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Mr OReilly
04-06-14, 07:48
Has any fell for one of these girls and had it turn out okay? I am on a slippery slope of sanity here, a part of me wants this chick for good but then a part of me realizes the truth that it likely won't work. I made the mistake of seeing the same girl for 2 weeks, got her number, and we talk all the time so I have grown a fondness to her and her to me. In any case, has any one experienced anything positive out of this?

Member #4351
04-06-14, 08:12
Where are you, where is she?

TomJackin
04-06-14, 08:24
Where are you, where is she?Are you fucking my girl?

Rule of thumb: She is not your girl; just your turn.

Don't ever lose track of that thought.

Wolvenvacht
04-06-14, 08:46
Has any fell for one of these girls and had it turn out okay? I am on a slippery slope of sanity here, a part of me wants this chick for good but then a part of me realizes the truth that it likely won't work. I made the mistake of seeing the same girl for 2 weeks, got her number, and we talk all the time so I have grown a fondness to her and her to me. In any case, has any one experienced anything positive out of this?There is no reason why it cannot work. There are examples enough in South-East Asia. BUT! You will have to take her out of her "working" environment. Too many men fall into the "sponsoring trap" where they will monthly send her money to keep her out of her bar and be available for when he returns. That will never work. The girl will cash the money and keep working. You cannot expect her to be faithful to you if you are never around. How would you do yourself?

However, don't expect it to be any easier or more successful than a "normal" marriage (if ever such thing existed). But that never seems to have stopped countless people to marry anyhow.

Goatscrot
04-06-14, 09:56
Are you fucking my girl?

Rule of thumb: She is not your girl; just your turn.

Don't ever lose track of that thought.Quick shower and she is as good as new!

Ganesha
04-06-14, 12:28
You will receive as many opinions as answers. There is no rule!

The very positive aspect: You are aware of the two opinions inside you, so you will not get lost. Just work on this relationship like you would do with any other and see how it will develop.

Not a fairytale: A friend of mine worked as part time escort specializing in older men. She married one of her clients and the marriage worked out very well. He got cancer soon and she took care of him with all devotion and efforts, so he was able to die in peace at home and not in a hospital. But he was an asshole. She signed a contract of marriage without knowing his language good enough. I got to read it after his death. Most of his wealth went to his wealthy children who did no visit him once during his illness.

Who is the Angel and who is the Devil? Read all the opinions and learn from them. But do it you own way! Wish you Good Luck and Happiness!

Mr OReilly
04-06-14, 16:42
I feel like I am going fucking crazy here to even be thinking it as an option. I am too young in my mid thirties and she fucks for money. I have known her a long time, like 2 years now, and I do like her. I should of stuck to the 3 fucks and move on rule! I am sure this happens to every monger at some point, as much as we just lay them and leave them, there are some cool chicks out there.

In any case, the advice is what I was thinking, it likely won't work. She is from Colombia and I live in the Caribbean now although I will probably move back to Canada for job opportunities in the future. I doubt I could ever afford to live in Colombia either, and if I did in live in Colombia I'd want to bang all the girls.

Some times you got to take a risk to make a play though, I ain't rich so fuck it she can take half my shit LOL wouldn't get much!

Jon32
04-06-14, 18:57
I feel like I am going fucking crazy here to even be thinking it as an option. I am too young in my mid thirties and she fucks for money. I have known her a long time, like 2 years now, and I do like her. I should of stuck to the 3 fucks and move on rule! I am sure this happens to every monger at some point, as much as we just lay them and leave them, there are some cool chicks out there.

In any case, the advice is what I was thinking, it likely won't work. She is from Colombia and I live in the Caribbean now although I will probably move back to Canada for job opportunities in the future. I doubt I could ever afford to live in Colombia either, and if I did in live in Colombia I'd want to bang all the girls.

Some times you got to take a risk to make a play though, I ain't rich so fuck it she can take half my shit LOL wouldn't get much!I 'dated' a working girl for about 2 years. You're not going to marry them and life is short. Just have fun with her and do relationship stuff with her, who the hell cares. (I was also banging other girls while I was 'dating' her tho).

G Schyman
04-07-14, 12:54
There are many examples of Couples mmeting where the woman was a bargirl / Hooker / service provider and the man a John. If you are honest to eachother it could work out. Just don't marry until after knowing the woman for some years.

