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Gino02
01-05-19, 18:59
An audit of your pricing as well as fines left one item off. If a condom slips off or breaks and the man cums inside her I would assume a fine would need to be assessed to cover the cost of the morning after pill, a pregnancy test and a possible abortion fee. I am not sure how long after an egg is fertilized inside of a Shark's massive uterus ( am sure most are stretched out like all the other clubs seem to be) how long it would take to show up in a blood test so I think a holding cell (I am sure they already have them) fee would also need to be addressed as the ' cummer' would need to be held w / o bail.Along with the planning and implementation of the 2017 law, German government Condom Research and Development agency has been working for last 3 years with the London brand to develop a zero-break zero-pleasure condom called Frankfurt Condom. There has been some break through in their research, and looks like a copper-steel combination of flexible condom will be ready before the opening of Sharks Premium. These Frankfurt condoms will have two walls with each having metal reservoirs to hold any customer's cum, so even if one fails, there is a secondary protective wall. Also a Sharks Premium Condom Nazi (management is considering other names as well for this position) will lock the condom before any sexual activity and and unlock when done. So this sex will be with almost zero chance of condom breaking. Still, in case any condom breaks, authorities will do full investigation if it was a product issue (then lawsuit against Franfurt Condoms), or security / negligence issue (then lawsuit against Sharks Premium) or usage issue (then lawsuit against the customer). In the meantime, customer and the WG will be put in jail in solitary confinement until the investigation is over, to be paid by the customer. Besides protecting the health of the WGs, idea is to generate at least one hundred thousand euros for the government coffers per condom break.

Bringing your own condoms to Sharks Premium is not allowed. Securities will check you at entrance, any personal condoms found will be confiscated and your entrance fee will be doubled to 500 e per day.

ExpatLover
01-05-19, 22:17
I wonder as the ' news breaks' (source is legit) how many of her regulars are on the various airline sites looking for flights to Frankfurt; I bet someone (or more) pays the last minute (two weeks out) fares!

I paid $793.46 for a seat in Comfort+ on the aisle on Delta leaving next weekend from Atlanta. Comfort+ is currently sold out and the economy coach fare is $2172.43. I'll sell my seat to any desperate Evita fan looking to get on a flight for $2000, bidding is to be in $100 increments if multiple buyers surface. If you buy my ticket no refunds if the news is not true or if this Evita is an impostor. All sales are final. Cash only.

Pretty cheap for you Evita fans considering some of you pay 500-1000 plus Euros for an appointment.

Good luck to you guys, and good luck to Evita. I wonder how many Evita posts will be uploaded in the next 24 hours. We're already at 2, I did my part! YamaYama did his.

or Stuart has pulled a fast one on us, perhaps January 4 is April Fool's Day in Germany.Sad and laughing at the same time to see that the us who are willing to lead the world need to take and pay a long fight just to fuck a prostitute.

Gino02
01-06-19, 00:11
Only problem with the above idea is that some guys will object and complain that this pricing is simply not enough and will want to open their wallets wide and hand over even more cash!

And also give a tip!

:DAbsolutely! Target market for this joint venture by the Sharks Premium Inc and the German government is Asian Tourists. Paying more than any sort of standard rate is highly encouraged and expected. This will also bring more Asian hunter WGs to this club, which in turn will help both the Romanian and the German economies. Policy makers in both countries are excited to improve lives of so many people in need with this experiment, and seeks whole hearted support and participation from all involved, particularly from the very capable Asian fuckers of the world. If this experiment succeeds, German government may consider issuing an Asian Priviledge card for FKK tourists, which will put such card holders in priority line to meet and get fucked by Queen Evite and her hunter team, much like CLEAR or TSA Pre systems in the US airports.

Chongmal
01-06-19, 09:50
Has anyone seen my sweet Scarlet lately. I'm preparing a trip out of NRW with a friend from Paris and I'm really hoping to meet up with her. She was my one repeat on my last trip and I would like to meet up with her again. When I was there the last time she said she was getting ready to return to Romania and was unsure when she would start working again in Germany.

Sirioja
01-06-19, 13:55
She'll do sexy things by WhatsApp.I think I was the first to tell she is Asians specialist, she didn't like, she sent me some guys, but to be fair to her, many not Asian type also told me they like her. I don t remember, when she thought I wrote this because I don t like her, when it was just facts everybody could see if not staying whole day and night with nose in beer glass, but never heard anybody telling me about disappointment with her, when I was so disappointed with her friend Nina. Ro on April 2015 , tall brunette, real beauty, but my worst FKK room for 6 years, even I left room with Luci. De at Palace and Mady ex History Basel Liestal at Oase without even touching them, running away from upselling and never repeating again, when Luci came 3 times to repeat at GT, when many guys were waiting for her on a Saturday evening. But even Nina was prettier for me, but for sure Evita can t be worst. If so many run after her, she can t be bad. When Sharks had good casting with Megan, Karin, Katalina, Florentina, I just found prettier girls for my eyes. Only subjective tastes of course.

Takedown
01-06-19, 18:54
Don't understand all the fuss. Is she fucking for free or something?Good marketing, specifically social marketing. If you're not on social media or into getting WhatsApp info from WGs, then yeah, you wouldn't get the appeal.

The FKK scene from 2014 onward has offered mongers more than just the time spent in the club. If you're only there for the time in the room plus some beers and conversation with other mongers, then yeah, she wouldn't stand out.

In the past, many guys express that they enjoy the full illusion so they like things like couch time. Since the digital communication experience has become a part of reality, it has also become part of the "couch time" umbrella. Nothing wrong with that, times change.

I'm sure an unnecessary and demeaning insult from some "purist" will soon follow.

Saturn11
01-06-19, 20:11
Has anyone seen my sweet Scarlet lately. I'm preparing a trip out of NRW with a friend from Paris and I'm really hoping to meet up with her. She was my one repeat on my last trip and I would like to meet up with her again. When I was there the last time she said she was getting ready to return to Romania and was unsure when she would start working again in Germany.I was there at the start of December and she told me she'd be back in February but didn't know when in February.

BigBuddy69
01-06-19, 21:06
Do you have any idea if this charming Scarlet will be there at the end of February (maybe beginning of March) ? I really have heard only praises about her and I have a sweet spot for curly hair.

Nick The G
01-06-19, 22:16
The FKK scene from 2014 onward has offered mongers more than just the time spent in the club.2014, was that the time you entered the FKK-club scene? I remember fora about the clubs already from 2002 on. And, with regards to hunting for paysex-related informations, some people seem to like to spent more time in the internet than in the clubs or brothels.


I'm sure an unnecessary and demeaning insult from some "purist" will soon follow.I'm sure you'll get what you deserve in this mind-fucking game, despite trying to block others by sending out ban messages like this one.

Takedown
01-06-19, 22:42
1. 2014, was that the time you entered the FKK-club scene? I remember fora about the clubs already from 2002 on.

2. And, with regards to hunting for paysex-related informations, some people seem to like to spent more time in the internet than in the clubs or brothels.

3. I'm sure you'll get what you deserve in this mind-fucking game, despite trying to block others by sending out ban messages like this one.1. First partyreff in 2008. First FKK in 2009. In 2002 I was still in University.

2. About 50 club visits at over 12 different clubs and 150 rooms in 2018.

3. Right on cue.

P.S. Thanks for publishing the recent line up list in the Sharks thread.

RichCandyMan
01-06-19, 22:48
How Rude,

This week I told one girl (Fabia) I would like to go to the room and she said sure, I told her I have to go to locker and I will come back in 2 minutes, but when I came back she told me she will go with some one else because he will give her 50 euro to cover what I was going to give her. I was kind of surprised, told her good luck and walked away, and later I found that she was bad service any ways. So I must thank other guy for my savings in terms of time, money and grief. But too me this is too rude, once girl commits, she should stick with her commitment. Any thoughts.

Der Auslander
01-06-19, 23:12
Good marketing, specifically social marketing. If you're not on social media or into getting WhatsApp info from WGs, then yeah, you wouldn't get the appeal.You are correct I don't get the appeal and yes I'm aware of Evita's social media and her harem of guys jizzing over themselves to give her compliments in the hope of getting an appointment and feeding her cash. Some guys get off on interacting with their favourite hooker on WhatsApp (or whatever) when she's not in the zimmer fucking some other guy. I prefer to do all my interacting in the club. I can easily give Evita a pass. Not interested in looking at her snaps. There are better looking hookers. Smart girl though I will give her that. Not sure I can say the same about her harem. But to each their own, I guess!

Takedown
01-06-19, 23:32
You are correct I don't get the appeal and yes I'm aware of Evita's social media and her harem of guys jizzing over themselves to give her compliments in the hope of getting an appointment and feeding her cash. Some guys get off on interacting with their favourite hooker on WhatsApp (or whatever) when she's not in the zimmer fucking some other guy. I prefer to do all my interacting in the club. I can easily give Evita a pass. Not interested in looking at her snaps. There are better looking hookers. Smart girl though I will give her that. Not sure I can say the same about her harem. But to each their own, I guess!Yep, I agree with ya. She was never the hottest girl in the club which should say even more about her skills as a working business girl. She really was dedicated to the craft in her communications and memory regarding her clients. That's why when people make fun of her and her fan club, I think to myself that the business would be better off having more girls like her in this industry. In my time at Sharks, only 2 other girls took the time to pre-zimmer interview in a discreet area; Mandy De and Sandra De. She is in good company.

I stopped going with her long before she "quit" but have no qualms admitting that her ability to immerse herself into the job is admirable.

Of her Harem, I think some of them at least have better personalities than the average Sharks girl. Former Yvette and Mila are two of the better personalities in the industry. Original Cosmina always provided solid rooms and Ira is a super classy veteran.

Chongmal
01-06-19, 23:51
2014, was that the time you entered the FKK-club scene? I remember fora about the clubs already from 2002 on. What about the good old days when the building had a sign the simply read "BAR" on the front on had a neon red heart. You went in, they had a couple ladies that would hustle you at darts and they to sucker you into buying drinks. If you struck a deal you went into the booth with a bench and table and pulled the curtain and did the duty. Back then the Frankfurt RLD was one of the tops. The Eros signs lit the streets. Germans and Europeans on the first couple floors, a couple floors of Asians and the top floor was Africans. These were the good days. I remember 50 DM for a 30 m session. Even better was the Repeerbahn when is was a majority blond hair blue eyed Germans. Those who weren't blonds were Germans with other color hair. At that time a session was 30 DM, which was the same price as a glass of Sect at the live sex shows. Oh, back in the days when I still finished in a 30 m session.

Takedown
01-07-19, 05:53
How Rude,

This week I told one girl (Fabia) I would like to go to the room and she said sure, I told her I have to go to locker and I will come back in 2 minutes, but when I came back she told me she will go with some one else because he will give her 50 euro to cover what I was going to give her. I was kind of surprised, told her good luck and walked away, and later I found that she was bad service any ways. So I must thank other guy for my savings in terms of time, money and grief. But too me this is too rude, once girl commits, she should stick with her commitment. Any thoughts.Man,

I've even had a regular do that to me at Samya. At the end of the day, you have to remember that although you have 1 out X diamond-in-the-rough, fantastic women, most of these girls are in their early 20's, no daddy influence, no education (formal or cultural), and grew up surrounded by douchebag dudes who are also all of those aforementioned things.

1 out of 10 of these girls are shit human beings. 4 out of 5 are selfish little brats. Then there are remaining one-to-ten per centers who actually have genuinely interesting personalities, a kind heart, and a good moral compass.

Ortos
01-07-19, 06:23
What about the good old days when the building had a sign the simply read "BAR" on the front on had a neon red heart. You went in, they had a couple ladies that would hustle you at darts and they to sucker you into buying drinks. If you struck a deal you went into the booth with a bench and table and pulled the curtain and did the duty. Back then the Frankfurt RLD was one of the tops. The Eros signs lit the streets. Germans and Europeans on the first couple floors, a couple floors of Asians and the top floor was Africans. These were the good days. I remember 50 DM for a 30 m session. Even better was the Repeerbahn when is was a majority blond hair blue eyed Germans. Those who weren't blonds were Germans with other color hair. At that time a session was 30 DM, which was the same price as a glass of Sect at the live sex shows. Oh, back in the days when I still finished in a 30 m session.Remember "Statdplan fuer Maenner?" Back in the pre-Internet '90's, that was how we used to explore the scenes in individual cities in Germany, sort of like a "treasure map" to erotic city-scapes. Yeah, Herberstrasse at one time was quite nice and doable, so was Palace in the distant past. My first visit to this property it was called "Paradise" so long ago now. I bet even old Nick rememberers that. Hey I pride myself in having fucked in Sauna 2000, Zeil 15 and Sudfass (all in central Frankfurt) whilst still being able to get it up at Sharks today. Now that's longevity...!

Nick The G
01-07-19, 18:40
.... that's how Palace was in the distant past. My first visit to this hotel was long ago called "paradise". I'll bet that even old Nick memories will remind you. Hey, I'm proud to have fucked in Sauna 2000, Zeil 15 and Sudfass (all in downtown Frankfurt), while I'm still with Sharks today. That's longevity ...! I know all these names, but I haven't been to those places in Frankfurt. My first FKK-club visit was the "Atlantis" in Altenstadt.

Nick The G
01-07-19, 19:00
At the end of the day, you have to remember that although you have 1 out X diamond-in-the-rough, fantastic women, most of these girls are in their early 20's, no daddy influence, no education (formal or cultural), and grew up surrounded by douchebag dudes who are also all of those aforementioned things.Most probably true.


1 out of 10 of these girls are shit human beings. 4 out of 5 are selfish little brats. Then there are remaining one-to-ten per centers who actually have genuinely interesting personalities, a kind heart, and a good moral compass.A person with an understanding of the deeper nature of man and with a heart for human beings would say: "they behave or react like", but would surely hesitate to state: "they are so and so".

If you read your posting again, you might realise, that when you refer to bad traits, you use "are". But when you refer to good traits, you use "have". Isn't that interesting?

Takedown
01-07-19, 19:53
Most probably true.

A person with an understanding of the deeper nature of man and with a heart for human beings would say: "they behave or react like", but would surely hesitate to state: "they are so and so".

If you read your posting again, you might realise, that when you refer to bad traits, you use "are". But when you refer to good traits, you use "have". Isn't that interesting?Sorry, you are correct. Let me amend: 1-10% are interesting people, who are moral, and are kind hearted.


2014, was that the time you entered the FKK-club scene? I remember fora about the clubs already from 2002 on. And, with regards to hunting for paysex-related informations, some people seem to like to spent more time in the internet than in the clubs or brothels.Since we're making observations regarding whether an individual is good natured, I will add that one who aims to have civil dialogue would go about it without making false assumptions that serve to denegrate the other. I. e. Assumming that the other person is inexperienced despite over a decade in the scene and the false assumption that forums in 2002 have any resemblance to social media in 2018.

Optimist
01-07-19, 20:44
I know all these names, but I haven't been to those places in Frankfurt. My first FKK-club visit was the "Atlantis" in Altenstadt.That was my first and finest FKK visit. I thought I had gone to paradise. I also thought the girls all liked me when they asked me to do a second session, or use the public bed lol

Gino02
01-07-19, 22:01
That was my first and finest FKK visit. I thought I had gone to paradise. I also thought the girls all liked me when they asked me to do a second session, or use the public bed lolOh my! What memories that public bed next to that warm indoor pool in Atlantis brings back. I also thought I died and entered heaven! Where else can you fuck a German blond supermodel in a luxurious public bed with a view of many other supermodels walking around naked around an indoor pool when it's super cold winter outside. Talking about public beds, even World had such a nice public bed back then. Oase also had two circular beds in kino just few years back. Some things improved over the years, but I think today's kids missed some heavenly FKK mongering experience of excellent services from German and truly international (not just Romanian) girls, and zero upselling. Back then you walk into any FKK first time, the front desk will tell you exact standard rates for each services, and everyone respected those rates. Win-win for everyone in paradise. I still wonder real reason why Atlantis closed down 😞.

Turgid
01-07-19, 23:34
What about the good old days when the building had a sign the simply read "BAR" on the front on had a neon red heart. You went in, they had a couple ladies that would hustle you at darts and they to sucker you into buying drinks. If you struck a deal you went into the booth with a bench and table and pulled the curtain and did the duty. Back then the Frankfurt RLD was one of the tops. The Eros signs lit the streets. Germans and Europeans on the first couple floors, a couple floors of Asians and the top floor was Africans. These were the good days. I remember 50 DM for a 30 m session. Even better was the Repeerbahn when is was a majority blond hair blue eyed Germans. Those who weren't blonds were Germans with other color hair. At that time a session was 30 DM, which was the same price as a glass of Sect at the live sex shows. Oh, back in the days when I still finished in a 30 m session.By all accounts I was wasting my time going to Amsterdam in those days.

ExpatLover
01-07-19, 23:37
That was my first and finest FKK visit. I thought I had gone to paradise. I also thought the girls all liked me when they asked me to do a second session, or use the public bed lolIf now the prostitutes are starting to like you, let us be more realistic they like your money.

Nick The G
01-07-19, 23:56
Since we're making observations regarding whether an individual is good natured, I will add that one who aims to have civil dialogue would go about it without making false assumptions that serve to denegrate the other. I. e. Assumming that the other person is inexperienced despite over a decade in the scene and the false assumption that forums in 2002 have any resemblance to social media in 2018.Completely wrong assumption! Funny how things work.

When I was reading your post, I was wondering why you mentioned 2014, because Facebook went into existence 10 years earlier. About my experience: since 2002 I was using fora to gain information about clubs. But of course those fora had been there earlier too. Nowadays there are mainly photos and videos. And some poor souls that still write in old fashioned fora like this one here.

Nick The G
01-08-19, 00:04
Oh my! What memories that public bed next to that warm indoor pool in Atlantis brings back. I also thought I died and entered heaven! Where else can you fuck a German blond supermodel in a luxurious public bed with a view of many other supermodels walking around naked around an indoor pool when it's super cold winter outside.
Win-win for everyone in paradise. I still wonder real reason why Atlantis closed down 😞.There is only one reason: greed for money.

Takedown
01-08-19, 01:57
Completely wrong assumption! Funny how things work.

When I was reading your post, I was wondering why you mentioned 2014, because Facebook went into existence 10 years earlier. About my experience: since 2002 I was using fora to gain information about clubs. But of course those fora had been there earlier too. Nowadays there are mainly photos and videos. And some poor souls that still write in old fashioned fora like this one here.While facebook and other primordial social media platforms existed since the first 5 years of the 21st century, the nature of their use changed in Europe around 2013-2014 with the popularization of 4 G internet speed and the improvement in phone video camera hardware. Live stories and video chat from your phone became more prevalent. That and the fact that Facebook has become dubbed social media for old people.

Perhaps some benefit of the doubt can be given with your first point but with the rest of that post being venomous it does seem wuite incongruent. At that point, does any intent from the first point really matter? What I notice is that people whose first instinct is to demean and criticize, it usually comes from a place of self loathing.

Lucknow
01-08-19, 02:01
Hi all. Have previously visited the main FKKs in area but has been two years since last visit.

I have a stopover from 10 am to 7 pm. What would be the best FKK to visit?

Appreciate any advice.

Kosher Kowboy
01-08-19, 02:30
By all accounts I was wasting my time going to Amsterdam in those days.You weren't the only one, I took plenty of trips there from the early 90's to the mid 2 K's when I too could have been in Germany. It was good back in the day of the guilder and you could also fuck girls on those boats in Utrecht (sp?) but eventually it turned to garbage.

I guess for a layover it would not be terrible for one night each way but that is it.

Sirioja
01-08-19, 09:57
Hi all. Have previously visited the main FKKs in area but has been two years since last visit.

I have a stopover from 10 am to 7 pm. What would be the best FKK to visit?

Appreciate any advice.I'm not anymore a FRA regular, but I would advice Sharks until 8 pm. Palace where can find more interesting woman types at night. Mainhattan can worth sometimes, on day or night. I enjoyed Maria but never saw her again.

Wish for new beauties for this new year, but girls who leave Sharks, tell about slow business after Summer, 400 € on average per day minus 125 to work and sleep, for a pretty, sophisticated now, little fire in bed. A model type tell about dead business at World. So they leave to find better business. Never read anything about my Sharks top class girl on mid June, who didn't want to work like this and left after 2 weeks, dreaming about Summer escorting in Ibiza.

All girls are not Asians hunter. Even often saw Elen holding the bar.

Takedown
01-08-19, 18:53
Wish for new beauties for this new year, but girls who leave Sharks, tell about slow business after Summer,

All girls are not Asians hunter. Even often saw Elen holding the bar.When I watch a movie a lot of times I often realize that I've memorized all of the lines. I've seen this show a dozen times before. Also with old age comes dementia, and that, forgetfulness that one has already the story to their grandchildren a few dozen times.

Gino02
01-08-19, 21:25
Wish for new beauties for this new year, but girls who leave Sharks, tell about slow business after Summer, 400 on average per day minus 125 to work and sleep, for a pretty, sophisticated now, little fire in bed. A model type tell about dead business at World. So they leave to find better business. Never read anything about my Sharks top class girl on mid June, who didn't want to work like this and left after 2 weeks, dreaming about Summer escorting in Ibiza.

All girls are not Asians hunter. Even often saw Elen holding the bar.So all those attempts of upselling by the greedy girls killed the local customer base at Sharks? I know girls were making 600-1000 e or even more on average per day by doing back to back 50 e for 30 min sessions (and some CIM or anal or both) just 1-2 years back.

Sirioja
01-08-19, 22:05
So all those attempts of upselling by the greedy girls killed the local customer base at Sharks? I know girls were making 600-1000 e or even more on average per day by doing back to back 50 e for 30 min sessions (and some CIM or anal or both) just 1-2 years back.On my last visits, most often on Friday or Saturday evenings, not busy business, probably due now to real lack of beauties at Sharks, quantity but far below 2015/2016 for casting. Only 1 wow girl seen on 2018 and she left after less than 2 weeks.

When I found beauties, I visited at least once every week end, now not more than 5 times a year. But not too much upselling experienced at Sharks for me, just lack of beauties for me, or not kissing Tia. De.

Chris1791
01-08-19, 22:37
Recommendations much appreciated please.

Going to Sharks and any FKK for the first time this week.

What girls can anyone recommend. Night time visit.

Thank you.

Akibono
01-09-19, 03:51
Oh my! What memories that public bed next to that warm indoor pool in Atlantis brings back. I also thought I died and entered heaven! Where else can you fuck a German blond supermodel in a luxurious public bed with a view of many other supermodels walking around naked around an indoor pool when it's super cold winter outside. Talking about public beds, even World had such a nice public bed back then. Oase also had two circular beds in kino just few years back. Some things improved over the years, but I think today's kids missed some heavenly FKK mongering experience of excellent services from German and truly international (not just Romanian) girls, and zero upselling. Back then you walk into any FKK first time, the front desk will tell you exact standard rates for each services, and everyone respected those rates. Win-win for everyone in paradise. I still wonder real reason why Atlantis closed down.Ah the memories of Atlantis. There is no other club like it then or since. I have a business card from the club in mint condition. Would be willing to sell it for the right price. This has got to be very rare.

Optimist
01-09-19, 16:06
Ah the memories of Atlantis. There is no other club like it then or since. I have a business card from the club in mint condition. Would be willing to sell it for the right price. This has got to be very rare.You can have my soul if the card will transport me back through time.

LiveBoarding
01-09-19, 19:49
I don't agree in total with your statement. She is plenty hot enough. But I totally agree that her major asset that really differs her from other girls is her service level.

