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Paraco Bob
03-03-09, 23:47
Over the last few days the mafia in Medellin has been handing out pamphlets saying they plan on killing anyone out on the streets after 10:00pm. They specifically mention they will kill prostitutes and their clients.

Obviously this shit will not happen in areas like Poblado but all you poor whitetrash who think Majorista is the place to be might soon find a bullet in your head.

I think we need to start a death-pool. My bets are on that Frank guy who is pimping down in Majorista. As several people on this forum have pointed out it is only a matter of time until the locals get tired of the gringo trash in Medellin. That time has come.

Here is the full article:

A pamphlet, spread in a large number of Medellín neighborhoods, threatens its authors will soon carry out a social cleansing of call-girls, strippers, prostitutes and their clients and imposed a 10PM curfew on people in certain neighborhoods.

The warning, that began to be circulated in the poor neighborhood of Moravia on Thursday, later appeared in many other neighborhoods in different parts of Colombia's second largest city. So far, people from eight neighborhoods on both the east, northeast, west and northwest of the city, confirmed having received the pamphlets.

The letter, signed by a previously unknown group called Ogdis, warns parents not to let their children on the street after 10 PM, because the group "will not take responsibility if innocent people die". People found in strip-clubs or places where there are prostitutes after 10PM "are lowlifes and bad men" and will be socially cleansed too, the group writes.

The group specifically focuses its threats on call-girls and prostitutes because they "have infected many with AIDS. "

The pamphlet announces the group will start its social cleansing "very soon" and apologizes "to society if innocent people die. "

The announcement of the upcoming social cleansing came one day after local authorities announced rigid security measures to curb soaring violence and because of the upcoming summit of the Inter-American Development Bank that will be held in Medellín from March 27 until March 31.

Medellín has seen a sharp rise in murders after the extradition of bosses of the demobilized AUC. Rumors say the 'Aguilas Negras', a group allegedly aligned with assumed drug lord Don Mario, has been violently taking control of neighborhoods that were previously under control of the Convivir, a collection of militias that collaborated with authorities, and the so-called Office of Envigado, that consists of former members of the AUC.

Frank Casio
03-04-09, 01:16
Over the last few days the mafia in Medellin has been handing out pamphlets saying they plan on killing anyone out on the streets after 10:00pm. They specifically mention they will kill prostitutes and their clients.Little hard to believe, considering the Mafia lives of the "drugs" that the prostitutes and their clients consume. It must be a new "marketting tool" to kill of your clientele! But then what do I know, I just live here!

Heard about the pamphlet in El Centro! Hate to break it to you Paraco Bob, but there is more police presence in El Centro and La Mayorista than anywhere in El poblado! The last time some "goody too shoes" handed pamphlets like that in Cartagena or Barranquilla, can't remember the exact city, the whole lot of them got their ass rolled off to Jail, and they were'nt the "Mafia" trying to kill off their own clients, just a group of "vigilantes" trying to scare of business!

Frank Casio!

Angryant
03-04-09, 02:57
So, I checked out reports of the pamphlet on PBH and ColombiaBlog. The report is legit. The pamphlet exists and has been around (at least first reported) for a week or so.

Any thoughts? I'm going soon and planning on going to clubs both pro and nonpro. I could live w/o nighttime sgs from poorer barrios, but the question is.- Am I pushing my luck? I mean, none of the strip clubs are in nice areas.

Anyone been out in the past couple of days to see if this is affecting activity at the clubs? I would think the girls would know better than the gringos if this was serious.

Ahh the timing. Aa.

Phunluv
03-04-09, 05:29
I've read about this social cleansing in some non-monger Colombia forums. I'm sure there's some of this going on, but I wonder if it'll go beyond the poorer neighborhoods into areas that gringo mongers haunt. The line about AIDS sounds like bs, this is about turf battles and asserting control over an area.

But if there's any place that needs social cleansing it's probably Centro, LOL! I know some guys here have praised Centro, but I personally wouldn't hang there after dark even if there was no cleansing campaign. Sounds really seedy and crazy.

Hopefully, some guys from the forum that live there can keep us updated with the "on the ground" situation. I think everyone should be concerned about security issues in general. As the global economy continues to go down the tubes and starts to affect Colombia, the chances of getting robbed/hurt/killed go up even without this scenario of being caught in the middle of a "social cleansing" sweep.

Tom 33
03-04-09, 10:41
I've never heard of one crime occurring in this section in all my time there, and much less against a "gringo"!I live here too. Paisas consider la Mayorista dangerous.

This social cleansing thing is no joke. It has been around for a lot of years and is not going away any time soon.

Jchipper
03-04-09, 12:01
Yes, I live in MDE and it is now a city that is being swept by violence and rumors of social clean up crews doing the work of the mobs. I do not think it is a good time to vist here, but if you must, limit you're activity to the higher end casas in the stratus 6 areas. Phase Dose and the San Diego show will most likely not be affected as they are mob run and hang outs for the Jefes of the groups. It is a shame but not worth the loss of you're life or kidnapped for some stupid social reason. My 2 Cents, and keep the gringo trademark sandals and cut offs to a minimum along with loud noisey outburst and high fives from drunken buddies in Clubs or, tell Ricky Bobby not to speak english loudly as if were a broadcast companies Friday nite at the races commercial, he is a sure hit. , Americans, we do stand out don't we.

Bonhead
03-04-09, 12:31
So, I checked out reports of the pamphlet on PBH and ColombiaBlog. The report is legit. The pamphlet exists and has been around (at least first reported) for a week or so.

Any thoughts? I'm going soon and planning on going to clubs both pro and nonpro. I could live w/o nighttime sgs from poorer barrios, but the question is.- Am I pushing my luck? I mean, none of the strip clubs are in nice areas.

Anyone been out in the past couple of days to see if this is affecting activity at the clubs? I would think the girls would know better than the gringos if this was serious.

Ahh the timing. Aa.Honestly, if you blend in very well, you should have be fine. If you are an obvious monger and or obvious extranjero, I would not tempt my fate.

I've lived in el DF (Mexico City) for quite some time and even though I can pass as a local in most Latin American countries, I would not go back to Mexico City (and most other parts of Mexico) until this situation is cleaned up).

MiamiHeatLuver
03-04-09, 17:17
Over the last few days the mafia in Medellin has been handing out pamphlets saying they plan on killing anyone out on the streets after 10:00pm. They specifically mention they will kill prostitutes and their clients.

Obviously this shit will not happen in areas like Poblado but all you poor whitetrash who think Majorista is the place to be might soon find a bullet in your head.

I think we need to start a death-pool. My bets are on that Frank guy who is pimping down in Majorista. As several people on this forum have pointed out it is only a matter of time until the locals get tired of the gringo trash in Medellin. That time has come.

Here is the full article:

A pamphlet, spread in a large number of Medellín neighborhoods, threatens its authors will soon carry out a social cleansing of call-girls, strippers, prostitutes and their clients and imposed a 10PM curfew on people in certain neighborhoods.

The warning, that began to be circulated in the poor neighborhood of Moravia on Thursday, later appeared in many other neighborhoods in different parts of Colombia's second largest city. So far, people from eight neighborhoods on both the east, northeast, west and northwest of the city, confirmed having received the pamphlets.

The letter, signed by a previously unknown group called Ogdis, warns parents not to let their children on the street after 10 PM, because the group "will not take responsibility if innocent people die". People found in strip-clubs or places where there are prostitutes after 10PM "are lowlifes and bad men" and will be socially cleansed too, the group writes.

The group specifically focuses its threats on call-girls and prostitutes because they "have infected many with AIDS. "

The pamphlet announces the group will start its social cleansing "very soon" and apologizes "to society if innocent people die. "

The announcement of the upcoming social cleansing came one day after local authorities announced rigid security measures to curb soaring violence and because of the upcoming summit of the Inter-American Development Bank that will be held in Medellín from March 27 until March 31.

Medellín has seen a sharp rise in murders after the extradition of bosses of the demobilized AUC. Rumors say the 'Aguilas Negras', a group allegedly aligned with assumed drug lord Don Mario, has been violently taking control of neighborhoods that were previously under control of the Convivir, a collection of militias that collaborated with authorities, and the so-called Office of Envigado, that consists of former members of the AUC.I will bet my bottom dollar that this is that codepink guy rearing his ugly head again. I specifically remember him writing la mayorista with a "j" like majorista instead of the "y". As far as the validity of the flyer, I'll believe it when a seasoned monger receives one and puts a copy of it up in here, not some putz with a whole 1 post. LOL

Frank Casio
03-04-09, 21:36
I live here too. Paisas consider la Mayorista dangerous.

This social cleansing thing is no joke. It has been around for a lot of years and is not going away any time soon.So who are the people who live in Itagui/La Mayorista, El Centro, Sabaneta, Envigado, non-Paisas? Of course if you live in a very rich or high end area, of any city in the World, you're going to consider a poorer area scary and dangerous ! People fear what they don't know, that's perfectly normal! We all used to be afraid to come to Colombia because of all the stories, and it being a third World Country and all, and we found a "Paradise"! People that don't believe, are loosing out on this Medellin Paradise!

Well, people who don't want to believe about La Mayorista, are also loosing out on another part of the Medellin Paradise on the Cheap-N-Good, and are paying more than necessary! I suspect that some of these guys writing lies about La Mayorista have vested interests, and either own rental properties in El Poblado or own businesses and are trying to protect them from the competition !

If there is any cleansing, it's going on in Parque Lleras and El Poblado! Where did the last robberry at gun point occurred against Americans? Yes you got it, in El Poblado, right accross from the ritzy Oviedo Mall, the Medellin Mansion! Where was all the media focus recently against gringos? Yes, you're right again, Parque LLeras! Where was the location of the last place that shut down their Sunday BB-Qs with "gringos and cuties"! You are right again, Parque Lleras! I know you guys are really smart and can read through all the fear monguering!

I was just at La Mayorista Last night, impressive! Normally I quote 30% as cuties, last night on a rainy Tuesday night at least 50% of the ladies there were hotties, I was in "awe and shock"! As expressed by 4 other "gringos" that where their last night, their only problem was choosing the "cutie" for the night !

When El Centro is closing shop at 1AM, La Mayorista Strip is oppenning places where you don't pay extra for a girls drink, and where you can talk and dance until 4AM! There are 2 of these places now, with the 3rd being a 24/7, open day and night! Police in Motor Cycles all over the place day and night! Not to mention that a few of the Medellin Mansion cuties where hanging out there last night also!

My friend Rob (changed name to protect identity), a small guy, maybe 5'7/155 pnds. , blue eyed, balled, "gringo" looking, a mile away, World Traveller, first time in Medellin & La Mayorista, dissappeared on me for 3 hrs. As a worry, worry, I stayed up waiting for him until 4AM, and when I finally decided to hit the sack, I took a last look down my balcony, and there he was, standing with a girl, whom he later claimed entertained him all night ! She walked him around, purchased his drinks, without stealing any money, (something he monitored very closely, just in case) and she walked him back to the door!

He told me repeatedly that I did not have to worry about him, he likes being with regular folks like in La Mayorista and was thanking me all night for the great time he had, his very first night in Medllin. He arrived last night at 9:30 and hit the ground running! I had so much fun with him and with all the new "hotties" in La Mayorista, that after having spent a year with every "cutie" in La Mayorista, I became excited again about all the new prospects ! And also with the new "drink and dance" places that are now opened, "every day", until 4AM ! And, at normal prices ! Where "cuties" come in and out all night, and where you can sit, drink and party, before........!

I also helped some really nice, but huge, black guys score for the normal $25, 000cop! The girls where asking them $100,000cop! I guess cause they're a little afraid of the "big package" that they may carry! But once I explained to them that they were very gentle guys, no problema, they got the same deal as everybody else, at no charge from me! This is what I do, help men have fun! Even some of my girls have asked me, "what do you get out of all this, helping these guys have fun! " It's just what I do, I enjoy it, and I do most of it for free ! I love women, love sharing my knowledge, love helping "gringos" have fun here in this "Medellin Paradise", specially since I know American women are so screwed up!

Frank Casio!

Frank Casio
03-04-09, 22:34
Little hard to believe, considering the Mafia lives of the "drugs" that the prostitutes and their clients consume. It must be a new "marketting tool" to kill of your clientele! But then what do I know, I just live here!

Heard about the pamphlet in El Centro! Hate to break it to you Paraco Bob, but there is more police presence in El Centro and La Mayorista than anywhere in El poblado! The last time some "goody too shoes" handed pamphlets like that in Cartagena or Barranquilla, can't remember the exact city, the whole lot of them got their ass rolled off to Jail, and they were'nt the "Mafia" trying to kill off their own clients, just a group of "vigilantes" trying to scare of business!

Frank Casio!It was in Medellin that Uribe and his Military Police first destroyed the Escobar Cartel. He uses the Military as Police in the whole country to fight even the all powerful FARC which used to dominate all the highways, back when nobody could leave the cities without putting themselves in danger! This was less than 8-10 years ago! That's why we are all here now, because the Military Police protects the whole country!

The same Military police that patrols all the highways and byways exiting the cities in Colombia, is the same Military police that patrols the streets in Medellin, keeping them safe! They're all over El Centro and La Mayorista, and they are not corrupt like in Costa Rica and Brazil where Americans are afraid of them! Often they go after the cocaine dealers to arrest them in front of everybody, never consumers, since there is a degree of tolerance towards consumption of Cocaine and Marihuana in small quantities ! They shake down the "traffickers", and unfortunately sometimes they do accept a little bribe here and there, they're not perfect, but they keep them on their toes! Not only don't they harrass the normal citizen, but protect them and are quick to response to any act of violence! Colombia's Military often moves their police force around, specially when they suspect that they're getting to "cozy" with the local drug dealers! They just re-shuffle them so they lose all of their connections, very smart!

Colombian police are taught to "serve and protect", from the Chief In Command, President Uribe, who, by the way, Colombians want to re-elect to a 3rd term, but unlike Chavez, Uribe, believes and respects "democracy"! The Military Police here is praised and encouraged to "Protect and Serve", and they take pride in doing this! They're hawks at protecting the subway system, I've been turn away at least once and questioned another time for looking a little "too tipsy"! They just told me to hop on a bus or a taxi where less restrictions apply! They were nice enough to direct me to the bus stop for Envigado from El Centro! This was at 4AM in the morning when the subway re-opens! I was being a "typical Paisa" and was trying to safe on the "Taxi Fare"!

This "Pride" to "Protect and Serve" comes straight from "The Top", from the man who destroyed the Cartels and saved and restored Colombia, Presidente Uribe! With a little help from good old USA (4 billion US$ given to President Uribe by the last administration to fight "terrorrism", and protect our "american's asses" down here), for which I'm thankfull for!

On a lighter note, my first house in El Trianon, Envigado was very closed to a house owned by Escobar's Mom! Escobar is now burried in Itagui, near La Mayorista and The International Club (Sriptease Bar)! When Escobar's entire Cartel was destroyed, many of the little shops in Envigado which where used to launder money for Escobar, found themselves with a business and cash that nobody ever claimed!

The cartel was wiped off the face of the Earth, and apparently the police didn't have enough records to know which businesses where legite, hence, a few locals, quite a few, found themselves set up for life! So in Envigado, a very quiet community, no prostitution, Zona Rosa "La Bota Del Dia", like Parque Lleras, you will never Know which shop owner once laundered for Escobar ! Many people did that "back in the days" (a little Lancaster,PA slang) !

Frank Casio!

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Justafool
03-04-09, 22:59
Sounds like the Nazis have finally made it to MDE! Or Castro will rise again! Maybe it is just Chavez extending his reach to Colombia via MDE. Could it be that South Africa has moved NW.

Has anyone heard any true accounts of this stuff actually happening? Has the law enforcement returned all the gains they have made to a new group of terrorists?

Where is La Majorista anyway?


Over the last few days the mafia in Medellin has been handing out pamphlets saying they plan on killing anyone out on the streets after 10:00pm. They specifically mention they will kill prostitutes and their clients.

Obviously this shit will not happen in areas like Poblado but all you poor whitetrash who think Majorista is the place to be might soon find a bullet in your head.

I think we need to start a death-pool. My bets are on that Frank guy who is pimping down in Majorista. As several people on this forum have pointed out it is only a matter of time until the locals get tired of the gringo trash in Medellin. That time has come.

Here is the full article:

A pamphlet, spread in a large number of Medellín neighborhoods, threatens its authors will soon carry out a social cleansing of call-girls, strippers, prostitutes and their clients and imposed a 10PM curfew on people in certain neighborhoods.

The warning, that began to be circulated in the poor neighborhood of Moravia on Thursday, later appeared in many other neighborhoods in different parts of Colombia's second largest city. So far, people from eight neighborhoods on both the east, northeast, west and northwest of the city, confirmed having received the pamphlets.

The letter, signed by a previously unknown group called Ogdis, warns parents not to let their children on the street after 10 PM, because the group "will not take responsibility if innocent people die". People found in strip-clubs or places where there are prostitutes after 10PM "are lowlifes and bad men" and will be socially cleansed too, the group writes.

The group specifically focuses its threats on call-girls and prostitutes because they "have infected many with AIDS. "

The pamphlet announces the group will start its social cleansing "very soon" and apologizes "to society if innocent people die. "

The announcement of the upcoming social cleansing came one day after local authorities announced rigid security measures to curb soaring violence and because of the upcoming summit of the Inter-American Development Bank that will be held in Medellín from March 27 until March 31.

Medellín has seen a sharp rise in murders after the extradition of bosses of the demobilized AUC. Rumors say the 'Aguilas Negras', a group allegedly aligned with assumed drug lord Don Mario, has been violently taking control of neighborhoods that were previously under control of the Convivir, a collection of militias that collaborated with authorities, and the so-called Office of Envigado, that consists of former members of the AUC.

Paraco Bob
03-04-09, 23:23
I always get a laugh when I hear stupid gringos talking about safety issues in Colombia when they usually have no idea what the fuck they are talking about.

First, the government in Medellin is taking the social cleaning threat VERY seriously. The idiots here who are talking about how safe Mayorista and Central are must be smarter than the Medellin government and the Medellin police force.

Last night all the poor areas of the city had machine gun carrying police on every single corner. I know someone who lives in one of these areas and she said it looked like a war zone with so many police. This threat of social cleaning is REAL and is being treated as REAL by all aspects of law enforcement in Medellin. Do not let some stupid gringo tell you otherwise.

Second, I saw a copy of one of the pamphlets. It SPECIFICALLY states that prostitutes and their clients will be KILLED if they are on the street after 10:00pm. It continues to state that the clients of prostitutes are BAD MEN. That means YOU guys are BAD MEN. It means YOU GUYS are targeted. Do not fool yourselves. It is all about YOU guys.

No one in Medellin gives a shit about someone calling a prepago to their place in Poblado. But people are sick and tired of seeing street *****s all over the city. The social cleaning is going to take place in the concentrated areas like Mayorista and Central. This is guaranteed.

Now that an announcement has been made they are going to have to follow through in order to show they are serious. I suspect they will do some sort of drive-by shooting in Majorista or perhaps plant a bomb in one of the bars. They will do something fast and efficient in order to send the largest possible message and still get away. Also, you can be ASSURED that when the bullets start flying that the police on the street are going to be looking the other way. None of the bad guys are ever going to be caught. Remember, this IS Medellin. Never forget where you are.

As I said yesterday, it is time to start a dead-pool. My bets are on Frank or one of his clients. Who else is in?

Frank! One thing, I have been meaning to ask you, what is, your level, of education! ? I mean, you write, so, well, I guess so bad, that I, just have to ask? ! There is, no need, to write, like you do, if you went to, at least, level 5, in school. I find, what you write, hard to read!

Paraco Bob
03-04-09, 23:36
There is something else I forgot to put in my other report. The Medellin government has put a new law into effect that prohibits two males on a motorcycle at night time. You can have a female passenger on the motorcycle but not another man.

The reason they put this law into effect is to prevent drive-by killings. The common method to kill someone in Medellin is for two guys to drive up on a motorcycle. The guy on the back then pulls out a sub-machine gun and kills the victim.

The government is so concerned about violence right now in Medellin that they have taken this measure of banning all men on the backs of motorcycles. I would say this shows exactly how serious things are becoming.

I am sure some gringo is going to jump in here to explain how safe Majorista and Central are. But remember Colombians themselves will not go into these areas at night time. Smart Colombians think these areas are dangerous but dumb gringos think they are safe. Remember where the fuck you are.

I am not trying to put anyone off from coming to Colombia. The nice areas of Colombia are completely safe and great to visit. But it would seem many on ISG go to only the worst areas to save some money. What you seek is eventually going to turn on you, and when it does, you will not have a second chance. If you are poor then go to Thailand where things are safe for poor gringos but stay away from the ghettos of Medellin like Majorista and Central if you want to live.

Goga Fung
03-05-09, 01:14
There is something else I forgot to put in my other report. The Medellin government has put a new law into effect that prohibits two males on a motorcycle at night time. You can have a female passenger on the motorcycle but not another man.Also in some places they prohibited any motorcyclists for 90 days.

A have not been to Mayorista, so can't say anything about it. A couple of times to Centro, at nite it does not look too good. Homeless people are sleeping on the street. Also taxi drivers warn you to watch your ass while there. And the girls there mostly are not good looking and sometimes drunk and nasty. So it is definitely not a fun place for a vacation. But during day Centro is ok.

Paraco Bob
03-05-09, 01:38
Frank, you are showing everyone here how clueless you indeed are. Pablo was only killed after hundreds and hundreds of people died. The Medellin police did not come in and kick his ass like you are making it sound. In fact, most people believe Los Pepes were American soldiers but that is up for speculation. Go read some fucking history before making these idiot comments.

To everyone else who knows the true history of Medellin, Frank has now publicly showed how clueless he is. Beware to anyone who takes his advice.

Also, there have been three girls killed already this week. The cleaning has begun.


It was in Medellin that Uribe and his Military Police first destroyed the Escobar Cartel.

Paraco Bob
03-05-09, 01:48
The government put all the poor areas in lock-down last night. There are hundreds of additional police on the streets. There is a story of 3 girls being killed this week but I need confirmation. There is a new law that prohibits more than one male on a motorcycle. Things are changing fast!

The Medellin police are taking this very seriously. It is only a few gringos who are blowing this off as always.

My bets are on Majorista or Central getting hit first. If I was Frank I would be getting my ass out of the city until things blow over.


Has anyone heard any true accounts of this stuff actually happening? Has the law enforcement returned all the gains they have made to a new group of terrorists?

Frank Casio
03-05-09, 03:10
There is something else I forgot to put in my other report. The Medellin government has put a new law into effect that prohibits two males on a motorcycle at night time. You can have a female passenger on the motorcycle but not another man.

The reason they put this law into effect is to prevent drive-by killings. The common method to kill someone in Medellin is for two guys to drive up on a motorcycle. The guy on the back then pulls out a sub-machine gun and kills the victim.

The government is so concerned about violence right now in Medellin that they have taken this measure of banning all men on the backs of motorcycles. I would say this shows exactly how serious things are becoming.

I am sure some gringo is going to jump in here to explain how safe Majorista and Central are. But remember Colombians themselves will not go into these areas at night time. Smart Colombians think these areas are dangerous but dumb gringos think they are safe. Remember where the fuck you are.

I am not trying to put anyone off from coming to Colombia. The nice areas of Colombia are completely safe and great to visit. But it would seem many on ISG go to only the worst areas to save some money. What you seek is eventually going to turn on you, and when it does, you will not have a second chance. If you are poor then go to Thailand where things are safe for poor gringos but stay away from the ghettos of Medellin like Majorista and Central if you want to live.Hey Mr. Paraco "Bobo", new genius of the Medellin Report! The genius that says the Mafia is using a new, never used, "marketting Technique, "kill your Clients"! I have a copy of the Pamphlet, it's from the "Organizacion", a Vigilante group that is always trying to scare Colombians against drugs, prostitution and anything they deem "immoral"! Just a right wing extreme group! It was recently in the news that a group of them got arrested for making the same kind of threats in Barranquilla or somewhere near the coast of Colombia!

Mr. IQ 200, of course the Colombian government is going to take any threats against their citizens seriously, yes, they protect even their prostitutes! That's why they're closing the bars in El Centro at 1AM for a while and not allowing 2 men in a Motor cycle! For heavens sake Mr. Paraco "Bobo" they defeated a 20, 000 strong Farc organization and relegated them to the jungles and Venezuela, and you actually think all those Military Police on foot and in Motor cycles, 2 men strong, each with Machine guns, are going to have any problems a gainst a few "right Wing Vigilantes"!

And by the way, no such laws have applied to Itagui-La Mayorista, they're still open till 4AM, and one bar is a 24/7 ***** Monguering Paradise!

The Pamphlet clearly mentioned "prepagos", wherever they are, which are not considered your typical street *****s! Pre-pagos are the ones found at Universities and high end places like El Poblado, Fase ll and all the Universities! So please read the Pamphlet, if you can read or write Spanish!

My theory on this Paraco "Bobo" guy is that he is a spammer from the ************** trying to scare off potential Medellin clients, or a spammer for the "higher end" Hotels in Medellin trying to scare off clients away from the "more reasonable" priced areas like La Mayorista and El Centro, so all these over charging and inflated establish ments can get rich of your pockets! But he leaves out the fact that the threat is against all Pre-pagos wherever they are at, whether is Fase ll, San Diego, El Poblado, etc. !

As for my "typos" I happen to be bi-lingual! My brain encompasses two complete languages, and after living in Medellin for the last 4 years I'm going to be inclined to make a few "grammatical errors"! With only a 1/2 hour window to write all this, I don't always have time to go back and preview my report! So please refrain from the personal attacks and stick to the subject! I'd like to se you type all this in Spanish with a half hour window! While at the same time Using Messenger with a hot chick who wants to go out with meand I'm trying to convince to. ! It's difficult, I'll let you be the genius, my hat is off to you!

Frank Casio! (sorry no time to review, will edit later)

Hoof Hunter
03-05-09, 03:48
Maybe this can also explain some of the increased police presence. The streets are hot. 14 assassinations in one night across the city???

http://www.colombiareports.com/colombian-news/news/3031-passengers-no-longer-allowed-on-motorcycles-in-medellin.html


Medellín imposes strict security measures to halt violence
Wednesday, 25 February 2009 20:57

Medellín imposed emergency security measures as tensions between illegal armed groups are causing a sharp increase in violence and a soaring murder rate.

One of the measures is that owners of motorcycles in Medellín are no longer allowed to carry a passenger.

Mayor Alonso Salazar Jaramillo announced this following an emergency meeting on Wednesday.

Crime rates have gone up significantly this year, and many murders are committed with the use of motorcycles. This type of vehicle was involved in 183 murders in 2008, and current information shows an increase of 19 percent in the first two months of 2009.

The situation reached a climax last night, with no less than 14 assassinations were reported throughout the city. As such, pressure increased on the local authorities to take immediate measures.

The murders are often performed by two hit-men, one of which controls the bike while the other performs the actual assassination. By no longer allowing the passenger, the mayor hopes to reduce the murder rate.

Another measure that was announced is that commercial establishments in the city are now subject to adjusted opening hours, with exception of some of the most upscale nightlife areas in Medellín like Las Palmas and El Poblado.

Frank Casio
03-05-09, 03:52
Last night all the poor areas of the city had machine gun carrying police on every single corner. I know someone who lives in one of these areas and she said it looked like a war zone with so many police. This threat of social cleaning is REAL and is being treated as REAL by all aspects of law enforcement in Medellin. Do not let some stupid gringo tell you otherwise.

Second, I saw a copy of one of the pamphlets. It SPECIFICALLY states that prostitutes and their clients will be KILLED if they are on the street after 10:00pm. It continues to state that the clients of prostitutes are BAD MEN. That means YOU guys are BAD MEN. It means YOU GUYS are targeted. Do not fool yourselves. It is all about YOU guys.

No one in Medellin gives a shit about someone calling a prepago to their place in Poblado. But people are sick and tired of seeing street *****s all over the city. The social cleaning is going to take place in the concentrated areas like Mayorista and Central. This is guaranteed.

Frank! One thing, I have been meaning to ask you, what is, your level, of education! ? I mean, you write, so, well, I guess so bad, that I, just have to ask? ! There is, no need, to write, like you do, if you went to, at least, level 5, in school. I find, what you write, hard to read!Response to :

Mr. "genius" Paraco "Bobo", I spent the whole night at La mayorista last night, along with 4 other gringos! There were 2 military police in one motorcycle, like every other day, except on the weekend where the beef it up to 4, 2 motorcycles! I don't know where you get your info. About La mayorista, but I think you make it up! It's clear after reading this post that you are a spammer for the "higher end" ***** establishments who want to rip off gringos!

The pampphlet clearly mentions "Pre-pagos" which will not be found anywhere near El Centro! The definition of Pre-Pago is a high end hooker or College girls who only work at high end establishments or "on call"! The Pamphlet specifically targets them, which you deny on the above statements, making you a liar, for either not reading the "pamphlet" or ommitting that "little detail" about Pre-Pagos!

They are also directly reffering to the "youth" in the street corners doing or selling drugs! They are a Vigilante Group called "La Organizacion" already stopped by Police in other parts of the Country! I believe even in the good old USA they have "terrorist alerts" and beef up police presence at certain times and events, like New Years or "Threats", has anything happenned because their was a threat! The same thing happens here, the police has to take these threats seriously and "act" on them, that's why we know Colombia is safe, because of the Military Police presence! Do you think a few Vigilantes are going to kill a bunch of people with tons of "uniformed Military Police? That's exactly what is done in New York to protect from "terrorist attacks"!

So see, Mr. Paraco "Bobo", you make my point, that's why El Centro is even safer now with all the Police Presence! And stop throwing in La Mayorista because it has not been mentioned anywhere, and "no" pamphlets where handed out there, like in Parque Lleras, only in El Centro! And please lay off the racist attacks on my spelling and grammar! Next time, you right your report in Spanish and I'll let you know how you did, ok!

If anyone wants me to email them the "pamphlet" so they can post it, I'll be more than glad to! Havn't had much time to learn the System, as I have had to answer to all this "I'll informed" and "idiotic" reports by this paraco "Bobo"! Thanks!

Frank Casio! (Sorry, will edit later, no time)

Frank Casio
03-05-09, 03:59
Sounds like the Nazis have finally made it to MDE! Or Castro will rise again! Maybe it is just Chavez extending his reach to Colombia via MDE. Could it be that South Africa has moved NW.

Has anyone heard any true accounts of this stuff actually happening? Has the law enforcement returned all the gains they have made to a new group of terrorists?

Where is La Majorista anyway?Hi Justafool,

Just read my rebuttles to Paraco "Bobo", I live here, I´m all over ! Whatever makes sense to you ! I provide the "pamphlet" if anybody wants to post it ! I explain everything in My Reports, it´s not that complicated !

Frank Casio!

Frank Casio
03-05-09, 05:48
Guys,

Here it is, the famous "Pamphlet" on Social cleansing! Read it for yourselves! Notice the section regarding "Pre-pagos"? Remember the definition of a "Pre-Pago"? "Pre-Pagos" don't hang in El Centro, they are high end call girls! Hence, the threat, if any, is for all of Medellin! Oh, and by the way, havn't you guys ever seen all the "street hookers" around "San Diego" and "Fase ll"?

So much for the theory that the threat only applies to El Centro, and not to those areas! Please read the rest of "my reports" in response to "Poraco Bob" regarding this matter, in order to understand this subject!

Frank Casio!

Client 9
03-05-09, 06:28
Colombians do not consider Mayorista a safe zone, especially at night.

After paying for airfare and for lodging, I cannot imagine making Mayorista the primary focus of a trip to Medellin.

Aim higher. (A lot higher.)

Client 9
03-05-09, 06:44
"Social cleansing" is not new in Colombia. These activities have been around a long time in Colombia, and these activities will continue well into the future.

It is very possible that current economic conditions may encourage a new wave of "social cleansing" in Colombia.

Sailor2006
03-05-09, 08:07
Hello to all,

Paraco Bob makes some intresting posts, and everything he has said so far is basically true. This is a pretty intresting topic that I decided to crawl out of my cave and put in my two cents worth.

I personally think this guy Bob goes alittle far, and tries to justify his own agenda, but make no mistakes his facts are correct. Colombia is dangerous. Those type of fliers get passed out and prosititues get killed, it has happend before and will happend again. There are soo many new gringos and vistors coming to Medellin and your only experience is poblado and 33rd street that a false sense of security is created, this is dangerous. So be carefull out there guys.

I went to 53rd (centrol) tonight with a friend for a few beers and a look at the ladies, few police on the street or in the bars, their presence was normal, I have always seen a few cops in those bars and tonight their was only one. The crowd was normal. Everything is going as it should for a wed. Night. I always keep my guard up, never take jewlery or large sums of cash. I always sit against a wall close to the bar or near a doorway. I never leave my phone out and I don't get stupid drunk.

What I find really intresting is that this is old news, those types of threats are made every couple years and some poor barrio girl pays the price, probly a john too if they catch one. But thats it, as far as my knowledge goes there have been no drive bye shootings, or bombing of strip clubs in centrol or any other place.

BOB. YOU GO OVERBOARD HERE

"Second, I saw a copy of one of the pamphlets. It SPECIFICALLY states that prostitutes and their clients will be KILLED if they are on the street after 10:00pm. It continues to state that the clients of prostitutes are BAD MEN. That means YOU guys are BAD MEN. It means YOU GUYS are targeted. Do not fool yourselves. It is all about YOU guys. "

My responce 1. You have more of a chance getting hit by a bus, so always look bothways before crossing a street. 2. We are always targets, by women, stupid gangs ect. If you came to Colombia expecting 100% security and safety please don't come.

I find some arguments here. And agree

"No one in Medellin gives a shit about someone calling a prepago to their place in Poblado. But people are sick and tired of seeing street *****s all over the city. The social cleaning is going to take place in the concentrated areas like Mayorista and Central. This is guaranteed. "

1. If they are going to threaten hookers, and place a curfew on barrios, I think they will greatly mind if some "hoe" is returning from a guys penthouse at 3AM. Social cleaning doesn't decided that call girls are OK, but strippers and casa putas BAD. GET REAL DUDE (most hoes live in the barrios even the ones that charge alot of money)

2. I think people are sick and tired of seeing street *****s where they take there families for dinner and go shopping, but all over the city, have you driven in centrol at night?

3. These threats are mostly effecting the women whom live in the hills and work in centrol and poblado, thats why they placed the curfew at 10PM.

But again this is Colombia, you shouldnt decided to come here and vist without expecting this or atleast being prepared.

With all respect to frank over there, there is security in centrol and other areas but it still Colombia and anything can happen, so BUYER BE WARNED.

