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Massimo Potente
04-15-18, 16:32
I hope the admin doesn't mind but I thought that since the interest in the Italian-focused clubs in Villach and close to the border to Italy are attracting a lot of posts, it makes sense to open this additional thread so that the Vienna thread stays clean of reviews and discussions of clubs that are almost 400 kms away from our capital.

Please post all your experiences and questions concerning.

FKK Wellcum.

FKK Andiamo.

FKK Marina (Slovenia but what the heck, it's close).

Babylon Klagenfurt.

FKK Römerbad.

And many others in this thread. Knock yourselves out!

Dubner32
06-04-18, 07:58
I agree with MP. The group of clubs around Villach / Klagenfurt justify splitting out from the Other Areas (all Austria) Thread.

D.

Dubner32
06-04-18, 08:01
First visit two Andiamo in 2 years. Club in good condition, multiple sauna wellness, inside pool, outside area with pool, restaurant doing food to meal schedule with items to order, 2 beers included in entry. About 25 girls, 6 -8's, mostly Ro. Entry 60 (May promotion), standard 70 E /30 min.

Tina: Pale skined Venezuelan (Slim hard body. Fine BBBJ, multiple postitions, sweet pussy, suggested try prostate massage. Went for it. Didn't float my boat, cowgirl finish. Good service, mild upsell throughout. 1 HR; E140 + 50. Probably not repeat.

Ramona: Slim blonde Ro. Late twenties (says started job late after failed relationship. Very nice natural boobs. Good service, good rapport. 1 HR; E140. Would repeat.

Was a warm day, about 5 girls were playing naked round the outside pool. Very nice.

Overall: Andiamo is in a good state and the only FKK within sensible distance for me. On balance, still prefer Wellcum but will check Andi from time to time.

Dubner32
06-04-18, 08:06
Late last year there was newspaper and internet comment about a new club at Villach, La Vita, supposedly opening this summer.

Absolutely no activity on the rough ground that, I understand, was the intended site so I infer that the La Vita idea is probably La Morte.

D.

Dubner32
06-04-18, 08:38
Good to be back at Wellcum after a while. All facilities in usual good condition. Nice to see that the management have been spending on new outside furniture all around the pool; my preference would have been improving the couches in the Ruheraum but spending is a good sign of confidence in the business. Was my lucky day; the food was outstanding. I changed my dinner plan and bought some wine to go with it.

Usual high standard LU. Spent some time doing the 'Where do I know you from' with one girl, now Bianca, ex-Barbara YY about 2 years ago.

New for me:

Lavinia. Ro. Petite but big features (IYKWIM), 28, mane of bonde hair, silicone. Nice chat, warm open smile, then real woman in room. Eager intense BBBJ, sensuous DFK, great in multiple positions. 1 HR, E140, no upsell. Would repeat.

Andreea. Ro. Small (1.55) but slightly bigger built, dark hair, be / see natural boobs. Andreea would not have been my choice but we got chatting and felt good and took a room. I got the surprise of my mongering life (in a good way) which has caused me to question my whole concept of BJ (see my next post). Top GFE, languorous DFK. 1 HR, E140. Would repeat. And did a few hours later. + 1:30, E210 + tip.

Dubner32
06-04-18, 09:16
I asked myself whether I should share my recent experience with Andreea at Wellcum (ex Marina) with you. She has caused me to question my whole life BJ experience. I have decided to share; read on if you are willing to waste a few minutes on BJ technique and philosophy.

My background: Married twice, about 10 'serious' girlfriends, 3 years mongering. So BJs from about 100 different women.

I went to this room with 'normal' expectations. Andreea's technique is full on kissing then down to BJ. She does tasty all around licking and then dives (no other word for it) down all the way applying sensuous lip / mouth pressure to every part. I am not so large but was firmly taken into her throat at the base of each stroke (effectively f**king her throat). Here she pauses and proceeds to slip her tongue out and flick it all around. She continues this at different pressures and speeds with a ready smile, eye contact and occasional pauses to clear her mouth. She put me in into some kind of joyful 'shock' I have never experienced before.

I call a pause and we chat about all this and I decide to experiment. I am particularly sensitive along the inner upper thigh and where the thighs join the crotch. I ask her to use her hands to finger this area while she's 'blowing'.

