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RempNobbes
10-23-14, 19:12
A new club on Germanies FKK heaven. www.fkk-oceans.de . Direct on DUS international airport. Same style like Artemis Berlin. 200 girls should be there. Opening party soon. I will give you updates after the grand opening. Cheers RM.

Free Dude
10-23-14, 19:48
200 girls, I'll believe it when I see it.

So people have been talking about this club for months now and it seems that the owner of Freude (and later Freude Herne, but not anymore) has something to do with it (which has led to a whole soap surrounding the two Bochum locations as well). The big name that is attached to it is Bert Wollersheim (or something like that), who is supposedly a well known face in the brothel business in Germany.

So the current situation is that it might open any day now, some people are mentioning tomorrow, but since there has been no advertising and no date on the website this seems unlikely. The initial plan was for a bigger club with a big garden (with a pool) and a big opening with some real white lions. The latest news is that there were no permits for the garden and the lions, so they are out. They are promising 200 girls, but only have 28 rooms (according to some sources only 18). So yeah, not likely if they want to make money. In general it seems the focus is more on champagne buying business men in Dusseldorf, than the regular club goers that spend money on the girls. We'll see what happens!

Varenne
10-23-14, 21:36
So the current situation is that it might open any day now, some people are mentioning tomorrow, but since there has been no advertising and no date on the website this seems unlikely.Not opened yet, but on the website they already limited the opening times from the previous 11-07 to 11-05.

RempNobbes
10-23-14, 22:23
Not opened yet, but on the website they already limited the opening times from the previous 11-07 to 11-05.Yes. I saw that. It looked like they wanted to copy the opening times from FKK magnum. But that model is not successful. Like we see there.

Jymondor
10-24-14, 04:34
Bed-and-Breakfast Dusseldorf Airport is on short walking distance. Location is the best I can imagine.

Banana Boi
10-24-14, 07:38
A couple of girls at different clubs I spoke with last week said they plan on checking out Oceans when it opens.

Diet Coke
10-24-14, 13:58
Bed-and-Breakfast Dusseldorf Airport is on short walking distance. Location is the best I can imagine.Did you mean?

B&B Hotel Düsseldorf-Airport.

Theodorstrae 285.

40472 Düsseldorf.

Paco69
10-24-14, 15:05
Not official but the Netherlands forum called the owner and he told that the opening day is now the 31st of October!

For me pure amateurs and fake gossip talk white tigers, 200 girls, etc.

Same owner of Herne Freude39 Club. That club is right now closed.

Oceans prices 55 Euros for wellness and non alcohol drinks + extra euros for massage, alcohol, food! Sounds to me that's a trap for tourists.

Ceshen
10-24-14, 16:31
A new club on Germanies FKK heaven. www.fkk-oceans.de . Direct on DUS international airport. Same style like Artemis Berlin. 200 girls should be there. Opening party soon. I will give you updates after the grand opening. Cheers RM.I can't buy in 200 girls number. Let's see.

NikCool10
10-25-14, 00:25
I can't get to the FKK Ocean Dusseldorf thread, not even with Google.Hi Rohan,

Any luck with getting there? Has the club opened already, there is not much details on the website though. Let me know if you'v managed to get there and share your experience.

Cheers!

PussyLiccker
10-25-14, 02:21
200+ girls? Is the same mangement as Magnum? They advertise 100+ girls there everyday. LOL. The girls pictured so far don't look that impressive. Sillies. They could have gotten better looking models atleast.

Jymondor
10-25-14, 05:43
Did you mean?

Be&be Hotel thesseldorf-Airport.

Theodorstrae 285.

40472 thesseldorf.Yep. Map says 240 meters of walking.

Citizen Kane
10-25-14, 10:53
Yep. Map says 240 meters of walking.240 metres!

Get a taxi.

Rohan Cid
10-25-14, 16:16
Hi Rohan,

Any luck with getting there? Has the club opened already, there is not much details on the website though. Let me know if you'v managed to get there and share your experience.

Cheers!I live in SoCal on a very limited budget and have never been to Germany.

RempNobbes
10-26-14, 11:56
No news so far from the general manager. Right know they are focusing on a opening party at Halloween weekend Friday or Saturday. I kept you updated. Cheers RM.

Hessen Bub
10-26-14, 19:05
200 girls? What a laugh. There's too many clubs in NRW, so why should this club manage to have a decent line up with good looking girls providing great service right from the start? Never happened. And will not happen here.

I don't get it. Why are guys so excited about new clubs? There will be no different girls, not more money in the game from the guy's side, so why a new club?

HB.

Jymondor
10-26-14, 21:44
Why are guys so excited about new clubs? Because they forgot how much noise were around Magnum opening. I don't believe that lineup there will be any better than in Magnum. BTW Magnum holds firm position in my "do-not-revisit" list.

Warthog2837
10-28-14, 12:39
Planning to be in Dusseldorf next month. Does anyone know if Oceans is open yet. A partial website says "opening in late September".

Free Dude
10-28-14, 15:02
Planning to be in Dusseldorf next month. Does anyone know if Oceans is open yet. A partial website says "opening in late September".Last I heard the planning is to open 31 October.

Varenne
10-29-14, 21:58
Last I heard the planning is to open 31 October.It's now on website: 5 November from 21:00.

Free Dude
11-03-14, 22:53
If you look at the website it looks liker there will be no food included in the 55 price tag. 200 girls for 18 (or 23) rooms and food extra at a price of 55. They surely don't seem interested in attracting regular visitors.

NicMan
11-04-14, 06:47
The website shows there are 23 rooms. 26 girls name are listed. Anyone has an idea of the price structure (30 min /60 min)?

Until the end of this year, the entry fee is 55 Eur for men, and free for women. It will attract some working girls around Dusseldorf area.

Jymondor
11-04-14, 15:18
They surely don't seem interested in attracting regular visitors.This is the nearest club to the Airport. What regular customers you are talking about? This must be typical bait&switch place for the occasional travelers.

Free Dude
11-04-14, 17:19
This is the nearest club to the Airport. What regular customers you are talking about? This must be typical bait&switch place for the occasional travelers.Panthera is also very close to the airport and is full of regular visitors. There are plenty of regulars in Magnum, Aca, LR, DV as well. I'm just saying Oceans doesn't seem to be interested in getting any of these to switch. They are looking for tourists, sort of like how Mauro fucked up Oase into a second rate club that most (former) regulars aren't interested in anymore. Except fro Syzygies that is.

StarletVoyager
11-05-14, 06:31
14 hours left till the brave punters take that first dip into the ocean. Just imagine if oceans got it totally right this time amazing girls with great club hardware!!just imagine.

Varenne
11-05-14, 12:02
At least on opening evening, elegant visitors can stay in civies (robe and towels are available on request). Let's hope that at least the girls will honour the FKK designation.

Simex
11-06-14, 23:24
Many guests and over 400 (guys, press, celebrities, friends) and lots of girls probably not the 200 quoted (YET) but it was the grand opening and very hard to gauge the.
Real atmosphere until another 2/3 weeks once all the DIY finished. The garden still bare with odd palm trees and wobbly paving slabs and loose cables everywhere.

55 euro entry (free yesterday) for men and 1 week free to the girls (source from GT girls) The rooms are very grand and plush (similar or better than Palace).
30 minutes 50 and 60 = 100. Recognized many girls from GT; Acup; LV, DV, Bochum and smaller clubs around NRW. This "could" be the next Artemis / Palace
in the NRW region in terms of luxury and.

Quality. Only time will tell it doesn't do a Magnum.


At least on opening evening, elegant visitors can stay in civies (robe and towels are available on request). Let's hope that at least the girls will honour the FKK designation.

Simex
11-06-14, 23:32
Magnum on Sunday to Wednesday you will find many decent girls, they all go to other clubs on Thursday to Saturday.

Because Magnum attracts the gangster and drug dealers over weekends who only want to drink and smoke and not go into rooms.


Because they forgot how much noise were around Magnum opening. I don't believe that lineup there will be any better than in Magnum. BTW Magnum holds firm position in my "do-not-revisit" list.

FiddyCent
11-07-14, 01:55
Many guests and over 400 (guys, press, celebrities, friends) and lots of girls probably not the 200 quoted (YET) but it was the grand opening and very hard to gauge the.
Real atmosphere until another 2/3 weeks once all the DIY finished. The garden still bare with odd palm trees and wobbly paving slabs and loose cables everywhere.

55 euro entry (free yesterday) for men and 1 week free to the girls (source from GT girls) The rooms are very grand and plush (similar or better than Palace).
30 minutes 50 and 60 = 100. Recognized many girls from GT; Acup; LV, DV, Bochum and smaller clubs around NRW. This "could" be the next Artemis / Palace
in the NRW region in terms of luxury and.

Quality. Only time will tell it doesn't do a Magnum.I did not make it to opening day, as Simex had indicated in his report. I knew it would be a zoo, so I made it there on Day #2. I will try and be as unbiased as possible. I have nothing to gain from this. I must also preface my report by saying that it is my first time in NRW, so I have very little to compare it against.

The Positives:

1) Everything, brand spanking new! The towels and the robes are very plush and comfortable. The rooms are excellent! Spacious and well furnished.

2) Nice layout for the club with a center stage for strip shows and pole dancers. Action started after 21:00 h.

3) Plenty of comfortable sofas and chairs.

4) No indoor smoking. (That is a personal plus for me, but I did say I would try and be unbiased.).

5) Easy to get to by public transportation and about a 15 minute walk. Sufficient parking for cars.

6) Full service bar, with free soft drinks, served by the bottle. Beers are about 5 Euros. Tall drinks are a bit more.

7) Caters to an upscale crowd with VIP treatment, sparklers on the vodka bottles, etc.

8) The soft sell approach of the ladies. This could be the result of the girls not having to pay for entry this week. Only time will tell, since they were not getting much action.

The Negatives:

1) The main area is quite dark to create the club atmosphere. Initially, the lights and the two mirror balls created this dance club atmosphere that I did not like. You cannot really see the girls.

2) There were not 200 girls. I bet you cannot fit 200 girls in that club comfortably, especially when the girls take up a lot of sofa space. (Not the slimmest group, but not too bad a lineup, later in the evening).

3) No free buffet. Food is an added cost from about 10 Euros to 30 Euros per entree. Although my "Mermaid" salad was tasty, I had to pick out a few fish bones from the grilled fillet. I waited 5 minutes before I was even greeted. Then the kitchen staff forgot my order and the waiter blamed the chef. This could use some fine tuning. The girl next to me ordered grilled pork, but got an undercooked steak instead. It could have used another few minutes on the grill.

4) The girls were wearing too much clothing. Although it helped some girls, overall this is supposed to be a FKK. One girl told me that the dress code up to 19:00 h is FKK, then evening gowns and lingerie at night. I got there before 19:00 h. None of the girls were naked.

5) Not the best looking lineup. I interviewed about 10 girls or so. They came from all different clubs around the area. Notably, Samya, PHG, Bochum and GT. If you are looking for slim, forget it. Maybe 10% of the girls would fall into that category, but that 10% was nice.

6) The dry sauna was too cold. The other steam saunas still smelled like the caulk had not yet cured. Should improve over time and some fine tuning.

7) Kino action was non-existent. They did not even have porn playing for a long time. I checked 3 times.

8) No bed sheets. You, and the girls had to lay down your own towels over the bed. Come on, really!

9) The club still needs some finishing touches. I complained about the lack of towel and robe hooks outside the shower stalls. They ensured me that would be addressed in the coming weeks. Places were TVs should be are just walls with exposed wires. Simex mentioned this.

Neutral:

The no key or chip system for your safe and locker. There are keypads on each of those doors that guard your valuables. You punch in a 4 digit code and lock your door behind you. People can see your code, and this has the potential of somebody stealing your code and opening up your safe. With a key, you know you have it in your possession at all times. You are given a wristband with a hand written number that matches your locker number. They would have been better off by using a chip lock and payment system for drinks and food purchases instead of everything being manual. There could be a potential for discrepancy.

This club certainly gives people an alternative choice. The club is close to the Dusseldorf airport, so I am sure it will attract the tourist crowd. I am just not sure if the market can support it based on the attendance alone. The top girls are not going to leave their clubs to come here. The average person is not going to want to spend more for the frills, especially when you just come for the talent.

FiddyCent.

PussyLiccker
11-07-14, 02:29
I don't see anything positive about this club opening. It's probably sucking the life out of other clubs. I don't like the arrival of Hessen prices. The area doesn't need any more clubs. There are too many clubs as it is.

If it keeps the number of girls high, that would work for me. There are too many small clubs at the NRW to move around, I wish it was fewer clubs with bigger number of girls like Hessen.

PussyLiccker
11-07-14, 02:43
Magnum on Sunday to Wednesday you will find many decent girls, they all go to other clubs on Thursday to Saturday.

Because Magnum attracts the gangster and drug dealers over weekends who only want to drink and smoke and not go into rooms.You may have gotten lucky with some nice girls showing up on your visit before Oceans opeing, but I've been there on those days, and it's pretty dead like others have reported. There are definately more girls there on Friday and Saturday with the thugs. There are tons of men on the weekend and there are enough to keep girls busy regardless of the thug population staying out of the rooms. Even with the high population of men, there are plenty of free girls on weekend nights.

PussyLiccker
11-07-14, 03:03
For those that has been to Oceans recently and have attended other clubs in the region. What percentage of girls are not from other clubs? From the ones not from other girls, are there some outstanding ones? Fiddy don't seem to be too thrilled of the line-up even with the massive number. Have you guys run into some stunners? Also, how does the girls compared to Hessen?

Banana Boi
11-07-14, 03:32
If you are looking for slim, forget it. Maybe 10% of the girls would fall into that category, but that 10% was nice.So if there were even 100 girls you saw 10 nice ones. That's not too bad I guess. Not many clubs I can walk in to and see more than 10 nice girls.

Simex
11-08-14, 00:28
There were over 100 "girls" but many were fully dressed with their boyfriends or part of the press.

The actual working girls on the opening day were less busy in the rooms and busy trying to work out who were punters and who were press and guys with their girlsfriends / partners.


So if there were even 100 girls you saw 10 nice ones. That's not too bad I guess. Not many clubs I can walk in to and see more than 10 nice girls.

Simex
11-08-14, 00:36
Personally, I find this Club a larger and luxury version of DV.

It does have the Palace feel and touch with the VIP Champagne bars and dedicated table service.

I doubt it will have the sharks factor given there are lots of good quality / service oriented clubs in close proximity.

Free entry for GIRLS until Dec 2014 and €100 per hour will attract lots of girls to this club.




This club certainly gives people an alternative choice. The club is close to the Dusseldorf airport, so I am sure it will attract the tourist crowd. I am just not sure if the market can support it based on the attendance alone. The top girls are not going to leave their clubs to come here. The average person is not going to want to spend more for the frills, especially when you just come for the talent.

FiddyCent.

Finnish Fucker
11-08-14, 01:05
It does have the Palace feel and touch with the VIP Champagne bars and dedicated table service.
A bottle of Bollinger with some lovely ladies does not sound so bad, does it?

Dutch44
11-08-14, 08:39
May I ask, what is the pricing at Oceans?

- For the entry.

- The room for 30 minutes.

- Room extension to 1 hour.

- For food & drinks?

Dufey
11-08-14, 09:16
May I ask, what is the pricing at Oceans?

- For the entry.

- The room for 30 minutes.

- Room extension to 1 hour.

- For food & drinks?Entry is 55 euro so cheaper than Livibg Room and Golden Time by 5 euro.

The first half hour room is 50 euro.

Extension of the room for a further half hour is 50 euro extra.

Soft drinks are included in entry.

Alcoholic drinks are extra cost.

food dishes are extra and are between 10 to 30 euro depending on the item.

Citizen Kane
11-08-14, 10:43
I don't see the extra payment for food working out for them. Just ask Mauro at Oase...

PussyLiccker
11-08-14, 15:52
I don't see the extra payment for food working out for them. Just ask Mauro at Oase...I got a feeling this place may turn out into another Magnum. The thing is Magnum has a better hour rate and the food is top notch(including a decent buffet) that has 20 E of the entry included although Oceans is only 55 entry for now. Curious how much is a decent dish is there. Also, once the publicity dies down, if there will be a decent daytime line-up or night during the week. What would stop the Magnum thugs from making this place their spot also. I'm curious why Magnum is the thug hotspot. Close to Duss is my guess.

Read a post that they want to keep a more diverse line-up with more Germans? Wonder if this is true.

It seems to me another club to lessen number of girls at other clubs. Has the features of a tourist club, and some of the best clubs I've been to at NRW has been out of reach for the typical tourists.

FiddyCent
11-09-14, 23:28
So if there were even 100 girls you saw 10 nice ones. That's not too bad I guess. Not many clubs I can walk in to and see more than 10 nice girls.Hello Banana Boi.

I guess you can say that. I was not disappointed with Oceans. There is something for everybody, but the club just has to work out a few kinks to make it a "must go" destination. I would like to hear how the club fares a year from now.

FiddyCent.

FiddyCent
11-09-14, 23:37
I don't see the extra payment for food working out for them. Just ask Mauro at Oase...Hello Citizen Kane. This is what I spent for entry into both clubs recently.

Oceans: Entry 55 Euros + Salad 15 Euros = 70 Euros.

Oase: Entry with buffet = 70 Euros.

To me, if you are not going there just for food and you take it out of the equation, a visit to Oceans is worth it. If you do, well you will get slightly more at Oase. However, you do lose the luxury of the new club feel of Oceans. If you are in the area, it is my opinion that the club is worth a visit.

FiddyCent.

Simex
11-10-14, 23:38
I can see Oceans being a top top club for the punters who looks for quality over price and likes the luxury feel to a club, especially the rooms.

It's not central Duss but a €15 taxi ride will attract the tourists. Hope it doesn't get too flooded with tourists coupled with "loose" management.

Otherwise you'll find another FKK Palace with lots of sharks.

Hope it goes well for Oceans. But I still have my favourites at Acap, GT and Magnum.


Hello Banana Boi.

I guess you can say that. I was not disappointed with Oceans. There is something for everybody, but the club just has to work out a few kinks to make it a "must go" destination. I would like to hear how the club fares a year from now.

FiddyCent.

FiddyCent
11-11-14, 02:21
I can see Oceans being a top top club for the punters who looks for quality over price and likes the luxury feel to a club, especially the rooms.

It's not central Duss but a 15 taxi ride will attract the tourists. Hope it doesn't get too flooded with tourists coupled with "loose" management.

Otherwise you'll find another FKK Palace with lots of sharks.

Hope it goes well for Oceans. But I still have my favourites at Acap, GT and Magnum.Hello Simex.

The club owner runs another club. Do you know which one that is? If they are serious about going after the tourist's Euros, then they must manage the club well. This trip was my first foray into NRW. I will need to visit the other clubs from that area in order to make a valid comparison. Unfortunately, I had to only a short time in the NRW area and did not get a chance to vist Acapulco, GT, or Magnum. I will take your word for it. If you had to pick a close comparison, which would you choose?

FiddyCent.

Nille Copenhagen
11-11-14, 11:27
Let us give the club a chance, no club is perfect from day 1.

I'm sure Ocean would be good like Artemis in Berlin. The location is easy and convenient, the price is higher, the HW is new.

The girls must find their way to the club first, it's the chicken and egg situation, more nice girls more customers, vice versa.

Varenne
11-11-14, 18:52
At least on opening evening, elegant visitors can stay in civies (robe and towels are available on request). Let's hope that at least the girls will honour the FKK designation.- You can still stay in civies after 22:00 if you wish, but then you must pay an 100€ entry fee instead of the normal 55€ (oh, but if you change your mind you can still get a robe for free!)

- Taxi drivers disappointed by the current lack of hordes of customers begging for a drive, can still console themselves with a specially dedicated offer: entry price is reduced to 40€ on Sundays and Mondays when they exhibit their taxi driver license. The same offer applies to pensioners (they must prove their pensioner status).

- Disabled only pay 40€, and are allowed to undress in the toilet or shower area. Their helpers must pay the full 55€ price. It would be interesting to know which part of the club are suitable for wheelchairs, and which are not.

- Couples only pay 55€ (the website specifies that the payment is asked to the male part). The woman must wear a robe which makes her identifiable as a guest.

- At this moment in time, single women are granted free entry.

BigBuddy69
11-11-14, 19:03
Hello Simex.
The club owner runs another club. Do you know which one that is? .http://www.rethel-online.de/en-us/

I'm sorry but I really hope that Oceans will be a trainwreck and that all the prices around (especially in LR) revert back to normal.

Free Dude
11-11-14, 20:49
Bert is not the owner of Oceans, he was just their marketing gimmick. Given how the club was plugged in Freude Herne and how Freude girls moved to Oceans in the beginning, it is pretty likely the owner of Oceans is the former owner of the old Freude clubs. Especially now that Herne has become Salome again and tht "old Freude" is back but (seemingly) under new management.

