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Remember when I asked you to, for once in your life, be honest? Can't do it, can you?
I'm not digging up the post, but this is what you said:
You have "maybe had 1 who was a 9, and maybe 4 or 5 who were 8's. ".
That's either equal to or 1 greater than the number of fingers on one hand. "Quite a few" really doesn't seem appropriate, especially when you led off with "6's and 7's, hundreds of them. " As JustTK pointed out, once it was pointed out, you changed your story to hundreds of 7's and only a few 6's. Was that "quite a few" 6's (5 or 6), or just a few (3 or 4)?
But that's without addressing the qualifier, "maybe. ".
You stated you've never had a 10, but maybe a single 9. Most likely the maybe 9 was an 8. For someone so obsessed with the 1-10 scale, either you suck at using it (due to the "maybe") or you exaggerated because your self-esteem issues can't handle admitting the truth.
The same works with the 4 or 5 who were maybe 8's. Either you're uncertain what an 8 is supposed to look like, or you boosted 7's to 8's to avoid facing your inability to live up to your boasts.
At this point, I doubt if there are many who believe you've ever hit above a 7, and it's possible, you've rarely topped 6, on the scale you want everyone else to use.
If you want "stunners", but rarely find any "stunners", why are you wasting your money? Within your scale, as you've explained it, there are 4 levels, unacceptable (1-6), acceptable (7), stunner (8-9) and perfect (10). Yet, only 1-2% of the time, at best, do you get anything above acceptable (and that's only if your word can be trusted, which, by boosting 5-6 to "quite a few", you've shown to be a bad bet).
Either you're doing things completely wrong, or your doing it in the wrong place. For example, if I see a "stunner", and I want that stunner, then I get her. If I want one, but don't see any, then I look elsewhere.
What I don't do is brag incessantly about searching for, finding and getting stunners, when all I'm really doing is dreaming about stunners and only getting women who barely meet my standards.The word "maybe" refers to the number of girls, not the scale / ratings. I don't have a spreadsheet that says in 2019 I fucked X 8's, why 7's or Z 9's. I don't keep track of all the girls I have fucked over the years. Some girls I still do remember, others I do not. I have to go through all the pics stored on my iCloud to count them more accurately. I'm sure that "quite a few" is more than 4 or 5, maybe 10, maybe more. Again, I don't keep track. And it doesn't matter if I had 4 or 10 or 15 8's and above, the point I was trying to make is that whatever that number is, I consider it low relative to the total number of girls I have ever fucked. But the stunners I had were all worth the time, money and effort spent.
Your "stunner" example refers to a casa / strip club setting, where you point at a girl, pay, fuck, and leave. In most other settings, offline or online, you can't just point at a stunner and fuck her guaranteed. You have to stand out, outbid other mongers, interest the girl. And obviously, you have to know what a stunner looks like in order to identify her in the first place, and in order to do that, you have to have a good taste in women. For some El Centro rats any average looking chick is a stunner, because they don't know any better.
You are trying to question my ability to score 7's, let alone 8's and 9's and paint me as a loser who fucks girls that barely meet his minimum standards. What if my minimum standard was 8/10? Would I be considered a loser fucking 8's? And how would I compare vs someone whose minimum standard is 5/10?
You haven't seen any of the girls that I fucked, so you have no clue about their quality. I have seen the pic of your GF, and she is just meh. Any idiot gringo can get a girl of her caliber / attractiveness, with minimal effort, time and money. So, keep dreaming about fucking stunners, while I will be slowly but surely fucking more and more of them.
Elvis 2008
07-29-23, 18:37
I did not think the assholery of Elvis could be exceeded, but you, sir, are truly a complete asshole with zero redeeming features.https://assholeconsulting.com/
Want to be lied to? Hire a regular consultant. Want the truth? Hire an asshole.
When you're sick and tired of paying people $400 an hour to spare your feelings and make you feel good, and you finally decide you want to start solving your problems, it's time to contact Asshole Consulting. At Asshole Consulting we just plain don't have the patience to kiss your ass and guess what you want us to tell you. Instead, we're going to tell you what we think and don't give a shit if that pisses you off. And yes, we're going to charge you for it.
End of quote.
Hey, Haucho, how did you live your life when Covid struck? And how much did you pay a consultant to say you were smart with how you handled the pandemic and pump sunshine up your ass? Maybe you got a better deal and only paid $300 an hour.
Look on the bright side. You are getting asshole consulting from me for free.
And of all the stupid shit on here about Covid, and there was gobs and gobs of it, you were literally the dumbest mother fucker on here when it came to living your life with the pandemic. You even outdid super spreader JJBee.
Only reason you call me an asshole is you are too pig headed to admit you are wrong about anything. And if telling the truth makes me an asshole, then so be it. But the biggest insult I can throw back at you is this: whatever I am, I am not you.
The word "maybe" refers to the number of girls, not the scale / ratings. I don't have a spreadsheet that says in 2019 I fucked X 8's, why 7's or Z 9's. I don't keep track of all the girls I have fucked over the years. Some girls I still do remember, others I do not. I have to go through all the pics stored on my iCloud to count them more accurately. I'm sure that "quite a few" is more than 4 or 5, maybe 10, maybe more. Again, I don't keep track. And it doesn't matter if I had 4 or 10 or 15 8's and above, the point I was trying to make is that whatever that number is, I consider it low relative to the total number of girls I have ever fucked. But the stunners I had were all worth the time, money and effort spent.
Your "stunner" example refers to a casa / strip club setting, where you point at a girl, pay, fuck, and leave. In most other settings, offline or online, you can't just point at a stunner and fuck her guaranteed. You have to stand out, outbid other mongers, interest the girl. And obviously, you have to know what a stunner looks like in order to identify her in the first place, and in order to do that, you have to have a good taste in women. For some El Centro rats any average looking chick is a stunner, because they don't know any better.No. You're considered a loser because you ooze loser with every word. At first you claimed to only go for 9-10, then it was 8-10 then it was 6-10, then 7-10 again, all the while pushing your effort and outbidding to get only the best. You're a loser because it matters so much to you.
Every guy on ISG fucks at the level that makes them happy. Whether that level is with the A list international models, or the bottom of the barrel street girls, doesn't matter at all. Whether they pay 50 k or $500 USD doesn't matter. What matters is, when they're pulling their pants up, are they smiling?
That's because they have self-esteem. They don't need to pretend. They don't need validation. You're a loser because you crave validation, but you can't provide anything to prove you deserve it. You can only make pathetic boasts.
You haven't seen any of the girls that I fucked, so you have no clue about their quality. I have seen the pic of your GF, and she is just meh. Any idiot gringo can get a girl of her caliber / attractiveness, with minimal effort, time and money. So, keep dreaming about fucking stunners, while I will be slowly but surely fucking more and more of them.Has there ever been a post where you got something right, or posted something honest? Surely there must have been at least one, but it's constantly buried by your bullshit.
Your explanation of "maybe" doesn't work. It falls flat on its face with "maybe 1. " One isn't a hard number to keep track of. I've been to St. Thomas, USVI 1 time. Not "maybe 1 time", just once. Had it been 4 or 5 times, "maybe" still doesn't work. Especially when 4 or 5 suddenly jumps to 10, or maybe more. In my example, I've maybe driven across the US / Canada border 1300 times (maybe 650 times each direction). If someone questioned it and 1300 suddenly changed to 600, or 3,000, wouldn't you question the veracity of my claim?
The math for "maybe 1300":
Began crossing twice weekly (2 times in, 2 times out) October 2013, roughly 200 crossings per year for 3 1/2 years (700). Started again October 2019, but took about 14 months off from it. So another 600 or so.
No. My stunner example doesn't apply to a casa or strip club. Only a fool would think that. Fortunately, in that area you're over qualified.
"You have to stand out, outbid other mongers, interest the girl. " Your words.
Although I truly despise the term, SubCmdr is absolutely correct, that's as Simp as Simp can possibly get. Outbid? Outbid? I suppose, if you're only interested in the hardest of the hardened pros that makes sense. They can sense your weakness and drive up the price, while you're floundering trying to impress them with how much you're willing to spend. You let hookers lead you around on a leash, while they decide how much of your money they will take. That's even sadder than your normal pathetic stuff.
Outbid?
When you started with "stand out", it almost seemed you were on the right path, before you jumped to outbid. You do have to stand out, get a girl's interest, but you won't get it by waving money. All you'll get is her price, and you'll always have to "outbid" with each girl.
If you can get close enough to say "Hello, online or face to face, you can get almost any girl's interest. Most guys have figured that out by the time they reach your age. It's not hard, but you will need self-esteem. You'll know you have their interest when they stop asking how much you're going to pay.
Of course, if you were dealing with the girls you claim to be dealing with, inexperienced, educated, self-sufficient, then you never would have said "oubid. " Those are the girls who still believe they'll find their "Principe Azul" (Blue Prince, Prince Charming, their fairy tale "happily ever after" Trying to outbid is a complete turn-off. Instead of being someone special, you're just another gringo buying pussy.
At least with the "meh", you're keeping true to form. I posted a pic of a girl awhile back, which I believe you rated a 7, higher if her teeth were straight. Now you rate a girl "meh", when you can't even see her face. In the first case, there was no way to tell if her teeth are straight (although they are), so you pointed out a non-existent flaw, because your self-esteem is already curled up in a ball in the corner.
Go ahead, get into your iCloud. Show us what a stunner looks like. I would say it's time to put your money where your mouth is, bit since your head is permanently up your ass, that wouldn't be a good idea.
Or you can show us pictures of the girls who won't respond to your messages again.
Mr Enternational
07-29-23, 22:52
Want to be lied to? Hire a regular consultant. Want the truth? Hire an asshole.Exactly why chicks say I am an asshole, because I do not kiss up to them. I tell them the hard truth.
Elvis 2008
07-29-23, 23:05
Go ahead, get into your iCloud. Show us what a stunner looks like. I would say it's time to put your money where your mouth is, bit since your head is permanently up your ass, that wouldn't be a good idea.
Or you can show us pictures of the girls who won't respond to your messages again.MB, find some obscure super model photo or beauty queen and post it here and say you are fucking her. Then watch as jealous MFs like JJBee put her down as average. It might be good for a laugh.
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And of all the stupid shit on here about Covid, and there was gobs and gobs of it, you were literally the dumbest mother fucker on here when it came to living your life with the pandemic. You even outdid super spreader JJBee.So, when you are talking about the gobs and gobs of stupid shit about CoVid are you recalling the dipshit who said that CoVid wouid never account for more than 80,000 deaths in the United States? Oh wait a minute, who was that? Oh yeah! It was none other than Elvis, the world's foremost authority on everything past, present and future. Oh well I guess that was just an off day, right Elvi?
Only reason you call me an asshole is you are too pig headed to admit you are wrong about anything. And if telling the truth makes me an asshole, then so be it. But the biggest insult I can throw back at you is this: whatever I am, I am not you.Well, I think the reason he calls you an asshole is, wait for it, because you are an asshole. You have the analytical skill of a child and yet you feel compelled to criticize everyone here. I recently commended you for getting something right. Afterall after hundreds and hundreds of posts which were nothing but bluster, blather and bullshit, you finally make a salient point. But having gotten one thing right in hundreds (maybe thousands) of tries I was wondering if it was a typo, an accident or God forbid, you were turning over a new leaf. Well, I didn't have to wait long to see the old Elvis back at it. So, yes Elvis, Huacho described you to a tee.
MB, find some obscure super model photo or beauty queen and post it here and say you are fucking her. Then watch as jealous MFs like JJBee put her down as average. It might be good for a laugh.Nah, I'm not posting shit. Don't need his or anyone else's validation. I only share pics with the guys that I know and trust. I think I got to stop posting in this thread, simply because I have said enough and there is not much new to add, the debate between me and jjbee and his fans is getting old.
MB, find some obscure super model photo or beauty queen and post it here and say you are fucking her. Then watch as jealous MFs like JJBee put her down as average. It might be good for a laugh.You mean he should follow your playbook? Post pics of average girls and claim they are beauty queens, supermodels, or (and this was my favorite) claim they have zero percent body fat, even though the picture shows a girl with an ass that would send Sir Mix A Lot back to the studio?
I guess an honest, response is too much to expect from either of you.
StudPlayer
07-31-23, 23:22
Yeah everyone was well entertained when Osteoknot was reporting from el centro Medellin.
Anyone know what happened with him?
Nah, I'm not posting shit. Don't need his or anyone else's validation. I only share pics with the guys that I know and trust. I think I got to stop posting in this thread, simply because I have said enough and there is not much new to add, the debate between me and jjbee and his fans is getting old.Good call!
When your 1 and only supporter, Elvissist, is so absolutely certain that you've never managed to bang a hooker who rates above average that he suggests you lie about it, it's best to just crawl away in shame.
I have fans now? Wow! You do understand that if I have fans it's because at some point I've done something worthy of their respect? Don't worry. You can always buy a cheap fan at Walmart.
I guarantee you will be too scared to ever meet up with me.You can't guarantee shit! I just checked my Private Messages and I have not received one from you. Send me one and we will set up the meeting. Otherwise STFU!
Elvis 2008
08-01-23, 02:43
I guess an honest, response is too much to expect from either of you.And this is why you are a narcissist. You think you are being honest when you cannot even make up your mind what I said. Am I posting photos of average looking women? Or did I say to post a rare beauty and have you make fun of it? And isn't average looking women the same as saying a woman is a 5? I thought you did not do the 1 to 10 scale?
Cue the war and peace novel about how you are honest, insult me when what you post makes no sense, and then write another war and peace novel how the 1 to 10 scale is horrible but saying average is okay. Viliany will come in and defend you. Nounce will make some off the cuff remark pretending to be nice when it is an insult, and Huacho will come in with his name calling.
Wash, rinse, and repeat.
You Medellin morons think you are such hot shit, but the truth is that you are cheap, jealous, boring, and predictable.
DramaFree11
08-01-23, 03:16
And this is why you are a narcissist. You think you are being honest when you cannot even make up your mind what I said. Am I posting photos of average looking women? Or did I say to post a rare beauty and have you make fun of it? And isn't average looking women the same as saying a woman is a 5? I thought you did not do the 1 to 10 scale?
Cue the war and peace novel about how you are honest, insult me when what you post makes no sense, and then write another war and peace novel how the 1 to 10 scale is horrible but saying average is okay. Viliany will come in and defend you. Nounce will make some off the cuff remark pretending to be nice when it is an insult, and Huacho will come in with his name calling.
Wash, rinse, and repeat.
You Medellin morons think you are such hot shit, but the truth is that you are cheap, jealous, boring, and predictable.So true, you forgot angry and bitter!
Yeah everyone was well entertained when Osteoknot was reporting from el centro Medellin.
Anyone know what happened with him?Not everyone was entertained by his self-aggrandizing posts.
Not everyone was entertained by his self-aggrandizing posts.But you have to admit he was iconic. Like that one time the ops came after him when he was with a girl and like he jumped out of a window and over a fence to run away half naked. Mate was crazy LOL.
Yeah everyone was well entertained when Osteoknot was reporting from el centro Medellin.
Anyone know what happened with him?Gone and good riddance.
Lucky Nuts
08-01-23, 05:47
Yeah everyone was well entertained when Osteoknot was reporting from el centro Medellin.
Anyone know what happened with him?As I recall he posted pretty much every single day and several times each day until about a year ago when he went dark. So "what happened to him" we'll probably never know. But for those of us who travel to MDE this forum is better off without his Penthouse Forum style writings designed to entertain those who don't travel. I much prefer to hear and learn from new travelers sharing both their failures and their successes.
SankarShetty
08-01-23, 13:45
As I recall he posted pretty much every single day and several times each day until about a year ago when he went dark. So "what happened to him" we'll probably never know. But for those of us who travel to MDE this forum is better off without his Penthouse Forum style writings designed to entertain those who don't travel. I much prefer to hear and learn from new travelers sharing both their failures and their successes.I met a BM in Bogota who keeps in touch with him. He made a call when we were cruising the streets of Chapinero and I had a chance to say Hello, a couple of months back.
As I recall he posted pretty much every single day and several times each day until about a year ago when he went dark. So "what happened to him" we'll probably never know. But for those of us who travel to MDE this forum is better off without his Penthouse Forum style writings designed to entertain those who don't travel. I much prefer to hear and learn from new travelers sharing both their failures and their successes.I'm like 99% sure that I think Villiany talks to him outside of ISG. I remember in several posts he mentioned him, not by name but as "a board member who stopped posting on here" if I remember correctly.
Also if you read his last posts before he went dark he posted that he had made it back to the US and was in Florida, so he wasn't killed in Colombia or anything.
I think he just was tired of getting humiliated on here and genuinely stopped posting. Toward the end he was posting weird shit about letting women use furry-tailed butt plugs and dildos on him and alot of other members were talking shit to him about that stuff so I think he just got tired of the negative attention and stopped posting on here.
Asshole - a stupid, irritating, or contemptible person.
I am trying to figure out why so many posting up in here pride themselves on being "assholes"? I am just wondering out loud. Do they actually believe that is a redeeming personality characteristic to possess? If so, I think those individuals are showing that their personality is deeply flawed. Real men know how to tell the truth, in a diplomatic fashion while getting their point across. Without attacking the other person. If I am hiring a consultant. I am looking for competence in their field. Examples presented where their advice helped the their clients.
I am glad so many posing up in here self identify as assholes. For those that value that personality type in their lives, I hope they enjoy them. As far as I am concerned they are not real man role model material. Assholes have no place in my life!
Mr Enternational
08-01-23, 15:17
And isn't average looking women the same as saying a woman is a 5?Neither do I subscribe to your number grading system, but now I can understand why you say that I have been fucking chicks that are 5's when I never said such a thing. It is because you do not understand how English works. So no it is not the same!
I am in Colombia right now and the chick I am with is watching news programs on TV. Hosting the shows are average Colombian women. According to you this is saying the women are 5's. But according to every other English speaker this is saying the women look how one would expect others to look who are from the same region they are from. It speaks nothing of a grade of beauty, but speaks of similarity of features with others in the population.
Mr Enternational
08-01-23, 21:43
Asshole - a stupid, irritating, or contemptible person.
I am trying to figure out why so many posting up in here pride themselves on being "assholes"? I am just wondering out loud. Do they actually believe that is a redeeming personality characteristic to possess? If so, I think those individuals are showing that their personality is deeply flawed.It is a subjective term the same as Elvis and MB's 1-10. Your parents considered themselves being protective and great parents when they would not let you do that thing that you wanted to do, but you considered them assholes for not letting you do it. The same thing can be different things to different people. It is a matter of perspective.
Elvis 2008
08-02-23, 02:24
Neither do I subscribe to your number grading system, but now I can understand why you say that I have been fucking chicks that are 5's when I never said such a thing. Hosting the shows are average Colombian women. According to you this is saying the women are 5's. It is because you do not understand how English works.
Cue the war and peace novel about how you are honest, insult me when what you post makes no sense, and then write another war and peace novel how the 1 to 10 scale is horrible but saying average is okay. Viliany will come in and defend you. Nounce will make some off the cuff remark pretending to be nice when it is an insult, and Huacho will come in with his name calling.
You Medellin morons think you are such hot shit, but the truth is that you are cheap, jealous, boring, and predictable.Sorry, the other predictable Medellin moron response is you making the dumbest comebacks of all time. Where did I say these women were average and 5's? And I don't understand English?
Like this comment, most are so fucking stupid I do not respond to them, but I will this time because you must have felt badly you were not included in the Medellin moron crew. My apologies. Feel better now?
It is a subjective term the same as Elvis and MB's 1-10. Your parents considered themselves being protective and great parents when they would not let you do that thing that you wanted to do, but you considered them assholes for not letting you do it. The same thing can be different things to different people. It is a matter of perspective.You are fucked up! Stop projecting. You might have considered your parents assholes. I never did. And to think I thought you were made of better stuff. My error.
If you and many others want to identify as being assholes and be proud of it, I have no problem with that. But don't put that shit on your parents. That is a quality individuals who self identify as assholes develop on their own as adults. But it is not and never will be real man role model stuff. A true father is not holding his child and looking at him is not saying "I am going to teach you how to grow up to be an asshole".
With Wingo you can by a ticket that is changeable without a fee. Please don't try to claim your superior knowledge in a response to me. I have actually done it. All you have to do is pay the difference in price if there is any when you make the change. And since you are changing it you can pick the fare that is equal to the one you purchased the ticket at. Be careful with the fine print of ANY airline that you are dealing with. ...This is the only post has the word wingo in it on this page so I made the assumption. Knowledge is talking about cancellation while you are talking about change. The information would be more complete if we can learn from your current of later post whether wingo offers fully refundable ticket or not.
Any full service airline (I am excluding the Spirits, wingos, and Frontiers of the world) offers fully refundable tickets. Buy one then cancel it for a refund after you are done with immigration. You have to pay attention to the difference between "refundable" and "redeemable. " Cost is $0 and the time it takes to click through the purchase page of the airline's web site.My impression from reading the post is that Knowledge may not be familiar with the airlines mentioned so he added the qualification but that does not mean they don't offer fully refundable tickets.
Tinder is like rolling the dice. Let's say 1 out of 1000 is drugged. It could happen at the first date or it could happen at the 1000th date.And nothing ever happens to individuals going to El Centro girls. It is perfectly safe. Check out this statement: Flying in commercially in an airplane is like rolling the dice.
According to research by Harvard University, flying in the US, Europe, and Australia is actually significantly safer than driving a car. Your odds of being in an accident during a flight is one in 1.2 million, and the chances of that accident being fatal are one in 11 million. Your chances of dying in a car crash, conversely, are one in 5,000.How many of you drive cars in your home country?
Tinder, tinder. Tinder. So many guys drugged and some killed from Tinder dates. I guess some guys like to live the fast lane without regard to being safe.What are the real statistics of individuals being drugged in Medellin or Colombia in general? If Nounce is being honest with us he will share that information instead of making the WAG of 1 out of 1000 (I know it is a wag because he says "Let's say").
The first girl I ever hooked up with in Colombia was a Tinder date. I was not scoped. I live. And I am writing about it right here. Life is not safe. Only if you stay home and watch YouTube videos.
Incomplete knowledge is useless!
But at least you were trying to share information about having sex with girls instead of chit chat in the Medellin Reports section. Thank you so much Mr. Nounce. I truly appreciate your efforts.
Figures show that 20 foreigners have now been found dead in the capital since the start of last year, with many of these coming in strange circumstances.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/us/1766213/colombia-tourists-dead-medellin-dxus
John Gault
09-06-23, 18:34
After getting mugged and robbed a few times in El Centro, I now carry a baton at night when I venture out at night. Show me a gun and I will give up my dew pesos. I carry no cell phone at night so they won't get much from me. Yes I know some will say since you don't carry much then why not just give it up if they have a knife? Easy answer I'm tired of this kind of crap so a beat down on them is in order. I worked at a State prison as a Sgt. So these crumbs don't scare me. Of course bring on the negative comments.
Interesting. You've been robbed a few times and yet you still go. Night or Day Please, do tell. It only takes one stab with a knife for you to bleed out. Smart not to carry you phone. I always take my burner phone when I'm out and nothing of value at night. Never walk alone in El Centro.
After getting mugged and robbed a few times in El Centro, I now carry a baton at night when I venture out at night. Show me a gun and I will give up my dew pesos. I carry no cell phone at night so they won't get much from me. Yes I know some will say since you don't carry much then why not just give it up if they have a knife? Easy answer I'm tired of this kind of crap so a beat down on them is in order. I worked at a State prison as a Sgt. So these crumbs don't scare me. Of course bring on the negative comments.
LoneRangers
09-06-23, 21:04
Interesting. You've been robbed a few times and yet you still go. Night or Day Please, do tell. It only takes one stab with a knife for you to bleed out. Smart not to carry you phone. I always take my burner phone when I'm out and nothing of value at night. Never walk alone in El Centro.Had a homeless looking addict try stealing my burner out of my hand by Parque de bolivar, sun had just gone down. Luckily it was in my jerkoff hand so my death grip prevailed.
If they got a knife or gun they can have it, not worth risking your life over chump change.
StudBucket
09-07-23, 00:20
Interesting. You've been robbed a few times and yet you still go. Night or Day Please, do tell. It only takes one stab with a knife for you to bleed out. Smart not to carry you phone. I always take my burner phone when I'm out and nothing of value at night. Never walk alone in El Centro.I agree with Dcfan, do not do to Centro alone day or night or take the risk of getting mugged or more. Also, a baton will never win against a knife and you will die, this is bad advice. Do not resist if they show a knife or gun or you will die.
After getting mugged and robbed a few times in El Centro, I now carry a baton at night when I venture out at night. Show me a gun and I will give up my dew pesos. I carry no cell phone at night so they won't get much from me. Yes I know some will say since you don't carry much then why not just give it up if they have a knife? Easy answer I'm tired of this kind of crap so a beat down on them is in order. I worked at a State prison as a Sgt. So these crumbs don't scare me. Of course bring on the negative comments.Is your middle name Danger?
Is your middle name Danger?Why in God's name would any sane person be out and about in El Centro at night? It's scary enough at times during the day.
Mr Enternational
09-07-23, 02:42
Why in God's name would any sane person be out and about in El Centro at night? It's scary enough at times during the day.Because some sane people are comfortable there and do not find it as scary as you. Maybe you are comfortable in places that other sane people are not. For instance church. I find churches really weird, especially when most people that claim the faith have never read the book (and still would not understand if they did), but I have.
I've been around El Cento day and night for over a week and haven't had any problems. The entire place is deserted on Sunday, and I've had no problems thus far. In the meantime, I reserve rooms at Hotel Alcazar or Hotel Conquistadores to rest.
Why in God's name would any sane person be out and about in El Centro at night? It's scary enough at times during the day.
Dude, you are in dire need of psychiatric care.
After getting mugged and robbed a few times in El Centro, I now carry a baton at night when I venture out at night. Show me a gun and I will give up my dew pesos. I carry no cell phone at night so they won't get much from me. Yes I know some will say since you don't carry much then why not just give it up if they have a knife? Easy answer I'm tired of this kind of crap so a beat down on them is in order. I worked at a State prison as a Sgt. So these crumbs don't scare me. Of course bring on the negative comments..
a baton will never win against a knife It depends to some extent on the knife and the baton, but most of the knives I've seen these douche bags carry, I'd take my chances with a baton. I also never give up the money to thieves and have some injuries to show for that, but poor behavior cannot be rewarded. I know how to use a baton and maybe you don't.
Dude, you are in dire need of psychiatric care.
.He's like a rapper who becomes rich, and then goes back to the hood so he doesn't look like a sellout, and is then robbed and murdered.
When Pele was robbed in Brazil as an older guy, he said he was shocked because he thought everyone loved him. LOL Keep it up and you will be dead in el centro.
After getting mugged and robbed a few times in El Centro.......Unfortunately, that happened to you because you listened to posters on here who say they are brave and walk through el Centro at night and things like that. You better believe they do not do that. Be aware these guys are the most coward guys on ISG and need to be internet bravados in order to have self respect. They are also trying to bait readers for their own sinister reasons.
Unfortunately, that happened to you because you listened to posters on here who say they are brave and walk through el Centro at night and things like that. You better believe they do not do that. Be aware these guys are the most coward guys on ISG and need to be internet bravados in order to have self respect. They are also trying to bait readers for their own sinister reasons.This is a load of crap Turgid and you know it. I used to live in Centro back in 2021 and part of 2022 out of a hotel on El Palo con El Huevo. I stayed in Calle Real in September and October of 2021 and I would go out at night for various reasons, not always to look for chicas sometimes just to go buy food or cigarettes or whatever. I never did it to prove anything to anyone as you state in your post.
That being said after about 8 PM there isn't much action in the Botero / Veracruz area. And the later you go it just gets worse and worse.
The best times to go mongering in botero / Veracruz area is in the afternoons from 2 pm to about 6 pm after that the best looking girls migrate over to Parque lleras, Calle 10, and provenza and charge 4 x more for the same servicios.
Also to answer the other guys question, the cleanest best priced short time hotel in that area is going to be Hotel Botero Real, the red hotel right there by the church. Although they have some new lady in the reception now who was bitching at me about taking too long in the room even though no one ever knocked LOL, but in the 3 years I've been using that hotel that's never happened until now.
And if you need more time hotel pasaje real on the other side of Parque Berrio metro station (following the pedestrian street past the other church and the Frisby on the left side down closer to the Subway on Junín) charges 22 mil for 3 hours and also has very clean rooms, in fact it always smells like bleach in there.
Gabacho.
John Gault
09-07-23, 16:23
I agree with Dcfan, do not do to Centro alone day or night or take the risk of getting mugged or more. Also, a baton will never win against a knife and you will die, this is bad advice. Do not resist if they show a knife or gun or you will die.With a flick of my wrist the baton opens up to about 3 feet. It is very heavy and packs a punch. Way better than a knife.
John Gault
09-07-23, 16:31
Most of you guys make me laugh. Check out how many Gringos are killed in your beloved Poblado compared to Centro. I see most of you don't get it. I'm tired of being ripped off and I have decided to take action. I don't advise anyone to follow me. If you are really that concerned just stay home and watch Porno.
Most of you guys make me laugh. Check out how many Gringos are killed in your beloved Poblado compared to Centro. I see most of you don't get it. I'm tired of being ripped off and I have decided to take action. I don't advise anyone to follow me..Its more great advice from the covid experts here. Haha. Theyll be telling you to wear a mask again soon.
Most of you guys make me laugh. Check out how many Gringos are killed in your beloved Poblado compared to Centro. I see most of you don't get it. I'm tired of being ripped off and I have decided to take action. I don't advise anyone to follow me. If you are really that concerned just stay home and watch Porno.More gringos are killed in El Poblado because more gringos stay in El Poblado. Simple as that. Very few gringos stay in El Centro, and majority of guys just Uber to a casa and Uber back. In and out. Now, check out the crime statistics (murders, robberies, petty theft, etc) in El Centro and compare it to that of El Poblado. You must be fucking delusional to think El Centro is safer. Wake the fuck up, Rambo
LoveItHere
09-08-23, 06:16
That being said after about 8 PM there isn't much action in the Botero / Veracruz area. And the later you go it just gets worse and worse.
Also to answer the other guys question, the cleanest best priced short time hotel in that area is going to be Hotel Botero Real, the red hotel right there by the church. Although they have some new lady in the reception now who was bitching at me about taking too long in the room even though no one ever knocked LOL, but in the 3 years I've been using that hotel that's never happened until now.
And if you need more time hotel pasaje real on the other side of Parque Berrio metro station (following the pedestrian street past the other church and the Frisby on the left side down closer to the Subway on Junn) charges 22 mil for 3 hours and also has very clean rooms, in fact it always smells like bleach in there.
Gabacho.Most guys should be gone by 9:00 PM. I get local 20 year old punks eyeballing me after that to rob me. They watch me to see if I look lost, scared (looking away to avoid confrontation), alone, etc.
Hotel Botero Real is not clean.
I am sure if you have been with a girl once or twice she will be willing to go to Hotel Pasaje Real with you. But if a girl has never been with you, you will be lucky to get 40% of the girls willing to walk that far to be with you. The girls do not know you or that hotel so they will be thinking WTF?!
John Gault
09-08-23, 15:19
More gringos are killed in El Poblado because more gringos stay in El Poblado. Simple as that. Very few gringos stay in El Centro, and majority of guys just Uber to a casa and Uber back. In and out. Now, check out the crime statistics (murders, robberies, petty theft, etc) in El Centro and compare it to that of El Poblado. You must be fucking delusional to think El Centro is safer. Wake the fuck up, RamboI never said that Centro was safe. If I thought that I would not carry a baton there. Your comment {You must be fucking delusional } this is the kind of insult that makes guys hate to post as opinions like yours are insulting. Wait a minute, why am I even responding to creature who hides in his basement?
