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I disagree with your math. It assumes too much likelihood of transmission in my opinion.
The math is for exposure to other people in a chain. If one man with COVID DFKs a woman and then you DFK with her, that is a exposure to COVID. I believe Jalimon said that a session is one on one and low risk. That doesn't make much sense to me.
As I have said here, the risks are very low for most of the population. In fact, some of us could be asymptomatic ourselves.
But the one who are serious about it, who like sex as much as money, it can be really good.If you are good-looking and / or charming, perhaps they are thinking of only you during the session. Unfortunately when they are with me, they are thinking of being with Jalimon. :(
Mighty Spearsman
06-05-20, 18:03
...Strangely, within 24 hours of my posting that I had enjoyed reading Nala of escortsxo dot com's Twitter account (information that is posted on her escortsxo web page), she changed the setting on her account to Private and her profile photo from a recent full-body photo with her face partially blurred to a photo that only shows her mid-torso. Coincidence? Or did I accidentally scare her off?I posted the above yesterday. This morning, I checked Twitter and lo and behold, Nala Baez's Twitter account is no longer private (although the profile photo still shows an older, mid-torso-only image). Coincidence? Or does Nala read ISG?
I can't speak for Canada, but here in the US I know of many SWs who regularly read USA SG, ISG and other boards to see what's being said about them. A couple of them are even members themselves. A female provider in Hong Kong used to write some of the most informative posts on ISG's Hong Kong page (not sure if she's still posting).
Still looking forward to seeing Nala in Montreal once the border re-opens to tourists; hopefully, she won't move to Toronto for the summer like she did last year.
I posted the above yesterday. This morning, I checked Twitter and lo and behold, Nala Baez's Twitter account is no longer private (although the profile photo still shows an older, mid-torso-only image). Coincidence? Or does Nala read ISG?
I can't speak for Canada, but here in the US I know of many SWs who regularly read USA SG, ISG and other boards to see what's being said about them. A couple of them are even members themselves. A female provider in Hong Kong used to write some of the most informative posts on ISG's Hong Kong page (not sure if she's still posting).
Still looking forward to seeing Nala in Montreal once the border re-opens to tourists; hopefully, she won't move to Toronto for the summer like she did last year.ISG is not that popular in Montreal. I think some of our local participants like Jalimon and Cloudsurf came over because they heard they were being mentioned.
Nala Baez is a buxomous spinner who has been around for a few years. I believe she was with the now defunct agency Mike's Mansion. She seems to post revealing photos on and off. I seem to remember one time she posted a facial shot. I could be wrong. In any event, many of the escorts alternate between very revealing shots and less revealing shots. Who knows why? Perhaps, they have a mood where they feel private. Maybe they post revealing shots to gin up business.
The math is for exposure to other people in a chain. If one man with COVID DFKs a woman and then you DFK with her, that is a exposure to COVID. I believe Jalimon said that a session is one on one and low risk. That doesn't make much sense to me.
As I have said here, the risks are very low for most of the population. In fact, some of us could be asymptomatic ourselves.I still say the risk are very low in a one on one session. The chance of you or the girl to be infected are very low because there is only 2 people in the room. When there is much more like a restaurant, subway, etc. The risk increase by 10 fold. Remember this virus fly in the air quite long time. It's not and std.
But I did wrote that if one of the 2 is affected by the virus (of course asympomaticaly if not he / she would not be there!) then you are screwed. DFK or not does not matter. Spending 1 h in a closed area with someone infected will do it and get you infected.
If you are good-looking and / or charming, perhaps they are thinking of only you during the session. Unfortunately when they are with me, they are thinking of being with Jalimon.In life I love people with sarcasm and humility. You nailed it here haha.
Cheers.
Member #4665
06-05-20, 20:58
If you are good-looking and / or charming, perhaps they are thinking of only you during the session. Unfortunately when they are with me, they are thinking of being with Jalimon. :(Yes one time I was with one of the girls and of course I'm just a client, she was saying she was my friend too, we should hang out sometime, all those sweet things she was telling me, and then when she started moaning she said " oh jalimon" instead of "oh and "my real name.""
The math is for exposure to other people in a chain. If one man with COVID DFKs a woman and then you DFK with her, that is a exposure to COVID. I believe Jalimon said that a session is one on one and low risk. That doesn't make much sense to me.
As I have said here, the risks are very low for most of the population. In fact, some of us could be asymptomatic ourselves.I think what he meant was that because it is one on one and not in a group setting like a club or concert where you are exposed to many people that may be carriers the risk is low.
However if she has the virus at the infectious stage your chance of getting it is probably 100% whether you DFK or not as you are up close and personal for an hour or more.
Mighty Spearsman
06-05-20, 22:54
ISG is not that popular in Montreal. I think some of our local participants like Jalimon and Cloudsurf came over because they heard they were being mentioned.
Nala Baez is a buxomous spinner who has been around for a few years. I believe she was with the now defunct agency Mike's Mansion. She seems to post revealing photos on and off. I seem to remember one time she posted a facial shot. I could be wrong. In any event, many of the escorts alternate between very revealing shots and less revealing shots. Who knows why? Perhaps, they have a mood where they feel private. Maybe they post revealing shots to gin up business.Buxomous is right! It's hard to believe that someone as tiny as Nala has boobs as big as she does, especially since they appear to be all natural.
I was being a little facetious in my last post, I seriously doubt if Nala is trolling the Internet all day to see if her name has been mentioned, especially since she's just re-started working this past Monday.
But she does work through an agency escortsxo dot com that features 48 ladies on their website, so I wouldn't be surprised that one of that agency's employees reviews the Internet for comments on their employees. Perhaps someone from the agency noticed my post and told Nala to re-open her Twitter account.
Wyatt, you are also correct in pointing out that escorts alternate between revealing and non-revealing shots. This includes Nala although I have yet to discover a full facial shot of her. Interestingly, someone named Dasha Ivanov also works for escortsxo and has her face blurred out on that web site, but Dasha has a Twitter account that shows her full face all the time and also posts totally revealing crotch and rear photos that look like they could have been taken from one of the video porn web sites.
HarvestBoi
06-06-20, 03:50
I can confirm that many escorts in MTL read ISG. Remember some girls can't stomach reading reviews, though. This is understandable, imagine what they would say about us!
I have a story which I will relate soon about why I know that the provider network's knowledge about ISG is bigger than you think.
ISG is not that popular in Montreal. I think some of our local participants like Jalimon and Cloudsurf came over because they heard they were being .
By July's end when all the working girls finally come back, I expect price raises from almost every escort out there.
Agency rates will likely be $250 for all with stars at 270 or 280. And there won't be an indy in sight on merb lower than $300 hour.
A lot of john's may find themselves essentially forced out of pay for play, or searching for alternatives. It is going to be an interesting year from a sociological stand point. Hell, I guess it has already.
I can confirm that many escorts in MTL read ISG. Remember some girls can't stomach reading reviews, though. This is understandable, imagine what they would say about us!
I have a story which I will relate soon about why I know that the provider network's knowledge about ISG is bigger than you think.Perhaps that has changed. The ISG Montreal forum was very quiet about two years ago. It started heating up and a few members, Mongerer88 especially, helped get it going. I remember some on the local board were like "what is this ISG I hear about?" That is when we got Jalimon and Cloudsurf to join in.
ISG is great place to pose questions and have open discussions about specific escorts.
Perhaps that has changed. The ISG Montreal forum was very quiet about two years ago. It started heating up and a few members, Mongerer88 especially, helped get it going. I remember some on the local board were like "what is this ISG I hear about?" That is when we got Jalimon and Cloudsurf to join in.
ISG is great place to pose questions and have open discussions about specific escorts.And from now on I will only report here. I need to be open and honest I was banned on the local board. Long story but, like I try to do often, I used a sarcastic sentence that users and mods there did not catch. My fault. Life goes on.
So do not hesitate to ask question. After 5 years of regular encounters (3-4 per months) I kind of learned a bit about the Montreal scene.
Cheers!
Member #4665
06-06-20, 21:36
By July's end when all the working girls finally come back, I expect price raises from almost every escort out there.
Agency rates will likely be $250 for all with stars at 270 or 280. And there won't be an indy in sight on merb lower than $300 hour.
A lot of john's may find themselves essentially forced out of pay for play, or searching for alternatives. It is going to be an interesting year from a sociological stand point. Hell, I guess it has already.Really, why would the prices increase? Practically everyone has been out of work. Would they have spare money to pay more? Plus the few girls who don't raise their prices they will probably get all the customers who don't see it necessary to pay more.
And from now on I will only report here. I need to be open and honest I was banned on the local board. Long story but, like I try to do often, I used a sarcastic sentence that users and mods there did not catch. My fault. Life goes on.
So do not hesitate to ask question. After 5 years of regular encounters (3-4 per months) I kind of learned a bit about the Montreal scene.
Cheers!Like you I was banned on the green board also for shilling of all things for someone who had stopped working 2 weeks before, so it seems you cannot say nice things about someone who deserves it.
Mods on that board seem to think they are homicide detectives and it has gone to their head.
I have never been a shill, I can afford to see whoever I want to see luckily.
Doesn't really matter I have my contacts of Indies who I can use as a reference and they even recommend their friends if you are looking for a service that they don't provide.
I don't need to write reviews just as easy to send the SP a thank you email, which I do anyway if you enjoyed your time and if not then you just don't repeat with them.
Anyway it seems the key agencies are back on and have minimal increases for now $20-$30 HR.
Some of the indies have increased by $50-$100 per hour and have set minimum 90 min to 2 HR sessions and for now with only their regulars to start out with.
We will see how that plays out.
GFE is still being offered as before with some additional hygiene requirements and questions about your health and some have put age restrictions not wanting to see guys in a vulnerable age group.
Really, why would the prices increase? Practically everyone has been out of work. Would they have spare money to pay more? Plus the few girls who don't raise their prices they will probably get all the customers who don't see it necessary to pay more.Healthworkers and people in specific industries were indeed displaced, but most of those will have their jobs back eventually. The majority of those who were out of work were poor people. And Sp don't care about them. Granted, I'm sure some people have taken a hit in the stock market or thereabouts, but not enough to be unable to afford mongering. All in all, I imagine they are raising rates for the same reason they always do. Opportunity.
-Johns have been deprived for months.
-Regulars are addicted.
-No girls hate more money.
-The risk of death from covid for 20's is basically non existent. However, I think its been suggested even asymptomatic people will have long term respiratory damage. Increased health risk are thus a concern.
-The world is in chaos. In times of uncertainty, I believe people want stability and safety more than ever. If this means paying a but more to seehave a hassle free GFE, it will be justifiable, albeit not wanted.
Given the above, it seems like there is no better time to jack up prices than right now. Besides, if raised prices fail to garner the amount of wanted business, it's simple enough for the indy to reduce them anew. I suspect many will be forced to implement "specials" at some point, whereas others might bow out entirely. I'm not sure the agencies can as easiky reduce their prices. In any event, I gurantee there will be an overflow of girls in the months to come. It remains to be seen what, if any influence the border being closed, and a chunk of the girls business via tours and travels being gone does.
For you visiting travelers, I think it may well be a superior scene to what it was whe the dust settles. Better service and attitudes all around. And unlike us locals, I doubt the price increase hurts the same. It's a big increase!
-The risk of death from covid for 20's is basically non existent. However, I think its been suggested even asymptomatic people will have long term respiratory damage. Increased health risk are thus a concern.I always thought any serious cough and / or pneumonia caused respiratory damage. I am skeptical to a degree because the media and some other forces have really sold hard the idea that we are all in danger. So much has been proven wrong.
In any event if you are saying the price increases and the escort scene are in a state of flux, yes absolutely. It will be in a state of flux for awhile. When a solid treatment is determined or a vaccine developed or the virus dies out (seems unlikely), the scene will go through another adjustment.
Like you I was banned on the green board also for shilling of all things for someone who had stopped working 2 weeks before, so it seems you cannot say nice things about someone who deserves it.
Mods on that board seem to think they are homicide detectives and it has gone to their head.They are very goofy blokes. I'm guessing if you met them, they are odd, insular and way to serious about their role. They do not like feedback. If you try to question them about the moderating in a polite way, they will penalize you for that and target you beyond that.
ISG mods are generally cool. No issues here.
For you visiting travelers, I think it may well be a superior scene to what it was whe the dust settles. Better service and attitudes all around. And unlike us locals, I doubt the price increase hurts the same. It's a big increase!True! And for US citizen 100 $ US is as of today 134 $ CDN (pretty good discount).
The biggest game changer in the Montreal scene for the past year or so is Twitter. Even for some agency girl many now have a presence on Twitter. The latest agency girl I have seen (back in January / February) the session and booking was made directly via twitter. It's a nice way to prepare the session and get a good real view of the girl (much better then photoshop agency pics.).
DethManRulz
06-08-20, 18:24
I need to be open and honest I was banned on the local board. Long story but, like I try to do often, I used a sarcastic sentence that users and mods there did not catch. My fault.
No, it's not your fault. The mods there are total goofs. They have no idea how to properly moderate a message board, and think they have to police everything down to the smallest detail. Even inventing reasons. I've never seen anything like it. I exist over there under a different name (TheSavoySuit). I use it mostly as a resource, and a place to get a good laugh from reading posts by some of the semi-retarded Trump super-supporters.
HarvestBoi
06-08-20, 20:36
Does anybody think the green board mods read this thread? I wouldn't be shocked.
No, it's not your fault. The mods there are total goofs. They have no idea how to properly moderate a message board, and think they have to police everything down to the smallest detail. Even inventing reasons. I've never seen anything like it. I exist over there under a different name (TheSavoySuit). I use it mostly as a resource, and a place to get a good laugh from reading posts by some of the semi-retarded Trump super-supporters.
Does anybody think the green board mods read this thread? I wouldn't be shocked.I would reckon. They ain't at all happy we out here talkin'. You boys best be careful when you're in their town. They the law over the border and don't you boys forget it.
No, it's not your fault. The mods there are total goofs. They have no idea how to properly moderate a message board, and think they have to police everything down to the smallest detail. Even inventing reasons. I've never seen anything like it. I exist over there under a different name (TheSavoySuit). I use it mostly as a resource, and a place to get a good laugh from reading posts by some of the semi-retarded Trump super-supporters.Haha I did read you often over there.
The thing is I have never really had issues with them before. They did delete quite a lot of my post but who cares. I ran the sp of the year contest for 2 years and they did not interfere at all. It's their board and I do not want to judge them. Just pissed they banned me haha It's too bad for their users as I was providing a lot of info and reviews. As opposed to so many that suck info out of that board without never contributing or sharing their info.
Member #4665
06-09-20, 02:25
I will find the provider with the fair prices not the highest prices and give her all my money. Everyone is free to set the price, but is usually the competitive prices that win not the higher prices. Unemployment hasn't Been this high since the Great Depression. And the world bank predict a further recession. I'm not sure people are ready to appreciate someone that is hiking up the prices at this moment. I'm really glad I'm not addicted to women. Seriously, I I just go to porn hub in half an hour later I have a big smile across my face.
Yeah and the green forum apparently has a secret Abusive police censoring and deleting everyone's posts. It happened to me too.
It's good to have good rules. Like one thing that kinda sucks is when people say mean thing about the girls. but also allowing people to present their opinions in a polite manner is a valuable resource. As mentioned previously,It's kind of mean to ban a member after he has contributed so much the forum. That is just sad. Isn't there a better way to solve these problems? plus what kind of community Doesn't allow different points of views? The green form definitely has room for improvement.
DethManRulz
06-09-20, 04:18
Does anybody think the green board mods read this thread? I wouldn't be shocked.I hope they do. They could learn a thing or two.
I always thought any serious cough and / or pneumonia caused respiratory damage. I am skeptical to a degree because the media and some other forces have really sold hard the idea that we are all in danger. So much has been proven wrong.
In any event if you are saying the price increases and the escort scene are in a state of flux, yes absolutely. It will be in a state of flux for awhile. When a solid treatment is determined or a vaccine developed or the virus dies out (seems unlikely), the scene will go through another adjustment.I can't really attest to the veracity of any covid infected suffering permanent damage, since there's conflicting data. Likewise, I am skeptical that it's already possible to predict such long consequences. That said, I do believe more than a few escorts in Montreal may believe Covid is a danger to them. The media has done a pretty good job of scaring people.
Girls have risen prices and / or duration minimums because they want to resume in the business, make the same / similar / more as they did pre-covid, (least being less than precovid), but while now reduce their risk. Not yours / ours. Reduce the quantity of us they see, per day of work.
For agencies, there's going to be waves of less client volume (all social events banned all summer, no visitors dumping $ and running, just local customer base) and waves of girls not working periodically as they individually minimize risk dip in and dip out, the agencies rose the girls under who were 240, into that price. These initial weeks of repopening represent pent up demand. Most of those that book will have paid.
I think any realm of price agencies would gave set within the 200-250 range. But the long term, say 2 months from now, I think remains to be seen how busy business will be. Esp if covid does or does not get under control.
Supply of girls versus demand of them, but agencies never lower prices once raised. Prices were raised the last few years already. Perhaps now, they won't raise for the next two-three. Unless the preexisting 240 girls get unhappy and complain that they need to be $260 tier.
DontMindMe11
06-10-20, 14:09
Unless the preexisting 240 girls get unhappy and complain that they need to be $260 tier.A few of the pre-covid 240 girls are now 260 already. Like Sienna at Euphoria. 260/ HR, jesus we are approaching Toronto prices in Montreal. And I promise you the prices will not be going down after this covid bullshit is over. For me the agency price raise makes little sense because it's not like they will be seeing less volume of clients like the indys would. The 20 dollar increase offers no added protection to agency girls. And to think, in 2017/2018 a lot of agency girls were 200/ HR, this is a bad trend and there are too many people defending it. The only reason people come to Montreal is due to the absurdly favourable price / quality ratio and no other city in North America even comes close to matching it.
It seems like the US border will remain close until July 21 now.
Even if I am a local that sucks big time. The hobby needs the US client to thrive. Many girl told me over the years they are the best. They pay well and generally less demanding then locals.
A few of the pre-covid 240 girls are now 260 already. Like Sienna at Euphoria. 260/ HR, jesus we are approaching Toronto prices in Montreal. And I promise you the prices will not be going down after this covid bullshit is over. For me the agency price raise makes little sense because it's not like they will be seeing less volume of clients like the indys would. The 20 dollar increase offers no added protection to agency girls. And to think, in 2017/2018 a lot of agency girls were 200/ HR, this is a bad trend and there are too many people defending it. The only reason people come to Montreal is due to the absurdly favourable price / quality ratio and no other city in North America even comes close to matching it.I think Toronto agencies were pushing towards 300 before COVID. The agencies need to be careful not to push away customers especially for some of the less popular girls. Toronto seems to have informal pricing tiers. I'm not sure how that works with the girls who are priced at a lower rate. I'm guessing the agency owners have to be very sensitive and good at dealing with all the personalities. I suspect they will continue to bring new girls on at lower prices and let the girl's demand kind of determine whether price increases can be sustained.
As already mentioned by others, how do the price increases work with less visitors to Montreal. In any event, it's a very fluid situation.
It seems that pricing discussions are no longer allowed on the local board.
Our illustrious leader has issued a warning that any discussions On pricing are nothing more than tiresome bitching and will be removed and the individual banned. They should shut the fuck up pay the price or jerk off.
Pricing has become a taboo item on the local board, the only pricing that is important is how many advertisers pay to advertise there.
It seems that board is becoming like a police state you write a very positive review or make nice comments on a lady it is considered shilling, if you write any kind of negative issue then depending on the lady it is either body shaming or insensitive and the white Knights come out in droves to defend.
Back to pricing.
The popular local agencies have increased their rates by $20-$30, that in my view is still a bargain especially looking at the gorgeous ladies and services they provide.
Will it last, probably although once the initial wave of pent up horny locals subsides if the borders are not opened there will be a significant decline in hobbyists as many are still scared or have suffered financial losses and may even be unemployed.
The Indies are a whole different story.
Many have increased their rates by $50-$100 and are requiring minimum sessions of 90 minutes to 2 hrs with one even 3 hrs.
That is a significant jump for those who normally book 1 hour sessions.
Will it last, we will see, they are testing the waters.
Personally I will continue to see the indys that I know as they have been very kind to me and I enjoy being with them. I usually book 90 minute sessions anyway.
I will not however see any new indies that have increased their pricing significantly.
If I feel the urge for someone new for the first time I will look towards the 3 popular agencies.
Member #4665
06-10-20, 21:42
Put it into perspective. You tell me which prices are correct. If you are lucky enough to earn 50,000 cad in Montreal after taxes and working weekends you will probably make between 100 and $150 per day. All that I'm after University, speciality training, and years experience.
So how much are providers asking for 1 - 3 hours? These issues can be solved when clients and providers have good negotiating skills. Just think and talk about it.
Concerning the advice given to forum posters by the not too secretive abusive moderators of the green forum...
They should shut the fuck up pay the price or jerk off.
I will jerk off, thank you. I don't suffer from tennis elbow, golf elbow, or repetitive strain elbow injury, so I can jerk off all I want. Greed and pride are the downfall of the hero. :) d4 damager Power to the forum posters. Peaceful Uprising against the greenking in the vicinity.
Something like this happened a year ago in Berlin. And the king over there steped down and had everyone respect the standard rates. Unfortunately this raise the prices culture is making everyone fall ill. Most noticeably in the real estate industry people want to buy a house for 100,000 paint it. Then sell it for 300,000. Or people expect to buy an apartment and rent it out for $2,000 a month. Entitlement. It may be reality, but this sort of attitudes and expectations are the root cause of the housing crisis. In this case when one benefits excessively, it does a lot of damage to the group as a whole. Could we consider changing our expectations? Is man not strong enough to defeat greed?
Could we consider changing our expectations? Is man not strong enough to defeat greed?Perhaps man is, but his dick isn't.
It seems like the US border will remain close until July 21 now.
Even if I am a local that sucks big time. The hobby needs the US client to thrive. Many girl told me over the years they are the best. They pay well and generally less demanding then locals.I agree its the tourism business that is needed. A visitor on vaca, is on spending mindset in most cases, than not. A local is not as much in that mindset. Then there's the currency disparity.
