Stupid shit in Medellin [Archive] - Page 16

RamDavidson84

04-08-22, 01:51

You give me the impression that a man is born w a dick and a woman is born w a vagina, and that's the end of the story. But that is a million miles from the truth. Let's stick with the discussion of a woman for now. What makes a woman? There are some traits that are common among women:

Vagina, Womb, Uterus, Ovaries, Being able to produce large gametes.
Breasts.
High level of oestrogen during and after puberty (until she stops being a women, hehe).
XX chromosomes.
Smaller muscles, less body hair, broader hips, more body fat.
Neurological structures and accompanying physiological functions particular to a female.
Womanliness. Being of the gender.
Psychological traits.
Sociological traits.That's not a million miles from the truth. That's the overwhelming majority of humans born. Yes there are very few humans born with sexual deformities. Here is a simple answer, if a human is born with a vagina. Then she is a woman! If a human is born with a dick then he is a MAN! If a human is born sexually deformed, it's ambiguous and there is question for debate, and more recognition for a third sex perhaps should be discussed and promoted. Most of what you say seems to advocate for fucking dudes who think they are girls, which is your right, I would just call that gay, a man who is aroused by a dick. That's what a homosexual is and there is nothing wrong with that. A man who likes to pretend and make himself look like a woman and get fucked by other men, that is a tranny. This all seems pretty simple to me. If you are at the point in your life where you don't mind paying a man who makes himself look like a girl and getting your rocks off, that is your business and god bless you. I could care less.

My problem is when you actually start to think and advocate that those men who pretend to be women should be treated as normal women. As I have stated many times, that is not fair to real women in the realm of sport and other areas in terms of fairness. Look at the horrific tragedy that is occurring in NCAA women's swimming, these young girls are now showering everyday with a dude, I can't imagine they feel comfortable. They have trained their whole lives to be champion swimmers and here comes a he / she and he just crushes all of them and their dreams. If we allow this to continue, it's the end of female sports and that is sad. As a former competitive the 1 athlete, I could never condone anything like this, its totally unfair and I blame those who live in cyber-land and not the real world and have never competed in a sport. These weirdos from the liberal American left push these policies without even for a second thinking about the women who will get fucked over by being forced to compete against he / she's.

RamDavidson84

04-08-22, 01:54

The world is gone to fuck. The Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire. Check out some of the mad emperors they had. Some mad Serbian transvestite fucker. Today is Sodom and Gomorrah on a quiet day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JO96wcBgIOwTell that to Ukraine and the Wigurs in China.

MarquisdeSade1

04-08-22, 03:09

I don't seek them out. But if a girl is sexy, why exclude her? Why be prejudiced against someone based on what some doctor said 20 years ago?!

I am not interested in knowing if someone is scientifically female. I mean, I don't want children, so why should I care if she has ovaries? But if a girl looks sexy and is happy to give me a BJ or let me fk her in her vagina or arse, then I am a happy man. Her sex doesn't come in to it."I am not interested in knowing if someone is scientifically female."

If you don't care if its a female or not, then you are gay and just say that!! (heterosexual men don't have sex with other men).

And don't call someone that is scientifically male a female.

Even you agree that science has a process to delineate the difference between the two.

"I am not interested in knowing if someone is scientifically female."

Your homosexuality does not nullify biology.

Mr Enternational

04-08-22, 04:18

With a ho, you just care about sex, and she just cares about the money. With a SB, you care about the sex and her. She cares about the money and you.

Yeah, I have heard you guys knocking this as stupid for the last few years, but look at guys who have been doing it and having a great time with it. It was easy to knock it when it was just me but now you have dozens of guys doing it. When you have that many, and you have not tried it, then you are the one who is delusional.Remind me again why these guys do not just get a woman that cares about them and not the money. For some reason you are acting like these type of women (who must have the absolute best sex) do not exist, because you refuse to mention them. It is either ho or sugar baby (ho lite) with you.

For me it is either ho or women that do not require gifts or money. Sorry, but I can not illude myself that a "sugar baby" is with me for me (and money). The test is all too simple. If the money is gone will she still accept me? I will go out on a limb and say that is a hard NO! If I am gone will she still accept my money? Hmmm.

LuvMexicanas

04-08-22, 04:57

It is either ho or sugar baby (ho lite) with you.

For me it is either ho or women that do not require gifts or money.Do not waste your time with the clinically insane. He'd argue there's a difference between pregnant and almost pregnant.

Gabacho

04-08-22, 07:18

If you are cheap, like drugs, enjoy being around a bunch of fat / lazy sex tourists, and you have low standards yes, maybe MDE is better. This is crazy. I can go on bad food, terrible service, crappy music. MDE is one step up from a ghetto with a couple of nice places. If you have any game and a decent budget you can have an amazing experience in Mexico City and meet amazing girls, that are professionals and educated. From what you have described you are not looking for this. Maybe you can find this in other cities in Colombia, but I doubt it.

I was very clear I do not do the street game. MDE is low end at best, if that is your thing, then you are in paradise. I forgot to mention it rains all the time and humid. Also, the crime and drugs, yes MDE is Paradise!Medellin has the upper hand when it comes to food besides tacos. Bandeja Paisa, Pollo Broaster, Costillas, Punta de Anca, Solomo, Sancocho, Arepas, the list goes on and on. The weather is perfect, not too hot, not too cold like Bogota, afternoon rain showers that are refreshing and never seem to last too long, cleaner streets, mountains, tons of shit to go do (guatape day trip, Parque de las aguas, parque del Norte, parque explora, comuna 13) tons of Centro comerciales, Poblado, as mentioned there is a casa scene, the ground zero / Botero centro scene, parque lleras, Venezuelan women are way better looking and give way better service than Mexican women, and also the Colombianas. The people are nicer, the culture is more open and inviting, the place is amazing.

Mexico City: trash everywhere on the streets, especially anillo de circunvalacion. The hotels have fucking cockroaches, so many people everywhere you have to walk in the fucking streets bcuz you can't squeeze in on the sidewalks, same deal with the metro, 50 people in the doors 50 people out the doors all at the same time, with people pushing and shoving you. No decent fried chicken options, tacos are good especially the suadero, but food is priced higher than medellin, hotels are more expensive as well and the women tend to look indigenous, coming from places such as Oaxaca, Chiapas, Campeche, Puebla and Tabasco. The women often have bad attitude, not wanting to take off their shirts unless you pay 100 pesos more, same thing about blow jobs too, also most won't allow DATY, most do not shave either, and most have nasty vertical c-section scars too. Also you mentioned crime in Medellin ok sure there's crime everywhere, you must not frequent mercado tepito when you're in CDMX??

ShooBree

04-08-22, 09:36

ShooBree

04-08-22, 09:40

I dunno mate. I dunno why people can not read what others wrote and then make up their own interpretations. I never said she was not trans.You mean he.

PVMonger

04-08-22, 13:04

Your personality speaks louder than your size. I used to be 5'8" (age also takes it toll on height, about 5'7 1/2" now) and weigh 195. I have some FB friends who I consider to be 7's and 8's. They never say anything about the size of my mid-section. Even when I tell them in person that I am fat, they say I'm not. They continue to return to see me, and I don't over pay. Right now, I pay between 200,000 and 250,000 COP, total including taxis.I have found that most Latin American chicas like guys that are overweight. In fact, there was a recent article on-line that I read that confirmed it.

IMHO it comes from the fact that most Latin Americans are relatively poor and anyone who is overweight is seen as someone who can provide food.

DramaFree11

04-08-22, 13:07

JustTK

04-08-22, 15:37

Elvis 2008

04-08-22, 18:15

MarquisdeSade1

04-08-22, 19:40

I did write "if a girl looks sexy ". If a girl had a big dick flopping around while I was trying to give her one from behind, I don't think I would find that sexy. I am only sexually attracted to young women. But then again, I have never been in that situation so never say never!So when you pick up a puta and it turns out to be a man.

What does your mouth do whilst 69 ing?

Elvis 2008

04-08-22, 23:15

I have never been to Mexico City so I cannot comment on the comparison, but I must say that what you wrote above would be centrepiece subject matter if I were to write a Ironic comedy sketch about MDE. These are the very things that I dislike about MDE, or that I thiink are so overrated that they are laughable. But hey, each to our own. Go ahead and enjoy the inspiring Colombian food, warm and dry MDE climate and interesting tourist attractions.Mexico City is on the order of London, Paris, and NY, and the weather is better. Mexico City is one of those cities you would have to work at to be bored. There is always something going on, and the city has an incredible energy to it. The museums and parks are world class.

There is a Netflix show called Somebody feed Phil where he went to Mexico City, and I followed in his footsteps and ate at as many of the same places as he did. Unfuckingbelievable.

Then you have every good chain in Mexico and the USA there. The purists may scoff at this, but I took my gal to California Pizza Kitchen to try the Chicken Waldorf salad. I told her it is the best salad I have ever had in my life. She ordered it, loved it, and now insists we go to CPK every trip. Every steak house I have been to in Mexico has been better than anything in Colombia or Medellin.

Mexico City has a rainy season but even still there is less rain than Medellin. I will say Medellin does have Mexico City beat air pollution wise and with traffic, but I do not know what Gabacho is talking about with hotel costs. The Barcelo in Reforma in Mexico City is half the cost of the Medellin Marriott and is a nicer hotel. You can get 4 star hotels for under $100 and 3 star for $50 or so.

As I said on the low end, Medellin has Mexico City beat. If you want a 9 or 10, Mexico City is going to cost you. What would cost you $100 in Medellin on seeking / SA is $400 or so in Mexico City. The guys there have more money. OTOH, if you are willing to settle for a 8, you can get one for $75 in Medellin and $125 in Mexico City. You can find an 8+ escort for $50 to $125 in Mexico City.

So really the only reason to go to Medellin is the super cheap low end and the cheaper high, high end, and you can find plenty of Colombians and Vennies in Mexico City.

I did find two nice girls in Medellin who were not that bad, but for the most part though, the super high end women in Medellin were very cocky and very materialistic. The hotties in Mexico City wanted more money, but they did not have the uppity attitude the women from Medellin did.

Gabacho

04-08-22, 23:23

Completely wrong. MDE is one step of above a ghetto. Not worth commenting. Obviously you have very low standards.Well obviously you and I have had very different experiences in MDE and CDMX. I frequented CDMX from 2015 until 2021 and started going to Colombia in 2018 (mostly Bogot at first, but I've been going to medellin and cucuta for the last 2 years now and plan to check out Cali on my next trip). Maybe I'm just tired of Mexico idk. I had been living in Tijuana and working in SD since 2015 also. I've probably fucked half the paraditas en la coahuila. To me Colombia is a blessing and I love it there, Mexico on the other hand is fucking boring to me, but hey to each his own.

PS: id take a ghetto with venezolana chicas over the nicest fucking place with mexicanas... There is no comparison, the sex, the attitudes, the connections.. I've been all over Mexico from TJ to DF to Tuxtla and various places in between like veracruz, Puebla, and even cancún and none of those places have shit on Medellin

ShooBree

04-08-22, 23:46

Completely wrong. MDE is one step of above a ghetto. Not worth commenting. Obviously you have very low standards.Not worth commenting. Obviously you are extremely ignorant and have never been to Medellin.

Villainy

04-09-22, 01:24

I have never been to Mexico City so I cannot comment on the comparison, but I must say that what you wrote above would be centrepiece subject matter if I were to write a Ironic comedy sketch about MDE. These are the very things that I dislike about MDE, or that I thiink are so overrated that they are laughable. But hey, each to our own. Go ahead and enjoy the inspiring Colombian food, warm and dry MDE climate and interesting tourist attractions.Your comments call into question whether you've been to Medellin either. There are a plethora of excellent restaurants in the Poblado area and also in the Parque Laureles area. The climate in Medellin is widely considered one of the best possible. Why don't you share your profound wisdom. Which cities have a better climate? Tourist attractions? I guess that depends a lot on what your interests are.

Here are a few other considerations:

Coffee? Most restaurants routinely have great coffee. Why? The beans are picked and roasted daily or every other day. The beans didn't sit in a warehouse for a month.

https://www.colombia.co/en/trade-with-colombia/exports/colombian-coffee-worlds-favorite/

How about the wealth of fruits and vegetables? They have a 12 month growing season. So Colombians don't need to add color chemicals or preservatives to keep the produce looking good so that they can extend the shelf-life. Here if fruits or vegetables start to look worn they replace them and send the aging produce to the poorer barrios. Have you ever tasted a Pitaya or Granadilla??

Colombia is one of the most bio-diverse countries in the world.

https://theculturetrip.com/south-america/colombia/articles/heres-why-colombia-is-one-of-the-most-biodiverse-countries-on-earth/

What about beautiful women?

https://www.scoopwhoop.com/inothernews/countries-beautiful-women/

They rate Colombia as #5 for the most beautiful women. I think there might be some favoritism in that ranking. But this is something that is ALWAYS subjective.

Medellin is the most modern city in Colombia. They have an ever-expanding metro system and metro-cables that take people in gondola style lifts up the sides of the mountains that profile the city.

Medellin doesn't have horrible pollution like some other large cities and many areas of Medellin are flat so walking or biking is a pleasure. The altitude is not oppressive like MEX, BOG or UIO.

BTW on Sundays Medellin closes down some of the major avenues for "Ciclovia". This allows people to jog, walk, ride their bike, walk their pet, push their baby carriage on a paved street for most of the Sunday mornings.

Elvis 2008

04-09-22, 01:46

Remind me again why these guys do not just get a woman that cares about them and not the money. For some reason you are acting like these type of women (who must have the absolute best sex) do not exist, because you refuse to mention them. It is either ho or sugar baby (ho lite) with you.You reminded me of the last time I had a regular date. There was a secretary type that was hungry and asked if I wanted to go to dinner. She was my age, overweight, and had health issues but she was friendly and a pleasant enough person. We start talking and she starts interviewing me as a boyfriend. This is not in my home city, and I wanted to ask her if she really thought she had a chance but I went with it. We start talking and I tell her that I doubted I would get married again. I also told her that I will not commit to one woman but I do not expect that commitment back. She then tells me, "Oh, I could never date a man like that. " I wanted to so badly say, "Oh, darn, I will have to spend the night with my sugar baby who was a former college cheerleader. "

Thing is the sugar baby was costing me just 20% of what I made that day, and I would listen to all my friends with their "my women like for me" * their assess off. They had to deal with the "I really need to know where we stand" and "I want to make sure I am not wasting my time" and those were some of the nicer comments. I have a female friend who went off on her boyfriend so hard in front of me she gave me a fucking headache.

And it is not like their women were a better bang for the buck. The guys were paying for the dates and fun things, and they were not sure sex was even a sure thing. Then there were the expensive gifts with holidays and birthdays. They would * about their sex lives, their GFs, their wives, and ask me about mine, and I would say, "Never been better". The guys said, "Oh, but you are paying for it. I could never do that. " I never told them that the price they were paying IMO was higher than what I was paying.

My female friend, a hottie herself, tried to tell me what I needed to do to get real girls like her friends. Unbeknownst to her, I banged one of her friends, offered her a part as my SB, and after an audition, I rejected her.

Let me be straight with you Mr. E. I was having the time of my life but the payment was as much protection for good behavior as it was for sex. These women were beautiful, great in bed, pleasant to be around, and like the typical attractive American woman, absolutely fucking batshit crazy and when the craziness got too much, I dumped them.

Now a lot of my sugar babies wanted to be my GF with hopes of marriage, but I always felt like they were angling for money. I could have been wrong, so when Latin women refused to take money, I was kind of the same way. "No, you take it. I do not want to deal with crazy" but eventually I saw them not asking for money as a compliment.

Point of all this is you are thinking your not paying for money is a static thing, and it is dynamic. I had sugar baby prospects who became GF, and I saw the GFs and wives of other guys as bigger hos than any SB. Maybe you are not paying for head Mr. E but to paraphrase Rodney Dangerfield, I think that you are paying for it with headache.

Mr Enternational

04-09-22, 02:02

When husbands approach their wives for sex, they want them; there's no conditions around it and it's all about the sex. Wives, on the other hand, can place conditions around sex. This is supported by the statistics that men who do more housework get more sex.If you are a married man or in a committed relationahip and you accept your wife or significant other putting conditions on sex then you are the mfn fool. If you will put up with it then why not? I have never had those kinds of problems since I was old enough to date. That shit does not run in my family. I guess to some guys a skirt is more comfortable than a pair of pants.

So maybe you are not giving them money but are you giving them something of value? If you are, then you are deluding yourself into thinking a ho is not one. You seem to be complaining about the demands women are putting on you.The only things I give a woman that is not a hooker is my time and companionship. Do I really seem like the type to let a woman put demands on me? It only takes me 1 second to tell a chick to kick rocks. I don't play those kind of games. Plenty more where that one came from.

Paulie97

04-09-22, 02:25

Well obviously you and I have had very different experiences in MDE and CDMX. It's not that. DramaFree11 is a twerp that wants to swagger around a hooker forum pretending like he has "game" and higher "standards" than others. It's an ego boost that he can't pull off in the real world because he has none of that. But yea, you can find a range of experiences in Medellin, from "professionals" or girls who dress well that claim they are, to college students, streetwalkers, to everything in between. There's also great scenery, interesting cultural events, and friendly people to be experienced. If he's spent any time and looked around a bit he knows all this. But he probably hasn't, even if he's been there at all. He just needs something to complain about when he's not focused on the latest right wingnut conspiracy theories. Wink.

JustTK

04-09-22, 03:57

JustTK

04-09-22, 03:59

So when you pick up a puta and it turns out to be a man. What does your mouth do whilst 69 ing?As I menioned, I am not attracted to men, only young women. So how could she turn out to be a man?

MarquisdeSade1

04-09-22, 04:06

As I menioned, I am not attracted to men, only young women. So how could she turn out to be a man?"I don't seek them out. But if a girl is sexy, why exclude her (or him)? Why be prejudiced against someone based on what some doctor said 20 years ago?

I am not interested in knowing if someone is scientifically female. I mean, I don't want children, so why should I care if she has ovaries? But if a girl looks sexy and is happy to give me a BJ or let me FK her in her vagina or arse, then I am a happy man. Her sex doesn't come in to it."

So you like young women? Define young.

TheDerilious

04-09-22, 04:10

I have found that most Latin American chicas like guys that are overweight. In fact, there was a recent article on-line that I read that confirmed it.

IMHO it comes from the fact that most Latin Americans are relatively poor and anyone who is overweight is seen as someone who can provide food.I honestly don't know where you guys get this stuff. It's an egotistical way of thinking and it's reason why so many don't like westerners (and Americans in particular) when they come to partake in the sex industry; they feel we look down upon them as peasants and that we are royalty entitled to our ego. We often come into countries and assume that people have the mindset of feudal peasants, living in hovels without running water and eating dirt / trash. Yes, many third world nations do have a lot of poor people and clearly the floor is lower there than in more developed countries. But the majority of people are just poor, like poor people in the US or anywhere else. They have shit jobs, make minimum wage, don't have much, and have to grind to survive. Millions of Americans have to do the same exact thing everyday and the majority of people in Colombia do the same. We can't lose sight of the fact that most people we meet in these countries are not the average citizen but a specific, smaller subset that has grown around tourism and sex work. Hell, the majority of mongers I have met from the West are the same poor saps you meet in these countries, it's just that their money is worth more outside their home country so they can pretend to be rich and high class while crying about how domestic prices have gone up too much. The majority of guys in Colombia are average / fat, office workers, we just don't see them because they aren't running around tourists areas during the day, they are at their jobs. The majority of women there, after the age of 30 or so get fat as well. Go to a local soccer match and tell me it doesn't look exactly like the crowd at an American football game.

For my part, I have finished up my trip to Medellin and I'm writing up my experiences and thoughts. Similar to my Rio adventures, I tried out a few different types of hookups, with a small focus on escort agencies to better understand what they all provide since most of the long-term mongers here don't like them but can't provide any information on it either. As with all of my trips, I like to try it all to best understand what each price point provides and to give new visitors an actual ability to understand what they will get. An early tldr but the agencies are mostly fine. The price point is slightly higher, the service is fairly consistent since they are pros, but I had some FB girls that were better, though they were pricey as well.

FRobertson

04-09-22, 04:24

So when you pick up a puta and it turns out to be a man.

What does your mouth do whilst 69 ing?Keep it shut and make it a 68?

Huacho

04-09-22, 06:10

Keep it shut and make it a 68?Yeah, "68" is my favorite form of sex: blow me and I owe you one. Or there is 70. That's 69 with a finger up your ass.

Osteoknot

04-09-22, 08:07

I honestly don't know where you guys get this stuff. It's an egotistical way of thinking and it's reason why so many don't like westerners (and Americans in particular) when they come to partake in the sex industry; they feel we look down upon them as peasants and that we are royalty entitled to our ego. We often come into countries and assume that people have the mindset of feudal peasants, living in hovels without running water and eating dirt / trash. Yes, many third world nations do have a lot of poor people and clearly the floor is lower there than in more developed countries. But the majority of people are just poor, like poor people in the US or anywhere else. They have shit jobs, make minimum wage, don't have much, and have to grind to survive. Millions of Americans have to do the same exact thing everyday and the majority of people in Colombia do the same. We can't lose sight of the fact that most people we meet in these countries are not the average citizen but a specific, smaller subset that has grown around tourism and sex work. Hell, the majority of mongers I have met from the West are the same poor saps you meet in these countries, it's just that their money is worth more outside their home country so they can pretend to be rich and high class while crying about how domestic prices have gone up too much. The majority of guys in Colombia are average / fat, office workers, we just don't see them because they aren't running around tourists areas during the day, they are at their jobs. The majority of women there, after the age of 30 or so get fat as well. Go to a local soccer match and tell me it doesn't look exactly like the crowd at an American football game..My subject line was a joke because your set-up was too good to ignore, and if you can laugh at yourself then there is still some hope for you, jeje.

You weave a path that I won't say is wrong because I am not going to take the time to look up data for stuff that is empirically obvious to me. Let's just say my experiences are different. I don't see how PV Monger's statement that obesity in Latin American countries can be a sign of being able to provide for others is "egotistical'. I think you meant "ethnocentric" but I would disagree on both accounts. I already commented the same thing in this string about how in certain cultures obesity is a sign of affluence, and I have personally seen it in Africa, too.

Another phenomenon I see in Medellin is that girls "fatten" up during times when they have more money and food because there are many times when they have to go a day or more without eating and they count on using the extra fat as energy stores. I don't think I have ever seen or heard of that in the USA where even the poor as a general rule, don't go hungry. I believe that mindset in the USA of knowingly going without food is "foreign" to North Americans. Have you ever been to one of the national food banks in the USA that gives away free food? I have many times through a couple of connections. You will find some of the highest obesity rates there where people collect free food.

You are also a little confused about the archaic term "third world" which you mix with more appropriate terminology, "developed" nations. There is more than one person here confused about that. For the record, Colombia is an undeveloped nation on the tipping point of becoming a developed a nation, and that transition only occurs once in a country's history. There is too much that goes into that to explain further here.

Comparing the poor people in Colombia where the poverty rate is at least eight times higher than in the USA is also full of pitfalls. In a nutshell, poverty is the exception to the rule in North America, while here in Colombia, poverty rules. Very different socioeconomic culture. I'd really like to see where you got the impression that the "majority of guys in Colombia are fat office workers" and were you talking about Colombians or visitors from other countries? Your writing can be a little confusing at times.

My casual observation in all kinds of venues show obesity rates to be much lower in Medellin, and especially at the high end where I very rarely see morbidly obese people in Medellin, but morbid obesity is so rampant in the USA that we have become numb to it. When I was losing weight in the USA but still obese, people would tell me all the time, "You don't need to lose weight" because there were so many morbidly obese people around, I didn't look as fat in comparison.

I somewhat agree with your assessment of the average mongerer from the USA, but again don't see the parallel you try to draw to people here being the same way. Maybe this was one of your points, hard to tell, that the the sex workers are doing a legal vocation here and on average are better off than their fellow citizens. You also commented about the subset of people we meet in the sex industry and projected that to other users here and the general population in Medellin. What that really means is that you don't know what is going on with the majority of the population in Colombia, by your own admission.

You promised that you have more info coming about hook-ups and price points you experienced that probably a lot of guys here will find helpful. I have very little experience in those venues, by choice. I spend a lot of my energy on getting to know the "real" culture and people of Medellin. You may certainly have the last word on this thread if you are so inclined, I will be moving on. Asti Out.

ShooBree

04-09-22, 11:24

You reminded me of the last time I had a regular date. There was a secretary type that was hungry and asked if I wanted to go to dinner. She was my age, overweight, and had health issues but she was friendly and a pleasant enough person. We start talking and she starts interviewing me as a boyfriend. This is not in my home city, and I wanted to ask her if she really thought she had a chance but I went with it. We start talking and I tell her that I doubted I would get married again. I also told her that I will not commit to one woman but I do not expect that commitment back. She then tells me, "Oh, I could never date a man like that. " I wanted to so badly say, "Oh, darn, I will have to spend the night with my sugar baby who was a former college cheerleader. "

Thing is the sugar baby was costing me just 20% of what I made that day, and I would listen to all my friends with their "my women like for me" * their assess off. They had to deal with the "I really need to know where we stand" and "I want to make sure I am not wasting my time" and those were some of the nicer comments. I have a female friend who went off on her boyfriend so hard in front of me she gave me a fucking headache.

And it is not like their women were a better bang for the buck. The guys were paying for the dates and fun things, and they were not sure sex was even a sure thing. Then there were the expensive gifts with holidays and birthdays. They would * about their sex lives, their GFs, their wives, and ask me about mine, and I would say, "Never been better". The guys said, "Oh, but you are paying for it. I could never do that. " I never told them that the price they were paying IMO was higher than what I was paying..I believe what Mr E says is true, but I have a feeling that he is not picky when it comes to looks.

DramaFree11

04-09-22, 14:08

It's not that. DramaFree11 is a twerp that wants to swagger around a hooker forum pretending like he has "game" and higher "standards" than others. It's an ego boost that he can't pull off in the real world because he has none of that. But yea, you can find a range of experiences in Medellin, from "professionals" or girls who dress well that claim they are, to college students, streetwalkers, to everything in between. There's also great scenery, interesting cultural events, and friendly people to be experienced. If he's spent any time and looked around a bit he knows all this. But he probably hasn't, even if he's been there at all. He just needs something to complain about when he's not focused on the latest right wingnut conspiracy theories. Wink.Nope, I was there 91 days and hated. Sorry, MDE is glorified GTO. Most of the major cities in Mxico are so much better then MDE.

MarquisdeSade1

04-09-22, 17:40

JK you are drawing out your kindred spirits!

JustTK

04-09-22, 17:47

So you like young women? Define young.Why? You don't understand what young is? Usually relates to smthg that has not yet aged. In relation to women, a woman that has not physically matured to middle age.

RamDavidson84

04-09-22, 18:32

Medellin has the upper hand when it comes to food besides tacos. Bandeja Paisa, Pollo Broaster, Costillas, Punta de Anca, Solomo, Sancocho, Arepas, the list goes on and on. The weather is perfect, not too hot, not too cold like Bogota, afternoon rain showers that are refreshing and never seem to last too long, cleaner streets, mountains, tons of shit to go do (guatape day trip, Parque de las aguas, parque del Norte, parque explora, comuna 13) tons of Centro comerciales, Poblado, as mentioned there is a casa scene, the ground zero / Botero centro scene, parque lleras, Venezuelan women are way better looking and give way better service than Mexican women, and also the Colombianas. The people are nicer, the culture is more open and inviting, the place is amazing.

Mexico City: trash everywhere on the streets, especially anillo de circunvalacion. The hotels have fucking cockroaches, so many people everywhere you have to walk in the fucking streets bcuz you can't squeeze in on the sidewalks, same deal with the metro, 50 people in the doors 50 people out the doors all at the same time, with people pushing and shoving you.I have spent a lot of time in both Mexico and Colombia. It's this simple: If you don't have good Spanish and you have any kind of budget, for most people they will enjoy Colombia / Medellin more. It is far easier to find quick, cheap, decent pussy in Colombia. Now if you speak Spanish and you are very well off financially- Mexico, "especially Guadalajara, Monterrey, and CDMX", is slightly better. It has better food, safer, people are friendlier and won't look at you half the time like a sex tourist. The top talent girls are just as hot as the Colombians, but their attitudes are just more pleasant and I enjoy the personalities of the Mexicanas over the Colombianas. They are better company outside of sex and that is usually very important to someone paying top dollar for talent. For anyone wanting to do a multi-city trip, again if your budget permits, the beach cities of Cancun, Puerta Vallarta, and even Mazatlan are all much nicer than Cartagena. Cartagena has a ton of hot women you can score at cheap prices, but the city is kinda dirty and the people just hassle the fuck out of you nonstop. I still love Cartagena too, its just if you have a large budget like some ISG members, I would much rather stay in Cancun with a few sugar babies vs the hussle-fuck of Cartagena. All that being said, I am sure there are plenty of dudes, no matter the budget who would still pick Colombia over Mexico, some people like the more gritty urban environment of Colombia and Medellin does have the best weather of any city I have ever been too. In terms of views though, nothing and I mean nothing tops the Mountains you will see at Sunset riding through Monterrey or riding through the Sierra Madres into Mazatlan, I wouldn't trade have the putas I have fucked for those memories.

Unlimited Budget and Spanish Speaker= Mexico.

95% of ISG / Budget / Shitty Spanish= Colombia.

MarquisdeSade1

04-09-22, 18:45

Why? You don't understand what young is? Usually relates to smthg that has not yet aged. In relation to women, a woman that has not physically matured to middle age.Can you throw out a number.

DramaFree11

04-09-22, 19:13

I have spent a lot of time in both Mexico and Colombia. It's this simple: If you don't have good Spanish and you have any kind of budget, for most people they will enjoy Colombia / Medellin more. It is far easier to find quick, cheap, decent pussy in Colombia. Now if you speak Spanish and you are very well off financially- Mexico, "especially Guadalajara, Monterrey, and CDMX", is slightly better. It has better food, safer, people are friendlier and won't look at you half the time like a sex tourist. The top talent girls are just as hot as the Colombians, but their attitudes are just more pleasant and I enjoy the personalities of the Mexicanas over the Colombianas. They are better company outside of sex and that is usually very important to someone paying top dollar for talent. For anyone wanting to do a multi-city trip, again if your budget permits, the beach cities of Cancun, Puerta Vallarta, and even Mazatlan are all much nicer than Cartagena. Cartagena has a ton of hot women you can score at cheap prices, but the city is kinda dirty and the people just hassle the fuck out of you nonstop. I still love Cartagena too, its just if you have a large budget like some ISG members, I would much rather stay in Cancun with a few sugar babies vs the hussle-fuck of Cartagena. All that being said, I am sure there are plenty of dudes, no matter the budget who would still pick Colombia over Mexico, some people like the more gritty urban environment of Colombia and Medellin does have the best weather of any city I have ever been too. In terms of views though, nothing and I mean nothing tops the Mountains you will see at Sunset riding through Monterrey or riding through the Sierra Madres into Mazatlan, I wouldn't trade have the putas I have fucked for those memories..Totally Correct, great report!

Mr Enternational

04-09-22, 20:31

We start talking and I tell her that I doubted I would get married again. I also told her that I will not commit to one woman but I do not expect that commitment back. She then tells me, "Oh, I could never date a man like that. "Women trip me out with shit like that. I always ask well what happened to the last man you dated that was not "a man like that?" If it was all that then you would still be together. So maybe it does not matter as much as you think. Maybe you need to stop being selfish and you can stay with someone. That gets them thinking.

Yesterday my girl in Philippines asked me to marry her. Uhhh, No. I guess it was worth a try though.

PedroMorales

04-09-22, 21:03

some people like the more gritty urban environment of Colombia and Medellin does have the best weather of any city I have ever been too. In terms of views though, nothing and I mean nothing tops the Mountains you will see at Sunset riding.Plenty of Mexico is touch as nails and poor as church mice. The rats of Mexico City are something else, armies of them, big as cats. Hookers carry sticks around to ward them off.

You only see the mountains after it rains. That is why most Mexicans FK off at weekend, to escape the stew-fog.

JustTK

04-09-22, 22:28

Can you throw out a number.Do you mean a range of numbers? Young encompasses a range of years. What ages exactly? It depends on the individual. Some girls look young in to their 30's. Some look middle aged by their late 20's.

What do you prefer? I will send you my Grandmother's telephone number if you like? I must warn you though, she's been dead 20 years.

MarquisdeSade1

04-09-22, 23:08

Do you mean a range of numbers? Young encompasses a range of years. What ages exactly? It depends on the individual. Some girls look young in to their 30's. Some look middle aged by their late 20's.

What do you prefer? I will send you my Grandmother's telephone number if you like? I must warn you though, she's been dead 20 years.You're the one that stated he prefers young females? Young is a subjective word.

I'm asking for you to be more specific, don't be scared, throw out a minimum and max in numbers.

We are just a bunch of anon mongers here LOL.

Why are you asking me what I like? Do you always deflect by answering a question with a question.

Shut off Echo and the Bunnymen and man up LOL.

Incrociatore

04-09-22, 23:18

What about beautiful women?

https://www.scoopwhoop.com/inothernews/countries-beautiful-women/

They rate Colombia as #5 for the most beautiful women. I think there might be some favoritism in that ranking. But this is something that is ALWAYS subjective.No man, Colombian girls aren't so beautiful. In terms of quality Sao Paulo is much better than Medellin. And, in general, I found Brazilian girls more participative. Even thought, there are many missiles in Brazil as well. In Brazil I got laid with a girl I met on Tinder, for free, in Medellin I always had to pay. Medellin is good because you can get girls on Facebook, and it's also good for El Centro, since you can find some pearls there. I can't speak for Mexico because I have never been there. But I would never pick up Colombia if it wasn't so cheap, not if I have to choose in relation to the beauty.

TheDerilious

04-09-22, 23:28

My subject line was a joke because your set-up was too good to ignore, and if you can laugh at yourself then there is still some hope for you, jeje.

You weave a path that I won't say is wrong because I am not going to take the time to look up data for stuff that is empirically obvious to me. Let's just say my experiences are different. I don't see how PV Monger's statement that obesity in Latin American countries can be a sign of being able to provide for others is "egotistical'. I think you meant "ethnocentric" but I would disagree on both accounts. I already commented the same thing in this string about how in certain cultures obesity is a sign of affluence, and I have personally seen it in Africa, too.

Comparing the poor people in Colombia where the poverty rate is at least eight times higher than in the USA is also full of pitfalls. In a nutshell, poverty is the exception to the rule in North America, while here in Colombia, poverty rules. Very different socioeconomic culture.

I somewhat agree with your assessment of the average mongerer from the USA, but again don't see the parallel you try to draw to people here being the same way. Maybe this was one of your points, hard to tell, that the the sex workers are doing a legal vocation here and on average are better off than their fellow citizens. You also commented about the subset of people we meet in the sex industry and projected that to other users here and the general population in Medellin. What that really means is that you don't know what is going on with the majority of the population in Colombia, by your own admission.I didn't expect an essay on the subject but I'll focus on a few comments since I don't want to bloat page eviscerating the misinformation.