No problem! She gets a motion going that reminded me of the pistons of a steam railway engine. She's rocking her hands back and forwards into my creases in time with her head going all the way down and up like before. Superb!

But then I feel her natural breasts are softly teasing my inner thighs as she moves. We talk some more, she gets out some oil and oils her breasts. Off we go again. I am now close to stimulation overload. She is using lips / mouth on the shaft, tongue around the balls, throat on the head, hands around the scrotum / creases and tits on my thighs.

This is, without question, the best BJ of my life.

If you visit Andreea, please be gentle and repectful of her; she's precious to me. And, of course, sadly for you, YMMV.

I'm thinking that every previous BJ was a missed opportunity. But thank the fates she's educated me.

D.

Dubner32
06-10-18, 11:21
On a recent visit girls were talking about a guy who had booked into the connected hotel (and club) for 40 days straight. Yes, 40. He was often working his phone (discreetly) for several hours a day and taking one 30 minute room with a different girl each day.

So, an author? Connected business man? Witness protection?

Daily costs, room 80, entrance 80, Girl 70. E230 per day (maybe negotiated a better club / hotel rate). So, bed and food covered, no clothes washing, 2 beers, daily sex. No other costs.

If you were looking for some 'downtime' its not a bad choice. Could even be true!

D.

Pistons
06-10-18, 17:37
Or if you got 10 million dollars or more, why the heck not?

Peter Den
07-08-18, 13:34
Just wondering if anyone has been to Laufhaus Villach. How was it? What is the cost? Any info is appreciated. Thanks!

Zumboit
07-09-18, 12:54
On a recent visit girls were talking about a guy who had booked into the connected hotel (and club) for 40 days straight. Yes, 40. He was often working his phone (discreetly) for several hours a day and taking one 30 minute room with a different girl each day.

Daily costs, room 80, entrance 80, Girl 70. E230 per day (maybe negotiated a better club / hotel rate).


D.There is an offer of combined club plus hotel, Sunday through Wednesday for 115 or 120€.

Derk
08-04-18, 06:31
I asked myself whether I should share my recent experience with Andreea at Wellcum (ex Marina) with you. She has caused me to question my whole life BJ experience. I have decided to share; read on if you are willing to waste a few minutes on BJ technique and philosophy.

My background: Married twice, about 10 'serious' girlfriends, 3 years mongering. So BJs from about 100 different women.

I went to this room with 'normal' expectations. Andreea's technique is full on kissing then down to BJ. She does tasty all around licking and then dives (no other word for it) down all the way applying sensuous lip / mouth pressure to every part. I am not so large but was firmly taken into her throat at the base of each stroke (effectively f**king her throat). Here she pauses and proceeds to slip her tongue out and flick it all around. She continues this at different pressures and speeds with a ready smile, eye contact and occasional pauses to clear her mouth. She put me in into some kind of joyful 'shock' I have never experienced before.

I call a pause and we chat about all this and I decide to experiment. I am particularly sensitive along the inner upper thigh and where the thighs join the crotch. I ask her to use her hands to finger this area while she's 'blowing'..While I totally understand what you're saying after so many years in this hobby and thousands (over 2 decades of FKK Club Visits) girls I've come to the conclusion when guys talk about good deep BJ's you have to find out the size of the guy who claims it's so good. Small guys with 4"-5" peckers almost always get better service because there is less Real Estate while the gents with longer or thicker sticks get less. While I'm not saying you're small from the guys I've shared with usually their on the small side.

Sorry most of my experience is in Germany. Having said that there are very few women who actually know how to handle a stick, less show real oral skill, there are real deep throat queens like the legendary "Viagra" the Brazilian from Altenstadt Atlantis days, last she was at Mainhatten FRA. That woman could take 9 inches down like it was nothing. But besides depth yes there is technique. Alice at Aldi Dietzenbach was also very talented (no longer working) Thanks again for sharing.

Allector
08-25-18, 14:04
Fellow mongers,

Went to Wellcum club last Saturday. I'm familiar with the German FKK scene and this place was rather similar. It was a pretty good experience.

Pros:

Good looking girls.

Nice facility.

Showers in the rooms.

Good food.

Two free beers.

Cons:

A little more expensive.

Crowded after 2100. (Typical for any FKK on a Saturday).

Girls are more greedy.

Allector.

P.S. This is a silly name for an FKK club.

