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Yesterday, my first day in Pattaya, I found a gem on Beach Road across from the famous Mr. 99 restaurant. Her name is Ning and apparently she has only been in town for a few weeks.
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I think we need a new thread called "Erotic stories and other fantasies". The days you could find a girl like that on Beach Road are long gone.
I think we need a new thread called "Erotic stories and other fantasies". The days you could find a girl like that on Beach Road are long gone.1474 posts and no reports or reviews? I guess every board needs a troll or two that just complains or tries to tell others what to do and their opinion that they think counts. High five!
I think we need a new thread called "Erotic stories and other fantasies". The days you could find a girl like that on Beach Road are long gone.In defense of Mr. Paw, I have had similar experiences, but I haven't been to Pattaya since 2015.
I think we need a new thread called "Erotic stories and other fantasies". The days you could find a girl like that on Beach Road are long gone.The only time I seen a girl that quality on Beach Rd, was around the turn of the century, an eon ago, in front of Royal Garden, not even standing up, sitting down smiling at me, turned out to be some hill tribe beauty from northern border, when everyone was asking 500, she wanted 1000, she knew her value. I took her for long time, 500 extra, that was the good old days. After that lucky encounter, never seen someone even half close to that on Beach Rd in this new century.
Thread Starter.Thanks a lot admin!
1474 posts and no reports or reviews? I guess every board needs a troll or two that just complains or tries to tell others what to do and their opinion that they think counts. High five!I admit I don't write that many reports or reviews anymore (it gets boring after some time) but I have written quite a lot in the past, when you were still in dia-pers I think.
But at least I am not making up stuff.
In defense of Mr. Paw, I have had similar experiences, but I haven't been to Pattaya since 2015.Me too, but I can easily count the times I found a pretty girl like that on Beach Road on the fingers of one hand.
I think we need a new thread called "Erotic stories and other fantasies". The days you could find a girl like that on Beach Road are long gone.Don't believe everything you read on a forum. Anyone can make up shit in this new internet age. Pattaya old hands will chuckle at this one.
Hmmm I saw a 9 out of 10 3 days ago on BR. At around 21:00 was staring at her phone and I normally don't do BR girls. So by the time I realised it That I should act, I was on my way to the gogo's on walking street.
Last 3 days had a walk on BR in hopes of seeing her again. No luck.
You see sometimes a 7 these last days, but if you walk past them and come back 10 minutes later they are gone.
So if a looker appears I can believe she is snatched up in record time.
But in general yes low level in the looks department.
Beijing4987
09-13-18, 16:19
Penthouse magazine published "stories". It would be preferable for members to have a seperate thread for them instead of perpetuating a pissing contest on the Bangkok thread, where members are trying to help others find women for sex, the main goal of ISG. To each his own, but I find it boring. The poster goes on my ignore list along with those that quote him.
Blanquiceleste
09-14-18, 05:29
Don't believe everything you read on a forum. Anyone can make up shit in this new internet age. Pattaya old hands will chuckle at this one.No disrespect to those who have been coming to Thailand since the dawn of ages. But just because something has not been done before does not mean it can never be done by anyone. That is precisely why the phrase YMMV came into being.
MP has a unique way of mongering unlike any other punter posting here. Perhaps BKKDog comes close. You can love him or hate him. But to say that he is making this all up does not really add anything to your own credibility.
Over the past 5 trips which covers 5 years I can say I have seen very good looking girls on Beach Road. They were certainly few and far between, but it does happen. I don't recall The Paw ever claiming beauties were plentiful on Beach Road. But his story of finding a beauty on occasion is very believable to me.
I think he has proven beyond the shadow of a doubt that he gets good looking women whether you like his game or not. But his game works and he shares the pictures to prove it.
The poster goes on my ignore list along with those that quote him.So you also put respected posters that quote him (like for example Banana Boi and Natty Bumpo, just to name a few) on your ignore list? That's rather drastic.
But to say that he is making this all up does not really add anything to your own credibility.To me it's pretty clear that he's making this all up. Especially his first story about a pretty girl he 'found' on Beach Road, and all the things she did in bed, is simply too good to be true. In the mean time he has posted a second story that is a little bit more credible but most likely not true either. Obviously he has found these girls somewhere because he has pictures of them, but certainly not on Beach Road.
I think these two stories from a man who's usually only hunting in the top agogo's and looks down on low end scenes like Beach Road are a response to HectorG's report about a very pretty student that he found on Beach Road (#26206 in the Pattaya thread). Apparently he didn't believe HectorG's story and therefore made up some of his own.
Why does it not add to my own credibility if I don't believe clear BS?
But his game works and he shares the pictures to prove it.Those pictures don't prove that he found them on Beach Road.
Franciscass
09-14-18, 08:55
Who knows for sure whether a members posts are fact or fiction? Over time however when adventures like sneaking across borders, finding clubs nobody else knows about or can find, situations with girls that are out of sync with most everybody else's experience it is reasonable to entertain some reservations. That said so what, if it's an annoyance use the ignore button. Personally for creative imagination while I prefer Aesop's fables or tales from the Brothers Grimm some posts can be mildly entertaining.
To me it's pretty clear that he's making this all up. Especially his first story about a pretty girl he 'found' on Beach Road, and all the things she did in bed, is simply too good to be true. In the mean time he has posted a second story that is a little bit more credible but most likely not true either. Obviously he has found these girls somewhere because he has pictures of them, but certainly not on Beach Road.
I think these two stories from a man who's usually only hunting in the top agogo's and looks down on low end scenes like Beach Road are a response to HectorG's report about a very pretty student that he found on Beach Road (#26206 in the Pattaya thread). Apparently he didn't believe HectorG's story and therefore made up some of his own.
Why does it not add to my own credibility if I don't believe clear BS?Tailoring his "reports" to compete with or outdo others, even when it includes elements he previously derided or looked down on is one of MP's more obvious hogwash giveaway tells.
Remember when he originally slammed some of us for suggesting getting BBFS or BBBJ+CIM would probably qualify as real sex with his overpriced "top quality" girls and might be the only things worth paying his high payment amounts for when it was obvious from his reports he was getting nothing near that kind of service from them? He said something like we were skanks risking our lives with other skanks to do such things, crap like that and how his "top quality" girls would never do or have to do such things for their high ticket prices. LOL. Next thing you know his "reports" were peppered with descriptions of barebacking this one, cum swallowing from that one, anal, free BJ training of another one at her request and so on! So obvious.
Kind of proud to say I was among the earliest to be put on his Ignore list for merely pointing how how many puzzling tells like that show up in his "reports".
To me it's pretty clear that he's making this all up. Making it all up? No, but many story tellers on ISG and other places embellish their stories, some more than others. The only thing I found incredulous about the story was how accommodating this girl was as most of the WGs here are not swallowers, at least not without a tip.
Crazy4Thai
09-14-18, 14:32
He lost credibility with me way back when he claimed to find such beauties in front of the little shit hole hotel on Soi 4. Details escape me but having walked past there every day the women who are there are truly the bottom of the barrel. Some perhaps as old as I am. It simply did not happen. I've been mongering Thailand for 26 years, 13 as a sexpat. He does have some pics yes. Did you ever notice how many of them are promo from a website?
MP has offered to trade contact. Why not just trade a contact with MP to prove he is lying? How hard can it be?
Blanquiceleste
09-14-18, 17:40
To me it's pretty clear that he's making this all up.
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Why does it not add to my own credibility if I don't believe clear BS?
Tailoring his "reports" to compete with or outdo others, even when it includes elements he previously derided or looked down on is one of MP's more obvious hogwash giveaway tells.
Kind of proud to say I was among the earliest to be put on his Ignore list for merely pointing how how many puzzling tells like that show up in his "reports".I would say the old timers are simply pissed, even jealous, because someone is actually banging cute Thai chicks who won't cast a second glance at them. I don't particularly subscribe to MP's way of humiliating girls at the bars, but I do know that he is the real deal.
Who knows for sure whether a members posts are fact or fiction? True! Applies to everyone.
I don't particularly subscribe to MP's way of humiliating girls at the bars, but I do know that he is the real deal.
Real deal in what way? Do you accompany him in his hotel room to witness that he actually does get what he claims to get by overpaying hookers?
Blanquiceleste
09-14-18, 18:33
Real deal in what way? Do you accompany him in his hotel room to witness that he actually does get what he claims to get by overpaying hookers?Applies to every other poster then. Why single out MP?
He lost credibility with me way back when he claimed to find such beauties in front of the little shit hole hotel on Soi 4. Details escape me but having walked past there every day the women who are there are truly the bottom of the barrel. Some perhaps as old as I am. It simply did not happen. I've been mongering Thailand for 26 years, 13 as a sexpat. He does have some pics yes. Did you ever notice how many of them are promo from a website?I remember that one. I walk past that restaurant-bar practically every day or night too and I swear I can't think of the name of it now because I have never seen anyone standing or sitting near the door except some of the worst and most obvious ladyboys on Soi 4, burnout drunks and old men.
Yet MP pulled that location out of his, uh, hat as the scene of a fortuitous meeting leading to hot sex with not one but two gorgeous young babes us oldtimers can only dream of bedding down for money but, alas, they won't give us so much as a single glance much less a second one. Darn.
Applies to every other poster then. Why single out MP?Only because you said you knew he was the real deal.
Who knows for sure whether a members posts are fact or fiction? Over time however when adventures like sneaking across borders, finding clubs nobody else knows about or can find, situations with girls that are out of sync with most everybody else's experience it is reasonable to entertain some reservations. That said so what, if it's an annoyance use the ignore button. Personally for creative imagination while I prefer Aesop's fables or tales from the Brothers Grimm some posts can be mildly entertaining.Why would anyone BS here? I know I have been, rightly so, for getting a location of a covered bath wrong so why risk being known as a liar by posting website pics and claiming to bang them? As soon as I see a pic from a website or any other SM platform I'm suspicious. I know some girls don't like their pics taken naked and a very low percentage not at all so actual pictorial evidence shouldn't be too hard to provide.
I personally can't see any reason to lie here because I believe it's all about sharing information to help others enjoy their experiences.
Rob.
Blanquiceleste
09-15-18, 05:12
Only because you said you knew he was the real deal.You may have extrapolated my words. That happens when you are consumed by your own thinking, lack empathy, quit listening, and see the world with colored glasses. Very sad.
What I meant by real deal is that he gets the hottest girls to go with him. The ones that will not cast a second glance at the old fogeys, even if they would shower the girls with drinks, tips, etc. And these girls will then throw themselves at him, fight over him and take pride in being selected by him.
Anyone can be questioned about what happens inside the room. I am not getting that far.
Why would anyone BS here? I know I have been, rightly so, for getting a location of a covered bath wrong so why risk being known as a liar by posting website pics and claiming to bang them? As soon as I see a pic from a website or any other SM platform I'm suspicious. I know some girls don't like their pics taken naked and a very low percentage not at all so actual pictorial evidence shouldn't be too hard to provide.
I personally can't see any reason to lie here because I believe it's all about sharing information to help others enjoy their experiences.
Rob.Ha ha. "Tall tales and true". While to you or me, it makes little sense to try to make up stuff, and maybe a lot more sense just to leave out details than to embellish, you can see that some writers have a very imaginative style, that looks suspicious. Other writers write very deadpan like they have no imagination (I think that is probably me). We can all choose what style of reports we like to read. I don't like really imaginative style or sarcastic fake humour. I do enjoy funny experiences though (rather few of those appear these days). I like Natty's recent report because he includes a lot of data on places visited and a quick assessment. Of course helps that I identified that my taste was very similar to his since a long while back (although I am narrower in my likes). So I will take a look at KC1 that he liked.
If the things someone wrote cannot be verified, including supposed factual data, then you have to remain sceptical.
Plenty of times a newspaper reported on something I attended myself, and I had to ask myself, was the reporter actually present. The view presented seemed grossly distorted. We all see the world through different eyes. "Believe nothing of what you hear, and a only 50% of what you see" is a great moto and it pays to be a pessimist. Be careful with interpretations. I also try to allow for many possibilities. On possibility is a report could be largely true, or could be largely twaddle. Obviously some posters get a history of reliable info. That helps. Possibility that a Thai girl is truthful generally (LOL yes some exist. If scarce). It is quite hard to catch my Thai GF on direct lies, unless she is telling it to someone else on the phone while I am present.
The forum could have some Walter Mittys. LOL However we were not present to see exactly what really happened ourselves.
Seems like MP is not developing a track record for reporting reliable useful info. His photos show some nice looking girls, but for sure I don't know where he got them from. That he is able to post them is suspicious. I can't post face pics of any of my girls. That is not on and would get me (and maybe them) into trouble.
Rockerfellar
09-15-18, 06:16
You may have extrapolated my words. That happens when you are consumed by your own thinking, lack empathy, quit listening, and see the world with colored glasses. Very sad.
What I meant by real deal is that he gets the hottest girls to go with him. The ones that will not cast a second glance at the old fogeys, even if they would shower the girls with drinks, tips, etc. And these girls will then throw themselves at him, fight over him and take pride in being selected by him.
Anyone can be questioned about what happens inside the room. I am not getting that far.Seriously, Gogo girls would throw themselves to MP, (Come on give me a break).
His photos show some nice looking girls, but for sure I don't know where he got them from. T.Most of his photos show one thing in common so they are all supposed to be taken by one person.
Franciscass
09-15-18, 07:56
Why would anyone BS here? I know I have been, rightly so, for getting a location of a covered bath wrong so why risk being known as a liar by posting website pics and claiming to bang them? As soon as I see a pic from a website or any other SM platform I'm suspicious. I know some girls don't like their pics taken naked and a very low percentage not at all so actual pictorial evidence shouldn't be too hard to provide.
I personally can't see any reason to lie here because I believe it's all about sharing information to help others enjoy their experiences.
Rob.Why would anybody BS? Senseless? Yes. Does it happen, are you kidding, of course it does.
So why? Possibly a pathological disorder, perhaps a Walter Mitty complex or most likely somebody who in reality because of deficiencies in looks, personality and resources lives a ho hum boring existence but dreams of being rich good looking with a game to match and who lives out these fantasies online.
Another possible explanation is the attention totally lacking in their everyday life they get when they post outlandish tales.
His photos show some nice looking girls, but for sure I don't know where he got them from. That he is able to post them is suspicious. I can't post face pics of any of my girls. That is not on and would get me (and maybe them) into trouble.Sooner or later it will get MP in trouble as well.
Applies to every other poster then. Why single out MP?Because he is clearly provoking, exaggerating, embellishing and making things up. Much more so than others.
I would say the old timers are simply pissed, even jealous, because someone is actually banging cute Thai chicks who won't cast a second glance at them. No mate, you don't get it. I'm not jealous at all because I'm banging cute Thai chicks as well and most of the time his girls look too ladyboy'ish for me anyway.
But you're right that I'm pissed. I'm pissed because he's harming the board with his BS and gives newbies and other gullible board members a false impression of P4 P in Thailand.
MP has offered to trade contact. Why not just trade a contact with MP to prove he is lying? How hard can it be?That would mean that my contact must have sex with him. No thank you very much. I care about my girls.
Blanquiceleste
09-15-18, 11:24
That would mean that my contact must have sex with him. No thank you very much. I care about my girls.My girls. Hahahaha. Listen to yourself man. You think little Lek is sitting quietly at home when you aren't banging her? Lmao.
Because he is clearly provoking, exaggerating, embellishing and making things up. Much more so than others.Isn't that your opinion? I mean do you know for sure, backed by evidence, that he is exaggerating? I doubt you do.
No mate, you don't get it. I'm not jealous at all because I'm banging cute Thai chicks as well and most of the time his girls look too ladyboy'ish for me anyway.
