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Citizen Kane
03-23-21, 18:13
Well, Jessica is available even if Sharks isn't...
https://www.ladies.de/sex-anzeigen/huren-hostessen/darmstadt-jessica-10103803
Jason,
I share your feelings and frustrations but we should have a bit more patience. From what I can read, it will reopen and they have used this time to renovate the club.I was just wondering if you or anyone has further information on what exactly the renovation work has involved?
Several months ago I posted on here that a friend told me he understood that there has been / going to be new carpets downstairs in the bar area and creating more rooms by altering the cave rooms upstairs. Whether this meant demolishing them I don't know.
Also he said they doing work to the rooms in the old cinema which suddenly made me think that despite numerous visits to Sharks I had never used those rooms as the ladies I've taken always thought they were "below standard" for them to work in.
Unfortunately I've lost touch with my friend to confirm the info so maybe other posters have better sources than myself?
Jason,
I share your feelings and frustrations but we should have a bit more patience. From what I can read, it will reopen and they have used this time to renovate the club. It has been a long and stressful year for everyone, but we are still standing and the vaccinations will bring us back to normality soon! If European countries manage to vaccinate most of the over 50 by mid July, I believe they will reopen everything. In the meantime, keep healthy, save money and prepare for the big return in our favorite bathrobes!When Hessen didn't open on September, when NRW did, do you really think they will reopen before elections after Summer? When now lengthening strict lockdown until 18 April, when Germany is now under UK mutant. I m not sure it would be so good to be elected. I afraid not much German brothels on this year. More probably in Switzerland or Austria.
ExpatLover
03-23-21, 19:55
Well, Jessica is available even if Sharks isn't...
https://www.ladies.de/sex-anzeigen/huren-hostessen/darmstadt-jessica-10103803Of course do you really believe those girls can do something else than open their legs and mouth? Take it easy.
I was just wondering if you or anyone has further information on what exactly the renovation work has involved?
Several months ago I posted on here that a friend told me he understood that there has been / going to be new carpets downstairs in the bar area and creating more rooms by altering the cave rooms upstairs. Whether this meant demolishing them I don't know.
Also he said they doing work to the rooms in the old cinema which suddenly made me think that despite numerous visits to Sharks I had never used those rooms as the ladies I've taken always thought they were "below standard" for them to work in.
Unfortunately I've lost touch with my friend to confirm the info so maybe other posters have better sources than myself?No I don't have further news, but someone who's been in Darmstadt lately for work told me he saw some building material outside Sharks. I know Sharks managers were thinking of acquiring the car dealer next door, which is no longer there BTW, to make it into a sort of Sharks hotel for guests, but I don't know if that is what the works are for.
When Hessen didn't open on September, when NRW did, do you really think they will reopen before elections after Summer? When now lengthening strict lockdown until 18 April, when Germany is now under UK mutant. I m not sure it would be so good to be elected. I afraid not much German brothels on this year. More probably in Switzerland or Austria.I don't think the opening is necessarily linked to elections as the main focus is the economy. If you don't open up by end of summer or something like that, things can get very ugly in terms of jobs losses and economic crisis.
Of course do you really believe those girls can do something else than open their legs and mouth? Take it easy.Never generalize nor degrade the dignity of anyone. They are still human beings with their own stories and dramas.
Of course do you really believe those girls can do something else than open their legs and mouth? Take it easy.Why are you on this forum again? If the girls disgust you so much maybe this is the wrong place for you. Just a thought.
Why are you on this forum again? If the girls disgust you so much maybe this is the wrong place for you. Just a thought.Well to practice his English! Remember? LOLOLOL!
Of course do you really believe those girls can do something else than open their legs and mouth? Take it easy.It's very sad when you read comments like this, I really pity him.
I don't think the opening is necessarily linked to elections as the main focus is the economy. If you don't open up by end of summer or something like that, things can get very ugly in terms of jobs losses and economic crisis.Germany just decided to extend strict lockdown until at least 18 April and maybe later, because of UK mutant which spread everywhere around Germany. Beloved Angela fell on recent elections in Saarland and Rhein Palatine, because of covid and lack of vaccine, even thinking about sputnik V. Bavarian who seems to be one of the favorite for after Angela, wanted to close border with Tirol under UK mutant. When so many deaths and strict lockdown since Christmas, do you really think one will take risk to open brothels, thinking it could be good to be elected? Do you think Germans will think this is safe to open brothels attracting foreigners from all over the world? When Germany was big brothel of Western Europe. Which employment? When most of clubs staff are foreigners and most WGs are Romanian or Bulgarian, brothels not even paying real tax and same for girls of course. I may mistake, but when UK mutant is killing so many, lack of vaccine in EU, and to get safe behavior to be elected when Germans like safety, I really doubt for reopening before elections and even just after, I think more when heat will return on 2022, heat being best vaccine versus this killer virus, but I don't know for mutants when I see in Brazil.
Why are you on this forum again? If the girls disgust you so much maybe this is the wrong place for you. Just a thought.Daily telling not worth visiting, but daily here to speak about brothels.
ExpatLover
03-24-21, 21:14
It's very sad when you read comments like this, I really pity him.I agree with you.
Never generalize nor degrade the dignity of anyone. They are still human beings with their own stories and dramas.
Why are you on this forum again? If the girls disgust you so much maybe this is the wrong place for you. Just a thought.
Well to practice his English! Remember? LOLOLOL!
It's very sad when you read comments like this, I really pity him.Glad to see so many who can see the girls outside of the prostitute monolith and all of the stereotypes attached to it. It's a job that takes as much skill as many other customer service jobs. The fact that so many come from disadvantaged societies might make one withhold a bit of criticism, but apparently he does not see looking down on people with less means as a personal character flaw. I see that trait in my peers, but seeing someone who has lived so many more years retain this attitude is disappointing. Most people who live into their golden years attain a much kinder view on humanity.
That being said, be careful as some of these ho's will take you for everything you're worth!
PaulInZurich
03-25-21, 18:10
I don't think the opening is necessarily linked to elections as the main focus is the economy. If you don't open up by end of summer or something like that, things can get very ugly in terms of jobs losses and economic crisis.I think that once the 50+ population is vaccinated and if the numbers go in the right direction things will open up. What better bump for a government to open a few weeks before the election.
This scenario is playing out in Israel. Netanyahu can say "forget about all the corruption stuff, look at the covid situation in Israel compared to other countries".
Denmark also said they will open 'everything' once 50+ have been vaccinated. Obviously with vaccine passports etc but the need to open is there.
I'm afraid Germany will be last because there's a streak of hysteria in their population at times. Look at what happened after Fukushima for example. Merkel is also not much of a leader and is slow at making decisions. Their current debacle with lockdown over Easter is because they can't make up their mind.
I think that once the 50+ population is vaccinated and if the numbers go in the right direction things will open up. What better bump for a government to open a few weeks before the election.
This scenario is playing out in Israel. Netanyahu can say "forget about all the corruption stuff, look at the covid situation in Israel compared to other countries".
Denmark also said they will open 'everything' once 50+ have been vaccinated. Obviously with vaccine passports etc but the need to open is there.
I'm afraid Germany will be last because there's a streak of hysteria in their population at times. Look at what happened after Fukushima for example. Merkel is also not much of a leader and is slow at making decisions. Their current debacle with lockdown over Easter is because they can't make up their mind.German politics will shout: vote for me, I reopened very safe brothels, for husbands to bring back killer gift at home. For sure, Germans should be appreciate and trust such good idea.
Turning the conversation back to Sharks, Melissa. Ro has been escorting in Darmstadt for a while now and I've just seen the video she posted on her ladies profile:
https://www.ladies.de/sex-anzeigen/huren-hostessen/darmstadt-melissa-red-10106749
She makes the money gesture when her hand reaches her pussy. I miss her!
PaulInZurich
03-26-21, 00:43
Denmark also said they will open 'everything' once 50+ have been vaccinated. Obviously with vaccine passports etc but the need to open is there.
I'm afraid Germany will be last because there's a streak of hysteria in their population at times. Look at what happened after Fukushima for example. Merkel is also not much of a leader and is slow at making decisions. Their current debacle with lockdown over Easter is because they can't make up their mind.Very possible that Germany will open later than others. To clarify, I don't say that FKKs will be open before the elections, FKKs will be in the very last category of businesses to open.
Turning the conversation back to Sharks, Melissa. Ro has been escorting in Darmstadt for a while now and I've just seen the video she posted on her ladies profile:
https://www.ladies.de/sex-anzeigen/huren-hostessen/darmstadt-melissa-red-10106749
She makes the money gesture when her hand reaches her pussy. I miss her!If she is red hair Melissa sitting close to SM room, if she made this gesture, I would have never gone with her, she would have killed my desire, too prostitute for me. Fortunately for me, she was charming on our introduction and even higher level than average to chat, but no wow in bed worthing 150/60, so no repeat for me, even one of the prettiest at Sharks with model body and friendly. But too professional even she tries to please You, but if I could touch the woman with words but not for sex, what I look for and interest me to worth repeating. I also need prettier face. My subjective taste of course.
Turning the conversation back to Sharks, Melissa. Ro has been escorting in Darmstadt for a while now and I've just seen the video she posted on her ladies profile:
https://www.ladies.de/sex-anzeigen/huren-hostessen/darmstadt-melissa-red-10106749
She makes the money gesture when her hand reaches her pussy. I miss her!The girl who all the guys ran after making her fancy herself. I wonder how her service is as an escort.
No I don't have further news, but someone who's been in Darmstadt lately for work told me he saw some building material outside Sharks. I know Sharks managers were thinking of acquiring the car dealer next door, which is no longer there BTW, to make it into a sort of Sharks hotel for guests, but I don't know if that is what the works are for.I never stayed at the Contel which is the closest to Sharks as the reviews were not good. If Sharks management is indeed constructing a hotel next door I could consider staying there if it is good and affordable.
The girl who all the guys ran after making her fancy herself. I wonder how her service is as an escort.Yes, indeed. She's always been very sweet and fun in the room. If I was a local, I would call her for an escort session.
The girl who all the guys ran after making her fancy herself. I wonder how her service is as an escort.I sometimes saw red hair Melissa not so busy, friendly behavior, more interesting than average to chat with. I liked our introduction. Even not natural enough for face and hair, even no wow in bed for me, but I would be happy to see many Melissa in clubs.
I never stayed at the Contel which is the closest to Sharks as the reviews were not good. If Sharks management is indeed constructing a hotel next door I could consider staying there if it is good and affordable.A small piece of advise, don't ever book at The Content Hotel, it's truly awful. I stayed once but never again.
I never stayed at the Contel which is the closest to Sharks as the reviews were not good. If Sharks management is indeed constructing a hotel next door I could consider staying there if it is good and affordable.If they do build a hotel next to Sharks and it's safe & clean I will certainly stay if it's not overpriced.
So that's two possible customers already!
If they do build a hotel next to Sharks and it's safe & clean I will certainly stay if it's not overpriced.
So that's two possible customers already!Breakfast will be served after you have taken a sit and a girl on your lap!
Turning the conversation back to Sharks, Melissa. Ro has been escorting in Darmstadt for a while now and I've just seen the video she posted on her ladies profile:The German forums reported that on the afternoon of the 25th, the authorities visited one of the Darmstadt hotels where many ex-Sharks WGs were working. No idea which hotel or if Melissa worked there. Or if it was just a "slap in the wrist" offense. But it was reported that some WGs scattered, relocating to other cities in the vicinity or started their holiday early.
Hessen brothels are closed since 1 year, but prostitution is also forbidden?
Hessen brothels are closed since 1 year, but prostitution is also forbidden?States have their own rules but I see a lot of girls on sites. But I will wait for the third wave to end and all the FKK's to open before I return.
The German forums reported that on the afternoon of the 25th, the authorities visited one of the Darmstadt hotels where many ex-Sharks WGs were working. No idea which hotel or if Melissa worked there. Or if it was just a "slap in the wrist" offense. But it was reported that some WGs scattered, relocating to other cities in the vicinity or started their holiday early.Melissa was not available for a few days and then she reappeared on the ladies website. Ruby. Ro (petite girl with glasses) was also incall / escorting in Darmstadt, but she has disappeared from the site, maybe she went back home or she got busted by the police. Not an easy time for the girls but, hopefully, we will soon be able to support them again!
Breakfast will be served after you have taken a sit and a girl on your lap!That wouldn't be a problem for me LOL!
If they had the finance to construct a small hotel on site I think it would be a commercial success. But whilst in a pandemic with no current cashflow it may be a pipe dream.
States have their own rules but I see a lot of girls on sites. But I will wait for the third wave to end and all the FKK's to open before I return.Even I look forward testing new engine to improve it and send GPS speed I take on photos, to Audi, but I don t plan to go for escorts in Germany when I saw many looks claiming they were escorting, but far below my past Russians in Paris, unfortunately no more wow now for me in Paris, only 3 times on this year. When I read about Polizei raid in Darmstadt hotel, I wondered if prostitution is allowed or forbidden in Hessen? I think allowed in NRW.
Melissa was not available for a few days and then she reappeared on the ladies website. Ruby. Ro (petite girl with glasses) was also incall / escorting in Darmstadt, but she has disappeared from the site, maybe she went back home or she got busted by the police. Not an easy time for the girls but, hopefully, we will soon be able to support them again!Did Melissa suddenly become unavailable starting on the 25th?
I know for a lot of people, their return to the land of FKK is still off in the far known future, but I just bring up these news events, because I believe the aggregate of their positive (whale customers) and negative experiences (police busts) while working underground will factor into their decision whether they wish to return to FKKs for 50 EUR 30 min rate, whenever clubs reopen that is.
Did Melissa suddenly become unavailable starting on the 25th?
I know for a lot of people, their return to the land of FKK is still off in the far known future, but I just bring up these news events, because I believe the aggregate of their positive (whale customers) and negative experiences (police busts) while working underground will factor into their decision whether they wish to return to FKKs for 50 EUR 30 min rate, whenever clubs reopen that is.A lot of variables, and too many to make confident predictions, but I suspect that many of the top quality providers will be able to keep the incall business model. As you mentioned, business from their whales might be able to keep them profitable without the club stress. I can see the good providers building more intimate relationships with their clients this past year, extracting much more money per client than before. The poor providers will likely have to go back to relying on the quantity of customers at the clubs. They will rely on "walk-in" business.
One possible issue for the incall providers, how many whales are local Germans? I've noticed that most whales are foreigners visiting for either business or are dedicated hobbyist from abroad. From what we know about German clubbers, they are mostly frugal. Would the frugal locals be willing to sacrifice the variety found in the clubs for one or two favorite girls. Would whales travel to Germany just for an in call visit? Good in-call providers can be be found anywhere in Europe and for roughly the same price if not cheaper than what's found in Germany. If hobbying for incall, why would I choose cold and rainy Germany over warm Southern Spain or Italy with better food and scenery.
But also, will there still be enough fly in business travelers when we return to "normal"? We know of the Asian hunters and their business model, but will the Asian business mongers continue to come? Most Americans clubbers are there on business also. Will they resume their previous work schedules?
My overly optimistic-best case scenario is that perhaps the scene returns to where it was 10 years ago due to higher proportion of German clients with German price to service expectation. Less clubs and less girls, but with less foreign mongers. If that is the case, could we revert back to those average price to service levels?
With my very small knowledge about this business, I m pretty sure most of WGs will return to their home club rather than keeping on escorting, which is just to survive in Germany. I remember funny stories about Elen working at Sharks rather than Dubai, or Evita who never returned to escort in UK since her arrival at Sharks on January 2015. Clubs may also be more safe places to work, according to some German girls, also telling they made better business, even 50/30, than when escorting, and furthermore for those who moved to Switzerland, for 140/30 at Globe = more than 130€.
A lot of variables, and too many to make confident predictions, but I suspect that many of the top quality providers will be able to keep the incall business model. As you mentioned, business from their whales might be able to keep them profitable without the club stress. I can see the good providers building more intimate relationships with their clients this past year, extracting much more money per client than before. The poor providers will likely have to go back to relying on the quantity of customers at the clubs. They will rely on "walk-in" business.
One possible issue for the incall providers, how many whales are local Germans? I've noticed that most whales are foreigners visiting for either business or are dedicated hobbyist from abroad. From what we know about German clubbers, they are mostly frugal. Would the frugal locals be willing to sacrifice the variety found in the clubs for one or two favorite girls. Would whales travel to Germany just for an in call visit? Good in-call providers can be be found anywhere in Europe and for roughly the same price if not cheaper than what's found in Germany. If hobbying for incall, why would I choose cold and rainy Germany over warm Southern Spain or Italy with better food and scenery.
But also, will there still be enough fly in business travelers when we return to "normal"? We know of the Asian hunters and their business model, but will the Asian business mongers continue to come? Most Americans clubbers are there on business also. Will they resume their previous work schedules?
