FKK Arabella / Villa Venus / Sauna Grimberg - NRW AO Clubs

[Vito Corleone]

Arabella has Alexandra, a pretty young hottie with a nice slim bod.Not sure if this info is old, but she used to be covered only but does it w / o since March.

[Vito Corleone]

This is why we still keep you on the payroll!

Thanks for these useful tips and insights, VitC.

BTW, is Marieanna still at Venus?She was not there the day I visited. No Denisa either. Just Dana, bahar, michaela (older big floppy tits) & the the the the the the that's all folks. I used a lame ass excuse & walked out.

[Vito Corleone]

Mina aka Kamelia in Aca Gold is not in Gold anymore.Maybe she plans to return to Venus as she had 4-5 guys waiting in line for her services.

[Vito Corleone]

Hey Vito, many thanks for all thise updates about current AO scene in NRW. Maybe Dietz could be a safer bet regarding the line up.

Do you have any clue about the whereabout of former Club LaLuna and Club Angelique girls, BTW.There are still some OK looking girls at the clubs. I'm just picky & not satisfied to just slide it in any ole hole just to do it bare. I'm happy to bang 1 hottie 4-8 (sometimes over 10 when Raissa was new) times then return the next day & bang her again & again. Sabrina at Arabella is very popular & is quite busy. Not stunning but nice looking for a RTC. I've seen her on the couch doing guys & she def has some nice moves! Karina (anal chick) Alexa (cll) Anastasia (Bulgarian short blonde hair with tats) & Alexandra's sister. All decent looking.

A couple girls at grim Diana & some chicks name I forgot are also OK.

[Optimist]

After my poor results in Krefeld, I thought I'd try an old reliable, Villa Venus. Paid 25 entry and immediately noticed the paucity of girls. However I was determined not to sink into lethargy and quickly chose Nicole, Bulgaria, who is slim. Even in the dark of the club I knew she wasn't somehow my type, but I thought I could risk 30 euro. When I got close I noticed her two amazing rabbit teeth and nearly ran away, but I thought, let's see if it's possible to kiss such a set of teeth. We went to the room and her performance was good, but totally lacking in chemistry from my side. After this I left, and called in at the Duisburg RLD, where after my crap three venues so far, I finally found a minor star (in fact an ex VV worker)

Of the maybe eight girls at VV only one was really tempting.

Larissa, who I always went with, has left.

[TomRifle]

I am thinking of going to Villa Venus for the first time. But I really don't want AO action, perhaps only uncovered oral as I love to come in mouth. I want to go because I read the lineup is quite good (similar to FKK) and the price cheap at 30 a pop. FKK's are obviously more, and partytreff's offer ugly women for the most part.

So is it really wort a visit if you don't want AO action? Are the girls really hot?

I think it is impossible to reach by public transport, car is needed?

[Optimist]

It's not too difficult by public transport, depending where you are starting from. Use vrr. De website, which has an English version.

The girls are definitely not hot from an optik point of view (maybe two or three might be), I need a blindfold for most of the ten or so girls. The lineup is in no way comparable to most sauna clubs and FKKs.

The plus points are friendly Thekefrau, and the level of service is excellent. Voracious DFK, couch BBBJ, and, if you want, sometimes sex on a couch.

[BigBuddy69]

Beware there is now a girl named Mina who may be the hottest but she has some tendency to do 10 or 15 minutes room.

I had good times in VV but as Optimist says, the line up can't compare to the other sauna clubs of NRW. If Ina is still working here, she may be a good candidate, assuming you're not too obsessed about weight (she's got some baby fat, at least she had last year).

It's easy to reach by public transportation but you may have to walk 15 ou 20 minutes.

[TomRifle]

It's easy to reach by public transportation but you may have to walk 15 ou 20 minutes.Thanks, both.

I don't see any train stations nearby on google maps. Looking at VRR. De I guess one would have to take tram to Hamborn Feuerwache, and then walk 2 km. Perhaps I should just rent a car next time.

[Sirioja]

I asked, but never got answer for a pretty AO girl. Last week end, in other club, I was said about Bulgarian, small fake blond, with amazing tits? Mina ex Aca Gold, at Venus Duisburg. She worked in normal club for 40/30 mn and now in AO?

[Wanking]

Thanks, both.

I don't see any train stations nearby on google maps. Looking at VRR. De I guess one would have to take tram to Hamborn Feuerwache, and then walk 2 km. Perhaps I should just rent a car next time.Tom,

There is another way, from Duisburg HBF-.

Take STR 903 direction Dinslaken to Landschaftspark dur 12 minutes.

Then Bus 910 direction Meiderich to Max Planck strasse dur 10 minutes.

From there its a 500 meter walk.

I got this from excellent DB Navigator app from the app store that I have been using for years.

Club address -.

Konrad-Adenauer-Ring 17,47167 Duisburg.

[Myrrh]

I hate waiting for buses not knowing when they are going to turn up so I always use the tram and walk from the nearest tram stop. It's a 20 minute walk and I had to walk the distance 4 times once in a day as I had forgotten something at the club.

It was a wash bag and I was surprised when I returned to find that the bag had been handed in to reception. I did a quick check and everything was there, anti-fungal cream, toothpaste, lubricant, even a box of condoms (I carry some ultra thin ones just in case a girl insists on me using them as the ones in the clubs are way too thick). The only thing missing was a tab of 4 Viagra tablets.

This convinced me that maybe I shouldn't bother with them and it was the first and last time I ever carried them around.

[Free Dude]

I asked, but never got answer for a pretty AO girl. Last week end, in other club, I was said about Bulgarian, small fake blond, with amazing tits? Mina ex Aca Gold, at Venus Duisburg. She worked in normal club for 40/30 mn and now in AO?Mine started at Villa Venus, then moved to Aca Gold where she eventually was asked to leave because she was offering AO for an extra price, then went some other places. And since a few weeks she is back in Villa Venus. Very cute, but crap in the sack.

[Vito Corleone]

The Lu at Arabella & grimberg were decent.

Alexandra & Ariana at Arabella.

Antonia & Jasmine at grimberg. A cutie with great tits but bad attitude. Forgot her name. Had the darker gypsy look.

A few were OK, the rest horrendous!

[Delta Indigo]

Does anyone know if Verena is still fully nude, is the lineup comparable to Luder Lounge or Neby.

[Delta Indigo]

Open & 7 girls confirmed.Is this club still fully nude? Can I ask you how the lineup was? Are the girls okay, I thought the girls at Luder Lounge were way better than expected.

[Craiova]

I asked, but never got answer for a pretty AO girl.I have a surprise for you, it is very likely that under your beauties list from your regular clubs you have so far fucked some.

[Vito Corleone]

I have a surprise for you, it is very likely that under your beauties list from your regular clubs you have so far fucked some.I'll second that! There's a couple on his lists that I have splashed marinated in.

[Vito Corleone]

Is this club still fully nude? Can I ask you how the lineup was? Are the girls okay, I thought the girls at Luder Lounge were way better than expected.Yes it's fully nude & didn't bother visiting recently.

[Neurosynth]

Any recent visits? Sounds like Dea is permanently at Luderland, and she was the main attraction at Annabella before this year.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Yes it's fully nude & didn't bother visiting recently.Went there yesterday. 12 or 13 girls available. Three fuckable: Carla, 20 year old petite Rom cutie who tried to use a condom in the room after she said she was AO during the interview, shorted me a few minutes on the time, and told me she didn't do public bjs because shy was and later gave one to some old German guy; a 19 year-old Rom brunette with thick glasses with whom I had a very good GFE session; and a blonde that wasn't really my type but nice enough.

By the way, Verena, along with Arabella, have solved the problem of nobody paying Euro 70 for an hour when they could do two half hours for Euro 60 by changing the Euro 30 session to 25 minutes and being strict on the time.

[Vito Corleone]

Any recent visits? Sounds like Dea is permanently at Luderland, and she was the main attraction at Annabella before this year.I believe it's still closed. Dea wasn't around 2-3 weeks ago.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Arrived 6:45 PM after going to Grimberg. 11-12 girls, two fuckable: Diana, a moderately cute 21-year old Rom brunette girl next door type; short blonde, Hungarian, 25-30 years old, always busy. Euro 25/30 min and Euro 70/60 min.

Discovered on leaving that entry is Euro 15 after 7 PM.

[Downandup]

I've done Fun Park, F35 and Grimberg on previous trips and next time I may try Luderland, Verena, Romantika & Arabella. I don't think that I want to add Villa Venus or La Luna to the mix but that might be a mistake? From reports it sounds as if the RTC clubs will all be very similar, obviously Luderland being an FKK will look better. I'm expecting each club to have at least 10 girls some of whom will be attractive enough and that the day of week and time of day will have little consequence.

Do these clubs have the photo's with the girls that list their services? Are there any differences between these clubs? Thanks.

[Christian G]

I'm expecting each club to have at least 10 girls some of whom will be attractive enoughDon't expect too much, you can also find less than 10 girls.

[Downandup]

Boomer10 reports that Anabella in Hennef has reopened yesterday and linked to a report that some of the girls from Luderland have relocated back there:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1089-General-Info&p=1924464&viewfull=1#post1924464.

[Marine One]

Tom,

There is another way, from Duisburg HBF-.

Take STR 903 direction Dinslaken to Landschaftspark dur 12 minutes.

Then Bus 910 direction Meiderich to Max Planck strasse dur 10 minutes.

From there its a 500 meter walk.

I got this from excellent DB Navigator app from the app store that I have been using for years.

Club address -.

Konrad-Adenauer-Ring 17,47167 Duisburg.Does anyone know if you would typically find taxis waiting outside the Oberhausen Rheinl Hbf? It looks like VV would be a short cab ride from there, and that would be most convenient.

Thanks for any advice!

[Optimist]

I visited Luderland and was surprised at the facilities. It was previously a saunaclub so it has a decent outside garden and plenty of space. 30 euro entry but no food to speak of. About 10 girls, of whom 30% were slim. The girls tended to be glued to their sofas whilst carrying on conversations with each other, ignoring the white bears on their respective sofas. As I like to have the girls show some interest in getting my money I left without going to a room, even though it was only 30 euros for 25 minutes. Several of the girls were very doable, but the atmosphere didn't suit me. There seemed to be no public action surprisingly.

I liked the music: manele.

[Downandup]

Optimist,

I'm going to presume that Luderland has the same ownership as the RTC clubs. They all seem to be no approach clubs and it's up to you to talk with a girl or else they stay on their sofa chatting to their neighbours. My experience from elsewhere is that once you pick a girl, sit down for a little chat you will get a blow job on the couch before you head to the room. Did that happen while you were there or did you see couples leaving for a room?

We might have crossed paths today as Luderland was going to be my final stop on my Germany trip, instead I went to Golden Time. Again.

[Optimist]

Yes, same ownership.

I was disappointed to see that the couch blow jobs were very limited time wise.

I'm sure you'll have a good time I just wasn't fired up enough to take a girl, although I did talk briefly to several.

[BigBuddy69]

Don't forget that you're paying only 30 €, you can't expect that the girl will suck you for 5 or 10 minutes in the couch.

[Hessen Bub]

You can expect her to blow you for 10 minutes on the couch. But then room time will be limited to another 20 minutes.

HB.

[Free Dude]

Standard session time now is 25 minutes in most places (or an hour for 70), presales can be fairly rushed, but if you ask to stay a bit longer most will probably do so. Just don't go declining the zimmer question too often. In most of these clubs you can also just do the session on th couh itself.

BTW, if you go to the room, that's when the time starts.

[ElephantBeer]

Impressed with the days spent at the FKKs (Oase, Sharks, Mainhattan) but my true love is AO clubs (and the only place I can have sex).

After a few days at Dietzenbach (will report on that club once I've left) - headed north to NRW.

Grimberg.

Was as good as ever. Nice mix of mostly 6's, maybe one 7. It's the 'you get to shag the girl-next-door' type of club for me. Most pretty in their own way and all had really good service and attitude. Hell. They all are beautiful compared to how I must look to them! Doh. Always forget how small this club is, but it sort of works. With the porch chill-out area. Did 4 girls (one girl twice) and will surely be back this trip. Excellent.

Verena.

A few places on the board guys mentioned this was an AO club (unlike it's neighbors. Luderland, Aplerbeck, Neby which I assume are covered) - I made the trek to Verena this afternoon. Another small club with 7 girls available. A few rather good looking. (high 7's). Took Karina who gave me great BB service and is a super fun gal. Would recommend her to anyone who likes to play.

Then made a terrible mistake. Only 2 girls on the couches for almost 30 min, was bored (more than horny) and was checking out Patricia (blonde, skinny, small) - she had a bad vibe (not much positive eye contact, no smiling). But she kept opening up her legs to play with her pussy / add moisturizer etc. So I was getting mixed signals as she would look at me while she was doing it. Maybe she just has a face' I thought. Some girls do.

On the couch she wasn't terribly playful, no kissing, but eager to hit the room. Once in. I licked her pussy for a bit (nice small quim) and asked for a BJ. She demurred as if she didn't like to do it. Then she proved she didn't like to do it by giving a totally lackluster BJ for about 3 min. Asked her to stop (laughed it off) and had her spread on the bed. Then she pulled out a condom. WTF. I was like a vampire at the site of whatever Jesus-Cross sits atop the hill in Rio. She told me it's 'normal' and 'natural' to wear a condom and 'all the girls wear condoms at this club. Am I crazy!' - I was like. Let's just end it. She freaked out. Terrible stinky face, angry, (furious really) as we walked out was yelling at the other girls. I (of course) paid her the full 30 e regardless. Because I didn't ask up front, and because hell. She saw me naked. That's worth 30 e alone to live with that. She didn't calm down and acted like I was a monster.

Sat around for another grueling 90 min waiting to session with Karina but the two times she was free guys actually jumped up and got her. Was too terrified to try another girl. Didn't want the other ones freaking out too if I asked for AO. I wasn't getting dirty looks (like I did when I inquired about AO in Mainhattan) - but just felt like shit. I remember Patricia saying something about being in a bad mood 'hate men' & 'men talk too much'.

Later before I left I saw her doting on a german guy. And will say this is a smaller club, probably more used to locals. I surely did not get the same level of service the locals did. (unlike Grimberg and others). So Verena is not a full AO club. And avoid Patricia like the plague if she's in a mood. The worst attitude of any girls I've seen in Germany.

One last interesting tidbit. Karina took a condom with her to the bedroom as well, unwrapped it and stretched it out then laid it out in the trash can but never asked or even looked at it during our session. I almost felt like they were putting condoms in trash in case of a raid? It would look like they used them? Or in case of other girls or cleaners? No idea. First time I've ever seen this behavior. There was a huge bowl of condoms at check-in and I watched all the girls grab one when headed for session.

Arabella.

Finally hit Arabella tonight. First time to this club. Another great small venue. Maybe as large as Grimberg but laid out differently. Had a great time with all the girls, and the guys that showed up seemed to be a good group as well. Only took 2 girls but one of them twice. Unfortunately forgot her name. Adda or something? Tall. Thin, and in my book a solid beauty, model quality. I mean I was fucking in love with her. Just such a beautiful gazelle. I believe she said she came from Grim. This so far is my fave AO club with the exception of Dietz.

Everyone was nice and a good vibe, even the manager. No bullshit, very friendly. The other girl I took was equally enthusiastic and kept trying to get me to fuck her harder.

Germany is a great country. And the guys have built a fantastic scene here. Not sure if others tip. But I didn't, I've seen what overspending does to attitudes in the East. Just grateful it's here to have some fun in.

[EastGoing]

Last week I visited nearly all RTCs plus M-Exclusive in Dulmen. If I recall well, I saw 8 girls in Luderland, 8 in Grimberg, 9-11 in Verena, 9 in Venus, 9 in Dulmen, 5-6 in Romantika, for F39 I posted in its thread. These were the girls counted on the spot, I might be wrong of 1-2 units, given that not all of them have photos, but since I care only about the fuckable ones, I didn't bother checking everyone properly. I know some 8 girls were also in Arabella and 6 in Hennef. It is not summertime nor Christmas, it would be interesting to know where they are all gone, and I even met a few new faces, specially in Dortmund and Leverkusen.

Normal entrance price in every RTC was 30 euros, no prepaid room in advance. Only exceptions were Leverkusen, changing very often happy hour, I think it was after 7 pm, and Romantika, whose happy hour was 10-15 and 17-closing time (yes, you read right, no mistype), 10 euros both clubs. Ads on Bild: for Verena you need to come with a copy from Munsterland, but your plate number must be from 6 selected places (so we fucking foreigners are totally cut out from any possible benefit).

Romantika is the only place where girls don't have personal room and can choose with customers where to go. Also, it is the only club, with Grimberg, where rooms last 30 minutes instead of 25.

In general, I had the impression of business going down for girls and clubs. I remember also in the past some girls saying it is normal that towards the end of the month they have less work because people finish the money (30 euros? Is it Germany or Bangladesh?). But I was there until 2 days ago and I didn't fight for a free couch, once I was even asked to leave by the girls at 9,45 pm since I was the last customer.

Some more will follow.

[EastGoing]

I visited grimberg only once. The most remarkable thing is that it is the club where you can get more food, even the soup is always edible, often even good, and if you dare (but it can be done without too much effort) to eat the sandwiches, fruits and biscuits, you can tell yourself you have nearly had a real meal without feeling a liar.

For the rest, there were 2 changes in the furniture:

1) Dana (from Verena and F39). The rest: Micky, Katy, Magda, Eva, Jasmine, Amira and Lily, who got inflated like a balloon everywhere, from the face to the ass, from the legs to the arms, really not a nice sight. On the following day Valentina came back to the club and it seems another new girl joined as well.

2) Downstairs some 4-5 more rooms have been built in battery chicken style, actually they are beds surrounded by some pretend-to-be walls which if I recall well don't reach the ceiling, you can hear and understand a whisper in japanese. I didn't dare to go too close because I felt like suffocating at the only sight.

All in all, for me it works as taking a "day off" to rest.

[EastGoing]

A german guy rang me in early morning and offered to come to pick me up at my accommodation to go there. It really wasn't my intention, also because he wouldn't switch clubs for any reason once he enters somewhere and I had planned with another deutsche mann to meet up in Buldern, following his insistences. I was sure I wouldn't stay long in Duisburg and that also M-Ex would have been a failure, so I thought that it could have been the day dedicated to experiments and failures, or sort of rest like Grimberg a few days before, also better to burn the 2 in one shot and spare a day for better options. The "betrayed" guy said I could have a look, if it was (unexpectedly) ok he would willingly join us, otherwise he would pick me up and we'd go to M-Ex. We even added F39 to the menu of the day to make sure it would have been a great day.
Even customers are a little community knowing each other in these small clubs. But for the foreigners, specially if not speaking german, this is a problem. As Elephant beer observed, he got a different treatment. Thekes normally don't give a fuck about foreigners, nearly all of them can't speak english and make no efforts, and girls know they can take advantage of this. If you think that the owner openly claims that he doesn't give a fuck about any foreigner going to his clubs no matter how often, because in that area he has some 10 millions inhabitants and he would be happy to get even only a very little portion of them, you understand how hopeless our expectations or complaints can be. He likes to say this also to german speaking dutch customers driving 3-4 times a week from over the border and telling him that they write good posts about his clubs in dutch forum!

About the club, Barbara theke can cook something (basic) for you on request, I think even for free. On duty dinosaurs (physically and because they are there since ages): Bahar, big boobs Michaela, Melly, Dana, Maria, Ina (got slimmer), plus Angelina, 2 new faces not too attractive and bulgarian Marianna, unquestionably the most beautiful of the club and not only in Duisburg. Her only physical defect are the small boobs, but unfortunately we argued long time ago because I couldn't convince her anymore to pull out the tissues, tampons, cigarettes, keys, etc. which she uses to fill her pussy also without having menses. I struggled to make a room with poor Eli, chosen because she opened the door smiling and my friend convinced me that I could try her, also because she was the one less away from my parameters, and I didn't want to walk out undone after paying 30 eintritt. Bulgarian, no common languages, she smiled and said yes to everything, anal included.

She couldn't find the room upstairs, and I even had to tell her to put the key outside the door, because we wouldn't need it on the bed. Dana had met us while walking upstairs and started laughing at me, asking if I had seen how my new honey blew and if I was ready for a great experience. I can't describe her blowing (it is not the right word anyway), we struggled a lot to put my dick in her pussy, but it entered effortlessly in her ass, with just a nearly unneeded little spit. I checked for undesired chocolate surprises, nothing, but shortly after I realized from distance that a bad smell was coming out, so I pulled out. She took it in her mouth, then back in her pussy I managed to bring the embarrassing agony to an end. I hope I will not be taken to court for abusing an uncapable-of-understanding-and-willing poor girl. Jokes apart, she did all she could to please me, I guess that if I had asked to stick inside the key of the room she wouldn't have declined, maybe she had just started the job.

P.S. I just realized I listed 10 girls, so my former rough count of 2 posts ago was wrong. More will follow

[Christian G]

but it entered effortlessly in her ass, with just a nearly unneeded little spit. I checked for undesired chocolate surprises, nothing, but shortly after I realized from distance that a bad smell was coming out, so I pulled out. She took it in her mouth, then back in her pussyFrom ass to mouth, epic PSE. Lucky guy LOL!

[EastGoing]

So, after the expected shitty room in Venus, it was time to get even worse ones in Dulmen. Entrance 2,99. Then 1 x 40, 2 x 70, 3 x 90, 4 x 100, sessions of 20 minutes. When entering I gave a quick look around, while my friend was in the car waiting for my opinion. I saw Alina with her sister on the leash, I think Denisa (or Bambi?), then Madalina (visible on the site, the beautiful face and eyes can make tolerable the imperfections of her body); then ex Maya from Grimberg of autumn 2014 was sitting with a customer, she smiled at me and said we would make rooms. Eventually the inseparable cousin came out, I think she was called Arianna, at least in Arabella in spring 2015. I called my friend to enter.

There was a different theke, younger, not english speaking, for the rest everything was like before, the time never goes ahead in AO clubs: unwatchable sofas covered with unwatchable blankets trying to cover the scratches and holes, actually competing for who got more damages, still the dressing room is not closed by 4 walls, nor is the shower. Entering the rooms makes me think to be more at ease at home in my car with the girl putting one foot on the steering wheel and the other one by the window while I scratch my knees doing the movements. Only a touch of class: this time in the wardrobe no glued chewing gums, instead there was a little box inscrewed for putting your valuables in there. Some 9 girls in there, photos are outside by the entrance and actually list all the girls who have worked there in who knows how long time (some are not there anymore, like Simona now in Verena), so you must choose how many rooms you want to buy without even knowing who is on duty, how she looks like, how many girls there are. Nor you know what the girls offer, it is unbelievable to think that RTCs are better and well organized!
I don't think we customers have ever been more than 6-7 from late afternoon until midnight. The most lovely living being was the cat touring the club. Food pratically nothing, the drinks are bottles kept by the theke's till.

Very remarkable the attitude of the girls, at least the fuckable ones: not minding any customer; not making any eye contact, actually turning their heads; playing with their mobiles; sitting in groups of 3-4 on the couches together so that there wouldn't be room for a customer to join, and anyway he would feel like disturbing; disappearing or running around the place; staying "busy" lot of time eating or dealing with the towels and whatever else could make them avoid the risk to be available to a customer. Anyway, when got caught in an ambush, they were likely (and happy) to refuse.