But you're right that I'm pissed. I'm pissed because he's harming the board with his BS and gives newbies and other gullible board members a false impression of P4 P in Thailand.Grapes are sour. Of course we have heard this all before. No one is making a fool of anyone. People are grown up enough to get boots on the ground and find out for themselves. There will always be the aye sayers and the nay sayers.
My girls. Hahahaha. Listen to yourself man. You think little Lek is sitting quietly at home when you aren't banging her? Lmao.You know very well that I didn't mean 'my girlfriend(s)'.
Isn't that your opinion? I mean do you know for sure, backed by evidence, that he is exaggerating? I doubt you do.No, I don't. But do you know for sure, backed by evidence, that he's telling the truth? I doubt you do.
Anyway, for me it is so obvious that he's lying that I don't need proof.
Jimmy Boy 99
09-15-18, 13:54
Given that MP usually has the girl take a picture with his teddy bear it seems obvious that he does actually have the girl in his room, and that they are usually not promo shots (although what the girl did for how long and how much is not as indisputable). Why would he make up where he found them? It's not like he is getting bragging rights for where he picks up girls. I am puzzled however as to when he took the pool shot, since I didn't see his mentioning going to the pool in his report. Also, she happened to have a bikini with her while she working? Or does he keep a supply of bikinis for such occasions?
Given that MP usually has the girl take a picture with his teddy bear it seems obvious that he does actually have the girl in his room, and that they are usually not promo shots (although what the girl did for how long and how much is not as indisputable). Why would he make up where he found them? It's not like he is getting bragging rights for where he picks up girls. I am puzzled however as to when he took the pool shot, since I didn't see his mentioning going to the pool in his report. Also, she happened to have a bikini with her while she working? Or does he keep a supply of bikinis for such occasions?Same thing I thought. If you have been reading his post with some regularity you will see the occasional shot lifted from a website. My major point is you don't have to make shit up that happens in Pattaya because anything my friends and I have wished for happens.
Blanquiceleste
09-15-18, 15:45
Given that MP usually has the girl take a picture with his teddy bear it seems obvious that he does actually have the girl in his room, and that they are usually not promo shots (although what the girl did for how long and how much is not as indisputable). Why would he make up where he found them? It's not like he is getting bragging rights for where he picks up girls. I am puzzled however as to when he took the pool shot, since I didn't see his mentioning going to the pool in his report. Also, she happened to have a bikini with her while she working? Or does he keep a supply of bikinis for such occasions?Possibly some pics from the girl's social media profile. A lot of the girls post nice pics of themselves on their LINE timeline.
Blanquiceleste
09-15-18, 15:51
No, I don't. But do you know for sure, backed by evidence, that he's telling the truth? I doubt you do. Anyway, for me it is so obvious that he's lying that I don't need proof.I think I said in my previous post that we are not talking about what he does with the girl inside the room. Anyone can be questioned on that. We are only talking about his ability to find hot girls.
You have convinced yourself (judge, jury, executioner) that MP is making it all up. Cannot wake up a man who is pretending to be asleep. I will leave this here.
PedroMorales
09-15-18, 17:56
Given that MP usually has the girl take a picture with his teddy bear it seems obvious that he does actually have the girl in his room, and that they are usually not promo shots (although what the girl did for how long and how much is not as indisputable). Why would he make up where he found them? It's not like he is getting bragging rights for where he picks up girls. I am puzzled however as to when he took the pool shot, since I didn't see his mentioning going to the pool in his report. Also, she happened to have a bikini with her while she working? Or does he keep a supply of bikinis for such occasions?The teddy bear is pulling the babes and giving MP sticky seconds. Women are amazed at a talking teddy and more so when they see the size of his hom yai.
You may have extrapolated my words. That happens when you are consumed by your own thinking, lack empathy, quit listening, and see the world with colored glasses. Very sad.
What I meant by real deal is that he gets the hottest girls to go with him. The ones that will not cast a second glance at the old fogeys, even if they would shower the girls with drinks, tips, etc. And these girls will then throw themselves at him, fight over him and take pride in being selected by him.
Anyone can be questioned about what happens inside the room. I am not getting that far.Practically everyone gets follow up questions about details in their posts that don't seem to jibe with easily observable reality. I do too. We get side tracked while composing and skip a pertinent sentence or two. Many of us are using our thumbs to type these out on a mobile phone.
When it happens that we are questioned or challenged, I and most others here just reply with clarification. Because we can.
It would never occur to me to put people on Ignore simply because they had legitimate questions about major lapses in the scenario of a post. Unless I was unable to fill in the missing pieces and afraid of being found out.
BTW, doing so would be another huge tell that the big climactic scenes and point of your tall tales was very likely utter hogwash.
Meanwhile, nobody can find a major lapse in easily observable reality that someone can get very hot hookers to follow him to a hotel room if he spent enough money to make that happen, more often than not with dimishing returns in the bed relative to the money spent. Even us oldtimers did and sometimes still do that.
Given that MP usually has the girl take a picture with his teddy bear it seems obvious that he does actually have the girl in his room, and that they are usually not promo shots (although what the girl did for how long and how much is not as indisputable). Why would he make up where he found them? It's not like he is getting bragging rights for where he picks up girls. Oh, I think in the tale about the two gorgeous babes lingering in front of that tavern he just plucked a location on Soi 4 out of the air that he assumed most of us had passed at some point. Not knowing that spot is so small, confined and virtually without exception a station for 1 or 2 ladyboys with the occasional burnout sitting in a chair. But it gave a specificity to his tale without introducing the kind of complications and followup questions that would have been triggered if he'd said he spotted them standing, say, in front of the Nana Hotel parking lot.
How come when I was in Thailand I never once saw such girls as MP posted with foreigners?
No mate, you don't get it. I'm not jealous at all because I'm banging cute Thai chicks as well and most of the time his girls look too ladyboy'ish for me anyway.
I thought the same thing about some of MP's pics I saw. But it's a funny thing about pics. Especially with regard to Thai girls. The camera is not as truthful with them as with others for some reason.
Many of the most desirable Thai girls I know, the ones who turn heads when they walk with me, take uninspiring pics. While some of the hottest pics I've seen turned out to be of girls I would work hard to ignore if they tried to chat me up on the bts train. LOL.
Sometimes it is close though. My current regular non P4P girlfriend, taller than most, slim but curvy, all natural, 21 years old, no baby, no tats, no piercings, comes across as a 9 in some pics. Model quality. In real life I would give her a solid 8, particularly when she is wearing super short pants and lets her long hair down. Naked, she moves up to an 8.5 imo. A real world 8.5, that is, not a go-go bargirl or P4P girl 8.5.
Arthur Bishop
09-16-18, 01:37
Got to handed to MonkeyPaw, he has managed to get +40 posts, mostly from senior members, just talking about him. He must be LMAO, not to mention that he has played this just the same way, he describes his game with girls in those places. Soon he will have his own thread: MonkeyPaw's Diary. I do enjoy reading his posts, most of them well written, mixing facts, intel with specific details and a good dose of creative license, making the posts very entertaining to read.
Eszpresszo
09-16-18, 02:49
I think I said in my previous post that we are not talking about what he does with the girl inside the room. Anyone can be questioned on that. We are only talking about his ability to find hot girls.Absolutely correct. The only viable way to prove such a thing is to make a video and either interview the girl, ask her age, details and how much you are being paid for to do what. Then the lucky monger can write his screen name on the girls belly with lipstick, and do the deed while he is holding the camera. However, if I have to go that far to provide proof, I'll just make porn videos with prostitutes for the internet and run a pay site like Epic Cumshot Guy or Cony's Girls and I wouldn't be bothering to post anything here. Because we aren't able to post videos on this board.
Probably a more feasible thing to do is post your passport stamps against a piece of paper with your screen name on it. Then post it along with your FR. These should correspond with the dates on of your trip report. I've done this for the last two trips I've made this year and will do it going forward. It doesn't prove I did any of the mongering I claim to do, and for all anyone knows I just sat in my hotel room wanking off the entire time I was in Bogota weekend before last. However, it does prove where I was during a certain period of time. If everyone who posted here was compelled to do that, in order to retain posting privileges, there would be few people posting on ISG. AFAIK, nobody else has bothered to do this.
Blanquiceleste
09-16-18, 04:30
I thought the same thing about some of MP's pics I saw. But it's a funny thing about pics. Especially with regard to Thai girls. The camera is not as truthful with them as with others for some reason.
Many of the most desirable Thai girls I know, the ones who turn heads when they walk with me, take uninspiring pics. While some of the hottest pics I've seen turned out to be of girls I would work hard to ignore if they tried to chat me up on the bts train. LOL.
Sometimes it is close though. My current regular non P4P girlfriend, taller than most, slim but curvy, all natural, 21 years old, no baby, no tats, no piercings, comes across as a 9 in some pics. Model quality. In real life I would give her a solid 8, particularly when she is wearing super short pants and lets her long hair down. Naked, she moves up to an 8.5 imo. A real world 8.5, that is, not a go-go bargirl or P4P girl 8.5.Time for someone to look into a mirror I guess.
Sometimes it is close though. My current regular non P4P girlfriend, taller than most, slim but curvy, all natural, 21 years old, no baby, no tats, no piercings, comes across as a 9 in some pics. Model quality. In real life I would give her a solid 8, particularly when she is wearing super short pants and lets her long hair down. Naked, she moves up to an 8.5 imo. A real world 8.5, that is, not a go-go bargirl or P4P girl 8.5.Your "current". Sounds like you go through a lot of GFs, so how long do they last, do they know they will be replaced before too long, and what are they looking for with you? Sex or something else. You are still mongering, so can we assume you don't really get enough sex out of GFs? That was the case with me, although my GF (of 13 years) has been providing better these days, so my mongering as dropped off and I am down to just a very few regulars, used sparsely. I did try two new girls this last week which was purely due to my regular P4 P girls list getting so low, however I do go for weeks at time with GF and no mongering now.
Are you happy with risk of catching something, e. G. Chlamydia (very easy to catch and not always noticed), and transferring that to the GF? I put up with using thin Jap condoms when mongering, because I don't want to risk it. I don't even know what percentage of the girls would be willing to do BBFS.
Your "current". Sounds like you go through a lot of GFs, so how long do they last, do they know they will be replaced before too long, and what are they looking for with you? Sex or something else. You are still mongering, so can we assume you don't really get enough sex out of GFs? That was the case with me, although my GF (of 13 years) has been providing better these days, so my mongering as dropped off and I am down to just a very few regulars, used sparsely. I did try two new girls this last week which was purely due to my regular P4 P girls list getting so low, however I do go for weeks at time with GF and no mongering now.
Are you happy with risk of catching something, e. G. Chlamydia (very easy to catch and not always noticed), and transferring that to the GF? I put up with using thin Jap condoms when mongering, because I don't want to risk it. I don't even know what percentage of the girls would be willing to do BBFS.I have been seeing this one for more than a year. But not exclusively. I was faithful/exclusive with my wives when we lived under the same roof. But I have rarely been exclusive with gfs. The one I mentioned here is the one I spend the most time with, the go-to one for anything special like a trip out of town, holiday times and events.
Big move; I've given her a drawer in my closet. LOL. Spilling over a little now. She stays overnight 2-3 nights per week, typically on her "Friday" before a free day from her job, which is almost never actually Friday, and the next day and night before she returns to work the morning after that. This is one of those rare times when she is off work for the weekend and is with me now. Taking a shower right now.
But a couple of other non P4P girls might say they are my GF these days.
They drop off the roster when they become too boring. If sexually boring, that usually means when one of my three basic sexual requirements are not met as often as I like; keeping it shaved, BBFS and BBBJ+CIM+Swallow. As I alluded to in another thread, the surprising thing to me is the shaving requirement is the one most likely to go off the schedule and get them dropped. Weird. One would think it would be the BBBJ+CIM+Swallow. But no.
And I really don't like to remind girls to keep up the shaving. A couple of past drop offs might contact me weeks later and ask why I hadn't met with them lately. Usually the "oh I've just been busy" thing works. But when it doesn't I finally tell them it was because I never knew how much hair I would have to fight through when the panties came down. Oh well.
Maybe I would be diagnosed as a sex addict because having regular gfs does not stop me from shopping and partaking of go-go girls and FLs around town or online. Doesn't stop me from searching for new potential regular gfs either.
As far as catching something goes, I don't know what to say except I have been barebacking with girls from around the globe for over 45 years and never gotten sick from sex except a dose of trichomoniasis I got from a university GF back when I was 19. Took some tablets for 3-5 days and it was gone. I've had a vasectomy and I get checked for HIV and syphilis every 1-2 months not because I am concerned about getting it but because I like to have the results document on hand.
Last week I got a comprehensive physician's exam including tons of blood work and checking for STDs for 25,000 baht at Bumrungrad Hospital and every test result was normal except for a slightly higher than ideal bad cholesterol level that was somewhat offset by a good cholesterol level. The doc said I might want to reduce my intake of red meat. Ok.
ShimShimHeyo
09-16-18, 07:27
As I alluded to in another thread, the surprising thing to me is the shaving requirement is the one most likely to go off the schedule and get them dropped. Weird. One would think it would be the BBBJ+CIM+Swallow. But no.
And I really don't like to remind girls to keep up the shaving. A couple of past drop offs might contact me weeks later and ask why I hadn't met with them lately. Usually the "oh I've just been busy" thing works. But when it doesn't I finally tell them it was because I never knew how much hair I would have to fight through when the panties came down. Oh well.I'm no expert or a hair scientist but I may have an explanation. There was a time when I shaved my pubic hair. No, not gay. I was body builder and we had to go hairless for competitions and photo shoots. It's not like shaving my face at all. The skin in the nether regions is sensitive and extremely prone to irritation and ingrown hair. After the first shave it feels really good but in one or two days, the area would feel extremely itchy and many times, pimples would form because of an ingrown hair. In order to prevent this, I had to apply lotion and a special cream constantly. In time I learned special techniques to help such as prepping the skin with exfoliating washes, steam and hot towels. Shaving my face takes less than 5 minutes. Shaving my crotch and thighs took half an hour. Repeated shaving only made it worse as the hair became thick and increasingly irritating and prone to ingrown hair. The only relief I had was when I didn't have a photo shoot or a competition and I could let the stubble grow out a bit.
This is why many girls often let it grow out as well. It feels good to not have an itchy, pimply crotch. Having hair feels good and I do not want to go back to the days of having to shave at all. Yes, I did try waxing but it is not cheap when added up. Also, you cannot wax too often. To keep it bare smooth constantly I could not wax. The wax needs a fair amount of hair to grab on to so I would need to let it grow out a bit in order to get a good waxing done. This also means that when waxing short stubbly hair, the waxing lady needs to rip that ***** with added strength and it hurt like a mother fucker.
I used to like a well-shaved pussy but now that I know what it takes to keep the crotch area looking porn star smooth, I let my gfs grow it out and just keep it trimmed.
You have convinced yourself (judge, jury, executioner) that MP is making it all up.Aren't you doing the same thing? You have convinced yourself (judge, jury, executioner) that MP is NOT making it all up.
Same process, just another outcome.
Got to handed to MonkeyPaw, he has managed to get +40 posts, mostly from senior members, just talking about him. Yes, that's the downside of this thread: he already gets too much attention in the 'normal' threads and now he's getting even more attention.
It surprises me that he hasn't responded yet in this thread.
Franciscass
09-16-18, 07:45
Yes, that's the downside of this thread: he already gets too much attention in the 'normal' threads and now he's getting even more attention.
It surprises me that he hasn't responded yet in this thread.He's living the dream, so much attention and here's another to add to his diary.
Aren't you doing the same thing? You have convinced yourself (judge, jury, executioner) that MP is NOT making it all up.
