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So why would a doctor prescribe female hormones to a man? That is plainly ridiculous. I want you to gve me an example of a doctor that has prescribed female hormones to a man.
And if female hormones makes one grow tits, why can't a woman take them after breast surgery? And why then do trans women have surgery to have breasts?https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/male-to-female-hormones#definition.
I am truly sorry about your extreme ignorance regarding this subject, and I can't specify a particular doctor, but this happens with regularity.
https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/treatments/21653-feminizing-hormone-therapy
https://transcare.ucsf.edu/guidelines/initiating-hormone-therapy
https://mydoctor.kaiserpermanente.org/ncal/structured-content/Treatment_Feminizing_Hormone_Therapy.xml?co=%2Fregions%2Fncal
That last one says "we can prescribe," so actual Kaiser doctors are doing this. Oh so sorry I can't point to Dr. Jones or Dr. Smith specifically. So, while I'm not saying any of this is a GOOD thing, it's definitely a thing. And you continue to be consistently wrong in virtually everything you post.
You're apparently completely ignorant about both male and female hormones. Women already have estrogen and more estrogen won't make their tits bigger. But guess what? Biological women transitioning into being "men" take male hormones.
... Can you just try this exercise for me please:- I want you to think for a momnet about your inner self. What makes you a man. Are you a man? If the answer is affirmative, what is it that makes you think you are a man? Is it bcos a doctor told your parents you were a boy at birth? Is it bcos you happen to have a dick? Is it bcos you had your blood tested and you read that you have XY chromosomes? I suspect one or more of these might help, but I doubt any is the main reason. For example, imagine now that you did not have a dick. Everything else is the same, just you happen not to have a dick. Would you feel any less like a man? I very much doubt it. You feel like a man bcos you are a man. Same would be if you were born with breasts or a pussy. It would be the same you inside, saying that your a man.I want you to think for a moment, would you have sex with a woman that has a dick? The reason I post this question is because this issue has two sides.
I want you to think for a moment, would you have sex with a woman that has a dick? The reason I post this question is because this issue has two sides."The feeling is mutual ".
What is it your feeling, Nounce? Hehe.
Ok, I will play along. At this point in my life, my inclination tells me no. BUt since the siutation has never arisen, least of all recently, I cannot say for sure.
Glad that you at least wrote "women". Much would come down to whether I fancied her or not. I only fancy chicks and I just find it difficult to imagine that I would fancy her if she had a dick. But maybe I would do it as a dare. When I was a lot younger I used to have a list of "10 things to do before I die". I don't remember what they all were, but I ticked them all off, so maybe I could add another one. But I doubt it would be a regular fetish. I had a BJ on Soi 6 one time from a trans. But never ventured to find out if she had a dick.
https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/treatments/21653-feminizing-hormone-therapy
Huacho, you are soooo predictable! I already answered this, knowing exactly where you were going before you had even got there! These are not men getting tits, these are women getting tits.
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What is it your feeling, Nounce? Hehe.
..Another way to look at this issue, how will women feel when there is one in a naked locker room with dick, I don't have the answer and I think you probably don't either. What I am saying is that it is not black and white. Also what happens when the one with dick is aroused in front of all the other women.
Huacho, you are soooo predictable! I already answered this, knowing exactly where you were going before you had even got there! These are not men getting tits, these are women getting tits.You are just plain weird. Bye now.
how will women feel when there is one in a naked locker room with dick, I don't have the answer and I think you probably don't either. What I am saying is that it is not black and white. Also what happens when the one with dick is aroused in front of all the other women.In what circumstances will that ever happen? Last time I went in a bathroom, everyone had their clothes on. No one was walking around naked with a hard on. I will have to keep my eyes open for that in the future.
ChuchoLoco
05-12-22, 23:22
In what circumstances will that ever happen? Last time I went in a bathroom, everyone had their clothes on. No one was walking around naked with a hard on. I will have to keep my eyes open for that in the future.A bathroom is not a locker room, there is a difference just like there's a difference between a person with a penis and one without.
Am still waiting for someone to give me an answer. Getting tired of waiting so I will play it out for you all. Someone is going to put foward the name of a trans as an example of a man who was "given tits". Aind I am going to say that is not an example of a man, that is a woman. So there you have it.
MdS, Huacho, any other ignorant consevatves out there. Can you just try this exercise for me please:- I want you to think for a momnet about your inner self. What makes you a man. Are you a man? If the answer is affirmative, what is it that makes you think you are a man? Is it bcos a doctor told your parents you were a boy at birth? Is it bcos you happen to have a dick? Is it bcos you had your blood tested and you read that you have XY chromosomes? I suspect one or more of these might help, but I doubt any is the main reason. For example, imagine now that you did not have a dick. Everything else is the same, just you happen not to have a dick. Would you feel any less like a man? I very much doubt it. You feel like a man bcos you are a man. Same would be if you were born with breasts or a pussy. It would be the same you inside, saying that your a man.That's about as cowardly of a response as I've ever seen, even for you it's completely chicken shit.
The weakness in your argument (besides the obvious one that it's coming from you, and you're consistently bad at putting forth robust arguments), is it's completely undefined.
By your (lack of) reasoning, anyone who is prescribed hormone therapy is already the gender aligned with those particular hormones. If only you had learned to use Google.
Estrogen therapy is an option to treat men with schizophrenia. Hormone therapy is used as part of the treatment for prostate cancer. Testosterone is used to treat low sex drive in women. There are other uses.
A man taking estrogen as part of his prostate cancer treatment may experience breast growth. A woman treating low libido with Testosterone may grow facial hair or experience male pattern baldness.
It gets worse, for you.
There are many different definitions of gender. You're saying I'm a man because I feel like a man (does that make you a child because you feel children? But there are many different areas, legal and medical, which come into play.
Legally, in most places, until someone wins a legal challenge to change their gender, they are legally the gender assigned at birth.
This is particularly troublesome in the rare case of, for example, a child who is identified as male, due to an oversized clitoris and incomplete sexual development. Is that person male? Female? She will be socialized ad a male, treated as a male and probably identify as male, at least until puberty. She might feel as if she's male, solely due to socialization. Had gender been correctly identified at birth, would she reach puberty feeling female? Either way, you have a female, legally identified as male, who may self identify as either male of female (the same happens rarely with boys registered as girls because of incomplete sexual development).
If either instance eventually results in a doctor prescribing hormones to promote sexual development, you have all of these combinations:
1. A male, who identifies as male, legally classified as female, receiving hormones which causes breast growth.
2. A male, who identifies as female, legally classified as a female, receiving hormones which cause breast growth.
3. A female, who identifies as female, legally classified as male, receiving hormones which inhibit breast growth.
4. A female, who identifies as male, legally classified as male, receiving hormones which inhibit breast growth.
That's just for starters. It gets really complicated if you dig a bit deeper.
Continuing with the legal aspect, many situations require the completion of certain processes in the transition from one gender to another, before the person can be recognized as being the other gender. As Nounce pointed out, if just saying "I feel like a girl" defines gender, you're going to have a bunch of high school boys walking around naked with erections in girl's locker rooms (when you get done jerking off over that visual, read on).
In case you are still unaware, a locker room probably contains toilets, but it is not the same as a public bathroom. It has lockers (hence the name) where people can store their clothes and change to or from athletic apparel. There are also shower facilities. It's quite common to see naked people in locker rooms.
The medical issues of gender identification are numerous, involving sexual organs, chromosomes and hormones.
In part of this I agree with you. What a person's gender is is almost never of any concern to me.
A bathroom is not a locker room, there is a difference just like there's a difference between a person with a penis and one without.Ah right. I overlooked that. My apologies. I dunno, your correct. Most changing rooms I have been in had cubicles for changing anyway. And who is going to be most embarrassed? Am pretty sure the trans would be. If I was trans and had a dick, I think I'd keep my kickers on when I changed in public.
And yes, there is a difference between someone w a dick and someone without. Just as there is a difference between someone with a tattoo or ears pierced and someone without.
You are just plain weird. Bye now.Your the wierd one. Your like an ant. No matter how you try to stop it doing what it wants to do, it just goes stright back to doing it. It's pre-progammed that way and its impossible for it to be any otther way.
DontSayMuch
05-13-22, 05:09
Another way to look at this issue, how will women feel when there is one in a naked locker room with dick, I don't have the answer and I think you probably don't either. What I am saying is that it is not black and white. Also what happens when the one with dick is aroused in front of all the other women.I understand your pov, but I think that it overlooks the flip side of that coin. You will have trans men having to use the women's locker room because they were born a girl but definitely look masculine now. Look up images of trans men, I wouldn't want my daughter to be in a locker room with a trans man and would much prefer people to go to the locker room they think they should be in. I also have a son, and I wouldn't want a trans woman to be forced to use the men's locker room because of some misguided government law. Forcing trans people into the bathroom by the criteria of the gender assigned at birth, or even worse their chromosomal makeup, is a terrible idea.
As before I welcome the discussion because I enjoy listening to different perspectives.
In what circumstances will that ever happen? Last time I went in a bathroom, everyone had their clothes on. No one was walking around naked with a hard on. I will have to keep my eyes open for that in the future.Haven't been to a women's locker room myself. I guess swim team's locker room and Sauna. Are you intentionally missing the point? LOL.
Haven't been to a women's locker room myself. I guess swim team's locker room and Sauna. Are you intentionally missing the point? LOL.No. For some unknown reason I read locker room to be bathroom. So I addressed it as best I could in my reposnse to ChuchoLoco, below. I expect most women would not see "the point" either. Haha.
Forcing trans people into the bathroom by the criteria of the gender assigned at birth, or even worse their chromosomal makeup, is a terrible idea.
As before I welcome the discussion because I enjoy listening to different perspectives.5 posts. Your correct. You don't say much! Hehe. But I am with you on this one. It's also a very overblown subject.
Mr Enternational
05-13-22, 18:48
Forcing trans people into the bathroom by the criteria of the gender assigned at birth, or even worse their chromosomal makeup, is a terrible idea.I do not know about forcing people into a toilet. But what I do realize is that USA must be filled with a bunch of perverts. Traveling around the world I notice that this is not even an issue like Americans bring it up to be. In Asia and South America you see women cleaning the men's bathroom without a care in the world. Nobody is in there flashing their dicks or making unwanted advances. Trans (born male) usually use the ladies room. Chicks are never like ewww. Same thing if you go to a club. Ladies bathroom is full, so some will come into the men's to use it. Even at my nephew's graduation last week my sister said if the ladies was full she would just go into the men's to use it. How often do you guys even come across a trans person in your day to day living for this to be an issue? Usually people just go to use the toilet and get the fuck out. People are not trying to check out and hook up with the people next to them.
I understand your pov, but I think that it overlooks the flip side of that coin. You will have trans men having to use the women's locker room because they were born a girl but definitely look masculine now. Look up images of trans men, I wouldn't want my daughter to be in a locker room with a trans man and would much prefer people to go to the locker room they think they should be in. I also have a son, and I wouldn't want a trans woman to be forced to use the men's locker room because of some misguided government law. Forcing trans people into the bathroom by the criteria of the gender assigned at birth, or even worse their chromosomal makeup, is a terrible idea.
As before I welcome the discussion because I enjoy listening to different perspectives.I don't think you understand based on your question. My question will be voided if the women with dick have their own locker room or even their own bathroom.
I don't think you understand based on your question. My question will be voided if the women with dick have their own locker room or even their own bathroom.Or if you had cubicles. Nounce, what about if you had a CIS lesbian woman w a dildo? How would the other women feel then?
I do not know about forcing people into a toilet. But what I do realize is that USA must be filled with a bunch of perverts. Traveling around the world I notice that this is not even an issue like Americans bring it up to be. In Asia and South America you see women cleaning the men's bathroom without a care in the world. Nobody is in there flashing their dicks or making unwanted advances. Trans (born male) usually use the ladies room. Chicks are never like ewww. Same thing if you go to a club. Ladies bathroom is full, so some will come into the men's to use it. Even at my nephew's graduation last week my sister said if the ladies was full she would just go into the men's to use it. How often do you guys even come across a trans person in your day to day living for this to be an issue? Usually people just go to use the toilet and get the fuck out. People are not trying to check out and hook up with the people next to them.Can't keep the ignorant masses, brainwashed and ready to attack the latest 'threat" if you don't constantly rile them up over non-existent shit.
I do not know about forcing people into a toilet. But what I do realize is that USA must be filled with a bunch of perverts. Traveling around the world I notice that this is not even an issue like Americans bring it up to be. In Asia and South America you see women cleaning the men's bathroom without a care in the world. Nobody is in there flashing their dicks or making unwanted advances. Trans (born male) usually use the ladies room. Chicks are never like ewww. Same thing if you go to a club. Ladies bathroom is full, so some will come into the men's to use it. Even at my nephew's graduation last week my sister said if the ladies was full she would just go into the men's to use it. How often do you guys even come across a trans person in your day to day living for this to be an issue? Usually people just go to use the toilet and get the fuck out. People are not trying to check out and hook up with the people next to them.Unless they are a republican senator.
Or if you had cubicles. Nounce, what about if you had a CIS lesbian woman w a dildo? How would the other women feel then?Now you are getting it.
Now you are getting it.But that was a joke to show the ridiculousness of the situation.
Nymphette left our room to go down the hall and fetch her sister. Very comfortable room.
RamDavidson84
05-14-22, 22:07
Can't keep the ignorant masses, brainwashed and ready to attack the latest 'threat" if you don't constantly rile them up over non-existent shit.Nah, that shit is creepy. I don't want to have to take a piss in the same room as a bull dike lesbian. It's too much change too fast. I really would not want to let a strange creepy old tranny take a shit in the same room as a young school girl. That has got to be borderline traumatic for a young girl, the young girls parents should also not have to witness that either. You are going to end up with old men dressing up like trannies just creeping around bathrooms. It won't be frequent, but it will definitely happen much more than it is now. Why ask 99% of society to change for the 1%? It just doesn't make logical sense.
What does make sense is that many modern extremists on the left will advocate policies which they know are "illogical" and "detrimental" to society because they want the traditional American society to destabilize and under go massive cultural change in which the views of the extremists are accepted and implemented. Unfortunately many Democrats in high positions of authority are working girls to the vote and are far more concerned with maintaining their own personal political power and influence. If it's between the politician doing what is financially, politically, and morally responsible or them backing extremist policies to win votes- the majority of the time they will working girl themselves out to get a few extra votes from the deplorables of society to win an election. Just look at the policies Democrats have advocated for in the last 15 or 16 years and see how things they used to advocate for like being strict on crime, lower taxes for working Americans, border security, having sufficient baby formula, etc have all shifted drastically. And the uneducated sheep will purposely blind themselves to more "logical" and "beneficial" policies and just vote for the candidate who says things which make them feel better in the moment rather than open their fucking eyes and select a candidate who is actually going to provide effective solutions to the problems of society.
In short I am not personally surprised after following the last few election cycles that Democrats want to support legislation to allow men dressing as women into women's bathrooms and allow men dressing as women to compete against women in sports. Of course none of these policies benefit society in any way, shape, or form. It is sad to see that it is no longer about doing what is "right" and only about backing policies that can win and defeat a Republican or a Democrat. And yes I know Republicans are almost as bad sometimes. It's very concerning to think about where this will all end and when the line will be drawn or if this divisiveness and extremism will eventually lead to violent conflict which will teach us all a lesson that our leaders failed us and we failed ourselves. There is no reason for one of the richest most successful nations in history to be this divided at this point in history.
RamDavidson84
05-15-22, 01:21
Nah, that shit is creepy. I don't want to have to take a piss in the same room as a bull dike lesbian. It's too much change too fast. I really would not want to let a strange creepy old tranny take a shit in the same room as a young school girl. That has got to be borderline traumatic for a young girl, the young girls parents should also not have to witness that either. You are going to end up with old men dressing up like trannies just creeping around bathrooms. It won't be frequent, but it will definitely happen much more than it is now. Why ask 99% of society to change for the 1%? It just doesn't make logical sense.
What does make sense is that many modern extremists on the left will advocate policies which they know are "illogical" and "detrimental" to society because they want the traditional American society to destabilize and under go massive cultural change in which the views of the extremists are accepted and implemented. Unfortunately many Democrats in high positions of authority are working girls to the vote and are far more concerned with maintaining their own personal political power and influence. If it's between the politician doing what is financially, politically, and morally responsible or them backing extremist policies to win votes- the majority of the time they will working girl themselves out to get a few extra votes from the deplorables of society to win an election. Just look at the policies Democrats have advocated for in the last 15 or 16 years and see how things they used to advocate for like being strict on crime, lower taxes for working Americans, border security, having sufficient baby formula, etc have all shifted drastically. And the uneducated sheep will purposely blind themselves to more "logical" and "beneficial" policies and just vote for the candidate who says things which make them feel better in the moment rather than open their fucking eyes and select a candidate who is actually going to provide effective solutions to the problems of society..So every time I post, what I actually write and what gets posted always slightly changes. This time they changed where you see "working girls" or "working girl". I originally wrote "working girl". As in politicians "working girl themselves out". Very strange how it always changes.
JohnnyWalker55
05-15-22, 14:05
Nah, that shit is creepy. I don't want to have to take a piss in the same room as a bull dike lesbian. It's too much change too fast. I really would not want to let a strange creepy old tranny take a shit in the same room as a young school girl. That has got to be borderline traumatic for a young girl, the young girls parents should also not have to witness that either. You are going to end up with old men dressing up like trannies just creeping around bathrooms. It won't be frequent, but it will definitely happen much more than it is now. Why ask 99% of society to change for the 1%? It just doesn't make logical sense.
What does make sense is that many modern extremists on the left will advocate policies which they know are "illogical" and "detrimental" to society because they want the traditional American society to destabilize and under go massive cultural change in which the views of the extremists are accepted and implemented. Unfortunately many Democrats in high positions of authority are working girls to the vote and are far more concerned with maintaining their own personal political power and influence. If it's between the politician doing what is financially, politically, and morally responsible or them backing extremist policies to win votes- the majority of the time they will working girl themselves out to get a few extra votes from the deplorables of society to win an election. Just look at the policies Democrats have advocated for in the last 15 or 16 years and see how things they used to advocate for like being strict on crime, lower taxes for working Americans, border security, having sufficient baby formula, etc have all shifted drastically. And the uneducated sheep will purposely blind themselves to more "logical" and "beneficial" policies and just vote for the candidate who says things which make them feel better in the moment rather than open their fucking eyes and select a candidate who is actually going to provide effective solutions to the problems of society..As mongers we're usually cultural relativists with a libertarian streak, be it on the left or the right, as we just want to live and let live as a direct extension of our hobby.
But yea, some people just don't get it.
Who wants "her" in a bathroom alone with your 12 year old daughter? The people pushing this are usually childless and / or the outcasts of society.
https://youtu.be/JdnBV-S-RXk
Why is all of this an issue when Europe has unisex bathrooms and bathroom stall have cubicles? And of course, the only Democrats who were advocating tax cuts were a) the Southern Democrats or DINOs, and b) doing so when marginal tax rates were much, much higher. The Rs, in their never ending reverse Robin Hood tax cuts for the rich, love to talk about income tax cuts. Well, that is only one-third or less of the taxation story, along with sales and property taxes. Sales taxes used to be 2 or 3% and now they are 8 or 9%. And, of course, sales taxes are inherently regressive (and really fucking annoying). If the Rs wanted a fair tax cut that would help rich and poor alike, stop taxing Social Security. The income tax on that money has already been paid. Reagan, of course, did that (although Clinton added the 85% bit), as well as taxing unemployment which is unbelievably stupid and flat out mean.
I really would not want to let a strange creepy old tranny take a shit in the same room as a young school girl. Why ask 99% of society to change for the 1%?
And the uneducated sheep will purposely blind themselves to more "logical" and "beneficial" policies and just vote for the candidate who says things which make them feel better in the moment rather than open their fucking eyes and select a candidate who is actually going to provide effective solutions to the problems of society.
legislation to allow men dressing as women into women's bathrooms and allow men dressing as women to compete against women in sports. It's very concerning to think about where this will all end and when the line will be drawn or if this divisiveness and extremism will eventually lead to violent conflict which will teach us all a lesson that our leaders failed us and we failed ourselves. There is no reason for one of the richest most successful nations in history to be this divided at this point in history.You touched on 2 very big subjects:
- Minority and specifically trans rights.
- Political parties representing the people.
Both are bigger subjects than we can address here but, since I am a great believer in the power of education and knowledge, I will comment here:
If we think about minorities in general, we can think of countless ways in which we already recognize and support minorities not only to support their rights to prevent discrimination, but also to support them with their extra needs. Parentless children, people with physical and mental disabilities, the sick, people with different beliefs, people of different culture and racial roots, people with different political views, people with different sexual orientation, different skin colour. Why should trans be any different?
While I accept that people should rightfully recognize the need for personal safety, why do you think trans people in a ladies bathroom is any more of a threat than any other type of person in a bathroom? You wouldn't want a "strange creepy old" anyone around a "young school girl", or anyone else. So why discriminate against trans here? I hear your fear, but I don't view it as any different to the shift that society went through to rid itself of any other unfounded prejudice that was popular in the past fear of women, fear of blacks, fear of homosexuals, I feel the fear of vegans. Now its fear of trans. It's an unfounded fear, it's borne of ignorance, and its discriminatory. It needs to be combatted through education and that's why it needs to be supported by government.
"There is no reason for one of the richest most successful nations in history to be this divided at this point in history. ".
This is a really interesting position bcos I feel the exact opposite.
To set the scene, the USA has always followed traditional mechanisms of rule inherited from the UK. This means that domestic and international politics is dominated by rich and powerful individuals and corporations the oligarchs. These policies are designed to benefit the wealthy at the expense of the weak; it's a systematic exploitation of its own people and those of other nations. This is why we see a neglect of healthcare, of education, of housing, of infrastructure, and a lack of respect to the rights of people from weaker countries that hold natural resources. And it's why there is blanket control of mainstream media that represents the views of the oligarchs as if they are second nature. No other options exist, and other opinions are ridiculed as the views of extremists, dangerous madmen, or terrorists.
From 1820-1970 real wages in the USA rose without much pause due to economic prosperity caused by geographical, geological and political good fortune. From 1970 to date, real wages have fallen without break.
What caused this change in the 1970's? Various factors worked to reduce real wages:
Prior to WW2, the USA was the New World in its golden age a place of untold and readily available resources, huge expanses of undeveloped land a country that was perfectly positioned to develop and deliver goods to a largely choked and overexploited Europe. Rapid economic expansion and the genocide of the indigenous people meant that there was always high demand for labour, meaning rising wages.
The advent of computers in everyday life meant more automation fewer jobs available.
Aftereffects of WW2 USA didn't enter the war until late and so was largely unaffected. All other super powers were destroyed. This meant USA had a free reign to dominate the world economy, which it did. This was a golden opportunity for the USA, but it was temporary and it changed in the 1960's-70's. Slowly Japan, Germany, later Korea, and now China, rose up to compete against and overcome US industry initially motor vehicles, computers, entertainment systems, now pretty much everything bar war equipment. The US response was to move production overseas and buy imports fewer jobs available.
1970's saw a cultural shift in the role of women. Encouraged to make a career, compete against men, be independent greater demand for jobs.
Due to global competition, foreign policy and imperialist exploitation of poorer nations, cheap labour flooded in to USA greater demand for jobs.
But money didn't stop flowing in the economy. Rather, they caused a huge transfer of wealth from the people to the capitalists they made enormous profits from automation and from cheap labour. Unfathomable sums of money were pushed up the ladder from the average Joe in to the hands of a few now- oligarchs.
How did the labour force respond to this reduction in wealth?:
Working longer hours since 1970's, average working hours has increased by 20%, whereas in Western Europe it has fallen by 20% over the same period.
Taking on second jobs there has been a huge increase in the number of people working 2 or 3 jobs, to make ends meet.
Borrowing money USA is now one of the most indebted countries in the world right from student years, property ownership, through to hospitalization and death.
How did the capitalists respond?:
What to do when you have levels of wealth never seen before, yet a population that is increasingly unable to buy anything from you?
Invested in the economy they invested huge amounts of money in new tech companies. New companies that had never made a cent before but that promised a return in 10 years the dot com bubble crashed the economy for years.
Invested in financial support they invested in financial institutions to lend money to the people to buy their products and property. The 1990's saw a removal of laws that prevented financial institutions from using customer deposits to make high risk loans laws that were enacted to protect the public after the banking catastrophes that brought about the Great Depression. Within 8 years of repealing these laws the housing loan bubble burst and the economy crashed again.
Now the economy is trapped in a systematic tailspin the people no longer have the spending power to fuel the economy, and the oligarchs hold ever-increasing amounts of wealth with no positive options to use it, so they increasingly look externally for better market conditions. Ever greater numbers of people are swept up in the widening net, as the middle income classes crumble and join the poor as a resource to either exploit or neglect by the increasingly powerful oligarchs. Only a dramatic shift in state policy can change this, but the capitalists ensure the status quo is maintained by buying government policy. Corruption of the highest order. This is why we see a constant flip-flopping of policy between 2 parties that both represent the needs of the elites, not the people.
If that is not a reason to be divided, I don't know what is. But the divide should not Republican v Democrat; it should be the people vs the oligarchs.
