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Stroker Ace88
06-15-12, 07:13
Mactan places can be very nice. I believe any white sand beach you see has been shipped over from Bohol or elsewhere. I prefer Bohol over Mactan beaches. Ocean Jet ferry (used to be Pier 1) should get you to Tagbilaran in about 90min and then a taxi to Alona beach (or elsewhere). In your price range you might have to settle for something off the beach. There are numerous hotels with varying prices in the Alona beach area. You could probably just go there and walk around and find a place.There are a few small bits of whitish-beige sand to be found on Mactan, but not many. Most white sand is trucked in and has washed out into the surrounding water with the shifting tide like around Shangri-La.
Pandanon island is a 40min banca ride from the Punta Engano area and has the best stretch of white sand close to Cebu City. Entry fee 150p per person. Book a cottage for 250p. A great place to enjoy lunch or a beautiful sunset.
Been in Cebu a week now. Lots of fun. SNIP Not sure where to go now. Thinking about visiting Bohol. Any advice on girls and where to stay there? (1-1. 500 p range). Or is Lapu Lapu a better choice in your opinion? Heard good things about both places, but also that the girls aren't as easily accessible. Any truth to that?Bongster.
I have stayed at a couple of the Mactan resorts and I agree with SA88, the beaches were uninspiring and unattractive, there was hardly any surf where I stayed and the sea was so calm you could hardly see a ripple on the surface. It was just totally underwhelming each of the three times I stayed there and added to that it is very overpriced. As for girls in Lapu Lapu, a large percentage frequent DIA so you will have no problem meeting girls from there, but far better to stay in Cebu City and pay their taxi fare IMHO.
Another option is Moalboal but it is about 3. 5 hours by bus, but the beach and the sea there is perfect if you want a beach vacation and they have a resort dedicated for diving if that is your thing. But like Bohol you need to take your own girl as options for pick ups there are very limited.
I'm thinking about a trip to Camotes next time I'm in Cebu. Has anyone been there? X
Bongster.
Another option is Moalboal but it is about 3. 5 hours by bus, but the beach and the sea there is perfect if you want a beach vacation and they have a resort dedicated for diving if that is your thing. But like Bohol you need to take your own girl as options for pick ups there are very limited.I have just arrived in Cebu for what is planned to be an extended stay. I have Moalboal and learning scuba diving high on my list. I would think your BYOG advice is right, since it seems to be a quite small place. Anything else you can pass on about it?
I stayed at a dive resort, but there wasn't much of a beach there. It was a nice place. It was recommended by SpamHog, who doesn't post here much anymore.
The second day I took a ride to "white beach". This was a far nicer beach, but the only accomodation I noticed seemed to be a rather high-end place.
I also went to the waterfall. I thought it was a nice side trip. Some guys will offer to guide you. You don't need the guides to guide you. You'd have to be a fkwit to get lost on the trail, but you might want to let them carry your bag. Somewhere on this trip I picked up an eye infection and I suspect it was the water hole under the falls. But it might have been my face to far imbedded between some girls thighs. You just never know.
Also on this trip I got off the bus in Carcar. If you have any interest in history or architecture, it's worth a few hours. I left my gal at Jollibees and roamed around. I never saw another foreigner. X.
I have just arrived in Cebu for what is planned to be an extended stay. I have Moalboal and learning scuba diving high on my list. I would think your BYOG advice is right, since it seems to be a quite small place. Anything else you can pass on about it?
Attached, pic of Quo Vadis resort. Trike driver won't understand you though. Next door is a nice restaurant with ocean view, see pic. And the beach pic shows the dive site Pescador Island and beyond that Negros island.
Everything XMan has said is accurate, the small diving resort has some good swimming and snorkelling but white beach (a few kilometeres away) is the place to stay if you like a nice beach and it is true to its name. I stayed there with my gf and her two kids, it was slightly expensive and you are at the mercy of trikes who seem to charge whatever they want since there are no buses or taxis around the resorts themselves.
Interestingly I went there at the recommendation of SpamHog whom I met one day for a coffee, shame he dosen't post anymore, he was a very knowledgable guy when it comes to Cebu. As SpamHog once said, the drive from Cebu City to Moalboal is one of the most picturesque on the island and it is breathtaking in places.
It is a great place to relax and unwind, lots of small bars and restaraunts around, but to be honest I was bored after few days and went back to Cebu City.
There are several massage places in the dive resort itself and I did enquire if 'extras' were avaialble which they are, though I didn't partake because my gf was lurking.
Apparently there are some other resorts further South in Allegria, though I have never ventured that far afield. Yet!
Discussion on Camotes Islands is moving here, since I mistakenly posted in bars thread. Please see post by Questor there.
Thanks Q, I appreciate you taking the time to give a field report. Please allow me to add a few facts that've been churning somewhere in my alcohol-sodden brain.
There seem to be many options for the boat trip, but Danao has the most options. There are boats from Cebu as well as Ouana pier in Mandaue.
I've found both good and bad reviews of Santiago bay Resort. In your post you don't mention anything about beachfront or beach quality. Some of the reviews suggest that the hotel is not at the beach. Another place I searched out,"My little Island Hotel" has good reviews, but is NOT at the beach. The web page didn't impress me at all.
As for the new construction mentioned by Questor, there is apparently a new place with a similar name to the adjacent place (that Q mentioned). I'm too lazy to scroll down, but if you are interested in Camotes. Do so.
In my notes I see that Keshe Beach is recommended, but I don't remember if that is a real beach or a hotel name. Oops. My bad.
A local gal I met at DIA recommends Mangodlongparadise. Com.
Thanks again Q for sharing info. For a certain someone who can only advise fellow ISG members to search the Internet (duh) , ummmmm, (ending of sentence self-deleted because the moderators tell me that if I can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all). .
X.
X asked for more details regarding Santiago Bay Resort and other options. SB Resort sits in an elevated position roughly 50. 60 meters above the beach. Lovely views! There is stairway access to the beach, but the high tide will cover this portion of the sand to a depth of about 1 meter. The bay itself looks lovely and the sand is clean and fine. It's more of a wading beach than a swimming one, as it remains very shallow for at least a 100 meters before it drops off. I'd say Mangodlong Resort is inferior to SB as it lacks the gardens, swimming pool and nice restaurant. However, probably better for swimming and snorkling. I was originally interested in My Little Island Hotel on Poro Island, but it is absolutely in the middle of nowhere and is not close to the beach. I get the impression it is another one of those Philippine follies where very few guests try to enjoy themselves in a place where the dream has died and the maintenance is sorely lacking. I stand to be corrected on this by anyone with personal experience of this place. If it is possible to rent a small motorbike on Camotes for 2. 3 days, then this would be the way to go.
Interesting game plan. Hope it works. Maybe deduct as a charity.
Hello all! This is my second post ever. But I'm not new to what is going on in the Philippines. I have chated hundreds of girls from a few site such as tag and cherryblossoms, and pinalove. Pinalove is good for guys who want to set up ahead of time to have someone waiting them when they travel / tour island to island. It is free and not need to pay to send messages. I read what Sammon was saying about the girls. I agree with him. What I am going to say now you will think I am stupid but try my logic. Hahahah.
I have a "gf" that I have been chating for 4 months now...
Chicochulo
06-24-12, 07:10
should **** (under 18) girls in dia be named here or is that silly. she states 20 but when met said only 17.last year, i met a dia contact. she seemed younger than her 20 yo claim. after some patience and gentle interrogation, she confessed to being 17. i was polite and explained my disappointment like a gentleman should. after our snack and soda, i sent her home on a jeepney. fast forward to this month. my sweet little pinay is now 18. she sent me a message to invite me to meet her as soon as i can get back to cebu city. getting the green light from such a sweet pinay is so intoxicating. in conclusion, i suggest the soft approach towards these little darlings. don't get too worked up when you find out they are ****. just send them away with a smile. treat them like a princess. a year of maturity will only make them friendlier when next you meet.
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I arrived yesterday from Bangkok via Manila what a nightmare of a journey. I want to vote Cebu Pacific having the most uncomfortable seats ever. I am not overly tall but I found the leg room very restrictive and cramped and the seats too short so it was impossible to lean my head back properly. The thick metal bar inside the top of the magazine pouch on the back of each seat was at just the right height to cut off all circulation to my lower legs. If that was not bad enough I was sat next to a fat Pinoy who was fast asleep and snoring as soon as we left the ground. I don't know what a hippopotamus sounds like when it is being strangled, but I am quite sure it would have sounded similar to this guy. All my plans to grab a few hours sleep in the early hours seemed shattered so I asked the stewardess to move seats, only to find myself now sat further back in the plane in front of another Pinoy, lying prostrate along the entire row of seats behind me, snoring and grunting like a pig. Although there were other seats available, I did not want to look like a serial complainer so I suffered the rest of the journey in silence. Thank God Manila airport has improved since I last passed through there a few years ago, the transition from international arrivals to domestic departures was smooth and uncomplicated. Arrived in Cebu around 6am jumped in a taxi and headed for my hotel.
Couldn't sleep so headed off to Ayalla Mall for a late lunch after checking in. I have been to Ayalla more times than I care to remember and I was surprised to see so many freelancers this time, all making eye contact as we passed and smiling. I had a half decent lunch in the Golden Cowrie, tuna belly with vegetables and a cold beer before heading back to the terraces to do some hunting.
I caught the eye of two girls who seemed to be loitering outside Starbucks so I made eye contact with one, got the smile and without further ado moved over to chat. The girls were age 21 and 23 and the younger of the two was acutely shy, looking embarrassed every time I spoke to her. The older of the two admitted she was looking for a foreigner and the younger one, when probed admitted she had never been with a foreigner. I must admit I find shyness quite a turn on and this girl had the kind of body that always turns me on, very slim and petite and very short. My guess is that she could not have weighed more than 35 kilos, probably the smallest grown woman I have ever met, but perfectly proportioned. Her name was Liezel by the way.
Well guys you are not going to believe me when I say that this girl admitted to me that she had NEVER had a boyfriend. She was reluctant to talk to me saying she felt scared of going with a guy whilst her friend was giggling, prodding and teasing her. To say I was in disbelief was an understatement and her friend reassured me that she had never been with a guy. I asked her to come back to my hotel but she declined and I left them on the terrace feeling let down and frustrated.
I then started receiving numerous texts from the girl saying she liked me but was very scared and after about 20 similar texts back and forth they agreed to meet me again this time on the top floor by the cinema complex. Another similar conversation followed, the girl was obviously unsure and despite my reassurances I would be gentle with her she again declined to come with me. I was feeling tired and fed up with what seemed a waste of effort and told them I was going back to the hotel. I made my way downstairs and headed onto one if the terraces only to get yet another text from the girl asking me to wait and telling me she would come with me if her friend could come too. I cannot usually be bothered with this kind of effort and the girl was in all honesty quite plain facially, but it is not every day you get to deflower a virgin so I agreed.
Anyway we got a taxi to the hotel, got sniffed at on the way in by the explosives dog, although he missed the bomb waiting to go off in my trousers and got to the room. Leizel was initially reluctant to do anything and every time I touched her, she froze. Her friend told me she would leave the room as Leizel would not feel so shy once she had gone. Once we were alone I persuaded her to get into bed for a cuddle, I was only able to remove her clothes with the reassurance she had a bed sheet to prevent my prying eyes. I managed to get her naked and she began responding to my touch and kisses putting her tongue into my mouth as we embraced. Her pussy was quite lubricated and with her agreement I placed a big blob of ky gel in her pussy, I told her this would make sex less painful. I always keep a tube for such unforseen emergencies.
I tried to enter her but she winced with pain and tensed up each time I inserted the tip of my cock. I managed to get about half my cock inside and I had my hand underneath one of her butt cheeks, the whole of her ass was so tiny it almost fitted in the palm of my hand. It was still too painful as I could see her wincing so I withdrew, finished myself off by hand and spurted my hot sperm across her tiny body. We chatted on the bed, I told her she needed to try and relax a bit more and that I would wait for her until she felt ready. We both showered, I gave her 1500 and we met her friend downstairs in the hotel lobby where they left in a taxi.
I then get about 20 text messages over the rest of the afternoon and evening from Leizel, vowing her undying love for me. I got bored after the second text message and did not respond anymore after that, despite her messages getting more insistent about her passionate love for me.
Went for a late dinner and headed to Mango Square at about 11pm. Went into the nightclub we all know as Julianas which has changed its name again since I was last there or maybe I was too drunk to notice last time. l paid my 100 pesos and went in to have my internal organs pounded with the thumping base. Lots of cute girls, a couple approached me at the bar but I felt indifferent at that point and was content to just chat.
Only stayed for the one beer which was included in the cover charge and went outside to explore. Loads of people around it was now well past midnight and after a further beer outside I decided it was time to head home, or at least that was the plan until I met Anne outside, who was part of a large group of girls sat at a table close to edge of Mango Square.
Anne was like Liezel a little shy and I ended up having a conversation with her through one of her friends. Anne was 18, very pretty in an innocent kind of way, with a slim body. She was wearing tight figure hugging jeans that showed off her long legs perfectly and a small loosely fitting top that showed she had tiny breasts and a light touch of make up on her face. She was very cute, not in a sexy way, but natural looking and pretty. Well all illusions of innocence were shattered immediately when her friend announced that it would cost me 1500 for short time so off we headed. We went to a short time hotel the name if which I cannot remember, not as far away as the Greenland and on the way to Ayalla, a new place I never even knew existed. I learn something new every time I come back here.
The cab enters the hotel complex in much the same way as the Greenland and once I paid the taxi Anne was off obviously treading a well worn route up to the second floor knowing exactly where she was going. We both undressed together, her body was a delight to behold, tiny pert breasts and nipples, a small perfectly flat stomach, and gorgeous legs. Her pussy was neatly trimmed into a small strip just above her pussy and once we were on the bed, me lying on my back, she climbed on top of me and started sucking my nipples intensely. I could feel the nerves tingling in my body as I got rock hard and sensing my heightened arousal she moved down to my cock teasing it with her tongue. I was ready to burst, turned her over on her back and entered her tight, (extremely tight) but moist pussy in the missionary position. She responded by thrusting her hips back and forward in rhythm with my thrusts and in an embarrassingly short time I orgasmed. Total damage 1500 for her (no extra for taxi) and 260 for the room.
I let her get a taxi alone back to Mango Square, I headed off to my hotel quite tired after such a busy day and little sleep. If every day is like this I will need an extra vacation just to recover!
This was uploaded from my iPad so I apologise for any text formatting or word errors, IPAD is not ISG friendly
We went to a short time hotel the name if which I cannot remember, not as far away as the Greenland and on the way to Ayalla, a new place I never even knew existed. I learn something new every time I come back here.
The cab enters the hotel complex in much the same way as the Greenland and once I paid the taxi Anne was off obviously treading a well worn route up to the second floor knowing exactly where she was going. .Nice details Mort, except for lack of detail about the ST hotel you used.
You mention Greenland. Do you mean "Queensland" or is there one called "Greenland"?
Where exactly is this new place you were taken to. Surely you remember some of the details?
Anybody got any up to date intel on ST hotels around or near Mango (Gen Maxilom Ave)? It seems the scene has changed over the past couple of years. I only knew Queensland (a dump) and SOGO.
Nice details Mort, except for lack of detail about the ST hotel you used.
You mention Greenland. Do you mean "Queensland" or is there one called "Greenland"?
Where exactly is this new place you were taken to. Surely you remember some of the details?
Anybody got any up to date intel on ST hotels around or near Mango (Gen Maxilom Ave)? It seems the scene has changed over the past couple of years. I only knew Queensland (a dump) and SOGO.Can't remember the name RK I had been without sleep for nearly 48 hours but I will find out before I leave. I remember the taxi heading off from Mango Square heading in the opposite direction to the Queensland (not Greenland. Sorry). The taxi went along Escario Street towards the direction of the Elizabeth Hotel that is about all I can remember. The hotel had a cafeteria on the 1st floor and it all seemed very new. The road it is on is quiet, not much development there and I recognised the area as I have been down it befor in taxis. It was very clean LCD TV in the room showing porn, and not bad for 260. I have used both the Sogo and Queensland and this is more convenient and the area not as seedy. The others thing I remember was the taxi fare was exactly 65 pesos. Hope this can help one of our other members to identify the place for you RK
Member #4351
06-25-12, 15:43
Could it have been Tune Hotel? Is it possible to just walk in the place or does a reservation have to be made previously online?
Good to see your report. Have a good time. One of these days I will get to meet you. Hope to hear about your girl and her kids. And what ever fresh meat she brings to the house. Have a safe trip. RED
Wicked Roger
06-25-12, 20:05
Could it have been Tune Hotel? Is it possible to just walk in the place or does a reservation have to be made previously online?Not Tune or Island Resorts nearby as both on a busy road and won't be showing 24 hr porn. I thnk there is a need for research on this matter (where are the smileys when you need them)
Stroker Ace88
06-26-12, 00:36
Nice details Mort, except for lack of detail about the ST hotel you used.
You mention Greenland. Do you mean "Queensland" or is there one called "Greenland"?
Where exactly is this new place you were taken to. Surely you remember some of the details?
Anybody got any up to date intel on ST hotels around or near Mango (Gen Maxilom Ave)? It seems the scene has changed over the past couple of years. I only knew Queensland (a dump) and SOGO.There are four Queensland hotels in and around Cebu City. The 'dump' Queensland that you visited is very likely one of the Queensland hotels located on the corner of lower Mango and Soriano Avenue.
The newest Queensland is on V. Rama. It's clean and busy in the evening.
Stroker Ace88
06-26-12, 00:56
Can't remember the name RK I had been without sleep for nearly 48 hours but I will find out before I leave. I remember the taxi heading off from Mango Square heading in the opposite direction to the Queensland (not Greenland. Sorry). The taxi went along Escario Street towards the direction of the Elizabeth Hotel that is about all I can remember. The hotel had a cafeteria on the 1st floor and it all seemed very new. The road it is on is quiet, not much development there and I recognised the area as I have been down it befor in taxis. It was very clean LCD TV in the room showing porn, and not bad for 260. I have used both the Sogo and Queensland and this is more convenient and the area not as seedy. The others thing I remember was the taxi fare was exactly 65 pesos. Hope this can help one of our other members to identify the place for you RKThe hotel you describe sounds alot like Diamond Suites. Cafeteria / resto as you walk in, flat scren TV's and the hotel is fairly new (opened a few yrs ago). Last time I heard they do not accept short time stays but that could have changed. Porn playing on the TV? Hmm, maybe you can remember a few more details about the location that would help to narrow the search.
After my disaster encounter at SM Mall last night (see the chat rooms and pen pals thread) , I went for some food and decided to walk back from SM to the Waterfront. It was about 10pm and on the way I decided to head down Archbishop Reyes Avenue, to one of the several streets that run off the main highway on the East side of the road called Cavantan Street. This area although situated right in the heart of Cebu City, rarely has foreigners frequent the place, it is mainly comprised of slum dwellings and low quality shops and even lower quality eateries. I called by to see if the relatives of my girl friend were still there, but it seems they had moved somewhere else. I got chatting to a couple of their old neighbours who introduced me to their extended family, two of whom were young mothers aged 14 and 15, clutching a tiny baby each and wearing shabby vests, baggy shorts and worn sandals that had lone seen better days. They are living a hand to mouth existence with absolutely zero opportunity in life to ever better themselves and it never ceases to sadden me how this constant cycle of injustice, repeats itself over and over again. I gave the two young moms a couple of hundred pesos each, an insignificant amount of money to me but it will transform their lives at least for a day or two.
I headed back towards the Waterfront Hotel and decided to call in at the Sunflower, it was past 11pm and I thought I would call in for a drink. I wa shocked to find the place a derelict building site, at least what I could make out of it in the darkness. Locals tell me it is undergoing refurbishment, but it looked more like demolition to me.
Headed back to my hotel and as I was walking along the main thoroughfare inside the hotel with the restaraunts on either side, I saw a couple of girls sat on one of the benches. We made eye contact and both girls smiled. I sat down next to them and we got chatting. Seems both girls were on the look out for a foreigner and both offered to come to my room. I declined the offer but agreed to take the prettier and younger one with me and I asked her how much she wanted."3000" came her reply, so I smiled sweetly and told her she was way too expensive and went to bed to sleep alone. I was too tired to negotiate and to be honest it was sleep on my mind at that point and not sex.
I am now at Country Mall sitting in an internet cafe and typing this report and waiting for my next date to finish work. She is a cute sales promo girl aged 21 working in the department store here and is dying to meet me after work. Life is hard here but one has to make do!
There are four Queensland hotels in and around Cebu City. The 'dump' Queensland that you visited is very likely one of the Queensland hotels located on the corner of lower Mango and Soriano Avenue.
The newest Queensland is on V. Rama. It's clean and busy in the evening.Thanks Stroker. Yes that's the "dump" Queensland; the one on lower Mango past the Gorordo Street junction (Joilbee on one corner).
I am glad Queensland have something new on V Rama.
It seems I really stirred up the detectives / bloodhounds by asking Mort for more details about the ST place to which he was dragged (though not kicking and screaming I guess) by a wanton woman.
Pity WR isn't in Cebu right now or he would get his flunkies onto the problem and have the address of this mysterious ST place sorted out in no time.
Keep us posted here. Some of us need to know.
I headed back towards the Waterfront Hotel and decided to call in at the Sunflower, it was past 11pm and I thought I would call in for a drink. I wa shocked to find the place a derelict building site, at least what I could make out of it in the darkness. Locals tell me it is undergoing refurbishment, but it looked more like demolition to me.Mort. You must have missed the discussion on this thread about 8 weeks ago (I cannot find the series of posts) about Sunflower being demolished to make way for something quite different to its original use.
I had some good times in the Sunflower, but not surprised that it was finally put out of its misery
Wicked Roger
06-26-12, 12:24
Pity WR isn't in Cebu right now or he would get his flunkies onto the problem and have the address of this mysterious ST place sorted out in no time.
Keep us posted here. Some of us need to know.Soon RK. It had already crossed my mind as a good worthwhile and educational research project LOL One I will enjoy to the full. But is anyone else finds it sooner please let us know (or if Mortman can finally get his brain cells into order LOL)
Can't remember the name RK I had been without sleep for nearly 48 hours but I will find out before I leave. I remember the taxi heading off from Mango Square heading in the opposite direction to the Queensland (not Greenland. Sorry). The taxi went along Escario Street towards the direction of the Elizabeth Hotel that is about all I can remember. The hotel had a cafeteria on the 1st floor and it all seemed very new. The road it is on is quiet, not much development there and I recognised the area as I have been down it befor in taxis. It was very clean LCD TV in the room showing porn, and not bad for 260. I have used both the Sogo and Queensland and this is more convenient and the area not as seedy. The others thing I remember was the taxi fare was exactly 65 pesos. Hope this can help one of our other members to identify the place for you RKSounds like
http://westgorordohotel.multiply.com/
Sounds like.
http://westgorordohotel.multiply.com/I doubt it Frenzy.
He said he paid 260 php for a ST romp.
I couldn't imagine this place, advertised as a businessman's hotel close to the Business Park, would be hosting hookers and clients as well with porn on the TV.
He also said it was on a quiet street. Gorordo Street is never quiet, even at 4 am.
The direction and cafe on the upper floor, there is a new building just finished near there, so they could have changed rates, I posted the link to see if he helped him to remember, Strange that no one else knows this new Place as Cebu does not change that fast.
For me Queensland vrama and valley front are the best for mango bars / pickups, I use to like the crown in Guadalupe, but valley front wins now they have renovated.
As for the street it is "quiet" at 4 am and there is a bikini bar close to there.
The direction and cafe on the upper floor, there is a new building just finished near there, so they could have changed rates, I posted the link to see if he helped him to remember, Strange that no one else knows this new Place as Cebu does not change that fast.
For me Queensland vrama and valley front are the best for mango bars / pickups, I use to like the crown in Guadalupe, but valley front wins now they have renovated.
As for the street it is "quiet" at 4 am and there is a bikini bar close to there.Guys.
I will make it my mission to locate this place before I leave Cebu. Frenzy I checked out your link and pretty sure it wasn't that place though I could be wrong. As I said I was almost dropping with exhaustion at that point as I was almost two days without sleep and what little blood I had in my brain was being diverted elsewhere at the time (smiley)
Gents.
I didn't realise my lack of attention and oblivious state of mind to my whereabouts the other night, would generate such controversy!
I found the short time hotel and I actually went there on my way back to my hotel from Mango Square tonight. I asked a couple of the working girls in Mango for the name of the place and called in to get a business card. Firstly let me apologise in advance since my original recollection of the route was a bit muddled, I mentioned driving along Escario Street but now I realise that was after leaving the hotel and not before.
Anyway the name of the place is the ValleyFront, it seems to be as I said much nearer to Mango Square than the Queensland and the short time rate was 260. It is not only cheaper than the Queensland but it is in better condition and more convenient.
The full address is Happy Valley Road, corner of V. Rama Ave.
www.valleyfronthotel.com
Tel (+63-32) 255-9987
Anyway the name of the place is the ValleyFront, it seems to be as I said much nearer to Mango Square than the Queensland and the short time rate was 260. It is not only cheaper than the Queensland but it is in better condition and more convenient.
The full address is Happy Valley Road, corner of V. Rama Ave.
www.valleyfronthotel.comMystery solved. WR can relax now. I will have to check it out soon. Thanks Mort for getting it sorted. Frenzy was close and actually mentioned it without realising it was the place in question
Mystery solved. WR can relax now. I will have to check it out soon. Thanks Mort for getting it sorted. Frenzy was close and actually mentioned it without realising it was the place in questionIt is up the road from queensland and he said they went the other way, i did mention it the only one i know that has been renovated . Still it the best one this side of cebu
Mortman a good hotel find is just as good as finding a great girl, at least with the hotel you can share it with any one.
Ended up back at the Queensland yesterday with a DIA contact and her friend. The older one aged 22 was content to watch TV whilst I enjoyed myself with the younger one aged 19. The older of the two was a DIA chat buddy and she introduced me to the younger girl when they met me at Ayalla yesterday. After the deed was done I gave the girl 1000 as previosly agreed and settled the bill which seems to have increased in price recently to 350 (or did I count my change properly?). They wanted to ride the taxi out to the street and once I was alone and heading back to the hotel the older girl started texting asking for commission. Told her she should have mentioned that when we met.
Ayalla Mall today was very quiet, I saw the most amazing sight today a group of foreigners all apparently (from the look of them) from the same family. The oldest guy was huge, with an enormous bald head, a face like a bulldog chewing a wasp and set with a permanent aggresive looking scowl. His bald head was covered in a large tatoo and he was accompanied by what I guess was his adult son, shuffling along on crutches, equally big in size to his father and sporting a cropped mohican hair style hair cut. They were acompanied by an entourage of other foreigner and pinay misfits who looked equally attractive as their male counterparts. I wouldn't like to meet any of them on a dark night thats for sure and it was funny just sitting back and watching the reaction from the locals as they all trundled along the terrace this afternoon.
I was nearly prey to three LBs this afternoon as I walked inside from the terrace outside Bo's, I had a lucky escape. Walking three abreast they eyeballed me straight away, like three hungry lionesses on an African plain with an injured gazelle in their sights. I deliberately did not make eye contact this time and as the gap closed I saw them deliberately move towards me in an effort to bump into me and grab my attention. I deftly moved to the right at the last minute before the impending impact and continued on my way as if nothing had happened. I found it all quite amusing and I did not turn round to see their reaction, sometimes their persistence can be downright annoying.
PolyOrchid
06-27-12, 12:58
The oldest guy was huge, with an enormous bald head, a face like a bulldog chewing a waspThat line, Mort. I'm warning you right now, I'm stealing it and claiming it for my own.
And, oh how I miss Ayala and its cast of constantly amazing characters.
That line, Mort. I'm warning you right now, I'm stealing it and claiming it for my own.
And, oh how I miss Ayala and its cast of constantly amazing characters.I cannot claim to be the original author of that expression since it is commonly used saying in the UK especially in the North of England
Keep it coming, Are you going to CDO this trip? I know you go north also. Just remember there are many here in the world who have to work. But can still live thru the storys of others.
I am still curious about your older girlfreind with the kids who comes to town to be with you sometimes. I remeber in thread you wondering if it was you or the support. Trust me many of us wonder the same thing. And it is hard to deny when many say it is always about the money. They all seem to prove that at some time.
Glad you and Frenzy worked it out. I met him last time there. Went to his house, Was offered dinner and met his five year trusted girl freind and many others. He is Assuie, Me Yank and You Briit. As you mention often. But we share culture and mongering. Besides God what else is there. RIGHT.
Have fun, I do like the way you tell your trip report. I do the some type of things you do. But do not know how to express the story and the feelings, confussion, life the way you do. Always like when you detour down an alley to the squatters area and how you relate the experince. The only time in those areas I feel worried is when the Pinoys are drunk. I do not drink. In A / A and have to deal with a drunk who wants me to drink coconut wine with him. Trust me I have drank Ketchup wine so that is not it. But Drunks do stupid things. And I know in RP the Kano will be at fault. So I move on. Most Koreans in the disco seem to mellow when drinking. But Pinoys become aggresive. Or lots do.
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Stroker Ace88
06-28-12, 19:05
[SNIP] Most Koreans in the disco seem to mellow when drinking. But Pinoys become aggresive. Or lots do.From my observations and discussions with a few disco owners and the occasional bouncer I have found the opposite is true. Koreans drink and often pick fights with locals and bouncers. They look down on the entire nation of the Philippines. When they are sober they hide there disgust but get them drunk and most become serious A-holes.
Locals are far more likely to be mellow drunks. They smile and joke and sing off-key kareoke versions of britney spears or charice. For the most part they are not too agressive as long as you do not insult someone and you pay for a few drinks. Of course YMMV as always.
I've seen some pretty aggressive Filipino drunks and some mellow Koreans. And I've certainly seen some white Western guys who seem to look down on the whole country. I don't think it's healthy to generalize / stereotype this way. THe a-holes will be a-holes, you can see it by their behavior, not by their ethnic origin.
From my observations and discussions with a few disco owners and the occasional bouncer I have found the opposite is true. Koreans drink and often pick fights with locals and bouncers. They look down on the entire nation of the Philippines. When they are sober they hide there disgust but get them drunk and most become serious A-holes.
Locals are far more likely to be mellow drunks. They smile and joke and sing off-key kareoke versions of britney spears or charice. For the most part they are not too agressive as long as you do not insult someone and you pay for a few drinks. Of course YMMV as always.
It really depends where you hang out and the reputation of the place, Juliana, j ave use to have gang fights there between locals, then it was Koreans causing trouble, then whites now I never go there. Pump 1 has the rude arrogant drunk Korean. Any street has bad local drunks, the videooke you find the mellow local drunk.
On the whole the low class Korean students in Cebu treat the locals pretty bad.
Starchild2012
06-29-12, 09:04
Thank god never heard about Indians causing trouble in PH, with the tag of 5-6 bombai loan sharks and the irresistible curry smell that filipina and rest of the world hates, that would be the last tag we would need. Curry smelling drunk loan sharks causing trouble in PH. May be because of our smell no one wants to fight us LOL.
I was chatting with one of my older dates who moved to Qatar last week and was shocked by the number of Indians and bad odour, she says, even the girls stink and was finding it very hard to adjust. I had already warned her about that and now she hates all Indians and I doubt I will get laid when she returns next year.
It does not matter, you know you stink and use deo and perfume. As soon as you say Indian, they think of smell. Now, I have devised a pre-emtive strike to nullify it. When they ask me. Where I'm from. I Say. I'm Indian and I do not stink.
Thanks for the appreciation, I usually go over to CDO but I am giving it a miss this time and returning to Thailand next week. I haven't been to Thailand for a few years but spent a couple days in BKK before I arrived here. There seems to be an ever increasing gulf between the prices in Thailand and here, of course with the Philippines winning hands down in terms of value for money.