My overly optimistic-best case scenario is that perhaps the scene returns to where it was 10 years ago due to higher proportion of German clients with German price to service expectation. Less clubs and less girls, but with less foreign mongers. If that is the case, could we revert back to those average price to service levels?I will love to see your last sentence come true! If FKKs go back to how they were 10 years ago, like it was in Atlantis and World back then. That would be like going to back to the golden ages of FKKs. Amen!
Did Melissa suddenly become unavailable starting on the 25th? I can't say for certain as I don't check that site daily but, yes, I would say around that time.
One possible issue for the incall providers, how many whales are local Germans? I've noticed that most whales are foreigners visiting for either business or are dedicated hobbyist from abroad. From what we know about German clubbers, they are mostly frugal. Would the frugal locals be willing to sacrifice the variety found in the clubs for one or two favorite girls.German clubbers, yes we can observe their behavior, because they visit clubs. My contention is there a category of local mongers who have never set foot in the clubs before, an untapped market that Melissa had never been exposed to prior to working independent. A local monger who has their professional, social, family network within a thirty minute radius of Darmstadt, probably would prefer something more discreet and is willing to pay higher prices for the ability to monger incognito.
Now an unmarried, mid-50's local German with no kids living 100 km away, has the luxury of spending all day at the club, with very low risk of seeing someone he knows. That said, I have met three guys at Sharks who live in Darmstadt. The two younger ones do not visit as often or stopped. The older one is married but has grown children late 20's, early 30's. He mentioned to me that is wife does not know or ask when he disappears for hours. Perhaps at that age, the wife does not care anymore, and is happy someone else is performing her wifely duties. Or he is too old to care.
Wait and see like anything else.
ExpatLover
03-29-21, 19:37
I will love to see your last sentence come true! If FKKs go back to how they were 10 years ago, like it was in Atlantis and World back then. That would be like going to back to the golden ages of FKKs. Amen!But what is this mindset. Why always waiting the things to come back. It is at least 6 months that I start to book girls that I know for long weekend or even holidays. I don t care about the reopening or not of the FKK, my sex life is at the top. My agenda is full of appointments with ex FKK girls.
But what is this mindset. Why always waiting the things to come back. It is at least 6 months that I start to book girls that I know for long weekend or even holidays. I don t care about the reopening or not of the FKK, my sex life is at the top. My agenda is full of appointments with ex FKK girls.I'm really not interested to spend time out of clubs with girls who are ready to be fucked by everybody for money. While break, like 1 year ago, I see how normal women are so much more interesting, with higher level and much more charm. When clubs are only for easy, fast and with no consequences when your brain is leading you, but I know how it will be complicated again, like on last June, when will return, about lower level of charm. Image really count for my desire.
But what is this mindset. Why always waiting the things to come back. It is at least 6 months that I start to book girls that I know for long weekend or even holidays. I don t care about the reopening or not of the FKK, my sex life is at the top. My agenda is full of appointments with ex FKK girls.What FKK lovers like me miss the most is the whole atmosphere of the clubs and the opportunity to watch and talk to naked girls in a relaxed atmosphere. Escorts have been available throughout this pandemic, but it is not the same experience.
From what I understand, the clubs will open on October 2022 scenario.
I have not seen a report that people are moving themselves to get vaccinated.
I saw infected 10,000 people +/- each day, Angela Merkle lost her steering wheel on Germany.
She has come to terms with the situation that she is ending her role and going, Whoever comes after her will take at least a year to heal the economy.
Sorry guys, I also love shark club.
Lets pray for better hope.
And how do you find them? You had there private numbers from before?
But what is this mindset. Why always waiting the things to come back. It is at least 6 months that I start to book girls that I know for long weekend or even holidays. I don t care about the reopening or not of the FKK, my sex life is at the top. My agenda is full of appointments with ex FKK girls.
BigBuddy69
03-30-21, 14:44
Of course. From before when he was going to clubs to return home with full balls because they are only overfucked prostitutes in those clubs.
And now since he lives in China, he has lots of appointments with women living in Central Europe. It really makes sense in those times where it is so easy to travel from a continent to another.
ExpatLover
03-30-21, 16:27
And how do you find them? You had there private numbers from before?Always the same story, when you invest in your relations you get pay back and this is also true with prostitute. When you respect them and don t treat them like a piece of meat, they start to trust you and even after they retire from the job you can become friend. I kept very good contact with very few girls and even some of them invite me to visit her parents. The things are very clear, I will not marry them, they will not marry me but why not having fun together. Sorry but you don t have the phone number from your best friends or whatsapp?
ExpatLover
03-30-21, 16:31
From what I understand, the clubs will open on October 2022 scenario.
I have not seen a report that people are moving themselves to get vaccinated.
I saw infected 10,000 people +/- each day, Angela Merkle lost her steering wheel on Germany.
She has come to terms with the situation that she is ending her role and going, Whoever comes after her will take at least a year to heal the economy.
Sorry guys, I also love shark club.
Lets pray for better hope.Sorry nobody is able to predict what will happen with this pandemy, may be the FKK could open in October, may be not. I am afraid that praying or not will not change the things. God doesn't exist, the religion is just a mean to control the people and to make them go in the direction you want.
From what I understand, the clubs will open on October 2022 scenario.
I have not seen a report that people are moving themselves to get vaccinated.
I saw infected 10,000 people +/- each day, Angela Merkle lost her steering wheel on Germany.
She has come to terms with the situation that she is ending her role and going, Whoever comes after her will take at least a year to heal the economy.
Sorry guys, I also love shark club.
Lets pray for better hope.Not an expert on German politics but for those familiar, am I right to say that this post reflects a specific political partiality? From what I understand, the German scene is very strategic, with parties forming coalitions and breaking out of them while going back and forth between serving as opposition and accepting the majority / plurality party.
Is Merkel and her coalition of parties really doing all that bad with the covid response compared to other nations? From a cases and deaths standpoint. Germany still remains one of the best performing European nations. I'd imagine their economy can withstand the pandemic's impact better than most of Europe.
Apparently the CSU / CDU union still holds a plurality of the votes. Is there another coalition that can challenge Merkel?
PaulInZurich
03-30-21, 18:35
What FKK lovers like me miss the most is the whole atmosphere of the clubs and the opportunity to watch and talk to naked girls in a relaxed atmosphere. Escorts have been available throughout this pandemic, but it is not the same experience.Yup, exactly that. The atmosphere of having a drink while deciding which girl to pick up for the day. Plus the steady supply of new girls. Even the best performers, after I was with them 2-3 times I want somebody new. I might return to them later, but I enjoy the change.
What FKK lovers like me miss the most is the whole atmosphere of the clubs and the opportunity to watch and talk to naked girls in a relaxed atmosphere. Escorts have been available throughout this pandemic, but it is not the same experience.Atmosphere? Usually hard job to succeed to find a desirable image. I remember being more exhausted than after my climbing, turning around for 15 hours, but no spark. I prefer when no guy make me lose my time, preferring to focus to try to find what I drive for.
Sorry nobody is able to predict what will happen with this pandemy, may be the FKK could open in October, may be not. I am afraid that praying or not will not change the things. God doesn't exist, the religion is just a mean to control the people and to make them go in the direction you want.I agree that predictions have gone out of the window. No sooner do we think it is over than another wave comes. The secret is all about the vaccines. The fact that the UK has seen its numbers crumble to almost nothing is no coincidence. Until the EU sort out the utter shambles about getting its people properly vaccinated the FKKs will remain closed. That said, Spain and Gibraltar are now doing really well. Very odd.
We all miss the FKK experience very much and fur sure it makes us value it all the more. I have little doubt that as prostitution is legal in Germany and generates good revenues from taxes, the FKKs will indeed reopen. And what a party that will be for all. Whenever that may be.
PaulInZurich
03-31-21, 00:51
Atmosphere? Usually hard job to succeed to find a desirable image. I remember being more exhausted than after my climbing, turning around for 15 hours, but no spark. I prefer when no guy make me lose my time, preferring to focus to try to find what I drive for.Why do you go every weekend when the FKKs are open if you don't like them?
Why do you go every weekend when the FKKs are open if you don't like them?Not for atmosphere when usually bad music for my ears and I m not a guy to sleep with nose in beer on the bar. No beer nor alcohol for me, fortunately for Switzerland where I would have my head cut. For sure not to meet guys even I had pleasure to meet a German at Sharks and I quite often meet a Swiss, in Germany or ZH. FKK are just easy, fast with no consequences, and when I succeed to find a desirable image, then I like to meet weekly, met some who were busy superstars for 5/6 years, in different clubs, met Megan in 3 different clubs, met my best FKK girl for 70/80 hours for only 7 months when she worked and when no more desirable image for me, I stopped even I knew she was my best pleasure. You don't like me anymore? As she said. I also used famous GT Bruggen to watch ski or Formula 1, or Globe to prepare on my way to my real sports, pastas are good for climbing or ski, Fritz saying: I prefer when you find a good girl for you. No problem, as said Miss Scarlet, tomorrow will be another day, no hurry when you can go more often than a local, even you live and work far, it would be more complicated about job at the moment, but I didn't even think to go to Zeus or Cleo, when no foods, then no sex. When I hate to waste my money for average, I drive to find wow and spark, and only 1 desirable image is even better for a bad faithful guy like me who is only interested by girls choosing me first, but they can go with others if they prefer. Fortunately for me, facts talk, because I would not be able to run again after discovery or to wait, which kill my desire. I don t know when will reopen, even pretty sure before Summer for Switzerland, ZH, when I think Germany could wait heat return on 2022, meaning around June, because not good point to be elected and cold will arrive after elections, then wish for a new desirable image when one would just be enough for me. Just easy playfield for me, even I sometimes left more exhausted or with more pain in back than when bumping for whole day or climbing Zoncolan, not finding any wow, when visiting 3 clubs in the day, or turning around for 15 hours when around 200 girls at Sharks. Too picky as say girls.
ExpatLover
03-31-21, 07:03
I agree that predictions have gone out of the window. No sooner do we think it is over than another wave comes. The secret is all about the vaccines. The fact that the UK has seen its numbers crumble to almost nothing is no coincidence. Until the EU sort out the utter shambles about getting its people properly vaccinated the FKKs will remain closed. That said, Spain and Gibraltar are now doing really well. Very odd.
We all miss the FKK experience very much and fur sure it makes us value it all the more. I have little doubt that as prostitution is legal in Germany and generates good revenues from taxes, the FKKs will indeed reopen. And what a party that will be for all. Whenever that may be."The secret is all about vaccine" this is at least what the world leaders try to make us think, so life can come back to what it was before for the full benefits of the same leaders. So people will again buy electrical cars which in fact are more polluting than the others, Iphone which Apple produces for 150 USD and sell 1000+ USD, Louis Vuitton plastic bag for 1500 USD and so on and all of this with credit because the banks also need to take profit from us.
Atmosphere? Usually hard job to succeed to find a desirable image. I remember being more exhausted than after my climbing, turning around for 15 hours, but no spark. I prefer when no guy make me lose my time, preferring to focus to try to find what I drive for.Siri,
If going to FKK clubs is so tiring for you, try to relax a bit more when you are there and maybe be less selective with girls. Some of them may not give you a brilliant first impression but they will surprise you in the room.
That wouldn't be a problem for me LOL!
If they had the finance to construct a small hotel on site I think it would be a commercial success. But whilst in a pandemic with no current cashflow it may be a pipe dream.If they have the finances they should go ahead and construct a hotel. Now is the best time as customers will not be affected by noise and activity. They will certainly recoup their expenses when FKKs reopen.
ExpatLover
03-31-21, 17:34
Siri,
If going to FKK clubs is so tiring for you, try to relax a bit more when you are there and maybe be less selective with girls. Some of them may not give you a brilliant first impression but they will surprise you in the room.I don't care about technic, fucking, nothing except beauty, I only pay for beauty just because the best sex is never the sex you pay for. Fortunately even in my 60 I don't need to pay to fuck average looking girls.
PaulInZurich
03-31-21, 19:10
I don't care about technic, fucking, nothing except beauty, I only pay for beauty just because the best sex is never the sex you pay for. Fortunately even in my 60 I don't need to pay to fuck average looking girls.Let's start with the statement that you are 60 and you claim you don't need to pay for "girls", does that mean let's say under 30 ? Not very believable.
Then there's uhm, "nothing except beauty" and "fuck average girls". Kinda contradictory, isn't it?
SobeLizard
03-31-21, 21:13
"The secret is all about vaccine" this is at least what the world leaders try to make us think, so life can come back to what it was before for the full benefits of the same leaders. So people will again buy electrical cars which in fact are more polluting than the others, Iphone which Apple produces for 150 USD and sell 1000+ USD, Louis Vuitton plastic bag for 1500 USD and so on and all of this with credit because the banks also need to take profit from us.You are 100% correct on all points.
1. world leaders try to make us think, so life can come back.
2. electrical cars which in fact are more polluting than the others.
3. I phone which Apple produces for 150 USD and sell 1000+ USD.
4. Louis Vuitton plastic bag for 1500 USD and so on and all of this with credit.
5. because the banks also need to take profit from us.
Siri,
If going to FKK clubs is so tiring for you, try to relax a bit more when you are there and maybe be less selective with girls. Some of them may not give you a brilliant first impression but they will surprise you in the room.Some girls are lovely, but if I'm not attracted, I hate girls touch me, when many want to touch my hair or face, and I don't even say about those coming to rub on you, even when you stand up, or trying to touch your dick. Sometimes, at Sharks with 200 girls, or at Globe, couldn't find any attractive, but fortunately for me, I find few sometimes. Found few real beauties who were on escort level.
If they have the finances they should go ahead and construct a hotel. Now is the best time as customers will not be affected by noise and activity. They will certainly recoup their expenses when FKKs reopen.If the clubs were currently open, I suppose Sharks customers could be inconvenienced by the activity, but why would Sharks customers be bothered by noise of construction, when there is always loud music playing 16 hours a day and moaning sounds from adjacent rooms?
The only FKK with an on-site hotel that I am aware of is Wellcum in Austria. Wellcum is more like a secluded resort (probably 15 minutes drive from nearest hotel), whereas Sharks is in an industrial area with many competing hotels nearby within a 3 km radius. The food at Wellcum is also significantly better. If I were to book a 7-day package, where I would not be leaving the confines of the club, Wellcum would be the better choice from a "resort" perspective. I don't think I could survive on seven days of Sharks food without ordering delivery.
The hotel at Wellcum is adjoining, so you do not have to constantly change in and out of your street clothes. You simply stay in your robe, walk past reception and up the stairs to your hotel room any time you want to sleep or take a Zoom call (someone correct me if I am wrong on that). Can you take a WG to your private hotel room for a session at Wellcum? That would seem outside of the range of club security. But if that is possible, I would get a BBBJ for every Zoom call.
Deviating from the discussion of on-site hotels, if work from home becomes the norm post-CV19, will we start seeing many fly-in mongers doing month long visits to FKK land 3-to-6 times a year? That would ruin the pricing for the locals!
Hi McAdonis,
I wish I could have PMd you for this but I don't see the option to do it. Nice seeing your review about Wellcum. Is this club actually open? Is it worth it to take a weekend trip there with friends? (we are coming from Zurich). Any other club open you might recommend? I really wish Sharks was open:
Thanks for your help bro and stay safe.
If the clubs were currently open, I suppose Sharks customers could be inconvenienced by the activity, but why would Sharks customers be bothered by noise of construction, when there is always loud music playing 16 hours a day and moaning sounds from adjacent rooms?
The only FKK with an on-site hotel that I am aware of is Wellcum in Austria. Wellcum is more like a secluded resort (probably 15 minutes drive from nearest hotel), whereas Sharks is in an industrial area with many competing hotels nearby within a 3 km radius. The food at Wellcum is also significantly better. If I were to book a 7-day package, where I would not be leaving the confines of the club, Wellcum would be the better choice from a "resort" perspective. I don't think I could survive on seven days of Sharks food without ordering delivery.
The hotel at Wellcum is adjoining, so you do not have to constantly change in and out of your street clothes. You simply stay in your robe, walk past reception and up the stairs to your hotel room any time you want to sleep or take a Zoom call (someone correct me if I am wrong on that). Can you take a WG to your private hotel room for a session at Wellcum? That would seem outside of the range of club security. But if that is possible, I would get a BBBJ for every Zoom call.
Hi McAdonis,
I wish I could have PMd you for this but I don't see the option to do it. Nice seeing your review about Wellcum. Is this club actually open? Is it worth it to take a weekend trip there with friends? (we are coming from Zurich). Any other club open you might recommend? I really wish Sharks was open:
Thanks for your help bro and stay safe.Wellcum was open on last Summer but closed now, but pretty sure should reopen under heat with wonderful Carinthian mountains around, like ZH should also, when really not sure for Germany. I was proposed by some girls for the night at Wellcum, but I preferred to go to sleep with my friend bicycle in my car. At the moment, Zeus. Sz and Cleo. Be are open in Switzerland.
