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Onadlos
02-03-13, 05:57
hi everyone,

i've been reading the japan forum for a while and sadly found little information on enjo kosai.

most people seem to be doing just fine with the great supply of freebies and clubs.

let me remind you that this forum is mostly about paying for sex and this is exactly why i believe a thread needs to be created to gather information about this very unique kind of prostitution.

japan is sure famous for its weird conception of sexuality, but enjo kosai is something unique i've never seen anywhere else.

for those who never heard about it, enjo kosai means compensated date and refers to students having sex in exchange for money or gifts. so far nothing new but japan just takes it to a whole new level."salary men" can meet girls through various and obscure ways including "telekura", some place with phones and they put you in contact with a random high schoolgirls. that plus the love hotel scene and the uniforms, and you get the most socially regulated ever student prostitution.

i've been googling about it and it looks like japanese girls are not really shy and don't hesitate to sell their body to older men to buy lv bags, iphones and other stuff. apparently it's really common and as much as 20 to 30% of japanese girls have done it at some point. it's partly because of the social pressure of the peers to own expensive stuff as well as a very different attitude towards sex that most of us already know in asia. very different from our christian based idea that sex and marriage necessarily have to be associated with love and values. in asia only the result matters, not how you get there. if you have to marry and old fat bald man to get a better social status, then so be it, it's pretty common and doesn't make you look the way it does here.

these numbers can't really be verified, but just look at how many teens do porn or naked pics in japan compared to our countries, and you'll get the idea. it's insane.

anyway i live in europe and everyday i see hundreds of japanese tourists buying lv bags and some of them you know where they get the money from the way they look (very slutty ). i am not in japan, but i don't need to because i get insane action here just talking to the lonely japanese girls in or outside departement stores, but i am really curious about enjo kosai and when i come back to japan i'd like to see how much action can foreigner get with 19 year old jap students this way. also, i like paying for sex because it puts you in a power position (you're the boss) and you don't waste time dating and listening to her crap (i have enough shit to deal with with girlfriends already). sometimes i really don't want to get to know the girl, if she's hot i just want action.

so any information, experience or story you have about it, post it, this is a subject where most of us foreigners have very little concrete knowledge and any information is welcome.

- is being a foreigner a problem an why?

- how and where to approach girls?

- possible networks, sites, apps, contacts or "friends" that can introduce girls to you?

- cities, places or regions where it's more common?

right now it seems the economy is pretty bad in japan so i believe it's a good moment because the supply is at its higest and the demand is not so good. counting on you guys to make this a great database, a wiki on enjo kosai.

Nino
08-25-13, 13:59
So any information, experience or story you have about it, post it, this is a subject where most of us foreigners have very little concrete knowledge and any information is welcome.

- Is being a foreigner a problem an why?

- How and where to approach girls?

- Possible networks, sites, apps, contacts or "friends" that can introduce girls to you?

- Cities, places or regions where it's more common?

I am neither familiar nor interested in the schoolgirl and telekura scene, but I used to have quite a number of very nice Japanese sex friends, who I found via "sugar daddy wanted" ads. Because of money problems, I have been inactive for quite a while, but recently got into the game again (and happily found a very cute 20-something student already, who I intend to stick with for a while, because she is really nice).

Anyway, as for your questions:

- being a foreigner.
Yes, being a foreigner limits chances right off the bat. If you don't speak Japanese, it practically eliminates them. On the other hand, money is the universal great equalizer. The more you are willing to pay, the more open doors you will find (unsurprisingly). Of course, you need to overcome the language barrier. Maybe have a Japanese friend translate the ads for you, and compose a message saying how generous you are, and that sorry you speak only English. Then send that to all the ads you are interested in. You might get lucky. On the other hand, from the tone of your message I get the feeling that youŽd really need a lot of money to compensate for your arrogant attitude. Sorry to say, but that is how you come across.

- approaching a girl.
The only way I familiar with is to search through Japanese bulletin boards (keijiban) in the deai (dating) section. (Note that I am not talking about paid sites where you have to register, most of those are scams.) I used to have a whole lot of sites bookmarked, but most of them closed or changed address during my absence. Anyway, right now I found one, and it worked great for me immediately (as I mentioned). As for telekura, I am really not interested in that sort of creepy scene.

- networks, sites.
I am wary of "networks" or "friends", since this is a very much private activitiy, which the nicer girls are not going to share or let others organize. But that is just me. Keep in mind that I am not talking about prostitution here. The English term would rather be "sugardaddy". I was going to post a site here, but re-reading your message and your rude tone, I deleted that. YouŽll have to find your own way.

- cities, places.
I am sure this exists all over Japan, but for obvious reasons to much smaller degree in small towns and a vice versa. Tokyo is of course the mother of all big cities.

Regards
Nino

Mike921
08-25-13, 17:38
Hi everyone,

I've been reading the Japan Forum for a while and sadly found little information on Enjo Kosai.

Most people seem to be doing just fine with the great supply of freebies and clubs.

Let me remind you that this forum is mostly about paying for sex and this is exactly why I believe a thread needs to be created to gather information about this very unique kind of prostitution.

Japan is sure famous for its weird conception of sexuality, but Enjo Kosai is something unique I've never seen anywhere else.Dude, enjo kosai was popular back in the day when the Japanese economy was great and the JAPANESE had lots of money to throw around. It was NEVER a gaijin thing.

I'm willing to wager you will be VERY disappointed when you get on the ground in Japan.

Nino
08-26-13, 04:35
Dude, enjo kosai was popular back in the day when the Japanese economy was great and the JAPANESE had lots of money to throw around. It was NEVER a gaijin thing.

