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Admin2
12-16-16, 14:31
The ISG welcomes Smooci as a Site Sponsor

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JayDee006
12-19-16, 10:24
Has anyone used this site / app yet and if so how was the system?

Oliver Kitsoff
12-23-16, 12:02
But seriously, I have bored my mates shitless before it was a thing, saying that Thailand needs an 'Uber' style app that will put the bar-fining mamasans and other bar parasites out of business (or make them improve services).

So how did they get it launched to the world? eg: the app needs girls to be there for the punters, but how do you get the girls to sign up if there's no punters? Easy, you offer your 'disruptor' as a 'middleman' to escort services!

Since smooci have done this, I now know there has to be a better method to actually 'disrupt' the industry, not just put up a fancy middleman site that is pretending to be uber for gash. I intend to find it.

I will be watching smooci and looking for ways it can be iterated even better (just like facebook bounced off myspace to summit even greater heights).

I have just had a look at the site (no app yet as such) the cheapest price for 1 hour was B2,500 one pop! Most want B 3,000 and some 'pretties' asking B4,000 these girls are dreaming! That low price is more expensive than an hour in Germany! And the high price equals an hour in fucking Sydney, one of the most expensive cities in the world! WTF.

I used to get ST out of Thermae before it went Ja-poon-ese B1000 at least two pops, and pictures (B 100 'taxi' tip)

Let me put this in perspective in Thailand prices... my dentist has just x-rayed me, given me two novocaine jabs, removed a crown than had infection under it, and replaced with a temporary crown ALL for B 1700.
And all of that was more than two hours work as the crown had a troublesome anchor pin that would not budge.

So these girls are asking for 8x what a Thai dentist charges per hour, given they'll likely waste time showering you/themselves, talking shit, and etc. and maybe spend 30 minutes on actual sex if you're lucky, looks like there's a market for cheaper poon waiting to be tapped online still.

Sunlover2
12-23-16, 13:04
Connecting on-line seems to be the way the Thailand mongering scene is trending, so IMO Smooci can be a useful tool in this regard. It appears you are still paying more than you would with a Nana FL / SW or BG lady, but less than a traditional escort service. Basically you are paying for the convenience if you see someone you fancy.

If I was thinking outcall I would probably go with a PSE shop option like 2 hours 3,000 baht from Snow White or 2 hours 2,500 baht from Bamboo, but it is nice to have additional resources.

SL.

Oliver Kitsoff
12-23-16, 13:16
Connecting on-line seems to be the way the Thailand mongering scene is trending, so IMO Smooci can be a useful tool in this regard. It appears you are still paying more than you would with a Nana FL / SW or BG lady, but less than a traditional escort service. Basically you are paying for the convenience if you see someone you fancy.

If I was thinking outcall I would probably go with a PSE shop option like 2 hours 3,000 baht from Snow White or 2 hours 2,500 baht from Bamboo, but it is nice to have additional resources.

SL.I am all for the internet of everything, in Thailand, Uber has kicked the corrupt butt of the tuk tuk and taxi mafia, especially up north, although the Government are against it, and why? Because the greedy bastards can't have a cut of course! So like them, fucking dinosaurs, they have no clue.

As you say, it's nice to have options, I can see a low-end response to smooci doing VERY well in the online space. I think 'skanki' would be an excellent working title, stay tuned.

Klassic
01-03-17, 11:06
Used Smooci, my hotel telephone rang within 30 seconds of booking a girl confirming my booking. - Pretty professional in my books.

The discounts are great compared to regular agencies.

I haven't been offered to rate my girl yet, I don't get how the stars system work if I don't get a chance to rate the girl.

Member #4591
01-03-17, 18:50
Connecting on-line seems to be the way the Thailand mongering scene is trending, so IMO Smooci can be a useful tool in this regard. It appears you are still paying more than you would with a Nana FL / SW or BG lady, but less than a traditional escort service. Basically you are paying for the convenience if you see someone you fancy.

If I was thinking outcall I would probably go with a PSE shop option like 2 hours 3,000 baht from Snow White or 2 hours 2,500 baht from Bamboo, but it is nice to have additional resources.

SL.2 hours at Snow White is not 3,000 Baht, it's 2,300 Baht. 1,900 for 1 hour, 2,100 for 1. 5 hours, and 2,300 for 2 hours.

This service is nothing different than an escort service. They just repackage the ladies on a different site. If you look at many of the Bangkok escort agencies, you will see many ladies on multiple sites. And then you see them in a massage shop, or in the disco.

Since they are a sponsoring member and can advertise, I for one would love for them to post in their own thread telling us their business model so we can learn more before trying their service. For example, what's the advantage of using their site when we can look at the girl on this site, see what agency she works for and then call them directly at their agency and pay the same fee.

Please tell us your business concept so we can learn how your service would be beneficial for us. Thanks in advance.

*** I now know how it works. Smooci is just acting as a middle man between the escort agency or independent provider. Their claim to fame is to increase the rate of successful bookings. I don't see how this business model will be successful since the agencies and providers will just be adding another expense to reduce their profits. Thais look a things a little differently, it's not about convenience, it's about how much money they can make per client. They simply don't care about customer service in this business.Good luck to smooci!!! I hope it works out for them!*****

But I'm still really curious about what smooci will say so please tell me the advantage of using your service instead of calling the agency listed in the girls photo. Is it cheaper for me? More reliable? Are we saying don't call the agency directly because they are not reliable? Please tell me. Thanks. We are all eagerly waiting to learn how the new service really works. I hope the person in charge of smooci can tell us.

WildBillLewis
01-03-17, 22:08
I will be watching smooci and looking for ways it can be iterated even better (just like facebook bounced off myspace to summit even greater heights).

I have just had a look at the site (no app yet as such) the cheapest price for 1 hour was B2,500 one pop! Most want B 3,000 and some 'pretties' asking B4,000 these girls are dreaming!

Let me put this in perspective in Thailand prices... my dentist has just x-rayed me, given me two novocaine jabs, removed a crown than had infection under it, and replaced with a temporary crown ALL for B 1700.
And all of that was more than two hours work as the crown had a troublesome anchor pin that would not budge.

So these girls are asking for 8x what a Thai dentist charges per hour, given they'll likely waste time showering you/themselves, talking shit, and etc. and maybe spend 30 minutes on actual sex if you're lucky, looks like theres a market for cheaper poon waiting to be tapped online still...I like the perspective you bring. Keep it up. And let's hope that a dynamic market narrows the gap between ask and offer.

SmoociApp
01-04-17, 04:39
Used Smooci, my hotel telephone rang within 30 seconds of booking a girl confirming my booking. - Pretty professional in my books.

The discounts are great compared to regular agencies.

I haven't been offered to rate my girl yet, I don't get how the stars system work if I don't get a chance to rate the girl.Hi Klassic,

First of all, thanks for trying out smooci I hope smooci made it easier for you to book your companion.

An email should have been sent to you as soon as your companion presses "complete" on her phone or until booking times out. Please let me know if you still have not received an email.

Crocodilexp
01-04-17, 04:55
Connecting on-line seems to be the way the Thailand mongering scene is trending, so IMO Smooci can be a useful tool in this regard.

I hope I'm wrong, but as more time passes, more I think Smocci will flop or at best stagnate.

Choosing a girl online is NOT a convenience worth paying extra for the majority of mongers. You don't get to see a girl or interact with her in any way, it's basically like a blind date except that you might get a few heavily edited pics which tell you about 20% as much as a single 5-second look at the real person does. You can't discuss services or get a sense of enthusiasm and personal chemistry. You don't get any of the benefits of choosing, just guessing. You don't get to go with the girl immediately, right then and there.

Now, if there were 100's of girls online at competitive prices, not available otherwise (as in the HK 141 scene), picking online would be a worthwhile compromise (albeit always a compromise).

At the moment, Smooci wedged itself firmly itself into the escort market (a tiny niche in Bangkok), providing a discount over escort sites, but still at a 50-100% markup over freelancer rates, and a 30-50% markup over over oily massage girl rates. At the latter, the benefit of choosing in person and impulse buys are a huge advantage, and at PSE oilies like Snow White service guarantees / standards are strong as well (you can get 2 h with unlimited shots for 2300).

To succeed, an online booking system has to go mass market, both with customers and with providers. Sites like this strongly depend on network effects -- the more customers there are the more girls it attracts and vice versa.

I have high hopes for a service like Smocci one day, but it'll have to be both price-competitive with the freelancers (cheap enough that a shot in the dark is worthwhile, so 1000-2000 baht for a one-pop session), have a significant provider base (with under 100 girls it's just a beefed-up escort agency), and as perhaps add a way to contact the providers to negotiate a few details, as well as have a more solid review system (stars mean nothing and are easily manipulated, and the site has every incentive to manipulate them, for instance removing low scores).

Moreover, you have to build momentum quickly. At the moment, I check Smooci 2-3 times a week (it's an interesting concept), but it's not yet compelling enough for a booking. If it doesn't shape up within a month or so, I (and most monger) probably won't check it again.

Wish you best of luck.

EihTooms
01-04-17, 05:21
I hope I'm wrong, but as more time passes, more I think Smocci will flop or at best stagnate.

Choosing a girl online is NOT a convenience worth paying extra for the majority of mongers. You don't get to see a girl or interact with her in any way, it's basically like a blind date except that you might get a few heavily edited pics which tell you about 20% as much as a single 5-second look at the real person does. You can't discuss services or get a sense of enthusiasm and personal chemistry. You don't get any of the benefits of choosing, just guessing. You don't get to go with the girl immediately, right then and there.There is a Special Requests box available before booking. As far as discussing services in more detail beforehand, I think if I were going to book a girl through smooci, I would lay it all out in that Special Requests box and wait for a yea or nay to what I would be willing to part with 3,000+ baht for with the girl even if the pics are photoshopped, but assuming it is at least close.

Otherwise, I think the most you stand to lose by being shocked out of the mood when the real lady shows up is, not sure, maybe 1,000 baht to cancel on the spot? I wish I only lost 1,000 baht on those occasions a seen and met girl changed her tune, totally dropped the built up chemistry and suddenly forgot all the things she said she would do for me in the bar. And how many of those 1,000 baht cancellations would smooci be willing to put up with on an individual girl before relenting and deciding to put more honest pics of her on the site?

Syzygies
01-04-17, 05:32
At the moment, Smooci wedged itself firmly itself into the escort market (a tiny niche in Bangkok), providing a discount over escort sites, but still at a 50-100% markup over freelancer rates, and a 30-50% markup over over oily massage girl rates. At the latter, the benefit of choosing in person and impulse buys are a huge advantage, and at PSE oilies like Snow White service guarantees / standards are strong as well (you can get 2 h with unlimited shots for 2300).

To succeed, an online booking system has to go mass market, both with customers and with providers. Sites like this strongly depend on network effects -- the more customers there are the more girls it attracts and vice versa.The niche seems tiny. Guys wanting an escort urgently within 4 hours or willing to leave it till the last 4 hours and take pot luck with what girls are available, or guys monitoring continually but willing to wait a long time till actually pull the trigger. Personally I would not fit any of these categories. Others might.

Sure its major market should be people who already use Escorts, I don't know how big that market is. Most of them will not be on ISG. Also the discount tries to tempt some guys not normally taking Escorts, but with added pressure to choose something in a hurry without much research about the target girl.

The 4 hour time slot is clearly the key, allowing girls to get a customer for reduced rate who normally would not have one at such short notice. I fear the quality of the girls available may not be the greatest compared to very best Escort girls. You get what you pay for. Ratings show the hit and miss nature of it all.

Some of us have become less and less keen to take the gamble of how good the girl will be preferring more reliable approaches to choosing girls, such as face to face conversation, or reliable massage shops.

Is this App going to work for really cautious guys, very choosy about girl characteristics, probably not? Pull in guys willing to try anything, sucked in by the discount. Anything like this needs significant time to build into something successful. Patience needed and teething troubles to be expected.

The real key is setting up a win / win model for girl and customer and maybe agency and having extremely low overheads.

Is the girl Agency relevant at all? How does that work? I mean some girls work for multiple agencies (unless they all have the same owner) and do freelance too.

Privately I might make an arrangement to meet some girl tomorrow, by LINE contact (no agency involved). However there is no guarantee the girl will actually go through with it. Something may come up. So I can identify with Idea to meet the girl in just 1 hour to increase chance she will not change her mind. Girls are flaky and unreliable. Even if she does show up, likely to be not on time at all. The advantage is the girl and her performance is known already. if she shows up. Always have to have backup plans. LOL

Crocodilexp
01-05-17, 01:58
Is the girl Agency relevant at all? How does that work? I mean some girls work for multiple agencies (unless they all have the same owner) and do freelance too.

However there is no guarantee the girl will actually go through with it. Something may come up. So I can identify with Idea to meet the girl in just 1 hour to increase chance she will not change her mind. Girls are flaky and unreliable. Even if she does show up, likely to be not on time at all.I can't see how involving an agency (which must somehow get a cut) helps attract either girls or customers. It doesn't do much for quality quality either. Perhaps it's necessary as a first step to getting a decent number of girls, but unless Smooci ditches the agencies and manages to attract independents, they'll remain stuck with the small piece of a tiny escort-service niche.

As for guarantees and flakiness, there are none, ever. That's what a good app workflow and review system can supposedly mitigate, although never reliably fix. A smartphone app could actually track the girl's on-time performance with good accuracy without relying on manual reviews. In addition, it could set up an incentive such as the girl making a small deposit when accepting a booking, which is returned when the customer confirms the session has started (but not if she's too late or cancels). Could be as little as 100 baht, loss aversion is a strong motivator.

Member #4591
01-05-17, 08:06
I can't see how involving an agency (which must somehow get a cut) helps attract either girls or customers. It doesn't do much for quality quality either. Perhaps it's necessary as a first step to getting a decent number of girls, but unless Smooci ditches the agencies and manages to attract independents, they'll remain stuck with the small piece of a tiny escort-service niche.

As for guarantees and flakiness, there are none, ever. That's what a good app workflow and review system can supposedly mitigate, although never reliably fix. A smartphone app could actually track the girl's on-time performance with good accuracy without relying on manual reviews. In addition, it could set up an incentive such as the girl making a small deposit when accepting a booking, which is returned when the customer confirms the session has started (but not if she's too late or cancels). Could be as little as 100 baht, loss aversion is a strong motivator.Their business model is good customer service and that seems to translate into something as simple as a successful booking. It seems to be the convenience of an uber style escort booking without the actual app, see my screen shot. I don't see the need or use for it but obviously the escort agencies are having issues with successful bookings so this middle man is required? Not sure I buy that.

It would be nice if the owner would chime in with his ideas so we all can understand, but sadly he's silent! I wonder why?

**** update****
I did compare the rates for some of the girls with their agency and some are cheaper. For example Pure Bangkok escorts prices are 1000 Baht cheaper so that's a good start.

SmoociApp
01-05-17, 14:21
Firstly, thanks for all your comments and feedback, we really do take it all on board.

Please note that Smooci is very far from being a completed product, and there are a lot of positive things going on behind the scenes as we speak.

Very basically, Smooci is a platform for Escort agencies and independents to offer their services and users to make instant bookings. Smooci has a live api system which is retrieving live information on the availability of the companion directly from their app. (each companion has their own app), the benefit of this is users will not get the call and say. I am sorry, this companion is not available. Or worst, the agency performs a bait and switch on you. With smooci, we do have technical algorithms in place to check for bait and switch. Booking at odd hours before would have been tough, but with Smooci, the agency does not have to stay up to facilitate late night bookings as the companion is able to perform the check, and confirm the booking all by themselves.

Re pricing: We do not set or control pricing. Agencies and independents are free to control their own pricing. We have encouraged agencies to offer competitive pricing on our platform, and the feedback has been very positive, with most agencies seeing an increase in bookings and they have continued their initial price structure on smooci.

One important thing to note is that our companion app (the app needed for independent Escorts to work on smooci and manage their profile and bookings) is still being tested and updated and is not ready to be released, hence we currently only have agency Escorts on our platform. Once this app is ready for release we will then open up to independent Escorts, which will mean more companions and a wide range of pricing (and what we hope will be more competitive pricing in general). We have a database of interested independents ready to be added to the platform as soon as we are happy to release the independent app to them but at the moment we cannot confirm when this will be.

Benefits to users (long term):

- Competitive pricing (in the long term we hope that our platform will create a more competitively priced market, with agency escorts and independents all competing on a more even playing field).

- The ability to search multiple agencies and independents in one place with instant availability checks and booking confirmation through our api.

- Higher standards. In the long term we hope the even playing field and rating system will help highlight the best companions and raise standards in general. We will also be introducing a vetting and verification system for all companions, and try to tackle the issue of heavily photoshopped profile pictures.

- Improved customer service with 24/7 support.

- GPS tracking. This additional feature allows users to track their companions to their door, allowing for more accurate arrival times.

Benefits to Escort agencies:

- A larger customer base and brand building opportunities.

- Automated booking. Meaning 24/7 bookings, client verification etc. Agencies can operate around the clock with less staff and outgoing costs.

- The opportunity to build reputation through good service.

Benefits to Independent escorts (long term):

- The chance to compete with agency Escorts.

- Access to a large customer base.

- The tools to manage and organize themselves on a whole new level (price, availability, booking records, schedule).

Again, please note that Smooci is still very much work in process with a lot of improvements to come, and we are very much open to all feedback. Our goal is to improve the Escort booking experience for both the users and companions, creating higher standards and more healthy competition within the markets, and we wish to work with both in order to achieve this.

Member #4591
01-05-17, 16:51
Firstly, thanks for all your comments and feedback, we really do take it all on board.

Please note that Smooci is very far from being a completed product, and there are a lot of positive things going on behind the scenes as we speak.

Very basically, Smooci is a platform for Escort agencies and independents to offer their services and users to make instant bookings. Smooci has a live api system which is retrieving live information on the availability of the companion directly from their app. (each companion has their own app), the benefit of this is users will not get the call and say. I am sorry, this companion is not available. Or worst, the agency performs a bait and switch on you. With smooci, we do have technical algorithms in place to check for bait and switch. Booking at odd hours before would have been tough, but with Smooci, the agency does not have to stay up to facilitate late night bookings as the companion is able to perform the check, and confirm the booking all by themselves.

Re pricing: We do not set or control pricing. Agencies and independents are free to control their own pricing. We have encouraged agencies to offer competitive pricing on our platform, and the feedback has been very positive, with most agencies seeing an increase in bookings and they have continued their initial price structure on smooci.

One important thing to note is that our companion app (the app needed for independent Escorts to work on smooci and manage their profile and bookings) is still being tested and updated and is not ready to be released, hence we currently only have agency Escorts on our platform. Once this app is ready for release we will then open up to independent Escorts, which will mean more companions and a wide range of pricing (and what we hope will be more competitive pricing in general). We have a database of interested independents ready to be added to the platform as soon as we are happy to release the independent app to them but at the moment we cannot confirm when this will be.

Benefits to users (long term):

- Competitive pricing (in the long term we hope that our platform will create a more competitively priced market, with agency escorts and independents all competing on a more even playing field).

- The ability to search multiple agencies and independents in one place with instant availability checks and booking confirmation through our api.

- Higher standards. In the long term we hope the even playing field and rating system will help highlight the best companions and raise standards in general. We will also be introducing a vetting and verification system for all companions, and try to tackle the issue of heavily photoshopped profile pictures.

- Improved customer service with 24/7 support.

- GPS tracking. This additional feature allows users to track their companions to their door, allowing for more accurate arrival times.

Benefits to Escort agencies:

- A larger customer base and brand building opportunities.

- Automated booking. Meaning 24/7 bookings, client verification etc. Agencies can operate around the clock with less staff and outgoing costs.

- The opportunity to build reputation through good service.

Benefits to Independent escorts (long term):

- The chance to compete with agency Escorts.

- Access to a large customer base.

- The tools to manage and organize themselves on a whole new level (price, availability, booking records, schedule).

Again, please note that Smooci is still very much work in process with a lot of improvements to come, and we are very much open to all feedback. Our goal is to improve the Escort booking experience for both the users and companions, creating higher standards and more healthy competition within the markets, and we wish to work with both in order to achieve this.That's great. If you don't mind I will add the information that you sent to me to enhance this post.

I asked Smooci what is the benefit of using their service instead booking with the agency directly. They replied with a very detailed and informative answer. The good news is I will be booking with them next week. As far I can see, there is no app but the website operates like an app. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Anyways, here's their reply:

That is a difficult question to answer, and it really depends on the circumstances. In some cases it may be better to book directly with the agency, especially if you have unique circumstances, wish to book for longer than 24 hours, or if you would like to book more than 4 hours in advance.

In some cases it may be advantageous to book through smooci, for example you may get a better price than going direct to the agency; you may wish to use our rating service to select your compaion or have the opportunity to rate your experience after (this is still new but some companions already have a rating); through our service you will also get a large selection of companions from several agencies which you can use to compare services and prices; and you may also enjoy using our GPS tracking system which is available on most bookings.

We are a new service and still developing, but our aim is to create higher standards through our verification and rating system, and to create higher standards, reliable customer services, and more competitive rates, through sharing our tools and creating an even playing field.

You can also follow our progress through our blog, which we will aim to keep our users uptodate on our progress http://blog.smooci.com/.



Thanks again to smooci for the excellent reply. It only took a few hours for them to reply to my email and they were very polite even when knowing I was not making a booking at that time.

Tiandihui
01-06-17, 04:09
That's great. If you don't mind I will add the information that you sent to me to enhance this post.

I asked Smooci what is the benefit of using their service instead booking with the agency directly. They replied with a very detailed and informative answer. The good news is I will be booking with them next week. As far I can see, there is no app but the website operates like an app. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Anyways, here's their reply:

That is a difficult question to answer, and it really depends on the circumstances. In some cases it may be better to book directly with the agency, especially if you have unique circumstances, wish to book for longer than 24 hours, or if you would like to book more than 4 hours in advance.

In some cases it may be advantageous to book through smooci, for example you may get a better price than going direct to the agency; you may wish to use our rating service to select your compaion or have the opportunity to rate your experience after (this is still new but some companions already have a rating); through our service you will also get a large selection of companions from several agencies which you can use to compare services and prices;...Bkkdog is a senior member in here and so I guess your words can be trusted. As many mentioned before, need the seniors to verified.

Anyway, I myself think smooci might be a good choice. They are like big C or HOMEPRO. LOL. Just a funny thoughts though.

Browse through the site last night and still considering to try, came across a few escorts at the rates 2 hrs 3000 thb and 1 HR at 2400 thb. Seriously. If more of this rates are on more of the girls listed in smooci, you guys will be busy I guess. 2 hrs 3000 thb with 2 shots allows (correct me if I'm wrong) without bar fines, without paying tips, without buying own drinks, without taxi fares to and fro, without ladies drink and etc. Well worth it IMO. May not apply to others who just insist on eye candy.

Jude Bright
01-06-17, 06:39
Firstly, thanks for all your comments and feedback, we really do take it all on board.

achieve this.Will visit BKK for the first time and landing in airport by 11:10 pm. I guess I may not be able to get in my hotel 1 am. I may be tired to go out to gogo or freelance, and think it is better to get escort services. I have looking at your web and I think it would be helpful to specify what each girl will do and will not do, such as DFK, BBBJ, rim, a level etc. What if I booked on line and I do not like the look when I see the girl in person, can I cancel it?

Thk.

Jb.

BionicMan
01-06-17, 22:58
Will visit BKK for the first time and landing in airport by 11:10 pm. I guess I may not be able to get in my hotel 1 am. I may be tired to go out to gogo or freelance, and think it is better to get escort services. I have looking at your web and I think it would be helpful to specify what each girl will do and will not do, such as DFK, BBBJ, rim, a level etc. What if I booked on line and I do not like the look when I see the girl in person, can I cancel it?

Thk.

Jb.To whom are you writing this?

Syzygies
01-07-17, 02:22
To whom are you writing this?Obviously to anyone who can provide a good answer, which is not me. Obviously "your web" refers to someone running Smooci or similar. Not all parts of a post need to be addressed to exactly the same person.

Jude Bright
01-07-17, 02:37
To whom are you writing this?I thought "Originally Posted by SmoociApp " is the person who running the Smooci.

Jb.

Preben From Dk
01-07-17, 03:19
Will visit BKK for the first time and landing in airport by 11:10 pm. I guess I may not be able to get in my hotel 1 am. I may be tired to go out to gogo or freelance, and think it is better to get escort services. I have looking at your web and I think it would be helpful to specify what each girl will do and will not do, such as DFK, BBBJ, rim, a level etc. What if I booked on line and I do not like the look when I see the girl in person, can I cancel it?

Thk.

Jb.Hi JB,

They do specify that crucial information, to a certain point.

Random profile. Carla.

BBBJ CIM COB COF Couples DFK Full Service Rimming.

EihTooms
01-07-17, 03:43
I have looking at your web and I think it would be helpful to specify what each girl will do and will not do, such as DFK, BBBJ, rim, a level etc. What if I booked on line and I do not like the look when I see the girl in person, can I cancel it?

Thk.

Jb.Unless or until SmoociApp replies to your post, I think the answers to your questions are kind of easy as smooci exists currently; If you click on the girl's name on the smooci website you will see more pics of her and a list of activities the girl claims she will do, i. e. DFK, BBBJ, CIM, Rimming, etc.

And since there is no requirement for the customer to pay smooci in advance for the girl's services upon booking and she will be asking you to pay her directly upon arrival, whatever happens if you do not like the way she looks or behaves and choose to cancel is pretty much up to you. That includes either giving her nothing, enough for taxi fare or the full amount she cited on her smooci page just for the hell of it.

I assume the girl can cancel upon arrival and seeing us, too. And if she does decide to cancel, I also assume she isn't going to throw in a free quickie BBBJ on the spot anyway just so we won't feel like she and smooci wasted our time, right?

Dion Cassius
01-07-17, 08:33
I have used twice this website already and I am pretty satisfied with their services.

The process is very simple, you can see what girls are available. They are very responsive: as soon as the booking form was completed I received a phone call to my room for confirmation; impressive.

The prices can be more interesting than those found on the agencies' website but not always.

If you want to plan your trip early, then it is better to contact the agency directly.

Wolvenvacht
01-07-17, 09:29
Will visit BKK for the first time and landing in airport by 11:10 pm. I guess I may not be able to get in my hotel 1 am. I may be tired to go out to gogo or freelance, and think it is better to get escort services. I have looking at your web and I think it would be helpful to specify what each girl will do and will not do, such as DFK, BBBJ, rim, a level etc. What if I booked on line and I do not like the look when I see the girl in person, can I cancel it?

Thk.

Jb.Arriving late in Bangkok, probably after a long flight, maybe tired and on your first visit to the City of Angels. And you want to throw your happiness into the arms of a computer program, probably photoshopped pictures and an unknown girl? All that for expensive prices?

If I were you, I'd have a good night's sleep, get rid of my jetlag and have full energy to properly explore the night spots next day.

Syzygies
01-07-17, 10:22
If I were you, I'd have a good night's sleep, get rid of my jetlag and have full energy to properly explore the night spots next day.I think you underestimate how desperate we can get for a fuck after not having had one for weeks. Jet lag is greatly dependent on where you fly in from, whether any sleep was had, etc. , and often hits a day or two later. If fly in from the USA for example, at 1 AM, your body clock will think it is just after midday. So maybe not the right time to sleep. If fly in from Australia, it might be a bit late for a fuck, but won't stop someone really horny.

Hotel 1 am. No problem. I would go get a girl from a bar or streetwalker or anything still open. It might be best to take a cheap alternative first up, in case it disappoints, or the guy's energy levels are not at peak.

Wolvenvacht
01-07-17, 10:41
I think you underestimate how desperate we can get for a fuck after not having had one for weeks.Perhaps. I think it is generally a bad idea to be ruled by your passions and emotions. But on the other hand, even when having great sex, there is always a tiny little bit of me that does not fully gives in to the situation and keeps a finger hovering over the emergency brake button. Probably comes with my training as a lawyer and army officer. LOL. I sometimes envy people that can fully abandon themselves into their passions.

LA Guy 5
01-07-17, 10:51
There is one thing odd I noticed with the Smooci website that seems a bit off. When looking at the girl's services, every listing I checked indicated the guy gets two shots and this was so irrespective of whether the booking was for two, four, six, or even eight hours. This doesn't seem right and I'm wondering whether it represents a default in the program that isn't being adjusted for the amount of time a girl is booked for. Some clarification on this would be helpful.

Also, regarding the ratings it would be helpful in each case to know the number of ratings each girl got in addition to the mean score. A high rating would generally mean more if it is the average of 10 or 20 ratings rather than one or two. In fact, it would be helpful to see the distribution of ratings so we could tell the degree to which a mean rating is being affected by outliers.

Crocodilexp
01-07-17, 11:41
I'm seeing several low ratings on Smocci (from 1. 6 to 2. X). It's actually reassuring, kudos for keep them and not faking the numbers.