Frank and Bob both have agends, Frank wants you to rent a room and bring him MONEY MONEY MONEY! Bob over there seems to have a thing against centrol and M-Street and the gringos whom vist those places, I hate to break the news to you but very few gringos even vist those places in the first place too dangerous, and not worth it really. Now S. D. Tonight I saw 10 gringos, counting me of course.

This also gets me thinking of stuff, maybe I should print out 5, 000 fliers with our "little girlfriend for weeks" name, number and address and pay them to be handed out in the barrios bet our social cleaners would love his virgin auction!

And if I really wanted to start social cleaning I would place a few taxi cabs in places like S. D. Or F-2 and pick up the johns at 3-4 AM when they are drunk and tired, only to be found days later in Rio Medellin. Or by 6-7 handles of rum on a Saturday night in mangos and start a nice fire with them. Not too many exits in that place. Or hire a few hookers who are HIV postive and pay them royally to be freelance prepagos and give their clients true GFE.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Phunluv
03-05-09, 08:10
Let's not get carried away people. This threat may be legit but it may not even reach the usual areas a gringo might go for the street scene; these turf wars and social cleansing usually take place in the poor neighborhoods up the mountain range.

I've yet to hear of a specific case of a gringo monger getting killed either in this forum or some of the others out there in the past 2-3 years, although that obviously doesn't rule out it hasn't happened (and we just don't know about it).

But if anyone knows of a case mentioned in a U.S. or Colombian news source, I'm all ears, please correct me! :)

(I don't think the American that was killed in Cali a year or two back was a monger; he was a businessman with debts and married to a Colombiana whose family was involved in politics)

There certainly have been cases of armed robbery of mongers in Cali and Medellin (maybe Bogota too) noted in these forums, although I'm not going to bother repeating the details tonight. That's definitely a real and legit danger, and will get worse this year as the local economy takes a hit. Unemployment is climbing back up in Colombia according to recent reports.

I do know there's going to be an important international conference in Medellin at the end of March, so security should be tighter than normal, and the street scenes might be shut down for appearance's sake.

So if you're really into the street scene, or don't have much contacts to "order in" I would hold off on a trip this month just from the conference issue, putting aside the social cleansing threats.

Client 9
03-05-09, 11:16
There is something else I forgot to put in my other report. The Medellin government has put a new law into effect that prohibits two males on a motorcycle at night time. You can have a female passenger on the motorcycle but not another man.This is standard operating procedure in Colombia.

When they murdered Robert Vignola in Cali, they were two guys on a motorcycle. When they murdered a Gringo in Barranquilla recently, they were two guys on a motorcycle. When an armed robbery took place at a restaurant I was eating at in Barranquilla, they were two guys on a motorcycle. When a Gringo I know witnessed the murder of a gym owner outside a gym in Cali, they were two guys on a motorcycle. When another Gringo I know witnessed the murder of a guy at an adjacent table in a videobar on Avenida Sexta in Cali, they were two guys on a motorcycle.

And so on and so forth.

Bobsthrobbinknob
03-05-09, 19:15
The Medellin government has put a new law into effect .....I am sure some gringo is going to jump in here to explain how safe Majorista and Central are.....Colombians themselves will not go into these areas at night time....Smart Colombians ... dumb gringos....I am not trying to put anyone off from coming to Colombia....The nice areas of Colombia are completely safe and great to visit.....it would seem many on ISG go to only the worst areas to save some money....If you are poor then go to Thailand where things are ....stay away from the ghettos of Medellin like Majorista and Central if you want to live.Indeed, Paraco Bob, I agree, and here are some distinct situations where I too, believe that DANGER LURKS EVERYWHERE in Medellin.

I got "kidnapped" by a paisa in La Mayorista, and "held for ransom" until I delivered a couple of orgasms and produced some "leche" a couple of times. Yes, indeed, La Mayorista is not for a weak heart. (90% of the men in LaMayorista were COLOMBIANS, but I guess they were the stupid ones)

I also got stared down in El Centro by several women, you guys watch out for them, they're in lingerie and high heels. They'll throw you down and jump up and down on you till you scream. They even poured a few Pilsen beers down my throat.

Then, oh my god! I traveled on the Metro. Be very careful here, you can get stared down by the evil local girls, and if you look back they may just smile at you and want you to buy them a meal, or even worse, want to go to your apartment and cook you one. Further yet, they may even want you to have sex with them. UNTIL MORNING. And, if you're not careful, they might even phone a friend and have her come over once she's tired and force you to have sex with her while she watches. Sometimes, they call their sister, and they'll both service you. Oh, yes. Stay away from these areas.

Don't venture to Laureles either, the girl at the cash register at the restaurant might just start to smile at you. You never know where just buying a hamburger will lead. Or getting some orange juice at the grocery. These girls are dangerous.

And Parque Lleras is so frightening, all of that hustle and bustle of happy people having a good time. Better duck and run from there.

And finally, I think the biggest thing to avoid, so everyone beware, is that you may meet Johns "friends" at The Penthouse and they may just want to come over every day. Yes, having perfect 10's are a difficult bunch, especially when one is sitting on your face and the other is riding you like the toughest bull in the rodeo.

By the way, I took my "attitude" and my "gold chains, watches, and jewelery" and went into the barrios and just TEMPTED the Colombians to take me out. Thanks for all the advice you guys gave me before my trip, the PARANOIA really paid off.

Sailor2006
03-06-09, 00:38
Bob, I am glad you had a fun time here but give it a rest, just becuase you didn't get mugged, or robbed doesn't mean it can't happen. I realize actually having sex is a great experience for you, I myself enjoy the lifestyle very much. But regardless its Colombia don't disrespect it, and treat the place like its harmless.


Indeed, Paraco Bob, I agree, and here are some distinct situations where I too, believe that DANGER LURKS EVERYWHERE in Medellin.

I got "kidnapped" by a paisa in La Mayorista, and "held for ransom" until I delivered a couple of orgasms and produced some "leche" a couple of times. Yes, indeed, La Mayorista is not for a weak heart. (90% of the men in LaMayorista were COLOMBIANS, but I guess they were the stupid ones)

I also got stared down in El Centro by several women, you guys watch out for them, they're in lingerie and high heels. They'll throw you down and jump up and down on you till you scream. They even poured a few Pilsen beers down my throat.

Then, oh my god! I traveled on the Metro. Be very careful here, you can get stared down by the evil local girls, and if you look back they may just smile at you and want you to buy them a meal, or even worse, want to go to your apartment and cook you one. Further yet, they may even want you to have sex with them. UNTIL MORNING. And, if you're not careful, they might even phone a friend and have her come over once she's tired and force you to have sex with her while she watches. Sometimes, they call their sister, and they'll both service you. Oh, yes. Stay away from these areas.

Don't venture to Laureles either, the girl at the cash register at the restaurant might just start to smile at you. You never know where just buying a hamburger will lead. Or getting some orange juice at the grocery. These girls are dangerous.

And Parque Lleras is so frightening, all of that hustle and bustle of happy people having a good time. Better duck and run from there.

And finally, I think the biggest thing to avoid, so everyone beware, is that you may meet Johns "friends" at The Penthouse and they may just want to come over every day. Yes, having perfect 10's are a difficult bunch, especially when one is sitting on your face and the other is riding you like the toughest bull in the rodeo.

By the way, I took my "attitude" and my "gold chains, watches, and jewelery" and went into the barrios and just TEMPTED the Colombians to take me out. Thanks for all the advice you guys gave me before my trip, the PARANOIA really paid off.

Furysys
03-06-09, 01:24
I emailed the girl I keep in contact with in Medellin, about the situation as I have read here, and there is definitely some truth to it, she reports a much higher police presence then previously, in response to pamphlets threatening to clean up (to quote her "unos grupos armados en los barrios de Medellin ellos dicen que haciendo limpiesa a los raptores de carros") cleaning up the barrios from the robbers.

I, for one, certainly see no benefit in attempting to repudiate the comments that PB makes, and anybody who can brazenly state that there is nothing to fear in Medellin Colombia has obviously forgotten the recent history both of the city and of Colombia in general. I have been there four times, and love the place, and the people, and Parque LLeras (especially daytime at Cafe LeBon), and the daytime casas, and Mango's. And. Despite this runon sentence. One should never forget that we gringos are visiters in their city and country and should act accordingly. If one wants to open themselves to highrisk by hanging around Mayorista at 3am, so be it, that is their choice, but, when you can go to a casa for 60k or less (not even $25), aiming for the lowest possible price is something to be done at Walmart, not in Medellin.

Client 9
03-06-09, 07:43
Hello, BobsThrobbinKnob.

If you haven't noticed, Bob, the Colombia forum is still hampered by full moderation. Some of us would like to create a more civil and more respectful environment on the Colombia forum.

Bob, we're all really glad that you had fun on your very first trip to Medellin.

However, you're not exactly a Colombia guru because you've spent a week in Medellin (especially with John holding your hand the entire time).

So, Bob, please give it a rest. Tone down the bitter sarcasm and lose the adversarial attitude. It's unnecessary and counterproductive.

Bobsthrobbinknob
03-06-09, 21:03
Hello, BobsThrobbinKnob.

If you haven't noticed, Bob, the Colombia forum is still hampered by full moderation. Some of us would like to create a more civil and more respectful environment on the Colombia forum. Bob, we're all really glad that you had fun on your very first trip to Medellin. However, you're not exactly a Colombia guru because you've spent a week in Medellin (especially with John holding your hand the entire time). So, Bob, please give it a rest. Tone down the bitter sarcasm and lose the adversarial attitude. It's unnecessary and counterproductive.Ok, so bash Bob. Fine. I'm sorry I found a way to carefully and respectfully navigate the city ALONE without incident and enjoy a few of the beautiful paisas on my visit. Oops. Sorry for the sarcasm, it just flows out.

Frank Casio
03-06-09, 23:12
Hello to all,

Frank and Bob both have agends, Frank wants you to rent a room and bring him MONEY MONEY MONEY! Bob over there seems to have a thing against centrol and M-Street and the gringos whom vist those places, I hate to break the news to you but very few gringos even vist those places in the first place too dangerous, and not worth it really. Now S. D. Tonight I saw 10 gringos, counting me of course. Hey guy, at $25US a night or $125 a week, I don't think it's about money, money, money! Other places owned by gringos charge for a day, what I charge for a week!

I do it for fun, as a hobby! I've stated that many times! Since there is a cost involved, can't do it for free! I started renting at My Place in La Mayorista after 8 months of partying there with my friends! One day I decided, why not share it with others and make a "little", I stress, "little" money in the process!

Oh, by the way, I was at la Mayorista again last night! Shock and awe! I had gotten tired, a little, of La Mayorista because all the girls knew me and the 20-30 "cuties" were already a "notch" on my belt, I'm not much for repeating! But since they opened the additional 2 4AM bars for drinking and dancing a lot of new talent is comming La Mayorista way!

Where I used to say that about 30% where "cuties", I'd say more like 50% were so now! And you're hearig this from a not too shabby guy at "50", most people think I'm between 34-38! I do good even in Tampa, Florida! I had to phuck my cousins'girlfriend in Tampa because she would'nt leave me alone! She got lucky because we had spent most of the night at the "Winghouse", something like "Hooters", but nicer! Those cute little blondes, scantily dressed, got my motors going!

Well anyways, last night I met "Geraldine", after a Colombian Marketting Rep. For a textile co. And a very nice Truck driver (looked more like an accountant) pointed her out to me! She had the face of an "angel", her body looked thin, but her face was captivating! She was singing with the local "musicians" when I called her over for a drink! She came over and started looking at me with "flirting" eyes, not hooker flirting, and totally ignoring my Colombian friends! When I excused myself to go to the bathroom she left my friends and only returned when I did! Then she wanted to sing me a song, for which I payed the musicians $5, 000cop! I becamed enamored with that "angel" face!

Well, to make a long story short, I asked her back to My Place! When we got there, she said, Oh! I've been here before, just last night! Then she said, but we didn't do anything! I guess she didn't want to spoil the moment! It turned out that my guest, had the same exquisite taste that I have! I kind of believed her because he told me that he often brings girls up just to talk, and pays them anyways!

Well, anyways, this beautiful "angel" turned out, not only to have a beautiful face, but what seemed "thin" clothed, turned out to be shapely and full legs with a milk white little body! I fell in love. She's one of the few girls who hasn't asked me for the money up front! I Just kissed her down there while she m. , she really enjoyed it! I didn't go in because I wanted to impress the fact that I was not in a hurry! I just let her hold my. So that at least she would know, it was no "small matter"! With her I'll repeat indefinitely, and suggested a closer relationship, which she considered! "Geraldine", my new little "angel face"!

My Colombian friends were cheering me because they could also feel the chemistry between us! She wants me to see her tonight, don't know if I can!

Frank Casio!

Tom 33
03-07-09, 00:38
I just received a PM from Bob's Knob. It was a love note calling me an asshole.

Knob and Frank can think and post whatever they want, but please read them with a huge grain of salt.

Frank Casio
03-07-09, 03:04
I just received a PM from Bob's Knob. It was a love note calling me an asshole.

Knob and Frank can think and post whatever they want, but please read them with a huge grain of salt.Tom, why do you lump me with Bob ? I did´nt PM you ! You are the one always following me around, and posting Spam against me ! Relax guy, enjoy live, "live and let live" !

Oh, guys, I might be buying a My Place ll in Laureles, or near Las Casas in El Prado ! Havn´t decided yet, any suggestions?

Frank Casio!

UrbanWildlife
03-07-09, 03:08
I just received a PM from Bob's Knob. It was a love note calling me an asshole.

Knob and Frank can think and post whatever they want, but please read them with a huge grain of salt.It is just a matter of time for serious trouble to find him Tom 33. Walking around Colombia with his attitude he cannot help but take a wrong turn and be hit between his cocksuckers. Anyone who has spent time in Colombia knows these types, and knows what the future holds for them. You make your bed you have to lie in it, and this clueless fool is going to find this out in a very difficult way before long. I am now using the ignore feature that Jackson provides us to use on posters like him, and I suggest others do the same, instead of having reading his shit, and feeling a need to respond like I have now.

Saturday morning,
Just a coincidence but it does relate somewhat to what we have been trying to tell this guy. Early this morning I received an email telling me a girl I had come to know really well from My Space, and whom I eventually met in Cali was killed on Tuesday. Very sad indeed. Yes we have violence everywhere in the world, but in Colombia it is much more rampant. Below is the content from the email.

"I am sorry to inform you all that Jenny is no longer with us. She got shot to death in her hometown of Cali, Colombia, on Tuesday, March 06, at around 6:30 PM. A funeral was held here in Cali on Friday. March 6th at 3:30PM. In this senseless act of violence, a person who stole her purse also took her life from her, as a consequence, none of us will ever be able to talk or see her again"

Bobsthrobbinknob
03-07-09, 17:43
. Thats why you have friends. When I do loose it, and eventually it will happen you are last on my "gringos to kill list". And "anti- americanism" Thanks! Sailor, this is a serious threat. You tell it all here, YOU want to kill gringos, you hate Americans, and desire to scare them all away from Medellin. You reveal through every post what an ugly, cynical person you are. Why you aren't banned from here is one of the true ISG mysteries.

Frank is a nice guy, and in no way has bothered you with his business. Why should it matter if he's in Mayorista, if you, being a "smart" inhabitant, don't even go there? In fact, you not being there makes it 100% more desirable!

Do you really have a list of gringos to kill? Or are you just planning a random shoot one day? Looks to me like you are the one strung out on the sex, drugs, and rock and roll.

Bobsthrobbinknob
03-07-09, 17:53
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/tw/tw_941.html

Not hyped up or toned down, just the warning for US Citizens visiting Colombia.

Fifty Fifty
03-07-09, 18:26
You can have a female passenger on the motorcycle but not another man.So how are they going to tell?


This is standard operating procedure in Colombia.

When they murdered Robert Vignola in Cali, they were two guys on a motorcycle. When they murdered a Gringo in Barranquilla recently, they were two guys on a motorcycle. When an armed robbery took place at a restaurant I was eating at in Barranquilla, they were two guys on a motorcycle. When a Gringo I know witnessed the murder of a gym owner outside a gym in Cali, they were two guys on a motorcycle. When another Gringo I know witnessed the murder of a guy at an adjacent table in a videobar on Avenida Sexta in Cali, they were two guys on a motorcycle.

And so on and so forth.Scary stuff, and I hear that the sales of long dark wigs have improved. Look out guys, I wouldnt swap it for Thailand anyday - There you can have 3, 4 or even 5 guys on a motorcycle and nobody cares. I have seen 4 beautiful girls on a Honda Click, then we all took notice :)

Cheers FF

MiamiHeatLuver
03-07-09, 18:59
Hey guy, at $25US a night or $125 a week, I don't think it's about money, money, money! Other places owned by gringos charge for a day, what I charge for a week!

I do it for fun, as a hobby! I've stated that many times! Since there is a cost involved, can't do it for free! I started renting at My Place in La Mayorista after 8 months of partying there with my friends! One day I decided, why not share it with others and make a "little", I stress, "little" money in the process!

Oh, by the way, I was at la Mayorista again last night! Shock and awe! I had gotten tired, a little, of La Mayorista because all the girls knew me and the 20-30 "cuties" were already a "notch" on my belt, I'm not much for repeating! But since they opened the additional 2 4AM bars for drinking and dancing a lot of new talent is comming La Mayorista way!

Where I used to say that about 30% where "cuties", I'd say more like 50% were so now! And you're hearig this from a not too shabby guy at "50", most people think I'm between 34-38! I do good even in Tampa, Florida! I had to phuck my cousins'girlfriend in Tampa because she would'nt leave me alone! She got lucky because we had spent most of the night at the "Winghouse", something like "Hooters", but nicer! Those cute little blondes, scantily dressed, got my motors going!

Well anyways, last night I met "Geraldine", after a Colombian Marketting Rep. For a textile co. And a very nice Truck driver (looked more like an accountant) pointed her out to me! She had the face of an "angel", her body looked thin, but her face was captivating! She was singing with the local "musicians" when I called her over for a drink! She came over and started looking at me with "flirting" eyes, not hooker flirting, and totally ignoring my Colombian friends! When I excused myself to go to the bathroom she left my friends and only returned when I did! Then she wanted to sing me a song, for which I payed the musicians $5, 000cop! I becamed enamored with that "angel" face!

Well, to make a long story short, I asked her back to My Place! When we got there, she said, Oh! I've been here before, just last night! Then she said, but we didn't do anything! I guess she didn't want to spoil the moment! It turned out that my guest, had the same exquisite taste that I have! I kind of believed her because he told me that he often brings girls up just to talk, and pays them anyways!

Well, anyways, this beautiful "angel" turned out, not only to have a beautiful face, but what seemed "thin" clothed, turned out to be shapely and full legs with a milk white little body! I fell in love. She's one of the few girls who hasn't asked me for the money up front! I Just kissed her down there while she m. , she really enjoyed it! I didn't go in because I wanted to impress the fact that I was not in a hurry! I just let her hold my. So that at least she would know, it was no "small matter"! With her I'll repeat indefinitely, and suggested a closer relationship, which she considered! "Geraldine", my new little "angel face"!

My Colombian friends were cheering me because they could also feel the chemistry between us! She wants me to see her tonight, don't know if I can!

Frank Casio!Wow frank, thanks for such an "on topic" intriging post! Rotflmao

Ricker
03-08-09, 01:46
. When I do loose it, and eventually it will happen you are last on my "gringos to kill list".Man I hope I'm not on your list Sailor!

I've seen you amigo, I think you're gettin close. Hahaha

Rumpus
03-08-09, 06:31
Without prompting, a semi-pro amiga told me this week that she was concerned about going back to her barrio (Castilla) alone late at night, and pulled up a PDF of the "social cleansing" threat (that prompted this discussion thread) as an explanation for me when I wondered (I didn't see who she got it from, multi-forward email). She seemed concerned about looking trashy and had seemed to dress down because of that.

She said that some significant (?) criminal had been killed in her neighborhood 2 weeks ago and people had been on edge since then. She seemed to say the police in Poblado were effective but not so much where she was (unclear if less motivated, less of them, less mandate, or what). I wasn't able to pursue nuance because of my middling spanish. :-P

Note that I've not verified any of this with anybody else yet, or heard of any other killings, but worthy of note.

I tend to be low-key as much as possible anyway, but interesting. As others have noted, we are visitors here in MDE, so best to tread lightly-- I try to take the lead from my MDE friends.

MiamiHeatLuver
03-08-09, 07:47
Saturday morning,

Just a coincidence but it does relate somewhat to what we have been trying to tell this guy. Early this morning I received an email telling me a girl I had come to know really well from My Space, and whom I eventually met in Cali was killed on Tuesday. Very sad indeed. Yes we have violence everywhere in the world, but in Colombia it is much more rampant. Below is the content from the email.

"I am sorry to inform you all that Jenny is no longer with us. She got shot to death in her hometown of Cali, Colombia, on Tuesday, March 06, at around 6:30 PM. A funeral was held here in Cali on Friday. March 6th at 3:30PM. In this senseless act of violence, a person who stole her purse also took her life from her, as a consequence, none of us will ever be able to talk or see her again"I also new her very well through friends and can vouch for Urbans Story 100%! It is a very sad traumatic day for me for she was a sweet girl. Still working on the details but I know she was killed coming out of Exito resisting robbery. Im not sure which Exito either. I was reluctant to post the details though without a link that to back it up. I just saw this girl in January at chipechape, how tragic.

Goga Fung
03-08-09, 22:33
I believe that some those "fears" a reasonable. First of all, Medellin does not seem too dangerous to me, compared to some other places I've been(in Eastern Europe). But one Colombian friend has given me a number of warnings, which I think I underestimated, but now they kinda correspond to what some people are writing here. For example he was afraid to take Metro-cable to the last stations, also walk in the Centro at night, and go to some parties which could be attended by "dangerous" people pretending to be somebody else. Some of these may sound crazy, but it is probably a good idea to listen to locals sometime. Also a taxi driver was looking at us like we were crazy going to el Centro at night, and he told me to take great care there.

Also it looks like here some people are trying to develop this idea that every colombian girl is an innocent angel, nice person, beautiful, etc.. Just because she is colombian or paisa, or whatever. I believe this is not true. Of course the majority are suposedely better than the majority of AW, but there are some really nasty girls. Some can be violent if for some reason they become upset with something. While most of the girls I've met were very nice, I've met one who turned out to be really greedy and violent while pretending and acting a good one when she was sober. I also saw that she receives dozens emails from gringos everyday, and she does not give a shit about them. She just laughs at their "love" letters and picks the most "promising" ones. She showed me some emails, were I could see that gringos are seriously are in love with her.. Later I learned my lesson about her hard way when she got drunk and showed her real face. If you feel something is wrong with her at the beginning(for example, she's too late for your meeting or she's trying to postpone sex telling some BS) walk away ASAP. They can be good actors and liars. Also if you've met her as a working girl, don't assume she does not expect money if she hangs out with you as a GF. It's better to ask her in advance if you're gonna pay her or not and how much. And if you do not know her well, I would not invite her to my place. But it's my opinion only. Cuidate mucho.

I also would guess that most likely Colombians would laugh at us if they read what most people write here. Because, when I read the thread about the country I'm originally from, I'm surprised with how much stupid ideas people come up with and what they think about girls and people in general, even those who consider themselves my country "professionals". So I would assume that in general we have no idea what we are talking about here, unless here are some real Colombians.

Dick Rambone
03-09-09, 02:28
This is a page from "El Colombiano" translated.

The fear spread leaflets in doubtful

The authorities and the Ombudsman to dismiss a real threat behind the intimidating and demanding texts not playing. In addition, security was strengthened in Medellín.

Juan Carlos Monroy Giraldo.- Medellin

Published on March 8, 2009

A pamphlet containing threats flowing from hand to hand and fear on the Internet these days to Medellin. The Government and local authorities give little credibility, but sowed fear andalusia anonymous message spread quickly and find fertile ground in the increase in homicides and gang presence.

With the threat of "time to social cleansing" the pamphlet began circulating in late February in downtown and neighborhoods such as Santo Domingo Savio, Castilla, Manrique and Moravia, among many others.

The pamphlet, written in vulgar terms and without attribution to any illegal group, the initiates against prostitutes, drug addicts, thieves and retailers of hallucinogenic drugs, who blame the increase in crime, drug addiction and even infection of AIDS. It also threatens young people to "patch in the corners drugs" and said 10 pm as the deadline for people in their homes and are "not innocent fall. "

The pamphlet has already begun to disturb the peace of communities, as Maria notes, a resident of La Esperanza, in the northeast of Medellin. "This wheel came and people started copying. If you fear generated over the last few days and is lonely night. My husband did not leave the weekend to take some beers and usually suffer and parents with their children not to go to street until late. "

However, the woman said that people in the industry, who lived in the flesh the harshest years of the conflict, have doubts about the authenticity of the pamphlet and its threats. "Illegal groups not well served, with anonymous, but came and threatened on behalf of the militias and paramilitary groups. "

The unease generated by the anonymous leaflet is also perceived in Castile, Robledo and Santo Domingo. Las Margaritas in Robledo, a young man said, there are combos that intimidate and extort. "And now with the pamphlets, people lock themselves up early. "

In Santo Domingo, or the Popular Granizal, many residents began to leave the street after 10 pm. "People do not leave with so much tranquility and bars and close early. But in recent days security was stepped up, " said a community leader.

Although these and other sectors of the city no one realizes the source and authors of the threats, murders that have been submitted and the presence of combos crime they face in neighborhoods such as Santo Domingo, is the setting for which revived fears.

"There is fear because they have killed many people and there was shooting between combos. The worst thing is that people can not move from one neighborhood as Nuevo Horizonte Granizal to Santo Domingo or the threat of combos. And now these pamphlets troublemaker more fear, "says a young industry.

Because of this climate of tension last Friday the residents of the commune 1 staged a March to protest against violence. In the last two weeks will strengthen security.

But there are also people and leaders who are asking the community not to believe in threats that seek to create anxiety. "We can not let ourselves be intimidated with the first paper to appear anonymous and that spreads like a rumor, " says Jorge de la Cruz, a resident of Santo Domingo.

Demobilized contacted by this newspaper also dismissed. "The guerrillas and the self-imposed curfews when we attribute it to show presence. This is just to generate fear, " said a demobilized from the AUC s.

Campaign of fear unfounded

The authorities in Medellin, the pamphlet lacks credibility, so they call on citizens not to leave anonymous messages to terrorize any obscure.

"It has merit. Was investigated and the conclusion is circulated on a massive scale by curious citizens. Such pamphlets have already been seen here and in other cities to generate fear and misinformation. So we asked the community not to reproduce it only creates an unfounded fear, "the secretary of government of Medellín, María Jesús Ramírez.

Indeed, the same pamphlet and circulated in the municipalities of Itagui, Bello, Andes and Urabá by the Internet.

Police and the Ombudsman also dismissed Medellin a real threat to these texts (see views).

One particular voice that adds to the appeal so as not to spread fear is that of Colonel (r) Ricardo Manuel Salgado, former director of the SIJIN of Police and now a professor of Criminal Law and the University of Medellin.

"In his language development and demonstrates that seeks to intimidate, overnight cleaning areas where drug addicts, prostitutes and common criminals, people who are I'll in any sector of the population, " said Salgado.

As background, the authors recall a similar pamphlet that circulated last year in Santa Lucia, on behalf of the Black Eagles. This was an attempt to end several people uncomfortable to end the course and the noise of young people late at night.

Parcero
03-09-09, 05:22
Things have certainly changed in the last couple of weeks!!

Many of the places that serve the late-night crowd have been empty.

There are military police everywhere.

It is great that they are not allowing two guys on a motorcycle anymore.

Barrio Castilla last night had lots of people, but about a half as much as usual.

Buenas Aires two nights in a row, hardly even a street crowd.

Today, women´s day there were lots more people out and about.

Two nights ago, in barrio San Javier we were there when the curfew cops came and picked up one of the locals just for walking on the street.

After that time, we were the ONLY people on the street when we went looking for a taxi.

It is always good to be mindfull of the ever present danger that exists in any city but even more so in a city that once was one of the most violent cities ever.

Always be safe and consider your surroundings.

Frank Casio
03-09-09, 23:29
It was in Medellin that Uribe and his Military Police first destroyed the Escobar Cartel. He uses the Military as Police in the whole country to fight even the all powerful FARC which used to dominate all the highways, back when nobody could leave the cities without putting themselves in danger! This was less than 8-10 years ago! That's why we are all here now, because the Military Police protects the whole country!

The same Military police that patrols all the highways and byways exiting the cities in Colombia, is the same Military police that patrols the streets in Medellin, keeping them safe! They're all over El Centro and La Mayorista, and they are not corrupt like in Costa Rica and Brazil where Americans are afraid of them! Often they go after the cocaine dealers to arrest them in front of everybody, never consumers, since there is a degree of tolerance towards consumption of Cocaine and Marihuana in small quantities ! They shake down the "traffickers", and unfortunately sometimes they do accept a little bribe here and there, they're not perfect, but they keep them on their toes! Not only don't they harrass the normal citizen, but protect them and are quick to response to any act of violence! Colombia's Military often moves their police force around, specially when they suspect that they're getting to "cozy" with the local drug dealers! They just re-shuffle them so they lose all of their connections, very smart!

Colombian police are taught to "serve and protect", from the Chief In Command, President Uribe, who, by the way, Colombians want to re-elect to a 3rd term, but unlike Chavez, Uribe, believes and respects "democracy"! The Military Police here is praised and encouraged to "Protect and Serve", and they take pride in doing this! They're hawks at protecting the subway system, I've been turn away at least once and questioned another time for looking a little "too tipsy"! They just told me to hop on a bus or a taxi where less restrictions apply! They were nice enough to direct me to the bus stop for Envigado from El Centro! This was at 4AM in the morning when the subway re-opens! I was being a "typical Paisa" and was trying to safe on the "Taxi Fare"!

This "Pride" to "Protect and Serve" comes straight from "The Top", from the man who destroyed the Cartels and saved and restored Colombia, Presidente Uribe! With a little help from good old USA (4 billion US$ given to President Uribe by the last administration to fight "terrorrism", and protect our "american's asses" down here), for which I'm thankfull for!

On a lighter note, my first house in El Trianon, Envigado was very closed to a house owned by Escobar's Mom! Escobar is now burried in Itagui, near La Mayorista and The International Club (Sriptease Bar)! When Escobar's entire Cartel was destroyed, many of the little shops in Envigado which where used to launder money for Escobar, found themselves with a business and cash that nobody ever claimed!

The cartel was wiped off the face of the Earth, and apparently the police didn't have enough records to know which businesses where legite, hence, a few locals, quite a few, found themselves set up for life! So in Envigado, a very quiet community, no prostitution, Zona Rosa "La Bota Del Dia", like Parque Lleras, you will never Know which shop owner once laundered for Escobar ! Many people did that "back in the days" (a little Lancaster,PA slang) !

Frank Casio!

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.Hey Guys,

Sunday News "Head Lines" from El Colombiano, "SECURITY DEFEATS FEAR IN THE STREETS"- fears from the Social Cleansing Pamphlet ! This has been my whole point (read above) !

Point Made ! This government´s security defeated a 20,000 strong FARC and relegated it to the Jungles and Venezuela ! Did anyone really think Colombia´s Military Police could not protect its citizens from a handfull of frustrated "Vigilantes" ?

Frank Casio !

Tom 33
03-10-09, 13:56
Did anyone really think Colombia´s Military Police could not protect its citizens from a handfull of frustrated "Vigilantes" ?

Frank Casio !Yes, I have my doubts as do most Paisas. You ought to try your fluent Spanish and actually speak to the people who live here.

Vigilantism is alive and well in Colombia - unfortunately.

Do you even know who controls la Mayorista? Hint: It isn't the police.

Ricker
03-10-09, 19:45
... Do you even know who controls la Mayorista? Hint: It isn't the police.Funny you mention that.

Last time I was at the Mayorista, I saw a chica that I know from there sobbing.
She's the little but large chest morena that Col Bog loved so.

Anyway, she had just been banned from the Mayorista by "los muchachos" for fighting with another chica.

She said she would be harmed if she came back "sin permiso" (permission).

Frank Casio
03-11-09, 00:36
Yes, I have my doubts as do most Paisas. You ought to try your fluent Spanish and actually speak to the people who live here.

Vigilantism is alive and well in Colombia - unfortunately.

Do you even know who controls la Mayorista? Hint: It isn't the police.Tom,

The police allows whoever they want to control, La Mayorista or any place where drugs are tolerated! I'm there all the time Tom, where are you? Hidden and tucked away in El Poblado? Of course the Police is not going to deal the drugs themselves! Wherever in Medellin there is a tolerence for drugs in small amounts, the police allows some of these "underworld elements" to control the trade! What else are they going to do, sell it themselves? The police is there to control the situation and prevent "violent" crimes!

I know all the people in control of La Mayorista (the lower escalon), they run away like scared rats everytime the police decides to raid them, and if the police is in a good mood, they might allow them to pay a $500, 000cop fee to keep on working! If their in a bad mood or hear to many complaints regarding these folks, they arrest them! The police is there to protect the people and control the situation! It's a tolerance area for prostitution and small amounts of drugs!

Like El Periodista in El Centro where they actually sell "marihuana joints" openly! You see all the "preppy kids" there smoking their joints! Again, the police is there to protect and control the situation, not to sell drugs, hence, somebody else has to do it and it's not going to be your "local school Teacher"! In any of these areas, if the local dealer starts to get out of hand, they dissappear, like the last one in La Mayorista "El Raton" ("the rat", thus nicked named because he looked like a "rat"), and somebody nicer, attracting less attention to himself, is put in his place!

Does that answer your question Tom? Regarding if I know whose in charge of La Mayorista! Do you think I can be there 2-3 times a week for a year and not know! I don't associate with them, but I know who they are!

Frank Casio!

Relapse1952
03-11-09, 16:10
I don't have a dog in this discussion, but last night the old woman said she heard Medellin was putting a 1000 new police on the street.

Relapse

Kodyhead
05-26-09, 05:07
Hi guys,

I am going to Medellin in a few weeks, has there been any update about this threat?

Or have they killed everyone in this thread?I got back, and this thread was blown way out of proportion, as of May 2009.

I read numerous reports on this site, got all excited about Medellin, bought tickets, reservation at El Castillo, and came close to canceling the trip after reading this thread. I am glad I didn't.

Tom 33
05-26-09, 12:59
I got back, and this thread was blown way out of proportion, as of May 2009.

I read numerous reports on this site, got all excited about Medellin, bought tickets, reservation at El Castillo, and came close to canceling the trip after reading this thread. I am glad I didn't.I am glad that you had a good time. However, President Uribe apparently does not share your opinions:


Colombia's National Police Commissioner Oscar Naranja returned to Medellin Tuesday to lead the fight against the criminal gangs of drug traffickers, whose dispute over the control of illegal businesses has unleashed an increase in violent deaths in the country's second largest city.