Same process, just another outcome.Do we have a hung jury? LOL or perhaps the jury has not reached a verdict. Personally I don't give a shit one way or the other because not reliant on information posted. I always allow for posts that might not be 100% true, and the more flamboyant or stylish the writer, the more suspicious I am. Once someone has posted a lot of varied, verifiable and reasonable stuff, they earn credibility. Never can be 100% sure.
Franciscass
09-16-18, 15:58
I love a shaved pussy, not just a bristly three four day old shaving job but when it's as smooth as silk and as bald as a coot. BBFS is something else and while I have no issues with anybody who wants to indulge I feel it's irresponsible to engage in it with sex workers who do it either out of ignorance of the risks involved and yes there are risks or financial necessity. As to CIM and swallow I like a good BJ and if my dick is in her mouth when I pop all the better. I get it, to each their own whatever turns you on but I'm at a lost as to why somebody needs the girl to swallow.
But to say that he is making this all up does not really add anything to your own credibility.I never made that claim. Read it again!
PedroMorales
09-16-18, 16:12
Do we have a hung jury?.Lotsa guys here claim to be hung. I don't.
Arthur Bishop
09-16-18, 18:11
Yes, that's the downside of this thread: he already gets too much attention in the 'normal' threads and now he's getting even more attention.
It surprises me that he hasn't responded yet in this thread.I will be surprised if he responds or engages, he already got the game started, some people challenging his claims and some people defending him, just the same thing he does in bars with girls, as per his posts. He is probably sitting on his couch showing all these posts to a WG and telling her that MonkeyPaw is not only famous with the girls at the bar, but he is also famous with the guys too. The girl will go back to the bar and tell all the other girls just that, while he keeps building his notoriety or reputation. LOL.
Beijing4987
09-16-18, 18:13
Do we have a hung jury? LOL or perhaps the jury has not reached a verdict. Personally I don't give a shit one way or the other because not reliant on information posted. I always allow for posts that might not be 100% true, and the more flamboyant or stylish the writer, the more suspicious I am. Once someone has posted a lot of varied, verifiable and reasonable stuff, they earn credibility. Never can be 100% sure.Get a camera crew to follow him around. We all can learn from a source of power and game.
The photos of various girls in a room with teddy bears and eating what appears to be home cooked meals is proof enough for me. He is a young, wealthy, Asian guy so why is it hard to believe he gets the top go go girls? While there may be some embellishment and some of his methods disagreeable, I find it obvious The Paw isn't just a talker / dreamer. Several members here, both new and old (and respected), have met him in person. He has reached out to first timers and spent time with them which is a good thing. I find his posts helpful, interesting, and above all entertaining. Not many individual posters get a thread dedicated to them so The Paw obviously interests others as well. Don't get too worked up about anything you read in this forum.
The photos of various girls in a room with teddy bears and eating what appears to be home cooked meals is proof enough for me. He is a young, wealthy, Asian guy so why is it hard to believe he gets the top go go girls? While there may be some embellishment and some of his methods disagreeable, I find it obvious The Paw isn't just a talker / dreamer. Several members here, both new and old (and respected), have met him in person. He has reached out to first timers and spent time with them which is a good thing. I find his posts helpful, interesting, and above all entertaining. Not many individual posters get a thread dedicated to them so The Paw obviously interests others as well. Don't get too worked up about anything you read in this forum.That is the way I see it. He is not someone who is hiding behind keyboard. He tells you where he is and even how to recognize him. He contributes more detail reports in recent months than any other members. The go go girls in his reports can be tracked down easily, yet I don't see anybody calls him out on those.
He maybe bragging but he also readily admits he gets about 50% GFE. I won't call that bragging.
I have met girls in his reviews and in reviews from the other side. From my experience, he is more accurate on what to expect on look and service. I say this not because I have a great time with the girls on either side.
Beijing4987
09-16-18, 22:23
1474 posts and no reports or reviews? I guess every board needs a troll or two that just complains or tries to tell others what to do and their opinion that they think counts. High five!This thread was started for you. Go for it.
Blanquiceleste
09-17-18, 01:31
That is the way I see it. He is not someone who is hiding behind keyboard. He tells you where he is and even how to recognize him. He contributes more detail reports in recent months than any other members. The go go girls in his reports can be tracked down easily, yet I don't see anybody calls him out on those.
He maybe bragging but he also readily admits he gets about 50% GFE. I won't call that bragging.
I have met girls in his reviews and in reviews from the other side. From my experience, he is more accurate on what to expect on look and service. I say this not because I have a great time with the girls on either side.Is the jury swinging?
Is the jury swinging?MP should have his own page LOL.
You definitely have HPV. It is not detectable in men unless you get symptoms, and most men don't. But when you pass it to a woman, they can die from cervical cancer. Guess you are either ignorant or you don't give a shit. But really. You 99.99 percent have HPV.I have been both tested (negative) and vaccinated for HPV. Nice try though.
I used to like a well-shaved pussy but now that I know what it takes to keep the crotch area looking porn star smooth, I let my gfs grow it out and just keep it trimmed.I am fine with closely trimmed, too. But I start by telling the girls I prefer shaved and see where it goes from there. If they are already keeping themselves shaved smooth, great. If they try it and have the kind of problem you mentioned, I am fine with them keeping it closely trimmed. But once the hairs start to criss cross over the pussy lips, I'm out. Or, rather, they're out until they get it back under control. It's mostly a negotiation move; ask for 10, accept 8. Reluctantly.
Girls have asked me how short is short enough if they cannot keep up the shaving as though there is some set measurement they can go by. Like, get out your tape measure or something. I tell them if I need to use my fingers to push the hair aside in order to get my lips and tongue in there to eat their pussy or prevent it from tickling my nose, it is TOO LONG. LOL.
I love a shaved pussy, not just a bristly three four day old shaving job but when it's as smooth as silk and as bald as a coot. BBFS is something else and while I have no issues with anybody who wants to indulge I feel it's irresponsible to engage in it with sex workers who do it either out of ignorance of the risks involved and yes there are risks or financial necessity. As to CIM and swallow I like a good BJ and if my dick is in her mouth when I pop all the better. I get it, to each their own whatever turns you on but I'm at a lost as to why somebody needs the girl to swallow.I have not been able to pop wearing a condom since I first used one back in my early 20's. I have tried dozens of them since then. Now I am 65. Ain't going to happen no matter how many different miracle condoms are invented and I know it. So for me it is either go bareback or stop engaging in penile-vaginal intercourse with a finish. That ain't going to happen either.
My methods for being as safe as possible and my strong recommendation to anyone else engaging in routine barebacking is to be circumcised, get a vasectomy, make sure everything is well lubricated naturally or chemically, mostly go slow and gentle, as much as possible avoid prolonged "rough" play that might create abrasions such as 30 minute long aggressive cowgirl action from your lady, when you finish get up within a few minutes to wash with soapy water and take a leak, get yourself tested for biggies every 1-2 months, try to choose well in terms of anything obviously or visually alarming about your girl's vagina.
Are those fail-safe methods? Nothing is. But I can tell you that virtually every man I know who claims or tries to use a condom every time has at least 1 unplanned child and can relate stories about getting a dose of something nasty multiple times where none of those things have happened to me in over 45 years of barebacking with by now thousands of different women from all around the world.
As far as a blowjob finishing with a swallow instead of a spit goes, I don't understand why anyone would want the girl to spit instead of swallowing. So, if given the choice, I prefer the girl to swallow. The feeling isn't enhanced at the end of a blowjob if the girl swallows instead of spits (unless she stops too soon in order to spit, of course, then it really matters) because there are no nerve endings in the cum itself to transmit pleasure signals to your brain at that moment. Yeah, I get that. Where the pleasure is enhanced is all during the blowjob, when you know the girl will swallow and is in fact trying to get you to cum into her mouth so she can swallow it. That raises the pleasure level of the blowjob considerably, imo, and it does that for many more minutes of the experience, from start to finish actually, than for just the second or two it takes for her to swallow at the end.
Consequently, for this purpose it must be understood from either an agreement beforehand or past experience with the girl that she will swallow and not spit. Swallowing at the end without her making sure you were aware that she would swallow at the end is kind of a wasted opportunity. Maybe it's a nice surprise, but hardly enhances anything in terms of pleasure for the reasons I just stated. It essentially misses and denies the whole point of swallowing at the end instead of spitting.
If you don't think whether your partner swallows or spits at the end of an act of oral sex matters, start spitting out your lady's wetness at the end of a DATY session and see how she feels about it. My guess is she isn't going to feel neutral about it since, hey, she came already so what's the difference whether you spit or swallow, right?
I will be surprised if he responds or engages, he already got the game started, some people challenging his claims and some people defending him, just the same thing he does in bars with girls, as per his posts. He is probably sitting on his couch showing all these posts to a WG and telling her that MonkeyPaw is not only famous with the girls at the bar, but he is also famous with the guys too. The girl will go back to the bar and tell all the other girls just that, while he keeps building his notoriety or reputation. LOL.Do you suppose they'll be particularly impressed when they see the words "Stupid Shit" in the Subject Line of this thread he might proudly claim is devoted to him? LOL.
Arthur Bishop
09-17-18, 02:50
Do you suppose they'll be particularly impressed when they see the words "Stupid Shit" in the Subject Line of this thread he might proudly claim is devoted to him? LOL.Is that a rhetorical question? You are one of the most qualified to answer it, considering that you have written about 20% of the posts in this thread so far. LOL.
Banana Boi
09-17-18, 03:46
That is the way I see it. He is not someone who is hiding behind keyboard. He tells you where he is and even how to recognize him. He contributes more detail reports in recent months than any other members. The go go girls in his reports can be tracked down easily, yet I don't see anybody calls him out on those.
He maybe bragging but he also readily admits he gets about 50% GFE. I won't call that bragging.
I have met girls in his reviews and in reviews from the other side. From my experience, he is more accurate on what to expect on look and service. I say this not because I have a great time with the girls on either side.Anyone who goes to gogo bars often enough will know who MP is. I figured out who MP was before I officially met him. I had to watch his behavior from afar before I decided he was ok to meet! MP has an open invitation for anyone who wants to meet him. He doesn't hide behind a keyboard. He's even posted very distinguishable photos of himself on this site. As Wind says he tells you exactly which bars to go to if you want to find him. He also specifies what type of drink he drinks.
Like Blancquiceleste, I will vouch he is the real deal. I don't agree with all the crazy shit he does in the bars but I can see the girls actually enjoy when he does it as it break their monotony of the vanilla customer. Poor #174 who can not be barfined at Palace really takes the brunt of his abuse but she seems to love him. If he was really being offensive to a girl to the point it was p1ssing her off I'd be the first to tell him.
I know of or have seen many of the gogo girls he has barfined. We don't really have the same taste but I can safely say there are no dogs in the group. In fact, most of the girls look better in person than the photos he posts. I have met that bear in his photos. It needs a bath!
Anyone who goes to gogo bars often enough will know who MP is. I figured out who MP was before I officially met him. I had to watch his behavior from afar before I decided he was ok to meet! MP has an open invitation for anyone who wants to meet him. He doesn't hide behind a keyboard. He's even posted very distinguishable photos of himself on this site. As Wind says he tells you exactly which bars to go to if you want to find him. He also specifies what type of drink he drinks.
Like Blancquiceleste, I will vouch he is the real deal. I don't agree with all the crazy shit he does in the bars but I can see the girls actually enjoy when he does it as it break their monotony of the vanilla customer. If he was really being offensive to a girl to the point it was p1 ssing her off I'd be the first to tell him.
I know of or have seen many of the gogo girls he has barfined. We don't really have the same taste but I can safely say there are no dogs in the group. In fact, most of the girls look better in person than the photos he posts. I have met that bear in his photos. It needs a bath!I don't think anyone has been doubting or questioning the kinds of things you mention here or denying that he is a real person who goes into go-go bars, buys lady drinks, interacts with and barfines decent looking girls.
Franciscass
09-17-18, 04:47
I have not been able to pop wearing a condom since I first used one back in my early 20's. I have tried dozens of them since then. Now I am 65. Ain't going to happen no matter how many different miracle condoms are invented and I know it. So for me it is either go bareback or stop engaging in penile-vaginal intercourse with a finish. That ain't going to happen either.
Consequently, for this purpose it must be understood from either an agreement beforehand or past experience with the girl that she will swallow and not spit. Swallowing at the end without her making sure you were aware that she would swallow at the end is kind of a wasted opportunity. Maybe it's a nice surprise, but hardly enhances anything in terms of pleasure for the reasons I just stated. It essentially misses and denies the whole point of swallowing at the end instead of spitting.
If you don't think whether your partner swallows or spits at the end of an act of oral sex matters, start spitting out your lady's wetness at the end of a DATY session and see how she feels about it. My guess is she isn't going to feel neutral about it since, hey, she came already so what's the difference whether you spit or swallow, right?Well-argued ET. We can all agree au natural is more enjoyable and if covered means no pop then as you say it's either abstinence or BB. The degree we can argue about but the reality is that unprotected sex carries with it a higher risk of STIs. You obviously take precautions through regular testing to ensure you are healthy, so far so good and long may it continue. My point was that the minority of working girls who engage in unprotected sex would not do so if they were well educated in the associated dangers or overlooked these dangers for financial considerations.
As to swallowing. To be honest knowing the girl will is not a turn on but that's just me. Yes if after CIM she contorts her face in disgust, holds her hand over her mouth, rushes to the sink to spit out the offending liquid and loudly gargles mouthfuls of Listerine till the bottle is empty then shit for sure that won't make me feel good. My own experiences have been a discreet discharge while I'm peacefully reclining enjoying the afterglow even sometimes playfully opening her mouth to show what she has just managed to suck from my body. But hey no issues ET whatever turns you on.
Maybe I would be diagnosed as a sex addict because having regular gfs does not stop me from shopping and partaking of go-go girls and FLs around town or online. Doesn't stop me from searching for new potential regular gfs either.
Yeh yeh we are all sex addicts, no big deal. LOL I can't quite eliminate my desires for young beautiful pussy. I can't even quit bar girls, when I know is not best value for money. I have cut down, so some minor level of control. I still enjoyed looking at some nice naked girls the other day, because pussies were shaved, bodies natural and good, nice tits. Have not seen that for awhile. Perhaps I am not a full addict as have gone for several weeks with no fuck on occasion (not in Thailand).
I don't have a desire to accumulate extra GFs. Too difficult to manage. LOL Just 1 is more than enough on the non-sexual level and less than enough on the sexual level. That is the problem.
You don't really comment on what the girls are looking for. Surely you have worked that out? Perhaps you are being too modest. It is conceivable that girls are looking for a good fuck in some cases. My regular Gik told me exactly what reasons I qualify, so not completely unlucky. LOL I hesitate to write it here though. I can at least write she likes to get help with her rent money. That part is obvious. Also seems to like DATY but not all guys do that to a suitable standard. So my Gik is horny enough and needs a fuck from whoever are the best options at the time, when her official main BF is not around.
You seem to have been very lucky with STDs. I have caught Chlamydia twice over a 25 year period, and I am in the category I don't do bareback normally with miscellaneous girls, so I assure you that while HIV maybe very difficult to acquire, some others are not. You have to asses the likelihood with each girl. Girls willing to do BB with anyone are more risky, and obviously girls with a drug problem etc. Are more risky. Girls with Thai pimp probably more risky too. The good thing is the easily caught diseases are easily curable.
I once had some other unknown urinary tract infection, and was tested, but never found out what it was or if could have been sexually transmitted. One buddy hooked up with low class girls in Bangkok and caught the Gonnor. In his first week here.
