Locations of BJ Cafes, Hot Toc's, Blow 'and' Go's.

[LuvAsianTang]

Hi Guys,

Sorry to ask but what street name is NPK exactly? Full written name?

ThanksAt the top of the page you see abbreviations? Clic it and scroll to regional abbreviations, almost to the bottom of the page.

You'll find what you need there.

Happy hunting, LAT

[AmericanThief]

Report: December 28, 2013.

After doing some research and translating as best google can, I decided to go to a local place as reported by Vietnamese journalists. It was reported there was a row, a group, an alley full, of barbershops at DBL & N Xi in BT district.

So I headed out at 1pm and drove around, and around in all the side streets, alleys, parallel and perpendicular and I couldn't find a single "Hot Toc" that provided service. So after an hour and a half I gave up and headed down DBP, but I wan't going to the popular place that everyone goes to. I decided to try Kanh Linh. Upstairs was dark, very dark and uncomfortable. I couldn't see the chair or the girl. There service was terrible. Again it was a handjob with the tip of my dick in her mouth, and after a while and some ridiculous jerking I half heartedly came, and the girl quickly threw a napkin over my dick to make sure none got in her mouth or on her body. By far the worst service I've had in Vietnam. Oh, I also had to pay 300, 000.

So I don't care if you fools rush out to this place and over pay and drive the market prices up and ruin it for all the rest of us locals. I'm never going back there. I'm sticking to what I know and to hell with saving 100, 000. I'm paying extra to stay near my home.

Because as I was driving around I saw 3 accidents. The traffic was sketchy. Big trucks and busses driving very aggressively with no care for motorbikes. I saw one bike hit an old lady on a bicycle, one hit a pedestrian, and the last was a bus running over a guy.

Yes, this guy turn left into traffic without looking right as they all do, but this time it was a bus and with all its inertia, it couldn't stop in time. The man did a kung-fu leg spin reverse off his bike in time for him to avoid death and to watch his honda get crushed. It made this loud crunch sound as the parts were compromised between the pavement and bus.

So I'm a bit angry and have resentments, and if you want to go to Kanh Linh be my guest. It's 200 meters down from the famous B place.

And if anyone can PM me a better place, please. I can't go aimless wandering around anymore.

[Meo Den]

Went to NPK today because it was rush hour and didn't want to travel far. I got a HJ with my dick in a girls mouth.Tuan Thanh is closed. Many of the staff have moved across to Tuan Tam and they told me the price (total) has gone up to 300kvnd.

They are still charging me 250k at Phu Gia, but one girl did ask for extra.

There's a newer (?) place near the Vo Thi Sau end, poor selection, similar to Quynh Anh, mama demanding 400k.

Mostly it's a HJ with your dick in the girl's mouth as described above, although I was luckier with girls I knew from before.

Advertised on the internet prices go up service and attitudes go down.

[MrTran]

After visiting family and getting to HCMC late yesterday, I decided to go for a R&T at Flamingo Spa based on a report earlier.

380k ticket and 300k for the HJ. If you're after a legit massage, go here. I had intended for that but girl was cute so went for a HJ.

13B Le Thanh Ton Street, District 1, Ho Chi Minh City is the address.

[MutantChicken]

After visiting family and getting to HCMC late yesterday, I decided to go for a R&T at Flamingo Spa based on a report earlier.

380k ticket and 300k for the HJ. If you're after a legit massage, go here. I had intended for that but girl was cute so went for a HJ.

13B Le Thanh Ton Street, District 1, Ho Chi Minh City is the address.Very expensive for a HJ. 700k should be enought to get a hour with a hot girl. A HJ should be round 400k max for hot ones.

[MrTran]

Went to Benny's at 12PM yesterday.

Took a taxi from my hotel A&them on 280 Le Than Ton St, cost me 120K.

Prices have gone up, ticket price was 150k on the pricelist.

Paid it, went up 3 flights of stairs or so. Went to back corner room, she had a nice rack and average BJ skills but no CIM.

Would come again if I was wound for longer.

Tipped 230K

Exact address is 110 Dien Bien Phu, PH17, Binh Thanh District. Ensure that you mentiokn P17, otherwise drivers may now know where it is due to 2 110's in that district (based on what my driver told me).

Cheers

[Eddie Munster]

Went to Benny's at 12PM yesterday.

Took a taxi from my hotel A&them on 280 Le Than Ton St, cost me 120K.

Prices have gone up, ticket price was 150k on the pricelist.

Paid it, went up 3 flights of stairs or so. Went to back corner room, she had a nice rack and average BJ skills but no CIM.

Would come again if I was wound for longer.

Tipped 230K.

Exact address is 110 Dien Bien Phu, PH17, Binh Thanh District. Ensure that you mentiokn P17, otherwise drivers may now know where it is due to 2 110's in that district (based on what my driver told me).

CheersWent there today. There seemed to be 3 girls there. Mine was cute and short, with a decent ass and tits. The setup of laying on the thing they put you on is a little weird, especially when you're right next to another dude (albeit through a screen). But the BBBJCIM was pretty great. Even though it is pricier than before, it is still a better deal than the BJ bars in BKK.

I'll probably be back a few more times before I leave next week.

[TomSf]

Went there today. There seemed to be 3 girls there. Mine was cute and short, with a decent ass and tits. The setup of laying on the thing they put you on is a little weird, especially when you're right next to another dude (albeit through a screen). But the BBBJCIM was pretty great. Even though it is pricier than before, it is still a better deal than the BJ bars in BKK.

I'll probably be back a few more times before I leave next week.Hey Eddie,

When you say you are separated by a screen. Is the screen on all 4 sides? Or is the screen just covering your left and right side with an open front? In Thailand I have been in bars where guys would be getting a BBBJ in plain site. Of course these things would happen when there are very few people in the bar. I don't thing it would happen if it was crowded.

[JiuWan]

Hey Eddie,

When you say you are separated by a screen. Is the screen on all 4 sides? Or is the screen just covering your left and right side with an open front? In Thailand I have been in bars where guys would be getting a BBBJ in plain site. Of course these things would happen when there are very few people in the bar. I don't thing it would happen if it was crowded.The screens covers your left and right with an open front. There are many stalls so customers are usually separated.

[AmericanThief]

Went back to NPK today. Tried a different place, just took a shot. Same deal, ugly girls sitting around playing Candy Crush on their phones. Upstairs to a room, curtains only separating 3 tables. I'm the only customer in the room though.

She complained that I was too big. He mouth / jaw was tired and it hurt. Furious hand job with my dick head in her mouth. Silly whining noises from her. Someone came into the room, she checked up and continued. This went on forever.

Ticket after was 200, 000 and tip up to me, but they pestered me for the usual amount. My stupid ever present American optimism that I'm going to find that "one," which I have on occasion, but eventually they quit and go back home, and so on and so forth.

Haven't found one in a long time. The one that does it right.

[Viet Lover]

After finding the exact adress tried to find bennys on 90 dien bien phu at around 10pm. Crossed the bridge over the river but found nothing there.

Told my driver to find another place around 200-300k for a BJ. He had no clue at all. Overall extremely frustrating and wasted 230k just on the taxi. I really wished I had found one of these superbushy local viet girls.Though I have never entered, I have seen the spot. I believe the correct address is 110 DBP. I believe there is a white sign with "Bennys" lettered in purple.

[JackBauerNice]

After finding the exact adress tried to find bennys on 90 dien bien phu at around 10pm. Crossed the bridge over the river but found nothing there.

Told my driver to find another place around 200-300k for a BJ. He had no clue at all. Overall extremely frustrating and wasted 230k just on the taxi. I really wished I had found one of these superbushy local viet girls. (You come from dist 1 to Dien Bien Phu? Should be 110 dbp. Anyway 10pm too late already, their opening hours around 9-10pm. Best to go early noon.

[Alleno151]

Most guys have heard about cafe om, but most haven't tried so I'll do my best to give a good FR of the one I went to today, this one has a aircon room. 3 partitions two with a massage table the other a mattress on the floor, normally has 4-5 girls. 2 are fatties, the other slim mid 20's, the last is a solid 7 19yrs old. Guess who my girl is. This is my 3rd time with her she is very sexually and lives having her pussy eaten. First time was just your standard BBBJ, the second BBBJ cim and I was sneaky brought a condom and convinced her to fuck, though I did all the work in missionary and scissors, this time today she rode me cowboy and reverse cowboy before finishing me by mouth. The normal cost is 120k for a 20-30min session, that's what I paid 1st time, second time with the fucking I paid 200k.

Today even though she wants initially keen to fuck but whilst I was gettinga BJ I fingered her till she got so excited and tried to mount me, lucky I came prepared so with a few second delay, today I had to ask for two session so even with her tip it just cost 300k for a 1hr session, with a BBBJ, me eating her pussy and making her cum, she then riding me and a another BBBJ CIM finish.

Great value and sexciting hour all for 15usd. Only in Vietnam. This is compard to the one position no BJ dry fucking in did in Phnom Penh also for 15usd.[Deleted by Admin]

For everyone else, check 252A Ly Thai To, long time / old time HT / BnG, high cost 500K compared to Benny's, girls about the same but perhaps closer for many and something different.

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[Niouts]

Hi members of this thread,

I'm not new to Vietnam, and certainly not new to mongering. But considering how fast the mongering landscape changes in hcmc, its hard for me to keep track of information.

I'll be in HCMC 23. 26 May, alone.

Would appreciate any help on the following:

BJ cafe.

Blow and go.

If you could just offer me street names, I could go look for specific places. Tried asking mutant chicken but was quoted 25per hr.

Your help is much appreciated.

Thanks all.My experience last week:

-Tach Thi Than: 4 BJ massages in the street (to be verified), I've tried 2 of them, 200 VND + Tip 200 VND and 300 VND + 200 VND tip.

-Hai Ba Trung in front of the Le Van Tam park at night some street workers, +-6, quite old but 1 or 2 ok, 500 VND + short time hotel 100 VND.

[HugFrancis]

I have just arrived in HCMC. First time in VN, first time in Asia! - but my brother who was supposed to meet me here had to return to UK. So I know nobody.

Is there anyone who for a fee would 'show me the ropes'? As well as the obvious I'm interested in the historical POIs. Knowledge of the French background would be especially interesting (but I think I am pushing my luck now).

Please PM me if you can help, or suggest someone who might be interested.

[Mik Hcmc]

I'm deleting any posts that don't have a address for a hot toc / blow and go or even MP and FSMP.

I can't believe how bad this thread turned out. So much bickering over 1 poster who we all know won't share without something in it for himself.

There are plenty of other places to discover.

[Traveler1234]

I can't believe how bad this thread turned out. So much bickering over 1 poster who we all know won't share without something in it for himself.Why not put him to rest?

[Wendella]

First thing that must be said: "It's not great here now." The HBT hostess-for-hire bars got clamped down on last year and have not recovered. There are 2 of them that are still semi-worth a look now: Bin Bin at 13 Le Thanh Ton (I think that's the address) and another little one on on Nguyen Sieu street off of HBT, next to a restaurant (its a very short street, can't miss it). The rest of them are not really worth even poking your head in. There's Apocalypse Now on Thi sach near there, freelancers, not cheap. The discos and nightclubs are tough nuts to crack as a tourist. Also expensive nuts to crack. The backpacker area has a bunch of bars with over-priced mediocre looking ones, Do Quang Dau street has a few of them, and around the corner on De Tham has more. Hate to even mention these places because I doubt you'll find something decent there. I hear they're asking silly prices now in these backpacker places.

What some say are the best spots by far would be the massage places up near the airport. If you PM enough guys you will get those exact addresses for free. (if you PM the wrong guy, you will get a price quote of $100 or so for the same info) Ba Vi street has a couple of them (VIP and 4 Seasons). Hau Giang has at least one more (New Moon). If you find those streets, you should find the places. The streets are on Google Maps, they're in Tan Binh district. And one note, I haven't been up there in a couple months, so it's possible those places moved. (Can anyone confirm, or have current info?) There are also some side streets in Phu My Hung near Sky Garden that have more of these places at a slightly higher price. They're mostly in the back away from the main street Nguyen Van Linh. A bunch of them were closed recently, but there are still a few in there.

There's a hostess bar called VIC that is on one of the side streets off of Cach Mang Thang 8 street, it's either Ho Xuan Huong or else Ngo Thoi Nhiem. The girls are expensive to take out (price always changing, and I haven't been there in a long time), and you have to be really wary of bill-padding, but they usually have a decent selection.

There's a few spots around town with BJ massage / hot toc, Nguyen Phi Khanh in the north of D1 was a street that has at least one. (Address, guys? This isn't a place I go to. 84?) There's plenty of info about Benny's on Dien Bien Phu in Binh Thanh district. There are also MANY around town that do only HJ. In that case they often will cuddle with you on your little bed, some groping allowed, so it's not as bad as it sounds.

But honestly, if pickups are your goal, this place is a mistake if you can go to Thailand instead. Even Cambodia is better now. (and it's much worse there than it was in the early 2000's, but Vietnam / HCMC is a LOT worse than it used to be, it passed Phnom Penh on the way down).

[Alleno151]

My experience last week:

-Tach Thi Than: 4 BJ massages in the street (to be verified), I've tried 2 of them, 200 VND + Tip 200 VND and 300 VND + 200 VND tip.

-Hai Ba Trung in front of the Le Van Tam park at night some street workers, +-6, quite old but 1 or 2 ok, 500 VND + short time hotel 100 VND.Can you provide the full address for Tach Thi Than? Or at least landmarks or something?

[CaseyStar]

Does anyone have any experience with any of the 'private' workers who advertise in CL? Eg: Rose?

I'm interested in getting a private girl to my room this week, but wary of rip offs and poor quality. Any experience welcome, and any particular recommendations also very welcome. On here or via PM.

Thanks all.

[HugFrancis]

does anyone have any experience with any of the 'private' workers who advertise in cl? eg: rose?

i'm interested in getting a private girl to my room this week, but wary of rip offs and poor quality. any experience welcome, and any particular recommendations also very welcome. on here or via pm.

thanks alli met rose last week. she is mad as a hatter (large glasses that stayed on until quite late in the procedures) and a loudish squawk in lieu of intelligible speech. however, she did give me a good natural oral, and then protected 'boum boum' (should that be double o's? the trick is not to let her manner cause droop. she quietens and looks away as the deed reaches fruition.

so overall, can recommend. not like the disastrous punt tonight with someone different (total robot, no warmth or recognition that there was a sentient human next to her).

i met the guy who has been blackballed by this forum. his knowledge of this town is formidable, capably described (he's a lawyer so good with words). i have no problem paying for a person's knowledge and experience. it's called the knowledge economy (duh). unfortunately he's out of the country for a month. so i'm playing blind and wasting money.

if you find a good one, please let me know.

[Traveler1234]

I met Rose last week.
I met the guy who has been blackballed by this forum. The guy's been reincarnated as HF.

[Whisper1]

Can you provide the full address for Tach Thi Than? Or at least landmarks or something?The street name is Thạch Thị Thanh, Q. 1. You can google map it.

[Gajith]

The street name is Thạch Thị Thanh, Q. 1. You can google map it.Hold the phone firmly when you googling.

[Ppfrequentv]

I remember having seen a post (few years ago) where one of the members here had some maps of HCMC where the hot toc areas were marked on these maps.

Now I'm about to go to HCMC and can't find those maps in this thread.

I have also looked in reports of distinction but also no luck there. Anyone?

[Wendella]

I met the guy who has been blackballed by this forum. His knowledge of this town is formidable, capably described (he's a lawyer so good with words). I have no problem paying for a person's knowledge and experience. It's called the Knowledge Economy (duh). Unfortunately he's out of the country for a month. So I'm playing blind and wasting money.The guy does seem to have a lot of knowledge, you are right about that. He hasn't been blackballed though. The moderator of this thread doesn't have the power to ban members (if that is what you mean), so as far as I know his account is still active. What irks a lot of long time members is that he only shares info for payment. He posts reports here as if he's a normal member sharing info, in order to lure mainly new members to send hm a PM where the sales pitch begins. The expectation of this site is that members will share info for free, that's its purpose, so if someone pays for a subscription just to find out that they then have to pay a lot more for info from this guy (typical reaction is WTF), that's not cool. He's pretending to be one of us normal members sharing info in order to trick newbies into sending him PM's and starting his sales pitch. Forum rules are that there's no advertising in the non-advertising threads, but that's what he's really doing. His FR's are effectively ads. And they have been leading to non-stop bickering in this VN section for a very long time now. What's more he's pretty damn rude in PM's, which clearly violates forum rules.

By the way, I drove past that VIC bar that I mentioned in a recent post. It's at 55 Ho Xuan Huong, just off of CMT8.

[Wendella]

I met the guy who has been blackballed by this forum. His knowledge of this town is formidable, capably described (he's a lawyer so good with words). I have no problem paying for a person's knowledge and experience. It's called the Knowledge Economy (duh). Sorry, couldn't let this go. He's a lawyer? Did he tell you that? Hoo boy. This is getting stranger and stranger.

I noticed T1234's post saying that you were him, which I have to say, I'm not sure he's wrong on that. Your last line sounds very much like his standard condescending tone. You should start your own forum called the Knowedge Economy where people pay to sign up in order to then buy more knowledge from enterprising members. See how that goes.

[Mik Hcmc]

sorry, couldn't let this go. he's a lawyer? did he tell you that? hoo boy. this is getting stranger and stranger.
when i first met him a number of yrs ago, it was with another member whom shall remain annon due to him not posting anything in the past few yrs.

he told me he was a day trader, only lived in saigon because he had access to a house, something he didn't have back in oz. he also took us to the barbershops in tan binh, the addresses he got off the ******** forum, also it was interesting to note, he had never been to these places, so it was like a reccon mission with a couple others. he took us to rose (now closed for a couple yrs) and then to tulip (also closed).

i personally don't have anything against him, i've said it before and i'll say it again, sure he has knowledge but its not exactly a big secret now. nothing stopping members from meeting up and going for a ride around, having a look. its how i found places before i knew of this forum, and its still how i find places.

i'm sure we all know what a blow and go looks like, there are thousands of these shops rep001tered around the districts. the constant bickering by some members who expect full addresses without offering anything in return kinda defeats the purpose of a open discussion forum, so due to these members this thread has evolved into what it has become. i along with others are also guilty in some way, not giving out addresses for the barbershops (but have through pm) for fear of le closing these places down, which has turned out not to be the case.

yes there was a big crackdown in tb district, most shops have closed or relocated on the side exiting the airport, however on the road entering the airport (right side when airport is infront of you) there are still a couple shops operating and have been for a couple of yrs.

what are the names and addresses of these shops? get off your ass, jump on a scooter and ride around and take a look. they are not hard to find.

[Wendella]

Yes there was a big crackdown in TB district, Most shops have closed or relocated on the side exiting the airport, However on the road entering the airport (right side when airport is infront of you) there are still a couple shops operating and have been for a couple of yrs.

What are the names and addresses of these shops? Get off your ass, jump on a scooter and ride around and take a look. They are not hard to find.Man, I'm tired of getting off my ass. I'll go find them, and then they'll move them all again. Ugh. So no more on Ba Vi? No more New Moon on Hau Giang? Very few left in Phu My Hung too, now. Queen is stlll there, and Spalucky (I like the way they combine it as if it's one word, sounds like Splucky), anyone seen others? There were 3 on the street before the last one before, all closed now (Rose, VIP and one other whose name I can't remember).

With any of these forums there are always newbies asking the easy questions that are asked too much. Hopefully the ones who were just newbies a short time ago can handle those questions, and things flow smoothly. The problem in this thread and the VN section was when someone decided to set up their lemonade stand. I said one thing about him that wasn't fair, he's not as bad as the Toad. That guy was way out of control, especially on that other forum. He had like 30 fake accounts all talking to each other, and praising him. That's one guy pretending to be other members, all of them saying how great he is. That was just sick. What ever happened to that guy? He went by the name Chao Ech on the forum, which means Frog. So critics started calling him "the toad".

[Mik Hcmc]

You know VN much better than a lot of other punters, We all know how shops come and go, be it selling stickers, mobile phones, laptops, bars and other services. They pop up all over the place.


Man, I'm tired of getting off my ass. I'll go find them, and then they'll move them all again. Ugh. So no more on Ba Vi? No more New Moon on Hau Giang? Very few left in Phu My Hung too, now. Queen is stlll there, and Spalucky (I like the way they combine it as if it's one word, sounds like Splucky), anyone seen others? There were 3 on the street before the last one before, all closed now (Rose, VIP and one other whose name I can't remember).

[Member #4566]

i'm sure we all know what a blow and go looks like, there are thousands of these shops rep001tered around the districts. no i don't know what one looks like. same for a ca phe om, restaurant om, et al. generally describing the appearance and signage of these places would be a real help.


the constant bickering by some members who expect full addresses without offering anything in return kinda defeats the purpose of a open discussion forum, so due to these members this thread has evolved into what it has become. i could not disagree with you more. some people really enjoy being helpful. they look forward to it. i can remember peering at a map in a major city and people stopping me and asking me if i was lost and offering help.

some people are takers and not givers but those few should not stop discourage those who want to help. as far as giving back, should we really expect a tourist to be able to give back substantive information to an experienced saigon expat? of course the information will usually be going in one direction. we should not be disappointed with this outcome.

some forum members may have been on the forum for too long. they get critical of newbies and abrasive towards other members. as familiarity breeds contempt so these longtime members no longer respect or understand the purpose of the forum. they should take a well-deserved break and come back when their attitude changes.


what are the names and addresses of these shops? get off your ass, jump on a scooter and ride around and take a look. they are not hard to find.wow. i think that you need to reevaluate your mission. i believe that you have been swirled up in the bickering and that you have lost your perspective. btw, i am on your side. you have a thankless job.

[Wendella]

You know VN much better than a lot of other punters, We all know how shops come and go, be it selling stickers, mobile phones, laptops, bars and other services. They pop up all over the place. I don't know, I think there's been a lot more going than coming in recent years, without much popping.

Speaking of which, you know now if I am signed in, I am not able to view my own posts. Seriously. Others say they can see my posts. (At least until you go delete them all.) But yeah, it's like I have myself on my ignore list. At first I thought Jackson had banned me. But if he did, he only banned me from seeing me.

Joking about the deleting, whatever you think works to keep the thread under control is fine by me, delete away. Maybe even this one if you want. I should say something really rude and make it worthwhile.

So back to the main thing, are you really going to make me drive up there again to find out which of these airport places are still open? Ugh.

[Sidtip]

I have just returned from Saigon and I have to wonder if the people writing here have any idea about what they are saying. This Ben Nys place is a dirty shithole. The girls are not that great. Even if the price is ok. The price they show you on a bit of cardboard is 150 for the shop and 200 for the girl. It might be the other way around. Either way I walked out after showing them the price quoted on this site. This annoyed them because I guess they don't believe this is the official price site. I wanted an excuse to leave anyway because they 6 girls were all 6's or 7's if you squint.

Most of the fancy District 1 Hot Tocs have closed. There are a few left and the girls still hang around in their short skirts etc. But the services in these are very limited. The good thing is that the tips are set before you start so know the total cost beforehand. Just do not be surprised if you do not get any extras.

I had a look around for the Om cafes with NO success. I have no idea if they exist anymore.

There are massage shops all over the place. Some offer more than others. The price is 150-200,000 for an hour. Then there is the tip. Instead of relying on this site I suggest that you just look around. I went to two that were notable.

1. In this place the girl is selected for you but you can send her back. Price 200,000. She was a 8 or 9. Happy ending and can touch everything. Tip 300,000 because I always talk to them and fall for them. But these girls are nice.

2. I was walking down the street when I noticed some legs in a tiny pink dress. I was stunned and started following them. I could not believe this body was real. I was tempted for the first time in my life to stop a girl in the street and offer her whatever she wanted to go with me. I followed her not even 50 m when she walked into a café and vanished before I could blink. I looked up at the signs on the shop and on the first floor there was a massage shop. I went in and asked if anyone did massages. This was an ordinary café with families eating.

The shop assistant walked upstairs and came back with my girl who said it was her job to get customers off the street and bring them in for the other girls. That's why she was so hot.

I told her that I only wanted a massage from her and as the shop had not yet opened she agreed. OMG. No. 1 she kept on her skirt and tight top but let my hands wander. Then I asked her to take off her panties and sit on me. Then began the best 3-hour session I have had in my life. She spent the next 3 hours rubbing my entire body with her naked arse, pussy and tits. We used the entire bottle of oil and were slipping and sliding all over each other. There was chest and ear and neck kissing. Fingering. You name it. Everything except sex which neither of us wanted. I can't remember the tip. I think it was $60. I was just ready to throw money at this girl. I went back 2 days later and saw the same girl. The session was the same but more relaxed. We could lie together and touch. But once again I received a massage of a lifetime with her using only her pussy and ass. She was pushing her pussy into my face to make me lick her but that's not my job and she was moaning as she rubbed her pussy up and down me. I got her contact details and am still in touch today. A week later. As I am going back to Saigon soon. This time I will get her to take a few days off work so we can spend more time together. I am actually flying back just for more of her body.

She was better than the 8-girl massage I got in Siem Reap. I'm going to save this post then write more.

[Mik Hcmc]

No I don't know what one looks like. Same for a ca phe om, restaurant om, et al. Generally describing the appearance and signage of these places would be a real help.Just look for a sign that says Hot Toc, you will know by reading the descriptions of what the shop will look like.

If you see guys and / or girls dressed in jeans, teeshirt with a lot of customers sitting in chairs then clearly you are in the wrong place, If you see a Hot Toc with girls wearing short skirts, low cut tops then you MAY be in the right place, However this is VN, not all is what it seems.

Pretty much a small shop, pink or blue lights at night time inside the entry of the shop, girls wearing sexy outfits.


I don't know, I think there's been a lot more going than coming in recent years, without much popping.


So back to the main thing, are you really going to make me drive up there again to find out which of these airport places are still open? Ugh.Lots of business's have been closing down, Down turn in the economy.

As you may know I havn't visited a fuckshop since late 09. Yeah its been a while but I've been busy with my other places I visit and my 3 holer sex toy I'm training.

[HunterZ17]

Visited Benny's today.