It seems that pricing discussions are no longer allowed on the local board.
Our illustrious leader has issued a warning that any discussions On pricing are nothing more than tiresome bitching and will be removed and the individual banned. They should shut the fuck up pay the price or jerk off.
Pricing has become a taboo item on the local board, the only pricing that is important is how many advertisers pay to advertise there.
It seems that board is becoming like a police state you write a very positive review or make nice comments on a lady it is considered shilling, if you write any kind of negative issue then depending on the lady it is either body shaming or insensitive and the white Knights come out in droves to defend.
Yes, I found it absurd, the reasons offered as you summarized for justification? You let the board members decide if it's tiresome. If it was the thread would die. But no, it was current. And active current events for the board for the scene. There are other, real reasons. Not what was suggested, please. One thing I really don't like is smoke screens.
A few of the pre-covid 240 girls are now 260 already. Like Sienna at Euphoria. 260/ HR, jesus we are approaching Toronto prices in Montreal. And I promise you the prices will not be going down after this covid bullshit is over. For me the agency price raise makes little sense because it's not like they will be seeing less volume of clients like the indys would. The 20 dollar increase offers no added protection to agency girls. And to think, in 2017/2018 a lot of agency girls were 200/ HR, this is a bad trend and there are too many people defending it. The only reason people come to Montreal is due to the absurdly favourable price / quality ratio and no other city in North America even comes close to matching it.I see. I did not notice that. The only 260 agency girl in recent memory was casey back in vog back a few seasons now. It was xo who last year wanted to reposition itself as the top tier agency as if it had to, by setting itself at the 230 price point, now not a year from that euphoria moves ahead of that LOL.
They going to push it to see if it works. The only way to tell them no, is don't accept those prices.
I didn't see anything specially better about the outcall location of XO when they explained why the cost increase (to attract best talent they need to pay them more, get wifi on the outcall, prettier apt or whatever).
DontMindMe11
06-11-20, 06:23
I see. I did not notice that. The only 260 agency girl in recent memory was casey back in vog back a few seasons now. It was xo who last year wanted to reposition itself as the top tier agency as if it had to, by setting itself at the 230 price point, now not a year from that euphoria moves ahead of that LOL.
They going to push it to see if it works. The only way to tell them no, is don't accept those prices.
I didn't see anything specially better about the outcall location of XO when they explained why the cost increase (to attract best talent they need to pay them more, get wifi on the outcall, prettier apt or whatever).The pricing is getting ridiculous and people are just standing by and watching it happen. Of course a 20 dollar increase isn't the end of the world, but there was already a price increase last year, and now there is another 20 dollar increase. I'm just saying it's a slippery slope. And then the people that are voicing their concerns are being suppressed and silenced. First of all, why are the mods getting involved in a thread where there was a civil discussion being had about pricing? And who are they to deem it boring and tedious? The topic of pricing obviously wasn't boring because ever since they locked down that very active thread, the lounge section has been a ghost town. Besides, isn't that what the lounge section is for? For discussing basically anything that people want to discuss.
The way I'm responding to this is by being much more picky. I don't feel like taking any chances now with new SP's that aren't reviewed positively and by people I trust. I'm just going to stick to back channel info from now on so I don't end up getting burned by a sorry excuse for an SP with now premium rates. I'm praying for the next one of you fuckers that books a shitty SP for 240 or 250/ HR.
The pricing is getting ridiculous and people are just standing by and watching it happen. Of course a 20 dollar increase isn't the end of the world, but there was already a price increase last year, and now there is another 20 dollar increase. I'm just saying it's a slippery slope. And then the people that are voicing their concerns are being suppressed and silenced. First of all, why are the mods getting involved in a thread where there was a civil discussion being had about pricing? And who are they to deem it boring and tedious? The topic of pricing obviously wasn't boring because ever since they locked down that very active thread, the lounge section has been a ghost town. Besides, isn't that what the lounge section is for? For discussing basically anything that people want to discuss.
The way I'm responding to this is by being much more picky. I don't feel like taking any chances now with new SP's that aren't reviewed positively and by people I trust. I'm just going to stick to back channel info from now on so I don't end up getting burned by a sorry excuse for an SP with now premium rates. I'm praying for the next one of you fuckers that books a shitty SP for 240 or 250/ HR.We live under the capitalist system. Prices will go as high as people are willing to pay. If there are people willing to pay more prices will go even higher.
Yes, I found it absurd, the reasons offered as you summarized for justification? You let the board members decide if it's tiresome. If it was the thread would die. But no, it was current. And active current events for the board for the scene. There are other, real reasons. Not what was suggested, please. One thing I really don't like is smoke screens.Well I think one long time poster remarked that it isn't really an Escort review board anymore, but rather an Escort ad board. Any comments that are negative to an agency, even if politely presented, can be removed. Also the fact that there exists a secret black and gray list area that list members who are banned from certain agencies without their knowledge is not fair. Someone placed on that list should be able to defend themselves.
DontMindMe11
06-11-20, 16:55
We live under the capitalist system. Prices will go as high as people are willing to pay. If there are people willing to pay more prices will go even higher.Of course, I completely understand this. The problem is that too many guys still think that the increased prices are a bargain and I beg to differ. My issue is that if agencies want to increase prices, they also need to make measurable improvements in their service. As it is right now, there are several escorts that are mediocre at best that are at the 240/ HR rate which is ridiculous. If you are going to increase prices, at least make sure that the vast majority of the girls that work for you meet a high standard of looks and service and that simply isn't the case anymore in Montreal agencies. There are major discrepancies between the various girls at agencies in terms of their looks and service, but these discrepancies aren't reflected in the price because you can have an absolute star who commands the same rates as a girl I wouldn't even fuck for free. I've met complete duds and their prices were the same as star caliber SPs. In capitalism price and quality tend to scale together, in the SP world this is not the case. But hey, if guys want to pay more for less, by all means.
Of course, I completely understand this. The problem is that too many guys still think that the increased prices are a bargain and I beg to differ. My issue is that if agencies want to increase prices, they also need to make measurable improvements in their service. As it is right now, there are several escorts that are mediocre at best that are at the 240/ HR rate which is ridiculous.That statement is true. You need to chose wisely as they are still some great one working.
The problem discussing prices is because we have a memory. 2-3 years ago I could get 100-120 half session including CIM with stunningly beautiful indies. Now there is only a few of these girl left and they ask 180-200 for half hour. I had it so good!
Chubzy Maximus
06-12-20, 03:40
Hi guys,
Hope everyone is staying healthy in all this bullshit. Here's a little diversion from the $$increase talk. Has anyone given this special arrangement stuff a go in MTL? It seems like a lot of work? But I hear once you put the time and effort in the rewards can be endless. How practical is it for guys who come in and out of town for a few days? Anyone have experience, please share it would be cool to hear.
........... I've met complete duds and their prices were the same as star caliber SPs. In capitalism price and quality tend to scale together, in the SP world this is not the case. But hey, if guys want to pay more for less, by all means.I can obviously speak only for myself. If I pay $x for a star and on another occasion pay $x for a flop then there is no way I will repeat with the flop. The caliber SP will always get my money. This is the reason why stars are always so much harder to book than lemons, they are busier. The quality provider wins in the end because she rakes in more money than the dud. Capitalism in action.
DontMindMe11
06-12-20, 19:34
I can obviously speak only for myself. If I pay $x for a star and on another occasion pay $x for a flop then there is no way I will repeat with the flop. The caliber SP will always get my money. This is the reason why stars are always so much harder to book than lemons, they are busier. The quality provider wins in the end because she rakes in more money than the dud. Capitalism in action.Agreed, and this is why reviewing is so important. There was one particular SP I saw last year that had been working for months and months and was on the schedule regularly. I made the mistake of booking her and I honestly would have rather flushed 220 down the toilet than to give it to her. That is how terrible she was, and yet, she was able to work for months and rake in money from countless first time clients and these clients were too afraid to post a bad review, so her cycle continued. She eventually got fired and word got out that a lot of board members had seen her and wanted to warn others, but they didn't want to leave a bad review publicly. The star SP wins in the long game of course, but these lemon SPs are out there more than ever. Veteran mongers will tell you than 10-15 years ago, the quality in Montreal was higher and more consistent. You could get gold at essentially bargain bin prices, now the rates are higher than ever regardless of quality.
Agreed, and this is why reviewing is so important. Yes review are important. But I would say the most important is networking. Especially if you do not mind girl that do not fit the usual young spinner type that are so popular. But in my opinion will lead you often to deception.
With friends networking (here or on the green board) you can truly find some unknown gem. Some older, some still young. Different body type. But girl that truly enjoy what they do. That enjoy having sex!
I can obviously speak only for myself. If I pay $x for a star and on another occasion pay $x for a flop then there is no way I will repeat with the flop. The caliber SP will always get my money. This is the reason why stars are always so much harder to book than lemons, they are busier. The quality provider wins in the end because she rakes in more money than the dud. Capitalism in action.This is why 90% of the time I see my ATF, I have been seeing her for 2 years and she never disappoints.
I stick to a few indys that I know and have always been top notch.
It may be somewhat more pricey but at least I am guaranteed a fabulous experience each time.
The only agency girl that has interested me so far is Heaven, maybe one of these days.
I don't like dealing with bookers and middlemen and like the individual attention some of the Indys provide.
When seeing a totally new Indy I do my research and if I still get it wrong well I have spent a lot more on much worse things than seeing a gorgeous woman who may not be what I was expecting and hoping for, not the end of the world and won't put me in a different tax bracket and obviously I will not repeat.
Perhaps I am too nonchalant about this but unless it is an obvious bait and switch or I am in some kind of danger I would just put it down to a learning experience and move on, life is too short as we have seen lately to worry about one mediocre experience.
So far I can't say I have ever had a bad experience with the fabulous women of Montreal.
DontMindMe11
06-14-20, 13:03
Yes review are important. But I would say the most important is networking. Especially if you do not mind girl that do not fit the usual young spinner type that are so popular. But in my opinion will lead you often to deception.
With friends networking (here or on the green board) you can truly find some unknown gem. Some older, some still young. Different body type. But girl that truly enjoy what they do. That enjoy having sex!YES! Networking behind the scenes of public reviews is undoubtedly the best source of quality information. A lot of the time when I make booking decisions, it's based on info I received from friends and other hobbyists I really trust. There are a lot of guys that don't write public reviews, both on here and the green board, but they see lots of SPs and have a lot of knowledge and information to share. I think it's also very important to consider the age of the client who you are talking to because age can have an effect on service. I wish reviews would list the general age range of the reviewer, that would be helpful. If I'm being honest, the times that I get burned by a bad experience is when I take a risk and book an SP with a unknown reputation. Having said that, if any of you want to share PM's, I'm always open to that. Quid pro quo.
Also, for those wondering about the service level post-covid and lockdown. Me and others I know have all seen several SPs recently and the level of service across the board is the same as it was before the quarantine. Not all the girls are back working, but the girls that were providing great service before COVID, are still providing great service now, nothing has changed in that respect.
Member #4665
06-14-20, 13:34
What do you recommend for those guys who want not only great sex but also, to socialize a little, through longer bookings, that means having some laughs, and make an emotional connection. Not serious socializing, just a basic artificial friendship.
Member #4665
06-14-20, 17:42
I think it's also very important to consider the age of the client who you are talking to because age can have an effect on service. I wish reviews would list the general age range of the reviewer, that would be helpful. Age? How so?
Age? How so?I so much agree with dontmindme on this. Age of the reviewer is very important. As well as years of hobbying.
Whatever age you are you will not be the same and accept same level of service if you are a newbie versus 10 years into this. So you will not read a review the same either.
Same for your age. In my early 40 I was a 2 sog full sex.
Hi all,
Just want to introduce myself as I want to join the gang here. Been spending the past few days reading this thread as I am / used to be a frequent visitor of Montreal. Interesting points were read, and I seeing familiar handles (I am used to the green board). You've convinced me to post reports here moving forward. Became aware of this from NatureBoy who's been quite helpful to me in the past. I also want to give shoutout to Mongerer88 who helped me with my Lisbon adventures years ago. Looking forward to start hobbying again. Without further ado, I'll give one contribution for now for good will.
Cora Winters. Indy.
I saw her before the pandemic and never got to post a review. She's is really awesome. She's a very good looking girl facially (got that exotic European Asian mix look). She's super fit as she is into fitness and does some competition. Attitude wise she is very easy going, very modest and humble. I would classify her as GFE plus. Not sure how much I can say here so I'll end with the usual "email me or PM me if you are seeking specifics". Doesn't seem like she's operating at this very moment, probably due to the pandemic, but I would highly recommend her for those who are into tall, fit-bodied girls. I found her through the green board last time. She's definitely on the pricey side compared to agency girls but I think she's worth meeting once. I would compare her service level to Laura from Euphoria for those who have met her before, but Cora is taller, more fit, and I find her less timid as first meeting goes.
Cora Winters. Indy.
I saw her before the pandemic and never got to post a review. She's is really awesome. She's a very good looking girl facially (got that exotic European Asian mix look). She's super fit as she is into fitness and does some competition. Attitude wise she is very easy going, very modest and humble. I would classify her as GFE plus. Not sure how much I can say here so I'll end with the usual "email me or PM me if you are seeking specifics". Doesn't seem like she's operating at this very moment, probably due to the pandemic, but I would highly recommend her for those who are into tall, fit-bodied girls. I found her through the green board last time. She's definitely on the pricey side compared to agency girls but I think she's worth meeting once. I would compare her service level to Laura from Euphoria for those who have met her before, but Cora is taller, more fit, and I find her less timid as first meeting goes.She doesn't seem to have much of a footprint on the internet.
Chubzy Maximus
06-15-20, 20:29
I so much agree with dontmindme on this. Age of the reviewer is very important. As well as years of hobbying.
Whatever age you are you will not be the same and accept same level of service if you are a newbie versus 10 years into this. So you will not read a review the same either.
Same for your age. In my early 40 I was a 2 sog full sex.I think I disagreed with you before on this, but I do get where your coming from. Knowing how experienced a client is can certainly be beneficial, however, in the climate that is MTL I'm afraid that many of the experienced gents seem to post pretty much the same gist of review content with just the name of the provider being changed. Some even have the providers proofread them beforehand. Some have relationships with agencies and are known to get 1st dibs on newbie providers in exchange for a favorable review, so again, in the climate of what is MTL, I would take years of hobbying in MTL with a grain of salt.
She doesn't seem to have much of a footprint on the internet.She seems pretty low key yeah. I didn't ask her anything about her internet presence. Hopefully she comes back maybe later this year.
I think I disagreed with you before on this, but I do get where your coming from. Knowing how experienced a client is can certainly be beneficial, however, in the climate that is MTL I'm afraid that many of the experienced gents seem to post pretty much the same gist of review content with just the name of the provider being changed. Some even have the providers proofread them beforehand. Some have relationships with agencies and are known to get 1st dibs on newbie providers in exchange for a favorable review, so again, in the climate of what is MTL, I would take years of hobbying in MTL with a grain of salt.Is it really all that advantageous to be able to be the first one in line to meet a new rookie? My experience with rookies have been very underwhelming to the point that these days I have very little interest. Occasionally I would indulge but it would take a lot to get to that point (mood, situation, finance have to align).
Interestingly enough, on my last visit, I mainly chatted with the booker of the agencies to get their takes. Some of them are quite honest with me with regards to expectations. I guess this is potentially because they know I was a decent customer in the past. I will say that the bookers are generally a lot better with this when compared to Toronto bookers, truly day and night. Anyway, my point is, it wouldn't hurt to try to solicit their input as well.
I'm afraid that many of the experienced gents seem to post pretty much the same gist of review content with just the name of the provider being changed. Some even have the providers proofread them beforehand. Some have relationships with agencies and are known to get 1st dibs on newbie providers in exchange for a favorable review, so again, in the climate of what is MTL, I would take years of hobbying in MTL with a grain of salt.I agree with Chubzy on this. There are some experienced reviewers who begin the review with "My good friend Mr. A from Big-Time Agency called me and told me that he had a new girl who just can't be missed and boy was he right. " I doubt that this reviewer would ever write anything negative about his "good friend' Mr. A's agency. Just last year there was a long time reviewer who wrote a typical over the top review of a new girl at his "friend's" agency. The review was quickly disputed by three other reviewers and the review disappeared.
I would also agree with PCode80 assessment of new girls. There are some experienced reviewers who love to boast that they were a new girl's first client. Does it really matter? A few years ago there was an exchange on the review board like this:
Reviewer 1: "I am happy to report that I was New Girl's first client on her very first day. ".
Reviewer 2: "No you weren't. I actually saw her the day before her official first day".
Reviewer 3: "You're both wrong. I actually saw her the week before when my good friend Mr. A from Big-Time Agency asked me to do a trial run and provide feedback. ".
Bottom Line: Some experienced reviewers can be trusted and some can't.
Is it really all that advantageous to be able to be the first one in line to meet a new rookie? My experience with rookies have been very underwhelming to the point that these days I have very little interest. Occasionally I would indulge but it would take a lot to get to that point (mood, situation, finance have to align).
Interestingly enough, on my last visit, I mainly chatted with the booker of the agencies to get their takes. Some of them are quite honest with me with regards to expectations. I guess this is potentially because they know I was a decent customer in the past. I will say that the bookers are generally a lot better with this when compared to Toronto bookers, truly day and night. Anyway, my point is, it wouldn't hurt to try to solicit their input as well.Hey, wasn't there a reliable and honest poster on the local board named pseudocode? If that is you mon amis, please stay here and share. I remember you were once burned seeing an unreliable escort where the local board basically wiped clean her checkered history before your interest. We have conversed via PM and your perspective was very helpful.
Chubzy Maximus
06-19-20, 02:10
Is it really all that advantageous to be able to be the first one in line to meet a new rookie? My experience with rookies have been very underwhelming to the point that these days I have very little interest. Occasionally I would indulge but it would take a lot to get to that point (mood, situation, finance have to align).
Interestingly enough, on my last visit, I mainly chatted with the booker of the agencies to get their takes. Some of them are quite honest with me with regards to expectations. I guess this is potentially because they know I was a decent customer in the past. I will say that the bookers are generally a lot better with this when compared to Toronto bookers, truly day and night. Anyway, my point is, it wouldn't hurt to try to solicit their input as well.It depends really about seeing newbies. Are they really newbies? Do they have experience coming from massage establishments? Are they already on SA? Two separate bookers recommended newbies to me, but they were already on SA for well over years and were rockstars when I saw them. Yea they were newbies as SP's but still very well experienced at making you happy. That's where pcode comes in when he says you got to talk to bookers, 100% correct.
Is it known if any of the agencies are getting their inventory periodically tested going forward? Not for sti, but covid I mean.
Is it known if any of the agencies are getting their inventory periodically tested going forward? Not for sti, but covid I mean.I really don't see why this would make a difference, you can be tested and negative one day and get infected the very next.
If it was antibody testing meaning that you have had it and are now no longer infectious that would be a different story.
Even with that there is not enough data to know how long you will be immune to the virus after having successfully lived through it once.
The only thing it could possibly weed out are people that are infectious at the particular day of the test it's no guarantee someone testing negative may not get infected the very next day.
You want to be 100% safe of not getting the virus from an SP stay home LOL.
Is it known if any of the agencies are getting their inventory periodically tested going forward? Not for sti, but covid I mean.The girls are not their employee. And surely not their inventory It's up to the girl to get tested for sti. Same for COVID.
Seems like a good option, anybody seen her? Thanks.
Seems like a good option, anybody seen her? Thanks.If you like that style of girl go see Heaven. Better looking and an absolute sure thing on service. But I disclose having never heard of that Alycia. Hopefully others will help.
Hey, wasn't there a reliable and honest poster on the local board named pseudocode? If that is you mon amis, please stay here and share. I remember you were once burned seeing an unreliable escort where the local board basically wiped clean her checkered history before your interest. We have conversed via PM and your perspective was very helpful.I don't now about reliable, but yes that's my handle in the green board.
Yeah I used this board a while back only for my visit to Portugal and didn't realize people are active here for Montreal.
I have to apologize, I am not sure I figured out who you are yet. I mainly have been conversing with a user whose handle is Nature Boy. I may have chatted with you a bit in the past but I can't recall what it was about. Frankly, I didn't even know I got burned haha. I do notice one or two of my reviews in the past have disappeared but I guess I wasn't a frequent visitor enough to see what kind of conversation have transpired before they were taken down. I don't usually look at the follow-ups on my reviews. But now I am curious, do tell if you recall which girl it was about.
It depends really about seeing newbies. Are they really newbies? Do they have experience coming from massage establishments? Are they already on SA? Two separate bookers recommended newbies to me, but they were already on SA for well over years and were rockstars when I saw them. Yea they were newbies as SP's but still very well experienced at making you happy. That's where pcode comes in when he says you got to talk to bookers, 100% correct.Still, I don't get the appeal. I still think the risk of having an undesirable meeting is higher that way, and on the other hand you can just wait for a few weeks or so while proper intel can ultimately be gathered. I bet the SP is going to perform just as well on her third week than on her first week. I can't think of a situation where an SP will be better on her first week of work than on her forth week of work. I mean, maybe, but I feel the chances of that happening is much lower than the opposite.
I will say that I appreciate these people though, who are willing to take that chance and report, but as you all say, they may be biased without possibly realizing themselves.
I agree with Chubzy on this. There are some experienced reviewers who begin the review with "My good friend Mr. A from Big-Time Agency called me and told me that he had a new girl who just can't be missed and boy was he right. " I doubt that this reviewer would ever write anything negative about his "good friend' Mr. A's agency. Just last year there was a long time reviewer who wrote a typical over the top review of a new girl at his "friend's" agency. The review was quickly disputed by three other reviewers and the review disappeared.
I would also agree with PCode80 assessment of new girls. There are some experienced reviewers who love to boast that they were a new girl's first client. Does it really matter? A few years ago there was an exchange on the review board like this:
Reviewer 1: "I am happy to report that I was New Girl's first client on her very first day. ".