I had long term test for Herpes types HSV 1 & 2 (I think called IgG test), since never having any actual symptoms (but heard possible to have no symptoms). One test was positive and another was negative. False positives and negatives are quite possible, so in the end I am still none the wiser. Might get yet another test to see if positives or negatives dominate, or maybe I just don't care any more.
Anyone who goes to gogo bars often enough will know who MP is. I figured out who MP was before I officially met him. I had to watch his behavior from afar before I decided he was ok to meet!
Like Blancquiceleste, I will vouch he is the real deal. Thanks for clearing that up. Hopefully the nay sayers will go away. We must remind them that we can't decide what the other guy experienced when we were not actually present. LOL While the beach road may have a lot of shitty girls, a fluke is always possible.
When guys write that such things are impossible, it makes them look just a little bit jealous, or feeling too superior. It must be impossible for MP to get better than me, right?
Even if guys are sceptical about some report (in general), I always say "who cares"? The forum is just a collection of stories, true or distorted, with hopefully a smattering of useful facts thrown in. I have never been 100% sure that a guy writes bullshit, even if he is new and apparently fishing for publicity for a specific venue. Clearly MP was never in that category. So allow for the possibilities.
One guy wrote he had a 9 inch dick. It is possible if he is the one in 10000. Makes him disadvantaged as will get a lot of refusals and probably never gets full penetration. I don't care if it is true or not. It can be possible. There have to be some freaks around, and no he did not grow it using pills. LOL
Refute incorrect facts, post your own experiences, but don't try to know the other guy's experience too much. Guys that are always posting negative stuff should try to enjoy life more.
You don't really comment on what the girls are looking for. Surely you have worked that out? Perhaps you are being too modest. It is conceivable that girls are looking for a good fuck in some cases. My regular Gik told me exactly what reasons I qualify, so not completely unlucky. LOL I hesitate to write it here though. I can at least write she likes to get help with her rent money. That part is obvious. Also seems to like DATY but not all guys do that to a suitable standard. So my Gik is horny enough and needs a fuck from whoever are the best options at the time, when her official main BF is not around.You're right, I did not get a chance to address that question in the previous exchange. When it comes to the non P4P girls I meet around town or online, they are no doubt looking to trade some sexual favors and intimacy for a hoped for long term relationship, ideally leading to marriage or similar support commitment. Pretty much the same as women the world over from the beginning of the time. Sure, I'd like to think they are also very happy to cum in ways they perhaps hadn't or as well or as often as with other guys. But I have no way of knowing for sure if they really mean that. I just do the best I can for them in that way. And I don't think it would change the arrangement and goal from their point of view all that much if they weren't getting that with me.
For girls like that I feel I am giving them the chance to prove there is a reason I would give up the freedom and variety I have now for what they offer. You know those three basic sexual requirements I've mentioned a few times already? Turns out I have not been so convinced by a girl who provides all three with such satisfying and impressive determination and purpose that I am compelled to stay faithful to them for longer than a few days before I am searching for another candidate who might be a better match for me. LOL. But that doesn't mean it is an impossible mission for them to try. As far as practical matters go, I naturally take care of any and all expenses necessary for them to comfortably travel to and from my room to be with me, all expenses while we are together and other pocket money as needed. Nothing like the direct P4P girls to whom I would give 2,000-3,000 for all night. We're talking 200-300 baht kind of pocket money if they don't wave it off without even seeing how much it is. Maybe a minor shopping "spree" that sets me back 1,000-2,000 baht every few weeks.
In the case of the main GF I mentioned in this particular exchange, she has her own decent job and does not need me to support her financially. However, I offer her pocket money, say between 100-300 baht to cover costs of motorcycle taxi travel to and from me every week or so. Most of the time she pushes back those offers with a scowl. Not out of the question that she is trying to make me feel she isn't with me for the money, any amount of money, true or not. She has elbowed her way in to pick up the tab for a couple of things for both of us that cost a couple hundred baht. However, there was that 30,000 baht smart phone I bought her for her birthday! She'd been pining over that one and it was obvious she would not say no to that gift. If she lost her job and needed some monthly support until she got another job, I'd happily do it in her case. She has more than earned it.
I once had some other unknown urinary tract infection, and was tested, but never found out what it was or if could have been sexually transmitted. One buddy hooked up with low class girls in Bangkok and caught the Gonnor. In his first week here.A few years ago I had what the doctor only identified as Non-Specific Urethritis. He prescribed a two-day, four tablet antibiotic regime and it was gone. My dick was sore and there was slight pain on taking a leak (avoiding the coded words here) so I went to a clinic ASAP. Like you, he could not or would not relate it to sex except that I had the night before experienced one of those "rough", overly aggressive cowgirl riding ladies who did not want to stop her aggressive riding until she'd broken her previous orgasm record or something. I knew there was damage being done to my willy around the 15 minute mark but didn't have the heart to say honey we're done. Went on for another 10 minutes at least.
When guys write that such things are impossible, it makes them look just a little bit jealous, or feeling too superior. It must be impossible for MP to get better than me, right?Most guys who write reports aren't doing it to share information. In fact, most guys just don't share info and keep the good looking girls for themselves, as a secret. The guys who write reports (this is a free website, you get what you pay for) tend to be self-absorbed narcissists, myself included. They are addicted to external validation from both the girls and the boys. They need to be seen as important because they are unable to view themselves internally as such. Oh and these manipulative gold digging hoes can spot a narcissist a mile away, even if the said hoe is self-absorbed herself. Just having sex isn't enough for some members, they need the hooker to "like" them as well or use "game" without understand that said hooker is just stringing them along to massage their ego (for a fee).
So these p4 p workers are used to dealing with various "kinds" of guys and will put a guy into one such category within seconds of meeting. The 2 biggest I can think of are: guy who needs just sex and guy who needs validation. They have so much experience dealing with so many different guys, it becomes obvious to them which is which and how to proceed with a script. They know how to distance emotional / aggressive types and set up boundaries, string emotionally weak guys on with validation (pretending to like them, going into GFE mode which is fake mostly but the guy thinks it's real), and give guys who just want sex just sex and little talking. They aren't stupid, at least not socially or at that aspect of their job.
I think with reading reports, it's having to deal with people. You have to know the types and know what's going on technically. Know what type of person some is to get an idea and overall gist of what they're saying. Because, people rarely ever speak the truth, even to themselves. All these reports are lies and you have to read in-between the lines and make your own informed (Hopefully) observations to pry information out. Honestly, people just don't like being honest. And I'd reckon to say most all of us, all human beings, have difficulty with grey areas, white-lies, misinformation. People are so accustomed to needing black or white facts.
Most guys who write reports aren't doing it to share information. In fact, most guys just don't share info and keep the good looking girls for themselves, as a secret. The guys who write reports (this is a free website, you get what you pay for) tend to be self-absorbed narcissists, myself included. They are addicted to external validation from both the girls and the boys. They need to be seen as important because they are unable to view themselves internally as such. Oh and these manipulative gold digging hoes can spot a narcissist a mile away, even if the said hoe is self-absorbed herself. Just having sex isn't enough for some members, they need the hooker to "like" them as well or use "game" without understand that said hooker is just stringing them along to massage their ego (for a fee).
So these p4 p workers are used to dealing with various "kinds" of guys and will put a guy into one such category within seconds of meeting. The 2 biggest I can think of are: guy who needs just sex and guy who needs validation. They have so much experience dealing with so many different guys, it becomes obvious to them which is which and how to proceed with a script. They know how to distance emotional / aggressive types and set up boundaries, string emotionally weak guys on with validation (pretending to like them, going into GFE mode which is fake mostly but the guy thinks it's real), and give guys who just want sex just sex and little talking. They aren't stupid, at least not socially or at that aspect of their job.
I think with reading reports, it's having to deal with people. You have to know the types and know what's going on technically. Know what type of person some is to get an idea and overall gist of what they're saying. Because, people rarely ever speak the truth, even to themselves. All these reports are lies and you have to read in-between the lines and make your own informed (Hopefully) observations to pry information out. Honestly, people just don't like being honest. And I'd reckon to say most all of us, all human beings, have difficulty with grey areas, white-lies, misinformation. People are so accustomed to needing black or white facts.Interesting post. I agree with much of it. I am one of those members here who does not write many detailed reports about what happened in the bed or alone in the room with this specific girl or that one. But I won't proudly declare that is because I am NOT a "self-absorbed narcissist" or have those tendencies as much as others. For my side of it, I can only say I don't write those kinds of detailed reports because I honestly can't remember exactly when I put which appendage into which orifice, whose legs went this way or that, at what moment I flipped her over and stuff like that. I'm pretty much in the moment when those things are happening and not thinking about how this will look in print.
I am amazed guys remember exact names and badge numbers of girls in the first bar they entered 6 hours before they finally chose another girl in another bar, not to mention the names and badge numbers of girls they bought lady drinks for a week earlier or banged a month earlier! Then again, as you say, maybe some of that "flipped her over" stuff is more literary drama than actual reportage.
Banana Boi
09-17-18, 07:44
I tend to agree with Parkville as well if I didn't misunderstand the gist of his post. I am also one who does not write specifics of what I did with a girl. I try to keep my comments factual and let guys know what bar / area is hot and what is not. There are some posters on here who just post about their successes and imo it comes across as bragging. Oddly these guys never have poor experiences either. It's not difficult to figure out who these guys are. Sometimes I touch a nerve of some members like I did in the Jakarta thread when I said Malioboro had many 40 year old ladies or something like that and the member accused me that I have never set foot in Malioboro.
Yes, I keep some places I go to very close to the vest and do not divulge that information on here.
Consequently, for this purpose it must be understood from either an agreement beforehand or past experience with the girl that she will swallow and not spit. Swallowing at the end without her making sure you were aware that she would swallow at the end is kind of a wasted opportunity. Maybe it's a nice surprise, but hardly enhances anything in terms of pleasure for the reasons I just stated. It essentially misses and denies the whole point of swallowing at the end instead of spitting.I 've met a few girls that swallowed and I have to admit that I liked it. Maybe it gives more intimacy with the girl or something like that. But these girls did it because they liked it and they didn't told me beforehand. It's a bit exciting, the moment you've just CIM and look at her being curious, will she swallow or is she going to spit or worst run in the bathroom? It's always been a good surprise for me when they would swallow. But it's been a long time that I didn't met any girl that swallows, I now tend to ask them (only to girls that I see after many sessions) but most of the time it's a no go, I try to persuade them very briefly, but then I don't insist much on it. I guess that I would probably like it less than if she takes the lead and does it by herself without talking about it first.
This thread was started for you. Go for it.The post from MP that you are quoting was originally posted in the Pattaya thread and not in this new thread. It was moved by the admin. You can see that if you go back to the very beginning of this thread.
The photos of various girls in a room with teddy bears and eating what appears to be home cooked meals is proof enough for me. He is a young, wealthy, Asian guy so why is it hard to believe he gets the top go go girls? While there may be some embellishment and some of his methods disagreeable, I find it obvious The Paw isn't just a talker / dreamer. Several members here, both new and old (and respected), have met him in person. He has reached out to first timers and spent time with them which is a good thing. I find his posts helpful, interesting, and above all entertaining. Not many individual posters get a thread dedicated to them so The Paw obviously interests others as well. Don't get too worked up about anything you read in this forum.It's not hard to believe that he gets the top go go girls because he's indeed posting pictures of them and several members have met him in person. However I think there's not 'some' embellishment in his stories, like you say, but quite a lot. So when he posted a story in the Pattaya thread about this really pretty girl Ning, and all the things he had done with her in bed, and claimed he found her on Beach Road, I made the following remark:
"I think we need a new thread called "Erotic stories and other fantasies". The days you could find a girl like that on Beach Road are long gone."
To my surprise the admin did indeed start a new thread called "Stupid Shit in Thailand" (the title wouldn't have been my choice LOL). Since then things have gotten a little bit out of control, because originally I was only expressing my doubts about the location where he picked up Ning.
To my surprise the admin did indeed start a new thread called "Stupid Shit in Thailand" (the title wouldn't have been my choice LOL). Since then things have gotten a little bit out of control, because originally I was only expressing my doubts about the location where he picked up Ning.I saw others "stupid shit thread" coming out maybe at the same time (at least one for Medellin) so it was probably not a thread for talking about MP. It's you guys that made it his thread by talking only about him. As far as I'm concerned I saw a few suspicious probable BS in some of his posts but I find them entertaining and as he said, at least he provides reports. I would add that his last posts are also quite funny to read.
It's not hard to believe that he gets the top go go girls because he's indeed posting pictures of them and several members have met him in person. However I think there's not 'some' embellishment in his stories, like you say, but quite a lot. So when he posted a story in the Pattaya thread about this really pretty girl Ning, and all the things he had done with her in bed, and claimed he found her on Beach Road, I made the following remark:
"I think we need a new thread called "Erotic stories and other fantasies". The days you could find a girl like that on Beach Road are long gone."
To my surprise the admin did indeed start a new thread called "Stupid Shit in Thailand" (the title wouldn't have been my choice LOL). Since then things have gotten a little bit out of control, because originally I was only expressing my doubts about the location where he picked up Ning.If he is a big time and frequent visitor at gogos, then I am sure the gogo girls have info about him on their secret facebook groups. Just like how he / we shares pictures of girls, the girls share pictures / reviews of guys. I have no idea how this system works from their perspective, but I know for a fact that bargirls have a huge gossip mill online. It usually works by posting a picture of a guy if they know he goes to a certain city / soi like "do any one here know this guy __picture__ with __name__ ?" Or if the guy is really popular, he will have a dedicated thread. I wonder if his stories here match up with the stories that they write about him 5555.
What I do know about these things is they share details like name, occupation, duration, what condo you stay in (hint hint they ALL know where you live if you ever invite 1 over), if you are cheap, how long you last in bed, how good you are in bed, and if you are creepy, etc etc etc. Mostly they will review guys the same way we review girls.
To me, what's stupid shit is you guys spending hours and brain cells and been with discussing who, what, where, how and why of dudes looking to bang prostitutes. I'm in the camp just providing information, not a blow-by-blow description. That being said, I always found mr. Paws posts to be well written and frequently amusing.
That further being said, you can view my opinion as coming from a guy whose idea of mongering is blowing a load in 15 minutes or less, and then go find something more important to do.
Franciscass
09-18-18, 00:05
What I do know about these things is they share details like name, occupation, duration, what condo you stay in (hint hint they ALL know where you live if you ever invite 1 over), if you are cheap, how long you last in bed, how good you are in bed, and if you are creepy, etc etc etc. Mostly they will review guys the same way we review girls.Now there's a book I'd like to read. Since seeing your post out of curiosity I did some checking with some regulars here in Bangkok and alas can find none that either keep or share the kind of detail you mention. I'm not familiar with Pattaya which is obviously a more tight knit expat community and where it may make sense for the girls to know the M. O. Of regular punters but apparently at least with the girls I know it doesn't seem to happen in Bangkok. Then again who knows maybe it does and it's a well-kept secret. Would love to know my ratings if so.
Now there's a book I'd like to read. Since seeing your post out of curiosity I did some checking with some regulars here in Bangkok and alas can find none that either keep or share the kind of detail you mention. I'm not familiar with Pattaya which is obviously a more tight knit expat community and where it may make sense for the girls to know the M. O. Of regular punters but apparently at least with the girls I know it doesn't seem to happen in Bangkok. Then again who knows maybe it does and it's a well-kept secret. Would love to know my ratings if so.It's all in Thai and youth slang, which is the kind which is impossible for google translate to even compute. Any girl will easily deny it, as it is a strict rule to do so. And there isn't 1 single group or even a small handful of groups. There are tons of groups and line chats. Many of them have advertisements about work positions (bar, salary, etc). Some with scams / [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) about going to Singapore. From what I've seen, it's mostly business, then there are the customer ones. These girls are more interested in their Thai BF's, they are not gossiping about customers per se. They are really just posting alerts about what customers are going where and when (business info), and if he is bad / red flag and mostly if he is cheap. It's mostly all business, not so much personal gossipping. But of course, the power of Thai gossip is strong so the business aspect (flagging bad customers) easily spills into drama / gossip as well. So of course, based on what I have heard from mongers, they also talk about gossip stuff like how good he is in bed as well.