I have many friends that married both Thai and Phillipine bargirls and their marriages has turned out fine. I know there are many examples of the opposite but if you are of similar age etc. There is no reason to why it shouldn't work out. She fucks for Money and you pay to fuck. What is the difference?

Sailor Jim
05-17-14, 00:05
There is no reason to why it shouldn't work out. She fucks for Money and you pay to fuck. What is the difference?The difference is one might have a problem with the other one's.

Some johns don't like the idea of being serious with a hooker or ex hooker and some hookers feel the same way about johns. Mostly this is because they both think their role as hooker / john is / was temporary, necessary, not the real me, something of a private phase I don't want anyone to know about... And that knowledge of the past surfaces disguised as problems.

If you are an old fat fart marrying your 22 year old Thai bargirl then you probably don't care at this point in your life about her past. And as long as you are supplying the money and security she'll suppress her discontent with having to settle for you're being a john = if she has an issue. She might not.

But the younger guys (20's,30's,40's) with some game and half their shit together might think that by being with a hooker that they are settling and can get the same quality babe who has not been pounded by thousands of dicks a year.

Britisher
11-26-14, 01:50
Has any fell for one of these girls and had it turn out okay? I am on a slippery slope of sanity here, a part of me wants this chick for good but then a part of me realizes the truth that it likely won't work. I made the mistake of seeing the same girl for 2 weeks, got her number, and we talk all the time so I have grown a fondness to her and her to me. In any case, has any one experienced anything positive out of this?Yes, I have dated a hooker in Buenos Aires. Actually she was not a hardened hooker and we had instant physical attraction when we met.

However, it never worked out. But problems were more such as usual relationship problems rather than her being a hooker and me being a john.

If I were to fall in for a hooker again, I would not hesitate to go for a relationship especially if along with looks, she has a nice heart and we both have good chemistry between us.

Star2019
06-21-19, 15:06
It's a temporary feeling under the influence of the moment. It remains for a short term. It's not a real feeling. Reality of life is different. Basically such feelings become prominent under the urge of sex. But when the mind cools down, is in reality and under no influence then acceptance for her gets dimmed.

Best way is keep relationship as long as both are comfortable. Better not become emotional in such issues.


Has any fell for one of these girls and had it turn out okay? I am on a slippery slope of sanity here, a part of me wants this chick for good but then a part of me realizes the truth that it likely won't work. I made the mistake of seeing the same girl for 2 weeks, got her number, and we talk all the time so I have grown a fondness to her and her to me. In any case, has any one experienced anything positive out of this?

OldSchool318
07-07-19, 21:28
One of the problems is that natural feeling she would work and still be a hoe when you aren't there.

If you can get past it and they are great girls. Then why not?

I am posting here because I fall in love with everyone of them I boink! And often they like me too!

What are some tell tale signs the girl secretly still works?

BobBlack
07-08-19, 11:32
One of the problems is that natural feeling she would work and still be a hoe when you aren't there.

If you can get past it and they are great girls. Then why not?

I am posting here because I fall in love with everyone of them I boink! And often they like me too!

What are some tell tale signs the girl secretly still works?Does she still go to the place you met her. Does she always answer your messages or calls within ten minutes or must you wait ages. Does she contact you or is it always you contacting her. Is she really being open about her movements or actions when you're not there. Try and contact her under another name and see how she reacts to suggestions.

Star2019
08-03-19, 10:21
Try this. Use a different sim, I mean different phone number. Call her. See her response if she picks up immediately or delays picking up or responds afetr 3 - 4 attempted call. Talk to her as an unknown person and see how she responds. Tell her you got reference from your friend giving her your earlier phone number and name as a reference you received and see her response. The way she responds will let you know what's in her minds and what she really is.


One of the problems is that natural feeling she would work and still be a hoe when you aren't there.

If you can get past it and they are great girls. Then why not?

I am posting here because I fall in love with everyone of them I boink! And often they like me too!

What are some tell tale signs the girl secretly still works?

Gamer76
05-07-20, 10:46
Try this. Use a different sim, I mean different phone number. Call her. See her response if she picks up immediately or delays picking up or responds afetr 3 - 4 attempted call. Talk to her as an unknown person and see how she responds. Tell her you got reference from your friend giving her your earlier phone number and name as a reference you received and see her response. The way she responds will let you know what's in her minds and what she really is.What if she identifed the voice LOL?