Reviewer 2: "No you weren't. I actually saw her the day before her official first day"..I hate to say it but this is actually one of the reasons I like to read the greenboard. These ego-oriented exchanges are somewhat funny. Trying to imagine how much fun the SPs are having reading them and just laughing in the background.
Saw her in mid winter. She's a bit more curvy that what I typically prefer (I typically prefer the slim / slender body type). She's an extremely easy going person so I can guarantee that breaking the ice isn't going to be a challenge with her. I had a multi-hour session with her and was confident enough to do so based on her overwhelmingly positive reviews. Plus I was celebrating something. She was dedicated to the session and didn't allow anything to distract her from pleasing and meeting my requests. I was very content. Even tough she's on a higher than average rate, I think she deserves it and I have placed her on my repeat list.
You all may see a few more since I realized I missed a few reviews from recent past in the green board. Might as well put them here.
The only thing it could possibly weed out are people that are infectious at the particular day of the test it's no guarantee someone testing negative may not get infected the very next day.
And that, is a 1000% enough, because if one is asymtomatic, it would stop the spread, LOL.
I hate to say it but this is actually one of the reasons I like to read the greenboard. These ego-oriented exchanges are somewhat funny. Trying to imagine how much fun the SPs are having reading them and just laughing in the background.You brought to mind for a quick conversation I had while with a girl who went under the radar last year but kept in contact with me four my multi HR needs, when I spoke to her of merb for the first time, she just said very softly. I haaate merrrrb.
I should have asked her for clarity at the time.
I hate to say it but this is actually one of the reasons I like to read the greenboard. These ego-oriented exchanges are somewhat funny. Trying to imagine how much fun the SPs are having reading them and just laughing in the background.You made me laugh here Some reviewers do not get it. They are reviewing themselves! I find them funny to read but always roll my eyes to the ceiling at the second or third O they gave to the girl haha.
Still, I don't get the appeal. I still think the risk of having an undesirable meeting is higher that way, and on the other hand you can just wait for a few weeks or so while proper intel can ultimately be gathered. I bet the SP is going to perform just as well on her third week than on her first week. I can't think of a situation where an SP will be better on her first week of work than on her forth week of work. I mean, maybe, but I feel the chances of that happening is much lower than the opposite.
I will say that I appreciate these people though, who are willing to take that chance and report, but as you all say, they may be biased without possibly realizing themselves.I can think of easily.
Say she gets some bad clients up front and gets taken advantage of, and she becomes guarded the rest of the way going forward.
I should have asked her for clarity at the time.It's because of YMMV. It has nothing to do with your look, body type, sexual talent, cock size, age. It's all about YMMV.
So they do not like being reviewed. Being tagged with acronyms they do or not do. Because they might very well do something they won't to another dude or the opposite.
Took me a few years to get that. So yes only a few minority like the boards all others will hate it soon enough. But that said the forum boards are vital to work your way around all the baits and switch.
I agree with Chubzy on this. There are some experienced reviewers who begin the review with "My good friend Mr. A from Big-Time Agency called me and told me that he had a new girl who just can't be missed and boy was he right. " I doubt that this reviewer would ever write anything negative about his "good friend' Mr. A's agency. Just last year there was a long time reviewer who wrote a typical over the top review of a new girl at his "friend's" agency. The review was quickly disputed by three other reviewers and the review disappeared.
I would also agree with PCode80 assessment of new girls. There are some experienced reviewers who love to boast that they were a new girl's first client. Does it really matter? A few years ago there was an exchange on the review board like this:
Reviewer 1: "I am happy to report that I was New Girl's first client on her very first day. ".
Reviewer 2: "No you weren't. I actually saw her the day before her official first day".
Reviewer 3: "You're both wrong. I actually saw her the week before when my good friend Mr. A from Big-Time Agency asked me to do a trial run and provide feedback. ".
Bottom Line: Some experienced reviewers can be trusted and some can't.Yes there are those kinds of writeups at he green board. Sometimes I guess being a thread starter for a girl, has something to do with it or the over all sense of TOFTH, that's all as well.
But there is a differnce for those which it matters, between a 'new girl' (to the roster of an agency) versus a new girl to an agency, that's also new to the scene, and you're the first client. Those are the ones who the posters brag about.
Earlier this year I had a girl new to the agency and I learned from her she had come from recently stopped working at a completely unadvertised, word of mouth only, establishment. That was the pits. How / why she bothered to work there I did not ask, but she left as well as took her friend w / her. So, though new, she wasnt new to the scene.
I can think of easily.
Say she gets some bad clients up front and gets taken advantage of, and she becomes guarded the rest of the way going forward.I guess but if that happens, frankly, I imagine that's something that is unlikely to happen through those agency reviewers because that's bad for business. That could happen to anyone at anytime.
I'm planning to visit the city in the fall. Hopefully things stabilized by then. Not sure how the scene will look like at that point.
Member #4665
06-21-20, 02:33
It's because of YMMV. It has nothing to do with your look, body type, sexual talent, cock size, age. It's all about YMMV.So if it YMMV has nothing to do with those things you mentioned. Then what exactly determines "your mileage may vary"?
On a different topic, I think the green forum doesn't allow the girls to reply to the reviews. ONLY UNDER EXCEPTIONAL CIRCUMSTANCES sometimes the girls reply. That just seems unfair. However, some of the girls have really good threads. Like the threads help people believe they're honest workers because there are no troublesome reviews. I think the positive experience threads help the girls get new customers.
Chubzy Maximus
06-21-20, 04:13
Saw her in mid winter. She's a bit more curvy that what I typically prefer (I typically prefer the slim / slender body type). She's an extremely easy going person so I can guarantee that breaking the ice isn't going to be a challenge with her. I had a multi-hour session with her and was confident enough to do so based on her overwhelmingly positive reviews. Plus I was celebrating something. She was dedicated to the session and didn't allow anything to distract her from pleasing and meeting my requests. I was very content. Even tough she's on a higher than average rate, I think she deserves it and I have placed her on my repeat list.
You all may see a few more since I realized I missed a few reviews from recent past in the green board. Might as well put them here.Please do. April absolutely killed it with end of the year polling for Indy of the year. Katrina girl came in second. Have you seen Katrina girl pdiddy?
DontMindMe11
06-21-20, 04:33
You made me laugh here Some reviewers do not get it. They are reviewing themselves! I find them funny to read but always roll my eyes to the ceiling at the second or third O they gave to the girl haha.Here's the thing those reviewers don't get. The girls are secretly laughing at them behind their backs. I met a popular agency girl recently and she was telling me why she doesn't like MERB. She said clients that come from MERB are the worst because they come in with false expectations because they read that the girl will do a certain act in a review and then they get upset when she refuses. They also find those long, romanticized reviews to be cringe worthy. If you're reading this and you are a guy that writes long reviews where you gush over the girl the entire time, STOP, you are being made fun of behind your back. The SP that you glorify in your essay long reviews are having a laugh at your expense.
The worst is the guys that think they have a connection with the girl and that he is a favoured client. Dudes, wake up. She is an SP, she doesn't give two fucks about you, she only wants your money. Have fun, enjoy yourself, but don't get attached and think it is something more than a transaction. And please if you are writing a review, write about the girl, not the size of your micro penis and how many O's you gave her, so cringe.
Member #4660
06-21-20, 07:59
I agree with Chubzy on this. There are some experienced reviewers who begin the review with "My good friend Mr. A from Big-Time Agency called me and told me that he had a new girl who just can't be missed and boy was he right. " I doubt that this reviewer would ever write anything negative about his "good friend' Mr. A's agency. Just last year there was a long time reviewer who wrote a typical over the top review of a new girl at his "friend's" agency. The review was quickly disputed by three other reviewers and the review disappeared.I'm a reviewer on that board. I have written many many many reviews. Maybe around 100+ in just 2018, my first time on that board. Been writing steadily ever since.
I would say 95% of my reviews are generally positive. Like you said, I tend to ignore anyone who has a relationship with the agency because they would never write anything bad. In fact, I've had several terrible experiences that I have maybe 8-9 reviewers that I blacklist and ignore.
I have 4-5 bad reviews in the past year of some very popular SPs. Those 8-9 guys surely enough, immediately jump in and say how wrong I am. Funny enough, there are about many guys on that board that message me privately to tell me they had the same terrible experience, but don't want to get banned for bad reviews or banned from promotions or parties. It is absolutely ridiculous. Guys too afraid of sharing their bad experiences, which is the entire point of review boards. And guys who have nothing better to do than blindly criticize anyone with a bad experience.
Here's the thing those reviewers don't get. The girls are secretly laughing at them behind their backs. I met a popular agency girl recently and she was telling me why she doesn't like MERB. She said clients that come from MERB are the worst because they come in with false expectations because they read that the girl will do a certain act in a review and then they get upset when she refuses. They also find those long, romanticized reviews to be cringe worthy. If you're reading this and you are a guy that writes long reviews where you gush over the girl the entire time, STOP, you are being made fun of behind your back. The SP that you glorify in your essay long reviews are having a laugh at your expense.Yeah, I skip those. You immediately know those are the guys that will never say anything negative, too. They're the same as the guys who boasts about "knowing the owner". It's pathetic.
The worst is the guys that think they have a connection with the girl and that he is a favoured client. Dudes, wake up. She is an SP, she doesn't give two fucks about you, she only wants your money. Have fun, enjoy yourself, but don't get attached and think it is something more than a transaction. And please if you are writing a review, write about the girl, not the size of your micro penis and how many O's you gave her, so cringe.I find that untrue in Montreal. There's a popular SP I was dating-slash-friends with for 2 years and still see once in a while. We actually lived together for about 6 months. I find that the Montreal scene is very very different from most other cities. The SPs are very down to hang out without a business-relationship. I've been to music festivals, dinners, lunch with them, met her friends, traveled, etc. No, I wasn't a sugar daddy, either, the action was unpaid. I also saw 2 others here and there once in a while. Again, I find that Montreal SPs are very very casual and not business-like. It's incredible, I love this city.
Mongerer88
06-21-20, 11:38
Here's the thing those reviewers don't get. The girls are secretly laughing at them behind their backs. I met a popular agency girl recently and she was telling me why she doesn't like MERB. She said clients that come from MERB are the worst because they come in with false expectations because they read that the girl will do a certain act in a review and then they get upset when she refuses. They also find those long, romanticized reviews to be cringe worthy. If you're reading this and you are a guy that writes long reviews where you gush over the girl the entire time, STOP, you are being made fun of behind your back. The SP that you glorify in your essay long reviews are having a laugh at your expense.
The worst is the guys that think they have a connection with the girl and that he is a favoured client. Dudes, wake up. She is an SP, she doesn't give two fucks about you, she only wants your money. Have fun, enjoy yourself, but don't get attached and think it is something more than a transaction. And please if you are writing a review, write about the girl, not the size of your micro penis and how many O's you gave her, so cringe.The reviews are for other guys, and ultimately for ourselves. We want to find ladies we like. If I read several reviews where a lady does everything I want, I like her pictures, and the reviews confirm the accuracy of the pictures, I am more likely to book her. Ultimately, we build a network of reviewers who we trust and have similar interests and use that system to make decisions.
If a lady offers varying services to different customers, eventually that comes to light through reviews. Each of us then has to make a decision as to whether we are likely to be the recipient of good service from her on that particular day.
Many of the ladies do dislike the review system. Laughing at reviewers may indeed be a way that some of them express that dislike. Many of us would prefer that they not even read the reviews. These are fundamental and irreconcilable conflicts in a system where the ladies themselves advertise and participate on the same boards where they are reviewed. Sometimes you encounter ladies who simply say they don't read the reviews, but they are glad the review system exists, and those are usually gems.
You also have to understand that reviews are a necessity in a world where many governments are moving to systems where advertising is censored. Fosta / Sesta in the USA Is of course the best example, but there are others. Canada's adoption of the Nordic Model has reduced the availability of explicit advertising. The Australian province that includes Melbourne bans sexually-explicit acronyms in ads. Germany's lovely (and thank-god often ignored) rule that she must apply a condom for oral sex and she can give you a spanking, but you can't give her one, has certainly limited the ability of ladies to advertise BBBJ and submissive BDSM offerings. And many advertising venues where multiple ladies who advertise in Portugal do not allow either pricing or explicit acronyms in the ads, to avoid the pimping / pandering laws, apparently. So reviews are the only way to get much of that information.
So reviews are the only way to find out that information. For some of us, this is really easy. If a lady is CBJ only, there is the real possibility of erectile dis function and a ruined session, so the reviews are necessary to get the most important information needed for a booking. When a lady says she hates reviews and laughs at them, please explain these concepts to her. And does she really want to take the administrative time to answer the same question over and over again regarding her services and sometimes even pricing. And sometimes there are legal issues at play. In places where commercial sex is illegal, or half-legal, the very discussion of explicit services and prices can be dangerous. Guys hate screening, but unless both parties are very comfortable that neither is law enforcement and / or that law enforcement will never later discover the email or text, it is better that a guy read the information in a review instead of having that written discussion with her about certain details.
And readers of reviews have to understand a very basic concept that amazingly escapes so many guys. Certain activities will always be YMMV. There are times when anal sex is simply unavailable, and so is heavier BDSM submissive play, even from a lady who typically offers and enjoys those activities. Girls don't really enjoy discussing the gory details of life such as having inflammation as a result of diarrhea or not getting spanked too often to avoid bruises. They prefer to just communicate what is available during the sessions themselves as things progress. And just like reviews are ultimately for other guys, we owe a duty to each other to recognize that YMMV is a necessary part of every session, even if the availability of certain service offerings are mentioned in advertisements or reviews. One of the best ladies I saw in Lisbon was named Ana. She had the rare body of a college track star. Long and lean with long blonde hair. You just don't find that type any longer with the fattening of the world. There was a review on the local board where a guy basically insisted that she do anal sex even though she initially declined, because he said it was in her ad. He said that upset her but she complied. Sure enough, she left the business in a week or two. She was a sweet girl, so I feel bad for her, but look how that idiot ruined it for the rest of us. Hope that Karma gets him.
So if it YMMV has nothing to do with those things you mentioned. Then what exactly determines "your mileage may vary"?
On a different topic, I think the green forum doesn't allow the girls to reply to the reviews. ONLY UNDER EXCEPTIONAL CIRCUMSTANCES sometimes the girls reply. That just seems unfair. However, some of the girls have really good threads. Like the threads help people believe they're honest workers because there are no troublesome reviews. I think the positive experience threads help the girls get new customers.Yea, I read that somewhere as well. It does not make sense to me either. The red board allows them to do it but not the green board. I am not sure what the rationale behind that was.
Here is the thing. In my opinion, it is not at all difficult to tell whether a girl is genuine or not. If you have enough street smarts and instincts from just regular life experience, average socializing skills, you an tell who truly enjoys being with you and who don't. I say it that way because I think all the SPs do genuinely want to provide a good service but there are times when the connection or the chemistry isn't there. That's just my take on it.
I do remember now who I think ChubzyM is referring to. It may have been a girl named Dasha. Had glowing reviews when she first started but my meeting with her was disappointing. I actually mitigated my review quite a bit I dare say, but it was actually quite the waste of time and money. I think the issue I had with her is that I didn't feel she even tried to make the most out of it. Interestingly enough she's got very mixed reviews in the red board (she comes to Toronto as an Indy now and then). She definitely responded there to that I believe.
Here's the thing those reviewers don't get. The girls are secretly laughing at them behind their backs. I met a popular agency girl recently and she was telling me why she doesn't like MERB. She said clients that come from MERB are the worst because they come in with false expectations because they read that the girl will do a certain act in a review and then they get upset when she refuses. They also find those long, romanticized reviews to be cringe worthy. If you're reading this and you are a guy that writes long reviews where you gush over the girl the entire time, STOP, you are being made fun of behind your back. The SP that you glorify in your essay long reviews are having a laugh at your expense.
The worst is the guys that think they have a connection with the girl and that he is a favoured client. Dudes, wake up. She is an SP, she doesn't give two fucks about you, she only wants your money. Have fun, enjoy yourself, but don't get attached and think it is something more than a transaction. And please if you are writing a review, write about the girl, not the size of your micro penis and how many O's you gave her, so cringe.Haha I will admit that I may have been in those shoes in in the past (thinking I was a favorite) when I was a bit more naive, I won't lie. Thankfully I grew up eventually and timely. I do feel bad about those people though. I imagine some of them opted to go this route because they are socially timid so I can imagine that it doesn't take much to grab their attention and bring it over the top. I can totally see it. You get caught up in the moment, the SP are young and say what's on their mind unintentionally without realizing the repercussions and the words are interpreted to be more than what they are.
Questions for the veterans. I am starting my browsing and I notice that there are quite a few agency SPs who now advertise (seemingly) independently on other platforms. I am wondering if anyone can provide some input on the rationale behind this. Are they advertising independently on purpose? I have heard some say that often their profile are posted without their permissions.
If it was deliberate, why would anyone take up the indy rate over agency? What do the agencies not offer?
I did double check and some of them offer services in the same city. Thoughts?
If here is already a discussion of this on this forum before, let me know. I tried browsing but I am not sure how to easily search for them right now. Kind of new to this site.
Thank you in advance.
DontMindMe11
06-21-20, 21:47
Questions for the veterans. I am starting my browsing and I notice that there are quite a few agency SPs who now advertise (seemingly) independently on other platforms. I am wondering if anyone can provide some input on the rationale behind this. Are they advertising independently on purpose? I have heard some say that often their profile are posted without their permissions.
If it was deliberate, why would anyone take up the indy rate over agency? What do the agencies not offer?
I did double check and some of them offer services in the same city. Thoughts?
If here is already a discussion of this on this forum before, let me know. I tried browsing but I am not sure how to easily search for them right now. Kind of new to this site.
Thank you in advance.From what I understand, sometimes a girl is so popular and in high demand that the agency will turn a blind eye if the girl decides to supplement her income by working independently for a higher rate. Now, I think technically this is prohibited by the agency, that a girl see clients privately outside agency schedules and hours. But sometimes, a girl is too good to pass up and you sort of have to deal with her working outside of agency hours if you want to continue having her on your roster as a draw or attraction. Meanwhile, when other girls are caught doing this, they are fired from the agency.
There was one popular agency girl who I only saw once at the actual agency. But I saw her several more times again, outside of agency hours. Only the first time was through the agency, but all the rest of the bookings I made privately with her. This allowed flexibility that I wouldn't get with the agency. The best part is that she continued to charge me her standard agency rate. But she didn't explicitly advertise as an Indy, it was all hush-hush. And I'm sure this still happens, I know for a fact that it does.
Why would someone take on the indy rate over the agency rate? The only reasons I can think of are related to the booking process. If you contact the girl as an indy, you can talk to her directly and also book whichever time works best for you rather than being stuck with having to work around the arbitrary agency schedules. You can book a time that is convenient for you.
There is no other advantage that I know of, it's not that the agencies don't offer a particular thing, it's just that you have to deal with the schedule of the agency. So if the girl you want to see is only working on a certain day and you are in town only on that day, you will be shit out of luck if she is fully booked. Whereas if she offers indy services, you may be willing to pay the extra for the convenience of booking her at time that works for you.
DontMindMe11
06-21-20, 22:11
The reviews are for other guys, and ultimately for ourselves. We want to find ladies we like. If I read several reviews where a lady does everything I want, I like her pictures, and the reviews confirm the accuracy of the pictures, I am more likely to book her. Ultimately, we build a network of reviewers who we trust and have similar interests and use that system to make decisions.
If a lady offers varying services to different customers, eventually that comes to light through reviews. Each of us then has to make a decision as to whether we are likely to be the recipient of good service from her on that particular day.
Many of the ladies do dislike the review system. Laughing at reviewers may indeed be a way that some of them express that dislike. Many of us would prefer that they not even read the reviews. These are fundamental and irreconcilable conflicts in a system where the ladies themselves advertise and participate on the same boards where they are reviewed. Sometimes you encounter ladies who simply say they don't read the reviews, but they are glad the review system exists, and those are usually gems.
You also have to understand that reviews are a necessity in a world where many governments are moving to systems where advertising is censored. Fosta / Sesta in the USA Is of course the best example, but there are others. Canada's adoption of the Nordic Model has reduced the availability of explicit advertising. The Australian province that includes Melbourne bans sexually-explicit acronyms in ads. Germany's lovely (and thank-god often ignored) rule that she must apply a condom for oral sex and she can give you a spanking, but you can't give her one, has certainly limited the ability of ladies to advertise BBBJ and submissive BDSM offerings. And many advertising venues where multiple ladies who advertise in Portugal do not allow either pricing or explicit acronyms in the ads, to avoid the pimping / pandering laws, apparently. So reviews are the only way to get much of that information.
So reviews are the only way to find out that information. For some of us, this is really easy. If a lady is CBJ only, there is the real possibility of erectile dis function and a ruined session, so the reviews are necessary to get the most important information needed for a booking. When a lady says she hates reviews and laughs at them, please explain these concepts to her. And does she really want to take the administrative time to answer the same question over and over again regarding her services and sometimes even pricing. And sometimes there are legal issues at play. In places where commercial sex is illegal, or half-legal, the very discussion of explicit services and prices can be dangerous. Guys hate screening, but unless both parties are very comfortable that neither is law enforcement and / or that law enforcement will never later discover the email or text, it is better that a guy read the information in a review instead of having that written discussion with her about certain details.
And readers of reviews have to understand a very basic concept that amazingly escapes so many guys. Certain activities will always be YMMV. There are times when anal sex is simply unavailable, and so is heavier BDSM submissive play, even from a lady who typically offers and enjoys those activities. Girls don't really enjoy discussing the gory details of life such as having inflammation as a result of diarrhea or not getting spanked too often to avoid bruises. They prefer to just communicate what is available during the sessions themselves as things progress. And just like reviews are ultimately for other guys, we owe a duty to each other to recognize that YMMV is a necessary part of every session, even if the availability of certain service offerings are mentioned in advertisements or reviews. One of the best ladies I saw in Lisbon was named Ana. She had the rare body of a college track star. Long and lean with long blonde hair. You just don't find that type any longer with the fattening of the world. There was a review on the local board where a guy basically insisted that she do anal sex even though she initially declined, because he said it was in her ad. He said that upset her but she complied. Sure enough, she left the business in a week or two. She was a sweet girl, so I feel bad for her, but look how that idiot ruined it for the rest of us. Hope that Karma gets him.I agree with a lot of what you said, we are on the same page. However, you are describing the ideal scenario for reviews. Reviews CAN be helpful sure, and ideally if everybody was honest, they would be even better. But that isn't the case. I've been burned by overly positive reviews a few times, and likewise, I was burned by a lack of a negative review. Sometimes a guy will see the girl, have a terrible session and never mention it on the board for fear of getting banned or retaliation by the white knights. I end up seeing her and having a shitty time, and later I find out that she was known to be awful but nobody dared to write a public review to warn others. Reviews can help you and hurt you, but I'm glad they exist.