ExpatLover
04-01-21, 11:31
Let's start with the statement that you are 60 and you claim you don't need to pay for "girls", does that mean let's say under 30 ? Not very believable.
Then there's uhm, "nothing except beauty" and "fuck average girls". Kinda contradictory, isn't it?I think it was more or less clear, I only pay for natural, beauties which means for me around 20 YO, with my age 60 this is more or less impossible in normal life so I have to pay for having sex with this kind of girls. Fortunately, I can still have sex for free with woman in the 33+ but of course I will pay some restaurants, hotels but not for sex.
If the clubs were currently open, I suppose Sharks customers could be inconvenienced by the activity, but why would Sharks customers be bothered by noise of construction, when there is always loud music playing 16 hours a day and moaning sounds from adjacent rooms?
The only FKK with an on-site hotel that I am aware of is Wellcum in Austria. Wellcum is more like a secluded resort (probably 15 minutes drive from nearest hotel), whereas Sharks is in an industrial area with many competing hotels nearby within a 3 km radius. The food at Wellcum is also significantly better. If I were to book a 7-day package, where I would not be leaving the confines of the club, Wellcum would be the better choice from a "resort" perspective. I don't think I could survive on seven days of Sharks food without ordering delivery.
The hotel at Wellcum is adjoining, so you do not have to constantly change in and out of your street clothes. You simply stay in your robe, walk past reception and up the stairs to your hotel room any time you want to sleep or take a Zoom call (someone correct me if I am wrong on that). Can you take a WG to your private hotel room for a session at Wellcum? That would seem outside of the range of club security. But if that is possible, I would get a BBBJ for every Zoom call.
Deviating from the discussion of on-site hotels, if work from home becomes the norm post-CV19, will we start seeing many fly-in mongers doing month long visits to FKK land 3-to-6 times a year? That would ruin the pricing for the locals!FKK World in Pohlheim-Garbenteich offers rooms for overnight stay, but I have never tried that myself. I have seen a couple of reports on World thread about mongers staying a few days in the club.
FKK World in Pohlheim-Garbenteich offers rooms for overnight stay, but I have never tried that myself. I have seen a couple of reports on World thread about mongers staying a few days in the club.It's completely different at Welcum. I've stayed at World and you basically get a room to sleep for 8 hours or less. It's just another sex room, albeit one of the nicer ones. You "check in" to your room towards the end of the night but have to be out when the club opens. I stayed there for the novelty of it but it's actually not a very good deal. 100 euro for a short time, during which you may not get very good sleep because the club has music playing until late and blasts the music when they open.
At Welcum, it's an actual hotel attached to the club but separated by a shared lobby and front desk. Like he said, you can literally go in and out of the club, back and forth to your room and even session with the girls in your own room. It's nice to be able to take a few hours away and come right back. Or even just be able to wake up, come downstairs for breakfast, and have girls ready to go.
If they have the finances they should go ahead and construct a hotel. Now is the best time as customers will not be affected by noise and activity. They will certainly recoup their expenses when FKKs reopen.I don't know for hotel, but Sharks, World, Mainhattan, Finca, should find finances for the washing machine.
It's completely different at Welcum. I've stayed at World and you basically get a room to sleep for 8 hours or less. It's just another sex room, albeit one of the nicer ones. You "check in" to your room towards the end of the night but have to be out when the club opens. I stayed there for the novelty of it but it's actually not a very good deal. 100 euro for a short time, during which you may not get very good sleep because the club has music playing until late and blasts the music when they open.
At Welcum, it's an actual hotel attached to the club but separated by a shared lobby and front desk. Like he said, you can literally go in and out of the club, back and forth to your room and even session with the girls in your own room. It's nice to be able to take a few hours away and come right back. Or even just be able to wake up, come downstairs for breakfast, and have girls ready to go.I know one thing. From having read these recent posts. When life returns to normality. And it will. I'm headed to Wellcum. The idea of a hotel slightly attached you can go in and out of the club from appeals.
Carpaccio18
04-02-21, 00:34
I will love to see your last sentence come true! If FKKs go back to how they were 10 years ago, like it was in Atlantis and World back then. That would be like going to back to the golden ages of FKKs. Amen!If you think about it, that may not neccesarily be an entirely unrealistic scenario. Theres bound to have been a lot of shakeup among the girls, many going back to their origins. So new ones hopefully entering the scene, break-up of the Ro gangs of girls whos been lazy and bad providers. You never know.
Carpaccio18
04-02-21, 00:46
At Welcum, it's an actual hotel attached to the club but separated by a shared lobby and front desk. Like he said, you can literally go in and out of the club, back and forth to your room and even session with the girls in your own room. It's nice to be able to take a few hours away and come right back. Or even just be able to wake up, come downstairs for breakfast, and have girls ready to go.Is wellcum an FKK similar to the main german ones, ie. Full nude girls?
I don't know for hotel, but Sharks, World, Mainhattan, Finca, should find finances for the washing machine.And GT a bathroom for the Ro. LOL.
I know one thing. From having read these recent posts. When life returns to normality. And it will. I'm headed to Wellcum. The idea of a hotel slightly attached you can go in and out of the club from appeals.You go to your room from same desk you enter the club. You should find some girls proposing you for the night for 1000. For club, same like in Germany, but for 70/30 and entry 85. Pretty sure should open for Summer like on last Summer, when I really doubt for Germany. In Austria, but everything is written in Italian. Bad, no more foods at night after midnight.
And GT a bathroom for the Ro. LOL.I don't know if same finances for GT German boss, but yes, as I often wrote, when now closed since more than 1 year, when didn't reopen like LR, and don't know if will reopen same after a polizei control but not about WGs, but wish girls will get private shower for reopening, and I think more about Germans than Romanians who are usually higher level for hygiene, rather than cat washing in toilets behind desk and tasting toilets on foreplay. As told one here and I liked his: eau de toilets, for GT perfume. A LR then GT cooker moved to 6 ens NL like few GT girls. When I don t think so much for German brothels on 2021 which is worst than 2020 for Germany, but maybe NL could reopen under heat, and beautiful YY is really missing, would be great if allowed to reopen and I m sure many NRW WGs would move for freedom to work there, like some WGs like Sharks for same. YY is more attractive to work than 6 ens for WGs from Germany, and I don t mean only for Germans.
Prelude141
04-02-21, 11:13
If you think about it, that may not neccesarily be an entirely unrealistic scenario. Theres bound to have been a lot of shakeup among the girls, many going back to their origins. So new ones hopefully entering the scene, break-up of the Ro gangs of girls whos been lazy and bad providers. You never know.The only but major difference is that girls nowadays are extremely lazy and assume that a minimum of 100 euros is required to cover the right to be with them in a room, to kick on actions, they want more and each bit of action cost you 50 euros. OK I barely exaggerate but old good times of FKK are gone when girls were happy to be fully yours for 75 euros / h all inclusive and more. Todays generation has grown up with too much attention, care and money so they can't be efficient prossies.
Citizen Kane
04-02-21, 11:42
I will love to see your last sentence come true! If FKKs go back to how they were 10 years ago, like it was in Atlantis and World back then. That would be like going to back to the golden ages of FKKs. Amen!I think Atlantis shut up shop in 2004 but I've always loved the irony of how we view it as this mythical lost club given it's name.
Nice seeing your review about Wellcum. Is this club actually open?Unfortunately website reports that is has been closed since November 3rd. You can try reading the Austria threads for their predictions or which way the government is leaning towards re-opening. Massimo Potente posts a but I think just in Vienna thread.
I know one thing. From having read these recent posts. When life returns to normality. And it will. I'm headed to Wellcum. The idea of a hotel slightly attached you can go in and out of the club from appeals.From overhead view of property, you can see that that the club is easily 2-3 km from civilization. You leave civilisation at Karntnerstr and Stossau. It would be a nice, uphill 42 minute hike from Arnoldstein station: https://goo.gl/maps/3hsj76PzwbTZwXA9A.
Not shown is that you are at the foot of mountains which can be backdrop for some photos. I imagine many Italian men, both married and "mammoni" (middle-aged bachelors living with mama) sell this off as a ski trip or a summer trip to the mountains. Wellcum, however, has as lot of moving advertisements and billboards, so maybe the Italian women do know what their men are up to when they cross the border: https://goo.gl/maps/bvvezEuaoECGUn727.
Stair access to hotel room from FKK lobby: https://goo.gl/maps/DG9ohuErwBVm2Hww5.
Hotel suite: https://goo.gl/maps/Fia5uXNBa59n5o6L8.
Buffet: https://thehotel.cc/hotel-und-club/.
You are paying a little bit more than you would in Darmstadt. WGs cost 70 EUR per 30 minutes. Entry is 85 EUR. Hotel starts at 62 EUR night. But during low season, it looks like they have sales promotions and packages: https://wellcum.at/clubhotel-only-85-euro-all-days-in-march/.
Given its remote location, I would say that most visitors are driving a few hours. Unless you greet them with English or German first, reception will just start speaking Italian to you (just to give you a general idea of the tourist to locals ratio). Eyeballing the clientele, many Italian mongers arrive in groups, so I suspect some of these Italian men are just casual mongers who monger 1-2 times a year. These Italian men may splurge more, because for them mongering is an "occasion" as opposed to something they do on a weekly basis. As such, their demands in the room might be lower. That is not to say that Wellcum has a lot of rip-off girls. To be fair, I have not had a high opinion of the average service level of Sharks WGs since 2016.
The only but major difference is that girls nowadays are extremely lazy and assume that a minimum of 100 euros is required to cover the right to be with them in a room, to kick on actions, they want more and each bit of action cost you 50 euros. OK I barely exaggerate but old good times of FKK are gone when girls were happy to be fully yours for 75 euros / h all inclusive and more. Todays generation has grown up with too much attention, care and money so they can't be efficient prossies.Can still find some girls who don t speak about money, some giving their rate on introduction, but no more money talk after, when I can t desire a grocery nor play grocer nor asking for the menu, just killing desire for me, when so enjoyable to discover surprise, to play to receive, same like I prefer when girls are not full naked, I love so much to put off their underwear, stockings, so funny to see their round eyes looking at me doing, they don t seem so used to, and really erotic game. I love to surprise these girls fucked whole day, some in business for years, like Alissa on Summer 2017 at LR, or wow Iranian at GT Vienna on last Summer.
Definitely want to go to Wellcum Next Summer.
I don't know if same finances for GT German boss, but yes, as I often wrote, when now closed since more than 1 year, when didn't reopen like LR, and don't know if will reopen same after a polizei control but not about WGs, but wish girls will get private shower for reopening, and I think more about Germans than Romanians who are usually higher level for hygiene, rather than cat washing in toilets behind desk and tasting toilets on foreplay. As told one here and I liked his: eau de toilets, for GT perfume. A LR then GT cooker moved to 6 ens NL like few GT girls. When I don t think so much for German brothels on 2021 which is worst than 2020 for Germany, but maybe NL could reopen under heat, and beautiful YY is really missing, would be great if allowed to reopen and I m sure many NRW WGs would move for freedom to work there, like some WGs like Sharks for same. YY is more attractive to work than 6 ens for WGs from Germany, and I don t mean only for Germans.If DE still shut down, hope that owners of YY can work things out with local po po and reopen, take advantage of pent up demand for FKK. Good wellness there, good girls too!
If DE still shut down, hope that owners of YY can work things out with local po po and reopen, take advantage of pent up demand for FKK. Good wellness there, good girls too!Germany won t reopen soon, but unfortunately YY is not welcome by Roermond female mayor. 2 g drugs was just bullshit, when I never saw so often a labrador searching, in any other club. For sure, would be great if could reopen, was high level club with shower in rooms.
Definitely want to go to Wellcum Next Summer.Wish will open like on last Summer, my restaurant for Zoncolan, even not same level than on great level Summer 2017, with exceptional Lena. Ro for me. After discovery, I loved when she gave me pillow to put under her ass, opening her legs, behaving like: I wait for you to take care of me. GT Vienna may also worth for casting and some good level. Missing is Marina in Slovenia, not far from Wellcum, also close to Zoncolan, beautiful club where I enjoyed Mila. Ro on Summer 2018 and met a Swiss girl, super GFE Sandi speaking French, there.
Not far from Wellcum, also close to Zoncolan, beautiful club where I enjoyed Mila. Ro on Summer 2018 and met a Swiss girl, super GFE Sandi speaking French, there.
Do you remember the name of the beautiful club.
, not far from Wellcum, also close to Zoncolan, beautiful club where I enjoyed Mila. Ro on Summer 2018 and met a Swiss girl, super GFE Sandi speaking French, there.
Do you remember the name of the beautiful club.Written below, Marina in Slovenia was a very beautiful club, but unfortunately closed before covid. If You are in hurry, Zeus, Cleo, Aphrodite, History and Westside are open in Switzerland, starting around 120 € for entry with services and 30 mn with a girl. 2 Globe brothers are more expensive than Globe and only direkt zimmer.
Definitely want to go to Wellcum Next Summer.In the Austria section you will find two threads 80% dedicated to only Wellcum.
Hi all,
I'm new here. I've been wondering for months if Dalma from Sharks is active. Does anybody have info about her?
, not far from Wellcum, also close to Zoncolan, beautiful club where I enjoyed Mila. Ro on Summer 2018 and met a Swiss girl, super GFE Sandi speaking French, there.
Do you remember the name of the beautiful club.Andiamo Men's club, Villach.
Andiamo Men's club, Villach.Wellcum gets most the attention and clients, but I've always enjoyed Andiamo and had good experiences there. Plus, it's easier to access if you're staying right in Villach (you can just walk to it).
Hi all,
I'm new here. I've been wondering for months if Dalma from Sharks is active. Does anybody have info about her?Damn. Dalma has a lot of dudes wifed up. Tread lightly sir. I know of at least 2 men who have been funding her life.
Andiamo Men's club, Villach.My post was about club Marina in Slovenia, about 1h30 driving from Wellcum, but I also enjoyed Andiamo with inside and outside swimming pools which was better than Wellcum for me on 2016 and 2019, with more attractive girls, but unfortunately, when Wellcum had very average casting on last Summer, but Andiamo didn't open, when was reopened on 2019. When Wellcum is number 1 in Austria, Italians land.
Damn. Dalma has a lot of dudes wifed up. Tread lightly sir. I know of at least 2 men who have been funding her life.I'm not wifed up, she's simply one of my favourite girls at Sharks (together with Scarlett, Alma, Kylie. Even though Kylie used to be much better a couple of years ago). Considering that many other girls from Sharks have been spotted working in private places, I was wondering if she's doing the same.
Wellcum gets most the attention and clients, but I've always enjoyed Andiamo and had good experiences there. Plus, it's easier to access if you're staying right in Villach (you can just walk to it).Thanks guys for your help, Planning my tripTo Vienna, When things open up, Hope to go to all these places.
Damn. Dalma has a lot of dudes wifed up. Tread lightly sir. I know of at least 2 men who have been funding her life.I've never been a fan of Dalma, but I have also heard that she has 'external' support!
I've never been a fan of Dalma, but I have also heard that she has 'external' support!Same, but I guess she's doing something right.
To the OP's question, I don't have any info about her escorting but I kind of doubt it. She must give awesome service due to her following but she does not seem to be the best suited for escort advertisements. She's obviously attractive to many men but I imagine that it would be hard for her to compete with the better lookers that went the escort route. Her skills seem better suited for the brothel environment where she can seduce men with her personality and service, earning loyal followers. I question her ability to get enough business in hotels in order to risk the legal consequences.
I've never been a fan of Dalma, but I have also heard that she has 'external' support!Well it's put of doubt that she offers a good service even though she is maybe not the youngest or hottest one at Sharks. I like the time with her and it would be cool to have her as an Escort. Unfortunately I haven't found anything about her on the internet.
She must give awesome service due to her following but she does not seem to be the best suited for escort advertisements. She's obviously attractive to many men but I imagine that it would be hard for her to compete with the better lookers that went the escort route. Her skills seem better suited for the brothel environment where she can seduce men with her personality and service, earning loyal followers. I question her ability to get enough business in hotels in order to risk the legal consequences.WGs often use fake photos (or old photos) in their advertisements. Over time, these bait-and-switch WGs will accumulate negative reviews, but many WGs just change their alias, city, and phone number whenever that happens. Personally, with independent escorts, I never really book a WG who has zero reviews. However, other mongers are either too lazy to do their research, or they do not mind being the first monger to review her, "taking one for the team."
Same, but I guess she's doing something right.
