FKK Oceans Düsseldorf [Archive] - Page 5

PussyLiccker

01-19-17, 04:19

Only real brightly lit area(on the level of Artemis stairs area) at Oceans is the reception area(other than the dining area of course), and the sauna area is not as dim as the lounge. Girls sign-in for the rooms there.

Interestingly, other than GT or LR (I know the girls get the key from the room behind the reception) which I'm not sure if there is a sign-in sheets back there, many clubs in the NRW there is a sign-in sheet the girls write the time. I've seen this at Aca, Samya, Magnum, Oceans, YY (NL), Mondial among others. I wonder why it's common at the NRW?

Mr Ho

01-19-17, 04:27

LR is all Romanians. Not saying Oceans is better but at least at Oceans you may meet a sexy Albanian Turkish girl. You have almost 1400 posts surely you are aware that 90-95% of FKK girls in Hessen and NRW are Romanians / Bulgarians.

You may want to consider hobbying elsewhere or getting German independent escorts or a place like Termin girls in Ratingen.Turkish and Albanian girls are good, one of my favorite girl was named Coco at Artemis and Fiorentina at gt before Artemis, she was Albanian with German passport.

Hmmm you guys are confusing me LOL.

I have full 4 dates in NRW area, which are Friday, Saturday, Sunday and Monday.

How would you guys do this, I land on Friday at 1:30 PM at Düsseldorf, I check in hotel near Düsseldorf Hauptbanhof, so I can be at Ocean or Liing room at 4 pm-ish or bit before.

PussyLiccker

01-19-17, 04:40

LR is all Romanians. Not saying Oceans is better but at least at Oceans you may meet a sexy Albanian Turkish girl. You have almost 1400 posts surely you are aware that 90-95% of FKK girls in Hessen and NRW are Romanians / Bulgarians.

You may want to consider hobbying elsewhere or getting German independent escorts or a place like Termin girls in Ratingen.Yeah, but other than the more regular Romies, the Oceans LU isn't all that consistant like some clubs at the NRW. At LR I have met Russians, Germans, Hungarians, Turkish (or half), but my picks has been mainly Romies there.

At YY, you can run into Lithuanian(somebody actually pointed out a Lithuanian)Russian-German(Jane), Czech (Nikki), Germans, etc. So, majority are Romies (greater percentage than what it used to be), but at various venues there are those small minorities of Hungarians, Bulgarians, Poles, Turkish, Germans, etc(more Turkish/half to Germans than others I find now a days). This is just in terms of nationalities, but for taste, can vary what girls one finds attractive or has good times with.

The fact is there has been changes over the years in shift to mainly Romies in clubs.

PussyLiccker

01-19-17, 05:05

I do not have good session with Romanians comparison with Germans and I lover Germans as I describe above the best especially when they are new to the FKK scene! Fresh like Sushi is what I love LOL.I've had mainly good sessions with Romies at LR. Services are more tied to club culture than nationalities at a macroscopic level. Of course at an individual level, any club you will find good service providers to bad.

Sirioja

01-19-17, 10:44

Oh thank you buddy! LR seems like more club I am looking for me as I like girls just starting out!

LR get going at later in afternoon like at 4 PM-ish right?

And I read GT get going from 1 PMor2 PM-ish already.

And GT seems to be the one and only that I am most looking for especially over weekend as I love the German girl (original or immigrated few generations back) the best to session with, so GT seems to be the one and LR seems to be same owner so similar line up.

So due to limitation of dates, I may skip oceans and just concentrate on GT and LR because I do not have good session with Romanians comparison with Germans and I lover Germans as I describe above the best especially when they are new to the FKK scene! Fresh like Sushi is what I love LOL.At LR, mostly Romanian girls who are best GF.

Pistons

01-19-17, 11:59

I have not met a Turkish/Romian yet. Either full Turkish or Turk/De.Melina and her sister Larissa (girl at Oceans after Sierra moved I believe) are Turkish I believe. I only tend to see them on Fridays and Saturdays though.

If you prefer young Germans, I don't know if GT is the best though. Even though I did see a very young German/polish girl there last summer (most Germans there when I was there were 30+). She was too new and just 19 I think, so had to take long rests between sessions due to pussy hurting. Sometimes (or most of the time) it is better to wait until they are at least 21-23. They get a bit more experience, and can take a bit more fucking.

PL: There is a sign in sheet at GT. I recall the reception lady took it out when I petitioned about Barbie. But doesn't the Hessen clubs also have this?

Mr Ho

01-19-17, 12:48

Melina and her young sister Larissa (youngest girl at Oceans after Sierra moved I believe) are turkish I believe. I only tend to see them on fridays and saturdays though.

If you prefer young germans, I don't know if GT is the best though. Even though I did see a very young german/polish girl there last summer (most germans there when i was there were 30+). She was too new and just 19 I think (youngest girl at the club), so had to take long rests between sessions due to pussy hurting... Sometimes (or most of the time) it is better to wait untill they are at least 21-23. They get a bit more experience, and can take a bit more fucking...

PL: There is a sign in sheet at GT. I recall the reception lady took it out when I petitioned about Barbie... But doesnt the hessen clubs also have this?Wow, 19 years old German girl, I would have loved that, lucky you man LOL.

So where am I suppose to go? LOL.

Pistons

01-19-17, 20:06

Wow, 19 years old German girl, I would have loved that, lucky you man LOL.

So where am I suppose to go? LOL.New day, new opportunities. Just chance anything. I don't know if it is even a toss up. The clubs are quite different though. GT and Oceans is as far apart as fkks can get in terms of facilities. Try as many as you can and return to the ones you like the most?

ExpatLover

01-19-17, 21:00

Wow, 19 years old German girl, I would have loved that, lucky you man LOL.

So where am I suppose to go? LOL.You can find girl in many FKK those days, today at world I was approached by a German girl it was her first day in a FKK.

Sirioja

01-19-17, 21:45

Wow, 19 years old German girl, I would have loved that, lucky you man LOL.

So where am I suppose to go? LOL.Don't go to LR for Germans. Not anymore Laura. De. I love Romanian GF at LR. On average level, only LR can compete with Switzerland for GFE services for me. At Globe. Ch, mostly Romanians for 280/ h.

Craiova

01-20-17, 02:12

On average level, only LR can compete with Switzerland for GFE services for me. At Globe. Ch, mostly Romanians for 280/ h.For 280 per hour I find in many German FKK clubs young, smart, top class looking girls give me at least the same sex level (GFE or / and PSE what ever I like) as at Globe or other Swiss clubs. Most of time even cheaper; average sessions with my favs around 2 hours including anal makes 300, impossible to get better service in Switzerland. Girls at the Frankfurt big5 FKK clubs still can give great sex but most of the beauties don't do anymore for 50 euro but for 100 euro or more still many young beautiful girls top. Anyway these "want everything for 50 euro in full 30 minutes from a young beauty" guys should realise that for sex with top class european style girls german FKK clubs are still (at least till July) the best and cheapest place in the whole world for P6.

Mr Ho

01-20-17, 02:42

For 280 per hour I find in many German FKK clubs young, smart, top class looking girls give me at least the same sex level (GFE or / and PSE what ever I like) as at Globe or other Swiss clubs. Most of time even cheaper; average sessions with my favs around 2 hours including anal makes 300, impossible to get better service in Switzerland. Girls at the Frankfurt big5 FKK clubs still can give great sex but most of the beauties don't do anymore for 50 euro but for 100 euro or more still many young beautiful girls top. Anyway these "want everything for 50 euro in full 30 minutes from a young beauty" guys should realise that for sex with top class european style girls german FKK clubs are still (at least till July) the best and cheapest place in the whole world for P6.Well we are just assuming that things may change in July, so we do not know yet, I hope it won't affect BBBJ situation in German FKK after July.

However, this force me to make another trip in June to Germany just in case LOL.

If the situation affect BBBJ in German FKK after July, well good bye Germany for rest of my life, you served my sex life well and Hello, Austria and Switzerland!

The problem is where to find young teeny model type if taller kind of beauties in German FKK nowadays LOL Line up changed a lot since I began, I always had to dig to find, but now I have to dig deep as finding the oil in deep deep sea LOL.

I hope NRW FKK like oceans, LR or GT will provide me with some young beauties I am seeking for. Because in Berlin and Frankfurt, it is really hard now. I find one or two max for each one week visit.

Pistons

01-20-17, 04:05

That was a long way towards agreeing on the upselling lately at the Frankfurt clubs there Craiova. I am more inclined to tip them 10 or even 20 instead of doubling the cost. 100% price increases are silly. Or maybe if I have a fav girl I do 1 x 30 min and 1 x 1 h. Then she gives me top service in return both times.

Craiova

01-20-17, 05:21

I haven't talked about upselling, I've talked about fair pricing. And in 2017 I don't see anymore a fair price of 50 euro for some time pre room talk and full 30 minutes top class sex. The east europeen girls have nowadays almost 4. 000 euro costs every month for entry, tax, accomodation and transport. Anyway I guess at July price structure for P6 in Germany get up.

And maybe at LR average service level slighty better than at Sharks, Oase or Mainhattan. But in no way at Golden Time, Dolce Vita or Oceans and some other clubs in NRW. And average optic at the Frankfurt big5 always better than at the NRW clubs.

ExpatLover

01-20-17, 07:45

Mr Ho

01-20-17, 07:51

And average optic at the Frankfurt big5 always better than at the NRW clubs.What? Do not say that, I am going to NRW in two weeks time LOL.

I thought NRW has better looking girls?

Pistons

01-20-17, 08:39

I'm not going to discuss this with you here, and I do wish the girls will make more money, but there is a logical breach in there. Now the riddle is to figure out where. Perhaps in one, two or three places.

But a few things can be mentioned, and those are 'the willingness to pay factor' and social numbers game among the girls. And the 'global competition' regarding tourists.

The problem in this industry is that there are no cap on the amount of workers. So you get close to 'perfect competition'. And that is the main problem which ruins pricing. Not what you and I believe the girls are telling us.

Now the new cap on amount of brothels is a step in the right direction. But they probably need to cap the amount of registered girls also. And in the same way they could easily trace all the pimps and get a clean industry without a single pimp. I know exactly how I would do it if I was in charge of making those rules, regulations and surveillance.

Mr Ho

01-20-17, 09:57

PussyLiccker

01-20-17, 10:52

Can't agree with Craiova. Oceans and DV is probably the lowest services at the NRW, but put GT in the same category is bullshit, or the services being worse than Oase, Sharks, and Manhattan. For him maybe, but then again he makes statements about Oceans without even visiting. Have you even visited those clubs? You did say you have no reasons to visit Oceans. As for optics it's subjective. Various clubs, different optics levels at clubs. There's a lot of smaller venues at the NRW. Talking about avgs makes no sense. For example, I didn't see those 9's Craiova refers to at Manhattan. LOL.

Hessen is more of a tourist destination. NRW is generally not, that's the main difference that reflects the pricing per service differences between the regions. In p6 world service has to do with pricing so yeah, service level as well.

If one gets up sold 150 Euros all inclusive, 50 Euros extra for kissing, or minimum 1 HR required for full services that people high chances of running into in Hessen, that deviates from what is included in the standard, so therefore pricing is part of services. In that respect, there are general differences in services between the two regions.

By the way, majority of girls I take at clubs is on the low 20's or young age range, and the Germans and others are no different at GT.

Craiova

01-20-17, 14:56

The large mainstream clubs at NRW are full with guys from Netherland, Belgium and France. Didn't know they are no tourists LOL. And Duesseldorf is one of the largest business and Messe cities in Germany and the clubs are full with international clients. Oceans, DV and GT are full with tourists, no big difference to the Frankfurt big5 clubs. GT is full of MILFs only few young really top looking girls. And at Oceans this club is only a joke, many guys now in clothes in the club (no extra money for this now) and still an inflation of free entry tickets in Internet. Actual serval offers on ebay Kleinanzeigen where guys offer hundreds of Free Entry tickets now valid till August 2017, sorry that says for me everything about the reputation and value and the client structure of this club.

PussyLiccker

01-20-17, 15:16

Oceans is not full of tourists it's mainly Turkish when it fills up. DV is in the city and during Messe it's closers for the Messe attenders as Oceans is.

There is a difference from those that attend nearby to the flyins. GT is located closers to the boarder, so they the drive in types across the boarder from nearby counties.

Hessen is all around an easier destination for access via public transport.

Sirioja

01-20-17, 18:55

How are the session pricing here in NRW? For Oceans, Living Room and for GT?

OK, it is 50 euro for 30 min, CIM is 50 Euro, Anal 100 Euro?

I hear at Living room, it is 50 Euro for first 30 min then next 30 min is 25 Euro, so 75 euro for one hour session? Is it like this for GT too?

I also read somewhere that anal is 50 euro at Living Room?You should read threads.

At GT, LR, Oceans, 100/ h. CIM is 25 and anal 50 at GT and LR. CIM is 50 and anal 100 at Oceans.

If you look for German girls, don't lose your time at LR which is Romanian GFE land. Esta. De with her hard silicon tits, is far below many LR Romanians. Ana. De doesn't kiss.

Pistons

01-20-17, 19:11

Vito Corleone

01-20-17, 19:21

How are the session pricing here in NRW? For Oceans, Living Room and for GT?

OK, it is 50 euro for 30 min, CIM is 50 Euro, Anal 100 Euro?

I hear at Living room, it is 50 Euro for first 30 min then next 30 min is 25 Euro, so 75 euro for one hour session? Is it like this for GT too?

I also read somewhere that anal is 50 euro at Living Room?50€ for thirty min. 100€ for an hour. 25€ for CIM. Anal, it depends on the girl.

Acapulco & Aca gold 40€ every thirty min. 25€ CIM. Anal ask the girl.

Craiova

01-20-17, 19:30

Its ok Craiova. It is clear that you have never been there. In all my Oceans visits last year I saw 1 single guy in his suit. All the other thousands wore robes. That says it all on where you pull your facts from. The land of flying unicorns.That's has changed after is no more 30 euro fee for wearing clothes in club. At my 90 minutes (of course free entry and and some paid drinks) I saw enough dressed guys there. One time experience is enough. And please stop send me PM I have enough from your public no knowledge BS I don' t need more from you with PM.

Pistons

01-20-17, 19:37

I have also been there after that change. I don't see what your problem is, but we can agree to disagree on the bullshit part. Still so very obvious that haven't been there. The land of the unicorn however...

Or maybe you went there after that post you made claiming you had never been there, and stayed for a very special 1.5 hours.

Sirioja

01-20-17, 19:49

For 280 per hour I find in many German FKK clubs young, smart, top class looking girls give me at least the same sex level (GFE or / and PSE what ever I like) as at Globe or other Swiss clubs. Most of time even cheaper; average sessions with my favs around 2 hours including anal makes 300, impossible to get better service in Switzerland. Girls at the Frankfurt big5 FKK clubs still can give great sex but most of the beauties don't do anymore for 50 euro but for 100 euro or more still many young beautiful girls top. Anyway these "want everything for 50 euro in full 30 minutes from a young beauty" guys should realise that for sex with top class european style girls german FKK clubs are still (at least till July) the best and cheapest place in the whole world for P6.Do you think I spend more expensive in Switzerland with no reason? For my tastes, Hessen is lower than in 2014 or 2015 for beauties. Only Megan really attract me for beauty. More beauties for me in NRW and higher GFE level at LR. If I sometimes regret to spend 50 € for some girls, I never regret to spend 420 with Kate or 560 with Isabella. History is even higher casting for me than Globe now, with real GF.

Mr Ho

01-20-17, 22:58

You should read threads.

At GT, LR, Oceans, 100/ h. CIM is 25 and anal 50 at GT and LR. CIM is 50 and anal 100 at Oceans.

If you look for German girls, don't lose your time at LR which is Romanian GFE land. Esta. De with her hard silicon tits, is far below many LR Romanians. Ana. De doesn't kiss.I did LOL and I read that at LR and GT it is 50 euro for first 30 minute, then 25 euro for next 30 minute, so 75 euro per hour, so I was like what? If this is true, it is such a good deal, but it is not apparently and it is 100 euro per hour like every other FKK.

But it is good to hear it is CIM 25 and 50 anal at GT and LR!

So Oceans keep their pricing policy higher than other clubs in NRW, so oceans should be able to attract better looking better service line up, especially considering the better bigger facility too, so how come line up was not good up until recently? I mean it is by many of you guys who mentioned line up quality in terms of looks optically dramatically improved since few months ago.

Maybe it got to do with the owner being bankrupt and need more money or new owner already came in to fix the club and line up is most important, so line up of oceans become more beautiful and young lately perhaps?