You can fuck any girl but anyone on this forum at one point mentions some level of chemistry when they have the most pleasure. This girl knows how to act properly in the room. You can take her any way you want and she does it with a smile. The experience I've had with her is that I get more fun than just clock countdown. If you want to just have room, any girl fits the bill at Sharks. Evita sets herself apart by being able to comply what your wishes are. She is so damn good at selling the good experience, no wonder so many of her followers keeps on returning. She fakes it well enough for them to believe it.

Quite glad she is back and I do think everyone needs to get a dose of Evita on their next stop. It's not enough to read about her until you try her. Test drive it guys! She can do it all.

I for sure will be looking forward to the next time. I just hope she didn't gain all that kilos someone was referring to. Anyone can confirm that?


Yep, I agree with ya. She was never the hottest girl in the club which should say even more about her skills as a working business girl. She really was dedicated to the craft in her communications and memory regarding her clients. That's why when people make fun of her and her fan club, I think to myself that the business would be better off having more girls like her in this industry. In my time at Sharks, only 2 other girls took the time to pre-zimmer interview in a discreet area; Mandy De and Sandra De. She is in good company.

I stopped going with her long before she "quit" but have no qualms admitting that her ability to immerse herself into the job is admirable.

Of her Harem, I think some of them at least have better personalities than the average Sharks girl. Former Yvette and Mila are two of the better personalities in the industry. Original Cosmina always provided solid rooms and Ira is a super classy veteran.

LiveBoarding
01-09-19, 19:52
It's your first time there, don't over think it. Just go and enjoy. It is a nice place that even when people say the LU is bad, for a first timer you will never really notice it. There is always things to try on the first time.

I much prefer night time visit than mid-day. There are days more interesting for sure but those days are sometimes too packed. I like the slow nights where the choice are plenty enough but the room are empty. So enjoy your time.


Recommendations much appreciated please.

Going to Sharks and any FKK for the first time this week.

What girls can anyone recommend. Night time visit.

Thank you.

Takedown
01-09-19, 20:12
When you say you don't agree with the statement, are you saying you don't agree with the 3 paragraphs that say wonderful things about her, her business model, and legacy? Or are you stuck on the first sentence that says she's not the hottest girl in the club.

If the latter, that's a subjective belief and all tastes differ. I think she varies from a 7.5 to 8.5 depending on her fitness level at the time. So with some consistent 8's and 9's running around, I stand by my statement that she is not the hottest in the club.

Remember, I never said she wasn't hot, just not the hottest. After all, I was also an Evita fan for a long time.

Anyway, we can say nice things while maintaining some objectivity at the same time. That does require one to not be a complete fanboy though.


I don't agree in total with your statement. She is plenty hot enough. But I totally agree that her major asset that really differs her from other girls is her service level.

You can fuck any girl but anyone on this forum at one point mentions some level of chemistry when they have the most pleasure. This girl knows how to act properly in the room. You can take her any way you want and she does it with a smile. The experience I've had with her is that I get more fun than just clock countdown. If you want to just have room, any girl fits the bill at Sharks. Evita sets herself apart by being able to comply what your wishes are. She is so damn good at selling the good experience, no wonder so many of her followers keeps on returning. She fakes it well enough for them to believe it.

Quite glad she is back and I do think everyone needs to get a dose of Evita on their next stop. It's not enough to read about her until you try her. Test drive it guys! She can do it all.

I for sure will be looking forward to the next time. I just hope she didn't gain all that kilos someone was referring to. Anyone can confirm that?

CoolManFever84
01-09-19, 21:35
A group of 3 guys are planning to visit FKK shark. We will spend all day and night in FKK shark until closing but we need a cheap room to stay nearby for sleep. What accommodation location do you guy recommend nearby by FKK shark?

Also what time does girls change shift in FKK shark?

LaBambaBoy
01-09-19, 23:07
Hit Sharks after a short nap to try and cure my jet-lag, around 8 on Tuesday. Ah Sharks, my favorite place.

But, 2 problems. The lineup in October really is better than the lineup in January, and more importantly, there were just more girls there back then.

Second, guys just flooding in. Just tons and tons of guys. Messe?

Still, lots of eye candy to look at, and the indoor buffet may be better than the outdoor. Ate first, then walked around a couple times, then sat. Some familiar faces (Vorioca, who I saw before, and Clara the Ro with big lips). A number of girls interested me, but the food and short nap was conspiring to send me to sleep. I knew I had but one shot to give, and it would be a short night.

German Clara: tight body, short blonde ponytail, been there a while I believe. Just started randomly talking to her, and was entranced, she was funny and smart and sexy. She was happy to be my one shot of the night; I was too tired to even DATY so I just went the 50 for 30 minimum.

She was fabulous, BBBJ for quite a while, then road me (covered) to completion, then snuggled me tight while we talked. She is really skinny and toned, and very pretty. I tipped her 20 on top of the 50 for 70 euros, and I will make a beeline for her if I see her again; much more is on the table for the right price. A charmer.

By the time I showered, I decided to hang around to see if the sight of the lovelies could coax a 4th go of the day out of me (Dietzenbach thread for 1 &2). It was not to be, some because of me, but more because the number of guys was getting out of hand by 10 pm. Streaming in 6+ at a time, with no new girls, blue robes everywhere you look. I called it a night and headed home to sleep.

Damage: 65+70=135 euro.

Verdict: I've a fave for life with Clara, who is a sweetheart with a very tight pussy and skills for days. Wish I was there tonight!

Canary
01-10-19, 00:23
A group of 3 guys are planning to visit FKK shark. We will spend all day and night in FKK shark until closing but we need a cheap room to stay nearby for sleep. What accommodation location do you guy recommend nearby by FKK shark?

Also what time does girls change shift in FKK shark?I've stayed at The Intercity Hotel which is a one minute walk from the railway station and €10 by taxi to Sharks which is dirt cheap shared among the three of you.

Also stayed at Ibis, cheap & cheerful chain which is again only a €10 taxi fare to Sharks.

Others can tell you in more detail but I don't think there is a specific change over time, girls come and go as they please. Usually fairly busy from 5 to 2 am but every day varies.

ExpatLover
01-10-19, 00:31
A group of 3 guys are planning to visit FKK shark. We will spend all day and night in FKK shark until closing but we need a cheap room to stay nearby for sleep. What accommodation location do you guy recommend nearby by FKK shark?

Also what time does girls change shift in FKK shark?Hotel Comtel or B&B, the girls don t change shift they are free to come and leave when they want.

ExpatLover
01-10-19, 00:32
Hit Sharks after a short nap to try and cure my jet-lag, around 8 on Tuesday. Ah Sharks, my favorite place.

But, 2 problems. The lineup in October really is better than the lineup in January, and more importantly, there were just more girls there back then.

Second, guys just flooding in. Just tons and tons of guys. Messe?

Still, lots of eye candy to look at, and the indoor buffet may be better than the outdoor. Ate first, then walked around a couple times, then sat. Some familiar faces (Vorioca, who I saw before, and Clara the Ro with big lips). A number of girls interested me, but the food and short nap was conspiring to send me to sleep. I knew I had but one shot to give, and it would be a short night.

German Clara: tight body, short blonde ponytail, been there a while I believe. Just started randomly talking to her, and was entranced, she was funny and smart and sexy. She was happy to be my one shot of the night; I was too tired to even DATY so I just went the 50 for 30 minimum.Nothing new poor LU until mid February, means disastrous ratio man to woman.

Dittoow
01-10-19, 04:44
I don't agree in total with your statement. She is plenty hot enough. But I totally agree that her major asset that really differs her from other girls is her service level.

You can fuck any girl but anyone on this forum at one point mentions some level of chemistry when they have the most pleasure. This girl knows how to act properly in the room. You can take her any way you want and she does it with a smile. The experience I've had with her is that I get more fun than just clock countdown. If you want to just have room, any girl fits the bill at Sharks. Evita sets herself apart by being able to comply what your wishes are. She is so damn good at selling the good experience, no wonder so many of her followers keeps on returning. She fakes it well enough for them to believe it.

Quite glad she is back and I do think everyone needs to get a dose of Evita on their next stop. It's not enough to read about her until you try her. Test drive it guys! She can do it all.

I for sure will be looking forward to the next time. I just hope she didn't gain all that kilos someone was referring to. Anyone can confirm that?Interesting. Saw her this Friday and Sunday wasn't really sure it was her but now I guess it was actually her. She did gain little bit of weight but definitely would consider her in the normal range (70-75 kg). First time I saw her was last year or the year before around Dec-Jan (she had black hair) she had a really good vibes but someone guy took her for 6 hours then she left the club right away. I did manage to see her alone this past weekend but she looked extremely tired / uninterested that I doubted it was actually her (she had a huge tiara shaped necklace) . I don't recall seeing her approach anyone she just sat and people kept coming to her without even making eye contact. Assumed she would provide a very mechanical service for 200 E /30 min.

Didn't know she's popular because of her service rather than her looks. I will definitely session with her if I get the chance on my next trip!

Tedesco
01-10-19, 08:45
Wednesday, 9 January. I did another session with Ariella (BG) in the early afternoon. We share the room since 18 months already. She isn't a perfect beauty at all, skinny, natural hanging smaller tits, long brownish hair, herb face. But ahe's a great performer on the room: Kissing no problem, no distance at alll. Tight pussy you can lick and caress with your fingers witout complaining. Fantastic blowjob providing a very good feeling without stroking, she uses her mouth as well as her tongue and doesn't forget your balls to clean that way. As usual we do 69 in lateral position. Fucking in several positions. A 50 Euro session at high level. Passionate and high technical skills.

In the evening I get in talk with Poli, Romanian, 28 yrs, blond full hair with some waves, size 36 (German size), 160 cm max, A cups. Sitting alone at the end of the couch area close to the SM room. Alleged to stay already two years in Sharks doing 4 days per week. Nice chat and as the mirror room on the other side wasn't busy anymore we board it for action.

Kissing no problem (but no chance to get in touch with her tongue). Not very passionate when surfing down from my face in direction to my cock. But her blowjob is great, fantastic in every way she provides me pleasure with her tongue, lips and mouth without rush. You can lick her as well and her pussy is nice. No use of the repared lubricant when penetrating her pussy in missionary style. It makes fun to play with her this way moving my cock. She even pulls my butt with her hands in order to go deeper, but to deep apparently causes some pain. Finally we turn without losing penetration into cowboy position. She likes that and is riding me till the end. Good technical skills but not passionate. Nonetheless to recommend as a safe bet for 50 Euro.

Willyboy
01-10-19, 12:04
A group of 3 guys are planning to visit FKK shark. We will spend all day and night in FKK shark until closing but we need a cheap room to stay nearby for sleep. What accommodation location do you guy recommend nearby by FKK shark?

Also what time does girls change shift in FKK shark?There are not cheap rooms around FKK club. Was staying in Best Western plus hotel for 87 euro (normal is more) end pay 13 euro for taxi to FKK club. Hotel ask 18 euro for breakfast.

If you will sleep cheap. Go not to this club. It is very expensive (65 euro entrace + girls want giving you handjob (10 minutes) for 50 euro. One girl say. I not going out of bar for less than 100 euro.

Nick The G
01-10-19, 12:22
I was surprised to find out, that in contrast to my anticipation, the lineup is great! Yesterday a minimum of 80 girls were there. If this lasts only for a couple of days because of the "Heimtextil" trade fair (8-11 Jan) in Frankfurt, we will see.

Tedesco
01-10-19, 14:47
...…. the lineup is great! Yesterday a minimum of 80 girls were there …. because of the "Heimtextil" trade fair (8-11 Jan) in Frankfurt.....Yes, yesterday I was also surprised concerning the line-up. Really nice to see.

Austin28
01-10-19, 15:29
A group of 3 guys are planning to visit FKK shark. We will spend all day and night in FKK shark until closing but we need a cheap room to stay nearby for sleep. What accommodation location do you guy recommend nearby by FKK shark?

Also what time does girls change shift in FKK shark?I have stayed at Hotel B&B. Basic but decent hotel near main train station. Would recommend it for the value.

Kosher Kowboy
01-10-19, 16:05
Yes, yesterday I was also surprised concerning the line-up. Really nice to see.


I was surprised to find out, that in contrast to my anticipation, the lineup is great! Yesterday a minimum of 80 girls were there. If this lasts only for a couple of days because of the "Heimtextil" trade fair (8-11 Jan) in Frankfurt, we will see.


Wednesday, 9 January. I did another session with Ariella (BG) in the early afternoon. A 50 Euro session at high level. Passionate and high technical skills.

In the evening I get in talk with Poli, Romanian, 28 yrs, blond full hair with some waves, size 36 (German size), 160 cm max, A cups. Sitting alone at the end of the couch area close to the SM room. Alleged to stay already two years in Sharks doing 4 days per week. Nice chat and as the mirror room on the other side wasn't busy anymore we board it for action.
Nonetheless to recommend as a safe bet for 50 Euro.Thanks for the review, just goes to show if one is patient and hunts well there is plenty of action to be had for 50 e if not willing to pay 100 e or more or having to do hours for good service. I still think there is too much doom and gloom about having to pay up at Sharks (and Oase) for a good quality session when in reality there is a girl for every taste and budget in both clubs while up the road in the two city clubs reports of girls breaking from the price alliances (like Republicans breaking from Trump and his racist wall idea) are on the rise. The mafia does no good when the bills come due and 50 e is a lot of money to these girls. (even if we do not think so) . Girls also need to refill the coffers, one doesn't come back from holiday wealthy quite the opposite.

I hope they are here to stay, a positive report on the LU quality / quantity from two locals is most welcome and encouraging. A friend of mine went to Mainhatten two days ago and told me the LU was about full and I am sure this Messe that Nick references was part of it but these girls at least up there had no plans to return home and come back at a later date, here for the long haul.

Jimmy Boy 99
01-10-19, 16:17
Interesting. Saw her this Friday and Sunday wasn't really sure it was her but now I guess it was actually her. She did gain little bit of weight but definitely would consider her in the normal range (70-75 kg). First time I saw her was last year or the year before around Dec-Jan (she had black hair) she had a really good vibes but someone guy took her for 6 hours then she left the club right away. I did manage to see her alone this past weekend but she looked extremely tired / uninterested that I doubted it was actually her (she had a huge tiara shaped necklace) . I don't recall seeing her approach anyone she just sat and people kept coming to her without even making eye contact. Assumed she would provide a very mechanical service for 200 E /30 min. Snip!70-75 kilos? Not fat? Just how tall is she?

ExpatLover
01-10-19, 20:20
70-75 kilos? Not fat? Just how tall is she?Even she is 185 she is fat.

Saturn11
01-10-19, 20:37
Do you have any idea if this charming Scarlet will be there at the end of February (maybe beginning of March) ? I really have heard only praises about her and I have a sweet spot for curly hair.I don't know, sorry but the Scarlet I'm thinking of in Sharks doesn't have curly hair so maybe we are talking about different girls.

Sirioja
01-10-19, 20:53
Interesting. Saw her this Friday and Sunday wasn't really sure it was her but now I guess it was actually her. She did gain little bit of weight but definitely would consider her in the normal range (70-75 kg). First time I saw her was last year or the year before around Dec-Jan (she had black hair) she had a really good vibes but someone guy took her for 6 hours then she left the club right away. I did manage to see her alone this past weekend but she looked extremely tired / uninterested that I doubted it was actually her (she had a huge tiara shaped necklace) . I don't recall seeing her approach anyone she just sat and people kept coming to her without even making eye contact. Assumed she would provide a very mechanical service for 200 E /30 min.

Didn't know she's popular because of her service rather than her looks. I will definitely session with her if I get the chance on my next trip!Are you telling about Evita who is less than 1,70 bare feet? So if You know a bit about women, she would be fat if she was 60 kgs. I think on 2015/2016 she was around 50 kgs. If she was 70/75, she would roll, unless she became super muscular, because muscles weight more than fat which is water.

Shark16
01-10-19, 21:48
I have stayed at Hotel B&B. Basic but decent hotel near main train station. Would recommend it for the value.Yeah, me to. They got places all over Frankfurt (just Google it). From 50 E. Free parking. Free Wifi.

HappyShiva
01-10-19, 23:04
Yeah, me to. They got places all over Frankfurt (just Google it). From 50 E. Free parking. Free Wifi.I am visiting Darmstadt on January 24th until 27th and will be staying in Maritime Hotel, near the train station for 80 E.

Pistons
01-11-19, 01:44
70-75 kilos? Not fat? Just how tall is she?The general fitness rule is:

For guys:

1.70 m tall = 70 kg.

1.80 m tall = 80 kg.

For girls:

1.55 m tall = 45 kg.

1.65 m tall = 55 kg.

So if she has gained just 'a little bit of weight' she is probably 2-3 kg above this scale. I suppose she should be 1. 80 m tall then.

LiveBoarding
01-11-19, 12:47
70-75 Kilos? She has gotten EXTREMLY fat. If she reached that weight, I'm not even sure how she can manage to get customers.

Too bad if she is this fat as it totally destroys old past memories. I guess everyone changes.


Interesting. Saw her this Friday and Sunday wasn't really sure it was her but now I guess it was actually her. She did gain little bit of weight but definitely would consider her in the normal range (70-75 kg). First time I saw her was last year or the year before around Dec-Jan (she had black hair) she had a really good vibes but someone guy took her for 6 hours then she left the club right away. I did manage to see her alone this past weekend but she looked extremely tired / uninterested that I doubted it was actually her (she had a huge tiara shaped necklace) . I don't recall seeing her approach anyone she just sat and people kept coming to her without even making eye contact. Assumed she would provide a very mechanical service for 200 E /30 min.

Didn't know she's popular because of her service rather than her looks. I will definitely session with her if I get the chance on my next trip!

LiveBoarding
01-11-19, 12:49
As a group of three, it should be easy to find a place to sleep. Fifty or so per head should give you a nice flat to stay. Have you checked AirBnB, I remember many in the area.


A group of 3 guys are planning to visit FKK shark. We will spend all day and night in FKK shark until closing but we need a cheap room to stay nearby for sleep. What accommodation location do you guy recommend nearby by FKK shark?

Also what time does girls change shift in FKK shark?

CoolManFever84
01-11-19, 13:17
Thanks. I will look into airbnb option.

Nick The G
01-11-19, 16:29
70-75 Kilos? She has gotten EXTREMLY fat. If she reached that weight, I'm not even sure how she can manage to get customers.

Too bad if she is this fat as it totally destroys old past memories. I guess everyone changes.As if she had never been away, the Asians are queuing as usual. Evita looks much better than me! LOL! So, don't worry, be happy!

Not to be taken too serious: one positive side effect of the girls gaining weight: you pay less per kilo!

Dittoow
01-11-19, 18:28
Ok its official. I suck at weight guessing.

She "looks" like she added 5-7 kg. So if she was 50 kg last year, I guess she's at 53-56 kg right now (no rolls). She's definitely not considered fat, and hopefully you guys will help her lose weight :)

LaBambaBoy
01-11-19, 23:47
Seriously, a banner evening.

Driving back toward Darmstadt from a work trip east, I actually passed FKK Rom, and I debated stopping. Parking lot was very full, and I had had a very nice visit at Sharks earlier this week, and I needed to be at the airport for my hotel. So I regretfully passed it by. At least I experienced Dietz this time.

Slogging into Darmstadt took awhile, but I eventually nabbed the last parking spot at sharks around 6 pm. In, shower, decide to zimmer first, before food.

Natalia: Not a stunner, but a pretty girl, with a banging body. Dark hair, Ro, of course. Good English. She was very smiley, so I decided to break the ice with 100/30 with DATY and BBBJ, as is my custom. There are upsides to a quick trigger, eh? Amusingly, she took me to the S&M room for the zimmer. Her pussy was very tasty, I make it 80%+ she came while I was down there, which got me a big kiss (it is so sexy when girls tongue kiss you when your beard is dripping with their pussy juice! She returned the favor, but it did not take long before her mouth got me close. She jumped on top and, laid down, and I had the wonderful pleasure of coming in her (covered) while my tongue was in her mouth. Delightful. Some funny chit chat, and I was off to the buffet.

About an hour later, fed and roaming, I spy a distinctive lady, very tall, very short blonde hair, perhaps a few extra pounds, but she is just ebullient. Dancing around, talking to everyone, laughing constantly. Aquarium couches. She is having no luck with the dudes sitting there, but I caught her eye and she came over to where I was sitting against the wall with the S&M room.

Bia: Tall, short blonde hair, a sprinkle of tattoos, a few extra pounds, and absolutely irrepressible personality. Romanian. Really good english. She says she often gets mistaken for Polish. Just a lovely face. Same deal, 100 for 30, DATY / BBBJ. We went up to sauna area to one of the little rooms there. This time I am 90% certain she came from my mouth; hard to fake the little muscle quivers in the back of the legs. This time I got a much longer BJ, since my little man takes a while to recharge, but soon enough, she got on top of me. She laid down on me and just pumped her hips amazingly. Meanwhile, she blew in my ear, then we went for DFK. For the second time, I came while in both ends; so nice. A long cuddle chat ensued. She is just a treasure.

At my past a half-century age, I was not sure I had a 3rd shot in me, and it was after 9 pm now. I had gone to my locker to clear out, and then I saw German Lara walk in. Lara, who I mistakenly called Clara in my last review. I forgot about leaving immediately.

Lara: German, fairly tall, very skinny, shortish blonde hair (not in a pony tonight). Full back tattoo. Smart, funny, tight pussy, great English, lovely eyes. I went right up to her, got a kiss, told her what I wanted, same deal as before. Little man was valiantly already trying to rise as I talked to her. She was amenable, and upstairs we went. There followed a simply sublime session.

Started with a quick BBBJ, but then flipped her for DATY. She came twice, nearly crushed my head, every muscle in her toned body was pulsing madly both times. She told me I was the Tonguinator. "You've seen the Terminator? You are the Tonguinator. " Nice to be appreciate. She slipped the cover on, and I went right at her missionary. Lots of eye contact and tongue contact as she thrust up to meet me, and hot damn, and third time! We collapsed next to each other, and then she said she has to have a cigarette. LOL. Good fun conversation, she is a real gem. If she is there next time I am in-country, I will be tempted for a 2-3 hour event.

Overall damage about 300+50 in tips + 65 entry == 415. Worth twice that. Simple awesome.

I staggered out, drained, wishing I was 25 again. Since hotel arrival, I sorta wish I had tried for a 4th, but at the time, give I left my meds at home, 3 all natural seemed to be the promised land.

Generally, it was hopping, as you expect for a Friday night. At 10 pm when I left, girls (and guys) were still streaming in. I saw a few familiar faces, Ada, duck lips Clara (who gives a good session tbh), the two statuesque blondes who are so impressed with how pretty they are, and how nice their boltons are, that they barely acknowledge the guys. Food was good as well.

Man, what a night. Farewell, FKK Land. Truly, it is Candyland. This trip was 2 vashes in Dietz, 5 shots on goal across 2 visits to Sharks. Not a stinker in the bunch.

Member #4632
01-12-19, 09:30
Wow is 100 E for 30 minute really the standard rate now?

For that rate, I could just stay home and call indies for the same price.

Sirioja
01-12-19, 10:19
The general fitness rule is:

For guys:

1.70 m tall = 70 kg.

1.80 m tall = 80 kg.

For girls:

1.55 m tall = 45 kg.

1.65 m tall = 55 kg.

So if she has gained just 'a little bit of weight' she is probably 2-3 kg above this scale. I suppose she should be 1. 80 m tall then.Fit guy is 1,80 75 kgs.

