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Alexbaron
09-30-12, 21:20
Haus Panthera in Ratingen.

On a Friday in September I visited the Haus Panthera in Ratingen. I was kindly received by Bob the receptionist who explained the club to me. I showered in a big nicely laid out shower and sweet bartender Katja poured me a coke, I felt welcome.

As advertised on their website, all service providers walked around naked, which I liked a lot and aroused me. I sat down with a young German lady introducing herself as Vanessa. She has an angel face and is full bodied with big soft breasts. I asked her what nice things she could do and she replied by asking me what I would like to do with her. I said I would like to cuddle with her, which she immediately started with enthousiasme. We frecnch kissed and cuddled on the couch for a while until I got really horny and then I proposed a roomsession of 30 minutes for 40 euros.

She took me to a large room and we continued kissing and cuddling. We then laid down and I kissed her all over her body ending between her legs giving her cunnilingus and fingering her. She got excited, gave me fellatio nature, then put a condom on me and we had a nice steamy coitus. We kissed a bit after that but she soon got up, cleared the bed and we left the room.

Our roomsession lasted only 20 minutes, but I really enjoyed it. During the rest of my time in the.

Club Vanessa would smile at me and caress or kiss me when we came near, she is a real doll. I then ordered a meal, which goes ΰ la carte in this club with a choice of five dishes, being freshly prepared on demand by the cook. My breaded pork chop with French fries and salad was very tasty!

After this meal I went up to the roof for an hour of sunbathing.

When I came down I got into a jolly conversation with three ladies in the garden. After hearing me out about my preferences Natalie, a slim blond with a perfect body, decided that she was the best match for me and took me upstairs. I was amused by her initiative and let her have her ways.

We French kissed, cuddled, I caressed and kissed her sleek smooth body, which she is very proud of. She then gave me fellatio nature in 69 position, so I could give her cunnilingus. As soon as I had a firm erection she put on a condom and rode me into an orgasm. After that she left me quickly saying that although we overstretched the 30 minutes she would only have me billed 40 euros, which sounded nice. However my watch told me that from the moment we went upstairs only 24 minutes had passed by, so her watch must be a bit fast.

The second session was a bit pornographic and Natalie is a nice sporty lady but I had more erotic connection with angelfaced Vanessa. These two ladies are quite opposite characters with completely different physical structures, which is nice to find in the same club. Haus Panthera is well laid out with luxury furniture. I would do away with the gambling machines as some of the girls were playing and loosing not only their money but also their good mood. The nice sauna should be extended with a Jacuzzi to offer more wellness accommodation. I had a very pleasant afternoon there and will certainly drop in, next time I travel this region.

http://www.hauspanthera.de/

Maxime
10-01-12, 16:59
Thanks for your report, certainly a club on my (long!) list of clubs to visit. We will probably read a report very soon from another punter on this forum.

Simex
10-01-12, 19:31
Place looks very promising, close to my apartment.

Will hope to pop in on Wednesday and add a report on the place shortly.


Thanks for your report, certainly a club on my (long!) list of clubs to visit. We will probably read a report very soon from another punter on this forum.

Jymondor
10-01-12, 19:37
Place looks very promising, close to my apartment.

Will hope to pop in on Wednesday and add a report on the place shortly.Please check whether wi-fi available or not. And how is the phone signal in locker room.

Banana Boi
12-31-12, 10:16
Any updates on this club? It's location near the airport make it an appealing consideration.

Jakob69
12-31-12, 11:51
Unfortunately it's closed these two days. I wanted to go there on 1. 1, and do some sight seeing. They have quite a nice web page, and even some ebonys. I'm very into ebony and now I wonder where I can get a good selection of chocolate on in the eve / night of 1. 1, in around Dusseldorf.

Free Dude
12-31-12, 13:42
Very nice looking club, with the biggest lockers of any club you'll see. Food (a la carte) is very good and the staff is very helpful and friendly. Sessions for 40 for half an hour (same as entry fee) and you pay when you leave. Girl maybe not as pretty and young as in some other clubs, but the service is generally of a high caliber (read: closer to Freude / Babylon / PSR than LR / GT / PHG / Samya / etc). Alina might have been the best session I had this year. It appears they are trying to follow in Babylon's footsteps by encouraging public action; not a bad idea as Babylon has become one of the better clubs in NRW. Only problem they have is attracting enough girls, often about 15 and for the end of year party last Friday the needed to bring in some girls from sister club Blue Note.

Thursday-Saturday is FKK BTW. I will say that in this place I've seen the most 'erotic' fun between the girls. A striptease that turned into a tabledance with a whole lot of candlewax (too bad I was the only guy in the room) and while giving some Romanian a massage, two other girls were doing an oily body to body while making out. No wonder they didn't need to put up the porn. A very relaxed and good atmosphere really.

Banana Boi
12-31-12, 16:20
Thanks FD.

Does anyone know Karina's schedule? I would go to Panthera just to see her.

Jymondor
12-31-12, 17:30
Sessions for 40 for half an hour (same as entry fee) and you pay when you leave.- Website suggest that entry is 55E. Please explain details.

- What is for extra? CIM, anal?


Thursday-Saturday is FKK BTW.Does it mean that Thu, Fri & sat all girls are naked?

Is there wi-fi?

Banana Boi
12-31-12, 17:41
Website home page says 40e entry and girls naked Thurs-Sat.

Not nearly as important to me as the girls but how is the food?

Free Dude
01-01-13, 15:51
Website home page says 40e entry and girls naked Thurs-Sat.

Not nearly as important to me as the girls but how is the food?Very good and made to order. They have a menu with about 10 dishes (I think) and you can eat as often as you want; I personally thought it was better than PSR (which is widely considered to have the best food, in NRW at least).

Jymondor
01-24-13, 16:14
I found a gem here yeaterday.

Romanian Andrea. Started in Germany 3 days ago. Worked in Spain.

Not the stunner but pretty face and good attitude.

Very passionate DFK sessin with body slide, petting, BBBJ, DIGITS of both holes, real DT with gagging, any position but her CG is better that I ever seen. Top of all Anal an any position with no restrictions. Made with her two rooms in the same day and seriously thinking to go there again instead of Aca. 40E entrance + 4-E first session + 80E secon session. It means that Anal there is 40E.

No tips because you pay at the exit like in Babylon (Elsdorf).

Good food, quiet atmosphere. 10-12 girls: 8-10 doable. 3-4 pretty. 2 uglies.

Cozy quiet club.

PS. This is fourth girl in FKK industry I did in Germany who started career in Spain. All of them do Anal. This makes me thing that culo in Spain is more popular destination than pussy.

Banana Boi
01-24-13, 18:32
No tips because you pay at the exit like in Babylon (Elsdorf).How does this work? Do you and the girl report the time and extras to someone when you leave the room?

Hessen Bub
01-24-13, 21:26
How does this work? Do you and the girl report the time and extras to someone when you leave the room?Yep. Same like Schieferhof.

HB

Jymondor
01-25-13, 01:27
How does this work? Do you and the girl report the time and extras to someone when you leave the room?Girl reports. At the exit teckenfrau list you all the girls, times and extras and announces your total.

Trans Atlantic
01-25-13, 04:22
I found a gem here yeaterday.

Romanian Andrea. Started in Germany 3 days ago. Worked in Spain.

Not the stunner but pretty face and good attitude.How old is she and what's her schedule? Will be in NRW in two weeks.

Jymondor
01-25-13, 22:31
How old is she and what's her schedule? Will be in NRW in two weeks.Hard to say. Late 20-s or early 30-s. Not beauty, but pretty. Slim, small breast a bit soft. Shoulder length brown hair. Nothing remarkable - typical girl-next-door. She likes to wear an outfit she has been photographed for website, but you could not see that outfit in FKK days when all girls naked. She often sits in front of bar with her friend Abby who is very slim blond. Give Andrea one chance and you'll get addicted. I visit FKK for about 10 years. Hundreds visits, many hundreds girls. Most of them are better looking and younger than Andrea. But this is first case I gave her my German-travel cell number to text me when she changes club.

You can see girls on duty here: http://hauspanthera.de/index.php/panthera_girls.html

Avoid Jessica. She is sharky, good on the coach but poor performance in the room.

Just returned from there. My third visit within one 11-days tour (6 days + 4 days break + another 5 days). Four sessions with her. It is record. I newer had more than three sessions with the same girl (Sorry, one exception. Golda from Samya, I was with her 5 or 6 times. Unfortunately she disappear. Will be appreciated is somebody tell me where she is. Or retired?).

Today was a party night. DJ played Romanian music that made girls dancing. Eating restaurant quality food cooked for order watching naked girl dancing is sort of fun.

I just cannot understand why 8-10 girls do not work in such cozy clubs like Panthera or Babylon (Elsdorf). I like these clubs but when I want young beauty I had to go to GT or World, which I don't really like or even to Oase, which I hate.

Trans Atlantic
01-27-13, 06:23
Thanks Jymondor. Seriously considering this place. I have a 5-hour connection at DUS on the way to HAM (before heading down to DUS for a weekend). Was thinking of Dolce Vita during the layover due to it's low entry fee and distance from airport. Looks like Haus is is even closer, better food, and comparable entry (current special of 40EUR).

Free Dude
01-27-13, 16:13
FYI Golda from Samya is now in Planet Eden.

Jymondor
01-27-13, 22:06
FYI Golda from Samya is now in Planet Eden.Crap! Originally I was planning Planet Eden, but went to Aca &Panthera because did not want to drive as far under light snow condition. Thanks for info!

Trans Atlantic
02-12-13, 05:50
Hard to say. Late 20-s or early 30-s. Not beauty, but pretty. Slim, small breast a bit soft. Shoulder length brown hair. Nothing remarkable - typical girl-next-door. She likes to wear an outfit she has been photographed for website, but you could not see that outfit in FKK days when all girls naked. She often sits in front of bar with her friend Abby who is very slim blond. Give Andrea one chance and you'll get addicted. I visit FKK for about 10 years. Hundreds visits, many hundreds girls. Most of them are better looking and younger than Andrea. But this is first case I gave her my German-travel cell number to text me when she changes club.Any experience with her friend Aby?

Trans Atlantic
02-14-13, 17:32
Visited Andrea on Thursday early afternoon. Your report is right on the money.

GND looks. Good attitude. 1.68m without heels. CG very good. Took an anal pounding in K9. No extra lube was used. DT was deep but didn't go all the way down to the base.

Aby looks good in the pictures but her teeth is a turn off for me so didn't session with her.

Would go to Haus just to see Andrea given the 40E entrance.

Jymondor
02-15-13, 04:23
Any experience with her friend Aby?I took Aby for one session only because they worked together in Spain. I assumed they had the same teachers. It was wrong. Session with Aby was plain. Nothing to remember.

Jymondor
02-15-13, 04:33
Would go to Haus just to see Andrea given the 40E entrance.Don't forget to eat something there. Dinner in German restaurant will cost about the same. Food quality in Panthera is comparable with restaurant quality. So it would be no loss of 40 E.

Next thing. If you go there just to see one girl and don't want to stay you DON'T have to pay the entrance fee. There is a waiting room left of reception. You name the girls and wait for her there. Then go straight to the room with the shower inside. I am not sure what price structure is here. Just ask. I assume it is 60E for first 1/2 hr.

Trans Atlantic
02-15-13, 12:53
Don't forget to eat something there. Dinner in German restaurant will cost about the same. Food quality in Panthera is comparable with restaurant quality. So it would be no loss of 40 E.

Next thing. If you go there just to see one girl and don't want to stay you DON'T have to pay the entrance fee. There is a waiting room left of reception. You name the girls and wait for her there. Then go straight to the room with the shower inside. I am not sure what price structure is here. Just ask. I assume it is 60E for first 1/2 hr.Thanks for the tip. I think Andrea was telling me about that but I didn't understand.

Banana Boi
02-15-13, 22:33
Next thing. If you go there just to see one girl and don't want to stay you DON'T have to pay the entrance fee. There is a waiting room left of reception. You name the girls and wait for her there. Then go straight to the room with the shower inside. I am not sure what price structure is here. Just ask. I assume it is 60E for first 1/2 hr.Maybe this is the same at FKK Penelope? When I was there I saw guys walk in, not pay entrance, the girl comes up to the guy who does not shower, and they go to a room together.

Trans Atlantic
02-17-13, 02:29
Went back to Haus after my FKK wife in Aca was AWOL. Got there around midnight and since the kitchen closed at 10PM, I saw no point paying regular fee since I was there only to see Andrea for a quick fix before leaving Dusseldorf the following morning.

The apartment option is 70EUR per half hour and you pay upfront (savings of 10EUR if you only want 30 minutes). Extras are paid directly to the girl.

She made more effort to DT since I just saw her 48 hours ago. Last time I gave her an anal pounding in K9, this time it was in missionary. This is the girl to see if anal is your thing.

Jymondor
03-29-13, 23:24
40€ Promotion is over. But 1/2 hr is still 40€.

Thursday is FKK day, so all girls naked. About 30 girls on duty. Most of them doable. Service level is high as usually. I believe that payment scheme when you pay at the reception before exit is a good practice. All club with this payment scheme I know provide high level of service: Bernds, Babylon (Elsdorf) , Panthera Hause, DV Raubach.

Food is still good, but no changes in menu. All the same. Free beer. One girls complain that many men coming there to eat and drink without tacking girls to the room. Sounds like a deal if you can drink 10 beers or more and eat two times.

Trans Atlantic
03-30-13, 05:36
40€ Promotion is over. But 1/2 hr is still 40€.

Thursday is FKK day, so all girls naked. About 30 girls on duty. Most of them doable. Service level is high as usually. I believe that payment scheme when you pay at the reception before exit is a good practice. All club with this payment scheme I know provide high level of service: Bernds, Babylon (Elsdorf) , Panthera Hause, DV Raubach.

Food is still good, but no changes in menu. All the same. Free beer. One girls complain that many men coming there to eat and drink without tacking girls to the room. Sounds like a deal if you can drink 10 beers or more and eat two times.Any girls worth mentioning other than Andrea?

Jymondor
04-08-13, 21:23
Any girls worth mentioning other than Andrea?After two sessions I can recommend Jackie. She has erotic-massage background. Excellent choice for last session in the venue when it is hard to come. Good technique of breast, ass, and pussy rubbing. Excellent body-slide, skilled handjob. Nothing special in BBBJ, but she uses her hands better than any girl mouth. FS is OK, takes it in any position. DIGITS allowed if gently. No needs to write about DFK. This is mandatory for all the girls in Panthera house.

Both session I finished CIM with support of HJ. CIM is +25E here.

http://www.hauspanthera.de/pantheragirls/jacky-2709.html

It is very easy to recognize her by the photos. And normally she is wearing the same bikini-bra set.

Breadman
04-08-13, 21:30
It is very easy to recognize her by the photos. And normally she is wearing the same bikini-bra set.They say the camera add's a few pounds but damb she looks a little thick around everything. Did you survive the bodyslide without any broken bones?

Free Dude
04-08-13, 21:39
Delia and Aby are pretty good service wise; as is Sabrina, but I didn't quite have the chemistry with her. Angela. Just check the chick on the pole. Is reported to have improved a great deal: only hear good things about her nowadays. Polish Laura is supposed to be awesome, but almost impossible to get to. Turkish Su has a great presence and must be one of the best this year for me.

Jymondor
04-09-13, 23:12
Delia and Aby are pretty good service wise; as is Sabrina, but I didn't quite have the chemistry with her. Angela. Just check the chick on the pole. Is reported to have improved a great deal: only hear good things about her nowadays. Polish Laura is supposed to be awesome, but almost impossible to get to. Turkish Su has a great presence and must be one of the best this year for me.Confirm good service from Delia, but cannot confirm Aby. Plain session, nothing remarkable.

Jymondor
04-09-13, 23:15
They say the camera add's a few pounds but damb she looks a little thick around everything. Did you survive the bodyslide without any broken bones?I would say just opposite. She should lose about 5 lbs to have perfect body. She is OK but has a bit fat in the waste area. The only problem she does not speak even basic English. But eager to please, so words are unnecessary.

EastGoing
04-10-13, 04:44
I'm in Krakow now, since I can't fall asleep, it's hard and nearly hopeless trying to go mongering here (I already posted in the dedicated thread the first waste of time and money of the Polish trip) , as promised in Dusseldorf thread, I post about my experience in Panthera.

When I arrived a Romanian chubbywise girl hooked me up by entrance to show me the club, the conversation was not fluid. I sat in the bar area with her beside, I told her I was going to eat and maybe later we might have met, but I was just trying politely to get rid of her. 4-5 girls around and 3 men, youngest could nearly be my father. Then came a girl I had seen for a second glancing when I entered, she sat and she was the only one not trying to "contact" me, not even a glimpse. She was by far the best looking, tall, slim, I was hoping nobody would take her away while I had still the "guide" stuck on me. Amazingly, It was the guide herself to put me in touch with Angela and leave us alone, probably guessing at what direction my dick was pointing. All this happened in less than 10 mins. We had dinner, more than 45 mins, because I had already ordered and she did it eventually. Food was ok, but not that great, also only one course allowed, I thought at least 2 of the 5 listed could be had. Then we moved upstairs. One hour (wherever I go I take 30mins sessions) of fun, jokes, sex, laughters, light kissing, cuddling, various positions, etc. All simply great, attitude and performances, really difficult to get to find such a match to such an extent, unless it was what somebody calls "chemistry" (from her side, from mine, obviously liking her since I chose her, the only defects, negligible, I could find in the overall were the small boobs, which I still prefer to fake ones anyway). Even after the session, she looked for me, made sure I got a taxi and waited with me for it to come, another good 10 mins plus, I appreciated it a lot, I'm not a regular, I'll never be, I was a first timer and normally after the deed is done girls fly to other preys or anyway abandon me to my destiny, that works everywhere.

To be honest, I remembered a name starting by "A" with great reports in this thread, and I was sure it was her, now I'm finding out that was Andrea! Funny, because I told her she was mentioned with great reports in forums, I didn't specify which ones (I only read and post here) , and she said she knew it! Customers informed her, because she doesn't bother to read forums. Well, if she behaves like that with every customer she's really great! I even"threatened" (if she doesn't accept some extraordinary request, I was joking) her to write a bad report, and she said that one only bad out of so many good ones wouldn't be a problem. Maybe in German forums they mention her? I would have liked her to ask me what's my nick or where do I post, but she didn't even want me to tell her. If one of you goes with her, try to mention, I'd be curious to know if she remembers me. Ok, I clarify I didn't fall in love and I don't expect such a pro to remember me, especially if she behaves like that with everyone, but if she doesn't, well, It'll be a satisfaction!

Finally, just for info and not to criticize a fellow member which is by far more expert than me, a newbie to Germany: Jimondor, I don't know about DFK compulsory, I didn't ask and I wasn't offered, since I don't care because I don't fancy left-overs snowballing, but entrance was 40 euros and in a restaurant I wouldn't pay 40 euros for a dish of pasta.

This is it. I had already declared somewhere that I want to take a proper holiday in Dusseldorf and surroundings, well, I'll make sure Angela is not off in that period.

EG

Trans Atlantic
04-11-13, 23:39
Went around 2200. Kitchen closes at the time but I was able to get in my order. This place is dead for a Thurs night. The girls working there just aren't hot.

Entrance is still 40EUR (collect 50EUR and refund 10EUR when key is returned). Not sure why Jymondor reported otherwise.

Yakob
04-22-13, 23:28
Dance into May.

With choice of Panthera May Queen.

Dear Friends of Panthera,

Welding we did our tradition of cult events continue to live and plan did next next unforgettable party in our Adult and wellness retreats.

Date: Tuesday 30. 4.2013

We dance and celebrate with boisterous girls. It you expect to May 30 pretty girls rollicking live music with Rolf-Beat, mood, oldies and more-

There is a dark beer on tap, as always, excellent gourmet buffet erotic live shows with our girls at the center and last but not least, a raffle with free tickets, free rooms and others squirming surprise entry on this day: € 55

We look forward to you

Your house Panthera

BigBuddy69
05-11-13, 12:51
I've been here Thursday 2 may (FKK day).

Not many girls, maybe 15-20, maybe because of the party tanz an mai two days before and of the 1st of may.

Cosy place, nice ladies but not many stunners.

1h with Denisa, really nice lady, very slim, little breasts, looks a litlle "goth-emo" with her make up. FK (not very deep) , OWO and sex my eyes in her eyes.