Banana Boi

01-21-17, 00:49

And average optic at the Frankfurt big5 always better than at the NRW clubs.Always? I don't think so. You really believe World, Palace, and Mainhattan have better looking girls on average than Golden Time? I realize GT has slipped a lot from its hey day.

Personally I will always find more girls to my liking at Mondial than those 3 clubs in Hessen but we all like different girls. I would never say it's better on average though since a lot of ugliness remains at Mondial too.

Mr Ho

01-21-17, 01:21

Do you think I spend more expensive in Switzerland with no reason? For my tastes, Hessen is lower than in 2014 or 2015 for beauties. Only Megan really attract me for beauty. More beauties for me in NRW and higher GFE level at LR. If I sometimes regret to spend 50 for some girls, I never regret to spend 420 with Kate or 560 with Isabella. History is even higher casting for me than Globe now, with real GF.OK, to your taste, which seems to be similar to mine, which clubs in NRW has most chances of the most number of beautiful girls in line up?

I know it is depend, but what are the highest probability of best line up in terms of beauty optical point of view in NRW clubs?

PussyLiccker

01-21-17, 01:59

Craiova

01-21-17, 02:21

It's true I life in Mainhattan / Frankfurt. So it's much easier do German clubbing than living in San Francisco LOL. And Duesseldorf I'm anyway sometimes and I used my free entry ticket I had valid till 16th January to confirm what I expected. Convinient was that I hadn't changed clothes, I went with clothes in the club. And 90 minutes and some talks to some girls are enough at this club. Hardware ok, line up so lala, some girls I know from other clubs as lowest level providers and clients structure in the evening wasn't my thing, A tourist and Turkish guys club.

And expect from 2 hardcore Oceans Fans with as it looks tourist level and two other supports here at ISG I find in none Germany P6 forum any positiv opinions of this club. At the strong NRW FC and RheinF you find more or less only bad opinions about Oceans.

Mr Ho

01-21-17, 02:46

Banana Boi

01-21-17, 02:48

And expect from 2 hardcore Oceans Fans with as it looks tourist level and two other supports here at ISG I find in none Germany P6 forum any positiv opinions of this club. At the strong NRW FC and RheinF you find more or less only bad opinions about Oceans.Hopefully you're not referring to me because I am far from being an Oceans fan. The club sucks but I still have over 10 unused free passes to use.

Mr Ho

01-21-17, 03:19

Hopefully you're not referring to me because I am far from being an Oceans fan. The club sucks but I still have over 10 unused free passes to use.Why club sucks? Because of management or Line up beauty level.

If management who cares, we just got to be street smart.

If line up is bad due to no stunners, then that is real problem as we can not do anything, but cover the face and bang the base, or go else where LOL.

For me all I care for FKK is how many stunners are in line up, rest is not important for me comparison to beautiful girl in line up.

And who spread the rumor that it cost 50 euro for first 30 min then next 30 min is 25 euro at gt and LR?

Sirioja

01-21-17, 03:51

Just a thought, given that LR is GFE service club right?

And knowing GT and LR has same owner, and Lineup of these two FKK are same just same lineup going back and forth between two clubs, then what is the point of going to GT? Which is not sounding to be GFE club. It would make sense to just goto LR which is GFE service club with same LU.Even they are brothers, GT and LR castings are very different. LR is paradise for Romanian GFE lovers like me. For German girls, go to GT or Sharks or Palace or Atmos.

Vito Corleone

01-21-17, 03:58

Just a thought, given that LR is GFE service club right?

And knowing GT and LR has same owner, and Lineup of these two FKK are same just same lineup going back and forth between two clubs, then what is the point of going to GT? Which is not sounding to be GFE club. It would make sense to just goto LR which is GFE service club with same LU.There's a couple of hot chicks at LR that do not provide GFE. There's also many hot chicks at GT who provide GFE. Generally, LR has a higher % of GFE compared to GT. GT also has one of the most diverse Lu in Germany.

Mr Ho

01-21-17, 06:41

FKK Samya is worth visiting? I checked the train to Cologne, so distance do not matter, but Samya has good review on Japanese reviews and caught my interest about line up.

Is full line up there at FKK Samya by 1 PM or more like better to go at 5 pm-ish? Are they model type?

Pistons

01-21-17, 13:02

It's because he lives in Mainhattan. LOL. And he aways makes statements in collective instead what he wishes, Mainhattan. So, he blends all comments with different clubs, generalized everything like they are all equivalent.

It's funny how the few guys dressed is bothersome. Must be quite an eye sore to be concentrating on the dressed guys. LOL. Oh yeah, and the 90 min stay. Right.Come to think of it, the dressed guys he saw was probably the bouncers, bartenders and the manager. They usually all wear dress.

And as I mentionned earlier. LU in dec was the poorest I saw last year. And its still low season untill feb. So not gonna second guess it if Craiova saw a bad lineup. Come to think of it, its pretty much the top 4-5ish girls that has made it a great LU for me last year. With the occational extra girl dropping by. Still the optics in general was stong... even though helped by the ambience... and I did find some heavy kissers there also last year. The club does need to improve some things though. And the lineup is not as stable as in the hessen clubs or artemis...

I like good ambience. Thats why I also to liking Palace when the right girls are there. And circumventing bad service can be tricky. But finding gems are possible at bad service level clubs also. Just gotta search a bit and use intuition...

PussyLiccker

01-21-17, 16:50

Bartenders are behind the bar, it's obvious. So is the male security officer in suit who is at the reception area mainly.

Any few wearing civies in lounge, etc. Are pretty obvious.

Any noticeable tourist types are very minor I've seen. I've been there during a Messe, and really very minor tourist types by appearance. Majority are Turkish, I've visited enough.

Placing the club nearby Messe was to originally target flyin tourist, bottled services, ala carte etc. Also, the free shuttle from airport with the taxi driver incentives.

It hasn't worked, hence the pricing schemes they have. And the free entry cards with the condition of 15 Euros spent. The high Turkish popular brings in the the volume even with the free entry cards or the lower entry (requiring money spent extra on food and drinks). Nearby Aca Gold in ratingen is 20 Euros happy hrs.

Pistons, we have difference in opinions on this place. I've visited at the end of Nov on a Mon, and really the LU was noticeably better and better observed(and some changes maybe) than late night weekends I've done with the heavy populous of Turkish with terrible ratio which hasn't helped in choices. I didn't stay throughout the night so, probably more of a mixed as for optics (older types, body types, few of the Turkish or Germans) show later at night.

A threshold of entry pricing draws in the younger Turkish crowd, which Oceans is another now that has targeted that market. Mondial and Aca are the other two. And last time F39 was closed down, at Salome, the more of Turkish hrs after 8 had discount special with disco like atmosphere.

Generally, I notice Germans during slower times / days, and Turkish late at night a lot of places. Turkish tend to come in groups and probably are into the party atmosphere, loud music, lots of people.

Oceans has that at night.

Pistons

01-21-17, 23:26

Many times I see the manager, bouncer and one or two other men working at the club hang by the bar towards the entrance, chatting. All dressed in suit. But it doesn't matter.

You are right about the clientelle. I haven't been there on a Monday. But perhaps it is the same as thursdays and sundays to some extent. Quite relaxed and not so loud music. That loud music is mainly there for about 2-3 hours at peak time on fridays and saturdays. It can be a bit too loud and even some girls agree on that. Which is a little unfortunate.

Perhaps the majority is turkish, but it is a toss up, so probably like 45% european and 55% turkish. Then some days I've seen an asian or two also, or an african or two.

Mr Ho

01-29-17, 03:38

So toward the end of 2016, line up at oceans were really good facially / optically right?

How is 2017 line up now, I mean it is February soon and line up must be back this week or next week.

Has anyone been to Oceans this week? Or lately? How is line up optically?

Pistons

02-13-17, 06:12

Lots of changes in lineup. Eleny and Alina were killing it though. Those girls are in top shape (they do some fitness too) and were dancing all night. The cute kind of fit, and not with excessive muscles. A few other new 8's or 7++. 3-4 perhaps for me, but I forgot the names. Maybe a 9 or two depending on taste. But Eleny and Alina stands out with this petite catwalk fitness presense to them wearing thongs. Haven't seen Andra and her friends (Annabell especially) since Oct. Wonder if they have changed club...

There was a new girl there too (forgot to write down names). Black hair short. I wonder if I took her virginity as she was bleeding and very tight. It was hopeless to try other positions than missionary and her first day at Oceans. She claimed to have worked two other small nrw clubs before, and that she had menstruation, but personally I don't know. This other guy I met there thought she was just 15, but that's exaggerating for sure. Very pretty face on her, but she was overly shy...

Im guessing 50ish girls on a sunday, so not a full lineup. Akira, Raissa, Elena and Sabrina was also there... Maybe half the girls were new to me... so a high turnover compared to the hessen clubs or artemis. Although Palace seems to have an ok amount of new girls going in and out also...

My last session was one of the new girls (an 8) who woke me up in the cinema kissing like crazy. She caught me off guard, so i had to do her. A good call even if I had my mind set on repeating Eleny or Alina again instead. As we got out in the lounge again a few girls started laughing. Supposedly my face was full of lipstick from the heavy crazy kissing... lol

Can also add there has been changes to the entry fee (again). Club opens up at 14.00 now. If you arrive between 14 and 1500, it is 25 euro entry and you get a free a la carte choice and free drinks pluss free alcohol before 1900. The food plates have also increased in size. They are pretty massive now, so you will get full from one meal for sure. Unless you go for the pasta options. Those plates are smaller...

What do you know, thankfully there are tons of clubs, but the larger amount of options within one club, the better. So I feel nrw has a problem with such a high competition as PL has mentionned before also...

Pistons

02-13-17, 15:27

The positive is the higher turnover at this club. You never know what to expect with the lineup, but there allways seems to be new doable girls there every month or every second month as opposed to some clubs in hessen or artemis where the lineup is almost 90% predetermined before you visit. The club also has a core of girls, but no large group seems to be any stable. Perhaps a result of the average age being so young also. So those who say there has been upselling in the past, have probably just hit a bad number on the roulette.

The crowd starts out with being mostly european/asian untill around midnight, when the turkish crowd grows and take over. I did see more non ME clientelle in percentage now than in the past. Unfortunately on a sunday, the club dies out a bit at 3am at night, and I have noticed the same on thursdays, and not 5am when they close also... I suppose it is only fridays and saturdays it is a truly late late night club when they hold open till 7 in the morning...

Banana Boi

02-13-17, 23:56

Pistons

02-14-17, 00:05

Service guys actually look at this as a negative. Fly-by-night girls at a FKK don't generally provide the best service.I am not 100% sure about that. I have met some top performing fly by night girls the past year. A bit hesistant to write too much about it though as I fear some regulars at some clubs who for all we know might try to enforce club rules, might be oogling in here.

But you probably have two kinds. One that gives bad or average performance and therefore moves on, and the other type that gives top performance. The top performers I've met, normally have told me reasons for leaving old clubs in the line of girls groups they were tired of at the old place who set their own rules...

Now those rules set by these groups in the clubs might be a smart move by them if their club has some sort of monopoly. But if there are competition, I don't understand why the girls try this... and for some german fkk's at least, that competition is turning more and more global these days... then the only smart union thing to do would be to try and lobby managers and owners to increase 30min rate by 5 or 10 euro... that creates integrity, which guys would value much more than upsells... and set prices for all the fair extras like cornhole etc...

It could be ymmv also...

ExpatLover

02-16-17, 20:37

I am not 100% sure about that. I have met some top performing fly by night girls the past year. A bit hesistant to write too much about it though as I fear some regulars at some clubs who for all we know might try to enforce club rules, might be oogling in here.

But you probably have two kinds. One that gives bad or average performance and therefore moves on, and the other type that gives top performance. The top performers I've met, normally have told me reasons for leaving old clubs in the line of girls groups they were tired of at the old place who set their own rules...

Now those rules set by these groups in the clubs might be a smart move by them if their club has some sort of monopoly. But if there are competition, I don't understand why the girls try this... and for some german fkk's at least, that competition is turning more and more global these days... then the only smart union thing to do would be to try and lobby managers and owners to increase 30min rate by 5 or 10 euro... that creates integrity, which guys would value much more than upsells... and set prices for all the fair extras like cornhole etc...

It could be ymmv also...Visited Ocean today, it is really a great Club except the girls are not nude I have nothing to complain, great LU, very nice and clean premises, very friendly staff, good food, the best club I visited in the last 5 years.

Pistons

02-16-17, 23:25

Visited Ocean today, it is really a great Club except the girls are not nude I have nothing to complain, great LU, very nice and clean premises, very friendly staff, good food, the best club I visited in the last 5 years.Clearly I agree its a top club, but which clubs have you visited these past 5 years? (Did you leave before 20:37?)

ExpatLover

02-17-17, 05:51

Clearly I agree its a top club, but which clubs have you visited these past 5 years? (Did you leave before 20:37?)Mostly I visit Hessen clubs, yes I always leave early especially when I have a 7 hours jet-lag for me it was 3:37 AM.

Sirioja

02-17-17, 10:06

Clearly I agree its a top club, but which clubs have you visited these past 5 years? (Did you leave before 20:37?)Pistons,

I know you like Oceans and I respect, but not at all a top club for me, just a Turkish club with low level for girls services.

Except one guy crying about me at Sharks desk, I think Germans are honest people, like Swiss, but once again the short black hair MILF on desk tried to fuck me last night when she understood I don't speak German and I was proud to say I'm French. She wrote on a paper entry is 65, I gave her 30 saying to her it is written on internet. She answered for 30 I won't have anything, but it s OK for me, I don t want anything from such not honest staff.

Casting was good for beauties, blond German Emma is one of the prettiest girls seen in FKK even not classy, Sofi. Ro is really pretty and classier, but they don t kiss, so even friendly and smiling, they can keep on warming their ass sitting or turning around all night, not busy at all for such beauties. Also a pretty small blond with black dress, hunting with her sister not so pretty.

Arrived at 10.30 pm after a good run, no room for me until 2.30 am, despite 3 really attractive girls. Had then a good 2 hours sleep in rest room.

Not at all my Swiss or LR standards for girls GFE behavior and services. I really regret for Emma beauty but fast Turkish suck and fuck would be too frustrating for me. I advised beautiful eyes Michele. Ro ex Prestige, Samya, Sharks, to leave this bad level club. No good business with Turkish sleeping or drinking in couches all night. Not my expectations for sex. Only my subjective experience and tastes. Each one his experience, but no kissing don t worth to have sex for me. No Anda, no Sierra seen.

Wiild

02-17-17, 17:48

How is quality and quantity of more fake looking girls at Oceans at the moment? I. e: large firm silicone tits, big lips, long nails etc? I am spending some time in the Dusseldorf / Köln area but haven't been able to figure out by RTFF which FKK / Saunaclub or stripclub etc is the best for fake-look.

Pistons

02-17-17, 18:44

ExpatLover

02-17-17, 20:02

Pistons,

I know you like Oceans and I respect, but not at all a top club for me, just a Turkish club with low level for girls services.

Except one guy crying about me at Sharks desk, I think Germans are honest people, like Swiss, but once again the short black hair MILF on desk tried to fuck me last night when she understood I don't speak German and I was proud to say I'm French. She wrote on a paper entry is 65, I gave her 30 saying to her it is written on internet. She answered for 30 I won't have anything, but it s OK for me, I don t want anything from such not honest staff.

Casting was good for beauties, blond German Emma is one of the prettiest girls seen in FKK even not classy, Sofi. Ro is really pretty and classier, but they don t kiss, so even friendly and smiling, they can keep on warming their ass sitting or turning around all night, not busy at all for such beauties. Also a pretty small blond with black dress, hunting with her sister not so pretty.

Arrived at 10.30 pm after a good run, no room for me until 2.30 am, despite 3 really attractive girls. Had then a good 2 hours sleep in rest room.

Not at all my Swiss or LR standards for girls GFE behavior and services. I really regret for Emma beauty but fast Turkish suck and fuck would be too frustrating for me. I advised beautiful eyes Michele. Ro ex Prestige, Samya, Sharks, to leave this bad level club. No good business with Turkish sleeping or drinking in couches all night. Not my expectations for sex. Only my subjective experience and tastes. Each one his experience, but no kissing don t worth to have sex for me. No Anda, no Sierra seen.I fully agree with you, I gave this club a try but it is not really my cup of tea, everything is really nice but the service of the girls is average may be because they don t know me. But even with a 2 hours sessions it was difficult to get a GFE, just superficial kissing, I also like to touch the pussy was also not appreciated by the girls, overall more a optical fuck but for this I can get more beautiful girls in Hessen. But I also agree that nobody knows me compare to Hessen clubs.

Banana Boi

02-18-17, 00:29

But even with a 2 hours sessions it was difficult to get a GFE, just superficial kissing, Why would you stay over 30/60/90 minutes with a girl who doesn't DFK? No DFK for me is an automatic 30 minutes, unless her name is Leonie.