Your understanding of poverty in the United States is laughable and, yes, very egotistical so I'd argue you need to spend some time learning rather than using your "obvious empirical observations" because it is clearly misinformed. Others have pointed out how foolish your statements are but if you think that poor people are fat because of "all of the free food" then you are clearly talking without thinking. There is usually a large distinction between homeless and severe poverty and general concept of poverty that also encapsulates the working poor. For general poverty, it is fairly well correlated with obesity in the modern and developing world because cheap, long-lasting, and accessible food is usually bad for you. Combined with worse education and less ability to live a healthy lifestyle and you see obesity spring up in those communities. This is not a forum to educate people on the basics of terms like working poor, living wage, and food scarcity so I'll leave those with you and hopefully you focus some of your wit to read a bit.

In China, people drink hot water rather cold. Many westerners go there and pontificate on how it must be an artifact of the past where the water was dirty and, therefor, it was safer to drink boiled water. But they learn that is not the case and it's actually just a cultural phenomena relating to "humors" of the body, balance, and other concepts codified during Confucian times due to the purported health benefits of tea. My statements on the point of South American thoughts on fatness and weight relate to this as it is not a history of "not having enough to eat" or idolizing the Romanesque figure ala the middle ages but rather a simple cultural outgrowth of bad health education, a sexual culture that values busty-ness and thickness due to inherent body types, and the staple foods that are historically prevalent. Hispanic culture actually has shifted somewhat in South America over the past few decades to one of somewhat better eating, but more under the notion of working out to counteract it, rather than a strict dietary regime. Under your misguided metrics of "poverty" and skipping meals, the people of Asia would be pounding out food and "valuing" fatness and yet you don't see any semblance of that whatsoever. So yes, you are right that it is somewhat ethnocentrism (you may not be aware of historical trends of these countries) but it is also ego (ascribing outdated feudal beliefs to people you perceive as poor and lesser and not desiring to spend the time to actually learn).

I, as well, will leave it here since any further comments are irrelevant to this forum. My next post will be on the experiences I have had here. My post is a bit harsh and I understand that, but it feels relevant for fellow mongers to better understand the places they are going to avoid bad encounters. My best advice to people is to imagine if you were poor tomorrow, would you just inherently value an obese woman or even find them more attractive solely by that metric? I think we all know the answer to that. Good luck.

Paulie97

04-09-22, 23:30

You are also a little confused about the archaic term "third world" which you mix with more appropriate terminology, "developed" nations. There is more than one person here confused about that. For the record, Colombia is an undeveloped nation on the tipping point of becoming a developed a nation, and that transition only occurs once in a country's history. There is too much that goes into that to explain further here.We'd hardly want you to explain anything further given your propensity for inaccuracies. And given that you are a stickler for using the correct terminology, Colombia would be classified as a "developing nation," and one quite far along when compared to others in the same class. From Investipedia:

"Colombia meets every criterion of an emerging market economy. Its GDP per capita, at $6,428.676 as of 2019, falls well below the developed country threshold but ranks much higher than most of its peers in the developing world. 65279; Its 2020 HDI was 0.767; again, insufficient for a developed country but not far behind."

https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/090915/colombia-emerging-market-economy.asp#text=Colombia%20 meets%20 every%20 criterion%20 of, country%20 but%20 not%20 far%20 behind.

Comparing the poor people in Colombia where the poverty rate is at least eight times higher than in the USA is also full of pitfalls. In a nutshell, poverty is the exception to the rule in North America, while here in Colombia, poverty rules. Very different socioeconomic culture. Not even close. The poverty rate for Colombia according to measures from 2019 was 35.7 percent. That's far from "eight times" the US rate of about 11%. It's also far from demonstrating that "poverty rules" in Colombia as such exists among a minority. Do some research rather than pontificating conclusions based on the places where you spend your time, Botero Plaza El Centro Medellin, $8 barrio hotels, etc. Such is an obligation of someone with the educational attainments that you claim to have.

https://databank.worldbank.org/data/download/poverty/987B9C90-CB9F-4D93-AE8C-750588BF00QA/AM2020/Global_POVEQ_COL.pdf

Elvis 2008

04-10-22, 00:19

Nope, I was there 91 days and hated. Sorry, MDE is glorified GTO. Most of the major cities in Mxico are so much better then MDE.Paulie is attacking you because you have posted bad stuff about Biden. Just put him on ignore.

Elvis 2008

04-10-22, 01:00

Women trip me out with shit like that. I always ask well what happened to the last man you dated that was not "a man like that?" If it was all that then you would still be together. So maybe it does not matter as much as you think. Maybe you need to stop being selfish and you can stay with someone. That gets them thinking.

Yesterday my girl in Philippines asked me to marry her. Uhhh, No. I guess it was worth a try though.Yeah, I think we have different views on money. I had this stunning wife and as soon as I made good money, she was like, "I can be a witch now because a divorce is going to cost you". Because my wife was a witch, I did not have the incentive to save money because she was going to get half of it. That is why guys do not get a divorce. In my case, I felt like it would be hard on my son and I would have lost a lot. The thing about the ex was not only did she not deserve half because she was draining me emotionally and financially.

I had a friend tell me "she really loves you a lot". In fact, she said it the last time I talked to her, and she still looks good. Putting up with a woman like this who "loves me and is not just there for money" was worse than anything. I enjoyed being around my SBs. I could not stand being around my ex, and I still cannot. She is mad at herself for blowing it with me and takes it out on me.

So with both the women, the one I had a "date" with and your chick who was asking about marriage, I would throw both in the trash. That gal asking for marriage is telling me she is a ho. The gal I was with I wanted to say to, "Honey, you are not that great. You are not worthy my monogamy. Even more so, you are not worth my time. This date was charity. You have a massively inflated opinion of your self-worth."

So maybe Mr. E you can put up with these crazy witches and keep the money in your pocket. I just cannot, and my take on money is much different than yours, and I will make it a different post.

Huacho

04-10-22, 05:14

Translation key:

Sugar baby = ho.

Seeking girl = ho.

Student = ho.

Semi-pro = ho.

Part-timer = ho.

Greedy ex-wife = ho.

Ho, ho, ho. Merry Christmas. That's the difference between Tiger Woods and Santa Claus. Santa stops after three hos.

OakTownPaul

04-10-22, 06:47

Totally Correct, great report!I appreciate the "reasoning" that goes along with your report. It is reasoning that separates us men from the women. LOL. I agree with your praise of Medellin weather. (Many visits for me.) I am going to Cartagena and Bogota for the first time this year. To explore. I am on a relatively decent sized budget, and have very poor Spanish skills, so I will appreciate these cities for the opportunities they provide.

RamDavidson84

04-10-22, 07:40

Plenty of Mexico is touch as nails and poor as church mice. The rats of Mexico City are something else, armies of them, big as cats. Hookers carry sticks around to ward them off.

You only see the mountains after it rains. That is why most Mexicans FK off at weekend, to escape the stew-fog.Duh, and the sky is blue, even here in the states, Ghetto Philly is a place I would never step foot around after dark unless I absolutely had too. If you stay in a city in Mexico, stay in the nicer tourist parts like a normal tourist and I promise you that you will never see rats the size of cats and the 4-star hotels are all on par with luxury your accustomed to in the states / Europe. I have driven from city to city in Mexico and the level of poverty between the cities is something Americans cannot comprehend, many people just looking to survive day to day. The level of inequality in Mexico is astounding, the nicer parts of the big cities are all on par or close to it with the cities of the USA, it's outside the cities that you see destitute, those who are struggling to survive, the ones who will do anything to get into the USA Not every suburb of course, but between the cities, the towns are in extreme poverty for the most part from what I have seen.

JustTK

04-10-22, 16:43

You're the one that stated he prefers young females? Young is a subjective word.
don't be scared, throw out a minimum and max in numbers.
Scared? What is there to be scared of? I am not from the USA and not subject to their authoritarian overreaching laws.

I answered your vague question as best I could. I agree that it is subjective, so why are you pressing for a precise number? I already wrote:

Young encompasses a range of years. What ages exactly? It depends on the individual. Some girls look young in to their 30's. Some look middle aged by their late 20's.

At the lower end, . Well, bear in mind that I wrote I am attracted to "young women", not "young females". When does a female become a woman? The same subjectivity applies. It varies. One this is for sure, I don't enjoy having sex with girls that have no experience, so I tend to avoid immature and inexperienced girls.

Point to note. I use the word "girls" to describe all females below middle age. I use the word "women" to describe females that have matured in to adulthood. So a girl can also be a woman, whereas a child could not.

Elvis 2008

04-11-22, 00:43

So maybe Mr. E you can put up with these crazy witches and keep the money in your pocket. I just cannot, and my take on money is much different than yours, and I will make it a different post.Mr. E,

You remind of my grandparents. They barely kept their heads above water in the Great Depression and as such were very tight with money. First my grandfather lost his job and then my grandmother hung on to hers during the Great Depression. She was a colder woman but incredibly talented.

My father grew up in a 3rd world country with literally no money but he begged, did odd jobs, and eventually worked his butt off in school such that he got a good job. He then came to the USA and did great. Because he had fallen off the cliff and made it, he was not obsessed with saving.

So my father did not have the same tight attitude with money as my grandparents. Thing is that because he had so little when he was a kid when he was an adult he wanted things / stuff, and he bought a lot of them. With me with a few exceptions, things / stuff are a pain in the ass.

So Mr. E, you are probably more like grandparents. For them, the stress of having no money correlated to unhappiness. With me, money has not correlated to happiness, and I do not think it did with my father. Studies have been done showing when you make over $60,000 per year, happiness does not go up.

All in all, what I guess I am saying is that you are willing to put up with worse behavior if it does not cost you financially. I would rather pay a fair amount then have to listen to the incessant nagging about wasting my time, when are we going to get married ETC. That crap just irks me to no end.

DramaFree11

04-11-22, 00:46

Paulie is attacking you because you have posted bad stuff about Biden. Just put him on ignore.Yes, Nobody listen's to Pauline, he is delusional. I have finally found one thing, that makes me appreciate MDE, Biden and his band of brothers that are destroying the economy. If they are not careful we are not just talking about a few years to recover we are talking about a decade or more. What they are doing just makes no sense, but I am not sure they care. They are in so over their head. Hopefully they will bring someone into help, but I doubt. I almost feel sorry for Biden, he does not even know what is going on, but he has surrounded himself with people that are total liberals.

DramaFree11

04-11-22, 00:53

Mexico City is on the order of London, Paris, and NY, and the weather is better. Mexico City is one of those cities you would have to work at to be bored. There is always something going on, and the city has an incredible energy to it. The museums and parks are world class.

There is a Netflix show called Somebody feed Phil where he went to Mexico City, and I followed in his footsteps and ate at as many of the same places as he did. Unfuckingbelievable.

Then you have every good chain in Mexico and the USA there. The purists may scoff at this, but I took my gal to California Pizza Kitchen to try the Chicken Waldorf salad. I told her it is the best salad I have ever had in my life. She ordered it, loved it, and now insists we go to CPK every trip. Every steak house I have been to in Mexico has been better than anything in Colombia or Medellin.

Mexico City has a rainy season but even still there is less rain than Medellin. I will say Medellin does have Mexico City beat air pollution wise and with traffic, but I do not know what Gabacho is talking about with hotel costs. The Barcelo in Reforma in Mexico City is half the cost of the Medellin Marriott and is a nicer hotel. You can get 4 star hotels for under $100 and 3 star for $50 or so..Great report. I would say Mexico City is almost as good as Moscow, the city is just amazing. Moscow is finished for me, I had already made that decision prior to the war. With the combination MTY and CDMX, I have the best of both of both worlds. , so no need to fly across the world. The only reason I would have gone back to Moscow was for the discos and nightlife, but that had died down big time and this was before Covid. I can only imagine what it is like now. The war sucks!

JustTK

04-12-22, 18:44

You're the one that stated he prefers young females.Thought you might like to read this. Nothing wrong with learning:

https://www.nature.com/articles/518288a

MarquisdeSade1

04-12-22, 19:08

Thought you might like to read this. Nothing wrong with learning:

https://www.nature.com/articles/518288aI'm curious about your opinion of zoophilia and necrophilia?

If you have any photos please feel free to post them.

We're all adults here, at least biologically.

Mr Enternational

04-12-22, 19:19

Mr. E,

You remind of my grandparents. They barely kept their heads above water in the Great Depression and as such were very tight with money.I don't get it. I am not tight with money. I buy everything that I want. And I have never felt the want or need to give it away to women. There is no material thing or activity that I want that I do not have and none of my things are in disrepair. I take good care of my things.

I can go out and spend a few hundred dollars on steak when I want. I have tons of clothes and shoes both tailor made that I have never even worn. So where are you getting that I am tight with money?

This is generally a term used by women to try to shame guys that will not spend on them or for people that desperately need something but will not spend the money for it.

So Mr. E, you are probably more like grandparents. For them, the stress of having no money correlated to unhappiness.I do not understand where you are getting this from. I have never said anything about money equating to happiness. I am the same happy as I have always been. Now I just have more stuff and can buy what I want when I want.

All in all, what I guess I am saying is that you are willing to put up with worse behavior if it does not cost you financially.What are you talking about? I do not put up with bad behavior at all. I already said it only takes me 1 second to tell a chick to kick rocks. I do not beg chicks to do right by me and I do not give them 1000 chances. I simply tell her goodbye and get another. It is not complicated.

Are you saying that you have to throw money at chicks to keep them on their best behavior and if you do not throw money at them then their behavior is worse? Not sure what money has to do with how a chick acts. But I suppose if you need to do that then I would advise you not to run out of money. That could get very expensive.

Elvis 2008

04-12-22, 20:29

Are you saying that you have to throw money at chicks to keep them on their best behavior and if you do not throw money at them then their behavior is worse?Uh, yeah. You do not think people act differently based on money? What planet are you on?

Not sure what money has to do with how a chick acts. But I suppose if you need to do that then I would advise you not to run out of money. That could get very expensive.LOL. More expensive than my ex-wife?

Are you sure you were married? Was it like for a month or something?

Villainy

04-12-22, 21:52

I don't get it. .....

I do not understand where you are getting this from. .....

What are you talking about?..You don't understand it? How could you. You're talking to a narcissist. He seriously believes he knows all and needs to teach all.

Perhaps, you've been reading this forum for awhile.

You might remember that said rock star wannabe knew everything about CoVid. This was when it first appeared. He lectured any and all that there would not be more than 80,000 deaths in the US. Of course, we are at 1 million now. He explained that the vaccination doesn't work and that instead the anti-parasite drug Invermectin was the solution. Well, a full on study was conducted and the New England Journal of Medicine published the results about a week ago. Verdict: Non effective against stopping the virus and not effective as a treatment. I guess his favorite podcast was full of it.

Of course, that isn't all, he has taken to lecturing on legal matters (Bogota thread), politics (Opinion thread) and now on relationships and what works best yada yada yada. But let us ponder this point. He said he is divorced and now has the relationship of all relationships with a sugar-baby. Does that sound like someone who should be lecturing on how to conduct your relationships? Does it sound like someone a sane person should listen to?

KilledSoul

04-12-22, 23:19

Thought you might like to read this. Nothing wrong with learning:

https://www.nature.com/articles/518288aNothing wrong in thinking that anyone without XX chromosome will never be a woman.

JustTK

04-13-22, 00:14

Nothing wrong in thinking that anyone without XX chromosome will never be a woman.There are many things wrong with it. Read the artilcle and you will see a few examples.

JjBee62

04-13-22, 01:46

Mr Enternational

04-13-22, 04:15

Uh, yeah. You do not think people act differently based on money? What planet are you on?I am on the planet where I have never needed money to get chicks. I use money to pay hookers, not women who are not hookers. So for me money is not a factor unless it is a hooker that I am paying. I am not out to impress or save chicks. I get chicks that love me for me, not chicks that are around because I am spending money on them.

LOL. More expensive than my ex-wife? Are you sure you were married? Was it like for a month or something?I feel different on the issue than most guys. I did my own divorce case while my wife paid a lawyer. I ended up with most of the stuff.

Elvis 2008

04-13-22, 06:41

I am not out to impress or save chicks.And you think I am?

I get chicks that love me for meWhat you have is not love.

RamDavidson84

04-13-22, 08:10

You don't understand it? How could you. You're talking to a narcissist. He seriously believes he knows all and needs to teach all.

Perhaps, you've been reading this forum for awhile.

You might remember that said rock star wannabe knew everything about CoVid. This was when it first appeared. He lectured any and all that there would not be more than 80,000 deaths in the US. Of course, we are at 1 million now. He explained that the vaccination doesn't work and that instead the anti-parasite drug Invermectin was the solution. Well, a full on study was conducted and the New England Journal of Medicine published the results about a week ago. Verdict: Non effective against stopping the virus and not effective as a treatment. I guess his favorite podcast was full of it.

Of course, that isn't all, he has taken to lecturing on legal matters (Bogota thread), politics (Opinion thread) and now on relationships and what works best yada yada yada. But let us ponder this point. He said he is divorced and now has the relationship of all relationships with a sugar-baby. Does that sound like someone who should be lecturing on how to conduct your relationships? Does it sound like someone a sane person should listen to?We are at one million deaths because lockdowns and falsely effective vaccines don't work. Virus was spreading no what. We sure did a good job destroying the economy and creating historic levels of inflation too. And I am pretty sure no one got hurt taking ivermectin, god forbid people on their death beds use an experimental drug to try and survive. But let's all follow the narrative because anything which does not result in profits for the media and the big pharma companies is evil, racist, and sexist. It's going to be hysterical now that even minorities see through all the bullshit lies the Dems used to get elected at all costs last election.

I predict there is going to be a paradigm shift and you will see far more blacks vote republican than ever before. The plight of the African American community is our nation's greatest weakness. Republics are going to create ever more ways to increase quality of life for African Americans through more career economic opportunities, home ownership policies, stronger religious cultural community connections, and placing a stronger emphasis on holding traditional nuclear families together.

Its too easy to see how Russia / China / Iran / Afghanistan, "Our nations greatest adversaries / enemies", are loving how busy we are fighting with each other while they take back previously secured lands with stabilized societies and immediately strip the people of their rights and freedoms and run oppressive murderous dictatorial governments. All the while causing more inflation, supply chain disruptions, and shortages on consumer goods.

Republicans need to win the black vote to take the country back and then start bringing order and peace back to the world and most importantly cash back in our fucking pockets.

Give a man 3 things and you will have a citizen who fights for his country for life: pussy, cash, and purpose. In that order too LOL. Take my post with a grain of salt please LOL.

Villainy

04-13-22, 18:28

We are at one million deaths because lockdowns and falsely effective vaccines don't work. Virus was spreading no what. We sure did a good job destroying the economy and creating historic levels of inflation too. And I am pretty sure no one got hurt taking ivermectin, god forbid people on their death beds use an experimental drug to try and survive. But let's all follow the narrative because anything which does not result in profits for the media and the big pharma companies is evil, racist, and sexist. It's going to be hysterical now that even minorities see through all the bullshit lies the Dems used to get elected at all costs last election.I think that is called revisionist history. Ivermectin wasn't offered as a miracle save for someone dying of CoVid it was offered as an effective preventative medicine (it wasn't) or an effective treatment for people who already had CoVid (it wasn't that either). Don't take my word for it. I'm not a immunologist / epidemiologist / virologist. Just read the results of the double blind trial as reported in the New England Journal of Medicine.

I predict there is going to be a paradigm shift and you will see far more blacks vote republican than ever before. The plight of the African American community is our nation's greatest weakness. Republics are going to create ever more ways to increase quality of life for African Americans through more career economic opportunities, home ownership policies, stronger religious cultural community connections, and placing a stronger emphasis on holding traditional nuclear families together.You think?? So, let's see. Just a few days ago the vote was held on Supreme Court nominee Ketanji Brown Jackson. Only 3 Republicans out of 50 voted in favor of her nomination..[/QUOTE]Now that is the one thing you said that I agree with absolutely.

Paulie97

04-13-22, 19:37

We are at one million deaths because lockdowns and falsely effective vaccines don't work.You've been corrected continually on these points but persist in parroting the lies you read in rightwingnut media. Restrictions, masks, etc. Were shown to reduce Covid related hospital admissions in areas where implemented, thus needed relief was realized while lives were saved. Such measures also bought us time to better understand the dynamics of the virus while developing effective vaccines and treatments. Vaccines have been shown as effective against severe disease as the vast majority of hospitalizations have been among the unvaccinated. Also we have repeatedly shown statistics from World o Meter and other like sources that demonstrated that with few exceptions red states, where a lot of dumbfucks like you reside, have higher Covid death rates. Without mitigation measures that Trumptards and the like fought us on every step of the way death numbers would surely be much higher.

That said what America so needs is to encourage more whites to get college degrees, so they can developed greater critical thinking skills and thus become less prone to chasing cyber conspiracy theories, pseudo-science, "Stop the Steal" silliness and all manners of undemocratic, unamerican nonsense. It's true that many would still stick their head on their desk and sleep, but others may decide to learn if given the opportunity.

Paulie97

04-13-22, 22:36

I wasn't thinking so much something as obvious as money. The little things that can be in some ways more maddening, a favorite pen, a pair of tweezers. These chicas will half-way empty out lotion containers into their own and then add water to yours. Food. Coins. Trinkets. Dental floss. Lighters. Medicine. Drugs you can't report. Or the kind of stuff that is easy to ignore and these maids will assume gringos won't make a big fuss over. The types of objects you would have no idea if the "vast majority" of in-call sex workers were or were not pilfering. No one knows whether it is underreported or doesn't happen. I know the culture, which predicts constancy of behavior, not change of behavior. Culture. We will see.This is stereotypical nonsense. You park in El Centro at the mice infested Hotel Nutibara, do multiples with street girls while wasted and doing drugs with them, then paint all maids, or at least all working girls as culturally predisposed to steal tweezers and dental floss. This makes as much sense as your claim that "poverty rules Colombia" when only 37% fit in this category. Stop drawing sweeping conclusions based upon your limited, often irresponsible personal decisions and associated experiences.

Paulie97

04-13-22, 23:57

Prepagos, putas, hookers or whatever you want to call them usually only kiss their boyfriends or someone they have feelings for because to them kissing is an intimate thing expressing those emotions they have for the person they are kissing. That is a very basic and old rule. Never been part of their job description.This is well said and true, while down the drain goes another one of Osteoknot's lectures on Colombian "culture." They kiss, just not their clients. USA and Euro hookers are the same way. An exception would be Medellin Facebook girls who often kiss as they are paid pretty well and are aware of the desires of many gringos and other foreigners. In the casas they usually don't, and may object to kissing anywhere on their body. That's because when they are only getting $8 out of it you can't expect anything other than bare bones service. That's little money even in Colombia.

RamDavidson84

04-14-22, 00:27

You've been corrected continually on these points but persist in parroting the lies you read in rightwingnut media. Restrictions, masks, etc. Were shown to reduce Covid related hospital admissions in areas where implemented, thus needed relief was realized while lives were saved. Such measures also bought us time to better understand the dynamics of the virus while developing effective vaccines and treatments. Vaccines have been shown as effective against severe disease as the vast majority of hospitalizations have been among the unvaccinated. Also we have repeatedly shown statistics from World o Meter and other like sources that demonstrated that with few exceptions red states, where a lot of dumbfucks like you reside, have higher Covid death rates. Without mitigation measures that Trumptards and the like fought us on every step of the way death numbers would surely be much higher.

That said what America so needs is to encourage more whites to get college degrees, so they can developed greater critical thinking skills and thus become less prone to chasing cyber conspiracy theories, pseudo-science, "Stop the Steal" silliness and all manners of undemocratic, unamerican nonsense. It's true that many would still stick their head on their desk and sleep, but others may decide to learn if given the opportunity.Nah, no one is buying that bullshit. More deaths after the release of 95% effective vaccines than before they were made available. Lockdowns just a few months ago in Austria for a much less severe virus as political retribution. Canadian Prime Minister calling protesters racist with no evidence whatsoever of racism, they were just protesting the bogus vaccine restrictions which were keeping them from working and infringing on their rights. The list goes on and on. Biden / Democrats / Liberals have done a horrific job and the world has had enough, and in the next elections coming up, the voters will get to decide what they truly want. As I said, I predict the Republicans take away the ONLY ammunition the Democrats have, which is to call people racist and sexist with have no logical policy what so ever to back up their mantras. I predict the Republicans will organically create ways to reserve new careers and industries for African Americans as well as make it easier for them to obtain homes. Simply put- put cash in their pockets. With that done, Dems will have nothing left to run on and will be forced to actually advocate for policies which will strengthen America and once again America can use its' strength to keep assholes like Putin in check. Its a shame what has happened to the Ukrainians and the women of Afghanistan.

Ketani Brown Jackson was given a hard time because she was a Democrat, not because she was black, and it was political retribution for the disgusting smear campaign the Dems used against Judge Cavanugh. They went back and cooked up some story that he raped a girl in high school. Now that is some sick fucking shit man. Just think about what type of person / monster you have to be to get your dick hard and hold a crying fighting woman down and fuck her against her will and then go on to live the most perfect life possible for 30 years and put your self in a position to be our nation's most respected judge. HMMMMMMM doesn't make too much sense to me.

Ivermectin is a non-issue. It should never have been a story in the first place. It was a harmless experimental drug which was used as a news story to keep you from seeing the truth, that the vaccines didn't work the way they should have. Just because some dude who isn't even a journalist, or even a talkshow host, he is a fucking UFC commentator and Podcaster said he took it, CNN took the chance to cash in and start a fight with him for clicks and views because they can't get people to watch their network any other way.

As far as college goes and more white people needing to go, LOL its the biggest credentialism scam the world has ever seen. This isn't 1860 where you have to travel 12 miles to a library to educate yourself LOL. Instead Colleges want you to pay $50,000 a year for a piece of paper that says you graduated when you can learn the same shit looking stuff up on google and wikipedia in 2 weeks LOL. And I was one of the dumb ones who took the bait and went tot college, on scholarship mostly, but still was a total waste of fuckin time and I did not learn one thing I could not have taught my self. Higher Education system is a joke and desperately needs to be fixed if they are charging $50,000 for a fucking diploma which is useless in the real world because every asshole who can spell his name and fill out a student loan application has one.

And all that being said, you state more "whites" need to go to college, I am pretty sure a much larger percentage of "whites" attend and graduate college versus "blacks". So are you saying people with college degrees are more educated and able to make better decisions regarding those represent them politically within government? Maybe you would advocate for those with college degrees should have a vote that counts for more than those who did not attend college and are less educated? I'll even say you would at least want people to be responsible enough to show I. The. When they show up to vote right? We want responsible voters who can at least identify themselves when they vote correct? Oh wait I forgot, it's racist to ask for I. The. Before you vote according to Democrats. Yeah that policy makes a ton of sense, let's give the dumbest crack head mother fuckers in the country who can't get a fucking drivers license the same weight attributed to their vote as our nation's Doctors, lawyers, educators, and engineers. And then if anyone points that out, let's make sure we point how racist and evil they are. Got to love certain about America LOL. Please take my post with a grain of salt as always.

RamDavidson84

04-14-22, 00:55

This is stereotypical nonsense. You park in El Centro at the mice infested Hotel Nutibara, do multiples with street girls while wasted and doing drugs with them, then paint all maids, or at least all working girls as culturally predisposed to steal tweezers and dental floss. This makes as much sense as your claim that "poverty rules Colombia" when only 37% fit in this category. Stop drawing sweeping conclusions based upon your limited, often irresponsible personal decisions and associated experiences.You are pissing in the wind Paulie, this guy osteo is a drug addict who fucks himself with dildos to get off and then posts about it on the forum. In my eyes he's a disgrace to the game. Some trust-fund kid who never grew up or could score tail. You think he's going to listen to anything you say? I hope all members try to be more discreet in their postings and would advocate for using this platform as a tool for sharing information to make our trips and experiences overseas more enjoyable. Not promote the wreckless deviant behavior which is so often attributed to our hobby, LOL and rightfully so. I am no saint, but I would also advise a level of discretion to what information you openly post. Would suck if one day the forum got shut down. Not likely, but you never know.

Mr Enternational

04-14-22, 01:33

And you think I am?Well your reports said you were out to save chicks, moving them from country to country and city to city and paying for them places to stay. What did you think saving is?

What you have is not love.Okay. I better go to the bank and make a withdrawal so that I can pay somebody's rent for exchange of some much needed love.

Villainy

04-14-22, 02:09

Nah, no one is buying that bullshit. More deaths after the release of 95% effective vaccines than before they were made available. Lockdowns just a few months ago in Austria for a much less severe virus as political retribution. Canadian Prime Minister calling protesters racist with no evidence whatsoever of racism, they were just protesting the bogus vaccine restrictions which were keeping them from working and infringing on their rights. The list goes on and on. Biden / Democrats / Liberals have done a horrific job and the world has had enough, and in the next elections coming up, the voters will get to decide what they truly want. As I said, I predict the Republicans take away the ONLY ammunition the Democrats have, which is to call people racist and sexist with have no logical policy what so ever to back up their mantras. I predict the Republicans will organically create ways to reserve new careers and industries for African Americans as well as make it easier for them to obtain homes. Simply put- put cash in their pockets. With that done, Dems will have nothing left to run on and will be forced to actually advocate for policies which will strengthen America and once again America can use its' strength to keep assholes like Putin in check. Its a shame what has happened to the Ukrainians and the women of Afghanistan.So you think that the day the vaccine was made available the deaths should have immediately stopped? Are you serious? It took months for the vaccinations to reach critical mass. So yes there were deaths after the vaccine was released.

But here is a thought for you to ponder. The virus all but disappeared after the vaccine was widely disseminated. In its place a weaker mutation appeared that is more contagious but far less lethal. The vaccines haven't been equally effective against this weaker but more contagious mutation. Did you really believe that the vaccines would be equally effective against every variant or mutation that might subsequently occur?

As Paulie correctly noted the lockdowns weren't intended to STOP the virus, they were intended to buy time for two important events. 1. Give time for the pharmaceutical reseachers to come up with an effective vaccine and 2. Give time for hospitals around the world to gear up and prepare for the number of ICU beds and ventilators that were going to be needed to give those people infected a chance to survive.

Ketani Brown Jackson was given a hard time because she was a Democrat, not because she was black, and it was political retribution for the disgusting smear campaign the Dems used against Judge Cavanugh. They went back and cooked up some story that he raped a girl in high school. Now that is some sick fucking shit man. Just think about what type of person / monster you have to be to get your dick hard and hold a crying fighting woman down and fuck her against her will and then go on to live the most perfect life possible for 30 years and put your self in a position to be our nation's most respected judge. HMMMMMMM doesn't make too much sense to me.Apparently you didn't read the news. Christine Blasey Ford didn't accuse Kavanaugh of rape, she accused him of sexual assault. (you couldn't even spell his name, no wonder you didn't know the facts). She was 15 and he was drunk and assaulted her. "The story wasn't cooked up". Ford apparently talked about the incident in 2012 with a therapist. (6 years before Kavanaugh was nominated) and later presented the session notes to support her claims. She also took a polygraph which was administered by a former FBI agent who concluded that Ford was being honest when attesting to the accuracy of her allegations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Blasey_Ford#cite_note-WaPo16 Sep2018-7.

Ivermectin is a non-issue. It should never have been a story in the first place. It was a harmless experimental drug which was used as a news story to keep you from seeing the truth, that the vaccines didn't work the way they should have. Just because some dude who isn't even a journalist, or even a talkshow host, he is a fucking UFC commentator and Podcaster said he took it, CNN took the chance to cash in and start a fight with him for clicks and views because they can't get people to watch their network any other way.Yeah, ok. Apparently you agree with me (and Paulie) that Ivermectin was never an effective preventative drug against CoVid and also ineffective in treating patients who already had CoVid. You are right that one of the main proponents was a former UFC commentator and had no research or journalist credentials to speak of. Elvis might want to take note since he seems to believe that that guy is the fount of all knowledge.

As far as college goes and more white people needing to go, LOL its the biggest credentialism scam the world has ever seen. This isn't 1860 where you have to travel 12 miles to a library to educate yourself LOL. Instead Colleges want you to pay $50,000 a year for a piece of paper that says you graduated when you can learn the same shit looking stuff up on google and wikipedia in 2 weeks LOL. And I was one of the dumb ones who took the bait and went tot college, on scholarship mostly, but still was a total waste of fuckin time and I did not learn one thing I could not have taught my self. Higher Education system is a joke and desperately needs to be fixed if they are charging $50,000 for a fucking diploma which is useless in the real world because every asshole who can spell his name and fill out a student loan application has one.Seriously? You think College / University is a waste of time? Try getting a good paying job outside the trades without a degree. But even more importantly, college is a place where people make friends / relationships that follow them throughout their lives and if nothing else some students learn to reason.

Please take my post with a grain of salt as always.Trust me, a lot of us value your posts equally with a grain of salt.

JustTK

04-14-22, 02:12

let's give the dumbest crack head mother fuckers in the country who can't get a fucking drivers license the same weight attributed to their vote as our nation's Doctors, lawyers, educators, and engineers. The issue there is that more educated people tend to have higher incomes and would vote and their own interests and tend to vote for right wing policies, whereas less well off people would want to vote for more social polciies.

RamDavidson84

04-14-22, 05:03

The issue there is that more educated people tend to have higher incomes and would vote and their own interests and tend to vote for right wing policies, whereas less well off people would want to vote for more social polciies.My issue is, you shouldn't be labeled a racist because you want people to show a drivers license when they vote. That's really all I advocate for. The last two elections, both sides have claimed mass fraud, Democrats with Russia / Trump scandal which was absurd and Republicans / Trump dressing up like Vikings and storming the capital LOL, which is is also absurd and kinda funny too. When you allow people to vote without showing a drivers license or some form of identification, you are setting the country up for another fake election scandal. And yes, if some one is not responsible enough to obtain some form of identification, I don't want them voting LOL.

Elvis 2008

04-14-22, 05:32

Nah, no one is buying that bullshit. More deaths after the release of 95% effective vaccines than before they were made available. Lockdowns just a few months ago in Austria for a much less severe virus as political retribution. Canadian Prime Minister calling protesters racist with no evidence whatsoever of racism, they were just protesting the bogus vaccine restrictions which were keeping them from working and infringing on their rights. The list goes on and on. Biden / Democrats / Liberals have done a horrific job and the world has had enough, and in the next elections coming up, the voters will get to decide what they truly want.

We want responsible voters who can at least identify themselves when they vote correct? Oh wait I forgot, it's racist to ask for I. The. Before you vote according to Democrats. Yeah that policy makes a ton of sense, let's give the dumbest crack head mother fuckers in the country who can't get a fucking drivers license the same weight attributed to their vote as our nation's Doctors, lawyers, educators, and engineers. And then if anyone points that out, let's make sure we point how racist and evil they are. Got to love certain about America LOL. Please take my post with a grain of salt as always.Ram, you are totally right but you are wasting your breath. The Democratic douche way is to spout off the narrative and put yourself out as a good citizen such that the government will give you money. That's what the douches do.

