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Horny Harry
12-08-18, 12:02
Second session was with a beautiful blonde lady that claimed to be Italian and her name was Francesca. I am not sure if she was Italian or not but she talked a lot of Italian to me, which I don't know if it was Italian or Romanian but who cares at the end of the day LOL.
She started with a wonderful BBBJ and then she told me 'Oh baby I want this dick in my ass'. That was it! In one minute I was banging hard her ass and continued doing this for 30 minutes in various positions. I loved her ass so much that I forgot she also has a pussy LOL. At the end she also received a lovely CIM. This girl was unique, not only she was the first I took in the ass in a FKK without even asking, but she also never asked my name or where do I come from. Unique? No, she's a real professional who doesn't give a fuck where you are from, and the "oh baby, I want your dick in my ass" line is her standard line for upselling. It would have been unique if she hadn't charged you extra for the anal, hahaha! LOL!
Having said that, she uses that "I want your dick in my ass" line quite skilfully as a non-aggressive upsell which seamlessly fits into the overall PSE. IMHO, Francesca's looks have diminished a lot over the last 12 months or so. She is not as curvy anymore, gained some weight and that fake blonde hair makes her face look pale and unhealthy. I prefer Francesca's friend, Steffi, who she always hangs out with at the bar. Steffi is the chick with the towel wrapped around her.
BTW, as you guessed, Francesca (as well as Steffi) are about as Italian as the average male visitor is from Jupiter.
Member #4636
12-08-18, 19:41
How much did you pay for anal and com with the Italian Francesca? How long was the session. That sounds like my kind of girl, I have issues finding girls that can take me for anal because I'm a bit thick which makes it painful for inexperienced girls even if I don't go deep.
Good report. I'll be back in the western land of smiles next week after a year and half so very curious to see how things go for me.I must have been with her maybe 40-50 min and paid 250. I know I could save at least 50 but I considered that as a tip / present because she was nice. I am thick as well and this was the reason she wanted it deep in the ass, she was enjoying it. If you find her I am sure you will enjoy her.
Member #4636
12-08-18, 19:47
no tall blond Romanian Francesca .My Italian Francesca anal fuck was also tall and blonde LOL Maybe she is half half but who really cares.
Regarding the fight I always stay away from Albanians either men either prostitutes, the worst experience I had in a club was with an Albanian in Artemis.
The brunette diva was short, straight hair angel naughty face and incredible tits looking at the stars. But it was mainly the way she was moving around.
Member #4636
12-08-18, 20:35
Unique? No, she's a real professional who doesn't give a fuck where you are from, and the "oh baby, I want your dick in my ass" line is her standard line for upselling. It would have been unique if she hadn't charged you extra for the anal, hahaha! LOL!
Having said that, she uses that "I want your dick in my ass" line quite skilfully as a non-aggressive upsell which seamlessly fits into the overall PSE. IMHO, Francesca's looks have diminished a lot over the last 12 months or so. She is not as curvy anymore, gained some weight and that fake blonde hair makes her face look pale and unhealthy. I prefer Francesca's friend, Steffi, who she always hangs out with at the bar. Steffi is the chick with the towel wrapped around her.
BTW, as you guessed, Francesca (as well as Steffi) are about as Italian as the average male visitor is from Jupiter.I know all this man, I knew that she was trying to upsell and she also asked for a present at the end, of course I denied. I also knew that she wasn't Italian, that is why I said 'she claimed'. Every RO that speaks a little bit of Italian wants to give us the illusion we are fucking Monica Belucci LOL.
But I had fun and that is the most important and I also knew form the beginning the budget for this. By unique I didn't mean that she was special but unique not to ask about details but go straight to ass fucking, next time I will fuck her and her friend Steffi in a threesome and tell you more details LOL.
She is not curvy any more? She looked fine to me but of course different taste.
My Italian Francesca anal fuck was also tall and blonde LOL Maybe she is half half but who really cares.
Regarding the fight I always stay away from Albanians either men either prostitutes, the worst experience I had in a club was with an Albanian in Artemis.
The brunette diva was short, straight hair angel naughty face and incredible tits looking at the stars. But it was mainly the way she was moving around.Everybody know your tall blond Francesca is 110% Romanian, but not important. My most numerous rooms girl at Sharks, was a Romanian model type now at Globe. I discovered Globe because I followed a Romanian from deep Moldavian part, who made me dream at Sharks.
BigBuddy69
12-08-18, 23:40
I am thick as well and this was the reason she wanted it deep in the ass, she was enjoying it. If you find her I am sure you will enjoy her.Actually I think the reason she wanted it was to make 100 euros more. Two extras for less than one hour=good bargain for the girl.
Member #4636
12-09-18, 08:58
Actually I think the reason she wanted it was to make 100 euros more. Two extras for less than one hour=good bargain for the girl.I have no doubt about that but when I asked for an hour, CIM I knew from before it would be 150 at least. The ass thing added another 100 . Of course I could get 50 back because I didn't try her pussy LOL.
At the end of the day I don't care that much since I had fun and she was the first that gave me her ass in my short FKK life.
Member #4636
12-09-18, 09:00
Everybody know your tall blond Francesca is 110% Romanian, but not important. My most numerous rooms girl at Sharks, was a Romanian model type now at Globe. I discovered Globe because I followed a Romanian from deep Moldavian part, who made me dream at Sharks.Yes Siri as you said it is not important to me. I don't think that if she really was Italian I would enjoy more her ass LOL.
I must have been with her maybe 40-50 min and paid 250. I know I could save at least 50 but I considered that as a tip / present because she was nice. I am thick as well and this was the reason she wanted it deep in the ass, she was enjoying it. If you find her I am sure you will enjoy her.Palace with few wow girls seen like Julia, Venezuelan, blond with poney tall, angel face with full tattoed back and also a long dark hair, can be cheap compare to her. 250 for 45 mn, You should have kept on enjoying for full hour. But You are right, she is unique for You, because when she is waiting at the bar, she never told to white wolf: I want your dick in my ass. I don t know why? Girls never propose to white wolf little horse to fuck them in the ass. Only my German escort did on our discovery which was in a club, I was informed about her by a guy who paid me and a German girl to watch my foreplay at GT, anal was only 50 where I discovered her, I tried for nearly 30 mn, opening her with fingers, until 3 deep inside, but couldn't enter deeper than her anal ring, so we gave up, and kept on in her unbreakable pussy. Only when she was too exhausted, she closed her pussy, and had to open her with fingers. She didn't ask any money for anal try. Not for this, but she was very unique for me, even tall with athletic body, but such a fragile beauty, always asking for love, even when she was exhausted, she asked to come again inside of her, just to stay like this, to rest and recover like this, but her muscles put me out, so had to enter again. A dreamed girl, made for love. I liked when she sent messages to her pimp manager: she felt sick, to cancel appointments after, keeping on smiling, kissing, eating, before she said: now I want to go to party with my girlfriend. For about 2 months, pimp manager became mad.
I have no doubt about that but when I asked for an hour, CIM I knew from before it would be 150 at least. The ass thing added another 100 . Of course I could get 50 back because I didn't try her pussy LOL.
At the end of the day I don't care that much since I had fun and she was the first that gave me her ass in my short FKK life.You were right to enjoy, furthermore if she was your first anal girl, it's your money, and life can be short. Good business for her, in slow Sharks business with some everything for only 50, and she is most of time not so busy.
I'm in town this week at Frankfurt for Thursday through Saturday but unfortunately not in Frankfurt long enough Saturday to enjoy the superb Saturday lineup.
Should I aim for Thursday or Friday? I wanted to go one day sharks and one day palace for a bunch of stunner fucks which I found before was more possible in palace. I also noticed palace had more variety in nationalities IMO and girls willing to do anal.
Thoughts? I think Thursdays still are like Friday's though I assume Friday's are still better due to weekend crowd and more girls.
Palace with few wow girls seen like Julia, Venezuelan, blond with poney tall, angel face with full tattoed back .............Sirioja, good to see you're expanding your horizons with Latina. Be careful, you may want to visit South America and when there may not want to return.
Sirioja, good to see you're expanding your horizons with Latina. Be careful, you may want to visit South America and when there may not want to return.No risk, I don't like Latina types and hate their fake moaning. She looks like Russian type and no moaning, but she said I'm crazy in bed, when so quiet in lounge, because I didn't touch her before entering the room, but in bed, I touched her everywhere, to make her react. Big smiles after room, I'm sure she will welcome me. I love wow woman Caucasian types.
Sirioja, good to see you're expanding your horizons with Latina. Be careful, you may want to visit South America and when there may not want to return.Or Barcelona. Cheap European center for every nationality related to South America Central America and Europe.
Member #4636
12-10-18, 21:53
No risk, I don't like Latina types and hate their fake moaning. She looks like Russian type and no moaning, but she said I'm crazy in bed, when so quiet in lounge, because I didn't touch her before entering the room, but in bed, I touched her everywhere, to make her react. Big smiles after room, I'm sure she will welcome me. I love wow woman Caucasian types.That Venezuelan girl looked nice indeed. She was something like between Russian and Spanish look to me and had nice eyes. I also remember she approached me very polite and nice unlike others 'Hi baby let's fuck' type.
Or Barcelona. Cheap European center for every nationality related to South America Central America and Europe.I love Barcelona, magic city, but not for prostitution for me, because for my tastes for bed, Spain is great for foods, sea, sun, but can't compete for me with FKK land, even Slovenian Marina club where I made super sexy Mila. Ro became my woman in bed for 1 h30 on first room, when she seemed used to fast rooms, with tears in her eyes at the end, when I told her: you see, you are able to be a woman for love. I will keep her answer private.
Barcelona is Gaudi, Sagrada Familia, remblas. Amazing.
I'm in town this week at Frankfurt for Thursday through Saturday but unfortunately not in Frankfurt long enough Saturday to enjoy the superb Saturday lineup.
Should I aim for Thursday or Friday? I wanted to go one day sharks and one day palace for a bunch of stunner fucks which I found before was more possible in palace. I also noticed palace had more variety in nationalities IMO and girls willing to do anal.
Thoughts? I think Thursdays still are like Friday's though I assume Friday's are still better due to weekend crowd and more girls.Some girls take a break on Thursday, because they can make enough money on Wednesday and the weekend. So Friday will be better.
This Friday (and Sunday) there is a Christmasparty at Sharks. This means many girls and many men.
GuyFromParis
12-11-18, 13:06
This Friday (and Sunday) there is a Christmasparty at Sharks. This means many girls and many men.The entrance will still be 65 €?
No risk, I don't like Latina types and hate their fake moaning..................Its not fake like Asians, its real. When I hear "RRRICO!" I bang like there's no tomorrow.
Some girls take a break on Thursday, because they can make enough money on Wednesday and the weekend. So Friday will be better.
This Friday (and Sunday) there is a Christmasparty at Sharks. This means many girls and many men.Sold for sharks on Friday. I need to figure out if I go sharks Thursday too or Palace on Thursday then.
The entrance will still be 65 ?Yes. On Sunday it is 50 before 2 pm.
ExpatLover
12-11-18, 19:50
Some girls take a break on Thursday, because they can make enough money on Wednesday and the weekend. So Friday will be better.
This Friday (and Sunday) there is a Christmasparty at Sharks. This means many girls and many men.Parties are not the best time to get great time with the girls.
Its not fake like Asians, its real. When I hear "RRRICO!" I bang like there's no tomorrow.They moan as fake as pornstars. Chinese girls make like little birds noises.
KingOfBongo
12-12-18, 20:07
They moan as fake as pornstars. Chinese girls make like little birds noises.And where can we find those Chinese girls who 'make little birds noises'? At Sharks?
ExpatLover
12-12-18, 21:00
And where can we find those Chinese girls who 'make little birds noises'? At Sharks?I am living for more than 15 years in China and I can tell that it is quite impossible to find a Chinese girl in the clubs or brothels in Germany or in Europe, just they don t need any more to be a prostitutes so many wealthy man ready to spend money for them.
And where can we find those Chinese girls who 'make little birds noises'? At Sharks?She was escort in Paris, really pretty, very white skin, but making like cui cui.
On my last visit, I saw a dark skin Asian, quite pretty face, she was staying close to the pole close to ex kino.
Highlights: 1 excellent room, failed introduction to first timer, fun.
Good visit.
Arrived at around 7 pm with a friend visiting from London.
He unfortunately found the experience to be overbearing and maybe FKKs are just not his thing. A rather negative guy who just wouldn't even try or open up, despite admitting that he had never seen anything like it. Possibly something to consider for other first timers, that maybe Sharks can be a bit too much for some people.
I on my side met up with another friend (also his first time) as well so the three of us trailed through the club until 4 am.
Lots of girls, plenty of new faces so the club was still quite alive for a mid-December night.
Found my number with Veronika, a tall slinky blonde Romanian with short hair and tattoos, claiming the age of 21, who gave a great introduction and an exceptional service in exchange for a small tip if I enjoyed it. Made her extras contingent on whether she "likes" the person. Consequently she provided a full GFE and a killer room that left me more than satisfied. A nymphomaniac who admittedly likes to be dominated and dirty talk. Full eye contact throughout the BJ and DFK. Took her time throughout and afterwards, flexible and willing to please. Missionary and doggy style finish through which she shifted her legs to provide strong body contact. Beautiful.
(Friend's room: Roxana, short young blonde for 1 hour session including all his extras. He also reported an excellent service: DFK, DATY.).
I made the right decision which lifted the curse and spectre of my last horrible session at Oase.
In summary: a good visit, upselling is there as usual but there are options past it as usual. 100 e 1 hour rooms should dispel most of this problem if you're willing.
L-U was good and included a number of new additions, 1 girl from Palace and 1 from 5th element. 1 cute slim African girl claiming to be from Cape Town. I should have taken a room earlier and gone for two in total but whatever.
Highlights: 1 excellent room, failed introduction to first timer, fun.
Good visit. but whatever.Lanthano will you be at sharks today or tomorrow? I'll be there likely both days from early 11 through to 4 am.
Would love to meet up with you and any others in town to exchange stories and enjoy time with fellow mongers.
They moan as fake as pornstars. Chinese girls make like little birds noises.I would appreciate to find there one not shaved as I know it from Shanghai, Beijing and some years ago from other Chinese women working in Frankfurt aprtments e. g. Asialadies in Adalbertstrasse 7 a. Unfortunately all Chinese women meanwhile share the complete shaved style in the Y.
ExpatLover
12-13-18, 19:47
I would appreciate to find there one not shaved as I know it from Shanghai, Beijing and some years ago from other Chinese women working in Frankfurt aprtments e. g. Asialadies in Adalbertstrasse 7 a. Unfortunately all Chinese women meanwhile share the complete shaved style in the Y.Just go to China you will find 99 percent of the girls not shaved.
Nick The G
12-14-18, 00:41
Some girls will leave after the Christmas party on this weekend, others will leave next week after Wednesday. So, be prepared that the line-up soon will thin out significantly.
Are there many new German additions in the line up at this club? I don't seem to see that many reviews or discussion about the Germans. I wonder if anyone has any experience with any of them. I guess upselling is pretty much wide spread among the DE providers.
ExpatLover
12-14-18, 08:08
Mostly my experiences with German girls are bad, first of all I am speaking with them in German therefor very easy to understand how most of them have some mental issues, addictions or are simply stupid nevertheless a mood killer, intelligent and pretty German girls don t need to get fucked 10 times or more every day in a FKK club by everyone to earn money so many better opportunities in Germany. Pussy are pussy no matter from Germany, Hungary, Romania, 90% of the girls in the clubs are from Romanian which is not a problem at all. All others considerations are fantasy which is the most powerful Viagra.
Are there many new German additions in the line up at this club? I don't seem to see that many reviews or discussion about the Germans. I wonder if anyone has any experience with any of them. I guess upselling is pretty much wide spread among the DE providers.If you are not a kisser, Tia. De is the prettiest girl at Sharks for me. Also Leoni. De who proposed me 1 h for 100 with kissing, but German kissing? And Mandy. De who is prettier with her new, more sophisticated face look with long hair.
Domenika. Hu moved from and seems happy now, she is a real kisser and a real woman in her body, with pretty face and sophisticated face look. She said I know You from Sharks. I m not a regular since Summer 2017, only when I went for Florentina, but how could I miss her? As I told her: Were You hidden under the bar? For sure she would have been my Sharks girl, but she is better now. Nice discovery, small model walk.
Some girls will leave after the Christmas party on this weekend, others will leave next week after Wednesday. So, be prepared that the line-up soon will thin out significantly.When they will return. I already booked my ticket for January 16 . What to expect?
ExpatLover
12-14-18, 12:47
When they will return. I already booked my ticket for January 16 . What to expect?Until end of January probably 30% less girls, January 2018 was terrible with very poor LU is most of the clubs lasting until mid Feb. Also the most beautiful girls who earned a lot in 18 will take holiday, conclusion reduced LU in quantity but also in quality.
Nick The G
12-14-18, 12:54
When they will return. I already booked my ticket for January 16 . What to expect?Mid of January, well, that is IMHO the worst time. I don't know your expectations, but don't expect too much! Maximum it will be half of the big line-up we have/had right now in December.
One month later would have been much better.
Some of the women say, they will not return again, but who knows. Some of them will be gone for good. Some others say, they want to stay away for some month and then will come back.
Kosher Kowboy
12-14-18, 14:00
Mid of January, well, that is IMHO the worst time. I don't know your expectations, but don't expect too much! Maximum it will be half of the big line-up we have/had right now in December.
One month later would have been much better.
Some of the women say, they will not return again, but who knows. Some of them will be gone for good. Some others say, they want to stay away for some month and then will come back.All True.
When they will return. I already booked my ticket for January 16 . What to expect?What Nick has to say above is all true but it doesn't mean you won't have a good or a great time but as stated do keep your expectations lower than usual. No need to amend your travel plans. I have been in Germany the last few years in early January, as early as January 4 or 5 or arrived about the same time you are. I did Dietzenbach, Mainhatten and Sharks; all different type clubs but all LUs running at roughly 50 percent the usual. I had no issue ever finding a girl in a Sharks depleted LU but coming from where I do Sharks running at 40 to 60 percent capacity is still a paradise. If you are expecting to find the top girls all there or specific ones you want it may turn out you are SOL but there will be others to choose from. I find both December and January to be great months. December full LUs and girls all trying to make the money for their time off and gifts but in January the girls there are going to want to make as much as they can before the masses return so use that to your advantage to strike a few good deals with what is there. There will still be plenty. They have a short window of time to make as much as they can before their competition is back in full, this means opportunity for us.
To the locals it is a great time to do something else or just wait it out until their usual girls return but for us ' fly ins' it still remains a great time. It is always a good time in Germany. I will be there about the same time as you and have no doubt there will be plenty or better said ' enough' for me to choose from. Last January was great at Sharks, was middle of the month too I think. All comes down to the expectations as noted; you will be quite pleased. February would be better, but it isn't like your arrival date is January 2 here; many may be gone but many will slowly be trickling back in especially if your arrival date is the 16 and you will probably be there for several days or more.
I on the other hand will have a rougher time at Dietzenbach as they will be staffed at 6-9 Gypsies tops and with the holidays over it is one of the most crowded time for men as they finally break from the families and crowd it up so demand is way too much and no supply which I think is why I did only Sharks and Mainhatten as supply levels were still great. (for me, as a tourist). For the local German probably not. Don't expect the usual but don't expect to have a bad time either.
Thanks Kosher Kowboy and NickTheG, my travel options are limited, so January is my only option, my expectation will be low, but I hope girls will be back at the time.
ExpatLover
12-14-18, 19:53
Thanks Kosher Kowboy and NickTheG, my travel options are limited, so January is my only option, my expectation will be low, but I hope girls will be back at the time.If you visit the big clubs like Shark or Oase there will be always enough pussy to get satisfied, sometimes the girls are willing to please you more to try to get a new customer.
Was wondering if it's worth going to FKK around holidays time, 12/25 -- 1/5 let's say or if everyone is on vacation? Thank you.
ExpatLover
12-15-18, 06:13
Was wondering if it's worth going to FKK around holidays time, 12/25 -- 1/5 let's say or if everyone is on vacation? Thank you.Many treads about that subject, not the good time at all but you can be lucky and find the right girls.
Are there many new German additions in the line up at this club? I don't seem to see that many reviews or discussion about the Germans. I wonder if anyone has any experience with any of them. I guess upselling is pretty much wide spread among the DE providers.I see the German girls always coming in and out. More experienced visitors can provided more info, but each time I go there I see at least 1 or 2 German girls that I didn't see the previous time.
(I still dream of the room I had with Xiomara who I have yet to see again there). Angelina, the buxom half-Colombian, wasn't there this week but she was there last time.
Always just check the German table between the cafeteria and the bar. They tend to all hang out there.
Yesterday was Christmas party at Sharks.
Club was quite full.
Full of girls. Full of beauties. Full of sick girls. :
I talked to many and maybe 50% of them was sick.
Really pity! That sharks let them even work when they are significant sick.
Even 1 girl had clearly herpes!
Because my little friend, I only had 1 session and was very careful.
Not so much fun, to know that the club / girls don't care about infections.
Pity! An I started to love FKKs.
I am in Frankfurt in mid January, and wish to spend a Sunday in sharks.
My first two FKK's were living room and ACA, both the girls are very happy to do €50 30 minute sessions. So my question is will the good looking girls do this at Sharks? I'm really not interested in spending full hour with a girl, prefer being on my self at club, with 5-6 sessions with cutest girl I can find.
Second question- are there any non Caucasian girls at Sharks? I love my Romanians, but am keen to try other nationalities.
BigBuddy69
12-16-18, 07:42
That's clearly not the place to go if you want a good service for 50 euros.
Member #4636
12-16-18, 08:14
Yesterday was Christmas party at Sharks.
Club was quite full.
Full of girls. Full of beauties. Full of sick girls. :
I talked to many and maybe 50% of them was sick.
Really pity! That sharks let them even work when they are significant sick.
Even 1 girl had clearly herpes!
Because my little friend, I only had 1 session and was very careful.
Not so much fun, to know that the club / girls don't care about infections.
Pity! An I started to love FKKs.This is a very serious statement. When you say sick do you mean that they have flu or something else? [Deleted by Admin]
I can report from my Friday and Thursday visits: While clearly there are 50% romanians or bulgarians, there are quite a few germans (8-10), quite a few girls who a have a more northern look (e. G. Litauania, ungarian), lots of skinny girls, and very busty (natural the or dd) girls.
Service-wise there are 30% of the women ok with decent service for 50 e. But the cutest girls will have a higher price.
I am in Frankfurt in mid January, and wish to spend a Sunday in sharks.
My first two FKK's were living room and ACA, both the girls are very happy to do 50 30 minute sessions. So my question is will the good looking girls do this at Sharks? I'm really not interested in spending full hour with a girl, prefer being on my self at club, with 5-6 sessions with cutest girl I can find.
Second question- are there any non Caucasian girls at Sharks? I love my Romanians, but am keen to try other nationalities.
I should mentzion that during both of my visits, I had a really great time. Sharks has amazing choice. For me quite a few stunners. 2-3 incredible beautiful big-boobers.
I had a good experience with one of the more expensive girls, which asked for 100 e for 30 min and I talked her down to meet at the middle (e. G 70 e) for more service. Compare this with being in Denver, Vegas, NYC, Paris, Dubai, Sydney, (name-your-city), and you should admit that this is very good priced.
