[AO] Club La Luna - Moers [Archive] - Page 3

Myrrh

11-08-15, 11:32

Thursdays are impossible for me.Holding the event on a day that is in the middle of the week, rather than at the beginning / end of it or at the weekend, makes it more difficult or unattractive for anyone to visit from outside of Germany.

The event only lasts 3 hours. As it finishes at 9 pm you have no chance of getting a late flight back so you would have to spend the night in a hotel. Flying in and out just for this 3 hour event alone would be a daft waste of the money spent on the flight and hotel room so you would want to make a trip out of the visit.

It was always held on a Monday when the club was under former ownership. You could take the Monday off and fly in at the weekend to visit a couple of places and then La Luna on the Monday before flying back the next morning. If the flight back was early enough on the Tuesday then you only needed to take Monday off. So one day off work and the cost of a flight but you could enjoy three days.

Under the new ownership this event has always been held on a Thursday except for one day on a Friday. Friday is a better day than either Thursday or Monday. You could take Friday off and enjoy three days including the weekend if you visited. Depending on flights you may only need to take the Friday afternoon off.

With the event being held on a Thursday however then you would have to take at least Thursday afternoon and Friday off work in order to make a trip out of it. Therefore one and a half days off work instead of one if the event is held on a Monday or half a day if held on a Friday.

As this event is held 5 to 6 times a year you would want to minimise the amount of time you take off work if you wanted to attend regularly.

So ideally the event would be held at the weekend or failing that on a Friday evening.

However this would mean that more guys would show up and the event is already heavily (or should that be horrendously) oversubscribed by guys as it is. So perhaps holding the event midweek is a deliberate crowd limitation tactic.

Saucehollandaise

11-09-15, 11:23

However this would mean that more guys would show up and the event is already heavily (or should that be horrendously) oversubscribed by guys as it is. So perhaps holding the event midweek is a deliberate crowd limitation tactic.That would be a good enough reason for this crowded set up. I think it would be less of a problem if it wasn't done in that tiny basement like area but in the whole of the rear room. I have been to GB's in Belgium where the male / female ratio was about just as bad or even worse but with some politeness, a bit of patience, maybe one hour more and especially more space (why not use the whole backroom and temporary put then non GB girls in the front room) it would be fine. I think.

Toddy

11-10-15, 08:27

Saucehollandaise

11-10-15, 14:31

Crowd limitation tactic? Any number on the guys present there then as I may be going? But if there is just to many for the short time its noth worth the time as I have to travel more then the tme I can spend there.

Already thanks in advance.I know that problem of traveling more time than you spend in a club, it keeps me from more visits than I actually have. Cost effective. Yes. But fun?

Anyway, the LL GB. Even if I could go, I am inclined to give it a pass, unless I have other things to do in the area. Reason is NOT the ratio of girls vs men even though many say there are too many men for the small number of girls. Last GB there were about 50 men for 4 girls. Now, that might not be a problem if there was a bit more time and the male partcipants were a bit more patient. And, maybe most important, if there was more space available. See my post form yesterday. Just 3 hours with 4 girls, 50 or so hungry wolves in just about the smallest place available is, for me, not worth travelling more time than I have to spend there.

1 girl for 10-15 man can be done, IF there is more time, IF there is more space, If (and that is the only thing LL cannot take care of) the men behave a bit more relaxed. I'd be willing to take a risk with the last thing if there was more time and more space.

OneSeventy

11-10-15, 21:14

First of all, it costs round about as much as one hour. And how much action do you really get for that in this 3 hour event?

I mean, If there are going to be around 50 guys for 4 girls, this means there's a minimum of 12 guys per girl, with 2 girls probably being hotter than the other 2. This leaves Kathi and Vanessa with approximated 15 or more guys. Additional, every girl can only handle 3, maximum 4 blokes at a time, so you have to divide the 3 hours by a minimum of 4. Leaving you with only 45 minutes of actual action, or less. So yeah, too many guys for this short time imo.

And on top of that, I've read some really nasty stuff about these events. Like especially the oldest guys behaving absolutely gross and reckless. For example: Particularly wanting to suck out the pussy, right after someone else sneezed right into it.

Sorry, but this is where I draw the line.

Myrrh

11-10-15, 22:04

And a new GB announced with Kathi, Roberta, Vanessa and Luiza.I think it was Wanking who once said something about this event along the lines of:

Anyone already half dead from full-blown AIDS could simply walk in off the street at one of these gangbangs and dribble their infected sperm into the pussies of one or more of these girls, ready for the next guy to dip his bare cock into the mix, and no one would ever know.

Probably explains why Wanking, although keen on bareback, has never ever been to this event.

Although to be fair he did cite other reasons like the ridiculous pricing of 100 euros for only 3 hours of action. It would actually be less than three hours as the girls would of course take breaks. For that sort of money anywhere else you could enjoy a 7 hour gangbang with 6 or more girls or have 2 or 3 girls all to yourself with a leisurely break in between at a flat rate place or a red carpet club.

When you also take into account the overcrowding then it does not seem like an attractive proposal at all. There are reports that it is standing room only, in a space not much bigger than some people's bedroom, with guys dicks literally being pressed up against the ass of the guy in front.

Optimist

11-11-15, 03:48

it is standing room only, in a space not much bigger than some people's bedroom, with guys dicks literally being pressed up against the ass of the guy in front.Exactly right.

Optimist

11-11-15, 03:50

Myrrh, you mention infections. I am thinking that the girls must be on permanent antibiotics since they never take little holidays, apart from Miruna. Not sure if this would be reassuring or not.

Saucehollandaise

11-11-15, 10:38

Probably explains why Wanking, although keen on bareback, has never ever been to this event.When I was on a GB there I noticed a stack of condoms hidden between the matresses and the wall. But for the reasons mentioned before, I slipped into a room and grabbed a handfull of condoms for personal use. Although when I heard one guy asking for condoms, I gave him one as well.

Dreams

11-11-15, 11:10

Myrrh, you mention infections. I am thinking that the girls must be on permanent antibiotics since they never take little holidays, apart from Miruna. Not sure if this would be reassuring or not.Definitively not if AIDS is your concern. No better for Herpes. And most probably counterproductive for other bacterial STds, since this is the best way to isolate and develop resistant gonorrheas etc.

Myrrh

11-11-15, 21:30

Myrrh, you mention infections. I am thinking that the girls must be on permanent antibiotics since they never take little holidays, apart from Miruna. Not sure if this would be reassuring or not.I would expect that the girls would be perpetually on 'the pill' in order to avoid getting pregnant from the cocktail of stranger sperm they have sloshing around inside them on a daily basis. So it would not surprise me either if they had serial prescriptions for antibiotics (or more likely generics on the cheap from the black market).

Having to take x number of weeks off work waiting for an infection to clear up (even longer off work if they get pregnant) would be an expensive mistake. Especially if you are earning on average between 300 to 600 euros or more per day. With 30 minutes of AO costing 60 euros and the club being open 13 to 16 hours per day those sort of figures are easily and regularly achievable on a daily basis with just 5 to 10 customers a day. Take 10 days off and lose 3000 to 6000 euros because of an infection? No chance, unless of course a customer complains and the club forces you to. So it may be well worth their while taking antibiotics proactively to guard against such a disastrous scenario.

Saucehollandaise

11-12-15, 09:38

I would expect that the girls would be perpetually on 'the pill' in order to avoid getting pregnant from the cocktail of stranger sperm they have sloshing around inside them on a daily basis. Either that or they are in fact sex bots. Like I said before, Kathi is now listed with the same age as she had when she started in Angelique.

Dreams

11-12-15, 11:43

I would expect that the girls would be perpetually on 'the pill' in order to avoid getting pregnant from the cocktail of stranger sperm they have sloshing around inside them on a daily basis. So it would not surprise me either if they had serial prescriptions for antibiotics (or more likely generics on the cheap from the black market).

Having to take x number of weeks off work waiting for an infection to clear up (even longer off work if they get pregnant) would be an expensive mistake. Especially if you are earning on average between 300 to 600 euros or more per day. With 30 minutes of AO costing 60 euros and the club being open 13 to 16 hours per day those sort of figures are easily and regularly achievable on a daily basis with just 5 to 10 customers a day. Take 10 days off and lose 3000 to 6000 euros because of an infection? No chance, unless of course a customer complains and the club forces you to. So it may be well worth their while taking antibiotics proactively to guard against such a disastrous scenario.Very rational thinking, but. There is no scientific evidence that taking permanent preventive ABs stops infections in the long run. Quite the contrary, it progressively isolates resistant strains, which in turn become more difficult to treat. Which does not mean that the girls don't do it for the same reasons you mention. In which case, we, mongers, should be worried to catch highly resistant bugs.

OneSeventy

11-12-15, 14:16

So it would not surprise me either if they had serial prescriptions for antibiotics (or more likely generics on the cheap from the black market).Sounds like BS to me. I'm with Dreams there.

Myrrh

11-12-15, 22:25

Sounds like BS to me. I'm with Dreams there.Did you actually read our posts before responding? Dreams was actually agreeing with me, that it is a possibility nothing more that the girls could be using antibiotics, and I in turn was acknowledging this as a possible valid point when it was first raised by Optimist.

Very rational thinking, but. There is no scientific evidence that taking permanent preventive ABs stops infections in the long run. Quite the contrary, it progressively isolates resistant strains, which in turn become more difficult to treat. Which does not mean that the girls don't do it for the same reasons you mention. If you really want something that definitely sounds like BS then let me refer you to this.

So today I went to Moers to see Kathi.
(I have to say, I'm 31 - and quite good looking I would think.).

So, her pussy wasn't really quite freshly shavee to shave real quick and then come back, which she then (under some little grousing in Romanian) did.

I really have an average dick I think (but probably a little thicker then the usual) - but she really almost couldn't cram it down her throat. But spit was drooling, she was gagging and choking. So far, so good. I was really rock hard at that point, which probably made it harder for her, although she shape should have fit her throat perfectly. It maybe went down almost completely 1-2 times for a brief moment (she couldn't hold it longer tho), so I then tried opening her throat myself a little, which resulted in more sweet Romanian grumbling.

So, I asked her for anal, she really kinda didn't want to do it at first (gave me to understand that she don't likes it), but after some ranting she finally agreed.

OK, so she got some creme, prepared her ass and my dick and then simply sat on it (no condom, no nothing). She pushed it inside. But super, super slow. I think it took her more than 10 minutes (not kidding!) to push my dick inside. But once it went inside, she started riding me really carefully (maybe like 10 minutes) - but you could really see in her face, that she didn't like this a lot. And it really seemed to hurt. But seeing my dick going in her bare ass like that. It was a hell of a turn on I have to admit! - Again, she was riding me rock hard. Accompanied bye granting and grousing of course. But because of the pain I then proposed to spoon a little instead, with the dick in her ass, so we tried this for a while. At least, I could fuck her ass really gently like that. But needless to say: more Romanian grumbling. I told her to relax. But again, you could see. That she wasn't particularly enjoying this and I almost felt bad for doing this to her.

All in all I definitely have to state: wasn't really worth the money (100 bucks)! Partly, because she really doesn't like it, partly because her pussy honestly is the tighter, nicer hole I think (I mean, how often can you say that, - right? My advice: save the money, really!So a girl who is more in demand than all the other girls at La Luna put together, and has guys constantly queuing for her services throughout the day, is persuaded to do the following even though she clearly does not want to do it:

- Spend many minutes reluctantly shaving her pussy for one 'special' customer, who she has never met before, when she could be spending that time earning money with 4 or 5 other waiting customers who are probably her regulars and would never dream of asking her to shave her pussy.

- Gag on a customer's dick even taking it completely down her esophagus and then allowing the customer to force open her mouth even more so that he could push it down further still.

- Perform bareback anal continuously for over half an hour even though she didn't want to and it was hurting her when other customers, who have spent thousands of euros on her and hundreds of hours with her, have been refused this service despite them having asked several times. Then it was claimed that her ass hole was actually tighter than her pussy, believable or what?

- Perform ass to mouth even though she clearly did not want to do this when I have never heard of any other girl doing this for money, not even porn stars, despite reading thousands of posts on here.

- Then she not only licks the customer's ass but actually stuffs her whole tongue down the asshole (I am referring to the bodily part and not the guy)!

- Finally she takes the whole cum load into her mouth.

What was missing was the bit where she snorted the cum from her throat back out through her nose in the form of cum bubbles which she then caught on the end of her tongue before gargling open-mouthed prior to swallowing the whole lot so that you could see it all disappearing down her throat. Followed of course by the obligatory search tongue first for any missing cum from hands, breasts and the end of the dick.

Then she indulges in a post-coital shower with the customer who had forced her to do things that she definitely did not want to do, when I know from previous visits that the girls always use a shower separate from the one that the guys are using.

I guess it helps to be young, good looking and thicker than your average.

Nothing remotely similar has ever been reported before or since. I am sure that most readers reading it at the time thought that this was the sort of steaming pile of that you normally find curled up in a farmer's cow field but were too polite to say so.

I am just wondering whether it is Dreams who has the right username?

Member #4359

11-12-15, 22:44

Sounds like BS to me. I'm with Dreams there.People with health problems such as cancer, HIV infection, and hemophilia, are routinely told to take antibiotics before undergoing certain dental procedures.

Also, people with a condition that puts them at greater risk of developing bacterial infection are asked to tell their doctors so that prophylactic antibiotics can be suscribed. This could be applied to sex work, obviously.

The reason we don't want to do this is that, as others have already alluded, it results in bacterial mutations that are resistant to antibiotics. This is a problem with the use of antibiotics period, not just preventatively.

For the short term, though, it is effective, and even recommended for certain situations.

Neurosynth

11-13-15, 06:47

Dreams

11-13-15, 12:01

. Nobody here so far is a doctor.

.How do you know? You may be wrong here.

Dreams

11-13-15, 12:03

People with health problems such as cancer, HIV infection, and hemophilia, are routinely told to take antibiotics before undergoing certain dental procedures.

Also, people with a condition that puts them at greater risk of developing bacterial infection are asked to tell their doctors so that prophylactic antibiotics can be suscribed. This could be applied to sex work, obviously.

The reason we don't want to do this is that, as others have already alluded, it results in bacterial mutations that are resistant to antibiotics. This is a problem with the use of antibiotics period, not just preventatively.

For the short term, though, it is effective, and even recommended for certain situations.No disagreement there. Prophylactic AB treatment for SHORT time and for specific reasons is common and good practice. What is not is what was suggested here, I. E permanent "preventative" treatment of those girls.