JohnnyWalker55
05-15-22, 21:14
Why is all of this an issue when Europe has unisex bathrooms and bathroom stall have cubicles? And of course, the only Democrats who were advocating tax cuts were a) the Southern Democrats or DINOs, and b) doing so when marginal tax rates were much, much higher. The Rs, in their never ending reverse Robin Hood tax cuts for the rich, love to talk about income tax cuts. Well, that is only one-third or less of the taxation story, along with sales and property taxes. Sales taxes used to be 2 or 3% and now they are 8 or 9%. And, of course, sales taxes are inherently regressive (and really fucking annoying). If the Rs wanted a fair tax cut that would help rich and poor alike, stop taxing Social Security. The income tax on that money has already been paid. Reagan, of course, did that (although Clinton added the 85% bit), as well as taxing unemployment which is unbelievably stupid and flat out mean.Let's not act like the dems are the saviors of the poor / middle class and the repubs are the party of the rich. This isn't a freshman polysci course at a university. Both parties rob the country blind, both do insider trading, get kick backs from lobbys and contractors, especially this joke of a bill sending 40 bill to Ukraine to be slushed around among oligarchs and used to buy up all the cheap assets in a semi failed state.
The religious angle of the repubs like tom cotton and crew is annoying, but at least they have some moral standards left. The dems are in a race to see who can be the most "progressive" aka discarding any traditional family values be it the nuclear family, gender norms, and all pushing all the minority "oppression" garbage.
Reading some of this stuff I'm wondering WTF some of you guys are doing in public restrooms. It's a simple process. You go in, do what you need to do and walk out.
There aren't many things you can do in a public restroom without someone noticing something isn't right. If you're standing around in the women's room checking out little girls and trying to follow them into the stall you're going to quickly find yourself in handcuffs. It doesn't matter if you're male, female, trans or pretending to be trans.
In what world is some girl going to let someone grope her in the bathroom because they look like a girl? Would that work with you? If you're at the urinal and someone reaches around and grabs your junk are you okay as long as it's a man, or looks like one?
It's probably been 50 years since I was first warned to watch out for strangers in the restroom. I'm sure my sisters got a similar warning. It's nothing new, it's not a trans thing it hasn't changed anything and nobody is forcing you to change. You're just expected, as an adult to know how to behave in the bathroom. It doesn't matter who is also using the bathroom.
If you've taken a leak at an airport bathroom in Colombia you've almost certainly had a woman in there, cleaning. Do you scream like a child, or just finish your business and leave?
If you think some straight man (who isn't already a sex offender) is going to pretend to be trans to get into the girl's restroom, 2 things come to mind.
1. You must be extremely effeminate. For most of us men, we would need 2 hours with an expert makeup artist to pass as female from 10 feet away. Within the close quarters of a public restroom, forget about it. My size alone would make it impossible.
2. You have an unhealthy obsession with young girls in public restrooms. I've been obsessed with the female form since I was in diapers and that will continue until after I'm in diapers again, but all that sneaking into the girl's room fantasy ended after puberty.
To sum it up:
If you need to piss, piss. If you need to shit, shit. When you're done wash your hands and get the fuck out. Don't try to figure out the gender, sexual orientation, or circumcision status of the other people. Unless they are behaving abnormally for a public restroom, assume they can figure out how to piss without your help.
JohnnyWalker55
05-17-22, 21:55
If you think some straight man (who isn't already a sex offender) is going to pretend to be trans to get into the girl's restroom, 2 things come to mind.
1. You must be extremely effeminate. For most of us men, we would need 2 hours with an expert makeup artist to pass as female from 10 feet away. Within the close quarters of a public restroom, forget about it. My size alone would make it impossible.
2. You have an unhealthy obsession with young girls in public restrooms. I've been obsessed with the female form since I was in diapers and that will continue until after I'm in diapers again, but all that sneaking into the girl's room fantasy ended after puberty..You seem out of touch with the current zeitgest. It isn't 1987. Nobody is worried about straight guys dressing in drag. It's the actual trannies people are worried about, as seen in the gamestop video I posted below. You've seen the trans SW in Botero, you think they're right in the head? I'm actually wondering how many trans people you've spoken to in the states, 90% are bat shit insane and have some sort of mental issue / autism.
As an example, there are these things called "cons". World con, gen con, it's like a nerdy gathering for cosplayers and anime aficionados. The signs explicitly mention that anybody can use any restroom regardless of how much they look like that "gender", and there has been a lot of backlash because you have guys in drag who aren't "straight guys", but trans guys, with 5 o clock shadows, using the women's bathroom.
I'm wondering how many non-pros you talk to as well, ask any woman if they want a trans shitting next to them and 90% will say hell no.
This is another good example of the "morally superior, tolerant" left gaslighting an issue and moving goal posts.
Elvis 2008
05-17-22, 23:49
I mean imaging you like to go to this popular restaurant and there is always this person stations in the restaurant telling everybody the food is terrible, don't eat there. LOL.DF has taste. When I went to Colombia and Medellin, it was a huge disappointment. I went after having been in Argentina when it was hopping and Brazil. That said, if DF saw the Colombia I have, he would not have that attitude. When I saw the Monterrey, Mexico he saw, I changed my mind and liked it too. Routard's posts gave me hope I was missing part of what Colombia was about.
Do you think the argument here will turn out differently had you met with some of them before from the viewpoint of both sides? I remember you have met DF, that is why I posted.The difference is that DF knows I do not lie and that you have to spend the money to get women. So he would be happy for me because he knows I am not full of shit like so many guys here are.
The two sides comes from guys who are hanging out in the gutter and think the gutter is the only place to be. This I have been scoped or attempted to be scoped or papaya where stealing is expected is being in the gutter. I will go into the gutter to get fucked but I do not want to hang out there. If I did, I would say as one guy did all of Colombia is a hustle.
So giving money to women during the lockdown on seeking, ("Hey, I know things are rough and that you cannot work, but I want you to know that I am real and I want to help you out") had an incredible effect. This trip when the lockdown ended was an unprecedented run through of beauties including a bonafide 10 in Medellin and the beauty queen in Cartagena.
So DF would be like I am happy for you, and the gutter dwellers said spending that money was dumb, the beauty queen was fake, and I could have the 10 for $50 instead of $100. At the time, all these guys were in their basements too scared to go to Colombia.
Then I go down again a few months later and I meet my current gal. Fast forward a year, and my last night in Colombia I was eating at a super nice place on the outskirts of Cartagena with her friends, a lawyer and architect talking about Colombia among other things. What cracks me up is some of these guys are thinking they know the real Colombia, and it is like you are going to the ghetto in Detroit and then saying you know all about the United States.
It is funny even my own mother was lecturing me on what is best saying my brother loved his family and would rather be with them than doing what I was doing. The day after meeting the beauty queen my brother called and told me his son shit on his carpet and he had to clean it up. He asked me how my trip was and I told him I got a personal tour of Cartagena by Miss Cartagena but do not worry because mom said your life is better, and he died laughing.
So these guys remind me of my mother. They want to think their lives are better than mine, and I am full of shit. The idea that there is a Colombia where women do not scope men, steal when they can, and are constantly trying to hustle does not exist in their mind.
The whole thing about the best sex was this. If you found a woman who could stop traffic, was great in bed, really nice, and totally devoted to you, do you think it is possible you would not stray? It was not an appropriate question to ask of men who hang out in the slums. That was my bad.
Mr Enternational
05-18-22, 01:09
The whole thing about the best sex was this. If you found a woman who could stop traffic, was great in bed, really nice, and totally devoted to you, do you think it is possible you would not stray? It was not an appropriate question to ask of men who hang out in the slums. That was my bad.Uhh yeah. A-Rod did it to J-Lo. Jay-Z did it to Beyonce. Donald did it to Melania. Nick Cannon did it to Mariah. Charles did it to Diana. JFK did it to Jackie. The list goes on forever throughout history. I guess the prince of England had been hanging out in too many slums.
The saying goes that no matter how fine you think a chick is, there is some guy somewhere that is tired of her shit. I wish the best for you though and that you continue down a blissful path.
And I don't know if this point has been raised, but transgendering in public restrooms has been going on for decades, but no one was in a hissy fit about about it because everything was going along fine, until it became a political hot potato.
Reading some of this stuff I'm wondering WTF some of you guys are doing in public restrooms. It's a simple process. You go in, do what you need to do and walk out.
There aren't many things you can do in a public restroom without someone noticing something isn't right. If you're standing around in the women's room checking out little girls and trying to follow them into the stall you're going to quickly find yourself in handcuffs. It doesn't matter if you're male, female, trans or pretending to be trans.
In what world is some girl going to let someone grope her in the bathroom because they look like a girl? Would that work with you? If you're at the urinal and someone reaches around and grabs your junk are you okay as long as it's a man, or looks like one?
It's probably been 50 years since I was first warned to watch out for strangers in the restroom. I'm sure my sisters got a similar warning. It's nothing new, it's not a trans thing it hasn't changed anything and nobody is forcing you to change. You're just expected, as an adult to know how to behave in the bathroom. It doesn't matter who is also using the bathroom.
You seem out of touch with the current zeitgest. It isn't 1987. Nobody is worried about straight guys dressing in drag. It's the actual trannies people are worried about, as seen in the gamestop video I posted below. You've seen the trans SW in Botero, you think they're right in the head? I'm actually wondering how many trans people you've spoken to in the states, 90% are bat shit insane and have some sort of mental issue / autism.
As an example, there are these things called "cons". World con, gen con, it's like a nerdy gathering for cosplayers and anime aficionados. The signs explicitly mention that anybody can use any restroom regardless of how much they look like that "gender", and there has been a lot of backlash because you have guys in drag who aren't "straight guys", but trans guys, with 5 o clock shadows, using the women's bathroom.
I'm wondering how many non-pros you talk to as well, ask any woman if they want a trans shitting next to them and 90% will say hell no.
This is another good example of the "morally superior, tolerant" left gaslighting an issue and moving goal posts.I just never got around to building a shrine to the Fox News panic brigade. Otherwise, I'm sure I would see it the way you do.
In my younger days I went to a few of the various conventions, I have younger friends and relatives who go to several every year. From the view of people who actually attend the conventions, instead of someone who believes "the sky is falling" reports from the aforementioned panic brigade, it seems to be a rare occurrence and a minor issue.
Let's see. As far as trans people. I spent about 6 months, every night in a bar located next to what was the biggest gay, trans, lesbian bar in Medellin. Quite often, because that club was generally packed on the weekends, gay, lesbian and trans people would come in and hang out. Since the manager was a lesbian (apparently now a somewhat famous singer), they mingled freely amongst the gringos and other customers with no problems.
I've spent a fair amount of time both around the Veracruz alley and Parque Bolivar and have seen the trans who frequent those areas. Other than one who tried to hug me, I've never noticed anything particularly disturbing about any of them. I'm not really qualified to just walk past someone and accurately diagnose their mental health, especially if they are just standing around doing nothing.
I lived for a year in Hillcrest, the gay community in San Diego. You saw all types, almost all of them causing no trouble at all. Although, closing time at the Lesbian bar often featured arguments because of jealousy. I also spent 4 years volunteering with an art therapy project in San Diego, which was almost exclusively either gay or trans men with AIDS. Again, all just normal behavior.
Almost forgot, I went out in Nashville one night, on Elvis Presley's birthday (1998? With 2 girls I knew from the area, a guy I knew from Michigan and a trans, I think from North Carolina. The trans had a crush on me and I didn't know she was trans, until well into the night when she asked if it bothered me. It didn't. I had no interest in her, just wasn't my type, but certainly wasn't batshit crazy. She ended up making out with an Elvis impersonator.
90% seems to be a common theme with you. What a bizarre coincidence that everything is 90%. It's almost as if you pulled the number out of your ass.
Trans people are more likely to have mental health issues. No question about it. Gays and lesbians are more likely to have mental health issues. People with obvious deformities are more likely to have mental health issues. It's quite obvious you fail to understand why and you never will.
You also won't understand this, but it's about as simple as I can make it. Compare the behavior of 2 dogs. One dog was raised as part of a family, it was always treated well, well fed, cared for and loved. The other dog was always beaten, yelled at, mistreated, abused in every way. If you take both dogs after 2 years and put them in the same, normal, safe environment, do they behave differently? Absolutely. Without a doubt. The abused dog might damage things, attack children or hide from people. In the dog world it has mental health issues. Do you understand why?
Many LGBTQ children suffer some level of abuse, because they are different. Years of abuse inhibits normal social development. Even without overt abuse, society tells them they aren't normal. Normal social development is necessary to assimilate into society. Failure to assimilate results in mental health problems. You find the same patterns in all people who are subject to childhood abuse. Abuse doesn't have to be physical.
How many non-pros do I talk to? I can't tell you. Except when I am physically in the act of paying a woman for sex, I don't classify people in that way. Just as I don't classify people as black, gay, young, paralyzed. They're all just people. When I'm writing about someone I will apply labels for the readers. Otherwise I'm getting PMs asking how much did I pay her.
I can tell you that I've never asked anyone, male, female, trans, pro, whatever, how they would feel about having a trans person shitting next to them. I will never ask that. I won't ask someone how they feel about someone black, Jewish, Muslim, Latino, Gay, Lesbian, Disabled or Republican shitting next to them. And if any woman tells me that she wouldn't want someone shitting next to her because they belong to a particular group, I would no longer be talking to her. Seriously, who in the world, in normal conversation asks someone "would it bother you if a (fill in the blank) was shitting in the bathroom stall next to you?
I don't approve of bigotry. I won't. And all of this is nothing but bigotry. If you're going to be a bigot, own it. Don't pussyfoot around.
Maybe the problem is, you don't know what a women's restroom looks like. Perhaps, like the clitoris, women's restrooms are something you know nothing about. I'll describe one. There's a door, inside there are some sinks, with a mirror, soap dispensers and some way to dry the hands. There may be flowers. There are toilets. Each toilet is located in a stall. Usually, each stall has a door which can be secured from the inside. There's also toilet paper, trash cans and possibly a dispenser for sanitary napkins and tampons.
Unless a person is shitting, bent all the way over and their head pressed against the floor, there's no way to know who is shitting next to you. You can maybe see what shoes they are wearing. That's all. You can't tell whether they have a penis or vagina, whether they had one removed and the other installed, whether they have facial hair or 3 arms.
Unless the person in the next stall tries to crawl into the girl's stall, or, they try to reach through, or in some way engage in abnormal bathroom behavior, the girl will be just like you. She won't have a fucking clue what's going on in the next stall.
Now if you will excuse me, I need to go to the bathroom and I don't want to keep you from displaying your bigotry.
DontSayMuch
05-18-22, 03:10
I don't want to reply to a post that wasn't directed at me so I'll make one that addresses the topic in a more general way.
There have been trans people throughout history and they have figured out which bathroom and locker room works for them.
It seems that people who are against trans-women going to whatever facility that individual trans-woman wants to go into conveniently forget that if trans-women can't go to the facility of their choice, it also means that trans-men can't go into the facility of their choice.
So it's better to have a bearded trans-man who looks / acts / emotes as a man have to use the women's facilities? That doesn't make any sense to me and a lot of other people. And before anyone raises the impractical and non-real solution of making a dedicated trans bathroom, please think that through. Everywhere there are bathrooms will now be required to have a third type?
As far as trans people committing more violent acts than the general populace, I would really have to see some evidence for that.
I've read a Swedish paper that looks at this and it found =.
"The findings show that transsexual individuals were more likely to be criminal than non-transsexuals of the.
Same birth sex in the first cohort (1973-1988), and no different from their birth sex in the.
Second group (1989-2003)."
The first cohort (group) had hormones and surgery without adequate mental health provisions and the second cohort (group) had hormones and surgery with adequate mental health provisions.
So for the last forty years there hasn't been an increase in criminality from transgender individuals.
The study =.
Cecilia Dhejne, Paul Lichtenstein, Marcus Boman, Anna L. V. Johansson, Niklas.
Lεngstrφm, Mikael Landιand (2011) Long-Term Follow-Up of Transsexual Persons.
Undergoing Sex Reassignment Surgery: Cohort Study in Sweden.
Now there are a lot of statistics showing violence AGAINST trans people is MUCH higher than average.
I'm going to pick just one from as neutral a site as I can find.
https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/press/ncvs-trans-press-release/
The study found.
"Transgender people over four times more likely than cisgender people to be victims of violent crime".
I like looking at non-anecdotal evidence. A lot of studies have issues and they can be addressed and scrutinized, but one random person isn't much of an indicator of anything.
Let's not act like the dems are the saviors of the poor / middle class and the repubs are the party of the rich. This isn't a freshman polysci course at a university. Both parties rob the country blind, both do insider trading, get kick backs from lobbys and contractors, especially this joke of a bill sending 40 bill to Ukraine to be slushed around among oligarchs and used to buy up all the cheap assets in a semi failed state.
The religious angle of the repubs like tom cotton and crew is annoying, but at least they have some moral standards left. The dems are in a race to see who can be the most "progressive" aka discarding any traditional family values be it the nuclear family, gender norms, and all pushing all the minority "oppression" garbage.What does any of what you just posted have to do with my post you quoted? However, anyone who cannot see that the Republicans are the party of the rich is suffering from a pretty severe case of rectocranial insertion. Hello? Repeated tax cuts at the top of the brackets? Hello? Zero percent capital gains rates? Hello? Regressive taxation of SS and UI? Hello? Hello? Anybody home? Cutting food stamps? Hello?
you have to spend the money to get womenThere is absolutely no doubt in my mind that you have to spend money to get women. No doubt whatsoever at all.
Everywhere there are bathrooms will now be required to have a third type?
Only a thrid type? Why not a 4th type. One for trans men, one for trans women. And while we are at it, what about one for homosexuals and another for lesbians. And another 2 for ex-convicts. Men and women. How about one for scary black people. One for terrorist Muslims. The whole world is going to be turned in to a huge allotment of bathrooms for differetn monority groups that we do not like.
Mr Enternational
05-18-22, 19:18
"Transgender people over four times more likely than cisgender people to be victims of violent crime".That says something, but that says nothing. Do they generally know the people they are attacked by? Are people that are not in the LGBT community committing these violent crimes against trans or is is people from the LGBT community doing it? Why are they doing it? Is it because they just do not like the people or they have been deceived or maybe even had a crime committed against them by the trans person.
There are too many contributing factors, whereas the statement tries to get you to believe trans people are just walking down the street minding their own business and some stranger violently attacks them. The most abuse occurs in lesbian relationships, but if I just said lesbians are often violently attacked, it is not telling you they tend to be abused by their own mates and leads you to believe someone outside of their personal circle is doing the abusing or attacking. So are these trans having violence done to them purely because they are trans or is it for other reasons, and by whom?
Mr Enternational
05-18-22, 23:53
That says something, but that says nothing. Do they generally know the people they are attacked by? Are people that are not in the LGBT community committing these violent crimes against trans or is is people from the LGBT community doing it? Why are they doing it? Is it because they just do not like the people or they have been deceived or maybe even had a crime committed against them by the trans person.Yep. Good old fashioned 8 transvestite / transsexual robbing crew. Now if one of the victims would have knocked the shit out of one of these guys for trying to pick pocket them that would have been counted in the stats as violence against a trans.
https://www.h13n.com/ocho-mujeres-trans-carcel-hurto/108410/
Elvis 2008
05-19-22, 01:25
There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that you have to spend money to get women. No doubt whatsoever at all.And where were you when I was out fucking these women? Locked up in your house scared shitless of Covid. Why would I or anyone care what a cheap, drug taking, beer swilling, gutter dwelling coward thinks? You do not pay women money. You pay them with glue.
Webster's does not have to define loser in the dictionary. They can just show a picture of your face.
anyone who cannot see that the Republicans are the party of the rich is suffering from a pretty severe case of rectocranial insertion. Only people raised in the blinkered world of USA mainstream media would say such a obviously fallacious thing. The corrcet answer is "the Republicans are one of the parties of the rich ".
DF has taste...My comment is not about his taste or he is wrong about Colombia.
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The whole thing about the best sex was this. If you found a woman who could stop traffic, was great in bed, really nice, and totally devoted to you, do you think it is possible you would not stray? It was not an appropriate question to ask of men who hang out in the slums. That was my bad.I think the main difference is you want exclusivity and something more than physical sex. Most mongers are happier with sharing and just physical sex. Thanks for sharing.
GeneHickman
05-19-22, 03:33
Only people raised in the blinkered world of USA mainstream media would say such a obviously fallacious thing. The corrcet answer is "the Republicans are one of the parties of the rich ". An astute observation, and this has been true for decades now. The last effort to torpedo this might have been Ross Perot and he was rich too! LOL.
And where were you when I was out fucking these women? Locked up in your house scared shitless of Covid. Why would I or anyone care what a cheap, drug taking, beer swilling, gutter dwelling coward thinks? You do not pay women money. You pay them with glue.
Webster's does not have to define loser in the dictionary. They can just show a picture of your face.Glue? And I smoke pot so if that makes me a drug taker then so be it. Gutter? I think that's where you found the putas you 'fell in love' with. I bet your woman sticks her finger down her throat after every sex session with you.
Glue. Ja ja ja. No idea where that came from. But you can just continue to be morbidly obese and disgusting physically and I'll just, you know, get way more and better pussy than you do. And when I do pay for it, I will know what I am paying for. You find expensive hookers and think they like you. I find cheap hookers and don't care. I think you forget sometimes we've actually met, and so I know for sure how full of shit you are.
DontSayMuch
05-19-22, 06:18
That says something, but that says nothing. Do they generally know the people they are attacked by? Are people that are not in the LGBT community committing these violent crimes against trans or is is people from the LGBT community doing it? Why are they doing it? Is it because they just do not like the people or they have been deceived or maybe even had a crime committed against them by the trans person.
There are too many contributing factors, whereas the statement tries to get you to believe trans people are just walking down the street minding their own business and some stranger violently attacks them. The most abuse occurs in lesbian relationships, but if I just said lesbians are often violently attacked, it is not telling you they tend to be abused by their own mates and leads you to believe someone outside of their personal circle is doing the abusing or attacking. So are these trans having violence done to them purely because they are trans or is it for other reasons, and by whom?It could be that the violent offenders of trans people are from the LGBT community, but I don't see much evidence of that. That's not saying there isn't any, I just haven't seen it. I look forward to you supplying evidence and I will read any peer reviewed study you link.
The point I was putting emphasis on was that trans people are not more prone to violence than the rest of the public.
DontSayMuch
05-19-22, 06:27
Yep. Good old fashioned 8 transvestite / transsexual robbing crew. Now if one of the victims would have knocked the shit out of one of these guys for trying to pick pocket them that would have been counted in the stats as violence against a trans.
https://www.h13n.com/ocho-mujeres-trans-carcel-hurto/108410/.I also wish that the criminals received karmic justice. But do you kinda see how this anecdotal evidence doesn't refute the point that trans people aren't more violent than the rest of society? It would be like showing a video of a chicken beating up a hawk and generalizing that chickens are the real avian aggressors.
I'll link to the video of that happening because it's kinda funny. (No animals were really hurt).
Actually I'm not sure if I'll run a foul (LOL) if I post that kinda video so if anyone wants to see it just google:
Chicken beats an Eagle.
Only a thrid type? Why not a 4th type. One for trans men, one for trans women. And while we are at it, what about one for homosexuals and another for lesbians. And another 2 for ex-convicts. Men and women. How about one for scary black people. One for terrorist Muslims. The whole world is going to be turned in to a huge allotment of bathrooms for differetn monority groups that we do not like.Many places already have a third type, a large private bathroom for families or for people who need assistance.
I've just never understood the bathroom panic, but I've heard the same "logic" applied to different groups throughout my life. One of the hazards of growing up where racism and bigotry are considered to be virtues.
It all begins with "they're not like us."
"You have to watch out for the 'colored'. They're not like us."
"You can't go to church with him. He's Catholic and they're not like us."
"Don't talk to those men. They're homosexuals and they're not like us."
"Your friend can't spend the night. He's Amish and they're not like us."
"Those men are Jewish. They're not like us."
Now it's "they're Democrat / Republican. They're not like us.
Pick a label and someone is telling us "be afraid. They're not like us."
If someone is threatening me, the color of their skin, religion, ethnicity, sexual orientation, immigration status or gender identity doesn't matter. I'm not thinking "he won't hurt me because he's a straight, white Protestant from the midwest." I'm certainly not thinking "this is serious because that guy is wearing lipstick. " A threat is a threat, regardless of how you label the person.
The threat doesn't come from the groups people want you to label. It comes from individuals and from the people who want you to put labels on everyone.
That says something, but that says nothing. Do they generally know the people they are attacked by? Are people that are not in the LGBT community committing these violent crimes against trans or is is people from the LGBT community doing it? Why are they doing it? Is it because they just do not like the people or they have been deceived or maybe even had a crime committed against them by the trans person.
There are too many contributing factors, whereas the statement tries to get you to believe trans people are just walking down the street minding their own business and some stranger violently attacks them. The most abuse occurs in lesbian relationships, but if I just said lesbians are often violently attacked, it is not telling you they tend to be abused by their own mates and leads you to believe someone outside of their personal circle is doing the abusing or attacking. So are these trans having violence done to them purely because they are trans or is it for other reasons, and by whom?That gets complicated. Here's a place to start:
https://www.fbi.gov/news/press-releases/press-releases/fbi-releases-updated-2020-hate-crime-statistics
To get some perspective, let's roll the calendar back about 65-70 years.