I never said that Centro was safe. If I thought that I would not carry a baton there. Your comment {You must be fucking delusional } this is the kind of insult that makes guys hate to post as opinions like yours are insulting. Wait a minute, why am I even responding to creature who hides in his basement?You found my response to your post to be insulting, however it is you who posts insulting shit ("grow a pair", "stay home and watch porno" Also, my response was not just my opinion, but a fact that is based on crime stats. La Candelaria (El Centro), Aranjuez and Robledo are top 3 barrios with the most homicide cases. Compared to El Centro, El Poblado has 10 x less homicides per year.
It seems you decided to move to El Centro not because of the fear to be killed, but because El Poblado and girls working there are out of your budget. This is why you joined El Centro rats club, well, more power to you.
I never said that Centro was safe. If I thought that I would not carry a baton there. Your comment {You must be fucking delusional } this is the kind of insult that makes guys hate to post as opinions like yours are insulting. Wait a minute, why am I even responding to creature who hides in his basement?The late Meatloaf once said "I would do anything for love, but I won't do that. " he was talking about going to el centro to get laid. Story has it he took a taxi tour there and said get me the hell out of here.
I am sure if you have been with a girl once or twice she will be willing to go to Hotel Pasaje Real with you. But if a girl has never been with you, you will be lucky to get 40% of the girls willing to walk that far to be with you. The girls do not know you or that hotel so they will be thinking WTF?!This hasn't been the case for me in my experience. I get girls to go with me to hotel pasaje real all the time. Many first time girls I meet off of Facebook I have them meet me at Parque Berrio metro station and then we walk there together, also friends of friends (also first timers with me) I often take them there too. I'm fact with my semi pros and non pros this is the hotel I prefer to take them to.
I tend to use botero real for girls who actually work in the botero / Veracruz area as SWers. And yes Botero Real is clean. They change the sheets there in between sessions, that is why you often have to wait for a room during peak hours, and it has a bathroom and shower inside the room they also supply a clean towel and bar soap. Also I've never seen a cockroach in any of their rooms either, so it passes as clean as far as I'm concerned.
DoomBringer321
09-11-23, 01:37
One of the things that I find odd and I will try to remain as diplomatic and polite as humanly possible, not that I give much of a fuck, but I digress. One of the things that I find odd is our species we are homo sapiens last I checked in the wise book of whatever the fuck, so ancestors of our species wared profusely, killed indiscriminately, and created big gigantic things with a lot of effort, mastered the atom, created empires and destroyed others in what must have been an existential crisis of their time, we accomplished all of this because as men a concept that we seem to have forgotten in the west we have a fundamental role in nature to reproduce, ancient men had to prove their worth by sacrificing or accomplishing something to be worthy of your genes to be passed to a new generation of humans. I know John Gault personally I will never forget the day he approached a group of Chinese men in Guayaquil me right next to him and called them "chinos comunistas" Of course should things have gone south I have the ability, training, and capacity and tools to deal with such humans this is what men do or at least the way men used to be. Yet if it was for men like Miamiboy and others I doubt that our species would have had the capacity to deal and wrestle with megafauna, stood against communism, Nazism or Tiranny be thankful that ancestors of ours had the courage to live struggle, and die so you can take your punny self and quote statistics, and find that more valuable than your desire to reproduce, if you valued safety go to a legal brothel in Vegas they are certainly safe, why travel if that is what you value, even in the safest communities of Colombia, Americans, and westerners die on the daily safety is relative, you guys are not coming to LA to develop infrastructure or to teach the natives literacy you come to fuck and any time you come to third world nations there is always going to be problems. In the meantime I miss John Gault may he live another 78 more years should he die in Colombia I will mourn my friend should he perish in foul play in Colombia the perpetrators will find one angry human that lives in Ecuador that will be filled with a terrible purpose.
One of the things that I find odd and I will try to remain as diplomatic and polite as humanly possible, not that I give much of a fuck, but I digress. One of the things that I find odd is our species we are homo sapiens last I checked in the wise book of whatever the fuck, so ancestors of our species wared profusely, killed indiscriminately, and created big gigantic things with a lot of effort, mastered the atom, created empires and destroyed others in what must have been an existential crisis of their time, we accomplished all of this because as men a concept that we seem to have forgotten in the west we have a fundamental role in nature to reproduce, ancient men had to prove their worth by sacrificing or accomplishing something to be worthy of your genes to be passed to a new generation of humans. I know John Gault personally I will never forget the day he approached a group of Chinese men in Guayaquil me right next to him and called them "chinos comunistas" Of course should things have gone south I have the ability, training, and capacity and tools to deal with such humans this is what men do or at least the way men used to be. Yet if it was for men like Miamiboy and others I doubt that our species would have had the capacity to deal and wrestle with megafauna, stood against communism, Nazism or Tiranny be thankful that ancestors of ours had the courage to live struggle, and die so you can take your punny self and quote statistics, and find that more valuable than your desire to reproduce, if you valued safety go to a legal brothel in Vegas they are certainly safe, why travel if that is what you value, even in the safest communities of Colombia, Americans, and westerners die on the daily safety is relative, you guys are not coming to LA to develop infrastructure or to teach the natives literacy you come to fuck and any time you come to third world nations there is always going to be problems. In the meantime I miss John Gault may he live another 78 more years should he die in Colombia I will mourn my friend should he perish in foul play in Colombia the perpetrators will find one angry human that lives in Ecuador that will be filled with a terrible purpose.Yea Miami boy is all talk and he really doesn't know shit he just likes to talk shit to people and start beef, he's a classic internet troll.
I still interested in checking out Ecuador by the way. I know it's more expensive than what I have become accustomed to in Colombia, but I need to find a new place to venture out and find new street meat to fulfill my needs and Salinas / Calle 18 sounds like it may be that next place I want to venture into.
JohnnieCash
09-11-23, 06:29
Many first time girls I meet off of Facebook ...Senor Gabacho, out of curiosity- as a confirmed street rat and a Spanish speaker, how much are you giving the FB girls? It's somehow hard to imagine you paying the reported by others FB rate of 250 mil + taxi (or more). I suspect you get better deals than that, aka local prices?
Yep, there is a ton of Colombian Chicks in CDMX and yes, there is a bunch in MDE. The Mexican Dudes, love fake and big asses. I just laugh when I see them and instant block when they contact me. For the most part they are very demanding, most refuse to speak English and are way more expensive than the Mexican Babes. Sorry.Colombians refusing to speak English? How incredibly, fucking rude of them to refuse to speak a language they almost certainly don't know.
Mr Enternational
09-11-23, 16:58
I still interested in checking out Ecuador by the way. I know it's more expensive than what I have become accustomed to in Colombia, but I need to find a new place to venture out and find new street meat to fulfill my needs and Salinas / Calle 18 sounds like it may be that next place I want to venture into.Calle 18 is where I complained the girl was playing with her phone while I was fucking her. She said it is only $6. I couldn't argue with that!
DramaFree11
09-11-23, 17:26
Colombians refusing to speak English? How incredibly, fucking rude of them to refuse to speak a language they almost certainly don't know.Let me clarify, they are super lazy and incredibly jealous.
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group of Chinese men in Guayaquil me right next to him and called them "chinos comunistas"Wow, and what did they say, muchas gracias, con gusto! Am sure they would find it as insulting as someone from USA being called north american.
DoomBringer321
09-11-23, 22:53
Wow, and what did they say, muchas gracias, con gusto! Am sure they would find it as insulting as someone from USA being called north american.Last I heard no true American unless it's this fresh batch of mama-raised soy boys that seem to be everywhere lately, mind being called a Rabid Yankee capitalist, As far as that particular event that day over a year and a half ago John Gault was in the state he was in, and as a man of his generation born and bred in the USA fear of communism was ingrained in his DNA, however, most Chinese that are lucky to leave China do mind being called communist, was his comment at the time inappropriate perhaps insulting maybe, but one thing about courage it's not sold over the counter it is something that is forged out a combination of fear, discipline and controlled anger, perhaps if he was not around me he would not have thought to make such commentaries to 4 large Chinese men 3 of which were about my size (I am 5'11) but here is the thing he made the comment and stood his ground I cannot say the same thing for most of the members of this board much less the rest of my compatriots from the good old USA considering said soy boy abundance, plus I have read the comments sections, Colombia used to be my old stomping grounds for a different set of reasons. Everyone and I do mean everyone locals and foreigners dislikes Chinese yet they lack the courage to do anything about it, There are a myriad of reasons why they are disliked for ex. They do not contribute much to the economy they prefer to migrate their workforce rather than train and hire in the local economy, They give out predatory loans to governments so they are never repaid or have to accept unfavorable raw material trade it's a shit show that will one day bite the west in the ass because western leadership was sleeping at the wheel but there are some like John Gault and myself who does not share this mindset of "go along to get along" America was a place built by such men a shame that new generations no longer share that view if they did perhaps mentally incompetent humans would not be elected to office.
Senor Gabacho, out of curiosity- as a confirmed street rat and a Spanish speaker, how much are you giving the FB girls? It's somehow hard to imagine you paying the reported by others FB rate of 250 mil + taxi (or more). I suspect you get better deals than that, aka local prices?I usually pay about 150 mil when dealing with Facebook girls and that's almost always BBFS unless if they absolutely won't do that or want an absurd amount of money.
If you look back to my post in the main medellin forum from may of 2022 I posted a report with pics of a Venezuelan Webcam model who I found her and her sister thru Facebook. Her Webcam name is Sayarit but her real name is Meiber she was 19 at the time when I was seeing her and she charged me 150 mil for an hour BBFS and often times we would go over the hour and she wouldn't hassle me for more money. At one point I had gotten her to take 200 mil for dos polvos (2 nuts). That was before we had a falling out after she found out I had been barebacking alot of the botero girls LOL.
Let me clarify, they are super lazy and incredibly jealous.Pardon me, but I think the language is necessary for emphasis.
How the fuck is that any type of clarification? You were complaining that Colombians in CDMX refuse to speak English, which it's highly unlikely they know more than a few English phrases, and now the complaint is that they're lazy and jealous? What in the world does that have to do with them not speaking a language they don't know?
Lazy and jealous? Prostitutes? Where does either thing come into the picture? "I want you to fuck me, but first clean my house and do my laundry and I hope you don't mind that I fuck other hookers too. ".
Calle 18 is where I complained the girl was playing with her phone while I was fucking her. She said it is only $6. I couldn't argue with that!$6 usd is the going rate in Guayaquil Calle 18??
I thought it was $15 usd. $6 usd is about 24 mil COP at the current exchange rate so your saying that Guayaquil is actually cheaper than Medellin?
Not looking for validation, just more experienced guys to give me some feedback. It's my first time in Colombia, want to know if seeing a Venezuelan chick with a spider tat near her coochie was a good idea LOL I'll also be mingling on the streets, so willing to next her if need be.I highly recommend you "mingle on the streets" while in Medellin, especially if it's your first time here.
A good time to go is after 9 PM in and around the Botero Plaza area.
You won't be disappointed, as some of Medellin's finest start showing up later in the evening, no different than other mongering venues around the World.
And you shouldn't let a spider tat on a Venezuelan near her twat deter you from "nexting" a Venezuelan, but a tat in this area on a Colombian is a different matter.
Have fun while your in town and be safe.
DramaFree11
09-12-23, 14:44
Pardon me, but I think the language is necessary for emphasis.
How the fuck is that any type of clarification? You were complaining that Colombians in CDMX refuse to speak English, which it's highly unlikely they know more than a few English phrases, and now the complaint is that they're lazy and jealous? What in the world does that have to do with them not speaking a language they don't know?
Lazy and jealous? Prostitutes? Where does either thing come into the picture? "I want you to fuck me, but first clean my house and do my laundry and I hope you don't mind that I fuck other hookers too..You are last person I would listen to about anything, you are one angry and bitter person.
Yes, the girls I have met from MDE are some of the most lazy and jealous women I have ever met. I can not speak about the girls from the other cities.
$6 usd is the going rate in Guayaquil Calle 18??
I thought it was $15 usd. $6 usd is about 24 mil COP at the current exchange rate so your saying that Guayaquil is actually cheaper than Medellin?Time to pack your shower head and move down there! Do they have midgets and preggos?
Time to pack your shower head and move down there! Do they have midgets and preggos?I'll be sure to find out when I go and I'll report in the Guayaquil forum!
You are last person I would listen to about anything, you are one angry and bitter person.
Yes, the girls I have met from MDE are some of the most lazy and jealous women I have ever met. I can not speak about the girls from the other cities.Angry and bitter? About what? What do I have to be angry about? My life usually keeps me smiling. Getting old isn't exactly wonderful, but it's not as bad as I thought it would be. And there are a few perks.
Bitter? No? Why would I be? My life has been great, by my standards. It continues to be pretty good. Again, the years are taking their toll, but I'm still smiling.
I don't recall asking you to listen to me. I simply began by making fun of you. You literally complained that Colombian women in CDMX "refuse to speak English. " They are from a Spanish speaking country. They are in a Spanish speaking country. Except for a rare few who speak English, they can't "refuse" to speak a language they don't know. Next you'll be complaining because cows refuse to lay eggs.
Even if a Colombian in CDMX speaks English, what kind of fool would try to talk to her in any language other than Spanish? That's before we get to the important question:
If you find Colombian women to be so terrible and worthless, why in the fuck would you be seeking them out in Mexico? Why even bother with posting in the Colombian forums? How pathetic and empty must your life be that you have nothing better to do than to come into the Colombian forums to complain about a country you have no interest in visiting and to cry about women you have no interest in seeing?
As for the rest of your complaint, maybe there's a reason why they all appear lazy to you. Hard work usually comes from inspiration. If they're all lazy around you, it's got to be because there's nothing about you to interest them. Quite the opposite. In general, Colombians are vivacious, energetic and friendly. Your presence must literally suck the life right out of them.
And I still can't figure out where jealousy comes into the picture. The only time any girl has a reason to be jealous is if you have made some sort of commitment to her. Why make commitments to hookers? If you're making commitments to hookers, why aren't you keeping them?
In my situation, jealousy could be an issue, but so far it's been easy to avoid.
Mr Enternational
09-12-23, 21:04
$6 usd is the going rate in Guayaquil Calle 18??
I thought it was $15 usd. $6 usd is about 24 mil COP at the current exchange rate so your saying that Guayaquil is actually cheaper than Medellin?LOL. Damn I just looked it up. Seems that was 2006. Prices are sure to have changed since then.
I'm in Guayaquil right now.
Mr Enternational
09-12-23, 22:47
$6 usd is the going rate in Guayaquil Calle 18??
I thought it was $15 usd. $6 usd is about 24 mil COP at the current exchange rate so your saying that Guayaquil is actually cheaper than Medellin?LOL. Damn I just looked it up. Seems that was 2006. Prices are sure to have changed since then.
I'm in Guayaquil right now.
DramaFree11
09-13-23, 03:15
Angry and bitter? About what? What do I have to be angry about? My life usually keeps me smiling. Getting old isn't exactly wonderful, but it's not as bad as I thought it would be. And there are a few perks.
Bitter? No? Why would I be? My life has been great, by my standards. It continues to be pretty good. Again, the years are taking their toll, but I'm still smiling.
I don't recall asking you to listen to me. I simply began by making fun of you. You literally complained that Colombian women in CDMX "refuse to speak English. " They are from a Spanish speaking country. They are in a Spanish speaking country. Except for a rare few who speak English, they can't "refuse" to speak a language they don't know. Next you'll be complaining because cows refuse to lay eggs.
Even if a Colombian in CDMX speaks English, what kind of fool would try to talk to her in any language other than Spanish? That's before we get to the important question:
If you find Colombian women to be so terrible and worthless, why in the fuck would you be seeking them out in Mexico? Why even bother with posting in the Colombian forums? How pathetic and empty must your life be that you have nothing better to do than to come into the Colombian forums to complain about a country you have no interest in visiting and to cry about women you have no interest in seeing?
As for the rest of your complaint, maybe there's a reason why they all appear lazy to you. Hard work usually comes from inspiration. If they're all lazy around you, it's got to be because there's nothing about you to interest them. Quite the opposite. In general, Colombians are vivacious, energetic and friendly. Your presence must literally suck the life right out of them.
And I still can't figure out where jealousy comes into the picture. The only time any girl has a reason to be jealous is if you have made some sort of commitment to her. Why make commitments to hookers? If you're making commitments to hookers, why aren't you keeping them?
In my situation, jealousy could be an issue, but so far it's been easy to avoid.Trust me I am not seeking Colombian girls in CDMX, I am trying to avoid them. They are everywhere on SA, in CDMX, probably trying to avoid cheap guys like you.
Now, these girls are in CDMX, seeking foreign guys, at least they could pretend to speak English or use a translator, but they are too lazy to do that. This might help them meet more foreign guys, but why bother. I have bad news for you almost everyone in CDMX can speak a little English or they at least try.
You might want to read my reports, I blog them immediately when I find out they are Colombia. Maybe you and wacko friends can do a better job and keep them in Colombia, then we would all be happy. The truth is slowly coming about Colombia I am not the only one complaining about them now. Please keep your girls in Colombia!
I will not argue with you, you are the one hanging out in Colombia not me and complaining all the time.
LOL. Damn I just looked it up. Seems that was 2006. Prices are sure to have changed since then.Yea after reading your 2006 report and the one underneath it, I think I'll pass on Guayaquil. I don't do 10 minute sessions and I don't like "plenty of hair on display".
Also everything from your hotel prices to SWer prices, even your $11 lunch were more expensive than in Colombia, and that was over 15 years ago.
Maybe I'll still check it out on some future trip but for now I'm thinking a few days in Pereira sounds like a much better option to explore something new.
I highly recommend you "mingle on the streets" while in Medellin, especially if it's your first time here.
A good time to go is after 9 PM in and around the Botero Plaza area.
You won't be disappointed, as some of Medellin's finest start showing up later in the evening, no different than other mongering venues around the World.
And you shouldn't let a spider tat on a Venezuelan near her twat deter you from "nexting" a Venezuelan, but a tat in this area on a Colombian is a different matter.
Have fun while your in town and be safe.Your post is obviously sarcasm, but a newbie wouldn't necessarily know that. You could get someone injured or killed with that info. None of it is correct.
Also, "your" and "you're" are not interchangeable.
LoveItHere
09-13-23, 07:11
Your post is obviously sarcasm, but a newbie wouldn't necessarily know that. You could get someone injured or killed with that info. None of it is correct.
Agreed. Surfer500 stop being an at $$!
10:00 PM tonight two guys tried robbing a local wearing a backpack between the metro and the church in front of Hotel Calle Real. The guy kept his phone and the 2 guys got away walking past the church towards the bars. Police came 5 minutes later from the metro side but after chatting the guy for 5 minutes turned and returned back heading back towards the metro. The front of the guy's shoulder near the collar bone was bleeding (2 inch circle). Not sure what caused the bleeding because I did not see a hole in his shirt. Maybe small knife? I went to my hotel ASAP. I am usually in by 9:00 but was bored so people watched. Silly me.
LoveItHere69
09-13-23, 07:37
On second thought. The guy probably received a bloody hand when thrown to the pavement. Then transfered the blood near his collar bone when he took off his backpack when speaking to the police. Based on the blood pattern on his shirt. Drama running amuck temporarily in my head.
Nowadays, I think all the men fuck bareback in Colombia. I do only bareback and all the girls on facebook are OK to fuck with me without condom. Only few of them ask me more money. Same for the botero girls, usually they asK 50 000 pesos + 50 000 for BBFS. Even the pornstars in Colobia accept without any hesitation but are mucho more expensive.
Today, nobody use condoms in Colombia. It's over!
I usually pay about 150 mil when dealing with Facebook girls and that's almost always BBFS unless if they absolutely won't do that or want an absurd amount of money.
If you look back to my post in the main medellin forum from may of 2022 I posted a report with pics of a Venezuelan Webcam model who I found her and her sister thru Facebook. Her Webcam name is Sayarit but her real name is Meiber she was 19 at the time when I was seeing her and she charged me 150 mil for an hour BBFS and often times we would go over the hour and she wouldn't hassle me for more money. At one point I had gotten her to take 200 mil for dos polvos (2 nuts). That was before we had a falling out after she found out I had been barebacking alot of the botero girls LOL.
Trust me I am not seeking Colombian girls in CDMX, I am trying to avoid them. They are everywhere on SA, in CDMX, probably trying to avoid cheap guys like you.
Now, these girls are in CDMX, seeking foreign guys, at least they could pretend to speak English or use a translator, but they are too lazy to do that. This might help them meet more foreign guys, but why bother. I have bad news for you almost everyone in CDMX can speak a little English or they at least try.
You might want to read my reports, I blog them immediately when I find out they are Colombia. Maybe you and wacko friends can do a better job and keep them in Colombia, then we would all be happy. The truth is slowly coming about Colombia I am not the only one complaining about them now. Please keep your girls in Colombia!
I will not argue with you, you are the one hanging out in Colombia not me and complaining all the time.I'm sure the Colombian girls in CDMX are better than the Mexicanas you will find on anillo de circunvalacion leaned up against that green chain link fence that separates the sidewalks from the street lanes. Those girls are fucking nasty.
DoomBringer321
09-13-23, 17:55
LOL. Damn I just looked it up. Seems that was 2006. Prices are sure to have changed since then.Yes, prices have changed the problem is not necessarily the prices rather it's the attitude, I believe that Colombian women look prettier because there is a culture of them taking care of themselves and being "pretty" for a man, that is not the Ecuadorian culture, so naturally women in Colombia will be prettier however one thing I cannot say is that they have better attitudes and that is to blame on all of you, or most of you who pedestalize women for just being there, look I get it you don't have to share my views but and I get it you would not be travelling if you had better options back home, but when you blow up a women ego with attention that is not deserved all you do is artificially inflate the market value, you don't see local Ecuadorian men or Colombian men behaving in this fashion so they still get bareback, ironed clothes and a cooked meal and even morning blow jobs and sometimes even money for little or almost nothing, but I see a change in the tonality of the visitors to Colombia girls are more entitled they all blow up people's phones for money even overseas, and this would not be happening if people were not being judicious with their attention and resources so when Colombia's women become shittier because their attitudes are already shitty they will start to gravitate to other nations like they did when people stopped going to Costa Rica, DR and Cuba.
Yes, prices have changed the problem is not necessarily the prices rather it's the attitude, I believe that Colombian women look prettier because there is a culture of them taking care of themselves and being "pretty" for a man, that is not the Ecuadorian culture, so naturally women in Colombia will be prettier however one thing I cannot say is that they have better attitudes and that is to blame on all of you, or most of you who pedestalize women for just being there, look I get it you don't have to share my views but and I get it you would not be travelling if you had better options back home, but when you blow up a women ego with attention that is not deserved all you do is artificially inflate the market value, you don't see local Ecuadorian men or Colombian men behaving in this fashion so they still get bareback, ironed clothes and a cooked meal and even morning blow jobs and sometimes even money for little or almost nothing, but I see a change in the tonality of the visitors to Colombia girls are more entitled they all blow up people's phones for money even overseas, and this would not be happening if people were not being judicious with their attention and resources so when Colombia's women become shittier because their attitudes are already shitty they will start to gravitate to other nations like they did when people stopped going to Costa Rica, DR and Cuba.Especially the Venezuelan women all they do is ask for money. I have a new rule I've implemented. Whenever they ask for free money I block them immediately without even responding. I don't give AF if your mom died or if your baby hasn't eaten in 3 days or if your going to get put out of your room because you haven't paid your rent. If the tables were turned and I was the one asking them for money they would laugh, so yea instant block if they ask for free money, lazy b i t c h e s.
America was a place built by such men a shame that new generations no longer share that view if they did perhaps mentally incompetent humans would not be elected to office.You would get my vote if you ever stood for president and if ever a moment of insanity overtook me and a applied for usa citizenship. The world needs someone with your clearminded and knowledgeable outlook.
Mr Enternational
09-14-23, 22:12
that is to blame on all of you, or most of you who pedestalize women for just being there, look I get it you don't have to share my views but and I get it you would not be travelling if you had better options back home, but when you blow up a women ego with attention that is not deserved all you do is artificially inflate the market value, Well unfortunately the guys like you and me are in the minority on this planet. We are far outnumbered by guys that do not mind passing money out for nothing. In another thread somebody wrote about guys paying to watch a chick sleep online. Then when she woke up, they all left.
Especially the Venezuelan women all they do is ask for money. I have a new rule IIf the tables were turned and I was the one asking them for money they would laugh, so yea instant block if they ask for free money, lazy b i t c h e s.Their country is sanctioned to the point of starvation, they are denied visas, they can't afford passports, they are denied official work opportunities in neighbouring countries, they have to pass thru the darian w 4 month old babies or prostitute themselves to obese and old USAns in order to feed their families, they sleep under bridges bcos tourists laugh at them when they try to sell candies to raise money. Sure, they are just such lazy fkn bltches.
Their country is sanctioned to the point of starvation, they are denied visas, they can't afford passports, they are denied official work opportunities in neighbouring countries, they have to pass thru the darian w 4 month old babies or prostitute themselves to obese and old USAns in order to feed their families, they sleep under bridges bcos tourists laugh at them when they try to sell candies to raise money. Sure, they are just such lazy fkn bltches.With all due respect JusTK, you obviously don't know what the hell you are talking about. Obviously the ones crossing the Darien Gap to work in the USA are not lazy. They aren't the ones asking for free money, they are too busy waking through the jungle and probably don't even have signal or battery power on their phones.
No JusTK, the ones I'm talking about are in fact lazy, they spend all their money on Tussi, Cartujo Anis, and Marijuana, and/or give it to their just as lazy boyfriends then they have the nerve to ask for free money from their clientes when they haven't worked because they were up all night partying. They tend to live in pagadiarios in the Prado Centro area, not in Panama, those are the ones I'm referring to.
So next time do a little research before you open your mouth.
Their country is sanctioned to the point of starvation, they are denied visas, they can't afford passports, they are denied official work opportunities in neighbouring countries, they have to pass thru the darian w 4 month old babies or prostitute themselves to obese and old USAns in order to feed their families, they sleep under bridges bcos tourists laugh at them when they try to sell candies to raise money. Sure, they are just such lazy fkn bltches.You're probably one of the simps sending them the money that would explain why you took offense to my post.
GeneHickman
09-15-23, 16:49
With all due respect JusTK, you obviously don't know what the hell you are talking about. Obviously the ones crossing the Darien Gap to work in the USA are not lazy. They aren't the ones asking for free money, they are too busy waking through the jungle and probably don't even have signal or battery power on their phones.
No JusTK, the ones I'm talking about are in fact lazy, they spend all their money on Tussi, Cartujo Anis, and Marijuana, and/or give it to their just as lazy boyfriends then they have the nerve to ask for free money from their clientes when they haven't worked because they were up all night partying. They tend to live in pagadiarios in the Prado Centro area, not in Panama, those are the ones I'm referring to.
So next time do a little research before you open your mouth.Here's the reality, many do work when illegal and it's basically exploitation as their options are quite limited, but then they get their papers and with those their rights to social services. Then comes the change in behaviour. So it's not a net benefit to the country. It benefits those that get the few years of exploited labour and then screws the taxpayer for a lifetime. If they drop a baby the social services start even sooner. Our country has a schizophrenic immigration policy. Anyone that has a basic understanding of economics and free markets would know that due to economic disparities and quality of life differences the US has to inevitably impose caps on immigration in some way. We would be better off formally and properly screening them and taking the best, that this poor huddles masses idealism that might have worked when we were an empty continent in need of anyone willing to come and settle the land. Finally it's just a plain simple fact that immigrants when they do get legalized votes in one direction, that skews the political balance in the country, and that's not necessarily a good thing. I say this as a centrist who believes that balance is what got us to where we are. We move too far looney left like the AOCs etc advocate and our success is not guaranteed. We need balance.
With all due respect JusTK, you obviously don't know what the hell you are talking about. Obviously the ones crossing the Darien Gap to work in the USA are not lazy. They aren't the ones asking for free money, they are too busy waking through the jungle
No JusTK, the ones I'm talking about are in fact lazy, they spend all their money on Tussi, Cartujo Anis, and Marijuana, and/or give it to their just as lazy boyfriends then they have the nerve to ask for free money from their clientes when they haven't worked because they were up all night partying.
So next time do a little research before you open your mouth.Well gabacho. In your first comment you wrote of 'Venezuelan women'. Now you qualify it and change it to drug users, party goers etc.
Its not me that needs to do more research, its you that should write about the people you refer to instead of smearing all venezuelan women.
You're probably one of the simps sending them the money that would explain why you took offense to my post.Yes probably, but wait. Why would I send them money when I live here?
I just take exception when folks from privileged backgrounds belittle the hardships that most venezuelans live thru.
I heard this guy loudly bragging in a casa the other day. He spoke how Medellin has a bunch of cheap pussy and about having a 17 year old girl. The madam could understand him. That kind of talk will.
1) make some of the casa girls leave for greener pastures.
2) make all the locals view us as big pocket targets.
3) make more locals want to get rid of legalized prostitution.
This is why the talent is getting shitter and Colombia is becoming more unsafe.
People need to stop being obnoxiously yelling at the top of our lungs about this stuff. Colombia is slowly being ruined for me.
Got to be the dumbest shit bragging about banging an underage girl. Pretty sure that shit is a serious crime where you get USA jail time, etc.
Well gabacho. In your first comment you wrote of 'Venezuelan women'. Now you qualify it and change it to drug users, party goers etc.
Its not me that needs to do more research, its you that should write about the people you refer to instead of smearing all venezuelan women.The party goers and drug users I am referring to are Venezuelan Women.
Well gabacho. In your first comment you wrote of 'Venezuelan women'. Now you qualify it and change it to drug users, party goers etc.
Its not me that needs to do more research, its you that should write about the people you refer to instead of smearing all venezuelan women.I will give you this that not all venezuelan women are like this, there are some that are hard working people, I have a Venezuelan handyman who helped me install my electric shower head and put up some shelving and cabinets, for example, I also know some Venezuelan street food venders who are hard working people.
But they aren't the ones asking Johns for free money, are they? No they aren't asking us for money because they are working and earning their own money and don't need to ask us to send them money.
The ones blowing you up thru WhatsApp or messenger or whatever method of contact they might use are typically the drug user / partygoer type of Venezuelan women, they are the ones who are lazy and asking for money. And when stupid Britts, such as yourself, send these type of women money, it only enables them to ask more of us for money and so on but the buck stops with me!
Yes probably, but wait. Why would I send them money when I live here?
I just take exception when folks from privileged backgrounds belittle the hardships that most venezuelans live thru.Why are you standing up for these venecas anyways?? While there are some who are honest hard working people, the vast majority of them are crooks and thieves just looking for the next way to get over on people.
Even the Colombians don't want them here.
GeneHickman
09-16-23, 03:59
Yes probably, but wait. Why would I send them money when I live here?
I just take exception when folks from privileged backgrounds belittle the hardships that most venezuelans live thru.They voted for it! Chavez Chavez Chavez then it was Duro Maduro. That's a wealthy country natural resources wise. Noone but their own fault.
With all due respect JusTK, you obviously don't know what the hell you are talking about. Obviously the ones crossing the Darien Gap to work in the USA are not lazy. They aren't the ones asking for free money, they are too busy waking through the jungle and probably don't even have signal or battery power on their phones.
No JusTK, the ones I'm talking about are in fact lazy, they spend all their money on Tussi, Cartujo Anis, and Marijuana, and/or give it to their just as lazy boyfriends then they have the nerve to ask for free money from their clientes when they haven't worked because they were up all night partying. They tend to live in pagadiarios in the Prado Centro area, not in Panama, those are the ones I'm referring to.
