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Traffic777
09-25-06, 18:12
I'm a big fan of LaLinea and can always find somebody worth spending $5.33 on (I splurge for "sin ropa", that's why it's double the rate). I recommend Pension Meza few blocks down the road for cheap and safe accomodation, it's a backpackers' hotel.
I want to spend this November in Guate, but can't find any tickets from Seattle for less than $600 rt. Is anyone aware of a better deal?
Would love to met some of you guys down there for a couple of hundred cervezas and muchachas.
Gents and Dodger Bulldog:
I will be in GC next week on a very tight schedule. I have RTFF carefully and came up with the following synopsis. I would really appreciate if someone would check veracity (poss. also fill in the blanks so we can start a list) and give me a ranking for the clubs listed so I can move fast.
As with all Mongers I like hot chicas (especially spinners) and cheap - so a compromise is on the cards. Mens Club, Venus and Paradise look like good ground, but I am not afraid of moving up. I really dislike pushy Chica drink establishments!
Platino's
Cover, Q; Chica Drink, Q; Room, UNK; Chica Q600 (on premises 30 mins.) Salida, UNK.
Address:
Le Club (30 minute drink interval and pushy!!)
Cover, Q; Chica Drink, Q100; Room, UNK; Chica Q600 (on premises 30 mins.) Salida, UNK.
Recommende: Nanni, Vivian
Address: Zone 4, around the corner from Oro Solido, one block from the Conquistador Hotel
Mens Club:
Cover, Q; Chica Drink, Q; Room, UNK; Chica Q320 (on premises 30 mins.) Salida, UNK.
Address: Address: 3 Ave 10-37, Zona 9
Not Recommended, Lorena.
Venus:
Cover, none; Chica Drink, Q40; Room, UNK; Chica Q300 (on premises); Salida; Q1,000 (??).
Recommended, Esmerelda, Mariella, Denise.
Address: 2 Av 11-10, Zona 9
Paradise Club (manager Juan Carlos)
Cover, Q; Chica Drink, Q50; Room, UNK; Chica Q400 (on premises 30 mins.) Salida, UNK.
Recommended, Karen, Janessi. Not Recommended: Yanelita.
Address: 6a Avenida 12 Calle, Zona 9 (conflicts with a report by PhotoTime; 2nd Ave #11-10, Zone 9)
Cats: (may have gringo tax)
Cover, Q35; Chica Drink, Q100; Room, UNK; Chica Q400 (on premises 30 mins.) Salida, UNK.
Recommended: Melani. Not Recommended: Jennifer.
Address: 3 A Calle between 4 Ave and 5 Ave in Zona 9
Capricho's: (Russian invasion)
Cover, Q35; Chica Drink, Q100; Room, UNK; Chica Q600 (on premises 30 mins.) Salida, UNK.
Recommended, Dalia.
Address: 5th Ave #13-69, Zone 9, 8p - 1a,
Elite (avoid)
Zona 1, 2: Dangerous after dark
Zona 4, 9, 10: OK, after dark
Gracias por todo!
Polv
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Dodger Bulldog
09-29-06, 00:07
Povo,
Obviously you are a very avid and thorough reader!
A couple notes: Only Elite has a cover charge, $25 (yes, dollars).
None of the clubs charge extra for a room. Most have a mamasita who expects a tip. Q10-15 is plenty. My best advice is to tip her BEFORE the session, and whisper in her ear “un poco mas tiempo, por favor.” Once I began to do that, I never heard the dreaded “knock at the door” again.
As for chica drinks, at the Men's Club they are the same price as your own drinks, which start at Q25 for a beer. How cool is that?
Many of these girls will be gone, of course. Here are the ones that I know about:
Melani at Cats had returned to Nicaragua in June, but had done this before. Pray that she may have returned.
Esmerelda was no longer at Venus. I heard she went to another club, but it was not one that I frequented.
I think you will find Karen at the Men’s Club rather than Paradiso, but she does move back and forth between them. She is older, but very friendly, and speaks English pretty well. Be sure to tell her that you are a friend of Eric, her “boyfriend” and true love!
You have finally inspired me to give out my awards, which I have been meaning to do for some time. I might as well post them now so that you can use them.
Stay tuned.
DB
Dodger Bulldog
09-29-06, 01:29
I have now been forced back to the States for almost three months. Without further delay, I would like to rate my experiences from my year in Guatemala. This post will focus on the club categories.
Without further adieu, here are the Dodger Bulldog “Doing It Doggie Style Awards,” for the Best of the Best!
“Man’s Best Friend Award” -Best Overall Value
1. Men’s Club
2. Venus
3. Paradiso
“French Poodle Award” - Hottest Chicas
1. Platinos
2. Le Club
3. Caprichos
“Golden Retriever Award” - Friendliest Chicas
1. Venus
2. Men’s Club
3. Paradiso
“Chihuahua Award” - Most Spinners
1. Platinos
2. Le Club
3. Paradiso
“Typical Mutt Award” - Most Representative Local Club
1. Men’s Club
2. 10-54
3. Venus
“Sam’s Club Brand® Dog Food Award” - Cheapest Drinks/No Pressure
1. 10-54
2. Men’s Club
3. Venus
“Low Maintenance Award” Lowest Price for Servicio
1. 10-54
2. Venus
3. Men’s Club
"Milkbone Award" - Most Fake Tits
1. Caprichos
2. Le Club
“Adopt-A-Pet Award” - Lowest Price for Take-out
1. Venus Q600-800
2. Men’s Club
“Puppy Love Award” – Youngest, Freshest, Most Wholesome Chicas
1. Platinos
2. Venus
3. Cats (sometimes)
And on the other end of the spectrum, here are my “Dog Shit” Awards, for the Worst of the Worst:
“Drown These Puppies In the River Award” – Too Ridiculously Expensive to Even Consider
1. Elite
2. Samba Club
“Alpo Award” – Most Expensive for Drinks and Servicio
1. Caprichos
2. Le Club
3. Platinos
“Police Dog Award” – Obnoxiously Pushy for Drinks
1. Le Club (none others are even close)
2. Cats
3. Platinos
“Cream of the Crap Award” – Only Worth a Visit if You Struck Out Everywhere Else
1. Cats
2. Extasis
3. Oro Solido
“Don’t Step In Shit Award” – Real Hell Holes
1. Le Jardin
2. Baron Rojo
3. Queens
And In a Class by Themselves:
“Mythical Beast Award”
Zeus – A club in Zona 10 reputed to have incredibly hot Colombianas, albeit quite expensive ones. I asked directions from many people and searched for it many times, but never could find it.
“Howling At the Moon Award”
Casa Maruchas, supposedly the preeminent brothel of its day, which I looked for many times before learning it had been burned to the ground a few years ago by the owner’s son, for religious reasons.
“Saggy Teats Award” Self-explanatory
Casablanca
“Rabies Shot Award”
La Linea, a collections of shacks along an abandoned rail line where you can be serviced for as low as Q20 ($3). You should go to experience the ambience, but if you decide to get involved, be sure to wear double raincoats!
And Last, But Least:
“Junkyard Dog Award” The Biggest, Ugliest, Fattest, Meanest Chicas in all of Guatemala, If Not the Entire World:
ANY club in the city of Xela!!! (Quetzaltenango)
DB
“Chihuahua Award” - Most Spinners
1. Platinos
2. Le Club
3. Platinos
DBDodger:
Thanks - I will run a rating for commonality and see who comes out on top.
A few, possibly dumbass, questions:
Is the above correct for 1 and 3?
Is Platino's the same as the Patinum Club?
Do you have an address for Platino's?
Sorry you are back in Sex Prison - will you get a chance to escape at all?
Thanks
Polvo
Dodger Bulldog
09-30-06, 01:29
Thanks for catching that, I fixed it now. You have quite a future as a proofeader!
Platinos is Spanish for Platinum. It is at 5th Calle 2-37, Zone 9.
DB
Thanks for catching that, I fixed it now. You have quite a future as a proofeader!
Platinos is Spanish for Platinum. It is at 5th Calle 2-37, Zone 9.
DBPerfect, thanks. I understand they have a sign outside that says "Platinum" in English, hence my momentary confusion!
Polvo
Dodger Bulldog
09-30-06, 05:16
Polvo and others,
I would recommend that you may want to seek out any or all of these chicas:
Jackelyn (Paradiso). A stunning beauty.
I had told Juan Carlos, the manager: “I want a young, slender girl with a tiny ass, firm breasts, and the face of an angel, who is incredibly wild in bed. Someone I can talk to, have fun and laugh with, who I find to be friendly and intelligent. She should have lots of money, too”
He immediately brought Jackelyn to me. Well, perhaps I've known more intelligent chicas, and instead of saving her money she tends to spend it all getting her hair styled three times a week. But other than that, Juan Carlos hit a bullseye for me!
She is 23, with a luscious body (especially her abs and ass), soft and creamy bronze skin, a breathtaking face, and dancing eyes. Although she's a bit high maintenance, but she can be TOTALLY uninhibited. She might look like a sweet and innocent “goodie-two-shoes” but on my first night with her she shocked me by delivering the most wild porn-star sex I’ve ever had.
Jackelyn lapped up my cum and played with it on her tongue while letting it drool over her face, before sucking it back into her mouth to swallow it all down. Then she gave me a second pop as she rolled over, stuck her ass up into the air and initiated anal without my even asking.
I did her maybe ten times, and though she never again rocked my world quite like that first night, she was always a real treat in bed.
The other girls in the club nicknamed her “Thalia,” after the Mexican bombshell singer/novella star. And when they speak about Jackelyn, it is with reverence and awe.
You ask why I had not mentioned her in my previous posts? Hmmm, could I have been selfishly saving such pure pleasure all for myself while I was there?
Other recommendations not previously mentioned:
Alia (Le Club). Very hot, young, and wild, but she loves to suck down your drinks and soak up your money. Take her to the back room immediately to preserve cash. You won’t be sorry.
Erika (Men’s Club). Not a stunner, but young and friendly and very willing. I still recall how deeply she stuck her tongue up my ass!
Alma (SW, corner of 6 Avenida and 11 Calle, Zona 9). A tiny little bundle of energy. Out of curiosity I had to measure and weigh her, and learned that she stands 4'0" and is all of 80 pounds. I found her to be quite fetching, as well as bubbly, innocent, and fun, fun, fun! The first thing she asked when we got home was if I had any porno movies of blondes with big tits that she could watch. She hung out for 16 hours and gave me three pops for only Q300.
Marcela (Platinos). A sweet, lovely, soft-spoken and very sultry Nica with a perfect spinner body. A very bright chica who can talk politics, medicine, and baseball with you. She told me that her favorite team is the Diamondbacks, because they broke the Yankees streak in 2001 and the Yankees haven’t won the World Series since. I was so impressed that I gave her my Randy Johnson bobblehead doll (in an Arizona uniform). How is that for stimulating conversation? But watch out, she can’t handle her scotch worth a shit. And she has a boyfriend who called several times trying to figure out where I lived.
I don’t have a photo of Alia, but below you will find:
1. Jackelyn (this is not a good photo of her, as it makes her face look a little pudgy. She is much hotter in real life); 2. & 3. Erika; 4. & 5. Alma; 6. & 7. Marcela; and two favorites from previous posts, 8. & 9. Esmerelda (formerly of Venus); 10. Vivian (Le Club).
You may find these chicas worth your while.
DB
Povo,
Obviously you are a very avid and thorough reader!
A couple notes: Only Elite has a cover charge, $25 (yes, dollars).
None of the clubs charge extra for a room. Most have a mamasita who expects a tip. Q10-15 is plenty. My best advice is to tip her BEFORE the session, and whisper in her ear “un poco mas tiempo, por favor.” Once I began to do that, I never heard the dreaded “knock at the door” again.
As for chica drinks, at the Men's Club they are the same price as your own drinks, which start at Q25 for a beer. How cool is that?
Many of these girls will be gone, of course. Here are the ones that I know about:
Melani at Cats had returned to Nicaragua in June, but had done this before. Pray that she may have returned.
Esmerelda was no longer at Venus. I heard she went to another club, but it was not one that I frequented.
I think you will find Karen at the Men’s Club rather than Paradiso, but she does move back and forth between them. She is older, but very friendly, and speaks English pretty well. Be sure to tell her that you are a friend of Eric, her “boyfriend” and true love!
You have finally inspired me to give out my awards, which I have been meaning to do for some time. I might as well post them now so that you can use them.
Stay tuned.
DB
Thanks for stiring up memories of Karen.
Polvo, if you can locate which place she is working, she's a sure bet~
Unique. Very full chested. As D.B. mentioned, speaks passable english,
Almost like a latina MILF! But not really. It's just that she is a little older than the other girls, but still prime y muy rica,
Also if you do go to Paradise, shake hands w/Juan Carlos, the Manager who roams throughout. Black hair, little mustache. After a little bit, go up and offer to buy him a soda or orange juice. Only sets you back $2-$3, but worth it. Makes him feel "big" and you'll be on his good side. He'll acknowledge you for the rest of the night (and that ain't a bad thing) and the connection is noticed by the girls. Just wins a few points. Of course I usually hang there for a while, so I work the system to my advantage. If you just go there for wham-bam action, then scratch the plan.
If you head there, there is a really hot chica named Jenessi. Light-skined. Nicaragua. Curvy body. Shaved. Loves to expose herself on stage. She rocks.
Dances on stage, and strips down nude. Nice girl, and nice action. Again, tell her we spoke, she'll be real good to you. I brought down a play station last yr for her son, and she dug it.
later guys...wish I was in G.C now, drinking a scotch at Shakespere's Pub.
eric7
Thanks for the excellent info gentlemen! It couldn't have come at a better time. I'll be in guate 6-9 de octubre. I'll definitely use your thorough info wisely. Que les vaya bien.
So I have just arrived in Guate. Staying at the Quinta Real for $95 per night (expense account baby!). Every forum always talks about how the chicas will want to come and stay at a nice hotel/apartment. Well, bollox to the chica, I want to stay here forever!! Great views, gardens, surroundings - just a logistical nightmare going into town and getting TLN. Not chica friendly.
Anyway, work screwed me up for tonight, but as I was looking at the list of clubs and the empathy rating from Dodger I realized that I do not have "opening hours" on many of the clubs on the list. Any help there appreciated as I will not have time to investigate them all. (Not that I would mind!!)
Thanks,
Polvo
So, sitting here drunk as a skunk, I went through Dodger's awards and gave a nomination of 1 - 3 points, a nomination of 2 - 2 points...etc.
This actually gave some (for me) surprising results....drum roll.
In First place with 12 points is Venus
Tied in Second place with 9 points (each) are Men's Club and Platino(Platinum)
In Third place with 6 points is Le Club.
But an honorable mention goes to Paradiso (Paradise) who apparently has one hell of a manager in Juan Carlos!!
Guess my visit agenda!!
Incidentally gent, I am sure there are some statisticians (however you spell that) out there - should I apply a weighting based on ficha for the buck based on the Tung formula (1 unit = $7) for value??
Polvo
Dodger Bulldog
10-04-06, 03:58
All clubs will look closed by 2 AM. It ain't always so.
Venus and Men's Club do close up at that time.
I don't know about Paradiso for sure, as I always took care of my business there quickly, or moved on.
Some others will turn off the lights and lock the doors to "fool" the authorities, or at least to keep down complaints from the neighborhood. However, they should have a door man posted who will see you coming and let you in, but don't be afraid to knock.
Cats would stay open until 4 AM, or until they ran out of customers, at least on the weekends.
I never saw Le Club or Platinos close before 5 AM. Even when darkened, they are your bet bets for late night/early morning action.
DB
All clubs will look closed by 2 AM. It ain't always so.
I never saw Le Club or Platinos close before 5 AM. Even when darkened, they are your bet bets for late night/early morning action.
DBYep - 2:00am is the witching hour and you get locked in! Haven't tried an after hours entry yet.
I hit Paradiso and Caprichos last night. Unfortunately I am travelling with some "newbies" who are completely naiive and useless. It is cramping everything at the moment so last night was pure reconnaisance and fun.
Paradiso was bereft of beauty. But they had finessed the fugly category to a new high. Juan Carlos was not present so one drink and bye-bye.
I am used to being patted down when going into clubs as sometimes it looks as though I am packing! But Caprichos had chicas doing the pat down. Excellent. Got patted down, immediately left the club and went to the back of the queue to repeat the procedure. Nothing like a spinner with hard, visible nipples patting you down in a doorway!
Caprichos was busy. There was a birthday party complete with pinata (sp?). It was interesting to watch all the chicas scambling over each other when the goodies cascaded.
Spent some time with three chicas, got one phone number, 3 x multiple gropes and many perfect visuals. Got digits and some ridiculous price quotations. Laughed my ass off. Spent 90 minutes talking, viewing, groping and then left. Sure enough at sparrows fart a.m. I get a call from the spinner I was spending most time with - trouble was phone was on vibrate and I was dead to the world. Oh well, there is tomorrow - or perhaps Platinum.
Service was OK, not too pushy but defintely there. Waiters didn't count the drinks worth a damm - which was good. Chica copa was Q80 ($10.5). Was quoted a salida of Q1,400 ($186) PLUS same for chica time. ROFL. I know I have blue eyes, my Spanish ain't bad, but that gringo price was hilarious. Hence the "no interest". (And then got a phone call. Figure that.)
There was one girl on stage called Stephanie who was about 4' 10" but really went at it with a full display of trying to fit some mugs head into her pu**y. Marvellous, and may be worth checking out.
There were some quite fine specimens, some Russians (don't like) and some average. No really bad specimens unlike Paradise (lost).
Polvo
Hacke Beck
10-13-06, 19:25
Can anybody tell me the address of Platinos.
Thanks
Can anybody tell me the address of Platinos.
Thanks5th Calle 2-37, Zone 9
Polvo
Dodger Bulldog
10-14-06, 06:47
Can anybody tell me the address of Platinos.
Thanks
I know it is pretty far on down this thread, but if you read all the way back TEN whole posts to # 256, I think you will find a report entirely devoted to answering this very question.
And then the address is quoted again in # 257, isn't it?
DB
Montreal Friend
10-14-06, 09:06
Hello,
Are there days of the week that are better than others in those clubs?
(I ask because, for instance, in Sao Paolo, Fridays and Saturdays nights tend to be quite dead, contrary to most other locations in the world)
Are there day(s) where most clubs are closed?
Around what time do they typically open in the evening (i.e. I don't like to be up to late, as I tend to get up quite early in the morning)? Are there some that are open during day time while still offering a decent selection?
Thank you in advance for your kind cooperation,
Mr. M.
Montreal Friend
10-14-06, 09:17
I'm a big fan of LaLinea and can always find somebody worth spending $5.33 on (I splurge for "sin ropa", that's why it's double the rate). I recommend Pension Meza few blocks down the road for cheap and safe accomodation, it's a backpackers' hotel.
I want to spend this November in Guate, but can't find any tickets from Seattle for less than $600 rt. Is anyone aware of a better deal?
Would love to met some of you guys down there for a couple of hundred cervezas and muchachas.Hi,
I will be in Guatemala City for a conference from November 3rd until November 10th, you, or any other friendly hubbiest who will be there around that time, can send me a private message in order for us to meet and hunt toghether.
Dodger Bulldog
10-15-06, 23:23
Are there days of the week that are better than others in those clubs?
Fridays and Saturdays are the busiest. I believe that all clubs are closed on Sunday, although I have heard that the Samba Club is open.
The other nights of the week are preferable, as there are just as many chicas and not nearly as many hombres, except at Le Club.
Most clubs open at 7 PM, a with a few opening at 6 PM.
DB
Aussie Greg
11-08-06, 20:24
I´ll be in town from this Thursday onwards, hoping to meet up with a few Paisas working there that I know from Medellin.
Keep a eye out for my report, regards to all.
Aussie ¨the coach¨ Greg.
Dodger Bulldog
11-09-06, 02:54
Hey Greg,
Enjoy Guate!
Which clubs do the paisas work in there? I heard a rumor that there was a high end club called Zeus in Zona 10 full of Colombianas, but I could never find the place.
Nail a few for me while you are there!
DB
I´ll be in town from this Thursday onwards, hoping to meet up with a few Paisas working there that I know from Medellin.
Keep a eye out for my report, regards to all.
Aussie ¨the coach¨ Greg.
Aussie Greg
11-12-06, 17:49
Gidday Dodger, Ricker etc,
If anybody needs a good taxi driver who speaks alittle english (and I do mean a little english) his name is Walter, his telephone number is 52068858, great guy, he's been my main man while here in Guata City.
He took us to Antigua, the old original captial city here in Guatemala, about an hours drive yesterday for the day, we were going to the coast today but because I'll spend the afternoon with my new Homdurena here in Guata City.
What a great city, I'm now fit after a week of greeper, still on the square though, I'm a different man, there is a world after Run Medellin !!
CLUB ZEUS is closed, also with CAPRICHOS, MENS y PARADICIO.
They are closed because of immigration villations having Colomnian girls there without work visa's, yes Club Zeus has many Colombians so my girlfriend tells me, neally all.
Give Elite Club a big miss.
The best club I found and the cheepest is LE CLUB, I go there every night and have got to know quiet a few of the girls, one stunning Paisa lesso girl from Medellin with her Panamainian girlfriend.
The most atractive girls I think in Central America are the Hondruens, tall, skinny, just my type.
I've got to know one particular girl from Le Club, maybe I'll bring her to Medellin so all the girls in Medelliin can get pissed off, show those Paisa's how to do the pole !!
Anyway, if anybody has any spersific questions please ask, regards to all.
Aussie " the coach" Greg.
Hey Greg,
Enjoy Guate!
Which clubs do the paisas work in there? I heard a rumor that there was a high end club called Zeus in Zona 10 full of Colombianas, but I could never find the place.
Nail a few for me while you are there!
DB
Wanderlust
11-23-06, 02:27
Need to borrow someone elses memory as mine has faded. Last year I stayed at a fairly inexpensive hotel right across the street from a small bar owned by an American and his wife in zona 10 just off the main road. Seems there was a chinese resturant just two doors down as well. I need to researve a room online for my first night which is justa few days away. Can anyone help out here with the name of the hotell or any other mid priced hotel in the area?
I know exactly the hotel you are refrencing.
It is across the street from "champions" sports bar. He's a canadian married to a guatemalteca.
Across the street is the APARTAMENTOS "LAS TORRES" GUEST HOUSE.
$30-$35 a nt. Very clean, free internet, security 24 hrs. Good location.
Next door is the chinese restaurant. 100 feet the opposite the direction is Shakesphere's Pub and across the street from the Apartamentos is the Holiday Inn/Casino.
They don't have a website, but I receive email from them with daily, weekly and monthly rates, and description of ammenities.
Since there is no link to refer to, I'll paste their info, showing email, fax and tele number. Hope it helps.
Eric7
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
APARTAMENTOS
"LAS TORRES"
GUEST HOUSE
PBX: (502) 23342747
FAX: (502) 23314628
EMAIL: apartamentos_lastorres@yahoo.com
13 Calle 0-43 zona 10
ESTAS TARIFAS YA INCLUYEN IMPUESTO
APARTAMENTOS (tipo estudio de una habitación):
$ 35.00 por noche, $ 900.00 por persona al mes, mas depósito de la misma cantidad ($900.00).
El servicio incluyen: una cama matrimonial, TV. con cable, baño privado con agua caliente, cocina equipada, refrigerador, limpieza diaria, servicio de lavandería, recepción, parqueo para un automóvil, seguridad las 24 Hrs.
HABITACIONES:
$ 30.00 por noche, $ 650.00 por persona al mes, más depósito de la misma cantidad ($650.00).
El servicio incluye: cama matrimonial, TV. con cable, baño privado con agua caliente, una refrigeradora, limpieza diaria, servicio de lavandería, recepción y seguridad las 24 Hrs. parqueo para un automóvil.
REQUISITOS:
*Cancelar tarifa por anticipado (mes calendario)
*Dejar depósito de garantía, el equivalente a una renta
*Pagar consumo de teléfono.
*Además contamos con Internet Gratis, si lo desea en su habitación su pago adicional es de $2 dólares diarios.
Atentamente,
Apartamentos “Las Torres”
Reservaciones
Aussie Greg
11-24-06, 05:09
I stayed just around the corner at a girls apartment on the main road, she´s from Medellin, Colombia.
I had a few beers at that pub to, small world.
Aussie Greg.
Need to borrow someone elses memory as mine has faded. Last year I stayed at a fairly inexpensive hotel right across the street from a small bar owned by an American and his wife in zona 10 just off the main road. Seems there was a chinese resturant just two doors down as well. I need to researve a room online for my first night which is justa few days away. Can anyone help out here with the name of the hotell or any other mid priced hotel in the area?
Is there any problems with bringing chicas back to the Holiday Inn in GC?
Leo Linger
01-05-07, 07:50
I was in Guatemala City about a year ago and asked my taxista to take me to a decent hotel where I could have a lady guest. He took me to the Holiday Inn. The driver didn't know what he was talking about. I asked the question directly at the front desk as I was starting to fill out the paperwork and received an emphatic "No!" from the desk clerk (along with a dirty look). Needless to say I gathered my passport and luggage and walked out the door.
I wish I could remember the name of the hotel I ended up at. Maybe something like Casa Española. It was near that Eiffel tower looking monstrosity. No AC, but nice clean room, hot water and cable TV, a little restaurant within, friendly staff and reasonably priced. Best of all, the night desk clerk was very cool about me walking in with a girl.
Good Luck!
this is supposed to be the "best" hotel in central america, yet the price is very reasonable (more or less 60$ at the desk). You can't miss it very big hotel on the main avenue, Roosvelt Avenue. Nearby you have a commercial mall with a Mc donald.
At this hotel you can have every guest you want since you have your room (like in western hotels!). They don't even look at who is entering since the hotel is very big and they can't remember anybody anyways. So I suggest anyone in GC to go there. Also, I guess there are good escort sites in GC, not too expansive maybe 100$ per hour or even 50-70, can't remember exactly, so that might be an option to stay quiet at the hotel and avoid all the fuss and the crap that might happen in this city.
HF
Can anybody tell me the address of Platinos.
Thanks
I went there by cabby from tikal futura hotel, that was a 10 minute ride.
I can tell you that from my experience it is not so good, lot of chicas but with the drinks a half hour will cost you nearly 90 greens. Sure, chicas are upscale, but when we were done at the end of the halfie a guard entered and started yelling some stuff, he wanted me to pay !??? well I paid in advance and since my spanish is very limited I got rid of the situation. A little bit after, while I was sitted looking at the shows, the same guard came to me and started yeling again, even though some clients were looking at the scene. He wanted me to consume a drink. And since I just had some I said no I don't want and he said LEAVE (he was on coca I am sure). So I left. A strange place!!
WebZombie007
01-27-07, 02:08
Could someone tell me which clubs are closest to the Westin camino real? I will be there in Feb for business, and would only be free after 10pm or so (obligtory coworker get togethers in bars). If something is within walking distance (safety?) that would be ideal, but a few mins in cab can't be too bad even late night.
Also, are all clubs closed on Sunday? I read a few might be open. Could someone pls provide name/location of clubs possibly open on Sunday night?
Thanks much in advance.
Your best bet is to PM DodgerBulldog. Believe me ... he is the Lord High Potentate of Guatemala City. If he can't answer your questions, then they can't be answered. Besides ... he has probably done every working girl in the entire town.
TGAM Noguera
Dodger Bulldog
01-27-07, 22:20
Webzombie,
There are clubs close by in that end of Zona 9. You could probably walk, but at that time of night I would recommend that you take a taxi for safety. It's worth a few quetzales.
Short trips are to Men's Club, Paradiso, Venus, and Caprichos. It's just a bit further to go to Platino's, Cats, and Extasis. Scroll back to find descriptions and prices.
There were some posts a few months ago that said some of the clubs were closed down for having illegal aliens and/or failing to pay their protection money to the cops. I don't know the current status of that.
You will see ads in the neighborhood around your hotel for Elite in Zona 10. The taxistas will also try to talk you into going there. Avoid unless you want to pay a US$25 cover charge and US$150 and up for a chica on premises, or US$300 for takeout.
Sundays are tough. It is best to get some phone numbers from the girls in the clubs on Saturday night and set up appointments in your room. Either that or have a taxista drive you around 6 Avenida and Calle 12 looking for SW. Be careful when you go around the block as most on 5 Avenida are trannies.
I heard Samba Club on 7 Avenida is open Sundays, but it is a total ripoff joint so I never checked it out.
Some MPs might be open on Sunday. I believe that Casablanca's on 2 Avenida is, but you would have to be pretty desparate. If you are willing to do that caliber of chica, ask a taxista to take you to "La Linea" and get yourself a US$3 blow job, instead of paying good money at Casablanca's.
But it is best to have phone numbers and appointments. Most girls live in a dormitorio on club property so they are happy to get out and come to a swank hotel like the Westin for the day.
DB
Hey Dodge
Why don't you show the guys our photo of the "Queen of La Linea"? Make certain they understand that she is by far ... I mean at least 1000 times hotter than any other chica along La Linea. I think La Linea is where the old East German female shotputting team used to work out!
TGAM
Dodger Bulldog
01-29-07, 01:19
TGAM,
Her photo has already been posted. Here is a link to bring her back to the forefront.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=508372&postcount=246
DB
Arriving Feb 1, 2007
I plan to spend a couple days in Guatemala City, then head to Panjachel to study Spanish. I'll be checking out the places that you all have mentioned.
PM me if you want to meet up. I'll have a local cell number soon after I get there and I'll post again.
I usually visit Costa Rica and Buenos Aires, but this will my 4th trip to Guatemala. I also like Thailand, Cambodia, and just hit Laos.
I´m staying at Apartmentos Las Torres, thanks to a recommendation below. Good place, free internet, in Zone 10, but close to Zone 9.
Well, last nite I went to Paradise. Met the manager. After re-reading some posts, I assume this was Juan Carlos. I asked him how things worked. He told that it cost Q600 for 30 minutes. I asked him to repeat it, and then showed him the notes I had taken from an earlier post, "$40 for 45 minutes". He said NO and repeated the Q600 price. I told him that I would leave, cause I think that´s too much and he let me start walking out.
This might have been part of a plan, but as I passed a couch, 2 chicas begged me to sit down for just a minute. I told them about the Q600 price being too high. They both said right away that there are other prices and the minimum is Q400 for 30 minutes. So I´m not sure if the manager was trying to bump the price up, but he knew I was headed out the door.
Of the two, both from Honduras, one was tiny and hot, and exactly my type. Name was Perla. I had written Paradise off just minutes before, but she interested me. I agreed to Q400 and she called another guy over and said we were going upstairs. He then asked her "How much?" She told him Q400 and he had no problem with that. I paid him.
The room was nicer than I expected, with attached bath. Perla had a great body, if you´re ok with tiny, perky tits-which I am. But the service took a turn for the worse. No BBBJ, which is okay, no lubricant (I now see that in the posts), fucking was good, but I wanted to finish with a HJ. The HJ was terrible, and she lost interest. Then, for some reason she said I was malo. I think because I came on her hand?? She rushed to the shower.
After that there was no contact, and the only conversation was her asking me 4 times for a tip. She sat and finished her peanut snack while I got dressed, and dídn´t get up to say goodbye. Said she was going to brush her teeth and stuff. Repeated that I was malo.
Not sure what went wrong. I won´t repeat with her, but maybe she misread something I said. My Spanish is decent, but something went wrong. So tonite, I´ll try Men´s Club or Venus. I reread the posts and rewrote my notes. I´ll go in much better prepared.
If you want to meet up Fri or Sat, 2/2 or 2/3, call my cell at 5289-3336. Sunday, 2/4 I head to Panajachel for 2 weeks.
Dodger Bulldog
02-03-07, 03:11
DBoy,
I wish I was back in Guate with you. I miss it!
I was never asked for more than 400 Q at Paradiso. Was the manager a young, slender guy in a suit? His English isn't terrible? If so, that is Juan Carlos.
I am disappointed that he tried to overcharge you. He always treated me very well.
It's a good thing that we have ISG, so you knew the score and avoided the ripoff!
If you see little Erika at Men's Club, give her a big kiss for me. She might not be the prettiest thing, but there is nothing she won't do.
She LOVES to stick her tongue up your ass.
DB
Hey Dodge
Why don't you show the guys our photo of the "Queen of La Linea"? Make certain they understand that she is by far ... I mean at least 1000 times hotter than any other chica along La Linea. I think La Linea is where the old East German female shotputting team used to work out!
TGAM
.........there are guys on the ISG who should give serious thought to writing for mainstream magazines and newspapers because of their witty and stylish prose. Noguera comes out with some very funny lines! That post is what I call..... a saver....framer....and hanger upper! :D
Ford ...... thanks for the kudos. Both Dodge and I appreciate them. As to Dodge's and my run to La Linea ... what an experience. There were times we were laughing so hard we almost had tears in our eyes. Talk about skanks! Seriously, "queenie" was easily the only doable chic there and even with her you could see the cooties jumping off the bed to attack us. Attached is another photo from La Linea. Kind of gives new meaning to the expression "going to the store for a loaf of bread"!
oops ... sorry about that
to show you what a high brow and classy hunting environment la linea is, there are spray painted slogans on the walls along the street at several locales which translate to say, "don't [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) on the building walls ... there are children present". tell me that doesn't get the old love juices flowing!
Man what a drag about Paradiso.
Can't believe prices have climbed that high.
Did you have a beer long enough to check out a stripper or 2 in the
side room? They usually start around 10pm.
I agree w/DB. Juan Carlos has all been a cool due. Up & up.
I too miss Guat Cty. Would love to be hanging out there.
Have fun
eric7
Eric 7:
To clarify, I paid Q400 for 30 minutes at Paradaise. I think that's the right rate, but the first offer was Q600, and Juan Carlos didn't budge. It was the chicas that offered Q400 right away. I was in the place less than 40 minutes. 5 minutes of confusion and negociation, 30 minutes of ok sexo, and then gone. No drinks bought, no other girls checked out.
Well, the weekend got better. On Friday, I went to Men's Club. Full of local guys drinking and some talking to chicas. Saw an attractive, tall 5'6", thin chica on the way in and made eye contact. I then looked around a little, and saw another - shorter, not so thin, but hot. I would have been interested, but she was deep in conversation with a guy. So I sat down next to the first one. Very pleasant, quoted me Q320 for 30 minutes, which matched my notes. I said ok. It happened pretty fast, and no drink had been offered.
When we got to the room, she asked for a beer. I thought chica drinks were Q25, but she said Q60 or 70. Later I asked if that is always the price and she said Yes. Body was great - long and lean with nice boobs. Attitude and performance was very good. CBJ and multiple positions. No rush. I'd repeat. Her name is Katerina, she's 22, 1 kid, from Peten, I think. I usually like to get that info.
I then called Yellow Cab and waited for my ride back to the hotel. Calling Yellow Cab ensures that they will use the meter and not rip you off, I'm told. Meter was Q22, but the minimum is Q25, which was fine.
Saturday, I went to Venus. Looked like about 12 chicas and no guys. Edgar greeted me on the way in. I asked for Mariela and Denise. He told both had gotten married. HA! He suggested I sit on a couch in the corner. Usually I don't go along with that. I like to roam and check out all the chicas, but I went along. I told him I like pretty, young flacitas. He walked away and brought back Lucero. She was blond, thin, hot and very friendly. Edgar did his job!
We talked for a while and I liked her. She asked me what I like and I told her "chupar" (BJ), but I didn't specify with or without. Edgar was back very quickly to ask me to buy her a drink. I did. My notes say that it should have cost Q40, but it cost Q55. My rum and coke was about Q35. I gave him Q100. She quoted Q300 and I agreed.
Great body, very friendly and fun, BBBJ without me asking, and very tight. I will have one more night in GC and I might repeat with Lucero, from GC, 2 kids. Or . . . with Michele, who I talked to before leaving. Dark hair, spinner, 18 years old and very hot. I didn´t talk to any other girls or really even check them out, so I can't report on the others. As I was calling Yellow Cab, the doorman suggested that I take a ride with a driver who was parked in front. Nice guy, Q25, no problem.
