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Tons of locals at Oceans are not thinking its a ripoff. But for tourists not being prepared it might be.
LOL.
So you're a local and your weight is more than a ton. Triple LOL.
Usually I don't write anymore here but this BS is really too much without any answer.
LOL.
So you're a local and your weight is more than a ton. Triple LOL.
Usually I don't write anymore here but this BS is really too much without any answer.I'm a local anywhere. Just like when I am in Craiova, I take on my local Romanian suit with sweat pants and starts saying 'dracu' to everyone or anyone. Then I go over to sit on them.
I saw few model type stunners here, but rest are hmmm. , but it is like this for most FKK.
I can say that ocean LU can be compared to artemis lu wise where most are ugly, but stunner can be found, but just one or two for my taste.
However, we always face the risk of non stunners as there only are one or two or max three with my just 4 or 5 visits.
I like the club, but they need to fix that money lockers too, most are broken.
PussyLiccker
10-15-17, 08:44
Emma, Bul is quite a looker. Same for Roxanna.
I saw Sofia last time at Sharks, but wasn't around this time. She's has very sexy looks.
PussyLiccker
10-17-17, 01:52
To me the girls aren't acting like thugs, but some of the local guys in the smoke tent in the backyard have peanut sized brains. Bone Thugs, and... Harmony
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-JmZ9ADhYg
It looks like the 2 pm rate is gone? Does not appear on the website anymore?
I meant, arriving before 3 pm, on Friday or Saturday, you can enjoy in the club for 16 hours until 7 am, for only 25 , if desk respect this rate on website. Can sleep for a night in quiet relax room.
Good if pretty Georgi ex LR is now at Oceans, nice pretty blond, even fake blond, great body, smiling, friendly.
PussyLiccker
10-19-17, 23:11
Yeah, it's gone on the website. It's 40 (without food or drinks), 60 entry options now. There were barely any customers on a Fri late night. Perhaps, it starts much later. It suffers the same changes that Magnum, PHG, VV went through. Dead club majority of the people's waking hrs.
This club is worth 25 happy HR (for inclusive A la carte steak which was the best part) or Free entry (which is pseudo free).
It would be better if some of these clubs get phase out to consolidate more girls in limited and better managed clubs.
Yeah, it's gone on the website. It's 40 (without food or drinks), 60 entry options now. There were barely any customers on a Fri late night. Perhaps, it starts much later. It suffers the same changes that Magnum, PHG, VV went through. Dead club majority of the people's waking hrs.
This club is worth 25 happy HR (for inclusive A la carte steak which was the best part) or Free entry (which is psuedo free).
It would be better if some of these clubs get phase out to consolidate more girls in limited and better managed clubs.40 without drinks. Not even water?
PussyLiccker
10-20-17, 03:22
40 without drinks. Not even water?No, since they only serve bottled water. I would just bring a big bottle of water and walk around and drink it.
Going to be rough for them if they want to compete with other clubs for the international crowd. Clubs like Samya and Aca in the area being so much cheaper, and the top Hessen clubs having buffet and non alcohol drinks included for 50 e.
It has made Magnum a no-go-zone. GT and LR can do it only because there are so many racist mongers around not liking turks, Arabs etc. But I don't see Oceans shutting their doors for these groups like GT / LR has.
No, since they only serve bottled water. I would just bring a big bottle of water and walk around and drink it.Right, I like that blue shaded glass bottle. I also like the food here sometimes and eating once is OK for me.
But LU can be bit shaky and I was lucky enough to bump into stunners during my visits here, but I always feel there is good chance here to face no stunner line up.
What I will begin to do is do Frankfurt based NRW trip as it is only under 2 hours by train and many club in NRW are day club so I can do two full FKK day if I take a hotel for one night. Though ocean is night time club though.
PussyLiccker
10-21-17, 14:15
40 Euros is a bit excessive for entry without food or drinks. At least with the 25 Euros early bird happy HR special, that gave possibilities of clients during the day to take advantage of the offer for the girls that show during the day, but this will go against that. And what will the results be? Bare entirely during the day hrs?
Food is nothing special besides being a la carte if seen food at various clubs. You get pasta or another dish as option inclusive at GT or LR, all you can eat. I get steak at SS or YY all I can eat. Salad with fries as side are provided as other places, it just takes longer to get your food as they made it an illusion it's like a restaurant.
All other clubs at least acknowledge that we human beings need to replenish fluids and provide drinks inclusive of entry.
40 Euros is a bit excessive for entry without food or drinks. At least with the 25 Euros early bird happy HR special, that gave possibilities of clients during the day to take advantage of the offer for the girls that show during the day, but this will go against that. And what will the results be? Bare entirely during the day hrs?
Food is nothing special besides being a la carte if seen food at various clubs. You get pasta or another dish as option inclusive at GT or LR, all you can eat. I get steak at SS or YY all I can eat. Salad with fries as side are provided as other places, it just takes longer to get your food as they made it an illusion it's like a restaurant.
All other clubs at least acknowledge that we human beings need to replenish fluids and provide drinks inclusive of entry.The food is better at Oceans since new year when they got the new chef. Well at least if you exclude Wellcum / Marina where you get even better food and its in buffet style, but its far away. But most of us probably just want food to get more energy. Most people go there to fuck. Not to eat at a restaurant. The restaurant was actually popular among some when they had the 25 e entry. Perhaps it got too popular after awhile and too many locals went there for the food instead of to just fuck. I don't know. But I met some who did.
Another possible reason to why they have the food structure is that the bistro area is a bit small compared to some other large FKK's. So it could be lack of space if they had buffet. But that is up for question I suppose.
Most likely they will change entry / food policy around yet again in not too long. We all probably know they will end up with a structure about the same as Oase or Sharks. But it can take another year or two or three or four. Lessons needs to be learned it seems. It is not that management is particularly wrong, but they are trying to fight a loosing battle. It is as if a new web browser had been launched with menus and placings on totally opposite side of the screen. When people get used to chrome or windows, it gets almost impossible to change the customer behavior. And this also goes for FKK's.
This is not Asia with micro payments. In Europe and north america bundles are usually the norms in most fields. And you cannot start the micro payments at the bundled price. It is either, not both. Then again, this is also something most girls in FKK's should understand also in regards to upselling or rather lack thereof.
Right, I like that blue shaded glass bottle. I also like the food here sometimes and eating once is OK for me.
But LU can be bit shaky and I was lucky enough to bump into stunners during my visits here, but I always feel there is good chance here to face no stunner line up.
What I will begin to do is do Frankfurt based NRW trip as it is only under 2 hours by train and many club in NRW are day club so I can do two full FKK day if I take a hotel for one night. Though ocean is night time club though.Why not just rent a car in FRA and then drive back and forth instead? I checked on the trains and they seem a pain about the same price as gas one way even more than gas if you don't get the discounted train rates.
Why not just rent a car in FRA and then drive back and forth instead? I checked on the trains and they seem a pain about the same price as gas one way even more than gas if you don't get the discounted train rates.Yes, but I choose not to drive in Germany or any foreign land. I like train and it is actually very do able and I bought ticket already on internet.
I have to say GT is bit hard to leach but it is do able with train and taxi.
I think I will skip oceans this time of trip and go to gt Bruggen for two consecutive day and if it is bad LU at GT then I go to LR after 4 pm with discount entry from GT or worst case I may end up at oceans at 8 pm to check out late night shift like Eleny.
Why not just rent a car in FRA and then drive back and forth instead? I checked on the trains and they seem a pain about the same price as gas one way even more than gas if you don't get the discounted train rates.Some people do not have drivers licenses (or are not comfortable driving because they don't own a car). I believe I read that in the USA over 90% of population own a car, however, in Mainhattan just 23%.
Also some FKKers may come from countries that drive on the opposite side of road. Or perhaps they want to drink and use substances.
Also some FKKers may come from countries that drive on the opposite side of road. Or perhaps they want to drink and use substances.Haha, that is me.
I think I will skip oceans this time of trip and go to gt Bruggen for two consecutive day and if it is bad LU at GT then I go to LR after 4 pm with discount entry from GT or worst case I may end up at oceans at 8 pm to check out late night shift like Eleny.When it comes to lineup, Oceans lineup is better now than it has been any time earlier this year (at least it was so 2 weeks ago). GT doesn't seem to have as good reviews. YY is perhaps the 2nd club in the area with the type of girls I think would be your taste. LR too maybe.
PussyLiccker
10-22-17, 16:06
The food is better at Oceans since new year when they got the new chef. Well at least if you exclude Wellcum / Marina where you get even better food and its in buffet style, but its far away. But most of us probably just want food to get more energy. Most people go there to fuck. Not to eat at a restaurant. The restaurant was actually popular among some when they had the 25 e entry. Perhaps it got too popular after awhile and too many locals went there for the food instead of to just fuck. I don't know. But I met some who did.That's what I mean. 25 Euros special can pull clients in since, if they don't find the LU to your liking with daytime quite empty and boring, at least they got free steak plate they would normally charge you 30+ Euros. Also, Wifi works very good there thank god. At least the wifi during the boring empty daytime ambiance.
Wellcum has the best club food I've had. It's upscale. Club is upscale.
Wellcum has the best club food I've had. It's upscale. Club is upscale.For 85 euro entree fee. It better be. I can buy one heck of a fine dinner for that price.
For 85 euro entree fee. It better be. I can buy one heck of a fine dinner for that price.But its a mountain resort. Transport is like 20% of the cost.
When it comes to lineup, Oceans lineup is better now than it has been any time earlier this year (at least it was so 2 weeks ago). GT doesn't seem to have as good reviews. YY is perhaps the 2nd club in the area with the type of girls I think would be your taste. LR too maybe.Is Ying yang daytime club or night time club for LU?
Hmmm. I never been to YY and there are many German girls there now? How is the LU there? Many Kylie type of palace?
Oceans had only Elena last time, but last year I also saw one Polish stunner that I went with.
Is Ying yang daytime club or night time club for LU?
Hmmm. I never been to YY and there are many German girls there now? How is the LU there? Many Kylie type of palace?
Oceans had only Elena last time, but last year I also saw one Polish stunner that I went with.Don't get your hopes up for YY line up, night or day. The lineup is not bad but is best described as mediocre. If there are a lot of German girls, they are nothing special optically. I didn't see any Palace Kylie types but there was one girl who looked like a caricature of her. Shorter with oversized silicon tits, pornstar make up, a tube of botox in her lips, lol.
I went there on a Sunday from 1 pm-8 pm. I saw about 50 girls, no stunners, 2-3 8's, maybe 10 or so 7's, the rest were 6's or below. Other experienced mongers tell me that the service is more miss than hit.
The club itself is beautiful with a huge outdoor area and new sauna facilities. Food is probably better than any German club.
It was not fantastic lineup, but I think it has more the style of girls Mr. Ho likes than most other clubs in the area. I'd say Michaela was a stunner as well, but that's just my opinion. Maybe one more too.
It was not fantastic lineup, but I think it has more the style of girls Mr. Ho likes than most other clubs in the area. I'd say Michaela was a stunner as well, but that's just my opinion. Maybe one more too.Michaela: best looking girl there for my taste. Great body but has a weird nose. 2 out of 2 monger friends said she provides good service but one said she tried lie about time, and it was their 3rd or 4th room.
Michaela: best looking girl there for my taste. Great body but has a weird nose. 2 out of 2 monger friends said she provides good service but one said she tried lie about time, and it was their 3rd or 4th room.I just go by the fact Mr. Ho likes Kylie at Palace. So service and upsells should be the least of his criteria, LOL. And I wonder who it was that liked Michaela. She has a lot of stamina for such a petite body by the way. I almost feel bad I didn't overpay.
Is Ying yang daytime club or night time club for LU?
Hmmm. I never been to YY and there are many German girls there now? How is the LU there? Many Kylie type of palace?
Oceans had only Elena last time, but last year I also saw one Polish stunner that I went with.YY is both day and night I felt. We went there early and it was fine during day time. Its deffinately not a late night club though as you can see from the closing time.
Saw a few Germans. Not too many. Some botox girls, but not too much. Lineup maybe reminded me of Artemis 4 years ago but with less girls. Lower average age too.
I bet you'll find more girls at Oceans now too. During spring it was mainly eleny and alina when she was around that I went for at Oceans too. Now its much better. Hope it lasts.
YY is both day and night I felt. We went there early and it was fine during day time. Its deffinately not a late night club though as you can see from the closing time.
Saw a few Germans. Not too many. Some botox girls, but not too much. Lineup maybe reminded me of Artemis 4 years ago but with less girls. Lower average age too.
I bet you'll find more girls at Oceans now too. During spring it was mainly eleny and alina when she was around that I went for at Oceans too. Now its much better. Hope it lasts.Well I will ask you toward end of Novemeber for line up, so right, I hope it last please for me LOL.
Yes, but I choose not to drive in Germany or any foreign land. I like train and it is actually very do able and I bought ticket already on internet.
I have to say GT is bit hard to leach but it is do able with train and taxi.
I think I will skip oceans this time of trip and go to gt Bruggen for two consecutive day and if it is bad LU at GT then I go to LR after 4 pm with discount entry from GT or worst case I may end up at oceans at 8 pm to check out late night shift like Eleny.Just checking how much is it to reach GT from DUS airport with the DB train and taxi? I can get weekly car rentals less than $16 per day.
Well I will ask you toward end of Novemeber for line up, so right, I hope it last please for me LOL.Better ask someone else then as I won't be going back before then.
Just checking how much is it to reach GT from DUS airport with the DB train and taxi? I can get weekly car rentals less than $16 per day.From duss hbf, it is like 12 euro one way with train (about 50 min ride) if I remeber right and then from station it is 15 euro by taxi, so one day return to Duss hbf, for me it was like 45 euro to 50 euro in total.
Car will be much cheaper with your rate, I choose train and taxi, I do not want to drive.
Better ask someone else then as I won't be going back before then.Well it is good Eleny is still there she's my type and last time she was the only one, if she did not walk in. I would be without any girl to go with in LU.
After disappointment in PHG and the one next door I visited Oceans on Sunday the 15th around 2 pm. There were about 10 girls and few guys. It was very nice, relaxed atmosphere and did a great German brunet, who was a bit drunk but with great attitude, sorry I don't remember the name.
ExpatLover
11-07-17, 20:50
After disappointment in PHG and the one next door I visited Oceans on Sunday the 15th around 2 pm. There were about 10 girls and few guys. It was very nice, relaxed atmosphere and did a great German brunet, who was a bit drunk but with great attitude, sorry I don't remember the name.Thanks for the report but some years back this club wanted to compete with the big Hessen one, today you are speaking about 10 girls when probably at the same time there are.
More than 80 at Shark.
What kind of lineup can you expect on oceans and how many?
I've been to Artemis and Palace so a comparison between those would help.
PussyLiccker
11-26-17, 19:01
Oceans girls are dispersed. Lucy is at SixSens. I heard business not so good so girls have left which not a surprise with this club.
BigBuddy69
11-26-17, 19:25
Which Lucy? The Bulgarian one or the curvy bombshell romie?
PussyLiccker
11-26-17, 20:14
Which Lucy? The bulgarian one or the curvy bombshell romie?Lucy, Ro with big tits from Aca.
What kind of lineup can you expect on oceans and how many?
I've been to Artemis and Palace so a comparison between those would help.Lineup is up and down. Generally the last 2 years when its been good its been better than palace and better than artemis since 3 years ago. Lineup starts slow with maybe 10-14 girls daytime. Then it can pick up to somewhere in the line of 70 girls on the busiest nights. Maybe just 45-50 girls on a slow weekday. It is bigger difference between weekdays and weekends in NRW clubs in general than in Hessen and Berlin. Lineup was pretty good in October and best this year, but not sure what new entrance pricing rates has done lately to demand. Also weekdays was good now earlier this fall. But things can change in a matter of weeks in most clubs. The rule of thumb in NRW is to be flexible and be able to switch clubs if one is bad. But as for Oceans it shouldn't be your first club of the night if you start early and visit 2 clubs in one day. So many silly reports here describe 10 girls present and then they leave at 6 pm or even 8 pm. That's a waste of bandwidth if you ask me. Some of the top girls arrive sometimes at 9 or even 10 pm. Then again, there is a lot of hoax posts in this thread of people bullshitting about the club because they dislike the practises of the receptionists (who sometimes tries to overcharge). So know the pricing beforehand.
MyTwoInches
11-26-17, 21:33
Did anyone see Elena at this club recently? Thanks.
ExpatLover
11-27-17, 16:40
What kind of lineup can you expect on oceans and how many?
I've been to Artemis and Palace so a comparison between those would help.You have to expect nothing, best LU is at Shark and that is all despite all the negative reports, I am not a shareholder but this club is offering from far the best LU in Germany all the rest is just cheating.
there is a lot of hoax posts in this thread of people bullshitting about the club because they dislike the practises of the receptionists (who sometimes tries to overcharge). So know the pricing beforehand.No bullshit, but the truth, desk try to fuck foreigners about entry rate, even when it's written close to the desk, or you show them on internet. So, I won't return soon, unless a girl I know, inform me she will go to work at Oceans, when I see how desk welcome us at GT, LR, Samya, even Aca or PHG. Only not friendly at YY NL.
No bullshit, but the truth, desk try to fuck foreigners about entry rate, even when it's written close to the desk, or you show them on internet. So, I won't return soon, unless a girl I know, inform me she will go to work at Oceans, when I see how desk welcome us at GT, LR, Samya, even Aca or PHG. Only not friendly at YY NL.They charged me 60 euro, non taxi entry.
Apparently with taxi it is 80 euro.
They charged me 60 euro, non taxi entry.
Apparently with taxi it is 80 euro.Now, 40 without à la carte, and 60 with.
Before, free entry on early hours and 30 without foods, but desk said only for Germans, not for foreigners. Even I like most of Germans except a few, I'm proud to be French, and I hate to be fucked.
Now, 40 without la carte, and 60 with.
Before, free entry on early hours and 30 without foods, but desk said only for Germans, not for foreigners. Even I like most of Germans except a few, I'm proud to be French, and I hate to be fucked.Siri,
We all get fucked in FKK in one way or another, some day we win, some day we lose.
This time visit, I had to walk from Duss Rath Station to ocean through forest at night LOL bus was not working and no taxi found, it was cold and scary in forest LOL LOL.
No bullshit, but the truth, desk try to fuck foreigners about entry rate, even when it's written close to the desk, or you show them on internet. So, I won't return soon, unless a girl I know, inform me she will go to work at Oceans, when I see how desk welcome us at GT, LR, Samya, even Aca or PHG. Only not friendly at YY NL.Yes, I think you misread me there. The bullshitting is not about the receptionists attitude, but because of it.
Now, 40 without la carte, and 60 with.
Before, free entry on early hours and 30 without foods, but desk said only for Germans, not for foreigners. Even I like most of Germans except a few, I'm proud to be French, and I hate to be fucked.I like the food at Oceans than other clubs, though menu hardly ever change LOL.