Member #4698
01-07-17, 14:17
I can still remember arriving late at night after long 22 plus hour flights in various new (to me) Asian cities and not knowng any girls. Adreniline and the thrill of meeting new takes over and I want to go out. What's the alternative? Most likely you won't be able to sleep no matter how "tired" you are from the flight without the use of sleeping pills because of the 12 hour time lag. So my advice is take a fast shower, change clothes, and check out BKK at night. There will be plenty of friendly talent waiting to make your aquaintance at Climax from midnight to 3 am plus all the soi 11 massage girls will be hanging out with welcoming smiles on their faces just for you. You will enjoy it. So have a nice ST, maybe a bite to eat, and then try sleep. I always sleep better after sex.

Member #4591
01-07-17, 14:34
There is one thing odd I noticed with the Smooci website that seems a bit off. When looking at the girl's services, every listing I checked indicated the guy gets two shots and this was so irrespective of whether the booking was for two, four, six, or even eight hours. This doesn't seem right and I'm wondering whether it represents a default in the program that isn't being adjusted for the amount of time a girl is booked for. Some clarification on this would be helpful.

Also, regarding the ratings it would be helpful in each case to know the number of ratings each girl got in addition to the mean score. A high rating would generally mean more if it is the average of 10 or 20 ratings rather than one or two. In fact, it would be helpful to see the distribution of ratings so we could tell the degree to which a mean rating is being affected by outliers.I think it's a bit much for them to list the exact number of reviews each lady has received. Would you like photos and videos as well? The fact that this is an Independent site should be good enough. As for the review system itself. I will be happy to report back with the questions they ask after my booking. I plan to book on Thursday or late Wednesday night this coming week.

Member #4591
01-07-17, 14:37
Arriving late in Bangkok, probably after a long flight, maybe tired and on your first visit to the City of Angels. And you want to throw your happiness into the arms of a computer program, probably photoshopped pictures and an unknown girl? All that for expensive prices?

If I were you, I'd have a good night's sleep, get rid of my jetlag and have full energy to properly explore the night spots next day.I don't agree. You can book a girl 1 hour before and the convenience of her arriving while you just get out of the shower, is an amazing thought. Don't be so serious about this thing. If your on a strict budget then I can see how you might think the way you are but I'm thinking as a first hour experience in Bangkok, it's a great idea.

Member #4698
01-07-17, 14:42
I plan to book on Thursday or late Wednesday night this coming week.I must confess that a couple of the under 4000 bt Smooci girls look ok to me. Girls like Smooci Sherry and Smooci Emma.

Its too early to tell if this business plan is going to be of benefit to me or not. But if Smooci can attract independent girls to its site, they really may be on to something. Time will tell. In the meantime I look forward to your review.

OlderMan4U
01-07-17, 15:05
I think there's definitely a customer base for this type of service, legit reasons already mentioned on this thread. Nothing like those days when you want quick service or can't find anything to your liking on your bar crawls.

But personally, not for me. It is just too business like. Now, I'd love something like this back home. But in Thailand, part of the thrill is the fantasy that you picked up your bargirl because she 'likes' you. Yes I am still paying a barfine and her fee and ultimately know it is make believe, but done in a way that does not feel like it.

LA Guy 5
01-07-17, 15:22
I think it's a bit much for them to list the exact number of reviews each lady has received. Would you like photos and videos as well? The fact that this is an Independent site should be good enough. As for the review system itself. I will be happy to report back with the questions they ask after my booking. I plan to book on Thursday or late Wednesday night this coming week.It is common on websites of all sorts that have consumer ratings to include the number of ratings along with the mean rating. This is because a mean rating that is based on a large number of reviews or ratings is generally more reliable than one based on very few and this statistical fact has nothing to do with whether a website is independent or not. But hey, it was only a suggestion.

AquaDreams
01-07-17, 15:45
I must confess that a couple of the under 4000 bt Smooci girls look ok to me... ...if Smooci can attract independent girls to its site, they really may be on to something.I've been browsing Smooci regularly for the past week and even taking into consideration the photoshop factor I'm seeing quite a few ladies that look more than just "OK" personally I am willing to spend more $ once for an extraordinary experience, which for me is somewhat edgy stunning Thai beauty combined with a full array of enthusiastic services offered, rather than hit a well known PSE oily twice. For me, a married guy who won't have this option (a few days alone in BKK) more than a few times the rest of my life, I want to go for the proverbial brass ring. Last night I read a passionate take from one of the members here on Opor at Tulip, which made me slightly reassess my plan for next month. Yeah, there are a few standouts to be had for 2500 or so in oily and soapy land. But geez, I see comments like "the post that started it all!" referring to Ninja. Seriously, Ninja. Pudgy faced, fake tits, average looking. Sure she's cute and performs well, but if she is the supposed gold standard I feel sorry for you guys who think so. As the world economies begin to tank smooci will become a mecca for hot quality.

ParkVille
01-07-17, 16:46
I don't understand why the price for a girl I can't even see in person is 2 x much. It should be the other way around.

Member #4591
01-07-17, 16:53
I don't understand why the price for a girl I can't even see in person is 2 x much. It should be the other way around.Convenience. Escort services are not for everyone, especially if you are on a budget. How and why is the escort agency concept not understanble to you?

Jude Bright
01-07-17, 21:06
II don't agree. You can book a girl 1 hour before and the convenience of her arriving while you just get out of the shower, is an amazing thought. don't .

BKKdog, well said. I want to thank all of you for the input and informative discussion. I will have only 17 to 18 hours alone before my wife joint me in BKK. That is why I do not want to waster any opportunity. My plan is as soon as I get into my hotel, the Double tree Hilton, hopefully 1 am as I will land in airport 11:10 pm. Set up the escort, hopefully the escort will arrive just after get something to eat and finish the shower. Have fun in my hotel, hopefully to sleep at 2 or 3 am. Get up next day at noon? Hit soppy, later gogo bar for a few hours, then that is the end of my alone live for this BKK visit.

Jb.

Tiandihui
01-08-17, 06:46
I did tried smooci.com last night. Booked twice actually. 1st was Saya under newbangkokescort.com at 1 HR 4000 thb and another was Nun from myprincessbangkok.com at 2 hrs 3000 thb.

Both are 85% accurate in real person compare to their pictures listed in Smooci. Benefits of doubts from the lightings and angles.

To my own opinion, Seriously why not for Smooci? Lower rates then website direct booking and same service provided by the girls.

Almost instant response and booking confirmation. I'm able to track and see the location of the escort I've booked at real time from my smartphone (Those who don't have smartphone, don't complain).

With this, I can play with my own time nicely and I'm sure many will be excited and keep thinking when the escort will arrive and blah blah blah. This works perfectly to my experience in using Escorts for past many years nd around other countries.

According to the customer services from newbangkokescort, whoever is available in the smooci site are the girls who are actually available and there are various agencies listed their girls in smooci. Its a one stop site for all (who uses escort online services).

I can really see smooci being able to change the market.

Not forgetting, there are sure people who will say I can see the girls in bar and choose what I want. Detour dude, this is about escort online. So go to the thread talking about bar girls and carry on the barking.

Crocodilexp
01-08-17, 07:25
Yeah, there are a few standouts to be had for 2500 or so in oily and soapy land. But geez, I see comments like "the post that started it all!" referring to Ninja. Seriously, Ninja. Pudgy faced, fake tits, average looking. Sure she's cute and performs well, but if she is the supposed gold standard I feel sorry for you guys who think so. It's 2100 for 90 min **multiple pops** in the PSE oily land actually. I know measly 400 baht doesn't matter to the "high-class escort" users, but let's at least get the price correct.

As for Ninja, I agree she's not all that special in the looks department, but I'd bet you a fairly big sum she's both younger and cuter than most of the escorts in photoshopped pictures.

Member #4591
01-08-17, 07:49
I've been browsing Smooci regularly for the past week and even taking into consideration the photoshop factor I'm seeing quite a few ladies that look more than just "OK" personally I am willing to spend more $ once for an extraordinary experience, which for me is somewhat edgy stunning Thai beauty combined with a full array of enthusiastic services offered, rather than hit a well known PSE oily twice. For me, a married guy who won't have this option (a few days alone in BKK) more than a few times the rest of my life.

I completely agree with you on that point. If you want something, go big and get exactly what you want.

Syzygies
01-08-17, 10:05
Pudgy faced, fake tits, average looking. Sure she's cute and performs well, but if she is the supposed gold standard I feel sorry for you guys who think so. As the world economies begin to tank smooci will become a mecca for hot quality.To me "cute" does not go with "average". So which is it? Have you actually tried her or met her? I have not met her myself. Average in Snow White is certainly not going to be called cute. Even average outside SW is not very special.

Smooci a mecca for hot quality? I hardly think so. A really mixed bag of good and poor is much more likely. I don't see there is any standard girls have to reach to be on Smooci.

Member #4591
01-08-17, 10:35
To me "cute" does not go with "average". So which is it? Have you actually tried her or met her? I have not met her myself. Average in Snow White is certainly not going to be called cute. Even average outside SW is not very special.

Smooci a mecca for hot quality? I hardly think so. A really mixed bag of good and poor is much more likely. I don't see there is any standard girls have to reach to be on Smooci.No need to clutter this thread with discussions about an MP girl. I've bumped it over to the proper thread. Hope that's ok!

SmoociApp
01-12-17, 14:24
Services provided

As someone already kindly pointed out, you will find a list of services a companion provides on their profile. We aim to keep the platform as clean and simple as possible.

Ratings

The rating of an escort will only be displayed once a minimum number of 3 respondents is achieved. The escort will then have a star rating based on these scores. Over time we will be adjusting the algorithm to better reflect the quality of service the escort provides and as our data set increases.

Photo accuracy

With regards to comments about photo accuracy, I think these comments are more a response to the Escort industry as a whole and not a result of smooci (also an issue found in online dating and hookup sites). We currently check the reputation and performance of all agencies before we accept them on to our platform. We do intent in the future to implement a better system to verify photos the companions use.

The customer ratings system should also be useful when choosing an escort and be a measure of accuracy of photos as well as service.

This is an industry wide problem and one which we intend to address. It is hard to solve quickly, however, we will do our best to introduce some photo verification and attempt to tackle the issue.

Crocodilexp
01-12-17, 19:19
The customer ratings system should also be useful when choosing an escort and be a measure of accuracy of photos as well as service.Service quality and photo accuracy are entirely separate issue.

I would never give a poor rating to a girl who provided great service if her photos were inaccurate (though I may well have refused her at the door). Equally, I'd not rate a girl higher with accurate photos but poor service. I guess if she had both fake photos and horrible service, it would be a hearty one star, but that's just one case where the two ratings coincide.

Would be nice to have a bit more info than a single star rating, perhaps space for a short review/comment.

Tummen
01-15-17, 12:32
Never seen such an obvious photoshopping as in the case of Fujis pics.

Look at the stones, kind of funny shaped.

Syzygies
01-16-17, 04:22
Never seen such an obvious photoshopping as in the case of Fujis pics.

Look at the stones, kind of funny shaped.Ha Ha. Yes Educational. Her feet look very big compared to her waist.

Tiandihui
01-16-17, 04:26
Never seen such an obvious photoshopping as in the case of Fujis pics.

Look at the stones, kind of funny shaped.I think if you want to talk about all time "Best Photoshopped" Pic, the title will go to "Grace" The tall and saggy boobs Grace. She is in all sites possible I guess. Should see her pics and her person in real. LOLx.

Syzygies
01-17-17, 06:46
I think if you want to talk about all time "Best Photoshopped" Pic, the title will go to "Grace" The tall and saggy boobs Grace. She is in all sites possible I guess. Should see her pics and her person in real. LOLx.Yes we got warned about Grace / Sanya some time back (Aug 2015). Would be nice to see a real pic though. LOL. Could be she was really hot when a lot younger? I have seen various pics of her and sometimes was very hard to believe it was the same girl.


Listed in different names.
http://www.luxuryhotgirl.com/index.php/sanya
Very saggy boobs, should be more than 31, not worth the money.

My GF is late 30s, has a child, and yet still has a great body very little sag. Maybe did not breast feed much. I wonder why some are fortunate and not others.

Grace pictured, not my GF. Based on this pic, I would pass. I don't know how realistic it is. Other much younger pics exist (less real).

For escort level money, an 18 YO like Bam would be a better possibility for me, and I was considering her:
http://www.escortdirectory.com/escort/Bam-42481/

Then again I found another website that made me change my mind (bad nose job):
https://bangkok.escortsdot.com/bam Why the fuck, did she do it? Looks great in the first web site. Pics adjusted maybe? or maybe she looked a lot better before surgeries.

Looking at pics is all too risky. Are there actually any really pretty escorts out there at all? The whole scene is depressing for me. How to find really beautiful girls to my spec without surgeries, so that I would not mind paying more? Probably an impossible task. Even the famous Faline looked a bit pudgy for me in Stickman's column.

SmoociApp
01-17-17, 07:57
Re: photoshopping

We certainly share your concerns over the photoshopping, one of the original motivations behind the Smooci project was to improve the standards and create a level playing field for all agencies and independents, and verifying photos / photo standards is an important part of that in our long term goals.

Again, please understand that this is an industry wide problem and something that we have seen with just about every agency we have been in contact with, in Bangkok and beyond. While we haven't been able to check and vet individual photos, we have checked the reputation and standards of all the agencies we have accepted so far (and have rejected some which we felt weren't up to standard).

In the past photoshopping has seen as being acceptable and 'the norm', but we hope to change that.

Re: ratings and reviews.

We received feedback from two users who had made bookings and had been asked to give their companion a rating while still in their presence, and in both cases they said they felt somewhat pressured to give a very good rating. While this was a bit unexpected it at least shows us that the companions are aware of the rating system, its importance, and the need to maintain good service.

In both cases we allowed the users to edit their ratings and gave warnings to the companions. We have now changed the system so that users have 7 days to submit their rating and review, and a further 4 hours to edit their rating after original submission.

EihTooms
01-20-17, 03:07
SmoociApp, are there any plans to allow potential customers browsing your site to filter out profiles based on services the girls offer? I think that would be very useful. Personally, I would not be the least bit interested in choosing a girl who does not offer, for example, DFK or BBBJ+CIM and find it annoying to have to scroll down through a dozen or more girls' profiles to weed out those who do not.

Also, I see on your site's blog that you have now included some guidelines for what kind of experiences might deserve a particular rating. I think that is a good idea. Sure, it might still evolve over time. But for now it offers at least a starting point for what the star ratings are all about, what in your opinion deserves a 4 or 5 star rating and what does not, and what a customer looking to book an escort through your site might reasonably expect based on those ratings.

I also appreciate that your standards as expressed in those guidelines are fairly high in order for a girl to earn a 4 or 5 star rating. I'm with you on that! I doubt I would consider choosing an escort with less than an overall 4 star rating no matter how hot she looks in her pics.

SmoociApp
01-20-17, 15:50
SmoociApp, are there any plans to allow potential customers browsing your site to filter out profiles based on services the girls offer?No solid plans yet, but it's definitely something we are considering and we've had other feedback asking for a service filter to be introduced.

At the moment there's a lot going on behind the scenes and we are incredibly busy. We never really had our official launch and things grew very quickly over the last 2 months. At the moment we are trying to keep things as simple and smooth as possible, but once we are in full swing we will certainly be looking to develop the features (while trying to maintain the ease and simplicity of the booking experience).

Regarding the ratings system:

We are trying to set our standards high and encourage users to do the same. Creating high service standards and encouraging companions to be more conscious of their reputation (and rewarding those who offer genuinely good service), is a big part of our goals for smooci. For us, a 5 star is an exceptional experience and one you would highly recommend, while a 1 is a very negative experience and one you want to warn everyone about.

Being able to rate your experience in this field and actually influence the scene in a positive way is something quite new to a lot of users, so we thought it's important to have some guidelines to keep everyone working to the same scale. At the moment we've seen a lot of 5 and 1 ratings, but as people get more familiar with the ability to rate and it's overall importance to the grander scheme of things, I'm sure a lot of these 5's and 1's will become 4's and 2's, saving the highest and lowest ratings for more exceptional experiences, creating a more reliable rating system.

If anyone would like to look at our suggested ratings you can find it here in our blog - http://blog.smooci.com/post/star-rating-guide.

EihTooms
01-30-17, 11:56
SmoociApp, congratulations on the terrific article about your service on this week's Stickman Bangkok Weekly! He makes as good a case as I have ever read for the value to the customers and the girls of your Star Rating Guide. And he accurately points out there isn't anything comparable to it in Bangkok.

However, I have discovered that the follow-up email to the customer asking if he would like to rate the girl and his experience with her does not include a recap of the very useful Star Rating Guidelines you spelled out so well in the blog section of your site's homepage. Wouldn't that be a perfect place for you to include those Guidelines, every word of them, right on that email where you are asking the customer to rate the girl / experience? As it is now, the customer is only taken to a page with five "hearts" (not "stars") on which to choose his rating of the girl. My guess is the vast majority of customers would have no idea your Star Rating Guidelines even exist, have never read them and don't even know where to find them on your site. Consequently, as far as I know, virtually none of the ratings the girls have earned up to now coincide with or represent in any way what you have established and suggested the next customer might assume they represent.

Maybe you have practical reasons for not including your Star Rating Guidelines in that follow-up email. If not, is there any chance you might start including those Guidelines on the follow-up email asking the customer for a rating so he will at least have a shot at providing some objective evaluation of the girl's actual performance for the next customer to know about rather than his purely subjective overall impression of her?

Syzygies
01-30-17, 13:41
ET,

I read the rating guidelines, and found nothing really unusual or surprising in there. I think I could have given a girl a fair rating without having read the guidelines. So I don't quite understand why you think guys will rate so wrongly, as yet.

Essentially it comes out something like:

1. Very disappointing, well below average expectation considering money spent. Should not be an escort at all.

2. A little disappointing or a below average expectation, not recommended.

3. Average, acceptable, middle of the road (probably no repeat). Likely to be okay For others. Qualified recommendation.

4. Generally very happy, above average, and could do it again. Recommended.

5. Amazing, exceptional, fantastic time. Well above expectations. Could not find any faults of significance. Highly recommended (if willing to share).

Obviously there are all types of criteria, beauty, figure, personality natural or fake, sweet or aggressive, GFE, pornstar or not.

There are no separate ratings for each category, so we have to roll them all in together.

If I was rating a girl, I would therefore mark her out of 5 in several categories and average them.

If a girl looked nothing like her pics, bait and switch, I would not even accept her from the start (unless she was too pretty to resist). LOL. So that could be an automatic 1.

One guy's 1 is another guy's 5, due to some guys rating pornstar performance others rating other aspects. Would be nice if each rating had a short text to indicate reason for the rating being so high or so low. That is if ratings are ever shown individually.

We know there are pessimists and optimists out there. Optimists will give 5's too easily and pessimists will give 1's too easily. I am probably on the optimists side and very willing to give a girl a fair go, if she has the looks to excite me at all, if she is sweet and has a good attitude.

Perhaps Smooci could ignore guys that rate every girl far below the average rating or every girl far above the average rating, as being guys whose opinions are obviously too warped. You want voters that have different opinions of different girls, ideally, or at least seem to be fair with ratings.

I mean if a guy booked 10 girls and gave them all a 1, you have to think he is a nut case. Who in their right mind would keep booking such pathetic girls not worth the money? LOL. I exaggerate a bit, just to make a point.

If a guy books 10 different girls, gives them all a 5 when their average ratings vary wildly from that, he could be written off as a super suck, too.

EihTooms
01-30-17, 14:46
ET,

I read the rating guidelines, and found nothing really unusual or surprising in there. I think I could have given a girl a fair rating without having read the guidelines. So I don't quite understand why you think guys will rate so wrongly, as yet.

Essentially it comes out something like:

1. Very disappointing, well below average expectation considering money spent. Should not be an escort at all.

2. A little disappointing or a below average expectation, not recommended.

3. Average, acceptable, middle of the road (probably no repeat). Likely to be okay For others. Qualified recommendation.

4. Generally very happy, above average, and could do it again. Recommended.

5. Amazing, exceptional, fantastic time. Well above expectations. Could not find any faults of significance. Highly recommended (if willing to share).

Obviously there are all types of criteria, beauty, figure, personality natural or fake, sweet or aggressive, GFE, pornstar or not.

There are no separate ratings for each category, so we have to roll them all in together.

If I was rating a girl, I would therefore mark her out of 5 in several categories and average them.

If a girl looked nothing like her pics, bait and switch, I would not even accept her from the start (unless she was too pretty to resist). LOL. So that could be an automatic 1.

One guy's 1 is another guy's 5, due to some guys rating pornstar performance others rating other aspects. Would be nice if each rating had a short text to indicate reason for the rating being so high or so low. That is if ratings are ever shown individually.

We know there are pessimists and optimists out there. Optimists will give 5's too easily and pessimists will give 1's too easily. I am probably on the optimists side and very willing to give a girl a fair go, if she has the looks to excite me at all, if she is sweet and has a good attitude.

Perhaps Smooci could ignore guys that rate every girl far below the average rating or every girl far above the average rating, as being guys whose opinions are obviously too warped. You want voters that have different opinions of different girls, ideally, or at least seem to be fair with ratings.

I mean if a guy booked 10 girls and gave them all a 1, you have to think he is a nut case. Who in their right mind would keep booking such pathetic girls not worth the money? LOL. I exaggerate a bit, just to make a point.

If a guy books 10 different girls, gives them all a 5 when their average ratings vary wildly from that, he could be written off as a super suck, too.That's good for you, Syzygies. And if I were to see your rating of a particular girl, I would know what your criteria were. If I were to read the SmoociApp management's rating of a particular girl, I would know what his rating criteria were. But without making sure the next guy rating a girl has at least SEEN the criteria set up and spelled out quite nicely by the owners of smooci.com, I might as well assume the previous customers gave the girl I am thinking of choosing a high rating because she reminded them of their Aunt Tilly. And they always had the hots for their Aunt Tilly. So that means zero to me or anyone else.

Yes, I realize each guy is going to decide whether he wants to follow the guidelines set up on that very site or not. But not making it abundantly apparent that there ARE any criteria that some if not many of the potential customers who have read those criteria have every reason to assume those Star ratings represent renders the Star system mostly meaningless. Those 5 guidelines spelled out by smooci's management should be on the email that asks the customer to rate the girl the same as they are on the website behind the blog button. No reason I can think of not to do it, unless the management has a very practical one I haven't considered.

Frankly, Syzy, the reason you gave, that there is "nothing really unusual or surprising in there" TO YOU would be one of the weakest reasons not to put it there. It does not need to be there in order to "surprise" anyone. Only to help promote some level of consistency and a reference point. The reason, I assume, the management took the time to write it and post it on his blog in the first place.

Here is what happened when my friend gave smooci a try the other day; the girl was mostly what her pic represented and he indeed did engage in FS with her. But when he moved in for a bit of DFK as her profile said she would engage in, it was no go. She would not even open her tightly pursed lips a fraction of an inch. Otherwise, it was also nothing worth repeating. On her way out, she turned and pleaded with him, "You give a '5', yes? I want a 5!" She was talking about the rating system, not a 500 baht tip.

LOL. Shrewdly, and very tellingly, imo, she didn't bring up her great desire to be awarded a '5' at the START of the session where it might have prompted him to say something like, "No problem, sweetheart, just do what you said you would on your profile and I'll give you that '5'. " No, she brought it up on the way OUT. Obviously hoping to play on his natural sympathies and also assuming he hadn't and wouldn't read the criteria on the website before rating her. And what did he do? He gave her a 4!

I told him about the written Star Rating Guidelines on the website, which he had no idea even existed, and he said if he had looked at those guidelines right before submitting a rating there is no way he would have given her a 4 rating. It would have been a 3, at most. He said he gave her a 4 because he thought she was cute, he was rating her LOOKS. In fact, he thought those "hearts" on the rating page instead of the expected "stars" might have been about rating her looks, whether he was attracted to her or something, not about whether or not she delivered as promised. He thought perhaps a star rating option for something else would come up after that.

The only other reason he gave her as much as a 4 rating was because she asked him for a high rating and, this is another point the smooci management ought to clarify, because he thought she might KNOW who gave her what kind of rating and he didn't want to hurt her feelings by giving her too much less than what she asked for. If the girl will never know who gave her what rating, the management at smooci ought to make that clear at rating time, too.

Crocodilexp
01-30-17, 20:06
There is a technical fix the Photoshopping issue.

You could add support in the provider phone app for taking a selfie with a built-in phone camera (without the option to select an existing image), and require that at least one such selfie be posted on the profile for reference. Yes, the image will be unflattering, but it'll be real, and can be just one of the several pictures. Providers might not like this, but it only takes 10 seconds to do (unless they want to set up lighting etc), so it shouldn't be a huge deal.


We have now changed the system so that users have 7 days to submit their rating and review, and a further 4 hours to edit their rating after original submission.Great move. Do make sure to clearly inform the users when they're submitting the rating that they're allowed to change it. An alternative idea is to *not allow* the user to submit the rating for a short period (20-30 min is probably enough), immediately after the session has ended. This might result in fewer ratings, but they might be more accurate.

As for the ratings, you might need to do some clever processing to arrive at something useful, perhaps normalize per-user (once you have sufficient data). Guidelines are fine to have, but vast majority of the users just won't read them, no matter what you do. Worse yet, way too many people (especially Americans!) are conditioned by apps like Uber that anything less than a 5-star rating is a punishment for the service provider, so they might give them indiscriminately (even for average service that merits 3 stars according to guidelines).

HotShaneHot
01-31-17, 12:04
I been trying to book a lady Tip from this site?

But can not?

I was speaking to someone that was telling me she can go at 6 pm.

OK.

So I want to 6pm. Guess what happen I know you know?

Yes sorry Tip is not working now can you back at 9 pm WTF.

Why you don't just say she not working today all?

But you want to joking costumer?

Not happy.

SmoociApp
01-31-17, 13:11
Regarding the ratings page: We are close to upgrading the verification system to make it simpler (with SMS option), which would result in a new ratings page, but we are still about a week away from having this ready.

Reviewing it again we notice there is a little bit of a contradiction, as on the ratings page it regards 3 stars as 'I liked it' where as in our ratings suggestions we regard 3 stars as being 'OK'. This was an oversight and it has only now been brought to our attention; the idea of the ratings guide was brought in over a month after we had already launched the ratings. I'll try get this changed and on the ratings page add a link to the blog with the ratings suggestions, otherwise it will be implemented when we launch the new verification system.

Syzygies
02-01-17, 02:41
Frankly, Syzy, the reason you gave, that there is "nothing really unusual or surprising in there" TO YOU would be one of the weakest reasons not to put it there. It does not need to be there in order to "surprise" anyone. Only to help promote some level of consistency and a reference point. The reason, I assume, the management took the time to write it and post it on his blog in the first place.
I see nothing at all wrong with putting guidelines to how to rate. How could anyone complain about extra information available. I am used to seeing ratings for all sorts of different things for many years (without having a guide to how to rate). So I am merely stating that the initial absence of guidelines in some places is not unusual. Does it cause people to create completely wrong ratings? I don't expect the guidelines to make a huge difference, but I am not objecting to having them.

Your argument seemed a little exaggerated at times, e. G. Aunt Tilly. LOL.

Keeping guidelines short on the place where rating is entered would make people more likely to take notice of them.

The guidelines could potentially be made quite simple: e. G.

1. unsatisfactory, extremely poor.

2. poor, below average.

3. okay, average, just acceptable.

4. good, recommended.

5. super, excellent, highly recommended.

Naturally I would love to rate a girl in 6 different categories, Face, body, skills, attitude, matches photo, GFE, but that is probably going to be too complex, and still very influenced by personal taste. No way can a rating system work perfectly, you just start to get an idea if girl is popular or not, if you know how many people contributed to the average ratings.

Syzygies
02-01-17, 02:50
I been trying to book a lady Tip from this site?

But can not?

I was speaking to someone that was telling me she can go at 6 pm.

OK.

So I want to 6pm. Guess what happen I know you know?

Yes sorry Tip is not working now can you back at 9 pm WTF.

Why you don't just say she not working today all?

But you want to joking costumer?

Not happy.Can't say I fully understand your complaint, Shane. However, my observation is that Smooci App is designed to Select first a time slot that you want a lady, in the next 4 hours, and then it specifies who is available in your chosen time slot.

It does not seem to be geared to you requirement at all at this stage, which is finding out when you can get a particular girl. For that, I would expect you to have to use the old method of booking escorts. I do sympathize with you, since, like you, I would be more keen on finding out when I can get a particular girl, also. That is simply not the current Smoochi functionality, if I am not mistaken.

Others can correct me, if I am wrong.