The anarchy of the largest criminal gangs in the department Antioquia aroused after the capture of crime bosses 'Don Mario' and 'Douglas, President Uribe said Monday before announcing he was sending Naranjo to Medellin for the second time. Medellín saw a sharp increase in violence also before the arrest of these drug lords.

After reviewing the situation of violence in Medellin with the military and police commanders, Uribe stressed that the authorities can not reconcile with those criminal gangs, or deal with appeasement, but demand all determination to solve this problem.

Last weekend at least five people were assassinated in the capital of Antioquia: two while driving in their car and three others in an elevator in the South of Medellín.

It is the second time this year Naranjo is dispatched to Medellin, where violence continued despite his earlier visit and severe security measures."

May, 2009You can find many articles similar to this in English in http://colombiareports.com/.

We have some very serious problems these days in Medellín.

Kodyhead
05-26-09, 20:37
I am glad that you had a good time. However, President Uribe apparently does not share your opinions:

You can find many articles similar to this in English in http://colombiareports.com/.

We have some very serious problems these days in Medellín.This may all be true, but the impression I got from reading this thread, was that they were killing gringos, and girls servicing Gringos. However, I was talkng to some people from Colombia, and I was discussing the heavy security at the airport coming back, which actually made me feel more comfortable that The plane wasn't going to be blown up or flown into a building somewhere, had to do with the article you shared.

Tom 33
05-27-09, 12:20
This may all be true, but the impression I got from reading this thread, was that they were killing gringos, and girls servicing Gringos. However, I was talkng to some people from Colombia, and I was discussing the heavy security at the airport coming back, which actually made me feel more comfortable that The plane wasn't going to be blown up or flown into a building somewhere, had to do with the article you shared.Gringos never were a particular target. Of course they do try to get over on us from time to time.

The limpieza social(social cleaning) has targeted prostitutes. But that is nothing new.

Sailor Jim
05-18-11, 20:49
Gringos never were a particular target. Of course they do try to get over on us from time to time.

The limpieza social (social cleaning) has targeted prostitutes. But that is nothing new.2010 limpeaza was not a big deal and this year there was not one at all. No gringos were maimed or killed. There is no reason to fear this. Just stay out of bad areas, especially at night and you will be fine. If you are still worried have a local with you.

Admin2
10-21-12, 13:53
I've been trying to use the Medellin forum while I'm here and for some reason some of you guys seem to think that criticizing or reviewing other guys posts on the pussy threads is what this forum is about. It's not, and doing that creates and environment that inhibits growth of the forum because seriously people don't want to deal with your bullshit.

So here's the deal, post it here. You can post all of that stupid, idiotic shit here. The "Medellin Reports" thread is now criticism free.

A2

Blue Touch
10-20-17, 19:57
You should have kicked her out of the room, and told papasan to bring another girl. That's why you go to casas rather than street.


Long hair, tattoo of some latin phrase on her right side. Avoid, literally the worst hooker I have ever fucked in Latin America. Wanted 100 k for a BBBJ, passed, was looking at her phone while she sort of pumped my dick. Then kind of blew me, more like sticking my cock in a glass of warm water than getting a BJ.

My dick was mostly hard so I started fucking her and the whole time she was reaching between her legs to make sure the condom was on asking me if I was finished.

I gave up after ten minutes and she tried to tell me I had been there for a half hour.

Literally the worst session I've ever had in Latin America.

Admin2
10-21-17, 13:55
You should have kicked her out of the room, and told papasan to bring another girl. That's why you go to casas rather than street.Man, thank you soooooo much, why didn't I just think about that? Why didn't I just think about kicking a chick out of my room and demanding that they bring me a new one in a casa that I had never, ever been to before in my life?

Why wouldn't I do that, hmmmmm. Well maybe for starters since I fucking live in South America and have a pretty good handle on how Latins think, maybe, just maybe in the back of my mind I was was unsure of how that would have been received by the management. Maybe, since I was there with a buddy of mine and he goes there often and I was unsure of the etiquette I didn't want to take the chance on damaging the good reputation he had developed in that house? You may or may not be aware of this but all over Latin America you are judged by the company you keep.

Mostly though, I didn't do it because it wasn't that important. I don't come here for vacations, this is my life, there is always more pussy and now that three other guys have chimed in about her she will make less money and I fucking GUARANTEE you that Sofi wasted no fucking time at all in telling her about the money she missed out on. I know that because, like I said, I live down here, I understand Latinas. The first one may have made 20 K for a shitty session but the second one made 75 K for a good one and no doubt she was talking about it in the break room.

So anyway, thanks for being a fucking douche and motivating me to make this thread. I suggest you start posting all the stupid shit you think people want to read here because I'm going to make it a mission to sit on your posts for awhile. Guys like you fuck up forums like this and I'm kinda sick of it happening. I've been here for a month and I've met a lot of guys and the number one reason for the guys who don't use the forum is assholes like you.

A2.

Mr Enternational
10-21-17, 17:23
Man, thank you soooooo much, why didn't I just think about that? Why didn't I just think about kicking a chick out of my room and demanding that they bring me a new one in a casa that I had never, ever been to before in my life?

Why wouldn't I do that, hmmmmm. Well maybe for starters since I fucking live in South America and have a pretty good handle on how Latins think, maybe, just maybe in the back of my mind I was was unsure of how that would have been received by the management. Maybe, since I was there with a buddy of mine and he goes there often and I was unsure of the etiquette I didn't want to take the chance on damaging the good reputation he had developed in that house? You may or may not be aware of this but all over Latin America you are judged by the company you keep.Sorry man but this is so funny on so many levels. You live in South America and you KNOW how Latinas think, yet you are UNSURE how management would have taken it that you are a customer and want to get what you paid for? And what is all of this etiquette and being judged by the company you keep shit? You were in a HOREHOUSE, not a meeting with the head of state. If every monger was like you and did not want to rock the boat by complaining about the chick then shit would go on and on and never get fixed.

El Mechanico
10-21-17, 20:24
I've been trying to use the Medellin forum while I'm here and for some reason some of you guys seem to think that criticizing or reviewing other guys posts on the pussy threads is what this forum is about. It's not, and doing that creates and environment that inhibits growth of the forum because seriously people don't want to deal with your bullshit.

So here's the deal, post it here. You can post all of that stupid, idiotic shit here. The "Medellin Reports" thread is now criticism free.

A2A2, why not just block / delete / suspend for 60 days / increase fees for anyone deemed an antagonist! Some derive self worth & self importance from trying to bring everyone else down. It is on every board I'm on, mongering and others! Just a suggestion.

El Mechanico.

Admin2
10-21-17, 21:09
Sorry man but this is so funny on so many levels. You live in South America and you KNOW how Latinas think, yet you are UNSURE how management would have taken it that you are a customer and want to get what you paid for? And what is all of this etiquette and being judged by the company you keep shit? You were in a HOREHOUSE, not a meeting with the head of state. If every monger was like you and did not want to rock the boat by complaining about the chick then shit would go on and on and never get fixed.Yours made me laugh as well. You are indeed a funny guy.

Admin2
10-21-17, 21:12
A2, why not just block / delete / suspend for 60 days / increase fees for anyone deemed an antagonist! Some derive self worth & self importance from trying to bring everyone else down. It is on every board I'm on, mongering and others! Just a suggestion.

El Mechanico.You can't stop trolls, there will always be guys who's lives suck so bad the only place they feel important is harassing people online. If I suspend him for 60 days he will make a new account. It will be unpopular with some of the seniors here, but it will result in more people putting up more reports.

Threads like this give the trolls a place to be idiots while the serious pussy hounds can just get their info on the real threads.

Blue Touch
10-21-17, 22:53
Yes, you maybe right, I may be wrong. Doesn't matter. It is your money. Have fun there.


Man, thank you soooooo much, why didn't I just think about that? Why didn't I just think about kicking a chick out of my room and demanding that they bring me a new one in a casa that I had never, ever been to before in my life?

Why wouldn't I do that, hmmmmm. Well maybe for starters since I fucking live in South America and have a pretty good handle on how Latins think, maybe, just maybe in the back of my mind I was was unsure of how that would have been received by the management. Maybe, since I was there with a buddy of mine and he goes there often and I was unsure of the etiquette I didn't want to take the chance on damaging the good reputation he had developed in that house? You may or may not be aware of this but all over Latin America you are judged by the company you keep.

Mostly though, I didn't do it because it wasn't that important. I don't come here for vacations, this is my life, there is always more pussy and now that three other guys have chimed in about her she will make less money and I fucking GUARANTEE you that Sofi wasted no fucking time at all in telling her about the money she missed out on. I know that because, like I said, I live down here, I understand Latinas. The first one may have made 20 K for a shitty session but the second one made 75 K for a good one and no doubt she was talking about it in the break room..

Sam2015
11-03-17, 17:06
Literally the worst session I've ever had in Latin America.I'll venture to guess you haven't been to Ecuador. I had to bail on three sessions in the same day in Guayaquil (3 different venues). Makes a bad New Life session seem like a GFE!

PolloNegro
05-17-18, 13:31
Not only that, but he posted the same request on March 31, afterwhich Pokeris and Surf Looker responded with a list of fb pages, and here he is again with the same request not even 2 months later.That taking that keep of faith is a ***** for someone who has never been to Colombia. Pablo, Narcos, CNN, Fox News, all the bad publicity about Colombia. Many Americans need reassurance that the girls are real & the danger is minimal. It took wolf to give me a sense of ease in order for me to travel to Medellin. Being on many forums & sites I know that trolls, wise guys, Smart asses all have their 2 cents to add in to wreck your nerves. I can assure you and every other guy on this forum, you can't marry or Bang every nice looking chic in Medellin, although many on the forum keep secrets like these girls are pets in the yard chained to a pole. As I have said many times before, Money talks in Medellin, I may have spent plenty in my first few visits, now I only spend if I care to be bothered. My girl and her friends Bang me enough that I no longer look for girls in Medellin, they actually ask my girlfriend do her & I want extra company. I knew after finding a favorable chic, it would be easier to find more favorable chics. Best American trick I learned from Jim Crow is this: spoil one chic in a city of poor chics, and the rest of the chics will take notice. With that said, goal accomplished. You old guys with large egos & prostates shouldn't be so hard on the newbies. Pollonegro is out!

OldTrack
05-17-18, 15:37
Don't forget to subscribe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHHeVqHUd8kI forgot to mention this is a video a Parque LLeras.

El Mechanico
05-17-18, 16:10
You old guys with large egos & prostates ......Says the young (er) guy with the biggest ego of them all & apparently no prostate!! I was agreeing with you on this post until you threw in that smartass comment.

Lighten up a little PN.

El Mechanico.

HansLee3509
05-17-18, 16:55
In Medellin right now, been here since Tuesday, I leave Saturday. I have had 3-4 girls a day. Plus I have had my girlfriend with me on every session. I guess I'm just pushing my luck? Well I took these nice pics in front of the church, in centro, with my new Galaxy S9 and no one robbed me? My girlfriend is in the pic of the church, Go figure? I have no idea which Medellin or which Centro you all are visiting, but I been banging chics since I landed. Hey Wolf, Our friend is still at the Hotel we spoke for a while. I guess the sharks can smell prey and also the killer whales when they are out and about. I have pics and numbers for anyone interested in the honeys I saw since landing Tuesday! I have nothing but love for Medellin! Pollonegro is out!Pollo, fantastic! Sounds like you had another blast.

Mr Enternational
05-17-18, 17:33
That taking that keep of faith is a ***** for someone who has never been to Colombia. Pablo, Narcos, CNN, Fox News, all the bad publicity about Colombia. Many Americans need reassurance that the girls are real & the danger is minimal. It took wolf to give me a sense of ease in order for me to travel to Medellin. Being on many forums & sites I know that trolls, wise guys, Smart asses all have their 2 cents to add in to wreck your nerves. You old guys with large egos & prostates shouldn't be so hard on the newbies.You say that as if a thing called dumb as fuck didn't exist. You would indeed have to be dumb as fuck if you have 4 posts and two of them are the same question (that has already been answered for you personally) in the same thread. Mind you, this person's other 2 posts were about having been to 2 other destinations (still without a trip report), one of which was in the same country in question. So if they need more leaps of faith or more confirmation of women in a country THAT THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN TO, then like I said, there is a thing called dumb as fuck.

We are supposed to be all grown men here. You can not expect anyone to lead you around by the dick and stick it into the pussy for you. Once someone gives you information then you have to be man enough to put it to use and not childlike asking for the same information over and over again.

A buddy of mine does the same shit. He has been asking me the same questions about Thailand for years. He has lived 3 hours from the place for the last few years and still has not gone. $150 round trip ticket. I finally told him to stop asking me shit about Thailand because he is not going if he has not been yet.

I mean seriously. Two guys personally gave you a list of facebook profiles and you have the nerve to come back to ask for more facebook profiles? I have never met a chick from facebook, but I know how to read. And I have read the explicit instruction of people saying to befriend one then click on their friends list and befriend others. The shit is not brain surgery. So to have to come back and ask if someone can show you more facebook profiles, as if they are top secret, is just fucking asinine when you can literally click on more profiles your damn self.

Balboa
05-17-18, 17:37
...As I have said many times before, Money talks in Medellin ...Really? Thanks!

No one knew that before you came along, the King of ego, LOL.

Balboa out!

BeverlyLa1234
05-17-18, 18:17
That taking that keep of faith is a ***** for someone who has never been to Colombia. Pablo, Narcos, CNN, Fox News, all the bad publicity about Colombia. Many Americans need reassurance that the girls are real & the danger is minimal. It took wolf to give me a sense of ease in order for me to travel to Medellin. Being on many forums & sites I know that trolls, wise guys, Smart asses all have their 2 cents to add in to wreck your nerves. I can assure you and every other guy on this forum, you can't marry or Bang every nice looking chic in Medellin, although many on the forum keep secrets like these girls are pets in the yard chained to a pole. As I have said many times before, Money talks in Medellin, I may have spent plenty in my first few visits, now I only spend if I care to be bothered. My girl and her friends Bang me enough that I no longer look for girls in Medellin, they actually ask my girlfriend do her & I want extra company. I knew after finding a favorable chic, it would be easier to find more favorable chics. Best American trick I learned from Jim Crow is this: spoil one chic in a city of poor chics, and the rest of the chics will take notice. With that said, goal accomplished. You old guys with large egos & prostates shouldn't be so hard on the newbies. Pollonegro is out!That was a Kobe Bryant mic drop. Preach ha.

PolloNegro
05-17-18, 19:17
Really? Thanks!

No one knew that before you came along, the King of ego, LOL.

Balboa out!That we are supposed to be grown, but its quite evident, that you older guys take pride in scaring the hell out of every Young monger. No one is going to kill you in Medellin, spending more does not make you a dummy. That limited income of SSI and pensión benefits shows you have to be keyboard savy to keep a young man with a pocket full of money away from Medellin. What I can tell you is this, Medellin has been so good to me, I have decided to go job hunting in Ft Lauderdale & Miami, easier access to Medellin. BTW, I have a prostate and it's functioning pretty good if I may say so myself. Just planning on how I'm going to retire over the next 7-8 yrs, might plant a few Pollonegros in Medellin once I settle in permanently. As for money, I was born into it, plus the kind of job I have I could always work 3 months a yr , LOL, pollonegro is out.

El Mechanico
05-17-18, 20:06
As I have said many times before, Money talks in Medellin,As it does in USA, Guat, Mex, CR, RD, UK, Germany, Japan, Thailand, Brazil & _ (fill in any other country / city in the world)!

El Mechanico is out!

Surfer500
05-17-18, 20:21
You old guys with large egos & prostates shouldn't be so hard on the newbies. Pollonegro is out!A recent study concluded that Ego increased between the ages of 43 to 61 years old which confirms what your saying. For the members of this board who fall within the above age range we have been put on notice and we need to immediately let go of our egos by practicing forgiveness, gratitude, honesty, enjoying our silent moments, and surrender the need for control for the benefit of the younger members of this board.

PolloNegro
05-17-18, 21:57
As it does in USA, Guat, Mex, CR, RD, UK, Germany, Japan, Thailand, Brazil & _ (fill in any other country / city in the world)!

El Mechanico is out!You can dish it, I know you can take it. All is well in Fun & Games, Pollonegro is out!

PolloNegro
05-18-18, 00:20
A recent study concluded that Ego increased between the ages of 43 to 61 years old which confirms what your saying. For the members of this board who fall within the above age range we have been put on notice and we need to immediately let go of our egos by practicing forgiveness, gratitude, honesty, enjoying our silent moments, and surrender the need for control for the benefit of the younger members of this board.I nearly pissed my pants. Then again my PSA numbers aren't around the numbers when you vets begin to dribble, I do release a maximum flow, without the need for Flomax! More girls less talk! Pollonegro is out!

Knowledge
05-18-18, 02:10
A recent study concluded that Ego increased between the ages of 43 to 61 years old which confirms what your saying. For the members of this board who fall within the above age range we have been put on notice and we need to immediately let go of our egos by practicing forgiveness, gratitude, honesty, enjoying our silent moments, and surrender the need for control for the benefit of the younger members of this board.OK, I accept that, but what can I do about my prostate? LOL!

Balboa
05-18-18, 04:19
That we are supposed to be grown, but its quite evident, that you older guys take pride in scaring the hell out of every Young monger. No one is going to kill you in Medellin, spending more does not make you a dummy. That limited income of SSI and pensin benefits shows you have to be keyboard savy to keep a young man with a pocket full of money away from Medellin. What I can tell you is this, Medellin has been so good to me, I have decided to go job hunting in Ft Lauderdale & Miami, easier access to Medellin. BTW, I have a prostate and it's functioning pretty good if I may say so myself. Just planning on how I'm going to retire over the next 7-8 yrs, might plant a few Pollonegros in Medellin once I settle in permanently. As for money, I was born into it, plus the kind of job I have I could always work 3 months a yr , LOL, pollonegro is out.Excellent for you Pollo! We’re all thrilled for you!

By the way; I'm not old, I'm not retired, I have money as well, but I don't brag about it.

I'm not trying to scare anyone, I could care less where anyone travels to or how much one spends anywhere.

I've been visiting and living at times in Medellin and all of Colombia for almost 20 years.

I just tell the truth, from my experiences, without all the bravado BS.

I value others' opinions.

Though I personally dislike braggers and blowhards.

I wish you and your buddies well, and great experiences.

Balboa is out!

PolloNegro
05-18-18, 13:07
Excellent for you Pollo! Were all thrilled for you!

By the way; I'm not old, I'm not retired, I have money as well, but I don't brag about it.

I'm not trying to scare anyone, I could care less where anyone travels to or how much one spends anywhere.

I've been visiting and living at times in Medellin and all of Colombia for almost 20 years.

I just tell the truth, from my experiences, without all the bravado BS.

I value others' opinions.

Though I personally dislike braggers and blowhards.

I wish you and your buddies well, and great experiences.

Balboa is out!You are more creditable than I simply because you keep your finances to yourself, all I am asking is for the scientific proof that states that your hypothesis and theory is correct. It only validates that you are an American, with a quick comeback and ability to type into a keyboard or phone, that Ego and Prostate just won't stop inflating will it, PolloNegro is out! LOL.

Balboa
05-18-18, 19:50
You are more creditable than I simply because you keep your finances to yourself, all I am asking is for the scientific proof that states that your hypothesis and theory is correct. It only validates that you are an American, with a quick comeback and ability to type into a keyboard or phone, that Ego and Prostate just won't stop inflating will it, PolloNegro is out! LOL.No, I'm just more humble, LOL.

What hypothesis?

What theory?

Listen, I wish you well.

You're obviously a young dude with lots of energy.

You're pretty quick on the keyboard as well by the way, with no lack of ego, LOL.

Go have fun!

Enjoy your girls and money.

All this really doesn't matter.
I’m actually running around Medellin now and this weekend, I’d buy ya a drink if you were around.

Balboa is out!!

For real this time, LOL.

PolloNegro
05-18-18, 22:29
No, I'm just more humble, LOL.

What hypothesis?

What theory?

Listen, I wish you well.

You're obviously a young dude with lots of energy.

You're pretty quick on the keyboard as well by the way, with no lack of ego, LOL.

Go have fun!

Enjoy your girls and money.

All this really doesn't matter.
Im actually running around Medellin now and this weekend, Id buy ya a drink if you were around.

Balboa is out!!

For real this time, LOL.I will be back next Wednesday. Maybe I can catch you then.

Balboa
05-19-18, 04:47
I will be back next Wednesday. Maybe I can catch you then.I'm heading to So Paulo and Rio in Brazil on Monday, but back in Medellin the first week of June.

Had a full day in Centro today, streets and clubs, sitting in Fase Dos now as a matter of fact, just to check it out.

I'll report the day in the reports section.

Great day!
And the night is still young :)

Mr Enternational
05-28-18, 10:46
My first night was Halloween and I meet this Venezuelan in a bar. We exchanged numbers and I meet her for a night soon after. She was a stunner six foot breast implants and an ass from the God's.Was God the name of the doctor that did her ass implants?


I visited new life about five times 150,000 each time.150,000 at NL? What did you get the 8-hour all you can fuck deal?


The first time with her I blew my load four times in an hour.Hmmm.

Frank Lucas
05-28-18, 18:00
Was God the name of the doctor that did her ass implants?

150,000 at NL? What did you get the 8-hour all you can fuck deal?

Hmmm.I was amazed as well but could be that he got the 1 hour 15 deal for 95 K then tipped 55 K.

Only know because I read a similar story somewhere else, LOL.

150 K at New Life damn.

Knowledge
05-28-18, 18:33
LOL! Maybe he bought around for the waiting rooms, that will cost a pretty penny with the number of thirsty punters who crowd the place. Most of the time it looks like a damn skid row free clinic waiting area. LOL!


I was amazed as well but could be that he got the 1 hour 15 deal for 95 K then tipped 55 K.

Only know because I read a similar story somewhere else, LOL.

150 K at New Life damn.

JimmyKerry
05-29-18, 22:53
Was God the name of the doctor that did her ass implants?

150,000 at NL? What did you get the 8-hour all you can fuck deal?

Hmmm.Very very special, congratulations. You're a good little boy.

Wild Walleye
07-27-18, 22:11
A recent study concluded that Ego increased between the ages of 43 to 61 years old which confirms what your saying. For the members of this board who fall within the above age range we have been put on notice and we need to immediately let go of our egos by practicing forgiveness, gratitude, honesty, enjoying our silent moments, and surrender the need for control for the benefit of the younger members of this board.I don't know about ego, but when I was 43, I traveled international every other week and may have had some sort of sex addiction thing going on because I banged well over 100 chicas that year and the following year and. Sometimes, I would see three chicas in a day. By the time my trip was over, there would be dust coming out of the end of my pecker.

PolloNegro
09-12-18, 22:21
I thought you said that was you?

El Mechanico.That I'm trying to figure out why there is so much complaining about prices in this forum. These girls will do nearly everything you ask, as long as your benjamins are right. I am so surprised at the lack of photos and the amount of complaining. It didn't take long for me to quickly figure out that most of those complaining are limited on one of two things. 1. Money or 2. Time, I got an abundance of both, but those who are financially stable "don't talk about it! " or so I've heard from the closet rich guys. More girls less fuss, come on guys! Pollonegro is out!

Mr Enternational
09-12-18, 23:37
Only country I've ever been you can fly from city to city round trip for $125 USD.Surely you jest. Or either the guy with unlimited funds has not been to many countries. I regularly do a 3 hour international roundtrip Manila to Bangkok for that price. I remember me and another board member bought a ticket from Angeles City to Bangkok for $1! Europe has Ryan Air. Asia has Air Asia.

PolloNegro
09-13-18, 05:55
Rather contradictory. Since you have been posting here, you have talked about your abundance of funds.Abundance of funds, and it allows me to have my way in Medellin. In life, you get what you pay for, so why complain? More girls, less complaining please! Pollonegro is out!

El Mechanico
09-13-18, 15:02
T1. Money or 2. Time, I got an abundance of both, but those who are financially stable "don't talk about it! " We appreciate your posts but we (and you) could really do without all the self glossing about how much $ you have. Or the contradictions that you have in every post. We don't care, we simply don't care about how much money you have!! You chastise guys for paying $100 USD then in the next or previous sentence you brag about paying 800 K COP. Really??

El Mechanico.

PolloNegro
09-14-18, 03:13
We appreciate your posts but we (and you) could really do without all the self glossing about how much $ you have. Or the contradictions that you have in every post. We don't care, we simply don't care about how much money you have!! You chastise guys for paying $100 USD then in the next or previous sentence you brag about paying 800 K COP. Really??

El Mechanico.I make that $800 cop last a full 24 hours. Make no mistake, I have an abundance of cash, but I'm not a fool with it either. You senior guys have to stop taking my post personal, clearly I must be telling the truth or stepping on toes for you to call me contradictory. No way have I or will I ever pay $600 mil pesos for a 1. 5 hour session, not as long as girls walk Vera cruz and perform for $30 mil pesos. Face it, if you're in Poblado, you're paying for safety, not better vaginal services. Leave the vaginal inspection to the OBGYN professionals, are you one? I think not! Pollonegro is out!

PolloNegro
09-14-18, 03:21
Surely you jest. Or either the guy with unlimited funds has not been to many countries. I regularly do a 3 hour international roundtrip Manila to Bangkok for that price. I remember me and another board member bought a ticket from Angeles City to Bangkok for $1! Europe has Ryan Air. Asia has Air Asia.If Asia has $1 flights? I find it amazing the deals that you seniors find, even more amazing that you post it. The valuable information is never posted, I wonder why?

Goferring
09-14-18, 11:46
If Asia has $1 flights? I find it amazing the deals that you seniors findNo need to find them, they find me. All the airlines I use provide price alerts. I just let them know I want to go from Here to There for less than $X and they send me a message when flights become available.

JjBee62
09-14-18, 12:52
I make that $800 cop last a full 24 hours. Make no mistake, I have an abundance of cash, but I'm not a fool with it either. You senior guys have to stop taking my post personal, clearly I must be telling the truth or stepping on toes for you to call me contradictory. No way have I or will I ever pay $600 mil pesos for a 1. 5 hour session, not as long as girls walk Vera cruz and perform for $30 mil pesos. Face it, if you're in Poblado, you're paying for safety, not better vaginal services. Leave the vaginal inspection to the OBGYN professionals, are you one? I think not! Pollonegro is out!A long time ago, I rented a spare room to a guy who worked for me. I had a neighbor at the time who used to come by on occasion, when her husband was out of town. Once the roommate moved in, she would just walk over and ask me if I could fix her sink, or help hang a picture and we'd go back to her house. After 4 or 5 times the roommate tells me, "she's always coming over here. Clearly she's hot for me."

One possibility is that you're stepping on toes. The other possibility is that you're being contradictory.

Okay, you make 800 k last for 24 hours. Your 30 k Veracruz girl needs to ride 26 dicks in 24 hours and hope for 20 k in tips to match that. Now, I'm guessing you're probably not busting 26 times every 24 hours and I'm also guessing at least some of that time is down time, unless you're coking up for several days straight. Actually, if you're doing coke 24/7 everything fits.

Those Veracruz girls are doing great if they make 150 k per day. If they break 200, they've hit the lottery. Most days they're happy to hit 100 k. So, 800 k to put up with one dick, is probably better than hoping for 5 dicks. I know if someone offers me one month of my current pay to work for 1 day, I'm calling in sick.

Now take the guys staying in Poblado. They're paying 200 k for 1 to 4 hours, or 400 k for 8 to 12 hours. If they want, they're spending 14-18 hours of the day with 2 to 4 girls, including 1 overnight and they're paying about the same amount as you're paying. Yet you want to argue that you're getting a bargain, while they are paying too much.

Yes, there are guys paying $200 - $300 for an hour. You won't find many of them here. They don't go places looking for cheap sex, they are out to party. They'll drop $1000 on a bar tab without a thought. I've seen them walk into a bar, 4 guys and 6 girls, grab another 6 girls and head back to their $800 night penthouse to party. That's their thing, but it's not mongering. Most of that type wouldn't believe you if you told them the girl they just gave $200 to was a prostitute.

You have lots of money. That's great. You have lots of free time. That's fantastic. You have 20 girls who will do what you want for what you want to pay. Super. However, there's really no benefit to constantly criticize others for A. Not having as much money as you, be. Not having as much free time as you, see. Spending their money the way they want, and the. Not doing things the way you do.

PolloNegro
09-14-18, 19:01
A long time ago, I rented a spare room to a guy who worked for me. I had a neighbor at the time who used to come by on occasion, when her husband was out of town. Once the roommate moved in, she would just walk over and ask me if I could fix her sink, or help hang a picture and we'd go back to her house. After 4 or 5 times the roommate tells me, "she's always coming over here. Clearly she's hot for me."

One possibility is that you're stepping on toes. The other possibility is that you're being contradictory.

Okay, you make 800 k last for 24 hours. Your 30 k Veracruz girl needs to ride 26 dicks in 24 hours and hope for 20 k in tips to match that. Now, I'm guessing you're probably not busting 26 times every 24 hours and I'm also guessing at least some of that time is down time, unless you're coking up for several days straight. Actually, if you're doing coke 24/7 everything fits.

Those Veracruz girls are doing great if they make 150 k per day. If they break 200, they've hit the lottery. Most days they're happy to hit 100 k. So, 800 k to put up with one dick, is probably better than hoping for 5 dicks. I know if someone offers me one month of my current pay to work for 1 day, I'm calling in sick..But if you read it slowly, clearly, it takes 2 to disagree, & from my recollection, only the senior, wise men know everything. May I appear critical, because it was I who was first criticized? That could never be the case though, the senior wise men would never do that. Remember, what works for one, may not work for all.

The Tall Man
09-15-18, 20:06
A long time ago, I rented a spare room to a guy who worked for me. I had a neighbor at the time who used to come by on occasion, when her husband was out of town. Once the roommate moved in, she would just walk over and ask me if I could fix her sink, or help hang a picture and we'd go back to her house. After 4 or 5 times the roommate tells me, "she's always coming over here. Clearly she's hot for me."

One possibility is that you're stepping on toes. The other possibility is that you're being contradictory.

Okay, you make 800 k last for 24 hours. Your 30 k Veracruz girl needs to ride 26 dicks in 24 hours and hope for 20 k in tips to match that. Now, I'm guessing you're probably not busting 26 times every 24 hours and I'm also guessing at least some of that time is down time, unless you're coking up for several days straight. Actually, if you're doing coke 24/7 everything fits.

Those Veracruz girls are doing great if they make 150 k per day. If they break 200, they've hit the lottery. Most days they're happy to hit 100 k. So, 800 k to put up with one dick, is probably better than hoping for 5 dicks. I know if someone offers me one month of my current pay to work for 1 day, I'm calling in sick.

Now take the guys staying in Poblado. They're paying 200 k for 1 to 4 hours, or 400 k for 8 to 12 hours. If they want, they're spending 14-18 hours of the day with 2 to 4 girls, including 1 overnight and they're paying about the same amount as you're paying. Yet you want to argue that you're getting a bargain, while they are paying too much.

Yes, there are guys paying $200 - $300 for an hour. You won't find many of them here. They don't go places looking for cheap sex, they are out to party. They'll drop $1000 on a bar tab without a thought. I've seen them walk into a bar, 4 guys and 6 girls, grab another 6 girls and head back to their $800 night penthouse to party. That's their thing, but it's not mongering. Most of that type wouldn't believe you if you told them the girl they just gave $200 to was a prostitute.

You have lots of money. That's great. You have lots of free time. That's fantastic. You have 20 girls who will do what you want for what you want to pay. Super. However, there's really no benefit to constantly criticize others for A. Not having as much money as you, be. Not having as much free time as you, see. Spending their money the way they want, and the. Not doing things the way you do.Your statement is spot on as I have seen it played out many times: "Most of that type wouldn't believe you if you told them the girl they just gave $200 to was a prostitute. ".

The Tall Man.

Blue Touch
10-24-18, 00:23
Colombia is not a westernized country.

The more money you give or spend in the developed world, you are respected and treated as such. The more money you give and spend in Colombia, the more naive and weaker Colombians think you are. She asked for drinks and you never refused, plus the translator thing at a Centro strip club, etc, thereby gave a green light. Glad you talked to the manager.


Could have just been a one off but I had a really bad experience at Maracaibo.

First time in Colombia, I went to o Maracaibo and the owner was nice enough to show me where the ATM was like two or three blocks away. I went into the club and a woman sat next to me and started chatting me up in Spanish. My Spanish was really bad so we used a translator. I asked if she did BBBJ and she said yes and she would do anything I asked for $25 worth of pesos (I think it was 75 k pesos). I said yes and went to the back with her. She asked for the money up front and asked for me to buy her another drink. I forgot the rules that everyone tells you on this form and gave the money up front (my mistake) and bought her the 2nd drink. She sniffed some coke and got naked. Her breasts went all the way to the ground and she was chubby. She went from a 7 (I'the pay for this) to a 3 (would pass her up at a club if she threw herself at me). She then tried to put a condom on me. I told her she either gave me a BBBJ or my money back.).

Combo
10-25-18, 00:34
Colombia is not a westernized country.

The more money you give or spend in the developed world, you are respected and treated as such. The more money you give and spend in Colombia, the more naive and weaker Colombians think you are. She asked for drinks and you never refused, plus the translator thing at a Centro strip club, etc, thereby gave a green light. Glad you talked to the manager.Bingo! You are wise beyond your post count.

I'd add that the more money you give, the more likely you are to be a victim of a robbery or scam.

Paulie97
10-25-18, 01:41
Bingo! You are wise beyond your post count.

I'd add that the more money you give, the more likely you are to be a victim of a robbery or scam.So the guy set himself up to get robbed by buying the puta a second $4 beer, even though the "naive" Colombianos are in there buying them all night long on the weekends? That's why they sell them. Lolol I'm sure Blue Touch appreciates the pat on the back though. Water seeks it's own level I suppose. Guys like you are the ones that don't even tip in US restaurants. We get it.

Bingo! You are wise beyond your post count. I'd add that the more money you give, the more likely you are to be a victim of a robbery or scam.

Paulie97
10-25-18, 02:57
plus the translator thing at a Centro strip club, etc, thereby gave a green light. How many times have we heard this one? Seems some don't want the newbies in the Centro strip clubs, but keep them. The rooms are nasty. God help you if a fire breaks out while you are locked up in the attic at Bara Ejectiva. The neighborhood is depressing at night to say the least, plus plucking a diamond out of the rough can be a chore.

Most of us are never going to be fluent in Spanish so the phone / translator is going to come out at times, especially if the girl keeps talking fast. I've used the translator on well over 100 occasions and got adequate to excellent service. I've kept my phone in my pocket a number of times and gotten a bad deal. No doubt your conclusion sounds good to many ears but it doesn't follow from the evidence. There's bad putas out there, plus they know foreigners regardless of how good their Spanish is.