Mongering in GC is different than what I'm used to. San Jose, Costa Rica has great places with lots of other mongers to share info with. In Guatemala City, I was the only Gringo in all 3 clubs. Which didn't bother me, but it's nice to compare notes and share experiences.
I also wasn't used to a 30 minute session. And the concept of 60 minutes costing twice as much. Sessions in Argentina often start at one hour, but get extended. But I got used to it quickly.
Thanks to Dodger Bulldog, Eric7 and others for the help.
Spent two weeks in Panajachel and Quetzaltenango (Xela) studying Spanish and learned a lot. But didn't find any good nite life in either town, and was bored. I didn't look for P4P in Xela, although there are some reports that it might ?? be ok.
Returned for a Friday nite before my morning flite. Went to Venus and asked for Edgar on the way in. Edgar walked up and was about to introduce a chica that was also walking up. I asked for Michele, who I had met two weeks earlier and only talked to. Well, the chica was Michele. There were only 3 or 4 other chicas in the place.
Edgar led us back to the same couch in the back corner that I was at last time. Michele was hot, young looking (she says she's 18), but a little more baby fat than I remembered. Didn't matter, I wanted her. She was distant on the couch and I sensed she wasn't going to be a GFE, but I had been planning this for two weeks. A drink for her and for me, about Q90 total, maybe not required, but I was ok with that. Played on the couch for a while. Then I suggested we go up. Q300, same room as last time, nice enough.
She was hot and very pleasant, only OK CBJ, and a couple positions, but clearly not enjoying the process. She was singing quietly to herself at times. Afterwards, I told her that I could tell she wasn't into it. She said she had been working for about 2 months, and would work for another month or two, til she had enough money for an apartment. Then she'll get a different job. I guess we'll see.
Went downstairs and told her I have to leave. She was fine with that. The place had about 4 girls available, totally different from two weeks ago on a Saturday. Again, I took a waiting van with driver to Zone 10 for Q25.
Gamma Ray 007
03-03-07, 03:09
5 Calle 0-10 in Zona 1 --Went to the above mentioned massage parlor a couple of days ago and had a nice session with a young Salvadorena named Ashley. All smiles and the only drawback was everything covered. Five girls presented of which two were doable. Prices quoted 150Q for 1/2 hr and 200Q for one hour. They have a web site with fake pictures, but it has their address, phone # and hours: http://www.sensualrelax.ya.st
Thanks to Shtupp's excellent research I took a cab there and found a warm and friendly place. I got pecked on the cheek by seven nice girls, and selected the one that the mamasan blithely referred to as "la flaquita."
Her name was Karla, she laughed a a lot, and was happy to show off her goodies. I sure wish my Spanish were better! I paid for the "hand job" option but she certainly didn't put any barriers up.
While waiting for my taxi I met a gentleman who was just having a beer and enjoying the ambiance (ranchera music and cute mamasan) before selecting his girl. He pointed out that in the Prensa Libre massage ads virtually all the ones that don't say "a domicilo" are casas de cita like the one we were in. He also opined that Antigua wasn't too bad if you went to discos and hit on horny foreign ladies! Thanks, but I'll stick with professionals.
Le Bogosse
04-04-07, 09:18
I went to Guatemala City a month ago, after reading lots of posts which guided me.
So I return the favor to others.
FIRST NIGHT
The first night in GC I had three Gallo beers and headed to the Casas de Citas.
First stop: Cats 3 A Calle between 4 Ave and 5 Ave in Zona 9
There were two beautiful girls and the rest were OK to No-way! Maybe with more dirks I may had liked some more.
Anyway, I asked the waiter to bring me the best girl and so he did. I can't remember her name but she was barely 19 years old with a rock hard body and a pretty face.
She said it was Q.550 for a half an hour but she was on her days, and "tomorrow" she would be OK. Damn! and I had just invited her a drink. I didn't want to regatear for a service I was not going to take so I took off and went to Venus.
Venus: 2nd Ave #11-10, Zone 9, 6p - 1am.
There were about 8 girls. I sat and drank a beer and this girl named Valeria aproached. Her face was not beautiful, but she had an amazing body, lovely ass, a spinner. She said Q.400 per half an hour. I agreed. I should have bargained but with that many drinks on I didn't care. She was fine, I went the following two nights later to verify she was goodlooking.
Anyway, we went upstairs to a room that was comfortable, nothing fancy, just a room to have sex. She gave me a fantastic BBBJ, then I put on the condom and started to fuck. I finished twice. (yes, I had to put another condom).
Her ass is so nice I could stop myself from biting it. It seems she liked it because after we finished our second round she gave me a quick BBBJ while I was dressing up.
I was at the room for about 60 minutes. It helped me that I tipped the waiter before entering the room.
I recommend Valeria, a Nica (from Nicaragua), to anyone. She knows how to please, and does not put limits on her job.
After that first experience I went down to the bar and had another Gallo. A girl fron Honduras aproached me and convinced me to go upstairs. Yeah, as if I were too hard to convince. Boy what a dissapointment. I forgot her name but she's small, colored blond-dark hair and from Honduras and claims she has no children nor husband. (in fact he has two kids, I found out later).
We went upstairs, same room. She was reluctant giving BBBJ, I almost forced her to do it, cuz she had promised it while downstairs. Sex was naah, I don't recommend it. But she was a performer. She moaned and screemed as if we were in a porn movie. You know all fake but keeping the rythm.
Went downstairs, had a beer. Met with Valeria again, who looked better. Then the Venus van took me to the hotel. Erik was the driver who did not charged any extra $$ than a conventional taxi.
SECOND NIGHT
I went straight to Venus, forgot that the girl from Cats was no longer on her days.
As I walked in to Venus the girls looked at me as if they were seeing a ghost. This time I was complete sober and went to check if the girls were as good looking as the night before or if it was just an alcohol special effect.
I saw Valeria, she looked nicer with her hair do, and the Honduras girl seemed just like the night before. I also saw Lucero, from previous posts.
I didn't ask Lucero to come up with me. Two guys took Valeria and Lucero upstairs the minute I walked in.
Forty minutes later the two couples return. The guy who took Lucero seemed unsatisfied, so he sent her away. The guy who took Valeria, was smiling and invited her two more drinks.
That's when I remembered a post that claimed Lucero was singing to herself while being fucked.
Left the place again in the black truck.
To be continued....
Hope this report serves someone.
Le Bogosse
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Dodger Bulldog
04-05-07, 14:52
So Jackson singles you out for "Reports of Distinction." What the fuck!
True, it was a good report, but I WAS the Guatemala board for the year I lived there. I posted 2/3 of the reports and 99% of the information and I never got nominated for "Reports of Distinction."
Jealousy aside, I liked your report.
BTW, in the clubs I never found that you could bargain with the set prices on site. But you can for a take out option. I pulled them out of Venus for 700 Q for TLN.
The 550 quote from Cats was high. It was 420 when I was there, so offer that if you go back. If Melani (a Nica) is still there she will give you the BBJ of your life.
You were smart to tip before you enter the room, it works wonders.
If you get to Paradiso say hello to Juan Carlos. Check to see if Jacklyn is still working there. An absolute 10, and sometimes a tiger in bed (a few times not so much). I would love to get into her pants again.
I wish I was in Guate instead of you. I'm envious!
Enjoy yourself.
DB
I went to Guatemala City a month ago, after reading lots of posts which guided me.
So I return the favor to others.
FIRST NIGHT
The first night in GC I had three Gallo beers and headed to the Casas de Citas.
First stop: Cats 3 A Calle between 4 Ave and 5 Ave in Zona 9
There were two beautiful girls and the rest were OK to No-way! Maybe with more dirks I may had liked some more.
Anyway, I asked the waiter to bring me the best girl and so he did. I can't remember her name but she was barely 19 years old with a rock hard body and a pretty face.
She said it was Q.550 for a half an hour but she was on her days, and "tomorrow" she would be OK. Damn! and I had just invited her a drink. I didn't want to regatear for a service I was not going to take so I took off and went to Venus.
Venus: 2nd Ave #11-10, Zone 9, 6p - 1am.
There were about 8 girls. I sat and drank a beer and this girl named Valeria aproached. Her face was not beautiful, but she had an amazing body, lovely ass, a spinner. She said Q.400 per half an hour. I agreed. I should have bargained but with that many drinks on I didn't care. She was fine, I went the following two nights later to verify she was goodlooking.
Anyway, we went upstairs to a room that was comfortable, nothing fancy, just a room to have sex. She gave me a fantastic BBBJ, then I put on the condom and started to fuck. I finished twice. (yes, I had to put another condom).
Her ass is so nice I could stop myself from biting it. It seems she liked it because after we finished our second round she gave me a quick BBBJ while I was dressing up.
I was at the room for about 60 minutes. It helped me that I tipped the waiter before entering the room.
I recommend Valeria, a Nica (from Nicaragua), to anyone. She knows how to please, and does not put limits on her job.
After that first experience I went down to the bar and had another Gallo. A girl fron Honduras aproached me and convinced me to go upstairs. Yeah, as if I were too hard to convince. Boy what a dissapointment. I forgot her name but she's small, colored blond-dark hair and from Honduras and claims she has no children nor husband. (in fact he has two kids, I found out later).
We went upstairs, same room. She was reluctant giving BBBJ, I almost forced her to do it, cuz she had promised it while downstairs. Sex was naah, I don't recommend it. But she was a performer. She moaned and screemed as if we were in a porn movie. You know all fake but keeping the rythm.
Went downstairs, had a beer. Met with Valeria again, who looked better. Then the Venus van took me to the hotel. Erik was the driver who did not charged any extra $$ than a conventional taxi.
SECOND NIGHT
I went straight to Venus, forgot that the girl from Cats was no longer on her days.
As I walked in to Venus the girls looked at me as if they were seeing a ghost. This time I was complete sober and went to check if the girls were as good looking as the night before or if it was just an alcohol special effect.
I saw Valeria, she looked nicer with her hair do, and the Honduras girl seemed just like the night before. I also saw Lucero, from previous posts.
I didn't ask Lucero to come up with me. Two guys took Valeria and Lucero upstairs the minute I walked in.
Forty minutes later the two couples return. The guy who took Lucero seemed unsatisfied, so he sent her away. The guy who took Valeria, was smiling and invited her two more drinks.
That's when I remembered a post that claimed Lucero was singing to herself while being fucked.
Left the place again in the black truck.
To be continued....
Hope this report serves someone.
Le Bogosse
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Hey DB, don't take it personal, I'll bet Jackson just thinks "who the f%^# wants to go to Guatemala anyways?" :)
Well I made it back after a long hiatus and it's good to see the old haunts haven't changed much.
As usual, I went in search of a day place and gravitated to a casa I went to back in July: Los Proceres 16 Ave 17-42 Zona 10; 5583-1368 , 2366-2467, 10A-8P 300Q 1hr/ 200Q 1/2hr.
Upon entry (around noon) I was presented with eight young ladies of which three definitely stood out and the rest would have worked in a pinch. I chose a cute slender chapina spinner and we headed back to a room. I was quoted the prices above and I went for the one hour massaje y completo.
I received a very respectable masaje and then we went to the main event. I won't bore you with the gory details, but I will note that at first, although she was very wet, I had a difficult time entering as she was so tight. Throughout our fun after I did get in, she was extremely tight but seemed to be enjoying herself. She said she was 24 and did tutoring on the side. Her name was Andrea, but unfortunately she said this was her last week there.
I left with a large smile on my face and I would definitely recommend this place as a day option. Just be aware that it's not luxury accomodations - just more like a central american house -- or brothel. As I left, there were a group of guys across the street talking and when they saw me coming out they gave me that knowing look and thumbs up. The neighborhood is safe and it's a very short cab ride from the zona 9 and 10 hotels. Enjoy.
Later that evening around 8pm, the horns started coming out again so I headed to some old haunts. First stop was Men's Club, but I saw maybe three girls that were doable so I figured I would checknout my other favorite spot - Venus.
Venus was fairly dead when I showed up around 9pm, but as I walked in I noticed seated by the door was a cute little spinner wearing a schoolgirl outfit and waved her over. She introduced herself as the aforementioned Valeria from Nicaragua. Now, my experience with Nica girls has always been positive so I said what the hell. A drink for her and I and up into the room we go. VERY enthusiastic performance on her part. She didn't seem to interested in DFK, but with DATY followed by BBJ and the main event I can't complain. There's something inspirational watching a spinner arching her back while she's riding you - God, it's beautiful. Multiple positions and a porn movie money shot finale. Again, I left Venus with a smile on my face. I will note though that they have raised their price to 400Q for a half hour. Also of note, there seems to be other good talent at Venus. They appear to be specializing in delgada spinner type chicas. Just my type!
I will also note that in neither place did I get a knock on the door saying my time was up. As a matter of fact at the day place we stayed in the room closer to 90 minutes.
All in all a successful and very tension releiving run to GC. Would I go for a mongering vacation? No, but if you're in town on business, it has it's fun.
My days of coming down here are numbered as I am transferring
with my job, but I'll try to get down in May and see if there are any other spots to explore!
You all need to listen to Dodge … especially when it comes to Guatemala info. This guy does know the town and brothel scene. He personally "is" a Report of Distinction. How many of you guys have ever been to La Linea? Well … my friends, we have a photo record of Dodge in one of the rooms with the best looking hooker along La Linea! None of you guys can boast that (US$2.60 for 15 minutes … as if you would ever want to stay in La Linea for more than 15 minutes!). And his recommendation of Melani …… I can personally attest to his factual recount of her skill set. Dodge … I never knew that you "knew" Melani?
TGAMO
(the great and mighty Oz)
OK … really this is Noguera!
I recently visited GC for the first time for a week. It was disappointing. I speak basic Spanish. I have mongered worldwide and definitely have a search pattern for what I like. I am interested in cute, slim babes. I think the guys on here who like GC chicas are either into fat women who have had a few kids (which is fine if that is your thing) or they are suffering from the "isolation syndrome" i.e. after a week on a desert island a female sheep will start looking good.
The fundamental problem is that (for me) the percentage of attractive women in GC is very low -- maybe 1 out of 50. I visited several of the clubs recommended here. I also went to several massage places advertised in the Prensa and saw at least 100 working women -- and most were 5s at best. In Platinum Club -- out of 20 women there was only 1 chica whom I could consider hot. Most of the women were old, worn out, fat asses, kids, droopy tits, stretch marks, big bloated stomachs hanging over their bikinis. If that is your thing then you will be in pig heaven. Looking at the pics posted here -- I can see that this is par for GC.
I remember one time I took an Indian friend of mine to a Bangkok massage parlor and there were 100 slim chicks mostly (to me) gorgeous -- and he could not find one he liked -- coz they were all too slim. So I do understand that some guys like fat chicks.
All of the nice looking chicks I saw in clubs were from El Salvador or Columbia. I did see some cute Guatemalan babes just cruising -- but the percentages are just really low.
Of my admittedly small sample, the blondes were like dead fish in bed and the darker girls were like hot tamales. For those on a tight schedule, the simplest deal and best is the massage advertised in the paper. In the clubs think it is a total scam to give you a room for 45 minutes. Who enjoys having sex in a rushed atmosphere waiting for a knock on the door?
Another thing is that GC is dangerous -- more so than your average third world country. Lots of hold ups all the time in broad daylight at gunpoint even in the "good" sections of town like Zone 9 and just on the main road from the airport -- whole hotel buses are getting cleaned out.
Of the clubs I visited Mediterranee was the best. Ask any taxi driver.
I was in the Dominican Republic recently - and the chicks there are so far superior in every way there is no comparison. For my taste, SE Asian girls are even better -- except perhaps on average they are more timid sexually.
In summary, after a week, a few chicks in GC will start to look good. The sex can be full-on.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Dodger Bulldog
04-09-07, 08:21
Most of the women were old, worn out, fat asses, kids, droopy tits, stretch marks, big bloated stomachs hanging over their bikinis. If that is your thing then you will be in pig heaven. Looking at the pics posted here -- I can see that this is par for GC.I have said many times on this thread that Guatemala is not worth a special trip just for mongering.
There are plenty of porkers, to be sure. You said that you looked at the photos on this thread, but I will refer others to this recent collection: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=512835&postcount=258
Are these chicas who you would call "old," "fat asses" with "big bloated stomachs?" Even all 80 pounds of Alma? 92 pounds of Esmeralda? 97 pounds of Marcela? 105 pounds of Jacklyn? 112 pounds of Ericka? The heavyweight is Vivian at 130 pounds, who stood 5'7". (Yes, I weighed and measured all of the chicas that came home with me.)
Others can check out the photos and decide for themselves if these tummies are "bloated" or if they are slender and smooth.
I'm disappointed to learn that Platino's has gone downhill, as it used to specialize in spinners from Nicaragua, Panama, and El Salvador. But the talent in clubs goes in cycles. Maybe the owner needs to hit the road and make another recruiting trip.
Another thing is that GC is dangerous -- more so than your average third world country. Lots of hold ups all the time in broad daylight at gunpoint even in the "good" sections of town like Zone 9 and just on the main road from the airport -- whole hotel buses are getting cleaned out.Did any of this really happen to you? I think you would have given us details.
Did you actually witness any hold ups? I doubt it.
Nothing ever happened to me or any of my friends (except for the police hitting us up for bribes), and I lived there for an entire year.
Of course there is crime, and it is worse than in many other third world countries. Nonetheless, it is GREATLY exaggerated. It doesn't affect average people in their day-to-day lives.
My guess is that you heard or read some stories which grow in scope and intensity each time they are told, soon becoming like urban legends.
I apologize for being a little defensive about Guatemala. It has more than its share of problems, and you have to work a little to find some hot chicas, but I don't want the people out there to be taken in by the kind of impression that the last post would leave.
DB
To add to Dodger Bulldog,
I've been going down to GC for almost 8 years now and have NEVER had a problem. You can call me crazy and maybe I'm lucky, but most of the time I walk from my hotel in zona 10 to the clubs in zona 9 and have never felt unsafe. I tend to think that if you flash what you have and act like a gringo ass, then you'll get what you deserve - and that goes for probably 90% of the world, not just GC.
As to the allegation that all the girls are fat and ugly, well, percentage-wise I would say that the average Guatemalan woman is not as good looking as the average colombiana, thai, brazilian, argentinian, etc. But, there always are exceptions to the rule and you can find good looking chicas with great attitudes at any of the previously reported establishments. See my previous report on Venus. I noticed expat, that you didn't go to the places we have been talking about. If you go to those lesser known establishments I think you'll get lower quality. That's all I'll say about that.
Happy hunting!
Round the World
04-15-07, 07:59
On my first visit to GUA, I was initially impressed with how clean and green the city is compared to say, San Salvador or Mexico City. Seemed at first glance also less dangerous.
On the hobby side, I followed the advice here and went to Venus. There I was seated and by request a delgadita was brought over. Her name was Valeria, and I smiled when I recognized the name as recommended on the board. We chatted and I asked about the offerings. She quoted 400q for half hour. I asked about salida and she said 1000q. I asked how long that would last and she said till 6 or 7 in the morning. I did the math, $130 for TLN sounded pretty good to me, so I suggested we get out of there. Sure enough we had a great time - DFK, prolonged DATY, BBBJ, 69, mish, great doggy, continuing into the shower with a COB finish. Had another round in the morning and she stayed until I had to get ready for work the next morning at 7:30.
My second night out I tried Capricho's hoping to see some Russians. Didn't see any there, and didn't like the other ladies there either. They did seem a little more dressed up in red evening gowns, perhaps to justify the higher prices.
Then I tried Men's Club where I didn't see anything I liked. I had a beer with a older lady who was fun to talk with, and I saw the girl dancing on the bar routine a la Coyote Ugly. But nothing worth taking upstairs or taking home.
Then hit Cat's where there were two other male guests and about 20 women. None too interesting except a blonde, Jenessy and a flaca morena, Jennifer. I would have taken either, but unfortunately, one dude sitting in the back already had both of them occupied. He eventually took both upstairs. While waiting, I inquired with another girl about the price of a salida. She asked the manager and came back with a quote of 2000q. So considering that sad fact plus the fact that I was getting bored of waiting for them, I left and walked around the corner to Extasis where I also didn't see anything interesting.
So the 1000q salida at Venus was looking pretty good around now (past 12am). So I headed back there for another round with Valeria. She was quite pleased to see me again. And I asked her to get ready to leave. While waiting for her, another girl enjoyed flirting with me, flashing her tits and ass per my request. I can't remember her name now, but she looked like a light skinned black girl, pretty hot body. Eventually Valeria came down and we drove off with Eric in the black truck to my hotel. This time, the night guard was a prick and insisted that she register at the front desk with me (Westin hotel). The guys at the front desk were much cooler, just asking her to sign registration paper without much regard (no ID check and she signed only her first name). Up we went and enjoyed a few hours before I had to catch an early flight after a practically sleepless night.
Overall, it was a fun first excursion to GUA, looking forward to returning and hearing more info from those more experienced in the region.
Cheers
RtW
Joe Schmoe
04-27-07, 09:16
Anyone have any lady friendly hotel recommendations? What streets/zones are good for SW action?
Is El Paseo still open like a walk back in time to an old west show saloon doors old bar women has on both sides of the street. Was on a road drity road the food OK.
Club Paradise is worth the visit! I went there last night, walking from the Camino Real (with a couple of hour stop at the English-speaking bar Shakespeare's on the way). Shakespeare's is one block north of the Camino located diagonally across the corner from the Holiday Inn and directly across the street from the Radisson. From there, you go one more block north, turn left on 12th Ave and walk two more blocks (crossing La Reforma and 7th). Club Paradise should be in sight on your right! You really can't miss the neon sign.
I arrived at about 10pm. It was quiet, being Monday night, but the club had a good selection of girls. I chose Jazmin, a tall Guatemalan girl from Escuintla with big naturals and a "one-hand ass".- a rare combination around here. She asked for Q. 400 ($53 USA) to go upstairs. I really don't like negotiating the price down too much because it usually effects their enthusiasm. In this case, it was not a mistake to pay the asking price. Jaz is very pleasant, conversant, and very willing to please. She started off with an excellent BBBJ that had some TIB mixed in. She wanted to know if I liked it rough or soft. (First time I have been asked up front! ) I told her to switch back and forth. So, with the raincoat on, she showed me her entire menu. Talk about creative and uninhibited, Jaz is the living definition. She even offered up a little Greek on the house. I was having so much fun with her that I lost track of time and the obligatory "your time's up knock" hit the door. She removed the latex and finished me off with a vigorous BBBJCIM! I was so pleased with the service that I left her a Q. 100 tip and, afterwards, bought her a couple of drinks when we arrived back downstairs. (No one tried to charge for the overtime.)
She works Monday through Thursday and returns to Escuintla weekends where she takes Business Admin classes Friday and Saturday.
I will go back for seconds next time I visit Squatemala!
Kaiman
Regulr Travlr
05-24-07, 13:59
This place is very surprising in many ways. Extremely affordable and plenty of quality. my full report will follow as soon as I stay stateside long enough to type one. I have not seen another gringo since I left customs! Now we are talking!!
"the one and only"
SHHHH!! Tell the truth, the DR is much better and that is where everyone should go. Guatemala is very dangerous, similar to Colombia.
Is there a good bus line from Guatemala City to San Salvador, ES? I'll be in Guat for a week and a half and would like to hop down to ES for a couple of days (just b/c I've never been there before), unless someone tells me that would eat up the whole trip.
BTW thanks for all the great tips on this forum, I've been a DR and St. Martin monger for a couple of years, but my Spanish is good and I traveled in Guatemala a few times when I was married, and now that that nonsense is over with, I've been wanting to go back. ;-)
Thanks,
K
I will check tomm. for you with the front desk here, and with the tour operator in the lobby. I will post my findings after a morning fuck and buffet breakfast, which might be one in the same if i get lucky enough tonight.
fantasy.....................
Is A Shit Hole With Scank *****s. Thats The Best I Can Say About The Place!
Okay, I think I have the answer. I picked up a Fodor's Central America book, and they say:
Melva International has bus service to San Salvador. Eight buses a day be/n 4 a. M. And 6 p. M. , five hour trip.
Cool. Next question, I read in here somewhere about the casas being closed on Sunday? True? MPs too?
I once had a TLN where the girl had to get up early on Sunday so she could "take her kids to church, " and I thought. Yeah, right, but I learned later from a stripper friend here in South Florida that when she used to work at a terma in Brazil she did the same thing for her kids whenever she could. (Now I feel guilty about shirking on the tip for that other girl after a rushed early-morning romp before she headed out.)
Anyway, if this is common in Guatemala it sounds like Sunday would be travel day. Comments?
KD
Dodger Bulldog
05-27-07, 21:42
Anyway, if this is common in Guatemala it sounds like Sunday would be travel day. Comments?Virtually everything is closed on Sundays. Your only real hope is to get a chica's phone number and have a date lined up outside of the club.
Sunday is the perfect day to travel.
DB
Dodger Bulldog
05-28-07, 02:54
It feels so good to leave sex prison behind and return to my adopted home turf!
Had a fun time with Fantasy and DemonSeman, as we hit four clubs last night.
I think we all woke up happy boys. I know I fell hard for my little Nica spinner...
It seems like Fantasy and I have been trading chicas for the past few days. I guess our tastes run the same.
I picked up several useful mongering tips from him, and appreciate his help navigating when I got us totally lost driving through parts unknown in Zona 2.
A taxista provided Fantasy with the name of a club that I don't believe has ever been reported on this board. It is in the high range, at Q 600 for on-site service, but if by any chance you might be attracted to beautiful young spinners it is definitely worth checking out:
Club Mediterraneé, 4a Avenida "A" 11-76 Zona 9 (on the corner of 12a Calle and 4a Avenida "A"), 2331-6084. They advertise drinks for Q 15 on Monday through Wednesday.
Got to run, as I'm expecting another Nica spinner to knock on the door any minute now!
DB
I can only say, if you mongers out there are planning a trip to Guat City, you should plan to be there when "the bull" is there, or beg for his guidance before going. This is definitly his turf. He is well known everywhere!!
Thanks for the hospitality!
Fantasy...........
I am not about to write a report when Dodger has it all covered, but here are a few things I found along the way!
My reg travel partners should check your email for the "closeups"!!!
I have never been a "Dodger" fan, But Dodger Bull has a pretty good batting average!
Regulr Travlr
05-28-07, 13:49
Way to go Fantasy. Some real quality stuff there. Glad you and the Dodger didn't strike out.
That flaca chica really does it for me. Guess she hasn't been eating too much McDonalds.
Thanks for the full set of close ups. This has certainly got my interest as new stop on the Latin America tour.
Now if only I could find a hotel room with an aquariium.
That Dodger mentioned was loaded with spinners! There were at least 6 that were this good. Problem was, I found it on my last night. No tengo mas leche! The other places had similar quality, and for those who like just a little more woman, there was plenty.
Dodger Bulldog
05-31-07, 01:42
I went back looking to do the Nica spinner (stage name Anahi) whose photo was posted below by Fantasy. Her attitude sucked, but she was so hot I was almost ready to do her anyway.
Fortunately, an angel saved me just in time. In walked "Angel," a 20 year old Chapina (Guatemalan native) who claims to be a photo model for magazine ads. She certainly does look the part.
She was very sweet and somewhat innocent. I can highly recommend her!
I apologize for the shitty photos from my phone camera, but they won't let real cameras into the club.
DB
Dodger Bulldog
05-31-07, 02:18
I went back to Capricho's on my last night and was quickly introduced to Soffy. She is quite an interesting chica.
Soffy is 21 and speaks near perfect English which she claims to have learned in school in Guatemala City. She was bright and pleasant, which only added to her near-perfect looks and body.
Initially Soffy claimed that she had been working at the club a month. When I asked why I had not seen her on my two previous trips she had no answer.
Later, after we completed our session, she "confessed" to me that it was her first night working at a club, and I was her first-ever customer. She said that she was afraid if she had told me earlier she would lose me to a more experienced girl.
Later I asked the five men attending the door about her. Three did not know her and the other two said it was her first night, so I guess her confession checked out.
But she is certainly no virgin. She told me that Saturday night she had been at Mediterranee, trying to decide whether to work there or Capricho's. She said that she was taken by Michelle, a curly-headed blonde who had drawn many comments from Fantasy about her "bubble butt."
Soffy said that she took Michelle in back at Mediterranee that night and had sex with her, but that Michelle was a cold fish. She asked me how to describe Michelle's attitude in English. After trying out a few words Soffy agreed that "conceited" fit the bill.
I later stopped by Mediterranee to verify the story with Michelle (who I doesn't do much for me). I told her that I came to say hello from Soffy.
Michelle definitely displayed plenty of attitude that same attitude and denied knowing Soffy. So I showed her the photo on my camera and said that I knew they had sex together on Saturday night. Michelle finally broke into a smile and admitted it was true.
Soffy told me that she didn't like the Anahi at Mediterranee either. She described how she had laid down on the stage with a bill in her mouth and Anahi just snatched it out without giving her any action whatsoever.
Actually, I do remember a female doing exactly that on Saturday night about a half an hour before Fantasy did the same. I recall thinking that Fantasy got quite a bit more mileage from it, probably because he had taken Anahi out for service that same afternoon.
Anyway, all this should give you a pretty good idea of how unihibited this drop-dead gorgeous chica is. She says that she will do anything but anal, but the way she liked receiving "besos negroes" I expect it is only a matter of time before she succumbs to that pleasure.
I think if someone would like to shoot for some extreme sex, it would be a great idea to take Soffy out of Mediterranee and over to another club, where you would let her pick a her choice for second chica for the night. I can only imagine how this fireball might respond to such a treat!
Again, the photos are from my camera phone, so they are real bad. Anyone have some tips on how to get better photos out of a Razr V3?
Noetheless, Soffy is one of the hottest and most uninhibited chicas I've ever had. Trust me on this one!
DB
Pics taken with a Kodak Instamatic.
Take a course.
The great little spinner that I had a great time with is Ivania Rivera from Manaugua. She returned to Manaugua tuesday back to school. Although this girl was not my type of GFE, she was one hot spinner in the sack. A tight hole, and a great uncovered blow job. We need these types in life every once in awhile!!
Regulr Travlr
05-31-07, 03:24
I went back looking to do the Nica spinner (stage name Anahi) whose photo was posted below by Fantasy. Her attitude sucked, but she was so hot I was almost ready to do her anyway.
DB
I think Fantasy left a little of his secret sauce on this one. I saw the full set of pictures and she sure looked like she had a great attitude, also looked like she just got a good reaming!
I understand she was a little attached to him, as often happens. Probably did not want to go with one of his "amigos". I have seen this before. The girls have no issue going with the next stranger who walks thru the door. But they know the amigos will talk and compare notes. Looks like you did OK with rest though.
Kendan
The best service is operated by PullmanTur
http://www.pullmantur.com/sites/pullmantur/app.nsf/0/5C27B9D347C43B2686256E0400730C2A
Prices are listed on website. pick up and drop off point in El Salvador is at the Presidente Hotel.
P/u and drop off in Guat City is the Holiday Inn in Zona 10.
Great rates. Very comfy bus, meal service, aircontioned, movies, etc.
They have premier class and economy. They have "packages as well that are advertised with 2 day stays at Hol Inn Guatemala.
eric7
Dodger Bulldog
05-31-07, 06:53
Hey Eric,
I saw Karen at Men's Club and she asked how you are doing. She complained that she hasn't seen you in a long, long time.
I tried to cheer her up by reminding her that there are plenty more h ombres in the sea, but she pouted and said she only wants her Eric. I thought she was going to cry.
Made me feel real bad for her...
DB
Dodger,
Dios mio !!
What's up with that?
She's sweet and has a nice heart.
Wish I was back G.C. partying w/you guys.
I just returned from El Sal 3 days ago...
had been there for the past 2 weeks.
Say hi to K if you see her again
enjoy your time !!
Regulr Travlr
06-01-07, 15:13
Gamma
Great report. Sounds like you had a good time with the girl. I have found the second time is always better. and they feel more comfortable. I am sure you told her you asked for her again!
What hotel were you in? That would be helpful as a place to avoid for being not very chica friendly.
Thanks
I was there last week and found the opposite to be true. However, you cannot wait in your room for the girl. you must meet her out front and head directly for the elevators. i had a long conversation with the hotel security director at the Holiday inn. He stated that any unescorted lady would be detained. if you walk in with one, and she is appropriatly dressed, we will not approach. The other thing is age. I am 44 going on 80, so i rarely get stopped anywhere. If you are younger, or appear younger, the guards are "celoso". With me, they are in such a state of shock that I could be "going" again, that they just give me a smile and a thumbs up. I do always show them my camera the next day. This helps alot. Makes them feel like the "gas man and tire changers" on my race team!
All I can say is "Experience"! Happy Mongering!!
"the one and only"
fantasy - (for some unexplained reason) my previous remarks about your trip to guate city were deleted.
you did a great job down there my friend! time and again you show what a guy, "con pelotas el tamaño de toronjas" (with balls the size of grapefruits) and a desire to experience new places can do! :d
you make the trips, have your fun, take notes and report back w/ photos so all of us can learn from your information. thanks for the info, and thanks for the pictures of your beautiful women! great job!
the only thing that you wrote that concerned me was when you think of yourself as 44 going on 80! you and i need to visit that md in medellin - to get you back to looking 29 yo again! ;)
cheers my friend..............
Gamma Ray 007
06-03-07, 03:03
Since I'm restricted to daylight mongering in what they call "incall" situations, I decided to try one of the massage places advertised in http://www.prensalibra.com (find ClassiWeb and do a search for "masaje" and another for "masajes").
For no particular reason I picked the one on 8 ave 1-26 in Zona 1. It is a very nice gated place with no sign of commercial significance. You ring the bell and a uniformed security guard opens it and ushers you to the main building.
When I was there, a very nice (but chunky!) mama-san named Iris was on duty. We had a nice chat in my baby Spanish about which girls were most friendly, cost, etc. I opted for the 1:15 "completo" deal for Q250 and kicked another Q55 for a couple of beers. The lowest price option was Q150. I think the chica beer was Q35 and mine was Q20.
Iris brought in a lineup of six girls and all but one were definitely doable, and three looked great. I finally went with the shortest with perkiest boobs. She also had cute curly hair, and a kind of impish face.
We went upstairs equipped with soap and towels to a nice room with an adjoining bath. There was even hot water--the kind that trickles through a showerhead heater--and we showered, got all soapy, and generally eased into a very nice time.
She knew only two words of English--"Thank you"--but I'm getting the hang of communicating in these situations. I was particularly pleased to find a place with a good room/bath combo available. There was no time pressure. I think a monger with more stamina could have stretched it to 90 minutes without the slightest trouble.
Afterwards Iris called a cab and I read the paper until it came. Definitely the classiest (classier?) of the two casas of which I now have personal knowledge.
Gamma Ray 007
06-08-07, 17:18
I love an good massage--the straight, legitimate kind--and here are a few places where you can get good ones. I know that most "massage parlors" barely go through the motions, but IMHO there's nothing quite like a great massage before or after a visit to a casa, or whatever.
There is a kind of salon called Shirdi, Centro de Estetica Corporal in Centro Comercial Z. 4, Planta Alta, Local 216. The staff do a great 90 minute program of which about half is massage by a two-person team, Crecia and Betha. Crecia was raised in India, and has a somewhat rapid-fire technique, and, while different, is still a great massage. The last half hour or so is snoozing covered by a heated towel and blanket in the dim massage room. Finally they wake you up, and use hot water on a rag to wipe off your arms, legs, and chest (all is done with shorts on) and finally you sit on the table sipping tea while they dress you! I don't think there is the slightest chance of anything beyond straight massage. Cost is Q150 for the whole 90 minutes.
Another outstanding massage is available at 3rd-floor Spa at the hotel C***********. You don't need to be a guest to go there, just walk in and find your way. If you can, call first and book a massage. Once you get there and are locked in the massage room, strip and lie down naked on your back with your head at the slotted end of the massage table. You'll get a great massage from toes to shoulders, then a flip. Again a complete massage from toes to shoulder. Then another flip (back to face up) and more from legs to face and head (the head and face massage is also very good).
Finally, if you've hit it off with the masajista and made some humorous references to your erect Johnson, the massage lady (whom I think of as "Snow White," a code name immediately obvious from her real name) may be willing to give you an excellent massage where it counts. She's not my taste for anything more than the basics, but she has a sweet face and is very pleasant. The price on the massage is an utter steal: Q100 for a measured 60 minutes. Of course, a decent tip should go without saying.