Quite simple to understand, I think.

Saucehollandaise

11-13-15, 12:45

Please wake me when something useful is being said.The coffee in LL is among the best in Mongerworld.

Optimist

11-13-15, 16:14

Given the ongoing discussion on health here, remember that condoms are there in every room. This thread says it is an AO club, but it is not exclusively so, and I have no problems using the condoms.

I went recently with Kathi, Miruna, and Flori, all of whom in their own way give superb service. One needs to be on top form to enjoy them properly as they really put the effort in.

I cannot get my head round the fact that this is so much a f...k and go club, and that there is really no culture of interacting with the clients as other than sex machines which provide money, and maybe some pleasure. I think they are really missing an opportunity, as in itself the sex service level is unsurpassable. One girl indicated clearly to me that all clients were pretty much indistinguishable to her, out of sight out of mind.

The language skills in the club are minimal, a reflection of the fact that they see their job as sex, without any of the finesses.This is one place where a girl will never play mindgames or brain fucking.

Member #4359

11-16-15, 17:44

Optimist

11-16-15, 20:06

OneSeventy, please don't be discouraged from future reports. I read very carefully what you wrote and it was all consistent with Kathi. She would certainly take time, for which you were paying, to shave, and if pressured would certainly, if paid enough, reluctantly try anal which she does not like. She would be very happy if you managed to come three times, and the longer the session goes on the dirtier she gets. Your report captured certain elements of her character very well.

Neurosynth

11-16-15, 22:31

Actually I am a doctor. But I don't know what the girls are using, if anything.Good to know! Your opinion on generic medical issues, rather than specifics about what the girls are using, is more useful knowing that.

Bukudala

11-25-15, 23:38

After years of stalking this thread, I finally made the "pilgrimage" to this club to see the lovely Roberta.

Decided on using Dusseldorf as ground zero (report on Dusseldorf thread).

Dusseldorf to Duisburg to Moers. 1 hour plus. 5. 50, local. Taxi, about 6. 80 and no more than five minutes.

The club itself is basic and as described on this thread. Walked in around 1:30 pm, on a Wednesday, and they appeared to be opening and setting up Christmas decorations. Spotted the usual suspects on my way to the shower, including Roberta.

Kathi handed me my Coke "light," (IMHO, cute GND type and sweet), sat on the white couch in the room closest to the play rooms, and surveyed the scene. One more monger as well as Vanessa and Flori on their respective couches. Both looked yummy, with Flori eager for eye contact, but I'd already settled on Roberta.

What can I say that hasn't already been offered on this thread? Roberta's certainly not a gazelle, but she's certainly what I wanted. She has sexy written all over her, and without the attitude. She was fitting her outfit by the mirror, and I watched the fashion show. Motioned her over, and we made out like teenagers on the couch.....mutual touching, leading to a public bbbj, and leading to the zimmer. Roberta's oral technique's extraordinary...proper use of tongue, perfect suction. No teeth. Must have been a fan, at an early age, of lollipops and Popsicles as a kid! I had to think of everything (IRS audit, Hillary see, etc..you get the point) to make me NOT lose it; but after she mounted me, it was all over in less than 5 minutes...okay, 2 minutes really, BUT I was extremely satisfied. Ah, found the fountain of youth.

Thanks to everyone on this thread. Your inputs are spot on.

FYI, took me 21 minutes, at a leisurely pace, to walk back to the train station. Now, as a 50+ year old. If only I had lasted that long with sexy Roberta. Sigh.

Ah'll beee baak!

Saucehollandaise

11-26-15, 18:39

but after she mounted me, it was all over in less than 5 minutes...okay, 2 minutes really
From one 50+ to another, your honesty is much appreciated.

Optimist

11-28-15, 10:38

From German reports. This week's gangbang with four girls was attended by 50 customers. All four girls worked really well, and the reports are very positive, with no reports of pushing and shoving.

I can't see how so many men can fit in the small space (I assume it is the normal space).

By the way, there are bright new lockers and more of them.

Optimist, who is temporarily retired to the rear on account of non hobby related affliction 😠.

Myrrh

11-28-15, 12:40

So people are speculating about the efficacy of speculated medication the various girls may or may not be using. Nobody here so far is a doctor. Nobody here so far knows what the girls do and don't take.

Please wake me when something useful is being said.Guys,

Don't be discouraged from debating what we consider to be relevant on here. Several members have commented on this particular topic so they clearly found it relevant.

It is hardly likely that either before or after a session that a customer would interrogate the girls on their medical history or hygiene practices. Or ask them how they manage to stay free from any STI when the only preventative measures that we know that they take is to visit the showers for a wash after each guy has cum in them.

The girls would find it rude for a start and with their limited English it would be difficult to get the relevant information out of them.

I know that many guys take preventative measures to try and reduce if not prevent the incidence of STI from unprotected sex. That is different colored pills, creams and other practices.

It's the choice between taking a pill for a couple of days instead having to take half a day or more off work to visit a sex clinic to get treatment for a painful infection.

I am conscious of antibiotic resistance so my preference is to keep tabs of Azithromycin to hand and only take them if there are clear symptoms of infection like pain on passing water, irritation in the urethra, etc. If you go to a clinic and they diagnose Chlamydia, Gonorrhea (normal strain) or non-specific urethritis then that is what they will normally prescribe anyway. They will usually give you a single dose of it and watch whilst you take it so as to prevent guys from taking them home and stockpiling them and also to ensure that you do take it. They prefer this nowadays to other treatments like doxycycline, which you need to take over 7 days, and if guys don't complete the treatment then there is a risk of the infection becoming resistant to the antibiotic.

But if the girls are using antibiotics continually then you are exposing yourself to significant risk of catching drug resistant infections if you bareback no matter how careful you are about using antibiotics.

Anyway why should we prevented from speculating in the absence of hard facts or testimonies. Some guys many years ago speculated whether it might be possible to split electrons out from the atom and others laughed at them and told them don't be so ridiculous.

If it was up to the likes of some people on here we would still be writing with chalk on slates and using the abacus instead of laptops and tablet computers.

Maybe best not to wake them from their coma?

Dreams

11-28-15, 19:39

Guys,

Don't be discouraged from debating what we consider to be relevant on here. Several members have commented on this particular topic so they clearly found it relevant...Please speculate as much as you wish. And on top, I would add that most of your points are medically valid.

What I would prefer is that all those debates are centralized in specific thread rather than on a specific club, since all this applies to most other clubs.

BiqJMonger

12-03-15, 01:02

I often think about posting here, but rarely pull the trigger. But I've have enough good to great experiences at La Luna to make me want to post some thoughts here. Probably nothing too new, but oh well.

- Kathi is just outstanding. There's a lot of talk about lines of people waiting for her. I simply sit down on her couch when I arrive if she's not there and when she's free, she joins me. Absolute GFE with immediate DFK and cooing on the couch while we each smoke and relax. Then eventually she'll play with my cock which will usually eventually lead to her motioning to the rooms and me obliging her request. Inside it's blissful GFE with a girl who can't speak a lick of English. Her Romanian coos and grumbles are so damn adorable when she knows I can't understand a lick of it. Tender is the word I'd use to describe our sessions. Eager and slow BBBJ with some drooling and self inflicted choking (maybe I help a little in the most tender way you'd imagine). Sometimes I'll dirty till she's convulsing in what I'm fairly certain is a true orgasm. Every session she'll eventually ride me slow and steady until I unload inside her. Sometimes I don't let her off until I've done it once or twice more. And she always happily obliges (periodically rubbing her legs or knees). Truly one of the best GFE experiences without sharing more than 10 mutually understood words.

- This last visit I let the session go on for about an hour and 5 minutes. 5 minute run over has never been an issue in the past. Perhaps they've got a tally of all the minutes I've run over before and added them to this one session. Door lady adamantly insisted that I was in the room for 1:20 when I could see from my watch and the wall clock (I usually check both) that I was having this argument 1:20 after I walked in the room. And I had time to clean up and leisurely stroll back and forth from the lockers a couple of times. Not one to ruin a good experience, I have up my principals and asked Kathi how she remembered it and she (of course) sided with the door lady. With no more complaints I paid the extra and said if we ever had this problem again, it would be the last time I came to the club. I stuck around at the bar for a smoke and a coffee and held Kathi's hand until the awkwardness (for them) passed. Finally, the door lady used Google translate to ask me (through Kathi who held up the phone for me!) if I was mad at her. I laughed, said in sure she was just trying to do her job and said no. When I left at the end of the night, as I sometimes do, I left her a small tip. Has anyone else ever had a time accounting problem here?

- Vanessa is a good time, but certainly a YMMV kind of experience. I wouldn't be surprised if most wouldn't connect with her. We share laughs from a distance (we have an inside joke) while I pursue Kathi or relax with a smoke and catch up on texts and emails between sessions. Eventually she usually breaks me down and we have a session on one of the couches or in one of the rooms. Her tits are amazing. And this from someone who appreciates a nice A / be cup over anything bigger usually. Not GFE in the literal sense like it is with Kathi, but still a good time. And I kind of like how she's a little uncomfortable but still willing to do a public session.

- All his chatter about STIs made it hard to find useful info about this club in particular. I agree it should have its own forum. Took me until now to find mention of Roberta. Checked the website and now I'm wishing I'd read the recommendations more thoroughly. She isn't one ID usually session with, but sounds like she'd be worth the try!

Sorry for the long, rambling post. Just figured it was finally time for me to post a general report on what I think is one of the best clubs in the world (and that's 85% due to Kathi).

Optimist

12-03-15, 10:29

Maxime

12-03-15, 14:57

BigJMonger. Thanks for report. Time disputes with Lisa, the thekefrau, are quite common. I don't think she intends to cheat but is a overly worried that visitors will try to cheat her. I try to deal with it by going straight from the room to pay Lisa, in order to ensure no misunderstanding.The bad customer service of Lisa is the main reason for me NOT to visit this club anymore. Pity, visited the club many times, already in Vierssen, but also in Moers, but ok, only few girls really worth the trip (Kathi, Miruna) and many other clubs (most RTCs) with similar service and better prices.

Happy Fkk

12-04-15, 02:05

Has anyone else ever had a time accounting problem here?Pay more time than I think used with a girl. And later tip her! No.

Vito Corleone

12-06-15, 09:53

The bad customer service of Lisa is the main reason for me NOT to visit this club anymore. Pity, visited the club many times, already in Vierssen, but also in Moers, but ok, only few girls really worth the trip (Kathi, Miruna) and many other clubs (most RTCs) with similar service and better prices.I also agree. She tried to cheat on room times twice. First time I gave her a chance & after the 2nd time haven't been back. I stood my ground both times as I refuse to be cheated by anyone in any club. I do enjoy some girls there but I'm not whipped & there are better & cheaper options near by. Unless she recruits some new fresh meat, not recycled girls from past, no reason to pay 2-3 times more compared to RTC clubs.

I've had issues with her since her all inclusive parties at Viersen. Generally a nice person, but really strange attitude towards customer service. For a club in desperate need of clients she needs to rethink her customer services. Anyway, typical gypsy.

Vito Corleone

12-06-15, 09:58

- This last visit I let the session go on for about an hour and 5 minutes. 5 minute run over has never been an issue in the past. Perhaps they've got a tally of all the minutes I've run over before and added them to this one session. Door lady adamantly insisted that I was in the room for 1:20 when I could see from my watch and the wall clock (I usually check both) that I was having this argument 1:20 after I walked in the room. And I had time to clean up and leisurely stroll back and forth from the lockers a couple of times. Not one to ruin a good experience, I have up my principals and asked Kathi how she remembered it and she (of course) sided with the door lady. With no more complaints I paid the extra and said if we ever had this problem again, it would be the last time I came to the club. I stuck around at the bar for a smoke and a coffee and held Kathi's hand until the awkwardness (for them) passed. Finally, the door lady used Google translate to ask me (through Kathi who held up the phone for me!) if I was mad at her. I laughed, said in sure she was just trying to do her job and said no. When I left at the end of the night, as I sometimes do, I left her a small tip. Has anyone else ever had a time accounting problem.Great TR.

Come on dude, she over charges you on room time & on top of that you leave a tip? Pathetic!

Sportsman

12-06-15, 15:34

For a club in desperate need of clients she needs to rethink her customer services.I am sure if they lower their rates to be more in line with RTCs will increase their business traffic significantly. May be someone speaks German can make the suggestion to them.

Myrrh

12-06-15, 16:02

I do enjoy some girls there but I'm not whipped & there are better & cheaper options near by. Unless she recruits some new fresh meat, not recycled girls from past, no reason to pay 2-3 times more compared to RTC clubs.

For a club in desperate need of clients she needs to rethink her customer services. The choice is small. Only 10 girls. Of those only Vanessa and Kathi I find genuinely attractive based on their looks alone.

In terms of performance Kathi gives great GFE and Miruna great PSE. Roberta gives good performance whilst Jasmine and Flori also try hard. Vanessa is of suspect temperament.

The other girls range from ordinary to unattractive and there have not been any reports of particularly good performance from them.

Is this a club that can really justify charging a premium price of 60 euros for AO compared to RTC clubs that are charging only 30 euros and have a larger number of girls to choose from?

But according to Optimist from a recent visit last month business is actually quite good and the club is not "in desperate need of clients".

It seems that the popularity of LL has soared over recent months to the point that at some times there are no girls available. So if you are new to the club remember it is best to go in normal work hours, or late at night. I'm not sure why the popularity, it may be something to do with my enthusiastic reports which revived this thread, and an enthusiastic poster on German sites, but these reports are just snapshots not eternal truths.

Never follow the crowd, as by the time you arrive everything has been taken or used up.Today they are having a Nikolaus party and the three girls in the promo flyer I haven't seen before. They look great!

Wonder what this party is all about. Is it flat rate or do the girls dress up?

BiqJMonger

12-06-15, 22:18

Great TR.

Come on dude, she over charges you on room time & on top of that you leave a tip? Pathetic!I guess like Optimist, I tend to assume the best. Now we've established a baseline. If it happens again, I will not pay the extra and I will not come again.

Vito Corleone

12-07-15, 10:46

New 20€ charge for CIP.

Optimist

12-07-15, 12:09

Myrrh. I know I wrote about how busy it was, but I am not regular enough to know if it was just that I happened to visit on a few busy days. I suspect that what I saw was probably untypical. Unfortunately I'm having to take a break from visits as temporarily I can't fly.

I bet those girls on the party flyer weren't working at the party.

Optimist

12-07-15, 15:22

New 20 charge for CIP.Wind-up, Vito?