P.S. The guy bought the girl a second cheap beer to take in the back. Big deal. Isn't like he was making it rain on the stage.

SBTiger
10-25-18, 07:19
Colombia is not a westernized country.

The more money you give or spend in the developed world, you are respected and treated as such. The more money you give and spend in Colombia, the more naive and weaker Colombians think you are. She asked for drinks and you never refused, plus the translator thing at a Centro strip club, etc, thereby gave a green light. Glad you talked to the manager.Ok, advice noted.

Paulie97
10-25-18, 07:26
Ok, advice noted.Only problem is the affirmation had nothing to do with the price of rice in China in the context of Duncan216's report, wrong launching pad for the sermon. But carry on.

Mufasa1
11-28-18, 03:40
Hello,

Will be heading to Medellin. It has been recommended to use a credit card with no transaction fees when possible for best rates. Anyone recommend any one specific for Colombia. Also any bank that will not charge a big transaction fee when using the ATM machines. Also what bank's ATM should I use once I'm there. I tend to exchange cash but as it has been pointed out, it seems like I'm losing some money by doing that. Been to Medellin 3 times and would be happy to answer any other question.

Thanks!

Manizales911
11-28-18, 18:03
Hello,

Will be heading to Medellin. It has been recommended to use a credit card with no transaction fees when possible for best rates. Anyone recommend any one specific for Colombia. Also any bank that will not charge a big transaction fee when using the ATM machines. Also what bank's ATM should I use once I'm there. I tend to exchange cash but as it has been pointed out, it seems like I'm losing some money by doing that. Been to Medellin 3 times and would be happy to answer any other question.

Thanks!Charles Schwab. No ATM fees at any ATM anywhere in the world.

Arcangel
12-06-18, 12:24
Colombia is not a westernized country.You are confusing USA with the western world, or even the developed world. Not the same thing at all. I love Colombia because it is a western country (I. E. European heritage) that is not americanized.


The more money you give or spend in the developed world, you are respected and treated as such. This is true in USA, Dominican Republic, Haiti and such countries.


The more money you give and spend in Colombia, the more naive and weaker Colombians think you are. This is true in Colombia as in many developed and / or western countries.

JjBee62
12-18-18, 10:21
Trust you, that is.


Trust me, you're the only one who understands what "simulated GFE" is. GFE is a simulated experience by definition. So why add a second "simulated" when everyone already knows it's simulated? So when you say "simulated GFE", you are actually saying, simulated simulated GFE. Which makes no sense whatsoever.I might trust you some if you were providing anything beneficial here, but it appears you're just here to be argumentative. I suppose it's a side effect of slamming clams. You should stay away from the geoducks. They stretch you out and leave you grumpy.

If you have ever stayed at the Mansion, you might understand simulated GFE. Probably not, but I'm trying to be generous.

Because I wanted first hand experience, I spent 2 nights there. I didn't need to stay there, since I already had a nice apartment and my Spanish is good enough for me to get by. However, if I'm going to give advice to people, I prefer to have experience of my own, rather than rely on what I've heard from others.

There are a group of girls who are regulars. They are there several times a week. There are others who only come by a few times per week. Several of the girls prefer to get in 2 or 3 customers each night. They do all the basic things that most guys consider GFE. They do these things 10-20 times a week with 10 or more guys. It's like they're following a recipe.

For many of the Mansion regulars it doesn't matter. The experience is still better and cheaper, and with a much younger, prettier woman than anything they've experienced at home. However, some of us have a higher standard.

NYCassman
02-01-19, 02:50
Hello,

Will be heading to Medellin. It has been recommended to use a credit card with no transaction fees when possible for best rates. Anyone recommend any one specific for Colombia. Also any bank that will not charge a big transaction fee when using the ATM machines. Also what bank's ATM should I use once I'm there. I tend to exchange cash but as it has been pointed out, it seems like I'm losing some money by doing that. Been to Medellin 3 times and would be happy to answer any other question.

Thanks!Chase amazon prime no transaction fees.

Nyahbinghi83
02-03-19, 18:04
Does any of the girls in Santa Fe speak basic English? At least can say the prices in English? It's hard to believe they are in this business but still can't speak a few words in English to get non-Spanish speaking clients.Such arrogance! You go pussy chasing in a Spanish speaking country and you expect English on top of them fucking your sorry ass.

XBoyX
02-04-19, 07:30
Dude,

Calm down, did I talk about your family that you get so defensive? My expectations are not too high, as Colombians learn English in school as the second language so it's not surprising if they know at least few words and numbers. What's wrong with you?


Such arrogance! You go pussy chasing in a Spanish speaking country and you expect English on top of them fucking your sorry ass.

XBoyX
02-04-19, 07:39
IEven harder to believe you'd go to a Spanish-speaking country and not know at least how to say prices.

That said, you'll get by somehow. I speak Spanish, but I've been to destinations where I didn't know the language and I was able to get by.You said it's harder to believe that I'm going to Colombia without knowing Spanish, then you said you have been to the countries that you didn't know the language! See? It shouldn't be so hard to believe then.


Ever consider the Philippines? They speak English. The place is tailor made for guys like you.I lived in Philippines for 2 years few years ago and was there again 2 months ago along with Thailand and Cambodia. Been to Dubai and Ukraine too. I'm not a stupid person and will find my way or worst case scenario Google translator can help. But as Colombians study English in their school I thought it shouldn't be hard for a hooker to say her price in English.

JjBee62
02-04-19, 21:25
You said it's harder to believe that I'm going to Colombia without knowing Spanish, then you said you have been to the countries that you didn't know the language! See? It shouldn't be so hard to believe then.

I lived in Philippines for 2 years few years ago and was there again 2 months ago along with Thailand and Cambodia. Been to Dubai and Ukraine too. I'm not a stupid person and will find my way or worst case scenario Google translator can help. But as Colombians study English in their school I thought it shouldn't be hard for a hooker to say her price in English.Where did you get the information that Colombians learn English in School? Whoever the source is, you might want to disregard any other information from that source.

Some students, in some schools, take some English classes. This is by no means the majority of students and it certainly isn't true with the majority of prostitutes. Most will know a few English words, but not enough to carry on any type of transaction.

If you want to find Colombian girls who speak decent English, try hanging out in the Estrato 6 barrios. You'll get about a 30% chance there. Of course your chance of getting one to fuck you for 30 k COP is somewhere around 0.001%.

Manizales911
02-05-19, 18:16
Where did you get the information that Colombians learn English in School? They may not learn it but they are taught it. I have a daughter in the school system in Colombia and she has had english lessons for the last two years, she is ten years old.

PedroMorales
02-05-19, 18:30
You said it's harder to believe that I'm going to Colombia without knowing Spanish, then you said you have been to the countries that you didn't know the language! See? It shouldn't be so hard to believe then.

I lived in Philippines for 2 years few years ago and was there again 2 months ago along with Thailand and Cambodia. Been to Dubai and Ukraine too. I'm not a stupid person and will find my way or worst case scenario Google translator can help. But as Colombians study English in their school I thought it shouldn't be hard for a hooker to say her price in English.A Pinay camgirl I was bonking told me they have the edge over Colombians because they have much better English. Off topic but they might be better in the sack too.

WindAngel
02-05-19, 20:48
They may not learn it but they are taught it. I have a daughter in the school system in Colombia and she has had english lessons for the last two years, she is ten years old.I guess it depends on if that is general available before for the current adult population to learn it. They also may not have enough qualified teachers.

PolloNegro
02-15-19, 23:56
I lived in Medellin for 354 consecutive days, which I've stated before. I'm now back in the US, which has nothing to do with the points I made. That time started April 8, 2017 and ended March 28,2018. In 2018 alone, in less than 3 months I was in El Centro at least 75 times. I went there nearly every day, sometimes twice a day. I've been all over El Centro, from El Mirador down to the river. Between late July 2017 and when I left I probably walked 400 miles or more in El Centro. I even rode my bike through El Centro a few times. I've taken a lot of mongers and even a few Colombians and given them tours of El Centro. My last night in Medellin, I spent, until after midnight, 50' below the warzone above El Centro, hanging with some Colombian friends at their house. They all walked with me far enough down the hill to catch a taxi, because taxis won't go there at night. Now are you ready to take the rebuttal serious?

I don't try to scare new mongers. I also don't recommend they do stupid things. Quite the opposite. I've told a lot of guys how to get around in El Centro. I've also told them to find their own comfort zone. If El Centro freaks them out, they can go somewhere else. I don't try to force them to like El Centro, or to do things they aren't comfortable with.

Disrobing in an unfamiliar environment is always a risk? Always? You must be terrified of doctor's offices. For your sake, I hope you never join a gym. Oh the horror!

Disrobing in a casa is safer than disrobing in your own room. Why? Because the casa has to protect the patrons. How long would New Life be around if the girls were robbing the customers? How long would they be in business if they are letting guys in to rob and murder the customers? It's also safer because you've limited your risk. The girl isn't going to steal your laptop, or the 800 k pesos you've got stashed in your room. She's not going to drug you and clean you out. She's not going to pull out a straight razor and try to slash your throat. The only risk you face is that she'll either be lousy in bed, or she'll waste some time and you'll pay an extra $4.

The reason why it matters that every one of these girls has lots of friends and family, is that you're just another gringo. If you bring a girl to your room and then refuse to pay her because you found fault with her, she's not likely to just accept the constructive criticism. If she finds herself stuck, because she had promised the money, you agreed to pay, to someone else, she's going to call someone, crying for help. If she cries loud enough, then someone might decide you need to pay up, one way or another. It happens a few times a year in Medellin. If you're kicking out several girls, because you haven't learned how to pick them, you're eventually going to meet up with a pissed off Colombian.

No gringo ever gets killed in a casa. Gringos either get killed on the street, or in their room.

I'm not saying don't take girls to your room. I'm saying, if you make a deal with a girl, stick to the deal. Don't try to shame her. Don't try to kick her out without paying her. Give her the money and make a note not to call her again. You're out $30? $50? You're the guy who claimed to have unlimited money. Surely you can handle the cost of a meal at a decent US restaurant. If it happens in a casa, don't argue for a refund. Pay the fee and then mention the issue to the manager. Show respect, be polite and it will go a long way.

I don't provide pictures to other mongers, because a picture is worthless. You just proved that in the Bogota thread. You see a couple pictures of girls that are about average and suddenly, you're thinking you need to go to Bogota. Those pictures won't tell you anything about how those girls will respond to you. More importantly, they won't tell you where to find those girls 3 months from now.

Photosprepagos is an ad site. The girls advertising there are looking for customers. Those pictures tell you very little. Hold that picture up to your nose. Does that pussy smell clean? What about the ass? Can that picture handle a real deep throat, or is it just going to take 4 inches? Does that picture fuck like it hasn't had good dick for 3 years, or does the picture just lay there and make fake moaning noises? Was that picture taken last week, or 2 years ago? The pictures are nice to look at. That's all. You're going to have a lot of disappointing experiences if you're choosing based solely on looks, even more if you're going just off of pictures.

The only good thing about pictures is that a lot of people who will never go to Colombia, will pay for a membership so they can see pictures of the girls they'll never fuck..It was said, and I quote, I don't provide pictures to other mongers, because a picture is worthless. You just proved that in the Bogota thread. You see a couple pictures of girls that are about average and suddenly, you're thinking you need to go to Bogota. Those pictures won't tell you anything about how those girls will respond to you. More importantly, they won't tell you where to find those girls 3 months from now.

You don't provide pics because you don't have them. Only a self absorbed individual makes outlandish opinionated statements of such. Clearly you're not a doctor, cause you would know better and lets not talk about finances as the consensus thinks if you talk about money then you're broke, which is far from the truth. Never once said I haven't been to a casa, Wolf himself can vouch and tell you that he took me to my first casa in Medellin and I banged a really cute morena from Venezuela, but she didn't allow me to take pics and it was a pretty fast event, like 30 minutes. Not my kind of thing, I usually find a girl I connect with and I keep her a while, many hours like 6 or more.

Truth is, I haven't had many bad situations in Medellin, especially in Centro, because I do the one thing that most mongers should do before initiating a deal, I make my request clear, I speak Spanish fluently and treat the girls as best as I can and allow them to make more money in a day than they would probably make in a week.

Difference with me and many guys who like Casa's, I can actually say, that I have been banging some of the same chic's for over a year now. So photos and videos really count. If a board member ask me for a photo of a girl that I have had a session with, I can send the member a photo that I took with my phone, not a facebook filtered photo. They are several members who have thanked me for recommending a few girls and sending over the same girl that was in the photo and the video that I allowed them to see.

Many stories, that I read on the board I don't believe not one damn bit, I read the story and I am like, damn, there must be a different Centro, because I have been here for the past two weeks and no one has robbed me, No one has threatened to kill me, no one has threatened to kidnap me, So when many members post about there fears, that exactly what it is, there fears. I guarantee you that I am seen in Centro so much, that people actually think that I live there because I'm there so much. There is a reason that girls stand along the sidewalks in Vera Cruz, to be seen and picked up for dates. If you are only a wam bam 15 minute and damn type of dude, then Casa might be the place for you. I still feel much more safer taking a girl back to my room. Another thing that I will guarantee, a majority of the chics in Vera Cruz that stand on them sidewalks, not only sell themselves for a price, they like to have sex and if you treat them well and pay them a little more than the norm, they will screw your brains out and allow you to take Pics, Videos, take them shopping, take them to dinner and all sorts of things you can't do for multiple hours at a Cass, as I always say, All is fair and understood. Pollo Negro Is out!

Villainy
02-16-19, 04:46
I lived in Medellin for 354 consecutive days, which I've stated before. I'm now back in the US, which has nothing to do with the points I made. That time started April 8, 2017 and ended March 28,2018. In 2018 alone, in less than 3 months I was in El Centro at least 75 times. I went there nearly every day, sometimes twice a day. I've been all over El Centro, from El Mirador down to the river. Between late July 2017 and when I left I probably walked 400 miles or more in El Centro. I even rode my bike through El Centro a few times. I've taken a lot of mongers and even a few Colombians and given them tours of El Centro. My last night in Medellin, I spent, until after midnight, 50' below the warzone above El Centro, hanging with some Colombian friends at their house. They all walked with me far enough down the hill to catch a taxi, because taxis won't go there at night.I need to confirm that JjBee62 is being meticulously accurate. On my last visit to Medellin, he and another monger had been out walking some of the barrios and we met at my hotel in Laureles and walked to a restaurant and chatted for quite a while. After our other had to leave for a 'hot date', JjBee62 and I walked to the Estadio metro station. He was nothing but helpful. We both spoke Spanish well enough to get along but tall white dudes kind of stick out. So, his point of why cause a fracas for a few dollars. It's just not worth it. Move on, if you can't walk away from 30 mil ($10 US) you should be in another country, maybe Thailand or Philippines. I'm not sure how to say this, but there are a few rules of the road. (1) Don't mess with [CodeWord902] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902) girls, if you aren't sure, go elsewhere. (2) Don't give someone a reason to want to make you disappear. I'm not saying to be a doormat but be gracious when you call them out. This ain't Brooklyn / Chicago / Miami or whichever tough town you come from. This is their country, don't make them lose face. To a Latino that is almost worse than if you impregnated his sister.

Balboa
02-17-19, 00:21
Truth is, I haven't had many bad situations in Medellin, especially in Centro, because I do the one thing that most mongers should do before initiating a deal, I make my request clear, I speak Spanish fluently and treat the girls as best as I can and allow them to make more money in a day than they would probably make in a week.

Well that's key right there brotha Pollo!

Fluent Spanish, treat girls right, and Pay for what you want.

Most dudes maybe get 1 out of those 3.

Your situational awareness out in Centro is I'm sure way better than most.

Speaking spanish and experience man!

You're not the wounded duck.

Casas used to rock in Medellin!

Before the "map" and the influx, LOL.

Keep on Truckin'.

Balboa out!

JjBee62
02-17-19, 00:41
I wish you would write linearly. You bounce around like a rubber ball on meth. I'll try to split your post up into something that makes sense.


You don't provide pics because you don't have them. Only a self absorbed individual makes outlandish opinionated statements of such. Clearly you're not a doctor, cause you would know better and lets not talk about finances as the consensus thinks if you talk about money then you're broke, which is far from the truth. Never once said I haven't been to a casa, Wolf himself can vouch and tell you that he took me to my first casa in Medellin and I banged a really cute morena from Venezuela, but she didn't allow me to take pics and it was a pretty fast event, like 30 minutes. Not my kind of thing, I usually find a girl I connect with and I keep her a while, many hours like 6 or more.You're correct. I don't have photos of every girl I've been with. I don't take photos or videos of each girl, because I'm not with her to take photos. I have better things to do with my time. Actually, I have hundreds of photos, but those photos were taken, mostly during photo shoots, for a specific purpose. Some of the models I sessioned with, some I didn't.

Okay. I just realized it's going to be impossible to make any sense out of this. I'm stuck with trying to bounce in sympathy with your delusion.

I have no response to the "self absorbed" comment, because I don't want to take the time to explain irony. I also have no idea why you need to state that I'm not a doctor.

Finances? Again you've lost me. In one post you tell people not to go to casas because the girl might waste some time so you're stuck paying more. Then you say casas won't give refunds to unhappy mongers. Finally you follow it up with being able to pay a girl in your room 20 k and kick her out if you're not happy. Now you don't want to talk about finances?


Many members have asked me the location to Casas and I just don't know where the casa's are and I never have sex in the Casa's.Pardon me for assuming this means you don't go to casas. As I've said way too many times, do what works for you. If you prefer to have girls in your room, have them in your room. If you prefer casas, streetwalkers, bar girls or the trannies by Parque Botero, do that. You prefer long sessions. You prefer to take pictures and video. You prefer to pay more than guys normally pay. Do what makes you happy.

The don't part is, don't tell people going to casas is unsafe, when by your own admission, you don't go to casas (except 1 time).


Truth is, I haven't had many bad situations in Medellin, especially in Centro, because I do the one thing that most mongers should do before initiating a deal, I make my request clear, I speak Spanish fluently and treat the girls as best as I can and allow them to make more money in a day than they would probably make in a week.Looks like I need to quote you again.


What does me kicking several girls out have to do with them having cousins, brothers & friends.Is it, that you haven't had many problems, or that you've kicked several girls out? It's rather difficult to discuss anything with you when you're constantly contradicting yourself.


Difference with me and many guys who like Casa's, I can actually say, that I have been banging some of the same chic's for over a year now. So photos and videos really count. If a board member ask me for a photo of a girl that I have had a session with, I can send the member a photo that I took with my phone, not a facebook filtered photo. They are several members who have thanked me for recommending a few girls and sending over the same girl that was in the photo and the video that I allowed them to see.I've said it before. I have no desire to be a pimp. I'm not running an escort service. Because I'm not a pimp I have no reason to send photos and videos to mongers. I also don't send girls to mongers. That would be illegal in Colombia.

Also previously stated, I rarely recommend a particular girl to anyone. In the few cases when I do, pictures aren't necessary. In those situations I'm referring someone I know to someone I know. I'm not recommending a pair of tits or an ass. I'm recommending a person, with a personality, to a person with a personality. I'm making the recommendation because based on my experience, the two people will be a good match. I'm not doing it because the guy is looking for a particular body type.


Many stories, that I read on the board I don't believe not one damn bit, I read the story and I am like, damn, there must be a different Centro, because I have been here for the past two weeks and no one has robbed me, No one has threatened to kill me, no one has threatened to kidnap me, So when many members post about there fears, that exactly what it is, there fears. I guarantee you that I am seen in Centro so much, that people actually think that I live there because I'm there so much. There is a reason that girls stand along the sidewalks in Vera Cruz, to be seen and picked up for dates. If you are only a wam bam 15 minute and damn type of dude, then Casa might be the place for you. I still feel much more safer taking a girl back to my room. Another thing that I will guarantee, a majority of the chics in Vera Cruz that stand on them sidewalks, not only sell themselves for a price, they like to have sex and if you treat them well and pay them a little more than the norm, they will screw your brains out and allow you to take Pics, Videos, take them shopping, take them to dinner and all sorts of things you can't do for multiple hours at a Cass, as I always say, All is fair and understood. Pollo Negro Is out!I'm pretty sure you're confusing me with someone else, either that or there's a good reason why your post is incoherent.

I don't write about El Centro being a deathtrap. I've told the facts about El Centro. I've told people how to avoid problems, wherever they go. Unlike several other guys I've never told people not to go to El Centro. However, if you make a habit of "kicking several girls out", regardless of where you are in Colombia, you're running an unnecessary risk.

Here's another "don't" for you: Don't guarantee things you can't back up. Unless you've had sex with the majority of the girls in Veracruz, along with taking them to dinner, taking them shopping and taking pics and videos of them, you can't say what the majority will allow. I'm sure many of them are just as you say. But that really doesn't matter. Nobody goes to a casa to take a girl to dinner. Nobody goes to a casa to take a girl shopping. Almost nobody goes to a casa to hangout with a girl for multiple hours. Guys go to casas for a quick, convenient fuck. If they enjoy the girl, they get her number and at a later time do whatever they want for however long they want with her.

Then again, not too many guys go down to Veracruz to find a dinner companion.

Paulie97
02-17-19, 21:00
The original question assumes a complete rookie did something stupid. Correction, did a few stupid things. 1. he went to Medellin without doing any research. 2. he accepted a initial, well above standard rate offer (in pesos). 3. he never confirmed the price. It's easy to say something is stupid, but calling it so ad nauseam doesn't make it so. 300, though on the higher end is fair for a top girl. Plus any lack in skills of negotiation is beside the point. The price was confirmed at 300 in the default currency.


Confirmed the price, because he would know many girls in Gusto ask for dollars from gringos. That's interesting. Now stupidity equates with ignorance. Looks as though you yourself are ignorant, or just like to make yourself feel important on the internet by calling others stupid. Many quote in pesos in Gusto. Anyone quoting in dollars needs to call the currency what it is.


But, let's say it happens and I happen to walk up in the middle of the heated argument between the girl and the GTC (Google Translate Commando). First thing, I get her side of the story. Next I get his side. I explain each side to the other. Then, because I'm a nice guy, I'll explain to her that he doesn't have dollars, he has pesos, and he doesn't have that much money. I'll tell her that I will get him to pay what he can and I will tell her to say "dolares" next time. Nice fantasy, saving the day for some poor hapless user of a translator app. Grandiosity at it's best, though we have no proof that you are anywhere near fluent in Spanish.


Then, I'll tell him that he fucked up. Asserting it again and again doesn't make it so. He got a price in the default currency. She fucked up if she wanted dollars.


Now assuming someone doesn't come along to rescue the GTC, he's on his own. If she makes enough noise, security or the police are likely to show up. Whose side will they take? If he's lucky he gets away with paying 500 k. If he's unlucky. Worst case, she tells the cop she's not of age, that she's using her cousin's cedula and that he knew she was only 16.You can come up will all sorts of scenarios as to why you should give into extortion. What if she demands 10 K dollars or she files a [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) complaint? The by far most likely scenario here is that she takes her 300 mil pesos and goes to buy her nose candy, provided you are man enough to stand your ground. I've stood up to extortion many times over 20 years and never seen a cop at the door.


Any time you let a situation escalate to the point where police are involved, you're swimming with the sharks. Hyperbole / exaggeration.


So, the final answer is:
1. he needs to keep the situation calm. Agreed, if possible without giving into extortion.


2. he needs to explain the confusion. Any genuine confusion about the type of currency is extremely unlikely, so you're making an invalid assumption.


3. he needs to work out a deal that she will accept. She needs to take the 300 pesos and go.


If he can talk her into 300 k, great. If she's not budging off of $300, he's better off paying it, than risking an escalation.What if she demands 10 K dolares or else? Are you still on board? Call the bluff. If the cops come you can always re-evaluate. They do this because of guys like you and others who follow your bad advice. That's the "final answer. ".

Paulie97
02-17-19, 22:08
I have no response to the "self absorbed" commentBecause there is no valid response other than agreement. Just read your posts and count the "I"s. It's all about you, how smart you are, how stupid others are, how you are the resident expert on Medellin, and how everyone should be sitting at your feet pleading for wisdom. You are hands down one of the biggest jokes I've seen on the internet. LOL.

Mr Enternational
02-18-19, 00:14
She needs to take the 300 pesos and go.

What if she demands 10 K dolares or else? Are you still on board? Call the bluff. If the cops come you can always re-evaluate. They do this because of guys like you and others who follow your bad advice. That's the "final answer. ".Same shit happened to me in Sosua. Chick called the cops saying I did not want to give the agreed upon amount. I asked the cop how much he made a month. And she wants you to believe I agreed to give her that much for a few hours? Who could be that stupid? The cop made her go home.

PolloNegro
02-18-19, 01:42
Because, Vane's list is frequently mentioned in the forum and all she does is send photos and prices, but the lord forbids that a monger named Pollo negro mention sending photos then I'm labeled a pimp? You said. I've said it before. I have no desire to be a pimp. I'm not running an escort service. Because I'm not a pimp I have no reason to send photos and videos to mongers. I also don't send girls to mongers. That would be illegal in Colombia. But you haven't had vane arrested or criticized her. Face it, you're a failed camera man who was forced out of Medellin after your coins ran out. You're also the same arrogant know it all who compared a casa to a Dr's office, but you say that I bounce around like I'm on meth? Stay out of centro and away from the magic pixi-dust made famous by Boston George & Diego. Pollo negro is Out.

JjBee62
02-18-19, 03:41
It's easy to say something is stupid, but calling it so ad nauseam doesn't make it so. 300, though on the higher end is fair for a top girl. Plus any lack in skills of negotiation is beside the point. The price was confirmed at 300 in the default currency.

That's interesting. Now stupidity equates with ignorance. Looks as though you yourself are ignorant, or just like to make yourself feel important on the internet by calling others stupid. Many quote in pesos in Gusto. Anyone quoting in dollars needs to call the currency what it is.

Nice fantasy, saving the day for some poor hapless user of a translator app. Grandiosity at it's best, though we have no proof that you are anywhere near fluent in Spanish.

Asserting it again and again doesn't make it so. He got a price in the default currency. She fucked up if she wanted dollars.

You can come up will all sorts of scenarios as to why you should give into extortion. What if she demands 10 K dollars or she files a [CodeWord902] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902) complaint? The by far most likely scenario here is that she takes her 300 mil pesos and goes to buy her nose candy, provided you are man enough to stand your ground. I've stood up to extortion many times over 20 years and never seen a cop at the door.Let me guess. You're off your medication again.

I recall the very first time you ever went to Poblado. Do you remember? I remember the second time you came to Poblado. You came specifically looking for me. I also recall all of the complaints you had about the girls. Bad service, bad odors.

Mostly I recall, towards the end of the trip when I met up with you, you went completely psycho, all because you bought pizza for a bunch of Venezuelans and they didn't say thank you. When I pointed out your expectations were too high you made me the target of your psychosis. I think I still have the WhatsApp messages. They make interesting reading, from a clinical standpoint.

On your next trip, after you came looking for me, you told me you had been drugged and robbed in Laureles. You ended up in the hospital. You suggested I write about it, but leave your name out, because you were embarrassed. I complied. You were angry because the hospital sent you a bill, I believe for 400 k and you didn't want to pay it. $133 to possibly save your life and you were angry about the cost. As before, just before the end of your trip, you went psycho again. This time because you claimed I wrote the story about you being drugged wrong. The differences were insignificant, but you were completely unhinged. I ended up having to block you here and on WhatsApp.

Now, after 2 short visits to Poblado, both in my company, with no visits to Gusto, or any other dance clubs, you're an expert on the girls who hang out in Gusto? I'll take it a step further. After all your trips, going to almost exclusively casas and El Centro strip clubs, and failing to seal the deal with a Venezuelan chica, you're an expert on the higher end girls in El Poblado?

I've talked to a few people who ran into the exact problem with a girl in Gusto quoting 200, without mentioning a currency and when they asked for clarification, discovered she meant dollars. A few people have written about similar instances, at Gusto, in the forum. In Gusto the girls are aware that a lot of the gringos there are complete rookies. They know that some of the guys aren't aware of the typical pricing. They know that some girls get $200, $300 and even more from guys in Gusto. Many of them try for dollars first.

$10 k? Now who's using hyperbole? Have you heard of a single instance of a girl from Gusto asking for anywhere near that amount? After all your trips to Gusto, has any girl from there ever asked you for $10 k? Oops. I forgot, you've never been there. Even if you went, you'd never get in, because there's a cover charge.

If a girl demands $10 k after the fact, I'll happily call the police for her. We'll have a good laugh over it. I've only had one girl try to give a price in dollars, before we met. It took about a minute on WhatsApp to get my price, in pesos.

BTW, Jim Morrison really wasn't all that special.

Now go crawl back under your rock, or should we trade WhatsApp screen captures?

PolloNegro
02-18-19, 04:16
I wish you would write linearly. You bounce around like a rubber ball on meth. I'll try to split your post up into something that makes sense.

You're correct. I don't have photos of every girl I've been with. I don't take photos or videos of each girl, because I'm not with her to take photos. I have better things to do with my time. Actually, I have hundreds of photos, but those photos were taken, mostly during photo shoots, for a specific purpose. Some of the models I sessioned with, some I didn't.

Okay. I just realized it's going to be impossible to make any sense out of this. I'm stuck with trying to bounce in sympathy with your delusion.

I have no response to the "self absorbed" comment, because I don't want to take the time to explain irony. I also have no idea why you need to state that I'm not a doctor.

Finances? Again you've lost me. In one post you tell people not to go to casas because the girl might waste some time so you're stuck paying more. Then you say casas won't give refunds to unhappy mongers. Finally you follow it up with being able to pay a girl in your room 20 k and kick her out if you're not happy. Now you don't want to talk about finances?..It is quite clear, that you can read, but your can not interpret what you read or you chose to interpret the post so that they make you feel justified in taking apart what another member writes.

1. what does taking pics have to do with making an individual a Pimp? 2. What does kicking a girl out of your room have to do with an individual being fearful of the girl's cousin and family? 3. What does me having one visit to a casa have to do with others who have reported that they have had some very bad experiences in casa's recently have to do with you being the foremost senior monger on experiences in Medellin? 4. What does visiting a casa have to do with a comparison to a Dr's office? This is where it is clear that you have a gift of deflection when you cannot account for your ridiculous posts.

Because you cannot keep up with the direction of my post, it doesn't mean that I am on Meth, what it does mean is that you are a lover of casa's and you only have enough funds to afford the wam bam thank you mam. Or am I doing what you do best, assuming? You really make the stupid thread thrive because you truly believe no one sees through you bologna, clearly we do, and many of us have professional activities that don't allow us to jump from the Medellin, Bogota, Barranquilla Sousa threads like you do. Truth is you're sitting home in the US hoping to find the finances to redeem yourself from your previous failures in Medellin. Cheer up champ, we all have bad days, sometimes 365 bad days in a foreign country. All is fair in love and mongering, Pollo Negro is Out!

Baudelairemod
02-18-19, 08:37
Because there is no valid response other than agreement. Just read your posts and count the "I"s. It's all about you, how smart you are, how stupid others are, how you are the resident expert on Medellin, and how everyone should be sitting at your feet pleading for wisdom. You are hands down one of the biggest jokes I've seen on the internet. LOL.I don't really think there is any need to escalate tones. Calling someone who's been contributing on this forum for years "one of the biggest jokes on the internet" is hardly constructive or helping to defuse the situation. Some of your points are valid so why not let them do the talking instead?

P.S. I hope '97 is not your year of birth but the again, if it is, that would explain a few things.

Paulie97
02-18-19, 09:42
I don't really think there is any need to escalate tones. Calling someone who's been contributing on this forum for years "one of the biggest jokes on the internet" is hardly constructive or helping to defuse the situation. Some of your points are valid so why not let them do the talking instead?

P.S. I hope '97 is not your year of birth but the again, if it is, that would explain a few things.Not my birth year, but your attempt to seize on that number sadly makes you a hypocrite when you object to personal attacks. Jjbee62 has brought his condescending tone, pseudo-intellectualism, personal insults, and misinformation to this forum for years and it's time to pay the piper. If you don't like it then sit your ass on the porch and watch. If he cares to respond to the scrutiny of his assertions (hope he does) then let him bring it. You though are obviously out of your league. Find yourself a comfortable seat amigo and enjoy yourself. This thread is designated for this type of discussion so save us the whining.

JjBee62
02-18-19, 16:03
I don't really think there is any need to escalate tones. Calling someone who's been contributing on this forum for years "one of the biggest jokes on the internet" is hardly constructive or helping to defuse the situation. Some of your points are valid so why not let them do the talking instead?

P.S. I hope '97 is not your year of birth but the again, if it is, that would explain a few things.You don't need to pay much attention to him. Of all the mongers I met in Medellin, he's the only one I'd steer people away from. I've met guys who I didn't connect with, guys who couldn't carry a conversation and guys who had hygiene issues. I only met one guy who alternates between reasonably normal and completely insane.

I'm not the only one on the board who has experienced his irrational behavior.

PolloNegro
02-18-19, 20:14
You don't need to pay much attention to him. Of all the mongers I met in Medellin, he's the only one I'd steer people away from. I've met guys who I didn't connect with, guys who couldn't carry a conversation and guys who had hygiene issues. I only met one guy who alternates between reasonably normal and completely insane.

I'm not the only one on the board who has experienced his irrational behavior.I met Paulie97 and we had dinner and chopped it up, he didn't smell bad or behave irrational, very professional and had a very knowledgeable conversation, you're encounter must have been at a time when he was tossing back a few or just really enjoying the good greenery. Then again, if the situation doesn't make you top monger, the entire situation is problematic huh? Just my 2.5 cents. Pollo negro is out!

Mr Enternational
02-18-19, 21:46
$10 k? Now who's using hyperbole? Have you heard of a single instance of a girl from Gusto asking for anywhere near that amount? After all your trips to Gusto, has any girl from there ever asked you for $10 k? Oops. I forgot, you've never been there. Even if you went, you'd never get in, because there's a cover charge.

If a girl demands $10 k after the fact, I'll happily call the police for her.He had a very valid question. At what point or amount do you not give in and take your chances with the police coming instead?

Paulie97
02-18-19, 22:23
Please forgive me for poking at your tender ego, and status as the smartest, most knowledgeable monger in the Medellin forum. We were having a technical debate regarding an important issue to us all, and you clearly were getting the worst of it. You were also called out for your smug, condescending attitude, something many of us have taken notice of. This hurt your feelings so badly that it illicit a kicking and screaming fit, violating personal confidences while threatening to post screenshots of private conversations. What a self-absorbed twerp. LOL You make my case for me so well.

Your butthurt post is all over the place, but I'll address a few of the relevent points.