Today the hot equal rights issue is for trans people. That's why any of us are discussing this. Back in the 50's and early 60's, the big equal rights issue was for blacks. Same issue, different group who felt the laws didn't treat them equally and fairly.
You may have learned, during that time, some black people were the victims of violence. Some claimed they were discriminated against. Some claimed that segregation laws were wrong. Many white people argued that black people needed to be segregated, that they couldn't be allowed to integrate with whites. And I'm sure there were some who questioned whether or not the black on black crime wasn't more important than a few friendly lynchings.
Just something to consider.
this has been true for decades now. The last effort to torpedo this might have been Ross Perot.TBH I don't know much at all about him. Obv Bernie S would have been a great choice for the people, but he got torpedoed bcos he is not electable as a head of the Dem Party (for that very reason). Al Gore might have done well, although who knows how he would have reacted to the pressures from big money. And Jim Carter. What a great guy he has turned into! Sounds to be a real hero these days, but was a different person when he was president unfortunately.
There are a few that I have noted in the Dem Party, but they are far away from leadership at this stage ... and most are groomed and turn in to corporate shills as they rise thru the ranks. It's actually a good motivation for independence of the states - then there would be more opportunity for real progressive politicians to do something tangibly good.
An astute observation, and this has been true for decades now. The last effort to torpedo this might have been Ross Perot and he was rich too! LOL.The purpose of any group ultimately becomes the wealth and power of that group, particularly the wealth and power of the leaders. This holds true for all groups, from your local homeowners association, to your unions, to your political parties. Each group works to enrich and empower itself.
Democrats and Republicans use different tactics, and each group feels their methods are right and the others are wrong. Some individuals in each party are altruistic, they honestly believe they're working to make things better, but they're just there to be the poster child.
In the end, your choice in the matter makes no more difference than choosing your method of execution.
Elvis 2008
05-19-22, 16:21
My comment is not about his taste or he is wrong about Colombia.I know. It was about his negativity. I think it was justified.
I think the main difference is you want exclusivity and something more than physical sex. Most mongers are happier with sharing and just physical sex. Thanks for sharing.Again, you are missing the point. I thought there was no way in hell I could be happy with one woman. I thought monogamy was a scam to keep man from his real nature. The best sex for me was going from woman to woman, and I was looking for the best sex. If that is not the goal of all mongers, I do not know what is. What stunned me was the best sex I have ever had came with monogamy.
Every relationship I have been in the women tail off sexually after a few months, and it is not just me. Studies have shown desire goes way down in both sexes in a relationship but with women it goes down much more quickly. To me, it is like, "Oh, I have got you now. I do not have to try in bed anymore. " So for me, if that is always the case, then why bother ever committing? So I kept women in a position where if they do not perform, I get rid of them. None of my sugar babies ever said "No sex tonight. I have a headache. ", yet women wanted all the fruits of a relationship even if they did not perform.
Huacho is a terd because he thinks women want him because he is in shape. He thinks beauty queens should want guys like him instead of me. He thinks it is all money, but it is not. All money does is attract. His little ego cannot take the notion that my game and character trump his physique. Thing about having a good physique is women like to think a strong man can protect them, but who cares if the the guy with a good physique is a paranoid coward?
Mr. E's comment is on point. Look at all these beautiful women and the guys who strayed. I get where he is coming from, and it justifies the monger POV of polyamory. The issue I have with it is if you look at it from a sexual POV, we do not know if say Beyonce was a good lover. She probably was. But Beyonce is not really yours. There was a good Netflix show called the Baker and the Beauty that touched on the issue. Everyone wanted the beauty's time.
Let's say Beyonce is great in bed, the best in bed. How many guys are really going to be sexually satisfied with her in a monogamous relationship? I doubt I would be. She is going to be so exhausted after performing for everyone else I doubt she would have the energy to care about performing and satisfying me.
And I have been with women from the top places: Playboy, Penthouse, breasturant calendar girls. A lot of them thought all they had to do was show up. I will never forget a Penthouse Pet who was horrible in bed.
What guys do not get with Ms. Cartagena is she runs her own charity and was doing physiology problems when I met her, so she was quality beyond just the looks. We had sex bareback and she was pretty good but then later that night she was ordering me around, "I want you to shower, shave, brush your teeth, and then get back into bed with me. " I do that and she is asleep. I called a different girl and was talking with her, and Ms. Cartagena heard me and stormed out of the hotel room.
She later told me that she was in love with me and it bothered her when I was talking to someone else. My comment when she said she loved me was "Well, that is nice, but I never promised you I would be exclusive. " She apologized and wanted me to see me again, but I never did. I do not give a fuck if you are Ms. Cartagena. If you do not sexually satisfy me, I am not going to commit, and I doubted she ever would satisfy me.
So to Mr. E's point with all these great women, were the women in all these cases sexually satisfying the men? My guess is more likely than not the answer is no. I wish some of the men would actually say that. When the woman says "You cheated on me", and the guy says "How would you expect any guy to not stray given your performance?" I am so sick and tired of men being shamed for their sexual desire.
So I disagree with you Nounce. I think mongers want great sex. I just think they have not found it in a monogamy relationship and given the way most women behave that belief is justified.
Huacho is a terd because he thinks women want him because he is in shape. He thinks beauty queens should want guys like him instead of me. He thinks it is all money, but it is not. Oh no. I am under no illusions that the women I pay 'want' me. You're the one who thinks that. But my body is not an instant turn off. It's true there is a segment of the female population that prefers big guys but for every one of those, there are at least ten who are completely turned off by that big fat belly coming at them. And you would never have the guts to call me a coward to my face.
Oh no. I am under no illusions that the women I pay 'want' me. You're the one who thinks that. But my body is not an instant turn off. It's true there is a segment of the female population that prefers big guys but for every one of those, there are at least ten who are completely turned off by that big fat belly coming at them. And you would never have the guts to call me a coward to my face.And it's all the worse when that big fat belly comes with a foul personality, in someone like Elvis who builds his life around arguing with strangers day after day in a monger forum. I'm sure that his momma is very proud.
Also when I insult somebody, I spell the insult correctly. Terd indeed. Fucken cerote.
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Every relationship...This post has substance and I know you have great sex but I still don't know what it is. I think if I am going to commit to a single woman, she will have to be my equal and not dependent on me. I still don't think she can provide me better sex than a trained sex worker that potentially knows my body better than myself. I also don't like the woman tell me to shower and stuff, and I will not tell her that either.
Actually I am not sure if Elvis and I are so far apart right now. He says he is having the best sex of his life and I would say the same. I kind of found a perfect unicorn hooker and while it does not make me monogamous, I'm mostly too old and lazy to bother with anyone else. She comes over, we have some food and foreplay, then we blaze up, then we fuck, then I cook for her. Then we might fuck again, or not, and then I walk her three blocks home. I've had fellatio from oh say 500 women and this one is the best in recent memory. We met while living in the same building during COVID lockdowns. So I knew her as friend and neighbor before she revealed herself to be a hooker. Kind of a fluke and most people won't find their neighbor lady wanting to fuck for money.
Mr Enternational
05-20-22, 12:34
I think if I am going to commit to a single woman, she will have to be my equal and not dependent on me.Exactly. And she better be smart as fuck. But I understand some people need to feel needed, and that usually does not come in an equal.
I also don't like the woman tell me to shower and stuff, and I will not tell her that either.Seriously? I have been out with some Latin American women all day then at night they want to climb their dirty ass between the sheets saying they took a shower that morning. No way Josefina. You better hop your ass in the shower before you get into this clean bed. I don't play that shit.
Also when I insult somebody, I spell the insult correctly. Terd indeed. Fucken cerote.That's not how one spells carrot.
Actually I am not sure if Elvis and I are so far apart right now. He says he is having the best sex of his life and I would say the same. I kind of found a perfect unicorn hooker and while it does not make me monogamous, I'm mostly too old and lazy to bother with anyone else. She comes over, we have some food and foreplay, then we blaze up, then we fuck, then I cook for her. Then we might fuck again, or not, and then I walk her three blocks home. I've had fellatio from oh say 500 women and this one is the best in recent memory. We met while living in the same building during COVID lockdowns. So I knew her as friend and neighbor before she revealed herself to be a hooker. Kind of a fluke and most people won't find their neighbor lady wanting to fuck for money.This sounds like a soft pull hooker to me. There was something she found attractive about you so she decided you were worth it and she could make some money while doing so.
This sounds like a soft pull hooker to me. There was something she found attractive about you so she decided you were worth it and she could make some money while doing so.She was / is financially desperate and did / does not want to go back to her own country but she was a hooker there too. I don't think she has any other regular clients here and she wasn't hooking when we were living in the same building. But she's been a hooker for a lot of her life. She'll probably hit menopause soon and then I'll be done with her. Might get two more years out of it (it's been almost two years now we've been seeing each other). Nice gal. Not Latina though, unfortunately.
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Seriously? I have been out with some Latin American women all day then at night they want to climb their dirty ass between the sheets saying they took a shower that morning. No way Josefina. You better hop your ass in the shower before you get into this clean bed. I don't play that shit.I won't sweat the little things if I am in a committed relationship and she has to tolerate me too.
MarquisdeSade1
05-21-22, 17:51
Only a thrid type? Why not a 4th type. One for trans men, one for trans women. And while we are at it, what about one for homosexuals and another for lesbians. And another 2 for ex-convicts. Men and women. How about one for scary black people. One for terrorist Muslims. The whole world is going to be turned in to a huge allotment of bathrooms for differetn monority groups that we do not like.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMBzfUj5zsg
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/10/magazine/phalloplasty.html?fbclid=IwAR1OnSZnDpB9qwJjHrJ4GLH71Ez6nE1VK97JuCbIwWfXJbsZ8VcK8fRTJhg
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/10/magazine/breast-reduction-feminism.html
Elvis 2008
05-23-22, 18:07
And you would never have the guts to call me a coward to my face.Yeah, I would and then I would follow it up with "I have Coviid" and then watch your cowardly ass go hide in the corner and mutter to yourself, "I do not want to die". That is what you did for 2 years you fucking pussy so you do not get to mouth off about how tough you are, you POS fucking coward.
MarquisdeSade1
05-24-22, 01:30
That's not how one spells carrot.https://www.aol.com/news/expert-monkeypox-likely-spread-sex-092239103-161733113.html
Be careful out there.
DontSayMuch
05-24-22, 02:15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMBzfUj5zsg
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/10/magazine/phalloplasty.html?fbclid=IwAR1OnSZnDpB9qwJjHrJ4GLH71Ez6nE1VK97JuCbIwWfXJbsZ8VcK8fRTJhg
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/10/magazine/breast-reduction-feminism.htmlThere are some things I don't agree with him on but for the most part, I agree with what he's saying.
I don't think that negates the points in favor of supporting trans rights.
Saying you don't think minors should undergo irreversible procedures isn't the same as saying trans rights should be treated equally.
MarquisdeSade1
05-24-22, 18:38
There are some things I don't agree with him on but for the most part, I agree with what he's saying.
I don't think that negates the points in favor of supporting trans rights.
Saying you don't think minors should undergo irreversible procedures isn't the same as saying trans rights should be treated equally.The "seriously mentally ill" SMI aka bat shit crazy should have special legal protections?
DontSayMuch
05-25-22, 00:00
The "seriously mentally ill" SMI aka bat shit crazy should have special legal protections?I don't think trans people have a greater likelihood of being seriously mentally ill than other groups, but I haven't seen studies on this.
They don't have special legal protections, I'm in favor of them choosing the facilities (bathrooms, changing rooms, locker room, etc.) that they've identified as.
To me a trans person is just a person whose brain is in the wrong body. Like if I put my guy brain in a woman's body. There would be a huge cognitive dissonance there.
To me a trans person is just a person whose brain is in the wrong body. Like if I put my guy brain in a woman's body. There would be a huge cognitive dissonance there.Okay, so would you then take hormones and / or mutilate yourself or would you find a way to deal with the hand you were dealt? Just some food for thought. Also I think it would be callow not to recognize that this 'trans' stuff is now hip and trending, and is a good way to get attention.
I don't think trans people have a greater likelihood of being seriously mentally ill than other groups, but I haven't seen studies on this.
They don't have special legal protections,
To me a trans person is just a person whose brain is in the wrong body. Like if I put my guy brain in a woman's body. There would be a huge cognitive dissonance there.Facts and logic are wasted on MdS. He will just ignore them and continue to spread his unsupported nonsense.
MarquisdeSade1
05-25-22, 18:38
Facts and logic are wasted on MdS. He will just ignore them and continue to spread his unsupported nonsense.I don't go to MDE to fuck men, so I'm anti mental illness!
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/10/magazine/phalloplasty.html
Just because these things were taken out of the DSM doesn't mean they still don't belong there!!
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/10/magazine/phalloplasty.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/10/magazine/phalloplasty.html
I thought ISG was supposed to be for hetero only? Im guessing you can find some gay/trans mongering forums somewhere else instead of trying
to polllute ISG with your psychotic nonsense!!
Mr Enternational
05-25-22, 19:04
To me a trans person is just a person whose brain is in the wrong body. Like if I put my guy brain in a woman's body. There would be a huge cognitive dissonance there.This makes no sense at all. It is like you can't miss what you never had. How would you know what it feels like to be a man if you have never been a man? You can only assume you feel like what a man feels like. Can someone actually describe what it feels like to be a man and someone says yes that is how I feel? I doubt it. Being a man or woman is one of those things that just is.
And what if social constructs like clothing were reversed? If women traditionally wore pants and men wore dresses and if makeup was not a thing? Or if men traditionally wore long hair and women wore short hair? Or everybody wore the same type clothing? Would those men that say they feel like women be in pants without makeup and with short hair? There would be no disguising the outside then and less unwitting people would mistake them for the opposite sex they were born as.
I don't go to MDE to fuck men, so I'm anti mental illness!
I thought ISG was supposed to be for hetero only? Im guessing you can find some gay/trans mongering forums somewhere else instead of trying to polllute ISG with your psychotic nonsense!!See what I mean DSM?
How would you know what it feels like to be a man if you have never been a man? You can only assume you feel like what a man feels like. Can someone actually describe what it feels like to be a man and someone says yes that is how I feel? I doubt it. Being a man or woman is one of those things that just is..Your reasoning is self-defeating here mr E. How would any man know that what he feels is to be a man is the same as any other feels. You can never know inside the mind of anyone else. We simply accept it based on the evidence as it presents itself.
I don't go to MDE to fuck men, so I'm anti mental illness!
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/10/magazine/phalloplasty.html
Just because these things were taken out of the DSM doesn't mean they still don't belong there!!
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/10/magazine/phalloplasty.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/10/magazine/phalloplasty.html
I thought ISG was supposed to be for hetero only? Im guessing you can find some gay/trans mongering forums somewhere else instead of trying
to polllute ISG with your psychotic nonsense!!You don't go to Medellin. Period. End of sentence.
Countless times you've tried to pretend to have visited Medellin and you've failed miserably by not knowing things every visitor knows and by stating things which are false.
If you're anti mental illness why are you constantly here pretending to visit places where you've never been and will never go? If you truly were anti mental illness, you would get treatment for your own.
ISG is for the aid of people who travel internationally to have sex with women. Since you don't travel internationally it's not for you.
Some of the people who travel internationally to have sex with women aren't strictly hetero. At least on one of the forums there used to be a bisexual woman that posted. I'm sure there are bi men here as well.
If what other people might be doing in a country you've never visited, and never will visit, bothers you so much, go upstairs and watch the Hallmark channel with your mother.
Okay, so would you then take hormones and / or mutilate yourself or would you find a way to deal with the hand you were dealt? Just some food for thought. Also I think it would be callow not to recognize that this 'trans' stuff is now hip and trending, and is a good way to get attention.Thats exactly what dysphoria is huacho. Some don't suffer from it very much, and don't go for treatment, others do and feel they must undergo treatment.
Surely, its no different to a CIS woman that gets plastic surgery, or anyone that get surgery to "correct" what they feel is a "fault". Or even tattoos, or guys that feel inadequate unless they go to the gym and take steroids to look big. Many people take action to "correct" what they feel is a shortcoming / fault.
There is no need to see this as any different.
Mr Enternational
05-25-22, 22:33
Your reasoning is self-defeating here mr E. How would any man know that what he feels is to be a man is the same as any other feels. You can never know inside the mind of anyone else. We simply accept it based on the evidence as it presents itself.That is exactly my point. So how can they feel like a man inside (or have the brain of a man as DSM put it) but have the body of a female, or vice versa?
So I'm a normal every day guy which I recently found out means I am a "CIS male" or some such nonsense. At my local bar, the alleged men's room has one open toilet and is dirty and full of empty beer cases. The alleged women's room is a lot cleaner, has no stinky empties, and has two toilets in cubicles. Men go in there all the time and guess what happens? Nothing. Why not stop thinking about bathrooms and start thinking about gun laws? Just sayin'.
I don't go to MDE to fuck men, so I'm anti mental illness!
I thought ISG was supposed to be for hetero only? Im guessing you can find some gay/trans mongering forums somewhere else instead of trying
to polllute ISG with your psychotic nonsense!!And I thought the Medellin & Stupid Shit in Medellin ISG forums were for people who have actually been here and have something to contribute. But that sure doesn't seem to stop you.
That is exactly my point. So how can they feel like a man inside (or have the brain of a man as DSM put it) but have the body of a female, or vice versa?The point is that their feeling is just as valid as mine or yours when we say we feel like a man. None of it can be really validated.
So I'm a normal every day guy which I recently found out means I am a "CIS male" or some such nonsense. '.Welcome to the 21st century.
Welcome to the 21st century.Yeah, he is MeenieWeenie PaTreeArKeeeee. #WaaahhHHhhhhhhhh.
DontSayMuch
05-27-22, 04:26
I don't go to MDE to fuck men, so I'm anti mental illness!
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/10/magazine/phalloplasty.html
Just because these things were taken out of the DSM doesn't mean they still don't belong there!!
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/10/magazine/phalloplasty.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/10/magazine/phalloplasty.html
I thought ISG was supposed to be for hetero only? Im guessing you can find some gay/trans mongering forums somewhere else instead of trying
to polllute ISG with your psychotic nonsense!!This is baffling stupid. Why would you care why or where someone goes on vacation?
I thought ISG was for people planning on mongering internationally, and this specific forum for people who wanted to discuss stupid shit.
DontSayMuch
05-27-22, 04:28
This makes no sense at all. It is like you can't miss what you never had. How would you know what it feels like to be a man if you have never been a man? You can only assume you feel like what a man feels like. Can someone actually describe what it feels like to be a man and someone says yes that is how I feel? I doubt it. Being a man or woman is one of those things that just is.
And what if social constructs like clothing were reversed? If women traditionally wore pants and men wore dresses and if makeup was not a thing? Or if men traditionally wore long hair and women wore short hair? Or everybody wore the same type clothing? Would those men that say they feel like women be in pants without makeup and with short hair? There would be no disguising the outside then and less unwitting people would mistake them for the opposite sex they were born as.I'm not sure I understand where you're coming from. If you never traveled and yet wanted to see the world you would want it. Same thing with being a slave all your life, you'd want freedom even if you've never had it. You can desire something you've never had.
I think there is more to my perception of being a man than the social constructs around masculinity. I wear men's clothing because I feel part of a group that wears men's clothing. I think the same thing happens with trans-men. They feel like they are part of that group and don't have a body that matches their belief of who they are.
In the end I don't want to tell trans people what they can / can't do, either by government enacting laws or even voicing disapproval. If someone wants to undergo radical surgery that's fine with me. You can swing your fist as long as you don't impact another.
Where there's some gray area for me is sports and medical procedures done on minors.
There isn't any gray area for me on what facilities a trans-person chooses to use or what they do with themselves or other consenting adults.
I'm not sure I understand where you're coming from. If you never traveled and yet wanted to see the world you would want it. Same thing with being a slave all your life, you'd want freedom even if you've never had it. You can desire something you've never had.
I think there is more to my perception of being a man than the social constructs around masculinity. I wear men's clothing because I feel part of a group that wears men's clothing. I think the same thing happens with trans-men. They feel like they are part of that group and don't have a body that matches their belief of who they are.
In the end I don't want to tell trans people what they can / can't do, either by government enacting laws or even voicing disapproval. If someone wants to undergo radical surgery that's fine with me. You can swing your fist as long as you don't impact another.
Where there's some gray area for me is sports and medical procedures done on minors.
There isn't any gray area for me on what facilities a trans-person chooses to use or what they do with themselves or other consenting adults.Some of the stuff they are doing to young children before they are even psychologically developed is a travesty. Save all that shit until they are least 18 yo, and not because of some misguided, warped perception by parents with possible secondary agendas.
Watch out for post election violence. There have been threats against the leftist guy who was currently leading the polls. I guess it's both candidates are put up by the same people to give the illusion of choice but who knows.
Mr Enternational
05-27-22, 23:14
I'm not sure I understand where you're coming from. If you never traveled and yet wanted to see the world you would want it. Same thing with being a slave all your life, you'd want freedom even if you've never had it. You can desire something you've never had.To desire and to miss something are two different things. There is a saying that goes be careful what you wish for because you just might get it. Sometimes people wish for or desire things and they have absolutely no idea what it entails or what would be the responsibilities that go along with that which they are wishing for.
How many times have you said if I had that girl then I would be on my P.S. And qs and do everything right for the rest of my life. Then you get that girl and you fuck it up or she is not what you expected? After the fact you realize you desired something in your life that you really did not need or want after all. Sure you can desire what you never had, but you certainly can not miss it. In order to miss something you have to had experienced it before.
JackTaggart
05-28-22, 01:23
Watch out for post election violence. There have been threats against the leftist guy who was currently leading the polls. I guess it's both candidates are put up by the same people to give the illusion of choice but who knows.Got to love the US state department. They sent out an alert about the election with some common sense info about avoiding demonstrations. And specifically calling out that there are no booze sales Sat 4 pm to Mon 12 pm. Thanks Uncle Sam! Helping us avoid getting hurt by someone else while helping us make sure we can hurt ourselves.
GringoTigre
05-28-22, 06:25
Got to love the US state department. They sent out an alert about the election with some common sense info about avoiding demonstrations. And specifically calling out that there are no booze sales Sat 4 pm to Mon 12 pm. Thanks Uncle Sam! Helping us avoid getting hurt by someone else while helping us make sure we can hurt ourselves.Not just US state departments. It's pretty much standard practice for most embassies, major foregn employers, NGOs. A few major NGOs forbid their in country employees to travel outside of major cities +/- 3 days of both election dates. Which is pretty stupid advice because it's far more likely there will be violence in cities than remote areas.
In cities, just chill in the bubble of security areas (northern chapinero, some of usaquen). Not a good time to go to candelaria.
Also, I disagree that if Petro wins there will be a larger chance of violence. I think actually there will be MORE violence if he doesn't.
If the leftist guy wins then the US will sanction Colombia as they did Venezuela and you may have an increase in the P4P industry here. More and more girls would seek to please gringos for pesos.No they won't. The US doesn't care who wins. Now if whoever wins threatens US Corporate income, then expect sanctions.
DontSayMuch
05-29-22, 00:39
To desire and to miss something are two different things. There is a saying that goes be careful what you wish for because you just might get it. Sometimes people wish for or desire things and they have absolutely no idea what it entails or what would be the responsibilities that go along with that which they are wishing for.
How many times have you said if I had that girl then I would be on my P.S. And qs and do everything right for the rest of my life. Then you get that girl and you fuck it up or she is not what you expected? After the fact you realize you desired something in your life that you really did not need or want after all. Sure you can desire what you never had, but you certainly can not miss it. In order to miss something you have to had experienced it before.Yes, I agree that there's a difference between miss and desire. I don't think I used the word "miss" though and if I did I made an error in semantics. To paraphrase what another boardmemeber said, you can't know what is in the mind of another person. He said it better though. Ultimately we can't know what another person is thinking and in this instance we really don't need to, it's their decision.
Just like how some women get huge implants in their boobs or butt. I think it's crazy and a dumb decision, but it's their decision to make. And to continue that train of thought, some of the really extreme body modifications I'm not too pleased share a bathroom with my 7 year old daughter. That's the price we pay for a free society though.
Mr Enternational
05-29-22, 02:48
Yes, I agree that there's a difference between miss and desire. I don't think I used the word "miss" though and if I did I made an error in semantics. To paraphrase what another boardmemeber said, you can't know what is in the mind of another person. He said it better though. Ultimately we can't know what another person is thinking and in this instance we really don't need to, it's their decision.Definitely their decision. But it is probably safe to reason that the guy is thinking his life would be much better if he gets tits and chops his dick off, and a woman is thinking her life would be much better if she chops her boobs off and get a dick built. But that is probably very far from the truth. It is like the saying that money does not change people, it just magnifies who they already are.
Well getting sexual reassignment will not change a person, and I think they find that out once they have the surgery. They are the same person except they have done surgeries. I think that is why there is a high suicide rate among that group. They were expecting to be something they never were or could have been in the first place and were extremely disappointed after going through all that BS to find there was no magic at the end of the process. They are still that dude that is not a chick or that chick that is not a dude.
NorthernLight
05-29-22, 03:52
No they won't. The US doesn't care who wins. Now if whoever wins threatens US Corporate income, then expect sanctions.I agree. Argentina, Chile, Peru, Bolivia, Venezuela are all running by leftist parties. Brazil will likely elect Lula again. Only Venezuela is sanctioned by US.
