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ExpatLover
07-26-19, 02:16
Do you really believe from Greece? Maybe only for back door? I always thought from Mongolia for face. I thought she got busy business at Sharks, maybe not enough tourists?May be it is true, I was one of her first customer at Shark, we spoke about Athen were she was doing escort, but we all know that never never believe one word from a prostitute if you want to keep safe.
Day 1.
Becky. Ro, slim brunette, short hair, eyes tattooed on upper chest. Good and fair service. BBBJ. 50.
Brenda (yes, it was Brenda I've asked about). Much better than I expected. Started to complain at the end, but it was funny, not annoying. BBBJ. 50.
Lena Ro brunette with silicones + Miruna Alb with flag. Good fun session. BBBJ. 50+50.
Ella. Ro, brunette, doesn't speak English, 19 YO. Zero professionalism but very authentic. It felt like her first time. Somewhat interesting, but almost perverted. BBBJ. 50+50 CIM.
Zeinab was there and mostly available. Esther's new boobs are not exactly beautiful. Surgeon should pay her money back.
Was attacked several times by old lady who looks luke Karl Lagerfeld and Donatella Versace.)Where does stay this Becky? Usually girls stay around same place at Sharks, except marathon woman Sylvana. I saw Sylvana companionship almost whole night, with a bottle, on my last visit, incredible, she must have a secret and I pretty sure she was not for free.
Jimmy Boy 99
07-26-19, 03:46
Sessioned her 1 time, not interesting at all, very pro, very clean may be too clean, she gave me 0 illusion in a 3 hours session. Elektra the other big boobed from Greece is now at Artemis saw her last time, also a no go for me.Why would you spend 3 hours with a someone who is very pro and gives zero illusion?
ExpatLover
07-26-19, 08:15
Why would you spend 3 hours with a someone who is very pro and gives zero illusion?Or I spend 1 minute in the room and leave and of course will never repeat give 50 to the girl, or if I think the chemistry is good and I extend to several hours. I was wrong with Brenda, 3 hours is just the cost of 1 hour escort and also it gives a chance to the girl to really feel comfortable.
I guess many users are going to recommend the obvious good providers at Sharks soon. That is why I will tell you about a hidden gem of mine first, that is rarely talked about on the forums but gives an excellent GFE for 50/30, no matter how long you want to session with her: Eleonora, Romanian, very small, black hair, sits at the first spot on the couch left of the stairs to the jacuzzis. She is very charming, funny and easy to talk to, especially once you get to know her. She is already in her late twenties and her body cannot compete with the top beauties of the club, but her service is really top notch.
Also I have always received good service from Sidonia (Ro, blonde, middle of bar next to the restaurant area), Zeynep (who you mentioned), Elena (Ro, dark brown hair, sits on the couch under the fishtank), Anja / Mirona (Albanian flag tattoo between her shoulder plates, sits on the couch opposite of the pole by the entrance or at one of the casino machines). They all provide good service for 50/30 in my experience.
More expensive girls who I can recommend. If you want to spend that much- are Melissa (tall, red hair, great beauty, you cannot miss her) and Bella (Ro, black hair, tanned skin, sits opposite to the stairs to jacuzzi and opposite to fishtank) who both provide good service for 100/30 or 150/60.
These recommendations are of course only based on my personal experiences with the girls. You might not get the same experience, if the chemistry between you does not fit or maybe they do not fit your beauty criterias anyway. Have fun!Did Eleanor improve for kissing? Like a little girl when she just arrived, I would say on 2017. Lack of aura, not woman behavior in bed and nothing about height, but not interesting for me. Elena under fish, has beautiful eyes, smiling, but what about body always under towel, silicon? At least we can see Karin beautiful natural tits, even she hides her curvy woman popo.
Nick The G
07-26-19, 09:45
Esther's new boobs are not exactly beautiful. Surgeon should pay her money back.I support this observation!
My observation: in many cases, when girls get new boobs (often enhanced beyond good proportions), the rest of the body parts say (and do): we want to get bigger too!
Was attacked several times by old lady who looks like Karl Lagerfeld and Donatella Versace.)Her name: Silvana, sometimes Donatella (in other places).
AlexEurope
07-26-19, 10:12
I support this observation!
My observation: in many cases, when girls get new boobs (often enhanced beyond good proportions), the rest of the body parts say (and do): we want to get bigger too!.Esther actually lost 2-3 kilos since I saw her in May, but boobs shape is a huge mistake. Looks like someone was training on her with no success. She needs ones like Jessica has for example. Also her lips are bigger than before and she probably lost one of her upper teeth as much as I had a chance to see during small chat.
Still I somewhat like her. She's originally beautiful and it's not entirely spoiled yet.
ExpatLover
07-26-19, 11:28
I support this observation!
My observation: in many cases, when girls get new boobs (often enhanced beyond good proportions), the rest of the body parts say (and do): we want to get bigger too!
Her name: Silvana, sometimes Donatella (in other places).Most of the times the sili boobs are not looking natural, also not stable in the time and when you touch them it is terrible at least for me, I never session a girl with sili, botox, hair extension.
ExpatLover
07-26-19, 11:31
Sylvana, sometimes Donatella.
Terrible experience to get hunt by her, she looks like a grandma and even for 1000+ euros I will never even kiss or touch her. I think she worked in all the clubs in Germany, a real erotic killer.
HessenStud
07-26-19, 13:07
After a mind blowing, 3 h (very expensive!) escort booking in my hotel room on Saturday evening, which kept a smile on my face for many hours after that, I woke up on Sunday morning with the hitch to go over to Darmstadt again and pay Sharks crowd a new visit.
I arrived at Sharks at 13:56, so I only paid 50 E for the entrance. LU wasn't as good as on Wednesday, but the club was rather full of mongers. So, even average girls managed to get a few zimmers! I have seen Sylvana doing at least three sessions. Unbelievable, I know, but we are living in a Trump & Brexit crazy times after all!
Theodora (Ro) - Started my day with a session with blonde, white skin, nice tits, Theodora (Ro), relatively new at Sharks and previously worked in Stuttgart. She is not a top beauty, but I wasn't looking for that as I had a perfect beauty the day before in my room. Theodora is very sweet and she also has nice eyes and natural nice boobs. CBJ only on the menu, but I was ok with it. Lovely session overall (50 E 30 min)..Hi Rocky,
Thanks for the report on Sharks. Your writings are always very informative. But I was more tingling with your short mention from this expensive escort. Do you mind telling us more about this escort here or somewhere else in the Frankfurt part on this forum? Where could we find her?
Thanks in advance!
Hessenstud.
CharlieHarper4
07-26-19, 16:07
Did Eleanor improve for kissing? Like a little girl when she just arrived, I would say on 2017. Lack of aura, not woman behavior in bed and nothing about height, but not interesting for me. Elena under fish, has beautiful eyes, smiling, but what about body always under towel, silicon? At least we can see Karin beautiful natural tits, even she hides her curvy woman popo.Eleonora: I like her kissing a lot. But I guess it depends on the guy. So I would say, if she doesn't know you well, it might not be different than what you experienced before.
Elena: no silicone that I know of. Would have to be a very recent operation. No idea why she wears the towel.
Eleonora: I like her kissing a lot. But I guess it depends on the guy. So I would say, if she doesn't know you well, it might not be different than what you experienced before.
Elena: no silicone that I know of. Would have to be a very recent operation. No idea why she wears the towel.I'm not sure we speak about same way and level for kissing, I don't enjoy Romanian baby kisses, I enjoy woman behavior and sensuality. For sure, not firm body for Elena even maybe the prettiest face at Sharks for me. Her face on Melissa body with Angela behavior and Marina vagina would be attractive and interesting in bed, with a bit of chic and charm learned.
May be it is true, I was one of her first customer at Shark, we spoke about Athen were she was doing escort, but we all know that never never believe one word from a prostitute if you want to keep safe.More escorting than born as Aphrodite. I had for weekly regular for months at LR and she always chose me first, but a queen of lies, even honest about money and real pleasure in bed.
ExpatLover
07-26-19, 18:57
Hi Rocky,
Thanks for the report on Sharks. Your writings are always very informative. But I was more tingling with your short mention from this expensive escort. Do you mind telling us more about this escort here or somewhere else in the Frankfurt part on this forum? Where could we find her?
Thanks in advance!
Hessenstud.So many escort agencies in F or you just have a look on Kaufmich, you just have to call them or send a message, so easy make your own experience and don't be a follower.
AlexEurope
07-26-19, 21:55
Day 2.
Hot and lazy day on the poolside, mostly watching Albana / Miruna and her friends playing in water.
Surprisingly only 1 session.
Sia, Albanian, lots of tattoos (mostly with F*CK YOU writings). Lots of piercings. Brunette with great body and face. Bad facial skin. In essence, 100% "Bad girl" porno look. I don't like bad facial skin but couldn't resist the overall temptation.
100/30, but was worth it. Would probably repeat.
Lady with Karl Lagerfeld look was all over the place again for a whole day. Lot of energy.
Most of the times the sili boobs are not looking natural, also not stable in the time and when you touch them it is terrible at least for me, I never session a girl with sili, botox, hair extension.For who knows a bit about Sharks History, among a far higher level casting than now, on 2014, with her beautiful small tits, Roxana was a superstar, she was my first Sharks girl, before Dina, Andrea. Bu, Cosmina, Marina, Jana. Hu later. After silicon, she became less busy, really not busy on August 2017 among a great casting at Wellcum. At. I always told to Megan: You don't need silicon. Good point she can't do at Globe, she would be fired, and she really doesn't need.
HessenStud
07-27-19, 11:36
You are right with Kaufmich. But escort is not a normal WG in FKK (50 Euro per try), a stunning escort would charge at least 150 Euro, and no guarantee from the service quality f. Mr. Rocky spent 3 hours with lady and was quite happy with her, I would say this lady must be an angel, we don't have to take the risk to try others, let alone the saving of money and time. Hope Mr. Rocky can share some details about that experience here or on the panel for Frankfurt on this forum.
So many escort agencies in F or you just have a look on Kaufmich, you just have to call them or send a message, so easy make your own experience and don't be a follower.
AlexEurope
07-27-19, 19:17
Day 3.
1. Vanessa Ro, tall brunette, long hair, 21 YO. 100/30.
Not worth 100 at all. Even tried to start BJ with condom. Usual 50 Eur service for 100. No regrets as I liked the optics, but can't recommend her.
2. Miina Ro + Inca Ro. I had both before, but as both of them remind me my ex-girlfriends, I found it funny to combine them. Good session with lots of stand-up comedy from Miina (as always).
3. Sia dirty looking Ro again. 100/30.
Good session that was unfortunately spoiled by broken condom which I didn't notice right away but only after a while. Having this happening in the club is a nightmare. Having this happening with dirtiest looking girl in the club doesn't make it any better.
I peed several times in a short time, I washed, but I don't know how much it can help if girl has some really bad disease.
I really hope these girls are testing their health often and I really hope I will not die from something terrible as a result.
Most of the times the sili boobs are not looking natural, also not stable in the time and when you touch them it is terrible at least for me, I never session a girl with sili, botox, hair extension.The worst part about sili boobs is that the girls don't like them to be molested which I like to do.
YellowFin Tuna
07-28-19, 08:57
Day 3.
3. Sia dirty looking Ro again. 100/30.
Good session that was unfortunately spoiled by broken condom which I didn't notice right away but only after a while. Having this happening in the club is a nightmare. Having this happening with dirtiest looking girl in the club doesn't make it any better.
I peed several times in a short time, I washed, but I don't know how much it can help if girl has some really bad disease.
I really hope these girls are testing their health often and I really hope I will not die from something terrible as a result.Ouch! Not fun. I know what that feels like. I had a broken condom incident at Sharks a couple of years ago, the girl got very upset and claimed I had done it on purpose. I calmed her down. Worried a bit afterwards, then went and took all the tests. Luckily I hadn't caught anything.
I recommend you not to worry, but also definitely to go and get tested for STDs to be completely safe. The risk is small. Just take the tests so that you can relax and forget about it. You will be fine!
Day 3.
Good session that was unfortunately spoiled by broken condom which I didn't notice right away but only after a while. Having this happening in the club is a nightmare. Having this happening with dirtiest looking girl in the club doesn't make it any better.
I peed several times in a short time, I washed, but I don't know how much it can help if girl has some really bad disease.
I really hope these girls are testing their health often and I really hope I will not die from something terrible as a result.Alex,
Calm down and get fully tested in about a week and then again after three months, for your peace of mind. In Germany regular health checks are not enforced by the authorities and I know for a fact that many girls in the clubs are not even registered. Most of the STDs, however, are easily treatable if diagnosed early.
Once and old monger told me not to go with girls, who frequently touch their pussies as itching can be a sign of infection or poor hygiene. He also told me to have a look at the colour of their pussies before the session. If pink it is probably safe, if very red it can be a sign of infection or overfucking!
Stay safe! Rock.
MikeTk1974
07-28-19, 14:44
Sessioned her 1 time, not interesting at all, very pro, very clean may be too clean, she gave me 0 illusion in a 3 hours session. Elektra the other big boobed from Greece is now at Artemis saw her last time, also a no go for me.http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3225-FKK-Sharks-Darmstadt&p=2060940&viewfull=1#post2060940.
Haha IMHO I recommend her back to the escort world for easy money from tourists. She had worked as an escort in UK.
FKK land maybe a hard place for some optics.
Cool I think never meet her in Artemis. In 2nd Mon of Jun, I visited this big house and not find her. The rooms have no light at least. Darker than Paradise. Why I paid this dark tax for my optics sex?
Anyway I had some outdoor houses with her in 2017 & 2018 summer. In 2017 she had just worked in Sharks around 3 months. She could offer BBBJ and CIM for 150 E. Sadly clean. No DATY. No kiss. Talkative.
In 2018 she became very very clean. Cool. Not nice. A 100 E short house for her optics. No BBBJ offered. My FKK spec is any lookalike thick hourglass with great natural boobs in cheap fuck rate.
If she could really offer HQ escort services, I may pay like other hot escorts toured in HK.
ExpatLover
07-28-19, 17:42
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3225-FKK-Sharks-Darmstadt&p=2060940&viewfull=1#post2060940.
Haha IMHO I recommend her back to the escort world for easy money from tourists. She had worked as an escort in UK.
FKK land maybe a hard place for some optics.
Cool I think never meet her in Artemis. In 2nd Mon of Jun, I visited this big house and not find her. The rooms have no light at least. Darker than Paradise. Why I paid this dark tax for my optics sex?
Anyway I had some outdoor houses with her in 2017 & 2018 summer. In 2017 she had just worked in Sharks around 3 months. She could offer BBBJ and CIM for 150 E. Sadly clean. No DATY. No kiss. Talkative.
In 2018 she became very very clean. Cool. Not nice. A 100 E short house for her optics. No BBBJ offered. My FKK spec is any lookalike thick hourglass with great natural boobs in cheap fuck rate.
If she could really offer HQ escort services, I may pay like other hot escorts toured in HK.Usually she was also not working on Monday at Shark.
YellowFin Tuna
07-29-19, 00:00
The day after my visit to The Palace I chose to go to Sharks, simply because it was a Sunday and I thought the larger club would give me more options.
When I arrived at 7 pm I felt the mood was kind of low, not many smiling faces and everyone looked tired. This was temporary though, as the hours went by more people arrived and the place became more lively. There was a good number of girls present but, as has been the case every time that I visited Sharks, most were Romanians who were not to my taste. I agree with Sirioja, that the girls at The Palace are a bit more classy on average. That said, I saw at least one beauty; a tall blonde with a sad and bored look. Sadly, I spotted her just before I needed to leave.
Only had one session, with little Ada from Romania. Glasses, good looking silicone tits, a cheeky smile and a good attitude. She remembered me from a previous visit when we talked for a long time. Some language difficulties, but hey, those tits more than compensated for that. I was in the pool when she spotted me and after just a few words I felt a submarine threat approaching. It was my periscope which threatened to rise. To avoid embarrassment (there was a German gentleman in the pool too) I decided to act pre-emptively before onset of glorious erection, and rushed up from the water and took little Ada to one of the little huts on the upper floor.
The sexytime was better than anticipated; she began by pouring oil over her big tits and I helped her oil them up real good. She then introduced my friend to the oiled-up twins and BJ etc followed. Very nice start. Her pussy was very good looking and felt great too. It got quite intense for a while when we kissed as I pounded her in missionary and I left the room with a big smile on my face.
It seems as if the girls are gossiping like crazy about guys in the club, apparently they talked about me as the hopeless guy who is not interested in sex. Yeah right. What do they expect? Me fucking all girls in the club? Ridiculous. Of course I need to deny all girls except the ones I decide to go with. I am trying to say no in nice ways but that seems to irritate them, but the problem is that being direct with them has the same effect. Clearly I need to work on the development of a more effective shark repellent!
It was a Sunday so there were less girls and visitors than on Saturdays, no surprise there. Still a good number of girls, but for my taste the quality was so-so. Only a handful of girls in the whole club were interesting for me. Poor shark-to-hottie ratio. Still, I understand why Sharks is popular and I will come back for more in the near future.
LaBambaBoy
07-29-19, 01:37
The day after my visit to The Palace I chose to go to Sharks, simply because it was a Sunday and I thought the larger club would give me more options.
When I arrived at 7 pm I felt the mood was kind of low, not many smiling faces and everyone looked tired. This was temporary though, as the hours went by more people arrived and the place became more lively. There was a good number of girls present but, as has been the case every time that I visited Sharks, most were Romanians who were not to my taste. I agree with Sirioja, that the girls at The Palace are a bit more classy on average. That said, I saw at least one beauty; a tall blonde with a sad and bored look. Sadly, I spotted her just before I needed to leave..Good report dude.
I wonder if that is the same Ada I saw on my first trip to sharks, over a year ago. She was pretty low energy in the room then, but very friendly. If so, glad to hear she has figured things out.
The day after my visit to The Palace I chose to go to Sharks, simply because it was a Sunday and I thought the larger club would give me more options.
When I arrived at 7 pm I felt the mood was kind of low, not many smiling faces and everyone looked tired. This was temporary though, as the hours went by more people arrived and the place became more lively. There was a good number of girls present but, as has been the case every time that I visited Sharks, most were Romanians who were not to my taste. I agree with Sirioja, that the girls at The Palace are a bit more classy on average. That said, I saw at least one beauty; a tall blonde with a sad and bored look. Sadly, I spotted her just before I needed to leave..With entry 50 before 2 pm on Sunday, Sharks used to be quite crowded at 2 pm on Sunday, but maybe holidays time or rain like in Hockenheim ring on south, and also unfortunately real lack of chic and charm for casting, yes more elegance and charm at Palace, and these girls don't worth same rate for me. I would be so happy to find only one chic and what I call GFE, beauty at Sharks which is a good club for me, with a beautiful garden and good breakfast. Time is long since last on June 2018. Maybe after my holidays when Swiss quality or Wellcum. At will be closer.
HeadFirst80
07-29-19, 11:41
After reading great reviews here, paid visit last week to the place. Wend during weekday early afternoon. Place is clean and very nice. It was quite busy also both indoor and outdoor. Good thing was there were a lot of girls there. Went with petite Romanian (name escapes me) but I think she is the only one with small tits (which I like).
Went for an hour, she was very GFE, very tight, allowed 2 shots which I was surprised that I was able to do. Will repeat next week if time permits.
Good report dude.
I wonder if that is the same Ada I saw on my first trip to sharks, over a year ago. She was pretty low energy in the room then, but very friendly. If so, glad to hear she has figured things out.There was very slim, but not so small, 1,65, Ada, friend with Diana who had superb pear shape natural tits. This Ada is back.
WetWetWet18
07-29-19, 21:52
Great, you are going to FKK Sharks or Oase. I'm Asian American too.
I live on the West Coast and use to go to Tijuana, Mexico, a lot. However, going to Tijuana, can be a little dangerous and you never know what you are going to get. Also, you have to pay the girl before you have sex. Many women have had babies and might find a big see section scar or some other distraction.
Frankfurt FKK clubs are like going go the Playboy mansion except you encounter 100+ beautiful totally nude women that want you to spend money on them. The women range from a few totally awesome stunners to many girl next door.
Because you speak English, you will not have any problems communicating. Most of the women speak English well. You are a magnet because you are Asian, the girl especially if she is blonde will think you will go crazy for her and spend extra money on her.Thank you to all who gave me great advice! I'm excited to go in August! It' sounds like its going to be a lot of fun and very expensive. I'm seeing that your going to spend 100 30 minutes every time?
Do the girls allow 2 shots if you paid for an hour but finish in like 15 minutes? Haha how does that work? If you finish then your times up? Or do you get to go until the time over?
I can't figure out if I want to go with that FKK tour or do it myself with my 2 buddies.