As far as Covid goes, look at what the douches did. Huacho locks himself at home and drinks and does so many drugs he nearly dies of depression. Paulie locks himself in his mother's basement for 2 years. V is so stupid he went to lunch with someone infected with Covid and then tried to brag about that guy as that guy spread Covid. After spending years regurgitating Democratic douche talking points, a symptomatic JJBee got a plane and infected God knows how many people on it. And yet despite their personal stupidity and the belief in the bullshit swamp narrative, these douches are still believers. I wonder why. Are they getting paid off to believe the swamp narrative? I hope so. I hope they do not really believe it.

For all their crap, you said that the pandemic was over, and I agreed with you, and here we are. All those countries that were models of Covid management (unlike the one run by Trump) are getting hammered now: Japan, South Korea, New Zealand, Australia. It is there but you have to look for it.

I have to wonder how many people are like me. Before the pandemic, I was the thinnest I had ever been in decades. Now I have never been heavier. The worst nightmare I have of the pandemic was a friend of mine getting the keys to a gym and we were there working out when a police car drove by. Here we are terrified about getting arrested for working out. The swamp closed the gyms for our health. How fucked up is that? I still cannot believe that shit happened.

Then there is the economic. JJBee the douche was saying jobs come back but lives never do, a favorite swamp talking point. What I countered with is that you do not know the measures implemented will work with the virus but you know there will be economic damage. If you are just a guy living on a government pay check, the pandemic was not just a walk in the park. Hell, you benefited from it, the working people not so much.

Like with any crisis, the Fed expanded its balance sheet and printed up money to buy assets. This literally was going to enrich the billionaires like never before, and it did. None complained about it although Elon Musk sold like 10% of his stock and even admitted his company was overvalued, something I have yet to here any other person ever do.

Speaking of Elon Musk, his buying 10% or so of Twitter has set the swamp / Democratic douches into a panic. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/robert-reich-goes-full-orwellian-more-freedom-tyranny.

Reich tells people not to be lured by freedom of speech: "Musk says he wants to 'free' the internet. But what he really aims to do is make it even less accountable than it is now." What Reich refers to as "accountability" is being accountable to those like himself who can filter out views and writings that are deemed harmful for readers.

Reich insists that censorship of views like former President Donald Trump are "necessary to protect American democracy." Get it? Less freedom is more freedom.

This is how you define the Democratic douche. They promote Democracy when in reality they would be happy if the Democratic party ruled the USA like the CCP rules China.

To me, the tell that shined the greatest light on the narrative was Fauci and Collins "take down" on the Great Barrington Declaration. Here we have real scientists advocating a much more common sense approach to Covid and Collins tells Fauci we have to take those guys down. Fauci and Collins wanted to own the narrative and as long as Fauci could appease the billionaires who cashed in on Covid and the military trying to make biological weapons, he was golden. Fauci's skill as a doctor and scientist are God awful but as a power hungry ass kissing bureaucrat who knows where the power lies, few have ever been better.

So you can be right all you want, and you have been, and you can tell it how it is and bring on the facts, but you are not changing the minds of these Democratic douches. There is more to it than you know. Yes, it is the money but it is also purpose, the need to be tribal, and the need to believe (and I still do not get this) you are a good citizen even when the founders encouraged people to dissent much more than to be sheep.

This was one of my favorite scenes from Better Call Saul: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYaXYPi2N4E.

The actor who plays Mike tries to tell the guy he is a criminal, I. E. A bad citizen, and he just does not buy it. You are really a good citizen if you want our country to be as strong as it can be: to get what you pay your taxes for, to be critical when the government is wrong, to challenge the experts. You are not a good citizen if you just do what the government tells you.

RamDavidson84

04-14-22, 05:39

So you think that the day the vaccine was made available the deaths should have immediately stopped? Are you serious? It took months for the vaccinations to reach critical mass. So yes there were deaths after the vaccine was released.

But here is a thought for you to ponder. The virus all but disappeared after the vaccine was widely disseminated. In its place a weaker mutation appeared that is more contagious but far less lethal. The vaccines haven't been equally effective against this weaker but more contagious mutation. Did you really believe that the vaccines would be equally effective against every variant or mutation that might subsequently occur?

As Paulie correctly noted the lockdowns weren't intended to STOP the virus, they were intended to buy time for two important events. 1. Give time for the pharmaceutical reseachers to come up with an effective vaccine and 2. Give time for hospitals around the world to gear up and prepare for the number of ICU beds and ventilators that were going to be needed to give those people infected a chance to survive.

Apparently you didn't read the news. Christine Blasey Ford didn't accuse Kavanaugh of rape, she accused him of sexual assault. (you couldn't even spell his name, no wonder you didn't know the facts). She was 15 and he was drunk and assaulted her. "The story wasn't cooked up". Ford apparently talked about the incident in 2012 with a therapist. (6 years before Kavanaugh was nominated) and later presented the session notes to support her claims. She also took a polygraph which was administered by a former FBI agent who concluded that Ford was being honest when attesting to the accuracy of her allegations..Yes! Deaths should have dropped drastically in the year after the vaccine! Duh! To advocate for mandatory vaccines and lockdowns years into the pandemic after it has been proven that the vaccines do not prevent transmission is the dumbest fucking thing I have ever heard of. It just makes absolutely no fucking sense at all. You can still spread the virus even if your vaccinated, so why lock your country down? Why make people get a vaccine that does not prevent transmission and has not reduced the death rate significantly? Makes no sense man. It just erodes away people's rights regarding their health and freedom of speech. And as I have stated a million times, I am not anti-vaccine, I am just not a sheep and when I look at the numbers, those vaccines were no where close to 95% effective like they were sold to us as. The vaccines are still important and helped and I am glad the vast majority of Americans got vaccinated, but I don't think it was ever necessary to make the vaccines mandatory and years into the Pandemic there should have been no discussion of a lockdown in Europe or North America.

To bring up anything about what someone did before they 18 is just stupid, and I don't think for one second that Kavanaugh did anything to warrant the Democrats bringing that up and painting him like a rapist like they did / or sexual predator / or whatever you want to call it. Its all pretty nasty shit which destroys your character and it was total bullshit and I lost a ton of respect for the Democrats just like I lost a ton of respect for the Republicans with the stupid birther conspiracy shit with Obama, its fucking stupid childish games they play. But you are a sheep and you will not analyze any situation without bias because your a snowflake whose existence is based on the Democrats winning rather than trying to do what is right for your society, country, and the world. Bahhhhhh Bahhhhh BAHHHHHHHHH LOLOLOL.

Look college is not a total waste of time, but it is sooooooooo over priced for degrees you don't need. Doctor, Lawyer, Engineer, Nurse, Educator- yes we need colleges, should they really cost 50 k-60 k a year? Dam, that's an expensive piece of paper. And then if you are just going to school to get some fucking basic liberal arts degree which many students do, they are basically stealing your fucking money. College and education is important, but its way overpriced and there needs to be much more of a guarantee of employment when you graduate if you are paying 200 k for a fucking degree. If you want to pay 50 k a year to make friends LOL, then go ahead buddy, those are some expensive friends though.

The best part of all this though is elections are coming up and the people will you show you they are so over all this bullshit. Biden has been a complete total fucking disaster, a train wreck, a shameless scoundrel of a human being who son is a drug addicted corrupted pile of steaming shit. Does anyone here think Harris is capable of running the nation, her interviews are in my opinion the worst I have ever seen, worse than George W. And that is hard to do. Please change my mind, and some one explain to me one thing Biden has done that we can point to and be proud of as a nation?

Closing construction of pipeline- tens of thousands out of work- nation is dependent on foreign oil, gas prices rise.

Pull out of Iraq quicker than a Priest in a nun- Terrorists take over the country and strip away the rights of the citizens and eliminate the Democracy we invested 20 years in.

Highest Inflation in 40 years- Everyone loves it when the dollar is weaker than the peso.

Supply Chain Chaos- does nothing to fix it.

Russia wages war on Ukraine- Thousands dead- Cold War is back baby! At least we can make cool movies of the KGB again.

China is exterminating a race of people- Wigurs- Genocide is still a thing in 2022.

Biden Jr's laptop has more corrupt data in it than a Russian Intelligence Agency.

Crime is exploding in multiple cities across the country- Biden supports "Defunding the Police"- Hmmm coincidence?

Let's have dudes compete in woman's sports- Biden is all about true equality.

False Claims of Racism from the President himself of a teenage kid- Kyle Rittenhouse found innocent- Duh!

What will Joe do next to help this great country maintain its wonderful image around the world?

BTW, you cut me very deep by telling people don't take me serious, I am so sad you took the time to let me know everyone doesn't respect my posts lololol.

Elvis 2008

04-14-22, 06:10

Well your reports said you were out to save chicks, moving them from country to country and city to city and paying for them places to stay. What did you think saving is?I moved women for my benefit so I could see them more often.

Okay. I better go to the bank and make a withdrawal so that I can pay somebody's rent for exchange of some much needed love.If you are dumb enough to think you can buy love, then you really are not a player at all. You are just adding excitement to the lives of bored average looking women. You are better than a lot of guys here, not afraid to dive into a more real relationship and not living in fear of women, but you are afraid to commit and the reason is your target is average women.

When you are really in love, money does not matter, just making the woman happy does and vice versa. I have had to check myself on that lately and be a little more realistic about money given my past, but a really good woman, one you really love, is priceless. You want to try to one up me? Try one upping that.

Mr. E, I could have your life in a minute. I could get the average looking women from the cupid sites. My ambitions are just higher than that. You are not going to fall in love targeting average women. The woman has to be amazing for you to fall in love. My female friend said of my woman, "She is too good for you". Anybody say that about any woman you have seen?

Fun Luvr

04-14-22, 06:27

Apparently you didn't read the news. Christine Blasey Ford didn't accuse Kavanaugh of rape, she accused him of sexual assault. (you couldn't even spell his name, no wonder you didn't know the facts). She was 15 and he was drunk and assaulted her. "The story wasn't cooked up". Ford apparently talked about the incident in 2012 with a therapist. (6 years before Kavanaugh was nominated) and later presented the session notes to support her claims. She also took a polygraph which was administered by a former FBI agent who concluded that Ford was being honest when attesting to the accuracy of her allegationsAppears you have subscripted to revisionist history or Democrats' talking points. The therapist's notes did not include Kavanaugh's name, only students "from an elitist boys' school". She didn't recall what year it supposingly happened, nor where it happened. The results of the polygraph test concluded that Ford was being truthful when she said a statement summarizing her allegations was accurate, not the actual allegations. The statement used by the former FBI agent hasn't been made public. Were the allegations what she told her therapist in 2012 or what she told her attorney in 2018?

Villainy

04-14-22, 16:08

Appears you have subscripted to revisionist history or Democrats' talking points. The therapist's notes did not include Kavanaugh's name, only students "from an elitist boys' school". She didn't recall what year it supposingly happened, nor where it happened. The results of the polygraph test concluded that Ford was being truthful when she said a statement summarizing her allegations was accurate, not the actual allegations. The statement used by the former FBI agent hasn't been made public. Were the allegations what she told her therapist in 2012 or what she told her attorney in 2018?Well thanks for your version of reality. BTW what is subscripted? So she disclosed the assault to a therapist in 2012, more than 30 years after it happened. You say that she didn't disclose the name of the boy who assaulted her in their therapy session? She was very clear on what year it happened it was the date she was unclear about. If you read the totality of the Wikipedia article you see that she did disclose the polygraph results and the former FBI agent's evaluation.

So let's see if we can summarize what really happened:

Dr. Christine Blasey Ford grew up on the East coast and her parents were registered Republicans. She claims that she was sexually assaulted at a party she attended when she was 15 years old.

She claims Brett Kavanaugh was the boy who assaulted her. She later went on to earn Bachelor's, Master's and a PhD degrees. Since 1998 she worked as a research psychologist and biostatistician at the Stanford School of Medicine. Since 2011 she has taught Psychology at a collaborative program between Palo Alto University and Stanford. In 2012 Dr. Ford attended couples therapy with her husband and during these sessions disclosed the sexual assault. The therapist didn't include the boys name but Dr. Ford's husband recalls that his name was disclosed in the sessions.

Dr. Ford disclosed the incident to Senator Diane Feinstein after Kavanaugh was nominated to become an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court. She stated in the letter that she expected her story to be kept confidential. She took a polygraph test that was administered by a former FBI agent, who concluded Ford was being truthful.

Here is where the story gets really seedy (in my opinion). A little later a periodical reported (without using Ford's name) that Feinstein was withholding a document from Judiciary Committee members. Obviously the only person who knew other than Dr. Ford and her husband and the former FBI agent was Senator Feinstein. I wonder who leaked the story?

Feinstein referred Dr. Ford's letter to the FBI. Who in turn sent the letter to the White House who in turn sent the letter to the full Judiciary Committee. The FBI was asked to further investigate but did not conduct another polygraph test. They could have but chose not to. I wonder if they really wanted to uncover the truth? In all fairness, it might not have been possible to positively prove what happened one night 35 years ago.

So, now a woman who was married with two children with a very successful career was pressured into testifying when she never wanted to endure that process. During that time she was threatened, verbally attacked and forced to hire security to protect herself and her family. Oh yeah, it's 4 years later and she hasn't written a book.

So I guess if you are a partisan Republican this all seems made up. But what was her motive?

Mr Enternational

04-14-22, 17:35

When you are really in love, money does not matter, just making the woman happy does and vice versa.Meanwhile you are using your money to make that woman happy. Don't pay that rent in Cartagena and see how in love you guys really are.

DramaFree11

04-14-22, 17:47

Meanwhile you are using your money to make that woman happy. Don't pay that rent in Cartagena and see how in love you guys really are.We all pay, even my buddy Elvis. Some pay more sone pay less. The key, to find an arrangement that all parties are happy.

I have sone super rich clients that are married. Trust me they pay and probably a hell lot more then me.

MarquisdeSade1

04-14-22, 18:17

We all pay, even my buddy Elvis. Some pay more sone pay less. The key, to find an arrangement that all parties are happy.

I have sone super rich clients that are married. Trust me they pay and probably a hell lot more then me.All these posts about "falling" deeply in love with 3rd world putas via total commitment on a mongering site (no less) not a shrinks couch is deeply disturbing.

I will even say creepy!

Even worse than JKs.

"I don't seek them out. But if a girl is sexy, why exclude her? Why be prejudiced against someone based on what some doctor said 20 years ago?

So what if the doctor says she is dead? Not really dead? Just dead for a couple days, dead? Or what if he says "she" is actually a puppy? Or cat? Donkey? Take you pick.

As some like to say around here, its your dick and your money!

RamDavidson84

04-14-22, 18:40

Well thanks for your version of reality. BTW what is subscripted? So she disclosed the assault to a therapist in 2012, more than 30 years after it happened. You say that she didn't disclose the name of the boy who assaulted her in their therapy session? She was very clear on what year it happened it was the date she was unclear about. If you read the totality of the Wikipedia article you see that she did disclose the polygraph results and the former FBI agent's evaluation.

So let's see if we can summarize what really happened:

Dr. Christine Blasey Ford grew up on the East coast and her parents were registered Republicans. She claims that she was sexually assaulted at a party she attended when she was 15 years old.

She claims Brett Kavanaugh was the boy who assaulted her. She later went on to earn Bachelor's, Master's and a PhD degrees. Since 1998 she worked as a research psychologist and biostatistician at the Stanford School of Medicine. Since 2011 she has taught Psychology at a collaborative program between Palo Alto University and Stanford. In 2012 Dr. Ford attended couples therapy with her husband and during these sessions disclosed the sexual assault. The therapist didn't include the boys name but Dr. Ford's husband recalls that his name was disclosed in the sessions.

Dr. Ford disclosed the incident to Senator Diane Feinstein after Kavanaugh was nominated to become an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court. She stated in the letter that she expected her story to be kept confidential. She took a polygraph test that was administered by a former FBI agent, who concluded Ford was being truthful.

Here is where the story gets really seedy (in my opinion). A little later a periodical reported (without using Ford's name) that Feinstein was withholding a document from Judiciary Committee members. Obviously the only person who knew other than Dr. Ford and her husband and the former FBI agent was Senator Feinstein. I wonder who leaked the story?You really think 36 years later, 36 fucking years later! That Kavanaugh as a 17 year old kid! Should be held accountable because he tried to take this girls clothes off? Even if you could prove he did it, which you can't, or anyone can, and the law has stated there is no sufficient evidence to ever bring charges against him. You really still think this guy should not be a Supreme Court Justice? You not even for a second don't think this is just a Democratic led smear campaign? You spend your life paying for sex which is illegal in the USA, yet because a 17 year old kid tried to take a 15 year old girls clothes off, 36 years later you want charges brought against him? Dude, no and I mean no one with half a brain can even come close to taking that serious. There are many Democrats who have twisted hearts because they cannot cope with their own transgressions from their own personal societal failures which they have no one to blame but themselves and are thus incapable of trying to assess situations like these without extreme bias, those Democrats who advocate for smear campaigns like these are destroying the country. The extremists on both sides, "much more so in my opinion on the Democratic side" have split the country in two and weakened it significantly and until people learn to eliminate their bias and start trying to advocate for policies which are productive and useful, then the country will continue to weaken and fail. As we have seen since Biden has been in office, when the USA weakens and fails, Evil around the world begins to thrive again. Look at how crime has risen across America. That NYC subway shooter had been arrested 12 times and yet he was free to walk the streets due to policies advocated for by Democrats who only want to win votes rather than focus on what is healthy for their communities.

DramaFree11

04-14-22, 18:52

All these posts about "falling" deeply in love with 3rd world putas via total commitment on a mongering site (no less) not a shrinks couch is deeply disturbing.

I will even say creepy!

Even worse than JKs.

"I don't seek them out. But if a girl is sexy, why exclude her? Why be prejudiced against someone based on what some doctor said 20 years ago?

So what if the doctor says she is dead? Not really dead? Just dead for a couple days, dead? Or what if he says "she" is actually a puppy? Or cat? Donkey? Take you pick.

As some like to say around here, its your dick and your money!Yes, but I think what Elvis is saying is being love is not a bad thing.

Elvis 2008

04-14-22, 18:58

Meanwhile you are using your money to make that woman happy. Don't pay that rent in Cartagena and see how in love you guys really are.Mr. E, I did not pay her rent the first 6 months when she lived in Bogota. She was living on Covid pay. She had the chance at a new job in a city where I would see her much less. Was this a tact to get money out of me and pay her rent? Maybe, but if it was, the offer was a bargain, a whopping $500 a month. Anything above that $500 was my choice. If my gal was in NYC and selling herself, she would get that in half an hour.

That said, her brother passed us by in a nice car. We went to a nice sushi place and split the bill. My part was like $30. He told us about his upcoming trips to Orlando and Spain. Her mother lives in an apartment a few blocks from us in the same nice neighborhood, and you are implying a gal like this can be bought for $500 a month? LOL. You are nuts.

Yeah, you are right. If I cut her off, she would leave, but it would be because the action is cruel. You could say the same about her and sex though right? And your point is what? What is the point of cutting off someone I care about or who she cares about? To prove to people like you that what we have is real? No thanks. You can see that in a second.

If you are making a lot more than your partner, DF is right, you will be paying for it. Why would you not want your partner to live in more comfort? Still, you are looking at from a man's perspective. It is scary to be dependent on one other person and it is an honor for her to trust me to care for her. Even now, there are no asks for money, no pushing for marriage, no demands. She is preparing to be independent, and I support her doing so. She should have the skills to get a great job if something were to happen to me.

And supporting her was not easy for me. I talked to my friends about it, and they were unanimous in telling me to support a good woman. They were all like, "You would never get that quality here. She is worth it. " Like I said, they have seen me speak with her via video chat, seen the video of her bringing me cake and balloons at the airport for my birthday. They see what we have is real.

So let me turn that around. You have not found a woman you are willing to spend $500 a month to support? What does that say about you? And what does that say about the women you meet?

Mr Enternational

04-14-22, 19:06

We all pay, even my buddy Elvis. Some pay more sone pay less. The key, to find an arrangement that all parties are happy.

I have sone super rich clients that are married. Trust me they pay and probably a hell lot more then me.No we do not all pay. That is a cliche. If you are paying then it is because you are choosing to pay, not because you have to pay. Nothing wrong with a paid arrangement, but some people mistake their paid arrangement for love.

Funny that a topic today in a facebook group that I am in is:
Ladies: Why is it that most women feel theyre giving the gift of sex when its a mutual act, and in a lot of cases women want it just as much as we do(men)?

One woman answered: Because men look at pussy as a prize and women took that and ran with it.

That is absolutely what I see in the ISG threads. For some reason guys look at pussy as a prize greater than themselves that they must win or pay for in some kind of way. In other words they put pussy on a pedestal and deem themselves only worthy of it if they use money.

Fun Luvr

04-14-22, 20:12

She was very clear on what year it happened it was the date she was unclear about.The Washington Post reported "She said she believes it occurred in the summer of 1982, when she was 15, around the end of her sophomore year at the all-girls Holton-Arms School in Bethesda. ".

If you read the totality of the Wikipedia article you see that she did disclose the polygraph results and the former FBI agent's evaluation.Do you know the source of what is on Wikipedia? It is users' reports. One of the original founders of Wikipedia recently said it has become a liberal-biased site. It most likely was her attorney, who told her to take the polygraph, who disclosed the results.

Dr. Christine Blasey Ford grew up on the East coast and her parents were registered Republicans.She is and has been a life-long registered Democrat.

She claims Brett Kavanaugh was the boy who assaulted her. She later went on to earn Bachelor's, Master's and a PhD degrees.That is not true. Her first claim that it was Kavanaugh, if you want to believe her husband, was in 2012. That was after she earned those degrees.

Here is where the story gets really seedy (in my opinion). A little later a periodical reported (without using Ford's name) that Feinstein was withholding a document from Judiciary Committee members. Obviously the only person who knew other than Dr. Ford and her husband and the former FBI agent was Senator Feinstein. I wonder who leaked the story?I don't have to wonder. It was obviously Sen. Feinstein. And she did it just before the confirmation hearing was scheduled to close, after all committee investigations were completed.

So I guess if you are a partisan Republican this all seems made up. But what was her motive?Her motive was to prevent Kavanaugh from being on the Supreme Court.

The Cane

04-14-22, 20:14

MarquisdeSade1

04-14-22, 20:38

Yes, but I think what Elvis is saying is being love is not a bad thing."Yes, but I think what Elvis is saying is being love is not a bad thing".

With whom? 3rd world putas met online?

And look at the divorce rate, and I believe 80% of them are filed by the females ROTFLMMFAO.

Being in "romantic love" for females is usually a pretty "good deal".

For modern men its an archaic con game, that only the lamest betas still engage.

DramaFree11

04-14-22, 20:41

Mr Enternational

04-14-22, 21:45

So let me turn that around. You have not found a woman you are willing to spend $500 a month to support? What does that say about you? And what does that say about the women you meet?That says I am no dummy and that the women I meet are adults that are miraculously able to support themselves. My own daughter is 25 and asks me for nothing. You think I am fool enough to monetarily support some other grown woman? Hell no. Not my style. But more power to whoever sees fit to do it.

I have always said you guys do it to yourselves. You volunteer to support these women, then when she or you want to call it quits you find yourself in court with her saying well he always paid for everything and the judge decides well he needs to keep paying for everything in that case. Then you want to talk bad about the woman and the system when it was you that dug your own grave by playing Cake Daddy in the first place.

Mr Enternational

04-14-22, 21:58

We all pay, in on form or another. Some are in denial.There are costs but that is not the same as paying. I had to buy a car, gas, insurance, tag all to have a way to get to work. So why am I going to work since evidently to you that means I had to pay to have a job. I am not giving my job money the same as I am not giving a woman who is not a hooker money. So yes there are costs to everything, but that does not mean one is paying for that which they are partaking.

Mr Enternational

04-14-22, 22:05

Well, you're well-entrenched on this site, and you pay for it. Right? So, why are you here (with your thousands of posts), and why do you pay for it too then? Not that I believe you put pussy on a pedestal. You don't. But you do pay for it too, and yet you seem to be critical of those who use the site when you yourself are one of the most prolific posters of all time here. You know what they say. We are the company we keep.I pay hookers because that is their job. I do not pay normal chicks that are not hookers. I have always said that.

I am not critical of someone paying for pussy, but I am skeptical when someone claims that another person is in love with them when they are the one footing the bill and that person declares that in order to have someone love you in a real relationship it is going to require your money.

Mr Enternational

04-14-22, 23:04

Being in "romantic love" for females is usually a pretty "good deal".

For modern men its an archaic con game, that only the lamest betas still engage.There you go. You frequently find this with chicks in Latin America. They see themselves as the prize and say you need to win me over (conquistarme). I say bich you are grown and this is real life, not a fantasy or a movie. If we like each other then we like each other. No need for the childish conquistarme games. And while I am winning you over what are you doing besides soaking it all up? I have more money than you and anybody you know. If anything you are the one who needs to be trying to win somebody over. They have some fucking nerve.

Just like in Thailand they are able to trick some foreigners into giving the woman's family a dowry. If anything they need to be giving you the dowry because you are taking on an extra mouth to feed and freeing them of the burden.

I do not know why the shit seems so clear to me, but others seem to be led around by the heart and wallet. Next thing he knows is the shirt on his back is all he has left to his name. If your bich has really turned out to be a bill then you need to re-evaluate. A fool in love and his money as they say.

Elvis 2008

04-14-22, 23:47

That says I am no dummy and that the women I meet are adults that are miraculously able to support themselves. My own daughter is 25 and asks me for nothing. You think I am fool enough to monetarily support some other grown woman? Hell no. Not my style. But more power to whoever sees fit to do it.You have talked yourself into a corner:

My seeing my woman in Bogota at $100 a night hotel costs for seven nights in a month: $100 a day or $700 per month for hotels. None for her. This is your definition of a stud.

Seeing her now for 7 days in Cartagena: $700 apartment, $500 living expenses. $1200 total. Now this is your definition of a john.

But what if you go to 14 days?

Seeing her for 14 days in Bogota: $1400, but I am a stud.

Seeing her now for 14 days in Cartagena: $1200 but I am a John.

So how can it be that I am a john when I am actually paying less?

Now what if I give up my place and stay more in Cartagena and switch from a house and go to a hotel / living with friends model in the USA. That would be +$1500 for 2 weeks.

Cartagena cost now for 2 weeks: I am actually ahead $100, and she would love it if I stayed 14 days a month.

Furthermore, you are so obsessed with not paying you are not seeing the bigger picture. What are the costs of a no-show for me? The Plane ticket, hotel expense, time off work are in the thousands for dollars.

So $500 a month is peanuts for me in the grand scheme of things. Your notion of "not paying for a grown ass woman" is holding you back, and this is the problem with most ISGers. If you pay $10 more for a woman, guys freak out. Pay $200 more a night for a hotel room and everyone yawns. That is a dumb ass mentality here I have never understood.

And you are paying in ways I am not: no shows, asking for marriage, scrolling through your phone. That is a waste of time, and time is money, and the emotional turmoil costs you as well. You are just so enamored with "not paying for it" you discount those costs.

And you are still seeing hos and I am not? Why? I am not seeing hos because sex with any of them would be a disappointment. How much are you paying per month for that?

Your take on that is you are ahead of me because you are not paying for it, and I am? LOL. Okay, keep telling yourself that.

Elvis 2008

04-14-22, 23:53

I am skeptical when someone claims that another person is in love with them when they are the one footing the bill and that person declares that in order to have someone love you in a real relationship it is going to require your money.You are skeptical of a guy paying $500 a month so he can see the woman he loves more often? WTF is wrong with you? You keep insisting this money is for pussy, and it is not. You keep painting yourself in a corner. No woman is worth $500 a month so you can spend more time with them? If you cannot do that, I question the quality of the women you are seeing and your feelings with them.

You got all this money for hos but not for the women who supposedly love you?

JjBee62

04-15-22, 02:26

No we do not all pay. That is a cliche. If you are paying then it is because you are choosing to pay, not because you have to pay. Nothing wrong with a paid arrangement, but some people mistake their paid arrangement for love.

Funny that a topic today in a facebook group that I am in is:
Ladies: Why is it that most women feel theyre giving the gift of sex when its a mutual act, and in a lot of cases women want it just as much as we do(men)?

One woman answered: Because men look at pussy as a prize and women took that and ran with it.

That is absolutely what I see in the ISG threads. For some reason guys look at pussy as a prize greater than themselves that they must win or pay for in some kind of way. In other words they put pussy on a pedestal and deem themselves only worthy of it if they use money.Funny thing about cliches. When an obvious truth gets repeated year after year, it becomes a cliche. There are no cliches which aren't true.

Every thing you've done, since the doctor cut the cord, you've paid for and it will continue until the day you die. When you were bawling your head off to get mommy to give you the tit, you were paying for it. You paid with your breath, energy and tears, and the reason you paid was because taking care of your hunger was worth pitching a fit.

Everything is a trade. You pay your boss with time and effort, he pays you with money. To use your own line, stop showing up, stop doing your job and see how long the paychecks keep coming.

When you fuck a regular chick for free, you pay her. You're paying time and energy, not to mention the time and energy spent finding her and convincing her that fucking you was worth her time and energy. When you pay a hooker, you save some of the bullshit by throwing a bit of cash.

There's not a gnat's ass worth of difference between how you pay for sex and how Elvis pays for sex. You each just pay from different accounts. He uses cash instead of time and promises of a ring a and green card. He feels like he's getting a good return on his investment. You use time and whatever you tell the women to convince them that fucking you whenever you're in town is better than settling down with someone else, and you feel like you're getting a good return on your investment.

The only difference is that he thinks you would be happier doing it his way.

That in itself is silly. Why give a shit whether you're happy? If you're not happy, that's your problem. How does anyone know what makes a complete stranger happy?

The only thing any of us have which is worth a damn is time. You only get so much. If whatever you're doing with your time keeps a smile on your face, then keep doing it. If not, go pay some woman to put a smile on your face.

JustTK

04-15-22, 02:49

So what if the doctor says she is dead? Not really dead? Just dead for a couple days, dead? Or what if he says "she" is actually a puppy? Or cat? Donkey? Take you pick.
!As far as I know, having sex with a consenting woman is legal and in the interests of both parties, whereas bestiality is illegal and animal exploitation. Although you folks all condone it by eating meat, eggs and dairy. So don't criticise me for having fucked up morals, hehe.

Dead. Now that is a more interesting subject. I thiink that so long as the relatives don't know, its not immoral! I mean, who would be suffering, who would know?

A dreaded sunny day, so let's go where we're happy and I'll meet you at the cemetery gates.
Keats and Yeats are on your side while Wilde is on mine.

PS: I am not JK, I am TK ... Just TK.

MarquisdeSade1

04-15-22, 04:47

There you go. You frequently find this with chicks in Latin America. They see themselves as the prize and say you need to win me over (conquistarme). I say bich you are grown and this is real life, not a fantasy or a movie. If we like each other then we like each other. No need for the childish conquistarme games. And while I am winning you over what are you doing besides soaking it all up? I have more money than you and anybody you know. If anything you are the one who needs to be trying to win somebody over. They have some fucking nerve.

Just like in Thailand they are able to trick some foreigners into giving the woman's family a dowry. If anything they need to be giving you the dowry because you are taking on an extra mouth to feed and freeing them of the burden.

I do not know why the shit seems so clear to me, but others seem to be led around by the heart and wallet. Next thing he knows is the shirt on his back is all he has left to his name. If your bich has really turned out to be a bill then you need to re-evaluate. A fool in love and his money as they say.Lets see.

When a female tells me she loves me, do you know what changes in my mind or in my life? Nada, nothing, not a damn thing.

What happens when some foolish beta monger tells a 3rd world puta he loves her.

Now she knows she owns that *****, next comes the ring then the wedding, and then the sweet ass "she won the lottery divorce".

Ever been in a divorce court courtroom whilst they are going over settlements of assets (his never hers).

Go to a major city find the county courthouse and watch a few hours of any courtroom any day of the week (cook county has a few dozen), it will blow your fucking mind.

BTW most of the judges in these courtrooms are "females" spoiler alert its all rigged.

Funny how they have cameras everywhere, but I'm never allowed to record shit.

They will tackle and taze your ass if you even think about it.

Mr Enternational

04-15-22, 05:26

Cartagena cost now for 2 weeks: I am actually ahead $100, and she would love it if I stayed 14 days a month.

Furthermore, you are so obsessed with not paying you are not seeing the bigger picture. What are the costs of a no-show for me? The Plane ticket, hotel expense, time off work are in the thousands for dollars.I get it now. You are not doing it for her, you are doing it for you. No more hotels to worry about and you do not have to track her down when you are ready for her. This is more about convenience for you than it is about love for her.

Sure if I had only 1 woman then that model would make a lot of sense. But I am a philanderer and choose not to go the one woman route. As a matter of fact there are several chicks that I deal with whose houses I stay in and do not have to worry about a hotel anyway. And the places that I do pay for a place to stay it is nowhere near the price that you do. I am a modest guy.

And you are paying in ways I am not: scrolling through your phone. That is a waste of time, and time is money, and the emotional turmoil costs you as well.Good. So you do not have to hide being on this website from your girl as most guys in a relationship probably would have to.

And you are still seeing hos and I am not? Why? I am not seeing hos because sex with any of them would be a disappointment.That begs the question: why are you wasting your time still being on ISG when you are not trying to see hos and you said that time is money?

Mr Enternational

04-15-22, 05:32

The only thing any of us have which is worth a damn is time. You only get so much. If whatever you're doing with your time keeps a smile on your face, then keep doing it.You are definitely right about that.

MarquisdeSade1

04-15-22, 06:10

As far as I know, having sex with a consenting woman is legal and in the interests of both parties, whereas bestiality is illegal and animal exploitation. Although you folks all condone it by eating meat, eggs and dairy. So don't criticise me for having fucked up morals, hehe.

Dead. Now that is a more interesting subject. I thiink that so long as the relatives don't know, its not immoral! I mean, who would be suffering, who would know?

A dreaded sunny day, so let's go where we're happy and I'll meet you at the cemetery gates.
Keats and Yeats are on your side while Wilde is on mine.

PS: I am not JK, I am TK ... Just TK.Morals? We don't need no stinking morals?

I didn't judge your morality or lack thereof.

I'm not into moral judgments I may judge your sanity and / or intelligence or lack thereof.

But prob never your morals, I believe they are way too subjective (other than homicide / abortion), and this is a monger forum afterall.

Could you imagine if we judged morality here LMAO.

I'm a Buddhist at heart so take that for what its worth.

I love most men, just not sexually, I really like the line from "As good as it gets", Jack Nicholson is asked if he's gay.

He answers, no but if I was ID be the luckiest guy in the world.