So next time do a little research before you open your mouth.Why do you give women like that a way to contact you? I can understand fucking them, if that's what you like, but is there a need to give them your number?
I've always found women who ask for money are easy to deal with. You either give them money, or you tell them "no. " Same with the beggars on the street.
DoomBringer321
09-16-23, 04:38
Why are you standing up for these venecas anyways?? While there are some who are honest hard working people, the vast majority of them are crooks and thieves just looking for the next way to get over on people.
Even the Colombians don't want them here.As a former migrant myself in my case to the US, I can tell you the migrant mindset works something like this "I don't want to be in. Working a couple of decades and never have a sense of. I want to go to. To make my dreams come true" even if the statistics don't show it however the particular case with Venezuela is to a degree annoying and it's not their fault but there are reasons for this, the windfall of Oil artificially inflated Venezuelan economy it was a bubble economy for decades I remember going to college and having to work 3 jobs to make ends met and that was even with VA loans, these Venezuelans had grants afforded to them by the state some even came to Miami on vacation on a regular basis, there were no waves of Venezuelan migrants in the 90's fast forward 20 years a Socialist populist which created wealth redistribution system an economic embargo plus plummeting oil prices and you have the current results, however most of the young population did not grow up with hardship they never had a hustle mindset, they found themselves in that situation and their solutions was migration true but these are not, young cuban entrepreneurs with education that came to MIA after a government seized property, nor are they intellectual eastern europeans who wanted a better system, nor are they Mexicans from the lower class who have a do or die work ethic that makes up for whatever shortcoming that they have, these Venezuelans came from something remember the opulance of their childhood and found themselves without food through no fault of their own so they reasonably migrated but these are not your typical put you nose to the grindstone migrants, I have talked to Colombians, Peruvians, Chileans and Ecuadorians which is where I live all agree that Venezuelans have an attitude not all certainly but it's hard to explain, it's like when you have a work assignment in a prison you can't malinger because there is disciplinary repercussion you want your good days so you get out early and you are property of the state till your sentence is done so you do you work detail, not exactly enthusiastically and that is basically the attitude of all of the venezuelans who migrated they never wanted to live the "dream" they were perfectly happy being in wherever in Venezuela till the circumstances forced them to, in the case of other migration waves for example say Haiti, huricannes come destroyed your home you migrate you don't to go back, Cuba comunism and class warfare comes new rules you don't want to go back, Colombia if you were in the area where the rebels operated you don't want to pay tribute to the rebels nor do you want you children to be forced soldiers solution migrate wherever.
Venezuelans never really wanted to leave nor did they have a nomad spirit and because of the oil revenues never had to develop entrepreneurs because the government subsidized a lot, and the ones that actually had something in Venezuela they are the worst entitled to the nth degree they all talk about the good all days, and everyone had a cat and a dog 2 vacations homes and even a dinosaur as pets in their home country they are certainly not your typical migrant that is willing to work 16 hours without a break, the few that have an entrepreneur spirit sell food, juice or trinkets and they seem happy and are the least likely to go back IMHO, now that the US has lifted some aspects of their sanctions for geopolitical reasons and since they were forced to diversify their suppliers of goods and services because of the US embargo buying shit from Russia and China, this has caused their economy to stabilize and a lot of migrants are actually returning, I will certainly be happy to see fewer people ask me for handouts it will lessen my paranoia and lessen the chance of me having to send their countrymen to the hospital which I have done more than I care to remember since the migration crisis started.
They voted for it! Chavez Chavez Chavez then it was Duro Maduro. That's a wealthy country natural resources wise. Noone but their own fault.Exactly, back in the day Venezuela was a very wealthy country, in fact poor Colombians used to go there to look for economic opportunities instead of the venecos coming over here.
But then they voted for Chavez and Maduro and their country went to hell in a hand basket real fast. And now just how their own government is stealing from them, they're going to other countries and stealing from their neighbors.
Many (but not all) are thieves, crooks, ladrones whatever you want to call them. The men resort to selling drugs and stealing, while the women resort to prostitution and extortion.
The recent uptick in crime in Medellin (and Colombia as a whole) can be attributed to Venezuelan migrants. From Colombia to Peru they travel, scheming and scamming wherever they go. Just look on Spanish language chat forums and comments on YouTube videos, etc. And you will see that all these other south america countries do not want them there.
There's even a Venezuelan organized crime group called Tren de Aragua that is pimping out their own women and girls in Peru, where they promise the girls free travel and free room and board and free cell phones and shit, but when they get to Peru they become "multadas" and basically have to fuck upwards of 20 peruanos a day for free while the Tren de Aragua dudes keep all their money and their 4 month old babies are still starving regardless, and those are the kind of people crossing the Darien and central America and Mexico and entering the US. And Joe Biden is welcoming them with open arms when they arrive. There's several that I know of that have even made it to NYC and by the looks of the pics they post on facebook they appear to be prostituting in NYC as well.
So please Sir JusTK, please do enlighten us as to why you are standing up for these dirty venecas??
Elvis 2008
09-16-23, 11:33
My life usually keeps me smiling.And you were smiling when you were getting into massive debt, getting drunk, and hitting rock bottom when you lived in Medellin. Hell, you bragged about getting hot water.
The bitterness with you happens when people do better than you. You are so egotistical you do not think it is possible for someone to do better.
They are from a Spanish speaking country. They are in a Spanish speaking country Except for a rare few who speak English, they can't "refuse" to speak a language they don't know. Next you'll be complaining because cows refuse to lay eggs.And this is so you. You say something everyone knows and act like you discovered a cure for cancer. Colombia is a Spanish speaking country? This is why I call you Professor Shit for Brains.
For the record, my future step daughter knows English better than her mother but I have never heard her speak it. In her case, I think it is because she is embarrassed she might say something wrong. And my gal's friends vary from not having accents to accents so thick they do not want to speak English even when they know it. So I get what DF is talking about, but maybe having and spreading Covid did something to your brain, and it is even lower wattage now.
If you find Colombian women to be so terrible and worthless, why in the fuck would you be seeking them out in Mexico?He is not. He blocks them, and I get why. Colombian women are prized by Mexican men, and the women get huge egos there. He is seeing the same thing from Colombian women in Mexico he saw in Medellin.
As for the rest of your complaint, maybe there's a reason why they all appear lazy to you. Hard work usually comes from inspiration. If they're all lazy around you, it's got to be because there's nothing about you to interest them. Quite the opposite. In general, Colombians are vivacious, energetic and friendly. Your presence must literally suck the life right out of them.
And I still can't figure out where jealousy comes into the picture. The only time any girl has a reason to be jealous is if you have made some sort of commitment to her. Why make commitments to hookers? If you're making commitments to hookers, why aren't you keeping them?And this is why no one should listen to you. You (and Viliany is the other one) are so full of shit about Colombian people. You go between hookers and people like they are one in the same. On this very thread, we got guys talking about carrying batons because they have been robbed so fucking much by hookers and non-hookers. The only other place I have seen or heard this much shit is in Brazil and if they do scope people there, what I can say is I have never heard about it.
Viliany is so fucking stupid he said cabbies do not rip people off when they do it all the time and even to Colombians. He said he doubted it happened to me because it never happened to him. It happens to EVERYONE in Colombia. You are doing the same bullshit with DF you are doing with me. Colombians are lazy? You must be the problem DF. Ha! What kind of people rob and drug others to get ahead? Hard working ones? God, you are dumb.
DF was clear that his experience was limited just to Medellin and while I will say I had more luck there than he did because I used seeking, the truth is the best women I had in Medellin were not from there. The women from there were more often than not excessively image conscious, greedy, drug using, and lazy. And that is not just my opinion and his. Paisas are ridiculed for their behaviors by other Colombians.
The truth is the Colombian elite, which you think you are an expert on because you talked to one person one time, are filled with people who are ethical, hard working, and intelligent. Among the men though, they cheat like hell and unlike the men, the women get mountains of shit for it when they do it, so I have not seen all these great virtues even among the elites you are talking about. The truth is that the elite Colombian women often seek out foreign men because they are so badly treated.
And yeah, I have seen the jealousy issue raise its ugly head at times. Unlike DF, I have not seen it as badly as he has though with Colombians in comparison to other women, so this may be one experience where we have seen different things, but at least he is on Planet Earth whereas you are on fucking Pluto.
Mr Enternational
09-16-23, 13:29
I heard this guy loudly bragging in a casa the other day. He spoke how Medellin has a bunch of cheap pussyHe was in a HOARHOUSE, not a library or church. Next shocker: People that have the nerve to enter a hospital when they are sick.
Why do you give women like that a way to contact you? I can understand fucking them, if that's what you like, but is there a need to give them your number?
I've always found women who ask for money are easy to deal with. You either give them money, or you tell them "no. " Same with the beggars on the street.Originally it was to contact them for repeat sessions if I wanted to fuck them agn. But now a days especially after they show their colors I'm just straight blocking them on all platforms.
Honestly lately especially since August, when I got back, I've been seeing more Paisas and Santandereanas as opposed to venecas and I am much more satisfied with their level of service and also they never ask for free money either.
Let's be honest most hookers are lazy. I'll never forget this hooker I met at Adelitas 10 years ago. She spoke perfect English and was getting ready to retire, paid cash for a house and car. She told me "all these girls are lazy. It's easy money to lay on your back" "don't believe that they are all poor and can't find a job so they become hookers. " LOL. She was funny as hell.
The Tall Man
09-16-23, 15:22
Why are you standing up for these venecas anyways?? While there are some who are honest hard working people, the vast majority of them are crooks and thieves just looking for the next way to get over on people.
Even the Colombians don't want them here.Ditto that!
TTM.
Mr Enternational
09-16-23, 23:20
Why are you standing up for these venecas anyways?? While there are some who are honest hard working people, the vast majority of them are crooks and thieves just looking for the next way to get over on people.
Even the Colombians don't want them here.Where are you finding the crooks and thieves? Most of the Venezuelans that I come into contact with are in the service industry (restaurants, salons, barber shops, etc) and I have never had them trying to rip me off. This is in Brazil, Colombia, Peru, Chile, and the Dominican Republic. I have dated several that have normal jobs and did not ask me for anything. If you are finding crooks and thieves among people that are doing street shit, then that is to be expected with any nationality.
MateoCast98
09-17-23, 13:07
Nowadays, I think all the men fuck bareback in Colombia. I do only bareback and all the girls on facebook are OK to fuck with me without condom. Only few of them ask me more money. Same for the botero girls, usually they asK 50 000 pesos + 50 000 for BBFS. Even the pornstars in Colobia accept without any hesitation but are mucho more expensive.
Today, nobody use condoms in Colombia. It's over!Which pornstars for example? Are you talking about the really popular onlyfans crowd or the child on pornhub. Feel free to DM if you don't want to post here.
Blue Touch
09-17-23, 14:39
When I'm in Centro I stay clear of other gringos.
Unfortunately because of the onslaught of the new mongers here who used to frequent SEA, and from many others places since the Pandemic, these new mongers since Colombia opened up eight months after the Pandemic have changed many things for foreign mongers in Centro now.
Sometimes I see these mongers as though I was somewhere in SEA who typically have a beer in one hand, and a Cigarette in the other.
Some of them, but not all of them I find disgusting, not only by their personal habits and appearance, but with there dealings with the SW's, and the locals who frequent Centro daily, hence leaving what I call a tarnished image for all of the foreign mongers here of which many are good guys.
As a result of this, the mongering environment is very different than before the Pandemic.
And it's not just the older mongers but also the younger mongers who have contributed to tarnishing all the foreign mongers, as though we have a stigma.Interesting. You are the one who promoted the veracruz / Botero area on this site everyday and told mongers to come.
Where are you finding the crooks and thieves? Most of the Venezuelans that I come into contact with are in the service industry (restaurants, salons, barber shops, etc) and I have never had them trying to rip me off. This is in Brazil, Colombia, Peru, Chile, and the Dominican Republic. I have dated several that have normal jobs and did not ask me for anything. If you are finding crooks and thieves among people that are doing street shit, then that is to be expected with any nationality.Let's see, how about the pregnant lesbian dyke chick that stole my laptop and camera out of my backpack on my first day of my Jan thru March trip, she was Venezuelan. You see I have first hand experiences to back up my claims. I'm not just talking out my ass like MB1 would do.
Also I know a lot of them personally, I too have dated several of them evn gone with them to Guatapé, etc. And like I said not all are bad some are good honest people. My handyman dude was honest, there's a taxi driver from Maracaibo I met that was honest, many food vendors as well that are honest. But those are in the minority. The majority of the Venezuelan migrants tend to be "the people doing street shit."
Originally it was to contact them for repeat sessions if I wanted to fuck them agn. But now a days especially after they show their colors I'm just straight blocking them on all platforms.
Honestly lately especially since August, when I got back, I've been seeing more Paisas and Santandereanas as opposed to venecas and I am much more satisfied with their level of service and also they never ask for free money either.So you've already found a solution to the problem? Why rant about it?
For the record, plenty of Paisas behave in exactly the same way. Over the years I've blocked dozens of them. Scams, attempted thefts, bullshit pity stories. I've heard them all. I'm sure long-term visitors to any other mongering destination deal with the same shit.
It's not about Venezuela. It's about poverty. Worldwide there are 4 main responses to poverty that I can think of:
1. Surrender to it. The lifeless folks begging for change and spending what they collect on their addiction of choice fall here.
2. Exploit it. Find other people in the same situation and use them to pull yourself out of poverty. Pimps, gang leaders, traffickers etc.
3. Attack it. Steal, scam, kill, whatever it takes to get what others have. Don't give a damn about who gets hurt. There's some overlap with group 2.
4. Overcome it. These are the people who work, scrimp and save, hoping they don't fall victim to groups 2 or 3, trying to make a better life. Most don't succeed.
Interesting. You are the one who promoted the veracruz / Botero area on this site everyday and told mongers to come.Yes I did, and than the Pandemic hit, and Colombia was one of the very few countries wide open after only eight months while SEA basically only opened up this year, so a lot of mongers who would frequent SEA started showing up here and when finding out how inexpensive it is, more and more have shown up and polluted mongering for the foreigners.
From my perspective, and for guys who have been mongering in Centro here for at least five years, they know how different things are here now.
As an example, I have a friend who has been staying in Centro for the past two months. He seems to be only going with Venezuelans, and he complains that they always want more money, have body odor issues, and other bullshit, albeit the Colombians due way less.
Prior to the Pandemic, the Venezuelan SW's where not in the majority of workers around Centro, but now they are, and at that time they would constantly undercut the Colombians. Well now they weigh out number the Colombians working Centro, and with the onslaught of new mongers who can't believe they could be getting pussy for less than $ 10 USD, along with all their reports, and bingo, here we are today, which you really can't blame on me. LOL.
Another example of how shitty it can be nowadays. On Friday night I took a stroll with some buddies around Veracruz at 8 PM.
One Vennie was with two other friends and was very aggressive and wanted me to take her. I politely told her I had no leche and no desire but she said it's not important that you can't leche and to take her because she needed money. All kind of bullshit and apparently she's probably duped some other gringos who I can only imagine had bad sessions, but wouldn't be trying this stuff with a local.
I don't remember the Colombian SW's prior to the Pandemic being as hard core as some of the Venezuelan SW's are today.
But I don't blame them, and respect them as they are just trying to make a living.
I told my friend he would have better luck with the Colombians.
So for many of the board members who recently started mongering here, they don't know how different it was prior to the Pandemic. And for many they think this place is the best thing since sliced bread.
Unfortunately though there is not much that can done about this except to convene a grand jury of Medellin mongers, and if I am found culpable in the demise of mongering here I guess send me off to prison somewhere. LOL.
Yes I did, and than the Pandemic hit, and Colombia was one of the very few countries wide open after only eight months while SEA basically only opened up this year, so a lot of mongers who would frequent SEA started showing up here and when finding out how inexpensive it is, more and more have shown up and polluted mongering for the foreigners
Unfortunately though there is not much that can done about this except to convene a grand jury of Medellin mongers, and if I am found culpable in the demise of mongering here I guess send me off to prison somewhere. LOL.I do remember when you were posting daily about el Centro, and highly encouraging guys to come.
I was thinking, nooooo, stop! LOL.
Not your fault obviously, this invasion. Only partially, LOL.
I have learned to keep my mouth shut when I find a new great place.
I travel all thru Brazil and I selfishly like to keep it good.
Just reminiscing, I remember when Cartagena was a true gem of a place.
I also remember when Cali was the hot spot for chasing girls in Colombia and Medellin was never visited, being far too dangerous.
I discovered Medellin on a whim many moons ago, and being a gringo was a true novelty.
I still enjoy it, it's just way different now.
Enjoy!
When does the Grand Jury convene? LOL.
Yes I did, ...I was amused when you still continue to try to correct LIH. LOL.
Look at it this way, the gringos changed the character of many places. I think it started with Parque Lleras. It's been changed so much that I think regular girl will avoid it so not be mistaken as a hooker. It's only a matter of time to see the changes in the strip clubs and on the street. I saw all these unfolding on ISG and in person. You can see the clue on the report today. Also checkout Nypher's post in Cartagena thread to see the changes.. LOL
GeneHickman
09-18-23, 03:48
I do remember when you were posting daily about el Centro, and highly encouraging guys to come.
I was thinking, nooooo, stop! LOL.
Not your fault obviously, this invasion. Only partially, LOL.
I have learned to keep my mouth shut when I find a new great place.
I travel all thru Brazil and I selfishly like to keep it good.
Just reminiscing, I remember when Cartagena was a true gem of a place.
I also remember when Cali was the hot spot for chasing girls in Colombia and Medellin was never visited, being far too dangerous.
I discovered Medellin on a whim many moons ago, and being a gringo was a true novelty.
I still enjoy it, it's just way different now.
Enjoy!
When does the Grand Jury convene? LOL.Agree with much you're saying. How do you meet girls in Brazil Facebook / other social media, termas, or some other way? Also how challenging has Portuguese been to navigate? BTW your mailbox is full.
MongerHunger
09-18-23, 06:20
I was amused when you still continue to try to correct LIH. LOL.
Look at it this way, the gringos changed the character of many places. I think it started with Parque Lleras. It's been changed so much that I think regular girl will avoid it so not be mistaken as a hooker. It's only a matter of time to see the changes in the strip clubs and on the street. I saw all these unfolding on ISG and in person. You can see the clue on the report today. Also checkout Nypher's post in Cartagena thread to see the changes.. LOLThe key is to get off the beaten path in Colombia where a lot of things are not changing. Most gringos do not go there. It can also be a true cultural experience.
Mr Enternational
09-18-23, 12:51
Let's see, how about the pregnant lesbian dyke chick that stole my laptop and camera out of my backpack on my first day of my Jan thru March trip, she was Venezuelan. You see I have first hand experiences to back up my claims. I'm not just talking out my ass like MB1 would do.Yes and where did you find or how did you first come into contact with this person?
JusTK, please do enlighten us as to why you are standing up for these dirty venecas??Bcos of crass statements like the one you made. Venzlan woman are lazy fkn bltches, as if you had great insight in to the matter, and not some general slur based on your own anecdotal sample of a handful of them. One could meet a group of women from ant country in the world and conclude the same thing, so what you said was just meaningless nonsense based on some bias you have from being a victim urself. Crime happens everywhere. No need to tarnish a whole nation because some skank stole your cigarettes.
Yes and where did you find or how did you first come into contact with this person?A friend of a botero girl.
Bcos of crass statements like the one you made. Venzlan woman are lazy fkn bltches, as if you had great insight in to the matter, and not some general slur based on your own anecdotal sample of a handful of them. One could meet a group of women from ant country in the world and conclude the same thing, so what you said was just meaningless nonsense based on some bias you have from being a victim urself. Crime happens everywhere. No need to tarnish a whole nation because some skank stole your cigarettes.Well you go ahead and stand up for them all you want, it's futile. I'm done trying talk any sense into you. And it wasn't cigarettes that were stolen, maybe if your reading comprehension skills were better you would have read that it was a laptop and a camera, not a pack of cigarettes.
Blue Touch
09-19-23, 00:09
Yes I did, and than the Pandemic hit, and Colombia was one of the very few countries wide open after only eight months while SEA basically only opened up this year, so a lot of mongers who would frequent SEA started showing up here and when finding out how inexpensive it is, more and more have shown up and polluted mongering for the foreigners.
From my perspective, and for guys who have been mongering in Centro here for at least five years, they know how different things are here now.
As an example, I have a friend who has been staying in Centro for the past two months. He seems to be only going with Venezuelans, and he complains that they always want more money, have body odor issues, and other bullshit, albeit the Colombians due way less.
Prior to the Pandemic, the Venezuelan SW's where not in the majority of workers around Centro, but now they are, and at that time they would constantly undercut the Colombians. Well now they weigh out number the Colombians working Centro, and with the onslaught of new mongers who can't believe they could be getting pussy for less than $ 10 USD, along with all their reports, and bingo, here we are today, which you really can't blame on me. LOL.
Another example of how shitty it can be nowadays. On Friday night I took a stroll with some buddies around Veracruz at 8 PM.
One Vennie was with two other friends and was very aggressive and wanted me to take her. I politely told her I had no leche and no desire but she said it's not important that you can't leche and to take her because she needed money. All kind of bullshit and apparently she's probably duped some other gringos who I can only imagine had bad sessions, but wouldn't be trying this stuff with a local.
I don't remember the Colombian SW's prior to the Pandemic being as hard core as some of the Venezuelan SW's are today.
But I don't blame them, and respect them as they are just trying to make a living.
I told my friend he would have better luck with the Colombians.
So for many of the board members who recently started mongering here, they don't know how different it was prior to the Pandemic. And for many they think this place is the best thing since sliced bread.
Unfortunately though there is not much that can done about this except to convene a grand jury of Medellin mongers, and if I am found culpable in the demise of mongering here I guess send me off to prison somewhere. LOL.I remember you admitted that an increase of gringo in Centro will harm the price structure and the relationship between the girls and western clients a few years ago. Also you knew that the gringos who are likely to come to Centro are those with problematic characters. Still you couldn't stop bragging your "knowledge" and street smartness, and told everybody to come to Centro.
Well you go ahead and stand up for them all you want, it's futile. I'm done trying talk any sense into you. And it wasn't cigarettes that were stolen, maybe if your reading comprehension skills were better you would have read that it was a laptop and a camera, not a pack of cigarettes.Personally, my reading comprehension is pretty good, but my memory isn't what it used to be.
Wasn't she the girl you left alone in your apartment while you walked down to find her a taxi?
If so, her being a Venezuelan has nothing to do with it. If you leave any hooker alone in your apartment with anything of value around, chances are, something is going to be stolen. Even leaving 1 alone in a room where there's something valuable, even for a minute, is giving her a green light to grab whatever she can.
My own, limited, experiences with Venezuelan women have been fantastic.
LoveItHere
09-19-23, 05:26
I remember you admitted that an increase of gringo in Centro will harm the price structure and the relationship between the girls and western clients a few years ago. Also you knew that the gringos who are likely to come to Centro are those with problematic characters. Still you couldn't stop bragging your "knowledge" and street smartness, and told everybody to come to Centro.I actually sent a private message to him and two others 7+ months ago that basically said to "shut the F up!" he is unable to do so. He again had to place a price in his response. He convinced maybe 50 - 100 guys to come. Being one of the first and easiest countries to enter after COVID brought in thousands. But the real problem was Youtube, Twitter, and other videos that convinced tens of thousands to come visit.
The game has changed in LaLa Land. That is why the girls are fewer and much harder to find now. No, I will not tell you and slit my own throat.
The future as I see it.
The gringos keep offering more and more money. I have had 3 girls ask for 100,000 for no condom sex. I declined. Already saw attitude with that offer. There is local and gringo pricing. In the next 2-3 years the gringo price will be twice as high as the local price. So many girls will make the switch to gringos only. The locals will get tired of such high prices and stop coming. Locals make up around 95% of the Centro girl's customers. So a few less customers will cause a few less girls. Less girls will mean a few less customers so then a few less girls. Then the price will be so high that the majority of the Centro girls will make the jump to Poblado. The remaining girls will be only on bar street behind the church with only the too young and the too old available. From there Poblado may have so many girls of the night that the mayor may shut it down. Then all the girls will only be found in strip clubs, casas, and online.
Elvis 2008
09-19-23, 08:59
Also I know a lot of them personally, I too have dated several of them evn gone with them to Guatap, etc. And like I said not all are bad some are good honest people. My handyman dude was honest, there's a taxi driver from Maracaibo I met that was honest, many food vendors as well that are honest. But those are in the minority. The majority of the Venezuelan migrants tend to be "the people doing street shit."LOL. Gabacho, you are totally right. I was engaged to a Venezuelan. She had a mother who did not steal from the government and prided herself on not doing so. Eventually, the family moved to Peru and left all their stuff behind. I met one of her friends whose father supposedly ripped off the government and they got some of their money out.
The point is Venezuela had a culture of theft. The average Venezuelan felt they lived in a rich country and were only poor because they got ripped off. So the average Venezuelan IMO felt like their stealing was just taking back what they were owed and as in the example above, it was almost like you were foolish if you did not steal.
JustTK thinks all the world's ills are the fault of the USA. Venezuela has more oil than Saudi Arabia, and the reason Venezuela is poor and not rich like Saudi Arabia or even rich like it was is because Hugo Chavez brought in a culture of thieving. He was determined to control the wealth to keep his political opponents in check. Any time any business started making money in Venezuela, he would take it for pennies on the dollar and put his people in command. He claimed these companies were stealing while it was he in fact who was doing the stealing.
And Chavez was an equal opportunity thief. He stole from the USA, Canada, Europe, China, and even Russia. The country should be richer than Saudi Arabia and instead people are eating out of the garbage throughout the country. My ex would send me videos of it and they would make you sick.
Yeah, some people have adapted to Colombia and are honest and hard working, but there are plenty who have taken the culture of stealing with them. It blows me away how the Colombians have taken them in and been so kind given how so many Venezuelans have acted.
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The future as I see it.
The gringos keep offering more and more money. I have had 3 girls ask for 100,000 for no condom sex. I declined. Already saw attitude with that offer. There is local and gringo pricing. In the next 2-3 years the gringo price will be twice as high as the local price. So many girls will make the switch to gringos only. The locals will get tired of such high prices and stop coming. Locals make up around 95% of the Centro girl's customers. So a few less customers will cause a few less girls. Less girls will mean a few less customers so then a few less girls. Then the price will be so high that the majority of the Centro girls will make the jump to Poblado. The remaining girls will be only on bar street behind the church with only the too young and the too old available. From there Poblado may have so many girls of the night that the mayor may shut it down. Then all the girls will only be found in strip clubs, casas, and online.Not sure about your prediction based on your estimate that locals make up 95% of the Centro girls customers, but seems reasonable.
So based on your estimate, are your saying that 5% of the gringos will drive the pricing so high in Centro for both locals and gringos, that the majority of the Centro girls will jump to Poblado.
The customers who pull in Pobaldo are not going to go with the majority of girls of work Centro as they not very desirable.
The "jump" of girls from Centro to Poblado has been taking place for several months now, and the quality is not all that great, and I doubt it can become any more saturated, especially with more fat and ugly girls from Centro.
Also, based on the majority of the clients being locals in Centro, my prediction is pricing won't change much in Centro except for inflation.
And also something you may not be aware of, but the locals do control pricing to a certain degree in Centro.
If you spend much time in Centro and observe how the locals interact with the girls, a lot of times a local will go up to a girl, and then after a short period of time will walk away.
Typically what has happened is that the local made a "offer" below what the SW wanted which typically a lot of the locals do with the SW's.
So the SW's are cognizant of how sensitive pricing can be, and if they all tried to ask for too much would have little to no business.
So the notion that there is going to be a mass exodus of the Centro girls to Poblado in the future is hard to imagine.
And as far as local and gringo pricing, believe it or not, there are gringos here that can and do get "local pricing" in Centro, but they have Spanish speaking skills.
Well you go ahead and stand up for them all you want, it's futile. I'm done trying talk any sense into you. And it wasn't cigarettes that were stolen, maybe if your reading comprehension skills were better you would have read that it was a laptop and a camera, not a pack of cigarettes.Then its clearly you that's the lazy bltch. Too lazy to hide your stuff and bltchin about 1 girl as if she represents a whole country.
DramaFree11
09-19-23, 15:07
Then its clearly you that's the lazy bltch. Too lazy to hide your stuff and bltchin about 1 girl as if she represents a whole country.I have to agree, Venz. Chicks are even lazier than Colombian women which is very hard to do. They are striving for big and fat asses, but the Colombian bodies are much better.
I had a Venz. Chick work for me briefly a today disaster.
Then its clearly you that's the lazy bltch. Too lazy to hide your stuff and bltchin about 1 girl as if she represents a whole country.Actually it was hidden in my backpack, but I don't want to get into the details of all that, I reported on it back when it happened as well as the failed scopolamine attempt. But anyways yes the Venezuelan people are lazy, inherently criminal-minded, thieves and scammers. And you JustTK are a stupid * idiot.
Elvis 2008
09-19-23, 18:30
I have to agree, Venz. Chicks are even lazier than Colombian women which is very hard to do. They are striving for big and fat asses, but the Colombian bodies are much better.
I had a Venz. Chick work for me briefly a today disaster.My gal's father hired a Vennie for his farm, and he was hurt when the Vennie stole from him. I felt for him. I got ripped off by one too, and I made jokes with the father about Vennies.
He had a dog roped up he used for safety purposes. I asked him why he didn't just rope up a Vennie for the job and then I said, "Oh right, the dog is more ethical and less likely to steal from you. " They told me I was being bad but laughed in a way that they were like, "Yeah, that is true. "
We then ran into the grandfather on the mother's side near there, and he had quite the gun collection. I asked him which gun was the best to shoot Vennies, and he laughed and said he didn't shoot them. I think Colombians are close enough to Venezuelans looks wise that they have a lot more compassion for the Vennies than in Peru because Peruvians look so different. The Vennies are super easy to spot in Peru.
And Chavez gave such mixed messages. He chastised people for materialism while stealing the country blind. Thing is when I was in Venezuela I did not see the hotties like I have outside of the country. I did go to the hottest strip club and picked up a the rare spinner there. She was attractive and amazing in bed. When it came time to pay, she would not give me a price. It was like, "If I give you a price, then I am an evil money grubbing capitalist. " That is how Chavez so fucked up the country.
I will say this though DF. All the Vennie women I have had have been good if not great in bed, and the ones in Mexico are not as cocky as the Colombians in Mexico. And there was one really hot Vennie I could have had in CDMX that I blew it with. She surprised me and turned out to be an incredibly honest and ethical person almost as if to compensate for the Vennie reputation.
So while there are exceptions like her, I think guys should just assume a Vennie is a thief until proven otherwise.
If you spend much time in Centro and observe how the locals interact with the girls, a lot of times a local will go up to a girl, and then after a short period of time will walk away.Oh is that what happens. I thought the guys were asking if they had a pene, and when they say no, they walk away.
Oh is that what happens. I thought the guys were asking if they had a pene, and when they say no, they walk away.Yeah I hadn't thought about that, as I'm sure that has been the case at times.
I suppose I was always looking at the interactions with what appeared to be women, I guess I need to pay more attention so I don't disseminate any wrong information here, or god forbid exclude any type of monger here.
I suppose given my lapse of excluding some mongers here with a different orientation, that I could be subject to sanctioning, maybe perhaps excluded somehow like a disbarred attorney.