To the OP's question, I don't have any info about her escorting but I kind of doubt it. She must give awesome service due to her following but she does not seem to be the best suited for escort advertisements. She's obviously attractive to many men but I imagine that it would be hard for her to compete with the better lookers that went the escort route. Her skills seem better suited for the brothel environment where she can seduce men with her personality and service, earning loyal followers. I question her ability to get enough business in hotels in order to risk the legal consequences.She often told me about her Escort services and she also said that she would have done also for me (I simply did not want to spend that much money), that is why I was wondering if anybody had contacts with her. I honestly don't care of who is supporting her and what she is doing, I just like her service (especially her blowjobs) and I would like to meet her.
In one German forum, a user reported that she is now working in a casino in Frankfurt (I also knew this from her) but did not add much about her doing Escort.
Well it's put of doubt that she offers a good service even though she is maybe not the youngest or hottest one at Sharks. I like the time with her and it would be cool to have her as an Escort. Unfortunately I haven't found anything about her on the internet.Absolutely and you are right in trying to find her! Beauty is very subjective and I was also looking for Lena. De for a while, after she left Sharks (with no luck though! Sometimes we are also drawn by the girl's personality / attitude in addition to her beauty. I remember Sandra. Ro, Sophie. De and Lora. Hun as beautiful girls with a great attitude. Ahhh memories!
Same, but I guess she's doing something right.
To the OP's question, I don't have any info about her escorting but I kind of doubt it. She must give awesome service due to her following but she does not seem to be the best suited for escort advertisements. She's obviously attractive to many men but I imagine that it would be hard for her to compete with the better lookers that went the escort route. Her skills seem better suited for the brothel environment where she can seduce men with her personality and service, earning loyal followers. I question her ability to get enough business in hotels in order to risk the legal consequences.Didn't see many wow beauties among girls claiming to escort in Germany. Never went with Shayen nor Coco at GT, not pretty enough for me, even wonderful tits for Shayen.
She often told me about her Escort services and she also said that she would have done also for me (I simply did not want to spend that much money), that is why I was wondering if anybody had contacts with her. I honestly don't care of who is supporting her and what she is doing.By telling you about her escort services, she might have been trying to groom you. Or at least see if you would take the bait. Based on what others are saying, it is likely that Dalma provides escort services but only to select few whales. If that is indeed the case, then she probably has no need to publicly advertise or seek new clients (until her whales stop supporting her). If she can live off just ten or so mongers, that lowers her risk profile with law enforcement. The only men who have her contact info would be her whales, and it is doubtful they would want to share. Best of luck with your search.
By telling you about her escort services, she might have been trying to groom you. Or at least see if you would take the bait. Based on what others are saying, it is likely that Dalma provides escort services but only to select few whales. If that is indeed the case, then she probably has no need to publicly advertise or seek new clients (until her whales stop supporting her). If she can live off just ten or so mongers, that lowers her risk profile with law enforcement. The only men who have her contact info would be her whales, and it is doubtful they would want to share. Best of luck with your search.I do have her contact (that I just used for knowing whether she was at Sharks those days I was planning to go there) but apparently she stopped answering when the pandemic started.
I do have her contact (that I just used for knowing whether she was at Sharks those days I was planning to go there) but apparently she stopped answering when the pandemic started.Some girls tell escorting to value themselves. Didn't you hear about Elen Sharks story about escorting in Dubaď? Some girls stopped business when clubs closed, maybe some will return on reopening, needing our money.
... I was also looking for Lena. De for a while, after she left Sharks (with no luck though! ...I encountered Lena, De. in Sharks in early 2020 after 4 years of not seeing her. She looked a lot less nice than in 2016 but I banged her anyway for old times sake.
Some girls tell escorting to value themselves. Didn't you hear about Elen Sharks story about escorting in Duba? Some girls stopped business when clubs closed, maybe some will return on reopening, needing our money.It might be. I honestly hope that Dalma is anyway still in the business so that I can bang her before the reopening of the FKKs, but I've honestly lost my hope. I've tried contacting her twice since the pandemic started (and she used to reply my messages) but without success.
It might be. I honestly hope that Dalma is anyway still in the business so that I can bang her before the reopening of the FKKs, but I've honestly lost my hope. I've tried contacting her twice since the pandemic started (and she used to reply my messages) but without success.I don't know who Dalma is, never noticed her at Sharks. If you contact via whatsapp, do your message arrive or not?
I encountered Lena, De. in Sharks in early 2020 after 4 years of not seeing her. She looked a lot less nice than in 2016 but I banged her anyway for old times sake.Yes, I remember you posted this some time ago. Did she say where she went when she left Sharks?
I don't know who Dalma is, never noticed her at Sharks. If you contact via whatsapp, do your message arrive or not?Nope, I'm sending her SMS messages. She used to reply my SMS messages (I've never been intrusive, I just used to ask something like "are you going to be at Sharks today? But since the pandemic has started I've tried twice without success. That's why I'm wondering if anybody is in contact with her and maybe tell me whether she's still in the business and available for escort dates.
Yes, I remember you posted this some time ago. Did she say where she went when she left Sharks?I did not ask her and we did not chat long enough for her to go into those details. She was in Sharks for just a few days and then she was gone again.
Nope, I'm sending her SMS messages. She used to reply my SMS messages (I've never been intrusive, I just used to ask something like "are you going to be at Sharks today? But since the pandemic has started I've tried twice without success. That's why I'm wondering if anybody is in contact with her and maybe tell me whether she's still in the business and available for escort dates.Many of these girls have been out of work for a year. I wonder how many have resigned to live a normal life, dating men their own age, from their own culture. Many of the girls have never known normal adult life with normal healthy relationships, working in prostitution since they were 18, some even earlier than that. What will being home, living like a normal person in their own country, with money in their pockets do to their motivation to go back to work in a foreign country, often living in dormitory style conditions, sleeping in the same building in which they work.
Nope, I'm sending her SMS messages. She used to reply my SMS messages (I've never been intrusive, I just used to ask something like "are you going to be at Sharks today? But since the pandemic has started I've tried twice without success. That's why I'm wondering if anybody is in contact with her and maybe tell me whether she's still in the business and available for escort dates.I can't help you, but try maybe to send via whatsapp. Some don't use anymore sms, if she changed her phone contract, not meaning changing number.
I can't help you, but try maybe to send via whatsapp. Some don't use anymore sms, if she changed her phone contract, not meaning changing number.Worth a shot. Also if not using iPhone or other read-receipt enabled messenger, WhatsApp could tell you if she received / read the message.
Stalker tip: Send 2 messages with one being a picture, forcing her to open it if she what is to read it. This way she can't just preview the message without a read-receipt. But bets off if read-receipts are turned off.
I can't help you, but try maybe to send via whatsapp. Some don't use anymore sms, if she changed her phone contract, not meaning changing number.The whatsapp contact connected to that phone number seems to be deactivated, and anyway she suggested me to write her via SMS messages. As I said, she used to reply my messages before the pandemic, but afterwards not. It a shame because I find Dalma one of the best girls I've met in pay sex and I'd really like to meet her again soon.
My post was about club Marina in Slovenia, about 1h30 driving from Wellcum, but I also enjoyed Andiamo with inside and outside swimming pools which was better than Wellcum for me on 2016 and 2019, with more attractive girls, but unfortunately, when Wellcum had very average casting on last Summer, but Andiamo didn't open, when was reopened on 2019. When Wellcum is number 1 in Austria, Italians land.My apologies to Siri. Thank you for the correction. BTW which languages do the girls and the desk staff speak at Marina?
ExpatLover
04-10-21, 05:07
My apologies to Siri. Thank you for the correction. BTW which languages do the girls and the desk staff speak at Marina?In Slovenia most of the people can speak English or and German.
PaulInZurich
04-10-21, 07:38
Many of these girls have been out of work for a year. I wonder how many have resigned to live a normal life, dating men their own age, from their own culture. Many of the girls have never known normal adult life with normal healthy relationships, working in prostitution since they were 18, some even earlier than that. What will being home, living like a normal person in their own country, with money in their pockets do to their motivation to go back to work in a foreign country, often living in dormitory style conditions, sleeping in the same building in which they work.I don't believe any miss the working conditions, but how many can live off their savings, how many decide that they don't actually need Philipp Plein clothing and how many will tell their "iubi" that he should be getting a job and earn some money too.
Definitely some will not return. But every year there is a new crop of young girls who decide that living of a cashier salary at Carrefour is not good enough.
The whatsapp contact connected to that phone number seems to be deactivated, and anyway she suggested me to write her via SMS messages. As I said, she used to reply my messages before the pandemic, but afterwards not. It a shame because I find Dalma one of the best girls I've met in pay sex and I'd really like to meet her again soon.To all my girls who stopped, I always wished a better life and to be free about their money. I don t know when Sharks will reopen, but I m pretty sure it will reopen, when not sure for all clubs. Maybe she will need money and return. You will see, or find a new lover.
My apologies to Siri. Thank you for the correction. BTW which languages do the girls and the desk staff speak at Marina?Desk and WGs spoke English, mostly Romanians, at Marina in Slovenia on Italian border, but as I wrote, it closed before covid, nothing about covid. When heat will return in EU, like on last Summer, Wellcum on Italian border and GT Vienna and some other Austrian clubs should reopen. Switzerland and Spain also. Even vaccine get delayed in EU from lack and problems about AZ and maybe also about new Johnson, but heat should help organisms to become stronger. Let s see when opened when no vaccine on last Summer.
I don't believe any miss the working conditions, but how many can live off their savings, how many decide that they don't actually need Philipp Plein clothing and how many will tell their "iubi" that he should be getting a job and earn some money too.
Definitely some will not return. But every year there is a new crop of young girls who decide that living of a cashier salary at Carrefour is not good enough.I believe many will return to the clubs. Just before the crisis started, back in March last year, I remember a couple of girls telling me that if the clubs were going to close, they would use that time to be with family or escorting, but they said they very much prefer the clubs as they feel safer there.
I don't believe any miss the working conditions, but how many can live off their savings, how many decide that they don't actually need Philipp Plein clothing and how many will tell their "iubi" that he should be getting a job and earn some money too.
Definitely some will not return. But every year there is a new crop of young girls who decide that living of a cashier salary at Carrefour is not good enough.Do you know supermarket cashier salary in far deep Romania, let s say around Sibiu or Iasie? Furthermore when the girl got a baby, and guy ran away like so many. Didn t You hear such stories? Or maybe You think high level of life in Romania after the wall, girls just dreaming to be fucked by Western old fat. When most can t have good self image from their job, like I can be proud, maybe they need to show different image, even only fog. I wonder what they see in mirror, when I know what I see.
I believe many will return to the clubs. Just before the crisis started, back in March last year, I remember a couple of girls telling me that if the clubs were going to close, they would use that time to be with family or escorting, but they said they very much prefer the clubs as they feel safer there.Yes, many Germans told me working in brothels is safer than escorting in Germany, preferring, even lower rates, but not always lower earning at the end of their day. On mid 2020, mostly same girls returning, even some moved to Switzerland, many Oase girls at Globe, also 3 Germans from GT. Reina and Neli from LR in BTCCI.
PaulInZurich
04-10-21, 19:21
I believe many will return to the clubs. Just before the crisis started, back in March last year, I remember a couple of girls telling me that if the clubs were going to close, they would use that time to be with family or escorting, but they said they very much prefer the clubs as they feel safer there.I heard from many FKK girls that they gave up escorting because of the perceived or real risk. FKK is hard work with tough hours, but they can screen most creeps by chatting for a few minutes or by getting intel from other WGs.
Could anyone suggest the way to reach FKK Darmstadt from Frankfurt Hahn using public transport Please??
Could anyone suggest the way to reach FKK Darmstadt from Frankfurt Hahn using public transport Please??Train from Frankfurt, bus from airport, to Darmstadt.
Could anyone suggest the way to reach FKK Darmstadt from Frankfurt Hahn using public transport Please??It was pretty unnerving the first time to Find sharks, after you do it it's fairly easy, There is an app for your phone For public transportation, Works really good, once to get the hang of it, This is a video on YouTube To help you find your way. Better than nothing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9rGXfzld88.
I don't believe any miss the working conditions, but how many can live off their savings, how many decide that they don't actually need Philipp Plein clothing and how many will tell their "iubi" that he should be getting a job and earn some money too.
Definitely some will not return. But every year there is a new crop of young girls who decide that living of a cashier salary at Carrefour is not good enough.Oh I agree. Just pointing out that we might not see some of the old favorites and hopefully due to the girls gaining some life perspective. A year is a long time, especially for a 20 something. Perhaps some girls have discovered other motivations besides making money and expensive habits. Maybe I'm giving them too much credit.
For sure, there will be new ones to replenish the old stock.
It was pretty unnerving the first time to Find sharks, after you do it it's fairly easy, There is an app for your phone For public transportation, Works really good, once to get the hang of it, This is a video on YouTube To help you find your way. Better than nothing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9rGXfzld88.He's coming from Frankfurt Hahn Airport, not Frankfurt Hauptbahnhof, so that video doesn't really help. Quickest option by public transport is to take the bus from Frankfurt Hahn Airport to Frankfurt Airport.
https://www.flibco.com
Then the bus from Frankfurt airport to Darmstadt HB.
https://www.rmv.de/c/en/tickets/your-ticket/tickets-overview/local-tickets/airliner-direct-bus-darmstadt-frankfurt-airport
From Darmstadt HB take a taxi, or get the bus as explained here:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3225-FKK-Sharks-Darmstadt&p=2240906&viewfull=1#post2240906
He's coming from Frankfurt Hahn Airport, not Frankfurt Hauptbahnhof, so that video doesn't really help. Quickest option by public transport is to take the bus from Frankfurt Hahn Airport to Frankfurt Airport.
https://www.flibco.com
Then the bus from Frankfurt airport to Darmstadt HB.
https://www.rmv.de/c/en/tickets/your-ticket/tickets-overview/local-tickets/airliner-direct-bus-darmstadt-frankfurt-airport
From Darmstadt HB take a taxi, or get the bus as explained here:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3225-FKK-Sharks-Darmstadt&p=2240906&viewfull=1#post2240906Thanks indeed, I already know how to get to FKK shark from Frankfurt HB. If you fly budget airlines in Europe many budget Airlines (if not all) are landing on Frankfurt-Hahn airport not Frankfurt Am Main Airport.
Thanks indeed, I already know how to get to FKK shark from Frankfurt HB. If you fly budget airlines in Europe many budget Airlines (if not all) are landing on Frankfurt-Hahn airport not Frankfurt Am Main Airport.My mistake, Anyway, The app that I used for Frankfurt transit Was RMV, You can download it on your phone, Works well.
To all my girls who stopped, I always wished a better life and to be free about their money. I don t know when Sharks will reopen, but I m pretty sure it will reopen, when not sure for all clubs. Maybe she will need money and return. You will see, or find a new lover.As I probably already mentioned, somebody on a German forum said that Dalma is back to the job she was doing while not working ad Sharks in a Casino in Frankfurt, but not sure if she's accepting people for escorting.
As I probably already mentioned, somebody on a German forum said that Dalma is back to the job she was doing while not working ad Sharks in a Casino in Frankfurt, but not sure if she's accepting people for escorting.I would be surprised casino are open in Germany when strict lockdown since Christmas, when brothels never reopened in Hessen since 13 months, only Saarland starting to reopen a bit. Or do You mean supermarket brand Casino we have in France? My advice: don t believe all what is written on forums, laughable what I read sometimes about girls I know. NL and Germans are not really reliable for me.
Oh I agree. Just pointing out that we might not see some of the old favorites and hopefully due to the girls gaining some life perspective. A year is a long time, especially for a 20 something. Perhaps some girls have discovered other motivations besides making money and expensive habits. Maybe I'm giving them too much credit.
For sure, there will be new ones to replenish the old stock.On mid 2020 reopening, mostly same girls, some moving to other club, didn't see many newbies, when business was quite slow. Pretty sure will be same on next reopening, when business will be difficult for new girls, easier for regular girls when business is slow.
I would be surprised casino are open in Germany when strict lockdown since Christmas, when brothels never reopened in Hessen since 13 months, only Saarland starting to reopen a bit. Or do You mean supermarket brand Casino we have in France? My advice: don t believe all what is written on forums, laughable what I read sometimes about girls I know. NL and Germans are not really reliable for me.I live in Germany (even though I'm not German) and I can witness that Germany's had a real and hard lockdown only since December (or end of November). Before that time, many things have always been open, including entertainment places, gyms, restaurants, museums. Even brothels have reopened for some weeks in autumn and prostitution itself has never been forbidden in private places. What I have read on a German forum (about Dalma working in an amusement hall, a Spielhalle in German) dates back to months ago, therefore it is plausible, considering also that she had mentioned that job many times when I've met her. Now everything is closed and she obviously can't be working there.
