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Breadman
03-12-14, 19:38
Chat area for the AO section

Breadman
03-17-14, 19:23
Anyone ever hear of this being done or have done so yourself? I'm planning a trip to Asia where bareback is a common occurance and kept running into odd comments from posters about taking certain meds. I was pm'ing a senior poster about my next trip and he told me he take doxy before a trip so that its in his system for any barebacking that will take place. I know getting doxy is next to impossible in Germany without a prescription but in the states you can order pretty much anything over the internet. The deal is you take the doxy right before you depart on your trip and then quit a week after you get back home. I was told its not a common practice but he knows that some of the guys do the same thing. It makes sense to me, its like taking out an insurance plan.

EastGoing
03-17-14, 21:19
It makes sense to me, its like taking out an insurance plan.Ahahahah! Take a talisman! It's cheaper and will give you the same results!

My 2 cents

Varenne
03-28-14, 20:40
Funny story is told on the homepage of King Club in Cologne. Tells how the Teckenfrau had to call two red light scene expert to save the club from girls offering AO:

Here's a google translation:

AM 3/27/2014 Live at RTL2 at 23:10 clock.

Red-experts in use.

German brothels in need.

A new application is waiting for the red light expert Ulla Top Ender and Michael Beretin in Cologne. Once again it is a brothel in distress to rescue. The "Kings Club Cologne" urgently needs the help of the two red light experts, otherwise go here soon the red lights. The special feature of this application: Not operator Peter. 43 calls the two experts to help, but his counter wife Anna. 35

Anna can no longer watch as Peter with his good nature both his, and the existence of all others in the Kings Club further endangers easy.

The main problem of the Kings Club are in fact no lack of suitors, or as enemies of Peter, the main problem are his friends. The gather daily at the bar of the Kings Club to take Peter's hospitality and, above all, his generosity over fee. Beverages, cigarettes and love the service of women like to be taken, but never paid. As Peter, however, has the women who work for him pay anyway daily, prevails in the office of the Kings Clubs gaping void. Peter is about to go under. Counter Anna can no longer watch and asks, without Peter's knowledge, the red light experts for help. Since Anna she also informed in advance about the fact that Peters so-called friends are now gone over to scare the other guests in the Kings Club, so that the women present there are only subject to its-unpaid-available, the tally experts decide the Kings Club with a " double clip "to explore before their first visit. For the first time "Testhure" Sarah and a test-free "undercover" introduced into the club to take both the customer and the provider-side at the club under the microscope. Because-and this is also an information by Anna-some women in the Kings Club have been persuaded of Peter's friends to offer sex without protection. An absolute disgrace from the perspective of red light experts.

And after the use of Testhure and test clients, there is then also no longer any doubt. The problems at the Kings Club are just as barmaid Anna has described it, if not much worse. A lot of hard work will be waiting for the red light expert and a problem, as it has so far not been found in any brothel in need. And how will the owner Peter react when the red light experts appear at once in his brothel? Because he has not even called, but his barmaid.

Tons of potential for conflict and tension are inevitable. Because Peter's "friends" are guaranteed not simply pay their debts to Peter and then renounce its previous privileges. And it remains to clarify the issue of unprotected sex, the offer were some women seem willing. Not to mention, by the outdoor sauna that is often used by guests of the nearby gas station and times to take a look at brothel-typical tasks.

EXCLUSIVE THE REPORT "accompanies the red-expert Ulla Top Ender and Michael Beretin in the Kings Club in Cologne, with its latest commitment to rescue German brothels in need.

Source:

http://www.kings-club-cologne.de/events.html/

Anybody watched the RTL show? What a disgrace when a saunaclub has nothing better to offer than crap stories, AO or not.

EastGoing
04-18-14, 16:14
To try to give life to this thread, I ask a question: why in parties, GBs, movies, etc., men have to provide or make a test on the spot for HIV and sometimes other STDs, and in AO clubs this is not required?

Are in these clubs stored tests of the girls for customers to see them? If yes, why they are not visible, like the photos with the services offered? For privacy?

Maxime
04-20-14, 08:08
To try to give life to this thread, I ask a question: why in parties, GBs, movies, etc, men have to provide or make a test on the spot for HIV and sometimes other STDs, and in AO clubs this is not required?

Are in these clubs stored tests of the girls for customers to see them? If yes, why they are not visible, like the photos with the services offered? For privacy?Most AO clubs are for daredevils only. Few clubs (like CA) have tests of the girls available on demand, but most of them don't care (about your health or that of the girls).

The pre-party tests at many GB parties, are of course good intention, but also not waterproof, so also requires some daredevilling.

Dreams
04-20-14, 11:40
Most AO clubs are for daredevils only. Few clubs (like CA) have tests of the girls available on demand, but most of them don't care (about your health or that of the girls).

The pre-party tests at many GB parties, are of course good intention, but also not waterproof, so also requires some daredevilling.Well. My opinion is that the tests are more to alleviate irrational fears in some punters, rather than really preventing anything.

This has been debated ad nauseam here and elswhere, so I won't expand.

Anyway, whoever plays AO knows that he takes more risks than if not. As well as whoever has sex takes more risks than someone who does not.

SwingerLover
04-21-14, 20:28
To try to give life to this thread, I ask a question: why in parties, GBs, movies, etc., men have to provide or make a test on the spot for HIV and sometimes other STDs, and in AO clubs this is not required?Because they can pocket an extra 20 € at the gangbangs for doing the tests, whereas the AO-clubs want to offer a cheap flatrate and don't want to spoil it by additional cost for tests. Almost no one gives a rats ass about the tests anyway, except for collecting the money. The exceptions (meaning those who do it for health reasons) are the ones that demand a laboratory test or have the on-site test included in the flatrate price or charge only their self-cost of 5 to 6 € for it. Anybody who takes more than that does the tests primarily for the money they can collect. The exception here is Sexy-Susi's husband, who is an actual medical doctor and gives you a written result of the test for the 20 € you pay, just like it would happen at any other doctor's practice.


Well. My opinion is that the tests are more to alleviate irrational fears in some punters, rather than really preventing anything.I totally agree with Dreams' assessment here.

Once more Natascha The Gangbang Queen as the example: She does AO-Gangbangs WORLDWIDE for DECADES by now and is still healthy, agile and horny for cum. I believe that right now she's in Florida, looking for hordes of guys to creampie her. She's healthy as ever, as is "SpermastuteMUC", who got creampied by around 40 guys last SAT in a porn theatre in Munich and on a parking place for free, (Therefore the Bavarian paysex-AO-ban doesn't apply.) like she is regularly doing every few weeks.

Now tell me: Where does the irrational fear come from? Answer: From decades of propaganda from the AIDS-industry.

What does the saying "If you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not zebras!" mean? Right, you think about more common circumstances instead of more rare ones. So why this ridiculous fear of STDs when traveling is way more dangerous? Just go and bang Natascha and be happy!

Bobbyson
05-07-14, 05:10
Hey guys!

Going to be in NRW from May 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 for pure fun! My last trip I went to FKK Dietzenbach and really liked the system there. You saw pics of the girls and what they provided (most AO) and you could take 2 or 3 girls private and it just costed each girl as one of your sessions (so basically 40 per session).

My question. Is there any other FKK style places like this in NRW? I don't want to have to drive all the way to Dietzenbach as I want to spend my vacation in the dusseldorf area as there are way more options! I plan on going to love factory but I'm not sure about the threesome situation?

My last trip to Dietzenbach was amazing. I had two of the hottest girls and one would BBBJ me immediately after barebacking her friends pussy and then she would shove my dick back into the pussy. This was amazing!

Thanks!

Maxime
05-07-14, 18:54
Hey guys!

Going to be in NRW from May 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 for pure fun! My last trip I went to FKK Dietzenbach and really liked the system there. You saw pics of the girls and what they provided (most AO) and you could take 2 or 3 girls private and it just costed each girl as one of your sessions (so basically 40 per session).

My question. Is there any other FKK style places like this in NRW? I don't want to have to drive all the way to Dietzenbach as I want to spend my vacation in the dusseldorf area as there are way more options! I plan on going to love factory but I'm not sure about the threesome situation?

My last trip to Dietzenbach was amazing. I had two of the hottest girls and one would BBBJ me immediately after barebacking her friends pussy and then she would shove my dick back into the pussy. This was amazing!

Thanks!Yep, there are many of these RTCs in NRW (more then in Hessen / Frankfurt area). Some of them are the same owner, so same concept like FKK Dietzenbach.

Most popular are Villa Venus (Duisburg) , Arabella (Bochum) and Alina (Dorsten).

Enjoy!

Bobbyson
05-07-14, 19:04
Yep, there are many of these RTCs in NRW (more then in Hessen / Frankfurt area). Some of them are the same owner, so same concept like FKK Dietzenbach.

Most popular are Villa Venus (Duisburg) , Arabella (Bochum) and Alina (Dorsten).

Enjoy!Thank you sir! Exactly what I was looking for!

Bobbyson
05-07-14, 22:22

EastGoing
05-08-14, 22:38
Mate, I think you have read very little and understood even less, in fact those who normally post in this section didn't bother to answer, I do it just as an "update".

These clubs are called AO for the obvious reason. In Arabella strangely 2 girls work with condom, therefore I don't think they would proceed without, also I don't know why you should want to pay a surcharge to them (even if one is a black stunner) , since all the other ones offer it.

I have been to VV this week, I sessioned with a girl coming from Alina, she said that nearly all girls left the club and only 5 are left.

Websites are not updated, currently VV has the same pay structure of the Grimberg and Arabella: 60 euros entrance with a session, then 30 euros each further session.

Maxime
05-09-14, 07:03
So I went to the website of these three. And it says all inclusive 3x €110. So is it like dietzenbach where you don't pay extras. AO is included if the girl does it? It seems like I've read a lot about girls charging extra for AO.Indeed, ALL services offered by the girl are included, so also AO, A-level, CIF / CIM, etc, as said, IF they offer it.

Most girls of course offer AO, since these are AO clubs.

Another one is Grimberg BTW.

Different concept, but similar services: Club Angelique (Vierssen). Has the most beautiful AO girls around IMHO. Add +30 euro for AO (Std sessions 20 minutes = 30 euro. 30 inutes = 50 euro. 60 minutes = 80 euro). So a bit more expensive, but the girls are much much better in looks.

Max #01
05-10-14, 13:23
Hey guys!

Going to be in NRW from May 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 for pure fun! My last trip I went to FKK Dietzenbach and really liked the system there. You saw pics of the girls and what they provided (most AO) and you could take 2 or 3 girls private and it just costed each girl as one of your sessions (so basically 40 per session).

My question. Is there any other FKK style places like this in NRW? I don't want to have to drive all the way to Dietzenbach as I want to spend my vacation in the dusseldorf area as there are way more options! I plan on going to love factory but I'm not sure about the threesome situation?

My last trip to Dietzenbach was amazing. I had two of the hottest girls and one would BBBJ me immediately after barebacking her friends pussy and then she would shove my dick back into the pussy. This was amazing!

Thanks!You can try Dolce Vita Raubach, which isn't too far from the Dusseldorf area. I used to go there on my trips to Frankfurt until I discovered Dietzenbach. Overall, I would rank the two clubs about equallly.

Bobbyson
05-11-14, 02:06
Mate, I think you have read very little and understood even less, in fact those who normally post in this section didn't bother to answer, I do it just as an "update".

I have been to VV this week, I sessioned with a girl coming from Alina, she said that nearly all girls left the club and only 5 are left.It's obvious to me "mate" that you have read very little and understand even less. Here's clue. Girls are always coming and going from these clubs. That's not new news.

I'm not new to this, and my question was fair. There are a lot of different viens to mongering in Germany. There is Red light districts, partytreffs, pauschal clubs, FKK's, sex party's, swinger clubs gangbangs etc. Etc, etc. You said yourself that "websites aren't updated" and I in fact read plenty on these clubs. Sorry I bothered you with my question. And it seems in fact someone did respectfully reply. Thank you.

I went to VV. There was 15 girls and it was the exact same set up as Dietzenbach. Report to come.

EastGoing
05-12-14, 17:56
My question. Is there any other FKK style places like this in NRW?You mean that someone reading the AO section here can possibly ask this question, talking about Dietzenbach?
Even if you read only Dietzenbach thread you may find mention of NRW clubs.

Not to criticize you, but VV pay structure currently, as I posted, seems to be different from Dietzenbach's.

Finally, you posted you would be in NRW 9-14 of may, and you posted being in VV on the 5th. It seems to me that you are confused even about yourself, LOL!

P. S.
It's ok man, don't take things too seriously, I even avoided telling you the horrible "RTFF" ;-)
Looking forward to reading your contributions. I'll soon post about my visits, tastes are tastes but I can tell you in advance that I disagree about the abundance of fuckable girls in VV last week, I had one and only because it was included in the compulsory entrance fee

EastGoing
06-04-14, 14:41
Few clubs (like CA) have tests of the girls available on demand, but most of them don't care (about your health or that of the girls)I wasn't sure about posting this, but I thought it wouldn't make any difference: I recently witnessed a girl entering an AO club asking for the possibility to work. I was by the counter, so I heard nearly all the interview, less than a minute:
"you make anal?", "no", "can you take sperm in mouth?", "yes".
I might have lost a couple of words during the translations girls-TF, so anything might have been said, but not much more was asked. I don't think she had any kind of papers or tests, at least I didn't see any, I would say it was her first day of work in the business. She looked quite shy and very lost, funnily trying to speak little unneeded english, even to her compatriots, but no german at all. Then a girl accompanied her to get "changed", they came back and she ended up instantly in the arms of an old fat lad, they started kissing and the adventure began. I watched for a couple of seconds and it seemed she could do it, maybe her look misled me. I left for zimmer and couldn't follow the matter. She would do AO?

For the record, the girl I zimmered had started working only 2 weeks before, she said she had some stomachache, I asked "mestruatie?". She smiled and said "no". We changed 3 positions, nothing to declare. When I finished and pulled out my dick, maybe because of dim lights, I didn't notice anything. When she gave me the papers to clean and dry, fucking light red stains appeared on them. I went to shower and left hardly greeting...

NoGermaphobe
07-06-14, 20:56
So it looks at though some chick named Jordan Night is posting on Xhamster that she provides AO and is available at the P-Club.

Here is a video of someone fucking her AO and coming in her pussy. You can see the P-Club poster on the wall, so it appears it is coming from inside the club. The video also ends with contact information and an email address for the P-Club, which appears to have been previously called Grenz FKK.

https://xhamster.com/movies/3245695/jordan_night_shameless_*****_fucks_without_condom_at_p_club.html

There is also a selfie of her in her Xhamster profile that appears to validate that it is indeed her.

Visiting the website of the P-Club, I didn't see any mention of AO being available.

http://en.the-pclub.de/

Her website just redirects to a CAM page, so nothing interesting there. Wonder if she is really available for AO? I'd fuck her, even though I don't like her fake tits.

Looks like it might be expensive there though. Possibly and entrance fee and then have to negotiate with the lady directly.

Gggfan
07-18-14, 13:51
Hi all,

Should be on AO parties (gang bangs preferred) hunt from the 18th (or 16th) to the 22nd of August.

Right now it is too early to plan anything but if you hear of anything good happening or plan to go in a party, drop me a pm.

GGGfan.

P.S.: Report on the gb01 party in Morfelden the 4th of July still under process.

ThomasNorway
07-18-14, 17:52
Hi all,

Should be on AO parties (gang bangs preferred) hunt from the 18th (or 16th) to the 22nd of August.

I'm headed for Germany, starting my tour attending the Gb01 event in Hamburg on the 11th. I've also signed up for the Spermagames event in Wulfrath on the 16th. Still on the fence with regards to the remaining days, but will definitely be looking for trouble! I'm getting around by way of motorcycle, but will happily meet up, if nothing else you could consider Wulfrath on the 16th. ?

Gggfan
07-18-14, 23:14
I'm headed for Germany, starting my tour attending the Gb01 event in Hamburg on the 11th. I've also signed up for the Spermagames event in Wulfrath on the 16th. Still on the fence with regards to the remaining days, but will definitely be looking for trouble! I'm getting around by way of motorcycle, but will happily meet up, if nothing else you could consider Wulfrath on the 16th. ?Hi ThomasNorway,

Considering that:
- the 16th is a bit early for my schedule.
- the lineup at Spermagames the 16th is not as strong as it could (maybe I am wrong. Just need to be convinced LOL).
- it is way up north of my route.
It seems that we won't meet on this occasions, but I am happy to know that you are also looking for some hot dates around the same time.

Discussion to be continued in PM as I would not like to bother the other members (hey, no worry, I will announce where I will head and report(s) be written afterword and published on ISG as usual).

SwingerLover
07-20-14, 22:31
I'm headed for Germany, starting my tour attending the Gb01 event in Hamburg on the 11th. Note that the black girls Stella and Missy are not AO at all 4 GB01-events during that week! So that will leave you with Schokobebe Vicky and Chanie for AO in Stuhr, Hamburg and theüren and with AO-Coco as a 3rd AO woman in Mörfelden. http://gb01.tv/events.php.

And what's with the GGG-film event hosted by GB01 in Stuhr on August 23rd? It's for free, but if you want to fuck, you'll have to bring tests with you that will cost you over 80 €.


Should be on AO parties (gang bangs preferred) hunt from the 18th (or 16th) to the 22nd of August.For August 18th, there is a Spermabang listed on Sexy-Susi's website for Hattingen, I guess that means that she will do an AO-Gangbang there with Melanie Moon. http://www.sexy-susi.info/Seite5n.php.

No sign of that on the Spermabang-site yet, but they list an event for August 21st in Karlsruhe: http://spermabang.com/events.html.

EastGoing
08-17-14, 20:03
i try to give life to this thread by making a bit of outing about my personal experience over ao. it's not going to be about the already ad nauseam debated health issues, but about the mental approach and condition.

i've always been a sex addicted, living in places where mongering (and even getting normal girlfriends) is difficult due to normal lack of beauties, bad or terrible and expensive services (specially if compared to german ao clubs), but i had the freedom to travel anywhere (when not having a girlfriend) and to change continuously prostitutes, both at home and abroad.

let's say that i was free to be unsatisfied, lol!

since starting serial aoing in germany, i became a prisoner. i tried to quit it for some 4 months last winter, mongering elsewhere, but i couldn't help going back. i increased the number and frequency of my trips, currently i have booked quite a few flights until march 2015! furthermore, i started barebacking sws at home since this spring.

my problem is that i feel like a prisoner, because:

- i can't travel anywhere else, because nowhere else it is so easy to get ao, specially at those prices, without having to make searches or negotiations. i don't consider countries out of europe due to distance and i can't imagine a touristic trip where sex is not the main course.

- i can't change clubs, because i would waste time and money in a place where i must make covered sex. i already feel little and often don't unload even without condoms. unfortunately, pharmaceutical companies created medicines to delay orgasm, not to speed it up.
i know i could get ao in other clubs, and with girls i would find more attractive, but a single session in the overall would cost me maybe 6-7 times as much: counting, for instance, the entrance of an oase, the cost of a session and the surcharge, i may end up with something like 70+50+50 or 100, risking anyway a shark, cold fish, etc. this if i could easily find a girl willing to do it without even knowing me, since i know by personal experience that some girls react quite badly when you ask such a thing, specially if they haven't known you previously.
i suffer from noticing that, as far as i can guess in this moment, if i flew back to nrw tomorrow, i would be "forced" to go with raissa in arabella, angie and lily in grimberg, elena in venus, the latter basically for the teenager's kissing. actually, none of them physically is to my liking, but i can't find better in those 3 clubs, unless some new girls join, and unfortunately when there is a new one worth, she doesn't last long for one reason or another.
with recent rules putting obstacles to repetitions, it's even harder for me now. that's why i was so happy about discovering verena, where i have a few valid options, nothing extraordinary, and i don't have to struggle so much when having to choose, and not among the "less worse girls".

