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Ortos
09-26-18, 16:57
For me Germany is a great country to relax (museums, vibrancy in Berlin, Riemenschneider, no Brexit) despite the boring beer. Oh. And FKK. Come on Nick. Cheers for Germany. :) Just not for Sharks from me

Hey, you forgot to mention the great local German food: I absolutely fell in love with Doner Kebab, a typical German dish, which you can find being made and sold on the corners of most German cities, right?

Optimist
09-26-18, 17:42
Hey, you forgot to mention the great local German food: I absolutely fell in love with Doner Kebab, a typical German dish, which you can find being made and sold on the corners of most German cities, right?LOL.

Asia Imbiss: everything I want.

Kosher Kowboy
09-26-18, 18:15
I absolutely fell in love with Doner Kebab, a typical German dish, which you can find being made and sold on the corners of most German cities, right?I second that! I eat them every night. Big fan of Mamaris in the RLD (being remodeled now) and Nazar right by the train station. I asked the guy how much one of those giant meats cost they stick on the skewers but he didn't know. I am guessing from some of the recent posts on this thread about as much as North American tourists pay for an hour in Sharks!! Ok, maybe a little more, we aren't that bad! :D

He did say they weighed 60 Kilos.

Der Auslander
09-26-18, 18:52
I would never recommend as we all look for something different. I just hated the lack of sophistication of the Sharks girls when it came to dealing with clients and money. I know not all Sharks girls were like this but I see no reason why I should have to put up with the crude "suck and fuck for 50" attitude: I go to clubs to relax not do business deals with scamming girls. I am happy if other guys like Sharks. I don't know if you are missing something: only you know what is good for you. If you have been only to Oase, Palace, and Sharks, you might find something different in other clubs.

My strategy is to find a club or two where I feel at home, can easily make myself known to all the girls as a regular visitor. I require enjoyment by the girl of DATY, and passionnate ((or at least pretend passionate) DFK as part of a half hour session. I then tend to do much longer sessions and repeats.

This year World, Freude 39, have been two clubs where I was happy with service levels. Freude and other red carpet clubs lose something on the optics, but there are usually a couple of beautiful girls. I am very restrictive on looks, preferring girls size 32 (that is ultra slim) and with beautiful faces. In these clubs I felt many girls respected the customers and wanted to give good service to catch more money. I guess I now go to clubs with a primarily German clientele.

Hope that answers your question to me.I visited Sharks on the second day it was open and have been visiting on and off down through the years. Over this time I have watched the club steadily grow and increase its business. But yes I have to agree that Palace, Oase and Sharks are now best left for those who cannot convince themselves to travel very far from the Frankfurt area or for occasional tourists who are content to pay double or treble the norm for sometimes at best very average service.

Kosher Kowboy
09-26-18, 19:48
My strategy is to find a club or two where I feel at home, can easily make myself known to all the girls as a regular visitor. I require enjoyment by the girl of DATY, and passionnate ((or at least pretend passionate) DFK as part of a half hour session. I then tend to do much longer sessions and repeats. Although I do not look for passion and happily relinquish and waive all rights to DFK in any session regardless of length I do employ the exact same strategy as you do with finding a home or two. Every trip I make I have repeats and there are new girls as well, never an issue with diversity and as to the clubs I really don't have an urge to build up a resume and do not give a flying fuck about the food, the hot tubs, the steam room etc. I am there for the pussy and as you say make myself known to the girls have a good reputation among them and enjoy my time. Two places and an added visit here and there to another club does the trick for me, no pun intended. Now the food, hot tubs, steams rooms and saunas are great additions to the pussy but pussy comes first, I will go where I feel I can enjoy it the most and pay market for that particular club not more, probably not less and if a tip is warranted let the girls make a little money (never an excessive one.). Although I do see to it that some appreciative Gypsies in one club are rewarded well.


But yes I have to agree that Palace, Oase and Sharks are now best left for those who cannot convince themselves to travel very far from the Frankfurt area or for occasional tourists who are content to pay double or treble the norm for sometimes at best very average service.I have to agree with you that all these clubs in the Frankfurt area are catered to many tourists and have the highest percent of such than other clubs in other regions. IMHO I think you are being a little harsh on the tourists in general but at the same time I understand where you are coming from having been playing in Germany much longer than myself. I am not adverse to trying out some clubs out of the area but at the same time per my strategy above in reply to Optimist I am perfectly content with not just my two homes in the Frankfurt area but the other options I still have yet to explore in Hessen in addition to non FKK options. I did however book a trip to Austria in February so I am trying! :D

I think you *might* think us tourists aren't aware of the other options out there in the NRW or down in Stuttgart and other parts of Germany but many of us are and simply choose to stick to Frankfurt. I come from far away and I can not be in Germany with frequency so I feel for my maximum enjoyment sticking to one or two places and an open mind to try a club here or there ' out of my comfort zone' is a plan that works for me.

I respect all guys styles and I think there has been a lot of darts being tossed around at each other by several folks the last few pages of this thread and there is no need. We are all there for fun. Find what works for you is my though (you being all of us).

I respect the way you monger, seems you like to have a healthy mix of clubs in Frankfurt as well as some in Stuttgart or Munich etc. Mr. Ho and Chongmal seem to enjoy going to clubs all over Germany. Optimist is a Worldy guy with a GPS set on his Queen Bianca :D

Lanthano likes to try every club one time and seems to have found his comfort zone in the RLD. Some guys seem to only like to hit the RTCs. So whose style is best??

My answer is all of the above if that monger is happy. When I first started going to Germany a fellow American I have become friendly with over time once told me ' Germany has something for everybody, have to go find it for yourself'.

I think that sums it up best.

Respectfully
KK

BigBuddy69
09-26-18, 19:51
I look for the most beautiful. And sometimes I find them at Freude, sometimes on a street, sometimes in a big club. I only go where I can find a beautiful girl with top service, even if it has to be at Freude.

Yes. 50 for 30 GFE is available, even for me, but as you say we have to work to find it.Actually 40 for 30 minutes is still available in NRW, why should I pay more in Sharks?

LaBambaBoy
09-26-18, 21:03
Are the outdoor facilities still open? Anyone gotten rimjobs from other girls besides Jennifer? Which CIM girls swallow? Thanks!I always wonder at the usefulness of questions this specific. I suspect most of the girls do things like that on a variable basis based on the client, their mood, rate of business that night, etc. Not sure someone can give you a name and say "Gertrude will always rim for 50 euro".

Der Auslander
09-26-18, 21:06
I have to agree with you that all these clubs in the Frankfurt area are catered to many tourists and have the highest percent of such than other clubs in other regions. IMHO I think you are being a little harsh on the tourists in general but at the same time I understand where you are coming from having been playing in Germany much longer than myself. I am not adverse to trying out some clubs out of the area but at the same time per my strategy above in reply to Optimist I am perfectly content with not just my two homes in the Frankfurt area but the other options I still have yet to explore in Hessen in addition to non FKK options. I did however book a trip to Austria in February so I am trying! :DYou (and many others) read me incorrectly. I have nothing against tourists. In very many ways, I am one myself except for the fact that due to my air miles to Germany down through the last decade (or more) and after visiting most FKK / Sauna clubs stretching from North Rhine-Westphalia to Bavaria, I know when I am getting good value and when I am being ripped off. So lets say I frequently travel to Deutschland, as I believe you may do as well. I guess what bothers me is the fact that prices are pushing upwards and the attitude of some members in this forum towards that fact. It irks me that some appear to happily hand over two or three times the normal amount of cash required for a particular hooker service. It irks me that rip-off pricing levels are reported on this board as if this is the established norm when in reality these prices are only asked of infrequent club visitors or tourists. Locals or those with stammgast (regular customer) credentials are not asked to pay these prices. In my opinion it should be the purpose of this board to advise members (whether they be regular or infrequent travelers to FKK-Land) that there is better value (and better service) to be had by avoiding places like Palace, Sharks and perhaps Oase (at least for the time being) and heading an hour up the road to Giessen or two hours up the road to Cologne or three hours up the road to Dusseldorf. The amount of money you may save will at least recompense for the extra travel cost and maybe leave a few dollars / euros more in your pocket. If the current pricing trend catches hold it will not be long until members are paying Swiss prices all over Germany and the ladies in the Frankfurt Mega-clubs will be charging Euro 100 for each and every half hour in the zimmer!

Lets keep it real and lets call out those who are taking advantage of less frequent visitors.

MaxSquatter
09-26-18, 21:12
You (and many others) read me incorrectly. I have nothing against tourists. In very many ways, I am one myself except for the fact that due to my air miles to Germany down through the last decade (or more) and after visiting most FKK / Sauna clubs stretching from North Rhine-Westphalia to Bavaria, I know when I am getting good value and when I am being ripped off. So lets say I frequently travel to Deutschland, as I believe you may do as well. I guess what bothers me is the fact that prices are pushing upwards and the attitude of some members in this forum towards that fact. It irks me that some appear to happily hand over two or three times the normal amount of cash required for a particular hooker service. It irks me that rip-off pricing levels are reported on this board as if this is the established norm when in reality these prices are only asked of infrequent club visitors or tourists. Locals or those with stammgast (regular customer) credentials are not asked to pay these prices. In my opinion it should be the purpose of this board to advise members (whether they be regular or infrequent travelers to FKK-Land) that there is better value (and better service) to be had by avoiding places like Palace, Sharks and perhaps Oase (at least for the time being) and heading an hour up the road to Giessen or two hours up the road to Cologne or three hours up the road to Dusseldorf. The amount of money you may save will at least recompense for the extra travel cost and maybe leave a few dollars / euros more in your pocket.In keeping to your philosophy I will try my best to keep them to regular prices when I go next week. Got any tips for getting them to stick to regular prices?

McAdonis
09-26-18, 21:44
But yes I have to agree that Palace, Oase and Sharks are now best left for those who cannot convince themselves to travel very far from the Frankfurt area or for occasional tourists who are content to pay double or treble the norm for sometimes at best very average service.Der Auslnder, we met once at Sharks via a mutual friend. This mutual friend used to do NRW and Frankfurt, but in recent years has restricted himself to primarily Sharks and Oase. Earlier this summer, I also bumped into one of the most prolific Oase posters of yesteryear in a NRW club. If I recall correctly, he had one enjoyable session, and another average session. But nothing to impress him enough to the point he would make NRW his home base for German mongering. I can name at least five other experienced mongers who monger in both NRW and Frankfurt, but prefer Frankfurt. The common denominator amongst these Frankfurt afficionados is that they are not 50 EUR guys. Or if you break down their sessions, I suspect only about 0-20 percent of their rooms are 50 EUR/30 min rooms.

McAdonis
09-26-18, 21:59
Actually 40 for 30 minutes is still available in NRW, why should I pay more in Sharks?A common sentiment amongst the Frankfurt aficionados is that they simply prefer the optics at Oase and Sharks.

Kosher Kowboy
09-26-18, 22:05
It irks me that some appear to happily hand over two or three times the normal amount of cash required for a particular hooker service. It irks me that rip-off pricing levels are reported on this board as if this is the established norm when in reality these prices are only asked of infrequent club visitors or tourists. Locals or those with stammgast (regular customer) credentials are not asked to pay these prices. In my opinion it should be the purpose of this board to advise members (whether they be regular or infrequent travelers to FKK-Land) that there is better value (and better service) to be had by avoiding places like Palace, Sharks and perhaps Oase (at least for the time being) and heading an hour up the road to Giessen or two hours up the road to Cologne or three hours up the road to Dusseldorf. The amount of money you may save will at least recompense for the extra travel cost and maybe leave a few dollars / euros more in your pocket. If the current pricing trend catches hold it will not be long until members are paying Swiss prices all over Germany and the ladies in the Frankfurt Mega-clubs will be charging Euro 100 for each and every half hour in the zimmer!

Lets keep it real and lets call out those who are taking advantage of less frequent visitors.Unfortunately I think many visitors to FKK Clubs and I have met some in clubs have never heard of ISG and found the club thru google searches so we are really here talking among ourselves and collectively we make up a small percentage of visitors as others have pointed out this forum has little impact on pricing. I think the ones taking advantage are the girls in many cases and it comes down to ' vote with your dollars' as we say here so I guess ' vote with your Euros' is a better word. Yes, heading elsewhere (as you are) and / or picking lower hanging fruits than the Precious Princesses is also an option. Many ways to fight the pricing. I think I read a post today somewhere even in the NRW girls were asking more for the extras (unless I saw that on another board? Nothing wrong with pointing out other options, you are correct it is one of the many purposes of this board and many other boards in the P6 world. Discussion is always a good thing. Readers can process all in front of them and take the ball and run with it the best they can.

On another note I was told of a ' Sharks Pact' an agreement that isn't realistic to enforce as there are so many girls not all will stick to it and that pact is really the upper end girls basically saying if they can't get a guy to the room for 100 be it a one hour or a half w extras than shuffle him in and out quick. This is simply what a former Shark many now elsewhere told me, as I said I haven't been to Sharks to even play ball with them recently but will see in a month or two how it goes there. She did tell me the 'exception' (along the lines of your stammgast comment) are regulars of these girls they are ' permitted' to grandfather their rolodex boyz and charge them what they want and give up the shop, but newbies and unknown faces are supposed to be squeezed and not given full time. I believe this girl when she says this pact exists but I do not think it can be enforced as there will always be cheaters thus the reason she is elsewhere now making more, still plenty girls (as you seem to find) giving up great deals for 50 or 100 so I do think guys should fight harder and not cave in so quick or simply jump to the next girl. I have heard from others of a similar pact at oase. Mainhatten certainly has one but even that wall can be cracked.

I think there is also another dynamic in play not talked about that I will toss out there in to the mix. Several other Americans many not on this board I talk to are reporting increased prices and / or decreased service levels in Thailand, Brazil, Colombia, Panama, Costa Rica, parts of SE Asia and elsewhere; all popular monger destinations. I have no clue if Germany is ' immune' to such given the massive influx of readily available eastern European ladies but perhaps prices are on the rise worldwide regardless of location. To be determined.

All we can do is react and try our best.

LaBambaBoy
09-26-18, 22:40
You (and many others) read me incorrectly. I have nothing against tourists. In very many ways, I am one myself except for the fact that due to my air miles to Germany down through the last decade (or more) and after visiting most FKK / Sauna clubs stretching from North Rhine-Westphalia to Bavaria, I know when I am getting good value and when I am being ripped off. So lets say I frequently travel to Deutschland, as I believe you may do as well. I guess what bothers me is the fact that prices are pushing upwards and the attitude of some members in this forum towards that fact. It irks me that some appear to happily hand over two or three times the normal amount of cash required for a particular hooker service. It irks me that rip-off pricing levels are reported on this board as if this is the established norm when in reality these prices are only asked of infrequent club visitors or tourists. Locals or those with stammgast (regular customer) credentials are not asked to pay these prices. In my opinion it should be the purpose of this board to advise members (whether they be regular or infrequent travelers to FKK-Land) that there is better value (and better service) to be had by avoiding places like Palace, Sharks and perhaps Oase (at least for the time being) and heading an hour up the road to Giessen or two hours up the road to Cologne or three hours up the road to Dusseldorf..I am likely going to have a car next time, so I am curious for recommendations (although I feel like I must visit Dietz for the experience, just once.) FKK World in Giessen was on my list- where else would you recommend. Although, hard to leave the Ro lovelies at Sharks behind.

Der Auslander
09-26-18, 23:02
In keeping to your philosophy I will try my best to keep them to regular prices when I go next week. Got any tips for getting them to stick to regular prices?My advice is to enjoy yourself. If you are not a regular customer you will have great difficulty in Sharks, Oase or Palace keeping the girls to regular prices particularly for 30 minute sessions.


Der Auslnder, we met once at Sharks via a mutual friend. This mutual friend used to do NRW and Frankfurt, but in recent years has restricted himself to primarily Sharks and Oase. Earlier this summer, I also bumped into one of the most prolific Oase posters of yesteryear in a NRW club. If I recall correctly, he had one enjoyable session, and another average session. But nothing to impress him enough to the point he would make NRW his home base for German mongering. I can name at least five other experienced mongers who monger in both NRW and Frankfurt, but prefer Frankfurt. The common denominator amongst these Frankfurt afficionados is that they are not 50 EUR guys. Or if you break down their sessions, I suspect only about 0-20 percent of their rooms are 50 EUR/30 min rooms.Yes McAdonis, I remember well meeting you and good to hear from you! The irony of this discussion is that I too have been mostly unaffected by these rip-off prices when in Frankfurt, simply because like the aficionados you mention, I seldom go to the room for less than an hour and normally for a lot longer. I would say to you that not every monger requires a mega-club with over 100 hookers to have a good time. Some of us are content with a smaller number of girls and a higher level of service and the requirement to bargain for these services much less necessary!


Unfortunately I think many visitors to FKK Clubs and I have met some in clubs have never heard of ISG and found the club thru google searches so we are really here talking among ourselves and collectively we make up a small percentage of visitors as others have pointed out this forum has little impact on pricing. I think the ones taking advantage are the girls in many cases and it comes down to ' vote with your dollars' as we say here so I guess ' vote with your Euros' is a better word. Yes, heading elsewhere (as you are) and / or picking lower hanging fruits than the Precious Princesses is also an option. Many ways to fight the pricing. I think I read a post today somewhere even in the NRW girls were asking more for the extras (unless I saw that on another board? Nothing wrong with pointing out other options, you are correct it is one of the many purposes of this board and many other boards in the P6 world. Discussion is always a good thing. Readers can process all in front of them and take the ball and run with it the best they can.I am sure you are correct that this Board has limited impact on pricing but it should have a tone (and set an example) and that tone should not be to pay the hooker all your cash! At least not if you can possibly avoid this outcome. This is the International Sex Guide after all and not the Catholic Little Sisters of the Poor Mouth Charity Guide for Helping Hookers. No this Board should be about advising Members about getting good value from their trip to FKK-Land. Maybe advising Members to give Sharks a miss and to head to FKK World or Sauna Club GoldenTime instead! Maybe Members should be advised to head for FKK Globe in Zurich where yes you pay bigger money for 30 minutes but you have a fantastic collection of supermodel hookers to choose from.

I guess what I am saying is that we are talking about FKK-Land or Germany which is the richest country in the EU. Prices in FKK-Land for hooker services could easily double overnight. They are already double (or more than double) in many EU countries and only held down in Germany by the preponderance of Romanian / Bulgarian hookers who are tentatively based in the country. Four hours down the road (in Zurich) prices are already double. We should try to avoid this costly outcome because it makes it more expensive for us to enjoy our hobby. Lets keep paying the girls but maybe not so much so quickly! :D

Kosher Kowboy
09-26-18, 23:21
They are already double (or more than double) in many EU countries and only held down in Germany by the preponderance of Romanian / Bulgarian hookers who are tentatively based in the country.

Lets keep paying the girls but maybe not so much so quickly! :DSounds like in the EU same thing as many parts world, prices went up. The mass number of Romanian / Bulgarians you mention is why I am wondering if Germany has some kind of a ' temporary immunity' to the price increases of double in the other countries. You mention tentatively in the country, is there anything going on in the EU that may change that? Are my Gypsies going to be deported.

Good thing Trump isn't the Chancellor! :D

Der Auslander
09-26-18, 23:30
Sounds like in the EU same thing as many parts world, prices went up. The mass number of Romanian / Bulgarians you mention is why I am wondering if Germany has some kind of a ' temporary immunity' to the price increases of double in the other countries. You mention tentatively in the country, is there anything going on in the EU that may change that? Are my Gypsies going to be deported.

Good thing Trump isn't the Chancellor! :DI don't think any Romanian or Bulgarian ladies will be deported from Germany in the near future! The rise of the far-right has not been that significant here yet! My concern would be further changes to the prostitution laws (in Germany) which could easily have a dramatic impact on pricing. I believe the new laws have already had a significant impact and are partially why we are seeing an upwards movement in current pricing. IMO the situation will definitely get worse. I'm just hoping that this will be later rather than sooner!

UltraHappy
09-27-18, 00:24
In keeping to your philosophy I will try my best to keep them to regular prices when I go next week. Got any tips for getting them to stick to regular prices?First and foremost, you must say no crazy offers. As soon as you agree to pay something crazy to one girl, word will quickly spread like wildfire among the girls that "such-and-such dumb tourist just paid me $X for a short room. " Then, all of the girls, especially the sharky ones, will start harassing you and expect the same exorbitant sums from you.

Absent befriending some guys who know the lay of the land as guides (easy to do), your best strategy is to simply hold your ground. You may find a couple girls not willing to go to the room with you at standard rates, but in most cases, had you went with those sharky girls, you would have probably regretted the experience in any case. As you gain more experience, you will become more attuned to the sharky girl red flags and increase your success of finding the good apples of the bunch.

Der Auslander
09-27-18, 01:16
First and foremost, you must say no crazy offers. As soon as you agree to pay something crazy to one girl, word will quickly spread like wildfire among the girls that "such-and-such dumb tourist just paid me $X for a short room. " Then, all of the girls, especially the sharky ones, will start harassing you and expect the same exorbitant sums from you.

Absent befriending some guys who know the lay of the land as guides (easy to do), your best strategy is to simply hold your ground. You may find a couple girls not willing to go to the room with you at standard rates, but in most cases, had you went with those sharky girls, you would have probably regretted the experience in any case. As you gain more experience, you will become more attuned to the sharky girl red flags and increase your success of finding the good apples of the bunch.Sound advice!

Sirioja
09-27-18, 03:57
A common sentiment amongst the Frankfurt aficionados is that they simply prefer the optics at Oase and Sharks.For my fFench eyes and for love in bed, since September 2016 , I really meet prettier and higher level to make love in bed, at GT, YY and LR, than at Sharks or Oase, and for only 50 per 30 mn and no extra asked. From May 2015 to September 2016 , I was at Sharks every week end, sometimes twice on week end, on Summer 2014 I was every week end at Oase, but when You are not interested just to be sucked and fuck, or to be fucked by low level upselling girls, but You prefer smart girls, even sometimes they change, but NRW is since 2 years higher level potential for my demanding, but I may be much more demanding than average, so when I find a attractive look with smart behavior = not speaking about money, then I behave to create her to become my GF in bed and sometimes even out of the room.

Only Florentina and top class T. Had this level since October 2017, for my visits at Sharks and Oase. Palace is higher potential for women for my eyes. Oase and for many girls at Sharks, are little girls land, but when You like women, NRW is usually more interesting, and woman types are less expensive than little girls who think they worth Globe rate, when they would be just ridiculous compare to some Globe girls. At Globe, when I pay 260€ per hour, I only go with very excellence, reason why I don t go with Megan now even Globe was my present for her and she seems to have a better life now, but I always think I would be happy to find many Globe girls I don t go with for Globe rate, but in Germany I would run and I know they are lovely.

Sharks and Oase are second choice for casting for me. Quantity never made quality. Touristic level now, even can sometimes find a rare now, good girl.

ExpatLover
09-27-18, 07:30
I don't think any Romanian or Bulgarian ladies will be deported from Germany in the near future! The rise of the far-right has not been that significant here yet! My concern would be further changes to the prostitution laws (in Germany) which could easily have a dramatic impact on pricing. I believe the new laws have already had a significant impact and are partially why we are seeing an upwards movement in current pricing. IMO the situation will definitely get worse. I'm just hoping that this will be later rather than sooner!It is completely illegal, every European citizen has the right to live in the country of his choice. The prices are rising and the offer is decreasing, less young and fresh girls entering the P6 scene due to the new law but not only, better economical situation reduce the number of desperate girls. Compare to 3 or 10 years back the things have completely changed, less christian senior client more Asian and guys who don't eat pork, as a result less demanding customers for the girls, no kissing. But also more 30 minutes rooms which is putting some stress for the girls who can t have sex 15 times every day.

Optimist
09-27-18, 09:44
Der Auslander. Well said. However small the impact of this forum, it has a tone, and the tone should not be to pour money for bad service. Especially as many girls and owners check these forums. We owe it to newbie visitors reading this thread to tell them about the fact that they will be ripped off if they let themselves be. If the customers choose to pay the prices asked then that is up to them, but at least we should tell them in advance of the ripoff behaviour so they can make their own informed decisions. So I make no apology for campaigning about this in the Sharks thread.

UH, KK, HS all also make excellent points.

So for newbies.