Me personally, I couldn't bear to look at such stuff. It's just so uh. Specific to thai's and pretty mundane and it isn't laid out as an easy to browse forum. As usual tech in thailand is like 20 years behind, they do everything in new posts and direct messages. So instead of searching for something, they just post a new thread asking people directly if they know someone and then get results by direct messaging each time. It's really more of a gossip machine / chat.
Most guys who write reports aren't doing it to share information. In fact, most guys just don't share info and keep the good looking girls for themselves, as a secret. The guys who write reports (this is a free website, you get what you pay for) tend to be self-absorbed narcissists, myself included. They are addicted to external validation from both the girls and the boys. They need to be seen as important because they are unable to view themselves internally as such. Oh and these manipulative gold digging hoes can spot a narcissist a mile away, even if the said hoe is self-absorbed herself. Just having sex isn't enough for some members, they need the hooker to "like" them as well or use "game" without understand that said hooker is just stringing them along to massage their ego (for a fee).
Why do you care so much about the other guys motives, to make a post, and include the girl pics? His own view of his behaviour might be quite different to your assumptions. Better to analyse yourself as you do.
Could the pics be a form of "bragging" like look how hot my chicks are, so hot that you other guys can't even believe it. I don't really feel the need to decide what his motives were. More like is the information or post funny, entertaining, or any useful info? I don't really care if he has an ego or very confident in him self. I am not keen on those who write very condescending type stuff though, or negative all the time. If he writes about how he has his fun, or what he doesn't like, that is fine for me. It is great he has little concern about the forum posters and does his own thing. I like MPs pics even if they are ill advised, as many other pics appeared that were not worth viewing. He sets a higher standard.
Lets face it. Some of us are bored and have nothing better to do than make some posts. We can easily disappear when we have better things to do or other priorities. Looking at the better side, some guys feel they should share information, to let others experience interesting places too. We are not all jealously guarding our secrets.
The biggest reason for secrecy in the case of many, would be fear of being identified when girl reads the post. Many times I went too far with the detail. Another reason guys don't share, is they are scared to attract psycho cases to their favourite lovely girl. LOL Girls mention the weird shit that customers pull, perhaps I hear a lot more about psycho cases than the normal ones. Some guys have not yet been burned by divulging too much, but they will be.
Everyone can choose which posts or posters they wish to read. Hopefully choose the ones you like, guys. Plenty don't like my posts so don't have to read them. I skip posts too.
I love to criticise guys that are overly negative in their posts particularly when replying to what other posters wrote about their experiences. So knock the knockers.
Seems to have been a history of people second guessing someone else's experiences.
I think Monkeypaw is a top poster in some ways with a good attitude. He posts experiences, where he offers more than so many others. I am only jealous because I don't have much exciting experiences of something new or different to offer. I am stuck repeating same things as before. Yeh could be fun for a stodgy old cout like me to tag along with the Monkey Paw once or twice to see something different.
I saw others "stupid shit thread" coming out maybe at the same time (at least one for Medellin) so it was probably not a thread for talking about MP. It's you guys that made it his thread by talking only about him.You could be right. This is what the admin of the Colombia forum wrote when he started that thread:
"Stupid shit in Medellin.
I've been trying to use the Medellin forum while I'm here and for some reason some of you guys seem to think that criticizing or reviewing other guys posts on the pussy threads is what this forum is about. It's not, and doing that creates and environment that inhibits growth of the forum because seriously people don't want to deal with your bullshit.
So here's the deal, post it here. You can post all of that stupid, idiotic shit here. The "Medellin Reports" thread is now criticism free.
A2".
However the admin that started this 'Stupid Shit in Thailand' thread did not explain why he started it. So dear admin, if your intentions are the same as the Colombia admin then please make that clear to us. Then from now on anyone can post all kinds of fantasies and made up shit in the pussy threads (I suppose that means the review and field report threads) and if other board members (including seriously people) have comments or doubts they should post that in the 'Stupid Shit in Thailand' thread. Yeah, that makes sense.
Why do you care so much about the other guys motives.As an expat who has been here for 6 years and ran into all types again and again, I am weary of rich trust-fund kids. They have common traits of being self centered and seeing people as objects. I do not personally value them on a social level honestly. So I consider most of what he writes to be too out of touch with reality. He is in the upper echelon of wealth, but not by earning it, but by having his diiaper changed by his rich parents service staff all his life.
I think Monkeypaw is a top poster in some ways with a good attitude. He posts experiences, where he offers more than so many others. I am only jealous because I don't have much exciting experiences of something new or different to offer. I am stuck repeating same things as before. Yeh could be fun for a stodgy old cout like me to tag along with the Monkey Paw once or twice to see something different.Really, Syzy? You could see yourself going along with a guy who claims to have met a "gem" on Pattaya's Beach Road but could not tell if it would be worth 1,000 baht for two hours with her because her "skimpy shorts and t-shirt" hide too much of her body to get a good idea what's underneath? Good lord, does he usually only take FLs who stand stark naked on the street corner?
When I first saw her standing outside, I noticed Ning had a cute face and light skinned but unsure of how her body would be underneath her skimpy shorts and t shirt. But later I found out with clothes off, that her body was very sexy, with a flat stomach, nice round ass and big firm enhanced tits.I see he is still writing these fantasy sex tales like a dude who has never actually experienced a P4P session in Thailand's usual tourist areas but has a vague notion what a "hot" one might be like if he ever did someday. I realize there is no doubt he pays girl to go to his room for a photo session. But the sex passages are way out there and seem only to be wishful fantasy.
And, frankly, I am surprised you seem to be lending credibility to him and actually suggesting you of all people might go along for the ride if he can also hook you up with a Beach Road "gem" who will accept 1,000 baht for a two hour ST including full deep throat cum swallowing and who might even go for a 1 hour ST version of it for only 500 baht. LOL. I'd love to be a fly on the wall when you, Syzygies, and such a hardcore Pattaya street walking "gem" are left alone in the room after that deal has been agreed to and struck.
Mr Enternational
09-18-18, 12:01
As an expat who has been here for 6 years and ran into all types again and again, I am weary of rich trust-fund kids. They have common traits of being self centered and seeing people as objects. I do not personally value them on a social level honestly. So I consider most of what he writes to be too out of touch with reality. He is in the upper echelon of wealth, but not by earning it, but by having his diiaper changed by his rich parents service staff all his life.Even still, where are the lies in his posts? Nobody is in the bedroom with this guy and why would you care? One of the main principles in mongering is that YMMV. But I have noticed over the years that in many cases if your mileage is different from someone else's then that person is assumed to be lying, which is not necessarily the case.
It seems that you already have preconceived notions of him. I don't see what the big deal is. He talks of going to pick up hookers and paying them. He posts their names and bar numbers. Besides there are other board members that have met him. So besides that he has money and he does some things outside is what considered the norm, why the animosity toward him?
MP reports have more information than 90% of the other reports.
Mr Enternational
09-18-18, 12:58
If he is a big time and frequent visitor at gogos, then I am sure the gogo girls have info about him on their secret facebook groups. Just like how he / we shares pictures of girls, the girls share pictures / reviews of guys. I have no idea how this system works from their perspective, but I know for a fact that bargirls have a huge gossip mill online. It usually works by posting a picture of a guy if they know he goes to a certain city / soi like "do any one here know this guy __picture__ with __name__ ?"1 a. If it is so secret how do you know about it?
1 b. You know there is a system, but know nothing about it? I know there are aliens and I know nothing about them either.
2. The girls are not going out soliciting, so there is no reason for them to keep "files" on customers. They are cooped up in the bar and the customer comes to find them. They are not cold calling customers based on some gathered data.
3. There are only so many girls in the venues. There are too many customers to count that come through the bars. Easy for us to talk about girl number 123 in such and such bar. Imagine them trying to discuss Henry from Coventry. Is this the Henry with brown hair or the Henry that walks with a limp?
4. When is the last time you saw a hooker whip her phone out to take a picture of a trick?
5. It is hard enough trying to deal with 1 of those chicks at a time. Dealing with more than 1 at a time is like herding cats. Do you really believe that uneducated hookers are as organized to conduct such an undertaking?
6. The only thing these chicks are concerned with from a customer is getting money. They are not trying to sort through all kinds of other trick theory and bullshit algorithms as many mongers try to do. That is too much like work. And the reason they are hookers in the first place is because they are allergic to work. They keep it simple: go with man for money.
7. You really think they do not have anything better to do than talk about falang johns? Sure they are gossiping, but you would have to have a pretty big ego to believe the gossip was about us. After you have given them money you have served your purpose. They are not wasting brain cells on you past that. They have more important Thai shit to do.
PedroMorales
09-18-18, 14:52
1 a. If it is so secret how do you know about it?
4. When is the last time you saw a hooker whip her phone out to take a picture of a trick?
5. It is hard enough trying to deal with 1 of those chicks at a time. Dealing with more than 1 at a time is like herding cats. Do you really believe that uneducated hookers are as organized to conduct such an undertaking?
6. The only thing these chicks are concerned with from a customer is getting money. They are not trying to sort through all kinds of other trick theory and bullshit algorithms as many mongers try to do. That is too much like work. And the reason they are hookers in the first place is because they are allergic to work. They keep it simple: go with man for money..Ha ha. You have this down to a tee. Thanks for the laugh. Excellent post.
Blanquiceleste
09-18-18, 16:00
Even still, where are the lies in his posts?
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So besides that he has money and he does some things outside is what considered the norm, why the animosity toward him?I can only say that the poor depraved souls are blinded by envy and hatred, just by the thought that someone else is having a ball while they are stuck behind a keyboard fantasizing about 19 yo with shaved pussies who will do BBBJ + CIM and swallow and BBFS. Hyuk!
Blanquiceleste
09-18-18, 16:06
As an expat who has been here for 6 years and ran into all types again and again, I am weary of rich trust-fund kids. They have common traits of being self centered and seeing people as objects. I do not personally value them on a social level honestly. So I consider most of what he writes to be too out of touch with reality. He is in the upper echelon of wealth, but not by earning it, but by having his diiaper changed by his rich parents service staff all his life.Not in response to this post specifically, but I think when one is part of the picture its probably impossible to see the frame.
On the Chiang Mai thread there is an active discussion underway about some chap visiting CM who has claimed to find a real cutie on a dating site. Complete with a pic. And a long time resident has responded to that in a way quite similar to what is going down in this thread.
I think there ought to be a name to describe this behavior. I would probably call it BDDS. Bitter, Disillusioned, Disenfranchised Syndrome.
I can only say that the poor depraved souls are blinded by envy and hatred, just by the thought that someone else is having a ball while they are stuck behind a keyboard fantasizing about 19 yo with shaved pussies who will do BBBJ + CIM and swallow and BBFS. Hyuk!LOL. Yeah, that Hyuk! was exactly the reaction MP initially had to the idea of anyone expecting or engaging in that kind of behavior with P4P Thai girls, especially someone of high quality standards such as him, until some of us oldtimers pointed out he ought to be getting at least that for the amount of money he claimed to spend. After all, most of us were getting that with perfectly decent if not better girls for far less baht. Now look at his "reports". They're loaded with graphic details about such things. You might have it backwards about who was envious of whom.
MP reports have more information than 90% of the other reports.I am always ready to give props and kudos to anyone providing actionable information. But I'm not sure many guys need to be told where and how to rack up 100,000 baht bar tabs in a single location, even if they just stumbled off the plane at Suvarnabhumi Airport for their first visit to Thailand.
And on the issue of actionable P4P leads, I am not one to give exact names, badge numbers, required baht amounts for BBFS, wild times and so on. But MP certainly is and one might expect several follow up reports from guys who have taken those exact names, badge numbers, etc. and gotten something like the same results. Have you done one? I can only recall one such follow up report. Maybe there have been dozens and I apologize in advance for having missed them. One would think a dozen or so would be about right considering the frequency with which MP cites those exact details.
The only one such follow up report I can recall was a poster who MP took under his wing, arranged a special introduction of him to one of MP's favorite "Top Quality" girls and, lo and behold and darn the luck but if that girl didn't come down with her monthly menses that very night. Totally unexpected since she had only gotten it 28 days before and 28 days before that and, well, who could have predicted such a thing. Apparently, it didn't occur to her to offer one of those "deep throat, cum swallowing" blowjobs MP seems to start getting with his "gems" and "Top Quality" girls before the hotel room door closes behind him. So the guy just ponied up for the drink tab or whatever and everyone went their separate ways.
Again, maybe I've missed all the other follow up reports from guys who have matched the names, badge numbers, baht amounts, disco locations, etc. provided by MP and gotten something quite close to the results he claims to get in his "reports". Results of a sexual nature, I mean, not of a super high bar tab nature.
Even still, where are the lies in his posts? Nobody is in the bedroom with this guy and why would you care?His only post I had problems with was when he stated that there are mamasans / pappasans at Hooters. Fairly certain there are none. Obviously, anyone can get a girl (given enough charm or money). Maybe he got confused thinking the guy was a pappasan instead of a friend of the girl he took. If BB said he didn't meet him, I would have put him in my dubious category list.
I would care if I went around Hooters asking for the mamasan.
Another post was Ning. It's extremely difficult to get CIM on Beach Road; swallow seems impossible (But I have never offered a tip...wondering how many will accept). I also have never found the "diamond in the rough" on Pattaya's Beach Road. But I am only out on Beach Road for 1 hour a day for around 7 days a year on my health walk. Obviously, there are unique cases, but those cannot last a long time.
I like his posts because he gives the names of the bars and girls. I will attempt to check them out the next time I am in Thailand.
Beijing4987
09-18-18, 17:50
The working girls are the ones with "game" And they have the "power" to say No! Parkville has adequately described the motivations on both sides of the equation. At least the Bangkok thread has less fantasy posts for now.
Mr Enternational
09-18-18, 17:50
It's extremely difficult to get CIM on Beach Road; swallow seems impossible (But I have never offered a tip...wondering how many will accept).I am not a stickler and never have to have a certain thing when it comes to sex. Instead of breaking out a list of things I want a girl to do, I just usually go with the flow. When I feel that I want to skeet in a chick's mouth then I just say give me your mouth and commence to skeeting into it.
I am not a stickler and never have to have a certain thing when it comes to sex. Instead of breaking out a list of things I want a girl to do, I just usually go with the flow. When I feel that I want to skeet in a chick's mouth then I just say give me your mouth and commence to skeeting into it.I'm happy I'm not the only one who doesn't ask permission. LOL. I usually say " I'm cumming" and point my dick to their mouth. Works every time.
I am not a stickler and never have to have a certain thing when it comes to sex. Instead of breaking out a list of things I want a girl to do, I just usually go with the flow. When I feel that I want to skeet in a chick's mouth then I just say give me your mouth and commence to skeeting into it.Haha. Sure, I've done that, too. But when I've done it it's a BBFS+CIM and not really a BBBJ+CIM. Which, if we get a tad bit more technical, I'm guessing turns out to be for you as it was for me much closer to masturbating into (or, far more likely, onto) the girl's mouth in a big hurry at the end. Much like a COB or COF I suppose, although I've never bothered to go for either one of those.