Now, after 2 short visits to Poblado, both in my company, with no visits to Gusto, or any other dance clubs, you're an expert on the girls who hang out in Gusto? JJBee you should have finished your degree as you are constantly committing logical fallacies, hyperbole, today ad hominen, and now you've erected a strawman. I'm not an expert on anything except two professional areas. And how do you know how many times I've been to El Pablado? I haven't seen you since December of 2017. But to buttress your argument you assume I've never been back? Hilarious, lying off the cuff in spite of the fact that you can be immediately exposed. LOL Reminds me of your claim to have gotten this 4 hour GFE from a certain Facebook girl for less money than another member paid for a so so short experience. I then investigated. She's not even on your Facebook friend list. So you just make stuff up on the fly, whatever might suit your self absorbed agenda. Plus I've seen that grotesque, unkept, fuller brush above your lip along with the droop-a-long walk and weeping willow posture. One thing is very certain, these girls are thrilled when you droop out the door.


I've talked to a few people who ran into the exact problem with a girl in Gusto quoting 200, without mentioning a currency and when they asked for clarification, discovered she meant dollars. Of course you are going to say this, especially now that your back is against the wall. Given your history of logical fallacies and lying, your anecdotes have no credibility. And I know guys who've been quoted pesos there, so we have a wash. The main point still remains untouched. Pesos are the default currency in Medellin. Dollars aren't even dispensed in the ATMs. If the girl wants dollars the burden is on her to ask for them.


A few people have written about similar instances, at Gusto, in the forum. Prove it. Provide links to the posts.


In Gusto the girls are aware that a lot of the gringos there are complete rookies. They know that some of the guys aren't aware of the typical pricing. They know that some girls get $200, $300 and even more from guys in Gusto. Many of them try for dollars first. If true then they need to ask for dollars, but again, your pseudo-expertise and pontificating come with no credibility.


$10 k? Now who's using hyperbole? Have you heard of a single instance of a girl from Gusto asking for anywhere near that amount? What girls charge for sex wasn't the issue. Extortion was, and we've established that you have a limit in the matter of paying girls off. Glad to hear it.


BTW, Jim Morrison really wasn't all that special. I've hurt your feelings so badly you attack my favorite rock singer. King Baby unhinged. Love that one. LOLOLOL BTW remember what you told me about your special interests in Medellin? That conversation in the pool hall on la 70?


Crawl back under your rock Couldn't you come up with something a bit more original? Keep on drooping bro.

P.S. Folks the robbery story is true, a tranq not scope. Robbed once in a pretty long liketime at this point, not good but not too bad. Loses were very minimal. If anyone wants to know more about this experience PM me. The hospital bill was paid then reimbursed by travel insurance.

JjBee62
02-19-19, 03:33
He had a very valid question. At what point or amount do you not give in and take your chances with the police coming instead?Me? I don't, because I don't put myself in that situation. I have always made certain that the girl and I are clear about payment before she ever enters my room. Not one has ever left unhappy. Not one has ever tried to change the price.

Hypothetically, if a girl tried to raise the price on me, I'd show her our agreed price, walk her out of the building and put her in a taxi after paying the agreed price. But I'm not a newbie who is too pussy blind to make certain of the price before taking the girl from the bar.

JjBee62
02-19-19, 04:14
Because, Vane's list is frequently mentioned in the forum and all she does is send photos and prices, but the lord forbids that a monger named Pollo negro mention sending photos then I'm labeled a pimp? You said. I've said it before. I have no desire to be a pimp. I'm not running an escort service. Because I'm not a pimp I have no reason to send photos and videos to mongers. I also don't send girls to mongers. That would be illegal in Colombia. But you haven't had vane arrested or criticized her. Face it, you're a failed camera man who was forced out of Medellin after your coins ran out. You're also the same arrogant know it all who compared a casa to a Dr's office, but you say that I bounce around like I'm on meth? Stay out of centro and away from the magic pixi-dust made famous by Boston George & Diego. Pollo negro is Out.What the fuck does Vane's list have to do with anything? I've never been on her WhatsApp group. I don't believe I've ever mentioned her list. I've certainly never used her as a source of girls. What she does is her business. Why would I be criticizing her, or having her arrested. As far as I know, she's not a member of ISG.

As for labeling you a pimp, what word do you prefer? You've posted multiple times that guys should contact you and you'll set them up with girls. In this ongoing pissing match, you've mentioned, more than once, that you have been setting guys up with girls. Sounds a lot like what a pimp does. There's nothing wrong with it, it's just something I don't prefer to do.

I didn't come to Medellin as a cameraman, as I've explained before. However, there were pictures that needed to be taken and I was the person who set up the locations and the shoots. I also took photos, alongside the professional.

For the rest, I did fail. I took a long shot chance and ended up trusting the wrong person. It wasn't a total loss. There were plenty of good experiences and plenty of good people along the way. I made friends and gained knowledge. I consider it a fair trade.

Arrogant? I get that tag from a few people online, rarely from people I've met. Online it typically comes from people who are bothered by big words and complete sentences. Know it all? Not even close. However, you make it sound like knowledge is something to be avoided. I prefer to learn. If someone asks a question that I know an answer to, I'll respond. Isn't that what the forum is for?

I'll be staying out of El Centro until I return to Colombia, which will probably be sometime this summer. As for the "magic pixi-dust", I'm drug free. Nothing stronger than ibuprofen for me.

JjBee62
02-19-19, 05:42
It is quite clear, that you can read, but your can not interpret what you read or you chose to interpret the post so that they make you feel justified in taking apart what another member writes.

1. what does taking pics have to do with making an individual a Pimp? 2. What does kicking a girl out of your room have to do with an individual being fearful of the girl's cousin and family? 3. What does me having one visit to a casa have to do with others who have reported that they have had some very bad experiences in casa's recently have to do with you being the foremost senior monger on experiences in Medellin? 4. What does visiting a casa have to do with a comparison to a Dr's office? This is where it is clear that you have a gift of deflection when you cannot account for your ridiculous posts.

Because you cannot keep up with the direction of my post, it doesn't mean that I am on Meth, what it does mean is that you are a lover of casa's and you only have enough funds to afford the wam bam thank you mam. Or am I doing what you do best, assuming? You really make the stupid thread thrive because you truly believe no one sees through you bologna, clearly we do, and many of us have professional activities that don't allow us to jump from the Medellin, Bogota, Barranquilla Sousa threads like you do. Truth is you're sitting home in the US hoping to find the finances to redeem yourself from your previous failures in Medellin. Cheer up champ, we all have bad days, sometimes 365 bad days in a foreign country. All is fair in love and mongering, Pollo Negro is Out!Conquer? Now what are you talking about? I never realized paying a prostitute for sex was considered an act of conquest.

I take apart what you write, because you're constantly combining completely unrelated subjects in the same sentence. It makes your posts difficult to understand.

To answer:

1. What does taking pics have to do with making someone a pimp? As written, nothing at all. However, you're deliberately attempting to change the context. You indicated that you take pictures and videos of the girls, and that you send the pictures and videos to other mongers and set them up with the girls. Taking pictures has nothing to do with providing prostitutes to another person, which is typically what a pimp does.

2. What does kicking a girl out of your room have to do with the individual being fearful of the girl's cousin or family? I can't believe I need to explain this again. If it's a one time thing, nothing. If it's a regular occurrence, especially for a frequent visitor, it could be something. Every time you offend a person, there's a slight chance they will want payback. The more people you offend, the greater the risk. In my opinion, it's usually an unnecessary risk. There are ways to resolve differences amicably.

3. What does me having one visit to a casa have to do with others who have reported that they have had some very bad experiences in casa's recently have to do with you being the foremost senior monger on experiences in Medellin? I'm having another "what the fuck" moment here. Once again, you're combining things that don't go together. Let's try to break it down.

A. You have only visited one casa.

B. Other people have reported bad experiences at casas.

C. You apparently think I'm the "foremost senior monger on experiences in Medellin. ".

A. You have only visited 1 casa. The dangers of casas isn't a subject you have much experience with.

B. Other mongers are always having problems. Unless you were there, you lack the information to know whether or not the problem was caused by the monger.

C. I'm not sure what "the foremost senior monger on experiences in Medellin" means. It's not a title I've ever claimed. It would look ridiculous on a trophy. I've met mongers who have been living in Medellin for years. Practically every monger I've met has taught me something. I'm simply someone who likes to listen, likes to learn and is happy to share what I know.

4. What does visiting a casa have to do with a comparison to a Dr's office? Once again, you attempt to change the context. You said "disrobing in an unfamiliar environment is always a risk. " Maybe you've never been to a doctor's office where the nurse hands you a robe and tells you to strip down to your underwear. This qualifies as "disrobing in an unfamiliar environment. " According to you it's a risk. If it's a risk, then it should be something to worry about. Right? This is why it's a good idea to avoid superlatives. No deflection. It was a sarcastic response to your inaccurate declaration. I think most people understood.

I don't know which is worse, you're inability to understand simple sentences, or your inability to write simple sentences. Did you not learn about "simile" in high school? "Bouncing around like a rubber ball on meth" is an example. It doesn't mean I think you're on meth, or that you're a small, spherical object made of compressed rubber. It means your posts don't follow a logical path.

I'm not "a lover of casas", which you would know if your reading comprehension was at an acceptable level. I've gone to several casas. Some casas I've gone to several times. I've taken several people to casas. Many times I sat in the casa and waited for the person I brought to finish up. There are times when I would rather go to a casa. There are times when I'd rather hit up someone on WhatsApp or Messenger. There are times when I just want to walk, or read, or sit and have a few beers.

Barranquilla thread? Have I ever posted anything there? I suppose it's possible, but I can't recall anything. Sousa? What the fuck is a Sousa? I've heard of sousaphone, but I've only played trumpet, guitar and just a tiny bit of piano. There's a monger thread for sousaphones? I can guarantee I've never jumped there.

Were you thinking about Sosua? That would make more sense. I have posted there and on other Dominican Republic threads. I went there. I had a good time. I followed the thread for awhile after my trip. I wrote reports, gave a few recommendations and offered a bit of advice. Once again, isn't that what we're supposed to do? Why does this upset you? Should I be banned from answering questions because I have experience and use complete sentences?

Truth is, I'm not at home, although I am in the US. Work. I'm not "hoping to find the finances" for anything. I certainly don't feel any need to redeem myself. Who would I redeem myself to? I'm working, enjoying life and relaxing. Would I like to be back in Medellin? Sure. Am I losing sleep over it? Nope.

You know, this is all over a simple issue. You wrote a post saying that going to casas is unsafe. All I did was point out that inside a casa is safer than with a strange girl in your room.

Inside a casa might not be the best experience. It might not be comfortable for you. There may be inconveniences. You might even end up paying slightly more than you wanted. But those aren't safety issues. Those are value issues.

JjBee62
02-19-19, 06:09
I met Paulie97 and we had dinner and chopped it up, he didn't smell bad or behave irrational, very professional and had a very knowledgeable conversation, you're encounter must have been at a time when he was tossing back a few or just really enjoying the good greenery. Then again, if the situation doesn't make you top monger, the entire situation is problematic huh? Just my 2.5 cents. Pollo negro is out!Be patient.

The first time I met him we had a few beers, went to a casa and had a good time. I left him in El Centro and went home. The 2nd time he came to Poblado. We had a few beers, talked and had a good time. A few days later he was ranting about getting stuck behind some one with a problem at the store. To me it didn't sound like something to get worked up over. Not long after came the great pizza fiasco. It quickly became all my fault, even though it happened in Laureles while I was in El Poblado.

A few months later he started sending PMs to a guy I was disagreeing with. He was saying that nobody could stand to be around me among other things. I called him out on it, and got a halfway apology. We traded PMs regularly afterwards. Nothing really notable.

When he returned to Medellin he came to El Poblado looking for me (the guy nobody could stand to be around). We talked briefly. He told me about getting drugged and robbed. That story is in another post. Not long after I shared his story on the board, he again went off on me, because I got the story wrong.

The version I told had a strange guy going to the bar and bringing them shots. This is because, when he related the story to me, he said the guy was getting them shots. He complained because they had bought a bottle. It's a minor detail, that is not relevant to getting drugged and robbed. However, he spent several hours writing about it. Until he decided I'd somehow bruised his ego again, I hadn't thought about him.

So, be patient. Eventually he'll decide that you're the person he needs to attack. You'll probably be spared on this trip. He's got his psychosis focused on me for now.

JjBee62
02-19-19, 07:37
Please forgive me for poking at your tender ego, and status as the smartest, most knowledgeable monger in the Medellin forum. We were having a technical debate regarding an important issue to us all, and you clearly were getting the worst of it. You were also called out for your smug, condescending attitude, something many of us have taken notice of. This hurt your feelings so badly that it illicit a kicking and screaming fit, violating personal confidences while threatening to post screenshots of private conversations. What a self-absorbed twerp. LOL You make my case for me so well.

Your butthurt post is all over the place, but I'll address a few of the relevent points.

JJBee you should have finished your degree as you are constantly committing logical fallacies, hyperbole, today ad hominen, and now you've erected a strawman. I'm not an expert on anything except two professional areas. And how do you know how many times I've been to El Pablado? I haven't seen you since December of 2017. But to buttress your argument you assume I've never been back? Hilarious, lying off the cuff in spite of the fact that you can be immediately exposed. LOL Reminds me of your claim to have gotten this 4 hour GFE from a certain Facebook girl for less money than another member paid for a so so short experience. I then investigated. She's not even on your Facebook friend list. So you just make stuff up on the fly, whatever might suit your self absorbed agenda. Plus I've seen that grotesque, unkept, fuller brush above your lip along with the droop-a-long walk and weeping willow posture. One thing is very certain, these girls are thrilled when you droop out the door..Oh please. You wouldn't know a technical discussion if someone inserted the schematic up your ass.

What makes this hilarious is that when you first PMed me and wanted to meet up with me, you wanted to know what my Master's degree was in. At the time, according to you, I wrote better and gave better advice than almost everyone on ISG. Now I can't write at all, everything I say is wrong and nobody can stand me.

You must be a wizard at Facebook. You looked at my friend list, which is only visible to me. That's quite a feat, especially since I've rarely posted the names of the girls. But, let's assume you found a way to see my friend list. Let's assume the girl was named, along with a link to her Facebook. That part is critical, because they seem to change their profile name every few months. With all the information, you couldn't find her name, on a list you can't see. Sounds pretty suspicious.

"Plus I've seen that grotesque, unkept, fuller brush above your lip along with the droop-a-long walk and weeping willow posture. One thing is very certain, these girls are thrilled when you droop out the door. ".

Fuller is a brand name, a proper noun and should be capitalized.

Is that what this is all about? You're jealous because I'm tall and still have hair? Droop-a-long walk? Weeping willow posture? These are your best shots? Surely you can do better.

The links you requested:


A mention that girls in Gusto are quoting dollars.

An actual instance where he assumed pesos, but she meant dollars. You keep mentioning the "default currency", which is relevant almost anywhere other than Gusto. If I drop by a local restaurant and ask "cuanto cuesta el menu del DIA?" If I get "diez" as an answer, I know he means 10,000 COP. If the bar menu says "6" for a beer, I know it's 6,000 COP. However, if a girl in a nightclub tells me a number between 100 and 300, I will not assume she means thousands of Colombian pesos. I especially won't accept it at face value in Gusto. It takes less than a second to respond "pesos?" Why have to deal with a problem in your room, when you should have resolved it at the club?

"They need to ask for dollars. " Last time I checked, we're each responsible for our own actions, although, in your case, that's pending psychiatric evaluation. When a disagreement over price comes up in your room, after the fact, telling the girl "you should have asked for dollars" is probably not going to defuse the situation. Why put yourself in that position?

Assuming you got the girl from Gusto, who just told you 200 for the price, without specifying dollars, I see 3 possibilities. Either you're a rookie who doesn't know some girls in Gusto expect $200, or you don't know the going rate and assume $200 is a fair price. The third possibility is that you know she means dollars, but you're going to play dumb and try to get her for 200 k pesos.

To simplify, you either don't know the game, or you're trying to cheat the girl. I don't care if you can find girls for 50 k, 100 k or 200 k. She gave a price of 200. If you didn't clarify, when you suspected she means dollars, you're trying to cheat her. Yes, by most standards her price is ridiculously high. That's her business. You can either pass, or negotiate a lower price.

I don't recall anything about my "special interests", or even having any special interests. Mostly I remember you examining the fake Ray-Ban sunglasses and your nervous twitch.

In closing, my back isn't against the wall. It's against the mattress. My feelings are doing just fine. It's unlikely I'll be crying myself to sleep tonight, or any other night.

PolloNegro
02-19-19, 07:43
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=2236147&viewfull=1#post2236147.

Jjbee, how can you point a finger at others and say that others are contradictory when you argue with me about the same topic you posted about in this post. My final time beating this dead horse, either the casa's and strip clubs are safe or not? And just as you posted, you yourself were picked pocketed at a strip club, end of story.

Pollo Negro is Out.

Paulie97
02-19-19, 21:24
Oh please. You wouldn't know a technical discussion if someone inserted the schematic up your ass. Asserting it so doesn't make it so. Add another fallacy, "proof by assertion." Here's the post that made you come unhinged, sharing information told in confidence and threatening to post screenshots of whatsapp conversations from two years ago. It's content oriented and focused on the relevant issues. It's value was clearly established by your reaction.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3946-Stupid-shit-in-Medellin&p=2288533&viewfull=1#post2288533.


What makes this hilarious is that when you first PMed me and wanted to meet up with me, you wanted to know what my Master's degree was in. At the time, according to you, I wrote better and gave better advice than almost everyone on ISG. LOL I never assumed you had any degrees. Yes some of your basic information is good. Your writing can be well organized when you are calm and aren't getting challenged, though much of your analysis is flawed, particularly when you are trying to play expert.


You must be a wizard at Facebook. You looked at my friend list, which is only visible to me. The friends we have in common are visibile for me. We have many. This particular girl is on my list, but not your's.


That part is critical, because they seem to change their profile name every few months. Some do this but the vast majorty do not. Even if she had a different name in the recent past she'the still have shown up for us as a common friend. You just pulled the story out of your ass to make yourself look important. The first you'the heard of her was when the guy posted his bad experience. Caught yet again.


Fuller is a brand name, a proper noun and should be capitalized.Grammar police? LOL And you think I suspected that you have a masters?


Is that what this is all about? You're jealous because I'm tall and still have hair? Droop-a-long walk? Weeping willow posture? These are your best shots?.Sometimes reality offers the best shots of all.

The links you requested:

Wow so you have a single account where a girl from Gusto's asked for dollars after the deed. Even still this assumes that it was a genuine misunderstanding. The girl very easily could have been scamming / trying her luck. Clarification isn't going to remedy that situation. She can still deny any peso committment or scam some other way. The Tall Man recently gave such an account. Is hilarious, you assume the girls are honest while calling others rookies, naive, stupid, and google translate commandos that deperately need you to come along and save them. Your arrogance and pretentiousness are the main issues here. You bring one account from The Carl Anthony and it's muddy. Your own pontificating doesn't count as you are constantly caught in lies and other logical fallacies. Until further notice we are stuck with the known facts:

That includes the facts that pesos are the default currency in Medellin, and that dollars aren't even dispensed in the ATMs. So damn, sounds like the girl needs to specify dollars or she gets pesos. Hell it's far from a guarantee that the guy will even have any dollars to speak of. Even your greenhorns know to get some local currency on arrival.

You then tell guys to cave and pay the scamming and / or very negligent girl three times the agreed upon price to get her out of the room, $300 as opposed to 300 mil. Will guess what? A lot here take issue with that. They pull this because of guys like you and others who offer the sort of milk toast advice you offer. Some of us have been posting on this site and the old WSG for 15 to 20 years or more. We do get to disagree with you here, and should be able to do so without you throwing temper tantrems, posting private information told in confidence, threatening to post private messages from two years ago, etc. If you are that sensitive to challenges go start your own blog and shut down the comments.


I don't recall anything about my "special interests", or even having any special interests. You know what I'm talking about. You said you weren't worried about it but you should be.


Mostly I remember you examining the fake Ray-Ban sunglasses and your nervous twitch. That's a total fabrication, have never had such a condition. But speaking of nerves I certainly struck one with the weeping willow walking. Hey I like that! Has a nice rhyme and flow to it.

Paulie97
02-19-19, 22:06
The version I told had a strange guy going to the bar and bringing them shots. This is because, when he related the story to me, he said the guy was getting them shots. He complained because they had bought a bottle. It's a minor detail, that is not relevant to getting drugged and robbed. It's not a minor detail at all. Your version was that the guy disappeared to the bar and brought back full shot glasses which created worlds of opportunity. The truth, and what I told you is that the waiter brought a sealed bottle and glasses to table. The bottle was cracked in front of me and shots poured in front of me. At the end of the day I do not know who got a tranq in my system and likely will never know. I was at La 70 at that time but Luna Lunera later. After much evaluation I strongly suspect my Argentine wingman was in on it, though I'the known him for a year. There are many possibilities including involvement of bar staff.

I permitted you to tell the story for the benefit of others, provided you told it accurately and didn't personally connect me to it. You warn others about me all while showing the community here that you are ready to fly off the handle and betray confidential information if you start getting banged up in a totally unrelated debate regarding negotiations and handling problem girls in the room. You warn the community about me, but with your own words and actions here put them on high alert about you. Funny thing is are so wrapped up in yourself that you can't even see it. LOLOL.

P.S. Again I welcome PMs from anyone who wants to know more about this night.

Paulie97
02-20-19, 00:50
For the rest, I did fail. I took a long shot chance and ended up trusting the wrong person. It wasn't a total loss. According to you it was, as I read all the sympathy seeking Fackbook posts you wrote to family and the public just before you came home. You had sold all your worldly belongings, put it all in two suitcases and went to Medellin to rent a room from a webcam girl you met while peeping at your computer screen. You ran the video camera for her but never got paid. Even though you told everyone what a great high end apartment you had, truth is you were a barely tolerated house guest that was asked to camp out someplace else every time she had any friends or family come to town. In the end you found an established expat to rent you an apartment in Laureles in this last ditch Hail Mary to start your own webcam business. You almost surely stiffed them. You said you had to wait until some income started to flow before you could get hot water going in the place. Two weeks later you are posting a picture of a hotdog, your breakfast at the airport on your way out of town. That was a year ago and I doubt you've returned to Medellin since. But this is the guy that wants to think he is so smart and others are so stupid. Great stuff. Keep it coming. LOL.

JjBee62
02-20-19, 04:07
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=2236147&viewfull=1#post2236147.

Jjbee, how can you point a finger at others and say that others are contradictory when you argue with me about the same topic you posted about in this post. My final time beating this dead horse, either the casa's and strip clubs are safe or not? And just as you posted, you yourself were picked pocketed at a strip club, end of story.

Pollo Negro is Out.Is there one fucking thing you can do right? Anything at all that you're not going to fuck up like a porcupine in a condom factory?

You couldn't even manage to link a post. However, since one of us is smarter than the average rock, I figured out what you were trying to link.

I'm assuming this is the original message you tried to quote:


I don't believe any of the El Centro strip clubs charge an entrance fee. Fase Dos charges 10 k entrance fee. Beer and drink prices in El Centro are reasonable. I think chica drinks run around 10 k. Fase Dos drinks are expensive. Every place I know of has on site rooms.

Buying lady drinks is a waste of money. In the bar and in the room be aware. Had a girl in one club try to sneak her fingers into my pocket. Had another girl manage to sneak a 50 k bill out of my pants pocket in the room. Didn't notice it until I left the room.Now, because I'm used to repeating things to total fucking idiots, I'll explain.

The discussion was between casas and your room. It has not, at any point been about strip clubs. Strip clubs are an entirely different environment than casas. The incident here occurred in a strip club. It did not occur in a casa. There is no contradiction, unless you don't know the difference between a strip club and a casa.

To further clear things up, streetwalkers who use short time rooms aren't casas. All those Veracruz girls standing on the sidewalk, or sitting in the doorways aren't working in casas. What happened in Bogota didn't happen in a casa.

Keep trying. If nothing else, all of your flailing about should generate a nice breeze.

Paulie97
02-20-19, 06:30
Anything at all that you're not going to fuck up like a porcupine in a condom factory?This is one is so creative homes, I'm telling you. That's out of some insult book from the 1960's if not sooner. Scroll down a tad from the link and the post is revealed, isn't his fault. He has way more wits than you, trust me. Just a suggestion, roll up your pants when in a brothel room, doesn't matter what it's called, "casa," or "strip club" or "Veracruz" or whats not, same difference and we all know it, is a *****house with rooms on site. The one doing the "flailing" is you, and yea, we feel the wind. If you head to the shower take the rolled up pants with you and place them outside the entrance to the same. And yea, we all make mistakes, only problem is a pompous ass like yourself gets less leeway. Better to shoot for perfection. Now save up a few coins, make your triumphant return to Medellin, and write us some reviews K? It's been a very long time.

PolloNegro
02-20-19, 07:24
Is there one fucking thing you can do right? Anything at all that you're not going to fuck up like a porcupine in a condom factory?

You couldn't even manage to link a post. However, since one of us is smarter than the average rock, I figured out what you were trying to link.

I'm assuming this is the original message you tried to quote:

Now, because I'm used to repeating things to total fucking idiots, I'll explain.

The discussion was between casas and your room. It has not, at any point been about strip clubs. Strip clubs are an entirely different environment than casas. The incident here occurred in a strip club. It did not occur in a casa. There is no contradiction, unless you don't know the difference between a strip club and a casa.

To further clear things up, streetwalkers who use short time rooms aren't casas. All those Veracruz girls standing on the sidewalk, or sitting in the doorways aren't working in casas. What happened in Bogota didn't happen in a casa.

Keep trying. If nothing else, all of your flailing about should generate a nice breeze.A pro like you could never be outwitted with your Colombian intelligence & Centro Guerilla Intel? Face it, you were treated like the 2 mil pesos that you are, I still contest, its safer to bring girl back to your room verses using a casa or strip club, or renting a room from a chica who breaks you & send you back to the states penniless. Even you admitted you fail for the wrong girl, A Colombian lady of the moment! Pollo Negro is Out.

Paulie97
02-20-19, 07:51
Now, because I'm used to repeating things to total fucking idiots..Here ya go folks. We either have the smartest guy on the planet, or a failed Peeping Tom webcam boy, wannabe intellectual that didn't have the balls to finish his bachelors degree. He's a pretentious nobody. Yea if he has the address to a casa or whatever you want to call it, listen or verify with Google. If he's offering advise or other directions, read his unhinged reports here on the most appreciated stupid thread and decide how you wish to proceed.

JjBee62
02-20-19, 12:18
Asserting it so doesn't make it so. Add another fallacy, "proof by assertion." Here's the post that made you come unhinged, sharing information told in confidence and threatening to post screenshots of whatsapp conversations from two years ago. It's content oriented and focused on the relevant issues. It's value was clearly established by your reaction.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3946-Stupid-shit-in-Medellin&p=2288533&viewfull=1#post2288533.

LOL I never assumed you had any degrees. Yes some of your basic information is good. Your writing can be well organized when you are calm and aren't getting challenged, though much of your analysis is flawed, particularly when you are trying to play expert.

The friends we have in common are visible for me. We have many. This particular girl is on my list, but not your's.

Some do this but the vast majority do not. Even if she had a different name in the recent past she'the still have shown up for us as a common friend. You just pulled the story out of your ass to make yourself look important. The first you'the heard of her was when the guy posted his bad experience. Caught yet again..I'll be brief.

You struck a nerve, yet how many times have you brought up my mention of posting copies of your insane WhatsApp messages? Does it worry you that much?

There's an easy solution to all of this. Click. Click and place me on your ignore list. You won't see my posts and you can twitch along your merry way. Or give Jackson or A2 an ultimatum. Tell them to kick me off or that you'll leave. No matter which way it goes, your troubles are over.

JjBee62
02-20-19, 13:17
It's not a minor detail at all. Your version was that the guy disappeared to the bar and brought back full shot glasses which created worlds of opportunity. The truth, and what I told you is that the waiter brought a sealed bottle and glasses to table. The bottle was cracked in front of me and shots poured in front of me. At the end of the day I do not know who got a tranq in my system and likely will never know. I was at La 70 at that time but Luna Lunera later. After much evaluation I strongly suspect my Argentine wingman was in on it, though I'the known him for a year. There are many possibilities including involvement of bar staff..Hell, it's your story and you can't get it straight. Here are the pertinent points you told me at the time:

You were at a bar, afterwards you said you thought it was "A pico en Botella", with your Argentine friend. There were 2 hot girls. You all sat down together. There was a third guy. You said he was getting everyone shots and that you thought he was trying to impress the girls. You also said you weren't drunk at the time. You did not mention buying a bottle, or having it opened in front of you, until you went off on WhatsApp. You also never mentioned Luna Lunera. You said you woke up in a strange room and found out you had been drugged, and the last thing you remembered was drinking in the bar. According to you, they cleaned out your friend, computer and everything, but only got a bit of cash from you.

Now, had you mentioned buying a bottle, I wouldn't have assumed "getting shots for everyone" meant going to the bar.

And it's still a minor detail, because someone was able to drug you. Does it matter that they did it right under your nose, instead of behind your back?

Yes. I did betray your confidence. When you began sending PMs to people lying about me, you betrayed mine. Seems a fair trade.

From my point of view, what do I owe you? After meeting up a couple of times, you went completely off the hook at me, without cause. Completely off the hook. I understand why you're worried about those Whatsapp messages. How did I respond? Did I reply in kind? No. I suggested you needed to get out of your same old routine of beer, viagra and trying to nut 4 times a day. I offered to spend a day with you, taking you around the city, showing you different things, all expenses paid. I offered to acclimate you to the Metro, which would save you time and money on your trips to El Centro. Even though you had bit me once, I offered my hand.

Next you began lying about me via PM. Instead of blocking you, I entered into a dialogue with you. You sent PMs almost daily, typically complaining about different people or pontificating on the virtues of Jim Morrison. When you next came to Medellin, you sought me out again, told your story and once again went off the deep end on WhatsApp. After blocking you there, you shifted to PM, so I blocked you here as well.

You attacked me 3 times, with no provocation and twice I accepted your apology, even if you never actually apologized. The third time, I shut you out. These are the things you haven't discussed. Why haven't you mentioned those events? Give it a whirl. Tell everyone about those Whatsapp exchanges. Post them, so everyone can see whether or not my version is accurate.

Now more than a year later you chose to launch a personal attack on me, over something that didn't involve you. At that point I realized that I owe the board, much more than I owe you. Why should someone else have to put up with your ranting, all because they accepted a PM offer to meet up?

So, rant on. Whatever you want to say, get it out there. It's not going to stop that twitch.

Balboa
02-20-19, 20:23
Glad this great debate is in the "Stupid Shit" forum, LOL.

I doubt many guys really give a crap about any of it actually.

I've been hangin in Colombia for about 20 years, and Medellin about 17 or so.

Guys come and go.

Things change.

On this forum there will always be some strong personalities and some goof balls (which I may very well be).

There'll be knowledgeable guys, and some not so much.

JB obviously knows the Medellin scene, and I thought gave good straight advice, never malicious.

I don't care if he has a bushy mustache or if he walks like Mr Magoo, LOL.

I don't know Paulie, I'm sure he's experienced and knowledgeable.

Has a different take on the scene in Medellin.

Great!

So does Pollo Negro.

He's experienced and has his way too.

The whole monger scene is fluid.

There is no one right way.

For some guys 'this' may work, for others 'that'.

Big deal.

You guys can continue to rant if ya like.

The rest of us are lost, or really don't care.

Like I said, at least it's in the correct forum.

Have at it guys.

JjBee62
02-20-19, 20:33
A pro like you could never be outwitted with your Colombian intelligence & Centro Guerilla Intel? Face it, you were treated like the 2 mil pesos that you are, I still contest, its safer to bring girl back to your room verses using a casa or strip club, or renting a room from a chica who breaks you & send you back to the states penniless. Even you admitted you fail for the wrong girl, A Colombian lady of the moment! Pollo Negro is Out.I understand why you chose "Pollo. " You are constantly flopping around in circles like a headless chicken.

In deference to Paulie, this one is called "moving the goalposts. " Bringing a girl to your room isn't safer than doing a girl in a casa. So you move the goalposts and include strip clubs. Now, you're partially correct. But the conversation wasn't about strip clubs.

You're so focused on being right, after more than one person disagreed with you, that you're willing to change everything to try and prove your point. If not strip clubs, you would want to add in casas in San Salvador, or Caracas. Either that or, as you've already done, streetwalkers.

We're comparing 2 things: your own room and a room at a casa. Nothing more. You prefer your own room. That's good, great, fabulous. It doesn't make it safer, but it makes it more enjoyable for you.

And you just proved my point. My problems, which left me "penniless" all happened in my room. Yes? They didn't happen in a casa. They didn't happen in a strip club. In my room, connected with people who know me. Thank you.

You say "penniless" like it's a dirty word. You can't imagine what that's like, can you? The worst insult you can come up with is based on my economic status. Problem is, it really doesn't bother me. It wasn't the first time and it probably won't be the last time.

You see, cut you off from your money supply and you're flopping like a fish out of water. When I'm out of money, I just tighten my belt, roll up my sleeves and go back to work. Work doesn't scare me. I can find a job easier than you can find a girl in Medellin.

Heck, this time it was a piece of cake. I got a phone call. "What do you need?" Spent my last night saying goodbye to some friends, grabbed a taxi to the airport, hopped on a plane and had someone waiting at the airport. The next day I had a job. 3 weeks later I had a car and a place to live. Easy stuff. Only took 4 months to clear my debts.

The toughest one was the first time. Cancer is a terrible disease. It's almost as bad for the family as it is for the patient. With certain cancers it's not if it comes back it's when. So every 3 months you hold your breath and hope for clean test results. Then you pretend everything is normal until the next round of tests.

In my wife's case (just to clarify, I've been married 3 times. I only refer to one as my wife), Mr and Mrs tumor returned just as I was finishing my recovery from a back injury that kept me from working for 18 months. Not the best time for the big bills to hit.

After it was all done I spent 4 months without a real roof over a real bed. There was a roof and there was a bed, but the roof leaked worse than all the bladders in the nursing home. Two months in I got a job. After another 2 months I had a real bed under a roof that didn't leak. Took another 6 months to get my own apartment.

Next time you're back home, do yourself a favor. Go to the local VA Hospital, or a local nursing home. Find some old guy who hasn't got any family and make friends with him. Listen to his stories, get to know him. Then ask him which he would rather have, a million dollars or the chance to be 18 again and flat broke.

I'll take my experiences, good and bad, over money every time.

JjBee62
02-20-19, 21:17
Glad this great debate is in the "Stupid Shit" forum, LOL.

I doubt many guys really give a crap about any of it actually.

I've been hangin in Colombia for about 20 years, and Medellin about 17 or so.