If it were true then my long sessions wouldn't be worth Kathi's time. She already counts the number of times I finish and finds it inadequate 😀

Free Dude

12-07-15, 17:36

Wind-up, Vito?

If it were true then my long sessions wouldn't be worth Kathi's time. She already counts the number of times I finish and finds it inadequate There is exactly one guy on freiercafe that has reported the 20 extra, which has since been denied by Lisa herself. So possibly he got taken for a ride, but it isn't the official rate. Guys that have visited the club since then have found prcies to be the same as always.

Myrrh

12-07-15, 22:45

New 20 charge for CIP.The girls are supposed to be 'self-employed'. Does anyone know if the girls keep all of the money that they get from the guys whilst the club keeps all of the door money?

I think unlikely as the guy normally goes back to reception to pay the girl with thekefrau overseeing. So Lisa knows how much the girls are making.

If the club takes a slice of the girl's earnings then I wouldn't be surprised if Lisa tried to introduce premium charges if she thought she could get away with it.

I am sure though that it won't get to the over complicated rate card that used to be in place under the old management with additions for kissing, BBBJ, BBFS, CIP, anal and maybe even CIA.

The top rate with everything thrown in was well over 100 euros for just 30 minutes and this was at the time when flat rate places like Love Factory, Fun Girls and Fun Park were charging 80 euros to do anything you liked, all day with as many girls as you wanted.

Vito Corleone

12-10-15, 01:33

There is exactly one guy on freiercafe that has reported the 20 extra, which has since been denied by Lisa herself. So possibly he got taken for a ride, but it isn't the official rate. Guys that have visited the club since then have found prcies to be the same as always.Not sure who the guy from the other forum is but this was info from a local German I've known for years. He mentioned it at one of the RTC clubs. He's been visiting the RTC clubs at least once a week for many years. I just thought it would be useful info but whatever.

Gggfan

01-01-16, 20:56

Does anyone know when the next gangbang is scheduled? Wrote them a couple of times to inquire (through their website) in German and in English, but never got any answer.

Vito Corleone

01-02-16, 02:00

Does anyone know when the next gangbang is scheduled? Wrote them a couple of times to inquire (through their website) in German and in English, but never got any answer.You just have to check their website for announcements. You can always call the club & ask.

SwingerLover

01-02-16, 12:30

It seems to me as if they do the gangbangs no more often than every other month. So I wouldn't expect anything before the end of January. http://www.club-laluna.com/index.php/blog.html.

Saucehollandaise

01-15-16, 13:21

It seems to me as if they do the gangbangs no more often than every other month. So I wouldn't expect anything before the end of January. http://www.club-laluna.com/index.php/blog.html.First GB's of last year were announced 1 months before, the last two (IIRC) 2 weeks in advance.

Biggusdickus

01-18-16, 13:57

Miruna has vanished from the homepage. Anyone knows about her whereabouts?

Saucehollandaise

01-18-16, 18:24

First GB's of last year were announced 1 months before, the last two (IIRC) 2 weeks in advance.Maybe due the the huge crowd they won't announce too far in advance anymore. Or GB's are finished completely.

Optimist

01-19-16, 20:28

I think Miruna is finished at the club. A great shame.

Gangbangs. I wasn't expecting one in January. February is the earliest I would expect.

Vito Corleone

01-19-16, 20:53

I think Miruna is finished at the club. A great shame. She left sometime last year working as an escort in Belgium. Didn't work out so she returned. I'm sure she'll be back. Maybe not but in Germany.

Myrrh

01-20-16, 00:26

I think Miruna is finished at the club. A great shame.

Gangbangs. I wasn't expecting one in January. February is the earliest I would expect.Well it looked like she went away before and came back. So no reason why she won't do so again. This post from a year or so ago.

Kathi still very good, but Miruna is even better. Too bad she supposedly left 10 days ago, even if she is still on the website. Lucky enough I stopped by the last day before she (supposedly) left.It seems that they can only take so much repetitive cleaning out of gunk from their pussies, day after day, left by ugly, fat, old, men before they simply have to get away. At least for their own sanity if not their health.

Only Kathi seems to be made of truly indestructible stuff.

It's no secret that the other girls really hate the gangbangs but she insists at being at every single one, without fail. How can anyone put up with this sort of treatment for so long and yet remain so seemingly unaffected?

Sportsman

01-20-16, 03:23

Why no one mentioned Kassandra is vanished from their website also? I know why, no one cares. Haha.

Vito Corleone

01-20-16, 08:00

Why no one mentioned Kassandra is vanished from their website also? I know why, no one cares. Haha.She was nothing special looks wise but she had a few regulars. She must be doing something right.

Optimist

01-20-16, 09:15

VC and Myrrh. You are right Miruna was out of the club over the winter and spring last year and came back.

Free Dude

01-20-16, 09:16

The last time Miruna left she was actually escorting in Belgium.

Kathi has "quit" before as well, when it was still club Angelique. Apparently she changed her mind after a few weeks. This was still in the Alice, Alina, Ruby days.

Don't hold back Sportsman, what's up with Kassandra?

Saucehollandaise

01-20-16, 10:17

Only Kathi seems to be made of truly indestructible stuff.TE]

It's no secret that the other girls really hate the gangbangs but she insists at being at every single one, without fail. How can anyone put up with this sort of treatment for so long and yet remain so seemingly unaffected?I was at LL yesterday, I asked about GB. "Cheffine nicht the, veilliecht nachste monat".

Went with kathi. Wow, either I am getting bigger or she is getting smaller each time. Also noticed she is getting more cuddly liking girl than ever before. Gave her a massage, she gave me one, not that I would say very good bet certainly inspired and I dare say, if she decides to follow a few lessons she could be utterly selfsupporting in massage if she ever decides to quit sex.

When I came back from an hour session next target, Flori was occupied for what seemed to be a loong session with someone else, Kathi also quickly taken.

FKK was BTW Towels high up day. Bummer.

Sportsman

01-21-16, 05:31

Don't hold back Sportsman, what's up with Kassandra?Not holding anything back. Unlike Miruna, noticed Kassandra is off their web page too but no one mentioned it.

Optimist

01-31-16, 14:06

Ambience seems a bit weird. The girls seem to spend time in dressing gowns and socks, gazing into their mobile phones. I'm all for the girls being at ease but this was really off putting. A hint of glamour and eagerness for customers goes a long way.

Myrrh

01-31-16, 15:08

Ambience seems a bit weird. The girls seem to spend time in dressing gowns and socks, gazing into their mobile phones.Hasn't that always been the way? When Eveline used to be there she seemed to spend all the time in a dressing gown with her hair in curlers and a headscarf on, even when she was sitting with a guy. The first time I saw her I thought, what? Was this the girl who looked so glamorous in the website photos.

Compare this to the girls in the RTCs who try and make eye contact and always look available. Whereas the girls here have always had that little chip on their shoulders. If a guy does not initially look interested then they just shrug their shoulders, turn their noses up and bury their faces in a phone. Maybe it would be different if they couldn't charge twice as much as other girls do elsewhere for providing a similar service.

YummyPL

02-08-16, 03:58

Compare this to the girls in the RTCs who try and make eye contact and always look available.I know this is the LaLuna thread but help me out please. I read about these RTCs but there doesn't seem to be a thread and very little information. What is an RTC, and how is it different? Is it one of those place where you get to stay 15 minutes with a girl and then they want you out of there?

Christian G

02-08-16, 13:40

I read about these RTCs but there doesn't seem to be a thread and very little information. No thread? Are you sure?

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3419-FKK-Arabella-Villa-Venus-Sauna-Grimberg-NRW-AO-Clubs

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3374-FKK-Dietzenbach

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2608-FKK-Club-Freudenbergstr-39

Is it one of those place where you get to stay 15 minutes with a girl and then they want you out of there?No!

BiqJMonger

02-09-16, 04:51

My last visit was a bit of a disappointment again. This time, I waited for Kathi, even though Vanessa who I always have a good time with (YMMV) was looking sexier than ever! Kathi came out and was sweet as ever on the couch. Started with a tame BJ on the couch and we went to the room. In the room she started acting strange. She didn't start in on me like she normally would and she recoiled at most of my advances. Didn't get very far DATY and when she finally started a BJ it took some time to warm up. She spent some time riding me and I finally came. She kept indicating that he jaw was sore at the end of the session even though I asked her many times if everything was OK. She didn't want to let me go, but I didn't want to be charged for an hour of this bullshit was hoping to squeeze in some time with Vanessa. I finally broke free and made sure to show my face at the desk before showering. Paid up and even though I was 5 minutes over at least (trying to politely leave), we were good with 60€. Phew!

Didn't have time with Vanessa as she was already in her pajamas when I got back out. Lesson learned. She was looking really, really sexy. And I was hoping for some public action which she's OK with. Next time I'll get it right.

CeeJay1

02-10-16, 12:25

How is Vanessa? Is she as good as Kathi or Miruna? Does she look as good as her picture on the website?

Optimist

02-10-16, 18:42

No but still good fun, except she seems to spend most of the day in her pajamas.

Yes, but only when she is not in woolly clothes and slippers.

YummyPL

02-11-16, 02:33

No thread? Are you sure?Silly me. I don't know why I was looking for information about AO clubs in the AO section...

Thanks Christian G. I guess I should have thought to look in the FKK section, but I just didn't.

Maxime

02-14-16, 08:41

Silly me. I don't know why I was looking for information about AO clubs in the AO section...

Thanks Christian G. I guess I should have thought to look in the FKK section, but I just didn't.That's because the RTCs are officially (no AO clubs (anymore), but it is public secret that they still are (but Dietzenbach seems to be on its way to be less AO every week).

Myrrh

02-14-16, 12:28

I read about these RTCs but there doesn't seem to be a thread and very little information. What is an RTC, and how is it different? As they say often in the UK houses of parliaments "I refer the honourable gentleman to the answer I gave some moments ago".

Just two examples of this same question being asked in just the last few months alone.

RTC mean?

Thanks

RTC? Maybe a silly question.No, it is not a silly question and you're right that there isn't a thread called RTC.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2600-Red-Carpet-Clubs

Or, a thread called abbreviations thoughtfully put together by admin.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1897-Terms-and-Abbreviations-List

I would be tempted to reply RTFF if someone asked what RTC meant but then they would be entitled to ask what do I mean by RTFF.

YummyPL

02-15-16, 19:08

Just two examples of this same question being asked in just the last few months alone.Well Myrrh, as I noted a few posts ago, I wasn't looking in the FKK section. And horror that if I did I would be looking for RTC instead of Red Carpet Club. And, wow, I'm sorry that I didn't look in a thread that hasn't had a post in five fucking years.

The discussion was about AO and I expected the answer to be somewhere in the AO section. Horror upon horror that I didn't look at every single forum in Germany to find my answer. And again, horror upon horror that I asked the question in the forum where it is often mentioned.

You may note, I am not a fucking newbie. I have contributed a lot to this board. I think it was a reasonable question. I'm sorry I don't meet your standards.

CeeJay1

02-16-16, 01:58

Stopped by La Luna's and decided to spend sometime with Vanessa. She does look as good as her picture. Also, Kathi was roaming around the club naked when I got there. She had just finished with a customer. She really has some great tits though. Well back to Vanessa. I sat next to her on the couch and tried to talked to her, but she doesn't speak much German or English. She does speak quite a bit of Spanish though. I guess its similiar to Romanian. We ended up doing a half hour session. It was a good session, but not as good as Kathi and Miruna to my recollection.

Myrrh

02-21-16, 11:34

Like I said before, Kathi is now listed with the same age as she had when she started in Angelique.And Vanessa is quoted as having two ages on the same page of the website, 19 and 21.

http://www.club-laluna.com/sedcard-vanessa-12046.html

These girls are definitely still fairly young but, to allow for lack of updates on the website and Club Angelique starting ages being carried over to La Luna, then I would add on a couple of years or three or even more just to be on the safe side.

Myrrh

02-26-16, 01:29

Down to three instead of four girls now including the obligatory Kathie. But this time held midweek so difficult to fit in with a weekend trip to Germany.

Vito Corleone

02-26-16, 08:08

Well it seems like a confirmation from multiple sources she's now at ACA.

Saucehollandaise

02-26-16, 09:58

Down to three instead of four girls now including the obligatory Kathie. But this time held midweek so difficult to fit in with a weekend trip to Germany.I thin it is very decent of them to do it on another day than Thursday, my usual "I cannot go " evening.

I emailed them once about maybe another day and there you go, nice people to oblige BUT, as misfortune has it on that day my usual Thursday training is moved to. Wednesday.

Saucehollandaise

02-26-16, 09:59

And Vanessa is quoted as having two ages on the same page of the website, 19 and 21.

http://www.club-laluna.com/sedcard-vanessa-12046.html

These girls are definitely still fairly young but, to allow for lack of updates on the website and Club Angelique starting ages being carried over to La Luna, then I would add on a couple of years or three or even more just to be on the safe side.I don't really mind about age. I mean we all know examples of 30-35 year old ladies who look better and younger than some girls in early 20's.

Myrrh

02-29-16, 22:06

Down to three instead of four girls now including the obligatory Kathie. But this time held midweek so difficult to fit in with a weekend trip to Germany.There seem to be less and less photos of the girls on the website. The new girls seem to nowadays tick the 'no photos' box on their staff application form when they join. Unless you know what the new girls look like you are less inclined to make a special trip to check them out.

If these girls are charging double the rates of the RTC girls then we need photos to assess for ourselves.

On my last trip I noticed Erika, another blonde like Flori but pretty ordinary looking. I would not have made a special trip for her.

I noticed that Roberta has now gone and that she took off her photos for a while before she left.

Are the girls now more conscious that their images could remain on the internet after they have quit the club. Maybe that is the reason why none of the girls photos appear on the current flyer for the latest gangbang, even though these girls (Kathie, Flori and Luiza) have photos on display on the website. When the girls leave often their individual photos are taken down but the group ones tend to linger.

A flyer with photos on it helps to whet the appetite but now instead we have a photo of a crowd of guys squashed together, like at their last gangbang.

YummyPL

03-03-16, 19:31

I will be going to LaLuna again this Saturday (5 March). Vanessa is my goal this time. There are a few reports here that make her sound like a mediocre session but I think she is the best looking of all of them.

Can someone verify:

She lets CIP?

Decent kissing?

CIM?

Speak any English?

I have seen Kathi and I think Maruna but I can't live by Kathi alone. Right now there are only 3 without pictures. Anybody see any of the newbies want to report?