LatinaLover#1
05-29-22, 10:40
Chavez / Maduro are / were not just leftist, they are communist and nationalized the oil industry, etc. I doubt that the US would do anything if it is merely a leftist government elected. Lots of places have that and are not sanctioned, etc.This guy is very dangerous, he is very active in the poor and uneducated barrios selling his free this and free that bullshit. And blaming the educated elite of Colombia for everything. Just say the "Squad".
Just say Biden and the left here and you see the damage they are capable of doing. At least here there is some controlling the left in Colombia they will have free reign.
If they lose look out, they will not go quietly, the protest and violence will be out of control.
"The goal of socialism is communism. ".
Vladimir Lenin.
Definitely their decision. But it is probably safe to reason that the guy is thinking his life would be much better if he gets tits and chops his dick off, and a woman is thinking her life would be much better if she chops her boobs off and get a dick built. But that is probably very far from the truth. It is like the saying that money does not change people, it just magnifies who they already are.
Well getting sexual reassignment will not change a person, and I think they find that out once they have the surgery. They are the same person except they have done surgeries. I think that is why there is a high suicide rate among that group. They were expecting to be something they never were or could have been in the first place and were extremely disappointed after going through all that BS to find there was no magic at the end of the process. They are still that dude that is not a chick or that chick that is not a dude.Recent studies show that going through the surgery significantly improves mental health and greatly reduces suicide rates.
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamasurgery/article-abstract/2779429
Throughout history, every marginalized group has had a higher than normal suicide rate. Once the group is accepted by society, the numbers go down.
This guy is very dangerous, he is very active in the poor and uneducated barrios selling his free this and free that bullshit. And blaming the educated elite of Colombia for everything. Just say the "Squad".
Just say Biden and the left here and you see the damage they are capable of doing. At least here there is some controlling the left in Colombia they will have free reign.
If they lose look out, they will not go quietly, the protest and violence will be out of control.
"The goal of socialism is communism. ".
Vladimir Lenin.Load of nonsense, honestly. First. Biden's done basically nothing. Increased police and military budgets, continued trump's policies, maintained a conservative majority on the court. He's basically a republican with a the mask on.
Remember campaigning is just a load of bullshit. Think student loan cancellation, federal marijuana decriminalization, etc. It's the same here.
These leftists talk a huge game. Their heart is in the right place, with the working class / poor people. Then they realize the system is impossible to make any real improvements or do anything that actually helps. And the country just stalls out until the next election. As does the economy. Petro is great for us. The left is great for us mongers. It'll mean a weaker peso against the dollar. We don't want good leadership, we don't want someone who'll turn Colombia into a first world country. Even if they have a bad policies towards prostitution. So what? It's illegal in the US and that certainly doesn't change anything.
IMO, Fico is the real danger. If you look at who the 1%'ers in Colombia support. That's the person who's going to mean a strong peso and expensive mongering trips for us.
Rant aside:
Cra14 78-22. New "massage" casa with about 10 girls when I went today. Mostly in the 5-6 range, but they're young. Mostly average, the kind you'd see walking around in Chapinero after university closes.
30 min he massage is 70 mil. Hour's 150, with sex. Hour with multiple pops 230.
You can typically get the hour with multiple pops for 120-150 with independents.
That said. It's cheap (compared to Absolut) for the area if you prefer a safe location instead of an incall / outcall.
I'd repeat if I were close by, only for the 30 min rate.
Elvis 2008
05-29-22, 23:10
Just like how some women get huge implants in their boobs or butt. I think it's crazy and a dumb decision, but it's their decision to make.Yeah, I do not care either but the question is who is paying for it? If it is that person, that is fine. When you start saying these elective surgeries are life saving and thus society should pay for it, I think that is bothersome to a lot of people.
I'm not too pleased share a bathroom with my 7 year old daughter. That's the price we pay for a free society though.Yeah, but people with dicks were never allowed in women's locker rooms or bathrooms and again that is where the controversy is. I might be uncomfortable with a woman who thinks she is a man in my locker room, but with women, I think there is a safety issue the other way around. Outside of those few concerns, though, I do not give a fuck. People can like, do, fuck whatever. I don't care.
To me, where it gets interesting is likes and taste and especially in porn. It is funny how the argument that "you should watch male homosexual gay porn for mind expansion" has never been expressed that I am aware of. And yet there has been an incredible expansion with regards to the races and ages in porn.
It is weird though. I can love shows like Modern Family and Will and Grace but with the show the Amazing Race, it got to the point where I felt like the homosexual couples were being force down my throat and it was like, "Okay, that is enough guys. ", and that was not the only time.
I had been binging on dating shows lately on Netflix. One of the better ones was MTV's "Are you the one?" where men and women try to find their one true match as picked out by expert matchmakers. If everyone finds their match, everyone splits $1 million.
I loved this show and then they did a gay / trans version, and I could not even watch one episode. One (s) he person proclaims him / herself to be pansexual but if you want to find that one special someone, you are a monogamous pansexual? Not only can I not relate to the pansexual, I think a monogamous pansexual is a crock of shit. I get that reality shows are edited and not entirely honest, but this was just too much bullshit for me to swallow, and I could not relate.
It's that concept of being force fed something, being told I ought to be open minded enough to watch something that I kind of draw the line. I had a white friend who just went on and on about Tyler Perry, so we go to a live TP show and we are literally like the only white people there. Honestly, I was a little uncomfortable but that feeling soon faded because it was so fucking hilarious. Instead of whining about not enough blacks in movies or TV, this guy creates a product sold to a mostly black audience and became a billionaire.
So just like no one forces me to watch gay or trans porn, why should I have to deal with trannie love stories? Instead of guilting their way into mainstream shows, I wish they would develop their own and let us enter your world versus their forcing their way into ours. Maybe in the next 20 years, we will see a trannie billionaire catering to trannie audiences, and I will be telling my straight friends, "You got to see this trannie show."
Prelude141
05-30-22, 11:51
Load of nonsense, honestly. First. Biden's done basically nothing. Increased police and military budgets, continued trump's policies, maintained a conservative majority on the court. He's basically a republican with a the mask on.
Remember campaigning is just a load of bullshit. Think student loan cancellation, federal marijuana decriminalization, etc. It's the same here.
These leftists talk a huge game. Their heart is in the right place, with the working class / poor people. Then they realize the system is impossible to make any real improvements or do anything that actually helps. And the country just stalls out until the next election. As does the economy. Petro is great for us. The left is great for us mongers. It'll mean a weaker peso against the dollar. We don't want good leadership, we don't want someone who'll turn Colombia into a first world country. Even if they have a bad policies towards prostitution. So what? It's illegal in the US and that certainly doesn't change anything.
IMO, Fico is the real danger. If you look at who the 1%'ers in Colombia support. That's the person who's going to mean a strong peso and expensive mongering trips for us..A left progressivist government has never been good for mongering activities, sooner or later there will be a deep cleaning of prostitution places, massages parlor, 'clubs, casas. It did happen every where the progressist have taken control. Colombia is soon a dead place for mongering so enjoy it now because if's soon over.
LatinaLover#1
05-30-22, 14:12
Load of nonsense, honestly. First. Biden's done basically nothing. Increased police and military budgets, continued trump's policies, maintained a conservative majority on the court. He's basically a republican with a the mask on.
Remember campaigning is just a load of bullshit. Think student loan cancellation, federal marijuana decriminalization, etc. It's the same here.
These leftists talk a huge game. Their heart is in the right place, with the working class / poor people. Then they realize the system is impossible to make any real improvements or do anything that actually helps. And the country just stalls out until the next election. As does the economy. Petro is great for us. The left is great for us mongers. It'll mean a weaker peso against the dollar. We don't want good leadership, we don't want someone who'll turn Colombia into a first world country. Even if they have a bad policies towards prostitution. So what? It's illegal in the US and that certainly doesn't change anything.
IMO, Fico is the real danger. If you look at who the 1%'ers in Colombia support. That's the person who's going to mean a strong peso and expensive mongering trips for us.
Rant aside:
Cra14 78-22. New "massage" casa with about 10 girls when I went today. Mostly in the 5-6 range, but they're young. Mostly average, the kind you'd see walking around in Chapinero after university closes.
30 min he massage is 70 mil. Hour's 150, with sex. Hour with multiple pops 230.
You can typically get the hour with multiple pops for 120-150 with independents.
That said. It's cheap (compared to Absolut) for the area if you prefer a safe location instead of an incall / outcall.
I'd repeat if I were close by, only for the 30 min rate.As far as the left's heart is in the right place is true, true for the grunts that are carrying the water for the party leaders. However, the leaders could care less about the masses. In every instance the everyday citizens in every country where the socialist have control, NOTHING is better for them. Socialism is the incubation for Communism, another colossal failure. And Biden. Jaja por favor, where do I start.
Inflation, crime, gas prices, border chaos shortages etc, etc, etc. All of which happened once he / his controlling handlers took over. But I regress. This is not about politics in the USA. It's about the wonderful people of Colombia who I have grown to love.
Keeping it about Colombia. Many Colombians have a very difficult life, working for slave wages, the dangers they are exposed to everyday on the bus / transmilenio in an effort just to get home from work is very sad, spending 6/7000 pesos on transport a day, just to get to a job that pays 30,000 some odd pesos a day, and the socialist have no answer to this, instead they burn down the only sysem the people have to get to and from work. It took my novia and her family 5 and 6 hours just to get home because of the protests and riots a while back. The same problems faced by Venezuelans and Cubans are they better off? Not by a long shot. Better for mongers? No, not at all. Take a look at the Cuban women getting arrested on the Malecon for just talking to a gringo. Better for mongers? I don't think so, how many of us are traveling to Caracas to monger in this great Socialist environment? I'm not sure what the answer is but to totally tear down the system, try Socialism again in light of every socialism disaster? I don't think so. One thing I know is necessary. Stop making the working class the victem of all the crime, everyone of my novias family have had thier phones stolen again and again, her father was shot in the head by robbers a block from his house on the way to the tienda, and spent over a month in a coma. The Socialist only interest is in over throwing the current party in charge and getting power to continue exploiting the working class. Unfortunately the current party in charge or whoever gets in charge will have very little incentive to keep any of the bullshit promise they make. It's about power for whoever gets in and power corrupts.
On another note, I had to cancel my flight to Bogota because of the massive flight cancellations and the ridiculous Prices. My direct flight from Atl to Bog was once 400 range is now over a thousand, I'm sure that is a deterrent for my budget minded brothers on this site. Be safe.
Some of the stuff they are doing to young children before they are even psychologically developed is a travesty. Save all that shit until they are least 18 yo, and not because of some misguided, warped perception by parents with possible secondary agendas.I agree. I think all children should be removed at birth from parents, lest they be indoctinated by them in to being trans, or being religious, or having the wrong politcal views, or any line of thinking or belief that I do not accept or believe is the correct one.
Instead of guilting their way into mainstream shows, I wish they would develop their own and let us enter your world versus their forcing their way into ours. Maybe in the next 20 years, we will see a trannie billionaire catering to trannie audiences, and I will be telling my straight friends, "You got to see this trannie show."Its not a million dollar show but I watch it regularly, is a weekly YT show called The Transatlantic Call in Show. Its great enetertainment and educational. I recommmend it.
As far as the left's heart is in the right place is true, true for the grunts that are carrying the water for the party leaders. However, the leaders could care less about the masses. In every instance the everyday citizens in every country where the socialist have control, NOTHING is better for them. Socialism is the incubation for Communism, another colossal failure. And Biden. Jaja por favor, where do I start.
Inflation, crime, gas prices, border chaos shortages etc, etc, etc. All of which happened once he / his controlling handlers took over. But I regress. This is not about politics in the USA. It's about the wonderful people of Colombia who I have grown to love.
Keeping it about Colombia. Many Colombians have a very difficult life, working for slave wages, the dangers they are exposed to everyday on the bus / transmilenio in an effort just to get home from work is very sad, spending 6/7000 pesos on transport a day, just to get to a job that pays 30,000 some odd pesos a day, and the socialist have no answer to this, instead they burn down the only sysem the people have to get to and from work. It took my novia and her family 5 and 6 hours just to get home because of the protests and riots a while back. The same problems faced by Venezuelans and Cubans are they better off? Not by a long shot. Better for mongers? No, not at all. Take a look at the Cuban women getting arrested on the Malecon for just talking to a gringo. Better for mongers? I don't think so, how many of us are traveling to Caracas to monger in this great Socialist environment? I'm not sure what the answer is but to totally tear down the system, try Socialism again in light of every socialism disaster? I don't think so. One thing I know is necessary. Stop making the working class the victem of all the crime, everyone of my novias family have had thier phones stolen again and again, her father was shot in the head by robbers a block from his house on the way to the tienda, and spent over a month in a coma. The Socialist only interest is in over throwing the current party in charge and getting power to continue exploiting the working class..Could we keep the dissertations from the doctors of political science in the stupid shit thread where they belong?
LatinaLover#1
05-30-22, 22:09
Could we keep the dissertations from the doctors of political science in the stupid shit thread where they belong?How did you get off the ignore list SFB.
How did you get off the ignore list SFB.You'll have to ask the fool who manages your ignore list.
A left progressivist government has never been good for mongering activities, sooner or later there will be a deep cleaning of prostitution places, massages parlor, 'clubs, casas. It did happen every where the progressist have taken control. Colombia is soon a dead place for mongering so enjoy it now because if's soon over.Can you give some examples or are you just talking out your arse bcos you know nothing about socialism and its all too scary for you?
however, the leaders could care less about the masses..Surely that's a good thing, no?
I would love to respond to your comment in detail but you wrote so much bollox that it is not worth my time.
All i can day is viva Petro!!?
Can you give some examples or are you just talking out your arse bcos you know nothing about socialism and its all too scary for you?LatinLover#1 listed two examples.
LatinLover#1 listed two examples.You mean his comments about Cuba and Vnzla? - they made no sense whatsoever.
"The same problems faced by Venezuelans and Cubans are they better off? Not by a long shot. Better for mongers? No, not at all. Take a look at the Cuban women getting arrested on the Malecon for just talking to a gringo. Better for mongers? I don't think so, how many of us are traveling to Caracas to monger in this great Socialist environment?
The reason these 2 struggle is due to the US embargo agsint both countries. Nothing to do with socialism and everything to do with the client vassel state stadning up against the mafia boss.
Do Cubans work in sex under socialism? Of course they do! What evidence does he have that it was better for mongers before Castro? None.
And Vnzlns too. Millions of them forced in to prostitution by the immoral embargo on Vznla by the capitalist bully. A fantastic bonanza for mongers.
So quite frankly, he is talking bollox. Its just a Gish Gallop against and an illogical attack on socialism without any substance.
Did you know that almost 98% of the universe is hydrogen and helium?
So the other 2%, the minority elements are what give life and diversity to our universe. If there were no minorities, our world would be very boring and mundane indeed. Just leaving that one out there.
Great speech by the president of Bolivia, about the growing popularity and power of political parties for the people in Latin America.
He calls for a shared homeland in South America. Hopefully Colombia will soon stop being the outtcast vassal state of the USA and join withtheir brothers and sisters to present a united front against oligarchy and exploitation of the people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62kZhX_FuVU
RamDavidson84
06-04-22, 00:21
Great speech by the president of Bolivia, about the growing popularity and power of political parties for the people in Latin America.
He calls for a shared homeland in South America. Hopefully Colombia will soon stop being the outtcast vassal state of the USA and join withtheir brothers and sisters to present a united front against oligarchy and exploitation of the people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62kZhX_FuVUI am curious how you view Colombia / Latin America as a vassal state to the USA? Do not fluff your answer with an irrelevant history of racism in the USA. I want to hear how today in 2020 in a land as rich and plentiful in Natural Resources as Colombia you think their poverty is the fault of the USA or "Oligarchs". I am not exactly sure what a "modern" vassal state is in your opinion, but this is how I interpreted your post. If I am wrong I apologize. It just seems ridiculous to me that a nation with a 500 year documented history and a population of over 50 million could be coerced into a mutual agreement with the USA which could result in a relationship which would hurt Colombia financially. Now I am sure the USA could use its global influence to get Colombia to perhaps agree to a financial relationship in which the USA gets the better of the deal, but I cannot comprehend how you could view any relationship between the two nations as a "Vassal" type relationship as you defined it. Any treaty Colombia is going to sign with another nation is going to somehow benefit Colombia, or they wouldn't sign the thing in the first place.
The USA has been a "Godsend" to the people of Latin America. The hard working, ambitious, innovative, highly educated, industrialized, and noble citizens of the USA have brought massive amounts of wealth, industry, political ideology, technology, and infrastructure to Latin America. After spending a great deal of time traveling to Latin America, I feel like Americans are the modern day slaves. Many Americans, especially white males, put their careers first and foremost before anything. This comes at a sacrifice in many other areas of life, such as a social and family life. To many American white males, to not succeed is unacceptable and anything less is an unforgivable sin. This is why white American males by far have the highest suicide rates. We place a very high value on our self worth in our ability to truly dedicate ourselves to a craft or a skill or in modern day terms a "career". This unselfish dedication is what has contributed most to building western society into the greatest most advanced civilization the world has ever known. I hope Latin America likes airplanes, nuclear power, automobiles, antibiotics, and democracy- because they all came from a group of people who most contributed to the success of the USA and this excess wealth and technology, has for generations spilled over into Latin America and even allowed many people from Latin America to come seek employment opportunities in the USA. I sometimes wonder what it would have been like to grow up in Colombia and just roam the streets, hang out with my friend, sell drugs, and bang smoking hot women for the first 25 or 30 years of my life like many Colombian men. It doesn't sound like a bad time at all. Sometimes I feel like Americans are the fools. Many Americans spend their youth staying up all night studying in school, training in competitive athletics to bring pride to your family and community, showing up to work on time no matter how sick or tired.
To me, when people state things like, "Colombia is a vassal state to the USA", it just comes off as really ungrateful be. S. And an excuse as to why maybe their country is not as wealthy as the USA. Wealth isn't everything, but if you don't put the work in you will not a nation of home owners, suv drivers, full pensiones, and healthcare with the best doctors in the world.
Hehehe In case you are wondering, I don't really believe all the be. S. I just wrote and I did write it to annoy all the liberals out there. Don't snap back at me too hard, but it is always a good idea to try to look at things from all perspectives.
The USA has been a "Godsend" to the people of Latin America. The hard working, ambitious, innovative, highly educated, industrialized, and noble citizens of the USA have brought massive amounts of wealth, industry, political ideology, technology, and infrastructure to Latin America.We were especially kind to Colombia by relieving it of Panamα by starting a fake revolution, and perhaps even kinder to Guatemala by using the CIA to overthrow their freely elected president. And obviously we were a godsend to Mιxico by stealing half their territory via the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo and the Gadsden Purchase. Just before gold was discovered at Sutter's Mill. Mιxico didn't need all that gold or the ports and coast of California and Oregon anyway. Nor the minerals in CO or AZ. The noble citizens of the Yew Ess deserved it much more because of Manifest Destiny and the Monroe Doctrine. And of course the Yew Ess engineered the outcome of the Mexican Revolution, whereupon the candidate they supported ran off with the entire treasury and was killed by his own security detail.
We did a bunch of noble shit in Chile too, assassinating their freely elected president. The Yew Ess is really a godsend to so may places, like Vietnam. Just so very noble, all that happened there.
Mojo Bandit
06-04-22, 05:22
The reason these 2 struggle is due to the US embargo agsint both countries. You need to read the book Animal Farm.
You have just tried to rewrite history here my friend and I just want to clarify the facts. I was dating a Venezulan chica on and off when all this was going on. She eventually went back to her family in Caracas but we kept in touch for years and she was telling about what was happening as it happen.
Fact: The reason that the Venezualen economy collapsed was because Hugo Chavez put "price controls" in place and merchants could no longer charge enough for their products to get what they needed to resupply with imports. Because price controls are a fantasy. All this happened at least 5 years before the US put any sanctions on them meanwhile the governement officals all live like oligarchs in Venezuela.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-politics-socialmedia/shaming-chavistas-venezuela-activists-decry-officials-luxury-lifestyles-idUSKBN18T2AD
RamDavidson84
06-04-22, 06:16
You mean his comments about Cuba and Vnzla? - they made no sense whatsoever.
"The same problems faced by Venezuelans and Cubans are they better off? Not by a long shot. Better for mongers? No, not at all. Take a look at the Cuban women getting arrested on the Malecon for just talking to a gringo. Better for mongers? I don't think so, how many of us are traveling to Caracas to monger in this great Socialist environment?
The reason these 2 struggle is due to the US embargo agsint both countries. Nothing to do with socialism and everything to do with the client vassel state stadning up against the mafia boss.
Do Cubans work in sex under socialism? Of course they do! What evidence does he have that it was better for mongers before Castro? None.
And Vnzlns too. Millions of them forced in to prostitution by the immoral embargo on Vznla by the capitalist bully. A fantastic bonanza for mongers.
So quite frankly, he is talking bollox. Its just a Gish Gallop against and an illogical attack on socialism without any substance.USA is only 5% of the global population. Cuba can still trade with the European Union, Russia, China, and all of the South American nations, let's throw in African nations as well. Now how do you explain the fiscal irresponsibility of the Cuban and Venezuelan governments? Hmmm, maybe it's due to corruption and socialism? Nahhh- lets just blame it on the USA and ignore the fact that the two nations are run by dictators who refuse to allow democracy or a free market to determine the course of peoples lives and income. Who cares if corrupt dictators live in mansions while their beloved citizens eat out of the trash and father's allow their daughters to sell their pussies daily just to feed themselves. Let's just look the other way and totally blind ourselves to the millions of people who have fled these nations to the USA and other countries. I am not saying I agree with the USA embargo on the two countries, but I do believe their political and economic systems are to blame for the corruption of their government and their failing economy.
You need to read the book Animal Farm.
You have just tried to rewrite history here my friend and I just want to clarify the facts. I was dating a Venezulan chica on and off when all this was going on. She eventually went back to her family in Caracas but we kept in touch for years and she was telling about what was happening as it happen.
Fact: The reason that the Venezualen economy collapsed was because Hugo Chavez put "price controls" in place and merchants could no longer charge enough for their products to get what they needed to resupply with imports. Because price controls are a fantasy. All this happened at least 5 years before the US put any sanctions on them meanwhile the governement officals all live like oligarchs in Venezuela.
It must be reassuring for you to know that the facts of modern day Vnzla are held in a fictional book written 70 years ago. And in the anecdotal knowledge of some girl that you know. I used to think that history was written by the vicstors of war, but clearly I was wrong. It was indeed written by some foreign gent 70 years before the event and by some random bird you met on your travels. Now that sounds like an episode for a new Hitchhikers Guide to The Galaxy book. Hehe.
We were especially kind to Colombia by relieving it of Panama by starting a fake revolution, and perhaps even kinder to Guatemala by using the CIA to overthrow their freely elected president. And obviously we were a godsend to Mexico by stealing half their territory via the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo and the Gadsden Purchase. Just before gold was discovered at Sutter's Mill. Mexico didn't need all that gold or the ports and coast of California and Oregon anyway. Nor the minerals in CO or AZ. And of course the Yew Ess engineered the outcome of the Mexican Revolution, whereupon the candidate they supported ran off with the entire treasury and was killed by his own security detail.
We did a bunch of noble shit in Chile too, assassinating their freely elected president. The Yew Ess is really a godsend to so may places, like Vietnam.And Dom Rep, Hiaiti, Nicaragua, Honduras, Granada, Puerto Rico, El Salvador, Brazil, Argentina, Venezuela, Cuba, Bolivia, Paraguay. And that's just the past 100 years. The USA is the benevolent friend of all in Latinland, a real godsend. In fact, there are not many countries in the region that have not benefitted from the hand of the USA.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_United_States_military_operations
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change#1917:_Costa_Rica.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKwJI9axblQ
Mr Enternational
06-04-22, 14:18
In fact, there are not many countries in the region that have not benefitted from the hand of the USA.There is nothing for free. It is all give and get. China has started their thing in Africa and people are talking about how the Chinese are taking advantage of whatever. Depends on perspective. If the people were there thousands of years doing nothing with the resources and living in what some say are substandard conditions and some outsider comes and raises their standard of living while at the same time taking the resources that were laying there unused, is that a robbery?
Personally, I think it was genius that DeBeers convinced Westerners that a hole full of shiny rocks was worth something. Is it their fault that the natives did not think of it first?
RamDavidson84
06-04-22, 15:27
We were especially kind to Colombia by relieving it of Panam by starting a fake revolution, and perhaps even kinder to Guatemala by using the CIA to overthrow their freely elected president. And obviously we were a godsend to Mxico by stealing half their territory via the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo and the Gadsden Purchase. Just before gold was discovered at Sutter's Mill. Mxico didn't need all that gold or the ports and coast of California and Oregon anyway. Nor the minerals in CO or AZ. The noble citizens of the Yew Ess deserved it much more because of Manifest Destiny and the Monroe Doctrine. And of course the Yew Ess engineered the outcome of the Mexican Revolution, whereupon the candidate they supported ran off with the entire treasury and was killed by his own security detail.