Congrats to you if instead at that moment all or most of your girls dive on your dick and start pumping it with mouth wrapped around tightly and keep it wrapped around tightly until the last squirt. But I'll go out on a limb here and conclude that is not even close to what happens all or most of the time, right? With new, untested for that event girls, I mean. You never or almost never get the slightest cum dodge, head turn or pursed lips welcome at such a moment? Again, congrats to you and others if you don't.
But for those of us who aren't going to spend much time or money in Thailand pulling out of vaginas at the crucial moment to masturbate ourselves to a finish no matter how close to the girl's mouth we can shoot it or even into it every now and then, that doesn't really replace getting a full and complete beginning-to-end BBBJ+CIM in my book.
BaddHabbit
09-19-18, 01:29
1 a. If it is so secret how do you know about it?
1 b. You know there is a system, but know nothing about it? I know there are aliens and I know nothing about them either.
2. The girls are not going out soliciting, so there is no reason for them to keep "files" on customers. They are cooped up in the bar and the customer comes to find them. They are not cold calling customers based on some gathered data.
3. There are only so many girls in the venues. There are too many customers to count that come through the bars. Easy for us to talk about girl number 123 in such and such bar. Imagine them trying to discuss Henry from Coventry. Is this the Henry with brown hair or the Henry that walks with a limp?
4. When is the last time you saw a hooker whip her phone out to take a picture of a trick?
5. It is hard enough trying to deal with 1 of those chicks at a time. Dealing with more than 1 at a time is like herding cats. Do you really believe that uneducated hookers are as organized to conduct such an undertaking?
6. The only thing these chicks are concerned with from a customer is getting money. They are not trying to sort through all kinds of other trick theory and bullshit algorithms as many mongers try to do. That is too much like work. And the reason they are hookers in the first place is because they are allergic to work. They keep it simple: go with man for money.
7. You really think they do not have anything better to do than talk about falang johns? Sure they are gossiping, but you would have to have a pretty big ego to believe the gossip was about us. After you have given them money you have served your purpose. They are not wasting brain cells on you past that. They have more important Thai shit to do.Actually, I have been shown part of one of these groups, and there are a number of them around, in many countries. As it was explained to me, it is mostly about helping girls avoid / be aware of dangerous customers.
Crocodilexp
09-19-18, 02:51
Instead of breaking out a list of things I want a girl to do, I just usually go with the flow.I think negotiating a laundry list with a hooker is useless, with very few exceptions, such as BBBJ or anal. You can ask ahead of time if she does certain things, but that's no guarantee it will happen to your liking once you're in the room.
Asking for CIM is one of those uncertain things: unless the girl really wants your repeat business, she can always pull away at the last moment, and would NOT be within your rights to deny her payment for doing that.
We're fortunate Thai hookers tend to be generous: stuff like a BBBJ, getting undressed, not being impolitely rushed, and not showing open disdain for the customer is still the norm. That is not the case in many (most?) pay-for-play markets. For instance, in most places, any kind of BJ is not a given unless agreed upfront, and in Amsterdam, you have to pay extra for taking of the bra.
My reglar Massage w BBBJ gal would happily take me deep and let me shoot, but dang if she'the never ever swallow. Always politely removed herself from our bed, mouth closed to hold my seed, then spit quietly in the bathroom. Nana condos but she's since moved back upcountry.
I'm happy I'm not the only one who doesn't ask permission. LOL. I usually say " I'm cumming" and point my dick to their mouth. Works every time.
Asking for CIM is one of those uncertain things: unless the girl really wants your repeat business, she can always pull away at the last moment, and would NOT be within your rights to deny her payment for doing that.IMO, it would be within your rights to deny payment if she had agreed to no payment for failure to do so. I have done that with girls who want a second chance to "make you happy" and finish it properly. Good time to add Cum Swallowing to the deal as well. In fact, I won't give a second chance unless that no payment if tricked again deal has been struck. And I have given quite a few second chances with very happy results for me. And third and fourth chances as well under the same conditions. Once tricked on the CIM agreement, I will not neglect to add the "no payment" clause in the discussion in subsequent meetings.
Mr Enternational
09-19-18, 03:07
Congrats to you if instead at that moment all or most of your girls dive on your dick and start pumping it with mouth wrapped around tightly and keep it wrapped around tightly until the last squirt. But I'll go out on a limb here and conclude that is not even close to what happens all or most of the time, right? With new, untested for that event girls, I mean. You never or almost never get the slightest cum dodge, head turn or pursed lips welcome at such a moment? Again, congrats to you and others if you don't.I have never known a chick in Thailand to try to dodge it. And these are mixed pros and nonpros that I am talking about. But like you said I don't think many will swallow it. I do remember my neighbor swallowing though and then falling asleep. And whenever a chick licks my ass she is generally a swallower too. It is not something that I keep tabs on because like I said it does not matter to me one way or the other. It is always just a spur of the moment go with the flow thing.
Chicks that don't swallow I always hold them down and tickle them before they can run to the bathroom. They will fight to kill to get you to let them up and run to the toilet. But I'm like you have already swallowed the elephant; no sense in choking on the tail. Once when I shot a load in my girlfriend in the Philippines mouth she started crying after. It was her first time and she really did not like it. I felt bad.
I have never known a chick in Thailand to try to dodge it.That is quite a statement, Mr. E.
May I ask out of how many different Thai women you have engaged in this never fail, never try to dodge CIM technique of yours so I can be even more astonished and amazed by your response?
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You might have it backwards about who was envious of whom.
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Again, maybe I've missed all the other follow up reports from guys who have matched the names, badge numbers, baht amounts, disco locations, etc. provided by MP and gotten something quite close to the results he claims to get in his "reports". Results of a sexual nature, I mean, not of a super high bar tab nature.Great analysis. As usual.
If he is a big time and frequent visitor at gogos, then I am sure the gogo girls have info about him on their secret facebook groups.
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1 a. If it is so secret how do you know about it?
1 b. You know there is a system, but know nothing about it? I know there are aliens and I know nothing about them either.
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Looking at some BMs here I think the aliens are already among us LOL. (I don't mean the both of you).
And we have ET of course (EihTooms).
It really wouldn't surprise me if these facebook groups exist. I can imagine that especially beer bar, massage and beach road girls like to gossip and exchange information about guys they frequently see during their long boring days / nights.
But for those of us who aren't going to spend much time or money in Thailand pulling out of vaginas at the crucial moment to masturbate ourselves to a finish no matter how close to the girl's mouth we can shoot it or even into it every now and then, that doesn't really replace getting a full and complete beginning-to-end BBBJ+CIM in my book.The only reason to pull it out, is if the girl does not want to cop the sperm. Only in porn does it need to be pulled out to see where the sperm goes, because they are making a video, and has to include as much degradation of the girl as possible to attract the extreme porn watchers. Where it goes is not an issue (in normal behaviour). Whether she wants to swallow or not is surely up to her. None of our business. We got our cum, hopefully without withdrawing but once the cum is out, what happens to it is of little concern. We got our orgasm already. We don't get to see where the garbage goes after the garbage has been taken away. The japanese woman at the condo was very upset that her garbage was in the garbage bins below and an old Thai women was sifting through that garbage to find what could be sold. Could easily find period blood or sperm in the trash, or bottles to sell. LOL In Thai culture they don't care. Only the Jap woman was so upset about it. Don't know why exactly (a cultural thing).
Like you I don't find that all Thai girls want to cop sperm directly in their pussy or mouth, and even less want to swallow. I never ask for a swallow as not my business (and seems a bit warped to me) but 90%+ spit it out (completely their right). Just like them, I don't want to drink it. Fortunately anal is not my thing, as very few girls are reporting to enjoy anal, and mainly only do it for guys who cum quick. So the odd girl said yes she does anal, but not for me. LOL I have been offered but I could count the number of times on one hand, and some of those offers were for extra payment.
I am sure a lot more girls would be into swallowing if there was a good money bonus. However I would never pay extra for it. Can't see any logical usefulness to it.
One girl was telling me about her freak customer that did want to drink the sperm. We both agreed he must be a bit psycho.
The only reason to pull it out, is if the girl does not want to cop the sperm. Only in porn does it need to be pulled out to see where the sperm goes, because they are making a video, and has to include as much degradation of the girl as possible to attract the extreme porn watchers. Where it goes is not an issue (in normal behaviour). Whether she wants to swallow or not is surely up to her. None of our business. We got our cum, hopefully without withdrawing but once the cum is out, what happens to it is of little concern. We got our orgasm already. We don't get to see where the garbage goes after the garbage has been taken away. The japanese woman at the condo was very upset that her garbage was in the garbage bins below and an old Thai women was sifting through that garbage to find what could be sold. Could easily find period blood or sperm in the trash, or bottles to sell. LOL In Thai culture they don't care. Only the Jap woman was so upset about it. Don't know why exactly (a cultural thing)..Years ago in NYC I got a free BJ because some trick wanted the girl to spit some other dudes cum in his mouth. OK. I'm game. Free BJs are the best.
PedroMorales
09-19-18, 10:36
The only reason to pull it out, is if the girl does not want to cop the sperm. Only in porn does it need to be pulled out to see where the sperm goes, because they are making a video, and has to include as much degradation of the girl as possible to attract the extreme porn watchers. Where it goes is not an issue (in normal behaviour). Whether she wants to swallow or not is surely up to her. None of our business. We got our cum, hopefully without withdrawing but once the cum is out, what happens to it is of little concern. We got our orgasm already. We don't get to see where the garbage goes after the garbage has been taken away. The japanese woman at the condo was very upset that her garbage was in the garbage bins below and an old Thai women was sifting through that garbage to find what could be sold. Could easily find period blood or sperm in the trash, or bottles to sell. LOL In Thai culture they don't care. Only the Jap woman was so upset about it. Don't know why exactly (a cultural thing).
Like you I don't find that all Thai girls want to cop sperm directly in their pussy or mouth, and even less want to swallow. I never ask for a swallow as not my business (and seems a bit warped to me) but 90%+ spit it out (completely their right). Just like them, I don't want to drink it. Fortunately anal is not my thing, as very few girls are reporting to enjoy anal, and mainly only do it for guys who cum quick. So the odd girl said yes she does anal, but not for me. LOL I have been offered but I could count the number of times on one hand, and some of those offers were for extra payment.
I am sure a lot more girls would be into swallowing if there was a good money bonus. However I would never pay extra for it. Can't see any logical usefulness to it.
One girl was telling me about her freak customer that did want to drink the sperm. We both agreed he must be a bit psycho.Because sperm is a high protein shake, women should really P4's (pay for swallow). Swal; lowing has the advantage of not staining the bed sheets. To imagine that CIM degrades and COH (cum on hair) or CON (cum on nose) does not only shows YMMV.
I doubt the Japanese woman bins her menstrual left overs. Most women flush such crap dowen the toilets and, along with wet wipes, they are a major source of plumbing problems. I do feel for the Japanese woman, not wanting the ferals to root around, rat like, in her discarded bags.
The increased demand for anal is, like the CIM, CON, COH things, a feature of today's virtual society where more mongers want the porno experience they previously jacked off to.
Where it goes is not an issue (in normal behaviour). Whether she wants to swallow or not is surely up to her. None of our business. We got our cum, hopefully without withdrawing but once the cum is out, what happens to it is of little concern. We got our orgasm already. We don't get to see where the garbage goes after the garbage has been taken away. Well, see that is where you and I definitely differ. I believe where my cum goes IS my business if she has agreed to make it go somewhere specific as a matter of OUR doing BUSINESS together. Not only in her mouth or down her throat and into her stomach, but in her pussy or up her butthole, in her ear or up her left nostril as well. I'm not going to say, hey, I "got my orgasm", who cares if at that moment she hopped off me, my dick came out of her pussy and I wound up jerking myself off just to get those last squirts out. Not if she and I both agreed that we would fuck bareback until my sperm / semen came into her pussy, I'm not. Will you?
No, there is no law requiring her to honor the BUSINESS deal we struck on that issue. She can hop off, pull away, run to the toilet to spit, do whatever her little heart desires when the time comes and I have nothing to say about it in that respect. Can't throw her in jail, won't be justified in beating her up or anything of the kind. But then I most certainly do reserve and will very likely exercise my right to deny paying her what I agreed to pay for wherever she previously agreed my cum would go.
And, believe it or not, not every woman thinks of sperm / semen as "garbage". At least many of my ladies have not. Unless they work hard to get actual street "garbage" up their snatch or into their mouths as many have even for no money at all with their partner's cum. I don't think of a woman's vaginal secretions as "garbage" and don't treat it as such when it lands in my mouth and slides down my throat when I purposely swallow it instead of spitting it out. Do you? Come on now, not every woman is so diametrically opposite to men in that regard.
That is quite a statement, Mr. E.
May I ask out of how many different Thai women you have engaged in this never fail, never try to dodge CIM technique of yours so I can be even more astonished and amazed by your response?Crickets?
Ok. See, this is why we have to challenge at least some of these tall tale fantasy sex scenarios and bring them back down to earth. Not to kill anyone's buzz, but because it does no one, newbies, oldtimers, the business and market in general any good to let these "Can You Top This" fantasy scenarios go on and on and thereby promote the idea that you, MP, Johnny Depp, Leonardo DiCaprio or, yes, even I can easily meet, say, 10 Thai girls, five pros and five non pros and, first time out and unplanned, every one of them will probably provide a CIM finish without even dodging a little bit (or you name the sex scenario) just like that. Five pros not working in BJ Bars, that is.
Some dudes read that stuff and they either think there is something drastically wrong with them for not getting such results so readily or they are so disappointed they dump the whole idea of ever returning to Thailand. Assuming they are choosing girls they actually want to have sex with and not pathetic souls who must either go along with anything and everything or starve in the next couple of hours. Maybe that is fine with some, but I do believe it is not good for any of us in the long run. What actually does happen in Thailand with Thai girls is already pretty darn good. No need to come up with those high flying, never fail, never try to dodge, she started giving me a deep throat and then swallowed all of it and begged for more before I got my shoes off kind of stuff.
And there's another factor to consider. If we don't challenge these things (not saying ALL of them are impossible, just that some are worthy of a challenge), then we have no right to turn our derision on posters who out of the blue ask goofy questions like, "Which go-go bar has beautiful girls who will do anything without hassle for very little money and what time do they usually show up?" LOL. Little wonder some posters, especially first time poster lurkers, think this must be the land of conveyor belt 100% True GFE do anything, get anything on demand P4P girls after they've read some of MP and others' fantasy scenarios. We have to go back and reinvent the wheel every time one of those questions comes up and don't realize how some of us are actually encouraging such thinking by posting those fantasy scenarios.
Banana Boi
09-19-18, 12:09
I'm not a preacher of safe sex but this was an article from today.
Numbers higher than I thought. 16 new cases of reported aids per day. 1. 5 million reported infected. 15,000 reported deaths annually.
https://pattayaone.news/en/cases-aids-diagnosed/
According to that article 2. 3% of Thais have aids or hiv. That is a pretty hard statistic to believe. It would be hard for, me to believe that big a percentage of working girls yet alone the whole population. Or am I misreading it?
I'm not a preacher of safe sex but this was an article from today.
Numbers higher than I thought. 16 new cases of reported aids per day. 1. 5 million reported infected. 15,000 reported deaths annually.
https://pattayaone.news/en/cases-aids-diagnosed/
Mr Enternational
09-19-18, 14:02
That is quite a statement, Mr. E.
May I ask out of how many different Thai women you have engaged in this never fail, never try to dodge CIM technique of yours so I can be even more astonished and amazed by your response?Seiously man. You think I am out here counting women? Sure I did until I got to about 200. Now I am in the thousands. And you expect me to even single out counting Thai women over Brazilians, Colombians, Dominicans, Americans, and countless other nationalities that I have been with?