I can report from my Friday and Thursday visits: While clearly there are 50% romanians or bulgarians, there are quite a few germans (8-10), quite a few girls who a have a more northern look (e. G. Litauania, ungarian), lots of skinny girls, and very busty (natural the or dd) girls.
Service-wise there are 30% of the women ok with decent service for 50 e. But the cutest girls will have a higher price.
BigBuddy69
12-16-18, 17:53
Compare this with being in Dusseldorf (same country), in Maintal (50 km), in Dierdorf (130 km) or in Neunkirchen (150 km) and you should admit that this is a rip-off.
ExpatLover
12-16-18, 20:42
I can report from my Friday and Thursday visits: While clearly there are 50% romanians or bulgarians, there are quite a few germans (8-10), quite a few girls who a have a more northern look (e. G. Litauania, ungarian), lots of skinny girls, and very busty (natural the or dd) girls.
Service-wise there are 30% of the women ok with decent service for 50 e. But the cutest girls will have a higher price.90% of the girls are from Romania even you can believe they are from Lithuania.
Is Sharks open regular hours around holidays? Is it closed on any days?
Nick The G
12-16-18, 22:25
I can report from my Friday and Thursday visits: While clearly there are 50% romanians or bulgarians, there are quite a few germans (8-10), quite a few girls who a have a more northern look (e. G. Litauania, ungarian), lots of skinny girls, and very busty (natural the or dd) girls.Romanian, bulgarian and moldovan girls contribute more than 85 percent to the lineup at Sharks. I would guess girls from Romania alone contribute 80-85 percent.
Planning to Visit the Frankfurt FKK's after a long time. My Last Visit was not too impressed with the Line-Up in Sharks. Didn't attempt to go to Oase because of the Negative Talk about it being Sharky than ever before. So currently which place has more beautiful faces and is less sharky? Oase or Sharks?
ScoobieDiver
12-18-18, 02:54
I was in Sharks and Mainhattan last week, and here's a few +s and -s for both. I like the size of Sharks as it is huge and has lots more women. You can walk around the place, and not feel cramped at all. The food is also better. I had a bit of a different experience on prices though. When I went on a slow night (Sunday or Monday), it seemed that most would not give a great 30 min experience for 50 E, and instead wanted 100 E. But when I went back on a busy Fri or Sat night, most quoted 50 E for a great 30 min experience. I'm not sure if others have had this experience, but I'm guessing it had to do with many more women competing for business. Any others with similar experiences where pricing differed depending on the night of the week?
Mainhattan is always starting around 100 E for a good 30 min, regardless of what night of the week you go. It's also smaller and so less room to walk around. But there are a few things I like, such as the more calm separate pool / sauna area where you can find some quiet time to sleep and be left alone. I also like the self-serve soft drinks area in the dining room, so you can just go and get your own drinks without having to wait for a bartender. Of course, it is also much closer than Sharks. The selection of women is less, and it could be me, but they seem a bit more business-minded there.
Compare this with being in Denver, Vegas, NYC, Paris, Dubai, Sydney, (name-your-city), and you should admit that this is very good priced.Interesting information here. I've never hobbies in most of the cities you listed for one reason, the penalty if caught by authorities. Another thing I've found is that in countries of similar economic scales, an activity that is legal in one country but illegal in another is usually cheaper in the country where it's legal. Why, those purchasing have to pay for the risk of those providing.
ScoobieDiver
12-18-18, 08:51
Planning to Visit the Frankfurt FKK's after a long time. My Last Visit was not too impressed with the Line-Up in Sharks. Didn't attempt to go to Oase because of the Negative Talk about it being Sharky than ever before. So currently which place has more beautiful faces and is less sharky? Oase or Sharks?Oase is much more sharky than sharks. Both places have sharky ladies but at least sharks has many nicer ones to choose from. As for beautiful faces, I think they're similar.
but they seem a bit more business-minded there.You Mean in Mainhattan right?
Last Friday, I guess there were 80 girls (60 visible at all times, and 20 in the rooms most of the time). So the 12-13 germans alone, disvalidate your claim below. I also know 2 greek girls there. And 3-4 hungarians. Do the math.
Romanian, bulgarian and moldovan girls contribute more than 85 percent to the lineup at Sharks. I would guess girls from Romania alone contribute 80-85 percent.
Kosher Kowboy
12-18-18, 16:46
I had a good experience with one of the more expensive girls, which asked for 100 e for 30 min and I talked her down to meet at the middle (e. G 70 e) for more service. Compare this with being in Denver, Vegas, NYC, Paris, Dubai, Sydney, (name-your-city), and you should admit that this is very good priced.I agree with your sentiment that paying the 100430 ( 50430 better) if great service is a great deal relative to where most of us travel from in North America. However, I would exclude Denver from this list entirely, an apple to an orange the oranges being the other cities listed. Denver is literally the last stop, the last frontier as we head west in the States where one can still find great service in the $250 (even $200) to $300 range for hours, and tons of them and perhaps as high as half the girls will offer half hours for 150-200. I expect after January 1 the shit may hit the fan here in fact this past weekend we 'more likely than not' lost another option in advance of the new year.
Kosher Kowboy
12-18-18, 16:54
less sharky? Oase or Sharks?I think there is no uniform answer to this simply ' monger specific'; there are tons of 50430 left at both and tons of sharky girls at both and in the last year all my visits to both I would call it a wash. Even if one ' has a higher percentage of greedy girls or not' it really is IMHO irrelevant, what is relevant is the ability of the monger himself to persevere and beat them at their own game, and if one can play ball they can find a deal at either place. You ' either have it or you don't' ; I have been able to find what I was looking for at both clubs equally. FWIW we have the ability to simply say ' no' and if one uses that tool enough times at either club eventually a girl will say ' yes' to what the aggressive monger is seeking. The ability to say ' no' and move on to the next or work the girl they told ' no' to harder can potentially save a guy hundreds if not thousands of Euros or dollars or Pesos or any currency over time.
It isn't the club it is the monger. Of course the two city clubs and I guess Artemis start at a higher price level but even there (at least Mainhatten) one can gets Sharks and Oase pricing but takes much more work and time OR they might find service that exceeds the 50430 in the 100430 that well justifies the +50.
IMHO.
The selection of women is less, and it could be me, but they seem a bit more business-minded there.
Excellent comparison in your side by side, and I agree for the most part. I am obviously biased to the Mainhatten girls and perhaps the fact I go there a lot is why I find them so nice to the point money is rarely even discussed, attitudes seem much better and I do notice less hounding if a guy says no they will smile and walk away seems at Sharks they may be a tad more persistent with the ' why not's'
But we are shaped by our experiences, and I am sure if I never went to Mainhatten and spent all by time at Sharks for the most part ( or Oase) or anywhere such as World etc that I would probably be biased to the girls in that club. One other note on Mainhatten, I do know a lot of guys are paying more than 100430 or 150460 and per a few girls I know they say they ask for the moon because they can screw ( no pun intended) the guys out of it so you are probably right. To the average guy who walks in to Mainahtten vs Sharks they will probably find the Sharks easier to work with..
Jooeey. To comment on your recent question here and a couple of your questions elsewhere recently, it is hard to say Oase or Sharks are more or less sharky than each other. And yes, DFK is getting harder to get in a 50 euro session. FKK has changed from your visits of years ago: good service at 50430 can be found but you need to be prepared to go by your instincts, watch and observe, and use the magic word "no".
No longer can we assume that going to a room for 50 euros will achieve good service in 9 out of 10 cases. I don't know how long you have but it is a good idea if you can to try to establish yourself as a repeat visitor, in other words, someone who is pleasant for the girls to see, and more importantly, a continuing source of euros.It is about choosing the right girls, and being seen by your rejects as, over time, a desirable object. Of course this is hard for infrequent visitors in large clubs, which is why I tend to avoid these two clubs
BarryManila
12-18-18, 19:22
Romanian, bulgarian and moldovan girls contribute more than 85 percent to the lineup at Sharks. I would guess girls from Romania alone contribute 80-85 percent.
Last Friday, I guess there were 80 girls (60 visible at all times, and 20 in the rooms most of the time). So the 12-13 germans alone, disvalidate your claim below.
I also know 2 greek girls there. And 3-4 hungarians. Do the math.At Kuni042.
Believe it or not. 80-85 percent are from Romania. And 2 greek girls? Forget that Kylie is from Greece. She's from North Korea.
Nick The G
12-18-18, 22:01
Last Friday, I guess there were 80 girls (60 visible at all times, and 20 in the rooms most of the time). So the 12-13 germans alone, disvalidate your claim below. I also know 2 greek girls there. And 3-4 hungarians. Do the math.Last Wednesday, there were more than 120 girls. The last weekend, Friday to Sunday, was Christmas party weekend and the last big chance to harvest money for many of the girls. Reliable sources on a german forum report that on Saturday there were approx. 150 girls there. And true, more german girls as usual were there for the party only. I don't assume that on Friday there were significantly less girls at Sharks altogether.
So it might be the time to calculate again! Do it again, Kuni042!
Last Wednesday, there were more than 120 girls. The last weekend, Friday to Sunday, was Christmas party weekend and the last big chance to harvest money for many of the girls. Reliable sources on a german forum report that on Saturday there were approx. 150 girls there. And true, more german girls as usual were there for the party only. I don't assume that on Friday there were significantly less girls at Sharks altogether.
So it might be the time to calculate again! Do it again, Kuni042!I was there last Wednesday. I saw far less than 120 girls, I'm afraid. Unless they were all there in the early afternoon and all left by 7pm.
A very large number, to be sure, but definitely not past 80.
I could be wrong, but that's what I saw. The L-U is obviously supposed to be less this time of year in mid-december.
Perhaps we counted very differently, but that was what I saw.
Horny Harry
12-18-18, 22:11
Last Friday, I guess there were 80 girls (60 visible at all times, and 20 in the rooms most of the time). So the 12-13 germans alone, disvalidate your claim below. I also know 2 greek girls there. And 3-4 hungarians. Do the math.2 Greeks? You mean Elektra / Kylie is 'Greek,' just like Angelica is 'Egyptian?' Easy to fool clueless US tourists.
I agree with Nick The G here.
GuyFromParis
12-18-18, 22:58
Last Wednesday, there were more than 120 girls. The last weekend, Friday to Sunday, was Christmas party weekend and the last big chance to harvest money for many of the girls. Reliable sources on a german forum report that on Saturday there were approx. 150 girls there. And true, more german girls as usual were there for the party only. I don't assume that on Friday there were significantly less girls at Sharks altogether.
So it might be the time to calculate again! Do it again, Kuni042!In fact, there were more girls on Friday than on Saturday. From 8 pm to midnight, all rooms were busy, sometimes we had to wait for more than 20 minutes to have a room. On Saturday, it was more easy if I have to compare. About the german girls, I saw approximately the same than usual. Among them, Mandy and Tia.
On last week end, I was welcome by a ex Sharks girl, she said I know you from Sharks, really bad I never noticed her at Sharks, she would have been my real woman, really high level in bed with woman behavior, even only 21 yo, when it was only disappointing visits since my top class girl on mid June, with no room on Friday 30 November. Funny how girls are talkative when they leave Sharks, she seemed very happy with her new kind of clients.
Compare to Sharks nights. Really generous, no upselling, now she pay only 65 € to work, with condom and sleeping, versus 125 at Sharks, 1h30 to be fucked as she said. 2h30 with her between Thursday and Friday nights, she was really enjoyable. She said average business, when she would be one of the prettiest, is about only 400 € per day at Sharks at the moment with 125 to pay to work and sleep, about 1700 per week, when some girls in Germany make 5000 per week.
I have been in this week with a blonde girl with the name Latifa that made my day with what she can do. Latifa is the no 1 girl that I met in my life. Tomorrow I fly back to you. S and I will miss her. It is a blonde girl with a snake tattoo that was very nice and kind and beautiful. Don t miss Latifa guys she is awesome!
ExpatLover
12-19-18, 12:14
On last week end, I was welcome by a ex Sharks girl, she said I know you from Sharks, really bad I never noticed her at Sharks, she would have been my real woman, really high level in bed with woman behavior, even only 21 yo, when it was only disappointing visits since my top class girl on mid June, with no room on Friday 30 November. Funny how girls are talkative when they leave Sharks, she seemed very happy with her new kind of clients.
Compare to Sharks nights. Really generous, no upselling, now she pay only 65 to work, with condom and sleeping, versus 125 at Sharks, 1h30 to be fucked as she said. 2h30 with her between Thursday and Friday nights, she was really enjoyable. She said average business, when she would be one of the prettiest, is about only 400 per day at Sharks at the moment with 125 to pay to work and sleep, about 1700 per week, when some girls in Germany make 5000 per week.I don't know which girl is able to make 5000 euros a week, but this was possible 2 or 3 years back but now it seems extremely hard to get 5000 per week every week for a long period of time, it is at least what the girls are telling me.
At Kuni042.
Believe it or not. 80-85 percent are from Romania. And 2 greek girls? Forget that Kylie is from Greece. She's from North Korea.Maybe about maximum 20 not Romanians, but Romanians are usually my best GF in bed, even at expensive Globe. I m pretty sure I would choose Romanian beauties at Aphrodisia Zurich city for 500/ h. On average, Germans or Polish or Hungarians can t compete for super GFE in bed. Only Latvians or Russians are on same level.
Member #4636
12-19-18, 21:08
At Kuni042.
Believe it or not. 80-85 percent are from Romania. And 2 greek girls? Forget that Kylie is from Greece. She's from North Korea.There are no Greek girls working in FKK clubs. I don't know why that fool on guys telling them they are Greek maybe they believe they are Aphrodite's sister or something? LOL.
The girls that introduce themselves like Greeks are born and raised in Germany probably from a Greek parent and most of them cannot even speak green properly.
Gaolegao366
12-19-18, 23:21
Arrived sharks around 8 PM on last Friday, turned out there was a Christmas party going on that day. The club was full of clients and girls, most of the girls are busy and making great business. Many girls just went up to the pole dance area and start dancing. I remember there was one girl was really good at pole dancing, I was on my way to the room with Francesca, however, she stopped me and asked to stay next to the bar a little bit longer so we could watch that girl dance. Later on that night, Jessica and her friend Cheyenne also put on a great show on the dance floor. For that moment, they were just like top elite strippers in the high-end strip clubs in the US (I have only been to the strip clubs in the US and not sure about other countries) guys would spend thousands of dollars or beg them to even have a private lap dance after that the guys would still think all the money they spend is worth it.
Anyway, on Friday the music was exceptional and the whole club was an actual party. I haven't had that much fun for a really long time, to be honest. Since last year more girls come to the club so the quality of line up dropped so quickly and they have to compete for clients, meanwhile, clients complain there were no real stunners in the club. Even during a normal Friday night, business is usually Ok but not great. Staffs in sharks also increased the quality of food, more options and better than what they always have before. After each room, I was kind of looking forward to going to the kitchen to eat more every time.
I only took Francesca to the room on Friday, her service is always great, we have known each other since she switched from club bartender to normal worker. As for Saturday, I was in the room with two girls separately, they serve standard service but I do not think I would repeat with them. After that, I had a great time with Cheyenne. She just changed her hair color from completely blond to dirty blond. Normally she sits with Jessica and Emily. Too bad Emily was not there last weekend. Cheyenne is that kind of girl people would normally think her as an Instagram model, a real beauty. Guys would spend one thousand dollars at least for escorts in major cities like New York City or LOS Angeles. I am just glad economy in Eastern European countries is not doing great so we all get the chance to spend way less money to have a great time with girls like her. IMO, of course, as customers in the club we do want to spend as less as possible and get as many and great service as possible. The ideal scenario would be 50 euro, we get BBBJ, DFK, GFE, anal and CIM. However, if there is no such things like FKK exist, we would all have to go somewhere else either spend more money or get shitty service with the same money we could spend in FKK. Sometimes, we should appreciate how lucky we are. I know the things I wrote before might just come out from nowhere it is because girls complain sometimes that customers only pay the minimum and want to get as much as they could from the girls.
Many of the girls will go home for Christmas after this week and come back around mid or end of January. So probably the better time to visit would be after January.
ExpatLover
12-20-18, 10:39
Arrived sharks around 8 PM on last Friday, turned out there was a Christmas party going on that day. The club was full of clients and girls, most of the girls are busy and making great business. Many girls just went up to the pole dance area and start dancing. I remember there was one girl was really good at pole dancing, I was on my way to the room with Francesca, however, she stopped me and asked to stay next to the bar a little bit longer so we could watch that girl dance. Later on that night, Jessica and her friend Cheyenne also put on a great show on the dance floor. For that moment, they were just like top elite strippers in the high-end strip clubs in the US (I have only been to the strip clubs in the US and not sure about other countries) guys would spend thousands of dollars or beg them to even have a private lap dance after that the guys would still think all the money they spend is worth it.
Anyway, on Friday the music was exceptional and the whole club was an actual party. I haven't had that much fun for a really long time, to be honest. Since last year more girls come to the club so the quality of line up dropped so quickly and they have to compete for clients, meanwhile, clients complain there were no real stunners in the club. Even during a normal Friday night, business is usually Ok but not great. Staffs in sharks also increased the quality of food, more options and better than what they always have before. After each room, I was kind of looking forward to going to the kitchen to eat more every time..So many other options to get great sex without paying, for me the best sex I never had was not with a prostitute, okay to go with prostitutes is the easiest way but not the best one at least for me.
Jooeey. To comment on your recent question here and a couple of your questions elsewhere recently, it is hard to say Oase or Sharks are more or less sharky than each other. And yes, DFK is getting harder to get in a 50 euro session. FKK has changed from your visits of years ago: good service at 50430 can be found but you need to be prepared to go by your instincts, watch and observe, and use the magic word "no".
No longer can we assume that going to a room for 50 euros will achieve good service in 9 out of 10 cases. I don't know how long you have but it is a good idea if you can to try to establish yourself as a repeat visitor, in other words, someone who is pleasant for the girls to see, and more importantly, a continuing source of euros.It is about choosing the right girls, and being seen by your rejects as, over time, a desirable object. Of course this is hard for infrequent visitors in large clubs, which is why I tend to avoid these two clubsYep! I agree being an infrequent visitor to these clubs makes it more tough to get an exceptional service, so yes going by one's own instincts may help. But it is always wise to ask for a general consensus here right? Which is what I am doing. The Reason I believe in going for 50 Euros is for a couple of reasons, You get to try more girls, if you are not carrying huge amount of money, you don't get bored, the girls do not get bored of you and on top of that there is no guarantee for the first round if I can go that long (At least with me), and finishing fast in the first go and waiting inside the room with the girl to get ready and refill for the second round I don't know how feasible that is. So a couple of things, but I guess once I am there based on the Vibes of the girls, your chemistry and the trend there these are certain decision which have to be taken on the spot. But someone pointed out this early. Oase still remains the Sharkiest place of the two, which is sad because back in 2014 when I visited Oase for the first time I was quite impressed with the Optics and girls there.
Nick The G
12-20-18, 13:48
There are no Greek girls working in FKK clubs. I don't know why that fool on guys telling them they are Greek maybe they believe they are Aphrodite's sister or something? LOL.
The girls that introduce themselves like Greeks are born and raised in Germany probably from a Greek parent and most of them cannot even speak greek properly.There have been greek girls at Sharks. I remember two. One of them was the exceptional Vana in summer 2017.
Aphrodite, and Bella (behind the bar), speak greek very well, even though they are romanian.
Kosher Kowboy
12-20-18, 15:02
There have been greek girls at Sharks. I remember two. One of them was the exceptional Vana in summer 2017.
Aphrodite, and Bella (behind the bar), speak greek very well, even though they are romanian.Nick,
There might be one more. Her name started with a 'C**' . I saw her once for 50 and the next time I talked to her she refused to go for under 100 telling me I take others for 100 and that I was a cheap Charlie. She religiously sat at the ' rounded' corner of the bar ( right in Patricia's view from her couch, directly in front of the Moldovan Princess :D ) and opposite the the corner where the Hungarian girls sit next to the German section. She had medium / long dark hair, tied up half the time, bright red lipstick sometimes pink, huge man made headlights and had a very distinct chest tattoo that ended between her breasts. Medium frame. She gave a great blowjob, but developed an attitude to me since I didn't think she was worth 100, two way street I guess. Anyway, I met a guy from Athens in Sharks and I did hear her yapping at him in Greek although my guess is she is Romanian (as she was yapping in Romanian to the other girls) and just speaks Greek maybe a parent was, a grandparent or perhaps she worked as a WG in Greece, who knows. Not sure if she is really Greek or just speaks the language. You would know better. ??
Kosher Kowboy
12-20-18, 15:36
I only took Francesca to the room on Friday, her service is always great, we have known each other since she switched from club bartender to normal worker. Is there more than one Francesca at Sharks? I never knew one that tended the bar and became a WG but first time in Sharks for me was late 2016 early winter 2017 so maybe this preceded such. The one I went with was on the older side of the LU as a whole probably late 20's wouldn't shock me if young 30's and sat on the couch directly before the stairs to the hot tubs that look up the stairs, to her right in the sitting position would be Betty in her chair under fish tank and to her left just over her shoulder Patricia. She has a very full set of pussy lips, a delight to chew on. Great attitude, non rushed service, didn't upsell or ask for a tip; would happily repeat.
Trying to track down my favorite Sharks of past given I know little of the LU now and a trip looms and with the Gypsies misbehaving (the actions of three will get all punished) and more likely than not being put on a ' trip's probation' and skipped for the month of January (come February they will stop asking for money with sob stories) will end up in Darmstadt a few times it looks like and I just can't wait to get my 65 e worth (or 50 e) making full use of the wellness center, eating their lavish buffets and of course using the basin in the back bathroom of the men's locker room!
And giving away my money for services rendered to deserving ladies such as the Francesca I went with (not sure if the same one been reading about recently is the same one I met).
:D
Member #4636
12-20-18, 17:48
There have been greek girls at Sharks. I remember two. One of them was the exceptional Vana in summer 2017.
Aphrodite, and Bella (behind the bar), speak greek very well, even though they are romanian.FKK clubs are not popular in Greece I am almost 99 % sure these girls you meet that speak Greek are not born and raised in Greece and decided to move and work in Germany.
They probably as you said have one parent and they speak a few words but not the kind of girls that would leave the country and work there. I am not surprised that they speak Romanian or other language, My Francesca in Sharks speaks fluently Italian LOL.
Is somebody going to Sharks tomorrow Friday?
I'd like to know if Angelina (Colombian / German, dark hair, tattoos, silicone) will be there this week-end, specially this Saturday.
I phoned the staff but they can't tell.
Nick The G
12-20-18, 22:05
FKK clubs are not popular in GreeceI am sure everyone who has been to Greece and who came to know the system recognized that the laws are different and the orthodox church has a mighty influence, the church itself would never allow a FKK-club similar to those in Germany, nowhere.
I am almost 99 % sure these girls you meet that speak Greek are not born and raised in Greece and decided to move and work in Germany.Vana came from Greece. She met a german working girl who was on vacation in Greece. Maybe due to the bad economical circumstances in Greece Vana followed her to Germany to work in Sharks for some time.
It is absolutely not necessary to transfigure the greek women as holy virgins, while the greek men, especially those "kamaki's", fuck the female tourists like rabbits.
https://www.tripsavvy.com/what-is-greek-kamaki-1526318
Nick The G
12-20-18, 22:42
Nick, There might be one more. Her name started with a 'C**' . ....
Not sure if she is really Greek or just speaks the language. You would know better. ??Sorry, no!
But now I remember the name of the other greek woman I mentioned: Elena / Eléni. She was in Sharks October to early December 2016.