Sirioja

02-18-17, 01:47

Siri: I don't think the 30 option still applies. Too bad about the kissing. I get some kissing from most. Deep kissing maybe from 30%, so it is not that bad I feel. Which means there are allways some high kissers. The restrictive girls will allways loose customers. Like in every club.

And before midnight it was perhaps 80% non turks. But past midnight the turks +bf's/pimps start to enter...After trying to fuck me, short black hair MILF on desk accepted my 30 € without foods and drink.

When I arrived at 10.30 pm, already full of Turkish sitting and drinking.

No beauties seen on this Friday could compete with blond Emma. De. Casting at Oceans was higher for me than at Sharks on this Friday, but 2 beauties didn't kiss at Oceans, when Mandy. De is just a pleasure if you enjoy to kiss. Girls at Sharks are also more smiling than at Oceans, even all smiled when I went to speak. These 3 beauties didn't get much business.

PussyLiccker

02-18-17, 02:25

Oh man this club is just bad. Weekend was another sausagefest.

I ran into upsells. Some Hot chicks for the minor crowd of them around, the ratio, horrible. It's a make their own pricing club.

Scratched of my list of clubs to visit, at least for the weekends, just bad.

I don't understand what anybody sees in this club. Try going to a decent club, maybe will see how bad this club is in comparison.

Personally, don't like Turkish prevelent clubs in the NRW. Services are low.

PussyLiccker

02-18-17, 04:06

Extra pricing is not clear cut. Although there seems to be make your own pricing going on, anal was proposed for 50 by a girl.

Pistons

02-18-17, 04:07

Wow, I wonder if we go to the same clubs sometimes. Oh well.

Jimmy Boy 99

02-18-17, 04:19

ExpatLover

02-18-17, 05:21

Per the website it is 30 entry no food or drinks and 50 with a la carte menu and non-alcoholic drinks. However, between 2 PM and 3 PM it is 25 with free selection from the a la carte menu and free beer until 7 PM. Might be worth going then to check it out even if only to have a meal and some beer before going to say Acapulco on non-barbeque days.What I understood from the receptionist but her German is limited and English not really better or she doesn't want to give clarity about the pricing policy, you come before 3 AM you pay 25 for 1 dishes and free beer until 7 PM, you arrive after 3 PM you pay 50 euros for the same.

PussyLiccker

02-18-17, 08:39

Eventhough the ratio was pretty fucking bad, with the quantity of girls very minor in comparison, what a LU! Those groups of girls were hot. Why does it got to be Oceans out of all places? Sigh.

I guess GFE and hots don't mix at the moment in places now a days.

IMO, as much as I though LR had a good LU, the hot chicks at Oceans is something else. There def hot chickities. That alone is probably worth it for those in for the optics, but services. Dunno. I get bad vibes.

I think the LU is better than what I seen mid last yr. Different.

I think right now is goof Ro season all around. I've been noticing good presence and changes in lots places at the NRW.

Girls I've met were Sofie, Elena, Meggie (or Megan)
, and Ruby. Sofie is fucking beautiful! Elena is sexy as hell, erotic looking.

Meggie the Bul is fucking wild(she's actually coocoo), good service or should be more of capable of really great service, but rushed. Really pretty Bul. Seems like service is rushed and leave once deed is done. Why would this be going on in a high Turkish prevelant club? LOL.

Sirioja

02-18-17, 08:44

Extra pricing is not clear cut. Although there seems to be make your own pricing going on, anal was proposed for 50 by a girl.Better casting for me for pretty face beauties: superb Emma. De, Sofi. Ro and blond with short black dress, with her sister, on Thursday night at Oceans with about 50/60 girls, than at Sharks on this Friday, even more girls at Sharks, but not 150. Just have to find the good services and attractive beauties to enjoy. If Emma was kissing I think she would have a very long time room to taste deeply all her beauty, but many Oceans girls seem used to Turkish sex, not at all my way. Turkish are quiet at Oceans, not like at World or Sharks on late night sometimes.

My main problem at Oceans is desk behavior, I can t accept to be fucked as a foreigner. If we find good girls, then night could be good as in every other brothel. Staying 14 hours at Sharks on this Friday, and only 1 room with Mandy. De but she was very good.

Exodus8

02-18-17, 09:01

Bc turkish only want suck and fuck like a 🐇 😂.

Guess Oceans is not the promised GFE land I seek, LOL.

PussyLiccker

02-18-17, 09:04

Yeah that's more precise way to put it. Not GFE land as Siri would put it.

Finally, a decent service, but from a Bul? We need more Buls.

Exodus8

02-18-17, 09:17

And ukrainians find them hot as well as russians.

Pistons

02-18-17, 13:23

Eventhough the ratio was pretty fucking bad, with the quantity of girls very minor in comparison, what a LU! Those groups of girls were hot. Why does it got to be Oceans out of all places? Sigh.

I guess GFE and hots don't mix at the moment in places now a days.LOL, I get GFE from many of the top Oceans girls. Maybe me going there a few times has helped. Try and catch them on a good day and work their mood.

Also, maybe you confuse Elena with Eleny... that is two different girls at Oceans... Both are short blondes. Eleny a bit shorter, and likes to dance. Elena mostly sits around at different places and may actually be a natural blonde also as opposed to Eleny who is a fake blonde.

I wouldnt rate lineup higher on sunday than what I saw last year. With Andra, Annabell, Lorena and Malina missing. But it sounded like Lorena might have just been away for a day, and probably the same for Malina as her friends was still around. Yet none of the new girls were on Andra's level, although there was that heavy kissier who ambushed me in the cinema who had a pretty wild 10 performance and 8 in looks. Body looked a bit like Andra's too. Especially the ass. Yet not as pretty face as Andra, so a dark cinema where you dont see the face may be a good idea. Maybe a 7+ for face instead of Andra's 9... or maybe I actually havent looked carefully at this new girl's face...

PussyLiccker

02-18-17, 13:28

Wrong. Elena is not short and a Brunette.

Pistons

02-18-17, 13:32

Wrong. Elena is not short and a Brunette.Hmm, yet another club with several girls using the same names. I hate when they do that... there was two hot brunettes at around 165 that I didnt get to talk to also. The place needs more revisits for sure...

LU was best last year in sept/oct by the way. Right now it may be better than last summer indeed... allways better lineup on fri/sat too...

Horny Harry

02-18-17, 16:16

I ran into upsells. Some Hot chicks for the minor crowd of them around, the ratio, horrible. It's a make their own pricing club.

...but once again the short black hair MILF on desk tried to fuck me last night when she understood I don't speak German and I was proud to say I'm French. She wrote on a paper entry is 65, I gave her 30 saying to her it is written on internet. She answered for 30 I won't have anything, but it s OK for me, I don t want anything from such not honest staff.

Hmm, yet another club with several girls using the same names.So lets see;.

1) Confusion about names?

2) Confusion about entry prices?

3) Confusion about service prices?

Sounds like a Turkish bazaar, no thanks.

Pistons

02-18-17, 17:49

So lets see;.

1) Confusion about names?

2) Confusion about entry prices?

3) Confusion about service prices?

Sounds like a Turkish bazaar, no thanks.1. Clubs like Palace and Oase also have more than one girl using the same name. Annoying for sure here on the forum, but its a forum only thing, so why do you care? At least as long as you know none of the girls in question...

2. Entry prices are laid out several times. Should not be confusion. Just complicated. An easy target for forum trolling like your post though... the receptionists needs to be fired. It sucks if you become a target by her, but once past the gatekeeper, that obstacle is out of the way...

3. Confusion is deffinately not the right word for the service prices. Its more complicated than that. But that discussion is eternal in here.

Craiova

02-18-17, 20:30

Oh man this club is just bad.Couldn't agree more about Oceans.

Craiova

02-18-17, 20:39

1. Clubs like Palace and Oase also have more than one girl using the same name. Annoying for sure here on the forum, but its a forum only thing, so why do you care? At least as long as you know none of the girls in question...

2. Entry prices are laid out several times. Should not be confusion. Just complicated. An easy target for forum trolling like your post though... the receptionists needs to be fired. It sucks if you become a target by her, but once past the gatekeeper, that obstacle is out of the way...

3. Confusion is deffinately not the right word for the service prices. Its more complicated than that. But that discussion is eternal in here.1. I also criticize the double names at Oase and World, sure for Oceans too. Many other clubs show how to deal with names.

2. Complicated? For me the Oceans price system is simple fraud. That's it with tourists and people don't know the price system. Also I would feel cheated if I hadn't one of these thousands free entry tickets they give to everyone and you can buy on ebay.

3. A club where already the entry staff cheat you will find hardly honest girls, most of Oceans girls make their own rip off price system and management tolerate this.

Pistons

02-18-17, 23:31

3. A club where already the entry staff cheat you will find hardly honest girls, most of Oceans girls make their own rip off price system and management tolerate this.Thats just a hypothesis. Not one I have experienced at least.

PussyLiccker

02-19-17, 02:59

UltraHappy

02-19-17, 03:16

Pistons, I recall you described the place as "fun."

I can describe what I saw on Weekend night visit:

Many men were just sitting in the couches clumped together, and others sitting in the bar.

The girls clumped together standing around the bar, or sitting together in the groups. Like siri says with such amount of men there, they weren't doing much rooms or really interacting with the men.

Every so often, couple of them would do a circle and do that typical point at the client and to themselves and keep walkin.

That is the fun vibe you describe?

If you ask me, all the men were just sitting, and not much interaction with the girls.

I am pretty certain now, the club is targetting forein tourists to pay up full entry.Pistons appears to be on a campaign to promote both Oceans and Palace, the two Hessen clubs known as tourist traps. Perhaps he thinks it better to steer all the tourists to these two tourist clubs to avoid all those tourists spoiling his favorite clubs. It sure looks suspicious that the two clubs he continuously heavily promotes are also the ones that are known by regulars to be the worst in Hessen. In any case, he seems to be the only fellow here continuously trying to "sell" these two clubs. Very curious indeed.

Pistons

02-19-17, 04:58

That is the fun vibe you describe?Not sure when I made that description, but I write so much here that I forget most anyway.

But I have heard from other lazy dudes that they are bored from the same things you describe also. The sitting in groups talking to people, isn't that the same everywhere? I talk to girls there as well. Mostly by the bar or outside when the weather is good, or in the cinema even. Or I might eat together with one or more of the girls also. But perhaps it is the size of the place that puts some people off, making them feel it is less cozy and social than smaller lounges where these piled up groups sit or stand closer to each other.

Ultrahappy: Oceans lies in NRW and not Hessen. Just northeast of central Dusseldorf. What can I say, I like clubs with hot girls and good ambience. And the service I get at these clubs are nothing less than what I get at other clubs...

But ask yourself if it might just be the other way around, and that I might be the only reasonable guy here, while some 5-6 other guys are continuosly bashing some clubs. It could be anything from them wanting the crowds away from their favourite clubs, to them running some fkktour sites, promoting clubs that gives them discounts, to them being pimps for girls working at other clubs. It could be anything. I am just once voice, and I think with my dick in here. lol

Best thing someone can do is to check out all clubs themselves. Reports are subjective... some guy told me on whatsapp earlier today how germans are more objective on forums. Bullshit. Its just a language thingy. Everything is subjective... except perhaps mathmatics... and mathmatically speaking, Oceans does have the most girls out of any clubs in NRW. So there is that for you also...

Craiova

02-19-17, 05:19

I am just once voice, and I think with my dick in here. lol.Wow first and most likely only time I agree with you.

Pistons

02-19-17, 06:38

Wow first and most likely only time I agree with you.Don't we all? 😂

Lets add some honesty in here for once shall we Craiova?

Hessen Bub

02-19-17, 06:55

but I write so much here that I forget most anyway.Me too. I mean I forget what you write or just don't read it anymore. LOL.

2. Entry prices are laid out several times. Should not be confusion. Just complicated. An easy target for forum trolling like your post though... the receptionists needs to be fired. It sucks if you become a target by her, but once past the gatekeeper, that obstacle is out of the way...
As far as I remember Oceans is the only major club where guests get ripped off big time by the receptionist. And pricing structure doesn't seem to be displayed at the entrance. Take World as an example, they have posters with all information right at the entrance.

HB.

Banana Boi

02-19-17, 07:11

Stop defending the antics of this club Pistons. You're losing credibility every time you do.

Pistons

02-19-17, 10:23

Stop defending the antics of this club Pistons. You're losing credibility every time you do. I just wrote they need to fire the receptionist. (To HB, I remember I wrote this) Don't you agree?

The thing is, I am past that hurdle in my reports as I fake being german. The lots of you are either stuck at that stage, or the germans of you might have other motives to stay at that stage. I think everyone know the receptionist blows (well, not literally)... but now we've spent about 8-9 months here on the forum discussing that receptionist over and over, and it seems to be the only argument you nay-sayers have. I am not saying it is the best club or the best lineup around all the time. But it can compete with the other top lineups for sure on a good day... thinking back at last week, oase probably has the best lineup out of the clubs I visited right now. For a newcommer. But the margins are narrow right now, and no club stand out, or is far behind the rest of those I visit...

When it comes to credibility, then people are free to read or believe what they want...

HB: maybe one day you will get some self irony as well. LOL.

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When all that is said, I am sure it must feel bad to know there is a club not far away with a pretty good lineup which you feel enraged about... and me blogging about it must make it even worse I am sure...

Horny Harry

02-19-17, 12:31

Pistons appears to be on a campaign to promote both Oceans and Palace, the two Hessen clubs known as tourist traps. Perhaps he thinks it better to steer all the tourists to these two tourist clubs to avoid all those tourists spoiling his favorite clubs. It sure looks suspicious that the two clubs he continuously heavily promotes are also the ones that are known by regulars to be the worst in Hessen. In any case, he seems to be the only fellow here continuously trying to "sell" these two clubs. Very curious indeed.I have the exact same impression.

ExpatLover

02-19-17, 18:18

I have the exact same impression.Sorry but Ocean is not in Hessen but in NRW, visited 2 times Ocean last week, very nice premises, good to great LU, but I was not happy by the service offered by the girls, no GFE at all, poor kissing, and even touching was not always welcome.

UltraHappy

02-19-17, 20:58

Sorry but Ocean is not in Hessen but in NRW, visited 2 times Ocean last week, very nice premises, good to great LU, but I was not happy by the service offered by the girls, no GFE at all, poor kissing, and even touching was not always welcome.Yes, yes, we all know where Oceans is (despite my erroneous reference below). We all have Google Maps. I doubt that Horny Harry was expressing agreement with that erroneous cross-reference, but instead to the fact that Ocean's is like you said, terrible for service.

Pistons

02-19-17, 21:11

Good, then you lot keep staying away. No need to read in here like HB says he doesnt read my posts, yet he responds. And we all believe him. Lol

I just know that my last session at Oceans had a girl attacking me like a wild cat in the cinema, and went on to deep french kiss me while she fucked me more than I fucked her in the curtained of area at the back of the cinema room. And that the place gets so many girls comming and going that there hardly is any consistency in service. There is a mine here and there, and I am happy to let you know in pm's about the one or two I had. But there are also great girls holding nothing back. But it is true that management doesn't have as many rules here as at other clubs. So it is more random, and I can see the potential for attracting bad girls unless it gets more strict. But it doesn't have any girls group enforcing labor union rules on other girls there either. So its a free for all, and you can get smart girls who are kinky and wants to fuck (ymmv), or that are sick of other clubs with heavy group rules etc wheyre they feel the uglies are trying to lure the pretties into holding too much back. Since we all know the 3-6s are the horniest and kinkiest. Otherwise they wouldnt have made any money... so some smart top girls can get sick of it, going fly by night at other clubs going all out...

For example. Best fly by night service girls I've had the past 12 months were at Oceans... it seems to attract many of these maybe because of the luxury aspect of the club. Ambience, interior etc... and the fact it is new...

UltraHappy

02-19-17, 21:47

I just know that my last session at Oceans had a girl attacking me like a wild cat in the cinema,
For example. Best fly by night service girls I've had the past 12 months were at Oceans... it seems to attract many of these maybe because of the luxury aspect of the club. Ambience, interior etc... and the fact it is new...Well congratulations! It sounds like your stories helped convinced at least one guy to try the place out. You got PL to waste part of his day and an entry price there. LOL.

Do feel free to continue with your storytelling though. We all enjoy the entertainment.

Pistons

02-19-17, 21:54

Well congratulations! It sounds like your stories helped convinced at least one guy to try the place out. You got PL to waste part of his day and an entry price there. LOL.