I will say this though DF. All the Vennie women I have had have been good if not great in bed, and the ones in Mexico are not as cocky as the Colombians in Mexico. And there was one really hot Vennie I could have had in CDMX that I blew it with. She surprised me and turned out to be an incredibly honest and ethical person almost as if to compensate for the Vennie reputation.
So while there are exceptions like her, I think guys should just assume a Vennie is a thief until proven otherwise.Yea I agree. They usually are pretty good in bed, although lately I've been into paisas now, but I've had countless great sessions with vennies. My point wasnt about how good they are at fucking. This whole thing started because I had replied to a post by doom about how vennies tend to be lazy and ask for free money without doing anything to earn it.
They tend to have a vibe where they think they are owed money just because. They don't really understand the way the world works. Kind of like their own government I suppose. Most of them just want a hand out or they look for ways to cheat and steal. But they are really good for sex, much better than the Mexican mutts you find in the streets of La Merced in Mexico City, but not better than my beautiful light skinned paisas I've been seeing lately.
Venezuelan people are lazy, inherently criminal-minded, thieves and scammers. And you JustTK are a stupid * idiot.USAns are lazy, inherently criminal minded, violent, selfish, exceptionalist, stupid, thieves and scammers. And you gabacho are USAn.
Why do I think this? Bcos I met one once.
USAns are lazy, inherently criminal minded, violent, selfish, exceptionalist, stupid, thieves and scammers. And you gabacho are USAn.
Why do I think this? Bcos I met one once.Jajajajaja fair enough.
DoomBringer321
09-21-23, 22:06
Yea I agree. They usually are pretty good in bed, although lately I've been into paisas now, but I've had countless great sessions with vennies. My point wasnt about how good they are at fucking. This whole thing started because I had replied to a post by doom about how vennies tend to be lazy and ask for free money without doing anything to earn it.
They tend to have a vibe where they think they are owed money just because. They don't really understand the way the world works. Kind of like their own government I suppose. Most of them just want a hand out or they look for ways to cheat and steal. But they are really good for sex, much better than the Mexican mutts you find in the streets of La Merced in Mexico City, but not better than my beautiful light skinned paisas I've been seeing lately.Women throughout the earth have the capacity to be porn stars even if most do not necessarily have the porn star look, however, most women do not give their best unless they know they need to compete most Venezuelans will fuck better than Ecuadorians in Ecuador, they will fuck better in Mexico, Colombia and so on why, because they know they have to step up their game if they want to grab the attention and resources of men of value, Venezuelans have a bead reputation as "husband stealers" guess why because they do they are at their best when they have to step up and compete this is why I encourage younger men to "spin plates" and have a rotation and let them know about it, the flaky one will fall off the true troopers will stay until eventually one wins out, over here in Ecuador it has become fierce Ecuadorian and Venezuelan women are marking territories and with zero contemplation or compulsion about using violence in these streets it is the same in Colombia I am told, Peru has become contested, latina women will compete for men regardless of nations only white women in the western world seem to be clueless the only reason why men get caught in the west is because they are reckless I was raised around men who found out that they had brothers in different families when the patraicrch died true pimping at it's finest we should all be learning from such exemplary performances.
So in order to further enlighten you humans I shall post a beginner's guide by my hommie on TikTok.
https://www.tiktok.com/@sui_sauce/video/7252157707325623595?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc&web_id=7276204401416095237
Has to be the know it all buffoons that continually attempt to impress others by preaching the obvious.
Its like they just discovered the spoon and can't wait to tell us all about it.
This is your mind on drugs. Addict.
Has to be the know it all buffoons that continually attempt to impress others by preaching the obvious.
Its like they just discovered the spoon and can't wait to tell us all about it.
This is your mind on drugs. Addict.Yea like JusTK he thinks he fucking knows it all. He even goes as far as to say he knows I'm a USA cuando en realidad soy Mexicano pero bueno el sabe lo que sabe. Stupidest idiotas en Medellin discutiendo The stupidest shit in Medellin, but at least it's being posted in the correct forum.
Yea like JusTK he thinks he fucking knows it all. He even goes as far as to say he knows I'm a USA cuando en realidad soy Mexicano pero bueno el sabe lo que sabe..I am so sorry Gabacho. I must apologise. After you claimed you knew what half a population of an entire coutnry thinks, I thought that I could make a claim on you without knowing you. I didn't expect to cause so much ill-feeling. I assumed you were made of sterner stuff. Once again, many apologies. I will go easier on all Mexicans from this moment now that I know they are so fragile.
I am so sorry Gabacho. I must apologise. After you claimed you knew what half a population of an entire coutnry thinks, I thought that I could make a claim on you without knowing you. I didn't expect to cause so much ill-feeling. I assumed you were made of sterner stuff. Once again, many apologies. I will go easier on all Mexicans from this moment now that I know they are so fragile.Apology accepted. Actually maybe I was going a little too hard on the Venezuelans. They aren't all bad people. Priscilla in Cali actually went out of her way to make sure I was having a good time and she was honest and caring and didn't steal anything from me. I have many years of experience with them and more often than not they are good experiences. Honestly I think I'm just still pissed off at that stupid lesbian bitxh that stole my shit back in January.
Yea like JusTK he thinks he fucking knows it all. He even goes as far as to say he knows I'm a USA cuando en realidad soy Mexicano pero bueno el sabe lo que sabe. Stupidest idiotas en Medellin discutiendo The stupidest shit in Medellin, but at least it's being posted in the correct forum.Well, I think given your screen name, it's a fair assumption you're from the Yew Ess. And you don't capitalize mexicano. A native speaker of Spanish would know that.
Well, I think given your screen name, it's a fair assumption you're from the Yew Ess. And you don't capitalize mexicano. A native speaker of Spanish would know that.True about my screen name LOL. And actually the autocorrect on my phone capitalized Mexicano as I typed it, I just just too lazy to go back and delete the capital M and replace it with a lowercase one.
Well, I think given your screen name, it's a fair assumption you're from the Yew Ess. And you don't capitalize mexicano. A native speaker of Spanish would know that.Also there are many native Spanish speakers who spell words entirely wrong let alone use proper capitalization and punctuation.
Particularly they mix up the letters be and v as well as s and see. Words that come to mind are:
"estube" instead of "estuve" "no te vallas" when it should be "no te vayas" and "haber" instead of "a ver" and "Nececito" instead of "necesito".
These mistakes are common among native speakers of Spanish who don't even speak a second language. I see them and many more spelling errors all the time when messaging with native Spanish speakers.
Has anyone else noticed that epm has more than doubled the price per kWh of electricity?? Where I live I have the little box where you have to buy a prepaid recarga of electricity and you enter the pin number off the receipt into the box to top up the electricity. Anyways on past trips it was always a very reasonable 250 to 300 pesos per kWh but now all of the sudden it has risen to 792 pesos per kWh which is more expensive than many people in the US pay for electricity.
Also there's problems going on with the third largest cell phone service provider Tigo and they might be going out of business soon.
Has anyone else noticed that epm has more than doubled the price per kWh of electricity?? Anyways on past trips it was always a very reasonable 250 to 300 pesos per kWh but now all of the sudden it has risen to 792 pesos per kWh
.The presence of mexicans has clearly elevated the estrato of your barrio.
DoomBringer321
09-29-23, 02:02
I have heard far too many things about how dangerous it is to live in Ecuador and that Colombia is so much better I find such conversation amusing since my small business dealing with expats is actually growing so this is my response to Colombian travelers that say that Ecuador is like Mogadishu in the 90's.
https://youtu.be/TpKeTUzxKjE?si=mgI2Zyge1DjAZl0q
Why does it have to be a 6 mil peso iPhone? She can get a used one, 12 or 13 model for much less. Average Lleras hoe can make 300 mil cop per night, serving just 1 dude. 5 times x week = 1,500,000 cop. Do your math. Its not a rocket science. These hoes can make much more than a cashier at Burger King and can easily afford a freaking iphone or a computer. Do you realize she can get a payment plan and pay it off over a year or two? Your claim that every hoe's iPhone is a gift from some sucker is bullshit.First point of business, nobody claimed "every hoe's IPhone is a gift from a sucker. " It's worth mentioning that several people in the past have posted they buy iPhones that are a few years old and bring them to give to girls. At least one guy asked how many he could bring, without running afoul of Customs.
Now on the the fun. We'll use Mami'sBoy Math for this.
Average El Centro hoe can make 400 k per day (40 k for 15-20 minutes, 2 sessions per hour, easy 400 k per day). Multiply by 5 and that's 2 million per week. They can easily afford an iPhone, computer and to live in an estrato 5 neighborhood.
Average Facebook hoe can make 600 k per night. 200-300 k per session, 2 or 3 nightly, 3 million per week.
Average "legit" college girl hoe can make 1. 2 million per night. 400-600 k per session, 2 or 3 daily, 4. 8-6 million weekly.
Apparently, every hooker in Colombia is raking in huge amounts of cash.
However, in the real world it doesn't work that way. Very few girls work hard at hooking.
Now on to those "legit college girls. ".
The "doing it for extra money" is almost always bullshit. Doing it because there's no way she could afford college without selling pussy, is much more realistic.
I was just talking to a friend who is spending a few months in Medellin. He mentioned a girl we've both been with. She's mostly retired now, only seeing an occasional old favorite. She started like most, then worked her way into the Mansion. She hustled, saved her money and bought a car. She used the car to do airport runs for guys, straight from immigration to penetration, or the other way around. She continued to be smart with her money and used her business to pay for college. Now that she's got her degree, she's mostly retired.
It does happen, it just doesn't happen as often as you like to pretend.
Speaking of college girls, if she is legit college girl its a great plus for me personally. I would rather spend my time with someone more educated, someone with goals in life other than party and drugs, someone who doesn't fuck dudes for living but rather to supplement income or pay for school expenses. Some do speak English, which is also a plus. But I understand your point of view, if you are fine with a 15 minute quickie with a street girl, you could care less if she is in college or not. My target audience is different than yours.I think I it figured it out. You're not a monger, you're a Pell grant.
Women throughout the earth have the capacity to be porn stars even if most do not necessarily have the porn star look, however, most women do not give their best unless they know they need to compete most Venezuelans will fuck better than Ecuadorians in Ecuador, they will fuck better in Mexico, Colombia and so on why, because they know they have to step up their game if they want to grab the attention and resources of men of value, Venezuelans have a bead reputation as "husband stealers" guess why because they do they are at their best when they have to step up and compete this is why I encourage younger men to "spin plates" and have a rotation and let them know about it, the flaky one will fall off the true troopers will stay until eventually one wins out, over here in Ecuador it has become fierce Ecuadorian and Venezuelan women are marking territories and with zero contemplation or compulsion about using violence in these streets it is the same in Colombia I am told, Peru has become contested, latina women will compete for men regardless of nations only white women in the western world seem to be clueless the only reason why men get caught in the west is because they are reckless I was raised around men who found out that they had brothers in different families when the patraicrch died true pimping at it's finest we should all be learning from such exemplary performances.
So in order to further enlighten you humans I shall post a beginner's guide by my hommie on TikTok.
https://www.tiktok.com/@sui_sauce/video/7252157707325623595?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc&web_id=7276204401416095237Doom can you enlighten me as to the process of crossing the Rumichaca border crossing into Ecuador?? Do I just get myself to Ipiales by bus and then take a moto taxi to the border and walk across into Ecuador?? Do I just need my passport? Do they ask to see proof of a return bus ticket or flight within 90 days showing onward travel?
Also after crossing Rumichaca is there another bus terminal nearby to catch the bus to Quito or Guayaquil??
Thanks,
Gabacho.
Elvis 2008
09-29-23, 22:15
I think I it figured it out. You're not a monger, you're a Pell grant.WTF is wrong with you? You spend months lecturing about Covid and spread it around the country.
Then you act like you have some special power with money and how wisely you are spending it on women. If you are so fucking smart, why are you so fucking broke?
Then you brag about how your woman sends you text messages and acts all sweet with you because she is so into you, and you are ragging on MB because he looks for character in women?
You can stop posting now because all your posts are the same.
Whatever any guy pays a woman, it is more than you do.
Whenever any other guy gets affection from a woman, it is because she wants money. With you, it is because you are so great.
You fuck women; other guys fuck hookers.
No one knows what women really do with their money except you.
Strippers lie to all other men except you. With you, strippers are 100% honest.
It is not that hard playing the hooker game. You pay, you fuck. It is a lot harder to tell if a woman likes you for you, in part because of your money, or solely because of it. Any guy who puts himself out there, who stands on the plate can go down swinging. In fact, it is rare to hit the home run. The key is to keep learning. There are no absolutes except one.
When some narcissist likes you steps up to the plate and says all he hits are home runs, tune them out.
You are the last person anyone should listen to on this forum about women.
Doom can you enlighten me as to the process of crossing the Rumichaca border crossing into Ecuador?? Do I just get myself to Ipiales by bus and then take a moto taxi to the border and walk across into Ecuador?? Do I just need my passport? Do they ask to see proof of a return bus ticket or flight within 90 days showing onward travel?
Also after crossing Rumichaca is there another bus terminal nearby to catch the bus to Quito or Guayaquil??
Thanks,
Gabacho.I did it, but in the reverse order. Took a bus from Quito's North Terminal to Tulcan, which is a town on the Ecuadorian side. From Tulcan took a cab to the border. Got off, walked thru ecuadorian customs, got my exit stamp, then crossed the bridge, and walked through Colombian customs, got my entry stamp. Then took another cab to Ipiales bus station. From there, got on a bus to Cali. Nobody asked me anything. Passport is all you need. Ipiales is sketchy as fuck at night.
First point of business, nobody claimed "every hoe's IPhone is a gift from a sucker. " It's worth mentioning that several people in the past have posted they buy iPhones that are a few years old and bring them to give to girls. At least one guy asked how many he could bring, without running afoul of Customs.
Now on the the fun. We'll use Mami'sBoy Math for this.
Average El Centro hoe can make 400 k per day (40 k for 15-20 minutes, 2 sessions per hour, easy 400 k per day). Multiply by 5 and that's 2 million per week. They can easily afford an iPhone, computer and to live in an estrato 5 neighborhood.
Average Facebook hoe can make 600 k per night. 200-300 k per session, 2 or 3 nightly, 3 million per week.
Average "legit" college girl hoe can make 1. 2 million per night. 400-600 k per session, 2 or 3 daily, 4. 8-6 million weekly.
Apparently, every hooker in Colombia is raking in huge amounts of cash.
However, in the real world it doesn't work that way. Very few girls work hard at hooking.
Now on to those "legit college girls. ".
The "doing it for extra money" is almost always bullshit. Doing it because there's no way she could afford college without selling pussy, is much more realistic.
I was just talking to a friend who is spending a few months in Medellin. He mentioned a girl we've both been with. She's mostly retired now, only seeing an occasional old favorite. She started like most, then worked her way into the Mansion. She hustled, saved her money and bought a car. She used the car to do airport runs for guys, straight from immigration to penetration, or the other way around. She continued to be smart with her money and used her business to pay for college. Now that she's got her degree, she's mostly retired.
It does happen, it just doesn't happen as often as you like to pretend.
I think I it figured it out. You're not a monger, you're a Pell grant.While the rates per session / date are correct, you inflated the number of sessions they do daily. A legit college girl won't fuck 2-3 guys daily, you know why? Because she is in fucking college, and doesn't have time for multiple sessions. Plus, she doesn't do it for living unlike the hoes you are fucking. Most girls have time to meet once or twice a week. Those girls who also have normal jobs, full time or part time, can meet once or twice per month. You got to redo your math, genius. I have said this before, there are thousands, if not tens of thousands, college girls in MDE alone. Some are available for p4 p, others are not. I never said it is easy to find the ones who are, but they are out there, it takes time and effort to find them. Also, there is a large category of women who have real jobs, but are open to p4 p because the pay is low. There are girls who are opposed to p4 p, but are open to meet and date the right gringo. Sure, they are not easy to find and score, but they do exist.
Speaking of selling pussy to pay for college. I admire the women who do whatever it takes to get education and get a better life after. If she just needs some extra money, that's fine too.
What are you doing on ISG though? I thought you had a GF. Killing time while waiting for your truck to get loaded / unloaded? Or while taking a shit at Flying J truck stop? You think you are a Medellin guru and everybody needs your "valuable" advice? LOL.
I did it, but in the reverse order. Took a bus from Quito's North Terminal to Tulcan, which is a town on the Ecuadorian side. From Tulcan took a cab to the border. Got off, walked thru ecuadorian customs, got my exit stamp, then crossed the bridge, and walked through Colombian customs, got my entry stamp. Then took another cab to Ipiales bus station. From there, got on a bus to Cali. Nobody asked me anything. Passport is all you need. Ipiales is sketchy as fuck at night.Thanks for the info bro. I'm seriously thinking about going to check out Ecuador, especially if I max out my 180 days in Colombia.
I'll make sure to pack my shower head LOL.
While the rates per session / date are correct, you inflated the number of sessions they do daily. A legit college girl won't fuck 2-3 guys daily, you know why? Because she is in fucking college, and doesn't have time for multiple sessions. Plus, she doesn't do it for living unlike the hoes you are fucking. Most girls have time to meet once or twice a week. Those girls who also have normal jobs, full time or part time, can meet once or twice per month. You got to redo your math, genius. I have said this before, there are thousands, if not tens of thousands, college girls in MDE alone. Some are available for p4 p, others are not. I never said it is easy to find the ones who are, but they are out there, it takes time and effort to find them. Also, there is a large category of women who have real jobs, but are open to p4 p because the pay is low. There are girls who are opposed to p4 p, but are open to meet and date the right gringo. Sure, they are not easy to find and score, but they do exist.
Speaking of selling pussy to pay for college. I admire the women who do whatever it takes to get education and get a better life after. If she just needs some extra money, that's fine too.
What are you doing on ISG though? I thought you had a GF. Killing time while waiting for your truck to get loaded / unloaded? Or while taking a shit at Flying J truck stop? You think you are a Medellin guru and everybody needs your "valuable" advice? LOL.So you missed the point entirely? No surprise there. Just like your "legit college girl", the lleras hoes usually aren't doing 5 customers per week. More like 5 per month.
Very few "hoes" are doing p4 p "for a living. " Most don't understand the concept. Doing it for a living involves keeping a schedule, working regularly, finding ways to advance in the trade. The frequency which guys report girls who show up late, or don't show at all should tip you off that hoes aren't doing it for a living. Then there are the ones asking outrageous prices, unwilling to negotiate. Doing it for a living means setting daily income goals and reaching them. Holding firm on $300 USD means going home broke. Dropping to 500 k, and providing excellent service means going home with 500 k, and possibly getting a regular customer plus referrals.
What am I doing on ISG? Well yesterday I was waiting for a flight to meet my GF at an undisclosed US location. This morning it's because jet lag has me awake much too early, and she's still sleeping. Estamos contento. It has already been a great weekend. Nothing like a sweet girl, on her knees en la ducha, giving a BBBJ with full eye contact to brighten one's day.
Has that been your complaint all along? You don't like that I've given advice and received thanks for the advice? I don't give much anymore, since I'm out of the market. Mostly I just point out the stupid shit, or at least the stuff I have time for.
While the rates per session / date are correct, you inflated the number of sessions they do daily. A legit college girl won't fuck 2-3 guys daily, you know why? Because she is in fucking college, and doesn't have time for multiple sessions. Plus, she doesn't do it for living unlike the hoes you are fucking. Most girls have time to meet once or twice a week. Those girls who also have normal jobs, full time or part time, can meet once or twice per month. You got to redo your math, genius. I have said this before, there are thousands, if not tens of thousands, college girls in MDE alone. Some are available for p4 p, others are not. I never said it is easy to find the ones who are, but they are out there, it takes time and effort to find them. Also, there is a large category of women who have real jobs, but are open to p4 p because the pay is low. There are girls who are opposed to p4 p, but are open to meet and date the right gringo. Sure, they are not easy to find and score, but they do exist.
Speaking of selling pussy to pay for college. I admire the women who do whatever it takes to get education and get a better life after. If she just needs some extra money, that's fine too.
What are you doing on ISG though? I thought you had a GF. Killing time while waiting for your truck to get loaded / unloaded? Or while taking a shit at Flying J truck stop? You think you are a Medellin guru and everybody needs your "valuable" advice? LOL.It's very rare for me to say this, but I agree with everything MiamiBoy says. Most of these girls in college and with real jobs don't have time to screw multiple guys per day and / or don't want to. Most of these girls just want to supplement their income and are open to meeting gringos for the right price if they feel safe with you.
Nowadays, I think all the men fuck bareback in Colombia. I do only bareback and all the girls on facebook are OK to fuck with me without condom. Only few of them ask me more money. Same for the botero girls, usually they asK 50 000 pesos + 50 000 for BBFS. Even the pornstars in Colobia accept without any hesitation but are mucho more expensive.
Today, nobody use condoms in Colombia. It's over!Crazy and Irresponsible.
This is how STIs spread.
DoomBringer321
09-30-23, 16:40
Speaking of selling pussy to pay for college. I admire the women who do whatever it takes to get education and get a better life after. If she just needs some extra money, that's fine too.
What are you doing on ISG though? I thought you had a GF. Killing time while waiting for your truck to get loaded / unloaded? Or while taking a shit at Flying J truck stop? You think you are a Medellin guru and everybody needs your "valuable" advice? LOL.This is part of the problem I always keep hearing how men want some traditionality because Western women are A be or see but here is the thing, no MAN on the face of planet Earth has ever said listen she has a Ph. The. OMG, I am getting an erection and want to fuck her brains out, if women get an education in order to better themselves it's because they want to better themselves not better themselves for a MAN, you see she wants to get an education so she does not have to put up with guys asking them for a blow job for x amount of money, on a personal note this type of "college" women I tend to avoid because they might look good but they are far from feminine or submissive, the problem is that a lot of men with a western mindset have bought into the whole "female empowerment" vibe and then I see them crying in MIA my hometown on how their Colombian girlfriend has cheated on them or are leaving because they are not "happy" it is not that they are not happy it's that in their view her hypergamous nature tells them she has exceeded you and there is "something better" out there for her, the best advice is to fuck them leave them and always remember relationships are a transaction when you think it's is not you are setting up yourself for disappointment.
Crazy and Irresponsible.
This is how STIs spread.Why is it crazy irresponsible? If both parties understand the risk involved and consent to do it without a condom then that is their decision to make and their right to do so. If you're not willing to take the risk then by all means use a condom, but what right do you have to tell 2 other consenting adults that they have to use a condom??
Its the same just like with Covid, if you want to get vaccinated by all means get vaccinated, get the booster shot, get the bivalent shot, etc. But what right do you have to tell someone else that they have to get vaccinated if they don't want to?
DoomBringer321
10-01-23, 03:27
Crazy and Irresponsible.
This is how STIs spread.I have always heard that men are supposed to do XYZ the problem is first it takes 2 to tango, second for those that have the capacity to understand biology which gender in the animal kingdom has ALWAYS selected the males in order to propagate the new species, anyone? Whether it is a monkey, lion, zebra, or human women almost always pick the best mates and it is usually the top of the most "alpha" males the rituals to achieve this including in the human species vary like animals we are slaves to our nature we have the capacity to not be slaves to our nature but that is rare in the animal kingdoms and there are consequences, as we see in the west with the 1457 genders and counting, the burden of responsibility always falls on the gender who pays the most consequences for said actions, in the case of the maximum biological consequence of sex ie. Child rearing and unwanted pregnancies and STIs, that does not make men less responsible but I as a pimp player extraordinaire that I am, who run my own contacts and stable of women who I hook up with foreigners, I have hear far too many stories of guys who come in responsible (putting a condom on) and a girl playing with the head on the clit and semi penetrating, and they loose the barriers sometimes slightly sometimes blatantly and that is not even counting the fact that I know girls who have popped condoms on purpose.
Moral of the story players keep this is like boxing your guard must be up at all times.
It's very rare for me to say this, but I agree with everything MiamiBoy says. Most of these girls in college and with real jobs don't have time to screw multiple guys per day and / or don't want to. Most of these girls just want to supplement their income and are open to meeting gringos for the right price if they feel safe with you.Most of the girls in college and with real jobs don't supplement their income by fucking strangers. However, many of the girls who willingly fuck strangers for money will happily tell you they are in college or have a regular job, if it gets them more money.
Why is it crazy irresponsible? If both parties understand the risk involved and consent to do it without a condom then that is their decision to make and their right to do so. If you're not willing to take the risk then by all means use a condom, but what right do you have to tell 2 other consenting adults that they have to use a condom??
Its the same just like with Covid, if you want to get vaccinated by all means get vaccinated, get the booster shot, get the bivalent shot, etc. But what right do you have to tell someone else that they have to get vaccinated if they don't want to?Covid is completely different. There is only so much you can do to prevent infection but with STDs you have almost full control. HIV OTOH is an incurable, life-long condition you can never get rid of. Now if two people agree to not use condoms it is of course their legal right to do so but IMHO it's still irresponsible. We will have to agree to disagree on this matter.
Using protection is a simple habit and with a bit of routine it doesn't even bother you much. I for one feel so much better using rubber because I protect both her and me at the same time.
YMMV.
I have always heard that men are supposed to do XYZ the problem is first it takes 2 to tango, second for those that have the capacity to understand biology which gender in the animal kingdom has ALWAYS selected the males in order to propagate the new species, anyone? What does the power women have over the mating process have to do with a decision you take _after_ having been granted mating rights? How many women will reject a man because he dons protection?
Daniel Quintero just resigned as the mayor of Medellin. Maybe now those stupid vayas around plaza botero will finally be taken down.
Good fucking riddance to the corrupt asshole.
I hoping Fico wins the election on the 29th.
Elvis 2008
10-01-23, 18:02
Very few "hoes" are doing p4 p "for a living. " Most don't understand the concept. Doing it for a living involves keeping a schedule, working regularly, finding ways to advance in the trade. The frequency which guys report girls who show up late, or don't show at all should tip you off that hoes aren't doing it for a living.
Most of the girls in college and with real jobs don't supplement their income by fucking strangers. However, many of the girls who willingly fuck strangers for money will happily tell you they are in college or have a regular job, if it gets them more money.I wonder which is true: either you know every hooker and college student in Medellin or you are totally full of shit. Well, actually, I don't wonder.
Also, you and your crew "knew" every woman on seeking / SA and the motivation of all of the women on there even without every using the site.
Well yesterday I was waiting for a flight to meet my GF at an undisclosed US location. This morning it's because jet lag has me awake much too early, and she's still sleeping. Estamos contento. It has already been a great weekend. Nothing like a sweet girl, on her knees en la ducha, giving a BBBJ with full eye contact to brighten one's day.You met her on Facebook, pay for everything, have sex with her, so why is she is a GF and not a hooker?
Oh right, she is with you. Other guys have hookers; you have GFs.
Elvis 2008
10-01-23, 18:21
Why is it crazy irresponsible? If both parties understand the risk involved and consent to do it without a condom then that is their decision to make and their right to do so. If you're not willing to take the risk then by all means use a condom, but what right do you have to tell 2 other consenting adults that they have to use a condom??
Its the same just like with Covid, if you want to get vaccinated by all means get vaccinated, get the booster shot, get the bivalent shot, etc. But what right do you have to tell someone else that they have to get vaccinated if they don't want to?This is Fauci's follies. You'd think that after all the bullshit with Covid and masks, people would just stop with this disease prevention crap. With masks, Fauci said they don't work then they absolutely worked and his latest gaffe was they don't work all the time but do in some cases.
And Fauci was the fucker who fueled the whole fueled the whole AIDS / safe sex insanity in the late 80's and early 90's.
Condoms and STDs are like Covid and masks. You can find whatever result you want, and arguing is futile. Only thing everyone agrees on is that condoms are good for preventing pregnancy.
The college girl trope is so persistent an urban legend that I have known weekend warrior guys who sacrifice days of their precious vacation time hanging around areas near universities in the hopes of meeting them.
Most of the girls in college and with real jobs don't supplement their income by fucking strangers. However, many of the girls who willingly fuck strangers for money will happily tell you they are in college or have a regular job, if it gets them more money.
The presence of mexicans has clearly elevated the estrato of your barrio.Actually I just found out that the expensive rate of 792 pesos per kWh was only charged because it was towards the end of the month. Apparently when you buy your electricity at the beginning of the month epm gives you a subsidy so you're basically getting a bunch of electricity for free. I just bought a recarga for $16 k COP and they gave me over 100 KWh.
So you just have to wait til the 1st of the month to get a much better price on the electricity. I think I might go back and put another 20 mil on it just for shits and giggle lmao.
DoomBringer321
10-01-23, 23:13
What does the power women have over the mating process have to do with a decision you take _after_ having been granted mating rights? How many women will reject a man because he dons protection?That is the point women historically and biologically have had to pay the burden of unintended consequences, men are dogs we do not have to behave like them but let's keep it real male behavior is nothing if not predictable, men should be responsible for their seed or STI but when the moment comes historically one gender has always had more responsibilities in such matters than another and it shows just how much women have changed over their grandmothers since the 7 decades and counting of feminism.
Women in modern times do not give a fuck about their bodies they live life on easy mode and that is the point that I stress over and over to people that quite frankly have limited sexual options back home, yet behave like kids in a candy store when in LA, Asia, Eastern Europe, or wherever they don't know the game and then when some unintended consequences occur it turns out all women are XYZ that was not the tune that men are singing when that pipe was being laid, women will not reject a man that is correct however they will manipulate a situation as much as possible so they get what they want and men that are not keen on the game do not realize it till it is usually too late.
Why is it crazy irresponsible? If both parties understand the risk involved and consent to do it without a condom then that is their decision to make and their right to do so. If you're not willing to take the risk then by all means use a condom, but what right do you have to tell 2 other consenting adults that they have to use a condom??
Its the same just like with Covid, if you want to get vaccinated by all means get vaccinated, get the booster shot, get the bivalent shot, etc. But what right do you have to tell someone else that they have to get vaccinated if they don't want to?Because in both instances, a person's selfish behavior is spreading a virus. In the former case of condoms, I can avoid diseased hookers. In the latter case of vaccines, I cannot avoid diseased assholes. That's why public health authorities have long been authorized to enforce vaccine requirements, and why legal precedent consistently reports this. So one right to tell you that you need to get vaccinated stems directly from rule of law. Jacobson vs. Massachusetts went to the SCOTUS in 1905. Ever hear of smallpox?
Now if you want to overturn a Supreme Court Decision, you know what to do, right? You merely need to get 38 of the 50 not so United States to agree to pass a constitutional amendment. Oh, but you can't do that because you're from México. No, you're not. You're first language is English.
Only thing everyone agrees on is that condoms are good for preventing pregnancy.Yeah, just not as good as ANY other modern method.
I wonder which is true: either you know every hooker and college student in Medellin or you are totally full of shit. Well, actually, I don't wonder.
Also, you and your crew "knew" every woman on seeking / SA and the motivation of all of the women on there even without every using the site.
You met her on Facebook, pay for everything, have sex with her, so why is she is a GF and not a hooker?
Oh right, she is with you. Other guys have hookers; you have GFs.Maybe he was just jerking off at a truck stop bathroom and fantasizing about a girl flying over from a foreign country just to give him a morning BJ in the shower?
And yeah, I'm wondering the same thing, how can he possibly know what college girls in Medellin do to supplement income and who they fuck? He has no fucking clue, but thinks he knows it all.
Most of the girls in college and with real jobs don't supplement their income by fucking strangers. However, many of the girls who willingly fuck strangers for money will happily tell you they are in college or have a regular job, if it gets them more money.Do you even realize that a stranger to a girl could be any person whom she has not met or heard of before? Once a girl meets a guy in person, they are no longer strangers. Whether they fuck on the first date, or 5th date, or a year later, is irrelevant. Do you also realize that nobody forces a girl to fuck someone she doesn't like? Do you understand that she can be very selective and only sleeps with someone she likes or trusts, someone who meets her personal standards? P4 p or not, doesn't matter. This is called consensual sex between two adults.