Gamer76
05-07-20, 10:47
What are some tell tale signs the girl secretly still works?Maybe she uses make up just like a WG does and also her pussy becoming loose with each passing day.

Sammon
05-07-20, 15:53
Maybe she uses make up just like a WG does and also her pussy becoming loose with each passing day.Only age and child bearing will loosen pussy. Sex alone will not according to experts. Certain STD also loosen pussy. Also genetics play a role. As mongers we have all seen young girls with no children. Some have real tight and some loose. Usually fatter the girls looser the pussy. Maybe because just like breasts which sag with more fat. I am no expert so no quoting. Just mongering experience only.

EddieLima
05-07-20, 18:29
One of the problems is that natural feeling she would work and still be a hoe when you aren't there.

If you can get past it and they are great girls. Then why not?

I am posting here because I fall in love with everyone of them I boink! And often they like me too!

What are some tell tale signs the girl secretly still works?Women who have dudes on rotation are smart. But they take many stupid chances! They are good with lies, but not much on their surroundings. When you're talking with her on the phone, do you hear another call trying to get thru? Does she ignore it? Play as if you don't notice. She if she will "call you back in a min"she has to answer that call! Also, when speaking, do you hear another phone in the background? They usually mute it but you can still hear the vibe (that's the money phone--never far way) --act dumb. Do the kids have new clothes / sneakers? Without asking you for bread? Sometimes the kids ask who is that--is that Carlos? Is that Raphie? Again surroundings. Her friends will always give her away-sluts hang with sluts! Facetime her-is her hair done on a Tuesday and again on Friday? Call her late Fri and Sat-money time! Taking it to the next level? Write down when she has her period--start and end date-- Cause next month, that's the week she will be very affectionate, real GFE, but will be asking you to send a little something since she can't work!! That one just cost you a beer, bro! Start and end date is another nugget-for another time.

Beavis
05-08-20, 03:52
One girl in Puerto Plata had 4 American boyfriends sending her money. She was a master at lies. She even had 2 in town once at the same time and managed to come up with a sick relative story so she could only stay every other night and pulled that off. One of her USA boyfriends called once while she was doing a gang bang with 4 guys. Her friend answered the phone and gave the "she went with her mother to the doctor" line. She did that for a long time, juggled 4 different boyfriends while she continued to work.

Midwestern
05-08-20, 04:47
Falling for a pro is fine, as long as you don't marry them. The best is when they marry someone else, or have a BF. Then, you get all the good stuff while their husbands or BFs have to put up with the bad stuff, like their nagging and having to put food on the table.

Macron
05-29-20, 14:14
Falling for a pro is fine, as long as you don't marry them. The best is when they marry someone else, or have a BF. Then, you get all the good stuff while their husbands or BFs have to put up with the bad stuff, like their nagging and having to put food on the table.But falling also leads to an emotional attachment which may or may not be easy for certain individuals to let go off in an instant or a jiffy. It's like not everyone is emotionally so strong to let go in short time. And when it really takes a toll on your mind, there is a feeling of sadness and depression.

Jon32
05-29-20, 14:26
I've had 2 pros as long term girlfriends, was fucking great.

Fall in love or marry a pro? No, never would. Pros are to used to money / objects as being their reward.

If they're not getting it from you, they are damn sure getting it from someone else.

As Frank Sinatra said, I pay them to leave not for the sex!

Macron
05-29-20, 14:28
Only age and child bearing will loosen pussy. Sex alone will not according to experts. Certain STD also loosen pussy. Also genetics play a role. As mongers we have all seen young girls with no children. Some have real tight and some loose. Usually fatter the girls looser the pussy. Maybe because just like breasts which sag with more fat. I am no expert so no quoting. Just mongering experience only.I would just like to add that loose or tight pussy is specific to individual who feel that, means the same pussy which is loose for some may feel like tight for some others. It's because the muscle are so flexible that it adjusts to every width, but yes after childbirth it becomes loose, but still some women maintain tightness even in their early 40's too.

The Cane
05-29-20, 14:52
I've had 2 pros as long term girlfriends, was fucking great.