1h with Silvia, a stunner, perfect natural breasts, killer smile, but not as GFE as Denisa. Doesn't like to kiss, OWO, classic sex. Wanted to go with me again later, because of the fat german guys she'd rather avoid.

Loooong social time with Denisa, then she was called to the reception and went to the apartement with an idiot who slapped her.

Social time again with her, and one hour again, the girl is a sweetheart.

I'll come back again because the ladies have a nice attitude, even if they are not as good looking as the GT girls.

Yakob
05-18-13, 13:19
Haus Panthera is having DK Sunny on 31 Mai 2013 to spin the decks and get the party loving fuckers into the place.

See flyer attached.

Njoy

Free Dude
05-18-13, 14:51
DJ Sunny is there every Friday and Saturday; the 31st is his 'birthday' party with live music as well; price will be 55 instead of 40. If you're planning to go next week (25th) , you might want to think again as there is a party of the Belgian forum.

Travelforfun
05-24-13, 18:00
Can anyone please guide how to get there using public transport from dusseldorf.

Koosje12
05-24-13, 18:21
Can anyone please guide how to get there using public transport from dusseldorf.Http://www.vrr.de/en/index.html

You can enter the from address (Dόsseldorf HbF) and the To address as "Robert-Zapp-Str. 2a 40880 Ratingen"

Jymondor
05-26-13, 00:50
I am looking redesigned girls' profiles with new pictures. Look at this: http://www.hauspanthera.de/pantheragirls/karina-3249.html

It says "tabulos". Can be AO?

Maxime
05-26-13, 15:45
I am looking redesigned girls' profiles with new pictures. Look at this:

http://www.hauspanthera.de/pantheragirls/karina-3249.html

It says "tabulos". Can be AO?I was many times in Haus Panthera (one of the best clubs regarding girls services in NRW IMHO) but AO (BB) is commonly not part of the service offering of girls in this club. If you look for that, go to FKK Alinea, Arabella, Venus, Grimbert, La Luna, etc.

Jymondor
05-26-13, 19:16
I was many times in Haus Panthera (one of the best clubs regarding girls services in NRW IMHO) but AO (BB) is commonly not part of the service offering of girls in this club. If you look for that, go to FKK Alinea, Arabella, Venus, Grimbert, La Luna, etc.Thanks, I know all these AO clubs. According their slang "tabulos" means "AO". So that's why I asked.

And I agree that service in Panthera is one the best in NRW.

Bobz12
06-05-13, 00:39
I have been to Dusseldorf a couple of times before (and clubs LR, DV) but never to Haus Panthera. Some of the great reports have tempted me to try it out. I will have some time this weekend, but will have to use public transport / taxi. It looks like there is a direct bus (752) from Dusseldorf but it is pretty infrequent (about hourly) and I prefer not to wonder around unknown and quiet areas after jumping off a bus if I can help it. I was thinking of taking S6 to ratingen Ost and then a Taxi from there. Will there likely be taxis at the station? Will they be able to call a Taxi to pick me up when I want to leave? I would be happy to hear other suggestions or experiences with public transport+taxi?

Thanks in advance.

BigBuddy69
06-06-13, 06:21
Use bahn. De or vrr. De it's the best way to know the different possibilities.

EastGoing
06-07-13, 02:22
Bobz12,

1) yes, there are some taxis out of Ost station, anyway not a long journey, I got there by bus (sorry, I don't remember the number). The bus stop is not far from Panthera, few minutes walking. The area is not quiet, is dead (at least the only time I was there)! Get yourself a little map or some notes, so you won't need to ask for directions, in the unlikely case you met someone. Last bus to leave from there is quite early, surely before 10 pm, maybe even 9, unless schedules change in summer.

2) yes, they'll call a taxi for you. From there to Dusseldorf airport it will be some 20 euros

Jymondor
06-08-13, 20:55
Original policies:
- Pay 50€ at entrance.
- Do not give money to the girls.
- At the exit Theke looks into your card, name all the girls you sessioned with, lists all extras, and says how much in total. Each 1/2 hr = 40€
- Pay the balance.
- Theke returns 10€. I assume this is some sort of security deposit.

Current policies.
- Pay 50€ at entrance.
- Pay to the girls after each session. 1/2 hr = 50€. Each next 1/2 hr = 50€ as well. CIM = 25€. Anal = 50 €
- At the exit Theke returns 10€.

Free Dude
06-08-13, 21:00
The 10 euro back at exit has been policy for a while now, as has been paying girls directly after the deed. Are you sure prices have gone up to 50 for half an hour (it used to be 40) , since I haven't heard anything about it on the forums that have 10's of report a week on Panthera. Just a couple of weeks ago I had a girl tell me quite sincerely, that I was overpaying her and that an hour was only 60 (not quite sure what happened there).

Maxime
06-08-13, 21:50
Original policies:

- Pay 50€ at entrance.

- Do not give money to the girls.

- At the exit Theke looks into your card, name all the girls you sessioned with, lists all extras, and says how much in total. Each 1/2 hr = 40€

- Pay the balance.

- Theke returns 10€. I assume this is some sort of security deposit.

Current policies.

- Pay 50€ at entrance.

- Pay to the girls after each session. 1/2 hr = 50€. Each next 1/2 hr = 50€ as well. CIM = 25€. Anal = 50 €

- At the exit Theke returns 10€.Current policy is indeed 50 Euro entrance, that includes 10 euro deposit for the locker key. If / when you return the key when you leave, you get 10 Euro's deposit back, so nett entrance fee is Euro 40.

Room / girl prices are NOT changed, and still Euro 40 for each half hour. CIM / CIF is +25 Euro.

Jymondor
06-08-13, 21:53
Current policy is indeed 50 Euro entrance, that includes 10 euro deposit for the locker key. If / when you return the key when you leave, you get 10 Euro's deposit back, so nett entrance fee is Euro 40.

Room / girl prices are NOT changed, and still Euro 40 for each half hour. CIM / CIF is +25 Euro.Ok. Now I understand what this 10 Euro back means. Are you sure that 1/2 hr is still 40 Euro? When you last time checked it?

Theke told me that policy changed. I asked how much is one room she said 50 Euro. But that might apply to 50Euros I supposed to pay at the entrance. Her English wasn't good. So it might be confusion. Andrea accepted 100E for 1/2 hr + anal. Sure she did.

Free Dude
06-09-13, 10:04
I think that is the explanation. I think it is most likely the price for anal is 50 (like it is in pretty much all of NRW; also in Aca if I remember correctly, and there half an our is also 40) and that she accepted 10 euro as a tip. I actually heard that one of the reasons to switch to paying directly after sessions, was that girls would be more likely to get tipped. Probably not true, but I do think this set up leads to more tips.

Maxime
06-09-13, 21:20
Ok. Now I understand what this 10 Euro back means. Are you sure that 1/2 hr is still 40 Euro? When you last time checked it?Yes, few days ago I paid the 40 euro / half hour price.


I think that is the explanation. I think it is most likely the price for anal is 50 (like it is in pretty much all of NRW; also in Aca if I remember correctly, and there half an our is also 40) and that she accepted 10 euro as a tip. I actually heard that one of the reasons to switch to paying directly after sessions, was that girls would be more likely to get tipped. Probably not true, but I do think this set up leads to more tips.This is certainly true: in the old system, all 3-4 sessions were added together and you paid the amount (less 10 euro) to the theke. Now you pay directly to the girl, and when it was a good session, tipping 5-15 euro is very common to do now (depending on the session price including extras).

Trans Atlantic
06-10-13, 02:58
I think that is the explanation. I think it is most likely the price for anal is 50 (like it is in pretty much all of NRW; also in Aca if I remember correctly, and there half an our is also 40) and that she accepted 10 euro as a tip. I actually heard that one of the reasons to switch to paying directly after sessions, was that girls would be more likely to get tipped. Probably not true, but I do think this set up leads to more tips.I think that is the very reason. Really no opportunity to tip with the old system.

Vicero
06-10-13, 13:11
Yes, few days ago I paid the 40 euro / half hour price.

This is certainly true: in the old system, all 3-4 sessions were added together and you paid the amount (less 10 euro) to the theke. Now you pay directly to the girl, and when it was a good session, tipping 5-15 euro is very common to do now (depending on the session price including extras).Very good prices, I should really check.

Bobz12
06-14-13, 23:51
Bobz12,

1) yes, there are some taxis out of Ost station, anyway not a long journey, I got there by bus (sorry, I don't remember the number). The bus stop is not far from Panthera, few minutes walking. The area is not quiet, is dead (at least the only time I was there)! Get yourself a little map or some notes, so you won't need to ask for directions, in the unlikely case you met someone. Last bus to leave from there is quite early, surely before 10 pm, maybe even 9, unless schedules change in summer.

2) yes, they'll call a taxi for you. From there to Dusseldorf airport it will be some 20 eurosThanks. I looked into busses but they seemed to be only once an hour. There were lots of Taxis at Ratingen Ost station. Taxi to Haus Panthera was 11 euros.

Entrance was 40 + 10 deposit.

Food was ok, not too special. Some beer is included and other beer / drinks are reasonable price.

Atmosphere inside clubs and rooms were quite nice, it was bigger than I expected.

Prices were 40/30mins.

Extras: 25 CIM / COF / Finger in Ass. 40 Anal.

The ratio of wasn't good when I went (they had even run out of robes) but managed to session with a couple of girls.

Yakob
06-30-13, 02:13
Indeed it is the Anistaysia of ex Magnum and Ex Dolce Vita (its a beautiful life).

She still like the R and B and get upset with DJ Sunny playing only what he like.

Alles Girls are Nackt on Thursdays, Fridays and Saturdays.

Cool club as always and the girls really do their best to make you are having a good time.

The girls keep asking me when I come back to see them. LOL.

Jcrb26
07-06-13, 09:21
Planning a visit here on Sunday. I have read the entire forum and noteworthy girls appear to be Anastasia, Andrea, Denisa and Angela? Posts seem to lead away from Abby, but those were a while ago. Any up to date suggestions? I will post with my findings after I return from my trip there on Sunday.

Cheers

BigBuddy69
07-06-13, 18:06
Laura, Jacky, Lorena and Sabrina have good reviews.

Trans Atlantic
07-07-13, 03:44
Planning a visit here on Sunday. I have read the entire forum and noteworthy girls appear to be Anastasia, Andrea, Denisa and Angela? Posts seem to lead away from Abby, but those were a while ago. Any up to date suggestions? I will post with my findings after I return from my trip there on Sunday.

CheersCheck Panthera's website before you show up. They updated it daily around noon to show who is working (however it doesn't tell you when they actually start).

Andrea should be working Sundays and she starts early since she sleeps there. I think she only takes either Monday or Tuesday off. I was thinking of Panthera this weekend to check out Anastasia but she wasn't listed as working for the past three days. Maybe she still moonlights at Magnum. Aby is gone. She was listed at Haus Dupont but she seems be delisted from there as well.

However, just to let you know, Panthera is not known for looks. They are known for service. So if you are coming to Panthera after a day at GT, you might be utterly disappointed if you want young hard bodies.

Take Andrea for instance. She teases you outside the room, DFKs, truly deep throats, takes anal balls deep in any position other than CG. However her tits are a bit saggy. Her looks are GnD.

If you can't read German, you might want to download a dictionary to your smartphone. Their a la carte menu is in German and the only water they serve is sparkling.

Jcrb26
07-07-13, 10:49
Thanks for the advice Trans Atlantic and BigBuddy69. I've got a short list of who is recommended and the Google translator app downloaded. Will post my findings in the forum throughout the day so I don't forget the details, but as I'm moderated they may take a while to show up.

Cheers

Banana Boi
07-07-13, 10:50
Planning a visit here on Sunday. I have read the entire forum and noteworthy girls appear to be Anastasia, Andrea, Denisa and Angela? Posts seem to lead away from Abby, but those were a while ago. Any up to date suggestions? I will post with my findings after I return from my trip there on Sunday.

SAnastasia looks like my type but not working today. I will look again tomorrow to see if she's there.

Panthera regulars. What time do most of the girls start?

Jcrb26
07-07-13, 13:51
Anastasia looks like my type but not working today. I will look again tomorrow to see if she's there.

Panthera regulars. What time do most of the girls start?I'd like to know when more girls are expected to show up as well. Got here around 12:30 and there were about 10-12 girls visible. Like a previous poster I saw a tall relatively attractive brunette in passing as the front desk lady showed me around. After getting oriented and while exploring the second floor about to go up to the terrace the brunette appeared again. Went to the terrace with her and found out she was the famed Andrea. Pretty face, breasts looked much bigger with the bra on, and she had a tiny bit around the tummy and as a previous poster said, if she lost jusy a little bit she would look fantastic. Service was as described, very friendly, first time having a public BJ and sex without a roof. Would repeat.

As I have been forewarned the ladies on the whole are not samya or GT level in looks, but quite a few gnd types that could definitely me going. Got my eyes set on a little blond probably in her late 20s and a dark blond twig with an intriguing gnd look.

Cheers

Trans Atlantic
07-08-13, 03:45
Do you spend time with anybody else other than Andrea?

Banana Boi
07-08-13, 08:57
I think the excellent Panthera service killed Jcrb! LOL

Anastasia isn't on schedule today either. :(

edit - oh jcrb is moderated so we may just be waiting for his posts to be approved.

Trans Atlantic
07-12-13, 20:33
Looks like Anastasia is gone from the roster.

Trans Atlantic
07-19-13, 19:45
Looks like Anastasia is gone from the roster.Looks like she is back on the roster and present today.

Maxime
07-20-13, 15:27
Looks like she is back on the roster and present today.Yes she is / was (had a visual.)

Tjohoo
07-24-13, 22:41
Booring question that could lead up to a report!

I am planning a visit tomorrow Thursday.

Do Pathera have a parking lot or do I park on the road outside?

T

Sportsman
07-24-13, 22:50
Booring question that could lead up to a report!

I am planning a visit tomorrow Thursday.

Do Pathera have a parking lot or do I park on the road outside?

TThe club has about 10-15 parking spots along the building under cover. But they can all filled up at times.

Free Dude
07-24-13, 22:51
They have a parking lot behind the club, the entry is next to the entry for the club propper.

Trans Atlantic
08-17-13, 05:36
Panthera updated the girls' photos on the website. Some girls now show their face.

Travelforfun
08-17-13, 09:51
Panthera updated the girls' photos on the website. Some girls now show their face.Holy cow. That girls Morena is a stunner. Hope she's there in Oct.

Jymondor
08-17-13, 19:56
Holy cow. That girls Morena is a stunner. Hope she's there in Oct.I wouldn'd say "stunner". Photographer is good. She really looks nice, but not enough to be called "a stunner". I would agree that she was the best looking girls of the Saturday's lineup. I was planning to take her to the room. We spoke together with her and her friend Maria http://www.hauspanthera.de/pantheragirls/maria-3408.html.. It was my last session of the tour so I had to chose, and suddenly I preferred Maria because of much better personality than Morena. Next time I maybe will test Morena, but session with Maria was one of the best ever. Smart girl, good talker, passionate kisser. Beautiful face but overweight. A little bit more fat than normally acceptable by myself. But she touched me by her open smile and warm conversations. During the sex she stimulated her clitoris and eventually squirted just before my orgasm. Her squirt was really hot, I sensed it by my skin. It was more than GFE.

First session with black girl Shelly. If it was for example in Acapulco or Samia I would say that session was excellent. But Panthera's service standards are much higher. So I'd rather say that it was good session.

Andrea was second. Nothing new. As usually decent "drei Lφcher" session, Real PSE.

All in all I got impression that lineup improved since my last visit in June. It is still more GND than "optikfickers" club. But by the stability of service it is on the same level as Shifergof and Babylon (Elsdorf).

Maxime
08-21-13, 20:46
Holy cow. That girls Morena is a stunner. Hope she's there in Oct.Indeed she looks great, but Morena has the weakest service of the Panthera girls currently present (not real DFK, etc). She is nice girl, but service is on GT / Palace level.


All in all I got impression that lineup improved since my last visit in June. It is still more GND than "optikfickers" club. But by the stability of service it is on the same level as Shifergof and Babylon (Elsdorf).Indeed, more GND (even Morena) , better looking than most Shieferhof girls, but in service on the same level (in looks and service comparable to to Babylon and Freude).

Travelforfun
08-23-13, 16:41
Indeed she looks great, but Morena has the weakest service of the Panthera girls currently present (not real DFK, etc). She is nice girl, but service is on GT / Palace level.

Indeed, more GND (even Morena) , better looking than most Shieferhof girls, but in service on the same level (in looks and service comparable to to Babylon and Freude).Ahhh so maybe she's just very photogenic. Anycase if the service levels is not good would'nt try her. Or maybe I would. You know how we men are. Slaves of their own lust. When the blood rushes down the brain gets weaker.

Can't wait to be in germany now. Samya / Pantera and my old fav Bluenote (only is nicole is present) on the cards. 40 more agonizing days

Jymondor
08-23-13, 22:32
Indeed, more GND (even Morena) , better looking than most Shieferhof girls, but in service on the same level (in looks and service comparable to to Babylon and Freude).I haven't been in Shieferhof for ages. But Panthera is becoming my favorite club in NRW. I miss only pool an Jacuzzi there.

Yakob
08-26-13, 05:55
I haven't been in Shieferhof for ages. But Panthera is becoming my favorite club in NRW. I miss only pool an Jacuzzi there.Panthera is a great club. The girls are really up for a party especially when the DJ us playing whatever he wants and never what the audience listening wants. You make requests and he just ignores it doing what he likes.

There is a fair amount of public sex in the play rooms. Girls are not shy to do it in the main area or the open TV room.

Anastasia is there and she is a good looker. She has some new pictures up if her on the website.

Flori is another interesting one. Red head slim and great to chat to.

Maxime
08-26-13, 21:22
I haven't been in Shieferhof for ages. But Panthera is becoming my favorite club in NRW. I miss only pool an Jacuzzi there.Agree, it seems a Jacuzzi is in the planning, but will not be this year I am afraid.

Tjohoo
08-27-13, 06:16
Agree, it seems a Jacuzzi is in the planning, but will not be this year I am afraid.There is acually a jazucci in Panthera. In one of the rooms. So just ask a girl if she is up for it and "dive" into the bubbles.

T

Jymondor
08-27-13, 14:40
There is acually a jazucci in Panthera. In one of the rooms. So just ask a girl if she is up for it and "dive" into the bubbles.

TI know. I was there with Andrea. Normally it is empty, you should fill it up like at home. And it is small for erotic playing. There is no real bed in this room. Massage table only. So after Jacuzzi we had to jump into other room for FS. So virtually this Jacuzzi is useless.

Free Dude
08-28-13, 08:31
For your info: Morena just went on Holiday. Plenty of good service options here though; I remember my last visit when I didn't really feel that compelled to take anyone to the room at first, only to have a to do list of 4/5 girls when I left (and that's besides the 4 girls I actually took to a room).

Maxime
08-28-13, 22:25
I assume most readers know, but to be sure: here you can find an actual list of girls present: http://www.hauspanthera.de/pantheragirls/pantheragirls.html

It is normally updated around noon (CET) every day.

Piggsy
09-01-13, 14:21
Is there wifi available in the club?

Is it a good place to hang out for a while and enjoy a few beers and make a day of it?

Thanks,

Piggsy

Trans Atlantic
09-02-13, 04:02
Is there wifi available in the club?

Is it a good place to hang out for a while and enjoy a few beers and make a day of it?

Thanks,

PiggsyNo WLAN when I was there in March.

BigBuddy69
09-02-13, 17:21
Also not in April / May. I was there last week and I forgot to ask (report to come) , but the girls are so nice and so friendly that you won't need it to spend the time.

Mastery1
09-02-13, 17:59
Is there wifi available in the club?

Is it a good place to hang out for a while and enjoy a few beers and make a day of it?

Thanks,

PiggsyMaybe not a place to hang 10 hours, but no problem to hang there a couple of hours with free beer and cooked food. No WiFi, I was there this summer.

Piggsy
09-03-13, 14:31
Fly in earlyish and can't check in to an airport hotel til 15:00.

So I recon I could almost walk there at opening and while away a few hours. Hopefully someone there will talk to me in English otherwise, Its nude day! So I am happy to spend my 1st day in Germany checking out the girls.