The concept of YMMV is lost on some people though, and that is the real downside with reviews. There is always potential to have a better or worse session than the guy before you and this is what clients hate. When you pay just as much as the other guy, you expect to get the same service he got but that isn't the case.
Questions for the veterans. I am starting my browsing and I notice that there are quite a few agency SPs who now advertise (seemingly) independently on other platforms. I am wondering if anyone can provide some input on the rationale behind this. Are they advertising independently on purpose? I have heard some say that often their profile are posted without their permissions.
If it was deliberate, why would anyone take up the indy rate over agency? What do the agencies not offer?
I did double check and some of them offer services in the same city. Thoughts?
If here is already a discussion of this on this forum before, let me know. I tried browsing but I am not sure how to easily search for them right now. Kind of new to this site.
Thank you in advance.This is very important discussion. Many girl now have a twitter account. I absolutely love it because you get a better picture of the girl, how she looks and acts. It tells you so much more then agency photoshop pics. You can also message them. I usually start my message by describing a bit about me. Write not to worry I will never bombard them with message. If we agree on expectation of service (I prepare the session I want) we schedule something. Of all girl I have done this the actual session happened at the agency. Most are loyal to the agency in that regards so I would not openly suggest to see her outside the agency. Unless it's a repeat and / or the girl decides only to see you.
Also often many will post their schedule. Which is great as some agency do not publish weekly schedule.
I don't now about reliable, but yes that's my handle in the green board.
Yeah I used this board a while back only for my visit to Portugal and didn't realize people are active here for Montreal.
I have to apologize, I am not sure I figured out who you are yet. I mainly have been conversing with a user whose handle is Nature Boy. I may have chatted with you a bit in the past but I can't recall what it was about. Frankly, I didn't even know I got burned haha. I do notice one or two of my reviews in the past have disappeared but I guess I wasn't a frequent visitor enough to see what kind of conversation have transpired before they were taken down. I don't usually look at the follow-ups on my reviews. But now I am curious, do tell if you recall which girl it was about.I think things started heating up here about two or so years ago. Mongerer88 was holding down the fort here. Some of us green board refugees realized we could have unfettered conversations about the Montreal scene. Jalimon and cloudsurf show up from time to time. Chubzy and others are well-known contributors.
I believe the girl was Gaia or Luna or whatever the fuck she was calling herself at the time (or perhaps it was Dasha). Both Gaia and Dasha at one time had their older reviews wiped clean. I think it coincided with them going Indy and becoming advertisers. Gaia was a superstar flake who seemed to waiver between fucking your brains out or just completely flaking on keeping the appointment without warning. Beautiful Dasha seems to be a 50/50 as to whether she is engaged in the session or not. At least with the former, you wouldn't be out any money. Sexually frustrated perhaps, but not out any money.
If memory serves me, you got burned just after the older reviews were removed. Anyways, they both had very hit or miss histories that didn't seem to be rectified with the fresh start on their review thread.
Saw her in mid winter. She's a bit more curvy that what I typically prefer (I typically prefer the slim / slender body type). She's an extremely easy going person so I can guarantee that breaking the ice isn't going to be a challenge with her. I had a multi-hour session with her and was confident enough to do so based on her overwhelmingly positive reviews. Plus I was celebrating something. She was dedicated to the session and didn't allow anything to distract her from pleasing and meeting my requests. I was very content. Even tough she's on a higher than average rate, I think she deserves it and I have placed her on my repeat list.Fortunately, I saw April last year at the Vogue agency rate. I was coming into town the next day. She was already becoming an internet phenom and Vogue added her to next day's schedule late afternoon. I jumped on it and said anytime that works. I figured dilly-dallying over time would just make the opportunity slip away. I personally don't have a preference for an afternoon or evening appointment.
I prefer April's physical stature. I like some curves especially when everything is firm. I think if one likes a sexy Barbie doll look head to toe April's your girl. She's very pretty and her natural breasts are very beautiful.
I think things started heating up here about two or so years ago. Mongerer88 was holding down the fort here. Some of us green board refugees realized we could have unfettered conversations about the Montreal scene. Jalimon and cloudsurf show up from time to time. Chubzy and others are well-known contributors.
I believe the girl was Gaia or Luna or whatever the fuck she was calling herself at the time (or perhaps it was Dasha). Both Gaia and Dasha at one time had their older reviews wiped clean. I think it coincided with them going Indy and becoming advertisers. Gaia was a superstar flake who seemed to waiver between fucking your brains out or just completely flaking on keeping the appointment without warning. Beautiful Dasha seems to be a 50/50 as to whether she is engaged in the session or not. At least with the former, you wouldn't be out any money. Sexually frustrated perhaps, but not out any money.
If memory serves me, you got burned just after the older reviews were removed. Anyways, they both had very hit or miss histories that didn't seem to be rectified with the fresh start on their review thread.Ah yes, Gaia / Luna. I made an attempt to see her twice and both times she flaked on me even though she sounded committed during the planning discussion. Actually, what really made me completely ignore her was her last response on to me. I don't have it anymore but her final text to me in response to my saying "I am disappointed and that was unprofessional" was uncharacteristically rude and self-absorbed. I didn't respond and never tried again. I didn't leave any mention of that on the board though. I think she recently set up an OF page and I vaguely recall she also fired back on some negative comments.
Agree about your take on the circumstances. While the flake caused disappointments, I prefer that over a terrible session.
Fortunately, I saw April last year at the Vogue agency rate. I was coming into town the next day. She was already becoming an internet phenom and Vogue added her to next day's schedule late afternoon. I jumped on it and said anytime that works. I figured dilly-dallying over time would just make the opportunity slip away. I personally don't have a preference for an afternoon or evening appointment.
I prefer April's physical stature. I like some curves especially when everything is firm. I think if one likes a sexy Barbie doll look head to toe April's your girl. She's very pretty and her natural breasts are very beautiful.Yeah she's still on my list haha. I really like her demeanor and she was very good. Have you seen Emma from XO? I personally didn't think she's all that but I make a mention of this because she's got similar body type as Paril, just as pretty and apparently a lot of folks have voiced very positive reviews.
From what I understand, sometimes a girl is so popular and in high demand that the agency will turn a blind eye if the girl decides to supplement her income by working independently for a higher rate. Now, I think technically this is prohibited by the agency, that a girl see clients privately outside agency schedules and hours. But sometimes, a girl is too good to pass up and you sort of have to deal with her working outside of agency hours if you want to continue having her on your roster as a draw or attraction. Meanwhile, when other girls are caught doing this, they are fired from the agency.
There was one popular agency girl who I only saw once at the actual agency. But I saw her several more times again, outside of agency hours. Only the first time was through the agency, but all the rest of the bookings I made privately with her. This allowed flexibility that I wouldn't get with the agency. The best part is that she continued to charge me her standard agency rate. But she didn't explicitly advertise as an Indy, it was all hush-hush. And I'm sure this still happens, I know for a fact that it does.
Why would someone take on the indy rate over the agency rate? The only reasons I can think of are related to the booking process. If you contact the girl as an indy, you can talk to her directly and also book whichever time works best for you rather than being stuck with having to work around the arbitrary agency schedules. You can book a time that is convenient for you.
There is no other advantage that I know of, it's not that the agencies don't offer a particular thing, it's just that you have to deal with the schedule of the agency. So if the girl you want to see is only working on a certain day and you are in town only on that day, you will be shit out of luck if she is fully booked. Whereas if she offers indy services, you may be willing to pay the extra for the convenience of booking her at time that works for you.I see. This is an interesting take. Thank you.
Now that I think about it some more, I think if I were an agency, I wouldn't be opposed to letting them setup their own indy page. The caveat would be that their Indy rate has to be higher than the agency rate. The clients who want a lower rate can some to the agency, the ones who want to meet outside of agency policies and operation hours can work direct. Makes sense actually. Everyone is happy.
I agree with a lot of what you said, we are on the same page. However, you are describing the ideal scenario for reviews. Reviews CAN be helpful sure, and ideally if everybody was honest, they would be even better. But that isn't the case. I've been burned by overly positive reviews a few times, and likewise, I was burned by a lack of a negative review. Sometimes a guy will see the girl, have a terrible session and never mention it on the board for fear of getting banned or retaliation by the white knights. I end up seeing her and having a shitty time, and later I find out that she was known to be awful but nobody dared to write a public review to warn others. Reviews can help you and hurt you, but I'm glad they exist.While the reviews are mainly for us guys and most of the women don't care for them, they can sometimes be very useful to new girls committed to an escort career. I can think of one remarkable turnaround by one Toronto SP. She was a rookie in 2019 I believe. She had about five-six weeks of mediocre reviews. Everyone noted she was a tall, blonde stunner, but several reviewers mentioned cold and distant.
All of a sudden, there was a major course correction and now she is one of the top agency escorts. Would that have happened without the reviews? Would it have happened so quickly? I'm guessing based on her photos she was booked steadily for a month and then the bookings started to tail off. The agency probably was able to use the reviews to constructively advise her. Of course, some hot escorts just offer mediocre service their entire careers.
Can anyone guess this escort's name?
I think things started heating up here about two or so years ago. Mongerer88 was holding down the fort here. Some of us green board refugees realized we could have unfettered conversations about the Montreal scene. Jalimon and cloudsurf show up from time to time. Chubzy and others are well-known contributors.
I believe the girl was Gaia or Luna or whatever the fuck she was calling herself at the time (or perhaps it was Dasha). Both Gaia and Dasha at one time had their older reviews wiped clean. I think it coincided with them going Indy and becoming advertisers. Gaia was a superstar flake Yeah, gaia was pretty much it, more recently, luna. / massage spa. Greek genes I believe.
My one time experience w / her was when, some time after she had went imdy for a decent stretch, for some reason she, for like maybe a month, hopped back for agency work. I booked her thruogh said agency, and I arrived to the loc, nice and early. And it was frigid. And I wait, waited, to prob 15 min past my appt time lets say, where I texted the agenvy. They reply then, that she hasnt even arrived (to the apt) and revealed, she hasnt even communicated w / them. So, I felt like a sitting duck standing at the door of the condo. Perhaps 45 min in, of waiting, I said screw this. Gave up cut my losses in time, as in it took me 20-30 min to get there, and required the same to leave. I initailly didn't want to give up. Plus I did not have a plan be girl that day.
From what I understand, sometimes a girl is so popular and in high demand that the agency will turn a blind eye if the girl decides to supplement her income by working independently for a higher rate. Now, I think technically this is prohibited by the agency, that a girl see clients privately outside agency schedules and hours. But sometimes, a girl is too good to pass up and you sort of have to deal with her working outside of agency hours if you want to continue having her on your roster as a draw or attraction. Meanwhile, when other girls are caught doing this, they are fired from the agency.To me this appears to be the case, in mtl, only the past 12-18 months. Where agency girls are now flexxing in a may I say, agency driven market. More mtl agency girls hopped onto social media and even the older / popular agency ones who had been around but wasnt active (heaven) have have come aboard. And its like how the nba is a players league. Stud players can get a coach fired these days or get other kinds of turn the blind eye things they were less likely to get in a diff era.
About 4 yrs ago in tor, to which is to me and perhaps others, was / is a more indy driven market, there was a indy girl who flew out to another city to do personal things on personal time, as well as on her social media, advertised a tour while at that city. She told me her agency suddenly owner gave her a call, basically telling her she can't do that. I forgot if an ultimatum was dropped, but she decided to leave the agency shortly after this.
Chubzy Maximus
06-22-20, 23:37
This is very important discussion.
Also often many will post their schedule. Which is great as some agency do not publish weekly schedule.I'm wondering how that works exactly. Say provider A days she's working sat and Sunday 6-11 at agency A. You text agency A when you see this on twitter on Tuesday saying "Hi, I want to book provider A on Sat from 6-7:30 please" only to be told "please reach out to us on Friday night by agency A. You reach out only to find out she's booked solid? Would imagine you would need to be well known by agency or the provider to get the favored time slot.
Yeah she's still on my list haha. I really like her demeanor and she was very good. Have you seen Emma from XO? I personally didn't think she's all that but I make a mention of this because she's got similar body type as Paril, just as pretty and apparently a lot of folks have voiced very positive reviews.I saw Emma and very true she has similar great figures. She's cool and sexy. But her friend Elly also from XO is much more sexually driven, will do CIM (with pleasure) and has similar body type as well.
Cheers,
Member #4665
06-23-20, 01:34
There is something some of the experienced Montral members don't understand. When a girl works as an independent her rates have to be lower or the same than the agency rates. This is called cutting out the middleman in business. For example you can buy affordable products made in China from Amazon, or you can buy them directly from China at a lower price. If you're familiar with international import export business.
When you deal directly with the escort the prices are lower because she doesn't have to pay for the room the agency is renting her. Of course some people prefer to use the agency because they don't have an apartment where they can receive the escort or because then they'd have to rent a hotel room. Also to certain degree the agency guarantees quality reliability and safety.
So if you deal directly with the girl and she charges you more than agency rate with no reason to justify this, then you just simply don't know how to negotiate prices. Or she is just taking advantage that you are nave. SORRY to have to say this, but there is no reason to pay higher independent rates. And also if someone charges 300 for one hour that doesn't mean that 3 hours are worth 900. Anyone who knows how to set prices knows that is ridiculous. Just think about it. Obviously longer bookings are negotiated as the amount of hours increase the rate per hour decreases. There are only very few opportunities in the world where anyone make $1500 for 5 hours, RARELY. Only if you can score 30 points over 5 guys who are 3 meters tall and weigh 120kilos. Once again if you don't understand this you need some experience negotiating price.
Also, the green form prohibits anyone from discussing pricing. That is obviously a power-play to give the price setters all the power. Customers also have a right to know and discuss the prices. If the customers are in complete ignorance about pricing than the service providers have an opportunity to unjustly take advantage of the customers.
Also, an agency cannot legally stop a girl from working on her own. Unless they sign a contract that says she cannot receive clients outside of the agency. Obviously no woman would ever sign such contract. However, since the agency presents the girl with opportunities and clients than the girl should have enough business acumen and manners and smart to work at least one or 2 days a week in the agency. The rest of the days the girls can advance her own career however she wishes to do so.Plus not all clients are interested in seeing the escort outside of the agency. Sure, the girls are fully booked but only in rush hours. I think a lot of people overestimate how busy the girls are.
There is something some of the experienced Montral members don't understand. When a girl works as an independent her rates have to be lower or the same than the agency rates. This is called cutting out the middleman in business. For example you can buy affordable products made in China from Amazon, or you can buy them directly from China at a lower price. If you're familiar with international import export business.
When you deal directly with the escort the prices are lower because she doesn't have to pay for the room the agency is renting her. Of course some people prefer to use the agency because they don't have an apartment where they can receive the escort or because then they'd have to rent a hotel room. Also to certain degree the agency guarantees quality reliability and safety.
So if you deal directly with the girl and she charges you more than agency rate with no reason to justify this, then you just simply don't know how to negotiate prices. Or she is just taking advantage that you are nave. SORRY to have to say this, but there is no reason to pay higher independent rates. And also if someone charges 300 for one hour that doesn't mean that 3 hours are worth 900. Anyone who knows how to set prices knows that is ridiculous. Just think about it. Obviously longer bookings are negotiated as the amount of hours increase the rate per hour decreases. There are only very few opportunities in the world where anyone make $1500 for 5 hours, RARELY. Only if you can score 30 points over 5 guys who are 3 meters tall and weigh 120kilos. Once again if you don't understand this you need some experience negotiating price.Yeah, you would think bro. Again and again.
In theory yeah, you'd think.
But in reality, have you looked at any of the popular regular 5 indy's in tor, or any 5 regular popular indy's in mtl, do they budge? They DO charge more what agency rates go for. Their position is if you book me directly, you will get my indy rate.
They all set their rates and their rates are 'not negotiable'. The girls are all nearly universally price fixed together like a frat or an OPEC. There aren't any price wars where girls hurt ea. Other. They trade info within each other and blacklist numbers, etc. They look out for ea. Other like a sisterhood. Do you understand that aspect? They retweet ea. Other to promote ea. Other. They fly / drive to visit ea. Other have social time / know ea. Other across diff cities / countries.
I don't claim to be one of those experienced mtl members, you refer to, but.
Go send Lolathebrat an DM telling her you want her for 3 hrs, and each hour, you going to pay her progressively less. The email will go unanswered. She'd leave you to book her at her agency rates. These girls know they are a commodity as well as hold the line so that it's a self fulfilling prophecy. And they are'nt past their prime, like 35+ etc. And these girls arent the 'carrying 20 lbs extra weight' types which would probably more likely be negotiatable, perhaps those are the ones you're mind is set is on, or perhaps also you hit up a pure agency-only girl during your session you propose a futre one off, multi hour out of agency booking. But you're casting it all over to be universal, and that does not apply and that's what I have the main issues with.
Your generalities are as if one were to propose when a mtl girl would fly to toronto to tour, she should be offering herself to toronto punters at her mtl pricing of 220 and if she don't, it don't make sense.
But it just doesn't happen. She charges toronto prices. That 350 1 h, two for 700 or whatever structure. That's the reality.
I see. This is an interesting take. Thank you.
Now that I think about it some more, I think if I were an agency, I wouldn't be opposed to letting them setup their own indy page. The caveat would be that their Indy rate has to be higher than the agency rate. The clients who want a lower rate can some to the agency, the ones who want to meet outside of agency policies and operation hours can work direct. Makes sense actually. Everyone is happy.Pcode, those were valid points in convenience and logistics made by dmm11.
I would also add that girls who do the agency / indy dual, have to deal with cancellations and those can come and hit like a storm. The agency shifts give them stable income because the cancellation gaps can be filled by the booker doing schedules. The girls who allocate their own indy day, do all their own scheduling and conversations, and a cancellation here and there can leave her with a day she was expecting a few hours of work, to be suddenly a lot less revenue as well as time to kill, (those 2 HR minimum requirements end up being a 2 HR cancellation) or time she could have just shown up for a robotic shift at the agency in the first place.
This is another reason and its not my own, to where there is the higher indy rate versus the agency one.
One of the benefits of direct booking is you can customize your experience if you are particular of a punter to enjoy that aspect, it's more available.
Say if you're one of the few who enjoy more than just telling the agency 'can I have her come by in a dress' and hope that gets conveyed, or you hope she brought one before she left the house that day.
With direct booking, as you can imagine, there is the ability to explore those scenarios much more because she has advance time to plan / get ready for you.
Ultimately, the decision on which to take is yours as those prices are for her hedging / maximizing the revenue efficiency of her time. Versus volitilaty at achieving that end for herself.
Member #4665
06-23-20, 06:28
Nah. I'm actually correct about the pricing. And the girls are really smart. The ones that are good at business will not scare the clients by being greedy. I'm not going to waste time proving I'm right because I know from real life experience trustworthy preferred clients negotiate reasonable rates. So let's say I want 1 hour of sex, 1. 5 hour of conversation, and. 5 hour of conversation and massage. Ok so the first hour is 300 for hard sex. That is just. That is hard work. Then Do you really think you can charge someone $600 1 one hour of conversation and. 5 hour of massage. Get real man. Probably less than 5% of the people in the country can make $600 in 2 hours for talking. That being said You do need levarage to negotiate. What kind of men have 1000 dollars for a three dollar date? Where do these men live? Saturn? We can research all salaries no one except very low percentage have so much money to burn. As a joke Are you guys paying $1,000 for 3 hours of escorting as a cover-up for other under-the-table business. Are you exchanging gold petroleum or some other foot powder commodity?
Post what you will, but at least my experience proves I'm right. You can keep discussing all you want but I think I said enough already. Don't get carried away by hot looks and big numbers. Apply the numbers to reality and to the standard rates in the country and then ask yourself if it makes sense? This is just hype like when musicians from three decades ago they all claim their legendary album was the best selling album of all time in the so-and-so category. Like all musician say that. If you say you charge 1500 for 4 hours and then say fully booked all of a sudden smart people going to believe you it's just hype. Sure maybe a few dodo birds payed all that but smart people are aware comparitavely what services really cost.
There is something some of the experienced Montral members don't understand. When a girl works as an independent her rates have to be lower or the same than the agency rates. This is called cutting out the middleman in business. For example you can buy affordable products made in China from Amazon, or you can buy them directly from China at a lower price. If you're familiar with international import export business.
When you deal directly with the escort the prices are lower because she doesn't have to pay for the room the agency is renting her. Of course some people prefer to use the agency because they don't have an apartment where they can receive the escort or because then they'd have to rent a hotel room. Also to certain degree the agency guarantees quality reliability and safety.
So if you deal directly with the girl and she charges you more than agency rate with no reason to justify this, then you just simply don't know how to negotiate prices. Or she is just taking advantage that you are nave. SORRY to have to say this, but there is no reason to pay higher independent rates. And also if someone charges 300 for one hour that doesn't mean that 3 hours are worth 900. Anyone who knows how to set prices knows that is ridiculous. Just think about it. Obviously longer bookings are negotiated as the amount of hours increase the rate per hour decreases. There are only very few opportunities in the world where anyone make $1500 for 5 hours, RARELY. Only if you can score 30 points over 5 guys who are 3 meters tall and weigh 120kilos. Once again if you don't understand this you need some experience negotiating price.
Also, the green form prohibits anyone from discussing pricing. That is obviously a power-play to give the price setters all the power. Customers also have a right to know and discuss the prices. If the customers are in complete ignorance about pricing than the service providers have an opportunity to unjustly take advantage of the customers.