My own currency has taken a pounding against the baht, it was not so long ago I was getting 90 baht to the pound and now I am only getting around 45. 50.
As for my regular gf it is a long story but I am not seeing her this time around. I have been financially supporting her and her kids for the last four years but that is all over now after a stunt she pulled last weekend. She made up the most incredible and elaborate lie and without going into details here, she nearly ruined my entire trip. I am the first to admit I am not perfect, but I have always been honest with her and this recent incident has soured our relationship somewhat.
After my disaster at Chuva Chuva the other night I made my way over to Mango Square. I paid my 100 baht had my hand stamped and went to the bar where I ordered my drink. Lots of girls around and got propositioned a couple of times. In fact one girl was really persistent, very very short and not really my type, she constantly kept coming over to the bar and pressing her ass into my crotch, gyrating to the music. She was so persistent that in the end I took hold of her shoulders and pushed her gently away.
I saw two girls the shorter one was cute but she was with a taller girl who looked like she was Japanese. Not the normal shape or size of most Filipinas, she was quite tall and actually what I would call big boned, but not in any way fat. Her face was incredibly beautiful and she seemed completely aloof to everyone around her. She actually turned away from a couple of guys who were eyeballing her from the bar and she seemed content to stand and watch her friend who was bobbing up and down wildly to the music next to her.
Anyway nothing like a good challenge I thought as I moved in and offered to buy her and her friend a drink. Turns out she was Filipino and I spent around 45 minutes chatting with her and her friend and listening to the music. It was quite late by now at least for me and after the disappointment in Chuva Chuva, I needed some relief. So I asked the Japanese looking girl outright would she come back with me.
She shouted something to her friend and then told me she would come with me later but I was not in a mood to wait, though I could not convince her to come. I then spoke to her friend and told her that her friend won't come back with me and as I am tired I am leaving. The friend told me to wait and leaned over to her friend whispering to each other. The friend of the girl I wanted then came over to me and said "you do realise that most of the girls in here need financial help" and I replied "of course I am happy with that" Anyway we spent a couple more minutes chatting and I decided on the spur of the moment to invite both girls back. Although it was understood I was paying, we had not discussed prices at all.
Got back to the room and both girls decided to help themselves to the mini bar."ouch" I was thinking "this is going to be expensive" As it happens they only had one beer each which wasn't too bad.
I wanted the Japanese looking girl first so told her to take a shower whilst I played with her friend. We didn't get up to too much just kissing and touching. This girl then went for a shower whilst the Japanese looking girl called Audrey returned naked but wrapped in a towel. She began giving me the most remarkable BBBJ to the point where I had to pull her off as I was in danger of climaxing too quickly. She licked and sucked my balls, kissed and licked beneath my balls and moved up the shaft of my cock to take me in her mouth, using her tongue like a true expert. The other girl had come back from her shower and made herself busy sucking my nipples and French kissing me. I then flipped Audrey on to her back removing her towel to reveal a body that was just built for fucking, no fat, long legs and a neatly trimmed pussy with smallish tits and nipples. I began fucking her, and listening to her gasp and groan with her friend watching intently, the whole experience had me exploding in no time.
I was still hard and Bea asked me was I using Viagra, to which I truthfully replied "no". I had however slipped a cialis pill down secretively as we initially arrived in the room.
It was Bea's turn now and she proceeded to suck me off even though I had not cleaned up with my session with her friend. Audrey did not participate this time and sat on the floor watching TV. I began fucking Bea but in all honesty could not manage another pop though I was enjoying myself. In the end I called it a day and rolled off her still hard. Bea wanted to stay all night but Audrey was already getting dressed. I preferred a good nights sleep so asked both girls to leave, in any case it was Audrey that I really liked and she seemed keen not to hang around. It was about 3.30am and my guess is that both girls went back to Mango Square to find some more business, who knows and who really cares. Since prices had not been previously discussed I figured 1500 each was more than enough and both girls seemed happy with this amount. I must admit afterwards I wondered if I should have just paid 1000 each, but since I had a great time I figured it was worth it.
I hope to see these two girls again, they performed really well and all in all a great experience I didn't take their numbers which I now regret.
I cannot claim to be the original author of that expression since it is commonly used saying in the UK especially in the North of EnglandI was told to find the wise words of Mortman, as I am weighing up the pros and cons of visiting Cebu or South America.
I would be very grateful if you could advise me on a few things as you seem to have a lot of knowledge on Cebu, I'm not sure where else you may have visited, but if you have visited South America, Colombia in particular, that would be a bonus.
Below is a link to the page where I posted, I believe there are 3 posts, if you find any time, take a read and reply on here and let me know if you can.
Thank you.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?578-General-Info
Scroll down to #3550 for the first post cheers!
There are quite a few members who post here that probably can give you a better insight than me into Cebu, as some of them live here. I am on vacation in Cebu at the moment and haven't got time to start reading back through your posts to give you the answers you need, it is hard enough finding time to add my own posts.
Or you could retry posting your questions, but please do try and do some research first there is a ton of information already posted but it does take a lot of time and effort to do so.
I personally have never been to South America, the furthest I ever got there was Mexico, so sorry I cannot be of any help to you there.
I don't mean to sound unhelpful I just want to enjoy my time here without wasting time going back to find your posts, read through them and compose answers.
Good Luck.
M
Starchild2012
06-30-12, 05:37
I hope to see these two girls again, they performed really well and all in all a great experience I didn't take their numbers which I now regret.Thanks for the report. Yes, get their number or Facebook contact etc etc asap, it seems the way you described, she was perfect. Besides, she was been approached many times by other guys as well. In my experience, non-filipina looking but filipina nonetheless with other Asian / European feature girls don't stay in the market for long, they move on, never to be caught again. Its just once in a while we encounter these species. It seems local Filipino dudes too are after them.
Your post brought back memories of my encounter with a Japanese looking Filipina girl, who was incredibly beautiful, her father was japanese though, her mother worked in japan then came back to PH (presumably, she would have been a WG there) and she had been to Japan few times, and could speak good japanese, In my naivety, as it was my first trip to PH, I thought these kinda girls are a norm rather than exception in PH.
I didn't bother asking her number etc and I still regret to this day, she was a keeper, I did everything possible to get her back after realizing, these kinda girls are rare in PH. But alas, she was gone for ever.
Wonderful report, but how do you chat with anyone in that bar?
Even my inners were vibrating
I was told to find the wise words of Mortman, as I am weighing up the pros and cons of visiting Cebu or South America.
I would be very grateful if you could advise me on a few things as you seem to have a lot of knowledge on Cebu, I'm not sure where else you may have visited, but if you have visited South America, Colombia in particular, that would be a bonus.
Below is a link to the page where I posted, I believe there are 3 posts, if you find any time, take a read and reply on here and let me know if you can.
Thank you.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?578-General-Info
Scroll down to #3550 for the first post cheers!I had a quick look and I have never been to south America, the one guy I know who has been to both said he prefers Thailand, no one can decide for you where you are going to be happy. You also have not posted really what you want, at 24 I would visit here as I wish I came here at 24 I would have moved earlier.
If you like the drugs then skip Asia, my friend likes his drugs but still preferred Asia.
Member #4351
06-30-12, 14:28
I LIVE in South America and spend a couple of months each year in Asia, mostly in Cebu.
I had a quick look and I have never been to south America, the one guy I know who has been to both said he prefers Thailand, no one can decide for you where you are going to be happy. You also have not posted really what you want, at 24 I would visit here as I wish I came here at 24 I would have moved earlier.
If you like the drugs then skip Asia, my friend likes his drugs but still preferred Asia.I don't know if you read the right posts, they were very lengthy and detailed. To keep it short and sweet, I prefer Latinas.
However.
I want to visit somewhere I get the most for my money, cheapest hotels & women, that's of decent quality or better, with a good white sandy beach clear seas. Somewhere you can live like a king, get good p*ssy, and have a nice beach to kick back on.
It's out of Colombia & Costa Rica or Cebu.
Bear in mind I'm British so the currency is ore favourable than the American dollar so to speak. For three weeks I'll have around 4,000$
I LIVE in South America and spend a couple of months each year in Asia, mostly in Cebu.Oh wait I know you too, but we never talk about mongering out side cebu so you never told me what you prefer?
Member #4351
06-30-12, 23:54
Sorry Frenzy, my comment was directed at SwagMeOut I should have mentioned that. I'm sure my point is clear.
Sorry Frenzy, my comment was directed at SwagMeOut I should have mentioned that. I'm sure my point is clear.Probably the best person to talk to then. Where in South America do you live? What would you say is the price difference between Cebu and SA? If I'm looking for a beautiful beach, cheap food and hotels (to an extent, I want a nice 4 star to a 5 star, but out of the cheaper ones) and best placed to do other things along side mongering? I'm once again considering Thailand, but I preferred Philippines because they speak english.
Probably the best person to talk to then. Where in South America do you live? What would you say is the price difference between Cebu and SA? If I'm looking for a beautiful beach, cheap food and hotels (to an extent, I want a nice 4 star to a 5 star, but out of the cheaper ones) and best placed to do other things along side mongering? I'm once again considering Thailand, but I preferred Philippines because they speak english.Pay the fee and use pm, we do not need to know publicly what works for you, most of us are going to stick to asia,
Member #4351
07-02-12, 15:55
Pay the fee and use pm,Yes, please collaborate with Jackson and pay him his $19. 95. It is a good investment. http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/payments.php?
Pay the fee and use pm, we do not need to know publicly what works for you, most of us are going to stick to asia,This is a forum where people share information, publicly or not, on there experiences and advice for fellow users. In case you haven't noticed. Everyone is doing it all over ISG. Please do NOT single me out for something the majority of people do, and signed up for. Publicly asking and replying to questions helps me as well as others. If someone chooses not to answer me, that is there choice, not yours. No need to be rude.
Stroker Ace88
07-03-12, 06:53
Probably the best person to talk to then. Where in South America do you live? What would you say is the price difference between Cebu and SA? If I'm looking for a beautiful beach, cheap food and hotels (to an extent, I want a nice 4 star to a 5 star, but out of the cheaper ones) and best placed to do other things along side mongering? I'm once again considering Thailand, but I preferred Philippines because they speak english.SMO,
Dear Sir can you please RTFF. It would save alot of time if you did your own research and narrowed down your choices and asked specific questions. Your posts sound highly unrealistic and to me (I could be wrong) this seems like your first International excursion and probably your first sortie into the monger realm.
Just to clarify things. Cebu does not have white sand close to the city. You will have to travel 1. 5hrs+ outside of Cebu City to places like Moalboal, Bantayan Island ect or take a fast craft ferry to Bohol to find a nice beach. Most of those places are usually BYOG.
For an Internationally rated 4 or 5 star resort around Cebu expect to pay 100-400USD+ per night for a resort located on the water with some sand. Only a handful of real 4 and 5 star resorts around Cebu. If you want to stay at a resort on the cheap expect to pay 60-100USD per night for something that even some locals will refuse to stay at.
Enjoy Cebu, but looking at your long list of absolutely picture perfect paradise prerequisites, Cebu is not for you.
You have a vision in your head of all the wonderful things waiting for you. The sexy women who will do anything you want at the drop of a hat and only demand a kiss as payment. There are the pure unspoiled white sand beaches. There are the amazing resorts that cater to your every whim and request. They have a crystal clear pool, amazing turquioise water all around the resort with no other guests in sight. A room with a huge king sized bed flat screen and a glass shower in the cr that fits four comfortably. The rate is 20USD per night! The front desk staff always tell you how sorry they are for overcharging and provide you with endless free drinks to help ease your pain. As you sit under the shade of a large tree on the beach you have one filipina feed you fruit and two more give you a nice slow body massage. Hmm, this can be had in the Philippines? YES it's out there. Just be prepared to pay ALOT for it.
The reality of your trip is something closer to this. You arrive at the airport and step off the plane. The AC in the terminal is not working and you are sweating buckets. You wait for a taxi and the driver 'forgets' to turn on his meter and suddenly the taxi ride that should of been 150p becomes 500p. You arrive at the hotel and your room smells like mould and there are no fresh towels. The view from the hotel is a concrete wall of the next building. The DIA girl who seemed so into you on the internet isn't returning your calls and when you finally talk to her she tells you her auntie needs her to babysit and she is unavailable. The same kind of result from DIA girls number two, three and four. When you step out on the streets of Cebu you are shocked at all the garbage, street kids, pollution and fast food outlets. You finally get a DIA contact to come stay with you and she bangs you silly. Just what you needed! You decide to switch hotels to a resort on a beach the next day. You book and pay for a 5 day stay in advance but your girl reveals the first night she is now on her period and she wants her family members to come swim for the day and stay for the buffet dinner. She explains it's just three family members and you give the ok to your girl, but fourteen people show up.
While all those things might not happen to you, they are all real possibilities. Adjust your expectations. Strongly suggest you RTFF and find a few posts by members who recently made there first trips to the places you want to visit. See if there expectations became reality or if there trip turned into something very different.
SMO,
Dear Sir can you please RTFF. It would save alot of time if you did your own research and narrowed down your choices and asked specific questions. Your posts sound highly unrealistic and to me (I could be wrong) this seems like your first International excursion and probably your first sortie into the monger realm.
Just to clarify things. Cebu does not have white sand close to the city. You will have to travel 1. 5hrs+ outside of Cebu City to places like Moalboal, Bantayan Island ect or take a fast craft ferry to Bohol to find a nice beach. Most of those places are usually BYOG.
For an Internationally rated 4 or 5 star resort around Cebu expect to pay 100-400USD+ per night for a resort located on the water with some sand. Only a handful of real 4 and 5 star resorts around Cebu. If you want to stay at a resort on the cheap expect to pay 60-100USD per night for something that even some locals will refuse to stay at.
Enjoy Cebu, but looking at your long list of absolutely picture perfect paradise prerequisites, Cebu is not for you.
You have a vision in your head of all the wonderful things waiting for you. The sexy women who will do anything you want at the drop of a hat and only demand a kiss as payment. There are the pure unspoiled white sand beaches. There are the amazing resorts that cater to your every whim and request. They have a crystal clear pool, amazing turquioise water all around the resort with no other guests in sight. A room with a huge king sized bed flat screen and a glass shower in the cr that fits four comfortably. The rate is 20USD per night! The front desk staff always tell you how sorry they are for overcharging and provide you with endless free drinks to help ease your pain. As you sit under the shade of a large tree on the beach you have one filipina feed you fruit and two more give you a nice slow body massage. Hmm, this can be had in the Philippines? YES it's out there. Just be prepared to pay ALOT for it.
The reality of your trip is something closer to this. You arrive at the airport and step off the plane. The AC in the terminal is not working and you are sweating buckets. You wait for a taxi and the driver 'forgets' to turn on his meter and suddenly the taxi ride that should of been 150p becomes 500p. You arrive at the hotel and your room smells like mould and there are no fresh towels. The view from the hotel is a concrete wall of the next building. The DIA girl who seemed so into you on the internet isn't returning your calls and when you finally talk to her she tells you her auntie needs her to babysit and she is unavailable. The same kind of result from DIA girls number two, three and four. When you step out on the streets of Cebu you are shocked at all the garbage, street kids, pollution and fast food outlets. You finally get a DIA contact to come stay with you and she bangs you silly. Just what you needed! You decide to switch hotels to a resort on a beach the next day. You book and pay for a 5 day stay in advance but your girl reveals the first night she is now on her period and she wants her family members to come swim for the day and stay for the buffet dinner. She explains it's just three family members and you give the ok to your girl, but fourteen people show up.
While all those things might not happen to you, they are all real possibilities. Adjust your expectations. Strongly suggest you RTFF and find a few posts by members who recently made there first trips to the places you want to visit. See if there expectations became reality or if there trip turned into something very different.Good advice.
If you want the beach go to BORACAY. Despite what people say there is action to be had there but you will need to go look for it at Station 1. What you want is to stay at Station 2 but go out at bars / discos around Station 1 where lots of locals and local tourists hang around.
SMO,
Dear Sir can you please RTFF. It would save alot of time if you did your own research and narrowed down your choices and asked specific questions. Your posts sound highly unrealistic and to me (I could be wrong) this seems like your first International excursion and probably your first sortie into the monger realm.
Just to clarify things. <<<SNIP LMAO.
I hope SMO can read between the lashings of irony served up in your post Stroker. I agree with much of your post.
The vision (fantasy) of 20 USD in the 5th parag is more likely to be 200 USD ++ for that sort of idyll. I hope he understands that.
This is a forum where people share information, publicly or not, on there experiences and advice for fellow users. In case you haven't noticed. Everyone is doing it all over ISG. Please do NOT single me out for something the majority of people do, and signed up for. Publicly asking and replying to questions helps me as well as others. If someone chooses not to answer me, that is there choice, not yours. No need to be rude.I am not an expert on either Colombia or Cebu but those are my main hunting grounds these days. PI has Manila, AC and Cebu, those are the places I am familiar (excluding Manila). AC and Cebu are not beach towns but have beach towns nearby. AC has Puerta Galera and Cebu has Bantayan, Bohol and Moatball. I have been to both Bantayan (definitely BYOG) and Puerto Galera, (has it's own bar scene, no need to BYOG). There are lots of reports on these places so you should find them and take notes. Both these places (PG and Bantayan) are special places worth a visit of a few days, no longer than that for me.
AC is the Costco of bars and sex, w / easy pickings for any guy. To me though the ladies are average, in the 5, 6.7 category. The stunners are hard to find but fun to hunt for, nonetheless. BF prices in the bars from $25 up to who knows. Should be happy for the night for around $60 for 1 lady. Puerta Galera is a 2 hr. Bus / 2 hr. Boat ride away (4 hrs. Total) worth the effort. It's a divers paradise w / a small quaint beach town feel (Sabang). The bargirls there are warm and friendly and I heard the prices have gone up. Lots of little beaches to go to by renting a boat w / a driver for about $20/30 for a 1/2 day.
Cebu has the lookers IMO. There are fewer places to hunt but both times I have been to Cebu I have been impressed w / the cebuanas. The prices are higher than in AC, last November 2000p BF plus tip for a bargirl but they were hot looking stunners for the most part. One problem w / Cebu is the Korean guys get special treatment and it can get in the way of the fun, but I had no problem getting what I wanted eventually. So that's about all I have time for, you should find the numerous reports and they should have all the info you need. Bantayan is a 2 hr drive / 1, 5 hr boat ride away. Inexpensive resorts there w / vacany's, it is a pristine gorgeous island, must BYOG.
As for Colombia. The language issue is VERY large and I have been studying now for almost 2 years. Once I have the ability to converse easily w / the Colombianas I am not sure where I will want to go for fun. The Colombianas are spectacular looking and can handle themselves in a party atmosphere much better. You give a filipina 4 drinks and she will throw up and pass out. The Colombiana can drink you under the table and then REALLY FUCK YOUR BRAINS OUT. If I could only go to one place it would be Colombia, easy decision.
The cost on the ground in both Colombia and PI are (in my experience) very similar. In an AC BJ bar what, $15 for a 5 to blow you. In a Colombian Casa. 30 minutes (w / an 8 or 9) $18, w / a beer $19. 50. Very similar EXCEPT to the eye. In Colombia, $18 to fuck a beautiful model and that's why I am so freaking happy all the time. Hahahahaha heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Just trying to help.
Member #4351
07-03-12, 22:53
What happened to your PM function? Pay Jackson or fix it please.
SMO,
Dear Sir can you please RTFF. It would save alot of time if you did your own research and narrowed down your choices and asked specific questions. Your posts sound highly unrealistic and to me (I could be wrong) this seems like your first International excursion and probably your first sortie into the monger realm.
Just to clarify things. Cebu does not have white sand close to the city. You will have to travel 1. 5hrs+ outside of Cebu City to places like Moalboal, Bantayan Island ect or take a fast craft ferry to Bohol to find a nice beach. Most of those places are usually BYOG.
For an Internationally rated 4 or 5 star resort around Cebu expect to pay 100-400USD+ per night for a resort located on the water with some sand. Only a handful of real 4 and 5 star resorts around Cebu. If you want to stay at a resort on the cheap expect to pay 60-100USD per night for something that even some locals will refuse to stay at.
Enjoy Cebu, but looking at your long list of absolutely picture perfect paradise prerequisites, Cebu is not for you.
You have a vision in your head of all the wonderful things waiting for you. The sexy women who will do anything you want at the drop of a hat and only demand a kiss as payment. There are the pure unspoiled white sand beaches. There are the amazing resorts that cater to your every whim and request. They have a crystal clear pool, amazing turquioise water all around the resort with no other guests in sight. A room with a huge king sized bed flat screen and a glass shower in the cr that fits four comfortably. The rate is 20USD per night! The front desk staff always tell you how sorry they are for overcharging and provide you with endless free drinks to help ease your pain. As you sit under the shade of a large tree on the beach you have one filipina feed you fruit and two more give you a nice slow body massage. Hmm, this can be had in the Philippines? YES it's out there. Just be prepared to pay ALOT for it.
The reality of your trip is something closer to this. You arrive at the airport and step off the plane. The AC in the terminal is not working and you are sweating buckets. You wait for a taxi and the driver 'forgets' to turn on his meter and suddenly the taxi ride that should of been 150p becomes 500p. You arrive at the hotel and your room smells like mould and there are no fresh towels. The view from the hotel is a concrete wall of the next building. The DIA girl who seemed so into you on the internet isn't returning your calls and when you finally talk to her she tells you her auntie needs her to babysit and she is unavailable. The same kind of result from DIA girls number two, three and four. When you step out on the streets of Cebu you are shocked at all the garbage, street kids, pollution and fast food outlets. You finally get a DIA contact to come stay with you and she bangs you silly. Just what you needed! You decide to switch hotels to a resort on a beach the next day. You book and pay for a 5 day stay in advance but your girl reveals the first night she is now on her period and she wants her family members to come swim for the day and stay for the buffet dinner. She explains it's just three family members and you give the ok to your girl, but fourteen people show up.
While all those things might not happen to you, they are all real possibilities. Adjust your expectations. Strongly suggest you RTFF and find a few posts by members who recently made there first trips to the places you want to visit. See if there expectations became reality or if there trip turned into something very different.That was a good post, and I'm sure no holds barred approach will help many others who stumble across this.
Yes I see that my expectations can be unrealistic, but no one is born with the knowledge that's why you come somewhere like here seeking it. I wasn't to know, obviously as you say yourself, there are places that serve up certain elements of what I'm looking for, and what you read and is promoted can give someone a skewed idea.
I have honestly done a lot of research, and sometimes it is difficult to find what you are looking for and can take time. You are right, it's my first monger tour, so I have questions. From what I've seen many people wanted to know the same thing, where a nice and the women were in the same place. Hey a vacation always better with a good beach no?
No intentions of going on DIA, rather the GoGo Bars / Massage Parlours / Brothels etc etc.
Like I said though, I've done a lot of research before I asked any questions, that's in my nature, I just like people to confirm what I know, or show me what I don't. As such Pattaya In Thailand sounds like a better place for me. Thanks for sharing the info.
This is a forum where people share information, publicly or not, on there experiences and advice for fellow users. In case you haven't noticed. Everyone is doing it all over ISG. Please do NOT single me out for something the majority of people do, and signed up for. Publicly asking and replying to questions helps me as well as others. If someone chooses not to answer me, that is there choice, not yours. No need to be rude.I am not being rude but this is the Cebu forum, sorry that you think I am being rude when I mention you should pay the site $20 so people can pm you. If you do make it to Cebu you are not going to meet up with any one if we can not pm you. With the budget you are saying you will need to contact people as Cebu is not the cheapest town to visit a 4 star hotel will cost you $1500 for 3 weeks, girls and bar hops will be $2000 or more at$100 per night and that is cheap end of town. There are no beaches close to town, so enjoy patts, as I mentioned in my first reply to you.
From the AC thread.
I never said AC does not have stunners. It does for sure, but they are rare and I have to admit that I have never bar fined an AC stunner. Which bars have stunners would make an excellent topic. I have found a couple 9*s in Golden Nile and Blue Nile Executive, Club Asia, and the big boys; Dolls House and Atlantis but for some reason or another I never could connect with them. I remember the first couple nights of my first trip to AC, when I hunted exclusively for the really hot girls; my results were not too good. Looking back, I am still not sure what the problem was, but when I recalibrated my target on the third night, I met with great success and that's the way it has been for me ever since. I now search AC almost exclusively for the nice looking, friendly, girl next door types and I am very satisfied with the results.
When I included Cebu in my list of destinations with stunners, I was specifically thinking of the lineup at Arena. Last time I was there in March, I was very impressed with the number of girls and the respectable percentage of real lookers at that nightclub. I can't put my finger on what the difference was (probably ethnic) , but the Arena girls looked different than the girls at AF1 or Pegasus in Manila, but still very attractive.
You are right that Macau is not comparable to AC in price and I also think in terms of quality. The Chinese super models in the top Saunas go for $200 to $275 for ST and a healthy number of them are really beautiful. On another level, Filipinas FL's hanging out in Macau bars like MP3 want $100 or more for LT and most of them are not very attractive at all, IMHO. But a stunner in AF1, Pegasus, or Arena is going to cost a huge sum. You can't walk out of Arena for example with a really hot girl for under 8000p. And the cost is higher at AF1 and Pegasus, so these joints with arguably the best looking P4P girls in the PI are comparable to Macau Saunas in terms of price and quality. MBC and FL's aside, Manila can be a very high priced place to play the game.
Once you make friends with a high priced girl from one of these nightclubs, you can easily make arrangements to see her again for a lot less $$$ and cut out the club. That's what I did with my little spinner I met at Arena. After the initial big barfine night (BF was 6000p) , I gave her around 2000p in gifts and money for our afternoon trysts. She was a real nice and very good looking girl. I am still in YahooM with her and plan to see her again sometime. Arena keeps a large chunk of her earnings and she was living in a dormitory with a bunch of other girls. She was eager to come with me to Palawan, but I was not sure at the time since I had only known her for a few days, so I left her in Cebu City. Next time, if all goes well, I might just take her to some beach.
Getting back to my original post, I am happy to accept AC for what it is and to have a real good time with the friendly, nice looking, but not spectacular girl next door type bar girls there. I go to Macau for the Chinese stunners (visa cards readily accepted) , to BKK for the variety including stunners (and because I love Thai girls) , and to Manila for better looking and very friendly English speaking Filipina girls.
I am going to be back in the big three: Macau, MNL, and BKK in less than 90 days. Unfortunately I will not be stopping by AC on this trip, but my itinerary includes Jakarta and Batam for the first time. It should be a real good trip. I will be spending 3 nights in Malate on the way in and 3 nights in Makati on the way out.
Infinity is another place for stunners, and the good old pump 1, which is just a pick up joint. Most of the stunners get bar fined pretty quick, so you do need to bar hop, you see some of the best girls with guests and you can go back early the next day.
Mc don you need to visit Cebu more, I have met guys who visit Cebu after AC and like what they see here, I find that the Cebu girls who go to AC are the ones who get banned from the bars and are not the number 1 girls they make too much money to do stupid stuff.
Hey guys,
I am currently in Cebu and was in Viking yesterday. The girls told me that they don't barfine anymore due to a raid. Anyone else heard that? Is this only in Viking or in other bars as well?
ThanksDo you look asian? They get "raided" from time to time (often the cops hang out in there all night) and you have to meet the girl outside in the petrol station and pay her. If I get any info I will post here. See if there are some locals sitting at the end of the pool table next time you go there.
Do you look asian? They get "raided" from time to time (often the cops hang out in there all night) and you have to meet the girl outside in the petrol station and pay her. If I get any info I will post here. See if there are some locals sitting at the end of the pool table next time you go there.I am not Asian and there were a few locals hanging around. I don't know I'll try again maybe it was a bad night.
This is a forum where people share information, publicly or not.OK, Swag, just pay the twenty bucks, man. This forum is probably the best annual investment any reasonable man could make. Sheeesh. If you don't have an extra $20how do ever expect to get laid, man? Peace.
The gal I talked to said she couldn't make any money with the new inconveniences, so she pulled out a napkin and wrote her contact info on it. She said she'd be happy to miss work the next day since she wasn't making money at the bar. (this is a generic report and not connected to the bar named earlier in this thread). Another bar seems to be taking advantage of the confusion with 2. 8k barfines.
I had a few phone numbers and dates set up before arrival so I wasn't really dependant on the bars. I guess a newbie might never come back though. Penny wise, pound foolish? Unfortunately, I got lazy and had a dia gal rip me off. Duh.
Although an earlier poster is right to suggest that locals in the bar might be causing some hesitation on the part of the bars, I think the bars are also realizing that some holy roller Westerner may be coming into the bars to snitch.
SOme of you remember the old Black Hole. The place has a new name (which I deliberately omit) and wow, there is a very small, skinny lady there with some really hefty boobs. So rare. She seems to prefer the smaller appendages offerred by East Asian customers, but given time, I would have found a way to have a go at her. X.
I am not Asian and there were a few locals hanging around. I don't know I'll try again maybe it was a bad night.
El Cubanito
07-17-12, 12:34
Hi guys,
I am going to Cebu in August and I am looking for a place to stay close to the beach and girl friendly. Can somebody give me some info.
El Cubanito
Wicked Roger
07-17-12, 18:25
Hi guys,
I am going to Cebu in August and I am looking for a place to stay close to the beach and girl friendly. Can somebody give me some info.
El CubanitoAm sure others will chip in but the better beaches are some way from the city and the more intersting attractions. You can visit the resorts (eg Plantation, Shangri La) for the day etc or go the resort in Danao but again a long way from Cebu City or those south of the city (2-3 hrs drive maybe)
If a beach is a must then thats my view but if a decent hotel with pool is also OK then you have more choices closed to the centre.
IMHO all hotels as GF so don't worry about that.
Other will am sure have some advice.
El C. Check you inbox also
i went to redlips and viking tonight and it was the usual biz, bar fines are still going on, redlips contact confirmed the before the bust there no **** where working so it sounds like a ngo setup, she did not deny that there was no **** at the bar that night so i wonder how they found the girl, the girl i know is 27 and most of the girls there are older quite a few are ex jaguar and the bust that closed that down they still remember, there was no girl i saw who even looked 18 there tonight unlike other bars i have seen in the past where korean go in big numbers.
viking had the usual police visits a few nights ago so they stopped bar fines, you could still get the girls out side if you wanted, it was back to normal tonight. it was mostly korean men.
in both places numbers of clients was down, very few guys spending money.
Starchild2012
07-18-12, 05:06
i went to redlips and viking tonight and it was the usual biz, bar fines are still going on, redlips contact confirmed the before the bust there no **** where working so it sounds like a ngo setup, she did not deny that there was no **** at the bar that night so i wonder how they found the girl, the girl i know is 27 and most of the girls there are older quite a few are ex jaguar and the bust that closed that down they still remember, there was no girl i saw who even looked 18 there tonight unlike other bars i have seen in the past where korean go in big numbers.
viking had the usual police visits a few nights ago so they stopped bar fines, you could still get the girls out side if you wanted, it was back to normal tonight. it was mostly korean men.
in both places numbers of clients was down, very few guys spending money.thanks for the info. viking, arena, sistar will be my first stop after arriving at cebu airport...i can't breathe with excitement all around...hehehe
I was wrong, they will not let you bar fine no more, they let me bar fine as I have been going there for years, another punter is in town and told me they said no to him, this happened before with arena last year, seems that it depends on the guy if they know you.
I was talking to a local police I know, he told me there is a increase of drug use with tourists here, he said expect to see some arrests, and if you do not pay the 200-500k fine expect to stay in jail. There are guys asking girls to get shabu and guys smoking pot in discos. The girls I have spoken to say the guys are not trusting them and they telling them to leave their phones and take jeepney etc, it only takes a girl to think fuck this I rather get some of the fine from the cops for reporting the guy, as the cops are offering finders fees.
You will be suprized how many undercover cops there are in cebu. So think twice before you start asking for illegal drugs.