- last thing i want on earth is a girlfriend, even if of course a female company can be a source of pleasure, i don't want anymore any hassle of any kind: feelings, money, bonds, etc. , but since becoming a serial aoer i abandoned even the thought of joking with a normal girl, asking her out, etc. , for two reasons: one is that in the past, having a girlfriend meant having unprotected intercourses, because ao was out of my life, now i can have it everyday; the second one is that i would always be afraid of passing to an innocent person some disease i may have caught unknowingly. even with prostitutes where i live i have this concern: i didn't bb a couple of them who might have let me have it because i had the reasonable doubt that they could bb only with me, while the ones i've gone with openly declare and are reknown for doing it with some customers.
so, even at home, i'm a prisoner, and much more than abroad, and with a much worse service: girls who would fit, in terms of look, the average specimen of an ao club, but they are perfect corpses not smiling, not hugging, not kissing, not changing positions, not helping you at all in case of "weakness", actually abandoning you (when not raging), etc.
some girls i started with have left, now only 5-6 openly doing it, and 3 of them refuse me after i went with another one! the only other thing they have in common with arabella girls, lol! anyway, i'm going to use pills when aoing at home to prevent my dick from dieing inside these refrigerators! i find it humiliating, specially thinking that it is ao, but i don't want to take chances anymore with these craps.
and i can't go with other girls, whether new or more beautiful, also for economical and mathematical reasons: i can fuck bb in car for 40-50 euros and at home for 50-70, how could i pay as much, when not more (quite easy to be asked), to use a condom? some do bb, but shoot 150-200!

let's say that, if before i was free to be unsatisfied, now i'm prisoner of my insatisfaction, lol!

i know many fellow punters go to normal and to ao clubs, how can you switch?

Maxime
08-18-14, 19:37
Thanks for the honest sharing of your thoughts. Must be difficult to feel like an AO prisoner.

Many other mongers here are also prisoners, maybe not of AO, but of Sauna / FKK clubs in general, which might be as bad.

When I feel like I can not have a normal social life anymore, I try to stop clubbing for a few weeks. If this works, I can "safely" continu my clubbing again, at least I think LOL.

Also I try not to visit clubs multiple times a week, as many punters seem to do, and prevent visiting multiple clubs in a row (day after day). Also having a normal girlfriend so now and then helps me to feel not a prisoner.

Try also to plan a holiday far away from any (AO) club sometime. I did for a few weeks, and it is out of your system before you know it.

BTW, do you mean Club Verona in Recklinghausen, or FKK Verena in Dortmund? Probably the latter, since the RTC / AO character of the club, but just asking.

EastGoing
08-21-14, 18:16
Thanks for your reply, Maxime.

Strangely, I got more in pms than in open forum. Anyway for me it is not so easy.

I assume you live in Germany, I would get crazy if I lived there, or maybe not, I'm getting crazy because I'm staying away.

Even now that I got to the maximum physically possible, AO, at home, but with frozen corpses, I'm unhappy. I think of my previous and future trips all the time, sometimes I dream about and wake up to delusion.

3 nights ago a new SW arrived and would have come home and BB for 50 euros, she said it was her first time to sell herself. 30 years old, pretty, mother of 2, smiling, cheerful, probably she wouldn't be a corpse, probably I wouldn't need to disturb and wake her up by pulling out my dick to spit on our reproductive organs every 2-3 minutes, but I couldn't risk to give her something I might have caught unknowingly, if I get the info that she goes BB also with other customers then I'll take her.

Ok, let's leave this personal topic of mine, it's stuff for psychiatrists. And let's leave this thread to its state of abandon.

P.S. The club was Verena in Dortmund.

Member #4359
08-26-14, 22:11
At Eastgoing,

Thanks also for your thoughts; I live in the USA, the official sex prison of the free world. So on the rare occasions I can come to Germany I wear myself out at AO clubs. Currently Dolce Vita Raubach is my favorite; I've always been treated wonderfully there. I am also fond of the old LaLuna & Club Angelique, now reconstituted as the new LaLuna, so I hear.

I long ago came to terms with my desires and have no guilt or regrets. As a doctor I'm aware of the risks of AO sex, but frankly it doesn't worry me. There is a lot of hype and craziness over HIV, of which the risk to a heterosexual male is close to zero.

Myrrh
08-27-14, 10:30
I have just got back from a visit to the 5 girl GB01 gangbang on Monday. I hope to be able to post a detailed report.

I am also contemplating a visit to the 'special anal / sandwich 8-10 girls' event at Spermagames tomorrow, but still not decided.

They have given details of only 7 of the girls so far. Two it appears will be part of the support act and will be doing other 'specialities' (not specified) but are not really part of the main event. They are Linda Lush (of whom I have heard good things) and Sarah (don't know if this Sarah Ann or Sarah May who are mentioned elsewhere on the website or some other Sarah).

But it seems that the 5 who will be doing the anal /'Doppelgngbanger' performance are all seasoned veterans.

Schokobebe: Early 40's?

Rinata: 46

Gundula: Tellingly no longer allows her age to be published on line.

Merinda: Age unknown.

Dark Mara: Or should that be 'Dark ages' Mara. I saw her once in a spermagames event and even though it was in a dimly lit room the pronounced wrinkles on her face stood out like deep, mountain ridges.

I tend to get wildly excited about sticking my knob into firm, rubbery young flesh but it seems that the only women who tend to indulge in these specialist anal / double penetration events nowadays are those whose holes as a result of old age have become so loose and pliable now.

Wanking
08-27-14, 17:53
I tend to get wildly excited about sticking my knob into firm, rubbery young flesh but it seems that the only women who tend to indulge in these specialist anal / double penetration events nowadays are those whose holes as a result of old age have become so loose and pliable now.Welcome back.

Maxime
08-27-14, 21:09
I have just got back from a visit to the 5 girl GB01 gangbang on Monday. I hope to be able to post a detailed report.

I am also contemplating a visit to the 'special anal / sandwich 8-10 girls' event at Spermagames tomorrow, but still not decided.

They have given details of only 7 of the girls so far. Two it appears will be part of the support act and will be doing other 'specialities' (not specified) but are not really part of the main event. They are Linda Lush (of whom I have heard good things) and Sarah (don't know if this Sarah Ann or Sarah May who are mentioned elsewhere on the website or some other Sarah).
Please report about the event on Monday in Hannover. Since Chanie (super!) was replaced by Jamie Jadon (lame. And even non-AO these days) not worth the trip anymore for me. Also Linda Fay safe only (also BJ?) and so only Ashlee Cox (super) and maybe Nelly would be worhtwile.

Linda Lush is also great girl, like Gundula is really giving all she hot and very enthousiastic. Rest of the line up not thrilling for me tomorrow at SG.

EastGoing
08-30-14, 01:24
I live in the USA, the official sex prison of the free world.
USA are simply too far from the Balkans ;-)

Myrrh, you are still alive! And kicking, I mean, fucking! Is that you or your ghost? Now we will have to wait another year for your post? ;-)

SwingerLover
08-31-14, 11:16
it seems that the only women who tend to indulge in these specialist anal / double penetration events nowadays are those whose holes as a result of old age have become so loose and pliable now.Sorry, man, but what are you complaining about? It was clearly stated on the website WHO was supposed to be there that day. If the women are not your taste, then don't go there. Your complaint sounds like from a guy who is standing in front of a bakery, complaining about the unavailability of T-bone steaks.

Anyway, I was there and it was a good party. Merinda was missing due to illness, Linda Lush was missing because some idiot ripped apart the inside of her pussy two days earlier at the party in Wülfrath with his sharp fingernails. (Why do some guys have to finger the women at a gangbang?) The two missing girls were replaced by Nadja, and there was also a private AO-Swinger-MILF there (not Myrrh-compatible either) so the number of women was still seven. Close to 40 guys had registered, at least 70 showed up. So the organizers were a little bit in a tight spot and had to bring in additional food and beverages. Too late to get more girls though. Still, everything went down pretty smoothly and I had a good time. Too bad that I wasn't in as good a shape as on other occasions; I could have gotten more out of that party if I would have physically been able to. If I'll find the time, I'll write a report in the SG-thread. (Schokobebe Vicky, Rinata, Gundula, Dark Mara and Sarah Ann were there as advertised.).

Millenia
09-16-14, 22:49
Making my annual pilgrimage to AO land. Hope to go to four parties next week. Will be posting on other threads with some questions.

Member #4309
09-17-14, 15:17
Hello,

I am planning to be there for the charity event. Any one interested in meeting up PM.

Hamburg has other interesting things too. Might even sample some non AO honies in the city.

// Eric.

JustFun041
09-23-14, 23:50
Visiting from Canada October 22-26 and looking for AO fun. Swinging, GB, one on one. Whatever I can get.

Could really use some international help.

Cheers you lucky bastards!

SwingerLover
09-24-14, 19:26
You picked the wrong region to look for AO. Because of some stupid local Bavarian rule, AO is not allowed in Bavaria, not even BBBJ. The rule applies to prostitution only of course, so if you find a private woman at a Swingerclub or join a video shooting, then you are in luck. Otherwise it will be covered only.

Ito038
09-28-14, 04:46
Hi guys,

As I research to make my Euro trip memorable, AO and Gangbang parties come as an unexplored territories to me. It does somehow appear more safe as they took blood test before the event compare to the AO flat rate club where everybody can just come in. To be honest, it s kind of scary to me LOL.

I am wondering that most the parties site are written in German so does it mean they are trying to limit foreigners (google translate doesn't work on some sites)? Never mind German language but I am an Asian with small stature 1 m6 but with athletic build, will it be any problem for me?

Thanks

Leifeide
09-30-14, 09:53
Hi guys,

As I research to make my Euro trip memorable, AO and Gangbang parties come as an unexplored territories to me. It does somehow appear more safe as they took blood test before the event compare to the AO flat rate club where everybody can just come in. To be honest, it s kind of scary to me LOL.

I am wondering that most the parties site are written in German so does it mean they are trying to limit foreigners (google translate doesn't work on some sites)? Never mind German language but I am an Asian with small stature 1 m6 but with athletic build, will it be any problem for me?

ThanksI have attended to dozens, not to say hundreds of parties in Germany and can only say it like this: there is usually a very friendly and relaxed atmosphere. People are serious and polite if you are the same. Most people also speak English, so you will doubtfully experience any problems at all. So go there and have some safe fun.

Mambomike
09-30-14, 11:02
They are German and speak German. As an English speaker, I had no problems, but I did learn enough German to ask whether I could cum inside her pussy.

As for your stature issue, don't try out for professional basketball or try fucking a tall girl in heels while standing up.


Hi guys,

I ondering that most the parties site are written in German so does it mean they are trying to limit foreigners (google translate doesn't work on some sites)? Never mind German language but I am an Asian with small stature 1 m6 but with athletic build, will it be any problem for me?

Thanks

Dreams
09-30-14, 15:03
I may have to go to Wuppertal. I feel a bit lazy to google map every club, so perhaps one of you could just let me know which AO flat rates clubs are close by? I will probably get a car. I guess most of the NRW AO clubs are not far, but how far?

Thanks

Derschotte
10-15-14, 00:37
Hey,

The wife is heading back to the UK for a few weeks on Sunday so I'm hoping to enjoy everything the near area has to offer. Have done the Bornheim AO parties twice and really got a taste for it, however would feel more relaxed in intervals with an English speaking buddy (preferably a smoker and into the occasional double team).

Anyone up for it?

Mrknowitall
10-15-14, 14:01
Hi guys,
It does somehow appear more safe as they took blood test before the event compare to the AO flat rate club where everybody can just come in. To be honest, it s kind of scary to me LOL.
ThanksI won't go to any AO party that does not test beforehand. I did that once (and only once) in Krefeld and lets just say it did not turn out OK. OUCH!

SpremaGames tests before hand, and so far everything has been clean.

SwingerLover
10-16-14, 13:46
I won't go to any AO party that does not test beforehand.


Have done the Bornheim AO parties twice and really got a taste for it, Next one is on MON 27th from 16-22:00 and they do tests on-site. Last Monday, there were at least 6 guys there who spoke English. Party was good, I'll definitely go back there, propably again on MON 27th.

Derschotte
10-16-14, 15:18
Next one is on MON 27th from 16-22:00 and they do tests on-site. Last Monday, there were at least 6 guys there who spoke English. Party was good, I'll definitely go back there, propably again on MON 27th.Yeh I like the fact they test and love Jenny's (that's the ginger one right) pussy! Fancy meeting up beforehand? How do you normally get there?

XXL
10-16-14, 17:28
It seems the new German law on prostitution will impose a ban on gangbangs, AO and flat-rate parties.

SwingerLover
10-17-14, 08:39
yeh i like the fact they test and love jenny's (that's the ginger one right) pussy! fancy meeting up beforehand? how do you normally get there?yes, i can imagine that you like jenny. unfortunately she's not as active as the others. nevertheless, i had the best fuck at last monday's party with her, whereas lily was the overall best performer. and did a lot of rep002 games in the shower again. yummy!

i get there by car and don't know anything else in this town, so meeting up beforehand is difficult, unless you want to meet up in the parking lot before entering the building.


it seems the new german law on prostitution will impose a ban on gangbangs, ao and flat-rate parties.i've already written about that in the gb01 thread (although it would have been better to write about it here).

there will be no ban on gangbangs, only on [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123)-gangbangs, which aren't happening in the prostitution business in germany anyway; at least i see no such thing advertised in germany. except maybe for porn movie shootings, to which the "ban" doesn't apply, since movie shooting is no prostitution.

there will be no ban on ao either, the only thing they are thinking about is prohibiting ao being advertised. which is stupid, since there is no foundation for something like that. otherwise they would ban ao altogether, which they know they can't do. and much less enforce it.

the flatrate parties might become a little difficult to hold, but the "corner stones" of the "draft law" for the prostschg doesn't specify "flatrate parties", only "flatrate brothels" (and [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123)-gangbang parties). so according to the letter of the draft law, there will be only a problem for pauschalclubs where guys pay a flatrate and go behind closed doors with a woman. the term "flatrate brothel" does not cover public action group sex parties and gangbangs.

after all, this projected "law" is supposed to strengthen the women's right to sexual self-determination, this would mean that women can decide for themselves which services they offer and in what way. prohibiting flatrate offers, ao, ao-ads and gangbangs (even [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) gangbangs!) if the woman wants to do it out of her own free will would be a violation of the underlying spirit of this law. that's what makes most of the "draft law" so ridiculous, makes it unenforceable (if the women stand their ground) and is imo the reason why nothing will actually happen. (the only thing that might happen is that "women's self-determination" might get rid of the "condom-duty" in bavaria and saarland, should any woman actually challenge those rules in a court of law.).

here's the text for the "corner stones" of the "draft law" to the prostschg: https://researchprojectgermany.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/eckpunkte-prostituiertenschutzgesetz.pdf.

and speaking of bavarian and saarlandish nonsense, here are the links to the by-laws regarding the bullshit condom-duties:

http://www.gesetze-bayern.de/jportal/portal/page/bsbayprod.psml?showdoccase=1&st=lr&doc.id=jlr-hygvbyrahmen&doc.part=x&doc.origin=bs

http://www.amtsblatt.saarland.de/jportal/portal/t/50c/page/bsverkslprod.psml?doc.hl=1&doc.id=vb-sl-abli2014145-g&documentnumber=14&numberofresults=23&showdoccase=1&doc.part=d&paramfromhl=true#focuspoint.

check § 6 of the bavarian hygiene by-law and § 6 on page 149 of the "amtsblatt des saarlandes".

i can't find any specification of a "territorial validity" or "validity area" or "territorial extension" or "area of applicability" or however you want to translate "areäumlicher geltungsbereich" in both by-laws, (there's only a personal scope and a factual scope of application specified.) which invalidates both by-laws altogether. i wonder if anybody has ever used this argumentation to challenge those "hygieneverordnungen".

the saarlandish by-law regarding hygiene in medical facilities looks different, although the personal scope is missing here (but that doesn't concern me for our purposes here on this forum): http://www.saarland.de/dokumente/res_gesundheit/amtsblatt_des_saarlandes_medhygvo.pdf.

then there's this interesting article here, regarding the "condum-duty" in the saarland: http://www.sol.de/titelseite/topnews/kondompflicht-bordellen-kontrolle-ordnungsamt-saarbruecken-kondompflicht-soll-mit-hinweisschildern-geregelt-werden;art26205, 4333722.

what a laugh! control of the "condom-duty" is limited to checking if there are signs displayed properly in the facilities where paysex is offered! that's it! maybe they'll even check if condoms are provided, but obviously no one checks if condoms are actually used. and regarding street prostitution, there aren't even any buildings where you could hang a sign, so they get off scot-free from any controls. again: what a laugh! are you beginning to understand why i still think nothing will happen due to the planned prostschg? in any event, violations will just be a misdemeanor anyway, so there's nothing to worry about: http://www.buzer.de/s1.htm?a=&g=egowig&kurz=owig&ag=5827.

and since i started this report with a remark about the party in bornheim: to private parties like that, as well as to swingerclubs and movie shootings, the prostschg will not apply anyway. and if bureaucrats should run amok, see above. and here: http://dejure.org/gesetze/bgb/839.html http://dejure.org/gesetze/bgb/823.html.

the latter two §§ would apply (for example) if the party poopers from the fungirls raid last saturday should not have had a valid warrant.

so enough of this legal stuff now, and don't worry too much about any bans regarding mongering. the "enforcement" of the "condom-duty" in the saarland is a good example about how things will unfold. unless the women and organizers play along obediently and let their rights get trampled upon by the bureaucrats without resistance, which is the only thing that i would really be afraid of.

Derschotte
10-17-14, 12:05
Yes, I can imagine that you like Jenny. Unfortunately she's not as active as the others. Nevertheless, I had the best fuck at last Monday's party with her, whereas lily was the overall best performer. And did a lot of [CodeWord103] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord103) games in the shower again. Yummy!

I get there by car and don't know anything else in this town, so meeting up beforehand is difficult, unless you want to meet up in the parking lot before entering the building.Don't get me wrong, Lily is also fantastic, particularly in the way she begs for cum and [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140). Last time I was there she squeezed 3 loads out of me with her pussy and the fact that she pulls you deep and grinds as you cum and she shouts for 'sperma! ' mid a big turn on. There's just something about Jenny, particularly her pussy, that does it for me. Last visit I fucked her in the bar in the corner while everyone else was in the lounge or box room and she held me close while I powered through two creampie a without pulling out. Disappointing she's not more active but I find she's worth the wait.

Don't need to meet up in the parking lot if it's too much hassle. I'm 6'3 and have a short beard, shouldn't be difficult to spot.

Thinking about doing the theürenn shooting on 24th too but may have to miss it.

EastGoing
10-17-14, 16:14
My Lord SL.

Thanks for reassuring me and the community about our precious clubs and hobbies. Recently I have come to Germany wondering if those could be my last times, I even stopped booking for next year. Knowing the government was supposed to discuss the matter in October, made me think that my next week could be the last, if not already too late. The fact of getting a response from a german guy, even closely following what goes on, makes me feel better.

JustFun041
10-21-14, 01:19
You picked the wrong region to look for AO. Because of some stupid local Bavarian rule, AO is not allowed in Bavaria, not even BBBJ. The rule applies to prostitution only of course, so if you find a private woman at a Swingerclub or join a video shooting, then you are in luck. Otherwise it will be covered only.OK. That sounds fine. A video shoot or GB would be the ultimate as they are still on the bucket list. Any advice on Munich / Munchen and Ulm as those will be places I stay?

JustFun041
10-21-14, 01:20
They are German and speak German. As an English speaker, I had no problems, but I did learn enough German to ask whether I could cum inside her pussy.

As for your stature issue, don't try out for professional basketball or try fucking a tall girl in heels while standing up.LOL- so how do you say it?

SwingerLover
10-21-14, 18:37
OK. That sounds fine. A video shoot or GB would be the ultimate as they are still on the bucket list. Any advice on Munich / Munchen and Ulm as those will be places I stay?Gangbangs are also covered-only in Bavaria, as long as they're commercial and therefore considered "prostitution".

But since you are staying in Ulm as well, (which is NOT Bavaria anymore, but Baden-Württemberg) your options are better. The new Spermagames location in Söhnstetten (near Heidenheim) is only 40 km away from Ulm. www.spermagames.com.

The other Spermagames locations are not that far away either, especially the new one in Stuttgart. For other options in BaWü (and even in Bavaria) have a look at my September-AO-map (as well as previous maps linked in the Bareback AO Calendar thread): http://goo.gl/maps/uMuNq.

So for 22nd to 26th of October, there are 2 Spermagames events close to you, the one in Stuttgart tomorrow and the one in Söhnstetten on Thursday. Or you could do SG Stuttgart tomorrow and then Melanie Monn's COVERED Spermabang in Nuremberg on THU 23rd: http://melaniemoon.net/Seite1001/Events_amp;_Termine
No info on FRI to SUN, since I stopped doing the maps, I'm not that well informed about AO-partys this far south anymore. But this couple in Fürth is usually looking for guys for small AO-Gangbangs at their home: www.eronity.com/profil.php?n=Paar1107

Escort4Us
10-26-14, 06:23
I don't get business in Germany for work often, but I am in mid-November.

I'm very comfy with myself physically, my wife and I (she's way better lookin' than me.) do swing, and love it.