Dodger Bulldog
06-08-07, 19:49
Sunday is a terrible day in Guate, and I struck out with the chicas I had lined up for dates.
One should know that it is impolite and rude here to ever turn down an invitation, so it is considered more appropriate to say "yes" even with no intention of showing up.
I was confused at first when told that in Guatemala "yes" means "no," but I came to learn it is true.
So this particular Sunday I was reduced to trolling for streetwalkers, and found a dearth of them also.
While out on my rounds I was surprised to see that Baron Rojo was lit up, and stopped in. It is right around the corner from Le Club.
Now I have put this place on the list of clubs that are not worth bothering about, as the the number of chicas was always low (3-4) and the talent level was always lower.
On this Sunday night there were about eight chicas, and surprisingly there was one who was actually cute enough to do. But she was attached to the lap of a local and seemed more interested in sucking down his drinks than sucking anyone's cock.
I asked the waiter for the going rate, and he replied that is was Q 500 for 30 minutes. I told him that I thought that was very high, but I am willing to pay that for a quality chica.
So I instructed him that if he had hidden Shakira in the back, to bring her out for me to fuck and we could do some business.
It took him a moment, but then he laughed his ass off. Every time he walked by he whispered "Shakira" to me.
Baron Rojo is certainly not a good option, but I thought you should be aware of it as one of the only ones out there for a Sunday.
DB
YOU ASSURED ME YOU WOULD NEVER STEP FOOT IN THAT SHIT HOLE AGAIN. WHAT HAPPENED TO SUNDAY? Did all your contacts fail? was my SIM card not working?
Dodger Bulldog
06-11-07, 00:43
YOU ASSURED ME YOU WOULD NEVER STEP FOOT IN THAT SHIT HOLE AGAIN. WHAT HAPPENED TO SUNDAY? Did all your contacts fail? was my SIM card not working?Exactly, Fantasy. ALL OF THE ABOVE!
None of the chicas showed. Nada.
Your sim card registered in my phone fine, but every call I tried to make said "call failed." Perhaps we have different types of Razrs or something. I don't know, but I appreciate your generosity anyway. Fortunately my phone is working fine here in Brasil.
So that Sunday I was reduced for trolling for SW, and they were few and far between. So I decided to drive past the clubs in case one of the chicas had sprung herself from the formitorio and was walking slowly to "On The Run" to pop a cherry soda and some chicle.
As I turned the corner towards Le Club (le dead) I noticed Baron Rojo all lit up in neon. I felt I had no other recourse than to go inside.
Forgive me father, for I have sinned. Even on Sundays I constantly break one of the seven cardinal sins: succumbing to my weakness for "pleasures of the flesh."
And I am not even heartily sorry. It's straight to hell for me I guess.
DB
Ameriocabbj
06-11-07, 04:19
I have yet to find a definitive answer about which clean (no cockroaches) /guest friendly /cost friendly hotel you guys would recommend. I have read some information concerning the Holiday Inn but I have read that some fellow mongers have been able to take guests and some were told that they could not bring guests. I have also read of the Westin but am unsure if I can bring guests or if its worth the extra money I'm sure it will cost. Could someone please enlighten me I'm coming down this Thursday 6/14. Lastly would it be better to wait until I get to Guatemala before attempting to get a room or trying to reserve one online here in the states. I have noticed that the prices given to me from online sites in the states seem to be higher than the prices that you guys quote on here.
In may the Holiday Inn was extremely guest friendly. If you "have game", I think you are fine anywhere.
Ameriocabbj
06-12-07, 04:22
In may the Holiday Inn was extremely guest friendly. If you "have game", I think you are fine anywhere.What zone does this Holiday Inn reside in?
And in my opinion, this is the only zone you should stay in. It is close to city center, great restaurants, and very close to most all decent casas and clubs.
If you're on a budget, i can personally recommend the Hotel Spring at 8a. Avenida 12-65 in Zona 1. It's an old colonial home. I always stay in a room with 1 or 2 beds with a fan and cable tv and a shared bathroom that is very clean and has hot water. The cost is $12 USD. I've entered a few times late at night with a chica and i've never had a problem. The front desk guy at night is extremely polite and helpful. The hotel kitchen serves breakfast but the food is poor. There are 2 cheap eateries/beer halls directly across the street that are open until 10 pm or so and will let you take beer back to your room.
This hotel is only 3-4 blocks from the Plaza Mayor. Zona 1 can be a little intimidating at night for the uninitiated. You may want to take a taxi to and from the hotel. I have had no problems on foot at night in this area.
In the opposite direction, the hotel is also 3 blocks from the Litegua bus station, which has frequent departures all day to Puerto Barrios, Rio Dulce, Zacapa, Esquipulas, and other cities to the northeast.
This hotel you mention is probably great for a "backpacker" or hiker who is touring central america on foot and needs a bed for the night. But I truly believe that this discribes a very small % of the mongers here. While I was there with Dodger Bull, we picked up a fellow monger staying in a similar hotel in zona 1. When we finally found this place, and got him back to zona 9/10 area, he could not believe he was in the same country.
Lets not mislead anyone. Lets make it quite clear what you are recommending here. A $12 a night hotel in a dangerous area with poor food. Uninitiated? Walk around this area after dark? I would not walk around this area after dark with full body armor, a 9 mm, two dobermans and a blackhawk helicopter with night vision and infrared overhead.
A shared bathroom? Come on, you can't be serious! If you need a place with a shared bathroom, stay at home and Jack-off to Cubanut's great photos. Even the Mansion in Medellin did away with shared bathrooms. I Think???
"the one and only" (calling it the way I see it)
ManWithNoName
06-13-07, 01:23
I stayed at the Hotel Spring last year and it really isn't that bad. The price is right and for an extra $2 you get a private bath. I agree that you don't want to go out at night. But during the daytime you are a short walk to a half dozen massage parlors. And prices in Zona 1 are the best around in the city.
But I truly believe that this discribes a very small % of the mongers here. )
I'm glad Acuerpado posted on a budget hotel. I think you have to understand that some of us on this site (myself, for example) travel for months on end; so staying in a place like the Holiday Inn is just not practical for someone who is going to be staying in a city or country for many months at a time.
I will admit that staying at cheapie hotels is not my prefered way to go; I personally prefer renting an apartment if I'm going to be in town for a month or longer. But, not all cities have the tourist infrastructure to support fully-furnished apartments; I suspect Guate may be one of these cities (but someone can correct me if I'm wrong). This is where cheap dives like Acuerpado mentioned come in. Besides, some of us on here (again, I'm talking about myself) much prefer to hit up casas and do the girls on-site, and not take them back to our hotels/apartments. So, we really have no need to "impress" the girls on where we're staying.
Anyways, I'm posting on here because I'm planning to check out a few different countries in Central America early next year, and Guatemala will be one of them. I'm just now starting to look into flights, and was wondering if anyone here has flown Spirit Airlines to Guate? Their fares are the lowest I have seen from LAX, about $300/RT, taxes and fees included. But I'm somewhat concerned with how stable this airline is, especially since I would be gone for an extended period of time.
I could also use my Continental OnePass miles (35K) for a free ticket, but I'd prefer not to waste them on such a cheap flight. Any thoughts on this?
Eric7,
Thanks for the pointer to Pullmantur. After some hesitation over the date, I finally pulled the trigger on the second week in July.
What's the border crossing like b/n Guatemala and El Salvador on the bus? Can I buy a tourist card at the border? Or do I need to arrange in advance?
KD
1. Spirit is a great airline with great deals. I think Dodger flew there for $16.00 each way plus taxes from florida.
2. I also stay in places for months at a time. I take about seven months vacation a year, so I do believe I know the meaning of a long stay. What I do is find a reasonable apt or condo in a safe area near good reasonable restaurants and casas. I never, however stay in a $12 a night hotel with shared bathroom, lousy food, and in an area where I must run out of the hotel and into a cab to be safe, where I cannot walk to Mickey D's or the likes, where I cannot be at a choice of several casas in just a few minutes, where I cannot stroll down to the mall or shopping area for an expresso, etc, etc... Also there are 100 times as many cabs available in zona 9 and 10 as in the area he is talking about
3. I never worry about impressing a *****. She is getting paid to be there. I do like to treat myself to liveable, comfortable conditions.
In closing, the purpose for my original post was to point out that this hotel would be a terrible recommendation for about 99.635% of mongers here. I never pay a "c" note a night for accomodations, but I won't jeapordize my safety and comfort to save a buck either.
I am all about saving $$$, But lets not mislead newbie mongers into believing that this is a good option................
Dodger Bulldog
06-13-07, 06:32
Ezinho,
I did fly Spirit from Ft. Lauderdale and know someone who flew with them to Guatemala from Los Angeles. They have been flying out of Ft. Lauderdale since the early 90's and are now rapidly expanding into Central and South America.
They are making their business model that of an ultra-low fare carrier, similar to the wildly successful Ryan Air in Europe. They have a fleet of Airbuses with an average age of less than two years. Just because they are inexpensive does not mean that they are unstable.
Sign up for their newsletter. If you are flexible on your dates and respond quickly, you might be able to catch one of their sales for quite a bit cheaper than $300.
In fact with all the bankruptcies among Delta, United, Northwest, I think the low cost carriers look pretty darn good. I know that I decided to use up my Delta miles rather than risk losing them.
Yes, you can find furnished apartments in Guatemala City. Although they are not necessarily set up for tourists, they would work.
I guess a lot of this will depend on what you mean by "long-term." If you only need one month, it would be much harder to find someone to lease to you for that length of time. If you are talking 6 months to a year, it would be ridiculous to pay $360 to stay in Zona 1 when for the same or a bit more you can have your own place in a nice neighborhood.
I lived in a modern suburb (Zona 15) about 10 minutes from Zona 10. I had a new 2000 sq. ft. 2 BR 2 Bath with hardwood floors, tiled walls, vaulted ceilings, a patio garden with a 12 foot mirrored privacy wall, doorman with 24 hour security, fully furnished, for $650 a month. That works out to about $22 a day, and is quite opulent compared to anything in Zona 1.
My guess is that you can find something from $300 - $500, perhaps in Zona 15 or Zona 13, which is also a decent neighborhood by the airport, and again about 10 minutes from Zona 10.
My employer found the apartment for me, so I am not a good resource. Your best bet is to check Prensa Libre classifieds on-line. Even if you find one that is unfurnished, furniture can be picked up very cheaply at a second hand store which would be in better shape that in many old hostels.
I would be hesitant to commit to a place site unseen. You may want to stay somewhere for a week while you give yourself time to check out the apartments and the neighborhoods. Try to find someone local who can give you advice where things are, just as when you move to any new city, or you would spend a lot of time spinning your wheels.
I learned a lot about the city in the two weeks that I was going around town shopping for a used car, which by the way are very cheap in Guate. I bought an '85 VW Golfito for $1500, put some tires and a new radiator on it, drove it for a year including to El Salvador and up the mountains, and sold it for $1500 when I left.
Good luck on your adventure!
DB
Dodger Bulldog
06-13-07, 06:37
What's the border crossing like b/n Guatemala and El Salvador on the bus? Can I buy a tourist card at the border? Or do I need to arrange in advance?I didn't go by bus, I drove. But I imagine it is the same at the border.
You stop at Guatemala customs and check out of the country, then go to El Salvador customs and buy a visa for US $10. Should be no problem at all.
DB
I would not walk around this area after dark with full body armor, a 9 mm, two dobermans and a blackhawk helicopter with night vision and infrared overhead.
I always stay in Zona 1 when i visit Guate for a few days, which has been 6-7 times in the past 6 years. I also walk around alone after dark in Zona 1, with none of the protection you mentioned. I'm obviously a gringo by appearance, but i have never had the least bit of a bad situation. That is my experience.
The problem with Zona 1 after dark isn't unsavory characters on the streets. Rather, the streets become completely deserted and there isn't adequate lighting on many streets.
As a previous poster confirmed, the Hotel Spring isn't a "cheap dive." It's a well-run, clean hotel in an aging colonial home. The rooms would be 2 times more expensive if they were located in a more trendy neighborhood.
Some of us like to travel the world and hunt chicas but have limited funds to do so. Therefore it is necesary to save money on lodging at times. I'm willing to bet that there are others on this site in the same situation.
Zone 1 can be very dangerous. If you are in the wrong place like La lemonade is a good example of where you dont want to be in Zone 1/5, day or night. There are bad areas in all the zones and none shold be considered completely safe.
Also the border crossing on the bus with Salvadore is a breeze. It used to be the bus collected 10 dollars and did all the leg work with your passport for you. You just waited on the bus (2003).
Where did I mention that it was a cheap dive?
I quoted you, "$12.00 us per night", "poor food quality", and "shared Bathroom". Now if you are concluding that this makes it a cheap dive, than I would only say that I agree with you totally. How about a nice, clean, safe, well run hotel directly next to Holiday Inn in Zona 10, and very close to great food for $30.00 a night!! And much more attractive long term rates. This is where Dodger stays, And if this is not in someones budget, they have no business mongering at all.
Yesterday's earthquake was a 6.8
Thursday, June 14, 2007 (Guatemala City)
A powerful earthquake that shook Guatemala and parts of El Salvador caused traffic chaos in Guatemala City, damaged houses and generated landslides outside the capital.
But officials said there were no immediate reports of major damage or injuries from the 6.8-magnitude quake that struck on Wednesday.
Aid workers across Guatemala reported only minor damage to homes in a couple of rural communities, according to Francois de la Roche, Latin America's director for humanitarian and emergency affairs for World Vision.
''I didn't notice it at first but then felt this long, swaying motion back and forward,'' de la Roche said.
The quake struck at 1:29 pm (local time) and was centered 115 km southwest of Guatemala City off the Pacific coast, according to the US Geological Survey.
Guatemala's seismology institute said the quake lasted 49 seconds.
''It rattled a lot of nerves,'' said the spokesman for the National Disaster Reduction Center, Benedicto Giron.
Outside the capital, landslides were reported in the southwest province of Escuintla, but they apparently caused no casualties, he said.
The quake was also felt strongly in neighboring El Salvador, where people ran into the streets in the capital of San Salvador, but the Red Cross there said it had no reports of damage or injuries.
It was also felt in the Mexican city of Tapachula along the Guatemalan border.
The Pacific Tsunami Warning Center based in Hawaii said no tsunami was expected from the quake.
The region is prone to earthquakes. Almost 23,000 people died in a 1976 earthquake in Guatemala.
as reported by AP
Dan D Dick
06-14-07, 20:43
Looks like I'll have a business trip lined up in early July & will likely visit GC, probably arriving Saturday the 7th for 3 nights. I've decided on 3 nights "just because", so if it should be 1 or 5 feel free to chime in.
I'm able to get out pretty regularly (heading to San Jose, CR tomorrow morning for 10 nights) but I haven't been to GC yet. My Guatemalan friend (raised in New Orleans) just kept saying "why???".
I'm planning on staying at the Marriott ($90/nt). I called their front desk & the little gal confirmed they're GF (much better than the Renaissance in Santo Domingo DR was last week!). Yea, I know the Marriott's not cheap but that usually gets me free breakfasts & dinners in their concierge lounge plus all the sodas I want. Plus I like them. (but never again in the Dom Rep)
Since I'll be arriving on a Saturday I'd prefer not to be bored shitless on Sunday. The following appear to be options for Sunday based on my RTFF; any updated info out there?
Baron Rojo
Casablanca MP
Samba Club
6 Ave & Calle 12 for SWs
"La Linea" (daytime only)
Over-priced escorts
I presume most of the Zones are walkable with common sense in the daytime, particularly 9 & 10. But I would like a visit to some of the dives in the seedier parts of town, so if any of you locals out there would like a wing man (days/evenings/nights) just let me know by post or PM. I'll buy more than my share of the drinks. I'm 55 & I'm certainly not fluent in spanish (my Costa Rican novia says so) but I always seem to get along just fine. The light brown hair & blue eyes unmistakenly mark me as a gringo, though.
/Dan D.
If you pm me your email, I will shoot you an updated map of the city I would say there is enough for five nights, especially if one of your nights is sunday (which sucks).
Dan,
Just a couple of things I wanted to chirp in about...
I've stayed at the InterCont, Camino Real, and Hol Inn, all w/in 5 min of eachother. I haven't stayed at the Marriott, although it is directly across the street from the Camino Real. The Real is a 4-5 star hotel, and for some reason, if I am staying in Zona 10, I'd rather stay on this side of, what's the street...Blvd de reformas, or something like that. Especially if you are planning on spending $100 a nite. Hol Inn is much cheaper.
Marriott just seems a little seperated. Also, I read or heard from someone, who was staying at the Marriott there, and said it was 2 steps away from being a day care center !! Translation: he said 1/2 the hotel was occupied by american couples there picking up their adoptive babies. It was one of the more popular locals for couples in town for this purpose. He said it was just amazing. Felt a little out of place. But as you know, Guatemala ranks 3rd or 4th in the world in the number of adoptions per year. So, perhaps it's to be expected, but I have not seen big numbers like that in the other hotels.
Point being I guess, is that you should be able to get a rate similar to that at Camino Real or Hol Inn. Inter Cont is around $120.
Hol Inn is nice on executive floor..great views and big rooms.
Or, have your own pad for a longer time at Dodger Bulldog's fav place,
Los Torres, right across the street from Hol Inn.
Just my 2 cents, either way you'll have a great time.
As for your Guat. friend who wondered "why are you going there??"....
You said the answer..."raised in New Orleans." Jajaja
If he had been raised in Guatemala, he'd be praising it.
Enjoy your time there. great city. great country.
photos-putas in zona 4 in the afternoon, view of the Westin Hotel, taken from top floor at Hol Inn, and foto from inside hol inn.
eric7
I think eric has a valid point. I know you die hard Marriott guys put alot of value on your "free Sodas", but the marriott is just out of the good walking area. I stayed at holiday inn using points, so not sure the rate, but very nice, very GF, and free computer use and internet access.
At $90, I would move to one of the other mentioned properties.
Dodger Bulldog
06-16-07, 00:17
There is quite a market for babies run out of the back room of the Marriott. On any give day there might be 20-30 tables set up in the ballroom with couples huddled around their attorneys finalizing the adoption of their Mayan babies, which usually come from the rural areas.
It is pretty weird to watch it going on, really. The U.S. government recently put out a warning against adopting from Guatemala since some of the attorneys are a little shady.
Wo can believe that lawyers would really be that way, just for a buck?
I have been on flights back to the States with up to 15 couples showing off their new babies to each other. It can get a bit trying when the air pressure changes inside your ears and all the babies start crying at once.
This leads to an important caveat. When in Guatemala, be advised that it is a common belief among the indigineous people that we gringos come there to steal their babies. This goes way back.
So in Guatemala play it safe and never show any attention to a little one without first receiving the parent's approval. Never take a photo of a child unless you have express permission.
At the Parque Centro in Antigua and other places, some mothers actually make their living by dressing their babies up in traditional costumes and posing them for photos. They can be cute as shit.
The Marriott is certainly nice, of course. It is a just a little off the beaten path for most tourists, although within a short taxi ride to everything.
DB
"please do not write in chat room style with all small letters and no punctuation. " man, i love this site! talkin' about girls. where english literacy and style are a must. i must say that i am extremely impressed by the with and intelligence exhibited on this forum.
anyways, i have been reading posts for about 4 months, with much interest, but for reasons unknown never activated a membership. honestly didn't know i could post for free. so i was "that guy": soaking up useful knowledge without contributing my share. just thought i'the attempt to change that.
my time in gc is quickly coming to a close, and i've been out and about, trying to make sure i leave with no regrets and no stone unturned. that is, unless la linea qualifies as a stone. not my style. i am a regular at le club, but my favorite girl left about a month ago and i haven't found another there quite as good. so i have changed residences and now frequent mediteranee. just a bit cheaper, elegant, and wow, easily the most beautiful girls i have seen at a club here. thanks to whoever it was who (finally) posted it. because i had never heard of it before.
i have been to men’s and venus a couple times, mostly with the intention to get laid and get a buzz going before i head to the more expensive joints. i rarely pay for servicio, but when i do, that 200q price differential seems so important. call me a cheapskate. inevitably, i have left feeling disappointed, but luckily a bit more intoxicated. i’m sure everyone knows the "girl naked dancing on stage vs. girl naked in the room upstairs" factor. funny how much the right lighting can transform a girl into a stunning beauty – shedding pounds and concealing stretch marks. i find that this "factor" increases exponentially at the lower-end clubs.
before coming to gc, i was a rookie in the scene. a couple days in bangkok was my sole "experience. " but i love latin women, and luckily the fine gentlemen of the forum were there to help expand my horizons. before i knew about the forum, i cut my teeth at (i’m not ashamed to admit) elite in zona 10. i got my a$$ handed to me! that’s what i call a formative experience. sure, i had a wild threesome and all, but i was raped in every sense of the word. some of you out there are laughing at me right now. suffice it to say i learned that night about the concept of a "chica drink. " wtf! (sorry, is that chat room style? ) never again. i still laugh when the taxistas try to encourage me to go there. "no soy turista – no soy gringo tonto, " i say.
this week i went to 10-54 (aka club fenix; the maseros wear nba t-shirts with the phoenix suns logo – cool! ). asked about servicio price (300q), finished my beer, promised andrea i would return (i am liar! ), and jetted. pretty lame. met an evangelical taxi driver who ended up explaining biblical passages to me for at least 30 minutes outside my house, which i found to be extremely hilarious, considering he had just introduced me to le palace and country club (off of roosevelt, near trebol). if you like le club, and would like to save about 40%, i would recommend le palace. upsides: 25q for a beer, compared to 40-45q; 400q servicio, compared to 600q. if you do the chica drink thing, 60q compared to 90q. downside is, i guess, the area. zona 11 if i am not mistaken. but i felt plenty safe with lots of security. then again, i can be a bit more "adventurous" than most. but le palace has all the works that le club has: insanely attentive waiters, long catwalk stage for dancers, comfortable sofas, and a small contingent of cute girls (aside from mediteranee, i have never found a high percentage of girls that would ever interest me). but 2-3 hot girls at one locale is enough to satisfy me. one block down from le palace is country club. i arrived at 12:45 so i didn’t go in, but the taxista claimed (dubiously, i presume) that the girls were of equal quality. he also said that servicio costs 75q. so my highly analytical mind put two-and-two together, and it did not equal that a nice-looking girl would not be smart enough to relocate one block away for 5 times the money (yeah, simplistic, i know, but still). however, in the interest of scientific research, i will visit country soon to do some comparative shopping. apparently there is a show, which is always appreciated.
oh yeah, had the best (pro-style) sex ever at le palace that night. had to wait an hour (it was monday, and mostly dead) staring at a lineup of girls on the far side of the room who were as equally bored as i was. but she appeared divinely, like a gift sent from above (literally, actually, since she had been upstairs in vip), as if answering the mental image of the girl i wanted that had been forming in my mind. very small-chested, to be honest, but other than that, a toned petite body, beautiful face, and perfect ass. 10 minutes later we were upstairs, and discovered that this nica was totally uninhibited. claimed to have drank 3 bottles of whisky in vip, but who cares – whatever works. before i knew it, she was delivering an expert bbbj (first time i have ever not been covered for anything, but i was in the moment) and then rode me for a couple minutes, which i was enjoying just fine. then i felt her lift up, grab my piece, and slide it (nice and slow) a bit further south. ok, now i was in heaven, and she had the rhythm to keep me there. few minutes later, i told her "ahorita yo atras" (still haven’t figured how to be slick about commencing doggie style in spanish) and she immediately readied herself, in perfect position while i continued doing her greek and fingering her at the same time. she loved it, with her hands pressed against the mirrored wall. i couldn’t last long that way, and i didn’t. whenever it was anatomically possible, she dfk me like i was water, and she had just spent a month trekking across the sahara. i was ready to chill and wind things down, but she wanted more, a lot more. i was like, it’s not gonna work for about 5 minutes, but she said, well, you have a tongue and hands, right? yes, yes i do! luckily i was soon ready for another round, during which she begged for "mas duro, mas duro. " this i can do as well.
so, i guess i will be maligned for not handing out names like candy, but i offer some. this particular girl won’t be hard to find if you have any sense at all, but i refrain from distributing a name due to sheer, near-term post-coital jealousy.
i will say that there was a huge difference between this girl’s real ecstasy and the oft-heard "ewww, quuuuueee riiiicooo. " that phrase makes me sick, even when i hear it from the other (non-pro) girls i date here, who are not paid porn actresses. it’s nice when you can transcend the line between client and chemistry. it is so rare. i wish "que rico" worked for me, but i also wish that ugly, fat girls turned me on. .
i have been to cats, and thought it sucked. nasty girls, but i was right up against the stage and possibly didn’t see the diamonds in the rough. the 3 that did approach me were rebuffed quickly. capricho’s is excellent in terms of sexy girls, but i have not had the best experiences the two times i went. actually took a fine columbiana to the back room; this was the night that i learned to be careful when selecting the "top shelf girls. " normally i can warm them up with a few jokes, etc. but she was still obviously arrogant and frankly not even doing the normal, solicitous flirting that i have grown accustomed to. (yeah, all of us are so handsome, funny, etc. , aren’t we? ). but still i wanted her, and paid for it with a lousy, uninspired performance on her part.
platino’s is cool. i was doing my usual thing, chilling out and putting out my "don’t talk to me" aura, drinking gallo or monte carlo or corona, who knows. as is typical, the bravest of the bottom-feeders approached me. "por que estas solito? " i am always cordial, doing the whole meet and greet, exchanging nationalities and 5-minute versions of our respective life stories. i can always use a free spanish lesson or country orientation or gossip about the other girls (i always meet the one good girl in the club who has never done drugs, yet everyone else in the place is a crack *****; am i naïve? haha). then comes, of course, "buy me a drink? " to which i reply, "no, sorry, i am just here to relax and look. another time maybe. " instantly: kiss on the cheek, and this friendly girl develops sudden-onset multiple personality disorder. "c’mon, just one. blah blah blah. " sorry, but would you like a cigarette?
anyways, ariana at platino’s was a fantastic and memorable experience. i can’t stand a girl that doesn’t kiss, and she was extremely passionate. she fucked the shit out of me, and vice versa. total gfe (see, i am learning). kinda makes me wish all my real-life gfe’s lasted only 30 minutes.
by way of wrapping up, i started a practice long ago of forging relationships with girls outside the clubs. why pay 600q for 30 minutes when i have the assets and intellectual ability to get much more out of the deal? so, i am very picky about selecting one girl at each of my favorite clubs. i winnow the field by physical appearance of course, and of the remainder, i have always been fortunate enough to find one girl who really suits my interests. i like a girl i can converse with. the majority of the time i don’t pay for servicio in-house, and never outside. i do pay for a chica drink, sometimes several, at least the first night. the investment is well-worth it, and it’s tried and true for me. i have a pile of cell phone numbers in my house, and have not once been given a wrong number. i am not malevolent in getting numbers in any way. i don’t inflate my income or my intentions (very few of the girls really want to go to gringolandia anyways). 90% of the time, the girl offers me her number first. several times i have gotten calls on my way home in the taxi. now, it could be that i have certain advantages: i am relatively young (<30), in good shape and most importantly can banter and flirt (even in spanish) with the best of them. add the (huge) gringo factor and blue eyes, and it might help explain why i am currently dating 4 girls using strictly conventional methods. i digress, but i think it’s ridiculous to spend money and ultimately be unfulfilled when there is an alternative.
so i simply mention, off-hand, about going to get something to eat sometime. i mention that i know it has to be lunch since they are working at nights. i never try for sundays; it’s too much of a commitment and honestly, these girls deserve the sleep or family time they get on sunday. i ask if they have ever had sushi or tapas, and of course they haven’t. i love tapas y canas and sushi lounge, so why not invite a guest. by the time we have our first lunch, the deal is pretty much set. nothing malicious about it (even when i can relate my "planning" so candidly). from that point on, i have a beautiful girl who i really actually enjoy and gets treated with respect. i know her real name, her real story, and when she comes over to my house at 3am after work, she initiates sex with me instead of vice versa. the only money involved is me paying for her taxis to see me, infrequent lunch dates, and a few well-though-out gifts. example: one girl is currently down in nicaragua visiting her daughter and family. she had invited me to visit her in leon if/when she and i were both there. i told her, yeah, but i don’t think your little girl would appreciate some strange gringo taking up her mom’s time. true, she said, her daughter is extremely jealous and wary of any strange man. little later, on the pretext of "bribing" for her daughter’s affection, i asked her what would do the trick. well, she says, her daughter loves photos. so i bought her a disposable camera to bring to her daughter, along with a bit of money to develop the film. i told her to get copies made, so the daughter could keep one set and the others she could bring back and show me.
another example: i make sure i keep notes of girls birthdays, and then promise to get them something during my travels. doesn’t have to be a birthday, whatever. the girls never ask for much. one asked me for a stuffed animal. instead, i asked her favorite colors and bought her a couple name-brand shirts (45q each at a boutique across from los proceres), which she adores. i don’t buy anything expensive, lest the girl stop seeing me and start seeing my wallet. to be honest, the non-pro girls i date here are far more "gold-digging" than the girls i meet at clubs. go figure. this same girl has arranged for her sister to pick me up at the bus station and stay at her house when i visit nicaragua next week. i guess everyone has their own style, but i much prefer building some kind of personal bond. makes me feel better, and the sex – at the very least. is much better imho.
the other thing i like about gc, besides talking to taxi drivers (always interesting), is the police. when i was first here in 2005, i was a central american novice, i was scared sh#tless by the cops. maybe the year-long stint in iraq between then and now changed my attitude about what constitutes "danger. " side note: no, i am not one of those jarhead ignorant fucatks who shows up at the club with their posse, oozing gringo stereotypical behavior. my military experience belongs to a former life. moving on: got stopped in zona 3 one time, and i was fully prepared to hand over all of my possessions. luckily, my friend was fluent and level-headed, and refused to pay the propina. this time around, i have had several more encounters with guatemala’s finest. it’s always the same drill – what are you doing (at 3am in zone 9 for example)? have you been drinking? do you have a gun? drugs? passport? me: "i am waiting for a taxi, or (if i am feeling cheeky) i am standing here. si, estaba tomando. no, no tengo armas. ni drogas. here’s a copy of my passport. "
it’s almost comical, and – dare i say – fun, now. i think normally they are just astounded that i am really not afraid. why do they always think i have a gun, anyways? it’s ridiculous. last night i left my smokes in the taxi, so i walked a block (in zona 15) to the 24-hour pharmacy. it was about 4am. two motorcycle cops (riding each other, you know how it goes) pass, consider me, and then circle around to harass me. twenty minutes later, they finally "give up" on me because i am clearly enjoying the process. first, the obligatory pat-down (no, not the part i enjoy). then, the interview. me explaining that it would be stupid to carry my original passport, and that’s why i have a copy (covered with girls’ phone numbers and taxistas’ recs, no less). finally we spend about 10 minutes discussing my phone (treo, seems to really impress the ladies and apparently works with the pnc as well). i tell them it retails for $300-$400 but i got it online for $40 (true). one guy wants me to sell it to him. can’t, i say – all the girlfriends and family’s numbers are inside. how about a gift, he says. sure, no problem, would you like a cigarette (as i pull them out and extend the pack)? yes, they would. but what about another gift, he continues. he means money, and he already knows i have some from the search. well, i would like to invite you for a beer, i reply. when do you get off? we discuss the difficulties inherent in our respective schedules, but i offer them a beer or two anytime. so i give them my cell # and they ride off into the night.
basically, i find that with a little ingenuity (aka "game") you don’t have to depend on your wallet (though it is definitely a strategic prerequisite) to develop relationships, and learn about this country a bit less superficially than most.
well, i really would like to meet some of the vets out there (db, i am talking to you! ). i won’t have the pm feature anytime soon (not before i leave guate that is) but i would like to meet up with some compadres at a time/place of your choosing (upscale, preferably; say, le club). i am headed to honduras and nica soon, so hopefully it can happen in the next couple days. i promise to reveal some other names i have selfishly been keeping for myself. after that, law school awaits me in the states (what do they call it, "sex prison? ").
oh yeah, a taxista in el salvador gave me a great idea (or so i thought at the time). he said all the lips and other working girls in ss headed to an after-hours bar after work. he told me the right guy could buy the right girl a couple drinks and the rest would be "gratis. " i never had a chance to probe further, but i did find one bar right by (back, left if viewed from the hotel entrance) the hotel marriott. i was told it’s called la libertad but last night i confirmed it’s called el sol. there is another after-hours bar called la pupuseria (yeah, bc they sell pupusas! ) right there. anyways, it’s slightly shady but looks like a regular bar (not on the same terms as the bar in front of le club – that place is a hell hole). same idea: working girls meeting up for a drink after work. i was there 3 times and did see a few girls i recognized (even the afore-mentioned arrogant columbiana that i did), but mostly skanks. met a huge but amicable women who was obviously not a prostitute but well-worth talking to. she offered to set me up with at a couple beautiful flacitas. we’ll see if she delivers. anyways, i am still pursuing this whole after-hours scene but i don’t particularly like my chances. i hang out plenty of times in front of le club in the wee hours of the morning when the girls come out with their rolling luggage and look for cabs. it sheds a new light (no pun intended) on how the classy, semi-respectable girl you met inside transforms into a crass "puta" on the outside. sure, every girl is gonna play a role (and i like intelligence) but there are some (few) girls who, while not nobel laureates, are decent human beings regardless of where they work. my point is that this group of girls probably tends to go straight home, not hang out at some male and alcohol-infested bar at 5am. what does that say about me? haha.
yeah, i guess i really blew my load on this report. hope it informs or entertains, or both.
pce
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"please do not write in chat room style with all small letters and no punctuation. "
man, i love this site! talkin' about girls. where english literacy and style are a must. i must say that i am extremely impressed by the with and intelligence exhibited on this forum.
anyways, i have been reading posts for about 4 months, with much interest, but for reasons unknown never activated a membership. honestly didn't know i could post for free. so i was "that guy": soaking up useful knowledge without contributing my share. just thought i'the attempt to change that.
my time in gc is quickly coming to a close, and i've been out and about, trying to make sure i leave with no regrets and no stone unturned. that is, unless la linea qualifies as a stone. not my style. i am a regular at le club, but my favorite girl left about a month ago and i haven't found another there quite as good. so i have changed residences and now frequent mediteranee. just a bit cheaper, elegant, and wow, easily the most beautiful girls i have seen at a club here. thanks to whoever it was who (finally) posted it. because i had never heard of it before.
i have been to men’s and venus a couple times, mostly with the intention to get laid and get a buzz going before i head to the more expensive joints. i rarely pay for servicio, but when i do, that 200q price differential seems so important. call me a cheapskate. inevitably, i have left feeling disappointed, but luckily a bit more intoxicated. i’m sure everyone knows the "girl naked dancing on stage vs. girl naked in the room upstairs" factor. funny how much the right lighting can transform a girl into a stunning beauty – shedding pounds and concealing stretch marks. i find that this "factor" increases exponentially at the lower-end clubs.
before coming to gc, i was a rookie in the scene. a couple days in bangkok was my sole "experience. " but i love latin women, and luckily the fine gentlemen of the forum were there to help expand my horizons. before i knew about the forum, i cut my teeth at (i’m not ashamed to admit) elite in zona 10. i got my a$$ handed to me! that’s what i call a formative experience. sure, i had a wild threesome and all, but i was raped in every sense of the word. some of you out there are laughing at me right now. suffice it to say i learned that night about the concept of a "chica drink. " wtf! (sorry, is that chat room style? ) never again. i still laugh when the taxistas try to encourage me to go there. "no soy turista – no soy gringo tonto, " i say.