They still renovate their premise. Tried to visit their place 2 weeks ago, but then cancelled it (right in front of their premise) when I knew that they had some construction inside. Today, took taxi from D1 around 1.30 PM. Surprised as there were lots of worker inside. Wanted to cancel again, but didn't want to feel wasted. So, I gave it a go. Went it and ask a boy in front if they were open, he pointed to inside so I assumed it was on. Met the reception and she showed me a paper (without ask or talk much): Fee 150 K, Tip 200 K. FYI, I never been here and usually it never smooth at first (as my face look like locals). One lady took escort me to back side, took the stairs, and entered small room (without door. Just curtain). Have the deed done, and she asked if I wanted more. Then replied "yes". She motioned 2 of her finger (2 hundreds? I didn't mind for that, so she then continued but my junior wasn't interest on her, after 15 minutes sucking all, I said stop. Gave her the promised 200 K and went off.

BJ: 6/10, Face: 6/10 , Body (6/10).

[NguyenImproved]

when i first met him a number of yrs ago, it was with another member whom shall remain annon due to him not posting anything in the past few yrs.

he told me he was a day trader, only lived in saigon because he had access to a house, something he didn't have back in oz. he also took us to the barbershops in tan binh, the addresses he got off the ******** forum, also it was interesting to note, he had never been to these places, so it was like a reccon mission with a couple others. he took us to rose (now closed for a couple yrs) and then to tulip (also closed).

i personally don't have anything against him, i've said it before and i'll say it again, sure he has knowledge but its not exactly a big secret now. nothing stopping members from meeting up and going for a ride around, having a look. its how i found places before i knew of this forum, and its still how i find places.

i'm sure we all know what a blow and go looks like, there are thousands of these shops rep001tered around the districts. the constant bickering by some members who expect full addresses without offering anything in return kinda defeats the purpose of a open discussion forum, so due to these members this thread has evolved into what it has become...that's really weird man. i contacted him around the same time. we chat over other pm.

he told me he knew some cool places but things seemed to hit a snag.

he said before i tell you valuable info i want to know who i'm giving it to.

he kept asking about myself and how everything's give and take.

i guessed he was hinting i should pay him and so i asked flat out: "do you want money".

i said how much do you want.

i offered 200/400 k can't remember which.

he said that's like $10/ $20 aud only.

i said so what you want a hundred bucks?

then we both kinda ejected from the conversation.

p.s. i met the guy you said who met him with you. the young tall american schoolteacher guy.

he said that guy was a gym junkie and ok guy but serious. (or was it arrogant or bossy?

it was a long time ago but reading your account sounds right.

he is a really weird guy. can't figure his angle. surely he knows not enough people are going to pay $100 to be given an address?

or are there enough noobs that desperate to support his habit?

[PartyAnimal]

Hi pals. Staying at an upscale hotel in D1 and ventured out on my own yesterday towards Bui Vien area. Was asked almost 5-6 times by guys if I wanted a lady. However, I was just interested in getting to know the area to avoid getting into trouble. Lots of bars with mattresses outside and people sitting and drinking on the footpath. Was given card by a lady for a massage. While out on Tran Hung Dao was handed another card by a lady for a spa which was on the same street. May be I would try it tonight. Near my hotel, a lady on a scooter kept pestering me to come with her as she had some good girls, enough for me to feel embarrased on the road. Since this is a new country for me altogether, can anyone of the members here help me with a place near Tran Hung Dao / Bui Vien which is hygienic, clean and provides b2 b massage? Not looking for FS or even BJ. I have PM facility. Unfortunately due to ton of work, might not be able to go very far from my hotel. Thanks in advance.

[Wendella]

The cafe oms around HCMC that provided BJ seem to have moslty disappeared. (if you know where some are now, feel free to share).

But for those looking for less than that, basically for some cozy contact with a girl, then there is one street in D8 that has a bunch of this type.

The street is Pham The Hien, and if you head into D8 onto this street from D5 via the Nguyen Bieu bridge, then you will go over a very small bridge first before reaching the section of the street that has these places.

They're located at 538,572, 661 (next to a bar / karaoke called MTV), 698,714 and 728 (I think that's the number for the last one).

Be warned, there are some girls in these places that are not too lovely, but some or maybe most of the cafes will have one or 2 who are fairly cute and worth having sit in your lap.

The level of service varies. At best a girl will sit in your lap and be very touchy, and also allow you to be too. In one, a girl just sat there not seeming too interested in doing anything. In another she sat in the next chair and stayed put there, did not want to do more than that, would not even when asked. Allowed limited groping but also chatted with her girlfriend behind us for much of the time, so that was not very good service. When you get a good one, it's obvious.

Prices, you pay for your coffee or coke or whatever you order at 30 k or 50 k, and the tip expected seems to be somewhere between 50 k and 100 k. Once I tipped 100 K and the girl seemed surprised and a bit too happy about it, which made me think I had overtipped. But she was a total dead fish too, so maybe that was why.

If any one knows of other areas with these same types of places, I'd be glad to hear about it. I'm too busy to go out exploring like in the old days.

[Wendella]

He said before I tell you valuable info I want to know who I'm giving it to.

He kept asking about myself and how everything's give and take.
Nothing personal against MC, but the forum rules spell it out very clearly: it's a bad idea to be sharing your personal details with other members here. God forbid, if some member got into some trouble with police, and they have contact details of a lot of members here, then it goes without saying that this info will be shared with the police. Why would someone who is basically a stranger to you stick his own neck out to protect you. Maybe I'm paranoid, but it doesn't seem worth the risk. Also if a guy knows who you are, then they might eventually come in contact with people who know you and then share details about your secret exploits. I really don't get why he is so keen to find out personal info from other members, it has never felt good to me. There's another forum dominated by Singaporeans where they standardly meet up in real life, using the forum as a way to initiate contacts. Again, not being from that country, I don't get it. That forum really doesn't get into the nitty gritty details like this one, is really useless for good useable information or to find out what places are really like, what services available. It's a total waste of time for anyone who wants to find out those kinds of things. Good for chit chat though, especially if you're Singaporean (lots of Singlish used and local slang, even Chinese terms). So maybe MC, who I think did get socially involved with guys at that forum, liked that and wanted to import that ethic to this forum. But it's not a good mix, in my humble opinion at least. If we were holding back on the details like they do at that forum, maybe, but then this forum would not be worth coming to for info. That said, I don't think charging money for info would have gone over any better on that forum than on this one, actually I think the response would have been harsher.

[Sidtip]

It's a bad idea to be sharing your personal details with other members here. Wendella is 100 per cent correct. It's madness sharing your details with anyone on this site. It takes seconds to befriend you on Facebook and link up with your friends. They could then start posting screenshots of your ISG posts. Think blackmail. How much would you be willing to pay to stop someone showing your friends all your posts on ISG.

[Mik Hcmc]

P.S. I met the guy you said who met him with you. The young tall American schoolteacher guy.You got the wrong guy but anyway, MC's concern was he didn't want any undercover cops getting told and ruining the fun, also make sure you don't go blabbing to everyone on the forum about these places. His words were "Vetted".

This was a free service BTW, We met up, had some drinks, chatted about life in vn and then followed him to the destinations. Nothing wrong with that.

Why all the paranoia in this forum, We are almost as paranoid as the massage girls who keep pointing to the door saying polith polith.

[FriendlyPlanet]

What some say are the best spots by far would be the massage places up near the airport. If you PM enough guys you will get those exact addresses for free. (if you PM the wrong guy, you will get a price quote of $100 or so for the same info) Ba Vi street has a couple of them (VIP and 4 Seasons). Hau Giang has at least one more (New Moon). If you find those streets, you should find the places. The streets are on Google Maps, they're in Tan Binh district. And one note, I haven't been up there in a couple months, so it's possible those places moved. (Can anyone confirm, or have current info?) There are also some side streets in Phu My Hung near Sky Garden that have more of these places at a slightly higher price. They're mostly in the back away from the main street Nguyen Van Linh. A bunch of them were closed recently, but there are still a few in there.

There's a hostess bar called VIC that is on one of the side streets off of Cach Mang Thang 8 street, it's either Ho Xuan Huong or else Ngo Thoi Nhiem. The girls are expensive to take out (price always changing, and I haven't been there in a long time), and you have to be really wary of bill-padding, but they usually have a decent selection.

There's a few spots around town with BJ massage / hot toc, Nguyen Phi Khanh in the north of D1 was a street that has at least one. (Address, guys? This isn't a place I go to. 84?) There's plenty of info about Benny's on Dien Bien Phu in Binh Thanh district. There are also MANY around town that do only HJ. In that case they often will cuddle with you on your little bed, some groping allowed, so it's not as bad as it sounds.Wendella,

I appreciate the information. In the interests of sharing, I rode a moto around Koreatown today, and this is what I saw-

Ba Vi- only one spa open, went in, fancier lobby than I remember, only 4 girls working, mama-san asked for 800 K for sex. Didn't see anything I liked so I went off to Hau Giang to look for New Moon. Saw the neon sign, but when I followed it down the side street, nothing was open. This was around 2 pm in the afternoon.

A tout spotted me doing the u-turn, asked me if I was looking for New Moon, and told me to follow him. Followed him across to the other side of Truong Son, went in a few blocks to 25 Cuu Long, a place called Thien Ly, though the card also says New Moon. Thought that Thien Ly might be Vietnamese for New Moon, but when I checked in Google Translate, it means God's justice- what a name for a massage place!

Anyway, there were around 15 girls, early 20's to late 20's, mainly doable. Standard 800 K fee, including tip, so if the tout got a commission, it didn't raise my price. I picked out one of the more slender ones, got good service though no BJ. I'd definitely say worth checking out.

Friendly.

[Reader123]

There are usually more girls in the evening at Ba Vi. Around 10 to 15.


Wendella,


Ba Vi- only one spa open, went in, fancier lobby than I remember, only 4 girls working, mama-san asked for 800 K for sex. Didn't see anything I liked so I went off to Hau Giang to look for New Moon. Saw the neon sign, but when I followed it down the side street, nothing was open. This was around 2 pm in the afternoon.

Friendly.

[Wendella]

Mik HCMC, your inbox is full, so my private message to you is not going through. Guess you have to do some deleting.

W.

[Mik Hcmc]

Inbox has space now. Pm away mate


Mik HCMC, your inbox is full, so my private message to you is not going through. Guess you have to do some deleting.

W..

[Member #4566]

Last night I did my obligatory trip to Benny's, Saigon's durable and reliable outlet for blowjobs at a reasonable price. An ISG contributor had stated that if you give the taxi driver these instructions then you will be taken there: 110 Dien Bien Phu St - - P 17 Binh Thanh. Sure enough there was no problem finding the place. Upon entry I was given a slip of paper which said 150,000 + 200,000 = 350,000. They wanted the money upfront.

My girl was slight, young, but nothing too great. Again this was not the issue. I was there to get the chrome sucked off my trailer hitch. The rest was foofaraw. I was taken up a steeply constructed staircase, instructed to sit down on a dentist style chair and the work began.

She first cleaned the family jewels and began to slurp on my nipples. Didn't really enhance anything. She pulled down her bra and pulled up her panties and offered me her privates. Time and again she would guide my hand to her pussy and gestured that I should play with it. But for me, a blowjob is not about her body and dreaming that I am f-cking her. Rather it is all about me and the enjoyment that I am getting as she skillfully brings me to orgasm.

After about 10 minutes, her enthusiasm began to wane. Soon she complains that I am not hard. I have been sick. Eating uncooked vegetables has given me diarear. My immune system is compromised and my dick is less effective. Her stopping and starting was not helping things.

Finally I got her to make a sustained climb to the summit and with me pushing my engines, we were able to complete the mission. I have had better blowjobs but it is really not a bad deal. I really expected that Bennys' was going to be a rat trap and although it was no Xanadu, I have seen much worse in my travels in Asia.

One more note; when I left Benny's I took a right in search of another BJ shop in proximity to Bennys which has been reported on the Forum. Sure enough, about 5 minutes later I passed the place. I did not note the name but the girls inside seemed a cut above the the ones in Bennys.

[Xohai]

The guy does seem to have a lot of knowledge, you are right about that. He hasn't been blackballed though. The moderator of this thread doesn't have the power to ban members (if that is what you mean), so as far as I know his account is still active. What irks a lot of long time members is that he only shares info for payment. He posts reports here as if he's a normal member sharing info, in order to lure mainly new members to send hm a PM where the sales pitch begins. The expectation of this site is that members will share info for free, that's its purpose, so if someone pays for a subscription just to find out that they then have to pay a lot more for info from this guy (typical reaction is WTF), that's not cool. He's pretending to be one of us normal members sharing info in order to trick newbies into sending him PM's and starting his sales pitch. Forum rules are that there's no advertising in the non-advertising threads, but that's what he's really doing. His FR's are effectively ads. And they have been leading to non-stop bickering in this VN section for a very long time now. What's more he's pretty damn rude in PM's, which clearly violates forum rules.

By the way, I drove past that VIC bar that I mentioned in a recent post. It's at 55 Ho Xuan Huong, just off of CMT8.VIC is very expensive. When you go early around 8:30 when the girls started to show up, you'll see alot. This place used to have like alot of 9's' but lately are just 6-8. Used to go out with a few that could be a super model (4 years ago). Last Dec. When I was back. I go every 6-9 mths, so I try to go at least once.

Most of the time I roam around bars, reg cafe and get the girls. Most of the time, I would get them to come back. Anyway, story short. Been reading and interested in seeing something different. So if you're free in 4 days, I'll land and we can meet for drinks and explore the city and share infos. PM me and let's get together.

BTW, I know I havn't share much infos on here, been really lazy and busy at the same time.

[Xohai]

First thing that must be said: "It's not great here now." The HBT hostess-for-hire bars got clamped down on last year and have not recovered. There are 2 of them that are still semi-worth a look now: Bin Bin at 13 Le Thanh Ton (I think that's the address) and another little one on on Nguyen Sieu street off of HBT, next to a restaurant (its a very short street, can't miss it). The rest of them are not really worth even poking your head in. There's Apocalypse Now on Thi sach near there, freelancers, not cheap. The discos and nightclubs are tough nuts to crack as a tourist. Also expensive nuts to crack. The backpacker area has a bunch of bars with over-priced mediocre looking ones, Do Quang Dau street has a few of them, and around the corner on De Tham has more. Hate to even mention these places because I doubt you'll find something decent there. I hear they're asking silly prices now in these backpacker places.

What some say are the best spots by far would be the massage places up near the airport. If you PM enough guys you will get those exact addresses for free. (if you PM the wrong guy, you will get a price quote of $100 or so for the same info) Ba Vi street has a couple of them (VIP and 4 Seasons). Hau Giang has at least one more (New Moon). If you find those streets, you should find the places. The streets are on Google Maps, they're in Tan Binh district. And one note, I haven't been up there in a couple months, so it's possible those places moved. (Can anyone confirm, or have current info?) There are also some side streets in Phu My Hung near Sky Garden that have more of these places at a slightly higher price. They're mostly in the back away from the main street Nguyen Van Linh...HCMC is actually getting really bad. Prices are almost as much as USA. Talents are getting better, but still, very expensive and hard to get because there are so many dai gia now. Only been hanging out with the group last few years to see them. They don't go with poor people anymore (which I am still belonging the this group). Only way is to really searching and be patience. Well, been lucky so far on my last few trips.

Anyway. Google my userid you'll see my email and we'll get in touch.

[Wendella]

Hi. Thanks for the invite, Xohai, I appreciate it. One thing I have to say though, I'm one of these paranoid neurotic types who doesn't meet other members. I keep all my meetings and communication here in the forum, either in the threads or else in PM's. I'm happy to share any info you want, whichever way you prefer.

Actualy since I wrote those words about the downtown District 1 bars, things have improved. There are a few less bars now, with more than half on HBT itself being closed. But the bars still standing have gotten friskier again. Prices have edged up, it's now necessary to bargain, but still possible to get one for about one point two mil plus barfine. It's also possible to completely relax upstairs in some of these places. Bin Bin, Nightfall and 29 for sure, not sure which others. I got spectacular treatment (short of complete relaxation) in one of them very recently. Oh and most importantly, the quality of what is on offer has been steadily improving the last few months. Even 91 seems to be bouncing back.

By the way, the term "completely relax" is CODE. It means something else. (see, I really am paranoid).

[Galapagox91]

At present, most cafe om moved to suburb and Binh Duong province. Even though it is quite far from the city center like D1 or D3, price is inexpensive with 150 k to 200 k for BJ. The girls are young, mostly come from the countryside (the West of VN or provinces nearby Cambodia), low level of learning, of course they cannot speak English. My local friend guided me to some cafe oms in Di an town in Binh Duong . It took me more than an hour from the city center to there, but it is really worthy. After I got into the cafe om, a teen girl with cute face comes and sits on my lap. She asked me whether she could sit and duck soup with me. I am quite anxious because the girl is really young but my local friend reassured me. At here, the owner negotiated with the local government in the darkness, so it is safe. The tip is counted by the number of glasses called, usually 4 glasses for 20-30 minutes with 20 k for each. During the time she sits with you, you can touch her body. If you want to fuck, can negotiate with the girl and come to hotel (usually from 300 k to 500 k depend on girls). Leave the cafe om, my local friend and I came to DT743, cafe om BJ. We got into the cafe om named Phuong Nhi. At there, the girls use mouth 100% for BJ, not use hand and let us CIM free. Price for each shot in 20 minutes is 150 k. I chose a girl and came with her to a leaf hut. She let me sit on a chair and BJ. Compared with the massage girls in D1, the girls here are not beautiful, but teen and their tongue technique is very good. I cummed on the girl's face in only 10 minutes. If someone want to know these cafe oms, can inbox me, I will introduce you my local friend.

[Fun with Colour]

At present, most cafe om moved to suburb and Binh Duong province. Even though it is quite far from the city center like D1 or D3, price is inexpensive with 150 k to 200 k for BJ. The girls are young, mostly come from the countryside (the West of VN or provinces nearby Cambodia), low level of learning, of course they cannot speak English. My local friend guided me to some cafe oms in Di an town in Binh Duong . It took me more than an hour from the city center to there, but it is really worthy. After I got into the cafe om, a teen girl with cute face comes and sits on my lap. She asked me whether she could sit and duck soup with me. I am quite anxious because the girl is really young but my local friend reassured me. At here, the owner negotiated with the local government in the darkness, so it is safe. The tip is counted by the number of glasses called, usually 4 glasses for 20-30 minutes with 20 k for each. During the time she sits with you, you can touch her body. If you want to fuck, can negotiate with the girl and come to hotel (usually from 300 k to 500 k depend on girls). Leave the cafe om, my local friend and I came to DT743, cafe om BJ. We got into the cafe om named Phuong Nhi. At there, the girls use mouth 100% for BJ, not use hand and let us CIM free. Price for each shot in 20 minutes is 150 k. I chose a girl and came with her to a leaf hut. She let me sit on a chair and BJ. Compared with the massage girls in D1, the girls here are not beautiful, but teen and their tongue technique is very good. I cummed on the girl's face in only 10 minutes. If someone want to know these cafe oms, can inbox me, I will introduce you my local friend.Tried to send you a private message, but your settings obviously don't allow for this.

[JBwashere]

At present, most cafe om moved to suburb and Binh Duong province. Even though it is quite far from the city center like D1 or D3, price is inexpensive with 150 k to 200 k for BJ. The girls are young, mostly come from the countryside (the West of VN or provinces nearby Cambodia), low level of learning, of course they cannot speak English. My local friend guided me to some cafe oms in Di an town in Binh Duong . It took me more than an hour from the city center to there, but it is really worthy. After I got into the cafe om, a teen girl with cute face comes and sits on my lap. She asked me whether she could sit and duck soup with me. I am quite anxious because the girl is really young but my local friend reassured me. At here, the owner negotiated with the local government in the darkness, so it is safe. The tip is counted by the number of glasses called, usually 4 glasses for 20-30 minutes with 20 k for each. During the time she sits with you, you can touch her body. If you want to fuck, can negotiate with the girl and come to hotel (usually from 300 k to 500 k depend on girls). Leave the cafe om, my local friend and I came to DT743, cafe om BJ. We got into the cafe om named Phuong Nhi. At there, the girls use mouth 100% for BJ, not use hand and let us CIM free. Price for each shot in 20 minutes is 150 k. I chose a girl and came with her to a leaf hut. She let me sit on a chair and BJ. Compared with the massage girls in D1, the girls here are not beautiful, but teen and their tongue technique is very good. I cummed on the girl's face in only 10 minutes. If someone want to know these cafe oms, can inbox me, I will introduce you my local friend.Thanks for the write up!

Tried to message you but it says you don't have private messages turned on would love to know the location or general area to look feel free to PM me with details.

Cheers

[LuvAsianTang]

She first cleaned the family jewels and began to slurp on my nipples. Didn't really enhance anything. She pulled down her bra and pulled up her panties and offered me her privates. Time and again she would guide my hand to her pussy and gestured that I should play with it. But for me, a blowjob is not about her body and dreaming that I am f-cking her. Rather it is all about me and the enjoyment that I am getting as she skillfully brings me to orgasm.That must have been very uncomfortable giving herself a super wedgy like that LOL.

LuvasianTang.

[Galapagox91]

Tried to send you a private message, but your settings obviously don't allow for this.Hi friend,

I now rent a room at Pham Ngu Lao, D1 but maybe come back home country soon. Therefore, you can contact my local [Email address deleted by Admin]. He is very kind and may help you. These cafe om are in Binh duong province, you use google earth to find place name "Miếu Ông Cù".

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[Tiger 888]

As you can't edit your post to correct the spell checker: I believe you mean Miếu Ông Cù, right?

[John Cert]

Does any BJ bars exist currently in Hanoi?

[Wendella]

Does any BJ bars exist currently in Hanoi?I know the name of the thread doesn't say so, but this thread has always just incuded Saigon info, not Hanoi. You should go post this same question in the Hanoi thread, because that's a whole other group of people who post there, and not many of them look in this thread because it's for the opposite end of the country. Likewise, people who check this thread here will probably have no idea about Hanoi places. Good luck.

[TomSf]

Nothing personal against MC, but the forum rules spell it out very clearly: it's a bad idea to be sharing your personal details with other members here. God forbid, if some member got into some trouble with police, and they have contact details of a lot of members here, then it goes without saying that this info will be shared with the police. Why would someone who is basically a stranger to you stick his own neck out to protect you. Maybe I'm paranoid, but it doesn't seem worth the risk. Also if a guy knows who you are, then they might eventually come in contact with people who know you and then share details about your secret exploits. I really don't get why he is so keen to find out personal info from other members, it has never felt good to me. There's another forum dominated by Singaporeans where they standardly meet up in real life, using the forum as a way to initiate contacts. Again, not being from that country, I don't get it. That forum really doesn't get into the nitty gritty details like this one, is really useless for good useable information or to find out what places are really like, what services available. It's a total waste of time for anyone who wants to find out those kinds of things. Good for chit chat though, especially if you're Singaporean (lots of Singlish used and local slang, even Chinese terms). So maybe MC, who I think did get socially involved with guys at that forum, liked that and wanted to import that ethic to this forum. But it's not a good mix, in my humble opinion at least. If we were holding back on the details like they do at that forum, maybe, but then this forum would not be worth coming to for info. That said, I don't think charging money for info would have gone over any better on that forum than on this one, actually I think the response would have been harsher.This was an excellent post. I wanted to add meeting other mongers in person that you meet on this site and others. I always picture the other member a undercover police officer. They get you on tape talking about sex vacations. Specifically if you are meeting them in another country. Arrest you to make an example of you and use your own words on tape against you. What a stupid why to get caught and go to jail.

[LuvAsianTang]

Hi. Thanks for the invite, Xohai, I appreciate it. One thing I have to say though, I'm one of these paranoid neurotic types who doesn't meet other members. I keep all my meetings and communication here in the forum, either in the threads or else in PM's. I'm happy to share any info you want, whichever way you prefer.

Actualy since I wrote those words about the downtown District 1 bars, things have improved. There are a few less bars now, with more than half on HBT itself being closed. But the bars still standing have gotten friskier again. Prices have edged up, it's now necessary to bargain, but still possible to get one for about one point two mil plus barfine. It's also possible to completely relax upstairs in some of these places. Bin Bin, Nightfall and 29 for sure, not sure which others. I got spectacular treatment (short of complete relaxation) in one of them very recently. Oh and most importantly, the quality of what is on offer has been steadily improving the last few months. Even 91 seems to be bouncing back.

By the way, the term "completely relax" is CODE. It means something else. (see, I really am paranoid).As in "completely relax" you, or just go "completely relax" yourself? Ha ha that's great code.

LAT.

[FruitNinja]

I have just returned from Saigon and I have to wonder if the people writing here have any idea about what they are saying. This Ben Nys place is a dirty shithole. The girls are not that great. Even if the price is ok. The price they show you on a bit of cardboard is 150 for the shop and 200 for the girl. It might be the other way around. Either way I walked out after showing them the price quoted on this site. This annoyed them because I guess they don't believe this is the official price site. I wanted an excuse to leave anyway because they 6 girls were all 6's or 7's if you squint.

Most of the fancy District 1 Hot Tocs have closed. There are a few left and the girls still hang around in their short skirts etc. But the services in these are very limited. The good thing is that the tips are set before you start so know the total cost beforehand. Just do not be surprised if you do not get any extras.

I had a look around for the Om cafes with NO success. I have no idea if they exist anymore.

There are massage shops all over the place. Some offer more than others. The price is 150-200,000 for an hour. Then there is the tip. Instead of relying on this site I suggest that you just look around. I went to two that were notable...You mean stuff like reviews that tell absolutely nothing other then the fact you had fun. Very helpful right? How about a name and address. Pot kettle thing.

[Rokraida]

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[Rokraida]

You mean stuff like reviews that tell absolutely nothing other then the fact you had fun. Very helpful right? How about a name and address. Pot kettle thing.If you want BBJ hot toc places don't go to ben nys.

Either go to Dinh Bo Linh near the bridge.

Or Nguyen Phi Khanh.

These places have been around for 5 yrs plus+++.

[Willym888]

I went there on the 8th of this month and it was closed. Construction going on.

Number 90 on the same road which was also a Hottoc is also no longer there. It appears to be a café.


If you want BBJ hot toc places don't go to ben nys.

Either go to Dinh Bo Linh near the bridge.

Or Nguyen Phi Khanh.

These places have been around for 5 yrs plus+++.