But, I'm 6'1, and 285 large US pounds. It's less than has been, but. I wear it well I'm told.

Any issues here? I have few if any issues with individual ladies here in the US, or in a club where we're with more friends that we know than not. This would be a first venture. On my own, to a different place. I do not EXPECT any cultural issues, or with the ladies. But. I wanted to ask.

Thanks for your replies.

-J.

Vito Corleone
10-26-14, 21:59
I don't get business in Germany for work often, but I am in mid-November.

I'm very comfy with myself physically, my wife and I (she's way better lookin' than me.) do swing, and love it.

But, I'm 6'1, and 285 large US pounds. It's less than has been, but. I wear it well I'm told.

Any issues here? I have few if any issues with individual ladies here in the US, or in a club where we're with more friends that we know than not. This would be a first venture. On my own, to a different place. I do not EXPECT any cultural issues, or with the ladies. But. I wanted to ask.

Thanks for your replies.

JDon't worry dude, most of the men are also overweight. What might surprise you is some of these women in the AO places are also over weight or worse!

Wanking
10-27-14, 01:04
I do not EXPECT any cultural issues, or with the ladies. But. I wanted to ask.Language barrier. Most AO women don't speak much or any English.

Escort4Us
10-27-14, 01:59
Language barrier. Most AO women don't speak much or any English.I can work with flash cards. .

Neurosynth
11-05-14, 23:08
So do some ads hint at AO without being explicit. For example, on a brothel site where each girl has a page most give a long list of activities. One, however, simply says "Service von A-Z. " or service from A to Z. Am I over interpreting the use of A-Z to perhaps imply AO?

http://www.6relax.de/club_girls_detail/name/haus_30/girl/lara/region/grossraum-bonn

Another says "Umfangreicher Service auf Anfrage" which I think means something like "comprehensive service on request. ".

http://www.6relax.de/club_girls_detail/name/haus_30/girl/denissa/region/grossraum-bonn

SwingerLover
11-06-14, 14:02
Am I over interpreting the use of A-Z to perhaps imply AO?
Another says "Umfangreicher Service auf Anfrage" which I think means something like "comprehensive service on request. ".Hard to tell. Depends on the woman. There is nothing more misused in ads than the term "tabulos", so who knows what "A-Z" includes (or doesn't include)? Back then at Eva-Freundin in MG, they had advertised "intercourse with protection only" for every single woman on their homepage, and everybody except Trixi was still doing AO. So you can't go by what's written in the ads. Better call and ask! That's not to say that there will be any guarantees there.

Just another question in a similar regard: Does anybody know if Salma de Nora's latest gangbangs were AO? http://www.salmadenora.de/meine-geilen-parties/705/.

I'm a bit puzzled by the 115 € price for the parties outside Bavaria, whereas the one in Nuremberg costs only 100 €. Looks like 15 € extra for a test to me, but there's nothing mentioned about AO or a test.

Oh, and I would translate "Umfangreicher Service auf Anfrage" as "extensive service on inquiry / price on application".

Neurosynth
11-06-14, 19:47
OK, and thanks for the feedback. Sometimes there are standard euphemisms or idiomatic expressions, and I thought A-Z might be one of those. But apparently it isn't.

RedWolf
11-06-14, 22:04
Hard to tell. Depends on the woman. There is nothing more misused in ads than the term "tabulos", so who knows what "A-Z" includes (or doesn't include)? Back then at Eva-Freundin in MG, they had advertised "intercourse with protection only" for every single woman on their homepage, and everybody except Trixi was still doing AO. So you can't go by what's written in the ads. Better call and ask! That's not to say that there will be any guarantees there.

Just another question in a similar regard: Does anybody know if Salma de Nora's latest gangbangs were AO? http://www.salmadenora.de/meine-geilen-parties/705/.

I'm a bit puzzled by the 115 price for the parties outside Bavaria, whereas the one in Nuremberg costs only 100 . Looks like 15 extra for a test to me, but there's nothing mentioned about AO or a test.

Oh, and I would translate "Umfangreicher Service auf Anfrage" as "extensive service on inquiry / price on application".I was not at these events but I agree with your interpretation. Same girls. Same 1 PM-7 PM time frame. Everything is the same except that it is 15 cheaper in Bavaria. Could be that they didn't want to advertise AO? Or maybe they know that the right guys will figure it out?

SwingerLover
11-07-14, 11:22
Could be that they didn't want to advertise AO? Or maybe they know that the right guys will figure it out?Could be. That was the reason for my question. In addition: If you split the "115" into 1 and 15 and look for the 1st and 15th letter of the alphabet, it gets you "AO". And I don't recall anybody else ever asking for 115 for a gangbang.

EastGoing
11-07-14, 15:31
If you split the "115" into 1 and 15 and look for the 1st and 15th letter of the alphabet, it gets you "AO".Fantastic, extraordinary, immense. I can't find the words, I'm speechless. Chapeau!

Wanking
11-08-14, 16:53
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2826320/Prostitutes-sordid-claims-group-sex-sessions-board-AC-DC-drummer-Phil-Rudd-s-boat-hates-people-playing-pet-dog.html?ito=social-facebook

Dreams
11-08-14, 21:22
Fantastic, extraordinary, immense. I can't find the words, I'm speechless. Chapeau!SW used to be called Sherlock Holmes in his previous life. Hat off indeed!

Neurosynth
11-09-14, 22:35
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2826320/Prostitutes-sordid-claims-group-sex-sessions-board-AC-DC-drummer-Phil-Rudd-s-boat-hates-people-playing-pet-dog.html?ito=social-facebookWanking, side question, do you know why when I try to post a URL it gets auto-censored? You are obviously able to do it. Thanks!

SwingerLover
11-10-14, 12:52
Wanking, side question, do you know why when I try to post a URL it gets auto-censored? You are obviously able to do it. Thanks!The forum's new spelling mis-correcting system sucks even more than the old one did! Whenever there's an umlaut or a "%" or a "#" or any other special symbol used in an URL, then the forum cuts the URL off right at this point. That's also the reason why the German threads containing umlauts (ä, ö, ü; as in Düsseldorf, Mönchengladbach, Osnabrück) don't work properly if you just click on them.

For posting URLs correctly, you'll either have to edit your report after upload or put the "URL" and "/ URL" into the square brackets and at the beginning and the end of the actual URL before you upload it.

And as if that isn't enough, the forum also turns "Düsseldorf" into "thesseldorf" everytime, because the "D" is cut of from "sseldorf" because of the elimination of the "ü", and the forum automatically turns a "D" into "the", just like it turns "ID" into "I'd". Same with "Club Immergrün", which appears as "Club Immergrand", because the "ü" gets eliminated and the "n" turned into "and".

And on top of that: If anybody quotes this report, all those errors I corrected here manually will re-appear again in the quote, and the "€"-sign gets deleted as well.
I had reported that to Admin already, but there was no reaction of any kind at all.


SW used to be called Sherlock Holmes in his previous life. Hat off indeed!Not so fast, guys! First I need confirmation that those parties actually were AO parties! By the way: There are no parties at Reichenbach falls!

Neurosynth
11-11-14, 05:49
It looks like in my case my use of a url redirection service, one that tries to provide TINY sized URLs, is being suppressed.

Wanking
11-19-14, 18:07
Well I didn't see any condom being used LOL.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9-8PJs6ypI

Escort4Us
11-20-14, 13:16
Villa Venus, has no girl photos? Or am I missing something on the www site when I click girls, and I see no girls. .

Vito Corleone
11-20-14, 13:47
Villa Venus, has no girl photos? Or am I missing something on the www site when I click girls, and I see no girls. .Venus, Dietz, Arabella & the rest of the RTC clubs have photos of the girls on the counter inside the club.

Escort4Us
11-20-14, 21:32
Venus, Dietz, Arabella & the rest of the RTC clubs have photos of the girls on the counter inside the club.Ahh. Doesn't do me much good from Munich.

I'll stop by tomorrow evening however. The pricing looks attractive. Oh ya.

Maxime
11-20-14, 22:36
Some of the RTC girls have moved from Arabella, Verena, Grimberg, etc to F39 now (Bochum).

Varenne
11-22-14, 18:10
Researchers are investigating the use of probiotics to get rid of smelly pussies:

http://www.inc.com/jeff-bercovici/sweet-peach-probiotics-lady-parts.html

Not an achievement our Dr. Wanking might be too keen on, I guess.

Wanking
11-22-14, 20:04
Not an achievement our Dr. Wanking might be too keen on, I guess.Noooooooooooo.

Neurosynth
11-26-14, 21:56
Some of the RTC girls have moved from Arabella, Verena, Grimberg, etc to F39 now (Bochum).Sorry, what does RTC stand for? (AO I get.).

Varenne
11-26-14, 23:00
Sorry, what does RTC stand for? (AO I get.).Roter Teppich Club (Red carpet club), the name describes the interior decoration. Most of the AO clubs in the Ruhr district were formerly RCT clubs, and still retain the original interior style.

Neurosynth
12-02-14, 06:01
Roter Teppich Club (Red carpet club), the name describes the interior decoration. Most of the AO clubs in the Ruhr district were formerly RCT clubs, and still retain the original interior style.Ah ok, thanks. But the implication is that RCT clubs are clubs that offer AO?

DFWdude
01-02-15, 00:33
Happy 2015 everyone! Well here we are and the new German law banning AO should be in effect. Still seeing lots of adds for AO parties so it will be interesting to see how this pans out. I would have thought it would have been a hard cut over to the new law. It is a shame that this law passed.

Gggfan
01-02-15, 21:08
Happy new year!

First and foremost special thanks to SwingerLover for all the information he's sharing with us and all the detailed reports he's sending regularly here. Without him, I would never have been able to have the experiences I had on the AO gangbang scene (experiences shared here, one report still pending).

Then, DFWdude, I did not know that they passed such a law. Spermagames are stille planning their regular parties. GB01 reformed their way of testing (which means that most of us won't be able to take part anymore), but they still hold AO parties. So, I do not fully understand.

Well, happy new year again, and thanks to everyone writing detailed reports, sharing infos and posting pics on this thread.


Happy 2015 everyone! Well here we are and the new German law banning AO should be in effect. Still seeing lots of adds for AO parties so it will be interesting to see how this pans out. I would have thought it would have been a hard cut over to the new law. It is a shame that this law passed.

SwingerLover
01-06-15, 20:56
Happy 2015 everyone! Well here we are and the new German law banning AO should be in effect. Still seeing lots of adds for AO parties so it will be interesting to see how this pans out. I would have thought it would have been a hard cut over to the new law. It is a shame that this law passed.How often and in how many threads do I have to post this over and over again?

There is no AO ban in Germany, and there never will be!

Banning AO is not and never was an issue; the only thing that was mentioned is the idea of a possible ban on ADVERTISING for AO, along with the stupid idea of banning flatrate prostitution.

Non of this was ever scheduled to be in effect from the beginning of THIS year! In fact, NO law (or rather by-law) is even ratified yet, much less in effect. The projected date is and always was JAN 1st 2016! Here's the link to the "basic points paper" regarding the prostitution protection by-law: https://researchprojectgermany.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/eckpunkte-prostituiertenschutzgesetz.pdf.

And if it should indeed happen, then checking it, monitoring it and exercising control over proper compliance to this by-law will propably be like watching over the AO ban in the Saarland, which is a complete laugh. (About which I also already wrote before in another report.).

Wanking
01-15-15, 18:31
So I just got my results back from my first full STD screen in 18 months. All clear. I go for a full screen every year or so just to be sure.

How many hoors have I had sex with in the last 18 months? 60 to 70, maybe 20 to 25 of them bareback.

In my lifetime maybe 1500 women, and about 200 bareback.

So bareback is safe :D

SwingerLover
01-16-15, 00:20
In my lifetime maybe 1500 women, and about 200 bareback.

So bareback is safe :DMuch safer than other "dangers" about which no one gives a shit!

I got to bareback my 268th bareback woman yesterday at Spermabang: Teresa Lynn.

Scroll down to the bottom of this list: http://spermabang.com/girls.html.

EastGoing
01-16-15, 01:28
268? 1500 in a lifetime, about 200 BB? 60 to 70, 20-25 BB in 18 months? I thought that 2 professional barebackers like you would make those numbers in 1 year or little more.

Since a few years I write down every action, I haven't made the sums of last year yet, but I'd say very close to 90 BB, starting from March, for many more sessions, since obviously there have been repetitions.

And, I couldn't believe it, I came out with clean tests last week just before flying back to Germany. I will not discuss this anymore, otherwise, if I didn't do it in the future, it could be supposed that I caught something, be that true or not.

Actually, I was so scared to know the results, that I don't think I'm going to make anymore any test, unless blatantly forced to by some evidence. I mean that until I feel fine, I probably will not want to know if something is wrong.

Anyway, I wouldn't encourage people to do BB, nor I would advertise it.

EastGoing
01-16-15, 01:38
268? 1500 in a lifetime, about 200 BB? 20-25 in 18 months? I thought that 2 professional barebackers like you would make those numbers in 1 year or little more.

Since a few years I write down every action, I haven't made the sums of last year yet, but I'd say very close to 90 BB, starting from March, for many more sessions, since obviously there have been repetitions.

And, I couldn't believe it, I came out with clean tests last week just before flying back to Germany. I will not discuss this anymore, otherwise, if I didn't do it in the future, it could be supposed that I caught something, be that true or not.

Actually, I was so scared to read the results, that I don't think I'm going to make anymore any test, unless blatantly forced to by some evidence.

Anyway, I wouldn't encourage people to do BB, nor I would advertize it.

SwingerLover
01-16-15, 02:15
Ouch! In a year? Don't forget that there are many repetitions. And I had my first AO fuck only in 2003, whereas I really started AO-partying after bareback woman #16 (who was Natasha The Gangbang Queen) in August of 2011. So you can divide 253 women by 40.5 months if you are looking for an avarage over this period. Counting the condom-fucks from before, where I didn't keep count, I should get to a total of somewhere between 400 and 450. So less than a 3rd of what Wanking had in total. I wore my last condom on DEC 15th 2012, with Trixi at the Eva-Freundin party in Mönchengladbach. (Reported about that in the Eva-Freundin thread.)

Guimauve92
01-17-15, 11:19
Lucky guys!

I maybe fucked around 20 women bareback (in Germany) and I got one Chlamydia and then mycoplasma. So, statistically it is so so. But these STD are pretty easy to cure. The problem when you got these STD is that you have no symptoms at all. Only STD screening can show if you have something or not.

Cheers guys.

Myrrh
01-17-15, 15:44
It is not so much surprising that the forums biggest bare back bears have claimed less than a thousand victims between them as to the fact that they can remember right down to the exact number they have hit and who is number 16 or 268th on the list and on which day of the week.

Even the world's most wanton serial killers begin to forget the numbers a little bit once they get past a few dozen victims or so and need to enlist the help of the authorities in recreating the scenes of crime and establishing which ones they must have did.

For serial killers it is not so much the numbers that matter as the resignation in knowing that once they have started down the road they have chosen then they must need do it again and again until they run out of victims, which is unlikely, or get caught. In the case of serial barebackers there is not even that last option because they will plow on regardless failing to register, or even seeming to be naturally Teflon coated against, the many viral and bacterial infections that non-professional barebackers regularly pick up after even just a few drunken episodes of forgetting to wear a condom with the girl they have just met down the local nightclub.

I know that when I used to see photos online of AO hoors I have familiarised myself with and who SwingerWanking and company have also dabbled with that I used to worry myself sick and scrub myself silly in the bath until the skin near came off. But with less than 500 bareback victims between these two serial offenders, and we know now that they keep accounts, then maybe I am worrying myself unnecessarily?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHiAZGlImMs

Wanking
01-17-15, 19:07
I know that when I used to see photos online of AO hoors I have familiarised myself with and who SwingerWanking and company have also dabbled with that I used to worry myself sick and scrub myself silly in the bath until the skin near came off. But with less than 500 bareback victims between these two serial offenders, and we know now that they keep accounts, then maybe I am worrying myself unnecessarily?
Hahahaa Ah that's hilarious LOL!! I'm glad I have contributed to the Myrrh worries ROFL!

SwingerLover
01-20-15, 16:54
Thanks, Myrrh, that was indeed a very amusing report; liked it a lot. Just FYI: AmelieO was my #53, in OCT of 2011.

EastGoing
01-23-15, 15:20
Lucky guys!
I maybe fucked around 20 women bareback (in Germany) and I got one Chlamydia and then mycoplasma. So, statistically it is so so. But these STD are pretty easy to cure. The problem when you got these STD is that you have no symptoms at all. Only STD screening can show if you have something or not.Well, as far as I know chlamydia, mycoplasma, HPV and other ones are quite harmless, innocuous, inoffensive to men. They are more likely to give trouble to girls. If I'm not mistaken, there is no test for HPV on men, or it is quite difficult to find if you have it if you don't have visible warts. And I think you can even heal on your own, without antibiotics, from chlamydia. If I'm not mistaken, if you are positive to IgG, it means you had it, or came in touch with it, but then you got rid of it and you are currently ok.

If there is a doctor among us willing to add something, please do it...


Ouch! In a year?I expected many more, since you live in Germany and bang continuously. My numbers from March 2014 are easy to reach, if you go to clubs with a certain attendance and take even only 3 girls per day, not always the same ones, you will see it doesn't take that much. There are guys reporting even 8-10 girls in a single day.


It is not so much surprising that the forums biggest bare back bears have claimed less than a thousand victims between them as to the fact that they can remember right down to the exact number they have hit and who is number 16 or 268th on the list and on which day of the week.You are not a number, you are a ghost. You are not a free man, because you are not allowed instant posting :D
Please inform us about the adventures of the third forum's biggest bare back bear!

SwingerLover
01-24-15, 21:02
I expected many more, since you live in Germany and bang continuously. I repeat a lot and like to stick to what works. I also stayed within a 250 km radius so far, with absolutely NOTHING going on in the westward direction and very little southbound.

That's the advantage of travellers from abroad: If you fly in, it doesn't matter much whether you fly to Hamburg, Berlin, theüsseldorf, Frankfurt or Stuttgart. Naturally you get different women in different parts of the country.

Instead I get some of the same women quite often in the same area, which is fine by me as long as I like them. For instance the private women I found so far on: www.eronity.com/?rid=00364521.

Just like her: http://www.eronity.com/gallery.php?id=1699724.

KevinLipps
02-04-15, 13:46
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/prostitution-koalition-einigt-sich-auf-kondom-zwang-in-bordellen-a-1016671.html

It means that YOU (the punters) are not allowed to fuck without a condom anymore and if you do so it will be YOU (not the prostitute) who gets prosecuted.

Wanking
02-04-15, 17:28
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/prostitution-koalition-einigt-sich-auf-kondom-zwang-in-bordellen-a-1016671.html

It means that YOU (the punters) are not allowed to fuck without a condom anymore and if you do so it will be YOU (not the prostitute) who gets prosecuted.Well I hope the inspector from the government, who is in the room when I am fucking the hoor is a least female. When she is sitting there checking whether or not I'm wearing a Johnny, I can offer to lick her cunny (with a dental dam)! If the inspector is a man I'll invite him to fuck the girl too with a condom of course.

SwingerLover
02-04-15, 17:56
It means that YOU (the punters) are not allowed to fuck without a condom anymore and if you do so it will be YOU (not the prostitute) who gets prosecuted.That's complete and utter BULLSHIT!

What's next? Prosecuting drug users while letting the dealers go scot free? Legally impossible! And also not possible to control and enforce. Just look at the "condom duty" in the Saarland and how it's NOT enforced!

Maxime
02-04-15, 18:41
It is maybe difficult to enforce, but all news sources are clear:

http://www.zeit.de/politik/deutschland/2015-02/prostitutionsgesetz-koalition-durchbruch

http://www.bild.de/politik/inland/prostitutionsgesetz/kondompflicht-fuer-freier-kommt-39630342.bild.html

Etc.

The German Coalition made the decision: it will be illegal to do AO (sex without condom) in Germany.

It is not clear if BBBJ is still allowed, but let's hope so.

Same with flat-rate sex, as I read it correctly.

Don't know the time line, but even when tests are used, it might be not legal anymore.

This means of course not that it will not happen, but it will not be publicly advertised, and raise prices.

Some clubs already anticipated with this (eg Freude39 does NOT show AO anymore on the sedcards of the girls, and look at the changing texts in some party descriptions.).

Let's hope a new coaltion will change it back in a few years.

(BTW, they did not raise minimum age from 18 to 21, so that stays the same).

Neurosynth
02-04-15, 20:07
I don't understand how this can possibly be enforced. What it can do, I suppose, is prevent clubs from advertising AO. But the only way to prosecute men for having AO sex is to somehow make the girls turn in customers they have AO sex with. It makes no sense.