Member #4636
12-21-18, 06:26
It is absolutely not necessary to transfigure the greek women as holy virgins, while the greek men, especially those "kamaki's", fuck the female tourists like rabbits.
https://www.tripsavvy.com/what-is-greek-kamaki-1526318They are not holy virgins they are bigger working girls then the ones that work in Germany. I am sure that when they find out about FKK they will all move there LOL.
Kamaki men are not popular anymore. This started when Scandinavian women mainly came to Rhodes alone and to have some fun. They were looking for the Greek lover and then were opening wide their legs just for one drink. But this was back in the 80's, the teenagers today are not like that and most of the young ladies are gold diggers following the global trend.
I was on my way to the room with Francesca,
I only took Francesca to the room on Friday, her service is always great, we have known each other since she switched from club bartender to normal worker.
Many of the girls will go home for Christmas after this week and come back around mid or end of January. So probably the better time to visit would be after January.
I think we might be talking about the same Francesca as I mentioned in my Sharks report. Is she a tall blonde girl?
My report for my day at Sharks.
One if the great things I noticed about Sharks is that they provide Hair Gel, which helps greatly with my game. Not sure why Oase or any of the other clubs don't provide this.
Anyway, I got to Sharks around 12 pm on a Saturday. Lineup was not bad, but I decided to sit around, until someone really got my motors running. Waited till about 3 pm eating the food and relaxing. Then saw Francesca walk into the club. Attraction at first sight. She is really tall, maybe 6 2. Waited around in the area to the left of the bar and finally saw her coming out. Grabbed her attention and sat down with her. Agreed to go to the room for E100 for 1 hour. We took one of the rooms upstairs and kept the window open since it was Hot. She told me to wait for a couple of minutes while she went to freshen up. I got some time to get my little guy up. When she came back in she saw me hard and I think got a little turned on by it. Went straight to BBBJ, then some pussy licking, then standing doggy. Since she is so tall, it was a little hard to be comfortable. Switched to doggy on the bed, this went on for 10 minutes and was great. She is a great moaner. Finished in missionary. We still had about 20 minutes to go. Cleaned up and she asked me if I wanted to go again. She put a tissue on my cock and I teased her like I was going to enter her without any protection. Of course I didn't, but it was arousing to be held back by her legs. I couldn't get him up again in those 20 minutes. She spent the remaining time dancing provocatively and grinding me. For the rest of the evening, we made eye contact many times and she would check how I was doing. I will definitely repeat. She told me she was 27, but she looked much younger. I've also never seen her name mentioned on this forum, which is unusual since she seems like the girl every man would be lining up for. She felt like a great GFE, which is something I was looking for.
I also took another girl to the room, but I forget her name. It wasn't great, but probably because I was done with my 1 pop for the day.
Horny Harry
12-21-18, 11:50
She religiously sat at the ' rounded' corner of the bar ( right in Patricia's view from her couch, directly in front of the Moldovan Princess . Ah yes, the Moldovan Princess. Had a great PSE 3 sum at the beginning of this year with Patricia and her lesbian sidekick Julie, both from Moldova. They always sit together at the sofa in between the bar and the stairs to the caves.
Of course, YMMV if there is no spark, but for some reason both Julie and Patricia were in a dirty nasty pornstar mood and absolutely devoured me that particular day. One of the best PSE fucks in my life and it was great fun to watch and participate in licking and fingering their pussies and giving both of them orgasms, or them giving me a BJ while french kissing each other.
Both are not shy about some hardcore fucking.
I have not repeated a 3 some with them simply because I don't think we can repeat that particular day, although I have sessioned with each of them individually since then.
ExpatLover
12-21-18, 13:35
My report for my day at Sharks.
One if the great things I noticed about Sharks is that they provide Hair Gel, which helps greatly with my game. Not sure why Oase or any of the other clubs don't provide this.
Anyway, I got to Sharks around 12 pm on a Saturday. Lineup was not bad, but I decided to sit around, until someone really got my motors running. Waited till about 3 pm eating the food and relaxing. Then saw Francesca walk into the club. Attraction at first sight. She is really tall, maybe 6 2. Waited around in the area to the left of the bar and finally saw her coming out. Grabbed her attention and sat down with her. Agreed to go to the room for E100 for 1 hour. We took one of the rooms upstairs and kept the window open since it was Hot. She told me to wait for a couple of minutes while she went to freshen up. I got some time to get my little guy up. When she came back in she saw me hard and I think got a little turned on by it. Went straight to BBBJ, then some pussy licking, then standing doggy. Since she is so tall, it was a little hard to be comfortable. Switched to doggy on the bed, this went on for 10 minutes and was great. She is a great moaner. Finished in missionary. We still had about 20 minutes to go.Most of the top girls are not mentioned on this forum, do you really believe I will ever mention them, never believe what is written on any forum on internet as long the guys or woman are not giving their real name.
ExpatLover
12-21-18, 13:49
Is somebody going to Sharks tomorrow Friday?
I'd like to know if Angelina (Colombian / German, dark hair, tattoos, silicone) will be there this week-end, specially this Saturday.
I phoned the staff but they can't tell.Nobody is able to tell you if a girl will come tomorrow or not, even the girl doesn't know, most of them are also doing escort if they can find a good customer for the next day they will not come to the club.
Kosher Kowboy
12-22-18, 01:00
Ah yes, the Moldovan Princess. Had a great PSE 3 sum at the beginning of this year with Patricia and her lesbian sidekick Julie, both from Moldova. They always sit together at the sofa in between the bar and the stairs to the caves.
Of course, YMMV if there is no spark, but for some reason both Julie and Patricia were in a dirty nasty pornstar mood and absolutely devoured me that particular day. One of the best PSE fucks in my life and it was great fun to watch and participate in licking and fingering their pussies and giving both of them orgasms, or them giving me a BJ while french kissing each other.
Both are not shy about some hardcore fucking.
I have not repeated a 3 some with them simply because I don't think we can repeat that particular day, although I have sessioned with each of them individually since then.Thanks very much for sharing, great info to know. I have been doing many doubles just at another less expensive place :D
I have met Julie. I met her when Patricia called me over to meet her friend. Hindsight is always 20/20 but Julie probably would have treated me well but I was already set up to go with Francesca that day at that time so I can't really say I regret that choice. There is always tomorrow, or next month, their interaction sounds quite exciting and one reason I do not not doubles in some of these nicer clubs is the girls wipe each others spit off the guys cock in between blowjobs and don't blow in unison and IMO if they can't both chew on a cock the same time it is not worth the money.
I wonder how this double compares in quality and price to the well discussed (at least privately) double up the road at Oase with two of their well known popular Queens. (expensive ones).
Someone else also suggested Mandy and some other (might be German) girl who is all inked up names starts I think with a ' L' , can't recall for sure.
For my third and final trip of the year to Frankfurt, I had set aside 4 days and my plan was to visit Sharks, Palace and Oase in that order and return to the best of the lot on the last day. Unfortunately I had to curtail my trip to 2 days so decided to stick to Sharks and Palace as guess I've spent more time at Oase over the years.
Got to Sharks at around 5 pm and it was E50 entry for a Wednesday. Outside Fridays and Saturdays, in my experience Wednesday at Sharks is the best day at any Hessen Club as you pretty much get the full line up. Were good numbers of girls, perhaps 80-90 and a lot of new faces. The quality was also high. Perhaps not too many show stopping bombshells but there were perhaps 15-20 very fuckable girls, many of whom I had not seen before. .
Sunita:- I usually end up with a blonde first as good ones are relatively rare in Dubai and a lot of the new stunners were young blondes. Sunita falls short of this category but her pre-room talk and caresses got me hard and although she was not on my mental shortlist, I wasn't now thinking straight. Pretty face, slim, nice natural figure with perky handful of a pair and a tan. Fake blonde long hair. In many ways she's a generic FKK girl.
In the room however she was annoying with her upsells. Wanting extra for "GFE" also for BBJ and trying to sell an hour before demonstrating she was worth a prolonged session. I said I was happy to give her an extra E50 for CIM or COF as per the traditional price but I wasn't going to pay extra for BBJ in itself. Blowie was fairly decent but nothing special and she was still annoying me with asking if I wanted an hour. I decided to end the session with cumming on her face as I had a big load to deposit and thought I'd enjoy the visual so I straddled her face and wanked over her mouth. She was covering her eyes with her hand which somewhat spoiled the effect but was a satisfactory end to what was otherwise a sub-par session. E100.
Ester and Elizabeth:- Thinking about it now, it was Ester who got me hard which made me vulnerable to Sunita who approached me just after I had a catch up with Ester. I've been with her quite a few times in the past so when she sees me she comes and sits on my lap for 10 minutes and gives me some soft kisses and caresses whilst we catch up. I told her that I'd take her for my second session so I could devour her for a full hour whereas for my first session I wouldn't be able to last more than 30 minutes.
Ester is pretty much my type of girl. Facially stunning, slim but not skinny, smooth skin and nice tits. A natural beauty. You often see girls arrive or leave the club sans make up and in their normal clothes and if you saw most of them on the street you wouldn't look at them twice whereas Ester would turn heads in any context. Service wise she has got better with time and as I've become a regular, I do believe I get her A game. I worked out that I've now seen her 8 times now which equals the record with any FKK girl (she shares the accolade with my beloved Fidan who left Oase perhaps 4 years ago but who always brings a warm glow when I think of her).
I'm very partial to threesomes but these days tend to choose a regular and then pick one of her friends or another girl she is comfortable with to minimise the risk of it going wrong. When I was ready, Ester was chatting to a cute, petite brunette who had caught my eye in any event. Elizabeth has natural perky tits and is facially pretty. We were waiting for a room for ages but enjoyed having one of them on each leg whilst waiting.
It was as I fully expected a fantastic session. FK with both of them. Had a good feast on Elizabeth's tits and ate her out for a bit; had them both taking turns to suck me off whilst the other gave me some nipple play (which I adore) and also a double header; Elizabeth was probably the better at giving a BJ and at times she went really deep; I then did Elizabeth a bit in missionary and then Ester in doggy before back to the blow jobs; Ester moved towards getting into a 69 whilst Elizabeth was blowing me but asked her to sit on my face instead whilst my hands were all over her smooth and lithe body. I couldn't hold much longer and ended up cumming in Elizabeth's mouth whilst Ester was still sat on my face. E250.
Ayesha:- There were perhaps half a dozen or so new young, petite blondes I'd not seen before. 3 of them were real cuties and probably in their early 20's but could pass for 18/19. All had natural tits which I prefer and no tattoos which I don't like. One of them was Ayesha and whisked her to the room. She wanted an extra E50 for bbj which I said I wasn't interested in paying in itself but I was happy to incorporate it and finish with CIM and so she could earn her extra that way. We quite literally shook hands on it.
Very little foreplay but an amazing blowjob which far surpassed what I had expected. Lots of licking, different speeds, varying suction, good eye contact, she knows where the mirror is and uses that well as she's obviously alive to how we like the visuals and what I really liked was her corkscrew motion which added extra tingles! I came well before the 30 minutes mark which given it was my third shot of the night came as a surprise and was also a testimony to her skills. In the post coital bliss, she revealed she liked giving blowjobs and knew she was good at it and said she had tried lots of different techniques to perfect her skills and compared it to other girls who just go up and down. A craftswoman who has honed her skills. I would have been happy spending a whole hour with her and I'd suggest she needs to work on her foreplay to get the longer bookings and following but she's very good at what she does. E100.
Angelika:- I went to recuperate, first with a massage from the lovely Thai masseuse and then tried to have a nap which is difficult as there is no quiet area and compared to its competitors, it is not a particularly comfortable club to lounge around in between session. By the time I had risen from my slumber, it was very late and a lot of girls had left and were occupied (it does empty very quickly by 2 am). One woman who was also on her way to leave was Angelika who is a middle aged, Lithuanian with a huge arse but also has big tits. Facially she is impressive and I'm sure in her heyday she was a stunner. There is something that I find incredibly erotic about her (perhaps because it feels so wrong when the place is littered with slim, young girls in their 20's). Angelika is also a lovely lady and provides excellent service. After some FK and a good grope and suck of her tits, I lay down and let her do her magic. Tantalising foreplay and another fantastic blowjob delivered by her whilst she was tweaking my nipples with her fingers. She knows how to get me off. Its rare I get to a 4th shot these days but it wasn't a problem with Angelika. E50.
Overall, a fantastic and very enjoyable night with only one sub-par performance. I left wanting more and as the quality and quantity was so high, I'm certain that unless one of my two Oase favourites had miraculously come out of retirement (Fidan and Jennifer) I'd have come back to Sharks for more helpings.
Horny Harry
12-22-18, 13:44
I have met Julie. I met her when Patricia called me over to meet her friend. Hindsight is always 20/20 but Julie probably would have treated me well but I was already set up to go with Francesca that day at that time so I can't really say I regret that choice. Oh well, next time! As you said, there will be another day.
Again, as I said before, perhaps I was just (very!) lucky that they were both in a horny mood and perhaps just wanted to have some fun on the job, and I was the lucky 'victim' who was at the right place at the right time so to speak. YMMV.
I've been with Julie and Patricia separately, and although quite good, it was nowhere near as good as during that one 3 sum where the sparks were flying.
I think it's dangerous, both for my wallet as well as for my psyche, to try to repeat past experiences, because if you're not careful you'll get addicted to a particular girl and it becomes an obsession to repeat or even outperform previous sexual experiences. An obsession and addiction that of course suits the ladies quite well, but us men end up the same as outside the FKK world: enslaved to women and paying for it dearly. Been there, done that with a hooker, and got the t-shirt. Never again!
Due to the above-mentioned reasons I've been deliberately ignoring Patricia and Julie for about 3-4 months now, always leading to a flirtatious look that turns into a 'hurt' look when I don't take them to a room, but I'm sure that in 2019 there will be a time for them again.
In that sense I really liked Barbie (DE) with whom I would also have great PSE sessions, but she was really cool about me having sessions with other women. She'd always say:" you're here to have fun and we're not married, so don't feel pressured that we have to go to a room whenever we spot each other. " A real pro and a nice gal, in a positive sense. Unfortunately she switched to GT about 1/2 year ago, and the few times I visited GT I've never seen her there because she usually works 10-14 days and then takes the rest of the month off. Pity she left Sharks, but for her GT is much easier because she's from NRW.
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There have been greek girls at Sharks. I remember two. One of them was the exceptional Vana in summer 2017.
Aphrodite, and Bella (behind the bar), speak greek very well, even though they are romanian.Vana was indeed exceptional and was lucky to catch her and she was so good I repeated with her the same day which is rare for me. In fact she did enough to be in my fabled Top 15 of FKK girls out of 180 so I'm not damning her with faint praise). I assume she disapeared from the scene altogether or is elsewhere?
I think we might be talking about the same Francesca as I mentioned in my Sharks report. Is she a tall blonde girl?I think you may be talking about Franciska? Tall, slim, blonde girl, natural tits and figure and almost has a schoolmistress look about her? She normally stands on the bar near the canteen side?
Nick The G
12-22-18, 22:12
Due to the above-mentioned reasons I've been deliberately ignoring Patricia and Julie for about 3-4 months now, always leading to a flirtatious look that turns into a 'hurt' look when I don't take them to a room, but I'm sure that in 2019 there will be a time for them again.Patricia is professional enough to play that game and to not feel hurt in any way if it doesn't work. And she is one of the best service providers over the years.
In that sense I really liked Barbie (DE) with whom I would also have great PSE sessions, but she was really cool about me having sessions with other women. She'd always say:" you're here to have fun and we're not married, so don't feel pressured that we have to go to a room whenever we spot each other. " A real pro and a nice gal, in a positive sense.The philippine Marlyn has the same point of view and same attitude.
Nick The G
12-22-18, 22:21
Had a good feast on Elizabeth's tits and ate her out for a bit; had them both taking turns to suck me off whilst the other gave me some nipple play (which I adore) and also a double header; Elizabeth was probably the better at giving a BJ and at times she went really deep; I then did Elizabeth a bit in missionary and then Ester in doggy before back to the blow jobs; Ester moved towards getting into a 69 whilst Elizabeth was blowing me but asked her to sit on my face instead whilst my hands were all over her smooth and lithe body. I couldn't hold much longer and ended up cumming in Elizabeth's mouth whilst Ester was still sat on my face.Hold on to your memories. I heard some bird singing, that Elizabeth, who turned 36 a couple of days ago, will not come back in 2019 to Sharks. With regards to this type of work it sounds she is gone for good.
I think you may be talking about Franciska? Tall, slim, blonde girl, natural tits and figure and almost has a schoolmistress look about her? She normally stands on the bar near the canteen side?Yeah likely. She fits the description. Any idea if she is at the club now? I will be visiting on 24th.
Vito Corleone
12-23-18, 07:33
Yeah likely. She fits the description. Any idea if she is at the club now? I will be visiting on 24th.She's planning to stay till the 28th.
Kosher Kowboy
12-23-18, 14:08
If My memory serves me correct, she is the same matured looking, a little old lady who keeps sitting on the Bar Stool with her body covered like a towel wrapped around her body not showing anything! Right? I mean one can easily identify her looking a bit lost and aloof amidst the mostly very young Sharks girls.Correct, always at the same bar spot near the German tables on that side of the bar, almost a fixture in that seat at least when I am there. She is there very early in the day usually opens the place; in fact my first trip to Sharks ever she was the first one who talked to me. She is a very nice girl (lady) but not for me; she does seem to have a following; is sometimes (not always) employed more than some of the younger ones.
HappyShiva
12-23-18, 15:46
Hold on to your memories. I heard some bird singing, that Elizabeth, who turned 36 a couple of days ago, will not come back in 2019 to Sharks. With regards to this type of work it sounds she is gone for good.Nick.
I remember meeting you at sharks in January and you suggested me Elizabeth. I had beautiful experience with her. I am visiting sharks on January 24 until 27 and I am very disappointed that she will not be available. I hope meeting you again.
Correct, always at the same bar spot near the German tables on that side of the bar, almost a fixture in that seat at least when I am there. She is there very early in the day usually opens the place; in fact my first trip to Sharks ever she was the first one who talked to me. She is a very nice girl (lady) but not for me; she does seem to have a following; is sometimes (not always) employed more than some of the younger ones.Angelika can be relied upon to give good service every time.
Yesterday was Christmas party at Sharks.
Club was quite full.
Full of girls. Full of beauties. Full of sick girls. :
I talked to many and maybe 50% of them was sick.
Really pity! That sharks let them even work when they are significant sick.
Even 1 girl had clearly herpes!
Because my little friend, I only had 1 session and was very careful.
Not so much fun, to know that the club / girls don't care about infections.
Pity! An I started to love FKKs.
This is a very serious statement. When you say sick do you mean that they have flu or something else? I could not possibly believe that no one followed up on this serious issue. Anyone saw anything going on at the club? Work while being sick? Infections? Are you kidding? This doesn't seem to conern you mongers? I've observed a pattern that as soon as the discussion of STD was brought up, people seem to want to pivot to a different kind of discussion. Is it too taboo to talk about it? Don't want to make a big deal out of it?
Member #4636
12-24-18, 06:28
I could not possibly believe that no one followed up on this serious issue. Anyone saw anything going on at the club? Work while being sick? Infections? Are you kidding? This doesn't seem to conern you mongers? I've observed a pattern that as soon as the discussion of STD was brought up, people seem to want to pivot to a different kind of discussion. Is it too taboo to talk about it? Don't want to make a big deal out of it?I was also very surprised that no one followed even when I started. I think that guy meant they had flu but on the other hand he mentioned herpes as well. He should come back and clarify.
HappyShiva
12-24-18, 06:38
I could not possibly believe that no one followed up on this serious issue. Anyone saw anything going on at the club? Work while being sick? Infections? Are you kidding? This doesn't seem to conern you mongers? I've observed a pattern that as soon as the discussion of STD was brought up, people seem to want to pivot to a different kind of discussion. Is it too taboo to talk about it? Don't want to make a big deal out of it?Sharks is a reputable brothel in the world and mongers come from different countries. I am sure that girls must be periodically screened for STD and other infectious diseases. Secondly most of the mongers come to shark for GFE, BBBJ and CIM. It is quite possible the girls may get sick from BBBJ and CIM from mongers. Mongers should be very careful visiting brothels and use their common sense.
Angelika can be relied upon to give good service every time.I had been with Angelik. She is not so good like Latifah, that girl rocks your world if you know how to talk with her and pay her over 1 h you can do anything with that beauty. I m planning to come this week and have fun again. Can anybody tell me if Latifah is still there a blonde girl with a snake on the hand? I forgot to take her number.
Is there anyone that can tell me if the blonde girl Latifah is working there because if she's not I will ho visit another club, she is a blonde girl with a snake tattoo on the hand, tall, with perfect tits not so big bot to small with very nice ass and she is very kind and gentle wen you speak with her. Any idea if she is still in shark's?
Many girls, not only at Sharks, cough or catch flu, because they smoke too much so their lungs and throat are weak, and also naked all day, even in Winter. At GT, girls have to go outside for some rooms. Maybe because I usually choose the highest level ones, but never caught more than throat ache in FKK land, when visiting more than 100 days per year, more than 600 visits and 1000 rooms but most often always with same prettiest girls, for a real kisser and datying, I am. Girls have usually good hygiene and Romanians are usually higher level than German girls for this. But for full safety, better to stay at home with wife or girlfriend, to take care of her, then most women will ask for pleasure if their man is still attractive for desire.
Guys,
Let me tell you about the girl that is was, wen she CIM she bites a little the dick and the feeling that is in that moment. Unbelievable and anal was top! I hope Latifah is there this week to make my holidays better.
Nick The G
12-24-18, 15:10
Sharks is a reputable brothel in the world ... I am sure that girls must be periodically screened for STD and other infectious diseases.HappyShiva, that is a more general answer, so not related to you personally.
Sorry to tell, both aspects are nothing more than wishful thinking.
1.) Just because WE visit this brothel, it does not mean it is a reputable brothel.
2.) As long as the girls themselves don't go to see a doctor, nobody asks / forces them to do it any more in Germany. This has been reported and discussed over and over again in the fora, but every now and then a new (believing) disbeliever surfaces.
Even if they come from other countries, adult people, both women and men, are ultimately responsible for their lives and health, even in Germany!
A big brothel like Sharks is like a company. All processes have been optimized to get maximum money from female (especially) and male visitors. How many of us mongers are on the trip of making big money within shortest time disregarding to take care at all of our health?
And how many of us now project this attitude on the girls and blame them for doing the same things. The girls are not screened, they are screwed. By whom? By us. Why can we do it? Because we have the money they need. Otherwise the girls wouldn't do it! They don't dream of being screened, nor screwed. Their dream is to gain money as quick as possible to finance their own apartment or their education or their planned business.
Lately there were two consecutive days when it was relatively cold in the club and many girls told me that they became sick (flu) because of that. And over the years I have seen quite a couple of girls that worked even though they had herpes on their lips. They have extra costs for a lot of make-up to cover the obvious, and they are glad that they work in such a lowlight environment.
Anyone saw anything going on at the club? Work while being sick? Infections? Are you kidding? Work situation in brothels is like work situation in companies. The environment enhances self-exploitation and neglect of health aspects!
Nick. Nice to agree with you. Merry Christmas
1. Patricia is a great and honest provider. A very grown up woman who values giving good service. She tempts me to revisit Sharks.