[HuskyOne]

Either go to Dinh Bo Linh near the bridge. Or Nguyen Phi Khanh I'll be there pretty soon, it's tricky finding exactly where you mean though.

Dinh Bo Linh. Is this: Tiệm Hớt Tsee Anh Kim ** Đinh beộ Lĩnh?

Nguyen Phi Khanh. Is this: Tiệm seeắt Tsee Phi Khanh ** Nguyễand Phi Khanh?

Thanks!

[Mogwai]

I went to a Hot Toc / massage parlor in Nguyễn Phi Khanh. I believe it said 'massad' in the name of the place but the rest of the name has slipped my mind, sorry for that. It was approximately half way down the street on the right side coming from Dinh Tiên Hoàng. This was my very first visit to such a place in Vietnam so I was a little bit nervous and didn't know exactly what to expect. But the 24 yo girl who took me by the hand to lead me upstairs to the room was cute, very friendly and sweet and made me feel at ease pretty quick. She gave me a decent enough massage; not the best I ever had but certainly not the worst either.

When she had asked me to turn around she removed my underpants (I had kept it on but maybe it is standard to go naked right away?), slipped out of her panties and pulled her shirt down. OK, it was clear that the naughty part was about to start LOL! Then I realized I didn't ask for the price of the services when I entered the place. I asked the girl for the price but she didn't understand me (or pretended she didn't understand me). Oh well, we'll see about that later.

She played with my balls a little bit and licked them for a while and then she started a BBBJ. It was a bit mediocre to be honest. Too rushed and not as sensitive as I like it. She also made fake moaning sounds all the time. Sometimes she stopped for 10 or 20 seconds to lick my balls again or to give me a HJ and she even gave me a few kisses on the mouth. Meanwhile she allowed me to finger her pussy from behind which was a little bit wet. It took me quite some time to finish, I think 10 minutes or so, because she didn't do it exactly how I like it. But she kept on going and going without complaining until I finished in her mouth so I have to give her credit for that.

Downstairs the 'mamasan', or whatever these women are called here, presented me the bill: 800.000 VND. Hmmm, I don't think so. I smiled and said 'no way, no more than 400.000'. She insisted on 800.000 for a while, then dropped to 700.000 and 600.000 and finally after 5 minutes of arguing (in a firm way but not aggressive) to 500.000. She would not go lower than that. So I decided to take my chances, handed over 400.000 and walked away, just to see what would happen. Well, nothing happened. She didn't say anything anymore and neither did the two men (pimps?) that were hanging around. So I guess I still paid too much and they were satisfied?

[LuvAsianTang]

If you want BBJ hot toc places don't go to ben nys.

Either go to Dinh Bo Linh near the bridge.

Or Nguyen Phi Khanh.

These places have been around for 5 yrs plus+++.I just walked every meter of Dinh Bo Linh and found nothing. I even walked down all of the side streets and found nothing. This isn't my first trip to vietnam either so I know what to look for and ask. I walked from bach dang to the bridge, all the way to the river then down the street running parallel to Dinh Bo Linh, and found nothing. I did find hot tocs with men in them and no sign of girls. Non asked me if I wanted massage and the ones that I asked just giggled like little girls and shook their hands in the air (no in vietnamese I guess). This is the second time I've tried to find hot tocs on Dinh Bo Linh, both times I came up empty handed.

Is this just bad intel or am I missing something.

LAT.

[HochiMinge]

I just walked every meter of Dinh Bo Linh and found nothing. I even walked down all of the side streets and found nothing. This isn't my first trip to vietnam either so I know what to look for and ask. I walked from bach dang to the bridge, all the way to the river then down the street running parallel to Dinh Bo Linh, and found nothing. I did find hot tocs with men in them and no sign of girls. Non asked me if I wanted massage and the ones that I asked just giggled like little girls and shook their hands in the air (no in vietnamese I guess). This is the second time I've tried to find hot tocs on Dinh Bo Linh, both times I came up empty handed.

Is this just bad intel or am I missing something.

LAT.Nope you're about 2 years too late. I used to work up that way and there were at least 7 different places. All gone now. The whole district (and city) is being cleaned up. There are still some areas that have them. Nguyen Phi Khanh in D1, the D10 side of the Nhieu Loc canal road and there's a cluster at the side of Nguyen Bieu bridge in D5. Never been to any so can't comment.

[MutantChicken]

I just walked every meter of Dinh Bo Linh and found nothing. I even walked down all of the side streets and found nothing. This isn't my first trip to vietnam either so I know what to look for and ask. I walked from bach dang to the bridge, all the way to the river then down the street running parallel to Dinh Bo Linh, and found nothing. I did find hot tocs with men in them and no sign of girls. Non asked me if I wanted massage and the ones that I asked just giggled like little girls and shook their hands in the air (no in vietnamese I guess). This is the second time I've tried to find hot tocs on Dinh Bo Linh, both times I came up empty handed.

Is this just bad intel or am I missing something.

LAT.No you are right its old / bad intel. That wholes district was the subject of a Hanoi directive to crack down. So forget that whole district. Unless you like wasting your time. The owners of those shops have moved to other districts so life goes on.

[Mogwai]

I went to another Hot Toc at Nguyên Phi Khanh yesterday and this time I payed in advance: 200.000 for the 'mama' and 300.000 for the girl.

Got an early twenties cutie again but this girl was really horny. She lead my hand to her pussy almost right away when we were in the room and wanted to be fingered. She was a little bit wet already. I suggested to lick her and she climbed on top of me on the table immediately. Her pussy and butt hole were immaculately fresh and she became very wet. Meanwhile she gave me a decent blowjob. I thought about asking for boom boom but decided to save that for another time. I was having a real good time already.

After I had finished in her mouth, she cleaned me up and gave me a short massage. Nothing to write home about but nice nevertheless.
She escorted me all the way to the front door on my way out and I got the impression she was hoping to get a tip. But I think 300.000 was enough.

I'm starting to like these Hot Tocs! Although so far I didn't have a good fuck in this town and I'm beginning to miss that.

[Ikksman]

This was an excellent post. I wanted to add meeting other mongers in person that you meet on this site and others. I always picture the other member a undercover police officer. They get you on tape talking about sex vacations. Specifically if you are meeting them in another country. Arrest you to make an example of you and use your own words on tape against you. What a stupid why to get caught and go to jail.This is terrible news! I never pictured such an event.

Now, all of us will desist from meeting fellow mongerers, enjoying each others company and going on joint mongering expeditions. My mongering life has now been decimated!

I assume that your report is not simply paranoia!

How often does this happen in S. E. Asia?

How often are westerners employed as undercover plainclothes police officers, in S. E. Asian countries, to lure mongerers to their doom?

Please respond! I am in shock!

Ikks.

[Wendella]

How often does this happen in S. E. Asia?

How often are westerners employed as undercover plainclothes police officers, in S. E. Asian countries, to lure mongerers to their doom?

Please respond! I am in shock!




How often does this happen in S. E. Asia?

How often are westerners employed as undercover plainclothes police officers, in S. E. Asian countries, to lure mongerers to their doom?

Please respond! I am in shock!

Ikks.I don't think anyone was talking about undercover plainclothes officers.

I think we all realize that foreigners do get caught doing things they shouldn't be doing here. There's stories every few days in local papers of these kinds of places being busted and foreign customers caught in the act. If you meet members here, they're essentially strangers. So you trust strangers to not name you as someone who does this? I do know of a few guys who had to leave the country permanently, it does happen.

There's also your local reputation to consider. Maybe that's not important for you, but for some people here it might be. Very easy for such info to leak out and become part of the grapevine.

And finally, forums like this one tend to attract a few people who are maybe a bit unstable, or maybe just not very nice. There are people out there who do go and try to cause trouble. I saw a battle on one forum (not this one) where some members were actively trying to get another member into trouble with authorities, working together via PM to do that.

But I guess if your reputation amongst locals here is not important, or your social standing is something you don't worry about, if you just live in a foreigner bubble (nothing wrong with that), or just visit here, then maybe your own risk is low.

I don't think it's silly for some people to not want to meet other members though, or to want to remain anonymous.

[Ikksman]

I don't think anyone was talking about undercover plainclothes officers. {S N I P}
And finally, forums like this one tend to attract a few people who are maybe a bit unstable, or maybe just not very nice. There are people out there who do go and try to cause trouble. {S N I P}
I don't think it's silly for some people to not want to meet other members though, or to want to remain anonymous.I agree with you, except that a poster actually wrote about undercover police officers:


This was an excellent post. I wanted to add meeting other mongers in person that you meet on this site and others. I always picture the other member a undercover police officer. {S N I P} What a stupid why to get caught and go to jail.This same guy has also repeatedly (over a period of more than one year), made claims on the ISG China forums about plainclothes police bursting into hotel rooms, BBS rooms etc (usually claiming that a Chinese friend told him about it). This is why I asked for any evidence of these occurrences in Vietnam.

And I have met other members - usually longstanding members. I live in Shenzhen, and could have serious problems (professionally and visa-wise) if I was exposed, so obviously I am cautious.

So, my tongue was very firmly planted in my cheek (and I was not trying to use sign language to indicate I wanted a BJ).

Cheers.

[Wendella]

So, my tongue was very firmly planted in my cheek (and I was not trying to use sign language to indicate I wanted a BJ).

Cheers.Ha. OK. Thats what I get for not reading carefully. Sorry about that.

[Sidtip]

You mean stuff like reviews that tell absolutely nothing other then the fact you had fun. Very helpful right? How about a name and address. Pot kettle thing.If you read all the messages that followed you would see that my clues were enough for someone else to find both places and he then went on to name one. These places are still there. Read the posts and you will discover it all. Saigon is hotter than hell if you know where to look.

[Jojo7]

What are the normal hours of operation for most of the places?

If I wander out of my hotel at 9 pm am I still in time for some fun or have I had it for the day.

Thanks

[Rokraida]

I just walked every meter of Dinh Bo Linh and found nothing. I even walked down all of the side streets and found nothing. This isn't my first trip to vietnam either so I know what to look for and ask. I walked from bach dang to the bridge, all the way to the river then down the street running parallel to Dinh Bo Linh, and found nothing. I did find hot tocs with men in them and no sign of girls. Non asked me if I wanted massage and the ones that I asked just giggled like little girls and shook their hands in the air (no in vietnamese I guess). This is the second time I've tried to find hot tocs on Dinh Bo Linh, both times I came up empty handed.

Is this just bad intel or am I missing something.

LAT.The dinh bo linh places I haven't been to in the last few years. I knew some had closed but I actually had an argument with a taxi driver insisting the places still existed. He said he dropped customers off only last week ago. Sorry I haven't checked the intel.

[Rokraida]

I went to another Hot Toc at Nguyn Phi Khanh yesterday and this time I payed in advance: 200.000 for the 'mama' and 300.000 for the girl..Just a tip guys for prices at hot tocs BJ places.

The price is generally 100-150 k for shared rooms.

And 150-200 k for private room.

The tip for the girl is generally 100-150 k.

[FruitNinja]

If you read all the messages that followed you would see that my clues were enough for someone else to find both places and he then went on to name one. These places are still there. Read the posts and you will discover it all. Saigon is hotter than hell if you know where to look.And why should we "follow clues?" Report where the place is. We all know that mongering is fun. So your report had no substance. What's the point man? Might as well say something like "I got a BJ. " Well great for you! I thought we were here to share info not play "clue. " And I find it very hard to believe that local authorities read these pages looking to shut down hot toks. I'm sure they know what's going on from boots on the ground or locals that call the police. Anyway. Good mongering to you.

[Mogwai]

Just a tip guys for prices at hot tocs BJ places.

The price is generally 100-150 k for shared rooms.

And 150-200 k for private room.

The tip for the girl is generally 100-150 k.Thanks, that's good info. I knew I paid too much.

[Wendella]

And why should we "follow clues?" Report where the place is. We all know that mongering is fun. So your report had no substance. What's the point man? Might as well say something like "I got a BJ. " Well great for you! I thought we were here to share info not play "clue. " And I find it very hard to believe that local authorities read these pages looking to shut down hot toks. I'm sure they know what's going on from boots on the ground or locals that call the police. Anyway. Good mongering to you.FN, I think in this case if you go back and read the forum around that time, you will see that in the posts after the clues, someone did go and post the address anyway. Sorry I don't remember the exact address but it was on Bui Vien, and you'll find it if you just go back and read. Sidtip explained his feelings about why he did it that way, and from what he said it was both because and also to make the sharing a bit fun. As you said, like a game. He's the type of guy who, if someone PM'd him saying they couldn't find the clues, he probably woud have just told them via PM.

About whether authorities read things here, I have no idea. I don't see why it would be hard to believe. In this city, so many places have been shut down. The district 1 bar scene has been nearly eliminated. Are they finding out by internet? Probably not in those cases, because the local cops knew where those places were already. But amongst the locals, discretion is always the rule. It could be that the way it works is that, if a place becomes too popular it gets to be too noticeable, and that's when the cops pull the plug. So maybe it's not cops reading the forum directly, maybe it's cops responding to the place being much too noticeable in the community, which has happened partly because of its being popularized through the forum.

Anyway, Sidtip wasn't being a dick, he came to the forum with his info very much in the spirit of sharing and also, something not too common here, fun.

I do know that there are some members who fit the description you give, but Sidtip just isn't like that.

One of my favorites is the tourist type who comes here, gets taken to some hidden place that a driver took him to, has a great experience that he reports in detail, and comes on here after he's left the country to tell us this. Then when you ask him where it is, he doesn't remember, he didn't get the address. He gives details that are useless (it was a narrow street, it was a few blocks after a bridge, there was a Vietcombank ATM a few doors down, but I can't remember how far away exactly, it was dark, etc etc.).

[GoEast]

Dear friends,

This is my first trip to Asia and I am so overwhelmed by all the differences in culture etc that In totally lost orientation. I have even difficulties to cross a street and my search for girls has, despite all the reports here, being not successful. I am really keen to test a blowjob place so if anyone would have then time tonite or tomorrow afternoon / evening to make a joint excursion I would be really grateful. And yeah, I am not an undercover James Bond guy or something loke that. As you can see in the reports I am usually hunting in Eastern Europe!

Cheers

[Mogwai]

Dear friends,

This is my first trip to Asia and I am so overwhelmed by all the differences in culture etc that In totally lost orientation. I have even difficulties to cross a street and my search for girls has, despite all the reports here, being not successful. I am really keen to test a blowjob place so if anyone would have then time tonite or tomorrow afternoon / evening to make a joint excursion I would be really grateful. And yeah, I am not an undercover James Bond guy or something loke that. As you can see in the reports I am usually hunting in Eastern Europe!

CheersI can imagine that Saigon is a real culture shock if this is your first time here, LOL! Thailand might have been a better choice for you.

I'm not in Saigon at the moment but it is really not that hard to find a hot tóc. For example: write down 'Nguyên Phi Khanh' on a piece of paper (or on your phone if it can handle the spelling), show it to a taxi driver and off you go. Let him stop at the beginning of the street (he doesn't need to know where you're going) and start walking. It's not really a long street and the hot tócs are easy to spot because, well... most of them have a sign that says 'hot tóc'.

If you're too shy or afraid to enter one of these places then don't worry. There is often sitting a man or woman outside who will wave at you and invite you in.

[D Cups]

Dear friends,

This is my first trip to Asia and I am so overwhelmed by all the differences in culture etc that In totally lost orientation. I have even difficulties to cross a street and my search for girls has, despite all the reports here, being not successful. I am really keen to test a blowjob place so if anyone would have then time tonite or tomorrow afternoon / evening to make a joint excursion I would be really grateful. And yeah, I am not an undercover James Bond guy or something loke that. As you can see in the reports I am usually hunting in Eastern Europe!

CheersGE, most hot tocs will not do BJ but you might get a HJ. Of course Benny's is one of the exceptions. Search Benny's in this forum and take a taxi there. I've always had a good time there but none of the Benny's girls will go to your hotel. I must've tried ten times but was never successful. Now I just go to PI and Thailand. Most all of those girls are BJ friendly.

[Mogwai]

GE, most hot tocs will not do BJ but you might get a HJ. So I was lucky to get a BJ both times I went to Nguyên Phi Khanh?
I thought massage parlors were HJ only (and sometimes a BJ if you're lucky) but that you can almost be certain to get a BJ in a hot toc.

[D Cups]

So I was lucky to get a BJ both times I went to Nguyn Phi Khanh?
I thought massage parlors were HJ only (and sometimes a BJ if you're lucky) but that you can almost be certain to get a BJ in a hot toc.Congratulations! That must be one of the exceptions. I've never been to that one.

[McPaul]

Of the spots on NPK is Blow-and-Go, from my experience.

Granted, most of that experience is pre-austerity measures (in HCM, about a year ago).

But actually I think I did pop in to one of them a few months ago and it was the same.

(Just be careful not to either over-tip or get scammed on the price, as is common).

There are about 3 of them on the right side, and a couple on the left. I find that I used to.

End up in the last one down (yellow sign on the left I think?) the street because it was.

My last chance to test my nerve after balking at the earlier ones on the right!

[Sidtip]

Anyway, Sidtip wasn't being a dick, he came to the forum with his info very much in the spirit of sharing and also, something not too common here, fun.

I do know that there are some members who fit the description you give, but Sidtip just isn't like that.

One of my favorites is the tourist type who comes here, gets taken to some hidden place that a driver took him to, has a great experience that he reports in detail, and comes on here after he's left the country to tell us this. Then when you ask him where it is, he doesn't remember, he didn't get the address. He gives details that are useless (it was a narrow street, it was a few blocks after a bridge, there was a Vietcombank ATM a few doors down, but I can't remember how far away exactly, it was dark, etc etc.).Thanks Wendella,

I think some people miss the point sometimes. A lot of people come on here asking for addresses and stuff and you will find some on this site. But part of the fun is also the hunt. I am still in touch with so many of the girls I meet and I don't want them to suffer any problems because I post their addresses on this site. My posts are mostly to show that Saigon is an amazing place and there is plenty of fun to be had if you look around. Some people come on here and say it's slow and boring. They are so wrong. All you need to do is pound the streets and follow the clues. There are stunning girls everywhere and there are places offering a lot of fun. Go out and explore and find them FN and you will have a lot more fun than getting a taxi to a place for a simple blowjob and then a taxi home again.

Yes, there are better places. Yes, Thailand is fun. Yes, Cambodia is cheap. But these cities don't have anything that you can't find in Vietnam. You just need to look.

One little Thai experience that I can't stop thinking about since I got home. I met a girl in a bar. A working girl playing pool with her "brother" and "work mate". Anyway she knew I was interested because I stared at her bending over the table for an hour and she kept coming over for a chat between shots and we touched arms and hands. She said when her brother and friend left I should follow them all and she would meet me in another bar once they got in a taxi. I followed and we went into another bar. She was drunk because her group had bought a bottle of Scotch and she had drunk her fair share. So we were in this bad that didn't have lady drinks and she didn't need them anyway and we cuddled and touched and her bra came off and we touched and cuddled and got the waitress to join in the cuddles and touches until finally she forced me to go home with her. She already had a pocketful of money from me and I said she could just leave with it but she wanted to fuck. So we went back to the hotel and I got to try something new. She got me on the bed and started sucking my cock and then licking my butt and forcing her tongue inside it. She was extreme. Then came the good part. We lay beside each other and I started rubbing her. One finger inside then two. Then 3 then she said try 4 which I did. Then she said try 5.

And I did. And then OMG I kept going and I put my whole hand inside her. I'm not a big dude so its not a huge hand but OMG it felt amazing. Its tight and hot and wet and you can feel this part that makes her cum so easily. We used lube and put it back in a few times because she was as amazed at me that we did it and she wanted to see how it felt in different places. It hurts if you keep your hand straight and touch deep inside so just keep your hand in a ball. I can't stop thinking about it. We are still in touch now that I'm home and she sends me pics of her sexy butt and with her finger in the hole. She insists I come back and fuck her in the ass and I probably will. I met her the night before I was flying out. Such shit timing. Please respect girls and don't try to get your fist inside them but if a girl wants it I think I can feel good for them as well as for us. I had been inside her before I put my fist in her and she was not loose. She was slim and in her 20's. The reason I noticed her was because she dressed like an hot hot hot office girl and she runs a small company, so she is not a total working girl although she acts like one in bed. She might just be my most perfect girl yet. But I probably say that about all of them.

[Fast Eddie 48]

GE, most hot tocs will not do BJ but you might get a HJ. Of course Benny's is one of the exceptions. Search Benny's in this forum and take a taxi there. I've always had a good time there but none of the Benny's girls will go to your hotel. I must've tried ten times but was never successful. Now I just go to PI and Thailand. Most all of those girls are BJ friendly.To the Cups.

I got BBBJ in 2 of the NPK massage place on my trip to HMC 2 yr ago clean place with just a curtain and bed service is better than in Benny cost is more the girl is younger, I think it was 280 k back then they want to paid first I told them after they want to charge me more after I just drop 300 k on the desk and walk out.

Fast eddie 48.

[McPaul]

You're solid enough in my book, a man of few words, but also few moments wasted.

And your intel? I'd say pretty accurate.

In fact, the walkaway price may be a bit higher today (see the inflation spiel a few weeks back).

But that's to be taken in your stride. A beer isn't the same price as it was 10 years ago, is it?

So why should a shag? Or a BBJ?

I usually take the same tack as Eddie in these BnG's. Best to go in Commando! - go alone in the afternoon.

On your first visit don't betray sheepishness in your Body Language upon the approach. They can see you thru.

The tinted glass! Move about solidly and with purpose (this kind of advice works well in any endeavor my friends).

Once you've ascertained your venue is legit, walk right in like you're Norm from Cheers. Hmmm, maybe a bad.

Example. LOL.

Walk in like you are their favorite customer. They will treat you according to your BL if you sell it right. In the room.

However, is when it often can go wrong. Perhaps she impressed you with her (fill in this part with your own lascivious proclivities).

You've released your tension!

Unfortunately, you are now very vulnerable to tip demands. And if you're like me, you give her 200 k for her dedicated.

Customer service.

When you come back down, hopefully wearing a sheepish yet kingly grin, go up the counter and give 200 k more.

But if she doesn't squeeze you for tip upstairs. See Eddie's post.

But either way= Not more than 500 should be spent for the whole deal, unless there were amazing special services.

Ideally 300 k, but these days I feel like cheap Charles if I go below 4.


To the Cups.

I got BBBJ in 2 of the NPK massage place on my trip to HMC 2 yr ago clean place with just a curtain and bed service is better than in Benny cost is more the girl is younger, I think it was 280 k back then they want to paid first I told them after they want to charge me more after I just drop 300 k on the desk and walk out.

Fast eddie 48.

[Muzungufotsy]

Following the instructions given by Macpaul went to NPK by myself mid afternoon and checked one of the BJ places. Mamasan tried to push me for 500 k all included which I declined. We finally agreed 200+200 and I actually paid everything at the end.

There was a Vietnamese guy at the time who was paying 200 k at the counter before taking the girl upstairs and mamasan saw I knew how much he paid.

That probably helped with the negotiation. I actually wonder how much locals pay.

Anyway one girl grabbed me to go upstairs then we entered the room and she took my shorts off once I was laying on the back.

She had big tits which I sucked heavily she took off her panty so I could play with her pussy.

Her BJ was very nice very noisy she even provided some ass rimming which I enjoyed. At one point she put her pussy in my face so we ended up in 69 position.

I m usually long to come so the whole thing probably lasts about 40/45 mn.

I wonder if it s possible to fuck these girls and how much it would be then.

Will come back. Nice experience in the center of the city.

If any member wants to meet I m in town until the end of the month.

[Muzungufotsy]

After my first memorable experience I couldn't wait to go back to another BJ place in this street. I entered the premises was quoted 200+200 and tried to push for 150+150. And it worked hurrah!

So do locals pay 200 k including everything? I start thinking so.

This time I took my time and choose a girl I really liked.

Petite nice tits small ass. Nice smile. Promising.

We went to the room I laid down on the table she removed my shorts then removed her bras and panties and started giving me energetic BJ.

I tried to insert my fingers simultaneously in her ass and in her pussy and she didn't say anything so I spent all the time fingering her in both holes and came by grabbing her left tit with the other hand. Delightful.

Her service was a bit mechanical but still OK.

I entered another BJ place after this and was quoted 400 not 500 k. Probably can be bargained to 300 k too there.

Since Benny s is closed at this time this sounds the cheapest option in the center so far.

If anybody knows better please tell me I'd like to test it.

[CRLuverGuy]

Anyone knows if there are hoctoc places near the old Benny's, now that it is gone. I recently went by and don't see the two places anymore. I used to have some fun and nice take outs from the area. I am willing to share any info if anyone has some too.

Thanks in advance.

[LuvAsianTang]

GE, most hot tocs will not do BJ but you might get a HJ. Of course Benny's is one of the exceptions. Search Benny's in this forum and take a taxi there. I've always had a good time there but none of the Benny's girls will go to your hotel. I must've tried ten times but was never successful. Now I just go to PI and Thailand. Most all of those girls are BJ friendly.Sorry DCups, but I disagree, there are many hot tocs out there that give everything from just a hair cut and ear cleaning up to FS you just have to look around. Hell I don't even take taxis any more, unless I'm in a hurry, because you just breeze by some great hot tocs. I just hop a bus to a well known area, like out by the airport and use my shanks mares to do my searching of hot tocs. They are all over every district in ho chi minh. I can actually say that I had 3 FS hot tocs with in 5 minutes walk from my hotel on truong son near the airport during my last and very recent trip. All 3 had hot little 20 yr olds too and were 800,000 vd all in for full service. One did me so good I had to rest the next 3 hours before I could venture out for another (god bless viagra) . I love vietnam for several reasons, one of them being the food, cheap and good, the friendliness of the people, and the readily available hot wet young pussy.

If you are a well posted paying member of this board feel free to pm me for the addresses, and by well posted I mean some field reports that are helpful to other members and not just bragging about getting free pussy or asking where there are places to deposit your seed. And no I don't charge for this service like another well known a** hat on this forum.

Happy pooning, LAT.

[AmericanThief]

Tang is right except for the part about taking taxis in a hurry. Taxis only slow you down in this mad traffic.