this week i went to 10-54 (aka club fenix; the maseros wear nba t-shirts with the phoenix suns logo – cool! ). asked about servicio price (300q), finished my beer, promised andrea i would return (i am a liar! ), and jetted. pretty lame. met an evangelical taxi driver who ended up explaining biblical passages to me for at least 30 minutes outside my house, which i found to be extremely hilarious, considering he had just introduced me to le palace and country club (off of roosevelt, near trebol). if you like le club, and would like to save about 40%, i would recommend le palace. upsides: 25q for a beer, compared to 40-45q; 400q servicio, compared to 600q. if you do the chica drink thing, 60q compared to 90q. downside is, i guess, the area. zona 11 if i am not mistaken. but i felt plenty safe with lots of security. then again, i can be a bit more "adventurous" than most. but le palace has all the works that le club has: insanely attentive waiters, long catwalk stage for dancers, comfortable sofas, and a small contingent of cute girls (aside from mediteranee, i have never found a high percentage of girls that would ever interest me; le club just gets a volume discount). but 2-3 hot girls at one locale is enough to satisfy me. one block down from le palace is country club. i arrived at 12:45 so i didn’t go in, but the taxista claimed (dubiously, i presume) that the girls were of equal quality. he also said that servicio costs 75q. so my highly analytical mind put two-and-two together, and it did not equal that a nice-looking girl would not be smart enough to relocate one block away for 5 times the money (yeah, simplistic, i know, but still). however, in the interest of scientific research, i will visit country soon to do some comparative shopping. apparently there is a show, which is always appreciated.
oh yeah, had the best (pro-style) sex ever at le palace that night. had to wait an hour (it was monday, and mostly dead) staring at a lineup of girls on the far side of the room who were as equally bored as i was. but she appeared divinely, like a gift sent from above (literally, actually, since she had been upstairs in vip), as if answering the mental image of the girl i wanted that had been forming in my mind. very small-chested, to be honest, but other than that, a toned petite body, beautiful face, and perfect ass. 10 minutes later we were upstairs, and discovered that this nica was totally uninhibited. claimed to have drank 3 bottles of whisky in vip, but who cares – whatever works. before i knew it, she was delivering an expert bbbj (first time i have ever not been covered for anything, but i was in the moment) and then rode me for a couple minutes, which i was enjoying just fine. then i felt her lift up, grab my piece, and slide it (nice and slow) a bit further south. ok, now i was in heaven, and she had the rhythm to keep me there. few minutes later, i told her "ahorita yo atras" (still haven’t figured how to be slick about commencing doggie style in spanish) and she immediately readied herself, in perfect position while i continued doing her greek and fingering her at the same time. she loved it, with her hands pressed against the mirrored wall. i couldn’t last long that way, and i didn’t. whenever it was anatomically possible, she dfk me like i was water, and she had just spent a month trekking across the sahara. i was ready to chill and wind things down, but she wanted more, a lot more. i was like, it’s not gonna work for about 5 minutes, but she said, well, you have a tongue and hands, right? yes, yes i do! luckily i was soon ready for another round, during which she begged for "mas duro, mas duro. " this i can do as well.
so, i guess i will be maligned for not handing out names like candy, but i offer some. this particular girl won’t be hard to find if you have any sense at all, but i refrain from distributing a name due to sheer, near-term post-coital jealousy.
i will say that there was a huge difference between this girl’s real ecstasy and the oft-heard "ewww, quuuuueee riiiicooo. " that phrase makes me sick, even when i hear it from the other (non-pro) girls i date here, who are not paid porn actresses. it’s nice when you can transcend the line between client and chemistry. it is so rare. i wish "que rico" worked for me, but i also wish that ugly, fat girls turned me on.
i have been to cats, and thought it sucked. nasty girls, but i was right up against the stage and possibly didn’t see the diamonds in the rough. the 3 that did approach me were rebuffed quickly. capricho’s is excellent in terms of sexy girls, but i have not had the best experiences the two times i went. actually took a fine columbiana to the back room; this was the night that i learned to be careful when selecting the "top shelf girls. " normally i can warm them up with a few jokes, etc. but she was still obviously arrogant and frankly not even doing the normal, solicitous flirting that i have grown accustomed to. (yeah, all of us are so handsome, funny, etc. , aren’t we? ). but still i wanted her, and paid for it with a lousy, uninspired performance on her part.
i think it’s important to grease the wheels a bit. 10-20q for the woman upstairs (as previously posted) is a must. i tip 5q every 3rd drink or so. i have loyal waiters who know exactly what i drink, what i smoke, and what i like in terms of a girl. all that is no big deal, aside from the ego-inflation that everyone tends to enjoy. but. it also helps deter random skanks from approaching every few minutes, because they are ushered away en route. if i want a girl, i will ask for her. end of story. i also probably save some money in the long run; at le club, i am never pressured to drink faster or buy more. they know somedays i will sit for an hour with one beer, but it’s very likely that the next time i will have 5 or 6. let’s see – who else do i tip? at mediteranee i tip the door man 5q (yeah, not much) because i like him, he stands on the street for 5-10 minutes looking for a cab, and more importantly, he is the gate-keeper for the girls. no more threats to one of my girls for a 1000q fine if she leaves after work. oh yeah, i tip the guy in the restroom at le club about 10-15q total per visit (to the club, not the restroom). this has no strategic value that i know of.
platino’s is cool. i was doing my usual thing, chilling out and putting out my "don’t talk to me" aura, drinking gallo or monte carlo or corona, who knows. as is typical, the bravest of the bottom-feeders approached me. "por que estas solito? " i am always cordial, doing the whole meet and greet, exchanging nationalities and 5-minute versions of our respective life stories. i can always use a free spanish lesson or country orientation or gossip about the other girls (i always meet the one good girl in the club who has never done drugs, yet everyone else in the place is a crack *****; am i naïve? haha). then comes, of course, "buy me a drink? " to which i reply, "no, sorry, i am just here to relax and look. another time maybe. " instantly: kiss on the cheek, and this friendly girl develops sudden-onset multiple personality disorder. "c’mon, just one. blah blah blah. " sorry, but would you like a cigarette?
anyways, ariana at platino’s was a fantastic and memorable experience. i can’t stand a girl that doesn’t kiss, and she was extremely passionate. she fucked the shit out of me, and vice versa. total gfe (see, i am learning). kinda makes me wish all my real-life gfe’s lasted only 30 minutes.
by way of wrapping up, i started a practice long ago of forging relationships with girls outside the clubs. why pay 600q for 30 minutes when i have the assets and intellectual ability to get much more out of the deal? so, i am very picky about selecting one girl at each of my favorite clubs. i winnow the field by physical appearance of course, and of the remainder, i have always been fortunate enough to find one girl who really suits my interests. i like a girl i can converse with. the majority of the time i don’t pay for servicio in-house, and never outside. i do pay for a chica drink, sometimes several, at least the first night. the investment is well-worth it, and it’s tried and true for me. i have a pile of cell phone numbers in my house, and have not once been given a wrong number. i am not malevolent in getting numbers in any way. i don’t inflate my income or my intentions (very few of the girls really want to go to gringolandia anyways). 90% of the time, the girl offers me her number first. several times i have gotten calls on my way home in the taxi. now, it could be that i have certain advantages: i am relatively young (<30), in good shape and most importantly can banter and flirt (even in spanish) with the best of them. add the (huge) gringo factor and blue eyes, and it might help explain why i am currently dating 4 girls using strictly conventional methods. i digress, but i think it’s ridiculous to spend money and ultimately be unfulfilled when there is an alternative.
so sometime during a conversation, i simply mention, off-hand, about going to get something to eat sometime. i mention that i know it has to be lunch since they are working at nights. i never try for sundays; it’s too much of a commitment and honestly, these girls deserve the sleep or family time they get on sunday. i ask if they have ever had sushi or tapas, and of course they haven’t. i love tapas y canas and sushi lounge, so why not invite a guest. by the time we have our first lunch, the deal is pretty much set. nothing malicious about it (even when i can relate my "planning" so candidly). from that point on, i have a beautiful girl who i really actually enjoy and gets treated with respect. i know her real name, her real story, and when she comes over to my house at 3am after work, she initiates sex with me instead of vice versa. the only money involved is me paying for her taxis to see me, infrequent lunch dates, and a few well-though-out gifts. example: one girl is currently down in nicaragua visiting her daughter and family. she had invited me to visit her in leon if/when she and i were both there. i told her, yeah, but i don’t think your little girl would appreciate some strange gringo taking up her mom’s time. true, she said, her daughter is extremely jealous and wary of any strange man. little later, on the pretext of "bribing" for her daughter’s affection, i asked her what would do the trick. well, she says, her daughter loves photos. so i bought her a disposable camera to bring to her daughter, along with a bit of money to develop the film. i told her to get copies made, so the daughter could keep one set and the others she could bring back and show me.
another example: i make sure i keep notes of girls birthdays, and then promise to get them something during my travels. doesn’t have to be a birthday, whatever. the girls never ask for much. one asked me for a stuffed animal. instead, i asked her favorite colors and bought her a couple name-brand shirts (45q each at a boutique across from los proceres), which she adores. i don’t buy anything expensive, lest the girl stop seeing me and start seeing my wallet. many girls tell me about their ‘novios’ in the states who send them money from overseas, or have taken them on expensive trips to antigua, or bought them truly expensive gifts. sure, i guess these types may just be charitable souls, but they seem more like suckers (we are all, to some degree, i know) to me. one girl i see told me that she didn’t even like her foreign suitor; he bought her a laptop – she sold it. throwing money at a girl is the surest way to get abused, in my opinion. they are, after all, female: something cute and sentimental pays dividends.
to be honest, the non-pro girls i date here are far more "gold-digging" than the girls i meet at clubs. go figure. this same girl has arranged for her sister to pick me up at the bus station and stay at her house when i visit nicaragua next week. i guess everyone has their own style, but i much prefer building some kind of personal bond. makes me feel better, and the sex – at the very least. is much better imho.
the only downside is you are kinda "committed" to one girl at each place. if you are weak-hearted like me, you have to withstand a bit of jealousy when you see your girl buttering up another customer. it has only happened once or twice to me, arriving "too early" or "too late. " luckily i never had to witness one of them head "out back" or "upstairs" with another customer. seems like most guys on this forum have little problem with this type of sentimentality; but hey, man, i’m young. another point is that (unless i am wholly naïve) that the ‘servicios’ and ‘todos las noches’ don’t occur nearly as often as i might have imagined. at the upscale clubs, the girls are definitely not oversexed by in large. i am still trying to figure out how these girls make the salaries they say they do; with the math i did, it just didn’t add up. most guatemalan guys come to drink, and a large share of them to sit and stare and drink with their crew. i think the real money is made from the endless botillas in vip, not the 30-minute sessions in back. the frenetic activity occurs in vip, not the not-so-revolving side door.
again, like i said, anyone who operates like i do will be "committed" within those confines. maybe some like to sample within the same location; i’m fine with different girls in different places. i have had a few chicas "enojada" or "celasa" when i talk to another girl. much of it is just feigned for dramatic purposes, but some of it is real. i had one girl refuse to talk to me for the rest of the night because i was flirting with someone else. but then again, your trusty masero can always bail you out. i prefer to just flirt with anyone else i am attracted to in less visible ways. after all, the other girls are competitive (to put it nicely) or back-stabbing (to put it accurately). really, you have to find the tenuous balance between being seen as a "player" (in which no girl will trust you to meet outside) and a "sucker" (consequences are self-explanatory). i personally have never had the occasion, or desire, to attempt "changing" girls. any new relationships within a certain club have transpired when (a) the primary girl is not working (i. e. week-long vacation back to nicaragua) or (be) no longer works there (i. e. major surgery; yeah –sucks).
the other thing i like about gc, besides talking to taxi drivers (always interesting), is the police. when i was first here in 2005, i was a central american novice, i was scared sh#tless by the cops. maybe the year-long stint in iraq between then and now changed my attitude about what constitutes "danger. " side note: no, i am not one of those jarhead ignorant fucatks who shows up at the club with their posse, oozing gringo stereotypical behavior. my military experience belongs to a former life. moving on: got stopped in zona 3 one time, and i was fully prepared to hand over all of my possessions. luckily, my friend was fluent and level-headed, and refused to pay the propina. this time around, i have had several more encounters with guatemala’s finest. it’s always the same drill – what are you doing (at 3am in zone 9 for example)? have you been drinking? do you have a gun? drugs? passport? me: "i am waiting for a taxi, or (if i am feeling cheeky) i am standing here. si, estaba tomando. no, no tengo armas. ni drogas. here’s a copy of my passport. "
it’s almost comical, and – dare i say – fun, now. i think normally they are just astounded that i am really not afraid. why do they always think i have a gun, anyways? it’s ridiculous. last night i left my smokes in the taxi, so i walked a block (in zona 15) to the 24-hour pharmacy. it was about 4am. two motorcycle cops (riding each other, you know how it goes) pass, consider me, and then circle around to harass me. twenty minutes later, they finally "give up" on me because i am clearly enjoying the process. first, the obligatory pat-down (no, not the part i enjoy). then, the interview. me explaining that it would be stupid to carry my original passport, and that’s why i have a copy (covered with girls’ phone numbers and taxistas’ recs, no less). finally we spend about 10 minutes discussing my phone (treo, seems to really impress the ladies and apparently works with the pnc as well). i tell them it retails for $300-$400 but i got it online for $40 (true). one guy wants me to sell it to him. can’t, i say – all the girlfriends and family’s numbers are inside. how about a gift, he says. sure, no problem, would you like a cigarette (as i pull them out and extend the pack)? yes, they would. but what about another gift, he continues. he means money, and he already knows i have some from the search. well, i would like to invite you for a beer, i reply. when do you get off? we discuss the difficulties inherent in our respective schedules, but i offer them a beer or two anytime. so i give them my cell # and they ride off into the night.
basically, i find that with a little ingenuity (aka "game") you don’t have to depend on your wallet (though it is definitely a strategic prerequisite) to develop relationships, and learn about this country a bit less superficially than most.
well, i really would like to meet some of the vets out there (db, i am talking to you! ). i won’t have the pm feature anytime soon (not before i leave guate that is) but i would like to meet up with some compadres at a time/place of your choosing (upscale, preferably; say, le club). i am headed to honduras and nica soon, so hopefully it can happen in the next couple days. i promise to reveal some other names i have selfishly been keeping for myself. after that, law school awaits me in the states (what do they call it, "sex prison? ").
oh yeah, a taxista in el salvador gave me a great idea (or so i thought at the time). he said all the lips and other working girls in ss headed to an after-hours bar after work. he told me the right guy could buy the right girl a couple drinks and the rest would be "gratis. " i never had a chance to probe further, but i did find one bar right by (back, left if viewed from the hotel entrance) the hotel marriott. i was told it’s called la libertad but last night i confirmed it’s called el sol. there is another after-hours bar called la pupuseria (yeah, bc they sell pupusas! ) right there. anyways, it’s slightly shady but looks like a regular bar (not on the same terms as the bar in front of le club – that place is a hell hole). same idea: working girls meeting up for a drink after work. i was there 3 times and did see a few girls i recognized (even the afore-mentioned arrogant columbiana that i did), but mostly skanks. met a huge but amicable woman who was obviously not a prostitute but well-worth talking to. she offered to set me up with at a couple beautiful flacitas. we’ll see if she delivers. anyways, i am still pursuing this whole after-hours scene but i don’t particularly like my chances. i hang out plenty of times in front of le club in the wee hours of the morning when the girls come out with their rolling luggage and look for cabs. it sheds a new light (no pun intended) on how the classy, semi-respectable girl you met inside transforms into a crass "puta" on the outside. sure, every girl is gonna play a role (and i like intelligence) but there are some (few) girls who, while not nobel laureates, are decent human beings regardless of where they work. my point is that this group of girls probably tends to go straight home, not hang out at some male and alcohol-infested bar at 5am. what does that say about me? haha.
yeah, i guess i really blew my load on this report. hope it informs or entertains, or both.
pce
editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
New to the Forum. Just wrote a helluvah long report...but has not appeared yet. Do all reports have to go through the Moderator/Admin before being posted? Any idea how long that may take? Not impatient so much as not wanting my time writing all that to go to waste.
Please provide me with the name of the two restaurants were we ate. especially the italian joint stuffed with eye candy!
thanks,
"the one and only"
Dodger Bulldog
06-21-07, 21:16
Please provide me with the name of the two restaurants were we ate. especially the italian joint stuffed with eye candy!No problem:
Kacao - 2a. Avenida 13-44, Z 10 , Guatemala City, Ph. 2337-4188
Tre Fratelli - 2a Avenida 13-25, Z 10, Guatemala City, Ph. 2366-2678
DB
I am gonna give my info to Salvador (older looking, glasses, speaks English) at Le Club tonight. Hit me up if you'the like to exchange points of view. Good chance I will still be there anyways, then Med. After that.
Pce
Sarcasm much?
I would love to give more detailed info, but shit, DB has this forum locked down. Addresses, prices, etc. All detailed and accurate. I would add if I could.
I put Le Palace on the map (last night, Wednesday, was much more happening than Monday), and hopefully took Club Fenix off of it.
So, if anyone is looking for a place NOT to go: 10-54 (10th Ave.) Calle Marti, Zone 2
Last night I heard about a place called Moulin Rouge. Anyone heard of it and/or have an opinion?
Random question:
Can anyone confirm these 15Q drinks at Mediteranee on M-W? Has anyone actually paid this price?
I apologize for my lack of brevity, Fantasy. Must be that damn IL education. As my way of making up for your lost time, I suggest you enjoy some quality time with Perla at Le Palace. I promise you'll feel better afterwards!
Pce
Hey DB
Is that the Italian place right around the corner from the InterContinental?
Out-door tables? If so, I was there the night of a Olga Tanon concert...
P.R. singer who was singing at the Camino Real.
1-2 hours prior to the concert, the place was packed with local females.
$$$ professional women or from wealthy families, but they were getting trashed at the bar, and looked very hot. Spoke with a couple at the bar, but no chances as they had tickets for the show, and never saw them again.
But I know Friday nights are full.
Another place I am fond of, but is hit & miss with the presence of chicas, is the place about 3 blocks down from the I.C., called "El Establo", owned by a couple of german guys.
Also some cool bars in Zona 4....1/2 the price as zona 10, and wall to wall on Friday & Saturdays. All kinds of different bars/different music.
Locals tell me "zona 4 is what zona 10 was like 5 years ago. Cheap and lots of action."
eric7
Dodger Bulldog
06-22-07, 03:44
Yes, Tre Fratelli is where the wealthy Ladinas hangout.
They are not going to be impressed by any gringo's money short of Bill Gates. The wealthy in Guatemala can buy and sell Americans 100 times over.
It's worth a visit just to check them out. They sure do like nice!
DB
Here are some of my favorite spots to crash or grab a bite.
In zona 1
Hotel Fenix 7 Ave. 15-81 (phone 251-6625) is only Q50 for two people.
Hotel Colonial 7 ave. 14-19 is nice for Q140 for the nice rooms w/ priv bath
In zone 10
Hotel y Restaurante Los Proceres 16 calle 2-40 (phone 363-0746) is safe and convenient. internet cafe in lobby w/ newpapers too. rooms are about Q300 if i remember. this place takes credit cards too.
Hotel Mayastic 5 ave 11-23 (phone 331-0824) is close to zona 10 nightlife. has deck with view. was about Q200 last visit.
The best place to eat is 'Del Tingo Al Tango' 12 calle 4-05 in zone 9. They have imported argentinian beef. This place is a great steakhouse. The Delmonico is Q100.
Dodger Bulldog
06-23-07, 19:09
Well, I really would like to meet some of the vets out there (DB, I am talking to you! ).Not likely, G And T, as I live back in the States now. Too bad you didn't let me know when I went to Guatemala for a week in May, as I would have been happy to meet you.
I have no idea when (or if) I will return. But if Spirit keeps running those bargain fares, the odds are definitely better that I'll go back.
I enjoyed reading your take on Guate, and am glad that you mentioned more clubs in other Zonas. I know that there is a whole hell of a lot more out there than has ever been reported on this board.
It is interesting that we sought the same thing, but in completely different ways. In order to get the chicas' attention so that you could interest them in seeing you outside the club you bought them drinks, and did not like to pay for servicio.
I always passed on the drinks and would pay for one session in the club, so that they would get to know me intimately and build the trust to see me on the outside.
You would ask them out to lunch, and avoid Sundays. I worked during the day and could never have done lunch, but I often had one over to my home on a Sunday.
I found that very few of them had anything better to do. Their families were far away in Nicaragua or Honduras, and they were sick of seeing the same girls they worked with every night and hung with all week in the dormitorio.
They would jump at the chance to get out of there and come spend the day at my place. Especially when I offered to cook them dinner.
Also, while you state that you pretty much stuck to one girl in a club for fear of being labeled a player, I found that doing that was counterproductive. When a chica thought she "owned" me, she would begin to take me for granted, stand me up, and let me down a lot more often.
When she saw one her friends come home with me (or go upstairs in the club for servicio), it definitely seemed to increase the incentive to become the "chosen one" for the next weekend. I imagine that it was a competition thing, and that one would lord it over the other that she had now won my attention.
It just goes to show that we can take completely different approaches and still be effective. There is not just one way to play the game.
I caution anyone about drawing firm conclusions about the talent level at any given club based on what they see at any given moment. Talent comes and talent goes, and the level of quality is very fluid.
In May my friend Fantasy was disgusted with what he saw at Paradiso, to the point that he struck it from an updated map that he created. I agree with him that there was no one worth doing at the time, but that won't always be the case.
I don't doubt your statement that Cats sucked when you went there, as I have seen it suck, too. But I will as tell you that in October '05, it had the highest quality of talent of any club in Guatemala. None other was even close.
But do be aware that one of the managers at Cats is a total prick. He once told a girl not to have servicio with me; since I hadn't bought enough drinks (he doesn't make a commission off servicio). And she complied!
So I grabbed the very next one who walked by and hustled her upstairs. Lucky for me, she turned out to be the blowjob queen of all of Guatemala!
The talent level of the various clubs goes down as girls leave to return home, then rises when there is a new influx of chicas.
What happens is that a manager from a club goes on a recruiting trip and stops in Nicaragua, El Salvador, and Honduras, to scoop up the best girls he can find. With promises of untold riches awaiting them if they come work for him, he convinces them to hop on a bus to Guatemala and live in the club's dormitorio.
So there will be an infusion of hot girls all at once. A few are depressed and head home within a week. The majority will stay for 3-4 months or until the next major holiday comes along before they go home. Only a select few thrive and make it for the long term, occasionally going back to see their families but returning over and over again to work in Guate.
Le Club is probably the only place that consistently has top quality. The other clubs can fluctuate wildly.
I once wrote off Capricho's as a vast wasteland and only went back six months later when I hosted an out-of-towner who insisted that we do so. I was shocked when I returned to find that it was now packed with gorgeous chicas!
So if you read here that someone says that Platino's or Cats of Paradiso or Men's Club is worthless, keep in mind that they are probably correct, but only for the week they visited. It can and will change.
You describe a negative experience at Venus, but I pulled two of my top three GFEs from there. One of them still emails me on a regular basis. And hell no, I don't send her any money.
Not that she hasn't asked for it every now and then...
Any of the mainstream clubs just might have the best talent during the particular week that a monger makes is visit to Guatemala. So I encourage everyone to check them all out!
DB
Diamonds are all over the "rough", its all timing. I do agree with you here DB.
Krishnamurti
06-27-07, 02:26
Hi, i live in Guatemala City and the best of all places is called GARDEN's
Go there and you tell me later okHello. Friend! I am thinking to see If I could get a job in Guatemala for temporally. Is it possible a american could work there?
Dodger Bulldog
06-27-07, 06:13
I put Le Palace on the map
Can anyone confirm these 15Q drinks at Mediteranee on M-W? Has anyone actually paid this price? Can you give the address for Le Palace? Or directions?
Actually, I had real good luck at 10-54 on Calle Marti in Zona 2. As I have said the quality varies everywhere from time to time. Don't be writing places off too quickly. Check out my report from last year:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=468853&postcount=225
Yes, I have had 15Q beer at Mediteranee. Just ask for it. It is the off brand, Brahma. They may have a cheap rum for that price also.
DB
I apologize for my lack of brevity, Fantasy. Must be that damn IL education. As my way of making up for your lost time, I suggest you enjoy some quality time with Perla at Le Palace. I promise you'll feel better afterwards!
Pce
Why are you talking about strip clubs in Panama City in the Guatemala thread. You are confusing the "Dodger"!!
Dodger Bulldog
06-28-07, 07:55
Met an evangelical taxi driver who ended up explaining Biblical passages to me for at least 30 minutes outside my house, which I found to be extremely hilarious, considering he had just introduced me to Le Palace and Country Club (off of Roosevelt, near Trebol). If you like Le Club, and would like to save about 40%, I would recommend Le Palace. Upsides: 25Q for a beer, compared to 40-45Q; 400Q servicio, compared to 600Q. If you do the chica drink thing, 60Q compared to 90Q. Downside is, I guess, the area. Zona 11 if I am not mistaken. But I felt plenty safe with lots of security. Then again, I can be a bit more "adventurous" than most. But Le Palace has all the works that Le Club has: insanely attentive waiters, long catwalk stage for dancers, comfortable sofas, and a small contingent of cute girls (aside from Mediteranee, I have never found a high percentage of girls that would ever interest me; Le Club just gets a volume discount). But 2-3 hot girls at one locale is enough to satisfy me. One block down from Le Palace is Country Club.I know where Roosevelt and Trebol are. If he is not talking about Guatemala City, then I am truely confused and fucked up!
DB
can you give the address for le palace? or directions?
actually, i had real good luck at 10-54 on calle marti in zona 2. as i have said the quality varies everywhere from time to time. don't be writing places off too quickly. check out my report from last year:
http://www.internationalsexguide. info/forum/showpost.php? p=468853&postcount=225
yes, i have had 15q beer at mediteranee. just ask for it. it is the off brand, brahma. they may have a cheap rum for that price also.
dbsorry for delay. i am in tegucigalpa, honduras and have been shacked up with a local hottie for the last 48 hours. myspace, love it. sure, this is not the honduras forum but i will offer some quick thoughts before i answer the questions above. i started out monday night at a place called karafurana or something like that. it is directly across from el patio restaurant on blvd morazan. open til 2am, $3 equivalent cover and beers are about $1. 50. 4 dancers, 2 extremely hot and 2 that would have been hot enough had i not seen the first two. all exceptionally thin and toned. the quality of the girls was extremely surprising considering the quality of the bar. normally there is a corrolation. problem is that it's not nude, bikinis only, and the girls apparently are not for sale. so i proceeded to ilusiones, now called divas, by the airport. nasty, nasty, nasty. the bathroom reeked of [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109), but at least it was a temporary haven from the girls! i left after one beer and asked the taxi driver to take me back to the first place. i was one of the last to leave, and noticed that all the girls were driven away in the same van. maybe to prevent the bar from losing their talent to prowlers like me. several of them called at me, but i just laughed and walked away. i am sure it's a good place to develop an off site relationship. anyways, the taxi driver told me that friday and saturday nights the flacitas come out to play at divas, but i am sufficiently traumatized not to try my luck again for a long time. also checked out a place called tourist club on the way. the dj from divas was sharing the cab with me and went in with me to assist in the search, but to no avail. tegus sucks. and i say that with firm conviction despite dbs wise words. thank god for regular girls here.
ok, yes, the le palace i refer to is in guate. it is one block away from country club on the same street. i don't know the exact address because i got drunk both times and forgot to ask. it is off roosevelt, heading toward tikalfutura away from zona viva. near trebol. sorry, i know that's convaluted but best i can do at the moment. i owe you a better answer.
i asked about the 15q beers at mediteranee and got a similar response, only they quoted me 20q. but yes, brahva only for beer. not my favorite, but worth paying almost half. thanks much for the info.
finally, you are 100 percent correct about not writing places off. i don't realy, although i guess i could be more clear in my assessments on this forum. i never look for a harem of gorgeous models. that would of course be dumb in this business. that's why one or two is good enough for me, and why i continue to make runs into men's, venus, etc. bc yes, the girls change all the time. that's a good thing in my opinion.
pce
editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
I'm planning a visit to Guatemala City but due to some issues I need a hotel close to zona 11 somebody told about a hotel near, said it was close to Pacific Center and there was another close to Galerias del Sur but i need the names of the hotels to make the resevations in advanced, and also if there any girl action close to zona 11
Dodger Bulldog
07-04-07, 00:30
On June 15 I discussed how Americans can be suspected of baby stealing in Guatemala, and precautions that you should take (see post 357 on this thread.
Today I received this official warning from the American Embassy in Guatemala.
As with most government warnings, it tends to be sensationalized. But do take care not to arouse any suspicion.
DB
_________________________________________________________________
July 3, 2007
Dear American Citizen:
The following is a warden message concerning rumors of child stealing. Please contact the American Citizen Services section via e-mail (amcitsguatemala@state.gov), fax (2326-4655), or telephone (2326-4405) if you have any questions.
Particularly virulent rumors of child stealing and of murder for organ harvesting have recently surfaced in two separate areas of Guatemala frequented by American tourists. On June 15, 2007, a Guatemalan child from Camotan, Chiquimula (near the border with Honduras, on the main road leading from Guatemala to the Copan Mayan ruins) was found dead and mutilated. Three local women who allegedly acted as go-betweens for foreign adoptions were accused by a mob of kidnapping and killing the girl. One of these women was killed by the mob and the other two were severely injured. Locals burned a police car in nearby Jocotan, and forced the police out of Jocotan and Camotan.
Since late May 2007, rumors have been circulating in the El Golfete area of the Rio Dulce near Livingston, Izabal of babies being stolen from neighboring villages by armed men. Local authorities did respond to villagers' reports, but were not able to confirm any such cases. Despite that response, residents of small villages in the area remain mobilized and suspicious of all outsiders, including foreigners.
Another incident in Cunen, Quiche resulted in a local riot with travel on the road from Cunen to Santa Maria Nebaj temporarily interrupted while the PNC re-establishes control. Americans are advised to exercise caution in these areas.
Rumors of child stealing have resulted in the lynching deaths of several Guatemalan citizens this year. Although no foreigners have been reported to be the victim of such attacks recently, Americans are reminded to avoid gatherings of agitated people. Avoid close contact with children, including taking photographs, especially in rural areas. Such contact can be viewed with deep alarm and may provoke panic and violence.
Americans traveling abroad should regularly monitor the Department's web site at http://travel.state.gov where the current Worldwide Caution Public Announcement, Travel Warnings and Public Announcements can be found. The U.S. Embassy in Guatemala City can be reached at (502) 2326-4405 and is located at Avenida Reforma 7-01, Zone 10. The after-hours telephone for American citizen emergencies is (502)2331-2354.
Dan D Dick
07-09-07, 15:16
A few coimments from a 1st time visitor to Guatemala City.
The Marriott is not up to par with other Marriotts. Unfortunate for us Platinum guys but that's the way it is. Location is fine but the beds are the older style that are way to hard; the linen should be replaced & the concierge room is fairly usesless on weekends. And there's a booming baby business at the hotel.
Bottom line - GUA is overpriced compared to other L.A. destinations IMO. Yes I know I get hit a little for the gingo tax because I'm so obvious & my spanish is so poor. Certainly others could do better & I would do better if I were to be there awhile. A basic one hour romp at a local MP with all the frills is four times higher than in many other countries. Any way you cut it, 500Q for an hour is expensive compared to Ecuador ($7-15+), Costa Rica (10,000 C or $20) & many parts of Mexico (Monterrey). Granted it's for a full hour but still...
The MPs are pretty difficult to find. I've attached some newspaper ads with addresses & phone numbers to help anyone who's headed there in the near future.
As to the girls....now that I've had Guatemalan I have to say I enjoyed it. For the most part looking through WASP-colored glasses, the local gals are a little heavy on the hoof, coarser looking & tend not to take advantage of what make-up can offer. Yes there are a few local stunners but percentage-wise they're few & far between. My experience with the local gals was that just about anything was available with enthusiasm for a modest propina. I enjoyed myself but those with high expectations would likely not be happy.
The strip clubs with service (like Le Club) are very nice and very expensive by L.A. standards. Again, I had a great time with a little Nica & I have no regrets. But it's not the kind of place where I could afford to go every night. By the time I paid the cab fare (50 Q after dark) my drinks, a few drinks for her, a tip for the towel gal and a decent propina for her I was down nearly $200US. Had a good time & it wasn't real quick but still..... Okay, take away the gringo tax, the over-tipping and ladies drinks (do you really want to take away the ladies drinks???) & you're still going to be down a decent chunk of change.
With respect to Zone 1 & 2 - I had zero problems and wouldn't hesitate to walk the area again (in the daylight). Note that taxiis become relatively rare.
I've included a business card for a local cab driver who speaks very good English & seems to be a genuinely nice guy.
Bottom line - I had a good time, I could live there if necessary & I'll likely go back at some time. But as DB said, it's a poor location if your primary focus is to monger.
BTW - new airport open a week now (very nice, not quite complete). Remember to keep 20Q for your departure tax to be paid just before passport control.
/Dan D.
Thank you for your post Dodger B. Amazing stuff, eh? Local Guatemalans are suspicious of American tourists due to incidents of baby stealing and murders for the purpose of organ harvesting! Incredible.
I love the part where the US Dept of State warns all US citizens to:
"avoid gatherings of agitated people." (lol) :D
Thanks for the tips guys! Sharp as bowling balls they are! I'm going to go out on a ledge here and say that it probably wouldn't be a bad idea for an American citizen to avoid gatherings of agitated people in just about every corner of the globe!
Thanks though for the information D.B.
Dan D. Dick - nice report on the GUA scene for a first timer!
cheers all............
First trip to GT, I heard that Zona 10 is also called Zona Viva.
I will be staying at the Inter, what mongring is whithin walking distance.
Dodger Bulldog
07-17-07, 20:26
First trip to GT, I heard that Zona 10 is also called Zona Viva.
I will be staying at the Inter, what mongring is whithin walking distance.A few of the clubs in Zona 9 might be within walking distance (Capricho's, Paradiso), but for safety's sake please take a taxi. Seriously!
DB
Dodger Bulldog
07-18-07, 20:25
Another Warning from the American Embassy.
You don't want to monger in the areas mentioned anyway, as the chicas there leave a lot to be desired.
Stick to the clubs in Guatemala City and you should be safer and happier:
July 18, 2007
Dear American Citizen:
The following is a Warden Message concerning mob violence in the Petén as a result of rumors of child stealing, in an area frequented by American tourists driving between Tikal and Cobán. This is in addition to the Warden Message issued on July 3rd. Please contact the American Citizen Services section via e-mail (amcitsguatemala@state.gov), fax (2326-4655), or telephone (2326-4405) if you have any questions.
As of Tuesday, July 17, the highway between Flores, Petén Department and Coban, Alta Verapaz Department is unsafe to use and has been closed on repeated occasions. The ferry crossing near Sayaxché has apparently been shut down by the same mob that has lynched at least two individuals in the town of Sayaxche. Further, numerous vehicles including at least one with American citizen tourists were held overnight by mobs at roadblocks about 20 miles south of Sayaxche on the highway coming from Coban. Rumors of child stealing and of murder for organ harvesting have recently surfaced in many areas of Guatemala, some of which are frequented by American tourists. In numerous locations mob violence has resulted. On July 16 and 17, 2007 in Sayaxche, Petén child stealing rumors escalated into mob action against a Guatemalan couple believed to be involved in child stealing. The husband was beaten and burned to death, and the wife threatened and reportedly held by the mob for further punishment. A local American resident attempted to calm the mob and prevent burning of the police station, but was himself held by the mob and threatened with death. Army and police forces reentered Sayaxche on July 17, but the situation is not yet under control.
On July 1, 2007, two foreigners (including an American citizen) and a Guatemalan kayaking on a river near Chicaman, Quiche were seized by a mob estimated at 500 people as suspected child stealers. Although terrified, the individuals were not physically attacked, and were eventually turned over to local police and released. The incident occurred after the group talked and joked with a local boy on the riverbank.
Rumors of child stealing have resulted in the lynching deaths of at least 8 Guatemalan citizens this year. These incidents in Quiche and the Petén are the first this year of foreigners being targeted by such mobs. Americans are reminded to avoid all gatherings of agitated people. Even when acquainted with members of a mob it is extremely dangerous to attempt to reason with them. Bear in mind that mobs, by their nature, are emotional and irrational.