2. I do not understand why do clients continue to think the girls are required to take tests for STDs.
As for the idea that we are avoiding discussion of STDs, I don't see much point in such discussions. If someone says they picked up an std, it will be impossible to know which girl, or probably even which club, was the source. The most practicable way to avoid getting an std is to practice sex in accordance with the July 2017 law, and to prevent further problems, to get tested at least four times a year. Everything else is just hot air.
For completeness, I volunteer the info that I picked up an infection (not at Sharks) diagnosed in November 2018. I do not know which club I got it from but have told as many of the girls I went with as possible. I am not sure this kind of info on the forum helps anyone, but I put it here as an example.
Nick. Nice to agree with you. Merry Christmas
1. Patricia is a great and honest provider. She tempts me to revisit Sharks.
2. I do not understand why do clients continue to think the girls are required to take tests for STDs.
As for the idea that we are avoiding discussion of STDs, I don't see much point in such discussions. If someone says they picked up an std, it will be impossible to know which girl, or probably even which club, was the source. The most practicable way to avoid getting an std is to practice sex in accordance with the July 2017 law, and to get tested at least four times a year. Everything else is just hot air.
For completeness, I volunteer the info that I picked up an infection (not at Sharks) diagnosed in November 2018. I do not know which club I got it from but have told as many of the girls I went with as possible. I am not sure this kind of info on the forum helps anyone, but I put it here as an example.If someone is paranoid about getting STD from FKK or similar establishments, he should practice the safest sex only. Don't visit brothels or WGs. Stick to one pre-tested exclusive partner, and if no such partner, stick to watching porn with self-help. Everything else is too risky for him. End of discussion.
ExpatLover
12-24-18, 18:13
If someone is paranoid about getting STD from FKK or similar establishments, he should practice the safest sex only. Don't visit brothels or WGs. Stick to one pre-tested exclusive partner, and if no such partner, stick to watching porn with self-help. Everything else is too risky for him. End of discussion.Why end of the discussion? We are spending a lot on entrance fees and to session the girls, the minimum that we can expect is to be safe or we can go to cheap countries fucking every type of girls.
At Kuni042.
Believe it or not. 80-85 percent are from Romania. And 2 greek girls? Forget that Kylie is from Greece. She's from North Korea.Oh, is Kylie not Greek? I believed her, but what do I know. Had a good time.
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I was there a few weeks ago, I have been to many other FKKs, mostly in Austria but also in Germany but, OMG, this place on a Saturday is heaven. I never saw so many 8's, 9's and maybe a few 10's in one place. Sure, you have to queue for a room, it's crowded and all but the quality is just fantastic. Too bad for the upselling, the good old 50 banknote gives you very little and I hate when they hurry you so I am stuck with having to pay at least 80 or more, but really, best money ever spent. In the end just did one shot as I am not so good on double shots but well worth the money. Forgot all about the lady's name, but she was really pretty. Will definitely go back, so much better than Oase in Stuttgart or the ones in Vienna.
Nick. Nice to agree with you. Merry Christmas
2. I do not understand why do clients continue to think the girls are required to take tests for STDs.
As for the idea that we are avoiding discussion of STDs, I don't see much point in such discussions. If someone says they picked up an std, it will be impossible to know which girl, or probably even which club, was the source. The most practicable way to avoid getting an std is to practice sex in accordance with the July 2017 law, and to prevent further problems, to get tested at least four times a year. Everything else is just hot air.
For completeness, I volunteer the info that I picked up an infection (not at Sharks) diagnosed in November 2018. I do not know which club I got it from but have told as many of the girls I went with as possible. I am not sure this kind of info on the forum helps anyone, but I put it here as an example.A couple of points: First, in Artemis the girls are most definitely required to have tests and indeed the club brings its own team in once per week to get the girls tested. If they fail they are given the required drugs (assuming its the usual STDs treatable by drugs) and are not allowed to work in the club for 7 days / nights. In fairness to one girl who refused to give my a BBBJ post July 2017 she said it was nothing to do with trying to get more money for her. She did not want to risk losing a week's income. Can't really argue with that. I appreciate this might be rare example of a club forcing testing. But it does happen. Girls who miss tests in Artemis are also not allowed to work until they take and pass one. That was the policy pre July 2017 but it remains so. I have a regular who I see out of the club who still works there and confirms for me that this is how it works.
Secondly. Massive respect to Optimist for his bravery and willingness to share this personal information. I've posted about STD risks in the past and been roundly attacked and told that some guys have had 5000 rooms and never caught a cold let alone an infection. It's almost like guys think STDs are banned from FKKs! It has always surprised me that it is not more common. A decent looking girl in one of these clubs can easily work for 10 hours in rooms giving maybe up to 20 BBBJs or more in a day (we all know some girls get guys off in 10 minutes, quick wash and on to the next! So the risk of picking something up for the girls must be quite high. But guys are unlikely to post "oh dear. Got an STD last week here". Do you know it must be from an FKK Optimist or could it have been from the RLD or elsewhere? Just wondered what percentage chance of it being in an FKK. I know it isn't really important. I'm just interested!
As for posts saying "don't go to FKKs if you don't want to catch anything" that's just crazy. I'm afraid the positives of visiting a venue with 100+ totally naked girls mainly under 30 is far too tempting to just play completely safe. Just unrealistic if you are a guy with blood in your veins who likes sex with pretty girls. But being careful is possible. I've only just stopped giving DATY unless I have been with a girl a few times. It's impossible to inspect a vagina for sores. And getting one of those vaginal condoms out is just a killer! As for receiving BBBJ. Sure its a much greater risk than CBJ but save for using Sagamis (hard to get) its so much better.
All of the above is why I won't go to Dietz. Not just because of the apparently poor facilities (which I wouldn't like either) but because AO is not for me. Far too risky to get something fairly serious from someone who is having unprotected sex with that many guys.
Well done again to Optimist. It shows it does happen and we should all be a little more cautious.
A couple of points: First, in Artemis the girls are most definitely required to have tests and indeed the club brings its own team in once per week to get the girls tested. If they fail they are given the required drugs (assuming its the usual STDs treatable by drugs) and are not allowed to work in the club for 7 days / nights. In fairness to one girl who refused to give my a BBBJ post July 2017 she said it was nothing to do with trying to get more money for her. She did not want to risk losing a week's income. Can't really argue with that. I appreciate this might be rare example of a club forcing testing. But it does happen. Girls who miss tests in Artemis are also not allowed to work until they take and pass one. That was the policy pre July 2017 but it remains so. I have a regular who I see out of the club who still works there and confirms for me that this is how it works.
Secondly. Massive respect to Optimist for his bravery and willingness to share this personal information. I've posted about STD risks in the past and been roundly attacked and told that some guys have had 5000 rooms and never caught a cold let alone an infection. It's almost like guys think STDs are banned from FKKs! It has always surprised me that it is not more common. A decent looking girl in one of these clubs can easily work for 10 hours in rooms giving maybe up to 20 BBBJs or more in a day (we all know some girls get guys off in 10 minutes, quick wash and on to the next! So the risk of picking something up for the girls must be quite high. But guys are unlikely to post "oh dear. Got an STD last week here". Do you know it must be from an FKK Optimist or could it have been from the RLD or elsewhere? Just wondered what percentage chance of it being in an FKK. I know it isn't really important. I'm just interested!
As for posts saying "don't go to FKKs if you don't want to catch anything" that's just crazy. I'm afraid the positives of visiting a venue with 100+ totally naked girls mainly under 30 is far too tempting to just play completely safe. Just unrealistic if you are a guy with blood in your veins who likes sex with pretty girls. But being careful is possible. I've only just stopped giving DATY unless I have been with a girl a few times. It's impossible to inspect a vagina for sores. And getting one of those vaginal condoms out is just a killer! As for receiving BBBJ. Sure its a much greater risk than CBJ but save for using Sagamis (hard to get) its so much better.
All of the above is why I won't go to Dietz. Not just because of the apparently poor facilities (which I wouldn't like either) but because AO is not for me. Far too risky to get something fairly serious from someone who is having unprotected sex with that many guys.
Well done again to Optimist. It shows it does happen and we should all be a little more cautious.Duh! You realize that BBBJ is also unprotected sex, right? Well, unless your real name is William Jefferson Blythe III Clinton, in which case BJ is not even sex LOL 😂.
We all know the L / you can sometimes be poor in early-mid January with ladies still on their extended holiday breaks.
I've never been in January but I have an opportunity to visit for just a day on 11th and I know one of my favourite ladies will definitely be working so I'm tempted.
However after meeting Mandy last month for the first time after many failed attempts I would love to see her again, she ticks all my boxes.
Does anyone have information as to whether Mandy is likely to be back at Sharks on the 11th? (She told me she usually works Tues, Wed, Fri & Sat).
I'm from the UK so to get a cheap flight I will have to book very soon.
If Mandy will definitely be at Sharks I will go, 100%, but if she is unlikely to be there I must decide whether to go and gamble on the L / you (although knowing one of my favourite ladies will be there) or waiting until later in the year to break my 2019 duck.
Sorry for the ramble.
Thanks.
HappyShiva
12-27-18, 01:59
I will be at sharks from January 24th until 27th. See you there all senior members and regulars. Nick G hope to see you there.
ExpatLover
12-27-18, 02:42
We all know the L / you can sometimes be poor in early-mid January with ladies still on their extended holiday breaks.
I've never been in January but I have an opportunity to visit for just a day on 11th and I know one of my favourite ladies will definitely be working so I'm tempted.
However after meeting Mandy last month for the first time after many failed attempts I would love to see her again, she ticks all my boxes.
Does anyone have information as to whether Mandy is likely to be back at Sharks on the 11th? (She told me she usually works Tues, Wed, Fri & Sat).
I'm from the UK so to get a cheap flight I will have to book very soon.
If Mandy will definitely be at Sharks I will go, 100%, but if she is unlikely to be there I must decide whether to go and gamble on the L / you (although knowing one of my favourite ladies will be there) or waiting until later in the year to break my 2019 duck.
Sorry for the ramble.
Thanks.Small advice never book flights such for 1 girl except you know her very well and have a fix appointment. If she will have some escort, or her days she will not be at Shark.
Duh! You realize that BBBJ is also unprotected sex, right? Well, unless your real name is William Jefferson Blythe III Clinton, in which case BJ is not even sex LOL 😂.For sure. But the risk factor on receipt of BJ unprotected is significantly less than unprotective penetrative sex. But I accept its still a risk, albeit lower.
I'm from the UK so to get a cheap flight I will have to book very soon…….If Mandy will definitely be at Sharks I will go, 100%, but if she is unlikely to be there I must decide whether to go and gamble on the L / youBook your flight at a bargain price and come to Sharks on 11 January. You never have a 100% probability even a girl might confirm the day before to come or expecting to see her because she usually was there on a certain day during the week. There are too many other nice options who will make your day anyway.
All For Bb
12-27-18, 19:33
Book your flight at a bargain price and come to Sharks on 11 January. You never have a 100% probability even a girl might confirm the day before to come or expecting to see her because she usually was there on a certain day during the week. There are too many other nice options who will make your day anyway.I met big tits Branda in August. Is she around these days? Any expert can tell if her tits are natural or fake? Touched like natural but you never know. Her other two measurements are also very good, slim but with huge tits.
I met big tits Branda in August. Is she around these days? Any expert can tell if her tits are natural or fake? Touched like natural but you never know. Her other two measurements are also very good, slim but with huge tits.Easy to know, even without going with her, Newton fall. Amazing naturals, but not pretty face for me.
For sure. But the risk factor on receipt of BJ unprotected is significantly less than unprotective penetrative sex. But I accept its still a risk, albeit lower.I guess this is where comes two different schools of thoughts. One is that if I like the girl, I would rather take the full plunge to enjoy the full natural GFE sex as it is supposed to be, like the way God intended to, and knowing that life is short and we all will definitely die sooner or later, from STDs or something else. Other school of thought is to do the half-ass thing, chosing the perceived lower risk option of BBBJ but not BBFS even knowing that the girl might have some STD from all the BBBJs she's doing and spreading all day all year long, like most mediocre risk averse people live to remain in the middle-class bracket for the whole life. Two different philosophies of (mongering) life: living full (maybe shorter) vs living half-ass (maybe longer). To each (monger) his own (way of enjoying the mongering life). 😊
I guess this is where comes two different schools of thoughts. One is that if I like the girl, I would rather take the full plunge to enjoy the full natural GFE sex as it is supposed to be, like the way God intended to, and knowing that life is short and we all will definitely die sooner or later, from STDs or something else. Other school of thought is to do the half-ass thing, chosing the perceived lower risk option of BBBJ but not BBFS even knowing that the girl might have some STD from all the BBBJs she's doing and spreading all day all year long, like most mediocre risk averse people live to remain in the middle-class bracket for the whole life. Two different philosophies of (mongering) life: living full (maybe shorter) vs living half-ass (maybe longer). To each (monger) his own (way of enjoying the mongering life).When you fuck AO a girl fucked AO by many other guys, this is as risky as if I made my free ride runs in flog or when snow is not solid enough yet, or as a avalanches hunter I play sometimes, in Tignes Guerlain Chicherit area, but resort slopes safety staff don t like this kind of game. No disease caught from FKK land, more than 30 free riding years, looking now only for most extreme spots, for adrenaline and passion, and spark in FKK land where one is just enough.
BigBuddy69
12-28-18, 12:37
I guess you never had something green, slimy and smelly dripping from your cock do you?
All of the above is why I won't go to Dietz. Not just because of the apparently poor facilities (which I wouldn't like either) but because AO is not for me. Far too risky to get something fairly serious from someone who is having unprotected sex with that many guys.
Well done again to Optimist. It shows it does happen and we should all be a little more cautious.I totally agree with everything you wrote in your post and well done to Optimist for disclosing (like me in a couple of occasions) to have caught an infection. As a matter of fact, I was in Sharks at the end of November and I also caught a bacterial infection, which sadly started to manifest itself on Christmas day! The infection has now been successfully treated with an injection of antibiotic and I probably also know which girl gave me this bacterial Christmas gift! This is the second time I've caught a bacterial infection at Sharks over the last year and, as much as I love this club, I will think twice about attending in the future.
I didn't know that Artemis was so strict in STD testing for the girls and I wish Sharks had a similar policy. In fact, one of my favourite girls once told me she wanted to move to Artemis because they had an internal doctor in the club.
In addition, for the record, many bacterial infection can be transmitted also via cross contact. Such as when the girl put the lube in her vagina and then touches your erected sword to put on a condom, that can be a way of transmitting a bacterial or viral infection.
I appreciate it's hard to play safe all the time, but get tested regularly if you visit the clubs often because many infections show no symptoms for a long time.
Rock.
Member #4636
12-28-18, 13:50
I totally agree with everything you wrote in your post and well done to Optimist for disclosing (like me in a couple of occasions) to have caught an infection. As a matter of fact, I was in Sharks at the end of November and I also caught a bacterial infection, which sadly started to manifest itself on Christmas day! The infection has now been successfully treated with an injection of antibiotic and I probably also know which girl gave me this bacterial Christmas gift! This is the second time I've caught a bacterial infection at Sharks over the last year and, as much as I love this club, I will think twice about attending in the future.
Rock.Thanks for sharing, this post will make me think not twice but 100 times before visiting Sharks again. How can this happen in maybe the most popular club?
Jimmy Boy 99
12-28-18, 14:57
I guess this is where comes two different schools of thoughts. One is that if I like the girl, I would rather take the full plunge to enjoy the full natural GFE sex as it is supposed to be, like the way God intended to, and knowing that life is short and we all will definitely die sooner or later, from STDs or something else. Other school of thought is to do the half-ass thing, chosing the perceived lower risk option of BBBJ but not BBFS even knowing that the girl might have some STD from all the BBBJs she's doing and spreading all day all year long, like most mediocre risk averse people live to remain in the middle-class bracket for the whole life. Two different philosophies of (mongering) life: living full (maybe shorter) vs living half-ass (maybe longer). To each (monger) his own (way of enjoying the mongering life). 😊Certainly an even-handed assessment of both schools of thought. :)
ExpatLover
12-28-18, 15:43
I guess this is where comes two different schools of thoughts. One is that if I like the girl, I would rather take the full plunge to enjoy the full natural GFE sex as it is supposed to be, like the way God intended to, and knowing that life is short and we all will definitely die sooner or later, from STDs or something else. Other school of thought is to do the half-ass thing, chosing the perceived lower risk option of BBBJ but not BBFS even knowing that the girl might have some STD from all the BBBJs she's doing and spreading all day all year long, like most mediocre risk averse people live to remain in the middle-class bracket for the whole life. Two different philosophies of (mongering) life: living full (maybe shorter) vs living half-ass (maybe longer). To each (monger) his own (way of enjoying the mongering life).Usually guys speaking like this are not sick when you are sick from STD you will for sure regret not to always choose the second option.
I guess this is where comes two different schools of thoughts. One is that if I like the girl, I would rather take the full plunge to enjoy the full natural GFE sex as it is supposed to be, like the way God intended to, and knowing that life is short and we all will definitely die sooner or later, from STDs or something else. Other school of thought is to do the half-ass thing, chosing the perceived lower risk option of BBBJ but not BBFS even knowing that the girl might have some STD from all the BBBJs she's doing and spreading all day all year long, like most mediocre risk averse people live to remain in the middle-class bracket for the whole life. Two different philosophies of (mongering) life: living full (maybe shorter) vs living half-ass (maybe longer). To each (monger) his own (way of enjoying the mongering life).The other aspect to consider, besides potentially shortening your own life, is the effect that your decision to participate in AO may have on others and the community. For instance, if you catch something serious (the most serious) are you going to stop the mongering life? Some part of you might say "yes I will stop", but once you're in that position with nothing to lose, then very unlikely that you will sacrifice and forego pleasure, out of integrity. And then if you're not stopping, you're then knowingly putting others, many of us, at risk (which in some countries is considered a crime, for a reason). The best way to avoid this dilemma is to minimize your chances of ending up in that situation.
If your goal is to maximize your potential for pleasure and happiness over the course of your life, than participating in certain risky behaviors is simply irrational. Some risky behaviors are worth it -- take financial risks to grow your wealth, because it's a financial risk (something you can re-earn), and the end result is a desirable one. Choosing to participate in a marginally more pleasurable act (AO)- that mild increase in pleasure does not seem like it's worth the risk to your health and your life. The risk is permanent (irreversible), the end result is undesirable, and the only thing you get is a mild increase in pleasure for a very short term activity. This is akin to taking hard life-threatening drugs like meth.
Your analogy about this middle class sounds inaccurate. If you take financial risks to try to ascend the social hierarchy, then if you succeed, you achieve success -- something admirable by all and objectively good. You are equating the pursuit of financial success and striving to achieve an objectively good thing, with catching harmful and potentially fatal STD's by an inability to make responsible choices. A more accurate analogy for participating in AO is someone who chooses to gamble their live savings in a casino or take heroin on a regular basis. This would be because they "want to live life to the fullest". With respect, this just sounds like an attempt to internally justify an inability to control a very low impulse and poor decision making.
ExpatLover
12-28-18, 18:20
Easy to know, even without going with her, Newton fall. Amazing naturals, but not pretty face for me.Sagging big tits, nice body well trained, not cute face, very pro in the room at least with me, she has 0 chance I will book her again.
Kosher Kowboy
12-28-18, 19:43
The other aspect to consider, besides potentially shortening your own life, is the effect that your decision to participate in AO may have on others and the community. For instance, if you catch something serious (the most serious) are you going to stop the mongering life? Some part of you might say "yes I will stop", but once you're in that position with nothing to lose, then very unlikely that you will sacrifice and forego pleasure, out of integrity. And then if you're not stopping, you're then knowingly putting others, many of us, at risk (which in some countries is considered a crime, for a reason). You have got to be shitting me! How do you know a guy who gets an STD will not stop? You are clearly assuming any guy who does AO will take the attitude ' fuck everyone else I will continue to AO since it is too late for me. ' What do you base that on? Do you know any guys who have done this or are you just making a statement of opinion with absolutely no facts or evidence to back such a selfish claim up? One well known member recently posted he got an STD and stopped, others simply stop. And you have some magic crystal ball that tells you guys are unlikely (' very unlikely' as you worded it as well) to stop if they contract an STD while it clears up . IMHO that is extremely judgmental of you although I do agree the guy who doesn't stop is putting others at risk. Yes, you are right if one doesn't not cool. I fully agree with you however you have made a very opinionated assumption on other guys and what they would do. The onus falls on the girl to stop as well and girls have STDs and continue to work in many cases (also wrong) so when you (or anyone else) goes to any club it is YOU taking on your own risk. YOU meaning anyone not you personally. The truth of the matter is AO is common, very popular, goes on much more than people think and if I were you I might reconsider your choice in a hobby as the majority of guys I know that do not go to the RTCs are barebacking some regular in a mainstream FKK. One can knock AO as dangerous but one shouldn't knock an activity based solely on their opinion of what someone else would do in fact what you post actually tells me personally more about what you might do if you were the unlucky one to contract an STD not others; usually we judge or predict others' behaviors based on our own. I personally would stop till clear. I hope you would do the same. That being said, why do you assume guys with an STD would continue to fuck? How did you arrive at such an assumption to cast upon others?
I just want to be clear, I am not arguing guys who AO can potentially put others at risk what I am not at all in agreement with is the casting of judgments on others when one has zero clue how another would behave. I appreciate your input but it is insulting in some ways but for discussion purposes, thank you for posting it. Your point is very valid, it is your assumption which is not.
Two different philosophies of (mongering) life: living full (maybe shorter) vs living half-ass (maybe longer). To each (monger) his own (way of enjoying the mongering life). 😊Reminds me of when I left Mainhatten waiting on Tram 11 smoking a cigarette talking to an Egyptian man. He told me an expression in Arabic that means ' live short and well not long and miserable' ; as he lit up a second smoke.
Everything good (including Big Mac's that I love) well mostly everything good can be bad for you. Not always. But much truth to the two schools of philosophies. To each their own.
In addition, for the record, many bacterial infection can be transmitted also via cross contact. Such as when the girl put the lube in her vagina and then touches your erected sword to put on a condom, that can be a way of transmitting a bacterial or viral infection.
Very true, my doctor who knows of my adventures tells me UTIs are often forgot about as a risk of this game. Cross contact is very easy to transmit.
I think all would agree BBBJ is less risky than AO but not risk free but I am not reading too much about DATY as a risk, infections in the mouth can occur very easily so guys who fuck with condoms only but get BBBJ are not only taking on some degree of risk but add in DATY to the mix the risk increases. Vaginal fluids in to a guy's mouth are not filtered for bacteria and viruses. Girl gets fingered or somehow gets a cut in her pussy and the next guy sticks his tongue up her kunt all the way in could prove to be risky. Or not. Just never know.
The above thoughts are not casting judgments on others behaviors just pointing things out, at the end of the day we all decide the risk level we want (as do the girls) but no matter how you slice the pie all of us are taking on a risk in this game. Several girls in the states have told me over the years and no way girls in Germany do not practice this either (in fact I know of one who does in one club and she is not the only one) shoves a tampon or The Today sponge up her pussy when on the rag (and bleeding.) I know one guy at one of these clubs who once told me when he pulled his dick out it was red, I told him this girl is known to work with a tampon in during her period. Just another ' trick' in their book.
And just to add to others sentiments, if you are that scared of STDs take up coin or stamp collecting but in the event you need to get in your car and merge on to a highway to go to the store make sure to double check your rear and side view mirrors, car accidents are quite common especially with merges at high speeds; often with deadly or life threatening injuries not treatable with pills or a shot. Just saying.