[D Cups]

Sorry DCups, but I disagree, there are many hot tocs out there that give everything from just a hair cut and ear cleaning up to FS you just have to look around. Hell I don't even take taxis any more, unless I'm in a hurry, because you just breeze by some great hot tocs. I just hop a bus to a well known area, like out by the airport and use my shanks mares to do my searching of hot tocs. They are all over every district in ho chi minh. I can actually say that I had 3 FS hot tocs with in 5 minutes walk from my hotel on truong son near the airport during my last and very recent trip. All 3 had hot little 20 yr olds too and were 800,000 vd all in for full service. One did me so good I had to rest the next 3 hours before I could venture out for another (god bless viagra) . I love vietnam for several reasons, one of them being the food, cheap and good, the friendliness of the people, and the readily available hot wet young pussy.

If you are a well posted paying member of this board feel free to pm me for the addresses, and by well posted I mean some field reports that are helpful to other members and not just bragging about getting free pussy or asking where there are places to deposit your seed. And no I don't charge for this service like another well known a** hat on this forum.

Happy pooning, LAT.Good to know. Thanks, LAT. I don't know if I will be coming to Vietnam again anytime soon but I will PM you. .

[FunMan13]

I have visited HCMC 3 times, the last time was in April 2009. I went to Benny's many times. I used to pay 200 k up front (which I was told) and tipped the girls another 100 k which they did not expect. After reading the last 20+ pages of this thread, I realized that I was over-charged. But this thread in those days had very info on hoc tocs. I must say that I enjoyed every session. All the girls were very pretty, very nice and friendly and would not stop until I popped, no matter how long it took.

Anyway, I will be coming back to HCMC in the first week of February, staying for 5 days. I am looking forward to visiting hoc tocs again. I hope LE will ease up by then. In the mean time, I will keep reading this thread for new intel. Brothers, keep up the good work.

[Mogwai]

I can actually say that I had 3 FS hot tocs with in 5 minutes walk from my hotel on truong son near the airport during my last and very recent trip.
Is the area around the airport a nice place to stay? With a lot of restaurants and coffee shops (with Western style coffee)?

[LuvAsianTang]

Tang is right except for the part about taking taxis in a hurry. Taxis only slow you down in this mad traffic.I do believe that there is a definite pecking order in traffic: first the Mercedes, then big trucks then buses then taxis then all other cars and minivans then motorbikes and bikes then the lowly pedestrian, in that order. No one will fuck with a Mercedes because there may be the driver of a rich and powerful man behind the wheel, trucks just push through traffic like fat Albert in a crowded park, as do buses, blaring their distinct sounding horns just to let you know that they are going to crush you like the bug you are as the motor bike riders look upon them in fear. Annoying taxis thread their way thru traffic honking and veering away from buses and trucks but thru hordes of motorbikes and pedestrians who look upon them with disdain and fear. Motorbikes, oh my god motorbikes, just go in a steady flow like a river of crocodiles, tail to nose in hunt of the lowly pedestrian who walks slowly and diligently thru the river of Mercedes, trucks, buses, taxis, and croco-bikes hoping to live long enough to see the other side of the street just one more time in their pitiful lives. Someone Please correct me on the order if I'm wrong.

Thats why I prefer to ride the bus in saigon and watch the river part as we saunter thru the rest of the insignificant others without fear.

And besides, sometimes I get to talk with a cute little viet college student who is desperate to practice her English on a real English speaking foreigner. I've actually gotten a few cell numbers that way from really cute girls, on my way to search for the hot tocs.

I do sin cerely enjoy vietnam. LAT.

[CRLuverGuy]

LAT.

I always rent a scooter from the local hotel where ever city I travel to. It is usually very cheap 80 k a day or 1 mil a month. Just ask the security or receptionist. I find traveling on scooter relaxing and enjoyable. Yea sometimes it's mad crazy dash during rush hours mornings and evenings but if you are patience and just follow the crowd instead of trying to beat them seems to work best for me. I been traveling this way for over five years in all cities of VN. No I don't have a VN license. I do have a US motorcycle endorsement as well as several bikes upto 1800 CC. I have been stopped on several occasions and just politely smile and showed a 100 k and I'm on my way again.

Mongering and sightseeing this way is definitely the most enjoyable way to travel. I definitely do not care to do xe om. Walk scooter or taxi are best options for me.

I wished there was a meetup for mongers to share some day. Might be fun.

[LuvAsianTang]

LAT.

I always rent a scooter from the local hotel where ever city I travel to. It is usually very cheap 80 k a day or 1 mil a month. Just ask the security or receptionist. I find traveling on scooter relaxing and enjoyable. Yea sometimes it's mad crazy dash during rush hours mornings and evenings but if you are patience and just follow the crowd instead of trying to beat them seems to work best for me. I been traveling this way for over five years in all cities of VN. No I don't have a VN license. I do have a US motorcycle endorsement as well as several bikes upto 1800 CC. I have been stopped on several occasions and just politely smile and showed a 100 k and I'm on my way again.

Mongering and sightseeing this way is definitely the most enjoyable way to travel. I definitely do not care to do xe om. Walk scooter or taxi are best options for me.

I wished there was a meetup for mongers to share some day. Might be fun.I agree with you and I have driven motorbike in saigon, and I'm considering renting one next time I'm there. I was a bit worried about the license but 100 k is doable its only 5 dollars after all. When I'm in thailand and there is a police stop happening I just stare straight forward and drive by ignoring them, ha ha it works every time. They are after the easy buck and can't be bothered actually chasing someone down just to make 10 bucks when they can just wait for the next 3 easy ones.

I have met several brethren in thailand and the phils and had a great time sharing info and bar hopping. Vietnam is a different kind of mongering place being that it's kind of underground and you can go to jail if you get busted, and get deported if you live there. Most of the mongers who live and work there are paranoid because if this, so a meet up for mongers would probably not include any expats. I would be up for a meet however, if we are there at the same time. But then I have more balls than brains ha ha. Any arrangements would have to be made through private messages though. I won't be going back for a while so this will be back burner until I make plans again.

Later LAT.

[AmericanThief]

Renting a motorcycle is no big deal, but two warnings.

1st. Carry two wallets. First wallet is your main wallet with everything. This is hidden away from police somehow.

2nd wallet has 200,000 vnd. This is the wallet you pull out when stopped by the mafia police. This is the typical fine for everything. 200,000 and you're on your way. Don't let them catch you with a load of dollars and dongs. They will [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) you and take your bike.

The other warning. A lot of rental bikes get stolen and then you're responsible to pay for the bike. Sometimes I wonder if the guy renting the bikes has another guy go and steal it. Last night I saw a guy steal a bike right in front of a very safe and crowded cafe. He must have had a key. Now the foreigner guy has to pay 11 million dong for the bike. I don't know. It seemed sketchy. Just be sure to always use parking lots and ticket services. Never leave you bike alone for 1 minute. Make sure there is always a guard and always get a ticket.

I fucked a barely legal girl last week. Short, chubby, brown skin, glasses, multiples, this is really what you get for free if you're over 30. Not complaining, but LAT do yo live in VN?

[CRLuverGuy]

AT,

You are spot on with moto driving and wallets. Exactly how I manga around the cities. Only carry a few hundred thousands and smaller bills in the show off wallet. Otherwise I don't carry extra cash on me but instead hidden on my moto or bags.

Are you living there now? I will be back to HCMC after holidays and before tet. Hoping to find new adventures with hoctoc takeouts or similar. I used to go to Benny's area airport and D1 hotels area. Any suggestions for daytime takeouts ST regulars that are full service fun? My old contacts are gone now and it's been over a year since I last had fun there. Next beer on me.

[TomSf]

I agree with you and I have driven motorbike in saigon, and I'm considering renting one next time I'm there. I was a bit worried about the license but 100 k is doable its only 5 dollars after all. When I'm in thailand and there is a police stop happening I just stare straight forward and drive by ignoring them, ha ha it works every time. They are after the easy buck and can't be bothered actually chasing someone down just to make 10 bucks when they can just wait for the next 3 easy ones.

I have met several brethren in thailand and the phils and had a great time sharing info and bar hopping. Vietnam is a different kind of mongering place being that it's kind of underground and you can go to jail if you get busted, and get deported if you live there. Most of the mongers who live and work there are paranoid because if this, so a meet up for mongers would probably not include any expats. I would be up for a meet however, if we are there at the same time. But then I have more balls than brains ha ha. Any arrangements would have to be made through private messages though. I won't be going back for a while so this will be back burner until I make plans again.

Later LAT.About going to jail. When I was in District 5 this year I saw most massage places have a window on the door. Any cop can walk by and see what is going on. A BJ was it. But it was very visible. I don't understand why they don't have hidden rooms like in China where a wall moves to another room where we are safer. My next trip next year I will request a more hidden room if possible or anything safer. Does not have to be nice but I would rather be in an uncomfortable room free from view than risking trouble. I will say that all the hot toc places where not the same and some where safer than others. But you don't know until you pick the girl and go to the room. I want to be a little safer next time.

[PlayHo]

I took a cab and the driver dropped me off at NPK and Huyen. There are two hot toc's at the corner.

A guy took me in. Nothing fancy about the place. There were 5 girls who hardly spoke English and wrote 200 in a paper and said 500 total with tips. We agreed to 400 (200+200). I prepaid 400 and it was very stupid.

The girl took me in and signed me to change. I was butt naked and waited some time for her to reappear.

She came back and asked to put the pants on and lie down. She lowered her dress and dropped my pants and started to hand job me.

I signed showing mouth and she said something in Viet like problem in her nose or lips something and refused.

Once she cummed me, she cleaned and left. While I was waiting for a massage she came back and asked to dress up.

I asked for a massage but at this point I was pissed and decided to leave.

NPK doesn't look like a safe area to walk.

[AmericanThief]

AT,

Any suggestions for daytime takeouts ST regulars that are full service fun? No, this is a problem. The industry here doesn't cater for daytime. Girls work about 8 pm to 6 am. While its not impossible to find daytime action, your choices will be limited. The sexy girls come out at night.

[LuvAsianTang]

AmericanThief,

Right at the moment I'm staying in the USA. I live mostly on airlines flying from one mongering venue to another, I'm retired now and living la vida loca (the crazy life).

Happy mongering, LAT.

[JswdJswd]

Hit Benny's 3 times on my recent HCMC visit. No hassles and easy to find. All in all a better experience than NPK st #84 only reason being it's closer to where I stay and no price haggling. Some girls better than others.Went yesterday. All seemed to be range of 6 looks but service was strong and good. Prince including tip was 400,000.

[MutantChicken]

Went yesterday. All seemed to be range of 6 looks but service was strong and good. Prince including tip was 400000.Again as I mentioned there is a place and girl in d10 she is known as the wonder tongue. Looks 7. Price 100+150 tip ie 250 k all in.

[JswdJswd]

Went to Levy's District 1 on the main tourist street. Girls were pretty but no service except a standard massage available. Wanted 200,000 plus 200,000 tip.

[Don1010ho]

Went yesterday. All seemed to be range of 6 looks but service was strong and good. Prince including tip was 400,000.Hi JswdJswd, I will be in HCM next couple weeks, can you up date the address of Benny's pleased. If I don't mistake, it's 110 of DBP, and on the other side of the bridge right?

[CRLuverGuy]

110 Benny is correct address. I stopped by this week around noon and only had about 4 girls inside and 2 local guys hanging outside. Girls were 5-7 at best young 20's. 400 k total for BBBJ 30 min or so. Forgot the name but mine was best looking and inexperienced so it took a bit. She kept stopping and going were mechanical didn't really want to do it. I felt for her. Roaming was allowed and very wet. She tried and didn't give up so made it worthwhile.

[Don1010ho]

110 Benny is correct address. I stopped by this week around noon and only had about 4 girls inside and 2 local guys hanging outside. Girls were 5-7 at best young 20's. 400 k total for BBBJ 30 min or so. Forgot the name but mine was best looking and inexperienced so it took a bit. She kept stopping and going were mechanical didn't really want to do it. I felt for her. Roaming was allowed and very wet. She tried and didn't give up so made it worthwhile.Hi CRLuverGuy, Thanks for the address it's 110 Dien Bien Phu?

[CRLuverGuy]

Hi CRLuverGuy, Thanks for the address it's 110 Dien Bien Phu?Yes take DBP away from nearest traffic circle towards district 1, ie. Cho Ben Thanh. Stay on right side after crossing bridge about 3 blocks on right. Large white number on door 110 and Benny. You have to slow down or you will miss it. It's small you can drive inside the gate or park outside. Otherwise taxi a few doors down and walk. They usually have food and other vendors in front.

[Don1010ho]

Yes take DBP away from nearest traffic circle towards district 1, ie. Cho Ben Thanh. Stay on right side after crossing bridge about 3 blocks on right. Large white number on door 110 and Benny. You have to slow down or you will miss it. It's small you can drive inside the gate or park outside. Otherwise taxi a few doors down and walk. They usually have food and other vendors in front.Thanks for the info.

[Gypsie King]

For those who want to go to Ben ny's using a taxi, DBP is a very long street and numbering is specific to a district. So there are several 110 DBP in HCMC.

The full address to give to the taxi is 110 DBP, Binh Thanh district.

[CRLuverGuy]

The same place on DBP. The old lady mgr will show you a piece of paper with 200 k + 200 k. She will then ask you for 400 k upfront. Just say no 200 k now and 200 k after. I just drop 200 k on counter and then walk in the door to tables. She just smiles and reminds the next girl up to remember to collect your tip. This time I didn't choose because I saw who was next. She was a hot 8 or 9 name Lan. She was tall 5-5 by Vn standard and about 100 lbs. She didn't waste anytime with chit chat in the barber chairs which is first rooms enter. She asked if I wanted to just go upstairs and relax. So up I went to the far stall. She dims the light and takes off my clothes. She takes off her bottoms and leer bra but pulls up her shirt. Wow amazing view in the dim lights and I can feel she had a hard body and the tightest pussy you can imagine. We seemed hit it off so pretty much all the roaming was allowed as well as kissing all over me. However I did not want to partake in lip to lip service because I'm sure it has been all over others. She seemed to enjoyed herself while giving me one of the best BBBJ and deep throat. She had to catch her breath I think because she was giving Os while I was fingering deep inside her. She smiled and blushed then continued on me. I spent well over 45 min with her. She took it all in like a champ and didn't miss a drop. She even continued through the climax and beyond nonstop. Afterwards she cleaned me up and asked me to rest a little bit. I tip her 200 k and another 50 k for water and short massage at the end. She was happy to please. I would repeat just for her. She would not do take out but maybe later as we get to know more on other visits. Anyone have other places around the area of DBP to share?

[Lowkey1]

I am coming in town March 11 and know little of the area. I heard it is broken up into number districts like 1 2 3 and 4? If that is the case is 1 the best night life type place? Where would you suggest to go where the action is close and still be able to get a nice hotel, which any recommendation would be great?

[CRLuverGuy]

Try booking.com search for two stars hotel in district 1 under $30 a night. Three stars hotels may not let a Vn girl into your room and if so you may have to pay for an extra room. Try Pham Ngu Lao aka backpacker street and area much action here all daylong.


I am coming in town March 11 and know little of the area. I heard it is broken up into number districts like 1 2 3 and 4? If that is the case is 1 the best night life type place? Where would you suggest to go where the action is close and still be able to get a nice hotel, which any recommendation would be great?

[SteelBaton]

Not sure why this is in this thread and not the Hotel thread, but...See my post earlier today. I ordered a girl via WeChat the other night at 9:00 pm from the Park Hyatt (5 star). Following a phone call from the front desk, she was in my bed without me ever leaving the room. Supposedly the front desks will let the girl come up if its before 10:00 pm. Not sure what happens if the girl stays the night, but I rarely am after that.


Try booking.com search for two stars hotel in district 1 under $30 a night. Three stars hotels may not let a Vn girl into your room and if so you may have to pay for an extra room. Try Pham Ngu Lao aka backpacker street and area much action here all daylong.

[SteelBaton]

This was my first experience at a Hot Toc and it was pretty damn good I thought. An agent that I work with had set me up with a girl for a Thursday afternoon around 2:00 pm. She was billed as 18, thin with large breasts. He told me she had only been in the business 3 days and was very fresh. Well she turned out to be a little chubby for my taste, could barely do a blowjob, wouldn't let me finger her, and barely let me fuck her. I still paid the 1. 0 million ($50) but told the agent that I was going to try some other agent next time because I was unhappy with this experience.

He was clearly disappointed to hear me say this because he quickly offers to take me to a great Hot Toc shop where the girls are terrific and he would pay. Now, I usually don't like just a blow job, I like the full event, but you don't say no to an offer like this if you are an adventurous monger like me. So I jump on the back of his motorbike and we tool around for 15 minutes before stopping at the above address (google it if you want to know where it is). It was 3:30/4:00 pm and there were 4 -6 girls. He encouraged me to pick two. Ok, you're paying! I pick one cute spinner with a nice looking body, maybe 22 yrs old, and then one who was about the same age, a little bigger but with huge tits figuring that squeezing those would be good fun.

They took me upstairs into a room with 5 massage tables divided by curtains. Fortunately there was no one else in the room and they closed the door, showed me a massage table and had me strip down to my boxers which I tried to take off but they said no. I lay face down on the table and the came out with some towels and hand wipes which they used to sanitize my hands and feet. The massage then began with them lightly pounding on my back, legs, arms, etc for maybe 5 minutes. Then came the turn and one of them reached down and pulled my underwear to my knees. I then just took them off. They then handiwiped my whole body with special attention naturally to my cock. The small spinner went down between my legs and began licking and sucking my balls and working her way up the shaft with a fair degree of skill. I closed my eyes and let out a nice moan which had her giggling. Meanwhile the Big Tits began sucking and licking my nipples. It was about this time that I reached my right hand around to pat the ass of Spinner and my left to squeeze the ass of Big Titties when I noticed that both of them had pulled their panties down to their ankles. So I just began rubbing their pussies. They modestly resisted this but shortly I had a finger up each cnut and my dick in the little ones mouth with my mouth was sucking the tits of BT. This was all working out fine!

This and variations of this went on for 20 minutes as I did everything to not blow my load all over one of their faces as they traded off sucking me. The longer it took me the more willing they were to let me do what I wanted with their bodies, obviously hoping that this would have me cum and they could be done. So, naturally I didn't cum and kept getting more action. At one memorable point, by now they both had taken a foot out of their panties so that I could spread their legs apart and get decent penetration with my digits, I had the Spinner with one leg on the ground close to my hip and the other leg up on the table next to us with her tiny cnut gaping open as I stuck my middle finger in until I hit her cervix and rubbed her asshole with my index finger. (this is where I should say that her pussy was dripping wet and I felt her lips quiver and contract as she had a shaking, whimpering orgasam- but actually I don't think she was liking it very much she just was trying to get me to finish) Big Titties is now up on the table with her twat in my face and her lips on my balls. This put me over the edge and I wrapped a leg up over her head pushing her mouth on to my cock as I unloaded a massive hot sticky load with so much force some came out her nose (not really, but it was a load of cum)

So all in all it was a pretty good 40 minutes for free. I don't know how much my agent buddy paid but he likely paid a lot less than I would have. Maybe someone else knows of this place and their prices. I might try this again.

[TomSf]

This was my first experience at a Hot Toc and it was pretty damn good I thought. An agent that I work with had set me up with a girl for a Thursday afternoon around 2:00 pm. She was billed as 18, thin with large breasts. He told me she had only been in the business 3 days and was very fresh. Well she turned out to be a little chubby for my taste, could barely do a blowjob...Wow, great review I will check that place out this November 2015! Thanks.

[LoveTool]

This was my first experience at a Hot Toc and it was pretty damn good I thought. An agent that I work with had set me up with a girl for a Thursday afternoon around 2:00 pm. She was billed as 18, thin with large breasts. He told me she had only been in the business 3 days and was very fresh. Well she turned out to be a little chubby for my taste, could barely do a blowjob, wouldn't let me finger her, and barely let me fuck her. I still paid the 1. 0 million ($50) but told the agent that I was going to try some other agent next time because I was unhappy with this experience.

He was clearly disappointed to hear me say this because he quickly offers to take me to a great Hot Toc shop where the girls are terrific and he would pay. Now, I usually don't like just a blow job, I like the full event, but you don't say no to an offer like this if you are an adventurous monger like me. So I jump on the back of his motorbike and we tool around for 15 minutes before stopping at the above address (google it if you want to know where it is). It was 3:30/4:00 pm and there were 4 -6 girls. He encouraged me to pick two. Ok, you're paying! I pick one cute spinner with a nice looking body, maybe 22 yrs old, and then one who was about the same age, a little bigger but with huge tits figuring that squeezing those would be good fun.

They took me upstairs into a room with 5 massage tables divided by curtains..Is that a photo of one of your girls at this place?

[Diabl222]

Yes take DBP away from nearest traffic circle towards district 1, ie. Cho Ben Thanh. Stay on right side after crossing bridge about 3 blocks on right. Large white number on door 110 and Benny. You have to slow down or you will miss it. It's small you can drive inside the gate or park outside. Otherwise taxi a few doors down and walk. They usually have food and other vendors in front.I walked to 110 Dien Bien Phu and found a restaurant there. I had also read there was another place at 90 Dien Bien Phu but that was also a restaurant. See pics. I must have been in the wrong area. The good news it was only a 10 minute walk or so to NPK where I got good service at #49 and again at #84 the next day.

[AmericanThief]

You went to District 1. Ben Nys is down the road in Binh Thanh district.

[CRLuverGuy]

From NPK head towards DBP. It's one way so you will have to go in opposite direction until you get near the traffic circle which becomes a two way road. From the circle head over the bridge and 110 DBP is about 200 m on your right (about 2 blocks). Look for white number and letters 110 Benny with small gate and entrance. Just don't be shy and head in with confidence like you've been there before.

[Mik Hcmc]

Just to help people out regarding addresses here. It is a little more difficult than back "home".

Addresses here are usually numbers if there is a / then more numbers.

Then you need to look for a "hem" or side street / laneway. More / then more laneways.

Then you get to the street name.

After the streetname is a F with a number or Phuong. This is also known as a "ward" Each district has number of wards, the street you are on may go through more than 1 ward, Each ward has its own numbers starting from 1.

You need to make sure you are in the correct ward / phuong before looking for the correct number.

Its easy enough to see, pretty much every house is a shophouse with its address painted on or printed on the awning above the entry. Just keep cruising along until you hit the correct ward then start looking for the number.

Ben Nys is a prime example of people going to the wrong ward and the right number.

[Sai604]

Went to Levy's District 1 on the main tourist street. Girls were pretty but no service except a standard massage available. Wanted 200,000 plus 200,000 tip.Yes this is very true. But the girls are stunning and most likely have other things going for them. Its an eye opener for first time visiters. The only thing I would go there for is a haircut, not a BJ haircut or a hot toc haircut, an actual legit haircut. I went there knowing that still tried for some play, the them did agree for a 'happy ending" because it was my birthday. But she straight up lied and nothing but an 6/10 massage. And after I gave her 200 k tip "with no extra sirvice" she grabbed another 200 k note from my hand I don't like to nickle and dime these girls but damn.

Anyways we still keep in touch and she posts all these model like photos and hot girl photos of her alone. Typical.

[Yella Man]

Just to help people out regarding addresses here. It is a little more difficult than back "home".

Addresses here are usually numbers if there is a / then more numbers.

Then you need to look for a "hem" or side street / laneway. More / then more laneways.

Then you get to the street name.

After the streetname is a F with a number or Phuong. This is also known as a "ward" Each district has number of wards, the street you are on may go through more than 1 ward, Each ward has its own numbers starting from 1.

You need to make sure you are in the correct ward / phuong before looking for the correct number.

Its easy enough to see, pretty much every house is a shophouse with its address painted on or printed on the awning above the entry. Just keep cruising along until you hit the correct ward then start looking for the number.

Ben Nys is a prime example of people going to the wrong ward and the right number.It looks like I'm in for a treat when I start looking for these places. I'm hoping I can hook up with someone in March who knows the lay of the land so my brain doesn't explode!

YM.

[FunMan13]

Well, I went there at 12:50 and there were about 5-6 girls. I put down 200 k but the MMS insisted that I give her 400 k. She showed me a piece of paper which stated 200 k + 200 k tip pointing to the girl standing next to me who was going to service me. She looked very hot and having read the posts here, I was not worried that I would be short-changed, so I gave her the other 200 k. The girl's name was Tui, about 22-25 yo. She had a pretty face and was always smiling. Her body was slim and well-portioned.

A nice clean-cut white guy came in just after me. I was going to make conversation with him while we sat on the barber chairs in the waiting area but he did not make eye contact so I respected his privacy. Perhaps me being Asian, he thought I was a local. If you are on this board, I would love to see your review.

I won't go into details but her service was very nice and not rushed. Actually I had trouble popping (maybe jet lag or the heat) but she never gave up. She also was very cuddly putting one leg across my body while licking my chest. She had no trouble taking off her bra and lowering her pants. I was very satisfied and gave her a tip which she was very appreciative.

On the way out, I took a good look at the other girls by pretending to see what they were doing and joking with them. One was playing with an iPad, one was eating fish & rice, the rest, yes, you guessed it, they were playing with their mobile phones. Anyway, none of the them looked as good as Tui, not even close. I was very lucky.

By the way, I visited HCMC several times in 2009-2010, and patronized another Hoc Toc (I believe it was the one on #90 Dien Bien Phu) so I knew how to get there by bus. The bus ticket used to cost 3 k. Now it's 6 k, but still very cheap. The bus gets there about as fast as a taxi in HCMC traffic. I took The blue Bus #93 from Ben Thanh Station on Pham Ngu Lao which is just opposite the Backpackers area. Stop the bus as soon as it starts crossing the river (entering Binh Thanh District). You will get off at #82A Dien Bien Phu. Take a short walk in the direction of the traffic to #110. Other buses stopping at this bus stop are #12, 50, 91, 93 & 150.

When you are done and wish to return to the city, cross the main road DBP very carefully (your threat are the motor cyclists, not the cars and trucks). Remember, you are still very weak from your CIM and are still on Cloud Nine. Once across, walk in the direction of the traffic to the bus stop is in front of #47 HBT for Buses #45, 50, 91, 93 & 150. Don't know where #45 came from or what happened to #12.

When I crossed DBP after my session, I saw a real Hoc Toc (barbershop). I got a nice haircut for 50 k (about US $2. 40). Enjoy.