Willi69
11-11-14, 21:12
It would be interesting to know which part of the club are suitable for wheelchairs, and which are not.All areas are at ground level: reception, locker room, bar, restaurant, wellness area, showers, toilets, garden and a part of rooms. There are no steps on the ground floor. On the first and second floor there are more rooms.


http://www.rethel-online.de/en-us/That's wrong. These clubs belonged to Bert Wollersheim who ist not the owner of Oceans. That are Turkish people who controlled (or control?) before Freude 39 in Bochum and Salome in Herne. Bert is only the figurehead of Oceans.

The Cane
11-11-14, 21:23
Bert is not the owner of Oceans, he was just their marketing gimmick. Given how the club was plugged in Freude Herne and how Freude girls moved to Oceans in the beginning, it is pretty likely the owner of Oceans is the former owner of the old Freude clubs. Especially now that Herne has become Salome again and that "old Freude" is back but (seemingly) under new management.Do you mean like Freude 39? If so, then I hope that the "old" allegations of racial discrimination that hung over that place do not place a shadow over FKK Oceans too! I never went to Freude 39 as it just did not get good reviews from most and seemed to be even a bit dirty, let alone the charges of a racist door policy. Let's hope that FKK Oceans will be a club welcoming to all clientele in good standing within the mongering community.

Varenne
11-11-14, 22:21
http://www.rethel-online.de/en-us/The brothels on the Rethelstraße are closed, the operators on trial for stealing money from credit cards of customer knocked out with drugs in their drinks. Anyway, they were no more related to Wollersheim.

Source: http://www.rp-online.de/nrw/staedte/duesseldorf/bordelle-an-der-rethelstrasse-sind-dicht-aid-1.4588785.

Wanking
11-12-14, 00:18
http://youtu.be/syioKr-mT8o

No whirlpool there?? Doesn't show one in the video or website http://www.fkk-oceans.de/.

The owner looks like a plastic version of Rod Stewart.

Citizen Kane
11-12-14, 00:27
The owner looks like a plastic version of Rod Stewart.There's a healthy dose of Liberace in there as well...

PussyLiccker
11-12-14, 03:40
Bert is not the owner of Oceans, he was just their marketing gimmick. Given how the club was plugged in Freude Herne and how Freude girls moved to Oceans in the beginning, it is pretty likely the owner of Oceans is the former owner of the old Freude clubs. Especially now that Herne has become Salome again and tht "old Freude" is back but (seemingly) under new management.


That's wrong. These clubs belonged to Bert Wollersheim who ist not the owner of Oceans. That are Turkish people who controlled (or control?) before Freude 39 in Bochum and Salome in Herne. Bert is only the figurehead of Oceans.


The brothels on the Rethelstrae are closed, the operators on trial for stealing money from credit cards of customer knocked out with drugs in their drinks. Anyway, they were no more related to Wollersheim.

Source: http://www.rp-online.de/nrw/staedte/duesseldorf/bordelle-an-der-rethelstrasse-sind-dicht-aid-1.4588785.I'm confused now. So Bert is not the owner, but he used to own the clubs that closed down and got busted for doping drinks, but Bert was not involved in it? And F39 was formerly owned by Turkish group who currently own Oceans? Or the other way around?

Is Magnum owned by Turkish too? I thought it got merged with Harem which was Turkish owned and German owned club. So it has two ownerships. So the girls coming are coming from ACA, Magnum, and old F39? So the girls coming to Oceans are sourced to Turkish managers?

Willi69
11-12-14, 12:56
Let's hope that FKK Oceans will be a club welcoming to all clientele in good standing within the mongering community.At least at this moment, all people are welcome if they can pay the entry fee.

Willi69
11-12-14, 13:05
No whirlpool there?No whirlpool, no swimming pool. They had built a swimming pool in the garden, without permission, and had to fill it.

They have a Finnish sauna, a steam sauna, a Haman and a salt cave.

Willi69
11-12-14, 13:28
So Bert is not the owner, but he used to own the clubs that closed down and got busted for doping drinks.Yes, so it is.


but Bert was not involved in it?None of the allegations has been proven in court. Most of the defendants are free again.


And F39 was formerly owned by Turkish group who currently own Oceans?That's really sophisticated. Originally Freude 39 and Salome belonged to a person called "Der Blinde" ("the blind man" he had to leave the clubs under threat of violence. On ownership was decided later in court.


Is Magnum owned by Turkish too? I thought it got merged with Harem which was Turkish owned and German owned club.Harem in Dormagen is closed since several months. It shall be a Noble-Magnum II. Magnum belongs to German people. The same who control Planet Happy Garden.

Willi69
11-12-14, 13:37
The owner looks like a plastic version of Rod Stewart.But his wife is looking really natural:

http://bilder.bild.de/fotos-skaliert/prosiebenpromiboxen_41116775_mbqf-1411926860-37935340/3,w=559,c=0.bild.jpg%3C/div%3E

Nille Copenhagen
11-13-14, 11:04
But his wife is looking really natural:

http://bilder.bild.de/fotos-skaliert/prosiebenpromiboxen_41116775_mbqf-1411926860-37935340/3,w=559,c=0.bild.jpg%3C/div%3EShe is his right hand! LOL a silicone blond to run the business for Berti, Cute! LOL.

How about the helicopter and the yacht, anyone has seen them?

Dep777
11-15-14, 16:52
Yacht and Helicopter have been shipped to unknown destination. They were not aloud by the goverment. No permit.

Dep777
11-15-14, 16:55
I do hope FKK Oceans will update the (25) photos of the ladies on there site soon. Its a big plus if clubs do this.

The other photos of the club on their site look great.

Horny Harry
11-16-14, 15:31
http://www.rethel-online.de/en-us/

I'm sorry but I really hope that Oceans will be a trainwreck and that all the prices around (especially in LR) revert back to normal.I agree with you 100 percent, additionally I think that this will only fragment the girls even more. Some clubs will see some of their good looking girls leave for Oceans, yet somehow I seriously doubt that they can fill the whole place with "200" beautiful women.

In the end of the day most of us are only willing to pay a relatively high entry price for basically 2 things;.

1) a club with a large variety of good looking women, and.

2) a decent venue serving decent food where you can comfortably spend en entire afternoon or evening.

The last thing most of us want to do is for example to pay 70 E at GT, find out there are only a handful of nice women there, then drive to Duesseldorf and pay 55 E (plus 5 E for a beer, plus pay for food or a salad, plus this, plus that...) only to discover that there are only a handful of beautiful girls there as well.

So far I'm not that impressed with the website. It appears to be hastily done, showing pictures of what looks like a construction site with cables running around everywhere and power tools laying around. And then there's this confusing pricing 'strategy. ' Let's see, we have a "temporary" 55 E entry fee, 100 E if you want to stay dressed but only after 8 pm, 40 E if you are a taxi driver but only on SUN and MON, 40 E if retired or handicapped, extra for food etcetera. WTF?! It's already bad enough with girls trying to upsell!

Having a place with 200 beautiful women, as the video and some pictures on their website suggests, would be the ONLY reason people would be willing to pay 55E plus food, plus beer, plus this and plus that. If they can't deliver that, then I doubt that they can break even on the enormous investment because it will be a club just like any other club. However, if the place turns out just like the video with spectacular ladies and a nice atmosphere, then I guess I would be willing to put up with the pricing bullshit.

The investment for a place like this must be huge, and I seriously doubt that this thing will take off in the present economic climate. It's a deflationary "buyer's market" and almost all clubs I've visited in the last 6 months have been MUCH quieter than usual, something which is confirmed by many girls and people on this forum. Very good looking girls who provide great service can maybe get away with charging a little bit extra (they probably get that anyway in the form of a tip if their customer is a gentleman), but I seriously doubt if the same can apply across the board for an entire club for all women, or even the entire industry.

Unfortunately, in it's death spasms and race to the bottom, the place will probably drag down a lot of other clubs with it. Let's wait and see what happens and how Oceans develops...

P.S. Why is this thread located all the way at the bottom under "user blog," and not in the list with all the other FKK clubs?

Breadman
11-16-14, 20:01
http://www.rethel-online.de/en-us/

... that all the prices around (especially in LR) revert back to normal.What are the odd's of this happening? Slim to none is my guess, once you give them more money they won't want to give any of that back.

McAdonis
11-17-14, 21:42
The place was completely dead. Just about every girl had a bored, disappointed look on their face. I spoke with at least 10-15 girls--not because I was interested in sessioning, but more because of the whole "which club do I know you from" game. I recognized about five of the girls from other clubs. A couple of others claimed to have recognized me. Not a single girl that I spoke to was new to the business or even new to the German FKK scene. PHG, Villa Vertigo, DV, Magnum, GT, Acapulco were the responses that I got. Quite a few were veterans of 2-3 clubs prior to coming to Oceans. Every girl I spoke to was Romanian--although two girls tried to lie about it. I am sure some of you guys who do epic seven day trips and multiple clubs a day would easily recognize at least 80% of the girls.

Most seemed to only have been there between 3-5 days. One girl said she had been there since the grand opening, and she claimed that the numbers had been steadily decreasing since then. A few reported that Saturday night was just as quiet. Most of the girls admitted they were ready to go back to their home club. This despite the club owners waiving the entry fee and overnight sleeping fee.

As Hessen Bub predicted, there really isn't a market for another club in NRW, especially with attendance being down at every single club in Germany. I heard rumors that they spent 10 million EUR on Oceans, but I wouldn't be surprised if the price tag was much higher. Either way it is a huge upfront investment, so I doubt they will recover that any time soon or if ever. It probably will cost a fortune just to keep the place heated over the winter. This place looks more like a VIP bottle service super club, where you would expect to see celebrities. Most of you will probably insist on going to see the train wreck yourself just as I did, LOL. If Oceans wants to have a fighting to chance to survive, the club owners will have to start getting creative. Whether it be reducing entry, introducing happy hour pricing, inclusive food, bribing taxing drivers, offering incentives to recruit and retain top girls, etc. Oceans just has too much competition and not enough customers.

One easy thing they could probably fix is the lighting. As FiddyCent reported, you can't really see the girls. You'd have to be about a couch lengths away to see the girl. This makes it difficult to scan the floor if you are waiting / hunting for a particular girl. I can't count how many times I got excited because I thought a new girl arrived, only to realize that it was the same girl who I'd just seen walk by at least ten times. In the end I sessioned with only one girl. 175 cm, dark black / brown hair, model-thin waif body, fake be-cups. I had turned her down at GT before a few months ago. She told me her new alias and the one she used at GT, but I can't remember either. Think Carolina or Christina was one of them.

Citizen Kane
11-17-14, 22:00
I know this is going to sound like a stupid question but I've RTFF and I can't see an answer; I know it's called FKK Oceans but is it actually an FKK club? No one seems to have mentioned it but FKK is pretty rare in NRW so if it was I would have thought someone would have commented.

I'm bracing myself for 'stupid boy, Pike' comments...

McAdonis
11-17-14, 22:06
I know this is going to sound like a stupid question but I've RTFF and I can't see an answer; I know it's called FKK Oceans but is it actually an FKK club? No one seems to have mentioned it but FKK is pretty rare in NRW so if it was I would have thought someone would have commented.

I'm bracing myself for 'stupid boy, Pike' comments...Girls wear clothes like rest of NRW.

Citizen Kane
11-17-14, 22:23
Girls wear clothes like rest of NRW.Thanks for the response McAdonis.

I believe Babylon in Elsdorf is FKK (but it's called a sauna club) and Haus Panthera is Thu-Sat. My thinking was the only thing this club had to stand out from the crowd was that it was FKK. Turns out the only thing that makes it stand out is the fact that you have to pay extra for food. Good luck with that business plan...

Free Dude
11-17-14, 23:24
Thanks for the response McAdonis.

I believe Babylon in Elsdorf is FKK (but it's called a sauna club) and Haus Panthera is Thu-Sat. My thinking was the only thing this club had to stand out from the crowd was that it was FKK. Turns out the only thing that makes it stand out is the fact that you have to pay extra for food. Good luck with that business plan...Those are, just like many in the Ruhrgebiet: Freude (seemingly turning AO after all), Grimberg, Villa Venus, Arabella, Romantica, Verena, Annabela, Luder Lounge. Also Bernds. Heaven 7 is FKK on Monday and Wednesday.

Banana Boi
11-17-14, 23:26
Thanks for the update, McAdonis. Not sounding too promising here. Since you have a bit of idea what my taste is, are there girls here I would like?


I am sure some of you guys who do epic seven day trips and multiple clubs a day would easily recognize at least 80% of the girls.This is why I'm curious about Oceans. To see who I know there. I enjoy bumping in to girls at different clubs. The one you've never been with always seem friendlier since you're a familiar face and you always get an amazing greeting from the the ones you've been with.

McAdonis
11-18-14, 01:31
Thanks for the update, McAdonis. Not sounding too promising here. Since you have a bit of idea what my taste is, are there girls here I would like?

This is why I'm curious about Oceans. To see who I know there. I enjoy bumping in to girls at different clubs. The one you've never been with always seem friendlier since you're a familiar face and you always get an amazing greeting from the the ones you've been with.As a few others have stated, we have to think about the types of girls that a place like Oceans might attract.

If a girl is a top act at a certain club with built-up clientele, can she be confident that those regulars would follow her to her new club? Some understandably just want to test the waters, and see if the grass is really greener on the other side. But for the most part, I don't think girls or their pimps would take the risk if they've previously invested themselves at another club. Depending on how far the new club is from their old club, the girl would have to start from scratch and build up her reputation again. Though I don't know their names, some of the girls at Oceans have been around for years. I suspect they were probably making big money several years ago, now they are just washed-up and chasing money that isn't really there anymore.

But as you said, some of these girls might be happy to bump into you at Oceans. When business is slow, the girls may suddenly be more customer-oriented to the guys with as you put it, "familiar faces". On the other hand, you may also find that girls are more moody because they aren't making any money. Longer term outlook, I suspect the club will have to take drastic measures to attract customers. Maybe they will offer some promotions in the coming months.

Nille Copenhagen
11-18-14, 12:42
But as you said, some of these girls might be happy to bump into you at Oceans. When business is slow, the girls may suddenly be more customer-oriented to the guys with as you put it, "familiar faces". On the other hand, you may also find that girls are more moody because they aren't making any money. Longer term outlook, I suspect the club will have to take drastic measures to attract customers. Maybe they will offer some promotions in the coming months.Well I'm not sure how I would react, if I slept with a girl at Oceans, I knew from other clubs.

Now the price is 100€/ h and previously I was with her for 75-80€/ h.

For sure I'll not take 3+ hours with her at Oceans. LOL.

PayForIt
11-18-14, 21:53
The place was completely dead. Just about every girl had a bored, disappointed look on their face. I spoke with at least 10-15 girls--not because I was interested in sessioning, but more because of the whole "which club do I know you from" game.

As Hessen Bub predicted, there really isn't a market for another club in NRW, especially with attendance being down at every single club in Germany.Off to Dusseldorf for one night only (there's a song there somewhere? Next Wednesday. Have been advised to go to either LR or ACA. I don't like small clubs so maybe LR not great (Bananabol suggested ACA better) though LR is much closer. Have been on the Oceans website and I like the look of the club but the report from McAdonis turned me cold. I don't want to be in Oceans for a short time thinking I wish I'd respected his report more and then getting expensive cabs to LR or ACA. Just wondered if anyone else who has been to Oceans thinks it might just be picking up? If not, I'll stick with the advice generously given already.

Jymondor
11-18-14, 22:08
Have been advised to go to either LR or ACA. Haus Panthera can be an option as well. Very close to airport. Good MILF club with decent service.

BigBuddy69
11-18-14, 22:37
LR is not so small. To say it better: the building may be small but there are lots of sexy ladies (too bad for the damned price change).

Panthera is a club I like but there are less women than in LR and in average, less good looking. Wednesday is probably not a good day for a first visit in Panthera.

Magnum is large (if you like female sharks) and easy to reach by public transportation.

ACA is large too but it takes a longer time to reach.

Simex
11-18-14, 23:58
Totally agree with the reports by McAdonis. The region completely saturated and Germany going into recession this month.

Who's going to pay 55 with no drinks and food. All the girls I saw were tired looking types from the main 5/6 clubs in NRW.

Butler Service oriented club attracting the dumb-down fly-by tourists, who'll be happy with a 20 minutes covered BJ for €100.

I am soooooo pissed OCEANS fucked up the great pricing model of the NRW clubs (esp GT).

You'll see me more at Samya & ACA nowadays. I hope these clubs sit tight and not change their pricing model.


The place was completely dead. Just about every girl had a bored, disappointed look on their face. I spoke with at least 10-15 girls--not because I was interested in sessioning, but more because of the whole "which club do I know you from" game. I recognized about five of the girls from other clubs. A couple of others claimed to have recognized me. Not a single girl that I spoke to was new to the business or even new to the German FKK scene. PHG, Villa Vertigo, DV, Magnum, GT, Acapulco were the responses that I got. Quite a few were veterans of 2-3 clubs prior to coming to Oceans. Every girl I spoke to was Romanian--although two girls tried to lie about it. I am sure some of you guys who do epic seven day trips and multiple clubs a day would easily recognize at least 80% of the girls.

Most seemed to only have been there between 3-5 days. One girl said she had been there since the grand opening, and she claimed that the numbers had been steadily decreasing since then. A few reported that Saturday night was just as quiet. Most of the girls admitted they were ready to go back to their home club. This despite the club owners waiving the entry fee and overnight sleeping fee.

As Hessen Bub predicted, there really isn't a market for another club in NRW, especially with attendance being down at every single club in Germany. I heard rumors that they spent 10 million EUR on Oceans, but I wouldn't be surprised if the price tag was much higher. Either way it is a huge upfront investment, so I doubt they will recover that any time soon or if ever. It probably will cost a fortune just to keep the place heated over the winter. This place looks more like a VIP bottle service super club, where you would expect to see celebrities. Most of you will probably insist on going to see the train wreck yourself just as I did, LOL. If Oceans wants to have a fighting to chance to survive, the club owners will have to start getting creative. Whether it be reducing entry, introducing happy hour pricing, inclusive food, bribing taxing drivers, offering incentives to recruit and retain top girls, etc. Oceans just has too much competition and not enough customers.

One easy thing they could probably fix is the lighting. As FiddyCent reported, you can't really see the girls. You'd have to be about a couch lengths away to see the girl. This makes it difficult to scan the floor if you are waiting / hunting for a particular girl. I can't count how many times I got excited because I thought a new girl arrived, only to realize that it was the same girl who I'd just seen walk by at least ten times. In the end I sessioned with only one girl. 175 cm, dark black / brown hair, model-thin waif body, fake be-cups. I had turned her down at GT before a few months ago. She told me her new alias and the one she used at GT, but I can't remember either. Think Carolina or Christina was one of them.

PayForIt
11-19-14, 00:50
LR is not so small. To say it better: the building may be small but there are lots of sexy ladies (too bad for the damned price change).

Panthera is a club I like but there are less women than in LR and in average, less good looking. Wednesday is probably not a good day for a first visit in Panthera.

Magnum is large (if you like female sharks) and easy to reach by public transportation.

ACA is large too but it takes a longer time to reach.Just wanted to say a big thanks to all the guys who have offered advice. Particularly as I'm only there for one bloody night! Particularly Finnish Fucker for his detailed PM advice. From all the comments I'll go to LR. Like the sound of the large line up of sexy girls. Shame about the price hike but I only have experience of Artemis 80/60/60/60 and the FR clubs at entry /50/50/50 so missing out on the 25 euro 30 minutes sessions is a shame but not something I've ever been lucky enough to sample. Good job. I'm a sucker for a 2 hour GFE session anyway. I think if I knew it was only 25 for 30 minutes I'd have a girl in there for half the day!

I like the look of ACA from the website but it's too far given I don't get to Dusseldorf until about 6. 30 pm. Noted on Panthera but MILFs not for me. Really disappointed to read the negatives about Oceans as the club looks fantastic on the website to me. But this forum is there for a reason. To inform and educate so that mistakes don't get made and I'm not going to bother people for advice and then ignore it. So LR it is and hope that Oceans maybe gets its act together for my next trip. Just in case anyone from Oceans is reading this forum. Note the comments - 55 in then no food is ridiculous. Comments about 20 min CBJ for €100 make me go cold and the old line up from other clubs and experienced guys saying it is dead are not going to get any of the €10 million investment back. A good idea would be to start by actually offering some real incentives for the best looking WG's to come to the club. This happens all the time in Spain where the club initially go to rival clubs and PAY the stunners to leave with offers of free accommodation and minimum earnings for 1 month. Then make introductory entrance offers e. G. €30 before 8 pm and €40 after. Food free. Free soft drinks and beers. No need for the silly drinks tokens at Oase and Artemis. Better to pay on exit like at Sharks and Manhattan. Finally, introduce a novel element. Themed rooms at Sharks including domination room and Egyptian room. Bar football table and outside 5 a side at Oase. Even better. Piano and show at Scandalo (Malaga). If the prices, facilities and line up are right the punters will come. Currently, from reports on here. Seems to me that the prices and line up are all wrong. For the benefit of everyone in NWR I hope Oceans pays attention and makes some urgent changes. Had the report on here been positive. I'd have been going there next week. Looks like a terrific club but I'll be heading to LR given what I've learned. Thanks again guys. Will report back.