As I probably already mentioned, somebody on a German forum said that Dalma is back to the job she was doing while not working ad Sharks in a Casino in Frankfurt, but not sure if she's accepting people for escorting.Man you are persistent LOL. I was the one provided the information before they closed the thread of course. I don't have direct contact with Dalma but just happened to know it when chatting with another girl. And it was of course before the second lockdown in Germany. What happened now, I don't know. But those girls read the forum (this one, not the German one) when they are working in Sharks. So maybe she or one of her friends can see it as you post here. Good luck!
Perhaps some girls have discovered other motivations besides making money and expensive habits. Motivations? Really? Is that the key word in this pandemic? In Romania? 2021?
Man you are persistent LOL. I was the one provided the information before they closed the thread of course. I don't have direct contact with Dalma but just happened to know it when chatting with another girl. And it was of course before the second lockdown in Germany. What happened now, I don't know. But those girls read the forum (this one, not the German one) when they are working in Sharks. So maybe she or one of her friends can see it as you post here. Good luck!Haha I'm sorry, it was not my intention to be persistent, I was just replying all the messages.
I live in Germany (even though I'm not German) and I can witness that Germany's had a real and hard lockdown only since December (or end of November). Before that time, many things have always been open, including entertainment places, gyms, restaurants, museums. Even brothels have reopened for some weeks in autumn and prostitution itself has never been forbidden in private places. What I have read on a German forum (about Dalma working in an amusement hall, a Spielhalle in German) dates back to months ago, therefore it is plausible, considering also that she had mentioned that job many times when I've met her. Now everything is closed and she obviously can't be working there.Differences between landers and Hessen brothels never reopened, when NRW or Berlin did, but I wish You to find her if she still works this business, or maybe will return when reopening, girls usually returning to home club, but nobody know when. Many Sharks girls and not only at Sharks, but also at LR, GT, Gold, Oase, Globe, read us, telling what we write.
Differences between landers and Hessen brothels never reopened, when NRW or Berlin did, but I wish You to find her if she still works this business, or maybe will return when reopening, girls usually returning to home club, but nobody know when. Many Sharks girls and not only at Sharks, but also at LR, GT, Gold, Oase, Globe, read us, telling what we write.I was referring to her working in a Casino. That is totally plausible because such things have been open for long time in many German regions.
On mid 2020 reopening, mostly same girls, some moving to other club, didn't see many newbies, when business was quite slow. Pretty sure will be same on next reopening, when business will be difficult for new girls, easier for regular girls when business is slow.Summer 2020 was only 3 months after lock downs. We are now over 1 year removed from initial restrictions. If you do not think many things will change in the life of a 20 something year old after 1+ year away, then you might not be in tune with the fickle nature of young people.
I think most girls will come back, but it is not exactly going out on a limb to expect many girls to never return.
On mid 2020 reopening, mostly same girls, some moving to other club, didn't see many newbies, when business was quite slow. Pretty sure will be same on next reopening, when business will be difficult for new girls, easier for regular girls when business is slow.I'll even add that Kate of GT has already told many regulars that she does not plan to return to work. Perhaps it will only be temporary and maybe she will change her mind when she needs the money. Who knows. But it is interesting that she made that decision shortly after we spoke about her new Dutch (Belgian?) "boyfriend" last year.
To not be open to the possibility that some attractive girls in their 20's will not settle into long term relationships and leave the business is wishfully ignoring the normal life events of normal people. Or perhaps it is just being argumentative and contrarian.
Heck, one of my regulars has stopped contacting me when she used to do so every few weeks just to chat. Coincidentally, she has been posting pictures with a man close to her age when she has never posted a picture with a man in the 4 years that I've known her.
Motivations? Really? Is that the key word in this pandemic? In Romania? 2021?When high level of life in Romania, with their high level of education, they should find well paid job in Iasie. Only peste are not able to find a job, to feed beloved GF and baby, when they could buy a dacia to make work Romanian business and give employment.
Since the clubs in Germany are closed, I went to Switzerland last week. The Cleo Club in Bargen, near Bern, was recommended to me. There would also be some Sharks girls working there. I went there last week. Well, it's not like the Sharks. The club is a bit smaller. But the line-up with 40 ladies was absolutely great. I felt very comfortable and who did I see there. Elif and Amalia. The two sweet horny sisters from the Sharks. It was a great reunion and the three of us were very happy. Elif works at the club under the name Chloe. My joy was so great that we enjoyed a hot threesome. 1 hour.
Full of eroticism and lust with these two wonderful and personable sexy girls. The way is long, but I will come again. It was 100% worth it for me.
Since the clubs in Germany are closed, I went to Switzerland last week. The Cleo Club in Bargen, near Bern, was recommended to me. There would also be some Sharks girls working there. I went there last week. Well, it's not like the Sharks. The club is a bit smaller. But the line-up with 40 ladies was absolutely great. I felt very comfortable and who did I see there. Elif and Amalia. The two sweet horny sisters from the Sharks. It was a great reunion and the three of us were very happy. Elif works at the club under the name Chloe. My joy was so great that we enjoyed a hot threesome. 1 hour.
Full of eroticism and lust with these two wonderful and personable sexy girls. The way is long, but I will come again. It was 100% worth it for me.I am not great on names. If it is the two "sisters' that I have in mind, one being a pale blonde, then they were barely worth it even at Sharks' (pre-Covid) price. Not sure how much you had to pay; glad you liked it though and had a good time. That is all that matters.
Cleo is only around 95 € for entry, I think foods now and 30 mn in bed, less expensive than in Germany. When Germany, NL and Austria are closed, when Swiss brothel ZH is also closed, but other Swiss clubs need to make discount offer. This business must really be slow only with Swiss. Many WGs moved to Switzerland.
Just finished reading the last 18 pages since my last post here on 09-21-2020. Yours is the only post with real monger info abet it's Switzerland. Thanks.
Funman13.
Since the clubs in Germany are closed, I went to Switzerland last week. The Cleo Club in Bargen, near Bern, was recommended to me. There would also be some Sharks girls working there. I went there last week. Well, it's not like the Sharks. The club is a bit smaller. But the line-up with 40 ladies was absolutely great. I felt very comfortable and who did I see there. Elif and Amalia. The two sweet horny sisters from the Sharks. It was a great reunion and the three of us were very happy. Elif works at the club under the name Chloe. My joy was so great that we enjoyed a hot threesome. 1 hour.
Full of eroticism and lust with these two wonderful and personable sexy girls. The way is long, but I will come again. It was 100% worth it for me.
Since the clubs in Germany are closed, I went to Switzerland last week. The Cleo Club in Bargen, near Bern, was recommended to me. There would also be some Sharks girls working there. I went there last week. Well, it's not like the Sharks. The club is a bit smaller. But the line-up with 40 ladies was absolutely great. I felt very comfortable and who did I see there. Elif and Amalia. The two sweet horny sisters from the Sharks. It was a great reunion and the three of us were very happy. Elif works at the club under the name Chloe. My joy was so great that we enjoyed a hot threesome. 1 hour.
Full of eroticism and lust with these two wonderful and personable sexy girls. The way is long, but I will come again. It was 100% worth it for me.Happy to hear some of you are enjoying the Saunas still in this dry season. Missing the Saunas in FR, Klon and Dusseldorf. Keep going friend and upload the experiences.
Regards.
I am not great on names. If it is the two "sisters' that I have in mind, one being a pale blonde, then they were barely worth it even at Sharks' (pre-Covid) price. Not sure how much you had to pay; glad you liked it though and had a good time. That is all that matters.2 Sharks looking like sisters, but not twins. At Sharks since few years, usually staying close to stairs to rooms.
I don't know if these are these sisters. In any case, the two sisters. Elif - new Chloe and Amalia. Who used to be at the Sharks and now at the Cleo Club in Switzerland are great for me.
In Switzerland, some clubs are open to a limited extent. Club History, Club Westside, Club Zeus, Club Cleo, Club Freubad etc. And everywhere.
Distributed it to Sharks girls. For me the visit was worth it and.
I will go to the Cleo Club again and also visit other clubs in Switzerland. The prices in the Cleo Club are fair. It's worth checking out the homepage.
I am not great on names. If it is the two "sisters' that I have in mind, one being a pale blonde, then they were barely worth it even at Sharks' (pre-Covid) price. Not sure how much you had to pay; glad you liked it though and had a good time. That is all that matters.Olif and Amira?
Can't remember the pale, blonde one's name for sure. She had a nice body and good tits but not that skillful, yet not bad for young, civilian girl sex standards.
Most people say her sister was a better performer. Wouldn't know myself. She eventually put on some weight and dropped out of my P6 standards before trying her. And from some angles, her face was a bit butter.
DiverOyster
04-29-21, 20:11
Since the clubs in Germany are closed, I went to Switzerland last week. The Cleo Club in Bargen, near Bern, was recommended to me. There would also be some Sharks girls working there. I went there last week. Well, it's not like the Sharks. The club is a bit smaller. But the line-up with 40 ladies was absolutely great. I felt very comfortable and who did I see there. Elif and Amalia. The two sweet horny sisters from the Sharks. It was a great reunion and the three of us were very happy. Elif works at the club under the name Chloe. My joy was so great that we enjoyed a hot threesome. 1 hour.
Full of eroticism and lust with these two wonderful and personable sexy girls. The way is long, but I will come again. It was 100% worth it for me.I had many wonderful sessions with these 2 sisters at Sharks. I first met them at Sharks around 2017. I am glad that they have found gainful employment in CH. I know some Sharks girls are escorting in DE.
Olif and Amira?
Can't remember the pale, blonde one's name for sure. She had a nice body and good tits but not that skillful, yet not bad for young, civilian girl sex standards.
Most people say her sister was a better performer. Wouldn't know myself. She eventually put on some weight and dropped out of my P6 standards before trying her. And from some angles, her face was a bit butter.Elif and Amalia. Both average face for me, I can't say more.
I don't know if these are these sisters. In any case, the two sisters. Elif - new Chloe and Amalia. Who used to be at the Sharks and now at the Cleo Club in Switzerland are great for me.
In Switzerland, some clubs are open to a limited extent. Club History, Club Westside, Club Zeus, Club Cleo, Club Freubad etc. And everywhere.
Distributed it to Sharks girls. For me the visit was worth it and.
I will go to the Cleo Club again and also visit other clubs in Switzerland. The prices in the Cleo Club are fair. It's worth checking out the homepage.ZH which is big brothel of Switzerland is closed since December. But Freubad and Zeus worth and less expensive. Only 99 CHF discount at Cleo, Swiss may not make good enough business.
Some Sharks girls seem sharking behavior now at Cleo. Be for discount 99 CHF for entry, foods and 30 mn in bed, or 229 with 1 hour in bed. Discount, Swiss business may not be enough, even when they are the only opened. I control easy not to go to take risk and nothing about covid which don t worry me much after my Summer 2020 and my few escorts, even too rare attractive now.
Found these while cleaning. Present one on Mondays and Tuesdays and you get EUR 20 off, they take it and give you another. Wonder if they will still be valid when Sharks reopens.
Found these while cleaning. Present one on Mondays and Tuesdays and you get EUR 20 off, they take it and give you another. Wonder if they will still be valid when Sharks reopens.I have one in my travelling bag and I will keep it until I know whether it is still valid or not.
Found these while cleaning. Present one on Mondays and Tuesdays and you get EUR 20 off, they take it and give you another. Wonder if they will still be valid when Sharks reopens.They gave another only on Monday, not Tuesday. Pretty sure they will accept on reopening, but I don't know when it will be in Germany. I don't see brothels scanning QR code, but in Switzerland they ask your data, some checking phone and ID, so brothels will be less crowded with some so good guys who don't want to give their data, and discounts are offered in Switzerland. At Sharks, entry and 30 mn in bed = 115 € or 95 on Mondays / Tuesdays. At Cleo. Be. Ch, 99 CHF = less than 95 € , for entry, foods, drinks, wellness and 30 mn in bed.
ExpatLover
05-11-21, 19:46
Some Sharks girls seem sharking behavior now at Cleo. Be for discount 99 CHF for entry, foods and 30 mn in bed, or 229 with 1 hour in bed. Discount, Swiss business may not be enough, even when they are the only opened. I control easy not to go to take risk and nothing about covid which don t worry me much after my Summer 2020 and my few escorts, even too rare attractive now.Thanks for your report, but sorry I only visit FKK in Germany and GT in Vienna. More and more I really don t care about prostitutes so difficult to find young natural beauties and I don't go with those kind of professionals switching from Germany to Switzerland and to Spain.
ExpatLover
05-11-21, 19:49
I had many wonderful sessions with these 2 sisters at Sharks. I first met them at Sharks around 2017. I am glad that they have found gainful employment in CH. I know some Sharks girls are escorting in DE.Ok you fucked them in 2017 now we are in 2021, let us imagine they got fucked 5 to 10 times everyday for sure I will never fuck them, I am only looking for young, natural beauties but nice to see that we still have so many men ready to pay for those overfucked prostitutes.
Good News in Germany, Cases are dropping fast, Vaccination rate +30% and increasing fast.
Any hope for Sharks reopening in July?
Carpaccio18
05-11-21, 22:24
Good News in Germany, Cases are dropping fast, Vaccination rate +30% and increasing fast.
Any hope for Sharks reopening in July?If UK and other places reaching 50% is anything to go by, cases drop dramatically at that level. And given the rate of jabs in Germany, the rates could be down seriously already by June.
Fingers crossed!
Ok you fucked them in 2017 now we are in 2021, let us imagine they got fucked 5 to 10 times everyday for sure I will never fuck them, I am only looking for young, natural beauties but nice to see that we still have so many men ready to pay for those overfucked prostitutes."I am only looking for natural beauties" - in a Sharks thread?
BigBuddy69
05-12-21, 05:44
"I am only looking for natural beauties" - in a Sharks thread?Don't worry he's just constantly doing 'copy' +'paste'.
Good News in Germany, Cases are dropping fast, Vaccination rate +30% and increasing fast.
Any hope for Sharks reopening in July?I'm guessing that there's a very slim chance, as FKK's will be at the back of the line of openings and if the UK is a good indicator then it's going to be at least 3 months of lowering of restrictions. I'm waiting for a September opening and that could still be optimistic. It really depends on how cautious the government (and states?) will be.
Ok you fucked them in 2017 now we are in 2021, let us imagine they got fucked 5 to 10 times everyday for sure I will never fuck them, I am only looking for young, natural beauties but nice to see that we still have so many men ready to pay for those overfucked prostitutes.OK, so you think the young and natural beauties prostitutes that you fucked in the past chose you as their first client? Ohhh that's so cute!
ExpatLover
05-12-21, 11:51
"I am only looking for natural beauties" - in a Sharks thread?This was possible several years back, I remember the time when every weeks new girls arrived directly with the bus from Romania and starting to work in World, Shark, Oase but probably this will not come back. Now we can fuck veteran girls with porn look, fake boobs, lips. I think that the offer adapt to the demand this is what the guys of 2021 are looking for.
ExpatLover
05-12-21, 11:54
Good News in Germany, Cases are dropping fast, Vaccination rate +30% and increasing fast.
Any hope for Sharks reopening in July?Only in Marseilles, 350 fully vaccinated people got the covid, the efficiency rate is more around 50%, but how can we trust companies like Pfister. Which were all condemned for bribery.
I have one in my travelling bag and I will keep it until I know whether it is still valid or not.I also have one, since years, because each Monday, they gave me new 20€ voucher.
Only in Marseilles, 350 fully vaccinated people got the covid, the efficiency rate is more around 50%, but how can we trust companies like Pfister. Which were all condemned for bribery.Marseille is beautiful place, but on another planet, like alien Raoult. Not reliable for example.
This was possible several years back, I remember the time when every weeks new girls arrived directly with the bus from Romania and starting to work in World, Shark, Oase but probably this will not come back. Now we can fuck veteran girls with porn look, fake boobs, lips. I think that the offer adapt to the demand this is what the guys of 2021 are looking for.Megan on end of November 2015 , Florentina. Ro, Madi 2. Ro, wow Tamara. Ro on June 2018 , but more and more porn looks. New culture, but not for me. Globe became silicon contest, some girls putting silicon between Oase or Artemis and Globe.
Agree. Weather prediction seems easy. But predictions of policians / public policy? I am personally a no-covid believer. So with that logic we could open in 4 weeks.
But that would require a super-sharp lockdown for 2-3 weeks. Like those we saw in NZ, AUS, TAIWAN etc. Since this isn't happening.
Sep-opening is realistic. I am even hoping for August! But I am an optimist.
I'm guessing that there's a very slim chance, as FKK's will be at the back of the line of openings and if the UK is a good indicator then it's going to be at least 3 months of lowering of restrictions. I'm waiting for a September opening and that could still be optimistic. It really depends on how cautious the government (and states?) will be.