Do feel free to continue with your storytelling though. We all enjoy the entertainment.Well, I didn't give names. I completely forgot to write down new names on that visit. Maybe I am just better at reading into who the performers are than some others. Some posters here I read more into than others because they seem to have a better aim. Also it can help to visit a club with one or two other guys. Then you can try more girls and give input. Too bad the nrw area is not as good for meeting well rehearsed mongers as the hessen area is though...

Then again, a girl such as Alina has a very high GF potential. Each session has improved bit by bit. But the hornier I am, the better service some of these girls seems to give also. You just gotta fuck them good, and they squirm!

Me and takedown also got sirioja to try palace after 100 pro sharks posts lured him into a wasteful night there... then again it seems me and PL allways goes for different types of girls. I don't think I've ever read a review from him on a girl I have also tried...

Horny Harry

02-20-17, 12:17

Yes, yes, we all know where Oceans is (despite my erroneous reference below). We all have Google Maps. I doubt that Horny Harry was expressing agreement with that erroneous cross-reference, but instead to the fact that Ocean's is like you said, terrible for service.Exactly right, I agree with your impression that Pistons appears to be on a promotion campaign, and not that Oceans is in Hessen.

Pistons appears to be on a campaign to promote both Oceans and Palace, the two Hessen clubs known as tourist traps. Perhaps he thinks it better to steer all the tourists to these two tourist clubs to avoid all those tourists spoiling his favorite clubs. It sure looks suspicious that the two clubs he continuously heavily promotes are also the ones that are known by regulars to be the worst in Hessen. In any case, he seems to be the only fellow here continuously trying to "sell" these two clubs. Very curious indeed.When I say that "I have the exact same impression" about the above post, then I have no idea how anyone can confuse this 'that I agree with the geographical location about Oceans,' unless of course Pistons just wants to distract from having been caught in the act of his obvious and very curious sales talks. 😂

Of course it's always possible to have different opinions about the same girl/club, but when only one opinion differs so radically from all the others, then I really start to wonder about the credibility of that particular person.

StrawJam

02-20-17, 13:27

After reading all the comments on Oceans and speaking from experience I decided to try a different club while awaiting my flight home. Oceans now opens at 2 pm which proves how bad the club was prior to this time. But the main thing that annoys me is the taxi scam they use. So I went to Acca Gold around 1 pm on Sunday. I was a little worried after reading a few reports but it was great. 20 euro entry inc food, soft drinks then beer is 5 euro. The club is bigger than I expected and clean and has under floor heating in the changing rooms. Nice touch. Rooms upstairs not the best but OK.

Food was the usual but smallish breakfast, I just caught the end of it. Around 2.30 pm veg soup and toasties and then 6 pm pasta, meat balls, chicken salad etc. Not the best but not the worst.

LU now at first look I got scared around 20 to 25 girls very nearly all 4's. But as nearly always happens the better girls start to appear from different areas. Within 30 minutes there were 3 decent Rom's all topless and nice bodies, 2 were size 8 and one a little bigger. The one with the glasses probably the best 7.5. But the service in the room is better than the usual 30 minutes service. All Deep throat, lick balls, anal play, cum where you want the only extra cost is 25 euro extra CIM so 65 euro. I hardly ever DFK so sorry can't comment. Then the best girl I saw in the 4 days came around 6 pm. A Rom 18 or 19 tall with model body and pretty face, I should have cancelled my flight and stayed but its the one that got away. She was the only 9 I saw in 4 days including 5 clubs.

I took the advice from the senior posters and tried some new clubs for myself and I am really glad I did. I died a death in LR on Thursday but had a great time in Acca Gold. PL you were right about LR I got there at 9 pm due to my flight and I just couldn't work the room I was left with the 6's and the average service providers. I didn't even see a 7 never mind an 8.

Pistons

02-20-17, 19:35

Marketing campaign. Funny.

Ok, go and be happy with your 6's and 7's in the smaller nrw clubs then. For me: girls first, clubs second...

So, 6-7 other posters have been there. All say lineup looks great. Some have bad luck with service. Others like the place and are luckier. Now the main thing in this thread is all the posters who has never been to the club. Yet they express their opinnions. And arguments against going range from taxi's to receptionists. I go there for the girls.

Maybe it is ymmv. Maybe I am the don juan of fkk mongerers, so the girls only give me good service... Maybe it is only me who the girls like. But almost everytime I go there I meet other guys who likes the lineup too...

Personally I just think alot of the long time posters on forums has campaigns against the club because they want to force changes to some of the antics by the management there. Fine. I personally think the better way to do it is to go there and tell it to the manager directly. I see him there atleast on 2/3 of the visits I am there... hanging by the bar near the entrance...

But when it comes to their taxi policy, then I much much prefer the way they do it at Oceans over how they do it at all the other clubs (except artemis who doesnt give comission). GT, Oase, Sharks etc etc all budget package the expenses on taxi comission into the entry price for all the customers. While at Oceans they separate it, so only the taxi customers pay for it... but silly people don't see this hidden expense at the other clubs.

Craiova

02-20-17, 20:10

ExpatLover

02-20-17, 20:11

Marketing campaign. Funny.

Ok, go and be happy with your 6's and 7's in the smaller nrw clubs then.

So, 6-7 other posters have been there. All say lineup looks great. Some have bad luck with service. Others like the place and are luckier. Now the main thing in this thread is all the posters who has never been to the club. Yet they express their opinnions. And arguments against going range from taxi's to receptionists. I go there for the girls.

Maybe it is ymmv. Maybe I am the don juan of fkk mongerers, so the girls only give me good service... Maybe it is only me who the girls like. But almost everytime I go there I meet other guys who likes the lineup too...

Personally I just think alot of the long time posters on forums has campaigns against the club because they want to force changes to some of the antics by the management there. Fine. I personally think the better way to do it is to go there and tell it to the manager directly. I see him there atleast on 2/3 of the visits I am there... hanging by the bar near the entrance...

But when it comes to their taxi policy, then I much much prefer the way they do it at Oceans over how they do it at all the other clubs (except artemis who doesnt give comission). GT, Oase, Sharks etc etc all budget package the expenses on taxi comission into the entry price for all the customers. While at Oceans they separate it, so only the taxi customers pay for it... but silly people don't see this hidden expense at the other clubs.I will let all of you go and go again to NRW, I tried it again last week with really nothing special in my mind just wanted to find better clubs than in Hessen, in conclusion no nude girls, no GFE, not 1 club better than the Hessen one, so my modest finding is just no need for me to return in NRW.

Pistons

02-20-17, 20:14

I have no idea if they have the taxi surcharge still. I don't take taxi there. It was a response to something said here by StrawJam...

Craiova: I don't fit together with clubs. I have sex with girls instead... but maybe I like alot of top girls gatherred in one big club instead of being spread out over 20 smaller nrw clubs... it would help my logistics budget alot. Oceans has potential. Right now, it needs help... if top girls leave, its not good...

StrawJam

02-20-17, 21:19

They have this taxi surcharge to clients again? Or still? Or they don't know? Or depends on face of client? Has been told they don't have it anymore. Only ridiculous this dive same as you therefore you both fit perfect together.Looks like I got the taxi rip off wrong, I didn't know they stopped it. They should never have started the taxi charges in the first place. I never got caught out by it thanks to the forum but saw a few guys getting stung. But the LU must have improved massively if there are large groups of quality girls there. Its so dark in there it makes the girls look a little better which is just another one of their con tricks. I saw most of the daytime LU last summer in the garden and there were no quality girls in the day. Maximum 3 girls were 6.5 the rest of the girls were 5's. I also went on a Thursday night during the European football and there was a maximum 25 girls with a boring atmosphere and only 3 girls rated a maximum 7. They also try to up sell everything cum on the boobs some girls want 25 euro extra.

The best LU I saw this weekend was Samya but still only a good top 5 or 6 girls the rest the usual mix. I learn't from getting to LR too late so I got to Samya before 7 pm where I was able to scan nearly the whole LU. I was with Hilary a 19 year old ROM a solid 8 from me. Slim size 6 but not too skinny, nice quality see tits and tight arse. She has just gotten some diamond studs in her pussy. Service was really good nice deep blowjob enthusiastic and the sex many positions with her doing most of the work (I went to the room twice with her because I enjoyed her a lot). It was a really good night I loved the atmosphere in there with everyone dancing and the music was good until 2 am then went too Turkish so I left around 2.30 am. Food also good.

Horny Harry

02-20-17, 21:41

Marketing campaign. Funny.
Oceans has potential. Right now, it needs help... if top girls leave, its not good...So it needs help? And how does it need help? From a marketing campaign on ISG perhaps?

Pistons

02-20-17, 21:51

It needs help from people going there telling the manager what they dislike about it instead of whining on a forum.

PussyLiccker

02-20-17, 23:59

It was my choice to visit Oceans again as the place fit better for my schedule (I knew what was coming as I've been therr on the weekend in the past, but also curious, for 30, not much loss to peak in), but looking back, Samya or Aca are clearly much better alternatives for a Fri or Sat night.

Actually Sofi (supposed, ex-Globe) wasn't facially pretty (What I realized is that up close or better lighting, these hot chicks are not all facially pretty, but got nice bods) under better light, but boy is she very attractive (for me) or pretty overall.

Surprised she got me to nut with her looks at the state I was at after days of several sessions, it was her baingin body. Worth it given relative service levels there, might as well fuck a hottie. Haha. That bangin body was worth the 50.

Interestingly she feels good although her service is restrictive and seems amatuerish. She seems like a nice and accomodating. I think she is capable of GFE, but didn't kiss.

Sunday was slow, about 20 gals? But, about 5 I can easily do for looks. Ambiance is much more relaxing (not brotenwurst fest like peak weekend nights) and the girl that I thought looked stuck up on busy night wasn't really when the busoness was slow.

4/7 easy picks are present in slow days this time so I saw there was no need to visit during peak times (since it's terrible).

The lighting is dim on peak hrs, and when you see these chicks unded real night, you will see they are not all that facially pretty.

Elenony is smokin though. My lord. Too bad her service pretty standard. Highly repeatable if good.

Be warned guys, they have different color bands for first-timers. The girl will be on the lookout as a newb for make their own pricing. LOL.

Arrive in taxi, you must pay 65 rule goes on.

Their meals are huge proportions, even bigger than in USA! LOL. The dish is like huge Columb BBQ plates.

Quality Ala Carte. If you do frei entry and must spend 15 Euros, do the ala carte.

My thoughts is there is too many clubs. Wish the Oceans hotties were working at Aca for 40 with cheap happy HR entry.

Oceans soft drinks is 2 Euros a pop (tiny bottles) if you opt for 15 Euros spent or pseudo frei entry, and if you stay long with much thirst, will add up, so think about that.

Wish all clubs did self-serve soft drink fountains especially oceans with 30 Euros option, would be enticing.

The Turkish clientel is like Aca types on slow days IMO, they sit for long time, and at the close to leaving time, they get up and take the girls.

It is also like highschool prom here like Aca, girls opposite staying put at the bar, not much interacrive unlike Samya.

Pistons

02-21-17, 00:33

I think they just increased the size of those food plates past new year. Like 50% larger now than they were back in december. So it is a good deal if you have the a la carte. Sucks if you don't and have to pay for it as many of the options are 25 euro since they are so big. But there was one option with pommes frites and some chicken with salad for 12 ish euro also. Same size as the 25 euro massive plates too. At least they are so big that I doubt anybody need more than 2 meals of that size for an entire day...

Eleny has the prettiest face of the girls I agree and the deep yellow blonde hairstyle fits her well. About as pretty as Andra. If Andra is gone, then Eleny has the prettiest face alone on top at oceans. Body-wise Alina is at the same level though and her butt is perhaps one of the sexiest ever at any fkk's. So she likes to show it of in a thong while most other girls wear dresses. Or she wears a condom dress which makes it show well. She is the black haired new best friend of Eleny. I bet you saw them together. Like the light and darkness, black and blonde haired, ying and yang duo they seemed to have become.

PussyLiccker

02-21-17, 00:37

Pistons

02-21-17, 00:39

Yup, saw them together. My Elena is your Alina? Brunette. Sexy lips, very flirty, grinds the hell out of ya? If so, that is her.

Elony is very slim, and Elena is slim with curves, sexy. Different looks even for body.Dude, you got to look at the sign in chart at the room key book by the reception for spellings. This is confusing. But it is probably the same girls yes. They are both quite petite. Hard to say, but less than or about 1. 60 I think for both, take away their high heels. Same height.

Eleny is very fit. Don't know if slim is the right word. She has power... but may look slim sometimes if she hasnt eaten enough yes. No stand out muscles though even if her ass has this shaped look to it...

I doubled up on them this time as I was unable to decide which one to pick first... I never do that, but in a way it worked even though single sessions would be a better use of my money... 2 girls for 1 hour... triple kissing in the middle is not a bad idea even if it is a tricky thing to do... As I said in my report, they were on fire. Guess the fitness thingy helps them...

PussyLiccker

02-21-17, 00:44

I just spell it like I heard it during boomy ambiance.

True Eleny is tight toned bod. Fit is right way to put it.

Sirioja

02-21-17, 00:51

So lets see;.

1) Confusion about names?

2) Confusion about entry prices?

3) Confusion about service prices?

Sounds like a Turkish bazaar, no thanks.When Oceans opened on November 2014, they aimed to become a high level club with 200 girls, but you are right and for a French like me, unhonest desk just behave like Turkish bazaar with entry rate depending on your origin and native language, what is called discrimination, and Turkish clients will never make work 200 girls. Beautiful girls were not busy at all, waiting for business on Thursday night, when many turkish were sitting all night like at Sharks.

Nevertheless, the prettiest girl and very smiling, seen on my 4 days extended week end at Oceans, Sharks, Palace and Aca, was superb blond German Emma. I didn't go with her because she said not kissing and I hate to be frustrated in room, but maybe I should have tried to play my game with her. Her beauty worth.

Pistons

02-21-17, 00:58

I just spell it like I heard it during boomy ambiance.

True Eleny is tight toned bod. Fit is right way to put it.Eleny likes a good fuck. She also grinds well cowgirl. Fit girls want it hard though, so get pumped up for her. But don't ruin her, she is a gem. She is perhaps a bit shy in her own way to get too much into the GFE thingy as she is somewhat young still. Even if that might be hard to see if you only look at her presentation in the lounge. Just got to break the ice with humor or some other things. Alina has as I said before alot of GFE potential, but less of that ice. I think perhaps she has matured a bit with her service and seduction skills since I first saw her in September.

They also had a little bj competition going on, but I have to say that is a dead even. Didnt feel a tooth a single time and sloppy wet with good trust, and nice teases. So good going!

Too bad there are no pics of these girls. Would have shut the mouth on posters like HornyHarry, lol

Sirioja

02-21-17, 01:05

Me and takedown also got sirioja to try palace after 100 pro sharks posts lured him into a wasteful night there... then again it seems me and PL allways goes for different types of girls. I don't think I've ever read a review from him on a girl I have also tried...Yes, thanks again to you and take. I would not have visited Palace and discovered magic eyes, cute Lucy. De, now dark blond. And I think, I will return to fight with Oceans desk, to try to work with Emma, I can't miss to taste such a beauty. No Lucy and no Emma at Sharks.

PussyLiccker

02-21-17, 01:10

So, it seems they changed the taxi policy. Must pay full 65 entry required if arrive by taxi. The extra teriff for taxi arrival is taken out.

Many other clubs have happy HR specials, you can arrive by taxi and pay the discount entry anywhere from free to 50.

I essense different entry per how you arrive(by taxi or not) is not right. Also, the teriff they had. It's not a matter of how they incentivise drivers. It's about charging a straight entry pricing.

McAdonis

02-21-17, 02:32

The best LU I saw this weekend was Samya but still only a good top 5 or 6 girls the rest the usual mix. I learn't from getting to LR too late so I got to Samya before 7 pm where I was able to scan nearly the whole LU. I was with Hilary a 19 year old ROM a solid 8 from me. Slim size 6 but not too skinny, nice quality see tits and tight arse. She has just gotten some diamond studs in her pussy. Service was really good nice deep blowjob enthusiastic and the sex many positions with her doing most of the work (I went to the room twice with her because I enjoyed her a lot).Was also at Oceans and Samya this weekend. Samya's LU was clearly better for me as well. Saw at least four Samya WGs that I had previously sessioned, plus at least two WGs that I was interested in sampling. One of them was Heidi, so thanks! Other was Franceska, who has been there for a while but I never got around to trying her. Both were topless.

At Oceans, didn't see a single girl that I had previously sessioned. Some lukewarm interest in two girls, but I didn't even bother to ask for their names.