Also, how does the fact that she is in college or has a job, affect the allowance I'm willing to give? What it might affect is my desire to meet her again, if she is interesting enough. Or my desire to travel with her later on. And college girls or those with real jobs, are usually more interesting to me than an average brainless SW girl or some run through facebook girl that fucks guys for living.
Condoms and STDs are like Covid and masks. You can find whatever result you want, and arguing is futile. Only thing everyone agrees on is that condoms are good for preventing pregnancy.Not the case.
Properly used quality condoms _do_ protect from most STIs.
Because in both instances, a person's selfish behavior is spreading a virus. In the former case of condoms, I can avoid diseased hookers. In the latter case of vaccines, I cannot avoid diseased assholes. That's why public health authorities have long been authorized to enforce vaccine requirements, and why legal precedent consistently reports this. So one right to tell you that you need to get vaccinated stems directly from rule of law. Jacobson vs. Massachusetts went to the SCOTUS in 1905. Ever hear of smallpox?
Now if you want to overturn a Supreme Court Decision, you know what to do, right? You merely need to get 38 of the 50 not so United States to agree to pass a constitutional amendment. Oh, but you can't do that because you're from Mxico. No, you're not. You're first language is English.I am vaccinated you idiot. No one was talking about supreme court cases or constitutional amendments. All I was saying is it's my body it's my choice. If you want to use a condom or if you want to get vaccinated it is your choice to do so, the converse is also true, if you don't want to do either of those you don't have to, and no one can force the matter either way. If two parties agree to consent to unprotected sex they have the right to do so and no third party has the right to stop them and put a condom on the dudes dick.
Also we are not even in the United States or talking about laws in the United States, so why would US supreme court cases and US constitutional amendments apply to everyday life in Medellin??
Of course I have heard of small pox, again that has nothing to do with what was being discussed here. It seems you are just blabbing utter nonsense that doesn't mean anything, so please callese el hosico Seńor Huacho.
All I was saying is it's my body it's my choice.Unfortunately the Supreme Court of the United States has ruled that it's not. Never said you weren't vaccinated so maybe the idiot is the one with the poor reading comprehension.
Elvis 2008
10-02-23, 18:31
Not the case.
Properly used quality condoms _do_ protect from most STIs.https://www.guttmacher.org/journals/psrh/2001/09/nih-condom-report-glass-90-full
"Adequate data are available to conclude that consistent and correct condom use prevents unintended pregnancies, HIV infection and gonorrhea in men. ".
" Evidence that condom use prevents the other six STIs reviewed by the panel is insufficient, however. ".
http://liamscheff.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/padian-10-year-sex-study.pdf
The transmission rate from HIV + spouse to HIV. Spouse over a ten year period in this study was. Zero!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latex_allergy
"Estimates of latex sensitivity in the general population range from 0. 8% to 8. 2%,although not all will ever develop a noticeable allergic reaction.
Now I can find just as much if not more information on the other side for the benefits of condoms. Whether you are for or against condoms, there is information out there to support your POV.
I was hoping that after all this Covid prevention nonsense that absolutism with regards to disease prevention would end, but I guess not.
Not the case.
Properly used quality condoms _do_ protect from most STIs.I tried using a condom yesterday with a girl I found in the Veracruz church area just to test your hypothesis that "it doesn't even bother you that much. " And your hypothesis was wrong. It bothered me a lot.
The condom was so tight on my dick that it left a ring at the base of my penis where it was cutting off the circulation. It also felt very plasticy during the sex like I couldn't feel the vagina hardly at all, I could see that I was penetrating her but if I closed my eyes and went solely off of how it felt I could have been fucking the air and it would have felt like the same thing. No moisture, no warmth, no skin to skin friction, just uncomfortable tight elastic plastic bullshit. That may not bother you but for me, it bothers me alot.
Here's a picture of the condom that was used to test your hypothesis. And the other picture is the bag of them that I haven't used from all the girls I have barebacked in botero real LOL.
Would you like to buy them for 500 cop a piece? I must have at least 40 or 50 of them in this zip lock bag.
Gabacho.
I tried using a condom yesterday with a girl I found in the Veracruz church area just to test your hypothesis that "it doesn't even bother you that much. " And your hypothesis was wrong. It bothered me a lot.
The condom was so tight on my dick that it left a ring at the base of my penis where it was cutting off the circulation. It also felt very plasticy during the sex like I couldn't feel the vagina hardly at all, I could see that I was penetrating her but if I closed my eyes and went solely off of how it felt I could have been fucking the air and it would have felt like the same thing. No moisture, no warmth, no skin to skin friction, just uncomfortable tight elastic plastic bullshit. That may not bother you but for me, it bothers me alot.
Here's a picture of the condom that was used to test your hypothesis. And the other picture is the bag of them that I haven't used from all the girls I have barebacked in botero real LOL.
Would you like to buy them for 500 cop a piece? I must have at least 40 or 50 of them in this zip lock bag.
Gabacho.You made my day. Thanks for posting, pal.
I can totally understand your frustration with the experience.
My two cents: first you need to get stuff in the right size. Look for brands like "MySize". I don't want to advertise them, they are just one example of several brands. Heck, they even have a printable measure for download.
Once you got them: practice, practice, practice.
I had some chicks who were able to put them on while giving head. They were so good at it you hardly feelt it.
Anyway, thanks for your field experiment. Happy shagging everybody.
Unfortunately the Supreme Court of the United States has ruled that it's not. Never said you weren't vaccinated so maybe the idiot is the one with the poor reading comprehension.Again we are not in the United States and the United States supreme court had nothing to do with Colombia. You are a complete Moron, Huacho.
Again we are not in the United States and the United States supreme court had nothing to do with Colombia. You are a complete Moron, Huacho.Your generic statements about condoms and vaccines also have nothing to do with Colombia, or the Yew Ess, or Botswana etc. And even though you're un mexicano trucho, you'll find that the law is very similar there as far as refusing to cooperate with public health emergencies.
I had some chicks who were able to put them on while giving head. They were so good at it you hardly felt it.The first hooker I ever fucked in Argentina did that and did it facing away from me. But, I could tell pretty quick, personally But she wasn't that good of a fellatrix. Later others did it better. But the thing about this first one, it had nothing to do with safety, because she would fuck raw dog. She just didn't like the taste.
To be abundantly clear for those with poor reading skills, the difference between not using condoms and not getting vaccinated is that the latter can affect innocent bystanders while the former cannot. It's a pretty important distinction and the two require vastly different public health policies.
One thing I can always count on, If Elvis posts he's guaranteed to not have a clue what he's posting about.
I wonder which is true: either you know every hooker and college student in Medellin or you are totally full of shit. Well, actually, I don't wonder.Example 1:
Do I need to know every plumber in NYC to figure how much it's going to cost to replace the wax ring on a toilet? Of course the answer is "Elvis is clueless again (or still). ".
I know college girls in Medellin, and hoes too. I spent 10 months sharing an apartment with a college girl, who was not a hoe. Met several of her friends, who were college girls and not hoes. I've met several others over the years. I've discussed the concept with some of them. Most were vehemently opposed to prostitution, my roommate included, even though she was and still is a webcam model.
Here's an example. My roommate had a boyfriend, although she was single on webcam. Most webcam models list themselves as single, because it plays into the fantasy of the customers. She had gone to an industry convention and went to the party that one of the big porn sites threw. She got drunk and (according to her) made out with that company's South America liason (my opinion is she fucked him). When she got home she told me about and didn't know what to do, mainly because she enjoyed it.
He kept messaging her, trying to get a date, even came in her webcam and tipped big. Then he made the mistake of telling her he was married and wanted to support her. She got so pissed he wanted to treat her like a hoe she broke her phone.
On to the hoes. Quite a few I've known for 5 or 6 years. Several of them claimed to be college students. It appeared that 1 of them had worked briefly as a secretary at UPB, but that was before I met her. The rest? Cosmetology, Dental tech, Call center. All low paying jobs or training programs.
There are women with decent to good jobs, or who are college students who will sell pussy, either to supplement an income, or as a primary means of support. However, unlike Mami'sBoy's claim, it's not the majority.
Even a complete brainless fuckstain like you should be able to understand that one. I'll give you a clue, although you'll have no idea what to do with it. There are also male college students. If all the women have to sell pussy in college, I guess all the guys have to sell dick. Right?
Also, you and your crew "knew" every woman on seeking / SA and the motivation of all of the women on there even without every using the site.My crew? You've been babbling incoherently about "my crew" for a couple of years now. Granted, babbling incoherently is the only thing you do consistently. However, I have no idea who this crew is. I know many guys who either live in Colombia, or spend a lot of time there, but I can't think of any who actually know more than 2 other people who I know. I don't hang out with any of them, although I do stop in and say Hello, to a few, from time to time.
You met her on Facebook, pay for everything, have sex with her, so why is she is a GF and not a hooker?
Oh right, she is with you. Other guys have hookers; you have GFs.See? Consistently babbling incoherently. I didn't meet her on Facebook. Although she has a Facebook, as well as an Instagram account, she never posts on either. Her social media activity is limited to liking posts from a small group of friends and family. I covered all of that 3 years ago, and a few more times since then.
I don't pay for everything either. When we travel together, sure I pay. It's (IMO) part of being a man. Of course, someone who claims a man has to deserve to be with a woman wouldn't understand. When we go to dinner, I pick up the tab. For the most part she supports herself. See how often you babble incoherently? You've gone on and on about me being penniless, and now apparently, I'm rolling in dough.
Maybe he was just jerking off at a truck stop bathroom and fantasizing about a girl flying over from a foreign country just to give him a morning BJ in the shower?
And yeah, I'm wondering the same thing, how can he possibly know what college girls in Medellin do to supplement income and who they fuck? He has no fucking clue, but thinks he knows it all.It's bizarre how many guys on ISG fantasize about me masturbating. Even throwing in specific details like "in a truck stop bathroom. ".
She didn't "just fly over" to give me a BJ. It's just 1 of the benefits. Again, it's bizarre that me getting a BJ somehow hurts your feelings.
I don't think I know it all. I do know some college girls (covered elsewhere). I have had discussions with some of them about the subject. Not because I was trying to pay them for sex, but to get their impressions on prostitution. It's outside of your area of expertise. First, it requires the ability to interact with them in Spanish. Second, it requires the ability to talk to a woman without paying her for sex.
It's quite interesting, especially when some of them are webcam models. Most, at least most of the girls who turn webcam into a career (as opposed to those who work in webcam for a few months and then quit), don't see getting paid by guys watching them masturbate on cam as anything like prostitution (or like porn, where they fuck whatever guy is cast). The good ones treat it like they're hanging out with friends (naked and masturbating).
I don't know what every college girl in Medellin does to supplement their income. However, I can look up tuition costs, along with student demographics, add that to the attitudes of the college girls I know and quickly determine that most college students aren't fucking gringos to pay the bills. Or I could just take my experience on a Medellin college campus (EAFIT), where they have both male and female students. You finding a lot of college guys on Seeking too?
I can also compare notes from all of the webcam models and hookers who claimed to be college students, but weren't. It's a common fantasy. I haven't looked at the Colombian escort sites in years, but I do remember there were a lot of "college students" there, a disproportionate number. As I said, it's a common fantasy. Why not capitalize on it? After all, there are a lot of clueless gringos.
Do you even realize that a stranger to a girl could be any person whom she has not met or heard of before? Once a girl meets a guy in person, they are no longer strangers. Whether they fuck on the first date, or 5th date, or a year later, is irrelevant. Do you also realize that nobody forces a girl to fuck someone she doesn't like? Do you understand that she can be very selective and only sleeps with someone she likes or trusts, someone who meets her personal standards? P4 p or not, doesn't matter. This is called consensual sex between two adults.
Also, how does the fact that she is in college or has a job, affect the allowance I'm willing to give? What it might affect is my desire to meet her again, if she is interesting enough. Or my desire to travel with her later on. And college girls or those with real jobs, are usually more interesting to me than an average brainless SW girl or some run through facebook girl that fucks guys for living.Wow. That's an incredible amount of stupid in just 2 paragraphs.
A stranger is a person a girl doesn't know. You might have skipped some of the embarrassment if you had stopped there. Sadly, when it comes to ridiculous shit, you're a densely populated city with a contaminated water supply. In other words, the shit is endless.
Girls see hundreds of guys every day who are still strangers. They pass them on the street, stand next to them on the Metro, ride in their taxi. It's crazy that you think just because a woman has laid eyes on a man he's no longer a stranger. Or if she's heard of him? Did you really type that, or did the idiocy fairy take over for you?
And just because she's met a guy doesn't mean he's no longer a stranger. Anyone who has ever talked to a woman knows that. Most of my single, female Facebook friends complain about that constantly. They'll meet a guy briefly and next thing the guy's hitting them up.
Actually, especially in more conservative countries, like Colombia, whether a girl fucks on the first date or fifth date is relevant, especially when you're paying her to fuck. Not many guys are going to pat a girl to not fuck for 4 dates, or however many it takes, before paying her to fuck. Unless she's a hoe:
1. She's almost certainly not fucking you on the first date. Chances are, the first date will be chaperoned by friends or relatives.
2. She's not asking guys to pay her for sex. Nor is she open to the possibility of you paying her for sex. If she feels that you are actually a couple, she may be willing to accept help with her bills, but that's well beyond the fifth date (unless she's a hoe).
Nobody forces a girl to fuck a guy she doesn't like? Honestly? It's like you just wrote the stupidest thing ever, said to yourself "nobody could be stupider than that" then said "hold my beer. ".
You've never heard of rape? Once again, if you had ever had a conversation with a woman (and she trusted you, and you weren't paying her for sex) you would almost certainly have heard about attempted rapes, friends who were raped, friends who were drugged by guys trying to rape them, or actual rapes.
No, rape aside, it is not called "consensual sex between adults" if 1 person is paying the other for sex. That's called prostitution. While the prostitutes can be selective on which customers they fuck, it's not "consensual sex. " There's an easy way to test this. Agree to pay a woman for sex. After the sex, refuse to pay her.
Most women (who are not prostitutes) don't sleep with guys because they like or trust them. There is an age bracket between around 35-45 where it's more likely, but outside of that, if they aren't prostitutes, they want something more, some type of connection or relationship, or at least the belief that it's heading in that direction.
Even if they did, a complete stranger asking to meet to determine whether he wants to pay her for sex, is not going to build trust, unless she's a prostitute.
You have stated repeatedly that you are seeking women who are in college or have jobs. You've also stated several times that you have to outbid the other guys to get their attention. So who says those things affect the allowance you're willing to give? Well, I hate to be the one to break it to you, but you do.
SW's? Run through Facebook girls? There you go again. It's as if you're not only a complete idiot, but that you insist on declaring the fact every fucking time. The last time I did a SW was probably 1989. Haven't done a Facebook girl for 3 or 4 years. Why would I? I've got literally thousands of contacts now, but I don't even bother with most of them. The 3 that I do now are my GF, a college girl and a business owner. I did pay the business owner for sex the first time. Covid shutdown had wiped out that business. I've never paid the other 2 for sex, although, I've spent money on all 3.
The GF took persistence and patience, combined with a certain skill I have. The same skill was crucial to landing the college girl, who has a fetish which I'm able to help her with. The business owner likes me and trusts me. Just wrote about her several weeks ago. She's the one who wanted a 3 some with her best friend.
I look forward to your next attempt to prove just how little you know.
Do you also realize that nobody forces a girl to fuck someone she doesn't like? Do you understand that she can be very selective and only sleeps with someone she likes or trusts, someone who meets her personal standards? P4 p or not, doesn't matter. This is called consensual sex between two adults.This gem needs it's own reply. Actually it needs it's own thread. The opposite of links to posts of distinction.
You might not be old enough to remember this, and even if you are, you've shown repeatedly that you're incapable of remembering anything.
In 1992 one of the Kennedy cousins, William Kennedy Smith, was charged with rape. If I remember correctly, he was acquitted. He had gone on a date with a woman, I believe he hot her drunk and then fucked her. Apparently, the girl had no intention of having sex with him, but the alcohol had lowered her resistance.
The case was 1 of the first high profile cases for "date rape. " The defense claimed that her consensual actions showed willingness to fuck. The prosecution held fucking was beyond her level of consent and he had removed her ability to consent.
I bring this up because at the time I found myself in a similar situation.
My best friend had invited a guy who worked for him, and his girlfriend for dinner. He almost certainly intended to get everyone drunk and passed out so he could fuck her. He also invited me, to help get everyone shitfaced.
It didn't quite work out that way. Everyone got drunk and passed out, but she had no interest in him. That part was shocking, because he was a legend at getting girls to fuck. No scruples. He would introduce them to his wife, they'd become friends and every time the wife got drunk, he'd be in the next room fucking.
Once he figured out she wasn't going to fuck him and I wasn't going to pass out he went to bed. The next thing I know she's naked and all over me. She wanted to fuck, right then and there. However, all I can think of is the fact that she was drunk and the William Kennedy Smith case. What was going to happen when she sobered up? Fortunately, I was able to get her panties and a flannel shirt on her before she laid down on the couch, leaving me to sleep on the loveseat. Her boyfriend caused a scene in the morning, but she turned it around on him.
I put her off for 5 days before we started fucking, just to make sure.
There are many levels of consent. Of course, the goal is to overcome the objections and get the consent. However, if a girl is drugged or passed out, even if she wanted to consent, she can't.
the difference between not using condoms and not getting vaccinated is that the latter can affect innocent bystanders while the former cannot. It's a pretty important distinction and the two require vastly different public health policies.Latest studies show that the transmission rate from the so-called vaccinated is higher than the non-vaxd, so I agree it can be dangerous to follow financially motivated and corrupt public health advice. If one understands the risks of refusing condom-use, its not irresponsoble to not use them. Its just a sign that one doesn't believe ant safety benefit exceeds the loss of pleasure. Thats how it was in the 60's, 70's, 80's, part of the 90's.
The first hooker I ever fucked in Argentina did that and did it facing away from me. But, I could tell pretty quick, personally But she wasn't that good of a fellatrix. Later others did it better. But the thing about this first one, it had nothing to do with safety, because she would fuck raw dog. She just didn't like the taste.
To be abundantly clear for those with poor reading skills, the difference between not using condoms and not getting vaccinated is that the latter can affect innocent bystanders while the former cannot. It's a pretty important distinction and the two require vastly different public health policies.Its the same shit you jack ass! Your body your choice! Now stop trying to have the last word, you're not impressing anyone with your stupidity.
Latest studies show that the transmission rate from the so-called vaccinated is higher than the non-vaxd, so I agree it can be dangerous to follow financially motivated and corrupt public health advice. If one understands the risks of refusing condom-use, its not irresponsoble to not use them. Its just a sign that one doesn't believe ant safety benefit exceeds the loss of pleasure. Thats how it was in the 60's, 70's, 80's, part of the 90's.I totally agree 100% with you in respect to condom use, in fact you hit the nail on the head. The safety or protection that a condom provides does not make up for the loss of pleasure that it causes. It's not that I am being irresponsible by not using a condom, it is that for me it there is no value in using a condom. Now that being said there are other ways to protect against STIs. I like to use azythromycin once a week or once every 2 weeks this helps to keep any bacterial STIs (gonorrhea, syphilis, chlamydia, etc.) from presenting. In the case of viral STDs you have prep medications (Truvada, Biktarvy, Duvato, etc.) although those are much more expensive. However statistically speaking HIV passing from an unprotected heterosexual sex act (even if the female is infected and the male isn't) is extremely rare, it is much more likely you will contract gonorrhea or chlamydia or perhaps herpes than HIV. I believe on Wikipedia there is a chart that shows the actual percentages from actual studies that were done. Let me see if I can find it.
I found it and attached the screen shot. So as you can see HIV you have less than 1% chance of getting that from unprotected hetero sex, and that is if the woman is infected, if she's not then obviously the risk is 0% the most common things according to this chart are gonorrhea chlamydia and HPV. The first two of those are cured by azythromycin and HPV there is a vaccine called gardasil for that. So for me the risk of not using a condom doesn't outweigh the pleasure lost by using one. Capische?
Elvis 2008
10-03-23, 19:56
Do I need to know every plumber in NYC to figure how much it's going to cost to replace the wax ring on a toilet? Of course the answer is "Elvis is clueless again (or still). "I can go onto a website and see the cost of a plumber repair. Where do I go to found out what % of college women are selling themselves? JJBeeisfullofshit.com?
I didn't meet her on Facebook. I covered all of that 3 years ago, and a few more times since then.
I don't pay for everything either. When we travel together, sure I pay. It's (IMO) part of being a man."Prostitution" is a crime where the individual accepts money or something of value in exchange for the expectation of having sex. You see, there is nothing in there about where you meet or if she pays for some of her stuff. Your definition of "being a man" meets the legal definition of being a john in spite of your desperate pleas to say otherwise.
And why is that? Why are you so desperate to say you are not paying for sex on a hooker forum?
This gem needs it's own reply. Actually it needs it's own thread. The opposite of links to posts of distinction.
You might not be old enough to remember this, and even if you are, you've shown repeatedly that you're incapable of remembering anything.
In 1992 one of the Kennedy cousins, William Kennedy Smith, was charged with rape. If I remember correctly, he was acquitted. He had gone on a date with a woman, I believe he hot her drunk and then fucked her. Apparently, the girl had no intention of having sex with him, but the alcohol had lowered her resistance.
The case was 1 of the first high profile cases for "date rape. " The defense claimed that her consensual actions showed willingness to fuck. The prosecution held fucking was beyond her level of consent and he had removed her ability to consent.
I bring this up because at the time I found myself in a similar situation.
My best friend had invited a guy who worked for him, and his girlfriend for dinner. He almost certainly intended to get everyone drunk and passed out so he could fuck her. He also invited me, to help get everyone shitfaced.
It didn't quite work out that way. Everyone got drunk and passed out, but she had no interest in him. That part was shocking, because he was a legend at getting girls to fuck. No scruples. He would introduce them to his wife, they'd become friends and every time the wife got drunk, he'd be in the next room fucking.
Once he figured out she wasn't going to fuck him and I wasn't going to pass out he went to bed. The next thing I know she's naked and all over me. She wanted to fuck, right then and there. However, all I can think of is the fact that she was drunk and the William Kennedy Smith case. What was going to happen when she sobered up? Fortunately, I was able to get her panties and a flannel shirt on her before she laid down on the couch, leaving me to sleep on the loveseat. Her boyfriend caused a scene in the morning, but she turned it around on him.
I put her off for 5 days before we started fucking, just to make sure.
There are many levels of consent. Of course, the goal is to overcome the objections and get the consent. However, if a girl is drugged or passed out, even if she wanted to consent, she can't.I expected to get another stupid reply from you, but today you exceeded my expectations and posted 3 of them! Wow!
Prostitution IS consensual, do you know why? Because the man or woman must consent to have sex with you. Any hooker is free to decline service at any point. Maybe she finds you dangerous, obnoxious, unclean, etc. She is not a sex slave, and the fact that you pay her or not, doesn't obligate her to have sex with you. She has the right to return you the money and not provide any service. If there is no consent, then the sexual act is considered rape.
Why did you bring up the Kennedy case? The dude was not found guilty. It is obvious that if a woman is intentionally being drugged, she can't give her consent, and therefore, fucking a drugged woman might be considered rape if charges are pressed. Why are we even discussing this? Do mongers travel to a foreign country, where sex is cheap, and drug and rape women? Seriously? Again, you argue just for the sake of arguing, bringing up some weird exceptions. "There are many levels of consent" - wtf are you talking about? If one is of legal age, and is mentally capable of giving consent, it is either yes or no. Simple as that. But you, dumbass, are so dumb to understand this simple concept.
You have a very "unique" skill. You can find a pile of shit literally everywhere, on a fucking pool table, dive right into it and drown. Hilarious! LOL.
Wow. That's an incredible amount of stupid in just 2 paragraphs.
A stranger is a person a girl doesn't know. You might have skipped some of the embarrassment if you had stopped there. Sadly, when it comes to ridiculous shit, you're a densely populated city with a contaminated water supply. In other words, the shit is endless.
Girls see hundreds of guys every day who are still strangers. They pass them on the street, stand next to them on the Metro, ride in their taxi. It's crazy that you think just because a woman has laid eyes on a man he's no longer a stranger. Or if she's heard of him? Did you really type that, or did the idiocy fairy take over for you?
And just because she's met a guy doesn't mean he's no longer a stranger. Anyone who has ever talked to a woman knows that. Most of my single, female Facebook friends complain about that constantly. They'll meet a guy briefly and next thing the guy's hitting them up.
Actually, especially in more conservative countries, like Colombia, whether a girl fucks on the first date or fifth date is relevant, especially when you're paying her to fuck. Not many guys are going to pat a girl to not fuck for 4 dates, or however many it takes, before paying her to fuck. Unless she's a hoe:
1. She's almost certainly not fucking you on the first date. Chances are, the first date will be chaperoned by friends or relatives.
2. She's not asking guys to pay her for sex. Nor is she open to the possibility of you paying her for sex. If she feels that you are actually a couple, she may be willing to accept help with her bills, but that's well beyond the fifth date (unless she's a hoe).
Nobody forces a girl to fuck a guy she doesn't like? Honestly? It's like you just wrote the stupidest thing ever, said to yourself "nobody could be stupider than that" then said "hold my beer. ".
You've never heard of rape? Once again, if you had ever had a conversation with a woman (and she trusted you, and you weren't paying her for sex) you would almost certainly have heard about attempted rapes, friends who were raped, friends who were drugged by guys trying to rape them, or actual rapes.
No, rape aside, it is not called "consensual sex between adults" if 1 person is paying the other for sex. That's called prostitution. While the prostitutes can be selective on which customers they fuck, it's not "consensual sex. " There's an easy way to test this. Agree to pay a woman for sex. After the sex, refuse to pay her.
Most women (who are not prostitutes) don't sleep with guys because they like or trust them. There is an age bracket between around 35-45 where it's more likely, but outside of that, if they aren't prostitutes, they want something more, some type of connection or relationship, or at least the belief that it's heading in that direction.
Even if they did, a complete stranger asking to meet to determine whether he wants to pay her for sex, is not going to build trust, unless she's a prostitute.
You have stated repeatedly that you are seeking women who are in college or have jobs. You've also stated several times that you have to outbid the other guys to get their attention. So who says those things affect the allowance you're willing to give? Well, I hate to be the one to break it to you, but you do.
SW's? Run through Facebook girls? There you go again. It's as if you're not only a complete idiot, but that you insist on declaring the fact every fucking time. The last time I did a SW was probably 1989. Haven't done a Facebook girl for 3 or 4 years. Why would I? I've got literally thousands of contacts now, but I don't even bother with most of them. The 3 that I do now are my GF, a college girl and a business owner. I did pay the business owner for sex the first time. Covid shutdown had wiped out that business. I've never paid the other 2 for sex, although, I've spent money on all 3.
The GF took persistence and patience, combined with a certain skill I have. The same skill was crucial to landing the college girl, who has a fetish which I'm able to help her with. The business owner likes me and trusts me. Just wrote about her several weeks ago. She's the one who wanted a 3 some with her best friend.
I look forward to your next attempt to prove just how little you know.How can you be so stupid? LOL. I said if she never met him in person or never heard of him. Do you consider riding a train full of strangers "meeting them in person?" Do you consider passing strangers on the street "meeting them in person"? Meeting in person, in the dating / mongering context, is going on a date with a purpose to get to know each other, spend some time together, have fun, and maybe have consensual sex after. Or getting introduced to someone by mutual friends or family, for example at a birthday party. Once they are introduced, they are no longer strangers. Once they meet for a date, even if it is just a simple coffee, they are no longer strangers. How long it will take to get laid depends on the chemistry and / or the agreed upon amount of money (sex has to be consensual, dumbass, p4 p or not). There is plenty of girls who would fuck on the first date without pay. There is no rule or law anywhere in the world that says sex has to happen no sooner than X days from initial meetup. You never fucked a girl in the club without even asking her name? Poor you.
And yes, idiot, nobody forces a girl to fuck a guy she doesn't like. You again brought this rape topic up, which has nothing to do with consensual sex between two adults. If it is rape, there is no consent.
"Most women (who are not prostitutes) don't sleep with guys because they like or trust them. There is an age bracket between around 35-45 where it's more likely, but outside of that, if they aren't prostitutes, they want something more, some type of connection or relationship, or at least the belief that it's heading in that direction. " - WTF is this BS? By this logic, your GF is a prostitute. Some type of connection or relationship between you and her is your fantasy. Most likely, she is either after a green card, or paid trips to the US, or some other benefit that she gets or will get, by sucking your old dick.
Speaking of Seeking college girls, or Tinder girls, or any other girls online. It is a numbers game, you are competing with other dudes, and the allowance that I'm willing to give doesn't depend on college degree or some normal job she has. I'm willing to give only what I'm comfortable giving. If other dudes are willing to give more, the chances of scoring are not in my favor, unless I bring something else to the table, which is not easy to do online.
Does your GF know about the other 2 you are screwing? LOL. A business owner (apparently, not so successful businesswoman that had zero savings to go through the tough times and turned into a hooker once her business got shut down?) Special skill? Do you eat a pussy so well that nobody can resist?
Mr Enternational
10-03-23, 23:13
Prostitution IS consensual, do you know why? Because the man or woman must consent to have sex with you. Any hooker is free to decline service at any point.Really? It is always consenual?
She is not a sex slave, and the fact that you pay her or not, doesn't obligate her to have sex with you.How do you know? So no people are forced into prostitution or held as sex slaves?
She has the right to return you the money and not provide any service. If there is no consent, then the sexual act is considered rape.What is it considered if she does not return the money and does not provide any service?
Why did you bring up the Kennedy case? The dude was not found guilty. It is obvious that if a woman is intentionally being drugged, she can't give her consent,I think his reasoning was in your quote that he posted.
Do you also realize that nobody forces a girl to fuck someone she doesn't like?.
So is it that nobody can force a girl to fuck someone she does not like or is it obvious that sometimes women do not give consent but are fucked anyway?
It's bizarre how many guys on ISG fantasize about me masturbating. Even throwing in specific details like "in a truck stop bathroom. "Some of those truck stop bathrooms are pretty nice though. There's even some Pilots and Flying J's out in Wyoming that have private showers inside the bathrooms. I saw one in Iowa one time that even had a buffet restaurant called iron skillet inside of the the truck stop! Sounds as good a place as any to masturbate, then get a nice ribeye steak afterwards.
Elvis 2008
10-04-23, 03:36
SW's? Run through Facebook girls? There you go again. It's as if you're not only a complete idiot, but that you insist on declaring the fact every fucking time. The last time I did a SW was probably 1989. Haven't done a Facebook girl for 3 or 4 years. Why would I? I've got literally thousands of contacts now, but I don't even bother with most of them. The 3 that I do now are my GF, a college girl and a business owner. I did pay the business owner for sex the first time. Covid shutdown had wiped out that business. I've never paid the other 2 for sex, although, I've spent money on all 3.
The GF took persistence and patience, combined with a certain skill I have. The same skill was crucial to landing the college girl, who has a fetish which I'm able to help her with. The business owner likes me and trusts me. Just wrote about her several weeks ago. She's the one who wanted a 3 some with her best friend.
LOL. Apparently, we need to do a different cute-rich matrix for you where the whole graph is filled in because all the women want you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pInk1rV2VEg.
I have spent money on them but have not paid them for sex? Say what?
Truth is if if these women really cared about you they would not want you seeing other women. When a woman says she does not care if you are fucking other women, it means she does not care about you.