Member #4748
05-19-21, 16:06
Agree. Weather prediction seems easy. But predictions of policians / public policy? I am personally a no-covid believer. So with that logic we could open in 4 weeks.
But that would require a super-sharp lockdown for 2-3 weeks. Like those we saw in NZ, AUS, TAIWAN etc. Since this isn't happening.
Sep-opening is realistic. I am even hoping for August! But I am an optimist.I hope so! I'm hoping the EU opens back to Americans without needing to show proof of vaccination. I need to get my Sharks fix!
Agree. Weather prediction seems easy. But predictions of policians / public policy? I am personally a no-covid believer. So with that logic we could open in 4 weeks.
But that would require a super-sharp lockdown for 2-3 weeks. Like those we saw in NZ, AUS, TAIWAN etc. Since this isn't happening.
Sep-opening is realistic. I am even hoping for August! But I am an optimist.Hope you're right. I'm confident that SixSense, Switzerland, and Austria will be mostly open by August, maybe even July. Germany however is a big question mark. It will be quite interesting how these places will handle vaccination status.
BigBuddy69
05-20-21, 05:54
Hope you're right. I'm confident that SixSense, Switzerland, and Austria will be mostly open by August, maybe even July. Germany however is a big question mark. It will be quite interesting how these places will handle vaccination status.Sixsens opened yesterday but on a degraded mode.
Only three hours of presence for 50 euros.
I hope so! I'm hoping the EU opens back to Americans without needing to show proof of vaccination. I need to get my Sharks fix!That won't happen for a long time. The EU has agreed to allow visitors back from counties on a safe list with low cases but the final decision will include a requirement that visitors are fully vaccinated.
Hope you're right. I'm confident that SixSense, Switzerland, and Austria will be mostly open by August, maybe even July. Germany however is a big question mark. It will be quite interesting how these places will handle vaccination status.According to a post on the Graz thread, Paradise is opening tomorrow. Let's hope this marks the beginning of the end of the FKK drought.
According to a post on the Graz thread, Paradise is opening tomorrow. Let's hope this marks the beginning of the end of the FKK drought.Not the same. I was in FKKs in Switzerland and Austria many times last summer but most FKKs in Germany, particularly Hesse, were closed. The way Markel and Germany is handing Covid, I doubt Sharks will open until next year. Germans need to wake up and vote correctly in September if they want their lives back.
Not the same. I was in FKKs in Switzerland and Austria many times last summer but most FKKs in Germany, particularly Hesse, were closed. The way Markel and Germany is handing Covid, I doubt Sharks will open until next year. Germans need to wake up and vote correctly in September if they want their lives back.Well Merkel is already out so you won't have to worry about her.
Not the same. I was in FKKs in Switzerland and Austria many times last summer but most FKKs in Germany, particularly Hesse, were closed. The way Markel and Germany is handing Covid, I doubt Sharks will open until next year. Germans need to wake up and vote correctly in September if they want their lives back.Yes I agree Markel was Obsessive, but I hope with the fast vaccination rate and low cases and death in June, she will not be able to justify her decisions to close the economy, I hope everything will open is Summer including FKK.
Yes I agree Markel was Obsessive, but I hope with the fast vaccination rate and low cases and death in June, she will not be able to justify her decisions to close the economy, I hope everything will open is Summer including FKK.Germany just put UK as risky area with 2 weeks quarantine, even you are vaccined and even if negative test on arrival, ranked mutants area. They seemed to understand vaccined can still spread, when UK mutant killed EU on this year and now Indian mutant spreading in UK, maybe black mushroom will also follow. Germany just seem to think they already had enough deaths, around 90 000 and not finished, I won t blame them to try to protect their citizens. When we have now in France a UK mutant mutation. When 80% cases in India were under UK mutant and now Indian mutant is spreading in UK, kind of tennis.
Yes I agree Markel was Obsessive, but I hope with the fast vaccination rate and low cases and death in June, she will not be able to justify her decisions to close the economy, I hope everything will open is Summer including FKK.The infection rate is dropping fast because of the vaccination program, 67 per 100,000 now. It could be another month, more likely two before FKK's will be allowed to open so August is starting to look a little more promising.
The infection rate is dropping fast because of the vaccination program, 67 per 100,000 now. It could be another month, more likely two before FKK's will be allowed to open so August is starting to look a little more promising.Just before elections? Really suicidal politics. And I wonder how it will be after holidays, when cold will return.
HammerTime96
05-22-21, 22:29
Not the same. I was in FKKs in Switzerland and Austria many times last summer but most FKKs in Germany, particularly Hesse, were closed. The way Markel and Germany is handing Covid, I doubt Sharks will open until next year. Germans need to wake up and vote correctly in September if they want their lives back.I fully agree, but even IF Germans will vote differently, it will take many years to rebuild much of the nation and get Germany back to the economic foundation that FKK clubs are built upon.
Here (in German) are some videos from NDR German State TV highlighting the complete FUCK UP that Germany made of the Covid1984 situation. It's not just government bureaucracy, but also a total lack of customer service and local authorities that could not organize a binge drinking party in a brewery.
Local nonsense: https://youtu.be/L_z-YW5Io7g.
More local madness: https://youtu.be/ZOeGCVXAaHE.
Hamburger business owner going bankrupt, getting no financial assistance: https://youtu.be/V24C5mHPpuk.
Unable to get vaccinated + guy told on 17th Jan that he should have quarantined 3 weeks ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5tpI9BHEA0.
Unable to get an appointment for vaccination + chaotic Covid rules: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKxccdNYLNU.
Police detectives working from home (taking criminal investigation dossiers home! But not allowed to print out anything at home: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HRol45GUBI.
The list goes on and on and on. You really couldn't make this shit up, even if you tried. LOL!
And yet people think that Germany is the country of the Autobahn, high tech, and where everything is super-organised!
Expect this chaos to continue, and heaven forbid, if the Green Party wins in September, this will mean the end of Germany as we know it. They already are talking about "Klima-Lockdowns" in Germany: shutdowns for environmental reasons! This is NOT a joke, as the German Constitutional Court in Karlshuhe has ruled that:
The judges ruled that young people’s “fundamental rights to a human future” were threatened and that the law in its current state jeopardised their freedom because the goals set were too focused on dates too far in the future.https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/29/historic-german-ruling-says-climate-goals-not-tough-enough
It's a far swim across the Atlantic back to the USA for American FKK Lovers (fully vaccinated, no doubt, hahaha) who will suddenly find return flights cancelled and FKK clubs closed again because Germany locked down another time, this time to 'save the planet. ' The European radical left has tasted blood and lockdowns in combination with Covid-Ecological scaremongering are effective tools to implement their neo-Marxist world views through the backdoor.
https://www.die-gdi.de/en/the-current-column/article/from-covid-19-to-climate-action/
Sixsens opened yesterday but on a degraded mode.
Only three hours of presence for 50 euros.Wow. Do they allow you to spend another 3 hours if you pay up 50 more? Or do you have to exit, stand in the line again and pay 50 to get back in?
Unless you want to meet up w / a specific girl that you like very much it appears to me that you are better off paying some hooker outside the club, if you need a release that badly.
How is the 3 hour period monitored and enforced?
SobeLizard
05-23-21, 21:37
I fully agree, but even IF Germans will vote differently, it will take many years to rebuild much of the nation and get Germany back to the economic foundation that FKK clubs are built upon.
Here (in German) are some videos from NDR German State TV highlighting the complete FUCK UP that Germany made of the Covid1984 situation. It's not just government bureaucracy, but also a total lack of customer service and local authorities that could not organize a binge drinking party in a brewery.
Local nonsense: https://youtu.be/L_z-YW5Io7g.
More local madness: https://youtu.be/ZOeGCVXAaHE.
Hamburger business owner going bankrupt, getting no financial assistance: https://youtu.be/V24C5mHPpuk.
Unable to get vaccinated + guy told on 17th Jan that he should have quarantined 3 weeks ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5tpI9BHEA0.
Unable to get an appointment for vaccination + chaotic Covid rules: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKxccdNYLNU.
Police detectives working from home (taking criminal investigation dossiers home! But not allowed to print out anything at home: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HRol45GUBI.
The list goes on and on and on. You really couldn't make this shit up, even if you tried. LOL!Well done.
An astute assessment on the current conditions.
Good resources of information and facts that back the sentiments in Germany.
Slightly on the negative side but good to know how a "segment of the population" lives in the current situation in German.
BigBuddy69
05-24-21, 06:41
Wow. Do they allow you to spend another 3 hours if you pay up 50 more? Or do you have to exit, stand in the line again and pay 50 to get back in?
Unless you want to meet up w / a specific girl that you like very much it appears to me that you are better off paying some hooker outside the club, if you need a release that badly.
How is the 3 hour period monitored and enforced?If the max number of people allowed inside is not reached yes you can stay 3 hours more for 50 euros.
There is another rule, they divided the club in two zones, a green one and a red one. If you want to see a girl in the other zone you have to ask the reception to let you change.
For the monitoring, there are only 15 guests allowed in each time slot so it must be rather easy for them to keep track of who's inside.
ExpatLover
05-24-21, 06:59
Yes I agree Markel was Obsessive, but I hope with the fast vaccination rate and low cases and death in June, she will not be able to justify her decisions to close the economy, I hope everything will open is Summer including FKK.Merkel perfectly knows what is important for the German economy and people: brothels, FKK, Doner Kebab. Are not. First of all mostly are not controlled by German people, even the employees are not German, and contrary that what some are writing here, they can get corona support but they need also to declare their real revenues in the previous years, but all those business have a lot of cash payment and always try to escape the taxes.
If the max number of people allowed inside is not reached yes you can stay 3 hours more for 50 euros.
There is another rule, they divided the club in two zones, a green one and a red one. If you want to see a girl in the other zone you have to ask the reception to let you change.
For the monitoring, there are only 15 guests allowed in each time slot so it must be rather easy for them to keep track of who's inside.Thank you, that is really helpful. However, even with just 15 guests, they have to keep an intrusive eye on their guests or even potentially badger them "hey, your 3 hours are up" which I imagine would be very irritating to most guys.
On the other hand, must be great for the girls. Johns will be looking to make the most of their 3 hours and will be in a rush to get their sessions in and not negotiate too hard.
Until conditions / service / prices /#girls revert to pre-Covid normal levels, it is totally futile for any fly in tourist. I will be a slow follower when it comes to this, I guess.
Merkel perfectly knows what is important for the German economy and people: brothels, FKK, Doner Kebab. Are not. First of all mostly are not controlled by German people, even the employees are not German, and contrary that what some are writing here, they can get corona support but they need also to declare their real revenues in the previous years, but all those business have a lot of cash payment and always try to escape the taxes.FKKs play a very important role in German society. They prevent thousands of German men from becoming rapists and perverts which in turn makes those men more productive and hence more profitable for the German economy.
FKKs play a very important role in German society. They prevent thousands of German men from becoming rapists and perverts which in turn makes those men more productive and hence more profitable for the German economy.A happy cow, is A productive cow.
HammerTime96
05-25-21, 16:50
There is another rule, they divided the club in two zones, a green one and a red one. If you want to see a girl in the other zone you have to ask the reception to let you change.
For the monitoring, there are only 15 guests allowed in each time slot so it must be rather easy for them to keep track of who's inside.Sounds like a lot of fun. / sarc.
Merkel perfectly knows what is important for the German economy and people: brothels, FKK, Doner Kebab. Are not. First of all mostly are not controlled by German people, even the employees are not German, and contrary that what some are writing here, they can get corona support but they need also to declare their real revenues in the previous years, but all those business have a lot of cash payment and always try to escape the taxes.Merkel has no clue, but her (and her party's even after she goes away) advantage is that the current bunch of German voters are even more clueless. Read this: https://www.dw.com/en/german-economy-hit-harder-than-expected-by-covid-crisis/a-57650920.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/german-coronavirus-incidence-hits-lowest-091525328.html
((The coronavirus infection rate in Germany has fallen below 50 per 100,000 people for the first time since October, data showed on Wednesday, and the health minister said the country can have a summer of peace from the virus if it keeps pushing it down.)).
((Health Minister Jens Spahn told NTV television: One goal is clear: as many vaccinations as possible, as few infections as possible, until the end of June, then it will be a really good summer)).
((After a slow start compared to Britain and the United States, Germany's vaccination rollout is picking up speed. About 40% of the population of around 83 million people have received at least one dose and about 14% are fully vaccinated.)).
So there is Hope this Summer for FKK.
Anyone as antsy as I am and who are curious about Austria clubs instead as they appear to be opening soon? Have been to a club in Graz about 5 years ago. It was a decent time.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/german-coronavirus-incidence-hits-lowest-091525328.html
((The coronavirus infection rate in Germany has fallen below 50 per 100,000 people for the first time since October, data showed on Wednesday, and the health minister said the country can have a summer of peace from the virus if it keeps pushing it down.)).
((Health Minister Jens Spahn told NTV television: One goal is clear: as many vaccinations as possible, as few infections as possible, until the end of June, then it will be a really good summer)).
((After a slow start compared to Britain and the United States, Germany's vaccination rollout is picking up speed. About 40% of the population of around 83 million people have received at least one dose and about 14% are fully vaccinated.)).
So there is Hope this Summer for FKK.
Anyone as antsy as I am and who are curious about Austria clubs instead as they appear to be opening soon? Have been to a club in Graz about 5 years ago. It was a decent time.You might find what you're looking for in the Austrian forums.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?621-Vienna&p=2562434&viewfull=1#post2562434
So there is Hope this Summer for FKK.I want to be wrong in my prediction, but I predict Merkel won't let Germany open. Read this: https://news.yahoo.com/health-minister-urges-caution-berlin-095926068.html.
I fully agree, but even IF Germans will vote differently, it will take many years to rebuild much of the nation and get Germany back to the economic foundation that FKK clubs are built upon.
Here (in German) are some videos from NDR German State TV highlighting the complete FUCK UP that Germany made of the Covid1984 situation. It's not just government bureaucracy, but also a total lack of customer service and local authorities that could not organize a binge drinking party in a brewery.
Local nonsense: https://youtu.be/L_z-YW5Io7g.
More local madness: https://youtu.be/ZOeGCVXAaHE.
Hamburger business owner going bankrupt, getting no financial assistance: https://youtu.be/V24C5mHPpuk.
Unable to get vaccinated + guy told on 17th Jan that he should have quarantined 3 weeks ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5tpI9BHEA0.
Unable to get an appointment for vaccination + chaotic Covid rules: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKxccdNYLNU.
Police detectives working from home (taking criminal investigation dossiers home! But not allowed to print out anything at home: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HRol45GUBI.
The list goes on and on and on. You really couldn't make this shit up, even if you tried. LOL!
And yet people think that Germany is the country of the Autobahn, high tech, and where everything is super-organised!
Expect this chaos to continue, and heaven forbid, if the Green Party wins in September, this will mean the end of Germany as we know it. They already are talking about "Klima-Lockdowns" in Germany: shutdowns for environmental reasons! This is NOT a joke, as the German Constitutional Court in Karlshuhe has ruled that:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/29/historic-german-ruling-says-climate-goals-not-tough-enough
It's a far swim across the Atlantic back to the USA for American FKK Lovers (fully vaccinated, no doubt, hahaha) who will suddenly find return flights cancelled and FKK clubs closed again because Germany locked down another time, this time to 'save the planet. ' The European radical left has tasted blood and lockdowns in combination with Covid-Ecological scaremongering are effective tools to implement their neo-Marxist world views through the backdoor.
https://www.die-gdi.de/en/the-current-column/article/from-covid-19-to-climate-action/The Greens also advocate for sex as a human right, and believe that persons on disability should have access to prostitutes at the State's expense. So the situation is a bit more nuanced than the doom and gloom Klima scenario.
HammerTime96
05-27-21, 08:50
The Greens also advocate for sex as a human right, and believe that persons on disability should have access to prostitutes at the State's expense. So the situation is a bit more nuanced than the doom and gloom Klima scenario.Show us examples of this. For example, how 'liberal' are the Greens and socialists in Sweden towards prostitution? Or the Fins? Or the Norwegians?
You make the typical American mistake to think that P6 is a political issue, while in reality it's probably more of a cultural thing. If anything, the left-green political parties are usually in favour of shutting everything down, or 'regulating' and taxing any business so heavily that they go bankrupt. See my example of Belgium below.
There might be some individual cases of 'socialists burning Other People's Money' (OPM) by subsidising a disabled person getting laid by a WG, but generally speaking P6 has been around in Europe for hundreds of years, long before the Green-Socialist agenda was invented by Marx & Co. (Hint: the Schipperskwartier in Antwerpen, or the famous RLD in Amsterdam, the Reeperbahn in Hamburg, etc).