Horny Harry

02-21-17, 07:49

It needs help from people going there telling the manager what they dislike about it instead of whining on a forum.So after I've potentially wasted 50-100 or more EUR on a girl and having wasted 50-60 (or more?) EUR on an entrance fee, it's now suddenly my job to go to some lazy 'manager' and tell him how he should run the place? 🙄 You've got to be fucking kidding me! I go to an FKK to get laid and have a good time, not to give free management classes.

What's the point anyway of going to complain to a 'manager' when this very same 'Turkish bazaar manager' tries to rip off as many customers as possible himself with various entrance fees? No thanks, I have no desire to act as a Guinea pig / test rabbit just because some people do not know or care to know how to properly run an FKK.

Maybe you're right and Oceans has great potential and it could perhaps be a very nice FKK if they would have stuck to the standard FKK concept (60-65 EUR entrance fee with food and drinks included, and a transparent price structure). But nooooooo, Oceans wanted to squeeze the maximum out of the orange/customer and instead created a confusing upsell web regarding prices, names of girls, and services provided.

I wish you lots of fun with your 9's and 10's, haggling about prices like in a bazaar, and lengthy arguments with the manager arguing about how to run an FKK, but I think I'll wait until management changes.

PussyLiccker

02-21-17, 08:57

Horny, I like the 30 Euros option or the frei cards given out. If it wasn't for that I wouldn't stop by given the relative service levels there (low). To see if there are some lookers with the reduced entry makes the place a flexable option for a stop-by to check out the talent.

Even with low services, it's the type of optics there has me checking the place out. There are more regular Romies that show on slow days as well, but also some random chicks.

Although my service stats is low here, 1 girl I seen there from YY is excellent. A German that I saw at Oceans and met at YY was a great provider.

As much as I like Aca, this place does currently have my interest due to the types of girls I see there.

Won't say it's any more "fun" than Aca, and I hate the dimmed lighting. I want to be able to makeout the girls in a reasonable distance to make approach worthwhile. Also, girls do a lot of makeup especially for peak busy nights and advantageous as the lighting is dimmed. So has the appearance of hot. Take out all that makeup and hairdo's, and compare the looks with other clubs with girls thats keeps it plainer.

Aca and Samya is lighted enough, and girls don't enhance their looks, so for Oceans that can have a good effect on how you see the girl in dim lighting.

Much darker than place like Sharks even. Sharks is not bad.

If any of yall are looking to check the place out, go on a slow business or relaxxed day or time. As I already wrote, show up at nigb for a reasonable quantity of girls, and avoid the fuck out of Fri or Sat! It's bad. I crappes on this club so many times based on weekend visits.

Also, girl approach is so much better at LR. You know that bullshit professional vibe approach at Artemis, Palace, Paradise? Be warned.

Pistons

02-21-17, 14:32

So after I've potentially wasted 50-100 or more EUR on a girl and having wasted 50-60 (or more?) EUR on an entrance fee, it's now suddenly my job to go to some lazy 'manager' and tell him how he should run the place? 🙄 You've got to be fucking kidding me! I go to an FKK to get laid and have a good time, not to give free management classes.I get in for 25 euro before 1500, with a massive a la carte and free drinks included. Which is even a better deal than the 'free entry' option nowadays if you plan to stay. Then I relax for a few hours before I fuck a petite pornstar. What is wasted money is up to you to decide for yourself. Posting in here is also your decission. Same as reading this thread. If living in Japan or USA you 'waste' perhaps 600 euro before you even get started. So everything is relative. If you buy a ferrari or a porche, you waste alot on the initial expenses too. Not to mention fuel.

At other clubs I potentially waste 50-80 euro sometimes without having a clue about the lineup... and where all I get is free dogfood... life is a risk. Unless you take some, you'll be bored to death...

I think I've mainly done sunday and thursday visits at Oceans. Only two or three times on fri/sat. Maybe the sunday and thursdays has made me get to know the regular girls there better. Friday and saturdays does have more girls though. Normally I see 50-60 girls there throughout a whole thur/sun, and 70-80 on a fri/sat... so you will miss out on a short few girls if you skip the weekend, but nothing must see. Maybe 2-3 extra doable girls, but not much you cannot find find from the regular crowd. Maybe one or two high service milfs in the weekend extras, if you are into that though... the fly by night girls (which I look for at Oceans) mostly come for extended weekends though, so I wouldnt do mondays and tuesdays. Then also some regulars take one of those days of too...

it is the club with the most girls I think among the nrw clubs. A notch ahead of aca and gt... but slightly less girls than at oase and even palace... do note that while the hessen clubs normally have 2 shifts, nrw clubs to a larger extent only have one... even if they try to move towards two...

PL: that haggling at those clubs mentionned there are an overly exaggerated generalization of them... if a girl start to haggle with prices with me, I'm gone for her. She is knocked of my list for a long time, and I may even tell other punters about it also... it doesnt happen too often even at the clubs you mentionned. And not more than at places like gt, sharks, oase etc... I know there are or has been 2-3 bad mines floating around at palace, paradise and artemis. But I don't generalize a club because of 2-3 girls... maybe the vibe you talk about is more an illusion due to the ambience and lighting. I dont know...

PussyLiccker

02-21-17, 15:29

Pistons

02-21-17, 15:42

Pistons, after you've done several rounds and done good numbers of them at NRW, we can talk.

Your background in choices of clubs, isn't good. They are similar ambiance and girl interactions, and upselling is higher.

Until then, try to refrain from blogging limited experiences. LOL.I just know that I hardly get upsells if I have visited a club a few times and the girls recognize me. While in any new clubs I have gone to it seems more prevalent. I guess it is the same mechanisms HB has hinted at also. GT for example where they took me for a newbie except that one german I knew well from artemis. Got a few nrw clubs on my to do list this year, but normally that requires me to knock other well known clubs of my list. So we'll see when. Aca is perhaps closest at the moment from what I hear.

But there might be something into what many girls say about strict service rules at Living Room. Unless they comply, they get kicked out. So you get more of a theatrical act. And some girls are good at that. I do wonder how Dea from Oceans is doing at LR if that is the case seeing how you did her at Oceans and were rather unhappy about it. If you want to be a guinnea pig, it would be cool if you tried her again at LR to see if the club itself has made a change...

At other clubs without that it can be more ymmv and more honest chemistry... I just don't know if I would like that whole boring ambience with the smoke filled lounge that LR seems to have... but maybe a niche for that special day...

ExpatLover

02-21-17, 20:12

When Oceans opened on November 2014, they aimed to become a high level club with 200 girls, but you are right and for a French like me, unhonest desk just behave like Turkish bazaar with entry rate depending on your origin and native language, what is called discrimination, and Turkish clients will never make work 200 girls. Beautiful girls were not busy at all, waiting for business on Thursday night, when many turkish were sitting all night like at Sharks.

Nevertheless, the prettiest girl and very smiling, seen on my 4 days extended week end at Oceans, Sharks, Palace and Aca, was superb blond German Emma. I didn't go with her because she said not kissing and I hate to be frustrated in room, but maybe I should have tried to play my game with her. Her beauty worth.Hi Sirioja,

If I understood well you already went to Palace why not visiting Shark, Rom, World, or Oase, despite driving so many km back to NRW?

Sirioja

02-21-17, 20:25

Sirioja

02-21-17, 22:12

Hi Sirioja,

If I understood well you already went to Palace why not visiting Shark, Rom, World, or Oase, despite driving so many km back to NRW?I have to return to give a look at World casting at the moment, for Amira. Ro, Anjelina. Ro and Ariana. Ro, but Sharks and Oase don't worth for my tastes for classy, sensual women, at the moment. I drive at night, when just leaving clubs, to avoid traffic and to check the balance grip. So funny when I was beyond grip on dry 4 lines autobahn, south of Lohmar, with Xdrive, using 4 lines to drift. Germans didn't seem to like.

Pistons

02-22-17, 00:09

Alina's high five as soon as she saw me is a great start. Once you get to that point of (no?) return, you might want to go back a few times extra...

Sirioja: well, I have a long time friend as a local sharks regular who pointed you out. The guy who introduced me to german fkk's. I swear I didn't use that map where you were marked. Hehe.

TheRugdr

02-24-17, 19:50

Went to Oceans for the first time today. Usually while in Dusseldorf, I go to my old, dependable fav, Living Room, but decided to try something new.

This place is huge compared to Living Room. Very high ceilings and very open, spacious feel to it. I arrived at 14:30, and paid the 25 euro entry fee (before 15:00 special). This is one hell of a deal. I always go to the FKKs / Saunas early in the day and leave by 8 pm, so this deal was perfect for me. Had a great salad topped with grilled shrimp (other people were chomping down giant steak lunches). Had about 4 beers during my time there as well. 4 beers and a nice lunch would cost my way over 25 euros elsewhere (without a receiving the benefit of a sauna club entry).

There were a few lookers there. My first session was a threesome with Romanian blonds Helena and Carina. They claim to be sisters. I've heard this before and was skeptical even though they look like the could be, and they "proved" it to me by showing matching tattoos honoring their brother back home. So, either they really are sisters, or they went to great lengths to create the ruse. The session was fine. Had to pay an extra 50 each for DFK, and other freakier things like ball licking by one while the other sucks cock. So, total damage was 200 (100 to each girl).

2nd session was dreadful. I think her name was Adalina (60% sure that was her name. Dark haired, petite Romanian with sexy black stockings and a ring on her lip). She was very cold. She got pissy with me when she didn't succeed in an upsell for DFK or CIM. She was a starfish during missionary and in all positions she was very disinterested, always with her head turned to the side, never once glancing my way. When I paid her after the session, she grabbed the money and turned and left without saying a word. Every other girl I've ever sessioned with at an FKK would exchange pleasantries ("nice to meet you," "thank you," "have a good night," etc.) and exchange a final kiss, but not this girl. Worst FKK session I've ever had, and I've had a ton of them.

I will return to Oceans though. I still prefer the small, friendly atmosphere of Living Room, as well as their great staff and far superior service (in my opinion, the best in Germany), but I will likely return once or twice to Oceans for the 25 euro deal and enjoy a nice meal with some beers.

Banana Boi

02-24-17, 22:14

The session was fine. Had to pay an extra 50 each for DFK, and other freakier things like ball licking by one while the other sucks cock. So, total damage was 200 (100 to each girl).Please try refraining from this in NRW. Yes this is standard pricing in much of Hessen but definitely not NRW. DFK and ball sucking should all be included in the normal 50 euro.

BigBuddy69

02-24-17, 22:21

So funny when I was beyond grip on dry 4 lines autobahn, south of Lohmar, with Xdrive, using 4 lines to drift. Germans didn't seem to like.Yes, they don't like serial killers wannabes. If you want to drive like some 15 yo teenager who thinks that life is like a videogame, why don't you go to racing tracks?

Hessen Bub

02-24-17, 22:39

Yes, they don't like serial killers wannabes. If you want to drive like some 15 yo teenager who thinks that life is like a videogame, why don't you go to racing tracks?Dreamed girls. Dreamed drives.

HB.

Mr Ho

02-25-17, 13:09

What is the name of this Polish girl who is model type, often have pony tailed, brunette, big eye, typical Polish beauty face, not big tits, no tattoo, around 170 cm model type. Seems to come into floor around 5 Pm or 6 Pm.

Sorry this is best I can describe. Does this ring the bell?

ExpatLover

02-25-17, 21:17

PussyLiccker

02-26-17, 10:33

Mr Ho, that's what you get from stopping by Venlo. LOL.

How comes I don't run into these hot Germans or model type Polish you guys are mentioning at Oceans? LOL. Perhaps they are there when I'm not there, or in the rooms. The only standout hotties I've met were Romies. For me, it's another Romy land I guess due to they are the ones I mainly notice there. There has been couple Germans in the past met, one from Hamburg.

Oh yeah, and the Albanian girl that BB knows about.

2nd session was dreadful. I think her name was Adalina (60% sure that was her name. Dark haired, petite Romanian with sexy black stockings and a ring on her lip). She was very cold. She was a starfish during missionary and in all positions she was very disinterested, always with her head turned to the side, never once glancing my way. When I paid her after the session, she grabbed the money and turned and left without saying a word. Every other girl I've ever sessioned with at an FKK would exchange pleasantries ("nice to meet you," "thank you," "have a good night," etc.) and exchange a final kiss, but not this girl. Worst FKK session I've ever had, and I've had a ton of them.Sounds like my session with Dea who claimed Rus, but Ro. She was cold, my worst session at Oceans. She tried out LR, wasn't really that busy. Oceans somewhat due to guys just taking her on looks. I asked the man at LR how her service was, and he said pretty bad. And a buddy said the same at Oceans, a real disaster. I haven't seen her around since then.

Mr Ho

02-26-17, 13:09

Pistons

02-26-17, 18:24

Sorry but I don't understand your comment, had a session with Alina, what to say nice girl but will not repeat.Maybe ymmv. She is a little moody on day form sometimes. But with me she has also improved on each session we've had too.

Sirioja

02-26-17, 18:46

Yes, they don't like serial killers wannabes. If you want to drive like some 15 yo teenager who thinks that life is like a videogame, why don't you go to racing tracks?Facts are: no crash for about 200 000 kms in Germany for 4 years and half, mostly at night, under rain, even it was very close in Velbert on this Saturday when leaving Aca. Some Germans don't seem to know how work turning lights on their car, to change direction.

ExpatLover

02-26-17, 20:17

Maybe ymmv. She is a little moody on day form sometimes. But with me she has also improved on each session we've had too.Agree it is probably a problem of chemistry between us but I don t know why for me everything is so easier in Hessen FKK, many girls know me, are just happy to go with me in the room (I agree never go for 50 euros, or just with a new girl I am not happy give her 50 euros and leave the room), can mostly do what I want, don t care about finger, this or that, just enjoy relaxing sex in full respect of the women.

Pistons

02-26-17, 22:14

Anybody know of a killer kebab place near Oceans by the way? 15 min drive is fine, or in dusseldorf or even cologne. I am thinking when staying all at Oceans from 1400, maybe once I will be very hungry, so 2 of these massive meals won't cut it with 4 sessions. And a 3rd meal will actually make oceans expensive...

Berlin quality kebab that is (not going to eat the mystery meat 60% fat kebabs I normally find most other places than berlin). But only the ones where you can actually see the meat lines (or whatever that is called).

McAdonis

02-26-17, 22:26

Anybody know of a killer kebab place near Oceans by the way? 15 min drive is fine, or in dusseldorfDene Gor near Main Station

FB page says "Always Open". Google says it closes at 1 am. I've been there on weekends at like 5 am. Weekdays 2 am. Even at these times still lines of people. Suppose you can call. They have a special with extra meat 4,60 EUR with veal meat (Kalbfleisch). Quality fresh bread even late at night. It is a big portion. Takeaway with an outdoor table and a few seats inside, but door is always open because as mentioned earlier, there is always a line. It tastes best while still warm.

Yede Gor has longer official hours but I like Dene Gor more. There is also a sit down restaurant that is open 24 hours on weekends called Saray

PussyLiccker

02-27-17, 04:57

I remember other girl though, which was Eleny.I did finally run into a good service provider. Meggie (or Megan) a pretty and cute faced Bulgarian that was too wild for me to handle. LOL. She is light brunette (or dark blonde) in poneytail, and was wearing a black bikini with a nice slim bod, 167. I was certainly attracted to her once I laid my eyes on her, but she was a bit aggressive in approach, constantly come by trying to get me to go. Matter a fact, most of the girls at Oceans are not like that. She works really hard trying to get a lot of rooms I believe.

Her performance was good (and potential for great as she seems unrestrictive, she is kinda crazy or wild, a bit coo coo IMO), but she packs her things to head out after I've shot, doesn't stick around full half hr paid for(perhaps the standard at Oceans is leave after the shot). Matter a fact, I've ran into many girls that does this at Oceans. Only other club I have run into this lately is PHG (I reported on changes at this club). I usually don't run into this at the other Turkish clubs like Aca, Samya, Mondial.

Oh yeah, she does anal, 50 Euros is her price for it.

Mr Ho

02-27-17, 08:49

I did finally run into a good service provider. Meggie (or Megan) a pretty and cute faced Bulgarian that was too wild for me to handle. LOL. She is light brunette (or dark blonde) in poneytail, and was wearing a black bikini with a nice slim bod, 167. I was certainly attracted to her once I laid my eyes on her, but she was a bit aggressive in approach, constantly come by trying to get me to go. Matter a fact, most of the girls at Oceans are not like that. She works really hard trying to get a lot of rooms I believe.

Her performance was good (and potential for great as she seems unrestrictive, she is kinda crazy or wild, a bit coo coo IMO), but she packs her things to head out after I've shot, doesn't stick around full half hr paid for(perhaps the standard at Oceans is leave after the shot). Matter a fact, I've ran into many girls that does this at Oceans. Only other club I have run into this lately is PHG (I reported on changes at this club). I usually don't run into this at the other Turkish clubs like Aca, Samya, Mondial.