Fall in love or marry a pro? No, never would. Pros are to used to money / objects as being their reward.

If they're not getting it from you, they are damn sure getting it from someone else.

As Frank Sinatra said, I pay them to leave not for the sex!I thought it was Charlie Sheen who said that, but maybe he got it from Sinatra. Anyway, no matter who said it, its true LOL!

Projector
07-21-20, 06:33
Only age and child bearing will loosen pussy. Sex alone will not according to experts. Certain STD also loosen pussy. Also genetics play a role. As mongers we have all seen young girls with no children. Some have real tight and some loose. Usually fatter the girls looser the pussy. Maybe because just like breasts which sag with more fat. I am no expert so no quoting. Just mongering experience only.Can you explain how genetics also plays a part in this?

WiseMonger
07-21-20, 06:46
Only age and child bearing will loosen pussy. Sex alone will not according to experts. Certain STD also loosen pussy. Also genetics play a role. As mongers we have all seen young girls with no children. Some have real tight and some loose. Usually fatter the girls looser the pussy. Maybe because just like breasts which sag with more fat. I am no expert so no quoting. Just mongering experience only.I agree that age and child bearing will loose pussy but yeah also having sex too looses pussy. My personal with my GF having sex for years during my graduation and post graduation. I personally experienced a lot of difference in her vaginal tightness.

FastFuck
07-21-20, 10:39
Can you explain how genetics also plays a part in this?Even I wondering about this thing. We have all heard how genes determine how we look, our facial features, skin colour, eye colour etc. But how can genetics play a role in tightness or looseness of pussy. I am hearing it first time, that too here.

Zeos1
07-22-20, 04:37
Even I wondering about this thing. We have all heard how genes determine how we look, our facial features, skin colour, eye colour etc. But how can genetics play a role in tightness or looseness of pussy. I am hearing it first time, that too here.Genetics plays a role in every muscle, every tissue, every organ. In our whole body. Why would it not play a role? But what that role is who knows. And who cares. And maybe that was the point of the question. Even if we knew that there was a certain gene combination that made for extra tight pussies how would that help us?

PilotPaul
07-22-20, 06:30
I agree that age and child bearing will loose pussy but yeah also having sex too looses pussy. My personal with my GF having sex for years during my graduation and post graduation. I personally experienced a lot of difference in her vaginal tightness.Are you are thinking you are solely responsible for her looseness? A pussy is going to expand to fit the largest cock. So if it was 'loose' on you then unfortunately for you there was probably also a larger cock doing some of the work. It's good to share the load I guess.

ManonsanBoy
07-22-20, 19:45
I once fell for a hooker from Angeles. I even visited the home village and was treated like royalty. But I came to my senses and left before tentacles were wrapped. About 5 years later, out of curosity, I hired a phillipine investigator to look for her. Bonus for identification. She was in her village but with 2 more kids in addition to the one she had. She also looked 20 years older. Don't fall in love with a bar girl. I see couples in Australia like that and they always look miserable. On the other hand, I know couples who met through more usual circumstances and most of these work out OK.

FastFuck
07-23-20, 14:37
Genetics plays a role in every muscle, every tissue, every organ. In our whole body. Why would it not play a role? But what that role is who knows. And who cares. And maybe that was the point of the question. Even if we knew that there was a certain gene combination that made for extra tight pussies how would that help us?I am not telling that you have to do research for finding that gene combination. What I was wondering was how it plays a role. Because a pussy or vagina muscle is flexible and it can adjust the size of baby as well as a cock. In that sense flexibility depends on genes, I don't have knowledge for that.

FastFuck
07-24-20, 17:03
I once fell for a hooker from Angeles. I even visited the home village and was treated like royalty. But I came to my senses and left before tentacles were wrapped. About 5 years later, out of curosity, I hired a phillipine investigator to look for her. Bonus for identification. She was in her village but with 2 more kids in addition to the one she had. She also looked 20 years older. Don't fall in love with a bar girl. I see couples in Australia like that and they always look miserable. On the other hand, I know couples who met through more usual circumstances and most of these work out OK.And how old was she is reality?

OldSchool318
02-24-21, 20:37
I posted last year asking about this.

Here is what I learned as I travel often and am lucky to get to indulge quite a bit with variety.

I fell in love with a lady from Latin America. Even arranged my life to live in that country for a minute.