And where is the best place to stay if I'm staying in F for 2 nights?
Thanks everyone!
TankTank123
07-29-19, 23:44
There was very slim, but not so small, 1,65, Ada, friend with Diana who had superb pear shape natural tits. This Ada is back.Is the Ada who is back the one who went to History? That one was very slim, but about 1.70 rather than 1.65, and with sharp canines.
Is the Ada who is back the one who went to History? That one was very slim, but about 1.68 rather than 1.65, and with sharp canines.Yes, I saw her not long ago, I think beginning of July, but no Diana. I meant height bare feet. Also saw previous Cosmina.
TurdyCurdyOne
07-30-19, 01:33
Thank you to all who gave me great advice! I'm excited to go in August! It' sounds like its going to be a lot of fun and very expensive. I'm seeing that your going to spend 100 30 minutes every time?
Do the girls allow 2 shots if you paid for an hour but finish in like 15 minutes? Haha how does that work? If you finish then your times up? Or do you get to go until the time over?
I can't figure out if I want to go with that FKK tour or do it myself with my 2 buddies.
And where is the best place to stay if I'm staying in F for 2 nights?
Thanks everyone!Can anyone who has recently been to FKK clubs please advise me. Do any of them do much to guarantee a GFE instead of a business transaction with their workers?
Once control passes to a third party you lose your ability to weed out hard core girls and girls who just want to take your money with no good service needed.
Thank you to all who gave me great advice! I'm excited to go in August! It' sounds like its going to be a lot of fun and very expensive.
And where is the best place to stay if I'm staying in F for 2 nights?
Thanks everyone!If you are going to sharks, Maritim hotel or best western are great as they are close to the railways station and 12 euro Uber to sharks.
If you go to Oase, Mercury hotel are another that starts with a are good.
ExpatLover
07-30-19, 04:14
If you are going to sharks, Maritim hotel or best western are great as they are close to the railways station and 12 euro Uber to sharks.
If you go to Oase, Mercury hotel are another that starts with a are good.You can also stay in b&b Darmstadt, clean simple Hotel with great WiFi, near the railway station and very easy to walk to the club, for Oase I usually stay in be&be F North also at walkable distance to the club. All be&be hotels have A / C.
NightRider16
07-30-19, 05:12
After reading great reviews here, paid visit last week to the place. Wend during weekday early afternoon. Place is clean and very nice. It was quite busy also both indoor and outdoor. Good thing was there were a lot of girls there. Went with petite Romanian (name escapes me) but I think she is the only one with small tits (which I like).
Went for an hour, she was very GFE, very tight, allowed 2 shots which I was surprised that I was able to do. Will repeat next week if time permits.Sounds like Jennifer; long blonde hair, always wears a towel.
If you are going to sharks, Maritim hotel or best western are great as they are close to the railways station and 12 euro Uber to sharks.
If you go to Oase, Mercury hotel are another that starts with a are good.Closest for Sharks is Contel Hotel, about 300 meters, can just walk 3 mn. I
Can anyone who has recently been to FKK clubs please advise me. Do any of them do much to guarantee a GFE instead of a business transaction with their workers?
Once control passes to a third party you lose your ability to weed out hard core girls and girls who just want to take your money with no good service needed.Many of your answers are in the posts under various 'clubs' if you just read through a bit. Basically NO! No one ever guarantees anything, even with a girl who has a great review. It's always YMMV based on how her day went, who the last guy was, and how YOU act. I posted on Coliseum my beginngers report.
1) 3 guys who are "newbies" are like chum to sharks. On the one hand, you have a sidekick to help you deflect the bad and someone to talk to when you can't decide why every girl in the club thinks you guys are easy marks. Clubs like Augsburg's Coliseum don't allow girls to approach guys so at least from that perspective- you can stand at the bar with 2 other guys and debate which girl to go up and talk to.
2). $$ €€ There's a lot of info on what you'd pay if you (again) read the reports. Even in clubs where the guys report MSOG there are girls who just don't care? If you book 30 minutes, you'll be one and done. For an hour, you can suppose if you start quick (or better end quickly), the girl expects you to try a second. If you go on a Saturday night, expect she's trying to move you out and get to the next wallet.
3) Negotiate, negotiate, negotiate. If you want multiple, and you want kissing, and you want (ask before you go up to the room. You are more likely to get it on a week day if the club is slow. Rather than at peak time.
And most important.
45) when you come back, tell us what you found out.
Thank you to all who gave me great advice! I'm excited to go in August! It' sounds like its going to be a lot of fun and very expensive. I'm seeing that your going to spend 100 30 minutes every time?
Do the girls allow 2 shots if you paid for an hour but finish in like 15 minutes? Haha how does that work? If you finish then your times up? Or do you get to go until the time over?
I can't figure out if I want to go with that FKK tour or do it myself with my 2 buddies.
And where is the best place to stay if I'm staying in F for 2 nights?
Thanks everyone!Only two nights in Frankfurt, I will stay close to central main train station where you can go to both Oase and Sharks by train. Just need to get train schedule though.
AlexEurope
07-30-19, 19:15
Closest for Sharks is Contel Hotel, about 300 meters, can just walk 3 mn. IKeep in mind it has no A/C and is extremely overpriced considering the overall level. Breakfast is ridiculous. Been there, will only repeat if no other options are available.
I would definitely recommend Hotel Jagdschloss Kranichstein. Nice place to stay, same price level as Contel, great breakfast, taxi to Sharks is 15-20 EUR. Whole different experience comparing to Contel where you feel you are living in Bosnia.
ExpatLover
07-31-19, 04:40
Keep in mind it has no A/C and is extremely overpriced considering the overall level. Breakfast is ridiculous. Been there, will only repeat if no other options are available.
I would definitely recommend Hotel Jagdschloss Kranichstein. Nice place to stay, same price level as Contel, great breakfast, taxi to Sharks is 15-20 EUR. Whole different experience comparing to Contel where you feel you are living in Bosnia.Comtel is a bad hotel, I guy told me the went bankrupt, com nothing positive to stay there again completely outdated, overpriced.
Thank you to all who gave me great advice! I'm excited to go in August! It' sounds like its going to be a lot of fun and very expensive. I'm seeing that your going to spend 100 30 minutes every time?
Do the girls allow 2 shots if you paid for an hour but finish in like 15 minutes? Haha how does that work? If you finish then your times up? Or do you get to go until the time over?
I can't figure out if I want to go with that FKK tour or do it myself with my 2 buddies.
And where is the best place to stay if I'm staying in F for 2 nights?
Thanks everyone!Asian Bruddah,
The rate is 50 Euro for 30 minutes. The Standard service is blow job with condom and intercourse with condom. Some girls will give you a blow job without condom and intercourse with condom. Some guys prefer blow job with condom because they don't want a chance catch anything. They maybe married or it is just their preference. Talk to the girl and ask her what service she will provide before you go to the room.
If the girl is very attractive or high demand, she may want 100 Euro for 30 minutes for Standard service.
Usually, 100 Euro will get you 60 minutes. The girl will usually provide blow job without condom, kissing (sometimes deep French kissing), sometimes licking your balls and 69 then intercourse with condom. Talk to the girl and ask her what service she will provide before you go to the room.
If you think you will cum quickly, I would only look for a girl that will be okay with 50 Euro for 30 minutes. Most girls will only allow you to cum Once. You should plan on having sex with 3 girls. 150 - 300 Euros. Best deal in the World.
The rule is: If you paid for 30 minutes of time, you are entitled to that. German's are sticklers about rules however it's up to you. If the girl is a hustler, after you cum, she will try to get you out of the room quickly. If you spent some time talking with her in advance and she enjoys your company, she may spend the rest of the time giving you a massage.
Since this will be your first time at FKK, when the Receptionist asks, "Is this your first time, Say YES. " She will tell you the rate for sex. She will tell you about the bracelet with the key. At Sharks, the bracelet has RFD to track if you buy a beer or other alcohol drink. Then she will have someone show you the small locker for your wallet and take you to the main locker area for you to change and shower. When the working girl asks you, "Is this your first time, Say, "You have been to many FKK. " Then ask, "How long have you been working here?
NOTE: Once you are in the room, Before you start having sex, look at your watch and know the time you start! That way will know how much time you've spent with her when you cum. I've had a few girls try to scam me. One terrible girl I should not have picked told me we I was in the room for 40 minutes. She must've thought I was FOB, (fresh off the boat). I told her, "I Know I have spent 20 minutes in the room. " "I looked at my watch when we started. " I was mad but I told myself, "Cut your loss. " Then she got scared and asked me if I was going to complain to management at the front desk. I just gave her 50 euros at the wallet locker and walked away.
As the other guys have written, don't be in rush to pick a girl. Enjoy talking to the girls, eat some food, enjoy the jacuzzi, swimming pool and sauna. There will be other guys that speak English and trade stories.
FKK in Frankfurt is not hard to navigate. All the Frankfurt taxi drivers can drive to FKK Sharks, Oase, Mainhattan and Palace from 20-50 Euros (one way). You don't need to go with FKK tour. FKK tour is not Cheap.
I like to sleep in Frankfurt near the train station. I have stayed at Frankfurt hostel and Five Element hostel for $20 a night. Check Expedia and book your hotel online. Not fun to be jet lagged and cannot find a room. If you are with your friends, get a room with 2-3 beds. A single room will cost about $45-65 per night. When you share your room, it will be cheaper.
The clubs open at 11 AM. Try to get the Oase or Sharks around 1 PM and leave the club around 9-10 PM. The slowest days are Monday and Tuesday. Tuesday is Bikini day at Sharks and Thursday at Oase. The rest of the week the girls are totally nude in the club. Once at Oase, the weather was very warm at night and it was the prefect party atmosphere in the swimming pool. I did not want to go to back to Frankfurt so I stayed all Night until 5 AM. I took the train back then. I was very tired but I had a Big Smile on my face.
https://www.rmv.de/auskunft/bin/jp/query.exe/en
RMV is the local Frankfurt train website. Use it to go between Frankfurt Airport and Frankfurt Main train station, Friedrichsdorf train station (Oase) and Darmstadt train station (Sharks).
Have fun!
Comtel is a bad hotel, I guy told me the went bankrupt, com nothing positive to stay there again completely outdated, overpriced.Stayed there on night. Totally waste. I always stay in Maritim near train station. Although it looks outdated outside, but it is pretty new inside.
Asian Bruddah,
The rate is 50 Euro for 30 minutes. The Standard service is blow job with condom and intercourse with condom. Some girls will give you a blow job without condom and intercourse with condom. Some guys prefer blow job with condom because they don't want a chance catch anything. They maybe married or it is just their preference. Talk to the girl and ask her what service she will provide before you go to the room.
If the girl is very attractive or high demand, she may want 100 Euro for 30 minutes for Standard service.
Usually, 100 Euro will get you 60 minutes. The girl will usually provide blow job without condom, kissing (sometimes deep French kissing), sometimes licking your balls and 69 then intercourse with condom. Talk to the girl and ask her what service she will provide before you go to the room.
If you think you will cum quickly, I would only look for a girl that will be okay with 50 Euro for 30 minutes. Most girls will only allow you to cum Once. You should plan on having sex with 3 girls. 150 - 300 Euros. Best deal in the World.
The rule is: If you paid for 30 minutes of time, you are entitled to that. German's are sticklers about rules however it's up to you. If the girl is a hustler, after you cum, she will try to get you out of the room quickly. If you spent some time talking with her in advance and she enjoys your company, she may spend the rest of the time giving you a massage.From my experience, natural BJ remain quite standard without upselling at Sharks or Oase or World.
Asian Bruddah,
The rate is 50 Euro for 30 minutes. The Standard service is blow job with condom and intercourse with condom. Some girls will give you a blow job without condom and intercourse with condom. Some guys prefer blow job with condom because they don't want a chance catch anything. They maybe married or it is just their preference. Talk to the girl and ask her what service she will provide before you go to the room.
If the girl is very attractive or high demand, she may want 100 Euro for 30 minutes for Standard service.
Usually, 100 Euro will get you 60 minutes. The girl will usually provide blow job without condom, kissing (sometimes deep French kissing), sometimes licking your balls and 69 then intercourse with condom. Talk to the girl and ask her what service she will provide before you go to the room.
If you think you will cum quickly, I would only look for a girl that will be okay with 50 Euro for 30 minutes. Most girls will only allow you to cum Once. You should plan on having sex with 3 girls. 150 - 300 Euros. Best deal in the World.
The rule is: If you paid for 30 minutes of time, you are entitled to that. German's are sticklers about rules however it's up to you. If the girl is a hustler, after you cum, she will try to get you out of the room quickly. If you spent some time talking with her in advance and she enjoys your company, she may spend the rest of the time giving you a massage.I forgot to the Add, the Upsell: 50 euro if you cum in her mouth, face or body. 100 euro if you do anal sex.
Have fun and write your report.
Member #4636
08-01-19, 05:28
Asian Bruddah,
The rate is 50 Euro for 30 minutes. The Standard service is blow job with condom and intercourse with condom. Some girls will give you a blow job without condom and intercourse with condom. Some guys prefer blow job with condom because they don't want a chance catch anything. They maybe married or it is just their preference. Talk to the girl and ask her what service she will provide before you go to the room.
If the girl is very attractive or high demand, she may want 100 Euro for 30 minutes for Standard service.
Usually, 100 Euro will get you 60 minutes. The girl will usually provide blow job without condom, kissing (sometimes deep French kissing), sometimes licking your balls and 69 then intercourse with condom. Talk to the girl and ask her what service she will provide before you go to the room.
If you think you will cum quickly, I would only look for a girl that will be okay with 50 Euro for 30 minutes. Most girls will only allow you to cum Once. You should plan on having sex with 3 girls. 150 - 300 Euros. Best deal in the World.
The rule is: If you paid for 30 minutes of time, you are entitled to that. German's are sticklers about rules however it's up to you. If the girl is a hustler, after you cum, she will try to get you out of the room quickly. If you spent some time talking with her in advance and she enjoys your company, she may spend the rest of the time giving you a massage.
Since this will be your first time at FKK, when the Receptionist asks, "Is this your first time, Say YES. " She will tell you the rate for sex. She will tell you about the bracelet with the key. At Sharks, the bracelet has RFD to track if you buy a beer or other alcohol drink. Then she will have someone show you the small locker for your wallet and take you to the main locker area for you to change and shower. When the working girl asks you, "Is this your first time, Say, "You have been to many FKK. " Then ask, "How long have you been working here?
NOTE: Once you are in the room, Before you start having sex, look at your watch and know the time you start! That way will know how much time you've spent with her when you cum. I've had a few girls try to scam me. One terrible girl I should not have picked told me we I was in the room for 40 minutes. She must've thought I was FOB, (fresh off the boat). I told her, "I Know I have spent 20 minutes in the room. " "I looked at my watch when we started. " I was mad but I told myself, "Cut your loss. " Then she got scared and asked me if I was going to complain to management at the front desk. I just gave her 50 euros at the wallet locker and walked away.I think this is an excellent report for first time visitors and should be sticky somewhere.
Well done, congrats!
I just want to add that I don't recommend threesome. Many girls will come holding hand each other and seduce you to take both. Every time I try it one of the girls is not experienced and she is new. Usually one experienced cat brings in the new pussy to show her how the job is done and help her on her first steps. How sweet!
It ends up to a waste of money.
Also something else very important.
Depending if you are a day guy or a night guy organise the time of your visit. If you never stay awake from 1. Am - 5 am don't expect to go there and rabbit fuck at 3 am with the girls.
Stayed there on night. Totally waste. I always stay in Maritim near train station. Although it looks outdated outside, but it is pretty new inside.Absolutely true. Terrible service, terrible facility with no A/C and no Fan. Beds are so soft that I was in a great deal of pain when I got up from the bed in the morning.
But, it is really nice to get from there to sharks in the morning. Location is perfect!
Was in Sharks on Tuesday this week for a relaxed time at the pool and to see my favourites before they go into summer vacation. The club was quite and the atmosphere relaxed as can be expected for a Tuesday.
Had two sessions, with Zeynep and Edina. Zeynep gave me a good time with her sweetness. We stayed outside in one of the beds with curtains which are a good place with the warm weather. Zeynep recovered from some hard time she had and provided the services I like from her, so we spent longer together.
Fun was the performance after midnight when a girls birthday started and her friends brought a pro stripper to the club for her. Girls were excited.
BarryManila
08-01-19, 19:58
Had two sessions, with Zeynep and Edina. Zeynep gave me a good time with her sweetness.Did you get kisses from Zeynep?
From my experience, natural BJ remain quite standard without upselling at Sharks or Oase or World.Sirioja,
You are very experienced and with many women. You can tell just by watching the woman walk, talk and her body language.
I only wanted to provide general information for newbies since the Law was changed in 2017.
Aloha.
I think this is an excellent report for first time visitors and should be sticky somewhere.
Well done, congrats!
I just want to add that I don't recommend threesome. Many girls will come holding hand each other and seduce you to take both. Every time I try it one of the girls is not experienced and she is new. Usually one experienced cat brings in the new pussy to show her how the job is done and help her on her first steps. How sweet!
It ends up to a waste of money.
Also something else very important.
Depending if you are a day guy or a night guy organise the time of your visit. If you never stay awake from 1. Am - 5 am don't expect to go there and rabbit fuck at 3 am with the girls.Pks,
Thanks for the acknowledgment.
Aloha.
TankTank123
08-01-19, 23:42
But, it is really nice to get from there to sharks in the morning. Location is perfect!Even nicer to be able to stumble back to Contel after a long night, and plop into bed within 8 minutes from leaving Sharks.
TankTank123
08-01-19, 23:43
Did you get kisses from Zeynep?I did not get any because I refused to pay 50 euros more.
Did you get kisses from Zeynep?Why do you ask about that?
Zeynep does kiss. I have been with her at least 5 times and kissing has never been a problem. She is a sweet and pretty girl, very much worth a session. Highly recommended. That said, I can't guarantee she kisses in a 50 E session — all my rooms were of the 100 E for 60 M variety.
..........had two sessions, with Zeynep and Edina. Could you share your experience with Edina, please?
WorldPeaceNow
08-02-19, 12:38
Zeynep does kiss. I have been with her at least 5 times and kissing has never been a problem. She is a sweet and pretty girl, very much worth a session. Highly recommended. That said, I can't guarantee she kisses in a 50 E session all my rooms were of the 100 E for 60 M variety.Hey Pessimist,
Could you please share where she sits and perhaps a bit of her physical description? I have heard so much about her and I'm a bit surprised I still haven't met her.
PPan31: what summer vacation were you referring to?
I should be arriving in Frankfurt by August 26th for a week.
Should I be expecting an upcoming vacation and a poor LU?
Was in Sharks on Tuesday this week for a relaxed time at the pool and to see my favourites before they go into summer vacation. The club was quite and the atmosphere relaxed as can be expected for a Tuesday.
Had two sessions, with Zeynep and Edina. Zeynep gave me a good time with her sweetness. We stayed outside in one of the beds with curtains which are a good place with the warm weather. Zeynep recovered from some hard time she had and provided the services I like from her, so we spent longer together.
Fun was the performance after midnight when a girls birthday started and her friends brought a pro stripper to the club for her. Girls were excited.
BarryManila
08-02-19, 17:42
Why do you ask about that?Because I'm curious. Is it an unusual question?
Zeynep does kiss. I have been with her at least 5 times and kissing has never been a problem. She is a sweet and pretty girl, very much worth a session. Highly recommended. That said, I can't guarantee she kisses in a 50 E session all my rooms were of the 100 E for 60 M variety.I heard from one side she's kissing, but others said: No. We all know that kisses for someone means deep kisses, for somebody else it means kissing with lips only. Of course it's a matter of chemistry and last.
Not least it depends on extra money.
Because I'm curious. Is it an unusual question?
I heard from one side she's kissing, but others said: No. We all know that kisses for someone means deep kisses, for somebody else it means kissing with lips only. Of course it's a matter of chemistry and last.
Not least it depends on extra money.OK, you are right. Zyenep's kissing is not as deep and not as passionate as some of my best girls over the years. But there have been others that provided very minimal kissing in even 100 Euro sessions. Compared to them, Zyenep was an improvement. She provided a minimal amount of tongue action, plenty of lips to lips in a 100 Euro session for one hour. She did for me.
Hey Pessimist,
Could you please share where she sits and perhaps a bit of her physical description? I have heard so much about her and I'm a bit surprised I still haven't met her.Hi WorldPeace,
She is half Rom half Turk, looks like her heritage. Approx 160 cm in height, skinny and small tits. She has a smiling and pleasant disposition. I do not remember if she has any specific location, but closer to the pole dance group is a reasonable location. Generally she is not stationary as she is either busy and in the rooms or walking around seeking customers.