And if you are fucking multiple women, it just means that you have not found one good or trust worthy enough to commit to.
Does your GF know about the other 2 you are screwing? LOL. A business owner (apparently, not so successful businesswoman that had zero savings to go through the tough times and turned into a hooker once her business got shut down?) Special skill? Do you eat a pussy so well that nobody can resist?MB, if you look at the female version of the hot-crazy matrix, the cute-money matrix, what the guy is saying, and I agree with, is that women do not take men seriously, I. E. Are husband material, if they do not have money. If you are attractive and poor, the women will play with you (AKA the fun zone), but they won't take you seriously.
As far as what a hooker is versus a "regular" woman is not that she fucks for money. That is all women. The difference between a GF / wife and a hooker is there is a relationship beyond sex for money, and the GF / wife only has one man she is servicing. For me, a sugar baby is in the middle. There is a relationship beyond sex for money but sex for money is still there, and a sugar baby will not just fuck any guy for money. She only fucks guys she is comfortable with and trusts.
So JJBee has sugar babies and once again perverts the term to GF to please his ego and brag. This is like his "marriage" where he and his "wife" were both fucking everything that moved. He does not have a girl friend, and he did not have a wife. In both cases, he had sugar babies even if he had a marriage certificate.
My gal's daughter loves Korean shows, and in one sense, they are more wholesome but practical and honest in another. There was this old lady who said to a young man, "Oh, you have money now. You should get married. " I so prefer that to the bullshit Hollywood puts out. You want to get laid and have fun? Work on your looks. You want to get laid and have a serious relationship? Work on making money. That is why JJBee is such a POS liar. He thinks he is not paying for sex. Hollywood has told him that it is virtuous to not pay for sex.
What a girlie man like JJBee does not get is this a way for men to let go of their money and power. If you believe that bullshit about she likes me and not my money, you are giving away your power. It is totally cool if women take your money and do not put out. It is their right to consent or not. Well, if he likes her for her, and she quits putting out, JJBee the Girlie man should stick with his women right?
I have been watching the men's rights groups, and it is refreshing that there are being so honest. They used to all be female hating but now they are realistic. They are saying if your wife is not putting out, dump her, and I am so glad they are saying that. When you do not equate sex with money, it plays right into the hands of women.
Really? It is always consenual?
How do you know? So no people are forced into prostitution or held as sex slaves?
What is it considered if she does not return the money and does not provide any service?
I think his reasoning was in your quote that he posted.
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So is it that nobody can force a girl to fuck someone she does not like or is it obvious that sometimes women do not give consent but are fucked anyway?Enlighten me, where in Medellin can I find and fuck sex slaves? La Isla? Lleras? New Life casa? Seeking or Facebook? Or where? Prostitution is legal in Colombia, slavery / human trafficking is not. It's not that it doesn't exist, but I bet 99.9% of us have never had sex with women held as sex slaves and never will. So cut this crap about rape and sex slaves.
Its the same shit you jack ass! Your body your choice! Now stop trying to have the last word, you're not impressing anyone with your stupidity.Although I'm not advocating anything regarding vaccines or condoms, its not the same thing. If you look around in Medellin you'll see an excellent example that illustrates the difference.
Look for the beggars with twisted, deformed or shriveled limbs. They contracted polio as children. The last case of polio in Colombia was in 1991 (although there have been 2 cases from vaccines since then, both were immuno-compromised). The reason why polio was eradicated in Colombia (and almost entirely eradicated worldwide) was because of mandatory vaccinations.
Had the world decided to treat it as "your body, your choice", thousands of children would still be crippled by the disease every year, and many would die.
I expected to get another stupid reply from you, but today you exceeded my expectations and posted 3 of them! Wow!
Prostitution IS consensual, do you know why? Because the man or woman must consent to have sex with you. Any hooker is free to decline service at any point. Maybe she finds you dangerous, obnoxious, unclean, etc. She is not a sex slave, and the fact that you pay her or not, doesn't obligate her to have sex with you. She has the right to return you the money and not provide any service. If there is no consent, then the sexual act is considered rape.
Why did you bring up the Kennedy case? The dude was not found guilty. It is obvious that if a woman is intentionally being drugged, she can't give her consent, and therefore, fucking a drugged woman might be considered rape if charges are pressed. Why are we even discussing this? Do mongers travel to a foreign country, where sex is cheap, and drug and rape women? Seriously? Again, you argue just for the sake of arguing, bringing up some weird exceptions. "There are many levels of consent" - wtf are you talking about? If one is of legal age, and is mentally capable of giving consent, it is either yes or no. Simple as that. But you, dumbass, are so dumb to understand this simple concept.
You have a very "unique" skill. You can find a pile of shit literally everywhere, on a fucking pool table, dive right into it and drown. Hilarious! LOL.It never ends. The complete lack of cognitive function you exhibit amazes me. The most amazing thing about it is, some employer is stupid enough to pay someone who can't follow a thought for more than 2 sentences.
You said:
Do you also realize that nobody forces a girl to fuck someone she doesn't like?Nearly everything you are questioning follows from that obviously idiotic question (although it's technically a statement converted to a question).
However, let's deal with consensual sex versus prostitution first.
Many prostitutes are in fact sex slaves. They are forced into prostitution in many different ways. Quite often they have no choice in who they fuck. Others, although not forced into prostitution by another person, have no other option to survive. Their consent is forced by their financial situation and lack of options.
That leaves a relatively small group of prostitutes, who are not forced into prostitution, who choose prostitution as a career. They can freely choose their customers. Still it's not consensual sex. It's a business transaction. Laws around the world confirm that. Depending on the country it's either an illegal business transaction, a legal business transaction, or an unenforced, illegal business transaction.
She is not a sex slave, and the fact that you pay her or not, doesn't obligate her to have sex with you.If you're in a country where prostitution is illegal, that's correct, because you can't compel someone to commit an illegal act through payment. However, if prostitution is legal, then payment for a service obligates the payee to perform the service. And just to be clear, if she returns the money:
1. You didn't pay her. There's no obligation to perform a paid service if no payment is received, or received payment is returned.
2. You're an idiot who still hasn't learned, payment for independent contractors is after completion of services.
Next up:
"Why are we discussing this?
Because some fucking idiot said:
Do you also realize that nobody forces a girl to fuck someone she doesn't like?Did you forget already?
Yes. Some mongers do travel to foreign countries, where sex is cheap, to drug and rape women. Others fuck prostitutes and refuse to pay. Still others beat up prostitutes. Arrests happen and these things have been discussed here.
To be absolutely clear, fucking a drugged woman is rape. It's not "might be considered rape if charges are pressed. " If charges are brought, the person might be charged with and convicted for rape, but it would definitely be considered rape.
Consent is not as simple as a yes or no, although, with your simple mind it's obvious you can't grasp that. In most cases consent is implied, not expressed. The girl removing all her clothes and telling me repeatedly that she wanted to fuck me, seems like a simple "yes. " However, she was obviously drunk. Her ability to consent was compromised. Had I considered it a simple "yes", and her boyfriend had woken up and caught us, she could have cried "rape" and claimed I had taken advantage of her inebriated state (which is also why the Kennedy case was brought up).
Your closing paragraph is a gem. You realize that you just declared your post was "a pile of shit?" Finally, common ground.
Enlighten me, where in Medellin can I find and fuck sex slaves? La Isla? Lleras? New Life casa? Seeking or Facebook? Or where? Prostitution is legal in Colombia, slavery / human trafficking is not. It's not that it doesn't exist, but I bet 99.9% of us have never had sex with women held as sex slaves and never will. So cut this crap about rape and sex slaves.You're the one who brought it up. Again:
Do you also realize that nobody forces a girl to fuck someone she doesn't like?Guys often force a girl to fuck someone she doesn't like and that's either called rape, or sexual slavery.
Probably, 10-25% of us have had sex with women held as sex slaves, even in Medellin. I suspect I have, although it was in the US.
I know for a fact that I have had sex with a woman who was formerly held as a sex slave. At least as early as 6, her mother was letting guys molest her for cash. At age 12 she sold her to a couple who owned a brothel in Atlanta. At 16, when she was getting too old for their clientele, they sold her to a guy who then married her. His fetish wasn't kids, he just wanted a woman he could beat whenever the mood struck him. He put her in the hospital a few times. She got away from him briefly, which is when we met. Eventually he tracked her down. It didn't end well for her.
This would be easier if you understood how paragraphs work.
How can you be so stupid? LOL. I said if she never met him in person or never heard of him. Do you consider riding a train full of strangers "meeting them in person?" Do you consider passing strangers on the street "meeting them in person"?"Or never heard of him. " That's the part which makes passing someone on the street relevant. How can just hearing about someone change their status from "stranger" to "someone you've met?
Meeting in person, in the dating / mongering context, is going on a date with a purpose to get to know each other, spend some time together, have fun, and maybe have consensual sex after. Or getting introduced to someone by mutual friends or family, for example at a birthday party. Once they are introduced, they are no longer strangers. Once they meet for a date, even if it is just a simple coffee, they are no longer strangers. How long it will take to get laid depends on the chemistry and / or the agreed upon amount of money (sex has to be consensual, dumbass, p4 p or not). There is plenty of girls who would fuck on the first date without pay. There is no rule or law anywhere in the world that says sex has to happen no sooner than X days from initial meetup. You never fucked a girl in the club without even asking her name? Poor you.Which is it? Is meeting in person "going on a date", or "getting introduced by someone?" Those are vastly different things. People meeting for a date are quite often strangers. However, if they are going on a date, they are at least attempting to no longer be strangers. But Frank from Marketing saying "this is Vijay from Singapore" doesn't mean you now know Vijay, or have any intention to get to know him.
There are plenty of girls who will fuck on the first date without pay. Generally speaking, that only applies if both parties are nearly the same age. However, I've found that women 35-45 often will have sex with guys from much younger to much older.
And yes, idiot, nobody forces a girl to fuck a guy she doesn't like. You again brought this rape topic up, which has nothing to do with consensual sex between two adults. If it is rape, there is no consent.You literally just disagreed with yourself and I'm the idiot? If it's rape, someone forced a girl to fuck a guy she doesn't like. How can you say nobody does it and then immediately follow by saying that people do it?
"Most women (who are not prostitutes) don't sleep with guys because they like or trust them. There is an age bracket between around 35-45 where it's more likely, but outside of that, if they aren't prostitutes, they want something more, some type of connection or relationship, or at least the belief that it's heading in that direction. " - WTF is this BS? By this logic, your GF is a prostitute. Some type of connection or relationship between you and her is your fantasy. Most likely, she is either after a green card, or paid trips to the US, or some other benefit that she gets or will get, by sucking your old dick.You should avoid using words you don't understand, which would limit your functional vocabulary to about 12 words. Logic isn't one of them.
How do you figure that? In one post you're questioning how I can know anything about college girls, in the next you're claiming to know everything about the connection between 2 people, neither of which you've ever met.
Your lack of knowledge doesn't define reality. If she is after some benefit from being with me, like a green card, then by definition, and the requirements to get a green card through being with me, she sees it as a relationship.
Speaking of Seeking college girls, or Tinder girls, or any other girls online. It is a numbers game, you are competing with other dudes, and the allowance that I'm willing to give doesn't depend on college degree or some normal job she has. I'm willing to give only what I'm comfortable giving. If other dudes are willing to give more, the chances of scoring are not in my favor, unless I bring something else to the table, which is not easy to do online.No. I'm not competing with other dudes. Although I loathe the term, competing with other dudes online by offering a girl more money is complete simp behavior. It's begging a woman to please notice you.
While I agree, it's unlikely you could ever bring anything else to the table, unless you land a job at Denny's, it's not at all difficult to do online. In fact, it's much easier to do online, even with prostitutes.
Does your GF know about the other 2 you are screwing? LOL. A business owner (apparently, not so successful businesswoman that had zero savings to go through the tough times and turned into a hooker once her business got shut down?) Special skill? Do you eat a pussy so well that nobody can resist?Does my GF know about the other 2? No. Should she?
How many sole propieters do you know who can financially afford zero income for 6 months, followed by 6 months of minimal income? Even the most successful corporations couldn't survive that intact. It's fascinating that you believe any company could just shrug that off.
How could "eating pussy so well nobody can resist" be a special skill used to talk a girl into meeting? Once again we're entering terra incognita for you. Guys who are able to have conversations with women learn they are often disappointed in guys attempts at cunnilingus. Telling a strange woman you're great at eating pussy is unlikely to advance the conversation.
However, being able to hold a conversation, generate interest and anticipate responses is a useful skill.
Mr Enternational
10-04-23, 14:28
Truth is if if these women really cared about you they would not want you seeing other women. When a woman says she does not care if you are fucking other women, it means she does not care about you.Or maybe if a woman really cared about you then she would not care what you did, as long as you came back to her.
And if you are fucking multiple women, it just means that you have not found one good or trust worthy enough to commit to.Why do you keep insisting that since one loves eating steak, they should not want to eat pizza ever again? Or because they have a favorite band, they should never want to listen to other bands?
Mr Enternational
10-04-23, 16:07
The girl removing all her clothes and telling me repeatedly that she wanted to fuck me, seems like a simple "yes. " However, she was obviously drunk. Her ability to consent was compromised. I am glad you brought that up. So if the girl was drunk and could not give consent, what if you were drunk too? Shouldn't that also relieve you of your ability to give consent? Seems you two are on even ground. So if two drunk people decide to do something and one later regrets it, how is it that in general it is the man that bears the burden of receiving the consent? Why are men seen as the ones that are supposed to be the responsible party while women are seen as the helpless party?
Mr Enternational
10-04-23, 16:13
Which is it? Is meeting in person "going on a date", or "getting introduced by someone?" Those are vastly different things.I think it is like the non-pro, semi-pro, pro thing. I say if someone is taking money for fucking they are a pro, while if they are not taking money for fucking then they are not a prostitute. Other guys say that someone that only fucks for money every third day is not a prostitute, but a semi-prostitute.
Maybe the same thing holds for strangers. There could be considered non-strangers, semi-strangers, and total strangers.
Although I'm not advocating anything regarding vaccines or condoms, its not the same thing. If you look around in Medellin you'll see an excellent example that illustrates the difference.
Look for the beggars with twisted, deformed or shriveled limbs. They contracted polio as children. The last case of polio in Colombia was in 1991 (although there have been 2 cases from vaccines since then, both were immuno-compromised). The reason why polio was eradicated in Colombia (and almost entirely eradicated worldwide) was because of mandatory vaccinations.
Had the world decided to treat it as "your body, your choice", thousands of children would still be crippled by the disease every year, and many would die.Fair enough, fair enough, unlike Seńor Huacho, your response actually provides real world examples and a certain level of intelligence. Perhaps vaccine mandates were not the best analogy to condom usage, but in regards to condoms I still say it's your body your choice, of course this applies to both parties making the decision not to use the condoms, you always must have consent from both sides, or else it would be rape like how you had to explain to Miamiboy1.
Its funny you brought up polio and beggers with deformed limbs because on La Playa (calle 52) between the coltejer tower and parque Berrío metro station there's always this begger dude sitting on the sidewalk with a fucked up swollen leg that looks like he probably has trouble walking. He always asks me for una ayuda or una moneda, now I almost feel bad that I always tell him to fuck off (not in those exact words). Maybe next time I'm on my way to the chicken place I may very well give him some of my loose change.
Gabacho.
Elvis 2008
10-04-23, 17:45
Or maybe if a woman really cared about you then she would not care what you did, as long as you came back to her.Why would a woman put up with your shit behavior? There is something wrong with her if she does.
Why do you keep insisting that since one loves eating steak, they should not want to eat pizza ever again? Or because they have a favorite band, they should never want to listen to other bands?I am not insisting anyone do anything except use the right words. You and JjBee keep calling your women GFs to boost your status and ego when you are out fucking hookers left and right. You are lying to everyone here, the women, and yourselves. Quit using the term GF. There are dozens of other terms to use. You two do not have GFs.
MongerHunger
10-04-23, 18:18
Its funny you brought up polio and beggers with deformed limbs because on La Playa (calle 52) between the coltejer tower and parque Berro metro station there's always this begger dude sitting on the sidewalk with a fucked up swollen leg that looks like he probably has trouble walking. He always asks me for una ayuda or una moneda, now I almost feel bad that I always tell him to fuck off
Gabacho.This speaks volumes about your character. No cap, just an observation.
Elvis 2008
10-04-23, 18:28
To be abundantly clear for those with poor reading skills, the difference between not using condoms and not getting vaccinated is that the latter can affect innocent bystanders while the former cannot. It's a pretty important distinction and the two require vastly different public health policies.Did you work in public health like your fellow Democratic douche John Clayton claims to have?
This is the headline from Zero Hedge today: Biden Admin Goes Full Orwell Denying Vaxx Mandates Ever Happened.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/will-make-your-blood-boil-biden-admin-goes-full-orwell-denying-vaxx-mandates-ever
Biden's head of OSHA, Douglas Parker, is also now lying through his teeth about the OSHA mandate that REQUIRED (not suggested) that all employers in the entire nation with 100 or more employees force their employees to get the C19 shot, otherwise they had to wear a mask and test constantly for C19. (That OSHA mandate was struck down by SCOTUS last year because it was unconstitutional, by the way). Then there's the head of HHS, Xavier Becerra, saying there was never a mask mandate. What?! Another blatant lie.
You never answered this directly so let me ask it. Do you have any regrets with how you responded to the Covid hysteria? If you don't, you are a fool. If you do, then why in the hell are you listening to public health officials now?
Gabacho is right with what he said. It is not just complete. Azithromycin does work well against the four STIs he mentioned with a proven track record. The same goes with other antibiotics and antivirals for STIs, and he mentioned Gardasil, a vaccine, for HPV, and there is a vaccine for Hepatitis be, a STI as well. Hepatitis be vaccines are mandated, so I don't know WTF you are talking about with regards to this big difference between condoms and vaccines. They are both sold as protection against STIs.
The Democratic douche John Clayton is against antibiotic and antiviral use because they are in his words "a precious resource". The belief is that if you overuse antibiotics and antivirals there will be resistance and they will no longer work. That may sound reasonable to you, but what we leaned with Covid is when the government is giving it to you up the posterior, you say, "Thank you sir, may I have another?
JC and the public health officials make no sense when antibiotics and antivirals are available all over the world over the counter. Hell, we even have farmers overusing them on cattle. So public health officials restricting antibiotics for STI prevention is like banning camp fires to prevent greenhouse gas production while ignoring the hundred new coal plants China is building. Resistant bacteria and greenhouse gases do jump over country borders.
Part of the reason that ivermectin and hydroxycholoroquine were so demonized is that if there was an effective Covid treatment, the experimental vaccines legally could not be approved, and some public officials made out like bandits when the vaccine was approved and that fucker Fauci refused to release the name of said officials who did profit.
So I have no clue why public health officials are recommending condoms for STI prevention when they know other methods work better. Maybe they believe their own bullshit or maybe they are profiting from their lying somehow.
But yeah, Gabacho knows 100 X more about this than you do. What is worse is when you see these public health officials lie their asses off to Congress like they are doing with Covid, their target audience is someone like you.
Mr Enternational
10-04-23, 20:08
The reason why polio was eradicated in Colombia (and almost entirely eradicated worldwide) was because of mandatory vaccinations.Yes for a vaccine 20 years in the making and 2 years in the testing, not 2 months in the making and 8 hours in the testing. The Pfizer big wig admitted they did not even test that shit for stuff governments claimed it would do before putting it out.
John Gault
10-04-23, 22:55
I know you guys don't like each other and if you tried for 100 years you would never convince each other on who has the right idea about mongering. Mean while the rest of us would like to see a trip report or two.
in regards to condoms I still say it's your body your choiceI think that too, with condoms and heroin and tattoos and many other things. Just. Not. Vaccines.
John Gault
10-04-23, 23:12
So I guess I need to give a half assed trip report. I stayed in three different hotels all in Centro. For once I was not robbed or bothered by crooks. I feel that my trips at night to Centro were helped by my carrying my baton. I did not have once to open it up for defense but I really feel that just having it with me gave of the vibe that there were other targets better to go after than me. The one or two times I forgot to take it with me made me feel less secure so I think I gave off a different vibe then when I had it in on my person. I have been to MDE more times than I can count so I have decided I am done with MDE. Let the make it rain guys and the fools that beg to pay 400 K for short time have their way. I am starting to think about I think it was called not seeing the same girl more than a few times the way to go. All I get now that I am home is requests for money via Western Union from girls who I came to like. If I travel again in the near future it will be to visit my friend Doom in GYE. No worry about security with him as even the real Gangters show him respect.
Mr Enternational
10-05-23, 03:18
You and JjBee keep calling your women GFs to boost your status and ego when you are out fucking hookers left and right. You are lying to everyone here, the women, and yourselves. Quit using the term GF. There are dozens of other terms to use. You two do not have GFs.What status and ego? I have had girlfriends since I was a teenager. It is just like breathing. You must be one of those late bloomers and to you getting a girlfriend is really something spectacular for you to think that having one boosts one's status or ego.
You still never answered what Mr. Faithful to one woman is doing posting on a hooker board everyday. The attention that you constantly give to us could be better used on your one and only. But I am sure that you have already told her about this website and that you post on it everyday, being that she is a REAL girlfriend and all. I know she gave it her stamp of approval, since you are running around worrying about what everybody else's girlfriend knows.
I know you guys don't like each other and if you tried for 100 years you would never convince each other on who has the right idea about mongering. Mean while the rest of us would like to see a trip report or two.Probably better to check in the Medellin Reports thread.
This thread is obviously for battling it out, and Stupid shit like that, LOL.
I am glad you brought that up. So if the girl was drunk and could not give consent, what if you were drunk too? Shouldn't that also relieve you of your ability to give consent? Seems you two are on even ground. So if two drunk people decide to do something and one later regrets it, how is it that in general it is the man that bears the burden of receiving the consent? Why are men seen as the ones that are supposed to be the responsible party while women are seen as the helpless party?That's a good question. In that particular situation there were extenuating circumstances which were part of my decision.
1. I was still married, although not happily married.
2. My best friend, his wife and kid were sleeping just down the hall. Her boyfriend was sleeping in the RV in the backyard. Someone waking up and walking in was a concern.
While I was drunk, I was sober enough to consider the consequences and potential problems. To me that meant I couldn't use the "I was drunk" escape.
Unless someone catches you in the act, like that swimmer raping a passed out girl by the dumpster, convictions are rare. Most of the natural consequences land on the girl. She's the only one with a chance of getting pregnant (which could trigger the "I was drunk and he raped me" report, if the guy bails.
Some of those truck stop bathrooms are pretty nice though. There's even some Pilots and Flying J's out in Wyoming that have private showers inside the bathrooms. I saw one in Iowa one time that even had a buffet restaurant called iron skillet inside of the the truck stop! Sounds as good a place as any to masturbate, then get a nice ribeye steak afterwards.You missed the really good ones, although most of them have gone downhill.
The Shell truckstop, in Holbrook, AZ had some deluxe shower rooms with Jacuzzis. They also had a good Mexican restaurant. The old Giant in Gallup, NM had a parking lot shuttle, full arcade, mini-mall and 4 or 5 restaurants. Little America truckstops in Little America, WY and Flagstaff, AZ had showers that resembled Las Vegas Hotel bathrooms, plus excellent steakhouses and hotels.
Sturbridge, MA, Morris, IL and Tucumcari, NM all had great restaurants. A few other places had in-house bakeries.
Those days are mostly passed. Everything is generic now. Still clean showers available, but it's fast food or Denny's instead of real food.
I almost forgot Pantyhose Junction, at least that's what everyone called the place. It was in Dunnigan, CA.
https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-xpm-1991-02-27-1991058227-story.html
You're the one who brought it up. Again:
Guys often force a girl to fuck someone she doesn't like and that's either called rape, or sexual slavery.
Probably, 10-25% of us have had sex with women held as sex slaves, even in Medellin. I suspect I have, although it was in the US.
I know for a fact that I have had sex with a woman who was formerly held as a sex slave. At least as early as 6, her mother was letting guys molest her for cash. At age 12 she sold her to a couple who owned a brothel in Atlanta. At 16, when she was getting too old for their clientele, they sold her to a guy who then married her. His fetish wasn't kids, he just wanted a woman he could beat whenever the mood struck him. He put her in the hospital a few times. She got away from him briefly, which is when we met. Eventually he tracked her down. It didn't end well for her.Human beings are awful. Was he ever arrested.
What status and ego? I have had girlfriends since I was a teenager. It is just like breathing.Mr E, surely you understand by now that in the World According to Elvis, a GF is an IAB female and non trans man with whom you have a long term monogamous relationship with. Open relationships and other options do not exist.
As far as what a hooker is versus a "regular" woman is not that she fucks for money. That is all women. The difference between a GF / wife and a hooker is there is a relationship beyond sex for money, and the GF / wife only has one man she is servicing. For me, a sugar baby is in the middle. There is a relationship beyond sex for money but sex for money is still there, and a sugar baby will not just fuck any guy for money. She only fucks guys she is comfortable with and trusts.
.In the World According to Elvis, what type of girl is this. I pick her up in an online platform, take her out fotr he evening, for dinner and pretend she is my GF, then take her home and FK her for money. Transactional?
Elvis 2008
10-05-23, 14:57
Mr E, surely you understand by now that in the World According to Elvis, a GF is an IAB female and non trans man with whom you have a long term monogamous relationship with. Open relationships and other options do not exist.It is not according to me. If you are helping out a woman you care about and are seeing other women, she is a sugar baby. If the woman is not getting a financial reward, you can call her a fuck buddy or a friend with benefits. All these terms though have negative connotations, and you all know that.
GF and wife have positive societal connotations, and you all know that and that is why you want to use them. If you have a woman who you call GF and she says that she does not mind you fucking other women, that just means the two of you have gotten together and tried to redefine its meaning. Show me one mainstream source that says it is okay to have a GF and fuck hookers on the side.
OTOH, there is no societal expectation of monogamy with a FWB, fuck buddy, john, or sugar baby.
Mr. E's definitions do not allow for sugar babies. There are hookers and not hookers, and a sugar baby is not any different from a hooker. Hookers take money for sex and non hookers do not. JJBee has derided sugar daddies as suckers who pay Colombian women who do not have sex so he wants to use the term GF instead of sugar baby when that is exactly what his "girlfriend" is.
And Mr. E are you paying your "girlfriend" with time? And is part of the time you spend with her in hopes of being charming enough so that she will have sex with you? And doesn't time equal money? So stop with the bullshit about I am not paying a "grown ass woman". You are paying. You are paying with time, and for a lot of us but maybe not you, time equals money.
LOL. Apparently, we need to do a different cute-rich matrix for you where the whole graph is filled in because all the women want you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pInk1rV2VEg.All the women don't want me. I've never made that claim. I spent almost a full year cultivating contacts, meeting women, getting referrals, and generally making a good impression. I spent another 2 years weeding out the bad and selectively adding the good. After that I spent at least 6 months seeking out women who were completely off the gringo radar, most of them were not in any way involved with P4 P.
I have spent money on them but have not paid them for sex? Say what?I've spent money on many women without paying them for sex. Christmas presents for family members, buying drinks for friends, giving change to homeless women, helping girls fix various household or automotive problems. The list goes on. Does your mom suck your dick when you buy her a Mother's Day card? I guess my family is different. We just say "thanks."
I've bought meals and given small gifts to girls I've dated. Sometimes the dates led to sex, sometimes not. Are you saying, if I take a girl to a cheap diner, buy her lunch and then a few weeks later we bump into each other at a bar, have a few drinks, each buying their own, then decide to fuck, I paid her for sex?
Truth is if if these women really cared about you they would not want you seeing other women. When a woman says she does not care if you are fucking other women, it means she does not care about you.Truth is you know nothing about women. Although replacing "women" with any subject doesn't change the accuracy of the statement.
I think I see. I'm supposed to ask for permission to fuck? Is that right? I don't do that. However, I can understand it from a guy who thinks he has to earn the right to fuck a girl. What I do outside of any relationship, I do because I want to, and I don't ask permission. The same if my wife cooks only lactose free meals, and I decide to stop somewhere for a milkshake. I don't beg her to let me have a milkshake, I don't tell her I had a milkshake. If it would bother her, I'll brush my teeth before going home.
And if you are fucking multiple women, it just means that you have not found one good or trust worthy enough to commit to.There are other options. If you weren't such a clueless whiner, you could have come up with something much better. Maybe I'm the one not worthy. That was the case at least once in the past. I wasn't prepared to commit, but committed anyway and it fell apart.
However, in this situation, I'm not seeking a monogamous relationship. Biologically humans aren't evolved for monogamy. All the current couples I know, who have been married for 30+ years have engaged in some form of extramarital sex. Someone who has repeatedly talked about having a harem shouldn't be stupid enough to point the finger here. But, if there's 1 thing you excel in, it's being stupid enough for any situation.
MB, if you look at the female version of the hot-crazy matrix, the cute-money matrix, what the guy is saying, and I agree with, is that women do not take men seriously, I. E. Are husband material, if they do not have money. If you are attractive and poor, the women will play with you (AKA the fun zone), but they won't take you seriously.
As far as what a hooker is versus a "regular" woman is not that she fucks for money. That is all women. The difference between a GF / wife and a hooker is there is a relationship beyond sex for money, and the GF / wife only has one man she is servicing. For me, a sugar baby is in the middle. There is a relationship beyond sex for money but sex for money is still there, and a sugar baby will not just fuck any guy for money. She only fucks guys she is comfortable with and trusts.The gibberish of Elvis is truly something to behold.
So all women are hookers, right? That's what you're saying.
1. All women fuck for money. "As far as what a hooker is versus a "regular" woman is not that she fucks for money. That is all women.
2. Sugar Babies fuck for money, but have a relationship with the sugar daddy.
3. Hookers fuck for money, but don't have a relationship.
4. The difference between a hooker and a regular GF or wife is that the hooker doesn't have a relationship.
Ergo, all women are hookers. Some hookers have relationships. It baffles me how you can write it down, read through it and have no clue what you just said.
Girlfriends and wives quite often fuck other men. I can attest to that because I've fucked a lot of wives and girlfriends. There are even wives and girlfriends who work as hookers. I've fucked some of them too.
So JJBee has sugar babies and once again perverts the term to GF to please his ego and brag. This is like his "marriage" where he and his "wife" were both fucking everything that moved. He does not have a girl friend, and he did not have a wife. In both cases, he had sugar babies even if he had a marriage certificate.Oh Elvis! Just like Mami'sBoy, your inability to understand objectivity prevents you from ever being right. Well, that, your inability to remember basic details, your insistence on twisting reality to coincide with your warped beliefs and your sub 90 IQ also contribute.
This all began because your fuck buddy DramaQueen stated that all of the college girls he talked to on seeking didn't have computers, and when he asked if they needed computers, all of them said "no. " Either almost all were not college girls, or it's just another DramaQueen fantasy.
I pointed out the ridiculousness of every college girl refusing a free computer and Mami'sBoy boy decided to change the subject to "how he fucks college girls" and I only fuck trash. He's been unwilling to address the DQ inconsistency of college girls refusing free computers. Instead, he chose to make the discussion about my GF.
No bragging on my part (another Elvis deja vu moment. Everything I explain to you, feels like I've had to explain a dozen times before). How is "I have a girlfriend" bragging? They're easy to get. I've had dozens. If I mention that I have a car, is that also bragging?
You really should have been a baseball player, although obviously not a pinch runner, because you're batting 1. 000 on getting things wrong.
I've had 3 wives. The first had a boyfriend (unknown to me) the whole time. I only fucked her during the marriage. The second wife I cheated on a few times, before the cancer which killed her returned. She never cheated on me. The third wife, might have cheated on me. Once we separated, I was fucking lots of women before the divorce went through.