Avoid close contact with children, including taking photographs, especially in villages and rural areas. Such contact can be viewed with deep alarm and may provoke panic and violence.
How far are the mongering clubs from the Intercontinental?
Does anyone have addresses?
Also, does anyone know if the inter allows guests?
Thanks, in advance.
Dodger Bulldog
07-19-07, 13:53
Does anyone have addresses?I was happy to compile the links to several summary reports for you. These were written with intent to provide newbies and/or vistors who read the board with a broad overview of the scene in Guatemala.
You will find addresses and phone numbers for most of the clubs here:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=375283&postcount=159
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=512022&postcount=252
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=512401&postcount=254
I believe that there is a entire thread totally devoted to mongering in Guatemala. You may wish to consider perusing it out at your leisure.
It is possible that you could find a wealth of information and detail on many of the individual clubs. Possibly even many chicas, who may or may not still be working there. There are even some photos, if I recall.
The Guatemala board - check it out!
Welcome to Guatemala, Pepe. I'm envious that you are going there and I'm not, for the foreseeable future.
Hope you have a great time there!
DB
Thanks for the quick response. I will there next week. Will post my report then.
I have stayed at the InterContinental dozens of times and brought in girls many, many times. I have never had even remotely a problem. The security guys have never stopped me to inquire or given me any problems whatsoever. I would recommend that your guest dress casually and a bit conservatively and don't make your entrance too terribly late at night. Obviously, don't come prancing into the lobby at 3:00 a.m. with a chica in a mini-schoolgirl outfit, thong and her tits hanging out!
Dodger Bulldog
07-24-07, 05:24
Obviously, don't come prancing into the lobby at 3:00 a.m. with a chica in a mini-schoolgirl outfit, thong and her tits hanging out!But Nog, I LIKE tits that hang out!
Sometimes you're no fun, man.
Dodge
I've seen the women you hang with ...... and I would happily take Dodge's sloppy seconds any day of the week.
You are killing me, my friend!
TGAM-nog
Dodger Bulldog
07-24-07, 07:38
Dodge
I've seen the women you hang with ...... and I would happily take Dodge's sloppy seconds any day of the week.
You are killing me, my friend!
TGAM-nogWhat do you mean by you "would" Nog?
You have, my friend. You already have!
DB
Traffic777
07-24-07, 23:00
I think the guys on here who like GC chicas are either into fat women who have had a few kids (which is fine if that is your thing) or they are suffering from the "isolation syndrome" i.e. after a week on a desert island a female sheep will start looking good.
The fundamental problem is that (for me) the percentage of attractive women in GC is very low -- maybe 1 out of 50.
Most of the women were old, worn out, fat asses, kids, droopy tits, stretch marks, big bloated stomachs hanging over their bikinis. If that is your thing then you will be in pig heaven. Looking at the pics posted here -- I can see that this is par for GC.
Another thing is that GC is dangerous -- more so than your average third world country. Lots of hold ups all the time in broad daylight at gunpoint even in the "good" sections of town like Zone 9 and just on the main road from the airport -- whole hotel buses are getting cleaned out.
In summary, after a week, a few chicks in GC will start to look good. The sex can be full-on.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
This is funny, because you described my case exactly. At first, when I got to Guatemala and looked at the women I was like, "Oh, hell, no!" What turned me off most is not only the abundance of bloated stomachs/stretchmarks, but also that even many of the hotter ones look like men, their facial features. Maybe because of the Mayan heritage.
And they think of themselves as princesses too, even the fuglier ones, just like in Mexico! I blame Catholicism for putting pussy on such a high pedestal.
Well, a week of stroking went by, then another week... and then I'm like "hmm, they aren't that bad, afterall" hahaha, it's true. I'm looking at the pictures guys are posting here (thanks!) and now it seems funny, cause I've been doing similar chicas bona fide. My standards were definitely lowered in Guatemala, but still, good fun.
As far as danger, oh, it's real. It's not like everybody wants your blood the minute you step off the plane, but when your number's up, it's up. BBC says violence increased over the last years. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6643935.stm Funny how anytime I was walking in La Linea area of Zona 1 after dark (not recommended), strangers would come up to me to warn that it's dangerous here. Some of those strangers looked like they wouldn't mind robbing me myself. Seems like many accidents involving foreigners happen after the tourist leaves the airpot, or on his way there, be aware of that. http://guatemala.usembassy.gov/recent_incidents.html
I've had a broken bottle thrown in my head after the fuckers tried to rob me in Santiago hor house, on Lake Atitlan. They hit a girl with a chair, too. Nobody reported anything, of course. I know a tourist who had a shotgun pointed at her head when the whole bus was getting robbed. So, it happens, be careful out there. There's crime anywhere in the world, but don't bet on guatemalan cops to be there for you, that's for sure. "Guatemala has the worst record for impunity in Latin America," the BBC article reports.
Have to go there again on business at the end of October. Should be fun, I don't mind a little nastiness. Just have to close your eyes and think of Motherland! :))
touché …… The Great And Mighty Oz ...... I mean Dodge!
So I have my friend. And Dennise was truly one of the most incredible lays I have ever had. She was wonderful.
I will take your leftovers anytime, anywhere, at any cost. You be the master.
Noguera
Traffic777
07-25-07, 22:07
Guys, has anyone had any luck lining up non-pros through the dating websites before you go? If so, please share the tips. Where are the good places to go hook up with regular girls in Guatemala?
http://www.centroerotica.lunarpages.net/index.php
is a site with chicas/escorts.
Multiple fotos of the escorts, prices, lenght of time, and tele numbers.
It's not bad.
Also re Guatemala and it's crime scene, it's true.
But right next door, smaller El Salvador packs an equal punch. IMO.
Dodge, loved yr posts in CR.
You rock bro.
Later guys
eirc7
Dodger Bulldog
07-29-07, 13:26
Funny how anytime I was walking in La Linea area of Zona 1 after dark (not recommended), strangers would come up to me to warn that it's dangerous here.
I've had a broken bottle thrown in my head after the fuckers tried to rob me in Santiago hor house, on Lake Atitlan.Those who have gone before you have made a concerted effort to give sound advice to newcomers concerning where they should go and what to avoid, in order to optimize their experiences in Guatemala.
One may choose not to read the board or to simply ignore all the advice, but when one does, it is kind of silly to complain about things, as he has no one to blame but himself.
Anyone who finds himself walking La Linea in Zona One after dark, or anywhere near a working house in Lake Atitlan at any time of day, clearly has his own agenda.
You can not find one post in the last several years that recommended that anyone should try either of those things. Every single post that addresses either of those issues advises that one should not.
Would it be too impolitic to suggest that anyone who does so anyway maybe gets exactly what he deserves?
Your very report indicates that things may not be quite as bad as you have made it out to be, since you managed to live to tell the tale.
DB
What do you mean by you "would" Nog?
You have, my friend. You already have!
DB
.......the great "Noguera" is a bit of a poacher, isn't he?! :D
(but I still love him)
And not 30 seconds ago I trashed you on the Honduras thread. Now I feel bad. Well ... not really!
Dodge ...... no kidding man! Your comments are right-on regarding La Linea. Every guy that thinks he knows all about the "biz" by spending an evening at the Blue Marlin in San Jose ...... he don't know nothing until he has walked La Linea. You must second that motion Dodge. Hell ... you and I felt out of place and a bit uncomfortable walking La Linea at 3:00 pm on a sunny afternoon. One of the great adventures of my life. Did you ever post our photo of La Reina de la Linea? I don't know if I could have even gotten it up in the grungie, stinky, filthy little room ...... but for $5.26 I think maybe both you and I should have given it a try!
Attached might be a shot you sent me. So I give authorship to the Dodge. I like to title this photo "working on the railroad"!
TGAM-nog
No wonder I can never get any of the women in CenAm ...... they are all 10 times more intelligent than I am. I tried to upload a photo and it seemed to work, but where the hell is it now? Any advice on how to post a photo here? It seems that the system/method for posting photos has changed from the last time I posted any.
no longer "The Great And Mighty"-Nog
now it is the dull and dim-witted Nog !!!
I'll be traveling for the first time solo to Guatemala, and I need to know if you can recommend me a trusted taxi driver to take to all the nice places.
I tried this place www.masajessinlimite.com and had a good experience - they have incall and outcall at prices listed on the site. Was told about 15 girls available although not all do outcall. Located in zona 14 - not sure how much english is spoken.
Full Throttle
08-31-07, 17:53
Country Club
Note: roughly 7.5Q's to $1US, so about $13 for every 100Q's.
Had a quick trip to Guatemala City which allowed for one Friday afternoon and evening to explore and enjoy. We started with some beers in Zona 10, then went to Zona 4 where we tried every bar along the walking streets around “4 Degrees North.” We were both pleasantly surprised by the attractiveness on many of the girls on the street and in the bars.
In one bar, (La Playa, maybe?) the waiter told us two girls wanted to meet us. Sure enough, two pretty twenty-something girls were waving at us with smiles. I immediately assumed they were hookers, but then I’m an optimist. It turns out they were ordinary girls with jobs in real estate. They hung out for a while, never asked for a drink, laughed at all the right times even when my Spanish couldn’t keep up with the conversation. They eventually left leaving their email addresses and phone numbers. It was quite pleasant.
We then headed off to Zona 14 to attempt to find Le Palace. I figured we could stop at Country House at least to take a look on the way since it was so much cheaper. I was worried about finding either place, as my only other excursion in Guatemala 6 years ago involved going to clubs hidden behind dark facades. Not so in Zona 14. The Country House was lit up like a casino on the outside.
Entrada was 20Q, I think, and included a beer. It was quite crowded and we were the only gringos. The stage show was continuous, although the typically Central American practice of spending only a tiny percentage of the strip show completely naked was in effect. The practice of customers grabbing for the dancer’s crotch when within arms’ reach was also in effect.
There were around 20 girls. Perhaps one-third were doable and 10 percent were border-line hot. The first one I sat with was from Colombia. She was the best looking one I saw. She IMMEDIATELY asked for a drink. I told here I would buy a drink for the girl I chose for a programa. She left as quickly as she came, which is fine because my experience with Colombian girls over the years has been so-so. The next one I actually called over. She was a Nica, which surprised me because she was so pretty. I like Nicas in general, but they are usually not as pretty as the Costa Rican girls who are only so-so themselves.
Anyway, she was a true sweetheart. We went for a session in the back. The price quoted to me was 130Q, but somehow it cost 150Q. I’m sure there are condom fees or something. Rooms are quite small and there were no sheets to cover the vinyl bed.
We were having a great time. She gave a very nice BBBJ, but she became concerned because we only had 15 minutes total. So, I let her continue until about minute 13 and finished by traditional means. She had no contact information, but asked for my email address. So, I think I spent around 200Q including drinks for me and her and had a great time. I am looking forward to Le Palace next time, but wouldn’t hesitate to return.
Make It Up
09-01-07, 13:29
Good Day All!
I'll be heading to Guate in a week. This time, I'll be going to Monterrico and was wondering if anyone knew of good mongering spots around there?
Cheers,
Johnny
1st time in Guatemala
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I posted this also on travel thread but since I will be i Guat. city I trying here too. I have posted some on the US sex guide in OC CA
Got this great deal from lax with spirit air for $92.00 RT so I had to try it. Ill will be going to Guat. city from Sept 18 to 24. have been reading alot of posts .Any one down there want to meet for a drink and do some mongering. I am staying at the Marriott.
Some questions.
1a What is the best and most economical way to exchange money , hotel ,bank other places??
1b. It looks like it will be raining most of the week what is the best thing to do in the rain? early clubs?
2. I am interested in more long time with chicas what is the best way to go about that. places cost etc.
3. I am 50 but dont look it but after some mongering and drinks the blue pill can extend the fun Can you buy Viagra easy down there? like in Mexico.
4. Since I am at the Marriott are there any close places or should I just get a cab or both. also is Marriott chic friendly
Dodger Bulldog
09-15-07, 09:06
I'll answer what I can.
1. It looks like it will be raining most of the week what is the best thing to do in the rain? early clubs? There is really no such thing as "early" at the clubs in Guatemala. The only one I know of that is open, Casablanca's, always disgusted me thoroughly. For daytime action try MPs, or maybe escort services
2. I am interstest in more long time with chicas what is the best way to go about that. places cost etc.I hate to be negative again, but Guatemala's scene is not set up for long term. Paying for take-out and TLN is almost prohibitive, as most places will charge you $200 or up for this privilege.
Your best bet for TLN is Venus, where might be able to talk the manager into take out for 700-800 Q, or Men's Club, where you can try to interest a chica into coming back with you after they close at 2 PM, thus avoiding the salido.
Otherwise for longer term or daytime action, you might visit at night to get phone numbers and make arrangements during the day. I always had the best luck getting chicas to come over on a Sunday, when they are off work and there is virtually no other action to sample for yourself anyway.
3. I am 50 but dont look it but after some mongering and drinks the blue pill can extend the fun Can you buy Viagra easy down there? like in Mexico.Sorry, I have no knowledge of this. I would guess that you can find it. I always got a kick out of the fact that there biggest pharmacy chain also doubles as a tool store.
4. Since I am at the Marriott are there any close places or should I just get a cab or both.If it is still light out, you may be within walking distance of Capricho's, Paradiso, Venus, and perhaps Mediterraneo. For the others, take a taxi.
Some guys try to scare you about safety, but I never had a problem there. Nonetheless, discretion is the better part of valor and it is always wise to take the taxi after dark.
Like any place, you have to sort the wheat from the chaff, but there are lots of great chicas to be had in Guatemala. I am envious of your trip.
Have fun!
DB
Thank you DodgerBulldog for taking the time to help me out. I hope my 1st experience is a good one. I am also trying to make some hook ups though single datting sites they seem to be eager to meet me.
Oh yeah What is the best way to exchange money ? what would you suggest? again thanks for all your great info.
Check Spirit Airlines I found that I could got an even cheeper round trip than $92.00 they were paying us to fly but by the time you ad the taxes, surcharges and airport fees it came out about $80.00 or so round trip. Just get on there email list and they will email you these special, but act fast because they can go fast.
Dodger Bulldog
09-15-07, 17:35
The best thing to do is just withdraw a few days worth of cash from an ATM machine.
They give the best exchange rates and you are never carrying much cash or hiding it in your room if you do run into any problems.
Big John 1
09-24-07, 00:01
I tried this place www.masajessinlimite.com and had a good experience - they have incall and outcall at prices listed on the site. Was told about 15 girls available although not all do outcall. Located in zona 14 - not sure how much english is spoken.
Hi,Tried to bring this site up,but website down,says owner did not pay for it this place interests me can anyone help.I am in Hotel Sring Room 19,a fine hotel for this 63 year old monger and 12 bucks,anybody can pm me.Gracias,Big John 1
Thanks to all your posts specially the dog I had a great time in Guatemala city. It was my first time going to central America. I got a $92 RT deal direct from LAX with Spirit air, which is only reason I went. For $92 I said what the. I should try this. I also cashed in some hotel coupons at the marriott and got a 2 floor sweet for free. I was loving this so far.
A couple days before I left, I decided to try some single sites in guat. Like America cupid and match. I just said I was going down and I got a great responses. I had about 7 girls that wanted to meet me and I was almost overwhelmed.
When I arrived I had lunch and dinner with this nice girl and we hit it off. No sex but possible if I spent more time with her. So after supper with her I went to Venus club and met this VERY affectionate girl that I had to take back to the hotel. Her name was Ashly. She was a 7 or 8 but total GFE even in the club. I was in love. It was pricey though 1500 Q for the total evening till morning. As I said total GFE DFK BBBJ even made the mistake doing her bare back. She loved it and wanted to drain the vain of all I had. She was ready to slurp but I was drained. It was a great experience.
Next morning I met this fun girl I met on the Internet and we went to Antigua then back to the hotel and things got heated up. After a fun night we left in the am and she brought me to her county house many hours away. We had fun every night and she cooked for me etc. After 3 days there I took bus back to the city.
My 6 day trip was to come to an end but I was having too much fun and more women to see. I ended up extending my trip and extra 3 days. This one way ticket now cost me 2 times the original RT cost, but I was having too much fun. I had to switch hotels and first looked at Howard John sons. I just couldn't stay there so I stayed at the Built more which is right next to the Camino Real and you can use all the facilities, I think pool and gym ar 10$ if you want ot use them.
That night I tried to hook up with the 1st night gem but she never showed up not sure if she understood me on the phone, my spanish is bad and her English is nada.
Next night I sent to the Mens club. Thank God I had the address that the Dog posted because the cabis sure don't know these clubs, the men's club is totally hidden with no sign or any thing. My cabi had to ask some one if this was the club. It was so I went inside and had a couple of beers. This chick at the bar keep wanting to talk to me but I wasn't interested in her. I finally hooked up with this great chick marlu. We went to the back room, 300Q and as soon as she got me there she attacked me with great DFK. I knew she would be great and she was. She did not rush and in fact the bar was closing so I invited her back to my hotel and did not have to pay the bar fine. Well needless to say she was still great and another total GFE she even cleaned my room up and repacked my suitcase and gave me a long massage. I was in love. I asked at the club how much and she just said what ever. I probably make the mistake of giving her 1000Q in the late morning. Any way she ended up staying the next 2 nights. She bought a cell phone so I could call her I must say she was sweet. She even checked out with me and went to the gift shop and bought me some small presents. She got my heart. Mean while the girl who I stayed with for 3 days was calling me all the time and asking me ware I was.
So I had a great time in Guat. Made some new friends and still have people to contact the next time I go. The one girl I spent time with is not a working girl I talk to regular she speak perfect English. She might even visit me in the states.
I want to go back soon and revisit more of the non working girls who were so friendly to me. It is so different than the states. The girls and friendly and open and some are hot.
I will be back
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
This girl was nice and had her for 3 nites.
Dodger Bulldog
10-04-07, 23:08
I want to go back soon and revisit more of the non working girls who were so friendly to me. It is so different than the states. The girls and friendly and open and some are hot.
I will be backHey, Tom, welcome to the team. I'm glad you had a great time!
Some mongers come to Guatemala and whine and complain about the scene. It amazes me that anyone can immerse themselves among these chicas and not have a wonderful time.
You are so right about the chicas being completely different than any of the girls in America. It is nice to know that when they look at us, they realize that WE are the prize, and they are thrilled if they are the one who is lucky enough to catch our attention.
As you journey into other countries in Central America and South America you will realize that things just get better and better for you. It is great to be a gringo in a Latin country!
My poor friends who are too afraid to venture outside the States just have no idea.
No idea...
DB
Dodger you are right . I cant wait to go back and I want to now explore other countries as soon as finance allow me. I think us gringos are refreshing to the Latin women. I am a easy going person who respects women as a person and not machismo. With this they enjoy my company and I enjoy them. I have a good sense of humor so its fun to make them laugh.
I love the adventure going to a place I never been before alone. Being alone has its advantages. What makes it a lot easier is you guys sharing your experience so I don't have to go at this blindly. Why reinvent the wheel. reading these reports save me a lot of time and money and help take a lot of the risk out of the adventure. So thanks Dodger for your great reports and I really like your summery of the clubs . This was my guide even though I only made it to 2 of them I went to your high rated ones Venus and Mens club and had a GREAT time with the 2 chicks in each one bothy were worth repeating in fact I has one 3 nights.
Keep up the adventures guys
Superman06
10-20-07, 13:48
Whew! Reading TomSky's adventures in Guatemala City wore me out! Truly a great report.
Traffic777
10-26-07, 16:23
Party on, TomSky! Glad you had fun. Which dating websites did you use to hook up with non-pros?
I'm in Guate on Nov. 11, if anybody wants to get together for some Gallo and barhopping, hit me up. I speak decent Spanish and know the town a little (especially La Linea, lol)
BE CAREFUL!!! I came down to Central America for a one year contract in 1981. I'm still here and still loving it. Next time, don't forget about us over here in El Salvador. Most of the talent in Guate is from El Salvador, anyway!
Captain Easy
Does anyone know if the strip clubs require health certificates for the women in Guatemala? I'll be there Nov 10-13. Anyone going then?
Thanks,
Kdog
Traffic777
11-08-07, 23:20
Does anyone know if the strip clubs require health certificates for the women in Guatemala? I'll be there Nov 10-13. Anyone going then?
Thanks,
Kdog
You want to meet at Men's Club on Nov 12th night? I don't know about the health card, but we can ask together :)
Which hotel is closer to the action...Intercontinental or Holiday Inn?
Thanks in advance.
Dodger Bulldog
11-10-07, 00:45
Which hotel is closer to the action...Intercontinental or Holiday Inn?
Thanks in advance.No difference. They are around the corner from each other.
DB
I arrived on AA from MIA last night. $188 round-trip...can't beat that. I was very impressed with the airport in Guatemala. Immigration and Customs was a breeze. It was 15 minutes from plane to taxi.
Having never been to Guatemala before, I was on-guard watching for set-ups and corrupt cops. After getting in the airport taxi my two fears came true within seconds. Just as the taxi left the airport, I noticed a car driving next to us for about a minute. I glanced over and two suspcious characters in that car were staring me down. My mind started racing when a police siren broke my thoughts. We were getting pulled over. Two cops searched my stuff and then let us go. I don't know if this was just a strange unforntunate sequence or if some of these characters (taxi, police, other car) were working together to try and pull something off. Anyway, I made it to the Holiday Inn moments after and everything since then has seemed very safe.
I went to Elite first to take advantage of the $30 open bar deal and see some hot chicks. The women were ok...about what I expected. Can you believe they were asking $400-$500 for two hours! After about 8 rum and cokes, I headed to Platinos. This is my style club. Better looking women than Elite and much cheaper prices. I took a Mexican spinner to the room for $80 and had a good time. It would have been better if she wasn't so pre-occupied with the condom. The main drawback of Platinos for me was the waiters. They were hard to shake at times. Even the women I was sitting with would shoe them away.
By the way, the Holiday Inn area is nice with some nice clubs and restaurants nearby. I was also very surprised at how close Elite and Platinos were to the Holiday Inn.
Does anybody have suggestions for a place to go on Sunday night? The taxi driver implied most things would be closed, but he didn't seem to sure.
Dick Rambone
11-11-07, 18:25
Kdog or DB,
Is caprichos open? I used to go to that place until it got busted. I remember one time the police came over and everyone had to get out. But nothing happened, it was near closing time. I will be there from Dec 5 to Dec. 11.
Dick
I'll let you know tomorrow Dick. I was planning on hitting it if Platinos was no good, but I never made it there.
DB, thanks for your list of clubs and your rankings (man's best friend, etc). I took it with me last night and will again tonight.
Dodger Bulldog
11-11-07, 20:14
Kdog or DB,
Is caprichos open? I used to go to that place until it got busted. I remember one time the police came over and everyone had to get out. But nothing happened, it was near closing time. I will be there from Dec 5 to Dec. 11.
DickCapricho's was open when I was there in May. Has it been busted since then?
DB
Dodger Bulldog
11-11-07, 20:20
Kdog,
Well, the suspicious guys did not bother you and the cops didn't take anything, so I suspect
your fears may have gotten the best of you. Guatemala gets such a bad rap.
It is possible that the police noticed the bad guys and intervened to save you, right? Since they
didn't even ask for a bribe, it makes sense to me.
Sunday sucks big time.
Baron Rojo was open on Sunday night when I was there in May. It is horrible. Here is my report:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=607050&postcount=334
The Salsa Club in Zona 9 also used to be open on Sundays. It is reputed to be a clip joint like
Elite, so I never went there.
If you didn't get the phone numbers from any chicas last night, then your best bet may be to
check out the street walkers or call an escort service.
How is your Spanish? I'll PM you the phone number of a chica I know.
If all else fails try hitting on the girls who work at the McDonald's a block down from you. I heard
it worked for Fantasy!
DB
Thanks again for all the info you provide on this board Dodger.
I headed out around 10 pm and the taxi driver said everything was closed except for Baron Rojo, so he took me there. No cover. $25 for a small bottle of rum (great deal considering a very small glass of rum and coke was $4.50).
I immediately noticed two really hot babes dancing off stage. I thought I struck gold, but neither would make eye contact or talk with any of the customers. I later found out they were paid by the club just to dance. They even had a manager type person with them.
The waiters were great at Baron Rojo. Fast service and no hounding for girl drinks. The working girls were average in looks, but one spinner was kindof cute, really drunk, and very friendly. I decided to take her to the room, but she was so drunk that when she went hunting for a cigarette, she ended up in another corner of the club dancing with random people. I decided to just leave and check-out the street girls.
It was later than I thought, around 1AM, and there was a light rain. In result, 1 hour of driving around with a taxi driver ended up in spotting only 3-4 street girls. We must have hit every street girl spot in Guat City. Not by my choice, by the way. The driver kept insisting there would be girls at a new location and there never was.
Finally, at 2:30AM, he took me to a disco (sorry, don't remember the name) where there likely would be working women. The driver entered with me. I saw two hot girls from Elite there, but they were dancing with each other and didn't seem interested in working at the time. After about 30 minutes I was ready to leave when I noticed a girl looking at me and alone. I spoke with her and danced with her for about 15 minutes. There wasn't too much chemistry between us. Something was strange about her, but I was definitely ready and willing to take her back to my hotel (she was my last resort).
All of a sudden, the taxi driver grabs me by the arm and says we must leave immediately. When we get outside, he tells me other customers/employees warned him about the girl with me. She is known to drug and rob customers. I don't think he was BSing me. I really believe he saved me. There were other cases of him looking out for me that night. Finally, he took me back to the Holiday Inn. I gave him a nice payout for driving/hangingout/protecting me for 2.5 hours.
Dodger Bulldog
11-12-07, 18:13
I don't think he was BSing me. I really believe he saved me. There were other cases of him looking out for me that night.It sounds like the police, of all people, were on the lookout for you one night, and the taxi
driver made sure you were safe the next. Not only him, but also the other locals who made
the effort to inform him how to protect you.
I had exactly the same experience in Guatemala. The people were always wonderful to me.
Sometimes they acted a little too much like a mother hen, warning me against doing things
that turned out perfectly safe.
The reason is that they are a very proud people, and it honors them when a gringo comes to
visit their country. They don't want anything negative to happen to us.
Of course, their are bad apples in Guatemala, just as there is anywhere. However, the average
person is ashamed of the reputation of the country and wants to prove to us it is undeserved.
They will go out of their way to help us and treat us with respect.
If only we would treat our guests to the US so well!
DB
Traffic777
11-12-07, 20:23
La Linea prices dropped, or I was just lucky today. Picked an average Nica, asked if she would do oral/sin ropa/posiciones for Q40, she countered with Q30. That¨s $4 all-in.
Chica quality is the same - fugly, fugly, fugly, mediocre, average, fugly...
Apparently a lot more gringos visit La Linea nowadays. The girls told me they see a few gringos a day now, whereas last year, before I gave Dodger the directions and posted a report on another site, they would hardly see any gringos, other than evangelists.
The place feels safer than it used to be, they put a police station right next to it. Only one bum asked me for a quetzal, but not persistently. Feels cleaner too, they were sweeping, so your chances of slipping on a rubber and falling into a cesspool are slightly lower now.
Saw cops with a huge professional video camera. So, smile when you¨re there, look, Ma, I¨m on TV!
Traffic777
11-15-07, 01:01
“Mythical Beast Award”
Zeus – A club in Zona 10 reputed to have incredibly hot Colombianas, albeit quite expensive ones. I asked directions from many people and searched for it many times, but never could find it.
A local told me that the Zeus club is inside the Cascadias Mall in Zona 9. Close (half a block west) to the intersection of 1 Avenida and 10 Calle, Z9.
If I get around to visiting it, I'll report. So far I'm a bit burned out on the Guate club scene.
Traffic777
11-15-07, 01:04
Capricho's was open when I was there in May. Has it been busted since then?
DB
It's still open; pretty hot women, but no more Russians.
Dodger Bulldog
11-15-07, 05:18
A local told me that the Zeus club is inside the Cascadias Mall in Zona 9. Close (half a block west) to the intersection of 1 Avenida and 10 Calle, Z9.
If I get around to visiting it, I'll report. So far I'm a bit burned out on the Guate club scene.Well, those cross streets sound pretty close to the ones told to me. However, I was told
to look in Zona 10, so maybe going to Zona 9 will solve the problem.
Please at least check to see if this address is correct.
Thanks!
DB
Traffic777
11-15-07, 20:58
Ok, Dodger, I'll investigate tonight out of respect for the work you've done here. Anybody else in town that wants to tag along? I'll be in the capital at least a few more days before moving on to the lake Atitlan.
To add to the confusion, mystique, and suspense, this page claims that the location is 4 Ave and Calle 10, Z9: http://www.deguate.com/foros/messages/126/12973.html
Evberybody seems to agree though that it's full of superhot chicas, some of the best in Guate.
Ok, Dodger, I'll investigate tonight out of respect for the work you've done here. Anybody else in town that wants to tag along? I'll be in the capital at least a few more days before moving on to the lake Atitlan.
To add to the confusion, mystique, and suspense, this page claims that the location is 4 Ave and Calle 10, Z9: http://www.deguate.com/foros/messages/126/12973.html
Evberybody seems to agree though that it's full of superhot chicas, some of the best in Guate.Hi everyone,
I am new to this forum, also a local here in Guate, the address you are looking for is not in 4 avenida any more, they moved to a new location, still in zona 9, about 5 blocks away. They do have the best looking gals of all Guates night clubs, I would say 95% Colombian beauty. It is expensive compared to the other places you guys have mentioned here before.
Zeus moved to a new address, I knew the old place, which was a house, now they have parking lot and food places outside the main place were the girls are. They have some fine women there. It is the most pricey place of the ones I know in Guate. If I can, I will go tonight since its my guys night out day. Maybe I will see you there.
Ok Traffic, maybe I will see you there tonight, the street number for Zeus is on 10 calle of zona 9. I do not have the exact number of the parking lot were Zeus is, but if you take 10 calle, it is going away from Ave. Reforma and it ends at a "must" turn left or right avenida. Zeus is 2 blocks before this "Must Turn" on Avenida La Castellana on your left hand side, they have a gate to get into the parking lot and Zeus in on the sencond level floor.
Traffic777
11-16-07, 21:30
That's right, Zeus is now at Las Cascadas Plaza, on the 2nd floor. Close (half a block west) to the intersection of 1 Avenida and 10 Calle, Z9.
I went there during the daytime to verify the address, and 3 Colombianas were playing cards outside. I had the advantage of seeing them in bright light - two were definite 8's, easily transformed into 10's in dim club lighting.
They told me that a beer costs $7US, LD is either $14 or $40 (can't remember), and short time on premises is $300. LT/take-out is $800+. No, I'm not confusing dollars for quetzales.
That pricelist was enough for me to say gracias, turn around, and not even consider coming back. They were hot by Guatemalan standards.
Guys, do yourself a favor and try to hit on non-pro's instead! I'm having more luck with those than the club girls. It was hard for me to find anything decent for good price when we hit the clubs with Kdog, yet, the more educated English-speaking non-pro's are so much better; they love foreigners!
In the last 2 days I got 4 numbers from 19-22 y.o. nice non-pros and am off to a date with a student chica right now. Last time I had a decent date in the States was a couple of years ago, so it's not that I've a good game.
To all who are interested, Caprichos is still open. I was there on the 16th and had a blast! Lots of hot women (especially this hot little number from Juarez, MEX). Was invited to the back and came dangerously close to paying for "it", but changed my mind since I was just starting a 4 day trip and needed to save $$. However, I plan to return as soon as possible. Too bad the place closes at 1am.
Luis Fernando
11-29-07, 05:38
Hi everyone,
I'm new to this forum. I like to find one of the best hookers I have ever had; She goes by the name of Maria Fernanda, but I believe her true name is Cristal and she alleged to be from Honduras, she is about 23 to 25 years old. I’d lost contact with her and would like to know we she may be now.
Thanks L.F.
Pkt Sniffer69
12-05-07, 07:49
I'm in country on business for the first time and looking for map of some locations (clubs, MP, etc) that are relatively near the Marriott. I will be hear till Saturday. Can any one help?
Charles Man
12-11-07, 13:59
Hi everyone,
In a few weeks I will be en GC. I've been reeading the forum and got a lot of useful information. But I would like to know some updated prices in places like Le'Club, Caprichos, Men's, Venus, Platinum.
Thankx
Dude I'm her in guate and some clubs are crap went to "mens" decent 320 quetzals for half hr got the full works. Girls was about a 7. There was some 9's but would give what I wanted. Platinum is 600 q for 45 min mostly 9's a couple of 10's.
In a few weeks I will be en GC. I've been reeading the forum and got a lot of useful information. But I would like to know some updated prices in places like Le'Club, Caprichos, Men's, Venus, Platinum.
Thankx[/QUOTE]
ReallyaNiceGuy
01-04-08, 18:54
. . . for their help with the great post and all the information they provide and for the PM's I got from you guys. Thanks!
I'm about ready to finalize my plans so when I get firm dates I'll post them. I'll be there for a month starting around the first of February.
Thanks again.
Mike
Dodger Bulldog
01-11-08, 04:00
The latest advisory from the State Department:
Embassy of the United States of America
Guatemala City, Guatemala
January 10, 2008
Dear American Citizen:
The following Warden Message concerns the January 14 inauguration in Guatemala. Please contact the American Citizen Services section via e-mail (amcitsguatemala@state.gov), fax (2326-4655), or telephone (2326-4405) if you have any questions. Thank you very much for your support and assistance.
Estimados Ciudadanos Americanos:
El siguiente es un mensaje, concerniente a la toma de posesión presidencial, el 14 de enero, en Guatemala. Por favor comuníquese con la Sección de Servicios a Ciudadanos Americanos vía correo electrónico a (amcitsguatemala@state.gov) fax (2326-4655) ó número telefónico (2326-4405) si tiene alguna pregunta o si necesita mayor información en español. Muchas gracias por su colaboración y ayuda.
WARDEN MESSAGE
The Guatemalan presidential inauguration will take place on Monday, January 14, 2008. Congressional deputies, and mayors and other elected officials across the country will also be assuming office on that day. U.S. citizens are advised that security measures planned by Guatemalan authorities may result in disruption of normal traffic flow in the capital. Beginning on January 11, three days before the event, the Guatemalan police will deploy 3000 additional officers throughout Guatemala City. Additionally, several streets within the capital may be closed.
The U.S. Embassy is not aware of any demonstrations planned for the days leading up to the inauguration, during the event, or afterwards. Nevertheless, U.S. citizens are advised that impromptu demonstrations are possible, especially in towns and rural areas where mayoral election results were disputed. While most demonstrations in Guatemala have been peaceful, and have not been directed at tourists or foreigners, Americans are reminded that even peaceful demonstrations can turn violent with little or no warning. U.S. citizens should avoid areas where demonstrations are taking place. The use of roadblocks and/or blocking of public facilities, including the international airports, has occurred in the past, and demonstrators may prevent tourists caught behind the blockades from leaving.
U.S. citizens visiting or residing in Guatemala should monitor local media reports and consult hotel personnel and tour guides to see if there is protest activity that justifies suspension of travel. U.S. citizens may also consult with the Consular section of the U.S. Embassy for updated security information.
Americans traveling abroad should regularly monitor the Department's web site at http://travel.state.gov where the current Worldwide Caution Public Announcement, Travel Warnings and Public Announcements can be found. Information on security can also be obtained by calling 1-888-407-4747 toll free in the United States, or, for callers outside the United States and Canada, a regular toll line at 1-202-501-4444. The U.S. Embassy in Guatemala City can be reached at (502) 2326-4405.
I'm going to GC soon and I found this website linked from prensa libre:
http://www.chapinaz.com
Does anybody have experience with the place?
Full Throttle,
By chance do you have more information about the Le Palace?
I went there June 07, but I think now I close Iam looking for a nica girl called Yajaira around 21 - 23
Cheers!
Anyone ever had a problem bringing a girl in?
I stayed at the Biltmore which is connected to the Camera Real it is much cheeper and you can use all the Camino Real facilities.
This place was girl friendly. I met a great girl and she came over to my room a couple nights after her work like 2 or 3 am and just went up to my room and there was no problem.
I did have problems with the phone and Internet and it ended up costing me mucho dinero to use the hotel phone to the states.
Thanks Skyman.