I'm willing to wager you will be VERY disappointed when you get on the ground in Japan.


Well, as I pointed out to the OP, it does exist. There are plenty of ads by young girls in the deai section asking to meet a "papa" for a range of activities.

However, it is hardly the scene the OP imagines, and from the tone of his message, I agree he'the be seriously disappointed if he comes he and expects to find what he imagines (I. E. Some slutty, obedient sex kitten teenager). That is not how it works.

Shibuya
09-24-13, 19:22
OP, please do not come to Japan. This is probably the most ignorant and rude post I have seen.


Hi everyone,

I've been reading the Japan Forum for a while and sadly found little information on Enjo Kosai.

Most people seem to be doing just fine with the great supply of freebies and clubs.

Let me remind you that this forum is mostly about paying for sex and this is exactly why I believe a thread needs to be created to gather information about this very unique kind of prostitution.

Japan is sure famous for its weird conception of sexuality, but Enjo Kosai is something unique I've never seen anywhere else.

For those who never heard about it, Enjo Kosai means compensated date and refers to young students having sex in exchange for money or gifts. So far nothing new...

Denkicash
02-20-14, 02:08
quick question about japanese before i get started is papa boshu japanese for sugar daddy?

after having searched around and seeing references to happymail, wakuwaku, asobo and other such sites rep001tered around the japan section of the forum it seemed most appropriate to stick this one in here.

i was stumbling around the internet the other day and ran across sumakoi.

i was bored and haven't touched any kind of deai site for many years now so i decided to give it a whirl.

knowing how perilous such sites can be i made a deal with myself. i would bung 3000 yen worth of credit on there and when that money was done i walk away no matter what does or doesn't happen.

anybody who is trying out deai sites i recommend this same self-limiting. 1st time i tried this scene i was clueless and dumb and blew about 100,000 yen over the course of maybe 2 weeks.

anyways, sumakoi seems to be a newish site in the genre.

very crisp, very simple, very limited.

sumakoi only let's you filter by age, region, and type (in the fashion / looks style sense).

oh and a significant portion of the girls on there have video profiles, so they are certainly real.

sumakoi also lets you initiate contact for free. as in you can send an opening mail for free and it doesn't start taking your points until the 2nd time you message a girl.

that's pretty good and seems reassuring.

but in the end it seems to be the same old deai bs, nobody is willing to make the jump to line or normal e-mail, everybody want to communicate via single topic messages almost as if they specifically want you to send as many messages as possible hmm.

i end up wondering if there are 2 kinds of deai site?

- those where the girls just operate for free (which seems to apply to happymail)

- and those where the girls actually earn currency for provoking messages.

for what it's worth i did sumakoi with an overtly gaijin profile, but with 95% of my content in japanese, and i got about 10 raw contacts per day (as in they contacted me 1st) including some girls who wrote in mixed english and japanese.

there is definitely an air of typical bored japanese girl mail ping-pong here, as well as some very probably sakura.

anyways, i burned through my 3000 with no real outcomes.

if i were doing it over i would suggest to myself be a merciless non-replier: only respond to girls who initiated the contact with you, and live close enough to your area that you could actually meet them easily enough.

you do start of with enough credit to do 5 follow-up messages so if some of the girls on there are actually not sakura, and you pick one and send her the 5 most amazing messages in history you could be game on.

Denkicash
02-21-14, 02:25
Quick question about Japanese before I get started is "papa boshu" Japanese for Sugar Daddy?Anyways, having wasted a few days there on Sumakoi I decided to try Happy Mail for the 1st time.

Long and short of it: within an hour of sending my 1st message I was walking towards the love hotel with a happy mail girl.

She was a bit average in the face but other wise nice, petite, tight, and in her early 20's.

She wasn't in a hurry or anything, but this was not a leisure activity for her, and when we were done she didn't want to stick around.

I think 20,000 for 1 shot (as opposed to 1 hour) may have a been a bit pricey. I should probably take out the part of my profile that mentions that I only just joined LOL.

So yeah, to hell with sumakoi!

Happymail Happy mail is the way to go.

PCMAX also seems like it may be on the level.

Onadlos
08-12-14, 12:38
Great information, very valuable thanks to all of you.

Japan obviously had some sectors of its sex business that is only limited to locals, but I guess if you try hard enough you can get some action although I probably is quicker to just go to Roppongi.

But I am really attracted to these girls foreigners usually don't get.

Onadlos
08-12-14, 13:14
OP, please do not come to Japan. This is probably the most ignorant and rude post I have seen.Boohoo,

That didn't sound pretentious at all.

I bet you're quite a big shot in Japan, classy and respectful to the ladies.

Occidentals are so rude and ignorant about Japan, right?

Fortunately you know much better and get to know things we don't and instead of sharing them it's much easier to come here just to criticise ignorant stupid white guys.

Get real we're on a forum about paying for sex.

I am truly sorry if what I said offended you.

But I bang Japanese tourists like crazy where I live based on them having LV bags and slutty skirts. They usually don't seem very offended by my ignorance or manners much, in fact a vast majority of them want to hang out some more. I might even know much more about Japan that you can possibly imagine. Just not about enjo kosai.

Was my post crude? Yes.

Am I sorry? No.

You didn't need to respond like that that was agressive.

This is a forum about paying for sex and sharing information.

The purpose of this thread is to gather information.

If you have something to share or ask, please do.

If not, then your post has no purpose other than create a conflict. Maybe you should create your own forum about chivalrous internet heroes who respect women and give them classy presents in exchange for delightful company.

I bang women and give them cash. I don't disrepect or offend them, I just call a cat a cat.