Oh yeah, she does anal, 50 Euros is her price for it.Haha, usually 50 euro session turn girls off, but we get lucky sometimes.

Over all oceans did lowest service quality in all NRW clubs I went that are limited experience, but I sure loved stunners in oceans though man, they got some real ugly line up till 6 PM. 6 PM on, stunner begin to show up. No wonder entrance fee is so cheap there before certain hour as LU is horrible.

Also taxi rumor is true. But you can get there easily with train and bus that stops like 50 m before oceans. Return I just took taxi to Düsseldorf main station and it was 35 euro.

Pistons

02-27-17, 19:27

Yede Gor has longer official hours but I like Dene Gor more. There is also a sit down restaurant that is open 24 hours on weekends called SarayYede Gor is the one I tried and was told by a local was good. I didn't like the mystery meat they were using though. Felt rather ordinary, and not the quality you get in Berlin as I was hoping to find:

My Berlin go to place is Bistro Fadi at Stuttgarter platz, charlottenburg.

ExpatLover

02-27-17, 20:10

Haha, usually 50 euro session turn girls off, but we get lucky sometimes.

Over all oceans did lowest service quality in all NRW clubs I went that are limited experience, but I sure loved stunners in oceans though man, they got some real ugly line up till 6 PM. 6 PM on, stunner begin to show up. No wonder entrance fee is so cheap there before certain hour as LU is horrible.

Also taxi rumor is true. But you can get there easily with train and bus that stops like 50 m before oceans. Return I just took taxi to Dsseldorf main station and it was 35 euro.Not so sure that the LU is better after 6 PM, was there 2 days in raw last week and I had not notice the improvement of the LU. It is also easy to sleep at the B&B just 10 minutes by walk from the club.

Hessen Bub

02-27-17, 21:57

I didn't like the mystery meat they were using though. Felt rather ordinary, and not the quality you get in Berlin as I was hoping to find:

My Berlin go to place is Bistro Fadi at Stuttgarter platz, charlottenburg.Never heard about the Turkish theöner mafia in Germany? It's all the same shit.

HB.

Mr Ho

02-28-17, 02:39

Not so sure that the LU is better after 6 PM, was there 2 days in raw last week and I had not notice the improvement of the LU. It is also easy to sleep at the B&B just 10 minutes by walk from the club.Oh so I was there on lucky day then LOL.

When I went there around 3 or 4 PM ish, LU was so horrible that I was so depressed, then I patently waited till 6 PM ish hoping it will improve will night shift walking in and two or three stunners did walk in to main bar, so I was made.

But without them. It would have been horrible LU.

Pistons

02-28-17, 02:51

Never heard about the Turkish thener mafia in Germany? It's all the same shit.

HB.Kebab outlets all over europe are somewhat fringy. And many are lazy with the meat ordering. But some places have better meat than others, and are less involved with crap meat distribution methods from terrible origins. Berlin is well known for some of the best, if not the best kebabs in europe, but I was hoping it was not only Berlin, but also other places in Germany. So far though I've only found bad places in frankfurt, dusseldorf or stuttgart.

ExpatLover: if you didnt see lineup improving at Oceans past 6-8pm, I gotta ask if you went to Venlo before entering?

McAdonis

02-28-17, 03:51

I've only found bad places in frankfurt, dusseldorf or stuttgart.
Alaturka, Stuttgart. Official close time is 8 pm, but they sometimes close early at 4 pm if they run out of food. At lunch time, always minimum 30 minutes wait. Legendary.

NRW has highest concentration of Turkish people outside of Turkey. I'd recommend Oruc, Cologne. But they close early too. I assumed you wanted places that were open late. But yes, I agree Yede Gor is not that great. But better than what they serve at Samya or Acapulco though.

Bayram Kebab in the Frankfurt RLD is open late into the night. But I get tripe soup there. Koylu Kebab has fewer options, but I don't advise driving there. Streets are filled with drunk kids partying on the weekend.

Pistons

02-28-17, 04:30

assumed you wanted places that were open late. On the contrary, I wanted an early one. Before entering the FKK. After I am done at the FKK, sleep is best unless you just go to have a snack because you are either not tired, or want to eat to be social. And it is not good to eat before going to bed out of digestive reasons. Only if you are drunk and want to get that headache gone. But I don't drink when I drive, so no need for that.

Thanks for tips on places to look out for.

PussyLiccker

02-28-17, 06:32

Hessen Bub

02-28-17, 09:34

http://www.focus.de/finanzen/news/ekelfleisch_aid_115003.html

HB.

Horny Harry

02-28-17, 10:51

http://www.focus.de/finanzen/news/ekelfleisch_aid_115003.html

HB.Yeah I remember that, it was a big scandal. I was fairly new in Germany at that time, and it was the first major wake up call that things are not organised as efficiently and beautifully as the Germans say and think they are.

I saw a documentary (I think it was on Channel4 or the BBC) about this Gammelfleisch from Bavaria, and foreign experts were stunned at how amateuristic the Germans track food. Of course you won't see this kind of documentary or criticism on German TV, their job is (just like in the 1930's and in the DDR) to brainwash the 'sheeple' (sheep + people = sheeple) that all is well.

A few years later the EHEC e-coli breakout proved that not much had changed: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Germany_E._coli_O104:H4_outbreak.

Just compare the choice (and price!) of meat and vegetables in German supermarket to for example a supermarket in The Netherlands and you'll see what I mean. Lot's of people from the Ruhrgebiet drive to Venlo or Roermond to buy fresh vegetables in Dutch supermarkets, while the second grade vegetables are exported from The Netherlands to. Germany. Why can't Germany import first grade veggies from The Netherlands? Simple, the Germans get brainwashed into believing that paying twice as much for second grade vegetables is normal, just like they get brainwashed into believing that it's normal to pay KFZ tax and have rotting bridges and roads full of holes, or paying for 3 G / LTE and get GPRS.

Pistons

02-28-17, 13:57

I guess I'm not a Doner connoisseur. I like the stuff, but I see it as any other fast food (more or less the same). I can't tell much of a difference from quality to less if there is. What is the quality differences from the good stuff to not?How fresh the salad is, and the meat quality. Too bad for me, pretty much every single doner I find anywhere has bad quality. Only Berlin is good for me. Though I hear rumors of other places with the same quality of meat also. Salad is important too, but not as much as the meat in my eyes.

Google that place I mentionned in berlin Bistro Fadi and there may be a pic on google maps where you can spot some of the meat... it is not the fatty shit that makes your stomach revolt...

Then there are other small things they do also, like the iron heating (bistro fadi does this) instead of the bad microoven heating so many of the crap places use... or a good sause. But I dont care too much about the sause... heating is important though...

Had simillair stories of that german doner mafia story in my country. And they even once found rat meat in the mix also. Thus I call it mystery meat, since it is a big mystery what you get, and I allways avoid it when you cannot see the meat stripes themselves... They found sperm in the sause at one place too...

Horny Harry: this is not germans. It is turks... or arabs mostly smugling the meat in vans driving all the way from turkey with bad, or no refrigeration... And to those calling them germans if they get this paper called a citizenship, with a stamp on. You are fools!

Now german mindset on food is truthfully quite questionable. But I think that is more due to how the crap stores of aldi and lidl has grown so large in influense. The german mindset on food is price>>>>>>>quality... but maybe the poor/rich divide is also to blame, with 8-9 million germans living below the poverty line now... quite inhumane in such a country. But I guess it happens all over these days. Politicians not having control over the capitalists. And one starts to wonder why there are lots of german girls outcompeting the romanians at fkk's?

Do note however that the new German law going into effect on 1.july restricting the amount of lisenses of brothels in germany is unlawful according to EFTA. So one has to take their hat and leave. But I hope the german law wins in this case. Gotta wonder if other sides of the new law is also against EFTA regulations... goes to show how clearly newbish most politicians are however... bring this into the light, and one could potentially push the whole thing back another 9 months...

Hessen Bub

02-28-17, 16:16

Many (most) Germans are buying cheap food. The cheaper the better. They don't realize they are buying crap when pork is 2,50 EUR / kg. They don't care, they eat cheap meat every day.

HB.

Sirioja

02-28-17, 19:47

Many (most) Germans are buying cheap food. The cheaper the better. They don't realize they are buying crap when pork is 2,50 EUR / kg. They don't care, they eat cheap meat every day.

HB.Same with girls? Everything for 50? With poor Romanians or Bulgarians.

McAdonis

02-28-17, 22:31

Salad is important too, but not as much as the meat in my eyes.
https://youtu.be/OZwR7KPVgeg

Meat, bread, grilled vegetables freshness and quality can be seen at Alaturka.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Alaturka/177938952252712

Pictures of the meat quality and long queues of people waiting.

PussyLiccker

02-28-17, 23:08

Looks Delicious Mc. Looks quality. Meat looks different. Need to try quality Kebab if there are ones nearby Duss, Koln, or Fra. Preferbly of the same quality as the place you linked.

Pistons

02-28-17, 23:58

That one seems to get a thumbs up from me McA. Same quality as the one in berlin it seems. Problem is it is in stuttgart and not duss.

McAdonis

03-01-17, 00:04

Looks Delicious Mc. Looks quality. Meat looks different. Need to try quality Kebab if there are ones nearby Duss, Koln, or Fra. Preferbly of the same quality as the place you linked.Haven't found a place like Alaturka (Stuttgart).

Oruc Kebap in Cologne is good.

You can have it delivered if staying near Cologne center:

https://www.foodora.de/en/restaurant/s9af/oruc-kebap

Cologne you can actually find Kebap with lamb meat, which is more traditional. I am by no means an expert. Would need Iceberg to review these places for authenticity.

Mr Ho

03-01-17, 04:26

Many (most) Germans are buying cheap food. The cheaper the better. They don't realize they are buying crap when pork is 2,50 EUR / kg. They don't care, they eat cheap meat every day.

HB.That is why so many German girls gain weight once they hit age of 30 LOL.

Vito Corleone

03-01-17, 07:10

Wow! The lineup in this club must be top notch when there's a full page of done talk!

Pistons

03-01-17, 16:50

Wow! The lineup in this club must be top notch when there's a full page of done talk!Is that your new metric? LOL.

Craiova

03-01-17, 17:10

Wow! The lineup in this club must be top notch when there's a full page of done talk!They just do a quality comparison between lineup of Oshits and a Kebap.

Sirioja

03-01-17, 21:33

They just do a quality comparison between lineup of Oshits and a Kebap.I hate Oceans desk behavior, but on my last visit, casting was the higher for look I saw among Sharks, Palace, LR, Aca. My only problem is girls saying not kissing, but I made a mistake, I should have played my game and can't miss to try a natural beauty like blond Emma. De, even losing 50. To return as soon I can.

Hessen Bub

03-01-17, 23:33

Same with girls? Everything for 50? With poor Romanians or Bulgarians.Sure. Plus cheapest entry. World or Sharks are full on discount days. Or Rom now with Monday / Wednesday and 25 EUR entry including another free entry.

HB.

Pistons

03-02-17, 01:58

Natural consequenses of the automated society. Falling prices. I read about Adidas speedfactory etc.

So where do we get the first p6 robot fkk? If girls turn more mechanical, the gap narrows... and craiova won't have to fixate on the sexual properties of a kebap any longer... although I do admit there are visual simillairities between a fleshlight and a doner... One is however already lubricated when sold. The other one is not.

Horny Harry

03-02-17, 09:21

So where do we get the first p6 robot fkk? If girls turn more mechanical, the gap narrows....Well.....now that you mention it, I saw the following on the news yesterday: https://www.n-tv.de/panorama/Erstes-Puppen-Bordell-in-Barcelona-article19725587.html.

A brothel with sex dolls just opened up in Barcelona!

Pistons

03-02-17, 17:00

Well.....now that you mention it, I saw the following on the news yesterday: https://www.n-tv.de/panorama/Erstes-Puppen-Bordell-in-Barcelona-article19725587.html.

A brothel with sex dolls just opened up in Barcelona! 😂.LOL yes, I just read the same story and was going to post about it in here also. Here is the Forbes article.

www.forbes.com/sites/ceciliarodriguez/2017/02/28/sex-dolls-brothel-opens-in-spain-and-many-predict-sex-robots-tourism-soon-to-follow/amp/

LOL.

PussyLiccker

03-02-17, 21:14

Well.....now that you mention it, I saw the following on the news yesterday: https://www.n-tv.de/panorama/Erstes-Puppen-Bordell-in-Barcelona-article19725587.html.

A brothel with sex dolls just opened up in Barcelona! 😂.Will these artificial tutes e-upsell? Probably got a clever algorithm for newbies / tourist types.

Begin face recognition sequence.

Beep beep. Newbie tourist detected. Tell him, I am a doll made in Italy, Spain, not Romania. Increase price by 100% for robotic mechanical DFK. Restrict services to suck and fuck, if don't comply.

End program.

Mr Ho

03-04-17, 13:18

I hate Oceans desk behavior, but on my last visit, casting was the higher for look I saw among Sharks, Palace, LR, Aca. My only problem is girls saying not kissing, but I made a mistake, I should have played my game and can't miss to try a natural beauty like blond Emma. De, even losing 50. To return as soon I can.Beside this entry being 65 euro, the desk was nice when I went.

Later on the day I saw few arguments at desk between clients and desk though LOL LOL.

It was sounded for entry price LOL LOL They should just fix the entry prices LOL.

Sirioja

03-06-17, 23:11

Beside this entry being 65 euro, the desk was nice when I went.

Later on the day I saw few arguments at desk between clients and desk though LOL LOL.

It was sounded for entry price LOL LOL They should just fix the entry prices LOL.Where did you read Oceans entry is 65? No entry rate for 65 on internet, nor in club. 25 before 3 pm, 30 and 50, but I agree with you, the short black hair MILF on desk ask for and even write on a paper: entry is 65, and certainly keep 15 for her, but I don't pay to be fucked.

On last Thursday, woke up before 5 am, worked all day to make money, left Paris at 8 pm, pushed as hard as possible, even keeping on working all along, to arrive at midnight. I gave her 30, now she knows me, she took the money, no word. I returned for blond Emma. De, after preparing my mind for a not kissing, but really splendid girl, but unfortunately no Emma. Only great body Sofi. Ro and a cute blond seen 2 weeks ago, but I came only for splendid Emma with: good, written behind her left leg and: wife, behind her right leg. So, I just asked for a fresh orange juice for 3 € and went to sleep in rest room, so at 5 am, when it closed and autobahns were free, I could go to play my favorite game.

I learned a new lesson: when you see a splendid girl in brothels, even I was not prepared in mind 2 weeks ago, for a not kissing girl, but I regret I didn't try with her.

ExpatLover

03-07-17, 04:37

Where did you read Oceans entry is 65? No entry rate for 65 on internet, nor in club. 25 before 3 pm, 30 and 50, but I agree with you, the short black hair MILF on desk ask for and even write on a paper: entry is 65, and certainly keep 15 for her, but I don't pay to be fucked.

On last Thursday, woke up before 5 am, worked all day to make money, left Paris at 8 pm, pushed as hard as possible, even keeping on working all along, to arrive at midnight. I gave her 30, now she knows me, she took the money, no word. I returned for blond Emma. De, after preparing my mind for a not kissing, but really splendid girl, but unfortunately no Emma. Only great body Sofi. Ro and a cute blond seen 2 weeks ago, but I came only for splendid Emma with: good, written behind her left leg and: wife, behind her right leg. So, I just asked for a fresh orange juice for 3 and went to sleep in rest room, so at 5 am, when it closed and autobahns were free, I could go to play my favorite game.

I learned a new lesson: when you see a splendid girl in brothels, even I was not prepared in mind 2 weeks ago, for a not kissing girl, but I regret I didn't try with her.Why not giving a call to the club to check if the girl is working, it is a least what I do.

Banana Boi

03-07-17, 05:14

Where did you read Oceans entry is 65? No entry rate for 65 on internetI believe it's if you arrive by taxi.

Craiova

03-07-17, 11:42

Pistons

03-07-17, 18:21

Well, it used to be 65 e if you included the free beers before 7 pm. Aside from that it was the same as the 50 e price. Silly offer though. Not sure if its changed.

Sirioja

03-07-17, 19:45

Why not giving a call to the club to check if the girl is working, it is a least what I do.I can call and trust at GT, LR, Samya, World, Mainhattan, Harmony Seevetal, but do you think I can trust anything from Oceans desk? Not anymore, but they tried to fuck for entry rate.

Mr Ho

03-08-17, 12:43

Where did you read Oceans entry is 65? No entry rate for 65 on internet, nor in club. 25 before 3 pm, 30 and 50, but I agree with you, the short black hair MILF on desk ask for and even write on a paper: entry is 65, and certainly keep 15 for her, but I don't pay to be fucked.