After I left to go back home even though we had an amazing time, she broke up with me. Here is what my thoughts are on it.

#1 working girls are used to being rewarded. It is all they understand. Even if they truly love you and I know this one did, she still has needs and an understanding of how to get those needs.

#2 While we were together she never left my side. Never other dudes, no issues nothing like that. It was like a married wife. But when I would leave she would act funky (I. E. Losing her phone at night, staying in places she should not be, hanging with women that she would not bring around when we were together). I told her we did not need to be exclusive but she would swear by it. I would rather have an open honest relationship then pretend to be exclusive. However, I think saving face is a big part of it.

#3 It was always a "you don't do this for me" and I felt she could be ungrateful. I came to the realization, the man while she could love was only meant for providing. We had a lot of fun and a great time and our relations were over a few years, but there was always a feeling of her thinking I am not putting her first.

#4 You can trust them. To a point. You have to know their limitations. My woman literally would do anything for me. And her and her fam love me to this day I do know this. But, she is still a woman who was a high end escort and knows she can return to that at anytime. That temptation is very very hard to overcome.

Conclusion:

Don't marry them and don't make any promises that you can't keep. Understand that no matter how much she loves you, it is a different culture, different pressures, and different life. I would instead recommend a relationship as one of generosity while I am there but an honest understanding.

MrClen
02-25-21, 23:05
Are you are thinking you are solely responsible for her looseness? A pussy is going to expand to fit the largest cock. So if it was 'loose' on you then unfortunately for you there was probably also a larger cock doing some of the work. It's good to share the load I guess.I see many reports dealing with penis size, but none really dealing with the size of the box it goes in. Average penis size varies by country and of course by Genetics. Wonder if there are studies of pussy size versus the same criteria??

NeilGeorge
03-15-21, 01:59
Wondering if any of these Sugar Baby relationships have worked out and transitioned to marriage? I was involved with one from SA for 3 years and she agreed to marry me after year 2.5 however recently dumped me for a younger guy. I will not give my age, but I am in low 60's and she in upper 20's. Any success stories?

OldSchool318
03-15-21, 18:24
Wondering if any of these Sugar Baby relationships have worked out and transitioned to marriage? I was involved with one from SA for 3 years and she agreed to marry me after year 2.5 however recently dumped me for a younger guy. I will not give my age, but I am in low 60's and she in upper 20's. Any success stories?Curious, if you are not having babies, and just want a companion why not just do that? Why marriage?

Unless, I was going to spend everyday for the rest of my life or at least we were making babies just my opinion but I don't see any good in doing that.

Elvis 2008
03-15-21, 22:43
Wondering if any of these Sugar Baby relationships have worked out and transitioned to marriage? I was involved with one from SA for 3 years and she agreed to marry me after year 2.5 however recently dumped me for a younger guy. I will not give my age, but I am in low 60's and she in upper 20's. Any success stories?NG,

I have had several sugar baby types interested in marriage. I was engaged with a woman whom I met on SA. I think we would have made it if she had been able to move and been with me more quickly. When I say "make it", I mean make it to marriage. After that, it would have been a disaster.

I thought with Latins the age difference would not be as much as there was with Americans, and there has not been as much difference, but there has still been quite a bit. My most serious sugar baby is thrilled with the idea of marriage but I am not. She has had to keep her family, who are well off, away from asking me for financial gifts, and she has done all she can to show me that she is not about money, but it is not a good deal for me even if she can make six figures a year which I think she can.

Thing that was depressing about my engagement is that just like with my wife, the sex went to shit. It is like there is a point with a woman where they just quit having to try to impress you sexually. I thought it may have been me than I remembered Chris Rock's routine about how every married man gets the same lazy ass blowjob. What was even better evidence was that a woman plotted female desire in relationships and showed how quickly it tails off.

I went through a phase where I was at a loss as to what to do. I seemed to be happier seeing multiple women at once and certainly that was more sexually and emotionally fulfilling than being with one woman but I thought that I wanted a so called legitimate relationship, but the people in these "legitimate relationships" are usually not happy and have shitty sex lives.

What clinched marriage being a bad deal for me was the book of numbers: Analyzing the ROI on the pursuit of women. To me, it showed how fruitless the conventional pursuit of women was.