You get a discount with Smoochi, because you are willing to take someone available in a very short time frame slot. You have to get lucky, for that to include a certain girl you are wanting. Otherwise you will have to pay the full price, to get a special desired girl which maybe at some time after the 4 hours window.

EihTooms
02-01-17, 05:52
The guidelines could potentially be made quite simple: e. G.

1. unsatisfactory, extremely poor.

2. poor, below average.

3. okay, average, just acceptable.

4. good, recommended.

5. super, excellent, highly recommended.
I think that kind of simplification makes it way too vague and subjective. Could be all about looks with no regard for performance. Could be all about performance with no regard for looks. Could be the Aunt Tilly factor again. It's anybody's guess.

I liked the blend of looks (really, accuracy to photos) and performance (did she refuse a service she listed on her profile?) the management posted in their blog and hope they repeat that mode in the update.

It doesn't have to be perfect and can't be. But it is an excellent starting point as long as it is in the finished customer's face at the moment of rating and it matches what the choosing (next) customer reads on the site for what those Star Ratings likely represent.

SmoociApp
02-01-17, 11:05
I been trying to book a lady Tip from this site?

But can not?

I was speaking to someone that was telling me she can go at 6 pm.

OK.

So I want to 6pm. Guess what happen I know you know?

Yes sorry Tip is not working now can you back at 9 pm WTF.

Why you don't just say she not working today all?

But you want to joking costumer?

Not happy.We already replied to Shane's angry emails to us (twice), but he doesn't understand our replies and seems to be very upset.

Shane contacted an escort agency (not Smooci) and they told him an Escort was available at 6 PM and when he returned at 6 PM she was not available. This agency has girls on Smooci and have a smooci link on their site, but it was direct contact between Shane and the the agency, and the issue has nothing to do with Smooci.

As already mentioned, Smooci is a live escort booking platform, you fill in your booking request (time, duration, etc.) and you will be given live results of companions who are available for you to book at that moment. Nowhere on our platform do we advertise schedules or future availability, we simply don't have that information, we only live check and show you the companions available to book at that moment. If you see a companion available and don't book her she may not be available when you return to search again, as she could be booked within minutes.

I'm not sure how else to explain this to him and there is little we can do to help him.

HotShaneHot
02-02-17, 01:33
We already replied to Shane's angry emails to us (twice), but he doesn't understand our replies and seems to be very upset.

Shane contacted an escort agency (not Smooci) and they told him an Escort was available at 6 PM and when he returned at 6 PM she was not available. This agency has girls on Smooci and have a smooci link on their site, but it was direct contact between Shane and the the agency, and the issue has nothing to do with Smooci.

As already mentioned, Smooci is a live escort booking platform, you fill in your booking request (time, duration, etc.) and you will be given live results of companions who are available for you to book at that moment. Nowhere on our platform do we advertise schedules or future availability, we simply don't have that information, we only live check and show you the companions available to book at that moment. If you see a companion available and don't book her she may not be available when you return to search again, as she could be booked within minutes.

I'm not sure how else to explain this to him and there is little we can do to help him.Shane did not send angry emails.

He was told that a lady will be available at 6 pm but this was not true.

Then he was told that she will be available 9 pm still not true.

Smooci.com put the word angry in for no reason same as here.

Syzygies
02-02-17, 04:41
Shane did not send angry emails.

He was told that a lady will be available at 6 pm but this was not true.

Then he was told that she will be available 9 pm still not true.

Smooci.com put the word angry in for no reason same as here.You can post about Escort agencies in the Escorts Thread. Smooci is simply not at all relevant to your problems with the Escort agency. So contacting them has no benefits.

HotShaneHot
02-02-17, 05:50
You can post about Escort agencies in the Escorts Thread. Smooci is simply not at all relevant to your problems with the Escort agency. So contacting them has no benefits.I am not post about Escorts agencies I am post Smooci in the Smooci thread OK.

Crocodilexp
02-02-17, 06:52
We already replied to Shane's angry emails to us (twice), but he doesn't understand our replies and seems to be very upset.If his reading comprehension is the same level as his writing, I would not expect much.

SmoociApp
02-02-17, 07:54
Shane did not send angry emails.

He was told that a lady will be available at 6 pm but this was not true.

Then he was told that she will be available 9 pm still not true.

Smooci.com put the word angry in for no reason same as here.I was referring to the complaint emails we received from Shane. A member of staff tried to explain to him but he couldn't understand.

The conversation Shane had regarding the availability of a girl was on a live chat on a Escort agency website which promotes smooci. It was not with Smooci or any of our team. As I said before, we don't give out schedules (we don't have schedules for the girls).

There is nothing we can do to help Shane. If he wants to book a specific escort at a specific time then he needs to contact the agency directly (which he did), but Smooci doesn't currently give out companion schedules, we only offer live booking.

Asian Rain
02-02-17, 14:02
Shane contacted an escort agency (not Smooci) and they told him an Escort was available at 6 PM and when he returned at 6 PM she was not available. This agency has girls on Smooci and have a smooci link on their site, but it was direct contact between Shane and the the agency, and the issue has nothing to do with Smooci.

I'm not sure how else to explain this to him and there is little we can do to help him.Pitfalls of running a business is that the clients are not always the most "communication capable". The fact that he was "speaking to someone" on the phone about timing details should make it clear he was not using the Smooci App. Brilliant. Good luck and enjoy, AsianRain.

Syzygies
02-02-17, 14:28
Putting two and two together and making a bit of a guess. I assume someone wanted a particular girl. Called the agency and they said she was available at 6 PM. Not clear whether this was less than 4 hours out at the time. Perhaps it was. However he does not immediately book with the agency. Is sneaky.

In order to try to get her cheaper, tries to book that time slot on Smoochi, but same desired girl is not showing as available on Smooci. And so on. Tries another time for 9 PM.

The cunning plan was foiled. The text read like was a little pissed off. Just speculation on my part that fits some of the data.

There is no guarantee a girl has indicated to Smooci that she wants to be available at the short notice and possibly for a reduced fee. I guess Smooci has functionality for the girl to register as available on Smooci and what time slots, or keeping Smooci up to date as to when she is already booked, to ensure doesn't get double booked, when the rolling 4 hour window moves across her current bookings. I am sure all the protocols have been worked out to best suit the girl and help her get extra bookings within the coming 4 hours, and to minimise stuff ups with double booked time. Anyway no way Smooci can guarantee a particular girl to be available when the customer happens to want her.

The assumption is the customer has a desired time, and then will choose a girl of a list of those known to be available.

If I want a particular girl, I will book for whenever she is available, and surely will miss out on the Smooci discount, by doing so, since will have to approach the girl or agency, directly via non Smooci App means. I could try every time slot on Smooci and see if I get lucky. LOL I assume the chances of that are not so great.

EihTooms
02-02-17, 19:57
If the situation has been explained to someone a couple of times then it should be clear to them by now how the smooci system works and why Tip wouldn't necessarily be bookable through smooci for the time he wanted.

However, it appears to me that this was not a matter of a customer trying to be sneaky or hatching a cunning plan to game the system. Instead, it appears to me he was simply following the recommended method for booking an escort as it is presented on the escort's original agency's website. Perhaps this is a glitch in the system that needs to be addressed.

I found a girl named Tip on New Bangkok Escort. It says she is available 24 hours. Her stated rate for a 2 hour session is 5,000 baht. Although I don't recall ever seeing this girl on smooci.com, it would not be out of the question to assume if she did appear on smooci.com her stated 2 hour rate might be closer to 3,750 baht. But that is actually somewhat beside the point.

More to the point I'm making is there is a button to click on her New Bangkok Escort profile page that says "Book Tip". However, right below that button is this recommendation, with a direct link to smooci's website:

"Book Tip on smooci.com for special smooci.com rates. ".

By spelling it out twice, that statement contains two links that take you directly to the first step page for booking an escort on smooci.com that most of us are familiar with by now.

So if a customer has chatted with the New Bangkok Escort folks on their own website at 5 pm and has been told Tip is available at 6 pm, why in the world wouldn't he and shouldn't he simply follow the clearly stated and more than inviting recommendation to get a "special rate" for Tip by clicking on the link for smooci.com and booking her for 6 pm there? Doesn't seem like a sneaky, cunning plan to me. Seems like a customer is simply following the recommendation on the website and right there on her profile page.

I do see this as a bit of a glitch in the system. If Tip can not be booked through smooci for any time during the next 4 hours when it has been communicated and now known that she IS available for booking during that time, why is there a strong and inviting recommendation on her profile page with two links to smooci.com to go there to book her and enjoy a "special rate"?

Is there any way for New Bangkok Escort to drop that smooci booking recommendation for a girl who is not submitting herself on smooci for the next 4 hours? Or maybe the wording ought to be changed so as not to suggest this particular girl CAN be booked through smooci for the next 4 hours but only that she MIGHT be available for booking through smooci for the next 4 hours?

Crazy4Thai
02-03-17, 01:48
I was referring to the complaint emails we received from Shane. A member of staff tried to explain to him but he couldn't understand.

The conversation Shane had regarding the availability of a girl was on a live chat on a Escort agency website which promotes smooci. It was not with Smooci or any of our team. As I said before, we don't give out schedules (we don't have schedules for the girls).

There is nothing we can do to help Shane. If he wants to book a specific escort at a specific time then he needs to contact the agency directly (which he did), but Smooci doesn't currently give out companion schedules, we only offer live booking.I have been on the Smooci site twice browsing for possibilities. I am impressed by what I see and plan to use it when I get a chance. Part of the interface has me choose a time slot even before I am looking at the ladies. Based on what is written above, is this a feature not fully implemented yet? Choosing the time of the date.

C4 T.

Mosquito2002
02-03-17, 03:18
So, when is this upgrade happening.

Syzygies
02-03-17, 03:58
I have been on the Smooci site twice browsing for possibilities. I am impressed by what I see and plan to use it when I get a chance. Part of the interface has me choose a time slot even before I am looking at the ladies. Based on what is written above, is this a feature not fully implemented yet? Choosing the time of the date.

C4 T.No, they make it quite clear. You pick the time first (in next 4 hours) when you want a girl, then you pick from available girls. Not the reverse. If they changed from that, they would take over the full functionality of all the Escort companies, which would not go down well, or just become another competing Escort Agency.

Crazy4Thai
02-03-17, 06:19
No, they make it quite clear. You pick the time first (in next 4 hours) when you want a girl, then you pick from available girls. Not the reverse. If they changed from that, they would take over the full functionality of all the Escort companies, which would not go down well, or just become another competing Escort Agency.Read it again.

"Part of the interface has me choose a time slot EVEN BEFORE I am looking at the ladies". Is what I wrote. So somehow you did not understand me.

I'm not real clear on Smooci's statement about "Nowhere on our platform do we advertise schedules or future availability, we simply don't have that information, we only live check and show you the companions available to book at that moment. " Does it mean that right now I see that Noi is available and I want her 3 hours from now. She is available right now but in 3 hours Smooci does not know? Or does it mean they DO know for a 4 hour window?

Syzygies
02-03-17, 12:24
I'm not real clear on Smooci's statement about "Nowhere on our platform do we advertise schedules or future availability, we simply don't have that information, we only live check and show you the companions available to book at that moment. " Does it mean that right now I see that Noi is available and I want her 3 hours from now. She is available right now but in 3 hours Smooci does not know? Or does it mean they DO know for a 4 hour window?I will try again. Smooci is not addressing your requirement for wanting Noi in 3 hours time, directly.

If Smooci says Noi is available right now, there is no function to select her and ask for all her available times, as I see it. You have to try a future time slot and see if she comes up or not.

You can specify to Smooci that you want a girl at a time 3 hours from now. Then Smooci will offer you girls that they know are available, maybe Noi if you get lucky, maybe not. It is geared towards customers not looking for a particular girl. It is their business what they know about Noi, but they won't tell you which time slot she is available.

If you ask for a girl in 3 hours time, and they offer you Noi, that implies they know she is available. Nowhere do they guarantee to always know though. When they don't know, they will not offer the girl. This is all somewhat obvious, arising from the simple procedure. Select a time slot first, and then select a girl that they happen to offer in that time slot.

EihTooms
02-03-17, 13:07
I'm not real clear on Smooci's statement about "Nowhere on our platform do we advertise schedules or future availability, we simply don't have that information, we only live check and show you the companions available to book at that moment. " Does it mean that right now I see that Noi is available and I want her 3 hours from now. She is available right now but in 3 hours Smooci does not know? Or does it mean they DO know for a 4 hour window?It is 7:07PM in Bangkok right now. On the smooci site the page that says, "I would like to meet at..." can be moved three hours ahead to 10 PM. It then shows there are 65 females available for booking through smooci at 10 PM, three hours from now, for a 1 hour session, which is the amount of time I entered. I don't see Noi in that group. If booking a girl through smooci for a 1 hour session three hours from now is important to you, you'll have to choose another girl.

Malee looks interesting, particularly since her pics seem quite natural and unshopped. And she claims to do BBBJ+CIM, an important factor for me. lol. However, she has yet to register a Star rating. Does that mean she will be particularly conscientious about pleasing her customers until she gets those first three ratings and can start off with a high average? hmm. Or does it mean something more negative and unpleasant than that? haha. Only one way to find out, I suppose. But I've already got a date for tonight and 10pm is likely to be at or near a high point for it. ;)

AquaDreams
02-03-17, 20:11
Malee looks interesting, particularly since her pics seem quite natural and unshopped. And she claims to do BBBJ+CIM, an important factor for me. lol. However, she has yet to register a Star rating. Does that mean she will be particularly conscientious about pleasing her customers until she gets those first three ratings and can start off with a high average? hmm. Or does it mean something more negative and unpleasant than that? haha. Only one way to find out, I suppose.Malee is high on my list of possibles for that reason, untouched photos. I don't understand why some of these agencies or oilies want their women looking Americanized (whiting of the skin and facial altering) or "glossed out" to look younger. I want a Thai lady, and if dark skinned all the better. Minor flaws are attractive, they give a woman an edge. Joey Ramone was asked by Interview Magazine a long while back "what do you look for in a woman?" His reply "flaws. " That always stuck with me. A lot of these Pshop jobs are bordering on stupid. That's why I like the MITU site. Daily photos when the women arrive, 2 pics each. I booked one of the Nohand ladies to start of my visit, but Katoha looks intriguing, a very unique face, she's number 1 in popularity there now, might try her later on in my stay.

Crazy4Thai
02-04-17, 02:19
I will try again. As previously stated I have been on the website twice checking it out. I do understand the interface and the intent. 1) pick a time 2) pick a woman. It seems silly to me that that is not understood from what I've written. Perhaps the issue is again about English as a 2nd language. Mostly this forum has devolved into the theory of mongering. I'll post a report when I've tried it.

Syzygies
02-04-17, 03:19
I'm not real clear on Smooci's statement about "Nowhere on our platform do we advertise schedules or future availability, we simply don't have that information, we only live check and show you the companions available to book at that moment. " Does it mean that right now I see that Noi is available and I want her 3 hours from now. She is available right now but in 3 hours Smooci does not know? Or does it mean they DO know for a 4 hour window?Answering your question as directly as I can, in my opinion. Noi being available right now does not imply anything at all about what they know about Noi for 3 hours time. If they do not offer Noi in 3 hours, we can assume they that either know she is already booked, or do not know her availability status. What they know, but don't tell you, is their business, since they stated they are not into providing the girl's schedule to anyone who wants it.

Just total speculation now. We could assume certain girls are registered for a range of times to Smooci, which has control of the girl bookings for the next 4 hours window. If the girl gets a booking outside the 4 hours, Smooci would need to be notified before that is less than 4 hours away, so that when the rolling 4 hours window overlaps that booking, the girl does not get double booked. The mechanisms would have been carefully planned and designed. There would need to be a mechanism for Smooci to become aware of girl availability when a new hour or time period moves into the 4 hour window, before they could offer that girl. If they get no notification the girl is available for that new period moving into the 4 hour window, they would not be able to offer her. Maybe just before each new hour, the agencies would send Smooci a list of girls not booked for the 4 hour mark, or maybe the girls themselves could notify of their availability for 3 to 4 hours out when Smoochi App asks them. If she does not answer due to being busy, the assumption would have to be she is not available (until notified otherwise). Possibly a combined method to ensure every girl offered is truly available.

Crazy4Thai
02-04-17, 04:50
Answering your question as directly as I can, in my opinion. Noi being available right now does not imply anything at all about what they know about Noi for 3 hours time. If they do not offer Noi in 3 hours, we can assume they that either know she is already booked, or do not know her availability status. What they know, but don't tell you, is their business, since they stated they are not into providing the girl's schedule to anyone who wants it.OK, fine that you have an interpretation. Doesn't this beg the question as to why they offer a 4 hour window on the interface if they "cannot predict the future" 4 hours out? That is the heart of my question. If they are not offering the one I want 4 hours from now I might as well not book until I'm ready for a companion. And just maybe, as I speculate too, this speaks to the cause of Shane's disappointment.


Just total speculation now. We could assume certain girls are registered for a range of times to Smooci, which has control of the girl bookings for the next 4 hours window. If the girl gets a booking outside the 4 hours, Smooci would need to be notified before that is less than 4 hours away, so that when the rolling 4 hours window overlaps that booking, the girl does not get double booked. The mechanisms would have been carefully planned and designed. There would need to be a mechanism for Smooci to become aware of girl availability when a new hour or time period moves into the 4 hour window, before they could offer that girl. If they get no notification the girl is available for that new period moving into the 4 hour window, they would not be able to offer her. Maybe just before each new hour, the agencies would send Smooci a list of girls not booked for the 4 hour mark, or maybe the girls themselves could notify of their availability for 3 to 4 hours out when Smoochi App asks them. If she does not answer due to being busy, the assumption would have to be she is not available (until notified otherwise). Possibly a combined method to ensure every girl offered is truly available.Speculation indeed. Where's Smooci on this question?

Sunlover2
02-04-17, 12:59
OK, fine that you have an interpretation. Doesn't this beg the question as to why they offer a 4 hour window on the interface if they "cannot predict the future" 4 hours out? That is the heart of my question.The ladies are not employed by Smooci. It is a web based platform for people to meet. The ladies themselves enter their own availability data.

The premise of your position seems to be that P4 P woman are 100% reliable. LOL for sure. Would you blame the ThaiFriendly or Craigslist websites if a lady flakes out? There are hundreds of reasons this could happen.

SL.

SmoociApp
02-04-17, 19:13
The ladies are not employed by Smooci. It is a web based platform for people to meet. The ladies themselves enter their own availability data.

The premise of your position seems to be that P4 P woman are 100% reliable. LOL for sure. Would you blame the ThaiFriendly or Craigslist websites if a lady flakes out? There are hundreds of reasons this could happen.

SL.Thank you, well put.

We get a lot of people contacting us thinking that we are an escort agency. As Sunlover has stated, we do not employ any escorts, we are simply a platform for escorts and agencies to find clients and vice versa.

We do try to support the users and companions as best we can, but certain issues between a user and companion are out of our control. Ultimately we cannot control the availability, price, and performance of a companion, but we are trying to set up a new style of escort booking platform which at least encourages and influences companions and agencies to adjust their prices and levels of service in a positive way, and gives the user a more informed choice and better control over their experience.

I'll post more regarding the confusion over availability / schedules.

SmoociApp
02-04-17, 19:31
Regarding the confusion around Shane's comments and the follow up questions:

Shane simply contacted an agency regarding one of their Escorts (who is also sometimes available on Smooci), and asked at what times she would be available. He did not contact Smooci for this info. They told him she was available at 6 pm and when he went to book her close to 6 pm she wasn't available. He asked them again and they said she'd be available at 9 pm, and when he want to book she wasn't available again. Shane was contacting the agency directly to ask for her schedules, but he sent his complaint emails to Smooci and has now complained on the Smooci thread.

There was little we could do to help Shane and he didn't / doesn't seem to understand that Smooci and the escort agency are two different companies. We are a platform the agency uses to get bookings, but Smooci is not the agency, so when contacting the agency directly it is between the client and agency only.

Regarding bookings and schedules

Smooci is a live escort booking platform. You can book companions up to 4 hours in advance. You fill in your booking request (time, duration, etc), and we will provide you with live search results showing you which companions are available for your requested time and duration at that moment. If you try again 2 minutes later requesting the same time and duration you may get slightly different results with some companions / agencies changing their availability or taking bookings.

Agencies / companions control their availability through our system, and they can switch their availability on and off freely. They can input future times they will be available / unavailable but they can change this at any moment (effectively the system needs to knowing the live availability of a companion over the next 28 hours. Max 4 hours in advance and max booking of 24 hours). Our system live checks availability based on this info, and gives a user matching results which are very accurate. The only inaccuracies come when a companion changes their availability while a user is viewing their profile or filling in the confirmation details (This is less than 5% of the time and we are improving out system to cut this down even further).

A little further confusion has arisen regarding schedules and future availability. What we mean't regarding schedules / availability is that outside of live search results we cannot currently give out or advertise the schedule or availability of any companions, and if an agency tells you the schedule or availability of a companion there are still no guarantee she will be available on Smooci at any specific time.

SmoociApp
02-04-17, 19:34
Regarding expansion

We can't give exact dates on where / when we will be expanding. At the moment we are building towards launching in 2 other countries, but we are also building a solid Bangkok team who will also be looking at the possibility to expand locally to other Thai resorts such as Pattaya and Phuket.

Right now we can't make any promises or put out any dates, but we are working around the clock to make smooci the best it can be and get it out to other major cities. We have one major update which will be an app for independent Escorts to work on our platform, and as soon as this is ready we will be in a position to push forward with our expansion plans. Again, we can't make a promise on when this will be but we are trying hard to have it completed within the next 2-3 months.

Crazy4Thai
02-05-17, 01:41
The ladies are not employed by Smooci. It is a web based platform for people to meet. The ladies themselves enter their own availability data.

The premise of your position seems to be that P4 P woman are 100% reliable. LOL for sure. Would you blame the ThaiFriendly or Craigslist websites if a lady flakes out? There are hundreds of reasons this could happen.

SL.You see it as a position while I see it as an inquiry. I'm inquiring about the intent of the time slot so that I can adjust my expectations accordingly. Thanks Smooci for your clarification.

Regnad
02-09-17, 10:41
Well, gang, I took one for the team. It looked just too good to be true, and as is most often the case.

The good: the interface and idea are fabulous. I booked, got confirmation, got notification that she was on her way, with a link to let me follow her en route. She was right on time.

The less than good: she looked nothing like her pictures. Actually, she looked less than nothing like her pictures. The pictures were either of a different girl or the dude who photoshopped her a brand new face should the the 2017 Nobel Prize for Photoshopping. Less than good number two was the missing acronyms: DFK, nope. BBBJ, yep. CIM, nope.

Terribly sorry to be the bearer of bad news. C'est la vie.

Regnad
02-09-17, 10:51
After posting, I scanned the entire thread to see if I'm the only one with a bad experience. (Note: scanned. I did not read carefully.).

Now I'm wondering who is to blame for the bait and switch. The girl herself? The listing agency? Smooci?

I'd like to think it was the agency as the whole concept is very fabulous. That said, if this is to work, it is incumbent upon Smooci, whom we as clients are trusting, to verify that the agencies (or independents if they're going to work with indies as well) are using reasonably accurate pictures of the girls.

I'd certainly like to use Smooci again, but at this point the trust factor is lacking.

EihTooms
02-09-17, 12:10
After posting, I scanned the entire thread to see if I'm the only one with a bad experience. (Note: scanned. I did not read carefully.).

Now I'm wondering who is to blame for the bait and switch. The girl herself? The listing agency? Smooci?

I'd like to think it was the agency as the whole concept is very fabulous. That said, if this is to work, it is incumbent upon Smooci, whom we as clients are trusting, to verify that the agencies (or independents if they're going to work with indies as well) are using reasonably accurate pictures of the girls.

I'd certainly like to use Smooci again, but at this point the trust factor is lacking.You didn't mention what her Star Rating was when you booked her, if that had any influence on your choosing her and what Star Rating you gave her afterwards. Sounds to me like it would have been a 1 Star Rating for you, the poorest rating you can give. Was it? A zero Star Rating, not bothering to submit a Star Rating at all, isn't factored into the average for a girl and therefore does not count against her in any way. As of yet, that is.

Of course, if you chose her based on a 4+ Star Rating, then, yeah, I would say that, based on your review, something needs to be done about making customers aware of those Star Rating Guidelines. And fast. But if you chose her when she had no Star Rating yet or despite the fact that she only had 2.9 Star Rating or something like that, well, that isn't much of a slam against smooci's Star Rating system, wouldn't you say?

Regnad
02-09-17, 16:16
But if you chose her when she had no Star Rating yet or despite the fact that she only had 2.9 Star Rating or something like that, well, that isn't much of a slam against smooci's Star Rating system, wouldn't you say?No, it's not a slam against their star rating system, but it's a slam against their not vetting the girls whose bookings they take. If they're going to be successful, we have to have faith that the girl in the pictures is the girl coming to your place. They absolutely should know that they're not peddling bait and switch before taking a listing.

I don't recall her star rating. I don't put any faith in them anyway, considering that you don't know how many ratings any girl has. Most guys don't post ratings.

Member #4698
02-09-17, 16:52
Hey Regnad, sorry to hear about your experience using Smooci. I have never used an escort service so I don't have these kind of problems like photoshopped girls or bad in the room girls, well very, very rarely on the latter. 555. I do have one question though; if the girl you requested failed to show up or was not in the same condition as advertised on the web site, why did you let her into your room? A polite no thanks, here is some taxi money for your trouble would have gotten rid of the girl. 2nd; who is the girl in question? Her bad service/bad atitude should be duly noted.

SmoociApp
02-09-17, 18:04
After posting, I scanned the entire thread to see if I'm the only one with a bad experience. (Note: scanned. I did not read carefully.).

Now I'm wondering who is to blame for the bait and switch. The girl herself? The listing agency? Smooci?

I'd like to think it was the agency as the whole concept is very fabulous. That said, if this is to work, it is incumbent upon Smooci, whom we as clients are trusting, to verify that the agencies (or independents if they're going to work with indies as well) are using reasonably accurate pictures of the girls.

I'd certainly like to use Smooci again, but at this point the trust factor is lacking.Hi Regnad,

Genuinely sorry to hear that you had a bad experience.

We do hope that you will take the time to give the companion the rating and comments to reflect the experience you had. While we do vet agencies and companions before allowing them on to our platform, it's very difficult for us to verify them in depth, and user ratings and feedback is our most effective way to verify the companions and agencies we allow to work through our site.

We are not an escort agency and we don't employ any escorts. However, we are trying to create a platform which improves the experience and gives the user a more informed choice and more control over their experience, while also creating a level playing field for all companions (from Escorts at big agencies to independents working alone) rewarding those who offer genuinely good services. We can't guarantee that every booking will be an amazing experience, but we are trying to lessen the chance of you having a bad experience and allow you to share an inform others after having a bad (or good) experience.

Unlike when booking from an agency directly, or connecting through a middleman site (such as craigslist or back page), if a companion gives false or misleading information, or gives the user a bad experience, the user can give her a low rating and comment on what happened. This will immediately effect the companions ability to get further bookings; not only will it lower the companions average rating, but consistent low scores will be flagged to our team and all comments read. If there are common complaints we will give a specific warning to the companion / agency (I. E. If users are complain the pictures are misleading we will ask them to change the pictures), and if the low ratings continue the companion will be warned and then banned at the next stage. The performance of the companions is also reflected on the agencies, and if an agency has several companions with low average ratings, and common complaints, they will also be warned and then banned if poor performance continues.

We are not saying this is a flawless system and we aren't claiming it will revolutionize the industry, but we are working hard to improve the experience, and we have already seen Bangkok escort prices drop considerably and the level of service improve (girls with 4-5 stars are getting a lot more bookings, while those with 1-2 stars are seeing a definite drop in the amount of bookings they get). We do rely on users taking the time to give honest ratings and feedback in order for the platform to work most effectively.

We are a very young platform and we still have a lot of features and functions we are working on behind the scenes, all of which we hope will improve the experience. We've mentioned photoshopping on here before, and it's definitely something on our priority list (we already have a few ideas to start tackling it in the near future).

EihTooms
02-09-17, 23:59
No, it's not a slam against their star rating system, but it's a slam against their not vetting the girls whose bookings they take. If they're going to be successful, we have to have faith that the girl in the pictures is the girl coming to your place. They absolutely should know that they're not peddling bait and switch before taking a listing.

I don't recall her star rating. I don't put any faith in them anyway, considering that you don't know how many ratings any girl has. Most guys don't post ratings.I see on another site you revealed the girl's name. Don't know if you have or will here, but no matter. I happen to be familiar with that particular girl's usual Star Rating trend and she has always had a noticeably lower Star Rating than most of the other girls on the smooci site with a Star Rating. LOL. The only reason I know that is because somewhere on one of these escort or Bangkok threads where the topic of smooci came up, I used her low Star Rating as an example of something, but don't remember exactly what it was right now. She also has a somewhat memorable or should probably say easy to remember name. Because of that, I happen to notice her ratings any time I have visited smooci's site and seen her pic and profile come up. And they have remained lower than most of the other girls who have Star Ratings.