I'm not fond of the over priced and man-made beaches at Mactan, but that might fit the bill if you need to be close to the city. There is a gaudy looking place that has recently been showing up on the online profiles of gals. I think the name is Imperial Palace. Has anyone been there?
Now, if you want to do an overnight with gal you might consider Panglao on Bohol or White beach near Moalboal. Both places are very attractive but need about three hours travel time.
I haven't visited, but in north Cebu Island the popular destinations are Bantayan and Malapasqua. Both islands.
Someone mentioned a resort at Danao, which is about an hour by taxi north of Cebu. There are some dumpy local places there, but there was one place that looked a bit upscale and had large flotation devices out in the water. I didn't visit and I don't know the name of the place.
X.
Hi guys,
I am going to Cebu in August and I am looking for a place to stay close to the beach and girl friendly. Can somebody give me some info.
El Cubanito
Stroker Ace88
07-23-12, 05:40
I'm not fond of the over priced and man-made beaches at Mactan, but that might fit the bill if you need to be close to the city. There is a gaudy looking place that has recently been showing up on the online profiles of gals. I think the name is Imperial Palace. Has anyone been there?Imperial Palace is positioned mid-range when it comes to Mactan resorts. 100-250+$USD depending on where you book the hotel. Local rate is slightly lower. Rooms are smaller but clean. The hotel is a well-known destination for Koreans and depending on what time of year you visit, you might feel "invaded" as the locals call it. Five different pools and a waterpark including a few water slides. Alot of filipinas are excited to stay at Imperial Palace as word travels fast about the water park.
For the same rate you could book Crimson. IMO much better hotel and service level but price depends what room you book. If you really want to splurge book a private villa with a 'plunge pool' and enjoy skinny dipping under the stars.
The main pool at Crimson is not as nice as Imperial Palace.
WestCoast1
07-27-12, 00:30
So where do I post a field report? Here, or the General Information thread?
Wicked Roger
07-27-12, 03:55
So where do I post a field report? Here, or the General Information thread?WC.
Many post in Cebu Travel Reports so try that thread.
Stroker Ace88
11-12-12, 18:33
To bozo-nuts in the hotel room next to me WTF is your problem?
Last night you came back to your room at 4am screaming your head off to your buddy about some BG. Your loud drunken rants were almost comical but for the fact it woke me and my GF up (and the rest of the guests on this floor).
"That fucken' bit*h! She wanted more money, always telling me it's not enough not enough not enough! Always telling me it's up to me! UP TO ME UP TO ME!" This went on for 20minutes. Loud drunken a-hole. Before security could arrive your buddy calmed you down and convinced you to go out looking for some pussy. At 430am on a Sunday night good luck. I fell back to sleep.
Now you are back in your room tonight. It's 1:20am. For the past hour or so my gf and I have been listening to you and a bakla argue over money. You told her to leave and she went into the hall then knocked on your door asking for forgiveness and you let her back in. This happened three times! Gesssuusss you are the hotel guest from hell. Now my GF has stopped watching her Filipino drama program and has the TV on mute with her ear against the wall giving me play by play of all the negotiations.
It's more fun in the Philippines. (insert eye-roll smiley here)
Thanks for the info. I checked Crimson website and it looks nice. I usually don't like to pay so much, but it might be nice for a special night with a special someone.
Thanks again, X.
Imperial Palace is positioned mid-range when it comes to Mactan resorts. 100-250+$USD depending on where you book the hotel. Local rate is slightly lower. Rooms are smaller but clean. The hotel is a well-known destination for Koreans and depending on what time of year you visit, you might feel "invaded" as the locals call it. Five different pools and a waterpark including a few water slides. Alot of filipinas are excited to stay at Imperial Palace as word travels fast about the water park.
For the same rate you could book Crimson. IMO much better hotel and service level but price depends what room you book. If you really want to splurge book a private villa with a 'plunge pool' and enjoy skinny dipping under the stars.
The main pool at Crimson is not as nice as Imperial Palace.
Stroker Ace88
11-13-12, 04:42
Thanks for the info. I checked Crimson website and it looks nice. I usually don't like to pay so much, but it might be nice for a special night with a special someone.
Thanks again, X.I heard through the bamboo vine that Crimson is not doing so well. Guests are down and you can snag a promo price if you book a week or more in advance. The resto on site has changed the menu and the hotel is trying to attract more affluent expats that live in Lapux2 and Cordova. Both hotel rooms and resto prices are over-priced maybe 30-40percent IMO, but that goes for most places that are geared to foreigners.
Wicked Roger
11-13-12, 05:21
trying to attract more affluent expats that live in Lapux2 and Cordova. Both hotel rooms and resto prices are over-priced maybe 30-40percent IMO, but that goes for most places that are geared to foreigners.SA.
Are there affluent expats in Cordova. LOL Just I always think that part of town is not affluent based on a few ladies who are desperate to get out of the Cordova area.
As for the shouting and screaming in hotels. I find the pinoy families the worse, wake up at 5am, turn on the TV (very loud) , kids on rampage in the corridor, can't hold a converstaion without shouting at each other and no respect for anyone in the adjoining rooms.
And when you ask them to shut up as it is 5am. They look at you as if you have grown 3 heads and get very offended.
Xman. What do you mean someone special? And not pay that much? We allvknow you are man of subtantial means. But I also know you are generous with the ladies which to me is the important thing (and v kinky if rumours are true LOL)
Stroker Ace88
11-13-12, 06:14
SA.
Are there affluent expats in Cordova. LOL Just I always think that part of town is not affluent based on a few ladies who are desperate to get out of the Cordova area.
As for the shouting and screaming in hotels. I find the pinoy families the worse, wake up at 5am, turn on the TV (very loud) , kids on rampage in the corridor, can't hold a converstaion without shouting at each other and no respect for anyone in the adjoining rooms.
And when you ask them to shut up as it is 5am. They look at you as if you have grown 3 heads and get very offended.
Xman. What do you mean someone special? And not pay that much? We allvknow you are man of subtantial means. But I also know you are generous with the ladies which to me is the important thing (and v kinky if rumours are true LOL) There are some well to-do expats there. A few clusters of German Japanese and Korean expats in the better subdivisions. Personally Mactan Lapux2 and Cordova are not my taste. The draw is a nice sea view, but Mactan has mostly wide mud flats, and having to deal with the traffic on the bridges is a negative.
Crimson was targeting mostly foreign tourists before, but that's not working.
Roger, Were those rhetorical questions?
No deep meaning there unfortunately. If I like a gal enough to spend time with her, then I like to be at a nice place with a pool or beach. Right now there is a cute lapu2 factory worker who might need some extra wooing so I thought about a night or two at Mactan. Many years ago I stayed at Belle Vista near the bridge and explored the seedy Lapu2 bars.
A quick glance at the Crimson web site indicated their most inexpensive Deluxe rooms are 7000. X.
SA.
SNIP.
Xman. What do you mean someone special? And not pay that much? We allvknow you are man of subtantial means. But I also know you are generous with the ladies which to me is the important thing (and v kinky if rumours are true LOL)
Wicked Roger
11-13-12, 17:39
Roger, Were those rhetorical questions?
No deep meaning there unfortunately. If I like a gal enough to spend time with her, then I like to be at a nice place with a pool or beach. Right now there is a cute lapu2 factory worker who might need some extra wooing so I thought about a night or two at Mactan. Many years ago I stayed at Belle Vista near the bridge and explored the seedy Lapu2 bars.
A quick glance at the Crimson web site indicated their most inexpensive Deluxe rooms are 7000. X.LOL.
7000! Well not for me.
Talking of ladies another cutie was asking after you, maybe you let her wear bra and panties on the plane / while in the mall etc and are not as cruel with other extras she craves so much?
Bella Vista looks even seedier now, friend stayed there recently as was close to the airport. Nothing to write home about
Questor 55
11-13-12, 20:00
If you are looking for a beach resort on Mactan that is not too expensive, I recommend Tambuli WEST. There is also a Tambuli EAST, but both the rooms and pool area are superior at WEST. Double with aircon and breakfast runs about 3000-3500. Two pools and lovely grounds. Last time I was in Cebu I stayed there on four separate occasions, twice with one companion and twice with two. So, definitely girl friendly with no raised eyebrows. For reservations you can call this number, (032) 492 1888. Be sure to specify WEST.
Hey fellow mongers,
I've been mongering for a while and have pretty much found my go to spots to monger like Angeles. I was just hoping to get some of your opinions on Cebu? How you like the mongering scene, if it's worth, comparisons, etc. I've heard and read a lot about the beach clubs, etc. Any thoughts and could you relate it to anything in Pattaya or Angeles?
Thanks for your time,
YG
Wicked Roger
12-01-12, 18:26
Hey fellow mongers,
I've been mongering for a while and have pretty much found my go to spots to monger like Angeles. I was just hoping to get some of your opinions on Cebu? How you like the mongering scene, if it's worth, comparisons, etc. I've heard and read a lot about the beach clubs, etc. Any thoughts and could you relate it to anything in Pattaya or Angeles?
Thanks for your time,
YGStay where you are YG as you won't enjoy Cebu at all. Best you go AC and Pattaya as so much more culture there and let Cebu be visited by people like me and a few dedicated others
Stay where you are YG as you won't enjoy Cebu at all. Best you go AC and Pattaya as so much more culture there and let Cebu be visited by people like me and a few dedicated othersI concur with WR. Borrring and a lot more work than Angeles or Pattaya.
Cheapy
MutantChicken
12-05-12, 09:34
I would like to preface this post firstly by thanking all past posters for the background info and whilst the utilisation of of all this information can be of questionable success nevertheless I would to express my than ks and gratitude. I would especially like to thank one particular member who went to far as to email me some of his contacts and whilst these contacts turn out not to a success I still feel enormous goodwill for this member. I will not name him due to the fact that he will prob be inundated by guys wanted to have his assistance. I will recount my experieced and even tho some of these will not be positive I still don't want to come across as ungratfule or I'm disrespecting the said member who was helpful, its just a matter of different tastes.
Street workers colon / peleaz.
I was coming back from the islands with backpack and I found myself on this street at 7pm and I saw 1 cute girls prob a 7 19-20 yrs old I was curious and I asked her the price 500p, later that nite I hit the bars so was too lazy to go find her again. The next day was the day of the typhoon and so there was not much action around that time.
Streeet workers Juleanna osama.
I was curious so I walked prob 500m at 9pm one night and yes the girls looked unclean and generally unsavoury. I started around the bookstore and walked up a bit.
Jave / mango square.
One night I decided to activelly approach some girls, one girl seems unintyerested was turning away from me, another turned out to have another prospective buyer in line so she didn't talk to me. I think if you come at 12=1am like I did most girls have already had offeres that have not been finalised. The final girl was prob a 6. 5-7. She seems very interested in me but the story is that she is a nursing student from manila here studing and her dormitory has girls working the bars and this little cadre of girls was pushing her to maintain the fixed price of 3000 a night, I maanaged to talk her down to 2000 which is still a bit high given I can get 8's in the bars fpr 2500 so I passed on her offer. Outside on the square were all transsexuals so it was not very enticing.
Ayalla mall.
I spent prob a toal of 4-5 hours spread over 3 days and I didn't see any girls thats were more attarctive than the ones found in the bars and they either didmt look like they were on the game or they just werent my tastes. I even saw the DIA dates of a few guys and all I can say was very undesirable.
Personal contacts referred by a gratious member.
I was given contacts of two ladies, one was describes as bi slim sexy betc, her name was queenie.
The seocnd name was apple, with a nice body, I get contacted by apple first and she is quite flirty and speakes via text in a pleasant way. I am further told by my said mentor that ehr pays these girls 2000+taxi.
So I organise to meet apple as she is the first one to contact me at ayala, she is punctual and courteous when she arrives, she described herself as 21 gorgeous, witty and sexy, the girl I met I would give her a 5in looks she looks plump and dressed like a girl in her 30s so she looked sloser to 27 than 21. Anway as I didn't want to waste her time nor mine, I told her that I didn't know what she looked like and if it was possible that I give her taxi money and taht we part ways, I did offer to take her to lunch beofre I rejected her based on her not being my type.
Later I get a text from queenie but now considerig the price I was thinking 1000-1500 and the previous encounter whether I should proceed with these said meetups with freelancer.
I mean 2500 for a 8 bar girl w stays over nights and gives me 3 round OR a 5-6 college girl 2000+taxi.
Another point if interest, I got a offer from a bar girl who works at a bar that is 2000 bar fine, I had taken another girl where she stayed me me 4 hrs and we had two round, she had intened to stay till morning but she said she had to do something in the morning so I was happy to let her go, so the second girls who offered me to meet me out of the bar, she now says she wanst me to give her 1500 per roound and she was planning to stay 2-3 hours. What is in the minds of these girls where she thinks a monger would agree. I mean from her persepctive if I bar fine her at the bar out of that 2000 she only gets 800, now if I take her out of of the ssytem she gets 1500, BUT on my side of the equations I get 2000/3 round if my take her from the bar or 3000/2 round if I take her out, I mean where's the logic
MutantChicken
12-08-12, 04:33
Yester day I tried the girls on colon out of the 3-4 there one was a 6. 5,7 in the room as she was a girls prob 90 pounds with with be-see cips, over all a great fuck everything you could ask for and cost me 500+100 tip took about 1hr to get the deed done. I was unrushed but I didn't want to do the usual hugging afterwards.
I then tried a girsl I was chatting with at the bars I previosly mentions 750p in lady drinks and 1700 bar fine, a really nice girl but just not into sex, must have some residual emotional issies she stayed overnite, refused BJ but everything else was GFE with kissing and hugging but since she refused a BJ I couldn't get hard to fuck her at night and only managed a round with my morning glory. Again nice girls but not accomadating towards sex so whilst I wasnt upset or angry I didn't think she deserved a tip and she didn't ask for one but is suppose 2500 ie 1700+750 in LD to fuck and hug a girls overnight isn't such a bad deal not the best but I won't be crying.
On my last day in cebu, I decided to take a large breasted girl from one of the bars again it was 1700+750 in mandatory LD. She stay till morning was kissing and GFE BUT she was telling me she didn't know HOW to BJ so that was kind of annoying, but she was willing to go three rounds with me so in leaving I tipped her 300.
Then this next experience would have been the highlight of my trip. Earlier I mentioned that I was in contact with a fellow forum member and he had questioned my preference for bar girls rather than freelancers and my answer was that bar girls were better looking, tho more expensive and gave me a GFE comparable to freelancer. Well in this last example I may have to eat some of my words. The said gentleman had given me contacts to two ladies the first was not to my liking, the second was the complete match to what I like her name was I incorrectly said queenie but was infact AMANDA, who is 23, bisexual, slim and best of all a very good conversationalist and gave the impression of a very nice wholesome girl, BUT with a wicked sexual core. Overall she was a very good sexual partner, I ended up with 5 bar girls and 3 were equally horney, so was the grils from colon street and finally amanda gave me the best impression of as GFE as possible given the way we met. I was told she normally asked for 2000, but she said I can give her 1500 and she was going to stay with me for 5-6hrs. Wow the time went so quickly and in the end including her taxi I gave her about 1800.
So in summary ill repeat what others have said about cebu, that if you have the time and the perseverance then Cebu freelancer hunting can be a very profitable experience but you have to take a few hots before you strike gold, unless you can convince the cebu samaritan to pass you amanda details.
I am now in AC and so I will give a brief comparision between cebu and AC, ill qualify that I'm a budget minded guy, I don't drink and I'm her to have sex with attractive girl, I'm not here to impress girls with my money or status, Chinese-australian, and I have been told I'm reasonably attractive but who knows what thats means lets say I'm not ugly as narcistic as that sounds.
Accomodation.
Cebu is slightly more expensive as in cebu I was paying 1500 for a similar room in ac that I'm paying 1000.
Daytime activities.
Cebu is a tad bit closer to the beaches etc and has more cultural sites but most guys are going for sex holidays so I don't thinks thats much relevant, you can mall hunt and DIA meet in cebu, in AC the DIA girls tend to be working in the bars anyway so not exactly easy to find college girls etc. Both have malls in which to watch movies, BUt on the flip side cvebu has the BJ bars and perimiter road bars that open up early as opposed to the 8pm opening times of cebu bars.
Bargirls.
The girls in cebu tend to be more slimmer and fairer, so in a average bar in cebu I would be be able to say thats 50-60% ie 4-5 out of the 10-15grisl working would be attarctive for me, BUT in AC I would go in a bar and see only 5-10% of the girls being adequately attractive so the bar could have 30girls and I'd say onlly 1-2 would be worth the effort. In AC much more fatter girls with stretch marks that I find more unttractive than darker skin, and generally the ages are older in AC. But the sheer number of girls in AC allows to to bottom feed hunt, looking for that diamond in the rough, which could be a activity to pass the time. The large number of bars is also another positive because in cebu there were only 5-6 bars in which I found the girls to be attractive and asked for a reasonable price ie lessthan 3000, so after tou have takes 1 girsl from each of those bars, I found myself in the position where othergirls from the same bar refused my interest based on their own code of "bros before ho's", so even if you have girls you are interested in the same bar you will not have the possibility of tasted the second girls.
Bar costs.
In cebu the drinks were generally 65, the lady 150-200, bar fines based on what you can get away with paying the least is about 2200-2500. Ie the barfine and min LD drinks bought. In AC it is a bit more deceptive, perimeter road is 65 drinks. 120 ld. 1000-1500 in bar fines but I think you would be hard pressed to find girls attractive enuff, fields ave bars, the drinks were 95 ld 150-300 and barfines 1800-3000, but I tink given the tendancy you would get a girl on avergafe for 2000.
So I'm my view when you factor in averages the price would be similar to cebu and AC tho if you look at min pricing then AC is cheaper.
In my mind AC is where you can go purely for sex, ie the pay the minimum for a girl regardless of looks, but you have more chances to find diamond, and you can stay longer without encountering the two girl blockage.
Cebu is where you go if you want to put in the time and effort to find a "normal" girl or to find hassle free attarctive girls without having to hit 5-6bars looking for that special girl
Mutantchicken I was wondering which mango bars are enforcing this mininum 750pesos lady drink policy with the barfine. Surely it must be the bars only trying this to newbies. I'm sure expats living there don't have to pay this minimum lady drink policy. Maybe some foreigners living there can enlighten us about this.
Thank you for your good info. I have been to Cebu and A / see fields and agree with all that you say. I would add. If I met a girl in A / C it would be a long time before I would come to think she was not, is not and has not been a bar girl. In cebu I think there is a good chance to meet normal girl while out and about. Now somethimes you do with out the freak with the normal girls. Lots of I have never done that. No my friends do not want to come over also. So, I would pick soley on wether or not it was a sex trip. I can say I never get tired of the newbies. But sometimes need the freaky sex. Thanks again for the info.
Stroker Ace88
12-09-12, 12:40
Mutantchicken I was wondering which mango bars are enforcing this mininum 750pesos lady drink policy with the barfine. Surely it must be the bars only trying this to newbies. I'm sure expats living there don't have to pay this minimum lady drink policy. Maybe some foreigners living there can enlighten us about this.The guys who have been around for awhile and are known to the girls, the mamasan and-or the owner (either one or all) do not have to pay a drink minimum to barfine. Granted we are usually the ones to sit and buy a few LD's and shoot the shit while watching the girls on stage anyways. From what I heard this new policy is there to stop the 'cheap charlie' guys who come in and stand at the stage to inspect the girls close up or they request a line-up and choose the girl without ever sitting down, ordering a drink or talking to the girl. Now those guys have to pay-up.
If you're a newbie expect to be asked to buy drinks and sit awhile. Some places do not care if you buy three drinks for three different girls. Just make sure to ask a few questions before awarding a few LD's as many BG's have turned into drink sluts who are there for the drinks but refuse to barfine. Do not award a girl who is only there for conversation. Bargirls are there to be barfined!
MutantChicken
12-11-12, 18:38
My view of this is this, the bars that have a mandatory min of drinks the barfine is priced at 1700+750= 2450, the bars that done the bar fine is 2000, and it would take on avg 2 drinks at 200 each to determine if you are compatible with her. 2200, and there are other bars whewre the girls were wanting 3000, so like the other poster mentioned the expats or regulars who don't get charged that 750 are already buying prob 750 in drinsk for the mamsan or the owner or their fav bar girls anyway, so it not worth geting ruffled about over <20usd.
It just like in the AC thread guys are getting upset about xyz overpaying, but if for example I take a girl for 1500, then I take her bar hopping, take her to dinner at a italian place take her to the movie and I spend 1000, which is never reported, but if I was to take her to the hotel and we have a relaxing night watching tv and fucking, then I report that I tipped her 1000, then I'd be flamed as being someone who is ruining the market. The girls would rather have a extra tipp than being dragged around to places they don't really enjoy anyway.
My two cents
This is a work in progress, because I am still in manila and having a fucking good time.
I spent my fist week in Cebu and I am traveling alone. On my first full day I go to the girlie bars to re acquaint myself with what is around.
I am staying at the Crown Regency Towers so my local is the Silver Dollar. I have read some negative info about this place but in my limited experience it is as good as any bar in Cebu. A big plus is this bar opens at 1 pm, while the rest open at 7 or 8 pm. If you are looking for a new day time hook up this place may be your best option. The second shift starts at 4 pm and finishes at 1 am.
In the "mango square' area there are some clubs and a few hundred meters away a cluster of girlie bars which many here know well. Pussy cat / lovecity / papillon / dimples / red lips / viking / eric / planet x etc. Over the week I visit all of them and I can make the following generalizations.
The average girl I met was about 22, 5ft1, 40 kg, has 1 child, pretty. 600 facebook friends and a beautiful smile. Overall I found the girls are good fun but I did have some poor experiences.
The last place I visit on my 1st night is Pump Disco. It is the 17th Dec and a Monday night, so when I walk in at 2am it looks very quite. I see a tallish girl dancing around the tables and without any inhibitions try to make a move on her. She doesn't look like a working girl and the situation becomes awkward when she doesn't reciprocate, but I persevere and eventually we make good conversation.
Soon I realize she is a freelancer. Her name is Min, can't remember her age now but think she is 24. She has some distinctive characteristics, like her height, glamorous hair (to Korean taste) and very submissive mannerisms. Initially I was not planning to take her home. I was more interested in just getting some numbers and a good night sleep.
Min introduced me to her 'friends' who were sitting outside and drinking. They included other working girls and Korean guys. This would be my only night at Pump (too many other distractions in Cebu) but what I understood is this place was typically a Korean hangout.
After an hour of drinking and talking, I get a lot of insight from the Korean perspective of girls here. I won't elaborate, but found they were a bit shamless in how they talked about the phil girls (actually I find some of us westerners there not too dissimilar). Min tried to keep a dignified face in their company, but I saw it was wearing her down. Later she would even complain about these guys but I found it strange because she chose to work there as well.
I take her back to my hotel. Reception ask for her I'd. They do not look her in the eye and predominantly looking down on the ground and keeping silent except when talking to me. I wonder if Min notices this and when we get into the elevator she comes out with 'sometimes I just hate myself'. Turned out she was what some would call an 'emo' but in my drunken stupor I did not give her much consolation. Actually I was quite sympathetic to her feeling, but I would learn many times that if you give these girls some heart they can just as easily take advantage of it.
Back in the bedroom she and I just go to sleep without any communication. We wake up 3 or 4 hrs later for some hip grinding and after that neither of us could get any more sleep.
When paying her I gave 2, 000p. It was shown to here as a 1000 note with 2x500 notes inside. She could not possibly know how much I gave her, but nodded anyway and said it was ok.
Stroker Ace88
12-29-12, 20:36
I spent my fist week in Cebu and I am traveling alone. [SNIP]
The last place I visit on my 1st night is Pump Disco. It is the 17th Dec and a Monday night, so when I walk in at 2am it looks very quite. I see a tallish girl dancing around the tables and without any inhibitions try to make a move on her. She doesn't look like a working girl and the situation becomes awkward when she doesn't reciprocate, but I persevere and eventually we make good conversation. [SNIP]
KW,
If you walked up to my GF and just grabbed her or "made a move on her" you would be in deep trouble to say the least. The first time in the Philippines can give you the feeling like you're a rock star and all eyes are on you, but you need to realize this is a place where misunderstandings quickly turn into someone lying on the ground with a chalk outline around them. Yes there are alot of filipinas available to meet and have a good time with, but if you make a move on a filipina that's already taken or your approach is too aggressive her friends or other filipinos will step in and protect her. You went to a disco, not a bikini bar. Be careful, be respectful.
Stand back, assess the situation. Watch who she is with, and try and make eye contact with your chosen filipina to show you're interested. Once you get the right signal approach her in a calm and respectful way, doing this always yourself a way out if her BF comes up to you. Just say the filipina looks like one of your wife's friends and you're looking for her.
Welcome to ISG.
KingsWood.
Thanks for taking the time to give us your experience at the " Pump". The advantage that foreigners have here in the Philippines is that the vast majority of the people here have little or no money. That enables us fortunate enough to be here, to choose from a wide selection of girls.
One person who frequently makes incorrect comments on this board said that the club scene is not as good as it was 5 years ago. Well that is not true. In fact the bar scene has changed little in the last 30 years. The bar scene has changed in Manila because of the closing of the Mabini bars, but here in Cebu, the scene has remained stable since 1983. In Manila, the infamous Major Lim decided that the thriving clubs and bars needed to be closed and systematically started having his goon police start a series of raids which over time forced the closing of those clubs. This changed the scene in Manila but here in cebu city, there has always been a small, vibrant number of bars. However, the best action here has always been how easy it is to meet regular girls, and in my humble, and probably biased opinion, the girls in the southern Philippines islands are the most beautiful of them all.
KingsWood.
Thanks for taking the time to give us your experience at the " Pump". The advantage that foreigners have here in the Philippines is that the vast majority of the people here have little or no money. That enables us fortunate enough to be here, to choose from a wide selection of girls.
One person who frequently makes incorrect comments on this board said that the club scene is not as good as it was 5 years ago. Well that is not true. In fact the bar scene has changed little in the last 30 years. The bar scene has changed in Manila because of the closing of the Mabini bars, but here in Cebu, the scene has remained stable since 1983. In Manila, the infamous Major Lim decided that the thriving clubs and bars needed to be closed and systematically started having his goon police start a series of raids which over time forced the closing of those clubs. This changed the scene in Manila but here in cebu city, there has always been a small, vibrant number of bars. However, the best action here has always been how easy it is to meet regular girls, and in my humble, and probably biased opinion, the girls in the southern Philippines islands are the most beautiful of them all.The club scene and bars are 2 different things here in Cebu, to me the disco clubs have not changed, but the bars have suffered even arena says there is no bar fine, they have stopped the nudity, so explain how that is the same.
Just a little update from a 2 day trip to cebu. A little freelance scene can be found at the burgerbar "Friday" in Ayala Mall. Have a few beers ad smile at the girls passing by and company should be easy. Went to the Mango Square scene, which I had not been to for 5 years. The Viking seemed way bett erthan it was years ago. Nice relaxed vibe and a lot of 9-10. Different vibe at Papillion, Better music there if you ask me. Prices are 3000 at Papilion and 3300 in Viking incl. Barfine. Talked to Nicole (the one with the hughe boobs) Only downside to her an some of the more attractive ones are that they seem a little too pro, having heard too much bula-bula for too long.
Other than that the Chuva Chuva massage is still great for Ling-am massage. 900 peso. I had a treatment from Chris, who was greatat both the massage and the happy ending. She did not ask for a tip or extras (topless etc) before finishing, which usualy can ruin the experience.
Lastly I went to the Wild Orchide Health Club, at the Crown Regency Hotel in the V. Rama avenue. The seems to have been no reports from there in quite awhile. Opening hours 12 am to 2 am. So I was not even sure it was still there. But it was! Its located in the parking cellar of the hotel and is impossible to find without asking the guys out in from of the hotel (or asking in the recpetion)
Massage is 400 pesos and I had 8 girls to choose from. I choose the one with the big boobs and who looked most eperienced. She was! She wanted all inclusive for 4000. Which I laughed at and rejected. 2000 was agreed on and included asshole / prostata massage, bare back blow job and regular fucky fucky (I tried for anal which as usual in PH was rejected).
BrasilSoccer0
01-06-13, 01:54
Socker,
I learned Spanish in six months looong time ago. The trick is to frequently travel to Colombia to practice with friends and not just working girls!
There is a great language schools in Medallo. Cheap by western standards and you'll meet locals who want to learn yours! Try EAFIT.
BS.
I am not an expert on either Colombia or Cebu but those are my main hunting grounds these days. PI has Manila, AC and Cebu, those are the places I am familiar (excluding Manila). AC and Cebu are not beach towns but have beach towns nearby. AC has Puerta Galera and Cebu has Bantayan, Bohol and Moatball. I have been to both Bantayan (definitely BYOG) and Puerto Galera, (has it's own bar scene, no need to BYOG). There are lots of reports on these places so you should find them and take notes. Both these places (PG and Bantayan) are special places worth a visit of a few days, no longer than that for me.
AC is the Costco of bars and sex, w / easy pickings for any guy. To me though the ladies are average, in the 5, 6.7 category. The stunners are hard to find but fun to hunt for, nonetheless. BF prices in the bars from $25 up to who knows. Should be happy for the night for around $60 for 1 lady. Puerta Galera is a 2 hr. Bus / 2 hr. Boat ride away (4 hrs. Total) worth the effort. It's a divers paradise w / a small quaint beach town feel (Sabang). The bargirls there are warm and friendly and I heard the prices have gone up. Lots of little beaches to go to by renting a boat w / a driver for about $20/30 for a 1/2 day.
Cebu has the lookers IMO. There are fewer places to hunt but both times I have been to Cebu I have been impressed w / the cebuanas. The prices are higher than in AC, last November 2000p BF plus tip for a bargirl but they were hot looking stunners for the most part. One problem w / Cebu is the Korean guys get special treatment and it can get in the way of the fun, but I had no problem getting what I wanted eventually. So that's about all I have time for, you should find the numerous reports and they should have all the info you need. Bantayan is a 2 hr drive / 1, 5 hr boat ride away. Inexpensive resorts there w / vacany's, it is a pristine gorgeous island, must BYOG.
As for Colombia. The language issue is VERY large and I have been studying now for almost 2 years. Once I have the ability to converse easily w / the Colombianas I am not sure where I will want to go for fun. The Colombianas are spectacular looking and can handle themselves in a party atmosphere much better. You give a filipina 4 drinks and she will throw up and pass out. The Colombiana can drink you under the table and then REALLY FUCK YOUR BRAINS OUT. If I could only go to one place it would be Colombia, easy decision.
The cost on the ground in both Colombia and PI are (in my experience) very similar. In an AC BJ bar what, $15 for a 5 to blow you. In a Colombian Casa. 30 minutes (w / an 8 or 9) $18, w / a beer $19. 50. Very similar EXCEPT to the eye. In Colombia, $18 to fuck a beautiful model and that's why I am so freaking happy all the time. Hahahahaha heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Just trying to help.
Stroker Ace88
01-06-13, 03:11
Just a little update from a 2 day trip to cebu. A little freelance scene can be found at the burgerbar "Friday" in Ayala Mall. Have a few beers ad smile at the girls passing by and company should be easy.Umm that would be the International restaurant chain TGI Fridays Which has a location on the ground level ayala mall. A tad bit more than a burgerbar but up to you.
Went to the Mango Square scene, which I had not been to for 5 years. The Viking seemed way bett erthan it was years ago. Nice relaxed vibe and a lot of 9-10. Different vibe at Papillion, Better music there if you ask me. Prices are 3000 at Papilion and 3300 in Viking incl. Barfine. Talked to Nicole (the one with the hughe boobs) Only downside to her an some of the more attractive ones are that they seem a little too pro, having heard too much bula-bula for too long.You are getting two seperate places mixed up. Mango Square Is the strip mall location on Gen. Maxilom avenue aka- Mango avenue that contains (YOU) Bar and Sunburst chicken resto ect, and is also the disco bar section on the other side of Mango avenue. Mango Square is best known for picking up semi-pro filipinas or BG's who come looking for extra cash after they finish work at a bikini bar. The BG bars located down Mango avenue are not part of Mango Square.