Slim woman is 1,65 50 kgs.

Megan is more than 1,70 and 52 kgs. Kate is 1,68 and 50 kgs with really curvy, sexy ass.

I remember a girl at LR, because I told her to go to eat and gave her bonbons, telling me: because of you, I take weight. Just woman curves for me, super sexy body.

Toto001
01-12-19, 13:29
Hi guys,

Just wanted to ask if any of you lately had some experience with girls asking for regular money to be send to a girl from Sharks in order for her to be able to stay at home in Romania because she just can't stand the job anymore.

I actually had been repeatedly contacted by a girl through whattsapp. She has been at Sharks until recently and beginning of this year went back to Romania.

I did not send any of course. Just wanted to check with others if this is some habit which now also spreads to Sharks. Certainly it had been reported from other clubs before. Romanian girls are quite seductive. Sometimes they ask for some money to be able to fly back to the club after winter holiday and argue that they would work it off after they returned, when in fact they already know they would go to another club in another country anyhow.

Happy to hear your experience.

Turgid
01-12-19, 14:00
.......................... Same deal, 100 for 30, DATY / BBBJ. ........................,..Is 100 Euros for 30 minutes the cost for standard service at Sharks now?

Senex
01-12-19, 14:13
Is 100 Euros for 30 minutes the cost for standard service at Sharks now?Do not let to cheat you.

The girls try more and more.

But it is not standard and we should not accept.

Otherwise it will be standard soon.

Der Auslander
01-12-19, 14:19
Is 100 Euros for 30 minutes the cost for standard service at Sharks now?Price for tourists or for guys who don't want to negotiate and if necessary walk away. Many intercontinental visitors (Japanese / Koreans / North Americans) happy to pay this price because their trips to FKK-Land are infrequent and because the price of pussy is so expensive in their home country. Euro 100 for 30 minutes seems good value to them. Many girls initially look for Euro 100 for 30 minutes but many are still happy to get Euro 100 for 1 hour. In other words if the customer indicates that he will probably stay one hour (all going well) the girl will be happy with Euro 100. Up to him then if he stays the full 60 minutes or stays for just 31 minutes. He pays Euro 100 and is no worse off. Certainly no worse off than the Euro 100 for 30 minute offer. Inevitably the practice will lead to a situation where every 30 minutes is charged at Euro 100 per half hour (i.e. two hours in the zimmer with a hooker will cost Euro 400). Prices will move to similar as Switzerland (4 hours drive south). Just a matter of time and probably not too far away.

Not sure I would be writing reports here bragging about paying this surcharge! But I guess better we hear the truth about what is actually happening in the clubs.

HappyShiva
01-12-19, 16:04
Please confirm if it is true that the new price is 100 E /30 minutes.

Steve 9696
01-12-19, 16:20
Please confirm if it is true that the new price is 100 E /30 minutes.As has been discussed ad nauseum, there is no single price. No matter what you are selling, you will make the most money if you charge the maximum price each particular buyer is willing to pay.

So the girls will fire the max price st the target and if the guy takes it, then off you go. Some guys will take it (and guys who pay a lot for P4 P elsewhere are most likely) or there will be a negotiation.

In a negotiation, if you can't walk then you can't move price much. So if you have narrow tastes and not much time you will pay mor than someone with broader tastes or who is willing to spend a lot of time trying to maximize his 50€.

The advice on trying to gain more time for the same price versus trying to pay less is a good strategy even with narrow tastes and time. Often the girl is after the dollar amount more so than the minutes per se. So this is one lever you have.

HappyShiva
01-12-19, 16:40
As has been discussed ad nauseum, there is no single price. No matter what you are selling, you will make the most money if you charge the maximum price each particular buyer is willing to pay.

So the girls will fire the max price st the target and if the guy takes it, then off you go. Some guys will take it (and guys who pay a lot for P4 P elsewhere are most likely) or there will be a negotiation.

In a negotiation, if you can't walk then you can't move price much. So if you have narrow tastes and not much time you will pay mor than someone with broader tastes or who is willing to spend a lot of time trying to maximize his 50.

The advice on trying to gain more time for the same price versus trying to pay less is a good strategy even with narrow tastes and time. Often the girl is after the dollar amount more so than the minutes per se. So this is one lever you have.Totally understood that the girls who are in demand will try to milk the maximum. Until last year, 50 E /30 and 100 E / HR was pretty standard for DATY, DFK, BBBJ. Now the concern is that after paying 65 E entry and 100 E /30 is standard for most of girls, then the trip to sharks is less lucrative for USA mongers.

Sirioja
01-12-19, 17:20
Price for tourists or for guys who don't want to negotiate and if necessary walk away. Many intercontinental visitors (Japanese / Koreans / North Americans) happy to pay this price because their trips to FKK-Land are infrequent and because the price of pussy is so expensive in their home country. Euro 100 for 30 minutes seems good value to them. Many girls initially look for Euro 100 for 30 minutes but many are still happy to get Euro 100 for 1 hour. In other words if the customer indicates that he will probably stay one hour (all going well) the girl will be happy with Euro 100. Up to him then if he stays the full 60 minutes or stays for just 31 minutes. He pays Euro 100 and is no worse off. Certainly no worse off than the Euro 100 for 30 minute offer. Inevitably the practice will lead to a situation where every 30 minutes is charged at Euro 100 per half hour (i.e. two hours in the zimmer with a hooker will cost Euro 400). Prices will move to similar as Switzerland (4 hours drive south). Just a matter of time and probably not too far away.

Not sure I would be writing reports here bragging about paying this surcharge! But I guess better we hear the truth about what is actually happening in the clubs.Grocery negotiation is just killing desire. On my last visits on week end days, most of girls seemed to have quite slow business, but if they want to become like at Oase when can read sometimes less clients than girls at Oase, and most at Sharks are not on same level for look and level in bed, than in Switzerland.

Nick The G
01-12-19, 17:46
Now the concern is that after paying 65 E entry and 100 E /30 is standard for most of girls, then the trip to sharks is less lucrative for USA mongers.Well, yes. But no need to worry for the girls. The asian mongers will take over, in large numbers!
IMHO, in these days a clear indication for the ongoing weakening of the importance of the former empire called USA. Fore sure on the eurasian continent.

The best strategy is to do what others have already suggested: go for one hour and 100 Euro. If the girl then asks for extra money for kissing or BBBJ, forget about her.

Steve 9696
01-12-19, 18:15
So much of the perception of cost depends on if you are a price per fuck kind of guy or a price per hour of overall experience kind of guy. What I mean by this is that incall / outcall and even the brothel parade format the two are nearly equal. There is very little to experience outside the room. In room time almost equals total time. And if you are there only for in room time then the FKK is only at best a fair value.

There are others (like me) who value the overall experience time. Last FKK I was at I think I had 3. 5 hours of in room time and something like 7 hours of total clock time. When I do the €/ experience-HR calculation FKK is a STILL a great value (Thailand somewhat cheaper) even at monopolies like Artemis.

LiveBoarding
01-12-19, 22:23
There isn't much difference between 50 e and 100 e. If you go to have fun and travel all the way from North America or Asia, you should have budget. I'm sorry for the local that tourist like me are willing to pay the fees but if you ain't got the money you ain't suppose to go to FKK. The girls tend to be more comfortable when you give them that little extra 50 e for the 1 hour time. If she ain't happy about it, totally skip her.

Don't be cheap if you want a good experience. All these girls will give you so much more after you give them what they want in money. Better have 1 great hour experience than two shitty rooms. Quality time is much more enjoyable.


Please confirm if it is true that the new price is 100 E /30 minutes.

Nick The G
01-12-19, 22:43
Hi guys, Just wanted to ask if any of you lately had some experience with girls asking for regular money to be send to a girl from Sharks in order for her to be able to stay at home in Romania because she just can't stand the job anymore. I actually had been repeatedly contacted by a girl through whattsapp. She has been at Sharks until recently and beginning of this year went back to Romania. I did not send any of course.These clubs are full of men and women with great stories and heartbreaking fairytales. Mainly of men who like to signal / tell women that they are successful, but feel lonely and they don't know what to do with their tons of money. And women who like to signal to / tell men that they have problems, kids and families, and do not know what to do because they suffer from ambulant (or permanent lack) of money.

Both are looking for some sort of help with regards to bring money into circulation. And since fate is working as a facilitator, the best place to discuss those topics is a brothel in Germany, of course (could be any brothel in Germany).

Men and women can ask others for whatever they want. That is their good right. But it is our responsibility to decide, if we feel any obligation to respond to the needs of others, and in which form.

In many cases, this one word is sort of instant healing, when outspoken loud and clear: "NO!" The curtain of illusions and love-delusion will be torn apart instantaneously!

Pistons
01-12-19, 22:48
Well, yes. But no need to worry for the girls. The asian mongers will take over, in large numbers!
IMHO, in these days a clear indication for the ongoing weakening of the importance of the former empire called USA. Fore sure on the eurasian continent.

The best strategy is to do what others have already suggested: go for one hour and 100 Euro. If the girl then asks for extra money for kissing or BBBJ, forget about her.Currently yes, but the interest war the fed is waging is bound to cause a financial crisis. Most likely in 2019. Possibly as late as 2020. The front runner of which part of the economy will crumble the most and hardest is the Chinese housing bubble. So lets see where this play will end.

Pistons
01-12-19, 23:05
There isn't much difference between 50 e and 100 e. If you go to have fun and travel all the way from North America or Asia, you should have budget. I'm sorry for the local that tourist like me are willing to pay the fees but if you ain't got the money you ain't suppose to go to FKK. The girls tend to be more comfortable when you give them that little extra 50 e for the 1 hour time. If she ain't happy about it, totally skip her.

Don't be cheap if you want a good experience. All these girls will give you so much more after you give them what they want in money. Better have 1 great hour experience than two shitty rooms. Quality time is much more enjoyable.True, on a budget at 3000 euro, upgrading one session from 50 to 100 is not a big difference. New total sum is 3050 euro.

But that initial 3000 euro budget would already comprise of 1500 euro spent on girls, and 1500 euro spent on flights, accommodations, rental car and club entry costs. So given a base price of 50 e a session, that is 30 times in a room. Say you do this on a 10 day scheduel. At 100 euro a session instead, your new budget is at 4500 euro. Quite a bit for 10 days. Now of course you may be old and have a broken cock. In that case 1,5 sessions in average per day might be fine. So you can cut down your number of sessions to 15 instead of 30, and keep your initial budget. I do 15 session in 4 days sometimes. So for me this would seem crazy. A 4 day trip intercontinentally is something I also wouldn't do. I have done a 5 day trip to Macau once, but then I had won too much on the casino and didn't want to loose the exchange rate changing out of Hong Kong dollar. So the trip was mainly to waste my 27 000 hkd. I got up to 70 000, but then lost 60 000 when the casino operator found me out and cheated on me. So I spent the last 10 k on girls and gave Sheldon adelstein the middle finger!

Gino02
01-12-19, 23:08
There isn't much difference between 50 e and 100 e. If you go to have fun and travel all the way from North America or Asia, you should have budget. I'm sorry for the local that tourist like me are willing to pay the fees but if you ain't got the money you ain't suppose to go to FKK. The girls tend to be more comfortable when you give them that little extra 50 e for the 1 hour time. If she ain't happy about it, totally skip her.

Don't be cheap if you want a good experience. All these girls will give you so much more after you give them what they want in money. Better have 1 great hour experience than two shitty rooms. Quality time is much more enjoyable.In that case, why don't you just stay in your home country instead of fucking up what the German locals built. You and your countrymen already fucked up the pay for sex scenes in your home countries, now you want to screw up someone else's country? Do you even see how selfish stupid and self-destructive that is? Why can't you knuckle heads follow the simple principle of "do in Rome as Romans do"? Is it too difficult? Or just go to Romania with your loads of cash and see how you do without the help of the German FKK system.

BigBuddy69
01-12-19, 23:24
There isn't much difference between 50 e and 100 e.You're right, that's just a 1 to 2 ratio, nothing to brag about. What will you do when your landlord will double your rent, or when the governement will double your taxes?


t if you ain't got the money you ain't suppose to go to FKK. You know, some people have the money for 50 € sessions but not for 100 € sessions.

I really hope that all the big-money-gang stays in Hesse!

Chongmal
01-13-19, 01:03
Overall damage about 300+50 in tips + 65 entry == 415. Worth twice that. Simple awesome.Interesting that you already paid double the rate and say it's easily worth double what you paid. For the service you received, I would have walked out the door at €215. If the ladies didn't agree at that rate I would have walked away to one who did. I stay longer than 30 minutes with some ladies but I never pay more than €50/30 minutes.

For the person who said, if you don't have €100/30 minutes you shouldn't come to the FKK / Sauna Club, I say maybe you should come once or twice a week for a year and learn how to budget.

Steve 9696
01-13-19, 01:07
In that case, why don't you just stay in your home country instead of fucking up what the German locals built. You and your countrymen already fucked up the pay for sex scenes in your home countries, now you want to screw up someone else's country? Do you even see how selfish stupid and self-destructive that is? Why can't you knuckle heads follow the simple principle of "do in Rome as Romans do"? Is it too difficult? Or just go to Romania with your loads of cash and see how you do without the help of the German FKK system.Are you auditioning for Germany's Trump? As in "we don't want — those people — in our country (FKK)". LOL.

Takedown
01-13-19, 01:08
In that case, why don't you just stay in your home country instead of fucking up what the German locals built. You and your countrymen already fucked up the pay for sex scenes in your home countries, now you want to screw up someone else's country? Do you even see how selfish stupid and self-destructive that is? Why can't you knuckle heads follow the simple principle of "do in Rome as Romans do"? Is it too difficult? Or just go to Romania with your loads of cash and see how you do without the help of the German FKK system.To be fair, he's not saying to over pay. He said to make them happy by giving them the 100 e for 1 hour which is what the Germans built. He even said to skip her if she's not happy with that club rate.

No one should ever feel bad or made to feel bad for paying the club rate. And there is no obligation to succumb to the guys who insist that you only do 30 min rooms.

LaBambaBoy
01-13-19, 02:33
LOL. Yes, I paid 100 430 three times on Friday night, but that is not normal for me. Hell, on this trip I paid 40 for 30 AO at Dietz twice, so. Can't say I am not fiscally responsible. And on Tuesday I had a lovely session with Lara at Sharks at the standard 50 for 30 (which included BBBJ, even though I didn't ask for it).

In 2 of the 3 cases last night, I had spent at least 15 minutes up front connecting with the girls; I knew we had chemistry, and that they were interesting to talk too. In that case, going 100 for 30 was calculated to get me a better experience. And it did pay off; I got a fun, sexy session with lots of joking, and fun cuddling after. All three sessions went more than 30 minutes in the room.

In the case of German Lara, I walked up, kissed her on the cheek, and told her I wanted to lick her pussy, 100 for 30. She really turns my crank, and I considered buying a much longer session. Kinda wish I had.

In all three cases, I wanted more than a bang-bang session, something very GFE. In this case, in each case it worked. First time that ever happened for me, usually I screw up and misread at least one girl a night. I gambled I'd get a better session for my money, and it worked out. Sometimes I have gone and done a string of 50 for 30 sessions, just pounding girls, and that can be fun too. Honestly, some of the girls prefer that. Plenty of girls available for 50 for 30, a good number of them will do BBBJ for that price, DATY is harder to find, but still doable.

I guess I am sympathetic if you struggle to put together the money; 50 for 30 is what you have to look for and some of the girls may not go for it. I am not sympathetic if you want a guarantee to get whatever you want (short of anal) from any girl in the club for a guaranteed 50 for 30. If you want to shade the odds, go to a smaller club perhaps? Or tour the RLD, where delight can be had very cheaply indeed, and you get the thrill of the hunt coupled with exercise.

TankTank123
01-13-19, 09:03
Are you auditioning for Germany's Trump? As in "we don't want those people in our country (FKK)". LOL.Don't worry. The Mexicans will pay for the walls to be built around every FKK to keep high-paying Americans and Asians out!

Sirioja
01-13-19, 10:13
In that case, why don't you just stay in your home country instead of fucking up what the German locals built. You and your countrymen already fucked up the pay for sex scenes in your home countries, now you want to screw up someone else's country? Do you even see how selfish stupid and self-destructive that is? Why can't you knuckle heads follow the simple principle of "do in Rome as Romans do"? Is it too difficult? Or just go to Romania with your loads of cash and see how you do without the help of the German FKK system.Germany is really clever about quite well organized and safe, paid sex clubs, but if girls just had German guys business, with many going just to drink or eat or sauna, girls would die from starvation. Just stay at Sharks after midnight and count how many Germans, when more Turkish, Afghans, Arabs, Albanians. Fortunately for girls business, they have tourists, when some girls tell about 400 € made on average per day and have to pay 125 to work and sleep. Real woman type in bed with so lovely behavior, Debi, I m sure one of the highest level at Sharks, not the faintest upselling, but she usually gets quite slow business and she looks like a real woman, not ugly at all.

So I can understand girls welcome tourists, to survive, but they may have different rate. When Asians see a blond, or Americans see a slim without silicon nor tattoo nor botox, they just run, agree to overpay and tip. I met at Globe a french 23 yo guy who overpaid girls because he thought they would remember and return to him, but after he didn't have enough money to go with prettier girls I showed him.

Best tip smart girls think, is to return many times with them.

Horny Harry
01-13-19, 13:06
Same deal, 100 for 30, DATY / BBBJ.
Is 100 Euros for 30 minutes the cost for standard service at Sharks now?LaBambaBoy is a typical tourist, just look at his previous posts. He doesn't care if he helps destroy the whole FKK scene in Germany, he'll just go elsewhere and help destroy it there.

Der Auslander
01-13-19, 14:09
I guess I am sympathetic if you struggle to put together the money; 50 for 30 is what you have to look for and some of the girls may not go for it. I am not sympathetic if you want a guarantee to get whatever you want (short of anal) from any girl in the club for a guaranteed 50 for 30. If you want to shade the odds, go to a smaller club perhaps? Or tour the RLD, where delight can be had very cheaply indeed, and you get the thrill of the hunt coupled with exercise.I'm sorry but what you have just written above makes about as much sense as Donald Trump!

Unfortunately all you have written in your "Price Defense" displays a complete lack of understanding and makes absolutely no sense.

You don't seem to have a clue about why some other members are chastising you on your behavior. Your thirty minutes of slap and tickle in the room with a hooker, whether that is for Euro 50 or Euro 100 is nickle and dime stuff and very basic mongering at that. Some of us will actually spend several hundred euros (maybe a thousand euro or more) on a days visit to an FKK and spend several hours in the room with these girls. We might book a girl for 2 or 3 consecutive hours or perhaps for the whole evening. Consequently the concern is that the price of every half hour will go from Euro 50 to Euro 100 and instead of paying Euro 200 for a two hour session or Euro 300 for a three hour session or Euro 600 if you book two girls for three hours, the cost could double to Euro 400 or Euro 600 or Euro 1,200. Thirty minutes of slap and tickle in the room for Euro 100 is potentially setting a precedent for the price for every half hour, not just for a quickie 30 minute session.

Most (if not all) of the girls you write about would probably have gone with you for Euro 100 for 60 minutes. They were very likely after the Euro amount and the time (30 minutes or 60 minutes) would have been less important. You could probably have booked these girls for the hour (for Euro 100) and left after 31 minutes had you wanted. Consequently you would have avoided setting any bad precedents and would have helped preserve the current German FKK/Sauna Club pricing system for both yourself and your fellow ISG Members.

I don't understand why guys like you don't go to Switzerland (instead of Germany) where the standard of girls in the Swiss FKK clubs is generally speaking much higher. Sure you will be paying Euro 100 (or more) for your 30 minute slap and tickle session but with generally speaking much hotter hookers. You don't seem to mind paying that anyway.

LiveBoarding
01-13-19, 14:40
That's the thing though. You assume that I only do Germany and don't do my local service providers. As a monger, it is good to be able to taste what the world has to offer. Its not that I am ruining the German prices, its that I do offer to pay what the girls needs so both her and me don't go into a shitty situation of upsell. All these sessions that everyone is talking about is because you take on a girl for 30 minutes and of course the girl will try to upsell you everything she got. She needs to maximize her time. She's certainly not there for free.

But if you already set the rule that you'll do 100 e, then there is much less time spend on hassles and negotiating. You just do your thing with a clear mind and she can also have a clear mind that she is able to get what she needs. Both are satisfied and both are able to enjoy the time.

If you cheapen out on the girl most probably she'll cheapen out on your service. Then you are left with only the low level of probability to get a good session. I always get good session, from my perspective at the least, just because I abide to her financial requirements.

Ruining the german market would be more like giving money away as in mega tips or overpaying for nothing.


In that case, why don't you just stay in your home country instead of fucking up what the German locals built. You and your countrymen already fucked up the pay for sex scenes in your home countries, now you want to screw up someone else's country? Do you even see how selfish stupid and self-destructive that is? Why can't you knuckle heads follow the simple principle of "do in Rome as Romans do"? Is it too difficult? Or just go to Romania with your loads of cash and see how you do without the help of the German FKK system.

Der Auslander
01-13-19, 15:12
That's the thing though. You assume that I only do Germany and don't do my local service providers. As a monger, it is good to be able to taste what the world has to offer. Its not that I am ruining the German prices, its that I do offer to pay what the girls needs so both her and me don't go into a shitty situation of upsell.Why not book the girl for extra time as opposed to booking her for just 30 minutes! Give her Euro 100 for one hour or Euro 150 for ninety minutes! Up to you if you don't stay the full time. The girls are after the Euro amount and the time is far less important. Most will readily agree to 60 minutes for Euro 100. I can also guarantee that the hookers wont complain if you book for 60 minutes (for Euro 100) and leave after 31 minutes or book for 90 minutes (for Euro 150) and leave after 61 minutes. By doing this you preserve the German FKK/Sauna Club pricing system as it exists today. Why not preserve the pricing system for yourself, your fellow ISG Members and all the guys in Germany?

Takedown
01-13-19, 15:14
In that case, why don't you just stay in your home country instead of fucking up what the German locals built..
LOL. Yes, I paid 100 4(sic) 30 three times on Friday night,
you ain't got the money you ain't suppose to go to FKK. The girls tend to be more comfortable when you give them that little extra 50 e for the 1 hour time. If she ain't happy about it, totally skip her.Gina and others.

LaBamba is the type of guy you need to be telling to stay home because he is the one who is actively screwing up the system. He's the double payer.

I share Liveboarding's mentality in that it is worth it for me to commit to a one hour room and pay her the 100 e she wants, assuming I get the service I want in that hour. Not for every room but for visits to certain clubs with girls who one hour would be well spent. Cheap charlies can't be angry with that.

In LaBamba's case, he's not even trying to get what he paid for; that is the type of visitor who is ruining the scene.

If paying 100 e, why not offer her the one hour? Why not get a massage to make it an hour? Or have her blow you for a little longer? Or play with her titties for a while. This way, you still get to have a good time at a fair price; the girls gets what she wants; and you both can have it all without pissing everyone off.

Nick The G
01-13-19, 15:16
In the new year, a couple of days ago, I had a conversation with a girl at Sharks. She was there for her first day, but she has been to other clubs before. In the course of that conversation I mentioned that many girls here at Sharks like to go with Asians, they even hunt for the Asians. She said, it is the same in all of the clubs: it is easy work, in the room, the asians cum pretty soon and they are willing to pay a lot of money.

Has often been observed and described already many times: Tourism itself tends to destroy what it pretends to love.