Nille Copenhagen
11-19-14, 10:13
Off to Dusseldorf for one night only (there's a song there somewhere? Next Wednesday. Have been advised to go to either LR or ACA. I don't like small clubs so maybe LR not great (Bananabol suggested ACA better) though LR is much closer. Have been on the Oceans website and I like the look of the club but the report from McAdonis turned me cold. I don't want to be in Oceans for a short time thinking I wish I'd respected his report more and then getting expensive cabs to LR or ACA. Just wondered if anyone else who has been to Oceans thinks it might just be picking up? If not, I'll stick with the advice generously given already.For sure any club on a Wednesday would be slower than in the weekends.

I'm going to Oceans on Saturday, that would probably be the best day for this club.

LR is small but still nice, why do you need a big club? If you are in the room with girls most of the time it makes no different LOL.

DV is bigger than LR you could check it out.

Horny Harry
11-19-14, 11:36
Comments about 20 min CBJ for 100 make me go cold...I missed that, where exactly did you read that?


A good idea would be to start by actually offering some real incentives for the best looking WG's to come to the club. This happens all the time in Spain where the club initially go to rival clubs and PAY the stunners to leave with offers of free accommodation and minimum earnings for 1 month. Then make introductory entrance offers e. G. 30 before 8 pm and 40 after. Food free. Free soft drinks and beers. No need for the silly drinks tokens at Oase and Artemis. Better to pay on exit like at Sharks and Manhattan. Finally, introduce a novel element. Themed rooms at Sharks including domination room and Egyptian room. Bar football table and outside 5 a side at Oase. Even better. Piano and show at Scandalo (Malaga). If the prices, facilities and line up are right the punters will come. Currently, from reports on here. Seems to me that the prices and line up are all wrong. For the benefit of everyone in NWR I hope Oceans pays attention and makes some urgent changes. Had the report on here been positive. I'd have been going there next week. Looks like a terrific club but I'll be heading to LR given what I've learned. Thanks again guys. Will report back.And what will that achieve? Drive all other places out of business, convince the best looking girls to relocate to Oceans so that they can then increase the prices? No thanks. Be careful what you wish for, it might happen.

Let's face it: there's an oversupply of clubs and an undersupply of good looking girls. This will not change by spending 10 million on a new club and then hoping that all the good looking girls from all other NRW / he clubs will magically relocate to Dusseldorf. This is not Dubai where they have very deep pockets to subsidize losses almost indefinitely and use the motto "build it, and they will come / cum. ".


I heard rumors that they spent 10 million EUR on Oceans,Not a rumour, it's mentioned at 00:00:45 in the YT video on their website: "....geöffnet ist das für rund 10 Millionen Euro erbauten Luftschloss... "

Nille Copenhagen
11-19-14, 19:57
I missed that, where exactly did you read that?

And what will that achieve? Drive all other places out of business, convince the best looking girls to relocate to Oceans so that they can then increase the prices? No thanks. Be careful what you wish for, it might happen.

Let's face it: there's an oversupply of clubs and an undersupply of good looking girls. This will not change by spending 10 million on a new club and then hoping that all the good looking girls from all other NRW / he clubs will magically relocate to thesseldorf. This is not Dubai where they have very deep pockets to subsidize losses almost indefinitely and use the motto "build it, and they will come / cum. ".

Not a rumour, it's mentioned at 00:00:45 in the YT video on their website: "....geffnet ist das fr rund 10 Millionen Euro erbauten Luftschloss... "A fairly medium size and nice club called Babylon in Hamburg, has run on lack of girls and customer for some years, I wonder how they can survive. Maybe the have other businesses involved in the shadow? My point is the invested money can come from various unofficial sources and it's difficult to control the earning when we all are pay in cash and we never get a receipt.

Simex
11-20-14, 00:27
€100 for 20 minutes CBJ was a joke. We hope it doesn't turn out to be a Palace from Frankfurt.

I would still recommend Oceans given it's a spanking big club with lush rooms.

Prices are 50 per half hour.

Personally I would give miss LR a miss and do ACA if logistics permit.

Nille Copenhagen
11-20-14, 09:38
Personally I would give miss LR a miss and do ACA if logistics permit.LR is not bad for a short visit, I was at LR few weeks ago on a slow Monday, still many nice girls and very few men, the GFE hitrate for me was 100% with 3 sessions.

Lalabo
11-20-14, 14:31
I was in Zurich the day before, November 15 and visited Globe for the first time. I have to say that I am not ready to jump on the rave review bandwagon yet. Who knows, it may change with my upcoming Globe visits next week. I will post the reviews in Zurich forum thread.

I arrived in Dusseldorf on the evening of 16th November and decided to go to the newest club FKK Oceans as it was very close to the hotel I am staying. I went to the club after 7 pm, paid 55 e entrance. I was given a card worth 100 e that I could spend on food & drinks. One has to pay the actual amount spent before leaving the club. The catch is that if you loose the card then you owe the club 100 e irrespective of whether you spend a penny or not.

FKK Oceans is a nice club with huge main area like FKK Sharks. Clean smoke free environment. Lots of couches to relax. Food was decent. Bar staf was great.

Like other members mentioned this club looked very dull & depressed. Lineup was not great and there were very few men. I had session with only one girl, Ruksana (club name is Kristina or something like that). She is a tall, beautiful, athletic, 23 year old Romanian with big be cups. She is great kisser. I spent 1 HR with her and left the club around 11 pm.

Day-2 Acapulco.

Lalabo
11-20-14, 14:49
Personally I would give miss LR a miss and do ACA if logistics permit.I visited ACA on Monday and was impressed with the lineup and number of girls.

I was in LR on Tuesday. It was a slow day, but there were lot of girls and some are very good looking. There were few girls I saw in Oceans.
I found a little gem in 20 year old Romanian girl Gigi. Other two sessions I had were good too.

Nille Copenhagen
11-20-14, 16:31
I arrived in Dusseldorf on the evening of 16th November and decided to go to the newest club FKK Oceans as it was very close to the hotel I am staying. I went to the club after 7 pm, paid 55 e entrance. I was given a card worth 100 e that I could spend on food & drinks. One has to pay the actual amount spent before leaving the club. The catch is that if you loose the card then you owe the club 100 e irrespective of whether you spend a penny or not.Can you explain the 100€ food / drink card? You have to spend 100€ on food and drink or pay the difference, I don't quite understand?

Do you only get this card if you enter after 7 PM?

Thanks.

I agree, LR is also good on a slow weekday.

Lalabo
11-22-14, 01:04
Can you explain the 100 food / drink card? You have to spend 100 on food and drink or pay the difference, I don't quite understand?The card looks like one of those Restaurant reward cards that gets you free item after you buy 10 or 12 items. This specific card has markings of various currency denominations like 2. 5 e, 5 e, 10 e etc totaling 100 e. I have an amateur approximate rendering of the card below.

- 2. 5 e - 2. 5 e - 2. 5 e - 2. 5 e -.

- 5. 0 e - 5. 0 e - 5. 0 e - 5. 0 e -.

- 10.0 e - 10.0 e - 10.0 e -.

- 10.0 e - 15.0 e - 15.0 e -.

When you order a drink worth 5 e, the bartender would mark two 2. 5 e slots or one 5 e slot. When you order food worth 25 e, waiter / waitress would mark one 15 e slot and 10 e slot and so on. I hope you get the picture. When you leave the club (provided you spent less than or equal to 100 e in the club) you have to settle the account by paying the amount you actually spent. Front desk calculated the amount based on the markings on the card you were given. If you happen to loose or lie about loosing, which is one an the same, you owe the club 100 e. You owe the club 100 e even you don't buy any thing and you happen to loose the card.

You can only buy food and drinks for a max of 100 e (because card does not have slots for more than 100 e) with one card. When you run out of 100 e you may have to pay off 100 e debt you have accrued and get a new card and continue the process.

So, my point is, it is very expensive piece of paper to loose. In the day & age, this club should have had a better process than what they currently have.

I wish I took a picture of the card so that it is easier to attach it and explain.

I hope this helps.

P.S.: Don't get any ideas. Each card is numbered.


Do you only get this card if you enter after 7 PM?Everyone gets it irrespective of what time they visit.

Free Dude
11-22-14, 01:21
This system is very similar to what Magnum uses. So you see many guys that keep it in their locker and only take it out when they want to order something. In Magnum the first 20 E for food is included, but for the rest it works the same way.

Lalabo
11-22-14, 01:32
This system is very similar to what Magnum uses. So you see many guys that keep it in their locker and only take it out when they want to order something. In Magnum the first 20 E for food is included, but for the rest it works the same way.I have been to Magnum once but I don't remember the system exactly the same way as Oceans. It is possible my memory is bit rusty. I don't remember getting a piece of paper to track all of my spending in Magnum. Most of my spending was tracked electronically. At least, you get to pay what you spent with electronic system.

BigBuddy69
11-22-14, 08:11
In August in Magnum it was the same system. I had a card with numbers written and the waitress punched a hole in the number 15 if I ordered a 15 euro meal; etc.

Same thing for the drinks.

Nille Copenhagen
11-22-14, 08:13
Thanks Lalabo for explaining the value card, I will see it myself today when I'm visiting Oceans.

Dufey
11-22-14, 08:49
A fairly medium size and nice club called Babylon in Hamburg, has run on lack of girls and customer for some years, I wonder how they can survive. Maybe the have other businesses involved in the shadow? My point is the invested money can come from various unofficial sources and it's difficult to control the earning when we all are pay in cash and we never get a receipt.I think you are implying like a few of the authorities that these cash driven clubs are maybe money laundering fronts. You can pay a lot of money to set up these clubs in "management fees" and have managers run the place but those managers are never on site. All payments are in cash so you can declare whatever income you want (usually exaggerated) pay the taxed and then hey voila the money that did not actually detive from the club is now in the real world and cleaned.

If you look up the ownership of the clubs you find that the arrangement is a company owns the business and then the company leases or rent premises and hires the staff. Another company is the management company takung a fee for running that asset owning company.

So you get a web of cashflows that turn the cash receipts banked into traced payments to other companies that become more legit as it goes further in the real world economy. Simple.

Varenne
11-22-14, 19:53
Normal entry price in Oceans 55€, but beware that if you arrive by taxi they will rip you 85€ off! Better to instruct the driver to drop you at some distance. Better still, Monday to Tuesday, be a gentleman and convince the driver to park his taxi and join you for a day of fun, the entry is on you (you'll only pay 55€ for both anyway with the current offer).

Hessen Bub
11-23-14, 10:45
I've read this a few times, also about other clubs: Cab drivers dropping off guests at clubs and the club charging more than the official entry. Never happened to me. Why accept it? There is an official price for the entry, it can't vary by means of transportation. If the clubs pays a commission to the cab driver (most clubs do), this goes against their margin, not your admission to the club.

HB.

Free Dude
11-23-14, 12:20
They have it on their website: you pay more if you arrive by taxi. Not that I don't agree it is ridiculous.

Banana Boi
11-23-14, 12:41
30 euro extra to arrive by taxi is ridiculous. If the club really reimburses taxi drivers 30 euro for every ride they bring to the club all taxi drivers will bring anyone from the airport or downtown DUSS to this place. In other words this will eventually become a tourist club and the sharks will congregate here.

If you want to go to Oceans and MUST take a taxi give the taxi driver the address to the bike shop located next door to Oceans.

Eisenherz Bikes‎
Oberhausener Street 15.
40472 Dusseldorf


Monday to Tuesday..... you'll only pay 55 for both anyway with the current offer

Thanks for the tip. Guess I'll be standing near the front door waiting for another single guy to enter.

Jymondor
11-23-14, 13:39
Better to instruct the driver to drop you at some distance.I have even better idea: instruct the drive to drop you at any other club such us LR, Panthera, Aca, etc.

Horny Harry
11-23-14, 13:47
30 euro extra to arrive by taxi is ridiculous. If the club really reimburses taxi drivers 30 euro for every ride they bring to the club all taxi drivers will bring anyone from the airport or downtown DUSS to this place. In other words this will eventually become a tourist club and the sharks will congregate here.

If you want to go to Oceans and MUST take a taxi give the taxi driver the address to the bike shop located next door to Oceans....Hahaha, why oh why am I not surprised? So basically, you as a customer, would have to pay your own commission? As HB correctly stated, a commission should come out of THEIR margin, not YOUR pocket!

What a pity because I have to be in Dusseldorf regularly for business and the club itself looks very nice. Unfortunately it's their short term 'let's make a quick Buck' rip off and tourist trap pricing tactics, and very mediocre line up reports that seems to ruin everything and will keep me from paying the place a visit.

Even IF the line up would dramatically improve (something I seriously doubt, but alas), I hate up-sell places with all kinds of complicated vouchers, value cards, hole punch cards etcetera. The last thing I want is having to worry about losing that hole punch card or having to argue with a large bouncer about the bill.

I'll continue to watch the developments surrounding this place from a nice little distance, hehe.


I have even better idea: instruct the drive to drop you at any other club such us LR, Panthera, Aca, etc.Completely agree!

Simex
11-23-14, 19:08
I hope you are kidding! 85 Entry if a Taxi drops you off. So 30 goes to the taxi driver
If that's the case, the 2000/3000 taxis will be directing Men of all shape and sizes from
Airport Koln; Duss, Duisburg etc to this place. This place will be a complete COCK FEAST
full of tourist.

This reminds me of the dodgy clubs in Barcelona, Charging 60 and giving taxis half
Girls were ripping tourists off at 300 an hour.


Normal entry price in Oceans 55, but beware that if you arrive by taxi they will rip you 85 off! Better to instruct the driver to drop you at some distance. Better still, Monday to Tuesday, be a gentleman and convince the driver to park his taxi and join you for a day of fun, the entry is on you (you'll only pay 55 for both anyway with the current offer).

Voyajer1
11-24-14, 11:26
Here is the quote from their website:

"Supplements:

If arriving by taxi admission Price 85 € is.

The ocean can be accessed after 20:00 clock in elegant solid Apparel.

The entrance fee is then 100,. -. For better identification, you will receive a.

"GUEST" name badge at the front desk. Of course you can.

Take at a later date for free in a bathrobe claim, for use of the spa. ".

Talk about searching for suckers. Are they still in business? This is no way start a "new" business. Am I missing something?

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Sun-Thu 11-05 h and Fri. -Sat 11-07 h Phone: +4921165859866.

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ABSOLUTE DISCRETION! PRIVACY OF guest HAS TOP PRIORITY!

Home.

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Feedback.

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I hope you are kidding! 85 Entry if a Taxi drops you off. So 30 goes to the taxi driver
If that's the case, the 2000/3000 taxis will be directing Men of all shape and sizes from
Airport Koln; Duss, Duisburg etc to this place. This place will be a complete COCK FEAST
full of tourist.

This reminds me of the dodgy clubs in Barcelona, Charging 60 and giving taxis half
Girls were ripping tourists off at 300 an hour.

Citizen Kane
11-24-14, 18:31
Talk about searching for suckers. Are they still in business? This is no way start a "new" business. Am I missing something?Shall we run an ISG sweepstake and how long their business model last for? I reckon February at best.

Trans Atlantic
11-26-14, 04:43
I have been to Magnum once but I don't remember the system exactly the same way as Oceans. It is possible my memory is bit rusty. I don't remember getting a piece of paper to track all of my spending in Magnum. Most of my spending was tracked electronically. At least, you get to pay what you spent with electronic system.Magnum gives you a €50 punch card. You pay above the allowance.


30 euro extra to arrive by taxi is ridiculous. If the club really reimburses taxi drivers 30 euro for every ride they bring to the club all taxi drivers will bring anyone from the airport or downtown DUSS to this place. In other words this will eventually become a tourist club and the sharks will congregate here.

If you want to go to Oceans and MUST take a taxi give the taxi driver the address to the bike shop located next door to Oceans.

Eisenherz Bikes‎
Oberhausener Street 15.
40472 Dusseldorf



Thanks for the tip. Guess I'll be standing near the front door waiting for another single guy to enter.Yeah. Tell the driver I need to pickup my bike at 2330. HAHA.

PussyLiccker
11-26-14, 11:30
Stopped by Tuesday evening. Not the best day to guage the LU, but I notice couple not so popular girls from ACA and Samya. I had one bad session. Not many girls and the place has similar feel to Palace, but without the variey of girls. Supposedly, owner is the same as Artemis.

Not worth visiting IMO.

Breadman
11-26-14, 19:37
If you really want to check out this club and plan on taking a taxi, why not use the be&be right down the street (as a hotel or a fake address). Its not on google maps yet but their website sure gives the impression that there's a hotel there now.

B & B Hotel thesseldorf-Airport.

Theodorstrae 285.

40472 thesseldorf.

http://www.hotelbb.de/de/duesseldorf-airport

Nille Copenhagen
11-28-14, 13:58
I was at Oceans on Saturday.

Very nice club, nice rooms nice spacey lounge and locker room and great food too, the food is only from a la carte 10-25€ menu is available and great service from the waiters and staff.

Even the doorman was really nice.

At first the club was boring but it pick up at after 20:00.

Number of girls during the day was 60-70 and not so many men.

I've tried everything, the Kino, Sauna, Steambad, Saltgrotte, I tried 5 different rooms with 5 diff. Ladies,

2 was from PHG 1 from Samya, There were many German girls. Some where dancing and partying.

They are quite fun.

I had great time all in all, the club is big so it was not crowded, it felt very empty to start with but picked up later.

The great thing is the club is non-smoking!

A bad thing the code locker system is not great, you just go in and choose a locker, it doesn't have to the no. On your armband.

You can have 2 diff. No. For the safe box and other for the clothes. You can pick your own code, so it can be a mess. Many guests could not figure out the system and set many locker alarm on, the staff had to sorted this mess out.

The food was great so I don't mind paying extra for it, unless they increase the entrance fee after New year.

I'm sure the club will pick up more momentum in the future, the club is still new just 3 weeks old.

I'll return for sure, closed to the airport it took me 9 minutes to get there.

If you have any question regarding Oceans just ask.

I've attached some photos I took from Oceans. You can see the value card as well, if you loose it you pay 100€, I kept it with my money and only used it for food.

I didn't drink alcohol as I was driving.

Cheers,

Nille

Schauer
12-07-14, 21:28
I may be wrong, but I got the impression that Oceans is gaining some momentum, when I visited Saturday. It was my first time, and I was aware of the discussions going on in this thread. First of all it is a magnificent space, even if there are some aspects I disapprove of (live football for example is only in the dining area and on a small screen, the whole formal dining thing is probably a mistake). I especially liked the fact that there is a non smoking policy (some of the girls also pointed that out).

Girls are not naked, that was another thing some of them mentioned as a plus. It also gives them a chance to hide the occasional flaw, although some of them would certainly also shine in other clubs and without any attire. As fore male visitors, they kept coming even very late, and it appeared that countless sessions in the rooms were held. The rooms are fine, there are two switches for the light, which can be set to a nice atmosphere, and not just to some level of near darkness.

I indulged somehow and met five girls, of which I want to mention only the two that were truly special: Alice from Romania, tall, slim, nubile type, nonsmoker, great and tender service. And Emilia from Germany, blond, exquisite skin, bright mind. She clearly stands out, also she does not do everything (no CIM, for example), but who would want to argue with her? She is unique.

If word gets out that there is actually some business going on in Oceans, the lineup should definitely improve. But even, or especially, with 200 girls (which is the number the website boasts, on Saturday there were maybe 40) it will depend on luck and intuition to meet someone like Emilia.

Willi69
12-08-14, 14:11
2 was from PHG 1 from Samya, There were many German girls.Do you know the names from the PHG girls?


The great thing is the club is non-smoking!This should be so in all clubs in the North Rhine-Westphalia area. Since May of 2013 smoking is forbidden in gastronomy. Some clubs (GT, LR) make an exception but this is illegal.

Willi69
12-22-14, 16:44
Currently, you can win one out of 30 free tickets for "Oceans" at http://fkk-club.com, but some tickets are gone already, so be quick. See notes on the home page (only in German available) in the left column, scroll down a bit. Registration is necessary because the code for the free ticket (valid until end of January 2015) is sent to the email address you named at registration ("Registrieren" in the upper right corner, you have to enter each information twice).

As usual, you will receive a control mail after registration in which you have to confirm your registration.