I hate most women except for their bodies, espec those 3 holes that I love so much.

Paulie97

04-15-22, 07:42

Everything is a trade. You pay your boss with time and effort, he pays you with money. To use your own line, stop showing up, stop doing your job and see how long the paychecks keep coming.

When you fuck a regular chick for free, you pay her. You're paying time and energy, not to mention the time and energy spent finding her and convincing her that fucking you was worth her time and energy. When you pay a hooker, you save some of the bullshit by throwing a bit of cash.Has been a while but here's another heaping helping of BS reasoning from JJBee62. Everything isn't a "trade." The effort you put into chatting up and scoring with a regular girl isn't a "payment" to her. Such has nothing to do with payment to an employer who profits from your efforts. The analogy of a baby "paying with screams" to it's mother for breastfeeding is equally ridiculous. This is a mere signal to the mother that a need exists so she can provide the attention she desires to give. Congratulations, your fallacy is "fake analogy."

https://fallacyinlogic.com/false-analogy-definition-and-examples/

If anything would show us that everything isn't a trade it would be the outpouring of support for Ukrainians at this time. Many are following the dictates of their conscience by responding with compassion, and with no expectation of anything in return. To accuse them of any selfish motives would not only be presumptuous, but would betray a lack of familiarity with conscience or compassion. Many people do operate only with selfishness, but not everyone.

But maybe this goes full circle back to the "you pay one way or another" nonsense, what is just that, nonsense. There's plenty of women in developed countries that marry men equal to or even lower than their economic status. Many women just have their own money. These are facts and crying about "feminism" while growing a belly and letting one's looks go (Elvis) doesn't change the facts. It only complains about them. It's also true that horny women sometimes go with a guy that turns them on, and for no reason other than attraction and sexual pleasure. No, you don't pay one way or another. That concept is a monger forum salve for guys to make themselves feel better about being a client for hookers, IE. "everybody else does it anyway" which is nonsense. Most American men don't go near hookers. A high percentage of men in Asia do however.

Villainy

04-15-22, 15:50

The Washington Post reported "She said she believes it occurred in the summer of 1982, when she was 15, around the end of her sophomore year at the all-girls Holton-Arms School in Bethesda. ".And that proved to be accurate.

Do you know the source of what is on Wikipedia? It is users' reports. One of the original founders of Wikipedia recently said it has become a liberal-biased site. It most likely was her attorney, who told her to take the polygraph, who disclosed the results.It certainly was not her attorneys who told her to take the polygraph. She took the polygraph in August of 2018 and she wasn't outed in the press until September of 2018. The attorneys volunteered to assist her once she agreed to testify in the Judicial Committee hearings which occurred after she was outed in the press.

She is and has been a life-long registered Democrat.So? Are you trying to claim that she was a partisan? If so, you should note that Federal Election Commission records show that she made contributions to Democratic causes from 2013-2017 in the grand sum of $100. That isn't each year, that is in all 5 years combined. This from a woman that has a net worth estimated at $5 million. That doesn't seem too partisan to me.

That is not true. Her first claim that it was Kavanaugh, if you want to believe her husband, was in 2012. That was after she earned those degrees.Your making your own self-serving assumptions again. Her therapy acknowledgement of the assualt was in 2012. Her husband said she had told him about the assualt earlier. Of course, they were married in 2002 and the majority of her degrees were earned prior to the marriage. You're quibbling about the sequencing of events not about their factual basis.

Her motive was to prevent Kavanaugh from being on the Supreme Court.SO, Fun Luvr did she know him or not? Are you trying to say she read about his nomination and then made up the whole incident and it never really occurred? If that is your claim? (which is laughable) How lucky that she went to an all girls prep school in the same area when and where Kavanaugh grew up.

When people come forward in this type of situation there is usually a motive. Afterall, she was pretty successful in her life, teaching at Stanford Medical School and estimates of her net worth come in around $5 million dollars. So what are the typical motivations??

Justice / Revenge: The problem with these motivations are that she would have been telling the truth about the incident.

Money: Pretty clearly not in this case. She has a substantial net worth and she didn't write a book or go on the lecture circuit to rake in the bucks.

Fame: Again not so much in this case. She didn't hit the talk-show circuit or take pundit gigs. She just went back to her quiet little life.

Partisan Hatred: I guess this is what you must think. But she didn't seem to be a very active partisan before 2018. She made what could be described as miserly contributions to the Dems and when she came forward about the incident she insisted on confidentiality. Not exactly something you would expect from a partisan true believer.

Osteoknot

04-15-22, 16:45

Funny thing about cliches. When an obvious truth gets repeated year after year, it becomes a cliche. There are no cliches which aren't true.Materially or intangibly.

Cliches are like generalizations, they are grounded in truth.

We all pay with some combination of the following: time, money, emotion, karma, self-worth, loss of self-respect, sleep, food, loss of emotion, STD's, physical health, sanity, compromise, etc. My list must be incomplete because it's off the top of my head. Those guys who don't see it are delusional because they have their ego invested into their sexuality. Keeping score, a need to compare to others, wanting others to monger the same way they do or implying their way is better.

There can be a mind-set of guys who invest their ego into thinking that the more freebies they get, the bigger studs they are. That's delusional. I've had it both ways. Projecting out to my expected lifespan, I will die having had way more "girlfriends" or novias than Pay for Play chicas.

Between the time I was in my mid teens until my first and only marriage in my mid-forties, 98% of what I did was girlfriends, a lot of girlfriends. If I was traveling and in a country where P4 P was legal, then I would partake. I was monogamous for 16 years in a marriage (she wasn't) and now I am predominantly into P4 P although I still have a few "serious" girlfriends. I have the money to pay when I want and I enjoy enhancing certain chicas' lives that way. If I really care for them, why wouldn't I pay them? They need the money way more than I do. Not paying them in my situation would be an insult, and sending the wrong message.

If I guy can't pay because he doesn't have the money and still get's laid, then more power to him. Just like my choice to pay, that by itself proves nothing or makes one mongerer "better" than the other. If there is a line that gets crossed, it's when the sexual behavior gets compulsive (guilty as charged) with numbers that are 2 or 3 standard deviations away from the mean, or the mongerer starts projecting the way he does things as better or the preferred way compared to other mongers (not guilty).

Some guys don't have any game or the money to get the sex they want and that can lead to frustration and resentment of other mongers. They basically have to learn how to ration or "budget" their sexuality in the P4 P world which is better than not having sex at all.

Some guys have the game but don't have the money and they are often compensating, again because of ego, to prove to themselves and others that they don't need the money to get laid. I happen to believe there are very, very few situations in life that are not improved with money. At the highest level, money in our world equals freedom.

Some guys have no game but have the money and they are generally the obnoxious ones who even fellow mongers will call out for their vulgar behaviors.

Some guys have the game and the money, and that is not a bad place to be if that person is well grounded without a lot of ego issues, but they can be just as obnoxious if not more than than the guys with no game and money.

And if you think what we do isn't a game, well, you are stepping up to bat with no balls (pun intended) and two strikes against you, jeje. The Bard may have said it best, "All the world's a stage, and all the men and women merely players".

Fun Luvr

04-15-22, 16:46

Nounce

04-15-22, 18:08

...Dead. Now that is a more interesting subject. I thiink that so long as the relatives don't know, ...I think the question is when you do it, do you know she is dead? LOL.

DramaFree11

04-15-22, 18:35

RamDavidson84

04-15-22, 19:16

Huacho

04-15-22, 19:20

Elvis 2008

04-15-22, 20:37

That begs the question: why are you wasting your time still being on ISG when you are not trying to see hos and you said that time is money?Part of the reason was that you helped me and I was trying to help you, but I am beginning to see you want to win an argument, so let us go with that.

When you said that your wife was a good woman, maybe she is. Maybe she was right to dump you and maybe you were threatened with my gal's daughter calling me dad because of what happened to you. Why were you so upset about that? Guilt? It is funny how my kid does not think of anyone else as his father, and I would not call my ex a good woman. She was a nice appearing woman who fooled everyone. I told my divorce lawyer to hit her with the faintest of blows and I watched her come completely unglued. I would still be married if I just accepted everything wrong with it was my fault.

Yeah, I was wrong about you. You enjoy being an asshole stringing women along that are below you intellectually with the promise of a ring and green card and then you can brag about how little you are paying.

JJBee said I was telling you to be happy, but you are happy being the philandering asshole you are right? Truth be told, I really was not telling you about happiness, but I was telling you about the best sex. I don't know if a year from now I will be as happy as I am now. That is the scary part, but I can tell you that if a woman has affection for you, the sex is better. And if a woman gives all of her to you, the sex is incredible.

But you should stay with where you are comfortable, stay with the average, stay with the women not smart enough to see through your bullshit, and keep your aim low. Why should anyone expect more from you? You are not happy with where you are, but you sure as hell are comfortable there.

But I have a better woman than you ever will have and I am having better sex than you ever will. You can cry you want to that it is not true, but I know it is, and you know the reason. I aim high, and you aim low.

Elvis 2008

04-15-22, 20:52

The reason most American men don't go near hookers is because of America's economic strength, especially for women. Women don't have to sell themselves for cash in the USA because there is ample opportunities to earn wages which satisfy their needs.I agree with you Ram, but that is true for IMO a minority of women. How many of the richest women made it on their own? The reason most American women do not have to be hos is they get together with the government and / or lawyers (same thing really) and beat up men.

Mr Enternational

04-15-22, 21:55

Joe Biden blames the record high gas prices in the US on Putin. If Putin is to blame, why haven't gas prices risen in Colombia? In Medellin, the current price for regular gas is from $2.25 to $2.45 a gallon. It has been around that price for at least the past two years.Maybe the Colombian government is subsidizing it. Gas has gone up in many other countries. Friend in Brazil just messaged me 2 days ago about the rising gas prices and inflation there. When I was in Peru last week the truck drivers had a 24 hour strike because of the rising gas prices, so the president shut Lima down for a day. During this day there were protests and riots downtown. Only places open to eat were Chinese restaurants.

Mr Enternational

04-15-22, 22:04

Spidy

04-15-22, 22:26

I pay hookers because that is their job. I do not pay normal chicks that are not hookers. I have always said that.

Fair enough! Yes you've been consistent with this.

I am not critical of someone paying for pussy, but I am skeptical when someone claims that another person is in love with them when they are the one footing the bill and that person declares that in order to have someone love you in a real relationship it is going to require your money.

Apologies, if you've stipulated this before, but isn't it more how ONE chooses to seek-out "love" in a relationship.

To me anyway, the bottom line is, it all comes down to how you choose to define "love" and what you (or her) bring to the "table", w/r to a meaningful relationship, that is beneficial to the both you.

For example, some guys are more dispassionate and emotionally deficit and bring more money to the relationship "table". Whereas some women are more financially deficit and bring more passion and emotion to the "table".

Whatever the mix, find the appropriate "balance" that defines you being "in-love". No wrong or right here. One size does not fit all.

MarquisdeSade1

04-15-22, 22:41

Fair enough! Yes you've been consistent with this..Well I couldn't disagree more, I'm guessing some of her "clients" might be on this thread.

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/fart-jar-tiktok-stephanie-matto-interview-1280395/

Mr Enternational

04-15-22, 22:52

Part of the reason was that you helped me and I was trying to help you, but I am beginning to see you want to win an argument, so let us go with that.

When you said that your wife was a good woman, maybe she is. Maybe she was right to dump you and maybe you were threatened with my gal's daughter calling me dad because of what happened to you. Why were you so upset about that? Guilt? LOL. Dude you keep going off the rails. What argument? My wife did not dump me. I was the plaintiff in the case. I asked her how she wanted to divide everything up. We had an agreement on that so that is what I put in the paperwork. When I gave it to her she did not want to sign it. So I had to get it served by the sheriff's office. She eventually said she didn't know I was serious about wanting a divorce and thought I just wanted to be apart for a little while. When we went to court the judge saw that she was just trying to be vindictive and gave me most of the stuff. Later on she asked me when I would take her to do all the stuff that she refused to do before like riding my bike with me and going to the shooting range. I said what the fuck. Why would you want to do it now that we have broken up, but not when we were married and I was begging you to do it?

Yeah, I was wrong about you. You enjoy being an asshole stringing women along that are below you intellectually with the promise of a ring and green card and then you can brag about how little you are paying.And how is that? I have not made any commitments or promises to anyone. Ring or green card? Where are you getting this stuff from? I let chicks come visit me in the States. They have to get their own visas and own tickets. I have not told any of them they could live with me or I would marry them. You have me fucked up. As a matter of fact, one chick that I fuck with in Bogota told me yesterday that she knows I only want her for my sexual desires. I said okay we will not fuck anymore then. Then she says but she wants to have a kid by me. I don't have to promise anyone shit. No need for me to hold carrots on sticks in front of chicks like you do. They love me for me, not because I am footing the bill.

I was telling you about the best sex. I don't know if a year from now I will be as happy as I am now. That is the scary part, but I can tell you that if a woman has affection for you, the sex is better. And if a woman gives all of her to you, the sex is incredible.I must be doing something right. Women are inundating me with unsolicited nekkit pics and videos everyday. Whenever I tell them to chill the fuck out with it it hurts their feelings. So I have just learned to say bla, bla, bla, nice pics baby. They make me want to fuck you right now.

You really are obsessed with this best sex thing. You think after over 2000 women I am searching for the best sex? At this point, to me sex is just like breathing. Second nature. I am not trying to make up for all the great sex I missed when I was younger as it seems you are, because I have never had that problem.

But I have a better woman than you ever will have and I am having better sex than you ever will. I aim high, and you aim low.You have a jobless chick that has to depend on you for everything. Since when is getting a chick that can not pay her own bills an achievement? If that is aiming high then I would hate to know your definition of aiming low, a chick from skid row? Remember the lesson you got last time: you can use money to get a chick, but money won't help you keep her.

Mr Enternational

04-15-22, 23:02

To me anyway, the bottom line is, it all comes down to how you choose to define "love" and what you (or her) bring to the "table", w/r to a meaningful relationship, that is beneficial to the both you.Hell, I do not know how to define it. All I know is that you can not buy it. Elvis has learned that before, but it seems he was keen to sign up for a refresher course. You do not think all the money he was pouring into the last chick (and her family) would have continued to be beneficial to her for the rest of her life? Whatever she ended up choosing, it must have been better to her than him and his money.

RamDavidson84

04-15-22, 23:39

You are joking right? You should take a look at only fans, instagram, seeking arrangement, the old backpage, the old craigslist. The majority of hookers in the USA do not fit your description of being drug addicts or unattractive. American hoes are selling pussy like it is going out of style.Only fans? Dudes bang smoking hot chicks off only fans for Latin America prices? Seeking arrangement? Smoking hot chicks in their 20's fucking middle age men off there for how much- prolly 500 $ a pop? You must be joking if your trying to argue you can fuck chicks as hot as the girls in Mexico or Colombia for less than a few hundred bucks and that's if you get lucky! I live in the USA bro, there is no city where your fucking hot college girls for 100 $. Now if a dude is a stud and he's playing his cards right, yea maybe he can get some talent on the cheap from SA, but the USA is not in the same Universe as Colombia or Mexico for paying for sex.

JjBee62

04-16-22, 02:22

Huacho

04-16-22, 02:46

I'm heading out now to pile a bunch more rocks in front of the cave if anybody wants to join in.

MarquisdeSade1

04-16-22, 02:48

The reason most American men don't go near hookers is because of America's economic strength, especially for women. Women don't have to sell themselves for cash in the USA because there is ample opportunities to earn wages which satisfy their needs. Most hookers in the USA are drug addicts or mentally unstable or are unable to attract a man to support them. They are mostly undesirables and forced into prostitution out of necessity rather than choice. AKA their fucking gross.

Now if USA had hookers like Mexico or Colombia- you better bet you last dogecoin / dollar that far more American men would be shelling out cash for pussy like they do in other nations versus putting up with therapy sessions with the wife or Sunday dinners with the in-laws when they would rather be watching football or their favorite tv show.LMAO ever hear of affirmative action LOL.

They nag their way into the job market then they cry for equal pay with men.

To pay for their bullshit stoodent loans they must pay back for their worthless degrees in gender studies from shitholes like Oberlin et al.

They want to get equal pay for just showing up, usually late because the Starbucks dum dum that took their old job fucked up their black cafe LOL.

They don't sell pussy on street corners like their mother did, they prefer to get their Mrs degree and eventually find some simp to pay their loans so they don't even have to pretend at the office anymore.

They still sell pussy in the USA a plenty, the price is just exponentially higher than the good ole days.

DramaFree11

04-16-22, 03:46

LOL. Dude you keep going off the rails. What argument? My wife did not dump me. I was the plaintiff in the case. I asked her how she wanted to divide everything up. We had an agreement on that so that is what I put in the paperwork. When I gave it to her she did not want to sign it. So I had to get it served by the sheriff's office. She eventually said she didn't know I was serious about wanting a divorce and thought I just wanted to be apart for a little while. When we went to court the judge saw that she was just trying to be vindictive and gave me most of the stuff. Later on she asked me when I would take her to do all the stuff that she refused to do before like riding my bike with me and going to the shooting range. I said what the fuck. Why would you want to do it now that we have broken up, but not when we were married and I was begging you to do it?

And how is that? I have not made any commitments or promises to anyone. Ring or green card? Where are you getting this stuff from? I let chicks come visit me in the States. They have to get their own visas and own tickets. I have not told any of them they could live with me or I would marry them. You have me fucked up. As a matter of fact, one chick that I fuck with in Bogota told me yesterday that she knows I only want her for my sexual desires. I said okay we will not fuck anymore then. Then she says but she wants to have a kid by me. I don't have to promise anyone shit. No need for me to hold carrots on sticks in front of chicks like you do. They love me for me, not because I am footing the bill..OK, first, I would not be bragging about banging girls for free in Colombia. Colombia is low end at best, so I can only imagine what these girls look like. All girls send nude photos now, especially Colombian girls.

Time is money and if you do not understand this concept, then you probably need a part tine job.

If you have truly banged over 2000 girls for free, this takes a tremendous amount of time and effort, so you are probably paying way more than myself or Elvis. The difference between me and you, is I admit I am paying. My time is far more valuable then money. This was not always the case.

Also, I feel guilty, some of these girls are flat broke and are struggling. Many of them give money to there parents even though they are broke. I feel guilty how little money I give the model.

That I have been with almost 2 years. All she does is make my life better.

So many of the things you are excusing Elvis of you are doing the exact same thing.

JjBee62

04-16-22, 04:00

Has been a while but here's another heaping helping of BS reasoning from JJBee62. Everything isn't a "trade." The effort you put into chatting up and scoring with a regular girl isn't a "payment" to her. Such has nothing to do with payment to an employer who profits from your efforts. The analogy of a baby "paying with screams" to it's mother for breastfeeding is equally ridiculous. This is a mere signal to the mother that a need exists so she can provide the attention she desires to give. Congratulations, your fallacy is "fake analogy."

https://fallacyinlogic.com/false-analogy-definition-and-examples/

If anything would show us that everything isn't a trade it would be the outpouring of support for Ukrainians at this time. Many are following the dictates of their conscience by responding with compassion, and with no expectation of anything in return. To accuse them of any selfish motives would not only be presumptuous, but would betray a lack of familiarity with conscience or compassion. Many people do operate only with selfishness, but not everyone.Thank you. When I read that I finally realized who you remind me of, and I almost wish I could introduce you.

Like you, she yearns to be the center of attention, but she lacks any qualities to earn the focus of others. Her conversational range is limited and she's neither witty or charming. She even has the same nervous twitch, when she's about to unleash a non-sequitur in order to get back in the conversation.

This limits her to inappropriate behavior whenever she feels neglected. At times it's annoying, but mostly it's just pathetic.

I'm going to state a few facts. Whether or not you agree with them does not change them.

1. Each person has a finite lifespan.

2. Engaging in any activity precludes other activities.

3. Every activity, because it occupies some portion of a finite lifespan has value.

Any interaction with another is a trade. You are exchanging something they value for something you value. Whether this is conscious or instinctive is irrelevant. A baby crying because it's hungry, or you throwing a fit because you feel ignored is a trade. If mommy wants to have some peace, she needs to find and fix the problem. Fortunately, since your dependence on me isn't legally binding, I can ignore, abuse or placate you depending on my mood. Sorry. It's not my day to change your diaper.

If you want to have sex with someone, you have to offer something they value to get something you value. If nothing else, you're trading time for pussy Unfortunately, some people have a limited inventory of qualities valued by women. However, cash is often an acceptable substitute. Even better, the economic disparity between Colombia and the US makes the P4 P route cheaper than any traditional exchange.

Let's move from the wading pool of your understanding into the deep end. Just like any conversation which is not about Jim Morrison, this is going to be over your head.

Every human action is inherently selfish, whether it's showing support for Ukraine, or running into a burning building to rescue a cat, everything is done for a perceived personal profit. Calling it conscience illustrates my point perfectly. It makes you feel better to do certain things. You profit. How much of that support is coming from people who feel badly about giving the support?

Unfortunately, that's all the time I have for your attention seeking tirade. You'll just have to squall and wallow in your shit all by yourself.

JjBee62

04-16-22, 06:52

Only fans? Dudes bang smoking hot chicks off only fans for Latin America prices? Seeking arrangement? Smoking hot chicks in their 20's fucking middle age men off there for how much- prolly 500 $ a pop? You must be joking if your trying to argue you can fuck chicks as hot as the girls in Mexico or Colombia for less than a few hundred bucks and that's if you get lucky! I live in the USA bro, there is no city where your fucking hot college girls for 100 $. Now if a dude is a stud and he's playing his cards right, yea maybe he can get some talent on the cheap from SA, but the USA is not in the same Universe as Colombia or Mexico for paying for sex.I hate to intrude, but until now nobody mentioned a price range. And the price difference isn't as much as you think. However, you can quickly make up the difference in volume.

Here's the math:

If the stars align, I can fly to Medellin for $600, round trip. I could get that down under $500 by flying Spirit, but my legs exceed the available legroom. However, I now fly first class, which is about $1100. Locally I can get close to MDE quality for $200, compared to $50 in MDE. Ignoring food, lodging, taxi, airport parking etc. My first fuck in Medellin costs me $650. It costs me the same (flying coach) to fuck 4 girls locally or in Medellin.

Granted, the Colombian girls are a bit younger and prettier, and give more time and better service, but it's not a huge difference. However, after #4 the price per girl quickly drops in Medellin.

JjBee62

04-16-22, 08:26

To help you understand why you always pay, one way or another, here's an example.

Let's say you're hanging out in a bar in Laureles, when you're not hitting the El Centro casas. Imagine there's an attractive Venezuelan girl who also frequents the area. In this purely hypothetical situation, you really want to get her between the sheets and you try to find a way in for days. Not only are you putting time and effort into the attempt, you're spending money towards achieving your goal, all to no avail. That little Vennie remains unattainable.

One evening, when she's hanging around with her street rat buddies, you decide to treat them all to pizza. You trade something of value, money, for something of value, pizza. You then offer the pizza, something with value, to everyone. What value do you expect to receive in return? There are 2 things you hope to receive in return. First, you hope your act of generosity will finally get you the pussy you've been working so hard for.

The other thing is gratitude. You want all those street rats to say "thank you mister gringo. " If nobody, except the bartender thanks you, you feel slighted.

Just imagine yourself in that situation. If what you say is true, that the attempt to convince someone to have sex with you isn't an expense, you won't be upset, because the pizza offering waa an altruistic act, with no expectation of compensation. No thanks would be necessary. The simple knowledge that the pizza was enjoyed is all that's needed.

How do you think you would react? Would you shrug it off, because expecting gratitude for acts done without motive is irrational? Or would you lash our in anger because you didn't receive the compensation you wanted?

Clearly, yelling at a bunch of ungrateful street rats is a bad idea. But what if there is someone else? Someone far enough away and nice enough nor to slap some sense into you? If, hypothetically, that person pointed out gratitude from a bunch of punks was unlikely, would you take out your anger on him?

It's my belief, if such an unlikely scenario occurred, you would react with anger, taking out your frustration on anyone who crossed you. What's your opinion?

JustTK

04-16-22, 14:26

I'm not into moral judgments I may judge your sanity and / or intelligence or lack thereof.
But prob never your morals, I believe they are way too subjective (other than homicide / abortion), and this is a monger forum afterall.
Could you imagine if we judged morality here LMAO.
Come now, we do it all the time! Even if it may not be directlly, our actons are mainly guided by morality, so when we judge actions, we are hudging morality. It makes me laugh when people say, for example "I don't judge you, how dare you judge me? Whenever people say this, its clear that they have done very little self-examination bcos we judge others almost every single second of every day.

One question I want to ask you. I have noted you denegrate "third world putas" several times here. You say stuff like it would be crazy to marry or have a serious relationship with a third world puta. I want to ask why you think a third world puta woukd make a worse partner than a first world puta, or than any woman that is not a puta?

RamDavidson84

04-16-22, 15:36

LMAO ever hear of affirmative action LOL.

They nag their way into the job market then they cry for equal pay with men.

To pay for their bullshit stoodent loans they must pay back for their worthless degrees in gender studies from shitholes like Oberlin et al.

They want to get equal pay for just showing up, usually late because the Starbucks dum dum that took their old job fucked up their black cafe LOL.

They don't sell pussy on street corners like their mother did, they prefer to get their Mrs degree and eventually find some simp to pay their loans so they don't even have to pretend at the office anymore.

They still sell pussy in the USA a plenty, the price is just exponentially higher than the good ole days.Exactly my point, to most women in USA, its not sell their pussy or miss rent / car payment / food. Now of course there are the ghetto hood rats who sell their pussy, but do I really want to pay my money to fuck those nasty skanks with their ghetto attitudes? Hell no! Have I done it drunk once in awhile and regretted it the second I came, guilty as charged sir LOL. Fact of the matter is, more women graduate college than men today and the labor market is no longer based on agriculture, construction, or manufacturing like it was until the 1970's, today the market is based on the service sector, healthcare, education, federal employment, retail, and the tech industry. These are all industries where a women can perform her job just as well as a man and are just as easily hired. This isn't 1960 where there is a need for "Affirmative action." Whether you want to admit it or not, women can all perform these jobs just as good or mostly as good as men and thus are deserving of wages which keep them from selling their pussy.

Yes, I suppose you can find hot girls to fuck in the USA, but you are going to pay out the ass for it and you are better off just fuckin girls for free. I am no longer banging hot college chicks for free out of the bars, those days are gone for me. But I can pull chicks in their 30's and fuck them for free, so why would I pay stupid prices for bad sex with a college hooker who is going to charge me if I am lucky 500 a pop and I have to hunt her down on seeking arrangements a week in advance and reveal my identity. Nah its was easier to just fuck divorcees in their 30's or 40's who are still half decent look looking.

I spoke to a friend of a friend who uses SA, he pays 1000 $ a month allowance for his girl, says he sees her for 2 or 3 dates a month. I saw the girl and she is not bad lookin, but he also said it takes him weeks to find set ups like that and its a ton of work and there is also 2 or 3 dates you got to go on to set that up. There is no street action at all with decent looking girls, only crack heads you would pay not to fuck, unless you are a dirty mother.

Fucker. Now I have done the online thing with the old back page and other similar sites, and they are all crack heads and anyone who says different is a liar. Yes there are diamonds in the rough, but most of the time your getting a nasty ***** you got to have a real load on to stick you dick in and they are charging you 2-3 hundred bucks. In Medellin, I am getting all night GFE for 200-300 k, that's less than 100 bucks American with a soldi 7 or 8 clean young chick. Like I said pay for play in the USA and Mexico / Colombia is a different universe. Fly out to Vegas and ask a decent chick how much she is charging and then think of RamD84 when she tells you 1100 a go round LOL.

Mr Enternational

04-16-22, 17:21

Mr Enternational

04-16-22, 17:57

OK, first, I would not be bragging about banging girls for free in Colombia. Colombia is low end at best, so I can only imagine what these girls look like. All girls send nude photos now, especially Colombian girls. To me women are women, people are people. I do not give a fuck where somebody is from. We are all probably just one boat ride from not being from the places we are from anyway. So whether you are classifying people as high end or low end based on their nationality, hey I guess you are above those low end humans in that country.

I did not say every woman I am fucking is Colombian. You are saying Colombian women are some of the ugliest on the planet and guys should be ashamed to be fucking them?

Time is money and if you do not understand this concept, then you probably need a part tine job.I never said anything about time not being money. Elvis said time is money and he intends to only fuck his one girlfriend. I asked why is he wasting his time which means money on this website which has the purpose of finding chicks to fuck if he is not planning to fuck other chicks. He is wasting and/or losing out on money by being here if his time is truly money.

If you have truly banged over 2000 girls for free, this takes a tremendous amount of time and effort, so you are probably paying way more than myself or Elvis.I did not specify free or paid. But it is both together; way more free than paid though. Maybe I am spending more, but that does not mean I am paying more. What does me spending on myself have to do with me paying chicks? So for you it is better to pay a chick $300 than to spend $400 on yourself? Different strokes for different folks I guess.

RamDavidson84

04-16-22, 18:12

You are adding to your argument. You simply said the majority of hookers in the USA are horrible looking and strung out on drugs. I said that is not true. Now you are saying there are attractive ones but they are expensive? You did not bring up price before, so likewise I said nothing about price. But now you are saying that I am arguing that chicks can be fucked at a specific price range. Nope. I never said that.The majority of the hookers in the USA are skanks who I would not shell out my cash to fuck. They are gross. Majority= 51%, I will say more like 80-90% based off what I have seen. I don't fuck USA hookers much because they are either skanks or way over priced and out of my budget and its easier to just fuck normal chicks for free around my age, and they are half decent. I am a northeast guy, so I am basing this off Philly and NYC. I have heard from other guys you can get decent girls off SA, but you are going to pay out the ass for it. Like in the thousand dollar range for a night of GFE. I won't consider that for even a second.

Look, if I am wrong and there is a place where you can get GFE with hot clean girls for around 200 $, please let me know, dm me. It will me save me having to travel in other countries to get that high end GFE for decent prices like I love.

So tell me, where are you getting hot clean girls for 200 $? Not 90 lb Asians in the massage parlors, not ghetto hood rats, not mentally unstable hippy weirdos. Clean decent disease and drug free chicks in their 20's for 200 $. Where do I find them on an easy and consistent basis? In Colombia, its shooting fish in a barrel to find that, Mexico is almost as easy. If there is a city like that in USA, please share the knowledge kind sir?

Elvis 2008

04-16-22, 18:27

Only fans? Dudes bang smoking hot chicks off only fans for Latin America prices? Seeking arrangement? Smoking hot chicks in their 20's fucking middle age men off there for how much- prolly 500 $ a pop? You must be joking if your trying to argue you can fuck chicks as hot as the girls in Mexico or Colombia for less than a few hundred bucks and that's if you get lucky! I live in the USA bro, there is no city where your fucking hot college girls for 100 $. Now if a dude is a stud and he's playing his cards right, yea maybe he can get some talent on the cheap from SA, but the USA is not in the same Universe as Colombia or Mexico for paying for sex.I agree 1000%. There is nothing like that in the USA that is not butt ugly.

Mr. E fucks ugly women while other guys go for high end. I am not going to brag on my woman but for him to call her "a woman without a job" and his women with jobs better is hilarious.

The problem with the USA is not just the high end escort services. The gal who fucked Kobe Bryant and then said he raped her got $500,000+, the porn star ho who fucked Trump got $140,000, and now you have the Deshaun Watson's hos asking for millions. So the price of pussy with lawsuits and FOSTA and SESTA has gone through the roof as has the legal risk.

I think Mr. E's ego act and how he is getting so much pussy for nothing is coming apart at the seams.

RamDavidson84

04-16-22, 18:28

You are adding to your argument. You simply said the majority of hookers in the USA are horrible looking and strung out on drugs. I said that is not true. Now you are saying there are attractive ones but they are expensive? You did not bring up price before, so likewise I said nothing about price. But now you are saying that I am arguing that chicks can be fucked at a specific price range. Nope. I never said that.I said due to America's economic strength, women are not financially forced into prostitution which leads most prostitutes, "not all prostitutes", but most to be forced into prostitution because they do not have the required skills to maintain a job due to a drug addiction, mental health problem, or are extremely unattractive and unable to find a man to support them, or a combination of the three. Now, there are diamonds in the rough, but they are going to cost a substantial amount of money due to the strength of America's economy and a country which has very high wages. Why would a chick sell her pussy to a fat bald middle age man for a days wage? She wouldn't, she would just get a boyfriend and work. Now if you are paying her a weeks worth of salary, 1000 $, you're going to get some fucking in with some decent talent. How many dudes out there are going to consistently pay 1 k to get a fuck in, not many. This all goes back to my initial statement which is the level of talent a man can buy in the USA is no where near or easy to find as Mexico or Colombia and that is truth, there is no argument here.

If you want to nit pick and be one of those dudes who is going to try to find the most insignificant little flaws in my argument like your a big time attorney trying to argue a court case, then go ahead bro, have at it. Personally, I like to spit the truth and keep it simple for people to read and learn from and help other mongers.

LOL, to anyone thinking of mongering in the USA, you better be loaded, have a ton of time on your hands, and be patient. Or enjoy some nasty hoes. For everyone else, book a flight to Medellin LOL.

MarquisdeSade1

04-16-22, 18:37

Come now, we do it all the time! Even if it may not be directlly, our actons are mainly guided by morality, so when we judge actions, we are hudging morality. It makes me laugh when people say, for example "I don't judge you, how dare you judge me? Whenever people say this, its clear that they have done very little self-examination bcos we judge others almost every single second of every day.

One question I want to ask you. I have noted you denegrate "third world putas" several times here. You say stuff like it would be crazy to marry or have a serious relationship with a third world puta. I want to ask why you think a third world puta woukd make a worse partner than a first world puta, or than any woman that is not a puta?Do you know there are different types of judgments?

Moral judgments, value judgments et al.

Ie, I don't think putas are immoral, I just think they lack value as homo sapiens (imagine if you will having a daughter with a Tijuana or MDE puta).

To paraphrase the TM the only honest female is a puta.

I am single and have zero interest in a romantic relationship with any female, so you're asking the wrong monger LOL (if I won 500 million usd today I wouldn't want Miss America next week).

But in conclusion 99.99999% of all females are putas, its just a matter of degree.

Some stand on the corner, some on FB, some work at my office etc etc etc.

Elvis 2008

04-16-22, 18:40

Also, I feel guilty, some of these girls are flat broke and are struggling. Many of them give money to there parents even though they are broke. I feel guilty how little money I give the model.

That I have been with almost 2 years. All she does is make my life better.Good point DF. That is something Mr. E does not get. All he does is talk about women with regards to cost. He does not understand the concept that a good woman can bring a man value.

Elvis 2008

04-16-22, 18:44

Elvis said time is money.Oh only I said that? Why do you keep saying time is money only applies to me? I guess time not being money means nothing to you because you do not have a job.

When you attribute the phrase time=money to only me, you look like a complete bullshit artist Mr. E. Your ability to keep score makes you a candidate to be a Russian judge.