In fact, what has been most fun has been challenging the conventional structure of what relationships should be. The notion that women only want one man has gone out the window. I just went to Cancun with two women and had a ball, maybe the best trip of my life. The women were not jealous but rather happier not having to talk to just one other person and I found that refreshing as well. That they both were bi helped as well. The sex was off the fucking chain and may have been the best of my life. I am sorry. I do not care how great the woman is but after a few days you are going to get tired of one another.

IMO hookers are cheaper and almost always better sexually than wives or GFs. Thing is that when you go to sugar baby status you can have the intimate wife or GF sex with the emotional component and not have to commit. To me, that is better. Sugar babies are a middle ground between the hookers and GF / wives. You get the sex, the intimacy, and the positive but not negative emotional parts of a relationship. If you cannot keep things fresh with a woman, and this lack of freshness is known as the Coolidge effect, then you move on to someone else, no hard feelings.

What I have learned after studying nature is that is pretty close to normal mammalian behavior. I got caught off guard when women would say "I am yours". It is a turn on but it really was not that comment that was a such a turn on. What mattered is that they were in the moment and performed with me. I do not care what the women do when I am not around. Other guys would say your sugar baby is off fucking someone else. So? I care that she is fucking and sucking me good. In fact, it is the monogamous relationships where the sex seems to be the worst.

There is a manosphere phrase that says, "She is not yours. She is your turn. " The whole concept of ownership is old school. She takes your name but in so doing, she is able to take 50% of your wealth. When she can voluntarily leave, take 50% of your wealth, and your children, she is NOT yours. With marriage, government sets the rules. With a sugar relationship, you do.

As for it being my turn, I do not want to hang around hot 20 somethings all the time and listen to them drone on about what is not important. I often want to hang with men my own age and for them to hang with their female friends. When I was with my two women, I got to avoid the shit I hate the most, "Honey, how does this look on me?" Shit, that is a question for other women not me. I will invest in their beauty but I do not want to be a whipping post when the women are not happy with their looks. It is a million times better to have another woman answer the "how does this look on me" question.

So, in short, NG, I could have had the "success" with marriage in a sugar relationship many times, but I chose not to. To me, the why is simple. If I am going to pay for a relationship, why should I be paying for one where there is pretty much a guarantee of having a shitty sex life? Why not pay for one where I am going to be sexually happy?

That may be shallow but if being in a real relationship means being deep and unhappy, I will take shallow and happy every fucking time. What is important, my happiness or the happiness of society? Truth is what I have found is that when you are really happy, society is happy for you.

NeilGeorge
03-16-21, 01:43
Curious, if you are not having babies, and just want a companion why not just do that? Why marriage?

Unless, I was going to spend everyday for the rest of my life or at least we were making babies just my opinion but I don't see any good in doing that.1. love. One way, I am a love sick puppy for her. The one who loves the least holds the power in a relationship.

2. I would love to have a child with her. She was interested, off and on.

3. I enjoy having her around, the sound of her voice, her vibe. I do not want to lose her.

Now, 10 days ago, I lost her to a younger guy. I do not think he will pay her bills like I did, I do not think he cares about her, nor has the money. Time will tell, she has done this to me twice each spring for the last 2 years. She will probably realize I was the best for her, in 2-3 months and want me back like before. Will I take her back? Yes, probably, but only as a PPM. She is not wife material. But I let down my guard with her and she took advantage of me.

Sailor501
03-16-21, 12:27
1. love. One way, I am a love sick puppy for her. The one who loves the least holds the power in a relationship.

It's a tough spot to be in, Start listeningTo Sandman On YouTube, Start with his earlier Posts, Cheers


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z66RKOeHGhk

OldSchool318
03-19-21, 20:14
1. love. One way, I am a love sick puppy for her. The one who loves the least holds the power in a relationship.

It's a tough spot to be in, Start listeningTo Sandman On YouTube, Start with his earlier Posts, Cheers


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z66RKOeHGhkI almost thought about marriage, and we talked a lot about it. We were together for 5 years plus. She was all for it and the moment it all started falling apart really was when I mentioned we would have to have a pre nup. I have had a semi successful life that is in progress. I explained I do not know what the future holds, and I believe in love but I must protect all that I have worked to achieve.