Banana Boi
12-02-17, 16:52
I like the food at Oceans than other clubs, though menu hardly ever change LOL.You think Oceans has better food than PSR, Villa Vertigo, and Sixsens? I actually even prefer the variety at Sharks with their duck over Oceans.
You think Oceans has better food than PSR, Villa Vertigo, and Sixsens? I actually even prefer the variety at Sharks with their duck over Oceans.Have you been to Oceans since new year? New chef.
SixSense good food? I need that stuff you have taken next time I go there. Maybe its legal in NL?
You think Oceans has better food than PSR, Villa Vertigo, and Sixsens? I actually even prefer the variety at Sharks with their duck over Oceans.I was never big fan of sharks chinese style food. Too oily for my taste with no refinement.
However, Ocean has different direction of food and I always enjoyed their I think it is lamb steak and salad and I change it to rice other than French fries.
I also like Borsch soup at GT Bruggen.
Of course, it is not 3 star restaurant, but I do like some food at FKK.
ExpatLover
12-03-17, 05:17
I was never big fan of sharks chinese style food. Too oily for my taste with no refinement.
However, Ocean has different direction of food and I always enjoyed their I think it is lamb steak and salad and I change it to rice other than French fries.
I also like Borsch soup at GT Bruggen.
Of course, it is not 3 star restaurant, but I do like some food at FKK.We are not going to the clubs for eating: but for me best food is in Sakura.
Rogue Nation
12-03-17, 09:55
Don't know about the food at Oceans as I will never visit, but food quality at Sharks is going downhill.
90% of all FKK food is terrible in my eyes. Only a few of the oceans meals are fine. I didn't really like the red beef for 30 e (I only tried it once since it was included at was otherwise proceed the highest). I go for the schnitzel normally and feel it quite good but could come with cranberry jam included perhaps. I think it sometimes does, but not always. Or perhaps I forgot. Gt lunch is ok. Yinyang has good food but its in NL. Paradise Stuttgart has ok food too. Wellcum and Marina has very good food, but is in aut / slo. Rest is generally awful. You can be lucky once a week at palace perhaps. Or at rare occasions at most clubs, but nothing to bet on.
ExpatLover
12-04-17, 19:56
90% of all FKK food is terrible in my eyes. Only a few of the oceans meals are fine. I didn't really like the red beef for 30 e (I only tried it once since it was included at was otherwise proceed the highest). I go for the schnitzel normally and feel it quite good but could come with cranberry jam included perhaps. I think it sometimes does, but not always. Or perhaps I forgot. Gt lunch is ok. Yinyang has good food but its in NL. Paradise Stuttgart has ok food too. Wellcum and Marina has very good food, but is in aut / slo. Rest is generally awful. You can be lucky once a week at palace perhaps. Or at rare occasions at most clubs, but nothing to bet on.Sakura provides for me one of the best food but are we going for that.
Siri,
We all get fucked in FKK in one way or another, some day we win, some day we lose.
This time visit, I had to walk from Duss Rath Station to ocean through forest at night LOL bus was not working and no taxi found, it was cold and scary in forest LOL LOL.Agree for game with girls, even easier to win in room than in casino, but I don't like how Oceans desk is not honest, when I compare with GT or LR or Samya. Even at YY, desk begin to become friendly.
Agree for game with girls, even easier to win in room than in casino, but I don't like how Oceans desk is not honest, when I compare with GT or LR or Samya. Even at YY, desk begin to become friendly.YY LU can be something we should keep the eyes on next year. I hear the name more and more recently May get more German LU there and GT.
Or I may go for Hamburg once weather is bit warmer next year. I am interested there due to Denmark German looks mixed direction.
Banana Boi
12-05-17, 14:58
SixSense good food? I need that stuff you have taken next time I go there. Maybe its legal in NL?I'm talking about the BBQ pork chops and steak, not that crap they serve in the kitchen and leave in the dining room.
I'm talking about the BBQ pork chops and steak, not that crap they serve in the kitchen and leave in the dining room.Good (I didn't see any bbq when I was there), because as far as I was concerned only Aca Gold has ever had worse food for an FKK I have been to than what I found at SixSense at the kitchen there.
YY LU can be something we should keep the eyes on next year. I hear the name more and more recently May get more German LU there and GT.
Or I may go for Hamburg once weather is bit warmer next year. I am interested there due to Denmark German looks mixed direction.You have Scandinavian look, German Luna and Bambi in Hamburg.
YY should be eldorado for German girls or girls living in Germany around Dusseldorf, Koln, or Aachen, who don't want to register. Even no problem in NRW or at Sharks, but YY is land of BBBJ.
Best foods with PHG. Good rooms, good spa, just boring between rooms in Winter, and the worst lockers, so small and have to put shoes inside.
Can pay entry and girls with credit card, with 5% charged.
You have Scandinavian look, German Luna and Bambi in Hamburg.
YY should be eldorado for German girls or girls living in Germany around Dusseldorf, Koln, or Aachen, who don't want to register. Even no problem in NRW or at Sharks, but YY is land of BBBJ.
Best foods with PHG. Good rooms, good spa, just boring between rooms in Winter, and the worst lockers, so small and have to put shoes inside.
Can pay entry and girls with credit card, with 5% charged.I will wait a bit in 2018 to see how YY LU changes as I know some girls were talking about not wanting to register. So they may move to YY.
BBBJ in YY is lucrative and I must look for hotel near YY. I wonder how LU will be there after Jan 1st.
I have a few other questions:
Are there taxi waiting outside at night like at other FKKs?
Do they have a cash machine inside?
I hope to meet a few German stunners.
I have a few other questions:
Are there taxi waiting outside at night like at other FKKs?
Do they have a cash machine inside?
I hope to meet a few German stunners.There are taxis and they have an ATM but it takes an extra surcharge, so its better to bring all the cash with you on arrival. Not many Germans though. Maybe 2-3 in average.
I have a few other questions:
Are there taxi waiting outside at night like at other FKKs?
Do they have a cash machine inside?
I hope to meet a few German stunners.There are taxi outside waiting especially later at night.
ATM, I think there are none, if I remember right.
You can forget about German stunner here in oceans with my experience, consider oceans as Bucharest LOL.
BigBuddy69
12-25-17, 09:25
Actually you will be the cash machine.
At the Oceans facebook page, Oceans is asking for help identifying a hobbyist walking in? Seems very strange and does not say why and also this appears to be a privacy violation.
Next there appears to be a eintritt frei (free entry) on New Years Eve. Not sure if means in the "am " I. E. In the morning or "at D". But "am" in the morning seems strange also because the club opens at 2 pm, which is not the am And in fact is the afternoon or pm.
There are taxi outside waiting especially later at night.
ATM, I think there are none, if I remember right.
You can forget about German stunner here in oceans with my experience, consider oceans as Bucharest LOL.Of course, ATM at Oceans. Also helicopter on parking.
I saw top beauty German Ema with written behind legs: good wife, at Oceans, but saying not kissing, but she became a real GFE at LR. Unfortunately, didn't stay, or fortunately, because I would have had problem with my Romanian Eve.
Member #4585
12-31-17, 19:58
At the Oceans facebook page, Oceans is asking for help identifying a hobbyist walking in? Seems very strange and does not say why and also this appears to be a privacy violation.It looks like from what I can see is that the man that Oceans wants to identify is the winner of a lucky prize.
It could be he is the millionth customer that Oceans has had since it was opened. He has been caught on CCTV with a time stamp entering the club where the CCTV has an unequivocal system to count him as that millionth customer.
Lucky guy.
Member #4585
12-31-17, 20:43
Hope they go bust in 2018.Clubs closing means less diversity and choice for the consumer. Then again, closure is part of the life cycle of business allowing capital to be re-distributed (hopefully) back into the sex industry in the form of a new club and not into a non sex industry investment.
Clubs closing means less diversity and choice for the consumer. Then again, closure is part of the life cycle of business allowing capital to be re-distributed (hopefully) back into the sex industry in the form of a new club and not into a non sex industry investment.Apparently its going to be harder to get new licenses for opening up new clubs now after the new legislation. So if a club closes down, the field will most likely narrow down. Personally I like Oceans which you probably know. But they can change one or two policies I suppose. And it would help them. For one, they do manage to attract girls other clubs don't. For better or worse. And the amenities are much better than at most other NRW clubs. Some of which are falling apart as we speak.
Cara Delevingne reminds you of someone?
https://youtu.be/4dMHkghm56Y
Its remarkable how a few of these FKK girls have their double as some famous person.
Member #4585
01-01-18, 02:00
Apparently its going to be harder to get new licenses for opening up new clubs now after the new legislation. So if a club closes down, the field will most likely narrow down. Personally I like Oceans which you probably know. But they can change one or two policies I suppose. And it would help them. For one, they do manage to attract girls other clubs don't. For better or worse. And the amenities are much better than at most other NRW clubs. Some of which are falling apart as we speak.I did Anna a tanned, dark blonde girl with a pneumatic body that had the curves in all the right places. She wanted 100 euro for one hour for the session to include DFK with kiss and lick everywhere, but man she was an amazing looker. She was from Oceans and she worked at Sharks for a stint. If she is representative of what Sharks has then I do not want Oceans to close if it attracts girls like that to work.
Whatever it takes.
Member #4585
01-01-18, 02:01
Cara Delevingne reminds you of someone?
https://youtu.be/4dMHkghm56YNo idea who.
ExpatLover
01-01-18, 06:43
Clubs closing means less diversity and choice for the consumer. Then again, closure is part of the life cycle of business allowing capital to be re-distributed (hopefully) back into the sex industry in the form of a new club and not into a non sex industry investment.As I reported it I spoke with one of the top manager of one of the big 5, for him the future looks at least gray may be dark, just because too few new girls are registering and the clients want new girls every week. Many veteran are coming back but most of them are not attractive enough to keep the clients visiting the clubs and paying the entry fee.
No idea who.Well if you haven't been to Oceans then you wouldn't know. But she looks like Andra, just that Andra is maybe 10-15 cm shorter than Delavingne. But in the movie which I just saw a few days ago, you cannot tell how tall Delavingne is. I was all the while during the movie thinking of how it was making sweet love to her, and I had a remembrance of it instead of just the interest. LOL!
Well if you haven't been to Oceans then you wouldn't know. But she looks like Andra, just that Andra is maybe 10-15 cm shorter than Delavingne. But in the movie which I just saw a few days ago, you cannot tell how tall Delavingne is. I was all the while during the movie thinking of how it was making sweet love to her, and I had a remembrance of it instead of just the interest. LOL!Andra / Anda is prettier face for me, but unfortunately saying not kissing, like EMA. De, like top body Sofi. Ro, so not interesting for me, when I find passionate kisser beauties elsewhere.
Member #4585
01-01-18, 22:03
Well if you haven't been to Oceans then you wouldn't know.Please explain the logic in this?
Guys go to clubs and don't know all the line up. Maybe your girl is unmemorable and non descript.
Apparently its going to be harder to get new licenses for opening up new clubs now after the new legislation. So if a club closes down, the field will most likely narrow down. Personally I like Oceans which you probably know. But they can change one or two policies I suppose. And it would help them. For one, they do manage to attract girls other clubs don't. For better or worse. And the amenities are much better than at most other NRW clubs. Some of which are falling apart as we speak.I think someone will buy the club for lower price and do it all over again with new management.
I like oceans, it is just that locker is broken and they did not had good agreement with taxi company. I take train and bus, but last time bus was in construction and I had to walk in forest at 7 PM LOL! Alone in dark, man in forest to get to Oceans LOL.
I was so scared man LOL I got there fine though. Google map worked in mysterious way LOL.
How come you guys are talking about closing? The club not doing good? Not many clients till 8 PM this is for sure, yes. During the day it is empty, but it is like so for most clubs.
Please explain the logic in this?.There are more readers than just you.
Siri, I agree. Andra is more beautiful. But the similarity is striking. As a French, I assume you have seen the movie also. It is the most expensive French film ever I just read.
Cara Delevingne reminds you of someone?
https://youtu.be/4dMHkghm56Y
Its remarkable how a few of these FKK girls have their double as some famous person.Funny you should say that Pistons. I actually bumped into Cara Delevingne in Soho, Manhattan, NYC a couple of years ago. She's smoking hot in real life.
Oceans is a bit of an acquired taste. First gave it try about a year ago but they tried to rip me off, so I left without entry. Tried my luck again a few months later and got in on the cheap when they had their 25e promotion (with meal) entry. Made out with two girls Adriana and Francesca. The club is growing on me. Do you know if Eleny is still working there?
By the way, do you know of a Romanian there by the name of Amira from Constanta? Tall, slim, slender, brunette with slightly Asian looks.
Howie.
Do you know if Eleny is still working there?No idea, but she was there in October. And she's been around pretty much on every Germany trip I've made for the past 18 months. So I'm guessing unless she stopped working she should be there. She dances on stage too, so I guess she feels more connected than some others also. She is also not living at the club premise any longer, so happen she arrives late. But I guess that also means she has settled more in at NRW.
Funny you should say that Pistons. I actually bumped into Cara Delevingne in Soho, Manhattan, NYC a couple of years ago. She's smoking hot in real life.
Oceans is a bit of an acquired taste. First gave it try about a year ago but they tried to rip me off, so I left without entry. Tried my luck again a few months later and got in on the cheap when they had their 25e promotion (with meal) entry. Made out with two girls Adriana and Francesca. The club is growing on me. Do you know if Eleny is still working there?
By the way, do you know of a Romanian there by the name of Amira from Constanta? Tall, slim, slender, brunette with slightly Asian looks.
Howie.I session with her in December, she has brunette hair now.
I'm wondering about the shuttle car is it kind of discreet, or does it have huge ads saying FKK Oceans with picture of girls. And do they phone you when it arrives?
I'm wondering about the shuttle car is it kind of discreet, or does it have huge ads saying FKK Oceans with picture of girls. And do they phone you when it arrives?I never used it, but I hear shuttle bus is not free at all and rip off.
I usually take train and then bus, but then bus stop was under construction last time and I had to walk through some forest at 7 PM ish alone to get to oceans as I took wrong path.
However, it is walkable from station rath, it takes about 15 to 20 min walk, so it is doable.
TorrentChief
01-15-18, 12:15
I never used it, but I hear shuttle bus is not free at all and rip off.
I usually take train and then bus, but then bus stop was under construction last time and I had to walk through some forest at 7 PM ish alone to get to oceans as I took wrong path.
However, it is walkable from station rath, it takes about 15 to 20 min walk, so it is doable.The 701 tram stops at Oberhausener Strasse which is a 5 minute walk.
The 701 tram stops at Oberhausener Strasse which is a 5 minute walk.It was under construction in December and I took wrong path and google map lead me through the forest path at 7 pm at night alone in forest. Man that was scary walk LOL.
BigBuddy69
01-15-18, 15:30
Well you're a grown up no?
I wonder if the girls feel the same way on a crowded Saturday night with all that hardwood around.
TorrentChief
01-17-18, 03:19
It was under construction in December and I took wrong path and google map lead me through the forest path at 7 pm at night alone in forest. Man that was scary walk LOL.Oh. Sorry did not know. Hopefully construction is done.
Oh. Sorry did not know. Hopefully construction is done.It was odd as there was a sign that bus station is relocated meanwhile, so many people walked with me, but my bus relocation station was never found LOL.
Well I did walk and got to oceans, it is just that google map took me forest pathway at 7 pm ish at night and it was sooooo spooky walk I mean night time in forest on one side and some gate overlooking some small hill on other with dim orange street lamp, no horny freak beside me was found in forest and got to Oceans safe LOL.
I begin to like some casting at Oceans, I have to say LU was not that bad, but not good either.
It was under construction in December and I took wrong path and google map lead me through the forest path at 7 pm at night alone in forest. Man that was scary walk LOL.No wolf? No bear? In Dusseldorf, no fish? No beauty in the dark deep forest?
No wolf? No bear? In Dusseldorf, no fish? No beauty in the dark deep forest?No Siri, but it was very spooky to walk in dim dark with dim orange light, I was not worry for animals, I was more concern for unwanted type of humans as it was long path in forest on one side, and the fence on other. Plus it was so cold!
Travelerb69
01-24-18, 19:28
Hi. Iam planning a visit to this club next February, first time. Made a quick search here but could not solve some doubts.
1- Are there any discount happy hours?
2- Do customers wear only towels or club provides robes also?
Thanks.
Hi. Iam planning a visit to this club next February, first time. Made a quick search here but could not solve some doubts.
1- Are there any discount happy hours?
2- Do customers wear only towels or club provides robes also?
Thanks.1. Dunno right now. I think there is a 2 for 1 entry now according to their website.
2. You get robes in all FKK's. Its your first time in an FKK?
Hi. Iam planning a visit to this club next February, first time. Made a quick search here but could not solve some doubts.
1- Are there any discount happy hours?
2- Do customers wear only towels or club provides robes also?
Thanks.Show on your phone to desk entry rates on website.
Robes. Many in street clothes. Girls are not full naked.
Hi. Iam planning a visit to this club next February, first time. Made a quick search here but could not solve some doubts.
1- Are there any discount happy hours?
2- Do customers wear only towels or club provides robes also?
Thanks.The prices are listed on the website:
€40 withount al a cart meal and drinks.
€60 with meal and non alcoholic drinks included.
They also list discounts of €10 for pensioners, taxi drivers and civil servants upon presenting proof.
Also note that the listed prices change if you arrive by taxi. I've heard the drivers get a surcharge from the club that is passed on the the client.
BigBuddy69
01-25-18, 11:21
2. You get robes in all FKK's. Its your first time in an FKK?Not in Babylon elsdorf and villa Venus at least.
Hi. Iam planning a visit to this club next February, first time. Made a quick search here but could not solve some doubts.
1- Are there any discount happy hours?
2- Do customers wear only towels or club provides robes also?
Thanks.I forgot to mention, in Oceans I was told it's not allowed to wear only a towel in the bar in Oceans. The options are: two different styles of robes at different prices (no benefits that I know of for selecting the more expensive option), or normal clothes. I'm not sure why someone would choose normal clothes.
KingOfBongo
01-28-18, 12:17
So, yesterday was my first visit Oceans. At the reception, the thekefrau refused me the discount from the big add sign next to her and she refused me the '2 zu 1 aktion' as well. I was not convinced by the explanation and this feeling of getting scammed is quite disturbing. I wouldn't mind to pay the normal price of 60 if it is the same for everyone, I don't like being amongst those who got scammed. My advice would be to hide it's your first visit, speak in Deutsch, and directly give the exact amount you think it is.
In my opinion, this club could be so much better but they should avoid spending money on useless stuff like that stupid helicopter on the parking: they lose space for cars and there is no link with the thematic of Oceans. For food, there is only one meal available, it was excellent and generous. But is it really necessary for a club? For the same price they could probably divide the portion by 2, offer 2 meals and start opening at 12 h.