Also, an agency cannot legally stop a girl from working on her own. Unless they sign a contract that says she cannot receive clients outside of the agency. Obviously no woman would ever sign such contract. However, since the agency presents the girl with opportunities and clients than the girl should have enough business acumen and manners and smart to work at least one or 2 days a week in the agency. The rest of the days the girls can advance her own career however she wishes to do so.Plus not all clients are interested in seeing the escort outside of the agency. Sure, the girls are fully booked but only in rush hours. I think a lot of people overestimate how busy the girls are.Why would their rate be lower as indy? If indy is offering incall, it usually means she is paying condo / apt rent per month. That runs anywhere from $600 to 1200 a month. As indy she also risk being cancelled on and less likely to fill those last minute slots. Also, I believe the whole point of being on your own is that you have enough demand / confidence to get a higher price, and subsequently earn more than working for others. Isn't that literally why people start working for themselves?
As for the hourly dropping when you book more time, I think many girls have grandfather rates for regulars.
Member #4665
06-23-20, 08:39
As for the hourly dropping when you book more time, I think many girls have grandfather rates for regulars.See, I told you. Grandfather rateS.
Why would their rate be lower as indy? Well maybe the Independent rate should not be lower but the same as the agencies. Okay so they Hopefully can pay their rent with the money they aren't giving the agency. Most guys would probably go for the agency girl because it's more affordable. Take a look at the products on Amazon, the lower price wins practically every time. It's not about me. Independent providers are losing their customers just for charging more than the agencies.
As indy she also risk being cancelled on and less likely to fill those last minute slots.
The other day my priest told me to get creative. So if one client cancels on an independent provider. Next time she should wise up and book tWo clients for the same hour. If both clients show up they can just have a threesome. My priest. What a fng genius. He should get married.
Go send Lolathebrat an DM telling her you want her for 3 hrs, and each hour, you going to pay her progressively less. The email will go unanswered. She'd leave you to book her at her agency rates. These girls know they are a commodity as well as hold the line so that it's a self fulfilling prophecy. Totally with you on this. These girls have other things to do then hanging out with you unless you pay full rate.
Via Twitter DM Lolathebrat asked me to bring extra 60 $ for her on top of XO rate. She wrote "you will see why I will deserve the extra gratification."
What a brat! But she was totally right. I so much hope she will get back soon!
There is something some of the experienced Montral members don't understand. When a girl works as an independent her rates have to be lower or the same than the agency rates. This is called cutting out the middleman in business. For example you can buy affordable products made in China from Amazon, or you can buy them directly from China at a lower price. If you're familiar with international import export business.
When you deal directly with the escort the prices are lower because she doesn't have to pay for the room the agency is renting her. Of course some people prefer to use the agency because they don't have an apartment where they can receive the escort or because then they'd have to rent a hotel room. Also to certain degree the agency guarantees quality reliability and safety..I think, as I was trying to say before, the reason they charge higher prices as indy is because they are probably asked / requested to charge higher prices by the agency they work with so that the agency can remain competitive. If they charge the same or lower, then that may remove the agency as the middleman entirely as you said. I mean, I am sure they can, and I hazard a guess that if it has been discovered that they charge the same or lower rate than agency, the agency might let them go (or maybe charge lower rate at the agency themselves but that would set an undesired precedence). In other words, I do not think the intent of going indy for them is to cut off the agency entirely. I actually think this is a good move for everyone from the business sense.
Also, as you said, even if the main mentality in this situation is "why would I pay for indy rate over agency rate for the same service", well the answer is at least the option is there in case one isn't able to get time within the agency hours. Example, maybe you want to book the girl weeks or months ahead of time. Agencies don't do that so you book through the indy channel. So yeah, for the Montreal dwellers the indiy rates don't make much sense but for myself who only visit every now and then, I appreciate having the option.
I do agree the math become undesirable when it comes to multiple hours. However, its probably something they'll figure out as well. Who knows, maybe girls don't really want multi hours generally.
Totally with you on this. These girls have other things to do then hanging out with you unless you pay full rate.
Via Twitter DM Lolathebrat asked me to bring extra 60 $ for her on top of XO rate. She wrote "you will see why I will deserve the extra gratification."
What a brat! But she was totally right. I so much hope she will get back soon!Yeah maybe we should stop talking and arguing about rates. I mean, it is what it is, it's working and it's hard to argue with something that works. And to each their own.
I propose we go back to discussing what's Montreal can offer so that I (selfishly) can make notes for my late summer / fall visit. Would anyone care to recommend someone to see who is active and close to LolaTheBrat's physical figure? I can tell you I've met the following ladies in the past (some of these go as far as 3 years ago, haha):
Vogue. Audry, Jade.
Velvet. Arielle.
Euphoria. Anna, Amanda, Katia, Annabelle, Erika, Heaven, Kiara.
XO. Dasha, Lana, Anastasia, Elisa.
I think you can still find the reviews of that I posted on the green board.
Member #4665
06-23-20, 18:07
Totally with you on this. These girls have other things to do then hanging out with you unless you pay full rate.
Via Twitter DM Lolathebrat asked me to bring extra 60 $ for her on top of XO rate. She wrote "you will see why I will deserve the extra gratification."
What a brat! But she was totally right. I so much hope she will get back soon!
you need leverage to negotiate. What does leverage probably mean in this case? obviously leverage means money. So another words if you make a good contract where she's making a lot of money that can be used to receive more Time for the amount of money you offered her.You will not receive a discount if you're going to then go and spend your discount On another girl.
I would never negotiate through private messages. Plus I don't need to be rude And offer something she would not like. I would just wait to see what rates she offers me. I could politely say What sort of deal I expected. And then I would take her offer or leave it politely.
Most men here are working hard Their whole life. They probably don't make more than $100-$200 a day. They wouldn't pay 1060 for 3 hours. Why such inequality? So you would work 5 to 10 days (8 Times 10 = 80 hours) and spend it in 3 hours.
Jalimon, If you are so experienced Then I don't believe you would pay 1060 for 3 hours. Sorry, but I'm going to call you out on that. I'm telling you from experience The prices advertised For the top girls, if you know how to negotiate with leverage, are different from the real prices, At least Sometimes and Only for some locals. It depends sometimes the advertised prices areActually correct.
It's funny how it seems experienced mongers are trying to hide and lie about this obvious fact. And yes be careful with your money because you will find people who think you're dumb enough to pay 1500 for 4 hours. Just keep looking and you'll find most of these girls are down to earth when it comes to money. The girls themselves will make you a good offer. And a lot of them will feel bad if they are taking money from you that they don't deserve so much they will turn your payment down or return your money.The girls want you to keep coming back, they don't want you go broke.
Plus, to be honest 90% of the times I wouldn't even be interested in having sex 3 hours straight. Also I think it's true what someone said, sometimes a girl may feel uncomfortable making a long booking with someone she doesn't know.
Yeah she's still on my list haha. I really like her demeanor and she was very good. Have you seen Emma from XO? I personally didn't think she's all that but I make a mention of this because she's got similar body type as Paril, just as pretty and apparently a lot of folks have voiced very positive reviews.Mon frère, I'm surprised you have seen Emma, Gaia / Luna and April. You said you prefer the slim / slender girls. You must have a penchant for big naturals on occasion.
Lola would be a good choice for you. She seems like a blast. She might be a bit skinny for me, but I like her face (the glimpses I see) and hair.
Who's this Paril you speak of?
Jalimon, If you are so experienced Then I don't believe you would pay 1060 for 3 hours. Sorry, but I'm going to call you out on that. I'm telling you from experience The prices advertised For the top girls, if you know how to negotiate with leverage, are different from the real prices, At least Sometimes and Only for some locals. It depends sometimes the advertised prices are Actually correct.
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Plus, to be honest 90% of the times I wouldn't even be interested in having sex 3 hours straight. Also I think it's true what someone said, sometimes a girl may feel uncomfortable making a long booking with someone she doesn't know.I am a special case I never do more than one hour. I never go for high price indy. The only thing I have done is multiple partner session with many girl. Where the girl got their regular hourly rate. I have met many girl this way. And we would always finish the night in a restaurant (where no social time was paid, only food / bar bill). Last one was last summer so it's been a while. But it was epic! 4 dudes 5 girls grrrr.
I have only succeed a few times with particular girl to extend a one hour session to a restaurant where again I only pay for food / booze. Tried with many others but received a no pay no go haha.
I am one who think, beside very few exception, there is absolutely no difference in service from a 220/240 reputable agency then from a 500/ hour indy.
There is enough fish in Montreal at every rate to stop talking rate.
Yeah maybe we should stop talking and arguing about rates. I mean, it is what it is, it's working and it's hard to argue with something that works. And to each their own.
I propose we go back to discussing what's Montreal can offer so that I (selfishly) can make notes for my late summer / fall visit. Would anyone care to recommend someone to see who is active and close to LolaTheBrat's physical figure? I can tell you I've met the following ladies in the past (some of these go as far as 3 years ago, haha):
Vogue. Audry, Jade.
Velvet. Arielle.
Euphoria. Anna, Amanda, Katia, Annabelle, Erika, Heaven, Kiara.
XO. Dasha, Lana, Anastasia, Elisa.
I think you can still find the reviews of that I posted on the green board.With Lola's figure I would suggest you Annabelle https://twitter.com/rose_anna_belle And she is awesome. Have not seen her yet but I have good intel on her.
From the one that are working now the one I would see in a heartbeat are:
XO: ELLY, Priscilla.
Euphoria: Annabelle, Amanda, Candice, heaven, Khloe, Marylin and Ruby.
I propose we go back to discussing what's Montreal can offer so that I (selfishly) can make notes for my late summer / fall visit. Would anyone care to recommend someone to see who is active and close to LolaTheBrat's physical figure? I can tell you I've met the following ladies in the past (some of these go as far as 3 years ago, haha):LOL.
I've had my fancy for ysabella at vog. Tall, slender. But more to the point anyone with a 32" chest or (under), with 5'8" (and above) is nearing the realm of model frame. This is near Brats zone.
But as you can see where brat is rather modest up top in the cup, which is often the case w / slender frames, ysabella is no exception too, but she has paid for hers.
Looks like a fine job as any, at least on the agency photos. But too pronounced still, if I had to complain. Maybe she's thinks she will grow into it by the time she's 26-27, but whatever.
Mon frre, I'm surprised you have seen Emma, Gaia / Luna and April. You said you prefer the slim / slender girls. You must have a penchant for big naturals on occasion.
Lola would be a good choice for you. She seems like a blast. She might be a bit skinny for me, but I like her face (the glimpses I see) and hair.
Who's this Paril you speak of?Sorry that's a typo. I meant "April".
Chubzy Maximus
06-24-20, 01:37
Anyone see her yet?
Good posts, Frank11 You've asked where those men lived, on Saturn. Actually, as per Austin Powers movie they live 'on Uranus'.
LOL.
I've had my fancy for ysabella at vog. Tall, slender. But more to the point anyone with a 32" chest or (under), with 5'8" (and above) is nearing the realm of model frame. This is near Brats zone.
But as you can see where brat is rather modest up top in the cup, which is often the case w / slender frames, ysabella is no exception too, but she has paid for hers.
Looks like a fine job as any, at least on the agency photos. But too pronounced still, if I had to complain. Maybe she's thinks she will grow into it by the time she's 26-27, but whatever.Yeah, I see what you mean. She's on my list as well. Tried to see her last time I was there but she wasn't around. Well if she's still around when I am there later this summer, I'll report back to this group.
With Lola's figure I would suggest you Annabelle https://twitter.com/rose_anna_belle And she is awesome. Have not seen her yet but I have good intel on her.
From the one that are working now the one I would see in a heartbeat are:
XO: ELLY, Priscilla.
Euphoria: Annabelle, Amanda, Candice, heaven, Khloe, Marylin and Ruby.Thanks, I am copying your list haha, although I have seen some of them in the past.
Yeah I have seen Annabelle. She's very toned and I feel she is more down-to-earth than LolaTheBrat, not that there is anything wrong with Lola. It's just the way she carries herself is a bit less energetic, which worked for me.
See, I told you. Grandfather rateS.
Well maybe the Independent rate should not be lower but the same as the agencies. Okay so they Hopefully can pay their rent with the money they aren't giving the agency. Most guys would probably go for the agency girl because it's more affordable. Take a look at the products on Amazon, the lower price wins practically every time. It's not about me. Independent providers are losing their customers just for charging more than the agencies.
The other day my priest told me to get creative. So if one client cancels on an independent provider. Next time she should wise up and book tWo clients for the same hour. If both clients show up they can just have a threesome. My priest. What a fng genius. He should get married.I'd never pay for a 2 hour booking where the overall hourly isn't lower. I. E. She has an hourly rate of $300, but her 2 hour rate is $600 won't ever get my business. I've only ever booked 3 hours once, and probably never again. Right now, I do agree girls are losing business like mine by having these static hourly rates. They only seem to be dropping it at the 3 hour mark or more.
Grandfather rate is only benficial if the client brings in more business because of it. A new cient would almost never get a grandfather rate because he'll probably be blocked before he can propose something or another.
Anyway, I will probably pay Cersei a cisit in July.
Member #4665
06-24-20, 13:49
Grandfather rate is only benficial if the client brings in more business because of it. A new cient would almost never get a grandfather rate because he'll probably be blocked before he can propose something or another.
Anyway, I will probably pay Cersei a cisit in July.Yeah grandfathers are loyal Like dogs So they keep coming backTo the girl. Grandfathers have enough trust And know how to negotiate, If she is going to say no Then don't even ask. Grandfathers know how to develop a business friendship with the girl. She has to be okay with spending time with you, not just sex. Doesn't work if you want to see a different girl every time. First hour cost $300 for skilled sex. 2nd hour was just talking so it has to cost less. Just find the girl that will tell you these things herself so you don't have to bargain Nor negotiate.
To all the doubters and critical thinkers, I'm just telling you something that is true. Instead of trying to prove me wrong Or dismissing me, figure out how you can make it happen. Try it for yourself. And only if you're Wise enough to be like a grandfather.Doesn't work all the times. Don't be discouraged. Of course not everyone wants to be a grandfather.
Cersei isReally hot LOL.
DontMindMe11
06-24-20, 19:16
Yeah grandfathers are loyal Like dogs So they keep coming backTo the girl. Grandfathers have enough trust And know how to negotiate, If she is going to say no Then don't even ask. Grandfathers know how to develop a business friendship with the girl. She has to be okay with spending time with you, not just sex. Doesn't work if you want to see a different girl every time. First hour cost $300 for skilled sex. 2nd hour was just talking so it has to cost less. Just find the girl that will tell you these things herself so you don't have to bargain Nor negotiate.
To all the doubters and critical thinkers, I'm just telling you something that is true. Instead of trying to prove me wrong Or dismissing me, figure out how you can make it happen. Try it for yourself. And only if you're Wise enough to be like a grandfather.Doesn't work all the times. Don't be discouraged. Of course not everyone wants to be a grandfather.
Cersei isReally hot LOL.Multi-hour sessions are so overrated. Usually as soon as I bust the first nut, I'm already planning my exit. I would rather have an action packed 1 hour session than a multi-hour where I'm paying the girl to have a chat.
Multi-hour sessions are so overrated. Usually as soon as I bust the first nut, I'm already planning my exit. I would rather have an action packed 1 hour session than a multi-hour where I'm paying the girl to have a chat.I tend to agree with you on one hour sessions. Sometimes 90 minutes allows for some relaxed touching and kissing. If you're in the mood for two rounds, 90 minutes isn't such a rush. Escorts tell me some guys are so determined to bust two nuts in an hour session, that they seem to be in a race to bust the first nut the minute they walk in the door.
I think where things get interesting is when you are not in a First World mongering market. You can many times just chill with a local Latin American or Asian girl and it's not on an hourly clock.
Chubzy Maximus
06-24-20, 22:32
I tend to agree with you on one hour sessions. Sometimes 90 minutes allows for some relaxed touching and kissing. If you're in the mood for two rounds, 90 minutes isn't such a rush. Escorts tell me some guys are so determined to bust two nuts in an hour session, that they seem to be in a race to bust the first nut the minute they walk in the door.
I think where things get interesting is when you are not in a First World mongering market. You can many times just chill with a local Latin American or Asian girl and it's not on an hourly clock.I like busting 2. One is never enough. Sometimes I don't make it, rarely I just didn't want it. The gems are the ones who try to get a third nut popped. If I'm iffy about someone by reading bipolar reviews, I'll do an hour and see how it goes.
Wyatt, when will we tango in Rio again?
Member #4665
06-25-20, 03:08
Alright guys I'm going to elaborate further on the prices. I got for 1000 the entire evening, then sleeping together, and then a 2nd round until early afternoon. I'm not saying this to brag. I wrote exactly what I paid without lowering the price to seem cool. She is one of the top providers. Tall and thin and beautiful and young. She was happy and I was happy. Making 1000 in less than 24 hours is an extremely difficult feat to accomplish. I don't usually do this overnight thing. So normally I get 2 to 3 hours for 300. It depends on what date is. Like what do we have to do tomorrow? How drunk are we?
The only reason I'm sharing this with you is because I hear people saying 3 hours worth a thousand. Some people think overnight is worth 2500. And everybody is raising prices in a time of crisis. And all I see is greed greed greed from every side involved in the business. Even the guys are greedy. There's more to life than money.
No I'm not lying. Save yourselves all the BS criticizing my post. It's true okay. I have no reason to lie. Don't believe all these phony inflated rate published over the place. And that is a really low blow when someone says you can't discuss rates. Really, why not? Suuuuuuuuuuuuure.
How is it done? Grandfather rates. Repeat customer. I'm good client. I created a good business relationship. I also offered my professional and personal friendship.
Would be nice if everybody stop flashing their cash around and gave their neighbor a hug. And chill out with the housing crisis rental prices. Please! Free hugs for everyone okay on the house. I hope honest posts like this make the scene a better place. For everyone! Both providers and clients.Obviously, there are also a lot of honest hard-working people not just greed.
Chubzy Maximus
06-25-20, 04:04
Anyone see this chic.
Thanks.
Chubzy Maximus
06-25-20, 04:16
Alright guys I'm going to elaborate further on the prices. I got for 1000 the entire evening, then sleeping together, and then a 2nd round until early afternoon. I'm not saying this to brag. I wrote exactly what I paid without lowering the price to seem cool. She is one of the top providers. Tall and thin and beautiful and young. She was happy and I was happy. Making 1000 in less than 24 hours is an extremely difficult feat to accomplish. I don't usually do this overnight thing. So normally I get 2 to 3 hours for 300. It depends on what date is. Like what do we have to do tomorrow? How drunk are we?
The only reason I'm sharing this with you is because I hear people saying 3 hours worth a thousand. Some people think overnight is worth 2500. And everybody is raising prices in a time of crisis. And all I see is greed greed greed from every side involved in the business. Even the guys are greedy. There's more to life than money.
No I'm not lying. Save yourselves all the BS criticizing my post. It's true okay. I have no reason to lie. Don't believe all these phony inflated rate published over the place. And that is a really low blow when someone says you can't discuss rates. Really, why not? Suuuuuuuuuuuuure.
How is it done? Grandfather rates. Repeat customer. I'm good client. I created a good business relationship. I also offered my professional and personal friendship.
Would be nice if everybody stop flashing their cash around and gave their neighbor a hug. And chill out with the housing crisis rental prices. Please! Free hugs for everyone okay on the house. I hope honest posts like this make the scene a better place. For everyone! Both providers and clients.Obviously, there are also a lot of honest hard-working people not just greed.Shit man, $1000's a lot. I'm pretty sure some dudes get freebies. Maybe not by the career chics, and peeps prob know who these chics are. But the low profile ones in an agency, the ones who prob get little reviews and are better if not equivalent to the "superstars"? I'm sure guys have had these chics staying longer, coming back after shifts, going out for drinks, coming back for some naught naughty when not working for free? Makes no sense to me to say I got this much for say amount of cash? Just saying? Better off talking about who to see and who not to.
Member #4665
06-25-20, 18:15
Shit man, $1000's a lot. I'm pretty sure some dudes get freebies. Maybe not by the career chics, and peeps prob know who these chics are. But the low profile ones in an agency, the ones who prob get little reviews and are better if not equivalent to the "superstars"? I'm sure guys have had these chics staying longer, coming back after shifts, going out for drinks, coming back for some naught naughty when not working for free? Makes no sense to me to say I got this much for say amount of cash? Just saying? Better off talking about who to see and who not to.Like you say, Yes 1000 is a lot. Only did this once. I usually pay 300. I also think 300 is a lot.
In reply to your comment, yes some people probably do get freebies. I don't.
I only talk about the prices, so customers can be informed and not get taken advantage of by unfair prices. For example, Just a few posts ago some guy was saying 3 hours was worth a thousand and some people were saying that is non-negotiable. Not always, according to my experience.
You say it makes no sense talking about prices...Sorry about that... However, Some people think discussing prices is in the customers favor and is a valuable Informative conversation. I think a healthy conversation about prices will also benefit the providers.
Shit man, $1000's a lot. I'm pretty sure some dudes get freebies. Maybe not by the career chics, and peeps prob know who these chics are. But the low profile ones in an agency, the ones who prob get little reviews and are better if not equivalent to the "superstars"? Freebies as like free sessions? Nope that does not happen. But you are absolutely right saying low profile girl are very often equivalent to superstars. The amount you pay has no impact on service. The amount you pay has an impact on having better chances to get the service you ask for. But then again I got burned by high priced indy and will not enter that territory ever.
Still if you will not get freebies I can assure you if you repeat with those low profile girl enough you will get benefit. I am rarely ask for extra like greek, CIM, cimws and very often get a longer session or time in restaurant or bar for free social time (as long as I pay the tab).
But that was when I was very active. For the last 6 months I have been pretty much completely inactive and the girls are not returning my message haha. It's OK for me as long as I am long longer an active prospect I am being ignored.
I may be back at it if things return to some kind of normal.
Cheers.