Well. That started us to ruin. After I went back home and soon I heard there was no future. And that I really only wanted prostitutes (kind of true) blah blah blah. I was ok with that. The love had run its course.

I'm not telling you what to do or anyone, but the dreams and aspirations do not always align with yours. Make sure you protect yourself and you are not looked at as a huge payday by the lady you think you love.

DramaFree11
03-20-21, 01:37
I almost thought about marriage, and we talked a lot about it. We were together for 5 years plus. She was all for it and the moment it all started falling apart really was when I mentioned we would have to have a pre nup. I have had a semi successful life that is in progress. I explained I do not know what the future holds, and I believe in love but I must protect all that I have worked to achieve.

Well. That started us to ruin. After I went back home and soon I heard there was no future. And that I really only wanted prostitutes (kind of true) blah blah blah. I was ok with that. The love had run its course.

I'm not telling you what to do or anyone, but the dreams and aspirations do not always align with yours. Make sure you protect yourself and you are not looked at as a huge payday by the lady you think you love.I am not against love or marriage, but I have given way too much money to lawyers over the years, since I am self employed. I am way up, with the work my attorney has done for me, honestly my lawyer is like a dad to me. (Expensive, but he is a great role model), , but legal battles get old fast, stressful, and expensive, even if you win. Hell, yes, you need to protect yourself. Even If I had no money I would still make her sign a Pre-Nup.

OldSchool318
11-09-21, 01:47
I love them WG.

Fall in love in the moment. (loveliest) with almost all of them. Regardless of size, beauty, status, pro, semi pro, streetwalker, casa girl, American career broads. Don't matter.

The real trick is being able to move on or just not get that close. Or do it, but know when and how to step back. And I'm learning, I think.

ILikeButts
04-29-22, 19:08
1. love. One way, I am a love sick puppy for her. The one who loves the least holds the power in a relationship.

2. I would love to have a child with her. She was interested, off and on.

3. I enjoy having her around, the sound of her voice, her vibe. I do not want to lose her.

Now, 10 days ago, I lost her to a younger guy. I do not think he will pay her bills like I did, I do not think he cares about her, nor has the money. Time will tell, she has done this to me twice each spring for the last 2 years. She will probably realize I was the best for her, in 2-3 months and want me back like before. Will I take her back? Yes, probably, but only as a PPM. She is not wife material. But I let down my guard with her and she took advantage of me.You are definitely pedestalizing her. I've been there but it is always a mistake. She might be wonderful but there are plenty of others who could make you just as happy. Since you are an experienced sugar daddy this will be super easy for you. Go on seeking, set up a bunch of dates and bang 5 or 6 new girls. Just one after the other, in rapid succession preferably all within a month's time. Basically audition girls to be your new SB and let them know that is what you are doing.

At the end of that month I bet you will feel very differently about the one who left and you probably will have a new SB.

DoomBringer321
07-08-22, 06:57
The other day I was chilling and shit and ma main man, Mr. Fox called as usual we chit-chatted and shit he is one of the friends of my hommie gringo loco amazing human being 76 years old hope he lives 76 more years. So he spend several days in my house because of the social situations going on in the US it's almost impossible for what people now called sis gender male, in other words, a regular man to "date" women in the US. Don't get me wrong if he concentrated he could, in theory, he could get plenty of pussy but why would he want to, and then the question becomes at what cost. Allow me the opportunity to enlighten you evolved primates and explain women in today's age expect for some reason good old fashion romance, if you read most statistics women are "settling down" at a greater age than in the past and are wondering why men are no longer paying attention to them, the west has made it criminal to be masculine there are some states in the union where it's illegal to "cat call" or approach a woman so why would men risk embarrassment, humiliation and possible criminal prosecution to get what exactly, a woman with an unfeminine attitude that does not know how to cater to a man, a woman that does not exactly let a man lead or know how to be quiet and is constantly out of pocket. So he did what an increasing number of men are doing in today's age traveling to find a good feminine woman, Mr. Fox immediately hooked up in Ecuador with a young 19-year-old named Janina from https://partyecuador.com/ according to him the sex was amazing the problem is that in a few days he was with her he started catching feeling for this woman who biologically is old enough to be his daughter he is 42 she is 19, the problem with these kinds of issues is the lack of appropriate socialization with men in the west, in Latin America if you want a woman to be your side piece say it, if you want her to be one of the girls in your rotation say that as well if you want her to be your main woman tell her, women in Latin America are wired differently because of culture so they want a man to lead and will attempt to accommodate him if they don't like the arrangement they will leave it's that simple.