1. Remember each individual girl needs your money more than you need her. Saying no is easy when a girl has so little respect that she sees you only as a wallet and no a person.

2. If you can't get what you want, go to another club (of course if you go for the size and optics of Sharks there are not so many other options).

3. Consider the possibility that paying inflated prices leads to further inflation and you may price yourself out, even in the short term as UH implies.

4. Show the girls you are experienced, and a regular. It is easier to get the best service by going to the same club for several days. Just watch the way the attitudes of the girls start to change.

The girls are running a cartel in some clubs, as Pistons points out. We do not need to feed this

As McAdonis implies, regular visitors, especially ones who are known to do sessions of an hour, are much less affected by the price explosion.

KK. Don't worry about forced exodus of ro and bu girls. Unless the EU collapses this cannot happen. More threatening is the prospect of more prostitution control laws: at the moment these seem to be largely off the immediate political agenda.

BB69. Yes, 40 euros for30 minutes still available in some NRW clubs. Even 70 euros for 60 minutes.

Of course, if as JNPR30, points out, a customer chooses to pay for long sessions for little sex, that is paying over the odds IF one calculates value by the number of minutes fucking. I do long sessions. But at least it is totally my decision, (as I say earlier, this is all about informed decision making) not the girl laying down restrictions (like only 5 minutes sex per 30 minutes) or inflated prices.

Cheers to all.

Optimist
09-27-18, 09:55
I am likely going to have a car next time, so I am curious for recommendations (although I feel like I must visit Dietz for the experience, just once.) FKK World in Giessen was on my list- where else would you recommend. Although, hard to leave the Ro lovelies at Sharks behind.LaBamba. As I replied in another thread, it is hard to recommend clubs. Like McAdonis says, some guys (like me) like a naked big club, such as those in Frankfurt area so that restricts the options. I suggest, talking just about the FFM area you try Finca (if you have a car) or World, and Bahama (small club underwear) or Dietzenbach (but beware, the latter is very very down-market facilities, really just a tatty shed). That will give you a good idea of what is available. A bit further away is Babylon, naked, (girls not men) medium size club with solid German clientele.

BigBuddy69
09-27-18, 12:44
A common sentiment amongst the Frankfurt aficionados is that they simply prefer the optics at Oase and Sharks.I've never been to Oase but in sharks, the looks of the girls are not so different than in Acapulco. The facilities are clearly superior bur I don't give a shit about the sauna or the swimming pool.

LaBambaBoy
09-27-18, 15:31
LaBamba. As I replied in another thread, it is hard to recommend clubs. Like McAdonis says, some guys (like me) like a naked big club, such as those in Frankfurt area so that restricts the options. I suggest, talking just about the FFM area you try Finca (if you have a car) or World, and Bahama (small club underwear) or Dietzenbach (but beware, the latter is very very down-market facilities, really just a tatty shed). That will give you a good idea of what is available. A bit further away is Babylon, naked, (girls not men) medium size club with solid German clientele.Optimist, makes sense to me. My next trip (months away) I'll have a car, and since I already experienced Sharks and Mainhattan, I am going to explore some of the smaller clubs. Dietz for sure (sounds like exactly my kind of seedy, an interesting alternative to the RLD), and then maybe Caribic or Bahama or Palace. Perhaps a visit to Treff188? Then capping it all off with a trip to Oase, or a night back at Sharks. Finca I had not heard of- 2 hour drive is not unreasonable.

Very tough to see what will appeal without going yourself, I understand that. I would say one thing that matters is how I will fare speaking English only, ugly american that I am. But yeah, I learned long ago you have to allow for bad experiences if you want to have new experiences.

Tedesco
09-27-18, 16:08
....it is hard to recommend clubs. Like McAdonis says, some guys (like me) like a naked big club, such as those in Frankfurt area so that restricts the options.....I fully agree with you. Depending on time available, kilometers you want to travel by car or public transport, money you want to spend for travel expenses and other topics to be considered there is a nice bunch of possibilities (Bahama vs Sharks / Palace / Mainhattan and also between the last three; Finca, Babylon and Parksauna Residenz in the hinterland but each place with a certain USP making it interesting for different mongers).

Finally it's a snap shot of the day when being there. Oooh, Sunday, boring, fair and exhibition period maybe too many customers coming from abroad to have fun, personal bad mood on that day, you don't like the food although other guys on the board were satisfied about. You hope for black girls but on that day only one of five shows up (and only up from 8 pm, but your schedule isn't already finished at 9 pm due to flight schedule).

I think the best is not to come with a list of expectations to be fulfilled in complete. Be open-minded and go for it. Don't pay too much attention about what other guys have written but try to make your own experience. That's often the best you can do. Last but not least: keep chilled.

Lover28X
09-27-18, 18:17
I fully agree with you. Depending on time available, kilometers you want to travel by car or public transport, money you want to spend for travel expenses and other topics to be considered there is a nice bunch of possibilities (Bahama vs Sharks / Palace / Mainhattan and also between the last three; Finca, Babylon and Parksauna Residenz in the hinterland but each place with a certain USP making it interesting for different mongers).

Finally it's a snap shot of the day when being there. Oooh, Sunday, boring, fair and exhibition period maybe too many customers coming from abroad to have fun, personal bad mood on that day, you don't like the food although other guys on the board were satisfied about. You hope for black girls but on that day only one of five shows up (and only up from 8 pm, but your schedule isn't already finished at 9 pm due to flight schedule).

I think the best is not to come with a list of expectations to be fulfilled in complete. Be open-minded and go for it. Don't pay too much attention about what other guys have written but try to make your own experience. That's often the best you can do. Last but not least: keep chilled.I think that's the best possible advice to follow.

ExpatLover
09-27-18, 20:31
Optimist, makes sense to me. My next trip (months away) I'll have a car, and since I already experienced Sharks and Mainhattan, I am going to explore some of the smaller clubs. Dietz for sure (sounds like exactly my kind of seedy, an interesting alternative to the RLD), and then maybe Caribic or Bahama or Palace. Perhaps a visit to Treff188? Then capping it all off with a trip to Oase, or a night back at Sharks. Finca I had not heard of- 2 hour drive is not unreasonable.

Very tough to see what will appeal without going yourself, I understand that. I would say one thing that matters is how I will fare speaking English only, ugly american that I am. But yeah, I learned long ago you have to allow for bad experiences if you want to have new experiences.You can forget at least Dietz, except you like ugly girls and want to take significant risk to catch something, girls terrible, premises terrible, food terrible. At least for me .

Sirioja
09-27-18, 20:44
I've never been to Oase but in sharks, the looks of the girls are not so different than in Acapulco. The facilities are clearly superior bur I don't give a shit about the sauna or the swimming pool.Hessen was high level in 2014 to Summer 2016 , without upselling at Sharks or World or Mainhattan, except at Oase and Palace, but since September 2016 I find prettier girls in NRW and at YY NL, with higher level in bed, full GFE for 50/30 mn.

Hessen is now touristic land, average level is for tourists, girls are on clients demanding level.

Fortunately, anywhere, can sometimes find a girl You make improve for You, but beauties are more and more rare in Germany, to be motivated to spend money. Gap is wider and wider with Globe level, when some little girls ask for nearly same rate, do they think they are top beauty or top performer? From my little experience, smart and high level girls don't upsell, and I had many top girls in NRW or Hessen.

McAdonis
09-27-18, 22:39
I've never been to Oase but in sharks, the looks of the girls are not so different than in Acapulco.I only report what others have told me. I think that many who have been to both Acapulco and Sharks would disagree with you.

Mongers preferences can be extremely different. I only learned this AFTER I started to speaking to other mongers and really listening (many had to explain their viewpoints to me more than once). Sometimes extremely small things that seem trivial and unimportant to you, can make a huge difference to how someone else might perceive the line-up. In other words, most mongers cannot objectively evaluate the LU for looks. A single bad experience or a good experience can cloud their judgement.

I don't think I can objectively evaluate Sharks LU for optics. I recently attended Sharks twice within a six day span. On the latter visit, I counted about 15 WGs who I had previously done before. But of those 15, many were not repeatable or I had just done them recently and I wasn't in the mood yet to repeat them again. I did not find any fresh, young attractive ones. This caused me to leave the club that day with the impression that the optics are "down", because nobody excited me that day. But if I had been a newbie attending Sharks that first time, my perception of the optics would have been completely different. I would have been excited by the optics because I would have had 15 WGs on my to-do-list.

Banana Boi
09-28-18, 00:02
I notice guys indicating lineups are bad when 1 or 2 of their favorite girls aren't there. We can be at the same club 2 days in a row and first night is great and second night bad yet the lineups are essentially the same less 1 or 2 favorites missing. It wasn't like there were a few new hot girls on the first night opposed to the second visit.

Member #4581
09-28-18, 02:55
There is the aspect that our tastes do not match. A guy that likes Brazilian and latino types might go into a club, see girls fully to his liking and very likely I would not like that same place given that my preference tends to be young, fresh faced, smaller butt, small tit, slender petite, cute faced types.

Then there is the other aspect that guys somehow can't separate optics and service objectively. As BB said below. This is something that guys ought to be able to do, but somehow don't. So, they go into a club, don't get good service, don't see their fav girls and report that optics are down. I agree with BB, optics in a club don't change significantly day to day in a short amount of time, except for the larger number of girls on the weekend.

Sometimes I read here that optics in Sharks are down, or that ooh suddenly a lot of hot gazelles are in the club and then I visit the club in a day or two after that, and to me not much has changed from my prior visit 3 or 4 months ago and looks and service levels are broadly the same.

ExpatLover
09-28-18, 07:07
There is the aspect that our tastes do not match. A guy that likes Brazilian and latino types might go into a club, see girls fully to his liking and very likely I would not like that same place given that my preference tends to be young, fresh faced, smaller butt, small tit, slender petite, cute faced types.

Then there is the other aspect that guys somehow can't separate optics and service objectively. As BB said below. This is something that guys ought to be able to do, but somehow don't. So, they go into a club, don't get good service, don't see their fav girls and report that optics are down. I agree with BB, optics in a club don't change significantly day to day in a short amount of time, except for the larger number of girls on the weekend.

Sometimes I read here that optics in Sharks are down, or that ooh suddenly a lot of hot gazelles are in the club and then I visit the club in a day or two after that, and to me not much has changed from my prior visit 3 or 4 months ago and looks and service levels are broadly the same.Sorry but today in Shark you have a lot of veteran prostitutes even they are young they worked before in several other clubs, why I can say that it is just that I am retired, therefor plenty of time to visit clubs, and saw them in the other clubs. Last week was sunny and believe me under the sun light many girls were looking under 5, fake boobs, fat, some belly, Botox, hair extension, skin problem only a very few were beautiful for me which means young, fresh, more or less new in the business, nice skin, no bobox or sili, in summary a natural beauty not fake. The new law and the improvement of the economical situation is reducing the number of new girls entering the business. Some of them prefer a sugar daddy or doing escort and not getting fucked 10 or 15 times per day by any kind of guy able to put 50 or 100 euro on the table.

Optimist
09-28-18, 09:36
Optimist, makes sense to me. My next trip (months away) I'll have a car, and since I already experienced Sharks and Mainhattan, I am going to explore some of the smaller clubs. Dietz for sure (sounds like exactly my kind of seedy, an interesting alternative to the RLD), and then maybe Caribic or Bahama or Palace. Perhaps a visit to Treff188? Then capping it all off with a trip to Oase, or a night back at Sharks. Finca I had not heard of- 2 hour drive is not unreasonable.

Very tough to see what will appeal without going yourself, I understand that. I would say one thing that matters is how I will fare speaking English only, ugly american that I am. But yeah, I learned long ago you have to allow for bad experiences if you want to have new experiences.As far as I know English is sufficient almost everywhere in the FFM area. Less so in some of the smaller NRW clubs. Of course a few words of German or Romanian makes a good impression in some clubs.

Enjoy your exploring.

Optimist
09-28-18, 09:42
Mongers preferences can be extremely different. I only learned this AFTER I started to speaking to other mongers and really listening (many had to explain their viewpoints to me more than once). Sometimes extremely small things that seem trivial and unimportant to you, can make a huge difference to how someone else might perceive the line-up. In other words, most mongers cannot objectively evaluate the LU for looks. A single bad experience or a good experience can cloud their judgement.

I don't think I can objectively evaluate Sharks LU for optics. I recently attended Sharks twice within a six day span. On the latter visit, I counted about 15 WGs who I had previously done before. But of those 15, many were not repeatable or I had just done them recently and I wasn't in the mood yet to repeat them again. I did not find any fresh, young attractive ones. This caused me to leave the club that day with the impression that the optics are "down", because nobody excited me that day. But if I had been a newbie attending Sharks that first time, my perception of the optics would have been completely different. I would have been excited by the optics because I would have had 15 WGs on my to-do-list.Exactly. That's why I encourage new members to make their own explorations to find out what suits them.

So many times I have been unhappy with optics, when really it was all in my head for the reasons you say. I think estimates of optics are 50% mood related. Having said that, as with "superstar" or "catastrophe" girls there is some general consensus: for example, optics wise Sharks is better than Dietzenbach. But Sharks vs Oase vs World is not so easy (although most agree that the larger line up at the first two gives better optics).

ExpatLover
09-28-18, 12:14
Exactly. That's why I encourage new members to make their own explorations to find out what suits them.

So many times I have been unhappy with optics, when really it was all in my head for the reasons you say. I think estimates of optics are 50% mood related. Having said that, as with "superstar" or "catastrophe" girls there is some general consensus: for example, optics wise Sharks is better than Dietzenbach. But Sharks vs Oase vs World is not so easy (although most agree that the larger line up at the first two gives better optics).3 or 5 years back it was difficult to choose but today for me \shark is the best, Oase and World can t renew enough their LU so many veteran girls in World like Alina, Dianna, Alexandra. And too many cheating girls like Cheyenne or Raissa. For me the only is Shark even the LU is also getting worse.

McAdonis
09-28-18, 23:06
So many times I have been unhappy with optics, when really it was all in my head for the reasons you say. I think estimates of optics are 50% mood related. Having said that, as with "superstar" or "catastrophe" girls there is some general consensus: for example, optics wise Sharks is better than Dietzenbach. But Sharks vs Oase vs World is not so easy (although most agree that the larger line up at the first two gives better optics).Mood definitely plays a factor when assessing optics, but it can only do so much. I'd liken it to comparing wines. If someone poured me glasses from a 100 EUR bottle and a 150 EUR bottle, it would be hard for me to differentiate. Mood might influence how I evaluate each. But if someone poured me a really cheap wine, I would be able to instantly identify it as lower quality. The taste would be so markedly inferior to the other two, that I'd come to the same conclusion even if my mood was extremely good.


I notice guys indicating lineups are bad when 1 or 2 of their favorite girls aren't there.With regards to "favorites status", I've seen it where one monger's opinion about a specific WG's optics can change within a short period of time (2-3 months). I was sitting with another monger recently and he started talking about how pretty a WG's face was. I remember thinking "She looks exactly like she did three months ago. But last time, you told me she was not attractive enough for you to session". The only thing that changed is the fact that this WG now smiles more at this particular monger or flirts with him more. I've seen the opposite happen as well.

When assessing optics, I try my best to focus on optics (not how good the service was, not how nice a WG is to me, not if she is my favorite). When I used to rate Sharks as the best LU, it was due to Lea and Diana. The former was a favorite. The latter I only sessioned once. But I found myself staring at both all the time. Even though Lea and I had a falling out and we ignore each other now, I still stare at her when she is not looking. And I have no problem admitting she is still the top optic for me in FKK land.

One or two WGs make a difference with regards to how I see the LU, because sometimes they are only 2-5 that really stand out optically. So if someone were asking me to compare the optics between Sharks and Acapulco, I would probably instinctively compare the top five Sharks WGs against the top five Acapulco WGs. If top two are on holiday, well that makes a difference. At really small clubs, two girls missing will have a significant impact.

MaxSquatter
09-29-18, 04:17
I've always liked some pubic hair on women. It seems to be trending more now. I've been to several FKK's but never seen a pube on a woman. Any pube sightings at Sharks? Haha.

TugGently
09-29-18, 05:23
It looks like I will be in Frankfurt on Oct 19 and 20. This will be my 4th trip. Anyone else from here in attendance that weekend? I usually take some time in between rooms and the girls tend to leave me alone when they see I am not looking. Might be nice to have someone to chat with during the down time.

I saw a report that Roxy is back, so I am looking forward to seeing her again. Anyone know what happened to Emina? Short blond hair and a member of the fish tank crew. Last I saw her was in March.

Sirioja
09-29-18, 18:23
No room with her but Roxy, sitting under fishes, has really lovely and sweet behavior. If she behave the same for sex, for club rate, if you like her look, a nice girl.

Kosher Kowboy
09-29-18, 18:54
I've always liked some pubic hair on women. It seems to be trending more now. I've been to several FKK's but never seen a pube on a woman. Any pube sightings at Sharks? Haha.I too have always liked such, I remember the days when their hair used to poke thru their bikinis on the beaches and pools growing up and loved it. Probably my favorite porn star back than, Hyapatia Lee (sp?) and many others had large puffy bushes and I always liked the visuals of their soaked pubes either in dripping cum or their own natural juices. Not sure how many guys would remember but these were the days of I think was called the Betamax prior to DVDs and the remote control was a hand held attached to a cord, was kind of annoying compared to today's technology. However, not really my thing anymore although might be a pleasant surprise one day in DE to find such; perhaps there are some girls known for bushes.

I know a lot of American escorts over the years have told me pubic lice / crabs are one reason they constantly shave more so wax to avoid razor burns as to limit the chances of crotch critters. A friend once told me a very well known Shark in fact told him she often with hairy clients would take a paper towel out and make a hole in the center and put it over his cock for both the blowjob to avoid hair in the mouth and also when riding them as not to constantly grind on hair.

This was actually ironically told to me also by one of the mob bosses in Mainhatten she and others often do this. She also told me they like to be on top not only to control the speed and depth of the penetration of guys cocks but also to not ride the bottom 2 inches or so to avoid their skin coming in contact with hair if no paper towel is being used as a barrier. She also told me they like to ride hairy guys preferably followed by doggie and missionary last as it allows for the least grinding of hair in to their pussy regions.

Gaolegao366
09-30-18, 04:47
It has been a while since last time I was in Sharks, Came around 6 pm on Thursday night. To be honest, Thursday is really not a good day for girls or guys. Girls to guys ratio are 5:1 and most of the girls are not that popular on this forum. All the girls just sit around and looked around, because there were not many customers around. The weather was great but too bad Sharks shut down outside BBQ last week. Friday was better, more girls and guys. Arrived around 7 pm and it was busy. Sessioned with Helen and Francesca. Is it me or what, just feel like girls do not move very often now in Sharks. There was a couple of time when I girls approach me and when I turn around and they see my face, they would say:" Oh, it is you again, bye". For people who is wondering if Amelia and her twin sister, they are back.

Sharks is really lack of talent those days, miss the good old days two, three years ago or even one year ago. Before the management decided to let all girls come to work without any screening, the number of girls just increased exponentially.

Anyway, talked to the bartenders and girls I used to know, make me feel like it is good to come back. Not sure for other guys who come to sharks, maybe they live close by so they could hang out with their friends, maybe they have their favorite girls. But for me, I am that kind of person like to go to one place for a long time and also establish some friendly relationship with staff and some of the girls in Sharks even though flying 8 hours one way from the US is a real pain in the neck.

Sirioja
09-30-18, 08:12
Some quite busy girls left to more expensive business on FRA tour, because too many girls at Sharks and not enough business, they say.

Another FRA club is quite interesting at the moment, with woman types.

ExpatLover
09-30-18, 11:17
It has been a while since last time I was in Sharks, Came around 6 pm on Thursday night. To be honest, Thursday is really not a good day for girls or guys. Girls to guys ratio are 5:1 and most of the girls are not that popular on this forum. All the girls just sit around and looked around, because there were not many customers around. The weather was great but too bad Sharks shut down outside BBQ last week. Friday was better, more girls and guys. Arrived around 7 pm and it was busy. Sessioned with Helen and Francesca. Is it me or what, just feel like girls do not move very often now in Sharks. There was a couple of time when I girls approach me and when I turn around and they see my face, they would say:" Oh, it is you again, bye". For people who is wondering if Amelia and her twin sister, they are back.

Sharks is really lack of talent those days, miss the good old days two, three years ago or even one year ago. Before the management decided to let all girls come to work without any screening, the number of girls just increased exponentially.

Anyway, talked to the bartenders and girls I used to know, make me feel like it is good to come back. Not sure for other guys who come to sharks, maybe they live close by so they could hang out with their friends, maybe they have their favorite girls. But for me, I am that kind of person like to go to one place for a long time and also establish some friendly relationship with staff and some of the girls in Sharks even though flying 8 hours one way from the US is a real pain in the neck.Each one can behave like he wishes, personally I am quite neutral, I think that nobody can really guess who I am even I can recognize some of the senior members in the clubs. I also try to be very discrete with the girls no need to expose our self, the girls are also mostly cheating.

Matt728
09-30-18, 20:58
Prologue

Visited Sharks Yesterday. This was my third time in this club in two and a half years.

Arrived a little before 3 pm and had some leftover breakfast with a beer to relax a bit and calm my nerves. Headed to a sofa with another beer a took in the scenery. I read some people complaining about the line-up, but unless they grew up in the Playboy Mansion, I don't really get what the problem is.

I was approached by Melanie (Ro) blond with glasses. However, I was not yet ready for action and as we chatted she sensed that and left politely with a "maybe see you later" (I mention this because some girls just turn on their heels when the find out you are not interested). I could easily have done her, as she was nice enough, but to be totally honest, she had too much competition, and she was not spot on my type.

Chapter 1

Spotted a tiny and very beautiful Spanish-looking girl sitting between the pole and the bar. Approached her and after the mandatory introductory remarks during which she revealed herself to be Venus (Ro) we agreed to do a room. I told her that it was my first today, so I would be fast, and suggested 50 E /30 min. "No problem. It is up to you what you want" she replied, and off we went. We were probably not in there for the full 30 minutes (I am not a timekeeper), but I got what I came for (which is the GFE type thing). Unfortunately, I don't really remember what happened in the room, but I left it full of joy. She is highly recommended. I saw her several times after that and I am amazed that she was not more busy.

Chapter 2

I have another beer and walk around (inside, outside, sit down, get up again) and eventually end up upstairs at the rail enjoying the view of downstairs. After a while, a girl's voice behind me says "JUMP". I turn and we have a short exchange. I find her quite charming, but on purpose I try to seem uninterested, so that she turn and start to leave. This is in order to see her from behind. She passes the test (just, as she has covered herself up with a towel) and I call out "What's your name". She comes back and I learn that she is Eleonora (Ro). We sit down and there is a bit of touching and I find her very charming. She has this habit of smiling whilst opening her mouth fully up and sticking her tongue slightly out after having said something she thinks funny. I get a strong urge to kiss her, but she says "not here". I quickly suggest 100 E /1 HR and she agrees to what turns out to be one of the best rooms I have ever done, even though the is not capable of DFK. But what she lacks in kissing capabilities (I rarely kiss anyway) she has in a sweet bubbling personality and ability to have an intelligent conversation. A true girlfriend experience. Highly recommended. I also leave this room full of joy, and can't really believe my success with two great rooms in a row.

However, after this, things started to go south.

Chapter 3

After having been breaking upstairs for a while, contemplating my next move, I finally decided to go with Eleonora again. I usually try go go with as many different girls as possible when I am in a club (and there was no lack of really attractive options this night at Sharks), but the fact that I am into GFE and the room with her had been extraordinary in that respect, I thought that maybe I should do what others do when they find a good match: Do multiple long rooms and build the relationship. I could see her at her spot just left of the stairs towards the old cinema and started heading down.

I don't even reach the staircase before Angelina, "the Egyptian", sets in her attack. I had a room with her the last time I was in Sharks and this night she has recognized me (calling me the romantic guy) and I have been able to turn her politely (and truthfully) down several times with "need to finish beer / food", "just came out of a room", etc. But this time, I can find no way out, so I am dragged to the nearest available spot to sit down. There is a guy in the jacuzzi a few meters away who has but his towel and robe where she wants us to sit, but she just shoves it away. After a having exchanges a few un-pleasantries (which are not only unpleasant, as she is also quite funny in her own strange way), I suggest to do 50 E /30 minutes. She slightly reluctantly agrees and we head to a room. I have already decided that I don't want to finish, so after a while, I break off, although from a pure physical perspective, she is actually pretty good. She is not pleased. Seriously offended is probably a good description. And for a while, I worry that she will do. Luckily, she cools down pretty fast and says that "if that's the way you want it, . . . ". Note: There is a few less favorable reports on her here on ISG, but she is not that bad, and I think that the right guy, who understands how to handle her, would be able to have a really good time with her, as she definitely has some skills.