Can anyone tell me if they let you bring beer or booze into LaLuna? Could make down time more interesting.

Anyone want to meet up, that would be great. The club is pretty boring going there alone. I mean, I can only drink so much coffee.

Myrrh

03-03-16, 23:27

Right now there are only 3 without pictures. Anybody see any of the newbies want to report?I'm guessing that you didn't see my post before you made your post. It was the one just before yours.

There seem to be less and less photos of the girls on the website. The new girls seem to nowadays tick the 'no photos' box on their staff application form when they join. Unless you know what the new girls look like you are less inclined to make a special trip to check them out.

If these girls are charging double the rates of the RTC girls then we need photos to assess for ourselves.

On my last trip I noticed Erika, another blonde like Flori but pretty ordinary looking. I would not have made a special trip for her.

Sportsman

03-04-16, 01:33

She lets CIP? - Yes.

Decent kissing? - Pretty good kisser.

CIM? - Never tried it, I sensed that it is not one of favorite things to do.

Speak any English? - hardly any English at all. I have fun using my cell phone's google translate to communicate with her if needed. The club has wifi. Ask the tekefrau for password.

YummyPL

03-04-16, 18:52

I'm guessing that you didn't see my post before you made your post. It was the one just before yours.Yes, I saw your report but it really didn't do anything to answer my question. You mentioned one blond that you didn't go to a room with that you thought wasn't worth a trip to see. And the others without pictures? Attitude? Language ability? Performance?

Myrrh

03-04-16, 20:11

Yes, I saw your report but it really didn't do anything to answer my question. You mentioned one blond that you didn't go to a room with that you thought wasn't worth a trip to see. And the others without pictures? Attitude? Language ability? Performance?Sorry, and what font size do you want that report in? Or do you want the lines double spaced?

I am guessing looking further than the page you are on is too much of an effort. Well, in two mouse clicks I found at least two reports by other members which gave significant information about Amira, one of the three girls who does not display photos. Written by members whose names begin with J and M. Clue!.

Optimist

03-09-16, 13:41

DFWdude

03-16-16, 17:29

Christian G

03-16-16, 18:58

Planning on visiting LL next week, Thursday or Friday, I have not been since the LL days of old. I heard that the pricing is $25 entry, $60 for 20 min. But I have also heard that now they charge an additional $20 for CIP? Thinking of fucking two girls while I am there, Kathi and Vanessa. Any other suggestions?On their website the entry price is always €20 and 30 min GVO €60 http://club-laluna.com/index.php/Infos.html.

YummyPL

03-18-16, 12:02

Yummy. Vanessa is superb looking in real life, if she is in the mood and takes her pajamas off. Session wise she is better than mediocre but not in the same league as Kathi and Miruna (now gone).

How did your trip go?Yes I saw what she looked like a previous time there when she seemed more interested in dancing with her co workers than getting costomers and I didn't fully understand the sitting with them on their couch thing to indicate you were ready for them. I spent two hours sitting on a couch and didn't think anyone wanted to work before I approached Kathi while she was walking. Now I understand the process.

In any case, other than her tits (I like small but very perky and her's are not very perky), Vanessa is very much exactly my taste. I had an hour with her then after waiting for Kathi for maybe 90 minutes without success I spent 2 more hours with Vanessa. I actually like her very much and was surprised by how good she kissed as she was very passive on the couch.

I just liked the nice combo of relaxing in the arms of a very sexy girl, having hard and heavy sex, and having long, slow sex. And her body and face turned me on a lot. Certainly not as actively passionate as Kathi but I think I liked her just as much.

Optimist

03-18-16, 14:59

Planning on visiting LL next week, Thursday or Friday, I have not been since the LL days of old. I heard that the pricing is $25 entry, $60 for 20 min. But I have also heard that now they charge an additional $20 for CIP? Thinking of fucking two girls while I am there, Kathi and Vanessa. Any other suggestions?Vanessa and Kathi are the best choices, but if they are busy then Flori provides a very good session, but limited German or English. Her face is a little unusual and may put you off, and her body is past its best, but her attitude is excellent.

Wry Cooter

03-19-16, 07:26

Op, what do you think the odds are that they'd both be up for a threesome? I'd enjoy the prospect of that but, strange as this may be, Kathi strikes me as someone who doesn't want to play second banana to anyone. I'm sure she enjoys being the starlet in a GB but uncertain if she'd like working in tandem with another girl.

Vanessa and Kathi are the best choices, but if they are busy then Flori provides a very good session, but limited German or English. Her face is a little unusual and may put you off, and her body is past its best, but her attitude is excellent.

Myrrh

03-19-16, 10:56

Vanessa and Kathi are the best choices, but if they are busy then Flori provides a very good session, but limited German or English. Her face is a little unusual and may put you off, and her body is past its best, but her attitude is excellent.Wow, Optimist. That is a little strong don't you think. Flori has flashing eyes and flared nostrils teamed with big blonde hair which probably make her a little bit unusual compared to the other girls (who have dark eyes, dark hair, thinner noses). But she is also warm in manner, responsive and attentive unlike Vanessa who I find to be a very odd girl indeed.

Watching Vanessa sitting there on the couch she seems very ill at ease with herself and the world. Constantly restless, tossing her head from side to side like a bull in a pen. Fidgeting with her clothes and shifting uncomfortably in her seat with a strange look of absorption on her face almost as if she is listening to voices inside her head.

The other girls seem much more relaxed and at ease. When they are not heads down in their phones they will occasionally meet your gaze and smile at you to encourage you. Not Vanessa, she seems completely absorbed in her own little bubble.

Optimist

03-19-16, 11:21

Op, what do you think the odds are that they'd both be up for a threesome? I'd enjoy the prospect of that but, strange as this may be, Kathi strikes me as someone who doesn't want to play second banana to anyone. I'm sure she enjoys being the starlet in a GB but uncertain if she'd like working in tandem with another girl.I think they would do it, and it should work ok, but I think you are right, Kathi won't be able to give her best, but that should be more than compensated for by having two very sexy looking girls together. I might try it, you have got me drooling. Threesomes are not common in the club, in fact when I tried to organise one via Flori, it failed to happen as she wanted only a 1 to 1 session.

By the way, when is your next trip? I'm going in April.

Wry Cooter

03-21-16, 08:26

Uncertain. Possibly June or July. Like going to GT, Oase, and Sharks where & when there is outdoor fun to be had in the summer months. A few AO clubs would also be on the agenda. Do you know of any that have nice outdoor areas?

I think they would do it, and it should work ok, but I think you are right, Kathi won't be able to give her best, but that should be more than compensated for by having two very sexy looking girls together. I might try it, you have got me drooling. Threesomes are not common in the club, in fact when I tried to organise one via Flori, it failed to happen as she wanted only a 1 to 1 session.

By the way, when is your next trip? I'm going in April.

Optimist

03-21-16, 16:17

. Do you know of any that have nice outdoor areas?None have decent outdoor areas. Venus has a small area, more like a yard, but it's not particularly pleasant.

Vito Corleone

03-22-16, 06:51

Saucehollandaise

03-25-16, 21:29

Wow, Optimist. That is a little strong don't you think. Flori has flashing eyes and flared nostrils teamed with big blonde hair which probably make her a little bit unusual compared to the other girls.Indeed, in fact I find what Optimist thinks unusual rather attractive.

Optimist

03-26-16, 11:06

Myrrh. I agree with you totally about Vanessa and Flori.

I chose the word "unusual" for Flori without any derogatory implications. Unusual is value free. I was also aware that she is not the hardest fit body teen around, so felt I needed to make this clear as I was recommending her as worth trying. She is a far better session than Vanessa. I have sessioned with Flori about five times, and Vanessa once. Vanessa I find hard to work with, but she is good for a no frills mechanical go with a superb body. She is difficult, for example last time she ignored me for hours in favor of her phone, but when I was dressed and leaving she jumped onto me, arms round my neck, kiss, smile, and the jumped down to her seat as if I didn't exist.

Bukudala

03-27-16, 18:03

Did Roberta retire, taka a vacation, or move to another club? She made me feel like a 20 year old. Sigh.

Saucehollandaise

03-28-16, 11:25

for example last time she ignored me for hours in favor of her phone, but when I was dressed and leaving she jumped onto me, arms round my neck, kiss, smile, and the jumped down to her seat as if I didn't exist.I doubt that us men will ever fully understand women.

Myrrh

03-28-16, 16:25

Did Roberta retire, taka a vacation, or move to another club? She made me feel like a 20 year old. Sigh.She took her photos off the site a few weeks before she disappeared from the roster completely. They normally put a notice against the girl's names if they are away on holiday.

Here is an earlier photo of Roberta for nostalgia purposes.

Myrrh

03-28-16, 16:33

Did Roberta retire, taka a vacation, or move to another club? She made me feel like a 20 year old. Sigh.She took her photos off the site a few weeks before she disappeared from the roster completely. They normally put a notice against the girl's names if they are only away on holiday.

For nostalgia purposes here is an earlier photo of Roberta, before she lost a little of her puppy fat.

I can see what they say about her not being exactly a 'gazelle' in terms of her body type.

Bukudala

03-29-16, 11:36

She took her photos off the site a few weeks before she disappeared from the roster completely. They normally put a notice against the girl's names if they are only away on holiday.

For nostalgia purposes here is an earlier photo of Roberta, before she lost a little of her puppy fat.

I can see what they say about her not being exactly a 'gazelle' in terms of her body type.Thanks Myrrh,

I was told by Lisa she's "urlaub. ".

I certainly hope she returns. No, not a gazelle, but still incredibly (to me, anyway) sexy. Kisses like a GF, has P.S. Oral skills, and knows how to use her body. Had a steamy session with her in the shower afterwards. Love this lady. I guess it's on to Flori or Vanessa until she returns!

Optimist

04-11-16, 21:55

Vito Corleone

04-12-16, 05:03

Optimist

04-13-16, 17:08

Some of those girls look like they were just released from solitary confinement!They never have a day off, so I'm not sure if they will ever get out. Weirdly they seem happy to be in their self contained alternative universe.

Myrrh

04-13-16, 22:55

Just to confirm that little changes at the club. The girls still tend to ignore customers in favor of their mobile phones, and make no effort to invite attention. Service however from Kathi and Flori (and probably others) remains top quality. The sort of service which has become rare in FKK.Which FKK is this? If you are talking about the famous, large FKKs then yes. However the RTCs, which are also actually FKKs, generally have at least some girls in each one who provide service on a par to the girls at Luna.

Luna's 'unique selling points' to justify its girls charging double the rates of RTC girls is that the Luna girls are supposed to be more attractive and provide superior service.

But how true is that nowadays. Maybe in the former Angelique days, in terms of the girl's looks, but not now.

Attractiveness? Kassandra was one of the biggest eye sores I have ever seen in any club yet she was at Luna for a long while. Other girls like Luiza are not attractive by any criteria despite how they appear in the club photos.

Of the current girls only Kathi and Vanessa I find visually attractive and Kathi is pretty worn out by now. She is normally being shagged from the moment she enters the building till she leaves and this has been happening on a daily basis for years. Not to mention the gangbangs which she also attends.

Attitudes? The attitudes of the girls as Optimists points out are a lot worse than any RTC. In RTC clubs the girls are usually smiling invitingly at customers rather than ignoring them for their phones. In fact I can't remember ever seeing a RTC girl looking at their phone.

Nudity? RTC girls walk round stark bollock naked except for strategically place items of 'adornment' like belts, stockings and suspenders which only serves to emphasize their nakedness. Luna girls never walk around naked, not even on designated 'FKK' days. Indeed they can often be seen wearing extra layers of clothing like pajamas and dressing gowns.

Public sex? Readily available in a few RTCs. The Luna girl generally shuns it.

Outdoor area? Most of the RTCs have a back garden or patio which you can sit outside for a bit of fresh air. Luna only has a carpark.

Size / facilities / comfort? Many of the RTCs are far bigger than Luna. Also have better and bigger showers than Luna. Some even have a sun bed. You could also walk about in just a towel and feel entirely comfortable and warm. In Luna it is pretty draughty and sometimes cold. Which probably explains why the girls like to keep their clothes on.

Food? At Luna? Don't make me laugh. At least RTCs make an effort however token it is to provide some sort of food like sandwiches, soup and fruit. Luna is known for its glorified coffee machine and no food.

Price / Value for money? This one is a no-brainier. Depending on the girl, at an RTC you can get absolutely everything for the cost of only 30 euros. That includes BBBJ, CIM, kissing, bareback and anal. The Luna girl, like the FKK girl, charges extra per service provided. Bareback costs twice as much at Luna compared to an RTC.

The only advantages that I could give for Luna compared to an RTC is that the owner has done a good job in turning the old place into a clean and well decorated environment. This compares to the shabby, dowdy interiors of most RTCs. Also Luna holds gangbangs occasionally, which I wish the RTCs would also hold. However the gangbangs at Luna are fairly infrequent at 2 or 3 months apart, only last 3 hours and have been renowned for being ludicrously overcrowded.

Optimist

04-14-16, 08:59

Myrrh. When I mentioned FKK, I meant the likes of Artemis, Oase.

As for your comparison with rtc, I think you've summarised it extremely well, although you are rather hard on Kathi, who is still doing top rate work.

BigBuddy69

04-15-16, 21:24

For all the Evelyn fanatics, she now works in aca velbert. I had a small talk with her, she had a baby recently, is still looking good and was really friendly. Her English improved.

Vito Corleone

04-16-16, 08:01

For all the Evelyn fanatics, she now works in aca velbert. I had a small talk with her, she had a baby recently, is still looking good and was really friendly. Her English improved.She's been there a couple months but I haven't seen her there yet. I'm curious if she still provides the same service.

Myrrh

04-16-16, 10:01

For all the Evelyn fanatics, she now works in aca velbert. I had a small talk with her, she had a baby recently, is still looking good and was really friendly.I'm surprised by that. It was only in September of last year, 6 to 7 months ago, that Opti announced that Evelyn (Eveline) had left the club. A month or so before that when I last saw her she was her usual skinny as a rake self.

Then in February Vits announced that she was now working at ACA.

So how does 4 to 5 months or so give her enough time to get pregnant, swell up, deliver the sprog, slim back down and be back in business accepting dicks once more?

I remember Vits mentioning that she had a baby back in her Angelique days. So she now has two?

Happy Fkk

04-20-16, 00:39

I'm surprised by that. It was only in September of last year, 6 to 7 months ago, that Opti announced that Evelyn (Eveline) had left the club. A month or so before that when I last saw her she was her usual skinny as a rake self.