The line up was I would say average, no true beauties unfortunately, I spoke with: Alma, Corina and her blond friend, Alexandra, Amba, Ani, Maria, Denisa and some others I forgot their names. And I only sessioned Andrea (same kind of that face than Anya from Sharks) and Malina. Both sessions were very good.
I am quite used to girls with options but at Oceans prices can be quite different from one girl to another.
I also noticed some girls wear one piece swimsuit, another dumb idea of Oceans, probably to respect the thematic. Problem is that it is not very sexy but girls change with lingerie later in the evening.
About the wellness area: the dampfbad was bigger than in Samya and Sharks but the smell was unpleasant. Like Samya there is a rest room (only six places) but there is no couch where you can put your back straight. At least you don't hear too much the music. No jacuzzi.
About the robes: there is no extra costs and most of people wear it. Apparently, there is a free entry for people with a suit but there are very few and they look pretty ridiculous to me: what the hell, it's a f*ng brothel.
A club you should visit just once, to see. Other clubs offer much better.
Maybe the webmaster could replace the umlaut in Dusseldorf in main url link.
So, yesterday was my first visit Oceans. At the reception, the thekefrau refused me the discount from the big add sign next to her and she refused me the '2 zu 1 aktion' as well. I was not convinced by the explanation and this feeling of getting scammed is quite disturbing. I wouldn't mind to pay the normal price of 60 if it is the same for everyone, I don't like being amongst those who got scammed. My advice would be to hide it's your first visit, speak in Deutsch, and directly give the exact amount you think it is.
In my opinion, this club could be so much better but they should avoid spending money on useless stuff like that stupid helicopter on the parking: they lose space for cars and there is no link with the thematic of Oceans. For food, there is only one meal available, it was excellent and generous. But is it really necessary for a club? For the same price they could probably divide the portion by 2, offer 2 meals and start opening at 12 h.
The line up was I would say average, no true beauties unfortunately, I spoke with: Alma, Corina and her blond friend, Alexandra, Amba, Ani, Maria, Denisa and some others I forgot their names. And I only sessioned Andrea (same kind of that face than Anya from Sharks) and Malina..This club is just a shame for such not honest desk, not respecting what is written in the club, or on website.
I'm french, I have no reason to play being German, I don't like to be fucked. Only good reason to return, would be to follow a great girl, but I don't think it's the best club to get good business.
I saw guys in street clothes at night.
Good point is quiet relax room, to sleep until 7 am.
Was my first time at Oceans yesterday and first time at a FKK. Didn't think I would have to pay extra for OWO and FK everytime, those two services are usually key to me and I was quoted 100 euro 30 minutes usually. I don't really remember names: 1 bad session with a tall slim blonde who tried to rip me off after I told her it was my first time at a FKK (mistake on my part). A few average sessions and one really good session (think the girls name was Christie?, 30 year old, Spanish, small) I did spot a couple of stunners but they were always busy so never got a chance.
To the guy that below that was there last night I would be interested to hear some general points how that compares to other clubs.
I found around 11/12 there seemed to be lots of guys arriving and well outnumbering the girls and I struggled to find a girl after this as they stopped really approaching or were usually busy.
I had enough fun to want to maybe try out another club but wouldn't return to Oceans.
I traveled on the 701 tramline and got of at the stop before that ISS Dome, cost 2.5 euros I think, takes about 20 minutes from central Dusseldorf and then only 5 min walk from the stop.
I also noticed some girls wear one piece swimsuit, another dumb idea of Oceans, probably to respect the thematic. Problem is that it is not very sexy but girls change with lingerie later in the evening.I personally find the one piece swimsuits to be very very sexy. But each to themselves. Why I dubbed them 'condom dresses' here once.
Rumor has it some of the entry bargains don't work on saturdays. Since I heard that I've skipped the club on Saturdays. Maybe someone can ask about that also.
ExpatLover
01-28-18, 21:22
Was my first time at Oceans yesterday and first time at a FKK. Didn't think I would have to pay extra for OWO and FK everytime, those two services are usually key to me and I was quoted 100 euro 30 minutes usually. I don't really remember names: 1 bad session with a tall slim blonde who tried to rip me off after I told her it was my first time at a FKK (mistake on my part). A few average sessions and one really good session (think the girls name was Christie?, 30 year old, Spanish, small) I did spot a couple of stunners but they were always busy so never got a chance.
To the guy that below that was there last night I would be interested to hear some general points how that compares to other clubs.
I found around 11/12 there seemed to be lots of guys arriving and well outnumbering the girls and I struggled to find a girl after this as they stopped really approaching or were usually busy.
I had enough fun to want to maybe try out another club but wouldn't return to Oceans.
I traveled on the 701 tramline and got of at the stop before that ISS Dome, cost 2.5 euros I think, takes about 20 minutes from central Dusseldorf and then only 5 min walk from the stop.Ocean is not a good club at all and even more challenging for a first timer. Better you try Samya or GT.
Rumor has it some of the entry bargains don't work on saturdays. Since I heard that I've skipped the club on Saturdays. Maybe someone can ask about that also.Nothing works in Oceans, even the lockers LOL. But I somehow do like the club though.
Banana Boi
02-02-18, 11:25
Apparently, there is a free entry for people with a suit but there are very few and they look pretty ridiculous to me: what the hell, it's a f*ng brothel.
If I wear a suit to Oceans I get free entry or do you mean I must wear the suit while INSIDE Oceans?
KingOfBongo
02-02-18, 15:52
If I wear a suit to Oceans I get free entry or do you mean I must wear the suit while INSIDE Oceans?In my understanding you have to keep it but can ask anytime for a robe. And in that case you have to pay your entry. And the free entry is most probably the one without the a la carte menu.
It must not be very practical (and hygienic) to put your suit back after a room.
In my visit I just saw one guy in suit, a few others were in street clothes.
In my opinion, this club could be so much better
Been thinking this for 1. 5 years now. So much potential if things were tweaked and if the attitutdes of the girls were reigned in. Out of 3 visits, last night was the first time that I found an overall acceptable line up for optics. However, the upselling here is unacceptable for an NRW club. I've had 3 rooms in this club in 3 visits and they tried to upsell in all 3 rooms. It's got a Hessen vibe with below Hessen optics.
I'll keep it as a semi annual scouting visit just to see how the club progresses. I feel wierd saying it, but this club needs more German clientele to whip these girls in line.
Apparently, there is a free entry for people with a suit but there are very few and they look pretty ridiculous to me: what the hell, it's a f*ng brothelWhile I agree that a single guy in a suit alone will look silly and ridiculous, I beg to differ on what you about it being wrong in a brothel. In the older days (and you still see those gentlemen every now and then) wearing a suit in a good brothel was simply good form. A dress code more often than not refers to actual clothes and not towels around the waist or a bathrobe.
But that is off topic.
Banana Boi
02-03-18, 02:14
I guess wearing a suit is a good way to go in, check the place out, then decide whether or not you want to pay an entry fee. I would never actually stay in the club in a suit unless I went in, immediately had a session with a girl, and left right after.
The way I understood the suit deal was that it is now free to use a suit as opposed to it having cost an extra fee in the past. But I never cared nor tried. Management wears suits though and it can sometimes seem like there are too much management. So I have no idea how many suit going customers I've seen. If you only see them by the bar, its probably just management.
ExpatLover
02-03-18, 09:20
Been thinking this for 1. 5 years now. So much potential if things were tweaked and if the attitutdes of the girls were reigned in. Out of 3 visits, last night was the first time that I found an overall acceptable line up for optics. However, the upselling here is unacceptable for an NRW club. I've had 3 rooms in this club in 3 visits and they tried to upsell in all 3 rooms. It's got a Hessen vibe with below Hessen optics.
I'll keep it as a semi annual scouting visit just to see how the club progresses. I feel wierd saying it, but this club needs more German clientele to whip these girls in line.Reduced LU, girls upselling a lot, a no go for me at least.
Solid State
02-05-18, 00:36
Or like lifting the hood of stunning muscle car only to find a diddy lawn mower engine. Yes this place could be so much better. Your pricey 60 euro entry is probably to pay off the decor that literally looks a million dollars. Now all they have to do is get some girls in there that look a million dollars, don't have a poor attitude and don't want to bend you over to get what they want. Beware your entry allows you one free meal. If they tag your bracelet after that expect a bill on leaving.
The way I understood the suit deal was that it is now free to use a suit as opposed to it having cost an extra fee in the past. But I never cared nor tried. Management wears suits though and it can sometimes seem like there are too much management. So I have no idea how many suit going customers I've seen. If you only see them by the bar, its probably just management.Wear suit. Well they cannot even manage the lockers that never works LOL.
I always find a locker that works. But indeed, half is kaput! Not that there is a lack of lockers though. At least not yet, but they should look into fixing it for sure. Strange thing this last weekend was that they had a better lineup on Thursday than on Saturday. The Romanian lot is suffering, and I only saw Eleny shortly. While the Bulgarian group is gaining strength (Emmanuel, meggie, raia, Annie etc). I don't know what the deal is here, but a small Bulgarian contageant will have a hard time holding up a club this size. Romanian must get stronger! It was a bit below par on Saturday. Thursday was good.
ExpatLover
02-06-18, 21:28
Or like lifting the hood of stunning muscle car only to find a diddy lawn mower engine. Yes this place could be so much better. Your pricey 60 euro entry is probably to pay off the decor that literally looks a million dollars. Now all they have to do is get some girls in there that look a million dollars, don't have a poor attitude and don't want to bend you over to get what they want. Beware your entry allows you one free meal. If they tag your bracelet after that expect a bill on leaving.Too late the club is already going down so fast that it will be impossible to recover.
I always find a locker that works. But indeed, half is kaput! Not that there is a lack of lockers though. At least not yet, but they should look into fixing it for sure. Strange thing this last weekend was that they had a better lineup on Thursday than on Saturday. The Romanian lot is suffering, and I only saw Eleny shortly. While the Bulgarian group is gaining strength (Emmanuel, meggie, raia, Annie etc). I don't know what the deal is here, but a small Bulgarian contageant will have a hard time holding up a club this size. Romanian must get stronger! It was a bit below par on Saturday. Thursday was good.Bulgarian can be hot, but I never really came across Bulgarian that is stunner level yet. Romanians I came across many stunners, I begin to appreciate them lately.
I like Oceans more than living room, but service is better at living room, LU is better at Oceans I think after 6 pm though LOL.
I hope LU get better in oceans toward summer time as I be there I think LOL.
ExpatLover
02-13-18, 20:36
Bulgarian can be hot, but I never really came across Bulgarian that is stunner level yet. Romanians I came across many stunners, I begin to appreciate them lately.
I like Oceans more than living room, but service is better at living room, LU is better at Oceans I think after 6 pm though LOL.
I hope LU get better in oceans toward summer time as I be there I think LOL.Just spoke today with German senior mongers about Ocean, it is a Turkish club I think there is no need to waste time and energy to go there, in this area better to visit Samya.
Bulgarian can be hot, but I never really came across Bulgarian that is stunner level yet. Romanians I came across many stunners, I begin to appreciate them lately.
I like Oceans more than living room, but service is better at living room, LU is better at Oceans I think after 6 pm though LOL.
I hope LU get better in oceans toward summer time as I be there I think LOL.I may have been there on a between week. Week before was messe and some party. Week after was something else. But nothing the weekend I was there. So may just be bad luck I think.
Most clubs had a bit shaky lineup this trip. Actually all the clubs did aside from maybe yy. But then again I have only been there twice, so bad comparison.
I don't know about what stunner level is to you, but I see many hot Bulgarians and Romanians. I don't think the ratio is very different. Bulgarians are usually ranked pretty high up on internet polls on where the prettiest girls comes from though, which may transcend yours or my taste. But in fkks like elsewhere in life in many cases nationalities tends to stick together. So when I wrote what I wrote, it also meant that at least one or two groups of romanians were away at the same time. Maybe on vacation. Maybe a party. Who knows? I recall at aca last year lineup fell through the floor. Because 70% of the top girls. Some 5-6 of them were friends and took vacation at the same time for maybe a month.
I may have been there on a between week. Week before was messe and some party. Week after was something else. But nothing the weekend I was there. So may just be bad luck I think.
Most clubs had a bit shaky lineup this trip. Actually all the clubs did aside from maybe yy. But then again I have only been there twice, so bad comparison.
I don't know about what stunner level is to you, but I see many hot Bulgarians and Romanians. I don't think the ratio is very different. Bulgarians are usually ranked pretty high up on internet polls on where the prettiest girls comes from though, which may transcend yours or my taste. But in fkks like elsewhere in life in many cases nationalities tends to stick together. So when I wrote what I wrote, it also meant that at least one or two groups of romanians were away at the same time. Maybe on vacation. Maybe a party. Who knows? I recall at aca last year lineup fell through the floor. Because 70% of the top girls. Some 5-6 of them were friends and took vacation at the same time for maybe a month.YY has good line up? I always thought YY has bad line up.
Let me know your opinion about girls optic of YY because I am interested of going there since BBBJ law kicked in Germany.
ExpatLover
02-16-18, 15:43
YY has good line up? I always thought YY has bad line up.
Let me know your opinion about girls optic of YY because I am interested of going there since BBBJ law kicked in Germany.You are a veteran of the P6 scene, so perfectly aware that everything's the same as before the 1st of July, perhaps some new girls need to be convinced but takes less than 5 seconds.
Yy had interesting lineup for me since I haven't been there much. It's not as good as Oceans lineup when oceans is on top though. Maybe yy lineup was on aca level.
Yy had interesting lineup for me since I haven't been there much. It's not as good as Oceans lineup when oceans is on top though. Maybe yy lineup was on aca level.Oceans do have mixed lineup when it is on top LU, mostly ro though, but do you actually met German stunner at oceans? My stunner taste is Eleny is my taste. You got same taste as me I remember when it comes to stunner taste right?
Oceans do have mixed lineup when it is on top LU, mostly ro though, but do you actually met German stunner at oceans? My stunner taste is Eleny is my taste. You got same taste as me I remember when it comes to stunner taste right?Blond Emma. De with good wife tattooed behind legs, is a real beauty with angel face, for me.
Blond Emma. De with good wife tattooed behind legs, is a real beauty with angel face, for me.I do not think I came across her yet with my 3 or 4 visits to oceans, I will look out for her next time. Thanks Siri! Drive safe this weekend.
Thinking of heading to Oceans this week (Thursday).
I like the club based on previous visits but they were 18 months ago.
GT too far by public transport. A few queries please to those who frequent the club a lot:
1. Entry fee now after 6 pm?
2. Is dark haired pole dancer Lucy still at the club?
3. Thursday. Dessous?
4. Thursday LU?
Many thanks.
Thinking of heading to Oceans this week (Thursday).
I like the club based on previous visits but they were 18 months ago.
GT too far by public transport. A few queries please to those who frequent the club a lot:
1. Entry fee now after 6 pm?
2. Is dark haired pole dancer Lucy still at the club?
3. Thursday. Dessous?
4. Thursday LU?
Many thanks.I don't know if anyone here on ISG frequents the club a lot.
Entry fee is on website. 40/60 I think now depending on what you choose.
I saw Lucy last time I was there on a Saturday. But I only see her every 2nd Saturday or so. Which has been maybe 2+ months apart.
Every day is dessouse in Oceans. Like most NRW clubs.
Thursday was better than Saturday on last visit. Its probably random, but the Thursday was quite good.
I don't know if anyone here on ISG frequents the club a lot.
Entry fee is on website. 40/60 I think now depending on what you choose.
I saw Lucy last time I was there on a Saturday. But I only see her every 2nd Saturday or so. Which has been maybe 2+ months apart.
Every day is dessouse in Oceans. Like most NRW clubs.
Thursday was better than Saturday on last visit. Its probably random, but the Thursday was quite good.Much appreciated. Glad Thursdays are good. Shame if Lucy is a Saturday only girl. I like her.
Much appreciated. Glad Thursdays are good. Shame if Lucy is a Saturday only girl. I like her.I have only seen her on Saturdays.
I have only seen her on Saturdays.I'm certain the one session I had with her (which was 18 months ago and excellent) was not a Saturday as I don't think I've ever been to the City on a weekend. However it matters not. That was a long time ago, she might now be weekends only and if so I'll sadly miss out. I'm sure there will be plenty of other options. Looking forward to it and will report. I've seen the club get some poor reviews but in my few visits (think 3 only) each time I've had a great time and enjoyed it. Don't like the restaurant policy of having to order etc. Prefer other FKKs where you go up and select but having said that the food I've had in Oceans has been good and oddly the way the dining is arranged somehow lends itself to good social interaction between punters and the girls.
John Traveller
03-12-18, 15:42
I should have followed the advice on this board and not visited Oceans, and thus be spared for the bad attitudes there. Still I went. My reasoning was that since it was Sunday I would be best off going to a large club as the linup of the clubs are the smallest on Sundays. And that I could be satiesfied with basic / mediocre service as long as the girls are pretty. Well what can I say? I didn't know myself good enough.
I arrived at 6 pm. Entry is euro 60. I didn't ask for the euro 40 option without food and drinks. I should have as the included food is just one serving and the included beer is just until 7 pm. This is just typical of Oceans, so much is extra! Upselling / Rip-off and so on. Well, at least the soft drinks and coffe is unlimited! LOL!
The line-up was small and disappointing in looks. Only a few doable. Also no diversity, contrary to what some says, everyone I talked to were Ros. And the attitudes showed clearly. So what can one do short of not taking any girl at all. I went for one that at was least was nice looking. Helena 27, fake? Blonde. She weared some kind of a dress (some girls in this place are too clothed). She said she had worked in Sharks before but didn't like the waiting time for rooms there. I think the real reason is that in Sharks the expectations for standards are a bit higher, also that they are nude there.
She wasn't too bad, but the 50 euro was VERY basic suckandfuck everything covered. Otherwise all else were expensive extras. Yes, she quoted 50 eur extra for each single service! Like Amsterdam RLD pay-per-service terrible pricing system. We ended up with her finishing me with a HJ. Well, at least I did come.
I didn't go with any more girls as I guess they are all the same in this kind of place. And generally it's not a good idea to pay more anyway, yes they will do more different stuff, BUT they will often not do it in a good WAY. That's my experience from upselling clubs anyway.
It's interesting too see how high prices and bad attitudes and bad service goes hand in hand. It's a bad-ass place that reminds me of Mainhattan. (So opposite from my experiences at LR the night before.).
The following can be regarded as positives in this club: Large space (although it feels eerie with few people), no smoke (alhough that means some girls are hidden in the two smoke rooms), no waiting time for rooms. Facilties and showers are clean and works well although the sauna and steam baths are not hot enough (strange as this is kind of a Turkish-oriented club, or what?
From now on I will stay at home on Sundays.