The streak of fantastic rooms being broken, I now look forward to meeting my Eleonora again, but faith will that she is not available, and that fact leads to the biggest disaster I have ever experienced in a club.

Chapter 4

As I don't need a break this time, I immediately start the search for Eleonora, and finds her upstairs sitting on the lab of another man, using her charms just like she did with me. It bugs me, but I am also think that it is not all bad. There are other opportunities and plenty of talent present, so when I am practically shoved against one of the pillars just below the stairs by this young, pretty, slim body-to-die-for girl, I don't hesitate. We head toward the rooms to the right of the fish tank, but unfortunately, there is a line building up (Guess who is right in front of us? Yes: Eleonora and wrong guy). I end up with Alexandra (Ro, I think) which I have come to learn her name is in the "waiting couch". While I am considering the options of being cheap (50 E /30 min) or suggesting 100 E /1 h, another girl turns up an sits on my other side. This is Lori (I think), who is a friend of Alexandra's. They want sell a duo. I turn the offer down, politely. Alexandra, who does the taking then tries to convince me saying that one needs "to try new things", "be open", it does not need to be expensive, etc. I decline again; I can bare handle one girl at a time. After a bit back and forth, where I stay firm and Alexandra gets more and more upset (like in angry) Lori gets it and leave. Unfortunately, now the atmosphere is a bit tense and Alexandra not happy at all. I consider leaving at this point, but think "what the heck", I never did a threesome, and well she is right, some things you should just try. I think of the "not expensive" she mentioned and propose 50 E+50 E for 30 minutes. She reluctantly agrees a goes to get Lori. The three of us now back in the couch, Lori smiling, but Alexandra still not pleased. This time because she "hates waiting". Then, fortunately, the room next door becomes available. But she is not pleased. It is the SM room, and the bed is a bit small. I ask her if we should wait for another room, but no, we have waited long enough. So, the action starts. I ask for CBJ. Not good, I learn, as there can be no CIM as she mutters when she puts on the rubber. While she is doing the deed, I try to touch Lori a bit, and so far so good, but after a while, I get the question of prostate massage (I will get it for free) while she is toughing me a place where I don't like to be touched because I am too sensitive there. I tell her that I don't like it, but can't help smiling / laughing and apparently she takes that as I do like it, put a rubber on her finger and tries to stick it in. Not good. She has 1/2 inch nails, and it feels like a knife attempting to enter. I believe she tries to be careful, but it just hurts. I tell her, and she angrily stops. Then I decide it is time for some normal mish, and Lori is first. It feels nice and she is not bad at all. Then it is Alexandra, and physically, she is smoking hot, but I just can't finish. Not even in doggy, which is usually a sure thing. So I give up and Alexandra gets furious. I am told to lie down, so that she can finish me with her hands. I decline. Then hell breaks loose, how I am wasting their time, how they need to feed their families and how I clearly need extras to finish, and not the least how I am now guilty in having destroyed her mood so that she cannot make more money tonight. This time I raise my voice very slightly and tell her that the only thing I need is a good atmosphere / mood and that she destroyed that right from the beginning. As we walk to the lockers, she orders me to smile (which I do, she doesn't) and I then give her the 2 x 50 E. She shoves one of them at Lori, turns on her heel and disappears without a word poor Lori trailing after her.

I am a bit in shock after this and the night is not longer a good night. But luckily, I have a savior!

Chapter 5

I find Eleonora at her usual spot. She can see that I am not happy, so we sit down on a couch together, very closely. Telling her of my recent experience is really relieving and improves my mood and I end up being able to see the really comical in the whole situation and by that she saves my entire night. We do another room 100 E /1 h. Highly recommended for GFE. She is a star.

Chapter 6

My spirits now having been lifted considerably, I am having a break but nevertheless now starting to get a bit tired. But I am usually able to do 4 pops, and with all the talent running around, it would be a shame not to take advantage. I have taken refuge in the darkest corner I could find, in a couch just left of the fish tank. That is when Anastasia drops (Ro) down beside me. Long legs, skinny, young, a face a bit like Cameron Diaz. In other words, hot. We sit a bit and chat and she is surprised that I have never tried the backdoor. I tell her that I have no interest, and she something about being open and trying new things. We agree on a standard session 100 E /1 h. In the room she talks constantly. Only the CBJ makes her quiet for a while. The topic is the advantages of the backdoor, how nice it is for both parties, etc. Contrary to my earlier experience with up-selling, I feel no pressure whatsoever. It is like having a coach / advisor objectively informing me of choices I can make if I want to. I end up losing my backdoor virginity to Anastasia. I am happy I did it. Although she made me believe she enjoyed it, it didn't do it for me (as I had expected). But now I know for sure. While we were at it she suddenly asked "Do you know how much this cost". I replied "200" and she thought a bit and agreed, 1 h + the backdoor. I didn't manage the 4th pop of the night. No fault of hers, but I was just too exhausted. Anastasia is highly recommended. Very pleasant and fun company, but not a real GFE.

Epilogue

After having paid Anastasia and kissed goodbye, I went straight to the showers to get rid of the vast amounts of oil she had managed to cover my parts in. I left the club at about 1 am.

Matt.

Hank Moody 69
09-30-18, 22:51
I was a little off my game towards the end on Saturday, so I wanted to be especially careful to make good choices today. I showed up at 1:30 or so. I looked at the buffet, but wasn't hungry yet, so I took a seat and let the girls come to me. One after another they stopped by. A few were interesting and pretty. I liked one Romanian girl, 28 with wavy hair and a longer name like Katarina. It was early on and I don't remember. She stayed for some time and we talked. A little later a very attractive Romanian girl with medium length black hair caught my eye, so I motioned her over. Wow! Unfortunately I can't remember her name, but we spent 30 minutes talking while I stroked her beautiful body and she lay across my lap. I would say her face is an 8. 5 and her body is a 9. She told me that she doesn't like to rush, so she generally refuses to do 30 minute sessions. I said I was looking for an hour anyway, and asked how much it would be. She said 100 e. I played it cool and said, "I can do that. If you leave me very satisfied I'll give you a tip. " We went to a nearby room with a proper bed and she covered the whole thing, which is nice. She was really looking forward to the massage and brought some lotion. We took our time and filled the hour. There was no discussion of money, condoms, etc. I had said I like GFE and she played the part perfectly. Sometimes you just click. She was headed back to start university tomorrow (studying child psychology). After our session I didn't see her again.

I waited around for the afternoon buffet to start. Many more girls came by, but I told them not for a couple of hours. A few took a liking to me and kept returning throughout the night. Melanie (glasses and ponytail with natural breasts, not to be confused with the hustler with fake ones who otherwise looks the same) was one. I remember reading about the girls who sit by the fish tank, and I had noticed a few hot ones there, so I kept an eye out. There was a wide range of optics from "nope" to 9 in the club. Some looked good from a distance, but didn't do it for me up close. I moved around a few times to see different girls. There was one blonde and very thin / small girl near the pole at the front I wanted to meet, but she gave off a vibe like she wasn't interested in me. Eventually I settled across from the fish tank and after a few girls dropped by I motioned to one of the hot girls I had been watching. She came over, draped herself across my lap, and looked into my eyes.

Her name is Betty, she's a thin Romanian girl with a smoking pussy and ass. Most of her hair is a lighter brown, but I saw different colors when it was pulled back. This was clearly another good match. When I told her I wanted to give her a massage she said God sent me. Whatever works. I suggested 60 min for 100 e + tip if I'm satisfied. We had a relaxed, passionate session. She clenched my dick a few times and moaned loudly. That was nice. Being my eighth session of the weekend, I needed a bit more to finish off anyway. She told me that she's also returning to Romania in October to finish law school. She asked if she earned a tip, and I said for sure.

Soon after I met some of Betty's friends. One was a little hottie with blue highlights in her hair. I had watched her take several sessions, but never seen her idle. She and another girl were trying to get me to do both, but I said I couldn't. They were immediately disinterested.

So. A few hours of sauna, spa, food, sauna later and I decided to call it a night. Aurora was one of the last girls to come meet me. She says she's one of only two 18-year-old in the club. I guessed she was a few years older.

All in all it was a good visit. I'm glad I went because I had two great sessions. Some of the girls were pushy, but there were definitely a few on the high end.

50 entry, 100 + 20 session, 100 + 20 session = 290 altogether. Yeah, maybe I shouldn't tip that much, but I was very satisfied and they didn't hassle me about money.

Mechelen
09-30-18, 23:16
Anyone know what happened to Emina? Short blond hair and a member of the fish tank crew. Last I saw her was in March.

Emina is at Palace.

Sirioja
09-30-18, 23:56
Emina is at Palace.Didn't see her at Palace on my 2 visits, on messe Friday and on this Saturday.

Some Sharks girls moved to Palace.

Loco Tonto
10-01-18, 11:13
So last trip was on a Tuesday. A lot has been made about whether it's a good day or not, but honestly, I think if a person has a chance, or if it's the only day available, why not. Lots of worse things to do than be bothered by chicas walking around at least half-naked.

Actually went because I was looking for a particular girl. But after a long wait, she never showed. Meanwhile of course, met lots of other girls whom I would've sessioned with, but had already left or were no longer available by that late hour. Notables were Kylie of the DDs, who gave me a salacious grin just after exiting a room, but then never came back to my seat (guess she never makes it far beyond the locker area before returning (to the locker area, LOL). Also Renata (a German stammgast told me her name. She had just finished with him, sasshayed by me, with a cheeky grin, promising to come back to look for me, but no, unfortunately did not see her again.

No Mandy, no Dina, not a lot of the "top" girls (as reviewed here), but no problem. Always is a matter of chemistry anyway, even some girls day to day are more appealing than other days. In fact, on Mondays, Wednesdays and weekends, I often am too frazzled from the wealth of options available, sort of wondering if I'm making the right choice, maybe focusing too much on optical senses, as opposed to who actually feels good to me. Ended up in the arms of Evelyn, at about 3 in the morning. (Had gone to sleep at about 10 pm), woke and club was almost empty at 2:30). It's great at closing time isn't it? There's no pressure, girls not trying to hit you up for more than just the basic, and providing good service. I was actually about to call it a night and literally on my way into the showers, when she came up to me. Very nice approach, gentle, soft pecks on the neck and ears, face. Put my hands on her buttocks (very very soft skin), and just wrapped herself around me. Got me going, even though I was about to call it quits. Agreed 50/30, took me to the mirror room. Nice, nice body. Face was OK, but just really nice body, my taste exactly, and nice and unhurried in the room (despite only 30 min). And the great thing about dessous days? Striptease! + Lapdance! Followed by all the usual. No DFK, but hey, not too concerned about that. It's a nice feeling, last person out the club, having just enjoyed an unstressful relieving session.

Oh, before I forget, for those of you who have this fetish, her body, at least from buttocks upwards (I didn't pay too much attention to her legs area, wasn't in visual most of the time), she's covered with what I would call a soft fur, very light soft fine hair, so it was a really nice experience, first time for that. Her "fur" didn't take from the experience, wasn't that she was stubbly, or hairy (feeling), but just a nice warm, soft, blondish "fur", is the best way I can describe it.

HungryStud101
10-01-18, 14:17
Prologue

Visited Sharks Yesterday. This was my third time in this club in two and a half years.

.Damn good report. Elona (She pronounced it Eloona like "E-luna" She was my favorite of my recent trip as well. Doesn't she look like Mila Kunis? I'll never for get her putting me in a high back chair that looked like a throne and saying "You are the king" and getting on her knees and sucking dick with a blowjob that I like with a finish that I like. I can't say no to Anastasia either. She is just to cute and she giggles etc. And yes I do anal with her every time. I also like Venus too. She is a good 50 E /30 min session. This report was like a flashback. Too bad about the 3 sum. Live and learn. I like them when I am getting a BJ while DFK with another girl.


BettyGood one Hank. I remember Betty. I was so close to going to the room with her. What a plain name for a FKK girl I remembered thinking. You got me thinking about Melanie. There are two Ava Taylor looking girls with glasses that hang out around the bar. Melanie and who is the other? Is it Melody?

Optimist
10-01-18, 16:23
Betty. Law School?. That would be a something of a new path for her.

I was told that the name was given to her on arrival.

Citizen Kane
10-01-18, 16:50
Betty. Law School?. That would be a something of a new path for her.

Defendant would have been more believable...

ExpatLover
10-01-18, 19:17
Spent all my day in Shark, many girls but as usual since 2 years not many for my personal requirements which are young, fresh no botox, no sili, nice skin and on top of that not too stupid. The girls were hunting like never before, I was approached by at least 20 girls, some German one but it confirms what I am writing so many times a young and clever German girl doesn't need to work in a FKK and getting fucked so many times every day by, Muslim, Indian, black. Asian. So many other and easier ways to earn money. Overall a bad day, very few sexy girls for my eyes, many veteran one, stupid also left without any session. Very few German mongers, many groups of Asian, Russian and Turkish guys I was surprised to see that some of them even started to drink a lot of alcohol around 12 AM. The LU needs a strong improvement to push me to spend my so hard earned money, spoke with several German senior mongers they also are sharing my concerns, what else food very average, sauna dirty.

Optimist
10-01-18, 19:36
Defendant would have been more believable...I wish I had thought of that LOL. To be fair, she is so far as I know very law abiding.

Tuber19
10-01-18, 21:04
Eventually I settled across from the fish tank and after a few girls dropped by I motioned to one of the hot girls I had been watching. She came over, draped herself across my lap, and looked into my eyes.

Her name is Betty..... She told me that she's also returning to Romania in October to finish law school. She asked if she earned a tip, and I said for sure.

.Good report. Betty was my favorite girl in my last 2-3 Vacations in Frankfurt. I've not been in Franakfurt since February and my hope is to see Betty in the Club. I already booked my trip for early November and I really hope Betty will be there. Good Girl.

ExpatLover
10-01-18, 21:40
Good report. Betty was my favorite girl in my last 2-3 Vacations in Frankfurt. I've not been in Franakfurt since February and my hope is to see Betty in the Club. I already booked my trip for early November and I really hope Betty will be there. Good Girl.So many girls told me 10 years back that they will finish dentist, doctor, law studies in 2 years but they are still today in the clubs and getting fucked 10 times or more every day by any type of guys.

Willing to put at least 50 euros on the table, never but never believe a prostitute or it will be the beginning of the end for you.

Nick The G
10-01-18, 21:44
That is when Anastasia drops (Ro) down beside me. Long legs, skinny, young, a face a bit like Cameron Diaz. In other words, hot. We sit a bit and chat and she is surprised that I have never tried the backdoor. I tell her that I have no interest, and she something about being open and trying new things. We agree on a standard session 100 E /1 h. In the room she talks constantly. Only the CBJ makes her quiet for a while. The topic is the advantages of the backdoor, how nice it is for both parties, etc. This pale, almost morbid looking princess is famous for brain-fucking many guys to spend money for anal. Therefore I call her Analextasia. Many month ago I went with her and she was telling me similar stories. That she has pain when fucking normally and that she would enjoy anal much more. I saved a lot of money, insisted on normal routine and since then never ever thought of going again with her. Outside the room she is nice to talk to, I agree.

Matt728
10-01-18, 21:45
Damn good report. Elona (She pronounced it Eloona like "E-luna" She was my favorite of my recent trip as well. Doesn't she look like Mila Kunis? I'll never for get her putting me in a high back chair that looked like a throne and saying "You are the king" and getting on her knees and sucking dick with a blowjob that I like with a finish that I like. I can't say no to Anastasia either. She is just to cute and she giggles etc. And yes I do anal with her every time. I also like Venus too. She is a good 50 E /30 min session. This report was like a flashback. Too bad about the 3 sum. Live and learn. I like them when I am getting a BJ while DFK with another girl.Thanks a lot HungryStud101!

It seems we have similar tastes, although I am not sure we are talking of the same girl. Eleonora pronounced it very distinctly (we discussed its complexity and she told she was given a list to pick from when she arrived). She has a few tattoos, one of the just below her right collarbone reading "Love me for who I am" or something along those lines. Also I googled Mila Kunis and had difficulties seeing the similarity (but of course they are both Eastern European types, so there are some common features).

The girl you are referring to could possibly be Ilona as this is pronounced exactly the way you describe (at least in some languages). I am curious what you think? You have an excellent taste and I want to do the chair thing!

Matt.

ExpatLover
10-01-18, 21:50
The pale princess is famous for brain-fucking guys to spend money for anal. Therefore I call her Analextasia. Many month ago I went with her and she was telling me similar stories. That she has pain when fucking normally and that she would enjoy anal much more. I saved a lot of money, insisted on normal routine and since then never ever thought of going again with her. Outside the room she is nice to talk to, I agree.The girls are using all the tricks to suck the maximum cash from naive mongers. Never but never believe any world from a prostitute or it will be the beginning of the end, a prostitute is not a normal woman and after 1 or 2 years they are very strongly affected.

HungryStud101
10-01-18, 21:56
This pale, almost morbid looking princess is famous for brain-fucking many guys to spend money for anal. Therefore I call her Analextasia. Many month ago I went with her and she was telling me similar stories. That she has pain when fucking normally and that she would enjoy anal much more. I saved a lot of money, insisted on normal routine and since then never ever thought of going again with her. Outside the room she is nice to talk to, I agree.I am cracking up. She actually told me last time after I fucked her for a good 20 minutes in the ass before she said that her ass was hurting so I finished fucking her in the pussy. She says she likes anal and she must but I think she likes the extra money more. She told Simon at closing time that he was too big for her ass. Maybe she was hurting by closing time. IDK but there is something about this girl. Like the guy from New York said she is just this Natural looking GND. She has the cutest dimples and most mischievous smile, I always pump one into her.

Gino02
10-01-18, 22:19
Some quite busy girls left to more expensive business on FRA tour, because too many girls at Sharks and not enough business, they say.

Another FRA club is quite interesting at the moment, with woman types.This is a great news! Wish the sharky girls all the best in the other Club, hope they never come back to Sharks and make us deal with their stupid inflated price scam tactics any more. Hot sexy beautiful and nice girls can easily make 1000-1500 e per day (even on a Mon or Tue or Thursday) in Sharks and Oase with standard rates, even be pre-booked for multiple days and guys almost waiting in line for days for those girls; I have seen this in my own eyes many times over the years. Being nice, genuine, passionate and honest are the keywords for the girls making tons of money in this business, in addition to being beautiful and sexy.

Hank Moody 69
10-01-18, 23:05
Betty. Law School?. That would be a something of a new path for her.

I was told that the name was given to her on arrival.I told you what she told me. I didn't say I believed it. You guys crack me up, though.

It sounds like I scored a great night for a first-timer at the club. I should mention that I mostly liked the setup they have there. Both inside and outside areas are large, and there's good viewing from most vantage points. The vibe is similar to Oceans, which I also liked. I recall some comments about it being smoky, but I managed to avoid that- at least on a Sunday.

By the way, the talk about Eleonora has me thinking she was the one I talked with a long time at the start.

Sirioja
10-01-18, 23:13
This is a great news! Wish the sharky girls all the best in the other Club, hope they never come back to Sharks and make us deal with their stupid inflated price scam tactics any more. Hot sexy beautiful and nice girls can easily make 1000-1500 e per day (even on a Mon or Tue or Thursday) in Sharks and Oase with standard rates, even be pre-booked for multiple days and guys almost waiting in line for days for those girls; I have seen this in my own eyes many times over the years. Being nice, genuine, passionate and honest are the keywords for the girls making tons of money in this business, in addition to being beautiful and sexy.I don t think girls who moved to Mainhattan or Palace were the worst behavior when they were at Sharks.

1000 per day need nearly 10 hours in room, not business I saw on my visits since June, with quite slow business, even on week ends. Many 50€ guys at Sharks, say girls.

ChillBear
10-01-18, 23:50
Anyone know what this nail the entry free promotion they have going on this coming weekend is?

HungryStud101
10-02-18, 03:12
Thanks a lot HungryStud101!

It seems we have similar tastes, although I am not sure we are talking of the same girl. Eleonora pronounced it very distinctly (we discussed its complexity and she told she was given a list to pick from when she arrived). She has a few tattoos, one of the just below her right collarbone reading "Love me for who I am" or something along those lines. Also I googled Mila Kunis and had difficulties seeing the similarity (but of course they are both Eastern European types, so there are some common features).

The girl you are referring to could possibly be Ilona as this is pronounced exactly the way you describe (at least in some languages). I am curious what you think? You have an excellent taste and I want to do the chair thing!

Matt.The girl I was with "E-loon-ah" which could be spelled any number of ways hangs out with another RO named Ava who has a sexy short hair cut with a wedge on the back. They sit on the stage on the right side of the bar I think. She was my top girl of the trip.

Gino02
10-02-18, 04:23
I don t think girls who moved to Mainhattan or Palace were the worst behavior when they were at Sharks.
That's sad. Hope the post-summer reinforcements from Romania and neighboring countries will now bring some fresh new beauties with nice behavior.


1000 per day need nearly 10 hours in room, not business I saw on my visits since June, with quite slow business, even on week ends. Many 50 guys at Sharks, say girls.Probably more like 5-6 hours per day with CIM and Anal extras? Or just extended (easy) sessions like many in Globe? I end up doing long sessions with the "right" girls, my weakness LOL.

TugGently
10-02-18, 04:34
Didn't see her at Palace on my 2 visits, on messe Friday and on this Saturday.

Some Sharks girls moved to Palace.Thanks. I figured she moved on. I found a few ladies I really enjoyed on my last trip, so I am sure I will do the same on my next one.

ExpatLover
10-02-18, 07:07
That's sad. Hope the post-summer reinforcements from Romania and neighboring countries will now bring some fresh new beauties with nice behavior.

Probably more like 5-6 hours per day with CIM and Anal extras? Or just extended (easy) sessions like many in Globe? I end up doing long sessions with the "right" girls, my weakness LOL.Each case is different, yesterday many girls had bad business most of them no clients for hours, but some have regulars or were successful with Asian guys or drunk Russian. But globally desperate faces, most of the girls looked really unhappy and bored but I need also to say that there were very few young and sexy girls present I mean natural beauties without sili, hair extension, Botox. So I left without any session.

Hugo100
10-02-18, 11:29
Can nudist clubs be addictive. Can make Sharks addictive? I think so. Whenever I am in Europe and have a time window I fly to Frankfurt and immediately to Darmstadt. I was at the club at about 1200 h. The weather was great and I enjoyed the wonderful garden. Today I had 3 great sessions. First with Issa. Late 20's. Blonde hair. A special action girl. It was a hot ride with her and her GF6 was awesome. Later, I met Amelie. About 1.65 tall, a natural beauty. With her no upselling, no discussion and pure Feeling. GF6 with deep tongue kisses. A nice number that I will repeat. Whenever I'm at the Sharks and Elif and Amalie are there, I'm booking a time with them both. I have never been disappointed. I was lucky. They were here. Since we already knew each other, we chatted first.

In the upholstery group. Afterwards it went to the room. This time I extended my session. It was excellent as always. These two beautiful sisters, who look so much like each other, are together a very cool number. They harmonize perfectly. Elif has a great big ass and.

A beautifully tanned skin. Amalia is blond and very white. But both together. The GF6 is great. Kissing - licking. Fucking - Missio, Doggy and the 2 x. A really great number. In the evening I went back to the airport. I will come back. Issa - Amalie. Elif and Amalia.

I repeat. All 4 are great horny girls.

Nick The G
10-02-18, 15:51
Maybe some of you have heard or noticed, that the girls now have to pay 5 Euro more per day for the entry into the club. Why? They are supplied by the club with unlimited amounts of condoms, which are placed in a basket on the reception desk. I don't know if that is maybe sort of a trick to use the new law situation to press even more money out of the girls.

The quality of these condoms apparently is different (thicker) compared to the condoms that most girls had bought / used before.

If you prefer thin condoms for more sensitivity, more than ever before you better bring your favoured condoms along!