Sirioja,
You are very experienced and with many women. You can tell just by watching the woman walk, talk and her body language.
I only wanted to provide general information for newbies since the Law was changed in 2017.
Aloha.You are right there is a new law, but reality is different: natural BJ is still quite standard, with some girls interested by extra to provide CIM. About new law, GT and LR girls were said by staff they didn't want complaints from clients, so girls kept on in same way than before, what is reality. On the other hand, at Turkish Samya, staff made come a Polizei woman on early 1st July afternoon, who explained to girls they could have to pay fines for BBBJ. I discovered a girl in the night 30 June /1st July, enjoyable with BBBJ, so I decided to return to her on Saturday night. When she saw me, she came straight to me, I didn't tell her I would come back on next day, we went to repeat of course and in room she told me they were told she would have problems if she kept on providing BBBJ, so I had to explain her, according to the new law, and even I m not German but I use to work with juridic rules, she is a victim and only me can be guilty and prosecuted, she then seemed more comfortable and told: So we can do like yesterday?
I think knowledge we got from real women in real life, is more useful than experience in FKK where girls have low level about sexuality, even some superstars don t know much about their body, little mum are the best to know their body and sexuality because they are used to give to their baby. I only learned how react Romanian girls and woman types are my best GF in bed. Maybe Asians learn about Caucasian girls compare to Asians. I think behavior, manners and skill work more than experience, better to look how girls look at You before going to room, usually You should understand how it will be, even can sometimes be interesting to surprise a pretty enough girl who looked at You like a alien, and to get at the end: Why you didn't come to me before, or like Joana. De at Globe: now I know you, I will run to you, and she did. No experienced specialist for me, because we are all different as say girls.
PPan31: what summer vacation were you referring to?
I should be arriving in Frankfurt by August 26th for a week.
Should I be expecting an upcoming vacation and a poor LU?August is a time where lots of girl go home to recover and to visit their families. That means if you are focused on specific girl as I am you have to change expectations. At Sharks my experience is that in Summer lots of new girls come in to try the club.
Sharks is one of the clubs I go even on a Monday having a weaker lineup but still good for me.
Did you get kisses from Zeynep?I get kisses from her but I am usually staying for minimum an hour or longer with her. I like her general appearance, the conversations and her sweetness, whichi can only enjoy when I have more time.
Could you share your experience with Edina, please?For me, Edina provides GFE on a very high level. Very soft and with lots of passion. Rooms with her are always an experience. I personally epecially like her smile and good conversation (German). I typically don't do specials so I can not report about that. She provides kissing and likes DATY, so I get all I expect without upselling.
I typically stay longer with her and I don't know what she is different in 30 min. Sessions.
WorldPeaceNow
08-04-19, 07:47
Hi WorldPeace,
She is half Rom half Turk, looks like her heritage. Approx 160 cm in height, skinny and small tits. She has a smiling and pleasant disposition. I do not remember if she has any specific location, but closer to the pole dance group is a reasonable location. Generally she is not stationary as she is either busy and in the rooms or walking around seeking customers.Perfect. Appreciate it, bud.
ExpatLover
08-04-19, 17:53
You are right there is a new law, but reality is different: natural BJ is still quite standard, with some girls interested by extra to provide CIM. About new law, GT and LR girls were said by staff they didn't want complaints from clients, so girls kept on in same way than before, what is reality. On the other hand, at Turkish Samya, staff made come a Polizei woman on early 1st July afternoon, who explained to girls they could have to pay fines for BBBJ. I discovered a girl in the night 30 June /1st July, enjoyable with BBBJ, so I decided to return to her on Saturday night. When she saw me, she came straight to me, I didn't tell her I would come back on next day, we went to repeat of course and in room she told me they were told she would have problems if she kept on providing BBBJ, so I had to explain her, according to the new law, and even I m not German but I use to work with juridic rules, she is a victim and only me can be guilty and prosecuted, she then seemed more comfortable and told: So we can do like yesterday?
Just showing how most of those girls are low educated, under pressure from BF, pimps. Most of them can t really speak German, have no real friends.
Just showing how most of those girls are low educated, under pressure from BF, pimps. Most of them can t really speak German, have no real friends.No, it shows absolutely none of that! So please stop projecting your own random ideas to a random situation. The correspondence link is non existent in your example.
I only have a few hours to spend at a FKK (11 am-5 pm) on an upcoming Tuesday. I know Sharks opens at 11. How many girls should I expect? I was thinking about going to Oase, but I have already been there once and want a different experience for my second FKK. Would going to the RDL be better? Is there another club that would be better at noon on a Tuesday? Thanks so much!
For me, Edina provides GFE on a very high level. Very soft and with lots of passion. Rooms with her are always an experience. She provides kissing and likes DATY, so I get all I expect without upselling.
I typically stay longer with her and I don't know what she is different in 30 min. Sessions.Thanks, I share your experience with Edina.
August is a time where lots of girl go home to recover and to visit their families. That means if you are focused on specific girl as I am you have to change expectations. At Sharks my experience is that in Summer lots of new girls come in to try the club.
Sharks is one of the clubs I go even on a Monday having a weaker lineup but still good for me.Lucky guy, when really difficult for me to find now a attractive and interesting girl on Friday or Saturday at Sharks. I stopped on Sunday, I prefer Formula 1 , or on Monday when I discovered Karolina. Pol or legendary Katalina I followed at Globe, but it was higher time for Sharks casting, with women like Agnes. Pol, Karin, or Sandra. De even not a top beauty but fire in bed and lovely.
I only have a few hours to spend at a FKK (11 am-5 pm) on an upcoming Tuesday. I know Sharks opens at 11. How many girls should I expect? I was thinking about going to Oase, but I have already been there once and want a different experience for my second FKK. Would going to the RDL be better? Is there another club that would be better at noon on a Tuesday? Thanks so much!Colfaxer,
If you have a few hours, if you like beautiful girls, Sharks is the Best. Just take a taxi from the airport to Darmstadt. Cost should be approximately 50 euros. Tuesday, it a slow day and the women wear swim suits and some are naked. You should still be able to find at least 3 decent girls to have sex with. 65 euro entrance and you get free buffet, non-alcoholic drinks, sauna and jacuzzi.
I have been to Frankfurt RLD and it is dirty. You have to walk up many stairs and look at a lot of doors to see if there is woman that might turn you on. If you just want a cheap fuck and don't care, then it is your choice. Most of the times that I have checked out Frankfurt's RLD, very few girls are open during the morning and afternoon.
Sharks and Oase are mega FKK clubs that provide you the best opportunity to have a great time. The choice is up to you.
August update:
Usual 100+ girls daily, overall better lineup than was in July or now in all other clubs I visited (Oase, Finca, LR etc) in this trip. Still 80% of the girls with way too much cellulite and / or worst than GND faces that I won't have sex with them unless they pay me a lot of money. And surprisingly, it's about that same percentage in RTC clubs like Dietz or Grim.
Brenda is back, and getting better and sweeter by the weeks.
Micky is such a waste of hotness. She's asian hunter as always but even they are avoiding / rejecting her 90% of the time. I guess they realized her APS (Asian Processing Scheme) in the old kino (now little fuck joints) is a total scam.
Loretta is my best Sharks experience in this trip.
Roxy is as sweet as ever, and then some.
I'm not sure if Cleo actually used to work in Globe or just says that, but she sure loves sex and blows like a true Glober. I love her body type and her personality. If she had no tattoos and if her face was a bit more beautiful, my bank would have started complaining and Mint app would have started notification of too much spending on entertainments.
Amalia and Elif are no longer focussing only on Asians, maybe because the sisters are not much busy like last year?
Barbie can be fun, but also can be more moody than any of your girlfriends ever; I guess partake at your own risk type.
Scarlett is the same gorgeous asexual girl I met 3 years ago, but must be doing something right to have so many stammgast customers. My guess is Denisa will become similar over the time. Bianca 18 Rom at Oase is of the same type.
Amanda is the only girl asked me extra for real BJ. No other girl did any upselling for real BJ or BLS or DFK. None!
I'm forgetting many names, old age creeping in. But generally everyone was nice.
I'm not sure this is a good thing or a bad thing, but lot of Asians now got the hang of how to negotiate FKK pricing. So much so that one Asian wanted to pay only 150 e for a 3 hours long session with a famous hot girl. Another Asian wanted to extend his session for another 30 minutes for only 20 euros. Kinda like how you haggle the prices in Asia. LOL.
On a side note, the two German girls at the McDonald in Dietzenbach are the most beautiful and the sweetest I have ever seen in any McDonald in all of Europe ever, out of maybe 25 McDonalds I was in for morning coffee and emails. One even started chatting up and joking with me. I wish they were working in some FKK.
If Cleo with silicon, late 20 s, she is ex Stefi Globe, my first Globe girl on my first visit when Katalina was not on tour. She was blond with natural tits at Globe on June 2016 , the best dancer on pole at Globe and super GFE and lovely in bed. After of course, Globe was Katalina for me and she really didn't need to be jealous about Isabella World, and I m sure she would never play to make me jealous, when she stopped on public when seeing me. If she is this Cleo / Stefi, then Globe quality for love in bed if you touch the woman. She was always lovely when we met after at Globe or Sharks, she didn't forget how I treated her.
Gino02. You saw Roxy?. Does that mean she has just come back from holiday. I did not see her.
I guess Evita is still on holiday?
Can you describe Loretta for me? I do not know her.
So, you went to Dietzenbach after Sharks? Not really much fun there after Sharks I think
Gino02. You saw Roxy?. Does that mean she has just come back from holiday. I did not see her.
I guess Evita is still on holiday?
Can you describe Loretta for me? I do not know her.
So, you went to Dietzenbach after Sharks? Not really much fun there after Sharks I thinkOptimist,
Yes, Roxy is back for at least a week. She's off today but will be there tomorrow Wednesday per her plan.
I saw Evita in July but not this month, not sure if / when she will be back. Somehow I never feel the urge to session with her, even though she came said Hi to me first time last month.
Loretta is about 26/27 yr ROM very slim (but not too skinny like Amanda) with perfect body for me, about 168 cm without shoes, do not wear those ugly plastic shoes that many Sharks girls wear these days. Classier compared to most of the girls in FKK land. Has only 2 little tattoos - one on left hand just above palm and another on the side of her torso, black / brown long straight natural hair, nice medium size visible pussy lips that I like, one piercing on belly with about 2 inches long jwellery hanging, nice natural boobs that may look a bit better with a little bit of sillicone but still very nice boobies for me, zero cellulite anywhere, nice little but round as like the runway models, and above all always smiling super nice personality, and likes sex with me LOL. Zero, I mean nada, upselling, not even any discussion of money in all my sessions with her. Ever. No wonder she had an eight hour long session with another customer on Sunday, and she tells me that's becoming somewhat normal for her after working about 18 months in Sharks (first job as WG). Many times she sits under the fish tank where Diana used to sit, next couch from where Roxy usually sits. I know a lot of real fashion models in NYC and Paris, and I think Loretta can still make good money by doing fashion modelling. Usually takes either Monday or Thursday off, and will go on vacation for few weeks end of this month, I'm sorry forgot exact dates.
Went to Dietz earlier hoping to find Amira but no luck, so no session there with the other girls none of whom were my type even by a mile. I should have first called the front desk though, my mistake.
A slim lady without curves. The backside view shows a size 32-34. Look for her shoes: she usually is wearing silver colored high heel sandals with scintillating paste gem on the fillet / belt (4 cm) upside the ankle. Black hair and narrow face. Ladylike but not arrogant.
ExpatLover
08-06-19, 13:27
Optimist,
Yes, Roxy is back for at least a week. She's off today but will be there tomorrow Wednesday per her plan.
I saw Evita in July but not this month, not sure if / when she will be back. Somehow I never feel the urge to session with her, even though she came said Hi to me first time last month.
Loretta is about 26/27 yr ROM very slim with perfect body for me, about 168 cm without shoes, do not wear those ugly plastic shoes that many Sharks girls wear these days. Classier compared to most of the girls in FKK land. Has only 2 little tattoos - one on left hand just above palm and another on the side of her torso, black / brown long straight natural hair, nice medium size visible pussy lips that I like, one piercing on belly with about 2 inches long jwellery hanging, nice natural boobs that may look a bit better with a little bit of sillicone but still very nice boobies for me, zero cellulite anywhere, nice little but round as like the runway models, and above all always smiling super nice personality, and likes sex with me LOL. Zero, I mean nada, upselling, not even any discussion of money in all my sessions with her. Ever. No wonder she had an eight hour long session with another customer on Sunday, and she tells me that's becoming somewhat normal for her after working about 18 months in Sharks (first job as WG). Many times she sits under the fish tank where Diana used to sit, next couch from where Roxy usually sits. I know a lot of real fashion models in NYC and Paris, and I think Loretta can still make good money by doing fashion modelling..From Shark to Dietz! The second one is just a very cheap place with over fucked prostitutes 0 emotion, 0 erotic just mechanical sex, sorry I am not wasting my time and money for those kind of places or girls.
I am too afraid to catch any disease but some guys like to play with their health.
Thanks for the help. One day I will meet you Shark cognoscenti and it will help me :)
Spend a few days late in July. Had a few sessions with Micky, Brenda, Amalia, Elfi. All good sessions in my opinion but the Highlight was Jessica at Cheyenne. Had both of them 3 times on threesome and it was amazing. I believe it is a must do thing.
Had also 2 separate sessions only with Cheyenne. In my opinion she is very feminine and like her face and eyes. If you like PSE then go for it.
Thanks for the help. One day I will meet you Shark cognoscenti and it will help me :)Gino. I second the thanks from Optimist. I'm visiting in about 2 months and hope these amazing scouting reports will help me zero in on a lady. Closer to the time, I'll post when I'm there in "future dates forum" , and treat you all to drinks!
From Shark to Dietz! The second one is just a very cheap place with over fucked prostitutes 0 emotion, 0 erotic just mechanical sex, sorry I am not wasting my time and money for those kind of places or girls.
I am too afraid to catch any disease but some guys like to play with their health.Well, have you ever seen Amira at Dietz? IMHO, from simply the look standpoint she is better than 98% Sharks girls even when all top girls are back from holidays. She can be very mechanical to most customers, but somehow likes me a lot, and that makes her one of my current top 3 girls in the whole FKK land.
Just so you know, Dietz girls get tested by a club sponsored doctor every few weeks (may even be weekly, I forgot what's for sure) and put on the sideline by the house If any disease found, unlike most of the other FKK girls like in Sharks. So if you are scared to get any STD from a prostitute, chances of getting that is much higher in places like Sharks by even kissing or BBBJ or DATY. That's just my opinion, you or others don't have to agree with me, but I haven't so far caught anything in last 12 years of FKK mongering. But I chose girls based on their general hygene and health practices as I observe.
Gino. I second the thanks from Optimist. I'm visiting in about 2 months and hope these amazing scouting reports will help me zero in on a lady. Closer to the time, I'll post when I'm there in "future dates forum" , and treat you all to drinks!Thanks Tintin and Optimist. Happy that the info is useful to you. For me, it's very hard to find a good looking and nice girl in FKKs these days, I feel like the average quality, particularly looks, gone really downhill in last 3 years. Before that I could find many FKK girls better looking (face and body) than in the summer on the streets of New York City. Now it seems to have reversed. On top of that, even if some FKK girl is good looking, their too many ugly tattoos now make them almost repulsive to me. And girls are not even ashamed nowadays having so much cottage cheese (cellulites) all over their body. It's very disappointing for me to observe how the wonderful world of FKK went downhill so quickly in only few years. So now if I find anyone I like, which is very rare, I try to enjoy her as much as I possibly can. Hope you also can do the same.
If Cleo with silicon, late 20 s, she is ex Stefi Globe, my first Globe girl on my first visit when Katalina was not on tour. She was blond with natural tits at Globe on June 2016 , the best dancer on pole at Globe and super GFE and lovely in bed. After of course, Globe was Katalina for me and she really didn't need to be jealous about Isabella World, and I m sure she would never play to make me jealous, when she stopped on public when seeing me. If she is this Cleo / Stefi, then Globe quality for love in bed if you touch the woman. She was always lovely when we met after at Globe or Sharks, she didn't forget how I treated her.Yes, Cleo is with silicone, late 20's. So you are probably correct she's ex Globe. She behaves exactly how you said. I only wish if I had met her when she had younger face and had no tattoos. You were so lucky to meet her back then. She's still lovely and very enjoyable Globe quality girl. Cleo and Loretta are about the same age, but somehow Loretta looks much much younger and fresh girl, maybe because she's doing this job only 18 months now.
ExpatLover
08-06-19, 17:50
Well, have you ever seen Amira at Dietz? From simply the look standpoint she is better than 98% Sharks girls even when all top girls are back from holidays. She can be very mechanical to most customers, but somehow likes me a lot, and that makes her one of my current top 3 girls in the whole FKK land.
Just so you know, Dietz girls get tested by a club sponsored doctor every few weeks (may even be weekly, I forgot what's for sure) and put on the sideline by the house If any disease found, unlike most of the other FKK girls like in Sharks. So if you are scared to get any STD from a prostitute, chances of getting that is much higher in places like Sharks by even kissing or BBBJ or DATY. That's just my opinion, you or others don't have to agree with me, but I haven't so far caught anything in last 12 years of FKK mongering. But I chose girls based on their general hygene and health practices as I observe.In 15 years of P6, I never catch something like you, I don't believe about the stories of the girls being tested, I spent so much time with girls from Romania outside the clubs and in their home country just to be convinced that the number of girls who are doing regular medical checks is very limited.
Unfortunately I don t know Amira but Dietz is really not a place for me, everything looks so cheap there, and when I am there I just feel in a cheap brothel.
ExpatLover
08-06-19, 17:53
Yes, Cleo is with silicone, late 20's. So you are probably correct she's ex Globe. She behaves exactly how you said. I only wish if I had met her when she had younger face and had no tattoos. You were so lucky to meet her back then. She's still lovely and very enjoyable girl. Cleo and Loretta are about the same age, but somehow Loretta still looks much much younger and fresh girl, maybe because she's doing this job only 18 months now.Most of the prostitutes are aging very fast, I can easily remember the first days in the FKK for some girls in Shark or World or Oase and you see them 1 or 2 years later, difficult to imagine how they changed.
Nick The G
08-06-19, 18:01
Yes, Cleo is with silicone, late 20's. So you are probably correct she's ex Globe. She behaves exactly how you said. I only wish if I had met her when she had younger face and had no tattoos. You were so lucky to meet her back then. She's still lovely and very enjoyable Globe quality girl. Cleo and Loretta are about the same age, but somehow Loretta looks much much younger and fresh girl, maybe because she's doing this job only 18 months now.Cleo told me in June she became 26 years old early in this year. She said she is now 5 years in that business.
Yes, Cleo is with silicone, late 20's. So you are probably correct she's ex Globe. She behaves exactly how you said. I only wish if I had met her when she had younger face and had no tattoos. You were so lucky to meet her back then. She's still lovely and very enjoyable Globe quality girl. Cleo and Loretta are about the same age, but somehow Loretta looks much much younger and fresh girl, maybe because she's doing this job only 18 months now.I would say Cleo is 160 bare feet, I didn't see her on my few last visits, but even not Katalina nor Rebeka. Hu nor Joana. De, but really Globe level quality. She really deserves to return to Globe where silicon competition now, I wish her the best, really lovely girl.
From Shark to Dietz! The second one is just a very cheap place with over fucked prostitutes 0 emotion, 0 erotic just mechanical sex, sorry I am not wasting my time and money for those kind of places or girls.
I am too afraid to catch any disease but some guys like to play with their health.I don't run for, but with my little experience, and more useful: knowledge of women, manners and skill, really no need to take diseases risks in low level RTC, to play religion. Some pretty princesses can become so passionate after cumming on DATY, but problem is when I ask if they take pills about pregnancy, usual answer is: no.
Well, have you ever seen Amira at Dietz? IMHO, from simply the look standpoint she is better than 98% Sharks girls even when all top girls are back from holidays. She can be very mechanical to most customers, but somehow likes me a lot, and that makes her one of my current top 3 girls in the whole FKK land.
Just so you know, Dietz girls get tested by a club sponsored doctor every few weeks (may even be weekly, I forgot what's for sure) and put on the sideline by the house If any disease found, unlike most of the other FKK girls like in Sharks. So if you are scared to get any STD from a prostitute, chances of getting that is much higher in places like Sharks by even kissing or BBBJ or DATY. That's just my opinion, you or others don't have to agree with me, but I haven't so far caught anything in last 12 years of FKK mongering. But I chose girls based on their general hygene and health practices as I observe.No value and no pleasure for me to fuck AO a girl, even pretty, fucked AO by everybody, when You see clients look in RTC. Much more valuable and enjoyable for me, even I don t run for, when a beauty choose to offer to You, they never ask for extra for this, just like a present, but most often they don t even take pills, so risky.