You have to write only one report ("Kommentar", "Kommentar hinzufuegen") about a club listed in "Clubs". You can write in German or English.

Good luck!

MaximDuck
12-23-14, 20:46
Currently, you can win one out of 30 free tickets for "Oceans" at http://fkk-club.com, but some tickets are gone already, so be quick. See notes on the home page (only in German available) in the left column, scroll down a bit. Registration is necessary because the code for the free ticket (valid until end of January 2015) is sent to the email address you named at registration ("Registrieren" in the upper right corner, you have to enter each information twice).

As usual, you will receive a control mail after registration in which you have to confirm your registration.

You have to write only one report ("Kommentar", "Kommentar hinzufuegen") about a club listed in "Clubs". You can write in German or English.

Good luck!For what it's worth I followed the above instructions and haven't received any kind of feedback to email whatsoever. I wonder if I'm missing something.

MaximDuck
12-27-14, 15:49
I guess they were just taking their time sending out notifications. Just received the free pass today. Now to consider whether it's worth checking out for free at the end of January before it expires.

Any recent experiences from anyone?

Varenne
01-02-15, 17:58
Shall we run an ISG sweepstake and how long their business model last for? I reckon February at best.Don't know how it will affect its survivals odds, but the admission fee has been raised to 65€ (it includes unlimited non alcoholic drinks). If you enter before 14:00, you'll pay only 40€ and you're still on time to benefit of the free breakfast.

Extras: arrival by taxi: +30€; wear your normal clothes (only allowed after 20:00): +45€ .

If you arrive by taxi and want to stay in civies, that sums up to 140€, and all is included is non alcoholic drinks. Most flatrate clubs don't even charge as much for a whole day of sexual service!

Citizen Kane
01-02-15, 19:00
Don't know how it will affect its survivals odds, but the admission fee has been raised to 65 (it includes unlimited non alcoholic drinks). If you enter before 14:00, you'll pay only 40 and you're still on time to benefit of the free breakfast.

Extras: arrival by taxi: +30; wear your normal clothes (only allowed after 20:00): +45 .

If you arrive by taxi and want to stay in civies, that sums up to 140, and all is included is non alcoholic drinks. Most flatrate clubs don't even charge as much for a whole day of sexual service!How much is entry if I arrive on a Pogo stick and wish to wear my Carmen Miranda headdress throughout the day?

This place is going down...

Horny Harry
01-03-15, 12:59
How much is entry if I arrive on a Pogo stick and wish to wear my Carmen Miranda headdress throughout the day?

This place is going down...Hahaha! Perhaps one gets in for free if he wears his underpants on his head all night long? LOL!

Amazing that people, lured by a fancy website with pictures of hot chicks and some vague promises, are still interested in this outfit.

Yes the place looks nice, but in the end of the day it's all about price and line-up!

PussyLiccker
01-03-15, 14:16
Only positive I found on my last and only visit there was they changed all the keypads to wristband proximity locks like the ones at GT and LR, but you are able to choose any lock you wish.

DavidSmith3
01-10-15, 11:16
Hi guys,

I am confused. Only been to Arthemis a couple of times but will be in Dusseldorf for a few days and wanted to check the scene. Great reports on DV, Ocean and more but I read something about FKK vs Sauna as relates to the ladies wondering around topless or not. I have seen something regarding the fact that it might depend on what time of the day you are there.

Bottom line is that I would love to go to a place like Arthemis where they are topless. Can someone please give me a recap of what the deal is in Dusseldorf?

Thanks!!

D

Banana Boi
01-10-15, 17:15
Great reports on DV, Ocean Where are you reading these great reports, especially about Oceans? For best lineups in NRW these 2 clubs wouldn't even be close to top 5 and likely not even top 10.

MaximDuck
01-10-15, 18:07
Great reports on DV, Ocean and more...
Where are you reading these great reports, especially about Oceans?The entire Oceans thread at this forum isn't long, and there isn't much that anyone has reported at all. What has been reported hasn't been stellar. But if you should take it upon yourself to visit Oceans soon, feel free to be among the first to report on it one way or another. I'd be interested to know since I have a free pass to be used by the end of the month which happens to correspond to my next visit to the area.

Sirioja
01-10-15, 18:20
How many girls now with only 10 rooms?

If 50 girls, it may mean more than 2 hour waiting.

But beautiful club even no jacuzzi and nothing to eat included in entrance price.

DavidSmith3
01-10-15, 21:22
The entire Oceans thread at this forum isn't long, and there isn't much that anyone has reported at all. What has been reported hasn't been stellar. But if you should take it upon yourself to visit Oceans soon, feel free to be among the first to report on it one way or another. I'd be interested to know since I have a free pass to be used by the end of the month which happens to correspond to my next visit to the area.I guess I should have said "great reporting" as I have read quite a bit about the action in the city here and away. I didn't mean to infer that the reports gave great reviews to the establishments.

I am still waiting for some information regarding my question and if anyone want to give their top 5 clubs that will be great as well.

Varenne
01-10-15, 21:53
I'd be interested to know since I have a free pass to be used by the end of the month.It has been reported that cards originally valid until 2015-01-31 are not accepted anymore, but that was not firsthand information. Best luck with your scheduled visit.

MaximDuck
01-10-15, 22:27
It has been reported that cards originally valid until 2015-01-31 are not accepted anymore, but that was not firsthand information. Best luck with your scheduled visit.I just looked at my pass, and there is nothing on there which speaks of the potential for Oceans to change its mind. I'd be curious how they would intend to foster good relations with prospective customers when they are lured to the club on a false pretense and don't make good on their vouchers. I would never set foot in the club again, especially given the utter lack of positive reports.

Willi69
01-11-15, 14:31
It has been reported that cards originally valid until 2015-01-31 are not accepted anymore, but that was not firsthand information. Best luck with your scheduled visit.That is wrong!

I have clearified this statement in the Dutch Ijsberenforum (in German language):

http://www.ijsberenforum.com/forum/showthread.php?39586-FKK-Club-Oceans-D%FCsseldorf-Rath-Algemeen&p=409119#post409119

Willi69
01-12-15, 14:30
There is a new deal:

On http://fkk-club.com (please scroll down, on the left side) you can find a discount coupon. Print & cut it out and give it over the counter. Then you have to pay only 30 Euro instead of normally 65 Euro. This coupon is valid only until January 15 (this Thursday).

MaximDuck
01-12-15, 17:31
As was just reported below by Willi69, I have also received separate confirmation that the passes issued via the link which was previously shared on this site will remain valid through the end of January. So long as one has the printout with redeemer name and confirmation code that one would have received by email, and the code hasn't already been used by someone else with a copy thereof, the free admission will be honored. According to information forwarded to me by the club with links to German-speaking sites, some enterprising individual was selling business card size passes on Ebay, which I suspect was not appreciated by the club. If you can read German, Willi69's links below cover the info well.

RempNobbes
01-14-15, 20:51
Everybody was not happy to get no food included in the entrance fee. Breakfast still was included.
From today it is official said, that one meal is included in the entrance fee. So you can choose one meal out of 5 on a daily changing menu. A good start into the new year.

By the way, Oliver is the sauna master, he is doing every full hour an excellent sauna "Aufguss" followed by fresh fruits or ice or others.

Oceans is on a good way!

Cheers send rempnobbes.

RempNobbes
01-14-15, 21:00
The famous boat show is starting January, 17th and ends 25th. Yesterday I could see that the line up of new girls is starting to slowly grow. One more benefit for Oceans. Also the boat fair weekend is a must to visit Oceans, the party mile. What do we need more. I will be there. PM if interested to meet and chat. Would be much appreciated.

Cheers.

Tommyseville
01-18-15, 18:56
TR FKK Oceans Dusseldorf Germany, mid-November 2014.

Oberhausen Strasse 17,40472 Dusseldorf Germany.

www.fkk-oceans.de/

Google map link: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Oberhausener+Str.+17,+40472+Dsseldorf,+Germany/@51.27288,6.82045,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x47b8c90191603e6d:0xcfd2d68e93ea832?hl=en.

* * *.

Late Thurs evening, mid-November 2014.

Last club on a multi-club trip:

Sharks (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3225-FKK-Sharks-Darmstadt&p=1655502&viewfull=1#post1655502).

Artemis (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2588-FKK-Artemis-Berlin&p=1649118&viewfull=1#post1649118).

Haus Panthera (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3379-FKK-Haus-Panthera-in-Ratingen&p=1658552&viewfull=1#post1658552).

Oceans.

INTRODUCTION.

Oceans is the big new club on the FKK scene, and while I hadn't really planned to go there, the dismal lineup at Haus Panthera that night wasn't giving me many options. So I had the HP thekefrau call me a taxi and went straight to Oceans.

Would I repeat? Maybe, if the club changed their pricing scheme and had a dependable lineup. But not before.

GETTING THERE.

Cab fare from HP to Oceans wasn't expensive--maybe 11 or 12 EUR? But the club charged me 85 EUR for arriving in a taxi to cover the kickback to the taxi driver, I guess. Most FKK's have such kickback deals, but this was the first time that I as the passenger was charged for it. I grumbled and protested but eventually gave in. I was already there and all. I thought eventually that I should have told the reception girls that I was the one who asked the taxi driver to take me to the club, not that he suggested it and thus warranted getting a kickback, but never bothered.

CLUB.

The club is very nice. Upon entering the front door, there are a flight of stairs going upstairs to fuckrooms, a reception counter at the right that looks right out of a Vegas megaclub or fancy boutique hotel, entrance to the main room directly ahead, and portal to the locker room to the left. Taxi drivers sit at a bench in the entry lobby to wait for their kickbacks.

The locker room was also very nice, with the exception of the cheap-looking hotel-safe style locks on both the money lockers and the half-height clothes lockers. I have since read that these have been swapped out for the RFID types found at GT. During my visit, a helpful beefy security guy showed me how to use it and I just picked one at random--you could pick a different numbered money locker if you desired. The shower room was fancy with a pebble floor like a spa and upscale materials--I rarely saw anyone in there however.

Upon entrance into the main room there is a restaurant area to the right, rather brightly lit in comparison to the large rectangular main room that has a raised sofa tier along the left wall, and multiple sofas around 3 large pillars. The long bar to the right held most of the girls, with a few scattered about on the sofas. This room is fairly large, not as airy and open as Sharks but probably with about the same square footage.

Walk through the bar area to a wellness area with the saunas on the left and the fancy "salt room" to the right. I checked it out and would have liked to have given it a real try, now that I've researched halotherapy (Time magazine article: http://healthland.time.com/2010/11/05/halotherapy-is-salt-treatment-for-real/). Instead I just walked in to take a look--the fountain with water falling over brown twigs was interesting but I'm not sure how theraputic it is. I wonder if you can have a session in there--there are several lounge chairs in the room after all.

Continue walking past the wellness area to the outside patio, which has a beach sand portion and a large concrete area, which I think was originally supposed to hold a swimming pool. It was too cold to hang out there in November, but I would think it would be rather nice in the summer (albeit much better with a real pool there).

I hung out in the main room on one of the back sofas for a while. Some girls came by and sat on my lap to give their pitches; in this regard it seemed more like Mainhattan than Aca in terms of the level of approach. Around midnight that Thursday night there were about 30 girls, not real stunners, but on average better visually than the lineup at HP.

This trio of big Polynesian looking guys were holding forth next to me, they seemed like they were going through girls and talking loudly in French. Like a bunch of Samoan linebackers. I sensed they had been there for a while.

There were a few guys wearing their street clothes in the club--it was kind of weird at first but I remember Oceans has a policy where you can pay more for the privilege of keeping your clothes on. I don't think I would do this--Oceans doesn't seem like a place where much public sex goes on, but there is something a little racy about being able to just start things going right then and there. Like getting blown in front of everyone in the main living room at Bernds, or even Oase for that matter. It just looked weird.

I ended up going upstairs with Elena, a girl who came by twice to my back sofa.

* * *.

ELENA "from Sicily", a pretty Latin-looking girl with high cheekbones and a nice tight body.

Elena sat with me for a while each time she came by, draping herself over my lap whilst trying to get me to go upstairs. Reminded me a bit of Mondial girls or girls from the HK club in Tijuana. Elena said she had previously worked at Magnum, and liked this new club but wasn't sure how business would be just yet.

As sessions go, it was ok. I had a harder time popping because I had just done a girl at HP a little earlier, and I sensed the usual "why does this guy not come?" exasperation, but it was a bit better visually than my options at HP.

* * *.

I didn't bother ordering from the restaurant--I'm so used to free food at FKKs that it almost seems sacreligious to charge 20 EUR for food. First overcharging for entritt then overcharging for food? I've since read that this policy has changed and Oceans is providing some food options with entrance, which makes it more in line with most other clubs.

At one point when hanging out at the bar I got to meet Bert Wolfensheim himself, who cultivates a P. T. Barnum level of PR savvy and media attention in promoting his various brothel businesses. Bert in person is an older guy, rocking that Rod Stewart 'do but seemingly very fit, like a regular runner (or maybe just plenty of partaking of the "help" Bert himself got me a mineralwasser at the bar (individual little bottles of Apollinaris, a nice touch) but needed a waiter to fetch him a bottle opener. I shook his hand and congratulated him on his grand opening and the nice club.

* * *.

SUMMARY.

The club is very, very nice. But overpriced as of my visit--if that situation improves the club should pull in tons of business given its proximity to the airport and size of facilities. In terms of hard product (as in the airline sense), I haven't seen a comparable facility yet. The lineup as of my visit was just ok though. I didn't see any stunners, and the overall makeup of the lineup was not as good as the typical lineup at other big clubs like Sharks, GT, Oase, or Artemis. If the lineup improves considerably, and the pricing model gets better, this club will kick ass.

GIRLS I MET / DID.

* ELENA "from Sicily": ex Magnum. Pretty Latin-looking girl.

AMELIA "from Colombia" via France. Really?

CHANTAL: big eyes, friendly, ex-Oase.

TRINA: tall, older blonde German girl. "I am German!" she exclaimed--knowing that was quite different than the usual I suppose.

LARISSA: big tits sitting at bar.

Free Dude
01-18-15, 20:17
Was there this Thursday for dinner (they include 1 meal now and I had a coupon reducing the entry to 30). The club looks really nice. And that's about the only positive thing I can say. O, it is clean as well with a lot of supportive staff.

Food is ok and you get a big portion. For Duesseldorf however, it ranks below the restaurants in Panthera and Magnum. Still better than anything in Hesssen (that's not charged extra). The club is just one hall, there are no corners to get more private and I have no idea what they are trying to do. Atmosphere is absolutely impossible to get there (unless there are a few hundred people) and the mandatory shows don't add up to much.

Line up no larger than 40 girls, which mainly consists of Wanderhuren. I think I recognized about 90% of the girls from one club or another and most of them have been in the business for years and have been to about a dozen of clubs. The two girls I actually had done before, were very bad session (one of which was Nereya from Sharks, also Rossa in World, which is her current name there.

Luckily I had been to Luderlounge before with three very good sessions, so I felt little pressure to force something. The one optical highlight (Aria) might have gotten to me, but she was to busy with her dance shows.

The thing with this club is, that it changes all the time. Since the weekend there is the BOOT messe, so it might be totally different today. I know from others that at times the line up has been good. But most of these girls quickly move away because of the lack of income.

Willi69
01-19-15, 16:09
Cab fare from HP to Oceans wasn't expensive--maybe 11 or 12 EUR? But the club charged me 85 EUR for arriving in a taxi to cover the kickback to the taxi driver, I guess. Most FKK's have such kickback deals, but this was the first time that I as the passenger was charged for it. I grumbled and protested but eventually gave in. I was already there and all. I thought eventually that I should have told the reception girls that I was the one who asked the taxi driver to take me to the club, not that he suggested it and thus warranted getting a kickback, but never bothered.The extra price is even mentioned on their homepage: http://www.fkk-oceans.de/Eintritt.

"Aufpreise:

Bei Anreise per Taxi betraegt der Aufpreis + 30 Euro".

Faceless78
01-19-15, 16:20
The extra price is even mentioned on their homepage: http://www.fkk-oceans.de/Eintritt.

"Aufpreise:

Bei Anreise per Taxi betraegt der Aufpreis + 30 Euro".Mentioned on the homepage doesn't necessarily mean it's ok. It turns down on me when this policy runs across. The first time I had was in Magnum, I arrived by taxi and charged for 85; second time was 55. I asked why the price is different, reception smiled and said nothing.

Later I learnt the trick. But I don't believe many Fkks adopt this kind of shit.

Willi69
01-19-15, 21:36
But I don't believe many Fkks adopt this kind of shit.In the "Messeclubs" ("fair clubs") in Cologne (for example "Roemerbad") it's usual since a long time.

Hessen Bub
01-19-15, 22:21
It still is a rip off. Commission can be paid to the cab driver, but not on the guest's cost. Oase, Palace do also pay commission. Still the price for the customer remains the same. Don't support that bullshit!

HB.

Willi69
01-19-15, 23:25
It still is a rip off.Of course, I don't like this behaviour, too. I only said it's not totally unusual.

Tommyseville
01-20-15, 00:55
It still is a rip off. Commission can be paid to the cab driver, but not on the guest's cost. Oase, Palace do also pay commission. Still the price for the customer remains the same. Don't support that bullshit!I agree with HB--it's not nice of the club to pass the expense onto the patron. I've bargained cheaper cab rides to Oase knowing that the club would give the driver a kickback upon arrival, so the practice wasn't foreign to me. Just the gall of the club to charge me for wanting to come there.

Some incall places in TJ or Costa Rica would have a similar scheme and you learn to get dropped off a few doors down. I think if word gets out at least informed mongers here will know the score.

Plus, at the time of my visit in November their website was still rather nascent; there was no mention of taxi surcharges (or really, much else) on their website at the time.

Optimist
01-20-15, 12:00
And also remember that the "normal" taxi price is itself much more (up to 50%) than you would pay if you have pre-booked the taxi and negotiated a special rate, so as a result of these scams one is paying probably 40 to 50 euros for nothing.

Varenne
01-20-15, 16:41
And also remember that the "normal" taxi price is itself much more (up to 50%) than you would pay if you have pre-booked the taxi and negotiated a special rate, so as a result of these scams one is paying probably 40 to 50 euros for nothing.Oceans webpage lists a free shuttle service (TELEFON: 0211-65859866. CALL US FOR FREE HOTEL SHUTTLE-SERVICE! So if you're based in an hotel in the area this could be an option.

Using public transport is another viable option. For example:

From theüsseldorf Hbf:

- take train S6 (direction Essen Hbf) from platform 14.

- after 10' ride, exit at theüsseldorf-Rath train stop, platform 2.

- from here, it's a 1. 2 km walk to Oberhausener Str. 17. For instructions, see for example:

http://www.openrouteservice.org/index.php?start=6.821373,51.264591&end=6.821105,51.27277&pref=Pedestrian&lang=en&noMotorways=true&noTollways=false

From theüsseldorf Airport Terminal:

- take train S11 (runs in direction Bergisch Gladbach).

- after 6' ride, exit at theüsseldorf-Derendorf train stop, platform 1.

- take train S6 (direction Essen Hbf) from platform 2.

- after 5' ride, exit at theüsseldorf-Rath train stop, platform 2.

- from here, it's a 1. 2 km walk to Oberhausener Str. 17. For instructions, see for example:

http://www.openrouteservice.org/index.php?start=6.821373,51.264591&end=6.821105,51.27277&pref=Pedestrian&lang=en&noMotorways=true&noTollways=false

Both trip will cost you 2. 6 EUR, instead of the taxi fare + 30 EUR scam.

Horny Harry
01-20-15, 16:53
It's really beyond me why anyone would put up with the hassle of public transport or risks getting ripped off when arriving by taxi, just so that you can enjoy the 'privilege' of a questionable line up and paying 20 Euros for a meal.

What's up with you guys? Are you really that desperate to get ripped off? What world are we living in when you have to tell the taxi driver to drop you off one block from your destination?! Doesn't that say enough about this place?

This place just looks like one thing to me: a typical tourist trap ripoff place!

MaximDuck
01-20-15, 18:32
For all the talk of entry, food, and taxis, does anyone know what the standard rates are for the girls' time at Oceans?

NicMan
01-20-15, 21:18
TR FKK Oceans Dusseldorf Germany, mid-November 2014.Visited Oceans, early December last year. I walked from Dus-rath station, it took 18 min to the club. If you can catch the bus from Dus-rath to Oberhausenerstr, it will be much easy.

My impression is similar. The place is nice except the smoking tent outside. There was no light, no seat, only heating.

The girls I met were from ACA, Magnum, Globe, Palace etc. A girl told me there are 40 girls at that time. Most of the girls are average looks to me.

Optimist
01-21-15, 12:28
As Varenne points out, public transport is always worth thinking about. www.bahn.de is superb and has an English option.