Other than that the Chuva Chuva massage is still great for Ling-am massage. 900 peso. I had a treatment from Chris, who was greatat both the massage and the happy ending. She did not ask for a tip or extras (topless etc) before finishing, which usualy can ruin the experience.
Lastly I went to the Wild Orchide Health Club, at the Crown Regency Hotel in the V. Rama avenue. The seems to have been no reports from there in quite awhile. Opening hours 12 am to 2 am. So I was not even sure it was still there. But it was! Its located in the parking cellar of the hotel and is impossible to find without asking the guys out in from of the hotel (or asking in the recpetion)
Massage is 400 pesos and I had 8 girls to choose from. I choose the one with the big boobs and who looked most eperienced. She was! She wanted all inclusive for 4000. Which I laughed at and rejected. 2000 was agreed on and included asshole / prostata massage, bare back blow job and regular fucky fucky (I tried for anal which as usual in PH was rejected).Orchid spa is still open in the Crown Regency hotel basement parking garage on V. Rama street. I heard that most of the massage attendants are now in the sub 4-5 range and most foreigners do not partake. They are now mostly patronized and kept open by visiting philippine government agencies such as association of barangay officials, ect which write off the massage as a conference expense.
Umm that would be the International restaurant chain TGI Fridays Which has a location on the ground level ayala mall. A tad bit more than a burgerbar but up to you.
You are getting two seperate places mixed up. Mango Square Is the strip mall location on Gen. Maxilom avenue aka- Mango avenue that contains (YOU) Bar and Sunburst chicken resto ect, and is also the disco bar section on the other side of Mango avenue. Mango Square is best known for picking up semi-pro filipinas or BG's who come looking for extra cash after they finish work at a bikini bar. The BG bars located down Mango avenue are not part of Mango Square.
Orchid spa is still open in the Crown Regency hotel basement parking garage on V. Rama street. I heard that most of the massage attendants are now in the sub 4-5 range and most foreigners do not partake. They are now mostly patronized and kept open by visiting philippine government agencies such as association of barangay officials, ect which write off the massage as a conference expense.Yeah you are right, Stroker. And laso about the Friday restaurant. BTW I'm surprised people don't find the semi-pros in Ayala. Yesterday there were atleast 10-15 girls either promenading around the restaurant as well as a lot of them "waiting" on the stairs down to the garden.
Orchid spa is still open in the Crown Regency hotel basement parking garage on V. Rama street. I heard that most of the massage attendants are now in the sub 4-5 range and most foreigners do not partake. They are now mostly patronized and kept open by visiting philippine government agencies such as association of barangay officials, ect which write off the massage as a conference expense.Girls in Orchid was atleast 7-8's IMHO. I wouldn't less.
Stroker Ace88
01-06-13, 20:33
Yeah you are right, Stroker. And laso about the Friday restaurant. BTW I'm surprised people don't find the semi-pros in Ayala. Yesterday there were atleast 10-15 girls either promenading around the restaurant as well as a lot of them "waiting" on the stairs down to the garden.Just because a filipina is "waiting" as you call it doesn't mean they are looking for ST hookups. You have to understand that "malling" is a national past time in the Philippines and people just go to the mall as something to do. Make sure the filipina you approach and ask about ST are there actually working and not just sitting with filipina friends giggling and making fun of your sandals and socks routine.
I agree, there are filipinas who work the mall and are there to pickup foreigners. Most of the filipinas who work the mall are not worth the time but everyone has different tastes and my 5 might be your 9. I see the same filipinas on the hunt year after year and they have very high mileage. Some are former BG's who no longer work in the bars and a few that work the bars at night and the malls during the day. It's a cat and mouse game for sure.
Stroker Ace88
01-06-13, 20:35
Girls in Orchid was atleast 7-8's IMHO. I wouldn't less.Whatever YMMV, as always in the Philippines it's up to you.
Wicked Roger
01-06-13, 21:34
I agree, there are filipinas who work the mall and are there to pickup foreigners. Most of the filipinas who work the mall are not worth the time but everyone has different tastes and my 5 might be your 9. I see the same filipinas on the hunt year after year and they have very high mileage. Some are former BG's who no longer work in the bars and a few that work the bars at night and the malls during the day. It's a cat and mouse game for sure.
And some are LBs especially those around Watsons at night. Trust Iigorvich did not mean those as well LOL. Or maybe could not tell the difference
Just because a filipina is "waiting" as you call it doesn't mean they are looking for ST hookups. You have to understand that "malling" is a national past time in the Philippines and people just go to the mall as something to do. Make sure the filipina you approach and ask about ST are there actually working and not just sitting with filipina friends giggling and making fun of your sandals and socks routine.
I agree, there are filipinas who work the mall and are there to pickup foreigners. Most of the filipinas who work the mall are not worth the time but everyone has different tastes and my 5 might be your 9. I see the same filipinas on the hunt year after year and they have very high mileage. Some are former BG's who no longer work in the bars and a few that work the bars at night and the malls during the day. It's a cat and mouse game for sure.Stroker. I've been to The Phils- 9-10 times and I don't confuse normal girls with those who are freelancing. I've picked up from Friday's before. A good one acutally. Its easy to see who is waiting for company there. It's just like around Havana Cafe in Makati (or around Balcony Bar in Rio for that matter) give them a pass and see if they react and continue to try to get eye contact. And eventueally invite them to your table.
Stroker Ace88
01-07-13, 04:02
And some are LBs especially those around Watsons at night. Trust Iigorvich did not mean those as well LOL. Or maybe could not tell the differenceLOL, the LBs are around after dark and prowl from Gerry's Grill to Bo's coffee, that is until the guard comes to move them along. If you hear "pssstttttt youuuuu-hooooo" coming from the upper deck at Yellow Cab hold your honey-ko close and keep moving.
Just because a filipina is "waiting" as you call it doesn't mean they are looking for ST hookups. You have to understand that "malling" is a national past time in the Philippines and people just go to the mall as something to do. Make sure the filipina you approach and ask about ST are there actually working and not just sitting with filipina friends giggling and making fun of your sandals and socks routine.
I agree, there are filipinas who work the mall and are there to pickup foreigners. Most of the filipinas who work the mall are not worth the time but everyone has different tastes and my 5 might be your 9. I see the same filipinas on the hunt year after year and they have very high mileage. Some are former BG's who no longer work in the bars and a few that work the bars at night and the malls during the day. It's a cat and mouse game for sure.I agree, just cause girls are waiting doesn't mean they are waiting for some sex tourist. And yes, the freelancers in Ayala are usually of a poor standard. That guy needs to learn more before he shells out advice and info. When we first visit Phils the girls are 7's and 8's as he now perceives. Later on in his travels they will be 4's and 5's, yes.
Wicked Roger
01-09-13, 17:40
I agree, just cause girls are waiting doesn't mean they are waiting for some sex tourist. And yes, the freelancers in Ayala are usually of a poor standard. That guy needs to learn more before he shells out advice and info. When we first visit Phils the girls are 7's and 8's as he now perceives. Later on in his travels they will be 4's and 5's, yes.LOL.
Good point, been here 9+ times and knows it all. Like another on the Manila thread who is 26 and never pays, always has queues girtls for free etc, but we can't seem to understand why at 26 he uses V and C either. Odd that LOL.
Yet all forget as some of us wiser mongers know that the cuties are shy to ask and we should help.
SA. You seem all to knowing about what the LBs shout at you LOL (mind you FSlag would know more also LOL) and have you checked your PMs recently?
Stroker Ace88
01-10-13, 06:44
LOL.
Good point, been here 9+ times and knows it all. Like another on the Manila thread who is 26 and never pays, always has queues girtls for free etc, but we can't seem to understand why at 26 he uses V and C either. Odd that LOL.
Yet all forget as some of us wiser mongers know that the cuties are shy to ask and we should help.
SA. You seem all to knowing about what the LBs shout at you LOL (mind you FSlag would know more also LOL) and have you checked your PMs recently?WR,
Unfortunately yes. Before the holidays I was dining at Big Mao with a cutie and a group of LBs gathered at the railing. For the first time in my life I knew what a thai fishbowl girl feels like.
Ewwweeewwehhhheeeeeuuuuuu.
I think they were just eyeing my wheelchair, or my sheep-dogish hair piece but it still made me feel icky.
I cleaned out some room in the ol' inbox.
I just spent 3 weeks in the Phils and intended to write a chronological account of my Cebu / Manilla trip but I don't think it's the best idea now. So I will just try to summarise and give some specific experiences. Here I will cover Julianas disco and will mention Arena. Keep in mind when you read this, my observations are during the week prior to Christmas which is perhaps the crusiest week in the year, with lots of workers and students on holidays. About me, I am average looking 40 yr guy, who dresses neat.
The girlie bars typically close about 3 am, after that the logical place to go is the discos, which are one of the main reasons I like Cebu.
Julianas, is the main freelancer disco in Cebu. The clientele there is a mixture of Koreans, Caucasians, but mostly Pinoys.
If you go past early, say 9pm, you will see the freelancers already out side. I think they are just mostly street girls / ladyboys who can't afford the 100p to get in. But during the night the freelancers pay and enter as well. You can meet them inside, but as mentioned after my earlier post, it is easy to make a mistake. I would also observe girls, thinking they are good girls, then later see them being picked up by customers so mistakes are easy to make both ways.
Sometimes I sat outside as well, watching the freelancers steadily streaming out. I actually think this is a easier way to spot them because they tend to walk out very slowly making eye contact with us guys. Some are late night partying bar girls but many seem to be genuine part timers as well.
Regarding the quality of girls, it's a mixed bag so you will have to take your time.
During one night at Juliana at about 3 am I was sitting outside and observed two darlings walk outside with a gent. The girls suggested I join them. The American gent with them says its okay and in a short while he abandons them. Later I learnt he is a frequent visitor so maybe not as impressed with these girls as I was.
Both these girls looked stunning to me. One was small, petite, hair in a fancy bun and in a sequenced dress. The other was called Katherine and this was one of the most gorgeous working girl I would meet at Julianas, stunning and 24 yrs, just incredible.
During the next hour we drank outside and then danced at Alcoholgy.
Problem was neither of us were feeling completely well so we exchange numbers, make arrangements to meet the next day after lunch. I give her a generous 500p taxi fee and go home.
Next day, she doesn't show up when arranged. Later she would call, but gave me the fuck around with changing plans and we never end up meeting. Actually the whole experience stung, not for the 500p, but I wasted time for her. I think I learned first hand that truly stunning girls in the Phils probably know their value, have options and can fuck us around as much as we do them. Well that is my opinion from this experience.
On another nights, (believe it was the 23 Dec) I ended up drinking late at Julianas without a date but I wasn't too concerned. I should say that I am not a hardcore monger and sometimes enjoy mingling with random people with no sexual agenda.
I saw 3 girls sitting outside drinking Kamakazi from a jug. They were getting tanked, it looked fun and they allowed me to join. They did not look like working girls, and I wasn't interested anyway. Now a strange twist.
These girls say they are receptionist at Arena (the big girlie / karaoke bar).
One of them was flirting with me, she was attractive and big chested (but just not my type) and certainly did not look like an Arena working girl. This flirty girl then invited me to join her at her Christmas party the next day which was on Mactan Island. She had a hotel room, gave detail, number, time, etc. It was supposed to be a beach party.
At this stage I was getting fantasies of being Hugh Hefner for a day at the Arena Christmas beach party. Actually, back to reality I think it would have been mostly their bar / cleaning staff but I will never know because I didn't go.
Later this same night, I get the urge of taking home some company. All night I saw girls streaming out in pairs or 3's, sometimes unaccompanied. I decided to make an approach on a girl in a classy red dress called Susan. She seems interested and we make casual chit chat as we walk towards the taxis, but the situation changes into a complete circus.
Firstly, there are lots of touts, pimps, beggars watching like a hawk. When I approach Susan, it becomes obvious and some of them work they way in between us. One female pretends to be her pimp and suggest I pay her 5000p. Another guy is yapping 100miles an hour and seems to be playing the part of a pimp as well. Then the beggars were tugging on us 'Merry Christmas sir'. My girl gives a 'yelp' and we scramble into the taxi, took about 2 minutes because everyone was acting like I was father Christmas. I was able to kick all of them out except for one guy in the front seat who insisted I pay him a 'taxi find fee'. It took about 200 meters down the road before the taxi driver stops and we got him kicked out. My girl who was frantic earlier had now calmed down. It was one of the worst begger / tout situation I had experienced and looking back at it now, I can laugh. But at the time it was uncomfortable and could have resulted in me being pick pocketed (happened to me before so I am always wary).
Back in the hotel room, my girl tells me she is an occasional working girl from Arena! Turns out she also knew the receptionist I spoke with earlier, spilled some gossip on them but mostly what those girls told me was legit. Susan is a single mum and university student (she showed me her University card) .23, attractive, charming, very well spoken, smart, confident and lady like. This girl could be a lawyer one day, and lawyer jokes aside there was nothing 'working girl' about her, and sadly that also went for her bedroom skills as well.
As a side note, when I meet a girl like this I have to pinch myself. Bar girls and pretend high class are plentiful. But girls who are genuinely fine are real gold and this was just pot luck. Later when I go to Manila I find another uni student who is an 'all rounder' and I would see that one on 4 occasions.
BTW, for those that don't know about Arena. It's a large venue, has a cat walk like stage for dancers. It caters to Asian tastes with the 'line up'/Karaoke room setup. When I visited it, I was bored shitless. The girls seemed ordinary when they walk past, more cutesy than sexy. Maybe I was there on a bum night, or too early, but that's my experience there. When I visited I only had one drink and vowed to never go back.
Next I will write about my bar girl experiences, but I will post that under the ISG 'Cebu Bars' section and break it up into several posts.
Thanks for the good info kingswood, bargirl, part timer, studunt who can't suck a dick, back and forth we go. I go thru the same stuff. When you get my age you realize the only constant is I AM PAYING. So, my Ma was right all those years ago. You going to pay for it one way or another. Glad you had a good time and enjoyed the read
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During one night at Juliana at about 3 am I was sitting outside and observed two darlings walk outside with a gent. The girls suggested I join them. The American gent with them says its okay and in a short while he abandons them. Later I learnt he is a frequent visitor so maybe not as impressed with these girls as I was.
Both these girls looked stunning to me. One was small, petite, hair in a fancy bun and in a sequenced dress. The other was called Katherine and this was one of the most gorgeous working girl I would meet at Julianas, stunning and 24 yrs, just incredible.Nice report, hope you had a great trip.
To be honest the Phils is not a great place for sex in general if you ask me. The girls are not as "creative" and 'naughty as one will experience in say Brazil, eastern europe or Germany. I still go to the phils twice a year, but that is more down to the nice beaches, nice people and great prices. Mongering wise the german FKK's seems to be where its at at the moment.
Wicked Roger
01-21-13, 06:04
Nice report, hope you had a great trip.
To be honest the Phils is not a great place for sex in general if you ask me. The girls are not as "creative" and 'naughty as one will experience in say Brazil, eastern europe or Germany. I still go to the phils twice a year, but that is more down to the nice beaches, nice people and great prices. Mongering wise the german FKK's seems to be where its at at the moment.I disagree, pinays are very naughty and far better than CIS and PRC IMHO but then I have the patience to 'educate' them as some of the senior members here will agree. When they have been throiugh (patiently) WR university most are very naughty. Otherwise why would I see them again LOL.
You need patience which is what many monger to the Philippines don't have due to time constraints or other reasons
FreebieFan
01-28-13, 07:28
Nice report, hope you had a great trip.
To be honest the Phils is not a great place for sex in general if you ask me.Hmm whilst we all respect everyone elses opinions here. Cough cough splutter splutter your last statement is a mind boggler to me. 5-6 trips a year for past 8 years. More sex than I could handle in 5 lifetimes.
Wicked Roger
01-28-13, 17:48
Hmm whilst we all respect everyone elses opinions here. Cough cough splutter splutter your last statement is a mind boggler to me. 5-6 trips a year for past 8 years. More sex than I could handle in 5 lifetimes.I assume that last sentence was tounge in cheek FF given what yopu do to Makati when you arrive for a long weekend. I visit the same number of times and look at me. Rhetorical comment FF (and anyone else!) , you know you can handle it FF and if you can't call your naughty twin to help out LOL
FruitNinja
01-29-13, 00:03
I disagree, pinays are very naughty and far better than CIS and PRC IMHO but then I have the patience to 'educate' them as some of the senior members here will agree. When they have been throiugh (patiently) WR university most are very naughty. Otherwise why would I see them again LOL.
You need patience which is what many monger to the Philippines don't have due to time constraints or other reasonsJust got back from my first trip. The girls were very enjoyable and I will be back again. For the most part I found them very sexy, compliant, and willing to learn. I did have one DIA girl that rocked my world with very little work on my part. I've been craving Asian ever since my 2 year stint with a Chinese Sugar Baby. I didn't do enough DIA planning. I'll fix that.
I think what Iigorvich was trying to say is that FSU girls are sexier right out of the box. No assembly required. I've done both FSU P4P and dated a handful back in the states. Sometimes I think I'm actually in need of a real relationship. I know, I know, crazy thinking, right?
I dated a woman for Belarus. The first night at her place she came out of the bathroom crawling on her knees. First woman that actually begged me to fuck her in the a* without any prodding on my part. My young Romanian was so full of emotion, problem was she was that way in and out of bed otherwise I would have probably married her. Dodged a bullet.
At the end of the day there is very little pussy that I haven't enjoyed.
I met (at least) one of the WRUni grads. She didn't do the "WRU WRU WRU" cheer for me, but she did ask me if there was anything kinky or weird I was "into". Bless her heart. She didn't let it show, but I think she was a bit disappointed when I told her I had a run-of-the-mill lingerie / underwear fetish.
I disagree, pinays are very naughty and far better than CIS and PRC IMHO but then I have the patience to 'educate' them as some of the senior members here will agree. When they have been throiugh (patiently) WR university most are very naughty. Otherwise why would I see them again LOL.
You need patience which is what many monger to the Philippines don't have due to time constraints or other reasons
Wicked Roger
02-05-13, 21:50
I met (at least) one of the WRUni grads. She didn't do the "WRU WRU WRU" cheer for me, but she did ask me if there was anything kinky or weird I was "into". Bless her heart. She didn't let it show, but I think she was a bit disappointed when I told her I had a run-of-the-mill lingerie / underwear fetish.LOL Xman.
She was a tad disappointed but then she does have some very extensive education which is not run of the mill LOL. But I am back very soon to recommence lessons so she and others will be suitably kinky while I am there. Yummy.
Currently in Cebu and found Ayala Mall quite a fertile hunting ground. I have struck lucky there in each of my previous trips. FL's are out looking for business. Sure they are not as in your face as, say, Makati, but they can be found. My approach is to smile and say hello to any girl I fancy shagging, but to also keep walking by. Normal, respectable girls may just smile, but FL's will take the bait and follow me and initiate conversation. The rest, as they say, is history. What I have noticed is that prices have inflated over the past 3 years. Their opening gambit is 2000. 3000 but this can easily be negotiated to 1000. 1500 ST.
South by SW 2
02-07-13, 08:28
Just to resurrect the ST hotel discussion for a minute.
The ValleyFront website makes them look relatively legit. I didn't see any short time rates listed. They do advertise a PHP 550 special. I assume the 260 rate is available to walk-in customers.
Do they require an I'd from one or both people to check in?
It looks like a huge step up from the Roman Plaza in Davao where the same price gets you a room that you don't want to take your shoes off in, a towel thin enough to work as a veil in some Middle Eastern countries, and a condom for your new friend.
Cheers,
SbySW.
Anyway the name of the place is the ValleyFront, it seems to be as I said much nearer to Mango Square than the Queensland and the short time rate was 260. It is not only cheaper than the Queensland but it is in better condition and more convenient.
The full address is Happy Valley Road, corner of V. Rama Ave.
www.valleyfronthotel.com
Tel (+63-32) 255-9987
At the end of the day there is very little pussy that I haven't enjoyed.You should be grateful you don't have to fuck my wife.
Currently in Cebu and found Ayala Mall quite a fertile hunting ground. I have struck lucky there in each of my previous trips. FL's are out looking for business. Sure they are not as in your face as, say, Makati, but they can be found. My approach is to smile and say hello to any girl I fancy shagging, but to also keep walking by. Normal, respectable girls may just smile, but FL's will take the bait and follow me and initiate conversation. The rest, as they say, is history. What I have noticed is that prices have inflated over the past 3 years. Their opening gambit is 2000. 3000 but this can easily be negotiated to 1000. 1500 ST.Interesting info on the Ayala ST price info. I've been in cebu full-time for the past year, and though I'm at ayala all the time, I haven't taken any girls out of there (though I did get one number I didn't follow up on). I have my regular gf on the weekends, then pretty much can play all I want during the week. Personally, I avoid the P4P venues as for the money, I've had very few good experiences in cebu. For that manlia / angeles works much better for me.
What's been working for me has been meeting "regular" girls bumming around places like SM and Robinson's, and then of course DIA. I used to do straight up ST propositions, and that often worked fine but what I've found is many freelancers seem more comfortable if they are treated like a regular girl, even thought everyone involved knows exactly what game is being played. I have also found that I get better all around service if I tell them I don't have a gf (they always ask if there is a wife or gf in your life). I usually give some line about not wanting anything serious now, and leave it at that. After determining I want to fuck them and there seems to be some mutual interest, I ask her if I can take her somewhere we can be alone. When she says sure, to Queensland we go.
Usually what follows is good to great girlfriend sex. Now the money. I have found some of these girls will actually be offended if you give them too much money on the first "date". Depending on what I intuit about her, I may only give her some taxi money. Actual taxi money. P100 to P150 pesos. This is particularly true if she has a good job or her family seems relatively well off (as what she's told me about them, her situation, her clothes and accessories, etc). If I feel she is strictly working, I will give her P500 for the short time and P150 for taxi, so around P650 or so total.
Doing it this way, I have never had any girl complain about the money and I've found some great regulars who don't cost alot of money. When I was doing the up front ST propos, I found things cost more and the service was much more hit and miss and I less frequently found a good regular.
At first it seemed counter-intuitive to not get an up-front agreement on money and what she was willing to do, but for me this approach has worked best for me and I always now have more pussly on tap that my libido can handle.
Member #4351
02-08-13, 15:33
Riverman, you have just given hope to all the cheap charlie koripots on the forum. Probably (although it might not seem logical) , the fact that you actually live in Cebu makes things different for you viz a viz the usual P4P visitor. Having lived there for a year, you must speak some Visayan. Anyway, I have never been fortunate enough to meet a middle class girl who is happy with 150 pesos (in my humble experience I have found that Pinoy Pride has the girls saying things that aren't true (middle class) and accepting little money (150 pesos) , without mentioning that it is below their expectations. Since you told them you aren't looking for a GF, then the scenario of them happily accepting such a small amount in hopes of snagging someone LT would not be relevant. Then again, you might not be one of the old, fat, bald, and less than handsome (like me) average ISG members.
Riverman, you have just given hope to all the cheap charlie koripots on the forum. Probably (although it might not seem logical) , the fact that you actually live in Cebu makes things different for you viz a viz the usual P4P visitor. Having lived there for a year, you must speak some Visayan. Anyway, I have never been fortunate enough to meet a middle class girl who is happy with 150 pesos (in my humble experience I have found that Pinoy Pride has the girls saying things that aren't true (middle class) and accepting little money (150 pesos) , without mentioning that it is below their expectations. Since you told them you aren't looking for a GF, then the scenario of them happily accepting such a small amount in hopes of snagging someone LT would not be relevant. Then again, you might not be one of the old, fat, bald, and less than handsome (like me) average ISG members.Now that I've got my approach down, I'm sure it would work fine if I wasnt here full time. I do think, however, that ones own frame of mind comes into play. If you only have a week or two, then I can see it being stressfull taking a chance on a girl without getting that up from deal nailed down.
As regards "middle class" that is very relative. A girl who's family live in an actual house, albiet crumbling with a roof that leaks like a sieve, is in a much better situation than a family that lives in the cemetary or in a squatter slum / village. The real point is that, if you talk to them like a regular person, listen to what they have to say, smile at them, compliment them, show some empathy then many of these girls don't want to appear the working girl to you.
The standard of living that we would consider "middle class" here is solidly in the rich category. The hot rich girls here I always see with very handsome pinoy guys or ugly pinoy guys that are obviously from very wealthy families (yes, that young man is vastly obese, but that $10, 000 watch on his wrist sure is nice). These girls never even look at me.
By good job, I really mean ANY job. One girl I saw works as an assembler at an electrons company. She makes PHP 8, 000 per month. About $200 USD. Another is an agent in a call center making PHP 18, 000 per month. Both of these girls wouldn't even take taxi money the first time.
With this type of girl, if I feel she won't take anything on the second date, I will buy her something at Unisilver like a bracelet or neckless or something for P500 or P600. While I don't want to overpay, I don't want to be a total cheap charlie either.
Regarding looks, if the girl is willing to sit down with you and have a coke, or coffee, or jollibee or whatever, then you are good looking enouph for her. I just make sure that they know I'm not looking for a serious relationship before I get romantically charming, a little touchy feely (hand on her arm, touching her back, holding her hand, etc) , or see if she will go somewhere we can be alone. If she wants to keep hope maybe I will fall in love with in this process down the road, then that is her issue, I've given fair warning. I'm mid forties and rather fat. Perhaps my face is handsome, but I'm sure not winning anyone's stud contest.
If at any time a girl starts to scam me with sob stories or pumping me for large sums of piso or presents, I dump her forthwith. Once it starts it only gets worse. At that point, I go on the hunt for fresh action if I don't already have something in the back pocket.
David, I don't want to give you the impression that most of these girls I see won't take my money or that I don't give it. The majority of them need it and will take it. There are those girls, however, who its better to wait until the 2nd or 3rd "date" before you give them the full ST (for me thats P650 all-in) amount.
The important thing for the girl, is that in her mind she is not a prostitute. We didn't talk money up front, agree to any specific acts or any of that. We are friends. We are agreed that we will have an ongoing relationship and friendship. She has gifted me with sex. It is kind of me if I gift her with money later, but it is a kindness as we never stipulated that. Here they call this "special friends." She has given me something I need, and I have given her something she needs, without any specific demands. This is friendship no? This may be putting lipstick on the pig, but I'm I didn't create these girls psychology, I only take it as it comes.
Member #4351
02-08-13, 18:37
Like they say in LOS: "up to you". I still think that 650 is on the cheap charlie side. I have never given less than 1000 (around $25) , which seems to be in line with most of the forum posters. I could very well be overpaying, but after seeing how some of these girls live, I don't mind the extra $10. Then again, I don't live in Cebu and your situation is probably a lot different than mine. I just didn't want sporadic visitors to Cebu to get the idea that 650 is what should be given a girl who has performed well. Just MHO. Everyone has their own idea on what to give the girls. If you are comfortable giving 650 and haven't been labeled as a koripot and someone to avoid by the girls, then its working for you. Anyway, there are also guys who have posted that are so clueless, they think that just because the girls don't ask for money, that means that they shouldn't give them a peso.
Paul Kausch
02-08-13, 18:54
Now that I've got my approach down, I'm sure it would work fine if I wasnt here full time. I do think, however, that ones own frame of mind comes into play. If you only have a week or two, then I can see it being stressfull taking a chance on a girl without getting that up from deal nailed down.
As regards "middle class" that is very relative. A girl who's family live in an actual house, albiet crumbling with a roof that leaks like a sieve, is in a much better situation than a family that lives in the cemetary or in a squatter slum / village. The real point is that, if you talk to them like a regular person, listen to what they have to say, smile at them, compliment them, show some empathy then many of these girls don't want to appear the working girl to you.
The standard of living that we would consider "middle class" here is solidly in the rich category. The hot rich girls here I always see with very handsome pinoy guys or ugly pinoy guys that are obviously from very wealthy families (yes, that young man is vastly obese, but that $10, 000 watch on his wrist sure is nice). These girls never even look at me.
By good job, I really mean ANY job. One girl I saw works as an assembler at an electrons company. She makes PHP 8, 000 per month. About $200 USD. Another is an agent in a call center making PHP 18, 000 per month. Both of these girls wouldn't even take taxi money the first time.
With this type of girl, if I feel she won't take anything on the second date, I will buy her something at Unisilver like a bracelet or neckless or something for P500 or P600. While I don't want to overpay, I don't want to be a total cheap charlie either.
Regarding looks, if the girl is willing to sit down with you and have a coke, or coffee, or jollibee or whatever, then you are good looking enouph for her. I just make sure that they know I'm not looking for a serious relationship before I get romantically charming, a little touchy feely (hand on her arm, touching her back, holding her hand, etc) , or see if she will go somewhere we can be alone. If she wants to keep hope maybe I will fall in love with in this process down the road, then that is her issue, I've given fair warning. I'm mid forties and rather fat. Perhaps my face is handsome, but I'm sure not winning anyone's stud contest.
If at any time a girl starts to scam me with sob stories or pumping me for large sums of piso or presents, I dump her forthwith. Once it starts it only gets worse. At that point, I go on the hunt for fresh action if I don't already have something in the back pocket.
David, I don't want to give you the impression that most of these girls I see won't take my money or that I don't give it. The majority of them need it and will take it. There are those girls, however, who its better to wait until the 2nd or 3rd "date" before you give them the full ST (for me thats P650 all-in) amount.
The important thing for the girl, is that in her mind she is not a prostitute. We didn't talk money up front, agree to any specific acts or any of that. We are friends. We are agreed that we will have an ongoing relationship and friendship. She has gifted me with sex. It is kind of me if I gift her with money later, but it is a kindness as we never stipulated that. Here they call this "special friends." She has given me something I need, and I have given her something she needs, without any specific demands. This is friendship no? This may be putting lipstick on the pig, but I'm I didn't create these girls psychology, I only take it as it comes.If the Philippines section had Reports of Distinction, I would nominate this and Riverman's immediately preceding post!
Questor 55
02-08-13, 20:04
Riverman's recent post is one of the most well reasoned, forthright and honest opinions seen here in sometime. Regarding renumeration for services, he is spot on. So many guys here completely lack financial perspective. If one pays say, $100, for ST in US, that's equivalent to about one day's income. Here in Philippines, one day's income is about 300 pesos. So. 650 P is equal to two days wages. Two days wages for two hours company, is taking advantage? Hardly! Riverman, keep your posts coming. You have valuable insights.
Thanks, mate.
Punter 127
02-09-13, 03:09
If the Philippines section had Reports of Distinction, I would nominate this and Riverman's immediately preceding post!The Philippine thread has Reports of Distinction, do you think we need a "Reports of Distinction" thread just for Cebu? I kind of like the idea.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2023-Links-to-Reports-of-Distinction
Paul Kausch
02-09-13, 04:06
The Philippine thread has Reports of Distinction, do you think we need a "Reports of Distinction" thread just for Cebu? I kind of like the idea.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2023-Links-to-Reports-of-DistinctionHmm, good question. On the one hand this report is generally applicable to the Philippines, not just Cebu, but on the other hand it's just one more thread, and on the other hand (how many hands does that make? Three. Hmm) well on the other hand that makes another perhaps unnecessary thread. What do other member's think. Do you agree the report is worthy of this most noble award?
The past few days I was bar hopping in Mango Ave. With my friend and went through pretty much all the bars.
Overall the quality didn't seem to be very good in most of the bars and I found Papillion to be the best one this time with the face value and friendliness of the girls.
Picked up a nice 22 years old girl who was quite inexperienced since her first time was just 7 months ago, but since she was absolutely a sweetheart (kind of like a girl you want as a girlfriend) it didn't matter, always looking after me whatever I will do or need. She's an awesome girl and will stay on my phone list for long time. She didn't have any rush to leave and we were together until 10AM. My friend also found a nice 5" girl who actually was with him until 6PM on the next day (eating, malling etc.).