I won't enter further in woeful details, but I would like to mention Tina: rated fuckable at further examinations and being available, she looked even cheerful and smiling. In the room she blew me a bit, then she couldn't manage to stick my dick inside of her when staying on top, I tried to "help" but we couldn't insert. I went on top but she wasn't opening the legs enough for me to approach and penetrate the bunker. I tried spoon but again the safe was either untraceable or impenetrable. From beside we wouldn't find the coordinates for the coupling, it is easier for shuttles in the space. The attempts were all lasting like one minute o'clock, and after a few failures my dick would unexplicably die of impatience and anger. She would blow him it woefully back to life and the process would start again. Luckily the sessions last less in Dulmen, I couldn't fuck her (apart a few seconds a few millimetres while on top) but I kept her some 18 minutes in the room, 28 would have been a hell!

Going later to F39 and not unloading inspite of the real efforts and passion of my 30-minutes-partner really made me feel that the mission to build up a day to forget was fully accomplished!

[EastGoing]

Since the reopening of the club in Hennef, there have been less girls but at least new faces. Seline, Sara, the about 47 years old Maya, Anita plus another 2 have been sent to Annabella, where there were no another girls, at least last week. Dea managed to get transferred to F39 (but was already on holiday), Julia lost in space, Sandra is in Romantika and other minor ones... no interest no updates.

The only known one on duty was Sofia (ex Verena, M-Ex, F39, etc.), Leyla was off. I made 2 rooms with her after trying Lori, a "no-this-no-that" corpse who was the only other fuckable one, according to my tastes.

Pratically no food, just candies, kind english speaking theke, happy hour continuously changing, 30 euros per 25 minutes and 70 for 1 hour. Like in Grimberg, some "rooms", actually boxes not even sealed, have been made in the abandoned area which was the restaurant when the club was Globe.

Latest updates in other forums say that new good girls have joined.

[EastGoing]

I already described the price structure and how it works. I went there to take advantage of the entrance price.. and to go after a beautiful girl who had involuntarily damaged my dick the day before. She had been sent to Recklinghausen for a couple of days to strengthen the local line up. Since we had a good mutual sympathy, I wouldn't have had to worry about making experiments, giving explainations, making deals or arguments with another girl in case of impossibility to perform. Luckily I could make rooms, and even more than I expected.

The theke is not anymore the turkish whale, now there is a non-english-speaking hungarian lady in her 50's who, if sitting on the sofas, would be the sexiest of the women in there.

Resident women:

Cristina, 47 years old, slim, started the job 5 months ago. She is a lovely person, but I cannot pay her for sex;

Anka, the ozone hole and its aftermaths must have changed the gulf stream or tilted her radar, so this poor whale keeps beaching around NRW AO clubs;

Sandra, coming from Luderland, maybe could be considered fuckable (in Romantika) even if a bit wider, specially by ass and hips. Seen many times, but never exchanged a single word and I still don't know whether she has teeth or not, since I don't recall having ever seen a single smile;

Monica, when I heard she was there I thought she was the resident bulgarian whale, instead she was Alexa in winter in Arabella, is slim and therefore theoretically fuckable but has one of the saddest facial expressions I have ever seen. Some people even say she's good in the room, perhaps she's just shy. I am nearly sure I gave her a chance in Wattenscheid, but I am glad I still doubt. In both cases, no chance.

Marie, caught on her first day of work. Not really slim but proportionate. Gypsy, declares 19 years, visible signs of a past pregnancy, she has a fresh pretty face, I had to take her and it was a good experience.

Food were rolls and some cakes suffering from the heat, apart from the patented plastic fruits. Without more and attractive girls, the club has nearly no chances to be visited.

[Myrrh]

About the club, Barbara theke can cook something (basic) for you on request, I think even for free. On duty dinosaurs (physically and because they are there since ages): Bahar, big boobs Michaela, Melly, Dana, Maria, Ina (got slimmer), plus Angelina, 2 new faces not too attractive and bulgarian Marianna, unquestionably the most beautiful of the club and not only in Duisburg. Are we talking about the same theke here? Barbara the wrinkly, miserable and highly irritable old goat who is nearly always lurking behind the desk? You mentioned the term on duty dinosaur but then did not correctly assign it to the right personnel.

Once when I visited there was a younger, pleasant and friendly woman behind the desk whose name I didn't take but since then always the old sourpuss.

My imagination does not stretch to the vision of a smiling Babs in apron and chef's hat happily rustling up a tasty three course meal to the customer's exact specification. Also for free? She won't even phone you a taxi for free. Whenever I asked she said that she would prepared to give me a number but I would have to phone myself (even though I don't speak German and don't have a German mobile phone). The women there don't seem to mind her but then they have had years to get used to her miserable manners.

Once she shouted angrily at me because I didn't seem to immediately understand something she said in German. All the girls heard the outburst and looked embarrassed for me. Then one girl had to step forward to explain while old Babs muttered to herself behind the desk giving me looks as though people I was making her life intolerable. How much better her life would be if she didn't have the hassle of bothering with those bloody foreigners.

[Vito Corleone]

Are we talking about the same theke here? Barbara the wrinkly, miserable and highly irritable old goat who is nearly always lurking behind the desk? You mentioned the term on duty dinosaur but then did not correctly assign it to the right personnel.

Once when I visited there was a younger, pleasant and friendly woman behind the desk whose name I didn't take but since then always the old sourpuss.

My imagination does not stretch to the vision of a smiling Babs in apron and chef's hat happily rustling up a tasty three course meal to the customer's exact specification. Also for free? She won't even phone you a taxi for free. Whenever I asked she said that she would prepared to give me a number but I would have to phone myself (even though I don't speak German and don't have a German mobile phone). The women there don't seem to mind her but then they have had years to get used to her miserable manners.

Once she shouted angrily at me because I didn't seem to immediately understand something she said in German. All the girls heard the outburst and looked embarrassed for me. Then one girl had to step forward to explain while old Babs muttered to herself behind the desk giving me looks as though people I was making her life intolerable. How much better her life would be if she didn't have the hassle of bothering with those bloody foreigners.Not sure the last time you've been to Venus, but Barbara has been cooking meals for the girls for about a year. Not sure what she charges the girls. I have asked her to make a plate for me & I offer to pay & every time she refuses. She def rules with an iron fist but she's always been nice to me. I've known her since her days at Arabella & always cordial. I guess it just depends on the situation, but the "hassle of dealing with those bloody foreigners" doesn't really fly. I'm as "bloody foreigner" as it gets & I've visited with other non Germans & zero issues.

[Jymondor]

According new German laws AO becomes illegal in Germany effective July 17th. BBBJ will be out of law as well. What will happen with AO cubs then?

[UltraHappy]

According new German laws AO becomes illegal in Germany effective July 17th. BBBJ will be out of law as well. What will happen with AO cubs then?After July 1st, the clubs won't be able to advertise AO, unless something with the law changes before then.

[EastGoing]

Myrrh,

What Vito says is correct, at least out of my experience. As far as I know she even does it for free also for the girls, but I'm not 100% sure about if and when she might ask money to someone. Of course it is not a 3 course meal, it's just something quite fast and simple, like eggs or some fried meat.
What we must always bear in mind is that in clubs like in life we are not always receiving the same treatment of somebody else from any given person. For instance, police might halt me and fine me but let you go for the same thing, and there could be plenty of reasons for that.
I am a fucking foreigner uncapable of communicating with Barbara, but she tries to treat me as good as she can. It could be a matter of sympathy, beauty, the fact of knowing that I know plenty of germans going there, who knows, maybe physical attraction (LOL!), while maybe in your case she doesn't find anything to stop her discrimination or antipathy.
When I entered in Romantika and said I couldn't understand german when asked something by the new theke, she spoke at me still in german quite badly and arrogantly. Then she observed that all the few customers in there knew me, and she totally changed to the point of kissing me when I left. (I was nearly hoping to lay her on the following visit, unfortunately it didn't happen and I had to manage with the rest of the staff).

The younger pleasant woman you met only once was more beautiful than all the girls you saw? She was her daughter! If you ask (and get) her hand, probably you have sorted out the most of your problems ahahahah

P.S. I will soon post about Verena. I take the occasion of writing this not-useful-post to thank those who contacted me also in private to thank and compliment for my posts. I don't want to be put in "reports of distinction", but I wish in this thread I could read posts (which happens too rarely), possibly containing even a small percentage of the content that I write.

[EastGoing]

More than half of my trip was spent with verena's girls. A bunch of new 19 years old girls invaded it, all fuckable really effortlessly, without needing too much fantasy or holding back the hands keeping the eyes closed, no need to concentrate only on the pussy rubbing, all fully or nearly fully enjoyed rooms. For a laughter, since it should be normal, I would add that all of them (apart from one) had perfect and white teeth, a pleasure to heartily kiss them. Every time I was going back thinking to repeat the girls of the previous day (s), and nearly every time I would see at least a new face worth a try and would be in trouble with the choice, girls' days off could give a little help. I would have liked to go to Dortmund every day but of course I couldn't do that, so I was trying to go to the other useless clubs just to put a break in between, also to rest, and every time I was regretting it and looking forward to that day going by quickly and to going to Dortmund on the following one.

I mention a few girls:

Sybell was the less fuckable among the ones I had, but her fresh pretty face, her smile, her sweetness compensated abundantly the gap with the other girls. She's a gypsy 19 years old mother, short, a little bit of belly, but worth more than one room, it was like making love at college times;

Patricia, declares 23, on holiday since last week, always looking upset, never minding customers, no eye contact, no smiles, but fairly pretty, slim, with perfect proportions, no soft areas in her body, short blonde worth more than one room. You can't joke with her, she gets upset immediately, but in the room she does all she has to do more than properly and can be quite a good session;

Denisa, 19, same attitude, behavior and character of Patricia, she's slim, tall, weak point is the face, she says she can occasionally give her ass too, not a great room but no complaints about her; worth noticing that both of them wouldn't stay alone on the couch for more than 5 minutes in spite of their unfriendly behavior;

Diana, 19, the only one without perfect teeth (but still perfectly white), tall, slim, gypsy mom with small slightly hanging boobs spoiling an otherwise perfect body, in bed nothing extraordinary but totally-hassle-free room;

Tina, 19, perfectly slim and proportionate with a very small bum, many pimples disturbing a pretty face, not a great fuck but in the overall surely worth zimmering more than once, she said she gives her ass only with condom;

I don't complete the list hoping that someone else will do it.

I would add a mention of honor to the kindness, intelligence and sympathy of Deea, who receives great posts in other forums. Unfortunately she is unfuckable for me, but she greatly entertained me a lot during "breaks" without ever minding the fact that I was zimmering nearly whomever but her. She said, to my embarrassment, that she understood I like slim girls and that it wouldn't matter to her, we could just enjoy our time chatting and joking. Compliments! (to all)

[Stim702]

20 mins of massage, Amazing BBJ. Perfect action, warmth, suction, movement, to die for.

Left happy.

About 20 min walk from DB Wattenschied, easy enough though.

[Vito Corleone]

Welcome back! Always enjoy reading your trip reports!

[Diet Coke]

20 mins of massage, Amazing BBJ. Perfect action, warmth, suction, movement, to die for.

Left happy.

About 20 min walk from DB Wattenschied, easy enough though.From DB.

Hauptbahnhof, Bochum dep 09:42 STR 302 Straenbahn Direction: Buer Rathaus, Gelsenkirchen.

Rathaus, Bochum dep 09:43.

Bochumer Verein / Jahrhunderthalle, Bochum dep 09:45.

J. -Mayer-Str. / Jahrhunderthalle, Bochum dep 09:46.

Wattenscheider Str. , Bochum dep 09:48.

Westpark, Bochum dep 09:49.

Goldhammer Str. , Bochum dep 09:50.

Elbinger Str. , Bochum dep 09:53.

Alte Heide, Bochum dep 09:54.

Centrumplatz, Bochum dep 09:55.

Vietingstr. , Bochum dep 09:57.

Querstr. , Bochum dep 09:58.

Wattenscheid Post, Bochum dep 09:59.

August-Bebel-Platz, Bochum dep 10:01.

Freiheitstr. , Bochum dep 10:03.

Lohrheidestr. , Bochum arr 10:04.

Google maps shows 6 min from Lohrheide light rail station to Lohrheidestrasse 63.

[Member #4460]

Dea managed to get transferred to F39 (but was already on holiday)Any word what her new name would be in Freude 39, since there's already a Deea there (super thin blonde)?

[Member #4460]

From September 17th to October 01, I had a two week trip to Germany. I know prices change at the drop of a hat (as I witnessed in Freude 39) but here's everything according to what I've experienced-.

September 17 - Arabella at 4:00 pm. 10 girls.

Entry - 30€. Had Sonia, Carmen, Alexandria, Moni, and Adriana.

I was tired from the flight so I wasn't at my best. I promised the theke that I'll return the next week!

September 18 - Grimberg at 11:00 am.

Entry- 30€. 10 girls.

Had Eva, Amira, Alexa, Jasmine, and Dana.

No Kathi and I spent most of my time outside explaining Trump and Hillary to a Danish and a Swiss! We also discussed the mass immigration (and later, deportation) of Syrian (and North African) refugees as well as how the European governments seem to block out the bad news (like the mass sexual assaults on New Years' Eve) and how the only time the government tells the truth (or part of it) is when someone manages to make a YouTube video on what happened!

I guess being Sunday, there wasn't many girls, so I did less than usual. I decided to end the day with Jasmine again!

September 19 - Freude 39 at 4:00 pm (they open at 3:00 pm!

Entry - 15€.

40€ uncovered and 30€ covered for 20 minutes. 20 girls.

Had Bonnie, Alina, Mea, Brianna, and Johanna.

Alina seems to go everywhere! Last year, she was in Romantika, then Arabella, then went to Dietzenbach (for a few months), and now is in Freude 39! I guess I always pick her because she reminds me of an old girlfriend who used to ride a motorcycle to places.

September 20 - Villa Verena and M-Exclusiv.

Villa Verena at 11:00 am.

Entry - 30€.

Had Denisa. My brother had Patricia. Only 7 girls, 5 were whales.

Warning! Denisa will only do you without condom if you're muscular and / or she likes you! Her service was okay. With my friend (who agreed to meet me there that day), she pretended not to know English and German too well and did him covered. The rest of the girls (except Patricia) were fat so I left the club rather unsatisfied! My brother had Patricia (covered). Service was okay.

At 12:00 pm, I felt like it was a wasted day if I didn't have any more sex so I decided to check out M-Exclusiv, Buldern, after lunch!

M-Exclusiv, Buldern at 3:00 pm (lunch wasn't that long, but I was merely sight seeing!

Entry - 2. 99€ 1 x 40,2 x 70,3 x 90,4 x 100.

I took the 4 girl special at 100€! About 10 girls.

Had Zatalina, Denissa, Lara, and Madelina. My brother had Corina, Sonja (high pressure sell tactics), Lara, and Alexandra.

All was well with the first two girls but then chubby Simona jumped on the couch and landed on my erect penis which, then, caused me to get soft like a wet noodle for the rest of the night!

When I had Lara, it was still soft and hurt from fat Simona so I just licked her pussy (Lara, not Simona! With Alexandra, I felt a little better but not hard enough to have a good time!

You can say that Simona ruined my day! Too pushy and tries to force herself on people! The front of my hips and my penis hurt from that fat girl jumping on top of it!

September 21- Luderland at 2:00 pm.

Entry - 15€. About 8 girls.

Had Maja (Maya), Laila, and Shakira.

Feeling better but the choices were mediocre.

September 22 - Annabella's at 1:00 pm.

Entry 10€. Only 5 girls. Diana was the only one doable!

Had Diana at 30€ twice.

I think I got an angry stare from one of the fat girls when I did Diana (again) after my brother finished with her. The place looks the same despite being closed for a while!

September 23 - Bernd's at 1:00 pm.

Entry 70€ (usual admissions). About 10 girls.

Had Mina, Maria (x2) AO, and Carmen.

It was their Oktoberfest theme but no free customer couch action, as advertised (both upstairs or downstairs), so it was just a plain day there. There were new girls like the dark skinned beauty, Vanessa, but she was always busy. Mina has an allergic reaction to the birth control medicine so she doesn't do AO right now. Maria, I did AO twice (100€ x 2) because I can't resist those lovely tits!

September 24 - Dietzenbach at 11:00 am.

Entry 40€. 19 girls.

Had Anais, Dani, Dona (or Dana), Katja, and Anna.

Anais didn't seem like she was in a happy mood. She was filling out some form with Dana helping her. I never noticed her lazy right eye before (similar to Nadja from Freude 39). Wasn't that much of a distraction but she had a bruise on her right shoulder. Anna was happy to see me and always a good session. Katja was also good. She's Gabbi from Freude 39 but she recognized me. I came but she kept squeezing more out. Everything was good but then I had Dani afterwards. I guess I used up my cum previously and needed to replenish. I made a mistake sitting next to Dani because once we did the couch action, I had a long, wet noodle that couldn't get hard. She then says, "Kaput!" and everyone saw. I guess I called it a day! The theke asked if I was okay and I said, "I was driving for a few hours anyway so I'm not at my best. ".

September 25 - Dietzenbach at 11:00 am.

Entry 40€. About 18 girls.

Had Anais, Elena, Selena, Anna, Alice, Andrea, Dani, Dona (or Dana), Susi, and Karina.

Feeling much better after a good night's sleep! Started with Anais first! Everything was well but then she trips and almost falls down the stairs! I picked her up and made sure she was okay. She was a little sore in the back and legs from the fall so I was a little concerned! I massaged her on the couch and actually got rid of that bruise on her shoulder (which now became a little light pink mark). I couldn't get rid of her new bruise on her lower back (which was really black and blue)! I did the best I could and admit, I was aroused giving her a full nude massage. She did make me cum but didn't charge me saying, "Thank you for the massage!" She continued to work for the whole day, which made me feel better.

I guess the time spent on Anais, I wasn't able to do 12 girls in one day but that's okay. Elena, Anna, and Karina were all great. I decided to do the "covered" girls, Alice and Andrea. Alice was asking me why I don't come to her anymore. I think I used the line, "You're so beautiful, I don't want to screw things up!" even though I really should have said, "Because you're covered now!" Anyway, she said that she's covered because the (birth control) medicine doesn't make her feel well. I guess that might be true with her. That's not a unique thing because porn stars, like Marie McCray, have an allergic reaction to some birth control medication which side effect is stomach aches and vagina bleeding. So I had covered sex with her and she's still good. After the session, I was sitting on the couch with her and told her to tell Andrea to say, "I am a Maverick!" (Sarah Palin reference) Andrea repeated the words (a little broken English) and so I went in the room with Andrea. I was satisfied with her service.

I did Dana after dinner which was actually leftover Pizza that the girls didn't eat (ham and pineapple on the pizza) and, of course, the usual long sausages with mustard and chocolate cake!

So I figured out my problem with Dani (not Dona (Dana)), and it's that I can't get past the fact that she looks like Mr. Spock to me! The only way I have a good session with her is if I have a threesome with the other girl looking pretty! Dani apologized for the other day and I suggested we have Anais (like I had them both a few months back) but Dani and Anais didn't seem to be getting along so we had Selena instead. I came in Dani while Selena was on my face!

I had Sussi next, which was a nice experience. I remember her from Arabella. We talked afterwards about travels. She has a place in Essen but has to go where the job takes her. I guess that's why I didn't see her the day before but she's been in Dietzenbach during my last trip a few months back.

Anais looked tired and wanted another massage. I did everything I could to make that bruise she got in the morning disappear but now it's a little lighter after my massage. I was aroused again by her moans as I pushed and rubbed all the knots from her muscles. I also did a vaginal massage while I was near her lower body. Afterwards, she gave me a kiss and left for the day!

The problem was, I was erect and ready to go again but the bell was rung! I didn't want to end the day with blue balls so I just grabbed the first girl I saw, which was Dana! After various positions, including doggie, I erupted with her on top!

A good day!

September 26 - Luderland at 7:00 pm.

Entry 15€. 8 girls.

Had Ada, Lori, and Roxanna.

Today was supposed to be "Cock rest" day! I'm supposed to have a day off from sex just to drive from Dietzenbach to back North. I saw the other side of the highway have some people in silver hazmat suits and a large white tent. Looks bad with people stuck waiting for them to finish (most got out of their cars)! I went to Müllers to buy the Star Trek (2009 version) movie Enterprise model kit for 39€ because they don't sell it in the United States (I sold it for $60 to some desperate soul at New York Comic Con but that's another story)! I think after buying German Playboy (Oktoberfest Edition), I felt I need to go have sex! Unfortunately, rush hour traffic was a 2 hour nightmare!

When I got to Luderland, it was dark outside. I noticed Roxanna right away. Pretty face but her body is a bit on the flabby side. When I went with her, I focused on her face. Then I went with Ada (not the same Aida I was hoping for that I met in Arabella) who had a fresh Butterfly neck tattoo (hence, no touching the back of her neck). Good session.

Then I did Lori because she was right next to Roxanna and Ada (and I was avoiding the fat girls). Good session.

I did Roxanna again when she was able to do a split on the floor. I think the fat girls looked a bit angry. I left feeling satisfied!

September 27 - Romantika.

Entry - 10€. 5 girls.

Had Sandra and Monika.

Of the five girls, only Sandra and Monika looked doable! Good service. I was satisfied.

My brother had a problem though. Some old German guy took Monika after I had her and the old guy was farting like mad! Then the old guy finished, one and done! Monika didn't come back down until an hour later, smelling like ass!

My brother had a not so pleasant session with Monika hurting near the vagina. My brother didn't cum (probably because of her hurting and her smelling of ass).

The next morning, my brother had Urinary Tract Infection! I gave him antibiotics and told him to drink plenty of water and sit out the rest of the trip! He probably should have peed directly after his sessions yesterday!

September 28 - Grimberg at 11:00 am.

Entry - 30€. About 18 (or 19 if Kathi would stop putting up and taking down her picture!) girls.

Had Lily, Amira, Alexa, and Jasmine.

Kathi looked bad. I mean her hair was up like Mom (from Mom's Friendly Robot Company in the cartoon, Futurama) and she was in a bad mood for the whole day! I tried to overlook that and sat next to her and she pushed me away saying, "Get away from me!

I asked the theke what's wrong and she said Kathi was on her period. I think later on in the day, Kathi told the theke, "I'm finished!" and continued to work for the rest of the day but I was afraid of her!

I decided that Kathi is no longer my favorite girl in Grimberg (unless she apologizes to me) and will be seeing Jasmine instead from now on! Fun session with Jasmine. For Lily, I just imagine her back when she was skinny by just focusing on her body from the chest up! I don't know how she put on all that weight on her hips and thighs but I hope it's not permanent! I had fun with Amira but I took Alexa twice!

September 29 - Grimberg at 10:30 am.

Entry - 30€. 18 girls.

Had Lily, Amira, Jasmine, Emilia, and Dana.