We may see on the ISG here (Sharks thread) over the last few months a few reports of guys getting infections but it also happens to be one of the most populated and busiest clubs and one needs to simply look at the post counts for the Sharks and oase threads for that matter. When the American boards were open (some still) the majority of reviews are always Sharks and Oase. That being said of course the number of ' admissions' would be higher at this club than at a tiny club but if anyone thinks as a percentage of all the girls working at clubs that Sharks is STD infested while a smaller club such as Mainhatten or Living Room (I am told it is small) are STD free think again.
Glad this thread comes up again (despite being slightly off-topic).
There is a lot of wisdom in what you write. I totally refrain from BBBJ. My theory is, that the girl cannot do a covered BJ well. She won't be able to do a BBBJ well either. But a well done CBJ can indeed only be marginally improved with a BBBJ (imo! But you pay often much more money, and run into those risks.
Just my question: if the lady is already having an STD and the BBBJ is risky, how risky would be DFK too?
The other aspect to consider, besides potentially shortening your own life, is the effect that your decision to participate in AO may have on others and the community. For instance, if you catch something serious (the most serious) are you going to stop the mongering life? Some part of you might say "yes I will stop", but once you're in that position with nothing to lose, then very unlikely that you will sacrifice and forego pleasure, out of integrity. And then if you're not stopping, you're then knowingly putting others, many of us, at risk (which in some countries is considered a crime, for a reason). The best way to avoid this dilemma is to minimize your chances of ending up in that situation.
If your goal is to maximize your potential for pleasure and happiness over the course of your life, than participating in certain risky behaviors is simply irrational. Some risky behaviors are worth it -- take financial risks to grow your wealth, because it's a financial risk (something you can re-earn), and the end result is a desirable one. Choosing to participate in a marginally more pleasurable act (AO)- that mild increase in pleasure does not seem like it's worth the risk to your health and your life. The risk is permanent (irreversible), the end result is undesirable, and the only thing you get is a mild increase in pleasure for a very short term activity. This is akin to taking hard life-threatening drugs like meth.
Your analogy about this middle class sounds inaccurate. If you take financial risks to try to ascend the social hierarchy, then if you succeed, you achieve success -- something admirable by all and objectively good. You are equating the pursuit of financial success and striving to achieve an objectively good thing, with catching harmful and potentially fatal STD's by an inability to make responsible choices. A more accurate analogy for participating in AO is someone who chooses to gamble their live savings in a casino or take heroin on a regular basis. This would be because they "want to live life to the fullest". With respect, this just sounds like an attempt to internally justify an inability to control a very low impulse and poor decision making.
Interesting!
Two things:
A) she should first put the condom on your willi.
B) she should 100% have washed her hands (we can assume that 90% of the girls will do that- right? Right?
..... many bacterial infection can be transmitted also via cross contact. Such as when the girl put the lube in her vagina and then touches your erected sword to put on a condom
Rock.
Yes, I believe that she is asian. "North Korea" sounds so unlikely a lie, so it must be true. Ultimately, I do not care, as others said. You can get awesome service from anyone.
Kylie is a very rare asian with her rack though.
At Kuni042.
Believe it or not. 80-85 percent are from Romania. And 2 greek girls? Forget that Kylie is from Greece. She's from North Korea.
120 girls? I totally doubt it. They only have max 40 "rooms", 23 rooms upstairs, 4 rooms downstairs, 12 "tents" inside.
That would mean you should see 80 girls outside, which is simply not true. Do your own count again too, Nick!
Last Wednesday, there were more than 120 girls. The last weekend, Friday to Sunday, was Christmas party weekend and the last big chance to harvest money for many of the girls. Reliable sources on a german forum report that on Saturday there were approx. 150 girls there. And true, more german girls as usual were there for the party only. I don't assume that on Friday there were significantly less girls at Sharks altogether.
So it might be the time to calculate again! Do it again, Kuni042!
Very true, my doctor who knows of my adventures tells me UTIs are often forgot about as a risk of this game. Cross contact is very easy to transmit.
I think all would agree BBBJ is less risky than AO but not risk free but I am not reading too much about DATY as a risk, infections in the mouth can occur very easily so guys who fuck with condoms only but get BBBJ are not only taking on some degree of risk but add in DATY to the mix the risk increases. Vaginal fluids in to a guy's mouth are not filtered for bacteria and viruses. Girl gets fingered or somehow gets a cut in her pussy and the next guy sticks his tongue up her kunt all the way in could prove to be risky. Or not. Just never know..Dear KK,
First at all I want you to know I really enjoy reading your reports, which are always very entertaining and well written. So thank you for that, you are a great writer!!
1) In response to your doubts about the risks with DATY, yes, you can catch an STD in your throat just like gay men get them in their anus. According to the nurse that treated me, the worst situation is when you catch them in your eye, through cross contact, as it can have a long lasting damage and it is more difficult to treat.
2) No, I'm not that scared about STDs if you can treat them easily, but I am scared of other viral infections that you can't treat. That's why I never do AO. However, I wish that Sharks management would adopt a policy to monitor STDs in girls like Artemis' does. This would not eliminate the risk altogether, but it would reduce the chances of catching something. STDs monitoring like in Artemis would actually protect the health of girls more than the costumers', but it is better than not having anything in place.
3) Yes, I accept your point that the size of the club matters (just like size matters in other aspects of life! But that should be one more reason to implement some kind of STDs monitoring.
Cheers.
Andrea.
Interesting!
Two things:
A) she should first put the condom on your willi.
B) she should 100% have washed her hands (we can assume that 90% of the girls will do that- right? Right?A) Ideally yes, but not before she washed her hands thoroughly or with an antibacterial gel.
B) You should not assume that. One of the girls, I went with during my visit at the end of November, started touching her pussy as soon as she jumped on the bed. Although a very sexy thing to see, it wasn't hygienic at all.
Reminds me of when I left Mainhatten waiting on Tram 11 smoking a cigarette talking to an Egyptian man. He told me an expression in Arabic that means ' live short and well not long and miserable' ; as he lit up a second smoke.
Everything good (including Big Mac's that I love) well mostly everything good can be bad for you. Not always. But much truth to the two schools of philosophies. To each their own.
Very true, my doctor who knows of my adventures tells me UTIs are often forgot about as a risk of this game. Cross contact is very easy to transmit.
I think all would agree BBBJ is less risky than AO but not risk free but I am not reading too much about DATY as a risk, infections in the mouth can occur very easily so guys who fuck with condoms only but get BBBJ are not only taking on some degree of risk but add in DATY to the mix the risk increases. Vaginal fluids in to a guy's mouth are not filtered for bacteria and viruses. Girl gets fingered or somehow gets a cut in her pussy and the next guy sticks his tongue up her kunt all the way in could prove to be risky. Or not. Just never know.
The above thoughts are not casting judgments on others behaviors just pointing things out, at the end of the day we all decide the risk level we want (as do the girls) but no matter how you slice the pie all of us are taking on a risk in this game. Several girls in the states have told me over the years and no way girls in Germany do not practice this either (in fact I know of one who does in one club and she is not the only one) shoves a tampon or The Today sponge up her pussy when on the rag (and bleeding.) I know one guy at one of these clubs who once told me when he pulled his dick out it was red, I told him this girl is known to work with a tampon in during her period. Just another ' trick' in their book.
And just to add to others sentiments, if you are that scared of STDs take up coin or stamp collecting but in the event you need to get in your car and merge on to a highway to go to the store make sure to double check your rear and side view mirrors, car accidents are quite common especially with merges at high speeds; often with deadly or life threatening injuries not treatable with pills or a shot. Just saying.
That's an excellent way to put it KK - "live short and well, not long and miserable".
Most FKK girls work thru their periods if they really need the money in that week, obviously using those sponges or tampons. Sharks front desk even sells those sponges to the girls in need. Few girls get more horny during periods, and work through that week even if they do not need the money. It's gross to me, but apparently there are customers who also like when the girls are in period. Again, to each his own.
Anything we (both girls and the guys) do in any of these FKKs or such establishments are riskier than any safe-sex options (one regularly tested partner or self-help as I mentioned earlier). For example, when we lick an FKK girl's nipples, how sure are we that she washed them well with disinfecting soap etc after the last session when that customer (maybe just came from an Ebola infested country, who knows) devoured those beautiful boobs for 20 minutes?
Live long and well.
I hope to live long enough to see the end of the never ending discussions on risk in having paid sex lol
Everybody has to make up their own minds. Just for fun I would argue that most clients indulging in AO are more likely to die from obesity related illnesses than from an std :D. Everybody worried about catching an std should lose weight if they want to improve their life survival chances :D (only kidding, but just wanted to show how different perspectives can frame the issue differently)
Live long and well.
I hope to live long enough to see the end of the never ending discussions on risk in having paid sex lol
Everybody has to make up their own minds. Just for fun I would argue that most clients indulging in AO are more likely to die from obesity related illnesses than from an std :D. Everybody worried about catching an std should lose weight if they want to improve their life survival chances :D (only kidding, but just wanted to show how different perspectives can frame the issue differently)You are so on point with your argument Optimist! We have a choice of dying out of obesity related illnesses or opening a McDonald to spread such illnesses, but we don't have the choice of taking the risk of enjoying AO sex which is statistically much less risky than bad food or road accidents. Such a balanced free world 😣.
ExpatLover
12-29-18, 03:42
Live long and well.
I hope to live long enough to see the end of the never ending discussions on risk in having paid sex lol
Everybody has to make up their own minds. Just for fun I would argue that most clients indulging in AO are more likely to die from obesity related illnesses than from an std :D. Everybody worried about catching an std should lose weight if they want to improve their life survival chances :D (only kidding, but just wanted to show how different perspectives can frame the issue differently)I don't understand the link between STD and obesity and life expectation but why not, what about healthy people doing AO and no doing AO, for me the risk to catch a STD in a FKK is probably very high compare to escort, tinder, . Just because the girls have so many guys without knowing anything about their health status. When I am setting outside in summer it is very easy to see the girls from FKK and very few are looking healthy, nice skin, fresh. Even some stars are ugly for me and I will not session them even they will pay me.
Member #4636
12-29-18, 07:19
However, I wish that Sharks management would adopt a policy to monitor STDs in girls like Artemis' does. This would not eliminate the risk altogether, but it would reduce the chances of catching something. STDs monitoring like in Artemis would actually protect the health of girls more than the costumers', but it is better than not having anything in place.I don't like Artemis much but after reading this I have to take hats off to the management of the club. Who would not prefer to go to a cub where the chances of catching STDs are much less?
Horny Harry
12-29-18, 18:17
Yes, I believe that she is asian. "North Korea" sounds so unlikely a lie, so it must be true. Ultimately, I do not care, as others said. You can get awesome service from anyone.
Kylie is a very rare asian with her rack though.I've frequently travelled to Kazachstan for business and IMO she definitely looks very Central Asian. I've seen loads of girls who look like Kylie (previously called herself "Electra") in Almaty and Astana; a very curious and exotic mix of Asians (Kazach, Korean, Chinese, Mongolian) and Europeans-Russians.
Kylie's eyes are very Central Asian, not quite Asian and not quite European-Caucasian either, and her tits of course are fantastic.
Can we please move the STD debate away from Sharks and stick to the line-up? STD's can happen everywhere.
I don't like Artemis much but after reading this I have to take hats off to the management of the club. Who would not prefer to go to a cub where the chances of catching STDs are much less?IMHO, the new law effective from 2017 should have been much more effective if it enforced all girls must be tested at some reasonable frequency (monthly, 15 days etc?) and carry such report card with them for police to do occasional checking, as opposed to what they have now (BBBJ and BBFS ban) which is ridiculous, unenforceable and doesn't really protect anyone. Then the FKK clubs also can be required to have a doctor in retainer to enforce such law, which benefits both girls and customers. Austria got this partly right by not having any BBBJ or BBFS ban but requiring all WGs to be tested regularly and carry the report as part of their WG license card. Unfortunately, Germany implemented something that doesn't do good to anyone except for generating more tax euros. Usually Germany gets things done right eventually, so I still hope that some politicians will eventually fix it.
Kosher Kowboy
12-29-18, 19:23
IMHO, the new law effective from 2017 should have been much more effective if it enforced all girls must be tested at some reasonable frequency (monthly, 15 days etc?) and carry such report card with them for police to do occasional checking, as opposed to what they have now (BBBJ and BBFS ban) which is ridiculous, unenforceable and doesn't really protect anyone. Then the FKK clubs also can be required to have a doctor in retainer to enforce such law, which benefits both girls and customers. Austria got this partly right by not having any BBBJ or BBFS ban but requiring all WGs to be tested regularly and carry the report as part of their WG license card. Unfortunately, Germany implemented something that doesn't do good to anyone except for generating more tax euros. Usually Germany gets things done right eventually, so I still hope that some politicians will eventually fix it.Would be nice, the current law is a waste except 'maybe' provisions unrelated to BBBJ / AO; at least the Gypsies and RLD girls go to the doctor although between visits several hundred johns load them up. Two day care Gypsies however told me in the NRW testing is not frequent some do not do it however my gut tells me this is possibly not true as I think they tell me not to go up there as they selfishly want the money I spend however often I go in their pockets not the Gypsies of the North. I know Mainhatten girls are not required to be tested, three have confirmed this but say ' every time they go home they get tested'.
In Mexico the girls had an onsite medical facility in the border compounds and they had to go I think weekly and carry a health card. If no health card the club and the girl faced fines / banishment. I believe the brothels of Guadalajara also require medical cards. I also was told (so third hand) that the girls working for the MX City agencies (the upper end ones) are required to be tested either by the agency or the state. Either way, BBBJ is a battle down there too but $5-$10 upsell is nothing.
If the Mexicans can do it why can't the Germans? I am sure you are right as more Euros come in but if they did require testing too simply slap a ' medical tax' on the girls or increase the total tax they pay now by a portion to cover the costs of the tests. Only problem with requiring testing means someone has to pay for it either the clubs (unlikely) the girls (likely) which means IMHO the girls will attempt to pass the costs on to us and turn a profit on it. Look at how much they make off ' the bullshit laws'; in many cases +50 e on blowjobs, plenty to cover their increased costs under the new laws and for some a profit.
But I could be wrong.
BarryManila
12-29-18, 21:01
120 girls? I totally doubt it. They only have max 40 "rooms", 23 rooms upstairs, 4 rooms downstairs, 12 "tents" inside.
Do your own count again too, Nick!Why the hell there are always these waiting times for the rooms in the evening. What do you think?
I know this is off topic. Gino, you are right. FKKs used to require girls to be tested, but once the Police started raiding clubs, the clubs started to worry that requiring girls to get tested would mean that the authorities would prosecute them as the girls would no longer be "self-employed". The raid about three years ago intended to close Artemis was partly on the grounds that the girls were not self employed. Of course, the authorities ended up with egg on their face. So maybe now Artemis has enough confidence that it can require testing, if Rocky is correct
There is no reason why other clubs could not do so. But they don't really care, with a few exceptions as KK points out. BTW I have anecdotal evidence that the testing regime at the KK type clubs in NRW is extremely lax to say the least: one girl worked there for at least a couple of months with an infection, and was never required go be tested while working
Cost of testing is minimal compared to girls' earnings: half an hour session covers it. No reason why the old system from World where the doctor came to the club once a month shouldn't work. But the clubs can make their money without acting responsibly.
So in the end it is up to us to test ourselves (and not with instant tests which for example don't show up syphilis for the first three months).
The German authorities have made a mess of this. The clubs started off being responsible but the authorities discouraged this. And the new law has (on anecdotal and observational evidence) increased the demand for, and availability of, underground AO (and I suspect pimping/control of girls who are moved every few days) but done nothing to minimise the consequences. Like Prohibition in the US, more profit for the shady characters
I know this is off topic. Gino, you are right. FKKs used to require girls to be tested, but once the Police started raiding clubs, the clubs started to worry that requiring girls to get tested would mean that the authorities would prosecute them as the girls would no longer be "self-employed". The raid about three years ago intended to close Artemis was partly on the grounds that the girls were not self employed. Of course, the authorities ended up with egg on their face. So maybe now Artemis has enough confidence that it can require testing, if Rocky is correctI wonder where the police got that info from. Girls at Artemis have sometimes said that they work at a club as opposed to working on the street. If that was their lead, and it got lost in police translation, it has to be the biggest joke in German police prostitute history.
The German authorities have made a mess of this. The clubs started off being responsible but the authorities discouraged this. And the new law has (on anecdotal and observational evidence) increased the demand for, and availability of, underground AO (and I suspect pimping/control of girls who are moved every few days) but done nothing to minimise the consequences. Like Prohibition in the US, more profit for the shady charactersWell, the red light areas had rather poor hygiene I suppose. So there was something to regulating it a bit different. But they probably missed the mark on more things than it helped.
Horny Harry
12-29-18, 22:12
The German authorities have made a mess of this. The clubs started off being responsible but the authorities discouraged this. And the new law has (on anecdotal and observational evidence) increased the demand for, and availability of, underground AO (and I suspect pimping/control of girls who are moved every few days) but done nothing to minimise the consequences. Like Prohibition in the US, more profit for the shady charactersThis is a typical "damned if you do, damned if you don't" scenario. Unfortunately this fits in well with what I've been warning for for quite some time. The "meta-frame" is that the German government wants to severely restrict prostitution (look at Sweden as guidance country) and is using every opportunity to throw the book at FKK establishments.
Just because the authorities have backed off for the time being about STD testing (quite ridiculous since they supposedly "care so much about those 'poor' women' but that doesn't mean that they have changed their minds and that things are back to the good old days again. Governments and 'authorities' are very good in inefficiency, letting things get out of hand, fucking things up, and creating clusterfucks. These things they can subsequently use-abuse in order to push through their meta-frame and the government, the authorities and the feminazi's are just leaning back, watching the infections fester and collecting more ammo.
Watch the government and their vassals in the mainstream media in a few months spin an STD story into another tearjerker attack on FKK clubs and prostitution! That they (read: the government) themselves are the root cause, they will of course not mention!
Also see; "thin end of the wedge," "means to an end" and "never let a crisis go to waste."
At least Mr. Ho has the decency to shave his "anal" at home well before he arrives at the club. You see? He's not such a bad guy after all! LOLOLOL! Funniest thing I saw years ago was at Palace when I was new to the FKK scene.
I saw this guy in the shower bent over like he was in a rugby scrum washing his hairy arsehole out hahaha! Was too funny! WTH is wrong with some people doing such goofy-looking things in public?Well it is either I shave my ass hairs or not get my ass licked in FKK, so I got no choice, this act increase the probability of getting rimjob LOL. It is good thin hotel rooms has various mirrors, they must have thought a need like mine when they design the hotel room LOL!
I really wonder why all doctors advice to use condom when you don't really know your partner for sex, but maybe they bullshit like all over FKK land. I also wonder why smart, pretty girls work and make business with condom, when most often ugly girls work AO sex, taking risks for their health.
ExpatLover
12-30-18, 02:17
With the new law the offer is decreasing not only in quantity but also in quality, less and less new and fresh girls around a lot of veteran mostly in the clubs, this was the real target of the new law.
The boss of paradise was condemned the 21 of December for trafficking humans, prostitution, in fact most of the clubs are owned by rocker bands and the girls are not so free that it should be which is a dream, very few girls are really ready to get fucked 2000 times at least per year freely.
I've frequently travelled to Kazachstan for business and IMO she definitely looks very Central Asian. I've seen loads of girls who look like Kylie (previously called herself "Electra") in Almaty and Astana; a very curious and exotic mix of Asians (Kazach, Korean, Chinese, Mongolian) and Europeans-Russians.
Kylie's eyes are very Central Asian, not quite Asian and not quite European-Caucasian either, and her tits of course are fantastic.
Can we please move the STD debate away from Sharks and stick to the line-up? STD's can happen everywhere.I met few Romanian girls with a bit Asian eyes, I remember blond Misha, Megan friend, at Globe. What a natural blond beauty with a bit Asian eyes. After my room with Megan, waited Megan was then busy, but couldn't resist to taste Misha. She really didn't need now silicon.
When I was a weekly regular at Sharks, as we did chat on this Friday with Megan, I did taste her so many times everywhere, perfect hygiene, nothing bad caught at Sharks for so many visits since discovery on February 2014, starting with Roxana before silicon, then Dina, Bulgarian Andrea, Cosmina brunette at this time. Maximum 50 girls at this time, but Golden Years for beauties.
120 girls? I totally doubt it. They only have max 40 "rooms", 23 rooms upstairs, 4 rooms downstairs, 12 "tents" inside.
That would mean you should see 80 girls outside, which is simply not true. Do your own count again too, Nick!Sharks desk always told more numerous girls, but they are not able to tell You if a girl is working. If you call GT or LR or Samya, they are able to answer you if a girl is working or not. Some Sharks girls tell about 200 girls and poor business.
On my last visit on Friday 30 November evening, there were enough girls for me, but despite not kissing Tia who was the prettiest, Leoni who proposed me kissing for 1 h for 100 but pretty sure she was not into Globe level kissing, lovely real woman Debi. Ro, so lovely Cleo ex Stefi Globe, my first Globe girl when she was blond and all natural, but I couldn't find any wow girl, I found as soon I arrived at Palace for a great, even expensive, night.
Sharks seem to be quantity now, but not on same level than on 2014/2015 when about only 50 girls. But had a great ex Sharks discovery, met in NRW, so woman in bed. Bad luck I never found her at Sharks when she said she knows me from Sharks, I would have run for her, but maybe more sophisticated look now, so lovely and real fire in bed. Also some ex Sharks girls now working at Globe, but not same Megan, much more sexual now. Most often, girls are on club and clients level, but they can change when they move.
I really wonder why all doctors advice to use condom when you don't really know your partner for sex, but maybe they bullshit like all over FKK land. I also wonder why smart, pretty girls work and make business with condom, when most often ugly girls work AO sex, taking risks for their health.They get paid by condom companies to say so.
Nick The G
12-30-18, 11:56
Women who offer paysex services and men who use this service are both responsible for their health. Brothels are not clinics!
Within the paysex frame, the main problem for both sexes is greed and often addiction too. And the obsession by the idea that one can do / get almost anything for money.
As long as many of us live with the belief: "it is the other person that needs to change habits, so to make me feel better and to allow me to live the life the way I want" , nothing will change significantly. Most adult people forget, that they themselves are the responsible center of their world, not the others.
Nick The G
12-30-18, 12:08
The "meta-frame" is that the German government wants to severely restrict prostitution (look at Sweden as guidance country) and is using every opportunity to throw the book at FKK establishments.For now, I feel the significant frame is the taxes. The German government felt it really deserved a greater share of the money flow through the lanes and halls of paysex. Why should so much money, mostly untaxed, go to working girls and pimps only?
ExpatLover
12-30-18, 12:58
For now, I feel the significant frame is the taxes. The German government felt it really deserved a greater share of the money flow through the lanes and halls of paysex. Why should so much money, mostly untaxed, go to working girls and pimps only?Probably in 10 years we will all speak about the beautiful years 2000 in FKK Germany, since 2017 less and less new girls are entering the P6 scene in Germany, always the same veteran prostitutes switching from 1 club to another but definitively a no go for me, I am not paying to session a girl who got fucked 20000+, professional P6 in Germany seems to be under pressure for high demanding guys like me, but fortunately the amateur offer was never so wide and good. At least you can meet real girls, with emotions, reactions, some nice pussy taste and not those over washed and fucked prostitutes in the clubs.