We did a bunch of noble shit in Chile too, assassinating their freely elected president. The Yew Ess is really a godsend to so may places, like Vietnam. Just so very noble, all that happened there.Colombia refused to negotiate with the world to create the Panama Canal, so the Panamanians struck a deal to get the canal built and create a new nation. They then built the canal for the benefit of the world and the people of that region who still benefit from its' profits to this day. Look how much more wealthy Panama is compared to other Latin American nations. The world needed that shipping route and Colombia was standing in the way of global progress. I still don't condone the way it was done, but this did also take place during the "Age of Imperialism" when the strength of a bad actor's military was still mightier than the pen, this was just a reality of the time period. The United States using its' size and strength was not unique to just the USA, but all the world's most powerful nations.
Did Mexico have the means to extract and utilize the natural resources and bring civility and infrastructure to the lands in its' Northern Territories? No, they had 300 years to do it and they had just a few thousand settlers living there. For years, the USA pleaded with Mexico to allow the USA to purchase it's territory to build railroads which crossed the continent so the continent could be settled and cities and towns built where civilized modern societies could proser, but Mexico refused over and over again. This doesn't justify the war and it is still fucked up how the USA and Mexico settled this issue with violence, but again, this occurred almost 200 years ago in a very different time period and if you were not working tirelessly to defend and secure your territory, you were going to lose it. This was typical among all societies all over the world, look at the wars of Napoleon in Europe and the various conflicts and revolutions of South America. This is why Mexico quickly realized the war was not worth it and quickly surrendered and negotiated to sell these lands to the USA. And all that being said, I don't condone anything about the Mexican American War, but there is much more to it, than Americans are evil and took Advantage of Mexico. Do Americans still to this day sit around and cry about the "War of 1812" because the British attacked us and we blame all our problems on the British from wars that occurred 100,150, or 200 years ago- no we don't, because its silly.
The Gadsen Purchase was land Mexico peacefully sold to the USA.
Do not rewrite history with non-sense like, "The USA engineered the Mexican Revolution". There is no evidence to support that statement.
RamDavidson84
06-04-22, 15:31
It must be reassuring for you to know that the facts of modern day Vnzla are held in a fictional book written 70 years ago. And in the anecdotal knowledge of some girl that you know. I used to think that history was written by the vicstors of war, but clearly I was wrong. It was indeed written by some foreign gent 70 years before the event and by some random bird you met on your travels. Now that sounds like an episode for a new Hitchhikers Guide to The Galaxy book. Hehe.How many countries is Venezuela allowed to trade with? Hmmm, are you sure its not corruption and socialism destroying the country? The USA only represents 5% of global population.
How many countries is Venezuela allowed to trade with? Hmmm, are you sure its not corruption and socialism destroying the country? The USA only represents 5% of global population.I'm sure. Venezuela is a rank dictatorship propped up by the military. The US is more 'socialist' than Venezuela.
Elvis 2008
06-04-22, 17:43
Great speech by the president of Bolivia, about the growing popularity and power of political parties for the people in Latin America.
He calls for a shared homeland in South America. Hopefully Colombia will soon stop being the outtcast vassal state of the USA and join withtheir brothers and sisters to present a united front against oligarchy and exploitation of the people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62kZhX_FuVUJustTK, I put $1500 into a Bolivian fund that represented a wide variety of Bolivian businesses. The broker was surprisingly honest. That fund under Maduro eventually went to $0. Had I put that money in an equivalent American fund, it would be worth $4000 today. Around the same time, I bought a company in Chile. If I had bought $1500 it would have went to $5000. I bought a Venezuelan company that had the best numbers of any company I had ever seen. With that $1500, I got $2000 after Hugo Chavez bought it and nationalized it. I bought an Argentine company that had vast real estate holdings and the price of real estate in Argentina soared while the stock did not. That asset appreciation all went to the owners of the stock.
The shocking part to me was going to a Venezuelan shareholder meeting where I got to see up close and personal how Venezuelans were. Even though Venezuelan law stipulated that 25% of all net income had to be paid out in dividends and Verizon owned 24% of the stock, I had to listen to worker after worker * about money being sent to the Verizon gringos. The workers were mad that the law was being followed and money was "wasted" by being sent to the rich gringos at Verizon. Meanwhile, Verizon / GTE had sprung for all the infrastructure in the country. They had built a thriving business and it was doing so well that Chavez decided to come in and steal it. Instead of asking to buy the company from shareholders, Chavez demanded the company and paid $20 a share. It was my feeling that the current value of the stock was $100 and could go up to as high as $500, but the Venezuelans were so deeply entrenched with the gringo ripoff they had the belief Chavez would be better.
In the end, Chavez tried to pull the same shit with oil companies. The world was thinking peak oil and Chavez thought companies like Exxon had to deal with them. Nope. Exxon invested in the USA and shale tech. Thing is the cost of production is 20 X that of the USA then it is in Venezuela but they knew how Chavez was. He would never keep his word. Every time, he would claim a company was cheating Venezuela, he would come in and either steal it or give pennies on the dollar. It was not just the gringos. The Chinese put a billion into a poultry farm and even had Chinese workers, and the Venezuelans managed to bankrupt that operation.
In the end, Venezuela, which has the largest oil reserves in the world, has seen their production shrink to just a trickle. By controlling every facet of the economy it left Chavez no competition for power, and the guy who so hated money and the rich so much smuggled $8 billion in cash and put it in his daughter's name who lives in the gringo city of Miami.
So how is Bolivia accomplishing an economic miracle when it is doing all it can to steal from investors? It is the same as Venezuela. Chavez got rid of all the legal businesses but the drug trade fought him and was allowed to flourish, and this current Bolivian president is talking about growing "legitimate" cocoa. Give me a fucking break. The Bolivian economic miracle is due to nothing but cocaine sales. If the USA ever got its head out of its ass and allowed drugs to be sold like it did with marijuana, the USA would be exporting cocaine to Bolivia because we could probably produce it better and cheaper than Bolivia could.
When I hear the rallying cry that government is the answer to everything and gringos are evil, I can scratch off investing a nickel into that country. Venezuela should be as rich as Saudi Arabia, and the reason it is not because people like me will never put one penny into until the culture is changed. The easiest way to have a poor country is saying government is going to fill all the people's needs. That shows contempt for those investors and managers who develop businesses that really cater to people's needs.
How many countries is Venezuela allowed to trade with? Hmmm, are you sure its not corruption and socialism destroying the country? The USA only represents 5% of global population.The USA uses the IMF and World Bank and plain old intimidation to get compliance from other countries to follow its demands.
The Gadsen Purchase was land Mexico peacefully sold to the USA.Actually Santa Anna was broke (again), NM's governor unilaterally declared parts of the Mesilla Valley to be part of the Yew Ess, and Stephen Douglas and William Walker were putting pressure on Mιxico militarily. And this was only a few years after Guadalupe Hidalgo so the treaty was not 'negotiated. ' It was signed under duress. Just as was the Hay-Herran Treaty. After we offered Colombia either $25 or $75 million and they said no, we didn't negotiate. We just took it. See, for example:
Deeds, Susan M. (1996). "Gadsden Purchase". Encyclopedia of Latin American History and Culture. Vol. 3. New York: Charles Scribner's Sons. Pp. 12.
Ibarra, Ignacio (February 12,2004). "Land sale still thorn to Mexico: Historians say United States imperialism behind treaty". Arizona Daily Star.
Do not rewrite history with non-sense like, "The USA engineered the Mexican Revolution". There is no evidence to support that statement.Dude. Wilson backed Carranza against Villa and Zapata and sent troops in to Mιxico (that is known as an invasion) to overthrow Huerta. The US Navy shelled Veracruz. Do you truly not know this stuff? He sent General Pershing and 12,000 troops after Villa (unsuccessfully).
https://veteranmuseum.net/research-united-states-interventions-in-mexico/#text=President%20 Woodrow%20 Wilson%20 was%20 reluctant, by%20 seizing%20 the%20 port%20 of.
One of the first things Wilson did after he was inaugurated was pressure him to resign, and imposed an arms embargo when he did not. Read Freidrich Katz's 'The Secret War in Mιxico,' or Alan Knight's 'The US and the Mιxican Peasantry,' to give two of the many examples of evidence. Or just read this wiki article:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_the_Mexican_Revolution
"the USA Navy bombarded the port of Veracruz and occupied Veracruz for seven months. Woodrow Wilson's actual motivation was his desire to overthrow Huerta.
Or: "The prevailing view among historians has been that Wilson interfered and intervened in Mιxico incessantly".
That's from 'Woodrow Wilson's Mexican Policy, 1913-1915' by KA Clements.
Maybe you prefer the Encyclopedia Britannica: 'The constitutionalist forces won the support of Woodrow Wilson, the new USA President, who refused to recognize Huerta, constitutionalist forces = Carranza.
And yeah, Panamα is now wealthy relative to most of Latin Amιrica. All of that should have accrued to Colombia. The efforts of de Lesseps shows that Colombia was willing to let a canal be built, just not for the price the Yew Ess was willing to pay.
You sound you still believe in 'manifest destiny' and appear to have no problems with the Monroe Doctrine. You should have been at Dien Bien Phu fighting for the French.
Do not rewrite history with non-sense like, "The USA engineered the Mexican Revolution". There is no evidence to support that statement.Don't misquote me. I said they engineered the outcome. But, there's plenty of evidence they did both.
ChuchoLoco
06-05-22, 18:44
The USA uses the IMF and World Bank and plain old intimidation to get compliance from other countries to follow its demands.It's called Neo-Colonialism and it's economic control minus outright invasion. There's some videos and a book called "Economic Assassin " or something close that tells the story for anyone who may want to learn more.
MarquisdeSade1
06-06-22, 03:12
Did you know that almost 98% of the universe is hydrogen and helium?
So the other 2%, the minority elements are what give life and diversity to our universe. If there were no minorities, our world would be very boring and mundane indeed. Just leaving that one out there.https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/pride-month-encourage-women-to-smell-their-poop-to-be-more-inclusive-to-trans-women-pridemonth2022/
RamDavidson84
06-06-22, 04:00
Don't misquote me. I said they engineered the outcome. But, there's plenty of evidence they did both.I will admit I haven't studied the Mexican American War or the Mexican Revolution extensively. I will say though that its' absolutely pathetic if Mexico allowed another country to engineer the "outcome" of their revolution. Common sense tells me a nation as large as Mexico wouldn't allow such a thing to happen. I can't believe Mexicans are that stupid, weak, and gullible to allow the USA to do such a thing. Then again, they did roll over quite easily in the Mexican American War and the mighty Aztecs were conquered by a few hundred conquistadors and a few thousand slaves, so perhaps you are right.
Humans have a long history of greed fueling warfare and of course Americans are no stranger to this.
RamDavidson84
06-06-22, 04:06
Actually Santa Anna was broke (again), NM's governor unilaterally declared parts of the Mesilla Valley to be part of the Yew Ess, and Stephen Douglas and William Walker were putting pressure on Mxico militarily. And this was only a few years after Guadalupe Hidalgo so the treaty was not 'negotiated. ' It was signed under duress. Just as was the Hay-Herran Treaty. After we offered Colombia either $25 or $75 million and they said no, we didn't negotiate. We just took it. See, for example:
Deeds, Susan M. (1996). "Gadsden Purchase". Encyclopedia of Latin American History and Culture. Vol. 3. New York: Charles Scribner's Sons. Pp. 12.
Ibarra, Ignacio (February 12,2004). "Land sale still thorn to Mexico: Historians say United States imperialism behind treaty". Arizona Daily Star..No, I am very familiar with the subject. Please tell me though, what did the USA have to gain by engineering the "outcome" of the Mexican Revolution like you claim?
Sorry, I meant to say I am not very familiar with the subject.
No, I am very familiar with the subject. Please tell me though, what did the USA have to gain by engineering the "outcome" of the Mexican Revolution like you claim? Sorry, I meant to say I am not very familiar with the subject.The president before Huerta, Madero, promised land reform including expropriating idle land, much of which was foreign owned. This was a threat to US, UK, German, etc., economic interests. Huerta had Madero killed, which Wilson liked, but then Huerta turned out to be a crazy, unreliable drunk and Wilson felt he could not 'control the country,' which also threatened US economic interests. So the US engineered the victory for Carranza against Villa and Zapata, because Carranza was a wealthy owner who supported the existing constitution vs. The proposed and eventual 1917 constitution allowing expropriation.
In the case of Guatemala and Juan Jacobo Αrbenz Guzmαand, Αrbenz in 1952 expropriated idle land from United Fruit Company and redistributed it to peasants for housing. Then he supported a wage increase from about fifty cents a (10 hour) day to about seventy-five cents a day. This was at a time when the US minimum wage was about the same per hour. The former president of United Fruit, Thomas Dulles, was the brother of US Secretary of State John Foster Dulles. TD was still on the board of directors and JFD had previously been a board member. So they sent the CIA in, trained a force in Somoza's Nicaragua, and simply overthrew Αrbenz. Somoza was another despot the Yew Ess supported, along with Noriega, Josι Efraνand Areνos Montt, etc.
Then the Yew Ess fucken exiled Αrbenz, his wife, and his daughter to three different countries. Αrbenz drank himself to death in Mιxico and his daughter committed suicide in Colombia. Not satisfied to have merely overthrown him, they persecuted him and his family for the rest of his life, running disinformation and smear campaigns.
And of course the CIA continued to overthrow freely elected presidents they deemed too progressive, such as Salvador Allende in Chile.
PedroMorales
06-06-22, 08:51
You sound you still believe in 'manifest destiny' and appear to have no problems with the Monroe Doctrine. You should have been at Dien Bien Phu fighting for the French.Excellent post. You read books. You must not be American. I see another of them justifying the Boer genocide. A quick flick through the other posts, all American ignorance.
Good old Panama and Noriega who went from American puppet to American prisoner.
You mention General Pershing, a real ****, even by American standards. On Armistice Day, 11-11-1918, he got his men to charge the German lines a few minutes early so they could have hot showers. The incredulous Germans waved them to wait but no. They needed their showers. German machine gunners showered them with lead. They were among the last fatalities of the Great War. Great General Pershing.
RamDavidson84
06-07-22, 00:05
Excellent post. You read books. You must not be American. I see another of them justifying the Boer genocide. A quick flick through the other posts, all American ignorance.
Good old Panama and Noriega who went from American puppet to American prisoner.
You mention General Pershing, a real ****, even by American standards. On Armistice Day, 11-11-1918, he got his men to charge the German lines a few minutes early so they could have hot showers. The incredulous Germans waved them to wait but no. They needed their showers. German machine gunners showered them with lead. They were among the last fatalities of the Great War. Great General Pershing.LOL, Nah, now WW1 I know a bit about and Pershing was a true hero. He will be remembered forever as such as well.
It's strange how today people are so proud that their countries or their ancestors got fucked up by the USA and then they pretend their people are so great because they didn't have the means, the balls, or the gumption to band together to even fight a war. And look at all the countries who sat on the side lines, now they are still living in poverty because they couldn't take a stand and fight for their people or they foolishly elected corrupt leaders who were bought by more powerful nations, or they just let dictators destroy their societies. LOL It's just weird how people love to make themselves victims today, all that matters is that someone comes from a country that was defeated and raped by another country and that makes them a good person. Personally, I am kinda sick of that hearing that pussy shit. Anybody who hates on a guy like Pershing is just a fucking sour grape crybaby-back *****! Hahaha. Take my post with a grain of salt and if I offended anyone, I am just being a dick and don't take it serious please.
And look at all the countries who sat on the side lines, now they are still living in poverty because they couldn't take a stand and fight for their people or they foolishly elected corrupt leaders who were bought by more powerful nations, or they just let dictators destroy their societies.What about Switzerland? Neutrality works well for them. And Argentina rose to be the seventh largest economy in the world following WWI by remaining neutral. Argentina was the first country to successfully export beef overseas using refrigerated shipping (1879) and the desire to ship beef (grain too) to both sides of combatants featured heavily in their decision to remain neutral, despite the historic ties with the British.
But you were probably born a jingo. Often jingoes are born and not made.
Check out the graph here "Positivity Rate by Vaccination Status" ? You can control by age.
https://www.walgreens.com/businesssolutions/covid-19-index.jsp
Shows that vaxs are doing FK all to prevent victims, sry I mean patients, from contracting CV.
Mr Enternational
06-07-22, 17:28
Check out the graph here "Positivity Rate by Vaccination Status" ? You can control by age.
https://www.walgreens.com/businesssolutions/covid-19-index.jsp
Shows that vaxs are doing FK all to prevent victims, sry I mean patients, from contracting CV.I was reading the other day that it is even worse if you are boosted.
PedroMorales
06-07-22, 17:39
LOL, Nah, now WW1 I know a bit about and Pershing was a true hero. e.https://www.armytimes.com/veterans/salute-veterans/2017/11/10/nov-11-1918-wasted-lives-on-armistice-day/
There is an article for you. Pershing was a prize kunt. No more to say on it.
Elvis 2008
06-07-22, 18:48
Check out the graph here "Positivity Rate by Vaccination Status" ? You can control by age.
https://www.walgreens.com/businesssolutions/covid-19-index.jsp
Shows that vaxs are doing FK all to prevent victims, sry I mean patients, from contracting CV.One of these days these dumb Dems will figure out how the media is manipulating them. We just saw the hysteria with Ukraine. We need to support our brothers fighting Democracy, and it is like $40 billion is passed onto the defense companies with very little oversight and shortly after that, the headlines are "Russia is winning the war."
With Covid, we had to spend billions on vaccines. The question everyone asked with Covid if someone was sick was, "Are you vaccinated?" and if the answer was no, it was like a green light to treat that person like shit as they were so irresponsible. Of course, this data shows the vaccine do jack shit with regards to getting Covid. In fact, the group least likely to get Covid is the unvaccinated group. If there were talk in the news of Covid every day, I am sure "scientists" would manipulate the data in such a way to say that the lower rates of the unvaccinated getting Covid were "not statistically significant", but because Covid is not in the news every day, no one cares.
And there were billions in wasted vaccine to boot, but no one cares about that either. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/covid-vaccine-doses-wasted-rcna31399.
Like the defense industries got their money, Pfizer and Moderna got theirs. I am not sure these vaccines will even be offered / available after the moratorium on lawsuits is lifted. They are worthless now and are dangerous to boot.
RamDavidson84
06-07-22, 21:05
https://www.armytimes.com/veterans/salute-veterans/2017/11/10/nov-11-1918-wasted-lives-on-armistice-day/
There is an article for you. Pershing was a prize kunt. No more to say on it.Yeah let's go through history and judge people by their worst moments and do our best to destroy the legacies of the people who made the most contributions. That will certainly work out well for society LOL.
Dar Papaya- in English, it basically means if you act like an asshole and let people take advantage of you, they will. It's human nature.
Mexico and Latin America love to "Dar Papaya" for other countries. Let's pull our pants down, bend over, and lube our asses up. Then when America comes in and fucks us up our taco shitting asses, we'll cry rape and pull the victim card for the next 200 fucking years and this will be our excuse to never get our fucking shit together. In the 1800's, the quality of life sucked for even the richest countries. If you were not constantly working to secure and maintain your territory, train a functional and effective military, constantly seeking out diplomatic solutions and treaties to keep peace and commerce with other countries, work to exact and utilize your nation's natural resources as well as provide the infrastructure, education, and training for your workforce- then guess what- another country is going to come along and take your shit. All the countries of the world knew the rules of the game during this time period. The government of Mexico and Latin America were negligent and their people paid the price for it unfortunately. It's sad what happened and I would never condone the actions of the USA for their policies regarding the Mexican-American War, but I will also not vilify them and refuse to acknowledge the reality of the time period.
Is it fair for nations not to pull their weight and allow population booms in their countries when they don't have the infrastructure, education system, food, water, and economy to support their population which then places an unfair burden on the nations who are fulling its' obligations to society and the global population?
Where I come from, if you act like an asshole- expect to be treated like one. If you want respect- you must give it and earn it. If you come into another man's home- do not bite the hand that feeds you. I used to think those morals were universal, but sadly I am realizing they are not.
RamDavidson84
06-07-22, 21:11
What about Switzerland? Neutrality works well for them. And Argentina rose to be the seventh largest economy in the world following WWI by remaining neutral. Argentina was the first country to successfully export beef overseas using refrigerated shipping (1879) and the desire to ship beef (grain too) to both sides of combatants featured heavily in their decision to remain neutral, despite the historic ties with the British.
But you were probably born a jingo. Often jingoes are born and not made.And you were probably born a garfok that likes to suck snagglies LOL.
Argentina is poor as fuck bro. Pick a better example.
Switzerland controls the world's finances, that's their get out of jail free card. Don't expect other nations to get such treatment. Even Sweden, a historically neutral nation has just joined NATO and decided not to sit on the sidelines while true evil threatens innocent people. Sometimes a shepherd must fend off the wolves.
You seem like the type of guy to watch old ladies get mugged and look the other way. Not my type of guy.
I was reading the other day that it is even worse if you are boosted.https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/why-are-boosted-americans-testing-positive-for-covid-19-more-often-than-those-without-extra-shot/ar-AAYcanV?li=BBnbfcL
Argentina is poor as fuck bro. Pick a better example.Argentina was the 7th richest country in the world in the 1920's. 10th before WWI so they improved with neutrality. They're a great example because it was when they abandoned neutrality, their situation got demonstrably worse.
You seem like the type of guy to watch old ladies get mugged and look the other way. Not my type of guy.Appearances can be deceiving. I chased down a purse snatcher in Quito. In Buenos Aires a kid ripped a gold chain off a woman's neck and I chased him too but no one would help. Neither woman was old, sorry. I will admit I missed my chance with the old lady. Also Buenos Aires. Late at night, walking home drunk. Some guy comes flying around the corner with something in his arms and I was like what's wrong with THIS picture? But took too long to process that it was a purse and by then he was past me. He didn't hurt her, though. I got her calmed down and we called the cops, who were useless.
Not neutral when it comes to women getting robbed. No no. But you should read and study more before you pontificate because you don't know shit. Switzerland controls the world's finances. Oh uh huh. The Yew Ess is watching innocent people getting shot and looking the other way.
Oh and I body slammed a shoplifter running out of a liquor store in the US. Don't look the other way on that shit either.
PedroMorales
06-08-22, 08:57
You must be after some kind of record for contradicting yourself so many times. Americans should stay within their own borders. Still plenty of schools to shoot up. Anyway with all those missiles you are sending into Ukraine which are now for sale on the dark web, expect the Great Leap Forward to go ahead by leaps and bounds.
I'll be taking a shower soon. But unlike Pershing, I won't get fools to charge American machine gunners just before an Armistice for it. America: it has the dregs of the world, including its own dregs.
Self contradictory shit
Covid is not in the news every day, no one cares.
And there were billions in wasted vaccine to boot, but no one cares about that either.
Like the defense industries got their money, Pfizer and Moderna got theirs. I am not sure these vaccines will even be offered / available after the moratorium on lawsuits is lifted. They are worthless now and are dangerous to boot.Yes, CV has dropped out of the news almost entirely. How convenient! I only ever hear occasional news on The Hill and a couple of specialists channels. It's almost as if they don't want to talk about it anymore bcos it's kind of an embarrassment and the Ukraine war is a very convenient distraction. Vaxs funded and risks taken by the public, profits shared amongst the oligarchs / establishment. Get your fix of capitalism and democracy right here folks, step on up!
Yeah let's go through history and judge people by their worst moments and do our best to destroy the legacies of the people who made the most contributions. That will certainly work out well for society LOL.
You should see the list on Winston Churchill. You wouldn't believe it. Just as bad as Hitler.
RamDavidson84
06-08-22, 21:20
You should see the list on Winston Churchill. You wouldn't believe it. Just as bad as Hitler.LOL, I think the vast majority of people would disagree with that statement. Haha, who is worse: Trump or Hitler? I would love to hear the answers to that one hahahaha.
RamDavidson84
06-08-22, 21:26
You must be after some kind of record for contradicting yourself so many times. Americans should stay within their own borders. Still plenty of schools to shoot up. Anyway with all those missiles you are sending into Ukraine which are now for sale on the dark web, expect the Great Leap Forward to go ahead by leaps and bounds.
I'll be taking a shower soon. But unlike Pershing, I won't get fools to charge American machine gunners just before an Armistice for it. America: it has the dregs of the world, including its own dregs.Just point out one time I contradicted myself. That's all. Just once.
People should be allowed to immigrate. It should just be regulated effectively to benefit all parties involved. It should also be done legally and the citizens of the country should be allowed to limit the number of migrants as they see fit. Pretty simple. Oh yea, and don't allow fentanyl peddling drug dealers and human traffickers to freely cross your borders as well. That's probably not the best thing for most communities.
Dude, do you really want to knock on kids who have been murdered at gun point by mentally ill sociopaths? Is that really who you want to be? I am guessing you're an Alex Jones fan?
RamDavidson84
06-09-22, 05:07
Argentina was the 7th richest country in the world in the 1920's. 10th before WWI so they improved with neutrality. They're a great example because it was when they abandoned neutrality, their situation got demonstrably worse.
Appearances can be deceiving. I chased down a purse snatcher in Quito. In Buenos Aires a kid ripped a gold chain off a woman's neck and I chased him too but no one would help. Neither woman was old, sorry. I will admit I missed my chance with the old lady. Also Buenos Aires. Late at night, walking home drunk. Some guy comes flying around the corner with something in his arms and I was like what's wrong with THIS picture? But took too long to process that it was a purse and by then he was past me. He didn't hurt her, though. I got her calmed down and we called the cops, who were useless.