ExpatLover
10-02-18, 20:05
Maybe some of you have heard or noticed, that the girls now have to pay 5 Euro more per day for the entry into the club. Why? They are supplied by the club with unlimited amounts of condoms, which are placed in a basket on the reception desk. I don't know if that is maybe sort of a trick to use the new law situation to press even more money out of the girls.

The quality of these condoms apparently is different (thicker) compared to the condoms that most girls had bought / used before.

If you prefer thin condoms for more sensitivity, more than ever before you better bring your favoured condoms along!The brand is London, yesterday they were available for free at the reception, I will never use them too small for me and the feeling is too poor but good for the girls they like feeling nothing and take the cash from us fortunately for me less and less so my savings are increasing like never.

Turgid
10-02-18, 20:27
Maybe some of you have heard or noticed, that the girls now have to pay 5 Euro more per day for the entry into the club. Why? They are supplied by the club with unlimited amounts of condoms, which are placed in a basket on the reception desk. I don't know if that is maybe sort of a trick to use the new law situation to press even more money out of the girls.

The quality of these condoms apparently is different (thicker) compared to the condoms that most girls had bought / used before.

If you prefer thin condoms for more sensitivity, more than ever before you better bring your favoured condoms along!I always bring my own condoms, Trojan Ultra Thin. Those "London" condoms the clubs provide are awful, very limited sensation so I take much longer to come with them. Suits the girls because they can upsell to an hour.

ExpatLover
10-02-18, 20:37
Can nudist clubs be addictive. Can make Sharks addictive? I think so. Whenever I am in Europe and have a time window I fly to Frankfurt and immediately to Darmstadt. I was at the club at about 1200 h. The weather was great and I enjoyed the wonderful garden. Today I had 3 great sessions. First with Issa. Late 20's. Blonde hair. A special action girl. It was a hot ride with her and her GF6 was awesome. Later, I met Amelie. About 1.65 tall, a natural beauty. With her no upselling, no discussion and pure Feeling. GF6 with deep tongue kisses. A nice number that I will repeat. Whenever I'm at the Sharks and Elif and Amalie are there, I'm booking a time with them both. I have never been disappointed. I was lucky. They were here. Since we already knew each other, we chatted first.

In the upholstery group. Afterwards it went to the room. This time I extended my session. It was excellent as always. These two beautiful sisters, who look so much like each other, are together a very cool number. They harmonize perfectly. Elif has a great big ass and.

A beautifully tanned skin. Amalia is blond and very white. But both together. The GF6 is great. Kissing - licking. Fucking - Missio, Doggy and the 2 x. A really great number. In the evening I went back to the airport. I will come back. Issa - Amalie. Elif and Amalia.

I repeat. All 4 are great horny girls.Nice to see that you enjoyed it, I think that you are the guys with some red color on the glasses.

Sirioja
10-02-18, 21:50
Thanks. I figured she moved on. I found a few ladies I really enjoyed on my last trip, so I am sure I will do the same on my next one.I enjoyed woman types Emina and Debi, no upselling with them, but didn't see Emina on my last visits at Sharks or Palace.

Sirioja
10-02-18, 21:57
That's sad. Hope the post-summer reinforcements from Romania and neighboring countries will now bring some fresh new beauties with nice behavior.

Probably more like 5-6 hours per day with CIM and Anal extras? Or just extended (easy) sessions like many in Globe? I end up doing long sessions with the "right" girls, my weakness LOL.Girls who left to other clubs, tell about cheap, everything for 50, business at Sharks, and too many girls. On my 7 visits since June, I saw most of girls not so busy, Elen often waiting at the bar when not able to catch a Asian.

I don't think many Sharks are making 1000 on a day.

Is Eleanor, small brunette sitting close to stairs to jacuzzi?

MrStev
10-02-18, 22:45
Hello!

In June and July the LU was very good.

I went with Ayleen, Viorica and Sidonia.

Top rooms for 1 hour.

Has anyone recently seen Sidonia in the club?

ExpatLover
10-03-18, 05:23
Girls who left to other clubs, tell about cheap, everything for 50, business at Sharks, and too many girls. On my 7 visits since June, I saw most of girls not so busy, Elen often waiting at the bar when not able to catch a Asian.

I don't think many Sharks are making 1000 on a day.

Is Eleanor, small brunette sitting close to stairs to jacuzzi?Probably you are right if I refer on what I saw Monday yes it looks difficult for most of the girls to make as much money as before 1000 seems only possible for few of them. Multiple reasons can explain that, less white christian senior mongers with high spending power, or if there like me we have high expectations so also able to leave without having a session. More and more girls from Romania creating a kind of mafia in the clubs controlling the price structure and creating a special atmosphere. After easy years, the management of the clubs is not able to rethink a new business model attracting new girls and new mongers, my feeling is that we are going in wrong directions preferring quantity vs quality.

Sirioja
10-03-18, 07:50
Girls who left to other clubs, tell about cheap, everything for 50, business at Sharks, and too many girls. On my 7 visits since June, I saw most of girls not so busy, Elen often waiting at the bar when not able to catch a Asian.

I don't think many Sharks are making 1000 on a day.

Is Eleanor, small brunette sitting close to stairs to jacuzzi?I mean business seemed quite slow, for girls to make 1000 per day, and I experienced on week end days, not on a Tuesday. So, many girls are leaving, looking for better business around.

Lover28X
10-03-18, 17:52
Hi,

Who is going to the crime place on Oct 19-20 and would love to join me?

ExpatLover
10-03-18, 19:23
I mean business seemed quite slow, for girls to make 1000 per day, and I experienced on week end days, not on a Tuesday. So, many girls are leaving, looking for better business around.The world is changing, the girls have to adapt or to leave for a better life in a regular job, I wish all them to succeed in it.

Matt728
10-03-18, 20:02
Girls who left to other clubs, tell about cheap, everything for 50, business at Sharks, and too many girls. On my 7 visits since June, I saw most of girls not so busy, Elen often waiting at the bar when not able to catch a Asian.

I don't think many Sharks are making 1000 on a day.

Is Eleanor, small brunette sitting close to stairs to jacuzzi?Eleonora has her spot just left of the stairs to the Jacuzzi. And she is a small brunette. Her hair tied up in kind of a messy ponytail or bun when I met her.

Matt.

Pistons
10-03-18, 23:34
I always bring my own condoms, Trojan Ultra Thin. Those "London" condoms the clubs provide are awful, very limited sensation so I take much longer to come with them. Suits the girls because they can upsell to an hour.I don't know if it suits them. If I was forced to used those baceball gloves labelled London, I would never stay an hour.

Sirioja
10-04-18, 05:20
Hi,

Who is going to the crime place on Oct 19-20 and would love to join me?Illegal in US, France, Sweden, Italy, but no crime in Germany, Switzerland, Austria. Just for pleasure, when we are able to make own pleasure. As long it s a pleasure, no addiction which is a disease not being able to control and suffering from, getting lost.

Most difficult is to find a pretty girl for own eyes, only a very few for mine.

Sirioja
10-04-18, 05:47
Eleonora has her spot just left of the stairs to the Jacuzzi. And she is a small brunette. Her hair tied up in kind of a messy ponytail or bun when I met her.

Matt.Yes, at Sharks since Summer 2017. I tried her when she started, but no repeat for me, not a interesting kisser, but friendly behavior. Far below Jeni. Hu on end of 2014, who was a so passionate kisser to death, not letting You breathing, like a woman in love, and she was happy with 100 for 1 hour, came to repeat each time. I wish she had success for her business in Buda. Little Bulgarian princess, Aylice was also a passionate kisser and sporty for sex.

Canary
10-04-18, 22:37
Just a quick question please:

On a number of occasions I've seen & occasionally partaken in sex outside of the rooms in Artemis, particularly in either of the two Kino's.

However I've been to Sharks on three occasions now and have never seen any action, of course Sharks doesn't have a Kino.

Does this happen at Sharks or is this restricted to Artemis & other clubs?

I only ask because I'm visiting Sharks again in three weeks time.

Thanks.

ExpatLover
10-05-18, 05:26
Just a quick question please:

On a number of occasions I've seen & occasionally partaken in sex outside of the rooms in Artemis, particularly in either of the two Kino's.

However I've been to Sharks on three occasions now and have never seen any action, of course Sharks doesn't have a Kino.

Does this happen at Sharks or is this restricted to Artemis & other clubs?

I only ask because I'm visiting Sharks again in three weeks time.

Thanks.It is rare mostly impossible to see before late in the night like in many clubs now.

Member #4581
10-06-18, 04:24
Just a quick question please:

On a number of occasions I've seen & occasionally partaken in sex outside of the rooms in Artemis, particularly in either of the two Kino's.

However I've been to Sharks on three occasions now and have never seen any action, of course Sharks doesn't have a Kino.

Does this happen at Sharks or is this restricted to Artemis & other clubs?

I only ask because I'm visiting Sharks again in three weeks time.

Thanks.I am not aware of any rule at Sharks that says you can't have public sex.

All you need are a willing guy and willing girl.

Most of the time, willing guy is the problem. You will always find a girl that will fuck anywhere for a buck in these places. Ask enough girls, one or the other will oblige.

You can fuck on the couches beyond the fish tank, on the red couches upstairs next to the VIP rooms, or in the garden if it is warm enough enough. And if you are gutsy, do it right in the main lounge downstairs.

One thing I noticed: public sex begets more public sex. It is one of those things that needs a momentum build. Guys see other guys doing it, get their courage up and start doing it themselves. It is tough to go first.

So, if you are interested in public sex, lead the way. Don't wait. Then others will follow you, and you can write all about it here.

Takedown
10-06-18, 05:04
Just a quick question please:

On a number of occasions I've seen & occasionally partaken in sex outside of the rooms in Artemis, particularly in either of the two Kino's.

However I've been to Sharks on three occasions now and have never seen any action, of course Sharks doesn't have a Kino.

Does this happen at Sharks or is this restricted to Artemis & other clubs?

I only ask because I'm visiting Sharks again in three weeks time.

Thanks.I differ from the previous poster who says that it is mostly the men who are reluctant. The same guests or types of guests visit Oase and Sharks but public sex happens at Oase quite frequently. Even in the garden at Sharks, I can count on one hand the number of public sessions I've seen; however, I see a half dozen or more outdoor sessions at Oase on most warm days. In addition, I see warm up blowjobs in the Kino just about every night at Oase. In at least 50 visits to Sharks, excluding underwater handjobs in the jacuzzis, I've seen a total of 5, count them, 5 public sexual acts at Sharks.

Also like the other poster said, it is not forbidden; however, the average Sharks girl is more reluctant to do so. Perhaps it is because the average girl is younger at Sharks. But the layout and busy-ness of Sharks is also not conducive in making the girl feel comfortable with public action. At Oase, the lounge is dark while the garden has cabanas 50 meters in the distance. With the open layout at Sharks, there are too many peering eyes in the lounge and the garden. At the same time, I also have only seen 2 sessions near the jacuzzi area and 2 sessions on the red couches, so I lean on the assumption that public action is just not part of the culture at Sharks and most girls just don't feel comfortable being the oddball that does it.

As for my personal experience, I've had one jacuzzi handjob in all my time at Sharks, having asked for sex at least a dozen times from various girls, most even being regulars. At Oase, I've had a few poolside blowjobs, a half dozen kino blowjobs, and a dozen sessions in the garden. It's not the men, it's the women and the culture that prevents it from happening at Sharks.

PayForIt
10-06-18, 06:52
However I've been to Sharks on three occasions now and have never seen any action, of course Sharks doesn't have a Kino.Sharks does have a kino but its sort of hidden! Past the main bar on the left as you enter the club, down the little passage on the left. It is small. I've seen guys getting blow jobs in there but never more. As you say. You see it in Artemis more often. I've seen a guy giving a girl doggie by one of the jacuzzis up the stairs and to the left before now.

If this is a turn on for you, and to each their own, go to Globe on a Tuesday night. Though I've never been (about to put that right), Tuesday is Public Sex day where the rooms are locked and unless you take a girl to a VIP room, or know a secret place (Sirioja does!) you get to have sex in public. Their website says they hand out facial masks for those who are shy! Not for me but as I say. It takes all sorts. The only other time I've seen any public sex at Sharks (other than in the garden) was on one occasion when there was a queue for rooms at the top of the main stairs and one guy clearly didn't want to wait and the girl didn't seem to mind so they literally used one of the bench seats there to get it on. And people clapped when they finished! Doubt he got a discount for not using a room! Goes to sho that Jnpr 30 is correct. There will be a girl who will do it anywhere if you ask!

Sirioja
10-06-18, 08:03
Sharks does have a kino but its sort of hidden! Past the main bar on the left as you enter the club, down the little passage on the left. It is small. I've seen guys getting blow jobs in there but never more. As you say. You see it in Artemis more often. I've seen a guy giving a girl doggie by one of the jacuzzis up the stairs and to the left before now.

If this is a turn on for you, and to each their own, go to Globe on a Tuesday night. Though I've never been (about to put that right), Tuesday is Public Sex day where the rooms are locked and unless you take a girl to a VIP room, or know a secret place (Sirioja does!) you get to have sex in public. Their website says they hand out facial masks for those who are shy! Not for me but as I say. It takes all sorts. The only other time I've seen any public sex at Sharks (other than in the garden) was on one occasion when there was a queue for rooms at the top of the main stairs and one guy clearly didn't want to wait and the girl didn't seem to mind so they literally used one of the bench seats there to get it on. And people clapped when they finished! Doubt he got a discount for not using a room! Goes to sho that Jnpr 30 is correct. There will be a girl who will do it anywhere if you ask!Before, there was a kino at Sharks. For voyeurs, Oase for public BJ in the lounge. Public sex in kino at Mainhattan, GT.

At Globe, on Tuesday until 9 pm, rooms are close except Mockbau on right of kino but not good room, or Spartacus on left, so I ask my girls to go in Spartacus and they are happy to have a little of intimacy for love in bed. Voyeurs are unhappy but I don t care, I pay to enjoy my girl, not to play a porn show. But some guys, most often not the best looking, like to play public porn, showing they are fucking a fresh beauty. Beauty and beast remake.

But can have great time at Globe on public sex day, Globe worth discovery even Tuesday is not the best casting day, but a real gap now with Germany for level. Since end of March, not far from 15 visits, and 4 really top girls for love in bed. Megan is pretty even at Globe, but can t compete in bed, but I'm happy for her.

Member #4636
10-06-18, 10:09
Just a quick question please:

On a number of occasions I've seen & occasionally partaken in sex outside of the rooms in Artemis, particularly in either of the two Kino's.

However I've been to Sharks on three occasions now and have never seen any action, of course Sharks doesn't have a Kino.

Does this happen at Sharks or is this restricted to Artemis & other clubs?

I only ask because I'm visiting Sharks again in three weeks time.

Thanks.In Mainhattan there is a huge kino where sex is taken place. I have only been once but I was given a blow job in front of others. There where about 5-6 more guys with WG but there was action on me only. I think the girl giving me a BJ had her boyfriend there as well because he kept saying something to him. This guy at the end turned the lights on for seconds to have a better view.

A WG having a cuckhold boyfriend, now that would be interesting!

Nick The G
10-06-18, 12:31
I am not aware of any rule at Sharks that says you can't have public sex.For sure it is not allowed at the bar!

HungryStud101
10-06-18, 14:41
I loved the sex out in the open at Oase. I tried to do this a few times and Ada and once Anastasia wouldn't and insisted upon a room. Hell I was out in the pool area in a lounge chair with no one around with Ada. She was trying to get me into a room. I was saying let's do it right here but she wouldn't and I wouldn't go to the room. I was up stairs on a couch alone and Anastasia got my motor running and I tried to do her on the couch and she wouldn't go for it. So I'm 0 for 2. A few of the mongers told me that this was not allowed there. I don't know but I have not been able to do it there.

ExpatLover
10-06-18, 15:02
I loved the sex out in the open at Oase. I tried to do this a few times and Ada and once Anastasia wouldn't and insisted upon a room. Hell I was out in the pool area in a lounge chair with no one around with Ada. She was trying to get me into a room. I was saying let's do it right here but she wouldn't and I wouldn't go to the room. I was up stairs on a couch alone and Anastasia got my motor running and I tried to do her on the couch and she wouldn't go for it. So I'm 0 for 2. A few of the mongers told me that this was not allowed there. I don't know but I have not been able to do it there.It is less and less allowed, some girls will refuse, also 0 interest for me the girls will never deliver their best in this kind of situation, why do you need that, perhaps to demonstrate to others that you are strong, powerful, but it is just a matter of how much you pay, when the people are strong they don't need to demonstrate it.

Member #4581
10-06-18, 15:23
I loved the sex out in the open at Oase. I tried to do this a few times and Ada and once Anastasia wouldn't and insisted upon a room. Hell I was out in the pool area in a lounge chair with no one around with Ada. She was trying to get me into a room. I was saying let's do it right here but she wouldn't and I wouldn't go to the room. I was up stairs on a couch alone and Anastasia got my motor running and I tried to do her on the couch and she wouldn't go for it. So I'm 0 for 2. A few of the mongers told me that this was not allowed there. I don't know but I have not been able to do it there.It is easy to have sex in Oase gardens. It is such a large area. Maybe the girls won't do it right by the steps or the pool but out there in one of those little beds it is easy. Many girls will agre to it. Or even in the little elevated dome next to the pool (However, no one can see you having up there and it doesn't feel like public sex. The point of public sex is to be seen. If I have sex in the middle of vast corn field in Iowa, it may be open and public but it is not public sex in my mind).

A few girls even pitched garden sex idea to me when I was out and about. I had not been in Oase in a while. Did somehow my reputation as a public sex aficionado precede me into the club? Only a few girls even recognized my face. Who knows?!

They destroyed Oase kino. It is too open and too bright now. I don't know who gave that idiotic idea to Mauro to fuck it up like that. Even upto 2017, it was not rare to see BJ in kino but now it takes more courage than I have to do it. Well, I can do BJ but not full fledged fucking. My public sex buddy Mira was up for it but I chickened out and fucked her in the garden - it was Twilight time and there was another couple fucking away on the next bed a few feet away. Still felt good to be doing it out in the middle and to be seen by a few perverts at the pool peeking obliquely (and who wanted to look more directly but were fighting that instinct because they wanted to be polite LOL).

I like the idea of forced public sex by locking the doors. That is definitely an “innovation” that Oase and Sharks can borrow from Globe. It sounds much better than having a mandatory dessous day. What would you rather see Girls forced to wear some clothes, or girls fucking in the open?? I know what my vote would be. I remember I proposed something along the same lines sometime ago in these pages except my idea was to permanently shut down all doors and make it public sex 24/7

Gino02
10-06-18, 16:07
I loved the sex out in the open at Oase. I tried to do this a few times and Ada and once Anastasia wouldn't and insisted upon a room. Hell I was out in the pool area in a lounge chair with no one around with Ada. She was trying to get me into a room. I was saying let's do it right here but she wouldn't and I wouldn't go to the room. I was up stairs on a couch alone and Anastasia got my motor running and I tried to do her on the couch and she wouldn't go for it. So I'm 0 for 2. A few of the mongers told me that this was not allowed there. I don't know but I have not been able to do it there.Damn, sorry for your bad lucks HS. Oase is still the easiest and most common for public sex in Germany IME, pretty much anywhere in the club, so hope you get it in your next visit. But Sharks is not too bad either, though YMMV depending on the girls in any club. My last good one in Sharks was with Brenni. There was some lines for rooms so we started on one of the red couches upstairs just outside the VIP rooms. Funny was when some girl started pole dancing downstairs with some loud good song, we wanted to see the dance, so went to that area couple of steps up from where you can see the pole dance stage well but also everyone downstairs can see you if they look up, AND all of a sudden Brenni goes down for a wonderful BBBJ that almost the whole club could see. And then she says fuck me right here! Who am I to say no! I think few girls and mongers even cheered for us LOL. All these right after the stupid new law got into effect! She is a keeper, I miss her man!

CityBox
10-06-18, 16:25
Can I please get a Lineup update for October?

Gino02
10-06-18, 16:26
my idea was to permanently shut down all doors and make it public sex 24/7Amen brother Jnpr30, where do we sign for the petition?

I was surprised that even after the stupid new law, most girls in Oase were totally down for public BBBJ and full on public sex in late 2017 / early 2018, when the business is slow. On one Sunday evening when there were may be maximum 10 mongers and probably about 25 WGs in the main room in Oase, most of the WGs were ready to go for full on public sex. Probably the same girls would want to go to rooms on a busy Friday or Saturday, unless you bump into a girl who actually enjoys public sex.

I think that most of these FKK girls can enjoy public sex, as they are full naked in public so much of their time anyway. If they don't like being naked in public all the time, they could easily work as escorts or in private houses or some non-naked places in NRW etc. One of my ex FKK wife used to say the same too LOL.

Canary
10-06-18, 20:55
Sharks does have a kino but its sort of hidden! Past the main bar on the left as you enter the club, down the little passage on the left. It is small. I've seen guys getting blow jobs in there but never more. As you say. You see it in Artemis more often. If there is a Kino in Sharks it must be very well hidden as I've never seen it!

I'm at Sharks on 27th October so if I do observe any sex outside the room I will report back.

Most bizarrely I find it more embarrassing to ask a girl whether she performs outside the room rather than actually doing the deed, hence I've never asked at Sharks. Can't comment on Oasis as I've only been there once.

However some girls at Artemis have either suggested it to me or just gone ahead without asking me, either in the Kino or inside one of the tents in the main bar.

Obviously in the summer it's more conducive outside but my winter visits (aside from Artemis) have rarely seen this activity inside.

If anyone can recommend a lady at Sharks I would be interested to know.

Thanks.

Nick The G
10-07-18, 00:42
If there is a Kino in Sharks it must be very well hidden as I've never seen it!Well Sharks, the whole place is a Kino! Just sit back and watch the big screen.

HungryStud101
10-07-18, 04:52
Damn, sorry for your bad lucks HS. Oase is still the easiest and most common for public sex in Germany IME, pretty much anywhere in the club, so hope you get it in your next visit. But Sharks is not too bad either, though YMMV depending on the girls in any club. My last good one in Sharks was with Brenni. There was some lines for rooms so we started on one of the red couches upstairs just outside the VIP rooms. Funny was when some girl started pole dancing downstairs with some loud good song, we wanted to see the dance, so went to that area couple of steps up from where you can see the pole dance stage well but also everyone downstairs can see you if they look up, AND all of a sudden Brenni goes down for a wonderful BBBJ that almost the whole club could see. And then she says fuck me right here! Who am I to say no! I think few girls and mongers even cheered for us LOL. All these right after the stupid new law got into effect! She is a keeper, I miss her man!I don't know why but I got a visceral thrill out of my public sex experiences at Oase. There is just something about the spontaneity when the girl finds you lounging and then gets you going and you fuck right there in the club. I remember old timers at Oase telling me "Do have sex in public or the Kino. The girls are advertising their skills and you will be guaranteed a good session. " It seems less likely for me at Sharks. Yes, Oase is OK seems much better for public sex.

Sirioja
10-07-18, 08:33
If there is a Kino in Sharks it must be very well hidden as I've never seen it!

I'm at Sharks on 27th October so if I do observe any sex outside the room I will report back.

Most bizarrely I find it more embarrassing to ask a girl whether she performs outside the room rather than actually doing the deed, hence I've never asked at Sharks. Can't comment on Oasis as I've only been there once.

However some girls at Artemis have either suggested it to me or just gone ahead without asking me, either in the Kino or inside one of the tents in the main bar.

Obviously in the summer it's more conducive outside but my winter visits (aside from Artemis) have rarely seen this activity inside.

If anyone can recommend a lady at Sharks I would be interested to know.

Thanks.Before was a kino, but now small rooms.

For those who need to perform public sex to be excited to enjoy, for 130€. You can fuck a beauty on pole podium in the center of the lounge at Globe, any day, not only on Tuesday. If she thinks You are just money like most of clients, she will suck You and You can fuck her for 30 full mn, but she will say to some: don t treat me like this, not You. My regulars always ask me not to go for public sex, no problem, I prefer love in bed, I'm not a frustrated playing porn actor.