DramaFree11

04-16-22, 18:55

To me women are women, people are people. I do not give a fuck where somebody is from. We are all probably just one boat ride from not being from the places we are from anyway. So whether you are classifying people as high end or low end based on their nationality, hey I guess you are above those low end humans in that country.

I did not say every woman I am fucking is Colombian. You are saying Colombian women are some of the ugliest on the planet and guys should be ashamed to be fucking them?

I never said anything about time not being money. Elvis said time is money and he intends to only fuck his one girlfriend. I asked why is he wasting his time which means money on this website which has the purpose of finding chicks to fuck if he is not planning to fuck other chicks. He is wasting and/or losing out on money by being here if his time is truly money.

I did not specify free or paid. But it is both together; way more free than paid though. Maybe I am spending more, but that does not mean I am paying more. What does me spending on myself have to do with me paying chicks? So for you it is better to pay a chick $300 than to spend $400 on yourself? Different strokes for different folks I guess.I do not pay between $300-400 in Mexico. I pay between $150-250. Yes, I do question why anyone would hang out in Colombia.

RamDavidson84

04-16-22, 19:05

I hate to intrude, but until now nobody mentioned a price range. And the price difference isn't as much as you think. However, you can quickly make up the difference in volume.

Here's the math:

If the stars align, I can fly to Medellin for $600, round trip. I could get that down under $500 by flying Spirit, but my legs exceed the available legroom. However, I now fly first class, which is about $1100. Locally I can get close to MDE quality for $200, compared to $50 in MDE. Ignoring food, lodging, taxi, airport parking etc. My first fuck in Medellin costs me $650. It costs me the same (flying coach) to fuck 4 girls locally or in Medellin.

Granted, the Colombian girls are a bit younger and prettier, and give more time and better service, but it's not a huge difference. However, after #4 the price per girl quickly drops in Medellin.You need to read my post again. The entire post was tied to the strength of the American economy driving up the price of sex in the USA. It was the entire point of the post. And I said majority of the girls are skanks, the vast majority, and they are. Again, there are some smoke shows you can fuck in the USA, but it will cost you in time and money. There are no bars you are going to waltz into and fuck a 23 year Latina who could be an instagram model like you can in Medellin for 200 $ or less. That is not happening.

Your a 100% correct on the travel costs to Medellin should be factored in to the total cost to fuck. LOL That's why when I do fly to Medellin I am at least fucking 3 a day LOL, or until my dick goes soft. Getting the most bang for my buck.

However, my statement was that if girls of the USA were as hot and the same price and gave the same service as the girls of Medellin and Mexico here in the USA, then many more men would be buying sex as compared to the current number of men purchasing sex in the USA. I should have been more direct in stating about the prices. I figured when I stated the economic strength of the USA is why more girls don't sell themselves is basically stating that and forum readers would have been able to figure that out. I will have to be much explicit in my posts going forward. Anyway travel costs are not a factor in the statement I was making because the girls would already be here in the USA,. Duh. Bro. I expect more out of the great JJB. LOL I feel let down after some of the epic arguments you have mustered on this forum LOL.

Mr Enternational

04-16-22, 19:43

Oh only I said that? Why do you keep saying time is money only applies to me? I guess time not being money means nothing to you because you do not have a job.

When you attribute the phrase time=money to only me, you look like a complete bullshit artist Mr. E. Your ability to keep score makes you a candidate to be a Russian judge.Man that chick is doing something to your mind. Saying Elvis said something is not saying ONLY Elvis has said that in the history of mankind. But in this instance Elvis said something and I am referring to his post and him in which he said that something.

He said time is money, yet he continues wasting his time on this website with no intention to use it for its intended purpose which is finding women for sex. Therefore he must not value his time nor money. So why does he preach to others that time is money?

JustTK

04-16-22, 19:56

Do you know there are different types of judgments?
Ie, I don't think putas are immoral, I just think they lack value as homo sapiens (imagine if you will having a daughter with a Tijuana or MDE puta).
To paraphrase the TM the only honest female is a puta.
But in conclusion 99.99999% of all females are putas, its just a matter of degree.
Some stand on the corner, some on FB, some work at my office etc etc etc.I could be wrong, but I think you need to go see a psychologist.

Osteoknot

04-16-22, 20:02

I could be wrong, but I think you need to go see a psychologist.When a person needs psych meds, he needs a psychiatrist.

Jajjajajajjajajaaa.

MarquisdeSade1

04-16-22, 20:14

Man that chick is doing something to your mind. Saying Elvis said something is not saying ONLY Elvis has said that in the history of mankind. But in this instance Elvis said something and I am referring to his post and him in which he said that something.

He said time is money, yet he continues wasting his time on this website with no intention to use it for its intended purpose which is finding women for sex. Therefore he must not value his time nor money. So why does he preach to others that time is money?Time is money LOL.

Then you quote him and he gets defensive, LMAO "I'm not the only one that says that?" LMAO.

Doesn't it also take time to make money?

Sure some make more than others.

But it even takes Elon and Bozo time to make money.

Add up how many hours a day he writes on ISG.

But time is money (he must have lots of free time),and I guess his time isn't very valuable as an MD LMAO.

I read Elon doesn't have a house and sleeps in his office in Austin.

But I doubt he's writing on here 20 hrs a day.

JjBee62

04-16-22, 20:15

The majority of the hookers in the USA are skanks who I would not shell out my cash to fuck. They are gross. Majority= 51%, I will say more like 80-90% based off what I have seen. I don't fuck USA hookers much because they are either skanks or way over priced and out of my budget and its easier to just fuck normal chicks for free around my age, and they are half decent. I am a northeast guy, so I am basing this off Philly and NYC. I have heard from other guys you can get decent girls off SA, but you are going to pay out the ass for it. Like in the thousand dollar range for a night of GFE. I won't consider that for even a second.

Look, if I am wrong and there is a place where you can get GFE with hot clean girls for around 200 $, please let me know, dm me. It will me save me having to travel in other countries to get that high end GFE for decent prices like I love.

So tell me, where are you getting hot clean girls for 200 $? Not 90 lb Asians in the massage parlors, not ghetto hood rats, not mentally unstable hippy weirdos. Clean decent disease and drug free chicks in their 20's for 200 $. Where do I find them on an easy and consistent basis? In Colombia, its shooting fish in a barrel to find that, Mexico is almost as easy. If there is a city like that in USA, please share the knowledge kind sir?Have you ever seen someone butcher a chicken? They grab it by the head, sling it across the chopping block and cut off its head. Then they let it go and the headless chicken runs around erratically until it dies. That's the visual I get whenever you post. You run without direction and change direction without reason, flapping your wings in a futile attempt to get off the ground.

You start off claiming all US hookers are nasty, dirty drug addicts that nobody goes to, then you start talking about $500-$1000 hookers that you can't afford. From there you wander down the road of 30 year old regular girls, who quickly change to girls in their 30's and 40's. Finally, with your final breaths, you ask MrE to answer questions about something I posted. It's like going to the circus on acid.

There are women selling pussy right under your nose. Regular women, living regular lives, in regular neighborhoods, selling sex, often in a normal middle class neighborhood, from their home. Some are barely out of high-school, some are drawing Social Security. They come in all shapes and sizes.

It's been several years ago, when I went to a monger-hooker meet and greet party here in the US. About 10 mongers were there along with 7 or 8 hookers. It took place at home of a woman, who is probably 60 now, a grandmother, who had retired from a government job. She had started selling sex to supplement her retirement. Nice woman, although I had no interest in paying for her services. The rest of the girls were in their 20's, all very attractive. There were a few college students. We drank and ate, played some fun games and all got to know each other. As a special deal, all the girls had agreed to on-site services for $100, a $50 discount from their normal rates.

The other mongers, all just regular guys, with regular jobs. We all made friends that day.

You want to know what city? Almost any city. If you ever bothered to put in the effort to learn things, instead of just vomiting out your prejudices, you would already know where to find them. Among others, I've got contacts who sell for $200 or less in Chicago, Atlanta, Pittsburgh, Boston, Indianapolis, Louisville, Orlando and Nashville. And the crazy thing is, I don't spend any time looking for hookers in the US. I just stumbled on most of them.

Personally, I prefer Medellin. I find the girls to be a bit sweeter and less business like. Not only is everything cheaper, I enjoy the pace of life there. I can also knock 20 years off of the age of the regular girls who are available to me. Why spend 3 weeks flirting with a 40 year old, to get her in bed, when I can spend 30 minutes flirting with a 20 year old and get the same results?

I also no longer date regular women in the US. Most of them have an expectation that some sort of relationship will eventually develop and I have no interest in that.

MarquisdeSade1

04-16-22, 20:30

I could be wrong, but I think you need to go see a psychologist."I don't seek them out. But if a girl (boy) is sexy, why exclude her (him)? Why be prejudiced against someone based on what some doctor said 20 years ago?

Anyone that write this belongs in a rubber room LMAO.

MarquisdeSade1

04-16-22, 20:55

When a person needs psych meds, he needs a psychiatrist.

Jajjajajajjajajaaa.Coming from the most psychotic monger this site has ever seen!! (and no that's not a compliment).

Best regards LOL.

JustTK

04-16-22, 21:22

"I don't seek them out. But if a girl (boy) is sexy, why exclude her (him)? Why be prejudiced against someone based on what some doctor said 20 years ago?
Anyone that write this belongs in a rubber room LMAO.I can tell your from the USA. You just make shlt up to suit urself. Never said boy or girl. I said young woman.

MarquisdeSade1

04-16-22, 21:27

I can tell your from the USA. You just make shlt up to suit urself. Never said boy or girl. I said young woman.The convo was about chix with dix.

The record is clear! LMAO.

JjBee62

04-16-22, 21:45

You need to read my post again. The entire post was tied to the strength of the American economy driving up the price of sex in the USA. It was the entire point of the post. And I said majority of the girls are skanks, the vast majority, and they are. Again, there are some smoke shows you can fuck in the USA, but it will cost you in time and money. There are no bars you are going to waltz into and fuck a 23 year Latina who could be an instagram model like you can in Medellin for 200 $ or less. That is not happening.

Your a 100% correct on the travel costs to Medellin should be factored in to the total cost to fuck. LOL That's why when I do fly to Medellin I am at least fucking 3 a day LOL, or until my dick goes soft. Getting the most bang for my buck.

However, my statement was that if girls of the USA were as hot and the same price and gave the same service as the girls of Medellin and Mexico here in the USA, then many more men would be buying sex as compared to the current number of men purchasing sex in the USA. I should have been more direct in stating about the prices. I figured when I stated the economic strength of the USA is why more girls don't sell themselves is basically stating that and forum readers would have been able to figure that out. I will have to be much explicit in my posts going forward. Anyway travel costs are not a factor in the statement I was making because the girls would already be here in the USA,. Duh. Bro. I expect more out of the great JJB. LOL I feel let down after some of the epic arguments you have mustered on this forum LOL.I can't read your post again. You jump around like a meth addict on a pogo stick. You really should change your name to WTF, because that's the most common reaction to anything you post.

The strength of the US economy has very little to do with it. What it mostly is based on is your earning potential compared to the price of a good hooker. It's the same reason most US men don't drive Ferraris, or live in $3 million homes.

In the US, you're doing fairly well if you're making $60 k per year. You can pay the bills, live in a reasonable neighborhood and afford a few nice things. A Colombian making $10-12 k per year is living at about the same level. Simply put, you don't earn enough to afford a decent hooker, other than a rare splurge. Therefore, you only recognize 2 types of hookers, those you can afford and those you can't afford. And in your typical WTF style, you assume all the ones you can afford are nasty skanks and you assume all you can't afford are ridiculously expensive.

While you're mostly correct about girls in your price range, since opioid addiction is such a huge problem here, you're completely out of touch on girls outside of your price range.

At $150 per pop, cheaper in some places, you start finding acceptable options. Once you get to the $250-$300 range, you're mostly dealing with similar quality to a 200 k Medellin girl. By the time you get to $500 girls, you're approaching Medellin top shelf. At the very highest level, the price in Colombia is about the same as in the US. You're going to go into another of your unhinged rants over that, because you don't have any idea what the top level in Colombia is.

I've told this story before. I knew 1 webcam model in Medellin, originally from Bogota, who was consistently earning $500 k or more annually. She had a special deal available. For a single tip of 100,000 tokens she would let the guy take her on a 1 week vacation, to a destination of her choice, all expenses paid by him. 100 k tokens is $5,000 to the model. First class airfare, 5 star accommodations in a top destination, fancy dinners, shopping and the cost might approach $20 k. Now, he's getting more than 1 night for the price, but there's no guarantee she'll put out multiple times per day, or even every day.

Last I heard, she retired to New Zealand. Nice girl. I met her once at a function she was speaking at. Flat out, one of the most beautiful women I've ever seen, anywhere. Oozed sexuality. She could give an erection to a gay eunuch just by saying Hello,. I don't have the money to buy a week with her, but if I bumped into her in Medellin, I'd drop $1000 to spend a night without hesitation. No kissing, CBJ and only 1 pop and I'd be satisfied with the price.

RamDavidson84

04-16-22, 22:06

Have you ever seen someone butcher a chicken? They grab it by the head, sling it across the chopping block and cut off its head. Then they let it go and the headless chicken runs around erratically until it dies. That's the visual I get whenever you post. You run without direction and change direction without reason, flapping your wings in a futile attempt to get off the ground.

You start off claiming all US hookers are nasty, dirty drug addicts that nobody goes to, then you start talking about $500-$1000 hookers that you can't afford. From there you wander down the road of 30 year old regular girls, who quickly change to girls in their 30's and 40's. Finally, with your final breaths, you ask MrE to answer questions about something I posted. It's like going to the circus on acid.

There are women selling pussy right under your nose. Regular women, living regular lives, in regular neighborhoods, selling sex, often in a normal middle class neighborhood, from their home. Some are barely out of high-school, some are drawing Social Security. They come in all shapes and sizes.

It's been several years ago, when I went to a monger-hooker meet and greet party here in the US. About 10 mongers were there along with 7 or 8 hookers. It took place at home of a woman, who is probably 60 now, a grandmother, who had retired from a government job. She had started selling sex to supplement her retirement. Nice woman, although I had no interest in paying for her services. The rest of the girls were in their 20's, all very attractive. There were a few college students. We drank and ate, played some fun games and all got to know each other. As a special deal, all the girls had agreed to on-site services for $100, a $50 discount from their normal rates..Hhahahahaha, I do love how you can't respond to posts without attacking people. Notice how in all my posts I never insulted anyone. I just pointed out reason and logic. I even admitted I should have explained my original post in greater detail, that was my fault. I should have taken into account that many people cannot comprehend how a "strong economy" can lead to higher "wages" and "consumers" will have more "purchasing power" which will lead to "sellers" charging more for their "pussy". All of my posts are as consistent as concrete. For the millionth time, the vast majority of hookers in the USA are skanks and the ones who are not due to the strong wages workers are paid in the USA charge more than the average American guy can afford. I never said "all". Read my posts, I said "most". I even gave a number:80-90% are skanks who I wouldn't pay most of the time. That is my best guess. And there are not many decent girls engaging in prostitution in the first place. Its far easier for me and the average American guy to just get a wife, GF, or side piece for free than pay the hooker prices of young attractive intelligent women in the USA that are charging. You can cry, whine, and attack all you want sir, but me, you, and everyone who reads this forum knows it is true. Now if your into ghetto skank druggies, then yes you can easily find girls to pay to fuck. It's easier for me to fuck girls around my age for free so I don't scour the depths of the dark internet to find these mysterious gems you speak. In Colombia, it's so much easier to find very attractive young women compared to the USA. I can't comprehend how you can argue against that. Instead you make up a strange weird slaughter chicken analogy then support your argument with facts and you have to go back several years and make up a a story about how a bunch of young hot girls were fucking old dudes for 100 $. I call bullshit and I do not believe you for a second. I think you are a liar sir.

Show me proof someone. Stick to the facts. Again, the American economy and dollar is very strong, like I stated, that's why for decades American men have traveled the world going to countries where their dollar can purchase them top talent, just like the men who travel to Colombia. I wonder why we never hear about Colombian men traveling to the USA to pay for escorts? Hmmmmm such a hard question to answer. Maybe it is due to the strength of the American dollar? Duh.

JBB you remind of a typical Democrat, instead of arguing with facts and logic, you will slander and attack. I am surprised you didn't call me racist haha. Show me something where "hot" "young" "clean" American women are fucking middle age dudes for 100 $. It doesn't exist, but you are going to lie and be deceitful and attack and slander like a snake anyway.

RamDavidson84

04-16-22, 22:58

Elvis 2008

04-17-22, 02:17

He said time is money, yet he continues wasting his time on this website with no intention to use it for its intended purpose which is finding women for sex. Therefore he must not value his time nor money. So why does he preach to others that time is money?And how come you are not wasting money posting on this website? That is why you are a Russian judge.

You are like I do not pay any of these women, they all love me even though I see hos, my women are just as in demand as yours, they have jobs, and these women let me stay at their place for free. You get that everyone here knows you are full of shit right?

JjBee62

04-17-22, 02:34

I do not pay between $300-400 in Mexico. I pay between $150-250. Yes, I do question why anyone would hang out in Colombia.I have a couple of questions.

1. Why would anyone who would question why anyone would hang out in Colombia, hang out in the Colombia threads? If you have zero interest or intent to visit Colombia, why bother reading about visiting Colombia, or bicker with people who enjoy Colombia?

2. Why call yourself Drama Free when it appears all you do is seek out unnecessary drama? Perhaps it's just confusion on my part. I think it means you're free of drama, but it means you provide drama for free.

I'm all in favor of busting MrE's chops. It keeps him on his toes and frees up some of my time. I just don't understand why you would waste your time on it here.

Personally I see nothing wrong with Mexico. I enjoyed my brief visit to CDMX and many years ago had a lot of good times in Baja California. If I ever had a reason to spend a lot of time there, I might decide I prefer it to Colombia.

However, I'm lazy, a strange admission from someone who has averaged working about 70 hours a week for more than 40 years. I don't have to learn my way around a new city, or learn new places to hang out. I literally just have to post that I'm in Medellin and 20 women are asking when they can come see me. If I want to hang with the guys and talk sports, I just name the time and place. I've got women who will pick me up at the airport, or cook me dinner. Almost anything I want is readily available, cheap and available for delivery.

And the worldwide consensus is that Colombian women are more beautiful than Mexican women. Both countries have 2 winners of the Miss Universe crown, but Mexico has more than 2. 5 times the population. Of course, Venezuela is the clear winner, followed closely by Puerto Rico.

Mr Enternational

04-17-22, 14:52

And how come you are not wasting money posting on this website? That is why you are a Russian judge. You are like I do not pay any of these women, they all love me even though I see hos, You get that everyone here knows you are full of shit right?You get that you answered your own question right? I am not wasting time or money on this site because as you said I see hos. The website is saving me time and money because it tells me where to find them and how much to generally pay them.

You do not intend to see other women besides the one you are footing the bill for, so you are the one wasting time and money here. Are you really this full of shit not to abide by your own words? Or is this a do as I say and not as I do thing? And you can show your girl what I wrote since she does not mind you being on this website and you don't have to worry about her scrolling through your phone.

You are weird dude. Who vehemently claims they have stopped smoking crack, yet still goes to the crackhouse religiously everyday to hang out and watch other people get high.

JustTK

04-17-22, 15:07

Re-read your quote
The convo was about chix with dix. The record is clear! LMAO.You mean this one?:
"As I menioned, I am not attracted to men, only young women. So how could she turn out to be a man?

Or do you mean this one?
"I am only sexually attracted to young women. ".

LuvMexicanas

04-17-22, 17:03

You get that you answered your own question right? I am not wasting time or money on this site because as you said I see hos. The website is saving me time and money because it tells me where to find them and how much to generally pay them.

You do not intend to see other women besides the one you are footing the bill for, so you are the one wasting time and money here. Are you really this full of shit not to abide by your own words? Or is this a do as I say and not as I do thing? And you can show your girl what I wrote since she does not mind you being on this website and you don't have to worry about her scrolling through your phone.

You are weird dude. Who vehemently claims they have stopped smoking crack, yet still goes to the crackhouse religiously everyday to hang out and watch other people get high.More like weirdest of the weird. He brags about his woman who is allegedly so great there's no need for him to see other women yet he writes the most verbose posts non stop on a website that's intended purpose is finding women for sex. I wish there was a like button because your crack analogy perfectly sums it up.

RamDavidson84

04-17-22, 17:44

I can't read your post again. You jump around like a meth addict on a pogo stick. You really should change your name to WTF, because that's the most common reaction to anything you post.

The strength of the US economy has very little to do with it. What it mostly is based on is your earning potential compared to the price of a good hooker. It's the same reason most US men don't drive Ferraris, or live in $3 million homes.

In the US, you're doing fairly well if you're making $60 k per year. You can pay the bills, live in a reasonable neighborhood and afford a few nice things. A Colombian making $10-12 k per year is living at about the same level. Simply put, you don't earn enough to afford a decent hooker, other than a rare splurge. Therefore, you only recognize 2 types of hookers, those you can afford and those you can't afford. And in your typical WTF style, you assume all the ones you can afford are nasty skanks and you assume all you can't afford are ridiculously expensive.

While you're mostly correct about girls in your price range, since opioid addiction is such a huge problem here, you're completely out of touch on girls outside of your price range.

At $150 per pop, cheaper in some places, you start finding acceptable options. Once you get to the $250-$300 range, you're mostly dealing with similar quality to a 200 k Medellin girl. By the time you get to $500 girls, you're approaching Medellin top shelf. At the very highest level, the price in Colombia is about the same as in the US. You're going to go into another of your unhinged rants over that, because you don't have any idea what the top level in Colombia is.Sometimes you have decent posts I enjoy reading and once in awhile you have points which make sense. You are not making any sense here though. You are bringing up "earning potential" which is relative to what a guy can afford. But a good hooker is not one I can afford or not afford. A good hooker is not addicted to meth, a good hooker is not a fat sloppy ghetto hood rat, a good hooker is half way intelligent and clean with good skin who provides GFE. A good hooker is not in her late thirties, but mid to late 20's. Now a good hooker like that costs so much money, it doesn't make sense to purchase her unless you cannot get pussy any other way or you have very high earning potential. Those hookers, if your lucky are charging 900-1000 a pop, for an hour. Maybe if you spend hours on SA, you can find it cheaper, but at that point it's easier to just fuck girls for free. In Medellin, you getting solid 8's for 200 k-60 $ and that is what Gringos with no Spanish pay, I am assuming the locals get it even cheaper. What are they charging in Centro, 20 $ a fuck? Even when taking into account "earning potential" between the two countries, it's still far easier and cheaper to purchase sex in Colombia. Again, that goes back to my original statement which stated "due to the strength of the American Economy" and ample economic opportunities for women where they can be employed in jobs which pay them high enough wages, they are not tempted or forced to sell their pussies. For American women its much easier to work and earn money and get a boyfriend for a dick. A far less percentage of women participate in prostitution in the USA. There is a low supply of quality prostitutes in the USA, this low supply increases it's price because there is still a decently high demand for it. In Colombia, the supply is much higher, and because there is more of a supply, the price of pussy is cheaper. In Colombia where hookers can make far more money selling their pussy versus working a menial job in an economy which is far weaker than the economy of the USA. Again, a much higher percentage of women engage in prostitution in Colombia, which in the end, is due to a weak economy.

You are 1000% wrong here JJB. I will state it again for you because I see in your old age you are slipping and it must be harder for you to process this information.

The USA has far fewer quality hookers compared to the population of men. This leads to Quality hookers charging a very high price. There are very few hookers in the USA because many women can work and earn high wages which meets their basic needs. Many women can work in high wages careers due to the strength of the American economy.

Colombia has a far weaker economy compared to the USA, so on average fewer women can find career opportunities with high wages which meet their basic needs, this leads to a higher percentage of women engaging in prostitution and more quality escorts. This is why American men with the strength of the American dollar travel as sex tourists, this is why there is no such thing as Colombia men traveling to the USA as sex tourists in any substantial amounts of numbers.

Why argue this JJB? You are so clearly wrong and anyone who reads this can so clearly see it. Dude, just show a back bone and probably at one time you were a decent man who stood for truth, stand for truth and admit everything I stated is true and you are 1 million percent wrong lolololol. I have a feeling you will make up some weird twisted analogy about weirdos who watch decapitated chickens or drug addicts who attend circuses LOL, those are things I don't know much about BTW, for some reason you seem to have first hand knowledge of these "chicken circus mutilation events". I predict you will try to attack my sanity or some other thing about me and point out some insignificant flaw in my post which doesn't even disprove the entire main point of my post, like you have done several times before.

DramaFree11

04-17-22, 18:05

I have a couple of questions.

1. Why would anyone who would question why anyone would hang out in Colombia, hang out in the Colombia threads? If you have zero interest or intent to visit Colombia, why bother reading about visiting Colombia, or bicker with people who enjoy Colombia?

2. Why call yourself Drama Free when it appears all you do is seek out unnecessary drama? Perhaps it's just confusion on my part. I think it means you're free of drama, but it means you provide drama for free.

I'm all in favor of busting MrE's chops. It keeps him on his toes and frees up some of my time. I just don't understand why you would waste your time on it here.

Personally I see nothing wrong with Mexico. I enjoyed my brief visit to CDMX and many years ago had a lot of good times in Baja California. If I ever had a reason to spend a lot of time there, I might decide I prefer it to Colombia..Thank you for the great. As usual you are wrong. No way does Colombia have the best looking girls in the world. Yes, if you like cheap girls, fat asses and fake asses, then yes, they are the best looking girls in the world. Mexico girls are way better looking especially in the major cities, not even close.

Another thing, if you think $60,000 is a good living in America you are dead wrong as usual, this barely above poverty now and if you have a family you would basically be living in poverty. As usual your posts are wrong.

Osteoknot

04-17-22, 19:08

<paraphrased> Why call yourself Drama Free when it appears all you do is seek out unnecessary drama? Perhaps, I am confused. I thought it meant you were free of drama, but what you really meant was that you provide drama for free.Maybe there is hope for your comedy writing, yet.

Usually, when you "subject matter experts" stray too far from the facts, the writing suffers, jeje.

Happy Easter everyone! Let's mark the most important Christian holiday of the year by dipping hard boiled eggs in colored vinegar, hide them for others to find, motivated by an iconic, giant white rabbit. These are the religious, magical, and mystical rituals that bind us all, jejejeje.

A full sample of random gratuitous sex fotos in honor of Easter, all from my most recent trip to Medellin.

Nounce

04-17-22, 19:13

You mean this one?:
"As I menioned, I am not attracted to men, only young women. So how could she turn out to be a man?

Or do you mean this one?
"I am only sexually attracted to young women. ".I think he got confused. He think you know the birth gender of every woman before sex. LOL.

Nounce

04-17-22, 19:16

I have a couple of questions...Those are good ones. Thanks for the laugh.

RamDavidson84

04-17-22, 20:11

Osteoknot

04-17-22, 20:16

Mr Enternational

04-17-22, 22:46

I think he got confused. He think you know the birth gender of every woman before sex. LOL.That is why I do not deal with chicks with a bunch of makeup. Easy enough to use the haircut test though. Without hair, a woman looks like a woman with no hair. Without hair, a tranny will 99.99% of the time look like a bald head dude or a bald head dude wearing makeup. Would you still be attracted to the person if they had no hair and/or makeup?

DramaFree11

04-17-22, 22:48

Federal poverty level for 2022 for single individual is $13,590.

For a famiy of four, it's $27,750.

So in the example above, $60,000 is more than double the poverty level for a family of four, and more than four times the poverty level of an individual. There are plenty of people in the United States who would love to earn $60 K per year, when the median average salary is $34,248.

Dude, to me personally it doesn't matter, but you are coming across as one of "those guys" who show up here, get caught up in the nonsense and end up looking worse and worse the more you post. You have already been reduced to trying to prove your point by saying, "You're wrong" with nothing intelligent to support it, which is about as weak as it gets. As above, fact checking proves you wrong, so now you are confused, at best.

You are starting to become a humorous train wreck in slow motion. You are out-gunned with JuJuBee. He can be a real asshole-pitbull as far as not letting things drop. So do yourself a favor and exit quietly stage left. There's no shame in that.

Of course, there are those here who would say the same about me, as far as looking worse and worse the more I post, but like I always say, consider the source. This Website is full of trolls and arguing with them is pointless. Good luck.This insane, good luck trying to live on $60 K. You guys just keep posting ridiculous, incorrect information. Good advice, I should not get caught up b. S.

DramaFree11

04-17-22, 22:52

BTW 60 k is far below the average salary. The average salary in the USA is now 74 k, the average home costs 400 k. This isn't 1997 anymore, you know- the year you last got your dick hard without Viagra haha jk, take a joke bro. But seriously, with the inflation we are experiencing now, the average salary is going to increase substantially within the next 2 or 3 years. If you have a family-wife and two kids, you better be bringing home 120 k at least, even more if your planning for retirement and college funds for kids. And don't even think about nice cars or vacation time, you better be thinking second and third revenue streams. I wonder who or what is to blame for all this inflation? Hmmmmmmmmm, def not Biden LOL. Hmmmmmmmm def not lockdowns and mandatory covid vaccines or tests which disrupt employees coming to work or cause supply chain disruptions hahaha. Those can't be the reasons. It is definitely not the open border which floods the job market with low skilled laborers who work and don't pay taxes, yet they take advantage of all our social services. Oh shoot, now you all know I am a racist sexist bigot because I stated these openly on a forum, time to cancel me the good old fashioned American way. God Bless America 2022! LOL.Great Post! These guys do not live in the real world, they are completely delusional.

JustTK

04-17-22, 23:05

That is why I do not deal with chicks with a bunch of makeup. Easy enough to use the haircut test though. So your first date always includes a trip to the barber's then? Haha.

JjBee62

04-18-22, 00:13

Hhahahahaha, I do love how you can't respond to posts without attacking people. Notice how in all my posts I never insulted anyone. I just pointed out reason and logic. I even admitted I should have explained my original post in greater detail, that was my fault. I should have taken into account that many people cannot comprehend how a "strong economy" can lead to higher "wages" and "consumers" will have more "purchasing power" which will lead to "sellers" charging more for their "pussy". All of my posts are as consistent as concrete. For the millionth time, the vast majority of hookers in the USA are skanks and the ones who are not due to the strong wages workers are paid in the USA charge more than the average American guy can afford. I never said "all". Read my posts, I said "most". I even gave a number:80-90% are skanks who I wouldn't pay most of the time. That is my best guess. And there are not many decent girls engaging in prostitution in the first place. Its far easier for me and the average American guy to just get a wife, GF, or side piece for free than pay the hooker prices of young attractive intelligent women in the USA that are charging. You can cry, whine, and attack all you want sir, but me, you, and everyone who reads this forum knows it is true. Now if your into ghetto skank druggies, then yes you can easily find girls to pay to fuck. It's easier for me to fuck girls around my age for free so I don't scour the depths of the dark internet to find these mysterious gems you speak. In Colombia, it's so much easier to find very attractive young women compared to the USA. I can't comprehend how you can argue against that. Instead you make up a strange weird slaughter chicken analogy then support your argument with facts and you have to go back several years and make up a a story about how a bunch of young hot girls were fucking old dudes for 100 $. I call bullshit and I do not believe you for a second. I think you are a liar sir..For some time I thought it was all just an act. For some obscure reason you were just pretending to be so far detached from reality, unable to comprehend simple, straightforward sentences. You've clearly shown I was wrong. You're not pretending. You really are unable to discern what is real and what is fantasy.

The only question remaining is whether I should continue to interact with someone who has an undeniable mental health issue.

On the one hand, I'm not responsible for your disorder, nor is it my responsibility to ensure you receive treatment. That responsibility belongs to you, although clearly someone should have taken responsibility for your treatment long ago.

However, when inevitably you end up in the headlines, because the tiny thread which connects you to reality snaps, I don't want to be connected with whatever atrocities you inflict upon the innocent.

Other than pointing out the obvious symptoms, which hopefully will lead to treatment, I'll be walking away. I hope you get the treatment you need.

1. Within days you posted both about a US economy destroyed by Covid and about the strength of the US economy.

2. You claim (again) you never insult others, followed by nothing but insults.

3. You assigned a number to something and then admit it's a guess.

4. You complain that I used facts to rebut your claims.

5. You ask for proof for something where proof can't exist. Prostitutes don't give receipts.

There's no need to continue. Anyone can look at your posts and draw their own conclusions.

JjBee62

04-18-22, 01:00

Thank you for the great. As usual you are wrong. No way does Colombia have the best looking girls in the world. Yes, if you like cheap girls, fat asses and fake asses, then yes, they are the best looking girls in the world. Mexico girls are way better looking especially in the major cities, not even close.

Another thing, if you think $60,000 is a good living in America you are dead wrong as usual, this barely above poverty now and if you have a family you would basically be living in poverty. As usual your posts are wrong.Thanks for the answer. You're just here to troll.

If you had a legitimate purpose here, you would have answered the questions. Instead you read 2 things, in 2 different posts and failed to understand either one.

1. Beauty- Perhaps you don't understand "worldwide consensus." The Miss Universe pageant is the premier beauty pageant in the world. Its purpose is to compare relative beauty by country. It's purpose has nothing to do with your standards of beauty or mine. Judges who have assumed qualifications are selected from around the world and they score contestants in several categories to determine a winner. The winner is the worldwide consensus of the most beautiful woman. All clear?

By considering the number of winners from each country and adjusting for population, you get the worldwide consensus ranking of beauty by country. Still with me?

Mexico and Columbia each have 2 winners, but Mexico has a much larger population. Therefore, the worldwide consensus is that Columbian women are more beautiful than Mexican women.

Just to belabor the point, because you don't seem too bright, I didn't say you think Colombian women are more beautiful. I didn't say I think Colombian women are more beautiful. I picked a specific gage of beauty and pointed to it.

It's also worth pointing out that there are a wide variety of women in every country. I personally have never had a problem finding beautiful women in Colombia. If I was spending my time in Mexico I would have no problem finding beautiful women there. Your inability to find beautiful women in Colombia shows a failure on your part, nor a lack of beautiful women.

2. $60,000- I never said $60 k is a good living in the US. I said if you earn $60 k, you're probably doing okay. Once again I specified, a reasonable house, a reasonable neighborhood, a bit of discretionary income.

A good living is completely subjective. You could be earning $500 k annually, but due to poor money management, excessive expenses and where you live, you can barely be getting by. On the other hand, with the correct discipline, someone making $50 k could be doing quite well.

As for living in poverty, unless you live in Alaska, with 9 people in your household, at $60 k you're above the poverty line. For a single adult male, $60 k is enough to afford a reasonable house in a reasonable neighborhood, a new car every 4 years, all the basic necessities a Harley, a boat and a camper, although you would be carrying more debt than I'm comfortable with.

I know this because many of the people I used to work with make about that much and I've been in their garages.