Not neutral when it comes to women getting robbed. No no. But you should read and study more before you pontificate because you don't know shit. Switzerland controls the world's finances. Oh uh huh. The Yew Ess is watching innocent people getting shot and looking the other way.
Oh and I body slammed a shoplifter running out of a liquor store in the US. Don't look the other way on that shit either.I really don't feel like having these pointless arguments, but I will oblige you one more time sir. Argentina remained neutral for WW1 and WW2. They are now considered to be an economically poor nation today, much like the rest of most of Latin America who also remained Neutral for WW1 and WW2, both wars of which defined much of the world for the rest of the 20th century. The United States did however decide to commit to the war effort in both wars and it had numerous positive benefits for our society, especially in the fields of innovative technology, factory production, and trade relations with foreign nations which greatly strengthened America's economy. There were without a doubt intangible benefits to fighting a noble war and parlaying the spoils of war into a nation of global prestige and influence. These same benefits led to a country which other nations could reliably conduct business and trade with and be confident that their investments would produce positive returns. Of course not every aspect of a war like WW2 is positive, but I do believe the positive benefits outweigh the policy of Neutrality if your nation has the means to effectively participate. Latin America most likely did not have the means to effectively participate in a foreign war due to its own internal struggles and political instability. The world, for a time, used to appreciated the national sacrifice made by countries like the USA and the UK for fighting off truly evil regimes like Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan. If Germany and Japan had been victorius, how long do you give them before they would come for the land, wealth, and man-power of Latin America? It's not implausible to speculate. History would tell us not long at all. So again I will state, In my most humble opinion, Neutrality is a Luxury the nations of the world cannot afford just yet, and that is quite unfortunate.
Here is some useful advice if you going to contribute an intellectual opinion publicly. You are clearly using vocabulary which is beyond your comprehension. You selection and placement of the term "pontificate" is utilized poorly. If you are going to choose an advanced term as such, do not start your sentence with the word "But". It displays poor writing skills and makes you seem uneducated. Readers will be likely to dismiss your posts. It remind me of when Mike Tyson would use big words he had heard to intimate his opponents, but he didn't really understand what the words mean't or when it was really appropriate to use them.
So you claim you are a heroic individual who stands up for those being attacked or robbed violently. Hmmm, after reading your post, it just seems like a load of bullshit to me. A real man from the street who has had to actually physically apprehend a criminal on numerous occasions probably has high enough self esteem to not describe in detail every altercation he has ever been in. He would probably just state the fact that he does not condone certain types of criminal behavior which hurts innocent people. You clearly took a hit to your ego when I stated you're the type of guy to let women get mugged and look the other way based off your opinion of Neutrality because you are going overboard defending yourself. You are even describing the moves you are using to take a shoplifter, "bodyslam" LOL. I call bullshit and you come off as a very fake and insecure individual based off your writing. But what do I know, I am just some asshole on a sex-mongering forum, so don't get too bent out of shape over this nonsense. I certainly won't.
Dude, do you really want to knock on kids who have been murdered at gun point by mentally ill sociopaths? Is that really who you want to be? I am guessing you're an Alex Jones fan?Pedro is across a number of the free for all threads, various countries, mainly trolling Americans and pitching Russian propaganda, or whatever he thinks will get a reaction. These threads solved a problem for the admins as they keep the review threads clear. Though at the same time they have made a home for basement weirdos that don't monger and will never seen Medellin.
Colombia now has a socialist president like Venezuela. Is the US now going to sanction Colombia? What's going to happen to the economy of Colombia?
Colombia now has a socialist president like Venezuela. Is the US now going to sanction Colombia? What's going to happen to the economy of Colombia?The election was close but yeah, Petro declared the winner. Antioquia, where we are in Medellin, the other guy won by a comfortable margin so maybe we will be a little bit more of a conservative political "enclave" here, I dunno. What I know about Colombian politics wouldn't fill a thimble. But this is historical for Petro being Colombia's first leftist president and a former urban guerrilla rebel. Of course, they used to say the guy who was the former president was just a mouth piece for the cartel, but who knows. I think there will be more than ripples from this all the way back to the US of A.
Colombia now has a socialist president like Venezuela. Is the US now going to sanction Colombia? What's going to happen to the economy of Colombia?
Actually he doesn't take office until August. For now Colombia still has Duque as its president. And no not like in Venezuela, the situation there is quite different. Petro is more like a Bernie Sanders than a Maduro. Hopefully the exchange rate will go to 4500 now. We will see what happens in the coming months.
Colombia now has a socialist president like Venezuela. Is the US now going to sanction Colombia? What's going to happen to the economy of Colombia?Seriously? You think a leftist like Petro who believes in alleviating poverty and corruption in Colombia is "like" a military propped up dictator who believes in lining his own pockets and the rest of the population of Venezuela be damned. I don't think they are even remotely similar.
Colombia now has a socialist president like Venezuela. Is the US now going to sanction Colombia? What's going to happen to the economy of Colombia?Viva Colombia! Am sure there will be some changes that will be significant to mongering in MDE and Colombia in general. Can't wait for the predictions to circulate. Hehe.
Colombia now has a socialist president like Venezuela. Is the US now going to sanction Colombia? What's going to happen to the economy of Colombia?Yes. As of tomorrow morning there will be 46,719 US sanctions against Colombia, the assets of every US citizen currently in Colombia will be seized and anyone refusing to join the socialists will be imprisoned. On the plus side, all prostitution will be government controlled with the price set at 9500 pesos for 30 minutes. China has already announced they are sending 250,000 troops to support the revolution.
They elected a new President. That's all. It's unlikely there will be any significant change.
NorthernLight
06-20-22, 00:53
Colombia now has a socialist president like Venezuela. Is the US now going to sanction Colombia? What's going to happen to the economy of Colombia?Bernie Sander is also Socialist. Socialist doesn't equal to anti-America. And after October Brazil election, almost entire Latin America will have lefty government in office. Is US going to sanction them all?
And after October Brazil election, almost entire Latin America will have lefty government in office. Is US going to sanction them all?The USA tries. It sanctioned Nicaragua, Cuba, Venezuela, Bolivia. All for electing presidents that the people wanted and the USA didn't. Much of Central America has also recently shifted left. And El Salvador didn't go left but also elected an anti-establishment people's president. There is a growing solidarity in the region, which can only benefit all. If enough of them can elect presidents with integrity, I think there will be major changes, not just in their relationships with the USA, but opportunites for the people. Also sounds like Colombia will normalise relations with Venezuela, wihch may make Venezuela a more attractive destination for single men, but reduce the nuimber of Venezuelanas on the streets of Colombia.
The USA tries. It sanctioned Nicaragua, Cuba, Venezuela, Bolivia. All for electing presidents that the people wanted and the USA didn't. Much of Central America has also recently shifted left. And El Salvador didn't go left but also elected an anti-establishment people's president. There is a growing solidarity in the region, which can only benefit all. If enough of them can elect presidents with integrity, I think there will be major changes, not just in their relationships with the USA, but opportunites for the people. Also sounds like Colombia will normalise relations with Venezuela, wihch may make Venezuela a more attractive destination for single men, but reduce the nuimber of Venezuelanas on the streets of Colombia.The US didn't sanction Mιxico after electing AMLO.
Elvis 2008
06-20-22, 02:30
Bernie Sander is also Socialist. Socialist doesn't equal to anti-America. And after October Brazil election, almost entire Latin America will have lefty government in office. Is US going to sanction them all?NL, my gal sent me a text saying that she hopes this president respects private property, the free press, and entrepreneurship. The worst is that he is a climate change nut and wants to shut down oil drilling in Colombia. Why anybody would run on that now is beyond me.
The US didn't sanction Mxico after electing AMLO.Right. Like all bullies, it has to choose its victims well. Mexico is too close to home and part of NAFTA. And he is another left wing leader. Is pushing back against the USA and showing solidarity with Latinoland. I felwl we are really on the cusp of smthg.
"There can be no Americas Summit if all the countries of the American continent do not participate," Mr. Lσpez Obrador said. "Or there can be, but we believe that means continuing with the politics of old, of interventionism, of a lack of respect for the nations and their people. " (President Lσpez Obrador of Mexico said he made the decision because Cuba, Nicaragua and Venezuela were not invited.).
Push this on to Talking Shlt, but I think it is relevant to mongering in the medium term in Colombia and MDE.
Push this on to Talking Shlt, but I think it is relevant to mongering in the medium term in Colombia and MDE.Relevent in a good way or a bad way? If the exchange rate goes to 4300 or 4500 that would affect us in a good way. What do you think is going to happen?
ColombiaLover
06-20-22, 03:05
Do we really believe these leftists have integrity? I don't see leftists / socialists really doing anything for the people, while at the same time damaging any progress made on capitalism. I feel for the Colombian people, I really do. At lest with Obama, the poor bought into (and some received) free Obama cell phones! Jejejeje.
There is a growing solidarity in the region, which can only benefit all. If enough of them can elect presidents with integrity, I think there will be major changes, not just in their relationships with the USA, but opportunites for the people. .
Relevent in a good way or a bad way? If the exchange rate goes to 4300 or 4500 that would affect us in a good way. What do you think is going to happen?I don't claim to have any special insight in to exch rates. But I imagine there will be a short term negative reaction by the establishment markets to the first left wing president of Colombia, which will be good for the mongering economic forecast. But after the initial resentment passes. Depends how the new party performs. Market shocks tend to pass quite qucikly, I imagine all the new party hope for is stability and support from its major regional and economic allies.
How about you. What do you think?
I don't claim to have any special insight in to exch rates. But I imagine there will be a short term negative reaction by the establishment markets to the first left wing president of Colombia, which will be good for the mongering economic forecast. But after the initial resentment passes. Depends how the new party performs. Market shocks tend to pass quite qucikly, I imagine all the new party hope for is stability and support from its major regional and economic allies.
How about you. What do you think?Well I don't think Colombia will ever be like Venezuela. There's a big difference between a left leaning socialist and a criminal dictator. As far as exchange rates go I'm hoping if he raises taxes and scares away foreign investment it will put the exchange rate more favorable for us. I don't think things will change much on the ground tho. Mιxico hasn't changed much since AMLO was elected except for taking cartoon characters of of cereal boxes LOL.
Just Incognito
06-20-22, 03:31
Seriously? You think a leftist like Petro who believes in alleviating poverty and corruption in Colombia is "like" a military propped up dictator who believes in lining his own pockets and the rest of the population of Venezuela be damned. I don't think they are even remotely similar.You are correct. They aren't remotely similar. I think the people who cry the most about the word 'socialist' can't even actually define the term!
I live on a Caribbean Island owned by the Netherlands. We have socialist Helathcare! OMG! We also have more rights, and more freedom than the USA!
There are differences in socialism, democratic socialism and being a 'leftist'.
Nothing much will change in Colombia outside of more candidates running in the future. If anything major changes it won't be until the end of Petro's term when we have the next peaceful transition of power--something today's republicans and the people who cry 'socialist!' the most don't seem to understand since January 6th, 2021 when the 'conservatives' in America tried to stage a coup against the US govt!. That trumpist fascist energy is a far greater threat to freedom and democracy than Petro!
Well I don't think Colombia will ever be like Venezuela. As far as exchange rates go I'm hoping if he raises taxes and scares away foreign investment it will put the exchange rate more favorable for us. I don't think things will change much on the ground tho. Mxico hasn't changed much since AMLO was elected.The vice president is a black woman too. Not some rich privileged bltch, but a representative of the people. She could also affect life on the streets a lot. Poverty, women's roles. Interesting times. I just hope it all works out well for the poor people here. They have needed this change for decades.
Just Incognito
06-20-22, 03:36
Well I don't think Colombia will ever be like Venezuela. There's a big difference between a left leaning socialist and a criminal dictator. As far as exchange rates go I'm hoping if he raises taxes and scares away foreign investment it will put the exchange rate more favorable for us. I don't think things will change much on the ground tho. Mxico hasn't changed much since AMLO was elected except for taking cartoon characters of of cereal boxes LOL.Colombia is the 2nd oldest democracy in the western hemisphere.
Colombia remains the longest-standing democracy in Latin America, and its constitution was inspired by the democratic principles of the US Constitution. There is no comparison with Venezuela. Petro isn't the last dictator's bus driver who claims the dead dictator can talk to him. He's just a left of center candidate--like, clearly, the majority in Colombia are.
Petro's campaign is rumored to have been heavily funded by narcos. That is not unusual for Colombian politicians at every level.
The vice president is a black woman too. Not some rich privileged bltch, but a representative of the people. She could also affect life on the streets a lot. Poverty, women's roles. Interesting times. I just hope it all works out well for the poor people here. They have needed this change for decades.
AmorPorFavor
06-20-22, 04:23
The vice president is a black woman too. Not some rich privileged bltch, but a representative of the people. She could also affect life on the streets a lot. Poverty, women's roles. Interesting times. I just hope it all works out well for the poor people here. They have needed this change for decades.The ruling class in Columbia is very corrupt and there is extreme wealth inequality. This likely will lead to increased stability over the long term, improve conditions for the poor and reduce crime. Columbia has a history of political violence and there have been large protests that got violent recently. The people are sick of it and that why the leftist won. The other candidate was part of the status quo. And the new guy was the mayor of Bogota and I believe there is still some mongering going on there. So hopefully this will prevent political violence like we have here in the US (Jan 6).
Petro won by a sliver. As I wrote earlier, he is said to have been funded heavily by narcos and right wing interests. During his victory speech tonight he swiftly moved to the center while pandering to the poor masses: "we support capitalism," "we will grow the economy to distribute it," "no more violence."
The ruling class in Columbia is very corrupt and there is extreme wealth inequality. This likely will lead to increased stability over the long term, improve conditions for the poor and reduce crime. Columbia has a history of political violence and there have been large protests that got violent recently. The people are sick of it and that why the leftist won. The other candidate was part of the status quo. And the new guy was the mayor of Bogota and I believe there is still some mongering going on there. So hopefully this will prevent political violence like we have here in the US (Jan 6).
Do we really believe these leftists have integrity? I don't see leftists / socialists really doing anything for the people, while at the same time damaging any progress made on capitalism. I feel for the Colombian people, I really do. At lest with Obama, the poor bought into (and some received) free Obama cell phones! Jejejeje.Nice myth though it has gained a lot of mileage. Lifeline phone subsides started under the Reagan administration. Jejejeje Wink.
https://www.fcc.gov/general/lifeline-program-low-income-consumers
Do we really believe these leftists have integrity?Do you really believe these "rightists" have integrity? Pick a side. Wink.
Colombia now has a socialist president like Venezuela. Is the US now going to sanction Colombia? What's going to happen to the economy of Colombia?How about visit Colombia sometime? There's next to know evidence that you've ever been.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxhZ2gJP4i8&list=PLRHSTehSy9NPdZ-rWiArWGLvr1WlsRzkC
GeneHickman
06-20-22, 06:21
The ruling class in Columbia is very corrupt and there is extreme wealth inequality. This likely will lead to increased stability over the long term, improve conditions for the poor and reduce crime. Columbia has a history of political violence and there have been large protests that got violent recently. The people are sick of it and that why the leftist won. The other candidate was part of the status quo. And the new guy was the mayor of Bogota and I believe there is still some mongering going on there. So hopefully this will prevent political violence like we have here in the US (Jan 6).Some serious lack of objectivity here. Jan 6th was a storm in a teacup. A magnifying glass bein put on it to meet political ends. So transparent to any neutral observer. Colombia has a history of guerilla warfare and drugs and criminal gangs. Leftists may want to share the pie, but the history of Latin America is that there isn't much of a pie to share once they get in. Capital flees, no one invests there, US aid $13 B since 2002 will dry up, and if he implements any of his loonie policies, the peso will plummet and inflation will soar. Not a good recipe to encourage tourism or any other industry. Over 1/2 of Colombian forex comes from Oil / gas, how exactly is that going to be replaced? China might be the big winner here, as this new leader may gravitate that way. Will be interesting. The one good thing is that they too have a congress branch of gov't and that will temper many of Petro excesses.
The vice president is a black woman too. Not some rich privileged bltch, but a representative of the people. She could also affect life on the streets a lot. Poverty, women's roles. Interesting times. I just hope it all works out well for the poor people here. They have needed this change for decades.This change has been coming along though and I think Colombia is on the right path towards prosperity as a country. A lot of it has been actually getting in leaders that realized that if they weren't corrupt, they could actually bring a lot of good to the people. From my very superficial view of their politics, I'm happy Petro won because of his choice in vice presidents. Both candidates chose Afro-Latina women, but Petro chose an activist, someone who has a history in politics. His opponent asked for resumes and picked a professor that has never been in politics, a very odd choice.
As for the metro conversation, I spent a good amount of time on it and didn't have too much of a problem with it. The residents of Medellin take a lot of pride in it and it shows. It's just too fucking crowded at times and that's from someone coming from NYC. Getting out of El Centro any time between 5 PM - 7 PM was a nightmare. After spending time in a hotel in LA 70 and one in Poblado, staying in the Nutti made more sense for me given how much I enjoyed El Centro. I'm leaning towards just staying there when I go back next month.
Anyone know if the construction is still going on in Parque Lleras? Or when it's expected to be completed?
And Osteo, my last comment about phones was that if you're using an eSIM, you can't move that eSIM between phones easily for most providers. A physical SIM can bounce around phones with ease. It's generally not a problem for travelling I expect to run into for travelling.
AmorPorFavor
06-20-22, 06:47
Some serious lack of objectivity here. Jan 6th was a storm in a teacup. A magnifying glass bein put on it to meet political ends. So transparent to any neutral observer. Colombia has a history of guerilla warfare and drugs and criminal gangs. Leftists may want to share the pie, but the history of Latin America is that there isn't much of a pie to share once they get in. Capital flees, no one invests there, US aid $13 B since 2002 will dry up, and if he implements any of his loonie policies, the peso will plummet and inflation will soar. Not a good recipe to encourage tourism or any other industry. Over 1/2 of Colombian forex comes from Oil / gas, how exactly is that going to be replaced? China might be the big winner here, as this new leader may gravitate that way. Will be interesting. The one good thing is that they too have a congress branch of gov't and that will temper many of Petro excesses.You are sooooo neutral, LOL.
SavePros321
06-20-22, 06:58
Well I don't think Colombia will ever be like Venezuela.If Petro does to Colombia's oil industry what Hugo Chavez did to Venezuela, then it will be Venezuela 4. 0 All over again.
Enjoy it while you still can.
Bernie Sander is also Socialist. Socialist doesn't equal to anti-America. And after October Brazil election, almost entire Latin America will have lefty government in office. Is US going to sanction them all?I'm pretty sure the US is going to take the same extreme action they took when Uruguay elected a former leftist rebel as President. And Colombia will probably experience the same total collapse as Uruguay under Mujica.
You are sooooo neutral, LOL.I'm old enough to have voted in 11 US Presidential elections. Before and after every election I've listened to people from both sides tell about the golden age coming if their candidate won and the total inevitable total collapse if the other guy won.
About the only noticeable change is the picture hanging in government offices. No golden age, no collapse, just minor changes that do almost nothing except get people to complain about how the nothing that happened under a previous President was much better or worse than the nothing happening under the current President.
The Colombian government, like most governments is a slow moving beast that doesn't like to change direction. It plods along no matter who holds the reins. Sometimes it shits on one side of the road, sometimes on the other, and occasionally right in the middle. The only guarantee is that everyone following the government is going to have to deal with some shit.
Seriously? You think a leftist like Petro who believes in alleviating poverty and corruption in Colombia is "like" a military propped up dictator who believes in lining his own pockets and the rest of the population of Venezuela be damned. I don't think they are even remotely similar.I didn't think it made a difference to the US. I thought that the US (CIA and FBI) hated all leftists. I am continually learning in politics.
I'm pretty sure the US is going to take the same extreme action they took when Uruguay elected a former leftist rebel as President. And Colombia will probably experience the same total collapse as Uruguay under Mujica.Will that affect our 'entertainment'?
I wonder how the election of the former guerilla Gustavo Petro will affect the mongering scene? Will prices increase? Will the scene decrease? Who knows with liberal policies it may expand exponentially. Your next p4p encounter may be performed by a former Abogada or Enfermera. It may become a Profesiand de estreno or worst case scenario time to find a new mongering scene.
If Petro does to Colombia's oil industry what Hugo Chavez did to Venezuela, then it will be Venezuela 4.0 All over again.
Enjoy it while you still can.Why would he? The situation in Venezuela is not comparable to the situation in Venezuela in 1999 and Petro isn't attempting to follow in Chavez's footsteps. Even if he looked at Venezuela, considered it's current state and decided "yep, that's exactly what I want for Colombia" he's dealing with a government which will happily restrict his power if they feel he's abusing or exceeding it.
Will that affect our 'entertainment'?Probably just as much as things were affected in Uruguay under Mujica. In other words, no.
I wonder how the election of the former guerilla Gustavo Petro will affect the mongering scene? Will prices increase? Will the scene decrease? Who knows with liberal policies it may expand exponentially. Your next p4p encounter may be performed by a former Abogada or Enfermera. It may become a Profesiand de estreno or worst case scenario time to find a new mongering scene.1. Nothing at all will change until his inauguration.
2. After his inauguration nothing will continue to change for several months.
3. After several months there might be some tiny changes, but it will likely take years before they have a significant impact on the mongering scene.
4. There's a microscopic possibility he will attempt to make some drastic changes. If so, the Colombian Supreme Court will almost certainly whack his peepee and nothing will change.
AmorPorFavor
06-20-22, 16:23
Petro won by a sliver. As I wrote earlier, he is said to have been funded heavily by narcos and right wing interests. During his victory speech tonight he swiftly moved to the center while pandering to the poor masses: "we support capitalism," "we will grow the economy to distribute it," "no more violence."Who is saying that? People say a lot of things.
Probably just as much as things were affected in <fill in almost any country in the world> under <fill in almost any elected leader>. In other words, no.An almost-developed country, Colombia, gets a new president and people use it as an excuse to espouse their own political predilections, glory and doom, while ignoring reality?
This discussion, as do most political discussions, rises almost to the same level for me as one of my favorite (original) allegories, "a pack of rabid pitbulls in a pool of piranha" that I used here to describe the vaccine debates, all points there now moot, as I predicted.
JuJuBee comes across as an appropriately sardonic voice of reason on this topic. Where do people get the idea that change occurs so easily?? Modern politics move in sludge. No one asked me, and I am not going to give another opinion on this thread.
My guy lost. I doubt I will notice any direct impact on my-way-of-being. Actually, I loved Catgirl's response when I asked her if she cared to share who she was going to vote for, she told me, "I have a blank. " Jajajajjaajajajaaaaaa. She probably voted based on the sound of the candidates names, like many people do.
Elvis 2008
06-20-22, 16:59
I wonder how the election of the former guerilla Gustavo Petro will affect the mongering scene? Will prices increase? Will the scene decrease? Who knows with liberal policies it may expand exponentially. Your next p4p encounter may be performed by a former Abogada or Enfermera. It may become a Profesiand de estreno or worst case scenario time to find a new mongering scene.In the near term, the Peso is probably going to go down because a lot of companies particularly the oil companies will move out or lower investment. This guy was against further oil drilling and probably used the climate change agenda to do so. What happened in Venezuela was the oil production went way down while drug trafficking went through the roof. The same happened in Bolivia though it was natural gas not oil. There they actually brag about the cocoa crop numbers exploding (for legitimate purposes of course). I am not sure why this happens. Does drug trafficking offer greater freedom than energy production? Or is Colombia like the USA where oil and gas production money is used by conservatives against the socialists / Democrats in the financial world? I would imagine it cannot be traced as easily by organizations like the IMF.
Oil is Colombia's #1 cash export so if they quit drilling, a falling peso is sure to result. The question then is if the narco operations are going to make up for the fall. They did in Bolivia but not in Venezuela. That would actually be good for mongers as the dollar would rise further still. The problem is you have promised the poor all this money and if you no longer have as much oil money, there likely will be relaxation on rules with regards to theft. In Brazil, Venezuela, Bolivia, Mexico, and even now in many of the Democratic states in the USA, theft went through the roof when the socialists moved in.
Duque was looking at tourism as Colombia's next great money maker, a good move, but he botched it IMO with his horrible Covid response. If he kept Colombia open like Mexico did, tourists would have flooded the country. If this guy wants to go ahead with the plan, he better keep Colombia safe or at least not worse with regards to safety.
The narcos like their women so the chance of the hobby going way down is unlikely. OTOH, in a few years, I suspect mongers will be looking over their shoulders a lot more than ever before.
NorthernLight
06-20-22, 17:11
I'm pretty sure the US is going to take the same extreme action they took when Uruguay elected a former leftist rebel as President. And Colombia will probably experience the same total collapse as Uruguay under Mujica.I love it. Excellent answer! People without background knowledge don't understand your humor. Hahaha.
I thought that the US (CIA and FBI) hated all leftists.They do. But the ones that allow the USA a free pass to exploit its resources, are tolerated. Only the ones that refuse to be subservient are targetted for coups and embargoes and wars.