Mr. Fox confessed to me he had dated in the US because of the above-stated reason so he dates when he travels, the scarcity mindset is what makes people try to lock down a woman when instead of feeling that she is one in a million, in reality, she is one of the millions keep that in mind players when you are out and about your business.

XViking
05-07-23, 04:23
I married a foreign escort girl, were married 15 years, 2 kids. After the divorce, tried once again but failed, though 3 times was close to second marriage, all 3 also international. Below are some tips.

The first and foremost, get rid of the wrong and misguiding stereotype of a Third World woman created by the Western mass media. We hear, see and read from everywhere about poor, measurable women in the Third World struggling for survival, desperate and restricted to the alternative of prostitution or suicide. All bullshit.

Regarding good looking girls, including single mothers, the real life is the opposite. For them all the world (Africa, Thailand, the Philippines, etc) is a paradise. None is hungry for money, none gives a shit on moving to the developed world.

They enjoy their lives, they have there family and friends, they study and go to gym, they rent apartments and share with none, they buy whatever they like, and discos, salons and pools are their weekly entertainment.

So, if you are brainwashed by the media, and you think, "Wow, I am going to save one desperate lady, I would treat her like princess, I would care for her and all her family, and she would kiss me. " her reply would be "go f. Yourself".

They do not look for humanitarian help and they do not look for a savior. They look for equal relations. They look first and foremost what person you are, before how much you earn or where you live. One of her first qiestions would be whether you like dancing, though she would not leave you if you don't. They are more patient than their Western counterparts, they can tolerate that you are much older, ugly, boring and communicate with google translate. But they would not tolerate any kind of domination and even attempt might be fatal for the relations.

The latter point is crucial. If she agrees to marry you, it does not mean she agrees to have sex with you every week or try anything beyond missionary. Discuss the subject in advance to see if you can bridge the expectations gap.

Those willing to send money, a bit of pre-surveillance might be useful for you. Once I learned that her ex is not ex but strong present and they look like a couple in honeymoon. Do not contact private detectives, they would charge huge amount, do terrible work, demand extra payment before sending photos and videos and, if you refuse, threaten sending the material to the client. Just another girl from the same dating site from the same city or taxi driver would do a perfect job for 100 $ per day.

Those willing to adopt a kid, the first thing the authorities would ask both in her and your countries is father permit. The girl would always say it is not problem, only to talk to the father. Then anything can be. Once I got murder threats from the father. Before marrying, invite the girl with her kid to visit your country and see if she can travel abroad. This method saved me from one doomed marriage.

If she says she is pregnant from you, do not send money before the DNA test. Evidence of pregnancy is not enough, she can be really pregnant but from someone else. Once fell here, damage 4000 $. At the end she said the kid was born but died the next day from respiration failure. I asked papers from the hospital, then threatened her with investigation, and she told the truth. She really was pregnant but gave birth 5 months earlier. Did not sue her for 4000 $ and we are still in contact.

All girls agree for a marriage contract regarding the material side, never had this kind of problem. But at the advanced stage, you are in a worse danger. If she complains she married you for citizenship and slept with you for citizenship, a Western judge would make serial rape of it. Served for it 4 years in jail. Got beaten by sticks, stabbed in breast and stomack, stoned in head and one hand was fractured. If it comes there, break into punitive isolator. The best way to break into isolator is hunger strike; if urgent, attack another inmate.

All the way however I never regretted marrying an escort girl and I still try my best to repeat. I was fated to be one of the vast Western community of incels (see them on Wikipedia). I fought the fate and defeated it several times. I had the best sex with the best girls and I have two kids out of it. They are cute as their mother, not ugly like me.

So good luck to those who still want to try.

OldSchool318
09-07-23, 17:07
Wow I am shocked that the story you wrote does not have more responses.

Couple questions.

1) why was marriage such a focus?

2) what countries were involved?

3) what country did you try to bring them to?

4) what country did you do time in?

I truly love them hoes and have had longer term friendships with many and definitely fallen for a few.

But it seems you really tried to turn them to wives.