On the second day we went through other bars that we missed on a night before, and this time I wanted to pick someone totally different.
If you have been to Dimples recently, you know their 'leading star' entertainer dancer (white skin, wearing black leather boots and different outfit from others) , when she dances everybody will vanish from the stage, a total 'bad' girl. I bought her some drinks earlier and she's really funny actually although she said that guys are afraid of her which I believe since she's a total pro and looks tight. She also said that she doesn't usually go out with customers since she is very very picky, if she doesn't like the guy there is no amount she will go. Well anyway she was totally wild in bed, but when talking later she's not so rough and tough, it's just an act which she sometimes forgets when your actually having a private conversation with her. And just a side note, Papillion and Dimples are under the same owner, so this girl was also dancing once in Papillion on the previous night since somebody requested. She even asked me how was my girl from Papillion last night LOL.
Well anyway, my time here is done for now.
But for work reasons I will be here 2-3 times a month, so I will definitely report here often.
Member #4351
02-10-13, 20:21
Riverman's recent post is one of the most well reasoned, forthright and honest opinions seen here in sometime. Regarding renumeration for services, he is spot on. So many guys here completely lack financial perspective. If one pays say, $100, for ST in US, that's equivalent to about one day's income. Here in Philippines, one day's income is about 300 pesos. So. 650 P is equal to two days wages. Two days wages for two hours company, is taking advantage? Hardly! Riverman, keep your posts coming. You have valuable insights.
Thanks, mate.As I mentioned, the cheap charlies are going to love Riverman's posts because it gives them an excuse to keep on being cheap charlies. I think that paying 650 will work fine when one is in a 'take it or leave it' situation, when nothing has been agreed upon in advance. At the end of the time spent together, the girl in order not to lose face, won't say 'what a cheap Charlie Asshole (although that's what she is probably thinking) ', she'll just smile and take the 650. The question is, how far will you get say in Mango Square offering 650 pesos? You will go home alone.
Wages are depressed due to oversupply of labor and undersupply of jobs. So trying to excuse being a cheapskate by comparing 650 to what a shop girl earns isn't logical. The forum's resident economists might want to compare wages with what it costs to survive in Cebu. What does the Big Mac index show for example?
As I mentioned, the cheap charlies are going to love Riverman's posts because it gives them an excuse to keep on being cheap charlies. I think that paying 650 will work fine when one is in a 'take it or leave it' situation, when nothing has been agreed upon in advance. At the end of the time spent together, the girl in order not to lose face, won't say 'what a cheap Charlie Asshole (although that's what she is probably thinking) ', she'll just smile and take the 650. The question is, how far will you get say in Mango Square offering 650 pesos? You will go home alone.
Wages are depressed due to oversupply of labor and undersupply of jobs. So trying to excuse being a cheapskate by comparing 650 to what a shop girl earns isn't logical. The forum's resident economists might want to compare wages with what it costs to survive in Cebu. What does the Big Mac index show for example?Actually comparing 650 to what a girl can make in 2 or three days of 12 hour a day labor is very fair. The Big Mac Index, however, is not fair. A Big Mac is a luxury; one does not need a Big Mac to survive. A more apt index would be the Rice Index. PHP 650 will buy alot of rice. And as most of my girls are very happy to see me again and again, that 650 is multiplied many times over. Not to mention the fact, if the girl is very good and sweet to me and never tries to scam me or give me undue drama (beyond what is normal the female of the species) , I am not unwilling to help them as legitimate needs arise.
Another unfair comparison is the mango thing. I never gave my approach as being appropriate to mango. When dealing with a more mercenary and experienced prostitute, of course they are going for maximum return on their assests. And another factor is time. If you don't have time to hunt, then paying extra for the convenience of an assured score is understandable.
I do find your vaguely negative and condensending attitude a bit strange. I guess there are better-than-thou petty moralists in every bunch. Even a bunch of working girl mongers.
Hmm, good question. On the one hand this report is generally applicable to the Philippines, not just Cebu, but on the other hand it's just one more thread, and on the other hand (how many hands does that make? Three. Hmm) well on the other hand that makes another perhaps unnecessary thread. What do other member's think. Do you agree the report is worthy of this most noble award?Yet another new thread, hell no. Have a look at all the empty new threads we have got already.
Member #4351
02-12-13, 15:43
Even a bunch of working girl mongers.Well sorry, but that is what is mostly on this forum. And if these guys don't know any better, listen to you and start offering 650 pesos to the girls they meet in the normal P4P locations, they will get shot down quickly. In my opinion, paying a girl 650 is being a cheap charlie. The guys I know who both live and visit Cebu, are paying around what I do (1000 or $25) or more. Of course this could be a function of the fact that I don't like to hang around with cheapskates, who knows? Many girls have complained to me about guys they have met online or wherever who only gave them chump change (around 500) or didn't even pay for their taxi. I will certainly keep paying what for me is a normal and reasonable amount. You can keep being a kuripot.
Well sorry, but that is what is mostly on this forum. And if these guys don't know any better, listen to you and start offering 650 pesos to the girls they meet in the normal P4P locations, they will get shot down quickly. In my opinion, paying a girl 650 is being a cheap charlie. The guys I know who both live and visit Cebu, are paying around what I do (1000 or $25) or more. Of course this could be a function of the fact that I don't like to hang around with cheapskates, who knows? Many girls have complained to me about guys they have met online or wherever who only gave them chump change (around 500) or didn't even pay for their taxi. I will certainly keep paying what for me is a normal and reasonable amount. You can keep being a kuripot.Your welcome to your opinion, but its not the only one.
And I guess your a rather dim bulb as I never offered this approach as being suitable for normal P4P locations (quite the opposite) , but you keep carping as if I did.
For those lacking in time or inclination to do as I described, by all means, paying P1 or P1. 5K for ST action is both reasonable and appropriate.
However, there are girls who are not regular denziens of those locals, who are nice and attractive and who are willing and satisfied with less. Your inane carping and arrogance do not change this fact.
FruitNinja
02-13-13, 11:16
You should be grateful you don't have to fuck my wife.Just kidding but that was a pretty good reply.
Member #4351
02-13-13, 15:49
For those lacking in time or inclination to do as I described.
You didn´t describe anything, you bragged about underpaying naive girls that you have been able to pick up in malls. Mall hunting has been written about dozens of times on the forum. You said nothing new, and IMHO nothing worthwhile. I would rate it up there with your brilliant idea of having a girl fork out for a passport in order to check her age.
Your inane carping and arrogance do not change this fact.
Cheap Charlies are always defensive.
Punter 127
02-14-13, 03:43
I give girls that I meet in the mall (including those that work there) and girls from DIA 500p after a short visit if it includes sex, and I always pay for their Jeepney ride back to the mall. Most of these girls are not really working girls and some won't have sex on the first visit. When they do have sex many of them get very upset when you try to give them money as they don't want to be considered a hooker. So I make up a reason for giving them money, and they're normally very eager for a return visit.
Girls that ask in advance 'what's in it for me' or set a price I avoid, because there are so many normal willing girls available here. I suspect there are more guys that live in Cebu who give 500p to this type of girl than there is who give them 1000k plus. Many of the guys that visit here have a what the hell it's only $10 and I'm on vacation attitude. For others I think overpaying is a way of dealing with compunction.
I don't think 500k is out of line, after all there are bars in AC that you can pull a girl for short time for 700p and that includes bar fine, so how for off the norm could 500p be? If a girl is looking for money in exchange for sex then she should set her price before hand or accept what's offered. IMHO
The DIA girls that want to come over to your hotel are looking to get paid right?
Whenever I suggest meeting at a mall they say "no, only at your hotel"
I have become paranoid about scams after reading through the "Avoiding Freelancer Scams and Extortions" threads, so I try to meet them on neutral territory first.
Member #4351
02-14-13, 19:41
The DIA girls that want to come over to your hotel are looking to get paid right?Tell them you have their 650 pesos waiting for them and let us know what happens.
Member #4351
02-14-13, 19:43
after all there are bars in AC that you can pull a girl for short time for 700p and that includes bar fine, so how for off the norm could 500p be?What does that have to do with Cebu? Which bar in Cebu costs 700p for ST?
Punter 127
02-16-13, 02:06
What does that have to do with Cebu? Which bar in Cebu costs 700p for ST?I only mentioned AC as an example of Filipina's offering FS for 500p or less (after the bars cut) also I think the AC cost of living is similar, and both places are after all in the Philippines.
I rarely go to bars in Cebu because I think they're overpriced, perhaps because of the willingness of visitors to overpay. Also because of the availability of what I consider to be a much higher caliber of girl. I can however tell you that I've been offered sex on the streets of Cebu for as low as 300p.
In retrospect I probably shouldn't have mentioned bars at all as my post was really about internet and mall girls that are not p4p, sorry.
I do have a bit of good news, I've been told that most girls will let you give them more if it makes you feel better. 'Up to you' as they say here, a simple little saying that I wish others would embrace.
I might at times explain to someone that I think they overpaid, not to criticize but as an attempt to educate, but at the end of the day what another guy pays is really no skin off my nose.
What I don't understand is why when you think a guy has underpaid you react as if someone had poked you in the eye with a stick. What's up with that?
I do have a bit of good news, I've been told that most girls will let you give them more if it makes you feel better. 'Up to you' as they say here, a simple little saying that I wish others would embrace.There is a very useful book available from National Book Store called "Understanding Filipino Values, a Management Approach, by Tomas D. Andres.
He says the following and I think we all should take note of it.
'Foreigners have frequently pointed out that equivocation, 'white lies', and euphemistic discourse to avoid unpleasant truths are characteristically Filipino, making an attempt to not embarrass or displease other persons. The Filipino anticipates and gives the expected answer, avoiding if possible a negative reply.
Hence, a question by a person seeking a positive answer concerning for example the quantity of payment for services rendered will invariably be answered with 'It's up to you. ' '
Punter 127
02-16-13, 07:33
There is a very useful book available from National Book Store called "Understanding Filipino Values, a Management Approach, by Tomas D. Andres.
He says the following and I think we all should take note of it.
'Foreigners have frequently pointed out that equivocation, 'white lies', and euphemistic discourse to avoid unpleasant truths are characteristically Filipino, making an attempt to not embarrass or displease other persons. The Filipino anticipates and gives the expected answer, avoiding if possible a negative reply.
Hence, a question by a person seeking a positive answer concerning for example the quantity of payment for services rendered will invariably be answered with 'It's up to you. ' 'Very interesting and I'm sure the book is a very insightful analysis.
In this case I was suggesting (or hoping) the words of the Filipino saying be literally embraced by members of this forum.
Thanks for your input.
Stroker Ace88
02-17-13, 10:20
Like they say in LOS: "up to you". I still think that 650 is on the cheap charlie side. I have never given less than 1000 (around $25) , which seems to be in line with most of the forum posters. I could very well be overpaying, but after seeing how some of these girls live, I don't mind the extra $10. Then again, I don't live in Cebu and your situation is probably a lot different than mine. I just didn't want sporadic visitors to Cebu to get the idea that 650 is what should be given a girl who has performed well. Just MHO. Everyone has their own idea on what to give the girls. If you are comfortable giving 650 and haven't been labeled as a koripot and someone to avoid by the girls, then its working for you. Anyway, there are also guys who have posted that are so clueless, they think that just because the girls don't ask for money, that means that they shouldn't give them a peso.IMO, David's post is more POD worthy. He pays the going rate for non-pro sessions and paying less is kuripot style. I agree 100 percent with the comment on guys who think because a girl doesn't ask for money the time spent together was a 'freebie' or she doesn't want money. Newbies should take note of the advice posted by D33, but many don't.
Just a little tidbit of info on this subject. I attended a family function along with a filipina back in 2010. I was her guest at the function and I met one of her cousins. Turns out the cousin was also into dating foreigners and asked me to hook her up with some of my friends. She talked my ear off and told me some stories of the foreign guys she dated-dates and showed me pics on her iphone. She mentioned she has a daughter and also mentioned her husband. At this point I stopped her because I was confused why she was dating foreigners if she was already married. Turns out she broke up with her Filipino husband shortly after the birth of her daughter and then her husband was arrested and is now serving time.
Anyways it seems she is paying for her education through dating foreigners she meets online. She told me stories of guys who promise to take good care of her blah blah blah and then after the session refuse to pay up or give her what she feels is enough. She told me she dated a guy from California who was rich and was very gwapo but never paid her anything. She told me her child can't eat love and the Uni doesn't accept good will. Only cash will do. She decided to fix him. So during one session suddenly there was loud knocking at the hotel room door and then the door opened. Standing in the door was the hotel manager and two PNP officers. Turns out she also has a cousin who is a PNP officer and they burst into the hotel claiming to be her husbands family members. They took the guy to the station on fuente and when all was said and done the guy paid 50 000php to walk from the potential charge of adultery, which is a real and punishable offense in the Philippines The guy paid up BIG TIME for his kuripot style. The girl took her cut while her PNP cousin and his PNP friends took the rest.
When she told me the story it made me sit up and take notice. Later at the same function I was introduced to her PNP cousin and he seemed like a nice enough bloke but in the end it all comes down to money and how you treat people. I asked her how much she expected and the answer was,"atleast a blue note di ba but I'm no a GRO, I like blue note to go with imported blue eyes!".
Later in the taxi I asked my filipina about her cousin. She told me her cousin dates lots of foreigners and likes to have fun. She goes with guys that pay her and that her cousin has 'fixed' a few of the foreigners who refused to pay. One guy was a banker from Singapore and took her cousin to Boracay and considered the trip as payment. When he came back a few months later to visit the cousin he was served his blue note special.
Stroker Ace88
02-17-13, 10:38
Now that I've got my approach down, I'm sure it would work fine if I wasnt here full time. I do think, however, that ones own frame of mind comes into play. If you only have a week or two, then I can see it being stressfull taking a chance on a girl without getting that up from deal nailed down.
As regards "middle class" that is very relative. A girl who's family live in an actual house, albiet crumbling with a roof that leaks like a sieve, is in a much better situation than a family that lives in the cemetary or in a squatter slum / village. The real point is that, if you talk to them like a regular person, listen to what they have to say, smile at them, compliment them, show some empathy then many of these girls don't want to appear the working girl to you.
The standard of living that we would consider "middle class" here is solidly in the rich category. The hot rich girls here I always see with very handsome pinoy guys or ugly pinoy guys that are obviously from very wealthy families (yes, that young man is vastly obese, but that $10, 000 watch on his wrist sure is nice). These girls never even look at me. By good job, I really mean ANY job. One girl I saw works as an assembler at an electrons company. She makes PHP 8, 000 per month. About $200 USD. Another is an agent in a call center making PHP 18, 000 per month. Both of these girls wouldn't even take taxi money the first time.
With this type of girl, if I feel she won't take anything on the second date, I will buy her something at Unisilver like a bracelet or neckless or something for P500 or P600. While I don't want to overpay, I don't want to be a total cheap charlie either.
Regarding looks, if the girl is willing to sit down with you and have a coke, or coffee, or jollibee or whatever, then you are good looking enouph for her. I just make sure that they know I'm not looking for a serious relationship before I get romantically charming, a little touchy feely (hand on her arm, touching her back, holding her hand, etc) , or see if she will go somewhere we can be alone. If she wants to keep hope maybe I will fall in love with in this process down the road, then that is her issue, I've given fair warning. I'm mid forties and rather fat. Perhaps my face is handsome, but I'm sure not winning anyone's stud contest.
If at any time a girl starts to scam me with sob stories or pumping me for large sums of piso or presents, I dump her forthwith. Once it starts it only gets worse. At that point, I go on the hunt for fresh action if I don't already have something in the back pocket.
David, I don't want to give you the impression that most of these girls I see won't take my money or that I don't give it. The majority of them need it and will take it. There are those girls, however, who its better to wait until the 2nd or 3rd "date" before you give them the full ST (for me thats P650 all-in) amount.
The important thing for the girl, is that in her mind she is not a prostitute. We didn't talk money up front, agree to any specific acts or any of that. We are friends. We are agreed that we will have an ongoing relationship and friendship. She has gifted me with sex. It is kind of me if I gift her with money later, but it is a kindness as we never stipulated that. Here they call this "special friends." She has given me something I need, and I have given her something she needs, without any specific demands. This is friendship no? This may be putting lipstick on the pig, but I'm I didn't create these girls psychology, I only take it as it comes.Riverman,
I think you are playing a risky game. Paying taxi money to filipinas only gets you so far. I also think buying jewelry for filipinas in-lieu of a bigger monetary payment, is directing these filipinas down a road that they reasonably believe leads to a serious relationship and marriage. No matter how many times you tell a filipina you don't want a serious relationship, your actions (jewelry and telling them they are beautiful and other compliments) keeps the dream alive for them.
Paying 1000php for a ST session with a filipina sends a message that you will treat them right and she will realize it's jerjer you're after. No matter how strongly the filipina objects to taking the money, in the end she will accept it. It sends a message you are not looking for a serious relationship. Sometimes when a filipina accepts the money she also accepts the fact you do not view her as a potential GF-Asawa and that's often harder for a filipina to get over.
In the end it's your life and your call.
Stroker Ace88
02-17-13, 10:51
Yet another new thread, hell no. Have a look at all the empty new threads we have got already.I agree with Sxxxx, no need for another thread. The Philippines ROD thread covers all Philippine threads and that includes the Cebu sub-section.
Riverman,
I think you are playing a risky game. Paying taxi money to filipinas only gets you so far. I also think buying jewelry for filipinas in-lieu of a bigger monetary payment, is directing these filipinas down a road that they reasonably believe leads to a serious relationship and marriage. No matter how many times you tell a filipina you don't want a serious relationship, your actions (jewelry and telling them they are beautiful and other compliments) keeps the dream alive for them.
Paying 1000php for a ST session with a filipina sends a message that you will treat them right and she will realize it's jerjer you're after. No matter how strongly the filipina objects to taking the money, in the end she will accept it. It sends a message you are not looking for a serious relationship. Sometimes when a filipina accepts the money she also accepts the fact you do not view her as a potential GF-Asawa and that's often harder for a filipina to get over.I have to agree with Stroker here on every point.
Even cheap trinkets send the wrong message, and when the "romantic thrill" of getting jewellery wears off then she cannot pawn the bling bling when she needs cash for food or other necessities. Small items of clothing are less "romantic" and may give her a bigger thrill.
It's cash all the way with these girls. And I agree with David33: a blue note is the minimum for a FL or even an everyday housewife woman just having some fun. Anything less is kuripot.
As stated elsewhere. 1500 is my minimum, and I am not swayed by anybody's arguments one way or the other. I'd rather give her 1500 to spend as she wishes than traipse along to a store and buy her jeans and other stuff. I never do that.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1387597]Small items of clothing are less "romantic" and may give her a bigger thrill.
I always give my dates 1 or 2K and if I want to see her again she gets a sexy brassiere. I carry a small bag of 34 and 36 C and D Cups on my travels and play Prince Charming to see if it fits. They love it and it is nice prelude to photos and lovemaking (. V.)
Pip Jaeger
02-18-13, 00:38
IMO, David's post is more POD worthy. He pays the going rate for non-pro sessions and paying less is kuripot style. I agree 100 percent with the comment on guys who think because a girl doesn't ask for money the time spent together was a 'freebie' or she doesn't want money. Newbies should take note of the advice posted by D33, but many don't.
She decided to fix him. So during one session suddenly there was loud knocking at the hotel room door and then the door opened. Standing in the door was the hotel manager and two PNP officers. Turns out she also has a cousin who is a PNP officer and they burst into the hotel claiming to be her husbands family members. They took the guy to the station on fuente and when all was said and done the guy paid 50 000php to walk from the potential charge of adultery, which is a real and punishable offense in the Philippines The guy paid up BIG TIME for his kuripot style. The girl took her cut while her PNP cousin and his PNP friends took the rest.
When she told me the story it made me sit up and take notice.We should all take notice of this and I too agree with David. With the exception of ST dorm girls who will go with you 700php (500 to the girl and 200 to the papasan) I always donate at least a blue note plus transport and usually a meal and / or some chocalate as well.
For what it's worth, IMHO I think the true test is whether or not the girl wants to see you again and, perhaps more importantly, if she's willing to introduce you to her gf's / cousins / etc. Treat them well and you will be rewarded 10 fold. Perhaps some of you will recall the corny old 80's Faberge Organics Shampoo TV ad that went something like "if you tell two friends, they'll tell two friends" and so on, and so on. I firmly believe that the same applies here to the girls, take good care of them and before you know it you'll have a contact list packed with names of reliable girls; your own harem if you will.
I'll second that. I'll go to the mall for a meal or if I need something, but taking the girl shopping is a royal pain. The last time I did it was for a swimsuit, but then she was so shy that I never got to see what she looked like in it. Later in the room I found out the reason why. No tits. LOL.
As for monetary "donations", I'll offer 1000 if I am less than 100% satisfied. If I get my way, and I get some photos, I'll offer 1500 or more.
SNIP.
As stated elsewhere. 1500 is my minimum, and I am not swayed by anybody's arguments one way or the other. I'd rather give her 1500 to spend as she wishes than traipse along to a store and buy her jeans and other stuff. I never do that.
Wicked Roger
02-18-13, 18:06
For what it's worth, IMHO I think the true test is whether or not the girl wants to see you again and, perhaps more importantly, if she's willing to introduce you to her gf's / cousins / etc. Treat them well and you will be rewarded 10 fold.
I firmly believe that the same applies here to the girls, take good care of them and before you know it you'll have a contact list packed with names of reliable girls; your own harem if you will.Well said Pip
I do this and I have lots of fun as I can always ask them to bring a cute frined I see on their facebook page for example LOL.
My contacts are college girls who I then provide additional teaching on more 'interesting' subjects. As I said to Red Kilt am an educator who as yet remains unrecognised for his contribution to pinay education
Pete Benetar
02-18-13, 18:56
As I said to Red Kilt am an educator who as yet remains unrecognised for his contribution to pinay education LOL, if it helps WR, scores of us on ISG reading your reports and equally effective pics fully recognize your accomplishments in pinay (let alone mongerer) education.
Chocha Monger
02-18-13, 19:50
Paying more money is not going to protect anyone from Filipinas who target foreigners for adultery scams. If anything, handing over more cash will only convince this type that the 'rich' foreigner is ripe for a scam carried out by her policeman cousin and his henchmen. The tricycle drivers banging this girl bareback are certainly not giving her blue notes for wearing her holes out. The fact that she doesn't consider herself a prostitute, and con artist, shows that she is hardened criminal. Most likely she worked at this scam together with her husband before he landed his tenure in jail.
Unfortunately, as undercover mongers and prostitutes increasingly use dating sites to conduct business, more misunderstandings and scams are likely to happen. One cannot assume that every foreign man on a dating site is a monger looking for cheap or 'free' sex. It can also be said that not all the women on the sites are necessarily freelance prostitutes. Therefore, when there is a situation where an undercover hooker trolls for foreigners and engages in sex without revealing her status or the price of her services there is bound to be some fallout when she suddenly demands payment after the guy drops his load. It is entirely possible that some of these guys thought that they were dealing with a normal situation where an all expenses paid trip to a vacation resort would be considered generous by their female companion.
The irony is that these scams are more likely to snare non-mongers. Mongers tend to shy away from mothers. They shun sagging mammary glands, birthed vaginas, and stretch marked bellies. Seasoned hobbyists are also unlikely to meet a Filipina on her terms in her territory for obvious reasons.
South by SW 2
02-19-13, 05:15
I have to agree with Stroker here on every point. Even cheap trinkets send the wrong messageI learned that lesson the hard way. I had a regular in Davao for several trips. I was completely clear that there was no possibility of a long term relationship or marriage, but of course they hope in their heart of hearts. Obviously, seeing her on multiple trips and staying in contact in between made it a de facto LTR.
The other mistakes I made were buying her a pair of earrings after she lost one on a day trip and taking her out to dinner with another ISG member and his GF. Those might not have been as big a deal if I had done it when we first met, but the fact it was my third trip gave it a lot more weight in her eyes.
After that, it was clear she was hooked even though she tried not to show it. It would take a meaner SOB than me to keep that game going. I told her before I left that we couldn't be together and while I was away I told her that I was planning to get engaged. That was the end of it.
That's also why I don't like to be on the dating sites too far in advance of trip. The time you have to invest in keeping them warm let's them build romantic fantasies. Next thing you know they are trying to show you how loveable their kids are. I had to delay one of my trips by a month and paid the price. In retrospect, I should have just dropped out of sight for a few weeks and taken my chances on being able to sweet talk them afterward.
The other reason not to be online too early is they run out of things to say pretty damn fast.
SbySW
I stay in cebu 6 months a year. Since November 26, I have had sex with 37 first time girls. Out of the 37 new girls I was with. 32 of them have never been with a foreigner. The last new girl I met had been with a foreigner. He was a Japanese she met on the internet who took her virginity. The reason that the Philippines is a paradise for foreigners is that it is extremely hard to earn money here. The money you give to a girl usually goes to the family for basic needs, which includes food. Some of my girls are students who need tuition money.
I give the girl 1, 000 p. Short time which includes 2 rounds and is usually around 2-3 hours. If she stays overnight I give her 2, 000 p. In addition I give her 100 p. For transportation. Some of the girls take a jeep when they leave to save money, others do take a taxi. If she decides to bolt after 1 round; it has happened twice, I give her 500 plus the 100 for transportation.
Out of the 37 new girls I have had this trip, I have 10 who I repeat on a regular basis. These are the girls who I enjoy best. This does not include my 2 regular girlfriends who I don't pay for sex but I do help out with their various needs on request. I usually get between 3-6 requests for girls on a daily basis. Many of the girls I meet are the friends, sisters or cousins of the girls I have had sex with.
FreebieFan
02-19-13, 10:18
\It's cash all the way with these girls. And I agree with David33: a blue note is the minimum for a FL or even an everyday housewife woman just having some fun. Anything less is kuripot.
As stated elsewhere. 1500 is my minimum, and I am not swayed by anybody's arguments one way or the other. I'd rather give her 1500 to spend as she wishes than traipse along to a store and buy her jeans and other stuff. I never do that.I always gave p1000 to all my girls regardless working or not. Plus also gave sexy bra and panties or chocolate or cheap perfume or high heels or shorty shorts or cell phone load whatever whatever. All were happy to pose and every single girl was happy to come back for repeats.
Chocha Monger
02-21-13, 02:58
Cheap Charlies are always defensive.Not always!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lgXHTKjN28
First and foremost thanks guys for all the great advice here in the Philippines sub-forum on ISG. It has been really helpful for my trip so far. Now that I am staying in Cebu City though. And although I have read a lot of the threads here from A to Z and made a shortlist of all the places to check out. The situation on the ground seems to be somewhat different from the posts in the forum.
Some observations from the last couple of days:
- The bars along Mango Avenue as well as Mavericks on Osmena Circle and Lone Star behind Mango Avenue are very quiet with usually only 1-2 girls dancing, girls look bored and a lot of them aren't attractive at all. They are also very scared about undercover guys and raids so you can only barfine if the girl tells the manager that she already knows you.
- Online dating on DIA is increadibly slow, the girls sometimes need 1-2 days to answer and I don't see much progress there. Sometimes they basically just repeat what they already said. Difficult to get a conversation going and subtle remarks about how they make their living and what they expect on DIA are usually overlooked. And since a lot of them write on their profile that they are looking for a relationship just asking them if they want to drop by for some additional pesos seems to be the wrong approach.
- I have visited the malls like Ayala Center and Robinson Mall as well (SM Mall tomorrow). In Ayala Center 5-7pm on a weekday there are a lot of normal people shopping so it is hard to figure out who is working. The only women that fit the description were sitting on the ground floor of the Terraces but those women were all 30-ish and very plain looking.
I am just 28, kind of good looking, fit and I dress well. So either I am doing something completely wrong here in Cebu (had no problems at all in places like Manila and, of course, Angeles) or the girls here a focused on old guys?
Maybe you have an answer for that or these questions:
- Which bar on Mango Avenue is the top location at the moment? I know this isn't Angeles but there has to be at least one place that is not almost dead, right?
- Any recommendations for online dating with girls in the city? Alternatives to DIA?
- Are there specific places in Ayala Center and other malls to look for working girls? I have heard of Bo's cafe so far, but Ayala is a huge place.
Thank you!
South by SW 2
02-22-13, 16:04
- Online dating on DIA is incredibly slow, the girls sometimes need 1-2 days to answer and I don't see much progress there. Sometimes they basically just repeat what they already said. Difficult to get a conversation going and subtle remarks about how they make their living and what they expect on DIA are usually overlooked. And since a lot of them write on their profile that they are looking for a relationship just asking them if they want to drop by for some additional pesos seems to be the wrong approach.I can't speak to the questions about the conditions on the ground in Cebu. I'm not arriving until next week. But for the online dating, you're right, it is slow. Usually you do that a couple of weeks in advance to line up prospects. I've used DIA, Cherry Blossoms, and Filipino Cupid. When I was visiting regularly I'd rotate between them. DIA has better quality girls, I think, but they are more focused on relationships and marriage.
The way you phrase it sounds like you are really looking for P4P on the dating sites. Many of the women would be eager to meet a young foreign guy without needing to lure them with money.
I have used the dating sites occasionally while in country if there is a break in the texts. Setting up a new profile can get a lot messages, but it can take a day or two to get reviewed and approved. The key to a fast response is to be clear in your ad that you are in Cebu right now. I usually have something like "Just landed in Cebu" as the intro and treat the body like an earlier travel announcement."Planning to travel to Cebu in late Feb. 2013. Looking for. '
Just move it as fast as you can from online to text messages to in person.
Good luck in the hunt.
SbySW
Member #4351
02-22-13, 16:38
GoPinay, if you did all right in Manila and AC, why did you risk going to Cebu? Go back to AC. As one of the "old guys" you mention, I would ask: If you are young and fairly good looking, what are you doing on ISG in the first place?
Stroker Ace88
02-22-13, 23:23
First and foremost thanks guys for all the great advice here in the Philippines sub-forum on ISG. It has been really helpful for my trip so far. Now that I am staying in Cebu City though. And although I have read a lot of the threads here from A to Z and made a shortlist of all the places to check out. The situation on the ground seems to be somewhat different from the posts in the forum.Read post #6255 on the General Information, Cebu section.
Stroker Ace88
02-22-13, 23:51
I saw this and it made me LOL. Directly relates to my ISG experience.
ASKHOLE
-a person that constantly asks for advice, yet always does the opposite of what you told them.
GoPinay, if you did all right in Manila and AC, why did you risk going to Cebu? Go back to AC. As one of the "old guys" you mention, I would ask: If you are young and fairly good looking, what are you doing on ISG in the first place?I am in Cebu because I actually want to see the Philippines and not just Manila and AC. I will go island hopping in a few days and then back to Manila in a month or so. Therefore Cebu with its "big" airport was the obvious choice to get to the Visayas quickly.
I am not exclusively looking for P4P, but I just like to have some fun from time to time and I really don't mind support the girls or whatever you want to call it. On DIA, FilipinoCupid etc. I generally only approach girls who post certain more revealing pictures or have set up their profile in a way that makes you think that they make money on the side. I don't think it is fair to play with girls who are actually looking for a relationship or even marriage since that is certainly not what I have in mind.
Read post #6255 on the General Information, Cebu section.That would be a post about STD's? Ok, but I have been to plenty of other countries in the region. Nothing new there.
Stroker Ace88
02-24-13, 14:30
That would be a post about STD's? Ok, but I have been to plenty of other countries in the region. Nothing new there.Post #6255 is not about STD's. The subject matter deals directly with your Q's and I posted it so I should know.
You need to go RTFF and do alittle work for yourself.
Amen. Some folks gets so uptight. On the Manila forum someone made a mistake of asking about some tourist activities. He got literally flamed. I don't know why. Especially, if you don't like to get s*face at the bars, Phils can be boring. What is wrong with helping and guiding your fellow monger?