Apparently, you could have and should have put more faith in the fact that she had a lower rating than most before booking. Her not providing the DFK or CIM services she most certainly knew are stated on her profile would have earned her, imo, a 1 Star Rating even aside from the fact that her pics did not remotely represent the reality. But if you don't have faith in the Star Rating system that I submit could easily have helped you avoid booking her in the first place and didn't bother to give her the lowest rating possible (1 Star) so as to better inform and forewarn her next customers as well as further reward the escorts who ARE earning consistently higher ratings, then you are not taking advantage of a unique opportunity provided by smooci to be better informed yourself and to better inform everyone else with an immediate feedback for all to see.

Regnad
02-10-17, 02:38
I see on another site you revealed the girl's name. Don't know if you have or will here, but no matter. I didn't reveal her name (Beer) here because no one asked.

You make good points vis a vis the rating system. One of my problems with the rating system is that, without knowing how many ratings there are, the numbers are worthless. One guy sees a girl and she's fabulous, her gives her a five. Another guy sees her, the date goes awry for some reason not of her doing, and he give her a one. She now has a 2. 5 star rating. How are we to know there are only two ratings? Also, I didn't rate her initially because I don't know who is at fault for the phony pictures, her or the agency.

As for my not turning her away, while I didn't find her particularly attractive, she wasn't a total turnoff either and it was late in the evening and you know how that goes. It was not a total waste of time, but not what I was hoping for either.

BTW, I got quite a surprise the next night. A friend and I decided to give a Soapy massage a whirl, though with very modest expectations. The girl was exceptionally pretty and quite a bit of fun to romp with. Her name is Bo and the establishment is Merci.

EihTooms
02-10-17, 10:21
I didn't reveal her name (Beer) here because no one asked.

You make good points vis a vis the rating system. One of my problems with the rating system is that, without knowing how many ratings there are, the numbers are worthless. One guy sees a girl and she's fabulous, her gives her a five. Another guy sees her, the date goes awry for some reason not of her doing, and he give her a one. She now has a 2. 5 star rating. How are we to know there are only two ratings? Also, I didn't rate her initially because I don't know who is at fault for the phony pictures, her or the agency.According to the explanation behind their website's homepage Blog option, smooci waits until a girl has gotten three ratings before posting her average. I can certainly see why you wouldn't know that, though. This is another argument for why those Star Rating Guidelines and perhaps a few notes of explanation for how they are calculated, all of which now sits safely hidden and no doubt largely unseen behind that Blog button, should definitely be right smack in the customer's face on the very same email asking him to give the girl / experience a Star Rating.

IMO, simply putting a link to that Blog page on the followup email isn't enough. It needs to be right there in his face under the words, "Would you like to rate your experience with Brunhilde?" on the very same email so at first glance the guy will at least be made aware that, for instance, a 1 Star Rating is the poorest rating you can give a girl / experience, not a "zero" rating because he was so disappointed in what occurred he didn't even want to give it one Star.

That kind of "rating", none at all because the customer was so underwhelmed, won't be factored in or count against her/the experience although the customer is very likely to conclude such a thing without those Guidelines right before his eyes when he is asked to submit a rating. Without that being made perfectly clear at the moment of rating, it is likely some girls are getting dozens of those invisible "zero" ratings before they finally gather three decent higher Star Ratings from newbies who were over the moon thrilled just to be alone in the same room with a naked lady for the first time in their lives.

Regnad
02-11-17, 03:17
According to the explanation behind their website's homepage Blog option, smooci waits until a girl has gotten three ratings before posting her average. I can certainly see why you wouldn't know that, though.What you also may not know if you haven't actually used their service is that you are offered the opportunity to add comments to the Star Rating. Why aren't these comments shared with other potential customers? I'd feel much more comfortable giving a girl a less than complimentary rating if also given a place to explain to others my rational for speaking ill of my experience.

AquaDreams
02-11-17, 03:58
What you also may not know if you haven't actually used their service is that you are offered the opportunity to add comments to the Star Rating. Why aren't these comments shared with other potential customers? I'd feel much more comfortable giving a girl a less than complimentary rating if also given a place to explain to others my rational for speaking ill of my experience.Bravo so far, but your service definitely needs a few enhancements:

1) A link button to all customer reviews, every word and the rating. Potential customers need to see these before placing a booking.

2) IMO, Absolute Angels is right on in providing breast info: Natural or Silicon Enhanced. Every lady should have this accurate info on their profile page. Shaved or unshaved. Possibly helpful as well.

3) Does escort provide aroma oil as well as standard oil? The more info or services these lovely ladies provide the more money you both make.

Cheers.

EihTooms
02-11-17, 05:19
What you also may not know if you haven't actually used their service is that you are offered the opportunity to add comments to the Star Rating. Why aren't these comments shared with other potential customers? I'd feel much more comfortable giving a girl a less than complimentary rating if also given a place to explain to others my rational for speaking ill of my experience.I do know about that. And I think I read where smooci might start including comments on the profiles, but not sure about that.

However, it could contribute to gradually shifting away from their, imo, rather well-stated Star Rating Guidelines into something less objective and sloppy like, "Wow!" or "Ugh!" LOL. And it would also corner them into making editorial decisions about whether or not to reveal and post those particularly horrific comments from guys who really felt ripped off. I can imagine them having to field a slew of back and forth accusations of censorship or whatever from some of the nuttier types out there. There are plenty of Escort Agencies that do post as many glowing comments about their girls as they can fit under the girls' profiles, rarely if ever seem to find the space to post the truly negative comments which I am sure have been sent. Recognizing that smooci is not one of those Escort Agencies, they offer something more "democratic" than those agencies, the opportunity to have the negative reviews actually count and be noticed.

Crazy4Thai
02-11-17, 10:45
I do know about that. And I think I read where smooci might start including comments on the profiles, but not sure about that.

However, it could contribute to gradually shifting away from their, imo, rather well-stated Star Rating Guidelines into something less objective and sloppy like, "Wow!" or "Ugh!" LOL. And it would also corner them into making editorial decisions about whether or not to reveal and post those particularly horrific comments from guys who really felt ripped off. I can imagine them having to field a slew of back and forth accusations of censorship or whatever from some of the nuttier types out there. There are plenty of Escort Agencies that do post as many glowing comments about their girls as they can fit under the girls' profiles, rarely if ever seem to find the space to post the truly negative comments which I am sure have been sent. Recognizing that smooci is not one of those Escort Agencies, they offer something more "democratic" than those agencies, the opportunity to have the negative reviews actually count and be noticed.No disrespect intended. I do not see written review comments as being less objective than star ratings. Many places on the web have both. In fact comments are the norm when I think of Amazon, Tripadvisor, or Google Reviews. In fact a site with a good review system could be called "Wh? ReAdvisor". LOL. Maybe they prefer the mystery of a star rating that then can be left open to interpretation so nobody is going "Eeewww, never mind".

SmoociApp
02-11-17, 12:53
Regarding ratings and written reviews

We are keen to eventually have the written reviews available for users to see, but we are not in a position to do that at the moment. While we would certainly not hide any negative comments, we do need to have a moderation system in place to avoid such things as the release of personal information or unjustified attacks, and we will probably need an appeal system should a companion feel the information is false. At the moment we have a lot going on as we introduce other important features and functions (most of which is boring tech improvements).

The comments do already have a positive effect. We review the negative comments and pass on common complaints to companions who getting low average ratings, and warn them and eventually ban them if common complaints continue.

While the average star rating isn't perfect, it is having a notable positive effect (companions with high ratings are getting a lot more bookings than companions with low ratings, regardless of looks or price), and the vast majority of users are using the ratings system correctly, with those giving high praise to a companion typically voting 4 or 5, and those criticizing a companion giving a 1 or 2.

Today we have updated the ratings page, so the hover-over text is more accurate (a 3 is now 'just OK' and added a link encouraging users to read our ratings guide. Overall we are happy with the ratings system and it seems to be working, with the average rating being a good reflection of how a companion has performed.

Regarding number of ratings

We have taken note of the requests for the number of ratings to be shown, and we agree that this would be more helpful for the user. However, while we are trying to give more control and power to the client, we also have to give support to the companions and agencies, especially those who perform well and offer good service. We regularly request feedback from the companions / agencies and we've found that most of the high performing companions are against the idea of having the number of reviews shown as they feel having a very high number of ratings could have a negative effect, regardless of the actual score (I. E. A girl with an average rating over 4.5 but with it showing that she has had over 100 ratings may get less bookings due to the number of bookings she has had), and we agree with that also.

Taking both arguments on board we are toying with the idea of adding number of reviews but capping it at a certain figure (I. E. Any number greater than 30 would be 30+).

WarmStone25
02-11-17, 16:51
The star rating system is not a mystery if people follow the guide in the Smooci BLOG. It would appear that you can choose a rating between the whole numbers 1 to 5, inclusive.

What is not explained is how an escort can get ratings of 3. 9 or 4. 3 or 2. 5. Is there a Smooci algorithm being applied here? What proportion of the overall score is due the customer rating?

SmoociApp
02-11-17, 19:23
The star rating system is not a mystery if people follow the guide in the Smooci BLOG. It would appear that you can choose a rating between the whole numbers 1 to 5, inclusive.

What is not explained is how an escort can get ratings of 3. 9 or 4. 3 or 2. 5. Is there a Smooci algorithm being applied here? What proportion of the overall score is due the customer rating?There is no complicated algorithm in place, the rating score shown on a companions profile is simply the average score given to them, shown after the third rating is given. For example if 4 users rated their experience a 4 and 1 user rated the experience a 5, then the average score shown would be 4. 2 (4+4+4+4+5 /5 = 4.2).

EihTooms
02-12-17, 02:24
No disrespect intended. I do not see written review comments as being less objective than star ratings. Many places on the web have both. In fact comments are the norm when I think of Amazon, Tripadvisor, or Google Reviews. In fact a site with a good review system could be called "Wh? ReAdvisor". LOL. Maybe they prefer the mystery of a star rating that then can be left open to interpretation so nobody is going "Eeewww, never mind".I don't have a strong objection to having both. But the reason I believe the Star Rating Guidelines as presented on smooci are less subjective is because they include quite specific, tangible assessments of services provided, such as, "refused to give the services booked for no acceptable reason. " That is an objective criteria and assessment.

How many Field Reports have you read where the guy says something like, "There was no BBBJ as I expected, she wanted it covered (CBJ) and she wouldn't DFK. But I thought the GFE was wonderful! I had a great time. Highly recommended!" And if that guy had booked this girl through smooci, the girl had stated BBBJ, CIM and DFK on her profile, but he either never read or chose to ignore their Guidelines for what earns a 4 vs a 1 Star Rating, he probably would have given her a 5 Star Rating for reasons I cannot fathom but apparently mean a lot to him.

Excuse me, but whatever it was about the chemistry between that particular fellow and the girl in that particular 2 hour period means virtually zero to me or the next customer. However, whether she actually delivered the services promised does mean something to me and the next guy. I'll figure out my own chemistry with the girl when I meet her.

To use your Tripadviser comparison, it would be like my not getting the mashed potatoes I ordered and it turns out "chicken" in this restaurant means extruded playdoh, but, hey, there was just something about the place I liked, so 5 Stars from me! True, if I am including my comments along with the Star Rating, someone who cares very much about getting the mashed potatoes he ordered and not eating extruded playdoh instead of actual chicken digging in to read my comment would know something more about why this restaurant has an overall 4.7 Star Rating instead of a 3.5 Star Rating. But only if they dig deeper to read all the comments and get to mine.

Then the problem arises when subsequent Raters read my "just something about the place I liked" reasoning behind giving them a 5 Star Rating, think that is as valid as the Guidelines stated on the site itself and off we go down the road toward a, imo, way too subjective and largely useless rating system for a P4P experience.

The smooci Star Rating Guidelines version of this would likely narrow it down to something a bit more subjective and, imo, useful like, "didn't get the mashed potatoes you ordered and the chicken wasn't really chicken but playdoh" - 1 Star

EihTooms
02-12-17, 02:36
Regarding ratings and written reviews

We are keen to eventually have the written reviews available for users to see, but we are not in a position to do that at the moment. While we would certainly not hide any negative comments, we do need to have a moderation system in place to avoid such things as the release of personal information or unjustified attacks, and we will probably need an appeal system should a companion feel the information is false. At the moment we have a lot going on as we introduce other important features and functions (most of which is boring tech improvements).

The comments do already have a positive effect. We review the negative comments and pass on common complaints to companions who getting low average ratings, and warn them and eventually ban them if common complaints continue.

While the average star rating isn't perfect, it is having a notable positive effect (companions with high ratings are getting a lot more bookings than companions with low ratings, regardless of looks or price), and the vast majority of users are using the ratings system correctly, with those giving high praise to a companion typically voting 4 or 5, and those criticizing a companion giving a 1 or 2.

Today we have updated the ratings page, so the hover-over text is more accurate (a 3 is now 'just OK' and added a link encouraging users to read our ratings guide. Overall we are happy with the ratings system and it seems to be working, with the average rating being a good reflection of how a companion has performed.

Regarding number of ratings

We have taken note of the requests for the number of ratings to be shown, and we agree that this would be more helpful for the user. However, while we are trying to give more control and power to the client, we also have to give support to the companions and agencies, especially those who perform well and offer good service. We regularly request feedback from the companions / agencies and we've found that most of the high performing companions are against the idea of having the number of reviews shown as they feel having a very high number of ratings could have a negative effect, regardless of the actual score (I. E. A girl with an average rating over 4.5 but with it showing that she has had over 100 ratings may get less bookings due to the number of bookings she has had), and we agree with that also.

Taking both arguments on board we are toying with the idea of adding number of reviews but capping it at a certain figure (I. E. Any number greater than 30 would be 30+).As I wrote my previous post about how much more subjective and valuable than the usual alternative is your inclusion of terms like, "refused to give the services booked for no acceptable reason" in your Star Rating Guidelines for what ought to earn a girl / experience a poor 1 or 2 Star Rating, it occurred to me how great it would be to balance that out on the other side of the Guidelines with something about "delivered or exceeded all the promised services with a good attitude" for that coveted 5 Star Rating. You already include the word "delivered", but I love that word "exceeded", which provides a nice positive bookend match for the way a 1 Star Rating is earned.

Just a suggestion.

EihTooms
02-12-17, 03:33
The smooci Star Rating Guidelines version of this would likely narrow it down to something a bit more subjective and, imo, useful like, "didn't get the mashed potatoes you ordered and the chicken wasn't really chicken but playdoh" - 1 StarCorrection to my mis-type. What I meant to say was "a bit more objective" assessment, not "subjective". Sorry.

JayDee006
02-12-17, 06:26
I used Smooci the first time a few nights back and I think the service is great.

I made my booking, within about 5 minutes the agency called me to confirm my booking. There was some issue with my phone receiving the confirmation so they had to try a different way, after a few phone calls and different people trying, they asked me to try and make the booking again which I did, the sms confirmation still didn't work so they then got someone to call my mobile directly to confirm it was me.

The whole process was handled very professionally and they explained everything clearly. Told me I wouldn't get the normal phone confirmation but confirmed that my booking was confirmed and the girl was on her way.

I haven't been able to do a review, I guess for this reason unfortunately as I would like to give her a good rating.

The whole system seems really good to me and I will use it again in the future if I am in BKK or somewhere that has it. As a first timer who wasn't to sure or confident about meeting a girl in a bar or on the street, it made things really straight forward for me.



SmoociApp
02-12-17, 20:00
I used Smooci the first time a few nights back and I think the service is great.

I made my booking, within about 5 minutes the agency called me to confirm my booking. There was some issue with my phone receiving the confirmation so they had to try a different way, after a few phone calls and different people trying, they asked me to try and make the booking again which I did, the sms confirmation still didn't work so they then got someone to call my mobile directly to confirm it was me.

The whole process was handled very professionally and they explained everything clearly. Told me I wouldn't get the normal phone confirmation but confirmed that my booking was confirmed and the girl was on her way.

I haven't been able to do a review, I guess for this reason unfortunately as I would like to give her a good rating.

The whole system seems really good to me and I will use it again in the future if I am in BKK or somewhere that has it. As a first timer who wasn't to sure or confident about meeting a girl in a bar or on the street, it made things really straight forward for me.Thanks for yoru kind words Jaydee.

We've just implemented the SMS confirmation system to make things easier, but expereinced some teething problems at the start.

Could you please email us and let us know your booking details and that you weren't able to give a rating and review. I'll email you back with a link to give your rating / review. Our email address is at the bottom of our homepage.

Regnad
02-13-17, 08:23
I don't have a strong objection to having both. But the reason I believe the Star Rating Guidelines as presented on smooci are less subjective is because they include quite specific, tangible assessments of services provided, such as, "refused to give the services booked for no acceptable reason. " That is an objective criteria and assessment.I beg to differ. You'd think that from my original report that I'd have given the girl a 1 star rating, but, in fact, I gave her 2. Why? She was right on time. That counts for something, more for some guys, less for others. While she didn't give DFK and was fell short of CIM, she did give pretty good head and for quite some time as my body demanded. The biggest downgrade was the phony pictures. Is that her fault or the agencies? It certainly cost her in the ratings. Were I to have ignore the pictures, I'd probably have scored her 3 stars.

Text has nuance that mere numbers don't.

If I were to rate the Smooci system at the moment, I'd give it 3.5 stars. Knowing that it's new and will improve as time passes, I expect it to hit 5 before long. Three improvements I'd like to see: 1) better vetting of the pictures 2) text reviews and 3) a longer window than 4 hours. Ideally I'd like to see 24. In my home city of Montreal, I often book the night before. The agencies that offer that kind of pre-booking are those that are the most successful.

And by the way, props to Smooci for participating in this thread and paying attention to the feedback we're giving.

LA Guy 5
02-13-17, 09:55
One of the reasons I hesitate to use escorts is because of photoshopping and the possibility the girl will look nothing like her photos on the website. Ratings of a girl might not reflect this well because some raters may decide that because it is usually the agency's fault rather than the girl's, it would be unfair to give the girl a low rating because her picture did not correspond to what she looked like in person.

What would be great is if Smooci asked its customers for ratings of the accuracy of the pictures AND then compiled these by agency so that we would know which agencies present the most accurate photos. We could then take this into account when choosing a girl from particular agencies. Although some of the agencies might not appreciate this information being displayed, most particularly those that are deceptive, I suspect having this information on the smooci website / app would increase overall confidence in the service and result in more bookings (like from me).

EihTooms
02-13-17, 14:36
I beg to differ. You'd think that from my original report that I'd have given the girl a 1 star rating, but, in fact, I gave her 2. Why? She was right on time. That counts for something, more for some guys, less for others. While she didn't give DFK and was fell short of CIM, she did give pretty good head and for quite some time as my body demanded. The biggest downgrade was the phony pictures. Is that her fault or the agencies? It certainly cost her in the ratings. Were I to have ignore the pictures, I'd probably have scored her 3 stars.That is interesting. Either a 1 or 2 Star Rating (the one you gave her) penalizes the girl because "the services were not as promised and for no acceptable reason", which, given that she did not provide DFK or CIM as promised on her profile, suggests you gave her a Rating she deserved and one that certainly means something really important to me. Can't speak for others, of course, but if a girl pulls a "head turn" at the end of a BJ when I paid 2500+ baht on the assumption it would end with CIM, I would feel like I've just been ripped off. So, as far as I am concerned at least, thank you for giving her a 2 Star Rating she deserved.

But then you say if she had looked as good as (or more similar to?) her photos, you would have given her a 3 Star Rating, which means if others did the same as you, I might be inspired by her average rating to book a girl who will likely pull a "head turn" on me at the critical moment, in which case I would be paying 2,500+ baht for what amounts to a handjob with some (good?) oral foreplay thrown in rather than a BBBJ+CIM as promised. In other words, I would have gotten ripped off. LOL.

Yes, I realize you might have revealed that important detail about "the services were not as promised and for no acceptable reason" in the text of your review. But, imo, saying that in the text of a review of any girl would not lessen the damage done to her prospects even if you then went on to say the reason you gave her a 3 or 4 Star Rating is because she looked even better than her photos. So whether it is in a Star Rating that says "the services were not as promised and for no acceptable reason" or you say it in your own words in text, as far as I am concerned I would not likely book that girl under any circumstances.

For whatever it's worth, I think I saw the girl in question sporting a 3. 6 Star Rating yesterday or the day before on smooci, a higher rating than I have ever seen for her. Maybe a rash of 1 and 2 Star Ratings put the fear of god in her and she has now turned around and corrected that nasty habit of not delivering services "as promised and for no acceptable reason. " And if that is the case, then I would say a few other customers have you to thank for giving her that well-deserved 2 Star Rating and setting her mind straight on what she is doing for a living.

Also, if that is the case, then I would still side with a lower Star Rating with no text explanation at all meaning much more to a Thai P4P girl who needs to up her game than a higher Star Rating but with a text explanation telling her how she needs to up her game. These girls are looking for high Star Ratings on smooci, pure and simple, and would not grasp the importance of or have the slightest patience with some text explanation saying why one particular rating might have been higher or lower if only...

Regnad
02-14-17, 16:35
For whatever it's worth, I think I saw the girl in question sporting a 3. 6 Star Rating yesterday or the day before on smooci, a higher rating than I have ever seen for her. Maybe a rash of 1 and 2 Star Ratings put the fear of god in her and she has now turned around and corrected that nasty habit of not delivering services "as promised and for no acceptable reason. " And if that is the case, then I would say a few other customers have you to thank for giving her that well-deserved 2 Star Rating and setting her mind straight on what she is doing for a living.She's on tonight and has a rating of 4. 2. Go figure.

Syzygies
02-14-17, 17:41
She's on tonight and has a rating of 4. 2. Go figure.I like this. Girl has to shape up or will retain bad stars. Someone had to be game to book her with only 2 stars though. LOL Go figure is right.

EihTooms
02-15-17, 12:06
I like this. Girl has to shape up or will retain bad stars. Someone had to be game to book her with only 2 stars though. LOL Go figure is right.We hope that is the reason her Star Rating has improved so much so quickly. However, there is always another possibility (maybe several), one that I mentioned earlier; it could be that this girl gets a slew of 0 Star Ratings, the disappointed customers don't even bother to respond to the "Would you like to rate your experience with So-and-So?" follow-up email on the mistaken assumption that giving her no rating at all will convey the message that his experience with her was "meh" or very disappointing.

I am guessing many more of those 0 Star Rating decisions are made by customers who were not thrilled with the experience or the girl under consideration, perhaps felt ripped off, don't want to give her even 1 Star and falsely assume giving her no Star Rating at all will contribute to an even lower overall score for a bad provider than by customers who are still floating on a cloud of sexual bliss from the experience and haven't the strength to click on their smartphone screen. Consequently, there is the risk that a bunch of 0 Star Ratings will leave the Star Ratings to guys who are overjoyed and easily impressed by just about anything a naked girl does alone with them in the room, resulting in her receiving a disproportionately high percentage of 3,4 and 5 Star Ratings.

Which, imo, is all the more reason those Smooci Star Rating Guidelines ought to be right in front of the customer's face on that same follow-up email page asking him to rate the girl / experience rather than referring him to a url link and taken to another page. The customer who feels ripped off because the girl did not deliver the service advertised needs to see near the top of the page on that first follow-up email, right after the simple request for him to rate the girl / experience, that the poorest rating he can give is a 1 Star Rating, not a 0 Star Rating. In fact, it should point out that a 0 Star Rating, not submitting a rating at all, will not be factored into her average and will not be counted.

Robby Rokon
02-15-17, 13:00
Does the advertised pricing include A-Level service if listed. I noted on some of the Agency website add 2000 for A-Level.

Thanks,

Robby Rokon.

Sunlover2
02-15-17, 13:25
She's on tonight and has a rating of 4. 2. Go figure.OK what is going to stop a lady from putting in her own ratings ie have a friend 'book' her and then apply an excellent rating.

Definitive situations are rare in this hobby. Any rating system is subjective and imperfect. More of a rough guideline than anything else.

SL.

SmoociApp
02-15-17, 14:26
To respond to the points regarding 0 ratings. It's currently not possible to give a 0 rating.

Once a booking is complete the user is sent a link to rate the booking. On the ratings page you need to click on one of the stars (1-5) in order to add a comment and submit the score. There is no 0 star option and you can't go any further without selecting at least a 1 star.

I can guarantee you that no one tampers or changes any of the rating scores and the figure shown is 100% the average score of all ratings recieved.

Some companions clearly perform well and get high ratings, and we have seen some who started to get bad ratings and slowly improved. However, there are a few companions who get very mixed reviews, but we have no reason to suspect anyone is setting up fake bookings to improve their ratings.

My personal opinion would be that chemistry is an important factor and no two experiences are quite the same. Some companions are just great professionals and can adapt to almost every situation, even when they are having personal problems or when their clients are being extremely demanding. While some companions are not as good at setting aside their personal tastes and issues, and occasionally let the chemistry or their mood effect their service level.

Eventually we will have a way for users to see the comments, but at the moment we are not in a position to make that possible.

Paradox69
02-15-17, 15:38
Forgive me for interrupting here but I thought agencies always get a cut of the girls fee so if a girl were to get a friend to book her just to give fake reviews wouldn't she be paying money to her agency each time she tried to up her rating? Unless of course the agency the girl is from is also in on fixing ratings which is always possible.

SmoociApp
02-15-17, 22:55
OK what is going to stop a lady from putting in her own ratings ie have a friend 'book' her and then apply an excellent rating.While it would be possible to create fake bookings it would take a lot of time and effort, and need to be repeated several times to counteract a string of bad reviews, and at the moment we have no reason suspect that has happened.

To make a fake booking they would first need to verify a mobile number and address, which is almost always a hotel room. We also track the companion from their start point to the location at the booking time, so they would need to make this journey at the set time. We also have a booking team which verify and monitor bookings, and also review the stats to look for possible performance improvement but also to note any unusual behavior. They would also be made unavailable during the process and wouldn't be able to accept any bookings until the process was over.

If a companion was performing bad and getting low reviews, for example a 1 star, in order to turn a 2 into a 4. 2 they would need to then do 3 fake bookings with a 5 star, repeating the above. And while it's not impossible it's likely our team would notice it and / or the companion would realize it's much easier to start offering better service.

When a companion is under performing we do try to pass on the relevant points for improvement and give them some suggestions. One of the goals of Smooci is to get agencies and companions to be more conscious of their service levels, and understand that ratings and review can be a good thing, helping the genuine service providers get more bookings and giving the poor performers the chance to change their ways or find themselves getting fewer bookings or eventually being removed from the platform.

EihTooms
02-16-17, 02:10
To respond to the points regarding 0 ratings. It's currently not possible to give a 0 rating.

Once a booking is complete the user is sent a link to rate the booking. On the ratings page you need to click on one of the stars (1-5) in order to add a comment and submit the score. There is no 0 star option and you can't go any further without selecting at least a 1 star.Just to clarify the point I have been making about customers submitting a 0 Star Rating, what I meant was a customer who does not bother to rate the girl / experience at all might only THINK he is submitting a 0 Star Rating. I probably should have put "quotation" marks around the term "0 Star Rating" to indicate I was only using the term figuratively.

As I wrote in those comments, it is my belief that many disappointed customers who have not seen that very first of your Star Rating Guidelines, #1, clearly stating that a 1 Star Rating is the poorest rating one can give, could naturally but mistakenly assume giving her no Stars at all will make a statement about his disappointment that would factor into and count against her average rating when it does not.

Mosquito2002
02-16-17, 04:16
When will more cities be added to this app??

DesiDownUnder
02-16-17, 06:48
Not sure if this is the best place to ask this question, how many shots in 2 hours booking?

EihTooms
02-16-17, 06:57
Not sure if this is the best place to ask this question, how many shots in 2 hours booking?You'll find that on the girl's profile. Click on her name. I think you'll find it is 1 shot for a 1 hour session, 2 shots for a 2 hour session. Then I think it remains at 2 shots for a while but you might find as many as 4 shots stated for the maximum time you can book through smooci, 24 hours. But probably should just check in each girl's profile.

Crocodilexp
02-16-17, 10:19
Not sure if this is the best place to ask this question, how many shots in 2 hours booking?Typically 2 shots.

Unrelated to Smocci, but time-based offers from hookers (e. G. "1 hour" or "2 hours") basically amount to false advertising, unless it's explicitly stated that unlimited shots are on offer. The only exceptions I've seen are a few PSE oilies like Tulip or Snow White, which really deliver the time promised.