So the result will probably create a bit more uncertainty thus driving up the price of AO, and guys will have to ask around a bit more to find out who will and won't go that way. Some new euphemisms will probably be invented for ads that mean AO without saying AO.

But unless girls can be prosecuted for offering AO, enforcement seems nearly impossible.

Hessen Bub
02-04-15, 21:30
That's complete and utter BULLSHIT!

What's next? Prosecuting drug users while letting the dealers go scot free? Legally impossible! And also not possible to control and enforce. Just look at the "condom duty" in the Saarland and how it's NOT enforced!Impossible? Look at Sweden.

HB.

Wanking
02-04-15, 21:41
Impossible? Look at Sweden.

HB.If the bareback and flatrate do finish in hoormany, I will still make trips there and just go to the cheapest brothels, swingerclubs and RLDs over there with occasional visits to FKKs. The sexlife of Wanking will continue.

I do like the ole bareback though, nothing like feeling of sliding your bare Frank up the bare Cunny, and occasionally blowing a big load inside. Yummy.

Strikesfun
02-05-15, 16:03
Hello.

Any information on when the new law starts. What has taken place in the clubs Venus, F39 Etc.

Thanks.

EastGoing
02-06-15, 00:13
Hello.

Any information on when the new law starts. What has taken place in the clubs Venus, F39 Etc.Thanks.

Next week there should be some more details. So far it seems that it will start from June-July. F39 swept away some 3 weeks ago the distinction between AO and not AO girls from their pics by the counter, but on Bild's ads something like "tabulous" was still specified not later than 1-2 days ago. Since yesterday, I speak for Arabella and F39, you pay entrance and one room, nomore bullshit choices 1-2-3 rooms when you arrive. The money of the room goes into a trasparent box, the first girl you session with will get 30 euros from that box. The following sessions are paid directly to the girls. If you have a banknote of 100, she will have to give you the change, TF will have nothing to do with the 2 of you apart from witnessing and writing somewhere (I'd say) the name of the girl and your locker number, to keep track of movements. BTW, to avoid awful researches among folks for change and / or "requests" of tips, I'd suggest to go with a few banknotes of 10 and 20, depending on how many girls you want to score.

Entrance prices have been increased: Arabella had given "free entry" since reopening, (it was something like 1x50, 2x80 , 3x99,99) now it is 30;
F39 is now 39,99 (Happy hour 19,99). I would like all customers to go and pay the exact amount with the coins :D

Strikesfun
02-06-15, 16:22
Smile All need help from the hell we pay when government protects us. Hold on to your pockets.

SwingerLover
02-07-15, 01:55
Any information on when the new law starts.Once again: http://berufsverband-sexarbeit.de/blog/wp-content/uploads/BMFSFJ_Eckpunkte_Prostituiertenschutzgesetz.pdf.

For the I-don't-know-how-many_th time: As you can read at the bottom of the page, the scheduled date is JAN 1st 2016.


Some new euphemisms will probably be invented for ads that mean AO without saying AO.

But unless girls can be prosecuted for offering AO, enforcement seems nearly impossible.I agree. Look at the Saarland and how the condom-duty is NOT enforced. As for euphemisms: Prohibiting AO-advertising was in discussion all along, and circumventing it with euphemisms is supposed to be forbidden too. Provided it's recognized as a euphemism.


it will be illegal to do AO (sex without condom) in Germany. That's not true. First of all, it's supposed to be a condom-duty, not an AO-prohibition. There's a difference. And second, it will only apply to prostitution and nothing else. Therefore it will not be "illegal to do AO" per se. Please stop creating panic! And I'm sure there's NOTHING that will keep Natascha The Gangbang Queen or AmelieO (to mention just two women) from continuing to do AO gangbangs!


Impossible? Look at Sweden.This is NOT about Sweden! It's Germany, and it's impossible to prosecute the user while letting the distributor go free! Regardless of the subject matter.

Optimist
02-07-15, 12:22
How it will all pan out can at this stage be unclear, but the practicalities are difficult enough for the German Police Union chairman, Rainer Wendt, to say no reasonable person can expect the Police to be checking who is wearing a condom and who is not. He called for the politicians to do the checks themselves!!

SwingerLover
02-07-15, 13:43
Wow! A comment from an official that is NOT bullshit! It seems that at least within the police are people who are still in their right mind!

European Man
02-07-15, 14:54
Will the new law ban ALSO the BBJ? I didn't find nothing about that on internet news, just some rumors on prostitution forums (not in English).

Paushalclubs will also be banned like partytreffs?

Wanking
02-07-15, 17:41
Will the new law ban ALSO the BBJ? I didn't find nothing about that on internet news, just some rumors on prostitution forums (not in English).

Paushalclubs will also be banned like partytreffs?I believe the law on wearing condoms will apply to all paid sex options where prostitutes are present. The BBBJ situation remains unclear at the moment.

Its a great time of confusion at the moment that will no doubt sort itself out in the coming months.

Banana Boi
02-07-15, 20:44
no reasonable person can expect the Police to be checking who is wearing a condom and who is not. There's AO at every club but no one talks about it so their regular girl offering them AO doesn't get fired. All the known AO clubs would need to do is say they are no longer AO clubs, but not change the service level. The only true difference will be AO sex will have to move behind closed doors.

Myrrh
02-07-15, 21:56
have the proposed laws changed overnight.
There must have been something that made GB01 panic and start implementing these new tests and requiring guests to pre-test before the event. What did they fear? What did they see on the horizon? Was it that they thought if they showed they were acting pro-actively now then the authorities might turn a blind eye to them when the tide starts to turn (as it has in Sweden and France)? Cattle do not stampede unless they hear the rustling of a predator in the bushes.
What proposed laws are you talking about? If you're talking about the "ProstSchG", (with the projected flatrate ban) then that has nothing at all to do with AO gangbangs and testing: https://researchprojectgermany.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/eckpunkte-prostituiertenschutzgesetz.pdf.
http://berufsverband-sexarbeit.de/blog/wp-content/uploads/BMFSFJ_Eckpunkte_Prostituiertenschutzgesetz.pdf.
As you can read at the bottom of the page, the scheduled date is JAN 1st 2016.Yes, I understand. Nobody wants things to change and the most passionate disciples of bareback banging will just love us to pretend as though nothing has happened and things will just carry on exactly the same way as before.

Unfortunately the 'golden' period of the last 5 years or so, when you could just simply walk in off the street into any number of German sex clubs pay a one off fee of 100 euros or less and then dump your untested (or even untreated) load into the already over flowing pussies or assholes of any number of different East European young girls who happen to be there, is near an end.

At least we have been given several months grace so you can if you wish sign off with a year long bareback blitzkrieg.

SwingerLover
02-09-15, 17:39
I believe the law on wearing condoms will apply to all paid sex options where prostitutes are present.If it should be put in effect in the same way the by-laws in Bavaria and the Saarland are verbalized, then it will definitely apply to BBBJs as well. Because BBBJs are "prostitution" too if you pay for them.


All the known AO clubs would need to do is say they are no longer AO clubs, but not change the service level. The only true difference will be AO sex will have to move behind closed doors.That's one option. Another option is to circumvent the rule, (should it indeed be put in effect) since there are many possible ways to do so. And let's not forget that existing AO clubs and flatrate places have a status quo for which they can claim "custom and practice"! So everything could go on as before for them, if they defend their status quo against any overzealous bureauKrauts. But if they do like MC-Sex in Hamm does, who already implemented a condom duty at their place from next month without any need, (because no law as actually been passed yet and much less put in effect) then there's of course no hope whatsoever. Why people already obey a law that doesn't even exist yet is beyond my understanding. Especially since nobody knows the correct letter of the prospected by-law yet. And the press has already proven to be unreliable in this regard half a year ago.

Everything is still unclear, so I suggest you all stop acting as if the 10 commandments had just been carved into stone!


Yes, I understand. Nobody wants things to change and the most passionate disciples of bareback banging will just love us to pretend as though nothing has happened and things will just carry on exactly the same way as before.So far nothing has actually happened, since no law has been passed yet. The only thing that has happened so far is that MC-Sex have announced to put themselves out of the game voluntarely. And that I personally would love to see "coast barbie" be put to death! (One can still dream!

Wanking
02-19-15, 01:31
Watching a doc tonight about Romanians coming to London. When you see the absolute grinding poverty some of them live in, its easy to see why they are prepared to fuck bareback for a few euros in Hoormany.

No Hoors or sex in this doc btw..
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-romanians-are-coming/on-demand/57094-001

Neurosynth
02-19-15, 15:08
Watching a doc tonight about Romanians coming to London. When you see the absolute grinding poverty some of them live in, its easy to see why they are prepared to fuck bareback for a few euros in Hoormany.

No Hoors or sex in this doc btw..
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-romanians-are-coming/on-demand/57094-001I've wondered about the commercial sex market's dependence on Romania for a while now. What if it started raining money in Romania and that one country's economy ramped up to the European average or more? Would supply dwindle and prices skyrocket? Or would women from other countries reenter the market with only a modest increase in prices? Or. ?

SwingerLover
02-22-15, 19:43
When you see the absolute grinding poverty some of them live in, its easy to see why they are prepared to fuck bareback for a few euros in Hoormany.Same with the Bulgarians, especially those from the remote hinterlands. If they are put into the shabby apartments like those in Krefeld, most of them propably think they died and gone to heaven: There's central heating for which you'll only have to turn a knob, there's running water inside the apartment (hot AND cold) and there's a toilet inside there too, so you don't have to run 30 meters across the outdoors yard to the privy during the wintertime.

Working at places like Fun Park Viersen, practically as "coined money hoors" if you count the money they'll propably get from each guy, some of them are still able to build HOUSES back home from what they earn here! And that's no joke, one of them was actually bragging about that a few months back.

So where's the harm for them? And what do they need "protection" from (regarding a "flatrate ban" or other feminist bullshit)?

Plus one part regarding the planned "ProstSchG" that hasn't been adressed yet at all: There is a passage in the corner stones paper where it read about "approval of the sites of prostitution", meaning that some city official would have to check the locations and see if they are suitable for that kind of business. Well, if that happens, then they can kiss prostitution in Krefeld goodbye, since most of the locations will fail thouroughly. And the poor women will not know what hit them, pretty much like back then when the pussyclub chain got closed down. (Although for other reasons.).

So the only thing those women really need protection from is "Küstenbarbie" & the feminists and that supposedly coming new "prostitutes protection law".

Marine One
03-04-15, 04:08
Yes, I understand. Nobody wants things to change

At least we have been given several months grace so you can if you wish sign off with a year long bareback blitzkrieg.I have read all the info I can find on the new laws -- but all documents were translations, I can't read German. Here is what I found, please correct me if I'm wrong:

- no ads for "unsafe sexual practices" allowed (perhaps includes BBBJ?

- fines for clients if they do AO, but no fines for the girls.

- brothel has to make condoms available; but I did not catch whether there are fines for the brothel if AO takes place.

- proposal ridiculed by observers as unenforceable.

So my conclusion is that AO may be harder to find in the future, but I doubt it will stop altogether.

Apparently laws do have some impact as there does not seem to be any BBBJ going on in the FKKs and brothels in Bavaria where the law forbids this type of thing.

On the other hand, where there is demand there is usually supply, and the unenforceable nature of the rules will probably mean that there will be limited impact.

Incidentally, the government in Canada just passed sweeping new puritanical laws that were widely seen as nonsense. Impact so far (3 months) has been zero.

Neurosynth
03-13-15, 21:37
Title pretty much says it. I'm sure I'm not the only one not sure where to go instead. For me Arabella and Laluna (technically not a RTC) were only an OK experience. But I've only been to each once. I'm thinking that maybe Villa-Venus is next. Or maybe Grimberg or Romantica?

Myrrh
03-14-15, 01:07
Good line-up today in F39, reinforced by the girls from Villa Verena (closed, allegedly for maineinance). By the time I left, signs had appeared on the windows of the biosauna, prohibiting AO:

"Es gilt in diesem Haus Kondomplicht beim GV".

Should anything still be going on, I would advice to keep it confidential.There's a sign in my local park saying please don't walk on the grass but this doesn't stop the little old ladies from taking their dogs there daily for a poo.

Smoking has also been fully forbidden in all restaurants, pubs, cafes and clubs in North Rhine-Westphalia since May 2013. Anyone forgot to tell the RTC girls about this too?

Optimist
03-14-15, 15:29
Here is a link to info re a planned protest day in June.

http://www.bw7.com/forum/showthread.php/80122-Es-ist-5-vor-12-%96-wir-wehren-uns!?p=620087

Neurosynth
03-14-15, 20:37
Title pretty much says it. I'm sure I'm not the only one not sure where to go instead. For me Arabella and Laluna (technically not a RTC) were only an OK experience. But I've only been to each once. I'm thinking that maybe Villa-Venus is next. Or maybe Grimberg or Romantica?Contributing to an answer to my own question. Today I went to both Grinberg and Romantica. Depending on how you look at it they are and aren't F39 substitutes. Check out my review for details.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3419-FKK-Arabella-Villa-Venus-Sauna-Grimberg-NRW-AO-Clubs&p=1694480&viewfull=1#post1694480.

Optimist
03-15-15, 14:10
Maybe I am late in noticing, but I see that Spermagames is running events in Belgium as well, so that could be a future option.

SwingerLover
03-15-15, 18:08
Yes, Spermagames had one party in Belgium in the past, they now advertise another one at a different location for April 15th: http://www.spermagames.com/gb-belgien-ao/#c2758.

Optimist
03-16-15, 11:14
If anybody is calling by La Luna maybe PM me: I have a request to make. Very simple but it would earn my undying gratitude ;)

My next visit to NRW will be in mid-April (just after Easter).

Optimist
03-16-15, 13:12
Sorry, should have asked anyone going to LL to PM me for details.

Wanking
04-11-15, 18:05
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3034724/Australian-scientists-designing-condom-feels-better-nothing.html?ito=social-facebook

Wanking
04-24-15, 17:40
Thanks to SW for posting all the events as always.

There really are a lack of all day bareback events now with the demise of the Krefeld apartment parties with young women and Funpark gone to shit.

There are plenty of short gangbangs 2 to 3 hours, but they wouldn't entice me for a trip, too much waiting around.

I like an all day event where I can fuck and relax, preferably with some food provided aswell. Also I like a mixture of gangbang and one on one sessions. There really arent those type of parties these days in NRW.

Breadman
05-19-15, 18:19
Having an amazing time in Thailand and finding AO available with most of the girls I'm seeing. Some I just jump right into bareback, do the usual going down on them, then getting them into doggy and going down on them that way and then just jumping right into the action. The condoms are sitting a foot away and 90% don't ask for the condom once the action gets going, they like the natural feel of a warm cock. And once you repeat with the girl, they'll never ask for a condom. Only rule is to make the room seem unused by other girls, make the girls feel like they are the only one your seeing.

Wanking
05-19-15, 18:46
90% don't ask for the condom once the action gets going, they like the natural feel of a warm cock. And once you repeat with the girl, they'll never ask for a condom. Only rule is to make the room seem unused by other girls, make the girls feel like they are the only one your seeing.Hey Bread,

Good effort man. Its just the same as last time I was there in 2011. AO is surely very easy to get over there, along with great GFE sessions.

Christian G
05-19-15, 21:37
Having an amazing time in Thailand and finding AO available with most of the girls I'm seeing. Some I just jump right into bareback, do the usual going down on them, then getting them into doggy and going down on them that way and then just jumping right into the action. The condoms are sitting a foot away and 90% don't ask for the condom once the action gets going, they like the natural feel of a warm cock. And once you repeat with the girl, they'll never ask for a condom. Only rule is to make the room seem unused by other girls, make the girls feel like they are the only one your seeing.I'm not a AO's Fan, too scared of STD. But I can confirm many girls in Thailand are available for AO. When I have a special feelings with some girls and I take them multiple times AO is always available if I would like.

Breadman
05-20-15, 06:41
Hey Bread,

Good effort man. Its just the same as last time I was there in 2011. AO is surely very easy to get over there, along with great GFE sessions.Barfined a very cute young gogo girl at a bar that's pretty new and has few customers, so I'm sure she's not seen much action. Went down on her very hairy pussy and munched some fresh thai pussy. Then turned her over into the doggy position to munch some more, she was unsure of what I was doing but got into it when I started to tongue fuck her from behind. I then stood up and quickly slid little breadman home, after 3 minutes or so of getting into it she realized there was no condom. I put one on but it was quickly off again after a few positions. She was all smiles afterwards, even posed for several photos. She even asked me to come back to gogo and sent me a few messages on Line. In off season when girls are averaging few if any barfines, she's happy to provide ao to make some extra cash. My rule of thumb though is to bareback girls who aren't the hottest, who don't work in places where bareback is freely given. And to have antibiotics on hand in case something crops up. So far so good.

Myrrh
05-20-15, 22:02
In off season when girls are averaging few if any barfines, she's happy to provide ao to make some extra cash. My rule of thumb though is to bareback girls who aren't the hottest, who don't work in places where bareback is freely given. And to have antibiotics on hand in case something crops up. So far so good.I know that AO is proposed to be banned in Germany from the start of next year but even so I am mystified as to why this German AO lounge and chat area thread has now been turned into a Thailand one.

There is a lot of myth about how easy it is to get AO in Thailand. Maybe over 10 years ago when Thai female sex workers (FSW's) thought it was natural for foreign customers to bareback because Thai guys never used condoms in the village brothels where they first started working. But then the Thai government realized that Thailand was turning into another HIV hot spot to rival places like S Africa, San Francisco and Haiti. The Thai government then undertook a massive and sustained HIV awareness and condom provision programme over many years and it worked to some degree. Thailand is still in the HIV top ten but it did not turn into another S Africa where something like 40% of the population is HIV positive.

Now today's Thai FSW's are all clued up on the risks of HIV and other STDs. So much so that the overwhelming majority of go go girls and most freelancers will ask if you have a condom as soon as you get into the room. There are even a high proportion of go go girls and a growing number of freelancers who will refuse to perform even a BJ without a condom.

Of course if a girl is desperate for money, she 'knows' you because you have been with her a few times before, you browbeat her into not using condoms or even try and slip it in from behind without her noticing then of course you can probably get away with it.

But I don't feel comfortable about cajoling / forcing a girl into bareback against her free will and slipping it in unprotected without her explicit consent or knowledge counts as (codeword?) in my view.

That's why I prefer Germany where if you want bareback then you know which girls will definitely provide it. Much better than only choosing ugly girls because they are the ones most likely to bareback or bringing a girl back to the room and hoping she might agree to it once she is there. BTW, antibiotics don't really help with the big H.

So why don't we go back to talking about the place that we should really be talking about?

Breadman
05-21-15, 10:46
That's why I prefer Germany where if you want bareback then you know which girls will definitely provide it. Much better than only choosing ugly girls because they are the ones most likely to bareback or bringing a girl back to the room and hoping she might agree to it once she is there. BTW, antibiotics don't really help with the big H.

So why don't we go back to talking about the place that we should really be talking about?It is a chat area, is it not? And I'm pretty sure the risks are the same no matter what country you visit if you go the AO route, you can catch the big H in Germany as well as Thailand. And what's this comment about 'ugly girls'? Some of the hottest girls I've done here go bareback. Reason I made a few posts in this section is German wings new low cost flight to Thailand, its possible many AO seakers in Europe will decide to venture down this way.

Breadman
05-21-15, 14:02
A girl being forced into providing ao by her pimp in a German ao club or a Thai gitl providing ao to get repeat business? Both might not want to go it but it happens.

Myrrh
05-22-15, 00:37
Now that AO is now 'officially' off the menu in the RTC clubs like F39, and the services that each girl provides are no longer advertised inside the clubs, I just wanted to clarify what words you needed to say to elicit a Nein or Ja when inquiring about your favorite service.

My German is non-existent but I believe that it is.

Keine Gummi or Ohne Gummi. To inquire about sex without a condom (hoping that you don't hear the reply "mit gummi".

Arsche ficken. For chocolate starfish banging.

Blasen. For blow jobs.

Schluken. For swallowing or is this something else?

But what about the following?

- Cum in pussy.

- Cum in mouth.

- Cum on face.

- Arse licking (her doing the hard work not you).

- Deep throat.

Anything else?

Apologies if there is some list posted somewhere which covers all this. However we just wouldn't want any misunderstandings with the girls where we end up doing CIP without her permission would we?

Seivel
05-22-15, 05:46
But what about the following?