[Fast Eddie 48]

Well, I went there at 12:50 and there were about 5-6 girls. I put down 200 k but the MMS insisted that I give her 400 k. She showed me a piece of paper which stated 200 k + 200 k tip pointing to the girl standing next to me who was going to service me. She looked very hot and having read the posts here, I was not worried that I would be short-changed, so I gave her the other 200 k. The girl's name was Tui, about 22-25 yo. She had a pretty face and was always smiling. Her body was slim and well-portioned.

A nice clean-cut white guy came in just after me. I was going to make conversation with him while we sat on the barber chairs in the waiting area but he did not make eye contact so I respected his privacy. Perhaps me being Asian, he thought I was a local. If you are on this board, I would love to see your review.

I won't go into details but her service was very nice and not rushed. Actually I had trouble popping (maybe jet lag or the heat) but she never gave up. She also was very cuddly putting one leg across my body while licking my chest. She had no trouble taking off her bra and lowering her pants. I was very satisfied and gave her a tip which she was very appreciative.

On the way out, I took a good look at the other girls by pretending to see what they were doing and joking with them. One was playing with an iPad, one was eating fish & rice, the rest, yes, you guessed it, they were playing with their mobile phones. Anyway, none of the them looked as good as Tui, not even close. I was very lucky.

By the way, I visited HCMC several times in 2009-2010, and patronized another Hoc Toc (I believe it was the one on #90 Dien Bien Phu) so I knew how to get there by bus. The bus ticket used to cost 3 k. Now it's 6 k, but still very cheap. The bus gets there about as fast as a taxi in HCMC traffic. I took The blue Bus #93 from Ben Thanh Station on Pham Ngu Lao which is just opposite the Backpackers area. Stop the bus as soon as it starts crossing the river (entering Binh Thanh District). You will get off at #82A Dien Bien Phu. Take a short walk in the direction of the traffic to #110. Other buses stopping at this bus stop are #12, 50, 91, 93 & 150.

When you are done and wish to return to the city, cross the main road DBP very carefully (your threat are the motor cyclists, not the cars and trucks). Remember, you are still very weak from your CIM and are still on Cloud Nine. Once across, walk in the direction of the traffic to the bus stop is in front of #47 HBT for Buses #45, 50, 91, 93 & 150. Don't know where #45 came from or what happened to #12.

When I crossed DBP after my session, I saw a real Hoc Toc (barbershop). I got a nice haircut for 50 k (about US $2. 40). Enjoy.To Funman.

Don't cross DBP on foot too many traffic they don't slow down for no one even the local don't do this, I don't know why you don't take a motor bike back to Binh Thanh for 10 k is your life worth more than a few cents.

Fast eddie 48.

[FunMan13]

Fast Eddie,

I traveled extensively in Asia and never have a problem crossing busy streets. You just have to know the technique. Best to follow a local. My reluctance with taking motorbike taxi or Xe Om is the hassle of haggling with them. They always quote me a ridiculous price and we have to haggle. I prefer to just walk to take the bus. I guess I am very impatient. This also happens to me in AC.

By the way, what are the current prices? Say, Pham Ngu Lao to Ben Ny? PNL to the Rex-Intercontinental hotels area? I have been quotes as high a 60 k for this short trip even though I am Asian, I must look like a dumb tourist! I succumbed to 30 k.

Thanks.

[GrassCutter2]

Went looking for a hot toc yesterday and today. On a small side detour from the wife I checked in at one to see if they do indeed do extras. Spoke to one of the girls. Ly. She assure me they do. Went back in afternoon booked a VIp room to assure discretion. Upon entering tried to talk about extras. Got shut down very quickly. Told definitely none of they here. Left and was quizzed from manager. I said my misunderstanding and left. Found an address on another site and went today over past Cho Benh Thanh. As I entered very sexily dressed girls all around. Chose a girl they said. I chose The sexy girl next door. Paid for 90 minutes VIP but let them know I could stay only for 40 minutes. Had me lay on my back and spread my legs. (I had on the supplied shorts) Good start I thought.

When I suggested anything even slightly sexual was shut down. They don't do this here she assured me. I let it go on with her massaging very softly my legs. The old fella rise to full attention but got none from her.

She asked if I wanted to turn over to do my back. I said she could do my thighs and bum but shut down again.

So I stayed as I was and she continued massaging and rubbing all around my rock hard. With no satisfaction. . I tried to entice her with 500000 vnd tip but nothing. Needless to say I walked out slightly frustrated. .

Need help to find out where an English guy can go to get some satisfaction without the stress. .

Cheers

[FunMan13]

Exactly what are you looking for? A hoc Toc is only a BBBJ place, unlike a Massage parlor. For our "needs" neither can be found in District 1 unless you live here and know the places. If you have limited time and are new to the city, my suggestion is to go to another hotel (to avoid embarrassment) and ask their doorman to get you on a motorbike taxi to a HT or MP. Ask him to negotiate the fare, should be 30,000 d. Be sure to tip the doorman. Good luck.


Went looking for a hot toc yesterday and today. On a small side detour from the wife I checked in at one to see if they do indeed do extras. Spoke to one of the girls. Ly. She assure me they do. Went back in afternoon booked a VIp room to assure discretion. Upon entering tried to talk about extras. Got shut down very quickly. Told definitely none of they here. Left and was quizzed from manager. I said my misunderstanding and left. Found an address on another site and went today over past Cho Benh Thanh. As I entered very sexily dressed girls all around. Chose a girl they said. I chose The sexy girl next door. Paid for 90 minutes VIP but let them know I could stay only for 40 minutes. Had me lay on my back and spread my legs. (I had on the supplied shorts) Good start I thought.

When I suggested anything even slightly sexual was shut down. They don't do this here she assured me. I let it go on with her massaging very softly my legs. The old fella rise to full attention but got none from her.

She asked if I wanted to turn over to do my back. I said she could do my thighs and bum but shut down again.

So I stayed as I was and she continued massaging and rubbing all around my rock hard. With no satisfaction. . I tried to entice her with 500000 vnd tip but nothing. Needless to say I walked out slightly frustrated. .

Need help to find out where an English guy can go to get some satisfaction without the stress. .

Cheers

[Strong Bad]

What's the lighting like at hot tocs and blow and go, and cafe? Is the lighting bright enough for you to examine their vagina before you dine?

[Kenter]

Need help to find out where an English guy can go to get some satisfaction without the stress.

CheersI had plenty of teasing from massage girls and they wanted stupid amounts of money for anything else so I went to Nguyen Phi Khanh street and went into a hoc toc where the girls are dressed in short orange dresses and they will sort.

You out 400,000 vnd includes the table. Went there 3 times and no issues.

[AmericanThief]

What's the lighting like at hot tocs and blow and go, and cafe? Is the lighting bright enough for you to examine their vagina before you dine?Really? Examination of the vagina? And I'm supposed to believe this is a serious question? Let's say the lighting is good enough for an examination. How are you going to proceed? Do you really think the girl is willing to spread her legs like some Japanese Porn? How is this not trolling? A Vietnamese girl? Examine her vagina.

[AmericanThief]

What's the lighting like at hot tocs and blow and go, and cafe? Is the lighting bright enough for you to examine their vagina before you dine?Is this lighting bright enough for you to examine their vagina before you dine?

[Strong Bad]

One of the main reasons why I would go to a hot toc is to eat pussy. From what I have heard and read online, some hot toc places, the girls go all nude and do allow you to touch and examine them.


Really? Examination of the vagina? And I'm supposed to believe this is a serious question? Let's say the lighting is good enough for an examination. How are you going to proceed? Do you really think the girl is willing to spread her legs like some Japanese Porn? How is this not trolling? A Vietnamese girl? Examine her vagina.

[Strong Bad]

I hope this is the right section for SW and moto bike girls. Anyways,

Generally what's the quality of moto bikes girls and SW? A 4 to 7? I don't need stunners really, especially when I am just down to bang, cause when I am banging I could really care less what her face or my face looks like. I just prefer skinny girls with some tits and ass, you know some eye candy. I am not looking for marriage so as long as she is not horrendously ugly I am happy.

[SoloTravels]

Fast Eddie,

I traveled extensively in Asia and never have a problem crossing busy streets. You just have to know the technique. Best to follow a local. My reluctance with taking motorbike taxi or Xe Om is the hassle of haggling with them. They always quote me a ridiculous price and we have to haggle. I prefer to just walk to take the bus. I guess I am very impatient. This also happens to me in AC.

By the way, what are the current prices? Say, Pham Ngu Lao to Ben Ny? PNL to the Rex-Intercontinental hotels area? I have been quotes as high a 60 k for this short trip even though I am Asian, I must look like a dumb tourist! I succumbed to 30 k.

ThanksThere's no reason why you would not take an actual taxi in Saigon, that's ridiculous. You're safe from the heat and reckless motorbike drivers.

60 k is reasonable, why would you haggle down to 30 k. Xe om needs to eat too.

[LuvAsianTang]

There's no reason why you would not take an actual taxi in Saigon, that's ridiculous. You're safe from the heat and reckless motorbike drivers.

60 k is reasonable, why would you haggle down to 30 k. Xe om needs to eat too.Ok you are right they do have to eat too. Now having said that, the scenario is, that they always highball you at first and in asia if you take the first offer you are considered an easy mark. After getting the 60 then the next time it will be 70 then 80 etc. Are you getting the drift? You have to allow for the greed factor with asians. Negotiating is the norm in asian cultures not the exception. So if you want to drive prices up then just give them what the ask. Oh and by the way. Carry with you, at all times, a wad of tissue and a tube of KY jelly, you will need them both.

Just my 2000 dong, L A T.

[SoloTravels]

Ok you are right they do have to eat too. Now having said that, the scenario is, that they always highball you at first and in asia if you take the first offer you are considered an easy mark. After getting the 60 then the next time it will be 70 then 80 etc. Are you getting the drift? You have to allow for the greed factor with asians. Negotiating is the norm in asian cultures not the exception. So if you want to drive prices up then just give them what the ask. Oh and by the way. Carry with you, at all times, a wad of tissue and a tube of KY jelly, you will need them both.

Just my 2000 dong, L A T."Greed factor with Asians".

"always highball".

Racism at its finest, there are a lot of things you can't haggle. Try going to Hermes and haggle.

You speak with certainty, no one is asking you to accept their price point but haggling them to a point where they would make almost nothing for their work. But have to accept it due to their circumstances is beyond cheap.

To each his own, everything depends on your financial situation. I've personally only took a Xe Om (gave the old guy 500 k, it means nothing to me but its significant to him) once, and took taxis ever since and I've been here for almost 10 months now.

[Cyacopr1]

"Racism at its finest, there are a lot of things you can't haggle. ".

Awe so cute, Solo flaunting his racism card.

I didn't find anything LAT wrote racist and I am Viet kieu. I hate to haggle but I hate more when they try to screw you. Don't tell me you only find righteous people in Vietnam that always give you fair price any services. With service, in the back of my head a little voice always ask me "how much they going to fuck you".

[AmericanThief]

One of the main reasons why I go to a hot toc is to eat pussy. You need a girlfriend.

Examination Room 2 B.

[Strong Bad]

What do you guys like more, hot tocs or cafe BJ / HJ? Iam guessing the cafe are better because you can chat with the girls where as hot tocs are a quick in and out.


You need a girlfriend.

Examination Room 2 B.Well then it looks like on my next trip to Nam Iam going to have to bring a battery powered lamp.

I am only visiting for 3 weeks at the most, so not really wanting to waste my time finding a girlfriend. I am too busy visiting family, hanging with cousins, going on tours to different parts of the country.

[MutantChicken]

What do you guys like more, hot tocs or cafe BJ / HJ? Iam guessing the cafe are better because you can chat with the girls where as hot tocs are a quick in and out.

Well then it looks like on my next trip to Nam Iam going to have to bring a battery powered lamp.

I am only visiting for 3 weeks at the most, so not really wanting to waste my time finding a girlfriend. I am too busy visiting family, hanging with cousins, going on tours to different parts of the country.There are a few areas which have streets filled with cafe m where you can enter have a drink and a BBBJ from a pretty syt for 120-150 k one such area I frequent has two street with 10-15 shops. Is now currently closed due to police operations. So whilst girls are indeed back from tet there are other factors limiting cheong activities. Luckily I know another street with 6-7 hottoc where for 200 k you can find 18 yr old 8/10 give you a BBBJ.

[Strong Bad]

I agree solo, the exchange rate between the Vietnamese dong and the American dollar, isn't fair so why should locals be fair? And if you feel like you are being ripped off, well just remind yourself that your money is worth a lot so it shouldn't be a big deal, unless you choose to make it a big deal.


"Greed factor with Asians".

"always highball".

Racism at its finest, there are a lot of things you can't haggle. Try going to Hermes and haggle.

You speak with certainty, no one is asking you to accept their price point but haggling them to a point where they would make almost nothing for their work. But have to accept it due to their circumstances is beyond cheap.

To each his own, everything depends on your financial situation. I've personally only took a Xe Om (gave the old guy 500 k, it means nothing to me but its significant to him) once, and took taxis ever since and I've been here for almost 10 months now.

[Strong Bad]

I prefer covered BJs, I find that if you sweet talk a girl, get to know her, tip her well, she usually puts in a better effort, and even if its a covered BJ, because she puts in more effort and technique the CBJ is still excellent. I am pretty careful about herpes so I prefer CBJ over BBBJ.


There are a few areas which have streets filled with cafe m where you can enter have a drink and a BBBJ from a pretty syt for 120-150 k one such area I frequent has two street with 10-15 shops. Is now currently closed due to police operations. So whilst girls are indeed back from tet there are other factors limiting cheong activities. Luckily I know another street with 6-7 hottoc where for 200 k you can find 18 yr old 8/10 give you a BBBJ.

[FunMan13]

I am Chinese although I have lived in USA for many years. However, I return to Asia very frequently.

How can I be racist with my own people? It is because I know my own people that I haggle. It's the system, the culture. Yes, after living in the West for many years I find it irritating but I am more offended if I get ripped off. Also being Asian, I know the local prices. Moreover, the majority of these vendors live (not just survive, but live) by doing business with locals, not with tourists. They get their steak and lobster when they do business with foreigners who feel sorry for them.

Give you an example: I go to a "wholesale" or "knock-off" market in Beijing or Shanghai and can buy a set of three suitcases for about US $100. Locals can get them for as low as $80 but I am happy with my purchase. Then when I see a foreigner lugging a similar suitcase, I asked them how much they pay. They would pay $70-80 for one suitcase! The same thing happens with belts, wallets, shirts, backpacks, furniture, accessories, and of course, women.

I am not making judgement. If you want to pay more, go ahead, if you are okay with it. I am not. However, if I am happy with the service, I usually give a western-sized tip, as much as one-third of the price, or I take them to a nice dinner which I know they will never be able to afford (anyway, it's more fun to eat with company than alone).

A point about taxis: in some Asian countries like Japan, China and Singapore, taking taxis are okay because the drivers do not cheat you, either by over-charging, faulty meter or going on a longer route. Perhaps these drivers are better paid, or better regulated. But in some countries, it's a hassle.

Yes, like L.A.T., just my 2,000 dong too.

Funman13.


"Greed factor with Asians".

"always highball".

Racism at its finest, there are a lot of things you can't haggle. Try going to Hermes and haggle.

You speak with certainty, no one is asking you to accept their price point but haggling them to a point where they would make almost nothing for their work. But have to accept it due to their circumstances is beyond cheap.

To each his own, everything depends on your financial situation. I've personally only took a Xe Om (gave the old guy 500 k, it means nothing to me but its significant to him) once, and took taxis ever since and I've been here for almost 10 months now.

[Bugattii]

Hi guys,

I'm wondering if the hot toc girls do CBJ too or only BBBJ?

Because I went to a massage place in HCMC before and I asked for a CBJ but the told me only BBBJ.

[SaigonJoe]

I have been in HCMC a few months and recently had a good experience at one of the massage places across from the Pullman hotel. There are maybe ten girls to choose from and you pay 200-300 vnd for a massage room. Once up in the room you negotiate a price. I paid 500 VND for an excellent BBBJ that lasted about 20 minutes. I went back again and wasn't as lucky be / see the girl wouldn't give head only HJ. Its probably more expensive than other places be / see its in a tourist area but it was fun and easy. Vietnam is a good place for mongering, will try to contribute useful posts.

Cheers

[SteelBaton]

You sound very naïve. Most chicks would rather give a CBJ than a BBBJ. Just bring your own condom. And put it on.


Hi guys,

I'm wondering if the hot toc girls do CBJ too or only BBBJ?

Because I went to a massage place in HCMC before and I asked for a CBJ but the told me only BBBJ.

[NguyetLang]

You sound very nave. Most chicks would rather give a CBJ than a BBBJ. Just bring your own condom. And put it on.Some girls just don't like the taste of rubber / latex. More than one girls have told me that. And they actually enjoyed BBBJ or prefer that over CBJ. To that I just grin.

[Bugattii]

Some girls just don't like the taste of rubber / latex. More than one girls have told me that. And they actually enjoyed BBBJ or prefer that over CBJ. To that I just grin.Yes, I brought my own condom, and she said to me its either a HJ or BBBJ but no CBJ.

But thanks for replying anyways guys!

[Onuevos]

There is a little enclave out off the highway in BC. I don't know how I found it, but I have been going there about a year. The whole street has a number of dark coffee shops, hot tics, etc. A lot of ugly women, but some nice older ladies if that's you're thing. I was in a regular coffee shop and the lady serving had a fit body. She was probably mid-40's or early 50's. We talked some and after the other customer left I flirted some. She asked if I wanted to get a hotel, so I met her down the street. I guess she didn't want to be seen since she owned a coffee shop in the neighborhood. We went to a small but nice enough hotel. My tongue was immediately in her mouth and hands on her ass. I got her clothes off and sure enough, nice body. She sucked my cock standing up and then I pushed her on the bed and fucked her doggy style till I pulled off the cap and came all over her back. I have gone back to see her with the same results. 300 k.

[Pnhsgn]

What does BC mean?


There is a little enclave out off the highway in BC. I don't know how I found it, but I have been going there about a year. The whole street has a number of dark coffee shops, hot tics, etc. A lot of ugly women, but some nice older ladies if that's you're thing. I was in a regular coffee shop and the lady serving had a fit body. She was probably mid-40's or early 50's. We talked some and after the other customer left I flirted some. She asked if I wanted to get a hotel, so I met her down the street. I guess she didn't want to be seen since she owned a coffee shop in the neighborhood. We went to a small but nice enough hotel. My tongue was immediately in her mouth and hands on her ass. I got her clothes off and sure enough, nice body. She sucked my cock standing up and then I pushed her on the bed and fucked her doggy style till I pulled off the cap and came all over her back. I have gone back to see her with the same results. 300 k.

[Onuevos]

What does BC mean?Binh Chanh.

[Steve99]

There are a few areas which have streets filled with cafe m where you can enter have a drink and a BBBJ from a pretty syt for 120-150 k one such area I frequent has two street with 10-15 shops. Is now currently closed due to police operations. So whilst girls are indeed back from tet there are other factors limiting cheong activities. Luckily I know another street with 6-7 hottoc where for 200 k you can find 18 yr old 8/10 give you a BBBJ.Hi,

Your PM is full so cannot PM you, thanks.

Also anyone have a hot TOC map? Will be over on this Thursday at very sort notice and little time to research.

Thanks in advance.

[HochiMinge]

I visited the last one on the left a few weeks ago. Walked in, only one girl but not bad looking. She was a bit miserable. Paid up 200 k vnd and went upstairs. Place is semi private with 'beds' din cubicles. The girl did a good job, tipped her 200 k and left.

[Butakal]

Just landed here in Saigon been off the mongering scene for some time. Any advice or info a good massage / hot tocs around District 1. PM me glad to get directions.

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[VietLove]

Hi Senior bros,

Am planning a trip to HCMC, staying in Quan 1.

Hope that I can have some information on the local Bia Om (Location Cost etc.).

Or anyone have a regular driver for day rates?

Sincerely,

Viet Love.

[Pnhsgn]

Any details on how to get there or address please.


Binh Chanh.

[Advantageous]

I booked myself into the Hampton Hotel for four nights at the end of July, as it's girl friendly and seems convenient enough to where I wanted to be. I'm saving the vast majority of the LT offerings for Phils, but I was hoping there was a place I could grab a quick BJ or bang that was a short walk from my hotel--if it helps any, it's near the Sheraton Saigon. Also down to grab some beers or shoot the shit over some quality local cuisine if anyone's in the area, so PM me if you're around.

[Onuevos]

Any details on how to get there or address please.Take NVL towards Mekong, go under the bridge and out on the interstate, turn right on a Quoc Lo 1. Follow straight turn right at the end, turn left at the market, then over the small bridge. Take your pick after that. Cafe om and hot tocs everywhere. Mostly 40 plus women. I had the best blow jobs out there and fucked some hot 45-55 year old pussy.

[MutantChicken]

Any details on how to get there or address please.Do you have a bike, there aren't any regular bus or taxi hanging around to get to these places so unless you have access to a bike, having a address is useless. And if you do have a bike, then get on it and ride around. When you find some good ones get back to me and we will swap.

[MutantChicken]

I booked myself into the Hampton Hotel for four nights at the end of July, as it's girl friendly and seems convenient enough to where I wanted to be. I'm saving the vast majority of the LT offerings for Phils, but I was hoping there was a place I could grab a quick BJ or bang that was a short walk from my hotel--if it helps any, it's near the Sheraton Saigon. Also down to grab some beers or shoot the shit over some quality local cuisine if anyone's in the area, so PM me if you're around.Good luck, you will need it, I'll let others clarify my statement for you. BTW if you read the post history you prob can guess the reasons for yourself.

[MutantChicken]

Take NVL towards Mekong, go under the bridge and out on the interstate, turn right on a Quoc Lo 1. Follow straight turn right at the end, turn left at the market, then over the small bridge. Take your pick after that. Cafe om and hot tocs everywhere. Mostly 40 plus women. I had the best blow jobs out there and fucked some hot 45-55 year old pussy.I think most guys wouldn't be that keen on that demographic of women, and as someone who has personally been in that particular part of BC, I can say that for me, hot wouldn't be a very accurate adjective, in fact in VN hot and 40 yr old women are mutually exclusive as women here age quite badly, its very rare I find a women over 30 attractive. But whatever floats your boat. I thought I better make a balancing comment as its quite far to go for your average guy. Only to find "hot" has a different meaning for them.

[NoImbecile]

I had the time and opportunity to slip out to NPK today afternoon. Having sampled 2 of the HTs there (first one (90 or 92): nice, 2nd one (111 B): not so nice), I decided to try a third one (84 - intersection of NKP with LVP). As soon as I entered, a cute little thing took my hand and led me upstairs (better done up than the other 2 places). A quick semi-verbal discussion followed:

NI (verbal): no massage.

Nya (non-verbal): Touches you know what and smiles.

She got the toiletries and then, you know you're getting an awesome BJ when a girl clips up her hair. What followed was exactly that, as described in another post about the exact place by Advantageous (can't better his description,so might as well use it):


Almost abruptly, up comes bottom of her dress, down comes the front, and here comes one of the most spectacular BBBJ with CIM I've ever had period. Light nuzzles and licks of my cock and balls, slow, loving, "My boyfriend bought me the shoes I wanted and the dress I wanted, so I need to step my game up" head. No mention of a clock, or coming soon, or "you finish baby" or anything. I alternated between fondling her firm ass and perky tits, eventually deciding on a finger in her snatch, occasionally sucking her tits when they came down low enough for me to reach. After 20 minutes or so of this, I blew a heavy load and she devotedly bobbed her way through my cumshot until I was done, popping off my dick with a sucking motion. She disappeared to the back for a few minutes to gargle and rinse, coming back after to wash off the hand that was between her legs and give me another 10-15 minutes massage.Same investment as him too, now that I had the pleasure of re-reading his post (400 K + 100 K).

[DocBird]

There is a little enclave out off the highway in BC. I don't know how I found it, but I have been going there about a year. The whole street has a number of dark coffee shops, hot tics, etc. A lot of ugly women, but some nice older ladies if that's you're thing. I was in a regular coffee shop and the lady serving had a fit body. She was probably mid-40's or early 50's. We talked some and after the other customer left I flirted some. She asked if I wanted to get a hotel, so I met her down the street. I guess she didn't want to be seen since she owned a coffee shop in the neighborhood. We went to a small but nice enough hotel. My tongue was immediately in her mouth and hands on her ass. I got her clothes off and sure enough, nice body. She sucked my cock standing up and then I pushed her on the bed and fucked her doggy style till I pulled off the cap and came all over her back. I have gone back to see her with the same results. 300 k.I share your taste for the 40-50's demographic and would love to partake in their services.

Thanks.

[Wendella]

I share your taste for the 40-50's demographic and would love to partake in their services.

Thanks.I think BC stands for BinhChanh, and the highway is probably the one that becomes Nguyen Van Linh street, which runs through District 7.

[ILoveChicas]

I think BC stands for BinhChanh, and the highway is probably the one that becomes Nguyen Van Linh street, which runs through District 7.I'm wondering if anyone can tighten up these directions a bit?

I recently took a spin out there to see if I could find the area. One problem is the area itself is a mixed zone, sort of a highway area with neighborhoods that are not visible from the highway without a lot of difficult crossing back over.

Things get a little murky for me when you turn right off of Van Linh.

I realize there's a certain amount of discretion involved yet.

I'd also be interested in any other good cafes like this in Ho Chi Minh. The middle aged women demographic doesn't bother me.

For those new to the area, the run up Van Linh is not a 10 minute ride. Probably 40 minutes or so +/.

Also something of a cop zone for pulling in lots of motorbikes.

[Domboras]

So after reading a lot on this forum, I wanted to give Bennys a shot!

Terrible!

As earlier post stated I just walked in, 200+200 up front, I tried first too pay 200 after but they did not agree.

Girl maybe 19. 7 in looks led me to the booth.

Washing, fumbling, giving long HJ. I tried to lead her head to BJ but she tried to kinda fake blow with wet tissue in her hand. I tried to play with booth pussy & ass but very very hard difficult.

Back HJ I said told her to go down. Finally I got my BJ.

I've had a lot better in HCMC!

TO bad, wish there were more girls but all were busy.

[Wendella]

I'm wondering if anyone can tighten up these directions a bit?