My brother is still sitting it out! He decided to go to Essen to walk around while I'm at Grimberg! He did tell me that there were several Mid Eastern men outside near the Eros Center there asking for money. He also saw one take a shit on the sidewalk! He went to the indoor shopping center and even a Forbidden Planet-type store called Nemo's.

Kathi was there but still looks like she's in a bad mood. I'm officially scared of her! I took Lily instead (yes, focusing on her upper part of the body while having sex). No Alexa today. What a shame! Had Jasmine and then Amira. After that I had Amira (again, because she was playing with her pussy) and then Dana. No complaints except I didn't cum with Dana after my second session with Amira (who all sucked my cum out of me)! They looked like they were going to yell at each other so I just walked over and told Dana that I still had a good time with her anyway! The last girl I had was Emilia. Good session!

September 30 - Arabella.

Entry 30€. 12 girls.

Had Annastasia, Arianna, Alexandra, Sabrina, Sonja, Moni, Carmen, and Andrea.

My poor brother felt better (with a steady [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) stream) but he still chose to sit it out! At least things are back to normal with him but the antibiotics caused him to fart a lot (before)!

I started with the two hottest girls in the place, Alexandra and Arianna. Then I noticed Moni and Sabrina was laughing at something on their iPhone. Apparently someone from Grimberg told them that I was there yesterday! I just shrugged it off but Moni seemed to be a little more aggressive in the room (wilder sex)! After that, I had Sonja, Annastasia, Carmen, and Andrea. All pretty good! I was going to do another session with Arianna but someone beat me to it! Sabrina tempted me so I went with her.

Sabrina wanted me to come back the next day (October 1) but my plans were to pack up my things and do late night with Freude 39 (since it opens until 4:00 am)!

October 1 - Freude 39 at 4:00 pm.

Entry 30€ at 4:03 pm Saturday.

Had Alina, Bonnie, Emi, Gina, Simona, Deea, Anna, Brianna, Margarina, and Andrea.

I spent the whole morning and afternoon getting my stuff together. I took my brother to REAL and then to XIAO Asian Buffet Restaurant. I was packed and ready to go!

The entry fee changed to 30€ but then changed to 10€ after 11:00 pm. I guess they're trying new things again! I didn't really care. 10€, 20€. I was ready to stay until closing!

Bonnie keeps coming up to me whenever I'm relaxing in the Kino. Of course, I went with Alina again! Then I had the other girls but decided to do their Deea (the very skinny Blonde). Nice girl!

I did find Andrea and Simona a little tight for my penis and so I was afraid of switching positions in fear of having to squeeze my penis through their tight holes again. So I just picked them up and moved them to the next position myself!

My brother got himself tested thoroughly and NO STDs! No more Urinary Tract Infection so he's doing fine! I had a wonderful time (and so did my brother. Except for the last 4 days) and I plan on going again in the Spring time!

[Sirioja]

So Freude is still AO? And Bernds also for Bulgarian brunette Maria and certainly many others, why so many guys like to fuck her. Bernds entry is 70 now?

I m not afraid of girls in brothels or in life, not afraid of HA, nor foreigners, not afraid of my shadow, more afraid of diseases.

[Member #4460]

So Freude is still AO? And Bernds also for Bulgarian brunette Maria and certainly many others, why so many guys like to fuck her. Bernds entry is 70 now?

I m not afraid of girls in brothels or in life, not afraid of HA, nor foreigners, not afraid of my shadow, more afraid of diseases.Bernd's has always had a 70€ admissions except for their special days (usually once a month) where it is 50€. I just wanted to see their Oktoberfest celebration since I knew I missed their special day the week before.

Freude 39 and other places have the girls ask, "With condom or no condom?" in German. You could easily choose "With condom" and enjoy anyway. I had a friend come with me on one trip and the places because it's cheaper than the FKKs and you don't have to worry about upselling (like in Palace and Sharks).

There was one time I suffered from Urinary Tract Infection and it was before I knew about AO places. It was a few years ago in Goldentime from a girl who is no longer there (when you're with a group of friends who did some of the same girls you did and some you didn't do, you can narrow down the "suspects" easier, especially if someone else just came down with the same problem).

[Sirioja]

I paid 50 at Bernds on beginning of January 2015 , on the day after visiting Atmos Hamburg, so of course no attractive girl for my eyes, even Bulgarian, white skin, quite beautiful natural tits, brunette, about 20 yo, Maria was there, but GND face for me, but I understand better what look for with girls, guys who go to Bernds to fuck her. Better to not have anymore rooms with some girls who had risky clients.

[EastGoing]

About Dea ex luderland, somebody had told me that her name in Bochum would be Andrea, and that some 4 weeks ago there were as many as 3 Andreas in F39. But I cannot confirm personally.

We were in the same day once in luderland and once in Grimberg... Of course any taste and any room can be different, and not all of us can have the same amount of rooms nor of orgasms... So I will not make comments about them... But 18-19 girls in Grimberg... You wouldn't even have enough sofas to accommodate them..

I thought it was a mistype... But you wrote it about 2 consecutive days... I can admit Emilia was there and I didn't count her in my post... and I forgot to mention Ada as a fuckable girl in leverkusen (that day she told me she was in her period, so I didn't take her, while Katy said she wasn't)... But I couldn't miss or forget some 10 other girls...

[Craiova]

Maria was there, but GND face for me, but I understand better what look for with girls, guys who go to Bernds to fuck her. Better to not have anymore rooms with some girls who had risky clients.Just use a condom and everything is fine and if you still have concerns you should stop going FKK Clubs. I know even some of your angels at Oase and at some other clubs they have for sure sex "with risky clients" how you call this. So better for you stop all your P6 activity.

[Sirioja]

Just use a condom and everything is fine and if you still have concerns you should stop going FKK Clubs. I know even some of your angels at Oase and at some other clubs they have for sure sex "with risky clients" how you call this. So better for you stop all your P6 activity.Just thanks to Wander to confirm guys go to Bernds looking for AO sex, for what else would You pay to fuck girls who are less pretty than many you can meet in the street? Bernds seem a bit like Freude for AO, with average free foods. Then they will look for it, everywhere, so You are right, it was better not to have sex with risky girls anymore. I didn't have so many angels at Oase, my only about 10 rooms was Maria Platinum on July and October 2014, but I'm the only one to decide what I do, that's my full freedom.

[Member #4460]

About Dea ex luderland, somebody had told me that her name in Bochum would be Andrea, and that some 4 weeks ago there were as many as 3 Andreas in F39. But I cannot confirm personally.Thanks! She was one of my favorites from Annabella and Luderland but I was hoping she was at Luderland, especially on September 21, where the choices weren't so good and the girl I would have gone with, Raissa, just got dressed and left no too long after I arrived and got ready!



We were in the same day once in luderland and once in Grimberg... I have to admit, I've seen some of the same people in some of the clubs while I went from day to day. It's mostly because I mapped out the distance from the airport to the brothels and then did it according to distance and convenience. It's sort of a "circle" pattern I did with Bernd's being the main point I worked around (September 23) because I knew I would spend the most money there due to the high admissions 70€ price and the typical 50€ per girl (and an extra 50€ to the girls who do AO).



I thought it was a mistype... But you wrote it about 2 consecutive days... I can admit Emilia was there and I didn't count her in my post... and I forgot to mention Ada as a fuckable girl in leverkusen (that day she told me she was in her period, so I didn't take her, while Katy said she wasn't)... But I couldn't miss or forget some 10 other girls...Kathi. I'm not too sure about her anymore! She was my favorite girl in Grimberg the very first time I was there (and the second, third, and fourth!) but then she left for a while and came back but was having too many calls from her mother (which made her cry in the middle of one of my sessions). Then, I didn't see her on September 18 but was happy to see her there on September 28. I have to admit, I scheduled the September 28th Grimberg trip with the mathematical probability that she would be there (after talking to a Dutch man who said, "I saw Kathi in Grimberg last Wednesday! When she was moody on September 28 (mostly angry) but didn't say why and pushed me away, I kept my distance away from her. I asked the theke what's wrong and she said Kathi was on her period (probably in defense of her mood swing behavior). I think the final straw in what's making me swear off Kathi is that she told something to her much older friend (the woman with the blonde hair and glasses who's name I forgotten right now because I never sessioned with her) and her older friend went over and told me to "Go home and sleep! This is not hotel! You come here and fuck or leave!" after I was on the couch in the back room (near the entrance) sitting back on the one seat chair after I just finished in a room with Alexa! She was practically yelling at me for no reason and I probably would have left Grimberg permanently if the theke didn't step in and calm her down! I guess out of courtesy and gratitude, I came back the next day and sessioned with much more girls (except Kathi and that older woman).

I think I might have miscalculated 18 to 19 and meant more like 12 to 13! On the display with pictures, you can place 6 (or 7, if you really cram it) per row and there are usually 3 to 4 rows in the smaller places like Grimberg (with the last row usually storing one leftover picture and a couple of empty picture holders). From memory- Kathi, Lily, the chubby Romanian, and the older woman with the glasses are there in one room, then three girls near the bar area (sometimes Jasmine joins the other Romanians in the other room), Eva, Simone, Emilia, and another chubby Romanian were in the main living room, and finally, Amira and Dana were in the last room (near the entrance). So that's 13 girls (I think 14 would be the maximum in a small place like this)!

I guess that's the problem with typing up a *long* report and not being able to go back and edit mistakes! My bad.

[Member #4460]

Just thanks to Wander to confirm guys go to Bernds looking for AO sex, for what else would You pay to fuck girls who are less pretty than many you can meet in the street? Bernds seem a bit like Freude for AO, with average free foods. Then they will look for it, everywhere, so You are right, it was better not to have sex with risky girls anymore. I didn't have so many angels at Oase, my only about 10 rooms was Maria Platinum on July and October 2014, but I'm the only one to decide what I do, that's my full freedom.Well. The rest are condom sex. Girls like Maria have to really know you (repeat customer) first in order to offer AO. The very first time I had Maria, she was only condom sex (and I had her twice that day).

The food comes catered from Reuter so it isn't that bad. Why people come here is mostly the atmosphere. No pushy girls trying to get you into a room and a friendly environment overall.

I remember my first trip to Bernd's with a group of people (this was almost a decade ago), one man suffered from a flaccid penis. He sat out most of the trip but just paid entry fees just to sit and wait with us. At Bernd's, he explained his problem to the manager and was recommended to one of the girls who made him feel a lot better! He was able to continue the rest of the trip with better confidence than before his visit to Bernd's! They may not all be lookers but at least you feel welcome while you're there!

[Sirioja]

Well. The rest are condom sex. Girls like Maria have to really know you (repeat customer) first in order to offer AO. The very first time I had Maria, she was only condom sex (and I had her twice that day).

The food comes catered from Reuter so it isn't that bad. Why people come here is mostly the atmosphere. No pushy girls trying to get you into a room and a friendly environment overall.

I remember my first trip to Bernd's with a group of people (this was almost a decade ago), one man suffered from a flaccid penis. He sat out most of the trip but just paid entry fees just to sit and wait with us. At Bernd's, he explained his problem to the manager and was recommended to one of the girls who made him feel a lot better! He was able to continue the rest of the trip with better confidence than before his visit to Bernd's! They may not all be lookers but at least you feel welcome while you're there!I'm sure many guys go to Maria only because of AO sex provided, because for safe sex, there are prettier girls in clubs with less expensive entry, big Sharks with 100 girls can be for only 45, Acapulco for 30, and better foods at Sharks, or even kebab at Aca.

On my single visit, nearly 2 years ago, because I couldn't die without knowing the famous oldest FKK, Bernds, I only paid 50 for entry and I agree staff and girls were friendly, they didn t understand why I left without any room. After Atmos, it was obvious for me. Not sure better casting than in AO clubs.

[Christian G]

Entry fee 19,99 €.

[Vito Corleone]

Entry fee 19,99.Back to 30€ entry.

[Christian G]

Been in Verena yesterday morning.

30€ entry. 25 min - 30€. 1 HR - 70€.

14 girls, all have pics in a showcase but no service report on the pics.

4/5 nice girls, line up not bad for a RTC.

First room with Alice, lovely and slim 20 yo RO, she don't speak english nor german, only the language of love. DFK on sofa then move in the room, very good BBBJ and ball licking while I fingering her pussy. Good sex in 3 position, finish in doggy.

In the room I asked for anal but nothing, she told me "Denisa anal ok" and when come back in the lounge room she show me who is Denisa.

After same relax I sat with Denisa, I ask for anal and she smile and nod. Some kiss and zimmer.

In the room she gave a great BBBJ-DT and ball licking while I fingering her asshole.

No lube needed for her, some spit and she took all my cock easy up.

Very good performance and I can enjoy her ass in some positions and fingering her pussy.

My mate made also 2 rooms, he was in his first german monger tour so we leave early for try a new club.

[Diet Coke]

Took 302 STR from Bochum HBF to 15 stops later at Lohrheidestrasse. About 25 minutes. Walked left on Lohrheidestr to 63, around 6 minutes. Rang bell and was let in. 30 euro at that time. Money boxes and lockers use same key. Downstairs to lockers and showers. Given towel, no robe. Watched for awhile and later sat with slender Ariana, RO, said she was 23 and 4 months in club. Kissing and caressing on couch but no blow offer there. To room, kissing, blow, and condom to the mission for finish. Hugging and kissing later and I said we could go, maybe 15 minutes. Not good English or German. 30 Euro. She had asked me when first in room how long and said 25 minutes and she seemed to set mobil.

Showered and had a little food and water. Finally asked where the WC was (to left of entry area).

Waited over an hour and was waiting for short haired blond with glasses. Turned out to be Anastasia, mentioned highly on German board. Playboy bunny tattoo among others. Kissing and eventually long blow on couch. To room, some standing up caressing and to bed. Eventually long good blow and to AO mission. After some time wilted and asked for more blow. Best blow yet this trip, not to vigorous with light touch on the boys and a little BLS. Got close several times, asked her to stop using up and down with hand, because it gets to hurt. Took direction well and kept it up until I finished in mouth and she contined for awhile after that. Good session. Speaks English well. Showered and had a bit of cake and left, returning on the 302.

[Diet Coke]

Late thought, I think around 8 cards and all but one with pictures.

[Yoyoma47]

Took 302 STR from Bochum HBF to 15 stops later at Lohrheidestrasse. About 25 minutes. Walked left on Lohrheidestr to 63, around 6 minutes. Rang bell and was let in. 30 euro at that time. Money boxes and lockers use same key. Downstairs to lockers and showers. Given towel, no robe. Watched for awhile and later sat with slender Ariana, RO, said she was 23 and 4 months in club. Kissing and caressing on couch but no blow offer there. To room, kissing, blow, and condom to the mission for finish. Hugging and kissing later and I said we could go, maybe 15 minutes. Not good English or German. 30 Euro. She had asked me when first in room how long and said 25 minutes and she seemed to set mobil.

Showered and had a little food and water. Finally asked where the WC was (to left of entry area).

Waited over an hour and was waiting for short haired blond with glasses. Turned out to be Anastasia, mentioned highly on German board. Playboy bunny tattoo among others. Kissing and eventually long blow on couch. To room, some standing up caressing and to bed. Eventually long good blow and to AO mission. After some time wilted and asked for more blow. Best blow yet this trip, not to vigorous with light touch on the boys and a little BLS. Got close several times, asked her to stop using up and down with hand, because it gets to hurt. Took direction well and kept it up until I finished in mouth and she contined for awhile after that. Good session. Speaks English well. Showered and had a bit of cake and left, returning on the 302.So was the AO session with Anastasia 30€ as well? Or is that more at Arabella?

[Yoyoma47]

So I've seen some reviews on the gals and prices and all of that, but what about the club itself? There's no website to see how it is inside. Can someone tell me what it's like? Bar, food, Sauna, jacuzzi or showers? Anyone care to give done details?

Thanks.

[ExpatLover]

Been in Verena yesterday morning.

30 entry. 25 min - 30. 1 HR - 70.

14 girls, all have pics in a showcase but no service report on the pics.

4/5 nice girls, line up not bad for a RTC.

First room with Alice, lovely and slim 20 yo RO, she don't speak english nor german, only the language of love. DFK on sofa then move in the room, very good BBBJ and ball licking while I fingering her pussy. Good sex in 3 position, finish in doggy.

In the room I asked for anal but nothing, she told me "Denisa anal ok" and when come back in the lounge room she show me who is Denisa..Thanks for the report, what are you looking for by visiting this kind of places, why not focusing on the biggest FKK in which you are getting many choices and possibilities, (sorry I ask this question because my feeling is that you are living in Germany).

[Diet Coke]

So was the AO session with Anastasia 30 as well? Or is that more at Arabella?Yep 30 w / AO.

[Diet Coke]

So I've seen some reviews on the gals and prices and all of that, but what about the club itself? There's no website to see how it is inside. Can someone tell me what it's like? Bar, food, Sauna, jacuzzi or showers? Anyone care to give done details?

Thanks.Small club, water tends to stand in shower area. A bit of food I saw. A few half buns with meat, fruit-apples and oranges, some cake slices later in day. Did not use sauna. Jacuzzi, I do not believe is there, but could be corrected. Water, coke, and coffee. Fairly small club showing wear. I think the attraction is extras aren't extra. At least that is what I thought.

[Christian G]

Small club, water tends to stand in shower area. A bit of food I saw. A few half buns with meat, fruit-apples and oranges, some cake slices later in day. Did not use sauna. Jacuzzi, I do not believe is there, but could be corrected. Water, coke, and coffee. Fairly small club showing wear. I think the attraction is extras aren't extra. At least that is what I thought.I think almost all RTC have a sauna (grimber, arabella, verena, venus, romantika have. Luderland I don't remember but I think yes. Never been in Annabella), F39 is more like a realk FKK-spa. No one have jacuzzi.
Food is different, last week I found sandwhich, cookies, fruit, cake and soup at Grimberg. But only fruit at Verena. Self Service machine for water, coke, fanta and sprite plus a big coffeepot.
For me the attraction is the cheap price with extra included, definitely not the club itself.

[Hessen Bub]

They all have the primitive cheap postmix plastic coke dispenser. Drinks are usually quite flat. And they all have the same tiny glasses. No whirlpools. Old worn down dark saunas.

HB.

[Neurosynth]

It took me a while, but I finally figured out that RTC stands for Really Tiny Coke.

[Citizen Kane]

It took me a while, but I finally figured out that RTC stands for Really Tiny Coke.Oh, it ain't Coke...

[Diet Coke]

Before coming to Germany and planning to stay in Bochum I researched and mapped out a bunch to the area clubs. After visiting Arabelle and Freude 39 I tore up all my printed info and since I use public transport I decided it is much easier to just revisit those 2 places. There are enough ladies to do without the hassle for me to travel to Dortmund or farther afield.

[Christian G]

Last week in Grimberg. We arrive at 10:05 because have to leave at 14:30 for the airport. Bad idea, girls looking like zombie and still sleeping on foot, make up and shower.

30 entry and 30 for 30 min. Only 9 girls, again no service on the pics.
Mickey, Katy and Lilly (she gain alot of weight! Are always here. Some nice new girls for me, a very tall (185 cm) Jasmine, blonde Antonia, and another slim girl with a nice body (forgot her name).

First room with Antonia, 19 yo RO. She speak a good english but acted very lazy with a bad social, but I like her body and decide to try. Very light kiss, good BBBJ, bad sex, so better to finish with a BBBJ / CIM.

The mood in club was very low, girls look so lazy and discussed alot among themselfs, they seems angry for something.

Second room with Jasmine, 22 yo RO, she speak english and good social on sofa while Antonia come to talk bad about me in rumanian without any reason, who care?! LOL.
In the room good BBBJ, hard sex in 3 position and finish with BBBJ / CIM.

13 o'clock time to eat some sandwhich, soup and cake.
We both want to fuck the slim girl, but she was always busy. So I sat near Katy, but she was very tired and in a bad mood and told me that is better to no make room today. Well I like the sincerity, I appreciate it.

At the end we decide to leave and don't run for the last room.

[Hessen Bub]

Oh, it ain't Coke...Well it actually is Coca-Cola.

HB.

[Sirioja]

Thanks for the report, what are you looking for by visiting this kind of places, why not focusing on the biggest FKK in which you are getting many choices and possibilities, (sorry I ask this question because my feeling is that you are living in Germany).What looking for? But isn't Verena an AO club?

[Member #4585]

Oh, it ain't Coke...Are you implying that RTC means Really Tiny Cock?

This is something Siri would imply.

[Citizen Kane]

Are you implying that RTC means Really Tiny Cock?

This is something Siri would imply.No, I was merely implying my doubts about their quality of their cola. Thankfully HB has cleared up this matter so we can all sleep easy, provided caffeine levels allow.

[Optimist]

I read that there is a Larissa here. Does anyone know if it is the same Larissa who worked here early in the year. ? Very very slim pale skin dark haired Romanian.

[EastGoing]

I read that there is a Larissa here. Does anyone know if it is the same Larissa who worked here early in the year. ? Very very slim pale skin dark haired Romanian.Yes, she is the usual Larissa, the one you like ;-)

[EastGoing]

I am just back from a short trip. Regarding the discussion about what RTC might mean, I would ask suggestions about what AO might mean. Maybe a mix of the 2, All Stuffed Cunts Clubs, so ASCC, would better describe these museums of "monsters", currently showing, apart from Verena and F39, real unimmaginable collections. Or "EBBP", everything but bare pussies.

I came across so many stuffed pussies that I am now confused and don't recognize a bare vagina when I penetrate it. Luckily I am back at home and I will find out again, "set" what the "real thing" is.

After tampaxes, tissues, wet towelettes like in airplanes and for infants, rinseable reusable sponge absorbents which once I even had to buy for a girl since in clubs are sold at more than double price and these poor girls have no time to go out to buy them (and have no money to pay, not even a debt of 50 euros in cash), while BMWs with boyfriends can be seen out of the club more than one hour before closing time because they "sense" that there are pratically no more customers.. We live in a strange world with strange rules and great wastes.. After all this, now I even found a gauze of those used by doctors to keep bandages.

Months ago I was thinking to make a list of the girls stuffing their cunts, now I think it would be quicker to make a list of those who don't... if I can recognize them.. In this trip, following my "doubts", a girl let me finger her on our second session to show me that there was nothing, but she had taken the stuff away before the session and put back on the following one!

[ButtLover]

Yes, she is the usual Larissa, the one you like ;-)Hi!

Is it the same Larissa who worked att FKK Dietzenbach a couple of years ago?

BL.

[Myrrh]

All Stuffed Cunts Clubs, so ASCC, would better describe these museums of "monsters", currently showing, apart from Verena and F39, real unimmaginable collections. Or "EBBP", everything but bare pussies.

I came across so many stuffed pussies that I am now confused and don't recognize a bare vagina when I penetrate it. Luckily I am back at home and I will find out again, "set" what the "real thing" is.

Months ago I was thinking to make a list of the girls stuffing their cunts, now I think it would be quicker to make a list of those who don't... if I can recognize them.. Easygoing,

We feel your pain. You are well renowned for providing these insights. Insights which would have missed other mere mortal mongers. Like the girls reserving rooms for themselves so that they can disappear into them for long periods when they want to rest. So we appreciate your powers of observation.