Once again your mileage may vary. Just because you can not do something does not mean it is a fantasy if someone else says they have done it. Hell, I can not do a backflip and I can not whistle or pop chewing gum, but that does not mean I believe that nobody else should be able to do it.
The other day there was a poster in the Dominican Republic thread asking how to approach women. I responded saying that I thought that would have been perfected in high school, but I guess not. Maybe he should have thought that since he was unskilled at it, then no other man on the planet could do it either.
The past two weeks when I was home in Pattaya I probably fucked 10 chicks and out of those 3 were P4P. Frankly I don't see what is so unbelievable about doing shit with women. They are not mythical beings. They are just people. The way you guys talk one would think someone was talking about having dinner with an alien.
Mr Enternational
09-19-18, 14:35
Jesus Christ. So you say it is not real life because you don't know what it feels like? I just asked various Thai chicks all of who I do not give money to and all 100% every single one said yes. In other words not 1 Thai free, non-pro Thai chick that I just asked said no when I asked if I can cum in their mouth next time. Again, I don't see what the big deal is. But do you now understand that not everything is so far fetched or unbelievable. Any disbelief after this and it should be assumed that you are just trolling.
Crickets?
Ok. See, this is why we have to challenge at least some of these tall tale fantasy sex scenarios and bring them back down to earth. Not to kill anyone's buzz, but because it does no one, newbies, oldtimers, the business and market in general any good to let these "Can You Top This" fantasy scenarios go on and on and thereby promote the idea that you, MP, Johnny Depp, Leonardo DiCaprio or, yes, even I can easily meet, say, 10 Thai girls, five pros and five non pros and, first time out and unplanned, every one of them will probably provide a CIM finish without even dodging a little bit (or you name the sex scenario) just like that. Five pros not working in BJ Bars, that is.
The past two weeks when I was home in Pattaya I probably fucked 10 chicks and out of those 3 were P4P. Frankly I don't see what is so unbelievable about doing shit with women. They are not mythical beings. They are just people. The way you guys talk one would think someone was talking about having dinner with an alien.I don't see anything hard to believe about that claim either. Seems to match mine fairly closely, except my number of non P4P might be typically higher by 1 these days. I suspect most sexually active guys would arrive at that number of different girls in a two week period in a farang area of Thailand unless they lived with a girl who kept close tabs on them.
And, truth be told, I have little doubt that if I tried your method I would achieve even more CIM endings than I do.
In fact, I'm sure if I said nothing about it, didn't "ask permission" and "held her down" at the point of penetration I would probably get a whole lot more BBFS than I do already, which isn't too bad a number as it is without doing it that way. Maybe my rate of success on that count would be as high as 100 out of 100. If I get past the first 12 without getting my ass thrown in a Thai prison, that is. Hehe.
Jesus Christ. So you say it is not real life because you don't know what it feels like? I just asked various Thai chicks all of who I do not give money to and all 100% every single one said yes. In other words not 1 Thai free, non-pro Thai chick that I just asked said no when I asked if I can cum in their mouth next time. Again, I don't see what the big deal is. But do you now understand that not everything is so far fetched or unbelievable. Any disbelief after this and it should be assumed that you are just trolling.Well, you're talking about girls you already have a sexual relationship with, right? Not exactly the point of our previous discussion.
And you're also talking about what they're telling you they will do "next time", not what they actually will do.
Get back to us after you've actually tried it with each one and let us know how many dodged a shot or two just a teeny tiny bit at the moment of truth.
BTW, how many Thai girls are you talking about again? 3? 10? 100?
Mr Enternational
09-19-18, 15:05
Well, you're talking about girls you already have a sexual relationship with, right? Not exactly the point of our previous discussion.
And you're also talking about what they're telling you they will do "next time", not what they actually will do.
Get back to us after you've actually tried it with each one and let us know how many dodged a shot or two just a teeny tiny bit at the moment of truth.
BTW, how many Thai girls are you talking about again? 3? 10? 100?I am not getting back to shit. It is obvious that you are just trolling.
I am not getting back to shit. It is obvious that you are just trolling.Funny, from my experience, I kind of thought anyone who would claim, "I have never known a chick in Thailand to try to dodge it" (CIM) was trolling. Unless they only knew 2-3 very carefully selected chicks in Thailand well enough to have tried it, of course.
But anything is possible I suppose, no matter how improbable.
Blanquiceleste
09-19-18, 16:11
I am not getting back to shit. It is obvious that you are just trolling.Mr E, as I said before, you cannot wake up a guy pretending to be asleep.
I'm not a preacher of safe sex but this was an article from today.
Numbers higher than I thought. 16 new cases of reported aids per day. 1. 5 million reported infected. 15,000 reported deaths annually.
https://pattayaone.news/en/cases-aids-diagnosed/According to Wikipedia there were 'only' 450,000 infected in 2016: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_HIV/AIDS_adult_prevalence_rate.
So in 2017 this has suddenly more than tripled? Something doesn't seem right. Or maybe the registration has been improved?
According to that article 2. 3% of Thais have aids or hiv. That is a pretty hard statistic to believe. It would be hard for, me to believe that big a percentage of working girls yet alone the whole population. Or am I misreading it?1. 5 million has to be in the whole population. Most numbers are estimates.
Remember that numbers are people that have mostly had Aids for a long time. New reported cases drops, but people having it long time, are dying less quickly than before, so total numbers can increase. The ones with Aids are just not going away unless they die, as almost zero are reported to be cured.
Aids (new cases) was on decline for many years, so that means people for a while may have been getting slightly more careful. Bear in mind, that gays and drug users will be a high proportion of the total, but still plenty of unlucky girls whether hookers or not. Used to be many rural house wives got Aids from their husbands. Every village has kids where both parents died of Aids already. Girls doing BBFS with large numbers of customers or dates for many years are almost bound to catch it eventually. The luck has to run out.
Girls doing it only with regular tested guys with a recent negative certificate run a lot less risk.
Guys tend to go blissfully thinking it is hard to catch from a girl with normal sex practices, however some will be caught out. Better with a hooker who has a recent test certificate too.
Personally I don't go looking for BBFS with lots of new girls just met. Consider ways to reduce your odds, till is more likely you will be struck by lightning or killed in an accident. Aids is not the only risk. Some STDs are caught very easily.
According to Wikipedia there were 'only' 450,000 infected in 2016: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_HIV/AIDS_adult_prevalence_rate.
So in 2017 this has suddenly more than tripled? Something doesn't seem right. Or maybe the registration has been improved?The way the numbers and percentages are featured in the PattayaOne report makes it seems to me they are trying to present them to ensure maximum alarm. Perhaps for a presumed greater good. But the breakdown for the vast majority of people having sex in Thailand, even P4P sex in Thailand, would likely be far less alarming than it reads here.
"Meanwhile, figures from the Aids, Tuberculosis and Sexually Transmitted Infections Control Division under the Health Department of the Bangkok Metropolitan Administration show that 80% of HIV infections in Bangkok are transmitted through sexual intercourse."
How are they defining "sexual intercourse" in this study? Is it as it appears in many dictionaries, "Sexual contact between individuals involving penetration", which could include anal intercourse and oral intercourse? Or is it as it appears in other dictionaries; intercourse for the purpose of procreation, which confines it to penile-vaginal sex? I am sure they have the breakdown for how many men likely acquired HIV as the result of penetrating a vagina vs their own anus being penetrated by another man's penis. And for how many co-factors existed such as not being circumcised or having an open sore on their penis during incidence of vaginal sex. Then why not publish them or give links to where you can read about it?
They don't even break it down between how many women acquired it "through sexual intercourse" vs how many men got it that way. But they could. And, BTW, how many cases of HIV infections showed up in Bangkok vs the rest of the country anyway? I mean, as long as they're citing that 80% figure for "sexual intercourse" transmission in Bangkok, why not tell us what that 80% figure is based on? Actually, one might conclude from this report that the vast majority of HIV transmissions they're talking about here were via needles and not through "sexual intercourse", but since they do have enough cases of it being transmitted sexually in Bangkok to be statistically significant, why not cite that 80% figure.
The vast majority of men having sex in Thailand as in the rest of the world would be vaginal intercourse with some oral genital contact accompanying it. Very rarely would receptive anal sex, taking it up their own butt, be on the menu for most men. I would guess that is true of almost every man reading these threads on this site. The more detailed studies for likely transmission show that it is very difficult and rare for a man to acquire HIV through vaginal intercourse and practically unheard of through oral sex, either giving or receiving. Yet we might read these kind of articles and our minds conjure up images of 16 dudes just like us being told by a nurse in some clinic in Bangkok and Pattaya each and every day of the year that they must have gotten HIV from going bareback with Noy or Nam a few months ago. Not hardly.
These are just some interesting facts to reflect on.
1. The first post in "Stupid Shit in Medellin was made by Admin and says "I've been trying to use the Medellin forum while I'm here and for some reason some of you guys seem to think that criticizing or reviewing other guys posts on the pussy threads is what this forum is about. It's not, and doing that creates and environment that inhibits growth of the forum because seriously people don't want to deal with your bullshit. ".
2. Wikipedia defines an internet troll as "In Internet slang, a troll is a person who starts quarrels or upsets people on the Internet to distract and sow discord by posting inflammatory and digressive, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community. "
3. So far this thread has 131 or so posts.
4. 36 of the 131 posts expresses negativity towards me, Monkeypaw.
5. 15 of the total 36 negative comments come from one user.
6. And another 12 of the 36 negative comments, come from a second user.
7. So if my math is correct 27 of the 36 or 75% of the negative comments about me, come from just 2 people.
8. The second post in "Stupid Shit in Thailand" was made by me, Monkeypaw as says ". I guess every board needs a troll or two that just complains or tries to tell others what to do and their opinion that they think counts. ".
9. I have yet to quarrel or argue with anybody in this thread.
10. God is great and works in mysterious ways.
Crickets?
Ok. See, this is why we have to challenge at least some of these tall tale fantasy sex scenarios and bring them back down to earth. Not to kill anyone's buzz, but because it does no one, newbies, oldtimers, the business and market in general any good to let these "Can You Top This" fantasy scenarios go on and on and thereby promote the idea that you, MP, Johnny Depp, Leonardo DiCaprio or, yes, even I can easily meet, say, 10 Thai girls, five pros and five non pros and, first time out and unplanned, every one of them will probably provide a CIM finish without even dodging a little bit (or you name the sex scenario) just like that. Five pros not working in BJ Bars, that is.
Some dudes read that stuff and they either think there is something drastically wrong with them for not getting such results so readily or they are so disappointed they dump the whole idea of ever returning to Thailand. Assuming they are choosing girls they actually want to have sex with and not pathetic souls who must either go along with anything and everything or starve in the next couple of hours. Maybe that is fine with some, but I do believe it is not good for any of us in the long run. What actually does happen in Thailand with Thai girls is already pretty darn good. No need to come up with those high flying, never fail, never try to dodge, she started giving me a deep throat and then swallowed all of it and begged for more before I got my shoes off kind of stuff.
And there's another factor to consider. If we don't challenge these things (not saying ALL of them are impossible, just that some are worthy of a challenge), then we have no right to turn our derision on posters who out of the blue ask goofy questions like, "Which go-go bar has beautiful girls who will do anything without hassle for very little money and what time do they usually show up?" LOL. Little wonder some posters, especially first time poster lurkers, think this must be the land of conveyor belt 100% True GFE do anything, get anything on demand P4P girls after they've read some of MP and others' fantasy scenarios. We have to go back and reinvent the wheel every time one of those questions comes up and don't realize how some of us are actually encouraging such thinking by posting those fantasy scenarios.I think the difference between these guys who do get what you question, and guys who do not get it, is that the guys who do get it are what some people call "naturals". Guys who had a pretty active sex / date life back in Blighty, a life most of the other guys would be envious of as far as sex / dating was concerned.
When these naturals, with their experience and confidence come here, their experience will be quite different from that of Joe Average who may have dated one or two Sara Averages during a span of several years in Blighty.
What will happen is that most farangs that come here, at least once they get their bearings, will have a considerably more interesting date / sex life than back in Blighty. Be it with regular girls or p4 p girls, so there's no need to be discouraged.
Joe Average will have much more luck here, and so will Joe Natural. Joe Average here will be a bit closer to Joe Natural in Blighty. Joe Natural? He'll be closer to Joe Casanova here. And if Joe Natural involves in P4 P here, it'll be like shooting fish in a barrel for him. So in Thailand, like in Blighty, their experiences will be different, though better for both.
Chubby guy selling translation books on the sidewalk when phones do it faster and for free. He can't be making any money so how does he stay chubby?
Chubby guy selling translation books on the sidewalk when phones do it faster and for free. He can't be making any money so how does he stay chubby?How do you know he is not making money? Other than your guess that he isn't selling any books.
I think the difference between these guys who do get what you question, and guys who do not get it, is that the guys who do get it are what some people call "naturals". Guys who had a pretty active sex / date life back in Blighty, a life most of the other guys would be envious of as far as sex / dating was concerned.
When these naturals, with their experience and confidence come here, their experience will be quite different from that of Joe Average who may have dated one or two Sara Averages during a span of several years in Blighty.
What will happen is that most farangs that come here, at least once they get their bearings, will have a considerably more interesting date / sex life than back in Blighty. Be it with regular girls or p4 p girls, so there's no need to be discouraged.
Joe Average will have much more luck here, and so will Joe Natural. Joe Average here will be a bit closer to Joe Natural in Blighty. Joe Natural? He'll be closer to Joe Casanova here. And if Joe Natural involves in P4 P here, it'll be like shooting fish in a barrel for him. So in Thailand, like in Blighty, their experiences will be different, though better for both.Nice overview of a certain aspect of the scene here. However, I would add that the ladies here themselves are not starting from the same place or perspective as Blighty ladies. While there are some constants about women all over the world, there are enough cultural and financial situation differences between the women of Blighty and the women of Bangkok to turn a few assumptions upside down and sideways compared to how things work back home.
Don't ask me how I know, but a lot of Joe Average fellows might be surprised to discover they are more welcome and desirable to a whole bunch of Thai ladies than are many Joe Naturals-turned-Joe Casanovas. Non P4P girls avoid Joe Casanovas like the plague here. Or try to. Many regular Thai women are not only made personally uncomfortable being with a man they know can charm or maneuver his way around the ladies so successfully, they are also consummately aware that all of their relatives, friends and neighbors will see them, the lady, as a foolish moth flying into a blowtorch. She will not be seen as clever and attractive enough to have bagged a fantastic "catch", the envy of all her girlfriends in any way similar to what those Blightly biddies will gush over back home.
The P4P girls? Line ups might want Joe Casanova to choose them to put a feather in their cap about being "hot" enough to be thought a proper match for such a guy. They might want to be seen walking out of the bar with that guy just to show off that they are not only the girl of choice for beer belly old codgers, but for smooth charmers and "super stars" as well. And to make that happen, just being chosen and walking out with Joe Casanova that is, they might say just about anything the guy wants to hear because it is the being chosen and walking out with him that matters at this point, not what actually will occur in the hotel room. The fact that he didn't avert his eyes and reject her in front of her co-workers is already a minor victory. Walking out with him is the big prize.
Back in the hotel room? Joe Casanova will NOT likely be seen as a potential repeat customer. Why would he need to repeat any girl? In fact, what's the real harm in giving ol' Joe Casanova some of the laziest service ever doled out since, hey, not only is it not worth even trying to woo him as a repeat customer, but he is probably getting tons of great service and sex from beautiful girls all the time anyway. No real harm being done here, right? LOL. Except that can't be right if every P4P girl thinks that way. BTW, that is not too different from the way regular, non P4P girls that ol' Joe Casanova meets think, too. Why even try to give this guy great sex since he no doubt gets the best sex all the time from the most beautiful girls? LOL. And I can't possibly compete what what he has had anyway, so why even try. Again, most of that cannot be true if every girl he meets thinks that way.