I saw this and it made me LOL. Directly relates to my ISG experience.
ASKHOLE
-a person that constantly asks for advice, yet always does the opposite of what you told them.
Post #6255 is not about STD's. The subject matter deals directly with your Q's and I posted it so I should know.
You need to go RTFF and do alittle work for yourself.Ummmm, depending on individual settings, I don't believe everyone sees the same numbering.
This is the #6255 that I see:
FD -
I know the probability of obtaining a STD or STI depend on numerous and various type of factors, however I wasn't stating a probability or an assumption that everyone is at equal risk - that is not the case.
I was just merely trying to say that if you have sex with someone regardless if they are considered high-risk or not - the FACT is you will acquire an STD/STI or you will not - and that it what I meant by 50/50.
If you want me to elaborate on the stats. and different probabilities, I don't mind at all... but I think now you understand what I meant in the original post.
According to the WHO, The Philippines remains a low HIV prevalence country (2002).
Anyway, might be an interesting read to some...
http://www.who.int/emc-hiv/fact_sheets/pdfs/Philippines_EN.pdf
ILuvCebu
Best to provide a link to the post to avoid confusion. But, RTFF is always an excellent path!
Stroker Ace88
02-25-13, 23:19
Ummmm, depending on individual settings, I don't believe everyone sees the same numbering.
This is the #6255 that I see:
Best to provide a link to the post to avoid confusion. But, RTFF is always an excellent path!You are absolutely correct. I forgot every member has different settings, and in doing so posts get displayed from front-back and some back-front. My bad and I apologize.
Honestly I was tired of providing links to members with under 25 posts. Sometimes providing instant and on-demand info results in newbies who don't take the time to RTFF. They often come back awhile later to scream bad info was provided.
Stroker Ace88
02-25-13, 23:26
Amen. Some folks gets so uptight. On the Manila forum someone made a mistake of asking about some tourist activities. He got literally flamed. I don't know why. Especially, if you don't like to get s*face at the bars, Phils can be boring. What is wrong with helping and guiding your fellow monger?IMO the guy was rightly flamed. He was sourcing tripadvisor and asking a billion and one touristy questions. None consisted of GF hotels or available semi pro action. Basically the standard questions on the forum. The guy sounded like he was possibly writing a tourist book and wanted to mine info from members here. Some of the older ISG guys take offence if they feel a guy is not on the same page as other members.
Telling him to get lost was justified but that's just my 2 centavos.
Following on from my report on my stay in Davao, I arrived in Cebu City on the last day of Sinulog, which was pretty crazy. Naturally it affected my mongering activities. I went down the taxi driver route again. As the centre was closed off, we ended up in Banilad. Went to one of those houses in the slum areas. There wasn't a great choice. Think I turned one down because she looked too young. They wanted me to pay up front there too but I stood my ground. Ended up with one who was a skinny single mum in her 20's. Light skinned and quite pretty facially. Can't remember exactly how much we agreed either or her story but think she was from somewhere in the Visayas. Was semi shaven but its a bit saggy. Service was average from what I remember. Pics were ok but a bit reluctant. Offered her the preggo girl setup commission and exchanged numbers.
The hotel I stayed at was the Valleyfront in uptown. Not far from Osmena. I had ensured they were girl-friendly when booking. The room was ok but not outstanding. Was expensive due to Sinulog though. Staff were really great. Also, interestingly, I saw 'short time' hotel business for the first time. Interesting to watch big SUV's with tinted windows come in and then the lady would come in later or before, sometimes on foot. Crazy stuff. Anyway, I tried to check out a few establishments that have been written about but couldn't be bothered as locals didn't seem to think there would be much action there. Mainly Mango Ave. I was told that on Juana Osmena st girls stand outside this hotel (I forgot the name) after 8/9pm. I went there too early one day and had no luck but just thought I would mention it.
No contact from the prev girl with a preggo girl the next day and no one at all standing around on Colon, which is another documented pick up spot. The taxi driver said Junquera st is usually active. No one there either, but we found another slum house place on Junquera. Involved more waiting around etc. Eventually got another skinny, darker skinned girl who was not a good looker at all. Spoke good english though. Can't remember what we agreed price wise but pretty sure it wasn't more than 1000PHP for 2 hrs. Her pussy was lightly haired so didn't bother shaving. Had a worrying sore above her pussy. Nice tramp stamp too. Service was pretty decent and pics not a prob. The preggo girl commission discussion was promising as she said her roommate at the slum house was quite far pregnant. Exchanged numbers etc and she would sort it. Needless to say I never heard from her again. No more action that day.
Next day, mainly due to not much luck with other methods of finding girls, I ended up at the same slum place in Junquera. I initially went looking for the girl day before in order to get the preggo girl, but was told they had gone out together. They eventuall sourced me another girl. She was quite a hottie and spoke good english, but soon realised she did have personality issues as she kept slipping into a mode where she would be oblivious to the outside world and seemed to talk to herself. Might just be OCD for all I know. Bit of a nightmare to choreograph her in the bedroom though! Nice tatts on her front and upper back. Fully shaven and very flexible! Trying to get her to do stuff took twice as long as any other girl. Not sure if she was on something or not or if she was worth the hassle. Oral and sex were decent. She also said she had a preggo friend (not same one as the girl day before). Exchanged numbers and this time she did call me later. Arranged for them both to come over. Was a disaster as I fell asleep but she also couldn't find the hotel. Didn't find this out till she called me the next day.
As I was leaving that day, I had no plan to see anyone. After the call from the crazy girl offering the preggo girl, I buckled. I made a few schedule changes as my flight wasn't till late afternoon. Picked her up from uni (seemed like her 'secret' story that she was actually a student was true!). Met up with the preggo girl who was older (mid 30's and didn't speak good english). Was worried about the service levels due to the language prob. Agreed I would pay the preggo girl the commission afterwards. Dropped the crazy girls off and headed to the hotel. This girl was amazing and the preggo bit enhanced the experience. Petite and well-proportioned, though tits a bit lopsided. Agreed to semi-shave during the shower. Pussy was a bit worse for wear as had a couple of kids previously. Oral was decent and sex ok. Like the other girls, anal was refused. Soon after she left I was packed, checked out and on the way to the airport.
A decent stay but not the most prolific place for P4P in my experience, especially FL's, which is my main thing. My usual position regarding posting the pics remains the same.
I was told that on Juana Osmena st girls stand outside this hotel (I forgot the name) after 8/9pm. I went there too early one day and had no luck but just thought I would mention it.I live just off Juana Osmena. I'm surprised you didn't find anything there, unless you were very early. There are usually several at various places on the street pretty much any time after dark.
When I am walking home from Fuente, I am often approached in the 7-11 parking lot or just north of it. There might also sometimes be a girl or two across the street outside the National Bookstore. Further north, outside the beauty salon (closed at that time) just north of Baseline, there will usually be one or two, and I have often seen as many as six-seven. At the intersection of Mango and Maria Cristina, there will often be one or two on one of the corners. Further north (toward Escario) there will occasionally be one, but I would recommend the Mango end of the street for the best hunting.
I'm not sure how late the action goes, because I'm not a late-night person, but one night recently I had to go to the airport at 1am to meet friends coming in on a delayed flight and I walked to the Maria Cristina corner to get a taxi. There was one girl working that corner. Can't say about the rest of the street.
As is usual with street action, the numbers and quality can vary greatly, but some are nice-looking. I have never partaken of the offers here, but I have asked prices a few times. They usually ask 800 or 1000, but any show of reluctance brings the price down quickly. Five hundred is the lowest I've heard offered.
The taxi driver said Junquera st is usually active. No one there either, but we found another slum house place on Junquera.Where on Junquera?
YellowStar45
03-04-13, 14:44
Maxwell hotel good place room about 35 a night on and Escario st.
Stroker Ace88
03-05-13, 01:23
Maxwell hotel good place room about 35 a night on and Escario st.With only 7 posts and almost every one mentioning this hotel, I'm calling SHILL!
The street between National Book Store (Mango) and Escario Street is called Osmena Extension on local maps. It's best on.
Friday and Saturday nights after 9pm. There are at least 3 groups of girls with mamasans and a couple of loners if you walk the whole street.
I never pay over 700p and usually just get the girl's cell# and pay 500p for repeat sessions.
Enjoy,
Cheapy
I live just off Juana Osmena. I'm surprised you didn't find anything there, unless you were very early. There are usually several at various places on the street pretty much any time after dark.
When I am walking home from Fuente, I am often approached in the 7-11 parking lot or just north of it. There might also sometimes be a girl or two across the street outside the National Bookstore. Further north, outside the beauty salon (closed at that time) just north of Baseline, there will usually be one or two, and I have often seen as many as six-seven. At the intersection of Mango and Maria Cristina, there will often be one or two on one of the corners. Further north (toward Escario) there will occasionally be one, but I would recommend the Mango end of the street for the best hunting.
I'm not sure how late the action goes, because I'm not a late-night person, but one night recently I had to go to the airport at 1am to meet friends coming in on a delayed flight and I walked to the Maria Cristina corner to get a taxi. There was one girl working that corner. Can't say about the rest of the street.
As is usual with street action, the numbers and quality can vary greatly, but some are nice-looking. I have never partaken of the offers here, but I have asked prices a few times. They usually ask 800 or 1000, but any show of reluctance brings the price down quickly. Five hundred is the lowest I've heard offered.
I don't doubt what you're saying about local maps, Cheapy, but I've never heard it called anything but Juana Osmena, that's what Google Maps calls it, and cab drivers always know exactly what I mean when I give it as my destination.
I agree about the prices.
Stroker Ace88
03-06-13, 23:55
I don't doubt what you're saying about local maps, Cheapy, but I've never heard it called anything but Juana Osmena, that's what Google Maps calls it, and cab drivers always know exactly what I mean when I give it as my destination.
I agree about the prices.Alot of locals call it "J Osmena". Fairly common.
Some of the younger locals call it "J-Os". Maybe it's a play on J-Ave?
Typical conversation goes something like this;"I live on J-Os, just near Mango and behind Cebu Docs".
After my first couple of days and nights out in Cebu, I have to say that I am somewhat disappointed. For years I have read on the forum about the Ayala Mall and the clubs of Mango Ave, which had become legend. To be fair, my expectations may have loomed a little too large. Compared to other places that I have visited in the world, though, here is my impression:
I would echo what other forum posters have stated in that the PI is definitely more 'third world' then other places in SE Asia, or any other destination for that matter. Open poverty is just at another level here, which to tell you the truth, made me feel a little out of place. Other travelers who have never been here should be prepared for that.
The famed Ayala Mall is an average mall by North American standards, but my PI standards, is probably luxurious. Everything is very affordable here. Got an unlocked cell phone with 30 min credit for about $28. Forget the food court. The outer rim of the mall is lined by terraces which have nicer restaurants that have fantastic food for cheap. Not that they are divey. Think of your average mall with a TGI Fridays along the side. (In fact, there is one here.) I ate like a king for about $12, and I have a very big appetite. Someone with an average appetite could probably get by with less. I went to Bo's Coffee, which is a local coffee chain not unlike Starbucks. Definitely saw the foreigners here, but didn't get the impression that it was a pickup joint. In fact, I was only solicited once at the mall as a whole. It really just feels like an above average American mall. But because everything else here is so dodgy, it becomes the focal point for anyone with even an average income.
At night, visited some of the bars on Mango. Vikings is an average pickup bar. The women are very average. 5's or 6's at best. Despite that, they don't circulate like they should. Bars like this have gone the Korean route. It's not that they are being assholes for spoiling them. The girly circuit is different there. It's based on what is called the 'Room Salon, ' a very common set up / institution where a group of men pay pretty girls to drink with you and entertain you with their company. It's usually an after work thing, often for entertaining business clients. Sex is possible, but not necessarily assured. Girls only come when you call them over. If they are sent over sight unseen, they are usually very attractive. I suspect that Koreans view the PI as a place where Room Salons are cheaper. Unfortunately, this system makes the girls more aloof, and unlike what most westerners want, which I suspect are girls straddling the line of being forward when they detect that a guy likes them. And their mastery of that skill is what separates good clubs from the bad ones.
Overall, I was very unimpressed by any of the bars on Mango. Vikings was the best layout wise, but otherwise, that's not saying much. None of these bars would even rate compared to those in Thailand. One exception could be Arena, which has a much more elaborate, showroom / runway type layout. There were 1 or 2 girls here who were very good looking, an 8, with the Asian pop star look. However, I suspect that they were not really available, and just there to dance and 'wet the palate. ' The remaining girls were about 6's. This place was much more expensive, about 5-6x more expensive. Enjoyed the show when the 8's were dancing, after that, I took off not soon after.
I came to the PI as part of a larger, multi-destination trip. Looking forward to doing tourist things, like diving and seeing some cockfights. I can't speak to the girlfriend scene, but as a girly destination, somewhat disappointing. Unless you are staying here for an extended time, would probably recommend Thailand instead.
Hi Manny,
Thanks for your FR! It is not fair trying to compare Cebu with other SE Asian destinations. There are loads of girls here and it can take time to find them but they tend to appear in the least likely places! I still believe Cebu is the GFE capital of SE Asia!
Yeah Mango Avenue bikini bars have been going steadily downhill the past few years. They can be good one night and lame the next. Try checking out a few bars just off Mango Avenue, namely Lonestar, Temptations and Mavericks. The fun factor is greater as the girls are proactive.
Many of the BG from Arena and other clubs end up at J-Ave in Mango Square after 1:00 AM. If you can bare the loud music and you have a few moves, it's easy pickings! Check out IT Park after dark at a spot called "The Walk", where there are several restaurants and bars. This is ground zero for the call center industry and there are more then a few coffee shops well stocked with female agents.
One of the best cockpits is Galleria de Mandaue. Very safe venue for foreigners. They are straight shooters and trustworthy with your bets.
If you are going down to Oslob, try to get there ultra early (5:00 AM) as you will wait for hours if you show up later!
Enjoy Cebu!
Hi Manny,
Thanks for your FR! It is not fair trying to compare Cebu with other SE Asian destinations. There are loads of girls here and it can take time to find them but they tend to appear in the least likely places! I still believe Cebu is the GFE capital of SE Asia!
Yeah Mango Avenue bikini bars have been going steadily downhill the past few years. They can be good one night and lame the next.
One of the best cockpits is Galleria de Mandaue. Very safe venue for foreigners. They are straight shooters and trustworthy with your bets.
If you are going down to Oslob, try to get there ultra early (5:00 AM) as you will wait for hours if you show up later!
Enjoy Cebu!Thanks for the feedback. I did end up going to see a cockfight at a place called the Tejero Stadium, or something like that. It was safe and very cool. I also did the Oslob whale shark thing. Getting down there was a pain, but it was worth every minute of pain and every dollar. Incredible experience.
Too bad I didn't have time to check out the places you recommended. My sense of the PI is that it is more for serious LTR, rather than immediate fun. To each his own.
And by the way, my overall impression of the PI is that it was quite safe. I went to see a cockfight in another out of the way stadium, a place called Muahayahay Stadium. It was in a very dodgey area, and I wouldn't recommend anyone going there. But that would be because it was very impovershed and kind of stinky, but never dangerous. Everyone was very helpful. I don't know where this rep of danger comes from in the PI. I never sensed it at all.
I can see though why people think the PI isn't "going" anywhere. On my way into town from the airport, I saw this restaurant burning to the ground, like flames high in the air, serious fire. Then three blocks further down, there was a fire station, and all the fire engines were parked, all the lights dark, everyone sleeping. The taxi driver said this is common. Gee.
All is still in full swing and the "Bulaos" = Pimps are more helpful then ever.
One evening went to Sangciango / Paelez street. The pub "My Place was good for a beer and chat as warming up. Down at the road immediately saw a spinner with B-size tits (a rare show). Talked to her pimp with little nego agreed to 500 + 50 for him. He had to work hard to get that 50 because most of the short-time places were full. Took us 20 min cruising the area till we found a place for 200 PS. In the room, he got his share and left. The lass was quite inexperienced and shy. But deed with 2 shots was done in no hurry. Paid her the 500 and we both walked out happy.
One morning I walked at 7:30 at Osmena Circle and saw a girl sitting with her friend selling some stuff. Smiled at her and gave her a sign to walk towards me. She did. I asked her if 400 is ok. She smiled an ok. We grab a taxi to the Valley-hotel, less then 5 min drive. Room was 270. No questions asked at the reception and up we went. She told me she is in Cebu from province just since 4 days. Only had Pinoys before (so she said) and never got pussy liked. Once I introduced her to that art of excitement, she started to shiver and moan. Once her convulsion started I stuck my dick into her wet groove, pumped her in many positions and shoot finally onto her tits.
In Cebu : forget the bars with the overpriced and star-fish attitude girls, used to big-spender Koreans. Go for the FL's.
BrainDrain
05-05-13, 21:31
Was in Cebu for a night last week. I do love the girls of Cebu, so much nicer than the money focus of AC girls.
Flight arrived two hours late which meant I missed my first rendevous. Ended up meeting with two girls at my hotel. Excellent fun. These were referred from a previous contact.
Later that night headed out to meet up with a previous contact from another trip. This was the third time I have met this girl and still no sex. She is nice, she has something special but my trips are just too scarce to frig around with her anymore. We had some nice drinks at Slabadu and then she wouldn't come back to my hotel (says she knew the staff there) , she wanted to stay at Alpha Suites. At 1 am checked in for P2500 inc breakfast. Breakfast at Alpha is more Filipino than Western. Anyway, that's the end for this one.
Back at Marriott had a big breakfast then headed to Ayala to peruse the scene. Bo's is never going to be successful again. At the time I strolled past about 10:30, there was already 7-8 mongers sitting there waiting for the hotties. Well I can assure you there isn't going to be 7-8 girls wondering by at that time of the day. I didn't bother to hang around.
I sent off a few texts to my list of unknown DIA contacts. Ended up meeting the sister of a contact. Well actually met with the sister and her 20 year old daughter. Nothing spectacular to look at but after about 15 minutes the daughter mentions she used to work in a massage shop. P200 for a massage so I suggested we go back to the room to try out. A few minutes later I'm naked on the bed with the girl massaging me while mum watched. Once again this didn't go anywhere but for P200 it was worth a shot. Afterwards the texts kept flowing. I did of course realise it was the daughter texting me as her mum. She was promising quite a few things for next visit. That was really confusing me. Personally I'm not travelling to Cebu to fuck middle aged mother's of three. Nothing against them but I can do that at home.
In spite of the above mis-adventures I will certainly be back in Cebu. The people are friendlier and the right girls are exceptional which has been my previous experience.
BD
Fritobugger
05-06-13, 05:24
DIA is still working well for me. I just arrived a few days ago and have been fairly successful so far. Just one bad experience, with a "I have never done this before" girl crying and making a sad scene.
DIA is still working well for me. I just arrived a few days ago and have been fairly successful so far. Just one bad experience, with a "I have never done this before" girl crying and making a sad scene.Just for curiosity, what happened?
Fritobugger
05-08-13, 08:09
Gave her jeepney money and told her to go home.
Just for curiosity, what happened?
SR, If you find time can you do a trip report on Toledo?
I've been up in the mountains outside of Cebu and did some thinking about crossing over and then taking the ferry over to San Carlos, Negros and continue by bus around to Silay / Bacalod. Online there are a few Toledo girls that look interesting as well.
How did you get to Toledo, hotel experience, entertainment, ferry options if possible.
And yes, warm beer is one of the disappointments of venturing out to the provinces. LOL. X Man.Probably this is best dealt with here in the "Cebu" thread or "Other Areas" wouldn't you agree X Man?
(No, of course you wouldn't. No way would you agree with me).
I am a bit bemused about the ferry option for Toledo although I suppose if you had the time for an island hop via Negros and you were willing to risk any Filipino banca pilot's seamanship then go for it.
Toledo is a small community so best to monger outside of town away from the local gossip.
I have paid taxi fares for Toledo women to come to Cebu City to meet and the damage was a mere 250 php or thereabouts. I have been over the road myself and it is an easy road trip.
In most cases though, the cabbie wanted 500 php as a 2-way fare to take her home again at night because he would be unlikely to get a fare back to Cebu City. During the day the small jeepney / multicabs run back and forth.
Here is a Cebu Map for those needing Cebu orientation. Sorry it is small when uploaded here - I cannot find a way to make it larger. It's a good size on my computer. Just ignore the arrow for Danao. I borrowed the map from an advert for something in Danao.
Pagal Chacha
05-08-13, 19:54
I was in transit at Singapore on my way from London to Cebu on silk air, on seat next to me a young filipina lady 23yrs was sitting and gave me a smile, started of with a small talk, she was a domestic worker from Singapore whose contract had been terminated and was on her way to province in Cebu, she was going to hang around at bus terminal for 5 hours before she got her bus, as she did not want to spend money on hotel, being.
A gentelman, I promptly offered her a place to sleep in my room for the night. Initially she was reluctant, eventually agreed saying that she was virgin and did not want to give up her virginity, I assured her that I would not take her cherry against her wish, on reaching room after shower and couple of drinks lot of passionate DFK, BBBJ and 69 position followed, eventually I blew my load in her mouth and she swallowed every drop, during DATY I noticed that her hyaman was intact she was genuinely a virgin, but she kept on insisting that I sucked her nipples while she masturbated, in the morning, she said she was ready to give her cherry, provided I married her or had a long term relationship with her, I said to her that I can give no promise or any commitement, so all I got was a second blow job as good bye, and gave her 1000 pesos for taxi and bus journey
Member #4351
05-08-13, 21:03
Pagal Chacha, congratulations on keeping your word and leaving her intact. Unfortunately I'm afraid that many others who post here would not have behaved in the same manner.
I've used a ferry to go from Dumaguete across to the west tip of cebu island. And then a frigid bus to C. City. THe ferry ride was short, I think it was about 15 minutes. The Toledo / San Carlos trip would be a bit longer. Here is a web page with some info.
http://www.sancarloscity.org/gettingtosancarlos.htm
RK, thanks for the taxi info.
Probably this is best dealt with here in the "Cebu" thread or "Other Areas" wouldn't you agree X Man?
(No, of course you wouldn't. No way would you agree with me).
I am a bit bemused about the ferry option for Toledo although I suppose if you had the time for an island hop via Negros and you were willing to risk any Filipino banca pilot's seamanship then go for it.
Toledo is a small community so best to monger outside of town away from the local gossip.
I have paid taxi fares for Toledo women to come to Cebu City to meet and the damage was a mere 250 php or thereabouts. I have been over the road myself and it is an easy road trip.
In most cases though, the cabbie wanted 500 php as a 2-way fare to take her home again at night because he would be unlikely to get a fare back to Cebu City. During the day the small jeepney / multicabs run back and forth.
Here is a Cebu Map for those needing Cebu orientation. Sorry it is small when uploaded here. I cannot find a way to make it larger. It's a good size on my computer. Just ignore the arrow for Danao. I borrowed the map from an advert for something in Danao.
I was in transit at Singapore on my way from London to Cebu on silk air, on seat next to me a young filipina lady 23yrs was sitting and gave me a smile, started of with a small talk, she was a domestic worker from Singapore whose contract had been terminated and was on her way to province in Cebu, she was going to hang around at bus terminal for 5 hours before she got her bus, as she did not want to spend money on hotel, being.
A gentelman, I promptly offered her a place to sleep in my room for the night. Initially she was reluctant, eventually agreed saying that she was virgin and did not want to give up her virginity, I assured her that I would not take her cherry against her wish, on reaching room after shower and couple of drinks lot of passionate DFK, BBBJ and 69 position followed, eventually I blew my load in her mouth and she swallowed every drop, during DATY I noticed that her hyaman was intact she was genuinely a virgin, but she kept on insisting that I sucked her nipples while she masturbated, in the morning, she said she was ready to give her cherry, provided I married her or had a long term relationship with her, I said to her that I can give no promise or any commitement, so all I got was a second blow job as good bye, and gave her 1000 pesos for taxi and bus journeyIf it happened as you say, your a gentleman, great control, great character, ten out of ten!
She might not be so lucky with the next guy, LOL.
MangoBob68
05-23-13, 03:05
I am sure those of who have been to the Philippines and enjoy the water have experienced riding pump boats.
This may sound crazy but I am seriously thinking of buy my own pump boat for island hoping. Yes, I have reliable people to care the boat when I am not around and I plan to spend 4 months a year at minimum staying in the Philippines.
My question is for those who live or spend most of the year in the Philippines and enjoy snorkeling, sailing, swimming, scuba. Does anyone have any experience owning and maintaining their own pump boat?
I have done some research and see that good ones can cost 100, 000 to 300, 000 pesos (second hand).
A good website to checkout for those of you who like island hoping is = www.island Banca cruises. Com They are out of Cebu / mactan.
I would fix the boat up for part time living when island hoping. Meaning bed / cooking (bbq) + electricity + mini ref for cold drinks / water. The boat comfortable for 6 to 8. It would be a 32 to 40 footer.
I thought it would be cool to own a boat to travel anywhere. I cannot afford a house and I not want buy a condo and be tied to one place. If the boat did not work out I could always sell it. Plus the boat could be used for business.
I like to hear from those who have done this / tried it or know of those who had.
I appreciate any feed back other than calling me crazy!
I have to share one more. The fantasy. I can see myself traveling down Cebu coast line to bantayan / malapascua and then island hop from island to island WITH 2 OR 3 CHICA BABES.
Anchoring off shore of a great beach and clear water. Sharing musica, dance, drinks. Party time just the 3 or 4 of use. Maybe nude swim. Sleeping under the stars with sweet chica babes. Minus the mosquitos of course.
This time stayed in Cebu 12 days.
Landed on 4 may. Had chatted with quite a few in DIA and had a long list of prospects. Tex-ted one from Manila to see if she will meet me at the airport. She agreed initially and on the day of travel wanted to bring her ladyboy
friend along. This is a no-no for me. Many others said they live too far from the airport but willing to come to my hotel.
Anyway checked into Cebu R hotel. Good rate of $40 / night. Hotel itself is old and located near the capital but clean and nice bed with limited breakfast. No frills here.
Tex-ted next girl on the list. She said something like she wants to bring her 16 year old sister along which is another no- no for me. Texted the next one. She showed up well dressed and very pretty (will show her pics in Photo
Thread) Fair color, nice boobs. 5' 3" tall. Very pleasant and sexually horny as hell. She said she only had one bf for 1 year and since he left a year ago did not have any sex. Her only form of satisfying herself is a vibrator
which she brought later. We had very good sex many times and she wanted to go to mcdonalds for dinner. I told her we can go to a nice restaurent but she is thrifty. I had planned to keep her for only two days because I still
had a long list to try. But ended up with her staying 6 nights (bird in hand!). She worked in real estate had her own hours and sometimes she will go after breakfast and come back in the afternoon or evening.
We also did the usual thing like massage (she had a BOGO coupon) , movies, good restaurent only one time (she loves to eat in food court ). Totally inexpensive date. In addition not interested in a serious relationship as she said
she is too young to settle down at 20 years of age. Had a wonderful time with her sometimes experimented with her vibrator. She never tried anal and wanted to try but gave up because it is too painful for her.
All around nice horny GFE. She wanted to come to the airport to see me off but I told her it is a waste. I had another 6 days to try other girls. Besides constant sex with her was making her pussy sore.
After she left (she did not want money but I put few thousand pesos in her purse anyway) called the next one. This one is 19 years old, quite tall with nice boobs. Very inexperienced in sex and told me only reason she is doing this is to support her studies. However I
taught her as much as I could about sex and we had a great time together. Kept her for two days. Would not allow any pictures.
On to next one, texted a beautifull in the picture girl. She said she cannot come because of elections or whatever the reason. Texted few more but had a problem getting them to come alone and stayed with me. One wanted
her mother to come and meet me, other one wanted her grandfather to meet me (grandfather?) By evening I was feeling lonely and texted my last year girl and she came right away and stayed with me for two days. She
wanted to stay till I left but I had to break her heart saying I wanted to see another girl. Sex and companionship is always good with this one. She wanted to go to Bohol with me.
After she left went back to my list of DIA hopefuls. Some never replied and some others had excuses. Decided to take one day rest and slept well alone for the first time. In the morning started texting numbers on the list again.
Found a girl who wanted 5000 pesos for one day (can you believe it?) Ultimately I settled for 1500 only if she is good looking and good sex. Once I saw her her asking price matched her looks. Pretty model like looks.
Could be a high class hooker. She told me she she never went below 3000 pesos her price. Anyway once she is comfortable good sex ensued and she was total GFE. Her story is she is from some place in Mindanao and on her
own studying in Cebu. Promised to take her to Boracay next time. She is worth it. Woulkd not allow any pics. I guess most of these girls in DIA are afraid of their pics end up on internet. My flight to AC was not till evening next day and she kept me company. We went for a nice lunch and had some leg massage together. Nice girl.
Next report in Angeles city section where I stayed two nights.
I like pregnant girls. Is there any place where pregnant girls can be available?
MangoBob68
05-26-13, 02:35
i like pregnant girls. is there any place where pregnant girls can be available?i have had pregnant girls in date in asia / filiipina heart contact me. what you need to do is say what you are looking for in your profile and they will find you.
say you are flexible. welcome to chat / meet pregnant girls separated or single. there are not a lot but they are out their looking for someone to help them with their needs. to buy milk / [CodeWord131] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131) / meds / delivery. a lot of girls get "knocked" up by the boyfriend who then dumps them. so yes, just go "fishing" but point out in your message that pregnant girls welcome.
Pinaypounder
05-30-13, 20:25
[QUOTE=MangoBob68; 1426719]I have had pregnant girls in Date in Asia / filiipina heart contact me. What you need to do is say what you are looking for in your profile and they will find you.
Nice thing about them is they can't claim your the father!
PP
[QUOTE=MangoBob68; 1426719]I have had pregnant girls in Date in Asia / filiipina heart contact me. What you need to do is say what you are looking for in your profile and they will find you.
Nice thing about them is they can't claim your the father!
PPThey can't claim? No guarantee about that, and almost anything else, LOL
Hey guys,
So for the very first time ever, a girl caught me slipping. I picked up a random girl outside of the Disco. After hitting it off, she wanted to go to my hotel with me. The first negative sign should of been when we were signing her into the hotel. She didn't have her I'd and so I had to sign a waiver form as well as her filling out the standard form at Quest Hotel. After that, we got to my room and we started making out and stripping. But before we could go at it, she wanted us to take showers but it had to be separate because of what she claims "her religion". I should of known something was up because my spider senses went off! I actually got out of the shower in like a minute.
After our showers, we go at it for a good 30 minutes and she falls asleep half way through because she was drunk and it was like 5:00am I think? After we both woke up around 1, we go at it again! She didn't have the best looking face but I really liked her body and her sweet snatch. After getting it on again, I jumped in the shower for a minute and got out. Long story short, I sent her home and I tipped her 1000 pesos because I only that and a 100 peso bill. LOL.
So when I mentioned that I got caught slipping, it was because she went through my pockets at some point during her stay and managed to snag the one $100 bill I had in my wallet. I didn't realize this until after she left and I went down to the bank to try and buy Pesos. So basically, I forked over $100US plus 1000pesos for a LT that offered pretty gosh darn good service. I've paid more for shittier service in other countries but just the fact the prices are so low in the Philippines bothers me LOL.
Anyways, when messing with Freelancers, throw your stuff into the safe after you come back from where ever. I know to lock up everything before, but I always left my wallet and carrying around cash for the night in my pocket and I got burned. Also, make sure she has an I'd before you even jump in the cab with her. Who know's what kind of scheme she had cooking. Also, think with your big head more than the little one! LOL.
Anyways, the girls name is Trixie or at least that's what she goes by. She was rolling with 2 other girls last night and they speak pretty good Korean. I'm thinking they rob a lot of Koreans? Some photos of her too will be posted.
Stroker Ace88
03-11-14, 22:50
YG,
The freelancers from Mango change names ALOT. One week they are Trixie the next they are someone else.