Willi69
01-21-15, 19:02
does anyone know what the standard rates are for the girls' time at Oceans?50 Euro per 30 minutes.

MaximDuck
01-22-15, 03:17
50 Euro per 30 minutes.Thanks for the update, Willi69.

Delta Indigo
01-22-15, 19:04
Hi Guys,

I am going to be in Dusseldorf soon and want to check out Oceans. Does it have an organized price structure like FKK Dolce Vita? In Dolce Vita the cost of anal was 50 Euros more, a pretty good deal, so I had a lot of anal sex there.

Does anyone know the cost of anal at Oceans?

Citizen Kane
01-22-15, 21:38
Does anyone know the cost of anal at Oceans?It all depends if you arrive by taxi or not...

Banana Boi
01-22-15, 23:26
Does anyone know the cost of anal at Oceans?


It all depends if you arrive by taxi or not...You: I'd like to fut you in the arse.

Girl: Did you arrive by taxi?

You: Why does that matter?

Girl: Club says it's usually 50 euro extra but 85 euro if you came by taxi.

RempNobbes
01-23-15, 00:50
No joke here. But I never saw a better FKK club with such a wellness area connected. Every hour between 8 pm and 2 am or later, they are making a sauna tisanerie with different fragrances. And new, also with birch branches or eucalyptus branches. It takes around 10 minutes in 90 centigrade environment. Ending with a served fresh plate of fruits or vegetables. Everything made and controlled by the Saunameister Oliver. Good job.

Not to say how the "Salzgrotte" is. Spending 30 minutes or more. Relaxing, to load your energy for the girls, waiting next room in the club area. A must do are the wonderful shows. The food is fresh made in the own kitchen.

I was there Thursday during the big Boat trade fair in Duesseldorf. It was crowded starting around 9 pm. But not to many girls. That is something the club need to work on. It is only a question of time.

Waiting for the summer season keeping in mind a wonderful heated pool and more extras. Certainly it gives the club much more interesting. That is my opinion. By the way, stuff is friendly and everything around is proper and clean.

So far for today. Next weekend with some more reports from other clubs around NRW. The FKK club highest rate fantasy land. It is good to live here.

Cheers.

Willi69
01-23-15, 12:49
But I never saw a better FKK club with such a wellness area connected.Then you never has visited YinYang in Roermond (The Netherlands, http://www.yinyang.nl), near to the German border. All facilities missing in Oceans are present there: 2 Jacuzzis indoor, swimming pool indoor + outdoor, bio sauna, big and nice garden.

Delta Indigo
01-23-15, 18:55
You: I'd like to fut you in the arse.

Girl: Did you arrive by taxi?

You: Why does that matter?

Girl: Club says it's usually 50 euro extra but 85 euro if you came by taxi.So no serious answers from anyone? I was asking because I know Dolce Vita enforces the surcharge of 50 Extra for Anal, I wanted to know if it was the same at Oceans or if it was 100 extra.

Nille Copenhagen
01-25-15, 09:55
Then you never has visited YinYang in Roermond (The Netherlands, http://www.yinyang.nl), near to the German border. All facilities missing in Oceans are present there: 2 Jacuzzis indoor, swimming pool indoor + outdoor, bio sauna, big and nice garden.The wellness facilities at Artemis is not bad either.

But I like that things are brand-new at Oceans. The outdoor pool was cancel due to lack of permission from the local authorities.

Maybe they will find a solution one day.

Nille Copenhagen
01-25-15, 10:00
So no serious answers from anyone? I was asking because I know Dolce Vita enforces the surcharge of 50 Extra for Anal, I wanted to know if it was the same at Oceans or if it was 100 extra.Consider 50-100 extra for the backdoor service. You need to ask the girls.

If you come by Taxi just tell the taxi driver to stop before the club, to avoid extra charge.

I do that a lot in other countries, where this is a comment practice when arriving by taxi to normal disco and nightclubs.

MaximDuck
01-26-15, 04:38
Took advantage of the Freikarte which I received earlier in the month for responding to an internet offer.

Arrived at 4:30 pm, was issued a robe, a towel, a wristband, and the previously described card for food and alcohol which one dare not lose or pay 100 Euro on the way out.

The reception lady was a bit preoccupied and muttered something in German about the door to the men's lockers. Usually when visiting a place like this for the first time one is offered a quick tour, but that didn't happen. I found myself staring at the lockers. You could choose whichever one you want, however there are no instructions for how the combination lock may be set, so I played around with an empty one for awhile until I figured it out, and then I really liked it.

I decided to start with dinner to build up strength for the evening ahead. It's not a buffet where you kind of graze as you go throughout the day. You get one free meal and you want to make the most of it. And if you're only going to eat one meal, this is the place to do it! OMG, this is the best food at any FKK I've ever visited! The free menu included one's choice of 5 options: 1) tomato / mozzarella plate, 2) Carbonara with egg, 3) Traditional Bolognese, 4) Fish filet with fries, 5) Pork schnitzel with mushroom sauce and fries. Everything is made to order by a chef who clearly knows what he's doing. I ordered the Schnitzel and it ranks among the best I've ever had in my life. It was also easily 1. 5-2 times larger than any schnitzel I've ordered in a restaurant before. The mushrooms weren't just thin sliced. The chunks were probably each a quarter of the mushroom, and the serving size was generous. The french fries were fresh from the fryer and served in a heaping pile. I think each dinner was accompanied by a fresh salad with a nice lettuce blend, sliced carrots, cucumber, and red bell pepper. When it was brought to my table (the dining room is the nicest I've seen at an FKK, and there are candles on each table as well as salt and peppercorn grinders), the presentation was so astounding I practically wanted to take a photograph and upload it to my social media (but obviously thought the better of that! But seriously, we've all seen food advertisements which look a lot better than what you ultimately end up with. Not the case here. You would be hard pressed to find a more visually pleasing and better tasting dinner even at a decent restaurant. I actually said "Wow!" aloud as the waitress put the plate in front of me. A far cry from the heat-lamp monstrosity at Oase the night before! I'll take this meal over an endless buffet of crap any day. If that weren't enough, they have a larger menu one can order from if one really wants to spend the extra money for it. I heard the chef is from Italy for what it's worth.

The advertised free non-alcoholic beverages include Coke, Diet Coke, Coke Zero, Sprite, Fanta orange, apple juice, orange juice, and multivitamin juice. I suspect one can also get things like coffee, tea, milk, etc. , but didn't ask. The sodas are served in chilled 0.2 liter bottles.

Most of the facility is really one giant warehouse with a tall ceiling, with the bar, dance poles, and couches occupying the main area, all of which is fairly dark and absolutely all non-smoking. The music early in the day was fairly soft, which pleased me. They turned it up at 8:00 pm, but it still wasn't too loud at all. The restaurant can be observed from the main area, so if a girl you are looking for is anywhere on the floor you can probably see her from almost anywhere. The Kino is tucked around the back of the bar. At the end of the main area there is a door which connects to the wellness area which contains the steamroom, sauna, and other interesting stuff that I didn't take the time to familiarize myself with. There's an unusual odor in the place which might somehow be connected to the wellness stuff. It's not bad, just different and noticeable.

By 5:30 pm I was through with dinner and ready to check out the ladies. All of them were clothed to some degree or another. Comparing to Oase, Sharks, and Artemis, I felt that the average gal was a little older, a little fuller-figured, with not as many pretty faces as at the other clubs. That said, all legal age levels were adequately represented, and there were some petite girls to go with the more healthy assortment. A quick walk around yielded a count of 14 ladies and 18 guys, not including anyone who might have been in a room or the locker areas.

I took up a position on a couch somewhat central to the main area, expecting to be approached. The overall feel of the club at the moment was lifeless. Most everybody present was just sitting there waiting for somebody else to do or say something. Ultimately a few girls did wander around to introduce themselves. This definitely isn't a club where visitors get ambushed by an aggressive throng of eager providers. I was told that an additional wave of ladies would arrive after 7:00 pm, so I didn't rush into anything. I did notice that the blonde bartender was cuter than every girl on the floor. That never changed the rest of the night.

Because the club is new and everybody has recently worked somewhere else in the recent past, I decided to take a little time with each girl who approached me to find out where they previously worked and what they were known as (if different), just in case it may interest some of the readers here who may know them from other places and perhaps had wondered where they had disappeared to. Assume the same name unless I say otherwise. I also approached a handful, particularly if I thought I might be interested for later. I avoided a fair number as well. So here's who I spoke with:

Kathi - Polish, blonde, a bit chunky. Has been at Oceans for a week. Was previously at Zeus in Kussnacht, Schwyz, Switzerland.

Michelle - Half-Romanian, half-Moroccan, tall busty brunette. Has been at Oceans since it opened 3 months ago. Was previously at Mainhattan.

Chanel - Romanian, brunette, a bit chunky. Has been at Oceans since it opened 3 months ago. Was previously at Magnum, Samya, Acapulco, and others.

Rosa - Romanian, cute, petite, fit blonde. 20 years old, 152 cm tall. Does not kiss. Has been at Oceans for 1 week. Was previously at a club in Austria (couldn't understand where she said it was). I did an ISG search for her name in Austria and came up empty.

Giselle - Romanian, tall brunette, great figure, face so-so. Does not kiss. She visits Oceans off and on. Has previously worked at Dolce Vita.

Aria - Romanian, pencil-thin blonde. Does not kiss. For part of the evening she had this sort of Taylor Swift with nerd glasses look going on. She really needs a burger. Make it a double. Has been at Oceans for 2 months. Was previously at Acapulco.

Samira - Moroccan, older brunette. Has been at Oceans since it opened 3 months ago. Was previously at Freude.

Vicki - Bulgarian, medium build with light brown hair. First day at Oceans. She came for the boat show. Has previously worked at Dolce Vita under the name Alexandra.

Alena - Bulgarian, petite brunette. Also first day at Oceans. Came with Vicki for the boat show. Not sure if she's never done this before, or just didn't know how to answer the question of what clubs she may have worked previously. I would have thought Dolce Vita as well since she came with Vicki, but can't confirm.

Andrade - Romanian, curvy brunette. 180 cm tall barefoot (196 cm in heels). Does not kiss. Has previously worked at Acapulco under the name Casey. Oceans felt the name sounded to much like a dog and asked her to choose something else.

Monika - Bulgarian, petite brunette. Cute face. New in Germany, speaks almost no German, no English. Unable to ask her anything else because we couldn't communicate.

Sena - German-born Turkish. Red hair, extremely pale skin. Petite. She's probably a natural redhead to begin with, but her hair is so shockingly orange that it looks like she strolled through the hair dye section at the department store and found a bottle with Ronald McDonald's picture on the front and just knew she had to have that! Has previously worked at Oase under the name Layla.

Another way that Oceans distinguishes itself from other clubs is the dancing area. Other clubs may have a stripper pole which is used for that precise purpose, and by whatever system the club employs the girls end up taking turns or getting assigned over the course of an evening, generally losing whatever articles of clothing they may have been wearing in the process. At Oceans there was nothing like that. At 8:20 pm the spotlight illuminated the two poles and the column between them, and out strutted three girls wearing what might best be described as showgirl attire, with some sort of interesting feathered headdress. They danced wearing these outfits for about 5-10 minutes, and then retreated to a staging area back by the private rooms. Over the course of the evening this would periodically recur again and again, each time with different girls and interesting costumes. At one point Andrade came out wearing a beautiful purple belly-dancer outfit and really made an impression. I asked her about it later to find out if it was some sort of Romanian dance that she was doing, and she laughed, responding that it was a terrible attempt at an Arabian dance and she thought she was horrible. The guys apparently didn't share her view, as she was largely booked the rest of the evening, including by me. Other outfits included Victoria's Secret-style angel wings and other feathered attire. All things considered, I like what they did more than how this sort of thing is done at other clubs.

Of the girls mentioned above, I sessioned with Andrade and Rosa. Andrade was quite warm and pleasing. I'm not normally a boob guy, but hers are about as nice and lush as they come. Very pleasant personality, and a nice 30 minutes. Rosa isn't as warm a personality type, but her petite little frame is phenomenal and it was pure fantasy touching and caressing her young flawless skin for another 30 minutes. To be 25 years younger!

Final Analysis: For all intents and purposes, Oceans almost holds its own against the other clubs I've visited in Germany. When I did another headcount at 10:15 pm I ended up with 22 ladies and 35 guys, not accounting for anyone in a room or in the locker areas. Still nowhere near the 200 figure the club has previously advertised. There was probably a higher peak of ladies around 8:00 pm. Not quite the selection I've seen at the other clubs, yet it suffices if there are a half dozen girls one might be interested in, and in that respect it was perfectly acceptable. Nobody was booked solid despite the ratio of men to women. If there was someone you wanted to spend time with, you could have it. Much like the other clubs, there is a heavy Eastern European demographic. No Asians or Africans in the mix. One gal 'might' have been of Latin origin. And as mentioned before, the overall feel is a slightly older, slightly more full-figured, but probably someone for almost anyone's fancy. And did I mention the outstanding cuisine?! I don't know that I would go out of my way and make a special trip to Dusseldorf to visit Oceans again, but wouldn't think twice if already in the area. Might actually consider a special trip if I knew for certain that Rosa would still be there.

RempNobbes
02-02-15, 11:46
I took the time to go on Sunday afternoon to Oceans. Was quite surprised to the amount of men and girls. Had with Emma from Russia and Monica more then good GFS. They told me that it was very crowed on Friday and Saturday. All in all it was again I wonderful visit. Sunday is recommending if you like a club not that busy.

Ending up at 11:30 pm with a Oceans special sauna Aufguss with eucalyptus tinders. Very nice. Never had that before. Nice and are laying taste with a like of Russian style tinders mashes over your complete body back. After that you feel new born.

Waiting for the next visit soon. Cheers rempnobbes.

Nille Copenhagen
02-03-15, 11:09
It sounds like Oceans will pick up more momentum, nice!

I predict this club would beat the others NRW clubs someday. I'm optimistic.

Horny Harry
02-04-15, 11:18
It sounds like Oceans will pick up more momentum, nice!

I predict this club would beat the others NRW clubs someday. I'm optimistic.So let's try to think a little bit ahead here.

Will you be happy if other clubs in NRW will charge you 30 Euros, or whatever it is, extra if you arrive by taxi? Happy that you can pay extra for food? Happy so that you can enjoy a mediocre line-up from girls who couldn't make it in other NRW and HES clubs? Happy so you can enjoy a tourist trap that tries to up-sell you a lot of things that are standard at other clubs? Is this your idea of "nice" and "optimistic?" Should these business practices be rewarded?

Stop thinking with your dick! Fool!

Nille Copenhagen
02-04-15, 12:13
So let's try to think a little bit ahead here.

Will you be happy if other clubs in NRW will charge you 30 Euros, or whatever it is, extra if you arrive by taxi? Happy that you can pay extra for food? Happy so that you can enjoy a mediocre line-up from girls who couldn't make it in other NRW and HES clubs? Happy so you can enjoy a tourist trap that tries to up-sell you a lot of things that are standard at other clubs? Is this your idea of "nice" and "optimistic?" Should these business practices be rewarded?

Stop thinking with your dick! Fool!I should report you for insulting! Uhh I'm so Horny Harry LOL want to suck my dick! LOL.

The Oceans is trying to adjust their business to attract guys and girls, they adjust the prices often and have the food included now. More girls are coming, a few of my favorites from Aca and Samya are frequenting Oceans as well.

Regarding the taxi fee, I don't care as I'm driving, if you are concerned about the fee just make the taxi stop before the club, how hard can it be. This trick I use at some nightclubs in some cities there the taxi extra fee also applies.

The club have new and nice facilities, they just need to adjust the business model, then they can beat the others clubs, which I have visit so many times. I'm kind of bored by the clubs facilities, but I go there for the girls. If Oceans have the nicest girls the club would be a top-club, it's close to the city and airport as well.

Horny Harry
02-04-15, 19:25
The club have new and nice facilities, they just need to adjust the business model, then they can beat the others clubs, which I have visit so many times. I'm kind of bored by the clubs facilities, but I go there for the girls. If Oceans have the nicest girls the club would be a top-club, it's close to the city and airport as well.Sorry, but your 'reasoning' just does not make any sense whatsoever. If you don't care for the facilities, you have a car and just go for the girls, then why don't you drive to one of the existing clubs in NRW or HES, try a regular Haus or an escort agency? Or are you so easily misled by a catchy YouTube video full of sexy models who are most probably only hired for the grand opening, or has anyone else seen those beauties during normal club nights?

I'm afraid it's pretty clear by now that those 'new' and beautiful girls people saw in the YouTube video don't just fall from the sky, and the girls currently working there are mostly a ragtag collection of girls which are 'recycled' or 'poached' from other clubs. Add that to the overall reduction in facilities like paying for food, having to pay your own commission if arriving by taxi (haha, WTF?!), the general state of the economy (lot's of girls in GT's, Sharks and Oase are complaining that business is very slow) then I'm totally puzzled why anyone would be in favor? I doubt that this is good for anyone, be it the working girls, the customers, or the club owners.

Competition is good if it increases services for customers and provides girls and clubs with money, but hoping that this business model succeeds is like turkeys voting for Christmas.

It's a pity, as Duesseldorf is a lot closer for me than some Hessen clubs and the place does look very nice, but their confusing pricing 'strategy' and the here reported mediocre line-up simply are not going to persuade me for a visit.

Nille Copenhagen
02-04-15, 22:04
It's a pity, as Duesseldorf is a lot closer for me than some Hessen clubs and the place does look very nice, but their confusing pricing 'strategy' and the here reported mediocre line-up simply are not going to persuade me for a visit.I'll remember your words, so don't there if you don't like it, I'm not saying the club will get better next week, we are talking about maybe in 1+ year. It also took the others clubs some times to gain momentum. Club like Aca, was bad 5 years ago, but now is a top NRW club because of the nice girls.

PussyLiccker
02-05-15, 02:58
So far the positives has been about facilities and offering a meal. Whoopdeedoo. Free meals were already provided at other clubs, and I don't go to club for facilites as I attend ACA for instance. I personally prefer if this club has never existed. With the rate increase of other clubs in all. It's just another club girls will move around to. Perhaps it will gain popularity some day, but I don't care for it's existence. NRW was perfectly fine without.

Regarding ACA, when I started hearing good things about the club back in 2012, a punter told me management changed at the time.

Breadman
02-05-15, 21:24
Does it have an outdoor garden?

Nille Copenhagen
02-05-15, 22:36
So far the positives has been about facilities and offering a meal. Whoopdeedoo. Free meals were already provided at other clubs, and I don't go to club for facilites as I attend ACA for instance. I personally prefer if this club has never existed. With the rate increase of other clubs in all. It's just another club girls will move around to. Perhaps it will gain popularity some day, but I don't care for it's existence. NRW was perfectly fine without.

Regarding ACA, when I started hearing good things about the club back in 2012, a punter told me management changed at the time.The food sucks at ACA (unless there is an event), sometimes I wish to get out and get some decent food then get back for more fun.

Nille Copenhagen
02-05-15, 22:39
Does it have an outdoor garden?They were building an outdoor area with a garden and pool, but they didn't got permission somehow, now there is an outdoor area with a few palm trees, but is not a real garden. I don't know their plans for the summer.

RempNobbes
02-06-15, 00:16
Does it have an outdoor garden?Yes. They do have an outdoor garden now with a few Palm trees and white sand. In spring they are opening the heated pool and have a barbecue area. The indoor whirl pool will be ready soon. What means what I saw today, when the two big panorama glas doors are open, you can go direct within one step form the wellness area to the outdoor garden. Depending on the summer weather in Germany, it is going to be a good outdoor garden season in Oceans.

I was still surprised on the number of girls today. It seemed first to be a quiet evening. But within being 10 pm the club was filled, more with girls than men. And that for a Thursday evening as preparation for the coming weekend.

Also they provided some new shows. Sauna every hour with new fragrances.

How to say, everything needs time and that is only a question of time.

One likes it, the other one not.

So far from the Ocean beach front.

Rempnobbes.

Vito Corleone
03-02-15, 12:28
Does it have an outdoor garden?Yes. Allow access if you arrive by taxi!

Sirioja
03-02-15, 19:45
Are there fresh natural pretty girls now? I mean not girls who worked before in all NRW other clubs.

At what time they arrive?

NicMan
03-02-15, 20:54
Are there fresh natural pretty girls now? I mean not girls who worked before in all NRW other clubs.

At what time they arrive?Some girls told me they came from the clubs in Fra. I did not find the 'fresh pretty' girls. I think most of the girls worked in the other place before.

I went to last Saturday before 2 pm, 40 Eur entry, only 5 girls and 5 men. After 6 pm, the lineup was getting slowly up. Full lineup after 8 pm.