But I am not really feeling this one to be honest, if you will pardon the pun. I have not noticed rolls of toilet paper sticking to the end of my dick and unraveling from a girls pussy when I withdraw. Nor have I had difficulty fitting my 6+ dick into girls pussies.

But then again you are the guy who famously used to complain if your dick was not massaging the end of your girlfriend's cervix in Arabella during a session. This was before she ended the relationship and went back to Romania two years or so ago. I wonder if you are still in touch? Well it would seem that your 'reach' is further than most guys and so are able to detect even minute amounts of foreign matter in the far reaches of a girl's vagina which shouldn't be there. This would not be a problem for the normal man.

However I agree it is an issue, because for me the turn on from bareback sex is no longer the enhanced feel of skin on skin compared to condoms but the thought at the back of your head that at some point sperm is going to spurt from your dick and soak the reproductive organs of the female that you are banging. But how can it do this if there are man made barriers to capture the little wrigglers.

Is there any club where you have not noticed the girls doing this? Girls like to talk in a club so if one is doing it there then the others are all bound to join in.

This just makes our task that much harder in RTC clubs. So now it is not just a problem about finding a girl who is willing to bareback and who is also willing to let you come inside but now who is also willing not to stuff her pussy with wool.

Is anyone else experiencing this tissue issue?

[Optimist]

Yes, she is the usual Larissa, the one you like ;-)Thanks Mr Encyclopaedia :). Time for a detour to VV.

[Optimist]

Myrrh. I have come across the stuffed pussy syndrome with one girl. I asked her what she had inside, she said nothing, but left the room and returned with a penetrable without pain pussy. She had a tight pussy anyway so additional filler was a pain.

Your response to EG was fun. I have learned from experience to believe all he says.

[EastGoing]

Myrrh,

You like to titillate the few daredevils who dare to post a line in this desolate thread, so I will follow your provocations, at least you put some spice since you cannot post anymore a single field report. The only thing which "can make me famous" here is the fact of posting useful info in a dead thread which I happen to read only when I want to write something, since I know that nearly never I will find something interesting to me.

About stuffed pussies,

We must distinguish those girls who are always filled from those who do fill only when having the menses, and also those who admit or even declare having stuff from those who deny. Now most of girls don't like / allow fingering, which makes me suspicious before hand. And, when I have doubts, I am led to believe girls who come back from girls' bathrooms and tell me laughing "I saw xxx had stuff inside", happened twice this trip, while on previous trip once I pulled out my dick, inserted fingers quickly and pulled out the fucking tissue to the face of the astonished hooker.

Also, it depends on how much stuff, on the position it occupies: in the top of pussy, by the womb, if stuff is small and wet I may not reach or mind, since I am small sized, and I would feel, mind and concentrate basically on the rubbing of the rest of my dick against the real thing, therefore not realizing the intruder.

Since some girls try to lie in spite of knowing me already, I want to make a mention of honor for Ada in Luderland: on first time she saw me she admitted having tampoon due to menses, she let me put the finger and it was just by the entrance, I wonder how a man couldn't realize that.

About my "relationships",

Well I had quite a few, bigger or smaller, anyway I reckon obvious for a mere mortal, specially one used to real corpses in his country, to be overwhelmed by the devastating service that most of these girls used to offer and some still do, even if in my case I always made and I am still making "victims" among prostitutes at home.

I share the following (true!) to make your ass burn more, let's admit to proudly brag about, since I am sure you never did nor ever will: last summer I went with a romanian hooker on a mediterranean cruise, each one paying its own expenses, making free love and sex, in navigation even romantically on our sea-view balcon at the 11th deck of a huge cruise ship :-D

When I have time, I will write a couple of lines about my recent visits. My dear friend, I like to think of you using those bloody wet tissues to soothen your ass after reading the above ahahahah ;-) ;-D

[EastGoing]

I go to Dietzenbach really seldom, as far as I know the discussed Larissa normally is either in Venus or out of Germany, so I don't think that she is the same girl.

[EastGoing]

Some unlucky circumstances made me go to Grimberg. Since this board is read by men mostly with white hair if any, I would dare a comparison with football teams like they were until 25 years ago: every supporter knew the line up from 1 to 11, the same works for this club:

Defenders including goalkeeper (actually couchkeeper): Lily, Micky, Katy, Magda, Cristina sitting even 2 per couch in the small room beside the bar;

Midfielders and "foreigners": Emilia, Simona, Eva, Angie randomly in the other 2 rooms;

Strikers Antonia and Jasmine (actually the best ones optically speaking) in the counter room.

Occasional "substitutes" or part of the team may complete the list, local Amira off for a while, there was Laura, previously in Arabella as Amira.

Coach Justina.

After 8 pm entrance was 15 euros.
Funniest thing was a girl pulling out in front of me her tampoon with blood. Have I the right to be traumatized?

[Wry Cooter]

I would like to also meet the slim Larissa. I believe it was you Op who told me she was worth the visit!


Thanks Mr Encyclopaedia :). Time for a detour to VV.

[Christian G]

Some unlucky circumstances made me go to Grimberg. Since this board is read by men mostly with white hair if any, I would dare a comparison with football teams like they were until 25 years ago: every supporter knew the line up from 1 to 11, the same works for this club:

Defenders including goalkeeper (actually couchkeeper): Lily, Micky, Katy, Magda, Cristina sitting even 2 per couch in the small room beside the bar;

Midfielders and "foreigners": Emilia, Simona, Eva, Angie randomly in the other 2 rooms;

Strikers Antonia and Jasmine (actually the best ones optically speaking) in the counter room.
It seems they like to play with a classic 4-4-2.

[EastGoing]

Christian,

Yes, of course, they all were already there some 25 years ago and surely nearly all of them will still be there in 25 years, so they play old fashioned schemes. Let's hope that Cindy and Sissi come back to make the dream team complete, since Antonia and Jasmine are pretty and "new", and they spoil the aesthetic harmony of the club, LOL!

[EastGoing]

Once again, this club gave a sense to my trip. Nobody to go for or nobody worth in Arabella (only Alexandra), Grimberg (OMG), Venus and Romantika (as far as I am concerned they could be closed), here there was choice, quality and quantity. Once again, I mention only a few ones, all perfectly (and unbelievably for these clubs) toothed. I am still hoping and waiting for someone to write about other ones.

- Marianna, less than a month in club, 30 years old, around 1,60 tall (short), decent face, her hard body would be perfect and proportionate with curves, flat stomach and muscles if she didn't have a pratically flat chest. Good kisser, good performer, giving the impression to participate and enjoy, but with the obsession of the 25 minutes. First room ok, second one we stayed 5 minutes more and she was insisting for a tip of 5 and got upset when I denied. On 3rd room I couldn't finish because I was so close but she had already stayed 5 minutes more and she unplugged and we had some... bad feelings towards each other;

- Isa, about 20 years old, last month was Ada in Leverkusen. Simply unrecognizeable, we even discussed the matter with german colleagues, she should be catwalking in fashion parades, unbelievable to have her there AO for 30. Perfectly slim, even too much, and proportionate, flat stomach, nice boobs, little mouth in a greatly arranged face and haircomb, unfortunately not too hot in the room, she tries to do what she can, which is ok from the point of view of committment and mechanical result, but it is clear she has no pleasure and no passion;

- Sara, 25 declared years old persian girl, a couple of days in the business but it was rumoured she had already left on my last day there. Phisically eyecatching, cheerful and always smiling, she can be tried for your Risiko pussy collection. Other customers were appearently satisfied, but our room was... Let's say disappointing to cut it short;

- Karina, about 20 years old, phisically slim, proportionate, flat stomach, nice little boobs, around 1,64. Weak point is the face, not that bad anyway. Unfortunately her pussy was in pain, but if she was in good condition she would be worth zimmering;

- Andrea, 19 years old, about 170 cms tall, eyecatching, enthusiastic, smiling and usually in good mood, good skills but too childish;

- Nelly, bulgarian, some 26 years old, decent body even if with big boobs hanging, decent room. Eventually I got informed that in girls' bathroom she was dealing with fucking filling.

Dana, unfortunately for me, went back to Dortmund from Grimberg. She was always fairly busy, but surely in such an environment I couldn't go with her, nor could I go with Elena (ex Alina, ex Venus, ex Romantika, etc.). One thing is to go with them when there are no other choices, but in minimally acceptable conditions of quality they are not even second choices (for me).

I want to add this for those writing here about AOing or not. A doctor came one day to visit a few girls, not all of them. I didn't investigate what tests were made, but on my last trip about one month ago a girl (actually at least 2) had a fungal problem and / or anyway pains in the pussy, and I am not talking about Karina which I hadn't met. A couple of german guys said to me that her pussy was still smelling bad (I didn't go with any of the 2 on this trip). Get your conclusions.

[Optimist]

EG, you mention bad smell. Normally this is BV, which is not an infection but a disturbance of the natural pussy flora, often caused by using chemical laden pussy cleaning wipes, or sometimes condoms.

[Dreams]

EG, you mention bad smell. Normally this is BV, which is not an infection but a disturbance of the natural pussy flora, often caused by using chemical laden pussy cleaning wipes, or sometimes condoms.Hum. This is certainly true, but. Bad smell can also be due to vaginal infections, whichever they may be. In other words, a train can mask another one.

[Vito Corleone]

Great reports & info on the girls! Greatly appreciated!

I also experienced the stuffed pussies here & there. Not with my regulars but a couple new girls.

[Varenne]

A new RTC club has opened at the location of former Partytreff Flughafen (not to be confused with Pauschalclub Dortmund), very close to Dortmund airport:

http://www.fkk-airport.com

[Downandup]

A new RTC club has opened at the location of former Partytreff Flughafen (not to be confused with Pauschalclub Dortmund), very close to Dortmund airport:

http://www.fkk-airport.comIs that a part of the same RTC chain? From its web site appearance, it looks to be.

[Free Dude]

Is that a part of the same RTC chain? From its web site appearance, it looks to be.Mostly girls from freude I hear, which makes sense because Fruede has been busy lately.

[Christian G]

A new RTC club has opened at the location of former Partytreff Flughafen (not to be confused with Pauschalclub Dortmund), very close to Dortmund airport:

http://www.fkk-airport.com


Mostly girsl from freude I hear, which makes sense because Fruede has been busy lately.Good to have one more club! Hope in some new girls also, and not only the well known faces move around in every clubs.

[Usel1]

The parking place is not the best aspect but it looks interesting even if the ladies belong to the same RTC chaim.

We aill see.

[Timmy99]

FYI,

I was just refused entrance into Grimberg. Odd since I have been there 3- 4 times in the past. The girl who answered the door was clear, in broken English that no "chocolate" was allowed. Actually rang the door again because I was so surprised by her behavior ("are you lost chocolate / go away" it would be funny if I wasn't irritated). When the the manager / lady who typically takes the entrance fee came to the door, she also refused without an explanation. At this point I just kinda shrugged and left. Irritating because the manager knows me and I've spoken with her at least twice in the past. Just an FYI for any darker complected people considering visiting. Experienced this once at Goldentime a few years ago (my fault for not reading the forum first) Maybe there is a new policy at Grimberg?

[SneraDog]

I made a repeat visit to Varena this past weekend, mostly to reconnect with Iza who Eastgoing mentioned in his report a few posts down and who I had also found very attractive and had a good time with a month ago. However, she has since relocated to Freude and went back to her old name Ada.

Frankly, as opposed to a month ago it was somewhat disappointing. Only 9 name cards on the counter.

The standout for me was a new girl Alice, young, tall gazelle just the way I like them. To me she had a very pretty face and long brown hair. Interaction was good. The only downside was that her boobs are somewhat saggy, but it still gave me great pleasure to deposit some of my genetic material inside her uterus. Overall, would definitely repeat.

I targeted Karina next, but as it turned out I was number 3 in line for her, and since she was more of a GND type than a stunner, I did not feel it was worth waiting that long and left. The remaining 7 girls were unfuckable by my standards.

In my opinion, this club does not compare to Freude, where the current lineup boasts much better choice (albeit at a slightly higher price).

[EastGoing]

I have visited Luderland. Some 12 girls, Hennef club is closed so nearly all of the girls moved there. 3 new faces for me, 2 bulgarians and one romanian.

Problem: as some of you might have read somewhere else, the girls (actually the romanian ones, 9 on that day) ask 10 euros more for AO, like in F39. I am not updated about the advertisement, which should still be officially "30 euros alles inklusive", the theke said it is not the club, it's the girls willing to ask more! I didn't feel like questioning the matter because it would have been totally pointless, if not ridiculous, to deal with such a justification.

"What? You want to fuck me without condom for 30 euros? You are crazy?" was a sort of refrain, when I was trying to make objections, from girls willing to inform me of the news. A pity that I didn't find any of them fuckable, not even for free, and a pity that they have been doing it for years until one week ago or something like that: Maya, about 50 years old, and Anita, a real garbage dumpster, just to mention a couple of "starlettes". Actually I forgot to mention Sara, indeed one of the greatest bodies who ever entered a RTC, because her smaller-than-a-peanute-brain makes her refuse the most of customers who have already been with her (I specify this to make clear that she doesn't do that only with me) and doesn't tell her to go to work anywhere else, which she could do effortlessly.

Out of this, I found fuckable only one of the 3 bulgarians. Language barriers wouldn't have hindered her from asking me 40 euros, in the beginning she had told me she wouldn't allow genetic material in her holes, I thought that was said to ask for more money, instead eventually she said I could unload in her pussy, so I went with her thinking that 30 bucks were ok. When I gave her only 3 tenners, she looked a bit surprised. She gave me a look like if she wanted to say something, but then she thanked me and went for her own matters. I showered and left.

It is rumoured that also other RTCs are considering this raise, unfortunately the rumour says: "starting from Verena". Luckily I have been there too, I didn't ask anything, but the topic didn't come out, so hopefully the rumour is wrong.

If RTCs really raise prices, I will not need to wait for July to quit them, because it is already hard enough to find fuckable girls in these clubs, actually museums of monsters, skeletons, whales, real top exhibitions of falling boobs, asses like swiss cheese because of cellulitis, bellies like pillows, toothings like crosswords, even a girl with one eye only (poor girl, but she doesn't even anymore look at me even with the working eye), etc. And you must get them to come with you and give you a decent session... WTF!

[Christian G]

Problem: as some of you might have read somewhere else, the girls (actually the romanian ones, 9 on that day) ask 10 euros more for AO, like in F39. I am not updated about the advertisement, which should still be officially "30 euros alles inklusive", the theke said it is not the club, it's the girls willing to ask more! I didn't feel like questioning the matter because it would have been totally pointless, if not ridiculous, to deal with such a justification.They ask 10 euro more for CIM and anal also? Thanks in advance.

[Vito Corleone]

Problem: as some of you might have read somewhere else, the girls (actually the romanian ones, 9 on that day) ask 10 euros more for AO, like in F39. I am not updated about the advertisement, which should still be officially "30 euros alles inklusive", the theke said it is not the club, it's the girls willing to ask more! I didn't feel like questioning the matter because it would have been totally pointless, if not ridiculous, to deal with such a justification.

It is rumoured that also other RTCs are considering this raise, unfortunately the rumour says: "starting from Verena". Luckily I have been there too, I didn't ask anything, but the topic didn't come out, so hopefully the rumour is wrong..I experienced this issue at Verena recently. Alice & her friend with zero tits were expecting more. Both speak zero English so it was difficult to understand at first. Alice pulled out a condom the first time & I said w / o. She insisted & I insisted while both of us are using sign language. I said ok & got up started to grab my towel. She grabbed me & signaled OK w / o. Did her a second time & looked at the 20 & 10€ bills as if I gave her two 10€ notes. Did the flat chested chick & same reaction. Walked toward Alice to sit next to her & she stuck out her legs across the couch. Whatever!

I didn't notice at first but when I was ready to go to the room with Alice she would walk to the reception desk. I thought she was getting a key but I noticed later that she was grabbing a condom from the tray.

No issues at Dietz, Arabella or grim but stuck with my regs.

If they make it official 10 extra for AO I wouldn't care. What's another 10 to cream in a hottie like Alexandra at Ara.

[Myrrh]

If they make it official 10 extra for AO I wouldn't care. What's another 10 to cream in a hottie like Alexandra at Ara.Because this represents a 33.33% increase?

[Neurosynth]

"I have visited Luderland. Some 12 girls, Hennef club is closed so nearly all of the girls moved there. 3 new faces for me, 2 bulgarians and one romanian. ".

Can someone confirm that Annabella is closed. Is this temporary (again) or permanent?

[Member #4460]

Anything is possible over the past few months! I was there near the end of September, but the choices of girls were a few, so I ended up going with the same girl twice!

[Wanking]

even a girl with one eye only (poor girl, but she doesn't even anymore look at me even with the working eye), etc. So does she take it bareback in the eye socket??

[Vito Corleone]

So does she take it bareback in the eye socket??For an extra 10€!

[Usel1]

For an extra 10!Hi vito,

I thought the extra was only in Freude!

[EastGoing]

Christian,

I didn't ask, anyway I'd say none of them was making anal. And the "refrain" was only about AO;

Neurosynth,

I even mentioned 3 of the 6-7 girls who were working in Hennef (Anita, Sara, Maya). Also German friends said that. It is written also in other forums, therefore I would insist that it is closed. When there will be enough girls (and customers), so probably after the Christmas holidays, probably Annabella will reopen again. A friend of mine told me that yesterday in Romantika there were 4 girls, they eventually got one of the ugliest ones from Verena to make it 5, customers were even less, entrance 30, I don't think it will stay open much longer in coming days;

Wanking,

Nice to see that the (ex?)moderator of this thread appreciate my posts. Actually she has a blind eye, I don't know if she allows facials;

Vito,

It is a matter of principle. If you go often in the same restaurant, the owner will surely offer you a free coffee, a free liquor, will round down your bill, etc. He will not ask you more money for the same steak, or give you 20%-33%-50% less of it, or both things! I agree that Arabella's Alexandra is worth much more than Dietz's Dani, but still I won't fork out more money for a girl I have already had. At least provide me new ones, hopefully fuckable and skilled. When I go to F39 I look for new faces, otherwise I will look for a girl giving me the closest thing to the "old fares", otherwise no room (anyway I go in the evening after happy hour, after making room in the other clubs, so it is not a great issue).

All the bullshit of extras and time-cuts (20 minutes in F39 and 25 in Luderland, Verena, etc.) made me make a "desperation experiment" in Dolce Vita Raubach, since it is said that over there the girls don't mind the clock. Where should I post about, since it is not in NRW? In AO dead section?

[Neurosynth]

Sorry EastGoing, I didn't mean to question your judgement or anything. I was mostly trying to figure out if they are closed forever or just closed for now.

[Vito Corleone]

Vito,

It is a matter of principle. If you go often in the same restaurant, the owner will surely offer you a free coffee, a free liquor, will round down your bill, etc. He will not ask you more money for the same steak, or give you 20%-33%-50% less of it, or both things! I agree that Arabella's Alexandra is worth much more than Dietz's Dani, but still I won't fork out more money for a girl I have already had. At least provide me new ones, hopefully fuckable and skilled. When I go to F39 I look for new faces, otherwise I will look for a girl giving me the closest thing to the "old fares", otherwise no room (anyway I go in the evening after happy hour, after making room in the other clubs, so it is not a great issue)...EG,

It's a matter of is 10€ really that big of a deal? Maybe it's a game changer for you? Since most of the clients at the RTC seem to be on a budget the extra 10€ will cut down the waiting list for the top girls. Even at 50€ I would cream in the hotties. Yes. I also prefer new meat but I'm happy banging these hotties 30+ times.

The days of pre-paying 4 twenty min sessions for 100€ & paying 30€ extra for AO wasn't a big deal then (55€ for 20 min). I wouldn't bat an eyelid 40€ for a session. OK, 4-5 yrs ago there was some really smoking hot talent & 55€ to splash around inside a hottie for 20 min was a pretty good deal back then!

[Christian G]

All the bullshit of extras and time-cuts (20 minutes in F39 and 25 in Luderland, Verena, etc.) made me make a "desperation experiment" in Dolce Vita Raubach, since it is said that over there the girls don't mind the clock. Where should I post about, since it is not in NRW? In AO dead section?You could post your report about DVR here http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3177-Dolce-Vita-Raubach.

[Myrrh]

All the bullshit of extras and time-cuts (20 minutes in F39 and 25 in Luderland, Verena, etc.) made me make a "desperation experiment" in Dolce Vita Raubach, since it is said that over there the girls don't mind the clock.
A german guy rang me in early morning and offered to come to pick me up at my accommodation to go there. It really wasn't my intention, also because he wouldn't switch clubs for any reason once he enters somewhere and I had planned with another deutsche mann to meet up in Buldern, following his insistences.If only we had a group of Germanic friends to ferry us around venues then we too would be able to post trip reports from far and wide. I used to believe EasyGoing was the champion of the public transport P4P punter, turning up at clubs up and down the NRW with a tram ticket in his hand (and a copy of Bild to read on the way, LOL) but it now turns out that he is actually being ferried back and forth in relative comfort in the back of Audis and BMWs. No wonder he has been to so many places. No, I'm not jealous. Just looking forward to more Easy reports on different places so I don't have to bother going there myself. Keep up the good work, Easy!

[EastGoing]

Myrrh,

It was the first time I hired a car, only an insane (or a desperate man on his way to airport) would travel to Raubach for visiting that house. For the rest, I actually am a champion and connosseur of public transport, honestly not too often with a valid or validated or proper ticket in his hands. I buy Bild only when I can get a discount, I have even travelled (by train, obviously without correct ticket) in another province to buy it get free entrance in Romantika.

Vito,

I think that tips or gifts or anything which doesn't keep up with the allowed time for the requested money (so I include also the customers finishing the room and coming out in 10 minutes) is a damage to all customers expecting a certain service for a certain time for a certain amount, as advertised. If these girls have been doing it for 30 minutes for 30 euros, there is no reason to pay them more and / or accept to stay less time in the room. My "reward" is mainly repeating rooms, and / or speaking well about a girl.

As I said, it is a matter of principle, because I admit that anyway what they offer is appallingly cheap, in other countries you may not get it in spite of paying much bigger amounts and not even by doing that.

Neurosynth,

No problem, I am not God and you can question whatever. I just wanted to reassure you ;-)

[EastGoing]

Visited because I had been told that already zimmered Tina (ex Verena ex F39) and not-yet-zimmered Mony (ex F39 and ex Dortmund airport) had just joined. Nothing extraordinary, but surely worth zimmering. Another new (ugly!) face, bulgarian, with a decent slim body was there, I think Sonia. 10 girls in total, no happy hour. Angie, Antonia, Katy, Magda, Cristina not seen. Not too many men either.

[Vito Corleone]

Vito,

I think that tips or gifts or anything which doesn't keep up with the allowed time for the requested money (so I include also the customers finishing the room and coming out in 10 minutes) is a damage to all customers expecting a certain service for a certain time for a certain amount, as advertised. If these girls have been doing it for 30 minutes for 30 euros, there is no reason to pay them more and / or accept to stay less time in the room. My "reward" is mainly repeating rooms, and / or speaking well about a girl.