Der Auslander
01-13-19, 15:26
Has often been observed and described already many times: Tourism itself tends to destroy what it pretends to love.Very wise words indeed Nick!

Unfortunately a lot of the guys here who are doing the destroying seem to be big Donald Trump supporters! They don't particularly care about anyone else and they certainly don't make much sense! :D

Again, many thanks for the wise words.

Ortos
01-13-19, 16:36
Don't worry. The Mexicans will pay for the walls to be built around every FKK to keep high-paying Americans and Asians out!Yes, and then the next President, hopefully one that has a brain larger than a walnut, can declare in a loud clear voice: " Tear down that wall!" And then the tired and (sex) hungry hoardes shall once again be free to pour through the FKK Gates to Paradise, tipping and overpaying to their heart's content.

Rocky V
01-13-19, 16:44
Hi guys,

Just wanted to ask if any of you lately had some experience with girls asking for regular money to be send to a girl from Sharks in order for her to be able to stay at home in Romania because she just can't stand the job anymore.

I actually had been repeatedly contacted by a girl through whattsapp. She has been at Sharks until recently and beginning of this year went back to Romania.

I did not send any of course. Just wanted to check with others if this is some habit which now also spreads to Sharks. Certainly it had been reported from other clubs before. Romanian girls are quite seductive. Sometimes they ask for some money to be able to fly back to the club after winter holiday and argue that they would work it off after they returned, when in fact they already know they would go to another club in another country anyhow.I would send a clear and loud "No". One of my regulars at Sharks once asked me for a small amount of money, but I declined and I decided not to see her anymore after that. I believe she is not at Sharks anymore, maybe she's at Palace now, I don't know and I don't care. They may start with small request just to test the waters and then they escalate to bigger amounts. Keep in mind that most of FKK girls are poorly educated and ruthless and they would be on the streets begging if they weren't having sex for money. So, do not ever send money to these girls.

Rock.

Gino02
01-13-19, 19:46
These overpaying fools don't even understand how they are doing something self-destructive by getting into the traps of these equally fool WGs. If they have a little bit gray matter in their brains to just think thrrough why the mongering field is so bad in their home countries both for the customers and the service providers, and why they travel all the way to Germany (or Austria or Switzerland), they would understand why the German (and Austrian and Swiss) system works. It would have been so much nicer if instead of destroying these good systems they travel all the way to take advantage of, they had focused on how to improve the systems in their home countries.

Takedown
01-13-19, 20:09
Can we turn down the hyperbole already? Unless you guys are also criticizing guys who opt for 100 euro for 1 hour, literally only one guy (LaBamba) endorsed overpaying. Despite that fact, a half dozen other guys here got their panties riled up.

Speaking of Trump, Mob mentality and scapegoating like the kind you guys are showing is how people like Trump and Hitler came into power.

Blame the Mexicans! Blame the Jews! Now, blame the Americans and Asians!

What I find a little ironic is that the criticism of sex tourism from some is coming on a board called international sex guide. There are German boards for you proud locals aren't there?


These overpaying fools don't even understand how they are doing something self-destructive by getting into the traps of these equally fool WGs. If they have a little bit gray matter in their brains to just think thrrough why the mongering field is so bad in their home countries both for the customers and the service providers, and why they travel all the way to Germany (or Austria or Switzerland), they would understand why the German (and Austrian and Swiss) system works. It would have been so much nicer if instead of destroying these good systems they travel all the way to take advantage of, they had focused on how to improve the systems in their home countries.

ExpatLover
01-13-19, 20:10
These overpaying fools don't even understand how they are doing something self-destructive by getting into the traps of these equally fool WGs. If they have a little bit gray matter in their brains to just think thrrough why the mongering field is so bad in their home countries both for the customers and the service providers, and why they travel all the way to Germany (or Austria or Switzerland), they would understand why the German (and Austrian and Swiss) system works. It would have been so much nicer if instead of destroying these good systems they travel all the way to take advantage of, they had focused on how to improve the systems in their home countries.It is your opinion but in reality it doesn't work, are you aware of the percentage of free girls, probably around 20%, you can not completely forget that the offer can create the demand which is the case in the mentioned countries. So many guys are spending a lot of money in the clubs, would it not be better that they spend that money with the family or relatives, or simply doing other things than spending day and nights in clubs.

Akibono
01-13-19, 23:06
LOL. Yes, I paid 100 430 three times on Friday night, but that is not normal for me. Hell, on this trip I paid 40 for 30 AO at Dietz twice, so. Can't say I am not fiscally responsible. And on Tuesday I had a lovely session with Lara at Sharks at the standard 50 for 30 (which included BBBJ, even though I didn't ask for it).

In 2 of the 3 cases last night, I had spent at least 15 minutes up front connecting with the girls; I knew we had chemistry, and that they were interesting to talk too. In that case, going 100 for 30 was calculated to get me a better experience. And it did pay off; I got a fun, sexy session with lots of joking, and fun cuddling after. All three sessions went more than 30 minutes in the room.

In the case of German Lara, I walked up, kissed her on the cheek, and told her I wanted to lick her pussy, 100 for 30. She really turns my crank, and I considered buying a much longer session. Kinda wish I had..If you spent over 15 minutes talking outside the room, it is reasonable to pay 100 for 30 minutes. People forget that time talking is time not earning. Some girls will inflate the prices and claim an hour is you spend a lot of time outside the room. However, if you are spending an hour or more with a girl, a few minutes of talk should be gratis. Smart girls know this. An experienced monger will agree to 100 for 30 but say I pay you more for talk time. It keeps the girl happy and maintains the standard pricing.

Der Auslander
01-14-19, 00:23
Can we turn down the hyperbole already?Yes I agree with you. The hyperbole needs to be turned down.


Unless you guys are also criticizing guys who opt for 100 euro for 1 hour, literally only one guy (LaBamba) endorsed overpaying. Despite that fact, a half dozen other guys here got their panties riled up. Speaking of Trump, Mob mentality and scapegoating like the kind you guys are showing is how people like Trump and Hitler came into power. Blame the Mexicans! Blame the Jews! Now, blame the Americans and Asians!But I think you may need to turn down the hyperbole yourself a little bit. And you will also find that some of the negative comments have been made by both Americans and citizens of other English speaking countries. Nobody is criticizing guys who travel to Germany (be they Americans or Asians) unless they behave in a manner which is damaging to their fellow mongers. Some of us want to see good value preserved in the German FKK and Sauna Clubs. As I said many of us will pay for two or three hours in the room with a girl or book her for an entire evening of drinking and fun or even perhaps book two girls for a few hours. This would become prohibitively expensive if each and every 30 minutes is to be charged at Euro 100. The 30 minute in the zimmer for some slap and tickle for Euro 100 is setting a dangerous precedent and its in the interests of both locals and regular visitors not to let this happen by politely informing those not in the know of the correct way to behave. Sort of like telling someone visiting an FKK to sit on their towel in the sauna and not sit bare-assed on the wooden sauna seat. :)

Some guys reading this may be all sorry for the hookers and say they deserve Euro 100 for thirty minutes. Well this is not the Immaculate Sisters of the Poor Mouth Charity Forum for Romanian Hookers. Its the International Sex Guide and a forum for passing on the best information regarding mongering opportunities around the World. That includes letting guys know the best way to behave be they mongering in Thailand, Bali, China or Germany.

You are correct that this should be done in a polite and reasonable manner if possible. I try to do this and to add a little humor when possible.

Steve 9696
01-14-19, 00:44
A couple thoughts on the price thing from a global perspective.

I am going to Globe in a couple weeks widely acknowledged as a top experience. Prices there are set at 124/ halfhour (current exchange rate). As borders are relatively free would not a top girl prefer to work at Globe for 124 than Sharks at 50? So the best girls will work st Globe (seems borne out qualitatively in reviews of both) Does this not lead to the conclusion that by trying to artificially keep prices lower in Germany that the effect will be the quality in German clubs will be lower in a free market?

Japan of course is one of the most xenophobic countries in the world. They have made it explicit that most options are only available to Japanese and there is a significant Gaijin extra charge (for foreigners). This has led to the establishment of services that ONLY serve foreigners and will not serve Japanese.

The best part of the system at Tokyo Hentai Club (a foreigner only club) is they rate the girls silver gold and diamond. If you want to pay less you take a silver. Pay for best experience take a diamond. Makes perfect sense! No expectation that you get a diamond at silver price. (Though often silvers are new so maybe roll the dice and 1 in 10 is silver headed to diamond.

Der Auslander
01-14-19, 01:21
I am going to Globe in a couple weeks widely acknowledged as a top experience. Prices there are set at 124/ half hour (current exchange rate). As borders are relatively free would not a top girl prefer to work at Globe for 124 than Sharks at 50? So the best girls will work st Globe (seems borne out qualitatively in reviews of both) Does this not lead to the conclusion that by trying to artificially keep prices lower in Germany that the effect will be the quality in German clubs will be lower in a free market?Yes indeed FKK Globe (in Zurich) is a top experience but it can have some drawbacks. The best girls are often pre-booked solid by regulars and it can be difficult for tourists to get time in the room. Therefore an irregular visitor may have to settle for second choice girls particularly at weekends (or particularly from Thursday to Saturday).

The Swiss FKK and Sauna Clubs provide the girls with an opportunity to earn some serious money but this is not without some drawbacks. Clubs like FKK Globe operate strict regimes where the girls are expected to work regular hours as opposed to making up their own hours. Also the girls are strictly monitiored for performance and are regularly weighed and measured. Too many complaints or too many hamburgers and the girl can find herself relegated to one of the lesser clubs in the FKK Globe chain.

As to why the higher prices in Switzerland have not reached (yet!) as far as Germany, I'm not as sure about. Perhaps because the cost of living in Switzerland is about double that of the surrounding countries and consequently Swiss citizens are paid a lot more than their neighbors in Germany, France and Austria. There is also a lot of wealth and old money in Switzerland, even more than in Germany. Perhaps this is why FKK / Sauna Club hookers in Switzerland can expect to earn more.

Anyway, hope the FKK Globe trip goes well for you. I expect it will! :)

Steve 9696
01-14-19, 01:26
I forgot to say thanks. I often call the FKK God's gift to man. So yes, thank you to our German friends for the sane approach to legalizing the game and for defining and propagating the FKK format widely considered the best on earth. So thanks!

PS You might find the Japanese ala carte approach interesting/amusing. Go here to see explicit list of add on options and costs. With pictures! The nice thing is you know exactly what you are getting. You literally check boxes on a form when you book the girl. Very Japanese! LOL.

https://hentaitokyo.com/price

Takedown
01-14-19, 02:02
And you will also find that some of the negative comments have been made by both Americans and citizens of other English speaking countries.Oh no doubt. The point was the scapegoating phenomenon in general, something definitely not restricted to locals in Germany.

GuyFromParis
01-14-19, 02:13
Natalia: Not a stunner, but a pretty girl, with a banging body. Dark hair, Ro, of course. Good English. She was very smiley, so I decided to break the ice with 100/30 with DATY and BBBJ, as is my custom. If we speak about the same girl, Natalia is moldavian. The first time I took her in October, it was 50 euros /30 mn, including DATY and BBBJ. And when I stay 1 hour with her, it's 100 euros /60 mn, including of course BBJ, DATY, and some special games. She worked in the past at Stuttgart (FKK Paradise).

TankTank123
01-14-19, 04:59
If we speak about the same girl, Natalia is moldavian. The first time I took her in October, it was 50 euros /30 mn, including DATY and BBBJ. And when I stay 1 hour with her, it's 100 euros /60 mn, including of course BBJ, DATY, and some special games.I too took her last October (only because I had time to kill before an appointment) for 50/30 incl BBBJ. Very good service, but face looks older when seen close-up in the room, and her breath was too smoky for my liking. She has a nice small tight body and seems to have quite a number of regular customers.

ExpatLover
01-14-19, 05:37
Yes indeed FKK Globe (in Zurich) is a top experience but it can have some drawbacks. The best girls are often pre-booked solid by regulars and it can be difficult for tourists to get time in the room. Therefore an irregular visitor may have to settle for second choice girls particularly at weekends (or particularly from Thursday to Saturday).

The Swiss FKK and Sauna Clubs provide the girls with an opportunity to earn some serious money but this is not without some drawbacks. Clubs like FKK Globe operate strict regimes where the girls are expected to work regular hours as opposed to making up their own hours. Also the girls are strictly monitiored for performance and are regularly weighed and measured. Too many complaints or too many hamburgers and the girl can find herself relegated to one of the lesser clubs in the FKK Globe chain.

As to why the higher prices in Switzerland have not reached (yet!) as far as Germany, I'm not as sure about. Perhaps because the cost of living in Switzerland is about double that of the surrounding countries and consequently Swiss citizens are paid a lot more than their neighbors in Germany, France and Austria. There is also a lot of wealth and old money in Switzerland, even more than in Germany. Perhaps this is why FKK / Sauna Club hookers in Switzerland can expect to earn more.

Anyway, hope the FKK Globe trip goes well for you. I expect it will!.Or may it is just illegal to treat the woman like this in Germany, I worked in Switzerland except the mountains it is the worst country I visited, one world hypocrisy suits them perfectly.

Sirioja
01-14-19, 05:41
A couple thoughts on the price thing from a global perspective.

I am going to Globe in a couple weeks widely acknowledged as a top experience. Prices there are set at 124/ halfhour (current exchange rate). As borders are relatively free would not a top girl prefer to work at Globe for 124 than Sharks at 50? So the best girls will work st Globe (seems borne out qualitatively in reviews of both) Does this not lead to the conclusion that by trying to artificially keep prices lower in Germany that the effect will be the quality in German clubs will be lower in a free market?

Japan of course is one of the most xenophobic countries in the world. They have made it explicit that most options are only available to Japanese and there is a significant Gaijin extra charge (for foreigners). This has led to the establishment of services that ONLY serve foreigners and will not serve Japanese.

The best part of the system at Tokyo Hentai Club (a foreigner only club) is they rate the girls silver gold and diamond. If you want to pay less you take a silver. Pay for best experience take a diamond. Makes perfect sense! No expectation that you get a diamond at silver price. (Though often silvers are new so maybe roll the dice and 1 in 10 is silver headed to diamond.First, at Globe You can pay girls in € = 130/30 mn. Also with credit card, with charge 10% .

Only 40/50 girls, less than at Sharks, but some beauties with great level in bed. CIM is 100 , anal 200 when provided.

Less expensive for me than 50 € I don t want to pay for a GND.

Horny Harry
01-14-19, 18:00
The very appropriately named British pop group "10 CC" (the average volume of sperm after an ejaculation) once had an album called "Bloody Tourist."

I think they were onto something. LOL!


I don't understand why guys like you don't go to Switzerland (instead of Germany) where the standard of girls in the Swiss FKK clubs is generally speaking much higher. Sure you will be paying Euro 100 (or more) for your 30 minute slap and tickle session but with generally speaking much hotter hookers. You don't seem to mind paying that anyway.He'll end up paying twice there as well.

All in all, LaBambaBoy's example is unfortunately very typical for the short term thinking of tourists; clueless they come to ISG asking for information, some good people give it to him, and then he'll turn around and stab them in the back by doing the exact opposite.

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McAdonis
01-14-19, 23:28
I am going to Globe in a couple weeks widely acknowledged as a top experience. Prices there are set at 124/ halfhour (current exchange rate). As borders are relatively free would not a top girl prefer to work at Globe for 124 than Sharks at 50? So the best girls will work st Globe (seems borne out qualitatively in reviews of both) Does this not lead to the conclusion that by trying to artificially keep prices lower in Germany that the effect will be the quality in German clubs will be lower in a free market?Many mongers have went to Globe, and returned back to FKK in Germany, without looking back. So either they found optics to be similar to Germany or only marginally better than Germany. In other words, they concluded that you can have a "9" in Germany. Or go to Globe and find a "9.5" and pay double the price. Not to mention pay double the prices for food, lodging, and transportation.

Pistons
01-15-19, 00:02
As to why the higher prices in Switzerland have not reached (yet!) as far as Germany, I'm not as sure about. Perhaps because the cost of living in Switzerland is about double that of the surrounding countries and consequently Swiss citizens are paid a lot more than their neighbors in Germany, France and Austria. There is also a lot of wealth and old money in Switzerland, even more than in Germany. Perhaps this is why FKK / Sauna Club hookers in Switzerland can expect to earn more.Not just old money. Switzerland is a tax heaven for the super rich, and due to banking, the Swizz franc is something like 30% overvalued compared to us dollar. The highest in the world on the new Big Mac index. While the euro is 10% or so undervalued compared to the dollar. But that is just the price of food, which probably drags down the differences due to the close proximity to the euro area. In reality the differences are even higher. But then also the clubs and the girls living there have higher expenses too.

Lastly there is the rule of money in the total pie. Mongering money spent in Switzerland is a total pie most likely constant due to the high starting price. It is not just the 130 e for the half hour, but also for entry and travel. And this total pie is also divided between the amount of girls and clubs too. So in nrw for example, this has a negative effect on prices, while in Berlin it has a positive effect. Then there is the willingness to pay among the mongers at the different locations, and they want to hit the price point where the total money is the largest.

As I assume the FKK clubs are rather bad at analysis, and so are most of the girls, they probably miss the mark in all mongering areas with FKK's. And probably all mongering areas in the world. Maybe Thailand is the closes to hitting equilibrium due to the vastness of the scene there and options. Even though tourists are getting screwed at paying 2 or 3 times the local price.

Takedown
01-15-19, 00:11
All in all, LaBambaBoy's example is unfortunately very typical for the short term thinking of tourists; clueless they come to ISG asking for information, some good people give it to him, and then he'll turn around and stab them in the back by doing the exact opposite.Do you all really think it's that dire and all that prevalent?

If they are approachable I make it a point to converse with starry eyed or lost tourists. With Americans, I don't notice too much overpaying. I see some tipping but nothing crazy, and they do it because they are pressured on the spot when the girls ask. I can't put them at fault as long as the tip is only 10-20 e.

I notice more of the overpaying with the east Asians. And that is because they really don't know better and just pay what the girl asks. That's due to both ignorance and a little bit of culture of public meekness, especially in a foreign land.

So instead of spewing venom (which is appropriate for the likes of LaBamba who is obviously unapologetically fucking shit up,) why not make a small contribution to the beloved scene and inform the east Asian guys on how it's done? I've done that a few times and they were very receptive. Believe me, getting a good deal and bargaining at the marketplace is something very important in the East Asian culture, Japan perhaps being a weird exception to the rest of Asia.

Steve 9696
01-15-19, 04:39
Many mongers have went to Globe, and returned back to FKK in Germany, without looking back. So either they found optics to be similar to Germany or only marginally better than Germany. In other words, they concluded that you can have a "9" in Germany. Or go to Globe and find a "9.5" and pay double the price. Not to mention pay double the prices for food, lodging, and transportation.I admit I've never been disappointed in Germany. I just go where work takes me. At the time I loved World, Oase, Sharks, Palace, Artemis. All have beauties if you look (and I have a darn fine pair of beer goggles!)

I am sure I will love Globe. And will even give Aphrodisia at least one go despite the heart-stopping (for Europe) prices.

Going to give Claudius Caeser a go in Graz, but this may be TOFTT as no one has any Intel on it. I will let you know.

Sirioja
01-15-19, 08:01
Many mongers have went to Globe, and returned back to FKK in Germany, without looking back. So either they found optics to be similar to Germany or only marginally better than Germany. In other words, they concluded that you can have a "9" in Germany. Or go to Globe and find a "9.5" and pay double the price. Not to mention pay double the prices for food, lodging, and transportation.Globe and Zurich are less than 1 hour driving from French or German borders, so only have to pay Swiss motorway pass = 40 CHF for the year.

About looks, must be blind not to see the difference, when castings are so average in Germany at the moment, I would be happy to find a new Megan in Germany. About level in bed, I'm often surprised how girls behave with me, but also in Germany. On my last visit, German superstar stayed with me, having diner, until 9 pm, when we finished shower together at 5.30 pm. Maybe she wished I would repeat like on our discovery on end of September.

Megan is more a sweet girl than a warrior, Aurelia had problems with Sharks management, Isabella had problems with Germans in Hessen, but they work at Globe for many years, and I never heard them telling they want to return to Germany to be fucked for 50.

So many FKK land legends, some many telling without knowing anything. I had great visits at Globe for 375 CHF = 335 €, when on my weekly visits at LR I spent 360 €.

Optimist
01-15-19, 10:44
Globe "widely acknowledged as a top experience". For Globe, substitute World, Oase, Sharks, at varying times in their histories.

Like others here I find it hard to understand following the crowd. The chances are that by the time a place is widely recognised as "top", it has been ruined, often by greedy girls and clueless or intentionally overpaying customers following a trend, as Horny Harry suggests

That's just the way I see it. I do realise that a new visitor has to start somewhere, and that a hyped club may be the simplest way. My first FKK visit was to the most hyped club if the time (mind you, there were only two clubs then as far as I know).

Like Takedown, I always chat to customers about prices, and feel sorry that politeness and / or ignorance can lead to them being exploited by Precious Princesses. But in many clubs the girls do not do this and in all clubs some girls do not do this (see a recent Oase report).

For clarity, I am not talking here about Steve, who is quite reasonably exploring. I am making the general point about trends and pricing, which is relevant to Sharks.In my opinion

As for Germany vs Globe, quite a few girls go to Globe but return to Germany after unhappy experiences in Switzerland. They say they make good money there (but costs are higher) but the working rules were too onerous. Just what a handful of super good looking girls have told me over the years

McAdonis
01-16-19, 00:31
Lastly there is the rule of money in the total pie. Mongering money spent in Switzerland is a total pie most likely constant due to the high starting price.

Most mongers will value shop and probably supplement any Zurich mongering with German expeditions. Exceptions of those that would willing accept the high-starting price of Zurich would be (1) married Swiss mongers who have family commitments, and thus must stay local and (2) extremely wealthy Swiss mongers who value convenience over price.

We do not know the demand curves. At 50 €, a WG may get 10 clients, yielding minimum 500 €. At 120 €, she may only get four clients, yielding minimum 480 €. At higher price points, less "units" are sold. Exception being the Apple iPhone. Most WGs will simply not be able to sell if priced at 120 €, when you can find WGs of comparable quality at 40 percent of the price just a few hours north. There are exceptions of course.

The WG priced cheaper probably experiences less friction, when it comes time for the customer to decide if he wants to extend the room. Extending an additional 30 minutes costs just 50 € in Germany, so most mongers won't think twice about extending time if the WG delivers as promises. In other words, these mongers go into the room with the intention of staying 60 minutes, but end up doing 3 hours. At the higher price point of 120 €, these same mongers might just limit themselves to a maximum of 30 minutes or 60 minutes. Using Siri's below post as a reference, his budget for a cheaper club was 360 €, but when he went to the more expensive Globe, he spent only 335 €. But like, he likes to say quality over quantity.

For those mongers that truly believe that Globe is a vastly superior option, they may just use Globe as an opportunity to splurge for special occasions, but then devote the majority of their mongering expeditions to Germany. This is no different than people who spend 300 € for a dinner at a Michelin-starred restaurant once or twice a year (I. E. Birthday or anniversary), but have a favorite restaurant, where they spend 60 €, once every week.

Long story short, I do not think a WG can just look at the high base starting rate at Zurich as the basis for her decision. It assumes, she will be as "busy" in Zurich as she was in Frankfurt, which is not a guarantee. As others said, expenses need to be taken into consideration. Also stress levels. If someone offered to double my salary, but told me that that my stress level would increase by 25 percent, I would not accept the offer.