Sirioja
03-03-15, 00:27
Some girls told me they came from the clubs in Fra. I did not find the 'fresh pretty' girls. I think most of the girls worked in the other place before.

I went to last Saturday before 2 pm, 40 Eur entry, only 5 girls and 5 men. After 6 pm, the lineup was getting slowly up. Full lineup after 8 pm.How many girls after 8 pm, with 10 rooms?

Mainly Romanian girls or some German?

Thanks

NicMan
03-03-15, 22:16
How many girls after 8 pm, with 10 rooms?

Mainly Romanian girls or some German?

ThanksAt 8 pm, 40 girls (maybe plus 10 in the rooms) and 50+ men. DJ played good music and some girls danced all night.

Mainly Rom girls and some Bul girls. One Slovakia girl. One girl looked like German but I did not talk to her.

RempNobbes
03-06-15, 00:02
Paid the club a quick visit on Wednesday, this week. Arrived around 6 pm. It was pretty quite. Counting around 40 girls and 30 men. Decided to go to the wellness area first and have some food. Both was like every time very good. From hour to hour the club got more crowded. With girls and men. Around 9 pm I counted around 50+ girls and more men. And yes. They do have new fresh faces. A good balanced mixture between Rom, Bulgarien, Turkish and also some German girls.
Weekends are mostly party time. Like last parties with themes, one weekend a red party and one weekend a white party. All the girls and service staff are the same colored dressed. Every hour show time with groups of dancing girls. And every hour in the sauna a fragrance water injection. Very well done.

Next weekend there. Let me know if you want to chat.

Cheers.

Rempnobbes.

Nille Copenhagen
03-07-15, 11:06
Paid the club a quick visit on Wednesday, this week. Arrived around 6 pm. It was pretty quite. Counting around 40 girls and 30 men. Decided to go to the wellness area first and have some food. Both was like every time very good. From hour to hour the club got more crowded. With girls and men. Around 9 pm I counted around 50+ girls and more men. And yes. They do have new fresh faces. A good balanced mixture between Romanian, Bulgarian, Turkish and also some German girls.

Weekends are mostly party time. Like last parties with themes, one weekend a red party and one weekend a white party. All the girls and service staff are the same colored dressed. Every hour show time with groups of dancing girls. And every hour in the sauna a fragrance water injection. Very well done.

Next weekend there. Let me know if you want to chat.

Cheers.

Rempnobbes.Thanks for reporting, It sounds like Ocean has picked up more momentum, just as I predicted, very positive.

How was the line-up? I love the party mood.

I'll check up Ocean again in a couple of weeks as some of my favorites from Aca had moved to Oceans.

Banana Boi
03-07-15, 15:21
some of my favorites from Aca had moved to Oceans.Which ACA girls are at oceans?

RempNobbes
03-07-15, 22:27
Thanks for reporting, It sounds like Ocean has picked up more momentum, just as I predicted, very positive.

How was the line-up? I love the party mood.

I'll check up Ocean again in a couple of weeks as some of my favorites from Aca had moved to Oceans.Was there yesterday and wanted to go toady, but a bad flu approached me. No wonder when moving in places with much people now a days. Friday was Party time. The shows were run every 20 minutes what brought around 10 pm very good party time into the club. Amazing is that there is a good healthy mixture between German, Russian, Tschech, Polish, Bulgarian and a few Rom girls. Not to be expected in clubs in Germany anymore. Left around 2 am and saw still some new men coming in. The sofas (couch) were all occupied.

Cheers Rempnobbes.

PussyLiccker
03-07-15, 22:47
Amazing is that there is a good healthy mixture between German, Russian, Tschech, Polish ..What percentage of the lineup, and what's the age range of the these girls? Are they coming from other clubs at the NRW?

Trans Atlantic
03-08-15, 00:33
Which ACA girls are at oceans?Probably all the cute ones as Aca lineup was horrible last couple of days.

Nille Copenhagen
03-08-15, 11:07
Which ACA girls are at oceans?It would be stupid of me to shout the names out in public, the girls know me LOL.

And they want to keep their options open so they can return without any hard feelings from the clubs.

Jymondor
03-18-15, 15:29
I am going to try this club. The most convenient day is next Sunday. How Sunday's look there?
Any updates will be appreciated.

Sirioja
03-18-15, 20:24
Was there yesterday and wanted to go toady,
Amazing is that there is a good healthy mixture between German, Russian, Tschech, Polish, Bulgarian and a few Rom girls. Not to be expected in clubs in Germany anymore. Left around 2 am and saw still some new men coming in. The sofas (couch) were all occupied.

Cheers Rempnobbes.These girls from many countries as they said are new or working in other NRW FKK before?

RempNobbes
03-18-15, 20:28
I am going to try this club. The most convenient day is next Sunday. How Sunday's look there?
Any updates will be appreciated.I was there many Sunday's. During the daylight, what means now the sun set is around 7 pm, it is slow going, both sides, men and girls. But after around 8 pm to 9 pm it is getting better. New girls came in last Sunday. All shows are starting from 8 pm what makes the club more alive. But what club in Germany is good on a Sunday? Probably I do not need to answer here as you all know. Sometimes I really enjoy Sunday's. It has its special feeling. Just try it.

Some girls are seen in other clubs. Most new girls never seen before. Age average 25. Well, depending of the point of you.

Tomorrow Artemis Berlin. Weekend Oceans. Enjoy!

So far with cheers.

Rempnobbes.

Jymondor
03-22-15, 22:37
Today (Sunday) I visited Oceans first time. Will return on Tuesday because on Monday I meet my friend in Acapulco. Other way I would go there three straight days. This is an excellent place to relax for all day long. Dancing girl after 8:00 PM will keep you entertaining. Good facility, good food. The only thing I cannot understand is why so advanced facility does not have Jacuzzi and / or indoor swimming pool.

Wi-FI is available, tablets allowed all over the place.

Line-up is very mixed. Of course it is far below Frankfurt clubs or GT or even ACA. But I had no problems to find two girls for two rooms. No more because I need to distribute energy between seven days of my venue.

I saw few familiar faces from different clubs. I am terrible to remember names. The only name I could remember is Mickey from Samya (a. K. a Michelle at Mainhatten & Villa vertigo). I sessioned with Flori (formerly Cleopatra from Oase). Another girl forgotten right after session.

It is a bit dark there. I would prefer more light. But in general my impressions are positive. This club might have a great future if management will do right things.

Willi69
03-23-15, 13:25
The only thing I cannot understand is why so advanced facility does not have Jacuzzi and / or indoor swimming pool.On a big poster at the window beneath the sauna a jacuzzi (in the middle of the wellness area) is anounced for this year.

RempNobbes
03-23-15, 20:21
On a big poster at the window beneath the sauna a jacuzzi (in the middle of the wellness area) is anounced for this year.Yes. That is correct and it is the same I got as information from the reception.

The jacuzzi is planned for this year. The outdoor pool is hidden under the stone plates between sand beach and building. That is the reason why the plates are moving when you step on. They are loose fastened on a kind of temporarily kind of net. The jacuzzi and outdoor pool will close the wellness circle.

I was there last weeekend. Friday and Saturday. Again, the observing here is that the amount of girls are increase. I personally counted on Friday, at around 10 pm, 80 girls. Party feeling very good, as music and shows. Music not to loud, so that you could talk and / or understand your partner without screening to each other. Air quality tip top. For non smokers. Smokers have to go out into a heated tent outside. Fresh fruits are served within the sauna injections form one to the other hour.

Will be there on Wednesday and next weekend.

Cheers.

Rempnobbes.

RempNobbes
03-23-15, 20:42
By the way, there is a nice roll up advertising at the reception from Oceans. Free download and very informative if you need to know something about FKK clubs in Germany. Most languages available and running on iOS and Android system. It is called Freier Verkehr and has something to do a kind of "traffic" messages. Hard to translate but you will see yourself what meaning it has. Just enjoy and have a look. The time of technology is also in the oldest business of the world not stopping. Just to say, go with the time and use your smartphone.

Cheers.

Rempnobbes.

Ableyone
03-23-15, 22:32
Are there any problems with long room waiting times on the busier Friday / Saturday nights?

Jymondor
03-23-15, 22:49
Today I sessioned in Acapulco with Aria, who returned to ACA after few weeks in Oceans. She said that she did not pay entry fee in Oceans because she performed pole dancing. All dancing girls are granted free entry. However she did not like that deal. She had do dance up to 10 times per shift. She said that this is physically demanding especially if girl performs real pole dance. Besides each dance takes more than half of hour including changing dress and shower after.

McAdonis
03-23-15, 22:55
Today I sessioned in Acapulco with Aria, who returned to ACA after few weeks in Oceans. She said that she did not pay entry fee in Oceans because she performed pole dancing. All dancing girls are granted free entry. However she did not like that deal. She had do dance up to 10 times per shift. She said that this is physically demanding especially if girl performs real pole dance. Besides each dance takes more than half of hour including changing dress and shower after.I had read that Aria was doing the pole-dancing but I thought it might be some other girl. Just didn't picture a gangly, model-thin girl could actually do something so strenous. I've never seen Aria without her hipster glasses. And the times I saw her at ACA, she always just stood by the door.

Jymondor
03-23-15, 23:14
I had read that Aria was doing the pole-dancing but I thought it might be some other girl. Just didn't picture a gangly, model-thin girl could actually do something so strenous. I've never seen Aria without her hipster glasses. And the times I saw her at ACA, she always just stood by the door.Sounds like that Aria. Very slim. I would say podium-slim and gracious. But she wasn't wearing glasses. Today in ACA she occupied a sofa at the far wall at the entrance to the rooms. But she was walking back and forth on regular base demonstrating her slim body.

She is well stretched. I enjoyed this her feature in the room. So I wouldn't surprised that she performs real pole dancing.

BTW session was average. She performed all what she supposed to perform, allows DATY and digits, but nothing special. LFK only, BBBJ not skilled enough.

Funny but she newer watched Game of Thrones. She said that many men call her Aria Stark and she could not understand why.

Willi69
03-24-15, 15:26
On next Friday (27.3.) there will be Bert's birthday party in Oceans.

Jymondor
03-24-15, 19:58
Life update. Did ex-Sara (LR, Panthera Haus) and very new girl Andrea. Both sessions great.

Just spoke to ex-Flofi from former Panthera Haus. Girls pay 55 Euros. This includes food. Staying overnight another 15 Euros. Same rooms as for sessions. No special rooms forvgirls overnighing.

It is 19:55. Lineup picking up. I would say up to 40 girl. Theke told about 60, but I cannot believe.

RempNobbes
03-24-15, 21:17
Life update. Did ex-Sara (LR, Panthera Haus) and very new girl Andrea. Both sessions great.

Just spoke to ex-Flofi from former Panthera Haus. Girls pay 55 Euros. This includes food. Staying overnight another 15 Euros. Same rooms as for sessions. No special rooms forvgirls overnighing.

It is 19:55. Lineup picking up. I would say up to 40 girl. Theke told about 60, but I cannot believe.Greetings over to Oceans. I also know all three girls from old Panthera and Living Room times. By the way, her name was Flori in Panthera. The same for Sara. They do have new names there, but do not tell me. For me like you wrote, they have the same names also in other clubs.

Enjoy your stay. I will be there tomorrow Wednesday and for sure at be. A Birthday party on Friday.

Cheers.

Jymondor
03-24-15, 21:52
Enjoy your stay. I will be there tomorrow Wednesday and for sure at be. A Birthday party on Friday.I will be there as well. Decided to repeat one time. Regrettably I could not stay till Friday. If I knew about that party earlier I would schedule my venue accordingly. Stay tomorrow online and we could meet and chat about the girls.


For me like you wrote, they have the same names also in other clubs. Same here. I always call girls with the the name a met them first time regardless under what name they work now.

Dufey
03-24-15, 22:29
It is 19:55. Lineup picking up. I would say up to 40 girl. Theke told about 60, but I cannot believe.Maybe you can believe better when you consider that some girls are in the room, some girls are in the locker room, some girls may be eating. Not all the girls you see at the one time.

Danny227
03-24-15, 22:40
Maybe you can believe better when you consider that some girls are in the room, some girls are in the locker room, some girls may be eating. Not all the girls you see at the one time.Guys,

Should this party be better than a normal Friday at World or Sharks? It could full of people and to many girls and long lines for rooms as well. Is it worth going to instead of Sharks on a Friday? I am hosting a friend, so I am trying to find the best option.

Thanks!

Jymondor
03-24-15, 23:02
Maybe you can believe better when you consider that some girls are in the room, some girls are in the locker room, some girls may be eating. Not all the girls you see at the one time.I count 24 girls in main room and eating area. Maybe three more in wellness area. However number of girls raised around 9:00 PM.

Dufey
03-24-15, 23:13
I count 24 girls in main room and eating area. Maybe three more in wellness area. However number of girls raised around 9:00 PM.How many girls in the locker room and how many girls in the room? Are you counting them? Also are you counting the day shift girls and the night shift girls. Some day shift girls could have left already or are outside having a smoke so not in the main room.

But this is the thing. A man goes to Oase on the same day that Syzgies goes to Oase. The man says the line up is awful stating there was no more than 40 girls in the club and the man was there all day. But then Syzygies writes a line- up list with 90 girls on it. You cannot always count the girls at a point in time as being the line up.

Also there are girls in the room. For example, in Oase if there are 22 rooms then there could be 22 girls in them right now or in between clients getting washed in the locker room.

RempNobbes
03-25-15, 00:00
How many girls in the locker room and how many girls in the room? Are you counting them? Also are you counting the day shift girls and the night shift girls. Some day shift girls could have left already or are outside having a smoke so not in the main room.

But this is the thing. A man goes to Oase on the same day that Syzgies goes to Oase. The man says the line up is awful stating there was no more than 40 girls in the club and the man was there all day. But then Syzygies writes a line- up list with 90 girls on it. You cannot always count the girls at a point in time as being the line up.

Also there are girls in the room. For example, in Oase if there are 22 rooms then there could be 22 girls in them right now or in between clients getting washed in the locker room.That is the point. Good statement Dufey. BTW, will be there around 7 pm. PM.

Willi69
03-25-15, 12:15
Should this party be better than a normal Friday at World or Sharks? It could full of people and to many girls and long lines for rooms as well. Is it worth going to instead of Sharks on a Friday? I am hosting a friend, so I am trying to find the best option.It's the first party in Oceans, except the opening party. So there is no experience and all is possible.

BTW they have a new homepage.

Sirioja
03-25-15, 12:56
Guys,

Should this party be better than a normal Friday at World or Sharks? It could full of people and to many girls and long lines for rooms as well. Is it worth going to instead of Sharks on a Friday? I am hosting a friend, so I am trying to find the best option.

Thanks!You have also party on 27 March at Samya.

Nille Copenhagen
03-25-15, 13:32
It's the first party in Oceans, except the opening party. So there is no experience and all is possible.

BTW they have a new homepage.Their new HP is very slow and is inspired by FKK Sharks.

OK so Aria is back to Aca, I'll catch her on Sat. For old times sake: the.

I didn't know she preformed pole dance, was she good?

Jymondor
03-25-15, 15:51
I didn't know she preformed pole dance, was she good?I didn't see her in Oceans. So I have no idea how good is she at the pole.

Jymondor
03-25-15, 19:47
It looks slower today, but it is 19:45 only.

However I managed one of the greatest one-hour sessions in my long FKK history. Bulgarian Bonnie. Funny girl, fun session. Lots of DFK and pussy rubbing. One hour of the straight fun.

Jymondor
03-25-15, 21:15
Bulgarian Bonnie.Forgot to mention. She is ex-Bonnie from DV (Dusseldorf).

It is still slow here.

NicMan
03-25-15, 22:31
It looks slower today, but it is 19:45 only.

However I managed one of the greatest one-hour sessions in my long FKK history. Bulgarian Bonnie. Funny girl, fun session. Lots of DFK and pussy rubbing. One hour of the straight fun.She was always funny or wild in the room (also at the couch) in DV.

How is the lineup (quality)? Comparable to the other clubs in NRW?

Jymondor
03-25-15, 23:41
It is still slow here.This place get packed somewhere between 21:20 and 22:20. When I return from the room after another 1 HR session I found crowd of men.

Verdict: three days that normally not good for mongering (Sun, Tue, Wed), eight sessions. One average, five good, two outstanding. Six girls look very nice, one chubby, one is ex-Sara (HP) - appearance is not her feature, as many of us know.

This is one of the best result in my mongering history. However, I cannot fully enjoy the club if girls are not completely nude. So my last day either Mainhatten or Sharks. Will decide while driving to Frankfurt.

RempNobbes
03-29-15, 21:37
Last weekend was party time. Friday started with a birthday party from Bert. At 9 pm invited person were allowed to get in with normal clothes. So there was from 9 pm a mixture between bathrobe people and normal clothed birthday people. And it was working very well. So normal daily club business including a birthday party. Never seen before. But it brought a special atmosphere into the club. Shows were regularly changed by a few birthday attractions. Place was crowded. Line up perfect. I left around 4 am in the morning and still new people came in. Not seen before.

After a relaxing Saturday afternoon I decided to go back to the club around 8 pm and was surprised what I saw at the parking lot. It was filled with cars and at least 5 Taxis stood in front of the entrance. I had to park, first time after the opening party in November, across the street. And wow, it was Saturday, no more birthday party, but Oceans was packed with people. More men than girls. But at all enough for everyone and nearly same line up like Friday. A few new German girls were seen.

Every hour sauna injection was filled up with men and some times they run out of dishes for food. Food was good as very time. On Friday they were able to offer the pork schnitzel but no more on Saturday. They did not expect that much people what could be the reason.

Just in short words my impressions from last weekend. Not much time toady to go more in detail.

Cheers.

Rempnobbes.

UltraHappy
03-29-15, 22:48
Last weekend was party time. Friday started with a birthday party from Bert. At 9 pm invited person were allowed to get in with normal clothes. So there was from 9 pm a mixture between bathrobe people and normal clothed birthday people. It's difficult to understand wanting to wear full clothes to an FKK. So much a hassle and time-waster to take them off and put them on for every room. I've been to a place beofre where the customers wore full clothes and disrobe and get dressed for every room. What a supreme hassle! In any case, the bathrobe just has so much a comfortable feel to it once you get used to it (or the towel if it's too hot for the bathrobe).

Dufey
03-29-15, 23:21
It's difficult to understand wanting to wear full clothes to an FKK. So much a hassle and time-waster to take them off and put them on for every room. I've been to a place beofre where the customers wore full clothes and disrobe and get dressed for every room.I never quite understood this about some clubs. I recall some Swiss clubs that I attended where it was mixed for the clothing for men being either a bathrobe of street clothes. That was Bumsalp.

Also Villa Vertigo on its party evenings at times allowed fully clothed men. Nille Copenhagen wrote often that he preferred to wear his normal clothes for the parties at Villa Vertigo.

It does not make me feel comfortable that some men are in towels or bathrobes being naked underneath, then some men are wearing shoes or boots and fully clothed.

McAdonis
03-31-15, 18:56
Attended earlier and got charged the happy hour pricing of 40 EUR. They served breakfast which consisted of bread, jellies, cold meats. Nothing warm. Maybe only 15 girls on the floor through most of the early afternoon. Didn't have much to do, so did some sauna and sat in the the salt room, which is a damp room that smells like an aquarium. I suppose it is relaxing. Some people were sleeping in there. For dinner they offered five choices that are inclusive in the entry. I went with curry chicken over rice. For 40 EURs not bad. Had I paid 65 EUR, I probably would have felt cheated.

By the time I left at 8:30 pm the club was filling up. I tried a Romanian girl named Mona. 1. 65 cm. Tight thin body. Smallish breasts. Tattoos filled her upperback. Had a tongue piercing. Shaved hair on the sides. Had Miley Cyrus hair. Dyed blond hair that she combed back and went down to the middle of the back of her head. She did some DFK but it was a somewhat rushed session. There seemed to be at least 50 girls. Maybe even 80. Hard to say, but despite this I found no other targets or any girl that I would come back for. There is one girl who is a top looker for me, but I know her from a previous club and had a bad experience.

Lots of men were arriving. I think they have some promotion where they allow discounted pricing for large groups of men. I saw at least 2-3 large groups of men being given a tour of the place. Mostly it was groups of younger men in their 20's or 30's.

Willi69
04-01-15, 14:22
Lots of men were arriving. I think they have some promotion where they allow discounted pricing for large groups of men. I saw at least 2-3 large groups of men being given a tour of the place.FKK Oceans had distributed "Unternehmenseinladungen" (=invitations for companies) to companies in the area of Duesseldorf (Germany / The Netherlands).

http://www.ijsberenforum.com/forum/showthread.php?39586-FKK-Club-Oceans-D%FCsseldorf-Rath-Algemeen&p=418615#post418615

Some people speak about 30.000 of this invitations. They were valid until yesterday. One invitation included free entry for 3 people (see picture).