According to Wikipedia, it takes a typical guy 5-7 minutes to cum. Whatever they say, they usually won't stay for too long after you cum, and most guys won't have the energy to complain. So, typically, "1 hour" from a hooker means "I'm expecting 20 min or so, but 1 hour is an absolute maximum if you manage not to cum earlier, and I don't turn you off completely by whining about you taking too long".

Preben From Dk
02-16-17, 15:45
Hi!

Had a lot of problems with my booking.

Booked for 24 hours. She said when she arrived '24 hours, really? I don't do 24 Hours' However she accepted my money and the booking.

She is beautiful and no complaints about the sex. But in the morning she had to leave for a school thing, would be back soon (a couple of hours) I had little problem with that. I could sleep and short workout. She came back after 6.5 hours.

Question for smooci is. In the middle of my booking she became available for booking! How? Why? Makes me think she was having 2 dates at the same time. And the 6.5 hours gone she was working double shifts. My booking was from 9 pm to 9 pm.

Thanks!

DwayneJohnson
02-16-17, 17:51
Hi!

Had a lot of problems with my booking.

Booked for 24 hours. She said when she arrived '24 hours, really? I don't do 24 Hours' However she accepted my money and the booking.

She is beautiful and no complaints about the sex. But in the morning she had to leave for a school thing, would be back soon (a couple of hours) I had little problem with that. I could sleep and short workout. She came back after 6.5 hours.

Question for smooci is. In the middle of my booking she became available for booking! How? Why? Makes me think she was having 2 dates at the same time. And the 6.5 hours gone she was working double shifts. My booking was from 9 pm to 9 pm.

Thanks!Simple mathematics, if they do multiple ST they end up earning more than single LLT. Also some girls can tolerate farang ting tong only for few hours so they try to run away after some time.

I have found it that its always better to convert ST to LT once we have some amount of chemistry, however I do that with FLs, bar girls, gogo girls as I rarely book agency girls.

SmoociApp
02-16-17, 20:58
Hi!

Had a lot of problems with my booking.

Booked for 24 hours. She said when she arrived '24 hours, really? I don't do 24 Hours' However she accepted my money and the booking.

She is beautiful and no complaints about the sex. But in the morning she had to leave for a school thing, would be back soon (a couple of hours) I had little problem with that. I could sleep and short workout. She came back after 6.5 hours.

Question for smooci is. In the middle of my booking she became available for booking! How? Why? Makes me think she was having 2 dates at the same time. And the 6.5 hours gone she was working double shifts. My booking was from 9 pm to 9 pm.

Thanks!Sorry to hear you had a bad experience.

The companion should be fully aware of the start time and duration of the booking. When a booking is placed by the user the full details are sent to the agency, with all the booking details very clear, including any extra notes added by the user. They have to click to accept all the details in order to accept the booking, at which point both the user and agency / companion get sent confirmation, again with all the details clear (including price, time, and duration).

A companion can be made available again an hour after her current bookings is due to finish, and as we allow bookings up to 4 hours in advanced, it is possible that a companion could be seen as available for future bookings within the last 3 hours of a booking. But if the companion was available at an earlier stage then I suspect the companion or the agency clicked to confirm the booking had ended when it hadn't. It would also be evident that a companion clicked to end the booking early if the user recieved an SMS or email confirming the booking is over and giving the ratings page link.

We also check carefully to make sure agencies / companions don't try to open up multiple accounts. We are starting to link companion accounts to official government IDs in order to avoid this, and avoid any companions who are suspended or banned trying to sign up under a new name.

Preben, could you please email me at contact@smooci.com and let me know the what happened along with the booking details. I will look into this further for you.

Kimi1
02-20-17, 21:14
I've used Smooci twice now. In Dec 16 and was very impressed. Did the booking on the website and via email. Got a call to my hotel to re-confirm. Could track the girl as well then. Rated the girl after she left. No complains and will use again for sure.

Just wanted to let you guys know that in future perhaps you can look into how we can book two girls together. I know it will be difficult but it would be a great option!

Cheers!

Will be back in April and will use again!

Crazy4Thai
02-21-17, 12:45
Just wanted to let you guys know that in future perhaps you can look into how we can book two girls together. I know it will be difficult but it would be a great option!
Before I decide if I want to have sex with you present, could you post several revealing photos of yourself?

Sorry sir, this is not normal in my culture. No offense.

Darpra
02-21-17, 20:06
Just wondering if I'm staying with someone else is it possible to book via smooci and have the girl arrive at some other short time hotel near by?

HotShaneHot
02-22-17, 17:04
That is interesting. Either a 1 or 2 Star Rating (the one you gave her) penalizes the girl because "the services were not as promised and for no acceptable reason", which, given that she did not provide DFK or CIM as promised on her profile, suggests you gave her a Rating she deserved and one that certainly means something really important to me. Can't speak for others, of course, but if a girl pulls a "head turn" at the end of a BJ when I paid 2500+ baht on the assumption it would end with CIM, I would feel like I've just been ripped off. So, as far as I am concerned at least, thank you for giving her a 2 Star Rating she deserved...I give Smooci one more try.

With a better result.

I was getting worried as 30 minutes had passed to the booking time and the track app did not work.

By the time she was get hear the tracking app was still in the same spot as she was stat.

But I did see the same problem as EIH Tooms did the services were not as promised " CIM " no way " COF " no way if don't do don't say there will do.

But she was nice and fun to be with.

And I did have a good time.

Would I use Smooci again yes I would.

SmoociApp
02-23-17, 04:54
I've used Smooci twice now. In Dec 16 and was very impressed. Did the booking on the website and via email. Got a call to my hotel to re-confirm. Could track the girl as well then. Rated the girl after she left. No complains and will use again for sure.

Just wanted to let you guys know that in future perhaps you can look into how we can book two girls together. I know it will be difficult but it would be a great option!

Cheers!

Will be back in April and will use again!It's not currently possible to book a DUO (2 girls at the same time), through Smooci.

Technically you can make two bookings for the same time and duration, but if you wish to do this I would strongly advise to first pick on girl and then contacting her agency to make sure she is offers a good DUO experience, and then asking for recommendations on who works best with her. Then return to smooci to make both the bookings, making a note on both bookings that this is a duo booking and who it is with.

SmoociApp
03-01-17, 14:21
Just a quick update:

We have added agency ratings. These can be found in brackets next to the agency name when you go into a companion's profile, and in brackets next to the agency name when you view the drop down within the filter.

Agency ratings are the combined average score of all the companions listed by the said agency. The idea of showing an agency rating encourages the agency to take responsibility for all the companions it lists. It also gives a little more info for the user when booking a companion, which may be particularly helpful when booking a new companion who is without a rating score (yet to receive their first 3 ratings).

SamSydney1980
03-02-17, 08:53
Hi,

Just wondering how does a 12 HR & 24 HR service work? I'd like to book soon.

Thanks. Sammy.


Just a quick update:

We have added agency ratings. These can be found in brackets next to the agency name when you go into a companion's profile, and in brackets next to the agency name when you view the drop down within the filter.

Agency ratings are the combined average score of all the companions listed by the said agency. The idea of showing an agency rating encourages the agency to take responsibility for all the companions it lists. It also gives a little more info for the user when booking a companion, which may be particularly helpful when booking a new companion who is without a rating score (yet to receive their first 3 ratings).

SmoociApp
03-02-17, 14:05
Hi,

Just wondering how does a 12 HR & 24 HR service work? I'd like to book soon.

Thanks. Sammy.Hi Sammy,

I'm not sure what you are asking. 12 HR and 24 HR bookings working in the same way a 1 or 2 HR booking would. You can make the booking up to 4 hours in advance and follow the same process. Some companions won't offer a 12/24 HR experience and therefore won't show in the result, but every companion who shows in the results will be happy with spending extended amounts of time with their clients.

If you have any specific requirements, such as you expect to attend a nice restaurant or plan to go swimming, etc, you can add the appropriate notes on the booking form, so that the companion is prepared.

One personal tip: Chemistry is key to a lot of long term bookings (of more than 4 hours), so if you are looking for a specific type of person / personality, I would suggest to either enquiry with the agency to gage learn a little more about the character of your prefered companion, or better yet, make a shorter time booking of 2-4 hours, and then extend it needed. While some companions may not be able to extended their time with you, many will, and it's easier trying to extend a short booking to be a long one, than the other way around.

Sum12
03-02-17, 15:08
I have booked twice with your app and I must say it is definitely useful and I plan to use it more in the coming days. However when I booked the services I did not get the services as quoted (DFK, etc). Is that normal?

Also both times the girls were from agencies and unfortunately with both girls during the first sessions the condom broke. So I was curious to know whether you ensure with the agencies that their girls are tested though they both said they do so every 3 months but only after I persistently enquirer. Thanks in advance for a quick reply as I'm a bit worried.

SmoociApp
03-04-17, 10:10
I have booked twice with your app and I must say it is definitely useful and I plan to use it more in the coming days. However when I booked the services I did not get the services as quoted (DFK, etc). Is that normal?

Also both times the girls were from agencies and unfortunately with both girls during the first sessions the condom broke. So I was curious to know whether you ensure with the agencies that their girls are tested though they both said they do so every 3 months but only after I persistently enquirer. Thanks in advance for a quick reply as I'm a bit worried.Hi Sum12,

You should always get the services quoted. And if you don't, please make sure to fill out the review and comment on it.

We currently rely on the comments to monitor and verify the accuracy of the photos and services listed for a companion. The companions / agencies are responsible for filling out the companion profiles correctly, and we are trying to increase that responsibility by making agency ratings visible and giving the agencies and companions regular feedback. Now that the agencies and companions are starting to understand the importance of the ratings and taking responsibility we are also going to start introducing a stricter warning and banning system to raise the standards.

If a companion is getting low reviews and we see a common complaint in the comments that the companion isn't performing the services they offer on their profile, then we will give them the option to remove these services or start performing them consistently. And if the low ratings continue with the same complaints then they will be suspended and ultimately banned if it continues on their return.

Regarding the testing of companions, this is down to the individual policy of each agency. All the agencies we have accepted onto our platform are experienced and we would expect them to test girls regularly and remove or suspend girls who flagged up with negative results. You would need to contact the agency directly to know their exact testing policy and when girls were last tested.

I think you have very little to be worried about, not only would the girls be tested regularly but we only accept agencies and companions who actively promote safe sex.

Syzygies
03-04-17, 15:23
Also both times the girls were from agencies and unfortunately with both girls during the first sessions the condom broke. So I was curious to know whether you ensure with the agencies that their girls are tested though they both said they do so every 3 months but only after I persistently enquirer. Thanks in advance for a quick reply as I'm a bit worried.Yes, condoms break occasionally, but twice in a row is a bit freaky? The right type of lube must be used. Oils are not considered suitable. Obviously there is fingernails, and a definite danger is girls having a sponge stuffed up the vagina which can cause abrasion on a condom.

EihTooms
03-04-17, 16:21
Regarding the testing of companions, this is down to the individual policy of each agency. All the agencies we have accepted onto our platform are experienced and we would expect them to test girls regularly and remove or suspend girls who flagged up with negative results. You would need to contact the agency directly to know their exact testing policy and when girls were last tested.
It might be just a matter of semantics and I'm sure most readers knew what you meant. But just in case there are any men and women reading this who are unfamiliar with what an Anti-HIV or STD blood check test result document looks like, "negative" is most definitely the result you want to get and see on that document.

Perhaps there is some varience from testing clinic to testing clinic, but at the Thai Red Cross testing clinic, the words "negative" and "non reactive" are how they report that they found no traces or evidence of HIV and / or STIs.

Terwagne
03-04-17, 17:38
The 2 hour rate for Smooci is lower that the rate advertised by the respective agencies.

For extended time from 4 hours to 24 hours, the gap Smooci / angencies gets even bigger. Some girls offering Bht 7,000. - for 24 hours. (agency price Bht 5,000/2 h).

Still one escorts keeps a high price, Bambi: Bht 20,000 for 24 h. (agency price Bhr 30,000 Bangkok dream girl escort).

Can anybody inform us if this price is justified? She has a 4. 7 rate.

The rating system of Smooci is great. It helps everybody to improve. You only improve what you measure!

Is the Smooci rating an average of all feedbacks, or only the last 10 feedbacks for example. The latter would be more efficient / motivating as it would show the improvements form the escort.

SmoociApp
03-04-17, 20:47
The 2 hour rate for Smooci is lower that the rate advertised by the respective agencies.

For extended time from 4 hours to 24 hours, the gap Smooci / angencies gets even bigger. Some girls offering Bht 7,000. - for 24 hours. (agency price Bht 5,000/2 h).

Still one escorts keeps a high price, Bambi: Bht 20,000 for 24 h. (agency price Bhr 30,000 Bangkok dream girl escort).

Can anybody inform us if this price is justified? She has a 4. 7 rate.

The rating system of Smooci is great. It helps everybody to improve. You only improve what you measure!

Is the Smooci rating an average of all feedbacks, or only the last 10 feedbacks for example. The latter would be more efficient / motivating as it would show the improvements form the escort.At the moment the companion score is the average of all rating scores recieved.

Jaaxie
03-08-17, 12:04
I'm writing here instead of emailing Smooci app in case other members have the same question in mind.

I read on your blog you now have 'switched to an SMS verification and notification system, which will make bookings faster and easier to confirm'. Is that optional or required for bookings? How is that making things easier for us? For Agencies maybe, if they want it to be completely automated. For ME, I thought the way it was working was fine. My experience with Smooci one night: I booked, got a call within minutes from the agency letting me know that unfortunately she had to cancel. Back to smooci, made another appointment with different agency for different girl. Again, few minutes later another call (also to make sure I am where I said I am) and this time the rep from the agency confirmed the booking and asked if I had any special requests, nice. Tracked my companion on the smooci site, arrived on time, reviewed her on same afterward and I was happy.

Personally it was working fine for me. I would rather not give out my personal cell phone. I don't want any record of texts and I don't want to chance getting updates or texts when not in Bangkok. You will say the number will never be shared, will never be used except for that booking alone but I will not feel secure, and I don't want to buy / rent another cell / sim. Will make me seriously reconsider using the service in future if this is a must as your blog suggests. Besides, won't the agency still call the hotel and room number I provide to ensure that I am where I say I am? I think they would, in which case its duplicated. And if I was a dick and just wanted to waste people's time, couldn't I make a booking from say Alaska and send some poor girl to some address in Bangkok. If my cell is roaming or I'm actually in Alaska you have no way of knowing. The agency will still call the hotel to confirm I guess or the links will allow you to find me by GPS? I like that even less. Many guys will prefer it, no doubt, many I suspect will not.

Am I missing something? I hope I am because I am loving the smooci concept and I have a short list of gals I've been compiling (that keeps getting longer as I read posts in other threads here BTW, thanks guys, great sharing!) that I plan to book with smooci but if this is the way it has to be, I would rather pay more to deal with the agency directly.

Thanks.

J.

WarmStone25
03-08-17, 12:21
Smooci.

I was in Bangkok recently, on 2 cnd March, and decided to try this new service. I had doubts about the descriptions and photos. So I decided to trust the rating system. I chose J-Net who had a rating of 4. 4 at the time and the cost was less than some of the other escorts. The booking system appeared to be working efficiently on my smart phone, as shown in the Smooci blog. I also got a telephone call from the agency to confirm the booking. The progress shown was disjointed and the time to arrival changed abruptly from 23 minutes to 5 minutes, as she travelled on the Sky Train to Asoke Station. Within the 5 minutes she was in my room. The escort performed to my satisfaction. Within about ten minutes of the escort leaving I received an e-mail inviting me to rate my experience. I gave her a good overall rating although I thought she looked slightly better in her photos. The system appears to have worked in this case, apart from the interruption in showing progress.

Later, on 05th March. I chose Oli, who had a rating of 4. 5 at the time and the cost was under 3000 bht. I received messages as shown on the Smooci blog. I also got a telephone call from the agency to confirm the booking. The progress was shown as she travelled on the Sky Train to Asoke Station and the hotel at T21. The escort performed to my satisfaction and she looked better than her photos. I gave her a good overall rating.

Overall the Smooci rating system has served well, the escorts lived up to their ratings, on these two occasions, and I enjoyed contributing to the rating system.

SmoociApp
03-09-17, 07:31
The SMS verification makes the bookings a lot quicker to confirm and greatly reduces the possibility of double bookings, booking cancellations, and fake bookings, while speeding up communication in general.

An email verification only confirms a point of contact, it isn't enough to confirm that a booking is genuine (we were getting a high number of fake bookings). So after receiving email verification, which can take 5-10 minutes, most agencies then require us to confirm the hotel / location and name before sending the details to the agency to confirm the booking. In all this can take about 5-15 minutes, with the user waiting for confirmation and the chance the booking will fail due to booking clash.

The SMS verification takes away all those issues allowing us to instantly verify a booking in a widely accepted way, virtually cut out fake bookings, and have bookings confirmed in seconds with a low rate of cancellation.

Jaaxie
03-10-17, 04:00
The SMS verification takes away all those issues allowing us to instantly verify a booking in a widely accepted way, virtually cut out fake bookings, and have bookings confirmed in seconds with a low rate of cancellation.Thanks for the reply. You partially answered my question in that, yes, it's required. Sadly, I won't find out if its better as I won't be using the service anymore.

Chucky25
03-12-17, 18:19
Hi all,

I used Smooci 2 times in Bangkok. The site is very good, the girls performed well (it was weenee and beer), but I have to say that the photos are very very photoshoped.

Thanks.

SmoociApp
03-13-17, 08:12
Hi all,

I used Smooci 2 times in Bangkok. The site is very good, the girls performed well (it was weenee and beer), but I have to say that the photos are very very photoshoped.

Thanks.The photoshopping is definitely an issue. We have discussed it here in detail, it's an industry problem which we are very conscious off and are working hard to find the best solution for our platform.

We have a few ideas we are working on and one which we are getting close to put into action. I'm optimistic that within the next month we will have an update that will let users know how accurate photos are.

Member #4591
03-15-17, 17:49
Is Smooci legit? Seems too good to be true! I'm headed to BKK next month and need to line something up.

Thanks.What's too good to be true about it? You pick an available girl you like, she arrives at the time you request, you pay the money, have your session, and then she goes. Is the Bangkok scene this bad that one thinks a normal service it too good to be true? Interesting to say the least. In my opinion, smooci is kinda a way to help keep the escorts agencies honest. It surly would not be my first choice since I like to see the girl before choosing but my experience was good. Will report it soon in the proper thread and will bump this to the proper thread as well.

Bad Duck
03-15-17, 21:24
This app seems to be the perfect solution for a lot of people. Well done to whoever came up with this idea. Please note I am not vouching for the service yet as I have not yet tried it. But I surely do intend to and then leave a review.

Anyone have any hangups?

LA Guy 5
03-16-17, 07:59
The SMS verification makes the bookings a lot quicker to confirm and greatly reduces the possibility of double bookings, booking cancellations, and fake bookings, while speeding up communication in general.

An email verification only confirms a point of contact, it isn't enough to confirm that a booking is genuine (we were getting a high number of fake bookings). So after receiving email verification, which can take 5-10 minutes, most agencies then require us to confirm the hotel / location and name before sending the details to the agency to confirm the booking. In all this can take about 5-15 minutes, with the user waiting for confirmation and the chance the booking will fail due to booking clash.

The SMS verification takes away all those issues allowing us to instantly verify a booking in a widely accepted way, virtually cut out fake bookings, and have bookings confirmed in seconds with a low rate of cancellation.The problem I have with this is with the new administration in the United States Customs is apparently examining the content of many people's cell phones when they enter the country. This is according to a CNN report.

Previously, they used to do this a fair amount with computers but at least with a computer I know how to remove traces of items I would not want customs to see. I know some people believe that unless the activity is illegal under USA Law there is no problem, but they are mistaken. It seems at least in the past and most likely presently customs and immigration compiled lists of people they suspect are sex tourists and once placed on this list a person can expect increased scrutiny, e. G. , intrusive searches, on every reentry into the country. So unless and until I figure out how to effectively remove any traces of communications from Smooci from my mobile phone (and keep in mind customs has the right which they sometimes exercise to do a forensic analysis on electronic devices entering the country) I might be hesitant to use the service. Then again, if there is someone out there who can provide reliable information on how to remove traces from an android telephone, I might reconsider.

On a more positive note, I am happy to see that Smooci has plans to address the photoshopping problem that seems to infect many agencies. As I mentioned in an earlier post, photoshopping and the general unreliability of the photos posted by many agencies has in the past been the major disincentive to my use of the services of agencies, not only in Thailand but worldwide.

Bombastica
03-16-17, 08:56
A question for smooci developers. Recently I made a booking through smooci.com, however the booking was not fulfilled because the agency notified by email that the escort was suddenly unavailable.

Afterwards, I got a notification that the booking was fulfilled and smooci.com would like me to review the escort. Which comes to my question, if the booking was cancelled by the agency or escort, is there an option to cancel the booking? Or notify smooci that the booking was cancelled?

Sunlover2
03-16-17, 09:27
On a more positive note, I am happy to see that Smooci has plans to address the photoshopping problem that seems to infect many agencies. As I mentioned in an earlier post, photoshopping and the general unreliability of the photos posted by many agencies has in the past been the major disincentive to my use of the services of agencies, not only in Thailand but worldwide.IMO besides the photoshop issue there is the glam shots situation. Any lady who has makeup professionally applied and a professional photographer taking the pixs is going to look A LOT better than she does on a normal day. The odds of them showing up for a date at their all glammed up best are quite low.

Punters complain about unrealistic pix, but also comment that with realistic pixs the girls are not attractive enough. Can't have it both ways. I prefer realistic and to have the lady's looks exceed my expectations, rather than to be underwhelmed when she turns up.

Photo shopped pix can include body sculpting and face smoothing. Glam shots concentrate mostly on makeup, outfits, and optimum posing.

Google 'models without makeup' and you will get the idea. Be forewarned it will spoil the illusion.

SL.

Danibbler
03-17-17, 05:06
I would rather not give out my personal cell phone. I don't want any record of texts and I don't want to chance getting updates or texts when not in Bangkok. You will say the number will never be shared, will never be used except for that booking alone but I will not feel secure, and I don't want to buy / rent another cell / sim. Will make me seriously reconsider using the service in future if this is a must as your blog suggests. This.

Smooci's answer says nothing about how the new system is better for clients aside from them not waiting a few minutes.

Tiandihui
03-17-17, 05:31
IMO besides the photoshop issue there is the glam shots situation. Any lady who has makeup professionally applied and a professional photographer taking the pixs is going to look A LOT better than she does on a normal day. The odds of them showing up for a date at their all glammed up best are quite low.

Punters complain about unrealistic pix, but also comment that with realistic pixs the girls are not attractive enough. Can't have it both ways. I prefer realistic and to have the lady's looks exceed my expectations, rather than to be underwhelmed when she turns up.

Photo shopped pix can include body sculpting and face smoothing. Glam shots concentrate mostly on makeup, outfits, and optimum posing.

Google 'models without makeup' and you will get the idea. Be forewarned it will spoil the illusion.

SL.Everyone is arguing about the pic and real person.

Seriously if there is 80-85% its consider very good.

Lets face the facts.

Even Victoria Secrets Models with minimum or no make up, they look shit too.

But there are indeed some natural beauty in the basket of rotten apples too.

Which Hollywood actress you or many admire from the film looks DAMN gorgeous without make up.

Which female stars have firm and round tits when they are not in the films or events (Instead you see 2 papayas hanging in front of their chest).

Same goes to the bars and massage parlors, they have make up artists to do the make up and hairdo for the girls. (No make up = [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) Gar-ser).

Whenever I book a escorts, my expectation is always put as 70-75% to the pic I see from the ads.

SmoociApp
03-17-17, 06:33
This.

Smooci's answer says nothing about how the new system is better for clients aside from them not waiting a few minutes.Hi,

To recap from the clients perspective.

The SMS verification:

- Speeds up the booking process (instead of taking 10-15 minutes for a booking to be confirmed it can be done within 2 minutes, in some cases almost instantly).

- It decreases the number of failed bookings (before around 30% of bookings failed, with around 20% of these being fake bookings and 10% being bookings where the agency couldn't confirm in time, or double bookings, we have now cut that down to less than 4% of genuine bookings).

- Quicker updates on existing bookings, with direct contact to the agencies to cancel or amend a booking.

The change to SMS verification was in order to improve the experience for the client / user. We were getting too many fake and failed bookings as email verification was not reliable enough for us to get the booking confirmed at a reasonable speed. The new SMS verification is also a key component to allowing us to bring independents on to our platform.

Regarding USA Phone checks we haven't heard that this is the case, nor have we had any feedback from clients who have been checked and had problems. The USA Immigration would primarily be concerned with terror threats and illegal immigration. On an escort front they would be mostly concerned with [CodeWord902] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902) sex (we do not allow anyone [CodeWord902] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902) to work on our platform). If you are concerned in anyway you can simply delete messages recieved by smooci (this goes for any interaction with sex workers in Thailand). In an extreme case where your phone was taken away by immigration and sent to a tech team for analysis and the retrieving emails, call logs, and messages, then you will have aroused some suspicion and a date with a legal aged sex worker in Thailand would be the least of your worries (they wouldn't be doing this to simply check if you were one of the 8+ million tourists to use an escort in Thailand this year).

LA Guy 5
03-18-17, 00:10
Regarding USA Phone checks we haven't heard that this is the case, nor have we had any feedback from clients who have been checked and had problems. The USA Immigration would primarily be concerned with terror threats and illegal immigration. On an escort front they would be mostly concerned with . . . sex (we do not allow anyone , , , to work on our platform). If you are concerned in anyway you can simply delete messages recieved by smooci (this goes for any interaction with sex workers in Thailand). In an extreme case where your phone was taken away by immigration and sent to a tech team for analysis and the retrieving emails, call logs, and messages, then you will have aroused some suspicion and a date with a legal aged sex worker in Thailand would be the least of your worries (they wouldn't be doing this to simply check if you were one of the 8+ million tourists to use an escort in Thailand this year).

You don't seem to be well-informed on this issue. Although the testimony did not focus on sex tourism, here is some testimony before Congress on the intrusive searches Customs did during the Bush administration, searches it now appears are going to increase under Trump.

https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CHRG-110shrg45091/html/CHRG-110shrg45091.htm (owing to the way I edited this, you will need to cut and paste the link; sorry about that).

It was common then for customs agents to red flag suspected sex tourists, irrespective of age considerations. Getting red-flagged could cause innumerable problems. Although one would have hoped Customs would have focused on things that are important, such as terrorism and und@@age issues, they had unbridled discretion to focus on whatever they wished, and unfortunately some chose to focus on those who engaged in paid sex abroad with no qualifications.

Although I have noticed during the Obama administration some decrease in these sorts of Customs practices, indications are they likely will increase under the Trump administration. Consistent with this, CNN reports a significant increase in the number of electronic device searches that occur at the border without so much as reasonable suspicion let alone probable cause. The one crack in this is the Ninth Circuit ruled that before Customs can do a forensic search of an electronic device there must be reasonable suspicion. So, if you arrive on the West Coast or in Hawaii, you get at least this level of protection. This ruling, however, still allows a customs agent to open and examine all the contents of a device manually. But I am unaware of any other Circuit court imposing even this level of limitation on the border searches (perhaps there is one or two that I am unaware of though).

I remember once returning to the United States from a business trip to Singapore, and I had numerous documents showing the purpose of the trip. Nonetheless, the customs agent at a particularly aggressive border entry point where they sent an excess of people to secondary insisted, even after examining my business documents, on searching through my video and regular camera thinking he would find photos of girls, which he did not. I sometimes joked that I should have said "hey, Bin Laden just walked by while you were focused on my stuff (this was when he was still alive)". While many naively believe the customs agents only focus on what they really should, like terror threats, given they have the legal right to focus on whatever they damn well please, there are quite a few who are sex-obsessed in how they conduct their searches, and love to red flag those who show any inclination towards sex tourism.

SmoociApp
03-18-17, 06:11
As we mentioned in previous posts, we are very conscious that photoshopping and inaccurate photos are a problem in the industry and it's something we are looking to tackle. We are working on a few ideas, one being to allow users to rate photos on how accurate they are, and then share this info and automatically remove photos which are inaccurate or heavily photo shopped, and we'd appreciate your feedback on this is.

The idea would be as follows:

At the moment, once a booking has been completed the user will get a link to add a star rating (1-5) and leave a comment regarding the booking. The new idea would be to add a 3rd optional step where the user can then rate one or more of the companions photos (we are not sure whether to give the user a random photo from their profile to rate, or allow the to rate all 6 (max of 6 photos on profile)). The user will have the option to click whether the photo was accurate or not and using an algorithm of giving a no a 1 and a yes a 10, after 5 ratings we can start to score each photo out of 10 for their accuracy.

We can potentially share the score on photos given at least 5 ratings so users can see how accurate a photo is.

We can set the system to automatically remove photos which have a low rating and potentially highlight photos which are deemed very accurate.