The Greens and socialists have ruled Amsterdam for last few decades so YOU (with your limited life experience and world view) might think that they are responsible for P6, but reality is that they have been cracking down on P6 for years. Why would that be if they are so 'liberal' towards P6? Here are articles from 2008, 2019 and 2021.
https://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/24/world/europe/24amsterdam.html
https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/02/19/its-legal-to-sell-sex-in-amsterdam-but-dont-expect-the-same-rights-as-other-self-employed-workers-netherlands-legal-prostitution-sex-workers/
The famously permissive Dutch city is cracking down on prostitution, relocating sex workers, and discriminating against those employed in the industry.https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/01/amsterdam-to-move-sex-workers-out-of-city-centre-in-tourism-reset
In Amsterdam this is just the first step towards the Swedish model. The socialists got their votes from horny voters and 'progressives' in the past during the 1970's, 1980's and 1990's, but now the "me-too" and radical feminists are in control and dictate the agenda, and not just in the Green parties, but also in the CDU, SPD, FDP and VVD.
Look at all the Labour Party mayors of Amsterdam, and look at who is the current mayor of Amsterdam: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mayors_of_Amsterdam#Early_20 th_century.
Why do you think YingYang has been closed in Roermond? Or LR in Kaarst? Hint: radical feminist female mayors!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rianne_Donders-de_Leest
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaarst#Politics.
Here is another example: in the French speaking part of Belgium, the P.S. (Parti Socialiste) has been in power for decades, yet P6 is very limited and sparse: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_(Belgium)#Walloon_Parliament.
No big RLD or sex club with a good international reputation can be found in the Walloon region. Why is Belgium's biggest RLD located in the Dutch-Flemish speaking part of Belgium? Could it be because culturally speaking, the Flemish are much closer to the Dutch, and the Walloons much closer to the French? Why is GT in Brüggen full of French and Belgiums and even Luxemburgers?
Please save us your socialist propaganda, and stick to being the dumb uninformed American with his J&J jabs!
The Greens also advocate for sex as a human right, and believe that persons on disability should have access to prostitutes at the State's expense. So the situation is a bit more nuanced than the doom and gloom Klima scenario.
Everyone needs to respect the human right. But nowadays people, politicians are using this word for personal or political gains.
Disabled people shall have the right to have sex with whoever agree to have sex with them. Disabled people like anyone else should have access to prostitute in the country where prositution is legal. But this has always been the case, is it not.
Suggesting the right to have sex with prostitutes using the taxpayer's money, is abusing the privilege of human right.
Politicians such as politicians from Green party are using this for political advantage to win more vote from particular society society. Where are they when the Femisist ambushed the FKKs filming the FKK visitors shaming the visitors by put the picture in the news. Where are they ? Keep in mind FKK is legal in Germany.
Everything is now a human right, nowadays. Does someone cease to exist if they are denied access to prostitute.
Show us examples of this. For example, how 'liberal' are the Greens and socialists in Sweden towards prostitution? Or the Fins? Or the Norwegians?
You make the typical American mistake to think that P6 is a political issue, while in reality it's probably more of a cultural thing. If anything, the left-green political parties are usually in favour of shutting everything down, or 'regulating' and taxing any business so heavily that they go bankrupt. See my example of Belgium below.
There might be some individual cases of 'socialists burning Other People's Money' (OPM) by subsidising a disabled person getting laid by a WG, but generally speaking P6 has been around in Europe for hundreds of years, long before the Green-Socialist agenda was invented by Marx & Co. (Hint: the Schipperskwartier in Antwerpen, or the famous RLD in Amsterdam, the Reeperbahn in Hamburg, etc).
The Greens and socialists have ruled Amsterdam for last few decades so YOU (with your limited life experience and world view) might think that they are responsible for P6, but reality is that they have been cracking down on P6 for years. Why would that be if they are so 'liberal' towards P6? Here are articles from 2008, 2019 and 2021.
https://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/24/world/europe/24amsterdam.html
https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/02/19/its-legal-to-sell-sex-in-amsterdam-but-dont-expect-the-same-rights-as-other-self-employed-workers-netherlands-legal-prostitution-sex-workers/
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/01/amsterdam-to-move-sex-workers-out-of-city-centre-in-tourism-reset.Oh you don't know that Germany, Sweden, The Netherlands, Finland and Norway are different countries? I'm so sorry for you!
Everyone needs to respect the human right. But nowadays people, politicians are using this word for personal or political gains.
Disabled people shall have the right to have sex with whoever agree to have sex with them. Disabled people like anyone else should have access to prostitute in the country where prositution is legal. But this has always been the case, is it not.
Suggesting the right to have sex with prostitutes using the taxpayer's money, is abusing the privilege of human right.
Politicians such as politicians from Green party are using this for political advantage to win more vote from particular society society. Where are they when the Femisist ambushed the FKKs filming the FKK visitors shaming the visitors by put the picture in the news. Where are they ? Keep in mind FKK is legal in Germany.
Everything is now a human right, nowadays. Does someone cease to exist if they are denied access to prostitute.The German Green simply proposed some years ago that a prostitute visit should be claimed back as a medical expense for people with certain disabilities. Chill out!
Politicians such as politicians from Green party are using this for political advantage to win more vote from particular society society. Where are they when the Femisist ambushed the FKKs filming the FKK visitors shaming the visitors by put the picture in the news. Where are they ? Keep in mind FKK is legal in Germany.Did you expect that a Green candidate would stalk a group of feminists and, as soon as these started a protest in front of a FKK, he would then tackle them to the ground and have them arrested? If you want that type of society, I'd suggest you to move to North Korea.
Show us examples of this. For example, how 'liberal' are the Greens and socialists in Sweden towards prostitution? Or the Fins? Or the Norwegians?
You make the typical American mistake to think that P6 is a political issue, while in reality it's probably more of a cultural thing. If anything, the left-green political parties are usually in favour of shutting everything down, or 'regulating' and taxing any business so heavily that they go bankrupt. See my example of Belgium below.
There might be some individual cases of 'socialists burning Other People's Money' (OPM) by subsidising a disabled person getting laid by a WG, but generally speaking P6 has been around in Europe for hundreds of years, long before the Green-Socialist agenda was invented by Marx & Co. (Hint: the Schipperskwartier in Antwerpen, or the famous RLD in Amsterdam, the Reeperbahn in Hamburg, etc).
The Greens and socialists have ruled Amsterdam for last few decades so YOU (with your limited life experience and world view) might think that they are responsible for P6, but reality is that they have been cracking down on P6 for years. Why would that be if they are so 'liberal' towards P6? Here are articles from 2008, 2019 and 2021.
https://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/24/world/europe/24amsterdam.html
https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/02/19/its-legal-to-sell-sex-in-amsterdam-but-dont-expect-the-same-rights-as-other-self-employed-workers-netherlands-legal-prostitution-sex-workers/
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/01/amsterdam-to-move-sex-workers-out-of-city-centre-in-tourism-reset
In Amsterdam this is just the first step towards the Swedish model. The socialists got their votes from horny voters and 'progressives' in the past during the 1970's, 1980's and 1990's, but now the "me-too" and radical feminists are in control and dictate the agenda, and not just in the Green parties, but also in the CDU, SPD, FDP and VVD.
Look at all the Labour Party mayors of Amsterdam, and look at who is the current mayor of Amsterdam: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mayors_of_Amsterdam#Early_20 th_century.
Why do you think YingYang has been closed in Roermond? Or LR in Kaarst? Hint: radical feminist female mayors!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rianne_Donders-de_Leest
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaarst#Politics.
Here is another example: in the French speaking part of Belgium, the P.S. (Parti Socialiste) has been in power for decades, yet P6 is very limited and sparse: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_(Belgium)#Walloon_Parliament.
No big RLD or sex club with a good international reputation can be found in the Walloon region. Why is Belgium's biggest RLD located in the Dutch-Flemish speaking part of Belgium? Could it be because culturally speaking, the Flemish are much closer to the Dutch, and the Walloons much closer to the French? Why is GT in Brggen full of French and Belgiums and even Luxemburgers?
Please save us your socialist propaganda, and stick to being the dumb uninformed American with his J&J jabs!I might be "dumb" but at least I understand what "nuanced" means. Maybe you can google it. Yes, I make plenty of mistakes in life. There is no shame in making mistakes unless you fail to learn from them. And as for the hateful anti-American rhetoric, that just makes you look small my friend. We might have been late to the party, but we saved your sorry asses all the same. From both of my grandfathers who bled for you Euros, Cheers!
Sally speaks German but has Turkish roots, a Turkish passport. An elegant looking beautiful woman. With regards to your "noble knight phantasies": it is her business, she really don't need you to help her, she knows how to help herself!In Norway all the right wing parties are for legalizing it fully, even buying and not just selling (they even have it stated in the election program. But they had the same 4 years ago, and nothing happened even if they won the election. The greens are a left wing party and everything I can find relates to it is that the females of the green party are against legalizing it. The socialist party have always been handing out condoms to everyone, but both the socialists and the labor party on the left side are against prostitution. (because the voters cannot afford it?
So the divide is quite clear here. Yes and no on the political right-left axis.
But ideologically all the liberal parties should be for prostitution. Even the greens. But I suspect the greens have a lot of poor voters. And they cannot afford p6, or are afraid of their husband going to one. So they ditch the official liberal stance for selfish reasons.
I might be "dumb" but at least I understand what "nuanced" means. Maybe you can google it. Yes, I make plenty of mistakes in life. There is no shame in making mistakes unless you fail to learn from them. And as for the hateful anti-American rhetoric, that just makes you look small my friend. We might have been late to the party, but we saved your sorry asses all the same. From both of my grandfathers who bled for you Euros, Cheers!I don't think HammerTime is saying all Americans are "dumb"; he's just pointing out the "dumb" ones who support failed "socialist propaganda", that's all. I am an American, and I agree with him. Do you?
Did you expect that a Green candidate would stalk a group of feminists and, as soon as these started a protest in front of a FKK, he would then tackle them to the ground and have them arrested? If you want that type of society, I'd suggest you to move to North Korea.Sounds more like you're the one who should move to North Korea if you think it's alright to act as the crazy feminazis did. You're such a tool. The feminazis were the ones harassing a legal business and it's customers, not the other way around.
Some guys prefer companionship, some pay big money for this for hours, at LR. Some pay to sleep in room, or to drink and smoke, or to chat, to gossip, in couch or in room. Some prefer to massage girls rather than fucking. We are all different, we look for different services with girls.
As I always said to my past LR weekly regular: I don't pay for time out of room, she always answered: Do I ask you something for this? Liar but very honest about money, Romanian asking not to go with other girls after our fourth room, on our second day.
Some here I do not pay for the time outside the hours in the room, if I want to pay more I will normally take extra services for an extra fees. This is not because I could not effort to pay for it I just do not want to give a bad precedent for my other fellow mongers.
What a person do is his personal business, but keep in mind your action will affect other visitors and soon become an expectation. Tipping might be common in the country like in the US as the people like waitress are getting a very low wage and expect to top up their salaries with tips. But in Europe every worker even those who are doing menial jobs, get the same minimum wage.
Did you expect that a Green candidate would stalk a group of feminists and, as soon as these started a protest in front of a FKK, he would then tackle them to the ground and have them arrested? If you want that type of society, I'd suggest you to move to North Korea.
Sounds more like you're the one who should move to North Korea if you think it's alright to act as the crazy feminazis did. You're such a tool. The feminazis were the ones harassing a legal business and it's customers, not the other way around.
Is it the way the green or other politicians do their moves? Have you ever seen the smart politicians do in that way??
Anyone sensible will know that Politicians are smart people and will raise the issue in smarter ways to get a better impact with less efforts.
What they will normally do is to keep the issue to become afloat and become a public awareness, so more people will subscribe to their policy for their own or party advantage. They will get more political gain hoping people voting for them. They then try to push it to become a law.
Like ShooBree you are the one who should move to North Korea if you think it is ok to do like what Feminists have been doing to destroy the FKK business and demonising those who visited the FKKs. Also, it is not the duty of politicians to ambush the protesters, push them to the ground and arrest people. It is the police duty. Do that in any civilised nation, you are the person who will get arrested or get sued.
Again keep in mind FKK and visiting FKK is legal in Germany.
Is it the way the green or other politicians do their moves? Have you ever seen the smart politicians do in that way??
Anyone sensible will know that Politicians are smart people and will raise the issue in smarter ways to get a better impact with less efforts.
What they will normally do is to keep the issue to become afloat and become a public awareness, so more people will subscribe to their policy for their own or party advantage. They will get more political gain hoping people voting for them. They then try to push it to become a law.
Like ShooBree you are the one who should move to North Korea if you think it is ok to do like what Feminists have been doing to destroy the FKK business and demonising those who visited the FKKs. Also, it is not the duty of politicians to ambush the protesters, push them to the ground and arrest people. It is the police duty. Do that in any civilised nation, you are the person who will get arrested or get sued.
Again keep in mind FKK and visiting FKK is legal in Germany.Also firing people and closing a factory is permitted by law, but you would never think that it is not right for people to protest against these actions. I feel we have similar views on the legality of FKK, but we differ in what you ad I expect politicians to do when people protest.
ExpatLover
05-28-21, 11:02
But in Europe every worker even those who are doing menial jobs, get the same minimum wage.
If you want to hire a butcher, a cook, a electrician,. If you only pay minimum wages you will not get very skilled one. You will be surprised about the salaries of many manual jobs in places like France, Germany.
But ideologically all the liberal parties should be for prostitution. Even the greens. But I suspect the greens have a lot of poor voters. And they cannot afford p6, or are afraid of their husband going to one. So they ditch the official liberal stance for selfish reasons.I don't know / understand the politics of Europe; but in the US, prostitution legalization is not an issue that plays to either right or left base. As such, no one is for it. It is just a question of who is against it the more. Politicians are in the business of gaining power; it is a career, it is a business. If I were a politician I too would do and say things that will get me elected and keep me elected (just as I would do and say things to maximize my income in any other profession). Being pro-prostitution legalization is not a vote maximization stance for either the left or the right.
Prostitution is an unsavory business, face it. Even on this forum, few people want to know all the details of how 18 year old girls magically appear naked in front of them at a fuck club. It is like meat. Few want to see the blood and gore at the butcher shop but would enjoy that fine meal at the restaurant. Very few men even on this forum would want to see someone from their family or friends circle become a prostitute. They might tolerate them, but almost no one would encourage their near and loved ones to become prostitutes nor wishes that they would grow up to become successful prostitutes in life.
It will always remain a local issue. Why should it become a national issue? Perhaps as a blanket ban or removal of such ban, as a matter of constitution of that nation. Once that principle is settled, much like abortion, the availability of prostitution and zoning, permits, enforcement, extent of prosecution, LE looking the other way etc. Are all local issues. And personally, I haven't see much correlation between prostitution and local politics. In NV, it has been legal and that is a state which is generally down the center: sometimes goes left, sometimes right. Regardless of how the politics of that state have changed, it has remained legal. In states that have swung from one side of politics to the other in the course of 3 to 4 decades, I have not seen a change in the legal status of prostitution either.
People on this forum like to fight and claim their side (left or right) is more in favor of prostitution, but the reality is that these mongers are not representative of their party's stance on this issue. None of their party stalwarts will ever articulate an election campaign around the "winning issue of legalizing prostitution". It is a fringe issue for most of the society and a hot button issue for some small sub-sections on both far left and far right.
I don't think HammerTime is saying all Americans are "dumb"; he's just pointing out the "dumb" ones who support failed "socialist propaganda", that's all. I am an American, and I agree with him. Do you?I try to be a kind and tolerant person. Sometimes I might fall short, but I do aspire to be open minded and tolerant. But I am not WOKE by any stretch of the imagination. That philosophy is too negative and small-minded, something just shy of book-burning. A true liberal strives for progressive thought while also respecting the history and achievements of his forbears. American politics has become too nasty and strident. Best to be apolitical, make bank, and rack up those frequent flier points. Cheers to all.
But in Europe every worker even those who are doing menial jobs, get the same minimum wage.
If you want to hire a butcher, a cook, a electrician,. If you only pay minimum wages you will not get very skilled one. You will be surprised about the salaries of many manual jobs in places like France, Germany.Some manual jobs make more money than working in office on computer close to heater, but these jobs are much more difficult, risky, can be in the cold, under rain, under high heat, exhausting health. When I started to work, some manual workers earned more than me when I ordered them, even I started with around French couple average salary in 2000's. I couldn't achieve my job without them who are mostly foreigners and I won't be able to do their job, I'm just better than them for cleaning.
.... Best to be apolitical, make bank, and rack up those frequent flier points. Cheers to all.Being apolitical means allowing politicians to do whatever they want. Politicians control the taxes you pay. If all politicians had the interest of the people at heart then being apolitical would be okay.