Already have the WCR room booked. Figure I would splurge before trekking off to the jungle the balance of the week. Planning on hitting some of the clubs nearby. Will try to add some recent info upon my return.
Newbie Help -- visiting Guatemala City on Feb 9th for the first time. Experienced in Lima and Costa Rica.
Hotel recommendations in Guatemala City?
Suites Reforma Zona Viva suitesreformahttp://www.suitesreforma.com.gt/
Hotel San Carlos Zona 10 http://www.hsancarlos.com/?
Other?
Hotel recommendations in Antigua Guatemala:?
Posada del Hermano Pedro http://www.xelapages.com/hermanopedro/
Other?
i had an excellent experience today in guatemala city, on a sunday no less, which is somewhat challenging since most agencies and casas de cita are only open monday through saturday. i had a couple hours to enjoy in the early afternoon, and my searche proved worthwhile.
i looked in the classifieds for the sunday prensa libre and found this one, only i am expanding it to get rid of abbreviations:
masaje relajante, avenida elena 10-48 zone 3, de 9 am - 9 pm, todos los dias (every day)
first off, some details on the location. zone 3 is just west of downtown, about a 10 minute walk or so, depending on your location. the 10-48 means that it's near 10a calle, number 48 on the block. calles (or streets) run east-west, while avenidas (avenues) run north-south. once you arrive, it is in the middle of a busy, mixed commercial-residential street, and the address is shown in pretty big numbers. the location is non-descript with a typical big metal frame with a door inset into the frame. the name "elisabeth" is also printed on the larger door frame up above. it feels a bit strange to have residents of all ages milling about, but the papasan (or bouncer or whatever) lets you in discreetly and then everything is fine.
so i arrived and the papasan told me the details. i could peek at the 4 chicas waiting in chairs in the front waiting area, and the selection looked decent. i wanted 1.5 hours which the guys said would cost me q330. i paid my dues and then went over to the girls. by the way, just so you know, the papasan (there were two actually) didn't seem to be the types to speak much english. at least my mongering negotiating skills have gotten pretty good after living here for several months.
when i go to casas de cita i always feel a bit awkward trying to decide who to be with. of the four chicas, 2 were decent looking, 1 was good and 1 was quite hot. i personally find women with dark features extremely sexy, which is what most of the girls there are, so if you're looking for blondes with plastic tits i suggest you shop elsewhere. so anyway, the good looking one, named angela, was the one i picked because she seemed to have the mix of personality, attitude and body. she has a lovely face and brown hair and skin, and her body type is medium.
angela took me back to her room, where she fully satisfied me. incidentally, the conditions of the room were quite good and clean, though the bathroom is kinda nasty and there is nowhere to wash up afterwards.
so, back to angela. i love women who are very affectionate, seductive and touchy, which she was. she was proactive and seemed to enjoy sex. it was a true gfe, and she really kept on giving until the last minute. the 1.5 hours was good because it gave us time to relax, really check each other out and do msog, which she was into. i would gladly visit her again.
then i was back out into the 75 degree guatemalan sunshine with a big smile on my face, thanks to angela.
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Southbound69
01-25-08, 07:34
Freshwind,
I stayed at the Hotel San Carlos exactly two years ago. The hotel was pretty nice and I don't remember what the rate was at the time but I felt it was a good deal. They had free transport from the airport. Breakfast was descent. Reception was very friendly. I called hotescortsgt.com and he brought the girl over that I requested although he was about an hour late. I told the front desk that "a friend" was coming to visit me. No problem, no charge (I don't know what the official policy is for guests). They called my room when she arrived to let me know and I told them to send her up. The girl from hotescortsgt was GREAT by the way.
Almost a GFE, nice shower together, BBBJ, multiple positions, 2 pops. She had a great time too. I think it was $55 for the first hour at the time. She is no longer on the website.
By the way, for $10 extra (I think his name is Charley) he delivered a girl to Antigua for me, 2 hour minimum. He did it for me, twice.
Have fun.
Southbound69
I went to this place today around 6 PM. There were about 15 chicas present. The standard is not as high as in the other clubs usually discussed here, around 50% of the girls where fucking ugly, but there were also some 7s and 8s.
The prices on the website are correct, it´s 150Q for 30 min and 300Q for one hours. I paid a heavy gringo tax on the beer (40 per bottle), it´s actually muss less as I found out when I left the place and saw the advertising in the entrance (too bad I didn´t see it when I walked in). It seems that lady drinks have the same price here.
In spite of the rip-off with the beer (won´t happen again), I liked the place. Sat down with a 24yo spinner that looked like 18. She was really sweet, never asked for a drink until I bought her one. Lots of DFK already in the bar until we eventually went on to the back room. When I saw the backroom and especially the bathroom I realized why this place is so cheap. They don´t even have tap water but take take it from 2 large water barrels in the bathroom. Anyway, the main event was excellent. 30 min. hard sex (I like it wild and since my best part is definitely way over Guatemalan standards I sometimes have problems with petite chicks) an absolute GFE, she really seemed to enjoy it as well and even let me finish over her tits and face. All this including half an hour DFK in the bar for 150Q. If it wasn´t for the bathroom, I would probably have stayed longer and tried another chick, but even given that, I want to try again next week.
By the way, they also have a funny game on their website www.chapinaz.com
Delta5000
ReallyaNiceGuy
02-09-08, 17:06
I have been busy since my arrival.
I signed up with LatinAmericanCupid a couple of weeks ago and started contacting any girl/woman that was looking for someone my age and spoke a little English. I got a bunch of replies showing interest and some we started exchanging emails. When it was all said and done, although there are still a couple of maybes,
My first day/night was spent with one of these girls. I meet Lilies for breakfast the morning I arrived. She is 30, great English, collage degree in business, divorced, a son that passed away, little spinner body, friendly, very cute and sexy. She wore skin tight pants and top with no bra with her nipples sticking out at me the whole time we ate.
Well she has a story, don't they all? Her son died in an accident and then ran into trouble with the government about his body, had to sell her house and pay them a lot of money and now she was almost out of money, the government was after her, now she was living in hiding in an apartment, right around the corner from me, and was leaving for the USA. She has a friend living in Houston, TX so she was going there to look for work. Whatever! But she never even hinted for me to give her money but I was waiting. It never came.
After breakfast we went to the mall and she helped me get a cell phone, exchange US dollars and check into Las Torres. After that she said she had to go and finish packing, I asked if she needed help and she said sure and the company would be nice too so off we went to her apartment.
I was just being helpful but she started flirting so I flirting back and soon we were in bed together in the throws of passion. Then we showered together and went to lunch. When we returned we finished packing and then back to bed, then dinner and we spent the night together. The morning was another couple of rounds, shower, take her bags down stairs, put her in the cab and send her off to the airport.
Yes I did tell her I would try and make it to Houston to see her but most likely I wouldn't. But we'll see how she is doing there when I get home next month.
Mike
ReallyaNiceGuy
02-10-08, 19:29
Rested most of the day and walked around some getting my barring. After taking a late nap I went to the bar across the street from Las Torres, it's called Cheers now, at around 10 PM. The place was packed watching Soccer.
I wasn't sat down 5 minutes and a girl came over and sat next to me. She spoke a little English and we had fun trying to talk to each other. Her name was Sheily, she was 28, nice looking, a few extra Latin pounds but still nice body, she was there with her 18 year old sister, WOW! what a knock out she was. She lives in Livingston and was visiting Guatemala city for a while.
Sheily had have a few drinks and was feeling good and her sister was trying to keep her in line and not wanting her to drink anymore. I don't drink and was being a support and not buying any more drinks for her, the sister liked that and took a liking to me and was comfortable with me spending time talking to Sheily.
Her husband died 4 months ago so maybe that was what had her craving attention. Well I gave it to her, treated her, and her sister, with respect and before long she was hanging all over me, her sister gave me the OK so I hung on her back. She was loving the attention and soon it was full on the lips deep wet kissing. After about 2 hours she asked if I wanted to go to my place and I told her we should check with her sister. I told the sister I would take good care of Sheily, make sure she got home safe and Sheily was pleading for permission. We got the go ahead and off we went to my room for a night of passion and good sex. It was all I could do to keep up with her because she wanted it again and again. We woke up, a couple more rounds, shower, breakfast and sent her home. She gave me her number so, if she still likes me when she's sober, I'll hope to see her again.
Mike
ReallyaNiceGuy
02-11-08, 04:52
I slept in, had breakfast and then took off for a walk to this place. Got there about noon and there were about 12 girls and 4 guys in the place. As I walked around a girl latched onto me, didn't really look at her just trying to get the lay of the land, I sat down on a long bench along the wall and she sat next to me and started hugging and kissing me. Her name was Mary, said she was 25, I guess closer to 35, OK looking with a decent body. When I could get a word in I discovered that nobody in the place spoke English and when she found out that I didn't speak Spanish she told the whole place and we all laughed at the situation but we got by.
As Mary and I were going at it I spotted a really cute thin girl, she was serving drinks. I caught her eye and when she finished she came over and sat on the other side of me. Mary introduced us, sorry but I forgot her name, she was sweet and I felt a strong attraction to her. The three of us sat there doing our best to talk and having fun. I bought both of them a drink and Mary went to get them so that gave me alone time with the cute one. Soon we were embraced and DFKing until Mary returned. So there I sat getting kissed by both of them.
I saw there was a stage and asked Mary if she danced, she said she would and went to the back room to get ready. When she left the cute one and I picked up where we left off. Mary came out, went up on the stage and started dancing, she was pretty good, the cute one and I cooled it down but I was feeling her up good. When Mary finished her routine and was necked I went up to the stage with 5Q in my hand, ran my hands up and down her body, which looked nice by the way, and with no place to stick the tip I put it under her neckless and the place went nuts with what I was doing.
Mary went to the back to get dressed and I returned to the cute one and told her I wanted to take her to the room. Things got kind of strange here but she told me she couldn't because Mary was with me first and I should go with her first. I told her I only had time for one and I wanted it to be her but she remained firm. I asked her if she would be there tomorrow and she told me they were closed on Sunday. I asked if I could see her alone at my place on Sunday and she said she would. That was great news and I agreed to go with Mary today. My cell wasn't working so I all I could do was give her the name, address and directions to my hotel, she said she knew where it was and would be there.
Oh yea, Mary returned, we agreed on 150 for 30 minutes and went to the back. The room was exactly as Delta5000 described. Mary was a lot of fun, she enjoys her work, did everything I asked, took a good pounding, I came and I left.
On the way out I stopped and got some more DFKing from the cute one, as we were hugging I whispered in her ear, manana?, she whispered back, si, we all said goodbye and I left.
Well it's Sunday night as I'm writing this and you guessed it, she never showed up. I will go back there to see her.
Mike
ReallyaNiceGuy
02-11-08, 16:57
Later Saturday another monger from ISG, Freshwind, arrived and is staying at the same hotel, we hung out, got him a cell phone, had dinner and then we hit the streets.
First stop La Club. Very cool upscale place.
We were ushered to a table, actually they asked the local guys already sitting there to move so we could sit there, the menu was explained to us and we ordered a drink. Soon we were joined by a couple of lovely girls, chatted with them for a while, bought them a drink, lots of hankie pankie, my girl was gesturing with her finger about the BJ I would get so I traced my finger along her cheek and down to her throat, she understood I meant DT and she said she could do that, cool.
Things were going good until a waiter came over and moved our drinks from the table because he said there was going to be a girl dancing on the table. Then there was this whole show thing with about 8 girls dancing this routine on stage with other girls dancing on the tables around the club. They were all dressed alike and it seemed to go on forever. Somebody came over and said something to my girl, she told me she would be right back but I never saw her again. The mood was gone and Freshwind and I decided to leave and check out another place.
Next stop Cats. Now this is my kind of place. Or so I thought.
This place was packed with girls, some dressed in the same outfits and some dressed in varying street/**** outfits. Near as I could understand the girls dressed the same "worked" there and the others were freelance. It felt like the freelance girls were more aggressive and wanting drink after drink.
Two freelance girls joined us, nice enough, we bought them a drink and soon we were asked to move to the back room with couches. At first it felt like this would give us some privacy but soon there was a bunch of people in the room. Then the pressure came to buy another drink, we did and then they wanted another. I kept asking about going to the room and she would say after one more drink. Well two was my limit so I told her no and asked her to leave, she asked for another drink, then she asked for cash, and she asked again several more times while I was just hanging around alone. She really was a pest. Nothing else moved us, it was late, Freshwind was feeling under the weather and tired so we called it a night.
Mike
Dodger Bulldog
02-12-08, 06:39
Hey Really Nice Guy,
Thanks for confirming for everyone else what I have reported many times over: Le Club and Cats are
the absolute worst places I have ever seen for trying to bleed you dry over drinks!
The best strategy is to buy at most one drink for yourself, pick out a chica within 20 minutes, and
head upstairs immediately. Don't even get started on buying the first chica drink.
I was actually banned from going back to Le Club because one night I bought only three drinks for
myself, two chica drinks, and a session of servicio. Total damages: about US$120.
But I didn't buy ENOUGH drinks that night, so they actually banned me from coming back!
If you do return to Le Club, be sure to take my advice and ask for Salvador to be your waiter. He is
a cool old dude and much more reasonable about letting you enjoy yourself without requiring you to
buy another drink every 20 minutes.
It is also true at Le Club that the hottest chicas spend an inordinate amount of time hiding in back. So
don't wait for the chicas to come to you. Simply point Salvador towards the one who caught your eye
and let him go fetch her.
Best strategy for Cats: Just forgeddaboutit!
DB
Thought I might chime in a little on current GC reports though ReallyaNiceGuy is doing a great job. First RNG is excellent wingman.- a little more adventuresome walking around at night than I might be alone but it has worked out fine. First stop Caprichos which had a few 9s-10 and later, when I am not under the weather it would be a good spot to make a quick choice. The most uncomfortable moment for me was in the cab after leaving our first stop at Caprichos. This taxi driver was 3 shades to the wind he had a wild look in his eyes, couldn't carry on a coherent conversation and no telling where he was heading. We jumped out of the cab midstream near Chicas Con Pene corner and I was ready to head to more familiar surroundings. Fortunately RNG kept his cool and navigated us deftly to Platinum. The Guatemaltecas were literally sleeping but the one the woke up to entertain me was affectionate and I enjoyed the very reasonably priced visit.
Armed with a myriad of warnings about overpricing we headed back to Z10 and Elite. Now Elite reminds me more of the high priced places in Lima (e. G. Club 69, Eclipse) than the ripoff joints in SJO CR (Elites and Atlantas, Tango Indias). Prices were costly $8 guy drinks $17 chica drinks but clearly explained and honestly administered with no attempt to force a tab on us. Chicas were hot with about 7 Nicas, 7 Salvadorians, 1 Venezuelan, 7 Guatemaltecas and 2 Colubianas. There was one tiny flaca Guatemalteca with a slight China flavor who was a totally off-scale dancing energy bunny. Unfortunately a couple of locals had her and a similar Guatemalteca flaca occupied the entire night.- I imagine that those guys had a handsome tab.
In looking at Elite business plan essentially about 12 waiters and 25 chicas supported by a 8 hombres, including RNG and me, I was reminded of a conversation with some expats local at Charlies as these guys were busting a gut describing the primary Guatemala business plan as "if I am not making enough money then I must charge more. " Apparently they haven't heard about Walmart's success. While ELites is certainly more upscale than Walmart, (owwww I just had visions of Walmart gringas), it is too bad that they don't have some more moderate priced options at places like Elite.- say 3 dances in a private booth for 150Q. They might pack them in, keep the chicas busy and they would likely drum up more VIP business. In any case I would clearly return to Elite for a couple of carefully selected chica drinks.
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Hello everyone,
I'm new at this forum. I'm Guatemalan and let me tell you, here you have a lot of very helpful information on places that I have not gone still. So I said what the hell, lets help the "gringo" fellow monglers (as you call it) with a little report.
Earlier today I went to Chapinaz because of the add on the internet (as a matter of fact I found this forum by googling that place) and looked very cheap and promissing. As I got there (you should know that this place is in a dangerous part of zona 9 where theres a lot of crime) they frisked me as they usually do here in Guatemala in all the streep joints and bars and so I got in. PUTA MADRE! Was my first thought. And not because the girls where hotties but on the contrary, they where all little whales in a very dirty place. Place was crowded and there was no girl available so a guy working there told me to sit down have a drink and wait. This really got me down and just left. From the scales you guys use I would say, through my eyes, 3-5 (there where only 2 eights but they were with some one else. So next stop I went to El Paisano were my mood changed. After the rutine frisk I got in and I thought again, PUTA MADRE! But this time was in a positve way. The girls where in a sacale of 6-9 (one girl was a 10). The drinks where cheap in Guatemlan standrds so U freigners should know the prices: Q20 for a beer (guys), Q40 for a small beer (girls) and Q40 for a liter of Beer (CHEAP, CHEAP, CHEAP! ). The girls where nice and educated and the price for the service: Q60 for each 15minutes (CHEAP). The place was quite nice clean and way more better in every aspect compared to Chapinaz.
They do not keep frcing you to buy drinks, you only buy one liter of beer and you are done for the evening. The girls are great.
So I recomend EL Paisano to all the foreigners and locals here in Guatemala City and really discourage on going to Chapinaz, where the girls are way, WAY bellow the scale compared to El Paso where everything is worth the money.
Saludos
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Dodger Bulldog
02-17-08, 08:46
So next stop I went to El Paisano were my mood changed. After the routine frisk I got in and I thought again, PUTA MADRE! But this time was in a positive way. The girls where in a scale of 6-9 (one girl was a 10). The drinks where cheap in Guatemlan standards so U foreigners should know the prices: Q20 for a beer (guys), Q40 for a small beer (girls) and Q40 for a liter of Beer (CHEAP, CHEAP, CHEAP! ). The girls where nice and educated and the price for the service: Q60 for each 15minutes (CHEAP). The place was quite nice clean and way more better in every aspect compared to Chapinaz.
They do not keep forcing you to buy drinks, you only buy one liter of beer and you are done for the evening. The girls are great.
So I recomend EL Paisano to all the foreigners and locals here in Guatemala CityGreat first report, Lord GT. Welcome to the forum!
Can you tell us the location of El Paisano? It definitely sounds like it is worth checking out.
Muchos gracias.
DB
El Paisano 1 (there are 2 near to each other so this one is the one on a corner): 4ª. Avenida 10-02 de la zona 12 de la ciudad capital.
Saludos,
Lord
had the chance to be in g city last week and here's what i managed to pull off. since club paradise was the closest to the hotel area in zona 9, i gave the place my first try. it's an easy walk from the westin, intercon. etc. from westin, take a right out of the main lobby and make your first left. follow that street to ave. reforma. take a right on reforma a few blocks to 12th. cross reforma (use crosswalks and be careful) and continue to a large traffic circle. carefully cross circle and continue straight to first alley on right. the club has a large neon sign. a doorman waits behind a metal security gate and will frisk you upon entering. at that point some guy in a bad suit approaches you and tends to your needs. he will point around and you can check out the girls/make a selection. saturday night most of the girls were busy. katiana came up and started a conversation. she seemed nice enough, so i paid the man for an hour and up to the room we went. for the discerning ***** connoisseur, katiana might stand some criticism. a little on the heavy side. not fat, not a model figure but pleasant. at that point i was just looking for some oral and conversation, so the selection process was a quick. this girl was nice and fun in bed but, for some reason i could'nt manage to finish. this poor girl was trying every possible mode of stimulation to the point of exhaustion. knowing the moment would never come, i told her to stop. she finished up the hour with a nice massage. $100 all in total including a few drinks and a small tip. i slept really good that night. after some typical tourist activities during the week, i made it back to guat on friday. i made an attempt at finding some of the other clubs in zona 9 with no success. even armed with a print-out of addresses from the forum, i struck out. i did however find some un-marked clubs and a few groups of trannies down 12 by 3rd. growing weary and frustrated from walking, i gave up and headed back to paradise. again the bad suit concierge summoned a group for introduction. a girl named jazmine made the best impression, so off to the room for an hour. i can't get into detail for it would be too much writing, but this girl was awesome. clearly the best pro experience that i have ever had. i could'nt stop laughing to myself on the walk back to the hotel. ever had that "what the hell just happend" feeling? another $100 spent.
here are some observations/advice. the safety issue is no big deal. keep your eyes open and act with caution. the traffic patterns are confusing and cars come from all directions at high speeds. please use caution as a pedestrian. i walked around zona 9 at night with no problems. keep moving and don't draw attention to yourself. when you exchange money get enough small bills becaulse getting change can be a problem. never try to carry any dope at the airport. the police have narco k9's and they go through everything! even on domestic flights. nobody outside the gringo hotels speaks english, so brush up on your spanish. all in all guatemala isn't a great monger destination imho. the prices seem set so in terms of cost effectivness, it's not the best deal. note: both girls gave me their phone #'s and asked me to call them outside the club. i didn't pursue so i can't confirm any price. you have to travel at least some distance to the clubs/casas so there is no large buffet style situation like costa rica. a language barrier exists unless you speak some spanish. travelling the country was a great experience. there are surely some non-pro opportunties. the girls up in flores/peten are great looking and super friendly. chances are more than good for a foreigner to hook up with one. remember these are just the musings of a first timer, so please have mercy.
chiao amigos.
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I was wondering about taking a trip to GC. But I have mixed reviews. Can anyone give me the straight face answer. Should I stay or should I go there? I want to visit but now I have second thoughts. Any info would be greatly appreciated. I have been to Brasil, Dominican Republic, and now we are making plans to go to other places like Costa Rica, etc. But I was thinking about venturing to places like Guatemala because the planes prices are really Cheap.
I want to know is it a place to get more for your buck? Because I will probably be going by myself, because none of my traveling buddies are interested in going. I speak enough Spanish to get by, and by the time I go there My Spanish will be much better. So anything anyone can tell me I will take in, thank you very much.
Traffic777
02-24-08, 22:15
I was wondering about taking a trip to GC. But I have mixed reviews. Can anyone give me the straight face answer. Should I stay or should I go there? I want to visit but now I have second thoughts. Any info would be greatly appreciated. I have been to Brasil, Dominican Republic, and now we are making plans to go to other places like Costa Rica, etc. But I was thinking about venturing to places like Guatemala because the planes prices are really Cheap.
I want to know is it a place to get more for your buck? Because I will probably be going by myself, because none of my traveling buddies are interested in going. I speak enough Spanish to get by, and by the time I go there My Spanish will be much better. So anything anyone can tell me I will take in, thank you very much.
If it's just for chicas, then definitely no. It's a lousy town with lousy girls and very little else to do. You can get the rare hot ones, if you are willing to spend the $ (in which case you might as well travel somewhere nice)
I was wondering about taking a trip to GC.
GC is one of the most expensive cities in Latin America for mongering, and the girls there are probably the least attractive. Definitely not a place to visit for mongering. The country, however, is another story. You could easily spend two weeks there visiting the various Mayan ruins.
Wow, thank you very much. I will definitely be crossing that place off my list of countries to visit. That is all I needed to know. I was wondering about it, but now even after the two responses I won't be there. I guess it will be Ecuador or Colombia in the future for me, as well as Costa Rica. Thank you again I really appreciate it.
Dodger Bulldog
02-25-08, 02:30
GC is one of the most expensive cities in Latin America for mongering, and the girls there are probably the least attractive. Definitely not a place to visit for mongering. Of course there are better places to monger than Guatemala City.
As much as it pains me to disagree with my good friend, Lorenzo, his experience consists of three days in the country while I lived actually lived there in 2005 and 2006.
But don't just listen to me, you can check out Lorenzo's own report. He rated Guatemala as the third best mongering destination in all of Cental America. The 8 that he assigned to it was just slightly behind the 9 he gave to Costa Rica and the 8. 5 he gave to El Salvador.
I find it unpleasant when a guy hangs himself with his own words, but here is Lorenzo's previous report (emphasis added):
GUATEMALA: Guatemala City has the highest concentration of quality chicas in all of CA, approaching but not equaling the termas in Rio. They are also very skilled sexually and I had them do everything I asked. OVERALL RATING: 8There is such an incredible disconnect between those two reports that I thought I better provide the exact link so that everyone can see for himself that I am NOT making this up: http://www.internationalsexguide. Info/forum/showpost.php? P=454989&postcount=214
Now, some information for those who are not exhibiting signs of split personalities:
The vast majority (over 2/3) of the chicas working in the clubs come to Guatemala from Nicaragua, El Salvador, and Honduras, with a handful from Panama.
I was at a club one night when a warning went out that immigration was on its way. All but one chica quickly snuck out the back and hid at the business next door. The poor Guatemalteca had to do all the dancing for the next 40 minutes!
So if one does not find the girls here attractive, they just don't like Central American chicas in general.
It is true that the prices are set by the clubs and are non-negotiable. They range from 300 Q ($39) to 600 Q ($78). While this is ostensibly for a half hour session, I never had trouble getting an hour or more for that price. I simply would tip the mamacita who cleans the room 10 Q going in, and ask her for a little extra time. Once I began doing that I never again had a knock on the door to tell me time was up.
They salido for take-out is prohibitive in most clubs, but I was able to score a few TLNs from Venus for 700 Q, once I got to know the management.
If one stays around long enough to assimilate somewhat, and learn to operate within the culture, he can learn to reap the benefits. Or if one reads and follows the reports on these boards from those of us who have already been to the country he can also experience the same level of success.
But if one goes in assuming that he already knows all there is to know and that it will be just like any other country he has visited, then he may walk away sorely disappointed.
I had to smile last week when I read Uticaclub's report about Paradiso (just four posts down).
this girl was awesome. Clearly the best pro experience that I have ever had. I could'nt stop laughing to myself on the walk back to the hotel. Ever had that "what the hell just happend" feeling? I had the exact same feeling at the exact same place about two years ago, albiet with a different chica. The absolute BEST pro experience I have ever had was there in Guatemala, just like Uticaclub had!
So don't bothering listening to the naysayers whose knowledge of the scene in this city is very limited by their own admission.
Guatemala is what it is, and that is plenty good enough for most of us.
You should have a great time there!
DB
As much as it pains me to disagree with my good friend, Lorenzo, his experience consists of three days in the
country while I lived actually lived there in 2005 and 2006.
(Sigh)...here we go again. After a considerable hiatus, DB is once again distorting my comments. How long did it take you to troll for that post from two years ago? You must really have a lot of time on your hands.
First of all, I was in Guatemala eight days, not three. And since you went to the trouble of quoting my nearly two year old post, you might have quoted the whole thing. If you had done that, you would have seen that there isn't such a contradiction (although you did provide a link, so readers can see for themselves). My reference to the high quality chicas referred to the expensive clubs, and I specifically noted that the quality was much poorer in the less expensive clubs.
Since I visited GC in March 2006, I subsequently visited all the remaining countries in Central America and 10 countries in South America (all but Guyana, Suriname, and French Guiana, all of which I plan to visit this year). I have now visited every country in Latin America except the Dominican Republic, and I can say unequivocally that GC is not only among the most expensive, it is THE most expensive place to monger in all of Latin America, especially when you take over all quality into consideration. Not even in Rio or Buenos Aires will you pay as much.
In retrospect, the high rating I gave to Guatemala was probably ill-conceived. Sometimes you need the passage of time, and experience in a few more countries, to gain a more balanced perspective. However, at the time I was comparing it to places like Belize, Honduras, and Nicaragua.
If somebody wants to monger in GC, I couldn't care less. The purpose of this forum is to share helpful information. Let the reader decide for himself. My advice to the original questioner would be, visit Guatemala to see the ruins, then go to El Salvador to monger. And enjoy yourself.
Finally, I'll leave DB a quote from Emerson to ponder: "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds."
L
(Sigh)...here we go again. After a considerable hiatus, DB is once again distorting my comments. How long did it take you to troll for that post from two years ago? You must really have a lot of time on your hands.
First of all, I was in Guatemala eight days, not three. And since you went to the trouble of quoting my nearly two year old post, you might have quoted the whole thing. If you had done that, you would have seen that there isn't such a contradiction (although you did provide a link, so readers can see for themselves). My reference to the high quality chicas referred to the expensive clubs, and I specifically noted that the quality was much poorer in the less expensive clubs.
Since I visited GC in March 2006, I subsequently visited all the remaining countries in Central America and 10 countries in South America (all but Guyana, Suriname, and French Guiana, all of which I plan to visit this year). I have now visited every country in Latin America except the Dominican Republic, and I can say unequivocally that GC is not only among the most expensive, it is THE most expensive place to monger in all of Latin America, especially when you take over all quality into consideration. Not even in Rio or Buenos Aires will you pay as much.
In retrospect, the high rating I gave to Guatemala was probably ill-conceived. Sometimes you need the passage of time, and experience in a few more countries, to gain a more balanced perspective. However, at the time I was comparing it to places like Belize, Honduras, and Nicaragua.
If somebody wants to monger in GC, I couldn't care less. The purpose of this forum is to share helpful information. Let the reader decide for himself. My advice to the original questioner would be, visit Guatemala to see the ruins, then go to El Salvador to monger. And enjoy yourself.
Finally, I'll leave DB a quote from Emerson to ponder: "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds."
LI hear that El Salvador is very dangerous. I want to find out more about Central American countries because they are close to home. I wouldn't mind passing through GC, but I do wanna have some monger fun while I visit. I wanna get all that I can and if GC is more expensive than Brasil, which I just got back from in Jan, I'm not interested. So I guess I will check the others out and then maybe if I'm passing through GC maybe visit and see what it is all about. I know I won't make it my primary destination., because I got a feeling about what Lorenzo was saying and I don't want to get out there and feel like why did I come here. Thanks guys for the info again.
Dodger Bulldog
02-25-08, 04:32
First of all, I was in Guatemala eight days, not three
I am in Guatemala City for 3 days on my 30 day sex tour of Central America... This driver recommended Night Club Platinum. He said Venus was too dangerous. I suspected he would be getting a kickback, but I didn't see any money change hands. Platinum was an entirely different kind of place, more downscale, less glitzy, but the chicas were just as attractive as Club Elite. I settled on a 20 year old Honduran spinner named Jessica. She wanted Q600 for a half hour and Q1200 for an hour. She wouldn't budge from this. I know that this is much, much more than mongers have reported paying, but I didn't want to go to yet another place. Besides, she had agreed to all my sexual requests, and I found her attractive. The room was not bad at all, and she was outstanding: DFK, DATY, BBBJ, CFS. Best sexual encounter I have had in recent memory. I think I'll go back tonight.
LorenzoEmphasis added, and here is the link: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=443516&postcount=207
Followup on my previous report. The next night I went back to Platinum and requested Jessica. She was available and we went back to a different room for an hour. It was the same as the night before, pure sexual ecstasy; DKF, BBBJ (con much gusto on Jessica's part), DATY, CFS. I then went to Tikal for two days and am now in Antigua for 3 days. I am planning to call Jessica tomorrow (Sunday)--she gave me her cell phone number--because the clubs are closed. She said she could come out to Antigua Sunday and return Monday.Again, emphasis added, and here is the link:http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=444386&postcount=209
The only negative thing that you wrote in all of your reports about Guatemala concerned the taxi drivers, not the chicas.
Moreover, you said that the only chica you did in Guatemala was the "best sexual encounter I have had in recent memory. " Since you were right in the middle of a 30 day sex tour at the time, how more powerful can a statement be than that?
You might feel differently now when you wish to make some other point. But the reports that you wrote which were contemporaneous to your time in GC were all extremely positive, Lorenzo.
I think they speak volumes. The readers of this thread can decide for themselves which of your reports to believe.
BTW, the report at the time clearly states that you spent only three days in Guatemala City. You may have been back since, but if it is really so bad there, why would you?
You wouldn't be adding the two days in Tikal and three days in Antigua, both non-mongering historical sites, just to pad the total, would you?
The best I can tell is that you were in GC three days, went to two clubs, one of which many of us have repeatedly posted warnings stating that it is a total clip joint and to stay away.
And you had one chica in all of Guatemala. And she was great!
All of this vast experience qualifies you as an expert on the Guatemala City scene, enough to warn people away from the place?
You have never been to Le Club? Or Capricho's? Or Platinos?
How about the Men's Club? Or Venus? Cats maybe? Extasis?
Baron Rojo? Oro Solido? Mediteranneo's?
Tell me what Casablanca's is like, okay? Where can we find 10-54?
Please teach the rest of us everything you know about Guatemala City.
In light of such limited experience, a little humility just may be in order on this one, my friend.
You wish to claim that Guatemala is more expensive than the termas in Rio? Tell me another whopper.
Basic termas such as Monte Carlo in Copa and Solarium in Le Jardin charge R60 entrance, R60 for forty minutes in the room, and R150 for the garota's time. Not counting drinks and such, 270 reals.
Luomo's in Copa comes out to R240, which is $140.
At the current exchange rate of 1. 71, that equals $158 for the first two, or more than double the $78 one pays in the high end Guatemala clubs.
And these are the very same clubs about which you wrote that the quality of the chicas approaches that of the garotas in Rio.
I was in all three of those termas last summer. It seems that I have been to many more places in Rio than you have been to in GC, but I would never pretend to be an expert on your favorite city.
Even though the dollar has fallen in Rio (but not in Guatemala), your statement that Guatemala is more expensive is again very puzzling.
In fact, it is flat out crazy.
Bubba Boy's report further states that Centaurus costs R310, Phoenix R160, and Rio Antigo R170.
Even the giant 4x4 in centro Rio was R200. I visited there also, and one is not likely to find a female to compare in quality to those in the better clubs in Guate. However, since you have not been to any of them, we can't expect that you would know.
In top strip clubs in Rio like Frank's and Barbarella's, the girls get R300. R400. They certainly have some hot girls, but the cost is much more than double that in Guatemala clubs. One might talk a garota there into accepting R200 (still a lot more than in Guate), but it is not very likely.
Honestly, I felt fortunate when I could find even one girl in each of the termas to be of interest to me. There were some nights in Rio I took a pass rather then feel like I ws lowering my standards.
And I have to confess, some nights I did lower my standards. But in fairness, over the course of a year in Guatemala there were also times that I lowered my standards.
That is a matter of opinion, of course, but the fact that these termas cost considerably more is not.
In fact if you find ANY garota in Rio, including the SWs on Ave. Atlantico, who are as cheap as the girls in the high end clubs in Guate, you have found yourself a real bargain.
We are all entitled to our own opinions, although most of us prefer to base them on more than a visit to two clubs and sessioning with only one (great) chica.
But no one is entitled to create his own set of facts. Rio termas cost far more that the clubs in Guatemala City. It's not close.
And furthermore, at the EXTREME low end La Linea in Guate is quite a bit cheaper than Villa Mimosa in Rio, too. Although its true that the $14 hookers in VM tend to be hotter than the $3 ones in Guate. I'll grant you that.
I am not trying to slam Rio at all. In finally going there last summer I realized a long time dream of mine.
It did not prove to be one of my favorite places, but that is mainly because the cost of mongering is so outrageous compared to what I am used to paying in other countries. Plus, I am really not into the gigantic asses the way some guys are.
But I may go back to Rio someday.
Now, Buenos Aires is my favorite place to monger in all the world. But let's not even begin to compare the cost of chicas at Black, Madaho's, or Shampoo in Bs. As. To those found in Guatemala City.
And that is not factoring other mongering costs such as airfare and hotels when traveling deep into South America.
It is a very good thing that you look so kindly upon inconsistency. For anyone who follows your reports it quickly becomes apparent exactly how important it is for you.
But for the rest of us, the facts will speak for themselves.
And I hope that those who can score a cheap flight to Guatemala will have a better grasp of what to expect now that they have read how satisfied both you and I were when we were there.
DB
Moreover, you said that the only chica you did in Guatemala was the "best sexual encounter I have had in
recent memory." Since you were right in the middle of a 30 day sex tour at the time, how more powerful
can a statement be than that?...
You wouldn't be adding the two days in Tikal and three days in Antigua, both non-mongering historical
sites, just to pad the total, would you?...
All of this vast experience qualifies you as an expert on the Guatemala City scene, enough to warn
people away from the place?....
You wish to claim that Guatemala is more expensive than the termas in Rio? Tell me another whopper.