We can set the system to only count ratings given within 3 months, to make sure the photos remain accurate and current.

While it's not a perfect system, as accuracy of photo can be somewhat subjective, it should at least help to highlight photos which are very accurate and remove photos which are very inaccurate.

Boag11
03-20-17, 15:37
Phottoshopping is also one of my biggest annoyances. The girls that have come over were all pretty and look close enough but me personally prefer more light skinned girl and a few that has arrives are on the opposite side of the shade scale. One was so far off I had to check photos again to make sure I got the right girl.


As we mentioned in previous posts, we are very conscious that photoshopping and inaccurate photos are a problem in the industry and it's something we are looking to tackle. We are working on a few ideas, one being to allow users to rate photos on how accurate they are, and then share this info and automatically remove photos which are inaccurate or heavily photo shopped, and we'd appreciate your feedback on this is.

The idea would be as follows:

At the moment, once a booking has been completed the user will get a link to add a star rating (1-5) and leave a comment regarding the booking. The new idea would be to add a 3rd optional step where the user can then rate one or more of the companions photos (we are not sure whether to give the user a random photo from their profile to rate, or allow the to rate all 6 (max of 6 photos on profile)). The user will have the option to click whether the photo was accurate or not and using an algorithm of giving a no a 1 and a yes a 10, after 5 ratings we can start to score each photo out of 10 for their accuracy..

Syzygies
03-20-17, 18:38
Phottoshopping is also one of my biggest annoyances. The girls that have come over were all pretty and look close enough but me personally prefer more light skinned girl and a few that has arrives are on the opposite side of the shade scale. One was so far off I had to check photos again to make sure I got the right girl.Yeh, I have virtually decided on some hot looking girl till I see a more realistic pic of her, and suddenly change my mind. Looks are all important to me. So being fussy about the exact look, can I ask why you are so set on using escorts? I prefer to see the girl properly and study her closely if possible before deciding. However fortunately I don't need pornstars, and exact skin colour (if not too extreme) or hair colour are not so important to me. We each have our own foibles.

I would have thought most escort users would be not too fussy about the exact look, since you get a surprise when she shows up, unless have met her before or seen absolutely real pics.

Some very good looking girls exist out there that are not escorts, so consider some other options. Perhaps the hunt is too time consuming?

Photo shopping and the old "bait and switch". Probably the 2nd one is even more despicable, but just the attempt to con is very annoying. Why do guys put up with it. If was me on receiving a girl nothing like what was promised, I am sure I would send her away. In the other world guys get a bad surprise when girls take their clothes off and find disaster underneath. I suppose that is less common in Escorts but I am allergic to bad silicones and bad nose jobs, so common place. The risks are immense. I prefer to see girls live as scantily clad as possible if not nude. Then I have to spend time to see if I like the character and then risk only the performance.

I think we all want to minimise risk of wasting big money. So how to do that with Escorts? Which agency can be trusted to give real pics and no switch?

Boag11
03-20-17, 19:47
Reason I enjoy escorts is most, as far as I've encountered, do what they say will do. Especially on smooci where I never select girls with poor ratings. So my biggest remaining problem with smooci is the photoshopping. Also gogo girls and bar girls, most of them have very poor performances and are clock watchers, so they might have the looks I'm looking for but are total mood killers.


Yeh, I have virtually decided on some hot looking girl till I see a more realistic pic of her, and suddenly change my mind. Looks are all important to me. So being fussy about the exact look, can I ask why you are so set on using escorts? I prefer to see the girl properly and study her closely if possible before deciding. However fortunately I don't need pornstars, and exact skin colour (if not too extreme) or hair colour are not so important to me. We each have our own foibles.

I would have thought most escort users would be not too fussy about the exact look, since you get a surprise when she shows up, unless have met her before or seen absolutely real pics.

Some very good looking girls exist out there that are not escorts, so consider some other options. Perhaps the hunt is too time consuming?

Photo shopping and the old "bait and switch". Probably the 2nd one is even more despicable, but just the attempt to con is very annoying. Why do guys put up with it. If was me on receiving a girl nothing like what was promised, I am sure I would send her away. In the other world guys get a bad surprise when girls take their clothes off and find disaster underneath. I suppose that is less common in Escorts but I am allergic to bad silicones and bad nose jobs, so common place. The risks are immense. I prefer to see girls live as scantily clad as possible if not nude. Then I have to spend time to see if I like the character and then risk only the performance.

I think we all want to minimise risk of wasting big money. So how to do that with Escorts? Which agency can be trusted to give real pics and no switch?.

Danibbler
03-21-17, 04:53
The SMS verification:

- Speeds up the booking process (instead of taking 10-15 minutes for a booking to be confirmed it can be done within 2 minutes, in some cases almost instantly).

- It decreases the number of failed bookings (before around 30% of bookings failed, with around 20% of these being fake bookings and 10% being bookings where the agency couldn't confirm in time, or double bookings, we have now cut that down to less than 4% of genuine bookings).

- Quicker updates on existing bookings, with direct contact to the agencies to cancel or amend a booking.

The change to SMS verification was in order to improve the experience for the client / user. We were getting too many fake and failed bookings as email verification was not reliable enough for us to get the booking confirmed at a reasonable speed. The new SMS verification is also a key component to allowing us to bring independents on to our platform.

Regarding USA Phone checks we haven't heard that this is the case, nor have we had any feedback from clients who have been checked and had problems. The USA Immigration would primarily be concerned with terror threats and illegal immigration. Thanks Smooci but I am not worried about waiting a few minutes or cancelling / amending a booking. Nor am I worried about the authorities. What I am worried about is that foreign SMSes are listed on my bill. The new SMS verification system seems to produce up to four individual SMSes per booking. Those will show up on my bill.

I think you guys have a great system but it is just a bit too revealing for my tastes. (Maybe I will get a SIM card at the airport.).

Jaaxie
03-21-17, 06:30
...it is just a bit too revealing for my tastes. (Maybe I will get a SIM card at the airport.).That was exactly my point as well, although in my case authorities do in theory have real time access / monitoring of my sms even when traveling. That's not however my point. It is about privacy. Renting another phone seems to be the only available option to those of us that are bothered by this move, but why should I need to? On my last trip to BKK I expressly avoided using Smooci and booked companions without them. I'm not a techie and I just don't get the point. As I said in previous posts, the previous system worked well for ME. And I guess that's the point. It's not really meant to improve our experience but instead to further automate the process for the agencies and developers to make their lives easier. I can see I guess a need to address the independents that are not represented by an agency and perhaps that is the real driver. But is there another way?

Perhaps it would help those of us struggling on this point if SmoociApp explains in plain English why exactly this helps reduce fake bookings. I'm also not bothered by waiting an extra 10 min and I never found the real time tracking off or wished I knew 1-2 minutes earlier if my companion was at this intersection vs that intersection while en route.

To take a different tact, why couldn't the 'fake bookings' be reduced or eliminated equally well, if not better by, let's say, a registered user program. Perhaps we register via email and have the option to log in when making a booking. If you don't log in then you have the sms verification process but not if you're 'known' to smooci. Just a thought. I don't like that either but better.

Syzygies
03-21-17, 09:17
Thanks Smooci but I am not worried about waiting a few minutes or cancelling / amending a booking. Nor am I worried about the authorities. What I am worried about is that foreign SMSes are listed on my bill. The new SMS verification system seems to produce up to four individual SMSes per booking. Those will show up on my bill.

I think you guys have a great system but it is just a bit too revealing for my tastes. (Maybe I will get a SIM card at the airport.).Having a casual pay as you go Thai SIM for mongering is essential in my opinion, and good idea to have a separate small sized secure phone for it as well. No official records for back home. Keep it well hidden. If wife happened to find it, you could claim you found it, but have not been able to unlock it. LOL I keep some of my older phone handsets (e. G. Iphone 4) just in case need a spare one. I also have a Samsung dual SIM phone for general use, and a company iphone 6 for business use. Various SIM cards. Not sure if my old non-smartphone handsets still work in Thailand due to band frequency changes. The problem with those is cannot use LINE App to message girls. However may still have some uses.

Jaaxie
03-21-17, 09:48
Having a casual pay as you go Thai SIM for mongering is essential in my opinion, and good idea to have a separate small sized secure phone for it as well..Thanks for that advice, however if we're looking for maximum discretion having a device with you, in your possession, when not mongering is risky at best, marriage ending at worst. Renting it at the airport is a hassle, expensive and leaves a paper trail as well. Credit card security, extra fees if you go over your quota etc.

I thought one excellent selling point to a service such as Smooci was maximum discretion. Being able to play without having to 'pay' the consequences so to speak. Naive maybe. Anyway, it seems as I've said before that Smooci may simply not be for me anymore. Pity, was loving the concept.

SmoociApp
03-21-17, 17:31
That was exactly my point as well, although in my case authorities do in theory have real time access / monitoring of my sms even when traveling. That's not however my point. It is about privacy. Renting another phone seems to be the only available option to those of us that are bothered by this move, but why should I need to? On my last trip to BKK I expressly avoided using Smooci and booked companions without them. I'm not a techie and I just don't get the point. As I said in previous posts, the previous system worked well for ME. And I guess that's the point. It's not really meant to improve our experience but instead to further automate the process for the agencies and developers to make their lives easier. I can see I guess a need to address the independents that are not represented by an agency and perhaps that is the real driver. But is there another way?

Perhaps it would help those of us struggling on this point if SmoociApp explains in plain English why exactly this hellps reduce fake bookings. I'm also not bothered by waiting an extra 10 min and I never found the real time tracking off or wished I knew 1-2 minutes earlier if my companion was at this intersection vs that intersection while en route.

To take a different tact, why couldn't the 'fake bookings' be reduced or eliminated equally well, if not better by, let's say, a registered user program. Perhaps we register via email and have the option to log in when making a booking. If you don't log in then you have the sms verification process but not if you're 'known' to smooci. Just a thought. I don't like that either but better.An email verification isn't enough for us to verify a booking. We were receiving an enormous amount of fake bookings. This meant our bookings team have to manually call a hotel and check that a name matches a room in order to confirm the details and send them to the agency for their confirmation. Over 20% of the calls our bookings team made lead to false details. This also lead to a significant number of failed bookings, as our team were taking up to 15 minutes to confirm, and in that time a significant number of genuine bookings failed because the companion changed their availability or took another booking within that time. Switching to SMS has lowered fake bookings to under 4% and significantly decreased the booking confirmation time and hugely decreased the number of failed bookings.

There's certainly an element of helping the agencies and independents too. While we are developing Smooci with a concept of giving more power and control to the clients, we are also trying to help genuine service providers, and by making the system more convenient and doing more of the work for them it allows them to offer lower prices, which is another huge positive for the users / clients. And by giving these agency level tools to independents, it will help us to get a lot more freelancers onboard and give them the ability to work more proficiently and professionally. (we are getting close to launching the app for independents to work with us, I think we are about 4-6 weeks away).

We understand that verifying via SMS won't be for everyone, but it is an essential step in making Smooci a better platform and getting more agencies and companions on board, lowering the prices, and raising the standards. The switch to SMS is having a very positive effect, and the number of successful bookings has double in the last 3 weeks alone, and we have several new agencies wanting to come on board as well as a long list of freelancers who are eager to come on board.

For anyone not wanting to book through Smooci, you still have the option to use Smooci to search to see which companions are available and what services they offer, and then using the info on their profile you can search and contact their agency directly.

Bad Duck
03-21-17, 20:52
Suggestion: How about allow users to create accounts or verify their numbers with an OTP?


An email verification isn't enough for us to verify a booking. We were receiving an enormous amount of fake bookings. This meant our bookings team have to manually call a hotel and check that a name matches a room in order to confirm the details and send them to the agency for their confirmation. Over 20% of the calls our bookings team made lead to false details. This also lead to a significant number of failed bookings, as our team were taking up to 15 minutes to confirm, and in that time a significant number of genuine bookings failed because the companion changed their availability or took another booking within that time. Switching to SMS has lowered fake bookings to under 4% and significantly decreased the booking confirmation time and hugely decreased the number of failed bookings.

There's certainly an element of helping the agencies and independents too. While we are developing Smooci with a concept of giving more power and control to the clients, we are also trying to help genuine service providers, and by making the system more convenient and doing more of the work for them it allows them to offer lower prices, which is another huge positive for the users / clients..

SmoociApp
03-22-17, 03:24
Suggestion: How about allow users to create accounts or verify their numbers with an OTP?The current system is an OTP verification. We are also working on an option for accounts which should be ready within 4 weeks.

Syzygies
03-22-17, 04:44
Thanks for that advice, however if we're looking for maximum discretion having a device with you, in your possession, when not mongering is risky at best, marriage ending at worst. Renting it at the airport is a hassle, expensive and leaves a paper trail as well. Credit card security, extra fees if you go over your quota etc.

I thought one excellent selling point to a service such as Smooci was maximum discretion. Being able to play without having to 'pay' the consequences so to speak. Naive maybe. Anyway, it seems as I've said before that Smooci may simply not be for me anymore. Pity, was loving the concept.Since you are using escorts, I assume your wife is not with you in Thailand. So it is possible to buy a cheap 2nd hand phone. Buy a SIM and use these for duration in Thailand. Make sure phone has secure password. If have not got anywhere save to keep phone overseas, then sell it again at end of trip to 2nd hand phone shop.

Use cash for everything no paper trails.

I have a dual SIM phone. I could put a monger SIM in phone just temporary and at some point throw that SIM away again. Delete all suspicious messages. Do not give girls your non monger contact info.

However I believe a separate monger phone is safer. It can be wiped totally at some point with factory reset.

You could be keeping it as a spare in case main phone has a problem. I have several phone handsets. So extra spare phones is nothing strange. I don't see it as marriage ending to have spare phones as long as they have been wiped or no evidence is on them.

LINE account linked to monger SIM can be deleted at some point.

Various things are possible to remain quite safe providing wife is not physically with you. Just have to use a lot of thought to ensure lack of evidence. My monger phones have never had any paper trails. I don't use credit card for anything related mongering these days.

It is much harder to be safe when have a Thai GF actually in Thailand who is detective type. GF could search belongings. GF could ring you by video call and ask to show where you are at the time. So be careful about when to pick up calls and about reasons why phone could not be answered. Some places have no signal so can be best to turn off normal phone at times or switch to answering service.

Jaaxie
03-22-17, 04:45
An email verification isn't enough for us to verify a booking.OK. Presumably then we could use a virtual / online cell number to receive SMS? We'll receive the code / OTP & complete the booking. That would make some of us more comfortable using your services again. Maybe that's the alternative? Any problems with that?

WarmStone25
03-22-17, 18:04
Is there an app which could delete all references to Smooci and escorts from a smart phone?

Bad Duck
03-22-17, 21:28
Does smooci offer a cashless transaction option? CC DC etc?

Crocodilexp
03-23-17, 03:33
Is there an app which could delete all references to Smooci and escorts from a smart phone?

Use your browser's incognito mode.

If you already used the regular mode in the web browser, go to settings and delete the data / cache for the browser.

Then, delete any relevant SMS messages from the messaging app.

To be honest, unless you're fearful about law enforcement, other people shouldn't be accessing your phone anyway, so your question is a bit like "if I leave my front door unlocked and safe combination written on a post-it, what's the best place to hide my cash".

Danibbler
03-23-17, 03:37
For anyone not wanting to book through Smooci, you still have the option to use Smooci to search to see which companions are available and what services they offer, and then using the info on their profile you can search and contact their agency directly.

Yep, that's what I'll be doing barring getting a pay as you go Thai SIM card.

For me, if I was staying more than 3D2Ns, it's not a big deal to get a SIM card. It's even encouraged because it allows me to stay in touch without depending on the hotel's Wi-Fi and whatnot or when roaming about BKK and depending on the map.

Danibbler
03-23-17, 03:40
OK. Presumably then we could use a virtual / online cell number to receive SMS? We'll receive the code / OTP & complete the booking. That would make some of us more comfortable using your services again. Maybe that's the alternative? Any problems with that?This is going to make things a lot more technical. Trust me, it's not worth the hassle when things get too tech-dependent.

Tiandihui
03-23-17, 05:10
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Arthur Tick
03-24-17, 23:35
An email verification isn't enough for us to verify a booking. We were receiving an enormous amount of fake bookings. This meant our bookings team have to manually call a hotel and check that a name matches a room in order to confirm the details and send them to the agency for their confirmation. Over 20% of the calls our bookings team made lead to false details. This also lead to a significant number of failed bookings, as our team were taking up to 15 minutes to confirm, and in that time a significant number of genuine bookings failed because the companion changed their availability or took another booking within that time. Switching to SMS has lowered fake bookings to under 4% and significantly decreased the booking confirmation time and hugely decreased the number of failed bookings.

There's certainly an element of helping the agencies and independents too. While we are developing Smooci with a concept of giving more power and control to the clients, we are also trying to help genuine service providers, and by making the system more convenient and doing more of the work for them it allows them to offer lower prices, which is another huge positive for the users / clients. And by giving these agency level tools to independents, it will help us to get a lot more freelancers onboard and give them the ability to work more proficiently and professionally. (we are getting close to launching the app for independents to work with us, I think we are about 4-6 weeks away).

We understand that verifying via SMS won't be for everyone, but it is an essential step in making Smooci a better platform and getting more agencies and companions on board, lowering the prices, and raising the standards. The switch to SMS is having a very positive effect, and the number of successful bookings has double in the last 3 weeks alone, and we have several new agencies wanting to come on board as well as a long list of freelancers who are eager to come on board.

For anyone not wanting to book through Smooci, you still have the option to use Smooci to search to see which companions are available and what services they offer, and then using the info on their profile you can search and contact their agency directly.Hi Smooci.

Is there any hope in the not so distant future that Smooci may provide a service for Chiang Mai? I mean girls that are based in Chiang Mai or close to the city that do not have to be ordered up from Bangkok or other parts of Thailand. Considering the increasing numbers of expats settling in CM every year, I am sure there would be demand for your service here, me included.

SmoociApp
03-25-17, 16:51
Hi Smooci.

Is there any hope in the not so distant future that Smooci may provide a service for Chiang Mai? I mean girls that are based in Chiang Mai or close to the city that do not have to be ordered up from Bangkok or other parts of Thailand. Considering the increasing numbers of expats settling in CM every year, I am sure there would be demand for your service here, me included.We are about 4-6 weeks away from being able to undergo our first expansion, which will be to Singapore. Once that is complete we will be in a position to allow our Thai team to expand locally, to places such as Pattaya, Phuket, and CHiang Mai. We can't put any definitive time frame on it, though we are hopefully that local Thai expansion will be possible in about 3 months time.

HorseTrader
03-25-17, 18:43
Perhaps I missed this discussion elsewhere, but there are two things that concern me with the Smooci girls (and other Bangkok escorts).

It would be good if we knew where they are based for cases where time is limited. There will also be nights when I need to stay near the airport and it would be good to know which girls can quickly travel there. Likewise, when I'm staying near Soi Cowboy, I don't want to request a girl that is based near the airport. Bangkok is a big city and rush hour traffic is nasty.

The other thing is language skills. My Thai almost doesn't exist and I would much prefer a girl that speaks a little English. Having that information would be good for many of us.

Arthur Tick
03-26-17, 02:03
We are about 4-6 weeks away from being able to undergo our first expansion, which will be to Singapore. Once that is complete we will be in a position to allow our Thai team to expand locally, to places such as Pattaya, Phuket, and CHiang Mai. We can't put any definitive time frame on it, though we are hopefully that local Thai expansion will be possible in about 3 months time.Thank you. When us deprived lot in Chiang Mai are concerned, for me seeing is believing. If it happens it happens but I won't hold my breath on this one. We will see if what you say holds true.

FormulaOneFan
03-26-17, 02:41
Glad to hear you're expanding to Singapore. I've had hit or miss experiences in S'pore booking through agencies.

SmoociApp
04-03-17, 11:52
We have now launched our user photo verification system, which should go some way to help tackle the photoshopping issue.

Ultimately the system will remove photos which are heavily photoshopped and inaccurate, and highlight photos which are deemed accurate by the users.

Please read more about it in our blog http://blog.smooci.com/post/photo-verification.

Kimi1
04-04-17, 16:17
Just a suggestion. I like the rating system. Would be perhaps better if you could also put how many individual reviews each girl has gotten.

So for eg. Poppy is rated 5.0 and say Patty is ranked 4. 6. However if Patty has more reviews (users? Than Poppy I would be inclined to book Patty with the lower ratings.

A bit like how Amazon shows number of reviewers.

P. S if you don't want to show the number of exact users perhaps you could have slots like 10+ reviews. 50+ reviews.

P. P. S in anycase. I like the service. Already getting some friends to use it as well!

Felrops
04-04-17, 18:13
I agree with Kimi1. A score of 4.6 based on reviews by 15 punters is more relevant than a score of 5.0 by 3 punters.

SmoociApp
04-05-17, 07:55
Just a suggestion. I like the rating system. Would be perhaps better if you could also put how many individual reviews each girl has gotten.

So for eg. Poppy is rated 5.0 and say Patty is ranked 4. 6. However if Patty has more reviews (users? Than Poppy I would be inclined to book Patty with the lower ratings.

A bit like how Amazon shows number of reviewers.

P. S if you don't want to show the number of exact users perhaps you could have slots like 10+ reviews. 50+ reviews.

P. P. S in anycase. I like the service. Already getting some friends to use it as well!This is something very much in our plans and we are close to being able to release a way to read all reviews and see number of reviews (which we will display as 3 to 30+ with any number of reviews over 30 being represented as 30+).

Presidio
04-16-17, 07:25
One other additional piece of info that would be helpful would be to state whether the ladies have natural or enhanced breasts.

Syzygies
04-16-17, 19:26
One other additional piece of info that would be helpful would be to state whether the ladies have natural or enhanced breasts.Most or some of the agencies are specifying this, at least sometimes. Even when natural is stated, I still remain sceptical if the shape is strange, such as markedly convex curve on the upper surface to the nipple, when wearing no bra. This almost never happens in real tits. The convex curve is underneath the nipple.

If you want this, piece of information re the tits, then logically she should state if she has a modified nose, if she ever had a baby, has any silicone in the ass or face, has any stretch marks, has any operation scars from Caesarian-section or otherwise, any accident scars, etc. Etc. I could get more and more ridiculous. I would also like to have nude pics from all angles guaranteed not shopped and recent. LOL.

Even if was stated she has enhancements, they could be superb quality or horrible botched job. Tits is not necessarily the most important aspect of the body, at least for me. I would rather know if she likes big cock. Just kidding! Others would want to know the baby damage. A lot of Escort girls are not that young. Right?

My point is really which information is practical, can it be verified easily, and where does it stop? Taking an escort is a big gamble largely based on services supposedly provided and looks possibly not shown honestly.

I remember once meeting a Thai girl who was topless and denied having implants. It was absolutely clear that she did have implants to me, and I did touch them. Why she thought guys would believe they were natural was a big mystery.

A girl at Crazy House initially denied having a nose job. Many months later she finally admitted the Op, because she was such an honest person. LOL It was a good one, but still detectable.

Don't get me wrong. I would want to avoid girls with silicones as well, which is most of them. I don't want to pay good money for an artificial constructed girl. Seems that most customers do like highly modified girls. It is probably not Smooci's role to police all aspects of the girl's specs. She will probably provide what information she wants to provide. Are we even guaranteed to get the real age of the girl? I don't really see how Smooci can easily verify all aspects of the data pertaining to the girl.

The ratings system is partly about whether the girl met her specifications or not, right? And partly about her service.

If I was selecting a girl via Smooci, I would certainly search for all possible info on her to reduce chances of a wrong selection. I would hope the photos are recent and show whether there is a strong chance of silicones.

Would be interesting to know how Smooci verifies who escort girls are and if they are genuine and like what they claim rather than tricksters. Perhaps rely on Escort Agencies for some girls.

Johann2
04-17-17, 03:19
Re what Syzygies posted, this is why going with a reliable dependable agency is almost always the best way to do things. You get to talk to a real person and most importantly, you are able to build relationships, establish rapport. That is why this route is the most expensive because if done right on both sides then it delivers the best results time and time again. You pay well and you can tell them every little thing that you want. You can even make a list specifying exactly what you want and have them contact you if / when someone fits the profile. They get paid, you get serviced. Quite difficult to locate a good agency but it's worth it to try and track one down.

Or if you can speak some Thai and can make some friends, get a trusted local to help you out. I find this the absolute best way to do things especially if you pay them well. This is also quite difficult if they are truly just a regular local but it is worth it. You get to make two new friends and have a little fun as well.

EihTooms
04-17-17, 07:40
Re what Syzygies posted, this is why going with a reliable dependable agency is almost always the best way to do things. You get to talk to a real person and most importantly, you are able to build relationships, establish rapport. That is why this route is the most expensive because if done right on both sides then it delivers the best results time and time again. You pay well and you can tell them every little thing that you want. You can even make a list specifying exactly what you want and have them contact you if / when someone fits the profile. They get paid, you get serviced. Quite difficult to locate a good agency but it's worth it to try and track one down. One bit of infornation included in the girls' profiles on Smooci that somewhat addresses what you mentioned is they identify the agency the girl works for and the general rating that agency has earned. I presume issues like reliability and quality of service are factored into that rating.

Of course, that still doesn't offer any assurance whatsoever that a girl with a Smooci customer rating of 4. 7 Stars who works for an escort agency with a rating of 4. 6 Stars won't turn out to be a disappointing, time and money-wasting dud with you, me or the next guy once the door closes behind you in the room. But I suppose it improves the chances that she won't be one.

Imo, until and unless Smooci makes it virtually impossible for a customer about to select and book a girl and again later when asked to give a Star rating for the experience he just had NOT to see and read all 5 criteria Smooci has determined are reasonable guidelines for awarding 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5 Stars and that awarding 0 Stars doesn't count at all up or down, then too many of those Star ratings are naturally going to reflect all kinds of willy-nilly impressions and responses not remotely consistent and far too subjective to be a very reliable source of information to tbe next fellow.

SmoociApp
04-17-17, 08:06
One other additional piece of info that would be helpful would be to state whether the ladies have natural or enhanced breasts.We haven't added this into our filter / profiles as it's very difficult for us to verify this info. From what we've researched and experienced most girls tend to claim to have natural breasts even when they have implants, as having implants is seen as a negative.

We will be adding a premium membership option around the end of the month and giving users the ability to see all the comments, see if photos are Smooci verified, as well as giving the ability to book up to 24 hours in advance. This will help give users even more raw info and greater control over their experience.

Regarding companion verification. At the moment we have only allowed agency companions on board and have been quite selective about who we take on, verifying the agencies rather than the individual companions. Once we allow independents / freelancers on board and start expanding we will be relying on the rating system and photo verification in order to verify companions and remove those that aren't offering a high enough level of service. We will also be using ID verification on all companions, which means we can verify the age and sex of the companion, and make it difficult for banned companions to rejoin under a different name.

Syzygies
04-17-17, 09:51
Or if you can speak some Thai and can make some friends, get a trusted local to help you out. I find this the absolute best way to do things especially if you pay them well. This is also quite difficult if they are truly just a regular local but it is worth it. You get to make two new friends and have a little fun as well."help you out" ?

Can you explain why Thai language helps? How does a trusted local "help you out"? I don't quite understand what sort of local with what special knowledge? Are you referring to just making private bookings with girls instead of Escorts, or girls not with an agency? Or somehow getting help to book an Escort? Your post seems rather unclear to me.

You are allowed to use plain direct language here like "getting a fuck".

Syzygies
04-17-17, 10:14
Imo, until and unless Smooci makes it virtually impossible for a customer about to select and book a girl and again later when asked to give a Star rating for the experience he just had NOT to see and read all 5 criteria Smooci has determined are reasonable guidelines for awarding 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5 Stars and that awarding 0 Stars doesn't count at all up or down, then too many of those Star ratings are naturally going to reflect all kinds of willy-nilly impressions and responses not remotely consistent and far too subjective to be a very reliable source of information to tbe next fellow.ET, could you make this a little less convoluted, so can be understood without effort and lengthy analysis? I could apply logical algebraic transformation rules to it. LOL So many negatives in same sentence, 'unless', 'impossible', 'NOT', "too many", "willy nilly", "not", "far too", etc. I suppose we can guess where the meaning lies as you have mentioned it before, so no worries. Can I just encourage shorter sentences for your next post, to assist my lazy brain, getting too old.

I think we can all agree that a girl needs to be rated on several different factors, and perhaps to see the range of ratings and critical comments, like a Trip advisor rating LOL. Did she look like her Photos or not? Did she provide all offered services? What was her attitude like? What was her face like? Body like?

I know though that Banana Boi has different taste to me, so his 10 for looks might be a 6 for me, and visa versa. I accept the need to see the range of votes and perhaps to know the average scores each reviewer gives. A known optimist could score all girls as 9 or 10's that I might give only 6's or 7's to.