BackpackBrian
08-09-19, 04:44
I know Globe will take my credit card, charge it, and then pay the girl right there.
I think I remember Oase or World doing this 5+ years ago, but they charged me like 10-15%.
Does Sharks do this? Or does anyone know of any other German FKK that do this?
I like to get the miles!
I know Globe will take my credit card, charge it, and then pay the girl right there.
I think I remember Oase or World doing this 5+ years ago, but they charged me like 10-15%.
Does Sharks do this? Or does anyone know of any other German FKK that do this?
I like to get the miles!In whole Switzerland, you can pay with credit card, but charged. In Wellcum Austria, you can pay with credit card, no charge for entry, 5% for cash. At Oase, you can pay with credit card, charged. Not at Sharks, but ATM.
I know Globe will take my credit card, charge it, and then pay the girl right there.
I think I remember Oase or World doing this 5+ years ago, but they charged me like 10-15%.
Does Sharks do this? Or does anyone know of any other German FKK that do this?
I like to get the miles!ATM there takes Visa, I tried, doesn't charge fee if you are customer of a German direct bank like DKB.
Collecting Miles is a strange habit for me, just doing things to geht the miles? OK but I hate to fly, maybe I don't have the understanding.
However every girl there has a slot but not for credit cards. I've never heard they charge via cards. I think this would lead to problems with taxes and IRS cause every girl is just working there for their own, not for the club, they are just.
Customers too like we are. They got to keep it separated otherwise German IRS charges turnover taxes (maybe partially) to the club, which they of course want to avoid. That's why most clubs in Germany don't have a Line-Up-List.
On their Homepages and if they got it leads to a third party homepage. Only a few clubs take the risk to mix up their business (which is to provide the hardware, the club) with the girl's businesses. IRS is always waiting here in Germany.
Like I say, you can mess up with mafia, the marines or Medellin, the most dangerous organisation on this planet is German IRS aka DAS FINANZAMT!
ATM there takes Visa, I tried, doesn't charge fee if you are customer of a German direct bank like DKB.
However every girl there has a slot but not for credit cards. I've never heard they charge via cards. Nevertheless from some girls you can get ATM service. LOL.
From America to Frankfurt and on to Darmstadt. That has often been my way and it has always been worth it because Sharks is.
A super horny club. In the summer I enjoy the plant and the.
Good food. Colleagues recommended Bonita to me, but I could not find her. Either she was not there. But.
Secretly I hoped that I could see Elif again. I ran.
That's why and what luck. Suddenly I saw her with her sister. It was a great reunion joy. Elif is one.
My favorite and I enjoyed another great hour with her.
In the room. Your kisses. Your blowjob and this hot ass.
- just fantastic for good sex. She also knows what a customer wants and goes wonderfully with. Elif is a great woman. I'm coming.
Again and looking forward to you today.
BackpackBrian
08-11-19, 00:49
Any clubs in Frankfurt or anywhere in Germany, Zurich, etc?
I want to get cash from my credit card. I don't really care if there is a fee.
BarryManila
08-11-19, 07:19
From Monday the 12th of August will start renovations at Sharks. Some parts of the club will be closed off. The bar area will also be affected.
Member #4636
08-11-19, 07:47
Any clubs in Frankfurt or anywhere in Germany, Zurich, etc?
I want to get cash from my credit card. I don't really care if there is a fee.In Frankfurt I think all clubs have an ATM machine to withdraw cash from either debit or credit card. High fees though around 9-10 euro.
Any clubs in Frankfurt or anywhere in Germany, Zurich, etc?
I want to get cash from my credit card. I don't really care if there is a fee.At Oase, you can get cash with 10% charge. At Wellcum Austria, with 5% charge. At Globe or Freubad, You can pay girls, but not get cash.
Monday 12th August for 3 weeks renovations in the Shark. Club is still open, but you have to deal with massive limitations!
Therefore they've already put a tent outside, I've already seen it Friday. I guess it is a bar counter substitute sth like that. Entry fee stays the same as far as I know. Bar counter is getting changed completely, maybe they also change some other things. Information policy still weak, no info on the Clubs-Homepage. I guess most guests will still visit the Club, paying any entrance fee without thinking, therefore Sharks would be stupid if they would reduce the price.
I hope they improve air quality which is always bad (me as a smoker I think the air quality is bad! They got hatches and air circulation on the roof, but I guess nobody cares or they want to save some money (electricity).
And I also hope they put a self service soda pump outside the kitchen area so the customers can pull some soda-drinks themselves, just like in other clubs. The bar counter girls are so slow. The club would help themselves too if they would outsource the 0 Euro soda-drinker customers like me.
In Frankfurt I think all clubs have an ATM machine to withdraw cash from either debit or credit card. High fees though around 9-10 euro.Only Oase has no ATM from the Frankfurt big5 FKK clubs. At Oase you get money with your CC at reception with high provision and they see CC name. Therefore I've never used this at Oase.
At Oase, you can get cash with 10% charge. At Wellcum Austria, with 5% charge. At Globe or Freubad, You can pay girls, but not get cash.Also at Andiamo Villach. At, cash with 10% charge.
Last night of my trip to FKK land tonight. Worked last night until midnight so too late for me to hit a club. Was near to the Hauptbahnof so decided to take a walk through RLD. One particularly pretty blonde outside a club but this area looked fairly dangerous to me. Got accosted by several people offering drugs and one guy was not happy I was not going into the club and tried to block my path forward. After one attempt at politely telling him I wasn't interested he persisted and positively moved to one side to stop my progress. Told him that I really did not want to have to force him to let me pass and I'd like to keep it friendly but if he grabbed me again he was going to end up on the floor. Seemed to do the trick and off I went. Made a fairly quick escape from the area and wouldn't fancy venturing back. Grim.
Before the report on today's events at Sharks thought I'd mention Stuggi's post. Very pleased to hear renovations are taking place and hope it is not just the bar. In particular I hope they sort out the ventilation in the rooms (so hot today), then also the massage rooms. They used to be around the back of the fish tank which was great. Now they are virtually in the club and even with headphones it is so noisy and not relaxing at all.
They need to think about the food service. Whilst for me the food in Sharks is head and shoulders above most clubs (not Sukura Stuttgart), I arrived at the club today and there was nothing available at all from 3 pm to 5 pm when the fruit was put out. The main bbq took forever and didn't start till gone 5 pm. So 2 hours with no food in a club where entry fee includes food. Not great.
The smoke in the bar is also very heavy. I hope they install a smokers room like at Mainhattan so the rest of us who don't smoke can avoid the ingestion of cancer inducing smoke. Passive smoking can cause premature death in non-smokers. Passive smoking increases the risk of coronary heart disease by 25-40% - almost the same level as a smoker. Second-hand smoke contains more than 7000 chemicals, with 69 cancer-causing chemicals. At Living Room I would imagine the chances of serious illness or death if you spend much time in that main lounge is high! Sharks is a little better as it is bigger but not a lot. In a lot of countries it is illegal now to smoke in bars. I don't want to stop people who want to kill themselves prematurely from doing so if that is their wish (to risk it) but give them an area to do it in! And let's get a kino back at Sharks. Lots of renovations needed so I hope all of the above is within the works. No information seems to be available on how long this will all take.
Onto the day. I normally don't arrive in daytime but did today. Enjoyed a beer at the pool and watching one pretty blonde throwing a ball into the pool for guys and jumping about.
The sun was out but went in about 3. 30 pm but it was fine to sit out. Read a book, listened to music and chilled. Approached several times despite wearing headphones (phone in robe and listening to music).
Overall I would say the LU was reasonable but nothing amazing. There were two very pretty blonde girls with longish very curly hair. Both were slim. One wore red lingerie / basque and was taller that the other and had larger breasts. The other was shorter, had high cheek bones, quite pretty and was constantly with her brunette friend. If anyone recognises who these ladies are from the above descriptions I'd be interested to know. Alas did not get to chat with either. The usual sausage fest on Sunday was present. I'm not sure why I bothered to leave Sharks till last and go on a Sunday but it is how it panned out.
First up, decided to finally room with Yvonna. Not Ivana as she was clear to tell me. Nice pretty girl, been in the club a few years and lovely natural see cups. Sits by the massage room beyond the main bar. Long mousey coloured hair (no extensions). Really good room for an hour with her. Great service and attitude.
Off for massage with Pia my favourite lady masseuse. One of the Thai ladies. Always excellent and today was no exception - 90 minutes but in the area cordoned off by sauna / showers and inside the main club so far too noisy.
Round two with Scarlett. First time with her. 23 year old, fresh looking brunette (Ro). Good vibes, very natural looking girl. Natural bee cups, only tattoos are one on a foot and one on wrist. Very white body with no suntan at all. Great hour with her too left me very tired not least as the room felt like it was 200 degrees.
A good visit, more than 5 girls I'd have gone to a room with which equates to a successful visit for me.
Enjoyed it but would love the club so much more if the suggested above alterations were implemented.
Scarlet is one of the hotter looking girls at Sharks. Pretty face, tight bid, nice tits, good English, sassy attitude but friendly. A good all around girl. Service OK. Has improved over the years.
Yvonna, or Ivona used to an OK looker, but now less than GND in my view. Sorry, I'm being blunt. She aged faster than her real years. Ivana, the slimmer one (fish tank) on the other hand, still looks good. But I have not seen Ivana in a few months.
ExpatLover
08-12-19, 09:45
Last night of my trip to FKK land tonight. Worked last night until midnight so too late for me to hit a club. Was near to the Hauptbahnof so decided to take a walk through RLD. One particularly pretty blonde outside a club but this area looked fairly dangerous to me. Got accosted by several people offering drugs and one guy was not happy I was not going into the club and tried to block my path forward. After one attempt at politely telling him I wasn't interested he persisted and positively moved to one side to stop my progress. Told him that I really did not want to have to force him to let me pass and I'd like to keep it friendly but if he grabbed me again he was going to end up on the floor. Seemed to do the trick and off I went. Made a fairly quick escape from the area and wouldn't fancy venturing back. Grim.
Frankfurt RDL district is not a safe place at all for us mongers, 0 reason even to spend 1 minute there, full of illegal migrants dealing in ethnically groups and sometimes fighting each other for territories.
From Monday the 12th of August will start renovations at Sharks. Some parts of the club will be closed off. The bar area will also be affected.Most important would be the installation of air conditioning in the rooms. Have them activated only during hot summer days to save money which Sharks is wont to do.
ExpatLover
08-12-19, 17:38
Scarlet is one of the hotter looking girls at Sharks. Pretty face, tight bid, nice tits, good English, sassy attitude but friendly. A good all around girl. Service OK. Has improved over the years.
Yvonna, or Ivona used to an OK looker, but now less than GND in my view. Sorry, I'm being blunt. She aged faster than her real years. Ivana, the slimmer one (fish tank) on the other hand, still looks good. But I have not seen Ivana in a few months.In this job most of the girls are aging very fast, sex is good but too much can be challenging, also smoking, drinking, spending hours waiting, learning nothing except fucking and sucking all this is not keeping your body and head fresh.
In this job most of the girls are aging very fast, sex is good but too much can be challenging, also smoking, drinking, spending hours waiting, learning nothing except fucking and sucking all this is not keeping your body and head fresh.Yes agree. The waiting around is the worst part of it. Someone else wrote this, but they have not much to do when not working and are couped up 4 per room in those little cubbies and keep eating junk food and smoking endlessly while chatting with their pals. In 2 years, a fresh 19 year old beauty ages so badly and looks like 25 year old MILF with a million miles on the body.
If the club has any money to provide wellness facilities, they should make them available to the girls. But with thousands of new girls coming over every year from E EU, club owners have no incentive to support existing girls.
WorldPeaceNow
08-13-19, 03:49
In this job most of the girls are aging very fast, sex is good but too much can be challenging, also smoking, drinking, spending hours waiting, learning nothing except fucking and sucking all this is not keeping your body and head fresh.I've spoken to countless girls at FKKs and one question I always ask them is if they smoke. If they say, I follow-up with why. The answer has been unanimous. To combat the stress of the job. So I asked how does stress manifest in your profession? They say it's simple. Whether they will meet the quota for the day or not. Quantify quota? Varies from girl to girl. Some target 500 over their entrance fee, while some have 2 K and above. So, the biggest factor is money.
Here's another one I never realized. Chronic rejection. They chase us and we turn them down. Now even though they appear defiant, they are just as much affected by rejection as we are (when we approach girls in the real world). Or to put it another way, it's like when you are looking for a job and sometimes all you get is a string of rejections from the companies. They have to do this for every client. Repeat this for 5 or 6 days a week, 52 weeks a year, I think it would take a toll on anyone. A smoke helps them combat the nervousness of approaching a stranger for a job and deal with rejection of employment.
I think there is one more thing that they don't share. What brought them to this profession. I wonder if there is a dark story behind it. I don't think most 18 yo will think of prostitution as their choice of career. I read somewhere that many girls enter this profession, especially in Europe and FKK, by way of a family member or a lover. Given most come from poor families, some family member / boy friend / husband takes advantage of their trust and sends them here.
So, yes, when you add all these up with terrible working conditions at Sharks, girls age 10 years in 2 years.
From Monday the 12th of August will start renovations at Sharks. Some parts of the club will be closed off. The bar area will also be affected.Since I visit, Sharks is the club which made biggest improvement with veranda for winter, beautiful garden with chalets with AC to enjoy girls in daylight in Summer. At a moment, were new rooms downstairs where massage now. They made new rooms upstairs, so never waited for long to get a free room when can wait sometimes 1 hour at LR with 10 rooms, and nearly at GT. Sharks is a good club for me with good breakfast, most important meal when You are used to sport, some beautiful rooms, and I can understand they need many entry from girls and guys, but quantity of girls is not on same level than club improvement. Pretty and high level girls would make past regulars coming back more often, even I know new kind of clients at night give business to the club, buying bottles. Not only at Sharks, LR turned same way, but high level girls need good business to stay, not drunk guys. On my last visits, quite empty on Friday afternoon and some girls don t look for night business, like Megan didn't want to work with these clients, so quite poor casting after midnight.
ExpatLover
08-13-19, 06:23
Yes agree. The waiting around is the worst part of it. Someone else wrote this, but they have not much to do when not working and are couped up 4 per room in those little cubbies and keep eating junk food and smoking endlessly while chatting with their pals. In 2 years, a fresh 19 year old beauty ages so badly and looks like 25 year old MILF with a million miles on the body.
If the club has any money to provide wellness facilities, they should make them available to the girls. But with thousands of new girls coming over every year from E EU, club owners have no incentive to support existing girls.Most of the clubs are owned by motorcycle clubs, some tried to invest in the girls but most of the girls are so unpredictable, one day they come, next day no.
From Monday the 12th of August will start renovations at Sharks. Some parts of the club will be closed off. The bar area will also be affected.That's not good.
Anyone know which other parts of the club are closed off and if there are any discounts of the entry fee as result of the inconvenience?
Also anyone know if Brenda is still around?
Thanks. Howie.
Kosher Kowboy
08-13-19, 09:49
Last night of my trip to FKK land tonight. Worked last night until midnight so too late for me to hit a club. Was near to the Hauptbahnof so decided to take a walk through RLD. One particularly pretty blonde outside a club but this area looked fairly dangerous to me. Got accosted by several people offering drugs and one guy was not happy I was not going into the club and tried to block my path forward. After one attempt at politely telling him I wasn't interested he persisted and positively moved to one side to stop my progress. Told him that I really did not want to have to force him to let me pass and I'd like to keep it friendly but if he grabbed me again he was going to end up on the floor. Seemed to do the trick and off I went. Made a fairly quick escape from the area and wouldn't fancy venturing back. Grim.
Frankfurt RDL district is not a safe place at all for us mongers, 0 reason even to spend 1 minute there, full of illegal migrants dealing in ethnically groups and sometimes fighting each other for territories.Dangerous? Any mongers here been robbed or hurt in the RLD? If so I missed the post. Perhaps you are just not one who deals well with folks blocking your path. Do like an American football player. When the defender blocks your path you spin right or left now you are 1-2 feet away from either side of them and continue forward. FYI sometimes it is best not to say ' not interested' as that acknowledges them, just ignore them if they get pushy verbally get pushy back. ' Man up' as they say.
Now I have seen a fight, usually always the junkies and how can you spot an ' immigrant'; how do you know they are not a German citizen second or third generation as German as the white man? That is quite a stretch to think because one has darker skin they are an illegal. This is like I looking at a Mexican in TX and racially profiling them as being an illegal alien when they are just as much a US citizen as I am some very hard working good people just raising a family in a land of opportunity.
I find some of your posts to be borderline racist against Turks and once again what is wrong with a Turk? What have they done to you? Every Turkish man I have met has been nice to me, one good friend of mine here in FRA is Turkish; the ladies love him.
And FYI the junkies in the RLD all have my color skin, they are the ones who get arrested not the Asian, black or brown skinned folks. You are free to be ethnocentric it is your choice however judge the person, not the skin. I'll be happy to introduce you to some very nice dark skinned folks here.
Several Sharks have told me the Turks are their favorite clients; clean, respectful, do not fight over time in the rooms and I am told many tip. I think you need to be a little more accepting of all people and with the name ' ExpatLover' you created IMHO it is not a very fitting name if you are not going to be accepting of all kinds of people in a city where much like our cities it is the diversification of many cultures that in some minds makes the United States a great place, we call it a ' melting pot. ' All welcome.
And FWIW I am very friendly with the Day Care regulars as well as the girls, one of their boyfriends once gave me a ride so I didn't have to walk in the rain. He was Turkish.
Two trips ago a man gave me a small gift and said ' welcome back to Germany'; he too was Turkish.
At dinner the other night the manager gave me a free dessert for my frequent visits. He was Turkish.
There are good and bad people all over the world from all different cultures. I do acknowledge immigrants in the USA can cause problems but so can the white man, and most immigrants back home are great people. I am not a German and am unfamiliar with the relations with Turks and I can only speak from my own experiences but I am pretty certain the majority of Turks in Germany are good people.
I personally find your comments disgusting; good or bad comes from inside the person; not their skin.
ExpatLover
08-13-19, 11:59
Dangerous? Any mongers here been robbed or hurt in the RLD? If so I missed the post. Perhaps you are just not one who deals well with folks blocking your path. Do like an American football player. When the defender blocks your path you spin right or left now you are 1-2 feet away from either side of them and continue forward. FYI sometimes it is best not to say ' not interested' as that acknowledges them, just ignore them if they get pushy verbally get pushy back. ' Man up' as they say.
Now I have seen a fight, usually always the junkies and how can you spot an ' immigrant'; how do you know they are not a German citizen second or third generation as German as the white man? That is quite a stretch to think because one has darker skin they are an illegal. This is like I looking at a Mexican in TX and racially profiling them as being an illegal alien when they are just as much a US citizen as I am some very hard working good people just raising a family in a land of opportunity.I am every months in Frankfurt and also in the Bahnhof Viertel by night, but for sure you know better than I what is happening there. Just a small info, are you aware that every months the Turkish owner of the restaurant in this place are going to the mayor office to complain about what is happening in that place and how it is negatively impacting their long time business.
.........Also anyone know if Brenda is still around?......So you are one of Brenda's fans, well, good for you. She usually works for a couple weeks then takes a couple weeks off, then repeats that schedule over and over. Its probably why the profession does not take its toll on her the way it does other girls.
Member #4636
08-13-19, 17:38
In this job most of the girls are aging very fast, sex is good but too much can be challenging, also smoking, drinking, spending hours waiting, learning nothing except fucking and sucking all this is not keeping your body and head fresh.Maybe this is why MR. HO said that their bones also get loose and their ass gets bigger! LOL.
Dangerous? Any mongers here been robbed or hurt in the RLD? If so I missed the post. Perhaps you are just not one who deals well with folks blocking your path. Do like an American football player. When the defender blocks your path you spin right or left now you are 1-2 feet away from either side of them and continue forward. FYI sometimes it is best not to say ' not interested' as that acknowledges them, just ignore them if they get pushy verbally get pushy back. ' Man up' as they say.
Now I have seen a fight, usually always the junkies and how can you spot an ' immigrant'; how do you know they are not a German citizen second or third generation as German as the white man? That is quite a stretch to think because one has darker skin they are an illegal. This is like I looking at a Mexican in TX and racially profiling them as being an illegal alien when they are just as much a US citizen as I am some very hard working good people just raising a family in a land of opportunity..I agree with you many Turkish are nice, like Samya staff, some are courageous, but not what I hear from girls in many clubs. Of course, if You speak to girls who work in clubs where Turkish clients make business, girls don t have choice, but many girls prefer to avoid them, with my little experience in FKK land.