Takedown
01-16-19, 00:43
The girl priced cheaper probably experiences less friction, Friction. Yeah, a lot less tread left on those tires after doing so many rooms. Hehe.

McAdonis
01-16-19, 01:06
About looks, must be blind not to see the difference, when castings are so average in Germany at the moment.Full disclosure, I have never mongered in Zurich. But I have spoken to at least 20 mongers who have. Some thought Zurich casting was about the same as Germany. Some thought Zurich casting was only a little bit better than Germany. But majority stated that they have no reason to return to Zurich. I believe that YOU consider the casting in Zurich is much, much, much better than Germany. I am not calling you a liar. But when doing a survey for research, you speak to more than one person.

Even if I had mongered in Zurich before, I would emphasize the conclusions of the consensus, rather than my own, because I think optics and sometimes even service is subjective. Also, I am recognized as regular at several FKK clubs. Sometimes that can motivate a WG to give me better service. Sometimes that can mean a WG dislikes me, and I get shit service. Either way, my experience will be unique. So I think the average experience and the impressions of the other twenty people is more valuable than my own.

Of course, I do know Megan and Aurelia from their Sharks days. I never sessioned either, though I considered them a few times, simply because the price was only 50 €. At the higher price of Globe, I have zero interest. Megan and Aurelia were not the busiest when they were at Sharks. Did they improve both their looks and service after they went to Globe?

Gino02
01-16-19, 01:54
Full disclosure, I have never mongered in Zurich. But I have spoken to at least 20 mongers who have. Some thought Zurich casting was about the same as Germany. Some thought Zurich casting was only a little bit better than Germany. But majority stated that they have no reason to return to Zurich. I believe that YOU consider the casting in Zurich is much, much, much better than Germany. I am not calling you a liar. But when doing a survey for research, you speak to more than one person.

Even if I had mongered in Zurich before, I would emphasize the conclusions of the consensus, rather than my own, because I think optics and sometimes even service is subjective. Also, I am recognized as regular at several FKK clubs. Sometimes that can motivate a WG to give me better service. Sometimes that can mean a WG dislikes me, and I get shit service. Either way, my experience will be unique. So I think the average experience and the impressions of the other twenty people is more valuable than my own.

Of course, I do know Megan and Aurelia from their Sharks days. I never sessioned either, though I considered them a few times, simply because the price was only 50 . At the higher price of Globe, I have zero interest. Megan and Aurelia were not the busiest when they were at Sharks. Did they improve both their looks and service after they went to Globe?I agree with Siri on the quality of Globe much much better than Sharks, as of my trip in early December 2018. I spent a whole Wednesday starting about noon till 4 am in Sharks with 1200e in my locker to spend, but didn't see any girl I would fuck even if she paid me, they were all so GND without real beauties! Then I drove to Globe, and bingo, I landed in heaven full of at least 20 beautiful girls to my liking of optics, service and behaviour of the girls, zero upselling. Except for one shitty session with Megan, Globe was way better for me for rest of the 4 sessions. Sharks didn't even have any chance to compete with all those 100+ GND girls they had. For those who remember Atlantis in Altenstadt, I think we can say Globe is the new Atlantis, obviously 2. 4 times expensive being in Switzerland.

Auerila improved significantly in my experience. And you can now fuck her in public anywhere in the club, including right at the main bar area, if that's your thing. She definitely enjoys all the attention of the public sex LOL. I would not touch Megan again, even with a 10 feet pole, she's that bad in my experience.

ExpatLover
01-16-19, 04:17
I agree with Siri on the quality of Globe much much better than Sharks, as of my trip in early December 2018. I spent a whole Wednesday starting about noon till 4 am in Sharks with 1200e in my locker to spend, but didn't see any girl I would fuck even if she paid me, they were all so GND without real beauties! Then I drove to Globe, and bingo, I landed in heaven full of at least 20 beautiful girls to my liking of optics, service and behaviour of the girls, zero upselling. Except for one shitty session with Megan, Globe was way better for me for rest of the 4 sessions. Sharks didn't even have any chance to compete with all those 100+ GND girls they had. For those who remember Atlantis in Altenstadt, I think we can say Globe is the new Atlantis, obviously 2. 4 times expensive being in Switzerland.

Auerila improved significantly in my experience. And you can now fuck her in public anywhere in the club, including right at the main bar area, if that's your thing. She definitely enjoys all the attention of the public sex LOL. I would not touch Megan again, even with a 10 feet pole, she's that bad in my experience.I agree with you about Shark LU for high demanding guys some days in summer when you can really see the girls under the sun shine I also left the club without any session just 0 beautiful girl, many girls have skin issues, silicon, botox, no real natural beauty only, fake one. Nut this is true is all the clubs in Germany, very few fresh and young girls are entering the scene.

Chongmal
01-16-19, 11:06
I agree with Siri on the quality of Globe much much better than Sharks, as of my trip in early December 2018. I spent a whole Wednesday starting about noon till 4 am in Sharks with 1200e in my locker to spend, but didn't see any girl I would fuck even if she paid me, they were all so GNDReally, even I they paid you? I was at Sharks in October and had a different experience. There were so many GND, I and the Traditional meaning of the term in accordance with intention of Gallery magazine or the definition in Dictioary dot com, "The girl next door is a term used to describe a female archetype and fashion aesthetic which can range in terms of personal definition, but usually denotes a girl or woman who appeals to traditional or "all-American" gender norms with the allure of purity, simplicity, and charm, with a natural, modest, or effortless beauty".

Sirioja
01-16-19, 13:44
I agree with Siri on the quality of Globe much much better than Sharks, as of my trip in early December 2018. I spent a whole Wednesday starting about noon till 4 am in Sharks with 1200e in my locker to spend, but didn't see any girl I would fuck even if she paid me, they were all so GND without real beauties! Then I drove to Globe, and bingo, I landed in heaven full of at least 20 beautiful girls to my liking of optics, service and behaviour of the girls, zero upselling. Except for one shitty session with Megan, Globe was way better for me for rest of the 4 sessions. Sharks didn't even have any chance to compete with all those 100+ GND girls they had. For those who remember Atlantis in Altenstadt, I think we can say Globe is the new Atlantis, obviously 2. 4 times expensive being in Switzerland.

Auerila improved significantly in my experience. And you can now fuck her in public anywhere in the club, including right at the main bar area, if that's your thing. She definitely enjoys all the attention of the public sex LOL. I would not touch Megan again, even with a 10 feet pole, she's that bad in my experience.Sad report about Sharks, for a Wednesday which is one of the best casting day with Friday and I was on Friday 30 November, thinking girls want to make money for Christmas at this time, so full casting. I didn't have 1200 €, I don't even spend this at Globe and I won't spend for my Aphrodisia discovery where 1 hour is 450 €, but had unfortunately same disappointing experience: only Tia woke me up, but her no kissing killed my desire, no other spark despite smiling Leoni or lovely Cleo or Debi, so I moved to Palace for a magic Venezuelan night on Globe rate, but I prefer to pay more expensive for higher quality and I didn't regret my money with her, when I don't want to pay 50 for GND I would not go with for free in real life.

Ragna
01-16-19, 20:17
Wow, crazy how some people are just praising Globe as the best etc.

I am from Zurich and a regular in Globe for many years. Honestly, those who are saying that Globe is like ascending to heaven: got to love the stuff you take.

Globe has much less girls and because of that they look out for more beauties. Despite that, I usually only see about 3-6 girls which I would like to spend time with it in Globe. In Sharks, they got tons of girls and more varieties and still, I usually also find about 3-6 girls I would spend time with. Globe has also more than enough so called GND and more than enough girls with silicone. The only two things that Globe usually differs to other clubs are (1) higher price and (2) a minimum standard of service you can expect. But the minimum standard isn't going to guarantee that you will like it or not. In Sharks or other clubs you can find plenty of girls who give you same service as in Globe for much less money.

I rather waste 50€ in Sharks than 140. - Swiss Francs in Globe. Just because you pay more in Globe doesn't mean you get better service than somewhere else. Megan is a good example: same service in Sharks for 50€ and same service in Globe for 140. -, there is no difference to her service in Sharks and Globe.

Personally, I prefer Sharks more than Globe because I can try more different girls and spend more time with them if I like the girl due lower price.

Hope that self-driving cars will soon become a standard. Then I can put my car on autodrive to Darmstadt - 4 hours drive for each way is really tedious.

Sirioja
01-16-19, 22:59
Wow, crazy how some people are just praising Globe as the best etc.

I am from Zurich and a regular in Globe for many years. Honestly, those who are saying that Globe is like ascending to heaven: got to love the stuff you take.

Globe has much less girls and because of that they look out for more beauties. Despite that, I usually only see about 3-6 girls which I would like to spend time with it in Globe. In Sharks, they got tons of girls and more varieties and still, I usually also find about 3-6 girls I would spend time with. Globe has also more than enough so called GND and more than enough girls with silicone. The only two things that Globe usually differs to other clubs are (1) higher price and (2) a minimum standard of service you can expect. But the minimum standard isn't going to guarantee that you will like it or not. In Sharks or other clubs you can find plenty of girls who give you same service as in Globe for much less money.

I rather waste 50 in Sharks than 140. - Swiss Francs in Globe. Just because you pay more in Globe doesn't mean you get better service than somewhere else. Megan is a good example: same service in Sharks for 50 and same service in Globe for 140. -, there is no difference to her service in Sharks and Globe.

Personally, I prefer Sharks more than Globe because I can try more different girls and spend more time with them if I like the girl due lower price.

Hope that self-driving cars will soon become a standard. Then I can put my car on autodrive to Darmstadt - 4 hours drive for each way is really tedious.Did you find a elegant Kate, or a angel face Joana, at Sharks? No silicon, no tattoo, and I prefer to enjoy for 260 € than wasting 50 €, but each one own tastes of course, but I agree not all girls don't worth the rate at Globe.

Sirioja
01-16-19, 23:28
Really, even I they paid you? I was at Sharks in October and had a different experience. There were so many GND, I and the Traditional meaning of the term in accordance with intention of Gallery magazine or the definition in Dictioary dot com, "The girl next door is a term used to describe a female archetype and fashion aesthetic which can range in terms of personal definition, but usually denotes a girl or woman who appeals to traditional or "all-American" gender norms with the allure of purity, simplicity, and charm, with a natural, modest, or effortless beauty".Sorry if I changed the original American meaning for Playboy playmates as the girl next door, but I don't see many playmates looks in brothels, for sure I would pay for. Even at Globe, I see many girls I don't desire, I would not desire in real life, and I don't want to pay for and would not even be interested for free, but at least at Globe, I most often find a girl I desire, and level in bed is on average higher than in Germany, when on my last visit on a Friday until 9 pm, I left Sharks where I couldn't find a girl I desire, even Debi and Cleo ex Globe, were lovely.

My own meaning for GND is average look, and I don't pay for this. At the moment, I really miss in Germany, pretty faces, elegance and charm, when I find a few at Globe.

Each one own subjective tastes of course.

Mac, in FKK land, I only believe what I see with my eyes, not stories I hear about, but I agree Globe rate don 't worth for stockings, but it worth for pretty face, elegance and feeling she loves you like a GF in bed, most often even under shower together after you paid. Had 6h30 for 550 € with the German superstar, including diner, not so expensive compare to Germany, and I always enjoy what girls give me for free.

PayForIt
01-17-19, 01:01
Full disclosure, I have never mongered in Zurich. But I have spoken to at least 20 mongers who have. Some thought Zurich casting was about the same as Germany. Some thought Zurich casting was only a little bit better than Germany. But majority stated that they have no reason to return to Zurich. I decided I just had to try Globe last year. Alas I went on a night when it is voyeur night and guys can watch people have sex. And many wanted to. Until 9 pm when the rooms were no longer public sex. Here is my two cents. The line up is smaller than in German clubs but the overall quality is higher. Bear in mind I only did this once. The club is not special at all. Indeed not up to the standard of some German clubs. But what is absolutely clear is that for the much higher price the level of service is very significantly higher in Globe as Siri correctly reports. Zero upwelling for BBBJ and other services and the girls are very very keen to ensure you are 100% satisfied. I would return.

ExpatLover
01-17-19, 02:36
Wow, crazy how some people are just praising Globe as the best etc.

I am from Zurich and a regular in Globe for many years. Honestly, those who are saying that Globe is like ascending to heaven: got to love the stuff you take.

Globe has much less girls and because of that they look out for more beauties. Despite that, I usually only see about 3-6 girls which I would like to spend time with it in Globe. In Sharks, they got tons of girls and more varieties and still, I usually also find about 3-6 girls I would spend time with. Globe has also more than enough so called GND and more than enough girls with silicone. The only two things that Globe usually differs to other clubs are (1) higher price and (2) a minimum standard of service you can expect. But the minimum standard isn't going to guarantee that you will like it or not. In Sharks or other clubs you can find plenty of girls who give you same service as in Globe for much less money..Online with you what matters is the size of the LU, the more girls the more chance for me to find what I am looking for a fresh and young girl with natural beauty, usually there is not his type of girl in Palace, Artemis, have sometimes some in Shark, Oase or Samya but very hard to find in the last 2 years. Fortunately possible to find in escort agency or even easier with dating apps which was a surprise for me. I am afraid that with the strong economical development from the east part of Europe less and less girls will enter the job, on top of that the new law creates some stress on the girls.

Sirioja
01-17-19, 06:32
I decided I just had to try Globe last year. Alas I went on a night when it is voyeur night and guys can watch people have sex. And many wanted to. Until 9 pm when the rooms were no longer public sex. Here is my two cents. The line up is smaller than in German clubs but the overall quality is higher. Bear in mind I only did this once. The club is not special at all. Indeed not up to the standard of some German clubs. But what is absolutely clear is that for the much higher price the level of service is very significantly higher in Globe as Siri correctly reports. Zero upwelling for BBBJ and other services and the girls are very very keen to ensure you are 100% satisfied. I would return.Voyeurs and public sex Tuesdays have small casting, some girls try to avoid. Not more than 55 girls from Thursday to Saturday which are best casting days, versus maybe sometimes 100 at Sharks and 60 at Oase, but not important for me because I won t fuck 10 girls on my day, I m only interested by the prettiest, and for a guy who loves women with elegant look, real body care, versus girls coming from deep country, walking on high heels for first time, look, eyes can smile at Globe when they cried from lack of elegant beauty on my last Sharks and Oase visits and of course I would prefer to pay only 100 to enjoy a beauty, when I find a spark top girl in Germany, I don t go to Globe, except for ski.

About girls level, for sure no upselling at Globe, girls would have big problem, for sure DFK and BBBJ and full time are very standard, but the most important for me is my girls behavior, not only in the room for high level but also outside, when busy superstars Kate, not Kate GT, or now Joana, my spark Romanian on whole Summer, behave when they see me.

Unfortunately, really bad point for me is to see them in public sex, but I really did appreciate Kate stopping with her client when she saw me, and also what Megan came to tell me.

I would say Globe worth for guys who love women, no need to go just to have sex, can have cheap sex to empty balls for 50 in Germany, but not what I look for and need. I prefer to pay for dreams.

Tedesco
01-17-19, 07:41
Sorry guys, but I scrolled through the last two pages of this thread realizing that only a short report concerning Natalie from Moldova was referring to Sharks, whereas the other discussion is full with keywords like Globe, Switzerland e.g., thus giving no further useful information on Sharks. In comparison to the thread for travel announcements there the hint to avaoid further discussions is respected, the Sharks thread however is on the way to degenerate into a coffehouse talk being overwhelmed with useless but no advanced content on this club.

Tedesco
01-17-19, 07:55
Yesterday Dea, Romania, 29 yrs, 1m65, A boobs and belonging to Sharks' line-up since four years confirmed (not only to me but also towards other punters) to finish her career as a WG till the end of February returning to Romania. OK, we often argue that this kind of decision is only of short- or perhaps mid-term character as several of them reappear after a certain period, but in her case it seems a final decision. By the way, the time on room shared with her was pleasant but standard and far away from fireworks.

Tedesco
01-17-19, 08:23
Iris (Romania), GND, 24 years, size 36, A-B boobs is easy to recognize with her short blonde peroxide tanned hair wearing nerd glasses making her face a serious one. Taking them off in the room however she looks cute like an unblamable school girl. In July last year we shared our first room and in the following months I was astonished as she always greeted me or even gave me a hug remembering my name but I didn't had a room meanwhile with her. Since November we got another three sessions (even a 60 minutes one without prior announcement) and I'm always really happy to stay with her. No rush, intensive cuddling and kissing, a blowjob full of variety and passion. She is really open-minded and you can play with her body, DATY e. g before enjoying sex with this open-hearted young woman providing a great time together.

WYSIWYG - not at all, as you get much more compared to what you may expect seeing her sitting at the bar.

ExpatLover
01-17-19, 08:35
Yesterday Dea, Romania, 29 yrs, 1m65, A boobs and belonging to Sharks' line-up since four years confirmed (not only to me but also towards other punters) to finish her career as a WG till the end of February returning to Romania. OK, we often argue that this kind of decision is only of short- or perhaps mid-term character as several of them reappear after a certain period, but in her case it seems a final decision. By the way, the time on room shared with her was pleasant but standard and far away from fireworks.Never believe what a girl is saying even she is sincere probably she has a BF or is married and the problems start from there. After 4 years in Shark what has she learned, sucking and fucking, difficult to find a job with this.

Nick The G
01-17-19, 10:56
Sorry guys, but I scrolled through the last two pages of this thread realizing that only a short report concerning Natalie from Moldova was referring to Sharks, whereas the other discussion is full with keywords like Globe, Switzerland e.g., thus giving no further useful information on Sharks. In comparison to the thread for travel announcements there the hint to avaoid further discussions is respected, the Sharks thread however is on the way to degenerate into a coffehouse talk being overwhelmed with useless but no advanced content on this club.Thank you very much for that comment!

By the way, yesterday again a surprising high number of girls present (for this time of year)! More than 90 girls!

Carpe Viam
01-17-19, 11:32
Yes, it was really meaningless from two pages comparing between 1* restaurant and 3* restaurant in the point of vue only the beauty of girls (dishs). This discussion was also fired by a guy who had a problem with the boss of Sharks, so it wasn't really objective. I'm glad the thread become normal from now.


Sorry guys, but I scrolled through the last two pages of this thread realizing that only a short report concerning Natalie from Moldova was referring to Sharks, whereas the other discussion is full with keywords like Globe, Switzerland e.g., thus giving no further useful information on Sharks. In comparison to the thread for travel announcements there the hint to avaoid further discussions is respected, the Sharks thread however is on the way to degenerate into a coffehouse talk being overwhelmed with useless but no advanced content on this club.

Turgid
01-17-19, 17:06
I decided I just had to try Globe last year. Alas I went on a night when it is voyeur night and guys can watch people have sex. And many wanted to. Until 9 pm when the rooms were no longer public sex. Here is my two cents. The line up is smaller than in German clubs but the overall quality is higher. Bear in mind I only did this once. The club is not special at all. Indeed not up to the standard of some German clubs. But what is absolutely clear is that for the much higher price the level of service is very significantly higher in Globe as Siri correctly reports. Zero upwelling for BBBJ and other services and the girls are very very keen to ensure you are 100% satisfied. I would return.Thanks for this. Its good to know what other clubs are like in comparison to Sharks. It helps a punter to decide on which clubs to patronize.

Ragna
01-17-19, 18:34
Did you find a elegant Kate, or a angel face Joana, at Sharks? No silicon, no tattoo, and I prefer to enjoy for 260 than wasting 50 , but each one own tastes of course, but I agree not all girls don't worth the rate at Globe.My last comment regarding comparison Sharks vs. Globe.

Kate, started working in Worlds and even a short time in Sharks. Aurelia and also Megan started in Sharks before moving to Globe. So, plenty of girls like them available in German clubs and offering same service. And there is still Evita, but as you said, each one has his own taste.

I just don't agree if someone says Globe is best in quality and therefore the higher price is reasonable. I enjoyed lots of good times in German clubs, especially Sharks with Evita, Lavinia, Betty, Catalina who offer services as good as Globe for lower price.

Toto001
01-17-19, 21:23
Hi everybody,

I was at Sharks yesterday and had a very nice session with Brenda again. Really girl friend like and highly recommended.

Her tight body with the mega large natural tits is incredible and perhaps even better now after she had lost a couple of pounds last year.

On another note. I recognized a new Romanian girl (woman), who is quite an appearance but also makes the impression to have quite some attitude. She seems tall (probably over 170 without shoes) long black hair. Age may be something like 28-32. Beautiful face (this is a 10). Beautiful body (also a 10). The only downside seems to be a ruined tit job with nipples facing down. I did not talk to her and have not been to the room with her. So I can not say anything bad. Its just that she is exceptional beautiful and at the same time seems a little affectionate and in my view from her behavior screaming for attention. At the same time its not possible to even get eye contact).

She was standing at the front end of the bar, next to the entrance to the buffet. She danced at the pole yesterday. I did not see her with a client during the 4 -5 hrs that I stayed at Sharks.

Does anybody know who she is and perhaps has any experience with her?

YamaYama0519
01-17-19, 22:39
... Sharks with Evita, Lavinia, Betty, Catalina who offer services as good as Globe for lower price.Those are my favorites too, in addition to Yra, Ester, Jazz, Kelly, Ivy, Vanessa and MaiLing.

ExpatLover
01-18-19, 06:56
Hi everybody,

I was at Sharks yesterday and had a very nice session with Brenda again. Really girl friend like and highly recommended.

Her tight body with the mega large natural tits is incredible and perhaps even better now after she had lost a couple of pounds last year.

On another note. I recognized a new Romanian girl (woman), who is quite an appearance but also makes the impression to have quite some attitude. She seems tall (probably over 170 without shoes) long black hair. Age may be something like 28-32. Beautiful face (this is a 10). Beautiful body (also a 10). The only downside seems to be a ruined tit job with nipples facing down. I did not talk to her and have not been to the room with her. So I can not say anything bad. Its just that she is exceptional beautiful and at the same time seems a little affectionate and in my view from her behavior screaming for attention. At the same time its not possible to even get eye contact).

She was standing at the front end of the bar, next to the entrance to the buffet. She danced at the pole yesterday. I did not see her with a client during the 4 -5 hrs that I stayed at Sharks.

Does anybody know who she is and perhaps has any experience with her?Why you did not go to her if she is in Shark it is to get fucked for money nothing else.

Nick The G
01-18-19, 17:17
I did not talk to her and have not been to the room with her. ...... Its just that she is exceptional beautiful and at the same time seems a little affectionate and in my view from her behavior screaming for attention. As it seems with regards to you she succeeded!


At the same time its not possible to even get eye contact.Maybe she is short-sighted, we never know. Better to move much closer to her next time.


She was standing at the front end of the bar, next to the entrance to the buffet. She danced at the pole yesterday. I did not see her with a client during the 4 -5 hrs that I stayed at Sharks.Yes, I noticed her too (on Wednesday). Her dancing was rather simple, just moving her butt around the pole. Neither expressive nor impressive. I got bored pretty soon watching her and forgot about her.

So I too don't know her name.

Gino02
01-18-19, 17:53
My last comment regarding comparison Sharks vs. Globe.

Kate, started working in Worlds and even a short time in Sharks. Aurelia and also Megan started in Sharks before moving to Globe. So, plenty of girls like them available in German clubs and offering same service. And there is still Evita, but as you said, each one has his own taste.