I recently took a spin out there to see if I could find the area. One problem is the area itself is a mixed zone, sort of a highway area with neighborhoods that are not visible from the highway without a lot of difficult crossing back over.

Things get a little murky for me when you turn right off of Van Linh.

I realize there's a certain amount of discretion involved yet.

I'd also be interested in any other good cafes like this in Ho Chi Minh. The middle aged women demographic doesn't bother me.

For those new to the area, the run up Van Linh is not a 10 minute ride. Probably 40 minutes or so +/.

Also something of a cop zone for pulling in lots of motorbikes.Discretion has nothing to do with it for me at least. I just know as much as you do, but a bit more. I'm pretty sure he means Nguyen Van Linh as it becomes the highway as you head west out of District 7 (over the orange bridge, over another gray bridge). But that segment of the market is not something I'd go seek out so that's as far as I can describe.

Yeah I don't know why but people are pretty lousy with directions in the Vietnam section. Some try to do that, there's one here who deliberately does it so you PM him and then he'll offer to take you there for $50 or something. If I knew, I'd just tell you.

[ILoveChicas]

Discretion has nothing to do with it for me at least. I just know as much as you do, but a bit more. I'm pretty sure he means Nguyen Van Linh as it becomes the highway as you head west out of District 7 (over the orange bridge, over another gray bridge). But that segment of the market is not something I'd go seek out so that's as far as I can describe.

Yeah I don't know why but people are pretty lousy with directions in the Vietnam section. Some try to do that, there's one here who deliberately does it so you PM him and then he'll offer to take you there for $50 or something. If I knew, I'd just tell you.Gotcha and thanks for the follow up in general.

Your story on getting hit up for money for having someone bring you places was worth a laugh. Vietnam shakedown online!

[Ecchi]

So after reading a lot on this forum, I wanted to give Bennys a shot!

Terrible!

As earlier post stated I just walked in, 200+200 up front, I tried first too pay 200 after but they did not agree.

Girl maybe 19. 7 in looks led me to the booth.

Washing, fumbling, giving long HJ. I tried to lead her head to BJ but she tried to kinda fake blow with wet tissue in her hand. I tried to play with booth pussy & ass but very very hard difficult.

Back HJ I said told her to go down. Finally I got my BJ.

I've had a lot better in HCMC!

TO bad, wish there were more girls but all were busy.I'm sorry to her you had bad experience at Benny. Personally, I'd never tried Benny until yesterday. I usually go to D10 or NPK for BBBJ Hot Toc. Sadly, Hot Toc that offers good BBBBJ with CIM ending is becoming rarer. Such Hot Toc is like a dinosaur. And I have a feeling that Saigon is at that final stage before the meteor hit the Hot Toc scene and it's gone forever (or retreat to outlier area where only locals can find).

At D10, average look is better but SOP tend to be bad (mostly HJ. Minimal BJ. HJ finish). At NPK, there are 3 houses out of 7 that offer good SOP (BBBJ with CIM finish). Suffice to say, my friends and I repeat with girls that we find acceptable (operating word here is 'acceptable') to the point of being unhealthy (more than 4-5 times with same girl being too much for us). There's a new one opened recently on Vo Thi Sau street but that place only has 1 girls we find acceptable to us.

So it is that we made our way to Benny over the weekend. Looked like they clean up the place quite a bit. It looked less seedy than most place we frequent. From its reputation, Benny offer pretty good SOP for a Hot Toc. Again, I'm sorry to hear of your bad experience. For both my friend and I, we get the kind of SOP we came to expect out of such Hot Toc, mostly BBBJ with CIM finish. The girl I chose looked youngish (she said 21 I thought more like 18). Super tight body. Very nice bubble ass. Again. Super tight body. The type that you can bounce a dime off it. While her BJ skill is average at best, I do like her enthusiasm and even some GFE feeling.

After I came, she even laid next to me with her head on my shoulder for the next 15 minutes making small talk. In all, I'm pretty happy although the amount of girls I find to be my spec is only 2 (from what I'd seen). I don't mind paying upfront 400 k VND total (200 hours + 200 tip). To me, it's better than to negotiate which can be a turn-off. Also fair to the girls because I heard sometime they get customer who just tried to stiff them.

[LoveTool]

I was driving on my way somewhere, and I scan around typically to see what babes are visible as I drive by. On this one street I drove down, I saw out the corner of my eye a little cheap food shop selling lunch, and at the counter a cute girl in a short dress that looked a little bit out of place. I circled back to have a better look, and she was young and fairly hot. This is the kind of dress designed to show off her lovely legs. Very pretty face, my guess 18 or 19. I think about what to do and decide I can spare some time right now to see where she goes, perhaps I'll be lucky and she'll work in some venue where I can connect with her. She takes off on her motorbike with her takeaway lunch, and heads up this street in the direction I was going. After a few hundred meters, she signals left and crosses the street to opposite side, which is great because it means she is stopping soon, and I won't need to follow her a long time. Now as she pulls over, I get a surge of excitement. The place she is pulling into is what I believe is a cafe om, one I have never visited before. I drive past and up a way, then pull over to the side to see if she goes in. She goes in but comes straight back out with her food and sits at a table outside to eat now. In my mind, now I know that this is a lovely opportunity, but that I must wait for her to finish the food and time my entry for when she is done or nearly done. It's a sunny day and so this is not very comfortable. After about 10 minutes I decide to just go for it, go sit inside, better to sit and wait there. I drive up and do that. I pass her. Wow, she's really pretty, I notice. I sit inside where I have a good angle to see her at her table. The place is empty except for one other customer. I wait and wait and wait. The girl eats super slowly, and half an hour passes. In the meantime two other guys together have taken another pair of seats a few rows in front of me. Finally she stands up and makes her way inside. SHe walks straight to the very back of the cafe, passing me and not noticing. A couple minutes later she starts walking to the front, again past me. Instincts tell me that if she passes me, she will go to those probalby regular customer and that will be the end of this adventure. So I say something to her in Vietnamese to get her attention. She looks at me, not understanding. Another girls has now stopped next to her and is helping. This girl seems to be deliberately not understanding, and I gesture an invitation for her to sit with me. She doesn't get it, but the other girl (with a little annoyance in her voice) tells her what I mean in Vietnamese, he wants you to sit down, stupid. So she sits down in the chair next to me. Up close she looks quite young and pretty, and wow those legs. I see that she is not very comfortable, probably did not want to sit with me as I'm not Vietnamese. So we go slow. We make small talk chat. WHere do you live, brothers and sisters, etc. Some Google translation. Despite the early awkwardness, it starts going smoothly. I wasted so much time waiting for her to finish her lunch that now my free time is drawing to a close, I have somewhere I need to be in a few minutes. As that deadline approaches, I realize that having this plum in my lap is not going to happen on this visit. But rapport was established, and I get the check and give her a 50 K tip, which she seems quite happy about. I will need to return. I leave, but I'm frustrated that time ran out on me for this one. But wow, some excellent luck, that she turned out to be a cafe om girl.

By the way, this place is a strictly hug place, no BJ.

Also I need to not share the location, for the time being at least. Sorry.

[MutantChicken]

By the way, this place is a strictly hug place, no BJ.

Also I need to not share the location, for the time being at least. Sorry.This wouldn't be th bunch of cafe om found on pth right?. FYI these places get rather boring quickly, esp if they the ones on pth as the girls only sit on your lap and you can grop out side their clothes. No breast grabbing inside the bra or feeling their wet pussies AND they will butterfly. And its still going to cost you 100 k incl the drink and tip.

I know a few that has soem decent looking girls not the best ill grant def not as good as the one you described. Bit they will allow all access. Again for 100 k, if you are prepared to drive around, I know of one I just went to this week up towards BD, there is def on on par with what you described 18 yrs old pretty naturally hairless pussy, BJ included with drink 120 k. Nevertheless enjoy your find whilst you are still enjoying the novelty. P.S. If you go around TP there is a street with street girls cost 300 k and they are as you described your girl. Tho the girl service is much to be desired but if I'm going to pay 100 k for a girl to sit on my lap or a similar quality girl that I can fuck for 300 k I know which is my preference.

[LoveTool]

This wouldn't be th bunch of cafe om found on pth right?. FYI these places get rather boring quickly, esp if they the ones on pth as the girls only sit on your lap and you can grop out side their clothes. No breast grabbing inside the bra or feeling their wet pussies AND they will butterfly. And its still going to cost you 100 k incl the drink and tip.

I know a few that has soem decent looking girls not the best ill grant def not as good as the one you described. Bit they will allow all access. Again for 100 k, if you are prepared to drive around, I know of one I just went to this week up towards BD, there is def on on par with what you described 18 yrs old pretty naturally hairless pussy, BJ included with drink 120 k. Nevertheless enjoy your find whilst you are still enjoying the novelty. P.S. If you go around TP there is a street with street girls cost 300 k and they are as you described your girl. Tho the girl service is much to be desired but if I'm going to pay 100 k for a girl to sit on my lap or a similar quality girl that I can fuck for 300 k I know which is my preference.I'm still in the middle of this situation so if it's ok let me keep the location quiet for now. I had 2 more visits since then, and I was writing about my second visit last night and this forum ate my post. I typed for such a long time that I was logged out, then I used back button to go back to my written post and the page wouldn't load due to weak connection or overload server or some reason. Post gone. Wow you really know your way. In answer to your last idea, I have experienced the fast fuck you mention and also the girl in lap, both a few times, and honestly if there was a way to combine the girl in lap with a fuck then that would be ideal, and I know after I do it, after the 300 deal I feel bad and disappointed, and after the 100 deal I feel good, excited, but also sometimes frustrated. So for me at least it's not a simple choice. Getting that cafe girl to a hotel seems like it would be the ideal solution. Oh, one more thing. In the om places, I sure did experience touching breasts and vaginas, so maybe it depends on the girl you get, her attitude. Not always but on occasion. Butterfy, yes some do that.

[MutantChicken]

I'm still in the middle of this situation so if it's ok let me keep the location quiet for now. I had 2 more visits since then, and I was writing about my second visit last night and this forum ate my post. I typed for such a long time that I was logged out, then I used back button to go back to my written post and the page wouldn't load due to weak connection or overload server or some reason. Post gone. Wow you really know your way. In answer to your last idea, I have experienced the fast fuck you mention and also the girl in lap, both a few times, and honestly if there was a way to combine the girl in lap with a fuck then that would be ideal, and I know after I do it, after the 300 deal I feel bad and disappointed, and after the 100 deal I feel good, excited, but also sometimes frustrated. So for me at least it's not a simple choice. Getting that cafe girl to a hotel seems like it would be the ideal solution. Oh, one more thing. In the om places, I sure did experience touching breasts and vaginas, so maybe it depends on the girl you get, her attitude. Not always but on occasion. Butterfy, yes some do that.As I said I'm pretty familiar with this area and the "scene", the place I think you refer to is a cafe named Cat Bien, its around no500 of that street, there are some sexy looking girls who can be seen sitting and working tehre, the "best" one is one named Suong, she look good from afar, but up close, sure she is slim and slimmer, but her face is much older than her body would indicate, I say late 20's, and her face a bit horse. If this is your find, yeah not my type for a number of reasons.

[LoveTool]

Again for 100 k, if you are prepared to drive around, I know of one I just went to this week up towards BD, there is def on on par with what you described 18 yrs old pretty naturally hairless pussy, BJ included with drink 120 k. Nevertheless enjoy your find whilst you are still enjoying the novelty. P.S. If you go around TP there is a street with street girls cost 300 k and they are as you described your girl. Tho the girl service is much to be desired but if I'm going to pay 100 k for a girl to sit on my lap or a similar quality girl that I can fuck for 300 k I know which is my preference.BD is Binh Duong? BJ I think I know that one. TP not sure what that is. Tan Phu district?

BTW, what do you think are the chances are that a cafe om girl would be willing to go to a hotel? I expect they would be relatively cheap but I could be wrong.

You meant the cafe oms in D8? Because it was in one of those that there was a girl who wanted my hands on all her parts. She took my hand and put it in her panties right down there, basically demanding I finger her. I had no choice but to do as I was told. That one had a super hot slim body, not as young as this current girl. Bad breath was her drawback. Her attitude was amazing though. Not sure if she still works there as that was nearly a year ago.

[NguyetLang]

BD is Binh Duong? BJ I think I know that one. TP not sure what that is. Tan Phu district?

BTW, what do you think are the chances are that a cafe om girl would be willing to go to a hotel? I expect they would be relatively cheap but I could be wrong.

I have been able to do so on several occasions, from both beer-om and cafe-om places. All of them were after I became familiar face (been there several times, don't have to be with the same girl every time, although that will help). Typical price was 300 k-500 k for ST and about 1-2 mil for LT (overnight) depends on the girl. Most will claim that they can only go after closing time (11 pm or later). Also not all girls will do that. Some will not go to hotel for any price, mostly because she fears something (there were stories about WG lured to hotel then got robbed, beaten, raped, and even murdered). Becoming a "known" customer will help your chance.

Go ahead. Just ask, the worst thing is a NO answer!

Good luck!

[Nomes2015]

The place I think you refer to is a cafe named Cat Bien, its around no 500 of that street.

Can you give me the street name and district please.

Thanks

[Wendella]

The place I think you refer to is a cafe named Cat Bien, its around no 500 of that street.

Can you give me the street name and district please.

Thanks


The place I think you refer to is a cafe named Cat Bien, its around no 500 of that street.

Can you give me the street name and district please.

ThanksThe street and district were in a previous post that was being referred back to. I don't know the exact address of the place he was talking about, but earlier in the conversation he said it was on PTH in District 8, and I am pretty sure that means Pham The Hien street. So if you just go drive along that street and keep your eyes open when you are near 500, I think you will find it. And a few more of them, six or so cafe oms there on a short stretch. They are the type where it is hug only, no BJ.

Myself and most others here don't agree that the general attitude here should be to not help with info unless there's 'something in it for me'. In fact it's against the stated philosophy of this forum. Recently a post was deleted by the admin for promoting that exact idea. (written by "Meo Den".

But if you scanned back to previous posts you would have seen he mentioned PTH in D8, and if you looked at a map you would have found that easily.

[AmericanThief]

Hoang Nhi.

Cat Toc. Goi Dau. Salon.

161 Nguyen Hong Dao P. 14 District Tan Binh (deep in Tan Binh too near An Phu) kind of a shit hole, but if you guys are engineers working out there then maybe ok for you but not a real destination as there were only two girls working.

There are only curtains separating the tables and the fan was blowing so hard the curtains kept moving around. 120 ticket and tip whatever.

A girl I've known for about 4 years was helping out and asked me to come by, so I did. She always gives me good non rushed sloppy and deep service.

She's not there anymore, but hey its an address, and I saw two more Hot Tocs on the next block with lots of girls in the window. Again good if you're in the area, but I wouldn't bother driving all the way out there fighting the traffic on CMT.

No parking either. You have to push your bike up the ramp and into the house, through the front room and into the stairwell, and the same to get back out again. I hate that shit.

[Wendella]

Looking at your post history anyone would see that you would feel the way your feel, in the 10 yrs or so that you have been in VN what real information have you yourself discovered, all you do is parasite off other peoples finds than then at best disseminate that information as your own, with the lack of new information you are now back on a sex forum you once disparaged, hoping to again leech off others.You're often going back to this motif of parasites and leeches. I wonder what a psychologist would make of that. Like yourself, I've found out some things from the grapevine, meaning here, and also by checking things out in person. Regulars here know I've contributed plenty more than my share, and regulars know you're one who just won't share any useable details unless you get paid to, one way or another. So you come to this forum not to share info, which is what this is supposed to be all about, but instead looking to lure newbies, get them interested in a general description of a place you won't tell where it is so they PM you asking, and then they find out there's a price. So who's the parasite here then. Ah whatever, I don't think you're a parasite. But I don't like this thing of trying to get newbies to pay you for info. It just doesn't seem cool. Or posting stuff that you won't share any details on.

Another forum I once disparaged? You know I still do. I just did last week, and looks like it was a popular post. Surprising. I expected to get zapped to hell for it and the opposite happened. Over there they all have this unwillingness to just talk about this hobby and share any details. You know you actually used to write good posts until you got infected by that crap selfish miserly attitude over there. Look if everyone came here and did what you want, basically never share any useable info (you get UPSET! If someone shares info here! Dude that's so messed up), then this forum would die. It would be boring as fuck, just like that other one is. Non-stop talk of exchange rates and where to buy such and such a soup, back-patting each other for inside jokes. It's a total crap forum. Oh and. You seem to not be there any more, what's up with that? OK yeah I heard. So now you're lurking there after you got banned? Creating clones? Dude. Take a step back. Whats going on here. Take a break from these forums, go out and enjoy yourself and forget these online turf battles, it's not healthy. Who gives a fuck. It's addicting, I know because I've caught that bug before. Just go cold turkey and get back to real life.

Anyway, I only come on these for one reason: to hear about new places I didn't hear of yet. Simple. If I there's an opportunity to easily help someone out who's asking, yeah whatever, do it. Karma.

[LukeSkywalker]

I would never trust any low life who try to make money out of prostitutes.

Eventually their greed will take over and they may set their "friends" up for robberies and savage beatings.

[Wendella]

A thought just hit me. This is the thread for finding girls online. Regardless of our different philosophies about sharing, the stuff we are meant to talk about here is already shared online, for example on the various websites like danchoi.xxx and thiendia.com and banhmy. Us and kynu.net. And of course there are more.

Myself, I've mainly checked out danchoi. I have to say that on banhmy there are lots of fake ads recently. For example this one:

http://banhmy.us/hangho-19972/ngoc-han-ms-189-ngoc-han-gai-goi-quan-10.html

The girl looks quite good in picture after picture until you get to the last one and it's like whoa, who's that. That's the girl you get, I believe. The other pictures were all lifted from an ad that ran a few months ago on danchoi, a girl in D8 who charged 1 million 500, and her ad was up for just a week or so and got deleted. (my guess is she got enough replies to achieve her goal and deleted the ad when she had enough).

Banhmy also always has the setup where you have to pay for phone numbers using phone credit. But actually their ads seem to mostly be lifted (and reformatted) from other websites like these. From time to time, phone numbers leak into the ads, the girls (or whoever posts the ads) sneak the number into the ad and it goes up. Usually the site admin catches the numbers and deletes them. I've seen some periods when the phone numbers were getting included on most ads, but then a clampdown after that.

Someone told me there's backlash now against danchoi (among local VNese) due to bait & switch becoming too common, fake ads, etc. I don't know myself. Locals prefer the website thiendia. If I go look at that one, the first thing I notice is that the range goes from 300-600, where danchoi has a few at 300 but many at 400 or 500, and then it goes up higher all the way to 1. 5 million. To me it looks like danchoi still gets the most new ads though.

[Whisper1]

You're often going back to this motif of parasites and leeches. I wonder what a psychologist would make of that. Like yourself, I've found out some things from the grapevine, meaning here, and also by checking things out in person. Regulars here know I've contributed plenty more than my share, and regulars know you're one who just won't share any useable details unless you get paid to, one way or another. So you come to this forum not to share info, which is what this is supposed to be all about, but instead looking to lure newbies, get them interested in a general description of a place you won't tell where it is so they PM you asking, and then they find out there's a price. So who's the parasite here then. Ah whatever, I don't think you're a parasite. But I don't like this thing of trying to get newbies to pay you for info. It just doesn't seem cool. Or posting stuff that you won't share any details on.

Another forum I once disparaged? You know I still do. I just did last week, and looks like it was a popular post. Surprising. I expected to get zapped to hell for it and the opposite happened. Over there they all have this unwillingness to just talk about this hobby and share any details. You know you actually used to write good posts until you got infected by that crap selfish miserly attitude over there. Look if everyone came here and did what you want, basically never share any useable info (you get UPSET! If someone shares info here! Dude that's so messed up), then this forum would die. It would be boring as fuck, just like that other one is. Non-stop talk of exchange rates and where to buy such and such a soup, back-patting each other for inside jokes. It's a total crap forum. Oh and. You seem to not be there any more, what's up with that? OK yeah I heard. So now you're lurking there after you got banned? Creating clones? Dude. Take a step back. Whats going on here. Take a break from these forums, go out and enjoy yourself and forget these online turf battles, it's not healthy. Who gives a fuck. It's addicting, I know because I've caught that bug before. Just go cold turkey and get back to real life.

Anyway, I only come on these for one reason: to hear about new places I didn't hear of yet. Simple. If I there's an opportunity to easily help someone out who's asking, yeah whatever, do it. Karma.I wish Jackson would create a like button so I can like this post.

[Wendella]

There's another forum besides these 2? I'm happy to hear about that other one in PM. Maybe it's one I know already or maybe not. I've been pretty dormant on these sites the last couple years.

From one thing he mentioned, it seemed as if Ecchi here had an ISG account a long time ago but let it go. Anyway, that's another way he could have met people from ISG, back when he was using that other account that I presume had PM.

Back to the matter at hand here, has anyone tried the higher end ones on the danchoi websites? I mean the 1 million or 1 point 5 million ones. I wonder what a customer gets for that extra money. Is it looks? Is it performance? Both? Neither?

It's strange how it goes 300,400, 500,600, 700, a very few 800's, but I have NEVER seen a 900, then yes 1 million, but then nothing from 1. 1 to 1. 4 but then yes at 1. 5 million. Myself, I've only gone with 500 and 600 so far. I've been tempted by some at the top prices but never did pull the trigger yet. Seeing a giant flower (or butterfly) over their faces may have had something to do with it.

I'll confess that the one in the pink jeans, I kind of did pull the trigger on that one. I put the number in my phone, but was too busy at work to find time to do it, but still kept checking to see if the ad was up and the number still working. One day the ad was suddenly gone, uh oh, but the number still worked. Just a few more days of work to go and I'd do it, I decided. Then at long last came that day when I was finally free, I set off for D8 and rang the number. Turned off! Ugh. It never did go back on again. I tried many times.

[An349]

Just got back from Benny at 110 DBP. About six girls working at 1:30 on a Saturday afternoon, the facilities are clean and kept nice. Price was 400 up front (which I don't mind), and we went straight upstairs. I asked if I could get CBJ, she said no, all the girls only do BBBJ. So I opted for HJ. I laid on the table, she pulled up my shirt and pulled down my pants to my knees, and cleaned me with wipes. Straight away she took her top down, and had a great pair on her. She turned off the light, but as I was the only customer at the time she asked if I wanted it turned back on, to which I said yes. She started kissing / licking and working it, and I reached under her skirt. As soon as she felt my hand on her rear she pulled her panties down to her knees and continued. I was free to explore everywhere, rubbing her clit, and inserting my finger. Now she wasn't the most beautiful girl I've met here (6/10), but her body was great and her technique was superb. She had a very light touch and when I got close the first time she stopped working it and continued with the kissing and the licking for awhile. She did turn out the light when another customer showed up, and as others have mentioned, you're in a single room with curtains and semi-transparent dividers so you can hear and see quite a bit. Again, not a problem for me. After about 10 more minutes I let loose, and she cleaned me up and told me to relax for a little while. Her name was Bich. All in all a great experience.

Compared to MPs here, you don't get a massage first (which is never great anyway), and quite often the girls at the MP don't want to take down their top or their panties. This is much better if you are just looking for a good release and more intimacy / roaming with the hands. I'll definitely be going back.

[LoveTool]

Just got back from Benny at 110 DBP. Excellent report there, thanks. Can I ask, when you say "kissing" is that french kissing or her kissing your thing or her kissing your body or what?

[An349]

Excellent report there, thanks. Can I ask, when you say "kissing" is that french kissing or her kissing your thing or her kissing your body or what?The kissing / licking was on my nipples, chest, stomach and she also was very enthusiastic about licking my balls. I didn't ask or try to have her french kiss. She obviously would have kissed the heck out of my little man (since this is a BBBJ place) if I had wanted that instead of the HJ.

[FunMan13]

Great posts on Ben Ny's. I visit HCMC about once a year and always visit BN. There were never surprises. You know what you're getting. There were times when I could not pop (not because of the girl, it's just me) but every time the girl would keep trying. It seems like they felt they were failing in their job if you don't pop. I know you regulars / locals hate this for 'spoiling the market' but I would slip a 100 k in their hand after the deed if they were extra hard working.

Regarding kissing, I really don't fancy kissing these girls (definitely not French kissing) who BBBJCIM 10-20 unwashed cocks everyday. It's just me.

I was in HCMC last February. I am coming back in late November, also going to Hanoi.


The kissing / licking was on my nipples, chest, stomach and she also was very enthusiastic about licking my balls. I didn't ask or try to have her french kiss. She obviously would have kissed the heck out of my little man (since this is a BBBJ place) if I had wanted that instead of the HJ.

[Carl Raze]

Hoang Nhi.

Cat Toc. Goi Dau. Salon.

161 Nguyen Hong Dao P. 14 District Tan Binh (deep in Tan Binh too near An Phu) kind of a shit hole, but if you guys are engineers working out there then maybe ok for you but not a real destination as there were only two girls working.

There are only curtains separating the tables and the fan was blowing so hard the curtains kept moving around. 120 ticket and tip whatever.

A girl I've known for about 4 years was helping out and asked me to come by, so I did. She always gives me good non rushed sloppy and deep service.

She's not there anymore, but hey its an address, and I saw two more Hot Tocs on the next block with lots of girls in the window. Again good if you're in the area, but I wouldn't bother driving all the way out there fighting the traffic on CMT.

No parking either. You have to push your bike up the ramp and into the house, through the front room and into the stairwell, and the same to get back out again. I hate that shit.It's been a while since the last time I visited one of these places. Can you let me know what a standard tip would be at a place like this?

[MutantChicken]

It's been a while since the last time I visited one of these places. Can you let me know what a standard tip would be at a place like this?As the ticket is 120. Locals would tip 150, max 200 if there was a really pretty girl or there was CIM or the fireand ice treatment. You foreigners prob expected to pay 300 or more but ID just give 200 and walk out don't bother hanging around to see her reaction.

[Carl Raze]

As the ticket is 120. Locals would tip 150, max 200 if there was a really pretty girl or there was CIM or the fireand ice treatment. You foreigners prob expected to pay 300 or more but ID just give 200 and walk out don't bother hanging around to see her reaction.Thanks for the enlightenment! I've got the whole afternoon today to explore and play. I'd bet the reason most foreigners overpay is due to ignorance.