ExpatLover
03-12-18, 21:44
I should have followed the advice on this board and not visited Oceans, and thus be spared for the bad attitudes there. Still I went. My reasoning was that since it was Sunday I would be best off going to a large club as the linup of the clubs are the smallest on Sundays. And that I could be satiesfied with basic / mediocre service as long as the girls are pretty. Well what can I say? I didn't know myself good enough.
I arrived at 6 pm. Entry is euro 60. I didn't ask for the euro 40 option without food and drinks. I should have as the included food is just one serving and the included beer is just until 7 pm. This is just typical of Oceans, so much is extra! Upselling / Rip-off and so on. Well, at least the soft drinks and coffe is unlimited! LOL!
The line-up was small and disappointing in looks. Only a few doable. Also no diversity, contrary to what some says, everyone I talked to were Ros. And the attitudes showed clearly. So what can one do short of not taking any girl at all. I went for one that at was least was nice looking. Helena 27, fake? Blonde. She weared some kind of a dress (some girls in this place are too clothed). She said she had worked in Sharks before but didn't like the waiting time for rooms there. I think the real reason is that in Sharks the expectations for standards are a bit higher, also that they are nude there.
She wasn't too bad, but the 50 euro was VERY basic suckandfuck everything covered. Otherwise all else were expensive extras. Yes, she quoted 50 eur extra for each single service! Like Amsterdam RLD pay-per-service terrible pricing system..You just need to read my reports, Ocean is a no go club better you stay in your hotel room.
I should have followed the advice on this board and not visited Oceans, and thus be spared for the bad attitudes there. Still I went. My reasoning was that since it was Sunday I would be best off going to a large club as the linup of the clubs are the smallest on Sundays. And that I could be satiesfied with basic / mediocre service as long as the girls are pretty. Well what can I say? I didn't know myself good enough.
I arrived at 6 pm. Entry is euro 60. I didn't ask for the euro 40 option without food and drinks. I should have as the included food is just one serving and the included beer is just until 7 pm. This is just typical of Oceans, so much is extra! Upselling / Rip-off and so on. Well, at least the soft drinks and coffe is unlimited! LOL!
The line-up was small and disappointing in looks. Only a few doable. Also no diversity, contrary to what some says, everyone I talked to were Ros. And the attitudes showed clearly. So what can one do short of not taking any girl at all. I went for one that at was least was nice looking. Helena 27, fake? Blonde. She weared some kind of a dress (some girls in this place are too clothed). She said she had worked in Sharks before but didn't like the waiting time for rooms there. I think the real reason is that in Sharks the expectations for standards are a bit higher, also that they are nude there.
She wasn't too bad, but the 50 euro was VERY basic suckandfuck everything covered. Otherwise all else were expensive extras. Yes, she quoted 50 eur extra for each single service! Like Amsterdam RLD pay-per-service terrible pricing system. We ended up with her finishing me with a HJ. Well, at least I did come.
I didn't go with any more girls as I guess they are all the same in this kind of place. And generally it's not a good idea to pay more anyway, yes they will do more different stuff, BUT they will often not do it in a good WAY. That's my experience from upselling clubs anyway.
It's interesting too see how high prices and bad attitudes and bad service goes hand in hand. It's a bad-ass place that reminds me of Mainhattan. (So opposite from my experiences at LR the night before.).
The following can be regarded as positives in this club: Large space (although it feels eerie with few people), no smoke (alhough that means some girls are hidden in the two smoke rooms), no waiting time for rooms. Facilties and showers are clean and works well although the sauna and steam baths are not hot enough (strange as this is kind of a Turkish-oriented club, or what?
From now on I will stay at home on Sundays.Don't worry, I'm 1 for 3 there and the 1 good trip took a Herculean effort on my part in DATY, charm, and gamesmanship to salvage a room that was about sink as soon as the girl said extra 50 for BBBJ.
This forum is certainly no testimonial to Oceans! And of course that is precisely what this forum is about. Good and bad opinions. Both of which assist us all in making choices.
So. I posted for some help in the general forum and got some good replies from Pistons and Sirioja. I have a trip this week. Thursday Dusseldorf and Friday and Saturday in Frankfurt. I don't land in Germany on Thursday until 6 pm. I never hire a car as I like to have a few beers in the clubs. I wouldn't contemplate drinking and driving at all. Not just because its illegal but I am passionately against it. It endangers everyone and kills lives. I could elect not to drink. And would have the discipline given my thoughts. But as stated, I like to enjoy a few beers. Result is that I have to pay for public transport and worse, as I'm a fly in and out tourist I don't really usually take trains to hotels from clubs. Happy to get one there but not back. Taxis it is. I haven't been to Dusseldorf for 18 months. Visited Oceans three times then. Liked it a lot but I think this was largely due to hooking up with pole dancing Lucy. My type and fantastic service for me in 2 hour sessions. I've been to Samya but not to Magnum, GT or YY. I figured the latter two to be be too far to travel from taxi back to Dusseldorf. Siroja recommended GT or Samya, and suggested GT LU better. Pistons tells me Lucy only now works Saturdays and I'll be in Oase by then (and Sharks on Friday. Siri's suggestions). So the dilemma is which club to go to on my one night in Dusseldorf. I'm staying in a hotel near to the airport (Van der Valk. Been before and its walking distance to Oceans. To avoid the taxi debate).
I was pretty much set to attend Oceans on Thursday and of course there is almost certain to be at least one girl I'll want to session with. I rarely do 30 min rooms unless the girl is really poor. Had one terrible girl there last trip who asked for 50 more to do a massage on my legs and ass before we got started! I threw 50 at her and told her not to bother with the remaining 29 minutes but I'd be off to the desk to complain. That prompted a hopeless massage, dreadful BBBJ and I quit after 10 minutes, gave her the 50 and moved on. Happily managed to get my 2 hours with Lucy so all not lost then. But that dreadful experience appears not to be uncommon recently with very negative reports about the club / LU etc. It really is making me wonder if I take the plunge on a long taxi ride (and fares) to Samya, or ACA, Magnum? Or even GT. Is it really going to be worth doing that at say 7 pm? I have Sharks and Oase the following 2 days so one night is not a killer but when you only have 3 you want them all to be good! Temptation is just to say to hell with it and stick with the plan to hit Oceans and see what its like and then bail if awful. But I thought I'd canvass views from you good gentlemen to let me know what you think I should do! Thoughts / observations / suggestions welcome. Including how much you think cab fares would be to each of the alternatives. Many thanks in advance.
ExpatLover
03-13-18, 21:16
This forum is certainly no testimonial to Oceans! And of course that is precisely what this forum is about. Good and bad opinions. Both of which assist us all in making choices.
So. I posted for some help in the general forum and got some good replies from Pistons and Sirioja. I have a trip this week. Thursday Dusseldorf and Friday and Saturday in Frankfurt. I don't land in Germany on Thursday until 6 pm. I never hire a car as I like to have a few beers in the clubs. I wouldn't contemplate drinking and driving at all. Not just because its illegal but I am passionately against it. It endangers everyone and kills lives. I could elect not to drink. And would have the discipline given my thoughts. But as stated, I like to enjoy a few beers. Result is that I have to pay for public transport and worse, as I'm a fly in and out tourist I don't really usually take trains to hotels from clubs. Happy to get one there but not back. Taxis it is. I haven't been to Dusseldorf for 18 months. Visited Oceans three times then. Liked it a lot but I think this was largely due to hooking up with pole dancing Lucy. My type and fantastic service for me in 2 hour sessions. I've been to Samya but not to Magnum, GT or YY. I figured the latter two to be be too far to travel from taxi back to Dusseldorf. Siroja recommended GT or Samya, and suggested GT LU better. Pistons tells me Lucy only now works Saturdays and I'll be in Oase by then (and Sharks on Friday. Siri's suggestions). So the dilemma is which club to go to on my one night in Dusseldorf. I'm staying in a hotel near to the airport (Van der Valk. Been before and its walking distance to Oceans. To avoid the taxi debate)..Forget Ocean and give a try to Samya.
This forum is certainly no testimonial to Oceans! And of course that is precisely what this forum is about. Good and bad opinions. Both of which assist us all in making choices.
So. I posted for some help in the general forum and got some good replies from Pistons and Sirioja. I have a trip this week. Thursday Dusseldorf and Friday and Saturday in Frankfurt. I don't land in Germany on Thursday until 6 pm. I never hire a car as I like to have a few beers in the clubs. I wouldn't contemplate drinking and driving at all. Not just because its illegal but I am passionately against it. It endangers everyone and kills lives. I could elect not to drink. And would have the discipline given my thoughts. But as stated, I like to enjoy a few beers. Result is that I have to pay for public transport and worse, as I'm a fly in and out tourist I don't really usually take trains to hotels from clubs. Happy to get one there but not back. Taxis it is. I haven't been to Dusseldorf for 18 months. Visited Oceans three times then. Liked it a lot but I think this was largely due to hooking up with pole dancing Lucy. My type and fantastic service for me in 2 hour sessions. I've been to Samya but not to Magnum, GT or YY. I figured the latter two to be be too far to travel from taxi back to Dusseldorf. Siroja recommended GT or Samya, and suggested GT LU better. Pistons tells me Lucy only now works Saturdays and I'll be in Oase by then (and Sharks on Friday. Siri's suggestions). So the dilemma is which club to go to on my one night in Dusseldorf. I'm staying in a hotel near to the airport (Van der Valk. Been before and its walking distance to Oceans. To avoid the taxi debate).
I was pretty much set to attend Oceans on Thursday and of course there is almost certain to be at least one girl I'll want to session with. I rarely do 30 min rooms unless the girl is really poor. Had one terrible girl there last trip who asked for 50 more to do a massage on my legs and ass before we got started! I threw 50 at her and told her not to bother with the remaining 29 minutes but I'd be off to the desk to complain. That prompted a hopeless massage, dreadful BBBJ and I quit after 10 minutes, gave her the 50 and moved on. Happily managed to get my 2 hours with Lucy so all not lost then. But that dreadful experience appears not to be uncommon recently with very negative reports about the club / LU etc. It really is making me wonder if I take the plunge on a long taxi ride (and fares) to Samya, or ACA, Magnum? Or even GT. Is it really going to be worth doing that at say 7 pm? I have Sharks and Oase the following 2 days so one night is not a killer but when you only have 3 you want them all to be good! Temptation is just to say to hell with it and stick with the plan to hit Oceans and see what its like and then bail if awful. But I thought I'd canvass views from you good gentlemen to let me know what you think I should do! Thoughts / observations / suggestions welcome. Including how much you think cab fares would be to each of the alternatives. Many thanks in advance.If you want to cancel your Oceans visit, consider that one way fare from your hotel to Aca would be over 50 euro and over 100 e to Samya. Considering your later arrival time and the time it would take to use public transport (realistically 2 hours to either club from door to door) I'm guessing you would need a 2 way fare to avoid wasting prime clubbing time. That's over 100 and 200 euro to those respective clubs. Even if you chose to go to Living Room, that's still 40-50 euro each way to your hotel. Your taxi fares will be more than your hotel. If you don't want to spend significantly more money and if you can't change your hotel, I think you're stuck at Oceans.
Lessons learned:
-Rent a car, worse case scenario, you can always sleep off the drinks in the car.
-Don't ever commit to Oceans.
In early February, Thursday was superior to Saturday at oceans. I almost never get disappointed at Oceans myself, but I do every time at GT. Each to our own. But for next time, I'd also advise on renting a car. And then you can do the Aca / oceans combo in one day. It really is a good combination. Clubs are close. Lineups are strong. Especially when combining the 2 clubs. And entry cost is not too bad. When it comes to Lucy, she is not optically my type of girl. I only said Hi once and asked for her name. I have never asked her if she only works Saturdays. Perhaps she also works other days too. And I don't visit so much that you should consider me a know it all on Oceans.
Many times lately we have started at aca when they open. Then left at about 19.30-20.00. 20 min drive to Oceans, and stayed there untill it closes. Marathon days!
That is 9.5-10 hours in Aca first. Then 8.5-9 or 10.5-11 hours at Oceans. Can do 2 rooms in each club. Fantastic if you have the stamina. And nowhere else in Germany you can be clubbing for up to 21 hours in one day!
Rogue Nation
03-13-18, 23:42
Oceans is the one club in Germany I have heard bad things from all the guys and girls I talked to and whom I trust. Never set foot in there and am not planning to do so.
Oceans is the one club in Germany I have heard bad things from all the guys and girls I talked to and whom I trust. Never set foot in there and am not planning to do so.+ 1 except that I was there once to see this with my own eyes. At german boards there are zero or only very bad reports about this club. Oceans is only for naive tourists.
+ 1 except that I was there once to see this with my own eyes. At german boards there are zero or only very bad reports about this club. Oceans is only for naive tourists.Well no positive responses save for Takedowns thoughts on taxis which are very useful. The cab fare to Aca at around 50 is not out of the question. When I stay in Frankfurt I stay in Darmstadt one night for Sharks but I like to stay in central Frankfurt when I go to Oase. And its never less than 50 each way in a taxi. I did the train once and got off at Bad Homburg because the forum suggested taxis at Freidrichsdorf are few. Still cost me over 20 in taxi from Bad Homburg. Taking into account the train fare it was not worth the hassle for an extra 20/30 euros. So if Oceans is deathly on Thursday I might grab a taxi to Aca. For foreign tourists like me, adding 100 to the overall spend on travel is not a big deal. Sure if I was doing this every week it would become a factor.
Car hire, despite the comments is just not an option I'm willing to consider because as I mentioned, I like to have a few beers. Nothing crazy (drunk performances are awful) but I like to enjoy some beers or wine when mongering. It adds to it for me. So car hire / sleeping in cars. Non-starter. I accept this means limitations or taxi prices.
Nobody responded re Magnum? Is that just a bad option? I have done LR before (x2) but I cannot stand the smoking policy in that small lounge which is cancer inducing. The outside tented area is not appealing and overall I think for the cost of travel to it the club is not worth the bother.
So I'm Oceans bound and if no joy Aca by cab unless someone else has a great idea?
Well no positive responses save for Takedowns thoughts on taxis which are very useful. The cab fare to Aca at around 50 is not out of the question. When I stay in Frankfurt I stay in Darmstadt one night for Sharks but I like to stay in central Frankfurt when I go to Oase. And its never less than 50 each way in a taxi. I did the train once and got off at Bad Homburg because the forum suggested taxis at Freidrichsdorf are few. Still cost me over 20 in taxi from Bad Homburg. Taking into account the train fare it was not worth the hassle for an extra 20/30 euros. So if Oceans is deathly on Thursday I might grab a taxi to Aca. For foreign tourists like me, adding 100 to the overall spend on travel is not a big deal. Sure if I was doing this every week it would become a factor.
Car hire, despite the comments is just not an option I'm willing to consider because as I mentioned, I like to have a few beers. Nothing crazy (drunk performances are awful) but I like to enjoy some beers or wine when mongering. It adds to it for me. So car hire / sleeping in cars. Non-starter. I accept this means limitations or taxi prices.
Nobody responded re Magnum? Is that just a bad option? I have done LR before (x2) but I cannot stand the smoking policy in that small lounge which is cancer inducing. The outside tented area is not appealing and overall I think for the cost of travel to it the club is not worth the bother.
So I'm Oceans bound and if no joy Aca by cab unless someone else has a great idea?Just remember that girls start leaving Aca earlier than at Oceans. Line up will be bare by 2 am on Thursday.
Side Note: what a weird mix of health nut, morality, and mongering pervert 😂
BigBuddy69
03-14-18, 02:31
You can forget about magnum and phg (and villa vertigo too).
Just remember that girls start leaving Aca earlier than at Oceans. Line up will be bare by 2 am on Thursday.
Side Note: what a weird mix of health nut, morality, and mongering pervert 😂Loved the last quote! I'm a big "healthy fan" I. E. Gym / no smoking but then as you now know I like the beers! Morality on drink driving not matched by my immorality of my love of mongering! And then just to add to the boring image: there is no chance of me being in Aca or Oceans at 2 am. Beauty sleep! (I'the need a lot! Thanks for the heads up. Most likely I'll get to Oceans about 7. 30 pm and will have decided by 9 pm if I'm staying. If it's awful I'll head to Aca then for 2/3 hours heeding BigBuddys advice to ignore other possible options. Thanks for the help. Much appreciated.
Oceans is the one club in Germany I have heard bad things from all the guys and girls I talked to and whom I trust. Never set foot in there and am not planning to do so.
+ 1 except that I was there once to see this with my own eyes. At german boards there are zero or only very bad reports about this club. Oceans is only for naive tourists.I absolutely agree, I have no idea why some people (naive tourists) so desperately want to waste money by going to this club, and I'm completely clueless why PayForIt is so hung up about going to this place.
I'd say: avoid NRW (GT, LR, Oceans etc) all together and stick to Hessen. Too many upsell scam artists (especially in GT upselling 1,5 or 2 hours, in exchange for phone number and pre-booking privilege), too many tourists (from nearby Holland and Belgium), too many chubby 'desperate housewives' in the Line-Up, and too many 'Turkish' clubs like Samya, LR and Oceans.
What about Dolce Vita? Is it so bad it's not even an option for PayForit?
Never been myself.
BigBuddy69
03-14-18, 19:02
Dolce Vita isn't better than phg.
LR is far from being a Turkish club and upsell/tourist land is Hesse, not NRW.
Every single club has its pros and cons. It is just up to you to find out which pros and cons weighs the most for you. Listening to other forumers is really a bad idea.
Hessen is probably worse than NRW in average upsell levels nowadays, but NRW is far from flawless either.
Thanks for the help. Much appreciated.Well, good luck and happy hunting! Hope it works out for you! Let us know how it was.
I'd say: avoid NRW (GT, LR, Oceans etc) all together and stick to Hessen. Too many upsell scam artists (especially in GT upselling 1,5 or 2 hours, in exchange for phone number and pre-booking privilege), too many tourists (from nearby Holland and Belgium).This is the first time I've heard of too many upsells in NRW compared to Hessen clubs. I have only experienced attempts to upsell a couple times in several years of the hobby in NRW compared to consistent attempts in Hessen clubs. Yes, pre-booking happens with some popular women, yes some people pancake. I also regularly get 30 min sessions for €50, sometimes back to back. Oceans is the one club in NRW that I've had the worst luck in. The other clubs are always fair. I also like to periodically go to clubs that are termed as Turkish, to see different bears and different ladies.
I absolutely agree, I have no idea why some people (naive tourists) so desperately want to waste money by going to this club, and I'm completely clueless why PayForIt is so hung up about going to this place.