As I said, it is a matter of principle, because I admit that anyway what they offer is appallingly cheap, in other countries you may not get it in spite of paying much bigger amounts and not even by doing that.
I agree about not tipping & giving gifts. I rarely ever tip & the only gifts I give is protein. Alice & her flat as a board friend at Varena received the standard 30€. It is a matter of principle to pay the clubs official price. What I meant was if the standard club price is 40€, then the extra 10€ Wouldn't bother me. If the official club prices go up 10-20€ big fucking deal!

I can see how 10€ extra can boil your blood. If not paying the correct train fare helps you get a hard on then more power to you. We are all from different cultures & respect different values. I would be ashamed to cheat the system.

Anyway your reports are always entertaining!

[EastGoing]

Visited repeatedly as usual. One day even 15 photos!

A couple of words about 2 new girls zimmered.

Emma is about 27 years old and has a good slim body, gypsy face ok from distance, specially when smiling, but from close I had to close eyes. She says she is new in the business, which I found plausible. No hassle in the room about time, positions nor anything else. Good for a change, but not necessary to repeat.

Irina is a bit bigger than my standards, but is fairly proportionate and I felt like trying her. It is a sort of sadomaso experience, as she likes to describe herself, but not really my kind inspite of being an ok room, also because she pushes too much the conversations as well.

Another "new" girl is ex skeleton ex Gaby from Freude, the only bulgarian girl. She has fixed her teeth and more than doubled up her weight, to the point that I didn't take her because I noticed cellulitis and deposits of fat spoiling the proportions and profile! To be reevaluated, hoping she loses some 4 kgs.

For the rest, Dana is gaining weight day by day and has become an insatiable "haide-zimmer" machine, never happy no matters how many rooms she makes (many); Elena is back and craving for rooms; Alice is now a bred pro; Denisa instead hasn't learnt to make any eye contact or anything similar to a smile; Andrea keeps on making plenty of rooms with any dog as if he was the most interesting man on earth; the other girls mostly observe, more or less nosily.

P.S. Vito, a "system" which charges 1,5 euros for 3 tram stops and nearly 12 euros for a single short trip like Duisburg-Gelsenkirchen, less than 30 km covered in some 20 minutes, and then allows tickets from the country's most northern city to the most southern one for 19 euros is stupid and sick.
The fact that VRR site doesn't allow a foreigner living outside Germany to buy tickets at discounted prices, while a resident can get 10 tickets or perhaps more with a good discount, but not pass them to a foreigner friend, is racist and... to say the least - like Airberlin and Germanwings charging 10 euros more if the customer cannot pay through an Austrian, German or (I don't recall what other nationality) bank account, a bullshit that they quit recently. The reason probably being that it should be illegal, being it discriminatory against other nationalities of the EU. But which individual is going to sue Airberlin for 10 euros per booking?
This system deserves all the tricks I can invent, beyond the fact of saving money

[Myrrh]

Visited repeatedly as usual.


Once again, this club gave a sense to my trip. Nobody to go for or nobody worth in Arabella (only Alexandra), Grimberg (OMG), Venus and Romantika (as far as I am concerned they could be closed), here there was choice, quality and quantity. Once again, I mention only a few ones, all perfectly (and unbelievably for these clubs) toothed.

- Karina, about 20 years old, phisically slim, proportionate, flat stomach, nice little boobs, around 1,64. Weak point is the face, not that bad anyway. Unfortunately her pussy was in pain, but if she was in good condition she would be worth zimmering
I made a repeat visit to Varena this past weekend,

The standout for me was a new girl Alice, young, tall gazelle just the way I like them. To me she had a very pretty face and long brown hair. Interaction was good. The only downside was that her boobs are somewhat saggy.

I targeted Karina next, but as it turned out I was number 3 in line for her, and since she was more of a GND type than a stunner, I did not feel it was worth waiting that long and left. The remaining 7 girls were unfuckable by my standards.

In my opinion, this club does not compare to Freude, where the current lineup boasts much better choice (albeit at a slightly higher price).I have been contemplating visiting this club but could not help notice the starkly divergent opinions from Easygoing and Snera. Maybe seeing is believing and I need to pay a trip to judge for myself.

[EastGoing]

Myrrh,

In other forums is possible to put a fix sentence, here not. As I have written sometimes:

Opinions and tastes are different;.

Not all girls will give the same service twice or to different customers;.

YMMV;.

Plus this which works for RTCs and similar AO clubs: the concept of beauty and fuckability must be adjusted and reduced a lot, specially if compared to normal clubs. As we all know, nearly none of the girls of these clubs could work in normal clubs. In F39 you have a bigger choice and something for your eyes too, but those few ones will not work AO (please don't tell me Andrea is who knows what, watch her without heels and without make up, she's short and with falling boobs, and you realize she's special only if surrounded by the quicker-to-jump-over-than-to-circumnavigate girls staying in RTCs). Of course if you go to Acapulco, Living Room, Oceans, etc. , you will not find anything interesting for your eyes when entering Verena (imagine entering Romantika!!!)

Alice has nearly unwatchable saggy soft boobs, black hair and is around 1,60, has a very pretty face and is a sweet baby, Karina has a better body (not flat chested, even if not far from that) but worst face.

Put it this way: go to Venus, Grimberg, Romantika, etc. , enter all those clubs, and tell me in which one you'd enter a second time.

I will write my post about DVR and then see you all next year. Merry Xmas and Happy New Year to all

[SneraDog]

Myrrh, as Eastgoing said, tastes are subjective and one man's beauty might be another man's beast. My opinion is just that, an opinion. You will have to see for your self to really see what you think of the girls.

The other problem is that the quality of the line up can fluctuate significantly. I went to Arabella 2 months ago and had a great time with Ariana, Alexandra and Sonja. I returned a month ago and all 3 girls were missing-as you can imagine I did not enjoy my repeat visit quite as much. So it is also somewhat a luck of the draw.

I agree that the RTC clubs on average can have comparable quality, but again, not all days or month are equal-it really does change.

In my opinion, F39 stands head and shoulders above the other RTC clubs regarding the sheer number and quality of the girls. Earlier this month there were 33 girls on a weekend evening and 27 on a weekday. The girls were also much more to my taste and I found multiple girls that I found attractive (this does not mean there were perfect-but all I need is "attractive", not necessarily "stunning", especially in the AO game). Rachela indeed is covered -only (as is Nicole), but at a price of 30 Euros it is still a good deal. The AO girls that I found attractive included Bianca, Dea, Ada, Miriam, Emma, Andrea, Alexandra (yes, I know, not the most popular girl on this forum, but I like her), and Simona (I can't resist that sweetness of a 19 year old body). Way more girls than my cock can handle, and that is a nice problem to have. Thus, while I do visit the RTC clubs, I spend most of my time at F39.

[Usel1]

Holiday time is visible, less girl on a Wednesday, about 8 girls and not the 14 mentioned in German forum.

Lot of polar bears, but not so ancious to have nice time. Better watch.

30€ to enter, no food apart from some bananas and apple.

Elena; pretty slim brunette, not perfect breast as usual in RTC (seen worse definitely.) already done some time ago in Villa Venus and inproved seeming like to play!

Irina: some kg more than Elena but nice as well who like and really to be spanked!

Nicoletta: funny and lovely but a bit in a hurry. Nice face, round but acceptable body.

Emma; very slim, very kind but not a tiger in the bed.

Anyway, I had fun with these ladies and sure to repeat.

[Usel1]

Few but very good girls!

Bahar, Micaela big boobs were off, back at home for rest but.

Marianna, Dana, Ina, Mina, Nicole, Nelly were there daring the holiday time.

Mona plus as new even if worked in Spain. Speaks English and Spanish if your German is poor.

The fun I had, definitely much higher than in Verena; Mariana, Dana (great deep-thr.), Ina and Mona to adore. Lovely and no hurry at all. No rush.

Sorry for my pocket, hormons and time, but also the remaining girls need a run.

30€ to enter and as food, just some sandwich to ask to the thekefrau.

[BigBuddy69]

So Ina is still here. Maybe you know when she takes her day off? Thanks.

[Usel1]

So Ina is still here. Maybe you know when she takes her day off? Thanks.Hi BB,

She told me is going to stay there.

Anyway not in her country.

Enjoy.

[Myrrh]

Myrrh, as Eastgoing said, tastes are subjective and one man's beauty might be another man's beast. My opinion is just that, an opinion. You will have to see for your self to really see what you think of the girls.

The other problem is that the quality of the line up can fluctuate significantly. So it is also somewhat a luck of the draw.

In my opinion, F39 stands head and shoulders above the other RTC clubs regarding the sheer number and quality of the girls. Earlier this month there were 33 girls on a weekend evening and 27 on a weekday. The girls were also much more to my taste and I found multiple girls that I found attractive (this does not mean there were perfect-but all I need is "attractive", not necessarily "stunning", especially in the AO game). Thus, while I do visit the RTC clubs, I spend most of my time at F39.Took a calculated decision based on the discussions here and went to F39 first rather than Verena during the Christmas / NY break. Maybe because of this Christmas break many of the girls mentioned, Ada, Miriam, Emma, Andrea, Alexandra, Simona (she of the 19 year old body sweetness) were not there and numbers were down to 21 or less rather than the 27 or 33 mentioned. A lot of the girls there had bodies that made them look like seal pups.

The next day trekked out to Verena in Dortmund. Oh my goodness. Now I know where they have sited the hospice for existing survivors of the Chernobyl nuclear fallout disaster. Chalked off my 30 euro entry fee to experience and circled back out.

[Myrrh]

Does anyone know if any of the RTCs are open on New Year's day? I know that F39 will be closed.

[EastGoing]

Myrrh,

Arabella will reopen on Monday (source: a girl on whatsapp before midnight). I don't remember exactly about the other ones because I didn't need to know that.

I am looking forward to reading your posts with names, descriptions, performances, feelings, timing, impressions, etc. The whole forum is awaiting to read long proper posts "including if and how much toilet paper is available, because it is info which might be useful", like you proudly vowed long ago.

Come on, expose yourself once and give us the chance to criticize you, your tastes, your opinions, your skills, your actions, your choices, etc. ;-)

[Myrrh]

I am looking forward to reading your posts with names, descriptions, performances, feelings, timing, impressions, etc. The whole forum is awaiting to read long proper posts "including if and how much toilet paper is available, because it is info which might be useful", like you proudly vowed long ago.

Come on, expose yourself once and give us the chance to criticize you, your tastes, your opinions, your skills, your actions, your choices, etc.After your many splendid, highly entertaining and informative accounts over the past few weeks it is the least that I can do to contribute just one report.

Here you go easy, enjoy.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2597-FKK-Samya-Cologne&p=1980703&viewfull=1#post1980703.

Also, my friend.

Guten Rutsch.

[Maxime]

We have still 6 months to go for the new law to go into effect in Germany, but official policy in Venus is now already NO more BBBJ and AO in the bar! Curious if this also is true in the other RTCs.

In the room services seem still ok, but will be interesting to see customer visits drop dramatically from July 1st onwards, or let's hope the new, to be elected government, will withdraw this crazy law ASAP!

[Sirioja]

We have still 6 months to go for the new law to go into effect in Germany, but official policy in Venus is now already NO more BBBJ and AO in the bar! Curious if this also is true in the other RTCs.

In the room services seem still ok, but will be interesting to see customer visits drop dramatically from July 1st onwards, or let's hope the new, to be elected government, will withdraw this crazy law ASAP!I m not German but I really wish Germany will protect poor Romanian or Bulgarian WGs health. They are about 20 yo. Even prostitutes in brothels, they deserve to avoid diseases, to be able to have a nearly normal life, when they will be able to leave this bad business. I m not interested to make pregnant a prostitute in a brothel.

[Optimist]

After your many splendid, highly entertaining and informative accounts over the past few weeks it is the least that I can do to contribute just one report.

Here you go easy, enjoy.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2597-FKK-Samya-Cologne&p=1980703&viewfull=1#post1980703.

Also, my friend.

Guten Rutsch.Myrrh. More such reports would improve the forum immeasurably. Thanks.

[Maxime]

I m not German but I really wish Germany will protect poor Romanian or Bulgarian WGs health. They are about 20 yo. Even prostitutes in brothels, they deserve to avoid diseases, to be able to have a nearly normal life, when they will be able to leave this bad business. I m not interested to make pregnant a prostitute in a brothel.Agree when it concerns (unwanted / forced) AO, and if this law can help prevent this, ok. But (willing / not-forced) BBBJ is kind of the USP of the German FKK / Sauna club scene, and together with decent DFK the main reason lots of foreigners from Holland, Belgium, etc visit German clubs. When BBBJ is off the table, they will not make the 100-300 km trips anymore for sure.

[Sirioja]

Agree when it concerns (unwanted / forced) AO, and if this law can help prevent this, ok. But (willing / not-forced) BBBJ is kind of the USP of the German FKK / Sauna club scene, and together with decent DFK the main reason lots of foreigners from Holland, Belgium, etc visit German clubs. When BBBJ is off the table, they will not make the 100-300 km trips anymore for sure.Wanted or not, AO sex in brothels is risky and not only about pregnancy, that s why I say this new law will try to protect poor WGs health. Same about sleeping in dirty from fucking rooms. But I already found my NL, Austrian and Swiss spots for BBBJ. I will miss autobahns.

[Happy Fkk]

I m not German but I really wish Germany will protect poor Romanian or Bulgarian WGs health. They are about 20 yo. Even prostitutes in brothels, they deserve to avoid diseases, to be able to have a nearly normal life, when they will be able to leave this bad business. I m not interested to make pregnant a prostitute in a brothel.I know someone who is driving crazy, making himself a sure murderer. I wish Germany law will soon give death to this kind of person. .

You should avoid showing your kindness, intellect by supporting freedom killing laws, 'for the safe of people'. If a girl is forced then police have to prove it, then justice do the job. I pay taxes for police protect us, not to watch me 24/24, putting me in jail because I drink cola that is bad for health, and so so much things.

[Myrrh]

Prizes for guessing what name she was called before, what club she used to work at and where she is working now?

Plus, what was so special about her that made her grab the attention of any man whenever she chose to uncross her legs?

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Prizes for guessing what name she was called before, what club she used to work at and where she is working now?

Plus, what was so special about her that made her grab the attention of any man whenever she chose to uncross her legs?Lily, Venus, no idea, albino pussy.

[Sirioja]

I know someone who is driving crazy, making himself a sure murderer. I wish Germany law will soon give death to this kind of person. .

You should avoid showing your kindness, intellect by supporting freedom killing laws, 'for the safe of people'. If a girl is forced then police have to prove it, then justice do the job. I pay taxes for police protect us, not to watch me 24/24, putting me in jail because I drink cola that is bad for health, and so so much things.Usually, I try to drive to the grip limit. I liked to play over the grip on dry track with Xdrive on autobahns, and even I was forbidden to drive in Germany and maybe complaint will forbid me again, but figures are: more than 150 000 kms in Germany for 4 years, under rain, on snow, most of time at night, no crash.

Other figures: More than 400 days in FKK from Hamburg to Zurich, Basel and Villach. At on Italian border. No girl never went to complain to the desk about me.

About AO clubs and AO girls with many poor Bulgarians driven by pimps. These poor girls only work in risky AO sex because they are just not pretty enough to make money in normal, sex with condom, club, not to enjoy to get our cum in belly. So, as I love so much my freedom to think or to write, I confirm I think this law is good to protect WGs health, even I will miss BBBJ from few skillful girls and I will not pay for CBJ.

[Optimist]

Myrrh. I know the girl and found her a turnoff for no rational reason. I did go with her but really didn't enjoy it

[Christian G]

Usually, I try to drive to the grip limit. I liked to play over the grip on dry track with Xdrive on autobahns, and even I was forbidden to drive in Germany and maybe complaint will forbid me again, but figures are: more than 150 000 kms in Germany for 4 years, under rain, on snow, most of time at night, no crash.

Other figures: More than 400 days in FKK from Hamburg to Zurich, Basel and Villach. At on Italian border. No girl never went to complain to the desk about me.

About AO clubs and AO girls with many poor Bulgarians driven by pimps. These poor girls only work in risky AO sex because they are just not pretty enough to make money in normal, sex with condom, club, not to enjoy to get our cum in belly. So, as I love so much my freedom to think or to write, I confirm I think this law is good to protect WGs health, even I will miss BBBJ from few skillful girls and I will not pay for CBJ.Usually the members of this forum don't open this thread for read about your driving adventure, this is the thread for NRW AO clubs, It is clearly written in the title.

You don't like this kind of clubs, we understood. So why you come here somtimes for write the same useless things? I suppose it's just to make a controversy.

If I'm not interested in a club I do not read the thread and I do not write only for annoy other members who want to read the reports from the club.

[FlurkMan]

Usually the members of this forum don't open this thread for read about your driving adventure, this is the thread for NRW AO clubs, It is clearly written in the title.

You don't like this kind of clubs, we understood. So why you come here somtimes for write the same useless things? I suppose it's just to make a controversy.

If I'm not interested in a club I do not read the thread and I do not write only for annoy other members who want to read the reports from the club.I couldn't agree more. I do not participate in AO myself. But I adore the super sexy atmosphere in these clubs!

So: those who dislike AO: Just ask the girl for a condom and let the other members alone.

For the record: I admit, finding a condom may take the girl over 5 minutes!

[BigBuddy69]

You're right, so to be safe, just bring yours.

[Christian G]

I couldn't agree more. I do not participate in AO myself. But I adore the super sexy atmosphere in these clubs!Me too I don't do AO, but I like the clubs for the cheap rate all inclusive and for the high service.

[Myrrh]

We have still 6 months to go for the new law to go into effect in Germany, but official policy in Venus is now already NO more BBBJ and AO in the bar! Curious if this also is true in the other RTCs. I can recall visiting Arabella when the prospect of a new law was first being discussed.

I saw a slutty looking slim girl with dyed blond hair and dirty black streaks. I liked the look of her so just simply went over to where she was on a couch and tried to mount her. She very quick to realize what I wanted and without a word eagerly spread her long legs wide to accept me.

But then this tall, stocky, mature woman with short blond hair (she is one of the working girls but is kind of second in command to thekenfrau) came rushing over and planted the palm of her hand between my stiff dick and the girl's pussy when my dick was only just millimeters from penetrating.

No she said, the rules had recently changed and we had to go to the room now for ficken.

Fast forward 6 months from that and it was back to banging on the couch once talk of the proposed new law had subsided.

Maybe the same will happen and things will revert back to normal once this new law has been in place for 6 months to a year or so.

[Optimist]

Myrrh, never had you down as an optimist LOL.

[ExpatLover]

I can recall visiting Arabella when the prospect of a new law was first being discussed.

I saw a slutty looking slim girl with dyed blond hair and dirty black streaks. I liked the look of her so just simply went over to where she was on a couch and tried to mount her. She very quick to realize what I wanted and without a word eagerly spread her long legs wide to accept me.

But then this tall, stocky, mature woman with short blond hair (she is one of the working girls but is kind of second in command to thekenfrau) came rushing over and planted the palm of her hand between my stiff dick and the girl's pussy when my dick was only just millimeters from penetrating.

No she said, the rules had recently changed and we had to go to the room now for ficken.

Fast forward 6 months from that and it was back to banging on the couch once talk of the proposed new law had subsided.

Maybe the same will happen and things will revert back to normal once this new law has been in place for 6 months to a year or so.Since several days on many German forums the discussions are very active about the new law, to make it simple the main conclusions for most of the German mongers are: no more gang bang, no more actions in public spaces, use of condoms for sex and BJ under the full responsibility of the customer, increase administrative control of the FKK and brothels owner and the girls and all this will progressively increase the prices in the coming months (not just the 1st of July) due to the fact that there will be less girls, are they wrong or right let s wait to see. For me, obviously the new law will change the things (this is the main goal of the German government), stronger control, will decrease the offer and like always will increase prices this are the basic rules in any business not only prostitution.

[Dreams]

Prizes for guessing what name she was called before, what club she used to work at and where she is working now?

Plus, what was so special about her that made her grab the attention of any man whenever she chose to uncross her legs?Maybe because she had something hanging on between her legs?

[Vito Corleone]

I couldn't agree more. I do not participate in AO myself. But I adore the super sexy atmosphere in these clubs!

So: those who dislike AO: Just ask the girl for a condom and let the other members alone.

For the record: I admit, finding a condom may take the girl over 5 minutes!"Sexy atmosphere" Well, that's a new one. More like 1920's silent movie atmosphere.

[Neurosynth]

So I'm in Bonn now and the two closest RTCs have in the past been Annabella (Hennef) and Luderland (Leverkusen).

But is Annabella still closed? What's Luderland like these days?

[Maxime]

We have still 6 months to go for the new law to go into effect in Germany, but official policy in Venus is now already NO more BBBJ and AO in the bar! Curious if this also is true in the other RTCs.

In the room services seem still ok, but will be interesting to see customer visits drop dramatically from July 1st onwards, or let's hope the new, to be elected government, will withdraw this crazy law ASAP!Looked it was temporarly measure. Couch action is back for now (change will take place end of June at the latest).

[Optimist]

So I'm in Bonn now and the two closest RTCs have in the past been Annabella (Hennef) and Luderland (Leverkusen).

But is Annabella still closed? What's Luderland like these days?My last Luderland visit a couple of months ago was like attending a funeral in a morgue: about 7 uninspired girls rattling round the cavernous deserted facilities (only two men, including me).

I read elsewhere that the service currently offered is covered, but that is just a couple of reports. If you're in Bonn it's worth a quick look.

Not sure if Annabella is open: the website is still up

[EastGoing]

Like last week Bundesliga started off again after the December break, in the same way the line up in Grimberg after Christmas holidays is back to normal, even Angie and Sissy back! As well as Micky, Lily, Katy, Magda. Jasmine, Tina, Moni and, if I recall well, 2 bulgarian "UCOs" ("Unidentified Circumnavigable Objects") complete the team.

Angie is not anymore loudly offering her ass to any 3-legged walking around like she was doing before disappearing. Actually she even seems to suffer anal and tries to cheat about the time.

Fuckable Tina has always downstairs pains and is a pain in the ass also for customers not finishing quickly. Her clock must have some synchrony with Angie's one.

One thing worth reporting is that no uncovered sex is anymore allowed on sofas, not even BBBJ.

[EastGoing]

I visited Arabella after quite some time.

New face for me was Vanessa, slim with smiling face but nothing worth, then the usual well known 3 bulgarians plus the rest of romanians:

Anastasia, getting bigger and more and more looking like a man;

Maria, unwatchable, looking like a pensioner, it (not a mistype) seems to declare 38 years of age;

Melissa, gypsy, not too big and not much younger than the above derelict;

Arianna, from F39, breathing dead skeleton with quite a few missing teeth, at least she has an excuse for not smiling;

Janina, ex verena ex F39, surely not a reason for going there;

Roxana, has worked in all RTCs also as Carmen and something else, sweet unfuckable disproportionate skeleton with yellow teeth;

Alexandra and Sabrina, normally the main reasons for visiting this club, but both with pains in the pussy, the latter even got fatter anywhere.

In a word, no need to rush back.

[ExpatLover]

I visited Arabella after quite some time.