Trans Atlantic
09-04-13, 03:22
Fly in earlyish and can't check in to an airport hotel til 15:00.

So I recon I could almost walk there at opening and while away a few hours. Hopefully someone there will talk to me in English otherwise, Its nude day! So I am happy to spend my 1st day in Germany checking out the girls.I usually arrive on Thursdays noon after a flight from the US and stay for 3-4 hours. At that time, I've only seen five girls present and 3 guys.

Yakob
09-04-13, 07:12
I usually arrive on Thursdays noon after a flight from the US and stay for 3-4 hours. At that time, I've only seen five girls present and 3 guys.This is my experience too. Even on the party days there maybe at around midday say 6-8 girls but they are more into getting ready mode and relaxing than stalking customers. Line up does no pick up until later afternoon. You may find the odd gem earlier in the day but I have found that I save my loads at Haus Panthera to later in the day and get my naps and wellness done earlier in the visit.

Have fun

BigBuddy69
09-05-13, 14:36
Was there 6 days ago (Friday FKK tag). I arrived around 1 pm, many girls were available but breakfast was over so I had to wait until lunch. First two sessions with Elena, one in the little kino and one on the rooftop. Sweet girl, charming face and smile, a little chubby, a little too much hair on her belly and on her legs. The BJ is maybe a little clumsy, but she's really sweet and she seems to enjoy herself during sex. For 40 and 45 minutes I paid 40 and 60 euros (she didn"t ask anything). We kissed a lot before each session.

Next session with Flori. I was exhausted and she kickstarted me with an oil massage with her hands and her (perfect) breast. Good sex. 1h in the big kino near the showers. 80 €. Funny girl, she acts sometimes a little strange.

Then, with Evelina. She looks a little south american. Best looking girl this day (Paula was busy with the same man all day.). Cute face, nice ass, hot boobs and big nipples, they look like strawberries! Always smiling, always laughing. Started the blowjob in the outdoor garden outside the bar while I was talking to a friend. Sweet girl, nice sex. More energetic than Elena. 40 minutes in the big kino. 40 euros. She didn"t really like the voyeurs who where circling around the room.

Last session with redhead Aura. Queen of the pole dance (her sweet ass moving in all directions) , she gave me a lap dance looking right in my eyes, so my cock woke up, then she took it between her legs and started to masturbate me while I was at the bar! Good BJ, good sex (in a room, she doesn't like it in public). Her face is average but her body is hot if you like very slim pale girls. Nicknamed me "anaconda".40 € for 35-40 minutes.

All the girls have been very sweet to me, even those I didn't take to a room. Too bad Paula was "kidnapped" by the same man all day, I only saw her in the showers. Veronika is really nice and looks very good, even if she's taller than me!

Very nice place if you're not obsessed by the looks, I'll be back.

Two negative points : the wait for the meals was loooooong and there is only water with bubbles !

The line-up was maybe a little light, only 15 girls, the new girls like Morena, Maria, etc. And favorites like Denisa (my sweetheart) were on holidays.

Trans Atlantic
09-05-13, 16:26
The meals are made to order and yes it is unusual they don't serve still water. Next time I might stop by the Real on Am Sandbach and pickup a bottle first.

Yakob
09-11-13, 07:49
DJ Sunny is there every Friday and Saturday; the 31st is his 'birthday' party with live music as well; price will be 55 instead of 40.Good day Free Dude,

I did make it to the chef's birthday party I June not to DJ Sunny's birthday party. There was a Turkish theme and they went into the food arrangement too. Entrance was indeed 55 euro and not 40 euro as normal. I paid 60 euro but received 5 euro back on leaving as deposit for my locker key.

I had some weird conversations with Flori the skinny red haired girl. I think she was after my ass.

First went with Anastasia the Polen. Great one hour session in the room and we spent like 2.5 hours couch time prior.

I booked also booked Alina the Romanian for public sex in the TV room where she sucked, we fucked and I ended by coming into her mouth after taking the condom off.

Morena the Romanian is cute but not really my type, bad teeth.

Yakob
09-16-13, 22:22
The meals are made to order and yes it is unusual they don't serve still water. Next time I might stop by the Real on Am Sandbach and pickup a bottle first.To the right hand side of the bar just before the aluminium joinery door to the outdoor area is a tray that contains bottled water that is self service.

Yakob
09-16-13, 22:24
Some of Anastasia Polen's newer pictures.

Yakob
10-06-13, 21:44
Panthera's Oktoberfest season flyer.

RomeoDeInject
10-08-13, 03:18
Anyone had any experience with Shila? Planning on having a go with her and will report back anyway, but if anyone has any info on her it would be appreciated.

Maxime
10-11-13, 16:39
Anyone had any experience with Shila? Planning on having a go with her and will report back anyway, but if anyone has any info on her it would be appreciated.Her looks are (very) below par for me, but she is very nice (and I met her many times already). I know many men who had more than great sessions with her. If it is your taste, I think you will have a very good time!

Jymondor
10-11-13, 22:29
Anyone had any experience with Shila? Planning on having a go with her and will report back anyway, but if anyone has any info on her it would be appreciated.I did once. No complains. But her pictures on website are better than she really looks. And please take to attention that service level at Panthera is higher than industry average. If I get same service say in Samya or Acapulco I would say that session was great. But according Panthera's standard Shila is OK but not better than other girls.

BTW I'll be at Panthera tomorrow (Saturday, Oct 12). If somebody needs a company to kill time between the session please PM.

Trans Atlantic
10-12-13, 00:02
In-room service and food at Panthera is better than industry average but unfortunately the girls' looks are only average.

RomeoDeInject
10-19-13, 18:37
=Jymondor; 1482703]I did once. No complains. But her pictures on website are better than she really looks. And please take to attention that service level at Panthera is higher than industry average. If I get same service say in Samya or Acapulco I would say that session was great. But according Panthera's standard Shila is OK but not better than other girls.I didn't bother going to Panthera in the end. I had emailed them and DV to find out when the girls I was looking for would be working so I wouldn't waste my time, but they didn't bother to respond. Instead I went to Hinter Dem Bahndamn. You can see my report here http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?184-Germany

Trans Atlantic
10-22-13, 18:57
Looks like their site updated with new pictures. There also seem to be additional girls listed.

Yakob
10-24-13, 00:35
See attached flyer that Haus Panthera is having duo Halloween parties on Saturday 26 and Thursday 31 October 2013. So good, that they had to celebrate it twice with different offerings at each event to get the mongers in.

Nille Copenhagen
10-24-13, 08:57
See attached flyer that Haus Panthera is having duo Halloween parties on Saturday 26 and Thursday 31 October 2013. So good, that they had to celebrate it twice with different offerings at each event to get the mongers in.This weekend should I try Haus Panthera or ACA both have Halloween parties on Saturday?

That are people advising?

Maxime
10-25-13, 09:43
This weekend should I try Haus Panthera or ACA both have Halloween parties on Saturday?

That are people advising?If you like many beautiful girls, with only few offer good service (and no one offers any decent presales) , go to ACA. If you like smaller setting, with not so many girls (20-25) that offer great pre-sales and ultimate GFE and PSE on the room, go Panthera!

Nille Copenhagen
10-25-13, 11:21
If you like many beautiful girls, with only few offer good service (and no one offers any decent presales) , go to ACA. If you like smaller setting, with not so many girls (20-25) that offer great pre-sales and ultimate GFE and PSE on the room, go Panthera!Thanks.

I might try both Panthera and ACA in the evening.

PussyLiccker
10-25-13, 13:47
If you like many beautiful girls, with only few offer good service (and no one offers any decent presales) , go to ACA. If you like smaller setting, with not so many girls (20-25) that offer great pre-sales and ultimate GFE and PSE on the room, go Panthera!But, what is the ratio of beauties / line-up at Panthera vs ACA? You did not mention if there are some beauties at Panthera among the 20-25 girls. I believe it's the same management, correct me if I'm wrong. Pre-sales can be had at ACA also, it's just the fact that it looks like a walmart sized shopping for mongerers in the big room. You have to keep in mind, the girls cannot approach or entice you unless you are sitting at the couch. It's all in the rules of the club and there are cameras in the ceiling watching, so it makes it make it a bit difficult to guage how they will be in the room. It's definitely polar opposite of FRA clubs. Foolproof way is to see if the girl is busy, and if you are attracted to her, go with her, high chance she offers great service. First timers will like it or hate it. I wasn't comfortable there the first time, but after amazing sessions (kissing seams the norm) , I've stuck to ACA.

Banana Boi
11-02-13, 14:16
Looking for some clubs other than my usual day time clubs. Which club would have the most girls in the day between Panthera, LR, and Magnum?

Nille Copenhagen
11-02-13, 14:25
Looking for some clubs other than my usual day time clubs. Which club would have the most girls in the day between Panthera, LR, and Magnum?I would say LR!

PussyLiccker
11-02-13, 14:33
Looking for some clubs other than my usual day time clubs. Which club would have the most girls in the day between Panthera, LR, and Magnum?I've only been to LR and Mag of the three. Forget about going to Mag on daytime, there is not much there but Gumbas during the day, and they raised the entry to 60e from what HB said. I think LR daytime line-up is usually on par with night time. Maybe there might be 1 or 2 girls that may show up at night that might be outstanding, but depending on the day, the night time is more or less the same. LR is boring as fuck outside the room as there is a small line-up like DV and you've seen em all within the first couple of hours. I haven't been to Panthera, but if you haven't been there I'm sure it's worth going to check out during the day time. Why don't you try VV if you have room for it? I thought GT was a good day and night club. What I usually do it do GT up to 8, and then head out to ACA right after and I see maximum girls. And don't forget about F39, the maximum line-up during the day. PHG, I would say starts to rock around 5, so not so much a day club since girls are usually dead until the bar starts to rock during later at night. Would you say Sixsens is a day club?

Banana Boi
11-02-13, 14:55
Panthera is on the list and the decision will be made when I check the Panthera lineup in the morning.

Everyone is saying VV sucks now. If I can work out a weekday visit and get a free Sunday entry I will consider VV.

Thanks for the info on LR. I may lean towards LR if it's basically the same girls as night shift. You know I'm a club hopper so unless I'm in a room with a girl 2 hours is a long time for me in any club. LOL.

I would consider Sixsens a good day club Sun-Thu. Since it closes at 1 am most girls are there early. The 40 euro entry special before 2 pm makes the long drive more bearable. LOL.

PHG is like Samya, the girls start coming around 3-4 pm.

Trans Atlantic
11-02-13, 15:20
Panthera is on the list and the decision will be made when I check the Panthera lineup in the morning.

Everyone is saying VV sucks now. If I can work out a weekday visit and get a free Sunday entry I will consider VV.

Thanks for the info on LR. I may lean towards LR if it's basically the same girls as night shift. You know I'm a club hopper so unless I'm in a room with a girl 2 hours is a long time for me in any club. LOL.

I would consider Sixsens a good day club Sun-Thu. Since it closes at 1 am most girls are there early. The 40 euro entry special before 2 pm makes the long drive more bearable. LOL.

PHG is like Samya, the girls start coming around 3-4 pm.Most girls I've seen at Panthera around 1300-1400 on a Thursday is 5 or 6 (been there 3 separate times). You can be sure Andrea will be one of them. Never been to LR during the day; always went after GT.

Nille Copenhagen
11-02-13, 16:15
Forget about going to Mag on daytime, there is not much there but Gumbas during the day, and they raised the entry to 60e from what HB said. I think LR daytime line-up is usually on par with night time.I would recom LR for daytime, I been there many times during the day, from 2pm. Lot of German guys go there during daytime when they can seek away from home or from work.

Magnum entry is now 60€ confirmed! I was there last week the food is great (including Gumbas, steak ect.)

There are some Russian girls there one of them was all over me last time, during dinner, in the room and after the room, she danced and stripped for me publicly and allowed me nasty things, LOL.

Nille Copenhagen
11-02-13, 16:23
I would consider Sixsens a good day club Sun-Thu. Since it closes at 1 am most girls are there early. The 40 euro entry special before 2 pm makes the long drive more bearable. LOL.Haha the extra fuel consumption and time forward and back is probably more than 20€

So 40€ entrance fee is not a bargain. Please try out VV; I was there in August and was not impressed, VV was one of my favorite club 2 year ago!

LR is recom, probably you have a discount card from GT, if not I can give you one, I have plenty of then, LOL.

Cheers

PussyLiccker
11-02-13, 18:06
Haha the extra fuel consumption and time forward and back is probably more than 20€

So 40€ entrance fee is not a bargain. Please try out VV; I was there in August and was not impressed, VV was one of my favorite club 2 year ago!

LR is recom, probably you have a discount card from GT, if not I can give you one, I have plenty of then, LOL.

Cheers.Yeah, Sixsens is pretty far out there. I think 20e savings is better than nothing on top of the fuel / time to get there. Any clubs are going to take some fuel and time to get there, although Sinxsens is pretty far out. It makes even more sense if the daytime line-up doesn't differ much from night time. I'm just curious how VV is right now. There is a stack of LR 10e discount cards by the shower shoes at GT as I got a stack of them as they can be quite useless unless you use them a certain way. I think maximum saving you can get is to use the 10e discount at LR, and when you leave for GT from there, ask for discount to GT, and you can always come back to LR later at night. So you basically pay 50e for LR entry, and pay GT entry of 35e if you go from LR. That's 35e off from what you would pay if you pay full for both clubs. That all depends on if the front desk lady finds any problems with that although the ladies change shifts so they won't know the difference. I've done it in the past with a 5e discount card, and went from LR to GT. I think I'll try LR until 4, take off for GT, and come back at late night from GT to see if more girls are there.

Nille, I'm curious to learn more about the Russian girls. I don't recall any on my last visits to Magnum. Wondering if the Russian girls are worth it to visit, is it possible they have worked at GT?

Jymondor
11-02-13, 20:08
Nille, I'm curious to learn more about the Russian girls. I don't recall any on my last visits to Magnum. Wondering if the Russian girls are worth it to visit, is it possible they have worked at GT?Lena at Panhera is not a stunner but service is excellent. She is Ukrainian but I cannot see a difference between Russian and Ukrainian girls.

Banana Boi
11-02-13, 20:23
Most girls I've seen at Panthera around 1300-1400 on a Thursday is 5 or 6 (been there 3 separate times). You can be sure Andrea will be one of them.

Thanks TA. 5-6 girls on a Thursday afternoon doesn't interest me.


So you basically pay 50e for LR entry, and pay GT entry of 35e if you go from LR.Oh I didn't realize I can get 25 euro off GT entry AFTER going to LR. Thought it only worked the other way around. So with the 10 euro card at LR, I can go LR then GT for 85 euro.

PL, if you have the desire to stay out late after GT there is always ByNight with their 5 euro entry.


Magnum entry is now 60€ confirmed! I was there last week the food is great (including Gumbas, steak ect.)

I know some time during my trip I will end up at Magnum, just to get a good meal or three.


Please try out VV; I was there in August and was not impressed,

Wait, what?! You didn't like it in August but want me to go? I'm dragging you with me. lol

PussyLiccker
11-02-13, 22:35
Oh I didn't realize I can get 25 euro off GT entry AFTER going to LR. Thought it only worked the other way around. So with the 10 euro card at LR, I can go LR then GT for 85 euro.

PL, if you have the desire to stay out late after GT there is always ByNight with their 5 euro entry.That has worked for me one time, and the front desk girl will not remember or care from what I've noticed. Although I'd rather start out with GT than go to LR.

I've been to ByNight after PHG one time before flying out since I had nothing better to do. I got in for free through PHG, not sure if that 5e entry applies now because the club told me entry to there was free. Anyway, there was 3 or 4 girls I was not interested in transfered over there. Two of them came with couple guys they met at PHG. The other ones just came to hang out I guess, and didn't seam interested in business. Then there were the girls that worked at BN, and one petite blond girl was the most interesting one, or possibly the only one that has been working there. If I was at PHG, I would not have picked her out, so my conclusion is that don't expect much there after leaving PHG.

Nille Copenhagen
11-02-13, 23:07
Wait, what?! You didn't like it in August but want me to go? I'm dragging you with me. lolWell things and girls might have changed now, LOL at least you get a free Sunday pass. I'll would like to go their just for a haircut, LOL

I was not impress but managed to find a few stunner. It was not like the old days.

Nille Copenhagen
11-02-13, 23:23
That has worked for me one time, and the front desk girl will not remember or care from what I've noticed. Although I'd rather start out with GT than go to LR.LR to GT combo with discount also works, and after GT you get back to LR for free, LOL.

Better deal than going to PHG Bynight.

Banana Boi
11-02-13, 23:24
The 5 euro entry to ByNight only applies if you go straight to ByNight without paying 60 euro to PHG. You also stay in your street clothes so it's worth 5 euro to check out if you're around at 3 or 4 am. You can also make arrangements with your regular PHG girls to meet you at ByNight saving 55 euro in entry fees. They will grab a guy to walk with them in to ByNight to meet you.

I was at ByNight once after PHG closed at 3 am and there was a very cute petite blonde sitting at the bar. She smiled but all I could do was walk past her to my PHG girl who was waiting for me.

PussyLiccker
11-02-13, 23:30
I was at ByNight once after PHG closed at 3 am and there was a very cute petite blonde sitting at the bar. She smiled but all I could do was walk past her to my PHG girl who was waiting for me.That's the one I was with, shoulder length blond hair. Pretty cheery, dancing to the beats. Not my type, but only one available for business at the time. Actually.

That's a great idea!!! I'm gonna do it with a girl if there are any repeats there and not go in the club, just visit the ones that I want to see at BN. The only thing that sucks is that 50/half if you want extended and the club rules about the percentage going to the club if you continuously stay in the room. 5e entrance isn't bad to see if there are any girls there coming out of PHG and etc, I'll keep that in mind.

Nille Copenhagen
11-03-13, 00:13
I was at ByNight once after PHG closed at 3 am and there was a very cute petite blonde sitting at the bar. She smiled but all I could do was walk past her to my PHG girl who was waiting for me.Why don't you take both girls, LOL.

We know you are a PHG fan, for me PHG is so so, not the great line up as in GT and ACA, and I only goes to PHG on party nights. So ByNight is even worse?

Trans Atlantic
11-03-13, 01:36
Oh I didn't realize I can get 25 euro off GT entry AFTER going to LR. Thought it only worked the other way around. So with the 10 euro card at LR, I can go LR then GT for 85 euro.Yes. The same day discount exist in both directions and they do check the date.

Creature2
11-06-13, 08:32
I ventured Haus Panthera on Tuesday night. My virgin visit to Panthera. This place was in my mind for a couple of years but couldn't do it, even it is close to the airport.

Line up was weak in a Tuesday night. The receptionist lady told there are 13 girls and this goes till Thursday. During weekend, there is expected 25-30 girls. Still not much to fulfill a decent size small club.

The premises is new and clean. The a la carte menu was an additional value to the whole package.

The entrance is 40 Euro. But firts you pay 50 Euro while check-in. While checking out and returning the key, you receive 10 Euro back.

The line up was weak and the look department of the girls were mediocre. I have been approched by Bianca (RO) with broken teeth and Rosa (RO) with a missing front teeth.

Ended up doing the a session with Sabrina. Body nice, face ok. Service super. DFK, deep throat etc. She tried to upsell for an hour when but my schwantz was almost dead after a hard gang bang session previously had in Essen, so I declined. She says previously, she worked in Club Privee, Reus, Spain.

There were not much other girls that I wanted to sample so I call it a night. My total time spent in the club was 3 hours.

All in all, this is a small relaxing place, the girls are very kind and their service is guaranteed by the management. The menu a la carte and free of charge tap beer are also bonuses compared to other clubs around. But personnally, I was expecting a better line-up. Next time, I won't return on a week day, this place should be a weekend club. I met an Irish punter, he says he ventured all the clubs around such as ACA, LR etc and he prefers Panthera because of the relaxing atmosphere.

I guess the size of the club is similar to Dolce Vita and much smaller than Living Room. If you are looking for a club close to Dusseldorf, (regarding the line-up) I guess Living Room or maybe Magnum is a better bet, for a weekday trip.

Banana Boi
11-09-13, 08:55
We know you are a PHG fan, for me PHG is so so, not the great line up as in GT and ACA, and I only goes to PHG on party nights. So ByNight is even worse?I never see any of your posts due to the delay.