McAdonis
10-07-18, 15:23
Also like the other poster said, it is not forbidden; however, the average Sharks girl is more reluctant to do so. Perhaps it is because the average girl is younger at Sharks. But the layout and busy-ness of Sharks is also not conducive in making the girl feel comfortable with public action. At Oase, the lounge is dark while the garden has cabanas 50 meters in the distance. With the open layout at Sharks, there are too many peering eyes in the lounge and the garden. At the same time, I also have only seen 2 sessions near the jacuzzi area and 2 sessions on the red couches, so I lean on the assumption that public action is just not part of the culture at Sharks and most girls just don't feel comfortable being the oddball that does it.It could be that the WGs don't want voyeurs to get a free show. In other words, claiming to be "shy" might just be an excuse. The WGs might just want to maximize their monetization opportunities.

Let me explain. Some mongers' fetish is to be a voyeur. So if these men got free shows (close-up and in proper lighting), they would never need to pay a WG. Once, when I was at a club where public sex is discouraged, a fellow monger paid for my session while he watched. Since there was two male customers in the room, the WG received 100 EUR for the 30 minutes of work. Essentially I could see him out of the corner of my eye, masturbating. At one point, when I was on my knees doing her doggy, he stood up and was staring over my shoulder (but polite enough to keep one and half arms length away).

The same WG who claims to be shy. I bet if ten mongers wanted to drag her into a room while only one of them fucked, she would have no problem. That is 500 EUR!

Takedown
10-07-18, 16:08
It could be that the WGs don't want voyeurs to get a free show. In other words, claiming to be "shy" might just be an excuse. The WGs might just want to maximize their monetization opportunities.

Let me explain. Some mongers' fetish is to be a voyeur. But that logic is not in line with the fact that it happens at Oase quite frequently, a place where girls want to maximize their monetization opportunities even more so than at Sharks.

MaxSquatter
10-07-18, 18:50
My touring that is. Went to sharks today (Sunday), Friday and Wednesday. Mostly unpleasant. The women are pushy and rush everything. I have been to Artemis Berlin and Babylon Hamburg and never was it so creepy. The girls mostly look and act hardened. Too much makeup and burned up dyed hair. Rare exceptions include sweet German girl Mandy and brown haired Moldovan girl (natural and pretty). I left with 1,500 euros I had planned to spend. Women are their own worst nightmares. Be sweet and fun and I will repeat and spend more.

McAdonis
10-07-18, 20:39
But that logic is not in line with the fact that it happens at Oase quite frequently, a place where girls want to maximize their monetization opportunities even more so than at Sharks.The thought only came to mind after I read your post. You seem to imply that the "layout and busy-ness" would mean more peering eyes at Sharks. As opposed to at Oase, where you report that public sex happens primarily in the darkness of the kino or 50 meters away in the garden. So while Oase WGs allow public sex to happen, they are never performing public sex in well-lit, congested areas, where voyeurs would get a clear view of the action. Are you now saying that Oase WGs allow non-paying spectators to have front-row seats to the action and in clear light? If so, I would retract my theory.

It could also be that I don't fully understand how voyeurs get off. If the action is happening in the dark five meters away and the voyeur can't see the penis clearly penetrating the vagina, I don't think the voyeur gets turned on. Likewise, when the voyeur is 50 meters away and can't see the penis clearly penetrating the vagina. So if a voyeur attends Oase and wants to get his "fix", he is still forced to pay the WG for the privilege of being the third person in the room with an up-close and personal view of the action.

Sirioja
10-07-18, 21:33
My touring that is. Went to sharks today (Sunday), Friday and Wednesday. Mostly unpleasant. The women are pushy and rush everything. I have been to Artemis Berlin and Babylon Hamburg and never was it so creepy. The girls mostly look and act hardened. Too much makeup and burned up dyed hair. Rare exceptions include sweet German girl Mandy and brown haired Moldovan girl (natural and pretty). I left with 1,500 euros I had planned to spend. Women are their own worst nightmares. Be sweet and fun and I will repeat and spend more.Few smart girls don't need to upsell to make good business. Many low level girls lose business. We get the money, we can choose. Big Sharks or Oase are only small part of FKK land. Fortunately, even rare, but can still find very few good girls.

Pistons
10-08-18, 01:11
Well Sharks, the whole place is a Kino! Just sit back and watch the big screen.I am just not sure he was looking for a PG-13 flick.

Takedown
10-08-18, 02:19
Of course every shy girl has her price for public action, just like every girl probably has an AO price. Or every guy has a gay sex price. Mine is $100 million. But because there is a price, that does not mean insecurity is not a factor. Same goes for the gangbang scenario.

As for Oase girls, I did mention the handful of poolside blowjobs. All 50 euro, right out in the open sun. I've never seen that by the Sharks pool. Well, once at night when the only people I saw was a guy on a float and the girl in water.

By layout I meant the bright lounge area and smaller garden; however, there are plenty of hidden areas at Sharks and they also don't get used. Upstairs Jacuzzi area is dark and is not used. The secluded red couches by the VIP area is also not used. And when it was there, there was hardly any action in the former kino at Sharks.

That is why I believe the lack of public action culture is the main reason.


The thought only came to mind after I read your post. You seem to imply that the "layout and busy-ness" would mean more peering eyes at Sharks. As opposed to at Oase, where you report that public sex happens primarily in the darkness of the kino or 50 meters away in the garden. So while Oase WGs allow public sex to happen, they are never performing public sex in well-lit, congested areas, where voyeurs would get a clear view of the action. Are you now saying that Oase WGs allow non-paying spectators to have front-row seats to the action and in clear light? If so, I would retract my theory.

It could also be that I don't fully understand how voyeurs get off. If the action is happening in the dark five meters away and the voyeur can't see the penis clearly penetrating the vagina, I don't think the voyeur gets turned on. Likewise, when the voyeur is 50 meters away and can't see the penis clearly penetrating the vagina. So if a voyeur attends Oase and wants to get his "fix", he is still forced to pay the WG for the privilege of being the third person in the room with an up-close and personal view of the action.

ExpatLover
10-08-18, 02:28
My touring that is. Went to sharks today (Sunday), Friday and Wednesday. Mostly unpleasant. The women are pushy and rush everything. I have been to Artemis Berlin and Babylon Hamburg and never was it so creepy. The girls mostly look and act hardened. Too much makeup and burned up dyed hair. Rare exceptions include sweet German girl Mandy and brown haired Moldovan girl (natural and pretty). I left with 1,500 euros I had planned to spend. Women are their own worst nightmares. Be sweet and fun and I will repeat and spend more.Was also the same case for me this week, very few natural beauties, so many veteran girls willing to suck my cash but I left without any session.

Gino02
10-08-18, 04:09
Of course every shy girl has her price for public action, just like every girl probably has an AO price. Or every guy has a gay sex price. Mine is $100 million. But because there is a price, that does not mean insecurity is not a factor. Same goes for the gangbang scenario.

As for Oase girls, I did mention the handful of poolside blowjobs. All 50 euro, right out in the open sun. I've never seen that by the Sharks pool. Well, once at night when the only people I saw was a guy on a float and the girl in water.

By layout I meant the bright lounge area and smaller garden; however, there are plenty of hidden areas at Sharks and they also don't get used. Upstairs Jacuzzi area is dark and is not used. The secluded red couches by the VIP area is also not used. And when it was there, there was hardly any action in the former kino at Sharks.

That is why I believe the lack of public action culture is the main reason.I just remembered this, sorry. Sandra DE had no problem going full on public sex with CIM finish on a bed outside next to the pool, couple of years back, about 3-4pm on a summer Sunday if my memory is half-working. I just had to suggest that, she was like sure that would be fun! LOL. No upcharge either. Hopefully some other mongers got lucky like that too.

RoyPunter
10-08-18, 04:42
My report for my day at Sharks.

One if the great things I noticed about Sharks is that they provide Hair Gel, which helps greatly with my game. Not sure why Oase or any of the other clubs don't provide this.

Anyway, I got to Sharks around 12 pm on a Saturday. Lineup was not bad, but I decided to sit around, until someone really got my motors running. Waited till about 3 pm eating the food and relaxing. Then saw Francesca walk into the club. Attraction at first sight. She is really tall, maybe 6 2. Waited around in the area to the left of the bar and finally saw her coming out. Grabbed her attention and sat down with her. Agreed to go to the room for E100 for 1 hour. We took one of the rooms upstairs and kept the window open since it was Hot. She told me to wait for a couple of minutes while she went to freshen up. I got some time to get my little guy up. When she came back in she saw me hard and I think got a little turned on by it. Went straight to BBBJ, then some pussy licking, then standing doggy. Since she is so tall, it was a little hard to be comfortable. Switched to doggy on the bed, this went on for 10 minutes and was great. She is a great moaner. Finished in missionary. We still had about 20 minutes to go. Cleaned up and she asked me if I wanted to go again. She put a tissue on my cock and I teased her like I was going to enter her without any protection. Of course I didn't, but it was arousing to be held back by her legs. I couldn't get him up again in those 20 minutes. She spent the remaining time dancing provocatively and grinding me. For the rest of the evening, we made eye contact many times and she would check how I was doing. I will definitely repeat. She told me she was 27, but she looked much younger. I've also never seen her name mentioned on this forum, which is unusual since she seems like the girl every man would be lining up for. She felt like a great GFE, which is something I was looking for.

I also took another girl to the room, but I forget her name. It wasn't great, but probably because I was done with my 1 pop for the day.

MaxSquatter
10-08-18, 04:44
I worry that it is like this most everywhere now. Too many men and women in the club may have something to do with the rushed nature of the whole thing. Rushing they can get quick money but rarely a repeat. Not sure if this can be fixed. Perhaps a small club would be better?


Few smart girls don't need to upsell to make good business. Many low level girls lose business. We get the money, we can choose. Big Sharks or Oase are only small part of FKK land. Fortunately, even rare, but can still find very few good girls.

Sirioja
10-08-18, 07:01
I worry that it is like this most everywhere now. Too many men and women in the club may have something to do with the rushed nature of the whole thing. Rushing they can get quick money but rarely a repeat. Not sure if this can be fixed. Perhaps a small club would be better?Nothing to do with the club, Sharks is good for me, to eat, good breakfast, to drink apple juice as knows blondie, I like the garden, they play Formula 1 for me, but all is about level and behavior of the girls. On mid June, I discovered a really classy and elegant sophisticated Romanian on a Saturday, I returned on Sunday and drove from Paris for her on next Friday. Unfortunately she didn't like Sharks business with everything for 50 or even 100, as she said: she was not motivated for this level of business, but she always gave me a great welcome, inviting me to take breakfast with her, when I usually eat my breakfast walking around, she then stopped to speak with her friend, to speak with me. She stayed only 2 weeks, 2 week ends, but we had 3 rooms, each for 1 h for 100, no upselling, no question about time. She was not a performer in room, but I would have driven to Sharks every week end for her, for her charm and kindness, and I enjoyed our sweet sex, maybe she enjoyed orgasmus to welcome me for only 100/ room. When too many guys need to tell me, I never read nor was told about her, same than about Madi2 or Florentina who were the classiest seen since 1 year. Madi2 did upsell, so no repeat, no upselling with Florentina. Ro nor T. Ro, so we repeated, but I may not have same eyes than most of guys, to find classy, sophisticated, woman types, but I know I feel who they are, just by the way they look at me.

When I returned after she left, real lack of charm and elegance, even Svenja or Viorica are enthusiastic in bed, like Mandi, but this is not enough to drive 1000 kms for. But I can understand guys who want to repeat with Mandi or Viorica who have good behavior and honest for club rate, when many girls only worth a one shot, sometimes even shortened to 30 mn, rather than extended when You feel good in bed with this girl.

Palace casting is more interesting for me for looks, but upselling land with German beauties: Joana, Julia, but at least some German beauties.

For sure Globe, but also NRW and YY NL are higher level for me for woman types I like.

Sharks and Oase are for business for tourists level, even can sometimes find a good girl, 3 elegant woman types found at Sharks since September 2016, 0 found at Oase, maybe Adela could become, since end of 2015. Before I used to visit weekly, now 1 visit every 3 months is enough. These low level girls can cry about lack of business, I don t care, I know they don t deserve my money, when I can find or build for my tastes great, lovely girls, and then repeat weekly with.

Tedesco
10-08-18, 07:17
Sandra DE had no problem going full on public sex......couple of years back...Couple of years ago. I remember the great times we all had until 2013 depending on the development of each club.

ExpatLover
10-08-18, 07:20
I worry that it is like this most everywhere now. Too many men and women in the club may have something to do with the rushed nature of the whole thing. Rushing they can get quick money but rarely a repeat. Not sure if this can be fixed. Perhaps a small club would be better?Yes service in a smaller club is better but very very difficult to find a very beautiful girl if any she will be fucked so many times in several weeks that her behavior will change and also her outlook, mostly you will find veteran girls who need to give great service to earn their money.

Takedown
10-08-18, 16:29
I just remembered this, sorry. Sandra DE had no problem going full on public sex with CIM finish on a bed outside next to the pool, couple of years back, about 3-4pm on a summer Sunday if my memory is half-working. I just had to suggest that, she was like sure that would be fun! LOL. No upcharge either. Hopefully some other mongers got lucky like that too.This makes me sad. Sandra was one of the all time greats and I never tried public action thing with her. She was the only girl that my ex-Sharks wife would speak kindly of, rare for a Romanian WG speaking about a German WG.

Kosher Kowboy
10-08-18, 19:21
Then saw Francesca walk into the club. Attraction at first sight. She is really tall, maybe 6 2. Waited around in the area to the left of the bar and finally saw her coming out. Grabbed her attention and sat down with her. I've also never seen her name mentioned on this forum, which is unusual since she seems like the girl every man would be lining up for. Glad you enjoyed your time. I think I reviewed her many months ago, excellent time and good choice. Maybe 6'2 in heels ( but probably shorter) but think more like middle to upper 5 foot something. I think there might be two of these Francesca's maybe not, the one I went with and would repeat if I ever end up back at Sharks sat in the same section as Patrizia but on that couch that faces the stairwell up to the hot tubs and igloos.

McAdonis
10-09-18, 01:55
As for Oase girls, I did mention the handful of poolside blowjobs. All 50 euro, right out in the open sun. I've never seen that by the Sharks pool.How congested was it when you got or observed daylight poolside blowjobs? Was it like Saturday at 2 pm? Like one guy to the lounger to your right and one guy to the lounger to your left? How close was the closest monger to you?

Back in 2010, I went to Palace on the day of a party by accident. At the time, the price of entry at Palace was 75 EUR, 70 EUR at Oase, and World I can't remember. I don't think Sharks and Manhattan had opened yet. I probably arrived Palace at 9 pm on a Saturday. I didn't want to tally 145 EUR in entry fees, especially for not a full day of clubbing.

So I settled for Bulgarian Maggie who was not quite my look. We had to do CIM in the smoker lounge. Fully lit. Small room. Two guys seated directly across from us. Maybe three arm lengths away. Kinda felt like I was in the London Underground tube. They were chatting but glancing over periodically because we were directly in front of them. They winked and smiled a few times. I managed to finish, but it was too distracting for me.

Takedown
10-09-18, 06:46
How congested was it when you got or observed daylight poolside blowjobs? Was it like Saturday at 2 pm? Like one guy to the lounger to your right and one guy to the lounger to your left? How close was the closest monger to you?.All 3 of my poolside BJs were between 1 pm and 5 pm. The first was probably the most visible. Probably a dozen guys and a dozen girls in and around the pool with no one right next to me but the location was key. I was sitting at the first lawn chair after you walk up the steps to get outside. Guys kept a distance and casually glanced, a mutual Asian monger we know from Sweden actually walked by and gave me a head nod. Girls were walking back and forth from the outdoor dining area and back inside with some of them cheering their comrade on, "Go Vicky!" One even stopped to push her head up and down my cock.

The other two times were not quite as memorable because I was sitting on the left side of the pool when looking from the relax room but those instances probably had as much traffic walking by as the first instance.

BigBuddy69
10-09-18, 11:51
About Viorica, one of my french friends picked her last week and they agreed on 60 € for 30 minutes, with DATY and DFK.

Samson Monger
10-09-18, 15:31
Any citings of red headed Melissa in a while?

Tedesco
10-09-18, 19:08
About Viorica, one of my french friends picked her last week and they agreed on 60 for 30 minutes, with DATY and DFK.That's 10 for the slot machine.

ExpatLover
10-09-18, 19:26
That's 10 for the slot machine.I am really wondering where this forum is going if now we are speaking about 10 euros.

Gino02
10-10-18, 18:00
All 3 of my poolside BJs were between 1 pm and 5 pm. The first was probably the most visible. Probably a dozen guys and a dozen girls in and around the pool with no one right next to me but the location was key. I was sitting at the first lawn chair after you walk up the steps to get outside. Guys kept a distance and casually glanced, a mutual Asian monger we know from Sweden actually walked by and gave me a head nod. Girls were walking back and forth from the outdoor dining area and back inside with some of them cheering their comrade on, "Go Vicky!" One even stopped to push her head up and down my cock.

The other two times were not quite as memorable because I was sitting on the left side of the pool when looking from the relax room but those instances probably had as much traffic walking by as the first instance.Nice job TD! Were these poolside BJs the way HungryStud and most of us like? Wink wink!

ExpatLover
10-10-18, 18:21
How congested was it when you got or observed daylight poolside blowjobs? Was it like Saturday at 2 pm? Like one guy to the lounger to your right and one guy to the lounger to your left? How close was the closest monger to you?

Back in 2010, I went to Palace on the day of a party by accident. At the time, the price of entry at Palace was 75 EUR, 70 EUR at Oase, and World I can't remember. I don't think Sharks and Manhattan had opened yet. I probably arrived Palace at 9 pm on a Saturday. I didn't want to tally 145 EUR in entry fees, especially for not a full day of clubbing.

So I settled for Bulgarian Maggie who was not quite my look. We had to do CIM in the smoker lounge. Fully lit. Small room. Two guys seated directly across from us. Maybe three arm lengths away. Kinda felt like I was in the London Underground tube. They were chatting but glancing over periodically because we were directly in front of them. They winked and smiled a few times. I managed to finish, but it was too distracting for me.Is it so interesting to know if the guy was at 1 meter or 5 meter, really I am wondering where this forum is going.

Canary
10-10-18, 18:57
If there is a Kino in Sharks it must be very well hidden as I've never seen it!

I'm at Sharks on 27th October so if I do observe any sex outside the room I will report back.

Most bizarrely I find it more embarrassing to ask a girl whether she performs outside the room rather than actually doing the deed, hence I've never asked at Sharks. Can't comment on Oasis as I've only been there once.

However some girls at Artemis have either suggested it to me or just gone ahead without asking me, either in the Kino or inside one of the tents in the main bar.

Obviously in the summer it's more conducive outside but my winter visits (aside from Artemis) have rarely seen this activity inside.

If anyone can recommend a lady at Sharks I would be interested to know.

Thanks.Thanks to all that contributed to this issue.

It seems that it wasn't unusual in my previous visits to Sharks to not see (or if I wanted, partake) in any public sex. However I live in hope that on 26th October I might just strike lucky?

If not there is a small chance I might be back at my favourite haunt Artemis in November where the action certainly does happen.

MrStev
10-10-18, 19:36
About Viorica, one of my french friends picked her last week and they agreed on 60 for 30 minutes, with DATY and DFK.IMHO Viorica, RO in one of the best girl in Sharks about room experience with 50 E. Another girl is Ariella, Bul. Not beaituful but GFE.

For 1 hour one of the best is Ayleen. Another normal room for 50 E are with Annika, Ro,Rosè,Ro.

One of my favourite is Sidonia, RO but but I do not know if he's present in the club this month.

Lover28X
10-10-18, 22:57
So, I'm back to Frankfurt next week. And thinking Sharks is definitively a place I would repeat, should I check-out Palace? I heard the service and line-up is much better other there?

Would you recommend or say better stay at Sharks only?

PayForIt
10-11-18, 01:41
Thanks to all that contributed to this issue.

It seems that it wasn't unusual in my previous visits to Sharks to not see (or if I wanted, partake) in any public sex. However I live in hope that on 26th October I might just strike lucky?

If not there is a small chance I might be back at my favourite haunt Artemis in November where the action certainly does happen.I was at Sharks today and need to correct my previous error. The kino that was located in the passageway to the left of the bar has gone. Replaced by lots of small "rooms" no doubt due to occasional wait times.

No action today in public. You really should go to Globe on a Tuesday if you like that sort of thing. I was there for "public sex" day yesterday. Not my thing but many voyeurs watching guys fuck and get BBBJs in open spaces. I too like Artemis but have only been once in 2018 - preferrring Sharks where the professional massage by Pia is amazing. Not the best reason to go and of course the LU helps! I like Artemis and its layout.

First time for me on a Wednesday today. Why does a mere €15 entry discount make all the difference? It was a sausage fest and a lot of girls I'the never seen before were there as well as all of the usuals though alas no Helen and no Cleo (ex Globe. Currently home in Ro). So for the second night running ended up with a German girl. This time Kimberley. Brunette - sits with the German crew to the left of the bar. Pretty girl has only been working 5 months. Liked her and her service was very good.

Nice to meet Lathano from ISG. Good chat at the bar. Didn't see you again as our rooms clearly clashed. PM me and I'll continue our discussion.

Was sad to say goodbye to Sharks. Probably my last visit in 2018 though not if I can help it. Had some great times here this year. More than ever and will undoubtedly return. It is for me unrivalled in Frankfurt (World a close second).

Lanthano
10-11-18, 04:21
Came to Sharks around 2 pm, stayed until 3 am, mostly to relax and use the facilities this time.

The visit was fine, as was my session with Ada, a 22 yo girl with glasses who I went with just so not to leave without having at least one session. BJ skills were great. Missionary and doggy. I came. End of story. Nothing spectacular however gave a proper service and I wasn't bursting for it either. She had caught my eye a few times, mostly because she looks like my ex-girlfriend's sister who I was attracted to.

I think I preferred to take it easy this visit rather than going on a blowout. The girls were about the same. I didn't actively go looking for my 50 e with BBBJs and kissing, though I got several (at least 5) refusals, to the point that I would have left without a session, push comes to shove, anyway. I can't fathom spending 100 e on a session, as I still do not think there is a way it could be worth it.

The girls' usual antics: Song and dance to get you to ask for something you don't really want (Anastasia), two prong assault for a threesome.

But I still get the impression that there are enough new girls coming to Sharks who based on their girlfriend's recommendation, think easy money is to be had by upselling, in or out of the room. Again, plenty of people are up to spend upwards of 100 e on a session, but I really am not.

Girl-guy ratio was fantastic as of 4 pm (2:1 I estimate), then fizzled out completely by 2 am as the girls left and latecomers arrived (why bother arriving 2 hours before closing time? Even with the reduced entry). Didn't feel like another session so I left early.

Sharks delivers however in facilities, food and atmosphere which keeps me coming back. There's always something that makes the evening memorable. However I suppose not every visit is going to blow me away like the first few.

As mentioned below, I had the pleasure of shortly meeting fellow forum member PayforIt by pure chance, who was enjoying his time there after his recent trip to Globe.

HungryStud101
10-11-18, 05:38
Thanks for the nice report as always. I have a similar attraction to Ada. She has that GND look and I love her complexion and glasses. I consider her a notch below some of the more popular girls but certainly doable. We almost did the deed last time. I was on a lounge chair on the other side of the pool in a hidden spot really. I was laying there with my eyes closed and she knelt beside me and started to fondle my penis. I wanted to do her right there and she wouldn't. She wanted me to go in one of the tents or maybe they were cabins just a few feet away. I wanted a 50 E /30 min session with a BJ that I like and DFK. She wouldn't do it for 50 E and wanted 100 E and insisted on the cabins. So I sent her away and she was in a bit of a huff (She didn't twist my cock like Angelina / Olympia would of but she wasn't happy).

So I am wondering, did you have to pay the 100 E for DFK and a BJ that most monger like? She wouldn't budge for me. I would of probably sessioned with her if she would have. She sure got my motor running.

Yes, I do like the club as well.


Came to Sharks around 2 pm, stayed until 3 am, mostly to relax and use the facilities this time.

The visit was fine, as was my session with Ada, a 22 yo girl with glasses who I went with just so not to leave without having at least one session. BJ skills were great. Missionary and doggy. I came. End of story. Nothing spectacular however gave a proper service and I wasn't bursting for it either. She had caught my eye a few times, mostly because she looks like my ex-girlfriend's sister who I was attracted to.