- Cum in pussy. = Muschi spritzen

- Cum in mouth. = Aufnahme or Im mund spritzen

- Cum on face. = Ins gesicht spritzen

- Arse licking (her doing the hard work not you). = Arsch lecken bei mir or Zungen-anal (aktiv)

- Deep throat. = Deep throat or Tief im Hals nehmen

Hi see above.

Breadman
05-22-15, 08:04
My weakness are hot girls with pointy tits that stand out, barfined one yesterday and the action starts and she sticks my Dick halfway into her pussy ao, a few grinder, then pulls out and says 'condom'. It was ao for a good 3 minutes, think the issue was more of a concern of getting pregnant.

Is ao safer in Germany or Thailand? Who knows, all I know is the pussy I see in Thailand is less fucked than in the clubs.

Usel1
06-04-15, 20:48
My weakness are hot girls with pointy tits that stand out, barfined one yesterday and the action starts and she sticks my Dick halfway into her pussy ao, a few grinder, then pulls out and says 'condom'. It was ao for a good 3 minutes, think the issue was more of a concern of getting pregnant.

Is ao safer in Germany or Thailand? Who knows, all I know is the pussy I see in Thailand is less fucked than in the clubs.The concern is not of Thai girls but of Thai men.

Average Thai man:

Doesn't like BBJ.

Sex means only fuck in pussy and creampie happy end.

Change girls as much as possible.

Normally using to fuck in Thai brothel (sort of hell for girls, more baby that girl) which are for Thai only.

Thai man is a sort of king for ladies and this means they continue to do the same type of "sex" with their official lady.

Consequently, as for money reason, send their lady to us, the so called "falang" (foreigner) to earn.

So, fuck uncover is never safe but if you consider what could Thai lady get from such gentlemen, I would not suggest AO.

Same thought about Romanian girl but, as they are a bit (just a bit) over Thai QI, les (a bit less) risk.

Gggfan
06-06-15, 19:50
Hi all,

A simple question on video shooting at Spermagames events.

I already took part in two gb01 events (filmed) and know how they proceed: no formal authorization signed, no faces shown, etc.

I took part to one spermagames event but that event did not have a first part filmed: so I was wondering what was the process. Authorization? Do they film the head (not only your cock as in gb01 events), can you wear a mask in case you want to remain anonymous? Not that many of their filmed parties released on the Internet yet, so any info would be useful as I am planning my traditional summer AO ganbangs.

Dates are still sparse, bu starting to get some hints to start organizing things (thanks again Swingerlover), like this one (even if far from confirmed, I know):


TUE, July 7th, propably 15-22:00: Spermagames AO Gangbang Party with Sexy-Juliana & others in Reichelsheim for 100 (from 18:00 for 90 , from 19:30 for 80 ; 2 hours also for 80 ) + 20 for HIV-test.

Frank212
06-08-15, 13:57
I was wondering if anyone attended the GB of natascha near Morfelden.

I was in Frankfurkt but the lack of information made me not going.

Anyway would love to hear how ot was.

SwingerLover
06-08-15, 17:02
I was wondering if anyone attended the GB of natascha near Morfelden.

I was in Frankfurkt but the lack of information made me not going.

Anyway would love to hear how ot was.You and me both!




I took part to one spermagames event but that event did not have a first part filmed: so I was wondering what was the process. Authorization? Do they film the head (not only your cock as in gb01 events), can you wear a mask in case you want to remain anonymous? Not that many of their filmed parties released on the Internet yet, so any info would be useful as I am planning my traditional summer AO ganbangs.I tried to attend one such filmed event and it had gone down like this:

Due to heavy traffic, MrBallz and I arrived a little late and were there at 13:00 sharp. After paying the entry and having a little discussion about the impossibility of combining the 20 € discount for the filming with another voucher that MrBallz still had from a previous party, we went upstairs to get tested, went inside to get some ID mug shots taken and sign a release paper, then went downstairs to get undressed and then got our wristbands for test confirmation and re-entered the lounge. By now it was 13:20 and Angi just came down the staircase. I thought: Shit, we missed the first round. But I was far off, because we had missed everything, since there was only this one 20-minute-round. So we sat around for over an hour and a half, waiting for the real party to start, which in itself was quite good. (That was back in JAN, did I report on that?

So now you know what to expect. For nothing else than saving 20 €, I would not have needed to get there 2 hours early to then sit around and wait for the party to start. Just because they had advertised the filming for 13-14:30 when in reality it only lasted from 13-13:20.

Creampies
06-18-15, 04:40
I have seen all the videos at Spermastudio and have to say the camera men really don't know what there doing, there at the wrong place at the wrong time. These guys rarely keep the camera still long enough even for a creampie to fully drip out, it It is as if they rapidly move the camera from the pussy as soon as they see a cock go near a mouth its as if they are oral fixated and that a cock in the mouth is more important than a cock in the pussy the speed in which they move the cam around is enough to cause motion sickness. To the guys that do creampies good on you But please please please when you've cum please get out of the way after you have cum and don't touch her pussy with your fingers and wipe away a good creampie before the cam has a chance to even get near it. Oh and when in line waiting please try to stand a bit further back from the guy in front I've almost seen one guys cock on the ass of the man in front, how am I meant to wank one off if that's all I can see.

Wanking
06-20-15, 21:41
Just back from a few days in Berlin. My first non AO trip in nearly 18 months. Spent 2 very enjoyable days in Annie Porsche Gangbang club. Some genuinely horny ladies there but having to go back to using condoms was horrible.

The club reminded me a bit of mettmann in some ways.

Myrrh
06-20-15, 23:35
My first non AO trip in nearly 18 months. Some genuinely horny ladies there but having to go back to using condoms was horrible.Using condoms whilst having sex with prostitutes is actually the norm rather than the exception, although anyone reading many of the posts on this forum over the past few years could be fooled into thinking this wasn't the case.

Getting used to the smell of latex now might be good practice for the new year.

SwingerLover
06-21-15, 14:59
Well, Wanking, if you had gone to NRW instead of Berlin, there would still have been a number of AO options for you.

WED 17th, a visit to Grimbergsauna or Villa Venus would have been necessary for AO. Or maybe a visit to Saunaclub Anubis, FKA Cleopatra Arena.

THU 18th in the morning, you could have joined the AO gangbang with Ruby in Gelsenkirchen or the one in Essen with Annette and spent the afternoon and evening strolling around the RLD or hit a Swingerclub or Partytreff in Gelsenkirchen (to relax or use some condoms after all). Partytreff Palace in Gladbeck would have been another option, although a rubber one. It turned out that this place is rubbers-only, still the current P-Card offer would have given you 3 hours per day for a month (= your entire stay) for 100 € flat.

FRI 19th you could have gone to Sarah in Gelsenkirchen from 11:00 and/or to either of the 2 AO Kino gangbangs in the afternoon in Cologne or Mönchengladbach.

And if you would have been around on SAT 20th, you could have gone to the private AO party near Bochum with at least 8 private AO women. (Too bad I had to miss that one!

So for you, Gelsenkirchen would have been the place to be during those days, instead of Berlin. Oh, I know, gangbangs with only one woman are not quite your cup of tea, but neither is using condoms.

And I also must say that the number of AO flatrate options in NRW has dropped significantly, whereas the number of such events further south has risen. Which is just fine with me, since I have to do less driving. (Smile!) I still miss the Krefeld apartment parties though, along with the Turkish and Bulgarian music and all the AO girls. (Sigh!)

Wanking
06-21-15, 23:30
I still miss the Krefeld apartment parties though, along with the Turkish and Bulgarian music and all the AO girls. (Sigh!)Don't forget about the broken toilet seats LOL.

I like visiting Berlin for reasons other than sex, much more English spoken, and I get a great buzz from Berlin that I don't get in the NRW area.

Plus Berlin has the big street scene, great for a perv.

SwingerLover
06-22-15, 10:06
Don't forget about the broken toilet seats LOL.Ah, yes, I had completely forgotten about those after nearly two years at LovaFactory Kerpen and FunPark Viersen.

I think it's about time to organize our own AO parties in NRW; I already know at least 6 German guys who are interested. One of them has a proper location (with fixed toilet seats though) and it only depends on the guys from NRW to ask 2 or 3 of the former partygirls if they will do it.

JohnnyO
06-22-15, 22:28
Ah, yes, I had completely forgotten about those after nearly two years at LovaFactory Kerpen and FunPark Viersen.

I think it's about time to organize our own AO parties in NRW; I already know at least 6 German guys who are interested. One of them has a proper location (with fixed toilet seats though) and it only depends on the guys from NRW to ask 2 or 3 of the former partygirls if they will do it.Private party sounds like a plan, I would be up for the that. So long as the light is nothing like spermagames.

Just to add to what wanking said, the only Krefeld party I went to, this may sound a bit strange but after I went I thought it was meh, then as the months past I appreciated it and thought about it more and more. Now I would love to attend another.

Christian G
06-23-15, 12:34
Spent 2 very enjoyable days in Annie Porsche Gangbang club. .I never been in AP, CBJ or BBBJ?

Wanking
06-23-15, 13:24
I never been in AP, CBJ or BBBJ?Mostly CBJ but some BBBJ.

Christian G
06-23-15, 19:37
Mostly CBJ but some BBBJ.Oh bad news. I hoped their are mostly (almost all) BBBJ like EBW. Thanks.

Myrrh
07-01-15, 23:00
I have moved these posts below from the Club La Luna thread to this thread as they were more concerned about the acquisition of infections from AO clubs rather than about La Luna in particular.


Hi WG,

I was wondering if you had picked up any STDs after your forays inn the AO ckubs. I went in April to Freude 39 and Grimsberg and got Orchitis (inflamation of the testicles). I am planning to go at the end of this week and was hoping the problem had cleared up. I tried to PM you about this but you don't have PM priviledges. Pllease PM me if you don't want to respond on the forum. Thanks.

JB.
Sorry to hear of your misfortune but if it is any consolation you are almost certainly not alone in picking up infections from your chosen past time.

Many / most (or should that be almost all?) will have picked up nasty along the way but this tends to be chronically under reported.

It spoils the machismo to admit any weaknesses or incidences of bad luck.

So guys report instead that they visited an AO club and splatter gunned the inside of the pussy's of half a dozen or so girls that happened to be there.

Woke the next day and repeated, but this time at a different club.

They have never picked up anything from this sort of activity over the years not even a sneeze.

I should have reported it in April but I got so much flak from some posters, who said these things should not be posted, when I reported a previous infection, that I desisted. Perhaps it might have saved someone getting the same thing, although, hopefully, no one did.
Reporting that sometimes there are infections is fine, but it is more difficult when someone reports on a specific place or person as they are not always correct in identifying the person transmitting the infection.
Reporting on a specific board of an infection is wrong. It is a guess that this is related to this club.

Infections take days to surface, no one reports on all the places and activities that have taken place from the time in a specific location.

And this just gives agency and government administrations ammunition to shut places down.My stance on the above is publish and be damned when it comes to infections. Some news is better than no news.

It would be a tragedy for someone to go a club and pick up an infection which could have been avoided if only someone else had warned him. That guy may have taken time off work and spent lots of money going to Germany only to end up picking up an infection which probably completely ruined his visit. He may also have needed to spend more time and money afterwards curing the infection, assuming it is curable, and infections are often acutely painful as well.

All I would say is that if you are going to report then be accurate and report fully!

If you went to an STD clinic to report an infection they would ask you what sexual partners you have had and what kind of sex (oral, vaginal, anal), whether it was protected and who performed what on who.

They would want these details for at least the past 3 months which is a bit excessive as most STDs manifest themselves within a month and usually two weeks.

So if you want to report then please report as this is useful. But I think it would be good to say something like I noticed the infection on this date and over the previous month I had unprotected sex at these clubs on these dates. Please also report what other unprotected sex you have been having outside of the AO club as it is possible that you may have picked this up from a girlfriend / casual acquaintance.

Armed with this knowledge then punters can choose to stay away from a particular club for a while just in case they catch something. However if they like taking risks then they may go anyway. Maybe that is part of the thrill of AO for some.

I don't think it is fair to point out which girls at AO clubs you had sex with who could have given you the infection because.

1) If you had sex with two girls and one gave you the infection then one girl would be unfairly tainted.

2) Guys usually have sex with more than one girl at the club so the infection may have spread from one girl to others by the time that the problem is reported so which girl had it first is probably irrelevant.

So report on here which clubs you visited but also inform the club if you can.

Normally if there is an outbreak of an infection at a club then it is likely to be noticed and reported to the club by regulars anyway and the club would be expected to then take steps to investigate if there is a problem with particular girls and if so ask those girls to get treatment and to stay away until they are treated.

I can recall at least two reports on this forum over the years of girls at AO clubs who have been forced to take a 'holiday' because they were found to have infections.

In any case why is everyone worried about the reporting of infections picked up at clubs? After all the overwhelming consensus seems to be that it is impossible to pick up infections from AO. The girls never get any despite seeing many guys per day and no guys ever report any infections (apart from seemingly the one guy on here who was honest enough to report that he has picked up AO infections on more than one occasion).

It is impossible to pick up infections from AO clubs and anyone reporting that they have will just not be believed anyway. So why worry?

Member #4460
07-02-15, 18:59
It is good to report things and I do wonder why I don't receive any PMs from people concerning questions they might have!

The problem is, there might be someone who speculates they got something from a particular club but it could have been the club that he went to a few days earlier! I could say that I went to this and this club and he can say he went to this and this club but then we tried out different girls. It can be possible to statistically point out which girl is infected but everyone has to compare notes honestly.

No other problems except the Urinary Tract Infection in November that was treated and cured right away (I missed Charli XCX's Album Release Party that I was invited to thanks to that problem!

Last month, a lot of the girls were coughing at Grimberg but that could have been Smoker's cough but I didn't come down with any colds!

Jimmy Boy 99
07-02-15, 19:57
But I think it would be good to say something like I noticed the infection on this date and over the previous month I had unprotected sex at these clubs on these dates. Please also report what other unprotected sex you have been having outside of the AO club as it is possible that you may have picked this up from a girlfriend / casual acquaintance.

Armed with this knowledge then punters can choose to stay away from a particular club for a while just in case they catch something. However if they like taking risks then they may go anyway. Maybe that is part of the thrill of AO for some.

I don't think it is fair to point out which girls at AO clubs you had sex with who could have given you the infection because.

1) If you had sex with two girls and one gave you the infection then one girl would be unfairly tainted.

2) Guys usually have sex with more than one girl at the club so the infection may have spread from one girl to others by the time that the problem is reported so which girl had it first is probably irrelevant.

So report on here which clubs you visited but also inform the club if you can.I had no unprotected sex (except for BBBJ at the FKKs in Germany) until I went to Freude 39 and Grimsberg. I had AO intercourse with 6 girls over two days. The third day noticed my right testicle had swelled but I thought it was due to it getting twisted or sucked too hard, so I went to Villa Romantika and fucked three girls there AO but by the end of the day it had become so painful that I rested the next day and finally went to a doctor the day after when the pain continued and found out is was Orchitis. When I got the previous infection, I comtacted Club Angelique and got an acknowledgement but Villa Venus never responded.

Optimist
07-02-15, 20:27
Jimmy Boy. As so often I can see it is not possible to pin down exactly who transmitted it to you. We can only hope that the clubs you contacted arranged for extra testing of the workers. At La Luna I believe the girls are tested monthly.

Maybe a silly question, but I am interested in the process you went through to find a doctor in Germany (I assume you went in Germany). Did you just go to the nearest? And did he\she ask for details of your recent sex?

Usel1
07-03-15, 20:53
I just talked with a friend of mine who spent lots of time in FKK and similar.

He told me he knew the lady take antibiotics as prevention.

I know also in Thailand lots of girl use same procedure to prevent STD.

I talk as I do for job with doctors who gave me different opinion.

Someones think is silly and dangerous as antibiotics destroy flora and main functionality of the whole health system but some, e. G. , prescript antibiotics in case of, e. G. , cystitis, one pill after sex!

So, I suppose all of the girl gets antibiotics, may be, once a working day but it doesn't mean STD are avoided.

Member #4359
07-03-15, 21:17
I had no unprotected sex (except for BBBJ at the FKKs in Germany) until I went to Freude 39 and Grimsberg. I had AO intercourse with 6 girls over two days. The third day noticed my right testicle had swelled but I thought it was due to it getting twisted or sucked too hard, so I went to Villa Romantika and fucked three girls there AO but by the end of the day it had become so painful that I rested the next day and finally went to a doctor the day after when the pain continued and found out is was Orchitis. When I got the previous infection, I comtacted Club Angelique and got an acknowledgement but Villa Venus never responded.I just wanted to point out that Orchitis can be caused by STD's (chlamydia or gonorrhea) but is not itself an STD. It is an inflammation of the testes, sometimes from the STD's mentioned and sometimes from epididymitis or brucellosis. It is fairly easily treated with antibiotics.

I agree that prompt reporting of full details is the best way to deal with these things. Then all concerned parties can act as they see fit.

To the anti-AO hysterics, there are many serious contagious diseases that are transmitted more easily than STD's to which you have exposure all the time.

Jimmy Boy 99
07-04-15, 09:12
Maybe a silly question, but I am interested in the process you went through to find a doctor in Germany (I assume you went in Germany). Did you just go to the nearest? And did he\she ask for details of your recent sex?I went on-line and got the name of a doctor or clinic (I forget what search term I used). When I got to the address, it was not there. I went into a nearby pharmacy and asked where it was and was told it was no longer there. She gave me the address of a hospital with a walk-in clinic and I went there for treatment. He asked me about my sexual activity. Perhpas the easiest thing to do is just to go to a pharmacy and ask where you can get tested.

XXL
07-04-15, 09:24
As I reported in a previous post, I got the Chlamydia prize 3 times out of 7 or 8 AO stints (at least 3 girls each time) at La Luna some years ago before it closed and reopened. For me, barebacking carries a much higher risk of STD in Germany than it does eg in the Cameroons or than it did in the good old days in Jakarta. Too many desperate barebackers from Europe and the World converging on too few barebacking venues IMO. Unless you have a cock coated in teflon which some punters here seem to have.

Marine One
07-08-15, 04:05
No other problems except the Urinary Tract Infection in November that was treated and cured right away (I missed Charli XCX's Album Release Party that I was invited to thanks to that problem!That is funny you mentioned it. Around the same time I was at F39 where I met a girl who I thought reminded me of Charli XCX. I gave her a nice back rub while a song by Charli XCX, "Break the Rules," was playing. It ended with me giving her a big cream pie, one of my best memories of the trip.

Happy to say, no STDs were contracted.

Member #4359
07-08-15, 14:52
As I reported in a previous post, I got the Chlamydia prize 3 times out of 7 or 8 AO stints (at least 3 girls each time) at La Luna some years ago before it closed and reopened. For me, barebacking carries a much higher risk of STD in Germany than it does eg in the Cameroons or than it did in the good old days in Jakarta. Too many desperate barebackers from Europe and the World converging on too few barebacking venues IMO. Unless you have a cock coated in teflon which some punters here seem to have.Well, no teflon here but I've only contracted STD's twice in my life, both gonorrhea, both times stateside, once with a working girl and the other I don't know from whom. That's out of 37 years of the hobby, 99% of the time bareback. I'm probably not a high volume hobbyist, however, averaging maybe 100 times a year.

Wanking
07-10-15, 18:59
I know he doesn't post here anymore but many of us have enjoyed his reports over the years.

He is currently out in Thailand, sticking his bare mushroom cock into any available orifice, and posting it on his 'p4p' blog.

The blog is in French but Google chrome is your friend for translation. http://goo.gl/7LzqeP.

Usel1
07-11-15, 08:20
https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_von_Abk%C3%BCrzungen_in_der_Sexarbeit

Is in German but really understandble.

ThomasNorway
07-15-15, 16:51
It's that time of year again.

I'm posting this here as we don't have a separate travel announcement thread in this section. Come August I'm doing my annual motorcycle trip to Germany and plan on fornicating until my privates fall off. If anyone would care to meet up at any time or place during my trip, it would be a blast to have somebody to chat with between battles.

My schedule is tentatively as follows;.

02.08 - Arriving, can be in Hamburg by 14:00 if there is anything going on there, otherwise will push on further south.

03.08 - It looks like Melanie Moon will have something happening in Karlsruhe on this day. Haven't been officially announced as of right now though.

04.08 - Spermagames party in Mörfelden. I have already signed up.

05.08 - Gina Blond party in Düren. I have already signed up and sent deposit.

06.08 - Open for now, but need to stay in the Cologne vicinity.

07.08 - Open for now, but need to stay in the Cologne vicinity.

08.08 - Open for now, though I will need to travel northwards.

09.08 - Return trip, no time for fun.