So far this trip the best lineup I have seen from best to worst is ACA, DV, GT, Samya, PHG, World, and Oase in last by a mile. To be fair World and Oase were on a Tuesday night.

The PHG line up was weaker than in the past. Like ACA, the lineup changes so fast at PHG you just never know what gem you will find there on any given week.

ByNight is very small. Maybe the size of GT'smain room. I saw 1 very do-able blonde and another that was ok. It only has a few girls and whichever girl wanting to go over from PHG. I assume they can still go over with the walkway from PHG to ByNight blocked now.

Creature2
11-09-13, 13:31
After a weaker and leaner line-up on Tuesday night, I wanted to give a second to Haus Panthera. I believe this establishment deserve this, because they give a warranty for the service of the girls. If you want to read my previous impressions, scroll a bit down.

Thursday is the one of the three FKK day in Haus Panthera. It was noon time and I wasn't sure I will find enough girl in the club to fullfill my desire. I had only a couple of hours before catching my flight back home and this club seemed to me one of the closest to DUS airport. Dolce Vita and Living Room might be a longer ride as I will have to rely to airport taxis, this time. Maybe Magnum was also close to airport but didn't want to jeopardize a three hour stay with a huge club building, chasing the hidden girls all those three flooreys.

I called Haus Panthera. Lovely and friendly receptionist Elina answered. She said there is now 6 girl by noon time, but till 16pm, there will be 26 girls in the club. This was a go for me. With a business colleague of mine, we jumped to a cab from DUS airport. Cab ride takes 10 min to reach the Haus and taxi fare is 16 Euro, one way.

When we entered the club, we saw that most girls were just entering also. There were some with towels, there were others still showering or having their make-ups. We take our time in the club. I had a strategy to see first the available line-up and had first round at 2 pm and the second shot by 4 pm, the last one for the road.

My buddy in crime was a newby. He was attarcted by the concept and also the line-up. He initiated at once to the girls (or I don't see it, maybe he was approached) but he sat next to a girl he likes and started the action. His first girl was Ayleen, a big Roumanian, also not bad for my taste, I also like some of the big girls. But for my part, I wanted to wait and see a little bit that some more girls come to the lounge room. There were two black girls, ass well, but they were sitting apart from the madding crowd.

My buddy returned from the session. He was happy thanks to the service he received.

At 1 pm, there were now more girls in the Haus and I should say I was totaly convinced this time. There were no real stunners but enough pretty and good looking girls to fulfill any hunger. I suddenly realize a German looking girl. I was in the bar, she came to the bar to order a drink. I didn't wait and initiate. She was a lovely, good looking, pretty German girl from Heidelberg, but she lives in Essen. She says her name is Michelle and she came to this club only three days a week. So I must be lucky.

Michelle.

I invited her to the couch in order to get to know her better, I was not really convinced that she might give the same service level of other Panthera girls. She is a stunner compared to the other girls of the Haus. In my book, she is an 8, 5. I asked whether she likes kissing. She says yes but didn't show me how she does it on the couch. She asked I want to go to the room. I have some doubts, she seemed a bit distant but I ended up accepting the offer.

When in the room, she was totaly sweet, friendly, responsive and sensual. My GFE radars were faulty, maybe. The session started with mutual caressing and kissing. And it gone with this flow. Her body was simply tight. She says she likes doggy style. I reply her she have to wait a little bit. I wanted to see her eyes and kiss her lips, tongue, nipples first while cowgirl and also in mish. She was also attentive to my needs, very soft BBBJ, lick the balls and the shaft. DATY always available. Now, we came to doggy style. Now, I know she likes it. Till now, Michelle was a GFE, but in doggy, she started to be a PSE. I really appreciated her performance in doggy style, but I need spoon position to finish, she obliged. All in all, Michelle was a nice session and I can highly recommend her. I can repeat her any day, any time, if I can catch her again in this club. Maybe this is the one of the three German girls seen and touched previously by other fellow forum member, described in some previous report.

After the session during the recovery, I ordered a wiener schnitzel. This was more delicious than the raamsteak I had sampled the day before. Next time I am in Panthera, I will order again this meal, cook is doing it real tasty. But I am not sure I can have both lunch and dinner if I stay longer in the Haus, every time you order a meal, they take note of your locker number (I should check with the receptionist girl). I believe this is a day club and it won't be that fun to have a long stay in the club, especially when you are close to Dusseldorf and you may always bounce to another nite time club like Living Room or Magnum. They are open till late night or maybe till next morning.

My buddy also was interested in Michelle and he initiated and booked her for half an hour.

Now there are more good looking girls in the lounge. Sabrina, my previous day girl also came and greet me. She is also a repeat for me, for next visits. I have now a to do list in my mind. I want to book Andrea (primarily) or at least Claudia or at least Sabrina. But for instance, none of them were available. My lunch arrived, I consumed it while viewing Andrea's return from zimmer, than shower than booking immediately by another local punter, still I was eating my delicious Wiener Schnitzel. After I had washed my teeth, I saw Andrea going for a room. This means she will be absent at least 30 more minutes. I searched Claaudia, she was also over the couch with an old punter. Sabrina was vanished as well. My buddy in crime also went from the seesion and he was ready to depart for the airport. I can't jeopardize to miss the flight. We asked for a taxi and checked-out.

Even I had a planned time schedule, I couldn't fire the second round. This is not because there were not enough girls, but there were much more local customers after 2 pm and they know the best girls and they keep them busy. I can't complain, I had a very nice session and also had still a stiff dick for the road (I had consumed a pill just after the first round, with thinking having a second round, but this didn't happen and I had still a hard on. LOL when boarding the plane.

VERDICT: I believe Haus Panthera is a day club and it is better to go there during weekends. There are a few good looking girls but it is enough. This place is known by the service quality of the girls. On first visit, my other options (Club Neby, Luder Lounge or Sauna Aplerbeck) were not that good, I suppose. And I think Panthera is also decent for a DUS airport layover or stopover for a couple of hours, but not night time, only day time.

Actually, my performance was not that brilliant for two visit to the same club. Two visits and only two session, not a decent performance, but this is due to the tight schedule (Shame on me! I had similar performance when I was two days in Globe / Zurich, but this was not because of time restraint, because of the cost of each session which is 210 and 140 SFR if I recall well). Now, I have a short list of shopping for next time I am in Haus Panthera, not any sooner than December. ACA also will be on my radar, they have awesome line-up according to recent reports. ACA is steady to keeping a strong line-up during winter time November, December and February, March, I can rely on the line-up but can't rely on the service level and non approch policy is also a minus for me.

RempNobbes
11-09-13, 13:40
Hi all,

Today at around 4pm I will be in Panthera. If you see my black PorscheTurbo S at the parking lot I am definately there. I let you know my report latest tomorrow. See also my new report from yesterday visit Samya Cologne.

Have fun.

RempNobbes
11-10-13, 00:21
I just came back from Panthera. There were around 20 girls. For a Saturday evening not much and even the same girls like from three month ago. Was there from 5pm to 11pm. For 40 Euro, you have to pay 50 at the reception and get 10 Euro back when you leave and put back the key. There are two main meals included. I made it with the Schnitzel and the chicken wings. Everything is good quality and clean. All the stuff is very motivated and friendly. Around 8 pm the dJ Sunny is starting hie program and it is getting louder. But also the party is starting and the girls starts to dance. I was just thinking of leaving home when a made a second Sauna and Sara came in. She started to blow direct and we ended in the relax room, open for all, just near the Sauna on the first floor. I got a more then BJ mind were happy. What else could you imagine. Eating a second time and driving home, very relaxed. That is Germany.

Tomorrow I will let you know about my Sunday visit at Magnum in Erkrath.

Have fun in the rest of the world. I am going to sleep now.

Best from RN.

Maxime
11-10-13, 19:54
Maybe this is the one of the three German girls seen and touched previously by other fellow forum member, described in some previous report.

After the session during the recovery, I ordered a wiener schnitzel. This was more delicious than the raamsteak I had sampled the day before. Next time I am in Panthera, I will order again this meal, cook is doing it real tasty. But I am not sure I can have both lunch and dinner if I stay longer in the Haus, every time you order a meal, they take note of your locker number (I should check with the receptionist girl).Good you gave it a second chance. Pity we missed each other, I could have given you some pointers.

But great you catched Michelle: she is the only German girl in any club who offers this GFE / PSE combi IMHO (most German girls offer good technical performance, but are very distant, not intimate). Mostly I only go with non-German girls, but Michelle is a repeat girl for sure!

At every visit you can order a maximum of two warm meals between 15:00 and 23:00 (when the kitchen is open) , regardless if you stay in the club for 1 or 12 hours.

Jymondor
11-10-13, 22:03
just near the Sauna on the first floor.I didn't catch it. Sauna is on the second floor there. Or you use German numbering: 2-nd floor = 1st Obergeshosse.

Yakob
11-10-13, 22:09
I didn't catch it. Sauna is on the second floor there. Or you use German numbering: 2-nd floor = 1st Obergeshosse.Jymondor,

The sauna location in Haus Panthera is on the first floor, that is, one level above the ground floor, meaning you have to walk up the stairs to the level where the rooms are.

It is just the one sauna and is adjacent to the foot baths and the relax sleeping room where all the loungers are.

Haus Panthera has its good points and bad points.

Trans Atlantic
11-11-13, 02:29
At every visit you can order a maximum of two warm meals between 15:00 and 23:00 (when the kitchen is open) , regardless if you stay in the club for 1 or 12 hours.Just want to point out that I've had lunch on the a la carte menu there around 1330.

Rain City
11-27-13, 21:10
Visited Panthera on Tuesday. Arrived around 1:30 pm. Ladies were taking shower, putting make up, and so on. They must have just arrived also. Around 20 of them and the line up was rather weak. There were a few ladies in the 40s or older. They had leftover foof from breakfast in the bar. Asked when I can order the hot meal and was told around 2:15 pm as kitchen opens at 2 pm. The quality of food was really good, freshly prepared. After lunch, walked around and tried to find someone to spend time with. It wasn't my day, as I ended up leaving the club after another meal without going to the room.

I'm sure a part of it is because it was Tuesday, a slow day. But the facility was really nice, and it was comfortable to stay with plenty of places to sit down and talk to the ladies. Food was excellent also.

I'd like to see if weekends are any better. If so, I'd be willing to give another shot.

Masayama
11-28-13, 01:03
I didn't catch it. Sauna is on the second floor there. Or you use German numbering: 2-nd floor = 1st Obergeshosse.Then I assume you use American English. The "erste Obergeschoss" (where the indoor sauna, bar and dining room at PSR are located) corresponds to the first floor in British English, while the reception and wardrobe are at the ground floor ("Erdegeschoss").

Creature2
12-04-13, 05:28
Will there any fellow member attending the Nikolaus Party in the Haus, this weekend. I intend to attend the party on the 7th, Saturday. Are Haus Panthera parties any good, I guess a fellow member attended a Hallowen party and claimed it is good. Maybe more girls and more fun, who knows.

Ed Setra
12-04-13, 14:47
This was on my radar for a while and on a slack Monday I decided to take the bus out from Dusseldorf to check it out. It gets good write-ups on occasion here and on some of the German sites. More known for a girl-next-door venue than anything as far as I could see.

You can get there several ways by public transport (always ending with a bus ride, though). It is not far from the city or the airport. Routings are suggested by Bahn website or the VRR site too. I took a bus all the way from Dusseldorf Hbf, and it took about 50 minutes door to door, including a 5 minute walk after the bus ride. Directions for drivers are on http://www.hauspanthera.de/

The website is kept pretty much up to date and they list the girls that are present each day.

A chef arrives at about 2PM and a short la carte menu is available after that time and is included in the €40 admission (they charge €50 and you get €10 back when you return the key). The food was good. Soft drinks, coffee and beer is included. Sessions are €40/30 minutes with the usual extra charges.

The welcome is friendly and multilingual, so no problems if you don't speak German. The receptionist brought me on a guided tour of the facility, which was a nice touch, and explained about the rooms and food etc. It was a bit quiet when I arrived (about 1PM) so after changing and a shower I grabbed a coffee and took it all in.

There were about 12 girls (and some older than girls too) present when I arrived, with more appearing as the day went on. Only a few of guys present too at any one time while I was there, but it might get busier in the evenings or on other days.

Girl-next-door types sums it up all right when I was there, with some quite attractive to me, mostly Bulgarian / Romanian with a few others too. Couch action seems to be the norm here (at least away from the bar area) with the girls happy to initiate service with nice kissing and a blow job to get you interested. There is a small bed behind a curtain in the kino area also where some had their entire session. Several rooms are available upstairs if you prefer.

I found the place a bit quiet while I was there with not many punters or girls (but it was a Monday daytime) and so a good place to relax. The girls were friendly though and not at all sharkish. But they are there to earn as you would expect and are gently offering their services. But they are happy to sit with you and chat for a while.

I had two separate sessions (Corina and Andrea, both have pictures on the website) , warming up for a while on the couch before finishing upstairs in a room. Both were good company and enjoyable sessions. I was probably with each of them for an hour, but was charged for room-time only, €40 each. YMMV, but as I said it was quiet while I was there and they appeared happy to while away the time with me on the couch. I probably spent longer with Andrea. Mind you, she didn't say much for most of the time on the couch, her mouth was full.

I shall return.

Breadman
12-04-13, 21:57
, but was charged"but was charged" sounds like you pay on your way out of the club. Is that the case in this club?

Ed Setra
12-05-13, 11:07
"but was charged" sounds like you pay on your way out of the club. Is that the case in this club?No Breadman, I meant that the girls did not expect more from me than the room time fee of €40 per 30 minutes. You pay the girl after each session, not the house. That can be in the room if you have your cash with you or downstairs at the lockers, or even at the reception desk if you need change.

Maxime
12-05-13, 19:25
"but was charged" sounds like you pay on your way out of the club. Is that the case in this club?
No Breadman, I meant that the girls did not expect more from me than the room time fee of €40 per 30 minutes. You pay the girl after each session, not the house. That can be in the room if you have your cash with you or downstairs at the lockers, or even at the reception desk if you need change.They changed this a few months ago, before you paid for all sessions to the house when leaving, but now you pay the girl after each session.

Breadman
12-05-13, 20:44
I was probably with each of them for an hour, but was charged for room-time only, €40 each. YMMV, but as I said it was quiet while I was there and they appeared happy to while away the time with me on the couch. I probably spent longer with Andrea. Mind you, she didn't say much for most of the time on the couch, her mouth was full.
No Breadman, I meant that the girls did not expect more from me than the room time fee of €40 per 30 minutes. You pay the girl after each session, not the house. That can be in the room if you have your cash with you or downstairs at the lockers, or even at the reception desk if you need change.Well, if it was you who pulled the 40 euro's out of your wallet without asking the girls what you owed, then I'd say its more a case of "getting away" with an hours worth of service than "not being charged". All depends on how long the couch BJ went on for. Been there, done that so I'm not making judgement just saying to other guys not to expect the same. Its that grey area in a kino or couch action, at what time does the 'free' service start counting towards the room time.

Sammi123
12-13-13, 23:04
Just spent a very nice evening at Haus Panthera. My first visit. I had spent the day at FKK Mondial, and thought I'd finish at Panthera.

I liked the atmosphere of this club. The madam manning the front desk was very nice. I didn't like that I had to go to her every time I needed a towel, but that was a minor quibble. My only real complaint for the whole evening was how long it took (about 40 minutes) from time I placed my order from the ala carte menu until I received my meal. My advice is to order your food right at the beginning of dinner or very late.

Line up in the club is a far cry from the likes of Golden Time, but the club was not overcrowded, and even though there aren't tons of lookers on the roster, there were enough that I was more than satisfied. And the service was excellent.

I had three excellent / passionated GFE sessions with three very nice ladies. They are all on the website:

1. Nicole (Bulgarian brunette)

2. Michelle (German blonde). Highly recommended if you like deep throat action.

3. Christina (Romania)

I was more than satisfied and I plan to repeat.

Tommyseville
12-18-13, 06:49
Haus Panthera, Ratingen.

Robert-Zapp-Straίe 2, 40880 Ratingen, Germany.

+49 2102 7006336.

http://www.hauspanthera.de/

Continued from Freude 39 earlier:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2608-FKK-Club-Freudenbergstr-39&p=1503856&viewfull=1#post1503856

And Club Neby:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1100-Other-FKK-Clubs&p=1503847&viewfull=1#post1503847

Sorry for the delay in posting gents; I got busy at work. Final installment of my NRW trip in late Nov 2013:

Friday evening, November 2013.

I decided to bail out of Freude because the lineup started dwindling-I had planned to end the evening at Haus Panthera anyway, and the issue was only when to leave. HP had been recommended by many folks here so I planned to make it the final club of the day.

GETTING THERE.

HP is really close to the DUS airport-I'd imagine it would be only a 10-12 EUR taxi ride from the airport proper. With my BMW's satnav I got there straightaway, but I imagine without nav I'd be lost in the very industrial neighborhood, filled with truckers loading up from whatever light industrial / warehouse facility nearby. I parked in the covered parking stalls and buzzed in.

TOUR.

The entry looks like a reception counter for a business-the older but still hot thekefrau took 50EUR, promising 10EUR back upon return of the locker key, and provided me a robe and towel. I changed in the small locker room and made my way around the curving corridor to the main room. Didn't see any money lockers, so I kept my cash in the regular locker. Seemed pretty safe, as the locker room was right near the reception entry.

HP looks like a repurposed warehouse / factory-a large main area subdivided by partitions into separate areas: dance floor, TV lounge, restaurant seating area with a bar counter. The "kino" is a partioned area with a regular-sized tv, and seemed to continually show what I called "MILF porn"-some hobbyhuren type taking her clothes off for the camera.

The bar / restaurant area is where the action is, and seemingly everyone was there. I counted about 10 girls and 10 guys; with a few outside in the adjoining smoking area. I walked upstairs to look around-there were fuckrooms that seemingly were once offices, and a wellness area with footbaths, sauna, and a relax / lounge room. Up a narrow spiral staircase was the rooftop patio-way too cold in this November climate but looked like a nice place for summer sun.

LINEUP.

I was a little disappointed by the lineup at first-I knew they would be mostly GND / plain jane types, but after being pleasantly surprised at F39, was a little let down by the HP lineup. Most were girls that I wouldn't pursue at other FKKs. But the place was recommended for service, and eventually I would find that to be definitely the case. Most all were either fully naked or wearing just skimpy lingerie (Friday being an FKK day at HP) and mostly had decent FKK standard bodies. The one Asian girl looked just like this stuck-up biologist I knew back in the '90s, skinny, black eyeglass frames and all. But most of the girls were from the usual Rom / Bul cohort.

I squeezed onto a barstool and sipped a draft beer while taking in the scene. A middle-aged white guy, aka "DJ Sunny" was standing at a laptop dj station at the far end of the bar / restaurant area, playing a pretty good mix of dance music. An older balding guy, reminiscent of Jim Cramer, was dancing with Shilla, the token black girl on the roster, enjoying himself immensely. I envisioned him letting loose after a tough day pitching stocks on Mad Money.

Girls were playful and friendly-there seemed to be mostly regular patrons amongst the guys, and so there were lots of hugs and tickling and laughing. Like a big house party more than an FKK. One girl zeroed in on me as I sat and sipped my beer; she was dancing on her own to the music and was really in a party mood.

* * *

ROSA de Romania (maybe Bulgaria? Can't remember).24 years old. 160 cm tall, brown hair, brown eyes.

(Pics of Rosa from HP website attached below)

Rosa was having a great time, shaking her booty at me up close. She turned around and gave me a quasi-lapdance. But when she smiled at me I was taken aback-she was missing one of her upper teeth. Ulp! But there was just something so nasty and full-on sexual about her that I started getting a boner while sitting on my barstool. She started kissing me and we ended up making out right there, her hand inside my robe stroking my cock.

First time I've done that right in the main room at an FKK, especially with a girl missing a tooth. I said, let's go to the room, and she bounced off to get a key and I followed her upstairs, her shaking her naked ass in my face as we went up to the fuckroom floor, pulling me up by my erection.

In the room she plucked her gum out of her mouth, pushed me onto the bed, and started deep throating me. She was gooood. Did the swirl thing, the side lick thing, the hard suck with a pop! Liftoff. Then she smiled, with that big missing tooth gap, and said,"I want you to fuck me in the ass".