I was also very surprised about Albanians I met in Zurich Polizei jail, they were there for dealing drug, waiting to be sent off Switzerland to Albania via Belgrad and were sad to lose their good business making good money with Swiss clients, especially in Zurich, but they were amazed to see a devil insulting Kantonal polizei or Swiss immigration polizei, sending them back my foods, so Albanians asked me: can we get your foods, they explained me go fast from Amsterdam through Germany and through Albanian holes on border. Switzerland learned me to ski when I was a child from 8 to 14 yo, Swiss administration learned me to learn from Albanian dealers, thanks to Swiss administration. Of course, I never made damage to anybody in Switzerland, I just will always refuse to be fucked by Swiss administration and I will always resist to them for my past GF Isabella. Ro they frightened at 6 am to make her pay 1200 CHF. I will never pay 2000 they ask me. Albanians were not, devil was French telling Swiss: I don t need your so small country for my life.
Kosher Kowboy
08-13-19, 20:25
I am every months in Frankfurt and also in the Bahnhof Viertel by night, but for sure you know better than I what is happening there. Just a small info, are you aware that every months the Turkish owner of the restaurant in this place are going to the mayor office to complain about what is happening in that place and how it is negatively impacting their long time business.Are you talking about Mamaris or another Turkish place? The cash only place (tax vashing machine) with long lines often, tables full raking in the dough even during the day. I can only assume you are talking about another place as Mamaris just underwent an extensive remodel and business is booming; that remodel wasn't cheap at all. In fact 'business is so bad' they were able to afford to close down make no income for close to two months, stomach the hit and now business seems better than ever!
Stop in next time and take a peak when you pay at the cash register drawer when they give you change, every slot is overflowing with bills although the 100's they put in another spot. That owner isn't hurting one bit. FYI the owner is a German of Turkish decent. It is a family run business. Very nice guys. ' The owner of the Turkish restaurant' would be a much more proper way to phrase your thoughts.
I eat there quite often, any of the rift raft comes in that place or tries to sit at a table they are asked to leave and / or removed immediately, cops there in seconds. That place is a cash cow. Perhaps you should stop in and try their Lamb soup and mixed grill platter sometime, sometimes they even have Goulash the best I have had yet in Germany but business is 'so bad' they usually run out by 9 or 10 PM at the latest.
Places don't remodel when the long term outlook is bad. They relocate. Or close.
I've spoken to countless girls at FKKs and one question I always ask them is if they smoke. If they say, I follow-up with why. The answer has been unanimous. To combat the stress of the job. So I asked how does stress manifest in your profession? They say it's simple. Whether they will meet the quota for the day or not. Quantify quota? Varies from girl to girl. Some target 500 over their entrance fee, while some have 2 K and above. So, the biggest factor is money.
Here's another one I never realized. Chronic rejection. They chase us and we turn them down. Now even though they appear defiant, they are just as much affected by rejection as we are (when we approach girls in the real world). Or to put it another way, it's like when you are looking for a job and sometimes all you get is a string of rejections from the companies. They have to do this for every client. Repeat this for 5 or 6 days a week, 52 weeks a year, I think it would take a toll on anyone. A smoke helps them combat the nervousness of approaching a stranger for a job and deal with rejection of employment.Like dogs, 7 years for each year for us, and with cigarettes which are a drug. With my girls, when they smoke, I often take their cigarettes, sometimes even in their bag, then they ask me to give them back, they need so much, real drug, when no cocaine.
That's not good.
Anyone know which other parts of the club are closed off and if there are any discounts of the entry fee as result of the inconvenience?
Also anyone know if Brenda is still around?
Thanks. Howie.The whole of the bar area is closed off which prevents people walking around the now demolished bar.
If you want a drink you must go outside.
Many girls left early bitterly complaining about the temporary set up.
However the girls who remained got a lot of business because of the limited availability.
There was no discount on Monday's entrance fee.
Maybe this is why MR. HO said that their bones also get loose and their ass gets bigger! LOL.I believe Mr. Ho was only referring to the pounding. Which I don't really believe in.
But the smoking and sitting and waiting on the other hand. Some of my favourite girls seems to work less, but spend time at the gym instead. Like Eleny at Oceans and Lorena at Wellcum for example. I don't know how the economics of that works out, but I certainly prefer it. Too bad girls like are a drop in the sea. But maybe it only works out for some also.
The whole of the bar area is closed off which prevents people walking around the now demolished bar.
If you want a drink you must go outside.
Many girls left early bitterly complaining about the temporary set up.
However the girls who remained got a lot of business because of the limited availability.
There was no discount on Monday's entrance fee.No 45 if you give discount ticket? And they give you back a new one for next Monday or Tuesday, when club is reduced by works. Where to prepare marathon if can't turn for 15 hours around the bar, looking for a so rare beauty. Sharks is good for club improvements since I discovered on beginning of 2014, but beauties are more important.
Here's another one I never realized. Chronic rejection. They chase us and we turn them down. Now even though they appear defiant, they are just as much affected by rejection as we are (when we approach girls in the real world). Or to put it another way, it's like when you are looking for a job and sometimes all you get is a string of rejections from the companies. They have to do this for every client. Repeat this for 5 or 6 days a week, 52 weeks a year, I think it would take a toll on anyone. A smoke helps them combat the nervousness of approaching a stranger for a job and deal with rejection of employment.
But how is it different compared to any other sales job?
WorldPeaceNow
08-14-19, 06:11
But how is it different compared to any other sales job?The product. Here, it's their body. More personal than any sales job selling an inanimate object or service, no?
But how is it different compared to any other sales job?Cause they sell themselves not a vacuum cleaner. If you reject you reject them as a person not their product.
I believe Mr. Ho was only referring to the pounding. Which I don't really believe in.
But the smoking and sitting and waiting on the other hand. Some of my favourite girls seems to work less, but spend time at the gym instead. Like Eleny at Oceans and Lorena at Wellcum for example. I don't know how the economics of that works out, but I certainly prefer it. Too bad girls like are a drop in the sea. But maybe it only works out for some also.Some turn around hunting, to stay fit with firm ass and beautiful legs, but they have pain in feet. Some make fat on ass, sitting smoking, rubbing ass on stool or couch but this is not a massage and blood don t move enough and teeth become yellow or dark. They lose their beauty for those who are pretty, making such money. Some spend their money for silicon, or Botox, or acid, or cocaine, and they will get lower business after like Roxana did, or will become monsters like at Wellcum, looking now like Sylvana daughter, when she was cute full natural with perfect firm small tits. A real pity, I was sad to see such look, and of course couldn't return with her, even I know the fire in bed she is, but after my visit at Globe on 1 August, I made a violent allergies to plastic = silicon, Botox.
I've spoken to countless girls at FKKs and one question I always ask them is if they smoke. If they say, I follow-up with why. The answer has been unanimous. To combat the stress of the job. So I asked how does stress manifest in your profession? They say it's simple. Whether they will meet the quota for the day or not. Quantify quota? Varies from girl to girl. Some target 500 over their entrance fee, while some have 2 K and above. So, the biggest factor is money.
Here's another one I never realized. Chronic rejection. They chase us and we turn them down. Now even though they appear defiant, they are just as much affected by rejection as we are (when we approach girls in the real world). Or to put it another way, it's like when you are looking for a job and sometimes all you get is a string of rejections from the companies. They have to do this for every client. Repeat this for 5 or 6 days a week, 52 weeks a year, I think it would take a toll on anyone. A smoke helps them combat the nervousness of approaching a stranger for a job and deal with rejection of employment..Yes, I had the same feedback by talking to FKK girls about smoking and stress. In some extreme cases, they even get into serious eating disorders and they look very sick. Paloma. Ro, for example, used to be a great beauty but now she is skin and bones and I feel sorry for her. If she starts eating again, I'm sure she will be beautiful again.
Some top girls, like Melissa. Ro, they have very high budget targets around 1 k / day and I believe she reaches it most of the days. However, I keep seeing girls who very rarely get a sessions and I wonder if they have someone else paying their entrance fee.
Yes, the reasons why many girls start doing this job can be different. One girl once told me he has to support his father, so she regularly sends him money. Other girls with low education are drawn into the business by 'boyfriends' because that is a quick way to get money fast and maybe open their own business at some point.
Rock.
Like dogs, 7 years for each year for us, and with cigarettes which are a drug. With my girls, when they smoke, I often take their cigarettes, sometimes even in their bag, then they ask me to give them back, they need so much, real drug, when no cocaine.Very stressful and hard for body and mind job for girls who are around 20 . When they go with a new client, they don't know what will happen, so when they found a good client, they are welcoming to repeat. After problems with Ariana, Megan asked me to start her day with me, she knew it would be a safe start and she would pay her entry and night only with me. Maybe why some run for Asians, because usually easy and safe, when some girls prefer to avoid night clients and not only drunk. For some, like Kate, worst is to wait when no client go to her, fortunately for her, not often, she may be the busiest at GT. Some girls say: some days are good, some days are bad, as told me Melissa. Some girls even ask for advises when they trust us. Can be a little bit proud for how Megan or Kate trust me.
The product. Here, it's their body. More personal than any sales job selling an inanimate object or service, no?True. But also same for fashion models, professional athletes, TV anchors among many others. Isn't it more important to make every effort to maintain and improve the body as beautiful and as much possible in shape when the product is their body, to reduce rejections during sales efforts?
True. But also same for fashion models, professional athletes, TV anchors among many others. Isn't it more important to make every effort to maintain and improve the body as beautiful and as much possible in shape when the product is their body, to reduce rejections during sales efforts?Even the prettiest girl gets rejected several times in an FKK. If rejection avoidance is the most important criterion a girl cannot work in FKK clubs.
In theory you are right that girls should stay as pretty and healthy as possible for business sustainability reasons. But many of them follow a different path and try to extract the maximum possible from uninformed, gullible mongers, especially of Asian persuasion as opposed to improving the "product".
Yesterday, I was visit this club. End did control about time that girls going to room with costumers. In lees than 10 minutes room door again open. (4 different girl) One girl making 3 costumers ready in less than 30 minutes. Taxi for 11 euro return to railway. Going with bus to this club. Intercity hotel is good option (60 euro).
Very stressful and hard for body and mind job for girls who are around 20 .............In my over forty years of pursuing this hobby I have found that the best stress relief for girls is for music that they like to be played while doing the act. Their service is even better.
I booked a trip to Germany several months in advance hoping to enjoy Sharks for a few days only to find out the club is being renovated LOL. Can anybody tell me if there are major disruptions there or it's something which is not affecting the overall experience? I will be there in two days.
In my over forty years of pursuing this hobby I have found that the best stress relief for girls is for music that they like to be played while doing the act. Their service is even better.For 40 years? Amazing. I start with escorts when I was 45 , and later in FKK land, but, like good french wine even I don t drink, I still improve my times for climbing on this Summer, even a bit disappointed by my time today from Prato to Stelvio, when I improved from Bormio to Stelvio, even starting in Bormio under 35 degrees, after 5 kms I lost all my water, good climbing time but I killed my body. I don t like when girls want to play music, room is not a discotheque for me, I prefer to look at their reactions, listen to noises even I don t care about moaning, but breathe, belly moving, liquid coming, how they put their body. And of course, when we enter the room, I try to make girls relax. Usually after 2 minutes, they let me do.
If it doesn't cost too much to change tickets, I would definitely visit after the renovation is done. The club feels much smaller and more crowded when it's busy like tonight. In reality, attendance is quite low for a Wednesday but I had a hard time to find a place to sit.
I booked a trip to Germany several months in advance hoping to enjoy Sharks for a few days only to find out the club is being renovated LOL. Can anybody tell me if there are major disruptions there or it's something which is not affecting the overall experience? I will be there in two days.
If it doesn't cost too much to change tickets, I would definitely visit after the renovation is done. The club feels much smaller and more crowded when it's busy like tonight. In reality, attendance is quite low for a Wednesday but I had a hard time to find a place to sit.Thanks. Too late to make any changes now. What about the number of girls? Are they still there or they are moving to other clubs during renovations? Which parts of the club are actually closed off?
GuyBrusg1957
08-15-19, 00:34
What are they remodeling and how long is it supposed to take?
Would I be able to bring a Bluetooth speaker and my cell phone into the club to play music.
Yes, I had the same feedback by talking to FKK girls about smoking and stress. In some extreme cases, they even get into serious eating disorders and they look very sick. Paloma. Ro, for example, used to be a great beauty but now she is skin and bones and I feel sorry for her. If she starts eating again, I'm sure she will be beautiful again.
Some top girls, like Melissa. Ro, they have very high budget targets around 1 k / day and I believe she reaches it most of the days. However, I keep seeing girls who very rarely get a sessions and I wonder if they have someone else paying their entrance fee.
Yes, the reasons why many girls start doing this job can be different. One girl once told me he has to support his father, so she regularly sends him money. Other girls with low education are drawn into the business by 'boyfriends' because that is a quick way to get money fast and maybe open their own business at some point.
Rock.Before we went to room, Melissa explained me she has good business days and lower days and she also moved to work elsewhere, not always full busy and even sometimes working until 5 am. Interesting to chat, maybe more than in bed. But, yes, some girls really don't seem busy at Sharks when they need to make more than 1 hour in room to pay entry, condom and cigarettes.
The bar, reception and VIP are going to be renovated, as I was told. Right now, the whole bar area is being demolished and rebuilt. The number of girls is much less than early July but you can still find plenty to have fun. Historically Aug is a low season as both customers and girls take vacations.
Thanks. Too late to make any changes now. What about the number of girls? Are they still there or they are moving to other clubs during renovations? Which parts of the club are actually closed off?
What are they remodeling and how long is it supposed to take?
Would I be able to bring a Bluetooth speaker and my cell phone into the club to play music.I always bring my speakers and it never was a problem. More difficult is to find a room without music background music so you can enjoy your own music.
Before we went to room, Melissa explained me she has good business days and lower days and she also moved to work elsewhere, not always full busy and even sometimes working until 5 am. Interesting to chat, maybe more than in bed. But, yes, some girls really don't seem busy at Sharks when they need to make more than 1 hour in room to pay entry, condom and cigarettes.Yes, Melissa is also great to talk to. She is one of the few FKK girls with a brain! I think she is in Austria now (GT Vienna or Babylon).
Rock.
BarryManila
08-15-19, 09:57
The bar, reception and VIP are going to be renovated, as I was told. Right now, the whole bar area is being demolished and rebuilt.I was at Sharks on Monday. Maybe only 40 girls. Some arriving girls disappeared immediately when they saw the construction work. Many of them were not informed by the Sharks-management. The general mood was somehow down, you could see it on the faces of the girls.
What are they remodeling and how long is it supposed to take?
Would I be able to bring a Bluetooth speaker and my cell phone into the club to play music.Verbotten telephone at Sharks. Come with your Ludwig drums and play solo. At Oase, a regular play kind of cimbals when girls dance on the bar. Music is played when bar is working.
WorldPeaceNow
08-15-19, 13:28
True. But also same for fashion models, professional athletes, TV anchors among many others. Isn't it more important to make every effort to maintain and improve the body as beautiful and as much possible in shape when the product is their body, to reduce rejections during sales efforts?Hey Gino,
I guess I wasn't too clear with "selling their body" statement. They are selling their body to have sex. We men may not have much emotions tied to it but for every girl, especially the 19 yo or 20 yo, it's not that easy to separate emotion and sex and look at it only from the perspective of a job / money. I think a girl becomes very professional after many years of doing this. At that time, they do act the way you are describing it. However, the journey to separate emotions and sex is not the same for every girl. Some make it and I guess, many don't. So while they learn how to navigate it, they resort to unhealthy habits.
Also, the professions you mentioned actually have a proper degree that one can obtain to gain skills in it. There is bachelors in communications, fashion, designing, media, and journalism. This is the navigation part that prepares a person to enter that profession. Wish there had been a bachelors in prostitution then the girls would be adequately prepared to deal with the hazards of this profession. And we punters can also hire girls graduating from Ivy Leagues for top service. LOL.
Anyway, I feel, in this profession, we men must associate emotions in a big way to understand what the girls are going through.
Cheers.
For 40 years? Amazing. I start with escorts when I was 45 , and later in FKK land, but, like good french wine even I don t drink, I still improve my times for climbing on this Summer, even a bit disappointed by my time today from Prato to Stelvio, when I improved from Bormio to Stelvio, even starting in Bormio under 35 degrees, after 5 kms I lost all my water, good climbing time but I killed my body. I don t like when girls want to play music, room is not a discotheque for me, I prefer to look at their reactions, listen to noises even I don t care about moaning, but breathe, belly moving, liquid coming, how they put their body. And of course, when we enter the room, I try to make girls relax. Usually after 2 minutes, they let me do.Cycling from Prato to Stelvio, I'm impressed. Without stopping / walking? Regarding music, I don't mind, if I like the music, if I don't, I ask for no mucic.
I was at Sharks on Monday. Maybe only 40 girls. Some arriving girls disappeared immediately when they saw the construction work. Many of them were not informed by the Sharks-management. The general mood was somehow down, you could see it on the faces of the girls.That was exactly my opinion on Monday except the few girls that remained "cleaned up" as they we being snapped up regularly.
Although it wasn't as bad as I thought the usual atmosphere was affected and as a result I won't be returning until the bar construction work is completed.
If they as rumored next reconstruct the reception area and VIP zone I won't be too bothered but the bar area is the focal part of the Club so I won't be returning until mid September.
Yes, Melissa is also great to talk to. She is one of the few FKK girls with a brain! I think she is in Austria now (GT Vienna or Babylon).
Rock.Yes, she is higher level than average to chat, not really in bed. She told me when business is slow she moves, not first time, but if she chose Vienna, she will come back. Even in Wellcum which is number 1 in Austria, business seemed slow on Ferragosto party which is the day of the year, many guys in the garden, many girls waiting, maybe because of really average casting, lack of pretty faces like at Sharks, but some really beautiful natural tits, and no Mila. Ro ex Marina. Slo for me, unfortunately, I wanted to test her, to know if it was real at the end of our single room, if she remembers. Also met at GT. De, 2 really lovely GT Vienna girls with higher level in bed than Melissa, they told business in Vienna is not anymore what it was, maybe because too much upselling there. No upselling for both at Bruggen.
Cycling from Prato to Stelvio, I'm impressed. Without stopping / walking? Regarding music, I don't mind, if I like the music, if I don't, I ask for no mucic.Stelvio Cima Coppi 2760 high is 24 kms from Prato with superb road with curves on last 8 kms, legend in Italia. In Romania, they have something like Gafarasan also with many curves. Stelvio from Bormio is shorter, 21,5 kms, but 3 last kms over 2500 high after passo Umbrail to enter Switzerland without control, are more difficult, but nothing compare to legendary Mortirolo and Zoncolan which are not on Col Gentile di Mione 28% climbing difficulty. I nearly killed my car engine climbing, not human for a car, but I m happy of my new playfield found, it will take me one more Summer to get used to such violent pain burning in body and head, but if car, even nearly in red zone for refreshing engine liquid, could climb, I also want to climb with my passion, even 34/36 is not so easy. When I m with Davide Formolo who is Peter Sagan Bora team leader on Giro, he worth between top 5 and 10 on legendary Giro of Italia, for my holidays on Stelvio and also with Swedish women ski team, I m sure he won t come to play in cemetery col Gentile. My Summer holidays since years, to relax, like free riding the most difficult spots I can reach on Winter, Verbier, La Grave, and as reminds me Kate, maybe one day Alaska jumping from helicopter. Great holidays to dream and relax mind, FKK can t compete and my girls know. After they can touch my belly or ass and say: You are very hard, for sure they don t see so many fit, even among 20's guys, and of course it helps for bed.
GuyBrusg1957
08-16-19, 03:55
Any ideas how long the remodel is suppose to take?
BarryManila
08-16-19, 07:30
Although it wasn't as bad as I thought the usual atmosphere was affected and as a result I won't be returning until the bar construction work is completed.That is exactly what my thoughts are, Canary. I will not be back until the bar is finished.
I was at Sharks on Monday. Maybe only 40 girls. Some arriving girls disappeared immediately when they saw the construction work. Many of them were not informed by the Sharks-management. The general mood was somehow down, you could see it on the faces of the girls.Not nice when girls have to pay more than 100 to enter to work + taxi or sleeping. Until when are works? Bar was perfect to turn around whole day for 15 hours to train to marathon for me. Works were longer than told at Oase, for no big improvement for me, I even lost sky sports news screen in lounge for only porn now. I'm happy at Sharks, no porn on screens, only real sports. Best improvement would be some pretty girls. They didn't take discount ticket for entry only 45 on Monday?
You may want to avoid FKKs around Frankfurt starting September 12th and the following 10 days.