I just don't agree if someone says Globe is best in quality and therefore the higher price is reasonable. I enjoyed lots of good times in German clubs, especially Sharks with Evita, Lavinia, Betty, Catalina who offer services as good as Globe for lower price.I think you are missing the point. Both Siri and I are saying that currently Globe has much much better quality girls (in our eyes and experiences) than Sharks currently. In the past (from 2015 to early 2017), Sharks used to have at least 10 or 15 real beauties. Back then I had 4 or 5 sessions per day easily with hot girls like Aurelia, Roxana, Kate etc in Sharks. Now in last few trips in 2018, I'm struggling to find a beauty in Sharks but Globe is having at least 10 or more girls I would easily session with. There is a simple reason - Globe management accepts only beautiful non-fat girls and ensures that girls are providing services that they get paid for. Generally, 3 bad reports to the frontdesk and the girl is out of Globe at least temporarily, may even be permanently. Sharks nowadays let's anyone with a pussy to work.

Again to each is his own. Maybe you like the girls who many of us consider GND not beauty, good for you. 😁.

ExpatLover
01-18-19, 20:15
I think you are missing the point. Both Siri and I are saying that currently Globe has much much better quality girls (in our eyes and experiences) than Sharks currently. In the past (from 2015 to early 2017), Sharks used to have at least 10 or 15 real beauties. Back then I had 4 or 5 sessions per day easily with hot girls like Aurelia, Roxana, Kate etc in Sharks. Now in last few trips in 2018, I'm struggling to find a beauty in Sharks but Globe is having at least 10 or more girls I would easily session with. There is a simple reason - Globe management accepts only beautiful non-fat girls and ensures that girls are providing services that they get paid for. Generally, 3 bad reports to the frontdesk and the girl is out of Globe at least temporarily, may even be permanently. Sharks nowadays let's anyone with a pussy to work.

Again to each is his own. Maybe you like the girls who many of us consider GND not beauty, good for you. 😁.Most of the girls are coming from eastern Europe, less and less new comers always the same pro around switching from one club to another or from one country to another.

ExpatLover
01-18-19, 20:18
Hi everybody,

I was at Sharks yesterday and had a very nice session with Brenda again. Really girl friend like and highly recommended.

Her tight body with the mega large natural tits is incredible and perhaps even better now after she had lost a couple of pounds last year.

On another note. I recognized a new Romanian girl (woman), who is quite an appearance but also makes the impression to have quite some attitude. She seems tall (probably over 170 without shoes) long black hair. Age may be something like 28-32. Beautiful face (this is a 10). Beautiful body (also a 10). The only downside seems to be a ruined tit job with nipples facing down. I did not talk to her and have not been to the room with her. So I can not say anything bad. Its just that she is exceptional beautiful and at the same time seems a little affectionate and in my view from her behavior screaming for attention. At the same time its not possible to even get eye contact).Brenda is a pro, was 1 time with her in '17 never repeat she is just a stupid girl believing she is a queen but she is just a prostitute getting fucked by everyone ready to pay for her. Under the sunshine she is far less beautiful.

Nick The G
01-18-19, 21:38
Now in last few trips in 2018, I'm struggling to find a beauty in Sharks but Globe is having at least 10 or more girls I would easily session with. There is a simple reason - Globe management accepts only beautiful non-fat girls and ensures that girls are providing services that they get paid for. Generally, 3 bad reports to the frontdesk and the girl is out of Globe at least temporarily, may even be permanently. Sharks nowadays let's anyone with a pussy to work. Alright, general theme: the others have to change to make me feel better.

Why not change your own behavior, that is the easiest way to change things! Please remain in Switzerland and club Globe. And write your elaborate thoughts about managing a club directly to Sharks management and offer your sophisticated ways of helping.

Gaolegao366
01-19-19, 10:21
Arrived at Sharks around 3 pm on Wednesday, the line up was mediocre, however, Steffi returned so we exchanged some pleasant conversation. There was one girl who claimed to be half Turkish and half German, too bad I forgot her name. We spent one hour together, she was a fun person to be around with. After that I just went home due to tiredness from 10 hour flight two days in a row.

The second day, the lineup was worse due to the raining weather. Therefore, I only spent time with Steffi and save my stamina for Friday. So when I arrived at Sharks on Friday around 4 PM I realize that there are definitely more girls than Wednesday however the lineup did not improve at all, so I told myself "It's OK, it would be better when the time goes by" Turned out I was wrong, the LU stayed like that for the rest of the night. I have been reading the forum once every three days and see other fellows talked about the quality drop and never thought Sharks could be this bad now. Sure, I understand that it is January after New Year and Christmas, girls went home for holiday, but I probably would go to the room with 2 or 3 girls from the entire club. The good old days had passed, I remember around 2015 or 2016 when girls like Roxana, dirty blond Michelle, one girl looks like American singer Iggy and other girls I forgot their names were around, it was truly a great time. That time I have also tried other clubs like Palace, paradise, samya, Artemis in Berlin, Manhattain and Oase. All the clubs are different but I like Sharks more because of the huge space and quality of the girls.

I think it becomes a routine now for some of the girls in Sharks that they would skip Friday and come to club Saturday and Sunday instead, because the business is really not that great on Friday. And this becomes a terrible circle, customers do not see many stunners on Friday, so they do not come to the club next Friday, girls do not see many potential business so they do not come.

Anyway, let's hope sharks would do something to make the whole thing better.

Citizen Kane
01-19-19, 11:29
one girl looks like American singer Iggy Fucking hell.

TankTank123
01-19-19, 12:16
Fucking hell.Here is a slightly better-looking very famous singer named Iggy; but she is not American. So, Citizen Kane's is probably the correct one.
The Turkish-German is probably Zeynap.

Gaolegao366
01-19-19, 12:49
Fucking hell.LOL. My bad I mean iggy azalea. Thanks for pointing out.

Nick The G
01-19-19, 12:49
The Turkish-German is probably Zeynap.Depends on what size she has and what her hair color is!

Zeynep is turkish / romanian, more a small and slim girl with dark hair. On Wednesday, there were, at least, two turkish / german girls around, each with dark blonde hair / blonde highlights, one of them is taller, the well-known, elegantly looking, Sally! (often in a towel). The other one is a very good looking girl too, pretty face, with dark tan, name I don't know. But I have seen her quite often there, hanging around close to the "german table", where Lara and Mandy and Gina sit.

Member #4636
01-19-19, 15:51
I think it becomes a routine now for some of the girls in Sharks that they would skip Friday and come to club Saturday and Sunday instead, because the business is really not that great on Friday. And this becomes a terrible circle, customers do not see many stunners on Friday, so they do not come to the club next Friday, girls do not see many potential business so they do not come.

Anyway, let's hope sharks would do something to make the whole thing better.I have asked many girls in Palace, sharks, Mainhattan which day is the best and they all have told me, there is no specific day, any day!

I have also experienced this by myself seen Palace empty on a Friday night and much better on a Tuesday. Same for Sharks.

So when I want to visit a club I mainly focus on the time of visit and not the day, I know in example that Sharks can be busy from 11.30 am while Palace has action only after 7 pm.

TankTank123
01-19-19, 16:55
Zeynep is turkish / romanian, more a small and slim girl with dark hair. The other one is a very good looking girl too, pretty face, with dark tan, name I don't know. But I have seen her quite often there, hanging around close to the "german table", where Lara and Mandy and Gina sit.You are right. My bad. I got confused because there was a day last summer when I had sessions with a girl who was Turkish/Romanian (Zeynep), and shortly after, with a girl who claimed she was Turkish/German. This latter girl is Simai, and she fits your description of tanned, pretty, and seated on the German table. If the one you had in mind is slim, then she should be Simai.

My confusion came about because later another girl told me that Simai is actually Turkish/Romanian who just happened to speak German reasonably well. Somehow therefore my brain mistakenly transferred the 'German' tag to Zeynep.

Nick The G
01-19-19, 19:09
I got confused because there was a day last summer when I had sessions with a girl who was Turkish/Romanian (Zeynep), and shortly after, with a girl who claimed she was Turkish/German. This latter girl is Simai, and she fits your description of tanned, pretty, and seated on the German table. If the one you had in mind is slim, then she should be Simai.Hey TankTank, sorry to disappoint you again. It is for sure not Simay, because she was not there last Wednesday (haven't seen her for the last weeks).

ExpatLover
01-19-19, 19:15
Hey TankTank, sorry to disappoint you again. It is for sure not Simay, because she was not there last Wednesday (haven't seen her for the last weeks).Is it really so important to know if the girl is half Turkish or Romanian, what matter is that she provide good service all the rest is just cheating.

Takedown
01-19-19, 21:19
I think it becomes a routine now for some of the girls in Sharks that they would skip Friday and come to club Saturday and Sunday instead, because the business is really not that great on Friday. And this becomes a terrible circle, customers do not see many stunners on Friday, so they do not come to the club next Friday, girls do not see many potential business so they do not come.

Anyway, let's hope sharks would do something to make the whole thing better.I've actually noticed that Friday along with Wednesdays seemed to be the best days for the best girls. If a girl skips Friday, I think it's because she just perceives that it slow. That's because there is more competition, not less men. In her eyes, Fridays become a "slow" day, but actually the line up is generally better on Fridays than Saturdays and Sundays. Almost always, Tuesdays are the worst days at Sharks. I've also had bad luck on Thursdays. Mondays are a wild card days.

MofoIar
01-20-19, 13:29
Today was my second day in Sharks. The first day was a blur. I was like a kid in a candy store. It was so good. I only remember a few names unfortunately but all my sessions except one with Ada were excellent. Everyone was really nice but she was just a dead fish in all positions. I'll recount the ones I can remember.

1. Brenda- my first. Holy shit. I've never seen natural boobs that big on a girl that skinny. Easily as big as my head. We were in the room on the first floor with the curtains and all the mirrors. My god the view of her sucking my dick from angles in the mirror was incredible. I didn't even know where to look. 50 e for thirty min. CBJ but BBBJ was offered.

2. Zayla- very aggressive sorta sharky. Nice ass. Fake boobs. Great BBBJ with deep kissing. Excellent view from doggy. 100 e for 30 min.

3. Bella- there are probably a few bellas here but this one in about 5'7". 21 yo. Pretty rectangular face. Great natural boobs. Great ass. Enthusiastic great attitude. Always laughing. She honestly looked like a Victoria angel walking down the stairs. 100 e for 1 h. BBBJ, DATY, kissing, rimming included. Actually repeated a session with her. Same letters same great session.

4. Vanessa- she was very cold to me but I think she was just messing with me. Second tightest pussy I felt there. It was so good that I had to repeat with her. 50 e for 30 with BBBJ. Didn't kiss her.

5. I can't remember this lady's name but she has black hair. Very muscular. Lots of tattoos. Fake lips fake tits. Very nice lady. Asked for standard but she did BBBJ and stuck her tongue down my throat anyway. Extremely tight. I thought I would break in half inside of her. Very sweaty hot session. Experimented by just giving her 50 e for the 30 like we agreed. She seemed happy with me and didn't ask for more so I just gave her an extra 50 e because that was truly a pse experience.

There were three more from the first night that I do not remember the details of. They were really that memorable unfortunately.

On the second day / night.

1. Anabelle? OK session CBJ 50 e for 30.

2. Bella repeat of the first night. Still excellent.

3. Lara- German. She is so cute and so nice. We laughed as much as we fucked. I'll never forget her looking into my eyes and say welcome to Germany as I entered her. Great kissing. All the applicable letters.

4. A Hungarian girl? Alex? I can't remember but is was a good session. All the letters with her although she seemed quite cold to me at first.

5 Vanessa again. The pussy was too good. Attitude be damned.

6. Won't be much help because I can't remember her name. Sorry.

Time for bed.

DarknessFalls
01-20-19, 19:16
I will be visiting Sharks on 26/01/2019, will be my 4th time going. I really like the sound of Brenda. Please can somebody tell me what she looks like and where she sits? Would be great to see her for the first time. Thanks.

Optimist
01-20-19, 19:26
Mofolar. Thanks for the useful report. For a first time visitor you did really well. Congrats in getting some decent sessions. I have for the time being abandoned Sharks due to what I consider overcharging: one of your girls charged 100 euros for 30 minutes, without providing any extras: am I correct?. And I hate the restrictions on kissing: that is supposed to be part of the basic service.

As a perspective, there is another club I know where the regular customers are trying to get a girl sacked (so to speak) on the grounds that she does not kiss. They say her service is awful: in fact it is better than the fuck and suck which some girls at Sharks and Oase are selling.Just to give a rounded picture.

Anyway, thanks again. Reports like yours are invaluable

Gaolegao366
01-20-19, 20:33
Depends on what size she has and what her hair color is!

Zeynep is turkish / romanian, more a small and slim girl with dark hair. On Wednesday, there were, at least, two turkish / german girls around, each with dark blonde hair/blonde highlights, one of them is taller, the well-known, elegantly looking, Sally! (often in a towel). The other one is a very good looking girl too, pretty face, with dark tan, name I don't know. But I have seen her quite often there, hanging around close to the "german table", where Lara and Mandy and Gina sit.That might be her. Her skin is a little bit dark and many of us might consider that as the "tan". Before we got into the room she made it clear that it was 100 Euro for 30 min, 150 Euro for 1 hour, great time guaranteed. I did had a fantastic time with her, however she did not seem into DFK. Not sure if she only charge me more than the standard rate or she does this to everyone.

BigBuddy69
01-20-19, 21:40
So you paid 50 € more and didn't get DFK. Doesn't sound like a good bargain to me.

Tedesco
01-20-19, 23:28
Not sure if she only charge me more than the standard rate or she does this to everyone.Zenep is wearing white classical high heels. Last Wednesday she was in. You spent a great time with her. Congrats, however 150 is..

ExpatLover
01-21-19, 03:06
Today was my second day in Sharks. The first day was a blur. I was like a kid in a candy store. It was so good. I only remember a few names unfortunately but all my sessions except one with Ada were excellent. Everyone was really nice but she was just a dead fish in all positions. I'll recount the ones I can remember.

1. Brenda- my first. Holy shit. I've never seen natural boobs that big on a girl that skinny. Easily as big as my head. We were in the room on the first floor with the curtains and all the mirrors. My god the view of her sucking my dick from angles in the mirror was incredible. I didn't even know where to look. 50 e for thirty min. CBJ but BBBJ was offered.

2. Zayla- very aggressive sorta sharky. Nice ass. Fake boobs. Great BBBJ with deep kissing. Excellent view from doggy. 100 e for 30 min.

3. Bella- there are probably a few bellas here but this one in about 5'7". 21 yo. Pretty rectangular face. Great natural boobs. Great ass. Enthusiastic great attitude. Always laughing. She honestly looked like a Victoria angel walking down the stairs. 100 e for 1 h. BBBJ, DATY, kissing, rimming included. Actually repeated a session with her. Same letters same great session..Congratulations to be able to session so may girls and coming each time, hopefully without blue pills.

Optimist
01-21-19, 13:12
That might be her. Her skin is a little bit dark and many of us might consider that as the "tan". Before we got into the room she made it clear that it was 100 Euro for 30 min, 150 Euro for 1 hour, great time guaranteed. I did had a fantastic time with her, however she did not seem into DFK. Not sure if she only charge me more than the standard rate or she does this to everyone.As BB69 suggests.

I know I am becoming Uncle Rain On Parade Guy, but the rate is 50 for 30 minutes including DFK. In some clubs the girls are trying to raise it to 100 for 30 minutes without DFK in some cases. The standard service of 50 for 30 including day and DFK is available, but for one off first day foreign visitors might be hard to find. Some clubs however it is 95% easy to find.

Pistons
01-21-19, 15:44
I will be visiting Sharks on 26/01/2019, will be my 4th time going. I really like the sound of Brenda. Please can somebody tell me what she looks like and where she sits? Would be great to see her for the first time. Thanks.Hard to miss Brenda as she usually hangs around near the largest intersection point of the club: by the short side of the main bar towards the reception / dining area. Black hair, long face. Maybe 1.65 tall, but always looks taller due to stilts (very high heels). Famous for tits, so most guys in the club knows who she is due to this easy earmark. So just ask. I never tried her, but I admit she looks good and has a great attitude.

Gino02
01-21-19, 18:18
As BB69 suggests.

I know I am becoming Uncle Rain On Parade Guy, but the rate is 50 for 30 minutes including DFK. In some clubs the girls are trying to raise it to 100 for 30 minutes without DFK in some cases. The standard service of 50 for 30 including day and DFK is available, but for one off first day foreign visitors might be hard to find. Some clubs however it is 95% easy to find.Hey Optimist, good point but much of our advices about standard rates are being ignored by the overpaying fools anyway. It has nothing to do with being one off first day foreign visitor, it's about personal choices. On my very first FKK visit my very first encounter I took the 2 girls to reception and paid zero. This was in Oase about 10 years back and I was probably visibly excited to see so many naked girls at once first time in my life, and these 2 girls tried to scam 50 e each for their introductory sales pitch of perfunctory 2 minutes BBBJ on the main floor couch even without asking me. But I did my homework of RTFF and stood by my decision not to take them to room for threesome as I wanted to first check out the whole LU. If a stupid like me can negotiate and stand by my decision on the first ever FKK encounter, all other guys can do the same or better, it's just that these overpaying fools are chosing not to do so.

Toto001
01-21-19, 18:41
I will be visiting Sharks on 26/01/2019, will be my 4th time going. I really like the sound of Brenda. Please can somebody tell me what she looks like and where she sits? Would be great to see her for the first time. Thanks.Brenda is usually standing at the front tip of the bar, close to the entrance to the buffet / kitchen. Usually at the left corner of the tip when you enter the room. She stood out and is actively trying to find eye contact to any man and is usually quit busy. So she usually does not stand there long time before the next client will pick her.

Steve 9696
01-21-19, 19:54
Hey Optimist, good point but much of our advices about standard rates are being ignored by the overpaying fools anyway. It has nothing to do with being one off first day foreign visitor, it's about personal choices. On my very first FKK visit my very first encounter I took the 2 girls to reception and paid zero. This was in Oase about 10 years back and I was probably visibly excited to see so many naked girls at once first time in my life, and these 2 girls tried to scam 50 e each for their introductory sales pitch of perfunctory 2 minutes BBBJ on the main floor couch even without asking me. But I did my homework of RTFF and stood by my decision not to take them to room for threesome as I wanted to first check out the whole LU. If a stupid like me can negotiate and stand by my decision on the first ever FKK encounter, all other guys can do the same or better, it's just that these overpaying fools are chosing not to do so.Perhaps English is not your first language but there is a big difference between saying someone behaved foolishly in a given situation (we all do at some time) and calling someone a fool which is a permanent reflection of lingering stupidity. So I would say your name calling in this case quite harsh and frankly probably quite far from the truth.

If someone makes let's say 200.000€ a year, 50€ means way less to him than does the hassle and downer of arguing over it. (Though in your case it sounds a straight up scam). And I would also venture to say that a person who is earning that type of money is rarely a fool. (Though exemptions do exist see Trump. Haha).

Takedown
01-21-19, 20:14
Perhaps English is not your first language but there is a big difference between saying someone behaved foolishly in a given situation (we all do at some time) and calling someone a fool which is a permanent reflection of lingering stupidity. So I would say your name calling in this case quite harsh and frankly probably quite far from the truth.

If someone makes let's say 200.000 a year, 50 means way less to him than does the hassle and downer of arguing over it. (Though in your case it sounds a straight up scam). And I would also venture to say that a person who is earning that type of money is rarely a fool. (Though exemptions do exist see Trump. Haha).Nothing new here. Internet, anonymity, keyboard warriors, manners forgotten. Happens a lot on this forum.

BigBuddy69
01-21-19, 20:46
Perhaps English is not your first language but there is a big difference between saying someone behaved foolishly in a given situation (we all do at some time) and calling someone a fool which is a permanent reflection of lingering stupidity. So I would say your name calling in this case quite harsh and frankly probably quite far from the truth.

If someone makes let's say 200.000 a year, 50 means way less to him than does the hassle and downer of arguing over it. (Though in your case it sounds a straight up scam). And I would also venture to say that a person who is earning that type of money is rarely a fool. (Though exemptions do exist see Trump. Haha).When I started attending sauna clubs, I was making 7 times less money than the figure you tell about. So instead of going to 50 € clubs, the example you're talking about should go to 350 € clubs (for 30 minutes). Maybe he'll be more cautious about the way he spends his money.

Jon75
01-21-19, 21:42
Zenep is wearing white classical high heels. Last Wednesday she was in. You spent a great time with her. Congrats, however 150 is..Has anyone seen Angelina these days? Latvian MILF brunette with a huge ass.

McAdonis
01-22-19, 02:24
Has anyone seen Angelina these days? Latvian MILF brunette with a huge ass.Thought someone posted her FB profile page recently. Not sure if the poster got her consent for this.

MofoIar
01-22-19, 02:25
Hey Optimist, good point but much of our advices about standard rates are being ignored by the overpaying fools anyway. It has nothing to do with being one off first day foreign visitor, it's about personal choices. On my very first FKK visit my very first encounter I took the 2 girls to reception and paid zero. This was in Oase about 10 years back and I was probably visibly excited to see so many naked girls at once first time in my life, and these 2 girls tried to scam 50 e each for their introductory sales pitch of perfunctory 2 minutes BBBJ on the main floor couch even without asking me. But I did my homework of RTFF and stood by my decision not to take them to room for threesome as I wanted to first check out the whole LU. If a stupid like me can negotiate and stand by my decision on the first ever FKK encounter, all other guys can do the same or better, it's just that these overpaying fools are chosing not to do so.As another poster alluded to, I'm not haggling over 50 euro. Fool or not, that's really not worth it to me. Today all the girls asked me condom (For the BJ)? And I verified that it was included in the standard price. Easiest way to get around it for me is to just take an hour. Everything tends to be included and there is no rush at all.

But if you keep on complaining, tomorrow I'm going to start giving everyone 100 euro for standard service 30 min with CBJ and no kissing LOL. I'm partially kidding.

I even tip the bartenders because they are nice. And yes the girls see this. Tomorrow I might give them 50 euro for serving free drinks with a smile. I don't see how that makes it harder for you. The girls know I am foreign although I am not Asian. If your negotiating skills are as good as you claim, you shouldn't have a problem getting the same service for the same price you always pay.

MofoIar
01-22-19, 02:32
When I started attending sauna clubs, I was making 7 times less money than the figure you tell about. So instead of going to 50 clubs, the example you're talking about should go to 350 clubs (for 30 minutes). Maybe he'll be more cautious about the way he spends his money.If you truly made 7 times less than 200 k, you don't think it's foolish to throw money away in the sauna clubs? Invest in yourself first! Hahah honestly it's all in good fun. And if I ever see you at sharks I will buy you a beer.

Today was dead. I struggled just to do 3 rooms. The good thing is, the girls I was with today seemed to make more effort and there was no clock watching whatsoever. The blowjobs were deep (and bare) and the fucking was enthusiastic. Just a shame, that there weren't more girls to fuck!

Takedown
01-22-19, 04:48
If you truly made 7 times less than 200 k, you don't think it's foolish to throw money away in the sauna clubs? Invest in yourself first! Hahah honestly it's all in good fun. And if I ever see you at sharks I will buy you a beer.Hah! My first trip was in 2008 and when I was using grad student loan money to fund my mongering! So when others were spending spring breaks in Florida, I went to sauna clubs. Not foolish at all!

Jon75
01-22-19, 10:48
Thought someone posted her FB profile page recently. Not sure if the poster got her consent for this.Is she working at Sharks nowadays?

Nick The G
01-22-19, 10:57
Has anyone seen Angelina these days? Latvian MILF brunette with a huge ass.Last week I saw her on Wednesday.