[Goons]

I was in HCM sometime last year, tried Benniees on my first attempt I walked into a house with a disabled child. The second attempt I walked into a building where the front desk was at the far end of the main entrance with stairs nearby. I approached the desk there was a woman behind it and a security guard sitting on the bench in front of it, both just gave me blank stares and neither said a word so I left fearing another mistaken address.

[Fast Eddie 48]

Excellent report there, thanks. Can I ask, when you say "kissing" is that french kissing or her kissing your thing or her kissing your body or what?To Love Tool.





The only thing I want her to kiss and touch is my Johnny and nothing else, this girl blow and CIM about 10 guys a day why would you want to French kiss any girls at ben ny.

Fast eddie 48.

[Wendella]

To Love Tool.

The only thing I want her to kiss and touch is my Johnny and nothing else, this girl blow and CIM about 10 guys a day why would you want to French kiss any girls at ben ny.

Fast eddie 48.What's more, I've heard recently that girls there like ice cream. So unless that's also your favorite, might want to hold off on the kissing there.

[SgnShgr]

Tran Nao has at least two hot tocs that I have used in the past. There was a third one which was the best but that has gone unfortunately. If you look for any hot toc on the street that has the words Goi Dau on the sign you should be good to go. None of them have cost me more than 200 k and one place I had two girls suck my dick at the same time. Awesome.

[Ecchi]

Tran Nao has at least two hot tocs that I have used in the past. There was a third one which was the best but that has gone unfortunately. If you look for any hot toc on the street that has the words Goi Dau on the sign you should be good to go. None of them have cost me more than 200 k and one place I had two girls suck my dick at the same time. Awesome.New info for me. Thanks. Will try to look for this.

[Tmackly]

I was in HCM sometime last year, tried Benniees on my first attempt I walked into a house with a disabled child. The second attempt I walked into a building where the front desk was at the far end of the main entrance with stairs nearby. I approached the desk there was a woman behind it and a security guard sitting on the bench in front of it, both just gave me blank stares and neither said a word so I left fearing another mistaken address.Try looking it up on Google. They have a map as to where it is.

[SgnShgr]

New info for me. Thanks. Will try to look for this.I'll drive past them tonight and try and take some pics. Send me a PM and I'll send them on to you. There is also a few rub and tugs near the round about. They will try and ask for 500 k for a HJ but I have been able to barter them down to 300 k which I still think is a bit over the odds.

[JD468]

Tran Nao has at least two hot tocs that I have used in the past. There was a third one which was the best but that has gone unfortunately. If you look for any hot toc on the street that has the words Goi Dau on the sign you should be good to go. None of them have cost me more than 200 k and one place I had two girls suck my dick at the same time. Awesome.It helps if you give the exact location and name SgnShgr.

One of the shops is called Vinh Tu, from memory it is around 39 or 37 Tran Nao. 350 k in total (ticket and tip) should do the trick. I have had some good CIM action there, but also some cum in a tissue type experiences. If you find a girl that is good in this place, stick with her as the service levels fluctuate a lot in this shop. The one that closed down a few months ago was near the big petrol station. I am not aware of a 3rd one, but will have a closer look in the next few weeks and provide the exact details.

[SgnShgr]

It helps if you give the exact location and name SgnShgr.

One of the shops is called Vinh Tu, from memory it is around 39 or 37 Tran Nao. 350 k in total (ticket and tip) should do the trick. I have had some good CIM action there, but also some cum in a tissue type experiences. If you find a girl that is good in this place, stick with her as the service levels fluctuate a lot in this shop. The one that closed down a few months ago was near the big petrol station. I am not aware of a 3rd one, but will have a closer look in the next few weeks and provide the exact details.The HT's are Thien Phuc at 86 Tran Nao and Vihn Thu at 35 b Tran Nao.

[XSilverTigerX]

I am a Vietnamese American. I do not have a lot of money, so can not go to HCM very often. The last time was three years ago. My favorite area was Giai Phong St. I remember there was three sex shop on that one road. Just go in and pick a girl, go upstairs, have sex and pay 500 k downstair. It was easy, nice clean room and good price. I have read that the prices have been going up since the last time I was there. I read it jumped to 600 k then maybe 800 k. So, when I went there I was expecting it would be 600 k or 800 k.

It was worst, they were all gone. Could not find them anymore. So, I was walked around all the streets in that area, Giai Phong St, Ba Vi St then Thang Long St, for an hour to see if they moved or if new sex shop opened up in that area. The one shop that looked like a sex shop was near the top end of Thang Long St. The shop had no signs, there was many pretty girls in red uniforms. I went in and they told me to sit down and started to give me a shave. After the shave I ask for a massage or to go to the back room. They said they do not have one. I got a bill for 150 k for the shave.

I then walked to the Hau Giang Phuong St. I found two Hot Toc across from each other. Both had many girls in pretty uniforms. So, I when to the top one because I saw a girl was pretty. I asked them what was there rate there. They say they only do cut hair and shave, nothing else. So, I called the night a loss and will try again the next day, taxi and shave 350 k loss.

The next night, at 6 pm, I got a mototaxi to take me to Lotte Mart at quan 7. After getting something to eat there, I start walking north behind Lotte Mart on LE Van Luong St. I remember there were 200 k BJ Hot Toc on that road a few years ago. I went at night because I was hoping to see the BJ Hot Toc shops easy because they would be only shops still open that late, 7 pm. I walk up that road for 30 minutes and back down to double check, nothing. Then 30 min on Nguyen Thi Thap and back, also nothing.

I do not know if it is me but I think both areas are dead I got a mototaxi to take me baor am I just blind?

I got a mototaxi take me back to my hotel, but before I left. I ask the moto did he know any girls. He said sure. He will make a few calls. I told him I was looking to spent around 700 k. After waiting almost an hour he took me to an hourly hotel. He told me to get a room and wait for the girl. After, getting a room a girl knock on my door. She wanted 800 k I talk her down to 700 k. Pretty face, be cup, between normal and slim body, I think she was around 23 yrs old.

When we had sex, she was not very active and very quite. I want a BJ first. She only did it for 5 minutes, mostly hand and little mouth. I want her on top of me first. She said no and want me to do all the work. I get her to get on top later but for less then 5 minutes.

She was not good, OK at best. I would give both looks and service a 7. So the damage for the night was 80 k both way Lotte Mart, 100 k for ride both ways to hotel, hourly hotel was 60 k, girl was 700 k, and 100 k tip the moto driver for help getting the girl. Total = 1,040,000 dong.

Is this the current HCM? No more easy sex shop? Is my best and cheapest options now go to Benny for 400 k or Tran Nao Rd for 350 k, never been to them? Would it be better and Cheaper to hire a sex guide? If yes, any recommendation or tips would help?

[Tmackly]

I am a Vietnamese American. I do not have a lot of money, so can not go to HCM very often. The last time was three years ago. My favorite area was Giai Phong St. I remember there was three sex shop on that one road. Just go in and pick a girl, go upstairs, have sex and pay 500 k downstair. It was easy, nice clean room and good price. I have read that the prices have been going up since the last time I was there. I read it jumped to 600 k then maybe 800 k. So, when I went there I was expecting it would be 600 k or 800 k.

It was worst, they were all gone. Could not find them anymore. So, I was walked around all the streets in that area, Giai Phong St, Ba Vi St then Thang Long St, for an hour to see if they moved or if new sex shop opened up in that area. The one shop that looked like a sex shop was near the top end of Thang Long St. The shop had no signs, there was many pretty girls in red uniforms. I went in and they told me to sit down and started to give me a shave. After the shave I ask for a massage or to go to the back room. They said they do not have one. I got a bill for 150 k for the shave.

I then walked to the Hau Giang Phuong St. I found two Hot Toc across from each other. Both had many girls in pretty uniforms. So, I when to the top one because I saw a girl was pretty. I asked them what was there rate there. They say they only do cut hair and shave, nothing else. So, I called the night a loss and will try again the next day, taxi and shave 350 k loss.

The next night, at 6 pm, I got a mototaxi to take me to Lotte Mart at quan 7. After getting something to eat there, I start walking north behind Lotte Mart on LE Van Luong St. I remember there were 200 k BJ Hot Toc on that road a few years ago. I went at night because I was hoping to see the BJ Hot Toc shops easy because they would be only shops still open that late, 7 pm. I walk up that road for 30 minutes and back down to double check, nothing. Then 30 min on Nguyen Thi Thap and back, also nothing.How about giving 84 NPK a try? From what I've read on this forum, there have been some rave reviews. Let us know how that goes.

T

[NguyetLang]

I am a Vietnamese American. I do not have a lot of money, so can not go to HCM very often. The last time was three years ago. My favorite area was Giai Phong St. I remember there was three sex shop on that one road. Just go in and pick a girl, go upstairs, have sex and pay 500 k downstair. It was easy, nice clean room and good price. I have read that the prices have been going up since the last time I was there. I read it jumped to 600 k then maybe 800 k. So, when I went there I was expecting it would be 600 k or 800 k.

It was worst, they were all gone. Could not find them anymore. So, I was walked around all the streets in that area, Giai Phong St, Ba Vi St then Thang Long St, for an hour to see if they moved or if new sex shop opened up in that area. The one shop that looked like a sex shop was near the top end of Thang Long St. The shop had no signs, there was many pretty girls in red uniforms. I went in and they told me to sit down and started to give me a shave. After the shave I ask for a massage or to go to the back room. They said they do not have one. I got a bill for 150 k for the shave.

I then walked to the Hau Giang Phuong St. I found two Hot Toc across from each other. Both had many girls in pretty uniforms. So, I when to the top one because I saw a girl was pretty. I asked them what was there rate there. They say they only do cut hair and shave, nothing else. So, I called the night a loss and will try again the next day, taxi and shave 350 k loss.

The next night, at 6 pm, I got a mototaxi to take me to Lotte Mart at quan 7. After getting something to eat there, I start walking north behind Lotte Mart on LE Van Luong St. I remember there were 200 k BJ Hot Toc on that road a few years ago. I went at night because I was hoping to see the BJ Hot Toc shops easy because they would be only shops still open that late, 7 pm. I walk up that road for 30 minutes and back down to double check, nothing. Then 30 min on Nguyen Thi Thap and back, also nothing.

I do not know if it is me but I think both areas are dead I got a mototaxi to take me baor am I just blind?

I got a mototaxi take me back to my hotel, but before I left. I ask the moto did he know any girls. He said sure. He will make a few calls. I told him I was looking to spent around 700 k. After waiting almost an hour he took me to an hourly hotel. He told me to get a room and wait for the girl. After, getting a room a girl knock on my door. She wanted 800 k I talk her down to 700 k. Pretty face, be cup, between normal and slim body, I think she was around 23 yrs old.

When we had sex, she was not very active and very quite. I want a BJ first. She only did it for 5 minutes, mostly hand and little mouth. I want her on top of me first. She said no and want me to do all the work. I get her to get on top later but for less then 5 minutes.

She was not good, OK at best. I would give both looks and service a 7. So the damage for the night was 80 k both way Lotte Mart, 100 k for ride both ways to hotel, hourly hotel was 60 k, girl was 700 k, and 100 k tip the moto driver for help getting the girl. Total = 1,040,000 dong.

Is this the current HCM? No more easy sex shop? Is my best and cheapest options now go to Benny for 400 k or Tran Nao Rd for 350 k, never been to them? Would it be better and Cheaper to hire a sex guide? If yes, any recommendation or tips would help?After several rounds of cleanup, the industry, at least for local VNse speaking customers, have gone online, and they are thriving like you wouldn't believe.

If you speak / read Vietnamese, even just barely, I recommend the following websites, they come with pic, feedback, review, many details on each girl, the only draw back is that they are in Vietnamese. Most of the girls are also no-English.

http://thiendia.com/diendan/forumdisplay.php?f=198

http://kynu.net/gai-goi/

http://danchoi.xxx********18-Trung-Tam-Giai-Tri-Mien-Nam-Mien-Dong-Tay.html

Good luck and happy hunting.

Peter.

P.S. Also the sex shops have gone to Quan 10 and you will find them on either LE Hong Phong or Su Van Hanh as HTGD (barber shops), their price have gone up to 1 mil, give or take.

[Peter1066]

How about giving 84 NPK a try? From what I've read on this forum, there have been some rave reviews. Let us know how that goes.

TNPK is alive and well. Was there a few weeks ago, half way down the street, with the opaque doors. Massage, she wore a short yellow skirt, made sure I knew she had no panties on, then I licked her out until she clenched her thighs around me, blowjob, pulled back and all over her face. Shrieks of joy from another cubicle, think sex is probably available here. The usual 400 all up.

[NoImbecile]

NPK is alive and well. ...An understatement if I ever saw one. Thursday, I know of 6 expats were there (me included).

The gentleman in the cabin next to mine was getting the girl to slow down her awesomeness to make the best of his time (he was finishing just as I was starting).

There was obviously me.

Then there was the group of 4 gentleman (US / Canadian / Australian? ), 3 of whom were guzzling beer downstairs while the last was getting guzzled upstairs.

Then there were the locals (one who walked out as I walked in, and another who followed a quick release cycle).

[Amanintassie]

How about giving 84 NPK a try? From what I've read on this forum, there have been some rave reviews. Let us know how that goes.

TExcuse my ignorance, but what is 84 NPK?

[Amanintassie]

NPK is alive and well. Was there a few weeks ago, half way down the street, with the opaque doors. Massage, she wore a short yellow skirt, made sure I knew she had no panties on, then I licked her out until she clenched her thighs around me, blowjob, pulled back and all over her face. Shrieks of joy from another cubicle, think sex is probably available here. The usual 400 all up.Excuse my ignorance but what is NPK?

[XSilverTigerX]

NguyetLang,

I tried your websites. I look for a girl in my price range, 600 k. I called a girl up. In Vietnamese, ask if she had time for me tonight. She said yes. I ask what hotel I could meet her at. She ask me for the password. I told her it but she said it was wrong or I was saying it wrong. So, she would not meet me.

http://kynu.net/gai-goi/chi-tiet/1127/song-nhi-e-xinh-va-de-thuong

I tried again, I called Song Nhi. Her prices was also 600 k. She told me to get a room at Honey House hotel at 811 Lê Hồng Phong, Phư7901;ng 12, Hồ Chí Minh. So, I got a room there and the girl that came was nothing like the picture. The girl in the picture was skinny, long straight hair and cute breast. The girl that came to my room was short, average body, curly hair and bigger pointer breast. It was a total different girl. She was not pretty but not ugly, average a 6 maybe 7. Her BJ was good an 8. I bang her for 20 minutes. Paid her the 600 k and the hotel 80 k.

Was not the girl in the picture but only 680 k plus taxi.

Thanks again guys.

[Tmackly]

Excuse my ignorance but what is NPK?Nguyen PhI Kanh. It's a street.

[Wendella]

NguyetLang,

I tried your websites. I look for a girl in my price range, 600 k. I called a girl up. In Vietnamese, ask if she had time for me tonight. She said yes. I ask what hotel I could meet her at. She ask me for the password. I told her it but she said it was wrong or I was saying it wrong. So, she would not meet me.

http://kynu.net/gai-goi/chi-tiet/1127/song-nhi-e-xinh-va-de-thuong

I tried again, I called Song Nhi. Her prices was also 600 k. She told me to get a room at Honey House hotel at 811 L Hồng Phong, Phư7901;ng 12, Hồ Ch Minh. So, I got a room there and the girl that came was nothing like the picture. The girl in the picture was skinny, long straight hair and cute breast. The girl that came to my room was short, average body, curly hair and bigger pointer breast. It was a total different girl. She was not pretty but not ugly, average a 6 maybe 7. Her BJ was good an 8. I bang her for 20 minutes. Paid her the 600 k and the hotel 80 k.

Was not the girl in the picture but only 680 k plus taxi.

Thanks again guys.This actually sounds like a couple of bad experiences. I've never heard of a girl insisting on the password, or even asking for it at all. That's strange. Maybe she just wasn't keen on going with a foreigner. Just a guess. I always conduct all communication via SMS (smartphone, with Google Translate ready to go for all my translations). That might have prevented the girl from knowing you were a foreigner. And in the 2nd case, if the wrong girl showed up, I would have immediately sent an SMS to the same phone number saying that you want to meet the same girl as in the photo in the ad. For one, you will see if the girl in your room receives that SMS message -- if she does you can guess it was a fake ad -- if she doesn't, it means someone else has that phone number, so maybe original girl is off busy elsewhere. That happens, sometimes they will send a different girl if the original girl is busy. If you stand your ground, sometimes you can get to meet the correct girl if you are willing to wait. I had that happen to me 2 times, tho I didn't bother messaging to get the original girl. I just said sorry, you aren't the girl in the photo, and left. (once I gave the girl a small tip, which someone here pointed out was a mistake, so I wouldn't do that next time -0- the other time the girl who showed up was not attractive in any way, was just in the wrong line of work altogether, had no business working as a call girl, and was SO different than the girl in the picture it was insulting, so she got nothing.).

[ILoveChicas]

Well this isn't much of a report but it may start a useful discussion?

I'd seen a small and somewhat dimly lit bar named Cat Tuong. The place had a fairly open feel to it and tonight it was slow so I figured I wasn't f'ing up anyone's night by not knowing the situation.

I went in and say down and a women in her late 20's with a rocking body sit down and over the next 20 minutes or so kind of draped herself on me. I got some nice feels in and it was pretty relaxed.

Unfortunately, it became apparent, that was the entire program. Something to drink and some hang out time with this woman. I made any number of gestures and two guys who'd come in before me left but obviously nobody's getting anything there really.

I'm curious if anyone knows if there's a wide variety of Cat Tuongs? Is that just the nature of the dimly lit cafe / bar thing?

Any other experiences or clues on what to look for would be appreciated by me and possibly others.

[Wendella]

I'd seen a small and somewhat dimly lit bar named Cat Tuong. Discussion will be more useful if we can start to narrow down its location. It's in Vietnam? Any particular city? Was it on a street that had a name? If in Saigon, which district?

All we have so far is "Cat Tuong" and it was a bar, or at least you think so, it was a slow night and you got served by a relatively older girl who draped herself over you. Actually that makes it sound more like it's a cafe om, not a bar. What kind of seating in this place? Was it bar stools or a kind of lawn chairs?

[MutantChicken]

Discussion will be more useful if we can start to narrow down its location. It's in Vietnam? Any particular city? Was it on a street that had a name? If in Saigon, which district?

All we have so far is "Cat Tuong" and it was a bar, or at least you think so, it was a slow night and you got served by a relatively older girl who draped herself over you. Actually that makes it sound more like it's a cafe om, not a bar. What kind of seating in this place? Was it bar stools or a kind of lawn chairs?It doesn't read like a cafe om to me, there are so many things that dispell that idea. To me its more like the new breed of bars that took over from bin bin, etc where the girls are there for company, for lady drinks and to help you buy more drinks. Cafe om are not something you kinda stumble into and there is no bar as no alcohol is served. And these places are found only in the outskirts of HCMC and given the posted previous problems tracking down some BBBJ places ID doubt he is now exploring.

[Wendella]

It doesn't read like a cafe om to me, there are so many things that dispell that idea. To me its more like the new breed of bars that took over from bin bin, etc where the girls are there for company, for lady drinks and to help you buy more drinks. Cafe om are not something you kinda stumble into and there is no bar as no alcohol is served. And these places are found only in the outskirts of HCMC and given the posted previous problems tracking down some BBBJ places ID doubt he is now exploring.Yeah ok but sprawling over the guy, that's typical cafe om thing. D1 bars like 29 maybe. Others not so much. Cat Tuong? Don't know one by that name. Maybe the guy will clarify.

[ILoveChicas]

Yeah ok but sprawling over the guy, that's typical cafe om thing. D1 bars like 29 maybe. Others not so much. Cat Tuong? Don't know one by that name. Maybe the guy will clarify.Thanks for responding. BTW I'm not being intentionally vague I just took a chance on a place that looked interesting. There may not have been any alcohol at all on premises now that you mention it. I was offered a coffee energy drink type thing and decided that's what I wanted rather than complicate things at the outset.

The interior layout consisted of about 8 sets of a small table and two folding chairs together facing the street (no bar stools). Everybody faced the front opening of the place and more or less watched a TV that hung above the entryway.

I thought "cat toung" indicated it was a particular kind of bar not a name like Jimmy's Bar. Again, it's hard to know less than me in Vietnam.

On the face of it, it sounds like a new type of bar heh? I really don't think anything more is offered. Feel up an attractive woman for 30 minutes and head home. No heavy pressure to buy another drink from what I could tell. Out on Hong Bang, maybe as far as district 12?

[Wendella]

It doesn't read like a cafe om to me, there are so many things that dispell that idea. To me its more like the new breed of bars that took over from bin bin, etc where the girls are there for company, for lady drinks and to help you buy more drinks. Cafe om are not something you kinda stumble into and there is no bar as no alcohol is served. And these places are found only in the outskirts of HCMC and given the posted previous problems tracking down some BBBJ places ID doubt he is now exploring.I woulda edited my post but I can't, ISG blocks me doing that. He didn't actually mention that there was an actual bar in the place, he called the place a bar and then a bar / cafe, or that anyone had alcohol. District 8 cafe oms are fairly central, tho yeah a weird place for a newbie to show up. The "new breed" of bars, you mean the ones like Voodoo or the cruddy ghosts of the HBT bars. THOSE (HBT) sure do have old girls in them, so that's possible. Man I wouldn't want one of those draped over me. No sir. No thank you.

[Milkweed]

Went in and asked for a "goi dau". Two girls present, each about a 7 on a good day. Was pointed upstairs. Got an unremarkable shampoo. The girl was friendly and made chit chat in Vietnamese. After that, she asked if I wanted a massage. I agreed and she gave a decent massage. After that she asked if I wanted a tug. I said sure. She said that this was between me and her and don't mention it downstairs. I agreed. She allowed fingering. Tug was good but a little rushed as she seemed nervous about someone coming up. After, she mentioned that we could meet at a hotel sometime and we exchanged numbers. Went downstairs and saw that they had real haircut customers. The shampoo was 50,000, massage 100,000, tip 100,000. Total 250,000.

[Wendella]

On the face of it, it sounds like a new type of bar heh? I really don't think anything more is offered. Feel up an attractive woman for 30 minutes and head home. No heavy pressure to buy another drink from what I could tell. Out on Hong Bang, maybe as far as district 12?This really sounds like it's a cafe om of the hug-only type. (not the BJ type). It's not a bar. There's probably no alcohol there. I can see where you could think it was a bar going there for the first time, because they're dark.

[Asian Lover Oz]

Will be posting a few reviews of my recent Saigon experiences.

First review is of Nguyen Phi Khan Street. There are at least 10-15 Hot Toc places all along this street. That seem to start opening around 11 am, but you will get more options as the afternoon progresses.

Originally taken there at night by my Viet guide, but went back a couple of times. The pimps out the front will welcome you in and if you act ignorant like me, just go in and have a look. If you don't like the goods, just smile say thanks and walk out. Not speaking Viet is actually a plus in this case, as you won't understand when they curse at you for not staying.

In the end I only participated with shop #84. It's a standard price 400 K for BBBJ (and CIM in my case). Tried twice, both experiences were great. Friendly girls, friendly mama, nice big room and great service. The 2nd time I went there I took 2 girls up for a double BBBJ / CIM fantasy session. 800 K bargain (compared to what I paid in little Tokyo on another day).

Other shops along the street had some cuties too, but I can't recharge fast enough to try out so many shops.

[CRLuverGuy]

Do you remember their names? I've been to a handful of other places on NPK and 84 is the best overall.

A few weeks ago there were more than a six girls in the early eve and three of them were 8's or 9's and I'm somewhat picky too.


Will be posting a few reviews of my recent Saigon experiences.

First review is of Nguyen Phi Khan Street. There are at least 10-15 Hot Toc places all along this street. That seem to start opening around 11 am, but you will get more options as the afternoon progresses.

Originally taken there at night by my Viet guide, but went back a couple of times. The pimps out the front will welcome you in and if you act ignorant like me, just go in and have a look. If you don't like the goods, just smile say thanks and walk out. Not speaking Viet is actually a plus in this case, as you won't understand when they curse at you for not staying.

In the end I only participated with shop #84. It's a standard price 400 K for BBBJ (and CIM in my case). Tried twice, both experiences were great. Friendly girls, friendly mama, nice big room and great service. The 2nd time I went there I took 2 girls up for a double BBBJ / CIM fantasy session. 800 K bargain (compared to what I paid in little Tokyo on another day).

Other shops along the street had some cuties too, but I can't recharge fast enough to try out so many shops.

[CRLuverGuy]

A few weeks ago I showed up at Benny's and it was no different from 8 months ago. A few girls in the front not to my liking so I asked to see more. A few min later about five more girls all in 20's came from back and upstairs and I saw two of them 8's or so. I picked the see cup and she also had a cute smile.

I drop 200 k at counter to old lady. We went up a flight into a stall. She pulls curtains starts taking off my clothes except for shorts. They started keeping on bottom of your feet. In case of fast getaway I suppose.

Anyway she did an excellent BBBJ to CIM and never stopped. She went to spit and came back and wiped me clean with wet towelettes. She gave me a nice hug I tipped her 200 k and she was ok with it. We walked down to front hopped on my scooter as she waved bye and I left.

Overall I think NPK has better looking girls but the job was as good here.

Enjoy all!

[Asian Lover Oz]

Do you remember their names?.Of the girls at #84 ? No idea, all generic Viet names to me like Ngoc, Nha, Ngang.

On the 2 times I went there, was able to select from around 8 girls. All very nice. Esp for the price and these girls are real BJ technicians.

[Tmackly]

So I've been going to 86 NPK for the past 2 weeks now. I've been seeing this girl named Nga. She's awesome. So anyways, today around 9 pm, I walked in and there was a line up of guys, now I'm not the one to wait around and be someone's sloppy second. I know what everyone's thinking, but it's the mental thing. So anyways, as I was contemplating on waiting, there was this foreigner who was being a douche. The manager was requesting for him to sit down and wait, he was giving some BS attitude telling people how he didn't like it when people ordered him to sit. He'll sit when he wants to sit. Guys, come the fuck on. Stop being idiots. Please! There's no need to act that way. Just relax and be polite. There's a language barrier. He didn't mean to be rude, do there's no need to get offended. Just sit your ass down and relax. People like this will ruin it for the rest of the foreigners.