Basic termas such as Monte Carlo in Copa and Solarium in Le Jardin charge R60 entrance, R60 for forty
minutes in the room, and R150 for the garota's time. Not counting drinks and such, 270 reals.
Luomo's in Copa comes out to R240, which is $140.
At the current exchange rate of 1.71, that equals $158 for the first two, or more than double the $78
one pays in the high end Guatemala clubs.
DB
--My statement about the "best sexual encounter" was made at the beginning of my Latin America journeys. I visited 15 Latin countries after Guatemala and had several sexual encounters that equalled or surpassed the ones in GC. Once again you are taking quotes out of context.
--Yes, I am counting all the time I spent in Guatemala. You said I only spent 3 days in the entire country, and I was correcting you. And how do you know I didn't monger in Tikal? Some of those howler monkeys can be quite sexy. (Note to DB: That was a joke. You usually are too slow to pick up on those.)
--I have never claimed to be an expert; I was just reporting my impression.
--One hour at the high end clubs, or at least Club Platinum, costs $156, or at least it did two years ago. At today's exchange rate, this make it more expensive than L'uomo in Rio, even by your own calculations. You were lucky if you paid for a half hour and they let you stay longer. Most tourists wouldn't know this and might not be accorded the same courtesy that you were as a regular.
This is absolutely the last thing I have to say on this subject. For some reason I have yet to fathom, you seem to have a personal ax to grind with me that has all the earmarks of a personal grudge. When Lil Bear posted his question, you could have just posted your opinion, as Traffic777 and I did, and let it drop. But no, you apparently feel compelled to dig through pages and pages of old posts to catch me in inconsistencies regarding things I posted two years ago, and in doing so waste bandwidth space on a needless debate. Why is what I think such an obsession with you? You really, REALLY, need to get a life. And if my posts are as worthless as you seem to think they are, why don't you just put me on your ignore list?
L
Dodger Bulldog
02-27-08, 06:35
I challenged the report below because it is inaccurate, quoted false pricing, and contradicted the earlier posts from the same member.
Please don’t be fooled by the false tone of authority. I would hate to see anyone completely misled by someone who portrayed himself as knowledgeable, when by his own admission his visits are “necessarily superficial.”
I am not doing any name calling or flaming, but I do think it is fair to use his own writings to point out exactly how inconsistent, contradictory, and possibly even bizarre his posts are:
Regarding Prolijo's observation that I "breeze through" a place just to say I've been there, I'll plead somewhat guilty. This brings us to just what one's core philosophy of travel may be. To me the essential choice is breadth v. depth, i.e., do I want to visit as many places as possible, even if that visit is necessarily superficial, or do I want to visit fewer places and explore them intimately, get to know them well, etc?This person mongered in Guatemala City for three days (although he tried to make it sound like eight). He admits he only went to two clubs. The first one was Elite, which anyone who even gives a cursory glance to this board will see that I, and many others, have repeatedly warned is a complete rip-off and incredibly overpriced clip joint.
At the only other place he went to, he admits that he knew he was paying way more than everyone else. I am not entirely clear if he paid 600 Q or 1200 Q, but I never paid more than 400 Q there.
Based on those two visits, he rates Guatemala as way overpriced and more expensive than Rio.
He arrives at this conclusion by doubling the 30 minute price which he had already inflated by 50% over what anyone else pays, then doubling it again, before finally comparing that against the price for a 40 minute session in a terma in Rio!
Isn't there a saying that figures lie and liars figure?
Nonetheless, he raved about the girl he did there and even repeated with her, maybe two more times (it's not clear). Now he tries to miniimize his ownwords:
--My statement about the "best sexual encounter" was made at the beginning of my Latin America journeys. I visited 15 Latin countries after Guatemala and had several sexual encounters that equalled or surpassed the ones in GC. Once again you are taking quotes out of context.That's what he says this now, even though in his comment below in whih he concluded that Guate's chicas approach the quality of those in Rio was found in his summary after his 30 day "sex tour" was finished.
He refers to Paradiso a high-end club, but no one else ever has. He never visited the real high end clubs: Le Club, Capricho’s, Mediteranneo, or Platino’s, which are acknowledged to have the hottest chicas.
Even so, he sure liked what he saw in Guate. Based on his “necessarily superficial” experience at a medium-rated club he gave this comparison:
Guatemala City has the highest concentration of quality chicas in all of CA, approaching but not equaling the termas in Rio.Rio is his favorite place in the world, and he uses that to compare all others against. I have taken his own ratings of the Central American countries he visited and arranged them in order. You can find the complete post here: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=454989&postcount=214
I'm a veteran Rio de Janeiro monger, and to me Rio is the pussy capital of the world, so Rio would get a 10: easily available sex, beautiful girls who are highly skilled sexually, and reasonable prices (although Rio has gotten more expensive lately).
COSTA RICA: OVERALL RATING: 9
EL SALVADOR: OVERALL RATING: 8.5
GUATEMALA: OVERALL RATING: 8
PANAMA: OVERALL RATING: 7
NICARAGUA: OVERALL RATING: 4
BELIZE: OVERALL RATING: 2.
HONDURAS: OVERALL RATING: 1.5
So there it is. I hope some mongers will find this helpful.So Rio is a 10, CR a 9, El Salvador an 8.5, and Guatemala an 8. Not bad. Those ratings may be pretty accurate.
But then he starts contradicting himself. In another post, CR is no longer better than El Salvador. He even tries to claim that CR is more expensive than Rio!
There is absolutely no comparison; Rio wins hands down. I have been to Rio 11 times and to CR twice. Rio is the pussy capital of the world, IMHO, with the only serious competitor being Bangkok. In San Jose, by contrast, pussy is available in abundance, but it is of lower quality and, paradoxically, more expensive than Rio pussy, or at least on a par, except in Rio's upper end termas. San Jose isn't even the best mongering spot in Central America; IMHO that honor belongs to San Salvador.CR rated a 9 in his book to Rio’s 10. Not bad for the shithole that he now claims it to be:
For the record, I have only referred to two places as shitholes, at least in recent posts, San Jose and Nicaragua although in the latter case I really meant Managua. So I have hardly found "so many places" to be shitholes. And let me define "shithole": a place that is ugly and without any redeeming aesthetic value, and is dangerous to boot.Well, at least he didn’t call Guatemala City a shithole.
Now, the reason I am including his contradictory statements about Costa Rica in this discussion of Guatemala is that I think it is very important for others to see that he has turned 180 degrees against them for some reason. He praised both places very highly at the time he visited them, almost as high as Rio, his “pussy capitol of the world."
Yet now he has the audacity to poor mouth both places, going so far as to call Guatemala "definitely not a place for mongering."
He acted as if he knows what is talking about, without disclosing that he only visited two clubs and did one chica there. The truth is that he has an almost complete lack of any mongering knowledge or experience in Guatemala.
And when you read his reports he admits it.
As I final note, I would like to point out that above he rated Costa Rica as a 9 to Rio’s 10, but then he has this to say:
Comparing CR to Rio is like comparing a Hyundai to a Rolls Royce, a hot dog to Chateaubriand, a Gallo red to Chateau Lafite Rothschild, Maxfield Parrish to Michelangelo, Neil Simon to Shakespeare, Eminem to Pavarotti.....but you get the idea. CR for the amateur, Rio for the connoisseur. Happy mongering, gentlemen. :rolleyes: I certainly hope that no one decides to steer clear of Guatemala or Costa Rica based on the convoluted conclusions of this member's incredibly inconsistent, superficial, inaccurate, and misleading reports.
If you have the opportunity to go for a reasonable cost to monger in Guatemala, don't hesitate.
Just read the reports on this thread and follow the advice of someone who actually lived there so you can avoid the pitfalls and maximize your experiences.
Viva Guatemala!
DB
Dodger Bulldog,
I said below that I wasn't going to say any more on this subject, and I'm not going to. But I'll repeat my message to you: GET A LIFE. Also: GET A GRIP.
I invite the users of this forum to review the last few posts and decide for yourselves, between DB and me, which one is the raving lunatic and which is the sane one. Keep in mind that all of his lengthy, raving diatribes are in response to a totally innocuous, 3-line, 4-sentence post of mine (#463 below) in which I voiced my opinion on GC. Since I made no reference whatever to him, his subsequent attacks on me are TOTALLY GRATUITOUS. Come to think of it, maybe DB's posts are already being transmitted from a loony bin; I hear mental facilities are quite permissive these days. :)
Could we bring this tiresome colloquy to an end? Enough is enough. It got old long ago. I am afraid that if you continue like this you'll work yourself up into a stroke, and then we'll no longer have the advantage of the occasionally useful reports you sometimes post.
L
ReallyaNiceGuy
03-01-08, 03:18
I had a pleasant experience here this morning.
Address, Ave.16 #17-42, Zona 10. Black gates with a small buzzer on the post on the right. It took a minute but a guy did come, he asked what I wanted, I said a massage and he opened the gate.
He pointed for me to go around to the side of the building to the entrance. I went in and was asked to sit down, then another customer came in and sat down to, in a few minutes the line up started only I didn't realize it was a line up because there was a big gap between girls. There were 6 girls and I would say there were 2 8's a couple of 6's and a couple of plump ones.
After the line up the boss lady talked in Spanish to other guy then he explained, in English, the pricing to me. It was 250Q for 30 minutes FS, 350Q for 60 minutes FS and if you wanted the massage included it was 450Q for 60 minutes.
He picked the first girl, the one I wanted, and went off to the back. The lady asked if I spoke any Spanish, I don't, and wanted to know what girl I wanted. I told her I wanted the second girl but she didn't know which one that was so she brought them back and I picked the other cute one and the boss took me to a room in the back. She asked how long I wanted and I went with the 350Q for 60 minutes, I paid her and she left me there. The room was plain, neat and clean and in a few minutes my girl came in.
Her name is Yvonne, 20, a little taller, real thin, cute, from a small town in Guatemala somewhere. She was friendly and playful, gave me a big hug and a little kiss on the lips. She undressed me, kissing my here and there as she went, then herself, then to the bed and some tender loving, hugging, petting, touching and body kissing each other.
I was getting turned on and she jacked me until I was hard the asked if I wanted a BJ, I said sure and she got a cover, I tried to talk her out of it but she wouldn't do it and she proceed with a great CBJ. I moved her around for some 69, she was shaved smooth but there was a faint fishy smell so I didn't really get into it much. I moved her down for a little RCG, what a view, then some CG and finished with me on top. She seemed to enjoy the workout I gave her. We laid together for awhile, she cleaned me up with a moist towel and before we got dressed I asked if I could take some photos of her, I told her that I would show them to her and if she didn't like it I would delate it and she agreed. She didn't like the first one, I deleted it and she was happy then she let me take a couple more. After she was dressed she looked great so I asked for one more and she said OK. Enjoy the photos.
Mike
PS: While I've been in Guatemala City for almost a month I haven't been able to play much because I got as sick as a dog and was in bed for 6 days so with coming down with the flu and recovering from it I was out of it for about 2 weeks total.
My hats off to the people, especially the maids, here at Las Torres because they took great care of me by going to the pharmacy for me, bring me food and keeping an eye on me while I was sick.
Dodger Bulldog
03-01-08, 19:26
Dodger Bulldog,
I said below that I wasn't going to say any more on this subject, and I'm not going to. But I'll repeat my message to you: GET A LIFE. Also: GET A GRIP.
I invite the users of this forum to review the last few posts and decide for yourselves, between DB and me, which one is the raving lunatic and which is the sane one. Keep in mind that all of his lengthy, raving diatribes are in response to a totally innocuous, 3-line, 4-sentence post of mine (#463 below) in which I voiced my opinion on GC. Since I made no reference whatever to him, his subsequent attacks on me are TOTALLY GRATUITOUS. Come to think of it, maybe DB's posts are already being transmitted from a loony bin; I hear mental facilities are quite permissive these days.Stop whining, Lorenzo, you were not personally attacked. On the contrary, anyone who reads your message can see that you are the one who is launching the attacks. That is because you have no other way to deal with how thoroughly you have been exposed here.
I did not call you any names or cast aspersions about your sanity, rather than address the points you made, as you have tried to do with me. But I have broad shoulders, so your ad hominen fallacies don't phase me.
All I have done is use your own writings to show that you have been to an astounding total of TWO clubs in all of Guatemala City. One is a clip joint that you were warned against, and the other is a club where you admitted that you knew you were paying far more than the going rate.
You use that as your evidence that Guate is overpriced?
Moreover, the grand total of your vast sexual experience in GC is with one, count'em ONE chica, of whom you said "was the best sexual encounter I have had in recent memory." You liked her so much that you even went back for a repeat.
And yet you have the chutzpah to make a definitive claim that Guatemala City is not a place for mongering!
If you would ever become humble enough to speak only in terms of your own personal experience, then your impressions would be appropriate.
However, when you take the liberty to generalize one isolated session to imply that you are so experienced and knowledgable that you are entitled to shoo people away from entire countries, let alone 90% of the whole of Central America, then your comments are over the top and out of line.
People deserve to know that contrary to the impression you try to leave, the truth is that you are laughably inexperienced in this city and bereft of any real knowledge of the mongering scene in Guatemala.
In addition, it was very revealing to show how highly you regarded Guatemala when you were actually there:
GUATEMALA: Guatemala City has the highest concentration of quality chicas in all of CA, approaching but not equaling the termas in Rio. They are also very skilled sexually and I had them do everything I asked. OVERALL RATING: 8Although it is truly absurd that you would speak in the plural about the "chicas" and how skilled "they" are and how much you had "them" do, since you only ever did one chica in all of Guatemala.
I don't want to see anyone who may be considering a trip to Guate to be completely misled.
Thus, it was important to reflect back your own words which prove that you not only contradict yourself, but that you really know nothing about which you speak. Once so informed, those members can judge for themselves the veracity and motives behind your writings.
It is sad that you become so defensive when your own words are reflected back to you.
So in the future, before you embarass yourself further, you may wish to remember that all of your previous words have been permanently captured here. Some of us know about the search and the quote functions, and aren't afraid to use them.
It may be wise to take your own advice and drop the matter.
DB
Greetings guys,
I don't really have the time to read all of this and make some sort of Solomon-like pronouncement as to who is the true BSD (Big Swinging Dick), so I'm just going to ask that you both consider toning down the voracity of your exchanges for the benefit of the forum in general.
Thanks,
Jackson
Okay, in deference to Jackson's request I'll tone it down. I just want to say for the record that Dodger Bulldog's posts contain more lies and distortions than I have fingers and toes, and I don't really have the time or the inclination to cite all of them one by one. I would just like to point out that he engages in selective editing, i.e., he'll take one of my posts and part of it, without leaving any indication, such as ellipses, that it has been edited. Thus quotes are distorted and taken totally out of context, even leading the reader to believe that I said the exact opposite of what I actually did. If anyone wants to see what I REALLY said--although I imagine most forum members have more important things to do--use the search function to pull up my actual posts. Maybe some day DB will grow up and learn that people can disagree without engaging in personal attacks and character assassination. But until that day, I suppose he's someone we'll just have to tolerate.
Lorenzo
ReallyaNiceGuy
03-03-08, 00:15
This report covers about three weeks and has taken me awhile to write with being sick and trips to El Salvador and Honduras.
I've actually been here several times since my first visit looking for one of the cute ones.
My next visit Freshwind and I went late in the afternoon. He sat with a tall thin 29 year old and I got a short and a little overweight girl named Debbie. She spoke a little English, lived in San Francisco, California for a while with her mom but got in some INS trouble and was deported back to Guatemala City alone although she has a brother that lives here. I was taken back when I asked her how old she was and she said 17, I said "What?" she said No, No, I'm 18 now, my birthday was last month.
Debbie was a lot of fun, lots of DFK'ing, roaming hands, lap dancing, putting her hands up my shorts and grabbing me while I played with her boobs and had my hands in her panties. We spent about 2 hours together and all for buying her 1 drink. I went ahead and took her to the room, 100Q for 15 minutes, good BBBJ and covered straight sex.
My next visit I went alone around noon and was grabbed by Debbie as soon as I walked in the door. Bought her a beer, looked around and saw nothing I liked. Debbie was all over me, DFK and giving me a HJ right in the bar, but I left after about an hour.
Next time I struck it rich and hooked up with one of the cute, thin, young girls there. What a great time I had with her. Her name was Alice, 20 years old, from Guatemala City, loving, tender and a total GFE both in the club and in the room.
Alice spoke very little English but we sat with another girl, don't remember her name, that had so-so English so we were able to talk and have fun.
The 3 of us spent about 1.5 hours together in the bar with Alice and I making out like teenagers on the couch and every once in a while the other girl would sneak in and start DFG'ing me too.
When I couldn't take it anymore Alice and I went to the room. I went with the 30 minutes for 150Q because as hot and bothered as she had me I knew that would be long enough and not have a heart attack. Once in the room it turned out Alice was as turned on as I was as she tore my clothes off as soon as the door closed. This was one of the hottest sessions I've had with a girl and she did it all with such passion and lust. I don't know what it was but I was able to do her forever and didn't finish until there was a knock at the door then a few more thrusts and the big bang. We collapsed together and rested until there was another knock at the door, we cleaned up, got dressed and went back to the bar to join the other girl.
The other girl starts telling me that she wants to see me outside of the club and wants to come to my place on Monday morning at 9:00 AM. I told her sure, gave her my address/directions and my cell but, you guessed it, she never showed up.
Next trip, around noon on a weekday, and Debbie grabbed me again. I had a Coke and spent about 30 minutes there but there was only 4 girls/women in the place so I took off.
I love this place, if I can get one of the cute ones, and will be back at least one more time before I go home on Thursday.
Mike
I invite the users of this forum to review the last few posts and decide for yourselves, between DB and me, which one is the raving lunatic and which is the sane one.
...I just want to say for the record that Dodger Bulldog's posts contain more lies and distortions than I have fingers and toes, and I don't really have the time or the inclination to cite all of them one by one. I would just like to point out that he engages in selective editing ... Thus quotes are distorted and taken totally out of context, even leading the reader to believe that I said the exact opposite of what I actually did. If anyone wants to see what I REALLY said--although I imagine most forum members have more important things to do--use the search function to pull up my actual posts. Maybe some day DB will grow up and learn that people can disagree without engaging in personal attacks and character assassination. But until that day, I suppose he's someone we'll just have to tolerate.I HAVE read the last few posts and have made my own decision. Dodger HAS gone after this topic with the tenacity of a Bulldog. I guess now we all know where he gets his name. I also suppose he should have used ellipses to indicate missing verbage, but do you really think anyone didn't realize those were probably selective quotes. Actually, I'm glad he didn't quote you in toto. Maybe those olds posts had their own inconsistencies or more likely simply not all of it was relevant. But, ultimately, I can't imagine any context that might have changed the basic thrust of what his quotes of yours stated (unless, for example, an "8" to you somehow means way way below average). Furthermore, while perhaps overzealous in his approach, his commentary HAS stuck to the points of your apparent inconsistency in your statements and relative lack of a REAL experiential basis for making such blanket statements. HE stuck to the facts and explained his basis for disagreeing with you, perhaps overstated but still within the voundaries of acceptable debate. OTOH, YOU were the one who failed to really answer his charges and instead turned it back with baseless and sarcastic aspersions on his sanity. Frankly, I think it is YOU who needs to learn how to "disagree without engaging in personal attacks and character assassination".
YOU were the one who failed to really answer his charges and instead turned it back with baseless and sarcastic aspersions on his sanity.
For one thing, I don't have the time on my hands that he apparently does. But the primary reason I didn't respond in the detail that I might have is that I don't have the computer skills to quote separate parts of a post and respond to each separately, i.e., quote-respond-quote-respond. Nor do I know how to quote two separate posts in the same response, as you just did in your post. If someone would like to tell me how to do this, I'm all ears.
But do you or do you not agree with my central point, that he could have simply stated his disagreement with me and posted his own opinion without the personal attacks, and my further point that someone who devotes this much time, energy, and effort just to show up someone else must have a few bolts loose upstairs? It's rather obvious that his posts are motivated primarily by personal animus toward me. I recall you, Prolijo, once posting your opinion about GC that was very similar to mine; in fact you AGREED with my assessment of many mongering spots, including GC:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=652773&postcount=1249
I especially call attention to your comment: "Guatemala? Lorenzo hit the nail on the head." Did DB attack you when you posted? Of course not. I have had differences of opinion with you in the past, and I don't recall your ever attacking me personally, nor I you. This is how gentlemen converse with each other. And by the way, as I have already said before, I DON'T CARE if my reports contain inconsistencies. I have already quoted Emerson on that subject; here's a quote from Walt Whitman: "I contradict myself? Very well, then, I contradict myself! I am large, I contain multitudes." (from "Song of Myself")
Anyway, I'm all for letting the matter drop. And BTW, it's "res ipsa loquitur."
Lorenzo
Lorenzo,
You left the ellipsis out from the beginning of that quote to indicate that something came before it. OMG! :)
It doesn't take any great computer skills to place a many quotes as you want in a post. In fact it is even easier than placing accented letters and special characters in your posts. Its called "cut and paste". Hit the "quote" button then edit the quote block however you'd like (remembering, of course to add the "..." whereever you delete text :)). Once, you've got it the way you want select the remaining text and copy it to your clipboard. Then go back to the thread and either click "reply" and paste the quote from your clipboard or hit "quote" on another message and paste from your clipboard into that. Repeat as many times as you need.
I agree that "he could have simply stated his disagreement with me and posted his own opinion without the personal attacks", but where were the personal attacks? He called you "inconsistent", but he backed that up with your own quotes AND that charge was central to HIS point that the judgements you were making were, well, totally messed up. OTOH, I disagree that "someone who devotes this much time, energy, and effort ... must have a few bolts loose upstairs." I suppose the same could be said about anyone who makes over 600 posts on a mongering board. The fun in mongering (or travel, for that matter) comes from the doing, not the writing about it. He may have over did it a bit on his research, but his posts were right on the mark in terms of discussing the merits of various mongering destinations and the various things that you have said about them in the past. You were the only one that strayed from that. If he has animus it is towards what you have said about the subject of this forum, animus towards you, if any, is merely an offshoot of that.
As for what I have said, the problem in citing me the way you did is that you also fail to include the context. What was I agreeing with you ON exactly? For those who care to see the entire conversation, it can be found in the San Salvador (ES) thread from last October (currently around www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=349&page=10&pp=15. My response was to your calling Guatamala "less than spectacular", which I'd still agree with (OTOH, I was never the one to give Guat an 8 either). And that is NOT AT ALL the same thing as depicting it as totally worthless for mongering as you seem to do in the last several posts.
...Guatemala? Good for sightseeing, but a less than spectacular mongering spot. Girls tend to be not all that attractive, and the better mongering spots are the most expensive in Latin America...BTW, in that post, you also called the guys who monger in CR "especially loutish" which I disagreed with. Here is the relevant part of my response:
...For the most part I pretty much agree with Lorenzo's assessment (with the exceptions being about CR monger loutishness and Rio being so great for non-mongering activities beyond enjoying its unarguably gorgeous beaches). ...Guatemala? Lorenzo hit the nail on the head......Actually, I should alter my concurrence slightly now. Most of the working girls in Guat at the low end affordable places AREN'T all that attractive (as is the case at nrealy all low-end places). OTOH, the ones at the high-end places are actually as beautiful as any I've seen elsewhere. The problem is that those high end chicas are no great bargain in terms of price. Anyway, that is MY assessment, but I will not try to paint myself as any great expert on Guatemala. I'm sure guys like DB who have lived there might know where to find the great bargains. The problem for guys like me and Lorenzo who just pass through is that those bargains are not so easily found.
AND MAYBE THAT IS WHERE EVERYONE SHOULD LEAVE THIS DISCUSSION.
One last off subject comment, not to nit pick, I'm no latin expert but I've seen res ips (which is the legal shorthand slang many lawyers use for it) spelled BOTH ways and if some lawyers can mispell it, then I guess I can be allowed to as well (if in fact I did). Besides, it was completely parenthetical to my last post and it wasn't like I was advising anyone to go into a CR bar and use that expression on a chica.
ReallyaNiceGuy
03-04-08, 20:53
This is from a few weeks ago. My friend Freshwind and I stopped in here on a Sunday because there was nothing else to do and we were on a quest to check out as many places as we could.
This is a low end place I guess for the local working guys. I would say that there were 10/12 women sitting in the lobby as we walked in. None were even close to being cute or even good looking and they were all a little over weight, some more than others. And they didn't look especially excited to see a couple of Gringos either, just kind of sat there and ignored us.
We looked around, picked what was the best looking of the lot, took them to another room next to the lobby, bought them a drink, sat for a while then went to the back bedrooms.
My girl, don't remember her name, was very nice and seemed to be into the warming up stuff with lots of DFK'ing and foreplay which I enjoyed too. When she was ready, so was I, we got down to it and the sex was very hot.
Overall it was OK but I haven't been back. I guess that if you've got to do something on a Sunday this place will do.
Note on the photos: She asked if I wanted some without her clothes on but I told her no this was OK.
Mike
ReallyaNiceGuy
03-05-08, 04:23
This is a nice place, expensive at 400Q/30 minutes and 500Q/60 minutes, but nice. Watch out for them asking if you want a drink, I got a Coke and it was 50Q. Address: Zona 10, 5 Ave. #7-84.
The line up was the best, all of the girls were wore next to nothing lingerie so you could see exactly what you were getting, most sat down on the couch and spent a few minutes "selling" their wares with kissing and touchy feely as they introduced themselves. And they were all real cute and some very sexy and friendly, there was 1 that was a little overweight but still looked nice.
I choose Julia who was, in my option, maybe the 3rd best looking but she spoke good English so I though we would connect the best, and I was right. She was a total GFE from beginning to end. Warm, passionate, sexy, loving, willing, fun and funny, clean, smelled and tasted great everywhere.
Mike
Note about the photos: Julia was different than most girls, she didn't what photos of her body only her face.
Dodger Bulldog
03-05-08, 04:55
The problem for guys like me and Lorenzo who just pass through is that those bargains are not so easily found.Hi Prolijo,
Thanks for your support.
I invested a good deal of time posting information about my impressions of the clubs, chicas, prices, and local practices in hopes that it will help those like you who are passing through.
Just as others have helped me on my journeys.
The intent is to maximize their fun, minimize their risk, and enable them to walk in with reasonable expectations and a comprehensive knowledge of the costs.
Someone who takes the time to give even a cursory glance to this thread would NEVER set foot into Elite, and would know better then to pay far more than the going rate at a place like Paradiso.
If a fellow mongerer does not read or chooses not to heed the advice that many of us have taken the time to provide in this forum, oh well. But little credence should be placed in any critcisms he may have.
For the umpteenth time I will repeat the one favorite trick I learned in Guatemala, hoping that anyone who finds himself there will benefit from it:
The way to get virtually UNLIMITED time with a chica is to tip the cleaning lady 5 Q BEFORE your session begins, and ask her for a little extra time. Once I started doing that, I never again had a knock at the door telling us that time was up.
Not only will she leave you alone, but the girls seem pleased that you took care of the woman.
It is the best 65 cents you will ever invest!
I have aways pointed out that there are many better places for mongering than Guatemala.
But having said that, if one finds himself there for some reason, or comes across an extremely inexpensive airfare to the city, it is a certainly worth exploring.
With a little research here along with an intelligent approach to mongering, no one will go away disappointed. This thread is full of posts from many others besides just me who have also had a great time pursuing our hobby in Guatemala City.
BTW, I had a great time in El Salvador, love Costa Rica, and have a special fondness for Nicas.
Some guys like most all of the chicas in Central America like you and I do, Prolijo. And some guys don't. Different strokes.
I was less than enthused about my trip to Rio last year. Still, I wrote mostly positive things about it, although I also shared some concerns. But I kept my posts specific to my own experiences and would never try to dismiss an entire city with millions of people and thousands of providers based on only two weeks of my time there.
Or even less.
I can easily recognize that the experience and knowledge of those who have made a long-term comiitment to the scene can provide much better guidance to others than I ever could. I would never go on the Brazilian threads to warn people to stay away or roll my eyes or label anyone who enjoys himself there an "amateur."
That would be not only be incredibly arrogant towards others, it would be inviting them to dispute my posts. Perhaps demanding it.
When visiting a country's thread, it only seems appropriate to show a little respect, doesn't it?
DB
...Someone who takes the time to give even a cursory glance to this thread would NEVER set foot into Elite, and would know better then to pay far more than the going rate at a place like Paradiso....
DB
--The very first post that ever warned against Elite as being a clipjoint was MINE. At the time I went there I had no way of knowing its true nature. Don't believe me? Use the search function to find all references to Elite in the Guatemala threads. You'll find that the oldest post is by you:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=375283&postcount=159
in which you quote Photo Time as saying Elite is a "large, classy night club." The very next post regarding Elite is mine, warning against it. So if people are warned against Elite, they have me to thank.
--Where did you ever get the idea that I went to Paradiso? I went to Club Platinum, or Platino, whatever it is called, where I was told the rate for an hour was $156, or the equivalent in quetzals. How was I to know that tipping the cleaning lady would give me more time. If you are going to quote my posts, at least do so accurately.
These are only more examples or your lies and distortions.
L
DB,
I've been mostly supporting you up to now but if you take even a cursory glance at this forum you will see that Lorenzo is right at least on this point. The first warning reference to Elite was by Lorenzo himself. I think you are probably confusing this with all the other warnings that have appeared since. I can see why it would be easy for you to make that mistake. After all, to old Guat hands, a lot of things like this are things they "just know" and who can really remember when an actual written warning about this or that first appeared.
Besides that, even if there had been an earlier warning reference somewhere, with the vast wealth of information contained in these threads, especially when researching the dozens of countries that Lorenzo was passing through, it would be extremely easy to miss something. After all who has the time or patience to read back all the way in most of these threads on the chance of picking up some obscure reference that might prove useful.
As for the part about tipping the cleaning ladies, it is funny you should mention that because coincidentally I was just posting something about that in the CR thread. That is a good piece of advice in countries such as these that applies in general even if it doesn't appear in one particular country's thread. That is a good example of the sort of thing that mostly only old mongering vets would know.
This all goes back to what I've been saying, to which I'll add, learning as much as possible from old vets before you go will help a little or even a lot but it still won't be a complete substitute for the type of experience one can only gain from actually being in a place a lot. If one wants to rate a country then they really need to specify in someway how they came up with that rating and to whom it applies. What is a great country for one type of vet might not be so great for another. Vets need to realize that when extolling the virtues of their favorite place thinking "how might this be experienced by someone who has never been here before and who doesn't know his way around quite so well?" and, at the same time, relative novices need to keep the same sort of thing in mind in evaluating a place before they write someplace off "might this place be more enjoyable if I invested the time to learn my way around there?"
I think these series of posts also highlights the perils of blanket statements and extreme comments, which is something Lorenzo might be fairly accused of at times. Sure there are some real shitholes in some places, but most places have at least some thung going for them (or against them) and even if they don't for you personally might not for someone else with a different set of needs or preferences. For example, I'm really only at best a half-mongerer. I'll never go to a place for ONLY mongering or that has little going for it other than its mongering opportunties however great those might be. Other guys might not really give a hoot about what sorts of sightseeing activities are available because they plan to spend their entire time in the MP's, termas or whatever. Its hard to really capture any place in a simplistic 1-10 ranking.
Dodger Bulldog
03-06-08, 04:32
Prolijo,
Yes, Lorenzo has a point here.
It doesn't really relate to the statement that "Guatemala is definitely not a place for mongering" which started all this discussion, but it is a point nonetheless.
I don't think the search function works very well, as I did see two posts about Elite as far back as 02-02-04. One of them cross-referenced itself back to an earlier post about "Josephine's," which was the previous name of the club, and talks about the high cover charge.
However, that would be soooo easy for anyone to miss that I accept Lorenzo's statement, as his was the first clear warning about the place.
Thank you Lorenzo!
As far as taking a words out of context to COMPLETELY change the meaning, I think this is a classic case that implies that I somehow endorsed Elite:
...You'll find that the oldest post is by you:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=375283&postcount=159
in which you quote Photo Time as saying Elite is a "large, classy night club." ...The truth is, that before moving to Guatemala I was seeking information and used the quote function to copy an old post that detailed many clubs in Guatemala. People can click on Lorenzo's link to see that, in fact, I was actually ASKING if the report was still accurate:
Please Update with Current Information
I found this comprehensive report from Photo Time, and it is exactly the kind of information that most of us are looking for.
However, it is now 2 1/2 years old. Can anyone provide updates, either to verify what is accurate, or to note any changes?...Oh well, Lorenzo, I forgive you.
If we ever run across each other's path I will be happy to buy you a beer.
Friends again?
DB
...If we ever run across each other's path I will be happy to buy you a beer.
Friends again?
DB
Okay by me. Life's too short to hold grudges.
You may be interested in how I got to Elite in the first place. I had written down the names of three highly recommended upscale mongering spots recommended in this thread--after all this time I can't remember which three--but the posts recommending them didn't give the address, and none of them were listed in the phone book. So I got a taxi and gave the driver the names of all three. Not surprisingly, he hadn't heard of any of them. So I asked him to take me to a nice place where I could find chicas, and he took me to Elite. It didn't take me long to figure out that this was a ripoff joint, so I left and took another taxi, giving the driver the names of the same 3 places. This guy had heard of them, but he said they were all "peligroso, muy peligroso." He said he knew a place that was "muy seguro" (translation: he was getting a kickback) and took me to Club Platinum. This time I hit paydirt.
Moral: always provide addresses with your recommendation. I'm not sure I always do this myself, but it's a good idea nonetheless.
Lorenzo
Dodger Bulldog
03-07-08, 04:09
Okay by me. Life's too short to hold grudges.Damn, that makes me fell like having some makeup sex!
So tomorrow night I am going to head to a club near my hometown in search of one of my all-time favorites...
DB
Balls Rawls
03-27-08, 09:44
This is my first report here, but I thought I'd make a post about my recent rip to Guatemala. Probably nothing of value for the old hands, but it might be useful to the newbie who may come through.
I stayed at the Holiday Inn in Zone 10. It is in a great area, and a lot nicer then Holiday Inns in the US. They have cheaper rates on weekends, as they cater to business travelers.
The only place I went to in Guatemala was Platinum Club, but let me say that the place is awesome. Now, I should say that I really enjoy strip clubs, and that is exactly what Platinum is, and one of the best ones I've been to. It cost about 6$ to get there from the Holiday Inn, and it's pretty close. My first visit was on Saturday night. The place was quite crowded with locals, but it is an upscale crowd. I didn't feel out of place at all, and I do not speak much Spanish whatsoever.
When you get there, there will be a bunch of people milling around outside, which might be intimidating to some, but there is nothing to worry about. It's a good crowd inside. The door guy gives you a half ass pat down for weapons; I guess I don't look too dangerous. There is no cover.
On Saturday there was around thirty girls working, maybe a few more. A big Gallo beer is about 6 bucks, which might be expensive, but well within my price range. I took a seat at the stage and watched the show. There is a constant parade of chicas here, no bullshit like 15 minutes between dancers or anything. And they get fully naked for a while; I've been to some places in Mexico where they drop their panties for a few seconds before they run off stage. Tipping the dancers is not done here. I would have been more than willing to give a dollar to get some twat rubbed in my face, but I wasn't about to start something. The shows are top notch; the highlight was two girls with candles dumping hot wax over their naked bodies. Every girl is hot as well; I consider my standards pretty high, but there wasn't a girl in the place I wouldn't have poked.
The lap dances are great. They last two songs and cost about $13. The girls keep their panties on, but I didn't have any objection to me exploring with my hands underneath. The waiters will try to get you to buy the girls drinks at another $13. I went along with this a couple of times, but stopped after, and nobody was offended. I got 5 or 6 lap dances and they are great; but then again, I am a big fan of lap dances, so full contact for two songs at $13 is a great deal as far as I'm concerned, but your mileage may vary. The only drawback is that these dances take place right out in the club, no private area is really available. For dances.
Now, onto the good stuff. All the girls are available to take to a private room, of which 4 rooms are available. The cost is $84 for 30 minutes, but the lady doesn't come knocking if you go over a little bit. This might not be the best bargain in Guatemala, but I think it's a good deal for me. 30 min is plenty of time to fuck, and to tell the truth, I'd rather be back drinking beer and watching the show that cuddled up with a chica for an hour. I didn't try any negotiation.