While talking recently to a lady I regularly see at Sharks about different men's sexual appetites she told me that some men like to pay double to the girl while another chap & her enjoy themselves as he watches / masterbates.
I argued she was totally making it up or it may have been a "one off" but she got a bit uptight with me and was adamant this occurred more than I thought.
In fact she said she would try to find a "watcher" for us just to prove she was correct. I still don't believe it!
Has anyone heard of this practice, it sounds utterly bizarre to me, one man having free fun while another pays for both, even accounting for the strange "goings on" at Clubs?
On another more common point for some reason unknown to me although I like being rimmed I've never asked for it despite numerous visits to Sharks and other Clubs.
I presume like most things some girls do & some don't but is this generally considered an "extra" like CIM & Anal or can it be negotiated in the normal fee?
I will be at Sharks next week just for a day for my first visit of the year so it could prove enlightening!
Sharks desk always told more numerous girls, but they are not able to tell You if a girl is working. If you call GT or LR or Samya, they are able to answer you if a girl is working or not. Some Sharks girls tell about 200 girls and poor business.
On my last visit on Friday 30 November evening, there were enough girls for me, but despite not kissing Tia who was the prettiest, Leoni who proposed me kissing for 1 h for 100 but pretty sure she was not into Globe level kissing, lovely real woman Debi. Ro, so lovely Cleo ex Stefi Globe, my first Globe girl when she was blond and all natural, but I couldn't find any wow girl, I found as soon I arrived at Palace for a great, even expensive, night.
Sharks seem to be quantity now, but not on same level than on 2014/2015 when about only 50 girls. But had a great ex Sharks discovery, met in NRW, so woman in bed. Bad luck I never found her at Sharks when she said she knows me from Sharks, I would have run for her, but maybe more sophisticated look now, so lovely and real fire in bed. Also some ex Sharks girls now working at Globe, but not same Megan, much more sexual now. Most often, girls are on club and clients level, but they can change when they move.I got similar GFE from Megan and Leoni. Megan used to look at me from the distance and when I would look at her she would look away. She used to do the same thing even when we were pretty close to each other; she was so coy, I could not resist her. Leoni has a different approach, she looks at me directly with her piercing eyes with an intense semi smiling expression. I also find that irresistible. She also finds me appealing ever since I gave her a massage after our session in July and she told me I have magical hands.
They get paid by condom companies to say so.Correct. The doctors who don't take money or "gifts" from condom companies, advice abstinence with your partner until you both get tested.
Kosher Kowboy
12-30-18, 17:19
The doctors who don't take money or "gifts" from condom companies, advice abstinence with your partner until you both get tested.And leave the office and bareback many Texas hookers. Several have doctors, dentists and other medical professionals fucking them. Politicians too (who also smoke plenty 420 and see hookers). When the legislature is in session here in Austin prices go up and demand sky high.
In other words the ones who preach about safe sex and make our laws are the very ones behaving the opposite (well many of them).
I can only imagine these same doctors in Germany and around the world are in the P6 world.
One regular I see has on her client list her Ob-Gyn.
America at it's best!
I really wonder why all doctors advice to use condom when you don't really know your partner for sex, but maybe they bullshit like all over FKK land. I also wonder why smart, pretty girls work and make business with condom, when most often ugly girls work AO sex, taking risks for their health.Siri, with all due respect, unfortunately you probably will stop going to FKKs if I tell you which of your "dream woman" type girls themselves started AO with me (and at least few other guys I'm pretty sure) over the years, saying "you are special, I love you, I want to enjoy real sex, but you're the only one I have ever done this, please don't tell anyone". Most cases I said "yeah right!" (in my head) LOL. But then again maybe that's just bullshit like all over FKK land.
BigBuddy69
12-30-18, 17:31
They get paid by condom companies to say so.You're right, that's a global conspiracy from Durex and Manix. Could you prove them wrong and go fuck some street hookers bareback in 'Sierra Leone?
ExpatLover
12-30-18, 17:44
Siri, with all due respect, unfortunately you probably will stop going to FKKs if I tell you which of your "dream woman" type girls themselves started AO with me (and at least few other guys I'm pretty sure) over the years, saying "you are special, I love you, I want to enjoy real sex, but you're the only one I have ever done this, please don't tell anyone". Most cases I said "yeah right!" (in my head) LOL. But then again maybe that's just bullshit like all over FKK land.You now that the girl is doing AO with others and you still do it with her, some girls proposed AO to me I always refuse, my heath is more important for me than 30 seconds of pleasure quickly forget.
I got similar GFE from Megan and Leoni. Megan used to look at me from the distance and when I would look at her she would look away. She used to do the same thing even when we were pretty close to each other; she was so coy, I could not resist her. Leoni has a different approach, she looks at me directly with her piercing eyes with an intense semi smiling expression. I also find that irresistible. She also finds me appealing ever since I gave her a massage after our session in July and she told me I have magical hands.I'm not sure Leoni would kiss like Megan, and I think she really improved for sex, for money at Globe.
KingOfBongo
12-30-18, 18:14
... I also wonder why smart, pretty girls work and make business with condom, when most often ugly girls work AO sex, taking risks for their health....How could you know (smart) pretty girls always use condom? I did a lot of CIM without condom. It used to be my fantasy.
At least 2 of your previous Eve do it.
What's more they might have boyfriend.
They get paid by condom companies to say so.I wish most of WGs are more clever, for their health. When we are dead or really badly sick from HIV, we don t need anymore money, when they work to make money for their future, when not for pimp.
How could you know (smart) pretty girls always use condom? I did a lot of CIM without condom. It used to be my fantasy.
At least 2 of your previous Eve do it.
What's more they might have boyfriend.I wish for You didn't pay for CIM in condom, but CIM is about same risk than when I DATY my woman types. I wish You were able to understand my meaning was about fucking without condom, but if fucking without condom a girl who is fucked without condom by everybody is not risky, then I don t have anymore to have lights turned on at night when driving on autobahns.
Of course, I didn't mean about private life, as far I know my girlfriends didn't fuck with everybody.
Correct. The doctors who don't take money or "gifts" from condom companies, advice abstinence with your partner until you both get tested.Well it is about time till new alternative to condom should be invented. Pill is good, but not convenient, so I hope some kind of gel or something is more nicer and real feel of bareback as it is bareback. Let us hope for such a new biotechnology then we all can be more happy mongers LOL!
ExpatLover
12-31-18, 03:01
How could you know (smart) pretty girls always use condom? I did a lot of CIM without condom. It used to be my fantasy.
At least 2 of your previous Eve do it.
What's more they might have boyfriend.The risk is low with CIM compare to anal or pussy sex without condom, most of the girls will provide CIM.
I wish most of WGs are more clever, for their health. When we are dead or really badly sick from HIV, we don t need anymore money, when they work to make money for their future, when not for pimp.Not that I welcome the idea of having HIV, but these days its more of a hassle than anything approaching life threatening.
Not that I welcome the idea of having HIV, but these days its more of a hassle than anything approaching life threatening.I prefer to die in avalanche or crevace or falling in rocks, than having to take 20 pills per day which will kill my organs and my body. I don't think we live with HIV, but only survive. Better to ask people who get, to really know.
Also AO clubs are illegal about the new law, but still opened, just because they put information to fuck with condom.
Polyamorist
12-31-18, 17:29
Siri, with all due respect, unfortunately you probably will stop going to FKKs if I tell you which of your "dream woman" type girls themselves started AO with me (and at least few other guys I'm pretty sure) over the years, saying "you are special, I love you, I want to enjoy real sex, but you're the only one I have ever done this, please don't tell anyone". Akeed, habibi Gino. I dread telling the respected Monsirioja which paragons of good breeding have had my cum dripping from their elegant lips as I know with that image in mind he would never kiss them again.
Akeed, habibi Gino. I dread telling the respected Monsirioja which paragons of good breeding have had my cum dripping from their elegant lips as I know with that image in mind he would never kiss them again.I think I know, when I'm only a very small money client, why I don't experience princess attitude, even with Globe busy superstars, who come to me when they see me. Most often, same in Germany with girls who know me. Girls don t try to sell me extra.
Very interesting when Megan asked me to have a conversation on this Friday, when our last room was on beginning of July 2017, I think on her second or third Globe tour. Really nice behavior from her. I think a bit difficult for her to see me going with other girls, when only looking at her now. She didn't came for business because at 2. 30 am, so too late for a room, on her last day before returning home. Also busy Katalina Globe telling me on August: You have a new favorite now? Even busy superstar, but looking at what I do and with who I go.
girls themselves started AO with me (and at least few other guys I'm pretty sure)When you say AO, you mean AO, all services without condoms? Wow, I wasn't aware there was that much of this happening in the broader FKK lands. I'm aware some clubs cater to this but thought it would be rare outside those venues.
LaBambaBoy
01-01-19, 05:58
This trip will be my first time with a car; is there free parking at Shari's? Safe enough?
Thanks everyone.
ExpatLover
01-01-19, 06:25
When you say AO, you mean AO, all services without condoms? Wow, I wasn't aware there was that much of this happening in the broader FKK lands. I'm aware some clubs cater to this but thought it would be rare outside those venues.This is the way the veteran girls can keep earning money, they do every thing without condom even anal.
This trip will be my first time with a car; is there free parking at Shari's? Safe enough?
Thanks everyone.Big, free and safe, parking, just in front of Sharks building.
Kosher Kowboy
01-01-19, 17:57
When you say AO, you mean AO, all services without condoms? Wow, I wasn't aware there was that much of this happening in the broader FKK lands. I'm aware some clubs cater to this but thought it would be rare outside those venues.Chongmal,
First of all thanks for all your contributions and enjoy the new year in fantasy land. I do think Gino is referring to vaginal AO. I think it is much more in practice than many think. My first trip there (and the girls knew I was new) I was in a double in Mainhatten and one of the two offered me AO when I mentioned it was hard to cum in the condom. However she asked for 1 K. At that point I knew it was there but did not negotiate it. My next stop was Oase where it was once again offered again for a very high price but she came down to 200 e (on top of the 50 e BBBJ / Fuck / DATY) session we were in; hindsight 20/20 I should have offered her 100 on top of the 50 and walked out with AO for 150 total. Than it was off to Berlin for a week where it was offered at Artemis for a very high price, I didn't bother negotiating it. Over time it happened a few times sometimes the WG just did it no charge, one time the condom broke and she told me not to stop and the next few times were all AO and recently I got it on the cheap included for 100 actually offered for 50 but decided best to give her 100 for a few reasons.
I am told by others it is rampant at Sharks and Oase but can't say for sure from experience recently but I can say just looking at the Mainhatten girls going off my gut, experiences and ' clues' that it is a gold mine of AO waiting to be tapped but I think it is due to my regularity and girls using ' AO as a weapon' to entice, steal and or keep a client much the same as here. I know a girl who is AO now who used to work Paradise and AO there is very common per her but for the regulars not the ' walk ins' unless they want to pay a fortune which is what I suspect the Mainhatten, Oase and Artemis girls all tried on me my first trip as I was new and they went for the kill but in doing so told me it is readily available.
I think becoming regular at one club is one's best bet for AO (on top of money) and I could be wrong but I suspect the local Germans probably know who these girls all are and probably have their own groups and perhaps even private forums as we do here where they are invite only and all guys share the names. If you ask me if a list were published of all the Sharks and Oase girls who did AO there would be tons of grossed out and or heartbroken and many jealous guys. Just in the last few days two maybe three posters have said they did AO with some of Siri's regulars.
IMHO if a guy is seeing a girl regularly at 200 e plus a visit or even less and isn't getting AO and likes AO he is spinning his tires in the mud and she either 1) won't AO him or 2) he needs to find another girl who will.
AO is a service just as much as BBBJ or DFK or CIM or Anal etc. , it is for sale, up to the buyer to find it if they want it and if they want it and are paying a regular steadily and not getting it time to find another. I will also add I think there are many girls who will not AO at all however with so many girls in each club if it is your thing it is there, go forth and find it!
Parking lot in front of Shark is often full. But there is plenty of parking in the street, when you exit Shark's to the right. Also there is a carglass, which can be used during non-office hours. There is even a larger parking lot, about 300 m to the left if you keep going.
This trip will be my first time with a car; is there free parking at Shari's? Safe enough?
Thanks everyone.
This trip will be my first time with a car; is there free parking at Shari's? Safe enough?
Thanks everyone.Free parking. Pretty safe. But you better not have even one alcoholic drink or any drug in your body while driving, else you will be picked up by the local Polizei, at least a 50% chance.
Steve 9696
01-01-19, 18:54
Chongmal,
First of all thanks for all your contributions and enjoy the new year in fantasy land. I do think Gino is referring to vaginal AO. I think it is much more in practice than many think. My first trip there (and the girls knew I was new) I was in a double in Mainhatten and one of the two offered me AO when I mentioned it was hard to cum in the condom. However she asked for 1 K. At that point I knew it was there but did not negotiate it. My next stop was Oase where it was once again offered again for a very high price but she came down to 200 e (on top of the 50 e BBBJ / Fuck / DATY) session we were in; hindsight 20/20 I should have offered her 100 on top of the 50 and walked out with AO for 150 total. Than it was off to Berlin for a week where it was offered at Artemis for a very high price, I didn't bother negotiating it. Over time it happened a few times sometimes the WG just did it no charge, one time the condom broke and she told me not to stop and the next few times were all AO and recently I got it on the cheap included for 100 actually offered for 50 but decided best to give her 100 for a few reasons.
I am told by others it is rampant at Sharks and Oase but can't say for sure from experience recently but I can say just looking at the Mainhatten girls going off my gut, experiences and ' clues' that it is a gold mine of AO waiting to be tapped but I think it is due to my regularity and girls using ' AO as a weapon' to entice, steal and or keep a client much the same as here. I know a girl who is AO now who used to work Paradise and AO there is very common per her but for the regulars not the ' walk ins' unless they want to pay a fortune which is what I suspect the Mainhatten, Oase and Artemis girls all tried on me my first trip as I was new and they went for the kill but in doing so told me it is readily available.
I think becoming regular at one club is one's best bet for AO (on top of money) and I could be wrong but I suspect the local Germans probably know who these girls all are and probably have their own groups and perhaps even private forums as we do here where they are invite only and all guys share the names. If you ask me if a list were published of all the Sharks and Oase girls who did AO there would be tons of grossed out and or heartbroken and many jealous guys. Just in the last few days two maybe three posters have said they did AO with some of Siri's regulars.
IMHO if a guy is seeing a girl regularly at 200 e plus a visit or even less and isn't getting AO and likes AO he is spinning his tires in the mud and she either 1) won't AO him or 2) he needs to find another girl who will.
AO is a service just as much as BBBJ or DFK or CIM or Anal etc. , it is for sale, up to the buyer to find it if they want it and if they want it and are paying a regular steadily and not getting it time to find another. I will also add I think there are many girls who will not AO at all however with so many girls in each club if it is your thing it is there, go forth and find it!I won't suggest I am an expert, but in researching Austria, it appears AO is legal and offered as a matter of course at many venues. It is called Natur Spritzen (CIP) and publically advertises on various girls pages. So I would assume easier to come by and at a cheaper price than Germany. FWIW.
Of course every place in Darmstadt is very safe. The 50% chance is exaggerated by about two orders of magniute. At least. I live in Germany, and "enjoy" a drug control about every other year, and drive 30,000 km / annum.
Free parking. Pretty safe. But you better not have even one alcoholic drink or any drug in your body while driving, else you will be picked up by the local Polizei, at least a 50% chance.
Chongmal,
First of all thanks for all your contributions and enjoy the new year in fantasy land. I do think Gino is referring to vaginal AO. I think it is much more in practice than many think. My first trip there (and the girls knew I was new) I was in a double in Mainhatten and one of the two offered me AO when I mentioned it was hard to cum in the condom. However she asked for 1 K. At that point I knew it was there but did not negotiate it. My next stop was Oase where it was once again offered again for a very high price but she came down to 200 e (on top of the 50 e BBBJ / Fuck / DATY) session we were in; hindsight 20/20 I should have offered her 100 on top of the 50 and walked out with AO for 150 total. Than it was off to Berlin for a week where it was offered at Artemis for a very high price, I didn't bother negotiating it. Over time it happened a few times sometimes the WG just did it no charge, one time the condom broke and she told me not to stop and the next few times were all AO and recently I got it on the cheap included for 100 actually offered for 50 but decided best to give her 100 for a few reasons.
I am told by others it is rampant at Sharks and Oase but can't say for sure from experience recently but I can say just looking at the Mainhatten girls going off my gut, experiences and ' clues' that it is a gold mine of AO waiting to be tapped but I think it is due to my regularity and girls using ' AO as a weapon' to entice, steal and or keep a client much the same as here. I know a girl who is AO now who used to work Paradise and AO there is very common per her but for the regulars not the ' walk ins' unless they want to pay a fortune which is what I suspect the Mainhatten, Oase and Artemis girls all tried on me my first trip as I was new and they went for the kill but in doing so told me it is readily available.
I think becoming regular at one club is one's best bet for AO (on top of money) and I could be wrong but I suspect the local Germans probably know who these girls all are and probably have their own groups and perhaps even private forums as we do here where they are invite only and all guys share the names. If you ask me if a list were published of all the Sharks and Oase girls who did AO there would be tons of grossed out and or heartbroken and many jealous guys. Just in the last few days two maybe three posters have said they did AO with some of Siri's regulars.
IMHO if a guy is seeing a girl regularly at 200 e plus a visit or even less and isn't getting AO and likes AO he is spinning his tires in the mud and she either 1) won't AO him or 2) he needs to find another girl who will.
AO is a service just as much as BBBJ or DFK or CIM or Anal etc. , it is for sale, up to the buyer to find it if they want it and if they want it and are paying a regular steadily and not getting it time to find another. I will also add I think there are many girls who will not AO at all however with so many girls in each club if it is your thing it is there, go forth and find it!You both are right on the money KK and Optimist. I also feel that AO became more common offer in previously non-AO clubs after the new law in 2017. Some girls told me that Clubs no longer specifically ban AO as both AO and BBBJ are equally illegal so they can't control one and not the other one. Many of them feel that if I'm breaking the law, might as well go for the maximum possible money or my pleasure or both. Even some of the older top girls who used to be non-AO (but BBBJ and CIM) are changing mindset to this business. For the new younger WGs, sex education in Germany (part of getting the WG license paper) is now refrain from both BBBJ and AO (use condoms for both), but when they start in a club (or a house / RLD) their older guiding sisters (aka Romanian cartels) tell them they can charge extra for BBBJ as club can no longer force them to provide BBBJ for any session, and they add up in their mind that they can also charge extra for AO. Kinda like BBBJ is the new illegal gateway-drug into full AO with CIP etc. Once you push or encourage someone to break the law, it's mostly a slippery slope. Even big clubs lost all controls they used to have about AO. Now you can have BBBJ with full AO in kinos or gardens in most FKKs as long as both the girl and the guy are willing, club management will likely turn a blind eye to maintain business.
Chongmal,
First of all thanks for all your contributions and enjoy the new year in fantasy land. I do think Gino is referring to vaginal AO. I think it is much more in practice than many think. My first trip there (and the girls knew I was new) I was in a double in Mainhatten and one of the two offered me AO when I mentioned it was hard to cum in the condom. However she asked for 1 K. At that point I knew it was there but did not negotiate it. My next stop was Oase where it was once again offered again for a very high price but she came down to 200 e (on top of the 50 e BBBJ / Fuck / DATY) session we were in; hindsight 20/20 I should have offered her 100 on top of the 50 and walked out with AO for 150 total. Than it was off to Berlin for a week where it was offered at Artemis for a very high price, I didn't bother negotiating it. Over time it happened a few times sometimes the WG just did it no charge, one time the condom broke and she told me not to stop and the next few times were all AO and recently I got it on the cheap included for 100 actually offered for 50 but decided best to give her 100 for a few reasons.
I am told by others it is rampant at Sharks and Oase but can't say for sure from experience recently but I can say just looking at the Mainhatten girls going off my gut, experiences and ' clues' that it is a gold mine of AO waiting to be tapped but I think it is due to my regularity and girls using ' AO as a weapon' to entice, steal and or keep a client much the same as here. I know a girl who is AO now who used to work Paradise and AO there is very common per her but for the regulars not the ' walk ins' unless they want to pay a fortune which is what I suspect the Mainhatten, Oase and Artemis girls all tried on me my first trip as I was new and they went for the kill but in doing so told me it is readily available.Interesting, the reason I asked is some posters say AO in reference to OO. In the clubs I attend I've known a few that AO, but rarely are they my choice of woman type. The one I know who is my type got pregnant and claimed to a client he was the father. I say, from how many men she did that with what makes your sperm special. I personally never pursued AO. I'm happy stroking in my gummies but enjoy a traditional BJ. If a girl approaches with harsh cum breath I probably shy away. Simple hygiene is appreciated. Same goes for a stinky vagina. A couple times I've been about ten stroke in and had to pull out and cancel the session. When the girl asked why I told her I can't handle the smell.
I guess I'm not totally hard core. If one of my favorites is doing AO I won't stop if I know, as long as she delivers for me what I want.
Just in the last few days two maybe three posters have said they did AO with some of Siri's regulars.One was only telling about CIM, and as I told to the second: I would like to see how he looks like and how girls look at him when they see him, but he didn't answer. In this bullshit business, I only believe what I see with my own eyes and what I experience, but for sure, not all what is written on internet.
Anyway, risks I was telling about, are with AO girls fucked AO whole days, usually not pretty girls and forbidden by new law, not girls who fuck with their BF, or are so in love for a client to will to feel his hot cum deep inside of their belly. Usually, women in love don't ask for money, because they want to give her good image to their lover.
Well it is about time till new alternative to condom should be invented. Pill is good, but not convenient, so I hope some kind of gel or something is more nicer and real feel of bareback as it is bareback. Let us hope for such a new biotechnology then we all can be more happy mongers LOL!Perhaps a nano tech gel with 50% programmed to detect and kill bacteria and virus and 50% programmed to provide stimulation. I like the thought. Now we just need to find a Japanese lab to do the are&the on the idea. I'm sure with the advances in nano tech it can't be so far off.
Well it is about time till new alternative to condom should be invented. Pill is good, but not convenient, so I hope some kind of gel or something is more nicer and real feel of bareback as it is bareback. Let us hope for such a new biotechnology then we all can be more happy mongers LOL!Perhaps a nano tech gel with 50% programmed to detect and kill bacteria and virus and 50% programmed to provide stimulation. I like the thought. Now we just need to find a Japanese lab to do the R&D on the idea. I'm sure with the advances in nano tech it can't be so far off.
Of course every place in Darmstadt is very safe. The 50% chance is exaggerated by about two orders of magniute. At least. I live in Germany, and "enjoy" a drug control about every other year, and drive 30,000 km / annum.But you probably forgot to consider that the Polizei in Darmstadt who are on stage near Sharks are one of the most "entertaining" bunch? 😂.
HarvestBoi
01-01-19, 19:51
First of all thanks for all your contributions and enjoy the new year in fantasy land. I do think Gino is referring to vaginal AO.
AO is a service just as much as BBBJ or DFK or CIM or Anal etc. , it is for sale, up to the buyer to find it if they want it and if they want it and are paying a regular steadily and not getting it time to find another. I will also add I think there are many girls who will not AO at all however with so many girls in each club if it is your thing it is there, go forth and find it!KK, kudos as well for your contributions. Good recap of the AO situation. I've been curious about going raw sometimes too since I've gotten to the point where I mostly don't fuck because condoms. The problem for me is being on a scene long enough to gain the necessary trust. Goals for the new year LOL.