Pistons
01-22-19, 11:47
Perhaps English is not your first language but there is a big difference between saying someone behaved foolishly in a given situation (we all do at some time) and calling someone a fool which is a permanent reflection of lingering stupidity. So I would say your name calling in this case quite harsh and frankly probably quite far from the truth.

If someone makes let's say 200.000 a year, 50 means way less to him than does the hassle and downer of arguing over it. (Though in your case it sounds a straight up scam). And I would also venture to say that a person who is earning that type of money is rarely a fool. (Though exemptions do exist see Trump. Haha).Not saying I fully agree nor disagree with you here, but pyrite: fool's gold.

https://geology.com/gold/fools-gold/

So may some types of riches also be an illusion?

Sirioja
01-22-19, 16:14
Thought someone posted her FB profile page recently. Not sure if the poster got her consent for this.For sure he didn't, she answered, I asked to delete all posts referring.

Turgid
01-22-19, 16:15
.............But if you keep on complaining, tomorrow I'm going to start giving everyone 100 euro for standard service 30 min with CBJ and no kissing LOL. .................That'll show him.

Turgid
01-22-19, 16:26
Hard to miss Brenda as she usually hangs around near the largest intersection point of the club: by the short side of the main bar towards the reception / dining area. Black hair, long face. Maybe 1.65 tall, but always looks taller due to stilts (very high heels). Famous for tits, so most guys in the club knows who she is due to this easy earmark. So just ask. I never tried her, but I admit she looks good and has a great attitude.I have this thing where if a girl in the club stays from a distance and points her finger to me and then to herself I ignore her for if she is too lazy to come up to me and chat then she'll be too lazy in the sack. That's why I've never done Brenda. She always does that finger pointing bit. However, she has gotten some good reviews here and I may just have to alter my reaction in my next visit as she is quite alluring.

Pistons
01-22-19, 22:32
I have this thing where if a girl in the club stays from a distance and points her finger to me and then to herself I ignore her for if she is too lazy to come up to me and chat then she'll be too lazy in the sack. That's why I've never done Brenda. She always does that finger pointing bit. However, she has gotten some good reviews here and I may just have to alter my reaction in my next visit as she is quite alluring.I think you coined it well there. Subliminally that's probably what has gotten to me also.

Hiimk
01-23-19, 00:39
Hi all,

This will be my first time to travel to Frankfurt and also first time to FKK club. I heard a lot about shark and Oase. I'm wondering which one is better for a newbie. Any suggestion is appreciated!

Takedown
01-23-19, 01:33
Hi all,

This will be my first time to travel to Frankfurt and also first time to FKK club. I heard a lot about shark and Oase. I'm wondering which one is better for a newbie. Any suggestion is appreciated!Oase is definitely not newbie friendly. Sharks is only marginally easier to navigate.

PayForIt
01-23-19, 02:40
Oase is definitely not newbie friendly. Sharks is only marginally easier to navigate.Not sure I agree with this. My first ever FKK experience was in Artemis in Berlin and I'm glad it was because the bigger the club the easier it is not to stand out. If you go to a small club with not a lot of punters or girls you really need to know what to accept and what not to. In the bigger clubs you can say you are not ready / relaxing / recovering to ward off unwanted attention without blowing all of your options. And the bizzare layout (up and down stairs) at Oase is perfect. More perfect than at Sharks for wandering around. So I'm thinking Oase is a good newbie club. If the newbie is willing to part with a few hundred euros on girls. Which on your first time most newbies would have no issue with.

Takedown
01-23-19, 04:39
Not sure I agree with this. My first ever FKK experience was in Artemis in Berlin and I'm glad it was because the bigger the club the easier it is not to stand out. If you go to a small club with not a lot of punters or girls you really need to know what to accept and what not to. In the bigger clubs you can say you are not ready / relaxing / recovering to ward off unwanted attention without blowing all of your options. And the bizzare layout (up and down stairs) at Oase is perfect. More perfect than at Sharks for wandering around. So I'm thinking Oase is a good newbie club. If the newbie is willing to part with a few hundred euros on girls. Which on your first time most newbies would have no issue with.From the viewpoint of not being conned by sharky girls and being pressured to pay more than the club rate to get good service, Oase is not good newbie club. Not hating on Oase, it was my most frequented club of 2018. But unless the monger is going in there expecting to spend a minimum of 100+ euro per session whether it be for 1 hour or half hour, I would never recommend a newbie to go there. From that point of view, it's a bad club for a first ever visit.

I stand on the belief that it is not a good precedent to spend big at first and then start to budget on future visits. Even worse, the new guy spends big at first and continues to splash Oase level money at other clubs because he thinks that's the normal economics of all FKKs (East Asian tourists.) Better to start conservative and then add the extras or extend time after you have a few good 50 euro rooms under your belt.

TankTank123
01-23-19, 04:57
I have this thing where if a girl in the club stays from a distance and points her finger to me and then to herself I ignore her for if she is too lazy to come up to me and chat then she'll be too lazy in the sack. That's why I've never done Brenda. She always does that finger pointing bit. However, she has gotten some good reviews here and I may just have to alter my reaction in my next visit as she is quite alluring.In many of my visits to Sharks last year, Brenda would do exactly that finger-pointing-at-a-distance routine. Like you, my reaction to all such attempts was to ignore her.

However, during one visit late last year, I responded positively as I remembered a recent good review of her. I should have stuck to my initial instincts. Once in the room, she tried to upsell, and when I refused to agree to extras, I received just normal mechanical service. Later when I searched to read all the posts relating to Brenda, they were indeed mixed reviews. I suspect the good ones were those who paid 100 euros and the poor ones were from those who paid 50.

For those interested, I think her most distinguishable identifying feature are her huge duck-lips, albeit very attractive. But be prepared for upselling.

Steve 9696
01-23-19, 05:03
Hi all,

This will be my first time to travel to Frankfurt and also first time to FKK club. I heard a lot about shark and Oase. I'm wondering which one is better for a newbie. Any suggestion is appreciated!Like everyone, I was a newbie at each of these at some point. Just get a drink early on and your inhibitions will fade and none of it will be intimidating. Just wander around and figure it out. Oase definitely has a tight and confusing layout whereas Sharks has a large open bar area, if that matters. Do both if you can and let the other newbies know your thoughts once you are an old hand.

I would be wary of the first few girls that approach. They are confident professionals and may try to finish you very quickly in the room. Just say you just arrived and want to relax some first. And figure out what you like.

TankTank123
01-23-19, 05:31
I would be wary of the first few girls that approach. Especially at Oase. The constricted area at the entrance and money lockers allow the sharky girls to closely track all newcomers entering, and when they emerge from the changing room and walk towards the bar, the sharks will zoom in on them quite quickly.

The openness at the Sharks entrance area make it much harder for newcomers to be tracked and cornered. Only if you venture hesitantly into the dance-pole junction would you be immediately assailed by the dance-pole girls, especially if you are Asian.

That said, one can hide in the girls-free rest area in Oase, while there is nowhere to hide in Sharks.

ExpatLover
01-23-19, 06:34
In many of my visits to Sharks last year, Brenda would do exactly that finger-pointing-at-a-distance routine. Like you, my reaction to all such attempts was to ignore her.

However, during one visit late last year, I responded positively as I remembered a recent good review of her. I should have stuck to my initial instincts. Once in the room, she tried to upsell, and when I refused to agree to extras, I received just normal mechanical service. Later when I searched to read all the posts relating to Brenda, they were indeed mixed reviews. I suspect the good ones were those who paid 100 euros and the poor ones were from those who paid 50.

For those interested, I think her most distinguishable identifying feature are her huge duck-lips, albeit very attractive. But be prepared for upselling.Just have a small look on my reports about Brenda, 2017 one room never repeat, she believes she is a princess but she is just a prostitute getting fucked by everyone ready to pay for it.

Sirioja
01-23-19, 07:27
In many of my visits to Sharks last year, Brenda would do exactly that finger-pointing-at-a-distance routine. Like you, my reaction to all such attempts was to ignore her.

However, during one visit late last year, I responded positively as I remembered a recent good review of her. I should have stuck to my initial instincts. Once in the room, she tried to upsell, and when I refused to agree to extras, I received just normal mechanical service. Later when I searched to read all the posts relating to Brenda, they were indeed mixed reviews. I suspect the good ones were those who paid 100 euros and the poor ones were from those who paid 50.

For those interested, I think her most distinguishable identifying feature are her huge duck-lips, albeit very attractive. But be prepared for upselling.Isn't Brenda ex Lea, with amazing natural big tits, even they looked less full on my last visit on end of November, with slim body and black stockings, staying now at the bar on entrance side? Not anymore close to Jellis and Rebeka.

Turgid
01-23-19, 15:45
In many of my visits to Sharks last year, Brenda would do exactly that finger-pointing-at-a-distance routine. Like you, my reaction to all such attempts was to ignore her.

However, during one visit late last year, I responded positively as I remembered a recent good review of her. I should have stuck to my initial instincts. Once in the room, she tried to upsell, and when I refused to agree to extras, I received just normal mechanical service........Hmmm, it seems as though my instincts were correct. It pays to follow your intuition.

Loco Tonto
01-23-19, 22:17
Hi all,

This will be my first time to travel to Frankfurt and also first time to FKK club. I heard a lot about shark and Oase. I'm wondering which one is better for a newbie. Any suggestion is appreciated!My 2 cents: if newbie, avoid Oase. The girls there thrive on newbies who don't know anything, and will try to rip you off as much as they can. Whether in terms of overcharging, upwelling, time wasting, limited services, or just plain cheating. It happens to even regulars of this forum who are not newbies (but not recognised regulars) at Oase.

Other posters have answered your question already in their own ways, offering their insights from the perspective of a newbie. What I would offer, is a little more wide-angle perspective: going to Oase as a newbie, just encourages the girls there to not only continue their schemes and scams on you, but also acts as further fuel for them to take advantage of all other future newbies because of this consistent stream of uninformed or inexperienced punters.

Sharks IMHO, is a MUCH easier place to go as a newbie. There are fewer girls than in Oase who demand 100 per hour and many very decent / good looking girls will still do 50 for 30. Compared to this, the standard price for most girls at Oase (NOT JUST good looking ones) is 150 per hour (unless you are a regular). On top of which, from my experience, even paying 150 does not mean the girls at Oase will then not try to further scam you on time, services or performance! To me, and I say this sadly because I really did like Oase from long ago, the place has become like a long dark alley in a foreign city you are visiting. Yes, the girls hanging around the alley are good looking, and now and then you may have some luck and run into a decent girl (not meaning decent of heart, only of services rendered), but for the most part, it's a long dark alley where you don't know what you are getting into.

If you have tons of money to throw away, and do not care about being taken advantage of / cheated / scammed, then feel free to go. Or, you could try to"learn the ropes" at other more "girl-friendly" establishments first. It depends on you. If you go with logic and smaller safer steps, or if you like to roll the dice.

But as mentioned, be warned, if going to Oase, be prepared to hang on to your valuables (analogy), and be prepared to possibly be fighting / arguing / bargaining with at all times. Because that is what it is like going to buy things / explore a dark alley in a strange city as a tourist. If that is what you like to try, as an experience or as part of your character, go for it. But if you don't like intense bargaining/etc or you prefer a less combative experience, Sharks (of your proffered Oase v Sharks) might be a better choice.

Again, none of this is meant as offence to any who are regulars and / or fans of Oase, all just one man's opinion, and in answer to a fellow human being's request for assistance.

Tuber19
01-23-19, 22:19
Just Finnish 5 days at Sharks: " Mid January" Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday and Thuesday.

I've seen some guys repeatedly on these days so I figure out those were in Frankfurt for Sharks.

Line up wasent full like when I was there last time in November. I'd say its 70% of the numbers of girls. But number is not all. It was much fun this time.

After repeating visiting Sharks for 2-3 years. My routine has changed. I'm not trying to taste 3-5 girls per visit. But I rather do 1-2 rooms and each should be 1 hour or more.

The most reason for that. Other than repeated visits- is that most of the girls " I'd say 9 out of 10" will only suck and fuck. If I upgrade to an hour " which I do" most will kiss only on lips and not deep french kissing.

Now I think I'm turning into the "Sirioja model" . So no Deep Kiss means not fun sex anymore. And in my experience its not that popular in Sharks.

BUT. Its still so much fun. As I said 1-2 girls per visit would be enough for me. And lucky me I found 2 top girls for my tasting Betty and Xena.

I also tried other girls but I will not repeat because it was normal experience.

Lots of girls seen or chatted with such as Mandy, Brenda, Lavinia, Melanie, Rebecca, Zeynep, sonia, serena, Alexa, Mirella, Anastasia, Sandra, Lori, Patrizia and Roxy.

MofoIar
01-24-19, 01:51
Hah! My first trip was in 2008 and when I was using grad student loan money to fund my mongering! So when others were spending spring breaks in Florida, I went to sauna clubs. Not foolish at all!Using loaned money (that you have to pay interest on) to pay for monger vacations isn't silly? Maybe something is lost in translation there.

In the interest of keeping this on topic, on my last day I saw Mandy (also repeated Vanessa, Ashley, the 18 yo, Alex, and one more that I cannot remember the name of).

But Mandy, oh Mandy, I could wax poetic. She was quite the GFE. Went up to the room, she made the bed, lay next to me and without mention of money or time or what I wanted, just started kissing me all over. The meeting progressed from here. I had no idea how long we were there for neither of use looked at our watch. She didn't mention time and did nothing to hasten the conclusion of our event. I will keep the details semi private. Suffice to say all the expected letters were available and I will not hesitate to see her again. She smells great. I should have asked her what she uses to shampoo her hair because it drove me mad in a good way.

She was happy with 100 e.

Takedown
01-24-19, 02:00
Lots of girls seen or chatted with such as Mandy, Brenda, Lavinia, Melanie, Rebecca, Zeynep, sonia, serena, Alexa, Mirella, Anastasia, Sandra, Lori, Patrizia and Roxy.Any chance the Sandra you listed is blonde German Sandra?

PayForIt
01-24-19, 02:16
My 2 cents: if newbie, avoid Oase. To me, and I say this sadly because I really did like Oase from long ago, the place has become like a long dark alley in a foreign city you are visiting. Lots of good advice and thoughts for the newbie on his question and good points made by Loco and Takedown. I've considered them and think they have a lot of merit. My feeling was that you don't want your first visit to an FKK to be to a small intimate club. Whilst I stand by that I agree with what Takedown and Loco say here: the big open space at Sharks makes it easier to escape. As a newbie the last place you really want to be in is the no-girls rest area at Oase! The girls in both clubs (IMHO) are mostly sharky but more so at Oase and the ability to negotiate there is undoubtedly more restricted. But overall as a newbie to FKK flying in you'll not feel any of these issues. You'll think you are Julius Caesar himself surrounded by 100+ naked women who will have sex with you. I can honestly say that my first time (in Artemis) was still the most memorable visit I have ever had in any FKK. I would not be able to say if I recall the girls being sharky. Which they would have been there. I remember spending the first hour embarrassingly with my hand over my towel covering the rock hard boner I had and thinking it was going to be very difficult to choose who to session with first! So I'm always envious of any newbie. Not least as the more time you spend in FKK land the more blasι you get about nudity and at least I have become more and more picky. And even on pricing attitude becomes strangely warped. In US, UK or Dubai, I woudn't bat an eyelid at being asked for $250, £200 or the equivalent in dirhams for an hour with a pretty girl. And often a lot more. You get to FKK Land, get used to being able to go to rooms for 50 e or 60 at Artemis for 30 and double for both and then become outraged when a stunning girl wants you to agree to pay 100 for an hour but for that you'll get DFK and BBBJ! Crazy! Back over in US / UK / Dubai you would take the same girl on those terms for 2 or 3 hours at those rates. And the same economic misguided policy extends then to Thailand where you suddenly would think 100 for an hour would be you being completely ripped off!

So. Whether Oase, Sharks or elsewhere I hope the newbie posts on his experience and has a blast as I am sure he will!

Steve 9696
01-24-19, 03:08
My first FKK was World. And I was agog at the possibilities. I went with a "Spanish" girl (Now I know a Ro-girl). I knew standard was 50 and CIM extra 50. In room the BBBJ was spectacular. She started to lick my balls — you like? Yes. She said another 50 for BLS. And OMG it was good. I said yes. I wasn't planning CIM, but she shamed me into it — "you cum like a little boy in my hand?" LOL.

So I ended up doing an hour with BLS and 2 CIM for 200.

Now I am older and wiser and know I got schooled in the upsell. But at the time it was the most miraculous experience of my life. Yes I apparently overpaid (the BLS) but absolutely no regrets. It is one of my absolute fondest memories.

So prepare to be taken advantage of as a newbie. And have no regrets. It's still awesome!

Sirioja
01-24-19, 07:04
Just Finnish 5 days at Sharks: " Mid January" Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday and Thuesday.

I've seen some guys repeatedly on these days so I figure out those were in Frankfurt for Sharks.

Line up wasent full like when I was there last time in November. I'd say its 70% of the numbers of girls. But number is not all. It was much fun this time.

After repeating visiting Sharks for 2-3 years. My routine has changed. I'm not trying to taste 3-5 girls per visit. But I rather do 1-2 rooms and each should be 1 hour or more.

The most reason for that. Other than repeated visits- is that most of the girls " I'd say 9 out of 10" will only suck and fuck. If I upgrade to an hour " which I do" most will kiss only on lips and not deep french kissing.

Now I think I'm turning into the "Sirioja model"..My sex model is a pretty face with elegance and charm, woman type look, like legendary in Hessen Katalina who did welcome me at Globe where she was a superstar, or Ilka who tried Aphrodisia, if you knew them, Megan was for model type and lovely with so enjoyable smile and eyes. But I don t go with not really kissing girls, I didn't go with pretty face Tia, and I don't repeat with not woman behavior in bed, nor upselling girls, then only a one shot time, when my tip to my good girls is to return on next week. Some don't believe I will return from so far for them, but when they see me on next week end, then they understand I'm quite different, knowing have to deserve to get the best from girls, from our manners, behavior and also knowledge and skill with women. I remember Madi at World coming straight to kiss me when she saw me on next Saturday after our first, at the end of the night, only 30 mn room, because we started at 4.15 am, only 30 mn room we had of course.

On this Wednesday, because I always heard discount Wednesday are good casting days, because not far from my way, gave a new try at Sharks, good foods, good drinks, funny to put feet under ice in the swimming pool, many girls, I would say 60, more than enough for me, but casting is so down under, maybe I visited Globe too often and was too lucky with superstars there staying with me after room and shower together, for diner and resting from diner, 6h30 for only 550 € with German superstar, not bad rate. Despite smiling, but not so busy Mandy but not anymore with sophisticated look before Christmas, my nice chat with Madelina was the best of my sad, boring afternoon. She is what was Sharks before, not girls I will not even go for free, for full services offered, now on casting. Also seen ex Elektra, thin Paloma, Romanian Francesca, Stefi, Melani, German Lara, Inca, but not the faintest girl to light on just a little spark to wake my desire up to feel a bit hard. Just exhausting, depressing, boring, so I moved at 7.30 pm, good fun run to north where can see some pretty faces and it should improve.

Really sad Sharks casting, maybe I chose the worst Wednesday of the year, even club is good, after from so deep I came from, I ate a lot, with salmon, melon, pastas of course, turkey, pork, beef. So slow business, girls waiting, even Mandy, guys not going with girls, they even closed new rooms close to SM and fishes for massage now, where I had some good rooms in elephant room, for same size as say girls. They don t need anymore so many rooms?

So far below 2014/2015 which was high peak / 2016 until July, even were less girls but much prettier. Who are new Karin, Ilka, Agnes?

Jooeey
01-24-19, 11:12
JSo no Deep Kiss means not fun sex anymore. And in my experience its not that popular in Sharks.Wait what? You are saying Deep Kiss is now not possible in Sharks? Unless one agrees only for Long Hour Sessions?

Tuber19
01-24-19, 14:51
Any chance the Sandra you listed is blonde German Sandra?Yes she is.

UncleOx
01-24-19, 18:10
[QUOTE=Takedown;2277715]Any chance the Sandra you listed is blonde German Sandra?Yes she is. Wow, beautiful Sandra comes back! Good news! I am very eager to meet her soon for I haven't seen her for almost two years.

Thanks for the info.

ExpatLover
01-24-19, 19:18
My sex model is a pretty face with elegance and charm, woman type look, like legendary in Hessen Katalina who did welcome me at Globe where she was a superstar, or Ilka who tried Aphrodisia, if you knew them, Megan was for model type and lovely with so enjoyable smile and eyes. But I don t go with not really kissing girls, I didn't go with pretty face Tia, and I don't repeat with not woman behavior in bed, nor upselling girls, then only a one shot time, when my tip to my good girls is to return on next week. Some don't believe I will return from so far for them, but when they see me on next week end, then they understand I'm quite different, knowing have to deserve to get the best from girls, from our manners, behavior and also knowledge and skill with women. I remember Madi at World coming straight to kiss me when she saw me on next Saturday after our first, at the end of the night, only 30 mn room, because we started at 4.15 am, only 30 mn room we had of course.This also happens often to me, despite many girls I can not find one really sexy enough for me to spend my hardly earned euros to her, even worse in summer time when you can see most of the girls under the sunshine so many I will never fuck even they will pay me.

YamaYama0519
01-24-19, 19:50
Any chance the Sandra you listed is blonde German Sandra?


Yes she is.Am wondering if she is really back now.

Sirioja
01-24-19, 19:53
Yes she is.Lara, Mandy, but no Sandra. De.

HondaFans
01-25-19, 03:55
Hi guys,

I am planning to visit Germany next Wednesday. Did any guys could tell me whether Amelia and Elif are present recently? Last time in mid of Nov I couldn't meet them. Many thanks.

Sirioja
01-25-19, 05:34
Hi guys,

I am planning to visit Germany next Wednesday. Did any guys could tell me whether Amelia and Elif are present recently? Last time in mid of Nov I couldn't meet them. Many thanks.Both not seen on this Wednesday, nor Sandra, nor Evita. Nor Megan, my fault, on tour at Globe.

Nick The G
01-25-19, 13:03
Hi guys, I am planning to visit Germany next Wednesday. Did any guys could tell me whether Amelia and Elif are present recently?So far I haven't seen both of them in the new year.

Tuber19
01-25-19, 15:32
Am wondering if she is really back now.I'm confused. I'm not sure now if the Sandra you asking about is the same girl a saw. The girl I saw was skinny, blonde and have a big tatto covers her back. She sits on the bar near the german table. My friend told me her name is Sandra. I didn't speak with her because I wasnt interested.

Nick The G
01-25-19, 16:50
The girl I saw was skinny, blonde and have a big tatto covers her back. She sits on the bar near the german table.The girl described is the german Lara!

Sirioja
01-25-19, 18:34
I'm confused. I'm not sure now if the Sandra you asking about is the same girl a saw. The girl I saw was skinny, blonde and have a big tatto covers her back. She sits on the bar near the german table. My friend told me her name is Sandra. I didn't speak with her because I wasnt interested.She is Lara, she was friend with Sandra when they started on beginning of 2015. I would have been happy to chat a bit with Sandra on this Wednesday, like I did with Madelina, on a so boring afternoon, with a so average casting. Fortunately, I saw after prettier girls elsewhere in Germany.

Sandra had own marks on arms and legs, difficult youth.