Especially at the weekend (in the evening) there is a (very) good LU in Oceans. Last Saturday I saw many girls from Romania (of course), but also girls (at least) from Germany, Morocco, Spain, Slovakia, Turkey, Colombia, the Caribbean, Russia and Poland, in sum about 50 or even more.

I had a very nice date with Samira, a girl from Morocco, I met (as Nora) recently in 2002 in PHG.

Sanuk327
04-01-15, 18:40
I never quite understood this about some clubs. I recall some Swiss clubs that I attended where it was mixed for the clothing for men being either a bathrobe of street clothes. That was Bumsalp.

Also Villa Vertigo on its party evenings at times allowed fully clothed men. Nille Copenhagen wrote often that he preferred to wear his normal clothes for the parties at Villa Vertigo.

It does not make me feel comfortable that some men are in towels or bathrobes being naked underneath, then some men are wearing shoes or boots and fully clothed.Apparently, men wearing normal clothes do not take shower before having sex as there is no shower cabins in the rooms. For me not taking shower after work day is not hygienic.

RempNobbes
04-02-15, 13:54
Apparently, men wearing normal clothes do not take shower before having sex as there is no shower cabins in the rooms. For me not taking shower after work day is not hygienic.Well. In that case it was a birthday party and most of the men came in in clothes were also coming with a girl (wife), so there were no need for them to make a room. They are used to a surrounding like that. Personally I observed only a few men on a Friday or Saturday evening after 10 pm coming in with clothes and paid 100 Euro entrance for it. And if you see next time the first level of the building where the rooms (Zimmer) are, in each section is a shower. And for sure the girls will take care about hygienic. So far to what I saw in Oceans. Hope that helps to see it out from an other perspective.

Will be there tonight and a few days over the Easter weekend.

Cheers.

Rempnobbes.

RempNobbes
04-04-15, 19:04
Just arrived at OCEANS. Easter line up is fabulous. All girls are in nice Easter costumes. It is now 8 pm and I can count around 45 girls in the main room. First Easter bunny show started at 7 pm. Well done. Coming back soon with new messages.

Cheers.

Rempnobbes.

Delta Indigo
04-07-15, 08:34
Hello,

I feel that this club has been much maligned, all new places tend to be. I went there for the first time yesterday, and I do have to say that the place itself is gorgeous. The layout, the decor and facilities are very very very nice and to tell you the truth I have not seen a better place in that respect anywhere else in Germany.

The club is both gorgeous and the facilities are very nice. There are IPads all around and free for your use. There is only one free dish and not unlimited food like at other places, but quite frankly since the food is made to order it is much better that way.

I walked from Dusseldorf-Rath station and it took me around 20 minutes, an easy route though.

The one thing that this new club is not up to par with is the lineup and quality of girls, the lineup at Aca during the Easter weekend was far far far better.

The best looking girl I sessioned with was Ewa from Bulgaria, beautiful body, but she is new to the game and unlike what I have read from other posters her performance level is sub standard I and far below par, I would give her a 4 out of 10 at best.

I think she is new to the game and very nervous, she did various things to kill the mood, like put her finger behind her pussy, while I was fucking her doggy style to minimize the penetration depth and told me not to touch the condom so that I could not rub my penis to make myself harder. I usually lose the mood at this point and I had, and then she said I was strange and so on. I don't know why anyone would be pleased with her performance. She is however very beautiful. I did see at least one ex Aca girl and two ex Magnum girls (I remembered them although I was at Magnum just once).

It was early on Easter Monday and maybe the lineup gets better after 19:00 when I left. But the lineup at Aca is unquestionably better and the service level at Aca is usually very good for me.

Vito Corleone
04-07-15, 09:53
The club is both gorgeous and the facilities are very nice. There are IPads all around and free for your use. IPads all around free to use? Wow, I can feel the juices rushing to my balls!

Delta Indigo
04-07-15, 20:10
IPads all around free to use? Wow, I can feel the juices rushing to my balls!Thank you for the disparaging remarks. Why did I point this out? Because there have been numerous complaints about Wifi not working at Aca for example. Here not only does the Wifi work but you have IPads to use, where you can check reviews about the girls at the place before you nail them.

The club does look very very very nice, I have not been to any of the Hessen clubs, but this one looks better than any other club in Germany, you have to see it for yourself to decide. I personally do not find sarcasm that witty or funny.

Danny227
04-07-15, 20:33
Hello,

I feel that this club has been much maligned, all new places tend to be. I went there for the first time yesterday, and I do have to say that the place itself is gorgeous. The layout, the decor and facilities are very very very nice and to tell you the truth I have not seen a better place in that respect anywhere else in Germany.

The club is both gorgeous and the facilities are very nice. There are IPads all around and free for your use. There is only one free dish and not unlimited food like at other places, but quite frankly since the food is made to order it is much better that way.

I walked from Dusseldorf-Rath station and it took me around 20 minutes, an easy route though.

The one thing that this new club is not up to par with is the lineup and quality of girls, the lineup at Aca during the Easter weekend was far far far better.

The best looking girl I sessioned with was Ewa from Bulgaria, beautiful body, but she is new to the game and unlike what I have read from other posters her performance level is sub standard I and far below par, I would give her a 4 out of 10 at best.

I think she is new to the game and very nervous, she did various things to kill the mood, like put her finger behind her pussy, while I was fucking her doggy style to minimize the penetration depth and told me not to touch the condom so that I could not rub my penis to make myself harder. I usually lose the mood at this point and I had, and then she said I was strange and so on. I don't know why anyone would be pleased with her performance. She is however very beautiful. I did see at least one ex Aca girl and two ex Magnum girls (I remembered them although I was at Magnum just once).

It was early on Easter Monday and maybe the lineup gets better after 19:00 when I left. But the lineup at Aca is unquestionably better and the service level at Aca is usually very good for me.Thanks for the report. So Monday before 7 pm, most clubs won't have a full LU. I would imagine that they are better closer to the end of the week. Do they have a nice outdoor? I was thinking Oase this weekend because the weather will be 20 degrees, but this might be an opportunity to check Oceans.

Vito Corleone
04-07-15, 20:39
Thank you for the disparaging remarks. Why did I point this out? Because there have been numerous complaints about Wifi not working at Aca for example. Here not only does the Wifi work but you have IPads to use, where you can check reviews about the girls at the place before you nail them.

The club does look very very very nice, I have not been to any of the Hessen clubs, but this one looks better than any other club in Germany, you have to see it for yourself to decide. I personally do not find sarcasm that witty or funny.Not much to review since the lineups are crap.

Nille Copenhagen
04-08-15, 15:05
Not much to review since the lineups are crap.Have you been there? LOL.

Vito Corleone
04-08-15, 19:01
Have you been there? LOL.No. All my friends who have visited this club rave about the facilities but mention the Lu is crap.

Nille Copenhagen
04-09-15, 00:52
No. All my friends who have visited this club rave about the facilities but mention the Lu is crap.Well they are wrong, the LU picks up quite late around 10 pm-12 pm, there are some nice German girls there.

I don't need 100 beautiful girls just a handful or 2 are fine for me.

On a FKK-tour over several days I don't mind a "slow" day with a minor LU.

Then I can save energy and "gold" for the next upcoming days. I'll schedule Oceans in the beginning or in the middle of my trip if possible.

I have other Ace-clubs with great LU to compensate if the LU at Oceans didn't do it for me, but so far was able to find girls I would session with.

Actually I know some of them from other clubs LOL.

Vito Corleone
04-09-15, 10:01
Well they are wrong, the LU picks up quite late around 10 pm-12 pm, there are some nice German girls there.

I don't need 100 beautiful girls just a handful or 2 are fine for me.

On a FKK-tour over several days I don't mind a "slow" day with a minor LU.

Then I can save energy and "gold" for the next upcoming days. I'll schedule Oceans in the beginning or in the middle of my trip if possible.

I have other Ace-clubs with great LU to compensate if the LU at Oceans didn't do it for me, but so far was able to find girls I would session with.

Actually I know some of them from other clubs LOL.That's great you like the Lu. Like Mr know it all Ortos mentioned in another thread, it's the source. Since I do not know you or the type of girls you like YMMV. These other guys I've known for many years, some 10+ years. I know their type of girls so I can get a better idea the Lu. Since most these guys visit the clubs every weekend, very picky.

Jimmy Boy 99
04-09-15, 16:52
First time here. Arrived 1:30 PM for happy hour Euro 40 price. Had breakfast in the restaurant next to the huge bar, then looked around the place. Very big main area, almost cavernous, especially with so few people around. Nice spacious wellness area; they will supposedly install a Jacuzzi in 2015 in that area.

Very few girls (max 25 or so, about 10-12 fuckable), very few customers (probably 50 all day during the 14 hours I was there). Discovered the reason for this was that they were not allowed to play music since 6 PM Thursday to 6 AM Saturday morning because of Good Friday since they were not grandfathered from this restriction because they had not been around for 5 years (as Magnum was apparently exempt because of this). Also, I was told a lot of girls had gone home for Roman Catholic Easter. Place was like a morgue the whole time I was there, the girls bored out of their minds, yakking with each other to try to pass the time. Anybody going next year at Easter time would do well to go to Magnum on Friday and Oceans on Saturday to avoid this situation, especially since Oceans had an Easter party on Saturday (which was great according to another poster) while I was told Magnum was full of girls and people on Friday, and it was relatively dead on Saturday, when I went.

After 4-5 hours of trying to digest the breakfast, I chatted with Alena (Helena? A young, pixie faced Ro brunette with nice tits and ass. Went for a session with her. Nice kissing and BJ but she wanted extra for DATY, since she didn't like getting her pussy licked. Declined the extra. Did more BJ and fucking and ended the session at 30 minutes. Very nice girl, friendly after the session (she kissed me good-bye when I was leaving as she was standing at the door waiting for her ride, and asked me to come back Saturday). Would repeat.

Second girl was Chrissy, Ro brunette, GND face, sweet personality, a little plump but still nice tits and ass. Went with her and she asked if I wanted BJ with or without condom. I said without, whereupon she said that was extra. I told her there was no way that was extra, so she proceeded to do the BJ without. Good DFK and responsive to DATY, nice to fuck doggy. Good 30 minute session, would repeat.

Third session was with Kessi, Ro brunette, tall, big natural tits, great ass, beautiful face. Had what I thought was a great hour with her a few years ago in Acapulco, but she never acknowledged my existence after that session, neither at Acapulco nor Freude 39 when it was at Herne. I saw her sitting in the restaurant and asked her if she was Kessi. She said she was, I said it was nice to see you again, and moved on. She ignored me for the next four hours until I happened to walk by and she asked me why I didn't want to fuck her. I told her you ignored me for two years and now that business is bad you want to fuck me (although she did say in the room that she had had three sessions already). It would have been poetic justice for me to have told her to go fuck herself but there was no way I was not fucking such a beautiful woman, especially for only 50 Euro, no matter how shitty her attitude had been in the past. The 30-minute session went surprisingly well, despite her new no kissing rule (apparently one year old), with good DATY and fucking. Would repeat but unlikely she would want to except in extreme circumstances.

Final girl was Micky, 1/2 Ro and Italian, brunette, slim, A tits, 32 years old but looked younger. Not usually my type but she had an interesting face and personality. I asked her if she wanted to session with me (she never asked to go to the room) and she said yes. In the room I put on my usual music program and she responded very well to the slow romantic part, with her getting obviously aroused during DATY. She went really crazy during sex, fingering her clit like mad when I was pounding her in missionary to Romanian music, and came (for real) at least once. She looked exhausted at the end of the 30 minutes but she was back in the room less than 15 minutes later with another client, a testament to the recuperative power of women.

The woman that I wanted to fuck but didn't get to fuck was Violetta, a beautiful Polish blonde I had last year in Magnum. I saw her at the bar and reminded her we had been together at Magnum, chatted for a while, and told her I would go with her when I had recovered my strength. About two hours later I saw her at the bar and went to her. We chatted a bit and then she tried to sell me on a duo with her friend Amira, calling her over to come talk to us. Since I don't usually do duos, and I didn't like her proposed duo partner's looks, I told her that I didn't want a duo because they were never as good as one imagined and also that it was a hassle to change condoms all the time, to which they replied that would not be necessary. I demurred and Amira finally sensed that it wasn't going to happen so she told Violetta to just go herself and left but Violetta said it was both of them or nothing, so I left. I don't understand why she would give up probably an hour session to insist on a duo when she went by herself with guys at least two times that I saw unless she thought I was so besotted with her that she could bully me into a duo.

PussyLiccker
04-11-15, 22:20
The woman that I wanted to fuck but didn't get to fuck was Violetta, a beautiful Polish blonde I had last year in Magnum. I saw her at the bar and reminded her we had been together at Magnum, chatted for a while, and told her I would go with her when I had recovered my strength. About two hours later I saw her at the bar and went to her. We chatted a bit and then she tried to sell me on a duo with her friend Amira, calling her over to come talk to us. Since I don't usually do duos, and I didn't like her proposed duo partner's looks, I told her that I didn't want a duo because they were never as good as one imagined and also that it was a hassle to change condoms all the time, to which they replied that would not be necessary. I demurred and Amira finally sensed that it wasn't going to happen so she told Violetta to just go herself and left but Violetta said it was both of them or nothing, so I left. I don't understand why she would give up probably an hour session to insist on a duo when she went by herself with guys at least two times that I saw unless she thought I was so besotted with her that she could bully me into a duo.
Polish Violetta I have seen at Magnum before also. Prior to that, I've seen her for the first time at PHG in 2013. Some say she's a bit crazy, and I take it to mean her humor. Late 20's to early 30's? Fit body for her age. I did like her looks although a bit older type than I usually go for. Recall her being smiley and friendly with pretty face and blue eyes. Good interaction and attitude outside and in the room. A bit more wild type in the room, but then again she likes to drink and had some alcohol in her when I took her.

It's unfortunate she pushed for duo you weren't up for. It's her loss.

RempNobbes
04-13-15, 20:55
Visited Oceans last Sunday on the orthodox easter weekend. Very few men and girls. Outside area were new sun beds and yard furniture as so a big sun umbrella and some new trees. Nice weather with sunshine made the day relaxing. Followed by a few sauna visits and dinner the day was perfect for me. More infos up to next weeekend.

Cheers.

RempNobbes.

RempNobbes
04-17-15, 19:22
In there today. Just have a look at their homepage or also at the free download APP Freier Verkehr.

Interesting change. New Happy Hour. 2 for 1 and and and more.

Cheers.

Rempnobbes.

Horny Harry
04-17-15, 21:25
In there today. Just have a look at their homepage or also at the free download APP Freier Verkehr.

Interesting change. New Happy Hour. 2 for 1 and and and more.

Cheers.

Rempnobbes.


More infos up to next weeekend.

Cheers.

RempNobbes.


Coming back soon with new messages.

Cheers.

Rempnobbes.



Just in short words my impressions from last weekend. Not much time toady to go more in detail.

Cheers.

Rempnobbes.


By the way, there is a nice roll up advertising at the reception from Oceans. Free download and very informative if you need to know something about FKK clubs in Germany. Most languages available and running on iOS and Android system. It is called Freier Verkehr and has something to do a kind of "traffic" messages. Hard to translate but you will see yourself what meaning it has. Just enjoy and have a look. The time of technology is also in the oldest business of the world not stopping. Just to say, go with the time and use your smartphone.

Cheers.

Rempnobbes.Except for advertizing apps and Ocean's homepage and describing the interior, do you have any RELEVANT information RempNobbes?

Things like; names of nice and attractive girls, line-up, zimmer experiences?


Visited Oceans last Sunday on the orthodox easter weekend. Very few men and girls. Outside area were new sun beds and yard furniture as so a big sun umbrella and some new trees. Nice weather with sunshine made the day relaxing. Followed by a few sauna visits and dinner the day was perfect for me. More infos up to next weeekend.

Cheers.

RempNobbes.

Any girls, or do you pay an entry fee in order to just to pay for food, sit in the sun and visit the sauna?

Dufey
04-19-15, 11:26
do you pay an entry fee in order to just to pay for food, sit in the sun and visit the sauna?There are a fair number of local men that come to the club to first and foremost to relax amongst the club's facilities. If the feeling takes them and a girl fits their schema then the man may book a girl for a 50 euro fling.

RempNobbes
04-19-15, 13:43
Except for advertizing apps and Ocean's homepage and describing the interior, do you have any RELEVANT information RempNobbes?

Things like; names of nice and attractive girls, line-up, zimmer experiences?


Any girls, or do you pay an entry fee in order to just to pay for food, sit in the sun and visit the sauna?More than enough. But should I share everything? There are some people outside who do like also to, know how much money they need to spend first to come into the club and what they in real get for it. So it I is better to know what are the basics costs are and if you check that, you can better decide how long and which girls you choose. This makes the big difference between people, some are thinking more girl orientated and some are interested in interior and at the end costs.

RempNobbes
04-19-15, 21:29
For those are interested or not, or to whom it concerns:

During my internet search today, I saw, that you are able to create a free entrance ticket in the "FREIER VERKEHR" App, running on Android and IOS, free download and all languages available, for Oceans, valid until end of April. Just to say, more money in your pocket and even more reports about girls, who like to write about.

Easy to use, just look for Oceans in Duesseldorf in the search field of the App and you will find the offer and a detailed description what to do exactly to get the free ticket.

A nice Sunday.

Best.

RempNobbes.

Vompat
04-23-15, 07:21
I visited Oceans 3 times in the messe weekend, Saturday afternoon and night, and Sunday midday.

I think it is well organised, line up was strong, best food than I have had in any clubs (I liked also that you can buy glass of quality wine).

Sauna department was good, kino was good (I like to do it in kino).

Free beer is missing but for the other positives I am willing to pay 20-30 € for my beers.

Also the location nearer to the center is good thing for me.

Sirioja
04-24-15, 10:08
I visited Oceans 3 times in the messe weekend, Saturday afternoon and night, and Sunday midday.

I think it is well organised, line up was strong, best food than I have had in any clubs (I liked also that you can buy glass of quality wine).

Sauna department was good, kino was good (I like to do it in kino).

Free beer is missing but for the other positives I am willing to pay 20-30 for my beers.

Also the location nearer to the center is good thing for me.Are there new pretty girls or only girls working before in other NRW clubs? At what time attractive girls if there are, arrive?

RempNobbes
04-24-15, 16:59
I visited Oceans 3 times in the messe weekend, Saturday afternoon and night, and Sunday midday.

I think it is well organised, line up was strong, best food than I have had in any clubs (I liked also that you can buy glass of quality wine).

Sauna department was good, kino was good (I like to do it in kino).

Free beer is missing but for the other positives I am willing to pay 20-30 for my beers


Also the location nearer to the center is good thing for me.You can get free beer if you come in with the free entrance ticket from the App Freier Verkehr. Download the free App and create under offers your personal entrance code. That is it. Easy and in your language. Between Sunday and Thursday valid. On this days free beer until 7 pm. What else do you want?

Cheers.

Samplerr
04-24-15, 18:04
You can get free beer if you come in with the free entrance ticket from the App Freier Verkehr. Download the free App and create under offers your personal entrance code. That is it. Easy and in your language. Between Sunday and Thursday valid. On this days free beer until 7 pm. What else do you want?
Cheers.It's well know that this is a dodgy app as per previous warnings on this forum.

Willi69
04-25-15, 12:35
You can get free beer if you come in with the free entrance ticket from the App Freier Verkehr.


It's well know that this is a dodgy app as per previous warnings on this forum.There are some rumors / errors:

First: Until 7 o'clock pm beer is free for all people now. See the current banner:

http://fkk-oceans.de/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/mega_happy_hour1.jpg

Second: FV App is not evil. It uses GPS to locate the clubs around you. If you don't want this turn off GPS generally on your smartphone. FV App works also offline. For this reason, the current database is downloaded to your smartphone at every new start. Except the pictures. FV App can be very useful for people who are not familiar with the clubs in Europe. If you know all the clubs or visit always the same club (s) you can pass the App. Except you want to be informed about all events in all clubs for the next weeks. Or you want to benefit from the offers listed in FV App.

Jerboa
04-28-15, 00:14
I was in Dus a couple of weeks ago, and thought I'd try Oceans, it's not a genuine FKK, as no girls are naked, normal entry is €65, but they do a discount if you come before 2 pm, so I only paid €40 but the reception asked me if I'd come by taxi, if I'd said yes they'd of charged me €30 extra! This is outrageous to charge customers for taxi commission, many clubs do pay commissions, but it always comes out of their own pocket.

As for the club itself, fairly large, good facilities, large bar / lounge room, free bier till 19 h, wellness area with large sauna and steam room, they just need a swimming pool and jacuzzi.

Girls, I got there at midday, so not a large selection, but one still led me into the porn kino, the girls approached me like at a Hessen club, and prices are also Hessen rates of €50 for first 30 then another €50 for second 30.