Chubzy Maximus
06-26-20, 04:35
Like you say, Yes 1000 is a lot. Only did this once. I usually pay 300. I also think 300 is a lot.
In reply to your comment, yes some people probably do get freebies. I don't.
I only talk about the prices, so customers can be informed and not get taken advantage of by unfair prices. For example, Just a few posts ago some guy was saying 3 hours was worth a thousand and some people were saying that is non-negotiable. Not always, according to my experience.
You say it makes no sense talking about prices...Sorry about that... However, Some people think discussing prices is in the customers favor and is a valuable Informative conversation. I think a healthy conversation about prices will also benefit the providers.Are the man who posts here as well tried SA in MTL and how good luck with good prices too. Would be cool to get his perspective.
Alright guys I'm going to elaborate further on the prices. I got for 1000 the entire evening, then sleeping together, and then a 2nd round until early afternoon. I'm not saying this to brag. I wrote exactly what I paid without lowering the price to seem cool. She is one of the top providers. Tall and thin and beautiful and young. She was happy and I was happy. Making 1000 in less than 24 hours is an extremely difficult feat to accomplish. I don't usually do this overnight thing. So normally I get 2 to 3 hours for 300. It depends on what date is. Like what do we have to do tomorrow? How drunk are we?
The only reason I'm sharing this with you is because I hear people saying 3 hours worth a thousand. Some people think overnight is worth 2500. And everybody is raising prices in a time of crisis. And all I see is greed greed greed from every side involved in the business. Even the guys are greedy. There's more to life than money.
No I'm not lying. Save yourselves all the BS criticizing my post. It's true okay. I have no reason to lie. Don't believe all these phony inflated rate published over the place. And that is a really low blow when someone says you can't discuss rates. Really, why not? Suuuuuuuuuuuuure.
How is it done? Grandfather rates. Repeat customer. I'm good client. I created a good business relationship. I also offered my professional and personal friendship.
Would be nice if everybody stop flashing their cash around and gave their neighbor a hug. And chill out with the housing crisis rental prices. Please! Free hugs for everyone okay on the house. I hope honest posts like this make the scene a better place. For everyone! Both providers and clients.Obviously, there are also a lot of honest hard-working people not just greed.We all want different things, which can impact the transnational aspect of booking. What you are offering lends itself to grandfathering. On the otherhand, I am not really interested in overnighte. I'd be gone long before I fell asleep. Likewise, I don't want to friends whose services I'll be paying for at so. I can get behind cultivating a professional relationship, but only to to a certain point. Beyond that point, I wouldn't be able to keep seeing that person without caring in a why that isn't conductive to pay for play.
All I want is sub $300 HR and Sub $400 90 m. By sub I mean any amount under even if it was just $10.
I'm starting to doubt the scene is going to "recover" from this. Increased prices probably won't drop off this year. Agency only will be getting my miney as a result. I'm terrible at negotiating anyway. Not my style.
Member #4665
06-26-20, 20:11
Are the man who posts here as well tried SA in MTL and how good luck with good prices too. Would be cool to get his perspective.Yes, if anyone has any interesting pricing stories, we want to hear about them. Guys if you have some hot information to post. You don't always have 2 reveal your identity. Sometimes forums allow users to have more than one account. Use anonymous nickname.
I think we can keep the conversation civil. Sometimes people get nervous talking about money. That is normal. No need to worry.
Guys and the girls in Montreal are very honest too. When I was young and dumb I gave her 500 for 2 hours. On her own initiative she gave me the money back and said I usually just charge 300. Of course, I called her back for another session and gave her all the money she returned to me. She helped me out, so I had to help her out.
With another girl it was 240 for an hour and I Told her I would include a tip for a total of 280. She gave me the tip back. And she wouldn't take it.
I learned A lot of women are hard-working and honest. They prefer to make business connections and build their network instead of taking advantage of their customers, Or just "staying quiet".
Chubzy Maximus
06-26-20, 23:47
Yes, if anyone has any interesting pricing stories, we want to hear about them. Guys if you have some hot information to post. You don't always have 2 reveal your identity. Sometimes forums allow users to have more than one account. Use anonymous nickname.
I think we can keep the conversation civil. Sometimes people get nervous talking about money. That is normal. No need to worry.
Guys and the girls in Montreal are very honest too. When I was young and dumb I gave her 500 for 2 hours. On her own initiative she gave me the money back and said I usually just charge 300. Of course, I called her back for another session and gave her all the money she returned to me. She helped me out, so I had to help her out.
With another girl it was 240 for an hour and I Told her I would include a tip for a total of 280. She gave me the tip back. And she wouldn't take it.
I learned A lot of women are hard-working and honest. They prefer to make business connections and build their network instead of taking advantage of their customers, Or just "staying quiet".One time, I booked a girl for 90 min, and her driver came half an hour late! But we only talked that extra time. She was very pretty.
DontMindMe11
06-27-20, 00:29
Anyone see this chic.
Thanks.Lanna at VOG used to be Charlie at Euphoria. Charlie has reviews on the green board.
Member #4665
06-27-20, 00:31
Cool story about the driver. Maybe he fell asleep waiting for her. lol
Maybe the guys who get freebies maybe they are the escort's boyfriend. Does That qualify as a freebie. Freelove. :)
Alright guys I'm going to elaborate further on the prices. I got for 1000 the entire evening, then sleeping together, and then a 2nd round until early afternoon. I'm not saying this to brag. I wrote exactly what I paid without lowering the price to seem cool. She is one of the top providers. Tall and thin and beautiful and young. She was happy and I was happy. Making 1000 in less than 24 hours is an extremely difficult feat to accomplish. I don't usually do this overnight thing. So normally I get 2 to 3 hours for 300. It depends on what date is. Like what do we have to do tomorrow? How drunk are we?
The only reason I'm sharing this with you is because I hear people saying 3 hours worth a thousand. Some people think overnight is worth 2500. And everybody is raising prices in a time of crisis. And all I see is greed greed greed from every side involved in the business. Even the guys are greedy. There's more to life than money.
No I'm not lying. Save yourselves all the BS criticizing my post. It's true okay. I have no reason to lie. Don't believe all these phony inflated rate published over the place. And that is a really low blow when someone says you can't discuss rates. Really, why not? Suuuuuuuuuuuuure..I don't really understand why anyone cares how much he spent. He could have spent 1000 of butt ugly SW for 5 minute or a Victoria secret model for the whole night.
Its his money, his time, his review. That's the point of this forum what our experiences.
All that needs to be said is good for and thank you for the info.
One time, I booked a girl for 90 min, and her driver came half an hour late! But we only talked that extra time. She was very pretty.Have any of you guys banged a working girl and she was enjoying it so much that she did not realize (or ignored) that time was up?
Have any of you guys banged a working girl and she was enjoying it so much that she did not realize (or ignored) that time was up?I can only wish I was that good. Haha. However, I have had a few occasions where they lost track but not to the point that time was totally up. I've had sessions where the girl felt like time "flew".
Chubzy Maximus
06-27-20, 14:56
Got some intel from solid boys that Leyla from euphoria is a rock star. Has anyone seen her and could you give some feedback? Another source said she was kinda similar to Priscilla at XO. Anyone seen both and can give comparison?
I liked Priscilla a lot, very naturally pretty. Not one to lather on a ton of make up simply because she doesn't need it. Has pretty facial features and def well above average service level. So def interested to see how Leyla compares.
Also sienna has been getting good reviews on the green board, and her pricing is at 'premium, anyone seen?
If you get a chance to see Elly from XO, I think you should go for it. Here's why I say so: for me, she was heavily pushed by some of our contemporaries on the green board. Some of these ladies who get a similar push by the same boys tend to, well to be blunt, have for my tastes a bit of a Prima Donna complex sometimes. I didn't really get that vibe from Elly, seemed really down to earth. Her service level was well above average. Next to my absolute fav Sasha jo, I'the say Elly was very into the session and making sure I was having fun. There was absolutely no sense of trying to knickle and dime a guy during the session.
Liliana from XO is another solid bet from XO that I liked with a similar chilled out non pretentious vibe to Elly, would def see both if possible.
For me the absolute best of 2020 was Lexis at euphoria. Guys should know she's got a decent amount of tats though. Would be my vote for SP of the year.
Chubzy Maximus
06-27-20, 15:23
Freebies as like free sessions? Nope that does not happen. But you are absolutely right saying low profile girl are very often equivalent to superstars. The amount you pay has no impact on service. The amount you pay has an impact on having better chances to get the service you ask for. But then again I got burned by high priced indy and will not enter that territory ever.
Still if you will not get freebies I can assure you if you repeat with those low profile girl enough you will get benefit. I am rarely ask for extra like greek, CIM, cimws and very often get a longer session or time in restaurant or bar for free social time (as long as I pay the tab).
But that was when I was very active. For the last 6 months I have been pretty much completely inactive and the girls are not returning my message haha. It's OK for me as long as I am long longer an active prospect I am being ignored.
I may be back at it if things return to some kind of normal.
Cheers.Jal, my opinion is that if your not paying for it, it's not a session let alone a free session? Also, sometimes it does happen. Not everyday, but every some time some brothers get lucky. Obviously it's not going to be from a lady who charges over $300/ hour and has these 24 hour fly me to you packages, from those who heavily advertise revenue garnering services like only fans on twitter. Maybe someone will get lucky with these pros but there are a lot of girls who have a regular day job and what not and are I'm not sure how to describe them? Low profile? Not fussed? Just doing this for extra cash? Not sure dude, LOL? But meet up with their friends with guys at a bar, have hook ups. It does happen, LOL!
Chubzy Maximus
06-27-20, 15:27
Have any of you guys banged a working girl and she was enjoying it so much that she did not realize (or ignored) that time was up?No, but one time this chic let me take a shit, shave and a shower at her place before I got on a flight which I really appreciated. This was also at no extra charge.
Hello everyone,
Anyone have been with her? https://escortsxo.com/talent/arianna/.
Hello everyone,
Anyone have been with her? https://escortsxo.com/talent/arianna/.I have heard from very good and reliable friend that she's a Jennifer with bigger boobs. That remains to be proved but I trust the guys who wrote me that.
I am quite interested now haha.
I have heard from very good and reliable friend that she's a Jennifer with bigger boobs. That remains to be proved but I trust the guys who wrote me that.
I am quite interested now haha.Not all of us can recall the Montreal scene in great detail. Which agency and what years? I vaguely recall a star named Jennifer. Thanks.
Not all of us can recall the Montreal scene in great detail. Which agency and what years? I vaguely recall a star named Jennifer. Thanks.Sorry. Ex Jennifer Euphoria / XO. She was so unreliable but my god so good and beautiful!! Retired for maybe 2 years now.
Chubzy Maximus
06-28-20, 17:49
I have heard from very good and reliable friend that she's a Jennifer with bigger boobs. That remains to be proved but I trust the guys who wrote me that.
I am quite interested now haha.No chance that's the former Elle from vogue Jal?
Lanna at VOG used to be Charlie at Euphoria. Charlie has reviews on the green board.If Lanna is indeed Charlie at Euphoria, I would not recommend her IF optic is important to you. I spent one hour with her last year at Euphoria. To me, she's a 4. That's obviously a subjective thing. I believe the agency did photoshop her photos. She provide pretty good service, but I couldn't DFK her long (few secs was enough) because her face was not attractive to me at all. Her face and her somewhat sagging tits are so not my type that I couldn't even cum. I should have given her 20 for taxis fare and asked her to leave at the beginning, but I kind of feel bad at that time. I have NEVER asked a lady to leave in all my mongering activities in MTL. For some reasons, I feel bad doing that. Has anyone of you done that? How would the agency react?
If Lanna is indeed Charlie at Euphoria, I would not recommend her IF optic is important to you. I spent one hour with her last year at Euphoria. To me, she's a 4. That's obviously a subjective thing. I believe the agency did photoshop her photos.Of the 50 or so girls I have seen from the big agencies in Montreal, I don't think I have ever seen an unattractive girl. Maybe they weren't exactly my type, but I never dreaded kissing them. And yes looks are subjective but I met the last Charlie at Euphoria and I thought she was attractive. To me, she looked like her photos. But that is what review boards are for to get different perspectives.
As for the 2nd part of your post, I have never asked a girl to leave. Again I have never found one to be unattractive. There were a few that I thought had bad attitudes or were not in the right frame of mind. But I was worried what the agency would say and the "he said she said" aspect of the conversation. Also, I was once on a three way conversation with an agency and the SW when the Booker was yelling at the SW because she was late (made me feel bad for the SW). So since most of encounters are positive and I want to maintain good relations with the Agencies, I have never asked a girl to leave.
Interesting post and good questions.
Mighty Spearsman
06-29-20, 05:27
Just saw on Nala Baez's Twitter account that she has left EscortsXO and will be available at VOG beginning tomorrow Monday June 29. Interestingly, her height has increased from being 5'1" at XO to 5'3" at VOG. At the rate she's growing, she'll be the same height as me (6 feet tall) by the time the US-Canada border reopens, LOL.
I've attached a photo from her Twitter account posted just before the quarantine. Maybe VOG measured her while she was wearing those heels.
No chance that's the former Elle from vogue Jal?No clue sorry. Vogue (now Vog) is a mystery to me as I never do outcall. I live to far out of the city for them.
Sorry. Ex Jennifer Euphoria / XO. She was so unreliable but my god so good and beautiful!! Retired for maybe 2 years now.Yes, I have heard of her. I heard Jennifer was a very beautiful blonde. She likely was one of the top escorts in town (if not the top) during her time. I believe she was Indy for awhile after agency work, but was almost impossible to book if you weren't a regular or requesting several hours.
I just wanted to make sure. These names get recycled often. Thanks.
Just saw on Nala Baez's Twitter account that she has left EscortsXO and will be available at VOG beginning tomorrow Monday June 29. Interestingly, her height has increased from being 5'1" at XO to 5'3" at VOG. At the rate she's growing, she'll be the same height as me (6 feet tall) by the time the US-Canada border reopens, LOL.It seems like when a girl changes agencies the new agency tinkers with their descriptions. They get younger, they get bustier and they get taller. Some even drop ten pounds just crossing the street to the new incall location. LOL.
It seems like when a girl changes agencies the new agency tinkers with their descriptions. They get younger, they get bustier and they get taller. Some even drop ten pounds just crossing the street to the new incall location. LOL.They probably copy / paste the profile of a previous girl to create the new one but forgot to adjust a few details.
Took me a while to realize that when you work as an escort you no longer age. Start at 20, work for 3 years, retire at 20. Cool no? Haha.
This is why forums are important.
They probably copy / paste the profile of a previous girl to create the new one but forgot to adjust a few details.I think you are being too generous to the agencies. The differences in descriptions are almost always tweaks. Nala went from 5'1" to 5'3". She didn't become 5'8".
Mighty Spearsman
06-30-20, 22:40
It seems like when a girl changes agencies the new agency tinkers with their descriptions. They get younger, they get bustier and they get taller. Some even drop ten pounds just crossing the street to the new incall location. LOL.Either Nala or someone at VOG saw my post, because Nala is now listed as 5'1" on VOG's website.
Member #4665
07-01-20, 15:00
Nala went from 5'1" to 5'3". I think maybe Nala actually grew taller. As professional researchers we cannot dismiss any of the possibilities. Dennis Rodman Grew from 1. 73m (5.9 ft) to 2.1m (6.8ft) at age 20.
I think this happens when people wear those air Jordan basketball shoes. The expensive ones. Those shoes bring about unexpected growth spurt.
I think maybe Nala actually grew taller. As professional researchers we cannot dismiss any of the possibilities. Dennis Rodman Grew from 1. 73m (5.9 ft) to 2.1m (6.8ft) at age 20.
I think this happens when people wear those air Jordan basketball shoes. The expensive ones. Those shoes bring about unexpected growth spurt.These ladies are all too familiar with growth spurts. Ba-dum-bump!
DethManRulz
07-01-20, 20:31
Hey there,
Has anyone seen Lady Zoe from twitter? Apparently she worked for an agency before (though not one of the main 2). At LadyZoeMtl on twitter.
Curious, as she looks good.
Chubzy Maximus
07-02-20, 12:04
Is that how you spell it? It's an agency I've never seen them advertise on the green board. Anyone have any experience with them.
Hey there,
Has anyone seen Lady Zoe from twitter? Apparently she worked for an agency before (though not one of the main 2). At LadyZoeMtl on twitter.
Curious, as she looks good.To make it easy: https://mobile.twitter.com/LadyZoeMtl.
I hear a lot about her these days. I will have good intel on her soon.
Cheers.
DethManRulz
07-02-20, 18:11
To make it easy: https://mobile.twitter.com/LadyZoeMtl.
I hear a lot about her these days. I will have good intel on her soon.
Cheers.Great, hope you'll post what you find out about her!
You guys brought up the topic of agencies tinkering a girl description when she changes agency. In fact, MontrealXXXtase even tinkered its own girl description after she left the agency for one year and came back. Case in point, I met Rachel almost 3 years ago when she was listed as new and 18 years old on XXXtase website. She was clearly 'new' to the industry at that age. She worked there for about one and half years and then disappeared from XXXtase for more than a year. She recently returned to XXXtase which has listed her as 18 years old and 'new' again with the same old photos. That's clearly a lie. She's definitely NOT 'new' at XXXtase. She's at least 20 yo by now. I actually think she's probably 21 at this point. Why would XXXtase need to lie about her age? That makes no sense. I guess XXXtase is hoping that unsuspected or new mongers won't know about her status and get baited into the fantasy of having an 18 yo to choose from. I bet most mongers would still want to see her as long as she's 25 or younger. To me, Rachel is an 8 for her body and 6 for her face (more like GND look). Her service was a 9 for me at that time. I wonder if her excellent service may change after Covid-19.
Great, hope you'll post what you find out about her!You bet! I used to share a lot. Especially in my first 3 years on the green board I was very very active. Less the past year because I mostly saw retired girl.
They never truly retire until they do with regulars.
You bet! I used to share a lot. Especially in my first 3 years on the green board I was very very active. Less the past year because I mostly saw retired girl.To paraphrase Nora Desmond (Gloria Swanson) from Sunset Boulevard:
There once was a time in this business when Jalimon had the eyes of the whole Quebec! But that wasn't good enough for them, oh no!
Has anybody seen or heard from Julia lately.
She has all but disappeared no activity on her Twitter since May 30.
Won't answer email or phone text.
She was a friend I am a bit worried about her, if she just quit that is fine I wish her well.
I just hope she is OK.
A real nice and sweet girl.
To paraphrase Nora Desmond (Gloria Swanson) from Sunset Boulevard:
There once was a time in this business when Jalimon had the eyes of the whole Quebec! But that wasn't good enough for them, oh no!Shoot my English is not good enough to grasp the true meaning of your sentence.
So I did a first session in quite some time! Went to see Heaven from Euphoria. I wanted a sure thing. A queen. This girl is built for sex. Yet at the same time so cool, humorous and. Nasty haha Had a blast!
Cheers.
Shoot my English is not good enough to grasp the true meaning of your sentence.
So I did a first session in quite some time! Went to see Heaven from Euphoria. I wanted a sure thing. A queen. This girl is built for sex. Yet at the same time so cool, humorous and. Nasty haha Had a blast!
Cheers.Basically, you wrote a lot of good stuff for them and they blew it.
I have a question about Heaven. I'm very particular about naturals or reasonably shaped man-mades. Are Heaven's breasts as unnatural as they appear in the photos?
Basically, you wrote a lot of good stuff for them and they blew it.
I have a question about Heaven. I'm very particular about naturals or reasonably shaped man-mades. Are Heaven's breasts as unnatural as they appear in the photos?Haha Thanks!
Well they are man-mades and quite big. But they are not hard. They are quite soft. I am usually not too keen on man-made either but the thing is it fits with her Long (5'8' super fit, healthy body.
As I have said before Heaven has a porn star look without the attitude. She's is super friendly and humorous. She will deliver the session you want from lovely GFE to very nasty pse.
As I have said before Heaven has a porn star look without the attitude. She's is super friendly and humorous. She will deliver the session you want from lovely GFE to very nasty pse.Spot On. What a perfect succinct review. She can adapt to her clients. And for those concerned about price, she is as good as any of the top indy's but at agency rates.
Haha Thanks!Just remember that here you are an international sensation not just a provincial thing or a Canadian thing.
Just remember that here you are an international sensation not just a provincial thing or a Canadian thing.Ha well I will take the compliment Even tho to tell you the truth in this hobby I am the dude who has the lowest ego. The only SP who ever told me "Ha you going to make me orgasm baby! It's Sabrina (ex-velvet). That would have been a first with an SP. But I never made her have it after all because I got a cramp and had to stop haha.
Cheers.
Looks like charlie is back as charlie at euphoria.
Hey there,
Has anyone seen Lady Zoe from twitter? Apparently she worked for an agency before (though not one of the main 2). At LadyZoeMtl on twitter.
Curious, as she looks good.I saw her and was blown away both by her service and her looks. You can find her profile on Ferrari, but I booked her thru twitter. She was only my second girl since the Pandemic started. The first was Annabelle from Euphoria who also was awesome.
Any reviews for Lanna or Laura Fox? Both are advertising in the merb indy section. Curious about their attitudes and DFK.
I was all set booking another lady advertising, but she went radio silent.
Mongerer88
07-23-20, 22:53
During the Covid downtime that limits travel and activity, it might be a good idea to do an occasional Spotlight post, particularly of independents who might otherwise be difficult to know about.
This lady, Violet, who goes by Wholesome on twitter and Onlyfans, is a regular advertiser on the local escort review board, where she details her rates.
https://twitter.com/wholesome_69
https://onlyfans.com/wholesome69
She has excellent reviews on the local board from two well-respected reviewers, where she is described as a very solid GFE (no anal).
She worked with the Unicorn agency for a period of time. That is the agency that specialized in kink / fetish, and her twitter feed has a lot of alternative-type action.
She is a tall lady with a Swedish background, and blonde Swedes are always sought after in the escort world.
Member #4665
07-25-20, 01:34
We live under the capitalist system. Prices will go as high as people are willing to pay. If there are people willing to pay more prices will go even higher.There's more to life than profit. Even capitalist systems have regulations for the economy.