Guys come and go.

Things change.

On this forum there will always be some strong personalities and some goof balls (which I may very well be).

There'll be knowledgeable guys, and some not so much..You are correct, in all things. A2 picked the right name for this thread. It is all stupid shit. Sometimes it's easy to get sucked in, and hard to get back out. I'll bow out now. In a shit flinging fight, there aren't any winners.

Paulie97
03-06-19, 00:00
Hell, it's your story and you can't get it straight.
Here are the pertinent points you told me at the time You were at a bar, afterwards you said you thought it was "A pico en Botella", with your Argentine friend. There were 2 hot girls. You all sat down together. There was a third guy. You said he was getting everyone shots and that you thought he was trying to impress the girls. You also said you weren't drunk at the time. You did not mention buying a bottle, or having it opened in front of you, until you went off on WhatsApp. You also never mentioned Luna Lunera. You said you woke up in a strange room and found out you had been drugged, and the last thing you remembered was drinking in the bar. According to you, they cleaned out your friend, computer and everything, but only got a bit of cash from you. Now, had you mentioned buying a bottle, I wouldn't have assumed "getting shots for everyone" meant going to the bar. And it's still a minor detail, because someone was able to drug you. Does it matter that they did it right under your nose, instead of behind your back? In the end the result is the same, drugged and robbed. What your false version does is make the victim extremely negligent, taking shots from a guy that disappeared to the bar. The reality is that he ordered a bottle to the table that was delivered by the waiter, shots poured in front of me, and that's exactly what was told to you. My Argentine "friend," all I know is what he told me and there's been reason to question his account. You keep preaching (falsely) that Medellin is just as safe as any large city in the US though many US cities the same size and larger have much better crime stats. Plus gringos are targets south of the border in a special way, but my story challenged your pollyanna thesis. The result? You go back to pulling shit out of your ass because you don't like what you're hearing. I'm convinced that I wasn't drugged when the shots were poured, so your version creates a false impression. You know all of that already.


Yes. I did betray your confidence. When you began sending PMs to people lying about me, you betrayed mine. Seems a fair trade. Huh? Any discussions about you had nothing to do with any confidential information, and were back channeled. Your are a passive aggressive little twit. You get pushed around about a totally unrelated debate then publicly post confidential information. In that one knee jerk moment you've showed us who you are.


From my point of view, what do I owe you? After meeting up a couple of times, you went completely off the hook at me, without cause. Completely off the hook. I understand why you're worried about those Whatsapp messages. How did I respond? Did I reply in kind? No. I suggested you needed to get out of your same old routine of beer, viagra and trying to nut 4 times a day. I offered to spend a day with you, taking you around the city, showing you different things, all expenses paid. I offered to acclimate you to the Metro, which would save you time and money on your trips to El Centro. Even though you had bit me once, I offered my hand.Next you began lying about me via PM. Instead of blocking you, I entered into a dialogue with you. You sent PMs almost daily, typically complaining about different people or pontificating on the virtues of Jim Morrison. When you next came to Medellin, you sought me out again, told your story and once again went off the deep end on WhatsApp. After blocking you there, you shifted to PM, so I blocked you here as well..LOLOL First on the twitch there's none. Maybe a bit of tremor after a hard night drinking but that's a very common hangover symptom. Swing and a miss again. Have you ever seen a picture of a weeping willow drooping over a lake? Well that's you Bro, and it's a sight to see walking down the street. But yea homes, sounds like you are on the pity pot again. Brings back memories. You fell in love with a webcam girl while peeping in your computer screen, and were all set on making your fortune. I mean talking to you you already had yourself in the Fortune 500. But instead you bent over and got a ten inch strap on, and bleed out in your Facebook pity party for all to see. Hopefully they got it all on tape. LOLOL.


After blocking you there, you shifted to PM, so I blocked you here as well.If you've blocked me then how have you seen my posts to reply to? As I've told you, You need to take some lying lessons as seeing that you so rely on it, you might as well try to get good at it.

And for the audience, notice the legion of points I've made that he's completely ignored. Those are always the strongest points as he can't come up with any response. All he can can do is whine about how he's getting picked on and talk about some hangover tremors as he droops down the road in some of the most godawful posture know to man! LOL.

GrownMan1
03-22-19, 19:57
why are the tickets more expensive to Puerta Plata than they are to Medellin? I have a theory and its just a Theory. The DR has more Afro Latina chicas there in a higher concentration than most other Latin destinations, who desires a darker chica? Those who are not accustomed to having their way with the darker chics in the US or Europe? To my knowledge it takes more gas to travel further than it does a shorter distance, so why would the shorter distance cost more? Cause those who can't get the darker chicas are willing to pay more, that's just a Theory. Medellin has been nothing but good to me! Why come to Medellin and wish you were in the DR. Further more the ticket is less than $200 to fulfill your dream. I'll never visit DR as long as the tickets cost more to travel there than Medellin and there is closer to the states than Medellin. Don't mind me!OK you got me. I'll give my two cents. Why are you comparing MDE the biggest airport in Columbia to one of the smallest airports in DR? The equivalent airport to MDE in Medellin Colombia is SDQ in Santo Domingo the DR. Puerto Plata is the most expensive airport in the whole country. It has nothing to do with Afro Caribbean.

Are you saying you go to Medellin because you are more accustom to having your way with darker Latina than lighter Latina? Does Medellin give you do you lighter Latina you desire? Why go to Medellin when you can just go to Tijuana. I just gave you a mirror. Me personally, I love the Africa Latina overall beauty and physique. Thus far in my life they are second to none. (haven't been to Brazil yet).

It is much cheaper to fly in almost any of the airports in the DR besides Puerto Plata for those of us that reside in the states. I paid a little more and flew a little longer to go to Medellin. I also had to deal with that crap of a Spirit Airlines the only Airline that offers a one-way flight. I didn't mind paying the extra to save time.

I did not go to Medellin to wish I was in the DR. However, after my first four hours, I was missing my camel toes, I did not like my choice of being there.

Two of my wing men were DR regulars and first time in Medellin. One of my wingmen never wants to see the place again. The other one who had his cell stolen, wants to give it another shot.

PolloNegro
03-22-19, 22:54
OK you got me. I'll give my two cents. Why are you comparing MDE the biggest airport in Columbia to one of the smallest airports in DR? The equivalent airport to MDE in Medellin Colombia is SDQ in Santo Domingo the DR. Puerto Plata is the most expensive airport in the whole country. It has nothing to do with Afro Caribbean.

Are you saying you go to Medellin because you are more accustom to having your way with darker Latina than lighter Latina? Does Medellin give you do you lighter Latina you desire? Why go to Medellin when you can just go to Tijuana. I just gave you a mirror. Me personally, I love the Africa Latina overall beauty and physique. Thus far in my life they are second to none. (haven't been to Brazil yet).

It is much cheaper to fly in almost any of the airports in the DR besides Puerto Plata for those of us that reside in the states. I paid a little more and flew a little longer to go to Medellin. I also had to deal with that crap of a Spirit Airlines the only Airline that offers a one-way flight. I didn't mind paying the extra to save time.

I did not go to Medellin to wish I was in the DR. However, after my first four hours, I was missing my camel toes, I did not like my choice of being there.

Two of my wing men were DR regulars and first time in Medellin. One of my wingmen never wants to see the place again. The other one who had his cell stolen, wants to give it another shot.Just googled FLL to POP and the Flight was $6 cheaper than FLL to MDE. I don't have to come to MDE to get whiter Latinas or Afro Latinas. I'm pretty skilled at doing that on my own. So, with me being from Puerto Rico & living in Fla and speaking 7 languages Fluently, I can get my own share of Latinas, being a Afro Latino myself, why would I flock to the DR to see girls I can get in Farjardo, Bayamon, Carolina, Lares, and Mayaguez, but being a native of the island I can play in Medellin and no one points the finger at me. But if DR is all of that and a bag of chips bypass Medellin and I guarantee you no one will miss you. Pure horrible to be on one thread talking about how much you miss the DR, if your pockets are full, by a ticket and do like Michael Jackson. Beat it. LOL. Pollo negro is out!

PolloNegro
03-23-19, 05:33
OK you got me. I'll give my two cents. Why are you comparing MDE the biggest airport in Columbia to one of the smallest airports in DR? The equivalent airport to MDE in Medellin Colombia is SDQ in Santo Domingo the DR. Puerto Plata is the most expensive airport in the whole country. It has nothing to do with Afro Caribbean.

Are you saying you go to Medellin because you are more accustom to having your way with darker Latina than lighter Latina? Does Medellin give you do you lighter Latina you desire? Why go to Medellin when you can just go to Tijuana. I just gave you a mirror. Me personally, I love the Africa Latina overall beauty and physique. Thus far in my life they are second to none. (haven't been to Brazil yet).

It is much cheaper to fly in almost any of the airports in the DR besides Puerto Plata for those of us that reside in the states. I paid a little more and flew a little longer to go to Medellin. I also had to deal with that crap of a Spirit Airlines the only Airline that offers a one-way flight. I didn't mind paying the extra to save time.

I did not go to Medellin to wish I was in the DR. However, after my first four hours, I was missing my camel toes, I did not like my choice of being there.

Two of my wing men were DR regulars and first time in Medellin. One of my wingmen never wants to see the place again. The other one who had his cell stolen, wants to give it another shot.Start a post off with a lie & expect me to read the rest of the post as though it is truthful information. One lie leads to another MDE is not the biggest airport in Colombia! Pollo negro is out!

GrownMan1
03-23-19, 13:17
Just googled FLL to POP and the Flight was $6 cheaper than FLL to MDE. I don't have to come to MDE to get whiter Latinas or Afro Latinas. I'm pretty skilled at doing that on my own. So, with me being from Puerto Rico & living in Fla and speaking 7 languages Fluently, I can get my own share of Latinas, being a Afro Latino myself, why would I flock to the DR to see girls I can get in Farjardo, Bayamon, Carolina, Lares, and Mayaguez, but being a native of the island I can play in Medellin and no one points the finger at me. But if DR is all of that and a bag of chips bypass Medellin and I guarantee you no one will miss you. Pure horrible to be on one thread talking about how much you miss the DR, if your pockets are full, by a ticket and do like Michael Jackson. Beat it. LOL. Pollo negro is out!I see you are trying to take me there. Why the ole me would have said who gives a fuck about where you've been and amount of languages you speak, but this board has matured me. You didn't like that Mirror I gave you? Some people hate mirrors. When your rationale was questioned or answered; It makes me think you really wasnt asking a question you just wanted to be heard.

1. You tried to make yourself feel better by telling us how many languages do you speak as if that matters.

2. Jjbee62 and Mr. E gave you good answer but it wasn't good enough for you. You wanted detail information their words wasn't enough.

3. I turned around and gave you detailed concret information and you turn around and told us what you googled. No proof.

4. I showed you that flying to Santo Domingo what cheaper than flying to Medellin but you stayed on POP.

5. Your word of me giving my honest trip report on how I feel is "horrible". Totally missing my statement that my trip report was out of respect for the Jjbee62 who kept it 100 and newbies. It's cool chocolate chicken I'm not here For an aurgument. I will just leave you with a mirror. Be careful looking into it you might see yourself.

PolloNegro
03-23-19, 14:49
I see you are trying to take me there. Why the ole me would have said who gives a fuck about where you've been and amount of languages you speak, but this board has matured me. You didn't like that Mirror I gave you? Some people hate mirrors. When your rationale was questioned or answered; It makes me think you really wasnt asking a question you just wanted to be heard.

1. You tried to make yourself feel better by telling us how many languages do you speak as if that matters.

2. Jjbee62 and Mr. E gave you good answer but it wasn't good enough for you. You wanted detail information their words wasn't enough.

3. I turned around and gave you detailed concret information and you turn around and told us what you googled. No proof.

4. I showed you that flying to Santo Domingo what cheaper than flying to Medellin but you stayed on POP.

5. Your word of me giving my honest trip report on how I feel is "horrible". Totally missing my statement that my trip report was out of respect for the Jjbee62 who kept it 100 and newbies. It's cool chocolate chicken I'm not here For an aurgument. I will just leave you with a mirror. Be careful looking into it you might see yourself.The Same BM the famous Jjbee62 can't get back to Medellin, Bogota, Medellin, or The DR. But if he keeps it real, I salute you and your respect for a full blown story teller who was sent home penniless by Colombian chicas, (Young Chics). Plus you, not me, said, MDE was the biggest airport in Medellin. If you can't stand looking at my post, just read what you posted. I'm still not paying more to travel a shorter distance from Florida to the DR than I would to MDE. If you can't stand the image in the mirror, doing stand in front of it! Pollo negro is out!

JjBee62
03-23-19, 22:38
The Same BM the famous Jjbee62 can't get back to Medellin, Bogota, Medellin, or The DR. But if he keeps it real, I salute you and your respect for a full blown story teller who was sent home penniless by Colombian chicas, (Young Chics). Plus you, not me, said, MDE was the biggest airport in Medellin. If you can't stand looking at my post, just read what you posted. I'm still not paying more to travel a shorter distance from Florida to the DR than I would to MDE. If you can't stand the image in the mirror, doing stand in front of it! Pollo negro is out!Why are you so obsessed with me? Honestly, it's a bit weird having a couple of grown men focused on my every move. Surely you can find something better to do.

Just to clear something up, for everyone else, you'll always be baffled, the "Colombian chicas (chics)", was a 28 year old woman and her 33 year old novio.


I'm the last BM to run out of that anytime soon, because a fool and his money shall soon part, no one, no one, I mean no one knows that better than you JjBee62. It was you who were broken and sent home penniless by them Colombian chicas. I'm way to crafty and financially Swift to play games with my money. I'm never on a budget and if push comes to shove, I most definitely keep enough pesos to get back to America, even if I have to charter a flight. With that being said, I changed two 18 year old chicas from Veracruz today, wowzers, I can still feel the fuzz on their buzz. Photo'd, filmed, fcked, and Forgotten, the quest continues tomorrow, I'm in Bogota next week, wish you were joining me, but the way your budget set up. Nevermind, Centro is a lovely destination, Pollo Negro is out!Here's why, regardless of what money you might have, you'll always struggle to be relevant: you're too obsessed with your fragile ego to deal with facts.

Fact: you stated that it's $200 more to fly to Puerta Plata than to MDE. One of the few times you got something right.

However, people who bother to do some research don't fly to POP. They either fly into Santiago de LOS Caballeros or Santo Domingo. STI costs $3 more than to MDE from FLL. SDQ is $5 more. You've had the discrepancy pointed out by more than one person and instead of acknowledging your error, you want to deflect onto my issues from a year ago. And on those issues you insist on sticking with your fantasies rather than the facts which I've written extensively about.

Fact: You claimed that the higher ticket prices were due to the demand for Dominicans.

You ignore the facts that, have also been mentioned by others. The increased airport fees at POP were widely discussed on the DR forum 4 years ago. Prices are much cheaper at SDQ and STI. Fuel is more expensive on an island. Here's some more facts. DR biggest import is petroleum products. Colombia's biggest export is petroleum products. An importer has higher costs than an exporter. You will have difficulty understanding this, but airlines don't set ticket prices based on the popularity of a destination's prostitutes.

Fact: I ran out of money 1 year ago. No argument from me on this one. It's something that you spend more time worrying about than I do, even though I've had much longer to worry about it.

However, this is irrelevant to whether or not it's cheaper to fly to MDE or SDQ. You might try it the next time you buy something. Whenever you are told the price just tell them "but jjbee62 ran out of money in March of 2018. Doesn't that mean I get a discount?

Fact: You've claimed I can't get back to Medellin or anywhere else.

Here's the reality: I've never been one who vacations several times a year. During my time in the Navy, I kept my leave balance to have just under 60 days available at the end of the fiscal year. When I separated I took 10 weeks of separation leave. Later on I went 22 years without taking a single vacation. Since I decided to start taking vacations, I've averaged 1 vacation of 2 weeks every 18 months. That's just my preference.

Roughly 2 years ago I took a chance on something that didn't work out. So I ended up taking a 1 year vacation. To me it was a fair trade, but to you it was a disaster of epic proportions. Now I'm planning a vacation in July, 16 months after my 1 year vacation ended. Which puts me back on the schedule of vacations that I prefer.

While I would be happy to come back and spend another year in Medellin, it's not something I'm working on. I'm in a good place, surrounded by good people and I'm happy getting out of bed each day.

Fact: Grownman called Medellin the largest airport in Colombia. He was wrong. However, whether or not MDE is the largest airport in Colombia is irrelevant. It is a much larger airport than POP. It's also a much cheaper airport for the airlines to fly into, when compared to POP.

One last thing to clarify. I really don't care whether you're in Medellin, Bogota, Florida, Puerto Rico or anywhere else. I don't care who you are fucking, how old they are, or whether or not you took pictures. Your dick, your money, your business. So why do you spend so much time thinking about my dick, my money and my business? Should I be sending you pictures of my dick and my paycheck each week, just so you can stop worrying so much about them?

PolloNegro
03-24-19, 06:11
Why are you so obsessed with me? Honestly, it's a bit weird having a couple of grown men focused on my every move. Surely you can find something better to do.

Just to clear something up, for everyone else, you'll always be baffled, the "Colombian chicas (chics)", was a 28 year old woman and her 33 year old novio.

Here's why, regardless of what money you might have, you'll always struggle to be relevant: you're too obsessed with your fragile ego to deal with facts.

Fact: you stated that it's $200 more to fly to Puerta Plata than to MDE. One of the few times you got something right.

However, people who bother to do some research don't fly to POP. They either fly into Santiago de LOS Caballeros or Santo Domingo. STI costs $3 more than to MDE from FLL. SDQ is $5 more. You've had the discrepancy pointed out by more than one person and instead of acknowledging your error, you want to deflect onto my issues from a year ago. And on those issues you insist on sticking with your fantasies rather than the facts which I've written extensively about.

Fact: You claimed that the higher ticket prices were due to the demand for Dominicans.

You ignore the facts that, have also been mentioned by others. The increased airport fees at POP were widely discussed on the DR forum 4 years ago. Prices are much cheaper at SDQ and STI. Fuel is more expensive on an island. Here's some more facts. DR biggest import is petroleum products. Colombia's biggest export is petroleum products. An importer has higher costs than an exporter. You will have difficulty understanding this, but airlines don't set ticket prices based on the popularity of a destination's prostitutes.

Fact: I ran out of money 1 year ago. No argument from me on this one. It's something that you spend more time worrying about than I do, even though I've had much longer to worry about it.You admit she broke you and sent you back home to the US penniless. Like I say, a fool and his money shall soon part. Personally I trust no woman, not one. I've seen them at their worst, so now I see them all that way. They can't steal what you don't give them an opportunity to do so! Cheers, Pollo Negro is out!

JjBee62
03-25-19, 01:08
You admit she broke you and sent you back home to the US penniless. Like I say, a fool and his money shall soon part. Personally I trust no woman, not one. I've seen them at their worst, so now I see them all that way. They can't steal what you don't give them an opportunity to do so! Cheers, Pollo Negro is out!You really have no reading comprehension, do you? I've covered this all at least twice before. She didn't break me. She didn't get any money from me, except when I paid her for some shipping charges for some boxes I had sent from the US. Her boyfriend simply failed to come through with the work he had told me would be available. My money was spent on living expenses, furniture, clothing, food, drink and women. I also spent money on some bills I had in the states, most notably my phone bill and some medical bills. I also spent about $1000 on an international medical insurance plan and $1000 on Spanish classes at EAFIT. Then there was another $1000 for a new laptop I had shipped from the US.

During the year I spent roughly $30 k. Of that $25 k or $26 k was my money, the rest was the little bit I earned with the work I did.

Now, considering the year prior, I spent $50 k living in the US, living better, having more fun and mostly being on vacation for a year, for $20 k less than I spent working 60 hour weeks seems like a pretty good trade.

Now where do you want me to send those weekly dick and paycheck pictures? Because you're clearly still obsessed with my shit.

PolloNegro
03-25-19, 05:41
You really have no reading comprehension, do you? I've covered this all at least twice before. She didn't break me. She didn't get any money from me, except when I paid her for some shipping charges for some boxes I had sent from the US. Her boyfriend simply failed to come through with the work he had told me would be available. My money was spent on living expenses, furniture, clothing, food, drink and women. I also spent money on some bills I had in the states, most notably my phone bill and some medical bills. I also spent about $1000 on an international medical insurance plan and $1000 on Spanish classes at EAFIT. Then there was another $1000 for a new laptop I had shipped from the US.

During the year I spent roughly $30 k. Of that $25 k or $26 k was my money, the rest was the little bit I earned with the work I did.

Now, considering the year prior, I spent $50 k living in the US, living better, having more fun and mostly being on vacation for a year, for $20 k less than I spent working 60 hour weeks seems like a pretty good trade.

Now where do you want me to send those weekly dick and paycheck pictures? Because you're clearly still obsessed with my shit.I'm in Medellin getting a BBBJ as I type this, you're my last worry, if you're broke you're broke, some people accept that being financially stable is their wish. Some guys want to be a peeping tom and fake webcam producer while losing every penny. You post on this thread like you live here everyday, you don't. I come to Medellin monthly and can tell you the city changes frequently and the girls also. You are quite strange when you feel the need to explain anything to a BM you don't personally know. But that's that pompous ego of yours. You're broke, its your fault, your were fooled, and you were not prepared to be tricked. You should only post on ways to avoid being tricked and left penniless. Good day sir. Pollo negro is out!

JjBee62
03-25-19, 23:46
I'm in Medellin getting a BBBJ as I type this, you're my last worry, if you're broke you're broke, some people accept that being financially stable is their wish. Some guys want to be a peeping tom and fake webcam producer while losing every penny. You post on this thread like you live here everyday, you don't. I come to Medellin monthly and can tell you the city changes frequently and the girls also. You are quite strange when you feel the need to explain anything to a BM you don't personally know. But that's that pompous ego of yours. You're broke, its your fault, your were fooled, and you were not prepared to be tricked. You should only post on ways to avoid being tricked and left penniless. Good day sir. Pollo negro is out!It must not be a very good BBBJ. Seriously.

If I'm your last worry, why would you bother to send a response while you're getting a BBBJ? Even a BBBJ can't get your thoughts of of me. I guess I should be flattered. You're thinking more about my dick than your own.

I'm not broke. I'm not wealthy, but then I've never been wealthy. But I've money in the bank, money in my pocket and a steady income. My bills are minimal and they're all paid on time, and I have plenty left over every week. My needs are all being met. As I said, if you're so concerned about my dick and my finances, I'll send you pics, just send me the email.

And you can't say you're not thinking about them, you have written as much about me as you have about getting pussy. Hell, you can't even stop thinking about me and my finances while getting a BBBJ.

I post on this thread and several others, just like a lot of people. Most of them don't live there every day. Some have never been there. Very few have ever spent 12 consecutive months there. If you want to set requirements on posting to a thread, let's do it right. Only people who have spent 12 or more consecutive months in the city are allowed to answer questions. No?

The city changes frequently? And the girls too? Amazing! I imagine by now the Coltejer building is painted pink and Botero Plaza has been replaced by a Flamingo store. All new girls too? Fascinating. All the prepagos in Medellin just work 1 month and disappear, never to be heard from again. They just get replaced by a new crop every month.

I'm a bit confused on this one. How do you explain the guys who have been seeing the same girls for 5 or more years? How do you explain the casas and strip clubs that people have been reporting on for 10 years? How do you explain the debate on the price of pussy, which I know has been going on for at least 4 years. At the exact same price?

As I said before, you're always at a disadvantage, because your first priority is to support your fragile ego. You post repeatedly about the constancy of El Centro, but because your ego is threatened you try to tell us that nobody better stay away from Medellin for more than a month or they won't be able to recognize it.

Here's how far off track you are: You question why I would try to explain things to someone I don't know and then blame it on having a pompous ego. But a person with a pompous ego wouldn't bother to explain. That's a long way from being pompous.

A peeping Tom? A fake webcam producer? Where do you come up with this garbage? I can't imagine being a peeping Tom in Medellin, especially Poblado where everything is a high rise. Peeking into a parking garage doesn't appeal to me. Certainly not in the estrato 2 barrios where I'd likely end up dead.

As for fake webcam producer, I appreciate the promotion, but there's no such position as "webcam producer" real or fake. And since you keep going on about me being penniless, how could I be a producer, who, among other things, arranges financing for a production?

Nothing fake about anything I did. Every webcam model I worked with was real. Every show was real and broadcast live, via the Internet, around the world. Quite a few guys, including some from ISG sat and watched me work.

Now, can you explain in detail how I was tricked and fooled? It shouldn't be hard, I've written the whole story. Can you tell me the names of the people who tricked and fooled me? Can you tell me where my money went and who ended up with it? Can you at least tell me the screen name and broadcast platform of any of the models I worked with? For someone who pretends to know so much about me, that one should be simple.

Enough of dealing with your silliness. Here's a simple question for you. How much have you spent? According to your posts, your second trip to Medellin was about 1 year ago. In that year, how much did you spend? This includes living expenses, both in the US and Medellin. It includes all travel expenses. It includes all bills, such as cable, electric, phone, etc. It includes all you spent on food, furniture, clothing and entertainment. It includes all you spent on pussy. How much? Grand total of the last 1 year of your life?

You don't need to post the amount. Just answer this question: was it more or less than $30,000 USD? I'm betting more.

So you're criticizing me because I spent less money, worked less and had greater access to the women of Medellin for twice as long as you? And I got much better BBBJs while I was at it, because I never got so bored with a blowjob that I had to go read ISG.

Do you want the dick pics erect or limp?

JjBee62
03-26-19, 02:25
I'm in Medellin getting a BBBJ as I type this, you're my last worryI can't help it. This is comedy gold. It's simultaneously one of the most hilarious and saddest things I've ever read.

In the middle of, not just a blowjob, but a bareback blowjob, you grab your phone, login to ISG to read what I've written and you reply that I'm you're last worry. During a BBBJ.

We need to add a new acronym.

PN. When you dig out your old golf shoes with the metal spikes in order to stomp on someone and you end up stepping on your own dick.

During a BBBJ.

Balboa
03-26-19, 03:18
I can't help it. This is comedy gold. It's simultaneously one of the most hilarious and saddest things I've ever read... It's all kind of funny really, this strange obsession with your time in Medellin, your business opportunity that fell through, and your finances.

I personally admire those who take opportunities and chances and live life.

To ridicule another for a business endeavor that fell through is strange to me.

Truth is, a year straight living in Medellin is an invaluable experience.

Returning and enjoying the city every month is also enviable.

As we all know, there are many ways to enjoy Medellin.

No reason for petty jealousies and silly jabs.
I don’t get it, unless it’s just enjoyable to quibble, Lol.

Balboa out. 🤪

Paulie97
03-28-19, 12:13
It's all kind of funny really, this strange obsession with your time in Medellin, your business opportunity that fell through, and your finances. I personally admire those who take opportunities and chances and live life.For this statement to make any sense there must not be any such thing as bad business decisions. But there are as the original version of JJBee's story proves. He sells all he has, puts together two suitcases and moves to Medellin to rent a room from a webcam model he met as a customer (voyeur, "peeping tom" whatever lolol). And the obsessions are his, one with writing these long posts trying to put his best spin on the webcam debacle. Problem is I sat and talked with him on a number of occasions and he was all set to make his fortune in the webcam business. Now he says he knew it was a "long shot. " he claims he wasn't cheated but he was again and again on Facebook lamenting to his audience about how he never got paid for his work. He calls the fact that he was screwed a "fair trade" for living in Medellin for a year, but he could have done the same without the webcam venture. He could have just as easily rented a room someplace else for a year, or seen the writing on the wall early. There's no correlation, no "trade" took place.

He's also long been obsessed with Pollo Negro. Yes Pollo Negro talks things up some for entertainment purposes. JJBee regularly takes shots at him and Pollo hits back, and admittedly too often.

He's also obsessed with being the all wise one here. All is well as long as others are deferring to his wisdom. But if he gets challenged, called out on his condescending attitude or passive-aggressive snipes he starts slinging mud. It's devolved to that with a number of posters here. Just look up his wars with see Jack Sparrow for one. In my case I challenged him on some points regarding negotiations and dealing with problem girls in the room, and many here found my perspective more reasonable. In response he blasts confidential information regarding an unrelated, bad experience of mine. Discussion of his business ventures only followed this, so you are missing the chronology here.

Anyway I don't see much if any new ground being covered here. If I see some new material worth responding to I'll weigh in again. Keep on obsessing folks. LOL I haven't posted here in three weeks and have a business to run. Medellin in May, Yuuuppppiiii.

John Clayton
03-31-19, 19:44
Definitely have seen this guy at the Java Hut in Fairfax:

https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/renno-arrest-medellin-sfo-colombia-charges-13730140.php

Lesson to be learned. Don't be an idiot.

LeyenLouvain
07-20-19, 14:11
I met a SW in El Centro around midnight who I went with to a room for 40 k. She persuaded me to go for longer to a local hotel for 80 k (+hotel 30 k). My intention was to stay with her for an hour or two before taking an Uber alone to where I was staying.

Between 2 am and 5 am I have no recollection of what happened but I woke around 5 am in the hotel with her next to me. We exchanged numbers and left around 6 am. I went to the Metro.

I remember the Metro being extremely busy so I was waiting for a quieter train. I am not sure how many trains I let pass, but one Police officer approached me kindly telling me to get on a train, and then later another approached me telling me much more firmly to get on a train.

I found later that a few thousand pesos was missing (ie not much), along with a handful of single dollar USD bills (they were only in my wallet to satisfy a potential mugger that that was my main wallet).

Given that it was not my intention to sleep in the room with her, and that I was possibly half asleep on the Metro platform, does this sound like a drugging incident?

Orgasmico
07-20-19, 19:46
Given that it was not my intention to sleep in the room with her, and that I was possibly half asleep on the Metro platform, does this sound like a drugging incident?IMO, it doesn't. Typically, if drugged and you wake up, you would wake up alone with anything of value gone.

Combo
07-21-19, 01:14
IMO, it doesn't. Typically, if drugged and you wake up, you would wake up alone with anything of value gone.And you'd be out a lot longer. Those knockout drugs are serious stuff.

Fun Luvr
07-21-19, 01:40
I met a SW in El Centro around midnight ... Given that it was not my intention to sleep in the room with her, and that I was possibly half asleep on the Metro platform, does this sound like a drugging incident?There are many types of drugs. A light dose of a date-r ape drug could possibly do that to you. The question is, what opportunity did you give her to introduce any drugs into your system?

Wolf662
07-21-19, 04:30
I met a SW in El Centro around midnight who I went with to a room for 40 k.
Personally I do all my Centro SW searching between 10 am and 5 pm, it's gets sketchier the later it gets and a lot less cops out and about. After dark I hit the strip clubs instead.

Balboa
07-21-19, 19:39
Personally I do all my Centro SW searching between 10 am and 5 pm, it's gets sketchier the later it gets and a lot less cops out and about. After dark I hit the strip clubs instead.Great plan Wolf!

I do the same, sometimes till about 7 pm.

You're right though, it gets sketchier the later it gets!

JjBee62
07-21-19, 22:20
Great plan Wolf!

I do the same, sometimes till about 7 pm.

You're right though, it gets sketchier the later it gets!After 8 or 9 pm the pickings are slimmer too. At least that's been my experience.

LeyenLouvain
07-22-19, 12:55
There are many types of drugs. A light dose of a date-r ape drug could possibly do that to you. The question is, what opportunity did you give her to introduce any drugs into your system?Well we had a beer each in the first room, and again in the second place.

I had maximum 3 beers the whole evening, I wouldn't normally be drunk or fall asleep after this amount.

KilledSoul
07-28-19, 22:55
I am new to mongering. Last night encountered a hooker with smelly vagina and a small hint of white discharge. Just wanted to ask is this normal vaginal bacteria imbalance or some STD? And what do other mongers do when they take a hooker and encounter similar thing? Do you continue or terminate the session?

Mr Enternational
07-28-19, 23:04
And what do other mongers do when they take a hooker and encounter similar thing? Do you continue or terminate the session?I jack off in her mouth.

IronQuinn
07-29-19, 17:15
I am new to mongering. Last night encountered a hooker with smelly vagina and a small hint of white discharge. Just wanted to ask is this normal vaginal bacteria imbalance or some STD? And what do other mongers do when they take a hooker and encounter similar thing? Do you continue or terminate the session?Sounds like you had a run-in with good old Mr. Yeast infection. You don't have to kill the session (though I know it's a mood killer), just flip her over for anal. If that's not in the cards, head is the best way to go.

KilledSoul
08-01-19, 07:05
Sounds like you had a run-in with good old Mr. Yeast infection. You don't have to kill the session (though I know it's a mood killer), just flip her over for anal. If that's not in the cards, head is the best way to go.The poor girl tried to jack me off by giving a BBBJ but my dick went so flacid that it became an inverted vagina.

Orgasmico
08-02-19, 13:55
https://colombiareports.com/medellins-new-kind-of-sex-tourism-immersion/

One of the downsides of Medellin's increase in tourism is the increase in sex tourism, an evolving industry that now includes an "immersion program" to teach visitors how to get laid.

The program is run by "dating coach" Austen Summers whose theoretic element of the program, according to his promotion video, includes an abundance of advice on how to have sex.

The "field practice" element of the "picking up girls" program includes apparent street harassment, grabbing women's breasts and allegedly getting removed from a college campus after trying to recruit women for a hotel party.

While being a misogynist is legal in Colombia to the point of abuse, it is unclear whether Summers' program on how to pick up girls and "achieve results" is.

Colombia Reports reached out to the "dating coach" to verify if Summers had the appropriate visa papers to carry out his controversial commercial activity, but was unable to get a response.

Update (July 31).

Summers has stopped advertising his sex tourism program, took down his Youtube video and, according to members, has ended all online activity in Medellin expat forums where he was allowed to promote his "immersion" program. It is unclear whether he is still in Colombia or has left the country.

(It will be interesting to see if this gains any momentum and causes any change in things like immigration / visa process.).

YippieKayay
08-02-19, 19:26
(It will be interesting to see if this gains any momentum and causes any change in things like immigration / visa process.).Unlikely. He'll either leave before they do or they'll find something to charge him with. Then this will be a distant memory.

They're not going to kill their tourism business by requiring visas. People will just go somewhere else.

Orgasmico
08-02-19, 21:06
Unlikely. He'll either leave before they do or they'll find something to charge him with. Then this will be a distant memory.

They're not going to kill their tourism business by requiring visas. People will just go somewhere else.I meant if he isn't a tourist and has some type visa that he violated. If he is a tourist, then what he was doing by having a business in Colombia might be a violation of that status.

I was told that years ago Colin Post from the Expat Chronicles was barred from Colombia after posting on his blog about his sex / drugs lifestyle, which included a Bogota Brothel Tour. Perhaps something similar might happen to this dude.