On last Thursday, woke up before 5 am, worked all day to make money, left Paris at 8 pm, pushed as hard as possible, even keeping on working all along, to arrive at midnight. I gave her 30, now she knows me, she took the money, no word. I returned for blond Emma. De, after preparing my mind for a not kissing, but really splendid girl, but unfortunately no Emma. Only great body Sofi. Ro and a cute blond seen 2 weeks ago, but I came only for splendid Emma with: good, written behind her left leg and: wife, behind her right leg. So, I just asked for a fresh orange juice for 3 and went to sleep in rest room, so at 5 am, when it closed and autobahns were free, I could go to play my favorite game.

I learned a new lesson: when you see a splendid girl in brothels, even I was not prepared in mind 2 weeks ago, for a not kissing girl, but I regret I didn't try with her.Yeah when you see the girl in FKK that you like, you got to take right away, I mean it is only 50 euro.

Haha LOL Woke up before 5 am in Paris LOL all the way to out skirt of Dusseldorf at night at oceans LOL LOL Things FKK makes you do hey? LOL.

Sirioja

03-08-17, 19:58

Yeah when you see the girl in FKK that you like, you got to take right away, I mean it is only 50 euro.

Haha LOL Woke up before 5 am in Paris LOL all the way to out skirt of Dusseldorf at night at oceans LOL LOL Things FKK makes you do hey? LOL.Emma. De is the prettiest girl I saw since a while, but I can't go with a girl who says not kissing, even I know sometimes she changes her mind in room because of our behavior, but too risky to be too frustrated for me, not at all about losing 50. I needed to prepare my mind to go with a not kissing girl, to fuck her only for her beauty, without my foreplay. Not at all my usual game, but wish to find her again.

When I decide, I don't need to sleep a night, so I have more time to enjoy my life than humans. Often play on free autobahns at night, between 5 am and opening on next day, or drive from Dusseldorf to Basel or Zurich, less traffic.

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Pistons

03-09-17, 00:04

I can call and trust at GT, LR, Samya, World, Mainhattan, Harmony Seevetal, but do you think I can trust anything from Oceans desk? Not anymore, but they tried to fuck for entry rate.Depends on who is manning the desk I suppose. There is this one guy there who is very helpful when I ask him who is working. But I think there are 4 different people manning the reception. 2 guys and 2 girls. At least if you include that one bouncer too.

Haha LOL Woke up before 5 am in Paris LOL all the way to out skirt of Dusseldorf at night at oceans LOL LOL Things FKK makes you do hey? LOL.

If I understand siri correct, he doesnt really mind the drive either... so it might be a bit of an excuse to step on the gas a little. Or do I get that wrong siri?

Sirioja

03-09-17, 00:07

Depends on who is manning the desk I suppose. There is this one guy there who is very helpful when I ask him who is working. But I think there are 4 different people manning the reception. 2 guys and 2 girls. At least if you include that one bouncer too.Always, short black hair MILF on Thursday nights, who try to fuck us about entry rate.

ExpatLover

03-09-17, 09:29

Always, short black hair MILF on Thursday nights, who try to fuck us about entry rate.Don't be sad turn the page, I think this will change nothing for you. Was there 3 times in the last weeks always ask me 25 euros including beers but I arrived early will not return just because don't like the LU, some girls trying to cheating me, easier for me to visit in Frankfurt where the girls know me.

PussyLiccker

03-09-17, 16:04

Describe Emma, De. I've seen really pretty black or dark brunette girl who I thought was German. One girl sounded like it when I spoke to her. One visit she was walking down the stairs as I was walking up and I was like damn, should have waited. Hate it when this happens. Who shows kinda crapshoot though even if these types pop up.

Exodus8

03-09-17, 17:03

PussyLiccker

03-09-17, 17:10

You should've ditched the girl in the stairways and take the hot gal to the room instead, LOL.All of a sudden I get a stomach ache as soon as I see the other girl. And then it goes away as soon as I get with the other girl. 😬.

Solo Traveler

03-09-17, 17:25

You should've ditched the girl in the stairways and take the hot gal to the room instead, LOL.But what about the other woman gets angry and ask for compensations?

Something like:"You waste my time. I could have gone with another client. You pay me 50 no matter what!

Will you pay her 50 as a "break up" fee?

Sirioja

03-09-17, 19:50

Don't be sad turn the page, I think this will change nothing for you. Was there 3 times in the last weeks always ask me 25 euros including beers but I arrived early will not return just because don't like the LU, some girls trying to cheating me, easier for me to visit in Frankfurt where the girls know me.Last time, I gave her 30, arriving just before midnight and no problem, because no word for her. I have to return because now I want to try blond, angel face, white skin, smiling Emma. De who is the prettiest girl I see in Germany at the moment, even saying not kissing, but who know what can happen in room?

PL, she is staying close to the bar close to the restaurant.

Pistons, when I wake up early, work all day, I feel asleep in traffic in Paris after work, so as soon I leave Paris, I push very hard to wake up and when I drive, mainly at night, when I arrive I feel like if I slept a good night. I feel relax because I feel safe even when I'm beyond the grip, so I feel better after long drive on free speed. Pushing is my yoga to relax.

PussyLiccker

03-09-17, 22:45

Oh her. Yeah, noticed her. A bit of a German porny style look with lots of makeup typical of Artemis? Didn't really talk to her myself. Can't say top optic at Oceans or top German look either, but if you think of her as angel face. LOL. Not too slim and womanly looking, no? Figured she was German. Not the one I was referring to.

Pistons

03-10-17, 00:58

You should've ditched the girl in the stairways and take the hot gal to the room instead, LOL.But PL is such a gentleman not wanting to hurt their feelings. So he fucks 200 different girls a year to make them feel special, projecting the idea that he is a stand out and loyal guy.

PL: So what is german porny style look? I think of Palace Kylie as the point of zero on that definition. Or perhaps something like the pornstar Nina Elle...

Sirioja

03-10-17, 01:41

Solo Traveler

03-10-17, 06:07

On last Thursday, woke up before 5 am, worked all day to make money, left Paris at 8 pm.If I lived in Paris, I would take trains from Paris to Dusseldorf to sleep and eat on the train before FKK trips.

One reason I don't drive when I am on vacation is that driving is also a task that wastes my energy. So I take trains, buses, sometimes taxis during vacation.

As for FKK Sauna women, I always see sexier women I want to try after I have had several rooms and completely exhausted already. So there is always regret in my heart.

Also, I have special fantasy for old mature staff members in some clubs, but this is impossible, so many regrets in my heart.

LOL!

Sirioja

03-10-17, 06:20

You should stop doing cocaine.I will stop to race the track to Duss, Fra or Zurich, and will think to kitesurf to Medellin. Col. It would be great fun. Real sport is not in brothels.

Exodus8

03-10-17, 06:49

But PL is such a gentleman not wanting to hurt their feelings. So he fucks 200 different girls a year to make them feel special, projecting the idea that he is a stand out and loyal guy.

Its not in the jedi code to be loyal. Want to be loyal then get a wife, LOL.

Sir Sirioja is probably one of the most loyal member as he goes with the same girl over and over.

Me I get a little bored after repeating 2-3 times but ofc there are guys that never repeat with the same girl as they want fresh meat, LOL.

Pistons

03-10-17, 10:56

Its not in the jedi code to be loyal.I believe that is the Sith code. Did HB tell you it was the jedi code? Perhaps he only wants to stray your thoughts...?

Exodus8

03-10-17, 11:23

I believe that is the Sith code. Did HB tell you it was the jedi code? Perhaps he only wants to stray your thoughts...?You are wrong the siths are extremely loyal "the rule of two".

Means you have a FKK wifey at each club, LOL.

Pistons

03-10-17, 11:46

You are wrong the siths are extremely loyal "the rule of two".

Means you have a FKK wifey at each club, LOL.ok. What if you have several wives at each club then? Does that make you moslem?

Mr Ho

03-10-17, 12:04

Emma. De is the prettiest girl I saw since a while, but I can't go with a girl who says not kissing, even I know sometimes she changes her mind in room because of our behavior, but too risky to be too frustrated for me, not at all about losing 50. I needed to prepare my mind to go with a not kissing girl, to fuck her only for her beauty, without my foreplay. Not at all my usual game, but wish to find her again.

When I decide, I don't need to sleep a night, so I have more time to enjoy my life than humans. Often play on free autobahns at night, between 5 am and opening on next day, or drive from Dusseldorf to Basel or Zurich, less traffic.You know Siri, every time I realized how many brave mongers are out there LOL.

What men will do for good sex in FKK hey? I fly half the way around the world, you drive all over the place and at odd time of the day LOL.

If the girl is real beauty, I still go to the room, but I will negotiate for kissing always in the room all the way. Sometimes after few sessions as repeated customer and if she like you as you said, she begin to kiss from second or third sessions, so I still do try to go to the room.

I have to say though oceans for me was the club with most shakiness in NRW clubs I went to last month.

Mr Ho

03-10-17, 13:41

ok. What if you have several wives at each club then? Does that make you moslem?We have sex wives in every FKK, all you need is 50 euro or 60 euro and you got yourself a wife for 30 min LOL.

ExpatLover

03-10-17, 20:52

We have sex wives in every FKK, all you need is 50 euro or 60 euro and you got yourself a wife for 30 min LOL.May be you Mr Ho, from my side for 50 euros I am not getting a sex wife most probably a poor performance / service.

Mr Ho

03-11-17, 10:01

May be you Mr Ho, from my side for 50 euros I am not getting a sex wife most probably a poor performance / service.Right, but Mr Expat, you must know that wives sometimes have moody days, so consider them as moody wives, so even you do not get DFK, then you turn her doggy style as you must punish her from the back hardcore fueled with cialis or Viagra extra strength doggy style hardcore pounding punishment LOL.

Some damn husband will spend their lives and much more money and effort on them, our expense of 50 euro to punish these FKK wives ain't bad LOL.

However, once in awhile we get lucky LOL.

It is rare but I did get total package for just standard 60 euro 30 minutes not at oceans but in Artemis few times, though Artemis service is rather bad as oceans normally LOL.

Some day we get lucky some day we get so unlucky LOL.

Over all oceans service is worst in NRW, but better than Artemis or palace LOL.

Pistons

03-11-17, 11:15

May be you Mr Ho, from my side for 50 euros I am not getting a sex wife most probably a poor performance / service.Sex and wife together in the same sentence? But I thought these words did not compute. Or why are these FKK clubs so full? LOL.

When I said 'several wives at each club', I was ofcourse referring to the girls you do not have sex with.... and I assume that was what Exodus8 also ment... like when you get an fkk wife, you need to fuck all the other girls in the club...? except your wife.

Solo Traveler

03-11-17, 17:49

Sex and wife together in the same sentence?"FKK sex wife" reads like you're referring to the only working woman whom you patronize in a club. When you visit the club, you go for her only and not anyone else.

By the way, I noticed that there are quite a few young customers in FKK Sauna clubs, but most look like foreigners (migrants or tourists).

It is understandable why foreign men are in a FKK Sauna club.

However, what I can't understand is why there are so few German youngsters frequent FKK Sauna clubs.

Are they all good boys who listen to their Mom's instructions (brothels are for bad boys)?

Or, do they all have relationships and only have sex with girlfriends or wives?

Pistons

03-14-17, 23:16

"FKK sex wife" reads like you're referring to the only working woman whom you patronize in a club. When you visit the club, you go for her only and not anyone else.Ok, it is good that I have you here.

Breadman

03-15-17, 00:07

I saw most of the daytime LU last summer in the garden and there were no quality girls in the day. Can't find a single photo of the garden. There's a few shots that look out onto an industrial area beyond the club. Is this their garden? Thought I read somewhere that a pool was going in soon.

PussyLiccker

03-15-17, 03:27

The outdoor pool was cancel due to lack of permission from the local authorities.

The outdoor pool is hidden under the stone plates between sand beach and building. That is the reason why the plates are moving when you step on. They are loose fastened on a kind of temporarily kind of net. The jacuzzi and outdoor pool will close the wellness circle.
Not much back there, can't call that a garden (at least not a decently natural or well decorated one, but it's a decent sized back area. Immediately outside the building with ceramic plated outdoor flooring, bunch of outdoor couches, and hut for smokers. Like Magnum outdoor area, bunch of dudes, and a few gals out there. A lot of the girls out there to smoke.

Pistons

03-15-17, 03:49

Did you just bump some 1 year old posts now?

On that note about the pool though. I was told by one guy there (think he was in charge of some building stuff) that the pool would be up and ready for this summer. Has anyone seen anything to the construction yet? Or is the pool really there? (I assume that post there was a joke).

Sirioja

03-15-17, 19:03

No jacuzzi, no swimming pool.

Entry is written 25 before 3 pm.

ExpatLover

03-15-17, 19:09

"FKK sex wife" reads like you're referring to the only working woman whom you patronize in a club. When you visit the club, you go for her only and not anyone else.

By the way, I noticed that there are quite a few young customers in FKK Sauna clubs, but most look like foreigners (migrants or tourists).

It is understandable why foreign men are in a FKK Sauna club.

However, what I can't understand is why there are so few German youngsters frequent FKK Sauna clubs.

Are they all good boys who listen to their Mom's instructions (brothels are for bad boys)?

Or, do they all have relationships and only have sex with girlfriends or wives?Just because they don't need to visit clubs to get sex. When I was young my dream was not to fuck prostitute but to meet my college friends. I just advise all young guys to stay out of the FKK scene and to meet girls in the real life.

Mr Ho

03-16-17, 11:57

No jacuzzi, no swimming pool.

Entry is written 25 before 3 pm.I heard from girl that they are building swimming pool in the garden.

Mr Ho

03-17-17, 12:33

Just because they don't need to visit clubs to get sex. When I was young my dream was not to fuck prostitute but to meet my college friends. I just advise all young guys to stay out of the FKK scene and to meet girls in the real life.Only thing real life girl can offer be is bareback sex and cum in pussy. Connections are something I do not need LOL.

BaltiX

03-18-17, 22:11

It's possible that youngsters are seeing girls who work in non-FKK brothels or as escorts like those in Kaufmich.

Mr Ho

03-19-17, 05:18

It's possible that youngsters are seeing girls who work in non-FKK brothels or as escorts like those in Kaufmich.Well when men are young, they are too young to notice that normal girls are more expensive and hassle than FKK girls and in FKK, you get the same quality optically and better sex and better return for money and time etc LOL.

But when you are young, you are more easy to be brainwashed that normal way to get girl is the only sacred way and narrow minded and do not see the reality because reality bites LOL.

Mr Ho

03-19-17, 22:36

No jacuzzi, no swimming pool.

Entry is written 25 before 3 pm.Yeah that is what they say LOL.

Sirioja

03-19-17, 23:00

Just because they don't need to visit clubs to get sex. When I was young my dream was not to fuck prostitute but to meet my college friends. I just advise all young guys to stay out of the FKK scene and to meet girls in the real life.I agree. A bit more than 6 years ago, I never met an escort and didn't know what are brothels, and I didn't need to go. A real girlfriend who loves you is so much better, even you don't ask her for CIM or anal, because you respect her too much, but she kisses you all the time, takes care of you, for free, just because she loves you. I always made more money than my girlfriends, but they never asked me for money and often made me presents. Unfortunately, sometimes life changes in bad way. Most of my girls often say: why don't you look for a new girlfriend?

Sirioja

03-19-17, 23:05

I heard from girl that they are building swimming pool in the garden.Didn't see any works, but I was at night.

Mr Ho

03-20-17, 12:26

Didn't see any works, but I was at night.Me too, saw nothing, but it maybe like Artemis outdoor pool, that outdoor pool took like more than a year till rumor began to spread LOL.

ExpatLover

03-20-17, 17:23

Only thing real life girl can offer be is bareback sex and cum in pussy. Connections are something I do not need LOL.May be the girls you met but the best sex I never had was with my ex wife, girl friends are given you more than mechanical sex they are giving you their feelings.

Sirioja

03-20-17, 20:22

May be the girls you met but the best sex I never had was with my ex wife, girl friends are given you more than mechanical sex they are giving you their feelings.Of course, sex when loving a girlfriend or wife, is much better with more intimacy than with the prettiest and best performer prostitute. I remember an exceptional girlfriend managing to wake me up in the night when she didn't sleep and whispering: I need you. When you just wake up and she ask you to come deep inside of her hot naked body, it was just magic, and I stayed inside of her to sleep again.

BHawk

03-21-17, 01:32

"FKK sex wife" reads like you're referring to the only working woman whom you patronize in a club. When you visit the club, you go for her only and not anyone else.I think getting FKK sex wives is a huge mistake. I've started that a few times but eventually some form of jealousy comes into play which ruins the fun. Better stay clear and declare that you are there for a varied sexual experience and not for a wife. Unless of course you are getting serious about a girl.