Here's a helpful tip:

If you haven't a fucking clue what you're talking about, maybe you should resist the temptation to prove it.

JjBee62

04-18-22, 01:03

Federal poverty level for 2022 for single individual is $13,590.

For a famiy of four, it's $27,750.

So in the example above, $60,000 is more than double the poverty level for a family of four, and more than four times the poverty level of an individual. There are plenty of people in the United States who would love to earn $60 K per year, when the median average salary is $34,248.

Dude, to me personally it doesn't matter, but you are coming across as one of "those guys" who show up here, get caught up in the nonsense and end up looking worse and worse the more you post. You have already been reduced to trying to prove your point by saying, "You're wrong" with nothing intelligent to support it, which is about as weak as it gets. As above, fact checking proves you wrong, so now you are confused, at best.

You are starting to become a humorous train wreck in slow motion. You are out-gunned with JuJuBee. He can be a real asshole-pitbull as far as not letting things drop. So do yourself a favor and exit quietly stage left. There's no shame in that.

Of course, there are those here who would say the same about me, as far as looking worse and worse the more I post, but like I always say, consider the source. This Website is full of trolls and arguing with them is pointless. Good luck.I prefer Snapping Turtle to Pitbull. I'm cold-blooded.

RamDavidson84

04-18-22, 02:11

RamDavidson84

04-18-22, 02:22

I prefer Snapping Turtle to Pitbull. I'm cold-blooded.Nah, more like an old dude who has absolutely nothing better to do. I sincerely doubt you were ever a tough guy in real life. I can tell from all your posts, you are a life long ***** who has never dared scrap in the street. A real dude admits when he is wrong and his logic is flawed. Like yours often is on this forum.

You stated American Hookers are somewhat close to Colombian Hookers in price, looks, and service and you have had multiple chances to go back on that statement and just state the truth we all know and you haven't because you can't just have a normal discussion, you need to prove your right to make yourself feel better, and even when you are wrong you won't admit it and would rather look like a fool, which is what you are, you are a fool to anyone who has read these posts. I pity the fool!! LOL.

Gabacho

04-18-22, 02:35

Thanks for the answer. You're just here to troll.

If you had a legitimate purpose here, you would have answered the questions. Instead you read 2 things, in 2 different posts and failed to understand either one.

1. Beauty- Perhaps you don't understand "worldwide consensus." The Miss Universe pageant is the premier beauty pageant in the world. Its purpose is to compare relative beauty by country. It's purpose has nothing to do with your standards of beauty or mine. Judges who have assumed qualifications are selected from around the world and they score contestants in several categories to determine a winner. The winner is the worldwide consensus of the most beautiful woman. All clear?

By considering the number of winners from each country and adjusting for population, you get the worldwide consensus ranking of beauty by country. Still with me?

Mexico and Columbia each have 2 winners, but Mexico has a much larger population. Therefore, the worldwide consensus is that Columbian women are more beautiful than Mexican women.

Just to belabor the point, because you don't seem too bright, I didn't say you think Colombian women are more beautiful. I didn't say I think Colombian women are more beautiful. I picked a specific gage of beauty and pointed to it.

It's also worth pointing out that there are a wide variety of women in every country. I personally have never had a problem finding beautiful women in Colombia. If I was spending my time in Mexico I would have no problem finding beautiful women there. Your inability to find beautiful women in Colombia shows a failure on your part, nor a lack of beautiful women.

2. $60,000- I never said $60 k is a good living in the US. I said if you earn $60 k, you're probably doing okay. Once again I specified, a reasonable house, a reasonable neighborhood, a bit of discretionary income.

A good living is completely subjective. You could be earning $500 k annually, but due to poor money management, excessive expenses and where you live, you can barely be getting by. On the other hand, with the correct discipline, someone making $50 k could be doing quite well.

As for living in poverty, unless you live in Alaska, with 9 people in your household, at $60 k you're above the poverty line. For a single adult male, $60 k is enough to afford a reasonable house in a reasonable neighborhood, a new car every 4 years, all the basic necessities a Harley, a boat and a camper, although you would be carrying more debt than I'm comfortable with.

I know this because many of the people I used to work with make about that much and I've been in their garages.

Here's a helpful tip:

If you haven't a fucking clue what you're talking about, maybe you should resist the temptation to prove it.Yea I stopped replying to his comments since he is just here to troll. Funny his name is DramaFree but all he does is start drama. If Mexico is so much better than Colombia and Medellin then go fucking post in the Mexico forum, bro. We get it that you think it's better there and you don't like Medellin, but why do you need to come here and whine about it like a little *****? GTFOH and go post in the Mexico City forum and stop clogging up the Medellin forum with your bullshit opinions and Making more work for the moderators who have to sift thru your crap and move it into the stupid shit in Medellin forum.

-Gabacho.

Gabacho

04-18-22, 03:01

Your comments call into question whether you've been to Medellin either. There are a plethora of excellent restaurants in the Poblado area and also in the Parque Laureles area. The climate in Medellin is widely considered one of the best possible. Why don't you share your profound wisdom. Which cities have a better climate? Tourist attractions? I guess that depends a lot on what your interests are.

Here are a few other considerations:

Coffee? Most restaurants routinely have great coffee. Why? The beans are picked and roasted daily or every other day. The beans didn't sit in a warehouse for a month.

https://www.colombia.co/en/trade-with-colombia/exports/colombian-coffee-worlds-favorite/

How about the wealth of fruits and vegetables? They have a 12 month growing season. So Colombians don't need to add color chemicals or preservatives to keep the produce looking good so that they can extend the shelf-life. Here if fruits or vegetables start to look worn they replace them and send the aging produce to the poorer barrios. Have you ever tasted a Pitaya or Granadilla??

Colombia is one of the most bio-diverse countries in the world.

https://theculturetrip.com/south-america/colombia/articles/heres-why-colombia-is-one-of-the-most-biodiverse-countries-on-earth/

What about beautiful women?

https://www.scoopwhoop.com/inothernews/countries-beautiful-women/

They rate Colombia as #5 for the most beautiful women. I think there might be some favoritism in that ranking. But this is something that is ALWAYS subjective.

Medellin is the most modern city in Colombia. They have an ever-expanding metro system and metro-cables that take people in gondola style lifts up the sides of the mountains that profile the city.

Medellin doesn't have horrible pollution like some other large cities and many areas of Medellin are flat so walking or biking is a pleasure. The altitude is not oppressive like MEX, BOG or UIO.

BTW on Sundays Medellin closes down some of the major avenues for "Ciclovia". This allows people to jog, walk, ride their bike, walk their pet, push their baby carriage on a paved street for most of the Sunday mornings.Medellin has the best fucking coffee. Early mornings wandering around Centro on Oriental with a 300 peso plastic cup of tinto and Starlite cigarette-- excellent. Can't wait to get back. I've already booked my flights.

-Gabacho.

JjBee62

04-18-22, 03:13

When I said a person could live reasonably well on $60 k per year, it was because I know for a fact a person can live reasonably well on that amount. After thinking about it, I realized how correct I was. This requires some background.

From early April 2017 to the end of March 2018 I lived in Medellin. When I left Medellin I had nothing. I brought back 2 suitcases of clothes and had about $100, along with $1000 of debt and about $1500 obligated over the next 10 months. I had no job, no car, no furniture, no place to live, nothing. I was just one step away from making a "will work for food sign."

Fortunately, temporary free housing was available. Another fortunate thing, I can get a job easier than a 14 year old boy can get an erection. I just have to look at a job and boing, "when can you start. " Two days later, I was employed and 2 weeks later I had a car, a bed (bought new in 1969) and a cheap place to live. Over the next 12 months I paid off the debt, the car, the obligation, replaced the bed, improved my wardrobe and planned a 2 week vacation in Medellin. My income over that 1 year, $54 k.

By the end of that year, I was spending freely and had built my checking account back to being able to handle minor emergencies. Had I stayed with that job, I probably would be making $60 k right now.

And I would be doing alright. I could still afford my current housing, which I've been in for 3 years. I'd still be driving the same car, which is 1 year old. I would still have been able to buy the furniture I have now. I would still be able to afford my yearly return to Medellin. I would have to spend less. No rental car, no first class, a step down with lodging, but that's it. I'd still be doing all that I normally do in Medellin.

Granted, my frivolous spending would be cut back, but that doesn't change my standard of living.

Of course, if I was supporting a family, it might be different, or not. First off, chances are the wife would be working, pushing household income over $100 k. I also wouldn't be taking solo mongering trips. As for kids, I'm closer to 60 than I am to my next paycheck. Any kids should be either on their own, or living in the basement and making up bullshit stories about traveling.

So if anyone believes it's not possible to live reasonably well on $60 k, it tells me 2 things.

1. You never had to work to get where you are. Mommy and Daddy kept you on the tit well into your 30's and made sure their little angel never had to step into the real world.

2. You're completely out of touch with how most Americans live.

I'll end with a memory. About 9 years ago I briefly dated a school teacher. She had a nice house and a decent car and lived well on probably $35-$40 k. I was making a bit more, but drove a car that looked ready for the scrap yard. It was dependable, economical and paid for. One of the reasons we stopped dating was my car. It looked like I was homeless.

About 6 months later I took my first trip to Colombia, Bogota. The day I posted pictures of Bogota, she sent a long email trying to see if I would come back. However, once I realized that there were other options, I couldn't consider settling for less.

JustTK

04-18-22, 03:22

you haven't because you can't just have a normal discussion, you need to prove your right to make yourself feel better, and even when you are wrong you won't admit it and would rather look like a fool, which is what you are, you are a fool to anyone who has read these posts. I pity the fool!! LOL.Hehe. I don't have a lot in common with you Ram, we have plenty of differences in terms of background, outlook, politicis, etc. . But I feel like I could have a conversation w you, share a beer and shoot the breeze in a respectful and friendly manner.

The one thing we share is an understanding and dislike of this AR $ehole. He is so transparent when you examine his arguments. Do you know what a sophist is? He is the King of the Sophists. He can't help himself. He has to put his opinion forward on everything, trying to make himself look smart, ridiculing others. But all he does is construct fallacious arguments and insult. Yep, some smart guy.

People think Osteo is crazy, but this guy takes the cake. I don't think I could bear to share the same room with him, nevermind a beer.

RamDavidson84

04-18-22, 03:55

Hehe. I don't have a lot in common with you Ram, we have plenty of differences in terms of background, outlook, politicis, etc. . But I feel like I could have a conversation w you, share a beer and shoot the breeze in a respectful and friendly manner.

The one thing we share is an understanding and dislike of this AR $ehole. He is so transparent when you examine his arguments. Do you know what a sophist is? He is the King of the Sophists. He can't help himself. He has to put his opinion forward on everything, trying to make himself look smart, ridiculing others. But all he does is construct fallacious arguments and insult. Yep, some smart guy.

People think Osteo is crazy, but this guy takes the cake. I don't think I could bear to share the same room with him, nevermind a beer.Exactly Justk, people like you are my favorite type of people to exchange ideas with and share a beer. There is no constant threat of hostility, just an open forum to exchange ideas to gain a greater understanding of the world around us. I certainly don't have all the answers to life's questions and of course I am biased because of my background as a white priviliged American male. But one thing that was instilled in me and many people like me of a similar background is to always keep an open mind and look at issues from other people's perspectives to enhance your own knowledge. I was also taught when a man slaps you in the face, it's your right to slap him back. That's why when JJB starts his Bullshit, I give it right back to him. If he wanted to discuss prices in Colombia vs USA in a civil manner, it would be much easy and it would benefit us both more in the end instead of him just trying to accuse me of being "delusional" and "not in touch with reality" LOL. People read these posts and realize he's just a bitter old man who doesn't have the emotional stability to engage in a conversation with someone who doesn't agree with him 100% of the time and stroke his ego. He's a sad soul, once again, I pity the fool! LOL.

RamDavidson84

04-18-22, 05:49

For some time I thought it was all just an act. For some obscure reason you were just pretending to be so far detached from reality, unable to comprehend simple, straightforward sentences. You've clearly shown I was wrong. You're not pretending. You really are unable to discern what is real and what is fantasy.

The only question remaining is whether I should continue to interact with someone who has an undeniable mental health issue.

On the one hand, I'm not responsible for your disorder, nor is it my responsibility to ensure you receive treatment. That responsibility belongs to you, although clearly someone should have taken responsibility for your treatment long ago.

However, when inevitably you end up in the headlines, because the tiny thread which connects you to reality snaps, I don't want to be connected with whatever atrocities you inflict upon the innocent.

Other than pointing out the obvious symptoms, which hopefully will lead to treatment, I'll be walking away. I hope you get the treatment you need..OK first off, I admit I am going into asshole territory for my own personal enjoyment haha. I pulled a hamstring and I have been laying in bed for two days waiting for it to heal and I have nothing better to do than analyze these unbelievably hysterical posts by BJJJB69.

LOL Lets begin friends. So I am curious, what "act" did you think I was trying to put on? Like you thought I was putting on an act that I am detached from reality because I argued Colombia hookers are cheaper than American hookers LOL. Please elaborate on what exactly you meant by this LOL.

You then say I am unable to distinguish between reality and fantasy. Where is your evidence which points to the fact that I am unable to distinguish between fantasy and reality? Please provide proof for how you came to this conclusion for the forum to read and show them the "pitbull" that you are when it comes to not letting these things go hahaha. Cmon Cujo / JJbJ69, let's see that ferocity and show the forum evidence of how I am detached from reality lololol.

So, how you answered your final question yet, will you continue to interact with someone like me who has an obvious mental health issue because I argued Colombian women hookers charge less than American hookers? I hope we can still engage in these lovely debates. I really do find them absolutely hysterical. LOL. I am also curious, since you have diagnosed me with a mental heath issue, what exactly is my diagnosis: psychophrenia, bi-polar, depression, personality disorder. I would really love to hear your opinion on this hahahaha. You must be the greatest shrink to ever live to be able to make such determinations off such minimal information presented. Kinda reminds me of Hanibal Lectur from Silence of the Lambs, you'are definitely as creepy as that dude.

Your brilliance shines through when you are able all by yourself to determine that "you are not responsible for my disorder" and you so nobly state "how it is also not your responsibly to ensure I receive the proper treatment. " I commend you sir for using your critical thinking skills to come up with these conclusions that since you are not by psychologist, it is not your responsibility to treat my mental health disorders LOL.

Again, you have saved the best for last LOL, you- using your Sherlock Holmes-like skills of deduction have concluded that it is just a matter of time until I inflict harm upon the innocent and somehow, someway, somewhere due to your massive unhealthy ego, you think where I do commit these acts which harm the innocent, you really think the posts you engage with me on this platform will be linked to it. And you're evidence for claiming I am going to harm innocent people is because I claimed Colombian hookers charge less than American hookers. You deserve a standing ovation from a room of physicians for you skills of deductions in foreseeing the atrocities I am likely to commit due to my claim regarding the prices of Colombian prostitutes hahahhaa.

And there is even more, please do explain the obvious symptoms which you forgot to point out. Please compile a list of these symptoms for us all to read and gain a deeper understanding of so we can treat other who suffer from afflictions similar to mine. LOL I would love to see the flawless logic you display here.

Jbb62- you are so full of shit and such a weird insecure little man, I really do pity your foolish existence. Here is my next prediction- you won't reply, you will run and show your self to be a coward because every time you post- you just reveal more about your pathetic existence. And it's not pathetic because you are poor in material wealth, you're sir are poor in intellectual and moral wealth and that is close to unforgivable for a man of your age and experience. In all serious, it is you who should seek some type of mental health outlets to eliminate the bias and hate which manifests itself in your posts and clearly resides in your heart, sir.

JjBee62

04-18-22, 09:33

Medellin has the best fucking coffee. Early mornings wandering around Centro on Oriental with a 300 peso plastic cup of tinto and Starlite cigarette-- excellent. Can't wait to get back. I've already booked my flights..I gave up coffee several years ago, but I will have a cup or two when I'm there. Tickets are bought and bag is packed.

JjBee62

04-18-22, 10:08

Hehe. I don't have a lot in common with you Ram, we have plenty of differences in terms of background, outlook, politicis, etc. . But I feel like I could have a conversation w you, share a beer and shoot the breeze in a respectful and friendly manner.

The one thing we share is an understanding and dislike of this AR $ehole. He is so transparent when you examine his arguments. Do you know what a sophist is? He is the King of the Sophists. He can't help himself. He has to put his opinion forward on everything, trying to make himself look smart, ridiculing others. But all he does is construct fallacious arguments and insult. Yep, some smart guy.

People think Osteo is crazy, but this guy takes the cake. I don't think I could bear to share the same room with him, nevermind a beer.My goodness. It's all pretty funny if you think about it. You toss insults intended for me, and in the same breath complain that I insult people. While it may be true that I insult people, at least I have the decency to direct my insults straight to the person. You sit in the corner whispering insults like a jealous school girl.

With regards to fallacious arguments, you do recall that you ran away and hid from me when you couldn't counter anything I posted?

I completely understand why you couldn't share the same room with me. You're afraid. It's obvious. You're too terrified to respond and direct your insults at me. You're too scared to call me an asshole, or even the more timid "arsehole."

The first step to overcoming your fear is to acknowledge it. At this pace, I probably won't live long enough for you to take the first step. It would be better if the first step was to stop pissing yourself whenever my name is mentioned. You would still be shivering in fear, but you might smell better.

I almost forgot the funniest part. The funniest part is that all of the little barking at me from under your bed makes me worse. When I can intimidate someone so much, with just a few words that they can't even reply, and I can dominate their thoughts, so they can't avoid talking about me, that's power.

I need to work on my evil laugh.

Elvis 2008

04-18-22, 15:09

The one thing we share is an understanding and dislike of this AR $ehole. He is so transparent when you examine his arguments. Do you know what a sophist is? He is the King of the Sophists. He can't help himself. He has to put his opinion forward on everything, trying to make himself look smart, ridiculing others. But all he does is construct fallacious arguments and insult. Yep, some smart guy.

People think Osteo is crazy, but this guy takes the cake. I don't think I could bear to share the same room with him, nevermind a beer.Yeah, you hit the nail on the head. The guy has opinions on seeking / SA and has never used it. He went and lectured on Covid for a year telling everyone all about it and then said he had no symptoms when he boarded an airplane. I was like WTF are you talking about; you had tons of symptoms. He spreads Covid and then has the balls to make the comment that the reason Covid is spreading is because of idiots and does not even see the irony.

Now he is saying $60,000 per year is a lot and then goes on a self-centered rant. The truth is that it is relative. $60,000 is a lot for rural Missouri but it is not if you are on the coasts or bigger central cities but instead of being respectful and seeing the POV of others he goes off on an ego trip about himself.

And finally with women, he talks about the high end in Colombia being the same in the USA when he has NEVER done the high end in either country. That was obvious. High end is $1000+ per hour in most of the USA. You can get that for a little less in fly over country.

I bedded 3 beauty queen types in Colombia. I paid $100 to $150 for several hours / the night and had bare back sex. Honestly, the issue with Colombia and the high end is that it is harder to find high end women, much harder than say Mexico or Brazil. There are not clubs like Hong Kong or the boates in Sao Paulo.

That is where the value is with Colombia: the high end or a guy wanting to bang 10 women for <$200. For the middle range, women who are in the 7 or 8 range, Mexico is a better deal. Mexico is also a better deal if you do not have time to look for the 9's and 10's and Brazil is better and easier if you want the 9-10 type too.

I was talking to a friend last night and we could not come up with anyone who has what I have, so I am going to quit saying that other guys can get it. Thing is that I do know guys on here like Dramafree who are looking for it and doing the work, spending the money, and have the game to get there, but so many guys here are just talkers.

Mr. E tries to make his women, who he admits are 5's, into the equivalent of 10's, but at least he admits what he is doing. I call JJBee Professor Shit for Brains because not only will he say his 6 or 7 is a 10, he will insult you and come up with a thousand analogies as to why his woman is hotter and better than yours, but I think he is so screwed in the head that he really thinks his 6 or 7 is a 10.

When I say my gal is a 10, yes I think that but so do my friends. I did a quick time phone call with my mother recently and had her talk to my gal, and even my mother said, "Wow, you are so beautiful" to her.

Do you know what JJBee thinks is a 10? Any girl on his arm. You see how he is, and I see how he is, and I just wonder if it is his politics that makes so many guys so blind to who he is.

Huacho

04-18-22, 16:05

RamDavidson84

04-18-22, 16:53

I just really hope this RamDavidson dude did not choose his screen name due to being an alumnus of Colorado State. That would be terribly disappointing. In any case it would be good to know where he did go to school so that we can avoid sending our kids there.HUachooooooooooo LIbreeeeeeeeeeee lollololol. What's up Taco Libre, Como estas mi amigo? Look, you jumped in and took a shot at me, so at least back it up with substance? C'Mon. Let the forum know why I am such a bad guy, such a terrible human being, that you would not even send your children to the same school I attended. I am so evil and vile that I must have corrupted the educational institution I attended to it's core and sending your children there would obviously be too a great a risk in having even the slightest connection to a scoundrel such as myself- correct?

But, just back it up with facts, that's all I ask. Point something out that proves, hey this guy RamD84 is a bad guy and he wants what is worst for people and he wants to hurt them and has no regard for truth, morality, or logic.

My guess is that like your boy JBBJJ, you will just call me "crazy" and "delusional" and back it up with absolutely no substance what so ever.

If someone has a different opinion than you, you don't need label them a racist, sexist, bigot. Try just understanding where they came from which shaped their beliefs and maybe you will learn a little something about the world and maybe even yourself. You may even benefit from it.

Sossi

04-18-22, 17:13

Looks like Syphilis.

Maybe there is hope for your comedy writing, yet.

Usually, when you "subject matter experts" stray too far from the facts, the writing suffers, jeje.

Happy Easter everyone! Let's mark the most important Christian holiday of the year by dipping hard boiled eggs in colored vinegar, hide them for others to find, motivated by an iconic, giant white rabbit. These are the religious, magical, and mystical rituals that bind us all, jejejeje.

A full sample of random gratuitous sex fotos in honor of Easter, all from my most recent trip to Medellin.

Osteoknot

04-18-22, 19:05

Looks like Syphilis.I used to be an expert in STD's but I haven't kept up since I retired in 2019. With that said, nothing really new has come down the pike about STD's since then and I haven't read anyone here who shows more knowledge about STD's than I have collected under my left pinky fingernail. In fact, every single STD post I have read here had significant errors except one post I read by Gene Hickman got it right mainly because he cited a credible source.

Instead of spending my time correcting a bunch of unteachable knuckleheads, the take-home message should be to not get your medical info from a Web site like this, jaja.

Only the second stage of syphilis has a rash and the classic sign is rash on palms and soles. The rash can appear on other parts of the body but if I were showing you syphilis with just the rash on her ass, then that would be intentionally misleading. For the morphology or appearance of the rash, I will give you that it could be considered similar to syphilis so your guess is not a bad one. Syphilis is making a comeback and I know one girl recently in MDE who had it.

Big hint: This chica likes the way I eat her ass so she stops by to see me when she gets that desire and I oblige her. We have a long and complicated relationship. Anywho, I did not hesitate to eat her ass when it was in this condition, although her crack and her holes were not affected.

You can think as many of the small minded and uninformed people here do, that I was engaging in some sort of reckless, high risk behavior. However, in this example, her condition was obviously not contagious and we both could still enjoy ourselves without worry, which we did several times. Unfortunately, her rash is getting worse and is starting to pose some general health risks. She needs to do something about it. Another huge hint if we are going to play this game, any kind of medicines you can think of, pills, creams, shots, would be temporary "band-aid" solutions at best. Ostee Out.

JustTK

04-18-22, 19:31

Yeah, you hit the nail on the head. The guy has sHe has smthg to say about everything yet knows nothing. Dunning and kruger strikes again. He is so disillusioned that he keeps repllying to me despite me not engaging w Hi I'm for 6 months. I guess he was bullied at school.

JjBee62

04-18-22, 21:08

Yeah, you hit the nail on the head. The guy has opinions on seeking / SA and has never used it. He went and lectured on Covid for a year telling everyone all about it and then said he had no symptoms when he boarded an airplane. I was like WTF are you talking about; you had tons of symptoms. He spreads Covid and then has the balls to make the comment that the reason Covid is spreading is because of idiots and does not even see the irony.

Now he is saying $60,000 per year is a lot and then goes on a self-centered rant. The truth is that it is relative. $60,000 is a lot for rural Missouri but it is not if you are on the coasts or bigger central cities but instead of being respectful and seeing the POV of others he goes off on an ego trip about himself.

And finally with women, he talks about the high end in Colombia being the same in the USA when he has NEVER done the high end in either country. That was obvious. High end is $1000+ per hour in most of the USA. You can get that for a little less in fly over country.

I bedded 3 beauty queen types in Colombia. I paid $100 to $150 for several hours / the night and had bare back sex. Honestly, the issue with Colombia and the high end is that it is harder to find high end women, much harder than say Mexico or Brazil. There are not clubs like Hong Kong or the boates in Sao Paulo...If you boys keep giving me these ego boosts, I may become insufferable. Name one other person on ISG who gets mentioned as frequently as I by people who are afraid to interact with him? It's insane. There are like half a dozen of you, who can't go a week without mentioning me. Then you go around, unable to counter anything I say without first changing my words into something completely different, and claim I'm wrong about something I never said.

I really should consider a career as an online gay escort. If jjbee62 is cumming across all your lips 20 times a day, I should be getting paid.

Grow something to replace that gash, LaVagina. If you want to counter anything I said, copy the post and debate what's there, instead of pretending I said something entirely different. Or is it safer to just huddle together with your girls and whisper about how mean I am?

JjBee62

04-18-22, 22:01

He has smthg to say about everything yet knows nothing. Dunning and kruger strikes again. He is so disillusioned that he keeps repllying to me despite me not engaging w Hi I'm for 6 months. I guess he was bullied at school.And you keep talking about me, even though you're emotionally incapable of responding to me. Guess which is more pathetic.

BTW you might need to find a new place to hide. I'll be back in Envigado soon. You've already stated your terrified about being in the same room as I, and since I know so many people in Envigado, it's almost certain someone will mention the other tall extranjero. Put on a diaper just in case. It would be embarrassing if you pissed yourself in public just because you think I might be around.

Nounce

04-18-22, 22:40

...we could not come up with anyone who has what I have...Have you thought about why?

RamDavidson84

04-19-22, 00:18

If you boys keep giving me these ego boosts, I may become insufferable. Name one other person on ISG who gets mentioned as frequently as I by people who are afraid to interact with him? It's insane. There are like half a dozen of you, who can't go a week without mentioning me. Then you go around, unable to counter anything I say without first changing my words into something completely different, and claim I'm wrong about something I never said.

I really should consider a career as an online gay escort. If jjbee62 is cumming across all your lips 20 times a day, I should be getting paid.

Grow something to replace that gash, LaVagina. If you want to counter anything I said, copy the post and debate what's there, instead of pretending I said something entirely different. Or is it safer to just huddle together with your girls and whisper about how mean I am?Maybe, just maybe people are posting about you because you are a compulsive deranged liar who habitually inserts himself negatively into everyone else's post in a manner in which you insult and belittle others, especially when their views do not aline exactly with you own. You did exactly this to me, which is why I am responding to you here, again. Just leave people alone and don't post complete nonsense, and you will not have people posting about you. Like your outlandish argument about the prices between American and Colombian Hookers. It's so clear in your argument, that you just want attention, you are an online attention working girl because in real life I am sure you go completely unnoticed. You come off to me as a nobody in real life, and a pretender online. You are a joke in the eyes of many who read these posts. I don't even find you funny anymore, you annoying and pathetic at this point. I even have board members private messaging me telling me they are so glad I am calling you out on all this bullshit because you have been spewing your venom here too long and can never have any substance to back up your arguments. Dude, until you want to just engage in normal debate and conversations, just don't post. It's that simple. Be a decent person and if you have a argument, just back it up with some type of substance or facts or logic or reason. Otherwise you are just a troll.

Huacho

04-19-22, 00:41

HUachooooooooooo LIbreeeeeeeeeeee lollololol. What's up Taco Libre, Como estas mi amigo? Look, you jumped in and took a shot at me, so at least back it up with substance? C'Mon. Let the forum know why I am such a bad guy, such a terrible human being, that you would not even send your children to the same school I attended.Oh, I have no idea whether you are a bad guy or not; it's just that your writing is terrible so I hope you didn't go to one of the schools I taught at.

Mr Enternational

04-19-22, 01:18

Mr. E tries to make his women, who he admits are 5's, into the equivalent of 10's, but at least he admits what he is doing.Please quote the post where I said this. It does not exist. I have never even personally used a number scale to rate women, so of course I never said anyone is a 5, 6, 7, or anything else.

At least Elvis admits he prefers men, but likes to use the Sugar Baby scheme as a cover.

JjBee62

04-19-22, 02:05

Have you thought about why?Because it's difficult to diagnose others with a newly detected mental illness until the condition is better understood and literature detailing the condition is readily available.

JjBee62

04-19-22, 02:06

MarquisdeSade1

04-19-22, 02:17

Please quote the post where I said this. It does not exist. I have never even personally used a number scale to rate women, so of course I never said anyone is a 5, 6, 7, or anything else.

At least Elvis admits he prefers men, but likes to use the Sugar Baby scheme as a cover.Morbidly obese Elvis DTing the Weiner.

And taking it up his feces caked cornhole ROTFLMMFAO.

RamDavidson84

04-19-22, 02:20

Oh, I have no idea whether you are a bad guy or not; it's just that your writing is terrible so I hope you didn't go to one of the schools I taught at.And yet in the single sentence you wrote, you could not use correct grammar haha. "it's just that your writing is terrible so I hope you didn't go to one of the schools I taught at."

You should have wrote "It's" with a capital "I". And there should have been an " after terrible. Here, your sentence should have been written like this. It's just that your' writing is so terrible, I would hope you didn't go to one of the schools I taught at. " And a better word to use to signify someone went to a school is "attend", I hope you didn't attend one of the schools I taught at. And usually at the University level, one wouldn't use the word "taught", they would refer to themselves as an educator who educates.

I personally would have written the sentence this way, especially if I am criticizing someone for their writing skills. It's just that your writing is so terrible, I would hope you didn't attend one of the Universities I was employed as an educator at.

I mean you are trying to go for the high and mighty and intelligent thing here, so you might as well choose the most intelligent vernacular to draft your statement with. Let me get guess Taco Libre, English is your second language? In that case I give you a pass and commend you for semi-mastering a second language. Your English is better than my Spanish I must admit.

Elvis 2008

04-19-22, 03:00

Please quote the post where I said this. It does not exist. I have never even personally used a number scale to rate women, so of course I never said anyone is a 5, 6, 7, or anything else.You said that you like average women and on a 1 to 10 scale, that is a 5.

At least Elvis admits he prefers men, but likes to use the Sugar Baby scheme as a cover.That is not helping you. You are not one of the Democrat guys running out pushing their politics on the forum. There is no hope for those douches. With you, this is a pure inferiority complex: the crack house comment, the why are you posting here, and now this? I did not engage with you to insult you but look at what you have become.

If seeing women for you is like going to a crack house, then you need to stop. Your concern now seems to be that you are king of the crack house. You need to deal with your guilt, and it is going to take a long time. I am putting you on ignore for your sake.

Huacho

04-19-22, 04:05

And yet in the single sentence you wrote, you could not use correct grammar haha. "it's just that your writing is terrible so I hope you didn't go to one of the schools I taught at."

You should have wrote "It's" with a capital "I".You made three mistakes in one sentence. No, you do not capitalize after a semi-colon. Should have written, not should have wrote, and periods go inside quotation marks.

And there should have been an " after terrible.Huh?

Here, your sentence should have been written like this. It's just that your' writing is so terrible, I would hope you didn't go to one of the schools I taught at. " And a better word to use to signify someone went to a school is "attend",Not sure why you put an apostrophe at the end of "your" and you need a semi-colon and not a comma after "attend" because you're linking two independent clauses. You just gave a classic example of a comma splice.

And usually at the University level, one wouldn't use the word "taught", they would refer to themselves as an educator who educates. I taught at five universities and only an ostentatious prick would say they educated. And again, you are creating the dreaded "comma splice" by linking two complete sentences, which requires a semi-colon. Never once heard it.

It's just that your writing is so terrible, I would hope you didn't attend one of the Universities I was employed as an educator at.There is no reason to use the conditional tense there.

you might as well choose the most intelligent vernacular to draft your statement with.You don't know what that word means.

Your English is better than my Spanish I must admit.My Spanish is also better than your Spanish. WTF does 'taco libre' mean?

Huacho

04-19-22, 04:10

And usually at the University levelOh, I forgot this one. You don't capitalize "university" when you are using it generically. What university did you go to? I went to Liberty University (not! And learn what a paragraph is FFS.

Elvis 2008

04-19-22, 07:47

Have you thought about why?Yeah, we talked about that too, and my friend gave me really good advice. Try to keep her out of the USA and I agree with him. I have had friends rise to the top of their game, accumulate large amounts of wealth, and find themselves completely trapped by loveless marriages. I know no one who has a truly happy marriage. I think both people have to bring close to the same amount to the table for a marriage to work.

I joked with an uber driver that in our system it is fair that you split a man's assets 50-50 while the woman keeps 100% of hers. So how many guys can break out of the system and say "I am not a loser in this game, but the game is rigged. " Yeah, I talk to you guys on line here but do you know how many guys I know in real life who make the jump? Very, very few.

And most of those that do are not going into the foreign game without guides.

Okay, so you are in Colombia or Mexico or some other Latin country where the men are allowed to be men. It is not fucking paradise: the women gripe about the men just as much as the women in the USA do. It is just there is not a legal system beating the shit out of them like other countries.

I mastered the game in the USA. I had so many women in the USA that they would text me asking to get together every day and I chose who I wanted to fuck. What I learned is that women do not like to think of themselves as hos. If I could set the frame in such a way that a woman could fuck me without feeling like a ho, and she needed money, I had more than enough beautiful women who were great in bed. The problem was getting ones of good character. Honestly, if you cannot make it in the USA as a hot woman and you have to come to a guy like me for money, something is wrong with you. So beautiful women did not imitate me.

How many guys do you know Nounce who did this and mastered the USA? One of my middle of the road SB turned pro and was commanding $500 an hour seven or so years ago and was the hottest thing in town.

The secret with women is the same as with investing in that it is easier said than done. With investing, it is be greedy when others are fearful and fearful when others are greedy. Do you know how many times I have seen investment "pros" say this and get scared and panic sell? It is just easy to say and very hard to do. I have personally met one other person in my life who can do this, who can look at the market and say I am right, and the market is wrong, be right, and wait it out and get a payday. The secret to this is to question yourself and constantly be challenging yourself that you may be wrong.

With women, it is to screen extensively, have a short memory, and to get rid of / limit exposure to the hos. What is a ho really? In this case, it is a woman who brings her pussy to the table and nothing else. A professional is a woman who will allow anyone to pay for her pussy. The wisdom in those two sentences cannot be understated. You can see a guy like Huacho stuck here. He has this black and white, Madonna-ho complex with women and cannot deal with the gray, and it is not just him. Still he got out of the country.