Sebastiane
05-11-19, 21:25
I am thinking of trying both these clubs on successive days. Is that possible / doable?

Also what's the rate per hour in Babylon Klagenfurt these days?

For Wellcum is it 60/30 or 70/30 and does that include BBBJ and kissing?

Vicky98
04-15-20, 07:14
I asked myself whether I should share my recent experience with Andreea at Wellcum (ex Marina) with you. She has caused me to question my whole life BJ experience. I have decided to share; read on if you are willing to waste a few minutes on BJ technique and philosophy.

My background: Married twice, about 10 'serious' girlfriends, 3 years mongering. So BJs from about 100 different women.

I went to this room with 'normal' expectations. Andreea's technique is full on kissing then down to BJ. She does tasty all around licking and then dives (no other word for it) down all the way applying sensuous lip / mouth pressure to every part. I am not so large but was firmly taken into her throat at the base of each stroke (effectively f**king her throat). Here she pauses and proceeds to slip her tongue out and flick it all around. She continues this at different pressures and speeds with a ready smile, eye contact and occasional pauses to clear her mouth. She put me in into some kind of joyful 'shock' I have never experienced before.A very interesting post to read about BJ. Do you think using a delay spray or climax spray enhances the pleasure in a BJ?

Dubner32
04-15-20, 13:17
Sorry. Never tried it. Many years ago, delay would be welcome. Now I have the opposite issue. Some girls take offence that I don't finish.

Eryk9021
07-25-21, 21:29
Entry 69 euro, included in price are 3 alcoholic drinks.

Estimated number of girls: less than 10.

Almost no other guests (only 3 other cars on parking).

Big locker room with 200 lockers, with magnetic locks. However pretty dark here, so you cannot see exactly what's inside of your locker (sic! - has no one thought about that?

Club is pretty spacious, and given small number of girls, it makes impression of desolated.

Pretty decent garden, with a pool. Food was pretty good, with salads, deserts and fruits (however in GT Linz or Wellcum food is better).

In the main social room, at the bar, football game was on a display, however quality was sooo jerky that I was unable to watch it!

All girls were wearing some lingerie (ie. Not fully naked). Few of them talked to me, but I was not interested.

Only Sascha was interesting enough to session with. She worked in Germany before (World, LR). Young, 23 years old Romanian, pretty face, smooth skin, black hair.

I paid 80 euro (70 + EL, but she also rejected kissing, that normally I would expect to be included, supposedly because of corona, riiiiiiight. . .)

It was a good session, I had a satisfaction.

Club has good looking rooms with mirrors on the walls, including showers, and I liked them better than those in Wellcum. And supposedly during corona-pause they were renovated.

Final conclusion: having lively Wellcum just 15 minutes away by car, I cannot see many reasons to be here.

Christian G
07-26-21, 08:46
I paid 80 euro (70 + EL, but she also rejected kissing, that normally I would expect to be included, supposedly because of corona, riiiiiiight. . .)
What is EL?

Eryk9021
07-26-21, 16:53
What is EL?Eierlecken (German) = licking balls.

Sirioja
07-26-21, 18:57
Entry 69 euro, included in price are 3 alcoholic drinks.

Estimated number of girls: less than 10.

Almost no other guests (only 3 other cars on parking).

Big locker room with 200 lockers, with magnetic locks. However pretty dark here, so you cannot see exactly what's inside of your locker (sic! - has no one thought about that?

Club is pretty spacious, and given small number of girls, it makes impression of desolated.

Pretty decent garden, with a pool. Food was pretty good, with salads, deserts and fruits (however in GT Linz or Wellcum food is better).Not sure a Tuesday visit is best the judge a club. When I want to discover a club, I go on best casting days, usually Friday or Saturday. Had good times at Andiamo which can compete for me with Wellcum where quantity, when I prefer quality.

Shark16
09-12-21, 12:46
Esteemed member of the Austrian part of ISG, Massimo Potente, recently said Wellcum probably had the best line-up among the FKK clubs in Austria right now. That statement has certainly raised some interest, and having recently visited I can assure the line-up was fantastic with plenty of good choices. Thanks Massimo! This club deserves a good logistics report.