Isn't there a video series,"Straight to the A", where they just go straight into full-on anal sex? That's what this was. She gummied me up, shot some lube on and stuck me in her butt, doggy style. No conventional sex as a warmup, just straight to the A. At first she held up a hand, told me "langsam" to go slow, but after a while we were totally pounding each other, balls-deep each thrust, with that incredible tight sensation. After a while I would feel air pressure pushing me back out, as I'm sure I trapped a big air bubble in her rectum plunging in and out so much.

Rosa stuck her butt up in the air, face down into the bed, and started fingering herself. Man, what a PSE. After a while I pulled out and said hey, I want to fuck you in your pussy too. She rolled over on her back, put her legs up in the air, and beckoned me in. We finished that way, with hard kisses as I came, her feet up around my ears, her arms tight around my body holding me in close.

Damage: 40EUR + 50EUR bonus for anal.

I showered and changed while talking with the Jim Cramer guy I saw dancing earlier, who had the locker 2 spaces down from mine. Turned out to be a Dutchman who drives the 1 hour journey into Germany every so often to the NRW clubs. Talked about SixSens, GT, and other clubs-he said he prefers HP for the service and the lower prices. Cool guy.

For the rest of the evening Rosa would come by flirting, sometimes feeling me up, but without the sense of a hard sell-I suppose she knew that I would likely go for one of her friends and so she didn't turn on the nasty charm.

* * *

I went back down to the bar and got another beer. A chubby latin-looking girl, Monica, started a conversation with me. She had worked in London in an apartment brothel, and was very conversant in English. Monica helped me order my dinner (schnitzel with pomme frites and a cabbage salad, which was excellent) and then when the food arrived sat across the room to give me some space as I ate.

One girl who I thought looked really familiar came by while I was eating. Flori had that look of the girls from the old country who might've been in some little village, herding goats or something. Fantastic body, reddish / blonde hair, pale skin, big eyes with a touch of sadness. She reminded me of Peter Parker's neighbor Ursula from Spiderman 2/3 (played by actress Mageina Tovah). I really dug her body but somehow those big sad eyes didn't float my boat. I'm sure I've met Flori somewhere before, but just can't place where and when.

I went over to the sofa alcove off to the right of DJ Sunny's rig, which had a big flat screen TV showing highlights of the recent soccer tournament. Plunked down in the sofa in front of the TV and hung out for a while. I think I fell asleep a few times. I woke up once and noticed a couple on the sofa next to me-a naked girl was straddling the guy as they made out. Then he adjusted something between his legs and they started a bit of a rhythm. Tried not to stare. Eventually they got up and went somewhere else-I don't think they finished their session right there but something was getting started.

Sometime later a naked brunette came by and asked how I was doing in excellent English."Ich bin sehr mόde" (I am very tired) I sleepily replied. Andrea introduced herself, then smiled-maybe I can wake you up? As she reached under my robe. To my surprise, Little Tommy woke up-way before the rest of me did. Andrea grinned,"not so tired, hmmm?" then bent over and started giving me head. At first I was ok with that; then I had to start concentrating on watching the soccer in order not to come.

* * *

ANDREA de Romania. 25 years old. 173 cm, brown hair, brown eyes.

(Pics of Andrea from HP website attached below)

I sat up, expecting Andrea to just start blowing me more, but she said,"let's move over here" and led me to the TV / Kino area-the partitioned area where I saw the MILF porn video earlier. We settled into a sofa that was kind of out of direct view from passers by, and started making out.

Andrea knelt before me and started deep throating me. She'd look up at me with her nose buried in my pubes with this weird look in her eyes, like my penis tip was tickling her optic nerve or something. My eyes were probably rolling back in my head too, it felt so good.

She led me over to the bed they have there-you're kind of out of the line of sight of most folks but passersby can see your session. I didn't notice, and didn't really care. Started in mish with lots of DFK, then switched to doggy. I got up and stood at the edge of the bed, while Andrea shifted over to the edge so I could get in, posting on a shoulder so she could look back at me. Quite sexy with total eye contact. Really had to work hard for this 4th pop of the day, but it was worth it.

Damage: 40EUR.

I had only 50s left, so Andrea had to make change at the reception. Some of the other girls were playfully carrying the litle asian girl into the shower-maybe she had spilled something on herself? In any case, the girls seemed to be a tight knit group-sometimes at clubs you see cliques and maybe pairs of buddies hanging out together-like if they happen to be from the same country or something. At HP all the girls seemed friendly with each other, which I took to be a sign of a good working environment and a good attitude amongst the girls.

When I changed to close out my locker the Dutch guy from earlier was getting ready to go back into the main room. He had a number of little trinkets for the girls-I thought that was a nice touch and surely endeared him to many of the ladies. I was pretty tired by this time though, and knew I didn't have another pop in me, so I took off for my hotel.

SUMMARY.

I liked Haus Panthera. Although the lineup didn't have any stunners, the service levels were top-notch and I enjoyed my time there. The food was great, free beer was good, and the attitude and friendliness of everyone: girls, staff, other patrons, etc was super.

Ortos
12-18-13, 21:02
SUMMARY.

I liked Haus Panthera. Although the lineup didn't have any stunners, the service levels were top-notch and I enjoyed my time there. The food was great, free beer was good, and the attitude and friendliness of everyone: girls, staff, other patrons, etc was super.What a fantastic report! Actually this is one of the best reports I've read in a long time. Bravo and thanks!

Maxime
12-21-13, 14:32
What a fantastic report! Actually this is one of the best reports I've read in a long time. Bravo and thanks!Good report indeed and the essentials are written as it is: it is indeed a club with GNDs, and GFE / PSE service is THE reason to go to this club, not for optic-ficks.

Be careful: most top-girls will have their last working day today, and then go on holiday. Must Rom / Bul girls will be back mid / end January.

Pity in 2014 the entrance fee will be raised from 40 to 55 euro. Not smart idea of Bob (the owner) , since HP is positioned as a small, high service club, with not much facilities (more then real small clubs like Neby, LL, van Goch and H7, but less then GT, PHG, etc). Let's hope they change their mind, not because this euro 15 is worthwhile thinking about, but history shows that clubs who did increased their prices, get less visitors, and that is one thing HP was not good at: on most Sunday-Thursdays it is very very very quiet. Maybe happy hour for Euro 40 until 14:00, and on weekdays, so more people will come?

A random Dutch regular visitor of HP.

Banana Boi
12-21-13, 15:04
Pity in 2014 the entrance fee will be raised from 40 to 55 euro.Wow that's a big jump. Agree it doesn't make a lot sense for a club that doesn't get a lot of customers during the week.

Imo all clubs except for consistently busy ones like GT should consider tiered pricing for slow days like Sunday and Monday. That strategy is doing wonders for Sharks so surprised other clubs haven't caught on.

Free Dude
12-21-13, 15:17
While I agree it is a big jump (and foresee some negative effects) , it should be noted the official line was always: entree is 55, but there was a long period with a 'special' for 40 euros. This is how it has been sold on the website as well. We'll see what happens, after all Bernds is still charging 75 for next to nothing as well.

Maxime
12-22-13, 10:13
While I agree it is a big jump (and foresee some negative effects) , it should be noted the official line was always: entree is 55, but there was a long period with a 'special' for 40 euros. This is how it has been sold on the website as well. We'll see what happens, after all Bernds is still charging 75 for next to nothing as well.

So then all girls in Panthera will also offer the extended Bernd's Service LOL :-)))))

BTW, latest news is that the new published rate will be Euro 60, but "street price" will be Euro 50 for entrance. Start date of the new pricing plan in discussion because of the lesser line-up during the coming holidays. Room prices will stay at Euro 40 for each half hour.

BTW2, 6-7 girls from Blue Note joined Panthera, first impression is they are not on the same (high) service and looks level as the Panthera girls. Let's hope this is not a trend (this is more important then a few extra euro's at entrance).

Breadman
12-22-13, 17:37
While I agree it is a big jump (and foresee some negative effects) , it should be noted the official line was always: entree is 55, but there was a long period with a 'special' for 40 euros. This is how it has been sold on the website as well. We'll see what happens, after all Bernds is still charging 75 for next to nothing as well.Bernds can get by on a smaller number of guests since its basically a small house in the countryside and I'm assuming the house is bought and paid for. I've never visited Panthera but the photo's suggest its a larger club. Larger club means bigger rent.

Jymondor
01-15-14, 21:44
I see entry price is 55 Euros now.

What is current price for 1/2 hr? Still 40E or 50? How much is for next 1/2 hr?

Paco69
01-16-14, 01:02
No, it's 50 to get in the Club.

40 for 30min, and 80 for an hour.

Come in mouth 25.

Paying the girl after each session.

One of the last FKK's that has no problem to start a session with BBBJ at the main room.

VSail
02-04-14, 15:07
As I read posts in other FKK threads I saw that Panthera (PH) and Livingroom (LR) are some others in a reasonable distance to Cologne which come into prominence with their service quality, nudity and some public action options.

I am planing to have a visit which will be service oriented with lower lineup expectations but still having a limit of doable. As I mentioned above possible options are PH, LR and Bernds. According to what I have read in the threads of each club still Bernd's service quality has a place as "legendary". But in the orther hand as far as I read in their threads other two have similar service standard (except CIM) , but better facilities, which I think a reasonable plus for the periods between sessions. Also by means of cost LR and PH has advantages but since according to what I have red in this thread, my opinion about Bernds service is legendary so cost disadvantage may be tolerated.

My most important concern about these clubs is about being a foreigner who don't speak German.

According to my schedule it seems that I will be available ot 9th of Feb Sunday afternoon or 13th of Feb Thursday afternoon.

What would be your advice for a rookie in FKK Clubs about where to visit and when to visit?

Jymondor
02-05-14, 02:17
A reasonable distance to CologneCologne? No German speaking skills? Why you are asking about Dusseldorf clubs? Samya is in Cologne and more girls speak English than German there. If you don't mind laud party atmosphere this is a choice.

Dufey
02-05-14, 08:10
As I read posts in other FKK threads I saw that Panthera (PH) and Livingroom (LR) are some others in a reasonable distance to Cologne which come into prominence with their service quality, nudity and some public action options.

I am planing to have a visit which will be service oriented with lower lineup expactations but still having a limit of doable. As I mentioned above possible options are PH, LR and Bernds. According to what I have read in the threads of each club still Bernd's service quality has a place as "legendary". But in the orther hand as far as I read in their threads other two have similar service standart (except CIM) , but better facilities, which I think a reasonable plus for the periods between sessions. Also by means of cost LR and PH has advantages but since according to what I have red in this thread, my opinion about Bernds service is legendary so cost disadvantage may be tolarated.

According to my schedule it seems that I will be available ot 9th of Feb Sunday afternoon or 13th of Feb Thursday afternoon.

What would be your advice for a rookie in FKK Clubs about where to visit and when to visit?If you only have a choice of a Sunday and a Thursday to split between any of Haus Panthera, Living Room or Bernds and will be taking public transport to get to them, then please ensure that your visit to Haus Panthera or Living Room is on the Sunday and the visit to Bernds is on the Thursday since Bernds is closed on Saturdays, Sundays and public holidays whereas HP and LR are open those days except maybe Silvester and Christmas Eve. To go to Bernds on a weekend would be a rookie mistake.

VSail
02-05-14, 22:33
Cologne? No German speaking skills? Why you are asking about Dusseldorf clubs? Samya is in Cologne and more girls speak English than German there. If you don't mind laud party atmosphere this is a choice.Joymondor.

As far as I read in the related threads I had an impression of higher service quality will be available in PH or LR than Samya. Again as far as I read I had an impression of better line up will be available in Samya, but according to my impression PH and LR can tolerate this difference with their services.


If you only have a choice of a Sunday and a Thursday to split between any of Haus Panthera, Living Room or Bernds and will be taking public transport to get to them, then please ensure that your visit to Haus Panthera or Living Room is on the Sunday and the visit to Bernds is on the Thursday since Bernds is closed on Saturdays, Sundays and public holidays whereas HP and LR are open those days except maybe Silvester and Christmas Eve. To go to Bernds on a weekend would be a rookie mistake.Dufey thank you reminding me that Bernds will be closed on Saturday and Sunday's, I know this issue and if a Bernds visit happens in my trip it will be on Thursday.

Maxime
02-16-14, 23:29
Joymondor.

As far as I read in the related threads I had an impression of higher service quality will be available in PH or LR than Samya. Agin as far as I read I had an impression of better line up will be available in Samya, but according to my impression PH and LR can tolarate this difference with their services.It certainly does, especially in Haus Panthera. Good lineup at the moment there!

Samya is great for the looks, but don't expect extensive foreplay (including BBBJ & French kissing in the bar) there.

Breadman
02-17-14, 00:32
As far as I read in the related threads I had an impression of higher service quality will be available in PH or LR than Samya.Lets be honest here, its not just the club that gets you the higher level service, there's alot of factors that goes into it. Money, connection with the girl, your age and looks, money, clubs instructions on service level the girls should provide, money. You spend lots of money on the girls, their service levels will be amazing. If you come across as a strange guy asking strange questions, the service will go in the toilet. So try not to talk to yourself too much, don't ask the girls why they are doing this and you'll be fine.

VSail
02-19-14, 14:44
Lets be honest here, its not just the club that gets you the higher level service, there's alot of factors that goes into it. Money, connection with the girl, your age and looks, money, clubs instructions on service level the girls should provide, money. You spend lots of money on the girls, their service levels will be amazing. If you come across as a strange guy asking strange questions, the service will go in the toilet. So try not to talk to yourself too much, don't ask the girls why they are doing this and you'll be fine.After I had some experience in FKK concept at the end of my visits to Mondial I completely agree with your comment. Money has a key effect as increasing the possibility of finding correct choice and also it may have a positive effect on next sessions with the same girl. But I think it is more related with chemistry. I mean how you behave to the girls before and in the room. I am a rookie about FKK but as far as I see first a few minutes is critical. If you can catch something more than classic introduction sentences then rest comes it self. If you catch a good relaxed and funny mood together then the rest would be similar, if you feel forcing yourself to find topics to talk for carry on the conversation or she starts to ask for room then, according to what you feel up to that moment, going to room or leaving the girl will be the best choice.

I think from the first moment you start to talk with girl to the end of your session joy of the period has a sinusoidal graph, if thing starts to have a downward trend then it is hard to have it in rising trend again. At least a break is needed. And the top point and the duration of one cycle of the sinusoidal graph of joy is related with the chemistry between you and the girl. So as a conclusion, IMO, as it is same for every where, you need to give effort to have joy because generally aims of both sides are different, you want to have a good service in the room but in the other hand her priority is to take you to the room. So one needs to give effort to convince the girl you are worth to give more than just a mechanical sex.

In that point of view it is similar to be with an escort where I am more experienced, generally you receive as how you behave.

Free Dude
02-20-14, 00:16
You guys are both right and wrong. There are clubs (Neby, Bernds, Lulo, Panthera, etc) where the basic service is just higher. How do I know? Because you see every couple making out before they go to a room. No one can deny this is very different from clubs like Acapulco, Mondial, Samya, Mainhattan, etc. Clubs where DFK is not a certainty. I have often had girls (that I know) make a 'disgusted face' at me after making out with a very old dude, so the girls still have their preferences, they just know that it is part of their job (BTW I'm in no hurry to find out what the girls actually think of me).

In my experience these clubs are great for high basic service, but getting 'beyond' that is far more difficult. In a club like Samya there are far more girls that provide limited service, unless they like you or you have 'chemistry'. Personally I like these kinds of girls a lot more; but it also means the experiences are different for different people. For instance, Adel from Samya (now Mainhattan) and Roxana from Sharks are subpar performers in my book. Not terrible, but nothing more than average either. I'll assure you that everyone has a high opinion of Svetlana in Lulo, or Melody in Panthera.

PS I've had the most memorable sessions with girls in Samya of all places (non of the famous names here) and often other reports have been pretty damning.

Noodlesnick
02-23-14, 20:44
Thursday evening. About 15 girls (nearly all Romanian) ranging from stunning to less than. Very quiet and nothing like the large FKKs. Rooms quite basic but had a great session with Evelina (Bulgarian). Taxi from airport about E15. Entry E50 + returnable E10 for key, then E40/30 minute session. Free beer.

BillAgain
03-05-14, 17:22
I was mulling over whether to visit Frankfurt, but I ended up pulling the trigger on tickets to Dusseldorf since they were a couple hundred dollars cheaper and the NRW area in general is cheaper. Anyways I was hoping to get some general questions answered as this seems like a club to visit based purely on the reports. I have scoured this thread, but many posts are old and some contradict others. Any info you guys could provide would be appreciated:

1. What is the standard price / pricing structure for time and any extras? I see posts stating that it is 40 for 30 minutes. Is this still true? There are few posts that state what extras cost (cim / cob, anal, etc) , anyone have any numbers on those?

2. What is the standard / basic service, what should I expect for the basic session? Is BBBJ and DATY part of the basic pay, or is that something that must be asked / negotiated?

3. What is the typical number of girls there during the day / night / weekend? Anyone care to comment on the Boy: Girl ratio during those times?

4. Does this club allow girls to approach / initiate contact, or is it a no-approach club (similar to Samya or others)?

5. How is the English at the club? My German is poor at best, will I have any issues?

6. Does this club discriminate against patrons in any way? I visited Cologne last year and had no issues, but when digging through threads for Dusseldorf are clubs I noticed many people asking about this, something which I found missing in the Cologne / Frankfurt club threads.

7. Is there a list indicating what each girl does at the club, or must you ask the girls themselves? The website listed some, but not all of what each girl is willing to do.

8. The website lists that the patrons receive a robe, I just want to double check that that is still correct?

Thanks for your time,

BillAgain

Sportsman
03-06-14, 01:49
Entry E50 + returnable E10 for key, then E40/30 minute session. Free beer.Don't forget two very nice meals - cook to order from the menu of 4 or 5 selections

Sportsman
03-06-14, 02:08
I was there only 2 times during last summer. I try to answer your questions.

1. What is the standard price / pricing structure for time and any extras? I see posts stating that it is 40 for 30 minutes. Is this still true? There are few posts that state what extras cost (cim / cob, anal, etc) , anyone have any numbers on those? As far as I know, the price is still the same. Don't know the cost for CIM, COB, and anal. I assume 50 Euros extra each

2. What is the standard / basic service, what should I expect for the basic session? Is BBBJ and DATY part of the basic pay, or is that something that must be asked / negotiated? DFK, DATY, and BBBJ are standard services. Some girls might not do all of them. But if they do, they can't charge you extra for them. Normal FKK practice.

3. What is the typical number of girls there during the day / night / weekend? Anyone care to comment on the Boy: Girl ratio during those times? Hard to say. Typical shift should have around 15 girls. Guys can be about the same or double that.

4. Does this club allow girls to approach / initiate contact, or is it a no-approach club (similar to Samya or others)? Girls can approach / initiate contact. But normally they are not hard sell. I did not feel pressured in anyway.

5. How is the English at the club? My German is poor at best, will I have any issues? Some girls do speak some English, but not many. Some speak Spanish if that helps you. I never have problem even if the girls only speaks their native Romanian and Bulgarian.

6. Does this club discriminate against patrons in any way? I visited Cologne last year and had no issues, but when digging through threads for Dusseldorf are clubs I noticed many people asking about this, something which I found missing in the Cologne / Frankfurt club threads. I assume you are referring to race discrimination. I have seen Caucasian, Asian, and Turks in the club. Didn't seen any African, Indian, and Arab though. Not suggesting they discriminate against them, just none was there on the two days I was there.

7. Is there a list indicating what each girl does at the club, or must you ask the girls themselves? The website listed some, but not all of what each girl is willing to do. No list posted in the club. I don't put much weight on what they post on their website anyway. Just go with the flow.

8. The website lists that the patrons receive a robe, I just want to double check that that is still correct? Robe was provided.

Vito Corleone
03-06-14, 02:11
I was mulling over whether to visit Frankfurt, but I ended up pulling the trigger on tickets to Dusseldorf since they were a couple hundred dollars cheaper and the NRW area in general is cheaper. Anyways I was hoping to get some general questions answered as this seems like a club to visit based purely on the reports. I have scoured this thread, but many posts are old and some contradict others. Any info you guys could provide would be appreciated:

Thanks for your time,

BillAgainI have never been to this club, but some of my friends visited in Feb & they gave a raving review of the service from the girls. Not many stunners like some in bigger clubs like GT, but good looking girls. 5 guys picking multiple girls & they all came close to busting a nut in their robes describing the service they received. These guys have been playing around for 7-10 yrs so it is hard to get these guys excited.