The ratings area, is certainly scope for future improvement, to make them as meaningful as possible. I agree a single rating for a girl does not really help massively. Number of reviewers could help a little. Lowest and highest ratings could help slightly, to show if there is large disagreement or consensus.

WarmStone25
04-17-17, 15:47
Rating.

The Smooci rating system will never be perfect and guarantee a good session. If the number of reviews for each escort is indicated and feedback is given about whether or not users of the service had the impression that the photos were realistic. Then the rating system will provide something useful in addition to what is provided by the agencies.

If the average rating given is 3. 9 then more ratings have been given at 4 than 3. Or if the average rating given is 3. 1 then more ratings have been given at 3 than 4.

Photos provided by agencies can be 10 or more years out of date as can the ages that are given.

Some kind of feed back system is required. This kind of system is not available for bar girls or free lancers. Even if the language barrier is surmounted an encounter a with a friendly bar girl does not mean that you will not get a starfish performance in the room.

My experience of booking escorts is that I could not trust the descriptions given by the agencies. I had seen an escorts photos on an other well known Bangkok blog. She appeared to be about ten years older than the photos given by an agency. I decided to go with the Smooci rating system. I choose girls with good ratings. This resulted in two good sessions. One girl was a little older than the photos and the other better than the photos. I gave both girls good ratings for good application and good attitude.

If the Smooci rating system evolves into something which is not over complex and easy to use then it could be a useful tool. For many people it could make picking up girls in bars or elsewhere redundant. For such people it would be preferable to meet a girl in the cool and safety of their own room rather than venture onto the hot, sticky streets of Bangkok. Or on entering a bar to endure the hassle to buy drinks and pleadings to got to a room. Indeed, could such tools contribute to the slow decline of the bar industry as it is overtaken by more modern business models?

EihTooms
04-17-17, 17:00
ET, could you make this a little less convoluted, so can be understood without effort and lengthy analysis? I could apply logical algebraic transformation rules to it. LOL So many negatives in same sentence, 'unless', 'impossible', 'NOT', "too many", "willy nilly", "not", "far too", etc. I suppose we can guess where the meaning lies as you have mentioned it before, so no worries. Can I just encourage shorter sentences for your next post, to assist my lazy brain, getting too old.

I think we can all agree that a girl needs to be rated on several different factors, and perhaps to see the range of ratings and critical comments, like a Trip advisor rating LOL. Did she look like her Photos or not? Did she provide all offered services? What was her attitude like? What was her face like? Body like?

I know though that Banana Boi has different taste to me, so his 10 for looks might be a 6 for me, and visa versa. I accept the need to see the range of votes and perhaps to know the average scores each reviewer gives. A known optimist could score all girls as 9 or 10's that I might give only 6's or 7's to.

The ratings area, is certainly scope for future improvement, to make them as meaningful as possible. I agree a single rating for a girl does not really help massively. Number of reviewers could help a little. Lowest and highest ratings could help slightly, to show if there is large disagreement or consensus.Ok, I'll be more direct. Smooci should include a page containing all 5 of their useful and well thought out criteria for a girl earning a 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5 Star rating immediately after the first page on their website, the Request a Date page.

Then, in the followup email asking the finished customer to submit a Star rating for the girl / experience, all 5 of those criteria should again be included on the exact same email page asking him to submit a Star rating.

That is the best and most effective way for Smooci to make sure the browsing customers know what a Star rating likely represents before booking a girl and what their Star rating for the girl they just sessioned with ought to represent as well.

Expecting browsing customers to click on the word "blog" to find and review those 5 criteria won't do it. Expecting finished customers to click on a link in the followup email in order to find those 5 criteria won't do it either.

I realize it would still not guarrantee that a loony customer won't give a 5 Star rating to a girl simply because she reminded him physically of his high school sweetheart and despite the fact that she adamantly refused to engage in DFK, CIM, BBBJ and even Full Service as indicated she would engage in on her profile. But there is little chance of there being any consistancy at all unless those 5 criteria are as known and familiar to every Smooci customer as the difference between choosing a Female escort and a Ladyboy escort.

Member #4591
04-17-17, 17:45
This thread has a lot of members complaining about the Smooci rating system but most of the complainers haven't used the service. Myself being one of the guilty parties who haven't tried. Might I suggest some of you use the service and let us know if the girl matched her rating. I was supposed to try the service out last month but they did not deliver to my area. I plan to book a hotel in the Sukhumvit area soon and test them out. Come on guys, take one for the team and report. I'll do the same shortly and then we can all compare notes.

WarmStone25
04-17-17, 18:14
Personal rating.

An encounter with an escort, bar girl or free lancer is a personal and emotional experience. Each person will weight the criteria and apply his own criteria according to how he feels at the time.

The Smoocii guide to rating should be taken as a guide and not a definitive formula. There is no formula that can describe an individuals emotions. It is pointless to argue that the system is not of any use unless it is consistently applied. As customers we are not consistent because we are emotional beings. The escorts that I booked did not do CIM or BBBJ. I did not mark them down for this because it did not matter to me. Other people would have insisted on this and marked them down if they did not provide this service. My feeling at the time is that they had satisfied my needs and matched the rating that they already had, so I in turn gave them a good rating. If the rating system is developed as it should be, you should be able to look at an escort with a good rating and think that there is a good chance of a successful encounter. The rating system can give no guarantee of this but at least you have some feed back and it would better than taking pot luck in the bar.

EihTooms
04-17-17, 18:48
This thread has a lot of members complaining about the Smooci rating system but most of the complainers haven't used the service. Myself being one of the guilty parties who haven't tried. Might I suggest some of you use the service and let us know if the girl matched her rating. I was supposed to try the service out last month but they did not deliver to my area. I plan to book a hotel in the Sukhumvit area soon and test them out. Come on guys, take one for the team and report. I'll do the same shortly and then we can all compare notes.I understand what you mean, Bkkdog. But I must say the reason I have not tried it myself yet is precisely because of the issue I have raised a couple of times already here and elsewhere. I have read too many Field Reports on these sites with Smooci users giving a girl a good or better review despite her not delivering on some critical (to me) service that the customer tried to engage her in but she wasn't having it. Additionally, I have "participated" in two different Smooci bookings and followup Star ratings with a couple of visiting friends to see what a typical Smooci experience is like. Other than the actual sex in the room, that is. LOL. By that I mean I followed along while the guys booked their girls and then rated them afterwards. In both cases, the guys had no idea there was even a Smooci list of 5 Star rating guidelines criteria on which those girls' Star ratings could have and should have been based and that they could have and WOULD have followed those guidelines had they known about them. But they didn't know about them.

Consequently, each guy gave his girl a 4 Star rating even though they were annoyed that neither girl was willing to engage in simple DFK (which each girl said was part of the deal in her profile). And one of the girls did not deliver a requested BBBJ+CIM as indicated she would in her profile. One girl got a high rating from the guy because she begged him to give her a high rating on the way out the door. The other guy gave his girl a high rating because he thought she was cute. In each case, the guy said he never would have given his girl a rating higher than a 3 and maybe not even that high if he had known those 5 Star Rating Guidelines existed on the Smooci site and therefore would have known that "did not perform stated services" was a major reason for giving those girls either a 1 or 2 Star rating and not higher.

That is why I have time and again suggested Smooci put their 5 Star rating guideline criteria smack in the face of the booking customers and the customers asked in the followup email to submit a rating for the girl they just sessioned with. Otherwise, the whole concept of paying these girls to actually PERFORM the services they promise in their profiles and then giving them a fair rating according to whether they did or did not PERFORM those services (if asked for or attempted by the customer, of course) is a moot point and the Star Rating system is utterly useless. Even counterproductive.

The Smooci Star Rating Guidelines, which apparently Smooci would like to keep hidden as an Easter Egg as of this writing, is very big on whether or not the girl actually PERFORMED the services promised. That is what I find valuable about the idea of it. Instead, I read review after review and worry after worry over whether or not the Star Rating system accurately reflects how the girl looks. Really, guys? The girl not looking attractive enough to fuck her or get blown by her is one of the easiest and least costly and uncomfortable factors to deal with when booking a girl through Smooci. If the girl shows up and looks so unattractive and so unlike her Smooci profile pics that you cannot fathom spending 3,000+ baht to fuck her or get blown by her, you hand her 50-100 baht for taxi fare, tell her this wasn't what you had in mind and thank her for her time and mini line-up. Ok, if it gets as far as her undressing before you realize she really misled you with those photo-shopped profile pics, you hand her 100-150 baht for taxi fare and her time.

As uncomfortable as that might sound, believe me it is no where near as costly and uncomfortable as being 40 minutes into a session with a girl who said on her profile that she will deliver a BBBJ+CIM only to find out at the moment of completion she really meant a Hand Job with some oral foreplay thrown in. Oh, and, btw, now that Handjob has cost you 3,000+ baht. LOL.

EihTooms
04-17-17, 19:09
Personal rating.

An encounter with an escort, bar girl or free lancer is a personal and emotional experience. Each person will weight the criteria and apply his own criteria according to how he feels at the time.

The Smoocii guide to rating should be taken as a guide and not a definitive formula. There is no formula that can describe an individuals emotions. It is pointless to argue that the system is not of any use unless it is consistently applied. As customers we are not consistent because we are emotional beings. The escorts that I booked did not do CIM or BBBJ. I did not mark them down for this because it did not matter to me. Other people would have insisted on this and marked them down if they did not provide this service. My feeling at the time is that they had satisfied my needs and matched the rating that they already had, so I in turn gave them a good rating. If the rating system is developed as it should be, you should be able to look at an escort with a good rating and think that there is a good chance of a successful encounter. The rating system can give no guarantee of this but at least you have some feed back and it would better than taking pot luck in the bar.Yes, but here is the problem with that. Smooci actually does have a Star Ratings Guidelines list on their website that in at least 3 of the 5 criteria guidelines quite literally factors in whether or not the girl actually did perform the services listed in her profile and expected (asked for?) by the customer. It isn't nearly as "subjective" or "personal" as your idea of why a customer would rate a girl highly or not. And I for one think that lack of subjectivity is a very good thing, one of the best things about the whole Smooci Star Rating concept, in fact. True, as I have pointed out, Smooci makes it all too easy for their booking customers and Star rating customers to miss seeing those guidelines and they really need to make sure they are pushed into the faces of everyone visiting that site and everyone about to submit a Star Rating afterwards (no, a link to the area on their website on the followup email is not enough).

But the fact remains those Star Rating Guidelines are right there on the Smooci website where customers book the girls.

That being the case, a browsing customer who has read those guidelines and is about to book a girl through Smooci based on her Star Rating has every reason to expect that 4. 6 Star Rating she has received likely means she is quite consistent about actually PERFORMING the services stated on her profile and not 90% based on how she looks when you swing open the hotel room door or whether or not the five guys before him happened to strike an interesting or sympathetic chemistry with the girl despite her unwillingness to deliver 2-3 of the services she promoted on her profile.

Sure, if you didn't even ask for the services that the girl didn't perform for you and you were still satisfied with the outcome, why not give her a high rating. But if you did ask for them and she refused or just ignored you, then that is why the guidelines exist and you should have given her a low rating for it. They aren't guidelines for determining whether or not you "liked" the girl or were "satisfied" with the experience despite her not delivering services you asked for as stated on her profile. I am sure Smooci understands that whether or not and why a customer "liked" the girl cannot be rated or extrapolated to the next customer exactly. They are largely objective ratings guidelines on whether or not her pics accurately enough reflected how she looks and whether or not she delivered the services promised when asked for them. That's all. Brutally objective, perhaps. And that is what is unique and best about the Smooci Star Rating concept as laid out in those guidelines.

Gas Can
04-18-17, 01:16
Hello, I will be in Bangkok on business this June and plan on using your service. I understand that you require some type of SMS verification prior to booking a girl. My question is what programs or apps do you use? I currently have a Viber and WhatsApp account I've used extensively in Europe. Are these adequate for verification and communication in Thailand?

Thanks.

Tiandihui
04-18-17, 05:39
Its just a guideline and is very subjective and may be personal to some.

An apple to one and is a cactus to others.

Nothing can't be so precise and cater to every one differently.

EihTooms
04-18-17, 22:18
Its just a guideline and is very subjective and may be personal to some.

An apple to one and is a cactus to others.

Nothing can't be so precise and cater to every one differently.Have you read Smooci's Star Rating Guidelines on their website? Has anyone else here read them? LOL. I would say there is almost nothing subjective about them other than what one makes of the term "attitude", which is mentioned once in I believe 4 of the 5 rating explanations.

The Guidelines are not even introduced by Smooci as "suggestions", "starting points", or "something to consider. " Smooci knows very well what their unique Star Rating system is and is not about. Anyone reading it would know immediately those Star Ratings are not about whether the customer "liked" the girl or had "chemistry" with her.

Perhaps they should have used the word "Report" instead of "Rating". Because that is much closer to what they are asking the customer to do; Report on whether or not the girl's pics accurately represented her in person and, quite literally, did she or did she not perform the services stated on her profile. There is not one word about how the customer "felt" about her otherwise.

Smooci, at least at the time of determining what niche in the market needed filling and therefore drawing up those remarkably objective 5 Star Rating Guidelines, knew and understood exactly what kind of communication was missing and therefore ought to be conveyed by their Stars. Namely, a means to report to the next potential escort customers if the girl actually looked anything like her pics and if the girl actually delivered the services she listed and said she would deliver. They are asking us to participate in a truth in advertizing statement, not an opportunity to share the joy and wonder of newfound inexplicable love.

It is entirely fitting within the Smooci Star Rating system that a customer could fall head over heels in love with the sight and feel of his girl, have the most thrilling sexual experience of his life simply because it was with her yet truthfully give her a Smooci Star Rating (Report) of 2 because she pursed her lips and turned her head this way and that when he tried to DFK her and she made an icky face and ignored his request to engage in a BBBJ, both of which were listed on her profile.

Sure, the customer can and I am sure some will reject Smooci's blatantly obvious mission with that rating system. I just wish Smooci would make a more concerted effort to have those guidelines read by the customer before booking and again before rating so the system would have a much better shot at representing this unique and very useful purpose.

Johann2
04-19-17, 00:32
"help you out" ?

Can you explain why Thai language helps? How does a trusted local "help you out"? I don't quite understand what sort of local with what special knowledge? Are you referring to just making private bookings with girls instead of Escorts, or girls not with an agency? Or somehow getting help to book an Escort? Your post seems rather unclear to me.

You are allowed to use plain direct language here like "getting a fuck".Yes, I was vaguely hinting at something. It is much more than getting laid though. I wanted to hint at and encourage developing actual friendships and letting things flow from there if possible. This probably isn't an option for everyone but this is that win-win situation that Stephen Covey exhorts. I have had friends take care of me and ensure I wasn't lonely in some places I've gone when I was able to have meaningful relationships with them. Many here seek beautiful girls. Well, this is also what the locals seek as well and they have much better access than we do. It has been my experience that when they see someone bringing value and honor to themselves and Thailand then they want to keep you happy. And they don't mind sharing their treasures with you especially if you speak their language and show a love of their way of life / culture.

This may not be the right place for this but I just feel this is a good way to go about things. And the more people with a genuine interest to improve the country the better.

WarmStone25
04-19-17, 13:11
The Guidelines are not even introduced by Smooci as "suggestions", "starting points", or "something to consider. " Smooci knows very well what their unique Star Rating system is and is not about. Anyone reading it would know immediately those Star Ratings are not about whether the customer "liked" the girl or had "chemistry" with her.
.The phrase "For example" is used which indicates that what follows is not comprehensive or definitive.

Syzygies
04-19-17, 14:22
This may not be the right place for this but I just feel this is a good way to go about things. And the more people with a genuine interest to improve the country the better.Yes we are in the wrong thread. This thread should relate to the Smooci web site bookings, and any difficulties with that.

This is primarily a forum about getting sex, however would be good to have some threads that branch from the sex topic, I guess. Escorts don't provide sex only, however it is very much a paid transaction counting hours. This forum Escort Thread is not really about tour guide Escorts, or dinner companions, typically.

EihTooms
04-19-17, 14:33
The phrase "For example" is used which indicates that what follows is not comprehensive or definitive.Yes, and what follows "For example" is virtually without exception an issue of Truth in Advertising with regard to the accuracy of the pics and / or delivering on the services promised; "2 Stars: . For example, the appearance and / or hygiene of the companion was far from what was expected, the services were not as promised and for no acceptable reason, and / or the attitude or actions of the companion were disappointing, and with nothing notably positive to report, this would warrant a 2-star review. ".

If a Smooci customer "liked", was "satisfied with" or otherwise still enjoyed his experience with a girl despite her obvious refusal to perform in earnest a key service or two listed on her profile and asked for by the customer, there are plenty of other ways for him to reward her for that "Yeah, but I still liked her anyway" result. He could give her a big tip on the way out. He could book her again ASAP. He could book her every day afterwards for the next month. He could ask for her Line ID and start dating her on the side. Maybe marry her. Many, many other ways for him to reward her for the nice "chemistry" or whatever.

Why in the world must his approval of her also extend to lying to the Smooci customers that book her afterwards about her performance of those services by giving her a 4 or 5 Star Rating and thereby clearly and strongly convey the false impression that she DID perform the services as promised when she didn't?

I don't see any hidden messages tucked in between the lines on those Smooci Star Rating Guidelines that covers the "Yeah, but I still liked her anyway" option. Thank gawd. Well, #4 is a little soft in that way. But not if taken in context of the other four criteria which are very strong on performance of the services/truth in advertising. The unique and eminently valuable and useful aspect of the Smooci Star Rating system is that it is virtually all about monitoring the performance of the girls re the accuracy of their pics and delivery (or not) of their promised services. Other Escort-related services offer feedback methods for the smitten customer to rhapsodize about how charming or beguiling this or that escort was. Smooci's Star Rating system as clearly laid out in their Guidelines isn't about that.

Frankly, that is the reason I hope they never add a customer essay-style feedback option. Sure as the world those go-with-the-flow, roll-over, low demand, apologist customers will start making their heartfelt case for why an escort earned a high score based on junk that has nothing to do with the fact that she promised a BBBJ+CIM and came nowhere near providing one at crunch time. And then other customers will read that crap, might NOT ever see those Smooci Star Rating Guidelines (hidden as an Easter Egg on their site as it is) and off we go down the road to more crappy service with a smile, something the P4P industry in Bangkok or anywhere else definitely does not need more of, imo.

SmoociApp
04-21-17, 08:33
Hello, I will be in Bangkok on business this June and plan on using your service. I understand that you require some type of SMS verification prior to booking a girl. My question is what programs or apps do you use? I currently have a Viber and WhatsApp account I've used extensively in Europe. Are these adequate for verification and communication in Thailand?

Thanks.You would need to put in an active phone number. An OTP would be sent to the number in order to confirm the booking, and further notifications to track your companion once they start their journey to you, and a review link once the booking is complete.

Johann2
04-22-17, 22:06
Yes we are in the wrong thread. This thread should relate to the Smooci web site bookings, and any difficulties with that.I'm not in the wrong area as far as I know. I was responding to your question.

My original point was in response to another poster regarding his overall opinion on Smooci and again the point is that escort agencies almost always are the better way to go. As others have mentioned, the feedback Star system is one of many issues with Smooci's approach. And I hardly see any posts related to bookings, it more consists of critiques of Smooci itself. Otherwise, everyone is in the wrong thread.

Johann2
04-22-17, 22:19
At 33 EihTooms. In my experience, people love to complain far more than they praise. So, I would be in favor of an essay style feedback option. Most people are skeptical anyway and will ignore the positive reviews. They will go straight to the negative ones. I know I always do this when ordering online because I know fake reviews are just so common and much more so in this business.

What Smooci could do though is put a word limit as well as have tags that the customer can click that assess if the customer received what was requested when the booking was made. For example, the system would have ticks for BBBJ or CIM or whatever and then when the review is being completed after the session, there are prompts / boxes to again assess whether what was initially requested actually performed satisfactorily. There could be boxes for "Was photo accurate?" or any number of other things. Thereafter, customers could write their own personal feedback. Airbnb has something similar to this and I think it is great. It makes the review process much more efficient.

SmoociApp
04-23-17, 12:18
I'm not in the wrong area as far as I know. I was responding to your question.

My original point was in response to another poster regarding his overall opinion on Smooci and again the point is that escort agencies almost always are the better way to go. As others have mentioned, the feedback Star system is one of many issues with Smooci's approach. And I hardly see any posts related to bookings, it more consists of critiques of Smooci itself. Otherwise, everyone is in the wrong thread.We work with trusted agencies in Bangkok and when booking through Smooci we give you direct contact with the agency. You have the opportunity to send special requests and speak directly to the agency / companion before booking starts. If you have a strong preference to book directly with an agency you can also use our platform to search lots of the best agencies in one place, seeing which companions are available for your booking and reviewing their performance on the site, and then contact the agency directly outside of our system. So ultimately you can take advantage of some of our features without having to complete your booking through our system.

We have been careful with regards to which agencies we've accepted on board, and we've rejected several Bangkok agencies who contacted us but didn't have a good enough reputation. Smooci isn't a rival to Escort agencies (not to the good ones at least), our concept is simply set up to create more openness and give the users a more informed choice, fairer pricing, and more control over their experience. The system is set out to reward the agencies and companions who offer genuine and high levels of service, and expose the agencies and companions who hide behind glossy ads and sites without delivering.

Please don't confuse the discussions here as to indicating that there are problems with the rating system and other aspects of our platform. The purpose of this thread was to work with the community here in order to improve the system and shape it to the needs of the clients, so we very much encourage the criticism and suggestions on how to improve. The feedback we are getting is extremely positive and the system is working better than expected. We have already secured major partnerships in several key regions outside of Thailand, and we are getting close to some exciting new additions and the ability to allow independents on to our platform.

Johann2
04-23-17, 23:54
Please don't confuse the discussions here as to indicating that there are problems with the rating system and other aspects of our platform. The purpose of this thread was to work with the community here in order to improve the system and shape it to the needs of the clients, so we very much encourage the criticism and suggestions on how to improve. The feedback we are getting is extremely positive and the system is working better than expected.
This thread has a lot of members complaining about the Smooci rating system but most of the complainers haven't used the service.It's good to stay positive especially since it's your business but it is pretty obvious the feedback here has been mostly critical.

I just hope you and your team are taking notes and honestly trying to address these concerns. I, for one, would like to try it but it just isn't where it needs to be yet for me to join. As you correctly stated, you are not challenging good agencies at all, that much is very clear. But that should be your goal, shouldn't it? Go big or go home. Just that admittance itself lessens my interest in your venture although the honesty is appreciated.

Like I mentioned Dr. Covey earlier it goes back to achieving a win-win situation. I'm a big proponent of the agencies that do a wonderful job and pay them well for this. If I am to invest my time and capital in your business then I want to invest in the best or those who seek to be the best as I do in my endeavors. Anyway, that's my two cents for whatever it's worth. I'll be interested to see how things work out after a couple of months.

SmoociApp
04-24-17, 11:50
It's good to stay positive especially since it's your business but it is pretty obvious the feedback here has been mostly critical.

I just hope you and your team are taking notes and honestly trying to address these concerns. I, for one, would like to try it but it just isn't where it needs to be yet for me to join. As you correctly stated, you are not challenging good agencies at all, that much is very clear. But that should be your goal, shouldn't it? Go big or go home. Just that admittance itself lessens my interest in your venture although the honesty is appreciated.

Like I mentioned Dr. Covey earlier it goes back to achieving a win-win situation. I'm a big proponent of the agencies that do a wonderful job and pay them well for this. If I am to invest my time and capital in your business then I want to invest in the best or those who seek to be the best as I do in my endeavors. Anyway, that's my two cents for whatever it's worth. I'll be interested to see how things work out after a couple of months.I think you are twisting our words or have misread / misunderstood. We are most definitely challenging ALL agencies which come onto our platform, which is clear with the ratings, photo verification, and even the GPS tracking. No one is given any special treatment and all scores, comments, and photo ratings are left unedited. Each and every agency on our platform is made to take responsibility for their performance and service, as well as their advertisements / profile. And by doing that it is rewarding the good agencies and helping us to weed out the bad ones. In that way we very much agree with you, and our concept is to highlight the agencies and companions which offer the best.

We are already completing over 150 bookings per day and are genuinely getting so much positive feedback, especially from users who contact us after their bookings. We are listening to all the suggestions and are trying to act on all common feedback. In fact the photo verification system was a result of conversations on here and two other forums, so we are very grateful for all the interest here.

We will also have a big update coming up in the next 2-3 weeks, which are very excited about. Thanks again for all the support and feedback.

Statton69
05-08-17, 03:32
I think you are twisting our words or have misread / misunderstood. We are most definitely challenging ALL agencies which come onto our platform, which is clear with the ratings, photo verification, and even the GPS tracking. No one is given any special treatment and all scores, comments, and photo ratings are left unedited. Each and every agency on our platform is made to take responsibility for their performance and service, as well as their advertisements / profile. And by doing that it is rewarding the good agencies and helping us to weed out the bad ones. In that way we very much agree with you, and our concept is to highlight the agencies and companions which offer the best.

We are already completing over 150 bookings per day and are genuinely getting so much positive feedback, especially from users who contact us after their bookings. We are listening to all the suggestions and are trying to act on all common feedback. In fact the photo verification system was a result of conversations on here and two other forums, so we are very grateful for all the interest here.

We will also have a big update coming up in the next 2-3 weeks, which are very excited about. Thanks again for all the support and feedback.Can I suggest we are missing a clear verification opportunity here. From many reports the issue of photos is not often one of a completely different person but photoshopping or more accurately AGE. I have had the pleasure of a few escorts in Bangkok and my finding time and again is not that the pictures are false or even photoshopped but that they were taken 10 or even more years ago.

So my point is that these ladies who still have wildly outdated photos would've easily picked up if the agency or smooci verifies the escorts age. Surely not that hard to do? There are too many still showing and pretending to be 24 when comments and ratings would indicate closer to 40. And if age is accurately given we can all assess how recent or well preserved a photo looks and decide accordingly.

SmoociApp
05-09-17, 13:33
Can I suggest we are missing a clear verification opportunity here. From many reports the issue of photos is not often one of a completely different person but photoshopping or more accurately AGE. I have had the pleasure of a few escorts in Bangkok and my finding time and again is not that the pictures are false or even photoshopped but that they were taken 10 or even more years ago.

So my point is that these ladies who still have wildly outdated photos would've easily picked up if the agency or smooci verifies the escorts age. Surely not that hard to do? There are too many still showing and pretending to be 24 when comments and ratings would indicate closer to 40. And if age is accurately given we can all assess how recent or well preserved a photo looks and decide accordingly.I think age will be a separate issue, although photo accuracy will go someway to confirming that.

One of the things holding up the companion's app, which will allow independents onto our platform, is implementing an ID verification system, this will verify that a companion is of legal age and of the gender they claim to be.

Member #4591
05-09-17, 18:32
I think age will be a separate issue, although photo accuracy will go someway to confirming that.

One of the things holding up the companion's app, which will allow independents onto our platform, is implementing an ID verification system, this will verify that a companion is of legal age and of the gender they claim to be.I think just have the ladies send it in by photo or scanned PDF to your office directly would be the best way. Another would be to see their original by having them visit your office in person to get verified before being accepted onto the platform. I understand this may be a challenge if your office is not in Thailand. If that's the case then this will be a challenge.

SmoociApp
05-10-17, 12:14
I think just have the ladies send it in by photo or scanned PDF to your office directly would be the best way. Another would be to see their original by having them visit your office in person to get verified before being accepted onto the platform. I understand this may be a challenge if your office is not in Thailand. If that's the case then this will be a challenge.Looking at the bigger picture I don't think this will be an option. We haven't fully launched yet, as in Bangkok was originally just our testing ground and we only took on a few agencies to develop the system before full launch and expansion. We are getting very close to being able to allow freelancers on to our system and moving into a few other countries, so manually verifying photos isn't a long term solution.

We feel the system we have no put in place is more reliable and solves the photoshopping issue:

After every completed booking the client gets a review link where they add a rating, give a comment on the booking, and rate each photo of the companion they just met, with a simple yes or no as to whether it was accurate.

After receiving 5 yes / no scores a photo will then be judged.

- A very high number of yes votes will give the photo a verified stamp.

- A very high number of no votes will get the photo removed from the profile.

- If they don't have a decisive score then the photo will remain visible but without a stamp, until they have enough yes or no votes to make it decisive.

So ultimately the clients / users decide whether a photo is accurate based on actual meet up.

We have also created an algorithm to give a lot more weight to more recent scores, and less weight as a score gets older, in order to keep judgement relevant and up to date.