Lanthano
10-11-18, 11:58
Thanks for the nice report as always. I have a similar attraction to Ada. She has that GND look and I love her complexion and glasses. I consider her a notch below some of the more popular girls but certainly doable. We almost did the deed last time. I was on a lounge chair on the other side of the pool in a hidden spot really. I was laying there with my eyes closed and she knelt beside me and started to fondle my penis. I wanted to do her right there and she wouldn't. She wanted me to go in one of the tents or maybe they were cabins just a few feet away. I wanted a 50 E /30 min session with a BJ that I like and DFK. She wouldn't do it for 50 E and wanted 100 E and insisted on the cabins. So I sent her away and she was in a bit of a huff (She didn't twist my cock like Angelina / Olympia would of but she wasn't happy).

So I am wondering, did you have to pay the 100 E for DFK and a BJ that most monger like? She wouldn't budge for me. I would of probably sessioned with her if she would have. She sure got my motor running.

Yes, I do like the club as well.Same place. I just asked her to go to another room which she did. Kissing but not DFK. The other thing you can guess.

I never pay more than 50 e for a session. Never have even done an hour session.

Yeah I agree with your analysis. However the "more popular girls" I wasn't in the mood to further approach and negociate with today and it was more just to have a session with a new girl.

I must say that apart from Ariella, I didn't see many of my previous SPs. Every time I go there seems to be new faces and some old faces from elsewhere, like Angelina, boxom half-Colombian who I met in World. Never sessioned with her as she didn't agree to my conditions last time, which possibly makes it a bad sign that she's left World for here.

HungryStud101
10-11-18, 12:32
Every time I go there seems to be new faces and some old faces from elsewhere, like Angelina, boxom half-Colombian who I met in World. Never sessioned with her as she didn't agree to my conditions last time, which possibly makes it a bad sign that she's left World for here.The Colombian is one of my favorites but you are correct she is one of the several 100 E /30 minute girls for a GFE date and she is not going for less. I would bet that it doesn't matter that you are so local that you were born on the premises. One thing Angelina did was spray my hands (and her hands) with an anti-bacterial so digits could go anywhere.

Tedesco
10-11-18, 16:48
I must say that apart from Ariella, I didn't see many of my previous SPs.Ariella meanwhile seems to become the safe bet for more and more customers. On Monday she even got a full day booking. I like her as her service is always on a high level without complaining or asking for additional features. And although I am only a 50 Euro guy she always joins me for a couple of minutes having some talks.

Tedesco
10-11-18, 16:49
Anyone knows if Anjelica from Lithunia (MILF) is this week in Sharks? Greeting.On Monday she was there.

Momosa
10-11-18, 17:35
Hey!

I've seen and read a lot in the past 2 days and I've seen the rates post with what should be included in a 50 e /30 m rate. I've never been to am FKK and I've read that I shouldn't tell them that I'm new to even that FKK so I won't get ripped off. My question is. How do you negotiate? I mean if all girls come up and demand 100 for DFK DATY etc and you turn them down (how do you say no so they don't get offended or cut you off totally?

When do you talk prices? I mean you talk with her first and I don't want to be known to the girls that I'm just there to chat and later turn them all down and then the day is ruined etc. Like many other people I am not made of gold so of course I would like to go for the standard rate. On RLD windows in Amsterdam you just start with name, nationality then bam 50 s&f and done. (Some even starts with that).

In privehuise its all set and done when you walk in so this is going to be very new to me.

Also one last question. I've seen that a lot of people say there's lots of upselling in the FKK mainly in Mainhatten and sharks. Why is that and which has less upselling?

Thanks guys!

LaBambaBoy
10-11-18, 19:22
The visit was fine, as was my session with Ada, a 22 yo girl with glasses who I went with just so not to leave without having at least one session. BJ skills were great. Missionary and doggy. I came. End of story. Nothing spectacular however gave a proper service and I wasn't bursting for it either. She had caught my eye a few times, mostly because she looks like my ex-girlfriend's sister who I was attracted to.
That was my experience with Ada as well; not exceptional, but above average and pleasant. And very cute. If she was a slight bit. Bubblier and flirty? I think she could be quite a performer.

Oregon97
10-11-18, 20:04
It was a sausage fest and a lot of girls I'the never seen before were there as well as all of the usuals though alas no Helen and no Cleo (ex Globe. Currently home in Ro). So for the second night running ended up with a German girl. This time Kimberley. .Is Cleo from Globe now at Sharks or another girl now named Cleo at Sharks?

Loco Tonto
10-11-18, 20:39
On Monday she was there.If she's the GILF, with really large butt, boobs, blonde, looks about 40+/50, likes to sit near / next to Mandy / Dina, she was there on Sunday past too. And also Thursday, Tuesday, etc. She keeps hounding me.

HungryStud101
10-11-18, 21:10
Is Cleo from Globe now at Sharks or another girl now named Cleo at Sharks?I tried to find her based on Payforit's report. I went to the ladies up at the front desk and asked for help. They had no idea of who she was and they had no interest in helping me. Maybe they have so many girls and this is a near impossible task but I think those ladies could be a little more helpful and a little more customer service oriented.

Nick The G
10-11-18, 21:47
Anyone knows if Anjelica from Lithunia (MILF) is this week in Sharks? Greeting.
She was there on Wednesday too!
I didn't see Cleo on Wednesday.

XDrive76
10-11-18, 23:07
If she's the GILF, with really large butt, boobs, blonde, looks about 40+/50, likes to sit near / next to Mandy / Dina, she was there on Sunday past too. And also Thursday, Tuesday, etc. She keeps hounding me.And just to know: where are Mandy / Dina normally sitting?

DaWong949
10-11-18, 23:35
I tried to find her based on Payforit's report. I went to the ladies up at the front desk and asked for help. They had no idea of who she was and they had no interest in helping me. Maybe they have so many girls and this is a near impossible task but I think those ladies could be a little more helpful and a little more customer service oriented.You wish! Those ladies have no interest except taking your entry fee. Zero customer service.

Gino02
10-12-18, 00:05
Hey!

I've seen and read a lot in the past 2 days and I've seen the rates post with what should be included in a 50 e /30 m rate. I've never been to am FKK and I've read that I shouldn't tell them that I'm new to even that FKK so I won't get ripped off. My question is. How do you negotiate? I mean if all girls come up and demand 100 for DFK DATY etc and you turn them down (how do you say no so they don't get offended or cut you off totally?

When do you talk prices? I mean you talk with her first and I don't want to be known to the girls that I'm just there to chat and later turn them all down and then the day is ruined etc. Like many other people I am not made of gold so of course I would like to go for the standard rate. On RLD windows in Amsterdam you just start with name, nationality then bam 50 s&f and done. (Some even starts with that).

In privehuise its all set and done when you walk in so this is going to be very new to me.

Also one last question. I've seen that a lot of people say there's lots of upselling in the FKK mainly in Mainhatten and sharks. Why is that and which has less upselling?

Thanks guys!Well Momosa, it's totally up to you how you negotiate and how much you want to pay for what services. As a guideline, you can read these two posts (unless you have already read them), and use the information as you may please:

1) Chemistry and art of negotiations. Post #7576 in Artemis forum (http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2588-FKK-Artemis-Berlin&p=1702812&viewfull=1#post1702812).

2) Standard rates in German FKKs. Post #10677 in Palace forum (http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1867-FKK-Palace-Frankfurt&p=2232361&highlight=Rates+Discussion#post2232361).

Remember one thing for sure, whatever maximum you pay once for a service from any girl, that becomes "written on your forehead" as the minimum rate for you for that service from almost all the girls in that FKK (and possibly neighboring FKKs) for next few years. Others may get the same service for cheaper rate from the same girls, but unfortunately not you in near future. So decide carefully when you pay more than the "standard rates".

Good luck in your first ever FKK visit, have fun.

Mechelen
10-12-18, 00:58
Hey!

I've seen and read a lot in the past 2 days and I've seen the rates post with what should be included in a 50 e /30 m rate. I've never been to am FKK and I've read that I shouldn't tell them that I'm new to even that FKK so I won't get ripped off. My question is. How do you negotiate? I mean if all girls come up and demand 100 for DFK DATY etc and you turn them down (how do you say no so they don't get offended or cut you off totally?

When do you talk prices? I mean you talk with her first and I don't want to be known to the girls that I'm just there to chat and later turn them all down and then the day is ruined etc. Like many other people I am not made of gold so of course I would like to go for the standard rate. On RLD windows in Amsterdam you just start with name, nationality then bam 50 s&f and done. (Some even starts with that).

In privehuise its all set and done when you walk in so this is going to be very new to me.

Also one last question. I've seen that a lot of people say there's lots of upselling in the FKK mainly in Mainhatten and sharks. Why is that and which has less upselling?

Thanks guys!First: do not tell them that you are new.

Just go to a girl you like and tell her what you want or like. Then you can negociate or search for another girl. Don't be afraid to say no, there are enough girls.

Remember: you pay the girl (s) AFTER you come back from the room; you pay them at your locker.

PayForIt
10-12-18, 01:43
I tried to find her based on Payforit's report. I went to the ladies up at the front desk and asked for help. They had no idea of who she was and they had no interest in helping me. Maybe they have so many girls and this is a near impossible task but I think those ladies could be a little more helpful and a little more customer service oriented.She wasn't there on Wednesday. I was gutted. I spoke to her blonde flatmate Juliana (big natural see cups pretty but a little heavy) and she has gone home to Ro but only for a short break so if you're there again soon she will be back. Having been to Globe on Tuesday (see report in that thread) I can confirm that so far Cloe is giving Globe service at Sharks. It cannot last. Service there is on another scale. Due to price. DFK is guaranteed and starts in the bar. The girls at Globe are happy to spend more than 10 minutes in interview if they think there is a chance of a 1 hour (280 CHF) room. I get it. It's the same as a guy telling a girl in Sharks he only does 2. 5 hour rooms! But the DFK / BBBJ is skilled and perpetrated with focus and attention to detail. All that said, despite there being more 9's at Globe than Sharks, for me, it's not the better club. The overall ambience of Sharks, the food, the outdoors, the vibe (although the music at Globe is FAR superior) and the choice of options at a cheap price mean for me, Sharks wins the battle.

Cloe is a real star, great service and great fun. We both missed out. I hope you get there soon. For me. I'm unlikely to be back in 2018 though have found an even better option now in Estark 92 in Spain. Anna Marie is just spectacular! I wish you well in your hunt for a session with Cloe. She is worth the wait!

Austin28
10-12-18, 04:20
And just to know: where are Mandy / Dina normally sitting?+1.

Can someone please tell me how to recognize Mandy? Where does she sit?

ExpatLover
10-12-18, 04:38
+1.

Can someone please tell me how to recognize Mandy? Where does she sit?Left side of the bar on the German table, just ask the bar tender or one of the German girl, she was there on Tuesday.

TankTank123
10-12-18, 07:29
Day 2 in FKK. This is a belated report as I was not free earlier.

Reached Sharks at around 2 pm on Monday afternoon earlier this week. It looked deserted. Very different feeling from the Saturday evening that I spent in bustling World where it was jam-packed with 70 girls and as many men. (OK, to be fair, I should not be comparing a Saturday line-up with a Monday line-up.).

Here at Sharks, I saw only about 10 girls present and none of my favorites, so I went to have a bite in the hope that more would arrive by the time I finished eating.

I saw a redhead with tattoos come into the restaurant, and concluded that this must be Viorica. Studied her face carefully and did not find it to my taste. Body, although slim, was also not really appealing.

However, remembering the numerous very glowing reports about her, especially from Uncle Ox, I decided to try her out. So, when she finally exited the restaurant, I went to her, asked her whether she was Viorica and then asked her whether she was free for a session.

Other than confirming her name, the only thing she said was that she was not free. She then went to the slot machine and put money in, while another man came over to watch her play.

So ego-shattering to have a girl prefer a slot machine over me! Well, I did not find her attractive in the first place, and so moved on to see whether there were other girls to try since my favorites were not around.

Although the line up grew to about 20-25 girls as time went on, they were the same stale old faces. Many with silicones, and faces made up to look very unappealing. Most looked unhappy and their bored looks did not help make them more attractive. (It was so different at Babylon 2 days later where all the girls were walking around smiling and joking with each other and with the customers)

I spent about 2 hours just sitting or walking around looking at the boring and dismal exhibits. Finally, I saw some hope at 4 pm when some girls (not many) I have not seen before streamed in.

Desparately wanting my first room, I approached a cute small slim blonde girl. She said her name was Esra or something like that. But she said no kissing, and BJ covered, unless I paid extra. I was certainly not going to pay 100/30 or 150/60 min for an unknown quality; and while she was reasonably pretty, she was not a head-turner.

So I waited for another of the new arrivals to emerge. Another reasonably pretty one appeared, I approached her and again got the no kissing, everything extra pricing.

Other girls who came in were same old girls whom I had never heen interested in in the past. I walked around the bar many many times like in a picture museum, got totally bored, and decided to wait for dinner at 5 pm and then go back to my hotel, with zero room.

Viorica still at slot machine. Then suddenly this very pretty girl in black fish-net leggings walked in front of my view in the slot machine area. I had seen her a few times from afar in previous visits but had not had a close look of her till now to notice how pretty she was. She had seen me before too but somehow we had never talked.

She said she was Mona Lisa. I said stop joking. She said, yes Mona Lisa like in the Paris museum.

Seemed to have quite a charming personality so we went for a session.

I am surprised that there had been no reports of her at all. She provided really excellent enthusiastic service, and the more I looked at her, the prettier she appears. Very humorous as well. Extended the session, and this made up for the wasted afternoon earlier.

Went for dinner at 6 pm. Then started walking around again. A 3rd new girl I approached, can't remember the name, also said no kissing and only CBJ unless I paid 50 euros extra. This made 3 new girls in a row with same pricing on offer. It led me to think that they have been briefed on coming to this club that this is the going rate that they must insist upon.

To see whether this was really a new club norm, I went to a girl who has been around for a long time but whom I had not sessioned with before as she was not that attractive to me, although she does have many regular customers. Well, no problem getting kissing and BBBJ from her for 50 euros. But not a great end to the day as although she provided good service, I could not get turned on by her looks.

Went back to hotel after that with great memories of Mona Lisa. I still do not know whether she was pulling a fast one on me, so I would be grateful if someone can confirm whether a pretty brunette with wavy hair, slim, B-cup, medium-height, somewhat Latino look, is indeed Mona Lisa was whether she goes by some other club name.

Sirioja
10-12-18, 08:23
Yes, MonaLisa is a small brunette, gypsy type, smiling, enthusiastic in room. Nice behavior. She uses to stay between pole and fishes.

Viorica is not a top beauty, but a bit of charm, really nice girl and very enthusiastic in bed. She was very honest about club rate for our 2 rooms on same week end on mid June. Some would say she is selective to choose clients, just bullshit, sometimes some girls can be weird behavior, but usually Viorica doesn't start business too early, and worked quite late.

Mondays used to be quite good casting days at Sharks, I had Karolina. Pol on September 2015 , legendary Katalina on mid April 2016 before following her to Globe, she was my reason to go to spend expensive at Globe. I remember also Lena. De, Mandi, Sandra on mondays.

At the moment, sun is shinning for new beauties on north, and some superstars at Globe.

Nick The G
10-12-18, 10:43
Then suddenly this very pretty girl in black fish-net leggings walked in front of my view in the slot machine area. I had seen her a few times from afar in previous visits but had not had a close look of her till now to notice how pretty she was. She had seen me before too but somehow we had never talked.
She said she was Mona Lisa. I said stop joking. She said, yes Mona Lisa like in the Paris museum.

Went back to hotel after that with great memories of Mona Lisa. I still do not know whether she was pulling a fast one on me, so I would be grateful if someone can confirm whether a pretty brunette with wavy hair, slim, B-cup, medium-height, somewhat Latino look, is indeed Mona Lisa was whether she goes by some other club name.Her name is Mona, indeed. Often she introduces herself as Mona Lisa. Very cute girl! Always appears to be a bit hyperactive with her movements. Usually can be found on or close to the couches behind the pole dance platform (as seen from the bar).

ExpatLover
10-12-18, 10:50
Day 2 in FKK. This is a belated report as I was not free earlier.

Reached Sharks at around 2 pm on Monday afternoon earlier this week. It looked deserted. Very different feeling from the Saturday evening that I spent in bustling World where it was jam-packed with 70 girls and as many men. (OK, to be fair, I should not be comparing a Saturday line-up with a Monday line-up.).

Here at Sharks, I saw only about 10 girls present and none of my favorites, so I went to have a bite in the hope that more would arrive by the time I finished eating.

I saw a redhead with tattoos come into the restaurant, and concluded that this must be Viorica. Studied her face carefully and did not find it to my taste. Body, although slim, was also not really appealing.

However, remembering the numerous very glowing reports about her, especially from Uncle Ox, I decided to try her out. So, when she finally exited the restaurant, I went to her, asked her whether she was Viorica and then asked her whether she was free for a sessio

Other than confirming her name, the only thing she said was that she was not free. She then went to the slot machine and put money in, while another man came over to watch her play..I was there on Tuesday, many girls but left without any room, only veteran girls around or very average new one, no need for me to spend my money, since I decided to only session extremely beautiful girls I am saving a lot of money every month, I refuse to go to the room with veteran prostitute like Mandy, Brenda, EMA,. All the pussy are the same after so many girls I start to understand it, some of you will say it is more than time, yes nobody is perfect.

HungryStud101
10-12-18, 14:41
I saw a redhead with tattoos come into the restaurant, and concluded that this must be Viorica. Studied her face carefully and did not find it to my taste. Body, although slim, was also not really appealing.

However, remembering the numerous very glowing reports about her, especially from Uncle Ox, I decided to try her out. So, when she finally exited the restaurant, I went to her, asked her whether she was Viorica and then asked her whether she was free for a session.

Other than confirming her name, the only thing she said was that she was not free. She then went to the slot machine and put money in, while another man came over to watch her play.

So ego-shattering to have a girl prefer a slot machine over me! Well, I did not find her attractive in the first place, and so moved on to see whether there were other girls to try since my favorites were not around. This sounds like Karine. Nick the G may be able to help for me but who it the petite little thing that stands at the head of the bar and chain smokes and gambles and has the permanent resting Bia-face.




Went for dinner at 6 pm. Then started walking around again. A 3rd new girl I approached, can't remember the name, also said no kissing and only CBJ unless I paid 50 euros extra. This made 3 new girls in a row with same pricing on offer. It led me to think that they have been briefed on coming to this club that this is the going rate that they must insist upon.

To see whether this was really a new club norm, I went to a girl who has been around for a long time but whom I had not sessioned with before as she was not that attractive to me, although she does have many regular customers. Well, no problem getting kissing and BBBJ from her for 50 euros. But not a great end to the day as although she provided good service, I could not get turned on by her looks.

Yep, I think this is pretty accurate. If you want a 50 E /30 Min session but it will probably not be with an awe inspiring girl. IF you want one of the hotter girls, the ante is probably 100 E for an hour GFE.

There has been a lot of talk here. In another thread there is someone bragging about all the 50 E /30 Min dates they do. I average one 50 E /30 M session a day so I realize that it is still possible to survive on these sessions but it probably will not be with just any girl you want. Anyway, I got a pm from someone that frequents the club and said that the girls he mentioned were lower wrung girls so there.

Lanthano
10-12-18, 14:52
Hey!

I've seen and read a lot in the past 2 days and I've seen the rates post with what should be included in a 50 e /30 m rate. I've never been to am FKK and I've read that I shouldn't tell them that I'm new to even that FKK so I won't get ripped off. My question is. How do you negotiate? I mean if all girls come up and demand 100 for DFK DATY etc and you turn them down (how do you say no so they don't get offended or cut you off totally?

When do you talk prices? I mean you talk with her first and I don't want to be known to the girls that I'm just there to chat and later turn them all down and then the day is ruined etc. Like many other people I am not made of gold so of course I would like to go for the standard rate. On RLD windows in Amsterdam you just start with name, nationality then bam 50 s&f and done. (Some even starts with that).

In privehuise its all set and done when you walk in so this is going to be very new to me.

Also one last question. I've seen that a lot of people say there's lots of upselling in the FKK mainly in Mainhatten and sharks. Why is that and which has less upselling?

Thanks guys!First of all, I suggest fishing around the forums and reports from the experienced members to get the answer to your questions plus details.

As you wrote, "should be", however in the big clubs (Oase, Sharks to an extent, Mainhattan and Palace anyway) you'll get plenty of new girls that probably have been drawn there by their blonde girlfriend's story of getting 200 e for 30 minutes by some Chinese guy on a business trip. Therefore, yes upselling is quite common. Learning to express what you want and being able to say no are the key skills in the clubs, whilst still being nice about it.

How much you pay is really up to you, some members here only do 100 e sessions and they in turn will have plenty of willing participants.

But imo, 100 e for 30 minutes is a joke and a rip-off. If you are going to pay 100 e, at least get an hour out of it with all the extras that you want (DFK, BBBJ).

It is inevitable anyway that you'll be turning several down in the big clubs. For some it dampens the mood, whilst other mongers acquire a taste for telling some of these girls to go F themselves.

"I mean if all girls come up and demand 100 for DFK DATY etc and you turn them down (how do you say no so they don't get offended or cut you off totally?" I will do that.

When do you talk prices? Don't worry, she'll be eager to bring that up before you set foot in the room. Most girls will assume before anything has even been said that you're aiming for 30 minutes.

Offended? Why think in these terms? This is business. Lightly give them your position, they'll give an answer. Smile if they say no and "machs gut" (take care) and look around for someone else, or tell them you'll think about it and maybe later. Nothing stops you from reconsidering.

"I don't want to be known to the girls that I'm just there to chat and later turn them all down and then the day is ruined etc".

Well, that's the issue, but usually in the big ones, there's enough girls to try things out with. I assume the girls talk as you said, but as long as you're asking something reasonable, it shouldn't matter. Some cliques don't talk to each other. The best girls don't necessarily go around approaching guys and asking, so inevitably you should be approaching the ones you're interested in anyway.

"Why is that and which has less upselling?

I think Sharks has less upselling per girl, but has more girls in total. I gave the reason above.

Loco Tonto
10-12-18, 16:40
And just to know: where are Mandy / Dina normally sitting?Right next to the bar entrance that is near the restaurant entrance. I think Dina said she leaves this week, can't remember which day.

HungryStud101
10-12-18, 17:35
But imo, 100 e for 30 minutes is a joke and a rip-off. If you are going to pay 100 e, at least get an hour out of it with all the extras that you want (DFK, BBBJ).A BJ that I like with a Finish that I like. Many of the girls wouldn't throw in the 2nd option for 100 E for even a 30 minute date so I passed on those girls. They would only do GFE or what I call A BJ that I like with DFK and DATY.



The best girls don't necessarily go around approaching guys and asking, so inevitably you should be approaching the ones you're interested in anyway.
.Wise words once again. Pick the girl you want and not the other way around. Sometimes my Viagra induced penis gets selected by random girls I wouldn't normally session with. C'est la vie .

I have not made all the mistakes but I have made a few. Newbies are inclined to make a few mistakes. Try to read here and minimize this tendency. The more you read the more you know. After you make a mistake the best thing to do is learn from it and move on. All sessions will not be 10's. You may have to kiss a few sharks (not frogs) along the way.

Lanthano
10-12-18, 17:56
A BJ that I like with a Finish that I like. Many of the girls wouldn't throw in the 2nd option for 100 E for even a 30 minute date so I passed on those girls. They would only do GFE or what I call A BJ that I like with DFK and DATY.

Wise words once again. Pick the girl you want and not the other way around. Sometimes my Viagra induced penis gets selected by random girls I wouldn't normally session with. C'est la vie .

I have not made all the mistakes but I have made a few. Newbies are inclined to make a few mistakes. Try to read here and minimize this tendency. The more you read the more you know. After you make a mistake the best thing to do is learn from it and move on. All sessions will not be 10's. You may have to kiss a few sharks (not frogs) along the way.Thanks for adding. Yes, 100 e sessions should at least include DFK and the first thing, DATY if you're that way inclined. 50 e if you're lucky and selective, which I have had several times.

I think I spent a good amount of time reading through the forum before going to my first club which minimised the mistakes, though admittedly my first session was a total mistake which made me not want to go back (Dietzenbach). I however just kept to the plan of the other clubs which made up for it.