As always I'm very open for tips and advice, and will be keeping a sharp eye on the calendar. Again, a huge thanks to SL for all his efforts in that regard!

EuroContrast
07-15-15, 18:36
It's that time of year again.

I'm posting this here as we don't have a separate travel announcement thread in this section. Come August I'm doing my annual motorcycle trip to Germany and plan on fornicating until my privates fall off. If anyone would care to meet up at any time or place during my trip, it would be a blast to have somebody to chat with between battles.

My schedule is tentatively as follows;.

02.08 - Arriving, can be in Hamburg by 14:00 if there is anything going on there, otherwise will push on further south.

03.08 - It looks like Melanie Moon will have something happening in Karlsruhe on this day. Haven't been officially announced as of right now though.

04.08 - Spermagames party in Mrfelden. I have already signed up.

05.08 - Gina Blond party in Dren. I have already signed up and sent deposit...I plan on being at the event in Karlsruhe if I can get the day off from work. Maybe I'll see you there.

EC

Jimmy Boy 99
07-16-15, 15:42
My streak continues. A doctor confirmed that I had gonorrhea and treated me for it and chlamydia. That makes 3 out of 5 times I have gotten something after visiting RTC clubs (two times gonorrhea and one time orchitis).

To pre-empt those who would immediately post how do you know where, when, and who, etc. I did not have any sexual contacts from when I left Germany on 6/24 until I returned on 7/3, so it is only a remote possibility, at best, that I was already infected.

I had BBBJ but covered sex with Lily and Alana at VV on 7/3, BBBJ and covered sex with Beatrix and Anita, then BBBJ and A / O sex with Melissa and a brunette, all at Freude 39 on 7/4, then BBBJ and A / O sex with Alina and Simone at Romantika and then BBBJ and A / O sex with Marianne and Jasmin at VV, all on 7/5.

While it is perhaps possible that I got infected by one of the bbbjs, it is much more likely that one of the girls I had A / O sex with infected me, and I may have infected the ones I subsequently had A / O sex with.

I have contacted the clubs about getting the girls I mentioned tested.

Optimist
07-17-15, 15:01
Jimmy Boy, thanks for the info. It is good to have the knowledge that sometimes there are infections. Bad luck . It is good to tell the clubs you visited that you might have passed on an infection. Of course as always which girl has what infection when is guesswork and also temporary.

Recently a girl I went with was reported on a forum to have an infection. Both she and I were tested subsequently and found to have no infections.

Strikesfun
07-17-15, 19:18
This does not add up and I am not trying to create a heated discussion here but I was there at VV and 39 that weekend, had sessions with the same women, and have no problem.

In addition, I was tested this past week and have no problem of infections.

I was at VV and 39 for about 4 hours each and these girls had a number of fun sessions with other guest.


My streak continues. A doctor confirmed that I had gonorrhea and treated me for it and chlamydia. That makes 3 out of 5 times I have gotten something after visiting RTC clubs (two times gonorrhea and one time orchitis).

To pre-empt those who would immediately post how do you know where, when, and who, etc. I did not have any sexual contacts from when I left Germany on 6/24 until I returned on 7/3, so it is only a remote possibility, at best, that I was already infected.

I had BBBJ but covered sex with Lily and Alana at VV on 7/3, BBBJ and covered sex with Beatrix and Anita, then BBBJ and A / O sex with Melissa and a brunette, all at Freude 39 on 7/4, then BBBJ and A / O sex with Alina and Simone at Romantika and then BBBJ and A / O sex with Marianne and Jasmin at VV, all on 7/5.

While it is perhaps possible that I got infected by one of the bbbjs, it is much more likely that one of the girls I had A / O sex with infected me, and I may have infected the ones I subsequently had A / O sex with.

I have contacted the clubs about getting the girls I mentioned tested.

Optimist
07-17-15, 20:27
I have realised that it may be against the forum rules to say that someone has an std, unless backed up by publicly accessible records. I am a bit unsure about the rules here.

Jimmy Boy 99
07-18-15, 00:27
This does not add up and I am not trying to create a heated discussion here but I was there at VV and 39 that weekend, had sessions with the same women, and have no problem.

In addition, I was tested this past week and have no problem of infections.

I was at VV and 39 for about 4 hours each and these girls had a number of fun sessions with other guest.You are either luckier, more resistant, or both. The doctor at the clinic took one look at the pus on my dick and said you have gonorrhea, and gave me a shot of Penicillin and two tablets for chlamydia. I also gave them a tube of liquid (not blood, word for what I gave is prohibited on this site) to test. In the unlikely event it comes back negative, I will certainly post that.

Myrrh
07-18-15, 00:58
You are either luckier, more resistant, or both.Jimmy Boy,

Unfortunately it seems that you happen to have a normal dick instead of a copper plated one like the other super jocks on here.

I must admit that I was beginning to have some serious doubts about whether any STI's actually existed after reading numerous reports of pussies being splatter gunned, but never any accounts of any mishaps.

Are you really telling us that it is actually possible to catch an infection from AO sex?

Vito Corleone
07-19-15, 12:18
My little friend is not made of Teflon or copper plated, but I haven't caught anything in yrs. Some end up with a burning sensation when taking a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140), I developed this disease of burning desire to return to Germany ASAP!

BigBuddy69
07-19-15, 12:47
I had two STDs on three AO trips. One time: gono+chlamy (very funny to have something green and smelly coming out of your dick.). Second time: only chlamy.

Came back last week from my last trip (only one AO encounter). I've been feeling sick all this week (probably unrelated to AO, more to french kissing) but to this day, nothing green coming out of my dick.

Jimmy Boy 99
07-21-15, 16:21
You are either luckier, more resistant, or both. The doctor at the clinic took one look at the pus on my dick and said you have gonorrhea, and gave me a shot of Penicillin and two tablets for chlamydia. I also gave them a tube of liquid (not blood, word for what I gave is prohibited on this site) to test. In the unlikely event it comes back negative, I will certainly post that.It's official. Test came back positive for gonorrhea, negative for chlamydia, syphillis, HIV.

Biggusdickus
07-21-15, 17:20
In light of an event in the near future:

I took part in the last teeny gang bang at club la Luna in may, with Kathi, Miruna, and Flori. I wrote a short report about it in a German forum and spread some hints about using big white pills (co-amoxi) before and after the event. While I took the first pill just as a means of precaution my little friend cried a whitey tear drop the next morning. The second and a few more pills solved the problem just fine for me but I'm pretty sure that it would have been worse if I hadn't taken the pill before.

I'm not recommending to do like I did. No doctor would either. Moreover, probably not everybody has easy access to antibiotics. I'm writing this because in two days there will be another teeny gang bang at CLL. So everybody be prepared! Of course all of you know the risk but maybe a reminder of the dangers from time to time can't do no harm.

Funny thing is if you catch something at an event like this it doesn't necessarily have to be a gift from one of the ladies but could at least in theory be a man to man transmission via a commonly visited cave of joy. For some strange macho reason getting gonorrhea from a man would annoy me more than having it from a woman.

I won't be there for the gang bang by the way. But that's just because I've spent hours with Kathi yesterday. And two visits per week at CLL is more than my inner life can bear.

Myrrh
07-22-15, 00:03
I took part in the last teeny gang bang at club la Luna in may, with Kathi, Miruna, and Flori. I wrote a short report about it in a German forum and spread some hints about using big white pills (co-amoxi) before and after the event. While I took the first pill just as a means of precaution my little friend cried a whitey tear drop the next morning. The second and a few more pills solved the problem just fine for me but I'm pretty sure that it would have been worse if I hadn't taken the pill before.

Funny thing is if you catch something at an event like this it doesn't necessarily have to be a gift from one of the ladies but could at least in theory be a man to man transmission via a commonly visited cave of joy.I think you have done a good job of dampening the ardor of anyone thinking of joining one of these events. Unless of course the thrill comes from the bug-chasing.

SwingerLover
08-07-15, 13:46
Since there is a discussion in the Club LaLuna thread which doesn't belong there, I'll move it over to this thread. As I already had commented there:


Respectfully disagree with this last comments. Which facts?

There are no data showing increase of HIV infections in Germany, quite the opposite, And even less "facts" to suggest that HIV infections in Germany are due to people form abroad flying to AO clubs. All this is speculative, SW theories as much as Myrrh's, your's or mine..

I agree. In addition, it's not even quite clear anymore whether HIV has got anything to do with AIDS at all: http://www.medizin-unwahrheiten.de/die_aids_luge.html.


At least I know for a fact that there are people who fly in from abroad to visit AO clubs in Germany because I've done it myself!
And I'm also pretty sure that the reason for the intended AO ban is an increase of STI, probably HIV-infections in particular.It's uncontested that guys fly in from abroad to visit AO Clubs, parties and hoors. But the overall minimal number of guys from abroad is certainly NOT the reason for any planned ban.

Keeping in mind that the last official paper (the Basic Points paper from AUG 14th 2014) didn't mention an AO ban at all, but rather the option of only prohibiting ads for AO. Everything else might be pure media speculation, just like they had written about a "gangbang ban", while the Basic Points paper only stated "[CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) gangbang". But since next to nobody among German native speakers understands the term "[CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123)", they just omitted that from their articles. I don't believe anything I read in the newspapers about a prospected law unless I can check the source myself. As I did with the Basic Points paper from AUG 14th 2014: http://berufsverband-sexarbeit.de/blog/wp-content/uploads/BMFSFJ_Eckpunkte_Prostituiertenschutzgesetz.pdf.



I have not been keeping up with the latest on the so called AO ban, but if it is not even past the first step of discussion then I would assume it would be unrealistic to get to past the final step by January 2016?Who knows?

Last report I had read was this article from right after the protest demonstration (on June 13th in Frankfurt), where it says: "Es theürfte die Gegner des Gesetzes beruhigen, dass der Entwurf zum Prostituierten-Schutz-Gesetz bislang nicht einmal in der Ressortabstimmung ist. So bald wird es also vermutlich noch kein neues Gesetz geben. " http://www.fr-online.de/politik/prostituierte--haengepartie-beim-prostitutionsgesetz, 1472596,30966220. Html.

Translation: "It should calm down the opponents of the law, that the concept to the prostitutes-protection-law isn't even in the interdepartmental coordination so far. Therefore there will propably be no new law all that soon. ".

And the latest info is the press release from the 'Dona Carmen e. V. ' association from July 11th: http://www.donacarmen.de/prostituiertenschutzgesetz-paranoia-grosse-koalition-profiliert-sich-als-stalker/.

Jimmy Boy 99
08-26-15, 19:01
Since I am planning to visit A / O clubs at the end of September, given my history of contracting gonorrhea at the A / O clubs, I am hoping to avoid another incident. Being inspired by a previous poster who took antibiotics as a prophylactic before going to a gang bang at La Luna, I did search and found a study that seems to indicate that Doxycycline 100 MG tablets are pretty effective in preventing STDs: http://journals.lww.com/stdjournal/Fulltext/2015/02000/Doxycycline_Prophylaxis_to_Reduce_Incident.9.aspx#. I requested my doctor give me a prescription for it and he did. I will take them and see if I avoid another incident.

XXL
08-26-15, 19:06
Since I am planning to visit A / O clubs at the end of September, given my history of contracting gonorrhea at the A / O clubs, I am hoping to avoid another incident. Being inspired by a previous poster who took antibiotics as a prophylactic before going to a gang bang at La Luna, I did search and found a study that seems to indicate that Doxycycline 100 MG tablets are pretty effective in preventing STDs: http://journals.lww.com/stdjournal/Fulltext/2015/02000/Doxycycline_Prophylaxis_to_Reduce_Incident.9.aspx#. I requested my doctor give me a prescription for it and he did. I will take them and see if I avoid another incident.The study is about Syphillis.

Gono and chlamydia habe been resistent to doxycycline for some time now.

Free Dude
08-26-15, 19:53
The study is about Syphillis.

Gono and chlamydia habe been resistent to doxycycline for some time now.True for the clap, but Doxi is still one of the two standard treatments for chlamydia.

Jimmy Boy 99
08-26-15, 21:37
The study is about Syphillis.

Gono and chlamydia habe been resistent to doxycycline for some time now.It was: the findings about gonorrhea and chlamydia were fortuitous. As of two years ago, the CDC was recommending Doxycycline or Azithromycin (along with injectable ceftriaxone) as the treatment for gonorrhea: http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/Gonorrhea-Treatment-Guidelines-FactSheet.pdf.

SwingerLover
08-29-15, 00:04
True for the clap,


Gono and chlamydia habe been resistent to doxycycline for some time now.That's quite simply NOT true! So please stop stating facts about stuff you obviously know nothing about!

Larrybambel
09-01-15, 17:20
Dear all,

I'll be end of the week / beginning of the next one in Munich.

Do you have advice / address for AO meeting with escort? Club or whatever?

Many thanks,

L

DouglasAdam
09-02-15, 12:04
AO is illegal in Bavarian P6. So you won't find any offers, probably.


Dear all,

I'll be end of the week / beginning of the next one in Munich.

Do you have advice / address for AO meeting with escort? Club or whatever?

Many thanks,

L

BuffaloJunk
09-02-15, 14:29
So I am going to NRW for my vacation. I have been twice before and am looking to compile an up to date list to make my limited time work efficiently. I really appreciate the feedback you provide on the following clubs. I was hoping for a flatrate AO club, but obviously there are none anymore (I'm assuming that Fun Park is now closed). Also, please let me know if I missed any clubs. Thank you everyone for your help! Also, if anyone will be around between Sept 14th and 18th, let me know and I will buy you a beer! I have a hotel booked in Gelsenkirchen as I have found this to be quite centrally located. Thanks again!

1. Fun Park. I am assuming this is closed now. I have been unable to find a website or location.

2, Freude 39 - I have not been here before but as I have been reading, this may now be the best club for AO. When did it open? Is this still pay per session and what are the prices? Does this club allow smoking inside?

3. Grimberg Sauna. This has been one of my favorite places in the past. I'm assuming it is still pay per session, anyone know the current prices?

4. Arabella. I do not remember being here. Any feedback? Prices? Pay per session? Smoking allowed inside?

5. La Luna. It looks like they moved since I was last here. Any current reviews? I remember they used to have specials for 6 sessions for a flat price. Is this still the case?

6. FKK Villa Venus. I really liked this club when I visited the first time, but my 2nd trip I fee like they ripped me off, as I do not speak German. I may be willing to give them a second chance. What are their prices?

7. FKK Dietzenbach. I have never been here and never heard of it, any feedback? Prices? Is this near Frankfurt, maybe that is why I never heard of it.

8. Villa Romantica. I do not think I have been here. What is the quality and pricing? Do they allow smoking?

Downandup
09-02-15, 20:10
1. Fun Park. I am assuming this is closed now. I have been unable to find a website or location.That's correct, I've searched around and don't think that it has reopened there or relocated.


2, Freude 39 - I have not been here before but as I have been reading, this may now be the best club for AO. When did it open? Is this still pay per session and what are the prices? Does this club allow smoking inside?It's been open for years, but I've only learned it was AO this year. Prices change, a recent post here says 40 entry and 30 per session. Earlier, you paid up front for everything and bought a fixed number of sessions on entry, now I think you pay for sessions as you go. It was smoking friendly as of April when I visited. I'll know better in a fortnight. Be warned that not all the girls do AO so ask before you commit to a session.


7. FKK Dietzenbach. I have never been here and never heard of it, any feedback? Prices? Is this near Frankfurt, maybe that is why I never heard of it.Yes, it is near Frankfurt and far from the other AO clubs, it's the only one in the area I know of.

Christian G
09-03-15, 13:58
2, Freude 39 - I have not been here before but as I have been reading, this may now be the best club for AO. When did it open? Is this still pay per session and what are the prices? Does this club allow smoking inside?

3. Grimberg Sauna. This has been one of my favorite places in the past. I'm assuming it is still pay per session, anyone know the current prices?

4. Arabella. I do not remember being here. Any feedback? Prices? Pay per session? Smoking allowed inside?

6. FKK Villa Venus. I really liked this club when I visited the first time, but my 2nd trip I fee like they ripped me off, as I do not speak German. I may be willing to give them a second chance. What are their prices?

7. FKK Dietzenbach. I have never been here and never heard of it, any feedback? Prices? Is this near Frankfurt, maybe that is why I never heard of it.

8. Villa Romantica. I do not think I have been here. What is the quality and pricing? Do they allow smoking?All this club allowed smoking inside.

Dietezenbach is in Offenabch, around 20/30 by S2 train from Frankfurt Hauptbahnohf. Price is 40 e for entry fee and 30 e for 30 min with the girls.

I visited other RTC last year so I'm not updated about current prices.

Usel1
09-05-15, 10:48
So I am going to NRW for my vacation. I don't know but can can try this one (or one of them).

http://www.m-exclusiv.com/

Some of the girls, e. G. , Ruby and Amira, Freude39, have been working in M-exclusiv.

Patbutter
09-11-15, 04:54
Just returned from NRW a few days ago.

Grimberg and Arabella: 60 euro entry includes session with one girl. Each additional session is 30 euros.

LaLuna: 20 euro entry plus 60 euro for each AO session. They seem to have gangbangs every few months, otherwise the aformentioned price applies.

I would add that I spoke to a German guy in Arabella locker room about the new law. He stated that the two most powerful parties in Germany (Merkel's conservative party as well as the liberal party) support the law to ban AO, gangbangs and flat rate so that it was almost certain it would be passed. The clubs seemed significantly busier than they have when I've visited them during the past 5 years or so, which may reflect that German punters are aware that the good times may be over soon and they'd better enjoy the AO clubs while they can.

Marine One
09-12-15, 03:53
Just returned from NRW a few days ago.

I spoke to a German guy in Arabella locker room about the new law. He stated that the two most powerful parties in Germany (Merkel's conservative party as well as the liberal party) support the law to ban AO, gangbangs and flat rate so that it was almost certain it would be passed. The clubs seemed significantly busier than they have when I've visited them during the past 5 years or so, which may reflect that German punters are aware that the good times may be over soon and they'd better enjoy the AO clubs while they can.Did he say when the law will come into force?

Patbutter
09-20-15, 05:35
Did he say when the law will come into force?Unfortunately I didn't think to ask him.

Downandup
09-20-15, 08:24
Just returned from NRW a few days ago.

Grimberg and Arabella: 60 euro entry includes session with one girl. Each additional session is 30 euros.How is the line up? I've read yesterday that one guy visited Grimberg and left because the women were so bad.

SwingerLover
09-23-15, 20:34
I would add that I spoke to a German guy in Arabella locker room about the new law. He stated that the two most powerful parties in Germany (Merkel's conservative party as well as the liberal party) support the law to ban AO, gangbangs and flat rate so that it was almost certain it would be passed.Clarifications: There's no "liberal party" in the Bundestag at this moment, it's the social demokrats who are forming the coalition with the CDU.

Second: At this point the current concept for a draft law doesn't mention gangbang and flatrate anymore, and there's no AO ban in discussion, but rather a "condom duty" regarding prostitution. (A 'ban'and a 'duty' are legally two completely different things!)

There's already been a discussion about this toppic in the 'Lounge and Chat area' of the Germany FKK Clubs forum; read up there as well.


Did he say when the law will come into force?If at all, then it's supposed to come in effect 6 months after publication. So nothing will happen before April for sure.

Downandup
09-25-15, 21:13
How is the line up? I've read yesterday that one guy visited Grimberg and left because the women were so bad.I'll answer my own question, it was pretty good. As expected the girls are not as good looking as at the top Saunaclubs in the area but not dogs. I had a good time and should have stayed longer.

Wanking
09-26-15, 11:46
Report here suggests refugee women are being forced into prostitution in camps in hoormany for as little as 10 euro, and at that price who would want to pay for a condom!

The dailymail is pretty famous for its bullshit but there may be some truth in this.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3249667/Germany-state-SIEGE-Merkel-cheered-opened-floodgates-migrants-gangs-men-roaming-streets-young-German-women-told-cover-mood-s-changing.html?ito=social-facebook

XXL
09-26-15, 17:48
Report here suggests refugee women are being forced into prostitution in camps in hoormany for as little as 10 euro, and at that price who would want to pay for a condom!/URL]BS! How could refugee women prostitute when the percentage of prostitutionable women among refugees is a few percent at most.

According to one count, refugees are 13% women & children, 97% males. It's not Thai males who are flocking to Germany, it's Arabs who left their young women behind for a reason.

What could happen though is that those men start seeking prostitutes in Germany, pushing up demand.