Then in February Vits announced that she was now working at ACA.

So how does 4 to 5 months or so give her enough time to get pregnant, swell up, deliver the sprog, slim back down and be back in business accepting dicks once more?

I remember Vits mentioning that she had a baby back in her Angelique days. So she now has two?She had the baby before 6 or 7 months ago. He should be 1, maybe 2 years old now.

Optimist

04-20-16, 16:50

She had the baby before 6 or 7 months ago. He should be 1, maybe 2 years old now.Pretty much correct. I think he must be around 2.

BigBuddy69

04-21-16, 13:25

I was with Evelyn in Viersen 2 years and 2 months ago so I don't think the baby is that older.

Just congratulations to her, I saw her topless in Aca and she is still lovely, maybe she has gained a very little belly now. If I see her again I'll try to take her to the room. Her service was maybe light in CA but in Aca, she should be really above average!

She told me her sister Denisa had a baby too and is now living in Romania.

HungUpDown

05-01-16, 22:51

How is the Sunday lineup?

Opening times Mon- Thur. 11 to 01 h; FR. & Sat 11 to 03 h; Sun. & Holidays 11 to 24 h. So wondering if there's fewer DLs around during Sunday early hours (morning or afternoon).

Planned visit Sun 5th June, or maybe Mon 6th. If any other member can make it, the chance of a chat in English is much improved.

Vito Corleone

05-02-16, 02:50

Myrrh

05-23-16, 23:10

I'm guessing that there will be no gangbangs this month as none has been announced as of yet and it is now already near the end of May. The last one was back in March.

Before the change of ownership these gangbangs used to be held every month without fail and the club became legendary as a result of them.

Under the new ownership this has changed to every 2 or sometimes 3 months.

They are obviously finding it difficult to talk the girls into doing them but they do serve a purpose of getting people talking about the place.

Without them the club could be in danger of just falling off the radar.

Optimist

05-28-16, 14:49

It looks to me as if they have lost interest in the club and are just cruising until the new law closes them down next year. The website is not kept up to date, no new girls, existing girls tired and listless, maybe being involved with a relative of the previous owner does not help a certain girl. Maybe I am wrong.

Myrrh

05-29-16, 09:56

The website is not kept up to date, no new girls, existing girls tired and listless, maybe being involved with a relative of the previous owner does not help a certain girl.Sorry to hear that your beloved is no longer available to you in the same way as before. We know how much you liked her!

I just think that La Luna kind of missed a trick here since it's relaunch a few years ago. There was definitely a gap in the market between the RTCs which provided cheap, AO sex although ropey looking women and the FKKs which were expensive, did not readily provide AO but had significantly better looking women.

If only Luna had retained women of the caliber of the former Club Angelique then the place would have been rocking. Instead the women were no better than what you would find in the RTC but you were charged twice as much.

There have been many pretty girls over the years in the RTCs, clearly out of place among the other ugly ducklings. They eventually move on to the FKKs where they earn more per hour but have to face greater competition.

I am surprised these girls weren't attracted to Luna where they could leverage their looks and the higher rate charged for AO there to make a fortune for themselves and the club.

Women with FKK standard looks, but who provided AO and had the good attitude, discipline and customer focus of the RTC girls. That would have been the magic, hard to beat formula.

Biggusdickus

06-03-16, 00:43

(...) maybe being involved with a relative of the previous owner does not help a certain girl. (...)Are you suggesting that kathi is in a relationship and therefore her attitude is different now? If that is true then even though I could fall for her myself in other circumstances, I do not envy that poor chap! But maybe you were talking about another girl.

Optimist

06-05-16, 13:11

Are you suggesting that kathi is in a relationship and therefore her attitude is different now? If that is true then even though I could fall for her myself in other circumstances, I do not envy that poor chap! But maybe you were talking about another girl.I have been told by a couple of German men that K is in some kind of arrangement and has been for quite some time. I didn't mean to imply her service had declined. However working seven days a week seems (to me) to be to be a challenge for anybody.

Saucehollandaise

06-12-16, 09:10

Optimist

06-12-16, 11:05

It seems that redevelopment of the area may put an end to this club (of course the timescale for such things is unpredictable). In the meantime no new girls or gangbqangs.

Saucehollandaise

06-13-16, 13:13

It seems that redevelopment of the area may put an end to this club (of course the timescale for such things is unpredictable). In the meantime no new girls or gangbqangs.Says a guy with the name "optimist" :-D .

Myrrh

06-13-16, 21:20

Ofcourse the girls may not be too eager. Maybe also last GB, as far as I have read here, 18 men showed up. Perfectly acceptable for us, the men, but for LL management maybe not enough t to bother with organizing another one.These gangbangs have been going for years without any problems, and making money, so what's gone wrong?

Some of it is due to market forces. For a few years when the La Luna gangbang was in it's hey day there wasn't that much choice. If you wanted an AO gangbang then you either came here or to Club Tabulos (now defunct). But in recent years there has been a plethora of places offering bareback gangbangs or bareback group action of some sort. You can usually find a bareback gangbang happening somewhere most weeks of the year.

Since the new owner took over she made the gangbangs less regular. Every 2 or 3 months instead of monthly. Making them less regular should have increased the numbers of guys attending because there are less gangbangs to go to during the year.

Well, it did, but unfortunately the owner also decided to also decrease the space in which the gangbangs are held when she refurbished the place after taking over.

The lower basement space in which the gangbangs were held had always been particularly small. It was a split level room with one part being a raised platform. However during the refurbishments the owner decided to add another private room in the space that was previously taken up by the raised platform.

The result was that the space available was halved and the gangbangs got a reputation of just being ludicrously overcrowded. Like trying to organise a gangbang in one carriage of a Tokyo metro train during the rush hour.

Word spread rapidly and the numbers suddenly fell away dramatically. Perhaps losing 20 to 25 from the numbers at a stroke.

I think what the owner should have done when they removed the raised platform was to turn the old gangbang space into an open area with a very large bed and screens showing porn. Almost like a kino. Guys could go there to relax and watch porn or watch exhibitionist guys getting it on with the girls.

The owner has now moved the gangbangs into one of the main club areas but permanent damage has been done to the reputation of these gangbangs.

The current crop of girls don't like doing the gangbangs and cannot be persuaded / railroaded into doing them so easily like the previous owner was able to do.

This is also probably the reason why the gangbangs are held infrequently now. But with the drop in customer numbers the girls will be even less likely to be persuaded into doing them because they don't get big money as compensation like before.

Assuming that 20 euros of the gangbang entry fee goes to the club (given that this is the regular entry price) then this leaves 80 euros from each guy to go towards the girls. If only 18 guys turned up last time then this only gives 18 x80=1440 euros to share between 3 girls. So around 500 euros each. Less if the club takes more than 20 euros of the entry fee and if there is 4 instead of 3 girls.

Maybe not adequate enough compensation if you hate being treated like dog meat and being banged mercilessly by a horde of guys up to 100 times for 3 hours.

At the more overcrowded gangbangs the girls were probably getting the best part of 1000 euros for their efforts so it is difficult to take getting less money now.

Biggusdickus

06-13-16, 22:47

It seems that redevelopment of the area may put an end to this club (of course the timescale for such things is unpredictable). In the meantime no new girls or gangbqangs.I don't miss the gangbangs but I don't see the logic of this statement either. Why should there be no gangbangs involving the "old" girls even if the far future of the club may be unclear? Why not make as much money as possible as long as they can?

Biggusdickus

06-13-16, 23:03

Sorry to hear that your beloved is no longer available to you in the same way as before. We know how much you liked her! (...)When I visited "the moon" in the early days of June K was even more available than before. The experience was as good as ever but she wasn't constantly busy anymore. Other girls had barely one client over the whole day. Erika did her best to replace M and succeeded! - but she lacks the latter's legendary mystique yet. I think having only one dray-horse instead of two (K & M) is what the club is suffering from these days.

Anyway, it's a good time to meet K at the moment, none of the usual long queues right now!

Vito Corleone

06-14-16, 10:48

It seems that redevelopment of the area may put an end to this club (of course the timescale for such things is unpredictable). In the meantime no new girls or gangbqangs.Lisa dug her own grave when she started to cheat on room times. She was off by over an hour twice. Both times I stood my ground & paid what was owed. Not what she tried to get away with. After the second time I just decided to not even bother visiting as there are plenty of better options in the area.

Optimist

06-14-16, 14:35

I don't miss the gangbangs but I don't see the logic of this statement either. Why should there be no gangbangs involving the "old" girls even if the far future of the club may be unclear? Why not make as much money as possible as long as they can?Sorry, the brevity of my English made the meaning unclear. I meant to say that there are currently no gangbangs or flow of new girls, not that there would not be any: the causes can only be speculated upon. However, there are few signs of new life at the club (only one or two gangbangs this year, hardly any new girls, the website is not updated).

Anyway, I'll be taking the opportunity to retest the club in a couple of weeks

Optimist

06-14-16, 14:37

Says a guy with the name "optimist" :-D .Nice one :D

Saucehollandaise

06-23-16, 09:02

As some may have found out, I asked on a german forum about GB's and got an immediate response from someone who asked in the club two days earlier: And he was told there was nothing planned so far.

Vito Corleone

06-27-16, 00:23

Gangbang July 23.

Vito Corleone

06-27-16, 00:26

Shit. Since I'm not able to edit my post until moderator approves, there's no gangbang. A German friend was pulling my leg.

Myrrh

06-27-16, 19:27

Shit. Since I'm not able to edit my post until moderator approves, there's no gangbang. A German friend was pulling my leg.VitC,

La Luna internet site has an events page http://www.club-laluna.com/index.php/events-100.html and they would advertise it on there at least a few days before the event, otherwise no one would turn up!

Saucehollandaise

06-28-16, 09:00

Shit. Since I'm not able to edit my post until moderator approves, there's no gangbang. A German friend was pulling my leg.That's what friends are for.

Vito Corleone

06-28-16, 09:58

I was mostly trying to get info on the specific details about F39 situation, where the girls went & etc. Yes. I know there's info available on other forums but these guys I've known for many years & they visit the RTC clubs 2-5 times a week.

Optimist

06-30-16, 20:51

Kathi is on holiday tomorrow for probably a month. Service with her today was as usual top rate. The trouble with so called GFE is that after the sex wears off one wonders why one is paying a fortune for the GFE stuck in a dingy room. Communication (in romanian) is improving but it is a long time investment.

As always gamine Kathi highly recommended for sex and kissing and schmusen (can't think of an English word). Meaningful discussions on relationships, politics and the meaning of life are not her strong point.

Wry Cooter

07-02-16, 06:39

Op.

Glad you got to see her before she went on holiday. Yes, it would be very nice if LL could renovate a little or find a better venue. I hope it at least stays cool there during the summer months. It is a basement after all.

Any other ladies to note right now? Vanessa ever coming back?

Kathi is on holiday tomorrow for probably a month. Service with her today was as usual top rate. The trouble with so called GFE is that after the sex wears off one wonders why one is paying a fortune for the GFE stuck in a dingy room. Communication (in romanian) is improving but it is a long time investment.

As always gamine Kathi highly recommended for sex and kissing and schmusen (can't think of an English word). Meaningful discussions on relationships, politics and the meaning of life are not her strong point.

Optimist

07-02-16, 08:26

Wry, nobody new of note. Erika gets good reviews, but she has been there over six months so you will know her. I didn't ask after Vanessa.

Qtpie Forever

07-02-16, 09:36

Does anyone know where Dea is working now?

She was at the club around 2012-2013.

Myrrh

07-02-16, 16:21

Glad you got to see her before she went on holiday.

Vanessa ever coming back?Isn't it just Optimist's luck, to catch Kathi on her very last day before she goes off on a month long holiday. We know how keen he is on her.

With 3 of the 8 advertised girls, including Kathi and Vanessa, on holiday and only 2 photos visible for the remaining 5 girls, it is worth questioning whether a visit at this time is advisable.

Adindas

07-03-16, 12:36

I understand that Club La Luna Moers is a GB party. The girls on Club La Luna look like FKK quality girls, which is quite unusual in a GB / partytreffs or flatrates.

From the website. the price structure looks like 1to1 session to me.
http://www.club-laluna.com/index.php/Infos.html

Eintrittspreis: 20.
Servicepreise (Kssen, Schmusen, FO beidseitig, GV mit Kondom) 20 min: 30,30 min: 40,60 min: 70.
Is there any info, links regarding the price structure for GB party event??

Also understand that this GB party is tabulose (e. G AO).
Is there any on site HIV test?
Do the girls allow CIP?
Do the girls take shower between session??

How excited it is to fuck these georgeous girls on BB cock. I remember the feeling of jerking my girlfriends with BB cock and cum inside her p*ussy. But I am also concerned about HIV and Hygiene.

Any head up leads will be very much appreciated.

Thanks.

Christian G

07-03-16, 15:05

Eintrittspreis: 20.
Servicepreise (Kssen, Schmusen, FO beidseitig, GV mit Kondom) 20 min: 30,30 min: 40,60 min: 70.This price arent for AO sex but just for cover FS.

Is there any info, links regarding the price structure for GB party event??If you read the thread back is long time that no GB at this club and may be no longer?!

Also understand that this GB party is tabulose (e. G AO).
Is there any on site HIV test?Read the thread back, some members post a report on their GB, from memory I think that I never read about HIV test at La Luna, but I could be wrong.

DFWdude

07-05-16, 18:28

Wow with three girls on holiday, this leave just 5 girls present. While I did have a nice time with Erika, she is fairly cute and took a nice creampie. Not sure about the other. Planning on being in Germany in the next two weeks or so. With just the few left not sure if its worth the time to go. I do really miss the bar-room sex days of the old LL with Candy and the others.

Saucehollandaise

07-08-16, 11:05

Read the thread back, some members post a report on their GB, from memory I think that I never read about HIV test at La Luna, but I could be wrong.Haven't read about this either with laLuna but current laluna isn't the old La Luna, it seems to e a continuation of Angelique (Viersen) and I have read reports that they had HIV test (and other nasty stuff) results (by a doctor from Moers) available on request there.

Saucehollandaise

07-12-16, 14:29

Wow with three girls on holiday, this leave just 5 girls present.Now 6, a new girl, Sonja, added. Ofcourse with "Foto's folgen".

Myrrh

07-12-16, 21:41

I understand that Club La Luna Moers is a GB party.
From the website. the price structure looks like 1to1 session to me.
Also understand that this GB party is tabulose (e. G AO).
Is there any on site HIV test?
Do the girls allow CIP?
Do the girls take shower between session??
Any head up leads will be very much appreciated.La Luna has one of the most comprehensive websites of any club: 7 pages.