[Tmackly]

So after realizing that 86 NPK was full, decided that I would rather go else where for a quick blow. So I walked back a few places down and saw this other Gio Dau place. I asked the door man how much, he said 400 k. I said 300 K and he said OK. So he opened the door and this old nasty looking woman, probably in her 40's with dark teeth tried to lead me up the stairs. I looked up the stairs and said to her in Vietnamese "I'll come back tomorrow" and left. I called a Xe Om and asked him to bring me to 110 (Benny's).

We arrived at Benny's. I walked in and all of a sudden this gorgeous girl walked up to me and led me to the sitting area. She then said to me 400 k. I said to her in Vietnamese "I will pay when the deed is done". She said that's not how it works here. So figuring how the last few places I went to was either busy or full of crappy ugly old ladies, I took my chances with this one. So I gave her the 400 k. I was then led upstairs to this massage table. I started taking off my clothes and the girl stopped me. She says that's not how it works here, please put your clothes back on and lay on the table facing up. I was a little stunned. I didn't come here for a rub down. Then I heard a sucking and moaning noise. That's when I was like "OK. I'm ready when you are! ". She smiled and unzipped my shorts and pulled my shorts and boxers to my ankles and started to wipe me down. Then she unzipped her top and pulled them down, exposing her huge tits. OMG. Those things were fantastic. Then I reached up her dress and pulled her panties down and grabbing and rubbing her snatch. She then started licking my nipples and gently rubbing my cock. After a few minutes I got bored so I pushed her head down and she says to me I guess you're ready to get sucked. Yes I am. At this point, am as hard and ready as I will ever be. So then moves to the balls. Started sucking and licking them. Then onto the shaft. She started sucking ever so gracefully. I was pushing her head down and she was giving me this wicked deep throat. I never in my wildest dreams have ever imagined a Vietnamese girl even consider doing deep throat. But this girl did it and man did it feel good.

So after I blew my load in her mouth, she continued sucking for an additional 10 seconds or so. Then off I went. What a great experience.

[FritsVanegter]

Hello,

Did visit this shop 3 days in a row.

First day I did get a bigger room and the girl appointed to me did a real good job. She did put one leg up on the bench while standing so I could touch her pussy really well.

The second day I got a smaller cabin and was offered to choose the girl myself. Again nice session.

The third day I did go for 2 girls. In fact when I talked to the first one she suggested to take 2. The girl did know her job very well but somehow I didn't get excited. The girls start talking Vietnamese probably about me. I want to touch one of the girls sexy fruits but all she could say was red.

Somehow it feed go downhill and I said we stop. They did look a bit scared, disappointed thinking I was going to Champlain to the manager after I did ask their names again. I didn't.

They did not want me to come in their face or hair so they covered their hair with a towel when kneeling down and were expecting me to cum.

Next time I will just repeat girl one or two or ask the manager which girl can do CIM.

After that did go other shop in the same street 111 b. Some nice girls there too. But the girls are not as naughty as I want them to be LOL.

It is of course also a bit of chemistry but if you cont speak their language it is a but hard.

Greetings.

[Tmackly]

Hello,

Did visit this shop 3 days in a row.

First day I did get a bigger room and the girl appointed to me did a real good job. She did put one leg up on the bench while standing so I could touch her pussy really well.

The second day I got a smaller cabin and was offered to choose the girl myself. Again nice session.

The third day I did go for 2 girls. In fact when I talked to the first one she suggested to take 2. The girl did know her job very well but somehow I didn't get excited. The girls start talking Vietnamese probably about me. I want to touch one of the girls sexy fruits but all she could say was red.

Somehow it feed go downhill and I said we stop. They did look a bit scared, disappointed thinking I was going to Champlain to the manager after I did ask their names again. I didn't..I prefer 86. Girls there are nicer and better looking. I had Nga a few times. She's really perky and fun.

[Higgins69]

I'm hoping to find a good place close to home in Thao Dien so I can visit more often.

[FritsVanegter]

Hello,

I think 86 is the number of the coffee shop next door.

Today did pay another visit. Did take the girl from my first visit plus another one. They did work more as a team.

Names were Nhi and Nha but hot were afraid as hell to get any cum on their face or hair.

Nga wasn't there. I want to have a session with a girl that will allow CIM preferably also swallow.

Will ask the guy sitting outside using google translate.

Some girls continue playing with their phones are watching Vietnamese soap after you enter. But only need a few to make a choice. It is not like snow white in BKK but in HCMC the girls are surely better looking. No stretch marks, firm tits and so far only dense jungle between the tights.

While drinking coffee next door did only see Vietnamese men go inside.

To me this place is a bargain but the girls should be more naughty!

Friday will probably pay another visit and try to find Nga.

Greetings.

[Higgins69]

35 V Th SU, & a Kao, Qu 1, I hope I got the address right, I was taken here by a moto bike guy I now and this was the first time I got him to take me somewhere like this so as I was leaving I checked the location on my phone and made a not of landmarks as we were leaving, the Citilight Tower was just a short way further down the road.

I've put this in the Hot Toc section because that's what it said above the door and they do have the barber chairs but this was not one of those places like Benny's where you just go in, get sucked off and leave.

My driver did the negotiation for me and he knew I wanted full access and not just a quick BJ. I will say the place is a bit grotty but bearable, after all I wasn't there for the decor.

Once the negotiation was done I was told the fee was 1 m total, that was for massage, sex and tip, not cheap but cheap enough to still be pocket change so no problem and I agreed. Then 5 girls were called through for me to choose one, all OK looking, no stunners but all doable, I chose the cutest one, body 8/10.

I was led upstairs to a small room with a massage table and a hair washing basin, after all this is meant to be a Hot Toc. She told me to undress and get on the massage table while she went and got ready, she seemed a little surprised to find me totally naked when she returned, maybe other guys leave their shorts on but well we both know it's going in her mouth so she might as well see it at the start.

The massage was poor but she let me feel her up all I wanted and after a short while I just wanted to get on with it as I was getting nothing out of the massage. I got her to take her dress off and she had on a nice sexy matched bra and knicker set, I motioned for to stand back and let me look at her and she did have a good body, I reached out and got her spread her legs and I took her hand and put it in her knickers for her to play with herself which she willingly did. Anyway moving on she was clearly up for anything and keen to please, she was a fantastic kisser and I even had her gagging on my tongue, fantastic.

The highlight was one of the most amazing 69's I've ever had, she clearly loved having her pussy eaten, I'd got her wet before she got on top and once I started on her clit she just went off and started pushing her pussy in my face, she was working my cock nice and slow, she clearly wanted me to last until after she had cum and it wasn't long until she had tensed up and her thighs tightened, I even tried my luck and pushed a finger in her arse and she ever loved it or was an Oscar winning actor.

So to sum up, grotty place, lame massage but fantastic sex from a very enthusiastic girl so not sure if I'd ever go back.

[AmericanThief]

I've noticed we have some new members here and some guys who make the rounds to all the forum threads.

Please stop posting addresses and stop being so explicit in your reports because the boys in green want to keep this business on the down low. As long as everything is quiet its fine, but I've been here 4 years, and I've seen these places get raided about the same time there was a lot of activity on the forums and too much explicit talk about what and where things are happening.

So please for the love of Saigon, use code words, abbreviations and such. Feel free to send exact details through private messaging. I've seen Benny's closed 3 or 4 times since I've lived here and I don't want to be the sorry guy who's getting served when they come busting in either.

Please be more discreet when posting on a public forum like this.

[TomSf]

OK, I'm in Vietnam. I have not been here since last year. I noticed a lot has changed. Some places have closed and some new ones have opened. At the suggestion of American Thief I agree and will not post addresses. In Vietnam the two biggest things I can recommend is having exact change. If you give a big bill to the Hot Toc ect it just causes you problems. Second, there are two sides of Vietnam. If you come here as a tourist and just ask how much is the massage etc. You will get treated like a sucker. You will be fined and penalized for being stupid. You instead ask what is the price or cost of a ticket? The bill will shrink down from 500,000 to 150,000. I did get charged 250,000 for a ticket at one place and just was not in the mood to fight over a few dollars. But, maybe that was the ticket cost just seemed a little high. I went to District 3 today. Many many hot tocs. Cost is usually 125-150 for ticket and for a BJ yum yum it is 300,000. 300 is what seems to be the price girls are happy with. Some people posted cheaper but I am happy paying 300. If they think you don't know what the real price is you will pay from 500,000 to 1 million. Very hard to find FS. I did find it in a hot toc and the cost is 1 million. Some girls if they think you are clueless will ask for a tip after you already paid. You never pay any more tip. Now at some places guys lead you to the room and want 50-100,000. I am not sure how to deal with that. The guys will refuse to leave. At the FS place I found last year that was like filled with gangsters. There was a guy that took my money and refused to give me change. I had to chase him down and then he gave me an attitude for not letting him rob me. That place was closed down. I went to a different place down the street from the old place that closed down and guess who was working there and lead me to the room. It was him. He leads me to the room and wants 50,000 just for walking me to the room. I tipped him 15,000 which is the cost of maybe and ice tea. He was pissed and walked out. Anyway, sometimes no matter where you are there will be a guy attendant that walks you to the room or shower etc. They will start a scam by saying you want a beautiful girl right? You want good service from her right? You want boom boom right? Tip me and I will make sure you get real good service. He has nothing to do with anything. He is just trying to make money of the side.

There was a massage place I went to last year in district 3. This chick oiled me up stood on my back and slid back and forth. It was the best massage I ever got. She wanted 500 for a HJ and that all she did. I declined but still tipped her 200 for that massage. It was unbelievable. I went back to that place expecting the same service. This time the girl puts no oil on me. The massage sucked. She offered at the end a HJ or BBBJ. Cost of BBBJ was 500. I reluctantly agreed. She would just put the tip and and it was mostly a HJ. I told her want I wanted and she refused. I got up after like 3 seconds and said I'm leaving I will tip. I tipped her 300,000 and left. As I was leaving two guys run up asking me if I liked the massage and if the girl was beautiful. She was pretty. But I told them no I did not like the massage. That stopped everything right their and they did not ask me for any tip. The bathroom guy wanted 50,000. If I remember last year they had a tip slip and it started at 20,000. The smaller bill I had was like 50,000 so I just gave it to them. I just wanted to get out of there. Worried a little bit about the girl I walked out on.

On a side note. I went out eat last night at an outdoor restaurant. This Viet guy sat down at my table and started to talk to me. He was like 24 years old. He invited me to eat with him and his friends. I was waiting for him to scam me somehow. Then he wanted to buy me a beer and I told him I don't drink. Really weird. He goes back to his table and grabbed a fresh pork dish untouched. He puts in on my table and says this is a gift. He then says when the bill comes do not pay for it. Just pay for what you ordered. It was excellent pork. I don't know what that was about. Maybe he ordered me dog or something. But I don't think so. Anyway, no scam he was just know. I thanked him on my way out and left.

My trip continues.

[Geneva Guy]

OK, I'm in Vietnam. I have not been here since last year. I noticed a lot has changed. Some places have closed and some new ones have opened. At the suggestion of American Thief I agree and will not post addresses. In Vietnam the two biggest things I can recommend is having exact change. If you give a big bill to the Hot Toc ect it just causes you problems. Second, there are two sides of Vietnam. If you come here as a tourist and just ask how much is the massage etc. You will get treated like a sucker. You will be fined and penalized for being stupid. You instead ask what is the price or cost of a ticket? The bill will shrink down from 500,000 to 150,000. I did get charged 250,000 for a ticket at one place and just was not in the mood to fight over a few dollars. But, maybe that was the ticket cost just seemed a little high. I went to District 3 today. Many many hot tocs. Cost is usually 125-150 for ticket and for a BJ yum yum it is 300,000. 300 is what seems to be the price girls are happy with. Some people posted cheaper but I am happy paying 300. If they think you don't know what the real price is you will pay from 500,000 to 1 million. Very hard to find FS. I did find it in a hot toc and the cost is 1 million. Some girls if they think you are clueless will ask for a tip after you already paid. You never pay any more tip. Now at some places guys lead you to the room and want 50-100,000. I am not sure how to deal with that. The guys will refuse to leave. At the FS place I found last year that was like filled with gangsters. There was a guy that took my money and refused to give me change. I had to chase him down and then he gave me an attitude for not letting him rob me. That place was closed down. I went to a different place down the street from the old place that closed down and guess who was working there and lead me to the room. It was him. He leads me to the room and wants 50,000 just for walking me to the room. I tipped him 15,000 which is the cost of maybe and ice tea. He was pissed and walked out. Anyway, sometimes no matter where you are there will be a guy attendant that walks you to the room or shower etc. They will start a scam by saying you want a beautiful girl right? You want good service from her right? You want boom boom right? Tip me and I will make sure you get real good service. He has nothing to do with anything. He is just trying to make money of the side.

There was a massage place I went to last year in district 3. This chick oiled me up stood on my back and slid back and forth. It was the best massage I ever got. She wanted 500 for a HJ and that all she did. I declined but still tipped her 200 for that massage. It was unbelievable. I went back to that place expecting the same service. This time the girl puts no oil on me. The massage sucked. She offered at the end a HJ or BBBJ. Cost of BBBJ was 500. I reluctantly agreed. She would just put the tip and and it was mostly a HJ. I told her want I wanted and she refused. I got up after like 3 seconds and said I'm leaving I will tip. I tipped her 300,000 and left. As I was leaving two guys run up asking me if I liked the massage and if the girl was beautiful. She was pretty. But I told them no I did not like the massage. That stopped everything right their and they did not ask me for any tip. The bathroom guy wanted 50,000. If I remember last year they had a tip slip and it started at 20,000. The smaller bill I had was like 50,000 so I just gave it to them. I just wanted to get out of there. Worried a little bit about the girl I walked out on.

My trip continues.LOL.

I don't drink either and the vietnamese say "A man that doesn't drink alcohol is like a flag without wind".

I am amazed at all the beer the people in the south drink, men and women. There is a huge alcohol and cigarette problem in VN as per the medical literature, cheap beer and cigarettes. Especially drinking and driving (they call drink driving).

GG.

[AmericanThief]

OK, I'm in Vietnam. I have not been here since last year. I noticed a lot has changed. Some places have closed and some new ones have opened. At the suggestion of American Thief I agree and will not post addresses. In Vietnam the two biggest things I can recommend is having exact change. If you give a big bill to the Hot Toc ect it just causes you problems. Second, there are two sides of Vietnam. If you come here as a tourist and just ask how much is the massage etc. You will get treated like a sucker. You will be fined and penalized for being stupid. You instead ask what is the price or cost of a ticket? The bill will shrink down from 500,000 to 150,000. I did get charged 250,000 for a ticket at one place and just was not in the mood to fight over a few dollars. But, maybe that was the ticket cost just seemed a little high. I went to District 3 today. Many many hot tocs. Cost is usually 125-150 for ticket and for a BJ yum yum it is 300,000. 300 is what seems to be the price girls are happy with. Some people posted cheaper but I am happy paying 300. If they think you don't know what the real price is you will pay from 500,000 to 1 million. Very hard to find FS. I did find it in a hot toc and the cost is 1 million. Some girls if they think you are clueless will ask for a tip after you already paid. You never pay any more tip. Now at some places guys lead you to the room and want 50-100,000. I am not sure how to deal with that. The guys will refuse to leave. At the FS place I found last year that was like filled with gangsters. There was a guy that took my money and refused to give me change. I had to chase him down and then he gave me an attitude for not letting him rob me. That place was closed down. I went to a different place down the street from the old place that closed down and guess who was working there and lead me to the room. It was him. He leads me to the room and wants 50,000 just for walking me to the room. I tipped him 15,000 which is the cost of maybe and ice tea. He was pissed and walked out. Anyway, sometimes no matter where you are there will be a guy attendant that walks you to the room or shower etc. They will start a scam by saying you want a beautiful girl right? You want good service from her right? You want boom boom right? Tip me and I will make sure you get real good service. He has nothing to do with anything. He is just trying to make money of the side.

There was a massage place I went to last year in district 3. This chick oiled me up stood on my back and slid back and forth. It was the best massage I ever got. She wanted 500 for a HJ and that all she did. I declined but still tipped her 200 for that massage..TLDR- I stopped when you said very hard to find FS. Here is where I know that you don't know.

[TomSf]

TLDR- I stopped when you said very hard to find FS. Here is where I know that you don't know.American Theif,

I am not really sure what your post means. Vietnam is no Thailand. 100's of Hookers are not just standing on the corner waiting for you to pick them up. There are the motor bike girls. But, the problem with them is they speak very little English so very hard to negotiate where to meet you etc with out drawing too much attention to yourself. So if you feel safe to hop of the back of their bike and go to a place they take you be my guest. I won't do that. In hot tocs the girls are basically independent freelancers. Some maybe 10 out of 100 will do FS and it will be rushed. Most of the time it is just a BBBJ. There are we chat girls.

Anyway, I did get a motor bike girl today. She had a woman driver that spoke good English. I keep my hotel card in my back pocket for situations like this. I gave the tout my hotel card and said just meet me here in 5 minutes. She drove off in front of me. Which was great because many people on the sidewalks watching us. They meet me at my hotel. As she walks in the front desk guy stops her and they ask for her ID. She gives it to them and she follows me to my room. She wanted money first but I convinced her money after. She was OK with that. Very nice experience. After she left I went back out to get something to drink and there she is again making circles on her bike waving Hi to me as she drives by. Kind of funny.

So I eat at this restaurant tonight after the motor bike girl. As I leave the restaurant this young guys about 23-24 years old starts talking to me in his broken English walking with me. He asks why I'm in Vietnam and how I like it etc. I notice his friend following us about 5 feet behind me. His friend was extremely small like 5'4 and 90 pounds. I was tracking him behind me. So then the guy that is walking with me ask me to help him. I'm thinking what do you want money? He said that a girl that he likes is waiting for him in this apartment building that we are in front of. He said he wants me to go in the apartment building with him and tell this girl that he loves her. This is the worst line I have ever heard in my life. If you want to rob me buddy get a better line. I did not feel in danger by him. Maybe there was a hooker inside or something. But, something was wrong. I told him sorry and kept on walking.

[MeSoHornie]

Nonsense. The whole point of this thread is to share information. Like the men in green don't already know where these places are. Please. The sex trade drives Saigon. The only reason Benny's may close is because some corrupt cop didn't get his cut. It has nothing to do with this site. Nada. I encourage people to share good info. Use abbreviations for streets, sure, but don't hide the goods. Benny's is great, but variety is the spice of life.


I've noticed we have some new members here and some guys who make the rounds to all the forum threads.

Please stop posting addresses and stop being so explicit in your reports because the boys in green want to keep this business on the down low. As long as everything is quiet its fine, but I've been here 4 years, and I've seen these places get raided about the same time there was a lot of activity on the forums and too much explicit talk about what and where things are happening..

[MutantChicken]

Nonsense. The whole point of this thread is to share information. Like the men in green don't already know where these places are. Please. The sex trade drives Saigon. The only reason Benny's may close is because some corrupt cop didn't get his cut. It has nothing to do with this site. Nada. I encourage people to share good info. Use abbreviations for streets, sure, but don't hide the goods. Benny's is great, but variety is the spice of life.Why is it always the guys who call nonsense and advocating unrestricted sharing the same guys who have zero reports and shared nothing themselves.

[MeSoHornie]

Bogus logic, mate, and doesn't address my point about why his admonitions about revealing concrete info are completely irrelevant for the handful of times Benny's seems to have closed (funny, that, how it always somehow manages to open right back up). Now, to answer your question, I absolutely would share more if I could, but I'm relatively new in residence here. I visited for short periods several years ago, but had never lived here before now. So once I learn the lay of the land, I will certainly be forthcoming with my info. Count on it.


Why is it always the guys who call nonsense and advocating unrestricted sharing the same guys who have zero reports and shared nothing themselves.

[Higgins69]

Nonsense. The whole point of this thread is to share information. Like the men in green don't already know where these places are. Please. The sex trade drives Saigon. The only reason Benny's may close is because some corrupt cop didn't get his cut. It has nothing to do with this site. Nada. I encourage people to share good info. Use abbreviations for streets, sure, but don't hide the goods. Benny's is great, but variety is the spice of life.I totally agree, of course the men in green know where they are and I've been told this by a local that has taken me to full service places. Benny's is a great example as it's talked about on so many websites, one that I read even had a google maps link because people were having trouble finding it because the street numbers were repeated in a neighboring district. To think that if we write in code somehow only us expats would be able to understand it and the men in green would be too stupid to understand is extremely naive. If we give enough info for an expat to find the place and to know what services are available the men in green will also understand and if we don't give the info then what's the point of this forum? If we post without giving a location then is it just to boast? Are we then meant to pm the member to ask for the location remembering the men in green are too stupid to join and pm? This then throws up another issue as we already have a member that will charge you for his information.

[Ecchi]

I totally agree, of course the men in green know where they are and I've been told this by a local that has taken me to full service places. Benny's is a great example as it's talked about on so many websites, one that I read even had a google maps link because people were having trouble finding it because the street numbers were repeated in a neighboring district. To think that if we write in code somehow only us expats would be able to understand it and the men in green would be too stupid to understand is extremely naive. If we give enough info for an expat to find the place and to know what services are available the men in green will also understand and if we don't give the info then what's the point of this forum? If we post without giving a location then is it just to boast? Are we then meant to pm the member to ask for the location remembering the men in green are too stupid to join and pm? This then throws up another issue as we already have a member that will charge you for his information.At the point of beating dead horse. When it comes to illicit business of corruption, LE (and Custom Dept) in developing countries are highly advanced / motivated. In other matters including do the job they swore an oath to, they can often times be unbelievably dumb. But I've seen inner working for LE in Thailand and VN and it's amazing how well organized they are at identifying prospects (MP, karaoke, and the likes) and not just follow up with with them (monthly legal extortion), but upselling (I. E. Oh we have New Year party coming and need donation for raffles).

I remember how LE in Bangkok contacted new hidden MP (those house type in neighborhood with zero sign). Less than 2 weeks after it opened! Most punters don't even know about it yet but here comes our beloved early adopters LE.

For custom, man, these guys know more about luxury brands (including esoteric ones) than average female shoppers. And know their retail worth (so they can properly extract right percentage for it). Too bad these diligent works only applied to corruption / extortion.

So, please share away if LE is your reason for not doing so. However, if you're concerned about some idiotic bros ruining your watering hole. Then that's personal discretion.

[Higgins69]

Tried a new place today, I was taken here by my 'tour guide' so I hope I got the number right, it was definitely the infamous NPK we here so much about and I looked at the number above the door as we left and it said 142. It was on the right just before the slight corner. I tried searching for any info on this place on here and I couldn't find any so I thought I'd share. Downstairs there is just motorbike parking and you have to go up 1 floor for where the girls are and you get serviced on the 2 floors above that. The choice of girls was OK, I chose 2 and I'd say they were 8/10.

Both had great tits, some of the best I'd had and they did a decent BBBJ and CIM but other than that it was fairly rubbish, it was rushed and they just went through their routine, every time I touched them they moaned with pleasure which was just very bad acting, no girl ever moans with pleasure the instant you touch their tits. It's the first time I got 2 girls and it was very disappointing and they kept talking to each other in Vietnamese. It wasn't awful but I wouldn't go back.

[Asian Lover Oz]

Quick one. My very last day in Saigon made a flying visit to NPK before the airport.

Was around 11 am, #68 was open and had 3 awesome girls avail. Was trying to decide, then a 4th rode her motobike in. Wow a total teen like body and cute face! Sold to ALO for 400 K. Amazed she was actually 22.

All girls / boss there were friendly. Another one to add to your lists.

[PlayGuide2016]

Quick one. My very last day in Saigon made a flying visit to NPK before the airport.

Was around 11 am, #68 was open and had 3 awesome girls avail. Was trying to decide, then a 4th rode her motobike in. Wow a total teen like body and cute face! Sold to ALO for 400 K. Amazed she was actually 22.

All girls / boss there were friendly. Another one to add to your lists.I have had a new Goi Dau that have FS in there, just PM me if you want the information.

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[Cm6363]

After reviewing the forum and reports of distinction, I am hoping for a suggestion on my last day in HCMC. I am staying by the river in District 1, 5 minutes by moto and Southeast of Bin Tanh.

It seems FS is rarely on the menu, but would be my preference if it were easy to find. The BJ value offering works fine though. Also, I haven't seen any posts that are less than 15 minutes from District 1. Of the following places I found below, where would you choose to go? (It would also help if there was a little shopping nearby. I could go twice today and avoid Bin Tanh again if I can).

Nguyen Phi Khan Street.

Khch Sạand Kathy hotel - 795, L Hồng Phong P. 12, Q. 10.

LE Van Luong St & 15St, District 7.

(Bai Vi Street, Tan Binh District, near airport is probably too far, but would you be comfortable going to one of these places with all your bags at 2:30 pm before flying?

[NguyetLang]

After reviewing the forum and reports of distinction, I am hoping for a suggestion on my last day in HCMC. I am staying by the river in District 1, 5 minutes by moto and Southeast of Bin Tanh.

It seems FS is rarely on the menu, but would be my preference if it were easy to find. The BJ value offering works fine though. Also, I haven't seen any posts that are less than 15 minutes from District 1. Of the following places I found below, where would you choose to go? (It would also help if there was a little shopping nearby. I could go twice today and avoid Bin Tanh again if I can).

Nguyen Phi Khan Street.

Khch Sạand Kathy hotel - 795, L Hồng Phong P. 12, Q. 10.

LE Van Luong St & 15St, District 7.

(Bai Vi Street, Tan Binh District, near airport is probably too far, but would you be comfortable going to one of these places with all your bags at 2:30 pm before flying?In my experience FS is more available at LE Hong Phong, most if not all, are FS. The level of service varies greatly (definitely YMMV). I used it mainly for quickies so I have no complain thus far. If you expect true GFE in Vietnam, it takes some time, may be repeat visits to get the girl warm up to you. Vietnamese women are slow to warm up, but once they are, they can be really hot.

I would NOT take any luggage to any of these places. You are safer just ask the hotel to keep your luggage after check out, go have your fun, and come back later to claim your luggage. Most hotel in D1 will do this for free, some would even do it for several days if you go on tours. Good luck.

Peter