I'd say: avoid NRW (GT, LR, Oceans etc) all together and stick to Hessen. Too many upsell scam artists (especially in GT upselling 1,5 or 2 hours, in exchange for phone number and pre-booking privilege), too many tourists (from nearby Holland and Belgium), too many chubby 'desperate housewives' in the Line-Up, and too many 'Turkish' clubs like Samya, LR and Oceans.No upselling for me with some of the prettiest and busiest girls at GT: Kate, Diana, Lori, and I don't even run after them. I could but I don't take appointment with Kate.
No upselling at LR, but some girls complain about turkish nights now, some girls make good business with turkish. No upselling at Samya.
I had 2 really good girls, with no upselling at PHG, I had 2 pretty girls with no upselling at Villa Vertigo, I had 1 good Romanian girl ex Harem Padenborn, EMA, at Oceans, without upselling and kissing.
Maybe I m not a guy for upselling, even I m not German and don't speak German. Maybe all is about behavior, like having girls without needing to wait, when they know me.
I absolutely agree, I have no idea why some people (naive tourists) so desperately want to waste money by going to this club, and I'm completely clueless why PayForIt is so hung up about going to this place.
I'd say: avoid NRW (GT, LR, Oceans etc) all together and stick to Hessen. Too many upsell scam artists (especially in GT upselling 1,5 or 2 hours, in exchange for phone number and pre-booking privilege), too many tourists (from nearby Holland and Belgium), too many chubby 'desperate housewives' in the Line-Up, and too many 'Turkish' clubs like Samya, LR and Oceans.I'm not "hung up" about going here. You may not have read my posts. Which I understand as I say too much! I'm working in theüsseldorf part of Friday and needed to fly there first. I don't arrive until 6 pm. That really limits options. I don't hire cars. So I need a club close to theüsseldorf. LR is no use to me as I hate the smoking lounge so much. What options did that leave? Besides, I'm so far 3 for 3 on enjoying the club. Maybe I will hate it tomorrow -but I didn't have a lot of choice and who knows. I might just like it. I don't consider myself a naiive tourist. I'the done this a lot. I just didn't have much choice.
BigBuddy69
03-14-18, 22:12
If you can't stand smoke, the two Acapulco's are two options to consider. Service is generally better in Acapulco gold but the optics are worse.
If you can't stand smoke, the two Acapulco's are two options to consider. Service is generally better in Acapulco gold but the optics are worse.My impression at Aca gold was so bad that I felt the group had done a massive mistake branding the place with the same name as Acapulco. Even adding gold in the end could lead to people only having visited Aca gold thinking Acapulco is even worse. Which it definitely isn't. I definitely didn't feel well about Aca gold. Acapulco on the other hand while falling apart does have more of a character and soul. LOL. Plus some nice girls. Only Oceans competes in optics for me in NRW with Aca. (YY is just outside NRW).
I absolutely agree, I have no idea why some people (naive tourists) so desperately want to waste money by going to this club, and I'm completely clueless why PayForIt is so hung up about going to this place.
I'd say: avoid NRW (GT, LR, Oceans etc) all together and stick to Hessen. Too many upsell scam artists (especially in GT upselling 1,5 or 2 hours, in exchange for phone number and pre-booking privilege), too many tourists (from nearby Holland and Belgium), too many chubby 'desperate housewives' in the Line-Up, and too many 'Turkish' clubs like Samya, LR and Oceans.PayForIt wrote his dilemna pretty explicitly. Hotel already booked, no car, time constraints.
I'm going to start a list of posters whose comments should be ignored and sign every one of my posts with the list of names, LOL.
NRW has more upsell, talking straight out of his anus.
HeyyyyyyPaul
03-15-18, 11:46
So much negativity surrounding Oceans that I am tempted to go just to see how bad it truly is.
So much negativity surrounding Oceans that I am tempted to go just to see how bad it truly is.If you do, make sure you understand the pricing options going in, what is included with each price, the standard vs upgraded robeand, agree with the ladies on everything before you go to the room, have fun and write a report to let us know what you think. The first time I went was with a fellow vear. We paid the same price, had the same drinks (cola, water abd coffee) and ate the same food. Experiences with women was mixed but we managed. One lady tried to sell me a VIP room and was looking for about €1200 for two hours, which I thought was a good joke, she couldn't be serious right? When we left, they scanned my tag and I was free to go. My friend was scanned and he owed money for drinks and food. This is why I caution you to know what you're paying for and why I say I don't trust the honesty of the reception. I still return occasionally but I'm as careful here as I am in a Budapest Strip Club.
Just returned to the Van der Valk hotel after 6 hours in Oceans. Half expected to be leaving and getting a cab to Aca at 8 pm given recent very negative reports. I simply just do not understand these reports. I'm not German and I don't go to FKKs or Sauna Clubs every week in Germany. But over the past 5 years I've been to Sharks about 8 times, Oase about the same, Mainhattan x4, Palace x4, Artemis x 17, Oceans x3 and now 4 after tonight, one club called Romer in Dresden x1, Paradise Stuttgart x2 Sakura Boblingen x2, Samya x2, LR x2 (never again due to the smoke), World x1, Harmony x2 (Hamburg), Atmos x1, FKK Sunshine (Munich) 2 and 2 well known brothels in Munich x2. So all in all, over 60 visits. It's nowhere near the amount many of he members of the various FKK forums will have attended. Indeed some no doubt will have done 60 in a year or less! I've also mongered far an wide in Australia, Singapore, Indonesia, UK, USA, Spain (a lot. More than in Germany! Italy, Austria, Switzerland, France, Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Montenegro, Croatia, Romania, Cuba, Barbados, Venezuela, Brazil, and even once in Tunisia. Don't ask. It wasn't good! So I don't think I'm "new" to this or naive.
Oceans is NOT a bad club. I walked from my hotel (about 15 minutes). Decided not to take the unlit path around the back and walked along the road. Perfectly pleasant. Having spent an hour at the gym at the hotel I called Oceans for the pick up service but was told it would take an hour! Not good.
Receptionist was tall, dark, sexy figure and very polite. Asked for 60 e and made me aware this included soft drinks only (it was 7. 20 pm) and one a la carte meal. Absolutely normal pricing for me in FKKs. I don't get what all the fuss is about. Sharks tomorrow will be more, as will Oase on Saturday.
Locker. First one I tried worked with no hassle. Into club. My first criticism is that it is too dark / night club like which means looking at any girl from distance makes her look immeasurably better than she is! So better lighting would be good. Second criticism is the music. It was never too loud (as reported here) but was truly awful to my taste. Others may have liked it. I'm mid 50's and it was dreadful. My age perhaps.
Line up at 7. 30 was pretty poor. About 15 girls in total. However I already spotted 3 of them I was interested in. Got talking to Kiki. German blonde. Bit "curvy" for my normal tastes but a really pleasant girl. Agreed what was on the menu for standard 50 which included DFK. No persuasion needed, and no upsell on other services. Into room. Lovely girl, very energetic. Spoke some Spanish but was clearly German (from theüsseldorf). I recognised her friend from Artemis. The DFK was exceptional and prolonged. In my view not right given the law etc to stipulate about CBJ / BBBJ but I was not unhappy. Skilful. On with the hat and multiple positions and a trooper. None of this holding your cock to prevent full entry (which I get a lot. I'm no donkey but I'm not small) and she took a hammering very happily in several positions to completion. Excellent service from a very nice girl, sexy eyes, nice natural see cups. Body 6/10. Service 9/10 Attitude 10/10. No mention of any upsell at all. On the contrary I asked about a couple of other options, one of which she didn't do but offered if I wanted to bring a girl to me who did offer that service. I wouldn't repeat but only because she was a bit larger in the room than my normal type.
Off for food. Had the large Chicken schnitzel. It was enormous when it came on a huge platter. I couldn't eat it all. It was delicious. Service in restaurant 10/10.
Some drinks from the pleasant bar staff on my blue FOB, 15 minutes outdoors to get some fresh air. I was raining so I wasn't staying long. I do not understand why, with that amount of land they don't have a swimming pool. Obviously not for the wet night tonight but in summer it would be superb and would rival Sharks / Oase. Still no gym like Artemis. Which I love. Great way to spend recovery time. Shame more clubs don't have them.
By 9 pm the LU had considerably improved. Maybe 50-60 girls. I am horribly picky. I've been to Sharks before now and had nil sessions. Attitude matters as much to me as face, natural boobs (yes they DO exist in Artemis), slim, good legs, nice ass, and the right look / lingerie if it's being worn. Despite this list of requirement, there were at least 10 girls I'the have been very happy to session with. Reports of the LU being dreadful are a mystery to me. Maybe I just got lucky. Like the other three times I attended this club and also got lucky. Or maybe the LU is actually quite good.
Nearly selected 4 different girls but couldn't get my eyes off gazelle / giraffe like Yolanda. Blonde, Romanian. Very slim, bee cups (natural) nice blue eyes and a great attitude outside the room. Into the room. Fantastic service. DFK initiated by her. No upsell. BJ (smiling face) no upsell. Excellent skills. DATY requested and performed to a quite dramatic completion! Couldn't bring myself to end the session and stayed there with her for 90 minutes. Left the room totally exhausted and completely satisfied. There is no service she will no perform. Body 8/10 (perhaps too slim), Service 9/10 and Attitude 10/10. I would definitely repeat.
Drinks whilst watching some amazing blonde do a pole dance. Very professional. Tried to talk to her when she finished but she said she was pre-booked for the next 3 hours.
Finally selected Elena to end the night. Very slim blonde Ro, short blonde hair. Great roulette tattoo on her arm. Very friendly. All services offered other than anal (which I didn't request or want). Again DFK but this time there was an initial attempt to upsell it (for 50 extra! As I was about to walk away, I spotted Yolanda, asked her to speak to Elena to explain my likes / dislikes in the room and our 90 minutes. Elena grabbed my hand, told me DFK was included, off to the room. No further attempts to upsell anything. I was pretty tired after the previous sessions and struggled to finish but her skills got me there. Body 8/10 - again maybe a bit too slim, service 8/10 and attitude 8/10. Would I repeat. No - there are too many other options at Oceans I'the like to try.
Finished the night with a nice 45 min massage. Noticed erotic massage was on offer for 100 (first time I've seen this on offer in FKK. Nice touch. Got slaughtered on the Oase forum when I reported the lovely blonde there gave me a HJ 2 years ago and I didn't even ask her! Too tired for that so enjoyed an excellent professional masssage from the skilled lady.
Left the club having paid my bar bill (no quibble. I'the kept a tab and it was right) and 10 euros back to hotel.
Sharks tomorrow and Oase Saturday. If recent reports about Oceans being poor are correct I cannot wait as these clubs must currently be truly amazing. I hope so. But one thing is for sure. Oceans has a lot to offer, the food is good, the entrance fee is more than reasonable (comparatively), the LU for me was perfectly acceptable. I would say there were lots of 7's, some 5's and 6's some 8's and no 9's or 10's. So not amazing but more than acceptable. I find 9's and 10's rare in FKKs and to find one with excellent service levels is even more rare. They need not try so hard. But as Syzergies used to say (where did he and HB go? If you get to a club and there are 5 girls you'the like to session with that's not a bad LU. There were at least 10 I'the like a room with. And remember. I am picky. Oceans LU is fine. The club is a little dark. The facilities are very good. 2 of the 3 rooms were large and at good temperatre. One was also large but too hot for me (room 7 ground floor). It's large enough to get a quiet corner where you don't get hassled if that's what you want. The lighting is poor. It needs a swimming poor (and a gym please? But all of this horrible negativity towards the club is a real surprise to me. I enjoyed it despite my favourite (Lucy) not being on tonight as Pistons had confirmed. It mattered not. I had good options and I had a great time.
For anyone thinking of attending I'the say this. It is 50 times better than the cancer inducing tiny lounge at nearby LR. At least in terms of facilities and food. Of course I realise the LU will change. But for me, Oceans is a good club and I will 100% return.
Nice report and glad it worked for you. You and Pistons will now be friends! Perhaps Thursday is Oceans' day. The one time that I was pleased with the line up was also a Thursday. I don't think I had as much good luck as you avoiding the up sellers though.
Then again, I'd never go with a girl whose body that I myself would rate a 6/10 and then be able to consider myself "very picky. " Not a criticism, just an observation.
Going for 60 and 90 minute rooms and a one chubby might be why you're having good luck with the BJs and DFKs.
Hopefully you'll have as good of an experience at Sharks. Continue doing 60-90 minute rooms and an occasional chubby girl and you should have just as good luck.
Just returned to the Van der Valk hotel after 6 hours in Oceans. Half expected to be leaving and getting a cab to Aca at 8 pm given recent very negative reports. I simply just do not understand these reports. I'm not German and I don't go to FKKs or Sauna Clubs every week in Germany. But over the past 5 years I've been to Sharks about 8 times, Oase about the same, Mainhattan x4, Palace x4, Artemis x 17, Oceans x3 and now 4 after tonight, one club called Romer in Dresden x1, Paradise Stuttgart x2 Sakura Boblingen x2, Samya x2, LR x2 (never again due to the smoke), World x1, Harmony x2 (Hamburg), Atmos x1, FKK Sunshine (Munich) 2 and 2 well known brothels in Munich x2. So all in all, over 60 visits. It's nowhere near the amount many of he members of the various FKK forums will have attended. Indeed some no doubt will have done 60 in a year or less! I've also mongered far an wide in Australia, Singapore, Indonesia, UK, USA, Spain (a lot. More than in Germany! Italy, Austria, Switzerland, France, Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Montenegro, Croatia, Romania, Cuba, Barbados, Venezuela, Brazil, and even once in Tunisia. Don't ask. It wasn't good! So I don't think I'm "new" to this or naive.
Oceans is NOT a bad club. I walked from my hotel (about 15 minutes). Decided not to take the unlit path around the back and walked along the road. Perfectly pleasant. Having spent an hour at the gym at the hotel I called Oceans for the pick up service but was told it would take an hour! Not good.
Receptionist was tall, dark, sexy figure and very polite. Asked for 60 e and made me aware this included soft drinks only (it was 7. 20 pm) and one a la carte meal. Absolutely normal pricing for me in FKKs. I don't get what all the fuss is about. Sharks tomorrow will be more, as will Oase on Saturday..
Takedown,
You really have had limited experiences at Oceans. Recall you told me at Wellcum when I pointed at a girl that had worked a year at Oceans that you would have gone with her if you had seen her at Oceans. At Samya, most of the guys we know had Irene (another ex Oceans girl) as a top 2 or top 3 girl (now also at Wellcum). Even Sirioja likes Andra, but YMMV. You saw the Bulgarian group that Thursday and only the small Bulgarian contingent made you satisfied. Although you did say you liked Malina (probably the dancer Payforit mentioned) too for looks. You've seen Eleny (maybe Eleny was Elena at P4 I's report. Names at oceans tend to be just 1 letter apart, LOL) and Alina, but maybe not on their best days. And many others. It is by far the club that attracts the most girls in nrw. Most also leaves, but some stays, so it is a girl magnet club. And from there many girls moves onto other FKK's. One of my favs there says she has tried out about 10, if not 20 other clubs in nrw, but oceans is the best for her for various reasons depending on the club. Maybe it is the best in nrw ATM. There are after all no other megaclub in NRW(GT is really silly). With upsells it isn't any worse than Oase nor sharks recently. And YMMV like in most places.
HB has just changed name. He was one of the negative posters here on last page. But he is biased heavily towards Hessen, and especially Dietzenbach, the ugly 2 er club. Meaning girls optics are 2 out of 10, and not just that you do them in number 2. Just don't take what any posters says on their word. Bias is too strong with some.
Delta Indigo
03-16-18, 07:17
I had been to Ocean's a few times just after it opened. When I visited DUS, I used to go to ACA and so on, but on the day of the flight back, spend the day in Oceans before the flight. I always had to leave earlier than what was optimal and the lineup didn't get bearable until 16:00, unless I was lucky.
But except for one bad case, I can't fault the service here, of course that was before the new law. The service was not so bad and I could see that the lineup was improving with time, the service was better than Dusseldorf, Dolce Vita, where I often needed more luck there for good service.
However 2 things to note, those were the days of 85 Euro options, I heard about the taxi scam, although they never paid the taxi driver and so on. The front desk, except for the chubby black girl, did usually try to cheat and go over on their word. Even if the offer was on the website they claimed it was not valid, which is technically illegal. They did cheat an awful lot.
Secondly, being a voracious drinker, I usually get on with bar tenders. I actually get on with the infamously rude bartenders at Sharks, who a lot of other people complain about. However even I thought the bartender at Oceans was a mega rude bi* Was this person working for money.
On the plus side, I was always very impressed with the facilities, they are top notch.
The service was never as bad as some said, however not all complaints about this club are unmerited.
Have you ever heard of a club trying to rip you of on the entrance fee? Oceans was the only such experience for me, and they tried it many times, I used to argue and someones won, but they tried a lot as long as the heavy black girl was not on reception.
Rogue Nation
03-16-18, 08:46
Have you ever heard of a club trying to rip you of on the entrance fee? Oceans was the only such experience for me, and they tried it many times, I used to argue and someones won, but they tried a lot as long as the heavy black girl was not on reception.Never ever happened to me, even at Paradise in Stuttgart they would return 1 EUR when I handed them 80 EUR for the 79 EUR entrance fee.
It is one of the reasons why I am avoiding Oceans. Not supporting that kind of business model.
Nice report and glad it worked for you. You and Pistons will now be friends! Perhaps Thursday is Oceans' day. The one time that I was pleased with the line up was also a Thursday. I don't think I had as much good luck as you avoiding the up sellers though.
Then again, I'd never go with a girl whose body that I myself would rate a 6/10 and then be able to consider myself "very picky. " Not a criticism, just an observation.
Going for 60 and 90 minute rooms and a one chubby might be why you're having good luck with the BJs and DFKs.
Hopefully you'll have as good of an experience at Sharks. Continue doing 60-90 minute rooms and an occasional chubby girl and you should have just as good luck.Perfectly fair comments. I fully accept the apparent contradiction between "very picky" and 6/10 body. Like you, I'd never normally select a 6/10. At the bar, Kiki was wearing a very tight leotard. We actually joked that she looked like an ice-skater! It held everything in. One of the downsides of the NRW clubs / dessous. In the room when that beautiful garmet came off I confess to being quite disappointed. She was facially very pretty (first requirement for me) but she was more curvy than I’d expected. To be fair to her, my 6 is perhaps a little too harsh! However, if she was working naked in Hessen I would not have selected her due to the body even though she was facially attractive and a lovely girl to spend time with. But it just goes to confirm the long-known rule that very often the most stunning girls often provide poor service because they need not try so hard, and know another 5 guys are waiting just to sample her even if her service is poor, whereas a less popular girl does her very best to keep the punter spending more cash.