It also has one of the most active threads of any club it's size: 43 pages and over 600 posts.

Happy reading.

Saucehollandaise

07-18-16, 13:00

Now 6, a new girl, Sonja, added. Ofcourse with "Foto's folgen".And again, Francesca this time. "Foto's folgen", that is 5 out of 7 without images.

Myrrh

07-18-16, 21:12

The events and blog pages which used to proudly display photos and flyers for all of the events that the re-vamped La Luna club had ever done in the past, now shows precisely, nothing.

The club page which carried photos of the club interior, including the women who had worked there in the past posing in various rooms, now shows photos of the club interior only. Any photos featuring past and present girls have been completely purged.

It is almost as if the club is trying to just completely erase all the memories.

Three of the more experienced and better looking girls are now on holiday and it remains to be seen whether they will return, or will join the ranks of other celebrated performers like Roberta and Miruna and make their holidays permanent.

It is almost painful to see a once great club, one of the true forerunners of the German bareback (AO) scene along with the infamous Club Tabulos, going through it's death throes.

However change always happen, but sometimes clubs fail to adapt.

Maxime

07-19-16, 21:39

Vito Corleone

07-20-16, 00:00

It is indeed sad. When it was Club Angelique (in Vierssen) the service AND the customer is king atmosphere was super. Since in Moers, the attitude of some girls, but mainly the thekefrau was very annoying, and let many men decide to go elsewhere (and with so many RTCs around where you can get the same service level for Euro 30 per session, they were also overpriced). Each club gets the customers it deserves (or not, as in this case).I agree with everything except the sad part. The BS Lisa tried to pull on her customers she deserves having her business in the toilet. I'm tempted to enter & hold the door open & ask her how business is & laugh in her face & walk out.

Maxime

07-28-16, 13:20

I agree with everything except the sad part. The BS Lisa tried to pull on her customers she deserves having her business in the toilet. I'm tempted to enter & hold the door open & ask her how business is & laugh in her face & walk out.LOL, let's do that with 10 punters and then ask Lisa for directions to another club! .

Saucehollandaise

09-10-16, 10:47

It is indeed sad. When it was Club Angelique (in Vierssen) the service AND the customer is king atmosphere was super. Since in Moers, the attitude of some girls, but mainly the thekefrau was very annoying, and let many men decide to go elsewhere (and with so many RTCs around where you can get the same service level for Euro 30 per session, they were also overpriced). Each club gets the customers it deserves (or not, as in this case).The Times They Are A Changin'.

From the LL Blog.

Neues aus dem LaLuna
Neue Thekenfee im Club Laluna Moers - Alina is in the House!
Liebe Freunde und romantische Freunde des Moerser Sündenkellers.
Ab sofort begrüßt und verwöhnt die charmante

Alina.
wieder die Gäste des Club Laluna.
Dieses mal hinter der Theke.
Wir freuen uns auf ein Wiedersehen.
Alina und das Team vom Club LaLuna.

Optimist

09-10-16, 11:18

It needs more than Alina I think.

BigBuddy69

09-10-16, 14:52

She was the last girl I did in Club Angelique.

Myrrh

09-11-16, 14:14

It needs more than Alina I think.On the website it says 'New Thekenfrau Club Laluna Moers. Alina is in the House!

The charming Alina again the guest of Club Laluna. This time behind the bar. We look forward to seeing you again. Alina and the team of Club LaLuna'.

Is this her in the photo attached? If so then it looks as though if she is going to be spreading her legs then it will be behind the bar where no one will see.

BigBuddy69

09-11-16, 20:44

It's her but she gained some weight lately.

Vito Corleone

09-12-16, 12:01

On the website it says 'New Thekenfrau Club Laluna Moers. Alina is in the House!

The charming Alina again the guest of Club Laluna. This time behind the bar. We look forward to seeing you again. Alina and the team of Club LaLuna'.

Is this her in the photo attached? If so then it looks as though if she is going to be spreading her legs then it will be behind the bar where no one will see.If the biggest news from this place in ages is a new lady working the reception then this club must really be in bad shape. Before the rtc's monopolized the AO market, this place was really mind boggling. This was during the glory days (5-6 owners ago). How the mighty have fallen!

Biggusdickus

09-19-16, 09:33

There's new news now a whole day "party" October 13th. I wonder if the 120 euro are just for a whole day flatrate or if the event is meant to be some kind of daylong gangbang party.

Saucehollandaise

09-20-16, 17:37

There's new news now a whole day "party" October 13th. I wonder if the 120 euro are just for a whole day flatrate or if the event is meant to be some kind of daylong gangbang party.I think it is flatrateday, but as usual they plan something on a day I have to work.

Myrrh

09-20-16, 22:43

There's new news now a whole day "party" October 13th. I wonder if the 120 euro are just for a whole day flatrate or if the event is meant to be some kind of daylong gangbang party.I don't get the management here.

They've stopped doing the gangbangs, for which the club was renowned and had been going for years, probably because attendance on these had gone down for the last two or three gangbangs. But these gangbangs at their peak attracted 50 to 60 punters and even at their lowest 20+.

Each entrant was charged 100 euros for just 3 hours of action. So the club was taking at least 20 x 100 = 2000 euros in just three hours and sometimes double that amount or more. So up to 4000 or 5000 in 3 hours. This was on top of the normal takings for the rest of the day as some punters preferred one-on-one action to the gangbangs.

With the flat rate they will probably get less guys through the door than on gangbang day (so less money for the club) but all of the girls will be worked hard all day and take home less money than if they had participated in a gangbang.

Also guys who were planning to attend on days either side of the flat rate day will attend on flat rate day instead and so the week's revenue will be down.

Doesn't the club remember that it was these flat rate days which made the girls at the former Club Angelique want to quit?

Biggusdickus

10-14-16, 08:56

I doubt the club had less guests yesterday than on gangbang events. I guess for the club and for most of the girls the even was a financial success. There were in fact so many guests that at times 15 or more males were sitting and standing around, just waiting for any one girl to reappear from a room. Rooms were scarce most of the times and particularly in the afternoon. Our top girl did about four guests per hour, and a new girl couldn't accept any more guests at 4 pm because her working tool was hurting from overusage. However, probably being a success for the club the event was less enjoyable for us men.

If they repeat the event I won't be there again. With 7 girls in total, 5 of them doable for me, 1 of them "out of order" when I got to her, and none of them allowed to go to the room twice with the same guest, the "number of numbers" was quite limited. I understand the only-once-with-each-girl-rule but if that limits the number of rounds to 4 in total over the whole day then they would simply need more girls (and more rooms or couples ready to do it in the open). In addition to the limited number of girls available my 4 rooms lasted about 10 minutes each even though "officially" a 20 minute limit had been announced. So 40 hectic minutes in total, and always being on the lookout for a girl that is not immediately taken to a room by somebody else, that was not worth the 120 euros for me. A full hour with kathi comes cheaper and is much more intense fun.

The food was good and plentiful.

P.S. I wonder how they distribute the money among the girls. Seems like a classical game theory problem to me. If they distribute the total amount among the girls in proportion of the number of rooms of each girl did, then the girls could just cooperate and cut their numbers of rooms down to a half by taking long showers, long breaks or whatever way. As long as they all cooperate their salary at the end of the day would be the same. But if one girl tries to get herself an edge over the others by accepting more customers then all the others would have to follow suit.

Optimist

10-16-16, 14:27

Website now says Alina is available (buchbar) from November.

Frula

10-17-16, 07:24

Website now says Alina is available (buchbar) from November.I think that says until November not from November.

Biggusdickus

11-12-16, 00:58

Club la luna announces another gangbang event on December 6th.

Myrrh

11-12-16, 14:36

Club la luna announces another gangbang event on December 6th.The gangbang has always been 100 euros, for years, but for the first time the price has been jacked up to 120 euros even though there are only 3 girls rather than the 4 which was the norm before the new manager took over. You are now paying 40 euros for each of the 3 hours of action (assuming you can push your way to the front of the queues). This also works out at 40 euros per girl.

LOL, the manager reacts to the fact that the number of guys attending these gangbangs has rapidly dwindled in the last few events by jacking up the price 20% and reducing the number of girls by 25%.

Saucehollandaise

11-12-16, 16:27

LOL, the manager reacts to the fact that the number of guys attending these gangbangs has rapidly dwindled in the last few events by jacking up the price 20% and reducing the number of girls by 25%.Correct about the increase in price but the number of girls has been 3 most of the time (at least in the announcement). I have once attended a 3 girl GB and I would not know how a 4 girl GB in the tiny cellar could even fit in there.

CeeJay1

11-30-16, 04:33

I'm debating if I should go to the gangbang held on Dec. 06.16. I'm contemplating it will be over crowded and the girls will probably give a robotic performance. Any suggestions?

Myrrh

12-02-16, 00:58

I'm debating if I should go to the gangbang held on Dec. 06.16. I'm contemplating it will be over crowded and the girls will probably give a robotic performance. Any suggestions?120 euros for only 3 girls for only 3 hours is possibly the worst gang bang deal ever. That is even before you throw in the chronic overcrowding and the cramped conditions.

Probably works out at 40 euros for each girl with less than 5 minutes with each one.

Saucehollandaise

12-02-16, 09:20

120 euros for only 3 girls for only 3 hours is possibly the worst gang bang deal ever. That is even before you throw in the chronic overcrowding and the cramped conditions.

Probably works out at 40 euros for each girl with less than 5 minutes with each one.3 hour GB is a bit short but the usual stuff in LL, personally I prefer at least 4 hours. However last GB was not so crowded and I have heard.

Mind you, there are girls on the web that offer GB's for two hours (same price though) so technically speaking this is not the worst deal.

CeeJay1

12-04-16, 05:47

120 euros for only 3 girls for only 3 hours is possibly the worst gang bang deal ever. That is even before you throw in the chronic overcrowding and the cramped conditions.

Probably works out at 40 euros for each girl with less than 5 minutes with each one.Thanks for crunching the numbers Myrrh, but I already made up my mind anyways from drawing on past experiences like you mentioned overcrowding, cramped condition's and lets not forget your in the dark because La Luna's doesn't believe in light. I'm sure the girls are kinda forced into. In other words, put in an uncompromising postion to do it, which would included the trite shitty performance, we are all used too. I've alread been with two of the performers a while back anyways. So, there is no telling how many dirty dicks have been through them since.

I would more than likely, be paying 120€ to be a spectator. And what would I really be spectating? A pile of naked guys on top of the thing I can even see anyways. 120€ to see a bunch of guys naked bums, LOL, No Thank You!

Myrrh

12-05-16, 01:59

Thanks for crunching the numbers Myrrh, but I already made up my mind anyways from drawing on past experiences like you mentioned overcrowding, cramped condition's and lets not forget your in the dark because La Luna's doesn't believe in light. I'm sure the girls are kinda forced into. In other words, put in an uncompromising postion to do it, which would included the trite shitty performance, we are all used too. I've alread been with two of the performers a while back anyways. So, there is no telling how many dirty dicks have been through them since.Back in the day, we are talking the best part of 10 years ago, if you wanted a bareback gangbang in Germany there were fairly limited options. Probably only Club Tabulos (now defunct) and La Luna. Those clubs were pioneering back in those days. But things have moved on since. Now you could probably find a bareback gangbang somewhere in Germany for pretty much every day of the week. These are almost all significantly cheaper than the Luna bangs with longer hours and more girls.

Also it is well known that apart from Kathy none of the other girls at Luna really want to do the gangbangs which is why there are such long gaps of a few months between each event. The girls here can charge 90 euros per hour for each guy so they are hardly enthusiastic about being tossed around like a rag doll under a crowd of bodies.

From the report by biggusdickus for the flat rate event recently in October it was over run by guys and not good value for money.

"There were in fact so many guests that at times 15 or more males were sitting and standing around, just waiting for any one girl to reappear from a room. Rooms were scarce most of the times and particularly in the afternoon. Our top girl did about four guests per hour, and a new girl couldn't accept any more guests at 4 pm because her working tool was hurting from over usage. However, probably being a success for the club the event was less enjoyable for us men.

If they repeat the event I won't be there again."

Millenia

12-06-16, 01:17

Yes, during my limited travels to Germany I have gone to both of these clubs several times. I went to Club Tabulos or Evas in January 2010 right before it moved. It was in a city on a corner of the street on the second floor.

Then I went to a great party several months later at the new location. I wrote a report on it. Went there for another party. I also went to a gang-bank at La Luna I think on the same trip and have been there three or four other times. Probably going there for one on one a week from Friday.

Back in the day, we are talking the best part of 10 years ago, if you wanted a bareback gangbang in Germany there were fairly limited options. Probably only Club Tabulos (now defunct) and La Luna. Those clubs were pioneering back in those days. But things have moved on since. Now you could probably find a bareback gangbang somewhere in Germany for pretty much every day of the week. These are almost all significantly cheaper than the Luna bangs with longer hours and more girls.

Also it is well known that apart from Kathy none of the other girls at Luna really want to do the gangbangs which is why there are such long gaps of a few months between each event. The girls here can charge 90 euros per hour for each guy so they are hardly enthusiastic about being tossed around like a rag doll under a crowd of bodies.

From the report by biggusdickus for the flat rate event recently in October it was over run by guys and not good value for money.

"There were in fact so many guests that at times 15 or more males were sitting and standing around, just waiting for any one girl to reappear from a room. Rooms were scarce most of the times and particularly in the afternoon. Our top girl did about four guests per hour, and a new girl couldn't accept any more guests at 4 pm because her working tool was hurting from over usage. However, probably being a success for the club the event was less enjoyable for us men.

If they repeat the event I won't be there again."

Saucehollandaise

12-06-16, 14:00

I had every intention to go BUT. The weather is nice, I decided to make my garden winter ready instead rather than drive in total for more than 3 hours for 3 hours of GB.

Myrrh

12-19-16, 21:32

Some of the girls have been given new makeover pics on the website.

I have never seen Kathi or Vanessa looking more sensational (or more shopped).

Also, Vanessa is still only 19!

Neurosynth

12-20-16, 03:46

Do you have any pictures of Vanessa that are more accurate to real life? Because it's hard to believe that photo started out un-hot.

Wry Cooter

12-20-16, 07:45

I was there a few weeks ago and she looks more like the newer photos showing her as a brunette. IMHO the second most fickable girl there after Kathi.

Do you have any pictures of Vanessa that are more accurate to real life? Because it's hard to believe that photo started out un-hot.