Look a top girl can makes $1680 a day if she has 7 clients and charges 240 an hour. For every client can give $40 to the agency. That means 1680 - 280 = a profit of 1400 per day. Let's estimate she can make 1000 x 3 = $3000 every week by working 3 days a week with the agency.
Let's say the remaining 4 days of the week she makes $900 by working independent. That means her weekly earnings increased to $3900 per week.
If she works for 3 weeks, let's estimate she can earn 9,500-14,000 per month. The 4th week she may be tired or have her period. So, yes she does work hard. She makes a lot of money. Practically everybody works hard but without such high salary. Also not all girls can accomplish this. They may need a side job.
However, This is enough to be happy. And also to take the opportunity to understand there are other things important in life besides money. For example thinking about the group and the scene is also important. Everybody knows about the importance of the individual. Most people consider the family important. Are people also placing the value on the group and on the scene? Just think about.
Look around for the posts of USA citizens many of them claim they have to travel to Asia Europe or Canada to have a sex life. If the prices keep increasing 5 or 10 years from now people living in Montral will be upset that they can't afford a sex life if the going rate will increase to 500 per hour or more just like it is in nearby cities in the USA. So should people let greed ruin the scene? Was it so bad making 240 an hour? 1 escort told me when she started working in Montral the prices were between 100 to 150 an hour. She is still a young lady.
What about the documentaries of New Yorkers angrily complaining about not being able to afford rent. They say I grew up here my father grew up here and my grandfather and great-grandfather we are from New York so why do we have to leave due to these ridiculous rent prices. Once again greed ruining the scene. The most affordable family home rents for $3000 In the "chiep" neighborhood. In these places don't even have two rooms. It's like an improvised closet cabinet room.
There are some universal truths to our existence. Like the golden rule. Do onto others as you wish them to do onto you. Another one is sometimes when one individual benefits excessively it goes contrary to the common good of the group. Yes there are some exceptions. Exceptions are also universal truths.
Greed actually isn't recommended by business research. If a businessman pushes his clients for every last dollar and for every price increase, he will develop a reputation for being greedy. This reputation will hurt the businessman. His clients will not appreciate that and will look to get back at him. The clients will not feel trust, and they will not like to share a gift Or a dinner with the businessman. Greed will not maximize your profits in the long run. This is textbook advice. It's better to be generous as a provider but always making sure clients are not taking advantage of you.
So basically all these price increases are they really worthwhile? Is it really so bad to think of the group and the scene? Are there consequences to being greedy? Can individuals benefit from thinking of the group? Not everything that shines is gold.
Solution is to find Women that are not only good in the bedroom and good-looking but also have a keen sense of business. Then you can make the economic deals directly with those kind of woman.
During the Covid downtime that limits travel and activity, it might be a good idea to do an occasional Spotlight post, particularly of independents who might otherwise be difficult to know about.
This lady, Violet, who goes by Wholesome on twitter and Onlyfans, is a regular advertiser on the local escort review board, where she details her rates.
https://twitter.com/wholesome_69
https://onlyfans.com/wholesome69
She has excellent reviews on the local board from two well-respected reviewers, where she is described as a very solid GFE (no anal).
She worked with the Unicorn agency for a period of time. That is the agency that specialized in kink / fetish, and her twitter feed has a lot of alternative-type action.
She is a tall lady with a Swedish background, and blonde Swedes are always sought after in the escort world.I saw her back in February and wrote a review on the green board. While I had a pretty good time. She is really not my type.
I booked her strictly on her great reviews and was a bit let down when I saw her. Too goth looking for my taste, and a bit soft. Sweet girl though and knows how to have a good time. You can get a pretty good idea of what she looks like from her ads and twitter feed.
Two of her friends in Ottawa are among my favourite girls from back in the Good Girls days.
I saw Violet pre pandemic. She likes to rub her clit while being fucked. I really enjoyed our meeting, since she lost herself in the sex. Great attitude and a very kind personality. I'd book again in a heartbeat, if I could secure a booking. I've got very limited available times, and
most are probably asking for longr bookings than I am anyway. It pisses me off a bit, since this is the " new normal" for almost everyone I want to see these days, but wtv.
I saw Violet pre pandemic. She likes to rub her clit while being fucked...........For the girls its a job but who says you shouldn't get a little enjoyment while making some money?
Haven't seen them listed on Euphoria since the agency opened back up. Maybe both are taking a hiatus because of the pandemic, but I hope those two aren't gone forever.
Haven't seen them listed on Euphoria since the agency opened back up. Maybe both are taking a hiatus because of the pandemic, but I hope those two aren't gone forever.I know how to reach Raphaelle. I can ask her.
She's in my opinion the most underrated SP in Montreal. Of course you need to like curvy but fit body type. I love her girl next door naughty side grrrr.
Cheers.
I know how to reach Raphaelle. I can ask her.
She's in my opinion the most underrated SP in Montreal. Of course you need to like curvy but fit body type. I love her girl next door naughty side grrrr.
Cheers.What's SP? You mean service provider?
Haven't seen them listed on Euphoria since the agency opened back up. Maybe both are taking a hiatus because of the pandemic, but I hope those two aren't gone forever.What is the name of the agency?
DethManRulz
08-09-20, 18:32
I know how to reach Raphaelle. I can ask her.
She's in my opinion the most underrated SP in Montreal. Of course you need to like curvy but fit body type. I love her girl next door naughty side grrrr.
Cheers.
What's SP? You mean service provider?SP. Sex / Service Provider.
Jalimon, did you ever end up seeing Lady Zoe?
Any reviews for Lanna or Laura Fox? Both are advertising in the merb indy section. Curious about their attitudes and DFK.
I was all set booking another lady advertising, but she went radio silent.Maybe the other lady went silent because of the current pandemic situation. Most of the ladies nowadays don't answer even if they advertise. Peculiar problem.
SP. Sex / Service Provider.
Jalimon, did you ever end up seeing Lady Zoe?No not yet. Heard a rumor she may go to Euphoria but did not seem to happen. I was kind of awaiting that but it was probably just a rumor.
DethManRulz
08-12-20, 23:21
No not yet. Heard a rumor she may go to Euphoria but did not seem to happen. I was kind of awaiting that but it was probably just a rumor.I actually have an update on her, which is that she's in an exclusive arrangement and then she's moving to Toronto in a month or two. So. There goes that!
I actually have an update on her, which is that she's in an exclusive arrangement and then she's moving to Toronto in a month or two. So. There goes that!That's what she told a couple of hobbyists who contacted her for an appointment. She also mentioned that she'll be returning Montreal once in a while.
But you know women they tend to change their minds often.
BTW when I saw her she asked me about Euphoria and James told me they talked but nothing came of it.
That's what she told a couple of hobbyists who contacted her for an appointment. She also mentioned that she'll be returning Montreal once in a while.
But you know women they tend to change their minds often.Interesting. Based on a few tweets this past week, it look like she's keeping her Twitter account as a warm, placeholder in case she does come back.
Green has been pretty quiet in the last few days and then noticed Jalimon's handle has been banned or disabled. Hope you're OK bud.
...But you know women they tend to change their minds often...
The French king Francois I, who had many lovers, supposedly said: "Souvent femme varie. Bien fol est qui s'y fie." Translation: Women often change their minds, only a fool trusts them. :-)
Green has been pretty quiet in the last few days and then noticed Jalimon's handle has been banned or disabled. Hope you're OK bud.Jalimon has been here for awhile. There are quite a few green refugees here. It's a much more candid discussion.
Every sex forum seems to be a bit quiet. I suspect ISG will light up with posts as soon as borders open and vaccines are distributed.
Jalimon has been here for awhile. There are quite a few green refugees here. It's a much more candid discussion.Good to know thanks. Just I enjoy reading his posts. Since I live on the north shore, he seems to have great knowledge in my area.
Hope everyone is healthy.
Jalimon has been here for awhile. There are quite a few green refugees here. It's a much more candid discussion.
Every sex forum seems to be a bit quiet. I suspect ISG will light up with posts as soon as borders open and vaccines are distributed.So true. We need to wait out another year or a bit more I guess before we see things as they were before the pandemic. It does sucks.
For myself I only had one encounter with an agency girl, Heaven, since February. But what has happened to me because of the contacts / friends I have made because of the boards is priceless. What happened to me last week I cannot tell it to anyone as all would think I am full of shit. But I am not haha So yes once border opens keep an eye close on this board and even the green board as it will truly help you in the long run.
Member #4665
08-21-20, 23:46
jalimon I wish you would tell everyone what happened to you.
This reminds me of a thread on the green board where member posted that he was a regular client of 1 girl that used to come to his apartment all the time for many months maybe even a year. Then the girl announced she would retire and would come over to his house only one more time. They had the session and at the very end of the night the the guy said the girl did something shockingly rude and then she left. Never to be seen again. But he never told everyone what the girl did. The guy said he never expected anything rude from her, and he thought she was a happy girl.
Did anyone ever find out what the girl did to the guy?
I have thought about this for many Restless nights and my best guess is she Violently pulled a hair off his nut sack. However, I cannot confirm this as true. I think I sshould hire a detective.
I tried looking for the thread again yesterday but I can find it anymore, so who knows?
But sometimes when a girl is telling me how much she loves me, And That she is all mine, (Of course I love her sweettalk And It is much fun) I wonder and I worry about this story. lol :)
jalimon I wish you would tell everyone what happened to you.
This reminds me of a thread on the green board where member posted that he was a regular client of 1 girl that used to come to his apartment all the time for many months maybe even a year. Then the girl announced she would retire and would come over to his house only one more time. They had the session and at the very end of the night the the guy said the girl did something shockingly rude and then she left. Never to be seen again. But he never told everyone what the girl did. The guy said he never expected anything rude from her, and he thought she was a happy girl.
Did anyone ever find out what the girl did to the guy?
I have thought about this for many Restless nights and my best guess is she Violently pulled a hair off his nut sack. However, I cannot confirm this as true. I think I sshould hire a detective.
I tried looking for the thread again yesterday but I can find it anymore, so who knows?
But sometimes when a girl is telling me how much she loves me, And That she is all mine, (Of course I love her sweettalk And It is much fun) I wonder and I worry about this story. Maybe she was that girl who wrote that she has HIV with lipstick on his bathroom mirror.
Getting back to Jal. Hey buddy how is it going with that Mexican girl you met.
On another note I haven't had a trio in 5 or 6 years so I think now is the time. My last one was with Maria Star and her then partner Byanca. I thought I'the never recover after that one but I'm going for another round next week with two girls I met on twitter.
Maybe she was that girl who wrote that she has HIV with lipstick on his bathroom mirror.
Getting back to Jal. Hey buddy how is it going with that Mexican girl you met.
On another note I haven't had a trio in 5 or 6 years so I think now is the time. My last one was with Maria Star and her then partner Byanca. I thought I'the never recover after that one but I'm going for another round next week with two girls I met on twitter.Hey Cloud!
I miss the get together we used to do at Pat's place. I would need to see you in person to tell you what happened haha But let's say that when you like sex. And if you try a bit, staying polite not too pushy. You get some haha.
I have never realized how many 514 based girls are actually active on twitter. Its amazing how you can find many more just by seeing how they chat with each other. Are there any special Montreal specific hashtags? I'm surprised they wouldn't make it easier to be found.
Have you guys found it to be valuable or do you still rely on the good old ad sites?
I have never realized how many 514 based girls are actually active on twitter. Its amazing how you can find many more just by seeing how they chat with each other. Are there any special Montreal specific hashtags? I'm surprised they wouldn't make it easier to be found.
Have you guys found it to be valuable or do you still rely on the good old ad sites?I'd say Twitter escorts are now common in Canada, Brazil and other parts of the world. I do worry Twitter might start shutting them down. As an American company, they run the risk of pissing off USA Federal law enforcement.
I don't know of any specific escort hashtags in Canada. As you mentioned, I do seem to find more and more escorts from retweets and chats. Even many of the agency girls independently promote themselves on Twitter. There's always a bit of vanity, self-indulgence and narcissism just like with any social media. However, we get to see more candid photos of the women. You can also get a brief window into some of the girl's personalities.
I don't know if Montreal has a group formed like at Workinggirlssix in Toronto. If not, I suspect it will.
I have never realized how many 514 based girls are actually active on twitter. Its amazing how you can find many more just by seeing how they chat with each other. Are there any special Montreal specific hashtags? I'm surprised they wouldn't make it easier to be found.
Have you guys found it to be valuable or do you still rely on the good old ad sites?I'd say Twitter escorts are now common in Canada, Brazil and other parts of the world. I do worry Twitter might start shutting them down. As an American company, they run the risk of pissing off USA Federal law enforcement.
I don't know of any specific escort hashtags in Canada. As you mentioned, I do seem to find more and more escorts from retweets and chats. Even many of the agency girls promote themselves on Twitter. There's always a bit of vanity, self-indulgence and narcissism just like with any social media. However, we get to see more candid photos of the women. You can also get a brief window into some of the girl's personalities.
I don't know if Montreal has a group formed like at Workinggirlssix in Toronto. If not, I suspect it will.
AmericanPi
09-02-20, 01:46
I'd say Twitter escorts are now common in Canada, Brazil and other parts of the world. I do worry Twitter might start shutting them down. As an American company, they run the risk of pissing off USA Federal law enforcement.
I don't know of any specific escort hashtags in Canada. As you mentioned, I do seem to find more and more escorts from retweets and chats. Even many of the agency girls independently promote themselves on Twitter. There's always a bit of vanity, self-indulgence and narcissism just like with any social media. However, we get to see more candid photos of the women. You can also get a brief window into some of the girl's personalities.
I don't know if Montreal has a group formed like at Workinggirlssix in Toronto. If not, I suspect it will.I have Twitter, but I only use it for news. How do you find escorts on Twitter? And. Is it anonymous search?
Mongerer88
09-02-20, 12:09
I have Twitter, but I only use it for news. How do you find escorts on Twitter? And. Is it anonymous search?It is kind of like high school. Find a popular escort and click on who she follows. That will get you a huge list. Then your favorites from that list can be expanded by clicking on who they follow. One of my favorites in Montreal is April Rose, who is a sweetheart and knows everyone. Here is the list of who she follows.
https://twitter.com/AprilRose_Esc/following
I have Twitter, but I only use it for news. How do you find escorts on Twitter? And. Is it anonymous search?I prefer an anonymous Twitter account so I can follow the girls without anyone knowing who I follow. (There might be a way to have who you follow private on your main account, but this works fine for me.) So first, set up a Twitter account with an alias. I think you need another email account from the one linked to your current Twitter account.
Now look up these three MTL superstars and follow them.
@LOLATHEBRAT.
@MtlHeaven.
@nastyabloom.
You can scroll down their Twitter feeds and see which other escorts they have retweeted and chatted. Every time you see a girl you like follow her. The better and faster option is to look at who Lola, Heaven and Anastasia Bloom are following.
AmericanPi
09-02-20, 16:42
Thank you much.
Have you noticed that escorts via agency perform differently or look differently, generally, than those who are independent? Is there some conventional wisdom I missing about this? I've always used agencies because its like shopping. You choose the characteristics you're looking for via site filters, there is an operator on hand to coordinate the transaction, etc.
I prefer an anonymous Twitter account so I can follow the girls without anyone knowing who I follow. (There might be a way to have who you follow private on your main account, but this works fine for me.) So first, set up a Twitter account with an alias. I think you need another email account from the one linked to your current Twitter account.
Now look up these three MTL superstars and follow them.
@LOLATHEBRAT.
@MtlHeaven.
@nastyabloom.
You can scroll down their Twitter feeds and see which other escorts they have retweeted and chatted. Every time you see a girl you like follow her. The better and faster option is to look at who Lola, Heaven and Anastasia Bloom are following.
Have you noticed that escorts via agency perform differently or look differently, generally, than those who are independent? Is there some conventional wisdom I missing about this? I've always used agencies because its like shopping. You choose the characteristics you're looking for via site filters, there is an operator on hand to coordinate the transaction, etc.I think it depends on the city. Some cities have agencies with well-regarded brands and other cities not so much. Montreal is known for some top, reliable agencies. Montreal's top agencies are Euphoria, EscortsXO, Vogue and VelvetLove.
This doesn't mean there aren't great independent ladies and that you should stick strictly to agencies. Montreal has some great independents. Top independents generally run a little higher in price than agency escorts to a lot higher.
I don't recall any of the MTL agency sites having filters where you can pre-select characteristics. That seems to be something you see in other cities like London. Sometimes a city has an escort aggregation website that has a filter for selecting the characteristics of agency escorts and independents. Montreal does not.
It is kind of like high school. Find a popular escort and click on who she follows. That will get you a huge list. Then your favorites from that list can be expanded by clicking on who they follow. One of my favorites in Montreal is April Rose, who is a sweetheart and knows everyone. Here is the list of who she follows.
https://twitter.com/AprilRose_Esc/followingYou are absolutely correct. Find a popular escort and see who she follows and then follow them and some of their re-tweets. I tend to be attracted to quirky part time escorts soo I've built up a long list of these girls. Focusing on girls in Montreal, Ottawa. And Toronto.
Since May I've only seen non reviewed Indies and agency girls that I've found on twitter. Not one miss. They've been great.
Examples are Lady Zoe, Annabelle, Violet's friend Bambi, Adele Gall a sensualist from Ottawa and more to come. I was able to see their face on twitter and they responded honestly to my questions about the services provided. It's really not hard to find an attractive girl who offers GFE / PSE.
GuyBrusg1957
09-04-20, 02:38
It is kind of like high school. Find a popular escort and click on who she follows. That will get you a huge list. Then your favorites from that list can be expanded by clicking on who they follow. One of my favorites in Montreal is April Rose, who is a sweetheart and knows everyone. Here is the list of who she follows.
https://twitter.com/AprilRose_Esc/followingHoly crap. I had no idea this existed as a tactic. I used to just crawl across Terb and Merb. Thanks!
It is kind of like high school. Find a popular escort and click on who she follows. That will get you a huge list.You must to went to some high school. ;)
Is anyone still interested in reading reviews of agency girls? Is it against etiquette to rate someone badly? I may post a few reviews of the ones I've seen later. My experiences were mostly average to poor.
Out of the dozen girls I saw, maybe one was stunning. Two or three were pretty, mostly by virtue of their youth. I rarely read reviews before I booked an the this may have been a factor in my results. Many of the girls were mechanical or disinterested. One of them was watching TV and checking her phone. I would say a third were positive experiences. Not too bad, but not a particularly great hobbying destination for me either.
JaliscoState
09-06-20, 19:03
Is anyone still interested in reading reviews of agency girls? Is it against etiquette to rate someone badly? I may post a few reviews of the ones I've seen later. My experiences were mostly average to poor.
Out of the dozen girls I saw, maybe one was stunning. Two or three were pretty, mostly by virtue of their youth. I rarely read reviews before I booked an the this may have been a factor in my results. Many of the girls were mechanical or disinterested. One of them was watching TV and checking her phone. I would say a third were positive experiences. Not too bad, but not a particularly great hobbying destination for me either.Yes, we're interested in reviews, good and bad.
Is anyone still interested in reading reviews of agency girls? Is it against etiquette to rate someone badly? I may post a few reviews of the ones I've seen later. My experiences were mostly average to poor.In fact, one of the best things about ISG is the ability for us to be candid here. Local boards can get bogged down with local shills and white knights.
Is anyone still interested in reading reviews of agency girls? Is it against etiquette to rate someone badly? I may post a few reviews of the ones I've seen later. My experiences were mostly average to poor.
Out of the dozen girls I saw, maybe one was stunning. Two or three were pretty, mostly by virtue of their youth. I rarely read reviews before I booked an the this may have been a factor in my results. Many of the girls were mechanical or disinterested. One of them was watching TV and checking her phone. I would say a third were positive experiences. Not too bad, but not a particularly great hobbying destination for me either.Checking the phone while you are banging her is a deliberate insult. Folks ought to know who would do such a thing.
AmericanPi
09-07-20, 17:55
Is anyone still interested in reading reviews of agency girls? Is it against etiquette to rate someone badly? I may post a few reviews of the ones I've seen later. My experiences were mostly average to poor.
Out of the dozen girls I saw, maybe one was stunning. Two or three were pretty, mostly by virtue of their youth. I rarely read reviews before I booked an the this may have been a factor in my results. Many of the girls were mechanical or disinterested. One of them was watching TV and checking her phone. I would say a third were positive experiences. Not too bad, but not a particularly great hobbying destination for me either.IMHO the bad reviews are worth more than the good ones. Nothing is more disappointing than wasting one of your travel days (not to mention the money) on a bad experience.
Member #4665
09-09-20, 20:00
Whoops Daddy
Whoops DaddyYour mom and I were just playing son. We were wrestling.
Checking the phone while you are banging her is a deliberate insult. Folks ought to know who would do such a thing.Tell me about it. I once saw a girl reaching her purse while I was in doggy. I was sure she would take out her phone but no. She started doing her nails! Hard for your ego haha.
Reviews, good or bad, along with description of the girl is very very important. Along with networking via PM (my preference). And it's especially important for the traveler's. Us local we can take our time, ask question, etc. We are not trying to cram 2-3 ladies per day.
Tell me about it. I once saw a girl reaching her purse while I was in doggy. I was sure she would take out her phone but no. She started doing her nails! Hard for your ego haha.
Reviews, good or bad, along with description of the girl is very very important. Along with networking via PM (my preference). And it's especially important for the traveler's. Us local we can take our time, ask question, etc. We are not trying to cram 2-3 ladies per day.I was banging a girl once and her phone sounded. It was beyond her reach and she said she had to take that. Coitus was interrupted for her to go get her phone and answer it. Definitely no repeat with her.
DethManRulz
09-15-20, 13:09
Has anyone here seen Marina at Euphoria? There seems to be relatively little info about her. And at the green board there is only one review, where the reviewers was seemingly more interested in his own sexual prowess.
And at the green board there is only one review, where the reviewers was seemingly more interested in his own sexual prowess.Didn't you know? That's why Montreal is such a great place for young escorts. The male clients are great lovers. LOL.