Logistics of getting to this club is probably one of the worst things I've ever seen out there. The best option to me seems flying to Ljubljana and renting a car. And you'll still be left with the question of what else to do besides this club when you get there.Totally agree. The lack of an international airport in the neighbourhood is an obvious drawback for this club from an international perspective (Villach / Arnoldstein is is no Berlin, Frankfurt nor Vienna). Will the travel be worth it? This club is located close to the Italian border with mostly Italian guests. IMHO the Italians are lucky. If coming from Italy I would not go any further. The club is that good. If landing in Vienna, the decision is more difficult to make and depends on a number of variables (how deep is your pocket, how much time do you wish to spend on travel and the hobby, service demands, demands for things to do outside the club, and more). I will discuss this further in a later report.


From my post and visit 2019. "I took a train from Venice to Villach, and another local from Villach to Arnoldstein. From there it was a 10 taxi to the club. There are also direct trains a few times a day from Udine direct to Arnoldstein, though being slow trains, its about the same as to which route is faster."Good advice. Villach has a train station which makes travel from Vienna, Linz, Salzburg, Klagenfurt, or from cities in Italy like Venice, and Udine, or Munich in Germany, fairly easy and comfortable. If you have the time to spend.

Once at Villach train station the travel is quite easy by regional train S4 to Arnoldstein. It takes around 20 mnts with departure once an hour from 6 am to 1 am (google for more details). From Arnoldstein just a 10 E cab (or a 40 mnts walk for the happy hiker).


I think Wellcum have an agreement with a taxi company (red cars) with a fixed rate Villach-Wellcum for 30 euro.Thanks to Christian for this advice, which I already have taken advantage of.

I asked several of the taxi drivers at the Villach train station for quotes to Wellcum, and they all quoted 50- 60 euro one way, so a roundtrip adds up quite a bit for the budgetminded. The red taxis were nowhere to be seen, but with Christian's advice in mind I had done my homework:

You need to call the taxi company in advance to get the best price, and they will pick you up and take you to Wellcum for 30 E. The name of the taxi company is Express Taxi: tlph# +43 664 9465303/+43 664 1986777. Website: www.expesstaxi.at (not working at the moment).

But seriously, I would think most of us would rent a car for a visit to Wellcum. It makes things so much easier.

The drinkers among us should stay at Wellcum's own hotel facilities with direct access to the club. It is reasonably priced and decent (I had a sneak peak). You are also allowed to invite girls to your room.

BegaBega
06-27-22, 19:40
Hello,

For 15 years I have frequented date houses and FKK in Germany until the condom BJ law. I like full naked young girls (18-26 years) with small boobs and hopefully pierced nipples and pussy, BJ and swallowing. Then for 3 years I moved to Switzerland but now Is top expensive.

I don't like FKK with aggressive girls (that bring my arms and my balls to go), but If are there the girls I say above I could go in the Big FKK in Osterreich (Wellcum or Andiamo) or moved to Vienna.

I accept suggestions.

Thank you in advance.

James 006
08-11-22, 22:41
This afternoon, my friend and I experienced one of the strangest things we've seen in a FKK.

One of the guests tried to escape from one of the hunting girls. She didn't give up and went after him. The guest went to another end of the bar area and signaled that he wanted to be alone.

But this girl did not give up and came across with a fierce temper. She was going to teach him not to reject a Princess like her.

The guest was not comfortable with the situation, he did not want to speak with this girl and signed it with a finger in front of his mouth. The girl then exploded, run at him and hit him in the head several times. The guest had some water in his glass and sent a few drops of cold shower back as a reflex. I would probably do the same.

Me and my buddy saw it all. The guest went to the administrator, with the angry girl close behind.

Finally some action in an otherwise boring club, LOL.

We followed in the changing room and from there heard the guest explain to the administrator that he was not interested in this girl and he only asked that this girl would stay away from him. BTW there was not many other guys to hang on to. The guest said he had returned some water as a reflex when he received several blows to his head. However, he regretted this.

The gorilla at the front desk said they had never had any problems with this girl (maybe she was his girlfriend? But the aggressiveness proved otherwise so we could smell trouble a long way.

The guest was obviously not approved by the administration. The girls in this club were apparently flawless and could do as they like.

We exchanged a few supportive words with the guest before we went back to the bar and started a conversation with him about other sauna clubs. He had a good overview.

But in the meantime, alliances were made and an obvious lie was presented to the gorilla.

After 5 minutes, the gorilla came to the bar and picked up the guest, bent his arm behind his back and shouted that he had 2 minutes to get out. If he wanted to fight with the girls, he could rather fight with him who was a professional fighter, he shouted. The guest followed without resistance.