You'll also have noticed that my assessment is that Oceans did not have a single 9 or 10 out of 10. That was also slightly disappointing, but there were many 7's and quite a few 8's in my reckoning that if I was in the club 3 days running I believe I'the have 3 or 4 rooms without any issue with different girls. My comment was more directed at the stream of negative comments about the LU here. But as you say, maybe Thursday happens to be Oceans day and I just got lucky. I just don't know why the club gets such a negative vibe on here. For my $ (or even ) it is a nice club, with some good facilities and the LU is reasonable albeit not exceptional. It woudn’t be in my top 5 venues of all time but it wouldn’t be in the bottom 5 either. And in this part of Germany, if you like a beer, don’t hire cars (or sleep in them - interesting post!) this IMHO is the best club.
I just don't know why the club gets such a negative vibe on here. For my $ (or even ) it is a nice club, with some good facilities and the LU is reasonable albeit not exceptional. It woudnt be in my top 5 venues of all time but it wouldnt be in the bottom 5 either. And in this part of Germany, if you like a beer, dont hire cars (or sleep in them - interesting post!) this IMHO is the best club.If you noticed in my post, it was just a word of caution to know the rates and what you should receive for them. I said that I still visit the club. I like the clean air, larger space and food. This is usually a 10 pm or later stop for me, and the lineup thins out a bit earlier than I hope for on week nights. I still think it's a much better option than staying in a hotel by the airport. It is frustrating that the ladies who dance on the pole always seem unavailable. I think in the NRW area the food at Oceans and YinYang are in the tops. Other clubs include more food options throughout the day which is nice for extended stays. YinYang is also smoke free and has a nice wellness area. I hear that Oceans tried to install a pool outside but the city planning commission rejected the permit.
Limited?
I've been there 3 times. How many chances does a club get to waste my time and money?
3 for 3 for kissing upsell, even for 1 hour rooms!
Why in the world would you cite girls who left a club to argue that it is worth visiting. They left, as in not there, as in the club sucked so they left.
Girls there are trashy, not one is classy. At least half have soft bellies.
Only one room was decent and even that room she tried to upcharge for BBBJ. It was salvaged purely by me turning on the most charm I could muster, and 15 min of DATY. Otherwise I would have ZERO positive memories.
All other mongers that I personally know dislike the club. Went with McA, he doesn't like it. All of the French crew hate it.
Numerous senior posters here dislike it.
Hell, even the bartender we met asked why the hell did I go to that club with so many better clubs near by! The club's own bartender told me it's a shit club!
Pay4It admittingly enjoyed a 6/10 chubby girl. Mr Ho likes one girl there.
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And worst of all, a club called Oceans with no water! No pool, no jacuzzi, not even a fucking water cooler!
Takedown,
You really have had limited experiences at Oceans. Recall you told me at Wellcum when I pointed at a girl that had worked a year at Oceans that you would have gone with her if you had seen her at Oceans. At Samya, most of the guys we know had Irene (another ex Oceans girl) as a top 2 or top 3 girl (now also at Wellcum). Even Sirioja likes Andra, but YMMV. You saw the Bulgarian group that Thursday and only the small Bulgarian contingent made you satisfied. Although you did say you liked Malina (probably the dancer Payforit mentioned) too for looks. You've seen Eleny (maybe Eleny was Elena at P4 I's report. Names at oceans tend to be just 1 letter apart, LOL) and Alina, but maybe not on their best days. And many others. It is by far the club that attracts the most girls in nrw. Most also leaves, but some stays, so it is a girl magnet club. And from there many girls moves onto other FKK's. One of my favs there says she has tried out about 10, if not 20 other clubs in nrw, but oceans is the best for her for various reasons depending on the club. Maybe it is the best in nrw ATM..
Never ever happened to me, even at Paradise in Stuttgart they would return 1 EUR when I handed them 80 EUR for the 79 EUR entrance fee.
It is one of the reasons why I am avoiding Oceans. Not supporting that kind of business model.At Atlanta Hanau, they never gave me back my 1 € from 20, maybe because I m not German. But had 2 great girls at Atlanta, Dani and ex World superstar, Georgina who was busy at World when Madi was sitting waiting.
Pistons,
When my eyes are used to find the prettiest girls in clubs and to get them for regulars, yes I saw pretty girls at Oceans, super blond Emma. De and had a good GFE room with her at LR, superb body Sofia, Simona, Andra, but all 4 answered at Oceans: not kissing, so no room for me at Oceans on 2017. Disappointing room with superb Sierra on 2016. Sierra was at VV on last Summer.
And I hate to be fucked by desk, because I'm not German, so I let Oceans for Germans and Turkish in street clothes.
But keep on visiting if you enjoy, don't listen to others. I only trust my eyes and brain in FKK land, I let bullshits to other guys.
BigBuddy69
03-17-18, 07:05
HB has just changed name. He was one of the negative posters here on last page. But he is biased heavily towards Hessen, and especially Dietzenbach, the ugly 2 er club.Are you sure you read his posts? He's not biased towards Dietz at all
I do find stunner now and then at oceans, but only after 7 pm ish and only two or three max in lineup.
Polyamorist
03-17-18, 12:25
Only one room was decent and even that room she tried to upcharge for BBBJ. It was salvaged purely by me turning on the most charm I could muster, and 15 min of DATY. Otherwise I would have ZERO positive memories.
Na uzo billah, Takedown! And that was your best of 3! Sorry to hear that.
For me sex is something where both parties put in positive energy. If one person is putting in positive energy and the other is putting in negative energy, that is a con and does not really count as sex. I mean it is not a viable substitute for, well, anything at all including wanking off.
And yet many men and women across Germany are being trained, in clubs like Oceans, to think of this as the new normal. This positive-negative scenario. It grieves me to think these fallen FKKs can still find enough gullible mongers to sell this phony sex to that they can still make a profit.
I only trust my eyes and brain in FKK land, I let bullshits to other guys.But what if someone lacks self awareness and is completely unaware of his surroundings?
Options are not fantastic in NRW. Most clubs have few girls most guys would go with. So discussing the best NRW club is usually like discussing the lesser of the worsts. I think that is the key here. And then it comes down to luck and perhaps YMMV. There are pros and cons with every club. Indeed it was weird if the bartender said what he said.
Sometimes I only find 2 girls at Oceans also. Maybe 3. Sometimes 7-8. Up and down like most clubs in the area. But it seems to be the best club at recruiting new girls. Their retention rate is however a disaster. Like the young new hottie who said on first day she was not kissing, so we skipped her. Then she came to me and said she was kissing after all. 2 days later she had left the club. Touche really. But a problem is that most of the girls who is leaving the club, even some of whom did great service, are not to be found again in the other NRW clubs. So it really sucks how it just doesn't work for them in terms of retaining customers. The entry policy is a massive blunder indeed. And new girls might need some better inputs, especially when working with non-Turkish. Too bad the Turkish are so low on demands, but what can we do? If everyone skips a club, it falls further into oblivion. Better be hard on a few girls, and some might come back like the young new hottie did to me with a changed mind. It can be a minefield for sure, but perhaps some of us are better at handling that, and don't just go for the easy 100 e rooms in sharks and Oase, making repeats with the same theatre girls over and over. If they like you, they also like you for a 50.
Escape Artist
03-18-18, 20:40
Options are not fantastic in NRW. Most clubs have few girls most guys would go with. So discussing the best NRW club is usually like discussing the lesser of the worsts. I think that is the key here. And then it comes down to luck and perhaps YMMV. There are pros and cons with every club. Indeed it was weird if the bartender said what he said.
Sometimes I only find 2 girls at Oceans also. Maybe 3. Sometimes 7-8. Up and down like most clubs in the area. But it seems to be the best club at recruiting new girls. Their retention rate is however a disaster. Like the young new hottie who said on first day she was not kissing, so we skipped her. Then she came to me and said she was kissing after all. 2 days later she had left the club. Touche really. But a problem is that most of the girls who is leaving the club, even some of whom did great service, are not to be found again in the other NRW clubs. So it really sucks how it just doesn't work for them in terms of retaining customers. The entry policy is a massive blunder indeed. And new girls might need some better inputs, especially when working with non-Turkish. Too bad the Turkish are so low on demands, but what can we do? If everyone skips a club, it falls further into oblivion. Better be hard on a few girls, and some might come back like the young new hottie did to me with a changed mind. It can be a minefield for sure, but perhaps some of us are better at handling that, and don't just go for the easy 100 e rooms in sharks and Oase, making repeats with the same theatre girls over and over. If they like you, they also like you for a 50.Fair enough, to say that optically Oceans' line up is not so bad in comparison to NRW clubs, I can buy that. And you are right, it has a fairly large lineup with a lot of new faces every time I go. The problem is that it still has NRW level optics with Hessen style upsell.
If the management doesn't do something to improve their venue, I don't think it would be a terrible thing if Oceans went under. Those 100 or so girls would disperse to other clubs and some of the better looking ones may learn to stop upselling and give better service.
At the moment, some pretty girls at Velbert, prettier than Lucy for me.
On west Duss to NL border, fortunately can find few pretty girls with high service level. Still higher service level in NRW than Hessen, for me, but now it will be time for Switzerland, closer to ski, before returning to Hamburg after ski. FKK land have potential with Hamburg, NRW, YY, Hessen, Switzerland and Wellcum.
Also top Russian escorts back in Paris. No need to worry about lack of pleasure.
ExpatLover
03-18-18, 22:24
Options are not fantastic in NRW. Most clubs have few girls most guys would go with. So discussing the best NRW club is usually like discussing the lesser of the worsts. I think that is the key here. And then it comes down to luck and perhaps YMMV. There are pros and cons with every club. Indeed it was weird if the bartender said what he said.
Sometimes I only find 2 girls at Oceans also. Maybe 3. Sometimes 7-8. Up and down like most clubs in the area. But it seems to be the best club at recruiting new girls. Their retention rate is however a disaster. Like the young new hottie who said on first day she was not kissing, so we skipped her. Then she came to me and said she was kissing after all. 2 days later she had left the club. Touche really. But a problem is that most of the girls who is leaving the club, even some of whom did great service, are not to be found again in the other NRW clubs. So it really sucks how it just doesn't work for them in terms of retaining customers. The entry policy is a massive blunder indeed. And new girls might need some better inputs, especially when working with non-Turkish. Too bad the Turkish are so low on demands, but what can we do? If everyone skips a club, it falls further into oblivion. Better be hard on a few girls, and some might come back like the young new hottie did to me with a changed mind. It can be a minefield for sure, but perhaps some of us are better at handling that, and don't just go for the easy 100 e rooms in sharks and Oase, making repeats with the same theatre girls over and over. If they like you, they also like you for a 50.Better you buy a mountain bike))).
If the management doesn't do something to improve their venue, I don't think it would be a terrible thing if Oceans went under. Those 100 or so girls would disperse to other clubs and some of the better looking ones may learn to stop upselling and give better service.Well I rather feel Oceans is taking talent from clubs like phg, dv, magnum and maybe vv. Phg at least seemed like it was singing on its last verse. Then again, upkeep at some of these clubs may not be the highest. And compare it to phg for example, there is a long long long way left before Oceans would go under. To me it wouldn't be too bad if 3 of these other clubs went under in favor of Oceans and maybe one more.
I suppose we just have to live with there being a few Turkish oriented bad service clubs in NRW given the demographics in the area. In 20 years NRW will be Turkeystan 2.0 anyway. And rumors are even lr is getting more and more low demanding Turkish clients. Same with Samya and even Acapulco.
What we can do about it: just talk to the girls before going to the room and be upfront about not going with them if they hold back on stuff.
Samson Monger
03-20-18, 16:42
Well I rather feel Oceans is taking talent from clubs like phg, dv, magnum and maybe vv. Phg at least seemed like it was singing on its last verse. Then again, upkeep at some of these clubs may not be the highest. And compare it to phg for example, there is a long long long way left before Oceans would go under. To me it wouldn't be too bad if 3 of these other clubs went under in favor of Oceans and maybe one more.
I suppose we just have to live with there being a few Turkish oriented bad service clubs in NRW given the demographics in the area. In 20 years NRW will be Turkeystan 2.0 anyway. And rumors are even lr is getting more and more low demanding Turkish clients. Same with Samya and even Acapulco.
What we can do about it: just talk to the girls before going to the room and be upfront about not going with them if they hold back on stuff.I believe the "Oceans going under" statement was in reaction to you saying that the club would fall into oblivion if everyone skips the club. I think most people here would not mind if Oceans disappeared, after all, this club ruined the 75 E hour. It's done enough damage to the NRW scene.
The problem with Oceans going under rather than the other clubs is that you would still have to deal with the Oceans backwards management.
Well I rather feel Oceans is taking talent from clubs like phg, dv, magnum and maybe vv. Phg at least seemed like it was singing on its last verse. Then again, upkeep at some of these clubs may not be the highest. And compare it to phg for example, there is a long long long way left before Oceans would go under. To me it wouldn't be too bad if 3 of these other clubs went under in favor of Oceans and maybe one more.
I suppose we just have to live with there being a few Turkish oriented bad service clubs in NRW given the demographics in the area. In 20 years NRW will be Turkeystan 2.0 anyway. And rumors are even lr is getting more and more low demanding Turkish clients. Same with Samya and even Acapulco.
What we can do about it: just talk to the girls before going to the room and be upfront about not going with them if they hold back on stuff.NRW is not worse than Hessen. If you saw the difference at World between Winter 2014/2015 when there were drunk Russians, drinking beer all night in jacuzzi, and Summer 2015. No more Russians, but Turkish. They arrived at Sharks on Winter 2015/2016, and now at Oase shisha.
LR became also on beginning of 2017, only GT is not invaded.
Aca Velbert, Samya, PHG which was bought by Magnum management, are Turkish clubs. Oceans is also full of at night.
I had 2 great girls at PHG, many at Aca Velbert, 3 really good girls at Samya, unfortunately 0 at Oceans. Superb Emma. De was not kissing at Oceans, but I had a really GFE room with her at LR, when my regular was at home.
There are good and bad Turks like every nationality. As long as they are nice, there is absolutely no problem. Same goes with Germans or Russians. You find both types of both kinds. But as long as management knows how to handle people, it is less of an issue. But that may require bouncers with real balls. Not lame ass bouncers. Some clubs are better at this than other clubs. Interestingly though one or two of the girls I know are dating two bouncers. I guess with all the crazy men that comes to these clubs they like to feel safe. Too bad bouncers probably take drugs in some clubs too. I know a former strongman who took a bit too much. Now he is on life support by taking testosterone supplements every day. His body stopped producing it. So showing big muscles is not all. Any shortcut fucks them over, and it definitely make you less potent at fucking. Long term. Plus all that blood goes to the wrong muscle. But a job is a job. The bouncer that impressed me the most is our Artemis guy who took an air shot to the thigh. Crazy Russians.
I believe the "Oceans going under" statement was in reaction to you saying that the club would fall into oblivion if everyone skips the club. I think most people here would not mind if Oceans disappeared, after all, this club ruined the 75 E hour. It's done enough damage to the NRW scene.Maybe if you only take 1 HR rooms. Sure. But on the other hand, it may be best to not have this option in NRW also since it would have brought in too many tourists. At least if you would be competing with set tourists and not having the girls know you. And that could have had far worse consequences. If the girls want to hunt easy money Asian, American and Asian American tourists, there is always sharks and Oase. Oceans might want to be the Sharks / Oase of nrw, but it lacks the clientelle. Girls there don't like it and want the easy money Asian tourists. A few even told me they are considering turning into Asian huntresses because of the easier money. So they ask me where to find the most Asians. In the end it is a balance. What we do know is that Asians like blonde hair, slim legs, and care more about internet reviews and flock think, than their own experiences. And that's where we are at the moment. Girls in NRW want to stay in NRW. Girls in Hessen wants to stay in Hessen. Locals in Hessen advertise Hessen clubs in trade for cheaper entry from having tourists pay the girls so they get discounts for themselves. And the rest of us just have to navigate a messed up environment where mongers and girls are stuck and not enough on the road.
Samson Monger
03-22-18, 21:16
Maybe if you only take 1 HR rooms. Sure. But on the other hand, it may be best to not have this option in NRW also since it would have brought in too many tourists. At least if you would be competing with set tourists and not having the girls know you. And that could have had far worse consequences. If the girls want to hunt easy money Asian, American and Asian American tourists, there is always sharks and Oase. Oceans might want to be the Sharks / Oase of nrw, but it lacks the clientelle. Girls there don't like it and want the easy money Asian tourists. A few even told me they are considering turning into Asian huntresses because of the easier money. So they ask me where to find the most Asians. In the end it is a balance. What we do know is that Asians like blonde hair, slim legs, and care more about internet reviews and flock think, than their own experiences. And that's where we are at the moment. Girls in NRW want to stay in NRW. Girls in Hessen wants to stay in Hessen. Locals in Hessen advertise Hessen clubs in trade for cheaper entry from having tourists pay the girls so they get discounts for themselves. And the rest of us just have to navigate a messed up environment where mongers and girls are stuck and not enough on the road.Prices were the way they were for over decade before Oceans changed it and everything was fine.
Post like these make me start to think Asians in German FKKs are being scapegoated the way Jews were in in 1930's Germany.
Post like these make me start to think Asians in German FKKs are being scapegoated the way Jews were in in 1930's Germany.Don't fire the messenger. I didn't think it was a secret also. And you heard Evita too.
Samson Monger
03-23-18, 06:30
Don't fire the messenger. I didn't think it was a secret also. And you heard Evita too.I hear a lot of this but I wonder how guys know this "fact". Assume is more the word. Perhaps some of the Asians are big spenders sure, but does anyone know for a fact that the 200 euro half hour did not include CIM and Anal? I know a couple of French guys who always spend 200/ HR because of extras but no one notices when westerners pay loads of money. I think Asians are more noticeable to European mongers and some people create this in their heads to make them feel better when none actually know the proportional breakdown of the demographics of people who overpay.
When I'm thinking of at least four Asians that we both know mutually. All four have different tastes, rather than flock thinking based on reciews. None of the four ever overpays. One is especially cheap and each one rarely tips. So I don't know where you get your conclusions from outside of popular opinion on this board which is passed onto WGs to repeat.
Evita of Sharks is an Asian specialist but I do not recall her ever saying anything of the sort. She's too smart to say any like that outright.
Conclusion, sure perhaps there are a lot of big spenders who are Asian but they are also the ones who come from far spending holiday money. That can be said for all holiday spenders. Do they disproportionately pay needlessly? The ones Pistons personally knows do not.
I hear a lot of this but I wonder how guys know this "fact". Assume is more the word. Perhaps some of the Asians are big spenders sure, but does anyone know for a fact that the 200 euro half hour did not include CIM and Anal? I know a couple of French guys who always spend 200/ HR because of extras but no one notices when westerners pay loads of money. I think Asians are more noticeable to European mongers and some people create this in their heads to make them feel better when none actually know the proportional breakdown of the demographics of people who overpay.Except Evita kinda told us how that breakdown was. And she should probably be the for most expert on it I would think.