Elvis 2008
06-20-22, 18:57
They do. But the ones that allow the USA a free pass to exploit its resources, are tolerated. Only the ones that refuse to be subservient are targetted for coups and embargoes and wars.Maybe that is how things were, but Venezuela constantly went back on its word. The Europeans and Chinese got screwed just as badly as the Americans in Venezuela. Exxon sued Venezuela in world court and won. Chavez was convinced the Western world needed his oil but companies invested in USA shale and the Vaca Muerta field in Argentina.
https://www.bbva.com/en/vaca-muerta-worlds-second-largest-shale-gas-deposit/
The USA Department of Energy calculated that combined, USA And Argentina's shale gas and shale oil resources account for 32% of the world's crude and 10% of its natural gas.
The villains in Bolivia were not American energy companies but Brazilian. Morales sent out the national guard to seize the natural gas wells and Lula wisely backed off a military action. Afterwards, Morales reneged on the original deal, raised gas prices, and had a short lived economic miracle. Of course, any action like this, stealing what is not yours, works in the short run but fails in the long run because no one wants to invest in a country where you build up a business and once it is profitable, the government steals it or buys it on the cheap.
Venezuelan law was that any country in Venezuela had to pay out 50% of its profits to shareholders in the form of dividends. The goal was to make sure shareholders do not get ripped off by companies and to me, that was an interesting take but when I went to Venezuela after having invested in said phone company, the Venezuelans were hostile to any Americans getting one penny of dividends. And that is when I knew the company and country were doomed. Why would anyone invest in a country like that when you have ones like Chile who welcome you with open arms and are hostile towards the notion that stealing is okay?
For all the socialistic talk of helping the poor, demonizing the rich, and denouncing the USA, Hugo Chavez snuck out $8 billion and put it in his daughter's name and she currently lives in Miami. The issue with me is which kind of socialism / leftist policies is Colombia going to adopt: those of Venezuela and Bolivia or those of Chile.
An almost-developed country, Colombia, gets a new president and people use it as an excuse to espouse their own political predilections, glory and doom, while ignoring reality?
This discussion, as do most political discussions, rises almost to the same level for me as one of my favorite (original) allegories, "a pack of rabid pitbulls in a pool of piranha" that I used here to describe the vaccine debates, all points there now moot, as I predicted.
JuJuBee comes across as an appropriately sardonic voice of reason on this topic. Where do people get the idea that change occurs so easily?? Modern politics move in sludge. No one asked me, and I am not going to give another opinion on this thread.
My guy lost. I doubt I will notice any direct impact on my-way-of-being. Actually, I loved Catgirl's response when I asked her if she cared to share who she was going to vote for, she told me, "I have a blank. " Jajajajjaajajajaaaaaa. She probably voted based on the sound of the candidates names, like many people do.Before the first round of the Presidential election I asked my girlfriend* if she had properly prepared for the election. She wanted to know how to prepare. I told her the most important preparation was to buy a bottle of tequila before the dry law went into effect. Worrying about the outcome of the election, once voting begins is completely useless. Might as well drink.
Catgirl was probably saying "Voto en Blanco."
https://thebogotapost.com/what-is-voto-en-blanco/29983/
Whether you're happy with the Colombian election results or not, look at the bright side. Quite a few Colombian women vowed to post a picture in a thong if Petro won. Twitter and Facebook are entertaining today.
You are sooooo neutral, LOL.Well I don't see any counter-argument from you.
This change has been coming along though and I think Colombia is on the right path towards prosperity as a country. A lot of it has been actually getting in leaders that realized that if they weren't corrupt, they could actually bring a lot of good to the people. From my very superficial view of their politics, I'm happy Petro won because of his choice in vice presidents. Both candidates chose Afro-Latina women, but Petro chose an activist, someone who has a history in politics. His opponent asked for resumes and picked a professor that has never been in politics, a very odd choice.
As for the metro conversation, I spent a good amount of time on it and didn't have too much of a problem with it. The residents of Medellin take a lot of pride in it and it shows. It's just too fucking crowded at times and that's from someone coming from NYC. Getting out of El Centro any time between 5 PM - 7 PM was a nightmare. After spending time in a hotel in LA 70 and one in Poblado, staying in the Nutti made more sense for me given how much I enjoyed El Centro. I'm leaning towards just staying there when I go back next month.
Anyone know if the construction is still going on in Parque Lleras? Or when it's expected to be completed?
And Osteo, my last comment about phones was that if you're using an eSIM, you can't move that eSIM between phones easily for most providers. A physical SIM can bounce around phones with ease. It's generally not a problem for travelling I expect to run into for travelling.Lmfao, you're happy to see a left-wing extremist without any experience of the real world as vice president. Lmfao, because Kamala Harris is doing such a great job! Lmfao. Some people never learn.
I can't believe anyone would have more confidence in a good-for-nothing loudmouth than a professor. The contempt for knowledge and experience is real.
The USA tries. It sanctioned Nicaragua, Cuba, Venezuela, Bolivia. All for electing presidents that the people wanted and the USA didn't. Much of Central America has also recently shifted left. And El Salvador didn't go left but also elected an anti-establishment people's president. There is a growing solidarity in the region, which can only benefit all. If enough of them can elect presidents with integrity, I think there will be major changes, not just in their relationships with the USA, but opportunites for the people. Also sounds like Colombia will normalise relations with Venezuela, wihch may make Venezuela a more attractive destination for single men, but reduce the nuimber of Venezuelanas on the streets of Colombia.Lmfao, soon they might even have more solidarity than Venezuela! Lmfao!
Bernie Sander is also Socialist. Socialist doesn't equal to anti-America. And after October Brazil election, almost entire Latin America will have lefty government in office. Is US going to sanction them all?All socialists are against the West.
Seriously? You think a leftist like Petro who believes in alleviating poverty and corruption in Colombia is "like" a military propped up dictator who believes in lining his own pockets and the rest of the population of Venezuela be damned. I don't think they are even remotely similar.The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
Lets see what happens, Venezuela didn't see it coming.
Catgirl was probably saying "Voto en Blanco."
https://thebogotapost.com/what-is-voto-en-blanco/29983/Isn't it a wonderful sign that I might not communicate effectively with my novia of going on three-years? Jajajajaja. My fall back will be, "Ignorance is Bliss".
I had 2 sessions today in El Centro that I dare not write about because few would believe me. The lull that I have been expecting ever since annexing Scarlet from my sex life finally occurred and no one was lining themselves up to be my personal playground today. Crickets. That is one of the beauties of staying at The Nutti. I took the five-minute stroll, and Ground Zero did not disappoint.
Round One I found Mini-Vennie's or Sugar Baby's sister. I doubt she will ever become a kept woman like her sister, but they share the same mother and there is enough DNA there to make her worthwhile. I booked an hour, it was slow because of the Corpus Christi Day holiday and the staff didn't come knocking on our door until 90 minutes later (I usually tip the check-in girl, and the maids, two mil COP each or fifty cents USA and they never rush me). We almost fell asleep in each other's arms, she on top me, we hadn't moved in twenty minutes. That's right, Romance at Ground Zero and we did everything except anal, but we used a condom for fucking. I gave her a huge tip because the session was phenomenal and I have met her infant kid and been to her place over at Hotel Puta, before. Not to mention she exists in the shadow of her much more attractive Sugar Baby sister.
I came down 15 minutes after she left and dayum if she didn't fix me up right outside the hotel with one of her friends. We made a You-turn (fucking auto-editor) back into the hotel and had a crazy session where both parties did waaaay to much tussi but ended up happy. I straggled behind and tried to make a play from my bed for a girl standing in the hall at the window because she was so cute, I was too high, and it felt like fantasy fulfilment. Turned out she was the younger sister of the check-in girl who worked behind the glass, and definitely not P4P.
One of the maids came over and explained the situation to me. Then three more maids, and then the sister from behind the glass came out to join us. By the time we were done we were all practically rolling on the floor laughing. I tipped everyone with a two mil COP note until I ran out of twos then I gave the older sister a fin. They said the front room on that floor, considered desirable real estate, was now "my" room, jajajaja.
I was too high to be walking around El Centro but was able to make a controlled bee-line back to my room and pass out in bed until now. I am going back over because on my way out I spotted one of my "dream" chicas from a previous trip to Ground Zero months ago and who I only ever sessioned once and then lost track of her. She agreed then to come to my hotel in the future and if I am lucky enough to snag her, she allows fotos and you will see why I say "lucky. " Ostee Out and I will Keep On Keepin' On.
1. Nothing at all will change until his inauguration.
2. After his inauguration nothing will continue to change for several months.
3. After several months there might be some tiny changes, but it will likely take years before they have a significant impact on the mongering scene.
4. There's a microscopic possibility he will attempt to make some drastic changes. If so, the Colombian Supreme Court will almost certainly whack his peepee and nothing will change.These are facts. So much for the Chicken Littles. Yawns.
Lmfao, you're happy to see a left-wing extremist without any experience of the real world as vice president. Lmfao, because Kamala Harris is doing such a great job! Lmfao. Some people never learn.
I can't believe anyone would have more confidence in a good-for-nothing loudmouth than a professor. The contempt for knowledge and experience is real.On one hand we have a professor who's been in academia for her entire life.
On the other we have an activist who in the 90's stopped a gold mining company from polluting her local river; in the 00's and 10's led protests against illegal mining, receiving international recognition for her work; also in the 10's participated in the peace negotiations with the FARC, eventually being elected to the council that monitored compliance with the peace agreement. She also became a lawyer during that time.
Regardless of politics, one of the two has more leadership and more real world experience. We're talking pure experience in politics and which candidate would be a better choice for a running mate.
I still maintain that if Colombia is able to continue to reduce corruption and redirect money towards bettering its people, their country is headed in the right direction. The investment I've seen and heard of in their schools and children further reinforces this opinion of mine.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
Lets see what happens, Venezuela didn't see it coming.Colombia is a long standing US ally, have had leftist presidents before and little will change, irrespective of any Chicken Littles in Sweden who frequents the free for all threads but has never been to the country.
Lmfao, you're happy to see a left-wing extremist without any experience of the real world as vice president. Lmfao, because Kamala Harris is doing such a great job! Lmfao. Some people never learn.
I can't believe anyone would have more confidence in a good-for-nothing loudmouth than a professor. The contempt for knowledge and experience is real.As they say, elections have consequences, but from the perspective of a Swedish basement eating pickled herring and dreaming of buying pussy it doesn't make a lot of difference. LMAO.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.Colombia is Colombia is Colombia. Nordic Chicken Littles and worn out clichιs from afar are of no consequence.
Round One I found Mini-Vennie's or Sugar Baby's sister. I doubt she will ever become a kept woman like her sister, but they share the same mother and there is enough DNA there to make her worthwhile. I booked an hour, it was slow because of the Corpus Christi Day holiday and the staff didn't come knocking on our door until 90 minutes later (I usually tip the check-in girl, and the maids, two mil COP each or fifty cents USA and they never rush me). We almost fell asleep in each other's arms, she on top me, we hadn't moved in twenty minutes. That's right, Romance at Ground Zero and we did everything except anal, but we used a condom for fucking. I gave her a huge tip because the session was phenomenal and I have met her infant kid and been to her place over at Hotel Puta, before. Not to mention she exists in the shadow of her much more attractive Sugar Baby sister.Romance? With your Just for Men mustache? I mean seriously, right underneath your sickenly chemically induced nose? And we are expected to take this seriousy? ***** please! LOL.
Colombia is Colombia is Colombia. Nordic Chicken Littles and worn out clichs from afar are of no consequence.You're a mentally deranged weirdo. You need some serious psychical help and medication.
ChuchoLoco
06-24-22, 21:04
Lmfao, you're happy to see a left-wing extremist without any experience of the real world as vice president. Lmfao, because Kamala Harris is doing such a great job! Lmfao. Some people never learn.
I can't believe anyone would have more confidence in a good-for-nothing loudmouth than a professor. The contempt for knowledge and experience is real.Kinda reminds me of when Sara was on the Republican ticket right from the trailer park. Both sides are stupid especially when it's an old guy running as president. No fool like an old fool. By the way, Medellin is full of old fools and young girls who take advantage. Keep laughing it's good for you. Also, remember this, America is full of fools and most have roots in Europe.
You're a mentally deranged weirdo. You need some serious psychical help and medication.He also hasn't a clue about politics. He wrote "Colombia. Had leftist presidents before" Love him to name even one.
Kinda reminds me of when Sara was on the Republican ticket right from the trailer park. First, her name is Sarah, not Sara. She was the governor of Alaska when she was selected to run as vice-president. Governors don't live in trailer parks, not even governors of Arkansas.
ChuchoLoco
06-25-22, 19:30
First, her name is Sarah, not Sara. She was the governor of Alaska when she was selected to run as vice-president. Governors don't live in trailer parks, not even governors of Arkansas.How long was she the governor? Still talked and acted like a trailer park person or did you really think that I meant she lived in one? Be real.
She was and is as dump as the current VP. My point was that both Old Joe and Old John both picked young dumb women as running mates. Just from different parties. Doesn't matter if you are a the or are, an old fool is an old fool and a young dumb running mate is a young dumb running mate.
First, her name is Sarah, not Sara. She was the governor of Alaska when she was selected to run as vice-president. Governors don't live in trailer parks, not even governors of Arkansas.Ahh yes Sarah Palin, the stupid country hick b‘tch from Alaska that ran with McCain and lost to Obama / Biden. She was quite an annoying b‘tch and she would never shut the fuck up. "I'm from Wasilla, my state borders Russia, I know foreign policy, blah, blah" she needed McCain's limp buscuit stuffed in her mouth in order to shut her the fuck up LOL.
What are the key talking points besides virgin?The claim that he "is learning" despite paying over an already inflated and inaccurate taxi fare.
Claim that he has never seen street girls before.
Virgin yet on ISG.
Claim that he doesn't feel anything from naked girls.
Claim that women are soft.
Claim that he didn't even come.
Claim that he didn't know poverty was bad salchipapas.
I strikes me as a load of trolling, sry to say. I wonder if others think the same?
Now - "I bought some lubricant to see if that will help if I put it in the condom. "
Ok, agreed. These are not key talking points (apart from paying too much). Just playing dumb for the attention. Like the other attention seekers here do it other ways.
The claim that he "is learning" despite paying over an already inflated and inaccurate taxi fare.
Claim that he has never seen street girls before.
Virgin yet on ISG.
Claim that he doesn't feel anything from naked girls.
Claim that women are soft.
Claim that he didn't even come.
Claim that he didn't know poverty was bad salchipapas.
I strikes me as a load of trolling, sry to say. I wonder if others think the same?
Now - "I bought some lubricant to see if that will help if I put it in the condom. "
Just playing dumb for the attention. Like the other attention seekers here do it other ways.I find this so funny lmao because I'm not trolling. Everything I am writing here is 100% truth. I have no reason to lie. Now let me address some points individually.
OK so the pay an insane amount for the taxi was newbie mistake. Honestly. It was 12 or 1 am and I just didn't care. Literally first time in Colombia.
I've been stalking this forum for a little bit so I know about street walkers and I see all those YouTube videos with the Centro girls and Lleras girls. I've seen so many that I YouTube can't recommend me new videos I haven't seen. What I meant is that I've never seen a street walkers irl. I'm from New York city for crying out loud LOL.
I said I don't feel anything from doing it with a condom with girls. It actually kinda hurts. Lube is working. Maybe I need more.
Yes women are soft as I've come to realize. Like if your butt is not fake (I haven't touched a fake butt yet) and you don't work out it is soft LOL and tits are soft LOL they might be heavy tho.
The first time in la Isla I didn't come and the first time in loutron I didn't come either. It was a little awkward. I was just like let's talk forget this sex stuff it's not going to work. I did come with an escort like an hour ago. Getting better so I'm happy.
Ok yes the poverty thing. I've seen the homeless people sleeping in random places but it didn't really hit me until that guy wanted what I considered trash. He was so happy when he got it too. There. Have been so many people begging for money. I thought I was poor. Seeing this smacked me in the face now I understand. Some these people have literally nothing. Sadness.
And yes those salchipapas were not that great. Tasted like potato chips and it had cheese which I told them not to put cheese. I don't like cheese. My friend from Cali told me that not all places are good. So I still have hope.
I hope this clears things up. I'm really not trolling. I'm just documenting my experiences, trying to get better at this, and trying to provide useful information.
Peace.
The claim that he "is learning" despite paying over an already inflated and inaccurate taxi fare.
Claim that he has never seen street girls before.
Virgin yet on ISG.
Claim that he doesn't feel anything from naked girls.
Claim that women are soft.
Claim that he didn't even come.
Claim that he didn't know poverty was bad salchipapas.
I strikes me as a load of trolling, sry to say. I wonder if others think the same?
Now - "I bought some lubricant to see if that will help if I put it in the condom. "
Ok, agreed. These are not key talking points (apart from paying too much). Just playing dumb for the attention. Like the other attention seekers here do it other ways.I agree and it seems kind of odd that he would pop up on ISG of all places saying he's a virgin and mongering in medellin. Alot of what he is stating in his posts just doesn't make sense imo.
I'm wondering if he's not even really in medellin at all and just RTFF and is recycling information he found and adding in his stupid questions like about adding lube inside the condoms, etc.
Thanks for the reply.
The claim that he "is learning" despite paying over an already inflated and inaccurate taxi fare...He knows what the taxi fair is, maybe not the exact amount but close enough, and who knows what taxi he was taking from the airport. He overpaid but that does not have effect on me as long as it's not me who is paying. Just like the member who picked the girl based on youtube video. It has no effect on me who he picked.
I rarely ask question but I read the forum. From reading his post, I know I should be prepared to have changes for taxi. I can get changes from La Isla to pay for taxi. Those would be two of the several things I could have learned from his post if I were new,.
He knows what the taxi fair is, maybe not the exact amount but close enough, and who knows what taxi he was taking from the airport.
I rarely ask question but I read the forum..Taxi fare from arpt is 90, he paid nearly double that, plus tip. Anyway, I am not saying he is necessarily a newbier that is trolling. He could be a current or ex member with a second account, or just an experienced non-member monger that is having a joke by seeing how ISG reacts to his story of a virgin's first tri pin MDE.
Anhyway, likesays, its just my suspicion. It changes nothing. I enjoy a good fiction book as much as the next person.
Taxi fare from arpt is 90, he paid nearly double that, plus tip. Anyway, I am not saying he is necessarily a newbier that is trolling. He could be a current or ex member with a second account, or just an experienced non-member monger that is having a joke by seeing how ISG reacts to his story of a virgin's first tri pin MDE.
Anhyway, likesays, its just my suspicion. It changes nothing. I enjoy a good fiction book as much as the next person.I am not rebuking your view based on your explanation and I thank you for your reply. I agree with your view if I have the same consideration as you. I am also explaining why I see it differently because I ignore the things that I can't prove or verify, like him being a virgin, or overpaid taxi fair from airport. Those things simply don't affect me and I can't prove him wrong. For me, there is no value so I don't react to it. After all, you wondered why I think it is a good report, right? That makes me want to explain my view.
That being said, he knows the taxi fair is 100 mil (I know it is off a little) but more or less close enough for a newbie. If he had said the taxi driver offered him 20 mil and he bargained it down to 10 mil, then my reaction would be different.
Ahh yes Sarah Palin, the stupid country hick btch from Alaska that ran with McCain and lost You know, your name is a spanish soup, according to marjorie taylor green?
You know, your name is a spanish soup, according to marjorie taylor green?My name is a synonym for gringo. Not sure what soup Marjorie Taylor Green was referring to but she is another one of those stupid b*tches like Sarah and Kamala so I wouldn't be surprised.
I looked it up, apparently she must have meant "gazpacho"
I looked it up further, it had nothing to do with my name, she mixed up the words "gestapo" and "gazpacho" saying that Nancy Polosi has a gazpacho police. Apparently these are an elite police force that show up in your kitchen and confiscate your chilled tomato soup.
He also hasn't a clue about politics. He wrote "Colombia. Had leftist presidents before" Love him to name even one.And what exactly do you think a leftist is?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-wing_politics
If you reasonable count liberals as leftist.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_presidents_of_Colombia
Then it would be fair to say there have been a lot of Colombian presidents who were "leftist".
My name is a synonym for gringo. Not sure what soup Marjorie Taylor Green was referring to but she is another one of those stupid b*tches like Sarah and Kamala so I wouldn't be surprised.
I looked it up, apparently she must have meant "gazpacho"
I looked it up further, it had nothing to do with my name, she mixed up the words "gestapo" and "gazpacho" saying that Nancy Polosi has a gazpacho police. Apparently these are an elite police force that show up in your kitchen and confiscate your chilled tomato soup.And what makes you think Kamala Harris is a stupid b*tch? Is it that she graduated from a very good competitive university? Or was it that she completed her professional education at a very good (but not great) law school? Or perhaps because she became the District Attorney for San Francisco, a position she held for 7 years? It couldn't be because she was the Attorney General for the State of California for 6 years? Oh I know. It was because she was elected to the Senate from California?
I would love to hear what your qualifications are that would give you the "authority" to classify Kamala as a stupid b*itch.
As to Sarah Palin and Marjorie Taylor Greene. OK, I buy it, no explanation required.
PedroMorales
06-26-22, 22:40
My name is a synonym for gringo. Gόero, Ώno?
I use gόero. I think only Americans use gringo (cowboy movies) . Though there are many home grown Blondies in Latin American (19th century immigration).
My name is a synonym for gringo. Not sure what soup Marjorie Taylor Green was referring to but she is another one of those stupid b*tches like Sarah and Kamala so I wouldn't be surprised.
I looked it up, apparently she must have meant "gazpacho"
I looked it up further, it had nothing to do with my name, she mixed up the words "gestapo" and "gazpacho" saying that Nancy Polosi has a gazpacho police. Apparently these are an elite police force that show up in your kitchen and confiscate your chilled tomato soup.It was a little joke, don't worry about it, Gestapo, I mean Gazpacho, I mean Gabacho.
I am not rebuking your view based on your explanation and I thank you for your reply. I agree with your view if I have the same consideration as you. I am also explaining why I see it differently because I ignore the things that I can't prove or verify, like him being a virgin, or overpaid taxi fair from airport. Those things simply don't affect me and I can't prove him wrong. For me, there is no value so I don't react to it. After all, you wondered why I think it is a good report, right? That makes me want to explain my view.
That being said, he knows the taxi fair is 100 mil (I know it is off a little) but more or less close enough for a newbie. If he had said the taxi driver offered him 20 mil and he bargained it down to 10 mil, then my reaction would be different.Add me to the list of skeptics.
Others have mentioned several suspicious things. Here are a few more. I don't believe there is a bench in La Isla outside of the girl's dressing room. Standing at the point farthest from the bar at La Isla would be on the left side, not the right, where the picture was taken from. Also, from either spot the entrance to La Isla is right of the bar. The exit is to the left, at the other end of the club.
Another problem is that the pictures he has posted quite obviously came from 3 different cameras, possibly 4.
The biggest problem for me is that his language usage is not consistent. Everyone has a certain rhythm to their writing. It's the same with behavior. Trying to write or act like someone else is difficult. Actors often spend months becoming the role they will play so they can portray the behavior naturally. Writers spend a long time developing characters. Otherwise the story isn't believable. His writing style isn't consistent and it doesn't flow correctly for a 23 year old from NYC.
Perhaps I'm wrong.
One last thing. Was there a downpour last night? I'm asking because 2 of my girls mentioned the heat yesterday and on hot sunny days, heavy rain usually comes late afternoon. Also, the idea that street girls in Lleras, or Provenza are either carrying or buying umbrellas is not something I can wrap my head around.
And what makes you think Kamala Harris is a stupid b*tch? Is it that she graduated from a very good competitive university? Or was it that she completed her professional education at a very good (but not great) law school? Or perhaps because she became the District Attorney for San Francisco, a position she held for 7 years? It couldn't be because she was the Attorney General for the State of California for 6 years? Oh I know. It was because she was elected to the Senate from California?
I would love to hear what your qualifications are that would give you the "authority" to classify Kamala as a stupid b*itch.
As to Sarah Palin and Marjorie Taylor Greene. OK, I buy it, no explanation required.Are you having your fucking period bro? Sorry if I pushed your buttons LOL. Just listen to her talk and you will understand why Kamala Haris is a stupid b*tch in the same category as Marjorie Taylor Green and Sarah Palin. Only difference is she is a liberal and the other two are conservatives but yes all 3 are stupid b*tches.
PS: you can add Nancy Pelosi to the same category too for that matter.
Gero, no?
I use gero. I think only Americans use gringo (cowboy movies) . Though there are many home grown Blondies in Latin American (19th century immigration).Guero is another often synonymous word with gringo but in Mexico, I've never heard it used in Colombia. But I think guero just means a fair-skinned person as opposed to gringo because you often hear Mexicans refer to fair-skinned Mexicans as guero.
Add me to the list of skeptics.
Others have mentioned several suspicious things. Here are a few more. I don't believe there is a bench in La Isla outside of the girl's dressing room. Standing at the point farthest from the bar at La Isla would be on the left side, not the right, where the picture was taken from. Also, from either spot the entrance to La Isla is right of the bar. The exit is to the left, at the other end of the club.
Another problem is that the pictures he has posted quite obviously came from 3 different cameras, possibly 4.
The biggest problem for me is that his language usage is not consistent. Everyone has a certain rhythm to their writing. It's the same with behavior. Trying to write or act like someone else is difficult. Actors often spend months becoming the role they will play so they can portray the behavior naturally. Writers spend a long time developing characters. Otherwise the story isn't believable. His writing style isn't consistent and it doesn't flow correctly for a 23 year old from NYC.