YippieKayay
08-02-19, 21:31
I meant if he isn't a tourist and has some type visa that he violated. If he is a tourist, then what he was doing by having a business in Colombia might be a violation of that status.

I was told that years ago Colin Post from the Expat Chronicles was barred from Colombia after posting on his blog about his sex / drugs lifestyle, which included a Bogota Brothel Tour. Perhaps something similar might happen to this dude.Yes. Every time some guy tries to run a business out of this hobby he gets burned.

Orgasmico
08-06-19, 02:27
Yes. Every time some guy tries to run a business out of this hobby he gets burned.https://thebogotapost.com/medellin-dating-academy-draws-ire-from-feminist-sphere/39849/?fbclid=IwAR3VFVwBmpcy5cEZckitDWDggKjSQdJTLcw9RnY5I8Gp7yzTGOeze0aweN0

"One woman reported that she was allegedly approached by Summers and one of his students who started following her in the middle of the night. After she initially rejects the student's advances, he accuses her of being racist after asking her why she "didn't like black dick. " he then berates her. ".

"Due to its violent history, Medellin has never had big waves of foreign visitors compared to other cities in the region. In 2015, 212,000 foreigners visited the city and in 2019 this number has almost surpassed a million. While foreigners are mostly treated with kindness and respect, this reception to visitors will likely change if the paradigm of sexual and drug-related tourism keeps increasing. ".

YippieKayay
08-06-19, 04:51
https://thebogotapost.com/medellin-dating-academy-draws-ire-from-feminist-sphere/39849/?fbclid=IwAR3VFVwBmpcy5cEZckitDWDggKjSQdJTLcw9RnY5I8Gp7yzTGOeze0aweN0

"One woman reported that she was allegedly approached by Summers and one of his students who started following her in the middle of the night. After she initially rejects the student's advances, he accuses her of being racist after asking her why she "didn't like black dick. " he then berates her. ".
The irony! The only reason you would think every Colombian woman is DTF is because you are a racist! Ha!

Orgasmico
08-06-19, 10:46
The irony! The only reason you would think every Colombian woman is DTF is because you are a racist! Ha!This is just the tip of the iceberg in terms of how the scene is changing. Enjoy it while it lasts!

Linyjo
08-07-19, 16:04
I am new to mongering. Last night encountered a hooker with smelly vagina and a small hint of white discharge. Just wanted to ask is this normal vaginal bacteria imbalance or some STD? And what do other mongers do when they take a hooker and encounter similar thing? Do you continue or terminate the session?Tell her your pussy stinks and has a discharge.

Give her 5 K for a taxi and tell her to leave.

If she is so unsanitary down there, I would not even risk her mouth on my dick.

JjBee62
08-07-19, 21:03
I am disappointed with what I have read over and over on this thread and on many others.

What I see is people come to the board to try to get help getting what they want from their trip and all they get is people telling them they are stupid and to do something else instead.

To those that came here looking for help getting what you want.

You do you buddy. Don't let anyone tell you to do the opposite and seek other things.

You have an idea in your mind of what you are trying to do, you do it. You may crash and burn and you may end up without what you want but you have to do you. It is your money, it is your time, it is your trip. You spend it the way you want to.I'll try not to be too harsh.

On this forum I'm only dealing with adults. No fragile kiddies who might be scarred by hearing about reality. Grown men who are traveling to a place that can be dangerous if they're walking around with their head in the clouds. Just like others did for me, when I first started posting about how I was going to reinvent mongering, I give the best advice I can, even if it bursts their bubble.

I've taken plenty of people on casa runs and strip club visits, taken a few to check out the street girls at Veracruz, Raudal and Mayorista and helped several get started on Facebook. I've also preached for people to find what's best for them. While it may not be the advice someone wants to hear, I always give the best advice I can.

Which brings us to fantasies. A fantasy is a very specific thing. If someone wants to check off a bucket list item, no problem. They will probably be okay however it turns out. Plus there are plenty of guys who can offer useful advice. However, when a guy is fantasizing about someone who resembles some porn star to fulfill their anal fantasy, they are setting themselves up for an epic failure.

The fantasy is something he's thought about too much. He's probably watched videos of that particular porn star, imagining himself as her co-star. Of course the fantasy leaves out all the background stuff to produce the porn clip. If he could hire that specific porn actress, it would probably be okay. It still wouldn't meet his expectations, but he would have the compensation of being with his favorite porn star.

However, instead of a porn star, who knows what to do, he'll have a girl who doesn't even speak his language. He'll have a girl who probably didn't properly prepare for his anal fantasy. He'll have a girl who might not even be willing to do anal with him. He'll have a girl who might not be as clean as he wants. He'll have a girl who might not look like her pictures. He'll have a girl who may have too little or too much experience. He'll have a girl who might not do anything in the way he expects.

He might still have a good time with the girl. However, he's not there to have a good time. He's there to duplicate something that only exists in his mind. How is anyone supposed to help with that? Especially with a woman who he'll only talk to for a few seconds before trying to achieve his dream.

There are 2 possible ways to help. The easiest way is to tell him to forget about the fantasy. Why build your expectations around an impossible dream? It's enough to spoil his entire trip.

The hard way he's already said he's not interested in. That would be to get on Facebook, get in contact with every prepago he can find. Talk to as many as possible. Find the ones who are down for anal. Find the ones who have the look he's looking for. Tell them about his fantasy. Send them specific videos to show what he wants. Make all the arrangements to do it right. If he finds the right girl, he might just pull it off.

Sometimes the best advice is to tell someone to change their plans.

Fun Luvr
08-08-19, 01:04
However, instead of a porn star, who knows what to do, he'll have a girl who doesn't even speak his language. He'll have a girl who probably didn't properly prepare for his anal fantasy. He'll have a girl who might not even be willing to do anal with him. He'll have a girl who might not be as clean as he wants. He'll have a girl who might not look like her pictures. He'll have a girl who may have too little or too much experience. He'll have a girl who might not do anything in the way he expects.
...
Sometimes the best advice is to tell someone to change their plans.There is also the possibility that he may find someone who exceeds all his expectations. I have had my expectations exceeded many times, and I am very picky.

JjBee62
08-08-19, 01:19
There is also the possibility that he may find someone who exceeds all his expectations. I have had my expectations exceeded many times, and I am very picky.Sure. But how many times have you picked a girl because she reminds you of a porn star that you have a very specific fantasy about?

I've gone to casas expecting a typical casa session and walked out feeling like I won Olympic gold. My expectations were exceeded because I went in with reasonable expectations. Go to a casa sometime expecting to have the greatest experience of your life. Then come back and talk to me about having your expectations exceeded.

The problem with the fantasy is that it puts blinders on you. It keeps you from making good choices. It also starts you out with completely unreasonable expectations.

Combo
08-08-19, 01:38
Tell her your pussy stinks and has a discharge.

Give her 5 K for a taxi and tell her to leave.

If she is so unsanitary down there, I would not even risk her mouth on my dick.That is my policy also. If a girl has really bad hygiene (infection, period, or whatever), I give her taxi money and explain why I can't bone her. Though I usually give them 20 k. This is going to happen a certain (small) percentage of the time and one shouldn't let it throw you off.

JjBee62
08-25-19, 15:56
Are you really quoting a guy who misquoted me? Seriously? Don't let the fact that I didn't lose the girl to a guy with more money or a better body get in the way of your opinion though.Half my time is spent explaining simple sentences to people with no reading comprehension skills.

According to you, you were worried about losing your girl to some guy with perfect abs, or some guy who would pay her more than you. Is there any misconception there? How you "lost" her is irrelevant.

If you are paying a girl to be with you, you don't have her to lose. She's a rental.

Did you understand it this time? If not, I'm at a loss. I don't know how to use crayons to explain things on the forum.


Then why would you post anything else?Here's a word you should get someone to explain to you: "superlative."

When you say "all Venezuelans" or "every Venezuelan" you're using a superlative. It's a logical fallacy. Sorry to create more work for whoever needs to simplify these things for you.

I have not met all Venezuelans. You have not met all Venezuelans. I can't speak for all Venezuelans. However, you feel your experience with 1 Venezuelan makes you the spokesman for all 32 million.

That's why I posted something else, because my Venezuelan experience has been different than your Venezuelan experience. The biggest difference is, I don't try to claim all Venezuelans are exactly the same.


Let me ask you and ME this question then given your incredible "knowledge" on Venezuela.

Venezuela has larger oil reserves than Saudi Arabia so why is Saudi Arabia a rich country and Venezuela a poor one?I'm assuming "ME" is referring to Mr Enternational.

Did someone replace the "Kick me" sign on my back with a "show me you're incapable of reason" sign?

Time for a history lesson. Let's start with Iran. In the early 1900's Great Britain gained the rights to Iran's oil reserves. Iran was getting screwed in the deal and in 1950, tried to take their petroleum industry back. With the help of British and US intelligence forces, the government was overthrown and placed in the hands of a sympathetic leader. This got Iran a better deal, but still allowed plenty of profit for US and British petroleum.

Iran profited. The Shah profited even more. Then came the student revolution. Our oil companies got the boot and they've been our enemy ever since. As a result, their economy has suffered.

Now we move to Saudi Arabia. The kingdom instigated the search for oil, brought in the experts and controlled the agreements. This allowed them to strike a better deal from the start. As the need for oil grew, their wealth grew. After the 1973 oil embargo forced oil prices higher, their wealth grew faster. Since the US oil companies benefit from the arrangement, Saudi Arabia became our fair haired (although swarthy and dark haired) child in the region. They can do no wrong as long as our companies get their share.

Next stop, Venezuela.

Are you beginning to notice a trend? From 1943-1976 Venezuela received 50% of oil revenues. They prospered. In 1976 they nationalized the oil industry. They still prospered, although there were problems.

Then in 1999 Chavez took over. Instead of continuing investment in the oil industry, he used the profits for social programs. He also used the money that should have been reinvested in the oil industry.

When you stop feeding your cash cow, the cow dies. This led to runaway inflation. A contributing factor was the animosity between Chavez and the US. Losing out on such a convenient market made the situation worse. Maduro has done nothing to reverse Chavez's policies. The inflation continues. The collapse continues. The US is happy because once the Maduro government falls, our companies can go back to Venezuela and start reaping the profits again.

The more important question is, what does any of that have to do with the attitudes of all Venezuelans? What does it have to do with their understanding of capitalism? They've been going to the stores to buy their goods their whole life. They've been selling the products they make their whole life. There has never been some magical Venezuelan fairy who pops up and brings people masarepa, beans, rice, eggs and chicken whenever they say "Hail Chavez. " Their lives have been, until the recent problems, almost indistinguishable from the lives of Colombians.

Some are good. Some are bad. Some are sweet and loving. Some are cold and calculating. Some are intelligent. Some aren't.

It's too bad you hooked up with one and it didn't turn out the way you wanted. But it's time to accept some of the blame, instead of trying to blame your failure on the entire population of Venezuela.

LeyenLouvain
09-26-19, 00:48
There are many types of drugs. A light dose of a date-r ape drug could possibly do that to you. The question is, what opportunity did you give her to introduce any drugs into your system?Following on from the above, just wondering after how meetings with a girl you would trust her with your open drink while going to the bathroom etc?

BedWetter
10-20-19, 17:40
Anyone have good recommendations for casinos in Bogota or Medellin. I prefer table games over slots.

FortuneWaffers
10-29-19, 18:15
Anyone have good recommendations for casinos in Bogota or Medellin. I prefer table games over slots.IDK about Bogota but for Medellin.

Casino San Fernando in El Poblado.

Type it directly into Uber. Most Taxi drivers should know where it is.

5 Mil Table Minimum.

Perfect Pair Mini Game Starting at 2 Mil side bet. On Suit Pairs pay 35 x the wager, of suit, 12 x.

PaisaPorFavor
10-29-19, 22:46
Casino Rio in Medellíand.


Anyone have good recommendations for casinos in Bogota or Medellin. I prefer table games over slots.

Queens35
01-20-20, 05:52
Although I used to adore the place years ago, I rarely go to Parque Lleras anymore. Either it has changed, my point of view has changed, or the place's warts have become exposed. Probably a combination of all 3. I was bored on Sunday, I ventured over there. It has been at least 18 months since I was there, and probably more than a year before that.

Although there have been some upgrades since 10 years ago, it appears to me mildly more rundown and dirty than the old days. For me, clearly its most glorious days are behind. Divina Cielo for example was once a fair restaurant. Good memories there. I see now it is just a beer and hotdog stand.

Its so very overrun by foreigners now, mostly from the US. There are (I'll try to say this kindly) displaced African men raised in the US by their displaced African ancestors. I suspect on the East Coast and Southern regions. They run in packs of 3-12. This is new in the past 2-3 years. Do they have their own airline and hotel now?? They speak a corrupt form of English, largely recognizable and functional only to their group. Spanish is out of the question for most of them. Strangely, there are often no women tagging along. You might also see these huddles in strip clubs or even casas. Most of them dress in a manner that fits in here.

The geezer gringos tend to fly solo or in pairs at most..Who are you to judge these guys? Let them be, they aren't affecting you so no reason to make fun.

TurdyCurdyOne
01-20-20, 09:33
Although I used to adore the place years ago, I rarely go to Parque Lleras anymore. Either it has changed, my point of view has changed, or the place's warts have become exposed. Probably a combination of all 3. I was bored on Sunday, I ventured over there. It has been at least 18 months since I was there, and probably more than a year before that.

Although there have been some upgrades since 10 years ago, it appears to me mildly more rundown and dirty than the old days. For me, clearly its most glorious days are behind. Divina Cielo for example was once a fair restaurant. Good memories there. I see now it is just a beer and hotdog stand.

Its so very overrun by foreigners now, mostly from the US. There are (I'll try to say this kindly) displaced African men raised in the US by their displaced African ancestors. I suspect on the East Coast and Southern regions. They run in packs of 3-12. This is new in the past 2-3 years. Do they have their own airline and hotel now?? They speak a corrupt form of English, largely recognizable and functional only to their group. Spanish is out of the question for most of them. Strangely, there are often no women tagging along. You might also see these huddles in strip clubs or even casas. Most of them dress in a manner that fits in here.

The geezer gringos tend to fly solo or in pairs at most. They are distinguished by their sloppy or ill-advised clothes and white sneakers. They're seen also struggling through the learning curve of Whatsapp and translator apps. I saw no clumsy Chinese this visit..Funny post and, unlike many posts on this board, it's honest. Same could be said, except for the Black groups of the Philippines. But it takes a long time to catch on to this because you just a stupid foreigner here at least for the first few years. Do not waste money on meals, etc. Unless you already have a loving relationship with them which usually only occurs with women close to your age and with whom you have a good personality match and speak their language. There is no point in dressing up a pig and putting on lipstick, it's still a pig metaphorically speaking of such "relationships."

Septimius
01-20-20, 09:56
Panama has better female quality surprisingly than Colombia, in terms of looks atleast (girls from all over South America go to Panama) but the service is terrible.Man it's definitely a case of beauty is in the eye of the beholder. In my opinion the female quality was much better in Colombia for sure. The malls, the streets, tinder chicks, etc. All ranked above the Panamanian chicks I saw the last time I was there. I do have to agree that the service is terrible in Panama though. This is why I'm heading back to Colombia this week LOL.


Although I used to adore the place years ago, I rarely go to Parque Lleras anymore. Either it has changed, my point of view has changed, or the place's warts have become exposed. Probably a combination of all 3. I was bored on Sunday, I ventured over there. It has been at least 18 months since I was there, and probably more than a year before that.

That's some funny fuckin shit right there LOL. The post had me laughing but it also came with some good advice. I wonder what group I fall into??

ChuchoLoco
01-20-20, 15:58
Although I used to adore the place years ago, I rarely go to Parque Lleras anymore. Either it has changed, my point of view has changed, or the place's warts have become exposed. Probably a combination of all 3. I was bored on Sunday, I ventured over there. It has been at least 18 months since I was there, and probably more than a year before that.

Although there have been some upgrades since 10 years ago, it appears to me mildly more rundown and dirty than the old days. For me, clearly its most glorious days are behind. Divina Cielo for example was once a fair restaurant. Good memories there. I see now it is just a beer and hotdog stand.

Its so very overrun by foreigners now, mostly from the US. There are (I'll try to say this kindly) displaced African men raised in the US by their displaced African ancestors. I suspect on the East Coast and Southern regions. They run in packs of 3-12. This is new in the past 2-3 years. Do they have their own airline and hotel now?? They speak a corrupt form of English, largely recognizable and functional only to their group. Spanish is out of the question for most of them. Strangely, there are often no women tagging along. You might also see these huddles in strip clubs or even casas. Most of them dress in a manner that fits in here.No need to read a book or look any further for how it is. This post says it all! Excelente job SR.

P.S. can someone tell me how to cut down a quote? Although in this case it's all good reading.

Wrx2005
01-20-20, 16:10
Although I used to adore the place years ago, I rarely go to Parque Lleras anymore. Either it has changed, my point of view has changed, or the place's warts have become exposed. Probably a combination of all 3. I was bored on Sunday, I ventured over there. It has been at least 18 months since I was there, and probably more than a year before that.

Although there have been some upgrades since 10 years ago, it appears to me mildly more rundown and dirty than the old days. For me, clearly its most glorious days are behind. Divina Cielo for example was once a fair restaurant. Good memories there. I see now it is just a beer and hotdog stand.

Its so very overrun by foreigners now, mostly from the US. There are (I'll try to say this kindly) displaced African men raised in the US by their displaced African ancestors. I suspect on the East Coast and Southern regions. They run in packs of 3-12. This is new in the past 2-3 years. Do they have their own airline and hotel now?? They speak a corrupt form of English, largely recognizable and functional only to their group. Spanish is out of the question for most of them. Strangely, there are often no women tagging along. You might also see these huddles in strip clubs or even casas. Most of them dress in a manner that fits in here.

The geezer gringos tend to fly solo or in pairs at most. They are distinguished by their sloppy or ill-advised clothes and white sneakers. They're seen also struggling through the learning curve of Whatsapp and translator apps. I saw no clumsy Chinese this visit.

Below we see a really, uh.. "big" and uh.. "senior" geezer in a Hawaaiian shirt... with his date. She sits as far away from him as possible in a booth. She looked every bit the unhappy wage earning minion in an office cubicle picking at a brown bag lunch, as he stuffed his face. Fellows, colombianas are affectionate and attentive. If a lady won't sit near you, cut your losses and send her on her way. You repulse her.

This other guy actually was wearing lanyard around his neck, what?. I'll give him credit though he was trying to speak spanish with her.

Here's the thing gentlemen. These girls do NOT want to sit down and eat a meal with you. This activity is done only with family or close friends in their culture. It is boring, uncomfortable, and just odd to do it with a stranger, a foreigner no less. You are not ingratiating yourself by buying a dinner. In their view its a waste of money that could be going in to their pocket. Or, a waste of time and money that could be spent getting drunk. You are adding to their discomfort or misery of being with you. And for heaven's sake don't make them watch American Football. Almost nothing could be less interesting to them.

They WANT TO get drunk and high. Take them to a a rumba bar (nice or a dump, it doesn't matter) and let them drink to their heart's content for a couple of hours. Now you're showing them a good time! Do NOT let them bring friends or "cousins", you will be locked out immediately. DO let them gradually bond and party with other girls in the bar. Now they're having fun with you. If they are skilled dancers take them to a salsa bar. Let them dance with other good dancers. That's NOT you. Cut them off after about 2-1/2 hours, typically 1 am, or they will be too drunk and tired to play when you get behind closed doors.Ya know life is about ongoing change. Not about satisfying individual egos. Back in the day when the beetles hit the scene, some people were put off by things that brought about change around the world. But the world and people in it adapted in spite of that.

I have a few questions. Have the Colombian people and service providers ( hoes too ) adapted to the presence of whoever has entered their scene? Will relations and interactions be fine tuned over time? Will there be more changes 10 more years down the road? Will there be individuals offering their perspective of the current scene when it happens, and how things used to be? Will people move about their lives regardless of opinion or perspectives of others? The answers to these questions is a resounding yes.

That being the case. I think people should just learn to let life do it's thing. Maybe just be pleased in the fact, that the world is not defective, it is evolving normally. If Colombian people are the ones responsible for giving access to their country to foreigners, doesn't it make sense that foreigners from all over would actually come? How does a place become over run with foreigners or a particular group if the Colombian people are the ones inviting foreigners to visit or live in their country? Wont the visa and tourist requirements take care of that?

Is it a foreigner problem being discussed here, or a personal problem? It's much easier to get rid of a few disgruntled individuals than to move the earth and the people in it to satisfy them.

SJobs
01-20-20, 19:25
Its so very overrun by foreigners now, mostly from the US. There are (I'll try to say this kindly) displaced African men raised in the US by their displaced African ancestors. I suspect on the East Coast and Southern regions. They run in packs of 3-12. This is new in the past 2-3 years. Do they have their own airline and hotel now?? They speak a corrupt form of English, largely recognizable and functional only to their group. Spanish is out of the question for most of them. Strangely, there are often no women tagging along. You might also see these huddles in strip clubs or even casas. Most of them dress in a manner that fits in here.This is a terrible (borderline disrespectful) way to describe the African American people, their culture is an integral part of the American culture, and they have every right to be in Lleras as any of us. I love to party with people from different cultural background, and I often learn a lot from them.


The geezer gringos tend to fly solo or in pairs at most. They are distinguished by their sloppy or ill-advised loathes and white sneakers. They're seen also struggling through the learning curve of Whatsapp and translator apps. I saw no clumsy Chinese this visit.I take it that you are not from America nor Asian, and you pretty much dislike other people's culture preferences. If that's the case, why travel at all.


Below we see a really, uh.. "big" and uh.. "senior" geezer in a Hawaaiian shirt... with his date. She sits as far away from him as possible in a booth. She looked every bit the unhappy wage earning minion in an office cubicle picking at a brown bag lunch, as he stuffed his face. Fellows, Colombians are affectionate and attentive. If a lady won't sit near you, cut your losses and send her on her way. You repulse her.

This other guy actually was wearing lanyard around his neck, what?. I'll give him credit though he was trying to speak spanish with her.

Here's the thing gentlemen. These girls do NOT want to sit down and eat a meal with you. This activity is done only with family or close friends in their culture. It is boring, uncomfortable, and just odd to do it with a stranger, a foreigner no less. You are not ingratiating yourself by buying a dinner. In their view its a waste of money that could be going in to their pocket. Or, a waste of time and money that could be spent getting drunk. You are adding to their discomfort or misery of being with you. And for heaven's sake don't make them watch American Football. Almost nothing could be less interesting to them .It is obvious that you have a strong opinion on what the girls in lleras want, but it is just an opinion, don't confuse that with fact. I doubt that you have conducted a survey on the psychological state of the working girls in lleras that's large enough to allow you to draw any reliable conclusion. Besides, like Mr. E said, they are escorting, serving a client's need is their job.


they are skilled dancers take them to a salsa bar. Let them dance with other good dancers. That's NOT you.No need to pay an escort to dance with other guys, it is an unintelligent way to spend your money. Save the money and signup for salsa class.

JjBee62
01-20-20, 22:37
SpiderRider,

I just wrote a complete rebuttal, before deleting it. What would be the point?

There's a lot of stuff in here that horrifies me. How could someone continue to visit a country with such a diverse racial mix, yet hold such opinions about African Americans? You made it crystal clear, you feel they have no business living anywhere except Africa. However, everyone is entitled to their beliefs.

There is some stuff that's wrong, and that's what I'll address.

Colombians go out to eat all the time. Even in the poorest areas you'll find little restaurants, some with only 2 or 3 tables. While they often do go out in groups they also go alone, with a co-worker, or just a friend. I've had many enjoyable meals with Colombianas. Not boring, not uncomfortable, nobody was repulsed.

Every girl I've invited to lunch or dinner has been appreciative. With friends, they'll sometimes say they can't afford it, but if I tell them I'm inviting them, they'll accept. Later, they will invite me.

In Colombia, inviting someone means you are paying. "Vamos a almorzar. Te invito. " Let's go to lunch. I'm inviting you, means my treat. "Voy a almorzar. Quieres venir conmigo? I'm going to lunch. Do you want to come along? That means I'm not offering to buy, but I'd welcome the company.

Colombianas are affectionate. They're also conscious about appearance. Most of the girls we are seeing are estrato 1-3. Parque Lleras is estrato 6. Unless you're with a Mansion girl, who eats with an old monger in Lleras 3 times a week, she's out of her comfort zone. Plus, it's obvious to her everyone knows she's a puta. I've seen very few girls snuggling up with men in the Parque Lleras restaurants. This includes obvious Colombian couples.

Not all Colombianas just want to get drunk or high. If you're paying someone for sex and she just wants to get drunk or high, you're paying the wrong person.

Taking someone out, who you're paying to fuck, is fine; dinner, drinks, movie, dancing, whatever. Letting her drink as much as she wants is a bad idea. It's an even worse idea if you're drinking too. Here's just a few things you may end up dealing with:

Bar fight.

Vomit.

Vomit in the lobby.

Vomit in the elevator.

Vomit in your bed.

Vomit in your jacuzzi tub.

Crying girl.

Screaming girl.

Violent girl.

Angry guys.

Passed out girl.

Getting drugged.

Getting arrested.

Getting robbed.

Getting killed.

Plus you're spending money that's just getting in the way of what you wanted to do. Fuck the girl. If you want a drunk or high girl, go to Club Fahrenheit at 5 am. There will be plenty to choose from, already drunk or high. Or have drinks or drugs available at your apartment. It's cheaper. You remain in control. No risk from other people. Plus, instead of spending money to watch your girl dance with someone else, she can be dancing, naked, for you.

Here's my suggestion:

Do what works for you. It may not be right for someone else. If you want to take a girl out to eat, do it. If you want to take her to a movie, a mall, or to walk around Parque Arvi, do it. If you want to take her dancing, drinking, or out sniffing glue, do it. If you just want to fuck her and send her on her way, do it. If you want to pick girls of the street, from casas or strip clubs, or you want to pick the 2 million pesos per hour girl off an escort site, do it.

It's your life and your money. Make the most of both. One or the other will eventually run out. Enjoy it while you can.

If you're not enjoying where you're at, or what you're doing, go somewhere else, do something else. Don't just sit around bitching about other people enjoying themselves.

PolloNegro
01-21-20, 02:45
SpiderRider,

Funny thing about perception is, you are assuming that you understand a situation that you are not involved in. Most people when they meet me, they cannot tell if I am American, Jamaican, Dominican, when In fact I was born in Puerto Rico. At first Medellin was difficult to understand, because I tried to reason with people who were truly trying to survive and not under any rhyme or reason.

In America, if a 60 year old man marries a 22 year old woman it looks crazy, in Medellin it looks just the opposite. Have you ever seen two 22 year old Colombians married? I have and I have also seen them sleeping in the park with their new born baby. So having a 60 year old well established guy who chooses to marry a 22 year old girl and provide her with what she needs, sure beats sleeping in Parque Botero with your husband and child.

Many of you guys on the board are over thinking it and are way too judgmental without knowing the entire situation. Many people contact me and still to this day, they try and make me understand why they choose Poblado over centro, but still have an itch to visit Centro? What is it about a place that you truly despise that makes you want to visit. What makes you think an expensive WG is better than a poor WG? They are both working girls. Many guys have contacted me to help them locate antibiotics after the condom broke, guess where most of the guys were staying and guess where most of their WGs were from? You guessed it, Poblado.

I am still baffled by the fact that guys can be in the land of pussy and all they can come to the board and contribute is how African Guys travel in groups, Chinese guys are stupid, and the fat old guys is repulsed by the girl he takes to the mall for a meal. Contribute guys, contribute, tell us about girls and where they are, the other BS is for the birds. Pollo Negro is out!

Mojo Bandit
01-21-20, 07:19
SpiderRider,

Displaced African men raised in the US by their displaced African ancestors. I suspect on the East Coast and Southern regions. They run in packs of 3-12.

Seriously we were all displaced from somewhere, the locals have ancestors displaced from Spain, we others from other parts of Europe and beyond.

They speak a corrupt form of English?

Exactly what do you think the British think when you here people from the USA, Canada or Australia talk?

They run in packs of 3-12

Are you saying that they have more friends and people that enjoy being around them?

The geezer gringos tend to fly solo or in pairs at most. They are distinguished by their sloppy or ill-advised clothes and white sneakers. They're seen also struggling through the learning curve of Whatsapp and translator apps.

I am a geezer and do not own a pair of loafers, or white ...did you really call them sneakers? I have not heard anyone call athletic shoes that since the 70s. I am neither baffled nor befuddled by either Whatsapp or a translator. I can read and have opposing thumbs.

Here's the thing gentlemen. These girls do NOT want to sit down and eat a meal with you. This activity is done only with family or close friends in their culture. It is boring, uncomfortable, and just odd to do it with a stranger, a foreigner no less. You are not ingratiating yourself by buying a dinner. In their view its a waste of money that could be going in to their pocket.

The last time I took a chica to dinner, I asked her first , as I usually do, "do you want to go with me to dinner or come over after?" She chose dinner and showed up dressed classy not sexy like she would have if she wanted to come over later. She had a blast picking off my plate and trying to feed me off of hers and picking the dessert and tried feeding that to me also, I was the one that would have been embarrassed had I thought I was ever going to see anyone from that restaurant again.

So are you sure that you have their view at all? All of them?


The key takeaway from your post was the was the descriptive title word Melancholy; an uptown word for sad or an old school word for depressed. It is not a description of the place you were physically in, it is a description of the state your mind is in. Everyone else was there to have a good time, and they probably were. You were there emitting negative vibes. I think I would much enjoy reading their description of Parque Lleras as opposed to the ramblings of a melancholy mind. Have you considered antidepressants? Latina pussy is my antidepressant but it does not seem to be working for you.

Knowledge
01-23-20, 03:25
I couldn't agree more. As I wrote about that pointlessly hostile post once before, there are better ways to boost self esteem. I try to stay out of situations I find frustrating. Like big city nightclubs in Europe and the Americas LOL! But seriously, there are lots of Internet communities that appreciate the kind of stuff in the post about Lleras. On the whole, ISG is not one of them. Foxnews.com or feminist NGO sites would be more receptive.


SpiderRider,

Funny thing about perception is, you are assuming that you understand a situation that you are not involved in. Most people when they meet me, they cannot tell if I am American, Jamaican, Dominican, when In fact I was born in Puerto Rico. At first Medellin was difficult to understand, because I tried to reason with people who were truly trying to survive and not under any rhyme or reason.

In America, if a 60 year old man marries a 22 year old woman it looks crazy, in Medellin it looks just the opposite. Have you ever seen two 22 year old Colombians married? I have and I have also seen them sleeping in the park with their new born baby. So having a 60 year old well established guy who chooses to marry a 22 year old girl and provide her with what she needs, sure beats sleeping in Parque Botero with your husband and child.

Many of you guys on the board are over thinking it and are way too judgmental without knowing the entire situation. Many people contact me and still to this day, they try and make me understand why they choose Poblado over centro, but still have an itch to visit Centro? What is it about a place that you truly despise that makes you want to visit. What makes you think an expensive WG is better than a poor WG? They are both working girls. Many guys have contacted me to help them locate antibiotics after the condom broke, guess where most of the guys were staying and guess where most of their WGs were from? You guessed it, Poblado.

I am still baffled by the fact that guys can be in the land of pussy and all they can come to the board and contribute is how African Guys travel in groups, Chinese guys are stupid, and the fat old guys is repulsed by the girl he takes to the mall for a meal. Contribute guys, contribute, tell us about girls and where they are, the other BS is for the birds. Pollo Negro is out!

ChuchoLoco
01-28-20, 21:44
No need to read a book or look any further for how it is. This post says it all! Excelente job SR.

P.S. can someone tell me how to cut down a quote? Although in this case it's all good reading.I wrote a couple times explaining this reply, so this original quote was not my final. I now see how others may have been offended. I guess the guy had a good way with words and I was seeing his thoughts like they were a Mad Magazine or original SNL skit making of stereotypes that he sees or thinks he sees in Lleras. Funny stuff if you don't get offended. Just like comedians of all persuasions.

Let's admit something here and no offense intended to anyone but: Whites make fun of Blacks, Blacks make fun of Whites and we both make fun Asians.

JjBee62
01-29-20, 01:11
I wrote a couple times explaining this reply, so this original quote was not my final. I now see how others may have been offended. I guess the guy had a good way with words and I was seeing his thoughts like they were a Mad Magazine or original SNL skit making of stereotypes that he sees or thinks he sees in Lleras. Funny stuff if you don't get offended. Just like comedians of all persuasions.

Let's admit something here and no offense intended to anyone but: Whites make fun of Blacks, Blacks make fun of Whites and we both make fun Asians.You should have left it alone and let it fade away.

You left out a crucial word: "some. "

Some whites make fun of blacks. Some blacks make fun of whites. Some, black and white, make fun of Asians. However, just because some people do something, doesn't make it right or acceptable.

"Displaced African men raised in the US by their displaced African ancestors" isn't comedy, unless everyone in the audience is dressed up in white sheets.

If someone is born and raised in the US from ancestors who were born and raised in the US for at least 8 generations, they aren't a "displaced African. " They're Americans. Most of those "displaced Africans" can claim a longer family history in the US than many of the guys here.

Just Incognito
01-29-20, 23:39
You should have left it alone and let it fade away.

You left out a crucial word: "some. "

Some whites make fun of blacks. Some blacks make fun of whites. Some, black and white, make fun of Asians. However, just because some people do something, doesn't make it right or acceptable.

"Displaced African men raised in the US by their displaced African ancestors" isn't comedy, unless everyone in the audience is dressed up in white sheets.

If someone is born and raised in the US from ancestors who were born and raised in the US for at least 8 generations, they aren't a "displaced African. " They're Americans. Most of those "displaced Africans" can claim a longer family history in the US than many of the guys here.Agreed 100%. Thank you for writing this. I called that original post drivel and racist and then admin deleted the racist part (why?) The post was racist--I am glad someone else noticed and is setting the record straight! We can do better than this guys! Sheesh!

JjBee62
01-30-20, 11:29
Agreed 100%. Thank you for writing this. I called that original post drivel and racist and then admin deleted the racist part (why?) The post was racist--I am glad someone else noticed and is setting the record straight! We can do better than this guys! Sheesh!Several years ago I worked with a guy who was mixed white and Native American, delivering food to restaurants, schools, prisons, convenience stores, etc. One day I rode along with him as a helper. All day long he pointed out women, "check her out. " I pointed out a few as well.

At the end of the day I spotted a woman with an incredible body. Head to toe, a complete knockout walking down the street. I pointed her out and his reaction blew me away. It went something like:

"Oh my God! You like that? That's disgusting. It makes me sick just to think about that. You mean you'd really want someone like that?