Only some of her close freelancer friends might know her real name. Post a pic and see if she is well known.
Member #4351
03-11-14, 23:35
An I. D. doesn't mean much in the Philippines.
Pip Jaeger
03-12-14, 00:26
So when I mentioned that I got caught slipping, it was because she went through my pockets at some point during her stay and managed to snag the one $100 bill I had in my wallet.
Anyways, when messing with Freelancers, throw your stuff into the safe after you come back from where ever. I know to lock up everything before, but I always left my wallet and carrying around cash for the night in my pocket and I got burned.
Anyways, the girls name is Trixie or at least that's what she goes by. She was rolling with 2 other girls last night and they speak pretty good Korean. I'm thinking they rob a lot of Koreans? Some photos of her too will be posted.Don't even take your wallet when you go out, lock it in the safe, the only time I ever carry my wallet here is when I'm driving either a car or motor bike; and even then most times I only take my driver's license. I've never been randomly asked for identification when walking around. If you're worried about being in an accident, or in case something nefarious happens, then write your name, blood type, an emergency contact number and hotel info down on a piece of paper and put it in your top pocket or shoe. Also, when you take a girl back to the room empty your pockets of all of your cash and put it (along with your ICE info) into the safe when she takes a shower; if you shower first, then take your pants into the bathroom with you.
Before the girl leaves you can also ask to check her purse, then watch how she reacts, it takes a real pro to feign innocence; although in your case you may not have found the single $100 bill her reaction may have been an indicator to search a little more thoroughly or perhaps even prompted you to check your wallet. One time in AC when I was staying at the ABC I asked a girl to look into her purse, she got a really tense look and started to get all fidgety; when I looked in her purse I found that she had taken some of the complimentary soap and a toothbrush that the hotel gives you. I simply smiled and told her she should first ask about taking them the next time (I guess some guys are too cheap too even let a girl have stuff like that, so she felt she needed to just take it).
Looking forward to seeing the pic of Trixie or whatever her name might be.
Member #4387
03-12-14, 12:13
Operating a bit under false flag I have allways told I am uninterested in travelling Philippines except from Makati. Even so I have been looking at the J. Ave nightclub some of them girls are stunning.
For the J. Ave Superclub girls many of them are pictured in the nightclubs own FB page and I have did some detective work and found many of them in various datingsites. Any info of the Basement Megaclub in Mango sq as well? Beside J. Ave girls I will also meet normal datingsites girls I have worked for a couple of weeks as I hear that is by far the best bet down in Cebu and not unlike how I operate in Makati (but in Makati area I have start to learn also the more hi so nightlife around there but I can not expect that in Cebu beeing a firsttimer here). Girlie bars etc are not on my interest list, streetwalkers the same.
I guess J. Ave is a big club and most of the girls here consider themself beeing freelancing a hi so venue, am I right? I see some of them girls run into "in a relationship" and "out of relationship" every other day so they must be pretty busy, hehe.
I have not realy had time to browse through Cebu forum so I will not ask to many stupid question and find out later what maby did go wrong if anything. I chose Marriot hotel (looked ok as I found maby Shangri La Mactan a bit far offish) as my base of operations. And for datingsitegirls they have to come to my location as I never travel around to meet these contacts (they get rewarded for their effort anyway). I will look up more information of the Marriots surroundings later (if chances to pull from a shopping mall located close by will be possible as I find mall pick ups fun at times).
I don't want to mention any of the J. Ave girls by name (atleast name they operate under in various sources of online establishments. This not to offend anyone maby thinking they are in committed relationships to them.
But if any of you gents feel free to run in some advices it is highly appreciate (I am not tight in the cash department but if I can I will not try to spoil ladies and ruin the market, not that one bloke can do that, but you know it is debated big time over and over again). I am a fairly active contributor in Thai, Manila and Beijing threads.
Stroker Ace88
03-12-14, 17:36
J. Avenue or Julianas as I still call it, can have the most amazing crowd, music and vibe one night and be totally sucky the next. There is no rhyme or reason why, it just does. Recently the Koreans have really moved in (last 3yrs or so) and made it their home base so to speak as they flood into Cebu to study English. They will ruin it the way they ruined Sunflower, but see'est la vie di ba.
I took a look at some of the most recent pics on the J Avenue FB page. I recognized a few very infamous BG's mixed in there. Most were friends of the DJ's and owners. BTW the pics taken a few months ago around Sinulog are not the normal J. Avenue crowd so take note. There were not a lot of hi-so Filipinas that I could pick out from the pics, more hi-so guys. The hi-so crowd generally likes to party elsewhere around Cebu.
I think you will be disappointed in J. Ave vs Manila clubs. The quality just is not there.
Member #4387
03-13-14, 02:21
J. Avenue or Julianas as I still call it, can have the most amazing crowd, music and vibe one night and be totally sucky the next. There is no rhyme or reason why, it just does. Recently the Koreans have really moved in (last 3yrs or so) and made it their home base so to speak as they flood into Cebu to study English. They will ruin it the way they ruined Sunflower, but see'est la vie di ba.
I took a look at some of the most recent pics on the J Avenue FB page. I recognized a few very infamous BG's mixed in there. Most were friends of the DJ's and owners. BTW the pics taken a few months ago around Sinulog are not the normal J. Avenue crowd so take note. There were not a lot of hi-so Filipinas that I could pick out from the pics, more hi-so guys. The hi-so crowd generally likes to party elsewhere around Cebu.
I think you will be disappointed in J. Ave vs Manila clubs. The quality just is not there.I read your recom with great interest Stroker. I am a clubbing guy and some koreans never did frighten me as I make it quite well through behaviour, spendings and dressing globaly clubwice speaking and hooking up with ladies (free or not free). When I spoke of hi so it was in the meaning of the girls themself believe they belong into the hi so segment.
I have quite a few on the radar and these girls seems to like a good party. I only go there as stated to do J. Ave club as in been there done that a few nights and then head back home (and some real datingsite girls aswell, often they come in combination). Some of them girls I have had long time communication with and even if, as stated, they go on and off regarding their in and out relationship status (I guess it is a phil thing) , some even put they are married, they still want to meet up with me.
As they want to meet i take it from there (I have no bad intentions but to bed a few of them and leave). One of them I even flew in to Makati (I mean ofcourse Naia but you catch my drift) and she was in relationship (so she stated but not my cup of tea so did not explore this matter further). She told me a bit of MO in this club but I like to hear it from others as well as I believe some pinays as much as the leader of North Korea.
Any other leads of a real hi so environment but as in other part of the world living on site makes it more easier beeing included.
Thanks anyway.
Yes, it's a shame that Sunflower closed down.
I've never heard of the Basement Megaclub. Is that new? In the same complex is another club: Club Holic (if my memory serves me correctly). I didn't like the vibe in the Holic place, but as SAce says, things can vary from night to night.
There is also Pump to consider visiting. I assume it's still open, although it's been about seven months since I've been to Cebu. It's smaller so sometimes too crowded. Lots of Koreans including ladies.
I'd also like to check out MO2 in Mandaue and Lotus Disco in Lapu2. Has anyone been to these places?
https://www.facebook.com/clublotusmactan
J. Avenue or Julianas as I still call it, can have the most amazing crowd, music and vibe one night and be totally sucky the next. There is no rhyme or reason why, it just does. Recently the Koreans have really moved in (last 3yrs or so) and made it their home base so to speak as they flood into Cebu to study English. They will ruin it the way they ruined Sunflower, but see'est la vie di ba.
SNIP.
Wicked Roger
03-13-14, 09:23
I'd also like to check out MO2 in Mandaue and Lotus Disco in Lapu2. Has anyone been to these places?
https://www.facebook.com/clublotusmactanMO2 is good and has live music, many prefer that place to J Ave and some of the girls I know also prefer. Not too far from the centre so is a good place for a change of scenery.
Pip Jaeger
03-13-14, 10:27
There is also Pump to consider visiting. I assume it's still open, although it's been about seven months since I've been to Cebu. It's smaller so sometimes too crowded. Lots of Koreans including ladies.It's still open, fair amount of young (early 20's) well heeled locals go there too. Went there last week with a SYT, but was too crowded & loud for my tastes; didn't even really go inside, just stuck my head in the door and left.
I'd also like to check out MO2 in Mandaue and Lotus Disco in Lapu2. Has anyone been to these places?Went to MO2 last October with David33 and couple of my girls. Sat outside, ate a decent dinner that was not too expensive and listened to a local band; mostly easy listening type music (David33 has the hots for the lead singer, LOL). Was good that you can listen to live music and still have a conversation. We left around 9pm if I recall, the disco (indoors) was just starting to heat up, I stuck my head in the door and it looked to be a mostly local crowd. After the band we went to see was finished a more progressive rock band came on. I wanted to go back, take a few pictures and post a review, but the weather turned crappy and I got busy with other endeavors, LOL. May go back again with one of my girls or when D33 hits town again; that is if I can get him to get his ass out of the Marriot, LOL.
FruitNinja
04-01-14, 08:57
Pip Jaeger, YG365, Wicked Roger, and the crazy Jew, thanks for a good time in Cebu. Planning the next trip as soon as I get back. And yes WR, there's a certain waitress I need to see. Plus I wouldn't mind doing the fish net experiment again. Made for some great pictures. And Pip, no more taunting me, please.
BTW: I was in Makati getting a foot massage and pedicure right around the corner from Burgos. I'm tired, hung over, fucked out, and fall asleep in the chair. I'm snoozing and I get a poke and wake up. The crazy Jew is standing over me with a big smile on his face. Fuckin Mossad for sure. Anyway he goes to Stardust with me, after some good old fun with a Arab farmer at Havana Cafe. We were trying to help the poor guy but he picked every ladyboy that walked by. Finally we gave up and left him to the wolves. The Jew had a girl at Stardust in 30 minutes. Texted me later that he had picked up another one on the way to the hotel and he needed help. Crazy man!
Ahhh the stories!
Wicked Roger
04-01-14, 14:28
Pip Jaeger, YG365, Wicked Roger, and the crazy Jew, thanks for a good time in Cebu. Planning the next trip as soon as I get back. And yes WR, there's a certain waitress I need to see. Plus I wouldn't mind doing the fish net experiment again. Made for some great pictures. And Pip, no more taunting me, please.
With a Arab farmer at Havana Cafe. We were trying to help the poor guy but he picked every ladyboy that walked by.Well waitress and fishnets are waiting FN.
The Arab and LB is not odd many like the LBs
I was at St Giles once and saw an Arab go to the lifts with 3 LB and mentioned to security that they were LBs and did the guest know. The reply was "yes sire and he was very happy". Another Arab even brought is really ugly LB to breakfast at a hotel I was staying at!
No accounting for taste LOL.
WestCoast1
09-13-14, 15:52
I've written about this gal before, but not posted a picture of her. This is an odd, but long-running relationship. When I'm in Cebu, she and I have breakfast often (usually at McDo on Jones street, a block or so from the circle, but lately at the McDo in the circle). Usually followed by a walk in the Fuente area, then we go back to my hotel and read the newspaper together (like old married farts, and she's never seemed to be bothered by the messy bed from last night's freshly fucked-and-photographed cebuana). Then we go somewhere in the city just to go somewhere (she decides usually; so far several churches, some shipping docks (no idea why she took me there), and a lighthouse north of the city). Maybe after that she goes home, or we go to Bo's (Ayala or Rama / Fuente) for some tea or coffee (then she goes home as she has kids to pick up from school). That's it. Its a lovely, simple, friendship. I don't even tell her in advance when I'm coming to phils. I just txt her with a new number around 6:45 am with: Hi its Xxxxx kumasta? Reply is usually: "I'm good. Breakfast 7:15 please". Sure enough, its easy to shower and get to McDo / Jones in 30 minutes (often I can walk it). Since I often hit her up out of the blue, and she often suggests breakfast within 20 or 30 minutes, I'd guess she lives within a few minutes walk of the McDo.
One day sitting in my hotel room at Diplomat, after several years of this, she said: "We don't have the sex". No, did you want that hun? "No. Yes. No. I don't". Hell, that was confusing. Why or why not? "You have many girl. No sex". But you actually want it? "Yes. No". OK then; that started and ended any further discussion of sex. On that same day, walking later in the mall, she put her arm in my arm for the first time. I thought: Great, she mentioned sex, and she's warming up to me. Nothin' doing' fella, as that's as far as we ever got.
You can see in the pic of us at Magellan's Cross her size. The blurred part comes to the top of my head. As I'm a few inches under 6', that makes her about 4' 10", and I'd put her scrawny weight at 80 lbs (at most). There are guys (on this very ISG board included) out there that think we asian-lovers are pervs. Literally they think we go there to get **** (based on the pics we post). We don't, and you and I cannot help it that pinay sometimes look like this woman (almost as a child). She's really nearing 40, with a handful of kids, wears nice clothes, and is not educated but is classy. But that doesn't stop the father McCobb types who think we're all pervs.
Sorry the pic is this redacted / blurred.
My friend who knows the scene in Cebu told me its mostly about the freelancers.
After I got settled in my hotel.
I got in a taxi and told the driver:
Girls? Ayala?
His English was pretty bad.
Finally he seemed to get it when I said:
'girls. You know, happy boom boom. '
He said: Mango street.
We drove awhile and found ourselves on a dark street. A 45? Year old woman was street walking.
Came over to the car.
Not interested.
Want younger.
Old pro says: 'no problem, I get younger, 1500 for each for me and her, she's 22, very pretty. '.
Finally got home for short time with the super slim, sometimes pretty, 25 year old, after offering jollibee, etc.
Wow!
I've been writing about my adventures and misadventures in Angeles city over the last few days.
And the best part is that the girls surprisingly often have shown they were really into the sex; going from dry to wet, etc, etc.
This girl turned out to be another hyper girl, moving quick.
I kind of thought she'd be quick and cool and professional and try to make me come fast so she would have an excuse to leave.
In bed, after hanging out with her eating our food and getting to know each other a little.
I asked her if she ever used lube.
Then we tried it a little.
Then she told me about how. She had a friend who actually masturbated! A lot! Because she was crazy!
And her friend showed it to her once!
And I made approving comments.
BTW, the girl was part Chinese; spoke some Korean; and said she had been told she looked like a Korean movie star.
Which I definitely saw once it got exciting. A beautiful, Korean movie star or model, super slim, tiny tits that for some reason turned me on once we got started.
Hyper girls: they need to move. Comes out in different ways. Often great at blowjobs. We didn't go there.
Oh, and they can lie easily.
I regularly do pussy massage, love the soft petals.
The lube makes the petals much more sensual.
Her clit started to get hard.
And I put her hand on my dick to balance it out.
This girl, lets call her "Amazing", apparently was lying about her friend being the masturbator.
Soon she was vigorously stroking her pussy in several different ways it seemed.
Moaning, moving her hips, touching me.
This was 100 percent real.
She had told me my dick was scary, too big. Just a normal American tall guy dick, average really.
But it was too big sometimes, hit her cervix a few times.
I put my cock in, not all the way.
Hmm: to sum up:
She came first. Like, out-of-control came first.
It was fucking amazing what happened.
She basically just took me for a ride like I've never been on before.
I usually tip some taxi money. 2-300,500 for all night if I like things.
I said fuck it, I gave her 1000, never ever did that before.
But as I told her: what she did was Amazing.
ChinaTimes
01-21-15, 04:45
My friend who knows the scene in Cebu told me its mostly about the freelancers.
After I got settled in my hotel.
I got in a taxi and told the driver:
Girls? Ayala?
His English was pretty bad.
Finally he seemed to get it when I said:
'girls. You know, happy boom boom. '
He said: Mango street.
We drove awhile and found ourselves on a dark street. A 45? Year old woman was street walking.
Came over to the car.
Not interested.
Want younger..I'll be in Cebu next week and if you are still there, I have some girls with friends I can share with you if you are interested. I contacted a lot of them and I think my eyes were bigger than my stomach (or energy level), so PM me and I can share some of them with you if you like.
Thanks
Weather.
Great weather here in January. And unlike Manila and Angeles, you can feel the sea in the air, it's more pleasant to be here at night.
The Henry Hotel.
I love my hotel, The Henry. Artsy, quirky, fun. This is the first time I've ever liked a hotel room so much I'd rather not go out!
Except to bring a girl back and show it off! It's huge and colorful. One time I had a girlfriend who was house sitting for a place designed by the head of the architecture department as a dream house, with a spacious bedroom with a mountain view and a beautiful white bed; my girlfriend said the room itself was an aphrodisiac. That's how I feel about this place. I got upgraded to the sixth floor, maybe because I complimented the desk clerk on her cute glasses, LOL.
Its a girl friendly hotel.
Hyper girls and sticky fingers.
Oh, one other quality about the hyper girls, like my girl last night, Amazing. They are great thieves. I keep thinking I'm going to find the 700 that seems to be missing from my wallet. I know I had a five hundred, and some smaller bills, and was going to tip her, and it was so amazing I gave her 1000, but today, there seems to be only a single 100 bill in my wallet. And I can't remember leaving the hotel since then. Did I give her a thousand, and then leave my wallet there near her unattended?
Or was it the maid?
Or did I drop it?
Dubious, the maid was a university tourism student who seemed totally middle class and so cute I was watching her the whole time.
Hmmm. Dammit, I wanted to remember Amazing as amazing, but now I remember her as the girl who probably stole 700 after I tipped her 1000.
Reminds me of the barely legal hyper girl in Cuba who sought me out insistently, gave me a blowjob in a dark corner, and suddenly my wallet was missing. And it had no money in it. I had gotten the blowjob for 3 dollars, because I had told her truthfully I had almost no money, my money was fucked up because Cuba wasn't cashing my travelers checks. But it was my favorite wallet, and had my drivers license in it, and finally when I ransomed it for five dollars from my casa, after she claimed she had no idea where the wallet was, it suddenly appeared. I called her a magician. And smiled, because it was really a great blowjob from a barely legal hot girl, and it cost me 8 dollars for the blowjob and a great story.
Wet girls vs professionals.
OK, I'm definitely spoiled now. I picked up a girl from mango tonight, and she wasn't that much into the sex. Duh.
First girl out of six in the Philippines who didn't enjoy herself much. Not counting my new girlfriend in Angeles who I had a slow first night with when we were both tired, but warmed up later.
I'm spoiled.
Filipino guys.
When the doorman, and the karaoke guy nearby, got the idea that I wanted to find a girl, they laughed happily.
Reminds me of Jamaican guys, who think its just natural for guys including foreigners to want to get laid, and point them in the right direction like brothers.
Maybe these guys have their own second or third girlfriends.
Mango, prices.
I've only spent a few hours in Cebu outside of my hotel, two nights now. Seems like after midnight, you tell the driver to go to mango. To go fishing. For girls.
There's a complex filled with people after midnight called one mango, I think. The national bookstore is on the corner near there. The complex is filled with regular girls and sometimes their dates, plus some professional girls mixed in, sitting at the outdoor cafes, amid the discos, restaurants, gelato stand, etc. Ride down the dark streets past the national bookstore, and there are girls standing on the side of the road, 1500 for short time. You pay first, before you take the girl. When they first told me I was supposed to pay first, I thought they were saying it was something to pay off the police, but I guess they meant, its the local policy to pay first.
Weather.
There's a complex filled with people after midnight called one mango, I think. The national bookstore is on the corner near there. The complex is filled with regular girls and sometimes their dates, plus some professional girls mixed in, sitting at the outdoor cafes, amid the discos, restaurants, gelato stand, etc. Ride down the dark streets past the national bookstore, and there are girls standing on the side of the road, 1500 for short time. You pay first, before you take the girl. When they first told me I was supposed to pay first, I thought they were saying it was something to pay off the police, but I guess they meant, its the local policy to pay first.You only pay up front if a pimp of some sort is involved, freelancers without pimps have never asked me for money first. Even with pimps I always say I pay half up front and another half at the end.
Part 3 of my report, see Singapore and Angeles area for the other two.
Originally I did not plan to do any mongering in Cebu as I have quite a few expat and Filipina friends and coworkers here who would not approve of that sort of activities. Instead I planed to just do some casual dates with lunch or dinner. Unfortunately I don't deal well with temptations so it didn't go many days before I started breaking my rules _.
Hotels:
Actually stayed at three different Hotels in Cebu. Started out with two nights at Radisson Blu before going to Angeles. Did not do any mongering during this period. I'd say this hotel was the nicest of the three although the view and surrounding area is somewhat of a dump. It's right across the street from SM Mall which can be nice if you use that to meet or pick up, but not really much else in the area as far as I could tell. SM also has a fairly large reasonably priced food court, as well many more expensive chain restaurants. The breakfast at Radisson Blu is very good with a huge selection, unfortunately I only went there once as I overslept the second day and had to take an early plane the third day.
When returning from Angeles I first booked into Marco Polo. I chose the cheapest room available and to my dismay I ended up with two single beds. Not really a huge problem as I didn't plan to bring back any girls, although I ended up doing it after all. Still funny to see her reaction when I pointed at the free bed and told her "That's your bed, see you in the morning. " The view was very nice as the hotel is up in the hill overlooking the city, but the location otherwise is not very good and I spent a lot of time and money taking cabs wherever I needed to go. Seem to be girl friendly enough, the one time I brought a girl back I got no questions and she didn't have to sign in. They also have a fairly nice bar in the lobby that had live music in the evening. I ended up moving after three days as I didn't find it to be worth the price.
The last part of the journey I stayed at Quest. Hotels.com had a 70% off if booked through the mobile app so I ended up paying only 2000 p per night without breakfast. Room was ok, fairly nice but a bit small. The location is great with Ayala Mall and Infinity KTV within walking distance. I also walked down to mango one night, but generally I would take a cab as I don't deal well with the outdoor heat and I'm not sure how safe it is to be walking around. The hotel is girl friendly, but they require girls to register and leave their I'd with the reception. When the girl is leaving they will call your room to check that everything is ok before letting her leave. Although it's not the nicest hotel around I'll probably be staying her next time due to the location, unless I try a new hotel instead.
Leaving out all the days I did not do any mongering as they were mostly spent visiting friends, hanging out at Ayala or going on lunch / dinner dates with regular girls.
Day 1 of Mongering:
Was staying at Marco Polo at the time and did not plan on doing any mongering when I suddenly got a message on DIA from a random girl wanting to meet. At first I thought she was meaning like a regular date, but after moving to SMS it quickly turned out she was a pro, although she claimed she only did ever few months, but that she needed money for the Christmas party in her province. I had my afternoon and early evening free, so I figured why the hell not. At first she wanted 3000 for ST, but when I told her I could get a bargirl LT for that she quickly went down. Agreed on 1000 p + 500 p tip for good performance. She later talked me into paying for taxi fare as well. I realize I probably overpaid and do apologize if I'm ruining it for you locals.
As usual with Filipinas she arrived about an hour late, and looked quite different from her picture, but she was still OK looking and passed the boner test. Up in the room I had her shower first while I double checked that all valuables had been locked up in the safe. Then I did a quick shower with the door open so I could her if she started going through my stuff. She was quite small, and stretchmarks showed she had given birth at least once, but nothing too bad. Fairly straight to business after a bit of small talk, and started off with a BBBJ, she then asked if I wanted to use a condom. I asked what she preferred, and she said she preferred with as she was afraid of getting pregnant. Didn't really have any plans to risk going bareback so I happily obliged. Went at it CFS in different positions for a while before blowing my load inside her with condom on. When done we snuggled for a bit and had some more small talk before she asked if she could leave. I generally prefer LT, but it was OK for a quickie.
Day 2 of Mongering:
First day after moving from Marco Polo to Quest I got a new text from the girl before asking if I wanted to meet again because she needed money for "requirements" for a job as Sales lady at Ayala. Figured it was most likely bullshit lies but decided to play along as I didn't really care what she needed the money for. Agreed to same prices as first time. This time she was about 45 minutes late. When she arrived at the hotel I went straight for the room as I had done at all other hotels previously on the trip, but was stopped by hotel security who said she had to sign in at the reception. She got a form to fill out with name, address, phone number, etc, and they asked for her ID to keep until signing out.
Same procedure as before with shower, BBBJ, and CFS in different positions, although this time she seemed more active and into it. When done she well asleep in my arm with her head against my chest, but woke up a few hours later around 11.30 pm and freaked out because she had to get home "before the gate closed". Not really sure what the deal was, maybe she wanted to catch mango sq, or maybe the boyfriend / sponsor was waiting, or maybe she really had to get home. Either way, off she went.
Day 3 of Mongering:
Received another text from the same girl wanting to meet again, but I declined as I had a regular date with a sales lady from Ayala. Unfortunately when I got to the terraces where we were supposed to meet she was not there, and after 20 minutes and a few texts asking where she was and if she was coming, she replied that there were something wrong with the computer and she had to wait for a manager to arrive to reboot it and wouldn't make it. So there I was with no plans for the night and quite a bit pissed off. Decided to check out the bars at Mango Street instead, so went back to hotel and grabbed a Taxi. Taxi driver suggested I go to Arena instead, but I had already made my mind for the night and told him to take me to Vikings.
Had a beer at Vikings while chatting with some of the girls. At this time it was fairly late so I don't know if the best girls had already left, but I didn't really see anyone I liked except for one of the dancers. She was dressed differently from the other girls and looked rather young so I wasn't sure if I could barfine her, so I decided to check out the others bars instead of asking. Continued down the street to Planet X, then Sisters, and then what they claimed was a new bar next to Sisters. All the bars has some OK looking girl, but compared to Angeles the selection was pretty poor. As it was close to closing and I didn't want to start over again I found an OK looking girl, bought her a LD while interviewing and then took her home. 3000 p barfine.
In the bar she had been very sweet and gentle, but once back at the hotel she started showing a bit of an attitude. At the elevator she started laughing when she saw that my room was on one of the lower floors and asked if I was poor, and once we entered the room she complained about how small it was and proudly announced that earlier this week she had stayed at Marriott and the rooms there were much bigger. Not exactly the best way to set the mood, and for a brief moment I suggested kicking her out, but I wouldn't get back the bars in time for another pickup so decided to just go with it.
Same routine as usual, shower, BBBJ, OK CFS, but not really that into it compared to the Angeles girls. When done she complained about being hungry, but I was getting a bit tired of her complaining and told her she could have breakfast in the morning instead and went to sleep with one arm around her in a spooning position. The next morning she once again started complaining, this time about being sick from the air-con. I chose to ignore it and headed down for breakfast. While eating she asked if she could have some money for taxi back to the bar, so I slipped her a 500 p even though she didn't really deserve it. After breakfast I gave her a hug, and off she went.
Day 4 of Mongering:
Figured I should check out Mango Sq and J!Ave at least once before leaving town to check out the freelancer action. In terms of meeting people I know this was a bit risky, but figured it wasn't a place they were likely to visit, especially since it was a weekday. When I arrived the bartender hushed me over to the outside bar. At first I thought it was because I didn't match dress code (was wearing shorts), so I ordered a beer and sat outside and watched people entering. Quickly saw people wearing all kinds of things so it seemed the dress code wasn't that strictly enforced. I entered the bar and ordered a drink, and then another one, and then a few more as I didn't really see any talent that was without guys and receptive to my smiles. Ended up getting way to drunk and decided to just get home as there wasn't any point in trying to pick up anything at this stage. A bit bummed out, but got a cab and returned to the hotel.
Day 5 of Mongering:
Had the evening free and decided to check out out Infinity and Arena. Started out by walking over to Infinity as it was nearby. When I entered the mamasan quickly informed me of the rules: 1 LD for the girl + 1 LD for the mamasan (Don't remember the prices, but they were expensive) to sit one hour with a girl. No drinks and you weren't even allowed to talk to the girls. There were also signs all over saying "Strictly no barfine" not sure if it was for show or not, as I didn't bother asking. Overall the quality of the girls were much higher than the Mango bars and quite a few that I wouldn't mind taking home. Either way, figured it wasn't worth the price, finished my beer and grabbed a taxi over to Arena.
Arrived at Arena and as I entered it was fairly empty with just a few guys at one table. As I knew the place was expensive I had no plans to buy LDs so I sat down at the bar to avoid having girls over, and just watched the show while having a beer. Again most of the girls were high quality, and again signs all over saying "Strictly no barfine". Sat and watch the show for a while, including some tumults as this midget guy selling cigarettes tried to give a neck massage to an older Korean gentleman that wasn't very well received. Finished my beer and when asking for the bill I was slammed with an entry fee as well. Not really a surprise as I head read about it online, but it still annoys me when the bars throw the entry fee at you when leaving without saying a word up front when entering (There may have a been a sign though, I don't remember).
As it was still early I decided to try out Mango Sq again since it was Friday. Quite a lot of people outside, so I got a table outside and ordered a beer. Probably sat there for an hour or so drinking beer and texting with some friends hoping that someone would come over as I felt a bit awkward and creepy walking over to these young girls based only on my interpretation of their smile, but no one came over. I guess you have to approach them if you want any action. Was hungry so went over to the Kebab thing and bought what turned out to be the tiniest kebab compared to back home, but tasted quite good. Then went over to get some ice cream. Quite a few attractive, girls sitting around the ice cream stand giving inviting smiles, but I was just to beta to hit on anyone as I felt like a creep hitting on these young girls (even though I'm only in my early 30's. I guess northern Europe has ruined me). Still felt hungry so I decided to look for some more food, on the way once of the girls, although only slightly above average looking, asked if she could come home with me. Figured I still had plenty of time as the place was packed and I had found another girl I liked, so I told her maybe later and continued my search for food. When I arrived back at Mango Sq, just 20 minutes later (around 3. 15 am-3. 20 am), the place looked almost deserted, just a few average looking girls making no attempt at eye contact. I was devastated, did I really screw up again? Seems I did. Home alone again.
Day 6 of Mongering:
An expat friend invited me over to one of the bars a bit outside Mango Street, kind of in a sort of back alley looking street, I think it was Lone Star. Once there he challenged me to get a girl without buying any ladies drinks at all. The girls were very friendly even without buying any drinks, even if the bartender / mamasan looked a bit frustrated. The girl that seemed to be in charge looked rather young for a mamasan, but oldest girl I could see. Almost considered asking if I could barfine her if I hadn't had this cute, petite girl beside me. After a while the girls complained about being hungry and asked if we could buy pizza. My friend had previously told me the food there was pretty decent for a bar, so I figured why not. The pizza was around 350 p and a great way to get a table full of happy girls with the price of just slightly above one LD. After a quick interview, where we agreed she would stay until at least 9 am next morning I asked the girl next to me if she wanted to go with me, and got the usual "Up to you" answer. As I really hate that answer, I countered with "No, it's up to you, I won't take you unless you want too. " She nodded and told me she would go change. While she was changing we settled the drinks / food tab, and when she returned she asked for the 3000 p barfine (Both times paid directly to the girl, inside the bar).
Grabbed a taxi back to the hotel and signed her in. Spent some time talking and joking around before getting undressed, she turned out to be very cute and innocent. Claimed she was from Zamboanga where her parents had a farm, and that she had a daughter living there. She had come to Cebu to study, but later had to drop out, and that she was living with her sister in Cebu while pretending to work at a Korean Restaurants. As always I take their stories with a grain of salt, but it's still interesting to hear their stories, true or not.
After showing she asked if I had any condoms, and then quickly continued saying she got her own, before I could even pick one up. As I was already in a joking mood from early I decided to push it a bit to see her reaction, and told her I never used a condom. Kept pushing the no condom story a bit as I could see her getting more and more upset, at which point I felt so sorry for her and told her that I was indeed joking with her to see her reaction. A huge smile of relief across her face as she asked "Why you so funny?