With other guys, they get stuck on their feelings, and you see the same BS lines guys say so they can keep their ego up: The women do not like you; they just like your money. You have to know Spanish; the women really like their novios.

You can debate what percentage of women are crazy or hos. I had a friend say when I was divorced to remember that 60% of women are crazy. I had a cop friend joke, "more like 80% Still, all these guys want ALL the women to like them. I force myself to not care. If I have a woman wanting an excessive amount, I get frustrated but I tell myself to have a short memory. I tell myself with the hos that is all this woman is and to not make them for more than that. How many guys fall off here and let the hos get them down and do not have a short memory? This is the rate limiting step that most guys cannot cross. So many guys cannot date many women and throw out the bad / crazy ones and move onto the next.

But companies hiring do it all the time. If you are a company looking to hire people, you are going to waste time interviewing, spending money on meals, and there is gong to be a lot of back and forth, but you do it to find the productive people, the ones where you can get the win-win. Do the best firms recruit from Hotel Ibis / Motel 6 or do they go to a high end Marriott?

This is where Mr. E falls off, and I have never seen anyone like him. He made it all the way here, but he looks at relationships as win-loss and he is going to win. Thing is the women who are the best are smart enough to not fall for this. You are going to have to spend money and time to get them, and this is why he is so defensive. He wants to think he has it all figured out. He is way better than most, but he does not have the best women.

Now I got to the last stage, and this is where I blew it with the Venezuelan ex. You have to pay consistently. I was too obsessed with the ho-john part and honestly was having my doubts about her as a person, so I am glad that it did not work out. Thing is I knew I could catch a 10 and have her fall in love with me. How many guys have that much confidence? At this point, honestly, I know of only one other person but there is one more step.

I learned that you have to give enough so their needs are met but also enough so they look good. My gal just loaded up on goods in Mexico and brought back those treats to her family. I want her family to see this is a productive relationship. I am paying her for a job, and the job is for her to make me feel good, and I want the same for her. Bringing treats to her family makes her feel good. As fucked up as it sounds in a world of johns and hos, it is a privilege to support a good woman and be exclusive to her. And it is this last step where I am all alone here. I had to get advice from a married friend to go with this last part.

So where are you at Nounce? You left behind the USA. That is something 95+% of men do not do. You went beyond hos, entered the SB market, and have entertained the idea that women might care about you beyond just the cash. Look at how far you have come and how few guys get there.

But do you have the confidence a 10 can fall in love with you? I do not seen that. And do you have the confidence to invest your time, money, and monogamy into that 10? We both know you are not there.

You see that feeling of knowing a 10 can fall in love with you? You cannot buy that. It has to be earned through blood, sweat, tears, and money, and most guys are not willing to pay that price.

You can say you are happy where you are at, and I was happy seeing my sugar babies. I get that, but I have been both places and where I am at now is better. Does that make you feel badly? It does with most guys, and that is why they attack me. That is why they are fucking losers. Are you going to be like that Nounce? You will have a lot of company if you do. It is so much easier to think I am full of shit isn't it?

RamDavidson84

04-19-22, 15:59

You made three mistakes in one sentence. No, you do not capitalize after a semi-colon. Should have written, not should have wrote, and periods go inside quotation marks.

Huh?

Not sure why you put an apostrophe at the end of "your" and you need a semi-colon and not a comma after "attend" because you're linking two independent clauses. You just gave a classic example of a comma splice.

I taught at five universities and only an ostentatious prick would say they educated. And again, you are creating the dreaded "comma splice" by linking two complete sentences, which requires a semi-colon. Never once heard it.Huachoooooooooo Liiiiiiiiibreeeeeeeeee- Como estas Nacho Libre? Yea, you are correct on the grammar, but not on my end. The website often changes the punctuations from what you write and gets posted. Why? I don't know. Either way I apologize for the grammar mistakes, and just like in the "real world", no one gives a fuck about your grammar, there is much greater emphasis placed on your content. And in your original reply, your writing was shit in a post where you goal is to criticize me for my writing. So, mi amigo, don't write like a 4th grader if you are going to be critical of what someone writes. That's my main point. That is the content of my writing.

Hahaha, you taught at five Universities and that is the best writing you can do? That goes back to my original post about how people like you are stealing money from the students who attend your courses. What did you teach? Basket weaving? Native American studies? LOL, those are real useful courses in today's economy. Those students would be better off at Devry Tech getting taught by an ex-con working off a prison term as community service.

And five Universities you say? Hmmmm sounds like someone couldn't get tenure and hired full time. Better luck with number 6 mi amigo, maybe they will have a special program for the Native American basket weavers and they will need your expertise? You never know, keep your head up Padre.

JustTK

04-19-22, 16:26

You made three mistakes in one sentence. No, you do not capitalize after a semi-colon. Should have written, not should have wrote, and periods go inside quotation marks.
Have you guys really not got anythng better to do than criticise each other's punctuation andn grammar. On a forum that runs auto-correct on all posts? Hehe.

As for myself, WTF Jpeado is now threatening me so I better log off. I am so scared, so terribly scared that. That. He might show me his electric train set.

RamDavidson84

04-19-22, 16:46

Have you guys really not got anythng better to do than criticise each other's punctuation andn grammar. On a forum that runs auto-correct on all posts? Hehe.

As for myself, WTF Jpeado is now threatening me so I better log off. I am so scared, so terribly scared that. That. He might show me his electric train set.Haha he started it. I pulled a hamstring Thursday, and I have been stuck home waiting for it to heal fucking around on ISG way too much. I think today I need to go back to the real world though.

Villainy

04-19-22, 18:33

I mastered the game in the USA. I had so many women in the USA that they would text me asking to get together every day and I chose who I wanted to fuck. What I learned is that women do not like to think of themselves as hos. If I could set the frame in such a way that a woman could fuck me without feeling like a ho, and she needed money, I had more than enough beautiful women who were great in bed. The problem was getting ones of good character. Honestly, if you cannot make it in the USA as a hot woman and you have to come to a guy like me for money, something is wrong with you. So beautiful women did not imitate me. How many guys do you know Nounce who did this and mastered the USA? One of my middle of the road SB turned pro and was commanding $500 an hour seven or so years ago and was the hottest thing in town.Oh dear God. What a narcissistic pile of bovine fertilizer.

Now I got to the last stage, and this is where I blew it with the Venezuelan ex. You have to pay consistently. I was too obsessed with the ho-john part and honestly was having my doubts about her as a person, so I am glad that it did not work out. Thing is I knew I could catch a 10 and have her fall in love with me. How many guys have that much confidence? At this point, honestly, I know of only one other person but there is one more step.

I learned that you have to give enough so their needs are met but also enough so they look good. My gal just loaded up on goods in Mexico and brought back those treats to her family. I want her family to see this is a productive relationship. I am paying her for a job, and the job is for her to make me feel good, and I want the same for her. Bringing treats to her family makes her feel good. As fucked up as it sounds in a world of johns and hos, it is a privilege to support a good woman and be exclusive to her. And it is this last step where I am all alone here. I had to get advice from a married friend to go with this last part.You have lost track of one of the basic rules. Don't fall in love with your hooker! Pretty Woman is a movie, Elvis, not a lifestyle.

Tell yourself all you want how much she loves you and how great your relationship is. But the inevitable truth that you can't grasp is that she is in love with your wallet not with you. The minute the money slows down or stops she will disappear like snow in the dessert when the sun comes out.

Mr Enternational

04-19-22, 23:10

You said that you like average women and on a 1 to 10 scale, that is a 5.I said average, not average-looking. An average woman means one that gets her ass up and goes to a job everyday to pay her own bills, not one that sits around all day mooching off someone or looking for someone to mooch off.

JjBee62

04-20-22, 00:50

Oh dear God. What a narcissistic pile of bovine fertilizer.

You have lost track of one of the basic rules. Don't fall in love with your hooker! Pretty Woman is a movie, Elvis, not a lifestyle.

Tell yourself all you want how much she loves you and how great your relationship is. But the inevitable truth that you can't grasp is that she is in love with your wallet not with you. The minute the money slows down or stops she will disappear like snow in the dessert when the sun comes out.Shhh. It's more fun to watch the meltdown when the woman he's certain is giving her everything to him, moves on to someone else. The last time he was crying about it for 6 months.

The really bizarre part is how nobody else has ever figured out how to give money to women in order to get them to fuck. Wasn't that covered in Leviticus?

Then there's the self-burn: there's something wrong with an attractive woman who has to settle for him as a sugar daddy.

Plus the Mr Obvious award: "women do not like to think of themselves as hos. " That epiphany probably knocked him off his feet. It's like suddenly realizing "people don't like to step in dog shit" and calling a press conference to announce that giant leap forward in the understanding of man.

Plus he mastered the USA, by paying lots of women to have sex. Imagine that. Instead of just paying a woman to have sex when you want to have sex, paying a bunch of women to not have sex with you, except when you want to have sex.

I don't want to forget the bit about finding women who will let you pay them for sex, who are of good character. Except, women who are willing to let him pay them for sex have something wrong with them. That's a pretty fine line to walk. "We're looking for someone who's willing to embezzle from the company, who is also trustworthy."

The hits keep coming too. One of his incognito hookers, moved up to charging $500 per hour. Shit, the woman I was fucking for free (free as in I just had to show up, take her to dinner and tell her how beautiful she was) in 2001, first moved up to be a featured dancer at Cabaret Royale in Dallas, when it was the premier strip club in Texas. Then she moved up to driving a new Audi and living in a very nice apartment paid for by her sugar daddy (not me) who she loved completely, but was fucking 4 or 5 other guys on the side (including me). I'd bought us both cell phones, activated them at the same time and we had consecutive numbers. It was when I got a few drunk wrong number calls that I found out only one of us was in an exclusive relationship. So I took the phone away and spent the next week explaining to all her Johns that they would have to find another way to set up their dates (I wasn't too happy to learn I had gone from #1 to barely in the lineup). The perils of thinking that getting pussy equals earning love.

And yet another epiphany: you have to pay them consistently. Really? How long did it take to figure that bit out? Every employer in the world knows, if you don't pay your employees consistently, they'll find new jobs.

More strangeness, paying a 10 for sex and having her fall in love with you. Right after "you have to pay consistently", if you pay consistently they'll fall in love with you. Yep. Right up to the point when you miss a payment.

The final step is the best part. You have to pay enough so that the whole family gets paid too. That way, if she starts to realize there has to be something wrong with her to be letting him pay her for sex, her family will pressure her to keep faking the orgasms until she can hook another sucker.

https://youtu.be/M6fSmwHFsjQ

Elvis 2008

04-20-22, 06:29

The hits keep coming too. One of his incognito hookers, moved up to charging $500 per hour. Shit, the woman I was fucking for free (free as in I just had to show up, take her to dinner and tell her how beautiful she was) in 2001, first moved up to be a featured dancer at Cabaret Royale in Dallas, when it was the premier strip club in Texas. Then she moved up to driving a new Audi and living in a very nice apartment paid for by her sugar daddy (not me) who she loved completely, but was fucking 4 or 5 other guys on the side (including me). I'd bought us both cell phones, activated them at the same time and we had consecutive numbers. It was when I got a few drunk wrong number calls that I found out only one of us was in an exclusive relationship. So I took the phone away and spent the next week explaining to all her Johns that they would have to find another way to set up their dates (I wasn't too happy to learn I had gone from #1 to barely in the lineup). The perils of thinking that getting pussy equals earning loveOh, you couldn't wait to brag about that. You had a stripper as a GF? Every guy I ever met who was a stripper BF was a pathetic loser who the stripper took on just to have someone around who was more pathetic than they were. So you are the guy who would call me after the "GF" gave me head in the club and chastised me and said, "She does not do that anymore. " LOL.

You forgot to mention how it ended. She changed her ways, found God, and you had little ones together? LOL. Or did she go right back to fucking other men again? The suspense is killing me. You called the men and explained she was your GF instead of dumping her? LOL. And you think that story makes you look good? Man, I am dying here.

Paying a 10 for sex and having her fall in love with you. Right after "you have to pay consistently", if you pay consistently they'll fall in love with you. Yep. Right up to the point when you miss a payment.Sorry, that is not how it worked, and I think my paying strippers for sex was less than you paid. I wasn't polishing stripper heels, getting cum and cocaine stains out of her clothes, having to set up IV caffeine when she got home, and scrubbing her in the bathtub to get her glitter free for the probation officer.

What did I just say? If you are paying one woman for sex, she is a ho, but she is your ho, and this even applies to marriages. You were fucking a professional, a woman who was taking money from multiple guys for sex. You think she is not a pro because you were not paying her at least with money? OMG.

What bugged me with my woman was that paying for her technically met the definition and made her a ho, and I had a hard time with that. I asked my guy friends what to do and they all said I should support her, but you have not seen her in real life or pics or how she is. She is more supportive of me that my ex-wife was when we were first married, and that means literally doing everything I ask and even things I do not ask her to do.

So I must have missed the part in Pretty Woman where Julia Roberts washes Richard Gere's underwear like I am sure your stripper GF did for you.

Nounce

04-20-22, 06:56

...You can say you are happy where you are at, and I was happy seeing my sugar babies. I get that, but I have been both places and where I am at now is better. Does that make you feel badly? I am pumped! Are you a motivational speaker?

It is like I have been having steaks at all these great places that I thought were 100. Are you telling me what I had were more like 70. In order to get to your level, I have to invest in a restaurant and only eat in this restaurant and the steak will taste even better the next time?

JjBee62

04-20-22, 09:11

I am pumped! Are you a motivational speaker?

It is like I have been having steaks at all these great places that I thought were 100. Are you telling me what I had were more like 70. In order to get to your level, I have to invest in a restaurant and only eat in this restaurant and the steak will taste even better the next time?LOL! I almost choked when I read that.

JjBee62

04-20-22, 10:45

By not quoting or linking your post. That post was like a prolapsed rectum. Other than a qualified health professional, you shouldn't let anyone see that. I'm sure it sounded better when it went through your mind.

There are a few things you said worth pointing out.

1. You have to pay consistently.

2. You have to pay more than needed.

3. Winning the love of the girl the first 2 points apply to.

I love my job. There are days when I'm not shitting butterflies and rainbows, but mostly it's fantastic. It's fantastic for 2 reasons.

1. They pay me consistently.

2. They pay me more than needed.

If the first item changes, I'm gone, because the reason I'm there is to get paid. If they were just paying what I could earn somewhere else, I might stay, but I'm going to be smiling and flirting with anyone who will pay me more.

You keep talking about love, but when you made those 2 points, you showed that you understand the glue that keeps it together is made from money.

Whether or not she loves you, or you love her is irrelevant. When you stop paying she stops playing. In essence you're doing the same thing my boss has done. You're paying more than she is going to get from anyone else.

Unfortunately for you, you're dealing with the inconsistencies of youth. My boss knows, with what he's paying me, at my age, he can expect me to be there until I retire. However, you're betting on a young Colombian woman to not make a bad decision. She's already got a history of bad decisions that call you papa.

It gets worse. Assuming you're not spending all your time with the love of your life, she's got money to spare and plenty of free time. That means every broke Colombian within 10 miles is going to be flexing at her. But I'm sure she's different.

Believe it or not, I'm not writing this to ridicule you, no matter how much you've earned it. This is just a dose of reality that you'll either ignore, give a crazy response to.

To close I want to point out that there's no way to compare the enjoyment different people are getting from sex. It's entirely subjective. When you go on about having better sex than someone else, it just clarifies the narcissism.

Face it. When Nounce starts making fun of you, you're completely off the deep end.

JustTK

04-20-22, 14:24

Villainy

04-20-22, 17:54

I heard at the very start 2 years ago that there were no RCTs to support the use of masks during the pandemic, and therefore there was no science. All RCTs to date showed the had no effect. It was just a tool that governments were using to pretned they knew what they were doing and to reassure and pacify the public.

Well, it looks like we now have the data to support the view that masks do indeed do f*k all to prevent the spread of CV. Here it is:.You know what is really cray-cray? People who think that watching the Jimmy Dore Show will be a good source of information about whether wearing masks is effective in protecting yourself and / or others against the spread of the virus. He starts out your video saying that the N95 mask is 95% effective in protecting you and if you and the other person are wearing surgical masks you are still 91% protected. But I guess that isn't the part you want to focus on. Then he pulls in charts from various sources of completely unknown reliability. From those charts (who were the originators? Was Elvis one of them?) you want to draw profound conclusions. But the reality is that those conclusions were what you wanted to support in the first place.

Why don't you look at legitimate scientific analysis? I know, I know. It's because they don't reach the conclusions you want to read and spread around. Here are just a few that I found in about 1 minute. Oddly enough none of them encompass the views of talk-show hosts or pocasters or random crackpots.

https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2014564118

https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2021/09/surgical-masks-covid-19.html

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/masking-science-sars-cov2.html

And what do these sources tell us? Wearing masks is effective in protecting you against the virus. Omicron is more contagious and the air-borne particles are smaller and therefore more transmissible but even so, masks offer protection.

Mtndew704

04-20-22, 18:24

JjBee62

04-20-22, 21:26

Oh, you couldn't wait to brag about that. You had a stripper as a GF? Every guy I ever met who was a stripper BF was a pathetic loser who the stripper took on just to have someone around who was more pathetic than they were. So you are the guy who would call me after the "GF" gave me head in the club and chastised me and said, "She does not do that anymore. " LOL.

You forgot to mention how it ended. She changed her ways, found God, and you had little ones together? LOL. Or did she go right back to fucking other men again? The suspense is killing me. You called the men and explained she was your GF instead of dumping her? LOL. And you think that story makes you look good? Man, I am dying here.

Sorry, that is not how it worked, and I think my paying strippers for sex was less than you paid. I wasn't polishing stripper heels, getting cum and cocaine stains out of her clothes, having to set up IV caffeine when she got home, and scrubbing her in the bathtub to get her glitter free for the probation officer..It's good to see you're still incapable of understanding anything you read. The sequence of events was clearly stated, along with the conclusion. In deference to the flat line which represents your brain activity I'll clarify it, so that any child could understand, but it won't help you.

1. I met a girl. We began dating and she started living and traveling with me. At the time she was unemployed and had never worked as a stripper, at least as far as I knew.

2. Through her mother who was manager of all the Guitars and Cadillacs stores in Texas, she got a job managing a new store that was opening at The Galeria in Dallas. The company put her up in a hotel.

3. I had to work, so just saw her when I was in Dallas. For Christmas I got us both cell phones. At that point, other than gifts and dinners when I visited, I spent nothing on her, and got a free hotel room when in town.

4. Unknown to me she took a second job as a waitress at Cabaret Royale. Shortly after, I started getting a lot of wrong number calls and figured out what was going on. It wasn't difficult. I called back when I got a hangup and left a message that I knew would get the guy to call back.

5. I took a trip to Dallas, confronted her, took the phone back and said goodbye, then went home. I kept the phone for another month and returned messages explaining that she was now my ex and they would have to contact her some other way.

6. She went from waitress to dancer and quit her day job. She also acquired a sugar daddy. He bought her a new car and put her in an apartment. Then she got drunk, had a Long Island Lolita moment with her Joey Buttafuoco in front of his wife, totaled the Audi and ended up in ICU. All of that information came from her best friend after the accident.

That's it. I bumped into her once more at a party in Columbus, Ohio. We were both shocked to see each other there. She left, I stayed. She reached out several months later, but I wasn't interested.

So all your bizarre fantasies are for naught. I was never a stripper boyfriend. I've bedded a lot of strippers, but no relationships. Most of the ones I had sex with ended up paying me.

I was a mover, owned my own truck. When a stripper needed to move, she called me. Probably moved a dozen strippers over a 2 year period and they all paid cash. Well, except for one. I was moving 2 strippers that lived together. I gave them a price, which I was losing money on and only one of them paid me. However, she paid me double what I charged, so I came out ahead. The other one decided to pay me in bed.

I profited in other ways. I had a nice house that was almost always empty, since I spent most of my time on the road. So I rented a spare room to a stripper, 4 different strippers. It was a savings for them, plus nicer than they could afford, and I had someone to take care of things while I was gone. As a bonus, I came home to a stripper who rarely wore anything more than panties.

I also did a bit of photography and html work for a few strippers. The money was never a huge amount, but it mostly paid me back for what I spent in the strip clubs.

That was a swing and a miss. Not only a miss, but in typical Elvis fashion, you showed up with a hockey stick when we're playing basketball, and everything is going over your head.

Villainy mentioned Pretty Woman, not me. And, in the movie, Richard Gere didn't play a fat, balding narcissist. Plus, as was covered before, and now a second time, I didn't have a stripper girlfriend. I had an ex who became a stripper.

I hope I have the time to thoroughly enjoy your next installment of "Pay Regularly and Pay Excessively", the definitive work on paying hookers to pretend they aren't hookers.

JjBee62

04-20-22, 21:49

I heard at the very start 2 years ago that there were no RCTs to support the use of masks during the pandemic, and therefore there was no science. All RCTs to date showed the had no effect. It was just a tool that governments were using to pretned they knew what they were doing and to reassure and pacify the public.

Well, it looks like we now have the data to support the view that masks do indeed do f*k all to prevent the spread of CV. Here it is:.Ah yes. The prestigious YouTube Journal of medicine, which has brought us so much "truth."

For example, without the tireless work of YouTube researchers, we wouldn't know about talking cats:

https://youtu.be/cPb2mHkFwws

And we wouldn't know that pigs can fly:

https://youtu.be/RRB-mxrbUiI

Yes, truly the most excellent of all scientific journals is YouTube.

Now I admit, I didn't watch the entire 12:49 video. What would be the point of spending 13 minutes, with the ads, watching someone with no credentials, fail to understand basic math? Perhaps there was some big reveal that I missed. I guess I'll have to wait until it makes a splash in the real scientific journals.

I went back and tried to watch it, but there's no usable content. Perhaps if I had the reasoning ability of a small child, with a learning disability, it would seem profound, but it's just a couple of idiots, pandering to idiots, hoping to get enough views to earn some money from their idiocy.

And it looks like they found the perfect viewer.

Elvis 2008

04-20-22, 22:43

You're paying more than she is going to get from anyone else.LOL. I must have missed that part. What I have given her is the exact amount she was getting offered to be paid by someone else for her time and what she asked for was in line with what Colombian salaries are.

If you are saying I am paying more than anyone else for sex, something she would have an issue with your saying about her, she would point to her friend in Mexico City whose boyfriend owns a jet, and I think my girl is prettier than her but her friend is smoking hot too. So she has an example of someone in her social circle of giving her more than I have.

And yet if you asked the guys here if they agreed with you about your statement, almost if not all would. Maybe you do not get that a popular answer and a correct one are the same. Have you asked her if what I am giving her is more than what anyone else has offered? But you know right? LOL.

Face it. When Nounce starts making fun of you, you're completely off the deep end.LOL. Nounce's comment was just as arrogant as Mr. E's was. It is another how dare you tell me that I am not getting the best.

Do you think that women know if a guy is seeing other women? I do. Do you think that they hold part of themselves back if they know that you are seeing other women? I do. So in order to get the best out of a woman and have the best sex, you have to be loyal and see just her. You can disagree with this, but you would be wrong.

I am not saying I have the best steakhouse. What I am saying is this is the best one I have been to, one so good I do not need or want to go anywhere else. And that is how I know it is the best or at least the best I can get.

Maybe someone can have a better one than me, but you are not going to get there unless you commit totally to one steakhouse. Sorry. Now are you going to get the steak if you do not pay? Fuck no. That is another stupid comment. The best steakhouse has to provide value though and not rip you off though.

Your comment about the stripper was ridiculous as were Mr. E's comments and Nounce's. You completely missed the point. What would it take for a steakhouse to be so good so you would only eat there?

All three of you dummies had the same response. We are already eating at the best. Why you guys are dummies though is that I have eaten at all the places you have, and I am saying what I have is better. In fact, it is so good I do not want to eat anywhere else.

So how do you get to the best steakhouse? You have to think you are worthy to be there. You have to pay fair value, and you have to be open to and willing to commit if the steak is exceptional.

It is that last part where all three of you fail. That last point is so foreign to you that you cannot even visualize what I am talking about, so we will just stop the discussion right here. You all are obviously too arrogant and pig headed to have any fucking clue what I am talking about.

Mr Enternational

04-21-22, 02:54

It is another how dare you tell me that I am not getting the best.

Do you think that women know if a guy is seeing other women? I do. Do you think that they hold part of themselves back if they know that you are seeing other women? I do. So in order to get the best out of a woman and have the best sex, you have to be loyal and see just her. You can disagree with this, but you would be wrong.How could anyone be wrong when you are talking like a woman. What does this best mean? Every restaurant writes on their advertisement "Best," because best does not mean a damn thing. It is subjective. So until you start adding qualifiers saying that she is the best because she wears a size 9 shoe, she is the best because her hair has highlights, she is the best because she makes me hot dogs and french fries on Wednesday nights, you are not saying a damn thing by saying she is the best.

And what is this hold part of themselves back thing you are talking about. Just like women you are speaking abstractly and talking in circles. Maybe if you said when women know you are not seeing anyone else they will give you two extra oohs and three extra ahhhs, that would mean something that someone could imagine or put their finger on. But simply saying holding themselves back, or giving more of themselves, it does not mean a damn thing and as far as I am concerned you are getting the worst, not the best; and this includes sex as well. No best nothing for you, because you have not defined what best is. So it is a good thing that you are happy with the worst girl and the worst sex from that worst girl, because that is exactly what you are getting.

Huacho

04-21-22, 05:02

JjBee62

04-21-22, 06:11

LOL. I must have missed that part. What I have given her is the exact amount she was getting offered to be paid by someone else for her time and what she asked for was in line with what Colombian salaries are.

If you are saying I am paying more than anyone else for sex, something she would have an issue with your saying about her, she would point to her friend in Mexico City whose boyfriend owns a jet, and I think my girl is prettier than her but her friend is smoking hot too. So she has an example of someone in her social circle of giving her more than I have.

And yet if you asked the guys here if they agreed with you about your statement, almost if not all would. Maybe you do not get that a popular answer and a correct one are the same. Have you asked her if what I am giving her is more than what anyone else has offered? But you know right? LOL.

LOL. Nounce's comment was just as arrogant as Mr. E's was. It is another how dare you tell me that I am not getting the best..Wait, wait, wait.

Without having a clue who any of us have been with, for me, that's over a more than 40 year span, I have no idea about Nounce and MrE, you've declared that you're having better sex than any of us have ever had, or ever will have, and we're the ones who are arrogant?

And you still can't grasp the meaning of a simple sentence, although it's exactly in line with what I expect from you.

I didn't say you're paying more than anyone else for sex. In what twisted psychotic break did you get that? I merely repeated what you said.

1. You have to pay consistently.

2. You have to pay more than is necessary.

I don't give a damn how much you're paying. Long before you came here crying that you paid to move a hooker and her family from Venezuela to Peru and then she dumped you, I was telling people, right here on ISG:

"Your money, your dick, your business."

All anyone is pointing out to you is the exact fucking thing you keep saying and then claiming it isn't true:

If you stop paying her, she stops fucking you. Period. End of sentence.

You've said it 20 fucking times, then you babble about earning monogamy, better sex than others, giving everything. You sound like Gwyneth Paltrow channeling the spirit of Liberace.

Just for the record, and I'll try to keep it as simple as possible, because you're a complete idiot, there's nothing that the certified most incredible steakhouse in any universe can do to get me to commit to only eating there.

The reason is simple:

I don't always want steak. I've done that, metaphorically and literally. I want variety, in all things. I've done the whole commit totally, give everything to one woman thing and it was fantastic, for awhile. Then it was great, for awhile. Eventually it was tedious.

Kind of like you.

Elvis 2008

04-21-22, 14:36

4. Unknown to me she took a second job as a waitress at Cabaret Royale. Shortly after, I started getting a lot of wrong number calls and figured out what was going on. It wasn't difficult. I called back when I got a hangup and left a message that I knew would get the guy to call back.

5. I took a trip to Dallas, confronted her, took the phone back and said goodbye, then went home. I kept the phone for another month and returned messages explaining that she was now my ex and they would have to contact her some other way.

6. She went from waitress to dancer and quit her day job. She also acquired a sugar daddy. He bought her a new car and put her in an apartment. Then she got drunk, had a Long Island Lolita moment with her Joey Buttafuoco in front of his wife, totaled the Audi and ended up in ICU. All of that information came from her best friend after the accident...Uh yeah, that is funny how the story changed so much. It is just more of how full of shit you are and this fat, balding "narcissist" line tells me I got under your skin.

Your stories do not line up. First, you called all your GF's johns (not sugar daddies) and told them to quit bugging her. Now you broke up with her. I am going to go with version one there.

She went from being unemployed to a waitress to a dancer to a ho. Yeah, I would probably do that too if I had to hang around you. And the moral of your story is you were fucking a girl for free? Given her history, being such a cheap skate that your GF that had to ho herself out is not something I would brag about.

Seeing arrangement started in 2008. The phrase sugar daddy was not used that much in 2001. Dallas was a hot bed of hos back then though starting with the infamous Diana of Dallas. The women were fine and could be had for $200 to $300 an hour at the very top end.

Cabaret Royale was not tops in Dallas back then. It was maybe top half. The Lodge, Men's Club, Baby Dolls, and Fantasy Ranch were the top clubs. CR had its hey day years prior to 2001, and all four of those clubs had better women then CR.

The women routinely pulled in huge $ prior to the 2000 NASDAQ bubble going burst. In 2000, the best women were making $2,0000+ just dancing and did not have to ho themselves out like your gal did.

And there were no feature dancers at CR.

So now that you have revised your story it looks even worse. You had a GF become a ho right before your eyes because you could not support her.

Oh right. You are trying to compete. I was banging the 9's and 10's at those clubs back then and the hos in Texas at that time were gorgeous. If the hos continued to look that good in Texas from 2000 to 2010, I would have never went abroad.

Top girl at CR back then would have been an 8. Average girl there would have been a 7, and that is probably what your girl was, a 7. So here we go again. You are turning your 7 into a 10.

And I was married then. A few years later, after the divorce, I too was banging strippers without paying them so your antic about how you did not pay them and I did does not work either.

So why bring this up and make the personal attack? Because you are a lazy, underachieving, bullshit artist who feels inferior to me and what I had and have, and you are mistaking popularity for being right.

And are you trying to equate this with what I have now? Are you out of your fucking mind?

My intent was not to sit on the top of the mountain and laugh at you all but maybe I should have so let's get this straight. I fucked all the best hos in Dallas over that 10 year period, and I banged a slew of 9's and 10's from the top club. Don't worry though. I did not descend into CR. I had my standards.

I have been to the boates in Sao Paulo, the termas in Rio, was in Argentina during its hey day at Black's and Madaho's and what I have now is miles better than all that. I saw what was in Thailand (did not partake. All the women looked like 14 year olds to me and I was really married then). I had sugar babies from 2009 on that guys would suck in their breath at and say "Ooooh".

But when I found the best ever, I eventually committed to it and it got even better. Maybe if you find the best of the best, you might duplicate what I have done or maybe not. Like I said, you are the type that makes a 7 into a 10, and I do not see that changing.

JjBee62

04-21-22, 15:50

"So in order to get the best out of a woman and have the best sex, you have to be loyal and see just her."

Then why post on a hooker board, especially when your conclusion is incorrect based on majority experience? Because you are just seeing her and she is seeing anyone with money?

But you do stimulate a discussion about what is the best you can get out of a woman. I will go first. She comes over, a bit of food and beverage, some chat. Then sex, maybe more food, maybe more sex, then she leaves. Then you can fuck someone else and so can she. Lather, rinse, repeat. But I don't weigh three bills.I've found that the best sex comes from bipolar women, but you have to catch them at the right time. The downside is, when that switch flips you're left dealing with all the bad stuff.

Certifiable nymphomaniacs (not just someone who really loves sex) are fun, but exhausting. Not much of a conquest though, since they will accept just about any offer from anyone.

Women with a fetish which is acceptable to you, can be great. Spent 3 days of almost continuous sex with a girl in Richardson, TX who would do anything and go nuts, as long as I paid attention to her feet.

I think the absolute best was one who was bipolar, bisexual and enjoyed group sex and public sex.

Mr Enternational

04-21-22, 18:30

Seeing arrangement started in 2008. The phrase sugar daddy was not used that much in 2001.Yes it was used much. Maybe in 2001 and before, you were just not in the circles that it was used in.

LuvMexicanas

04-21-22, 19:44

Then why post on a hooker board, especially when your conclusion is incorrect based on majority experience?Such a simple question but of course he'll reply with a multi paragraph response that doesn't answer the question.

JjBee62

04-21-22, 21:43

Uh yeah, that is funny how the story changed so much. It is just more of how full of shit you are and this fat, balding "narcissist" line tells me I got under your skin.

Your stories do not line up. First, you called all your GF's johns (not sugar daddies) and told them to quit bugging her. Now you broke up with her. I am going to go with version one there.

She went from being unemployed to a waitress to a dancer to a ho. Yeah, I would probably do that too if I had to hang around you. And the moral of your story is you were fucking a girl for free? Given her history, being such a cheap skate that your GF that had to ho herself out is not something I would brag about.

Seeing arrangement started in 2008. The phrase sugar daddy was not used that much in 2001. Dallas was a hot bed of hos back then though starting with the infamous Diana of Dallas. The women were fine and could be had for $200 to $300 an hour at the very top end.

Cabaret Royale was not tops in Dallas back then. It was maybe top half. The Lodge, Men's Club, Baby Dolls, and Fantasy Ranch were the top clubs. CR had its hey day years prior to 2001, and all four of those clubs had better women then CR.

The women routinely pulled in huge $ prior to the 2000 NASDAQ bubble going burst. In 2000, the best women were making $2,0000+ just dancing and did not have to ho themselves out like your gal did.

And there were no feature dancers at CR.

So now that you have revised your story it looks even worse. You had a GF become a ho right before your eyes because you could not support her.

Oh right. You are trying to compete. I was banging the 9's and 10's at those clubs back then and the hos in Texas at that time were gorgeous. If the hos continued to look that good in Texas from 2000 to 2010, I would have never went abroad.

Top girl at CR back then would have been an 8. Average girl there would have been a 7, and that is probably what your girl was, a 7. So here we go again. You are turning your 7 into a 10.

And I was married then. A few years later, after the divorce, I too was banging strippers without paying them so your antic about how you did not pay them and I did does not work either.

So why bring this up and make the personal attack? Because you are a lazy, underachieving, bullshit artist who feels inferior to me and what I had and have, and you are mistaking popularity for being right..If the drugs I experimented with 40+ years ago had been as good at altering reality as whatever is running through your veins, I'd have become an addict. It's every single thing. It's written, clear, obvious and straightforward, but once it enters into whatever substitute you're using for a brain, it comes out completely unrecognizable. If I wrote that my vacation starts on Tuesday, then repeated that my vacation starts on Tuesday, you'd come out and say that I said I was taking 3 months off for physical therapy and that it began 3 Sundays ago.