I did have a casual girlfriend for a few years and we frequently went to a swingers club, although we had limited interactions with others. When I was in town, maybe every 6 weeks, for 2 or 3 days, I was her boyfriend. The rest of the time we did our own thing.
Several years later I had a girlfriend and we were swingers. We went to swingers clubs, house parties and hotel parties together. We even hosted a few couples at our place. We were same-room swingers. Usually we would go with 1 other couple, sometimes 2 or 3 couples. The girls would typically have some fun together before the guys joined in. We would swap partners, or just stay with our partner. Each time we made the decision together. At the end of the night, we'd go back home.
Swinging successfully requires trust and a suppression of ego. You can't be insecure. It's not something you could ever handle. I'm not really sure how she could be considered a sugar baby. We always split all household expenses, although I usually paid for date nights.
My gal's daughter loves Korean shows, and in one sense, they are more wholesome but practical and honest in another. There was this old lady who said to a young man, "Oh, you have money now. You should get married. " I so prefer that to the bullshit Hollywood puts out. You want to get laid and have fun? Work on your looks. You want to get laid and have a serious relationship? Work on making money. That is why JJBee is such a POS liar. He thinks he is not paying for sex. Hollywood has told him that it is virtuous to not pay for sex.Still batting, or babbling 1. 000.
Hollywood hasn't told me anything. I've rarely watched TV for 30 years. An occasional movie, some sports. When I wanted to get laid and have fun, I didn't work on my looks. I just talked to women. Some wanted relationships, some wanted to get laid and have fun. It's quite simple. About 90% of the women in the world want to have sex with men. Instead of going on sites where women are looking for johns or sugar daddies, I've always just talked to women. Turns out, if you can make them laugh and your breath doesn't stink, most women are happy to talk.
When I don't want to deal with that, I choose a prostitute and pay her.
I'm thinking of 3 couples. Two have been married for more than 50 years, the other over 30 years. All 3 started married life with nothing, just a job. All struggled for years, together. Two couples are retired comfortably with modest incomes. The third struggled for years, had some rough patches, before all their hard work paid off. They'll retire in a few years with a substantial income.
If you want a sugar daddy / sugar baby relationship work on making money, because the only thing holding the girl to you is the money. If you want a real relationship, work on the relationship. Of course, you first have to work on you. You have to be someone who offers more than just money.
What a girlie man like JJBee does not get is this a way for men to let go of their money and power. If you believe that bullshit about she likes me and not my money, you are giving away your power. It is totally cool if women take your money and do not put out. It is their right to consent or not. Well, if he likes her for her, and she quits putting out, JJBee the Girlie man should stick with his women right?That's not just bullshit, it's self-deprecating insanity. In other words, your girl is only with you for your money. There's nothing she likes about you, and if the money stops, or some guy offers more, she's spreading her legs for someone else.
My way, she doesn't get my money. If the relationship doesn't provide me with what I want from the relationship, I walk away. I don't give more money to try and keep her. That's just pathetic. Then again, I don't provide her with a place to live, don't pay her expenses and don't give her a monthly allowance.
It is her right to consent or not. What kind of shitstain would question that? That's rhetorical, because everyone knows what kind of shitstain you are.
It's her right to consent. It's my right to get consent. That's what men do. Giving her more money is a sad way to go about things, which is what you said you had to do to get your girl. And you're saying it again, make money to get a relationship, use money to maintain the relationship.
I just use smiles. She's smiling when I see her and I keep her smiling. If I can't make her smile, and vice versa, I don't try to buy a smile, I pack my bags and go.
I have been watching the men's rights groups, and it is refreshing that there are being so honest. They used to all be female hating but now they are realistic. They are saying if your wife is not putting out, dump her, and I am so glad they are saying that. When you do not equate sex with money, it plays right into the hands of women.Ah. Is that Simps Anonymous, the Incel Commandos?
You're like Charlie Brown begging Lucy to pull the ball away.
I equate sex with money, when I'm conducting a straight sex for money transaction. Anything else is necessarily more complicated. Am I just looking for a one time thing, or a semi-regular encounter. Am I looking for a relationship. How much time and effort will it take? Will it be worth it?
If I'm in a relationship and the sex stops, I don't try to solve the problem with money. If the problem is solved by money, I was never in a relationship. Why did the sex stop? Is there a viable solution? Is it worth the effort?
The "if your wife isn't putting out, dump her" advice is the advice of children, emotionally undeveloped adults who still think like pre-pubescent brats. It's "I'll just take my toys and go home. ".
Adults, specifically those who deserve to be called men, don't crawl away crying when they encounter problems. They fix them. Some problems can't be fixed, some aren't worth fixing. But bawling your head off and walking away from the problem is disgusting. Stock up on maxi-pads, because you're about to begin ovulating.
Maybe everything about the relationship is great, except the sex is lacking. Has she lost desire? Menopause will do that, something you'll soon be dealing with. Did you stop putting in the effort? If it can't be fixed, find yourself outside options and keep the happy relationship. Unless you think a relationship is only about money, there's a great deal more.
Solutions require thought and effort, 2 things you're incapable of.
Elvis 2008
10-05-23, 19:14
All the women don't want me. I've never made that claim. I spent almost a full year cultivating contacts, meeting women, getting referrals, and generally making a good impression. I spent another 2 years weeding out the bad and selectively adding the good. After that I spent at least 6 months seeking out women who were completely off the gringo radar, most of them were not in any way involved with P4 P.I will make it easy to explain. You described sugar daddies as suckers who send money to Colombian women via Western Union. Let me help you out. You care about your woman? Yes. Do you pay her? Yes. Are you faithful to her? No. Do you see other women you pay? Yes. Do you care about them? Yes. Do you expect sex from said women? Yes Are you an older man seeing younger women? Yes.
Then you are a sugar daddy. When I say she does not care about you, I do not mean as a friend but she is not a girlfriend. You are just using that term because you trashed other guys. You spent day and night trashing MB for having a sugar relationship when you yourself have one or more than one.
As for another member of crew, Mr. E, claims to have a GF too. I have one question for him: are you hanging out with your "girlfriend" with the expectation of sex? Then you are paying with time so you can stop with this notion you are not paying.
And any woman who has a BF and says that she does not mind if he is off fucking working girls is advertising herself as damaged goods. What guy would want to be with a woman after that? You are devaluing her in the sexual market place, and that is why you are full of shit it you say she does not mind.
Both of you are trying to portray yourself as such studs that the women care so much about you that they fuck you for free and do not care if you are off fucking other women, and that is total bullshit. The only women who would ever accept such an arrangement are trash no one wants.
Having a GF requires commitment, and you two are not financially or emotionally committing. The only thing you two are committed to is yourselves.
Mr Enternational
10-05-23, 21:00
If you are helping out a woman you care about and are seeing other women, she is a sugar baby. If the woman is not getting a financial reward, you can call her a fuck buddy or a friend with benefits.This is the dumbest shit I have ever heard. If you have a girlfriend that you do not give money to while you are seeing other women then she is only a fuck buddy or friend with benefits. Elvis does it again! So what is a wife called if her husband fucks with other women? What if a guy lives with a chick and she pays all the bills? What is she called then? What if a guys lives with his girlfriend and they split the bills 50/50. What is she called then? An even better question: What if you have a girlfriend and you are waiting for marriage for sex. What is she called then? The Book of Elvis is a damn fool. It states that a woman is only to be called a girlfriend if the guy is not seeing anyone else AND is giving her money. Well what if the woman starts seeing someone else in conjunction? Is she then no longer a girlfriend? So many questions and so many dumb answers.
Mr Enternational
10-05-23, 22:59
And Mr. E are you paying your "girlfriend" with time? And is part of the time you spend with her in hopes of being charming enough so that she will have sex with you? And doesn't time equal money? So stop with the bullshit about I am not paying a "grown ass woman". You are paying. You are paying with time, and for a lot of us but maybe not you, time equals money.Man stop being disingenuous. When someone says paying you know exactly they do not mean paying with time. If I go sign up for some courses, I would look like a damn fool asking the registrar how much time do I need to pay the school for these courses?
Are you 10 years old? Grown men do not have to hope someone has sex with them. When grown people like each other that is just what they do. There is no mysticism in having sex with someone. It is nature.
Time is only money when you are using that time for something in lieu of making planned money. If it is just planned free time that you are using then time would not be money. And money isn't everything. Some people value human interaction as worth more.
There is a guy in the Rio thread right now who is down in Brazil with plenty of money, but lamenting that Brazilians or foreigners that he is coming into contact with will not give him the time of day. Pocket full of money but can not make friends to enjoy his time with.
It is not according to me.
.You say no then proceed to argue yes. You are ine circular and contrary individual.
DramaFree11
10-07-23, 04:11
All the women don't want me. I've never made that claim. I spent almost a full year cultivating contacts, meeting women, getting referrals, and generally making a good impression. I spent another 2 years weeding out the bad and selectively adding the good. After that I spent at least 6 months seeking out women who were completely off the gringo radar, most of them were not in any way involved with P4 P.
I've spent money on many women without paying them for sex. Christmas presents for family members, buying drinks for friends, giving change to homeless women, helping girls fix various household or automotive problems. The list goes on. Does your mom suck your dick when you buy her a Mother's Day card? I guess my family is different. We just say "thanks."
I've bought meals and given small gifts to girls I've dated. Sometimes the dates led to sex, sometimes not. Are you saying, if I take a girl to a cheap diner, buy her lunch and then a few weeks later we bump into each other at a bar, have a few drinks, each buying their own, then decide to fuck, I paid her for sex?
Truth is you know nothing about women. Although replacing "women" with any subject doesn't change the accuracy of the statement.
I think I see. I'm supposed to ask for permission to fuck? Is that right? I don't do that. However, I can understand it from a guy who thinks he has to earn the right to fuck a girl. What I do outside of any relationship, I do because I want to, and I don't ask permission. The same if my wife cooks only lactose free meals, and I decide to stop somewhere for a milkshake. I don't beg her to let me have a milkshake, I don't tell her I had a milkshake. If it would bother her, I'll brush my teeth before going home.
There are other options. If you weren't such a clueless whiner, you could have come up with something much better. Maybe I'm the one not worthy. That was the case at least once in the past. I wasn't prepared to commit, but committed anyway and it fell apart.
However, in this situation, I'm not seeking a monogamous relationship. Biologically humans aren't evolved for monogamy. All the current couples I know, who have been married for 30+ years have engaged in some form of extramarital sex. Someone who has repeatedly talked about having a harem shouldn't be stupid enough to point the finger here. But, if there's 1 thing you excel in, it's being stupid enough for any situation.
The gibberish of Elvis is truly something to behold.
So all women are hookers, right? That's what you're saying.
1. All women fuck for money. "As far as what a hooker is versus a "regular" woman is not that she fucks for money. That is all women.
2. Sugar Babies fuck for money, but have a relationship with the sugar daddy.
3. Hookers fuck for money, but don't have a relationship.
4. The difference between a hooker and a regular GF or wife is that the hooker doesn't have a relationship.
Ergo, all women are hookers. Some hookers have relationships. It baffles me how you can write it down, read through it and have no clue what you just said.
Girlfriends and wives quite often fuck other men. I can attest to that because I've fucked a lot of wives and girlfriends. There are even wives and girlfriends who work as hookers. I've fucked some of them too.
Oh Elvis! Just like Mami'sBoy, your inability to understand objectivity prevents you from ever being right. Well, that, your inability to remember basic details, your insistence on twisting reality to coincide with your warped beliefs and your sub 90 IQ also contribute.
This all began because your fuck buddy DramaQueen stated that all of the college girls he talked to on seeking didn't have computers, and when he asked if they needed computers, all of them said "no. " Either almost all were not college girls, or it's just another DramaQueen fantasy.
I pointed out the ridiculousness of every college girl refusing a free computer and Mami'sBoy boy decided to change the subject to "how he fucks college girls" and I only fuck trash. He's been unwilling to address the DQ inconsistency of college girls refusing free computers. Instead, he chose to make the discussion about my GF.
No bragging on my part (another Elvis deja vu moment. Everything I explain to you, feels like I've had to explain a dozen times before). How is "I have a girlfriend" bragging? They're easy to get. I've had dozens. If I mention that I have a car, is that also bragging?
You really should have been a baseball player, although obviously not a pinch runner, because you're batting 1. 000 on getting things wrong.
I've had 3 wives. The first had a boyfriend (unknown to me) the whole time. I only fucked her during the marriage. The second wife I cheated on a few times, before the cancer which killed her returned. She never cheated on me. The third wife, might have cheated on me. Once we separated, I was fucking lots of women before the divorce went through.
I did have a casual girlfriend for a few years and we frequently went to a swingers club, although we had limited interactions with others. When I was in town, maybe every 6 weeks, for 2 or 3 days, I was her boyfriend. The rest of the time we did our own thing.
Several years later I had a girlfriend and we were swingers. We went to swingers clubs, house parties and hotel parties together. We even hosted a few couples at our place. We were same-room swingers. Usually we would go with 1 other couple, sometimes 2 or 3 couples. The girls would typically have some fun together before the guys joined in. We would swap partners, or just stay with our partner. Each time we made the decision together. At the end of the night, we'd go back home.
Swinging successfully requires trust and a suppression of ego. You can't be insecure. It's not something you could ever handle. I'm not really sure how she could be considered a sugar baby. We always split all household expenses, although I usually paid for date nights.
Still batting, or babbling 1. 000.
Hollywood hasn't told me anything. I've rarely watched TV for 30 years. An occasional movie, some sports. When I wanted to get laid and have fun, I didn't work on my looks. I just talked to women. Some wanted relationships, some wanted to get laid and have fun. It's quite simple. About 90% of the women in the world want to have sex with men. Instead of going on sites where women are looking for johns or sugar daddies, I've always just talked to women. Turns out, if you can make them laugh and your breath doesn't stink, most women are happy to talk.
When I don't want to deal with that, I choose a prostitute and pay her.
I'm thinking of 3 couples. Two have been married for more than 50 years, the other over 30 years. All 3 started married life with nothing, just a job. All struggled for years, together. Two couples are retired comfortably with modest incomes. The third struggled for years, had some rough patches, before all their hard work paid off. They'll retire in a few years with a substantial income.
If you want a sugar daddy / sugar baby relationship work on making money, because the only thing holding the girl to you is the money. If you want a real relationship, work on the relationship. Of course, you first have to work on you. You have to be someone who offers more than just money.
That's not just bullshit, it's self-deprecating insanity. In other words, your girl is only with you for your money. There's nothing she likes about you, and if the money stops, or some guy offers more, she's spreading her legs for someone else.
My way, she doesn't get my money. If the relationship doesn't provide me with what I want from the relationship, I walk away. I don't give more money to try and keep her. That's just pathetic. Then again, I don't provide her with a place to live, don't pay her expenses and don't give her a monthly allowance.
It is her right to consent or not. What kind of shitstain would question that? That's rhetorical, because everyone knows what kind of shitstain you are.
It's her right to consent. It's my right to get consent. That's what men do. Giving her more money is a sad way to go about things, which is what you said you had to do to get your girl. And you're saying it again, make money to get a relationship, use money to maintain the relationship.
I just use smiles. She's smiling when I see her and I keep her smiling. If I can't make her smile, and vice versa, I don't try to buy a smile, I pack my bags and go.
Ah. Is that Simps Anonymous, the Incel Commandos?
You're like Charlie Brown begging Lucy to pull the ball away.
I equate sex with money, when I'm conducting a straight sex for money transaction. Anything else is necessarily more complicated. Am I just looking for a one time thing, or a semi-regular encounter. Am I looking for a relationship. How much time and effort will it take? Will it be worth it?
If I'm in a relationship and the sex stops, I don't try to solve the problem with money. If the problem is solved by money, I was never in a relationship. Why did the sex stop? Is there a viable solution? Is it worth the effort?
The "if your wife isn't putting out, dump her" advice is the advice of children, emotionally undeveloped adults who still think like pre-pubescent brats. It's "I'll just take my toys and go home. ".
Adults, specifically those who deserve to be called men, don't crawl away crying when they encounter problems. They fix them. Some problems can't be fixed, some aren't worth fixing. But bawling your head off and walking away from the problem is disgusting. Stock up on maxi-pads, because you're about to begin ovulating.
Maybe everything about the relationship is great, except the sex is lacking. Has she lost desire? Menopause will do that, something you'll soon be dealing with. Did you stop putting in the effort? If it can't be fixed, find yourself outside options and keep the happy relationship. Unless you think a relationship is only about money, there's a great deal more.
Solutions require thought and effort, 2 things you're incapable of.I never said they did not have a computer. I said they never have with them. I also said there computer skills are way behind Euros and Americans.
You are in a league by yourself. You could learn a few things from Elvis and M. Boy, but you are just too jealous and dumb. You are the loser hanging out in Colombia, while the 3 of us have been traveling the world. Me not so much anymore I stick with Mxico, I have hit the jackpot traveling between MTY / CDMX, while you complain and make shit up.
What status and ego? I have had girlfriends since I was a teenager. It is just like breathing. You must be one of those late bloomers and to you getting a girlfriend is really something spectacular for you to think that having one boosts one's status or ego.
You still never answered what Mr. Faithful to one woman is doing posting on a hooker board everyday. The attention that you constantly give to us could be better used on your one and only. But I am sure that you have already told her about this website and that you post on it everyday, being that she is a REAL girlfriend and all. I know she gave it her stamp of approval, since you are running around worrying about what everybody else's girlfriend knows.I'm beyond baffled here. How does having a girlfriend, or saying you have a girlfriend, boost your status? What status? I guess if we were on the "I've never had a girlfriend" website it might boost it.
It's a hooker information exchange platform. Whether or not someone has a girlfriend is useless trivia. If someone asks where to buy viagra, does having a girlfriend improve my answer?
"Go to any drugstore, and since I have a girlfriend you know that's the best answer. ".
It is not according to me. If you are helping out a woman you care about and are seeing other women, she is a sugar baby. If the woman is not getting a financial reward, you can call her a fuck buddy or a friend with benefits. All these terms though have negative connotations, and you all know that.
GF and wife have positive societal connotations, and you all know that and that is why you want to use them. If you have a woman who you call GF and she says that she does not mind you fucking other women, that just means the two of you have gotten together and tried to redefine its meaning. Show me one mainstream source that says it is okay to have a GF and fuck hookers on the side.Sure. Holy Bible. King James Version. Old Testament. I'll leave it to you to find all the references.
OTOH, there is no societal expectation of monogamy with a FWB, fuck buddy, john, or sugar baby.
Mr. E's definitions do not allow for sugar babies. There are hookers and not hookers, and a sugar baby is not any different from a hooker. Hookers take money for sex and non hookers do not. JJBee has derided sugar daddies as suckers who pay Colombian women who do not have sex so he wants to use the term GF instead of sugar baby when that is exactly what his "girlfriend" is.
And Mr. E are you paying your "girlfriend" with time? And is part of the time you spend with her in hopes of being charming enough so that she will have sex with you? And doesn't time equal money? So stop with the bullshit about I am not paying a "grown ass woman". You are paying. You are paying with time, and for a lot of us but maybe not you, time equals money.As I understand it, a SD / SB arrangement is an informal arrangement with a clearly defined payment or support structure for the man, along with the man's expectations for the woman. The difference between a sugar baby and a hooker is the difference between renting an furnished apartment and renting a hotel room. One gets paid monthly, the other daily.
Sticking with the analogy, a girlfriend is the equivalent of a long-term lease, of an unfurnished residence, and a wife is a mortgage. For both you start with a basic structure and furnish it to your liking.
Neither situation precludes you from occasionally spending the night in a hotel. According to the Kinsey Institute, 23% of men and 19% of women in committed relationships admitted to infidelity. It's not uncommon.
Since you insist I have a sugar baby, what's the arrangement? In order to make such a declaration, you have to know the details of the arrangement. Otherwise you're just doing the Elvis, babbling incoherently about shit you know nothing about.
Get your licks in now Surfer! Centro is terminally ill and will be gone within five years.
Not sure about your prediction based on your estimate that locals make up 95% of the Centro girls customers, but seems reasonable.
So based on your estimate, are your saying that 5% of the gringos will drive the pricing so high in Centro for both locals and gringos, that the majority of the Centro girls will jump to Poblado.
The customers who pull in Pobaldo are not going to go with the majority of girls of work Centro as they not very desirable.
The "jump" of girls from Centro to Poblado has been taking place for several months now, and the quality is not all that great, and I doubt it can become any more saturated, especially with more fat and ugly girls from Centro.
Also, based on the majority of the clients being locals in Centro, my prediction is pricing won't change much in Centro except for inflation.
And also something you may not be aware of, but the locals do control pricing to a certain degree in Centro.
If you spend much time in Centro and observe how the locals interact with the girls, a lot of times a local will go up to a girl, and then after a short period of time will walk away..
LoveItHere
10-09-23, 07:53
Get your licks in now Surfer! Centro is terminally ill and will be gone within five years.The critical juncture is here. I have been gone 2 years and have lost 5% of the number of girls and 5% of the top girls since returning. This lower quality has been mentioned in endless posts in all areas (street, spas, Poblado). Also, all the Youtube, instagram, twitter videos and posts bringing more and more guys here. Same has been said about hotel and AirBnB room prices going up. Locals are not doing this.
So if Centro lost the top 5% in 2 years. This accelerates another 5% in the next 1. 5 years, 5% in 1 years, and lastly 5% in 6 months. That comes to losing the top 20% in 5 years. Once the hottest 20% are gone then no foreigners are coming to Centro thus dead in my estimation. The girls are learning the ropes more and more quickly now. The girls I was with just a weeks ago asking me for higher prices is just testing the waters because some fool paid high for them or one of their friends. Their mode of operation is changing and it will accelerate.
I was there in Angeles City (Philippines) when critical mass happened with the Koreans. That took 10 years but they were buying up Girlie Bars which takes more time and money. They now own half of the bars with girls in them. Nothing needs to be bought in Centro, just pay higher fees to the girls. Much simpler and faster. Angeles City (PH) now has half the number of bars and the quality has dropped, prices increased, and average ages of the girls has risen by 4+ years, the girls wear more clothes on stage, and fewer girls on stage now. We want bikinis. The Koreans want the girls dressed in dresses. If you have any buddies you know who used to visit there then ask them. I lived there 2. 5 years when critical mass happened. Had a buddy from Korea at that time too. His flight was only 4. 5 hours so he could easily visit on a 3 day weekend.
Elvis 2008
10-09-23, 12:21
As I understand it, a SD / SB arrangement is an informal arrangement with a clearly defined payment or support structure for the man, along with the man's expectations for the woman. The difference between a sugar baby and a hooker is the difference between renting an furnished apartment and renting a hotel room. One gets paid monthly, the other daily. Since you insist I have a sugar baby, what's the arrangement?SMH. Three times I went to Senior Frog's with one, two, and three women in tow. I was not serious with any of them at the time. SF's has funny signs they put up behind their customers. Three times they put the sign sugar daddy behind me, and three times, they were right.
When I kissed my much younger GF goodbye, a cab driver told me, "You have a pretty GF" which again was on target.
You can insert your personal insult like you always do here, but the point is these people correctly knew what kind of relationships I had just from the vibes the women and I gave off.
Sure. Holy Bible. King James Version. Old Testament. I'll leave it to you to find all the references.And so if you went to Senior Frog's the sign would read "In a Biblical relationship" versus "sugardaddy"?
Yeah, you would think that.
Elvis 2008
10-09-23, 12:56
Man stop being disingenuous. When someone says paying you know exactly they do not mean paying with time.
Are you 10 years old? Grown men do not have to hope someone has sex with them.You parade around all superior to others for getting laid without paying for it when you are paying with time. You are oblivious to the fact that for other guys the reason they pay is that it is cheaper than wooing a woman like you do because for them time equals money. Do you get time equals money is something that is true for a "grown man" not a 10 year old? Again, here you go parading around all superior while you are being immature.
The Book of Elvis is a damn fool. It states that a woman is only to be called a girlfriend if the guy is not seeing anyone else AND is giving her money.I said you are not financially or emotionally committed. You and JJBee are off spending your time and money on other women and care about pleasing them more than your "girlfriends".
Truth is when you and JJBee parade around with the term GF, all you are doing is showing everyone you are arrogant POS liars. He has a sugar baby and you have a friend with benefits, and everyone knows it.
The critical juncture is here. I have been gone 2 years and have lost 5% of the number of girls The thing is, this is all made up in your head, both the number and the assessment. People find the girls less attractive simply bcos they get used to them. They are just not blown away by the false positive emotion they felt the first time.
As for AC, I always thought the quality of girls was prett low. Wanting bikinis, well that's just your own subjective preference. Not mine. Not the majority. Cheap girls you can still find down the far end or outside of the big clubs. Its only ruined if you allow it be that way in your mind.
...You are in a league by yourself. ...I agree with this statement since he appears to be the only one that have girls with visa to visit him in US.
Mr Enternational
10-09-23, 17:20
You parade around all superior to others for getting laid without paying for it when you are paying with time. You are oblivious to the fact that for other guys the reason they pay is that it is cheaper than wooing a woman like you do because for them time equals money. Once again some dumb Elvis shit. So guys pay because they rather spend their time working than talking to women? Uhh what is the problem with doing both? And what about retired men that pay? Not that I am superior because I know how to talk to women and can fuck them for free, but maybe it just boils down to my time management skills since I also work and make money. But from your viewpoint, nobody that works fucks women for free, because they don't have time?
Are these guys also not sleeping and not taking shits because time is money and they are not going to waste it in bed or on the toilet the way you consider talking to women as wasting it? The more you write the dumber you sound.
I never said that I was wooing anybody, unless by wooing you mean talking. We all have our priorities. If yours is money money money instead of fostering relationships then that is your choice. Once again, to some people relationships mean more than money. And once again some people can do both; it is not an either or.
Mr Enternational
10-09-23, 17:28
I said you are not financially or emotionally committed. You and JJBee are off spending your time and money on other women and care about pleasing them more than your "girlfriends".
Wrong again genius. I am off spending my time and money on myself! My own kid is grown and does not ask me for shit. You think I am taking care of some broad then you have lost your damn mind. Commit MY money to a chick? Elvis: you stupid.
Get your licks in now Surfer! Centro is terminally ill and will be gone within five years.Yeah I know, as a result of my actions, and my actions alone starting about 8 years ago when I began summoning mongers from around the World to come to Centro, and they have been coming in droves like locusts, almost like pilgrims.
The Veracruz Church was established over 300 years ago, and I suspect there have been hookers plying their trade around the Church for more than a century, yet the end is near as a result of my call for all able bodied mongers to come to Centro.
Perhaps the Colombian Government will give me some type of award for causing the demise and end of prostitution at this venue which the Government has been unable to do.
I agree with this statement since he appears to be the only one that have girls with visa to visit him in US.I'm sure I'm not the only one. Maybe the only 1 posting in the Colombia forums. I've got a few girls in my contacts who occasionally post from US locations.
JohnnieCash
10-10-23, 15:12
The Veracruz Church was established over 300 years ago, and I suspect there have been hookers plying their trade around the Church for more than a century, yet the end is near...We are living in different age though, information can travel around the world in milliseconds, so it doesn't take much for the proverbial cat to be out of the bag (PSA -- remember to slap your local youtuber LOL).
Not to mention most of the information is being saved / archived and searchable.
Add to that airplanes and the world is getting smaller, a global village.
Also with more and more men not being chained to the physical location with remote work options greatly accelerated by covid (when even the average non-tech Joe was forced all of the sudden to work remotely and now the precedent was set) and bad / expensive local pussy market, more and more will choose Colombia for extended periods of time.
Plus there are favorable cost of living factors, and the weather.
Through fact that nobody speaks English here and all the drugging and robbery might be stopping the wave a bit.
End of Centro? Probably not. Will it be getting better? Probably not either.
Many girls choose Centro because although Poblado has bigger pay, it's very irregular. And bills and hunger are quite regular (and we all know their financial saving skills).
SMH. Three times I went to Senior Frog's with one, two, and three women in tow. I was not serious with any of them at the time. SF's has funny signs they put up behind their customers. Three times they put the sign sugar daddy behind me, and three times, they were right.
When I kissed my much younger GF goodbye, a cab driver told me, "You have a pretty GF" which again was on target.
You can insert your personal insult like you always do here, but the point is these people correctly knew what kind of relationships I had just from the vibes the women and I gave off.
And so if you went to Senior Frog's the sign would read "In a Biblical relationship" versus "sugardaddy"?
Yeah, you would think that.Pixar needs to make a Buzz Lightyear spinoff movie about your abject stupidity. They've already got the catch phrase, because "to infinity and beyond" perfectly describes your ignorance. It's truly boundless.
Last summer, in the Midwestern United States, heart of the Bible Belt, in a conservative small town, in a conservative state, I took a girl from Colombia into an empty barbecue restaurant. The girl is 40 years younger than me. She was in the bathroom when the 65-70 year old waitress brought our food. The waitress said, in English, "your girlfriend is very beautiful. " I posted about it last year.
That means exactly nothing. Another woman, a greeter at Wal-Mart, glared at us when we walked in. There are about 8 billion people on this planet. One person making a statement doesn't control worldwide opinions.
Senor Frog's is a party place. The signs are to get laughs. If an older gringo enters with 1, 2, 3 or 34 young locals, about the only sign they could hold up to get a laugh is "Sugar Daddy. " "Gringo with Putas" might make some people angry.
Same with the taxi driver. What's he going to say? "I like your hooker?" "Does she do anal?" "Think she'll do a threesome with me and you?" If he says anything at all (and most won't say anything at all), his options are limited, plus the limitations of his English.
It's both fun and frustrating making a fool of you. It's fun, because like your stupidity, there is no end to the opportunities. It's frustrating because you can't grasp anything that you have previously written and connect it to any reply, as illustrated here:
GF and wife have positive societal connotations, and you all know that and that is why you want to use them. If you have a woman who you call GF and she says that she does not mind you fucking other women, that just means the two of you have gotten together and tried to redefine its meaning. Show me one mainstream source that says it is okay to have a GF and fuck hookers on the side.You asked for a source, I gave you a source. In the US these days, it doesn't get more mainstream than the Bible. If Hefner was still alive, I could have used Playboy as another.
If you had the capacity to grasp something so simple, there were dozens of possible responses. Instead, with your miniscule understanding of everything, you decided that:
1. I would have any interest in taking my girl to Senor Frog's.
2. At Senor Frog's they would hold a sign over my head.
3. The staff at Senor Frog's would intuitively know that I occasionally will fuck other women.
4. The staff at Senor Frog's will then translate that intuition into "Biblical relationship. ".
I think your name needs to change from Elvis to Elvisn't. As in "it's really fucking simple, but Elv Isn't able to understand it. ".
You parade around all superior to others for getting laid without paying for it when you are paying with time. You are oblivious to the fact that for other guys the reason they pay is that it is cheaper than wooing a woman like you do because for them time equals money. Do you get time equals money is something that is true for a "grown man" not a 10 year old? Again, here you go parading around all superior while you are being immature.Simple things for simple minds. "Time is money" applies to everyone, because everyone has a limited amount of it and almost everyone wants more of it.
The simplistic, 10 year old view is that time is money, because you could be using the time to make money. The adult view is that time spent making money is a necessary waste of time. I enjoy what I do to make money, but I'd rather spend the time wooing, or fucking women. And if I feel like wooing a woman, then just finding a hooker is time wasted.
I said you are not financially or emotionally committed. You and JJBee are off spending your time and money on other women and care about pleasing them more than your "girlfriends".What you said is that for a real relationship it needs to only be about money. Granted, you change what you say more often than most people change their underwear. So, from your most recently stated position, being emotionally committed means it's not a relationship.