The gorilla had the performance of his life and came across as a real hero. But it was all based on a lie. The guest had only marked with a little water after being treated very unfairly.

One of the girls had old th gorilla that the guest had been physical with her, but this was not true, We were there the whole time.

The gorilla was shown to be the girls' real protector regardless of what is true. But this way $$$ will be spent other places. So who protect who? With so few good looking girls and little guests, the gorilla soon will look for another work.

We saw it all and the guest seemed both well-mannered and polite, but obviously did not like being chased by worn-out girls.

Such a show of power without root in reality says something about the culture of this club. And how tightly knit the environment is.

We were at Wellcum yesterday and had a very good time. Lots of beautiful girls. Many men, but also more girls than we have ever seen in a sauna club. It is probably true that they have the best line-up now. At Andiamo Men's Club today, there weren't really any girls that we liked. The girls had seen better days and were very aggressive. Almost no guests.

We didn't dare to interfere, but left the club soon after this dram without going to the room with any girls.

Good food, nice premises, good swimming pool, but the girls are unfortunately not up to our preferred level. Most of this girls we would not even pick up for free. In relation to Wellcum, the level is not comparable. Everything is significantly better at Wellcum.

Such a gorilla and management supporting lying girls and throwing guests out like this says a lot about this club. We will not be back. But for those of you who don't mind sitting and chatting with aggressive girls who don't want to be contradicted, you have found your club.

Akibono
08-12-22, 06:53
While I totally understand what you're saying after so many years in this hobby and thousands (over 2 decades of FKK Club Visits) girls I've come to the conclusion when guys talk about good deep BJ's you have to find out the size of the guy who claims it's so good. Small guys with 4"-5" peckers almost always get better service because there is less Real Estate while the gents with longer or thicker sticks get less. While I'm not saying you're small from the guys I've shared with usually their on the small side.

Sorry most of my experience is in Germany. Having said that there are very few women who actually know how to handle a stick, less show real oral skill, there are real deep throat queens like the legendary "Viagra" the Brazilian from Altenstadt Atlantis days, last she was at Mainhatten FRA. That woman could take 9 inches down like it was nothing. But besides depth yes there is technique. Alice at Aldi Dietzenbach was also very talented (no longer working) Thanks again for sharing.I would add the legendary Lena at Oase. She would be fully booked within 45 minutes after entering the club.

Shark16
08-28-22, 14:50
You need to call the taxi company in advance to get the best price, and they will pick you up and take you to Wellcum for 30 E. The name of the taxi company is Express Taxi: tlph# +43 664 9465303/+43 664 1986777. Website: www.expresstaxi.at Inflation is here: The red taxis are now quoting 40 E from Linz to Wellcum. Still a bargain. Taxi by the meter will easily cost 60+E.

Taxi from Arnoldstein to Wellcum is 20 E, but there are no taxis available at Arnoldstein. A 30 mnts waiting time after calling a taxi must be expected. I do not recommend.

LU at Wellcum was excellent. Sessions still available from 70 E /30 with BBBJ included. Very little upsell IME. A Wellcum visit is highly recommended.

Shark16
09-03-22, 01:39
Inflation is here: The red taxis are now quoting 40 E from Linz to Wellcum.40 E is from Villach to Wellcum of course. Sorry about the confusion.

Fuschlszg
09-10-22, 18:13
Just coming back from the "Castello" in Klagenfurt.

Line up improves really a lot with, "Baltic cluster" well represented with stunnings beauties and, more important, with the attitude and service which are expected on a club of this level. Sensual dresses well chosen by almost every girls, even sexy executive dresses can be found, good for the ones who get excited for fantasies such as co-workers or secretary.

Food quality really on top, close to "Michelin" stamp, even if we go only for this (yes we can!) is a good value for money.

"Reservations" are the big issue, affect the glamour of the experience, however makes part of the business. Used by customers with limited time who know what they want. The bests of the bests are usually reserved or have at least strong time constraints (sorry baby I would be busy.) it's simple: or you accepted as it is. Or you play the reservation game, is up to you.

Price per orgasm in an Wellc. Known. FKK sauna club 55 km nearby are really incomparable more affordable, but for the ones looking for an unforgettable experience on a unforgettable place, "Castello" is the place to be.