I didn't ask about prices, food, if they discriminate & etc. Seemed like a very relaxed club.

Tedesco
03-06-14, 08:37
I know the Panthera existing since 5 years now, but I was never there. Why? Because I was roughly 10 years a regular visitor of BLUE NOTE (Rath-Mitte). Unfortunately this club (same owner as Panthera) was closed for ever after Christmas party in last December 2013.

But some of the girls (rather women. Almost 24+ till 40 years old) switched to Panthera. I don't know their schedule, but some of them also appear on the ladies overview on the website of Panthera. As service in Blue Note was never something to complain, I only can recommend to book one of these girls when being there.

EWA. Polish origin, but fluent German speaking (in July 2013 she got the 10th anniversay in Blue Note) , blond long hair, slim, cup A-B, not completely shaved. 39 years old: I don't know how many times I shared a room with her in the last ten years. But she looks today as she did 10 years ago.

MELODIE (former Laura in Blue Note). Bulgarian, fluent German speaking, always talking and appreciated a lot by the customers as she is famous for her excellent service, too. 26 years old, as Ewa she also gives you the impression not to do a job but a kind of "vocation".

JESSICA. German. 2-3 times per week working, NO intercourse but great BBBJ with whatever you want, all over features offered but no penetrating. Great, she is so nice and welcoming (30 years?).

MARINA. Russian origin (German speaking) , late 30s / beginning 40s, hair like a lion, smooth face, excellent body, as Melody one of the best DFK. BBBJ excellent. Worth a try.

BRIANA. Young Romanian girl, never been with her as her schedule wasn't the same as mine. But in Blue Note I saw her in action on last Christmas party. WYSIWYG.

Compared to the other girls mentioned so far she is perhaps not the GF6 addicted but rather hardcore related.

JACQUELINE (could be former BN-Jacky). German. 32 years, curly blond hair, YES.

NESRINA (, in the first 20s, Marocco origin, German fluent) Same service features as JESSICA.

There also should be no problem communicating in English with these girls/women

Enjoy!

PussyLiccker
03-06-14, 08:41
Sounds like girls(or ladies. lol.) are a bit older. Are they generally around 30? If there are girls in early 20's, what's the percentage? Maybe Wassab stamp of approval?

Ok, those are former Blue Note girls, that's why they seam to be older.

Free Dude
03-06-14, 08:59
The former 'Blue note' girls are generally a bit older, but at the same time there is Melanie (18) , Paula (19) , Julia (19) and some girls in their early twenties (Evelina, Elena, Christina for instance). So yes, a few girls a bit older and optically maybe a little less stunning then elsewhere; average service much better than in most places discussed here.

Tedesco
03-06-14, 09:20
Guys, I visited Blue Note for roughly ten years. The look of the women I told you about is more than only ok. And the service behaviuor / performance is on the highest level. I remember when one of these ladies told me ". If as a woman you can't manage this kind of job don't do it, because you only can give good service when you "like" what you do).

By the way, I forgot to mention ANNA (eraly 30s, blond long hair. 160 cm, Polish origin but in Germany since her childhood). Only on Sundays. She told me some years ago: ". Well, I don't have a partner at home but I like to have sex. Here I got it.

Girls doing the job in a good way and with a good mood are scare. Don't pay to much attention on age e. G. In MAINHATTAN in Frankfurt you may have a lot of pretty girls but some with a poor service guarantee, too (personal opinion and experience).

Check it out yourself. If you need a voting on the girls mentioned by myself: HIGHLY RECOMMENDABLE.

Travelforfun
03-06-14, 23:15
Was wondering if I'll go to panthera or Magnum tomm, but I guess it will be Panthera after reading your report.

BTW is Nicole working there as well?

Travelforfun
03-09-14, 08:03
OMG. What a super Friday at the club, just got back home and will write the detailed report later.

Just to keep the names fresh had killer sessions with Julia and Corina. Awesome erotic massage from sunny.

Dufey
03-09-14, 13:11
Awesome erotic massage from sunny.Do you mean DJ Sunny gave you a massage?

Ortos
03-09-14, 14:02
Do you mean DJ Sunny gave you a massage?If you look at the club's website that shows the girls working there, scroll down near to the bottom and you'll see there is a girl named Sunny listed for "erotic massage."

Free Dude
03-09-14, 14:21
Yep there are two Sunny's.

I personally had a fairly mediocre session with Corina (for HP standards) , but little Julia can be a lot of fun (was with her on her first day). Still would say these girls are not anywhere near the top in HP.

BigBuddy69
03-10-14, 21:59
I was there on Friday. Met three french guys (one of them I already met in August, really nice fellow).

First session with Paula. Very pretty, very soft, lots of kissing, touching, rubbing, great sex, I came in doggie. Too bad she charged me 35 minutes for one hour (she smoked at the end of the session so we went out at 40 minutes). I didn't want to argue since she had been so nice and sweet. She gave me some kisses when I crossed her path later.

Second session with Helena. Well, I like her but we don't really fit together. We went to the small kino. Her BJ is a little painful for me (not enough saliva or she doesn't open her mouth wide enough) and she can't handle the intensity during sex, not enough endurance (and she has no gel) , so I didn't come. Paid her 40 euros but I don't think I'll go with her again, even if her kisses are so sweet.

Then, with Maria, one of the most beautiful faces I've ever seen (and her body is hot even if she's not a slim girl). Nice BJ, sex in many positions, little break (she went down to take some drinks for me and her) , sex again, and she finished me by hand while looking at me with her perfect face. 1 hour for 80 euros.

One of my french friends took Denisa for the most part of the afternoon (she was my first girl last year in Panthera and jumped on me when she saw me) , but later, she was free, and after lots of kissing and groping we went to the small kino. There was a man here who stayed during our entire session! Great BJ, then passionate sex with lots of kissing in various positions. I came in CG. I had some "good but not great" memories of Denisa (I choosed her in April 2013 because there were not really other girls to my taste) but this time she was great, very enthusiastic, kissed a lot, and she was able to endure intense sex. Paid her 50 € for about 40 minutes.

During my stay at HP, Paula and Melanie gave a great show of lesbian love, there were many hot girls : Michelle, Jackie, Melanie, new girls like Luciana, Larissa, Julia, the line up has improved a lot since last year. All the girls have been very friendly. Denisa even gave me chocolate.

They just should use sheets instead of towels, it would be nice if there was a buffet (I was hungry even after the two meals).

Tedesco
03-11-14, 03:31
. BTW2, 6-7 girls from Blue Note joined Panthera, first impression is they are not on the same (high) service and looks level as the Panthera girls. Let's hope this is not a trend (this is more important then a few extra euro's at entrance).Maybe the former BLUE NOTE "women" are merely representing the 20 year old stunner. But concerning their service level I'm convinced that they're value adding to the Panthera. On the website they're even promoted on a single panel as "service stars of Blue Note".

Travelforfun
03-11-14, 11:25
Had free time on Friday and an early morning flight on Saturday back home so thought will spend the whole time in the club. Checked out from my Euro 120 NH Hotel Dusseldorf and checked into Euro 54 Holiday Inn Ratingen. From the hotel its just a 9euro ride to the club.

Got there at about 2 PM. The receptionist was happy to know I was a former Bluenote customer and assured me I will like this place as well. There were a few former Bluenote girls present including the famous EWA. That girl simply doesn't seem to age a bit.

Had a nice shower, after a long time I found a shower with pressure pumps which I really really enjoy specially on my back. I think I must have enjoyed the shower for like full 10 Min. Like a small baby. Onto the bar area for some coffee and then a walk outside for smokes. BTW the blonde at the bar was really hot, I don't know if thats like the human nature but the girl which is never available seems to be the most desirable.

The girls at the club are really friendly, some would say pushy but I guess there is a thin line for saying that. Almost all girls said hello and made eye contact, few flying kisses, a bum grind now and then and some really did push me into the corner and felt me as well. All in good nature through. Even when I excused myself on the pretext of a meal or a smoke or a drink none of them frowned or looked unhappy.

Was really tired about a weeks travel and work so I wanted a good massage to start with, asked Sunny (Big Lebanese girl) if she was free and she was happy to take me upstairs. Had a really good massage session with her, she's a big girl so the body to body massage did feel a heavy but being a big sized man I have no right to complain.

She didn't finish me off but I don't think they do so anyways. Came back down and chilled out for a few more hours.

At around 7 I had my eyes on the little Julia. Initially she didn't look that appealing to me as I'm more into big girls but she had this sweet innocent smile and something inside me said that I need to experiment. Got seated next to her and it turns out she speaks Zero English and I speak Zero German / Romanian / Spanish. She was sweet enough to offer me her friend who did speak english but I was sure I can manage a great session despite the language barrier.

I was right indeed, had a great time with her in the room.

Next was Corina (I may have the name wrong now that I think, it was a girl with some pimples on her face) she was really sweet to me all the while I was in the club.

She even fed me a chocolate later in the day. After she asked me so many time I just couldn't say no to her and finally went in for a session. Had a super one as well. Got a nice massage, she got one from me as well and a super session. I know not many of you are interested in the dirty details but she just had the perfect fitting hole for me. I guess you guys would understand. Sometimes its just right, the sensation.

Overall a super session.

MrPhun
03-25-14, 20:05
Hey guys,

Last month I tried GT, the facilities and the space were outstanding, but the lineup and average service was not (expected more).

Last Saturday I spontanuously decided to give the Haus Panthera a try:

After a cold draft beer while exploring the upper floor an older lady called Natasha (bu) approached me. In terms of looks she is not really the type of woman I prefer, but for me GFE is more important than PSE. The session was ok, nothing special. To be honest, it was just a kind of warm up.

I got pretty hungry, so I have ordered the pasta. Meanwhile a girl (bu) sat next to me. I'm still unable to remember her name, but she stand out in the crowd, especially because of her shoulderlengh blonde died hairs. Anyway, we had some small talk and after finishing the tasty meal we went upstairs. The session was nothing special too (BBBJ. 69, cowgirl, doggy) , but still pretty far away from being boring, as she tried to make it a pleasant occasion (at least after she came).

Another beer and a few cigarettes later (smokers sit outside, makes the air inside more bearable) an interesting looking girl sat in front of me. She is called Evelina (bu) , has a darker taint and natural be-cups. I somehow had the impression that she had a shark-attitude, but still went with her to a room. No upselling, but polite pushing for an one hour session, which I anyway prefer and usually take (unless it is a shitty session). Did not bring her to come, but again I could notice a better or at least a more relaxed attitude afterwards. Seems like there are not many guys out there who enjoy blowing the girls' minds. All in all it was a nice session with various standard positions.

Usually three sessions are my maximum, but not that day. Right after entering the main room the petite Christina (ro) attracted my attention, but I hesitated, as she looked like a girl for PSE sessions. Bad mistake. The fourth session was a plain hot GFE and PSE one. After telling her that I'm nearly exhausted, she seemed to try even harder to bring me to cum (in a positive way, not to cut the time). Pretty crazy that girl, at least I am not used to things like licking earholes and such.

In general I have to say that there were not as much old ladies as I expected. 2-3 ladies were older than 30 and the others (approximately 15 in total) were somewhere in their mid to end twenties. Not that many fresh flesh, but still ok. Later at 17.00 the lineup improved a bit. In terms of service there was nothing to complain about. The girls were friendly, playful, not pushy and accepted the standard pricing (40 eur each 30 min).

I did not try the facilities, but from what I have seen (sauna, showers and massage rooms) it looks comparable to other clubs. The only two minus points are that no massage girls were present and there is no real cinema (favourite foreplay room).

Anyway it was a nice day, which needs to be repeated in a while.

Cheers,

MrPhun

Trans Atlantic
04-10-14, 22:52
Stopped by HP this afternoon for lunch and to check out the additions from Blue Note. Entry is 50EUR. Half hour still 40EUR. Got a massage from Laetitia for 30EUR. Nothing worth writing home about. Nicole does look pretty cute but I wasn't in the mood to take her to the zimmer. The rest of the lineup is GND visually.

Tedesco
04-11-14, 08:35
As a former regular visitor of BLUE NOTE (BN) in Duesseldorf-Rath Mitte for nearly 10 years, I already know since 5 years about Panthera, but I was never there. Why not? OK, the BN was a small but very familiar place, a location someone likes or not. The service all over the time was more than excellent and the price (in the end 35€/30 minutes) more than reasonable. The selection of ladies was rather limited, but it was for a lot of women the best club to join both, private life in family and "business".

Unfortunately BN closed its doors in mid December last year (I've been told that the authorities didn't want to revolve the admission to run a club there).

Some of the girls switched to Panthera (EWA, MARINA, MELODIE / Laura in BN, NICOLE, NESRINA.) and as far as I know the guests are welcoming the service of these women. By the way, Ewa (39 years) , Marina (38) , Melodie (27). But age is not a disadvantage when you expect excellent service. And they all give.

On the last Friday in March I went to Panthera for the first time. Nice place, a good number of guests already in the early afternoon. Ba ythe way people of whom I know some from other clubs and therefore men's entertainment and conversation topics were guaranteed.

Food is excellent and a nice selection of dishes is offered. Clean place with a nice outside area on top of the roof with a kind of fish bowl where you can enjoy.

My first session was with Melodie. A revival in a new place (we share the room since she was in BN. At least three years). Well, a perfect match, we know each other and the things which both like (kissing, DFK, BBBJ,.).75 minutes. She could give me a BJ for an hour. It's fabulous.

Same for Ewa, who I didn't expect any more to come. But surprise. Walking in the corridor at 5 pm I met her coming in and a warm welcome ended in 90 minutes "fish bowl action" on the roof. By the way, I know Ewa since my first visit in BN. A lot of couples would already be seperated after 10 years. We now got our 10th anniversay in the room. I suppose there I no need to describe, because 10 years. Are explaining why.

I was also suprised about a nice number of girls quite new here. But someone told me that another club, FREUDE 39 in Bochum, has finished its activities and therefore some women came over. For male guests more than a good selection, for the women always a high competition.

Result: Panthera is worth being visited. For me it's not so comfortable as I'm using the public transport and the location is around 40 minutes away from Duesseldorf central station (BN was only an 11 minutes ride by suburban train and an additional 200 meters walking distance).

Diet Coke
04-11-14, 16:57
Tedesco said:

Result: Panthera is worth being visited. For me it's not so comfortable as I'm using the public transport and the location is around 40 minutes away from Duesseldorf central station

How do you recommend? I was hoping to visit on April 17. It looks like bus 754 from Dusseldorf HBF to Annastrasse and short walk (but I saw on Rhein site some kind of service interruption and I am not sure bus goes to Annastrasse stop. Also I never could find a complete time schedule for bus. The other possible way is to S bahn at Ratingen-Ost and then taxi. Any suggestions.

Thanks

BigBuddy69
04-11-14, 17:43
The best suggestion is to get the VRR or the DB BAHN app on your smartphone, there are many ways to go from Duss Hbf to HP.

Free Dude
04-11-14, 19:23
Best way for HP with public transport is to take the train to Duesseldorf airport and then take a bus. A few busses go to AlterKirchweg, which is only a few hundred meters from the club. Other busses may take you part way; from the airport station it's about 4km to the club, so if you can take a bus halfway it is kind of doable. In any case it works better to stay the night nearbye. Trypp is usually fairly doable (50-60) and Jagerhof is a bit more basic (40E) ; both are easily reached on foot.

Diet Coke
04-12-14, 05:21
The best suggestion is to get the VRR or the DB BAHN app on your smartphone, there are many ways to go from Duss Hbf to HP.Anyone know info if taxis usually available from Ratingen Ost S bahn. Also looks like may be a bus from Ratingen Ost. I am staying near Dusseldorf HBF so going to airport and several buses did not seem a great way to go. Once in Dusseldorf I can check if bus 754 does go to Annastrasse. Also will Haus Panthera get me a taxi if needed?

Free Dude
04-12-14, 08:24
From Ratingen Ost there are also busses, but they take a trip through town (which takes a bit longer). I think every train from Dusseldorf in the direction of Duisburg / Bochum / Dortmund also calls at dusseldorf airport.

Ableyone
04-12-14, 15:10
It looks like bus 754 from Dusseldorf HBF to Annastrasse and short walk (but I saw on Rhein site some kind of service interruption and I am not sure bus goes to Annastrasse stop.The service interruption is by way of a slight diversion missing out a stop, this occurs after Annastrasse so will not affect your planned journey.

Useful map here,

http://www.vrr.de/imperia/md/content/fahrten/stadtlinienplaene/mettmann.pdf

If anyone knows the cost of a taxi from the club to Dusseldorf Hbf this would me most helpful.

Diet Coke
04-12-14, 16:43
Around 30€ according to taxi fare finder

Dusseldorf HBF to club.

http://www.taxifarefinder.com/main.php?city=Dusseldorf-Germany&from=D%C3%BCsseldorf+Hbf%2C+Dusseldorf%2C+Germany&to=Robert-Zapp-Stra%C3%9Fe+2%2C+40880%2C+Ratingen%2C+Germany&fromCoord=51. 220901, 6.793845000000033&toCoord=51. 3071867, 6.825398199999995

TankTank123
04-12-14, 17:28
I went by taxi from Dusseldorf hbf today. It was 27€ each way.

There were surprisingly a few young girls today who were below 25, unlike in my previous visits. I tried out Ana Marie and then Denisa. They were both small built, but their characters were at the two extremes. Ana was very sweet but quite passive, while Denisa was active and wild. And there were some more attractive young ones coming in later in the afternoon, but I had to depart. If this is the new pattern, I must try HP more often!

Travelforfun
04-14-14, 13:15
Anyone know info if taxis usually available from Ratingen Ost S bahn. Also looks like may be a bus from Ratingen Ost. I am staying near Dusseldorf HBF so going to airport and several buses did not seem a great way to go. Once in Dusseldorf I can check if bus 754 does go to Annastrasse. Also will Haus Panthera get me a taxi if needed?You can also trying going to the airport and catching a taxi from there to the club. The club will call for a taxi anytime you want.

TankTank123
04-15-14, 04:31
Taxi from Ratingen Ost to HP cost 11€ last year. Together with the S6 train fare of 5. 10€ from Dusseldorf to Ratingen, it would be about €10 cheaper than catching a taxi direct from Dusseldorf. I have concluded this year that paying €10 more is worth the 30 minutes saved.

And yes, on previous occasions, there were always 2-3 taxis at the Ratingen station.

Diet Coke
04-17-14, 20:58
Took the 754 bus from Dusseldorf HBF and about 30+ minutes later got off at Annastrasse stop, sadly my map was one street over and I got confused finding the streets but eventually got there. It would have been easy had I included the bus stop of the map and not Annastrasse as starting point. Arrived around 1:00. 50€ plus 10€ key deposit. Had soon soft drinks from bar and sat outside off and on. Finally while sitting inside I smiled at Gabriela and she came and sat with me. We talked and soon DFK. Tallish, maybe 5'9' with dark hair past shoulders. Very slender with cute A cups (the most petite ones I saw). She had a belly button piercing and two hearts with surrounding stuff tattoo on her stomach. In the room we caressed some standing up and went onto the bed where I spent much time DATY. After a BJ with little variation I asked for the condom and she climbed on cowgirl. I did not last long. She said she was 30 and had been at HP for 3+ years. Spent about 20 minutes in room. Said she was Spanish / Romanian.

More sitting around, only one approach inside by Sonya, but it was too early for me. Food ready around 3:00. Good variety and tasty I thought. More time outside in smoking area. Finally realized the refrigerator with bottled beer was included, both regular and alcohol free.

Later I saw a blond sitting alone and joined her. I did not at first realize it was Sonya from before. After a little talk went to room. On the way she went to wrong way several times and did not know her way around much. Turned out it was her first day there, she said. She said she had worked at Heaven in Nuremburg previously. In room, started standing, hugging, caressing, sucking her tiny cute nipples. She had blonde hair, a belly button piercing, and a tattoo on stomach, salude or something. Before BJ, she cleaned me with some wipes. The BJ had too much hand use, I should have told her to slow down and less hand use. Asked for condom and she applied some lube and we went to the mission for a bit but eventually I wilted. She suggested another BJ and revived me and with new condom got on cowgirl and vigorously tried to make me cum. Later she still wanted to get me off so again started a new BJ and I finally told her less hand, as too much sorta hurts. I suggested doing it 69, so she used a wipe on her to remove the lube / oil or whatever. Fun 69 and we both seemed to enjoy it but finally I thought the time was approaching so I called a stop. About 30 minutes. Her kisses with me were not tongue kisses.