I don't know / understand the politics of Europe; but in the US, prostitution legalization is not an issue that plays to either right or left base. As such, no one is for it. It is just a question of who is against it the more. I have visited USA a few times. The deepest parts. And my impression that it is still a generation or two behind Europe when it comes to giving the middle finger to religion. And the brainwashing that comes from religion is what makes prostitution illegal in USA.
Carpaccio18
05-31-21, 22:26
Have Sharks reopened? Look like that on the website.
Have Sharks reopened? Look like that on the website.Not yet, if you click on the Home on the website you can still see the closure notice. They will probably announce the reopening well in advance and the news would spread like wildfire here!
ExpatLover
06-01-21, 10:23
Not yet, if you click on the Home on the website you can still see the closure notice. They will probably announce the reopening well in advance and the news would spread like wildfire here!Yes probably they will open but with which LU, if it the same as in the last years, many thanks but it is not for me.
Yes probably they will open but with which LU, if it the same as in the last years, many thanks but it is not for me.There are enough reports of dozens of former sharks girls (literally dozens) still working privately in the area. Some of the higher tier Sharks girls are even still there. Guessing the club can open with 50+ girls easy.
Whether new girls arrive, who can say with any confidence?
There are enough reports of dozens of former sharks girls (literally dozens) still working privately in the area. Some of the higher tier Sharks girls are even still there. Guessing the club can open with 50+ girls easy.
Whether new girls arrive, who can say with any confidence?Girls returned to the Austrian clubs quite fast. So I doubt it is much of an issue. Only problem I read about was that a few girls had been lost to Dubai. Wonder how Dubai works these days with covid restrictions and if they have taken much of a hit there.
Girls returned to the Austrian clubs quite fast. So I doubt it is much of an issue. Only problem I read about was that a few girls had been lost to Dubai. Wonder how Dubai works these days with covid restrictions and if they have taken much of a hit there.Like Elen escorting in Dubai, but Asians hunting at Sharks.
ExpatLover
06-03-21, 19:15
Girls returned to the Austrian clubs quite fast. So I doubt it is much of an issue. Only problem I read about was that a few girls had been lost to Dubai. Wonder how Dubai works these days with covid restrictions and if they have taken much of a hit there.Girls working in Dubai, is definitely a no go for me. I remember a first appointment with a escort in Frankfurt, as always it had take place in the bar from the hotel and already agreed if I am not ok I just will pay her the taxi. The girl arrived and told me that she prefers to work in Dubai, I told her that I don t go with girl working in Dubai and that I will pay her the taxi, she started to be aggressive and I told her there is no problem we will call the police and that I have a copy of the the mails. Of course it is an issue because there will be only the veteran girls around.
Girls working in Dubai, is definitely a no go for me. I remember a first appointment with a escort in Frankfurt, as always it had take place in the bar from the hotel and already agreed if I am not ok I just will pay her the taxi. The girl arrived and told me that she prefers to work in Dubai, I told her that I don t go with girl working in Dubai and that I will pay her the taxi, she started to be aggressive and I told her there is no problem we will call the police and that I have a copy of the the mails. Of course it is an issue because there will be only the veteran girls around.That's a weird rule not going with a girl that worked in Dubai hahaha.
Girls working in Dubai, is definitely a no go for me. I remember a first appointment with a escort in Frankfurt, as always it had take place in the bar from the hotel and already agreed if I am not ok I just will pay her the taxi. The girl arrived and told me that she prefers to work in Dubai, I told her that I don t go with girl working in Dubai and that I will pay her the taxi, she started to be aggressive and I told her there is no problem we will call the police and that I have a copy of the the mails. Of course it is an issue because there will be only the veteran girls around.The most important thing is always to believe what the hookers tell. How are the guys called who are screaming for the police, 38 ers or 81 ers?
Girls working in Dubai, is definitely a no go for me. I remember a first appointment with a escort in Frankfurt, as always it had take place in the bar from the hotel and already agreed if I am not ok I just will pay her the taxi. The girl arrived and told me that she prefers to work in Dubai, I told her that I don t go with girl working in Dubai and that I will pay her the taxi, she started to be aggressive and I told her there is no problem we will call the police and that I have a copy of the the mails. Of course it is an issue because there will be only the veteran girls around.Why calling polizei? You just don t go and don t pay, why do You need to call police? Same like guys who go to cry on desk at Bruggen, when they should better look in mirror. Even being paid, but some girls are not able to accept everything, like kissing bad breathe ugly.
HammerTime96
06-04-21, 21:36
Girls working in Dubai, is definitely a no go for me. I remember a first appointment with a escort in Frankfurt, as always it had take place in the bar from the hotel and already agreed if I am not ok I just will pay her the taxi. The girl arrived and told me that she prefers to work in Dubai, I told her that I don t go with girl working in Dubai and that I will pay her the taxi, she started to be aggressive and I told her there is no problem we will call the police and that I have a copy of the the mails. Of course it is an issue because there will be only the veteran girls around.I think Helen (RO) told me a couple of years ago that she tried or was thinking about trying Dubai.
Anyway, P6 is borderless, so why you would refuse a girl that has worked in Dubai is beyond me. Is Qatar okay for you? The US? The UK? Italy? China? Singapore?
Sounds as if you had a bad experience in Dubai, but veterans, up-sellers and gold-diggers can be found everywhere.
Totally agree. Every girl could have worked in Dubai. (even so if they say "no" So then this rules out every girl. Duh.
That's a weird rule not going with a girl that worked in Dubai hahaha.
ExpatLover
06-05-21, 04:16
I think Helen (RO) told me a couple of years ago that she tried or was thinking about trying Dubai.
Anyway, P6 is borderless, so why you would refuse a girl that has worked in Dubai is beyond me. Is Qatar okay for you? The US? The UK? Italy? China? Singapore?
Sounds as if you had a bad experience in Dubai, but veterans, up-sellers and gold-diggers can be found everywhere.I am looking for fresh, and natural beauties, each time I met escorts or FKK girls who travelled a lot there were all far too pro for me. I know quite well China, I don't recommend to monger in China if you are used to the habits there, it can become very expensive.
ExpatLover
06-05-21, 04:18
Why calling polizei? You just don t go and don t pay, why do You need to call police? Same like guys who go to cry on desk at Bruggen, when they should better look in mirror. Even being paid, but some girls are not able to accept everything, like kissing bad breathe ugly.The girl was very aggressive, to make her calm down I treated her to call the police, after I gave her 20 euro for the taxi and told the reception not to let her go to my room.
ExpatLover
06-05-21, 04:25
The most important thing is always to believe what the hookers tell. How are the guys called who are screaming for the police, 38 ers or 81 ers?Sorry in Germany you are doing nothing illegal when you book a escort, we already agreed before that if I am not ok with her we will not go to the room and I will pay her the taxi. That was the contract. I am 60+ never had any problem with any police officer in my life, I respect them and they are here to help me in case of troubles, I will not fight with a hooker who is not willing to follow our agreement specially when she starts to become loud and aggressive it is the job of the police.
ExpatLover
06-05-21, 04:30
That's a weird rule not going with a girl that worked in Dubai hahaha.I am the customer I can decide the rules I want, and the girl can refuse to meet me. So many girls refuse to meet in the lobby or to accept just to get the money for the taxi if we don t go to the room, but the girls who accept are the most pretty one, and even the best escort will not go to the room before meeting you in the lobby or getting pictures from you. They are not desperate, they can choose their customer, so do I with the girls.
I think Helen (RO) told me a couple of years ago that she tried or was thinking about trying Dubai.
Anyway, P6 is borderless, so why you would refuse a girl that has worked in Dubai is beyond me. Is Qatar okay for you? The US? The UK? Italy? China? Singapore?
Sounds as if you had a bad experience in Dubai, but veterans, up-sellers and gold-diggers can be found everywhere.Evita claimed to come from UK escorting when she started at Sharks on January 2015. Same like Elen for Asian hunting.
The girl was very aggressive, to make her calm down I treated her to call the police, after I gave her 20 euro for the taxi and told the reception not to let her go to my room.So you asked your hotel desk not to let a prostitute following you? And wanted also to call polizei? You were so afraid of a real dragon? You should stop this business if you are so afraid of girls, like you seem about diseases. Risky business, but easier to win than in casino, when you are able to make the job to get what you enjoy.
HammerTime96
06-05-21, 09:50
I am looking for fresh, and natural beauties, each time I met escorts or FKK girls who travelled a lot there were all far too pro for me.The irony is that you post this in the FKK thread, and even the Sharks thread, which is one of the biggest fuck factories in FKK-land. LOL!
IMHO you'll never find a "fresh" girl in the P4 Sex business, unless your definition of "fresh" is "young, dumb, and naive."
I totally disagree with Sirioja's point about:
"Same like guys who go to cry on desk at Bruggen, when they should better look in mirror. Even being paid, but some girls are not able to accept everything, like kissing bad breathe ugly." A girl can know all these variables before agreeing to go to a room with a guy, and I respect your decision to complain and refusing to pay for a refusal of service, although calling the police is perhaps a bit drastic IMHO. Too many idiots accept all up-selling and rip-off tactics from a WG and will pay regardless of how lousy the service was, but then again, these same spineless idiots are probably now lining up for "vaccines" and "vaccine passports."
The irony is that you post this in the FKK thread, and even the Sharks thread, which is one of the biggest fuck factories in FKK-land. LOL!
IMHO you'll never find a "fresh" girl in the P4 Sex business.............I have mongered all over the world and my experience is that in FKK you can get hot stunners but not fresh girls. Those hot beauties have been around if you know what I mean. The best place for fresh girls is South East Asia where you can even get legal age virgins but you will have to pay more for them. Although it is rare it is still possible to get fresh girls in Latin America. I am yet to get a fresh girl in FKK; young yes, but have been quite sexually active.
ExpatLover
06-05-21, 16:16
The irony is that you post this in the FKK thread, and even the Sharks thread, which is one of the biggest fuck factories in FKK-land. LOL!
IMHO you'll never find a "fresh" girl in the P4 Sex business, unless your definition of "fresh" is "young, dumb, and naive."
I totally disagree with Sirioja's point about:
A girl can know all these variables before agreeing to go to a room with a guy, and I respect your decision to complain and refusing to pay for a refusal of service, although calling the police is perhaps a bit drastic IMHO. Too many idiots accept all up-selling and rip-off tactics from a WG and will pay regardless of how lousy the service was, but then again, these same spineless idiots are probably now lining up for "vaccines" and "vaccine passports."For sure I must be one of those idiot, just because I never negotiate something before going to the room, I don t care about service I only care about beauty which can not be fake, all the rest is cheating, fake. I don t understand the link with the vaccine but I don t believe in their efficiency and I will do it if not having it will but my daily life in trouble.
ExpatLover
06-05-21, 16:21
So you asked your hotel desk not to let a prostitute following you? And wanted also to call polizei? You were so afraid of a real dragon? You should stop this business if you are so afraid of girls, like you seem about diseases. Risky business, but easier to win than in casino, when you are able to make the job to get what you enjoy.I am not afraid at all, but I hate to argue with aggressive people specially with a girl who only skill is to open wide her different holes. I always go to this 5 stars hotel in Frankfurt and the receptionist was very happy to ask the guy from the security to make her leave the place. Each time when I meet again the 2 guys we are laughing about that. I don't agree it is not risky at all, it is legal in Germany.
I am not afraid at all, but I hate to argue with aggressive people specially with a girl who only skill is to open wide her different holes. I always go to this 5 stars hotel in Frankfurt and the receptionist was very happy to ask the guy from the security to make her leave the place. Each time when I meet again the 2 guys we are laughing about that. I don't agree it is not risky at all, it is legal in Germany.Refusing a girl because she worked in Dubai, is like refusing a girl because she is wearing something red, and you don't like red lololo.
ExpatLover
06-05-21, 18:34
Refusing a girl because she worked in Dubai, is like refusing a girl because she is wearing something red, and you don't like red lololo.Sorry I am the customer, I am paying and it was already agreed before, she never told me she worked in Dubai or I had refused to meet her. Why should I do things I don't like during by free time.
BigBuddy69
06-06-21, 21:11
Refusing a girl because she worked in Dubai, is like refusing a girl because she is wearing something red, and you don't like red lololo.That's very rude and disrespectful to make a woman come to your hotel and to refuse her for such a futile motive, especially if you didn't ask her before.
What's the latest? Is Sharks open? My balls are blue and going to bust!
Funman13.
What's the latest? Is Sharks open?
Funman13.No, that will take a little longer. Sharks is in Hessen. The current legislation in Hessen won't allow them to open no matter how low the corona numbers drop.
We have to wait for the parliament to change that or for the clubs to successfully sue against it.
Last year Hessen was one of only two (out of 16) Germany country's that kept the clubs closed the entire year.
What's the latest? Is Sharks open? My balls are blue and going to bust!
Funman13.Darmstadt kreis is in their 4th day with an incidence of under 35 cases /100,000 and they need 7 consecutive days before they can be allowed to re-open. If they are still forbidden to re-open after the 7-day goal, then I would expect a storm of lawsuits forcing authorities to give the permission to reopen. This has already happened in lower Saxony (I think), where the judges have just allowed reopening with an even higher incidence than Darmstadt. I don't want to be overly optimistic, but in 3-4 weeks we may see a radically different situation.
No, that will take a little longer. Sharks is in Hessen. The current legislation in Hessen won't allow them to open no matter how low the corona numbers drop.
We have to wait for the parliament to change that or for the clubs to successfully sue against it.
Last year Hessen was one of only two (out of 16) Germany country's that kept the clubs closed the entire year.On end of September after elections?
Sigh, according to the State Department, US citizens still cannot enter Germany. However, we are allowed to enter Spain. I guess "Barcelona here I come!
Funman13.
Sigh, according to the State Department, US citizens still cannot enter Germany. However, we are allowed to enter Spain. I guess "Barcelona here I come!
Funman13.UK and India are under 15 days quarantine in Germany and France, but I didn't hear about US who can enter with negative test. Even European but I also need negative test to go to my beloved Italy, or to Spain, Germany, NL, Austria, maybe also for Switzerland. I don t know if US forbid their citizens to travel abroad, but they are not forbidden in EU.
ExpatLover
06-13-21, 20:43
UK and India are under 15 days quarantine in Germany and France, but I didn't hear about US who can enter with negative test. Even European but I also need negative test to go to my beloved Italy, or to Spain, Germany, NL, Austria, maybe also for Switzerland. I don t know if US forbid their citizens to travel abroad, but they are not forbidden in EU.Who will control you? I am travelling through Europe every week by car and was never controlled at any boarder. I have done my first test this week just to visit a relative in the hospital but even there nobody asked me something.
Who will control you? I am travelling through Europe every week by car and was never controlled at any boarder. I have done my first test this week just to visit a relative in the hospital but even there nobody asked me something.Samya seem to control.
SomeMongerer
06-17-21, 16:14
Who will control you? I am travelling through Europe every week by car and was never controlled at any boarder. I have done my first test this week just to visit a relative in the hospital but even there nobody asked me something.Do you think US citizen now can enter Spain then travel to Germany through air / land without test / quarantine? Thanks.
ExpatLover
06-18-21, 05:46
Do you think US citizen now can enter Spain then travel to Germany through air / land without test / quarantine? Thanks.By car for sure just because you can take another border in case of problems. Concerning the plane I think there is no problem too but you never know now it seems that the Indian variant is increasing every where in Europe and could be a new point of concern.
Do you think US citizen now can enter Spain then travel to Germany through air / land without test / quarantine? Thanks.If you read the German entry requirements it's all about where you've been in the last 10 days there is nothing I can see about a certain nationality being banned.
Every German club that has reopened so far says you need a negative test for entry in the last 24 hours or being full vaccinated. In the case of the later it isn't clear to me what proof they will accept.
If you read the German entry requirements it's all about where you've been in the last 10 days there is nothing I can see about a certain nationality being banned.
Every German club that has reopened so far says you need a negative test for entry in the last 24 hours or being full vaccinated. In the case of the later it isn't clear to me what proof they will accept.
Every region (Bundesland) has its own rules, until now only clubs in NRW did re-open under the condition that visitors and girls are either Tested (PCR or antigen), Cured (also proof required) and vaccinated (once by Janssen or twice for the other, using digital app, paper vaccin registration or "classic" WHO-approved yellow vaccin booklet as proof).
Per Kreis / area the 7-day incident rate has to be below 35/100 K to be able to re-open anyway.
Now also Ba-Wu starts to re-open (e. G. Sakura next Wednesday), Hessen and other regions (Bundeslnders) will be later, as always.
Mrknowitall
06-18-21, 18:37
Do you think US citizen now can enter Spain then travel to Germany through air / land without test / quarantine? Thanks.Yes, but it is a long drive, better to take long train. Then you can drink beer and have a sleep.
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