I popped out at 4 pm to check in to a nearby hotel, returned to the club at 7 pm, the receptionist remembered me, got changed and went to the bar, more girls had arrived, I counted around 40-50 girls, and there were some lookers too, I was deciding who to session with first, a petite blonde MILF Slovak called Kim had tried to tempt me earlier, said she only worked there at the weekend, and works in a office weekdays, nice girl, so was hoping for a good session, we got a room and she says we should go to shower, cynical me just thought that was time wasting to cut 10 minutes off the room time, we did share the shower and it was fun, but back in the room she only does covered oral, and when I shagged her she did the pet hate of mine of holding on to my cock to check the condom hasn't broken. Nice enough lady, but she's got to improve on her service.

I wasn't in to much of a rush to session again, there were plenty of choice, but I was to lazy to bother. You noticed that the hotter girls in the club don't usually approach guys, this is because guys always approach them, one such girl called Mona had the Brigitte Nielsson look, cropped hair with blonde on top, and fairly tall, good looking girl from Romania, first impression was she is ice cold, I thought about not going with her, but I soon got her laughing on the couch, which is a good sign, had to wait half hour for a room, as club was busy, did 30 mins with Mona, covered oral again, but wasn't bad, sex was good, she encouraged me to cum and took a good pounding, was unsure if I'd cum again, but managed to do so with Mona.

It was about 3 am by this point, the girls told me on a weekend they must stay till 7 am, I understand why the club wants them to remain, but I thought the chance of a good session with a tired girl would be slim, and my hotel bed was calling, so got a taxi back, be&be hotel is handy for the club, €49 a night, and 5-10 mins walk to Oceans.

As for Oceans, in general I was impressed by the layout, and facilities, I think the boss has followed Palace in a similar layout, and had managed to recruit many girls from other clubs, as at the moment I think it's still free entry for them. They just need a pool and jacuzzi out the back, and to quit with the stupid taxi charge, I only paid 40, but this doesn't include dinner, I ordered some dinner and when I left had to pay 15 for it.

Jimmy Boy 99
04-28-15, 02:41
They just need a pool and jacuzzi out the back, and to quit with the stupid taxi charge, I only paid 40, but this doesn't include dinner, I ordered some dinner and when I left had to pay 15 for it.There are two or three set meals to choose from which are included in the entry. There is also an a la carte menu with prices for the various dishes.

RempNobbes
04-28-15, 12:21
[QUOTE=Jerboa;1713322]I was in Dus a couple of weeks ago, and thought I'd try Oceans, it's not a genuine FKK, as no girls are naked, normal entry is 65, but they do a discount if you come before 2 pm, so I only paid 40 but the reception asked me if I'd come by taxi, if I'd said yes they'd of charged me 30 extra! This is outrageous to charge customers for taxi commission, many clubs do pay commissions, but it always comes out of their own pocket.

As for the club itself, fairly large, good facilities, large bar / lounge room, free bier till 19 h, wellness area with large sauna and steam room, they just need a swimming pool and jacuzzi.


As for Oceans, in general I was impressed by the layout, and facilities, I think the boss has followed Palace in a similar layout, and had managed to recruit many girls from other clubs, as at the moment I think it's still free entry for them. They just need a pool and jacuzzi out the back, and to quit with the stupid taxi charge, I only paid 40, but this doesn't include dinner, I ordered some dinner and when I left had to pay 15


To get rid of the taxi costs, tell the taxi driver you stay in the B&B hotel. Only 5 minutes walk. So you we not charged with extra costs. And also tell the reception you are staying at B&B hotel. No discussion comes on.

Have fun.

Nille Copenhagen
04-28-15, 13:34
To get rid of the taxi costs, tell the taxi driver you stay in the B&B hotel. Only 5 minutes walk. So you we not charged with extra costs. And also tell the reception you are staying at B&B hotel. No discussion comes on.

Have fun.If you arrived in the taxi do the taxi-driver go in with you and collect his fee?

They do that in Palace, but here the club pays not you!

XXL
04-30-15, 08:24
My FKK outing could've ended before it began as I nearly burnt my cock in Van der Valk Airport Hotel's crappy shower. Luckily my foreskin was back in place when it happened. This settles the debate about circumcision, foreskins do offer some protection, if only against Van der Valk's homicidal showers.

At Oceans' an austere receptionist gave me the house rule lecture for first-timers but she did so in what was for my diminished hearing a inaudible whisper. That's when I must've missed some crucial points about food arrangements. As far as I could make out (no girl seemed to know for sure) one free dish is included in the cover charge, what you order after that is extra. Unlike at Sharks' or Oase's where eating time is a good opportunity to peep at girls and make eye contact, here the atmosphere was uncongenial, everyone keeping to themselves, girls deep in their iPhones.

The outdoor still had sand heaps and loose tiles but I'm not sure it will look up to much when it's finished.

I backed off from the steam bath because of the musty / pissy smell and went to the dry sauna where a repair man was tinkering at the door.

The huge sparsely lit hall where girls and customers were supposed to mingle felt surreal. Was it because of the mismatch between the pharaonic dimensions and the very average line-up? On their website Oceans have a spiel about working together with "political circles" to prevent h*u*m*a*n t*r*a*f*f*i*c*k*i*n*g], la-di-da. There's even talk of a social worker on the premises! This BS is tantamount to implying the FKK sector is rife with HT. If you can't compete, accuse your competitors of trafficking and with luck by the time the next new prostitution law comes along you'll be ideally positioned. I hope it doesn't pan out.

Danny227
04-30-15, 09:47
My FKK outing could've ended before it began as I nearly burnt my cock in Van der Valk Airport Hotel's crappy shower. Luckily my foreskin was back in place when it happened. This settles the debate about circumcision, foreskins do offer some protection, if only against Van der Valk's homicidal showers.

At Oceans' an austere receptionist gave me the house rule lecture for first-timers but she did so in what was for my diminished hearing a inaudible whisper. That's when I must've missed some crucial points about food arrangements. As far as I could make out (no girl seemed to know for sure) one free dish is included in the cover charge, what you order after that is extra. Unlike at Sharks' or Oase's where eating time is a good opportunity to peep at girls and make eye contact, here the atmosphere was uncongenial, everyone keeping to themselves, girls deep in their iPhones.

The outdoor still had sand heaps and loose tiles but I'm not sure it will look up to much when it's finished.

I backed off from the steam bath because of the musty / pissy smell and went to the dry sauna where a repair man was tinkering at the door...Thanks for the report! That concludes my thoughts of visiting that establishment.

Amended
04-30-15, 12:32
This settles the debate about circumcision, foreskins do offer some protection.LOL yes the foreskin's role as a protective sheath against the elements should not be understated.

Sirioja
04-30-15, 13:49
Thanks for the report! That concludes my thoughts of visiting that establishment.Before, compare Oceans casting to Hessen, I think you will find in Oceans the mothers of the girls in Hessen, girls who worked in all NRW clubs before, but I may mistake.

Jerboa
04-30-15, 21:48
My FKK outing could've ended before it began as I nearly burnt my cock in Van der Valk Airport Hotel's crappy shower. Luckily my foreskin was back in place when it happened. This settles the debate about circumcision, foreskins do offer some protection, if only against Van der Valk's homicidal showers.

At Oceans' an austere receptionist gave me the house rule lecture for first-timers but she did so in what was for my diminished hearing a inaudible whisper. That's when I must've missed some crucial points about food arrangements. As far as I could make out (no girl seemed to know for sure) one free dish is included in the cover charge, what you order after that is extra. Unlike at Sharks' or Oase's where eating time is a good opportunity to peep at girls and make eye contact, here the atmosphere was uncongenial, everyone keeping to themselves, girls deep in their iPhones.

The outdoor still had sand heaps and loose tiles but I'm not sure it will look up to much when it's finished.

I backed off from the steam bath because of the musty / pissy smell and went to the dry sauna where a repair man was tinkering at the door.

The huge sparsely lit hall where girls and customers were supposed to mingle felt surreal. Was it because of the mismatch between the pharaonic dimensions and the very average line-up? On their website Oceans have a spiel about working together with "political circles" to prevent h*u*m*a*n t*r*a*f*f*i*c*k*i*n*g], la-di-da. There's even talk of a social worker on the premises! This BS is tantamount to implying the FKK sector is rife with HT. If you can't compete, accuse your competitors of trafficking and with luck by the time the next new prostitution law comes along you'll be ideally positioned. I hope it doesn't pan out.So you didn't find Ocean to your liking, what time of day did you go? When I was there on a Friday the afternoon was quiet, but by the evening there was a good selection of girls, did you not see any girl you wanted to session with?

PussyLiccker
05-01-15, 05:07
Before, compare Oceans casting to Hessen, I think you will find in Oceans the mothers of the girls in Hessen, girls who worked in all NRW clubs before, but I may mistake.Same I noticed in YY, and also the newer girls I spot at GT regarding spotting girls from other clubs. This means I've been around too many clubs at the NRW. My first visit to YY, I saw more girls from other clubs such at GT, Magnum, and ACA. Second visit less so. But, when the place attracts lots of girls, they probably get pulled from other clubs. Given Oceans is fairly new, it would most likely pull girls from other clubs as well. Wouldn't be surprised if Mondial girls would leave that dump for this place. LOL. My earlier visits were when the free entry was offered for girls before NY's (not sure if still being offered), and I've seen some girls from ACA, Samya, and Palce. The girls from ACA and Samya are ones were either I didn't find attractive or I had a bad session. Also one average session with a girl there last visit. Also, I didn't find the management on the same level as GT, LR, or Samya.

Some of the names I know already too, like Pol Violetta(ex PHG, Magnum) and Bul Bonnie ex-DV (who I've seen at YY also).

Perhaps things have changed since my visit months ago. Go and check it out for us. LOL. Scratch the curiosity.

Amended
05-01-15, 06:40
Visited about 2-3 weeks ago. Walked from Dusseldorf-Rath S-bahn, about 1. 5 km. Many construction workers in front of the place so my entry wasn't exactly discreet. Receptionist was friendly. Asked if I came by taxi or car, presumably for that taxi fee mentioned here. Found my answer "on foot" funny for some reason. Wristband key is digital. The lockers at the end of the locker room had a numerical keypad that I couldn't figure out but the ones closer to the door had the same touchpad like at Living Room.

Main bar area is large and has a small open kitchen cafeteria attached. Get this, only one plate of food included with entrance fee. What! Unacceptable. Half the fun of these places for me is getting to pig out on demand. There's a menu with 5 options and I was told only 4 were available. You sit down and a waitress tends to you though which is nice. I think I chose a paprika chicken or something with fries.

Went to the bar to order a water and coffee. First the bartender brought me three waters. I said no no just one. So she took away the other two. Then she made me three coffees. Again I laughed and said no I just want one. She stared at me pissed off and said "I don't speak English" and turned away. LOL. No idea how that miscommunication happened.

Past the bar area is the relaxation / sauna area with a few couches. There was a slim Brazilian masseuse who offered me a massage with HJ or maybe BJ. She was dancing on the main stage later to Brazilian music in Carnival garb. Then you can continue outside where there are a few lounge chairs on a platform surrounded by sand. Because we're at the ocean, you see. I laid down my towel on the sand to lie down on it since the few lounge chairs were taken. Not very comfortable since it's like a small layer of sand under rock. But the weather was nice.

It was quiet when I arrived around 4 pm but bar area filled up in the evening. I took off my robe because it was hot but one of the staff came up to me and very politely told me the management requires robe to be worn. So just a towel is not allowed for the men at the bar for some reason. I took:

1. Unknown name (Italy?, 20? ): Tall young girl who caught my eye at the bar. Pretty sure she said Italy and she didn't really look Romanian but who knows. Gave a great BBBJ that she didn't stop giving and I didn't stop her from giving it. After 15-20 minutes she was like "only blowjob?" Haha ok let's do this, went at it missionary and then had her assume the position for doggy. Surprisingly she had a ring of hair around her booty hole WTF. Whatever, I smushed the ass cheeks together and continued at it. She must have been hot anyway because I came which is not always a given for me. She went down with her stomach on the mattress and bent her legs to pull me deeper into her. Yum. She was passive overall but (most) visuals were good.

The lineup otherwise wasn't really to my taste and the food situation sucked. So I'm not in a hurry to go back. But Oceans was ok.

Sirioja
05-01-15, 09:46
Same I noticed in YY, and also the newer girls I spot at GT regarding spotting girls from other clubs. This means I've been around too many clubs at the NRW. My first visit to YY, I saw more girls from other clubs such at GT, Magnum, and ACA. Second visit less so. But, when the place attracts lots of girls, they probably get pulled from other clubs. Given Oceans is fairly new, it would most likely pull girls from other clubs as well. Wouldn't be surprised if Mondial girls would leave that dump for this place. LOL. My earlier visits were when the free entry was offered for girls before NY's (not sure if still being offered), and I've seen some girls from ACA, Samya, and Palce. The girls from ACA and Samya are ones were either I didn't find attractive or I had a bad session. Also one average session with a girl there last visit. Also, I didn't find the management on the same level as GT, LR, or Samya.

Some of the names I know already too, like Pol Violetta(ex PHG, Magnum) and Bul Bonnie ex-DV (who I've seen at YY also).

Perhaps things have changed since my visit months ago. Go and check it out for us. LOL. Scratch the curiosity.Castings are mostly quite low at the moment in NRW, I don't plan to return to YY even Lara seems to be attractive?

Many men prefer to have sex with GND and think pretty girls will not provide good services, just because they are not self confident enough, I m not interested to have sex even gratis with a girl I don't find attractive, I pay for dream, not for hygienic sex.

Oceans is a beautiful club even no jacuzzi and swimming pool, but what about girls? Which is the most important for me.

RempNobbes
05-01-15, 13:43
My FKK outing could've ended before it began as I nearly burnt my cock in Van der Valk Airport Hotel's crappy shower. Luckily my foreskin was back in place when it happened. This settles the debate about circumcision, foreskins do offer some protection, if only against Van der Valk's homicidal showers.

At Oceans' an austere receptionist gave me the house rule lecture for first-timers but she did so in what was for my diminished hearing a inaudible whisper. That's when I must've missed some crucial points about food arrangements. As far as I could make out (no girl seemed to know for sure) one free dish is included in the cover charge, what you order after that is extra. Unlike at Sharks' or Oase's where eating time is a good opportunity to peep at girls and make eye contact, here the atmosphere was uncongenial, everyone keeping to themselves, girls deep in their iPhones.

The outdoor still had sand heaps and loose tiles but I'm not sure it will look up to much when it's finished.

I backed off from the steam bath because of the musty / pissy smell and went to the dry sauna where a repair man was tinkering at the door.

The huge sparsely lit hall where girls and customers were supposed to mingle felt surreal. Was it because of the mismatch between the pharaonic dimensions and the very average line-up? On their website Oceans have a spiel about working together with "political circles" to prevent h*u*m*a*n t*r*a*f*f*i*c*k*i*n*g], la-di-da. There's even talk of a social worker on the premises! This BS is tantamount to implying the FKK sector is rife with HT. If you can't compete, accuse your competitors of trafficking and with luck by the time the next new prostitution law comes along you'll be ideally positioned. I hope it doesn't pan out.

Who is going to Van Der Valk Hotel DUS Airport, when you read carful the forum thread here. I am frequent traveling to DUS and chooses it one time during a Messe and never ever in my live and paid much money. Could better use it for the girls. The B&B hotel is comfortable and proper and clean for 49 Euro and in a walking distance of Oceans. If you want to visit other clubs like DV or MGM or or or .....You can easily use a taxi or the s-bahn. Also in walking distance.

Concerning your experience within Oceans, what time have you been there? I was yesterday there around 6 pm and it was very very quite. A few girls and men around. Even while we do have a national free day in Germany today. It is Maifeiertag. But around 10 pm the bar room was crowed, with more men than girls. But the line up was quite good. They do have a new shift coming in at 11 pm because of the opening time to 7 am in the morning. So, I saw also new girls coming in after 11 pm. Not usual and comparable with other well known FKK clubs around. When I left around 2 am at least a group of 10 Japanese people came in and at the reception it took me a while to check out, because there where 4 Russian speaking men getting the explanation of the house in English.

And yes. I smelt also a pissi smell in the steam room but brought that right away to the reception and they cleaned the steam room direct and it was gone. So, if no one does talk or say something to the reception, they do not have the chance to interact. And they do well. I know that.

What else should I say. Like I wrote in the other reports. It's every time a question of taste and timing and individuality.

Hope to see someone around following weekend.

Cheers.

Nille Copenhagen
05-01-15, 17:10
Who is going to Van Der Valk Hotel DUS Airport, when you read carful the forum thread here. I am frequent traveling to DUS and chooses it one time during a Messe and never ever in my live and paid much money. Could better use it for the girls. The B&B hotel is comfortable and proper and clean for 49 Euro and in a walking distance of Oceans. If you want to visit other clubs like DV or MGM or or or .....You can easily use a taxi or the s-bahn. Also in walking distance.

Concerning your experience within Oceans, what time have you been there? I was yesterday there around 6 pm and it was very very quite. A few girls and men around. Even while we do have a national free day in Germany today. It is Maifeiertag. But around 10 pm the bar room was crowed, with more men than girls. But the line up was quite good. They do have a new shift coming in at 11 pm because of the opening time to 7 am in the morning. So, I saw also new girls coming in after 11 pm. Not usual and comparable with other well known FKK clubs around. When I left around 2 am at least a group of 10 Japanese people came in and at the reception it took me a while to check out, because there where 4 Russian speaking men getting the explanation of the house in English...It is always easier to get home and complain here on ISG than take action in the club, I thing our friend here got the wrong food out of the bad and got his dick burned so his pissed all day.

I know Oceans is a nightclub, there the atmosphere and action is best after 10 PM, I also saw new girls arriving after 11-12 pm.

But it's weird that some guys pay to keep their normal clothes on in the club.

Willi69
05-02-15, 11:06
For those are interested or not, or to whom it concerns:

During my internet search today, I saw, that you are able to create a free entrance ticket in the "FREIER VERKEHR" App, running on Android and IOS, free download and all languages available, for Oceans, valid until end of April. Just to say, more money in your pocket and even more reports about girls, who like to write about.

Easy to use, just look for Oceans in Duesseldorf in the search field of the App and you will find the offer and a detailed description what to do exactly to get the free ticket.In view of the big success, this offer is now valid until May 14.
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PussyLiccker
05-02-15, 21:44
I am frequent traveling to DUS and chooses it one time during a Messe and never ever in my live and paid much money. Could better use it for the girls. The B&B hotel is comfortable and proper and clean for 49 Euro and in a walking distance of Oceans. If you want to visit other clubs like DV or MGM or or or .....You can easily use a taxi or the s-bahn. Also in walking distance.
Remp, as frequently as you post about the facilities, and etc. about Oceans, there must a good reason you'd choose this club as the clubs to visit over the others in the area. Are there any other clubs you attend within the vicinity? Can you do a comparison leaving out the facilities aspect to others clubs in the area? The girls? Is it a convenient location for you?

RempNobbes
05-07-15, 22:12
Remp, as frequently as you post about the facilities, and etc. about Oceans, there must a good reason you'd choose this club as the clubs to visit over the others in the area. Are there any other clubs you attend within the vicinity? Can you do a comparison leaving out the facilities aspect to others clubs in the area? The girls? Is it a convenient location for you?For those, are not reading all threads in the forum. See also my reports about Artemis in Berlin as one example. BTW, next weekend is Oceans time for me. It could be happen, in our FKK club live, that one club becomes the "only one" and preferred one club. That does also have sometimes to do with a distance (driving distance) from where you are living, or not? Just a economic question. Cheers RM.

Jerboa
05-08-15, 15:54
In view of the big success, this offer is now valid until May 14.
.That's good, but I wonder if meals are included in free entry, not so bad if you only go for a couple of hours.

Willi69
05-08-15, 17:29
That's good, but I wonder if meals are included in free entry, not so bad if you only go for a couple of hours.Only breakfast, soft drinks and beer (until 19:00), no lunch. Prices for lunch start at 10 .

Simex
05-09-15, 00:08
Hugely disappointed with the Oceans lineup on Sunday, the best looking ones were ex-ACAP girls (Lucy, Marina and her younger sister) Service level from the ex-ACAP girls were terrible, Oceans management really need to do something before it turns into FKK Palace.

Girls were telling me they prefer champagne swigging guys who would spend hundreds on the sofa in drinks and only "last" 10 minutes in the rooms.

Went to Samya on Sunday, Oceans in Evening and GT on Monday. GT lineup was Oceans apart from Oceans and Samya. You ask any GT girls why they don't go to Oceans, and their answers are mainly the Gangsta type clienteles at Oceans.

65 for entry with 1 free paltry main course of pasta or chicken rice and free soft drinks only.