous asian hunters at Sharks to be overrated and low on looks for my taste (evita, ariana, even cosmina wasnt that hot). But it might start bothering me a bit if a hot one gets into that thing now as some are gone...The ex artemis girl used to a shark. Her friend at Sharks is pretty but prolly also a shark, LOL.
Well, Evita isn't as slim as she were in the past. She was slimmer during early mid this year from what I recall. Put on some kilos since then?
I think her look facially is a draw for a lot of Asians with the feminine slim (less now) figure. Her charm, personality as well.She isn't as slim but for me is about her face. Guess her wider face put me off. Agree she got a good personality but Adele (oase) is on another league, hehe.
Cosmina with ponytails was very popular with some japs as i recall
but Adele (oase) is on another league, hehe.Guessing you mean tall 2 meter Adele (oase)? Didn't know you also were into giraffs. This forum is too divided.
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