That was exactly my opinion on Monday except the few girls that remained "cleaned up" as they we being snapped up regularly.
Although it wasn't as bad as I thought the usual atmosphere was affected and as a result I won't be returning until the bar construction work is completed.
If they as rumored next reconstruct the reception area and VIP zone I won't be too bothered but the bar area is the focal part of the Club so I won't be returning until mid September.
That was exactly my opinion on Monday except the few girls that remained "cleaned up" as they we being snapped up regularly.
Although it wasn't as bad as I thought the usual atmosphere was affected and as a result I won't be returning until the bar construction work is completed.
If they as rumored next reconstruct the reception area and VIP zone I won't be too bothered but the bar area is the focal part of the Club so I won't be returning until mid September.I agree never been in the VIP zone and the reception area doesn't make a difference. You think it won't be until mid September when the bar is reopened?
Member #4636
08-16-19, 16:00
DE blonde, anyone knows if she is still in Sharks? I will be there first week of September.
Thanks.
Until when are works? Rumours are renovations are completed within three weeks from start-up. So around 1st September? It for sure will be completed within start of the auto show (IAA Exhibition) which this year is from 12th till 22nd September. If not, it would be extreme mismanagement.
Rumours are renovations are completed within three weeks from start-up. So around 1st September? It for sure will be completed within start of the auto show (IAA Exhibition) which this year is from 12th till 22nd September. If not, it would be extreme mismanagement.So they have until 11 September to finish. I remember IAA 2015 when I met Karolina. Pol, Ester started at Sharks at this time, no big business at Sharks from IAA 2015. I think Oase and Palace are clubs which get the most from messes.
I agree never been in the VIP zone and the reception area doesn't make a difference. You think it won't be until mid September when the bar is reopened?If they have any sense, in my opinion: They'll take that entire so-called "VIP Area" and re-construct the whole deck into a number of new rooms.
If they have any sense, in my opinion: They'll take that entire so-called "VIP Area" and re-construct the whole deck into a number of new rooms.On my last visit, when we arrived upstairs with Angel, a girl was already waiting, so we went to Vip zone, a room with jacuzzi was free, we did foreplay in jacuzzi, my first time with jacuzzi at Sharks, no extra to pay, but not my first room in VIP zone, never paid any extra. Enjoyable 1h30 for 150 with Angel. I think 3 or 4 rooms in this zone. Most important to improve at Sharks for me, when the club is good for me, is the casting. More beauties.
If they have any sense, in my opinion: They'll take that entire so-called "VIP Area" and re-construct the whole deck into a number of new rooms.Perhaps the VIP Area gets more use than we all realise? Anyone know if it does? I have to agree that from my limited number of visits the area appears to be mostly unused.
If they have any sense, in my opinion: They'll take that entire so-called "VIP Area" and re-construct the whole deck into a number of new rooms.More importantly, hopefully they obtained city permits to make these changes this time. Otherwise they might end up with another massage area like the entrance of the now defunct 5-6 nice ground floor backside rooms (that were built about a year back) became LOL. Such a waste of such nicer rooms!
DE blonde, anyone knows if she is still in Sharks? I will be there first week of September.
Thanks.I heard she has moved to another club.
I heard she has moved to another club.Mandy returned to Stuttgart? She tried GT while ago, but didn't stay. Would be loss for Sharks, even not pretty enough for me, but nice behavior. I thought she got good business at Sharks, maybe too many only 50.
If they have any sense, in my opinion: They'll take that entire so-called "VIP Area" and re-construct the whole deck into a number of new rooms.I've always been intrigued as to how much the VIP area costs as there's no info on the website and during my numerous visits to Sharks I've never seen anyone use it.
Probably a waste of money for me as it's money that could be better spent on "entertainment" with the ladies but as I said the cost and facilities have always interested me as I know very little about the so called VIP area.
Kosher Kowboy
08-17-19, 08:07
I heard she has moved to another club.Guys, I am sorry to report that Mandy was so impressed with the cars that Gino rents when he comes to Europe that she took off with him for good and Gino and I have teamed up and we will be getting married to Mandy, Amira and Diana in a 5 way wedding ceremony that will be held at Freude in Bochum where there is plenty of seating for all. The owner of Freude is requesting that all men dress in tuxedos and shower shoes. Gino and I are trying to switch the venue to Dietzenbach for the day so more men from Hessen can come and I have a plumber on call 24/7 now for when ' the hot water breaks' and I also have a carpenter I have hired to repair the three broken couches where the footers have broken.
Gino and I have also enrolled Diana and Amira in one of London's top English schools so we have delayed the wedding until the late summer of 2021 and Gino and I will spend the next 6 months studying Romanian in Bucharest and we will be enrolling in German school in Duisburg for the 6 months after that as it is very cheap to live there. All languages will be covered and for full communication without any of the girls pimps using their FB IM or WhatsApps and the honeymoon will be held in Milan and Venice and all are welcome to come enjoy it with us as we need as many ' vashers' as possible. Danke.
The Garden of Eden in Dietzenbach has agreed to close for the day so the after ceremony festivities can be held there; we hope all of you can attend. :D
Guys, I am sorry to report that Mandy was so impressed with the cars that Gino rents when he comes to Europe that she took off with him for good and Gino and I have teamed up and we will be getting married to Mandy, Amira and Diana in a 5 way wedding ceremony that will be held at Freude in Bochum where there is plenty of seating for all. The owner of Freude is requesting that all men dress in tuxedos and shower shoes. Gino and I are trying to switch the venue to Dietzenbach for the day so more men from Hessen can come and I have a plumber on call 24/7 now for when ' the hot water breaks' and I also have a carpenter I have hired to repair the three broken couches where the footers have broken.
Gino and I have also enrolled Diana and Amira in one of London's top English schools so we have delayed the wedding until the late summer of 2021 and Gino and I will spend the next 6 months studying Romanian in Bucharest and we will be enrolling in German school in Duisburg for the 6 months after that as it is very cheap to live there. All languages will be covered and for full communication without any of the girls pimps using their FB IM or WhatsApps and the honeymoon will be held in Milan and Venice and all are welcome to come enjoy it with us as we need as many ' vashers' as possible. Danke.
The Garden of Eden in Dietzenbach has agreed to close for the day so the after ceremony festivities can be held there; we hope all of you can attend. Even I never repeated with her, because no wow for look nor in bed, only really trying to please for sex, German profile, lack of emotions compare to some Romanians, but I find not fair, according to her nice behavior, to associate her with low level girls used to be fucked AO in less than 15 mn by more than 10 guys each day in low level risky for health RTC. Mandy worth higher level for my single experience with her. So You don t know where she moved? If she is not just on holidays, holidays time.
Rumours are renovations are completed within three weeks from start-up.What I can't work out from the rumours is if it's 3 weeks for the bar or 3 weeks in total I. E. It's possible the bar will be finished sooner.
Doesn't sound like they are installing AC which seems to be most people complaints. Apart from the slow service I had no problem with the bar area.
Member #4636
08-17-19, 15:42
Guys, I am sorry to report that Mandy was so impressed with the cars that Gino rents when he comes to Europe that she took off with him for good and Gino and I have teamed up and we will be getting married to Mandy, Amira and Diana in a 5 way wedding ceremony that will be held at Freude in Bochum where there is plenty of seating for all. The owner of Freude is requesting that all men dress in tuxedos and shower shoes. Gino and I are trying to switch the venue to Dietzenbach for the day so more men from Hessen can come and I have a plumber on call 24/7 now for when ' the hot water breaks' and I also have a carpenter I have hired to repair the three broken couches where the footers have broken.
Gino and I have also enrolled Diana and Amira in one of London's top English schools so we have delayed the wedding until the late summer of 2021 and Gino and I will spend the next 6 months studying Romanian in Bucharest and we will be enrolling in German school in Duisburg for the 6 months after that as it is very cheap to live there. All languages will be covered and for full communication without any of the girls pimps using their FB IM or WhatsApps and the honeymoon will be held in Milan and Venice and all are welcome to come enjoy it with us as we need as many ' vashers' as possible. Danke. And I guess the bachelor party will be held in Sharks? LOL.
So they have until 11 September to finish. I remember IAA 2015 when I met Karolina. Pol, Ester started at Sharks at this time, no big business at Sharks from IAA 2015. I think Oase and Palace are clubs which get the most from messes.That is my experience as well, I have taken refuge at Sharks during Messes. Oase and Palace become somewhat sausage fests; hopefully, IAA 2019 will resuscitate Mainhatten.
Adding to KK's post and invite below, FYI guys, Mandy is looking a for a church to turn to. If you can recommend a nice, fun and accepting church in Hesse or NRW or somewhere in bewteen, that would be great. She realized that religious beliefs are one of the core values of an embracing social group, and getting ready and looking forward for the upcoming 5-way wedding.
Also, we are about to start taking applications for someone to perform the wedding ceremony, so please send your applications (free-form, write what you like but please add your relevant credentials and experiences) directly to KK who is final decision maker to select the minister. Vielen dank.
Kosher Kowboy
08-17-19, 18:31
Also, we are about to start taking applications for someone to perform the wedding ceremony, so please send your applications (free-form, write what you like but please add your relevant credentials and experiences) directly to KK who is final decision maker to select the minister. Vielen dank.Already picked out.
As to the minister, who else? Alice!! I can't guarantee she will be on time so Ina will be present to fill in as needed as she most certainly will be in attendance as will all the Gypsies from Dietzenbach; and one of those vans who drives the girls around to the different clubs when they need to staff them will bring in the ones I fancy from up in the NRW.
The best men will be Amira's manager, Diana's manager (both are no problem for me to send the invite to) and as to Mandy I don't know her very well like the other two and will defer to you to pick the third best man.
As to the bridesmaids I will have Dana and Anna (no worries, Dana will make sure Anna is ready on time, can promise that) and I reckon it should be quite easy for you to get the third bridesmaid which shall be Evita.
And can't forget the photographer. Give me some time to work on that I need to try to work some magic as I would really like to find Bitumen to do the honours; no one out there can handle videos and photos as well as him. I'll try to locate him if you don't mind.
In the meantime careful driving your fancy cars, my friends radar was going off nonstop on the A3 the other day (coming south).
Hi guys,
Just want to share my adventure today, I've been reading a lot the threads lately, so I'm kind of giving back to the community.
I decided to test as much FKK as I can in one day while I stay in Frankfurt the weekend. Not pushing too hard, but just moving on when I was done in one place, going to another.
So I did Sharks, then Oase, and then Palace.
Well my overall impression is that the best experience was at Sharks.
When I go to an FKK, I wish to find girls with amazing looks. So the LU is important for me, I want to have choice and good options.
The LU at Sharks was the richest one between the three.
I came early this Saturday, around 14:00 and there was about 25 girls. Just a bit less guys. Girls kept arriving, they were more when I left around 18:00. Also it was the only place where there was no upsell, I got a nice service from girls, even though I did 30 mn sessions.
Yes, there is an ongoing renovation, the girl at the entry warned me right as I was preparing my entry fee, but it did not bother me anyhow.
And last, the food was shity. Seriously don't go there for food. It was meals from the breakfast until 17:00, a crab salad with smoked salmon mixed in, juices, mozzarella and overgrilled sausages.
I had 2 sessions at sharks. Both were good. I don't remember the name of the first girl, but the second was roxy.
She is a stunner. Really my type, amazing big ass, nice tits, a firm body, very lovely and willing to satisfy, BBBJ, also funny to chat with.
I wish I had taken more time with her, because the rest of the girls that I met later where no match.
I don't want to review Oase and Palace here, but just to give you guys a comparison, I visited them later in the night. Oase at 19:30 and Palace around 22, there was no match in terms of LU, it was way worse.
And the upselling was there every time. It peaced me off, especially after having a good service at normal rate, next time I'll just stick longer at sharks waiting for another shift of girls.
There are those that work in the day, and others that come for night time, so it changes.
Also, in terms of disposition, I feel like there are more options where to stay and to move at sharks. It's easy to change places and viewing spots, as there are different corners, areas, stairs, etc.
Anyway I guess you guys understood. Today my preference went to sharks. Will share later when I visit another time. Cheers!
On the Sharks website there is a note.
We build for you!
Until 22.08. 19.
Counter currently under renovation. Drinks in the outdoor area.
So looks like the bar will be back soon.
Hi guys, Just want to share my adventure todayThanks for the report, very much appreciated.
On the Sharks website there is a note.
We build for you!
Until 22.08. 19.
Counter currently under renovation. Drinks in the outdoor area.
So looks like the bar will be back soon.Thanks Saturn11. Great to read that the renovation work at Sharks will complete soon.
Hi guys,
Well my overall impression is that the best experience was at Sharks.
Also it was the only place where there was no upsell, I got a nice service from girls, even though I did 30 mn sessions.
. Cheers!What was the fee for 30 min & what was the service? For all my visits to Sharks & Oase after the new law 30 min was 50 E for basic covered service, It was always extra for BBBJ & kissing.
In the meantime careful driving your fancy cars, my friends radar was going off nonstop on the A3 the other day (coming south).Europcar just sent me the 20 E each bill for two tickets on the A3 from my May visit. They nailed me for gong 6 & 7 KM over the limit on the A3 somewhere around the Neustadt area.
Hi everyone,
First post here on ISG. I'll be traveling to Frankfurt in a couple months and would like to find out which days would be best to go to Sharks. Would Fridays and Saturdays have the hottest girls or not necessarily? Also, does Sharks really close daily at 4 or 5 pm? Those are the hours listed on their website and that's really surprising to me that they don't operate into the night. Thanks for any information and of course I'll be reporting back when I return from Frankfurt. Thanks!
M.
What was the fee for 30 min & what was the service? For all my visits to Sharks & Oase after the new law 30 min was 50 E for basic covered service, It was always extra for BBBJ & kissing.Sharks and Oase and many other clubs rate is 50/30 with kissing and natural BJ which is still very standard in Germany. Maybe not at Artemis Berlin but I never experienced there. At Oase, desk will inform You about this rate.
Europcar just sent me the 20 E each bill for two tickets on the A3 from my May visit. They nailed me for gong 6 & 7 KM over the limit on the A3 somewhere around the Neustadt area.Hi. There is a separate thread on car hire in Germany which you might find useful. The 20 euro bill for each infringement is the car hire company "admin" charge for telling Police you were the driver. If you were only 7 kph over the limit on A3 it is very unlikely you will get a fine for speeding.
Tokoum. Don't forget for your next exploration there is a whole host of other clubs to explore which, being off the main tourist circuit, can offer something different in terms of service / price levels.
Hi everyone,
In Frankfurt today, and I am between going to Sharks and Palace. I have been to Palace about 3 years ago, and enjoyed my time there (still had a pool, as I read it has been redone).
As there is a renovation at Sharks, I am a bit worried about going there to find a poor LU, and it is Monday. August.
Any tips?
HungryStud101
08-19-19, 12:43
Hi. There is a separate thread on car hire in Germany which you might find useful. The 20 euro bill for each infringement is the car hire company "admin" charge for telling Police you were the driver. If you were only 7 kph over the limit on A3 it is very unlikely you will get a fine for speeding.Interesting. I bitched to the corporate travel Dept. About the charge and they contacted someone in Avis and all of a sudden there was no charge. Hell, I couldn't read it.
Interesting. I bitched to the corporate travel Dept. About the charge and they contacted someone in Avis and all of a sudden there was no charge. Hell, I couldn't read it.They can easily waive the charge if they want. Guess it depends how valuable the customer is: corporate customers will have the edge here.
AlexEurope
08-19-19, 15:07
What was the fee for 30 min & what was the service? For all my visits to Sharks & Oase after the new law 30 min was 50 E for basic covered service, It was always extra for BBBJ & kissing.I never ever had to pay extra for BBBJ at 50 EUR sessions in last 2-3 years. You just have to negotiate it before going into room. I only remember one girl who refused it. Out of many. And I mean many.
Of course there are some girls who only do 100/30, but that's a different story.
Hi everyone,
First post here on ISG. I'll be traveling to Frankfurt in a couple months and would like to find out which days would be best to go to Sharks. Would Fridays and Saturdays have the hottest girls or not necessarily? Also, does Sharks really close daily at 4 or 5 pm? Those are the hours listed on their website and that's really surprising to me that they don't operate into the night. Thanks for any information and of course I'll be reporting back when I return from Frankfurt. Thanks!
M.You are misreading the website, it's 4 am and 5 am it closes.
Saturday will have the most girls but also the most men, so you might have to wait for a room. Fridays are busy also.
SoberWorld
08-19-19, 20:28
Sharks and Oase and many other clubs rate is 50/30 with kissing and natural BJ which is still very standard in Germany. Maybe not at Artemis Berlin but I never experienced there. At Oase, desk will inform You about this rate.Hey. Just wanted to add that most girls will tell you plain off that there's no kissing at 60 for 30 minutes at Artemis. Maybe its an add on. I am not sure but basic is CBJ and sex.
I am a regular at Artemis and have a select few who I go with and get the service I want all inclusive at 60 for 30 minutes and no upsell. I don't do anal or CIM which is an extra for sure but not my taste.
I still remember my first time in Berlin and at Artemis when the girl says what the fuck are you doing trying to kiss me. That's not part of it. I was so shocked that I just used my hand to finish and left the room embarrassed not knowing what the rules were.
Then figured out how so many men ask for kissing and the women would loudly say NO kissing. Just to embassy them.
ExpatLover
08-19-19, 22:21
Hey. Just wanted to add that most girls will tell you plain off that there's no kissing at 60 for 30 minutes at Artemis. Maybe its an add on. I am not sure but basic is CBJ and sex.
I am a regular at Artemis and have a select few who I go with and get the service I want all inclusive at 60 for 30 minutes and no upsell. I don't do anal or CIM which is an extra for sure but not my taste.
I still remember my first time in Berlin and at Artemis when the girl says what the fuck are you doing trying to kiss me. That's not part of it. I was so shocked that I just used my hand to finish and left the room embarrassed not knowing what the rules were.
Then figured out how so many men ask for kissing and the women would loudly say NO kissing. Just to embassy them.Most of the time I will not kiss a prostitute even she often propose it for free (usually I do long rooms) not my cup of tea knowing that she just sucked so many dicks.
GuyBrusg1957
08-20-19, 03:52
You may want to avoid FKKs around Frankfurt starting September 12th and the following 10 days.Why would visiting during the auto show be a bad thing?
Member #4636
08-20-19, 05:25
Most of the time I will not kiss a prostitute even she often propose it for free (usually I do long rooms) not my cup of tea knowing that she just sucked so many dicks.You don't have to think about that. What about when you lick her knowing that so many dicks fucked her?
Most of the time I will not kiss a prostitute even she often propose it for free (usually I do long rooms) not my cup of tea knowing that she just sucked so many dicks.Apparently human saliva is more lethal than a dog's. That's why a doctor prefers to be told a patient has been bitten by a dog and not a human. So your conclusion is rational. Me, I just take my chances as to where the girl I am in love with for 30 minutes has been.:)
I never ever had to pay extra for BBBJ at 50 EUR sessions in last 2-3 years. You just have to negotiate it before going into room. I only remember one girl who refused it. Out of many. And I mean many.
Of course there are some girls who only do 100/30, but that's a different story.I guess you have many sessions you could report on if you wished, but prefer not to. But I wonder if you might be willing maybe say whether you got the BBBJ service included in 50430 sessions: I am not sure if I have read your report correctly.This would help members like me who do not go to FKK so much
Thanks.
On the Sharks website there is a note.
We build for you!
Until 22.08. 19.
Counter currently under renovation. Drinks in the outdoor area.
So looks like the bar will be back soon.I can't find this information on their website (maybe they deleted the information?) Can someone please confirm? Planning to make a trip really soon.
AlexEurope
08-20-19, 17:56
I guess you have many sessions you could report on if you wished, but prefer not to. But I wonder if you might be willing maybe say whether you got the BBBJ service included in 50430 sessions: I am not sure if I have read your report correctly.This would help members like me who do not go to FKK so much
Thanks.I do not go to FKK much either. In last 2-3 years I probably had 50-70 rooms, more than half of this with 2 girls at a time. Because it's always more fun for me. Some girls were / are sometimes repeated, so I assume probably 100 different girls, maybe a bit less or more. Say, 70% in Sharks, 20% in Oase, 10% in LR and GT.
Most of these sessions were / are 50430 for each girl. In all these sessions I always had BBBJ included. The only thing that changed after the introduction of new law is when I decide to take a girl to the room, I always ask something like "I hope BBBJ is not a problem for you? Answers may be "sure" or "I usually don't do it, but with you it's no problem", but it's always "yes".
I only recall one girl who insisted on extra, she got no deal from me. So 1 of maybe 100. I'm not Brad Pitt, I'm average looking guy in early 40's.