So more time outside, wandering around, drinking some beer and came back inside. There were several I had seen outside playing with their phones that I was interested in but when I went back in one was with another guy and other not really in a place I felt like approaching.

A bit later, a totally naked girl sat on my lap. Nicole, and I think it is the Nicole of HP website.

On my lap she soon was DFKing and hugging etc, so were went to room. Another Romanian but with not a tattoo. Probably C cup soft breasts. Her hair with sorta brown down to the middle of her back. She did wear a ying / yang necklace that might me the same as her pic of the website. After standing caressing, etc. I let her start a nice long BJ, the best of the three with variety and eye contact. Went to the mission and finished there. Some AST which she said she was 25 and had been there 4 months and was working during Easter. Ate again and a bit later around 7, decided to leave, got dressed and asking reception to call me a taxi to go to Ratingen Ost S bahn. About 10 minutes later taxi got there 12€. Waited for the S6 and returned to HBF.

Diet Coke
04-18-14, 06:23
Thanks Tank.

When I arrived about 19:30 there were 6 taxis there. One other thing about HP. Once while passing showers there were 2 guys and a girl in there. When I came back from bathroom just the one tall guy doing the girl doggie standing.

TankTank123
04-18-14, 07:01
yes, it is a marvelous concept for communal showering.

i got there last week at opening time and went to the shower. then 4 shapely girls came in nude together. as there were only 3 other shower heads, the 4th waited behind me. i was almost hoping that i would be gang raped. and i almost wished also that i could doggie them there and then, as the light bouncing off their nude bodies made it seem like being in an erotic movie.

i had already decided by the end of the shower which i wanted to session with.

but frustratingly, after the shower, all 4 took some breakfast food on their plates and disappeared somewhere for a whole hour!

i had to wait in the lounge watching 2 milfs having couch action with their customers before these girls reappeared.

Maxime
04-20-14, 07:54
Finally while sitting inside I smiled at Gabriela and she came and sat with me. We talked and soon DFK. Tallish, maybe 5'9' with dark hair past shoulders. Very slender with cute A cups (the most petite ones I saw). She had a belly button piercing and two hearts with surrounding stuff tattoo on her stomach. In the room we caressed some standing up and went onto the bed where I spent much time DATY. After a BJ with little variation I asked for the condom and she climbed on cowgirl. I did not last long. She said she was 30 and had been at HP for 3+ years. Spent about 20 minutes in room. Said she was Spanish / Romanian.Gabriella worked in Freude 39 and other clubs, but is new in Panthera. She is 100% Rumanian, and indeed has A- cup. Her service is on F39 / Panthera level, and she is not afraid of some public action.

Good to see more and more F39 and Babylon girls come here, so the high service level continues the main USP of this club!

Banana Boi
04-20-14, 18:46
With the influx of the Blue Note girls I'm considering HP. Is there a noticeable difference in number of girls between a Tu / Wed vs. A Fri / Sat afternoon?

Being a face guy preferring girls under 30 (raising the age for HP) are these girls here in the early afternoon or do they come around 5 pm like many other clubs?

Still 40 euro for 30 min and 50 euro entry?

JayJay28
04-20-14, 19:24
With the influx of the Blue Note girls I'm considering HP. Is there a noticeable difference in number of girls between a Tu / Wed vs. A Fri / Sat afternoon?

Being a face guy preferring girls under 30 (raising the age for HP) are these girls here in the early afternoon or do they come around 5 pm like many other clubs?

Still 40 euro for 30 min and 50 euro entry?I don't know the lineup for weekend as I can only go to HP during the week, but the lineup of girls working around noon till late afternoon is pretty god, at least OK. A mix of young and old with a light advantage for the youth. Entry is 50 Euro + 10 Euro for the locker key (you will get them back at the end when you return the key). Session is 40 Euro for 30 min.

Trans Atlantic
04-21-14, 22:35
With the influx of the Blue Note girls I'm considering HP. Is there a noticeable difference in number of girls between a Tu / Wed vs. A Fri / Sat afternoon?

Being a face guy preferring girls under 30 (raising the age for HP) are these girls here in the early afternoon or do they come around 5 pm like many other clubs?

Still 40 euro for 30 min and 50 euro entry?
I don't know the lineup for weekend as I can only go to HP during the week, but the lineup of girls working around noon till late afternoon is pretty god, at least OK. A mix of young and old with a light advantage for the youth. Entry is 50 Euro + 10 Euro for the locker key (you will get them back at the end when you return the key). Session is 40 Euro for 30 min.I can confirm JayJay's pricing. In case you are not aware, you pay the girls after the session. The old system was you pay the theke when you leave.

I wouldn't show up before 1500-1600 on weekdays.

Maxime
04-24-14, 16:29
With the influx of the Blue Note girls I'm considering HP. Is there a noticeable difference in number of girls between a Tu / Wed vs. A Fri / Sat afternoon?

Being a face guy preferring girls under 30 (raising the age for HP) are these girls here in the early afternoon or do they come around 5 pm like many other clubs?

Still 40 euro for 30 min and 50 euro entry?There is indeed a noticeable difference between Tu / We (around 15-18 girls) and Fri / Sat (around 22-26 girls). Most girls re there around 13:00, some come later, but those are the more older ones mainly.

Pricing is like you write.

Enjoy!

Banana Boi
04-24-14, 19:14
Thanks Maxime, JayJay, and TA. About what time do the younger ones (Blue Note girls?) get there?

I have HP penciled in for a Thursday afternoon.

Tedesco
04-25-14, 06:47
thanks for this information. i'm a regular user of pubic transports (blue note was easy to go) , but panthera unfortunately is more than far away taking the bus from duesseldorf hbf. considering that i take the highspeed train from frankfurt (sometimes not more than 85 minutes ride) , the final run (12 kilometers?) is very time expensive. but in order to see my former blue note favourites (ewa, melodie / laura, marina e. g.) it was worth doing so four weeks ago.

JayJay28
04-25-14, 21:21

TankTank123
04-26-14, 02:50
Bus 757 comes at 30 minute intervals, and the last time I took it, it only came about 20 minutes after the arrival of the S bahn. The bus then takes ages to plough through the town, and then there is the long walk to get to HP.
After that experience, I switched on a few occasions to taking a taxi from Ratingen Ost. However, 2 weeks ago, I concluded that taking a taxi from Dusseldorf itself (€27) would be more worthwhile as it saves me more than an hour each way and time for me is precious as I do not reside on Germany.

Creature2
04-26-14, 18:30
There is indeed a noticeable difference between Tu / We (around 15-18 girls) and Fri / Sat (around 22-26 girls). Most girls re there around 13:00, some come later, but those are the more older ones mainly.

Pricing is like you write.

Enjoy!Hi MAxime,

For Sunday, I could not decide where to go? I may visit Haus tomorrow, What about the line-up on Sunday? Weaker or same?

Thanks in advance

Maxime
04-27-14, 18:48
Hi MAxime,

For Sunday, I could not decide where to go? I may visit Haus tomorrow, What about the line-up on Sunday? Weaker or same?

Thanks in advanceProbably too late with my response, but in general on Sunday there are 12-15 girls present and not too many men.

Did you go today?

Creature2
04-28-14, 05:19
Probably too late with my response, but in general on Sunday there are 12-15 girls present and not too many men.

Did you go today?Hello Maxime,

I didn't go on Sunday (went somewhere else). I postponed Haus Panthera for today, Monday in the afternoon till late evening. I guess HP is a safer bet compared to ACA (regarding the service quality, it is warranted by the house, no?)

Creature2
04-28-14, 23:18
Very disappointing Monday in HP. I came in at 4 pm and stayed 6 hours in the club.

When I called earlier, the lady on the phone told there were 20 girls, but according to my counting, there were less girls.

Only Evelina (BUL) intrigued my attention and the session with her was ok. Apart from her I saw some few other nice girls but didn't initiated.

HP could be real slow some week days.

Diet Coke
04-29-14, 21:43
About 2:24PM caught the 752 bus from Dusseldorf Hbf. Half way there I checked daypack and discovered I had left my map at hotel. Great. I had sat it out and glanced at it. Hoped I could remember the route from the Annastrasse stop. Turned out I found the way in about 6 minutes. What a relief. Had a beer and some smokes outside and eventually joined by Celina and we chatted a little, did not speak much Deutsch and even less English. She started DFK for awhile and reached in my robe and roused my little friend, so off to the room. More DFK and then to bed and I indicated a slow BJ. Close to following directions. After some time asked for condom I went to the mission for the finish. She said she was from Bulgaria. 27 and I think she said she had been there 7 days. Did not notice any tattoos. Maybe 5' 6-7. Hard to communicate. Only 15+ minutes in room.

More beer and smokes and saw some guys eating but nothing in room where food had been. I asked and found out you ordered from a menu and got it later. My order was slow in coming and actually was given the wrong one.

Later a motioned Celina's partner Nadya (sp?) to join me. When I had been outside the two were there and she had said she spoke English, more than her friend. She had longish, curly strands of part blondish / dark hair. I thought she had a cute face but she wore a corset type thing that I supposed hid some extra belly. DFK on couch and to room. Full breasts and the biggish belly was revealed. BJ and missionary, but eventually wilted. She tried more BBJ but failed to revive me. Turned out her English was not much at all. Seemed to indicate she was 22 years and had been at HP for 5 days. 20 minutes and done.

Reordered the meal I had asked for before and got it about 15 minutes later.

Some time later I saw a youngish looking dark haired girl sitting without her regular blonde partner. I joined her on couch, talked a bit. Romanian. She could understand English some but little Deutsch. I though her very cute. Some kissing on couch, not DFK and I suggest the room.

Her working name was Daria and she said she was 21 and had been there 1 day but had worked in Nuremburg before. She was maybe 5' 9' or 8'. In room standing caress, LK, etc. Then too bed where I asked for slow BJ which she did and then suggest 69 and we spent some time at that. Then to mission for awhile and then doggie for the finish. She had an angel tattoo on her stomach and I think a mole around or below her neck. Later outside when she and her blonde friend were outside, I noticed she had another tattoo on the underside of her wrist. It looked like a name. 20+ minutes. She was easily the most appealing to me. Often I am reluctant to approach when they are in groups. Had another beer and asked reception to get a taxi while I dressed. Left around 8 and taxi was ready. To Ratingen-OST and back. I think an average more girls then guys. Maybe 15 girls.

BigBuddy69
05-19-14, 15:37
I was at the Panthera for the fourth time.

Got here early, I had the joy to shower with Paula but after, the girls disappeared and I was left alone in the club...

Too bad that many of the hot girls from February were not here this day. No Michelle, no Julia (left for good), no Melanie (left for good too), no Luciana, no Larissa, no Marianna, no Nicole, no Denisa, no Evelina..

Some of the girls are getting sharky: Corina, Monika, Shila..

1 h with Paula: great. GFE, pussy sliding, perfect sex. She just has strange tastes in music..

1 h with Jacky. Best body of the club with Paula. Great as Paula! Pussy sliding, GFE, great sex. No strange tastes!

More than half an hour with Cindy. Not really my kind of girl but she was nice and did her best to make me hard and to make me come (she succeed). Very nice price since we were in the kino for 15 minutes and in the room for more than 30. Warning: she's an ear-biter.

1 h with Bianca. Very smart girl but I was getting tired and she can't hande all the positions (because of the anaconda). So no finish for me.

Good day in HP, despite the absence of many girls. The club can be a little boring when you're alone.

TankTank123
05-19-14, 15:45
Got here early, I had the joy to shower with Paula but after, the girls disappeared and I was left alone in the club...

Too bad that many of the hot girls from February were not here this day. No Michelle, no Julia (left for good), no Melanie (left for good too), no Luciana, no Larissa, no Marianna, no Nicole, no Denisa, no Evelina..Yes, as reported in my 12th April post, I experienced exactly the same disappearing act after the shower. Where on earth do they go to? They weren't in the open area upstairs either.

Fortunately for me, after a one hour wait, watching others have couch action with MILFs, Denisa and Annamaria reappeared, and I took them in succession. But I forgot to ask them where they went.

Diet Coke
06-10-14, 20:28
Yes, as reported in my 12th April post, I experienced exactly the same disappearing act after the shower. Where on earth do they go to? They weren't in the open area upstairs either.

Fortunately for me, after a one hour wait, watching others have couch action with MILFs, Denisa and Annamaria reappeared, and I took them in succession. But I forgot to ask them where they went.What and where is this? I was there twice and did not know of it. I think I read on a German board about the roof terrace.

Free Dude
06-10-14, 20:53
It's on the roof. So after you go up the stairs to the second floor, you go left towards the wellness, but before you get there you find another flight of stairs to the roof. Quite a bit of fucking taking place there, while the airplanes fly over.

Trans Atlantic
06-10-14, 22:54
It's on the roof. So after you go up the stairs to the second floor, you go left towards the wellness, but before you get there you find another flight of stairs to the roof. Quite a bit of fucking taking place there, while the airplanes fly over.Go up the spiral staircase.

Interesting views for the passengers arriving into DUS as HP is adjacent to the approach for runways 23L and 23R.

Diet Coke
06-11-14, 05:12
Go up the spiral staircase.

Interesting views for the passengers arriving into DUS as HP is adjacent to the approach for runways 23L and 23R.I was looking at one of the German boards and they have pictures of all the areas there and had pics of the spiral staircase and roof terrace.

BillAgain
06-22-14, 23:48
Are there clocks in the rooms? I have only been to two clubs, Samya and PSR and both awesomely featured clocks in the rooms so no one had to go fumbling about for a phone / watch.

Edit: Another question. Others have stated that the list of working girls on their website changes day-to-day to reflect who is working, however I am not seeing any changes as of late and the sheer number listed seem to exceed the reported number of girls that are normally present. They seem to just list all the girls now...am I wrong?

BigBuddy69
06-23-14, 06:03
There are clocks in the room and the list does not reflect the presence of the girls.

Sanuk327
06-24-14, 01:02
Do they accept credit cards for entrance fee?

Maxime
06-30-14, 09:34
Do they accept credit cards for entrance fee?Yep, mastercard, visa, and even maestro (debit card).

Breadman
06-30-14, 19:43
What's going on with Panthera's website? They used to have it updated daily showing who was working, lately its anybody's guess as to who might be working that day. And what's with the 30 new names without any photo's? What's the point in having a website if your not going to update it regularly?

Free Dude
06-30-14, 20:14
What's going on with Panthera's website? They used to have it updated daily showing who was working, lately its anybody's guess as to who might be working that day. And what's with the 30 new names without any photo's? What's the point in having a website if your not going to update it regularly?They stopped doing that months ago, as men where acting entitled and making a fuss if a girl went home early or some such.

Tedesco
06-30-14, 22:44
They stopped doing that months ago, as men where acting entitled and making a fuss if a girl went home early or some such.That's a problem I was facing also in Samya in the last years, when guests came in with a kind of personal sheet containing all the names tehy expected to be "on alert".

Especially in smaller clubs like Panthera it might be better not to promote a daily line-up, if there isn't a clear chance to realize it. I only know a few women of Panthera (from former Blue Note) and, with the exception of Ewa, they try to match both family and club. That's not always easy. But I understand very well that potential visitors may be confused and disappointed to see a girls' description without any pictures.

Ableyone
07-01-14, 21:24
How busy does it get on a Saturday night; worth a visit or best avoided on this evening?

Breadman
07-02-14, 05:32
That's a problem I was facing also in Samya in the last years, when guests came in with a kind of personal sheet containing all the names tehy expected to be "on alert".

Especially in smaller clubs like Panthera it might be better not to promote a daily line-up, if there isn't a clear chance to realize it. I only know a few women of Panthera (from former Blue Note) and, with the exception of Ewa, they try to match both family and club. That's not always easy. But I understand very well that potential visitors may be confused and disappointed to see a girls' description without any pictures.Then why so many names without photo's? If your going to promote that you have that many girls, it looks odd that 85% of your girls don't have any photo's up. I can see 25% possibly wanting to remain private but not almost their entire roster. 47 girls on their website and only 16 with photo's. Again, why bother listing the girls if your not going to show some photo's.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not 'picking' on the club but looking at potential new clubs to visit on my next trip. And I'll be honest and say its lost my business because their website didn't keep my interest. How many other potential customers clicked that red X in the top right corner after looking at their lineup?

BigBuddy69
07-02-14, 07:12
How busy does it get on a Saturday night; worth a visit or best avoided on this evening?According to the french board, it can be very crowded on a Saturday night, with MEN!

Wolvenvacht
07-03-14, 21:52
Gents,

I am planning a visit to this venerable institution of carnal pleasures and I have walked through the forum postings, but could not find an answer to the following questions:

* Are there regularly exotic girls (Asian, black, latin, caribbean, ...) available?

* Is WiFi available?

BigBuddy69
07-03-14, 21:57
No wifi and at least one black girl (Shila), maybe more now.

Wolvenvacht
07-04-14, 19:12
No wifi and at least one black girl (Shila), maybe more now.If she happens to be available when I'm there, is she worth a try?

BigBuddy69
07-04-14, 19:18
I can't tell, I'm not into black girls but some fellow french comrades like her.

Maxime
07-06-14, 08:38
* Are there regularly exotic girls (Asian, black, latin, caribbean, ...) available?

* Is WiFi available?Besides Sheela (Shila), who is really black girl, there is another latin girl present now. Sometimes 1 or 2 more. Sheela has very good reviews, but no personal experience because it is not really my taste.

No WIFI, but you can bring your own hotspot (as some punters do, just buy a local data sim) => beware, smartphones, etc are not allowed in most club areas, only in the silence room it is kind of ok.

Sanuk327
07-11-14, 04:19
After visiting Samya on Saturday (and watching two soccer games there), traveled from Cologne to Dusseldorf on Monday morning by RE train. Took hop-on-hop-off city tour from Dusseldorf Hbf and intended to take S6 to Ratingen Ost. At Dus Hbf was told that Ratingen line terminates now only at Dusseldorf Rath because of tracks construction. Saw huge people line at the bus stop, so took cab to Tryp hotel in Ratingen since I was scheduled to fly out of DUS the following morning. Checked in the hotel and start walking to Haus Panthera. It is only 1 km (12 min) easy walk, passed Peugeot dealer, turned left, then after 400 m turned first right, and then another 300 m to Panthera. By the way, Tryp hotel is fully renovated, has excellent interior and breakfast, and shuttle to DUS airport.

Rooms in the hotel have one unique feature- glass shower cabins are located directly in the room. As front desk clerk said. Some people like it, some not. Walked in the club along long narrow alley between two fences, rang the bell. Very good mannered lady opened the door, took Euro50 (cash only) + Euro10 deposit for locker key (refundable). She took me on a tour of the club, showed all facilities, including roof top. Explained that I can have only 2 meals (ordered from menu) and unlimited drinks (beer, soda, etc). BTW, food was excellent, like in good German restaurant. Beer was both draft and bottled. I took shower and entered the bar area. Saw many leather sofas and beds and also tables to eat. There were 14 girls that Monday night (the mama told) and 5-7 guys (mostly in their 50th and 60th). I immediately noticed a girl (Marina), not young (38) but with good body and pretty face, very friendly. We started talking, she ordered food for me, poured bear, we started kissing and hugging right away (I could not resist). They have FKK days Thursday, Friday and Saturday, so girls were in bikinis. But couples did not shy and did all actions in open areas (despite they have private rooms). Several couples were openly fucking on sofas and leather beds, nobody paid any attention. Marina suggested also stay in open area (first such experience for me). She provided real GFE (long DFK, BBBJ, 69, multiple positions). I came in her mouth and she did not charge me extra. We spent 1 hour (Euro80), I gave her Euro20 tip (which she at first refused to take). I left shortly afterwards as I had early morning flight back to States. Marina works Mon, Tue and Wed one week and Wed, Thu and Fri the following week. She has another job on other days and travels from Liverkusen. She stays in the club overnight when working. I will definitely come back to Panthera and I liked it much better than Samya.