The only difference between her and the other women he had been pointing out all day, she was black. If it had been cold and she had a coat and gloves covering her up, he would have been drooling. A minor difference in skin color changed her from gorgeous to grotesque, in his eyes.

ChuchoLoco
01-30-20, 20:22
You should have left it alone and let it fade away.

You left out a crucial word: "some. "

Some whites make fun of blacks. Some blacks make fun of whites. Some, black and white, make fun of Asians. However, just because some people do something, doesn't make it right or acceptable.

"Displaced African men raised in the US by their displaced African ancestors" isn't comedy, unless everyone in the audience is dressed up in white sheets.

If someone is born and raised in the US from ancestors who were born and raised in the US for at least 8 generations, they aren't a "displaced African. " They're Americans. Most of those "displaced Africans" can claim a longer family history in the US than many of the guys here.Can't argue, I should have left it alone but when I saw that it was posted here too I wanted to clarify But ended up muddying the waters. No offense to anyone intended.

The Tall Man
01-30-20, 23:49
Several years ago I worked with a guy who was mixed white and Native American, delivering food to restaurants, schools, prisons, convenience stores, etc. One day I rode along with him as a helper. All day long he pointed out women, "check her out. " I pointed out a few as well.

At the end of the day I spotted a woman with an incredible body. Head to toe, a complete knockout walking down the street. I pointed her out and his reaction blew me away. It went something like:

"Oh my God! You like that? That's disgusting. It makes me sick just to think about that. You mean you'd really want someone like that?

The only difference between her and the other women he had been pointing out all day, she was black. If it had been cold and she had a coat and gloves covering her up, he would have been drooling. A minor difference in skin color changed her from gorgeous to grotesque, in his eyes.Agreed as I encounter this same reaction for dark skin chicas here in Colombia. My Colombian buddy even went as far as tell me a few years ago that he would never ever consider a black, well fast forward 3 years and because of my prodding he now loves black paisas. For me the blacker the skin the sweeter the cherry.

The Tall Man.

JjBee62
02-28-20, 05:05
Why the fuck would she rat you out. That type of shit will get a ***** hurt she fuck with wrong person.What is wrong with you? Are you planning to go to Lima to beat up a few waitresses?

Have you considered the waitress probably did nothing wrong? She just saw a returning customer.

Mr. E fucked up. You don't take your side girl and your main girl to the same place. Everyone knows that. It's not the waitress' responsibility to keep track of which customers are cheating on who.

Maybe when your voice changes and your balls drop you'll get over this he-man, woman hater bullshit.

JjBee62
03-01-20, 00:29
Let's start with an apology to Balboa. You're correct, my comments about Pence and Trump were political and not helpful. It doesn't help anyone and should have been left out.


I really liked your posts and could up to a certain point understood where you were coming from. You spoiled it all by bringing up politics.

Let me coin a new abbreviation. BHL bleeding heart liberal.Which brings us here.

I'm a BHL. Probably. Almost certainly by your definition. Before I was a staunch conservative. Who knows what I'll be in another 20 years. I don't care if you think I should support your political views. The total number of people who hold my political views is 1. Me.

He didn't spoil his story by bringing up politics. He spoiled his story by trying to rationalize a series of ridiculous mistakes on his part. He didn't even bring up politics. He simply mentioned the current political divide which exists within the US. Read your post and try to tell me it doesn't exist.

It exists. If you want to debate politics with me you'll resort to ad hominem attacks and leave screaming obscenities. I've seen it too many times. Why you or anyone would want to debate politics with me or any other monger is a mystery to me, but some guys are like that.

This is about pussy, finding, getting and enjoying, all without overpaying. I hate to break it to you, but most of these girls lean way left politically. You're literally funding a bunch of bleeding heart liberal feminists, while violating a core principle of the conservatives. Family values. All in a country with a lot more in common with Cuba than the US.

But this is about pussy. Does it matter if the guy you're comparing notes with is liberal, conservative, libertarian, or communist? If you're going to Colombia to discuss US politics there's something wrong with you. The pussy doesn't care. The beer doesn't care. The bandeja paisa doesn't care. So why bring your politics with you?

If someone drops in a political remark, ignore it. None of us are voting in Colombia. I'm sure there are plenty of members of both parties who would be happy to fuck, hot Colombianas for $15-$50. Bring that before Congress and you're going to see some serious bipartisan support. Hillary would probably even endorse it. I'm pretty sure Warren would dive in too.

We don't need to agree politically. We're not campaigning for anyone in Colombia, unless someone forms a "sweet, young pussy party. " We don't need to delve into politics here. We shouldn't delve into politics here. Things get sidetracked often enough. We don't need the whole board to collapse into nothing but politically motivated insults.

If you want to combine hookers and politics, go to Washington DC. Heck, run for Congress and let the lobbyists pay for the hookers.

Rant over.

Mr Enternational
03-02-20, 01:29
Have you considered the waitress probably did nothing wrong? She just saw a returning customer.

Mr. E fucked up. You don't take your side girl and your main girl to the same place. Everyone knows that. It's not the waitress' responsibility to keep track of which customers are cheating on who.Nah she literally told her that I was there with another lady. But you are right. I got too comfortable and didn't cover my tracks.

ShooBree
03-02-20, 12:22
Let's start with an apology to Balboa. You're correct, my comments about Pence and Trump were political and not helpful. It doesn't help anyone and should have been left out.

Which brings us here.

I'm a BHL. Probably. Almost certainly by your definition. Before I was a staunch conservative. Who knows what I'll be in another 20 years. I don't care if you think I should support your political views. The total number of people who hold my political views is 1. Me.

He didn't spoil his story by bringing up politics. He spoiled his story by trying to rationalize a series of ridiculous mistakes on his part. He didn't even bring up politics. He simply mentioned the current political divide which exists within the US. Read your post and try to tell me it doesn't exist.

It exists. If you want to debate politics with me you'll resort to ad hominem attacks and leave screaming obscenities. I've seen it too many times. Why you or anyone would want to debate politics with me or any other monger is a mystery to me, but some guys are like that.

This is about pussy, finding, getting and enjoying, all without overpaying. I hate to break it to you, but most of these girls lean way left politically. You're literally funding a bunch of bleeding heart liberal feminists, while violating a core principle of the conservatives. Family values. All in a country with a lot more in common with Cuba than the US..I find your post rather amusing considering the number of times you write that politics is uninteresting but still you write about it. To me it seems more that you don't want your political opponents to voice their opinions while you keep going on and on regarding things that's not about "pussy".

The mystery to me is that it's a mystery to you why anyone would want to debate politics as at the same time you are arguing with him.

You claim that most WG: s are leaning way left, I would love to see your source. I would say that most WG: s are leaning right. I don't think that you really understand what it means to belong to the politically right wing.

JjBee62
03-02-20, 17:43
I find your post rather amusing considering the number of times you write that politics is uninteresting but still you write about it. To me it seems more that you don't want your political opponents to voice their opinions while you keep going on and on regarding things that's not about "pussy".

The mystery to me is that it's a mystery to you why anyone would want to debate politics as at the same time you are arguing with him.

You claim that most WG: s are leaning way left, I would love to see your source. I would say that most WG: s are leaning right. I don't think that you really understand what it means to belong to the politically right wing.Apparently what it means to belong to the political right wing is to have poor reading comprehension, although I'm sure there's more to it. As evidence, note that not once did I write, or insinuate that politics is uninteresting. I repeatedly wrote that this board is not the place to argue politics. Do you understand the difference? Do I need to elaborate on why this board is not the place to argue politics?

I have no political opponents. I'm not running for political office, I don't currently hold a political office and I have no plans to ever run for political office. While I do often write about things that aren't about pussy, I do make an effort to write about subjects useful for people who go to Colombia looking for pussy. I encourage everyone, whether right wing, left wing, centrist or apolitical to write about:

A. Pussy.

B. Places and methods to get pussy.

C. Staying safe while getting pussy.

D. Anything else related to getting pussy.

I discourage writing about:

A. Politics.

B. Religion.

C. Bad advice (other than to correct other's bad advice).

The mystery to you should be the meaning of your "mystery to me" sentence. Google Translate failed you. I'll try to clear it up for you. The mystery to me is why anyone would want to debate politics on this board, or why anyone would travel to Colombia to debate politics. Note, this doesn't preclude debating politics. I'll happily debate politics with you, in the appropriate venue. I enjoy it. It's a source of wonder and amazement to me. Then afterwards you can cuss, call me names and make non-specific threats.

You can educate me on what it means to belong to the political right wing via PM. Or do you still fail to grasp that a board dedicated to finding and fucking working girls isn't the place for politics?

Balboa
03-02-20, 18:38
Let's start with an apology to Balboa. You're correct, my comments about Pence and Trump were political and not helpful. It doesn't help anyone and should have been left out.

.Right on brotha!

We're good! Rarely see a guy apologize these days, though none was needed, that's a sign of character there.

As life goes on, I care more and more about enjoying it than getting lost in the BS that gets tossed at us every day.

I'm thankful that I discovered S. America at a fairly young age and have been cruising thru it for years now!

Keep on truck'n, I enjoy your posts!

John Gault
03-02-20, 22:25
For a guy who didn't want to talk about politics you just did nine paragraphs on it.

Thank god I only wrote a few sentences.

All in all I do agree that politics suck, and don't belong here. I will not make that mistake again.

Septimius
03-02-20, 22:57
For a guy who didn't want to talk about politics you just did nine paragraphs on it.

Thank god I only wrote a few sentences.

All in all I do agree that politics suck, and don't belong here. I will not make that mistake again.It's better than it being on the Medellin Reports thread though. Sometimes folks will start going back and forth on the Medellin Reports thread about dumb shit that has nothing to do with anything related to this site. It makes it hard to go back and try to find valuable info. Especially when you're a newbie and want to read back about 20 plus pages.

LeyenLouvain
03-03-20, 18:01
It's better than it being on the Medellin Reports thread though. Sometimes folks will start going back and forth on the Medellin Reports thread about dumb shit that has nothing to do with anything related to this site. It makes it hard to go back and try to find valuable info. Especially when you're a newbie and want to read back about 20 plus pages.It is sometimes hard to find the valuable info, but there is lots of it in there.

Much better that people are posting a lot (albeit not all relevant) than other cities where no-one posts anything for a year!

El Bacano
03-13-20, 08:59
There was a recent report that was so long it put me to sleep 5 times. Gentlemen get to the point unless your giving out some use full information, we don't need every detail you probly made up, we are here for info and interest not a long drawn out tell all about your every second you were here. If you want get a publisher, go ahead. But please don't bore us to sleep.

D Cups
03-13-20, 13:30
There was a recent report that was so long it put me to sleep 5 times. Gentlemen get to the point unless your giving out some use full information, we don't need every detail you probly made up, we are here for info and interest not a long drawn out tell all about your every second you were here. If you want get a publisher, go ahead. But please don't bore us to sleep.Agreed but no one is forcing you to read them. I just ignore. Same with the numb nuts in the PI forum who live there and do nothing but bad mouth the PI. I mean, geez, did someone put a gun to your head and force you to live there?

SJobs
03-13-20, 15:30
There was a recent report that was so long it put me to sleep 5 times. Gentlemen get to the point unless your giving out some use full information, we don't need every detail you probly made up, we are here for info and interest not a long drawn out tell all about your every second you were here. If you want get a publisher, go ahead. But please don't bore us to sleep.Would it be easier to just skip the reports that don't interest you. Coming back and forth to read it across 5 sleeping cycles is the best indication that those reports have value.

JjBee62
03-13-20, 17:28
There was a recent report that was so long it put me to sleep 5 times. Gentlemen get to the point unless your giving out some use full information, we don't need every detail you probly made up, we are here for info and interest not a long drawn out tell all about your every second you were here. If you want get a publisher, go ahead. But please don't bore us to sleep.Could you go ahead and post the mandatory posting standards, so we can all conform to please you? Also a copy of the letter confirming your position as the chief content control officer would be helpful.

Some guys want more detailed reports. Some want the bare bones. Some want the full x-rated play by play. If a report is longer than you are able to read, skip it. If a report has details you don't care about, skip it. If you don't believe a report, skip it.

Are you sensing a theme here? Rather than complain everyone isn't doing things the way you want, just move along to the things that you can handle.

I'd rather read through a novel than a bunch of complaints that people are posting too much.

El Bacano
03-13-20, 19:55
I was obviously joking and the report was very Interesting. I will add the new Facebook route to my repertoire and hopefully my reports it can be as long and interesting as his.

JjBee62
03-24-20, 22:46
I will say you're dependable.


And you're distinctly rambling before you're done. Still a fun read though.

The figures are likely inflated as was determined here in conversations back in the day when you failed to demonstrate any independent proofs. Regardless you rented a room from the girl, ran her camera for a year and left town with no money as you so confirmed. If there was any big money it certainly didn't trickle down in any shape or form.After all this time you still can't get it right. I'll get to that shortly.

What independent proof would you like? Shall I post her bank statements? Or just access her webcam account and screenshot her payout history? If you bothered to do a bit of research, you might be able to find info about one webcam site's big mistake. Myfreecams has a monthly contest for the top earners. There's a list on the site showing the current rankings. A few years ago (2016) someone messed up. Instead of just showing the model name and ranking, it also showed the current number of tokens. Number 250 on the list, in less than 15 days, had earned 122,594 tokens. Number 1 had earned 1,772,486 tokens. Tokens are redeemed at 20 per dollar. That comes out to about $6,150 for #250 and $88,600 for #1, now multiply by 2 to get an idea of monthly earnings.

https://juanbustos.com/secreto-top-mfc-revelado-por-error/

If that's not sufficient for you, go into any popular webcam model's room and keep track of the tips. You won't see offline tips, you won't see things like purchase of content, onlyfans subscriptions or fan club subscriptions, but you'll get a basic idea.

The fantasy that it was "determined" to be inflated by someone with no idea about the industry is silly.

"Regardless, you rented a room. ".

I'm sure I explained the situation in great detail, more than once, 2 years ago. I did not rent a room from her. Both her and I lived in the apartment rent free. We paid utilities and I paid for the internet. I never "ran her camera. " If you knew anything about the subject, you would know that nobody runs the camera for most webcam models. I didn't work with her, other than helping with setup and tear down. None of that was required, but if I wasn't busy I was always happy to help. I didn't even work with her for a year. I was only in the apartment for 9 months. The last 3 months were spent in a different apartment.

I did leave town with no money. Actually, left town with about $2,000 of debt, plus another financial obligation of about $1500. Part of the debt was to my ex roommate. Within 5 months all debts were paid, leaving me completely debt free and with monthly expenses roughly 70% less than when I went to Colombia.

I understand what you're trying to do. I'm supposed to feel bad because 2 years ago I was flat broke. Doesn't work though. I thoroughly enjoyed my year in Medellin. I met great people, made some good friends and had some wonderful experiences. Then I came back home. Within 16 hours of landing, I was working full-time. Within 4 weeks, I was self-sufficient and putting money in the bank. Just over 3 months ago I went back to my old, pre-Medellin, job. My old boss tried for 18 months to get me back. Finally, the offer was too good to pass up. My current income is almost 50% more than when I quit to go to Medellin, and 80% more than I was making 4 months ago. I'm doing better than ever and am reasonably happy about it.


This is an excellent point, is always a bad move to stereotype an entire nation or culture. When one does that they make themselves an easy target. Like the Colombians on our return flights to the states have visas and are often well educated and speak good English. No reason to bring the so called swimming in cash webcam girls into this as there's plenty of more reliable evidence at your fingertips.Did you simply forget that PL was complaining about girls making money online, completely unconnected with his "illiterate" comments? Seems a reasonable connection to webcam, whereas bringing up Colombians on international flights in response to a mention of "premium Snapchat" doesn't make much sense.


No need for Freud on this one as it actually gets to the heart of the simple difference between those who monger and those who don't. Those who do can push such thoughts out of their mind, and those who don't, can't. Though the discrepancy is noted and he walked right into that one. Nothing to add.


You sound angry, literally spitting here as you've finally had to respond to some valid points. As you've stated you set the price and tell them to come over. Maybe all you "want" is right down to business, everything with condom, and she beelines to the shower as soon as you pop. This may not happen every time or even most of the time, but it's going to happen a lot if you're inviting over a lot of girls you don't know. And yes, it's often seen as a sign of weakness when you fail to ask for what you want and hold the girl to the terms. That's just the name of that tune, no matter how lovable and successful a monger comes to think he is, or how badly he wants to act superior to those who wish to negotiate particulars. It's very laughable.You are the last person who should talk about people sounding angry. Do you recall your reaction to the Exito (I assumed it was Exito) incident? What about the great Venezuelan pizza debacle? And let's not forget the Scopolamine Scenario. Have you forgotten what I offered after you insulted and verbally attacked me over something I had nothing to do with? Remember? I offered to take a full day, completely at my expense, to get you away from the things that were obviously stressing you out? Have you forgotten who came looking for me on their next visit to Medellin? Don't you remember all of the PMs you sent me, along with my responses? Did I get angry? Was I verbally abusive? We both know the answers.

Not angry at all. Were my sentences incomplete? Was I straying off subject?

People who are worried about "showing weakness", in my experience, tend to be insecure over their own strength. They beat their chests, or their wives, to show they're strong. They refer to others with perjoratives, thinking it's a sign of strength. It isn't. Conversely, I have no need to pretend to superiority. What's my motto? "Your money, your dick, your business. " I don't need to act superior. Within the realm of being me, there is no one in the world who is better at it. Heck, if you can prove you're better at being me than I am, I've got $5,000 with your name on it.

I've repeatedly told guys, if something is critical to you, discuss it up front. I've also recommended adjusting your expectations. Learn how to get the most within the existing framework. Do you feel I'm superior because I tell people these things? Or am I superior because I don't consider any one item critical?

I don't know what it's like to have a girl beeline to the shower in a rush to leave. I can't recall a single instance of that happening in Medellin. I've stated many times that I don't get right down to business. I take my time. I'm in no hurry. It's just my experience, the girls seem to respond favorably.

Am I weak because I want a comfortable, relaxed passionate session, that doesn't follow some script? To me that's a strength. Let's look at the other option. Here's a short list: BBBJ, FIV, DATY, DFK, GFE MSOG.

Every one is a chance you're not going to be happy. She takes a look and says no to the DFK, which kills the GFE. You take your pants down and she wants to do CBJ. Now you have to argue to get your BBBJ and keep on her to keep her from quitting. Next, she pulls a half block to keep you from going too deep with the FIV. Either you argue some more, or accept going 1 knuckle in. Even if you get the MSOG, the session wasn't what you wanted. You've got 3 or 4 issues to be angry over.

My weak session? She shows up, we talk for a few. I let her put on some music. Maybe get her a drink. I offer to shower with her. It's fun. We dry each other off and she relaxes. There's some light kissing, some touching. No rush. I pay attention to her body language and reinforce what she seems to enjoy. I work my way down to DATY. If I've done everything right, she'll initiate DFK and then move right to BBBJ. Occasionally she'll ask if I want it without condom. I always say it doesn't matter, which usually ends up being BBBJ. Sex follows naturally. Afterwards there's no rush to leave, no run to the shower. We talk some more. After a time she might reach over and start raising my interest. Or she might drift off to sleep. Eventually, one of us will make a move to end the session. Back to the shower for more fun. There's seldom any problem because I have removed all the problem areas. Even if she doesn't give something, I've still had a decent session. Nothing to make me angry, just someone I don't want to repeat with.


Good points about inflation though the figures remain unconfirmed or unsubstantiated. Wish a monger's word on the internet amounted to "confirmation," but sadly that isn't the case so I take it all with a grain of salt for the time being. So there were Facebook girls in 2005 and they were asking the same prices as now? Guess we are stuck with the word of mongers on that one. Some independent, official sources for the rise in living expenses would be nice, as "more than doubled" over 15 years sounds rather drastic. Maybe the whole thesis holds up but it needs a lot more support.As I recently wrote, in my opinion, the Facebook scene developed from the Mansion and spread from there. If you wish to tell ColombiaLover he's lying about what he says he paid, take it up with him. Then go back through the boards and see what Mansion girls were charging at the time. Afterwards, you can apologize to ColombiaLover.

As for inflation figures, have you forgotten about Google? You can easily bring up the annual inflation figures for any country then calculate the compound interest. You don't have to take anyone's word on it. While you're at it, pull up the Colombian minimum wage and see how much it has risen. If you just look at adding the annual inflation rate, since 2005 inflation rates total about 67%. Of course that doesn't take into effect the compounding effect. Let's say we start with $100 and inflation is 5% annually, how much will the $100 price go up in 5 years? $25! No. It will go up over $27. Over 10 years, instead of $150, it will be $162.89, 15 years yields $207.89 instead of $175. Now let's use Colombia's numbers:

Since 2005, compound effect of inflation on a $100 item $192.83.

Minimum wage 2005:381,500 COP.

2020:877,803 COP.

I was slightly off. Instead of more than doubled, nearly doubled. There's a possibility rents have outstripped inflation, but there's no available evidence to support it. Whether costs increased by 90% or 110%, an unchanged wage is still stagnant.

Ultimately, you appear to be saying we need to do away with the forum entirely. Everything that gets posted is just the word of a monger. We can't believe anything that's posted because it came from a monger. Even things which can be easily verified, from multiple independent sources can't be trusted because it was a monger that pointed it out.


Carry on gentleman. You two have an interesting conversation going on. Stay safe everyone.

Mr Enternational
03-26-20, 05:13
Another major issue I have with Thailand is that the streets are full of ladyboys. LOL. And that means you have to fuck one of them? Parks are full of benches but that does not mean I have to go sit on one of them. I look at it like a mf in a costume, not like a vampire that is going to bite me and turn me into one of them. You go to Disneyworld and you see dudes dressed up like Goofy and Donald Duck and shit. You go over to wherever and you see dudes dressed up as ladies. Same thing to me. Trick or treat mf.

Besides, it is the same in Colombia. Everybody knows not to go to that one place where that church is or that street down from Yakuza because those are the transvestites. It is the same thing. They hang in particular places. They are not just next to normal women tricking you into choosing them. They are in their own little pockets.

Blakman
03-26-20, 06:01
LOL. And that means you have to fuck one of them? Parks are full of benches but that does not mean I have to go sit on one of them. I look at it like a mf in a costume, not like a vampire that is going to bite me and turn me into one of them. You go to Disneyworld and you see dudes dressed up like Goofy and Donald Duck and shit. You go over to wherever and you see dudes dressed up as ladies. Same thing to me. Trick or treat mf.

Besides, it is the same in Colombia. Everybody knows not to go to that one place where that church is or that street down from Yakuza because those are the transvestites. It is the same thing. They hang in particular places. They are not just next to normal women tricking you into choosing them. They are in their own little pockets.They just don't know pattaya is so much fun. One guy was saying something about clubs and beer bars hustling you for drinks. It's a damn business they going to take your money if you let them. Just like a chica is going to ask for 400 mil when she knows realistically she's just gone getting 150 mil. Pattaya no Asian look the the same, variety galore. Everything close distance. Only guys who have not done there review go to beach Road. Hardly anybody go there looking for chicas. Clubs free of charge. Bar hopping all night long.

SJobs
03-26-20, 06:25
Clearly you could not have been reading my post. 2 beautiful 18 year olds, try 3 blood related sisters, same mother same father. I have banged all 3 of them and I still do to this day. Not to mention the combination of mother and daughters I have banged.

We are in the land where money rules and everything goes out of the window. You just require more dinero to get the same experience that I receive at a fraction of the price. If you ever meet me, you'll be surprised at how young I look, how young I am, how well respected I am in centro and how well I handle myself when I am in Centro. I don't even have to ask for a date in Centro I show up and most of them are begging me for dates, simply because I am extra nice and well known in parque Botero! Pollo Negro is out!OK, my bucket list has just expanded to include fucking two blood related sisters and their mother and their grandma together for three days straight. One question to you, what happen if I get the grandma, the mother and the two daughters pregnant at the same time? Should we call those self-proclaimed El Centro experts for advise on how to pimp out all 4 of them? It seems like there are ample demand for pregnant chicks in Medellin.

SJobs
03-26-20, 06:31
I don't know how many times I have posted that everybody rolls different on this board.

Lots of your thoughts, and ideas, are based on your experience and personal tastes.

I have found your posts quite entertaining, and have egged you on at times, such as upping your game on the threesomes and foursomes.

However, your way of mongering, or your assumption that perhaps your way of mongering is superior or better than others is just simply wrong.Sorry if my post made you feel inferior. It is not my intention at all. Actually, just for my own education, can you please point out which part of my post conveyed a sense of superiority. If you can show me where I hurt your feelings, I will avoid overstepping in the future.

Surfer500
03-26-20, 16:38
Sorry if my post made you feel inferior. It is not my intention at all. Actually, just for my own education, can you please point out which part of my post conveyed a sense of superiority. If you can show me where I hurt your feelings, I will avoid overstepping in the future.I'm in tears and have been crying profusely over this.

I am a total loser and inferior, an outcast, please forgive me.

I need to give up my ways as a low level bottom feeding scavenger trolling for zombies!

Surfer500
03-26-20, 16:49
Besides, it is the same in Colombia. Everybody knows not to go to that one place where that church is or that street down from Yakuza because those are the transvestites. It is the same thing. They hang in particular places. They are not just next to normal women tricking you into choosing them. They are in their own little pockets.Mr. E you sound like a She-male aficionado knowing where to find them, are you coming out of the closet?

Surfer500
03-26-20, 16:55
One major difference is that in Medellin I can easily find girls hotter than the ladyboys. But in Thailand, the absolutely hottest looking person is always a ladyboy.Your post as written might imply that you are a switch hitter, meaning regardless of whether it's a man or a woman, you would go with whatever looks the hottest.

But I know that was not what you meant.

SJobs
03-27-20, 10:19
Your post as written might imply that you are a switch hitter, meaning regardless of whether it's a man or a woman, you would go with whatever looks the hottest.

But I know that was not what you meant.Imagine the disappointment and sorrow I felt when I found out the hottest thing on the street is a guy. Man, it's like punching Darwin in the face. In Medellin, things are different, even a brainless dumb fuck like me can tell that the people stand in the path that connects plaza botero to Calle 52, along the side of the church, are ladyboys; the girls in gusto are infinitely hotter than them, nature is well balanced in Medellin.

LeyenLouvain
03-27-20, 14:21
But in Thailand, the absolutely hottest looking person is always a ladyboy.Wait what? If that's true, it must be due to facial plastic surgery rather than make-up?

TjBrazil
03-27-20, 14:48
Your post as written might imply that you are a switch hitter, meaning regardless of whether it's a man or a woman, you would go with whatever looks the hottest.

But I know that was not what you meant.I used to work with this flaming gay guy and we would tell him he was prettier than the waitresses. We were all 100 percent hetero. It's more of a joke that they go so much out of their way to look good. I still think in person I would be able to tell a ladyboy in Thailand. On you tube it's a little tougher.

Mr Enternational
03-27-20, 14:59
Wait what? If that's true, it must be due to facial plastic surgery rather than make-up?Nah. It just depends on whether you like your chicks looking like dudes with makeup on or not.

Mr Enternational
03-27-20, 15:02
Mr. E you sound like a She-male aficionado knowing where to find them, are you coming out of the closet?LOL. Nah. More like I just know where to stay away from.

LeyenLouvain
03-27-20, 15:13
Nah. It just depends on whether you like your chicks looking like dudes with makeup on or not.Tata Zaa is very convincing!

Surfer500
03-27-20, 16:42
Imagine the disappointment and sorrow I felt when I found out the hottest thing on the street is a guy. Man, it's like punching Darwin in the face. In Medellin, things are different, even a brainless dumb fuck like me can tell that the people stand in the path that connects plaza botero to Calle 52, along the side of the church, are ladyboys; the girls in gusto are infinitely hotter than them, nature is well balanced in Medellin.Yep, the Colombian She-Males are such an abortion compared to their Thailand counterparts. For your information, and I know this is important to you, the Colombian She-male headquarters is located exactly at the corner of the Veracruz Church and the glass covered pedestrian walkway, not at Calle 52. This is where all directives and commands of the Colombian She-male community take place for this part of town. There are also other similar venues around town as well.

The others you see walking around at the Intersection of Calle 52 and Carrea 52, this is where you will find the "imported 'Venezuelan She-males. They stay away from the Colombian She-males to avoid a turf war. And a warning about the Colombian She-Males, they are very bad dudes, carry knives, and you should keep your distance. The last thing you want to do is it cornered by them, once they sodomize you, they will carve you up and leave you to rot. Stick to Gustos, all you can do is get hosed for money there.

Septimius
03-30-20, 00:55
Your post as written might imply that you are a switch hitter, meaning regardless of whether it's a man or a woman, you would go with whatever looks the hottest.

But I know that was not what you meant.I wonder if someone on this board is a switch hitter and embarrassed to admit it. Truth be told I have seen a few that I'd probably hit. So I guess that makes me a switch hitter that hasn't pulled the trigger yet. That is the key word right there, YET. When it happens I'll post the report if anyone is interested. Don't knock it until you try it folks.

Surfer500
03-30-20, 01:33
I wonder if someone on this board is a switch hitter and embarrassed to admit it. Truth be told I have seen a few that I'd probably hit. So I guess that makes me a switch hitter that hasn't pulled the trigger yet. That is the key word right there, YET. When it happens I'll post the report if anyone is interested. Don't knock it until you try it folks.A switch hitter in the sense that you went up to the plate, and struck out. So if you didn't get a hit and get on base you don't qualify as switch hitter, YET.

And if I were to be "switch hitter, it sure wouldn't be in Colombia. It would be Thailand for sure as they it have it down to a science and I have heard stories where guys don't even know. God forbid, maybe I went with one last time I was there and didn't even know it. I guess I am a switch hitter now.

SJobs
03-30-20, 05:22
I wonder if someone on this board is a switch hitter and embarrassed to admit it. Truth be told I have seen a few that I'd probably hit. So I guess that makes me a switch hitter that hasn't pulled the trigger yet. That is the key word right there, YET. When it happens I'll post the report if anyone is interested. Don't knock it until you try it folks.A beautiful thing is a beautiful thing. I don't judge people's choice and taste. I mentally and physically can't handle the thought that she / he use to be a man, and once had a cock. I think there is nothing to be ashamed of if a person is into transsexuals, it's a personal choice, who are we to judge.

Mr Enternational
03-30-20, 05:53
I wonder if someone on this board is a switch hitter and embarrassed to admit it. Truth be told I have seen a few that I'd probably hit. So I guess that makes me a switch hitter that hasn't pulled the trigger yet. That is the key word right there, YET. When it happens I'll post the report if anyone is interested. Don't knock it until you try it folks.LOL. Plenty of people have admitted it. I will decline your offer though. I do not have any desire to fuck any dudes with makeup and long hair. But if that is your thing then have at it and we can still have a drink together afterwards. On this board it is against the rules to post stories as such. You can only post info that will help others identify and avoid them.

LeyenLouvain
03-30-20, 13:26
Don't knock it until you try it folks.Why try it in Colombia when the women are so amazing?! Not to mention the knives that are apparently carried.

JjBee62
03-30-20, 15:06
I wonder if someone on this board is a switch hitter and embarrassed to admit it. Truth be told I have seen a few that I'd probably hit. So I guess that makes me a switch hitter that hasn't pulled the trigger yet. That is the key word right there, YET. When it happens I'll post the report if anyone is interested. Don't knock it until you try it folks.I'm not going to try it. If there's a dick down there, there's no vagina. If there's no vagina I have no interest. I have no interest in anal, especially not as the catcher, and I'm not satisfied with just a blowjob. I'm also not willing to learn how to give a blowjob, especially if I have to pay for the lesson.

I do remember seeing a guy come in a bar in Medellin, a gringo I'd met briefly. He had a super hot girl with him and an obviously gay guy. I didn't think anything of it until I saw him making out with the guy. I guess some people prefer the other threesome combination.

Surfer500
03-30-20, 16:15
Why try it in Colombia when the women are so amazing?! Not to mention the knives that are apparently carried.The She-Males are for those that like the back door and apparently they have quite a following or wouldn't be out there plying their trade. And yes they carry knives, and stay clear of them as they can be very aggressive. A friend of mine a few years back got confronted by three of them as they were baiting him to go with one of them, and when he refused they took his glasses and smashed the.

Septimius
03-30-20, 16:34
LOL. Plenty of people have admitted it. I will decline your offer though. I do not have any desire to fuck any dudes with makeup and long hair. But if that is your thing then have at it and we can still have a drink together afterwards. On this board it is against the rules to post stories as such. You can only post info that will help others identify and avoid them.LOL fair enough. I remember one time a buddy of mine had a "Filipina chick" that already had the surgery. I saw her myself and man she had all of us fooled. Pretty face and shaped like a woman. He said her insides felt differently obviously due to the anatomical differences. He enjoyed himself but was a little disappointed when he found out later on she used to be a dude. He handled it well. Some dudes would have totally lost it and probably would have went after the girl. I say if it makes you feel good then fuck it LOL.

Surfer500
03-30-20, 17:12
LOL fair enough. I remember one time a buddy of mine had a "Filipina chick" that already had the surgery. I saw her myself and man she had all of us fooled. Pretty face and shaped like a woman. He said her insides felt differently obviously due to the anatomical differences. He enjoyed himself but was a little disappointed when he found out later on she used to be a dude. He handled it well. Some dudes would have totally lost it and probably would have went after the girl. I say if it makes you feel good then fuck it LOL.Her insides felt different. Hum what does that mean, tight like a drum, or this "thing" opened up like a house when he penetrated it, with his pecker banging against the sides with no friction. What a topic of discussion.

Mr Enternational
03-30-20, 19:47
I remember one time a buddy of mine had a "Filipina chick" that already had the surgery. I saw her myself and man she had all of us fooled. Pretty face and shaped like a woman. He said her insides felt differently obviously due to the anatomical differences.Obviously he did not look before he lept. Neither did he feel for wetness. I just don't get it. But wait a minute. If he knew the inside felt different he had to know it was not a real pussy. Jezus Khrist.

Surfer500
03-30-20, 20:32
Obviously he did not look before he lept. Neither did he feel for wetness. I just don't get it. But wait a minute. If he knew the inside felt different he had to know it was not a real pussy. Jezus Khrist.Hell he should of just bought a warm cantaloupe, hollowed out a slit in it, and banged the melon, at least it would of been warm and wet. This whole thought of banging an imitation pussy takes us to new heights here.

Septimius
03-30-20, 23:21
Obviously he did not look before he lept. Neither did he feel for wetness. I just don't get it. But wait a minute. If he knew the inside felt different he had to know it was not a real pussy. Jezus Khrist.He could have known all along and maybe went with it? Fuck man who knows what really happened that night. I only know what he told me. Drunken sailors always get into some shit especially us guys that were stationed in Japan. The days of Thailand and Singapore were some of the best times of my life.