The NUMBER ONE MISTAKE to avoid is not telling them that it's your first time here, which is bad enough, rather it is NOT DISCUSSING (many people are shy) what services should be offered in the room. Once you're in the room, it's already too late and you're vulnerable to upselling after she refuses to give you those extras you forgot to ask for. Her saying no during negotiation beforehand isn't necessarily a loss, rather a potential dodging of a bullet.

I'm planning on heading to the lion's den tomorrow though as with Sharks, more just to relax and enjoy.

SBTiger
10-12-18, 18:19
Thanks for adding. Yes, 100 e sessions should at least include DFK and the first thing, DATY if you're that way inclined. 50 e if you're lucky and selective, which I have had several times.

I think I spent a good amount of time reading through the forum before going to my first club which minimised the mistakes, though admittedly my first session was a total mistake which made me not want to go back (Dietzenbach). I however just kept to the plan of the other clubs which made up for it.

The NUMBER ONE MISTAKE to avoid is not telling them that it's your first time here, which is bad enough, rather it is NOT DISCUSSING (many people are shy) what services should be offered in the room. Once you're in the room, it's already too late and you're vulnerable to upselling after she refuses to give you those extras you forgot to ask for. Her saying no during negotiation beforehand isn't necessarily a loss, rather a potential dodging of a bullet.

I'm planning on heading to the lion's den tomorrow though as with Sharks, more just to relax and enjoy.50 E /30 min is standard price F/S. Some girls try to upsell everything some don't, even these basics. Kissing, licking extra. WTF.

But these extras are standard: CIM extra 50 E, A extra 100 E, Lesbian extra 100 E (plus the extra girl!). You would think you should be able to negotiate these rates- at least I was never able to.

So YMMV, enjoy whatever you get.

Lanthano
10-12-18, 18:34
50 E /30 min is standard price F/S. Some girls try to upsell everything some don't, even these basics. Kissing, licking extra. WTF.

But these extras are standard: CIM extra 50 E, A extra 100 E, Lesbian extra 100 E (plus the extra girl!). You would think you should be able to negotiate these rates- at least I was never able to.

So YMMV, enjoy whatever you get.Gino02's cited post a few weeks ago says "50 e for 30 minutes including BBBJ, DFK, DATY, FIV, sex in public etc etc all. ".

While I agree, this depends on several factors: whether she can stand you or not, your negotiation, whether she's a scammer or not.

I've been able to get these things before as standard (DFK without having asked for it precisely), but it really depends on the girl and the club imo. But I will take his post onboard that asking for these things in a 30 min standard session is not this outlandish thing that some of the new girls think it is. On Wednesday while I was in Sharks, there were at least 2 girls that reacted with surprise: "Girls will offer you DFK and BBBJ for only a 30 min 50 e session? Yes, I answered.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1867-FKK-Palace-Frankfurt&p=2232361&viewfull=1#post2232361.

ExpatLover
10-12-18, 19:13
Gino02's cited post a few weeks ago says "50 e for 30 minutes including BBBJ, DFK, DATY, FIV, sex in public etc etc all. ".

While I agree, this depends on several factors: whether she can stand you or not, your negotiation, whether she's a scammer or not.

I've been able to get these things before as standard (DFK without having asked for it precisely), but it really depends on the girl and the club imo. But I will take his post onboard that asking for these things in a 30 min standard session is not this outlandish thing that some of the new girls think it is. On Wednesday while I was in Sharks, there were at least 2 girls that reacted with surprise: "Girls will offer you DFK and BBBJ for only a 30 min 50 e session? Yes, I answered.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1867-FKK-Palace-Frankfurt&p=2232361&viewfull=1#post2232361.Great performance and achievement, not easy to get so much from a poor prostitute.

Canary
10-12-18, 22:20
I'm making my eighth FKK visit of the year (fourth at Sharks) on the 26th October but I wondered if anyone could put a name to a girl please?

As you enter the bar area from reception / locker room straight ahead at the left hand corner of the bar I often see the same lady.

Brunette, shoulder length hair neither straight of curly, very slim, short with I think medium or small boobs.

I've never seen her smile or approach guys but this is where I've often seen her.

Does anyone know her name & what she's like as she intrigues me for some unknown reason?

Lastly I've been lucky enough to find the odd girl who does a proper B2B with oil. Can anyone recommend ladies for doing this & performing rimming as I adore both services?

Thanks if you're able to help with any of the questions.

Nick The G
10-12-18, 22:48
This sounds like Karine. Nick the G may be able to help for me but who it the petite little thing that stands at the head of the bar and chain smokes and gambles and has the permanent resting Bia-face.TankTank123 wrote about Viorica. And you relate to the chain-smoking Karen/Careen/Carla with duck lips. BTW, both are smokers and frequently can be seen at the slot machines.

Momosa
10-12-18, 23:43
First off! Gino 02 Thanks a lot for those threads, really helped me out I got to say!

I kinda suspected that what I pay the first time will most likely be stamped but I wasn't sure and to be honest, didn't think it was that bad. I mean how on earth do they remember all that stuff. Unfortunately I'm the kinda guy that's "hard to miss" not because I'm a hot guy or that I give them the time of their lives but I've noticed that my appearance is odd enough (no I'm not ugly) to remember. Now I got to be even more careful. Man I hope my man down there can be patient.

Thanks for the advice really appreciate your time!

Mechelen, yeah I read that in a few forums (outside of here) as well as here. Although I get "excited" by the Idea of them knowing I'm new since I suppose its a whole different experience. Although a followup question, since a lot say that they have great memory, can't they "call my bluff" so to speak?

I honestly didn't know about payment after, so used to payment upfront, thanks mate!

Lanthano, thanks man that was a very detailed and helpful post. Yeah honestly I'm more interested in 1 h sessions for 100 euro with BBBJ and DFK maybe even DATY etc than just the 30 minutes for 50. But then again I mean lets be honest who wouldn't want to pay less? Lets just hope I'm skilled enough to negotiate well enough to get that price. I honestly wouldn't mind 110-120 euro for 1 h with those things if the girl is to my liking. I mean I'm afterall used to the prices of Amsterdam where I went to a prive and payed 95 euro for 1 h + 20 for DFK + 20 for DATY and if I wanted BBBJ it was 30-50 euro or so (all girls were different) totally like 165-185 euros for 1 h at least.

I'm a little shy when it comes to approaching which is why FKK has sounded really good to me, since you can let the girls approach you a little more. Although if I see someone I like enough I won't hesitate but I usually ramble and talk weird because I get nervouse. I know these are personal issues and I don't mean to bug you with them just rambling on I suppose.

That's too bad to hear cause I honestly was hoping for Mainhatten having less upselling cause its so closer and you can stay a lot later without worrying about a huge taxifee. Speaking of which how much is a taxi at lets say 2-3 am from Sharks / Mainhatten to the central?

Thanks a lot for your help mate it truly has helped me a lot, I will start fishing more on here.

Have a good one!

YamaYama0519
10-13-18, 02:04
Her name is Mona, indeed...
Yes, MonaLisa is a small brunette, gypsy type, smiling, enthusiastic in room...
...She said she was Mona Lisa...I was wondering if their Mona Lisa was same as mine below.


...3) Monaliz: Rom, long blonde, pretty, well-shaped be-cup, cheerful, 5 days at Sharks after Greece RLD. Procedure in a room: DFK, massaging on her, caressing, DATY, intense cum on her side. She was able to cum promptly after I started DATY, during which she tried to escape from my attack with the tongue. BBBJ, cow-girl, missionary and massage on her. It is strange that she does not keep time with her watch or mobile. She asked me when the session would finish. E100/60 min. Repeat...

TankTank123
10-13-18, 04:39
TankTank123 wrote about Viorica. And you relate to the chain-smoking Karen/Careen/Carla with duck lips. BTW, both are smokers and frequently can be seen at the slot machines.Well, the redhead I talked to on Monday was definitely Viorica as she confirmed it was her name. And her lips were thin, although painted bright red. Bright red lips are a turn-off for me as they remind me of Romanian vampires who suck the blood and cash out of you.

Anyway, I think I spotted who I think is Uncle Ox (but I may be wrong) yesterday afternoon in Sharks, so doubtless we will get fresh reports of his Princess Girl soon.

For the information of those who posted queries earlier this week about other girls, I did not see Dina yesterday (Friday) although she was reportedly around earlier this week, and I did not see Sidonia on Friday nor Monday.

TankTank123
10-13-18, 04:45
I was wondering if their Mona Lisa was same as mine below.Unlikely as she only came to Sharks earlier this year, and your report is in 2015.

YamaYama0519
10-13-18, 06:59
Unlikely as she only came to Sharks earlier this year, and your report is in 2015.Thanks, TankTank.

Loco Tonto
10-13-18, 13:33
Lastly I've been lucky enough to find the odd girl who does a proper B2B with oil. Can anyone recommend ladies for doing this & performing rimming as I adore both services?The big boobed blonde girl who sits on the couch by the stairs going up to the rooms, can't remember her name (not Kylie, not Elektra, not Brenda), she offered oil on her boobs to play with. Don't know if that means B2B or not. But you can try. Unlike Brenda or Kylie though, she's not often in room, not sure if that means anything.

Ortos
10-14-18, 08:51
The big boobed blonde girl who sits on the couch by the stairs going up to the rooms, can't remember her name (not Kylie, not Elektra, not Brenda), she offered oil on her boobs to play with. Don't know if that means B2B or not. But you can try. Unlike Brenda or Kylie though, she's not often in room, not sure if that means anything.Are you talking about Anika (or something like that, definitely name starting with "A")?

SkullFunk
10-14-18, 09:10
Hey all,

Long time lurker, first time poster here.

I'm at Sharks Oct 19 if anyone wants to hang or get into some tag team action.

PM me.

SF.

Canary
10-14-18, 10:56
The big boobed blonde girl who sits on the couch by the stairs going up to the rooms, can't remember her name (not Kylie, not Elektra, not Brenda), she offered oil on her boobs to play with. Don't know if that means B2B or not. But you can try. Unlike Brenda or Kylie though, she's not often in room, not sure if that means anything.I will keep a look out for someone of that description by the stairs.

When I say B2B I'm really talking about slow oily body slides, a brunette Rom called Ena is vg but I just fancied someone else.

I don't think it's a particularly popular request whereas my other delight of being rimmed is slightly more popular although again not easy to find a girl who excels?

OmarRap
10-14-18, 16:03
I will keep a look out for someone of that description by the stairs.

When I say B2B I'm really talking about slow oily body slides, a brunette Rom called Ena is vg but I just fancied someone else.

I don't think it's a particularly popular request whereas my other delight of being rimmed is slightly more popular although again not easy to find a girl who excels?Sabina the Romy and Mandy the German provide rimming services.

For Mandy get in early so you know she has not been rimming someone else before kissing you.

ExpatLover
10-14-18, 20:01
The big boobed blonde girl who sits on the couch by the stairs going up to the rooms, can't remember her name (not Kylie, not Elektra, not Brenda), she offered oil on her boobs to play with. Don't know if that means B2B or not. But you can try. Unlike Brenda or Kylie though, she's not often in room, not sure if that means anything.Oil on the boobs, what agreat proposal? A cheating girl like so many in Shark.

OmarRap
10-14-18, 21:37
Right next to the bar entrance that is near the restaurant entrance. I think Dina said she leaves this week, can't remember which day.Mandy also tends to sit in this area along with the Sharks resident German crew.

OmarRap
10-14-18, 21:41
This makes me sad. Sandra was one of the all time greats and I never tried public action thing with her. She was the only girl that my ex-Sharks wife would speak kindly of, rare for a Romanian WG speaking about a German WG.Mandy has no reservation for doing public action in Sharks. However since the BBBJ ban she says if does public sex then the BJ will be with condom. She will do it on the couch in the Sharks open space.

If sex is not your public thing then she definitely is very happy to DFK in public with her men.

ExpatLover
10-15-18, 03:41
Mandy has no reservation for doing public action in Sharks. However since the BBBJ ban she says if does public sex then the BJ will be with condom. She will do it on the couch in the Sharks open space.

If sex is not your public thing then she definitely is very happy to DFK in public with her men.Mandy like many prostitutes is ready for many things to get cash this is the main driver for all the prostitutes. They have no moral, no shame, no proud nothing or they will not be what they are.

AmSexyBoy
10-15-18, 04:25
This morning (Sunday), around 1 pm, I saw the front desk lady, about 35-40 years old, who was responsible for checking, yelled at a customer. The customer seemed shy and asked questions. But the front desk lady seemed to be very impatient to explain something and kept yelling at him "whaat". I noticed The customer always kept his good manners even if he was treated unfairly. Because it was Sunday, there was no manger was present during the time.

The front desk lady is kind of new one, I saw her since July. It is different from previous ones who worked before June. She also worked in this Saturday morning.

Although it is none of my business, but I felt obligated to report this thing. It is our interest.

Because of her extremely bad manners to customers, the lady should be Disciplined. She should respect customers of Sharks. Without punishment, this lady will soon be rude to any customers, or girls. It will not only ruin customers feeling, but also will affect Sharks business, Sooner or later.

Any one could share the information of this lady, or similar experience?

Takedown
10-15-18, 05:19
Mandy has no reservation for doing public action in Sharks. However since the BBBJ ban she says if does public sex then the BJ will be with condom. She will do it on the couch in the Sharks open space.

If sex is not your public thing then she definitely is very happy to DFK in public with her men.Yeah. Lots of rave about Mandy and I believe the hype about her service. She's just that good optically for my taste. Too stubby and borderline chubby.

Canary
10-15-18, 15:56
Yeah. Lots of rave about Mandy and I believe the hype about her service. She's just that good optically for my taste. Too stubby and borderline chubby.Whenever I go to Sharks I never seem to meet / engage with the German girls, I seem to "play" with the others, possibly because I rarely approach ladies and tend to wait to be approached??

I gather the German ladies sit to the end of the bar as you walk in nearest the buffet area??

Mandy, Leoni & Kimberley are on my list for an inspection next Friday (26th).

Am I correct where they sit?

Do they usually charge €100 HR or are they some of the higher priced girls?

Lastly are they all blondes, I do have problems recognising ladies, even those I've previously met?

Many thanks.

Takedown
10-15-18, 16:11
Yeah. Lots of rave about Mandy and I believe the hype about her service. She's just that good optically for my taste. Too stubby and borderline chubby.Not that good looking.

HungryStud101
10-15-18, 17:59
Any one could share the information of this lady, or similar experience?Some lady barked at me at 5:00 AM as I was paying off my bar bill. I was trying to give her some change and she said nothing less than 0. 50 $ and she was a rude ***** about it. For a long moment I considered fighting it out. I asked to see the manager. I have spent a ton of money in Sharks this year and I go there preferentially. Should this be the treatment of a loyal customer?

Contrast this with my interaction with the desk at Golden Times. As I was leaving I said good night and we exchanged pleasantries. I said I was in line to see Kate but she was just too busy and I preferred not to wait so long and the lady looked at me and said "Oh why not" as if to say it will be worth it. But I chose to leave and she said something nice like come again. The same with LR. The ladies helped me spell Melika's name (I have long since lost the paper with the spelling) so I could write a review and they smiled as I told her that she made my night. Even the Oase ladies last year when I told them that I was disappointed and I would never come back asked me why I didn't go to the front to complain about the rip-off 3-some.

Whomever that fucking lady is that checked me out at Sharks last month should be given an attitude adjustment. She was a big tall blond wearing a blue business suit dress.

HungryStud101
10-15-18, 18:18
TankTank123 wrote about Viorica. And you relate to the chain-smoking Karen/Careen/Carla with duck lips. BTW, both are smokers and frequently can be seen at the slot machines.Frequently, the way these girls pronounce their names throws me. I think she is the girl with the reddish / pinkish hair and slender body. She is built like Anastasia with the same skin tone and she sits at the front of the bar. She told me she likes to be dominated.

Pinokio Pin
10-15-18, 18:55
I'm coming this Thursday.

Does anyone know how many girls there are on Thursdays?

I would be happy if someone would give a recommendation to a girl who knows how to suck deeply.

Nick The G
10-15-18, 21:35
I think she is the girl with the reddish/pinkish hair and slender body. She is built like Anastasia with the same skin tone and she sits at the front of the bar.Hair color is reddish to orange for Viorica. Can change any time back and forth. Viorica sometimes sits at the front of the bar, sometimes in the middle on the left side of the bar (as seen from entrance).


She told me she likes to be dominated.Yep, that sounds like Viorica. Some time ago she told me the same fairytale.

DingoBrax
10-16-18, 05:26
I'm coming this Thursday.

Does anyone know how many girls there are on Thursdays?

I would be happy if someone would give a recommendation to a girl who knows how to suck deeply.Never been there on a Thursday, but as for a deep blowjob. Try Dina, from Hungary. Usually sits on the left side of the bar, towards the dining area.

OmarRap
10-16-18, 16:14
Yeah. Lots of rave about Mandy and I believe the hype about her service. She's just that good optically for my taste. Too stubby and borderline chubby.The fat and chubby ones give you a better time.

OmarRap
10-16-18, 16:17
I'm coming this Thursday.

Does anyone know how many girls there are on Thursdays?

I would be happy if someone would give a recommendation to a girl who knows how to suck deeply.A girl suckling deep throat on your pole may depend on how enormous is your schlong.

Lucy does a skilled BJ. She kicks everywhere too. Sits at the back at the club on the mattress area behind the bar as you come in from the entrance way.

Another one is Hannah who stands at the top right of the bar when you come in from the entrance way.

ExpatLover
10-16-18, 20:28
I'm coming this Thursday.

Does anyone know how many girls there are on Thursdays?

I would be happy if someone would give a recommendation to a girl who knows how to suck deeply.All the girls there are sucking deeply. Your cash. You are really a beginner to ask this kind of questions.

Kosher Kowboy
10-16-18, 23:36
Lucy does a skilled BJ. She kicks everywhere too.
Another one is Hannah who stands at the top right of the bar when you come in from the entrance way.I think I know who Lucy (Luci?) is but please don't tell me she kicks everywhere now! Think that would hurt, I am sure you meant licks :D

Are there two Hannahs? I think Luci also goes by Hannah. Great suggestion. Great value for 50/100 if same girl.


The fat and chubby ones give you a better time.And the ugly ones too :D

UncleOx
10-17-18, 01:16
Just spotted two new gems in Sharks. Both come from Romania. One is 18 yo, the other is 19 yo. Optic wise, both in top 10 among all Girls in Sharks. No one ever mentioned their names in ISG before. Details will be disclosed in my following reports.

Saw Cosmina (the famous original one) on Sunday. No idea why she claimed her nickname as "Mina".

Saw Hungarian Corinna tonight. We are reconciled. Corinna looks very decent and delicate. She is a classic beauty. To me she is much more beautiful than another Hungarian beauty Dina (appeared last Friday).

Takedown
10-17-18, 07:37
Saw Cosmina (the famous original one) on Sunday. No idea why she claimed her nickname as "Mina".Small girl who used to be best friends with Evita and Irina?

NqCoolHandLuke
10-17-18, 16:41
The NUMBER ONE MISTAKE to avoid is not telling them that it's your first time here, which is bad enough, rather it is NOT DISCUSSING (many people are shy) what services should be offered in the room. Once you're in the room, it's already too late and you're vulnerable to upselling after she refuses to give you those extras you forgot to ask for. Her saying no during negotiation beforehand isn't necessarily a loss, rather a potential dodging of a bullet.Great advice pity I made those exact mistakes on my first trip. I'm planning my third trip now and want to do some full hour rooms this time but wary about getting my money worth, I'm assuming my sofa discussion on services needs to also include multiple pops in the room, as I don't want to pop just past 30 minutes and waste the next half an hour because they won't give me another chance to get it up. Also what do you think the chance of me persuading a girl to do a full hour of oral, different positions standing, in a chair etc?

Any other advice for getting the most out of 1 hour rooms?

OmarRap
10-17-18, 18:09
Small girl who used to be best friends with Evita and Irina?Yeah. The original Cosmina is back after a lengthy absence. Cosmina came back when Yra came back for a while in the summer time. Should make a few people happy. I am not sure of her working schedule.

Canary
10-17-18, 19:04
I will be at Sharks again next Friday (26th).

I appreciate it's not a guarantee they will be working next Friday but could anyone confirm whether the following ladies have been working recently please?

Anastasia: a very young talkative blonde, small chested Romanian.

Mia: another Romanian I think, not blonde.

Leoni & Mandy: German ladies.

Thanks.

Turgid
10-17-18, 19:25
A girl suckling deep throat on your pole may depend on how enormous is your schlong..............Reminds me of the tune by the Gee Gees "How Deep is your Love".

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10-17-18, 21:36
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ExpatLover
10-17-18, 21:39
Great advice pity I made those exact mistakes on my first trip. I'm planning my third trip now and want to do some full hour rooms this time but wary about getting my money worth, I'm assuming my sofa discussion on services needs to also include multiple pops in the room, as I don't want to pop just past 30 minutes and waste the next half an hour because they won't give me another chance to get it up. Also what do you think the chance of me persuading a girl to do a full hour of oral, different positions standing, in a chair etc?

Any other advice for getting the most out of 1 hour rooms?If you are paying everything is possible they are prostitutes.

TankTank123
10-18-18, 00:39
Yeah. The original Cosmina is back after a lengthy absence. I am not sure of her working schedule.According to a dance-pole girl I was with last week, original Cosmina now comes only during weekends; and new Cosmina has left the club. And Evita is not returning as she now has a partner.

UncleOx
10-18-18, 01:58
Small girl who used to be best friends with Evita and Irina?Yes. It is the one who used to be with Evita. Cosmina is still pretty enough though she might be 26 yo. She told me she usually would be in club from Friday to Sunday. No weekdays schedule.

UncleOx
10-18-18, 02:05
Our famous beauty and new queen of Sharks, Helen, is in town. Today is her first day from vacation. Fully booked. I was her first client today. She always provided good service.

Sirioja
10-18-18, 02:49
Reminds me of the tune by the Gee Gees "How Deep is your Love".Australians, Bee Gees on Saturday night fever with John Travolta? Or Australians, AC DC for: I put my love into you, I think on highway to hell released.

RichCandyMan
10-18-18, 03:03
Too many Girls charging way too much of money, Is there any girls provides 30 minutes for 25 euros or is there any provider who would go to room spend 2 hours, only single pop and charge 50 euros? I like to spend time but not sex all the time talk, massage or few laughs. I am cheap and can not afford lot of money.

FiddyCent
10-18-18, 03:04
Reminds me of the tune by the Gee Gees "How Deep is your Love".Many of the younger guys won't remember them Turgid. They faded away with the disco era. The best girls take a cock all the way down their throat to your balls and gag for a second while they gasp for air. Adding tongue action as they slide back up the shaft is the best possible technique. Too bad most of the girls wipe away their spit on a paper towel. They should keep it wet and sloppy. Does any girl you know give a good wet BJ, without being toothy? Any information would be helpful. Thanks in advance.

FiddyCent.

ExpatLover
10-18-18, 03:58
Many of the younger guys won't remember them Turgid. They faded away with the disco era. The best girls take a cock all the way down their throat to your balls and gag for a second while they gasp for air. Adding tongue action as they slide back up the shaft is the best possible technique. Too bad most of the girls wipe away their spit on a paper towel. They should keep it wet and sloppy. Does any girl you know give a good wet BJ, without being toothy? Any information would be helpful. Thanks in advance.

FiddyCent.Most of the girls will not provide a top BJ in a club, not a big interest with condom for us and without it is a bit health risky to do it often without knowing the guy. Sometimes it happen to me that a girl who a could bring to orgasm by licking her is telling now it is my turn I need to revanche you.

MrStev
10-18-18, 03:59
Any new of Sidonia, Ro?

Thanks!

TankTank123
10-18-18, 06:05
I will be at Sharks again next Friday (26th).
I appreciate it's not a guarantee they will be working next Friday but could anyone confirm whether the following ladies have been working recently please?
Anastasia: a very young talkative blonde, small chested Romanian.
Mia: another Romanian I think, not blonde.
Leoni & Mandy: German ladies.On 2 weekdays last week, I saw Anastasia but not Mia (small-chested, dark blond Romanian). Mandy returned to work last Wednesday.

By the way, I read your earlier report of B2B massage with Thai Kim in Oase. Yes, she does that well with lots of pussy grinding. But if you want a very much prettier girl for B2B at Oase, you can next time try the Romanian slim tattooed Kim, aka Claudia. Good too, but unfortunately, she will ask for 50 euros more and did not do pussy grinding.