Just one last advice. It's really a danger for all the ones concern with the healthy of their finances visit this stratospheric cost place. Inflation (food, energy). Has also arrive to "Castello".

But the more danger is the hidden inflation due to the quality of the lineup (risk of many sessions), be cautious, limit you desires by limit your credit cards spend or you could be in serious trouble.

DonDonato
09-11-22, 11:21
Inflation is here: The red taxis are now quoting 40 E from Linz to Wellcum. Still a bargain. Taxi by the meter will easily cost 60+E.

Taxi from Arnoldstein to Wellcum is 20 E, but there are no taxis available at Arnoldstein. A 30 mnts waiting time after calling a taxi must be expected. I do not recommend.

LU at Wellcum was excellent. Sessions still available from 70 E /30 with BBBJ included. Very little upsell IME. A Wellcum visit is highly recommended.During my last visit to Wellcum I was in apartment in Arnoldstein. I made a phone call to taxi company and guy on the phone told me that taxi is coming from Villach for the price of 50 euros. After that I've decided to take a walk to club. Easy 20 minutes walk.

Shark16
09-11-22, 13:28
During my last visit to Wellcum I was in apartment in Arnoldstein. I made a phone call to taxi company and guy on the phone told me that taxi is coming from Villach for the price of 50 euros. After that I've decided to take a walk to club. Easy 20 minutes walk.Good idea to stay locally with only a short walk to the club. Again, I think the red taxis are the only one with decent pricing. Otherwise a taxi ride will quickly be expensive.

I have never tried to walk from Arnoldstein Bahnhof to the club. Google Maps stipulates the walk to be around 43 mnts. It is quite doable if the weather is nice, in broad daylight and you travel light. The area looks nice and safe. But to each their own.

An alternative is of course to call the red taxis in advance making a reservation in stead of waiting to call one when you arrive at Arnoldstein Bahnhof. Man, that train station area is boring! And zero taxis.

Personally I think will just take a red taxi from Villach next time if the price gap is only 15- 20E. I am way too horny to risk a 90 mnts detour.

How was the club in your experience? Wellcum was ROCKING on my visit last month with an excellent lineup (70+). Was I just lucky, or is the club that good anytime of year?

DonDonato
09-11-22, 17:18
Good idea to stay locally with only a short walk to the club. Again, I think the red taxis are the only one with decent pricing. Otherwise a taxi ride will quickly be expensive.

I have never tried to walk from Arnoldstein Bahnhof to the club. Google Maps stipulates the walk to be around 43 mnts. It is quite doable if the weather is nice, in broad daylight and you travel light. The area looks nice and safe. But to each their own.

An alternative is of course to call the red taxis in advance making a reservation in stead of waiting to call one when you arrive at Arnoldstein Bahnhof. Man, that train station area is boring! And zero taxis.

Personally I think will just take a red taxi from Villach next time if the price gap is only 15- 20E. I am way too horny to risk a 90 mnts detour.

How was the club in your experience? Wellcum was ROCKING on my visit last month with an excellent lineup (70+). Was I just lucky, or is the club that good anytime of year?I was in May and it was great experience. As always. Globe in Zurich, Goldentime Vienna and Wellcum are the best FKK clubs in Europe. After lockdown I've only been in Wellcum and almost nothing have changed from period before lockdown.

KombatWombat
10-09-22, 03:54
Just coming back from the "Castello" in Klagenfurt.

Line up improves really a lot with, "Baltic cluster" well represented Please divulge more on your experience which seems to include more than the typical Romanian wg's.

Fuschlszg
10-27-22, 17:29
Please divulge more on your experience which seems to include more than the typical Romanian wg's.The report has enough information what to expected.

Is not a question of "passport" of the girls, you will find Romanian w. G girls both on FKK and high class clubs and some of them work on the 2 type of clubs somewhere on their careers.

In fact "passport" is not relevant, at the end is your money that they want. What differs is the attitude and this is not related with their passport, the best ones are like actress and adapts easily to different type of clubs and customers contexts to maximize their profits.

Of course that high class clubs are more selective on the recruitment process, but you would find amazing girls on both sides. On high class club there is less risk of have girls with bad attitude, but can happen, so make your "screening time before spend the crazy amounts on an high end club. On a FKK usually there is few screening time (seconds)., or you go with the girl on they jump direct to other customer.