. One is especially cheap and each one rarely tips. That one guy is like most Germans. Maybe partly because he lives in Germany also. You do have a point, but so do I. Of course the vacation factor is strong, but even in south east Asia, north east Asians are spending more than Europeans. You can tell just by looking at the price tags on the girls they take from soapies or gogo bars.
That one guy is like most Germans. Maybe partly because he lives in Germany also. You do have a point, but so do I. Of course the vacation factor is strong, but even in south east Asia, north east Asians are spending more than Europeans. You can tell just by looking at the price tags on the girls they take from soapies or gogo bars.
Except Evita kinda told us how that breakdown was. And she should probably be the for most expert on it I would think.Spending big on luxuries at the fair market value is something completely different.
No idea what Pistons is talking about regarding what Evita says.
I was 2 days ago on Thursday from 8.30 to 10 pm at Oceans. And I enjoyed it. Paid 40 euro entrance fee. Note, that they always try to trick you into 60 e. LU was OK- spotted about 5 Germans. My favourites. Unfortunately there were no busty girls. Which is yet another fetish of mine.
I landed in Frankfurt early in the morning and hopped on an ICE train at the airport station, destination Dusseldorf. A couple hours later my train pulled into the main station there and I walked to my hotel which was not far from the station.
Dusseldorf does not have much to recommend it as a tourist destination but it is a rich city full of beautiful shops. The Konigsallee is the main shopping street and it's is a great location for window shopping and people watching. The Altstadt (old town) down by the Rhine River is another pleasant part of the city to stroll around for a while. There are pedestrian streets, a pretty big outdoor market and lots of places to eat and drink.
Of course, Dusseldorf and the area around the city also offers several venues where a man can satisfy his more lustful desires. Since I was traveling only by train and did not intend to rent a car during my trip, I chose to visit clubs that were more easily accessible by public transport or taxi. So Oceans FKK was the logical club for me to visit in Dusseldorf. I rested my first night in the city and set out for Oceans my second night.
I had planned to use the S-bahn (and my feet) to reach the club but when I looked at the route that I had mapped out with Google Maps, I decided that I didn't want to walk the last kilometer to the club in the dark. I pondered taking a taxi but while reviewing the club's website I noticed that the club's management doesn't like customers to arrive by taxi. According to the Oceans website, taxi drivers misdirect customers who ask to be taken to Oceans to other clubs, brothels and other dens of iniquity that then pay a commission to the drivers.
To battle this scourge of supposedly dishonest drivers, Oceans offers its own free shuttle service. I was skeptical that the shuttle was really free but the information on the website seemed straightforward so I called the club from my room and asked for a ride on the shuttle. Twenty minutes later, the hotel receptionist called my room informing me that "your driver is here. " I didn't know what to expect but we went outside and I hopped in the back seat of small Mercedes SUV. The front passenger seat was occupied by a young woman who was obviously on her way to work. When she turned to greet me, I saw that she was attractive and seemingly well qualified to work in an FKK. Hmm, so the evening was off to a good start.
After a 15-20-minute ride through twisting and turning city streets with no other stops along the way, we arrived at Oceans. It could easily have been a 30-40 Euro taxi ride. I wondered whether the shuttle driver would ask me to pay something comparable but he didn't do so. I was thinking that I should tip the guy 10 Euros but he didn't even give me a chance since he hopped out quickly and ran into the club. I never saw him again. It really was a free shuttle.
In the last ten years I've visited about ten FKKs in Germany, Austria and Switzerland (a few more than once) so I have enough experience to know what makes a good club but not so much that I am jaded about the FKK scene. Compared to the pay-for-play scene in the USA, almost any FKK is a fantasy come to life. Still some clubs are better than others.
In brief I enjoyed my visit to Oceans but I have had better experiences elsewhere (such as Artemis, Oase and Globe). Using the Michelin rating system for restaurants (1 star="very good," 2 stars="worth a detour" and 3 stars="worth a journey" I would award Oceans 1 star. I don't think it's a "destination" club, but if you find yourself in the neighborhood, it's worth a visit.
The layout of Oceans is uninspiring. It's just a big, high-ceilinged rectangular building with a bar, a dining room and kitchen off to one side, a kino behind the bar (not used by anyone while I was there), some bedrooms lined up on one side of the building and an outdoor area that was obviously not in use in March. The facilitieslocker room, showers, toiletsare fine and everything is clean and well maintained. But the overall atmosphere of the club is lacking in character, charm and sensuality.
I got to the club at about 7:30 PM on a Tuesday night so it's not surprising that it was fairly dead when I arrived. I would estimate that there were about 20 girls on duty and probably an equal number of guys. That's not a ratio to make the girls happy.
I'm not big on rating the quality of the lineup of girls in a club. I'm not there to judge a beauty contest but rather just to find that one girl whose company I would enjoy for an hour or so. I walked around and surveilled the girls (and they surveilled me) and my impression was that it was an average lineup. I briefly chatted with a few girls and fended off some sharks who approached me in an aggressive fashion. As usual most girls seemed to be Romanian.
Then I retreated to the dining area. There was no buffet but there were menus on the table. Since the menu had prices on it, I wasn't sure whether my 65 Euro admission fee included food (at the end of the night, it turned out that it did). A (full clothed) female server took my order-chicken schnitzel, fries and a salad. The food, freshly prepared in the adjacent kitchen, arrived fairly quickly and it was not bad. At least it was better than some of the awful German food that I have sampled from buffets in other FKK clubs.
After dinner I ventured back into the bar area and took up a spot close to the entrance where I could get a good look at the girls coming and going near the front of the building. I moved to the couches on the other side of the room for a while, chatted with a few girls and failed to make a connection that would inspire me to strike a deal.
I moved back to the same seat on the end of the bar and contemplated my options. Though it wasn't that late, I had a train to catch the next morning and I didn't want to stay up half the night. I was looking for one girl with who I could spend an hour and then call it night.
While I was scanning the room for a potential partner, my gaze suddenly fell on a girl seated with her back to me just a couple chairs away. I suddenly realized she had been sitting there alone for a while. She didn't seem to be part of any pair of girls or any clique of Romanians or other ethnic group. I couldn't see her face but she had pretty long, dirty blond hair, milky white skin and no tattoos that I could see. I watched her for a bit as she sat there serenely, seemingly unconcerned about selling her services.
Finally, I got up and walked past her while glancing her way. I looked at her face and liked what I saw. I smiled at her and she smiled back sweetly. I wasn't sure where she was from. Could she be one of those rare German girls that can still be found in some FKK clubs? Had I found a unicorn? The answer was definitely JA!
She called herself "Yuna," a variation of the Japanese name "Yuno. " I later learned that she is an enthusiast for all things Japanese. Within a short time of starting our conversation, I knew that Yuna was the one. Not just because she was German but because I immediately liked her look, her sweet personality, her femininity and her obvious intelligence. She told me she is a student who is originally from Dusseldorf and still lives there. The fact that she was a local made her even more of a unicorn.
She spoke fluent English so it was easy to communicate with her. I proposed a one-hour encounter for 100 Euros and she accepted my offer. I asked her if she would go in the kino and she declined but that was OK. We headed for a bedroom.
I hadn't really gotten a good look at Yuna's body while we were sitting at the bar but once she stood up I could see that her hourglass figure fit my preferences: full natural boobs, a slender waist and nice hips. She has a sexy German student look because, well, she is a sexy German student.
Once in the bedroom our encounter proceeded well and I was pleased with Yuna's service. She complies with the German law requiring a covered BJ. But she did perform this task with enthusiasm and sensuality. She was happy to allow me to return the favor and she tasted clean and fresh.
Yuna doesn't kiss and I realize that for some guys that's a show-stopper. It's great when a girl is willing to kiss and especially when she does so willingly and enthusiastically. But she had told me that she doesn't kiss when we negotiated the terms of our deal back at the bar. I like it but it's not a requirement for me. I'm more concerned with the girl's overall look and attitude and I found Yuna to my liking in those respects.
Sex with Yuna was great. She seems to like sex and she performed with enthusiasm, stamina and good humor. She happily maneuvered herself into different positions and performed well in all of them. She happily allowed me to finish on her boobs and she asked for no extra charge. She stayed with me until the full hour was up.
Because of my travel plans for the next day, I couldn't stay around long enough to try another girl so I showered and left after my encounter with Yuna. I took a taxi back to the hotel (near the main train station) and it cost 30 Euros.
All things considered, I had a good time at Oceans. Some of the credit for that goes to Yuna, a girl who met most of my desires in an FKK girl. Oceans is a club worth visiting if you find yourself in Dusseldorf but it's definitely not a destination club. As I said, I give it one Michelin star.
Spending big on luxuries at the fair market value is something completely different.
No idea what Pistons is talking about regarding what Evita says.She said straight out Asians spend more money than Europeans. Easier money for her. It couldn't get any clearer. I know you might wanted to hear what she said in a different tone, but it was pretty straight forward to me. As the #1 Asian hunter in German FKK's, she should have some backing on that also. Even if I as a Caucasian don't find her to be a top looker. Her game works easier on Asians apparently, but that is just 2 sides of the same coin.
Otherwise I want to ask you to name an FKK girl that does very good with Caucasians, but across the board bad with Asians.
She said straight out Asians spend more money than Europeans. Easier money for her. It couldn't get any clearer. I know you might wanted to hear what she said in a different tone, but it was pretty straight forward to me. As the #1 Asian hunter in German FKK's, she should have some backing on that also. I think regular mongers on this board knows that Evita is an Asian hunter No one would deny that. Everyone also knows she's too smart to say that outright. I was there. She didn't say that. That quoted statement is a very Trumpish fake news story.
Otherwise I want to ask you to name an FKK girl that does very good with Caucasians, but across the board bad with Asians.Any girl with a big (her) ass.
Rogue Nation
03-24-18, 18:43
Otherwise I want to ask you to name an FKK girl that does very good with Caucasians, but across the board bad with Asians.50%? All those girls Asians don't dig or get scared of.
50%? All those girls Asians don't dig or get scared of.Haha true. But my initial point still stands. Then again I see lots of girls not making much rooms at all some days, in most clubs. Don't know if I should feel sad about it, or if it is just how it should be. The world is not a equal place for all.
There are good and bad Turks like every nationality. As long as they are nice, there is absolutely no problem. Same goes with Germans or Russians. You find both types of both kinds.
Crazy Russians.Sure, I work with many very courageous Turkish, I need them for my job, they are at work at 7 am, work hard all day, they never drink alcohol, they don't eat during Ramadan, a bit different than the ones drinking all night in FKK.
When you speak with Russian women, Russians are more drunk than crazy. At World on Winter 2014/2015 , they drunk free beer all night, then hunted girls on the last hour, so my regular seemed happy I always took her, for our second or third room of the day, at the end of the night. She never refused.
She said straight out Asians spend more money than Europeans. Easier money for her. It couldn't get any clearer. I know you might wanted to hear what she said in a different tone, but it was pretty straight forward to me. As the #1 Asian hunter in German FKK's, she should have some backing on that also. Even if I as a Caucasian don't find her to be a top looker. Her game works easier on Asians apparently, but that is just 2 sides of the same coin.
Otherwise I want to ask you to name an FKK girl that does very good with Caucasians, but across the board bad with Asians.Even most of Asian types are easy for girls, some busy girls don't look for them, saying not to be attracted. Mostly little girls types run after Asians, women don't need to hunt.
Finally, I got up and walked past her while glancing her way. I looked at her face and liked what I saw. I smiled at her and she smiled back sweetly. I wasn't sure where she was from. Could she be one of those rare German girls that can still be found in some FKK clubs? Had I found a unicorn? The answer was definitely JA!
She called herself "Yuna," a variation of the Japanese name "Yuno. " I later learned that she is an enthusiast for all things Japanese. Within a short time of starting our conversation, I knew that Yuna was the one. Not just because she was German but because I immediately liked her look, her sweet personality, her femininity and her obvious intelligence. She told me she is a student who is originally from Dusseldorf and still lives there. The fact that she was a local made her even more of a unicorn.
She spoke fluent English so it was easy to communicate with her. I proposed a one-hour encounter for 100 Euros and she accepted my offer. I asked her if she would go in the kino and she declined but that was OK. We headed for a bedroom..Good for you, but can find German girls who are really pretty, much prettier for me than Mandy Sharks even she is lovely, and who kiss and BBBJ without any extra, just for club rate.
A real model type, 1,78 , discovered on this week end, kissing fluently like a real GF, so sensitive. Only 3 rooms with her for my short FKK week end, perfect week end. L wish she won't change and keep her freshness. Appointment taken for after ski time.
Even most of Asian types are easy for girls, some busy girls don't look for them, saying not to be attracted. Mostly little girls types run after Asians, women don't need to hunt.Evita is not that petite. I normally go for shorter. LOL.
Haha true. But my initial point still stands. Then again I see lots of girls not making much rooms at all some days, in most clubs. Don't know if I should feel sad about it, or if it is just how it should be. The world is not a equal place for all.Some girls are full busy, some girls don't work. I saw real beauties who were good for me, not working. Some girls are full busy on some days, and not working, waiting whole day on some other days.
Some girls seem use to short time rooms, some not so pretty have long time rooms.
About Oceans, not only Yuna. De not kissing, I remember superb blond EMA. De saying not kissing on a Thursday night on February 2017, so I didn't go with her and she was really not busy. She moved for a few days at LR, as Jana, where I met her on April for a GFE, kissing room, but still not busy. I saw her again at GT on beginning of 2018, saying not anymore kissing, so no room, regrets because she can be sweet when she wants, but when a girl say not kissing, I run away. Easy for girls to get rid of me. Not kissing girls are frustrating and not interesting for me. So I never went with pretty with so sexy body Sofi, Simona and Andra at Oceans.
Even most of Asian types are easy for girls, some busy girls don't look for them, saying not to be attracted. Odd comment to make about a particular group. I'm guessing 25 year old women are also not attracted to old, grey haired men but they still look for them. Just my 2 cents.
Evita is not that petite. I normally go for shorter. LOL.Little girls are nothing about height for me, but for look and behavior. I never wrote Evita is a little girl, she is just clever for her business. Respect for her cleverness to make dream many guys, even not my dream, when I dream with some other girls. Each one own tastes.
Odd comment to make about a particular group. I'm guessing 25 year old women are also not attracted to old, grey haired men but they still look for them. Just my 2 cents.I like when my regulars come to me, without needing to run after or wait. My Hungarian regular still come to me to ask if I want her, asking me to make her cum when we are in room. I didn't know girls can cum many times on many rooms, when they are really not attracted by a guy, at least for his manners and way to treat them. Cumming usually come from mind excitation, more than body, for girls, and even more for girls fucked many times a day.
Some girls are full busy, some girls don't work. I saw real beauties who were good for me, not working. Some girls are full busy on some days, and not working, waiting whole day on some other days.
Some girls seem use to short time rooms, some not so pretty have long time rooms.
About Oceans, not only Yuna. De not kissing, I remember superb blond EMA. De saying not kissing on a Thursday night on February 2017, so I didn't go with her and she was really not busy. She moved for a few days at LR, as Jana, where I met her on April for a GFE, kissing room, but still not busy. I saw her again at GT on beginning of 2018, saying not anymore kissing, so no room, regrets because she can be sweet when she wants, but when a girl say not kissing, I run away. Easy for girls to get rid of me. Not kissing girls are frustrating and not interesting for me. So I never went with pretty with so sexy body Sofi, Simona and Andra at Oceans.It is depending on customer, now that she left, so I would comment on it, but Stella de for example at palace, she does not kiss clients, but she kissed me in every session as long as I went for one hour session. So it is depend on client and also her mood.
I like when my regulars come to me, without needing to run after or wait. My Hungarian regular still come to me to ask if I want her, asking me to make her cum when we are in room. I didn't know girls can cum many times on many rooms, when they are really not attracted by a guy, at least for his manners and way to treat them. Cumming usually come from mind excitation, more than body, for girls, and even more for girls fucked many times a day.Pictures or it didn't happen. AmIRight guys?
I like when my regulars come to me, without needing to run after or wait. My Hungarian regular still come to me to ask if I want her, asking me to make her cum when we are in room. I didn't know girls can cum many times on many rooms, when they are really not attracted by a guy, at least for his manners and way to treat them. Cumming usually come from mind excitation, more than body, for girls, and even more for girls fucked many times a day.So for people other than the O. P, to those Don Juan mongers out there who might fall into this trap and think a girl 20, 30, or 40 years younger than them, remember, if she really likes you, she'd fuck you for free. Until then, keep your heads (and wallets) on tight!
BigBuddy69
03-26-18, 05:47
Odd comment to make about a particular group. I'm guessing 25 year old women are also not attracted to old, grey haired men but they still look for them. Just my 2 cents.Some of them have a creepy stalker fetish!
So for people other than the O. P, to those Don Juan mongers out there who might fall into this trap and think a girl 20, 30, or 40 years younger than them, remember, if she really likes you, she'd fuck you for free. Until then, keep your heads (and wallets) on tight!I actually offered free sex in FKK once because I gave this girl some herb as present and she came up to me after for free sex LOL.
Other than that time, nothing is free in FKK with my 9 years experience in FKK, everything got price tag LOL.
I actually offered free sex in FKK once because I gave this girl some herb as present and she came up to me after for free sex LOL.
Other than that time, nothing is free in FKK with my 9 years experience in FKK, everything got price tag LOL.I was offered to have sex with a lady while another man watched. He was paying for everything. If you have an open mind opportunities do occasionally present themselves.
Vito Corleone
03-27-18, 00:37
I was offered to have sex with a lady while another man watched. He was paying for everything. If you have an open mind opportunities do occasionally present themselves.I was offered 4-5 times by the same guy at GT & LR. Can be difficult to concentrate when he's jerking off a foot from your knees!
I was offered to have sex with a lady while another man watched. He was paying for everything. If you have an open mind opportunities do occasionally present themselves.Hahaha, that could happen actually LOL I always disliked having session in artemis down stairs with curtains as I often see some guy trying to peep during session between curtain and girls going mad on them LOL.
Well I only offered once free sex as I gave her some green as I promised day before, so I guess she liked that I remember that as a friend and she decided to act like a friend in FKK girls way LOL Though this is the only time FKK girls showed me friendship in such a way LOL Most of time it is opposite during their attempt to up sell me some services in room they keep on saying come on we are friend! LOL.
I use it too, when I want something in room and she refuses, come on we are friend LOL.
I was offered to have sex with a lady while another man watched. He was paying for everything. If you have an open mind opportunities do occasionally present themselves.That happened to me too once. Or twice actually. One of the times were with a famous woman at sharks who later went on to work at Oase and then Samya. I declined, but maybe it was a bad choice. I don't know.
I was offered 4-5 times by the same guy at GT & LR. Can be difficult to concentrate when he's jerking off a foot from your knees!Now, I begin to think I am missing out a lot of actions in FKK LOL Send him my way next time LOL.