Sky Ryder
05-14-17, 05:02
I am asking because I am not 100% sure of all the procedures with Smooci, so pardon my inexperience with your service. I plan to change that status to experienced by the end of the week! Are you allowed to "request" a specific lady, or just hope that she shows up on your website. Is there any way to be alerted is a lady you are interested in seeing comes available on your site? I am not sure how much interaction, if any you have with the actual escorts, but any idea how "flexible" they may be with advertised services? I suspect that is a very individual situation based upon the girl and her feelings at the time /.

TIA for your answer.

Sky.

WarmStone25
05-14-17, 14:55
Photo verification was introduced on April 3rd and yet when I browse the contents of the females available I do not see any verified photos. Over this period of time I would expect to see some photos verified. In what way will verified photos be indicated?

SmoociApp
05-15-17, 09:25
I am asking because I am not 100% sure of all the procedures with Smooci, so pardon my inexperience with your service. I plan to change that status to experienced by the end of the week! Are you allowed to "request" a specific lady, or just hope that she shows up on your website. Is there any way to be alerted is a lady you are interested in seeing comes available on your site? I am not sure how much interaction, if any you have with the actual escorts, but any idea how "flexible" they may be with advertised services? I suspect that is a very individual situation based upon the girl and her feelings at the time /.

TIA for your answer.

Sky.Hi Sky,

When you make a booking you book and exact companion, and that companion is the one who must turn up. It's not acceptable for an alternative companion and we would potentially ban a companion / agency if they didn't send the correct companion.

There is no way to set notifications of when certain companions come online, although if the companion works for an agency you would be able to contact them and ask for that companions schedule.

When you place a booking it's for the agreed services at the agreed price, and both the client and companion / agency have to agree to that for the booking to be confirmed. It is possible to send a note / request with your booking if you require anything specific, and once a booking is confirmed you will have direct contact with the agency or companion.

SmoociApp
05-15-17, 09:29
Photo verification was introduced on April 3rd and yet when I browse the contents of the females available I do not see any verified photos. Over this period of time I would expect to see some photos verified. In what way will verified photos be indicated?The photo verification is in place. Photo verification scores are used once a photo receives it's 5th yes / no vote.

Verification stamps will be shown to premium members, and we are looking to launch premium memberships in around 15/20 days. These accounts will also include the ability to read all comments and book up to 24 hours in advance.

We are already removing photos which receive a high number of no votes after the 5th vote (these photos are removed for all members).

Syzygies
05-15-17, 10:39
I am asking because I am not 100% sure of all the procedures with Smooci, so pardon my inexperience with your service. I plan to change that status to experienced by the end of the week! Are you allowed to "request" a specific lady, or just hope that she shows up on your website. Is there any way to be alerted is a lady you are interested in seeing comes available on your site? I am not sure how much interaction, if any you have with the actual escorts, but any idea how "flexible" they may be with advertised services? I suspect that is a very individual situation based upon the girl and her feelings at the time /.

TIA for your answer.

Sky.I think this question has been covered to death before, so I will keep it brief. If you want a specific girl, you best go to the Escort Agency direct, assuming no "bait and switch", or you select a timeslot in Smooci, and get lucky that she happens to be available. Smooci is not designed for your requirements, it is designed to cover girls available in a specific timeslot in the next 4 hours. I have no affiliation with Smooci.

Sky Ryder
05-15-17, 13:19
I think this question has been covered to death before, so I will keep it brief. If you want a specific girl, you best go to the Escort Agency direct, assuming no "bait and switch", or you select a timeslot in Smooci, and get lucky that she happens to be available. Smooci is not designed for your requirements, it is designed to cover girls available in a specific timeslot in the next 4 hours. I have no affiliation with Smooci.As it turns out Mr. S, you are correct. There was was lengthly explanation of the service on thread post number 84 about 9 pages back. While I can't compare with 10,000 posts, I don't consider myself a FNG either. I admit that I only reviewed the thread about 7 pages back and now feel I am well versed in photoshopped girls pictures and use of the rating system. I did try to make it known that I had not used the service before and that I planned to change that one issue before the week is out. I do appreciate your taking the time to educate me on the fine points of Smoochi's service, and will endeavour to be more diligent in my future searches before asking for assistance.

Sky.

Dan7373
05-15-17, 17:13
.... our concept is simply set up to create more openness and give the users a more informed choice, fairer pricing, and more control over their experience. The system is set out to reward the agencies and companions who offer genuine and high levels of service, and expose the agencies and companions who hide behind glossy ads and sites without delivering.I have to say, this smooci.com website is already having a good effect on the escort market for both guys and ladies.

I've checked out the profiles of all the ladies there on two different days. And I was pleasantly surprised to see that on the first day, 53 out of 55 ladies offered 2 shots for their guys. On the second day, it was 55 out of 58 ladies. One hot lady there actually changed her profile from 1 shot on one day to 2 shots the next day.

The ladies at this website are probably checking out each others' profiles and making sure that their offer to guys is at least as good as that of other ladies.

At most other places, ladies offer you only 1 shot. And this makes your encounter with the hot lady and iffy kind of experience. You pick a lady, who is too hot for you. And then you can't last with her. She is happy you took only 5 minutes. But you are disappointed.

It's like the hot lady gets the better end of the deal. She wins and you lose. And this kind of thing destroys the market. Because guys don't trust hot ladies and are reluctant to deal with them.

And that's what this 2-shot thing at smooci.com is about. It's like the hot lady says to you that her being too hot is no problem. You can cum prematurely with her. And she will work with you to get you to last with her for a long time anyway.

I think this website has the potential to expand the escort market. Because with 2-shot ladies, guys don't need to worry about possibly getting the short end of the deal. You have more trust. And this usually leads to more trade and exchange.

Syzygies
05-15-17, 17:48
As it turns out Mr. S, you are correct. There was was lengthly explanation of the service on thread post number 84 about 9 pages back. While I can't compare with 10,000 posts, I don't consider myself a FNG either. I admit that I only reviewed the thread about 7 pages back and now feel I am well versed in photoshopped girls pictures and use of the rating system. I did try to make it known that I had not used the service before and that I planned to change that one issue before the week is out. I do appreciate your taking the time to educate me on the fine points of Smoochi's service, and will endeavour to be more diligent in my future searches before asking for assistance.

Sky.Well I wasn't admonishing you as such, merely pointing out a look back could find expansive questioning on this topic (just a fact). I did not make any comments about yourself doing anything bad. I am normally am too verbose so explained why I kept it shorter, due to not wanting to be repeating past stuff. So don't be sensitive. Sometimes there is mud slinging, sometimes it isn't really.

I do understand very well since I was recently a total newbie on the Cambodia thread and knew nothing at all. I don't like to dump shit on new comers like some others do, unless they really show they deserve it. If someone was to keep persisting with the same dumb questions over and over, that would be a more valid cause.

Note I gave you a short answer, which indicates I was okay for you to ask. Searching for old info isn't always easy. The technique I find easiest to use is, is to use "Thread Tools", "Display Thread as a Printable Version", select to display past posts using 1000 posts per page, then Find for words or phrases in each massive page. The Thread Search function is rather more difficult to work well, especially searching for very short words, and problems when search word is not surrounded by blanks.

Love Sex 22
05-15-17, 18:23
One of the ideas that will greatly improve your buisness is if you can varify the age of the provider by looking at their id card before acepting them to your website. The reason i am asking this is, i know 2 of the girls on your website from before, they are around 38 years old, but they being advertise as 24 years old on your website. So basicly a guy that like younger girls like me can not trust your website. Thanks.

Crocodilexp
05-16-17, 09:27
(Photo) verification stamps will be shown to premium members, and we are looking to launch premium memberships in around 15/20 days. These accounts will also include the ability to read all comments and book up to 24 hours in advance.Good luck finding a proper model to monetize your service, hope it works out well enough to make your endeavor worthwhile.

One worthwhile feature (that I'd pay for) would be the ability to browse all ladies, even if their current availability is unknown.

Not sure whether putting crowd-sourced info (e. G. Comments) behind a paywall is a great idea, since it gives the users less incentive to provide said info.

SmoociApp
05-16-17, 10:03
We are getting close to launching the app companions will use to work on our system. At the moment we are part operating manually, but with this app we will be able to allow freelancers onboard. To complete the sign up on the app companions will need to use a government ID to verify their age. Primarily this is to make sure that all companions are of legal age, but it's possible we could also use this info to check ages on profiles.

Dan7373
05-17-17, 11:53
We are getting close to launching the app companions will use to work on our system. At the moment we are part operating manually, but with this app we will be able to allow freelancers onboard. To complete the sign up on the app companions will need to use a government ID to verify their age. Primarily this is to make sure that all companions are of legal age, but it's possible we could also use this info to check ages on profiles.I'd say that getting freelancers onboard is the most promising potential for your app. Because this is where the mass market is.

Escort ladies working for agencies charge so much money that their business has limited potential for growth. But freelancers working for themselves, without any middle-men to share their pay with, can bring down the price and increase availability so much that they will compete with all the other ladies out there, including ladies at bars, go-go places, and massage places too.

I think a lot of ladies might even leave those other places and start working for themselves through this app. Because they would have more freedom, and their pay might be just as good as before, if not better. And this app would also bring down the entry barrier for ladies who just want to do it part-time, a few times a week or even a few times a month.

I've stayed away from amateurs and freelancers before due to lack of trust. Because if the lady isn't registered anywhere and nobody knows she is with you, then such anonymity is an opportunity for crime. The lady can put something in your drink to disable you, and rob you. But when freelancers and amateurs register with an app like this, then there is a record of who they are and with whom they are. Which makes them just as trustworthy as ladies working at establishments. A lot of guys, who wouldn't go for freelancers before, would probably go for them through an app like this.

This app has good potential to attract both new ladies and new customers and expand the market for both. The only thing to worry about is the potential for government interference. If this app becomes too successful, then it will probably lead to the kind of trouble that Uber and Airbnb are having with government authorities.

Women working for themselves can find regular customers and meet with them on their own, without the app. Which would leave no record of the ladies getting paid. And this means that they probably won't pay government taxes, the way businesses do. And this is another advantage for the ladies. At massage places, the lady will get fired, if she start meeting with her customers outside of the establishment. But this would be okay for the ladies using this app.

This app will give so much opportunity and freedom for both guys and ladies, that government authorities for sure won't like it. And unfortunately, they'll probably use an underhanded approach to shut down an app like this.

Instead of honestly saying that this is about taxes and control of the people. They would give some other reason to create animosity and division within society, so that people can't resist what they want to do. Divide and rule. This is an old saying Romans used to have. And that's what governments use even now to control the people. When the people are divided and are set against each other, then it's easier for government authorities to control them.

They'll probably say that they want to protect women from exploitation. And it won't be hard for them find a lady or two, who will endorse their message in the media.

Crocodilexp
05-17-17, 15:43
We are getting close to launching the app companions will use to work on our system. At the moment we are part operating manually, but with this app we will be able to allow freelancers onboard. To complete the sign up on the app companions will need to use a government ID to verify their age. Primarily this is to make sure that all companions are of legal age, but it's possible we could also use this info to check ages on profiles.Good luck. This is going to make or break your service, and has potential to make you the online source for P4 P in Thailand.

Kudos for bringing prices escort prices from astronomical "only mugs (businessmen) use this semi-scam" down to "sort of, maybe, somewhat acceptable if you squint". However, for most mongers, 2000-3000 baht for a quickie is still way too much given what oily massage parlors like Tulip offer for 1900-2100 range (multiple pops, A+, PSE), and there are literally hundreds of "massage parlors" offering the crappy old 2000 baht quickie.

If you can get a few dozen freelancers onboard in the 1000-2000 baht per session price range, customer numbers could potentially skyrocket as well, attracting new ladies and so on. In a huge positive feedback loop.

Daddy San
05-17-17, 16:44
Sounds good, but what is the law on procuration in Thailand?

Crocodilexp
05-18-17, 11:29
Sounds good, but what is the law on procuration in Thailand?In practice, the rule is that police or the army (or both) will have to start getting their payoffs at some point.

What do you think all the "bar" and "massage parlor" owners are doing?

Michager
05-18-17, 18:49
I read that Yuko on Smooci looks better in person than in pictures.I can not confirm, that Yuko looks better in person than in pictures. Actually she looks much younger and more slim on the pictures than in real. The data says, that she is 29. I think, she is much older and around 40.

Anyway she is a friendly lady and did, what she offered.

Gonzo88
05-21-17, 08:52
In Bangkok for a few days and was looking for trouble on Saturday night. I was running an errand near Soi Cobwoy, hit Crazy House around 9 pm. Some hot girls, but the one I liked were being swarmed by old Japanese dudes, so I took off. I am sick of the bullshit in Bacara, so I poked my head into Thermae on the way to the Nana Sky Train stop. Weird scene, I was way too sober to deal with that, although there were some cute girls in there. Headed down to Patpong for a change of pace, went to Club Electric Blue, got smashed and failed to convince any to the good looking girls in there to go with me long time. The bar fine was 1200 baht, which also sort of put me off. So, having basically blown a wad of money in gogos all over town and at serious risk of blue balls, what was I do do?

Booked Vanida on Smooci. I had used Smooci before when I booked Emma a few weeks ago, so while I am at it, I will review them both. Both were excellent, but very different.

Emma is probably 28 or so, amazing skinny body, and a pretty face, but perhaps not quite as pretty as she appears in the pics. On the other hand, she is an absolute sex machine, PSE all the way. She has me doing her while she squatted on a chair, lay on her back and had me mouth fuck her while standing by the bed, she whipped out a vibrator and asked me if I could use it on her. The absolute works. I did not ask about anal, as it is not my thing, but she did tell me she does not do threesome with other girls, which is disappointing. Anyway, she was amazing, I will book her again for sure. 4000 baht for 2 hours.

That said, in my desperation to bust a nut, she was not on Smooci, so I picked Vanida, who was also amazing, but more GFE. As somebody else has pointed out, her pics are slightly airbrushed, and her skin has some slight acne scarring, but nothing too dramatic. She has a very pretty face, has not had a kids, is really slim, is pretty tight downstairs. She has bolt ONS, but there are not that big so they compliment her figure well. Compared to Emma, Vanida has a prettier face, but I might give Emma the nod on the body, as she is a bit taller and I think she does yoga. Anyway, both of them are gorgeous. Vanida is not nearly as sexually aggressive as Emma, it took a little while to get her warmed up. Once she got going though, she seemed really into it, was happy to pretty much do anything I wanted. It was much more GFE, but it was nonetheless fantastic. She is a really sweet and funny girl, it was great to spend a few hours with her. I will book her again for sure. 4200 for 2 hours.

Interestingly, I originally wanted to book Vanida for a longer period of time, as 6 hours was about 6000 baht, but 2 hours was 4200, so I thought, what the hell. However, they sent me a confirmation email that said "6 hours (2 shots). WTF? What the hell was I going to do with her for 4 more hours, play Parcheesi? I cancelled and rebooked for a 2 hour slot.

Shiba7
05-21-17, 17:44
I do not think so. If I booked for 2 hours, I would like the girl to stay for at lest 1 and half hours. If you allow that happen, the girl will try to finished in a hurry and will ruin my mood and enjoyment.

Jb.Is there no option for unlimited shots on smooci? I've personally never seen it, but have seen it on several of the direct agency sites.

Vrsabien
05-22-17, 02:48
Thanks both those girls on my to do list so been waiting for reviews.

Now got figure out if these others are worth their smooci rating / photos:

Patty.

Gita.

Mandy.

Mena.


In Bangkok for a few days and was looking for trouble on Saturday night. I was running an errand near Soi Cobwoy, hit Crazy House around 9 pm. Some hot girls, but the one I liked were being swarmed by old Japanese dudes, so I took off. I am sick of the bullshit in Bacara, so I poked my head into Thermae on the way to the Nana Sky Train stop. Weird scene, I was way too sober to deal with that, although there were some cute girls in there. Headed down to Patpong for a change of pace, went to Club Electric Blue, got smashed and failed to convince any to the good looking girls in there to go with me long time. The bar fine was 1200 baht, which also sort of put me off. So, having basically blown a wad of money in gogos all over town and at serious risk of blue balls, what was I do do?

Booked Vanida on Smooci. I had used Smooci before when I booked Emma a few weeks ago, so while I am at it, I will review them both. Both were excellent, but very different.

Emma is probably 28 or so, amazing skinny body, and a pretty face, but perhaps not quite as pretty as she appears in the pics. On the other hand, she is an absolute sex machine, PSE all the way. She has me doing her while she squatted on a chair, lay on her back and had me mouth fuck her while standing by the bed, she whipped out a vibrator and asked me if I could use it on her. The absolute works. I did not ask about anal, as it is not my thing, but she did tell me she does not do threesome with other girls, which is disappointing..

PassionSeeker1
05-22-17, 10:05
We are getting close to launching the app companions will use to work on our system. At the moment we are part operating manually, but with this app we will be able to allow freelancers onboard. To complete the sign up on the app companions will need to use a government ID to verify their age. Primarily this is to make sure that all companions are of legal age, but it's possible we could also use this info to check ages on profiles.Well it will be something which will compete Wechat and free apps out there but with a revenue for you and reliability for customers.

Gonzo88
05-22-17, 11:08
Following on from a post from yesterday, I wanted to update my report, as I provided a very positive and potentially incorrect review of Emma. Also, I saw Mayu off Smooci, who was reserved but great.

I saw Emma again, as my first impression of her was really great. I was pretty hungover, so perhaps this hurt the chemistry somewhat, because I did not have nearly as good a time as my first meeting with her. First of all, I remembered her as being very hot with a great skinny body and estimated her age at about 28. When I saw her yesterday, she was not looking quite so good. OutsI would certainly guess her age is well over 30. She mentioned that she has worked in the Nana gogos for 5 years, so she clearly has a lot of miles on her. She also has put on a bit of weight, and her face is nice, but not nearly as hot as I remember. She has some skin damage on her face, and looks ok, but she is certainly not a knockout. She is a really sexual, horny person, and is still quite wild, but I really wasn't feeling it frankly. Anyway, my report from my earlier meeting was really positive, and I did not want people to be misled.

Earlier today I saw Mayu from Smooci. Really classy girl, nice skinny body, very pretty face, just like the photos on the website. She was initially pretty shy, said she had only been with the agency for 3 week. I think she only works with the agency part time, as she said she has a few other jobs. Anyway, once she relaxed a little bit, she was friendly and good service, nothing too crazy or wild. She had a few restrictions on what she wanted to do / have done to her, and it wasn't really a GFE experience, in that it was a little cold, but it certainly was not PSE either. I am not trying to be negative, as she is hot, friendly and pretty willing, and I would probably repeat, but she is new to the game, so there is a slight reluctance or shyness to her performance.

Sky Ryder
05-22-17, 16:05
I busted my "Smooci cherry" this past week and was very pleased over all with both the lady and certainly the service. I saw Naris, and she was a good way to start 4 fun days in BKK. I will admit that the same issues that have been discussed on this forum ad nauseam were evident. The only real issue for me was the accuracy of the photos. Yes it was her, but to be polite, the photographer and the editor worked a bit of digital magic. Her personality and sexual aptitude more than made up for any perceived physical lacking. She has never had children, but was involved in a pretty bad car accident that resulted in some permanent scarring on her abdomen if that bothers you (quite frankly, I didn't even notice after about 2 minutes into the session). She has awesome oral skills and does something with a light touch of her nails while delivering a well practiced oral lovemaking that I had never experienced before, but will try again.

About the way the service operates, well I can say I was very impressed and for sure will use them again. I liked the customer service and also the "track the ladies progress" feature. I need to let them know I would have to meet her in the lobby since she needed a room key to get to my floor and they were online with chat and it was not a problem. I was also pleased to find out that the special items I requested were passed on the lady. She didn't have one of them and forgot the other in a rush not to be late. It was really nice that she arrived on time and in a great mood.

I am looking forward to my next opportunity to enjoy their service. Can't wait to see what happens when the FL's or private ladies are admitted.

Sky.

WarmStone25
05-22-17, 20:32
Following on from a post from yesterday, I wanted to update my report, as I provided a very positive and potentially incorrect review of Emma. Also, I saw Mayu off Smooci, who was reserved but great.

I saw Emma again, as my first impression of her was really great. I was pretty hungover, so perhaps this hurt the chemistry somewhat, because I did not have nearly as good a time as my first meeting with her. First of all, I remembered her as being very hot with a great skinny body and estimated her age at about 28. When I saw her yesterday, she was not looking quite so good. OutsI would certainly guess her age is well over 30. She mentioned that she has worked in the Nana gogos for 5 years, so she clearly has a lot of miles on her. She also has put on a bit of weight, and her face is nice, but not nearly as hot as I remember. She has some skin damage on her face, and looks ok, but she is certainly not a knockout. She is a really sexual, horny person, and is still quite wild, but I really wasn't feeling it frankly. Anyway, my report from my earlier meeting was really positive, and I did not want people to be misled.I may be better if customers do not rate the escorts immediately after the session. I did this but subsequently decided I had over rated the girl when I was still in the heat off the moment. Pherhaps Smooci should send a reminder the day after the session to get the customer to send in his rating. The ratings may be more realistic this way. If photos are way out of date, but otherwise good, they should be rejected.

Dan7373
05-22-17, 21:39
... I did not ask about anal, as it is not my thing, but she did tell me she does not do threesome with other girls, which is disappointing. ....The smooci.com website lists all the services each lady is willing to provide.

I looked at the profile of every lady there a few days ago, and I found only 3 ladies who provided A-level service. A-level probably means anal.

Some ladies do threesomes. And this service is listed as 'Couples' in the lady's profile at the website. Which means that you need to bring your own lady, if you want to have a threesome.

Dan7373
05-22-17, 21:46
I may be better if customers do not rate the escorts immediately after the session. I did this but subsequently decided I had over rated the girl when I was still in the heat off the moment. Pherhaps Smooci should send a reminder the day after the session to get the customer to send in his rating. The ratings may be more realistic this way. If photos are way out of date, but otherwise good, they should be rejected.The fact that your moment was full of heat says something good about the lady.

The problem with doing it from memory is that people's memory changes over time. The longer you wait, the less accurate your rating will be.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/am-i-right/201307/your-memory-isnt-what-you-think-it-is

EihTooms
05-23-17, 13:46
I may be better if customers do not rate the escorts immediately after the session. I did this but subsequently decided I had over rated the girl when I was still in the heat off the moment. Pherhaps Smooci should send a reminder the day after the session to get the customer to send in his rating. The ratings may be more realistic this way. If photos are way out of date, but otherwise good, they should be rejected.Of course, that issue would primarily be a factor for the customers who either didn't know or read the Smooci Star Rating Guidelines or chose to utterly ignore them and rate on a personal and therefore unknown (to other customers) standard.

The Smooci Star Rating Guidelines are rather specific about the standard being based on whether or not the girl's photos were accurate and whether or not she actually provided a requested service listed on her profile.

Not sure how many days of thought and consideration must be given to whether or not the girl actually provided a BBBJ+CIM, for example. But if the standard is based on whatever "heat" means to a particlar customer, then it would definitely apply.

Unfortunately.

Houzi
05-26-17, 02:52
Thanks both those girls on my to do list so been waiting for reviews.

Now got figure out if these others are worth their smooci rating / photos:

Patty.

Gita.

Mandy.

Mena.Have you by chance gotten any feedback or experience with Mena by now?

Daddy San
05-30-17, 17:29
I am very careful not to leave a paper trail while mongering, so I have a problem using my real name and hotel for the booking.

SMS OTP verification is ok.

Does Smooci or anyone else have a suggestion for a more discrete procedure?

SmoociApp
05-31-17, 08:54
I am very careful not to leave a paper trail while mongering, so I have a problem using my real name and hotel for the booking.

SMS OTP verification is ok.

Does Smooci or anyone else have a suggestion for a more discrete procedure?Technically you don't need to give your real name, we would just need the name you use at the hotel to verify the booking, so if you use an alternate name on your hotel room you can also use this on your booking.

Gonzo88
06-01-17, 13:36
There are plenty of positive reviews for Natt on here, so I will keep it brief. Very pretty, slim, sexy girl, 24 years old. Pictures on the website are accurate, if anything, she is sexier in person. Small boobs, some small tasteful tattoos. She is very friendly and chatty, no awkwardness or strange vibes. She is, as other posters have reported, full on. She likes to take control and do different positions, has a little vibrator she likes to play with while you are banging her. She apparently likes a pretty hard bang. Some posters have said she does not provide a BBBJ. This was certainly not the case, she did the works, including deep throat, and wanted me to CIM after I had banged her. She is an amazing carnival ride, one of the best I have had, and I will definitely repeat. 4500 baht for 2 hours.

There were some logistical issues. I booked for the afternoon, first they called and told me I had to move the booking back by half an hour. Then she showed up about 40 minutes late. We completed the 2 shot business in about 90 minutes, and she wanted to leave before the 2 hours were up because she was hungry. I did not have a problem with that, as her attitude, looks and performance were fantastic while she was there, and I had taken care of business anyway.

Do yourself a favour and book her if she is available.

Syzygies
06-03-17, 11:06
Technically you don't need to give your real name, we would just need the name you use at the hotel to verify the booking, so if you use an alternate name on your hotel room you can also use this on your booking.Do you verify by ringing the person making the booking, or by talking to Hotel staff?

I rent a room by the month. Is it okay To verify by ringing the Apartments and connecting to my room number and have me answer the phone myself? There is no one else that is going to answer at night.

Jdb82
06-03-17, 14:48
Reading back through quite a number of pages, there seems to be quite a number of Smooci-bashers that pick fault with every tiny detail. I used them recently, and have only positive things to say. They gave me a choice of 60+ girls to choose from, I could (roughly) see if their appearance matched my taste, booking was a breeze and I even got a call to my room from the agency to confirm everything so quickly that I'd barely even finished tapping in all the required info. Yes their rating system needs a bit of refinement, but give them a break. They just helped me (and many others) have a more than pleasurable afternoon.

Thanks Smooci, and I look forwards to Singapore & Hong Kong coming online soon.

Daddy San
06-03-17, 16:37
I rent a room by the month. (snip)Hi,

The above remark caught my attention.

I come to SE Asia every year for 7 weeks late January and stay at the same hotel for 3-4 weeks at the time.

For the coming year, I was thinking of some kind of long term renting, to save money without sacrificing quality, like you appear to be doing.

Would you care to share some of your sources for long (er) term rentals? By PM if you like.

Thanks.

SmoociApp
06-03-17, 21:55
Do you verify by ringing the person making the booking, or by talking to Hotel staff?

I rent a room by the month. Is it okay To verify by ringing the Apartments and connecting to my room number and have me answer the phone myself? There is no one else that is going to answer at night.Either are OK. Basically the booking team would contact the hotel saying they are a friend of XXX in room XXXX, or simply ask if their friend XXX had checked in to rooms XXX, and if those details are correct, that alone is good confirmation. If they are put through directly to the room or private residence without getting confirmation then they would simply speak to the resident to confirm they made a booking.

Carpaccio18
06-03-17, 23:33
The data says, that she is 29. I think, she is much older and around 40.
Damn, I would be rather less than pleased if I had expected 29 and got 40. Smooci guys, speed up your age verification, please.

Member #4591
06-04-17, 06:09
My first booking at smooci went quite well. But the second one was a disaster. I booked the first one while I was staying at a hotel on suk but the second one, I booked from my condo. After making the booking, and going through the phone number verification thinking everything was going to be smooth, I received a call demanding my last name. Then the girl called the reception desk at my condo at 5 AM. In my booking, the name of my condo was there and clearly not a hotel. The girl then questioned the staff about who was staying in my unit. I received a panic call from security asking me all sorts of questions. Anyways, don't use smooci if you book to your condo. They don't know the meaning of discretion. Agencies need to be discreet when dealing with their customers. To me, if I'm going to use an agency, this is one of the most important things. After all this drama, I cancelled the booking and will never use them again. I will pay the extra 500 or 1,000 if I want to book the lady through their home agency. Escort agencies are more for the in / out traveller in Bangkok but the odd time, I will see a stunner and take the plunge.

ParkVille
06-05-17, 12:13
My first booking at smooci went quite well. But the second one was a disaster. I booked the first one while I was staying at a hotel on suk but the second one, I booked from my condo. After making the booking, and going through the phone number verification thinking everything was going to be smooth, I received a call demanding my last name. Then the girl called the reception desk at my condo at 5 AM. In my booking, the name of my condo was there and clearly not a hotel. The girl then questioned the staff about who was staying in my unit. I received a panic call from security asking me all sorts of questions. Anyways, don't use smooci if you book to your condo. They don't know the meaning of discretion. Agencies need to be discreet when dealing with their customers. To me, if I'm going to use an agency, this is one of the most important things. After all this drama, I cancelled the booking and will never use them again. I will pay the extra 500 or 1,000 if I want to book the lady through their home agency. Escort agencies are more for the in / out traveller in Bangkok but the odd time, I will see a stunner and take the plunge.I wish this forum had a like feature, because this is some really good intel regarding condo usage and smooci. Thanks.