Vito Corleone

12-20-16, 08:13

Some of the girls have been given new makeover pics on the website.

I have never seen Kathi or Vanessa looking more sensational (or more shopped).

Also, Vanessa is still only 19!Vanessa's skin tone is much darker in person.

Neurosynth

12-20-16, 15:09

Vanessa's skin tone is much darker in person.Ah, interesting choice on their part. But then I guess they know their audience.

Saucehollandaise

12-21-16, 12:13

Also, Vanessa is still only 19!Kathi is also 21 for about six years IIRC, there must be something special in the coffee there.

Optimist

12-21-16, 12:49

Kathi is also 21 for about six years IIRC, there must be something special in the coffee there.Every time I go there I get a year younger.

Bukudala

12-26-16, 12:27

Anyone know where Roberta disappeared to? Retired? Thanks.

Vito Corleone

01-05-17, 02:44

Anyone know where Roberta disappeared to? Retired? Thanks.Sauna club flack in Oberhausen.

Myrrh

01-06-17, 00:27

Sauna club flack in Oberhausen.Now that we know where she has gone to I am sure that many of us can't wait to get 'back together again' with this firm favorite who when she was working at Luna club had our 'world in a spin'.

Optimist

01-07-17, 20:09

Sauna club flack in Oberhausen.You'll be pleased to know that on at least one german forum there is a post asking where Saunaclub Flack is.

Vito Corleone

01-08-17, 12:26

You'll be pleased to know that on at least one german forum there is a post asking where Saunaclub Flack is.I received a couple PM's about SC flack, Dom & my trip to Munich Feb. Something!

Myrrh

01-08-17, 23:08

Anyone know where Roberta disappeared to? Retired? Thanks.Is this the girl we are talking about? If so then I am sure that she has cracked more than a few nuts between those big thighs in her time at La Luna.

Optimist

01-11-17, 15:43

Halfhour is 40, one hour 70, but this is not AO. The provision of AO is now officially nonexistent, for obvious reasons.

Myrrh

01-14-17, 16:22

Have you guys already lined up a date for Valentine's day yet?

Optimist

01-15-17, 13:00

Myrrh

01-15-17, 13:33

Reports of the last flat rate day were that it was hard to get sessions of more than 15 minutes and not the best of atmospheres: of course the pressure on clients is to go with the less attractive girls. I wasn't there so it is secondhand info.Yes, it's what Biggus said.

I doubt the club had less guests yesterday than on gangbang events. I guess for the club and for most of the girls the even was a financial success. There were in fact so many guests that at times 15 or more males were sitting and standing around, just waiting for any one girl to reappear from a room. Rooms were scarce most of the times and particularly in the afternoon. Our top girl did about four guests per hour, and a new girl couldn't accept any more guests at 4 pm because her working tool was hurting from overusage. However, probably being a success for the club the event was less enjoyable for us men.

If they repeat the event I won't be there again. With 7 girls in total, 5 of them doable for me, 1 of them "out of order" when I got to her, and none of them allowed to go to the room twice with the same guest, the "number of numbers" was quite limited. I understand the only-once-with-each-girl-rule but if that limits the number of rounds to 4 in total over the whole day then they would simply need more girls (and more rooms or couples ready to do it in the open). In addition to the limited number of girls available my 4 rooms lasted about 10 minutes each even though "officially" a 20 minute limit had been announced. So 40 hectic minutes in total, and always being on the lookout for a girl that is not immediately taken to a room by somebody else, that was not worth the 120 euros for me. A full hour with kathi comes cheaper and is much more intense fun.

The food was good and plentiful.Well at least the food was plentiful. There is nothing worse than the troops having to perform on an empty stomach. Plus I am sure that the coffee machine has never looked more sexier, polished and chromed.

Maxime

01-15-17, 14:03

Optimist

01-15-17, 15:23

Big difference with last few times it was a GB party from 18-21, so 3 hours where all men want to enjoy all girls at the same time.

This time it is just flat rate for whole day, during 11-22, so 11 hours, which will spread the crowd somewhat.Hi Maxime. I was referring to the last flat rate day late last year. As you say the GB is something completely different.

Vito Corleone

01-19-17, 03:33

Have you guys already lined up a date for Valentine's day yet?Due to popular demand the event has been canceled.

Optimist

01-19-17, 16:42

Well spotted. I bet it's the girls who demanded the cancellation.

DFWdude

01-26-17, 19:49

Now LL offers sex in the open public area every Thursday. As a big fan of public sex, especially when its AO, this is a great thing. I remember the old LL, not all the punters and girls did it, but still the opportunity is great. Hope it stays around till next month when I go!.

BigBuddy69

01-26-17, 21:45

Who is the theke now? Alina? And is it common on a Thursday to see public sex?

Frula

01-27-17, 09:13

Who is the theke now? Alina? And is it common on a Thursday to see public sex?I was there in December, and there were two older woman working the reception. As far as I know Alina is no longer there.

I asked where is Lisa, and they said she is on vacation. Also I was there many times on Thursday, and never saw any public sex. Only kissing, groping, and quick blowjob if you want.

Optimist

01-27-17, 12:59

All the current girls dislike public sex so I doubt it will really happen much, or at least not with enthusiasm. I guess the girls found it a better option than the flat rate day.

Biggusdickus

02-03-17, 23:49

Was there yesterday (Thursday). Instead of the 7-8 girls listed available on the website there were only 4 present until mid-afternoon when I left. (I didn't expect to meed kathi even though the website states she is on holiday until end of January.) well, I think the club should try harder, particularly when the top shots are absent.

Optimist

02-16-17, 08:33

Kathi is back and providing absolute top quality service and was the reason for my visit. The club didn't have much other choice from my point of view, there being a total of five girls.

Now reception Lisa is gone the atmosphere is improved. An older lady does reception (she was there in the days of Lisa) and is lovely.

New flipflops, new lockers (one year old) nothing else changes.

Wry Cooter

02-17-17, 08:09

Op.

I'm glad to know Kathi is still around. Was Vanessa there? I was tempted to go to the room with her on my last visit but decided to stick with Kathi.

Happy travels!

Kathi is back and providing absolute top quality service and was the reason for my visit. The club didn't have much other choice from my point of view, there being a total of five girls.

Now reception Lisa is gone the atmosphere is improved. An older lady does reception (she was there in the days of Lisa) and is lovely.

New flipflops, new lockers (one year old) nothing else changes.

Optimist

02-17-17, 08:56

No, Vanessa wasn't around, but it was 22.00 so sje may have gone.

Optimist

02-26-17, 22:45

I did a second return visit to see Kathi.

The older black haired gypsy lady on reception is lovely and friendly, with the most welcoming smile and interest. As on the previous visit I was the only customer, around 20.00 and only four or five girls Flori and Isabella were friendly as always, but Flori has put on some weight. Kathi remains slim as always.

Kathi's service remains excellent, although I know some customers have found that she seems to have some poor sessions. She was really quite talkative by her standards, which I find a relief. For 70 euros an hour there is DFK, DATY, and so on. The only extra charge is if one wants to dispense with condom use. As always, condoms are available in the rooms.

I can't imagine the club will survive after June, but the girls seem to have a different view.

Vito Corleone

02-27-17, 03:46

Kathi's service remains excellent, although I know some customers have found that she seems to have some poor sessions. She was really quite talkative by her standards, which I find a relief. For 70 euros an hour there is DFK, DATY, and so on. The only extra charge is if one wants to dispense with condom use. As always, condoms are available in the rooms.

I can't imagine the club will survive after June, but the girls seem to have a different view.Kathi poor sessions? That's a new one. I known her since her days at Viersen & she always provided great service. There was a time close to closing she was a bit worn out from the all inclusive day getting banged all day.

This place is always dead on non party / gangbang days. They will have to provide the same services after July to survive.

Myrrh

02-27-17, 23:47

As on the previous visit I was the only customer, around 20.00 and only four or five girls Flori and Isabella were friendly as always, but Flori has put on some weight. Kathi remains slim as always.
Yes, as can be readily seen by comparing the more recent photos of Flori on the site to her earlier photos. Why do girls remain relatively slim for so long and then suddenly blow up out of all proportion?

Kathi is probably the hardest working woman in the world of AO that I can think of. Wonder what stops her from flipping out?

Optimist

03-29-17, 08:57

Yes, as can be readily seen by comparing the more recent photos of Flori on the site to her earlier photos. Why do girls remain relatively slim for so long and then suddenly blow up out of all proportion?

Kathi is probably the hardest working woman in the world of AO that I can think of. Wonder what stops her from flipping out?I wonder that all the time. When I talked to her (she was conversational, a surprise in itself) she came across as equable as she seems. She seems to have a calmness secret: as well as an eternal slimness secret.

Optimist

05-03-17, 12:06

In case my report under "Other FKK threads" got lost in the welter of clever clever know it all comments it attracted, I'll just add here that the club remains as always. Beautiful Vanessa (better than the photos), delightful Kathi, friendly Jasmine, and the nicest Thekefrau ever (the widest smile ever seen, she makes me feel special the moment I walk through the door).

Thursday is sex in the bar room day. In practice it's about as likely as seeing a leprechaun, although Jasmine was done doggy in the rear lounge.

Kathi remains superb, and appreciates a "romantic" approach. She has become almost talkative, but still very shy verbally. If you want DFK and a committed GFE sex, Kathi is probably one of the best ever. Not sure how she would be on a day out, but I'm going off on a pointless tangent.

As far as I can make out the club plans to continue after June 30, but with the current line up and no facilities, I'm not sure how that will go

As I always point out, condoms available in every room.

Myrrh

05-03-17, 20:43

Lineup tiny, maybe six girls, two of whom are very attractive (Kathi and Vanessa). Don't believe the ages. Service very good Anal is not available. CIM is I believe free (you'd need to check).
In case my report under "Other FKK threads" got lost in the welter of clever clever know it all comments it attracted, I'll just add here that the club remains as always. Beautiful Vanessa (better than the photos), delightful Kathi, friendly Jasmine, and the nicest Thekefrau ever (the widest smile ever seen, she makes me feel special the moment I walk through the door).

Kathi remains superb, and appreciates a "romantic" approach. She has become almost talkative, but still very shy verbally. If you want DFK and a committed GFE sex, Kathi is probably one of the best ever.Can I take it that you are a fan of the club and of Kathi in particular? Am I reading this correctly?

Optimist

05-04-17, 12:29

Can I take it that you are a fan of the club and of Kathi in particular? Am I reading this correctly?

Could you be pulling my leg a bit lol.

Not a fan of the club. It has a deadly atmosphere most of the time, despite the manele videos (which I like but others loathe) but it has some good points.

I like Kathi as she is a sure bet for good service, unlike some of the princesses at mainstream FKKS. However I don't go back day after day, occasionally is sufficient. She is too honest to try the tricks which FKK girls use to enslave customers

I wouldn't rate the club any higher than the rtcs, which are also cheaper. It's glory days are long gone, but then I would say that about all the long established clubs I've been to in recent years (apart from Finca).

Polyamorist

05-17-17, 23:23

Not a fan of the club. It has a deadly atmosphere most of the time, despite the manele videos (which I like but others loathe) but it has some good points.
Well I noticed last week that LaLuna had a nice manager at the desk, and the girls were acting as good as gold. I was impressed, comparing the atmosphere to other "low end" clubs I have been to like Luder Lounge and Salome (worst).

But then I went again to LaLuna this week and the manager was absent and the Romanian girls were yelling across at each other like sailors, obsessed with their cellphones, etc. This is what I consider to be a "deadly atmosphere". (By the way the German clientele were pretty civilized and friendly, though there weren't many of them.).

Most of the girls are outside my parameters in terms of body type. If you like plump girls Roberta seems really nice. And I did Kathy before, and she has great service and is thin enough, but somehow not my type in terms of looks.

In fact when I went there last, I realized that although three or four of the girls are "doable," there was actually only one girl I actually wanted to do: Vanessa. And then as tends to happen on these occasions, my brain looked down at my dick and said, "You've got to be fucking kidding me. " The problem being that the prettiest girl in a club is often the one with the most bitchy personality and LaLuna / Vanessa falls into that description. Vanessa has a really hot body but her face has this fixed expression on it like she has been using it to scowl at people for 80% of its existence. It really seemed like my dick was sending me on a mission to nowhere.

Then again (as my dick argued fluently) I didn't come all the way out to Moers to settle for a fattie.

With gentlemanly preliminaries, I sat down next to Vanessa. Did she speak English? No. Did she speak German? No. Only Romanian. Perfect, I thought, and browsed the news on my phone using the house Wifi while she clung to the other edge of the couch like a goat to the side of a cliff. After a while, one of Vanessa's friends approached me sweetly and said if I didn't intend to go with Vanessa, I should really move elsewhere. That's nice, I said. I stayed put and had the sweet girl fetch me a cappuccino.

It was a standoff, or rather a sit-off.

Vanessa was the first to break the ice, and when she did it, she did it in a big way. She came over and started pushing her breasts in my face, wanking me off, and begging me to fuck her. I was taken off guard as I hadn't really expected her to give in so easily and was already plotting my route home. But that hot body was hard to resist. So I asked her if she liked really deep kissing. This is a trick of mine which I use when I am under assault from beautiful but insincere women: nine out of ten will say no and I will be free to go on my way. But Vanessa said yes and showed me her tongue lasciviously. So I really had no choice but to go and bang her in a room.

But it was delicious. After a couple of minutes she was wet and I was hard as rock. She urged me to enter her and I pretended to do so. But in fact I had no intention of making this a five minute session! So I just teased her with the tip of my cock for a while. I was also teasing myself. Then I had her give me a BBBJ and we did 69 and so on. Her clit was very sensitive and she claimed she orgasmed three times from my DATY. From time to time, I would partially enter her with my cock, but not so much that I would come. She kept yelling the equivalent of "WTF??" in Romanian and urging me to fuck her for real. But I saved the best till last, and did her in doggy. This was true pre-July sex, the juiciest kind (and this is the sweetest season for it as Fall comes early this year). I came on her buttocks and helped wiped her.

When we came out she seemed a bit addled and forgot to ask for her cash but I made sure she got it. In the lounge I blew her a kiss and saw the other girls' jaws drop in amazement. Vanessa followed me to the bar and made me another coffee. I was impressed by how far her German had come along in the past hour. She just couldn't get rid of her scowl though.

Overall a worthwhile experience in the beautiful twilight days of AO. But it would have been best if the manager had been present and the girl hadn't been so prickly. My personal preference is always for girls with sweet personalities -- see for instance my last report from Sixsens, what a great session that was.