New face for me was Vanessa, slim with smiling face but nothing worth, then the usual well known 3 bulgarians plus the rest of romanians:

Anastasia, getting bigger and more and more looking like a man;

Maria, unwatchable, looking like a pensioner, it (not a mistype) seems to declare 38 years of age;

Melissa, gypsy, not too big and not much younger than the above derelict;

Arianna, from F39, breathing dead skeleton with quite a few missing teeth, at least she has an excuse for not smiling;.When I read your report frankly I prefer mastubate myself.

[Optimist]

EG. Angie is the one who used to be at Grimberg?. Slim, small. I last saw her a year ago and was astonished that she and longer seemed to enjoy anal, whichup till then had been her enthusiastic forte. For the first time with her I failed to finish. I guess she said bunt out.

[Sirioja]

When I read your report frankly I prefer mastubate myself.Always better to visit before saying, so I visited a few of them because I m curious and I always prefer to see with my eyes used to prettiest girls in clubs, and they found only 1 really pretty girl at big Sharks after last Summer. So, I visited Freude, Arabella and another one but I don t remember the name, I think ex Angelique but not in Viersen anymore. In all these clubs, no free foods like in normal clubs, but I have same problem at high level History Liestal. Girls there are sitting, looking and smiling at You, because You are different, among old fat Germans. Girls look very sweet for behavior when they speak to You, many are Bulgarian in these clubs. But I don t know where to look at, to avoid eye contact, so I leave after 2 hours, just to be sure not to miss a model. Only Esmeralda. Bu and Beatrice tried at F39 , but very average level for sex, low level for Beatrice with lack of care for her teeth and pussy and legs shaving. Far from Globe standards for girls care or Megan beauty or body care.

[ExpatLover]

Always better to visit before saying, so I visited a few of them because I m curious and I always prefer to see with my eyes used to prettiest girls in clubs, and they found only 1 really pretty girl at big Sharks after last Summer. So, I visited Freude, Arabella and another one but I don t remember the name, I think ex Angelique but not in Viersen anymore. In all these clubs, no free foods like in normal clubs, but I have same problem at high level History Liestal. Girls there are sitting, looking and smiling at You, because You are different, among old fat Germans. Girls look very sweet for behavior when they speak to You, many are Bulgarian in these clubs. But I don t know where to look at, to avoid eye contact, so I leave after 2 hours, just to be sure not to miss a model. Only Esmeralda. Bu and Beatrice tried at F39 , but very average level for sex, low level for Beatrice with lack of care for her teeth and pussy and legs shaving. Far from Globe standards for girls care or Megan beauty or body care.Actual LU in many big FKK clubs is just crazy, full of choices I don't understand why I need to go to some poor place with limited LU.

[Sirioja]

Actual LU in many big FKK clubs is just crazy, full of choices I don't understand why I need to go to some poor place with limited LU.These clubs are for AO sex. Why do you want pretty girls take risks for their life in these clubs, when they can make business in normal clubs? These clubs are Bulgarian GND land.

[Dreams]

Actual LU in many big FKK clubs is just crazy, full of choices I don't understand why I need to go to some poor place with limited LU.Quite right, why do you still go to places you constantly say you hate? And why do you continue polluting those threads? Please report you happy time in the big clubs in their respective thread!

[EastGoing]

I post this about my visits to Verena on my last trip, probably now it's out of date, but better than the useless discussions cluttering the forum...

There were 8-9 girls: Alice, Karina, Irina, Lorena, Erika, Nicoletta, Moni, Denisa. The only new face was Anna, 4 days old in the club and in the business. 19 years old if not less, slim, blonde, fairly pretty, fresh and full of enthusiasm and "curiosity".

I am an old-mannered thinking guy, I consider myself a child inside, I am not too brilliant nor full of "phantasies" in bed, where I am quite basic and monotone, so I must say that I got a sense of disgust and inadequacy seeing Alice going with 2 men in the room and even more seeing her and Anna going with 3 men later on.

I forgot to say that in Arabella full AO sex still happens on the couches, I even saw Camy (ex F39, I forgot to mention her) with her mouth overflowing with sperm after a many positions-session. I was considering taking her, since she also allows anal, but after such a show I changed my mind.

[BigBuddy69]

Wow, EG the AO priest is now a prudish guy? Those kind of shows should turn you on!

[Johncr04]

I was wondering if any electronic devices (phone or tablet) might be allowed in any RTC clubs? The last time I visited the RTC clubs I was a bit bored during my recovery times (if there wasn't any good public action going on) and was told I could not use my phone at all. I was hoping to read a book or the news on it. Do any of the RTC clubs allow electronics, maybe in a designated area? I understand why they wouldn't. I'm planning on bringing a good book, in any case. Thanks to everyone who shares on this board. What a resource!

[EastGoing]

I visited grimberg and found: Katy, Magda, Micky, Sissi, Cristina, Angie, Antonia, Amira and a new face, Emanuela.

I was risking to waste a day, but luckily and unexpectedly a guy popped in and after a quickie took me to F39. I had been there for 3 hours plus, I was still virgin, I convinced myself to try this new girl in the time my friend was zimmering Angie, who currently doesn't allow anal anymore.

Emanuela must be over 35, but the body is ok, slim, still hard, much better than many younger girls in RTCs, average face.

I must say I regret wasting the time I was there without trying her before, I will surely zimmer her again in future, because she has enthusiasm, endurance, doesn't suffer, actually genuinely likes to deal with a dick, all customers are happy with her passion, which perhaps she still has because she's new in the business.

I can't say she's a reason for going there, if not else for her age and look. I mean that she clearly shows her years, giving me trouble in thinking that I'm paying an "old woman", while girls like Sabrina in Arabella (37 this year, as well as Carmen now in F39) don't show signs and are much better than girls who could be their daughters.

So, not necessary to go to grimberg for her, but if you happen to be there...

[EastGoing]

I was told that the matter of the 10 euros extra like in F39 was over after some 3-4 weeks due to records like totals of 12 men in a whole day (!), so I visited again. 15 euros HH, otherwise 30. There were 3-4 new faces for me, the prettiest and freshest one (18 yo) disgracedly working only covered. In total some 10 girls: Anita, Maja, Fanny, Veronika, etc. Lena ex everywhere was there, already highlited by me in the past, she is the only one surely worth a zimmer. You won't hunt her across clubs, but if you see her you know you have a good safety net which will save your entrance.

I gave, on her offer-request, a second chance to Lori. I accepted since she is the more attractive girl phisycally speaking. The room was decent and successful. She did what she could to please me, considering the "limits" she has, she really tried to minimize them as much as she could. Just to list a few ones: "troubled" kissing with retractile tongue and paralysis of the jaw, panick attacks when she realizes that 10-15 minutes have gone and you are still there, belief (and charges) that it is you not willing to unload, bothers regard changing positions, hurry to rush out as soon as you finish even if there is time left, etc.
I think she'd be better off in Dietzenbach, where she probably has learned "how to work". I really felt like being in Hesse and I was expecting to see theke Alice with her pout when we walked downstairs!

Then, for masochistic reasons which would better make me bang my head against a wall rather than making certain wrong choices, I tried a new bulgarian, Ana, not to be confused with romanian Oana, new as well.
Phisycally proportionate and fuckable, on the couch she allowed me the time to inform me that she was gypsy (some of them are proud to vow that, but who cares?) and sucked me not even 30 seconds before saying the magic word (zimmer).
Not having common languages, I heard only the usual 3 words which normally bulgarian girls say in the room: Komme, Schatzi, Fertig (come, honey, ready). No kissing, no sucking, no-anything, just inside somehow. I don't know how, I managed to finish, luckily in a "reasonable" unusual quick time.
The end of Dante's Divine Comedy came to my mind!

[BigBuddy69]

I think that the two sisters Lily and Maya have moved to Acapulco gold. There were two girls that really looked like the pictures of freiercafe.

[ExpatLover]

I was told that the matter of the 10 euros extra like in F39 was over after some 3-4 weeks due to records like totals of 12 men in a whole day (!), so I visited again. 15 euros HH, otherwise 30. There were 3-4 new faces for me, the prettiest and freshest one (18 yo) disgracedly working only covered. In total some 10 girls: Anita, Maja, Fanny, Veronika, etc. Lena ex everywhere was there, already highlited by me in the past, she is the only one surely worth a zimmer. You won't hunt her across clubs, but if you see her you know you have a good safety net which will save your entrance.

I gave, on her offer-request, a second chance to Lori. I accepted since she is the more attractive girl phisycally speaking. The room was decent and successful. She did what she could to please me, considering the "limits" she has, she really tried to minimize them as much as she could."Gypsy" are European woman, most of them are nice sweet and doing nothing bad. With the Jews they were the first to suffer from Hitler, they are part of our European history and many European people are proud of that. Many Gypsy are from Romania and due to the fact that they belong to Europe the things are strongly improving for them.

[Vito Corleone]

Great trip reports! Always entertaining!

[EastGoing]

Thanks Vito,

I have something that will boost up your ego: in Venus Barbara cooks only for the girls, so you are a privileged guy, possibly the only one! (differently from Myrrh, I don't scroll back, but I think I remember you wrote that she cooks for you).

I visited repeatedly, because after ages without reasons for going to Duisburg, finally in one go there were some 6-7 new faces for me. Out of the usual resident Melly, Bahar, Maria, Michaela Big Boobs and Bulgarian Marianna plus the various miscellaneous transitory "jokes of nature" with 2 holes in the middle of the legs, now it seemed by other forums and by word of mouth that the mess of monsters had turned into a place with good girls.

The first thing I noticed, which was also a reversing trend among RTCs, is that girls got slimmer! Is Barbara healthy cooking and/or imposing diets? Vito might tell!
I didn't recognize Marianna, become a flat-chested skeleton, and I thought that even Maria could be fucked!

The power of gravity has dramatically gone down, and at least one girl actually floats in the air: bulgarian Mina. She is fucking attractive, Barbara's daughter says that her service improved a lot and everyday she's topscorer. I can confirm and I would add that, breaking other established laws, in this case against those of maths, in her case if you multiply zero by x, assuming that her service improved twice or more, actually you now get something possibly close to 0,7. Not necessary to determine the maximum value of the scale.

The over-celebrated Rianna (in another forum) is at max 145 cm and maybe 35 kgs. Men really fall in line for her, tickets like by supermarket's butchers should be placed. Apart from the boobs, I couldn't find anything attractive, so I thought that it had to be about her skills.
Well, she is a good, calm, polite, honest and professional girl, stating during the interview all the limits and procedures of the menu. Since I gave my informed consent, like by the doctor, I cannot formulate any formal complain. After waiting a few hours and undergoing a couple of stolen priorities because she went to somebody sitting and waiting on her couch rather than coming to me (we had agreed she would come to me next), I was close to abandon this evidently useless experiment and leave, but my stubborness once again drew me against the wall. I would say that going with her is at least against the laws of logics.

I end up this longer first part with a girl who manages to go against the laws of market and house rules, but capable of exponentially improving her service, much more than Mina. Laura has a very pretty cheerful face, smile and eyes are great as well as her kissing. The rest of the body is fuckable and the process of getting slimmer goes ahead well. After being kicked out from Romantika for poor performing, anyway she was working very little because she worked only covered (these 2 things is what I have heard), she started giving such a good "total" service that now (the following is from my own personal experience and I witnessed) she has customers taking her 4 hours and even 7 in a row. She just came downstairs some two times to get drinks. I managed to test her, and I would recommend her without hesitation: willing to please, no refusals, no hurries, no pains, no complains, perennial smile, passion, etc.

To be continued when I have time.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

You appear to be the only member going to these clubs in some time (or at least posting about visits to them) so thank you for your reports describing the (usually bleak) situation at these clubs. Glad to hear that Venus has improved. Will have to visit it when I am there in May.

[Vito Corleone]

Thanks Vito,

I have something that will boost up your ego: in Venus Barbara cooks only for the girls, so you are a privileged guy, possibly the only one! (differently from Myrrh, I don't scroll back, but I think I remember you wrote that she cooks for you).

I visited repeatedly, because after ages without reasons for going to Duisburg, finally in one go there were some 6-7 new faces for me. Out of the usual resident Melly, Bahar, Maria, Michaela Big Boobs and Bulgarian Marianna plus the various miscellaneous transitory "jokes of nature" with 2 holes in the middle of the legs, now it seemed by other forums and by word of mouth that the mess of monsters had turned into a place with good girls.

The first thing I noticed, which was also a reversing trend among RTCs, is that girls got slimmer! Is Barbara healthy cooking and/or imposing diets? Vito might tell!
I didn't recognize Marianna, become a flat-chested skeleton, and I thought that even Maria could be fucked!

The power of gravity has dramatically gone down, and at least one girl actually floats in the air: bulgarian Mina. She is fucking attractive, Barbara's daughter says that her service improved a lot and everyday she's topscorer. I can confirm and I would add that, breaking other established laws, in this case against those of maths, in her case if you multiply zero by x, assuming that her service improved twice or more, actually you now get something possibly close to 0,7..Barbara has cooked many meals for me. If I ask she will make a plate. She refuses every time I offer a 10€ tip.

Marianna has lost a lot of weight. I think she looks good, but I didn't bother sitting on her couch as she used to refuse me when she was really busy in the past. "I fuck too much" as if the rest of her clients just pop after 15 strokes! Not busy anymore, but my pride keeps me from her.

Mine has improved, but it's not saying much as she was barely better than a blowup doll. She used to act half retarded & now seems a bit quirky.

The tiny hobbit girl was just too busy to bother trying.

Alexandra is the only reason to visit Arabella. Antonia & jasmine still good sessions at Grimberg.

F39 gets more confusing as some girls keep changing their services from no extras (AO) then back to extras. I guess sitting on their asses with zero clients can do that. 1 girl changed 4 times during the 2 weeks I visited.

[Sirioja]

You appear to be the only member going to these clubs in some time (or at least posting about visits to them) so thank you for your reports describing the (usually bleak) situation at these clubs. Glad to hear that Venus has improved. Will have to visit it when I am there in May.Can't even find pretty girls at Sharks or Oase, so how could I in these places? If I looked for AO sex, would be easy in biggest clubs.

[ExpatLover]

You appear to be the only member going to these clubs in some time (or at least posting about visits to them) so thank you for your reports describing the (usually bleak) situation at these clubs. Glad to hear that Venus has improved. Will have to visit it when I am there in May.Is there any interest to go there? For me sorry after visiting those club no. Was last week at ROM near Darmstadt because on German forums a lot of guys are reporting very positive things about it, but I left after several hours without any session and was really happy to spend my evening at Shark. Shark was clean, great sauna, good food and very impressive LU why should I spend my time in this kind of underground club with a little bit desperate girls when I can have the top for several euros more.

[EastGoing]

why should I spend my time in this kind of underground club with a little bit desperate girls when I can have the top for several euros more.You answered yourself and Sirioja too: because it is several times cheaper!

Vito, the girls say they pay The cook, you don't! You are a VIP, LOL!

I didn't visit all clubs for a few reasons. Anyway, 4 girls in Romantika, 8-12 in Verena, some 8 in Arabella didn't encourage me. The lack of stars or of supposed-to-be and / or of new faces (which were all concentrated in Venus) did the rest. I agree with all Vito said, and the sentence "you fuck too much" echoes in my ears everywhere, not only from Marianna's mouth (she'd better stuff also that cavity), which has the additional handicap of the "stuffing" and contrariety to the emptying.

It seems that, perhaps due to the new law, now clubs will not have more girls than rooms, which probably explains why:

- Venus (1), Arabella (2), Luderland (x) and Grimberg (3?) added some fick-cabins where they could;.

- all small clubs have few girls and F39 is so full.

So, not counting girls on day off, you will probably not see anymore more than 4-5 girls in Romantika, which probably you won't visit anymore, 11 in Grimberg, etc.

Also to answer a pm, I specify that, as far as I know about the clubs I visited in this trip, in Venus there is full sex in public (seen entire sessions) and at least a blowjob could be had in Luderland, but they might have changed like F39 did.

More to come.

[Downandup]

More to come.That would be appreciated. I'll be visiting at the end of March and planned to try many of these clubs so it would be good to know what changes have happened recently. I was planning on Grimberg and Arabella in the hope that the service had not changed and then adding a few others if the mood struck.

[Myrrh]

Vito, the girls say they pay The cook, you don't! You are a VIP, LOL!EasyG,

this might be another 'Corleoneism'.

Vits mate, do at least try and give us a hint when you are 'pulling our leg' won't you?

[Vito Corleone]

Vito, the girls say they pay The cook, you don't! You are a VIP, LOL!

I agree with all Vito said, and the sentence "you fuck too much" echoes in my ears everywhere, not only from Marianna's mouth (she'd better stuff also that cavity), which has the additional handicap of the "stuffing" and contrariety to the emptying.Yes. I know the girls pay. I don't ask for a plate every time I visit. When venus had Antonia, Jasmine, Michaella#3/ Anais (dietz) & a couple other cute babes I used to stay all day. Now I just bang 1-3 babes & off to another place. Sometimes she puts butter & meat on bread. I don't think I'm a VIP, but I've known Barbara for 7-8 yrs or so.

You can add Ariana (Ara) & Kati (Grim) to the you fuck too much list. I guess they prefer romantic poetry & cuddling!

[EastGoing]

- Anna quite pretty, nice body and boobs, optically speaking she is a must in such an environment, you can't help noticing her. A bit on the shy-retractive side, she'll follow your instructions but without passion nor committment. I am sorry to say I don't remember anymore all the details of all the girls, for instance I think I recall nearly all of them were stuffed but agreed to extract the hated tissues. Anyway, about her I am sure she didn't let me finish in her pussy and took it into the mouth (quite passively though, I mean she didn't move tongue, lips and perhaps not even the hand, pratically she just received my heirs).

Still much better than Rianna, who wanted to receive my cum in mouth because, after discussions in the room due to my (expected and announced by me) wilting after quite a hard raising, she gave me the unbelievable privilege to pull out the bloody stuff but didn't allow me to finish inside. As I already said, she informed me about everything on the couch, so it was my stubborn choice to go ahead. Apart from my "informed consent", also the procedures in the room reminded me of a doctor, and she is quite aseptic even if she doesn't wear alb and surgery gloves. Remarkable her "kissing": just the tongue waving in open air, not even lips contact. Next time I go there I want to ask Germans what the hell they find in her and why the hell do they fall in line for her all day! Only a friend who had been with her had warned me not to have great expectations, but without giving me too many details.

- Mona (or Moni?) some 34 yo, tall, soft, proportionate but would be better wit a couple of kgs less, she wants you to be happy at all costs, possibly making her enjoy the room as well. Not stuffed, always smiling and full of enthusiasm, new in the business, she puts passion and effort, greatly committed, the positivity she continuously irradiates will make you notice her even if you are looking somewhere else or have other more eyecatching targets. Never complaining or getting tired, from the point of view of the service surely the best girl I have met this trip.

- Rebekka slim, gypsy, falling boobs but fuckable, willing to please you without complains. Ex-aequo or slightly after second best Laura, both not too far from Moni.

- Ina she's Tina from Verena, F39 and more recently grimberg. Moody, overstuffed and constantly receiving complaints from customers, she can be a hit or miss room, but her body and boobs will highly likely make you take the chance (if she doesn't get kicked out before your visit).

There is a Denisa which should be worth a room, I remember this now because I just read a post about her in freiercafe. I don't remember why and how I didn't zimmer her, to be honest I am not sure about who she is, anyway I will next time. And there is a MILF, Nicole, with tall slim body, the problem is her face and her rabbit teeth, but for 30 euros you may want to try the experience and see if your dick can go through that gate, LOL!

So, plenty of choice but also plenty of men, bell always ringing, girls come and go from the rooms continuously, the very most of them doesn't stay alone 5 minutes on the couch and Rianna and Mina have waiting lists beyond the men waiting on their couches (also because you may have trouble in finding an empty couch to sit, some men stand waiting). Atmosphere is uncomparable to the other dead empty small clubs.

Updated to last week, surely Venus is the club to go to.

[Optimist]

Always great to hear of the sufferings you endure in the Quest for the unstuffed pussy.

Standing around in VV would be the pits.

[EastGoing]

Always great to hear of the sufferings you endure in the Quest for the unstuffed pussy.I had forgotten to ask for removal, so when I pushed into Ina I thought I had broken the cover of (and entered) a packet of Kleenex!

[Sirioja]

Heroe Jimi had his musical experiences and his foxy lady, I decided to have my experience in deep Ruhr, remembering MSV Duisburg which was a good team, Gelsenkirchen Schalke 04 , Bochum, are. W. Essen and Wuppertal where I remember a great match between RFA and Sweden in Worldcup 1974 with a wonderful goal from Ralf Ekstroem versus Sepp Maier. Now, BVB, of course, with magic stadium, Bayern can't compete on this point.

Clubs like Venus, Arabella, Verena really don't worth 30 € because very low level for services and no real foods. On Saturday, I spent from 11 am to 5 am at Aca for 30, with breakfast, 3 times eating good kebab, preparing my drinks all along. But I asked many times, but never got any answer, I knew Esmeralda. Bu Freude, Mina. Bu Venus fired from Aca Gold, but too fake blond, Beatrice. Ro Freude and Mariana. Bu Venus for only average look, but I found a really pretty Romanian girl who would have been my first choice for my last visit on a Friday at big Sharks and also another pretty with beautiful green / grey / blue eyes Romanian girl. Both were really GFE and sensitive in room, more than 30 mn spent with a lot of foreplay and DFK, for only 30 €. The first one asked me to DATY her to make her cum, the second was a real volcano and didn't want to let me leave Verena, kissing me at desk, blond woman on desk was laughing, maybe she didn't want I went to play under big rain back to home, but it was really fun with Germans, Porsche couldn't play. No AO sex for me, but 2 pretty surprises for cheap rate.

[Craiova]

I decided to have my experience in deep Ruhr, remembering MSV Duisburg which was a good team, Gelsenkirchen Schalke 04 , Bochum, are. W. Essen and Wuppertal where I remember a great match between RFA and Sweden in Worldcup 1974 with a wonderful goal from Ralf Ekstroem versus Sepp Maier. Now, BVB, of course, with magic stadium, Bayern can't compete on this point.Haven't no idea what this has to do with P6 and FKK clubs but nevertheless some corrections. The worldcup 74 game RFA and Germamy was in Duesseldorf and the name of the Swedish scorer was Edstroem. And Bayern won't change Allianz Arena against Signal Iduna Park.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Snip. I found a really pretty Romanian girl who would have been my first choice for my last visit on a Friday at big Sharks and also another pretty with beautiful green / grey / blue eyes Romanian girl. Both were really GFE and sensitive in room, more than 30 mn spent with a lot of foreplay and DFK, for only 30 . The first one asked me to DATY her to make her cum, the second was a real volcano and didn't want to let me leave Verena, kissing me at desk, blond woman on desk was laughing, maybe she didn't want I went to play under big rain back to home, but it was really fun with Germans, Porsche couldn't play. No AO sex for me, but 2 pretty surprises for cheap rate.You found two girls to your standard at Verena? That is high praise. I will have to be sure to go there on my next trip.