I'm always up to 50430. More than 30 minutes with the same girl is boring for me. I've tried 1 hour once but then just stopped it after 40 minutes. Too long. Next girl please. 30 minutes is a sweet spot for me.
I'm not a big fan of paying 100430, as service is the same. I've tried 50430 and 100430 with the same girls, just to see if it would be different. It's the same. Great provider is still great for 50.
Still some girls charge 100430 and just don't do 50430 rooms at all. It's alright for me if I'm really attracted to the girl or if I get some nice extra (for example I had 100+100430 session with Jessica and her friend (probably Eylis was the name, but I'm not 100% sure. Anyway they are hanging together a lot, so regulars can correct me if I'm wrong about the name). That was a major fun. The only time I've got real lesbi action in FKK during threesome. One girl would really eat other's pussy, not just giving "Romanian kisses" while being banged in doggie etc. Worth every penny. Highly recommended. Will probably repeat some time. Damn, now I recall how good it was and I think I will repeat it next time I'm it Sharks. I'm not that much attracted by Jessica's face (another girl is more pretty), but that threesome action was great.
With 100430 you obviously don't have to negotiate BBBJ. One girl (Vanessa) tried to give me CBJ in 100430 session (was not worth 100, it's no more than 50 girl). When she did it I've just laughed and said "WTF, baby? Are you kidding me? Take it away. " She laughed back and performed BBBJ with no problem.
So my summary is: BBBJ is included it 50430 sessions at Sharks with basically every 50430 girl if you dare to negotiate it.
The front page of the website still says "expected until 22.08" (translation).
The front page of the website still says "expected until 22.08" (translation).Thank you! Then I will maybe go this weekend.
I have been to FKK in Dusseldorf, Berlin and Roermond.
Do you guys know if the girls are back in the clubs around Frankfurt?
Would you recommend any club over the other because of the late holiday in Germany?
Have been thinking to visit Sharks, Oase and Mainhattan / palace.
Do you recommend me to make my FKK debut in Frankfurt in the end of September instead?
Thanks.
Apparently human saliva is more lethal than a dog's. That's why a doctor prefers to be told a patient has been bitten by a dog and not a human. So your conclusion is rational. Me, I just take my chances as to where the girl I am in love with for 30 minutes has been.Saliva kill bacteria. If I don't want to kiss a girl, I don't want to have sex with her and I don't want she touches me.
Why would visiting during the auto show be a bad thing?No, it will be full casting because girls want messe business, but messe give mostly business to Oase, Palace and a bit Mainhattan, more than Sharks.
IAA should be good casting time.
Der Auslander
08-20-19, 22:57
Thanks for checking Optimist. Good to know.
Why would visiting during the auto show be a bad thing?More guys than girls, skyrocketing price on Hotels etc.
So my summary is: BBBJ is included it 50430 sessions at Sharks with basically every 50430 girl if you dare to negotiate it.Thank you for typing all this up. As Optimist says, this helps the rest of us who don't go that often.
I put you in the category of the guys that exude confidence, seem fun, and are easy to be with. They generally get more than other guys. Maybe it's the way you look at the ladies, or how you greet. This is the essence of the YMMV, rubrik. Maybe they remember seeing you and so it's OK. You take two girls, so there is always the promise of more money spent later. It's easy and breaks up the boredom. The next guy could take one of the two girls and she looks at him and says NAH, CBJ, and that's just the way it goes. Maybe you show them a bit of respect when you talk to them. I seem to always luck out with kissing. Had girls say they don't kiss and tell me in the reviews not to include that they kissed me. (and I'm really old, maybe it's PITY).
There are so many intangibles, but bottom line, for the rest of us, is that if you ask for it and they say no, you understand that the next girl "might" say yes. I am sure we have all seen the type of guy go up and say 50 for 30 minute fuck, let's go and then they wonder why the girls starts out unfriendly or very mechanical. You have a quick amount of time during the meet and greet and the walk to the room to get them to feel you care about them. At least for 30 minutes. Ths goes a long way in this sex world. On the other hand, I think Kosher Kowboy in a Frankfurt post talked about a lady who wanted 10 Euros more for covered French: "Takes longer to get a guy to come". .
GuyBrusg1957
08-21-19, 00:29
No, it will be full casting because girls want messe business, but messe give mostly business to Oase, Palace and a bit Mainhattan, more than Sharks.
IAA should be good casting time.What do you mean by casting? Or are you say the girls will work at the others clubs and not Sharks?
Here's another one I never realized. Chronic rejection. They chase us and we turn them down. Now even though they appear defiant, they are just as much affected by rejection as we are (when we approach girls in the real world). Or to put it another way, it's like when you are looking for a job and sometimes all you get is a string of rejections from the companies. They have to do this for every client. Repeat this for 5 or 6 days a week, 52 weeks a year, I think it would take a toll on anyone. A smoke helps them combat the nervousness of approaching a stranger for a job and deal with rejection of employment.If a WG is legitimately above average attractiveness, even a 95 percent rejection rate at FKKs would not shake her self-esteem or as you say "take a toll on her". At a big club like Sharks, I would say easily 60-70 percent of the LU, if they were to be compared to civilian counterparts of the same age group, would be in the top ten percentile of physical attractiveness.
Let's say such a WG gets rejected by 30 mongers in one day and only gets two 60 min rooms. The very next day she can post something to social media and get 200 likes from various strangers. Or she can go to a civilian nightclub and have a one-night stand with a 25 year old civilian male who is physically more attractive than all 30 mongers who rejected her the previous day. Even a girl who is an optics "6" or "7" can create a profile on Tinder, and three hours later, she will have a few hundred to a thousand likes. Statistically there will probably be a man amongst those Tinder likes who is richer than all 30 mongers that rejected her the previous day. My point is that the rejection she faces in the FKK club can be instantly cancelled out by the positive feedback loop she receives the moment she steps back into the real world.
Also there could also be many reasons why a monger would reject a WG that are not due to her being ugly or fat. Sometimes it comes down to timing. For instance, my first 60-90 minutes, I may choose to say "no" or "maybe later" to every WG, simply because I want to survey the entire LU and identify my top three targets. I may so "no" to the hottest WG in the LU because my ATF just returned from a 18 month break. I may say "no" or "maybe later" to the second hottest WG in the LU, if for instance, (1) I just popped 30 minutes previous or (2) I plan to be in the club another ten hours that day, and I want to remain free and available for the hottest WG that day (I. E. Be ready to pounce as soon as her whale pays her at the money locker).
What hurts is the fact that she only made 200 EUR the previous day, not that 95 percent of the mongers rejected her. Now if we were to change the numbers slightly and say our hypothetical WG was rejected 30 times but got two five hour rooms, that same 95 percent rejection rate probably wouldn't affect her one bit.
ExpatLover
08-21-19, 02:20
Saliva kill bacteria. If I don't want to kiss a girl, I don't want to have sex with her and I don't want she touches me.Not always working well, what about viruses? Also I don t kiss girls that I pay for having sex it is not only a question of getting sick.
ExpatLover
08-21-19, 02:30
You don't have to think about that. What about when you lick her knowing that so many dicks fucked her?I hope the girls I am going with are not doing AO, therefor it is not the same for me than to getting DT without condom, or so many load of sperms in the month. For me the longest part of my FKK life is behind me, I am more focusing on normal relations, selected escorts, hopefully after so many years of mongering I understood that you just can buy mechanical sex which is a bit too short for me. For me me since 2017, when I started to control my sex addiction, so many other more positive things to experience outside the FKK scene like time to do more sport, time to have more hobbies, over landing for example, travelling around the world, more time for my family and on top of that I saved a lot of cash.
This repeating discussion of what's included in a 30 minutes session for 50 e is pretty much redundant by now. Anyone who is just average level in negotiating prices of any service in outside life, will also get the standard 30 min 50e service inside FKK, which includes BBBJ, DATY, DFK etc etc with only extra being CIM (50 e) and Anal (100 e) from almost all girls in any German FKK including Sharks, Oase etc. I got that in numerous visits in both clubs in last month and also this month. Only one girl in Sharks asked extra 50 e for BBBJ, obviously I didn't go with her. If I can get full standard service for 50 e for 30 minutes, any bozo can get that too, I'm not any smarter than an average bozo. But if anyone likes to spend more on the same service, that's his choice I guess.
ExpatLover
08-21-19, 03:53
This repeating discussion of what's included in a 30 minutes session for 50 e is pretty much redundant by now. Anyone who is just average level in negotiating prices of any service in outside life, will also get the standard 30 min 50e service inside FKK, which includes BBBJ, DATY, DFK etc etc with only extra being CIM (50 e) and Anal (100 e) from almost all girls in any German FKK including Sharks, Oase etc. I got that in numerous visits in both clubs in last month and also this month. Only one girl in Sharks asked extra 50 e for BBBJ, obviously I didn't go with her. If I can get full standard service for 50 e for 30 minutes, any bozo can get that too, I'm not any smarter than an average bozo. But if anyone likes to spend more on the same service, that's his choice I guess.I think you are a real Latin lover, I can never get with a new girl (with a veteran ***** it is not a problem) for my first session with her a BBBJ for 50, but I am old, dirty.
What do you mean by casting? Or are you say the girls will work at the others clubs and not Sharks?Most of girls will return for IAA business, but this business seem more for Oase than Sharks. No crowd on IAA 2015 at Sharks, lucky to have Karolina. Pol very free for me, even crying from her pimp messages.
More guys than girls, skyrocketing price on Hotels etc.Crowded only on evening and not much anymore.
BarryManila
08-21-19, 07:26
The front page of the website still says "expected until 22.08" (translation).Latest information of the management: The completion of the project will take longer than until 22.08.
I think you are a real Latin lover, I can never get with a new girl (with a veteran ***** it is not a problem) for my first session with her a BBBJ for 50, but I am old, dirty.I'm with Gino on this one. In a large club like Sharks, you can always find a number of girls who will provide BBBJ and some kissing for 50. Sure, some girls will not but many others will. One just needs patience and persistence.
Latest information of the management: The completion of the project will take longer than until 22.08.Oase works also took much longer time than planned. Quite slow business until Friday 30 August, still holidays time.
I think you are a real Latin lover, I can never get with a new girl (with a veteran ***** it is not a problem) for my first session with her a BBBJ for 50, but I am old, dirty.Not sure profile name is always according to who is behind. I m not Russian, even I love Russia for culture, women and of course museum town Peter. US are so poor culture compare to Russia and I really loved to learn Russian at school. Long time ago but I didn't forget.
This repeating discussion of what's included in a 30 minutes session for 50 e is pretty much redundant by now. Anyone who is just average level in negotiating prices of any service in outside life, will also get the standard 30 min 50e service inside FKK, which includes BBBJ, DATY, DFK etc etc with only extra being CIM (50 e) and Anal (100 e) from almost all girls in any German FKK including Sharks, Oase etc. I got that in numerous visits in both clubs in last month and also this month. Only one girl in Sharks asked extra 50 e for BBBJ, obviously I didn't go with her. If I can get full standard service for 50 e for 30 minutes, any bozo can get that too, I'm not any smarter than an average bozo. But if anyone likes to spend more on the same service, that's his choice I guess.I concur. It's not that hard at all.
But did you find it just as easy at Palace and Mainhattan as at World / Sharks / Oase?
And will it be just as easy on high attendance days during exhibtions in September when F / M ratios are all wrong as it is during summer months?
HungryStud101
08-21-19, 20:54
I concur. It's not that hard at all.
But did you find it just as easy at Palace and Mainhattan as at World / Sharks / Oase?
And will it be just as easy on high attendance days during exhibtions in September when F / M ratios are all wrong as it is during summer months?At Sharks.
At least for me. It is true that you can find plenty of girls that will give this for 50 E /30 minutes but there are plenty that will hold out for an hour 100 E /60 minutes and then there is a third group that is holding out for 100 E /30 minutes but will allow CIM too. And then there were even a few that wanted 100 E /30 minutes and if you CIM they wanted another 50 E! I have to go look at my old report and it was last but that is what I remember and Simon2001 was there as my witness. I We said hell no to those girls. I did another girl (the Brazilian blond the Guacha) that balked at my 100 E / hour at first. She finally relented and gave in. During the session, while she was giving me Russian with her oiled boobs, that if I came on her body that would be another 30 E. Repeat customers may be different. One girl that would only do 100 E /1 hour session gave me second session for 50 E /30 min the next week.
I don't speak German. I get over once or twice a year.
Oh and I write reports wherever and whenever I have paid sex with escorts all over the world.
WetWetWet18
08-22-19, 16:10
Asian Bruddah,
The rate is 50 Euro for 30 minutes. The Standard service is blow job with condom and intercourse with condom. Some girls will give you a blow job without condom and intercourse with condom. Some guys prefer blow job with condom because they don't want a chance catch anything. They maybe married or it is just their preference. Talk to the girl and ask her what service she will provide before you go to the room.
If the girl is very attractive or high demand, she may want 100 Euro for 30 minutes for Standard service.
Usually, 100 Euro will get you 60 minutes. The girl will usually provide blow job without condom, kissing (sometimes deep French kissing), sometimes licking your balls and 69 then intercourse with condom. Talk to the girl and ask her what service she will provide before you go to the room.
If you think you will cum quickly, I would only look for a girl that will be okay with 50 Euro for 30 minutes. Most girls will only allow you to cum Once. You should plan on having sex with 3 girls. 150 - 300 Euros. Best deal in the World.
The rule is: If you paid for 30 minutes of time, you are entitled to that. German's are sticklers about rules however it's up to you. If the girl is a hustler, after you cum, she will try to get you out of the room quickly. If you spent some time talking with her in advance and she enjoys your company, she may spend the rest of the time giving you a massage..Thanks everyone who has given me lots of tips. I think I'll be ready for sharks next week! Is any one planning on going on the 28th of August? Would be awesome to meet some experienced mongers.
Oase works also took much longer time than planned. Quite slow business until Friday 30 August, still holidays time.Sharks is smarter, they chose the slowest time of the year to do their renovations.
Thanks everyone who has given me lots of tips. I think I'll be ready for sharks next week! Is any one planning on going on the 28th of August? Would be awesome to meet some experienced mongers.Asian Bruddah,
If you got to Sharks on August 28th, Wednesday, cover is 50 Euros all day. You should have a good choice of women. Plan on going in the afternoon and leaving late.
Watch the Youtube video showing, "How to get to Sharks," from Frankfurt. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9rGXfzld88. The Japanese guy that made the video took the train and taxi. The Cream colored Taxi's will be on the right side of the Darmstadt train station and cost about 10 Euros to Sharks. When you leave from Sharks, usually there will be a Sharks Black Mercedes taxi. He will charge you fixed rate 10 Euros to go to the train station. If you want to go back to Frankfurt, the regular taxi's will be waiting closer to the street. Your fare should cost fare about 50 Euros.
Have fun and right your report!
Aloha.
Thanks everyone who has given me lots of tips. I think I'll be ready for sharks next week! Is any one planning on going on the 28th of August? Would be awesome to meet some experienced mongers.Bruddah,
If you get lost at the airport or in town, most Young Germans speak English, just ask for directions. Don't ask them where is FKK or the Redlight area. Most taxi drivers are immigrants and speak very limited English but will know and will take you there.
At the Frankfurt Airport, Frankfurt Main train station or Darmstadt, if you need help taking the train look for the DB (Deutsch Bahn) Office or booth. They speak English and they will help you take the correct train.
Have Fun.
GermanBoy 2
08-25-19, 09:23
Arrived around 7 pm and noticed that bar is still under construction. Anyway there is no construction-special-offer, entrance lady said that it will be finished end of the week. Which did not help me for the day of course. So all drinks have been provided outside, cause it has been a wonderful warm summer night, I did not care about that. Due to limited space inside all garden places have been very busy, even the girls who are a bit shy to see sunlight sometimes had to come out.
So this evening I have been with two Romanians, both 19 years old. And a difference like night and day. They called herself Elsa and Claudia.
Elsa is a beauty on first view. Slim, but not too skinny, and a beautiful face and smile like you wished to have from your girlfriend when you have been young. She does not smoke, her boobs are small but natural, no silicon. Short: that's heaven. But service was cold as ice. Elsa, the ice queen she was doing everything mechanical, kissing was more a touching of lips then a real kiss. Anyway stayed 1 h /100 - this was the deal before. A bit overpriced only for the cute smile.
Claudia is not that beauty on first view. Maybe a little bit plump, which is in this age still OK, but in some years she will have maybe some problems. Boobs are also without silicon and maybe same size, but because of more body volumina they appear different. We went out from smoky room and stayed some minutes on a chair in the garden, starting nice kissing over there. In the room she gave a fantastic service including deep french kisses. Unfortunately she is smoker anyway it was a wonderful time. And her smile is as sweet as the other one, you only need a little longer to realize it. Before we agreed to 30 minutes 50 euros, I tipped her 20 because she did not watch the time very seriously, much loner stay then expected, and the garden-time was minimum 10-15 minutes as well.
Went home with a smile.
GunningPeter
08-25-19, 23:08
Sunday evening very fine.
Left without having a really cute red head, petite and lithe nice legs, I think Romanian or Moldovan.
But next time (she is back in three weeks). Her friend Ariana, a tall brunette, darker skin, used to model (she says) was sexy to be sure, and she did a great job on top, but the room was far too hot (no window). Didn't cum but she is a fine looker.
Met also Eliana, who comes from a town near the Volga River, so Russian, but not from Volgograd. She is a sexy looking older (maybe 32), a lovely blond. She reminded me of a very sexy Romanian from about one year ago named Elizabeth.
The star of the evening? Luisa, a rather stunning German blond, gorgeous legs, blue eyes, drop dead look while BBBJ, hot in both mish and on top. Also not a clock watcher. Nice banter too.
Pricing has changed people: expect to pay 100 for half hour for BBBJ and DFK. Luisa is awesome in terms of that service.
Could have stayed longer but work beckons tomorrow.
Heading back next weekend however, by which time the renovations should be done.
..........Pricing has changed people: expect to pay 100 for half hour for BBBJ and DFK. Luisa is awesome in terms of that service...........That pricing is for the uninitiated who I hope will continue to pay that amount so that the girls will be wealthy, healthy and content when I next meet them.
That pricing is for the uninitiated who I hope will continue to pay that amount so that the girls will be wealthy, healthy and content when I next meet them.Maybe rate for beauties, when GND have to try to get business. Nevertheless cute Angel, on my last visit, only told she didn't want for only 30 mn, but club rate for our time including jacuzzi foreplay in VIP room. Beauties are less expensive for me than GND I don't want to pay for. I don t pay for girls who would not attract me in real life. I just want beauties.
Pricing has changed people: expect to pay 100 for half hour for BBBJ and DFK. Luisa is awesome in terms of that service.I don't confess to being an expert as I live in the UK but I have been to Sharks 6/7 times this year and can honestly say that I find it easier finding girls who accept the 50/100 rate (including BBBJ, DFK) than finding the greedy ones who want 100 for 30 minutes.
If it was standard to pay 100/30 I wouldn't attend Sharks or any other venue in Germany.
Even with an erotic massage some girls are happy to include it as standard.
GunningPeter
08-26-19, 18:54
That pricing is for the uninitiated who I hope will continue to pay that amount so that the girls will be wealthy, healthy and content when I next meet them.I've just noticed that since the law change, girls are asking for more than what was typical back before 2017.
Especially if the ladies are particularly attractive.
So expect yourself to make those wealthy healthy and content contributions.
I've just noticed that since the law change, girls are asking for more than what was typical back before 2017.
Especially if the ladies are particularly attractive.
So expect yourself to make those wealthy healthy and content contributions.Prolly....NOT.
Prolly....NOT.Not everyone is a prolly, ofc here many, but some guys prefer classy girls and clubs. But this to understand seems useless to some.
I'm with Gino on this one. In a large club like Sharks, you can always find a number of girls who will provide BBBJ and some kissing for 50. Sure, some girls will not but many others will. One just needs patience and persistence.Correct you.
Need to be patience for 50 and ready to leave if girl does not provide and if the girl is must do list give her 100 but ask for 30 m massage or Jacuzzi extra.
Hi everyone,
First post here on ISG. I'll be traveling to Frankfurt in a couple months and would like to find out which days would be best to go to Sharks. Would Fridays and Saturdays have the hottest girls or not necessarily? Also, does Sharks really close daily at 4 or 5 pm? Those are the hours listed on their website and that's really surprising to me that they don't operate into the night. Thanks for any information and of course I'll be reporting back when I return from Frankfurt. Thanks!
M.It is AM night is open for fun.
HungryStud101
08-27-19, 14:31
Sunday evening very fine.
Pricing has changed people: expect to pay 100 for half hour for BBBJ and DFK. Luisa is awesome in terms of that service.
e.I wrote a report about a year ago about this. You used to be able to entice them with an hour booking.