Kosher Kowboy
01-01-19, 20:20
Now you can have BBBJ with full AO in kinos or gardens in most FKKs as long as both the girl and the guy are willing, club management will likely turn a blind eye to maintain business.I saw BBBJ in a kino last trip and this was never the case until recently at Mainhatten. I also saw a girl (German worked Sakura for long time) prior month fucking in the hot tub and her purse was not in arms length and not one condom wrapper nearby, later I told her I wanted the session he got she said ' we were just grinding' the next time I asked her she told me ' he did more than the half hour' almost a clear hint book her for 1-2+ hours she will AO. I saw multiple BBBJ's in the garden too something ' taboo' months ago and in 2017 never done. I agree the clubs have lightened up a tad; I saw girls at Oase riding guys last trip but no clue if was bare or not it is dark by the screen. A non-frequent (maybe 1-2 times every other year visitor to Oase) I know also reviewed here a girl simply AO'ed him w / o ' permission' in what appears to be an attempt to make more money if I recall correctly.
Just curious are German girls in to AO more as a higher percentage than others? I ask only because my first AO was a German gal, the girl who offered it at Artemis was German (I am an idiot she was fucking gorgeous and I should have counter offered her, this girl I saw in the hot tub was German (and on my to see list) and another German girl at a club on a recent visit hinted when she said ' I will give you what the others won't' which could mean a price break or a free CIM but my gut is she is AO as girls all know who is AO in many cases and she came on to me ironically right after I had AO with that other girl.
I won't suggest I am an expert, but in researching Austria, it appears AO is legal and offered as a matter of course at many venues. It is called Natur Spritzen (CIP) and publically advertises on various girls pages. So I would assume easier to come by and at a cheaper price than Germany. FWIW.Yes, I look at the booksusi site (and others) for indies and studios and the term you posted I see as well as ' Reinsritzen'; sometime it is +20 e other times fixed. It appears to me best to stay by the Westbahnhoff station and you are in walking distance to the studios and it looks like for a half hour 50-70 no more than 90 gets you the AO cum dump package and better deal on the hour but I would just studio hop. The indies seem very reliable per my readings and most are really cheap even for two hours. This one recently suffered a DNA blasted cervix by a friend.
https://booksusi.com/hostessen/wien/kim-ao-moglich-auch-haus-u.html
Only problem with the studios is some seem to force you right in to a lineup much like the Spanish brothels although couches and bars are in all the pictures. No chance to interview so you almost need to memorize the profiles as some will not do AO others are AO Light and most offer full Gypsy services. With no desire to do the Austrian FKK clubs I think Vienna best served as a 3 days side trip and the bookends Frankfurt clubs / RLD
or in our cases we can go to Mainhatten and Palace and get ' ripped off and overpay but leave ecstatic ' and get lectured by Der Auslander and Gino ! :D :D
ExpatLover
01-01-19, 21:05
I saw BBBJ in a kino last trip and this was never the case until recently at Mainhatten. I also saw a girl (German worked Sakura for long time) prior month fucking in the hot tub and her purse was not in arms length and not one condom wrapper nearby, later I told her I wanted the session he got she said ' we were just grinding' the next time I asked her she told me ' he did more than the half hour' almost a clear hint book her for 1-2+ hours she will AO. I saw multiple BBBJ's in the garden too something ' taboo' months ago and in 2017 never done. I agree the clubs have lightened up a tad; I saw girls at Oase riding guys last trip but no clue if was bare or not it is dark by the screen. A non-frequent (maybe 1-2 times every other year visitor to Oase) I know also reviewed here a girl simply AO'ed him w / o ' permission' in what appears to be an attempt to make more money if I recall correctly.
Just curious are German girls in to AO more as a higher percentage than others? I ask only because my first AO was a German gal, the girl who offered it at Artemis was German (I am an idiot she was fucking gorgeous and I should have counter offered her, this girl I saw in the hot tub was German (and on my to see list) and another German girl at a club on a recent visit hinted when she said ' I will give you what the others won't' which could mean a price break or a free CIM but my gut is she is AO as girls all know who is AO in many cases and she came on to me ironically right after I had AO with that other girl.Sorry but I saw so many times every thing without condom and I think that you are also in that. The girls have no choice that to do the maximum to earn money but we have the choice and only the very st. Mongers are doing AO with a prostitutes in a German FKK.
Nick The G
01-01-19, 21:35
I also feel that AO became more common offer in previously non-AO clubs after the new law in 2017. Some girls told me that Clubs no longer specifically ban AO as both AO and BBBJ are equally illegal so they can't control one and not the other one. Many of them feel that if I'm breaking the law, might as well go for the maximum possible money or my pleasure or both.Super! We have another AO discussion here. And it will be going on for weeks.
I remember those days when nobody knew about the term AO and everybody was fucking without condoms in the RLD in Frankfurt. That was quite some time before HIV appeared and changed the scene, and a long time before FKK clubs (with a lot of polymer business, be it condoms or silicon implants) became trendy.
LaBambaBoy
01-01-19, 22:24
Free parking. Pretty safe. But you better not have even one alcoholic drink or any drug in your body while driving, else you will be picked up by the local Polizei, at least a 50% chance.Well, since I don't drink at all, or do drugs at all (other than my little blue pill), I should be fine.
Super! We have another AO discussion here. And it will be going on for weeks.
I remember those days when nobody knew about the term AO and everybody was fucking without condoms in the RLD in Frankfurt. That was quite some time before HIV appeared and changed the scene, and a long time before FKK clubs (with a lot of polymer business, be it condoms or silicon implants) became trendy.Wow! Nick The can I call you "God" of mongering? I don't know if I will be able to even get it up by the time I have as many years of mongering experience as yours, even with the pills! Much respect to you Sir! Seriously. 🙏
As usual and suspected the club was packed. All of the girls seem to be stuck on 100 euros for 30 minutes so clearly there's some type of agreement going on, I don't remember this being the case last year. There were also many girls there just to make a fast buck with their boyfriend's along for the ride.
HarvestBoi
01-02-19, 04:26
I've RTFF and am still am unclear on the tern 'gypsy service'. Methinks this must be a central European term?
Der Auslander
01-02-19, 06:18
Super! We have another AO discussion here. And it will be going on for weeks.Just talk. Guys shooting the breeze and hoping to find the Holy Grail! Most guys reading this forum and who attend FKK / Sauna Clubs will never ever get offered AO in any of the Frankfurt Mega-Clubs (Sharks / Oase / World / Palace / Mainhattan / Rom) even if they are club regulars or not. If you are an infrequent FKK / Sauna Club visitor your chance of getting this type of AO offer is probably zero and even if you are a regular visitor spending a hundred or so per session your chances are not much better. Of course exceptional circumstances can apply but generally speaking its not even enough to be a club regular; you need also to be a high roller and be prepared to spend hundreds on the same girl each month. Its really got to be worth her while to keep you as a customer. Worth her while to keep you interested and keep you from wandering into the arms of another hooker. Any guy I know who receives this type of service drops several hundred euros on his hooker of choice per visit and does this on a pretty regular basis. He may only visit the club once or twice a month but he will book his lady for the entire evening, or for several hours at the very least and do this on a regularly. Or he may visit the club two or three times a week (if local) and drop two or three hundred euros on the same lady each visit. Any guy spending thousands per annum on the same lady is definitely a very very good customer and definitely worth keeping. Hookers will fight (or at the very least compete) to get and to keep customers of this sort. She only needs several regulars of this type to make a very decent living. An offer of regular AO to keep a very good and big spending customer of this type is certainly very possible. But most guys whether they are regular customers or not will never be offered AO. Not unless they are splashing a considerable amount of cash on a regular basis. If you don't have or are not prepared to spend lots of cash, you need to go to FKK Dietzenbach or clubs of this level for your AO fix. The chances of acquiring this service in clubs like FKK Sharks are pretty slim (almost zero) unless you are handing over much currency on a regular basis. You aint going to get AO thrown in for the price of a once a month 30 minute session. Not unless the hooker in question looks like the back of the Frankfurt Airport shuttle bus! Heck the ladies are now even trying to charge extra for BBBJ. Of course the occasional exception can possibly occur but generally speaking AO dont come easy or dont come cheap. Not in a club like FKK Sharks anyway! But by all means keep searching for the Holy Grail. Its actually easy enough to find provided you are prepared to pay the price.
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The chances of acquiring this service in clubs like FKK Sharks are pretty slim (almost zero) unless you are handing over much currency on a regular basis. You aint going to get AO thrown in for the price of a once a month 30 minute session. Not unless the hooker in question looks like the back of the Frankfurt Airport shuttle bus! Heck the ladies are now even trying to charge extra for BBBJ. Of course the occasional exception can possibly occur but generally speaking AO dont come easy or dont come cheap. Not in a club like FKK Sharks anyway! But by all means keep searching for the Holy Grail. Its actually easy enough to find provided you are prepared to pay the price.
:DTotally agree. I am a regular at Sharks and I have a ton of buddies there who are regulars as well. AO is something you won't get there unless you establish a real close relationship with one of the girls, which involves substantial material investments going her way.
BBBJ on the other hand was an absolute standard for FKK clubs for as long as they exist. Nothing people even posted about because it was totally normal. The law changed last year which theoretically should have changed this. Note: "Theoretically should have" . .
Horny Harry
01-02-19, 09:33
Free parking. Pretty safe. But you better not have even one alcoholic drink or any drug in your body while driving, else you will be picked up by the local Polizei, at least a 50% chance.50%? How did you get that number? I've never seen a police checkpoint near Sharks in the Roehm Strasse that checks for DUI.
Totally agree. I am a regular at Sharks and I have a ton of buddies there who are regulars as well. AO is something you won't get there unless you establish a real close relationship with one of the girls, which involves substantial material investments going her way.
BBBJ on the other hand was an absolute standard for FKK clubs for as long as they exist. Nothing people even posted about because it was totally normal. The law changed last year which theoretically should have changed this. Note: "Theoretically should have".True, most often with most girls in most normal clubs, except Bernds, and that's why many go to AO clubs to fuck ugly AO girls. If they could fuck AO princesses at Sharks or GT, then why to go to Dietzenbach or Villa Venus or Freude? Only for M&Ms and mandarines, but with eyes crying?
Or maybe with desperate girls only getting low business.
Better not to trust all what is written. Some are not so reliable. Even I m not on the best level for English, but quite easy to notice and always better to see how the guy looks like and how girls welcome him as soon they see him, to understand if girls are so in love for this BF.
Nick The G
01-02-19, 09:56
As usual and suspected the club was packed. All of the girls seem to be stuck on 100 euros for 30 minutes so clearly there's some type of agreement going on, I don't remember this being the case last year.This "sort of agreement" was the case last year too! That is not my own experience, since I never have been to a club on the 24th or 31st of December. But there have been enough reports on this fact, maybe more by oral communication or in german fora.
Nick The G
01-02-19, 10:47
... generally speaking its not even enough to be a club regular; you need also to be a high roller and be prepared to spend hundreds on the same girl each month. Its really got to be worth her while to keep you as a customer. Worth her while to keep you interested and keep you from wandering into the arms of another hooker.True. And some guys manage to keep two or three ladies in different clubs on this level.
There is an additional perspective: those of us who practice AO run into the chance to become fathers. Even if one is allowed and willing to fuck AO, some girls will tell you that they don't want you to come inside their pussy. They will say, they have to be careful because they don't take the pill. But they are willing to play for pay.
And the dark side of it could be, that they want to have a baby from you, to ensure a better life for themselves.
While trying to get some really kinky ideas for my first Sharks visit of the year next Friday I stumbled across a Porn site showing mixed sex wrestling, my goodness what a turn on.
It's really just another form of male submissiveness letting the girl dominate & it ultimately finishes with various types of sex acts, (HJ, BJ, FS etc).
What a shame this isn't available at Sharks, I would be in front of the queue. Too much energy consumption for the girl I think!
It is remarkable how many mongers consider getting AO service from a working girl as a prize or as something to aspire to during their club visits. It is like thanking a surgeon for not sterilizing the surgical tools before your surgery. I would run 100 miles from a girl that offers such as service to me, because it would be clear that she would offer the same to many others.
I'm not surprised that working girls sometimes offer AO to a regular and not to a random mongering Joe, maybe thinking that they would not run the same health risk of getting a deadly viral infection. Most of these girls are school dropouts with very poor capabilities of doing anything else in life, so let's not consider their judgment on health risk behaviors as if they were expert doctors. They have been given with the gift of beauty by mother nature, but they are generally poorly educated and naive.
For those who are surprised about how much people care about safe sex to avoid deadly infections, like HIV, HepC, etc. Compared to the good old times in the '70's. Well, the very appearance and global spreading of these deadly infections during the beginning of the '80's is precisely the reason why most people are promoting safe sex behaviors now.
Stay safe guys!
Rock.
Horny Harry
01-02-19, 20:03
As usual and suspected the club was packed. All of the girls seem to be stuck on 100 euros for 30 minutes so clearly there's some type of agreement going on, I don't remember this being the case last year. There were also many girls there just to make a fast buck with their boyfriend's along for the ride.Yes, the E100/30 min deal was also in place last year. Long waiting times for rooms, hence the price increase.
Anyway, going to parties is for amateurs, unless you don't go to fuck but instead you feel lonely and want to chill, socialise, drink free beer (GT for example), go to the sauna or watch football on TV.
Avoid parties if you're into doing multiple sessions and want to sample as many girls as possible. The waiting times, the crowds, and the limited availability of girls seriously dampens the fun.
Steve 9696
01-02-19, 20:38
I've RTFF and am still am unclear on the tern 'gypsy service'. Methinks this must be a central European term?Believe the notorious Kosher Kowboy uses the term Gypsies to refer to his regulars at Dietzenbach, a well known AO (bareback) house near Frankfurt. Thus Gypsy services would presumably mean bareback.
Read on at your own peril for an OT word origins and geography commentary.
I assume the term Gypsies in this context came from the often confused Roma (a race / people) who are sometimes called Gypsies and Romania the country, where most of the girls are from. I believe less than 10% of Romanians are Roma / Gypsy and that is just happenstance — the two words (Roma and Romania) come from completely different origins. And the word Gypsy comes from the mistaken notion that the Roma's were from Egypt, when in fact they originated from northern India.
To summarize, the word Gypsy came from mistaking a race / people as representing a certain country (Egypt) and we are now reversing that by mistaking a nationality (Romanian) for a race / people (Roma). Clear as mud?
Been to Sharks 6-7 times last year. And must have been always lucky.
But you probably forgot to consider that the Polizei in Darmstadt who are on stage near Sharks are one of the most "entertaining" bunch? 😂.
This is to be expected, right? If I had to be working Christmas or news years eve, I would also want to charge double the money for sure.
It is even law in many countries, that normal folks earn 50% wage more on saturdays, 100% more on Sunday. My plumber does the same for weekend "emergency" services.
As usual and suspected the club was packed. All of the girls seem to be stuck on 100 euros for 30 minutes so clearly there's some type of agreement going on, I don't remember this being the case last year. There were also many girls there just to make a fast buck with their boyfriend's along for the ride.
Wait! The boyfriend was included in the price? That would be a decent price. Male DL are typically more expensive. LOL.
Or are you saying, that there were lots of part-timers dropping by for 1-2 hrs and they brought their pimp with them (paying double-entrance?
..... There were also many girls there just to make a fast buck with their boyfriend's along for the ride.
TankTank123
01-03-19, 00:22
While trying to get some really kinky ideas for my first Sharks visit of the year next Friday I stumbled across a Porn site showing mixed sex wrestling, my goodness what a turn on.Not in Sharks, but I had such a session about 3 years ago with a muscular woman ex-wrestler in one of the erotic massage studios on Rudesheimerstrasse (near FKK Sunshine) in Munich. It was either Shivala, Avienda or Mandala, can't remember which. The availability of wresltling was in her Rotelanterne advertisement I think. Face not young anymore, but fantastic muscular body.
There was even a proper wrestling mat in the studio. But she made me keep my undies on to avoid ejeculated spermies soiling her mat.
Der Auslander
01-03-19, 01:23
It is remarkable how many mongers consider getting AO service from a working girl as a prize or as something to aspire to during their club visits.Unfortunately the title of your post "AO in Sharks" and your subsequent commentary tends to give the impression (or perhaps accidentally imply) that this particular service is readily available in FKK Sharks. The reality is that to all intents and purposes this service is for the most part unavailable to the general mongering population and no more available in this club (if indeed it is available) than in any other FKK Club in the Frankfurt Area (with the exception of clubs like Dietzenbach of course). The practice is not tolerated by club management and any girl caught offering this service to customers will very likely not be allowed to work in the club again. It is known that some hookers working in FKK Clubs throughout the length and breath of Germany will sometimes offer this service (without the knowledge of the clubs management) as a mechanism to hold onto well paying and regular customers. If these customers choose to accept such an offer, it is up to them to inform themselves of the risks involved.
We are all adults here (I should hope) and I would imagine all members are well informed and well aware of any particular risks with regard to both protected and unprotected sex practices. Preaching about the rights and wrongs of unprotected sex is perhaps better written about in the "Safe Sex" Section of ISG. I would suggest that perhaps any further interaction with regard to this particular service should be held outside the FKK Sharks thread for fear of attracting unfair, unwarranted and mistaken attention to this club.
Kosher Kowboy
01-03-19, 01:42
Just talk. Guys shooting the breeze and hoping to find the Holy Grail! Most guys reading this forum and who attend FKK / Sauna Clubs will never ever get offered AO in any of the Frankfurt Mega-Clubs (Sharks / Oase / World / Palace / Mainhattan / Rom) even if they are club regulars or not. If you are an infrequent FKK / Sauna Club visitor your chance of getting this type of AO offer is probably zero and even if you are a regular visitor spending a hundred or so per session your chances are not much better. Of course exceptional circumstances can apply but generally speaking its not even enough to be a club regular; you need also to be a high roller and be prepared to spend hundreds on the same girl each month. Its really got to be worth her while to keep you as a customer. Worth her while to keep you interested and keep you from wandering into the arms of another hooker. Any guy I know who receives this type of service drops several hundred euros on his hooker of choice per visit and does this on a pretty regular basis. He may only visit the club once or twice a month but he will book his lady for the entire evening, or for several hours at the very least and do this on a regularly. Or he may visit the club two or three times a week (if local) and drop two or three hundred euros on the same lady each visit. Any guy spending thousands per annum on the same lady is definitely a very very good customer and definitely worth keeping. Hookers will fight (or at the very least compete) to get and to keep customers of this sort. She only needs several regulars of this type to make a very decent living. An offer of regular AO to keep a very good and big spending customer of this type is certainly very possible. But most guys whether they are regular customers or not will never be offered AO. Not unless they are splashing a considerable amount of cash on a regular basis. If you don't have or are not prepared to spend lots of cash, you need to go to FKK Dietzenbach or clubs of this level for your AO fix. The chances of acquiring this service in clubs like FKK Sharks are pretty slim (almost zero) unless you are handing over much currency on a regular basis. You aint going to get AO thrown in for the price of a once a month 30 minute session. Not unless the hooker in question looks like the back of the Frankfurt Airport shuttle bus! Heck the ladies are now even trying to charge extra for BBBJ. Of course the occasional exception can possibly occur but generally speaking AO dont come easy or dont come cheap. Not in a club like FKK Sharks anyway! But by all means keep searching for the Holy Grail. Its actually easy enough to find provided you are prepared to pay the price.
:DPerhaps my hottest girl I have ever had AO with in Germany occurred at Mainhatten in a 50 Euro session with zero upsell, she just ripped it off and fucked me AO the next few times I saw her. Same thing with the second girl there, in that case the condom broke but the next few sessions were all AO for 50 base rate. Just this past trip within ten seconds of chatting I sensed AO would be easy so tossed out my new line and the immediate reply' We don't have to use a condom. ' This girl did not look like the back of a Frankfurt Airport shuttle bus, certainly not in the top tier either. Working on those.
FYI I do agree with 90 percent of what you say and think it is spot on with the exception I think a lot more guys are getting AO on the cheap than people think.
This past summer I was often seeing a girl (all covered except BBBJ) who specifically left Sharks so this is coming right from the horses mouth that the main reason she left is she did not want to have to give up the shop as many girls were giving services away for cheap including bareback something she said she will not do as she doesn't want her career to end early. Perhaps she does it with high rollers but I do know a high roller of hers who says he doesn't get it nor asks for it (could be lying, never know) as well as a former client of hers she told me about who she said asked for AO constantly and eventually went away to try it on another girl. I have no reason to doubt this girls assessment that tons of Sharks are doing AO for cheap.
I wasn't born under a rock and I know there is no way this girl at Mainhatten who let me use my Invisible condom only lets me and I know she let me as she was slow and can't compete with my Queens in looks (body yes) and is going for the steal. I am sure others bareback her as well probably several. She also told me she has a friend if I want to do a double and no reason to assume that wouldn't include the use of the Invisible condom as well.
In light of the fact I am one of thousands and thousands who flies in how could one not assume that if I am at 3 AO girls maybe 4 at Mainhatten in my time there a club known for upselling and / or higher rates how could I possibly rationalize that other guys are not getting AO for cheap in 50 and 100 Euro sessions? There is absolutely nothing special about me that would qualify me to get this service for cheap and be ' the only one'; I can only conclude based on my own experiences that AO occurs nightly at Mainhatten.
At Oase a friend who goes once every two years got AO. Two other friends have a friend who got AO at Oase too one in a 100 hour and one for 100 extra tacked on to his 50. One of those same guys got AO at World as well. As one guy who reported this to me, sometimes AO is just pure luck, the guy gets lucky (regardless of rate).
In the case of Sharks we can all theorize all we want as to it's frequency but when an actual girl who worked the floor left and specifically due to too many girls offering AO I think in my mind that answers the questions.
I agree with most of your points, just disagree that many girls much more than we think are offering it up to fly ins, guys paying 50 and 100 some for free some adding it on. I also think you are right that ' AO Turf Wars' between girls occurs at the higher priced levels but I think the random AO's are occurring with great frequency in the lower tiers where the objective of the girl is probably just to get business period.
I also know a girl working in the RLD who worked at FKK Paradise and that ' standard' for AO at Paradise is 100-200 extra depending on the girl.
And that most girls including her did it selectively
AO is on the rise in just about every country now and just about all popular worldwide monger destinations, why would it not be in Germany?
Der Auslander
01-03-19, 01:54
Perhaps my hottest girl I have ever had AO with in Germany occurred at Mainhatten in a 50 Euro session with zero upsell, she just ripped it off and fucked me AO the next few times I saw her. Perhaps you are indeed just lucky in FKK Mainhattan or perhaps your skillset is such that the hookers cant resist themselves or perhaps you are correct and AO is on the rise.
I would suggest that at the moment the views which I have expressed have been confirmed by two other regular members. So these views are not particular to just myself. If times are indeed changing you will be proven to be correct and there will be further reports of AO service being offered to members in clubs like Mainhattan.
Kosher Kowboy
01-03-19, 02:38
Perhaps you are indeed just lucky in FKK Mainhattan or perhaps your skillset is such that the hookers cant resist themselves or perhaps you are correct and AO is on the rise.
I would suggest that at the moment the views which I have expressed have been confirmed by two other regular members. So these views are not particular to just myself. If times are indeed changing you will be proven to be correct and there will be further reports of AO service being offered to members in clubs like Mainhattan.RTC's aside.