Perhaps I'm wrong.
One last thing. Was there a downpour last night? I'm asking because 2 of my girls mentioned the heat yesterday and on hot sunny days, heavy rain usually comes late afternoon. Also, the idea that street girls in Lleras, or Provenza are either carrying or buying umbrellas is not something I can wrap my head around.So I was right he is in fact in his parents basement eating doritos and RTFF and making up these wild stories from info he has read here and adding in pictures he found on the web. I think its obvious. And in his most recent post he says he had a Webcam girl come over but no sex? 🤣.
You would have to be naive to believe this shit.
One last thing. Was there a downpour last night? I'm asking because 2 of my girls mentioned the heat yesterday and on hot sunny days, heavy rain usually comes late afternoon. Also, the idea that street girls in Lleras, or Provenza are either carrying or buying umbrellas is not something I can wrap my head around.There was definitely a downpour last night. It was hot yesterday, but the rain didn't start until after 8 pm. I went to bed sometime around midnight and it was raining hard then. I am in Laureles; so can't speak for Poblado, but usually the weather patterns are similar.
So I was right he is in fact in his parents basement eating doritos and RTFF and making up these wild stories from info he has read here and adding in pictures he found on the web. I think its obvious. And in his most recent post he says he had a Webcam girl come over but no sex?
You would have to be naive to believe this shit.I don't know if you were right, but I do believe there are good reasons to doubt the accuracy of his reports.
I'm not certain the webcam story is a clincher. I've been over the subject too many times already. I'll just say that I've almost certainly spent more time with webcam models, in person, than anyone else on ISG. Sharing an apartment with one for 10 months and meeting up with 5-10 every week gave me quite a bit of experience.
It's certainly possible to meet with a webcam model and many are willing to meet and fuck for a price. However, it's most likely to be either completely platonic, or show me the money and let's do this. Groping and DFK seems unlikely, especially with a guy who was a virgin 2 days ago. If he can make that much progress with someone he just met, from another country, he should have been able to get laid long before this.
I see 4 possibilities. The most unlikely is that his stories are true as told. Next up, some things are true, but details have been altered for entertainment purposes. Number 3 is the Dorito eating, basement dweller scenario. The last is a member who created a new account in order to write fiction.
Because the pictures are highly suspect, my money is on the Doritos.
Add me to the list of skeptics.
Others have mentioned several suspicious things. Here are a few more. I don't believe there is a bench in La Isla outside of the girl's dressing room. Standing at the point farthest from the bar at La Isla would be on the left side, not the right, where the picture was taken from. Also, from either spot the entrance to La Isla is right of the bar. The exit is to the left, at the other end of the club.
Another problem is that the pictures he has posted quite obviously came from 3 different cameras, possibly 4.
The biggest problem for me is that his language usage is not consistent. Everyone has a certain rhythm to their writing. It's the same with behavior. Trying to write or act like someone else is difficult. Actors often spend months becoming the role they will play so they can portray the behavior naturally. Writers spend a long time developing characters. Otherwise the story isn't believable. His writing style isn't consistent and it doesn't flow correctly for a 23 year old from NYC.
Perhaps I'm wrong.
One last thing. Was there a downpour last night? I'm asking because 2 of my girls mentioned the heat yesterday and on hot sunny days, heavy rain usually comes late afternoon. Also, the idea that street girls in Lleras, or Provenza are either carrying or buying umbrellas is not something I can wrap my head around.This is sooooo funny to me and not because I'm some dude in my mom's basement making up stories and you guys are reacting like this. It's funny because I'm these things are true no matter how stupid it sounds.
What do o have to do to prove it to you guys. Maybe if nounce gives me a tour of Centro he can vouch.
About the language. My language isn't consistent because I take inspiration from a lot of cultures like gaming (feelsbadman, omega) NYC (that's deep, mad) I'm also Hispanic. So I know Spanish.
Also the fact that you said my language isn't consistent and that writers don't change their language and practice for years to get it consistent are opposing ideas. I'm not making this up. Idk how could be. It seems all legit to me newbie from NYC comes to Colombia after reading ISG used to be virgin bad at sex. What's not believable?
Add me to the list of skeptics.
Others have mentioned several suspicious things. Here are a few more. I don't believe there is a bench in La Isla outside of the girl's dressing room. Standing at the point farthest from the bar at La Isla would be on the left side, not the right, where the picture was taken from. Also, from either spot the entrance to La Isla is right of the bar. The exit is to the left, at the other end of the club.
Another problem is that the pictures he has posted quite obviously came from 3 different cameras, possibly 4.
The biggest problem for me is that his language usage is not consistent. Everyone has a certain rhythm to their writing. It's the same with behavior. Trying to write or act like someone else is difficult. Actors often spend months becoming the role they will play so they can portray the behavior naturally. Writers spend a long time developing characters. Otherwise the story isn't believable. His writing style isn't consistent and it doesn't flow correctly for a 23 year old from NYC.
Perhaps I'm wrong.
One last thing. Was there a downpour last night? I'm asking because 2 of my girls mentioned the heat yesterday and on hot sunny days, heavy rain usually comes late afternoon. Also, the idea that street girls in Lleras, or Provenza are either carrying or buying umbrellas is not something I can wrap my head around.Yes I mentioned it yesterday. It was raining O. D. Idk about the whether patterns haven't been to Laureles for long enough. Only to see Luna lunera closed. And yes I don't know about buying umbrellas but all the Lleras girls had umbrellas.
Also about la Isla. To prove to you I've been there let's see if you find this truthful. If you are facing the bar at la Isla all the way across from the strip poles looking at the bar, the entrance is to your left like behind you. Across from the poles in front of you is the bar surrounded by couches. To your right is where the girls change or something idk they were all going in there maybe it's a bathroom and to the right of the bar you are facing is the exit / place where you go get a room with a girl.
About the camera. No. Same camera unless you count my Samsung s21 having 3 cameras.
I dream of the day when someone other than Nounce day oh ok this information is useful this guy is legit.
Peace.
Yes I mentioned it yesterday. It was raining O. The. . Idk about the whether patterns haven't been to laureles for long enough. Only to see luna lunera closed. And yes I don't know about buying umbrellas but all the Lleras girls had umbrellas.
Also about la Isla. To prove to you I've been there let's see if you find this truthful. If you are facing the bar at la Isla all the way across from the strip poles looking at the bar, the entrance is to your left like behind you. Across from the poles in front of you is the bar sourounded by couches. To your right is where the girls change or something idk they were all going in there maybe it's a bathroom and to the right of the bar you are facing is the exit / place where you go get a room with a girl..You don't need to convince me of anything. My opinion is that your reports are suspect. Your attempts to convince people have increased those suspicions. Here's just one example why:
Let's define the interior of La Isla. Where the bar is located we'll call the front. If you're standing at the back of the bar, the stage runs from front to back. At the front, at the right end of the bar is the entrance. To the right of the entrance is the men's room. If you are standing at the bar, turn left and walk straight ahead you will reach the women's dressing room. Turn left again, walk straight to the back and the entrance to the bedrooms and the club exit will be to your right. Your description has everything in the wrong place.
I have an S22 Ultra. The Gusto and La Isla pictures were taken in low light conditions. The Gusto fotos are clear and sharp, even showing the park below. The La Isla foto obviously had to use a slow shutter speed to compensate for the low light. The photo of the girl, lighting is good, but photo is not sharp, lower resolution than the Gusto fotos. With an S21 that photo should be much better.
Keep up with the reports. Maybe my opinion will change.
It's certainly possible to meet with a webcam model and many are willing to meet and fuck for a price. However, it's most likely to be either completely platonic, or show me the money and let's do this. Groping and DFK seems unlikely, especially with a guy who was a virgin 2 days ago. If he can make that much progress with someone he just met, from another country, he should have been able to get laid long before this.
I had a Webcam model back in May when I was there. (the one I posted pics of in the fucked up centro hotel that JustTK referred to as the children's hospice because of the bed sheets).
She was absolutely gorgeous and gave me some of the best sessions I have had in medellin to date. She tall skinny spinner vennie with dark brown skin. She gave me bareback everything and let me cum inside her, she'd give me back massage afterwards and chill and just talk. I originally was giving her 150 k for an hour but as I started seeing her more thru my trip the hour started turning into 2 or 3 hours. She would always come like at 6 am and stay until 8 or 9 am (she said she worked the webcam shit at night and got off at 5 am thus why she would come at 6 am. We called it our mananeras. She would always message me on whatsapp around 5:15 and let me know she was coming and we would do the share live location thing and I'd watch her on the map as she came from Aranjuez to my hotel in centro. She had the firmest tight body and nice tight pussy. It was an absolute pleasure to have sex with her. I even had gotten her down to 100 k plus taxi fare one day because I said I didn't want to have to go to the ATM. All in all I think I saw her about 6 or 7 times over the course of a month.
But I fucked it all up.
On my last encounter with her I was showing her pics on my phone or something I can't remember and she wanted to see my phone so I was like whatever sure and she went thru my whatsapp and saw my messages LOL. Messages I have with veracruz and botero chicks specifically finding me BBFS girls and bringing them to my hotel
Now the webcam girl hardly even talks to me and says I scared the shit out of her and called me cerdo asqueroso and all kinds of fucking names LOL.
Lesson learned don't let chicas look thru your phone.
Gianni Versace
06-27-22, 17:41
I had a Webcam model back in May when I was there. (the one I posted pics of in the fucked up centro hotel that JustTK referred to as the children's hospice because of the bed sheets).
She was absolutely gorgeous and gave me some of the best sessions I have had in medellin to date. She tall skinny spinner vennie with dark brown skin. She gave me bareback everything and let me cum inside her, she'd give me back massage afterwards and chill and just talk. I originally was giving her 150 k for an hour but as I started seeing her more thru my trip the hour started turning into 2 or 3 hours. She would always come like at 6 am and stay until 8 or 9 am (she said she worked the webcam shit at night and got off at 5 am thus why she would come at 6 am. We called it our mananeras. She would always message me on whatsapp around 5:15 and let me know she was coming and we would do the share live location thing and I'd watch her on the map as she came from Aranjuez to my hotel in centro. She had the firmest tight body and nice tight pussy. It was an absolute pleasure to have sex with her. I even had gotten her down to 100 k plus taxi fare one day because I said I didn't want to have to go to the ATM. All in all I think I say her about 6 or 7 times over the course of a month.
But I fucked it all up.
On my last encounter with her I was showing her pics on my phone or something I can't remember and she wanted to see my phone so I was like whatever sure and she went thru my whatsapp and saw my messages LOL. Messages I have with veracruz and botero chicks specifically finding me BBFS girls and bringing them to hotel
Now the webcam girl hardly even talks to me and says I scared the shit out of her and called me cerdo asqueroso and all kinds of fucking names LOL.
Lesson learned don't let chicas look thru your phone.I think that lesson goes for all girls not just the chicas in Colombia LOL.
Does anyone actually still beleive anything the US Govt says?? Seriously?
Do not travel to the USA due to crime, civil unrest, poor health infrastructure, kidnapping, and the arrest and detention of foreign citizens without due process or fair trial guarantees. Exercise increased caution in the USA due to terrorism.
Violent crimes, such as homicide, armed robbery, kidnapping, and carjacking, are common. Political rallies and demonstrations occur, often with little notice. Demonstrations typically elicit a strong police and security force response that includes the use of tear gas, pepper spray, and rubber bullets against participants, and occasionally devolve into looting and vandalism. United Nations Human Rights Council documented human rights abuses attributed to the Biden regime, including torture, extrajudicial killings, forced disappearances, and detentions without due process and / or fair trial guarantees, or as a pretext for an illegitimate purpose. The DFA issued a Level 3 "Avoid Nonessential Travel" notice on 7 January, 2020, due to inadequate healthcare and the breakdown of the medical infrastructure in the USA.Put a sock in it. If you hate the US so much, don't go there. In the meantime why don't you tell us where you live. Or perhaps it would suck too much in comparison.
But I fucked it all up.
On my last encounter with her I was showing her pics on my phone or something I can't remember and she wanted to see my phone so I was like whatever sure and she went thru my whatsapp and saw my messages LOL. Messages I have with veracruz and botero chicks specifically finding me BBFS girls and bringing them to my hotel.
Lesson learned don't let chicas look thru your phone.
I think that lesson goes for all girls not just the chicas in Colombia LOL.Good point! Just added it to "Villainy's rules".
Are you having your fucking period bro? Sorry if I pushed your buttons LOL. Just listen to her talk and you will understand why Kamala Haris is a stupid b*tch in the same category as Marjorie Taylor Green and Sarah Palin. Only difference is she is a liberal and the other two are conservatives but yes all 3 are stupid b*tches.
PS: you can add Nancy Pelosi to the same category too for that matter.Tranquillo. I agreed with you on 2 out of 3 and liberal vs conservative had nothing to do with it. I'm just curious what your credentials are, that you can call a well-educated and accomplished woman a stupid be*itch.
I take it since you wanted to make it about my "buttons" that you likely have no credentials or accomplishments to speak of . So it's OK bro. I'm pretty sure it doesn't apply here, but the 1st Amendment to the US Constitution does give you the right to speak (or in this case, write) foolishly.
Put a sock in it. If you hate the US so much, don't go there. In the meantime why don't you tell us where you live. Or perhaps it would suck too much in comparison.Doesn't he live in MDE?
Doesn't he live in MDE?Hehe, right! He doesn't appreciate that all I did was copy the words used in the article that I was referring to, and replaced "Venezuela" with "USA", just to show how biased the article was. If mine was a "anti-American rant", then the article must have been an "anti-Venezuelan rant".
Hehe, right! He doesn't appreciate that all I did was copy the words used in the article that I was referring to, and replaced "Venezuela" with "USA", just to show how biased the article was. If mine was a "anti-American rant", then the article must have been an "anti-Venezuelan rant".You didn't refer to anything and you periodically go off on your anti-US rants. SO tell me. Where are you from that is so much better?
Add me to the list of skeptics.
.... I don't believe there is a bench in La Isla outside of the girl's dressing room. ....When is the last time you went to La Isla? It's been remodeled and layout has changed.
Doesn't he live in MDE?Or his mom's basement. Anybody has met him? Just Kidding, I think Surfer has met him before. I have to do it so he can taste his own medicine. LOL.
Or his mom's basement. Anybody has met him? Just Kidding, I think Surfer has met him before. I have to do it so he can taste his own medicine. LOL.At least 2 other prominent members have met me. If you want to meet up you better do it fast bcos I am out of here pretty soon. I dunno where I will be in the long term, but in the short term I will be in a place where many fear to tread. It should be an interesting adventure and one that has been prompted by my experiences in Colombia over the past few years.
And BTW: Criminal was wrong as usual. Here is the article and post I clearly responded to:
"https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/traveladvisories/venezuela-travel-advisory.html.
Yikes nevermind. ".
Tranquillo. I agreed with you on 2 out of 3 and liberal vs conservative had nothing to do with it. I'm just curious what your credentials are, that you can call a well-educated and accomplished woman a stupid be*itch.
I take it since you wanted to make it about my "buttons" that you likely have no credentials or accomplishments to speak of . So it's OK bro. I'm pretty sure it doesn't apply here, but the 1st Amendment to the US Constitution does give you the right to speak (or in this case, write) foolishly.Similar to my recent rant about "respected members" here. No one here is a paid consultant. Credentials and accomplishments have no place in a forum such as this. The content speaks for itself independent of the education, social status, wealth, religion, perceived intelligence, color of the skin or any other way you care to categorize a user. Everyone here at least starts with equal footing. This is the unfiltered InterWeb. Please leave so called "credentials" out of the conversation. I may have been guilty of the same in the past but really, each post should be judged on it's own merit independent of the source. Granted, some users are extremely predictable and seem to get bent a certain way every time, but the entire structure of this board and the way messages appear and fade, means all that really counts is what you see and read in real time.
These are 2 great independent news clips on the new president of Colombia. Watch them if you would like to listen to the issues not shaped by the political narrative of your own country.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmIuqC2Rn1w&t=62s (UK. Watch til 11:40).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xay_2RusUew (Canada).
Similar to my recent rant about "respected members" here. No one here is a paid consultant. Credentials and accomplishments have no place in a forum such as this. The content speaks for itself independent of the education, social status, wealth, religion, perceived intelligence, color of the skin or any other way you care to categorize a user. Everyone here at least starts with equal footing. This is the unfiltered InterWeb. Please leave so called "credentials" out of the conversation. I may have been guilty of the same in the past but really, each post should be judged on it's own merit independent of the source. Granted, some users are extremely predictable and seem to get bent a certain way every time, but the entire structure of this board and the way messages appear and fade, means all that really counts is what you see and read in real time.Yeah, you might have been on a 2 see induced halluciogenic rant. No one really cares if someone calls someone an idiot (or stupid be*itch in this case). But context is important if it is to be taken with even 1/1000th of a grain of salt. Is the OP an idiot? In which case his opinions should be ignored as a bad use of electrons (meaning his words on the internet). OR is the poster actually accomplished or well educated? Maybe then his comments merit consideration. The point, Ostee, was, there was no context.
Did the "stupid be*tch" vote to prevent drilling in San Francisco Bay and the OP is an oil guy and found that vote offensive? Or did she propose legislation while in the Senate to require sobriety monitoring devices in all new vehicles? Good goal but horrible invasive idea.
Given the "stupid be*itch" at issue is very well educated and has a very accomplished career, I think at least some explanation is warranted for the comment to be taken as more than "idiot speak."
Yeah, you might have been on a 2 see induced halluciogenic rant. No one really cares if someone calls someone an idiot (or stupid be*itch in this case). But context is important if it is to be taken with even 1/1000th of a grain of salt. Is the OP an idiot? In which case his opinions should be ignored as a bad use of electrons (meaning his words on the internet). OR is the poster actually accomplished or well educated? Maybe then his comments merit consideration. The point, Ostee, was, there was no context.
Did the "stupid be*tch" vote to prevent drilling in San Francisco Bay and the OP is an oil guy and found that vote offensive? Or did she propose legislation while in the Senate to require sobriety monitoring devices in all new vehicles? Good goal but horrible invasive idea.
Given the "stupid be*itch" at issue is very well educated and has a very accomplished career, I think at least some explanation is warranted for the comment to be taken as more than "idiot speak."Are we still going on about the Kamala Harris being a stupid b*tch thing? I was going to just let it go for the sake of not starting an argument on here but since you guys want to bring it up agn, let's see.
1. She claims to be African American when she in fact is not. This even surprised me and was brought to my attention by my ex-fiance / bm who is black. Kamala is actually masquerading as an African American so she could win over black voters, she actually is like half Jamaican and half Indian and shares little in common with African American culture.
2. She claimed to be a progressive prosecutor when she was SF District Attorney, offering delayed sentences, diversion programs, charging felonies as misdemeanors, etc. Which resulted in an increase in crime that you see in SF (smash and grab robberies at Walgreens, increased shoplifting, muggings, etc.).
3. She fucked Willie Brown to get into her career.
4. When she gives interviews and press conferences she always deflects questions and doesn't give the answers to simple yes or no questions. She just deflects the questions and then does her annoying laugh.
5. She doesn't have any real experience in politics. Her domestic policy is a joke too. Wasn't she placed in charge of fixing the problems at the border? Look at what just happened in San Antonio with the 53 dead migrants in the truck trailer?
6. She is a fucking disgrace.
Yeah, you might have been on a 2 see induced halluciogenic rant. No one really cares if someone calls someone an idiot (or stupid be*itch in this case). But context is important if it is to be taken with even 1/1000th of a grain of salt. Is the OP an idiot? In which case his opinions should be ignored as a bad use of electrons (meaning his words on the internet). OR is the poster actually accomplished or well educated? Maybe then his comments merit consideration. The point, Ostee, was, there was no context.
Did the "stupid be*tch" vote to prevent drilling in San Francisco Bay and the OP is an oil guy and found that vote offensive? Or did she propose legislation while in the Senate to require sobriety monitoring devices in all new vehicles? Good goal but horrible invasive idea.
Given the "stupid be*itch" at issue is very well educated and has a very accomplished career, I think at least some explanation is warranted for the comment to be taken as more than "idiot speak."A little bit of a low blow evoking tussi as part of my reasoning, but I can handle it. "Idiot speak" speaks for itself, without any additional explanation. You may have the last word if needed, on this thread.
1. She claims to be African American when she in fact is not. This even surprised me and was brought to my attention by my ex-fiance / bm who is black. Kamala is actually masquerading as an African American so she could win over black voters, she actually is like half Jamaican and half Indian and shares little in common with African American culture.Yes her father was Jamaican. How did the blacks in Jamaica get there? Same way as in the US. She was born and grew up in Oakland. Ever been there? It sure isn't exactly pale over there. I'm pretty sure she identified as black (afro-american) growing up. She attended Howard University which is a HBCU. (Historically Black College / University) She is 1/2 black, after all.
Just as an aside, there aren't that many blacks in the US that don't have some amount of "plantation blood". Should they be called frauds also??
2. She claimed to be a progressive prosecutor when she was SF District Attorney, offering delayed sentences, diversion programs, charging felonies as misdemeanors, etc. Which resulted in an increase in crime that you see in SF (smash and grab robberies at Walgreens, increased shoplifting, muggings, etc.).Maybe you don't remember the Democratic primaries. Harris was ousted because her record was too tough on crime. I know you don't believe it but I remember it, she was a star after the first debate because she stuck a knife in Biden. She became the instant super-star but after that Tulsi Gabbert gutted her on her record as a overly tough District Attorney and later Attorney General for California. She wasn't able to defend against those charges.
3. She fucked Willie Brown to get into her career.Not the greatest judgement dating a married man. But we all be fuckin' someone. As to Willie helping her? She won the election for District Attorney of SF and she won reelection unopposed. I think Senator Diane Feinstein's support had more to do with helping her than anything else.
4. When she gives interviews and press conferences she always deflects questions and doesn't give the answers to simple yes or no questions. She just deflects the questions and then does her annoying laugh.If you say so. I think of her as the prototypical vice-president. Rarely seen and even more rarely heard.
5. She doesn't have any real experience in politics. Her domestic policy is a joke too. Wasn't she placed in charge of fixing the problems at the border? Look at what just happened in San Antonio with the 53 dead migrants in the truck trailerTotal BS. 7 years as District Attorney of SF, 6 years as Attorney General of California, 4 years as US Senator from California. All of those are elected positions. That would give her more experience in politics than many of our Presidents. And a hell of a lot more than the last clown.
Oddly enough you don't seem to understand that the VP doesn't "set policy" the president does.
President Biden has directed Ambassador Susan Rice, Assistant to the President for Domestic Policy, to lead a Domestic Policy Council system that brings greater dignity, equity, opportunity, and prosperity to the everyday lives of Americans. Staffed by policy experts on a range of issues, the DPC will craft and implement policies on everything from education to health and immigration, along with cross-cutting issues that tackle the profound and multifaceted challenges and opportunities before us.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/dpc/
She was asked to find a solution to the problems at the Southern border and hasn't had any success. I think it is absurd to say it is her fault that the 53 migrants died in the trailer. No one in 100 years has been able to fix the problem at the border. Trump's wall sure didn't seem to stop anything. What was that poem??
Your wall is pretty, Your wall is new.
Over, under, around and through.
We like to call it Trump avenue.
6. She is a fucking disgrace.Whatever you say buddy. I'm sure your irrationality would change 180 degrees if she put an R next to her name. Oh and before you ask it. I'm not Willie Brown.
So why do I defend her? For some years I worked in the Securities Industry. (But not in California) One of the big problems was that many state and municipal investment managers started taking "incentives" to learn about the derivatives markets (options basically) and they started making outrageously risky moves which nearly bankrupted some municipalities and Harris as attorney general pushed for and got through legislation than prohibited or drastically curtailed the amount of risk that cities and counties could take on. When they started to lose revenue, they were forced to adhere to a budget and cut salaries or positions. This was critical in helping California from continuously having to bail out counties and cities that went bankrupt.
Are we still going on about the Kamala Harris being a stupid b*tch thing? I was going to just let it go for the sake of not starting an argument on here but since you guys want to bring it up agn, let's see. ...I can add another point. A Democrat being elected to any position in California does not make them "accomplished". As you stated, she got her start in politics by fucking Willie Brown. After that, she only had to get her name, with a D next to it, on the ballot.
If she is so accomplished, why did she drop out of the presidential race so early? Also, why does she have a 35% approval rating, and a 48% disapproval?
I can add another point. A Democrat being elected to any position in California does not make them "accomplished".Fair enough but she did have to win primaries and at least one run-off to get elected.
As you stated, she got her start in politics by fucking Willie Brown.Trump was married and fucking porn-stars and playmates. I did hear you guys belly-aching about that. So what bothered you more? The color of her skin or who she shared her vagina with?
If she is so accomplished, why did she drop out of the presidential race so early?She started out as a star in the first debate when she humiliated Biden. But afterwards Tulsi Gabbert killed her by claiming she was a harsh District Attorney for SF and Attorney General for California and there was no good answer to those charges. After that everyone piled on and she plummeted in the polls and dropped out.
Also, why does she have a 35% approval rating, and a 48% disapproval?I don't know. Noone said she was charming or lovable. But that doesn't make her stupid.
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