[Sirioja]

You found two girls to your standard at Verena? That is high praise. I will have to be sure to go there on my next trip.I mean for look, 1 at Verena Dortmund. Also saw Alice. Ro who was also quite pretty face there before. The other, at Venus Duisburg, who is really pretty for my tastes, prettier than fake blond Mina. Bu with pointing tits. Another also at Venus, tall, slim, sitting just near towels was also not so bad look. No Mariana. Bu seen on this time.

Good surprise for look, real GF in room who seem to enjoy my foreplay and sex over the 25 mn for only 30 asked. Both asked, showing me condom, I asked them to give me, to put it by myself. I said to my Venus girl she could work in any normal club in Germany. At the moment, she would be my girl at Sharks or Oase, for my visits since September.

Unfortunately, bad level clubs, same for Arabella Bochum with ugly girls, and bad rooms, so you can't enjoy to take all your time in room, to contemplate beauty in daylight or beautiful light. Club at Moers is also bad level. Freude is higher for club. 30 € entry is too expensive for these clubs services, 100 for Globe worth more for services for me.

[Sirioja]

Haven't no idea what this has to do with P6 and FKK clubs but nevertheless some corrections. The worldcup 74 game RFA and Germamy was in Duesseldorf and the name of the Swedish scorer was Edstroem. And Bayern won't change Allianz Arena against Signal Iduna Park.When I'm in Germany, my experiences are not only about brothels. Each time, I go to GT or PHG, I try to go to Nordpark to remember the modern football German team when I learned to play football as a child. At this time, Bayern couldn't compete with my beloved forever Borussia, as the most faithful devil, same than with girls. At this time, Bayern couldn't buy all the best German players, as Bonhof, Schuster or Stielike, like now.

You are right, Ekstroem. Su is Mattias, one of my favorite pilot, my big mistake. In Sweden 1974 versus Germany, were goalkeeper Ronni Hellstroem playing I think also for Kaiserlautern and Ralf Edstrom who might also played in Bundesliga. I thought they played in Wuppertal and I always kept this town name in my mind. Same than remembering match when DDR defeated RFA, with Sparwasser, when Magdeburg was a great team.

Just my child memories, between brothels visits in deep Ruhr.

[Craiova]

When I'm in Germany, my experiences are not only about brothels. Each time, I go to GT or PHG, I try to go to Nordpark to remember the modern football German team when I learned to play football as a child. At this time, Bayern couldn't compete with my beloved forever Borussia, as the most faithful devil, same than with girls. At this time, Bayern couldn't buy all the best German players, as Bonhof, Schuster or Stielike, like now.

You are right, Ekstroem. Su is Mattias, one of my favorite pilot, my big mistake. In Sweden 1974 versus Germany, were goalkeeper Ronni Hellstroem playing I think also for Kaiserlautern and Ralf Edstrom who might also played in Bundesliga. I thought they played in Wuppertal and I always kept this town name in my mind. Same than remembering match when DDR defeated RFA, with Sparwasser, when Magdeburg was a great team.

Just my child memories, between brothels visits in deep Ruhr.Fine nice childhood memories that's ok, but why waste here server and user capacity with sharing your childhood memories. Should be enough you have these memories for your alone, believe me that isn't selfish. So really you can keep them for yourself when you driving with 250 km through Germany.

BTW would be difficult for good soccer childhood memories for French teams. St. Etienne was beaten in Champions League twice 75 and 76 in final and semi final by Bayern and French National Team started later with Platini for top class level.

[Sirioja]

Fine nice childhood memories that's ok, but why waste here server and user capacity with sharing your childhood memories. Should be enough you have these memories for your alone, believe me that isn't selfish. So really you can keep them for yourself when you driving with 250 km through Germany.

BTW would be difficult for good soccer childhood memories for French teams. St. Etienne was beaten in Champions League twice 75 and 76 in final and semi final by Bayern and French National Team started later with Platini for top class level.I think you like football like me and I write only about German teams or players, but can't forget Neeskens, Krol and Johny Metgod. NL, among my idols. When brothels are closed, from 5 am to 10 am, when people sleep, other pleasures to experience.

France defeated RFA with Sepp Maier in 1977.

I'm always surprised so many guys need to read me, to speak about me to girls, to speak about me to Danny Atlanta after I had only 1 room with her, she also couldn't understand guys speak about me. Just my own experiences and nobody will never live my passions. Just because I m different, also with girls, and I'm proud to be.

[Free Dude]

I mean for look, 1 at Verena Dortmund. Also saw Alice. Ro who was also quite pretty face there before. The other, at Venus Duisburg, who is really pretty for my tastes, prettier than fake blond Mina. Bu with pointing tits. Another also at Venus, tall, slim, sitting just near towels was also not so bad look. No Mariana. Bu seen on this time.

Good surprise for look, real GF in room who seem to enjoy my foreplay and sex over the 25 mn for only 30 asked. Both asked, showing me condom, I asked them to give me, to put it by myself. I said to my Venus girl she could work in any normal club in Germany. At the moment, she would be my girl at Sharks or Oase, for my visits since September.

Unfortunately, bad level clubs, same for Arabella Bochum with ugly girls, and bad rooms, so you can't enjoy to take all your time in room, to contemplate beauty in daylight or beautiful light. Club at Moers is also bad level. Freude is higher for club. 30 entry is too expensive for these clubs services, 100 for Globe worth more for services for me.So what is it with you, again mentioning girls that weren't there and "keeping" the girls you did like secret. [Deleted by Admin]

I guess you're talking about Ina and Riana, since Anna mostly sits elsewhere. For the record, no on here beliefs you go there for non AO sex. Didn't you say som time ago that it is the only reason to go to RTC clubs?

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[Sirioja]

So what is it with you, again mentioning girls that weren't there and "keeping" the girls you did like secret.I'm allowed to drive again in Germany since end of December and no news about Polizei about criminal complaint for driving without being allowed, for more than 2 years, but I didn't know I was not allowed and German Polizei had to make sure I understood, to respect my European rights, but they didn't, writing only in German to a French living in France, so, as they had to send me back earlier my driving licence, it would be quite easy if any criminal complaint. Answer: no respect of European rights, making sure You understood your prosecution.

Anyway, I thank you for your best wishes, I don't need to wish to anybody bad things, like I don't need to know with which girls you go and what You do with girls, just because I don't care about what you do or write, I m able to live my own experiences, but I would prefer to crash rather than catching and living or dying with HIV. I never visited Dietz yet, but I visited Anjelique in Viersen, then moving to Moers, Freude Bochum, Arabella Bochum, Verena for BVB Dortmund and Venus for MSV Duisburg. I really enjoyed my drive from Velbert through the Ruhr to remember my memories and under big rain when leaving Dortmund to Leverkusen, Audi versus Porsche boxter, then Panamera S, then Cayenne turbo S.

About AO sex, I had no problem to get at Sharks without extra, only for 100. I could have at World, GT, LR and Samya. I think I can have if I ask for, without any extra, but only my manners, so why taking big risks after so many guys in AO clubs? At Verena, she said to me on couch she doesn't work without condom, showing me condom, I felt safer. When she was kissing me, not letting me leave and making smile desk woman, I said to her I would try to come back, for her beautiful eyes and great behavior, before, in, over 25 mn but no more asked than 30 even on first time, and after room, from a quite pretty and lovely girl, I could go with, in big normal clubs. At Venus, she is really pretty for my tastes, that s just enough for my pleasure and I enjoyed she asked me to DATY and finger her to make her cum, with a cup of cyprine.

After Megan was too many times bullshit about me, I don't name some girls to avoid some readers go to speak to them about me, but everybody should be able to find own girls, rather than speaking about other guys, without being able to have same behavior and manners with women. I think they both found me very different from other clients, like Lucy. De, or Alice. Ro back at Globe.

[Downandup]

I'm counting down the days until my next Germany trip and want to make sure I have my facts correct about the current state of RTC clubs.

Freude charge 25 E entry, 30 E sessions, 10 E for extras and currently have a good sized lineup. All the rest are 30 E entry + 30 E sessions and still AO inclusive?

Grimberg.
Arabella.
Verena.
Romantika.
Luderland.

I believe that Airport and Annabella are closed?

I'm not worried about happy hour, if I happen to get there at the right time that's just a bonus. I doubt that I will go to Villa Venus or La Luna as I have too many places to check out.

[Myrrh]

You appear to be the only member going to these clubs in some time (or at least posting about visits to them) so thank you for your reports describing the (usually bleak) situation at these clubs. Glad to hear that Venus has improved. Will have to visit it when I am there in May.On a recent visit to Venus I was struck by the fact that they had removed ALL of the photo / name cards of the girls. This must have been a very recent move because EasyGoing didn't mention it and he is normally the gold standard when it comes to reporting on these kind of things.

This is the first time that I have been to a RTC club before where all of the photo-cards were removed and it made managing the visit much more difficult. A bit like asking a sniper to shoot by instinct without the benefit of his telescopic sights.

Many of the girls, particularly the more attractive ones, disappear sometimes for what often seems like hours so you could find yourself plugging the best girl that you see there only for a couple of far more attractive ones to turn up whilst you are away. Of course if you had known that there were potentially better ones around then you might have been tempted to wait.

[Optimist]

Myrrh. I never managed to identify any girl from the photos, so it's no loss for me. Probably a function of my eyesight rather than anything else.

I gather that Larissa is no longer at VV?

How was your visit?

Cheers.

[ExpatLover]

I'm counting down the days until my next Germany trip and want to make sure I have my facts correct about the current state of RTC clubs.

Freude charge 25 E entry, 30 E sessions, 10 E for extras and currently have a good sized lineup. All the rest are 30 E entry + 30 E sessions and still AO inclusive?

Grimberg.
Arabella.
Verena.
Romantika.
Luderland.

I believe that Airport and Annabella are closed?

I'm not worried about happy hour, if I happen to get there at the right time that's just a bonus. I doubt that I will go to Villa Venus or La Luna as I have too many places to check out.Yes and you forget to say they will fall in love, let us be serious all the clubs you are mentioning are the low end one, may be it will be good but most probably not so I advice you to visit some better one.

[Myrrh]

Myrrh. I never managed to identify any girl from the photos, so it's no loss for me. Probably a function of my eyesight rather than anything else.

I gather that Larissa is no longer at VV?

How was your visit?.Unfortunately with no name cards it was difficult to keep track of which girls were actually there. Although a dozen or so were supposed to be there that day there were only 3 to 4 in the lounge at any given time. These were heavily outnumbered by the 10 to 15 guys sitting around looking miserable who were often forced to sit two to a settee even though they did not know each other. Plus 2 or 3 more guys downstairs in the sauna or lying on the benches outside it.

[Downandup]

Did a trip to Leverkusen, same setup as the other RTC clubs but nice as it used to be an FKK. Globe. As usual the girls are a mixed set with a few good lookers. The cards show bad photos so you don't recognise the girls. Most importantly the service has not changed!

[EastGoing]

And full sex in public still goes on.
Unfortunately no new faces for me, but I tried Lisa and she was good beyond my expectations, her face is not that attractive, but if she smiles is ok. For the rest, Sofia ex-everywhere is back with too many kgs more, Seline is back as well but left her arsehole at home, she brought her ass back with a tattoo on her buttcheek which in those low lights looked like a bunch of pimples.
11 girls, few men even after 7 pm happy hour. One visit of a few hours is more than enough IMHO.

[Solo Traveler]

Hello,

I have a question regarding RTC clubs.

I know RTC women may not have attractive looks but with higher service than other Sauna clubs.

I have never tried RTCs, if I only want to experience one time, which club will you recommend?

I speak zero German, so need a club that receptionist and working women can communicate in English.

No other limits.

I like to explore new things.

Thanks.

[Christian G]

Seline is back as well but left her arsehole at homeSo no more anal with Seline?! Shame.

[Downandup]

I tried Lisa and she was good beyond my expectations.Yes, I found her to be good too I'd have tried someone else but the best girls were taken around midday.

[SneraDog]

Hello,

I have a question regarding RTC clubs.

I know RTC women may not have attractive looks but with higher service than other Sauna clubs.

I have never tried RTCs, if I only want to experience one time, which club will you recommend?

I speak zero German, so need a club that receptionist and working women can communicate in English.

No other limits.

I like to explore new things.

Thanks.Dietzenbach. Alice at the front desk and most girls do speak English. While strictly speaking not an RTC, it is essentially the same and the club with by far and away the largest number of girls who speak English. I am always very surprised how in the NRW clubs, a girl able to speak English is very much the exception-I am eternally grateful to my parents for signing me up for German classes when I was in school (admittedly, a very long time ago). It has greatly facilitated my mongering career.

[Downandup]

Dietzenbach. Alice at the front desk and most girls do speak English. While strictly speaking not an RTC, it is essentially the same and the club with by far and away the largest number of girls who speak English. I am always very surprised how in the NRW clubs, a girl able to speak English is very much the exception-I am eternally grateful to my parents for signing me up for German classes when I was in school (admittedly, a very long time ago). It has greatly facilitated my mongering career.In NRW Grimberg, Luderland and Arabella are good. I don't know more than a few words of German but not had a problem. Just show up with the entry price in hand, and then you will probably find that most girls speak a little English.

Don't expect to stay all day like an FKK, it's more a do your business and leave, people will either hang around for another session or leave.

[Ifouu]

Hello,

I have a question regarding RTC clubs.

I know RTC women may not have attractive looks but with higher service than other Sauna clubs.

I have never tried RTCs, if I only want to experience one time, which club will you recommend?

I speak zero German, so need a club that receptionist and working women can communicate in English.

No other limits.

I like to explore new things.

Thanks.Hello Solo Travelers,

I am not Germans and speak no words of German. Well I know a few words, but I am not able to make a correct sentence. I am not an english native speaker, but I have an average level, good enough.

I know those RTC: Grimberg, Arabella, Venus, Verena and the Freude39. I visited each one of them several times. Oh and I forgot another RTC near Frankfurt (in Dietzenbach), but I visited it only once. Not as much as some people here, because I live outside Germany. If you permit me to give you a piece of advice, I would suggest the Freude39. There is much more girls that any other FKK-RTC that I've cited above. So if you go there, my opinion is that you improve your chances to find a girl who speak english, just enough to ask for the services she provide.

But well, you should not limit yourself to only one club. You must visit others as well, to forge our own idea! .

[Member #4460]

I was just checking FKK Airport and Annabella and they are indeed, closed for repairs.

Anyone know where Sussi from Dietzenbach (and from Arabella's) went? I was told she left late January from Dietzenbach.

[ExpatLover]

So no more anal with Seline?! Shame.I don't believe she is just restricting it to some guys she is feeling quite confident with them, I have 2 girls like that at Oase that just do anal with a limited number of customers and never agree about it before being in the room and check the size of the penis. The young and pretty girls are not desperate to earn money so they can choose their customers and what they will do with them. Last time 2 black men ask me to introduce them to a girl that I know very well and I tried to convince them that she will no go to the room with black men, difficult to explain that to them, they tried alone and were rejected.

[Member #4460]

I was at Villa Romantika this morning at 10:00 am and NO Happy Hour!

There were only 4 girls (Maya, Nicolleta, Monika, and Lina) for the entry fee of 30! I took everyone but Maya. Still feel like I wasted 30! No food except apples and soda.

I ended up finishing the day at Arabella's and did the whole house except Maria.

[Myrrh]

I was at Villa Romantika this morning at 10:00 am and NO Happy Hour!
I took everyone but Maya.

I ended up finishing the day at Arabella's and did the whole house except Maria.Recently at a RTC I visited I found that they had removed all of the girl's photo and name cards leaving visitors with absolutely nothing to work on. I thought it was a strange move at the time but probably understandable now if they are coming across indiscriminate customers like yourself who bang the girls no matter what they look like.

[Member #4460]

Recently at a RTC I visited I found that they had removed all of the girl's photo and name cards leaving visitors with absolutely nothing to work on. I thought it was a strange move at the time but probably understandable now if they are coming across indiscriminate customers like yourself who bang the girls no matter what they look like.I'm not too sure if that's meant as an insult but I'll let that one slide (meaning, I won't kick your arse if I see you).
Who I go with or the reason for it is no one else's business but my own (just like I don't say, "Why the hell did ___ go with that whale?" even though I had every opportunity to say so but I'm not a dick!).
If I know the woman at the front desk well in some of these places, I feel more generous and session with more girls. If the woman at the front is a mean witch who yells at everyone, I don't go back to that house until it's okay. I do leave houses off of my trip that I don't like due to situations (such as Villa Venus and Villa Verena) but that's because of how things are run. Villa Venus is in a bad neighborhood and I would have to park somewhere safe if I dare go there while Verena just didn't have any girls that were worth sessioning with so I left that place really early!
I was going to do a field report right now but I guess I'll do it much later when I'm in a better mood.

[Member #4460]

Remember Lily from Villa Venus and M-Exclusiv, Buldern? (the one with the albino pussy and had a sister also working).

Well, she was in Arabella on March 26 as Maya (but no picture on the card). She told me her sister went back to Romania. She seems a lot happier now. I forgot to check if her picture is still in M-Exclusiv!

[Member #4460]

If you drive down to Buldern, you might miss it even with a GPS! Depending on the direction you are coming from, it's a few meters outside of town (but before the next town).

My GPS told me that I had reached my destination but I saw nothing but a gas station! I circled back and realized the house is behind the gas station (the gas price is more expensive than the gas station inside the town of Buldern)!

So I got there at 11:05 am, which the admissions is 4. 99€ (Happy Hour). The thekefrau didn't know much English so I pointed what I wanted on the TV monitor (that had the special prices 1 x 40€,2 x 70€,3 x 90€,4 x 100€). I picked the 4 x 100€!

Monica

Immediately, I chose a girl I haven't seen in the RTC for quite a while! I first saw this girl during my first visit to Arabella's back about two years ago. I heard she went to Freude 39 for a while and then disappeared. Here she was at M-Exclusiv as Monica (I know there was another Monica here once but it's not that one! She is petite, pale skin, dark black hair, and hazel eyes. She was as lovely as I remembered her back in Arabella's (but with better lighting in this place). She was new to this place and I went upstairs with her.

The usual "Mit gummi" or "No gummi" was asked but she knew which one I chose after recognizing my face! Her pussy was still tight, which made me cum inside her much quicker. I really enjoyed that session!

Ruby

She's been with M-Exclusiv for quite a while (since 2013, I believe). I provided an old picture (see attached picture) and she still looks the same! She's quite tall and still has light brown hair. She's covered (so "Mit gummi") but I didn't care. The session was okay, not spectacular, but okay.

Donna

Dark haired, not too chubby but not thin, Donna looks okay, She has a nice face but she made me do most of the work during sex. I had to come outside of her body ("No spritzen in here") which was fine. Wasn't that good but not bad for 25€.

Monica

I was allowed to do her again for my 4th session. Great session! I like how she grips my dick with her pussy!

Anyway, I couldn't get a club card (not a resident) and any extra session is 40€ (and I can't do another 4 x 100€ says the thekefrau) so I left in the late afternoon. I decided to see the other M-Exclusiv at Mnster but it look deserted (no cars). I didn't bother going in.

That's it for that day.

[Myrrh]

Remember Lily from Villa Venus and M-Exclusiv, Buldern? (the one with the albino pussy and had a sister also working).

Well, she was in Arabella on March 26 as Maya (but no picture on the card). She told me her sister went back to Romania. She seems a lot happier now. I forgot to check if her picture is still in M-Exclusiv!Indeed I do, WanderingGoo.

I recall my first ever visit to Venus. As it was a completely new place for me I loitered by the cafe machine taking my time making a coffee whilst using the opportunity to scan the room to get an idea of the layout of the place and more importantly what kind of girls were there. I had only been at the machine about 30 seconds when this girl started calling out Hello, to me repeatedly and then asking if I needed help. Before I answered she had sprung to her feet and had come over to show me how to work the coffee machine. She had a cute little bob haircut and a quirky grin like she had no teeth. It was Lily and she 'happened' to be sitting at the front row when this new guy walks in. It was a bit embarrassing to be shown how to work the cafe machine but I let her carry on making a fuss over making me a coffee whilst I sneaked little glances at the other girls in the room.

After she had made me the coffee she asked where I was sitting. Well nowhere, as I had just walked in. Before I could answer she pointed to the couch where was sitting and said that I should sit there. Now although I was new to Venus I wasn't a complete RTC novice and knew that you shouldn't sit with a girl unless you definitely had intentions of going with her. But again, before I could do anything she had already made the decision for me and walked over to her couch with my coffee pulled across a side table from another couch and plonked my coffee on it. Then she sat on the couch and patted the space beside me indicating that I should sit there. I was aware that the eyes of some of the other girls were on us so rather than embarrass her by picking up my coffee and walking away I decided to play along for the time being. Maybe we could have a little chat and I could find out some more information about the club and the girls.

I sat down on the couch deliberately leaving a sizeable gap between us and turned my back on her to take a few sips from the coffee on the side table. When I turned back suddenly the club had gone dark and something was blocking out the light. It was Lily's face. In the few moments that I had taken to drink my coffee she had closed the gap between us on the couch with one arm sliding slyly along the top of the couch behind me. Now with her face only cms from mine she was moving in for the kill, about to part my lips with her tongue for a deep, lingering French kiss.

Things were moving too fast for me and I jumped off the couch standing there like a startled gazelle. I could hear laughter coming from some of the other girls who had been watching and when I looked back at Lily she had a little, sheepish, wistful look on her face as if to say 'well now that didn't quite go according to plan did it'. From the looks of the other girls it seemed like they had seen this routine by Lily a few times. I was left standing there like a schoolgirl on her first date who had no idea that the guy was going to try something on. Anyway, I decided to have some time out, picked up my coffee and wandered around a bit before finding a spare couch.

Later after sizing up the other girls I realised that Lily was actually one of the better options looks wise. Slim, unlike many of the other girls, with a face which was a little cute. I thought I would probably have enjoyed seeing that bob haircut going up and down on my knob. So, I eventually chose her and teamed her up with another girl with a tattoo with a long inscription about her mother across the top of one of her breasts, whose name I can't remember.

In the room both girls bent over the bed for some doggie and Lily was particularly dry and tight, gasping as I entered. Then it was time to flip one of them for missionary. Lilly duly got on the bed and spread her legs which was when I got the shock of my life. A startlingly bleached ultra-white pussy. Everywhere else on her body was a normal skin tone except for the entire area of her pussy which had the colour of white mink. She must have seen the gob-smacked, horrified expression I had because her face fell and she looked completely crestfallen as if here was yet another customer who couldn't get over the fact that she had a little deformity. I quickly composed myself and smiled and said it was OK as I didn't want her to embarrass her over something that wasn't really her fault. It's OK? She asked and the cute little grin was back on her face. But it wasn't OK really. It kind of killed the mood for me and after that I concentrated mainly on the other girl in order to finish.

I was kicking myself for not noticing this before taking her to the room given that I had sat with her and seen her for a while in the club. But then I realised that she had always sat with her legs crossed when she was sitting naked on the couch. Then when she got up she would rise with her legs still crossed in the manner of a woman with a very short skirt on who doesn't want to reveal her panties. Also, she would walk around with the towel held in her hand just in front of her to shield her pussy from view.