I don't think one mainstream has it (Mainhatten for example) and the next doesn't; I think it goes on at all. Nor do I think this is a case of right or wrong or incorrect or correct simply a case of guys sharing their various experiences and in many cases guys not sharing their experiences. Reporters like you and I and others are a tiny percentage of even a fraction of the number of guys going to these clubs and most don't report. Many also won't report AO. I do not think any member can confirm or not confirm reality what they can confirm is their own experiences. In general I would take the case of the departed Shark not as fact (they all lie) but very telling.
One thing we know for sure is several guys have reported STDs out of Sharks, I do not think they all came from blowjobs and DATY more likely unprotected vaginal sex.
Of course I got lucky at Mainhatten, there is nothing special about me that would make a girl offer up AO to me and not the next guy, and it certainly isn't my 50 or 100 Euros that is chicken feed to most. I think you accurately laid out ' the conditions' that AO occurs under and as I said I agree, except for the fact it occurs at lower levels as well, mainly out of the desperation for business or ' just happens'.
It certainly isn't my skill set (if anyone is giving lessons please sign me up) rather pure luck otherwise it would have happened more than the few times it did. 3 or 4 out of 300 or 400 sessions (maybe) is hardly skill on my end.
TeddyBears
01-03-19, 07:41
For some girls it's perhaps getting more money in their pocket, but from my own experience getting bareback sex has happened to me with girls that I have that special connection with, just because the girl sell sex doesn't mean that she's a robot with no feelings. Happened with two girls at Artemis and always when repeating them afterwards. Also in Madrid and Malaga with a handful of Brazilian girls this has occurred, but never because I give them more money, just happened in the heat of the moment I guess. Honestly it's not very smart behavior cause no one wants STD or even worse an unwanted child. I also think there is a huge dark numbers here because most people don't report this, I know I haven't at least.
I wish the girls will think two steps ahead and don't offer this service, cause there will come no good from it IMO.
Not in Sharks, but I had such a session about 3 years ago with a muscular woman ex-wrestler in one of the erotic massage studios on Rudesheimerstrasse (near FKK Sunshine) in Munich. It was either Shivala, Avienda or Mandala, can't remember which. The availability of wresltling was in her Rotelanterne advertisement I think. Face not young anymore, but fantastic muscular body.
There was even a proper wrestling mat in the studio. But she made me keep my undies on to avoid ejeculated spermies soiling her mat.Lucky you got to experience it!
I have no doubt it will be highly unlikely any ladies at Sharks would offer this although money does talk!
In the same way one of my favourites insists some customers like to pay double just to watch a guy & girl having sex. Despite her continued insistence this often occurs I again have my doubts.
When I'm back at Sharks for a very brief visit next week I might strike lucky with a new kinky experience. I always find every visit is different so hopefully next week will not disappoint?
Perhaps you are indeed just lucky in FKK Mainhattan or perhaps your skillset is such that the hookers cant resist themselves or perhaps you are correct and AO is on the rise.
I would suggest that at the moment the views which I have expressed have been confirmed by two other regular members. So these views are not particular to just myself. If times are indeed changing you will be proven to be correct and there will be further reports of AO service being offered to members in clubs like Mainhattan.Yeah, she also give Christmas vouchers and discount codes. End of season sale is coning UO, WO be ready all.
Did the vacation for some girls started yet? How is the club these days?
Nick The G
01-03-19, 18:25
Did the vacation for some girls started yet? How is the club these days?Yesterday: full of men, and very limited lineup. Vacations for many girls already started after the weekend with the Christmas party in December. Those who stayed and took part in the special reward program had to stay until the new year's eve event was over. Many of them are gone by now.
As I already mentioned, with regards to the lineup, the next three to four weeks IMHO will be the worst time of the year! Which doesn't mean that you can't have good sex there.
Some names from yesterday:
Abi.
Alexa.
Angelina.
Anita.
Aura? (worked as Madalina in FKK-World some time ago).
Betty.
Crystal (black hair).
Dalma.
Daisy.
Dali.
Enya.
Emma.
Gina.
Inka.
Irina.
Isabella.
Johanna / Luna.
Mandy.
Mira.
Morena.
Niki.
Patricia.
Roxi.
Serena.
Mona Lisa.
Viorica.
Yra.
Kosher Kowboy
01-03-19, 18:47
For some girls it's perhaps getting more money in their pocket, but from my own experience getting bareback sex has happened to me with girls that I have that special connection with, just because the girl sell sex doesn't mean that she's a robot with no feelings.
just happened in the heat of the moment I guess. Honestly it's not very smart behavior cause no one wants STD or even worse an unwanted child. I also think there is a huge dark numbers here because most people don't report this, I know I haven't at least.That's yet another reason it happens regardless if Cheap Charlie is on the bed or a billionaire in town from New York City doing a 12 hour.
When it comes to AO / STDs it is all a numbers game and I just want to say although this lengthy discussion on it ended up in the Sharks thread it would be unfair to single out Sharks IMO especially since the guys and girls who go / work at Sharks also hop around other clubs; ' cross contamination' essentially so no one could even say if the initial virus was given from a Sharks girl to a guy or if a guy from Oase brought it in after AO a Oase lady or if a guy went to an RTC and brought it in or perhaps a guy from Berlin was in town who had an STD from his non working girl significant other who cheated on him and he brought it to Sharks.
When it comes to AO only two people (unless it was a trio or more) can know for sure and accurately report and those people are the participants who were in the room and anyone who was not in that room would have no clue either way unless they had video surveillance to see, other than that it is speculation or second hand info as the guy can come out with his lips sealed or he can tell all his buddies but what is to say he is telling the truth or not? Once again, the only folks who know or know why or how are the folks who were in the room when the door closed.
So I thank those willing to share their AO tales and to the even braver folks who shared their STDs stories.
I also think in light of this topic being ' universal' perhaps it should be continued in general or the lounge, AO and STDs are not Sharks specific rather ' every club specific'
IMHO
Horny Harry
01-03-19, 20:20
Yesterday: full of men, and very limited lineup. Vacations for many girls already started after the weekend with the Christmas party in December. Those who stayed and took part in the special reward program had to stay until the new year's eve event was over. Many of them are gone by now.
As I already mentioned, with regards to the lineup, the next three to four weeks IMHO will be the worst time of the year! Which doesn't mean that you can't have good sex there.Indeed Nick, and as you said, there are also some girls who will try to seize this opportunity to make some money now that the main competition is on holiday. I recon that a 3-4 week drought is a bit much though, some (but not all) stunners will start returning during the middle of January.
P.S. Tried to send you a PM a while ago, but your mailbox is full.
ExpatLover
01-03-19, 23:12
Yesterday: full of men, and very limited lineup. Vacations for many girls already started after the weekend with the Christmas party in December. Those who stayed and took part in the special reward program had to stay until the new year's eve event was over. Many of them are gone by now.
As I already mentioned, with regards to the lineup, the next three to four weeks IMHO will be the worst time of the year! Which doesn't mean that you can't have good sex there..Every year the same story, last January I tested a lot of clubs mostly the LU were bad until mid of February.
TankTank123
01-03-19, 23:46
In the same way one of my favourites insists some customers like to pay double just to watch a guy & girl having sex. Despite her continued insistence this often occurs I again have my doubts.Well, I can vouch that twice in World last year, a guy approached me asking to be able to watch a session I was going to have with a girl, and offering to pay both the girl and me for the duration of the session. I did not agree.
Maybe I should have agreed, because later that night, when I was in one of the small rooms (with curtains instead of a door) opposite the shisha bar with a different girl, I saw him peeping in.
Der Auslander
01-04-19, 00:37
Yesterday: full of men, and very limited lineup. Vacations for many girls already started after the weekend with the Christmas party in December. Those who stayed and took part in the special reward program had to stay until the new year's eve event was over. Many of them are gone by now. As I already mentioned, with regards to the lineup, the next three to four weeks IMHO will be the worst time of the year! Which doesn't mean that you can't have good sex there.
Some names from yesterday:Thanks for keeping it real Nick. Good information. Many thanks.
offering to pay both the girl and me for the duration of the session. I did not agree.Should have used that opportunity to ask for every extra under the sun. And asked your girl if she had a friend.
ExpatLover
01-04-19, 07:29
Yesterday: full of men, and very limited lineup. Vacations for many girls already started after the weekend with the Christmas party in December. Those who stayed and took part in the special reward program had to stay until the new year's eve event was over. Many of them are gone by now.
As I already mentioned, with regards to the lineup, the next three to four weeks IMHO will be the worst time of the year! Which doesn't mean that you can't have good sex there.
Some names from yesterday:
Abi.
Alexa.
Angelina.
Anita.
Aura? (worked as Madalina in FKK-World some time ago).
Betty.
Crystal (black hair).
Dalma.
Daisy.
Dali.
Enya.January and February are the months to enjoy other pleasures than FKK, use this time to makes us fit for 10 comings months of FKK and escort.
Well, I can vouch that twice in World last year, a guy approached me asking to be able to watch a session I was going to have with a girl, and offering to pay both the girl and me for the duration of the session. I did not agree.
Maybe I should have agreed, because later that night, when I was in one of the small rooms (with curtains instead of a door) opposite the shisha bar with a different girl, I saw him peeping in.You're the second person to confirm these scenarios so I think I will owe the Sharks lady an apology in doubting her when I see her next Friday.
However not being an Adonis I can't understand why anyone would want to watch me / us. However she insists she could find someone next Friday?
I'm seriously tempted to let her try and tease her when she fails. However if she succeeds it's going to be lets say bizarrely interesting.
Nick The G
01-04-19, 13:28
P.S. Tried to send you a PM a while ago, but your mailbox is full.True! Shame on me!
I will delete some messages soon.
YamaYama0519
01-04-19, 22:14
According to Stuart at LSH, Evita is back.
Kosher Kowboy
01-05-19, 00:25
According to Stuart at LSH, Evita is back.I wonder as the ' news breaks' (source is legit) how many of her regulars are on the various airline sites looking for flights to Frankfurt; I bet someone (or more) pays the last minute (two weeks out) fares!
I paid $793.46 for a seat in Comfort+ on the aisle on Delta leaving next weekend from Atlanta. Comfort+ is currently sold out and the economy coach fare is $2172.43. I'll sell my seat to any desperate Evita fan looking to get on a flight for $2000, bidding is to be in $100 increments if multiple buyers surface. If you buy my ticket no refunds if the news is not true or if this Evita is an impostor. All sales are final. Cash only.
Pretty cheap for you Evita fans considering some of you pay 500-1000 plus Euros for an appointment.
Good luck to you guys, and good luck to Evita. I wonder how many Evita posts will be uploaded in the next 24 hours. We're already at 2, I did my part! YamaYama did his.
or Stuart has pulled a fast one on us, perhaps January 4 is April Fool's Day in Germany, :D
TankTank123
01-05-19, 02:58
I paid $793.46 for a seat in Comfort+ on the aisle on Delta leaving next weekend from Atlanta. I'll sell my seat to any desperate Evita fan looking to get on a flight for $2000, bidding is to be in $100 increments if multiple buyers surface. Die-hard Evita fans need tickets from Tokyo, not Atlanta! I will wait for the tide to subside.
LiveBoarding
01-05-19, 03:25
I can imagine her being overloaded with men all night long. I am already preparing to queue up!
How did you manage to get the news this fast? Is this confirmed?
According to Stuart at LSH, Evita is back.
Nick The G
01-05-19, 04:18
Good luck to you guys, and good luck to Evita. I wonder how many Evita posts will be uploaded in the next 24 hours. We're already at 2, I did my part! YamaYama did his.
or Stuart has pulled a fast one on us, perhaps January 4 is April Fool's Day in Germany, :DEvita is back. I saw her today. Some kilos more and no more dark hair!
Der Auslander
01-05-19, 04:42
I can imagine her being overloaded with men all night long. I am already preparing to queue up!Don't understand all the fuss. Is she fucking for free or something?
She's ok looking but not particularly special. Just another hooker.
BigBuddy69
01-05-19, 07:05
She'll do sexy things by WhatsApp.
Don't understand all the fuss. Is she fucking for free or something?
She's ok looking but not particularly special. Just another hooker.Never tried, but she seems to be able to sell illusion to dream, when many others just sell body and sex. Many told me about her, even Germans, mostly positive, when past stars left.
Maybe superstar Katalina retired, then happy for her.
Kosher Kowboy
01-05-19, 14:56
Evita is back. I saw her today. Some kilos more and no more dark hair!Evita aside it must be a winter thing but all the Gypsies and even my Mainhatten Queens all added kilos it seems like. Congrats on seeing Evita be it in the biblical meaning of the word or just in passing either way you guys are lucky to have the home court advantage; enjoy your weekend. Thanks for the updates / LU's.
Don't understand all the fuss. Is she fucking for free or something?
She's ok looking but not particularly special. Just another hooker.Perfect timing for you Shamrocks, she has a new thing for Irish men I heard and if you can prove you are from Ireland (born and raised) and have three years of recent Irish tax returns you are in, just grab a voucher to fill out at the front desk. One 50 MG Viagra pill also included and on the house. If you want to finger her the desk will also give you extra small finger sized condoms; she is keeping her pussy extra clean and wants no bacteria in it from fingernails or to get it's precious lining scratched as she has too many bookings and men in the air now headed to FRA
Die-hard Evita fans need tickets from Tokyo, not Atlanta! I will wait for the tide to subside.Very true, the highways to the airport leaving Tokyo are jammed packed now. The Shanghai and Seoul air traffic control towers are also reporting long flight delays as well and the que of planes resembles JFKs rush hour 30 plane que to taxi and take off. Several charter flights were reserved yesterday and the pilots they scrambled for are getting paid time and a half. Speaking of JFK economy fares for next weekend with a one week minimum stay are under $700 ! Unfortunately the American Evita aficionados are shit out of luck with long TSA lines thanks to our idiot President who won't pay them, closes our government and now the TSA workers all call in sick. What a fucking schmuck we elected. I wonder if Shark's security would toss Trump out if he tried to ' grab her by the pussy!
RichCandyMan
01-05-19, 15:22
While talking recently to a lady I regularly see at Sharks about different men's sexual appetites she told me that some men like to pay double to the girl while another chap & her enjoy themselves as he watches / masterbates.
I argued she was totally making it up or it may have been a "one off" but she got a bit uptight with me and was adamant this occurred more than I thought.
In fact she said she would try to find a "watcher" for us just to prove she was correct. I still don't believe it!
Has anyone heard of this practice, it sounds utterly bizarre to me, one man having free fun while another pays for both, even accounting for the strange "goings on" at Clubs?
On another more common point for some reason unknown to me although I like being rimmed I've never asked for it despite numerous visits to Sharks and other Clubs.
I presume like most things some girls do & some don't but is this generally considered an "extra" like CIM & Anal or can it be negotiated in the normal fee?
I will be at Sharks next week just for a day for my first visit of the year so it could prove enlightening!I do this all the time, there are many reason, most important one is you know your dick and how you want to massage it to come than some girl gives you blow job bites your dick and you are all sore.
Evita aside it must be a winter thing but all the Gypsies and even my Mainhatten Queens all added kilos it seems like. Congrats on seeing Evita be it in the biblical meaning of the word or just in passing either way you guys are lucky to have the home court advantage; enjoy your weekend. Thanks for the updates / LU's.
Perfect timing for you Shamrocks, she has a new thing for Irish men I heard and if you can prove you are from Ireland (born and raised) and have three years of recent Irish tax returns you are in, just grab a voucher to fill out at the front desk. One 50 MG Viagra pill also included and on the house. If you want to finger her the desk will also give you extra small finger sized condoms; she is keeping her pussy extra clean and wants no bacteria in it from fingernails or to get it's precious lining scratched as she has too many bookings and men in the air now headed to FRA
Very true, the highways to the airport leaving Tokyo are jammed packed now. The Shanghai and Seoul air traffic control towers are also reporting long flight delays as well and the que of planes resembles JFKs rush hour 30 plane que to taxi and take off. Several charter flights were reserved yesterday and the pilots they scrambled for are getting paid time and a half. Speaking of JFK economy fares for next weekend with a one week minimum stay are under $700 ! Unfortunately the American Evita aficionados are shit out of luck with long TSA lines thanks to our idiot President who won't pay them, closes our government and now the TSA workers all call in sick. What a fucking schmuck we elected. I wonder if Shark's security would toss Trump out if he tried to ' grab her by the pussy!Can FRA airport handle all these incoming flights? Or Evite now has a personal landing strip?
Kosher Kowboy
01-05-19, 16:09
Can FRA airport handle all these incoming flights? Or Evite now has a personal landing strip?I am not sure how Evita fights the battle with the razor (or waxing agents) nowadays in this new era in Darmstadt perhaps she is entirely shaved or perhaps she has a landing strip.
As to the FRA airport's ability to handle all these flights they started preparing for it awhile ago given the demand for Evita went all out and are adding not just a landing strip but an entire Terminal that being Terminal 3. It will be the biggest of the three terminals upon completion but that will not be until 2022. Expect long delays for the next three years and change.
Perhaps Merkel like Trump has the ability to build a military grade runway for Evita if she declares a national state of emergency in Germany as Trump is threatening to do here to get the wall built and circumvent Congress.
Horny Harry
01-05-19, 17:37
Perhaps Merkel like Trump has the ability to build a military grade runway for Evita if she declares a national state of emergency in Germany as Trump is threatening to do here to get the wall built and circumvent Congress."Military grade runway" you say? Hahaha, "zee Germans" are still struggling to finish building the "new" Berlin airport. LOL! As I've said many times before, the level of domestic engineering Germany is quite mediocre, and unless you're from a 3rd world country it's really not that impressive. It was very good in the past (1950'-1970's) during the economic boom following WW2, but during the last 20 years or so much of the infrastructure has fallen into disrepair, although the German government continues to collect the "maintenance fees" in the form of sky-high taxation.
As for Evita, I agree with DerAuslander:
Don't understand all the fuss. Is she fucking for free or something?
She's ok looking but not particularly special. Just another hooker.Yes, she is (or perhaps was?) a good looking girl, but when I try to imagine her with dyed blond hair and a few kilos extra then I think I will pass.
I've been with her once about 1,5-2 years ago when she was slim and had dark curly hair and I remember that I felt quite puzzled afterwards because I couldn't cum, which rarely happens to me. It wasn't just her body or her looks or her professionalism, it was more a strange combination of factors. She was nice, but not just nice enough for a GFE. She was sexy, but just not sexy or "porny" enough for a PSE or "optic fuck. " She was spontaneous, but just too professional to make it all seem relaxed and natural. I really missed a certain "sluttyness," a certain "animal instinct," a certain "directness," and a certain "raw sexual attraction," even if it's fake and an illusion.
I dunno, it's weird I know because I definitely admit she is a good looking girl, but we just didn't "click" at all, no spark whatsoever, but I can now fully understand why so many Asians like her. She has a certain kind of "abstractness' about herself that many Asians probably feel very attracted to.
I am not sure how Evita fights the battle with the razor (or waxing agents) nowadays in this new era in Darmstadt perhaps she is entirely shaved or perhaps she has a landing strip.
As to the FRA airport's ability to handle all these flights they started preparing for it awhile ago given the demand for Evita went all out and are adding not just a landing strip but an entire Terminal that being Terminal 3. It will be the biggest of the three terminals upon completion but that will not be until 2022. Expect long delays for the next three years and change.
Perhaps Merkel like Trump has the ability to build a military grade runway for Evita if she declares a national state of emergency in Germany as Trump is threatening to do here to get the wall built and circumvent Congress.
Breaking news from CNN!
FKK Sharks has won the bid to open a branch called Sharks Premium next to the new Terminal 3 (FRA) where every 30 minutes of service will be 200 e and that will include only no-touching no talking couch time. One way talking (customer to WG) will be 200 e extra, 2 way talking another 200 e extra. Touching another 200 e extra but no pussy touching allowed even with any extra. In the room, CBJ another 200 e, CFS another 500 e. Per the 2017 law, no BBBJ or BBFS allowed for any price. Kissing, DATY, cumming (even inside a condom) etc anything which carries slightest chance of contamination by fluids, are also not allowed to support the core intention of the 2017 law. If a customer coughs or sneezes even by mistake, that would be another 1000 e to cover the cost of taking the girl to hospital for appropriate treatment and to resanitize the club. This club will be the cleanest showcase of how an FKK should be under the 2017 law. And very convenient for tourists as well as WGs to just walk over from the T3 terminal and also to stay in the nearby airport hotels. This will stop the anxieties over getting any disease from visiting an FKK, plus no worries about how to get to the old non-premium Darmstadt Sharks from the FRA airport. This club will literally be a class above the rest of the FKKs, full of most beautiful and most service oriented WGs in the world. There will always be a long line of most beautiful girls to work there as they make most money there, and customers will come from all over the world to enjoy time with these highest quality girls in the cleanest safest FKK ever.
Now that Frau Merkel will have more time to focus on women's rights and health, she will be the General Manager of this new Sharks Premium, to lead by example. Queen Evita will cut the ribbon in the red carpet opening ceremony, and the first WG to fuck an Asian for minimum 5000e in the first 30 minutes session following the ribbon cutting event. Management will announce timing of online bids starting at 5000e (open only for passport holders of Asian countries) for this virgin fuck, please keep an eye on this ISG Sharks forum.
Kosher Kowboy
01-05-19, 17:47
How about Sharks open a branch called Sharks Premium next to the new Terminal 3
This club will literally be a class above the rest of the FKKs
the cleanest safest FKK ever.An audit of your pricing as well as fines left one item off. If a condom slips off or breaks and the man cums inside her I would assume a fine would need to be assessed to cover the cost of the morning after pill, a pregnancy test and a possible abortion fee. I am not sure how long after an egg is fertilized inside of a Shark's massive uterus ( am sure most are stretched out like all the other clubs seem to be) how long it would take to show up in a blood test so I think a holding cell (I am sure they already have them) fee would also need to be addressed as the ' cummer' would need to be held w / o bail.
Der Auslander
01-05-19, 18:09
How about Sharks open a branch called Sharks Premium next to the new Terminal 3 where every 30 minutes of service will be 200 e and that will include only no-touching no talking couch time. One way talking (customer to WG) will be 200 e extra, 2 way talking another 200 e extra. Touching another 200 e extra but no pussy touching allowed even with any extra. In the room, CBJ another 200 e, CFS another 500 e. Per the 2017 law, no BBBJ or BBFS allowed for any price. Kissing, DATY, cumming (even inside a condom) etc anything which carries slightest chance of contamination by fluids, are also not allowed to support the core intention of the 2017 law. If a customer coughs or sneezes even by mistake, that would be another 1000 e to cover the cost of taking the girl to hospital for appropriate treatment and to resanitize the club. This club will be the cleanest showcase of how an FKK should be under the 2017 law. And very convenient for tourists as well as WGs to just walk over from the T3 terminal and also to stay in the nearby airport hotels. This will stop the anxieties over getting any disease from visiting an FKK, plus no worries about how to get to the old non-premium Darmstadt Sharks from the FRA airport. This club will literally be a class above the rest of the FKKs, full of most beautiful and most service oriented WGs in the world. There will always be a long line of most beautiful girls to work there as they make most money there, and customers will come from all over the world to enjoy time with these highest quality girls in the cleanest safest FKK ever.Only problem with the above idea is that some guys will object and complain that this pricing is simply not enough and will want to open their wallets wide and hand over even more cash!
And also give a tip!
:D
But are there any reports on the club. Is it packed? Is the ratio decent?
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