I don't remember names, but the first girl I had sported a playboy bunny tat on her ass and a high quality flower design to the side of her lower abdomen. Any old hands know who I'm talking about? She was really awesome and "loving" not rushed at all. She started with a great BBBJ then straddled my face so I could lick her fresh pussy. When I gave the word, she slipped on the rubber and got on top. She rides really well. I fished in the dog, filling the condom while cupping her luscious ass cheeks. Best $84 I ever spent.
I came back on Monday too, more beer dances etc. I decided on a girl with great big fake tits who danced in a Brazil bikini. She had pierced nips and pussy. I had always wanted to fuck a pair of fakes, so I asked her if I could without a rubber and she agreed without hesitation. In the room, it was mish (with condom) followed by some dogging until I was ready for the big show. I slipped off the condom and straddled her. She jerked me off while I lubed up her tits. Damn, my cock felt great engulfed in her flesh pillows. I thought my request would be met with hesitation, but she seemed really into it, squeezing those monsters together and licking my tip. She said lots of what I took to be encouraging words in Spanish, and after what seemed like an eternity, I let loose all over her tits and chin. She seemed to like it, rubbing my load around and what not. Seeing her well glazed tits was one of the sexiest things I've ever seen, and after a few more beers I left a very happy and relaxed man.
I didn't have the balls to ask for any photos, which I regret, but there's always next time.
My only gripe with the place (and El Salvador too) is that there wasn't a female pube in the place. I've got nothing against a bald beaver, but I like a little grass in the field for varieties sake from time to time.
All in all, Platinum is a GREAT place, but don't expect to have much fun in a US strip club when you return.
Cheers,
BR
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Balls Rawls,
Great report, especially for a forum debut! It's uncanny how closely your visit parallels mine, exactly two years ago this month. I too stayed at the Holiday Inn and went only to Platinum Club, and went back a second time as well, only with the same chica. I would venture to say that most of the great looking chicas are not Guatemalan, but from El Salvador or Honduras.
Prices seem to have gone up slightly in 2 years. Then it was $78 for a half hour, $156 for a full hour. This is probably due to the continuing decline of the dollar. However, this constitutes the main drawback to p4p in Guatemala--the price. That same half hour would have cost a little over $20 in El Salvador, as you probably know. Guatemala is definitely the most expensive p4p in Central America, possibly in all of Latin America (or at least very close).
One suggestion for future reports. I order to help brother mongers, give us the names of the chicas with whom you had great experiences so that others can experience them as well. Again, a great report.
Lorenzo
Dodger Bulldog
03-28-08, 06:15
...This is probably due to the continuing decline of the dollar.Lorenzo...Well, not exactly.
In fact, that's not even remotely close to the truth.
Since 2005/2006, in Guatemala the dollar has dropped from 7.63 Q to 7.60 Q today, or less than 4/10 of one penny!
Rather, it sounds like they raised the price by 50 quetzales.
...I would venture to say that most of the great looking chicas are not Guatemalan, but from El Salvador or Honduras...That would be personal opinion of course, of which everyone is entitled. But the Nicas are the clear winners in my book, for both looks AND attitude. Although I have met some fine chicas from El Salvador and Honduras in Guatemala, also.
It should be noted that virtually all of the talent does come from outside of the country. You are hard-pressed to even find a Guatelmalteca working at these clubs.
I described the night I was at Platinos when a warning went out that immigration was coming, and that I watched every chica but one clear out of the place. The poor Guatemalan girl had to dance for about 45 minutes straight until the coast was clear!
At its better clubs, Guatemala does have higher prices than the surrounding countries, which is the very reason that, as a rule, it also has better talent. The owners of those clubs go on periodic recruiting trips to the nearby countries (plus Panama), and bring back many of the hottest girls based on the fact that they will earn more if they come to work in the biggest city in Central America.
...That same half hour would have cost a little over $20 in El Salvador, as you probably know. Guatemala is definitely the most expensive p4p in Central America, possibly in all of Latin America (or at least very close)...
LorenzoOnly if you continue to insist on jobbing the numbers.
You begin by comparing the price of the high end club here to something completely different in other countries. Apples and oranges.
And it is odd that you would continue to perseverate about "30 minutes," as if that is of any significance. Please let's NOT go round and round again, but also, let's stop misleading everyone when the facts have already been established to be different.
Not only have I often discussed on this thread how to avoid any alleged time limit, but Balls Rawls also clearly stated that there was NO knock at the door to enforce it.
The cost is $84 for 30 minutes, but the lady doesn't come knocking if you go over a little bit. This might not be the best bargain in Guatemala, but I think it's a good deal for me.As I said above, everyone is entitled to his opinion. However, any newcomers will want to keep in mind that "air of authority" of the spokesman immediately preceeding me has based his "knowledge" on just about the most limited experience any one can possibly have in a country.
He admits he has only been to Guatemala City for three days. He went to only two of the clubs, and has only ever had sex with a grand total of one chica there.
One.
DB
P.S. Lorenzo stated an opinion based on the extent of his experience. I countered so as to make sure that newcomers can have some perspective when deciding how to regard it. One can choose to believe whoever he wishes. Please, let's leave it at that.
There are almost 500 reports that people can read to learn from total knowledge base of the membership.
....Please let's NOT go round and round again....
Translation: let you have the final word. Sorry, Charlie, but it doesn't work that way. I don't roll over and spread my cheeks for anyone.
On 3/5/08, Dodger Bulldog said the following:
...If we ever run across each other's path I will be happy to buy you a beer.
Friends again?
DB
Here was my response on 3/6/08:
Okay by me. Life's too short to hold grudges.....
Lorenzo
And his response to me on the same date:
Damn, that makes me fell like having some makeup sex!....
DB
So much for "friendship!" I was wondering how long this "truce" would last; now I know. Exactly 21 days. And please note who broke it. DB seems incapable of disagreeing with someone, or at least with me, without engaging in personal attacks as well as making distortions or outright lies. So if this results in "going round and round again," please note who started it.
What are DB's distortions? He repeatedly accuses me of presenting myself as some kind of "expert" or "authority" on a mongering site, when I have never done anything of the kind, not even remotely. I have always been completely up front about my experiences: how long I was in a place, how many places I visited, how many girls I had, including their names, and how much I paid. All I EVER do is report my experiences and then give my impressions or opinions. Period. It's up to the reader to evaluate those impressions and opinions in light of exactly what I experienced. To cite an example, Balls Rawls in the post below reports experiences nearly identical to mine: same hotel, same club, same number of visits (except he had two different chicas, whereas I went back to the same one). Yet DB doesn't attack Balls Rawls, or accuse him of considering himself an expert, or sneer at his limited acquaintance with the mongering scene in GC, yet he does all of that with me. What better evidence is there that DB is motivated primarily be a personal animus toward me and not by any desire to provide helpful mongering information is the fraternal spirit of this forum. Why? Who knows? Only a shrink--something DB could use--could tell us that.
DB mentions over and over again, in numerous posts, that I visited only 2 clubs in GC and mongered with only one chica. So what? So fucking what? I have never claimed otherwise. How does that disqualify me from commenting on my experiences, on the prices, and on the quality of the chicas in that club, and by assuming, BACKED BY OTHER REPORTS ON THIS FORUM, that this Club is representative of upper end clubs in GC and making a generalization about the upper end mongering scene? Has DB never heard of representative sampling? Does he think that when polls are taken about, say, the current US presidential race, all 100,000,000+ potential voters in the US are interviewed? Of course not! A representative sample is taken--a very small one, I might add--and from this sampling generalizations are made, with the margin of error noted. That is exactly what I have done here, except that I don't know the margin of error. That's why I read other reports.
I want to get back to the original point I was making in my previous post, that GC is an inordinately expensive mongering spot, by far the most expensive in Central America and among the most expensive in all of Latin America. In fact, here is the original post that set DB off:
GC is one of the most expensive cities in Latin America for mongering, and the girls there are probably the least attractive. Definitely not a place to visit for mongering. The country, however, is another story. You could easily spend two weeks there visiting the various Mayan ruins.
To prove this, I am going to make some comparisons among various Latin American mongering spots. But first, since DB, at least implicitly, questions my qualifications to comment or make comparisons on mongering, I think I need to establish my mongering "cred."
I began my international mongering hobby in January 1966. Since then, I have mongered on 6 continents. I won't list all the countries I have mongered in, but will limit myself to Latin America. I have mongered, i.e. engaged in commercial, p4p sex, in all of the following places: Mexico, Puerto Rico, Cuba, Belize, Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, Panama, Ecuador, Chile, Argentina, Uruguay, Paraguay, Brazil, Venezuela, and Colombia (including the island of San Andres). Belize probably doesn't qualify as a Latin country, but since it's in Central America I'm going to use it for purposes of comparison. Although I have visited Peru and Bolivia, I didn't monger in either country, Peru because I was sick and Bolivia because the girls were too butt-ugly to arouse my interest.
Why am I listing all these places? Not to brag, but to establish my qualifications for commenting on and making comparisons among various mongering sites in Latin America. I could probably count on the fingers of one hand the number of contributers to this forum who have mongered in as many or more Latin American locations than I have. The only ones who come to mind are Tunguruaha and Ezinho, maybe El Austriaco (if I've omitted anyone, please assert yourself and forgive me). But my point is that I think I can speak with some authority.
DB accuses me of comparing "apples and oranges." Another lie, but to avoid being accused of that again, I want to make it clear at the outset that I will be comparing apples with apples. What I am going to do is compare prices at BROTHELS--high end brothels, in most cases--and ONLY brothels throughout Latin America. NOT streetwalkers. NOT hooker bars, like Blue Marlin in San Jose, La Dolce Vita in Cartagena, and Help! in Rio. And NOT hotels with hookers hanging around, like Sportsmen's Lodge in San Jose or Blackbeard's in the Dominican Republic. Just brothels.
First, let's define what a brothel is. Any place that has girls hanging around and in which you can take her to a room on site and have sex with her is a brothel. Club Platinum in GC is a brothel. Not a bar, not a strip club, but a brothel, with a bar and strip club attached. Zona Blue in San Jose is a brothel with a hotel attached. The termas is Rio are brothels.
So here is my assertion: that the high end brothels in GC are the most expensive in Central America and among the most expensive in all of Latin America, by several degrees of magnitude. In other words, mongering at an upper end brothel in GC will cost you not just more, but two, three, four, and in at least two cases eight times more than in other countries. In support of this assertion I will present not just opinions but FACTS, based, except where otherwise noted, on my own personal observations and experiences. But first a disclaimer: I am not including Mexico and Puerto Rico in my comparisons because my mongering experiences there were too long ago to allow a meaningful comparison. And I am excluding Cuba because, as far as I know, there are no brothels in Cuba (if anyone knows of exceptions, please let me know). In Cuba, one must rely on streetwalkers or pickups in bars (dangerous because of undercover police).
So, here is the first FACT: a half hour in Club Platinum will cost you $84 (yes, yes, I know you might be able to stay longer, which is meaningless, because exactly how much longer is unclear). Note that this doesn't include chica drinks, which you will be hustled for, and I don't remember whether there is a cover charge. And as I already said, I am assuming, based on other reports in the GC thread, that these prices are representative of upper end GC brothels. Now, what will this same $84 get you elsewhere in Latin America? (BTW, all prices listed below are in US dollars at the rate of exchange at the time I was there.)
--FACTS: San Salvador, El Salvador: $84 will get you two hours at Kiss Fresh in, at $40 per hour, plus pay the $3 cover charge, leaving $1 left over. And don't even try telling me this is "apples and oranges;" KF is consistently the highest rated brothel on the SS threads, and I have frequented it myself many times. ADVANTAGE: San Salvador.
--FACTS: Belize City, Belize: $84 will get you one hour at Raul's Rose Garden on the city's outskirts, with $4 left to go toward the $40 round trip cab ride from the city. Raul's is, as far as I know, the only brothel in the whole country, and it is a dump. ADVANTAGE: Guatemala City (based on quality, not price.)
--FACTS: San Pedro Sula, Honduras: I couldn't find any high end brothels. INSUFFICIENT DATA.
--FACTS: Tegucigalpa, Honduras: I couldn't find any high end brothels, or low end either, for that matter, where you could get any more than a hand job. So I called an escort service, with less than satisfactory consequences. INSUFFICENT DATA.
--FACTS: Managua, Nicaragua: According to reports posted on the Managua thread, there are brothels in Managua. I didn't visit any because the city is just too hard to get around for a newcomer (no street names or numbers), so I used an escort service. Therefore I am unable to make a brothel comparison. INSUFFICIENT DATA.
--FACTS: San Jose, Costa Rica: SJ is an excellent mongering spot (although a lousy city), but I didn't go to any brothels, so I can't make a comparison. I mongered with chicas from Blue Marlin and those hanging around Sportsmen's Lodge. Reports on this forum indicate that Zona Blue is a pretty good upscale brothel, and from the many pictures that have been posted, the chicas from there appear to be first rate. But no first hand experience, so I can't rate. INSUFFICIENT DATA (for brothels only).
--FACTS: Panama City, Panama: $84 will get you one hour at River Club, with $4 left over to apply to your taxi ride. Only a so-so place, but you do get a full hour up front. TIE.
--FACTS: Quito, Ecuador: $84 will get you two full hours at 557 Jose Tamayo, with $4 left over for your taxi. And this is definitely an upscale brothel; in fact, I chose it because it had already been mentioned several times on the Quito thread as an upscale brothel. ADVANTAGE: Quito.
--FACTS: Santiago, Chile: Brothels are hard to find here, because the Santiago thread is one of the worst on this entire forum as far as information goes. I had to go to the classifieds in the local paper to find something. At Oasis Providencia, Av. 11 Septiembre 1447, the chicas are choice but it is hardly upscale. It is clean, but the "bed" is a mattress, with clean sheets, on the floor, and a space heater for warmth (I was there in winter). $84 will get you an hour with a choice chica with $14 left over. (Fee is normally $60, but they charge $10 extra for BBBJ.) This is tough one, but on balance I would have to say: TIE.
--FACTS: Buenos Aires, Argentina: The best brothel I went to was a private apartment recommended on the Argentina Private forum, at Suipacha 921, Apt. 6C. $84 will get you an hour with a choice chica with excellent service, plus $36 left over. In other words, I paid $48. I thought this was a real bargain, but after I posted my report, some posters said I was charged the gringo rate; these guys paid only $32. I went to other apartment brothels as well, but this was the best. BA is a mongering paradise. ADVANTAGE: Buenos Aires
--FACTS: Montevideo, Uruguay: Based on recommendations in this forum, I went to Candy's, Soriana 1271, reputed by many to be Montevideo's best. I was not disappointed. $84 there will get you four hours with a choice chica (yes, $20 for an hour) with $4 left over. Great sex, enthusiastic service too. The girl I was with will go bareback if you want. A note of warning: I had read warnings on the forum about double pricing for gringos, so I had a local make the call to get the pricing. The gringo price is $70 per hour. ADVANTAGE: Montevideo.
--FACTS: Asuncion, Paraguay: I found a pretty well known brothel from a commercial Paraguayan website. It was located at Av. 14 de Mayo 1008. For what is probably the least visited Latin country in South America, Asuncion has a thriving brothel scene. Many brothels with choice chicas and excellent service. This one was definitely upscale, friendly management that wants you to be pleased, no double pricing. $84 will get you four hours (at $20 per hour) with a delectable chica, with $4 left over. ADVANTAGE: Asuncion.
--FACTS: Caracas, Venezuela. Unfortunately I didn't visit any brothels in Caracas and used an escort service instead. Why? The reports on this forum repeatedly emphasized the dangers on the street, even in daytime, and the lunatic who drove me from the airport almost got me killed. So I thought I would get some tension relief in my hotel room. I wasn't disappointed. But, INSUFFICIENT DATA.
--FACTS: Cartagena, Colombia. I avoided the mongering disco/bar La Dolce Vita and instead went to a brothel, Pleyclub in Bosque, an upscale bar/brothel that had been recommended on the forum. It is like Club Platinum in GC but smaller. I got there before they opened, but they found a chica for me. I paid $114 for an hour, high by South American standards but still far less than the official rate for an hour at Club Platinum. Other posters told me I overpaid, but the girl just wouldn't come down, and I was already there. But I had a great sexual experience with a beautiful large-breasted woman, so it was worth it. ADVANTAGE: Cartagena.
--FACTS: San Andres, Colombia. This is an island in the Caribbean that is closer to Nicaragua than to Colombia. There is only one upscale brothel on the island, Club Sexy, so of course I went there. Cost: 1/2 hour $53, full hour $106. I chose the latter. Great sexual experience with a choice, intelligent girl. ADVANTAGE: San Andres.
--FACTS: Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. I have saved Rio for last, because it is difficult to make a comparison, for several reason. Moreover, I have not been there since August 2006, so prices may have gone up. So I can only compare prices as they were at the time. Rio is replete with upscale brothels. One, Centaurus, is very expensive and much more than anything in GC. Others, like L'uomo, Monte Carlo, and Solarium are comparable. And some of the Centro termas, like 4x4, are much cheaper. In fact, if you get to 4x4 before 5pm you can get in, spend an hour with a garota, and leave, paying only $100. Very few places in the world can compare to Rio. ADVANTAGE: Rio.
So there you have it: Guatemala City, 1; other cities, 9; tied, 2; insufficient data, 5. It is important to note that the reason that there was insufficient data for 5 cities was because I didn't go to any brothels, and I was comparing the brothel situation. So I think I have provided abundant support for my origianl assertion that the cost of mongering in GC, when quality is factored in, is the most expensive in Central America and among the most expensive in Latin America. I am not saying that GC isn't worth visiting. I am just saying that it isn't the best spot to monger in.
One more thing: the meretricious, treacherous character assassin Dodger Bulldog repeatedly accuses me of being inconsistent. Here is my comparison of Central American countries from two years ago that he consistently throws in my face:
BELIZE: OVERALL RATING: 2.
GUATEMALA: OVERALL RATING: 8
EL SALVADOR: OVERALL RATING: 8.5
HONDURAS: OVERALL RATING: 1.5
NICARAGUA: OVERALL RATING: 4
COSTA RICA: OVERALL RATING: 9
PANAMA: OVERALL RATING: 7
Lorenzo
Now look at my capsule comments above, then compare them with my ratings from two years ago. Do you see anything inconsistent? No, everything is completely consistent. Some of the ratings may have been somewhat high, but that was before I toured South America. But the proportions are totally consistent. Besides, people do have a right to change their minds over the years, something the willfully obtuse Dodger Bulldog doesn't understand. And I have come to agree with Prolijo, that rating countries on a 1-10 scale is somewhat simplistic, so I have stopped doing it.
I am already imagining what DB's ferocious response to this post will be, so I'm going to preempt some things he will most likely say. First of all, I am not citing myself as an "expert" on any of the cities I discussed, so don't even go there. I am just reporting my experiences, observations, and opinions. Secondly, don't go fishing through years-old reports of mine to find inconsistencies. Yes, you'll probably find some. I don't care. You'll probably find inconsistencies among the posts of any forum member whose posts number in the hundreds. Finding inconsistencies doesn't prove a thing.
I rest my case.
Lorenzo
Full Throttle
04-18-08, 23:15
I thought the list was excellent. A couple things to embellish:
Buenos Aires: There are far nicer apartments than Suipachia 921. But, that's an okay one for the comparison. There is so much more to offer there...
Quito: Quito is a nicer city overall, but most of the brothels I've been in are terrible. There are exceptions as noted, but even there the quality of service is mediocre on average.
Santiago: There are many, many brothels. I would say they fall half-way between Suipachia 921 and your average Guat City brothel. Big Bug, kind of an odd character, is the only source of local information and his opinion is very narrow in favor of a strip joint/ take-out place that I don't like.
San Jose: I've come to like the city a little bit. The casinos have poker, the nightime compound area is fairly nice and the restaurants are excellent and cheap, the Blue Marlin is fun in the afternoon, Key Largo at night, the low-end places late night, and Zona Blue, New Fantasy, Oasis and other massage places are good in the day. And, there's no subterfuge, sex places are well-lit and in plain view.
ANYWAY, I will be in town for about 1.75 days next Wednesday and Thursday. If anyone is around and would like a wingman, let me know.
Full Throttle
Dodger Bulldog
04-19-08, 10:28
Well, I have been in Peru where I was fortunate enough to get to know 7 different chicas quite intimately. Which would allow me to speak with about 700% more authority on Lima than someone who claims that he doesn't want to brag, but that he has the "mongering cred" to judge all of Guatemala based on having sex with, ummm, ONE chica there.
A sampling?
Yes, in the U.S. professionals sample a group of approximately 1500 voters who are scientifically selected to represent all parts of the country and all socioeconomic and ethnic groups, from which they can extropolate results through the law of large numbers. And still they aways refer to having a margin of error. And many times the polls still prove to be wrong.
But they dont just sample ONE person and claim it represents the entire country.
That would be like having sex with ONE chica, saying it was the best sexual experience that you have had in quite some time, saying that Guatemala has the highest concentration of attractive chicas in all of Central America, and saying that the chicas are very skilled sexually and did everything that you asked.
And then extropolating all that to conclude that the chicas are the least attractive in Latin America and Guatemala is definitely not a place for mongering.
Geezus, what would be the margin of error in that "poll?" Pert near 100%?
Some people would choose to continue defending the above contradictions until they are blue in the face, stomping their feet, fuming out the ears, pointing fingers at others, and doing anything else they can think of to distract others from paying attention to the words they wrote.
However, more mature persons just might be big enough to admit that it all sounds very silly, apologize that they obviously had forgotten what they wrote previously, and admit that none of it should be taken the least bit seriously.
I had a good laugh when I tried to keep my eyes from glazing over while catching up on this thread. I fell asleep twice, but eventually managed to get through an extremely long post below.
So much for "friendship!" I was wondering how long this "truce" would last; now I know.Friends don't let friends drive drunk. Nor do they let friends totally fabricate falsehoods about currency exchange rates from whole cloth. To allow that comment to stand would be to allow an absurd fiction to be presented as if it is a fact to anyone who is researching this thread.
I wonder why Lorenzo chose to address just about everything imaginable in his post, EXCEPT for my correction of his total fabrication that the dollar has weakened in Guatemala?
Obviously, I have condensed it and highlighted some key points, so that we can see just how many inconsistencies can one make in a single post. Let's all count:
He repeatedly accuses me of presenting myself as some kind of "expert" or "authority" on a mongering site, when I have never done anything of the kind, not even remotely...
Not to brag, but to establish my qualifications for commenting on and making comparisons among various mongering sites in Latin America...
I can probably count on the fingers of one hand the number of contributers to this forum who have mongered in as many or more Latin American locations than I have...
But my point is that I think I can speak with some authority...
First of all, I am not citing myself as an "expert" on any of the cities I discussed, so don't even go there. So we are to understand that Lorenzo is not an expert or an authority (not even REMOTELY, ha ha), while in the same post he states "I think I can speak with some authority."
Everyone got that straight?
Forgive me for being slow on the uptake, but I am at a loss to grasp whatever difference he imagines that there is between denying that he is an authority while simultaneously stating that he speaks with authority.
Sort of like it depends on what the meaning of of the word "is" is? Or how remote "remote" is?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks to me like it is all just meaningless posturing.
As far as all of the comparisons, whatever. If comparing a high end strip club in GC to an massage parlor like ZB in San Jose or a mid-level terma like 4 x 4 in Rio isn't comparing apples and oranges in your book, then fine. It certainly is in mine.
It would make a lot more sense to me to compare a $40 session at a mid-level club in GC with a $40 session in a place like Zona Blue. But then, some people place no value whatsoever on the concept of consistency.
Of course Lorenzo insists that it should be off limits to discuss any of his inconsistencies. It does destroy the "cred" that he so covets when one reads both of these quotes:
GUATEMALA: Guatemala City has the highest concentration of quality chicas in all of CA, approaching but not equaling the termas in Rio. They are also very skilled sexually and I had them do everything I asked. OVERALL RATING: 8
GC is one of the most expensive cities in Latin America for mongering, and the girls there are probably the least attractive.
I have to admit that this is when I busted out with fall-on-the-floor, side-splitting laughter:
All I EVER do is report my experiences and then give my impressions or opinions. Period. It's up to the reader to evaluate those impressions and opinions in light of exactly what I experienced.Oh my gosh, how more humble can one monger be? Indeed, it almost sounds noble!
And to think that this from a comes fellow who is so modest that he has a habit of placing links to is own posts in the various "Reports of Distinction" threads around the board...
Now if only that were so there would be no problem whatsoever. Personal experience and impressions are fine. A modicum of humility like that, as opposed to the hubris of certainty and infallibilty, would be greatly appreciated.
If Lorenzo was just relating his one single experience, and his impression, why would he write things like he is going to "prove" his points, while making "assertions" and rankings; calling his opinions of which brothels are best the "FACTS," and by choosing to conclude his diatribe with the finality of these words:
"So there you have it."
I guess we are to consider it the be-all and end-all of "All I EVER do is report my experiences and then give my impressions or opinions. Period. " But by definition those two things don't need proven. And can't be proven.
However, since Lorenzo "proven" his "impressions or opinions" or, indeed, "facts," perhaps this thread should be closed down immediately before someone offers a different opinon. Which by Lorenzo's definition would already have been proven false and wrong in advance by someone who "speaks with authority" due to having visited all of two clubs and had sex with one chica.
It is the judgemental, overarching, slam-the-door-shut-on-the-whole-idea condemnations that are so grating. It is the solemn pronouncement that Lorenzo originally wrote, and is proud to quote again in his last post, that Guatemala is "Definitely not a place to visit for mongering."
GC is one of the most expensive cities in Latin America for mongering, and the girls there are probably the least attractive. Definitely not a place to visit for mongering.
I have consistently stated that there are much better places to monger than Guatemala. I have said that it is not the cheap country to go. But neither is it the most expensive.
I have never tried to defend Guatemala as being anywhere near the top ten mongering spots in the world. I have no dog in that fight.
My point simply is that if one finds himself in Guatemala, or comes across a very cheap flight there such as those occasionally offered by Spirit for less than $100 round trip, one can certainly find plenty of ways to have a good time there.
Just as I did. Just as Lorenzo initially stated that he did. Just as many other mongers have reported on this thread that they did.
It definitely IS a place to visit for mongering if the above conditions are right, and I will continue to challenge any pronouncement to the contrary. I lived there for 2005 and 2006, and I enjoyed my time spent mongering there very much.
Finally, my experience as a professional investigator has taught me that the one screaming the loudest is invariably the guilty party. I have disagreed with Lorenzo's opinions, liberally quoted his own posts to point out his numerous inconsistencies, and taken exception when he posts completely false statements and portrays them as actual facts. But despite his hurt feelings, I don't believe that I have ever attacked him. Nor have I called him any names.
In fact, here is my challenge for Lorenzo: Copy the list of quotes below that you have made towards me, and then right under it please compile a list of quotes of the very worst things that I have said about you, so that we can all compare and see who has been making the attacks.
Don't just make a CLAIM as to what you wnat others to think that I said, but rather use empirical evidence by quoting my actual words.
You won't do it, because it will undermine your accusations and reveal that any personal attacks have been directed at me.
These are only more examples or your lies and distortions
One more thing: the meretricious, treacherous character assassin Dodger Bulldog repeatedly accuses me of being inconsistent...
...the willfully obtuse Dodger Bulldog doesn't understand.
Dodger Bulldog is a liar
Which one is the lunatic?... But I'll repeat my message to you: GET A LIFE. Also: GET A GRIP.
Come to think of it, maybe DB's posts are already being transmitted from a loony bin; I hear mental facilities are quite permissive these days
..which one is the raving lunatic and which is the sane one. Keep in mind that all of his lengthy, raving diatribes are in response to a totally innocuous, 3-line, 4-sentence post of mine
All you seem to be able to do is photograph babes wearing your Dodger shirt, thus marking her as your possession, if only temporarily, like a tomcat spraying.Followed by even one more inconsistency:
Enjoy your pics!
Full Throttle
04-21-08, 16:11
Any of you malcontents want to hang out for a beer or 3 on Wednesday or Thursday?
FT
Julio Frippo
05-06-08, 18:28
After just returning from a good mongering trip tp Managua, I begin to concentrate on my upcoming foray into Guatamala City. Because I find Dodger Bulldogs posts to be credible, I took his advice and booked a low cost fare on Spirit to test the GC waters, so to speak. Having also mongered in most of Western Europe, Eastern Europe including Russia, Peru, Brazil, Argentina, Uraguay, Mexico, Costa Rica and most recently Nicraragua, I will be able to form my own opinion of the GC mongering merits. Of course I will report on my trip which will not take place until August. Thanks to Dodger Bulldog for the PM's I received that contained valuable information.
Dodger Bulldog
05-08-08, 02:26
Hope you have a great time, Julio. I look forward to reading your reports.
I wish I could be there mongering with you!
DB
i recently got back from a trip that took me to guyana, suriname, french guiana, and trinidad. although this wasn't intended to be primarily a mongering trip, i did manage to do some mongering in georgetown, guyana, and posted a lengthy report on the georgetown thread. more importantly, however, this recent trip leaves me with a considerable sense of personal pride and accomplishment, because with having visited the three "guianas," i can now say that i have visited every mainland country and territory in the western hemisphere--north america, central america, and south america--and have mongered in most of them. there are still quite a few caribbean islands to visit, however, before i can say that i have done the entire hemisphere.
all this is by way of explaining why i have been so slow to respond to the latest instance of bloviation from dodger bulldog directed at me; in other words, i had higher priorities. it came as no surprise to see that the [CodeWord113] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord113)-brained dodger bulldog had launched another series of tendentious diatribes; in fact, i was expecting it. and i have no intention of responding in kind. but when distortions, half-truths, and outright lies are directed at me, i believe that i have not only a right but also a responsibility to set the record straight. so let's look at some of his distortions.
....i wonder why lorenzo chose to address just about everything imaginable in his post, except for my correction of his total fabrication that the dollar has weakened in guatemala?....
now let's look at what i actually said:
....prices seem to have gone up slightly in 2 years. then it was $78 for a half hour, $156 for a full hour. this is probably due to the continuing decline of the dollar....
this was in response to another poster's quoting of prices at club platinum and my observation that they had gone up slightly in two years, and presenting the decline of the dollar as a possible explanation. note the word "probably" in the preceding quote. does this sound like the dogmatic pronouncement of someone who is claiming expertise in this area? of course not; it was just presented as one of many possible explanations. the word "probably" implicitly acknowledges the possibility that this explanation is wrong. and it is certainly a leap into fantasy to call this a "total fabrication," as dodger bulldog does; it was simply a hypothesis that may well have been wrong. and if dodger bulldog thought it was wrong, especially in light of the fact that he had expressed a desire to stop the squabbling and be "friends":
....if we ever run across each other's path i will be happy to buy you a beer.
friends again?....
he could have simply expressed his disagreement with me in a polite and gentlemanly manner befitting a "friend," rather than accusing me of "fabrication." but i guess dodger bulldog isn't a big enough person to do this.
....so we are to understand that lorenzo is not an expert or an authority (not even remotely, ha ha), while in the same post he states "i think i can speak with some authority."
everyone got that straight?
forgive me for being slow on the uptake, but i am at a loss to grasp whatever difference he imagines that there is between denying that he is an authority while simultaneously stating that he speaks with authority....
the cerebrally challenged dodger bulldog seems to see a contradiction between my statements that i am not an expert, on the one hand, and that i think i can speak with some authority, on the other. i know that dodger bulldog is intellectually limited, but even he should see that there is no contradiction here. but since he obviously doesn't, let me try to explain:
saying that i speak with "some authority" is hardly a claim of expertise. on the contrary, it indicates a considerably amount of humility on my part. if i had wanted to assert a claim to be an expert, i would have said that i speak with absolute authority, or total authority, or supreme authority, or a phrase similar to that. but no, i used a qualifier and said that i speak with "some" authority, in other words, more authority than your average poster, but quite possibly, or probably, with less authority than many other posters. but i suppose this is far too subtle a concept for a simplistic thinker like dodger bulldog to grasp.
now let's move on to what is probably dodger bulldog's most hilarious statement:
it does destroy the "cred" that he so covets...
roflmao! let's get one thing straight, pal: i don't "covet" mongering "cred;" i've got it. in abundance. more than you'll ever hope to have. well, i'll take that back. if you continue to monger persistently and assiduously for the next 15 or 20 years, you may, if you're lucky, establish "cred" to equal mine. maybe.
let's look at the record.
first, the positive. dodger bulldog posts excellent photos, and most of them are of beautiful chicas. that is far and away his most valuable contribution to this forum. i am even willing to cut him a little slack and forgive him for his egomaniacal habit of having chicas wear his dodger shirt and then photographing them, implicitly stamping them as his possessions. but hey, we all have our idiosyncracies.
that having been said, it must further be said that, at least judging from his posts, dodger bulldog's mongering experience is limited. again judging from his posts, he has mongered in seven countries: guatemala, costa rica, el salvador, colombia, peru, brazil, and the united states. perhaps he has mongered in more countries, but these are the only ones he has mentioned in his posts. to be fair, i have mongered in places that i have never posted on, because the experiences predated my becoming a member of this forum. but my central position is that he is is no position to question my "cred" when his experience is so much more limited than mine, which includes mongering on 6 continents over a 42 year period (and still counting). even limiting the discussion to latin america, i have mongered in three times as many latin american countries as he has, which just reinforces my point.
moreover, if you peruse his posts, you'll find that dodger bulldog's posts, unlike mine, contain very little substantive information leading to the fulfillment of the primary purpose of this forum, namely men exchanging information for the purpose of finding sex with women. instead, dodger bulldog usually presents us with his opinion on something, including three posts on why not having an adam's apple isn't a guarantee that someone who looks like a woman might not actually be a man. i can only speculate....oh, never mind.
the level of dodger bulldog's critical acumen can probably be encapsulated in the following statement:
there is absolutely no comparison: costa rica beats rio hands down....
once again, roflmao. now i suppose anyone is entitled to his opinion, but this is over the top. to be sure, the only people qualified to evaluate this statement are those who have visited both places and mongered in both, and i imagine their number would be rather small, judging by the fact that i have seen very few members posting in both forums. still, i would like to hear from those contributers to this forum who have mongered in both costa rica and rio and ask them, which is the better overall place to visit, and specifically, which is the better place to monger?
finally, on to the most honest statement dodger bulldog has ever made on this forum:
i'm so confused.
yes you are, db, very, very confused. but i am a compassionate guy and will try to help you, indeed to mentor you, when you to display the necessary maturity to let me do this.
lorenzo
Fellow mongers,
I'll be next week in Guatemala just for a night (on my way to Honduras), what will be your reccomendations if you have only one night?
Thanks and Salud!
T
Fellow mongers,
I'll be next week in Guatemala just for a night (on my way to Honduras), what will be your reccomendations if you have only one night?
Thanks and Salud!
T
I had success at Club Platinum, an upscale club with many attractive girls and with rooms to do the deed on site. Avoid Club Elite, a total ripoff joint.
But my experience in Guatemala City is very limited, so don't take just my word for it. I suggest you PM Dodger Bulldog for advice, since he seems to consider himself the expert on GC (and on just about everything else, for that matter).
L
Saw the postings on Platinum and with your note I decide to go and make my night there. Unless Dodger Bulldog with his wisdom enlight me towards a different place.
Thanks for the advice
Salud!
T
Dodger Bulldog
05-27-08, 07:28
Tequila,
The best place might depend on what you are looking for and how much you are willing to spend. There are
tons of reports on this thread to help you sort it out. Just skip over the ones with all the posturing.
Here is a fun summary that I put together:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=512401&postcount=254
This is a very useful compendium Polvo compiled (mostly from my reports):
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=512022&postcount=252
Since that time I discovered Mediterraneo, which would be my first choice for gorgeous spinners. If you don't
find what you are looking for there, I would try in order: Le Club, Platino's, and Caprichos.
These are the higher priced clubs. Others mentioned in the reports usually have some gems at half the price.
But chicas came and go and things change. So please update us with your findings, okay?
DB
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