On subsequent visits I would usually see her there and although I found her reasonably cute looking and she was always friendly I never took her again. Unfortunately, perhaps because of my lack of sophistication or maturity I am just unable to see past her deformity. It is not a big deformity but of all the places for it to be!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BmkBroiw1s

[Myrrh]

Indeed I do, WanderingGoo.Here's a link to a photo of Lily. Face, not pussy shot I'm afraid.


Prizes for guessing what name she was called before, what club she used to work at and where she is working now?

Plus, what was so special about her that made her grab the attention of any man whenever she chose to uncross her legs?

[Member #4460]

Here's a link to a photo of Lily. Face, not pussy shot I'm afraid.Maya (Lily) had no picture on her card (just MAYA on the card). I was looking at the line up and she came up to me from behind (because she recognized me from the three times I was ever in Villa Venus, two of which I did her on full display on the couch while the other I did a threesome with she and her sister). I usually overlook imperfections like Vitiligo because it's not contagious (I was actually looking up WebMD on my iPhone downstairs in Villa Venus just to make sure back then). She looks better than the picture but I think M-Exclusiv used a different picture than that (with the house background) when she and her sister were working there.

That day in Arabella, it was easy to do the whole house (except Maria). There was Ariana, Alexandra, Carmen (who actually slimmed down a little bit), Sonia (part Indian, part Romanian), Sabrina, Anastasia, Emma (skinny new girl that only does covered), and Maya (Lily). I think the girls that were present looked halfway decent (except Maria). I probably would not have done Anastasia and Sabrina had I not known them for two years.

Two girls left (Erika and Amira) after one had a stomach ache (I think Erika had the stomach ache).

So why do I try to do as many as humanly possible? It's because of those stupid condom laws that will be enforced! I don't know what's going to happen with these RTC places after July but I might as well make the best of it now at the 30€ price before it goes away!

[Myrrh]

If you drive down to Buldern, you might miss it even with a GPS! Depending on the direction you are coming from, it's a few meters outside of town (but before the next town).

My GPS told me that I had reached my destination but I saw nothing but a gas station! I circled back and realized the house is behind the gas station (the gas price is more expensive than the gas station inside the town of Buldern)!

So I got there at 11:05 am, which the admissions is 4. 99 (Happy Hour). The thekefrau didn't know much English so I pointed what I wanted on the TV monitor (that had the special prices 1 x 40,2 x 70,3 x 90,4 x 100). I picked the 4 x 100!

She's covered (so "Mit gummi") but I didn't care. The session was okay, not spectacular, but okay.Can't believe this place is still charging the outdated 1234 X pricing structure that virtually all of the other RTCs eventually gave up on a couple of years ago. It is a complete and total punt with your money into the unknown unless you can find out with surety before you enter what the girls look like and what they are prepared to do.

Travelling all that way into the outbacks to end up having full AO sex with just one girl for me would have represented a complete and total waste of time and money even if the sex worked out at 26.25 euros per girl, once you had taken into account the low entrance charge. This place with it's club card and non-English speaking theke seems geared only towards locals. I am sure that if you were a local that you would have had no trouble getting full AO spritzen with all the girls.

I was aiming to visit as many of the RTCs as possible before July but this particular place and it's sister club are going to remain firmly off the radar.

[OutlawIsOne]

I was thinking of going to villa Venus the first week in June any ideas if AO will still be offered and any better places to get it easy and cheap. I have been here once before as it was easy and worked out well.

[Member #4460]

Can't believe this place is still charging the outdated 1234 X pricing structure that virtually all of the other RTCs eventually gave up on a couple of years ago. It is a complete and total punt with your money into the unknown unless you can find out with surety before you enter what the girls look like and what they are prepared to do.
I was aiming to visit as many of the RTCs as possible before July but this particular place and it's sister club are going to remain firmly off the radar.I'm glad there were pretty girls here during my visit. This is actually my 2nd time at M-Exclusiv (the last time, my sessions were ruined by this pushy fat girl, Simona, who jumped on my penis while I was just sitting down)!

When M-Exclusiv II- Club Haus was around, there was free admissions and the 1234 x pricing. I waited for the girls to come out (I asked the male bartender to call them out) and they were all ugly! The bartender said, "We have food!" and I saw a fly leave one of the open sandwiches at the exact moment I turned my head to see it! Then I walked out the door. One of the ugly girls touched the back of my neck to nudge me out faster and they closed the door on me. I felt so horrified with Club Haus that I drove to Freude 39 as fast as I could! Raissa was still there at that time so I felt better.

[JhRogers17]

I was wondering if any electronic devices (phone or tablet) might be allowed in any RTC clubs? The last time I visited the RTC clubs I was a bit bored during my recovery times (if there wasn't any good public action going on) and was told I could not use my phone at all. I was hoping to read a book or the news on it. Do any of the RTC clubs allow electronics, maybe in a designated area? I understand why they wouldn't. I'm planning on bringing a good book, in any case. Thanks to everyone who shares on this board. What a resource!All the FKK clubs I've been to don't allow you to openly use electronics like phones or tablets B/ C they're afraid of you taking pictures or w / e.

[Myrrh]

This week extra large sized posters have been going up on the walls of the RTC clubs with ominous warnings to patrons concerning their future conduct.

The exact translation is beyond the capabilities of this particular visitor who is unable to even count from one to two in German. However I can reveal that there are parts of the warning written in capital letters and in red ink (with exclamation marks)!

The bits that I can recall:

Draussen! (Outside).

Internet.

Positive other negative.

Hausverbot (house ban).

Piecing it all together, it would appear that word has reached the RTC owners that various internet scribes have been talking sh* about the girls that are working in their clubs. When exactly it has come to their attention is not clear because as we know this has been happening for some time, probably from when this whole forum first started? Identified offenders may be left waiting outside the gate to hear that familiar buzzing noise from the electronic lock which may never seem to come for them.

So from now on my reports will be about the flower arrangements and lighting in the clubs and the food that is provided, and nothing else.

[Hessen Bub]

The owners are trying to ban bad reports from boards but what is a lot more important, they don't want any AO reports anymore as it will cause trouble for the clubs from July.

HB.

[Downandup]

All the FKK clubs I've been to don't allow you to openly use electronics like phones or tablets B/ C they're afraid of you taking pictures or w / e.That may be the rule generally but I've used my phone in quite a few places in NRW, openly in Living Room, Golden Time and Acapulco. I've walked into Golden Time with a tablet in my hand, the staff could easily have stopped me and they didn't, I've also seen the odd guy with a laptop. Other clubs have places where it's not a problem in areas like the garden or reception, and yes I've seen signs elsewhere that phones are Verboten.

Woops! Just realised which section I posted in. RTC clubs are different and any club where the girls walk around nude will be more restrictive.

[Sirioja]

This week extra large sized posters have been going up on the walls of the RTC clubs with ominous warnings to patrons concerning their future conduct.

The exact translation is beyond the capabilities of this particular visitor who is unable to even count from one to two in German. However I can reveal that there are parts of the warning written in capital letters and in red ink (with exclamation marks)!

The bits that I can recall:

Draussen! (Outside).

Internet..Not same problem about new law, but Sharks short Turkish manager was said by a German guy who dreams to make me being fired from Sharks, I write bad reports about Sharks, but he failed, I m still welcome to pay entry and with girls I choose when I find one fuckable among plenty of GND. Money is business.

New law may not help German clubs and WGs there, business. YY NL may become BBBJ Eldorado, for 50.

[Member #4460]

The owners are trying to ban bad reports from boards but what is a lot more important, they don't want any AO reports anymore as it will cause trouble for the clubs from July.

HB.I would understand about AO reports but this isn't the only forum that ever mentions this (there's also the ones in German that I could easily access at any free wi-fi place). Anyway, no problem with that! If they ask not to mention it, I won't mention it again in reports!

About the reports on some girls, if they're good, people say good things about them and others want to try them! I know I've tried some girls based on good reviews of some girls (usually I agree but then other times, I wonder if I'm fucking the same girl they gave such a rave review of)! But if there are girls who try to cheat people or rush the time, people have to be warned about them! No one wants to be the victim of being cheated (especially some of those who are first timers) because that person would have a bad impression of the club as one bad experience can ruin a whole day at any place!

Take that new girl, Nicole, from Freude 39, for example. She starts off cheating customers, and even tells her friends about it. Cindy and other girls, who may have heard Nicole brag about it, tried to do this to some people and then you have several girls in Freude 39 trying to cheat people and thinking that they can get away with it! The day I first saw Nicole, she went in the room with several customers but I noticed each person she went with (after I tried her), she looked at her money that she was given and demanded more from the customers, which they grudgingly gave out and then left right away out of anger! You should have seen some of their expressions on their faces! Nicole would go back to her couch and (with a smile) start talking to the girls (where laughter follows as if she did something and got away with it)! Even if Nicole's customers are the "one and done" type of people, no one wants their "one" to be a bad experience because those people might not want to return there again! There are other RTC places within a few miles and they can go there instead! If that was allowed to continue, Freude 39 would lose business from angry customers!

As far as the forum goes, warning others helps people avoid the bad girls who give people a bad impression of the club. It also humbles some of the girls who tried to cheat people and then they stop doing that. Take Cindy as that example. Even though she usually tries to persuade people for more time (30 minutes instead of 20), she never tried to cheat people until she was influenced by Nicole. Ever since some of the customers (not just me but I did persuade a few of the victims to come forward) reported the problem girls to management, Cindy stopped trying to cheat customers and is back to normal!
Now if you tried Cindy at the beginning out April and you didn't get cheated, you're welcome! The problem was reported and taken care of before it became out of hand! I'm sure Cindy's business will pick back up again as she seemed to be okay when I last saw her.

Maybe Nicole still works there but I doubt she'll try to cheat people after being reported to management! The last time I saw her, she wasn't talking to the other girls and was alone (where the first time I saw her, she was socializing with some of the girls as if they were best friends)! One has to wonder, is making an extra 20 to 30 euros cheating each of your customers worth it if you will no longer have any customers or friends (because your co-workers would stay away from you) if you're reported to management? Being new, she doesn't have enough "satisfied" and loyal customers like Cindy has to actually have returning customers but who knows? Maybe after this humbling experience, she might bounce back and be one of the good ones later on. People change and others are forgiving so anything is possible!

[Hessen Bub]

That may be the rule generally but I've used my phone in quite a few places in NRW, openly in Living Room, Golden Time and Acapulco. I've walked into Golden Time with a tablet in my hand, the staff could easily have stopped me and they didn't, I've also seen the odd guy with a laptop. Other clubs have places where it's not a problem in areas like the garden or reception, and yes I've seen signs elsewhere that phones are Verboten.

Woops! Just realised which section I posted in. RTC clubs are different and any club where the girls walk around nude will be more restrictive.Oase let's you use the phone almost everywhere. It's not being a fully nude club or not, generally it's more or less NRW sauna clubs only (with a fe exceptions) who allow to use you phone all over the club.

HB.

[Member #4460]

Oase let's you use the phone almost everywhere. It's not being a fully nude club or not, generally it's more or less NRW sauna clubs only (with a fe exceptions) who allow to use you phone all over the club.

HB.I see people go to the outside area with their iPhones at Arabella and Romantika. Another person I saw had an iPhone near the couch by the restroom at the front of Arabella as well. I don't know if that's really allowed though.

The only time I saw the thekefrau say anything was when an old man had his iPhone light on while I was with Bonnie (from Freude 39) out in the open and fucking her (almost as if he was recording us) when she was at Arabella the previous year. The thekefrau didn't find any videos or pictures of us though but you can never tell who's recording you at any time with their iPhones!

[Member #4585]

Not same problem about new law, but Sharks short Turkish manager was said by a German guy who dreams to make me being fired from Sharks, I write bad reports about Sharks, but he failed, I m still welcome to pay entry and with girls I choose when I find one fuckable among plenty of GND. Money is business.One foreign man was given a prohibition from club Wellcum in Austria since he write bad review in several forums about the club. The club knew the connection between his club name and him and his reports held much sway over the foreign clientele who frequent Wellcum.

[Member #4460]

Here it is! I hope posting this doesn't give away anyone's identity (especially my own)!
I wonder if the owners will be reviewing their security footage to see if anyone with an iPhone taking a picture of this sign in the Men's locker room of Freude 39 just to expose me?

Anyway, roughly translated, it says:

Hello forum colleagues.
Who writes, who remains.

OUTSIDE !!!

The ladies do not want any reports about themselves on the Internet.
Neither positive nor negative.
We ask you to respect this.

All the writers, who continue to spread their sick garbage, are exposed and will be
Banned!

A cavalier enjoys and is silent.

In this sense.
Have fun,
and be nice to each other.

[Member #4585]

That sign if pretty clear that the club does not want reports written on the internet.

[Sirioja]

These clubs know clients attend only because of AO sex provided, which will be forbidden on 1st July. These clients won t go anymore if no more AO sex, so it will become undercoat, in closed rooms, after 1st July. Better and easier to keep on this business, if no more reports about AO sex or BBBJ provided, just meeting pretty, sweet, dreamed girls. Just be clever enough guys, and good pleasure will go on with girls who need business and money. That s why, as they ask me, I never write about my rooms with my regulars, only lovely behavior in a beautiful room, more is private between her and me.

[Member #4460]

That sign if pretty clear that the club does not want reports written on the internet.It may be a co-incidence but have you notice that the sign was put up in Freude 39 not long after I reported about that new girl, Nicole, trying to cheat customers, to this forum?

Management needs to ask themselves if they need to keep the trouble making girls who are cheating some customers and ruining their business due to dissatisfaction or should they ban those trouble making girls and keep both the honest girls and their customers happy?

Sometimes, one bad session for a customer by a cheating and dishonest working girl can ruin the customer's whole day and then he leaves the club frustrated and angry! Any potential business that customer might have with other working girls that day are also ruined because of that one dishonest working girl who thought of no one but herself! Now if the customer was a first timer, he might get the wrong impression about the club thanks to that one dishonest working girl! Nicole had a lot of customers that day and I observed (after I went with her) that they were unhappy and most of the left the club without going to other the girls!

Despite being reported, Nicole was given another chance but she is watched by management (any more complaints and she's out). If she feels she's treated unfairly due to a bad field report on this or any other forum. She has herself to blame! Forum writers usually tell rave reviews of the girls and if she decides to be a dishonest cheat, she must suffer the consequences of other people knowing what she did so that they can avoid her or approach her "with caution" whenever they see her. So why not play fair with your customers? The biggest reward is that your customers come back to you happy instead of pass you over because there are other girls in the club that are honest and will not take advantage of you!

I have to admit, lately, I've been skipping over that little section of couches by the other drink station just to avoid those girls because of Nicole (even though the girls rotate where they sit). Maybe they have suspicion on who I am but aren't too sure (which is why I haven't been banned yet) but taking a picture of the sign in the locker room might have given me away (if they review any security footage)! There's also another sign by the Kino door entrance but too obvious! I'll keep visiting like I always do but will not do any more field reports (good or bad, but usually good) unless there's another dishonest working girl who's trying to rip off customers!

[Free Dude]

For each report here, there are dozens on local forums. In addition to that the locals make up 95% of the clients. I wouldn't be surprised if they hadn't even heard about ISG there.

[Ifouu]

You may be right WanderingGroo, but I think that FreeDude has a point here. I am not sure they ever heard about ISG.

And I think Sirioja makes another very good point: They no longer what someone to report AO. As a consequence, they want to be no longer associated with it, after the law takes effect in July. I guess we must read between the lines here: please stop report AO or make reference to it, even vaguely / remotely / indirectly or even with hidden allusion to it.

[Myrrh]

1. Timing:

The new law does not come in to being for at least another 2 months. Why should we cease all discussion of AO sex in the clubs immediately when it is not illegal in any way shape or form to creampie all the girls in a club right now after enjoying a BBBJ from them and won't be all the way up until 23:59 on June 30th? By agreeing to the wishes of the clubs right now we are missing out on 2 months of highly useful AO reporting when we don't really need to.

2. Total reporting ban.

The clubs want us to report absolutely nothing about the girls in the club, "neither negative or positive". So a total reporting black out. Why? They are using the fact that there is concern about the new law to blackmail or bully us into agreeing to not making any comment about what happens in the club with the girls. Therefore if you want to know what is happening in the club, like whether there any attractive girls and what services they provide, then the only way to find out would be visit the club yourself and part with 30 or 40 euros for the privilege. I doubt whether the club will give you your money back if you are disappointed with your visit. A disappointment along with your wasted money and time that you could have avoided if you had read a report about the club.

Usually if I visit a club then I won't be able to visit another club that day if I am disappointed because the clubs take time to travel between using public transport and I can't afford to spend money on two entry fees plus extra tram / train costs. 30/40 euros entry doesn't sound a lot but it is the type of money that I often spend on a hotel room in Germany for the night!

3. In English please.

I think some guys are flattering themselves if they think that club owners are eagerly reading their reports on ISG and immediately taking action on the basis of them. Unfortunately these clubs are geared completely towards locals who provide maybe 99% of the trade coming through the door. Which is why the warning on the posters in the clubs was posted in German and no other languages. If the club owners really want me to follow any directives from them then they should at least do me the courtesy of posting what they want me to do in a language that I have a chance of understanding. Or if they really thought that ISG reports are a particular problem for them then why not come on here and state their case? At least this would force them to explain their position in English and not German.

[Member #4460]

I think I told you of the time some old German guy who says he reads all the forums including International Sex Guide but he also claims he's part owner of these FKKs like Arabella, Annabella, Grimberg, etc. About one or two years ago.

Also, another time ISG was brought up was when some British person was looking at his iPhone at GoldenTime and one girl (I forgot her name but I think it was Nadja) said to that man, "Don't look at that site! Bad site!" and then I said, "Wait! What's your name?" and she kept saying she's better than what was said about her in the site. As a sucker, I went with her and found that she was okay (not the best but okay). Then I took out my iPhone when we got to the locker and went to ISG and looked her up and saw that she had rave reviews and I said to her, "You have good reviews, you're not bad at all!" and she just smiled.

[ExpatLover]

I think I told you of the time some old German guy who says he reads all the forums including International Sex Guide but he also claims he's part owner of these FKKs like Arabella, Annabella, Grimberg, etc. About one or two years ago.

Also, another time ISG was brought up was when some British person was looking at his iPhone at GoldenTime and one girl (I forgot her name but I think it was Nadja) said to that man, "Don't look at that site! Bad site!" and then I said, "Wait! What's your name?" and she kept saying she's better than what was said about her in the site. As a sucker, I went with her and found that she was okay (not the best but okay). Then I took out my iPhone when we got to the locker and went to ISG and looked her up and saw that she had rave reviews and I said to her, "You have good reviews, you're not bad at all!" and she just smiled.For me what is important is to get global infos about LU, ratio men to women etc. But I never will choose a girl because of the report, the chemistry between people is the key to have fun in the room and this cannot be bought. Some of us like porno stars, other more romantic and GFE, in the big clubs there are always enough girls to find the right ones.

[Neurosynth]

I really hope we don't have a board war where half of the posters are yelling at the other posters who post about AO.

If you choose to not post about AO that's just fine. It's your decision. But if we get a bunch of self-appointed enforcers, the outcome will only be a huge increase in noise. And that will have the general effect of turning off those with truly useful information.

In other words if if BB-whatever becomes a forbidden topic, the board loses value. And if those who post about BB-whatever are incessantly attacked for doing so, the board loses value. *That* is the most likely damage to be done.

On the other hand I doubt posts on this board will do much actual damage to the clubs. Guys tend to have an inflated sense of how important to others these boards are. Anonymous posts on a board have little to no legal weight for direct prosecution. And as "clues" that the authorities might follow up on? The local authorities don't need English-speaking tourists to tell them about the sex clubs in their own back yard. They already know, and will continue to know, what goes on in given clubs.

[Neurosynth]

And I suppose I'm just dreaming to think that folks will have discipline as to what gets posted where. But it sure would be nice if all the posts about "to post AO or not" were made in the General Info topic and not a dozen different place specific threads.

[Member #4460]

And I suppose I'm just dreaming to think that folks will have discipline as to what gets posted where. But it sure would be nice if all the posts about "to post AO or not" were made in the General Info topic and not a dozen different place specific threads.Why don't we have our own little code? Let covered sex be called "lousy Merkel" and bbj and uncovered sex be called "no lousy Merkel"!

For example: "I had a great time at Arabella and Grimberg with my favorite girls and no lousy Merkel to interfere with my sessions!

"The new girl at Arabella insists on having lousy Merkel during sex. ".

Just a thought!

[Hessen Bub]

Why don't we have our own little code?

Just a thought!Great idea. You post the key to the code here in public for everybody, we use the code and nobody will know you are writing about BBBJ or BBFS.

HB.

[Member #4460]

Freiercafe already took their AO clubs forum posts down about 2 days ago.

Damn! That's one of the few sites I can access at McDonald's free internet (I can't access ISG there)!

[ExpatLover]

Freiercafe already took their AO clubs forum posts down about 2 days ago.

Damn! That's one of the few sites I can access at McDonald's free internet (I can't access ISG there)!Try with a VPN can work, or by a Ortel SIM card quite cheap and use the hotspot.

[Myrrh]

Even if you believe that we should stop making posts about AO in the clubs, stopping the posts right now when AO in the clubs is not banned in any way is like paying your tax bill months before you need to thus missing out on a significant amount of interest that you could otherwise have earned. Simply silly.

[Craiova]

Freiercafe already took their AO clubs forum posts down about 2 days ago)!Yep that's true. Quite sure other German boards will do the same.

[Hessen Bub]

Freiercafe already took their AO clubs forum posts down about 2 days ago.

Damn! That's one of the few sites I can access at McDonald's free internet (I can't access ISG there)!They actually deleted all forum they had about RTC clubs. Completely. The new law (effective July) can't be the reason for that.

HB.

[Craiova]

They actually deleted all forum they had about RTC clubs. Completely. The new law (effective July) can't be the reason for that.Why not the new law? Clubs aren't allowed anymore to make ads for BBBJ or BBFS. And reports at boards ofc are ads for clubs and for BBFS and BBBJ and FC is financed most likely from clubs. And therefore to avoid trouble with the clubs FC deleted all AO club reports. And is it only RTC clubs? What about for other AO clubs like DVR or LaLuna?

[Hessen Bub]

Because the law is effective July. The clubs will adjust their advertising and service. Nothing illegal there. So why delete the respective forums on a P6 board?

HB.

[Timmy99]

Think I posted about this before. Decided to try Grimberg again. Apparently does have a new "no negro" policy. Not sure if that's management, or whatever idiot-chick answers the door. But this is twice, both times a girl I had never seen before (been there a few times). First time however the lady who takes the entrance fee came to the door and refused to let me in. Odd since she knows me, and has happily taken my money in the past Maybe someone complained? Same thing happen at goldentime (my fault tho) should have researched it better. Intermittently happens at Living room.

Odd thing happened at F39 yesterday. A girl who always had a "no chocolate " thing in the past. Decided I was OK and F'd my brains out. She said the girls talk and have decided I'm "good".

At any rate, weird few days. Happy hunting.

[BigBuddy69]

Because of the warnings given by the owners on the club probably. The threat of "hausverbot" if you write about those clubs on a board.

Freiercafe removed some years ago all the posts about bareback.