Marine One
09-27-15, 02:34
Second: At this point . . . there's no AO ban in discussion, but rather a "condom duty" regarding prostitution. (A 'ban'and a 'duty' are legally two completely different things!).Can you clarify what that means? I read in the papers that there will be fines for the brothel owner as well as the clients if condoms are not used. I don't see much practical difference between a ban and a duty if that's the case. Like speeding in your car is "banned" and the penalty is to pay a duty (speeding ticket.) Or did you mean something else?

Jimmy Boy 99
10-01-15, 22:28
Had last been to the club in June 2014 when it was still Club Angelique in Viersen. Noted then in a post that Kathi was looking a little haggard and the other girls also deteriorating. Based on all the rave reports about the girls in the new club in Moers, I decided to visit it. Arrived about 12:45 PM. Paid entry, changed, and went to bar to have my breakfast (apple pie that I brought with me). On the way to the bar, I saw Kathi standing by the door of a room for a minute. Barely recognized her, as she looked even more haggard and worn out than two years ago. She is fucking herself into a frazzle. Didn't see her again the rest of the time I was there. The other 5 girls did not seem that impressive at first sight.

Was impressed by the coffee machine, as I was expecting the usual coffee urn. Had three cappuccinos with my pie. I then showered and went to seriously look at the girls. All except one were not young, not very pretty, and somewhat chubby. The exception was presumably Miruna, but even she had a hard, not sweet, face, and would been my 5th or 6th choice at Villa Venus. I sat staring at them for about 15 minutes wondering why I should pay to fuck them when I could fuck Marianne, Jasmin, Michaela (the young, non-anal one), and Anna Maria, who were all far better looking, at VV, for half the price. I finally decided that it was stupid to do so and left, to the apparent surprise and bewilderment of the girls and the receptionist.

The members who would fuck the girls at this club over the girls at VV, and pay double for the privilege of doing so, have obviously very different tastes than me. I probably drank 5 Euros worth of cappuccinos, so I only wasted 15 Euro and half an hour. Unless you can drink 20 Euros worth of cappuccinos and have lots of time to kill, don't bother with this club.

IlsArm
10-01-15, 23:11
Sandra from Viersen, who has appeared many times on Swinger Lover's AO calendar, has an interesting approach to the proposed new AO law on her website:

http://sandraprivat.liebesdienste.net/service.html

She will continue to offer AO, but won't advertise it and won't discuss it over the phone. She will only discuss it in person. So she will in future essentially be relying on word of mouth to let it be known that she offers AO. I suppose it's a sensible approach, if the law ever comes in and includes a ban on advertising AO.

In the meantime, though, she's having a schlammschieben gangbang with Nicki from Duisburg on Tuesday 6 October, which is unfortunately a couple of weeks too early for my next trip to Germany, but if anyone else goes, I'd love to hear a report.

http://gangbang.liebesdienste.net

SwingerLover
10-05-15, 13:58
Can you clarify what that means? I read in the papers that there will be fines for the brothel owner as well as the clients if condoms are not used. I don't see much practical difference between a ban and a duty if that's the case. Like speeding in your car is "banned" and the penalty is to pay a duty (speeding ticket.) Or did you mean something else?First up: Don't believe anything you read in the papers on this matter! They have been unreliable in the past, spreading only half-truths and assumptions. I don't think that it's become much better this time. I only believe official papers, like the "Referentenentwurf" from late July, to which I posted a link already and which is to my knowledge still the latest official news.

The difference between a ban and a duty is a legal technicality. An AO ban would not include BBBJs, a condom duty would. Another difference is best explained by a comparison to alcohol prohibition: There's a difference whether they would prohibit alcoholic beverages on the one side or on the other side were forcing people to drink alcohol-free beer by implementing an 'alcohol-free beer duty', which would even apply to people who don't like beer at all. Besides: It's ludicrous to prohibit having sex the natural way by inventing a 'condom duty'. Not to mention that such a 'condom duty' is completely uninforceable. What are they going to do? Sit in the room and watch?


has an interesting approach to the proposed new AO law on her website:
She will continue to offer AO, but won't advertise it and won't discuss it over the phone. She will only discuss it in person. So she will in future essentially be relying on word of mouth to let it be known that she offers AO. I suppose it's a sensible approach, if the law ever comes in and includes a ban on advertising AO.She's done that since March, it's only know, when it became clear that there would be no law in effect for at least another 6 months, that she started advertising again. She was one of those who fell for the stupid newspaper propaganda half a year ago and needlessly stopped advertising for AO back then.

To summarize: The "law", should it be passed, is supposed to become effective 6 months after it's published. So nothing will happen before May anyway. Gangbang and Flatrate are not even mentioned anymore (at least I didn't see it while scrolling through the text).

The latest news are some statements from various organisations: http://aidshilfe.de/de/aktuelles/meldungen/prostituiertenschutzgesetz-neue-gefahren-statt-schutz.

To my surprise even the 'Deutsche AIDS-Hilfe' is AGAINST (!) a condom duty! http://www.aidshilfe.de/sites/default/files/2015-09-11_PrSchG_DAH-Stellungnahme_final.pdf.

Of course they are still not advocating AO, but are against a generally forced 'condum duty' by law. This is the last group from which I would have expected any support against a 'condom duty'. If even they are against it, then I'd really like to know why this matter is still open for discussion. Kill the 'condom duty'!

Usel1
10-06-15, 23:13
Hi dudes!

Any type of club like that in Stuttgart area?

Dietz is far away.

Thanks.

Saucehollandaise
10-23-15, 10:45
To my surprise even the 'Deutsche AIDS-Hilfe' is AGAINST (!) a condom duty! http://www.aidshilfe.de/sites/default/files/2015-09-11_PrSchG_DAH-Stellungnahme_final.pdf.

Of course they are still not advocating AO, but are against a generally forced 'condum duty' by law. This is the last group from which I would have expected any support against a 'condom duty'. If even they are against it, then I'd really like to know why this matter is still open for discussion. Kill the 'condom duty'!I think they have the fear that a ban will make the AO scene much more "underground" which will without any doubt result in less people who want to be tested, thereby increasing the chance of spreading of VD in general and AIDS in particular.

Myrrh
11-18-15, 00:50
I am just thinking that Charlie Sheen might also have been a reader of these AO pages because he, like many on here, was of the belief apparently that it was impossible to get HIV even if you barebacked hundreds of prostitutes.

Dreams
11-18-15, 11:41
I am just thinking that Charlie Sheen might also have been a reader of these AO pages because he, like many on here, was of the belief apparently that it was impossible to get HIV even if you barebacked hundreds of prostitutes.Nothing to do with prostitutes, he got it through IV drugs and contact wth similar addicted people.

Breadman
11-18-15, 12:07
I am just thinking that Charlie Sheen might also have been a reader of these AO pages because he, like many on here, was of the belief apparently that it was impossible to get HIV even if you barebacked hundreds of prostitutes.Guy had a big drug problem, a shared needle might have been the culprit.

PvtMike
11-18-15, 13:01
Do the STD / STI tests that Germany require for sex workers include Herpes (HSV2)?

Myrrh
11-28-15, 22:00
I am not sure whether this is the right place for this however I could not find any appropriate threads in the 'special interests' part of the forum.

I seemed to have noticed a lot more discussion of squirting on here with some girls advertised at gangbangs in the German AO threads as specifically providing this service. I am not a fan to be honest. Neither am I of other 'fringe' practices like fisting and NS.

Perhaps the German AO forum is better than others for this to be discussed as Germans seem to be keener on these sort of practices than perhaps other nations.

Fisting: I first came across this when I used to attend swinger parties in the UK where the typical women there were MILFs whose pussies had become so stretched through child birth and age that a normal penis no longer provided the filling required. So a fist or even an arm was a better substitute. But what was in it for the man? Apart from maybe gaining pleasure from the fact that he was turning the woman on. After all there aren't that many nerve endings at the end of a fist otherwise boxers would be having orgasms after each and every round. When it comes to sticking my big fist or my littler penis into a woman I know which one I would prefer.

NS: I have seen this in more German porn videos than in the porn from other countries. Also I was at a Spermagames AO event about a year ago where Bonita de Sax was one of the performers. At the end of the event she went and sat down inside a shower cubicle. A group of guys gather round the door of the shower cubicle and a couple of them let spray. I had never seen this in real life before so was keen to see whether it would turn me on. It didn't. She was coughing, spluttering and snorting as the stuff went up her nose. Constantly blowing through her nose to try and clear it. Then there was that distinctive odor which I immediately recognized. I found the whole thing frankly disgusting and I had thought that I was fairly broadminded. There has been mention of this sort of thing occasionally in reports from other similar parties in the past. Again I didn't see how the males involved derived their pleasure from this other than from the thought that they were 'degrading' a woman. A sort of power trip. Also I suppose the 'release' sensation is a little bit similar to that when you cum but obviously not on the same scale.

Squirting: As mentioned there has been much mention of this at recent parties that have taken place. Spermagames and GB01 parties over the past few weeks have frequently included one woman who was advertised as providing this service. Again I don't see the attraction. There have been reports from guys on here who seemed wildly excited that a woman exploded over them and sprayed half the room as well. Some, like myself, are still not completely convinced that this is actually female cum but instead perhaps a different kind of 'fluid'. Sperm looks like sperm whereas a woman's cum looks like you-know-what. In any case where is the pleasure to be derived for the man. I get pleasure when I cum. I couldn't care less about whether the woman does especially if am paying her. Also when I cum girls, even if I am paying, are normally keen to avoid the stuff getting anywhere near them whereas some guys on here appear to want to wallow in the stuff if it comes out of a woman.

Optimist
11-29-15, 12:28
Do the STD / STI tests that Germany require for sex workers include Herpes (HSV2)?Sex workers in Germany are NOT legally required to be tested.

Myrrh
11-29-15, 15:25
I am making plans for Christmas and New Year and I am considering spending that period in Germsmany.

I was just wondering whether anyone definitely knew whether any AO clubs will be open on the days of Christmas and New Year's eve itself. Also perhaps the days in between.

By AO clubs I mean the red carpet clubs (RTC) or La Luna. For apartment parties it would be difficult to say whether there would be any happening as they normally only advertise a few days before the event. Party clubs like Spermagames and GB01 have already advertised their dates for December and do not have anything planned for those two days so I am assuming that this is not going to change.

With the 'AO ban' law originally supposed to have come into force at the end of this year, I had always planned for this year to be my last hurrah on the AO front as the situation may well be very different in terms of AO for Christmas / New Year in 2016.

If there are no AO clubs open then I would consider partytreffs and even FKKs. Does anyone know if these are likely to be open on those days?

I could spend Christmas the traditional way with the family or friends but I would rather be banging the new year in at some party rather than standing in some wet, cold, city street somewhere looking at fireworks.

Also, rather than basting the turkey on Christmas day would prefer instead to be turkey basting some young Romanian / Bulgarian chicks with my baby batter.

DFWdude
11-30-15, 01:58
I am making plans for Christmas and New Year and I am considering spending that period in Germsmany.

I was just wondering whether anyone definitely knew whether any AO clubs will be open on the days of Christmas and New Year's eve itself. Also perhaps the days in between.

By AO clubs I mean the red carpet clubs (RTC) or La Luna. For apartment parties it would be difficult to say whether there would be any happening as they normally only advertise a few days before the event. Party clubs like Spermagames and GB01 have already advertised their dates for December and do not have anything planned for those two days so I am assuming that this is not going to change.

With the 'AO ban' law originally supposed to have come into force at the end of this year, I had always planned for this year to be my last hurrah on the AO front as the situation may well be very different in terms of AO for Christmas / New Year in 2016.From what I remember most Germans celebrate Christmas on Christmas Eve. Thats said most of the girls that work in the clubs are Romanian and thus would celebrate the "Orthodox Christmas" which is some two weeks later. So there may be some, but some will be gone as well.

Usel1
12-01-15, 01:43
From what I remember most Germans celebrate Christmas on Christmas Eve. Thats said most of the girls that work in the clubs are Romanian and thus would celebrate the "Orthodox Christmas" which is some two weeks later. So there may be some, but some will be gone as well.Some Romenian are catholics (30-35%) but Christmas even if "Orthodox" is celebrated on 25th as well.

More Eastern countries such as Ukraine, Russia, both Orthodox, celebrate Christmas on 7th January.

Anyway, for what I know, in this time of the year, girls prefer to spend holiday at home.

I got the chance to inform also that Easter sometimes happens as for Catholic, sometimes (as last year) 2 weeks later.

Romenian girls both Cath or Ort., feel a lot that celebration , overseas too, but it takes fron Sat.eve till Sunday...

Anyway, I realized their most inportant religion is €€€€€ which let them overcome celebrations...
:-)

PvtMike
12-01-15, 03:10
I will be making my first trip to Germany soon (my first trip abroad actually) and I just wanted to thank everyone here for the wealth of information and answers you've provided.

I was thinking about attending the Dec. 7th party with Sexy Susi and Gundula Pervers (http://www.sexy-susi.info/Seite5n.php), but I won't be surprised if I chicken out.

It's probably too ambitious of a goal given that I only know a dozen words in German (excluding the dirty ones hah) and how to sing the German alphabet.

I mean I haven't even mastered basic interactions in German, how the hell do I expect to get through the door and into the party without feeling like an idiot?

But anyways, even if I don't get to check "GB party with pornstar" off my checklist, there's lots of other things I'm sure to be checking off on my to do list thanks to everyone here at ISG.

SwingerLover
12-03-15, 23:05
I was thinking about attending the Dec. 7th party with Sexy Susi and Gundula Pervers (http://www.sexy-susi.info/Seite5n.php), but I won't be surprised if I chicken out.

It's probably too ambitious of a goal given that I only know a dozen words in German (excluding the dirty ones hah) and how to sing the German alphabet.

I mean I haven't even mastered basic interactions in German, how the hell do I expect to get through the door and into the party without feeling like an idiot?Don't worry about that. Getting in won't be a problem, and once you're inside, both Gundula and Susi's doctor-husband (who's doing the tests at her AO events) speak English.

As for Susi: If she screams "Saaaahne!", that translates as "cream". If she says "Ich vertrockne!" (translates as "I'm drying out!), it means that she wants more cum.

"Schwanz verloren" means "dick lost" and is uttered if said dick slides out of her pussy during fucking. You should then just put it back in.

Done. Have fun!

Neurosynth
12-04-15, 06:57
I will be making my first trip to Germany soon (my first trip abroad actually) and I just wanted to thank everyone here for the wealth of information and answers you've provided.

I was thinking about attending the Dec. 7th party with Sexy Susi and Gundula Pervers (http://www.sexy-susi.info/Seite5n.php), but I won't be surprised if I chicken out.Is this sure to be AO? I land that day, and if not dreadfully lagged would be interested.

SwingerLover
12-05-15, 14:44
Susi's own parties are always AO. Her doctor-husband does the test on-site and will even give you a written result, which you can use at other parties as well.

Neurosynth
12-05-15, 19:51
Susi's own parties are always AO. Her doctor-husband does the test on-site and will even give you a written result, which you can use at other parties as well.Thanks! Realistically though after an intercontinental flight I'll probably be too tired to do all that driving from Frankfurt AND have something left for the gangbang.

I fly out the next day so if I make it to Dietzenbach that evening I'll be doing well.

Leifeide
12-06-15, 10:32
Susi's own parties are always AO. Her doctor-husband does the test on-site and will even give you a written result, which you can use at other parties as well.Susi's own parties are always AO, but when Susi make parties in clubs like Dolce Vita in Wagenfeld and similar, they are normally always covered. Nice to know this to avoid disappointments. For those who like it as sloppy as possible, I recommend to attend to Susi's film parties. They are incredibly great!

SwingerLover
12-13-15, 21:00
Susi's own parties are always AO, but when Susi make parties in clubs like Dolce Vita in Wagenfeld and similar, they are normally always covered. That's because those parties like in Wagenfeld or in Dorsten are NOT Susi's own parties and are therefore not AO!

Okay, I admit it's hard to tell those parties apart, but it's possible if you know how to read her homepage. Usually her own parties are posted under "Orgien" as well as under "Termine". Everything that shows up under "Orgien" is usually AO with the Doc doing the tests. Everything else is usually covered, unless it's an AO event from another organizer (like Spermabang, GGG or such).

Wanking
12-15-15, 03:02
I wanted to have bareback sex with prostitutes long before I actually did. Of course in the 80's and 90's AIDS was thee huge scare, rumor had it at the time that most working girls had it, and you could probably get from just looking at her Vageena!!!

Such was my fear of HIV, after my first trip to Amsterdam in 1991, where I only had covered mechanical sex with Window girls I actually went to my family Doctor for an AIDS test, but he laughingly talked me out of it, stating that he believed even if a man had bareback sex he was very unlikely to become HIV positive, and the fact that I had used condoms meant it was a very remote chance if any.

Over the next few years I had bareback sex with some regular girlfriends, plus lots of covered sex with hoors. Around 1995, I was back in the Dam for a solo trip. I was fucking this gorgeous blonde Window girl doggy style and the condom disintegrated, I got tremendously excited being bare inside the forbidden fruit, I continued to pump away and came deep inside her. She only clocked it when I pulled out. Amazingly she didn't freak out. I remember walking out of there feeling absolutely fantastic, but over the following days and weeks I was shitting a brick that I might have caught the big disease. When I got home I called the STI clinic, they told me to wait 3 months, so lots of nervous waiting, then more nervous waiting for the results after the test. When I finally got the results after a couple of weeks, I was jumping with joy having escaped the Plague. I swore I would be careful from now on, and if a johnny broke ever again, I would change it straight away.

1997, first trip to Thailand enroute to Australia for a year. First thing I did in Bangkok was go for a massage. Tiny little girl, maybe 30 kgs, she started a regular massage but I was so horny, I hopped off the table and stripped her off. Put her down on the table and licked her deep before fucking her bareback deep and hard. She bled all over my dick. Period she said. Fuck I was convinced I had definitely caught AIDS this time. Arrived in Sydney after a few weeks, went to the STI clinic, explained my story. They told me to wait 3 months and come back. More nervous waiting, went for the test after the 3 months and all clear again.

Had a long term relationship from 97 to 2000 , but still fucked lots of Hoors. 2001 spent a year in Czech Republic and Latvia. Did a lot of hoors in both those countries but also some regular girls bareback.

In 2005 I started travelling to Germany for Sex trips. Alot of girls in FKKs let me rub my barecock off their pussy, but not put it inside. I was now very comfortable with the idea of having bareback sex with prostitutes but it was still very taboo to discuss it on this forum.

To be continued.

Myrrh
12-15-15, 23:25
Around 1995, I was back in the Dam for a solo trip. I was fucking this gorgeous blonde Window girl doggy style and the condom disintegrated, I got tremendously excited being bare inside the forbidden fruit, I continued to pump away and came deep inside her. She only clocked it when I pulled out. So that is why every since that time ho's in the Amsterdam RLD will only ever shag in one position, missionary, so that they can see what the guy is doing. Also, will always leave two fingers between their crotch to hold the condom in place so that the guy ends us shagging the hand instead of the woman. Wanking, you've got a lot to answer for!

Gggfan
12-19-15, 19:47
Hi all,

Travelling to Germany in January, and was planning to take part to a Spermagames party. Unfortunately, Spermagames has no event planned during my stay. Looking for massive AO gangbangs. As for now, I only see two events (yeah, I know it's still early. But anyway the big AO gangbangs are always organised by the same) organised by gb01 :
- one in Studio 11 - Bremen with Mia Bang (AO / NS) & Jenny Smart (AO).
- one in Hannover with Emila Flower (AO) und Tara Sky (AO).

If I was to choose bewteen these two events (still some hope for another event to come up until then) which one would you advice?

Seivel
12-20-15, 02:17
Hi all, (still some hope for another event to come up until then) which one would you advice?Tuesday 12 Jan. With Bonita de Sax.

Saterday 16 Jan. With Gundula Pervers.

Both partys at Villa Frivol in Wallenhorst.

There will also be 1 or 2 girls more, but both Bonita and Gundula, are great performers.

Neurosynth
12-20-15, 10:17
That is all.

Gggfan
12-20-15, 10:33
Hi all,

Travelling to Germany in January, and was planning to take part to a Spermagames party. Unfortunately, Spermagames has no event planned during my stay. Looking for massive AO gangbangs. As for now, I only see two events (yeah, I know it's still early. But anyway the big AO gangbangs are always organised by the same) organised by gb01 :
- one in Studio 11 - Bremen with Mia Bang (AO / NS) & Jenny Smart (AO).
- one in Hannover with Emila Flower (AO) und Tara Sky (AO).

If I was to choose bewteen these two events (still some hope for another event to come up until then) which one would you advice?Approx dates are 20 to 23rd of Jan.

Neurosynth
12-20-15, 10:56
Looks like LL is available on the 14th and 19th.