Maxime
07-20-14, 21:40
Since the summer holidays are coming, many girls went home and the line up is getting less attractive. But even now around 20 girls, of which half good looking (and as always almost all with a good service, in this club management knows how to let the girls become customer oriented and offer extensive pre-sales and always DFK and OWO, even outside the room if required))).

Good (looking) girls currently are Denisa, Michelle, Sabrina, Diana, Luciana, Evelina, Paula, etc. Also there were 4 new girls, 3 Rumanian, 1 Cuba. Not the most beautiful ones, but ok.

Jimmy Boy 99
08-04-14, 03:26
Went on an FKK day (Thursday-Saturday) so could see the girls naked. Not a good decision. Horrific lineup, mostly old, fat, and ugly. Did one reasonably nice-looking blonde from Romania. Went to the terrace to avoid the hot rooms. She started the blow-job there but there was nowhere comfortable to fuck so went to a room. We had a good session and went to the locker to pay her. Gave her the Euro 40 for the half-hour but she said that we had spent 40 minutes since the time started with the blow-job (so much for the vaunted Panthera girls' service). I told her that I thought the time started in the room and the pre-room blow-job didn't count towards the time but she said I was mistaken (I later confirmed with another girl that the time does start in the room). I told her that since I was going to be paying for an hour, we needed to go back and finish the rest of the time remaining, which we did.

Later talked to a reasonable attractive brunette from Romania. During our discussion it became clear that she was not interested in short sessions (she had recently fucked a guy on the couch outside for three hours) and that she liked to fuck, talk, relax, etc. in long sessions. I told her that I did not come there to talk but to fuck. She said I was not the type of customer she liked and left to talk to another guy, who apparently met her criteria, as she went with him to the room.

There was another girl who was fuckable but I never approached her as I was getting ready to leave for Acapulco. The tally was 3 out of 12-15 girls fuckable, and service unimpressive at best. No need to bother with this place when you have Acapulco and Magnum nearby.

Breadman
08-04-14, 18:00
Went on an FKK day (Thursday-Saturday) so could see the girls naked. Not a good decision. Horrific lineup, mostly old, fat, and ugly. Did one reasonably nice-looking blonde from Romania. Went to the terrace to avoid the hot rooms. She started the blow-job there but there was nowhere comfortable to fuck so went to a room. We had a good session and went to the locker to pay her. Gave her the Euro 40 for the half-hour but she said that we had spent 40 minutes since the time started with the blow-job (so much for the vaunted Panthera girls' service). I told her that I thought the time started in the room and the pre-room blow-job didn't count towards the time but she said I was mistaken (I later confirmed with another girl that the time does start in the room). I told her that since I was going to be paying for an hour, we needed to go back and finish the rest of the time remaining, which we did.

Later talked to a reasonable attractive brunette from Romania. During our discussion it became clear that she was not interested in short sessions (she had recently fucked a guy on the couch outside for three hours) and that she liked to fuck, talk, relax, etc. in long sessions. I told her that I did not come there to talk but to fuck. She said I was not the type of customer she liked and left to talk to another guy, who apparently met her criteria, as she went with him to the room.

There was another girl who was fuckable but I never approached her as I was getting ready to leave for Acapulco. The tally was 3 out of 12-15 girls fuckable, and service unimpressive at best. No need to bother with this place when you have Acapulco and Magnum nearby.Saved me some money again Jimmy, was going to swing by F39 and Panthera but since your taste's run the same as mine, I'll avoid like the plague. Flags are risen when a club quits showing 'who's working' on their website. Is it just laziness or are they afraid of losing customers who see a weak lineup?

Tedesco
08-04-14, 20:03
....... noticed a girl (Marina), not young (38) but with good body and pretty face, very friendly ....I know Marina since many years (already from Blue Note which closed in December 2013). Marina is an excellent P.

6 lady and her service is today as excellent as in 2006 when I shared the first time a room with her. Same for Melodie and Ewa who both I also know from Blue Note. With Ewa I share the room since 10 (ten) years. That's duration in P6 with high yield over all the years.

Sanuk327
08-04-14, 22:07
I know Marina since many years (already from Blue Note which closed in December 2013). Marina is an excellent P.

6 lady and her service is today as excellent as in 2006 when I shared the first time a room with her. Same for Melodie and Ewa who both I also know from Blue Note. With Ewa I share the room since 10 (ten) years. That's duration in P6 with high yield over all the years.Just called to Panthera and was told that Marina will not be in after Wednesday. I am flying to DUS on Thursday and need replacement. I see Melodie and Ewa above, who else? Need good GFE. Will definitely miss Marina.

Sanuk327
08-08-14, 23:13
It was my first FKK visit to Panthera. When I entered this narrow alley towards the entrance, it reminded me a tunnel to haven. Since Marina was off, I asked receptionist about girls with similar personality, and she mentioned Ewa, Melodie and new girl from Lithuania Samantha. She noted that Melodie was leaving at 7 pm, so I decided to skip (arrived at 5 pm). Girls were naked but wearing kind of belts without bottom. After 10 PM most girls dropped these belts. It was BBQ day so no food by menu. BBQ was very good and grilled to order (very tender pork, chicken, sausages), vegies, fruits. I decided to start with Ewa, she is very sweet, tries to please (BTW, CIM in Panthera is 20 euros, not 25. Ewa explained that many girls take advantage and charge 25). We had session in Penthause, on the roof. They have nice bed at the right corner, the weather was warm, while inside was a little hot. Her BBBJ was a little hard, probably trying to make me come faster, so I slowed her down. Overall service 8/10. Then I had 2 hour recovery break, eating, drinking and talking to girls. I liked German girl (I believe Melissa with black curly hair and huge tits size the, very friendly. She is from Essen, we started kissing, but suddenly an angry guy came up, told her something in German, she said sorry and went with him. Then I talked to a black girl Shila, also very sweet but was not in the mood for this kind of exotic experience that day. I noticed that Shila was in good demand taken by at least 3 guys (that was I saw).

I was waiting for Samantha to become avail for more than an hour. When she came, I immediately realized she is right for me. She is 23, flying bi-weekly home to Lithuania to see her daughter. While in Germany 2 weeks, she lives in Panthera and works every day. She worked in Dortmund for 8 months before switching to Panthera 1 week ago. She was very unhappy in Dortmund when club was mostly Turkish and some guys, she said, abused her. She likes Panthera very much. Since outside on rooftop was already cool, we decided to stay in one of open areas inside. Every 5 minutes she asked "Do you like me, am I good?" At some point she said "I want to suck your dick, please". I was impressed by her service. She also charged 20 for CIM and we agreed that next time we will do threesome with her and Marina (I don't know when I will be back). She gave me her email so we can coordinate her schedule and Marina's. Overall service 9/10. Both sessions were 1 hour each, total damage 250 euros (50 entry, 1 hour 80/ each, CIM 20/ each).

She told me about confrontations between Romanian girls and others. Romanians may be 70% of total and she said they always complain that other girls steal clients from them. 2-3 Romanian girls approached me during evening but were let go. At the very end around 12:30, when I took shower in men's shower room, a Romanian girl Corina saw me and started taking shower next to me. Then suddenly she grabbed my dick and attempted to kiss. I told her. Next time will do, to calm her down, but I myself realized how desperate these girls are to make money.

Today I made side trip to Munster, beautiful town 100 km away, has great lunch in German restaurant, visited Picasso museum and other sites. Tomorrow will go to Babylon (or Residenz) - still undecided.

Mambomike
08-10-14, 03:59
I started at Panthera at 1700 today. 12 girls, all but one was not too attractive, but they do start things out with a public BJ. After an uninspiring meal and two 30 minute sessions, I cut my loses and arrived at 2230 at Samya, where it was instantaneous boner time, all hot girls at Samya.

Banana Boi
08-10-14, 04:41
Mambomike, good that you did both a 'service' club and a 'looks' club on day 1. Now you can judge for yourself the quality and quantity both have to offer.

Maxime
08-10-14, 10:08
Optically the lineup is indeed weak this time of year. Only Luciana (RO) is in the "optic great" category and offering good service (as most do here in HP) and maybe Sabrina (RO).

Samantha (LT) is indeed a graduate from the Akademsky Oralsky, but, to put it mildly, is one of the few Russian (Lithuanian) girls I know I would NOT pick up when met in a regular bar, since she misses the Russians (normally great) looks. For a great session in a dark room perfectly though. :) :-)

BTW, Elena (RO) is back, and apparently was spoiled by her family with good food LOL :) :-)
Also smiling Mari is back as well as Bamby.

Beauties Evelina, Jacky, Denisa, Diana, Lori, etc were not present.

So for good service with good optics, Babylon seems a better place currently.

Breadman
08-10-14, 16:18
So for good service with good optics, Babylon seems a better place currently.Isn't Babylon owned by a Frenchman? And your handle "maxime" has a french ring to it. Would you be French by chance?

Maxime
08-10-14, 23:20
Isn't Babylon owned by a Frenchman? And your handle "maxime" has a french ring to it. Would you be French by chance?The owner of Babylon is from Wallonie (southern Belgium, close to France). I have nothing with France or Belgium, why do you ask? Are you English because your name includes Bread?

Mambomike
08-11-14, 01:40
Well, day 2 included Goldentime for me. Wow. Even the staff girls and TF would be the top optics by a long shot if the goldentome staff was at Haus Panthera. And even with the top optics, I found two very good gf6 at Goldentime that blew away the service I found at Haus Panthera.

I actually liked Haus Panthera club. It has a ton of potential, but they need to attract better women.


Mambomike, good that you did both a 'service' club and a 'looks' club on day 1. Now you can judge for yourself the quality and quantity both have to offer.

Sanuk327
08-11-14, 02:33
Optically the lineup is indeed weak this time of year. Only Luciana (RO) is in the "optic great" category and offering good service (as most do here in HP) and maybe Sabrina (RO).

Samantha (LT) is indeed a graduate from the Akademsky Oralsky, but, to put it mildly, is one of the few Russian (Lithuanian) girls I know I would NOT pick up when met in a regular bar, since she misses the Russians (normally great) looks. For a great session in a dark room perfectly though. :) :-)

BTW, Elena (RO) is back, and apparently was spoiled by her family with good food LOL :) :-)
Also smiling Mari is back as well as Bamby.

Beauties Evelina, Jacky, Denisa, Diana, Lori, etc were not present.

So for good service with good optics, Babylon seems a better place currently.Samantha is not Russian but Lithuanian (different nationality, language and look), but speaks decent Russian because lives in the city with large Russian population. Lithuanian girls look more like Polish or Czech (while not Slavic). She lacks German completely and for that reason was rejected by Samya and GT (she said). She speaks English with customers. Agree that line-up in Panthera was worth than a month ago and much worth than in Babylon. While having 2-3 decent girls, the average level was low. The service was good as usually. I will write Babylon report tomorrow.

Sapper
08-11-14, 08:10
Is HP ok on a Sunday? My tastes are for service rather than just looks, but would like a reasonable number to choose from.

Thanks,

Sapper

Maxime
08-11-14, 10:53
Samantha is indeed from Vilnius, but has Russian father and Lithuanian mother, so has a mix of these (indeed different) cultures. Her skin and oral skills are really Russian quality, her eyes and figure more Lithuanian / Polnish. Optically I like 100% Russian more to be honest, but she is a very nice girl and speaks English reasonably good.

Let's hope all optics (like JAcky, Evelina, Denisa, Diana, etc) are back soon in Panthera.

Mambomike
08-19-14, 00:32
Perspective: This is my second trip to German FKK / Saunaclubs. Former clubs visited included two days at Oase, one day at Samya, one day at Bernds, and a private gangbang in Duisburg.

Girls seen: Larissa (BU) blonde, best looking; a somewhat overweight HU girl whose name I did not get (brown eyes and hair, natural somewhat sagging tits). Most girls were nude, or nearly nude, FKK style, including Larissa. Some wore some sort of sexy clothing, instead of being nude.

I was going to go directly to my hotel in Koln and Samya for the Saturday evening festivities, but I was persuaded by a recommendation and Haus Panthera web site pictures to make a stop here. I was also partially persuaded that it had an outside deck, service-oriented girls, and it was 'grill week'. I thought that if I did not like Haus Panthera, I could proceed onto my original plan to Samya.

After picking up my BMW from the car rental agency, I used my trusty GPS to find an ATM in Ratingen for cash, nearby Haus Panthera, which was not difficult to find (except I would be lost without the GPS). Parking spaces are on the side and back of the club under a canopy – one of the nicer features.

Entry was as advertised (50+10 euro deposit), I was given a robe and towel, and shown the locker area. The showers are a little down the hall to the left, open to the people wandering the hall between the bar and the reception. You actually hang your robe in the hallway and walk nude into the shower, which was a little strange but you get used to it.

After finding some shower shoes and showering, I found my way into the lounge and began exploring. I noticed the girls looking at me with an interest (in my 40 euro), but I wanted to relax and get used to the place. The bar is on one end of the lounge, where many girls hang out, and sofas around the edge and other side, where the DJ set up is located. Past the bar is an entry to the patio area, where the grill and buffet were set up.

Over toward the showers again, there is a fridge with beer for your taking, a kino with a small TV playing (bad) porno and a few sofas, and a 'love' room with a bed that is partially exposed to passerby and others sitting in the room. This is a good area for public sex, if anyone cares to watch. Next to this room, stairs lead to the second floor with rooms and a third floor wellness area. Going up the stairs one more floor, leads out onto an outdoor terrace, where I found Larissa having oral sex with another client on a mattress. Chairs allowed for relaxation (which I did) and smoking (which I don't).

Back downstairs, it was around dinnertime, so I decided to grab some (non-girl) meat (chicken) while checking out the girls. The food was not good to ok. I also hung out a bit on the top floor terrace, but there were almost no girls out there then.

Larissa: After dinner, I literally ran into her in the hallway and determined that she was free. And since during my prior wanderings, she seemed the only girl there that was attractive enough to have sex with me, I took her immediately for a session. Before going up, Larissa gave me some kissing and a quick BJ in the kino. In a second floor room, she was not very responsive to DATY, gave an ok BJ, and finished in a covered mish. Nothing special – 30 min; 40 euro paid after session.

I thought I might stick around a bit more and just see what came around. I was mildly interested in a black girl there and was kind of checking her out while she entertained another client. That is when XXX, a somewhat overweight HU girl kind of attacked me on the lounge sofa. Ok – so here is this nude girl kissing me, her tongue nearly down my throat – what is a guy to do? I let her start giving me a BJ on the sofa, out in the middle of the lounge, which according to FKK protocol seals the deal for a zimmer. Oh, BTW, XXX had smokers breath – on of the worst I experiences this week in NRW. So instead of going upstairs, I invited her into the open bed 'love' room, where XXX led me to the bed for some public action, although no one was really in there watching (which would actually be a turn on for me). The BJ was ok and XXX applied the cover before mounting me CG. Well, I still cannot tell you why, but I went soft (on only the 2nd girl in a 21-girl 5-day trip, with three more girls had at Samya later that night).

Seeing no one else of any interest, I decided it was time to go, about 7 pm.

Fazit: I really liked the layout of the club. It had real potential if the food was better and the girls were better looking. Actually later in the trip, girls at a flat rate club were actually better looking girl for girl than the ones at Haus Panthera. I'the actually go there again if they attracted better looking girls, even if the increased the rates to NRW standard pricing and kept the service level the same as it is now.

Maxime
08-19-14, 18:02
Thanks for the report. Pity you took really the worst girl present in HP: Larissa. Optics are ok, but her oral skills are way below what I consider as "good enough".

You'd better had gone with her girlfriend Luiciana. Even better looks and a great experience in the room!

XXX probably is Sheila? Never was with her, totally not my taste.

Optically in HP the stunners are Luciana, Diana, Evelina, Michelle, Sabrina, Paula and Jacky. All not there?

BTW, which flatrate club you visited which had a good line up?

Mambomike
08-19-14, 19:25
There was noone even remotely close to being a stunner.

Simex
08-20-14, 14:28
I thought Maxime said there are no stunners in Nrw.


There was noone even remotely close to being a stunner.

Simex
08-20-14, 14:30
You did very well to stay until 7 pm.


Perspective: This is my second trip to German FKK / Saunaclubs. Former clubs visited included two days at Oase, one day at Samya, one day at Bernds, and a private gangbang in Duisburg.

Girls seen: Larissa (BU) blonde, best looking; a somewhat overweight HU girl whose name I did not get (brown eyes and hair, natural somewhat sagging tits). Most girls were nude, or nearly nude, FKK style, including Larissa. Some wore some sort of sexy clothing, instead of being nude.

I was going to go directly to my hotel in Koln and Samya for the Saturday evening festivities, but I was persuaded by a recommendation and Haus Panthera web site pictures to make a stop here. I was also partially persuaded that it had an outside deck, service-oriented girls, and it was 'grill week'. I thought that if I did not like Haus Panthera, I could proceed onto my original plan to Samya.

After picking up my BMW from the car rental agency, I used my trusty GPS to find an ATM in Ratingen for cash, nearby Haus Panthera, which was not difficult to find (except I would be lost without the GPS). Parking spaces are on the side and back of the club under a canopy one of the nicer features.

Entry was as advertised (50+10 euro deposit), I was given a robe and towel, and shown the locker area. The showers are a little down the hall to the left, open to the people wandering the hall between the bar and the reception. You actually hang your robe in the hallway and walk nude into the shower, which was a little strange but you get used to it.

After finding some shower shoes and showering, I found my way into the lounge and began exploring. I noticed the girls looking at me with an interest (in my 40 euro), but I wanted to relax and get used to the place. The bar is on one end of the lounge, where many girls hang out, and sofas around the edge and other side, where the DJ set up is located. Past the bar is an entry to the patio area, where the grill and buffet were set up.

Over toward the showers again, there is a fridge with beer for your taking, a kino with a small TV playing (bad) porno and a few sofas, and a 'love' room with a bed that is partially exposed to passerby and others sitting in the room. This is a good area for public sex, if anyone cares to watch. Next to this room, stairs lead to the second floor with rooms and a third floor wellness area. Going up the stairs one more floor, leads out onto an outdoor terrace, where I found Larissa having oral sex with another client on a mattress. Chairs allowed for relaxation (which I did) and smoking (which I don't).

Back downstairs, it was around dinnertime, so I decided to grab some (non-girl) meat (chicken) while checking out the girls. The food was not good to ok. I also hung out a bit on the top floor terrace, but there were almost no girls out there then.

Larissa: After dinner, I literally ran into her in the hallway and determined that she was free. And since during my prior wanderings, she seemed the only girl there that was attractive enough to have sex with me, I took her immediately for a session. Before going up, Larissa gave me some kissing and a quick BJ in the kino. In a second floor room, she was not very responsive to DATY, gave an ok BJ, and finished in a covered mish. Nothing special 30 min; 40 euro paid after session.

I thought I might stick around a bit more and just see what came around. I was mildly interested in a black girl there and was kind of checking her out while she entertained another client. That is when XXX, a somewhat overweight HU girl kind of attacked me on the lounge sofa. Ok so here is this nude girl kissing me, her tongue nearly down my throat what is a guy to do? I let her start giving me a BJ on the sofa, out in the middle of the lounge, which according to FKK protocol seals the deal for a zimmer. Oh, BTW, XXX had smokers breath on of the worst I experiences this week in NRW. So instead of going upstairs, I invited her into the open bed 'love' room, where XXX led me to the bed for some public action, although no one was really in there watching (which would actually be a turn on for me). The BJ was ok and XXX applied the cover before mounting me CG. Well, I still cannot tell you why, but I went soft (on only the 2nd girl in a 21-girl 5-day trip, with three more girls had at Samya later that night).

Seeing no one else of any interest, I decided it was time to go, about 7 pm.

Fazit: I really liked the layout of the club. It had real potential if the food was better and the girls were better looking. Actually later in the trip, girls at a flat rate club were actually better looking girl for girl than the ones at Haus Panthera. I'the actually go there again if they attracted better looking girls, even if the increased the rates to NRW standard pricing and kept the service level the same as it is now.

Sanuk327
08-20-14, 19:59
You did very well to stay until 7 pm.I think there is no reason to go to Panthera for stunners, there are other places for that.

For me Panthera (and next Babylon) provides the best GFE.

I am also getting turn on while having sex in open space areas.