HungryStud101
10-18-18, 06:44
I will be at Sharks again next Friday (26th).

I appreciate it's not a guarantee they will be working next Friday but could anyone confirm whether the following ladies have been working recently please?

Anastasia: a very young talkative blonde, small chested Romanian.
.I sessioned with Anastasia September 21st. Do a serach on the girls names and see if there are reports.

Canary
10-18-18, 07:27
On 2 weekdays last week, I saw Anastasia but not Mia (small-chested, dark blond Romanian). Mandy returned to work last Wednesday.

I read your earlier report of B2B massage with Thai Kim in Oase. Yes, she does that well with lots of pussy grinding. But if you want a very much prettier girl for B2B at Oase, you can next time try the Romanian slim tattooed Kim, aka Claudia.Unfortunately I've only been to Oase once, it was OK but for me it's a summer Club as the out doors is far better than inside.

Yes Thai Kim wasn't the prettiest but her B2B was brilliant with as you say plenty of pussy grinding. The only girl I've found anything like that at Sharks is Edna, a slim brunette Rom who has plenty of stamina.

I just wish I could find another girl with similar talents at Sharks next week?

Tuber19
10-18-18, 11:40
Someone mentioned before that Betty will be gone October. Now my trip is in few weeks. I wonder was this accurate. Did Betty left Sharks? And if yes does anyone know if she will be back soon?

FkkLover1
10-18-18, 18:15
Hello fellow mongers,

I will have a daytime layover in FRA next Friday and was considering spending the day at either Sharks or Palace. I really did RTF but could not find any info about the experience at 10 am-2 pm.

Is it worthwhile? I have been to Oase and Palace many times, and enjoyed both very much. But it was at night.

Sirioja
10-18-18, 18:57
Hello fellow mongers,

I will have a daytime layover in FRA next Friday and was considering spending the day at either Sharks or Palace. I really did RTF but could not find any info about the experience at 10 am-2 pm.

Is it worthwhile? I have been to Oase and Palace many times, and enjoyed both very much. But it was at night.Sharks only open at 11 am.

Takedown
10-18-18, 19:01
Yes. It is the one who used to be with Evita. Cosmina is still pretty enough though she might be 26 yo. She told me she usually would be in club from Friday to Sunday. No weekdays schedule.Awesome. I hope to catch Cosmina.

For Evita fans, I wouldn't worry. She's been gone for 6-7 months but has yet to post any pictures with her significant other on social media. If she truly plans to be gone forever, she wouldn't go through the effort of keeping the illusion on social media by hiding him.

ExpatLover
10-18-18, 20:01
Hello fellow mongers,

I will have a daytime layover in FRA next Friday and was considering spending the day at either Sharks or Palace. I really did RTF but could not find any info about the experience at 10 am-2 pm.

Is it worthwhile? I have been to Oase and Palace many times, and enjoyed both very much. But it was at night.Go to Frankfurt and do shopping it is really the best solution now if you want to fuck and spend so hard earned money definitively shark is the less bad one place.

DaWong949
10-18-18, 20:53
Hello fellow mongers,

I will have a daytime layover in FRA next Friday and was considering spending the day at either Sharks or Palace. I really did RTF but could not find any info about the experience at 10 am-2 pm.

Is it worthwhile? I have been to Oase and Palace many times, and enjoyed both very much. But it was at night.The Palace before 2 pm is pretty much dead. Shark will have some girls but limited as 2nd shift come in around 4-6 pm. If I were you I would go to sharks between those two clubs.

Akibono
10-18-18, 21:45
Too many Girls charging way too much of money, Is there any girls provides 30 minutes for 25 euros or is there any provider who would go to room spend 2 hours, only single pop and charge 50 euros? I like to spend time but not sex all the time talk, massage or few laughs. I am cheap and can not afford lot of money.Do you think a club give the girls a discount if cheap folks show up? If you want cheaper, go down market like the RLD. You could try to negotiate a lower price by the ugliest girls there. There is no reason for a girl to accept less when there are people willing to pay more.

Clodius1
10-18-18, 21:51
I had a really good appointment with a "Mia" at sharks about two years ago. Spinner with short brunette hair and an amazing derriere. Curious if the OP is looking for the same girl? I would repeat if I crossed paths with her again.


On 2 weekdays last week, I saw Anastasia but not Mia (small-chested, dark blond Romanian). Mandy returned to work last Wednesday.

By the way, I read your earlier report of B2B massage with Thai Kim in Oase. Yes, she does that well with lots of pussy grinding. But if you want a very much prettier girl for B2B at Oase, you can next time try the Romanian slim tattooed Kim, aka Claudia. Good too, but unfortunately, she will ask for 50 euros more and did not do pussy grinding.

Turgid
10-18-18, 23:20
Australians, Bee Gees on Saturday night fever with John Travolta? Or Australians, AC DC for: I put my love into you, I think on highway to hell released.Judging from the name of the latter I always thought they swung both ways which puts a completely different spin into their hit:"Let me put my love into you babe".

Turgid
10-18-18, 23:32
Many of the younger guys won't remember them Turgid. They faded away with the disco era. The best girls take a cock all the way down their throat to your balls and gag for a second while they gasp for air. Adding tongue action as they slide back up the shaft is the best possible technique. Too bad most of the girls wipe away their spit on a paper towel. They should keep it wet and sloppy. Does any girl you know give a good wet BJ, without being toothy? Any information would be helpful. Thanks in advance.

FiddyCent.Some may consider me overly cautious as I neglect to name providers who give me great BBBJs in light of the law. However, the girls I rated highly in my May through August posts on my summer visit gave me excellent good, wet, toothless BJs.

Mechelen
10-19-18, 00:17
I will have a daytime layover in FRA next Friday and was considering spending the day at either Sharks or Palace. I really did RTF but could not find any info about the experience at 10 am-2 pm.

Is it worthwhile? I have been to Oase and Palace many times, and enjoyed both very much. But it was at night.Forget Palace, it's empty at daytime.

Entry at Oase is 50 euro before 4 pm.

Sharks might be the best choice.

UncleOx
10-19-18, 01:15
Hurry, I think you should rescue Betty ASAP. I saw her all the time this week. No much business. Most of time she just sat with Alexia, smoking cigarettes, without customers. Not sure if she would quit soon.


Someone mentioned before that Betty will be gone October. Now my trip is in few weeks. I wonder was this accurate. Did Betty left Sharks? And if yes does anyone know if she will be back soon?

FiddyCent
10-19-18, 01:30
Some may consider me overly cautious as I neglect to name providers who give me great BBBJs in light of the law. However, the girls I rated highly in my May through August posts on my summer visit gave me excellent good, wet, toothless BJs.I don't blame you for being overly cautious Turgid. It is to protect the girls and your interests as well. Thank you for your reply. I will figure it all out when I make my return.

FiddyCent.

Takedown
10-19-18, 02:49
Hurry, I think you should rescue Betty ASAP. I saw her all the time this week. No much business. Most of time she just sat with Alexia, smoking cigarettes, without customers. Not sure if she would quit soon.She should. She's not made to do this job. Once I downgraded her from 1 hour rooms to a half hour rooms. On later visits shebinsisted on 1. 5 hour rooms to play games. When I would not agree to 1. 5 hour rooms she would go and tell other girls to not go with me like a lovesick school girl. She's not ready for this business.

Sirioja
10-19-18, 03:41
Awesome. I hope to catch Cosmina.

For Evita fans, I wouldn't worry. She's been gone for 6-7 months but has yet to post any pictures with her significant other on social media. If she truly plans to be gone forever, she wouldn't go through the effort of keeping the illusion on social media by hiding him.Maybe she is clever enough to have a business facebook, just to feed what are only clients for her business, and a private facebook for her private life who is not for only clients who are just money.

With Dina, original Cosmina who was brunette when she started on 2014, following Barbie Ingrid at this time, we played so much with Ingrid, also at Prestige Neunkirchen and World, even I wish Megan to stay at big money Globe, but a bit of revival at Sharks, among many lack of charm and elegance new girls. I don't know her name at Sharks, but I'm sure she is one of the prettiest if still there, with long black hair, a bit tanned skin, 1,70 , slim, pretty face, claiming she worked at Globe, funny girl when she was not able to get business at small LR, even she was one of the prettiest, and same at GT, but not on level for these clubs, so she moved to Sharks.

Sirioja
10-19-18, 03:58
Judging from the name of the latter I always thought they swung both ways which puts a completely different spin into their hit:"Let me put my love into you babe".Honestly, I prefer guitar solos on Hells Bells or Highway to Hell, to drive whole night through FKK land from the town of love, rather than being really interested by their lyrics meaning, but usually rock and roll is more about sex and drug than big love. I may be a new romantic, even Gary Numan sang they are so boring, in brothels, and my drug is adrenaline, dreams and pleasure.

Sirioja
10-19-18, 05:22
Too many Girls charging way too much of money, Is there any girls provides 30 minutes for 25 euros or is there any provider who would go to room spend 2 hours, only single pop and charge 50 euros? I like to spend time but not sex all the time talk, massage or few laughs. I am cheap and can not afford lot of money.Lowest rate I know is 30 € for 20 mn at Mondial Koln, or in AO clubs with really not pretty girls.

TankTank123
10-19-18, 06:30
She should. She's not made to do this job. Once I downgraded her from 1 hour rooms to a half hour rooms. On later visits she insisted on 1. 5 hour rooms to play games. When I would not agree to 1. 5 hour rooms she would go and tell other girls to not go with me like a lovesick school girl. She's not ready for this business.+1.
She shouted insults at me in front of the other aquarium girls last week for not taking her any more (which was because she kept on insisting for more money).

ExpatLover
10-19-18, 06:38
I don't blame you for being overly cautious Turgid. It is to protect the girls and your interests as well. Thank you for your reply. I will figure it all out when I make my return.

FiddyCent.All the girls give me BBBJ, but I will never give any name also nobody knows who I am, far better so to get great sessions girls don t want to have any stress.

TankTank123
10-19-18, 07:48
I had a really good appointment with a "Mia" at sharks about two years ago. Spinner with short brunette hair and an amazing derriere. Curious if the OP is looking for the same girl? I would repeat if I crossed paths with her again.Yes, that is the one. Have had many good appointments with her over the years. Was brunette, but hair turned to dark blond early this year, maybe it is back to her natural brunette when Canary saw her.

OmarRap
10-19-18, 08:05
+1.
She shouted insults at me in front of the other aquarium girls last week for not taking her any more (which was because she kept on insisting for more money).Betty did similar to me. Wants long bookings and extras and made promises that she would not keep. Now she is grumpy when one does not take her anymore or ignores her overtures to take her to the room. Really.

Most times when I see her she sitting on her armchair under the aquarium looking bored and disinterested in seeking customers.

YamaYama0519
10-19-18, 10:48
...She shouted insults at me in front of the other aquarium girls last week for not taking her any more (which was because she kept on insisting for more money).But still, I will definitely go to a room with her in a couple of weeks as the last time.


...4) Betty 1845-2045,200 E, the first time in the past six months. In a room my 20 min massage on her, 20 min DATY with her O, 7 min BJ, 7 min cow-girl, 7 min missionary, coca cola break, and long long pillow talk on legacy of team Cosmina / Evita, battle against team Melanie, HIV, her cousin Vivi, FKK scene in Switzerland, Love and Family. Must repeat...

YamaYama0519
10-19-18, 10:59
Yes, that is the one. Have had many good appointments with her over the years. Was brunette, but hair turned to dark blond early this year, maybe it is back to her natural brunette when Canary saw her.I'm looking forward to seeing her again in a couple of weeks.


...7) Mia: 0030-0130,100 E /1 h & 10 E as tip, the first time in the past 1. 5 years. In a room I at first asked to make me cum, then she gave me good BBBJ, 69 leading her to O not me, BBBJ, missionary, her unsuccessful BBBJ. We had good, long discussion on the couch before the session and after the session. Repeat...

Tuber19
10-19-18, 13:11
She should. She's not made to do this job. Once I downgraded her from 1 hour rooms to a half hour rooms. On later visits shebinsisted on 1. 5 hour rooms to play games. When I would not agree to 1. 5 hour rooms she would go and tell other girls to not go with me like a lovesick school girl. She's not ready for this business.Thats wired. Mixed review then, my experience whith her was more than amazing, I'm exited for my coming trip early November and she is the 1st one to cross to mind. Good news is she is still there.

TankTank123
10-19-18, 16:37
Thats wired. Mixed review then, my experience whith her was more than amazing, I'm exited for my coming trip early November and she is the 1st one to cross to mind. Good news is she is still there.She is certainly attractive, and her service has been great in all the sessions I had with her. The problem was that she blatently started to try to exploit me for money once she thought she had me hooked. And now the tantrum after 'separation'. Which was why I agreed with the 'lovesick schoolgirl' description given by Takedown.

TugGently
10-19-18, 18:50
Heading to Sharks in about 30 min. Yesterday was quite slow.

Sessioned with Ada. Blond hair, but brown roots and big black glasses. I don't care for silicon, but she looks good and was such a sweet girl. I had a great hour with her.

I spoke with Anastsia, but did not get the chance to spend time with her.

I also talked with a Lara / Laura. Brown wavy hair, sat at the middle of the bar or the side of the cafeteria. She has a great smile and was nice to talk to, but she did not seem interested in going to the room. In fact, she got up and went across the bar to talk to one of the other girls.

It looks like I have lost Emina. I really liked her. Guess I have to find a new favorite.

Anyway, heading out soon. If any of you are in town, I will be the middle aged bald guy, who only speaks English, sitting by myself watching the goings on. Will be here tonight and tomorrow night. Feel free to say Hello,.

ExpatLover
10-19-18, 19:24
She is certainly attractive, and her service has been great in all the sessions I had with her. The problem was that she blatently started to try to exploit me for money once she thought she had me hooked. And now the tantrum after 'separation'. Which was why I agreed with the 'lovesick schoolgirl' description given by Takedown.So much fantasy around mongers, she is just a prostitute opening all her holes for money nothing more, we should never forget that.

UncleOx
10-19-18, 21:23
The blonde Cosmina, the new cute one, 18 yo, is in Sharks today. After unsuccessfully trying other club, she decided to stay in Sharks for awhile. She is not in fish tank gang, or Betty crews any more. She used to treat me rudely because of Betty. Today she changed her attitude and became friendly.

Now we have two Cosmina.

McAdonis
10-19-18, 22:50
Thats wired. Mixed review then, my experience whith her was more than amazing, I'm exited for my coming trip early November and she is the 1st one to cross to mind. Good news is she is still there.Doesn't seem weird to me at all. It seems like a well established pattern. Optimist, TT123, OmarRap, and Takedown, all thought she was amazing at one point. In the past, they ALL spoke highly of her. And now they don't! Sounds like the relationship with Betty has three phases: (1) honeymoon phase, (2) playing games phase, and (3) batshit crazy phase.

During honeymoon phase, she is sweet and GFE. This first phase lasts probably as long as she's seeing the payments and room times steadily increasing. If she sees the spending tapering off then she moves the relationship into the second phase. This second phase I suspect is characterized by silent treatment, acting heartbroken, pretending to be busy, and taking away benefits that she used to award freely like pre-zimmer time. This second phase is a deliberate attempt by her to trigger an emotional response from the monger. The monger is supposed to feel like he is losing her to other whales, and he needs to apologize and win her back with increased spending. If the monger increases his spending, then she brings the relationship back to the first phase. If the monger goes several visits without spending anything on her, then she goes into the third phase, which is characterized by insults, emotional outbursts, and vindictive behavior.

Sound about, right? Or does she go directly from honeymoon phase to batshit crazy phase with no intermediate step? Does she show traces of batshit craziness even at the beginning even while the spending is increasing?

In any case, enjoy the honeymoon phase Tuber19!

TankTank123
10-19-18, 23:44
For Evita fans, I wouldn't worry. She's been gone for 6-7 months but has yet to post any pictures with her significant other on social media. If she truly plans to be gone forever, she wouldn't go through the effort of keeping the illusion on social media by hiding him.I do not know how true it is, but one of the girls told me that her significant other was/is one of her regular custoners here. If true, that would explain why his face must remain concealed! My apologies to any ISGer reading this if it happens to be him.

Takedown
10-20-18, 00:05
I do not know how true it is, but one of the girls told me that her significant other was/is one of her regular custoners here. If true, that would explain why his face must remain concealed! My apologies to any ISGer reading this if it happens to be him.I have no doubt that he was a customer. But multiple sources say that his face is not concealed across all mediums, only the ones visible to her Romanian friends. Never trust what the girls day. Another girl told me that she is currently with her former Romanian significant other.

Jolokia
10-20-18, 00:19
4) Betty 1845-2045,200 E, the first time in the past six months. In a room my 20 min massage on her, 20 min DATY with her O, 7 min BJ, 7 min cow-girl, 7 min missionary, coca cola break, and long long pillow talk on legacy of team Cosmina / Evita, battle against team Melanie, HIV, her cousin Vivi, FKK scene in Switzerland, Love and Family. Must repeat. Why HIV to discuss with Betty? Does some FKK girl have HIV?

And why Team Betty have problem with Team Melanie? Melanie and Emma very nice girls, very sweet with good service. Not princess snob behavior like Betty after she stop wearing her glasses.

ExpatLover
10-20-18, 02:32
Doesn't seem weird to me at all. It seems like a well established pattern. Optimist, TT123, OmarRap, and Takedown, all thought she was amazing at one point. In the past, they ALL spoke highly of her. And now they don't! Sounds like the relationship with Betty has three phases: (1) honeymoon phase, (2) playing games phase, and (3) batshit crazy phase.

During honeymoon phase, she is sweet and GFE. This first phase lasts probably as long as she's seeing the payments and room times steadily increasing. If she sees the spending tapering off then she moves the relationship into the second phase. This second phase I suspect is characterized by silent treatment, acting heartbroken, pretending to be busy, and taking away benefits that she used to award freely like pre-zimmer time. This second phase is a deliberate attempt by her to trigger an emotional response from the monger. The monger is supposed to feel like he is losing her to other whales, and he needs to apologize and win her back with increased spending. If the monger increases his spending, then she brings the relationship back to the first phase. If the monger goes several visits without spending anything on her, then she goes into the third phase, which is characterized by insults, emotional outbursts, and vindictive behavior.

Sound about, right? Or does she go directly from honeymoon phase to batshit crazy phase with no intermediate step? Does she show traces of batshit craziness even at the beginning even while the spending is increasing?

In any case, enjoy the honeymoon phase Tuber19!Could be true but most of the prostitutes are not as strategic as that they are just following their instincts and feelings, their only driver is money. They have low education and never worked in a.

Job in which they need to demonstrate intellectual capacities. They sell their body and often destroy their mental health because they are lazy and it is easier to open their holes to anyone that to wake up early, to work hard a full day for far less money but for so many more proud.

ExpatLover
10-20-18, 02:36
The blonde Cosmina, the new cute one, 18 yo, is in Sharks today. After unsuccessfully trying other club, she decided to stay in Sharks for awhile. She is not in fish tank gang, or Betty crews any more. She used to treat me rudely because of Betty. Today she changed her attitude and became friendly.

Now we have two Cosmina.Terrible to see that such a girl prefers to be a prostitute than to study, in several years I hope she will not regret it too much. Obviously I will never session such a young girl hoping that everyone will do the same so she will have to return to school.

Pistons
10-20-18, 03:26
I do not know how true it is, but one of the girls told me that her significant other was/is one of her regular custoners here. If true, that would explain why his face must remain concealed! My apologies to any ISGer reading this if it happens to be him.Perhaps. Perhaps also keeping the illusion that you date a customer would be quite a selling point. I know FKK girls date bartenders, DJ's at the clubs and bouncers, so maybe.

YamaYama0519
10-20-18, 08:44
Why HIV to discuss with Betty? Does some FKK girl have HIV?And why Team Betty have problem with Team Melanie? Melanie and Emma very nice girls, very sweet with good service. Not princess snob behavior like Betty after she stop wearing her glasses.Just a stupid chat with her, nothing more.

Optimist
10-20-18, 10:43
McAdonis. Yes, your three stage summation of a Betty relationship seems partially correct so far as I was concerned. To be fair to her, she never went to what you call the batshit crazy stage: I walked away at the playing games stage.

TankTank123
10-20-18, 11:33
To be fair to her, she never went to what you call the batshit crazy stage: I walked away at the playing games stage.But that is because you have walked away from the whole of Sharks!

Unfortunately, as one of my favorites sits at the aquarium area, I had to walk past Betty to experience her unhappiness last week. (To get to the aquarium, I had to choose between running the Betty gauntlet on the left, or the dance-pole girls gauntlet on the right.)

McAdonis
10-20-18, 12:16
TT123 wrote exactly what I was thinking, he is just faster on the keyboard. It would be an interesting social experiment if Optimist were to sit near the aquarium one day for six hours, not spending any money and just chatting. If it is a Tuesday evening or another slow business day, where she is not making any money, I could imagine Betty's frustration mounting, and her taking it out on any ex-customers in her range!

TT123 how loud was she when those insults were hurled? Was it a busy day when she verbally attacked you? Were there other potential customers in vicinity? I imagine it is bad publicity for her, if other potential customers are around. Unless she was so angry, that she just didn't care.

Also, Optimist. At what point in the playing games stage, did you walk away? TT123 and Takedown both imply that this phase can persist over a long duration, with verbiage like "kept on insisting". So sounds like she is willing to to give mongers a second chance or even sixth or seventh chance before she starts burning bridges.

TankTank123
10-20-18, 12:33
If it is a Tuesday evening or another slow business day, where she is not making any money, I could imagine Betty's frustration mounting, and her taking it out on any ex-customers in her range!

TT123 how loud was she when those insults were hurled? Was it a busy day when she verbally attacked you? Were there other potential customers in vicinity? I imagine it is bad publicity for her, if other potential customers are around. Unless she was so angry, that she just didn't care.It was a moderate business day. Her team of 3 were sitting around. Other girls were making money. Her insults were loud enough only for those in the aquarium area to hear. No other customers there, but 2 other girls on couches facing the aquarium.

She was probably angry as she had seen me in this visit and also on previous visits go for long sessions with my aquarium girl while rejecting her approaches (especially as I used to give her long sessions last year).

PokerWiesBaden
10-20-18, 14:25
Abi.

Adriana.

Alessia.

Angelina.

Blondie.

Betty.

Cleo.

Crystal.

Cosmina (old).

Cosmina (new).

Daisy.

Emma.

Esra.

Evelyn.

Francesca.

Gina.

Hannah.

Ivy.

Ira.

Jessica.

July.

Leonie.

Lisa.

Marlyn.

Monalisa.

Melanie.

Mia.

Mila.

Mirella.

Nika.

Nina.

Paloma.

Patricia.

Rose.

Selina.

Sonja.

Sylvia.

Tuber19
10-20-18, 18:11
Doesn't seem weird to me at all. It seems like a well established pattern. Optimist, TT123, OmarRap, and Takedown, all thought she was amazing at one point. In the past, they ALL spoke highly of her. And now they don't! Sounds like the relationship with Betty has three phases: (1) honeymoon phase, (2) playing games phase, and (3) batshit crazy phase.

During honeymoon phase, she is sweet and GFE. This first phase lasts probably as long as she's seeing the payments and room times steadily increasing. If she sees the spending tapering off then she moves the relationship into the second phase. This second phase I suspect is characterized by silent treatment, acting heartbroken, pretending to be busy, and taking away benefits that she used to award freely like pre-zimmer time. This second phase is a deliberate attempt by her to trigger an emotional response from the monger. The monger is supposed to feel like he is losing her to other whales, and he needs to apologize and win her back with increased spending. If the monger increases his spending, then she brings the relationship back to the first phase. If the monger goes several visits without spending anything on her, then she goes into the third phase, which is characterized by insults, emotional outbursts, and vindictive behavior.

Sound about, right? Or does she go directly from honeymoon phase to batshit crazy phase with no intermediate step? Does she show traces of batshit craziness even at the beginning even while the spending is increasing?

In any case, enjoy the honeymoon phase Tuber19!Seem very Logical explanation, for me I will try to keep her at honeymoon phase, I have advantage of being the tourist and she will see me for 3-5 days in a row / vacation depends on my holiday, so. I assume- she have no time to change phases.