Wanking
12-25-15, 16:30
And a great year of Arsche Lecken in 2016 to all 😁.

Usel1
12-25-15, 20:03
Viersen. Dammweg 6.

http://www.fickanzeiger.com/clubs/index.php?id=1450919864

Pics look fake.

Tagesticket 20 Euro.

(Eröffnungsangebot bis 31.12.), warme Speisen, alkoholfreie Getränke und unbegrenzter Aufenthalt inklusive.

Full-Service.

1 x15,2 x30,3 x45.

Discount. Too.

Saucehollandaise
12-26-15, 14:26
According to one count, refugees are 13% women & children, 97% males. That makes 110%.

SwingerLover
12-26-15, 17:10
Viersen. Dammweg 6.As one can deduce from the ad: This is not a flatrate offer, since the only 20 € is the entrance fee, including drinks. Looks like you'll then have to pay 15 € for each session. There's not a word about gangbang or group action, and whether "Full Service" includes AO remains to be seen. I for one am not interested in driving there to find out, especially since the pics are propably fake.

Member #4360
12-27-15, 19:18
Didn't see an F39 thread, mods feel free to move this post.

Made my way from Frankfurt to Dusseldorf early this morning, pulled in at 9 am, got to the station by 11:15 and then took a 12 e taxi to the club.

First impression was that F39 is much larger than Dietz, maybe twice the size? Weirdly most of the couches are facing forward (like a movie theater), so it's more difficult to check everyone out like you can do at Dietz.

Yup. There are side couches, but that's awkward too. Love the facilities. Steam room, sauna, foot bath, massage. The food was a bit better, the ambiance a bit worse (to me).

Only had one large screen of porn in main room, one in kino, and one in side room. I prefer the. Where all around are screens. I didn't understand the kino bit. Gangbanging? All day all I saw is one older dude who went in there to play with his junk and see if anyone was watching him play with his junk. And then a few other guys sleeping.

In general F39 had an older crowd, and less customers than the. Did.

Girls.

I thought the. Has a better lineup currently. I think F39 has more girls (maybe 5+ more?) but there were a few more chunkier girls as well, which sort of brought the entire aesthetic down.

There were 4 super slim hotties (bodies not faces) but this time I didn't go for any of them. Instead took the thicker girls (not fat. But well, maybe fat. Ha). Wasn't looking for my dream girl, just fun girls interested in giving good service.

Three slightly annoying issues:

1) took one girl who said she does anal (on picture too). Haven't done it in 20+ years (not my kink) but thought. When in Rome. When we actually got down to it she said 'stop' and reached in her bag and pulled out a condom, told me it 'feels better this way'.

Ha. I told her I would cum on her back. And she said. No, a condom for anal because 'bacteria'. Her body so whatever, respect that. No problem just fucking her pussy and CIP. However I had gone for 30 min instead of 20 just for the anal. So she got an additional 20 out of me.

2) 20 min for 30 e vs 30 min at the. Makes a huge difference. 20 min means clock watching, 30 min means relaxed (to me). Why it jumps to 50 e for 30 min I have no idea. Logically it should be 45 e or a discount (40 e) - shrug.

3) at the. When finished (even before the 30 min) was free to leave. But here the girls all wanted to stay for the full allotted time, said it was a 'problem for them' if they came out early? Sort of boring once your done to sit there play when you're dying for some water and a shower.

I would detail the 5 I shagged today but really it's the same scenario and service each and every time.

- Sit on couch, blah blah, kiss, BJ.

- Move to room eat pussy, BJ, fuck, position, position, first position. Cross.

- kiss, walk to locker, pay, kiss, look fondly at each other.

- shower, sit on couch wait for refractory period to end and pick next victim while you watch the gal you just shagged get taken off by next bloke.

Overall it was such an excellent experience, I have nothing terribly negative to say. I've plumbed 15 girls in 3 days so I'm just getting a little numb, not to mention the endless hours spent watching naked women and porno TV.

It's like putting the kid in closet with carton of cigarettes.

Will never hit the RLD again, who wants to fuck with the killer stairs, bad attitudes, thugs, druggies, and more expensive prices (for BB) when you can relax in a club and have it all.

Left early today (6 pm) just cause had enough boom boom. Can't believe that clubs like this exist and work so hard to give great service. F39 is excellent.

Dreams
12-28-15, 05:20
Viersen. Dammweg 6.

http://www.fickanzeiger.com/clubs/index.php?id=1450919864

Pics look fake.

Tagesticket 20 Euro.

(Erffnungsangebot bis 31.12.), warme Speisen, alkoholfreie Getrnke und unbegrenzter Aufenthalt inklusive.

Full-Service.

1 x15,2 x30,3 x45.

Discount. Too.Only 15 E a session? I would worry that this is close to slavery.

Vito Corleone
12-28-15, 10:35
Another excellent TR Ghostluv!

Since you overpaid at Dietz, I assume the ridiculous prices of 50€ for thirty min didn't bother you? Didn't bother when they bumped up the price to 40€ & wouldn't bother now. Nothing there worth 40€ & now they raise it to 50€ Just boggles the mind.

Myrrh
12-28-15, 15:52
Hey GLuv,

It's great to get a fresh perspective from a new set of eyes rather than from some on here who's vision may have become clouded because they have become attached to particular girls or clubs and so are no longer able to see things objectively. My comments below in bold.


Didn't see an F39 thread, mods feel free to move this post.
You didn't see a F39 thread even though F39 is an FKK club and has it's own thread in the FKK section. You did however see 5 'super hot' women at Dietz.

Weirdly most of the couches are facing forward (like a movie theater), so it's more difficult to check everyone out like you can do at Dietz. Yup. There are side couches, but that's awkward too.
Strange, because Dietz has banks of seats in the middle with their backs to each other which makes it difficult to see the rest of the club. Also the club is so dark that unless you are sitting at the adjacent couch you are not able to see what is happening in detail at any other couch let alone the shadows near the back. F39 is relatively brightly lit and if you sit on the side couches particularly on the raised bank to the right as you walk in the main room then you can get a panoramic view everywhere else in the club with the exception of the Kino. F39 also has glass walls so you can also see into the reception area from the main room.

Love the facilities. Steam room, sauna, foot bath, massage. The food was a bit better, the ambiance a bit worse (to me).
Been to this place several times but never enquired about a massage. Was it given by some thick, hairy forearmed Turkish guy?

Only had one large screen of porn in main room, one in kino, and one in side room. I prefer the. Where all around are screens. I didn't understand the kino bit. Gangbanging? All day all I saw is one older dude who went in there to play with his junk and see if anyone was watching him play with his junk. And then a few other guys sleeping...Again a valuable trip report and I hope that you will take my comments above in good spirit.

Maxime
12-28-15, 19:19
Thanks for the F39 report, should be moved to here: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2608-FKK-Club-Freudenbergstr-39.

Myrrh
12-28-15, 19:22
Does anyone know of any New Years Eve or Sylvester / Silvester AO parties that are happening on 31 December?

Or if any red carpet, AO gangbang or swinger clubs will be open at midnight that day?

Would dearly love to bare bang the new year in especially if this might be the last full year before any new laws come into force, which may mean that this year is the last where it is possible to celebrate the new year in this sort of fashion.

SwingerLover
12-29-15, 01:15
Only 15 E a session? I would worry that this is close to slavery.Why? Before FunPark was an all-you-can-fuck flatrate Club, where you could fuck 6-8 women as often as possible for 80 € during at least 10 hours, snacks and drinks included. If I convert the value of my FunPark parties to the current prices, then the price has more than doubled. Thanks, bot no thanks! Even Spermagames parties would be cheaper now.

This new concept in Viersen is only good for guys who go there for a quick poke or two. For me it's not acceptable, also bearing in mind the quality of club, women and food. Compared to before, this place is now ridiculously overprized.

Vito Corleone
12-29-15, 08:14
The massage guy has been there since they re-opened. Located in the far back rooms. There's a complete menu with prices. He walks around the club with a white shirt with massage in red on the back.

Usel1
01-01-16, 19:22
I suppose only Freude39 is on.

Romantika, Arabella, Villa Venus, Verena closed till, may be, 11th January?

Grimberg? Any news'.

Thanks a lot for any sure info.

Gggfan
01-01-16, 20:54
Hi all,

Travelling to Germany in January, and was planning to take part to a Spermagames party. Unfortunately, Spermagames has no event planned during my stay. Looking for massive AO gangbangs. As for now, I only see two events (yeah, I know it's still early. But anyway the big AO gangbangs are always organised by the same) organised by gb01 :
- one in Studio 11 - Bremen with Mia Bang (AO / NS) & Jenny Smart (AO).
- one in Hannover with Emila Flower (AO) und Tara Sky (AO).
If I was to choose bewteen these two events (still some hope for another event to come up until then) which one would you advice?


THU 21st 16-19:00: Exclusive AO / Safe Gangbang event with attractive blonde Devota (42,1 m64,66 kg, 75 F cups) in a hotel suite in Dusseldorf. http://www.fickanzeiger.com/sexparty...?id=1451397065.
THU 21st 16-20:00: AO Filmparty with Melanie Moon at Villa am See in Kaiserslautern for 45 + 20 for HIV-test. http://melaniemoon.net/Seite1001/Events-amp;-Termine.
THU 21st 19-23:00: Filmed "I'll be back" mandatory-AO gangbang party with Rinata near Dortmund for 50 , including food & drinks. http://gang-bang-party.com/com/2016/...ilmproduktion/.
SAT 23rd 19-22:00: AO Gangbang with "marijana1967" (magicmarijana) at Blue Movie, 6 kaufhaus at Hochstr. 11 in 47798 Krefeld for free, except the around 8 entrance fee to the Kino. http://www.eronity.com/event.php?id=7161&rid=00364521.What a shame! My available dates happen to be just when there are no Spermagames parties. Available 20 & 21 of Jan. (and 23 only if great opportunity).

The events listed for those dates are not top notch (unless I am mistaking) considering that I fancy the kind of parties organised by Spermagames (several girls, a lot of sperm / creampie, a fair amount of time. And no, 19th is not an option). There are two events organised by gb01, but not sure of the type of event nor the quality (what is gb01 production?

- AO / Safe Produktion I'm Studio 11 mit 2 Top Girls. Mia Bang (AO / NS) & Jenny Smart (AO) : http://www.p-p-p.tv/details_event.php?id=835.

- Hannover wir kommen mit 2 Top Girls mit Emila Flower (AO) und Tara Sky (AO) : http://www.p-p-p.tv/details_event.php?id=834

Maxime
01-02-16, 12:33
I suppose only Freude39 is on.

Romantika, Arabella, Villa Venus, Verena closed till, may be, 11th January?

Grimberg? Any news'.

Thanks a lot for any sure info.Yeaterday only 13 girls present in F39, and full of men. Probably this was even better then in other clubs. Remmeber guys, between end of December and mid of January it is NO good time to visit a club, exceptions (like in Zurich) aside, and if you don't care to be in a gay club.


The massage guy has been there since they re-opened. Located in the far back rooms. There's a complete menu with prices. He walks around the club with a white shirt with massage in red on the back.Indeed, and sometimes it is a massage lady instead!

Maxime
01-02-16, 12:37
What a shame! My available dates happen to be just when there are no Spermagames parties. Available 20 & 21 of Jan. (and 23 only if great opportunity).

The events listed for those dates are not top notch (unless I am mistaking) considering that I fancy the kind of parties organised by Spermagames (several girls, a lot of sperm / creampie, a fair amount of time. And no, 19th is not an option). There are two events organised by gb01, but not sure of the type of event nor the quality (what is gb01 production?

- AO / Safe Produktion I'm Studio 11 mit 2 Top Girls. Mia Bang (AO / NS) & Jenny Smart (AO) : http://www.p-p-p.tv/details_event.php?id=835.

- Hannover wir kommen mit 2 Top Girls mit Emila Flower (AO) und Tara Sky (AO) : http://www.p-p-p.tv/details_event.php?id=834In my opinion the GB01 parties are much better then of SG (too many men and many "old" girls, which some men on this forum seem to like, but hey, everybody his own taste).

GB01 is more relaxed, don't expect big crowds, but a smaller group of men. 2 of the 4 girls you mention I know: Elina Flower is ok (but has siliconen) and Tara Sky is super! Jenny and Mia are relatively new, but look very good. Performance of almost all GB01 girls is good, so depending on your taste you can choose. Pity you can make it the day before where all 4 girls are present!

SwingerLover
01-02-16, 12:48
That's too bad that your dates are just during the time when there's neither a Spermagames nor a Spermabang event. Both GB01 events seem to be happening simultaneously and each with 2 AO women, which I don't quite understand. Why don't they do a 4-women party at the same place instead?

The only difference between the 2 events (different women aside) could be that the party in Hannover might not be filmed, whereas the 'production' at Sudio 11 in Stuhr will definitely be filmed.

Aside from all that, you can only hope that something else will show up until the 20th, but I think that chances of getting a party with more than 2 women are slim. You can keep an eye on Villa Frivol during the next weeks: http://gb-porn.de/index.php/events.

I'm pretty certain that some of the chicks in MG, the or Viersen will do an AO party somewhere between the 20th and 23rd as well, but those are usually advertised at short notice, and I seriously doubt that those would be your taste if you are accustomed to Spermagames parties.

Gggfan
01-02-16, 20:27
Thanks to you both Maxime and SwingerLover.


That's too bad that your dates are just during the time when there's neither a Spermagames nor a Spermabang event. Both GB01 events seem to be happening simultaneously and each with 2 AO women, which I don't quite understand. Why don't they do a 4-women party at the same place instead?
The only difference between the 2 events (different women aside) could be that the party in Hannover might not be filmed, whereas the 'production' at Sudio 11 in Stuhr will definitely be filmed.Yes, weird that they launch two different parties on the same day.

The production being filmed and the line-up would push me to choose the production at Studio 11 in Stuhr.


Elina Flower is ok (but has siliconen) and Tara Sky is super! Jenny and Mia are relatively new, but look very good. Performance of almost all GB01 girls is good, so depending on your taste you can choose. Pity you can make it the day before where all 4 girls are present!Jenny Smart did a strong appearance on a GGG title recently released (even if I am not a big fan of the GGG prods they shoot nowadays).


Aside from all that, you can only hope that something else will show up until the 20th, but I think that chances of getting a party with more than 2 women are slim. You can keep an eye on Villa Frivol during the next weeks: http://gb-porn.de/index.php/events.
I'm pretty certain that some of the chicks in MG, the or Viersen will do an AO party somewhere between the 20th and 23rd as well, but those are usually advertised at short notice, and I seriously doubt that those would be your taste if you are accustomed to Spermagames parties.I will keep an eye on the calendar and the events that might show up, but I stated I am accustomed to Spermagames parties, therefore I am looking for something similar in terms of quality.


In my opinion the GB01 parties are much better then of SG (too many men and many "old" girls, which some men on this forum seem to like, but hey, everybody his own taste).I attended both GB01 and Spermagames. To be honest I liked both. Lately my schedule only allowed me to take part to SpermaGames.

The GB01 event on the 20th seems to be different as it is a "production" (as opposed to a gangbang / party with 3+ girls) and I do not know what to expect. I mean I go to these events for AO gangbangs, not for single porn scenes with 1 girls and 3/4 guys.

Vito Corleone
01-02-16, 22:45
Yeaterday only 13 girls present in F39, and full of men. Probably this was even better then in other clubs. Remmeber guys, between end of December and mid of January it is NO good time to visit a club, exceptions (like in Zurich) aside, and if you don't care to be in a gay club.

Indeed, and sometimes it is a massage lady instead!There's a lady now? Haven't been there since August.

Maxime
01-03-16, 11:50
At gggfan: be aware: Elina Flower is replaced by Kadisha Latin on the coming GB01 parties, which seems an improvement!

SwingerLover
01-07-16, 22:29
Aside from all that, you can only hope that something else will show up until the 20th, but I think that chances of getting a party with more than 2 women are slim. You can keep an eye on Villa Frivol during the next weeks: http://gb-porn.de/index.php/events.Well, the dates for Villa Frivol are on their website now, so you could consider going there on SAT 23rd for the party with Lulu & Bonita de Sax.

Gggfan
01-08-16, 18:50
Well, the dates for Villa Frivol are on their website now, so you could consider going there on SAT 23rd for the party with Lulu & Bonita de Sax.There is also a party with Lulu and "ihre Freundin" the 20 from 3 pm to 7 pm.

Never attended a Villa Frivol party, so do not know what to expect. The few reports rate this venue and the organisers rather poorly.

Anyway Thanks SwingerLover!

As for the gb01 event, it says:


Gedreht werden an dem Tag viele geile Porno Szenen (vielleicht mal ein dreier oder ne Bukkake) . Bei dieser Veranstaltung handelt es sich nicht um keine Gangbang oder Sexparty!Here again, do not know what to expect.

Maybe my best for now would be gb01 event with Kadisha Latin and Tara Sky.

Will see in the coming days before making a decision.

Sergeant Major
01-09-16, 01:07
Hi guys,

Couldn't find a proper thread about Frankfurt?

Is there a club worth to visit near Frankfurt? I am looking for a gangbang type party place with flat rate.

Maxime
01-09-16, 11:44
As for the gb01 event, it says:

Here again, do not know what to expect.

Maybe my best for now would be gb01 event with Kadisha Latin and Tara Sky.

Will see in the coming days before making a decision.About GB01: this quote is there for LEGAL reasons, there was some issue with German (local / city) government, but since now officially it is a film production, NOT a GB, it seems legally (more then) ok. Expect hoewever the same as on SG parties (but much less crowded!) and SS (but with no filming of faces, etc).

Tara Sky is super, Kadisha I don't know, but looks promising.

SwingerLover
01-09-16, 23:16
Never attended a Villa Frivol party, so do not know what to expect. The few reports rate this venue and the organisers rather poorly.
I was a bit reluctant to recommend Villa Frivol to you, but it seems as if there are no other options so far.

Maxime is correct about GB01 posting this for legal reasons. Apparently, the local government of the community of Stuhr has nothing better to do than harass GB Media with bureaucratic nonsense. GB Media has an approval to use Studio 11 for film production, but not for commercial gangbang parties, hence they do only film productions at Studio 11 and explicitly state at in the announcement for each event they have in Stuhr. (There's no such problem in Hamburg, Hannover or whereever else they do parties.) The text "Gedreht werden an dem Tag viele geile Porno Szenen (vielleicht mal ein dreier oder ne Bukkake) . Bei dieser Veranstaltung handelt es sich nicht um keine Gangbang oder Sexparty!" you posted translates as "On this day, many cool porn scenes are shot (maybe also a threesome or a Bukkake). Regarding this Event, it's not a matter of gangbang or sexparty!

Maybe some more ads show up during next week. I expect another gangbang with Spermamaus Ela in Bergheim (west of Cologne) next week, just like the one she's having this coming Tuesday.


Hi guys,

Couldn't find a proper thread about Frankfurt?

Is there a club worth to visit near Frankfurt? I am looking for a gangbang type party place with flat rate.There is a "Frankfurt" thread in the regular "Germany" Forum.

There's no AO gangbang type party place with flat rate in the Frankfurt region. You will either have to do without AO or without flat rate.

The only exception are the occasional events hosted by Spermagames or other organizers; you'll find some of those in my lists in the Bareback AO Party Calendar thread. (Like Sexy-Susi's party next MON and the Spermagames party next THU, both at Swingerclub LoveLounge in Mörfelden.).

Pv118
01-10-16, 09:57
I am in Berlin today and tomorrow. Any advice where I can find alles ohne?

Wanking
01-10-16, 22:19
I am in Berlin today and tomorrow. Any advice where I can find alles ohne?Street girls or cheap kinos.

BbfsOnly
01-19-16, 23:55
Hello all,

Thank you for having this forum. I was able to have a great time from this website. Couple years back I was in Germany, I visited Angelique's, and I had a wonderful time with younger girls in there. I am not able to access their website, does this place no longer exist?

Thanks again!

Vito Corleone
01-20-16, 07:57
Hello all,

Thank you for having this forum. I was able to have a great time from this website. Couple years back I was in Germany, I visited Angelique's, and I had a wonderful time with younger girls in there. I am not able to access their website, does this place no longer exist?

Thanks again!Some of those girls moved to la Luna in Moers. More info in the CLL thread.

Optimist
01-20-16, 09:19
Hello all,

Thank you for having this forum. I was able to have a great time from this website. Couple years back I was in Germany, I visited Angelique's, and I had a wonderful time with younger girls in there. I am not able to access their website, does this place no longer exist?

Thanks again!Moved to La Luna in Moers. Of course the workers are largely new since your time.