I remember Simon2001 and I were leaning against the bar and some of the younger hotter girls were standing around lecturing us about it. It had to do with self-worth and self-respect they explained (the money was immaterial) and if I didn't like it they said that I could go with one of the older girls. It was hard for me to accept this. There were still plenty of girls that would do 100430 with a CIM if I was able and 100 E / hour and there were still some 50430's available. But there were some girls that were doing a lot of business and they were adamant about 150 E /30 with CIM. Are the gaining momentum?
Not everyone is a prolly, ofc here many, but some guys prefer classy girls and clubs. But this to understand seems useless to some.I don't know what is a prolly, but I had one of my classiest girl at Sharks. Only 1 room to dream for 2 hours and 2 rounds with her and I followed her at Globe where she did welcome her like a charming prince, I remember how you treated me as she said, she was one of the Globe busiest superstar. Also Ilka for classy girl I got at Sharks, I remember our under the moon and stars time in the garden, hand in hand, before our first room. Unfortunately she also left, on July 2016. Sad fall for Sharks casting after Summer 2016, even Florentina, Madi2, and Tamara for 2 weeks on June 2018. Tamara was also top class girl, with different behavior, I remember our breakfast eyes in eyes.
ExpatLover
08-27-19, 19:45
I wrote a report about a year ago about this. You used to be able to entice them with an hour booking.
I remember Simon2001 and I were leaning against the bar and some of the younger hotter girls were standing around lecturing us about it. It had to do with self-worth and self-respect they explained (the money was immaterial) and if I didn't like it they said that I could go with one of the older girls. It was hard for me to accept this. There were still plenty of girls that would do 100430 with a CIM if I was able and 100 E / hour and there were still some 50430's available. But there were some girls that were doing a lot of business and they were adamant about 150 E /30 with CIM. Are the gaining momentum?Take and make it easy, to summarize less new fresh and may be naive girls in the clubs, Romanian girls are controlling most of the big clubs due to powerless management, even for an experienced guy like me it is difficult to get a BBBJ in a 30 minutes 50 euros session when I book her for the first time. The guys who are telling they get everything for 50 may be possible but I think they are really the type of guy the girls fall in love.
ExpatLover
08-27-19, 19:55
I'm with Gino on this one. In a large club like Sharks, you can always find a number of girls who will provide BBBJ and some kissing for 50. Sure, some girls will not but many others will. One just needs patience and persistence.Top stunners is the big clubs will give you BBBJ in a 30 minutes 50 euros session? May be for you but impossible for me to get it.
RichCandyMan
08-28-19, 02:17
I would not be willing for holdout, its stupid, if the girl is charging 100 because she deserves it and who would care to go with old ugly girls. If she wants 100 for 1/2 hour, give it consider this as norm and move on. You have been paying 50 for last 8 years, I remember paying 1 euro for burger 5 years ago, but now that price is 2.50 euros, so to me I think its fair price, and girl needs to eat burger so what you say be fair stop whining enjoy your time let a girl make few bucks consider it as charity.
Beautiful girl with good service, deserves to be treated as princess.
I don't know what is a prolly, but I had one of my classiest girl at Sharks. Only 1 room to dream for 2 hours and 2 rounds with her and I followed her at Globe where she did welcome her like a charming prince, I remember how you treated me as she said, she was one of the Globe busiest superstar. Also Ilka for classy girl I got at Sharks, I remember our under the moon and stars time in the garden, hand in hand, before our first room. Unfortunately she also left, on July 2016. Sad fall for Sharks casting after Summer 2016, even Florentina, Madi2, and Tamara for 2 weeks on June 2018. Tamara was also top class girl, with different behavior, I remember our breakfast eyes in eyes.I meant Katalina did welcome me at Globe on July 2016, after our discovery at Sharks on mid April.
I would not be willing for holdout, its stupid, if the girl is charging 100 because she deserves it and who would care to go with old ugly girls. If she wants 100 for 1/2 hour, give it consider this as norm and move on. You have been paying 50 for last 8 years, I remember paying 1 euro for burger 5 years ago, but now that price is 2.50 euros, so to me I think its fair price, and girl needs to eat burger so what you say be fair stop whining enjoy your time let a girl make few bucks consider it as charity.
Beautiful girl with good service, deserves to be treated as princess.I agree with you I prefer to treat few beauties I find like princesses, unfortunately beauties are rare for me, and Romanians are the most attractive for me, more than Germans or Bulgarians, but for my few experiences in FKK land and I usually get beauties in clubs I visit, high level, real princesses don t speak about money, if they feel you treat them like they are princess, they prefer to get You for regular and I m a specialist to weekly meet few so rare princesses.
The way some of the posters here are supporting, some even promoting, increase of pricing for well established standard German FKK services, feels like they are not even customers, rather WGs with fake handles or the managers (pimps) of the WGs.
On the other hand, I'm going to try a different approach in my next visit. We all know that even the hottest and most popular WGs are also complaining many times (though not always) that business is down and they are not making as much as they used to months or years back. Next time any WG who I like complains that she didn't make enough that day, I will ask her to reduce price to get my business, typical market/spot pricing model, with maybe some volume discount for multiple hours if I want to continue. That will be win-win for both the seller and the buyer. Simple!
Next time any WG who I like complains that she didn't make enough that day, I will ask her to reduce price to get my business, typical market/spot pricing model, with maybe some volume discount for multiple hours if I want to continue. That will be win-win for both the seller and the buyer. Simple!You overestimate the business acumen of most of the girls LOL! The way most of them see it, they probably think they should raise prices when business is bad. And that's precisely the wrong time to raise prices!
I don't confess to being an expert as I live in the UK but I have been to Sharks 6/7 times this year and can honestly say that I find it easier finding girls who accept the 50/100 rate (including BBBJ, DFK) than finding the greedy ones who want 100 for 30 minutes.
If it was standard to pay 100/30 I wouldn't attend Sharks or any other venue in Germany.
I'm with Canary, Turgid and others on this. I just do not agree that there has been any change. I was at Sharks 2 weeks ago, had a great time with Yvonna and the much sought after Scarlett. Scarlett is a young, attractive brunette with a great attitude and good service. For sure she would have rejected a 50/30 offering. I think THAT is what has changed. With a lot of girls not willing to often wait for the room / then 30 minutes /50 euros / back down / shower / wait again. Scarlett was very happy to accept the proposal of 100/60. I’ve never met any girl who isn’t in 6 years of attending FKKs
But the suggestion that the pretty girls will no longer entertain 100/60 standard sessions is just wrong. I have absolutely zero refusal rate on that at Sharks / Mainhattan / Oase / Palace / and Artemis (120/60).
And I am also with Canary on his ending. The day a girl becomes 200/60 at a club where I'm already having to pay 65 or more for entry (70 Oase /75 Palace /80 Artemis) then I'm afraid my trips to Germany and FKK land will become few and far between.
Whilst I love the roaming naked ladies, the quality of the Line up NEVER matches that at Vive Madrid in any of the FKKs. And I can pay 17 entry there and 240 for an hour with any of the 100+ truly stunning models. And Madrid beats Frankfurt as a City hands down. Further south in Spain on the Costa Del Sol you can go to a private villa and sunbathe with up to 20 very attractive naked ladies, no entry and 250/ hour for girls who are not in an out of rooms all day long and tired or bored looking. And for those prices many will include what are considered extras in FKK clubs (not anal as that appears to always be extra) but CIM / CIF / COB / BDSM. Often standard at these prices.
If I go to FKK Sharks, pay 65 in, take a girl for one hour with a 50 extra (150) my one fuck has cost me 215 euros in not very attractive surroundings with clubs often on industrial estates or in the middle of countryside (Oase) meaning travel to them should be added as a cost. It means currently that a session like this in FKK land is coming out at near 300 for a tourist. That is on CURRENT prices. It is easy to see how a stunner in Spain / Italy / Dubai now starts to not look too expensive at 240 with 17 entry = 257. No food in that price but then at Mainhattan or Oase I'm not sure I want it anyway and I often now ensure I eat well before I go to an FKK. So I include nothing for that.
So I hope those who own the FKK clubs not only in Frankfurt but around Germany read these ISG boards and realise this. Your tourist contingent will continue to make the trips if the price v value equation makes sense. In days when at Samya it was 50/30 then 25/30 (remember that? That equation benefited the punter. It has changed since the July 17 law change (what a waste of time that was) but I'm afraid FKKs will become far less attractive to visit if prices really do go up beyond 100/60. Beyond that and the pricing model will mean that other locations provide much better value for money than Germany. It is perhaps quite apt that this happens to be my 1000th post - and many of them in FKK forums... I hope the pricing models don’t change so that I am still posting in FKK forums on my 2000th post.
I'm with Canary, Turgid and others on this. I just do not agree that there has been any change. I was at Sharks 2 weeks ago, had a great time with Yvonna and the much sought after Scarlett. Scarlett is a young, attractive brunette with a great attitude and good service. For sure she would have rejected a 50/30 offering. I think THAT is what has changed. With a lot of girls not willing to often wait for the room / then 30 minutes /50 euros / back down / shower / wait again. Scarlett was very happy to accept the proposal of 100/60. Ive never met any girl who isnt in 6 years of attending FKKs
But the suggestion that the pretty girls will no longer entertain 100/60 standard sessions is just wrong. I have absolutely zero refusal rate on that at Sharks / Mainhattan / Oase / Palace / and Artemis (120/60).
And I am also with Canary on his ending. The day a girl becomes 200/60 at a club where I'm already having to pay 65 or more for entry (70 Oase /75 Palace /80 Artemis) then I'm afraid my trips to Germany and FKK land will become few and far between.
Whilst I love the roaming naked ladies, the quality of the Line up NEVER matches that at Vive Madrid in any of the FKKs. And I can pay 17 entry there and 240 for an hour with any of the 100+ truly stunning models. And Madrid beats Frankfurt as a City hands down. Further south in Spain on the Costa Del Sol you can go to a private villa and sunbathe with up to 20 very attractive naked ladies, no entry and 250/ hour for girls who are not in an out of rooms all day long and tired or bored looking. And for those prices many will include what are considered extras in FKK clubs (not anal as that appears to always be extra) but CIM / CIF / COB / BDSM. Often standard at these prices..Yes, Samya was the last for 75/ h until August 2016, when GT and LR increased from 75 to 100 when Oceans opened because they were afraid girls would move to Oceans. At Gold, I could have paid only 40 for more than 40 mn with 2 pretty and sweet GFE girls for me, but facts are one of the prettiest at Sharks, even no wow face, but Melissa ask 100 for 30 mn or 150 for 1 h, and yes, some girls like cute Angel, another of prettiest, don t want for 30 mn. Not a problem for me because I m not a rabbit, I prefer to take my time when I enjoy and with our VIP room jacuzzi foreplay, we had 1 h30 for club rate. I prefer quality than quantity, only 1 beauty is enough for me. All girls don t worth same rate for me, beauty worth more for me, little girls or GND don t worth I pay for. I m not into South Americans except Argentinians and Venezuelans, but did You visit Alicante clubs? Of course town and foods are paradise, for sure Germany can t compete with Spain for foods, but I'm more into Romanian fresh beauties than too fake moaning South Americans.
But the suggestion that the pretty girls will no longer entertain 100/60 standard sessions is just wrong. I have absolutely zero refusal rate on that at Sharks / Mainhattan / Oase / Palace / and Artemis (120/60). And I am also with Canary on his ending. The day a girl becomes 200/60 at a club where I'm already having to pay 65 or more for entry (70 Oase /75 Palace /80 Artemis) then I'm afraid my trips to Germany and FKK land will become few and far between.
Whilst I love the roaming naked ladies, the quality of the Line up NEVER matches that at Vive Madrid in any of the FKKs. And I can pay 17 entry there and 240 for an hour with any of the 100+ truly stunning models. And Madrid beats Frankfurt as a City hands down. Further south in Spain on the Costa Del Sol you can go to a private villa and sunbathe with up to 20 very attractive naked ladies, no entry and 250/ hour for girls who are not in an out of rooms all day long and tired or bored looking. And for those prices many will include what are considered extras in FKK clubs (not anal as that appears to always be extra) but CIM / CIF / COB / BDSM. Often standard at these prices.I agree with much of what you wrote. Now, because I am an "anal connoisseur", I often pay 200 euros or more for a session. But, the day another 100 euros becomes attached to that as a part of base pricing, then yes I am out. I cannot agree with all of what you wrote about Spain however, which is my second favorite European destination.
Madrid is surely superior to Frankfurt as a tourist city, but for me a place like Vive Madrid cannot top the best FKK sauna clubs. Sure, you have a lot of tutes there to choose from, but for the price, I found the quality of the service and what you can expect to get to be far too uneven for the high 250 euros you quote. Too many of the girls did not want to do BBBJs, and I got no anal the last time I was at Vive, although I have gotten anal there before. Club Estark at Hotel Diana Plus was a much, much better value (and got lots of anal sex the last time). Not nearly as many girls to choose from, but I only need two or three on any one visit to be satisfied. Club Estark is my consistent favored spot in Madrid for hot girls doing dirty things.
So yes, I like Spain, but for me Germany reigns supreme in Europe when it comes to mongering. You can go to an FKK and change and shower and relax. Take your time. Use the facilities. Have something to eat and drink. And I normally never have too many problems finding a handful of girls who will deliver consistent service delivering exactly what I want (BBBJ / CIM, massage, ass fuck) over an hour-long session for around 200 to 300 euros depending. I cannot say the same thing for a place like Vive Madrid in Spain, or other like establishments in that country. Too inconsistent, not as comfortable an experience where I might want to hang out all day. When it comes to the sex alone, I choose The Fatherland.
Pricing has changed people: expect to pay 100 for half hour for BBBJ and DFK.
This is as clear example of "Fake News" as I've seen in many moons. The pricing has NOT changed. But some of the posting here has.
Enough said.
I agree with much of what you wrote. Now, because I am an "anal connoisseur", I often pay 200 euros or more for a session.
Welcome to my favorite sport? Hobby? Travel Destination? But I am a mere grasshopper to your venerable experience! Still, I agree. When I discuss anal with a lady, I expect to pay 200 or 250. It's not that I want to pay that much, but I find the girls who are prepared to give anal have usually "prepared" for the evening and usually treat the extra price as part of an hour or more of enjoyable sex. They seem to know you've paid extra and like the event to be sexy.
My favorite by the way is Rebecca in Coliseum if you get over there Mr. Cane! I'm not in Sharks for my first visit til November but I will share any experiences here on the board.
ExpatLover
08-28-19, 17:36
Welcome to my favorite sport? Hobby? Travel Destination? But I am a mere grasshopper to your venerable experience! Still, I agree. When I discuss anal with a lady, I expect to pay 200 or 250. It's not that I want to pay that much, but I find the girls who are prepared to give anal have usually "prepared" for the evening and usually treat the extra price as part of an hour or more of enjoyable sex. They seem to know you've paid extra and like the event to be sexy.
My favorite by the way is Rebecca in Coliseum if you get over there Mr. Cane! I'm not in Sharks for my first visit til November but I will share any experiences here on the board.Had many times anal, and I don't believe the girls prepare for it, how many times I had a lot of shit on the condom even the last time I had anal at Oase in the room under the relax area, no window, poor ventilation and the girl who name starts with A had even pooped a lot so a lot of. On the sofa left to the door, on the floor and the smell was just terrible after that I decided to never have anal in any FKK. Better to do it with escort at least for me.
Der Auslander
08-28-19, 18:19
The pricing has NOT changed. But some of the posting here has.Well said as per usual Ortos. I think controversial statements / reports regarding rip-off pricing in FKK Sharks or FKK Oase or indeed any controversial reporting can only be taken seriously if reported on by an ISG member in good standing. In other words a member who has a reporting history stretching back years (without any suspicious gaps / breaks) and not new to the board in the last 12 to 18 months. That's the way I look at any reports on ISG Germany FKK Clubs and particularly controversial reports. Obviously if The Cane, Sirioja, PayForIt or indeed your good self were to make such a statement about rip off pricing in Sharks, I would pay great attention but anyone else who falls outside the ISG Member in good standing category, I don't think I would pay much (any) attention at all. Sorry, I don't mean to offend any one. Just too much shall we say "leg-pulling" going on for me to take a much different attitude. I really believe in encouraging genuine new members on this Board as can be seen by my recent inclusion of BrownFish1234 in the Reports of Distinction Thread. A great report from a genuine new member who wants to contribute to this forum.
I think its not only important to encourage genuine new members but also to respect senior members who have been posting/reporting on this board for years (without strange breaks etc) and who have helped build this board with solid behaviour, solid posts and reports. Handles with a few months or even a year or two on this board are in no way equivalent to these senior members such as the names given as examples above.
Can I also add that I have not experienced any unusual pricing in any recent trip to this club. Certainly nothing like that indicated in a recent post.
I agree with much of what you wrote. Now, because I am an "anal connoisseur", I often pay 200 euros or more for a session. But, the day another 100 euros becomes attached to that as a part of base pricing, then yes I am out."Anal connoisseurs" have nothing to worry about when visiting the Germany FKK scene. The girls will be happy to go with you as you will be regarded as a good payer. Thus; you will also experience less fuss than the "cheap Charlie" max 50 E guy. Even in upselling places like Palace.
Of course you know this, but I nevertheless mention it for the firsttimers to the Germany FKK Club scene: "Anal" is not a standard service that every girl will provide. But it has a fixed extra price of 100 E (50 E in the NRW) per session. Just ask any girl for this service. If she will not partake herself, then she will immediately find two of her friends for you.
Anyways, my personal feeling is that "anal" as a service is much more prevalent now than it was 10- 15 years ago. Again, "anal connoisseurs" have nothing to worry about.
Can I also add that I have not experienced any unusual pricing in any recent trip to this club. Certainly nothing like that indicated in a recent post.6 visits and 15+ sessions at Oase and 1 visit and 2 sessions at Sharks in the last four weeks. And zero upselling!
Too many fake handles around here. ISG is infested by pimps, girls, and the mentally ill. Genuine firsttimers be aware.
Der Auslander
08-28-19, 19:41
It is perhaps quite apt that this happens to be my 1000th post - and many of them in FKK forums... I hope the pricing models dont change so that I am still posting in FKK forums on my 2000th post.Well done PayForIt! Many thanks for all the great posts and specially for all the great club reports!
6 visits and 15+ sessions at Oase and 1 visit and 2 sessions at Sharks in the last four weeks. And zero upselling!I could only get €100 sessions at Sharks last April.
Der Auslander
08-28-19, 19:56
Latest information of the management: The completion of the project will take longer than until 22.08.Any more news with regard to these renovations? Have they completed yet? I will be in Frankfurt next week and might drop into Sharks if the place has returned to some normality.
Had many times anal, and I don't believe the girls prepare for it, how many times I had a lot of shit on the condom even the last time I had anal at Oase in the room under the relax area, no window, poor ventilation and the girl who name starts with A had even pooped a lot so a lot of. On the sofa left to the door, on the floor and the smell was just terrible after that I decided to never have anal in any FKK. Better to do it with escort at least for me.All of my visits to FKKs, and I have had only one unpleasant anal experience, and it was not nearly as bad as you describe. Was a Colombian girl who used to work at Oase. That leaves me believing that given how many FKK girls I have butt fucked over the years, I've got to think that the overwhelming majority of the girls who provide anal service have to be preparing themselves. I mean I just can't believe my good fortunes have all been due to pure luck. If I, a prolific cornholer of tutes, had been experiencing anything like what you write, then I would not like anal at all, and never would have become "The Cane" LOL!
The way some of the posters here are supporting, some even promoting, increase of pricing for well established standard German FKK services, feels like they are not even customers, rather WGs with fake handles or the managers (pimps) of the WGs.
On the other hand, I'm going to try a different approach in my next visit. We all know that even the hottest and most popular WGs are also complaining many times (though not always) that business is down and they are not making as much as they used to months or years back. Next time any WG who I like complains that she didn't make enough that day, I will ask her to reduce price to get my business, typical market/spot pricing model, with maybe some volume discount for multiple hours if I want to continue. That will be win-win for both the seller and the buyer. Simple!For cheap sex, you know Dietzenbach close to Sharks. When Switzerland is on average not anymore higher level for looks even much more expensive, when my Russian escorts in Paris are not always prettier and higher level, if I find a FKK beauty who wants to behave like a GF in bed for me, then I will be very happy to spend 100 on her to enjoy her for 1 hour, what is my time standard in Germany and a good rate for a tramp like me who sleep in his car he loves so much, under bridge at Wellcum. I hate grocery for sex, kill my desire, high level girls don't speak about money. But most difficult is to find beauties with charm, then I will do the job to deserve from her.
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