Seriously. Seek help.

I'll try to work my way through your psychosis one point at a time. I know it's useless, every word has to run through your insanity and never comes out the same.

1. My story didn't change. I added details, but they all correlate with the original mention.

2. I never referred to the additional guys who had her number as either John's or sugar daddies and didn't call them to tell them to quit bugging her. Whoever called and left a message, I returned the call, left a message telling them she no longer had the phone and I was not able to forward their message. In one case, I answered a call and told the guy the same thing. The only person I might have referred to as "sugar daddy" is the one who was keeping her as a sugar baby.

3. There was never a version where I called guys and told them to quit bugging her. I've got $1,000 if you can show me I ever so much as insinuated such a thing. When I realized it was over, I told her so and walked away. I wasn't happy about it at the time, but I quickly moved on.

4. The moral of the story was that having a girl you used to support turn into an escort doesn't qualify you for a Presidential Medal of Freedom.

5. Being a cheap skate? I wish you people would make up your mind. First I'm getting blasted because I take women out to dinner and now I'm a cheap skate? This is all going to be a mystery to you, because you've probably never been with a woman who you didn't buy. I didn't get into a relationship with her, or anyone else, in order to support her. She decided to take the job in Dallas. At that point, her decision, she was no longer living with me and supporting her was not my obligation. Perhaps you see things differently. Once a woman decides to move on, I'm not wasting money trying to get her to come back. I'm moving on. Then again, I've never had to pay a woman's family in order to get her in bed.

6. The phrase sugar daddy has been around for 100 years. The Bellamy Brothers recorded "Sugar Daddy" in 1980. It begins "What you need is a sugar daddy, diamond rings and a brand new Caddy. " Laurel and Hardy starred in "Sugar Daddies" in 1927. As with so many other things, you haven't a fucking clue. I'm not surprised.

7. To be honest, I didn't spend my time in the late 90's and early 2000's keeping a day to day ranking of Dallas strip clubs and it doesn't matter to me. CR was one of the top clubs in Dallas and if you say the dancers there were 7's, it means nothing.

8. Except for the guy who bought the car and paid for the apartment, I never said that the other guys who had her number were paying her. I wouldn't know if they were, and I doubt it. She decided to gravitate towards being a SB. I had no interest in that. She found someone who did. I assume the others were either potential SDs or just guys she wanted to get tipped by at the club.

9. I don't pretend to understand everything every woman does. If a woman is making good money and decides to chase after more money, I don't try to make sense of it.

10. I don't feel inferior to you and what you have, because I have no idea who you are, or what you have. Even if I knew, I wouldn't care. I'm not you. I don't want to be you. I most certainly don't want to give a woman money so she and I can both pretend we're in love. However, I'll have some time in Medellin from May 1-9. Bring yourself and your best girl in the world. I'll post a day before where I will be (a safe, decent, public place) and you can come and convince me about how perfect everything is. I'll even sweeten the deal, $500 if you show. Of course, Bigfoot is more likely to show than you are.

11. Amongst all your other insanity, you keep talking about what you believe other people are doing, feeling, experiencing and getting. Care to explain? If I sit down at a table with someone I can see what they're eating. If I taste it, I can decide whether I think it tastes good. However, there's absolutely no way for me to know how it tastes to them. They can tell me and I still don't know. But you take it much farther. You talk about a restaurant you've never been to, one which you don't even know what's on the menu and you tell the customers who you know nothing about, that they aren't enjoying what's on their plate, without knowing what the fuck they ordered.

12. It's all just words. Always the best. Right? I have no interest in "best. " I've never had interest in "best. " Because "best" is just a subjective evaluation and once you've decided that you've achieved it, it's all downhill. I focus on the moment. If the moment is good, I'm happy. If the moment isn't good, I'm happy, because it will get better.

I've said it many times, and I'll probably keep saying it:

Get yourself into treatment.

JjBee62

04-21-22, 21:47

Yes it was used much. Maybe in 2001 and before, you were just not in the circles that it was used in.Shit, we were making jokes about "sugar daddy" when I was 10.

https://www.reporterherald.com/ci_22623737/sugar-daddy-has-sweet-history

Nounce

04-22-22, 01:45

...Face it. When Nounce starts making fun of you, you're completely off the deep end.It sounds that way because that is what I think Elvis is saying but maybe I don't understand it. I do appreciate that Elvis takes the time to reply and he seems genuinely trying to share.

Huacho

04-22-22, 02:35

I think a lot of us prefer to fuck hookers because it's just a lot less trouble. Women are a pain in the ass. But if you're heterosexual, you still want them. So a lot of us have come around to the idea that mongering is more efficient, more cost effective, and more sexually satisfying as opposed to 'having a girlfriend. ' But for those of us who actually like women, we've found a lot of alternatives to these greedy sugar babies. Seeing the same hookers regularly is an alternative, if you know how to pick and treat hookers. You still need to know the difference between a girl friend and a hooker. Don't go looking for a hooker when you really want a girl friend, and don't go looking for a girl friend when you really want a hooker. Guys like Elvis want a girl friend but don't have the wherewithal to bring it off. So, they find a hooker and anoint her as their girl friend. That will work until it doesn't.

Elvis 2008

04-22-22, 03:44

It sounds that way because that is what I think Elvis is saying but maybe I don't understand it. I do appreciate that Elvis takes the time to reply and he seems genuinely trying to share.Okay one more time. You go to a steakhouse and it is one of the best you have ever been to. You go back and it is just as good. It is the best of the best. Is it easy to find a steak house this good? Hell no.

But how do you go one step further than the best of the best? You say to the restaurant I am going to quit going to all the other steakhouses and only support you and in exchange for this commitment: I expect you to go up a notch higher. Can you do that? And the restaurant says yes, and they do exactly that. Now, you have reached the pinnacle of steak houses. You are getting the best service at the best of the best. Is there better? Probably. But is this about the best you can get? Well, it is so fucking good that going to any other steak house would likely be a disappointment.

So when you all are telling me of the great steakhouses you have eaten at, my question to you is did you commit to it? If not, then do not tell me it is all that great. Okay, maybe it is 90 out of 100. My point is what gets you to 100 is commitment.

Can you say that a steakhouse that is a 50 and in demand can be 90? Hell no.

Can you pretend that a 70 is just as good as a 90? Hell no.

Can you say if the restaurant really liked me they would do it without pay? Hell no.

Can you get to a 100 by saying, "Well, you are pretty good but I want to keep my options open and keep eating steak at other places?" Sure you can do that, but if you really are eating at the best of the best, the chances of getting better are pretty slim.

You have to do the work and find the best steakhouses. You have to get the staff to like you, accept your proposal, and you cannot go anywhere else. You have to be loyal to the one place.

So with women, you have to find the best of the best. You have to get her to like you. You have to propose commitment, have that proposal accepted, and you have to be loyal to her to get the best sex out of the best of the best.

And it is not easy doing this. There are so many ways it can fail. All I am saying is this is what you have to do to have the best sex. That is what I have learned. If you are content eating at steakhouses that are 50 or 70 or 90, that is fine. Maybe you want variety. All I wanted people to say was that was interesting and I will keep it in mind. It is not like the best of the best is on every street corner. It is a lot of blood, sweat, tears, time, and money to get here and maybe it is not worth it for some people to shoot this high.

Anyone who questions me on this topic I will ask this: if your woman is so fucking great, why can you not commit to her? If she truly is the best of the best, you should commit to her if you want to get to the next stage. If she is the best of the best, how likely is it that you are going to really find better? Realistically, the only way to do better is going deeper with the best of the best.

If I were truly a narcissist, Nounce, I would say that neither you or anyone else could get where I am but I do not believe that. I have met guys here who are pretty close to this level.

If your mind set is I could never be happy with just one woman, then you will never find her. One of the biggest things I had going for me was people in my life who really believed that if I found the right woman, the best of the best, I could be faithful to her. I get it. You think I am just as crazy as I thought they were.

Now do you get it?

Osteoknot

04-22-22, 05:28

It sounds that way because that is what I think Elvis is saying but maybe I don't understand it. I do appreciate that Elvis takes the time to reply and he seems genuinely trying to share.I don't how you do it, so consistently.

I have two simple criteria needed to hold my attention and especially for friends. Not saying the goal here is friendship or that anyone here wants me as a friend, but the criteria still apply. Once we weed out the child molesters and the serial killers, I really don't care how aberrant a person's personality is, how off-kilter or ass-holier-than-thou they are as long as they are not faking the funk. As long as they are true to themselves. That's criterion 1 of 2 and most people here have no problem with that. They believe what they believe and they stand up for it, no matter how delusional their belief system. No problem there.

But the second criterion. Don't be boring. That's where most mongerers and people fall apart for me. The same ol same ol same ol tapes being rewound and played over and over and over. Bored to tears.

All my friends pass both criteria. I am not concerned so much with the morality bullshit, the friendliness, the niceness, the beauty, the money, even lack of honesty is not as big a problem as most people make of it, as long as you take the necessary steps to protect yourself. That is the bullshit that most people focus on and why sometimes I am perceived as being too gullible, it's really because I don't care if you are an upstanding citizen or not as long as you don't bore me. In fact, I am more suspicious and keep my guard up more around people who seem determined to convince me what outstanding examples they are of the human variety bean. Be true to yourself and don't be boring has worked for my selection process for more than a generation with only mild and occasional collateral damage.

Mr Enternational

04-22-22, 14:31

Seeing the same hookers regularly is an alternative, if you know how to pick and treat hookers. You still need to know the difference between a girl friend and a hooker. Don't go looking for a hooker when you really want a girl friend, and don't go looking for a girl friend when you really want a hooker. Guys like Elvis want a girl friend but don't have the wherewithal to bring it off. So, they find a hooker and anoint her as their girl friend. That will work until it doesn't.Exactly. I have said it time and time again when guys are looking for certain criteria in this site. Why not just get a normal girlfriend instead of someone to pay? It is that movie Brooklyn's Finest all over again, where the cop (played by Richard Gere) was exclusive to the same hooker for years, a bit like Elvis. He finally retires and has it in his mind that he is going to settle down with his "girlfriend." When he came to her with the idea she said mf I am a hooker, not your damn girlfriend. For years he had been deluding himself and she had played along with it like they were roleplaying or that was his "thing". If you have to pay her, she is not your girlfriend.

Chicago85

04-22-22, 16:28

This reminds me of a trip I had with two Australians back in 2007. I was backpacking prior to grad school and met these two tough Australian blokes from Kalgoorlie in Phuket, Thailand on a scuba diving trip. Kalgoorlie is a massive gold mine where Australian guys will work for 6+ months, make big bucks, then F-off to Asia to spend it since there are no women there. So we're out one afternoon and meet two gorgeous Russian girls. We hang out for a bit and as it gets into evening I split off as I'm the fifth wheel and Angus and Rob look like they're making good progress. About 2 am I get a knock on my door from Angus (yes, his name was about as Australian as it gets). He's frantic, watery-eyed, and jabbering that 'it never told him,' 'he was drunk,' 'blue balls,' etc. Turns out The Russian girls got him and the Rob all revved up, but took off after Angus / Rob paid for their dinner and drinks. Angus was walking around at 1 am, drunk, with a need to release his urge. While he's getting some vendor food a ladyboy (he didn't know this at the time) approached him and offered a massage to 'help him. ' he thinks to himself, this Thai chick looks hot and I am going to get laid after all!

Any way, he starts to sober up while he's getting the massage, with full clarity after he climaxes. I guess the man hands and adam's apple weren't initially a give away. The ladyboy giggles at his plight and he proceeds to lose his sh*t as he's a rough neck Australian guy, a place where machoness is even more of a thing than the USA.

He was so taken aback by the incident he nearly flew out the next day! He was eventually able to laugh it off, but my gosh, I'd never seen someone have an identity crisis like that in front of me before. I'm not sure what I would have done.

-Chicago.

I only spent about 4 months in Thailand. I think I was on a roll for worst case scenario in my previous post. I was in a doom and gloom mood, although that story was real if not firsthand. And I have never had a trans lie to me in Medellin even in the first few seconds. I have a few tranny acquaintances in Ground Zero because they seem to know more than anyone about what is going on, up to the moment, including where the chicas are who I like to boff.

The trannies can also provide a lot of protection when they like you. And no one would scare me more than one of those giant muscular buffed trannies who I see at Ground Zero, over near Simon Bolivar Parque, and in the Vennie section of El Centro. But I seem to have stayed on their good side.

Osteoknot

04-22-22, 17:14

This reminds me of a trip I had with two Australians back in 2007.

I'd never seen someone have an identity crisis like that in front of me before. I'm not sure what I would have done.Freaks me out a little when someone responds to one of my posts that is seventeen pages back, jaja, just kidding.

I loved my time in Australia and would return in a heartbeat. The mongering was much better for me in New Zealand where I also ended up with a very cute blonde steady girl for three months. I spent most of my time in Christchurch, which has to be the best name in the world for a city with a strong sex industry. I can't recall her name but by New Zealand GF and I toured the entire country together, she came from a wealthy family and was very well connected every where we went. All this before the big earthquake.

Those Australian girls looked like they spent too much time under the ozone hole to me, jaja. Very leathery.

There are trannies and ladyboys who are more feminine than most girls. I personally don't think it's the equipment that necessarily defines the gender, but that's controversial. If there's a dick between their legs, I don't want to see it but I want to know about it. I have seen some incredibly cute and ugly trannies in El Centro and Medellin. One time I acted my way out of getting robbed if not worse in Plaza Botero by some of the biggest, baddest, and muscular looking trannies I've ever seen. They looked liked if you took the meanest biggest and most muscular guys from the gym and slapped some make up on them, a tight shirt and a skirt. There was no doubt they were guys and a far cry from my refugee from The Crying Game in Pattaya. I tried to figure the attraction for trannies like that but at the moment it was all about self preservation. Thanks for the feedback!

Huacho

04-22-22, 21:55

So with women, you have to find the best of the best. You have to get her to like you. You have to propose commitment, have that proposal accepted, and you have to be loyal to her to get the best sex out of the best of the best.This is probably the single biggest crock of shit I have read in my entire wasted life.

LuvMexicanas

04-23-22, 02:20

This is probably the single biggest crock of shit I have read in my entire wasted life.Probably? More like undoubtedly, unequivocally, beyond any shadow of a doubt.

Huacho

04-23-22, 03:06

Probably? More like undoubtedly, unequivocally, beyond any shadow of a doubt.Yeah, and I read a lot. What a simp.

JjBee62

04-23-22, 04:43

Yeah, and I read a lot. What a simp.Don't forget, supporting a woman is a privilege.

Without spending at least a few hours with about 500 million women, how do you know you've found "the best of the best, of the best?" It sounds suspiciously like "this one will do."

PedroMorales

04-23-22, 07:47

he's a rough neck Australian guy, a place where machoness is even more of a thing than the USA..https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machismo is not American. Even this conversation shows American prefer frankfurthers. Australians have a thriving pervert sector too. I tried to watch Brokeback Mountain to see what American are about. What mongrels.

JjBee62

04-23-22, 11:03

Okay one more time. You go to a steakhouse and it is one of the best you have ever been to. You go back and it is just as good. It is the best of the best. Is it easy to find a steak house this good? Hell no.

But how do you go one step further than the best of the best? You say to the restaurant I am going to quit going to all the other steakhouses and only support you and in exchange for this commitment: I expect you to go up a notch higher. Can you do that? And the restaurant says yes, and they do exactly that. Now, you have reached the pinnacle of steak houses. You are getting the best service at the best of the best. Is there better? Probably. But is this about the best you can get? Well, it is so fucking good that going to any other steak house would likely be a disappointment.Here's a bit of information about steakhouses. In order for a steakhouse to make a profit, they can't just cater to one customer. I realize you're trying to turn the jab that Nounce made into an analogy, but it doesn't work. In order for a steakhouse to get to the level of one of the best, they need the right location, the right management, the right staff and the right suppliers. Once all the pieces are in place, they're stuck with that formula. Change one thing and the results quickly go downhill.

The only way to find a BOB (best of the best) steakhouse is to raise your own cattle, build your own steakhouse, overpay every employee and micromanage everything. You'll be putting in 100 hours a week and each steak is going to cost you about $500.

So with women, you have to find the best of the best. You have to get her to like you. You have to propose commitment, have that proposal accepted, and you have to be loyal to her to get the best sex out of the best of the best.When did you develop this superpower?

Bear with me. This is a simple concept which you will have difficulty with. According to you, in addition to the ex-wife, you've had a lot of SBs. Maybe there were some regular girlfriends too, plus the infamous Venezuelan. Right?

How many of those "relationships" did you know at the beginning were going to fail? For me, with one exception, every one was going to last. The exception I was sure would fail, but it had the potential for a lot of fun with very little financial risk.

Every single time you have been wrong. That's the same as almost everyone on ISG. It's how we got here. Anyone who has made the happily ever after bit work has no reason to look for other options.

So when did you develop the ability to know from the beginning that you'll end up with the fairy tale ending?

Anyone who questions me on this topic I will ask this: if your woman is so fucking great, why can you not commit to her? If she truly is the best of the best, you should commit to her if you want to get to the next stage. If she is the best of the best, how likely is it that you are going to really find better? Realistically, the only way to do better is going deeper with the best of the best.What woman? Nobody here has a woman. We have women, because that's what we want. Also, until you marry your BOB, you haven't committed to her. You have nothing keeping you committed to her except your continued desire to be committed to her. At any moment you can walk away.

If I were truly a narcissist, Nounce, I would say that neither you or anyone else could get where I am but I do not believe that. I have met guys here who are pretty close to this level.Narcissists don't accept that they're narcissists. However, if you read that paragraph again you will see that you met the condition which you said would illustrate your narcissism.

If your mind set is I could never be happy with just one woman, then you will never find her. One of the biggest things I had going for me was people in my life who really believed that if I found the right woman, the best of the best, I could be faithful to her. I get it. You think I am just as crazy as I thought they were.

Now do you get it?Everyone got it 3 weeks ago. The problem is you don't get it.

We're all grown men. Most of us have been around long enough and have tried enough different things to know what works for us. Any of us might change our mind about what we want, but it isn't going to be because of a post on ISG. It's going to be because the person found a woman they want to commit to, and chances are it will be a mistake.

It will be a mistake because there's almost no shared experience.

Villainy

04-23-22, 16:39

I am not saying I have the best steakhouse. What I am saying is this is the best one I have been to, one so good I do not need or want to go anywhere else. And that is how I know it is the best or at least the best I can get.

Maybe someone can have a better one than me, but you are not going to get there unless you commit totally to one steakhouse. Sorry. Now are you going to get the steak if you do not pay? Fuck no. That is another stupid comment. The best steakhouse has to provide value though and not rip you off though.

All three of you dummies had the same response. We are already eating at the best. Why you guys are dummies though is that I have eaten at all the places you have, and I am saying what I have is better. In fact, it is so good I do not want to eat anywhere else.

So how do you get to the best steakhouse? You have to think you are worthy to be there. You have to pay fair value, and you have to be open to and willing to commit if the steak is exceptional.
Okay one more time. You go to a steakhouse and it is one of the best you have ever been to. You go back and it is just as good. It is the best of the best. Is it easy to find a steak house this good? Hell no.

But how do you go one step further than the best of the best? You say to the restaurant I am going to quit going to all the other steakhouses and only support you and in exchange for this commitment: I expect you to go up a notch higher. Can you do that? And the restaurant says yes, and they do exactly that. Now, you have reached the pinnacle of steak houses. You are getting the best service at the best of the best. Is there better? Probably. But is this about the best you can get? Well, it is so fucking good that going to any other steak house would likely be a disappointment.

So when you all are telling me of the great steakhouses you have eaten at, my question to you is did you commit to it? If not, then do not tell me it is all that great. Okay, maybe it is 90 out of 100. My point is what gets you to 100 is commitment.

Can you say that a steakhouse that is a 50 and in demand can be 90? Hell no.

Can you pretend that a 70 is just as good as a 90? Hell no.

Can you say if the restaurant really liked me they would do it without pay? Hell no.

Can you get to a 100 by saying, "Well, you are pretty good but I want to keep my options open and keep eating steak at other places?" Sure you can do that, but if you really are eating at the best of the best, the chances of getting better are pretty slim.So, I'm convinced! Elvis found his cut of meat. His favorite meat. His meat of all meats. Congratulations and nice going Elvis!

But, of course, I do have a few questions. If you are SO committed to this one cut of meat. Why don't you put a ring on her finger? Why don't you buy a big hacienda for the two of you and her family? Is it that your commitment is braggadocio? When it comes to backing up your claim with your actions. Well I'm not hearing any nuptials are in the offing. Perhaps you're not as committed to that piece of meat as you say. Or perhaps you know that as that piece of meat ages a little it might not taste so good. Or perhaps you know that one day you're going to have a craving for lobster and well. Poof!! There goes the loyalty. Do tell.

As for the rest of us. Well some of us are committed but our commitment is to trying all different types of savory dishes. You see? I, for example, am like Diogenes but rather than trying to find an honest man (assuming that he was a real person and his "search" wasn't some sort of allegory) I'm always in search of the perfect sexual purveyor. Why? It's fun and I enjoy the hell out of it. I have other intellectual pursuits but finding women who are willing to trade a few hours of pleasure for a small sum of money is really more like a 'hobby' as we like to refer to it.

Of course, those of us who are constantly in pursuit are not hypocrites. We announce up front that we don't want a girlfriend. We're not looking for a permanent relationship. We're enjoying our life and sampling the smorgasbord of beautiful willing women.

SO Elvis, man-up and stop being a hypocrite. Marry the piece of meat you enjoy so much or admit that you are just another fool that fell in love with his hooker.

Elvis 2008

04-24-22, 07:36

Yeah, and I read a lot. What a simp.LOL. Yeah, you look at who posts and then agree or disagree with the post based on who you like or dislike. You do not have an objective cell in your body.

And I would be a simp based on the women you losers have tossed out: you and your street walkers, LuvMexicans and his strippers, and JJBee with his 7 GF who went from unemployed to stripper to ho in the short period he dated her.

Yeah, that is the "best of the best" in your worlds.

Elvis 2008

04-24-22, 17:29

The only way to find a BOB (best of the best) steakhouse is to raise your own cattle, build your own steakhouse, overpay every employee and micromanage everything. You'll be putting in 100 hours a week and each steak is going to cost you about $500.Nah, you find the BOB by going to the best steakhouses.

We have women, because that's what we want.Nah, you are settling for that and you should.

We're all grown men. Most of us have been around long enough and have tried enough different things to know what works for us. Any of us might change our mind about what we want, but it isn't going to be because of a post on ISG.Grown men huh? Yeah, that is a good one. Are your friends or family proud of who you are being in the hobby? Denial is thinking they are. Mr. E asked why I am hanging around the crack house every day but not going into smoke. It is funny how not one of you responded to that.

Everyone got it 3 weeks ago. The problem is you don't get it.Nah, I still do not think you get it. Did I tell you to give up all your women and focus on one? No. In fact, and this is the funny part, you, Villainy, Osteo, Huacho, and LuvMexicans, the guys thinking I am so nuts, should disregard everything I say and see as many woman as you can. You are not looking for the BOB. You all are eating at the dump.

Osteo is so at the crack house he is banging a girl who tried to scope him, fucking a girl with one of the nastiest rashes I have ever seen, and probably got septic from his bizarre sexual practices. That is a guy at the crack house. Of course, yeah, he is interesting. He might live a little longer if he got a tad more boring.

Nounce might find someone because he is not fishing totally in the dump and neither is Mr. E. he is actually the one I was talking to about this not you guys. He has own issues so he is not going to replicate what I have done or if he does, at least not talk about it right away. Mr. E bitched about sugar babies and then looked to get an account on seeking. He was totally with you on Covid and then changed his mind. He changes his mind and just forgets what he said to start with.

Mr Enternational

04-24-22, 18:26

I'm wondering what kind of dog you get to fuck in what kind of shithole for $10.60?Probably the same kind of dogs that get $205 (Colombia's minimum wage) for laboring away 23 days of the month. I guess to the dogs, $10.60 for 15 to 30 minutes of work does not seem as bad as it seems to folks from richer countries. Some may even figure it is damn good versus someone on the grind at a normal job making a mere $8.91 for the entire day.

How much would one suppose a Colombian guy making the same amount on a normal job be paying for hookers? 3 ($26.73) or even 4 ($35.64) days pay? Prime example of how foreigners go fucking things up with their back home way of thinking. Why should pussy cost so much when half the planet has one they can rent out?

JjBee62

04-24-22, 18:41

LOL. Yeah, you look at who posts and then agree or disagree with the post based on who you like or dislike. You do not have an objective cell in your body.

And I would be a simp based on the women you losers have tossed out: you and your street walkers, LuvMexicans and his strippers, and JJBee with his 7 GF who went from unemployed to stripper to ho in the short period he dated her.

Yeah, that is the "best of the best" in your worlds.No. You would be a "simp" (and I hate that word), because of things like:

1. Supporting a woman is a privilege.

2. A woman must earn your monogamy.

3. Paying to move a hooker and her family to another country.

4. Publicly crying on a hooker board because the hooker dumped you after you moved her and her family to another country.

5. Trying to explain how a steakhouse will become a better steakhouse if you commit to only eat all of your meals at that steakhouse.

6. Claiming a woman who already has a kid by some loser is the best of the best. She fucked up the most important decision she'll ever make and had to find a sucker to support her, her mistake and apparently her family too.

I've made lots of bad decisions and countless mistakes, and I'll keep making more (everyone makes mistakes, narcissists just can't admit to them), but I don't excuse other people's mistakes, just because they're willing to fuck me for money.

Strange thing. I currently have 5 women who aren't P4 P. Although I spend money on all of them, I'm not supporting any of them. Of the 5, 4 are employed and 3 are attending university. 2 own their own car, 1 has a motorcycle. None of them have children and 2 have a US Visa.

2 of them consider themselves my girlfriends, 1 wants the position, 1 just wants to check off things on her sexual bucket list and 1 has taken herself out of consideration because her sister is one of the girlfriends*.

I have no plans to settle down with any of them, but if I change my mind, marriage would be the result. None of the ridiculous "I'll support you and your family as long as you pretend to enjoy fucking me and don't let me catch you fucking other guys" shit. Legally binding commitment, no prenuptial agreement. Actual commitment between 2 adults instead of acting like a pre-schooler who just gave a girl a Ring Pop.

And I won't go the childish route of claiming any of them are the best of the best. My ego isn't fragile. Claiming I'm with women everyone else would beg to be with, or stupidly stating I'm having better sex than everyone else, doesn't interest me. Then again, I'm not a narcissist.

AmorPorFavor

04-24-22, 18:52

Probably the same kind of dogs that get $205 (Colombia's minimum wage) for laboring away 23 days of the month. I guess to the dogs, $10.60 for 15 to 30 minutes of work does not seem as bad as it seems to folks from richer countries. Some may even figure it is damn good versus someone on the grind at a normal job making a mere $8.91 for the entire day.

How much would one suppose a Colombian guy making the same amount on a normal job be paying for hookers? 3 ($26.73) or even 4 ($35.64) days pay? Prime example of how foreigners go fucking things up with their back home way of thinking. Why should pussy cost so much when half the planet has one they can rent out?I think I will go there and pay one $12 and fuck up your market.

Osteoknot

04-24-22, 19:47

I think I will go there and pay one $12 and fuck up your market.Payment does not determine price in a free marked controlled by Supply & Demand, but nice try.

Paulie97

04-24-22, 20:02

And I won't go the childish route of claiming any of them are the best of the best. My ego isn't fragile. Anyone typing out long posts day in and day out fighting to get the best of strangers in a hooker forum has a "fragile ego. " The rare occasional indulgence is excusable, but as a regular thing, and damn near as a way of life then someone has a problem. Size up the shoe and see if it fits.

As to the "women" or GFs, well most of these hookers have several guys they call their "BF" who send them money so we can add sucker to the list. That's while pointing out once again that one couldn't find a worse place for advice on relationships than a hooker forum, as most guys who congregate here are failures at this, and thus choose to satisfy their primal urges with P4P.

Osteoknot

04-24-22, 20:23

6. Claiming a woman who already has a kid by some loser is the best of the best. She fucked up the most important decision she'll ever make and had to find a sucker to support her, her mistake and apparently her family too.Perhaps I am missing some context because I did not read Elvis' post to which you responded, but your number 6 answer seems waaaaay off. I guess you know enough to call the guy who impregnated her a loser, but your point is sexist, as if all the blame falls on her.

I also see it as exceedingly unfair to brand every female with an unwanted pregnancy as fucking up the most important decision she'll ever make. Perhaps if she were to choose to stay home and take care of her kid instead of going to work as a research scientist to discover the cure for cancer, then maybe you have a point. That is a hypothetical and extreme example by design.

I just remembered after I started answering this, I was an unplanned, illegitimate kid who forced the marriage of two people. Exactly where does the "fuck up" of that decision begin and end?

Maybe in your never-ending quest to bash Elvis you got a little carried away? I probably should go back and read what Elvis wrote before I responded to you, but that would be a change for me, and I fear change, jaja.

DontSayMuch

04-25-22, 01:13

Hello board,

I'm thinking of going to Medellin in the next six months but am having a little problem with this forum's layout and finding questions. I'll ask some questions here and if there's a post or thread this is answered then if you could let me know where that is I'd really appreciate it.

I'll try not to ask too many questions at once and will break it up.

I'm looking to stay at a hotel / complex that has alright security, is guest friendly (multiple and no questions asked), and is near a good place to monger. For under $100 ideally.

Thanks for any responses, I appreciate it.

DSM.

JjBee62

04-25-22, 01:19

Perhaps I am missing some context because I did not read Elvis' post to which you responded, but your number 6 answer seems waaaaay off. I guess you know enough to call the guy who impregnated her a loser, but your point is sexist, as if all the blame falls on her.

I also see it as exceedingly unfair to brand every female with an unwanted pregnancy as fucking up the most important decision she'll ever make. Perhaps if she were to choose to stay home and take care of her kid instead of going to work as a research scientist to discover the cure for cancer, then maybe you have a point. That is a hypothetical and extreme example by design.

I just remembered after I started answering this, I was an unplanned, illegitimate kid who forced the marriage of two people. Exactly where does the "fuck up" of that decision begin and end?

Maybe in your never-ending quest to bash Elvis you got a little carried away? I probably should go back and read what Elvis wrote before I responded to you, but that would be a change for me, and I fear change, jaja.You failed to comprehend.

First, Elvis identified the father as a loser. You'll have to go back a ways to find that post, and he might have used a different word, but same basic idea.

The main point was calling the woman "best of the best." By my criteria, she's disqualified from being far above any other woman that anyone on ISG, has ever had, by the fact of the child. As always, I'll explain.

She might be incredibly beautiful, talented in bed and a world class cook and housekeeper. She might make an excellent girlfriend or even wife. However, per his somewhat vague description, she's much more. She's a pinnacle which nobody else has any hope of ever conquering. However, she has a kid.

And that knocks her down to the same level as most of the women most of us are using for entertainment purposes. She has a prior obligation. That creates limits. Spontaneity is severely restricted, if not eliminated. He can't, in the middle of dinner decide to go straight to the airport and take the next flight to anywhere. If they're spending a week away, he can't extend the trip indefinitely. The child must come first.

If he decides on a real commitment and wants to have children with her, her existing child will almost certainly cause some issues. Certainly it will complicate things.

I don't blame the woman for getting pregnant, it's the Colombian national pastime for teenagers. However, it undeniably altered the path of her life and created a more difficult path for the offspring.

Her child also creates a potential problem for Elvis. If the two bond emotionally, it puts him in a difficult position. If he decides he no longer wants to keep the woman as his SB, he might feel obligated to continue because of the child. If he chooses to walk, will the child suffer?

I'm not interested in the SD-SB thing, but as I see it, it's a compromise. You get the benefits of a relationship, with the freedom to walk away, no muss, no fuss. Add a child and it's basically a marriage without the tax deduction.

JjBee62

04-25-22, 02:12

Anyone typing out long posts day in and day out fighting to get the best of strangers in a hooker forum has a "fragile ego. " The rare occasional indulgence is excusable, but as a regular thing, and damn near as a way of life then someone has a problem. Size up the shoe and see if it fits.

As to the "women" or GFs, well most of these hookers have several guys they call their "BF" who send them money so we can add sucker to the list. That's while pointing out once again that one couldn't find a worse place for advice on relationships than a hooker forum, as most guys who congregate here are failures at this, and thus choose to satisfy their primal urges with P4P.I'm surprised. I figured you would be off licking your wounds for another week. Did you just get a testosterone booster and started feeling macho again?

Getting the best of strangers on a hooker board doesn't require much of a fight. Afterall, there aren't many stranger than you and I've had no trouble there. You've resorted to sending PMs to others, hoping one of them could do what you can't, get the best of me. Shit, you even made a trip to Parque Lleras to find me, because I had blocked you. Just out of curiosity, can you name 1 person who regularly visits Medellin, who you can message and say "let's go get a beer?" Anyone out there who you haven't alienated?

As for making it a regular thing, you've been guilty yourself, many times, except it's almost your only contribution. Then when someone dunks on you, you sit on the bench pouting for 2 weeks. Besides, it's 600 miles between Denver and Kansas City with nothing interesting on the way. Pointing out your inadequacy helps cover the miles.

You're right about one thing. Most of the working girls will take all the gringo boyfriends they can get. However, as usual, you assume your experiences are the same as mine.

By the way, whatever happened to your Colombian friend who drugged and robbed you? Maybe he will come and drink with you again.

Mr Enternational

04-25-22, 03:33

Mr. E. he is actually the one I was talking to about this not you guys. He has own issues so he is not going to replicate what I have done or if he does, at least not talk about it right away. Mr. E bitched about sugar babies and then looked to get an account on seeking. He was totally with you on Covid and then changed his mind. He changes his mind and just forgets what he said to start with.Of course I am not intending to replicate paying the rent for any sorry ass grown woman.

I went on Seeking to see the chicks. I never paid any money to send them emails. The chicks there look the same as the chicks on any other website despite those that use the site saying how above other chicks Seeking chicks supposedly are. Anyone can look for themselves. I even saw a couple of chicks on there that I already knew from Cupid that I have never given money to. So I would like to thank guys like Elvis for paying their bills so that they would not expect me to.

I do not know who I was supposedly with on Covid or what I changed to. I have had my own opinions since day 1 and have not faltered. I am still not vaccinated and have yet to fall ill. I have a vaccine card, a qr code, and can still make test results at the click of a finger. So really what did I change from and to?

It seems many countries are finally lifting restrictions as well. As of May 1 Thailand is no longer requiring stupid tests or booking of covid hotels to quarantine in. As of May 1 people will not have to wear masks in Lima outside although half the people already don't. Philippines has opened back up. Europe. Whoever is still balls deep in their defense of covid restrictions seem to be on the sinking side of history.