Rajat1
01-25-19, 19:16
Returned last night from sharks here is my day:

Entered at 6:30 PM with around 20-30 girls. Line up looked decent as your enter. It always does when you are experiencing it after a few months. Almost every girl in the park approached me, and I had to politely ask them to let me relax and maybe we can "sit" together in sometime. Some of the girls thought I was easy meat being asian. I am. But sometimes!

After having relaxed I finalised a girl name Ak** . She has black hair with hughe but saggy knockers, Sits on the bar in front of the gate to the laundry area. She asked me for 100 euro 30 mintues for a complete GFE. I asked what's in 50 euro, she said suck and fuck. 100 includes sex in different poistions. Reminded me of RLD.

ANyways I rejected her offer and moved on to Carolina, romanian with natural rack, maybe in early twenties. She promised me GFE and everything for 100 euro in 1 hour. We went to one of the shacks upstairs, where inside the room I asked her to check time, she said its 9:05, I said show me, it was 9:15, (cheat one caught) . After a few love making acts she forced me to wear condom and asked me to fuck becoz according to her, if we prolong it I won't cum at all and may loose my hardness. Ehhh never heard that before. I argued and reminded her of the lot of time that we have. She was quick to tell me that we only have 10 minutes. Ehhh again? Well according to her 100 euro was for 30 minutes. Damn my wits. I didn't raise a scene and went a ahead with the deed and bye bye her.

Boy it was bad.

After that I didn't keep any hopes and went with manolina (I hope I got the name correct) a very voluptuous girl with nice firm rack for a 50 E 30 minutes, slam bam, thank you mam sex.

All in all a very disappointing experience. This is nowehere close to sharks that I have experienced in the past. If they don't control the gals soon, its going the RLD way, where cheats and morons participate!

I am not returning for sure!

Tuber19
01-25-19, 20:29
Returned last night from sharks here is my day:



All in all a very disappointing experience. This is nowehere close to sharks that I have experienced in the past. If they don't control the gals soon, its going the RLD way, where cheats and morons participate!

I am not returning for sure!Yes that's Sharks now unless you pick the right girl and build a relation with her. But I've been to Oase and Artemis in my latest trip and Sharks is better by a mile. I guess if you like suck and fuck then its still great and cheap with tons of lovely girls. But for GFE its hard even for 100/ h.

The 100/30 it a total Rip off.

ExpatLover
01-25-19, 21:00
Yes that's Sharks now unless you pick the right girl and build a relation with her. But I've been to Oase and Artemis in my latest trip and Sharks is better by a mile. I guess if you like suck and fuck then its still great and cheap with tons of lovely girls. But for GFE its hard even for 100/ h.

The 100/30 it a total Rip off.I don't want to play always the rule of the negative guy, but the times have changed, today so many pro veteran around starting the job with 18 or less and even they are 25 they got fucked 10000+ how do you want them to be natural, fresh with GFE, very difficult to find in the clubs but possible with amateurs.

Ggekko2009
01-25-19, 21:17
Returned last night from sharks here is my day:

Entered at 6:30 PM with around 20-30 girls. Line up looked decent as your enter. It always does when you are experiencing it after a few months. Almost every girl in the park approached me, and I had to politely ask them to let me relax and maybe we can "sit" together in sometime. Some of the girls thought I was easy meat being asian. I am. But sometimes!

After having relaxed I finalised a girl name Ak** . She has black hair with hughe but saggy knockers, Sits on the bar in front of the gate to the laundry area. She asked me for 100 euro 30 mintues for a complete GFE. I asked what's in 50 euro, she said suck and fuck. 100 includes sex in different poistions. Reminded me of RLD.

ANyways I rejected her offer and moved on to Carolina, romanian with natural rack, maybe in early twenties. She promised me GFE and everything for 100 euro in 1 hour. We went to one of the shacks upstairs, where inside the room I asked her to check time, she said its 9:05, I said show me, it was 9:15, (cheat one caught) . After a few love making acts she forced me to wear condom and asked me to fuck becoz according to her, if we prolong it I won't cum at all and may loose my hardness. Ehhh never heard that before. I argued and reminded her of the lot of time that we have. She was quick to tell me that we only have 10 minutes. Ehhh again? Well according to her 100 euro was for 30 minutes. Damn my wits. I didn't raise a scene and went a ahead with the deed and bye bye her.

Boy it was bad.

After that I didn't keep any hopes and went with manolina (I hope I got the name correct) a very voluptuous girl with nice firm rack for a 50 E 30 minutes, slam bam, thank you mam sex.

All in all a very disappointing experience. This is nowehere close to sharks that I have experienced in the past. If they don't control the gals soon, its going the RLD way, where cheats and morons participate!

I am not returning for sure!That's why I usually prefer going to NRW region for the FKK experience. I never remember getting up-sells there or any girls pulling stunts like that.

KingOfBongo
01-25-19, 21:41
That's kind of surprising all these bad experiences.

I was there last Saturday, it was my first Sharks visit of the year. The changes I noticed since my previous visit about one year ago were that they replaced one massage room with toilet, they created one massage room next to the SM room (I suppose the other rooms behind are now private room for girls, which is a good thing) and the robes are aging: I asked a new robe because one pocket was missing, the redhead girl gave me another one with the same default. And then I saw a guy in a robe with one missing pocket too.

But, girls behavior was quite the same. No one asked for 100/30 min or extra money for usual service. I even think that Serena, I first zimmered about 2 years ago, has improved her skills. Monika, 19, with pretty green eyes, gave quite a good service too.

YamaYama0519
01-26-19, 01:38
I'm confused. I'm not sure now if the Sandra you asking about is the same girl a saw. The girl I saw was skinny, blonde and have a big tatto covers her back. She sits on the bar near the german table. My friend told me her name is Sandra. I didn't speak with her because I wasnt interested.Thank you very much.

YamaYama0519
01-26-19, 01:42
Does anyone see Alina of World at Sharks?

Sirioja
01-26-19, 07:08
Returned last night from sharks here is my day:

Entered at 6:30 PM with around 20-30 girls. Line up looked decent as your enter. It always does when you are experiencing it after a few months. Almost every girl in the park approached me, and I had to politely ask them to let me relax and maybe we can "sit" together in sometime. Some of the girls thought I was easy meat being asian. I am. But sometimes!Thursday is not best casting day at Sharks, but previous day, Wednesday which is usually said to be a good casting day, was also a really disappointing casting, despite smiling Mandy, ex Elektra, lovely Madelina remaining from Sharks Golden years.

Guys were waiting but not going to girls. Maybe not the best time to visit, but when few girls are stuck to some clubs, usually high level girls go where good clients for good business. Girls don t tell about good business now at Sharks with expensive entry to work, when some girls make really good business elsewhere in Germany. Girls tell when they move.

Shark16
01-26-19, 08:40
Does anyone see Alina of World at Sharks?Which Alina? There must have been 3- 4 Alinas at World over the last 12 months.

Sirioja
01-26-19, 09:23
Does anyone see Alina of World at Sharks?Long time at World, blond, named Asian killer? Didn't see her, nor tall model type, blond Sabina. Both average face.

Lack of pretty faces, no elegance nor charm seen at Sharks unfortunately.

Takedown
01-26-19, 17:39
Long time at World, blond, named Asian killer? Didn't see her, nor tall model type, blond Sabina. Both average face.

Lack of pretty faces, no elegance nor charm seen at Sharks unfortunately.Regulars know that Sharks is not as great as it was in 2015. Despite that, most still believe that it is still worth frequent visits. Saying that Sharks has no beautiful girls for the twentieth time seems like its few to a personal vendetta rather than rational thought.

YamaYama0519
01-26-19, 21:18
Which Alina? There must have been 3- 4 Alinas at World over the last 12 months.Blonde pretty Alina, Asian killer, Alina #1.

YamaYama0519
01-26-19, 21:21
Long time at World, blond, named Asian killer? Didn't see her, nor tall model type, blond Sabina. Both average face...Thanks, Siri. Alina was a "sister" of Sabrina at World, Ha Ha Ha.

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Ortos
01-27-19, 03:08
Thanks, Siri. Alina was a "sister" of Sabrina at World, Ha Ha Ha.Both of them were working Sharks yesterday (Saturday) night. They were sitting for a while on a couch near the fish tank. They were part of what was in my opinion a rather mediocre LU.

Sirioja
01-27-19, 11:01
Both of them were working Sharks yesterday (Saturday) night. They were sitting for a while on a couch near the fish tank. They were part of what was in my opinion a rather mediocre LU.Then if these 2 World grannies who were already there when I discovered on January 2014 , really moved to Sharks, World should be really dead now even on Saturday, as I was told by model type, curly blond Cristina met elsewhere. World was already empty on Winter 2014/2015, but great time for me to have a top beauty when she was fresh, only for me on some days, even on some Saturdays. I didn't need to run after her, she was full free and fresh for me, sometimes for 3 rooms on same day, her only business on some Saturdays.

Not anymore such beauties at Sharks. Ariana at Oase is pretty but not sensual and woman in mind enough, not yet. Can find sometimes at Palace.

Ortos
01-27-19, 18:07
I believe it's important to note that when you see girls like Alina and Sabrina (World stalwarts) suddenly showing up at Sharks on a Saturday night in the middle of a giant multi-Messe event in adjacent Frankfurt, you have to ask: is this a permanent change of club? Or maybe a temporary exploring of new waters ripe with Messe guppies?

Takedown
01-27-19, 18:14
I believe it's important to note that when you see a girls like Alina and Sabrina (World stalwarts) suddenly showing you at Sharks on a Saturday night in the middle of a giant multi-Messe event in adjacent Frankfurt, you have to ask: is this a permanent change of club? Or maybe a temporary exploring of new waters ripe with Messe guppies?Good insight. Probably the latter since they are veterans as you mentioned. But who knows, World isn't exactly getting a lot of foot traffic these days compared to the other major Hessen clubs.

YamaYama0519
01-27-19, 19:59
Both of them were working Sharks yesterday (Saturday) night. They were sitting for a while on a couch near the fish tank. They were part of what was in my opinion a rather mediocre LU.Thanks for information, Ortos.

Nick The G
01-27-19, 22:55
I believe it's important to note that when you see girls like Alina and Sabrina (World stalwarts) suddenly showing up at Sharks on a Saturday night in the middle of a giant multi-Messe event in adjacent Frankfurt, you have to ask: is this a permanent change of club? Or maybe a temporary exploring of new waters ripe with Messe guppies?Whom did you ask? Since you are such a clever guy, I am sure you went up straight to both girls and asked them what the hell they are doing at Sharks?

Now, what was the answer they did give to you?

Or you want others to ask the questions, you have on your mind? Sorry, I have not been there, so I can't give an answer.

Ortos
01-27-19, 23:51
Whom did you ask? Since you are such a clever guy, I am sure you went up straight to both girls and asked them what the hell they are doing at Sharks?

Now, what was the answer they did give to you?

Or you want others to ask the questions, you have on your mind? Sorry, I have not been there, so I can't give an answer.Seems you missed the whole point of my post: I didn't ask anybody nor do I personally give a toss about either of those two. I was speaking in the abstract, just point out that, with any girl, just because you see her at a "new" club, doesn't mean there is a permanent club move. That's all. No reason to bring attitude and get snarky and aggressive calling a poster "clever guy," etc. Unless you yourself are a Natural Born Kluegscheisser?

And for Gods sake dont offer to ask any girl or anybody anything on my behalf. If I really care enough Ill do the asking myself.

Nick The G
01-28-19, 00:46
Seems you missed the whole point of my post: I didn't ask anybody nor do I personally give a toss about either of those two. I was speaking in the abstract, just point out that, with any girl, just because you see her at a "new" club, doesn't mean there is a permanent club move. That's all. No reason to bring attitude and get snarky and aggressive calling a poster "clever guy," etc. Unless you yourself are a Natural Born Kluegscheisser?
And for Gods sake dont offer to ask any girl or anybody anything on my behalf. If I really care enough Ill do the asking myself.


I believe it's important to note that when you see girls like Alina and Sabrina (World stalwarts) suddenly showing up at Sharks on a Saturday night in the middle of a giant multi-Messe event in adjacent Frankfurt, you have to ask: is this a permanent change of club? Or maybe a temporary exploring of new waters ripe with Messe guppies?
I find, that it would have been much easier and clearer, if you, in addition to "I believe it is important to note. " (for whom?) had written: " I need to ask myself. ".

Ortos
01-28-19, 03:22
I find, that it would have been much easier and clearer, if you, in addition to "I believe it is important to note. " (for whom?) had written: " I need to ask myself. ".Once again: I believe you mis-read / failed to understand the point of my original post. Your complete misinterpretation of "it is important to note" (which is simply a turn of phrase nothing as profound or absorbing as you make it) and "one must ask" (which doesn't mean you actually physically ask anybody) demonstrates that you have little grounding in academic English expressions. I apologize and shall attempt to express important ideas in more simple terms. Live long and prosper.

Now to steer the conversation back to more Informative and Sharks specific matters, here's one important point (completely subjective, of course): whilst the numbers of girls working Sharks these days on peak nights is certainly impressive, the LU on balance is (at least for me) quite mediocre and lack-luster. There are still some "good ole girls" like Mandy and Marlyn and several others still there, but overall I think I've seen better days at Sharks. Anybody else have an opinion on this?

ExpatLover
01-28-19, 03:44
Once again: I believe you mis-read / failed to understand the point of my original post. Your complete misinterpretation of "it is important to note" (which is simply a turn of phrase nothing as profound or absorbing as you make it) and "one must ask" (which doesn't mean you actually physically ask anybody) demonstrates that you have little grounding in academic English expressions. I apologize and shall attempt to express important ideas in more simple terms. Live long and prosper.

Now to steer the conversation back to more Informative and Sharks specific matters, here's one important point (completely subjective, of course): whilst the numbers of girls working Sharks these days on peak nights is certainly impressive, the LU on balance is (at least for me) quite mediocre and lack-luster. There are still some "good ole girls" like Mandy and Marlyn and several others still there, but overall I think I've seen better days at Sharks. Anybody else have an opinion on this?Since 1 year quantity is there but quality not at least for me, I am more and more leaving without any session. In most of the FKK there is a lack of fresh girls entering the job, a lot of veteran around.

Nick The G
01-28-19, 11:10
whilst the numbers of girls working Sharks these days on peak nights is certainly impressive, the LU on balance is (at least for me) quite mediocre and lack-luster. There are still some "good ole girls" like Mandy and Marlyn and several others still there, but overall I think I've seen better days at Sharks. Anybody else have an opinion on this?My opinion: it is important to note (LOL) that most of us have seen better days in our lives than being in a brothel in Germany in January. The "secret life of waves", within us, and around us in our environment, with its ups and downs, needs to be encountered and explored.

With regards to those phenomena, some of us focus their area of research on brothels. And use themselves as "sensors".

Chongmal
01-28-19, 13:51
My opinion: it is important to note (LOL) that most of us have seen better days in our lives than being in a brothel in Germany in January. The "secret life of waves", within us, and around us in our environment, with its ups and downs, needs to be encountered and explored.

With regards to those phenomena, some of us focus their area of research on brothels. And use themselves as "sensors".I would also add to this a theory of normalization. The first time I entered a German brothel, I was overwhelmed by what seemed to be an endless parade of beautiful women. When I returned years later, the women were still beautiful but I noticed that a much higher diversity. Again, years later I experienced the FKK scene for the first time. I was completely overwhelmed with the concept and the ladies I were amazing. Over the years, the frequency of my visits increased. The thing that I've noticed is that I personally have become a bit numb to the women. I don't know that they are any less attractive but I'm less affected by them. My feelings are that my more frequent visits have affected my appetite.

GuyFromParis
01-28-19, 18:42
Now to steer the conversation back to more Informative and Sharks specific matters, here's one important point (completely subjective, of course): whilst the numbers of girls working Sharks these days on peak nights is certainly impressive, the LU on balance is (at least for me) quite mediocre and lack-luster. There are still some "good ole girls" like Mandy and Marlyn and several others still there, but overall I think I've seen better days at Sharks. Anybody else have an opinion on this?I totally agree. Even on October or November, the line-up was better. Last Saturday, too much "Plan B.".

Takedown
01-28-19, 19:07
I would also add to this a theory of normalization. The first time I entered a German brothel, I was overwhelmed by what seemed to be an endless parade of beautiful women. When I returned years later, the women were still beautiful but I noticed that a much higher diversity. Again, years later I experienced the FKK scene for the first time. I was completely overwhelmed with the concept and the ladies I were amazing. Over the years, the frequency of my visits increased. The thing that I've noticed is that I personally have become a bit numb to the women. I don't know that they are any less attractive but I'm less affected by them. My feelings are that my more frequent visits have affected my appetite.Same thoughts here. I will say that after taking a 4 year hiatus I thought the line up at Sharks in 2015 was better than what I saw in any club in my first FKK tour in 2008. Though perhaps that was due to the fact that I was still surrounded by California university girls back then.

ExpatLover
01-28-19, 21:43
I would also add to this a theory of normalization. The first time I entered a German brothel, I was overwhelmed by what seemed to be an endless parade of beautiful women. When I returned years later, the women were still beautiful but I noticed that a much higher diversity. Again, years later I experienced the FKK scene for the first time. I was completely overwhelmed with the concept and the ladies I were amazing. Over the years, the frequency of my visits increased. The thing that I've noticed is that I personally have become a bit numb to the women. I don't know that they are any less attractive but I'm less affected by them. My feelings are that my more frequent visits have affected my appetite.I still have appetite but not for veteran girls who are for 7 years in the job even only 25 YO, but getting fucked 15000+times. Those kind of girls are not my cup of tea, that it is why I never go with Mandy, Brenda, Melania. In most of the clubs it is very difficult to find young and fresh natural beauties.

Nick The G
01-28-19, 22:54
I noticed that I personally became a little bit deaf to the women. I do not know that they are less attractive, but I'm less concerned. My feeling is that my frequent visits have affected my appetite. A well-known phenomenon with regards to consumption of female bodies. In German brothel forums we call it "it has become as exciting as when I order a wheat beer in a pub".

Sirioja
01-28-19, 23:18
Now to steer the conversation back to more Informative and Sharks specific matters, here's one important point (completely subjective, of course): whilst the numbers of girls working Sharks these days on peak nights is certainly impressive, the LU on balance is (at least for me) quite mediocre and lack-luster. There are still some "good ole girls" like Mandy and Marlyn and several others still there, but overall I think I've seen better days at Sharks. Anybody else have an opinion on this?I would have been really happy to answer with my subjective eyes from a different guy who is used to the prettiest girls in any club I visit, I don't agree, but unfortunately, if I found a top class beauty on mid June, if part timer Manou. Ro was a sensitive woman in bed, surprise on July, since then, new Svenja, even friendly, but not a woman yet on September, and I couldn't find any attractive beauty I would pay for on my last visits on November or January. January may not be the best time for best casting, but when I see Asian woman who was already at World when I was not born yet, when I remember past top beauties at Sharks, what is selection now at Sharks?

Chongmal
01-29-19, 07:05
A well-known phenomenon with regards to consumption of female bodies. In German brothel forums we call it "it has become as exciting as when I order a wheat beer in a pub".Nick, I would just like to thank you for changing my quote so it read the way I meant it instead of what I actually wrote. Please forgive my poor manners, it appears that I sat at that table reserved or the regulars by accident again.

I enjoy my visits to Sharks. I would probably o more often if I didn't have to pass so many good clubs to get down there. I like that I never had to wait for a key there, I like how it's set up to help those it a variety of tastes. Management has done a good job with utilizing the space effectively.

After all my visits, I still find Scarlet to be my favorite lady at the club. I thought it would be Zenap until she pulled a super Shark attitude on me. I'm too long in the hobby for that. Deborah was also very nice even though she always sensed quiet and unexcited to be there while she was in the public areas.

CaneUppHosAss
01-29-19, 13:52
Long time at World, blond, named Asian killer? Didn't see her, nor tall model type, blond Sabina. Both average face.

Lack of pretty faces, no elegance nor charm seen at Sharks unfortunately.Subjective tastes. I found a decent selection in my January visit, not unusually bad for this time of the year.

Howie
01-29-19, 20:35
Hi guys,

I am planning to visit Germany next Wednesday. Did any guys could tell me whether Amelia and Elif are present recently? Last time in mid of Nov I couldn't meet them. Many thanks.They are no longer in Germany at the moment. Bad luck.

How keen are you to see them again?

Howie.

Sirioja
01-29-19, 22:22
Subjective tastes. I found a decent selection in my January visit, not unusually bad for this time of the year.Yes subjective tastes and we don't all have same eyes. Agree January is not the best time, beauties are cold, but unfortunately, very average casting at Sharks since June for me. I remember I discovered so fresh and sensitive Sandra. De on January 2015 and also very pretty brunette with ponytail Julia ex World, but it was another time, time of beauties who motivated to spend money for enjoying sex.

CaneUppHosAss
01-30-19, 04:26
If someone makes let's say 200.000 a year, 50 means way less to him than does the hassle and downer of arguing over it. (Though in your case it sounds a straight up scam). And I would also venture to say that a person who is earning that type of money is rarely a fool. (Though exemptions do exist see Trump. Haha).$200 K in NYC is a median salary for a third year banking analyst out of undergrad whereas it is a very senior executive salary for someone located in Indonesia or Turkey. Granted, one has to be bright to be hired as a banking analyst by JP Morgan but comp alone is not a fair measurement of one's intellect.

Another thing I would point out is that younger people with no dependents and no worries about job security can spend much of their income on discretionary things, including mongering. Whereas, someone with a wife and a couple of kids may be constrained in how much he can spend on this hobby even if he is a big earner. It has been said before but $200 K in London or NYC for a family of four gets them just up to middle class life.

HondaFans
01-30-19, 09:44
They are no longer in Germany at the moment. Bad luck.

How keen are you to see them again?

Howie.So disappointed to hear that.

CaneUppHosAss
01-30-19, 10:33
Yes subjective tastes and we don't all have same eyes. Agree January is not the best time, beauties are cold, but unfortunately, very average casting at Sharks since June for me. I remember I discovered so fresh and sensitive Sandra. De on January 2015 and also very pretty brunette with ponytail Julia ex World, but it was another time, time of beauties who motivated to spend money for enjoying sex.Hello Sir,

Thank you for the clarification. You appear to be an experienced monger. I agree Sandra was a nice girl, had fun with her in too many ways to ever forget. So, our tastes do match!

Hugo100
01-30-19, 21:04
They are no longer in Germany at the moment. Bad luck.

How keen are you to see them again?

Howie.I went to the Sharks in December and looked for Elif and Amalia and did not find it. I thought that they are on vacation. In the next few days I fly back to Frankfurt and go to Darmstadt. It seems that Elif and Amalia are not there or not anymore. That would be a pity, because I always had a super time with the two pretty girls. If anyone knows about Elif and Amalia, I thank you for a hint.

Sirioja
01-30-19, 22:36
Hello Sir,

Thank you for the clarification. You appear to be an experienced monger. I agree Sandra was a nice girl, had fun with her in too many ways to ever forget. So, our tastes do match!I'm only me, not a mongering model, but in love for beauty. Sandra was great in bed, but not pretty enough for me and when I saw her going with some guys, I lost desire after less than 4 months and 11 rooms, but a lovely girl. The only girl I forgot her name at the end of our first room, I didn't dare to ask her again, but she smiled to me, so I went to her, she might think I wanted to repeat, then I told her I was very sorry but I forgot her name, then she told me again and said: you forgot me very fast. We had 10 rooms after, once or twice 2 on same day, so sensitive for sex, but lack of dream. I remember her marks on arms and legs, I wish her to feel good with her mind now.