Mr Ho

03-21-17, 02:10

May be the girls you met but the best sex I never had was with my ex wife, girl friends are given you more than mechanical sex they are giving you their feelings.The best sex I had was with my Ukrainian model girl friend, but please note that, amount of money, stress, time, effort I had to put in to that relationship was more than going to escort or finding stunner at FKK.

Also shit you have to deal with normal girls are just too much of burden exchange of good sex.

However, even with prostitutes I had real good sex, especially here in Japan, I do AV stars before their debut and I sometimes do them bareback, so it is same in the same level.

I do not need intimacy, I need intimacy experiences and I definitely see these people with their older wives mentally brainwashed and insane. They call it love right? It must be or they have some taste problem or they are mazo LOL.

Solo Traveler

03-21-17, 08:25

Sirioja

03-21-17, 21:05

One biggest problem is that many men's girlfriends or wives in real life are not attractive.

What to do with this situation?

This may be one reason why I never have girlfriends in real life, because the women who seem to like me are not attractive, and hence the result.Why? You wait girls come to you?

In real life or in brothels, even it's not so easy for me in brothels because of paid sex which is a bit a problem for me, why I never speak about money with WGs, I go to girls who attract me, I'm not interested by GND who come to me. When my regulars see my last girlfriend on my phone, I keep her on my phone because I want to keep her with me, most of my regulars know what happened and why I come to FKK, they also see she was prettier than them, but life changed.

No problem in brothels or in real life to have very pretty women, even very easy, just have to behave with good manners, women are so surprised to be treated like women. They give you back when you make them feel they are a beautiful woman.

In brothels, many times WGs say: now my turn to take care of you, after my foreplay.

Mr Ho

03-22-17, 02:26

ExpatLover

03-22-17, 13:56

The best sex I had was with my Ukrainian model girl friend, but please note that, amount of money, stress, time, effort I had to put in to that relationship was more than going to escort or finding stunner at FKK.

Also shit you have to deal with normal girls are just too much of burden exchange of good sex.

However, even with prostitutes I had real good sex, especially here in Japan, I do AV stars before their debut and I sometimes do them bareback, so it is same in the same level.

I do not need intimacy, I need intimacy experiences and I definitely see these people with their older wives mentally brainwashed and insane. They call it love right? It must be or they have some taste problem or they are mazo LOL.Maybe, don't forget that you can have sex with them because you pay them, this point is changing a lot of thing at least in my mind.

Solo Traveler

03-22-17, 20:45

Maybe, don't forget that you can have sex with them because you pay them, this point is changing a lot of thing at least in my mind.ExpatLove,

Maybe you and I have more similar values.

I never consider women who be with me because of money or interests to be my girlfriends. For me, they simply cannot pass for my girlfriends.

Every time I tell other people I have never had any girlfriends, wives, or even any relationships, people do not believe me.

In my mind, I deeply know that I may have fun with many women, but that is because I pay them and they're doing their jobs to make me happy, so none of them can ever pass for my girlfriend or wife or relationship.

In my mind, a girlfriend or a wife should be the one who are with me because they like who I am and like to be with me.

No money, power, social status, economic status, or anything else should be involved.

Only in this case, will it be true love.

But, too bad, in this modern society, women will always check your social status, economic status, and many things in appearance before they decide whether they want to talk to you or not.

That's why I may possibly never have a girlfriend, wife, or a relationship, because it is nearly impossible in this world that I can find a woman that fits my above standards.

Exodus8

03-22-17, 22:40

ExpatLove,

In my mind, a girlfriend or a wife should be the one who are with me because they like who I am and like to be with me.

No money, power, social status, economic status, or anything else should be involved.

Only in this case, will it be true love.

But, too bad, in this modern society, women will always check your social status, economic status, and many things in appearance before they decide whether they want to talk to you or not.

That's why I may possibly never have a girlfriend, wife, or a relationship, because it is nearly impossible in this world that I can find a woman that fits my above standards.Maybe you have to lower yr standards, LOL.

There must be someone out there that will luv you for who you are. Guess you still have to approach gals in real life and be prepared to get hurt I. E. Turned down where the gals got all the power unlike in the FKK galaxy.

PussyLiccker

03-22-17, 23:23

When did this thread turn into a relationship thread?

Guys, you got dr. Phil or Jerry Springer for that. 🤓.

Pistons

03-23-17, 10:34

Robots are programmable guys. And the future lies ahead. Good luck!

Breadman

03-25-17, 22:34

So how does oceans lineup stack up against aca, sharks and oase?

Pistons

04-01-17, 04:37

So how does oceans lineup stack up against aca, sharks and oase?Not sure about aca, but the very top Oceans girls stand up very well against any girls in any FKK. Below that top line of perhaps 10 girls in the weekends it is a bit slimmer selection. But on a good day, top 10 is pretty much equal to top 10 oase / sharks. Even on a good day at those two clubs also. Aside from the weekends, that top 10 may be reduced to a top 5 or a top 6-7 however...

Average age is also lower among the top girls at Oceans than at Sharks/Oase... with whatever goes with that (less experience, but bodies can be more fit/firm. Ex: Alina/Eleny)

BHawk

04-02-17, 18:09

Long legs, slim, incredible ass, natural tits, fake blond hair. Super body. From Italy. Forgot her name. Was it Adrianna? Hope someone can help with the name. I did not have time to see her, so I need to follow up.

Sirioja

04-12-17, 19:43

ExpatLover

04-12-17, 22:15

Not sure about aca, but the very top Oceans girls stand up very well against any girls in any FKK. Below that top line of perhaps 10 girls in the weekends it is a bit slimmer selection. But on a good day, top 10 is pretty much equal to top 10 oase / sharks. Even on a good day at those two clubs also. Aside from the weekends, that top 10 may be reduced to a top 5 or a top 6-7 however...

Average age is also lower among the top girls at Oceans than at Sharks/Oase... with whatever goes with that (less experience, but bodies can be more fit/firm. Ex: Alina/Eleny)It is your feeling but far from what I could notice during my 3 visits in February, the club is very nice, clean, food is good but the girls are average and the service is poor, personally will never return to this club, no interest when you know the Hessen one.

Pistons

04-13-17, 03:52

No Alina nor Eleny either?

Mr Ho

04-13-17, 04:04

PussyLiccker

04-13-17, 04:18

Siri,

Sofia has potential, looks good (superb body, not teeny), feels sensual and nice gal, but if her services was better, would have good repeat potential.

Sirioja

04-13-17, 07:19

New evening visit, after job, wishing to find blond Emma. De. Entry 30 , new black hair girl on desk, much more honest. Unfortunately, fourth visit, but no more Emma since first visit. Very low casting, only superb body Sofia. Ro, but not kissing and pretty blond Simona. Ro who came with another girl, I answered I could go only with smiling Simona and asked her if she kiss in room, she answered only light on lips, I answered I need real so she choose, she preferred to leave. Boring casting, boring night, I ate pasta bolognese for 10 and went to sleep in relax room until 5 am, being woken up by security guy.

Most of pretty girls, I asked for my 4 visits, answered not kissing, so Oceans don't worth for me, even I regret I didn't try Emma. De for her beauty. Black girl on desk asked if I enjoyed when was leaving, new friendly desk?New black hair girl on desk is much more friendly, much better welcome.

Pistons, I don't know and never noticed your 2 girls.

PL, yes Sofia has super sexy body, but quite average face, and said on my first visit she doesn't kiss, so I won't run after her. Emma. De did worth I return because she was the prettiest girl I saw since a quite long while, with Kleopatra Samya also not really kissing.

Unfortunately, most of Oceans girls seem to provide sex, not at all mine, foreplay and kissing pretty faces lover.

Mr Ho

04-13-17, 07:43

New evening visit, after job, wishing to find blond Emma. De. Entry 30 , new black hair girl on desk, much more honest. Unfortunately, fourth visit, but no more Emma since first visit. Very low casting, only superb body Sofia. Ro, but not kissing and pretty blond Simona. Ro who came with another girl, I answered I could go only with smiling Simona and asked her if she kiss in room, she answered only light on lips, I answered I need real so she choose, she preferred to leave. Boring casting, boring night, I ate pasta bolognese for 10 and went to sleep in relax room until 5 am, being woken up by security guy.

Most of pretty girls, I asked for my 4 visits, answered not kissing, so Oceans don't worth for me, even I regret I didn't try Emma. De for her beauty. Black girl on desk asked if I enjoyed when was leaving, new friendly desk?The service was lowest in NRW region, but stunners can be found. Only few for me on my single visit though, I shall return.

Exodus8

04-13-17, 08:56

Most of pretty girls, I asked for my 4 visits, answered not kissing, so Oceans don't worth for me, even I regret I didn't try Emma. De for her beauty. Black girl on desk asked if I enjoyed when was leaving, new friendly desk?You should try this next time:

French devil: do you DFK?

Girl: no just on lips.

French devil: I pay you 50 e more for DFK.

Girl: ok smiling *eyes showing euro signs* LOL.

You shouldve told the desk "no I didn't enjoy gals don't DFK".

Mr Ho

04-15-17, 23:37

Pistons

04-17-17, 16:56

Service at Oceans seems to me to be a lot about your history with the girl (s). They provide less standardized routes as opposed to what I usually see in frankfurt. And service can improve the more times you session them. Especially so among the younger Oceans girls from Romania.

ExpatLover

04-17-17, 19:24

Service at Oceans seems to me to be alot about your history with the girl (s). They provide less standardized routies as opposed to what I usually see in frankfurt. And service can improve the more times you session them. Especially so among the younger Oceans girls from romania.Agree with you, you have a lot of sweet girls they are looking for regular customers even they are pushing to meet you outside the club, a good way to build a good customer database, no need to have 100 but 10 sweet sugar daddy is far enough to get a good monthly salary.

Sirioja

04-18-17, 08:30

You should try this next time:

French devil: do you DFK?

Girl: no just on lips.

French devil: I pay you 50 e more for DFK.

Girl: ok smiling *eyes showing euro signs* LOL.

You shouldve told the desk "no I didn't enjoy gals don't DFK".I won't never pay for DFK, because when it's for extra, it's usually not fluent, but only 1 for 50 €. I get so many at LR, History, Swiss or Globe, even Sharks, for free, really no need to pay for.

Emma. De, for her beauty, would have been my not kissing exception girl, but not many beauty like her seen. When I spoke with her, I didn't go with her, like with Asian face Gloria. Ro at Sharks yesterday saying only baby kiss on lips, not my expectations for sex, I want real women. I had to think about for 1 week, to decide to try to play my game with Emma. De, but never saw her again. Good wife written behind legs.

PussyLiccker

04-18-17, 17:03

Not even Eleny? It's hard to believe guys not be able to notice her hotness. On all my visits, she was 1 of 4-5 top looker, and would be in top 2 there.

Pistons

04-18-17, 17:25

Not even Eleny? It's hard to believe guys not be able to notice her hotness. On all my visits, she was 1 of 4-5 top looker, and would be in top 2 there.She looks like Ariana Grande in top shape, but normally (not all the time) with golden blonde hair. So yes, hard to miss...

PussyLiccker

04-18-17, 17:27

I don't see that myself, but her bod is what toned really means and looks good.

On the other hand, Sofi is different body type, not toned, but sexy in a curvy type way.

Sirioja

04-18-17, 19:30

She looks like Ariana Grande in top shape, but normally (not all the time) with golden blonde hair. So yes, hard to miss...The most attractive for me is pretty face, I never go with great body but average face. Sofia is really great body with round ass for me, but quite average face and not kissing, so not for me. Blond Simona. Ro is prettier face for me, but also not really kissing, so also not for me. Only Emma. De natural blond, white skin beauty worth to try.

Pistons

04-19-17, 01:36

Weired, I would have thought Eleny was your type of looks too siri (face looks great too). Perhaps you have just dodged her the times you've been there.

Ariana Grande: http://assets.teenvogue.com/photos/5621185d09f39cd25635f38f/master/pass/CRZVkfpUcAAVTNr.jpg

She even wore the same colors on her swimsuit bikini last summer as this pink/torquise miniskirt here:
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/7b/48/b7/7b48b7c7b667874aa213ab3529a733a0.jpg

And they have the same ponytail hairstyle mostly... (except that grande is mostly brunette and eleny golden blonde)

How you can not see the resemblance is beyond me PL. They could practically be one egged twins... Eleny also has a wicked voice. So you basically go first to an Ariana Grande concert, and then afterwards you go to Oceans to have sex with Eleny. I actually think AG is on tour in Europe now (or soon).

PussyLiccker

04-19-17, 02:12

Yes. Body and face looks great. Total package. If her service was equally great(which isn't and pretty standard), would be highly repeatable, and would be a real gem. Oceans really isn't a GFE land, and Siri knows this. LOL.

For styles, she reminds me of the model on Beluga Saunaclub front page. I've seen her with similar hair styling and color.

Pistons, perhaps you're a fan of AG.

Pistons

04-19-17, 11:17

Pistons, perhaps you're a fan of AG.Can't argue she is a babe. But if I had the choice of Eleny and AG, I think perhaps I would go for Eleny. But hard to decide since I never fucked AG (lol)

Banana Boi

04-19-17, 11:50

Can't argue she is a babe. Not my type whatsoever. Now I know why you praise Oceans. Surprised you don't praise Palace and Artemis as well.

This girl reminds me of Barbie at GT.

Pistons

04-19-17, 19:00

Not my type whatsoever. Now I know why you praise Oceans. Surprised you don't praise Palace and Artemis as well.

This girl reminds me of Barbie at GT.I haven't praised Artemis and Palace in the past? LOL. Get to know the battleground, and you can go anywhere. Even to North Korea! Like our fellow mongerer Dennis Rodman. As if his pornstar surname was a coincident...

Barbie is not as fit as Eleny. And also taller. They don't really look the same at all. Barbie's hair is more like the postergirl at Beluga, but I haven't seen Eleny having her hair like that. Thats where the resemblance stops. And just because I like one girl with a certain look doesn't mean I don't like girls with other looks. And the service thing is exaggerated. Worst service ratio I've had last 12 months was at gt.

PussyLiccker

04-19-17, 19:20

Eleny is taller than Barbie. Barbie is short. Pistons, you probably like little girls. Barbie looks like one, and so does AG.

Pistons

04-19-17, 20:07

Eleny is taller than Barbie. Barbie is short. Pistons, you probably like little girls. Barbie looks like one, and so does AG.All 3 are within my height range. I just prefer them below 1.69 due to doggy being hard at taller heights. And for kissing. But when you get below 1.53 it can also be too short. Yet few girls in Europe are that short. In Asia though... But I read BB as him claiming two girls looks the same just because of similar hair color even if at least Eleny switches that up too sometimes. I disagree.

(Eleny is below 1.60 at least. More like 1.57. I don't recall barbie being shorter. But eleny wears very high heels a lot... although I think I recall Barbie also doing that.)

Sirioja

04-19-17, 20:11

Weired, I would have thought Eleny was your type of looks too siri (face looks great too). Perhaps you have just dodged her the times you've been there.Maybe she doesn't work on Thursday night, for my 4 visits. I would have been happy to meet a pretty face, slim, kissing girl. 4 visits, 0 room, my only room was the relax room for 4 sleeping.

Sirioja

04-19-17, 20:15

I just prefer them below 1.70 due to doggy being hard at taller heights. And for kissing. What is your problem with a 1,75 girl for doggy? And when she lay on the bed, what is problem for kissing? And longer legs to lick inside sensitive zone of legs.

Solo Traveler

04-19-17, 20:50

All 3 are within my height range. I just prefer them below 1.69 due to doggy being hard at taller heights. And for kissing. But when you get below 1.53 it can also be too short. Yet few girls in europe are that short. In asia though...I've seen some very tiny girls in some clubs.

Even being in high heels, they're below 155 cm, I estimate.

So, they're under 150 cm in barefoot.

When I first saw them, I was shocked by their small size. They looked like children to me.

Seriously and no offence, do they suffer from something like Dwarfism?

Pistons

04-20-17, 01:08

Perhaps Darwinism instead of dwarfism. And [CodeWord910] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord910) men? No idea... lol. No seriously, nutrition is probably one reason too. Some girls come from poor places, and it can take a few generations for populations to grow taller... and physical work/exercise at a young age can make people grow shorter also... which might be related to why I feel shorter Romanians in average looks more fit than the taller ones. Because they have a better fitness base from young age. I've noticed this with ballerinas and gymnasts and Asian rice farm girls too.

Siri: angles.

I think average height of men are something like 12-15cm taller than women. Preferences and natural selection must be some of the reason for that I bet... but different guys like different types of sex of course.