I was offered to have sex with a lady while another man watched. He was paying for everything. If you have an open mind opportunities do occasionally present themselves.Now I begin to think I am going to same FKK Oceans or gt or LR LOL.
I will keep my eyes on it, well I am in as long as I can choose the girl LOL.
Vito Corleone
03-28-18, 01:41
Now, I begin to think I am missing out a lot of actions in FKK LOL Send him my way next time LOL.If I see this guy in the club, maybe 50% of the time I bang a hot girl while he watches & jerks. Its free, but quite awkward.
. One of the times were with a famous woman at sharks who later went on to work at Oase and then Samya. I declined, but maybe it was a bad choice. I don't know.You are talking about Sylvana?
Now I begin to think I am going to same FKK Oceans or gt or LR LOL.
I will keep my eyes on it, well I am in as long as I can choose the girl LOL.In my case, he was paying and chose the girl. It was her job to recruit the 3rd and she approached me. She and I had talked many times but this was our first session. As a result, I have had several sessions with her afterward. It's amazing the impact of being watched can have, either positive or negative.
You are talking about Sylvana?LOL, indeed.
ExpatLover
03-28-18, 19:47
In my case, he was paying and chose the girl. It was her job to recruit the 3rd and she approached me. She and I had talked many times but this was our first session. As a result, I have had several sessions with her afterward. It's amazing the impact of being watched can have, either positive or negative.One thing we should never forget is that they are prostitute and just willing to suck as much cash as possible rom us, it is their job, mostly they have no other skills than to manipulate us to reach their target, and most of us are not able to control their very basic instinct, I will repeat it again just go one day to one of your favorite and tell her that today you have no cash, probably you will not fuck her. Sorry to be so realistic.
If I see this guy in the club, maybe 50% of the time I bang a hot girl while he watches & jerks. Its free, but quite awkward.Yeah I can imagine, well at least you get to experience how it feels like to be porn actor without being on it in public view LOL.
All things considered, I had a good time at Oceans. Some of the credit for that goes to Yuna, a girl who met most of my desires in an FKK girl. Oceans is a club worth visiting if you find yourself in Dusseldorf but it's definitely not a destination club. As I said, I give it one Michelin star.There are no 3 star Michelin clubs in NRW. But the area has the largest amount of clubs. So the area is great for club hopping on a 3-5 day trip. And can be coupled with the short 2 h drive down to Hessen. So in this manner, Oceans is well worth a checkup. But mainly to scout for girls. And if you know some names, calling never hurts. In NRW, calling before you go can be a lifesaver sometimes as lineups are usually tight. But for me, Oceans normally have at least 2-3 doable girls. Some other clubs in the area leaves you more on the edge.
All things considered, I had a good time at Oceans. Some of the credit for that goes to Yuna, a girl who met most of my desires in an FKK girl. Oceans is a club worth visiting if you find yourself in Dusseldorf but it's definitely not a destination club. As I said, I give it one Michelin star.There are no 3 star michelin clubs in nrw. But the area has the largest amount of clubs. So the area is great for club hopping on a 3-5 day trip. And can be coupled with the short 2 h drive down to hessen. So in this manner, Oceans is well worth a checkup. But mainly to scout for girls. And if you know some names, calling never hurts. In nrw, calling before you go can be a lifesaver sometimes as lineups are usually tight. But for me, Oceans normally have at least 2-3 doable girls. Some other clubs in the area leaves you more on the edge.
Heck, right now there are probably not a single 3 star club in all of Germany, and just 1 that I know of in europe. But some german clubs alterate between 1 to 2 stars depending on season and lineup. I would put Oceans in this category.
, right now there are probably not a single 3 star club in all of Germany, and just 1 that I know of in europe. But some german clubs alterate between 1 to 2 stars depending on season and lineup. I would put Oceans in this category.Stop. 2 Michelin stars? Oceans deserves a rotten tomato. Like the Justice League and DC movies, so much potential but fails to deliver.
ExpatLover
04-11-18, 20:32
There are no 3 star michelin clubs in nrw. But the area has the largest amount of clubs. So the area is great for club hopping on a 3-5 day trip. And can be coupled with the short 2 h drive down to hessen. So in this manner, Oceans is well worth a checkup. But mainly to scout for girls. And if you know some names, calling never hurts. In nrw, calling before you go can be a lifesaver sometimes as lineups are usually tight. But for me, Oceans normally have at least 2-3 doable girls. Some other clubs in the area leaves you more on the edge.
Heck, right now there are probably not a single 3 star club in all of Germany, and just 1 that I know of in europe. But some german clubs alterate between 1 to 2 stars depending on season and lineup. I would put Oceans in this category.I still believe that you are one of the shareholder of ocean.
There are no 3 star michelin clubs in nrw. But the area has the largest amount of clubs. So the area is great for club hopping on a 3-5 day trip. And can be coupled with the short 2 h drive down to hessen. So in this manner, Oceans is well worth a checkup. But mainly to scout for girls. And if you know some names, calling never hurts. In nrw, calling before you go can be a lifesaver sometimes as lineups are usually tight. But for me, Oceans normally have at least 2-3 doable girls. Some other clubs in the area leaves you more on the edge.
Heck, right now there are probably not a single 3 star club in all of Germany, and just 1 that I know of in europe. But some german clubs alterate between 1 to 2 stars depending on season and lineup. I would put Oceans in this category.So where is the 3 star clubs? Austria or zurich? We do not have much choices are there with same set up at german FKK.
I hear good thing about oase lately and also yin yang, I might take another shot at oase though my first and only visit was not good many years ago.
Yin yang I never been, so I may give a try.
So where is the 3 star clubs? Austria or zurich? We do not have much choices are there with same set up at german FKK.
I hear good thing about oase lately and also yin yang, I might take another shot at oase though my first and only visit was not good many years ago.
Yin yang I never been, so I may give a try.YinYang is a really nice facility, except the music is a little loud for me at all times. The Line-Up is a medium in my eyes.
YinYang is a really nice facility, except the music is a little loud for me at all times. The Line-Up is a medium in my eyes.I hear they improve the line up after the law, so I got bit interested.
So where is the 3 star clubs? Austria or zurich? We do not have much choices are there with same set up at german FKK.
I hear good thing about oase lately and also yin yang, I might take another shot at oase though my first and only visit was not good many years ago.
Yin yang I never been, so I may give a try.Probably Wellcum is the 3 star club at the moment. They have an on site hotel, best food, great lineup, and at least for me so far almost no upsells.
YY and Oase falls in the same category as Oceans (and Sharks, Artemis, Samya, Aca) does to me. So it all fluctuates a bit much and depends on the lineup. But all these 3 clubs have good facilities. YY has perhaps the least amount of upsells since it lies in NL perhaps. But it has perhaps the lowest high when it comes to lineup also. But I could be wrong as I haven't been there too much.
BigBuddy69
04-13-18, 05:23
I hear they improve the line up after the law, so I got bit interested.You say it almost every day. Why don't you go check by yourself instead?
You say it almost every day. Why don't you go check by yourself instead?I hear LU improved at YY so I am going to go LOL.
Yeah, I will get around to it, I never went further than venlo, but it is too far out as I do not drive, it is taxi and train for me due to smoking green herbs in venlo LOL.
Probably Wellcum is the 3 star club at the moment. They have an on site hotel, best food, great lineup, and at least for me so far almost no upsells.
YY and Oase falls in the same category as Oceans (and Sharks, Artemis, Samya, Aca) does to me. So it all fluctuates a bit much and depends on the lineup. But all these 3 clubs have good facilities. YY has perhaps the least amount of upsells since it lies in NL perhaps. But it has perhaps the lowest high when it comes to lineup also. But I could be wrong as I haven't been there too much.Summer is near and I be there in Germany to monger, but hmmm this year it is hard to decide which city to hit.
I usually like NRW at summer and winter in Frankfurt, but this year. Hmmm.
YY casting was great in December, not same level at the moment, have to wait beginning of May.
Many ex LR girls now at YY, last are Antonella and small Natalia. Ru. Also Gloria. Hu, Ariana, Bulgarian looking a bit like Sandra Bullock, and others.
Some high level girls met there.
Liza. De ex GT is there since a while.
Entry 50 before 2 pm. Closed at 1 am. Outside and inside swimming pool.
ExpatLover
04-13-18, 20:30
Summer is near and I be there in Germany to monger, but hmmm this year it is hard to decide which city to hit.
I usually like NRW at summer and winter in Frankfurt, but this year. Hmmm.I recommend you to buy a bicycle and to enjoy the very nice countryside, nothing to expect in most of the clubs, always the same Roumanian girls around, may be with your bicycle you can give a try to World one of your favorite club.
Anyone have pertinent recent Oceans info to post here? In NRW ATM.
YY casting was great in December, not same level at the moment, have to wait beginning of May.
Many ex LR girls now at YY, last are Antonella and small Natalia. Ru. Also Gloria. Hu, Ariana, Bulgarian looking a bit like Sandra Bullock, and others.
Some high level girls met there.
Liza. De ex GT is there since a while.
Entry 50 before 2 pm. Closed at 1 am. Outside and inside swimming pool.Is Kitti there? Hungarian one.
Is Kitti there? Hungarian one.Please see my report under the YY forum.
Summer is near and I be there in Germany to monger, but hmmm this year it is hard to decide which city to hit.
I usually like NRW at summer and winter in Frankfurt, but this year. Hmmm.Globe, Wellcum and Aca Velbert for beauties.
Oase is not so bad, GT sometimes.
Globe, Wellcum and Aca Velbert for beauties.
Oase is not so bad, GT sometimes.Velbert will be hard to reach by train and taxi right?
ExpatLover
04-17-18, 18:52
Velbert will be hard to reach by train and taxi right?Renting a car is really the best option, just because the LU are fluctuating so much after the implementation of the new law it is better to be able to switch from one club to another with his own car.
BigBuddy69
04-18-18, 07:06
By public transportation Velbert is 1 h15 away from Dusseldorf HBF and it's not that hard.
Globe, Wellcum and Aca Velbert for beauties.
Oase is not so bad, GT sometimes.A beauty list of clubs for me would have Wellcum, Oceans, Aca, YY, Oase and Sharks (Globe is a no-go). Wellcum might have the most stable numbers of beauties. The other mentioned clubs can all have sporadic lineups.
Below these clubs again, most other clubs seems to have max 2 or 3 lookers, so they seem to be a one girl club sometimes and calling may be smart. Too bad club receptionists at places like Palace etc don't really know who is working. Or won't tell.
Samson Monger
04-19-18, 22:28
By public transportation Velbert is 1 h15 away from Dusseldorf HBF and it's not that hard.The problem is timing. The route requires bus service in combination with regional trains. At best 1.25 hrs to airport but connections don't optimally line up so 2+ hours transfer waiting time is more often the case. If you stay past 1 am, you're shit out of luck for a return commute.
BigBuddy69
04-20-18, 05:33
If you use the apps, there is no problem to get a good combination. But you're probably right, if you stay late you're screwed.
A beauty list of clubs for me would have Wellcum, Oceans, Aca, YY, Oase and Sharks (Globe is a no-go). Wellcum might have the most stable numbers of beauties. The other mentioned clubs can all have sporadic lineups.
Below these clubs again, most other clubs seems to have max 2 or 3 lookers, so they seem to be a one girl club sometimes and calling may be smart. Too bad club receptionists at places like Palace etc don't really know who is working. Or won't tell.HOw much the gril will normaly charge in Ocean?
HOw much the gril will normaly charge in Ocean?Same as in most other clubs. 50 notes. Only Aca is different in NRW among the good clubs.
Delta Indigo
04-28-18, 22:28
Same as in most other clubs. 50 notes. Only Aca is different in NRW among the good clubs.Hi,
Does anyone know if they still ask if you came by taxi to charge you more? They used to have bizarre random entry prices depending on who was at reception, they would claim that the entry price advertised on the website is invalid. Do they still try such tactics?
Yes, they tried to pull this off with me too several times. And dared to ask for 80 - My advantage is that I can speak german very well and asked them if there really was another price increase lately! They then said: "oh you are not from the Messe?" - no I am not.
Apparently they only try this with foreigners from the Messe, who most likely don't speak german and / or came by taxi.
The real pricing is 3-fold:
A) 40 for the basic entry but not including food or drinks. Which is some harsh pricing, but I would select it, if you only come for girls. 3 beers are still less than 10 euros.
B) 50 basic entry including drinks.
C) 60 entry including food & drinks. If you are hungry, this is a good deal, because their steak is really good (if you like steak that is). But I heard the other selections are good too.
Hi,
Does anyone know if they still ask if you came by taxi to charge you more? They used to have bizarre random entry prices depending on who was at reception, they would claim that the entry price advertised on the website is invalid. Do they still try such tactics?
A beauty list of clubs for me would have Wellcum, Oceans, Aca, YY, Oase and Sharks (Globe is a no-go). Wellcum might have the most stable numbers of beauties. The other mentioned clubs can all have sporadic lineups.
Below these clubs again, most other clubs seems to have max 2 or 3 lookers, so they seem to be a one girl club sometimes and calling may be smart. Too bad club receptionists at places like Palace etc don't really know who is working. Or won't tell.It's amazing how different men's tastes vary. For me, Oceans, Aca, YY have a couple ladies I will session while at other clubs not on your list I have problems choosing. I'm happy for this and the variety of women in different clubs because it prevents a long line of men waiting for one or two ladies while thirty disgruntled women sit around sucking the life out of the party.
It's amazing how different men's tastes vary. For me, Oceans, Aca, YY have a couple ladies I will session while at other clubs not on your list I have problems choosing. I'm happy for this and the variety of women in different clubs because it prevents a long line of men waiting for one or two ladies while thirty disgruntled women sit around sucking the life out of the party.Problems choosing at other clubs because there are no girls that are attractive or because you have too many good choices?
Problems choosing at other clubs because there are no girls that are attractive or because you have too many good choices?I've been in some clubs where I'm in a lounge and have great desire to session 10-15 women who are in the room at the moment. These days I feel I'm suffering from anxiety because many women move from club to club so quickly that I fear if I don't take them when I see them the chance may never present itself again. So yes, to many at some clubs but so far from many visits to many clubs I have only ever left twice without a session and I think that was more a tired body protesting at the end of a multiple day trip.
I like natural pretty women who provide some French Kissing in a normal session. They need to be able to hold a bit of conversation because I normally take a bit of time with some rest between activities. At Aca I like Emily, at LR I like Rose and Ami, at GT I liked Felecia and Kim. I haven't been to Oceans or Aca in a couple months. My plan for last Saturday was for a visit to Aca but I spent the day enjoying the sites in Maastricht and was late starting so I spent the evening at a club closer by. Who are the new ladies at Oceans you would recommend at the moment?
Who are the new ladies at Oceans you would recommend at the moment?Just wanted to get an idea which clubs you liked.
I haven't been to Oceans in a while, definitely one of my least favorite clubs.
Who are the new ladies at Oceans you would recommend at the moment?Like mentioned before, the problem Oceans have is their retainment rate. So way too many girls leave after a few days or a week. Maybe just 20-30% of the optics stick around for months. But they somehow manage to get a lot of different talent to try the club at least. Some good or bad. So the lineup can be up and down. Lately the Bulgarian group has been going strong and seems to always be there with their 5 members (Emmanuela, Meggie, Raja, Annie and one more) and I am not sure the Romanian groups like that too much since I see their numbers falling from visit to visit. But maybe I am wrong and unlucky. Which is ashame if the market is not big enough for more than a few top girls at the club. NRW just have too many clubs needing to share the same spending power. But at times Oceans can be rocking. But it feels a bit too random sometimes.
Hank Moody 69
05-02-18, 09:48
I had a busy weekend (Oase on Sat, Samya on Sun) and wanted to erase my experience at Girls-Wohngemeinschaft on Mon, so I was thinking either Magnum or Oceans. Thanks to the reports, I convinced myself to try Oceans. At the very least I could get a good 60 EUR steak and spend some time in the sauna. It turned out to be low-key thanks to the holiday. There were 25+ girls and they were hungry because there were not too many punters.
On arrival it seemed dead, so I headed straight to the restaurant and got my steak. I was pleased with it. I watched girls walking back and forth the whole time I ate and 1 or 2 caught my eye. When I decided to start walking around, one of the girls (Daphne, blonde Romanian) pulls me close and asks me to session with her. She was one of the two I liked from a distance. I asked for a tour and she showed me around. We sat and talked while I drank a coffee. She was the best looking girl overall, so I negotiated up front (50 per 30 min, 30 for DATY, extend 30 min at a time) and went for it. She chose room 9, which I now understand is better because of the mirrors. I gave her a short massage and checked out that tiny ass. I started touching her pussy when she started the CBJ and she asked if I wanted to lick it. I couldn't say no, so we switched to 69. Her timing on the upsell and position changes was perfect. In any case, this 80 EUR session would have been enough to say I had a good time at Oceans.
After alternating sauna and Dampfbad a few times I encountered Amy. She said she's from Hamburg, but clearly looks Asian. I didn't press. She has tattoos down her right leg. It is a 'story of my family' and a rose on her knee. I had been enjoying the optics and thought it's worth exploring in case I decide to do another session later.
I sat on the couches for quite a while. Many different girls approached me. I remember Belle (Italian from Milan) was pretty nice. I also liked the two Romanian girls hanging out with Daphne. I would put them #3 and #4 on my list for this night. They cranked the music up just before 9 pm. Eventually I decided it was time to session with Amy. I gave her a smile as I walked by and then sat down. She joined me moments later. We negotiated (50 per 30 min, extend 30 min at a time, 30 for a collection of extras: kissing, DATY, fingering). As it turns out, I didn't need the extras and didn't pay for them. She told me she tried to get room 9 'because it's the best,' but it was busy. She wanted me to use oil for the massage, which is definitely more sensual if a bit messy. I spent more time massaging her, thinking I'd likely extend and enjoying her soft moans. A short CBJ later and I was ready. She laid down on me (full contact) and we had a sensual mostly-GFE experience. Either she enjoyed herself or she fooled me. Either way I went home happy. We went slightly over 30 min, but she didn't charge me more. We rushed to clean up and get out. I paid 60 EUR since it was quite good for a basic session.
More sauna, Dampfbad, chatting with girls. I tried the Salztempel and it aggravated whatever bronchitis I have from too many late nights partying. It's a neat room, though.
Just wanted to get an idea which clubs you liked.
I haven't been to Oceans in a while, definitely one of my least favorite clubs.At the moment, The Living Room is my favorite club. From what I read from the two recent posts, I feel even stronger that LR is an excellent option. I can't believe that bears are paying extras for kissing and DATY. I understand that LR currently is not serving alcohol, but I'm in the clubs for sex, not drinking alcohol. If I want a drink, I will go to Kiev to the Whisky Corner and sip on a rare whisky for €100 per dram. In my opinion that is a better value for money than an €80 30 minute session.
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