I spend my money on many things. It's mine. I earned it. Daddy didn't give it to me. My girlfriend has no say on how I spend it. If she is busy doing other things and I feel like fucking someone else, it's my penis. She doesn't control that either. If I take the other girl to dinner, I'm spending my time, which is mine alone, my money, which is mine alone, to fuck with my penis, which is mine alone.
For the record, whenever I'm with a hooker, I care about pleasing myself. When I'm with a woman, who isn't a hooker, I care about pleasing both, or all 3 of us. I don't worry about pleasing someone who isn't in the bed.
Truth is when you and JJBee parade around with the term GF, all you are doing is showing everyone you are arrogant POS liars. He has a sugar baby and you have a friend with benefits, and everyone knows it.Parade around? If I'm going to be parading around I want a fucking marching band. Nobody is parading around. For some unknown reason a few brainless, psychotic twits on ISG are obsessed with the fact that I have a girlfriend. The other 99.999% don't give a flying fuck. Why it's become the focal point of your life is a mystery to me. You waddle around and care more about discussing my relationships than about pleasing your own girlfriend. Talk about wasting time.
LoveItHere
10-10-23, 19:06
The thing is, this is all made up in your head, both the number and the assessment. People find the girls less attractive simply bcos they get used to them. They are just not blown away by the false positive emotion they felt the first time.
As for AC, I always thought the quality of girls was prett low. Wanting bikinis, well that's just your own subjective preference. Not mine. Not the majority. Cheap girls you can still find down the far end or outside of the big clubs. Its only ruined if you allow it be that way in your mind.Strange. The foreigners and locals I spoke with have all agreed with me. Obviously you have not been reading the posts here that verify my assessment that the quality in street girls, spas / casa, and Lleras / Pobaldo are all down.
Naked is best but illegal in AC. Bikinis are preferred to see if there is hidden baby damage and to be sure bras or dress breast area are not padded and see if she really in thin or hiding her fat body in baggy clothes. You need to look at Score Birds pool parties from the first 2 years and then watch the last 2-5 years so you know what the hell you are talking about. Still they do not do justice to the girls that were there before that.
Strange. The foreigners and locals I spoke with have all agreed with me. the quality in street girls, spas / casa, and Lleras / Pobado are all down..Obv some people agree w you but I put it to you that's its a biased sample. People that agree w you would comment to you. But likewise I see many comments from newbies to Colombia that the women are stunning. It odd don't you think, that there is no country in the world where mongers would say the standard of girls is getting higher. Not even spain or usa, where these millions of beautiful chicas have sposdely gone to.
LoveItHere
10-11-23, 06:12
But likewise I see many comments from newbies to Colombia that the women are stunning. It odd don't you think, that there is no country in the world where mongers would say the standard of girls is getting higher. Not even spain or usa, where these millions of beautiful chicas have sposdely gone to.Newbies do not know the before and after. They never saw the girls from 2+ years ago to compare against the girls available today. Simplified newbies do not know % at! If I was a newbie I would be thrilled to death too.
Some of the hot girls disappeared through food. Food globalism from the USA fast food and junk food are making huge percentages of the girls fat now. I used to see thin girls all over the Philippines and slowly watched them fatten up. Look at how fat kids are in Western countries. There were not that many fat kids in my classes when I was growing up.
Many Western countries are marrying overseas girls and is increasing every day. Nobody wants the Western attitude "I do not need a man" woman.
The incomes of many countries are increasing so the need to offer sex is not as large as before and countless other reasons.
Newbies do not know the before and after.
Some of the hot girls disappeared through food.
Many Western countries are marrying overseas girls and is increasing every day.
The incomes of many countries are increasing .I never said newbies would know the before and after. I simply said they often find the women stunning, and this supports my overall claim.
Agreed that obesity is a problem worldwide but not at 5% per year. And it effects young people less, and the physically active sex workers less. Plus some guys prefer girls w some flesh. And very few girls turn from stunners to obese and unacceptable. Often its the puglies anyway.
Marrying- this is normal in the career of anyone. Its nothing new.
Incomes increase, so do costs. It has nothing to do with the percieved beauty of the people.
Strange. The foreigners and locals I spoke with have all agreed with me. Obviously you have not been reading the posts here that verify my assessment that the quality in street girls, spas / casa, and Lleras / Pobaldo are all down.
t.Do you remember the first time someone bought you a box of assorted flavour xhocolates? It was quite amazing hey? All those great flavours to try out. What a great present!
But by the 4th or 5th time many folks will be thinking, oh no, not more choclates! Can't they offer me smthg else? Boring!
Obv some people agree w you but I put it to you that's its a biased sample. People that agree w you would comment to you. But likewise I see many comments from newbies to Colombia that the women are stunning. It odd don't you think, that there is no country in the world where mongers would say the standard of girls is getting higher. Not even spain or usa, where these millions of beautiful chicas have sposdely gone to.In Colombia almost everyone will agree with you. It's one of the things in the culture, they hate directly contradicting anyone. It can be maddening because someone agrees to meet at a certain time, or do a certain thing, but it never happens.
Let's get back to basics:
Man law 101
No real man is telling another real man how to spend his hard earned money or who to fuck.
Pussy is Pussy
All you need to do is go to a few different countries fuck the girls there to realize this. Now if you are the type of person that gets hung up on the pussy life support system, if you like it then I love it.
I have girlfriends in three different countries. I help them all out with money. And because they are my girlfriends I talk to them. I do not talk to prostitutes, I give them money to gain access to their mouth, pussy and ass without have to do that. And I am not going to let anyone hear on ISG or anyone that actually exists in real life to define my relationships for me.
Only wage slaves believe that time is money. I am an emancipated wage slave so I know this personally. Those who are financially literate know money is money. And you use money to make more money, not your time. Because your time is limited. Everyone gets the same 24 hours in a day, no matter how much or how little money that they have.
In Colombia almost everyone will agree with you. It's one of the things in the culture, they hate directly contradicting anyone. It can be maddening because someone agrees to meet at a certain time, or do a certain thing, but it never happens.A little further on this so others can better understand what your saying is that Colombians try to avoid confrontation, so instead of being blunt or speaking their minds, they will say one thing to avoid confrontation and do something else which is hard to accept and something you cannot really change when dealing with Colombians which I struggle with at times.
Another cultural item here which I find maddening in step with what you have brought up is communication.
Typically they will say they will meet at a certain time whether they can make it or not, and then when they don't make it, they don't even contact you to tell you there not going to make it or advise you if they are going to be late.
This is probably one of my biggest frustrations dealing with Colombians, and for them, it's totally normal in their culture.
And probably the biggest frustration mongers have here myself included.
On many occasions over the years I have had to discipline some Chicas for showing up late by giving them a deadline to arrive, and if not blow them off, and typically after they miss a payday, they become more punctual.
Pursuing regular girls is a lot of work. Forget the time is money excuse people are using. We are lazy. It's like exercise. People always say they don't have time to exercise. That's a lie. We all have 10 minutes before bed to do sit-ups pushups and jumping jacks. The reason we don't do it, is because we hate exercise. I didn't start mongering until my 30's, and if I had to go back in time, I would have started at 18. LOL.
A little further on this so others can better understand what your saying is that Colombians try to avoid confrontation, so instead of being blunt or speaking their minds, they will say one thing to avoid confrontation and do something else which is hard to accept and something you cannot really change when dealing with Colombians which I struggle with at times.
Another cultural item here which I find maddening in step with what you have brought up is communication.
Typically they will say they will meet at a certain time whether they can make it or not, and then when they don't make it, they don't even contact you to tell you there not going to make it or advise you if they are going to be late.
This is probably one of my biggest frustrations dealing with Colombians, and for them, it's totally normal in their culture.
And probably the biggest frustration mongers have here myself included.
On many occasions over the years I have had to discipline some Chicas for showing up late by giving them a deadline to arrive, and if not blow them off, and typically after they miss a payday, they become more punctual.I love Colombians. All of them excerpt the mean rolos. 2 things I don't like about the culture is when you ask for the check at a restaurant hey only bring the receipt and then they leave for 3 hours and don't bring the dataphono so you can pay. It's like broski I said bring the check so I can pay not so I could admire it.
And the other thing is when you go to the store like a clothing store and you're just there to look at things. The girl ornguy whi works st the store just follows you sround and looks at you while you look at the items. Its like broski can inlook at the items in piece I dint need your helo and I'm not going to steal anything.
Aside from that I love paisas. The tardiness thikg is kinda whack too tbh but I learned that when you tell then be somewhere at 4 to them it means ok got it ill leave my house at 4. So I judt tell them to come an hour before were supposed to meet and I get there on time and it works. And if they are early, in another timeline they wouldve been late LOL.
If you are dealing with online girls visiting you, some have mentioned that they tend to be late. If you tell her to meet you at 8 pm, she may show up at 9 pm or later. Very rarely will she show up at 8 pm but if she gets there before 8:30 pm, it's like she's on time. Someone mentioned a technique that I have been using, setting the date an hour earlier than you want and then chances are that she will show when you actually want. So if you want her to show up at 8 pm, ask her to meet you at 7 pm and it is likely that she will show up closer to 8 pm. Now, every once in a while, a girl screws everything up and actually shows up on time, but that is only once in a while.
Some may say it is rude but it is more that time is very casual here and the girls treat these meetings as social events even though it is really a business transaction.
Now, I do get girls who are very late, and I just tell them it is too late for me and cancel the date if they have not left yet and it is already one hour past. Usually they beg you to change your mind, and then they actually make more of an effort to get going.
Elvis 2008
10-14-23, 03:27
What you said is that for a real relationship it needs to only be about money. Granted, you change what you say more often than most people change their underwear. So, from your most recently stated position, being emotionally committed means it's not a relationship.
I spend my money on many things. It's mine. I earned it. Daddy didn't give it to me. My girlfriend has no say on how I spend it. If she is busy doing other things and I feel like fucking someone else, it's my penis. She doesn't control that either. If I take the other girl to dinner, I'm spending my time, which is mine alone, my money, which is mine alone, to fuck with my penis, which is mine alone..I love how you Medellin morons make the definition of girlfriend and sugar baby / daddy personal definitions when they are societal ones. It is very convenient for you when you all are bullshitting yourselves. Of course, the definitions are not mine. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0731121419875115.
Sugar dating was the most common type of sugar relationship as 31 percent of participants had this type of arrangement. Those involved in sugar dating engaged in a variety of activities with their benefactor including going out to dinner, getting drinks, attending work events, and traveling. Sexual interactions were also a predominant part of the interpersonal relationship script of sugar daters.
One of the most important characteristics of the sugar dating interpersonal relationship script was the expectation for benefactors to provide gifts and monetary benefits to female recipients. The monetary arrangements involved in sugar dating did not follow the "pay-for-play" format that is typically seen with prostitution. Consistent with the general subcultural sugar relationship script, I found that most participants emphasized having some sort of emotional connection and / or genuine liking for their benefactor.
The lives of sugar daters and their benefactors were not usually intertwined, as women typically preferred to keep their sugar relationships separate from their other, more conventional social roles. This stemmed from the general subcultural sugar relationship script that involved the expectation that both parties create and maintain an arrangement that was NSA. This meant that sugar partners were not expected to form committed or monogamous relationships with one another. In fact, most sugar dating relationships were nonmonogamous.
End of link.
So while sugar relationships pretty much default to nonomogamous, the GF / BF ones go the other way. The most common area this rears its ugly head is when a guy founds out his GF has a SD.
Almost all the advice given is to dump the girl when that happens because she is not committed to the guy.
https://dearwendy.com/the-girl-im-dating-is-on-vacation-with-her-sugar-daddy/
https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=6274530
I don't care what you all do. I just think it so funny how you Medellin morons swear up and down you are not sugar daddies when you obviously are.
I love how you Medellin morons make the definition of girlfriend and sugar baby / daddy personal definitions when they are societal ones. It is very convenient for you when you all are bullshitting yourselves.You are the mother fucking bullshitter and you have been polluting this thread by talking a lot of shit and practicing what you preach since I have been posting about Colombia. Men in general are not monogamous nor are girls. In nearly all types of relationships men and girl enter into monogamy is the standard but not the practice. What many men do is practice non-ethical non-monogamy. I practice ethical non-monogamy.
The problem is that you (any many others of your type) want to take the ideas of your cultural background (you know the original pussy colonizers) and apply them to cultures where they do not apply or accept them. That makes you an International Moron and the dumbest of the dumb mother fuckers. Because you are posting about monogamy in a country where girls except that they are not going to get it from even their husbands. They may not like it but the majority of them make the trade off in order to get the financial security that come with the societal institution of marriage.
I don't care what you all do. I just think it so funny how you Medellin morons swear up and down you are not sugar daddies when you obviously are.But you do. You want to force your views down the throats of others by engaging in personal attacks. Read Man Law 101 you DMF!.
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fevo.2019.00230/full
https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/health-wellness/2023/09/18/what-is-modern-monogamy-how-its-saving-some-long-term-relationships/70824743007/
"Most male mammals do not look after their offspring; humans are an exception in this respect. Like most mammals, humans are not strictly monogamic. A tendency to social monogamy has evolved, however, and is subject to strong reinforcement by cultural factors, particularly religion".
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12685340/
Yes, I can google and post links too. But I am not making the same logical fallacies are you are. Namely: Appeal to authority. Everyone fuck this dumb mother fucker with the handle of Elvis. Just DOWHATCHA like!
JohnnieCash
10-17-23, 02:20
...monogamy..."Sex at Dawn: How We Mate, Why We Stray, and What It Means for Modern Relationships" is pretty interesting and entertaining read on the topic.
Eg there is tribe that practices a group insemination, all men have sex with a woman publicly so the father is unknown by design, and the child will have many father-uncles to rely on.
If I remember correctly there are also explained biological defaults of the women -- basically fuck as many men as possible preferably one after another (and scream loud while being fucked to advertise readiness to other males), and let the best sperm win (which is why part of the semen is actually spermicide and shape of the penis evolved to clean out the pervious male semen).
Mosuo culture in China practices interesting arrangement today as well:
Mosuo culture the men and women have the ability to make love anytime and with anybody. Mosuo men and women are free to have multiple partners, and to initiate or break off relationships when they want.
Usually In the Mosuo culture when the girl reached age 13 - 14 or when she became mature, she will get her own bedroom. The special thing about this bedroom that it has two doors. One will open to the entire house and the second door will open to the street. This room to have a privacy and freedom to have sex.
Mosuo women they dont get worried if they got pregnant because the uncle, brother and mother will take care of the child. Usually they don't know who's the father and most of the father have no responsibility to raise a child.
You are the mother fucking bullshitter and you have been polluting this thread by talking a lot of shit and practicing what you preach since I have been posting about Colombia. Men in general are not monogamous nor are girls. In nearly all types of relationships men and girl enter into monogamy is the standard but not the practice. What many men do is practice non-ethical non-monogamy. I practice ethical non-monogamy.
The problem is that you (any many others of your type) want to take the ideas of your cultural background (you know the original pussy colonizers) and apply them to cultures where they do not apply or accept them. That makes you an International Moron and the dumbest of the dumb mother fuckers. Because you are posting about monogamy in a country where girls except that they are not going to get it from even their husbands. They may not like it but the majority of them make the trade off in order to get the financial security that come with the societal institution of marriage.
But you do. You want to force your views down the throats of others by engaging in personal attacks. Read Man Law 101 you DMF!.
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fevo.2019.00230/full
https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/health-wellness/2023/09/18/what-is-modern-monogamy-how-its-saving-some-long-term-relationships/70824743007/
"Most male mammals do not look after their offspring; humans are an exception in this respect. Like most mammals, humans are not strictly monogamic. A tendency to social monogamy has evolved, however, and is subject to strong reinforcement by cultural factors, particularly religion".
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12685340/
Yes, I can google and post links too. But I am not making the same logical fallacies are you are. Namely: Appeal to authority. Everyone fuck this dumb mother fucker with the handle of Elvis. Just DOWHATCHA like!Fuertes declaraciones sub-zero. You obviously don't know shit about you are talking about and have demonstratated that in your posts. Just today in the main Medellin thread you advised people to use money exchanges over atms and to not worry if they lose $50 usd because they already paid for their passports and plane tickets.
You're a real piece of work with your stupid ass quotes like "pussy is pussy"and "how you like me now".
Elvis has more expertise about Colombia than you will ever have. So do us all a favor and just stop posting unless if you actually have something valuable to contribute because all the shit talking is just annoying.
"Sex at Dawn: How We Mate, Why We Stray, and What It Means for Modern Relationships" is pretty interesting and entertaining read on the topic.
Eg there is tribe that practices a group insemination, all men have sex with a woman publicly so the father is unknown by design, and the child will have many father-uncles to rely on.
If I remember correctly there are also explained biological defaults of the women -- basically fuck as many men as possible preferably one after another (and scream loud while being fucked to advertise readiness to other males), and let the best sperm win (which is why part of the semen is actually spermicide and shape of the penis evolved to clean out the pervious male semen).
Mosuo culture in China practices interesting arrangement today as well:
Mosuo culture the men and women have the ability to make love anytime and with anybody. Mosuo men and women are free to have multiple partners, and to initiate or break off relationships when they want.
Usually In the Mosuo culture when the girl reached age 13 - 14 or when she became mature, she will get her own bedroom. The special thing about this bedroom that it has two doors. One will open to the entire house and the second door will open to the street. This room to have a privacy and freedom to have sex.
Mosuo women they dont get worried if they got pregnant because the uncle, brother and mother will take care of the child. Usually they don't know who's the father and most of the father have no responsibility to raise a child.On a somewhat related note, there's some interesting notes in sexual mores of the Native American tribes encountered by the Lewis and Clark Expedition.
Many of the tribes offered their women to the members of the expedition, with the men vying to get the strongest men to have sex with their wives. In particular demand was York, the black slave owned by William Clark.
Something else of interest, at least to me, in "Experiment in Autobiography", H. G. Wells wrote about a practice in Victorian England which he encountered. For those who don't know, during the reign of Queen Victoria sexuality was repressed. No sex before marriage, no sex except for the purpose of procreation, no public displays, even words like breast were considered taboo.
It's been a long time, so I might not get this exactly correct. Wells, as a young man was boarding at a house. There was also a single woman boarding at the same house. During a certain time, once per week, they were encouraged to engage in sexual play (without having sex) with each other. As in many other things, Wells was quite the rebel when it came to sex. It's an interesting insight into the waning years of the 19th century and the beginning of the 20th.
Here's something closer to our time. Thanks to a wild uncle who wrote a lot of letters to his girlfriend and later wife (who kept them all), and their storage in what was my bedroom for 9 months, I'm well informed about the practice of swinging dating back to the mid 1950's. More recently, between 1997 and 2010 I was a frequent participant in swinging groups, clubs and parties, with a few different girlfriends.
While it's not publicly acceptable, it's privately quite popular. From small Bible belt towns to big liberal cities, it's going on all the time. Wife swapping, orgies, gang bangs, threesomes and much more, are all happening right around the corner.
I've met cops, teachers, preachers, lawyers, and people from all types of backgrounds happily exploring alternatives to basic monogamy. All too often, the people condemning such practices get caught literally with their pants down, doing all the things they preach against.
I love how you Medellin morons make the definition of girlfriend and sugar baby / daddy personal definitions when they are societal ones. It is very convenient for you when you all are bullshitting yourselves. Of course, the definitions are not mine. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0731121419875115.
Sugar dating was the most common type of sugar relationship as 31 percent of participants had this type of arrangement. Those involved in sugar dating engaged in a variety of activities with their benefactor including going out to dinner, getting drinks, attending work events, and traveling. Sexual interactions were also a predominant part of the interpersonal relationship script of sugar daters.
One of the most important characteristics of the sugar dating interpersonal relationship script was the expectation for benefactors to provide gifts and monetary benefits to female recipients. The monetary arrangements involved in sugar dating did not follow the "pay-for-play" format that is typically seen with prostitution. Consistent with the general subcultural sugar relationship script, I found that most participants emphasized having some sort of emotional connection and / or genuine liking for their benefactor.
The lives of sugar daters and their benefactors were not usually intertwined, as women typically preferred to keep their sugar relationships separate from their other, more conventional social roles. This stemmed from the general subcultural sugar relationship script that involved the expectation that both parties create and maintain an arrangement that was NSA. This meant that sugar partners were not expected to form committed or monogamous relationships with one another. In fact, most sugar dating relationships were nonmonogamous.
End of link.
So while sugar relationships pretty much default to nonomogamous, the GF / BF ones go the other way. The most common area this rears its ugly head is when a guy founds out his GF has a SD.
Almost all the advice given is to dump the girl when that happens because she is not committed to the guy.
https://dearwendy.com/the-girl-im-dating-is-on-vacation-with-her-sugar-daddy/
https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=6274530
I don't care what you all do. I just think it so funny how you Medellin morons swear up and down you are not sugar daddies when you obviously are.Why do you speak of plurals when you're addressing 1 person? "Medellin morons", "when you are all" only apply when talking to more than 1 person. Who are these other people? I seem to be the only 1 posting on the subject. Is this like my fictitious "crew?
There are many people on this board who live in Medellin, or who spend up to 6 months per year there. Are you saying they are all morons? Other than 2017-2018, when I was there for almost 1 year straight, I've never spent more than 5 weeks per year in Medellin. This year, it was less than 2 weeks.
BTW, have you considered using a Thesaurus? The only insult you can come up with is "Medellin morons", and you use it multiple times in practically every post. A lack of creativity and inventiveness is a sure sign of low cognitive function, not that you don't already exhibit dozens of other sure signs.
Instead of pointing out your deficiencies, I'll just ask 1 question, which you will be incapable of answering. I can say this with 100% certainty because I've asked you 100's of questions and you've never been able to answer a single one.
The question is about your last paragraph. To paraphrase, after changing it from the obviously incorrect plural to singular, you say I'm swearing I'm not a sugar daddy when I obviously am a sugar daddy.
I haven't sworn to anything, I think since 1994, when I had to testify in court. I'm not even insisting that I'm not a sugar daddy. I've merely stated that I have a girlfriend.
The question is a simple one.
What is it about my relationship which makes it obvious that it's a sugar daddy, sugar baby relationship?
I'll wait patiently for you to go off in some obscure direction, quote completely unheard of sources and refer to mysterious groups of people without attempting to address the question.
All the sudden, now that the election is getting close, EPM has put all these new plastic garbage containers that look like little dumpsters all over these estrato 1 Barrios.
I've been living here in the barrio for like a year and a half and I have never seen these garbage containers before now (they appeared like 2 weeks ago). It used to be people would just pile their trash bags in designated spots on trash pick up days.
I wonder if it's just a last ditch effort to get more votes for the Upegui campaign as he is the extension of Quintero and the status quo. I say fuck Upegui and Quinteros people for putting up those barriers around botero plaza. Hopefully after Fico Gutierrez wins the election, those stupid barriers will be coming down.
Gabacho, You ignorant punter! (A play off of SNL back in the day).
I'll add you to the dumbest of the dumb mother fuckers list who have zero ability to comprehend English. And I bet you are an original pussy colonizer that has a problem when anyone who does not look like you gets into the game. Elvis is an idiot who posts more in the Stupid shit in Medellin than actually contributing usable intelligence for the use of others in the Colombia thread.
Proof that you cannot read that well is that I did not advise anyone to use money exchanges over ATMs. I told people not to be penny wise and pound foolish. I don't go to Medellin to find pussy. I do business there. I keep a residence there. So I will defer to you and the other dumbest of the dumb mother fuckers on how to find pussy in Medellin. Honestly I do not need yours or anyone else help. In any city known for prostitution (Medellin, Sosua, Pattaya) I am surprised that individuals need help with the "Where the hos at?" question.. Because I have been to make successful first time trips to each of these cities successfully without any help from individuals or post off of ISG. So, maybe I don't need to know about Colombia. Maybe I just need to know how to find dem hos. And I know how to do that shit! Do you?
You are free to disagree with me but until you are the administrator of this site the only option you have to not read my posts is to put me on ignore. Goto the FAQ section for further information about that issue.
PUSSY IS PUSSY!
How you like me now?
Fuertes declaraciones sub-zero. You obviously don't know shit about you are talking about and have demonstratated that in your posts. Just today in the main Medellin thread you advised people to use money exchanges over atms and to not worry if they lose $50 usd because they already paid for their passports and plane tickets.
You're a real piece of work with your stupid ass quotes like "pussy is pussy"and "how you like me now".
Elvis has more expertise about Colombia than you will ever have. So do us all a favor and just stop posting unless if you actually have something valuable to contribute because all the shit talking is just annoying.Let me know the next time you are in Medellin. Would enjoy meeting another ISG brother. Let's see if you keep it as real in a face to face meeting as you do hiding behind your keyboard.
JohnnieCash
10-17-23, 17:12
On a somewhat related note, there's some interesting notes in sexual mores of the Native American tribes encountered by the Lewis and Clark Expedition.
Many of the tribes offered their women to the members of the expedition, with the men vying to get the strongest men to have sex with their wives. In particular demand was York, the black slave owned by William Clark.Values clearly more in line with biological realities. Stronger genes, stronger offspring, better chance of survival of the group and a child less of burden. All that ownership-monogamy things is relatively modern invention, we evolved living in small groups of nomadic hunter-gatherers (with sex freely shared and used as group boding mechanism) and since the switch to agrarian lifestyle are in constant cultural / internal conflict with our bodies and natural desires. Well in most of the West at least. Lat Am seem to have kept the original relaxed attitude towards monogamy.
...During a certain time, once per week, they were encouraged to engage in sexual play (without having sex) with each other. Interesting considering all the anti masturbation (or 'self-abuse') movement in US at the turn of the century.
One of the leaders, the influential Dr Kellogg advocated circumcision of young boys without anesthetic and the application of acid to the clitorises of young girls, in order to discourage that 'sin'.
"It is important to perform surgery without using any anesthetic so that pain during an operation may affect the mind. ".
If not mistaken he performed several such operations himself. Well, enjoy your cornflakes folks, if you listen closely to the way they crunch you might be able to hear the screams of the children.
On another note, a lot of that repressed Victorian sexuality seems to have been put in their furniture, just look at all of those fancy shiny bulbous curves, lots of sexy sofas and armchairs.
Elvis 2008
10-17-23, 19:59
Why do you speak of plurals when you're addressing 1 person? "Medellin morons", "when you are all" only apply when talking to more than 1 person. Who are these other people? I seem to be the only 1 posting on the subject. Is this like my fictitious "crew?
There are many people on this board who live in Medellin, or who spend up to 6 months per year there. Are you saying they are all morons? Other than 2017-2018, when I was there for almost 1 year straight, I've never spent more than 5 weeks per year in Medellin. This year, it was less than 2 weeks.
BTW, have you considered using a Thesaurus? The only insult you can come up with is "Medellin morons", and you use it multiple times in practically every post. A lack of creativity and inventiveness is a sure sign of low cognitive function, not that you don't already exhibit dozens of other sure signs.
Instead of pointing out your deficiencies, I'll just ask 1 question, which you will be incapable of answering. I can say this with 100% certainty because I've asked you 100's of questions and you've never been able to answer a single one.
The question is about your last paragraph. To paraphrase, after changing it from the obviously incorrect plural to singular, you say I'm swearing I'm not a sugar daddy when I obviously am a sugar daddy.I have a question for you. Did you get off after all that mental masturbation?
I've merely stated that I have a girlfriend.
The question is a simple one.
What is it about my relationship which makes it obvious that it's a sugar daddy, sugar baby relationship?Gee, I don't know. Maybe because a professor of sociology has described to the tee exactly what kind of relationship you have.
I'll wait patiently for you to go off in some obscure direction, quote completely unheard of sources and refer to mysterious groups of people without attempting to address the question.And this is what makes you a Medellin moron. I don't like what this professor of sociology says so I am going to demean it.
And being a Medellin moron you ignore all the social market scores that are negative towards you but brag about the ones that fit you. She is 20 and from estrato 4 but I am not going to give her a 1 to 10 score on looks.
And you pretend that you are not causing a decline in her social market value with you actions. When you are done with her or more likely when she sees you for what you are, you will just pretend that her seeing some 60 year old with a "my dick, my way" attitude and fucking hookers on the side does not diminish her in the eyes of other men.
If you imagined yourself as this woman's father as opposed to the sugar daddy you are, what would you think of a man like you going out with your daughter? I can laugh because I know your answer would be that you would be fine with it.
But then again you are the guy who lectured everyone on Covid, got it, did not recognize the symptoms, swore you did not have any even being in a hospital prior to going to Colombia, and then got on a plane to Colombia and spread it all around the country before testing +. But just like having a daughter whose boyfriend is fucking around on her, it was fine. I almost envy your delusion.
Elvis 2008
10-17-23, 20:07
You are the mother fucking bullshitter and you have been polluting this thread by talking a lot of shit and practicing what you preach since I have been posting about Colombia. Men in general are not monogamous nor are girls. In nearly all types of relationships men and girl enter into monogamy is the standard but not the practice. What many men do is practice non-ethical non-monogamy. I practice ethical non-monogamy.
Because you are posting about monogamy in a country where girls except that they are not going to get it from even their husbands. They may not like it but the majority of them make the trade off in order to get the financial security that come with the societal institution of marriage.I would be hard pressed to find anyone trying to make themselves look smart and saying things this stupid. You have GFs and are actively fucking hookers on the side and call yourself an "ethical boyfriend".
And then you make this ridiculous comment about Colombian women and monogamy. Obviously, you have not meant any Colombian women who are not hookers nor Colombian fathers who would die before letting their daughters sell themselves for a buck.
Congratulations, you have now exhibited the delusion necessary to be in the Medellin mooron club.
Gabacho, You ignorant punter! (A play off of SNL back in the day).
I'll add you to the dumbest of the dumb mother fuckers list who have zero ability to comprehend English. And I bet you are an original pussy colonizer that has a problem when anyone who does not look like you gets into the game. Elvis is an idiot who posts more in the Stupid shit in Medellin than actually contributing usable intelligence for the use of others in the Colombia thread.
Proof that you cannot read that well is that I did not advise anyone to use money exchanges over ATMs. I told people not to be penny wise and pound foolish. I don't go to Medellin to find pussy. I do business there. I keep a residence there. So I will defer to you and the other dumbest of the dumb mother fuckers on how to find pussy in Medellin. Honestly I do not need yours or anyone else help. In any city known for prostitution (Medellin, Sosua, Pattaya) I am surprised that individuals need help with the "Where the hos at?" question.. Because I have been to make successful first time trips to each of these cities successfully without any help from individuals or post off of ISG. So, maybe I don't need to know about Colombia. Maybe I just need to know how to find dem hos. And I know how to do that shit! Do you?
You are free to disagree with me but until you are the administrator of this site the only option you have to not read my posts is to put me on ignore. Goto the FAQ section for further information about that issue.
PUSSY IS PUSSY!
How you like me now?
Let me know the next time you are in Medellin. Would enjoy meeting another ISG brother. Let's see if you keep it as real in a face to face meeting as you do hiding behind your keyboard.I'm in Medellin right now you dumbass. I've been here since August and I'm staying until February. Anyways you talk about English compression but yet you're posting run on sentences, spelling the word "hoes" incorrectly, and repeating the same stupid shit over and over. By the way you don't start a sentence with the word "and" LOL. Also what the fuck is an original pussy colonizer and why do you think I am one?
I'll meet you anytime you want, maybe you got more balls than MiamiBoy and want to meet at Exito Aranjuez?? It not near where I live but it's a half way point between my barrio and Centro. Anyways you're right I'm not an admin, go ahead and post your stupid shit. Atleast it's in the right forum LOL.
Chao loser.
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