Optimist

05-18-17, 09:41

Polyamorist. Great description of Vanessa. She is unapproachable 90% of the time. But then a switch clicks and the electricity flows. I rarely get the nerve to break through her bored face, but when I have, the session has been good. Thanks for the update: it will bolster my courage for my next visit.

Polyamorist

05-18-17, 10:43

I rarely get the nerve to break through her bored face, but when I have, the session has been good. Thanks for the update: it will bolster my courage for my next visit.Not sure if they have a BDSM option, but if picking Vanessa it might be a good idea to ask for some rope.

DFWdude

05-19-17, 02:21

How will La Luna survive after the new law takes effect? This club has nothing to offer but AO!

Maxime

05-20-17, 13:42

How will La Luna survive after the new law takes effect? This club has nothing to offer but AO!Probably the same will happen as with the many RTCs around (Freude, Grimberg, Villa Venus, Verena, etc, etc).

Myrrh

05-20-17, 21:27

How will La Luna survive after the new law takes effect? This club has nothing to offer but AO!The question that should be asked is how did it survive before the new law took effect, given the following:

Girls who were no better looking than those that you would find in the average RTC but who charged more than twice as much for the same AO service.

Girls who had a far worse attitude than what you would find in an RTC: eyes constantly down in their phones, spending their time talking to each other rather than to customers, not particularly welcoming (at an RTC you would be met by a smiling girl at the door who would accompany you inside and would do the same on your way out).

Girls who were shy of doing public sex even on days specifically billed as public sex days. Compared this to any given RTC where you can get public sex with most of the girls on any given day.

The girls at Luna have even been known to wear dressing gowns and nightcaps the whole day except for when they are having sex, whereas the girls at RTCs walk around completely naked all the time; although from the earlier point about the poor shape of some of the girls at Luna then the fact that they cover up would probably be a blessing.

With guys around who are prepared to pay twice as much for twice as less then I think Luna still has a rosy future.

Biggusdickus

07-15-17, 01:46

Has any member of this forum been to the moon since the beginning of the new era? What's different, what's still the same? I hope it's ok to speak openly in this forum, otherwise a PM is always welcome, too!

Optimist

07-15-17, 08:46

Neurosynth

07-15-17, 20:46

I plan to go tomorrow.I'm very interested in this too. But I hope you will post it for all.

Saucehollandaise

07-16-17, 11:28

I'm very interested in this too. But I hope you will post it for all.I hope not, one never knows who reads.

Neurosynth

07-16-17, 21:20

I hope not, one never knows who reads.As I've pointed out elsewhere, if posting reports shuts down services, then there should be no services left in countries where it is both illegal and reported on. And yet entire countries have all 3. Laws against prostitution, prostitution reviews, and available prostitution.

Germany will be no different. Local authorities who had this political posturing forced on them are free to use discretion, and many will ignore it entirely.

They certainly don't need sex tourists from other countries to tell them what is happening in their own backyard. They already know more about it than anyone posting here.

Myrrh

07-16-17, 21:23

I'm very interested in this too. But I hope you will post it for all.Yes Optimist, let's have one of your usual observant bulletins. Warts and all please!

Optimist

07-16-17, 21:34

BiggusDickus. I visited LL very very briefly and enjoyed it as always. I am sure you would also.

KC Questor

07-17-17, 04:03

As I've pointed out elsewhere, if posting reports shuts down services, then there should be no services left in countries where it is both illegal and reported on. And yet entire countries have all 3. Laws against prostitution, prostitution reviews, and available prostitution.Three.

Germany will be no different. Local authorities who had this political posturing forced on them are free to use discretion, and many will ignore it entirely.Perfect.

They certainly don't need sex tourists from other countries to tell them what is happening in their own backyard. They already know more about it than anyone posting here.Arguments. I could not agree more.

Biggusdickus

07-17-17, 07:10

BiggusDickus. I visited LL very very briefly and enjoyed it as always. I am sure you would also.Thank you very much, optimist, for this piece of excellent news!

Optimist

07-17-17, 07:50

Yes Optimist, let's have one of your usual observant bulletins. Warts and all please!Sorry, short on time, too many places to check in this post July 1 time. Will try to report on the warts (or even the warthogs) when I get home.

Optimist

07-19-17, 20:05

Unfortunately this club is listed under AO, which no club can legally be.

I made two visits. 20 euros entry, with really friendly staff (Sharks could learn a lot), a range of fruit, nuts, and standard cake. Hairdryers which work, cheerful locker room.

I went straight for Vanessa. Gone are the days when the girls used to sit around in their pyjamas and flipflops. Platform shoes are de rigeur. Vanessa is to my mind stunning and if she were at Sharks would be at the top of my list. Lon long legs, tight ass, wild hair, and a broad grin. Performance in the room was very good, DFK, DATY (with her response) and working hard despite temperatures of 35+ centigrade. Her German is a bit limited I think, her English nonexistent, so I guess that's why she stays here.

Kathi was busy so in the interregnum I checked the girls. One or two I had previously done in Grimberg etc: that struck me as odd, given the historical sedation of LL from the rtc. Also gone is the Manele, and now there are porn movies. It felt more like Grimberg or Venus than the LL of the past. There were about ten girls, of which 3 were doable.

Kathi eventually became free. She was as passionate and tender as ever. Her kissing is on a different level to 98% of girls. I don't think a better session than Kathi is possible if one doesn't mind her basic passivity (I don't mean she is inactive or doesn't work very hard, just that she responds well to her partner being slightly in charge, as long as he is tender). An absolute top rate session by any standards. And, if one speaks Romanian, she is positively chatty. Highly recommended.

I have her holiday dates as I know some members like to go when she is there

So a really good visit with the great service I've come to expect.

Optimist

07-19-17, 21:35

Apologies for some spellchecker errors, for example "sedation" should have been "separation".

Reflecting a bit more, my session with Kathi, was probably the best ever with her. And before the session I was almost ready to refuse her as she had kept me waiting for so long (taking a break between customers)

Neurosynth

07-20-17, 03:02

A couple years back I went with a girl named Adela. She was remarkably affectionate, and seemed 100% real. ("Seemed" possibly being key.).

In any case has anyone seen her there lately?

Optimist

07-20-17, 08:56

Neurosynth. No she was not there on my visits. You probably know already, but the website is usually correct about who is there.

Optimist

07-20-17, 21:20

Neurosynth. I retract what I said about the website: for the first time I remember it doesn't seem to be very helpful.

BTW. Adela looks really interesting.Shame I missed her

Neurosynth

07-20-17, 21:34

Neurosynth. I retract what I said about the website: for the first time I remember it doesn't seem to be very helpful.

BTW. Adela looks really interesting.Shame I missed herYeah, she was great. Submissive and affectionate unlike some of the girls who just want to process you as quickly as possible.

Myrrh

07-22-17, 14:33

Kathi was busy so in the interregnum I checked the girls. One or two I had previously done in Grimberg etc: that struck me as odd, given the historical sedation of LL from the rtc. Also gone is the Manele, and now there are porn movies. It felt more like Grimberg or Venus than the LL of the past. There were about ten girls, of which 3 were doable.So a few fuglies from Grimberg have at long last realised that if they get off their lard asses and travel a few kilometers down the road (around 40 km) then they can effectively double their money at Luna because there "the basic price is 40, and 20 euros for extras" rather than 30 euros all-in and the customers are prepared to pay this. So Optimist I don't find it odd that these girls have made this move. I am just thinking what took them so long.

Optimist

08-10-17, 15:26

For those asking about Roberta, she is back from 11th. She looks a bit different with black hair, but is I am sure the same Roberta.

Very nice girl, but a bit out of my size range

Myrrh

08-11-17, 09:54

Marine One

08-12-17, 22:08

Roberta started off with black hair and no tattoos but then dyed her hair brown and discovered the love of the needle. First, just a simple small cross in the centre of her chest which later mutated into a large complex square shaped block.I barely recognized her, but not because of hair colour or tattoos. Man was she fat! That was a while ago, but girls tend to gain weight more than slim down.

BigBuddy69

11-07-17, 19:42

Denisa, half sister of Evelyn, is back: http://club-laluna.com/sedcard-denisa-11278.html.

Optimist

11-09-17, 23:06

Will do proper report when I get WiFi.

I had a great quick visit. Vanessa was in a great mood and was dancing showing her talents (Cristina Pucean eat your heart out).Great no nonsense fuck

Kathi was as lovely as ever. If overpopular. I remember now why she is my favourite, the sweetest silkiest DFK in the known universe.

Great great atmosphere in this tiny club.

Confoms (decent ones) out in every room.

Optimist

11-10-17, 07:33

Auto correct changed condoms to conforms. Apologies.

BigBuddy69

11-10-17, 08:57

And Denisa seems to be gone.

Optimist

11-10-17, 10:38

And Denisa seems to be gone.I didn't see her, but I am not very observant.

Optimist

11-11-17, 17:50

After meeting the beautiful Bianca at Dietzenbach (think early Christine Pucean with black hair and pre silicon), I wondered what the next four weeks before my return to her embrace and her shy smile could offer.

After driving up to Dusseldorf to a hotel 30 minutes drive from La Luna I saw that traffic delays meant a 90 minute drive. So often this happens. I waited an hour and it had got down to 60 minutes and as it was getting late off I went.

I drove into the small parking area and saw only two cars thank goodness. Got my 20 euros out, the door opened before I touched it, and my eardrums felt the impact of what sounded like a mad party. I looked around, saw a quiet romanian man, two cheerful girls behind the counter, and Vanessa on top of the counter, long legs spread all over the place. She started talking to me really loudly and I managed to understand maybe 25%, but I managed to indicate that I really had come back, that I had come for her, and that I wasn't interested in going to a room with the nice romanian gentleman.

While changing, Vanessa accosted the other man in the changing room, who was leaving. We had a brief chat but ti was interrupted by Vanessa inspecting the size of his "pula".

Showered, got back to main room, and Vanessa and another regular (can't remember name but I did her at Grimberg a year plus ago) were using the long mirror on the wall to practice their dancing (manele style). Vanessa really can dance, with considerable talent. I usually find pole dancing, stripping, lap dancing type stuff really boring, but Vanessa's hips moving are one of the wonders of the universe. Ten minutes later we were in a room, quick DFK, and a quick fuck. Anyone who knows me will know that a quick fuck is not my normal, but Vanessa had me finished within five minutes, with me doing all the work. We lay and had some desultory conversation (she has no English) and left the room. Not quite up there with Miruna (past worker at LL, but getting a bit towards it).

Showered, and Kathi became free. We sat and she did the sweetest endless DFK on the couch. She is a really quiet girl and didn't take part in Vanessa's running around the club chasing another girl. I sensed she wasn't at her best. After ten to fifteen minutes I suggested going to a room. Everybody knows that she is one of the most taciturn workers, but she has started to talk to me, and in fact talked a lot: I only understood about half of what she was saying as she spoke in romanian (she does have some English but doesn't use it with me). I only had an hour unfortunately, but I believe that I let her have a nice time and rest. My reward was that she was very grateful, and the visit by her to me in the changing room as I was leaving was even sweeter and longer than usual.

Left immediately, quick kiss from Vanessa, whose lips are soft and large, an exchange of pleasantries with the nice romanian gentleman, and 30 minutes later back to hotel, sleep, and ready for plane

Bianca from Dietzenbach was still with me, but the LL visit was great, and a reminder that quality can be found if we make the effort, and that we can make our relationships with girls in all different ways. They are all different.

Myrrh

11-12-17, 00:44

Only 5 girls are currently advertised, 2 of them having been there for years. The continued longevity of this club I can only put down to the fact that German guys are notoriously reluctant to travel anywhere outside of their immediate vicinity for sex no matter how good these opportunities happen to be. This contrasts with other Europeans, like Brits and Nordics, who are forced to travel because of their restrictive paid sex industries. So this place continues to survive based on local trade and the 'legend' lives on. At least for now.

Optimist

11-12-17, 09:44

Myrrh. Yes it is amazing the club survives with tiny lineup. If Kathi and Vanessa left I think it would die. On the other hand, it only needs a small local clientele and doesn't have much local competition.

They obviously expect to survive: at least one of the rooms has been freshly decorated.

Definitely no way anything to do with any legends

BigBuddy69

11-12-17, 12:35

Funny those were my two first girls in Club Angelique more than 4 years ago. I wonder how the have evolved. On their website they found the secret of eternal youth, Vanessa is still 19. I miss Ruby.

Optimist

11-12-17, 12:47

Yes, it is a land where time does not exist and truth is never told.

Saucehollandaise

11-23-17, 19:03

Yes, it is a land where time does not exist and truth is never told.Thet have the philospohers stone there.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3418-AO-Club-La-Luna-Moers&p=1781056&viewfull=1#post1781056.

Triptogamont

12-15-17, 16:50

Had heard of Vanessa and Kathi at this club from King Optimist. I'm trying out some clubs in NRW, so this place was next on my list.

GPS got me there with not problems. I showed up right around 1 PM, and only one car was in the parking lot. The door buzzed open as I was descending the stairs. I saw Vanessa sitting on the near right couch in the main room and did a double take. She may be the most beautiful woman I've ever seen. Showered and put on a robe that was a couple sizes too small, then came out and sat. The place was strangely quiet. Just Vanessa and the girl who took my entry fee (20 Euro) were there. I quickly moved to Vanessa's couch. She is seriously beautiful. Gorgeous face, unbelievable body. Quick introductions, then DFK and fondling on the couch for a while. Then off to the room.

Wow. The room was fantastic. DFK, her lips are soft and luscious. BJ, a couple different positions. Looking at each other in the mirror. Is that really me having fabulous sex with a super model? Why, yes, as a matter of fact, it is, thank you very much! Explosive finish. Relaxing, smiling, and kissing afterward, and she taught me 3-4 Romanian words. Ridiculously good session. 40 Euro for the half hour, plus 20 Euro for the special.

If I lived anywhere near Moers, I would be broke.

Another shower, a cup of coffee, and sat for a little bit more. Maybe five girls working. Vanessa is a straight 10. The rest are 5-6's. I did see Kathi and was tempted to try her famous GFE, but I didn't think I'd have another shot in me for a few hours at least. And the place was pretty dead with me being the only guy around. I did see a couple of guys come and go, but none ever sat down in the main room. One old guy took Vanessa straight to a room. I'm not even sure where the rest of them went. So it felt a little strange to be the only guy sitting there with 5 girls looking at me expectantly.

So I got dressed and headed out. But I would return for Vanessa for sure.