Went on with a bit of kissing and softly playing with her nipples with my tongue, before continuing down, kissing stomach. When I got o far down, she quickly crossed her legs and said "Please don't, that's far enough" figured she wasn't open for DATY. Then she continued with a CBJ, which surprised me quite a bit since she was the only bargirl I had met that didn't do BBBJ, but I didn't want to ruin the mood by arguing. Far from the best BJ I have had, both because it was rather mechanical, up and down, and because it was covered. She then continued with cowgirl, but after just a few minutes she asked me to come. At that point I just started laughing and asking if she was in a hurry, and she replied "no, I just want you to come. " I told her we still had plenty of time and continued with cowgirl, for a couple of more minutes before she asked again, I told her to move over to missionary, pretty much the only position where I'm able to cum with a condom on, and even then it takes a bit of an effort. Kept going at it for a while, but it was clear she wasn't into the sex at all, even though she tried to a good sport, it was easy to tell she just wanted it to be over, so I did my thing.
After we had cleaned up, she was back to her own happy self, snuggled up and asked if she could watch TV. For some reason she ended up at one of Discovery channels watching a program about tropical fish of all thing, which seemed to be strangely amusing to her. She kept commenting on the fishes, telling me to look at this and that, and asking me questions like I was some sort of fish expert. I must admit I didn't care much for the program, but it was really cute seeing her like that, and I'm a sucker for cute and innocent. When the fish program ended we talked some more about her life, and then she asked if she could leave at 4 am because she had get back to her sister. This annoyed be a bit, and I told her we had agreed she would stay until 9 am at least, and she told me "OK, no problem, I won't run" and we went to sleep spooning, with my upper arm around her. I recall thinking her hair smelled really good before falling asleep.
Slightly after 8 am she woke me up, and asking if it was OK that she left. I asked if she wanted breakfast, but she just wanted to go home so her sister wouldn't be suspicious. Gave her 500 p tip for being cute, as well as an unopened box of chocolate that she had seen and asked if she could have.
As I was busy with non-mongering business the rest of the stay this turned out to be my last day of mongering. I'm still a bit sad I didn't get to try out the freelancer action at Mango Sq / J!Ave, but I guess there is always a next time.
All in all, a pretty decent first mongering trip, although I did some mistakes, have some regrets, and there are things I would do different. As always advice and suggestions from seasoned mongers are appreciated as I doubt it will be my last trip.
Total count for the trip, 4 girls (1 x Thai, 2 x Vietnamese, 1 x PRC) in Singapore, 3 girls in Angeles and 3 girls in Cebu over 4 weeks.
Great report. My only criticism is that you shouldn't explain the extraction process. Guess why?
Part 3 of my report, see Singapore and Angeles area for the other two. SNIP
Originally I did not plan to do any mongering in Cebu as I have quite a few expat and Filipina friends and coworkers here who would not approve of that sort of activities. Instead I planed to just do some casual dates with lunch or dinner. Unfortunately I don't deal well with temptations so it didn't go many days before I started breaking my rules _.
Pinaypounder
03-25-15, 17:45
I have been in Cebu for a few days and my pace is slow as I have met an actual keeper, thanks to FC. But that is not my story kids.
Prior to meeting my KEEPER I met the Devil. I dare not share to many details here as it seems most of you know her and almost all of you have sent her money. I would hate for her men to find out about her although if her men are readers then that's simply Karma.
I spent several hours with the woman and 2 nights and I listened to her talk and talk and talk. OMG. Right now she has a Fiancee who is a "multi millionaire" yet gave her a micro diamond ring, she has a BF who sends her cash that she has not met and she fucks me because 'its been awhile", I was respectfully quiet when her benefactors kept calling.
She does not have a pot to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) in despite having received MILLIONS of PESOS, yes MILLIONS you see she likes to shop! She has alot of shit but nothing of real value.
She won't see me again (I have invited her out) because despite the fact I only listen to her and fuck her well as she will fall for me and does not want to just be a fling? She might be a total pyscho!
She is the best internet fisherwoman I have ever heard of, at one point she had a man sending her 30 k a WEEK! And then she fucked around on him while he was in town no less.
She has been married a few times got deported from one country cause she was double married and is a bullshit artist extraordinaire.
I don't think she is a pure scammer, but she sure aint honest she is just a dumb classless jungle cat and boy does she use you dumb mother fuckers. She is the worst listener I have ever met, her body is far from even really good yet she is covered in men.
I did her cause we had breakfast and I knew I could fuck her so I did and she can suck a decent cock and she is certainly interesting to listen to. Its nice to fuck sober women that you spend an hour with that you can tell need it.
I did not pay her but she borrowed 500 pesos.
MEN ARE STUPID it is amazing what some men will do for a little attention! MY suggestion to some of you, get a dog, they are loyal and will love you inexpensively.
So far I have had 3 women only; one refused money and was angry when I stuffed some in her purse, 1 was the Devil and 1 is a keeper who takes nothing!
Think men think!
PP.
Member #4351
03-25-15, 20:38
Any reason why you don't want to put up her photo or give more information?
Pinaypounder
03-25-15, 23:53
Any reason why you don't want to put up her photo or give more information?My reasons are Karma. She did not hurt me, she does not blackmail men, she simply facilitates or channels their stupidity into her Bank Account! I should post photos of the idiots that send her money they are the stupid ones.
PP.
My reasons are Karma. She did not hurt me, she does not blackmail men, she simply facilitates or channels their stupidity into her Bank Account! I should post photos of the idiots that send her money they are the stupid ones.
PP.Know many girls from Cebu. All of them are angels. But hey, every guy who sent money to a girl like that deserve it to get pranked.
I have been in Cebu for a few days and my pace is slow as I have met an actual keeper, thanks to FC. But that is not my story kids.
Prior to meeting my KEEPER I met the Devil. I dare not share to many details here as it seems most of you know her and almost all of you have sent her money. I would hate for her men to find out about her although if her men are readers then that's simply Karma.Have heard worse horror stories about how people take advantage of people. That is why ISG is a good resource for information on making informed choices and not think with the little head!
LifeIsABeach
05-08-15, 01:50
Hello mongers, ready for some schooling.
GlobalTurkey
05-16-15, 20:27
Hi,
I am from Bangalore India and my work takes me around the world.
This will be my second trip to Cebu, last time was in August 2014. I stayed at Marco Polo, but the hotel was too far away from all the action so I later switched to the Waterfront.
I did not have a lot of time for mongering and having read whatever I had, I decided to try Mango street. Hung around in a bar and had a few drinks but just could not make out which are the ones in business and which are the ones that are not. Usually you see girls smiling or giving an indication that they are interested / available, but I just could not make out. I had been busy the entire trip and this was my last night in town. So I took a cab and asked him to take me back to the hotel. A little later I just thought of asking the cabbie about options. He took me to some shanty part of the town and asked me to keep the door locked. Some guy approached him and they spoke, the cabbie helped translate and then a girl came out of one of the houses and was standing under the street light. I said fine, I mean at this stage I just had too many things going in my mind. So I paid up and we left. 10 minutes into the ride while chit chatting with the girl I tell her I am put up at the Waterfront hotel and she said she can't come. She just refused and said she is not dressed for the place and is not carrying her ID. She started arguing with the driver, that he should have told this earlier.
Anyway I insisted the driver that we turn around and drop her back. By now I had already made up my mind to forget about the money I had paid, the whole affair was getting murky. But when we went back to drop her, and she told the problem the guys said there is another girl, and she was sitting under the same lamp post about 10 feet away. This was when I thought my luck is back. She was better looking, well dressed and younger than the previous girls. The guys did not ask for any more money and we headed back to the hotel.
All in all she was good, the usual BBBJ, and a few positions. I ordered food an drinks and we spent quite some time chatting too. She stayed for about 4 hrs and then I dropped her at the taxi pickup.
So after the experience I had last time I am wondering if there is a better way to get a good girl in Cebu. I will again be running short of time and would want to have the plan well set before the actual encounter. So at the time I just ask the girl to meet me at a mall or whatever and I can get her back to my hotel.
The damage last time was 2000 P + taxi (I'm not absolutely sure but I think it was around that), and looking in approx the same range. I've already looked through few FR, but since I am not familiar with Cebu and it's ways, just can't make too much sense out of the cryptic talk.
So requesting locals or tourists with experience to share specific contacts and details, or specific guidelines so I don't have to spend days and hours hunting. Please PM me.
Cheers!
GT
Hi,
I am from Bangalore India and my work takes me around the world.
This will be my second trip to Cebu, last time was in August 2014. I stayed at Marco Polo, but the hotel was too far away from all the action so I later switched to the Waterfront.
Cheers!
GT1. Join dateinasia and chat with girls. Plenty of girls would love to come to your room and fuck your brains out if they like you.
I usually keep then number of days and give 1000 pesos per day plus some gifts plus expenses.
2. Plenty of girls hang around the lobby at waterfront. Some are really good looking and well dressed. Talk and negotiate. I have stayed many times at waterfront. Nobody checks I. The. As long as you escort them in nobody bothers you.
3. Take a walk outside and find McDonald's. I have picked some there. They work nearby. After work they hang around there.
4. Take a taxi to Ayala mall. You can meet some girls.
5. Mango street is full of bars. I never went there.
6. Taxi guy probably took you to Colon. Many girls there. Some are [CodeWord902] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902). They usually charge 1000 pesos for foreigners.
Maybe only 300 to 500 for locals. Some gems from provinces can be found there. Do not go alone there at night.
Good Luck!
GlobalTurkey
05-17-15, 23:49
1. Join dateinasia and chat with girls. Plenty of girls would love to come to your room and fuck your brains out if they like you.
Good Luck!Thanks Sammon!
This should get me started.
Cheers!
GT
Pinaypounder
06-10-15, 07:57
Well I fell in love with a non hooker last trip, was totally taken by this woman so much so I was planning marriage in July.
I am an extremely experienced player and I got Karma and I accept that. This woman is known here as Jazz.
In addition to playing me she lives full time with a white man here a fact I kind of figured out but that she lied about yeah yeah walks like a duck talks like a duck!!!!.
In addition 9 days after we fell deeply in love she fucked an American and continued to facade about marrying me.
I never sent a centavo but I spent plenty on gifts then and for this trip.
Luckily a man told me about her being a lying working girl and then she actually confessed to all.
She showed absolutely no remorse or emotion!
Stunning oh well enjoy the photos and be warned.
PP
Well I fell in love with a non hooker last trip, was totally taken by this woman so much so I was planning marriage in July.
I am an extremely experienced player and I got Karma and I accept that. This woman is known here as Jazz.
In addition to playing me she lives full time with a white man here a fact I kind of figured out but that she lied about yeah yeah walks like a duck talks like a duck!!!!.
In addition 9 days after we fell deeply in love she fucked an American and continued to facade about marrying me.
I never sent a centavo but I spent plenty on gifts then and for this trip.
Luckily a man told me about her being a lying working girl and then she actually confessed to all.
She showed absolutely no remorse or emotion!
Stunning oh well enjoy the photos and be warned.
PPAs we get older and have had so many experiences different women different hotels homes familes cities I think some times we get tired of it and want to settle down with just one woman. I have been to the Pi many times met and bedded many women pros and non pros. Hey, you just let your guard down and I understand. It has happened to me too. I met one woman who was one of the "best " I ever met. But thank god I returned to me senses and caught the woman in many lies Wowow. Hey it happens I know the feeling You really expected remorse and some emotion? I am not surprised in the least. I had one who professed to love me more than her life bla bla bla and when I told her I felt that we are not compatible she asked if I had a friend who might be interested in her. ! The pros the bad ones have no remorse at all will lie right to your face. It is about survival. Maybe it is the environment or survive today any way you can. Lie say and do whatever you can do to survive. I have met this mentality quite often in the Philippines. As I mentioned do to you before be happy be very happy you just lost money you could have lost a lot more if you would have stayed with this woman. Live and learn never too late.
Well I fell in love with a non hooker last trip, was totally taken by this woman so much so I was planning marriage in July.
I am an extremely experienced player and I got Karma and I accept that. This woman is known here as Jazz.
In addition to playing me she lives full time with a white man here a fact I kind of figured out but that she lied about yeah yeah walks like a duck talks like a duck!!!!.
In addition 9 days after we fell deeply in love she fucked an American and continued to facade about marrying me.
I never sent a centavo but I spent plenty on gifts then and for this trip.
Luckily a man told me about her being a lying working girl and then she actually confessed to all.
She showed absolutely no remorse or emotion!
Stunning oh well enjoy the photos and be warned.
PPI thought you said Filipinos were so stupid that they couldn't organize a whatever? Looks like you got outplayed. She probably only has a 5th grade education. If you want to call it Karma then call it Karma.
Thanks for the warning.
Wicked Roger
06-11-15, 17:34
If no one has noticed but getting a taxi after arriving at Mactan is getting better ie more organised.
Now I know being organised and not offering the arriving tourist an organised chaos experience of finding a taxi is an odd thing but I was pleasantly surprised as was the cutie with me.
Now there are white taxis (with meters) to the right of the exit. Yellow to the left of the exit.
The white taxis are controlled by marshals and there are plenty. So organised is it that I reminded of HL and BKK! Really that good and I am not the best when waiting for taxis. Very impressed.
And there is a lack (or certainly less) privateers who double charge the unsuspecting tourist.
If no one has noticed but getting a taxi after arriving at Mactan is getting better ie more organised.
Now I know being organised and not offering the arriving tourist an organised chaos experience of finding a taxi is an odd thing but I was pleasantly surprised as was the cutie with me.
Now there are white taxis (with meters) to the right of the exit. Yellow to the left of the exit.
The white taxis are controlled by marshals and there are plenty.No more going up the stairs to the departure area? White taxis have meters. What about the yellow taxis? No meter? Thanks for the input, plan on Cebu visit soon.
If no one has noticed but getting a taxi after arriving at Mactan is getting better ie more organised.
Now I know being organised and not offering the arriving tourist an organised chaos experience of finding a taxi is an odd thing but I was pleasantly surprised as was the cutie with me.
Now there are white taxis (with meters) to the right of the exit. Yellow to the left of the exit.
The white taxis are controlled by marshals and there are plenty. So organised is it that I reminded of HL and BKK! Really that good and I am not the best when waiting for taxis. Very impressed.
And there is a lack (or certainly less) privateers who double charge the unsuspecting tourist.That's right no need to go up to departures anymore. Just go out to the right and you will see the line for white metered taxis. Line may look long but only about ten minutes wait. The taxis dropping off at departures can now just make a right turn down to this taxi line area. Pretty efficient. BTW, I think you can cross over the driveway for seniors and disability line. I am a senior but decided to wait in the youngster line.
Wicked Roger
06-12-15, 11:48
No more going up the stairs to the departure area? White taxis have meters. What about the yellow taxis? No meter? Thanks for the input, plan on Cebu visit soon.To add to DG's FR.
Yellows have meter also but are more expensive. Some tax drivers (but very few in my experience) may try no meter especially if you go outside Cebu centre (ie to Naga, Talisay, Danao etc) or even Marco Polo hotel!! But just take the next one and say you will report them as this does the trick.
I always tip nicely especially f the driver takes short cuts (I know them myself) and what is 100 pesos to people who likely spent a lot more getting there and staying in hotels at 2000/3000+ pesos a night.
See your PMs Mr H.
I thought you said Filipinos were so stupid that they couldn't organize a whatever? Looks like you got outplayed. She probably only has a 5th grade education. If you want to call it Karma then call it Karma.
Thanks for the warning.Actually according to a taxi driver, Mactan outsourced the taxi management to an Indian outfit and they made the changes. They also collect 10 p per drop. That is what I have been told.
Dark Knight1
06-28-15, 13:11
http://cebudailynews.inquirer.net/58696/retiree-nabbed-in-bogo
For five years, 69-year-old Harold Glover has been renting a house in Bogo city, north Cebu.
The American retiree was arrested on Wednesday evening by police who surprised him in his bedroom with his pants down in front of two [CodeWord902] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902) girls.
Glover, a pensioner from Georgia, USA, had been under surveillance for months following reports that he would invite young girls to his rented unit in Solid Homes Subdivision in barangay Taytayan house and pay them to have sex.
Wicked Roger
06-29-15, 00:06
http://cebudailynews.inquirer.net/58696/retiree-nabbed-in-bogo
For five years, 69-year-old Harold Glover has been renting a house in Bogo city, north Cebu.
Glover, a pensioner from Georgia, USA, had been under surveillance for months following reports that he would invite young girls to his rented unit in Solid Homes Subdivision in barangay Taytayan house and pay them to have sex.Again old news and again banged to rights given what the media outlets claim to have been happening at he time of his arrest. Lots of photos on the press and lots of news then but now is just 'fish and chip' paper (old new for those who don't understand the phrase).
The arrest of locals for the same offence or similar tends to be reported but with not as much fanfare or press exposure. In fact am sure there are far more instances of it locally that never get this press coverage. But foreign with possible cash means lots of press coverage.
What about posting some FRs of you time in he Philippines, in Cebu rather than links to old news stories in the press as I see from your posting history you seem not keen on FRs or posting photos of your exploits. Just a thought.
Pinaypounder
06-30-15, 17:22
I thought you said Filipinos were so stupid that they couldn't organize a whatever? Looks like you got outplayed. She probably only has a 5th grade education. If you want to call it Karma then call it Karma.
Thanks for the warning.Lets review shall we. She is University educated, lived with a rich white guy for 12 years in luxury, I got well fucked, never sent a dime, she lost a ticket to Canada, I told her Husband, she is now on the street and I told everyone else. Hmm not sure I got outplayed, I wasn't playing.
But by far she lost allot. Yes perhaps Karma but not for the reasons you think. You must actually be dumber than the typical filipino.
Sorry for you man that must be tough to be so dumb, who ties your shoelaces for you?
PP.
Lets review shall we. She is University educated, lived with a rich white guy for 12 years in luxury, I got well fucked, never sent a dime, she lost a ticket to Canada, I told her Husband, she is now on the street and I told everyone else. Hmm not sure I got outplayed, I wasn't playing.
But by far she lost allot. Yes perhaps Karma but not for the reasons you think. You must actually be dumber than the typical filipino.
Sorry for you man that must be tough to be so dumb, who ties your shoelaces for you?
PP.You didn't lose a dime, she just ripped your heart. You got revenge. Thanks for the review. Take your dinner sir.
Lets review shall we. She is University educated, lived with a rich white guy for 12 years in luxury, I got well fucked, never sent a dime, she lost a ticket to Canada, I told her Husband, she is now on the street and I told everyone else. Hmm not sure I got outplayed, I wasn't playing.
But by far she lost allot. Yes perhaps Karma but not for the reasons you think. You must actually be dumber than the typical filipino.
Sorry for you man that must be tough to be so dumb, who ties your shoelaces for you?
PP.In your original post, you stated that she was a WG, and had lived with a guy but never disclosed that she was currently married. OK, you "never sent a dime", but you previously wrote "I spent plenty on gifts then and for this trip", so you parted with 'plenty' of your hard earned money.
Same girl? Just wondering!
And you told her husband??!!??!! Wow! Nice one!!?? You certainly weren't "playing". I wonder how many members here would be prepared to do that to a girl, even though she had outplayed them (to that point in time)?
Ikksman
Stroker Ace88
07-02-15, 02:48
SNIPPlease stop posting cut and paste articles as some kind of breaking news.
I agree with WR, the news is old, and perhaps instead post a couple of boots-on-the ground field reports if you want to contribute.
Stroker Ace88
07-02-15, 04:43
Lets review shall we. She is University educated, lived with a rich white guy for 12 years in luxury, I got well fucked, never sent a dime, she lost a ticket to Canada, I told her Husband, she is now on the street and I told everyone else. Hmm not sure I got outplayed, I wasn't playing.
But by far she lost allot. Yes perhaps Karma but not for the reasons you think. You must actually be dumber than the typical filipino.
Sorry for you man that must be tough to be so dumb, who ties your shoelaces for you?
PP.Little PP is that you LOL?
Seriously mate I feel for you since you potentially planned to marry her, but as most of the mongers who meet and spend fun time with filipinas know, the monger law of averages will catch up with you at some point in your life.
For every idiot monger out there who promises marriage and uses other unsavory tactics to get Filipinas into bed, they create a Filipina that takes on a more mercenary approach to the three f's of sleeping with foreigners. While many mongers uses the standard three F rules (find, fornicate, forget), they prefer the other three F rules (find, facilitate, fleece).
In no way am I calling you an idiot, far from it. I just use the term as an example of what can happen when a monger plays this game with bad intentions. They leave many Filipinas in the dust with broken hearts and as a result many of them turn mercenary and see foreigners as just another way to cash in, instead of being taken advantage of.
Chances are high your Filipina friend didn't wake up one day and decide to turn mercenary, she was lied to and crushed by a monger in her past so now she plays the game by her rules.
Live and learn, but your story has a happy ending after all. I think you should thank your lucky stars you figured out she was really like while you were still seeing her, instead of finding out after you married her and moved her back to the West. There she would have helped herself to half your crap, and after cleaning you out more than likely taken off.
BrainDrain
07-02-15, 08:53
If no one has noticed but getting a taxi after arriving at Mactan is getting better ie more organised.
Sounds good. Are those overprice vans still available there? Just as a point of clarification so that our fellow mongers don't get taken into one of those white fixed price vans instead of a white taxi.
Wicked Roger
07-03-15, 07:00
Sounds good. Are those overprice vans still available there? Just as a point of clarification so that our fellow mongers don't get taken into one of those white fixed price vans instead of a white taxi.There are a still few of the 'privateers' but just head for the white taxi stand ignore the rest as this is efficient IMHO (well so much better than NAIA T3 where all scams abound LOL.
Am told the developer of the new airport did this, charges the taxi driver a small fee but the drivers know they will get a passenger and no one will try take away their legitimate business.
Wicked Roger
07-03-15, 07:05
Please stop posting cut and paste articles as some kind of breaking news.
I agree with WR, the news is old, and perhaps instead post a couple of boots-on-the ground field reports if you want to contribute.Well said Stroker.
But methinks he has never been here, maybe he is a zealous Christian in disguise trying to put people off Cebu Maybe a Mormon from the temple in the hills? Or someone who works for the Thailand Tourism Board? Or as a one handed typist he can't type much so cuts and pastes a new link LOL.
Am sure in 2 weeks time he will post the story of the US retiree in bed with a 17 year old fully clothed with mom and dad same room etc. Or the Bohol Belgian. I wait a real FR from him but I doubt we will ever see anything of substance.
BrainDrain
07-03-15, 22:38
On my second trip to Cebu back in 2011 I dated a girl that I had met through DIA.
First meeting we went to a IT Park resto, had some drinks and she came back to the hotel. A beautiful BBBJ to completion ensued, no sex and she was gone.
We kept in touch, next visit, meet, club, hotel but no sex.
Next visit, resto and Ayala, chat etc, bed but no sex.
You get the picture.
On my last visit, my farewell Cebu visit to say goodbye to her as my business has changed in Phils she meets me on the first night. BBBJ to completion, no sex and she goes to work.
Second night she arrives back at the hotel with a bottle of wine, we drink and eat, she spends the night dancing in front of the mirror for my benefit. She has obviously made up her mind that it was time. She also knew it was the last time I would see her.
So, it took me four years to finally get to love this beautiful young lady. Patience is finally rewarded.
How patient are other mongers?
BrainDrain
07-03-15, 22:47
Going up the escalators at Ayala and I get a look from a young girl standing with her "mom" near the bottom. Way too young for me. Anyway, enough eye contact had been made so I stopped walking and leaned on the upstairs railing to look around the center. The 'mom' was either the mamasan or a random.
Sure enough the girl comes and stands next to me, she's short and cute. Usual conversations "she's bored just hanging around Ayala". I said she was too young, are you over 18. She says she is 24. I admit I was only at Ayala on this trip to find a girl so I might as well investigate this one. We sit and eat while I interview her and convince myself she is older. Her story checks out and her conversation has enough of a timeline that she is well out of school.
Back to the hotel and she showers. I'm still worried about the age. I ask her for actual ID, She produced a number of items which to me seemed legit and she really was 24, real name etc etc.
Sex & BBBJ were pretty stock standard and she was on her way. SHe was reporting into a minder somewhere.
Anyway, even though she was legit I still didn't enjoy it, just too concerned.
As a general observation the girls working the floor in Ayala do seem to now be orgaised by someone somewhere. Not as much fun as previously.
Make your own adventures.
BD.
Wicked Roger
07-04-15, 12:02
Going up the escalators at Ayala and I get a look from a young girl standing with her "mom" near the bottom. Way too young for me. Anyway, enough eye contact had been made so I stopped walking and leaned on the upstairs railing to look around the center. The 'mom' was either the mamasan or a random.
As a general observation the girls working the floor in Ayala do seem to now be orgaised by someone somewhere. Not as much fun as previously.
Make your own adventures.
BD.The Ayala walkers are well known to those who regularly hang there. Some I see a lot and they walk past Bos Coffee, down to TGIF and Seattle and up the escalators to Bos. Many times. Seen one with men in wheelchairs (she truly is not fussy) and am told she is very cheap (she is also a fugly IMHO). But there are plenty. As BD alluded, you stand and lean over the railings some cutie will approach you.
And likely she was the mama BD as a few sit outside at Seattle and Bos looking for a likely punter.
But then there are the LBs with boob jobs hanging around and have seen some unsuspecting punter meet them. Then the LB returns sometimes quickly when the punter realizes she is really a her despite the looks. Some hang in the coffee shops make lots of noise and at times feel each others false boobs (very loudly).
So buyer beware LOL.
Stroker Ace88
07-08-15, 04:05
On my second trip to Cebu back in 2011 I dated a girl that I had met through DIA.
First meeting we went to a IT Park resto, had some drinks and she came back to the hotel. A beautiful BBBJ to completion ensued, no sex and she was gone.
We kept in touch, next visit, meet, club, hotel but no sex.
Next visit, resto and Ayala, chat etc, bed but no sex.
You get the picture.
On my last visit, my farewell Cebu visit to say goodbye to her as my business has changed in Phils she meets me on the first night. BBBJ to completion, no sex and she goes to work.
Second night she arrives back at the hotel with a bottle of wine, we drink and eat, she spends the night dancing in front of the mirror for my benefit. She has obviously made up her mind that it was time. She also knew it was the last time I would see her.
So, it took me four years to finally get to love this beautiful young lady. Patience is finally rewarded.
How patient are other mongers?BD,
Interesting post. I personally would have "laid" down the law so to speak early on if you were interested in her. Sometimes they will get all maldita and you never see them again, sometimes they think about it for a few days and then allow you to jerjer them, sometimes they pass you off to one of there friends. Either way mate if you wanted her bad enough it's ok to wait "for awhile" but 4 years is way too long for me.
Usually I prefer to build up some kind of relationship online and that helps to remove a lot of the feelings they might have of being a pro. Most of the normal filipinas get all happy when they know I will come to see them and they build it up mentally so when we do meet a large percentage of the time I can get it in on the first or second meeting. Dragging things out only leads to the Filipina holding sex over me like some kind of reward or power play. I don't put up with that crap! That's the same stuff Western women do and it's the reason I go to Asia instead of chasing fat western chubbies, yah a lot of you guys know what I mean and have experienced it for yourself.
Personally when I meet a new Filipina I can kind of tell if things will lead to her riding me like a bronco while I hold a vibrator in her ass as she screams "bastos, oh sheet, ohh sheet!" I give it a couple of days and if I sense she's trying to scam me or squeeze me for pesos without putting out I stop communication with her. If she texts me asking what's wrong I tell her the truth, that I'm looking for a woman that can take good care of me both in life and in bed. That usually gets her in bed or she moves on to find some other stand by.
I always remain polite and never burn the bridges unless she turns out to be a certified 5 alarm scammer. If so I block them and move on. There's far too many other willing Filipinas around to try and play games with one that will not put out.
I have met Filipinas that I just wasn't into sexually for what ever reason. I keep them as friends and meet up from time to time for a meal or whatever when I pass through town. Many times they will ask me if it's ok to bring a friend or two to join us for a bite to eat. This is when things get interesting. Meeting her friends is like going to the casino, sometimes you strike out and sometimes you hit the jackpot, but whatever way it turns out usually I have a good time and it only costs me a few pesos. If you have some game and can make them laugh you can get an offer for one or more of her friends. So just because sparks didn't fly with the first Filipina doesn't mean she can't find you some quality coochie to play with.
It's more fun in the 7107!
Stroker Ace88
07-08-15, 04:41
The Ayala walkers are well known to those who regularly hang there. Some I see a lot and they walk past Bos Coffee, down to TGIF and Seattle and up the escalators to Bos. Many times. Seen one with men in wheelchairs (she truly is not fussy) and am told she is very cheap (she is also a fugly IMHO). But there are plenty. Some of those regulars are very high mileage. I know a few of them that I chat with once in awhile. They told me they used to work in AC and in a few of the smaller local bars.
They tell newbs they're fresh in town from the province and looking for a few pesos. I usually smile when I bump into one of them as they walk around Ayala with a client.
I prefer lower mileage but to each there own.
Ms Account
07-14-15, 07:17
As per other recent Cebu reports, I have been a regular visitor in Cebu over the last few years.
My initial motivation to visit Cebu was a chat mate that I entered into a school sponsorship arrangement with.
This went well for 1 year then I started to develop suspicions about other activities beyond me.
In particular I found her profile on various modelling websites like yomodel.com.
Upon querying her she admitted to multiple underwear photo sessions in hotel rooms but there was nothing beyond that.
I had my doubts and she quoted one German photographer who said he worked for a German fashion magazine and was searching for models for the magazine.
I searched LinkedIn and after validating with her the profile photo was correct, I proved to her he was a network support engineer for a German company in Shanghai.
She assured me none of the photographers asked for anything more than the photo shoot. But given the complete fabricated story of the German photographer I had my doubts.
We ended up finishing our arrangement because I ultimately I did catch her cheating with another sponsor.
The point of this post is not to lament being sucked in by this girl or the merits / demerits of sponsorship.
The point of this post is to raise the prospect of photo modelling sessions as a means of meeting models.
Not that I would ever agree to fabricating a complete lie like the German photographer.
However in researching Cebu photographers in attempting to trip up my ex GF I became addicted to Ossie Hermosisima photos of Cebu models he posts on flickr and 500px.com.
I always see he has photo sessions with western photographers who I assume they pay him for photo sessions.
Funny enough I became fixated on one of his models who I subsequently by good fortune met at Volvo KTV (I won't say her name).
Nearly every trip I see Ossie (but have never introduced myself. He is easy to recognize with beard and glasses) either at SM or last trip I saw him sitting with a western guy at Bo's coffee in Ayala.
Has anyone ever tried the photo modelling session approach? Not that I am assuming it leads to anything more. But Ossie does get some good looking girls.
I might contact Ossie and see whether he does offer photo training sessions.
Wicked Roger
07-14-15, 15:52
We ended up finishing our arrangement because I ultimately I did catch her cheating with another sponsor.
However in researching Cebu photographers in attempting to trip up my ex GF I became addicted to Ossie Hermosisima photos of Cebu models he posts on flickr and 500px.com.
Nearly every trip I see Ossie (but have never introduced myself. He is easy to recognize with beard and glasses) either at SM or last trip I saw him sitting with a western guy at Bo's coffee in Ayala...Ossie is usually hanging around Bos camera in hand etc but doing nothing else except drinking coffee and talking. Many have doubts he is really a photographer LOL as all he does is sit there all day.
What is so unusual about the girl having multiple sponsors, this happens a lot until they find "Mr Right".
I know many girls who do photo shoots, some naked but these are private and are never seen in this country. Some of the "photographers" are basically naughty mongers who fool the ladies like the German you noted.
Most girls here love to pose for photos problem is making them not to the V" sign which is a bad pinay characteristic IMHO.
WestCoast1
07-16-15, 10:41
Upon querying her she admitted to multiple underwear photo sessions in hotel rooms but there was nothing beyond that.
I had my doubts and she quoted one German photographer who said he worked for a German fashion magazine and was searching for models for the magazine.
She assured me none of the photographers asked for anything more than the photo shoot. But given the complete fabricated story of the German photographer I had my doubts.
Nude or semi-nude photography of the model without the sex? Its possible. Its also possible the model might have to pay the photographer.
MSA, I will PM you.
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