Has anyone here seen Marina at Euphoria? There seems to be relatively little info about her. And at the green board there is only one review, where the reviewers was seemingly more interested in his own sexual prowess.She has been around for quite some time now. What I heard is that she has lot's of regulars. The under the radar kind of girl where her demeanor makes her an automatic regular. That is usually the kind of girl I see. Have not yet seen her still.
Cheers.
Member #4665
09-23-20, 02:31
Good point good point. I had a little etiquette class back in college. And the teacher said when the cell phone rings if you're in a meetinG or with friends it should be in silent Vibratorvibrator. And if you take it out and answer you have to apologize and say you have to take the call in the other room. And if you decide to answer in the same room you're meant to involve the caller with the friends you aRE WITH iN THE ROOM. Like "oh hey Robert I'm in the room with William. Would you like to say Hello, t to him?" So According to this if if an escort answers the phone during sex she has to say something like "hey Mike I'm just doing doggy style with Jim. At the moment he's deep inside would you like to say Hello, to him?
Currently we are in crisis because etiquette and communication skills For the most part are not being taught in school. '.
Once I was with a girl in Montral she answered a call and was 1 of her friends like from realNot escort life. And she kept signaling to me with her finger over her mouth telling me not to make any noise because she didn't want her friend to know she was with some guy at 11 PM. I just kept smiling at her while she did the gesture with her finger, and then she Pointed at me and kept looking at me like if you say something You will be sorry.:) I thought that was so funny.`
LoveGuru25
09-27-20, 15:40
My first post here although I have been active for over a year since I moved to Montreal.
Ashley at Vog.
She is good looking with nice body, soft skin, friendly with nice attitude and natural the's. Gives nice BJ and also open to DFK (has pierced tongue). Likes to try different positions. Would definitely repeat her again.
Alice at XO (Previously as Roxy at XXXTase).
It was her first day at XO so there were no reviews about her but when I met her at the incall place, I remembered trying her during her time at xxxtase. Nice body and attitude with natural DD's. She started with sensual massage and then proceeded to act. Not as much lively as Ashley during sex since she is relatively new. But would prefer Ashley over Alice.
Also tried Eva at XO but didn't like her attitude. So would avoid her.
My next on list is Lana and Arianna (Xo), Amanda, Ruby and Oxsanna (Euphoria), Rose (Vog). I have seen review for Amanda in forum but Please share any reviews for the rest if any one have tried them.
Thank you!
JaliscoState
09-29-20, 00:15
Loveguru25, can you describe Alice in more details? Double D's definitely makes me want to meet her, but do you remember her face, butt, etc.
Ashley is a legend at this point and you're lucky to have crossed her off your list. Total hottie.
YounGun3393
10-04-20, 04:37
Hello,
I was trying to visit Montreal for some fun.
Anyone recommend any good brothels strip clubs AMP or MPs.
Also any info on this place?
https://montrealnurumassage.com/
Is it strictly massage or can you get extras. Website says no extras but we all know they're supposed to say that.
Chubzy Maximus
10-05-20, 02:46
Hello,
I was trying to visit Montreal for some fun.
Anyone recommend any good brothels strip clubs AMP or MPs.
Also any info on this place?
https://montrealnurumassage.com/
Is it strictly massage or can you get extras. Website says no extras but we all know they're supposed to say that.How was Seville? Did you end up going? Please do update if you did.
Mongerer88
10-05-20, 13:01
How was Seville? Did you end up going? Please do update if you did.Yes, and while he is at it, he can tell us about Barca, from his previous post.
"Hello friends,
I am traveling to Barca for a few nights.
Can you name me some good brothels or agencies to visit. I am visiting with a couple of friends and we are interested.
I hear sugar."
Or we can find out if he went to Montreal from his post a few years ago; pretty much the same as the one he just now posted) asking about brothels in Montreal.
It takes about 15 minutes of reading of the forum to understand that Montreal's legal situation makes it impossible for brothels to exist.
I have not been able to resolve this issue. Barring airfare which city would be cheaper including accommodation, food, transportation and pursuing our hobby? Montreal or London?
I have not been able to resolve this issue. Barring airfare which city would be cheaper including accommodation, food, transportation and pursuing our hobby? Montreal or London?With significant experience visiting both cities, I would say Montreal is easily less expensive for a visitor. Now some will say London has more escorts to book. However, you only need to book a handful to be satisfied. Additionally, I can get to Montreal cheaply and relatively quickly from the U.S.
As you might already know, many London escorts reveal their faces on the internet. Other than MTL independents, it is rare for a MTL agency escort to reveal her face. I personally appreciate all forms of female beauty and follow the guidance of a few MTL hobbyists I respect. I have never been disappointed.
I have not been able to resolve this issue. Barring airfare which city would be cheaper including accommodation, food, transportation and pursuing our hobby? Montreal or London?I live in London now so definitely the cheaper option for me, but I have a soft spot for Montreal. Back in the late 1970's (this dates me I know) I had to travel to Montreal weekly for six weeks arriving about 11.00 pm. On the first trip I sat next to a French Canadian girl who was a travel agent from Montreal who had been on vacation. We hit it off over a few drinks and when we arrived in Montreal she came with me to my Hotel, The Chateau Aeroport Mirabel just across from the airport and had a wild night of non-stop sex. Every time I arrived for the next five weeks she was waiting for me waving as I came out of Customs, and the sex got better and better and for the first time in my life she told me (in that lovely French Canadian accent) to put it in her ass Sadly I never saw her again after those six weeks.
That girl still stays with me forty plus years later, and every time I hear this song a smile comes on my face!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjfuDSPde_g
I live in London now so definitely the cheaper option for me, but I have a soft spot for Montreal. Back in the late 1970's (this dates me I know) I had to travel to Montreal weekly for six weeks arriving about 11.00 pm. On the first trip I sat next to a French Canadian girl who was a travel agent from Montreal who had been on vacation. We hit it off over a few drinks and when we arrived in Montreal she came with me to my Hotel, The Chateau Aeroport Mirabel just across from the airport and had a wild night of non-stop sex. Every time I arrived for the next five weeks she was waiting for me waving as I came out of Customs, and the sex got better and better and for the first time in my life she told me (in that lovely French Canadian accent) to put it in her ass Sadly I never saw her again after those six weeks.
That girl still stays with me forty plus years later, and every time I hear this song a smile comes on my face!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjfuDSPde_gI had a chuckle w / your story, fascinating.
But did you not have her contact details, how otherwise did the arrangment for awaiting for your arrival in customs take place? To which, after those six weeks, she stopped answering your phone calls?
I was in London about 18 months earlier. Lodging is quite costly. I would imagine so is the hourly rate for hobbying.
I had a chuckle w / your story, fascinating.
But did you not have her contact details, how otherwise did the arrangment for awaiting for your arrival in customs take place? To which, after those six weeks, she stopped answering your phone calls?.Remember this was in the 1970's, no mobile phones and I don't think even pagers were yet in common use, she knew I would be on the same flight, same day each week. As I recall I had her business card and was to phone her if anything changed. I was impressed she made the long trip from the city to Mirabel and back each week, she must have thought it worthwhile LOL.
After the six weeks of fun I was sent to the Caribbean to work and knew I would not be back in Montreal for a while, in fact It took until 2007 before I returned.
https://ourworldindata.org/coronavir...pickerSort=asc
The usa / Canada ban is still presently in place but it looks like that infection rate has gone to surpass the rate of infections Canada had even before the ban.
Does that most likely mean travelling canadians brought the infections into Canada, at a greater rate than americans did when americans were still allowed to visit.
Hard to think because by the time the bans were in place, Canada had in place, quarantines and screenings for returning Canadians, for months now.
Unless those measures were such a huge failure, or something else. Something else happened recently to surge these numbers within the hot areas of Canada.
I mention this because the infections in montreal and quebec, are so much greater for weeks now.
If the rates are worse than before the usa / Canada bans and they are is my point based on the graphs, how much did the bans help, whereas the obvoius lasting affects are seen in the economy with the lockdowns.
Versus if instead a system as discussed by others for any other 2 countries this year trying to safely revisit airline travel.
That required either onsite testing before crossing the border (or proof of negative 2 days before crossing) and testing after the border.
The economic hit would be less, ie: aircanada for one and all the businesses which had to close of course.
https://ourworldindata.org/coronavir...pickerSort=asc
The usa / Canada ban is still presently in place but it looks like that infection rate has gone to surpass the rate of infections Canada had even before the ban.
Does that most likely mean travelling canadians brought the infections into Canada, at a greater rate than americans did when americans were still allowed to visit.
Hard to think because by the time the bans were in place, Canada had in place, quarantines and screenings for returning Canadians, for months now.
Unless those measures were such a huge failure, or something else. Something else happened recently to surge these numbers within the hot areas of Canada.
I mention this because the infections in montreal and quebec, are so much greater for weeks now.
If the rates are worse than before the usa / Canada bans and they are is my point based on the graphs, how much did the bans help, whereas the obvoius lasting affects are seen in the economy with the lockdowns.
Versus if instead a system as discussed by others for any other 2 countries this year trying to safely revisit airline travel.
That required either onsite testing before crossing the border (or proof of negative 2 days before crossing) and testing after the border.
The economic hit would be less, ie: aircanada for one and all the businesses which had to close of course.I'm not sure I would overthink the increased cases. I'm also a bit tired of the media fanning the flames. It seems like every country that loosens their lockdowns experiences a spike in cases.
We know that because it is a novel virus very few people are immune to it. It spreads easily and rapidly. Lockdowns have not produced the great results that were intended. They certainly flattened the curve, but some seem to think getting close to eradication is / was the goal.
If I had to guess, many young people ignored the lockdown to meet in private gatherings. The virus could have easily stayed active within that population during the lockdown since young people don't experience the same intensity of symptoms.
https://ourworldindata.org/coronavir...pickerSort=asc
The usa / Canada ban is still presently in place but it looks like that infection rate has gone to surpass the rate of infections Canada had even before the ban.
Does that most likely mean travelling canadians brought the infections into Canada, at a greater rate than americans did when americans were still allowed to visit.
Hard to think because by the time the bans were in place, Canada had in place, quarantines and screenings for returning Canadians, for months now.
Unless those measures were such a huge failure, or something else. Something else happened recently to surge these numbers within the hot areas of Canada.
I mention this because the infections in montreal and quebec, are so much greater for weeks now.
If the rates are worse than before the usa / Canada bans and they are is my point based on the graphs, how much did the bans help, whereas the obvoius lasting affects are seen in the economy with the lockdowns.
Versus if instead a system as discussed by others for any other 2 countries this year trying to safely revisit airline travel.
That required either onsite testing before crossing the border (or proof of negative 2 days before crossing) and testing after the border.
The economic hit would be less, ie: aircanada for one and all the businesses which had to close of course.The travel ban has worked well, I think. The current cases in Montreal and Toronto, and more generally, are basically because the virus never totally went away, and as soon as people started seeing more people, especially indoors and without distancing, the cases started to climb again. When you see bunches of people at house parties, after hours parties at bars, etc you know that it is going to happen. And in general I think everyone relaxed a bit about the "rules", I know I did. At first I didn't see my kids and grandkids at all, and gradually we got more relaxed and had small get togethers. So far so good, but when everyone does that it does allow the virus to spread again. So I'm not totally pointing fingers at others, just realizing that I too need to pull it back a bit.
Member #4665
10-10-20, 01:49
I have not been able to resolve this issue. Barring airfare which city would be cheaper including accommodation, food, transportation and pursuing our hobby? Montreal or London?https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/rankings.jsp
In this cost-of-living Montral appears at number 217 and London at number 50. No surprise Zrich number 1. This confirms my impression. Montral is kinda like a Berlin type city where most things Have lower price and this is often considered a good thing. I only passed through London but I felt the UK as a whole a pretty expensive place. Montral personal experience was I could afford everything. Also take into account the pound a stronger than the euro and the dollar so that could also have an effect. Great question if you find any more information please let us know. Also, Berlin may be a better city than London for the hobby although both are way up there.Berlin Ranks at 190.
Chubzy Maximus
10-10-20, 02:28
Any intel on this agency. Seems new, how are the providers? Anyone try yet? Is it an offshoot of another agency?
https://escortsluxury.agency/
Any info appreciated.
BTW, London has some hotties, especially Eastern European. You will get world class looks and world class service, but your paying £250-500/ hour, vs MTL where it's CAD $ 250/ hour, you do the math. If your in town and want to play, fine, wouldn't come here just to play.
Member #4665
10-10-20, 18:44
What has been said is informative. Just to improve in London there also escorts for 150 pounds which is 256 CAD.
In Berlin 150 Euros Or 232 CAD is also Part of the standard but sometimes the hour goes for 120 Euros which is 186 CAD. So all 3 places have a similar standard one hour for escort.
Anybody know about gifts given to girls In Montreal For traveling vacation or live in? Any threads on this type of arrangement?
Kevinluxury
10-21-20, 20:51
Any intel on this agency. Seems new, how are the providers? Anyone try yet? Is it an offshoot of another agency?
https://escortsluxury.agency/
Any info appreciated.
BTW, London has some hotties, especially Eastern European. You will get world class looks and world class service, but your paying 250-500/ hour, vs MTL where it's CAD $ 250/ hour, you do the math. If your in town and want to play, fine, wouldn't come here just to play.I do work for this agency, so here's some info:
We are a bunch of people with a couple of years of experience from other agencies. Mainly one of the owners whose name is Ben and he is regarded as one of the top booker of Montreal. Very well know and liked because he' always professional and tells the truth about the girls. Which, sadly, some bookers don't. We currently do outcalls only but when the covid situation will end we will be working on offering incalls as well.
About the prices: most agencies charge 220-260/ HR. In our case it's 220/240, depending which girl it is, and the full GFE is included.
On our website, you may find all the info you need to know about the girls (general info, gifts ideas, favorite drinks.) If those girls have reviews on merb, there will be a link for it. We even put down some Twitter links. We are currently working on an alert notification system for the schedules, when we update it, for anyone who will subscribe to it.
You may look up the website here: escortsluxury. Agency.
If you have more questions you may either ask me here or through the website contact page.
Chubzy Maximus
10-24-20, 06:13
I do work for this agency, so here's some info:
We are a bunch of people with a couple of years of experience from other agencies. Mainly one of the owners whose name is Ben and he is regarded as one of the top booker of Montreal. Very well know and liked because he' always professional and tells the truth about the girls. Which, sadly, some bookers don't. We currently do outcalls only but when the covid situation will end we will be working on offering incalls as well.
About the prices: most agencies charge 220-260/ HR. In our case it's 220/240, depending which girl it is, and the full GFE is included.
On our website, you may find all the info you need to know about the girls (general info, gifts ideas, favorite drinks.) If those girls have reviews on merb, there will be a link for it. We even put down some Twitter links. We are currently working on an alert notification system for the schedules, when we update it, for anyone who will subscribe to it.
You may look up the website here: escortsluxury. Agency.
If you have more questions you may either ask me here or through the website contact page.If you are the same Kevin who used to work with the same agency Ben did, then I can say your a stand up guy who helped me a lot of times with bookings. Really patient and straight forward. Thanks for the info mate! Talk to ya soon! All the best in your new endevour!
Kevinluxury
10-26-20, 19:54
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JohnSnow20
10-31-20, 19:57
Guys,
Do you know any escort that can cross the US border and meet me in the most near city close to the Canadian border or is that is out of the question?
Like Plattsburgh NY?
Guys,
Do you know any escort that can cross the US border and meet me in the most near city close to the Canadian border or is that is out of the question?
Like Plattsburgh NY?No travel across the border either way. Covid.
No travel across the border either way. Covid.A girl could cross the border. The USA would let her go. She would have to invent a story about seeing a relative or something.
But she will be asked to quarantine 2 weeks upon her return. You would have to lay out load of $ to convince a girl.
Sorry to say but we may not see the border open until mid to late 2021.
YounGun3393
11-05-20, 07:54
How was Seville? Did you end up going? Please do update if you did.Sorry yea I went to Seville it was great but never got or found any "fun" stuff to do. I hear the scene is very dry over there from when I asked locals about it and scouring the Seville forums.
YounGun3393
11-05-20, 08:09
Yes, and while he is at it, he can tell us about Barca, from his previous post.
"Hello friends,
I am traveling to Barca for a few nights.
Can you name me some good brothels or agencies to visit. I am visiting with a couple of friends and we are interested.
I hear sugar."
Or we can find out if he went to Montreal from his post a few years ago; pretty much the same as the one he just now posted) asking about brothels in Montreal.
It takes about 15 minutes of reading of the forum to understand that Montreal's legal situation makes it impossible for brothels to exist.My Barca trip went great. Went around April 2019 sorry I forgot to come here and share. Forgot my PW half the time.
Visited Felina BCN. It was great went twice. First time around I got a nice thick Venezuelan and second time around I got a Colombian. The Venezuelan was nice joined me in the shower and was all about me. The Colombian was the polar opposite. Clearly was there long enough, did not join the shower and was annoyed during. I'm a Spanish speaker so it wasn't the language barrier. Sadly I read after the fact that there were much cheaper options. But I was impressed by Felina BCN and the establishment.
I love barca and I been there multiple times. Hopefully this Covid thing passes!
Now on to Montreal. I read but I guess I missed that info. Covid fcked me up so I was looking to visit somewhere nearby for some fun. Nuru massage sounds awesome but pointless if its not a he IMO.
So if I were looking for brothels in Canada where would I go? Ignoring the pandemic.
A girl could cross the border. The USA would let her go. She would have to invent a story about seeing a relative or something.
But she will be asked to quarantine 2 weeks upon her return. You would have to lay out load of $ to convince a girl.
Sorry to say but we may not see the border open until mid to late 2021.It would make more sense in taking a girl across the border to have her stay at your place for one or more weeks. You two could have lots of fun and she would be recompensed sufficiently to cover her two week quarantine upon return.
So if I were looking for brothels in Canada where would I go? Ignoring the pandemic.We call them Massage parlor In Montreal from what I heard YPG is probably the most popular. Also LE Boudoir (although their pricing is ridiculous for the Montreal scene).
I never go to these parlor as I find incall agency much better.
Cheers.
Rating 1-3. YMMV.
Caro at xo escortsxo. Relaxed and friendly. Good body, curvy with tanned skin. Proportionally small head, reminded me of Gianna Michaels. 2.
Kiara at euphoria. Almost annoyingly bubbly. Overall good body, though somewhat out of shape with a belly. Lighter skin than picture. Squarish chin. 'professional' approach. 1.
Mia at vog. Suburban personality, seems smart. Curvy body. Lighter skin than pics. 2.
Emily at vog / luxury. Friendly GFE, attentive, little English. Pretty face, resembles Adrienne Shelly with her choice of makeup. Sunburnt skin. Taut spinner body. 3.
Erika at xo. Distant and inattentive. Bad breath. Proportionately large head with chubby face. Rather plain. Good thick body and ass. 1.
Amber at vog. Friendly, Pse. Completely takes charge. College girl face, glasses. Reminds me of Heather brooks. Large breasts though sagging. Good ass. 3.
Lenny at vog. Distant and inattentive. Proportionally small head. Body was chubbier and rather more average than the pics suggest. Reluctant in service. 1.
Rating 1-3. YMMV.
Caro at xo escortsxo. Relaxed and friendly. Good body, curvy with tanned skin. Proportionally small head, reminded me of Gianna Michaels. 2.
Kiara at euphoria. Almost annoyingly bubbly. Overall good body, though somewhat out of shape with a belly. Lighter skin than picture. Squarish chin. 'professional' approach. 1.
Mia at vog. Suburban personality, seems smart. Curvy body. Lighter skin than pics. 2.
Emily at vog / luxury. Friendly GFE, attentive, little English. Pretty face, resembles Adrienne Shelly with her choice of makeup. Sunburnt skin. Taut spinner body. 3.
Erika at xo. Distant and inattentive. Bad breath. Proportionately large head with chubby face. Rather plain. Good thick body and ass. 1.
Amber at vog. Friendly, Pse. Completely takes charge. College girl face, glasses. Reminds me of Heather brooks. Large breasts though sagging. Good ass. 3.
Lenny at vog. Distant and inattentive. Proportionally small head. Body was chubbier and rather more average than the pics suggest. Reluctant in service. 1.Thanks for your reviews and candor. That's why ISG is a good forum especially for MTL. You don't have locals trying to shout you down.
No travel across the border either way. Covid.Not entirely factual, some obstacles to overcome, however if only making the trek for mongering, better options are available.
Not a report as of this moment, however a good search of the post has produced only limited vague mention of any street action. Is anyone willing to share any good info on whether there is a viable street scene here. Albeit below freezing a large part of the time, girls got to hustle. Thanks in advance for any direction someone may be able to share.
Not a report as of this moment, however a good search of the post has produced only limited vague mention of any street action. Is anyone willing to share any good info on whether there is a viable street scene here. Albeit below freezing a large part of the time, girls got to hustle. Thanks in advance for any direction someone may be able to share.No there is no viable street scene in Montreal anymore. Forget it.
Does she still work in Montreal? Probably not, but I had a thing for her years ago. I was hoping against hope she might still be doing video or something. Any updates on her?
Not entirely factual, some obstacles to overcome, however if only making the trek for mongering, better options are available.At land borders there is no crossing allowed other than for essential services (including trucking, medical, commercial in general). There may be discretion for visiting family members, a dying relative, etc. So if that is the "obstacle to overcome".
By air it is possible, but you have to quarantine for 2 weeks on arrival. With the exception of Alberta I think, where you can opt for a test and a shorter quarantine. That relaxed policy may be extended to other airports accepting international flights, but if so I have not heard. Flying in to Alberta (Calgary) and getting to Montreal would be pretty much ridiculous.
Or you could fly into Montreal, quarantine for 2 weeks, and then "vacation". So that certainly is an obstacle I'm guessing.
Better options available. I totally agree.
Does she still work in Montreal? Probably not, but I had a thing for her years ago. I was hoping against hope she might still be doing video or something. Any updates on her?You mean the red head porn star Christine Young? It's been a long while since she's out of the spotlight. She would be nearly 40 now. To my knowledge only one porn star from the early 2000 is still working, the fabulous Anna at Euphoria.
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