When P4P freelancers look at Joe Casanova, they generally do NOT see a "customer". Perhaps not for any girl. He must have a lot of real girlfriends, why would he need to pay for sex? According to the P4P girl's way of thinking, that is. However, when they look at Joe Average, they see the word "customer" in huge neon. And if they get the impression they might just be the hottest, sexiest girl this guy has had in a long time if not ever, that will go a long way to giving them confidence and motivating them to give him a quality ride and inspire him to return to her over and over again for that special ride. Unlike Joe Casanova, Joe Average-now-Joe Natural might be worth wooing and impressing as a potential repeat customer.
There are definitely different challenges and results for the Joe Averages vs the Joe Naturals/Casanovas between Blighty and Bangkok, imo.
Franciscass
09-20-18, 14:13
The problem for ET is that he can't pop with a condom so he pays his money and takes his chances going BB. His getting regularly tested greatly reduces the risk of transmitting but is no protection against catching. I feel we can all agree there is some risk involved, the conversation seems to be about how great that is. Then there is the other argument, she doesn't have to. While yes it's between consenting adults I have always felt the girl is at a disadvantage, either from lack of information of the dangers, to her not caring, to her needing the money. When you break it down it's not advisable but understandable in situations where without going BB finishing in her pussy is a no show.
Mr Enternational
09-20-18, 14:26
In fact, what's the real harm in giving ol' Joe Casanova some of the laziest service ever doled out since, hey, not only is it not worth even trying to woo him as a repeat customer, but he is probably getting tons of great service and sex from beautiful girls all the time anyway, no real harm being done here, right?How do you give great sex? What is the definition of great sex? Couldn't someone follow all the directions and instructions of what you say and still not be able to deliver great sex even though they were trying? As has been said before, everybody is not good at everything. And this includes some people in the sex industry as well. So to assume that someone that you had never had sex with did not deliver great sex just to spite you is ridiculous.
I can count on two hands the chicks that deliberately were not trying and none of those were in Thailand. Off hand I would give that to a few Tijuana street girls and a chick at a $6 place in Ecuador. Hell, she was even talking on her phone while I was fucking her. When I called her on it, she said it is only 6 dollars. Well I could not disagree with that!
You think this chick got up and went to work in hopes of not doing a good job in order to spite everyone in the place?
http://m.worldstarhiphop.com/android/video.php?v=wshh9Vo2sPF0n0WPv1tj
How do you give great sex? What is the definition of great sex? Couldn't someone follow all the directions and instructions of what you say and still not be able to deliver great sex even though they were trying? As has been said before, everybody is not good at everything. And this includes some people in the sex industry as well. So to assume that someone that you had never had sex with did not deliver great sex just to spite you is ridiculous.Agreed. One additional factor is that we all enjoy different things so a skilled provider of either sex may be putting in plenty of effort but just not pressing the buttons of the recipient.
I've had friends recommend girls to me as hot and great performers only to find them not enjoyable. Similarly, girls that I have had a great time with have left friends wanting.
I guess the same could be said for timing. Some guys want to pump and run. Others want to dance and romance all night long.
How do you give great sex? What is the definition of great sex? Couldn't someone follow all the directions and instructions of what you say and still not be able to deliver great sex even though they were trying?
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So to assume that someone that you had never had sex with did not deliver great sex just to spite you is ridiculous.
I can count on two hands the chicks that deliberately were not trying and none of those were in Thailand. There are indeed only a few acts of a sexual nature (and that show up on typical sex services offered lists in the P4P industry) that a female can be truly or let's say technically bad at; BBBJ and BBBJ+CIM are the main ones. DFK to some degree. DT would likely be one but probably only bad in the sense that it is agreed to but not really done at all, perhaps similar to DFK in that respect. It's a lot harder for the "receiver" to be bad at fucking, anal sex, DATY or anything that is done TO her. However, there is certainly a way for a girl to be a bad fuck if she goes stiffed legged, is too wiggly or just generally uncooperative about getting into a position the man wants or needs to finish. Otherwise, it would just come down to demeanor and attitude negatively effecting the experience.
I will check this and other threads to find the post you're referring to about some girl not delivering great sex "just to spite" her customer so I can better reply to that one later. So far I haven't read about that.
I don't know, Mr. E, I see your recent mission is to suggest there is something peculiar and unique about someone like me who would claim there are actually a lot of cum dodgers among Thai girls with regard to a CIM finish or that there is such a thing as getting bad sex through lack of conscientious effort from Thai girls. Instead, I would say your claimed experience is the unique one. To suggest that there are no cum dodgers with regard to a CIM finish among Thai women, that they don't even try to dodge it, and if a guy accidentally discovers one it must have happened because he just didn't handle it correctly simply defies belief and all easily observable reality. Or maybe it is because you are just not all that into a BBBJ+CIM or any other CIM finish and rarely even request or go for one.
Are you aware that typically less than half the girls appearing on Smooci Bangkok, virtually all Thai girls, list CIM as a service they are willing to offer, even for very good MONEY? What do you suppose most of those girls would do if you applied your "don't ask permission", "hold her down" or "give me your mouth" approach at the point of orgasm? I'd bet almost everything I own quite a few if not all of them are going to try to dodge some or every one of your squirts no matter how charming and persuasive you've been up to that moment. But you apparently disagree and think it is a true rarity, perhaps even unheard of except for a tiny few misguided punters, for a Thai girl to so much as "try" to cum dodge at the point of orgasm.
Now you're trying to float the idea that one is never likely to encounter a Thai P4P girl who is "deliberately not trying" in her session with a punter. Seriously? This and every similar P4P website I have ever read is peppered with reports from punters, not just me, detailing examples of that very thing happening. But not you. Never you. Fine. Then I can only conclude you are either the most charming, persuasive, never fail, no exceptions and no disappointments sexually compelling punter who ever landed in Thailand or your expectations and demands are quite a bit lower than all of us occasional "complainers" and "failures" painting a different potential picture on these forums and in personal discussions with each other on the ground.
I'm sure you and I would probably also disagree about which one is more likely to be the correct conclusion. (no smiley face emoticon available)
Mr Enternational
09-21-18, 02:29
I will check this and other threads to find the post you're referring to about some girl not delivering great sex "just to spite" her customer so I can better reply to that one later. So far I haven't read about that.
Now you're trying to float the idea that one is never likely to encounter a Thai P4P girl who is "deliberately not trying" in her session with a punter. Seriously? This and every similar P4P website I have ever read is peppered with reports from punters, not just me, detailing examples of that very thing happening.Are these two things not one in the same?
I don't know, Mr. E, I see your recent mission is to suggest there is something peculiar and unique about someone like me who would claim there are actually a lot of cum dodgers among Thai girls with regard to a CIM finish or that there is such a thing as getting bad sex through lack of conscientious effort from Thai girls. I am not on any kind of mission. All I am doing is telling of my personal experiences. I thought we all agreed that YMMV. So if someone keeps coming and saying that it is not possible to do such and such, if I have a different experience then I will say well that is not how I have experienced it, so it most definitely is possible. It is the same shit in the Angeles City thread. I say just pay after instead of paying before at the bar. You know how many guys said it was not possible to do that? Well maybe they had never tried. I have no idea why they thought it to not be possible. But then other regular posters also spoke up and said they had very well paid after instead of before sometimes. I am not one to say something is not possible just because it has not worked out that way for me.
The problem for ET is that he can't pop with a condom so he pays his money and takes his chances going BB. His getting regularly tested greatly reduces the risk of transmitting but is no protection against catching. I feel we can all agree there is some risk involved, the conversation seems to be about how great that is. Then there is the other argument, she doesn't have to. While yes it's between consenting adults I have always felt the girl is at a disadvantage, either from lack of information of the dangers, to her not caring, to her needing the money. When you break it down it's not advisable but understandable in situations where without going BB finishing in her pussy is a no show.I have not found that lack of information or lack of choice due to financial need is the determining factor in greater likelihood of accepting bareback. On the contrary, the most highly educated and financially secure girls are the ones most likely to be fine with it. With me, that is. School teachers, business professionals, even nurses I have met on the dating sites are much more familiar with and accepting of the scientific study conclusions about how rare if not practically unheard of in their observation for demonstrably heterosexual men who don't share needles to have acquired HIV and that risks and outcomes of other possible transmissions are not automatic death sentences and can be dealt with reasonably. And what a recent negative HIV test result shows. In my experience, girls who are the least educated, least informed, least worldly and most prone to being terrified by rumors and the unknown are the ones most likely to say "no" and not budge from it.
Are these two things not one in the same?Not as I understand the terms "deliberately not trying" and "just to spite". Not trying and being aware that one is not trying merely because they have no incentive or interest in trying or because they are simply tired or lazy is not the same as proactively trying to be malicious or punish a customer by taking that approach.
I have not found that lack of information or lack of choice due to financial need is the determining factor in greater likelihood of accepting bareback. On the contrary, the most highly educated and financially secure girls are the ones most likely to be fine with it. With me, that is. School teachers, business professionals, even nurses I have met on the dating sites are much more familiar with and accepting of the scientific study conclusions about how rare if not practically unheard of in their observation for demonstrably heterosexual men who don't share needles to have acquired HIV and that risks and outcomes of other possible transmissions are not automatic death sentences and can be dealt with reasonably. And what a recent negative HIV test result shows. In my experience, girls who are the least educated, least informed, least worldly and most prone to being terrified by rumors and the unknown are the ones most likely to say "no" and not budge from it.Educated girls will know that your test result lowers the chance of HIV by a large margin, maybe reducing it 99%, since most people with HIV did not get it in the last few weeks. I have a BBFS girl that is using the test result logic. However I know she is not just doing BB with everybody, regardless. She gets tested as well. Is very scared to give her BF something if should actually catch an STD of any type. She is shit scared after any condom accident. Fortunately she does not seem to be able to get pregnant so hasn't used Birth control for some time.
I think was generally accepted that non hookers were more likely to give BB than hookers, and therefore possibly more risky.
Some girls giving a no, are scared of pregnancy as well as STDs. So many young Thai girls get pregnant unintentionally, due to lack of birth control, not knowing how to make it safe properly, or birth control failure, etc. Pregnancy is a far bigger problem than HIV, I think. I known a lot of girls that got pregnant where was not the intention of both partners. I don't know a lot of HIV girls. Only 1 I heard about that I actually met previously (27 years ago). I realise many can be secret.
Double pregnancy protection with condom and also with other measures is a good idea. Some might use morning after pills after a condom accident, I don't know for sure. I have dosed a girl with morning after pills in that event before. The last thing these girls need, is another baby, or 2nd last (after HIV). Many of my girls had a baby already, and a high percentage were not exactly planned.
How do you give great sex? What is the definition of great sex? Couldn't someone follow all the directions and instructions of what you say and still not be able to deliver great sex even though they were trying? As has been said before, everybody is not good at everything. And this includes some people in the sex industry as well. So to assume that someone that you had never had sex with did not deliver great sex just to spite you is ridiculous.
Sure clearly the starfish girls are not trying at all. Can we call it "deliberate"? We certainly could if she is also known to perform well when she likes the customer. Deliberate is a silly word in this context, as extreme disinterest is more likely. However girls actively trying to make it bad certainly exist, and they have even told me so, about not giving their good service to certain customers.
The simple example that is encountered so often is the girl who uses stiff straight stretched legs, to make any penetration as difficult as possible. I call it "dick scared" but that maybe a misrepresentation of the truth, as she may just not want the customer to have a good time, and the sooner it is finished, the better. While more prevalent in Farang hookers, Thais trying to prevent a good time exist. They also are very heavy on restrictions, e. G. No kissing, no DATY, no fingering, don't touch my tits I am ticklish, and maybe even no BJ or a purposefully really bad one, meanwhile claiming all the young guys are happy with her service (LOL).
I do not refer here to girls that perform totally crap out of sheer ignorance and narrow-mindedness. I know that is also a significant percentage.
Educated girls will know ...
Double pregnancy protection with condom and also with other measures is a good idea. Some might use morning after pills after a condom accident, I don't know for sure. I have dosed a girl with morning after pills in that event before. The last thing these girls need, is another baby, or 2nd last (after HIV). Many of my girls had a baby already, and a high percentage were not exactly planned.Is abortion a no-no in Thai society? Or is it fairly commonly used?
Some girls giving a no, are scared of pregnancy as well as STDs. So many young Thai girls get pregnant unintentionally, due to lack of birth control, not knowing how to make it safe properly, or birth control failure, etc. Pregnancy is a far bigger problem than HIV, I think. I known a lot of girls that got pregnant where was not the intention of both partners. I don't know a lot of HIV girls. Only 1 I heard about that I actually met previously (27 years ago). I realise many can be secret.
Double pregnancy protection with condom and also with other measures is a good idea. Some might use morning after pills after a condom accident, I don't know for sure. I have dosed a girl with morning after pills in that event before. The last thing these girls need, is another baby, or 2nd last (after HIV). Many of my girls had a baby already, and a high percentage were not exactly planned.I was impressed by the awareness of these issues in an English fluent FL I met on ThaiCupid (I think) a few months ago. She was fine with my recent HIV test result document but asked if I had taken a recent follow up test to show how low my sperm count on emission is since I got my vasectomy. LOL. First time I was ever asked about that. By any female anywhere. Of course, unlike a blood check document, I don't have a document showing that I've had a vasectomy. I assume I got a payment receipt for the procedure decades ago. Probably should have kept it and had it laminated. lol. And, yes, there is some slight chance that a vasectomy can "fail" afterwards if the tubes manage to reconnect inside your scrotum and facilitate more sperm cells joining your semen. So I was quite impressed that she knew enough about how a vasectomy works to also know how one can fail.
In fact, I have not had a follow up test in years to confirm that my sperm count on emission is so low or zero so as not to produce a pregnancy. Maybe not since a few weeks after getting my vasectomy. That is, except for all the empirical evidence results testing I have been engaged in for decades where no pregnancy has occurred after barebacking countless times with countless different women of prime child-bearing age. And, while there is some very slight chance of a "rehealing/reconnecting" of what has been cut in a vasectomy, I think the rare failures are far more likely to occur soon after the surgery, not decades later.
She did come around to feeling comfortable that my vasectomy was good enough reason not to fear pregnancy and my recent blood check document offered enough feeling of safety to go ahead with a bareback session, even though I have not yet gotten back to her to set up a meeting to know for certain what will occur at crunch time.
Chubby guy selling translation books on the sidewalk when phones do it faster and for free. He can't be making any money so how does he stay chubby?Depends on his sales ability and if he really has a product that cannot be got on a phone App. Many phone Apps for teaching a language, leave a lot to be desired IMHO, and I know that many dinosaurs still prefer a book. Not me. Books are too heavy. However I do have a small book of Thai North Eastern Dialect (Isaan). It has a lot of inconsistencies and errors (they could not find a good proof reader obviously). There is no App for this that I know of. Perhaps I need to search again. I can find two learn Lao Apps, but I am not that optimistic they will be good. So many Language Apps are really shitty, or just not in a style that I like. Have to try though.
I believe in learning vocab, pronunciation, and usage of words in a sentence or phrase, plus drills to change the sentence slightly to get a new meaning (for repetition and brain programming purposes). Grammar is typically not an issue, very simple in Asian languages. Vocab should start with most commonly used words more so than subjects or categories. E. g. I don't need to study all the food names (probably know them already LOL). I don't need to start with travel words, sports words, etc. Yet many Apps like to do this. One Lao App in beginners level has a category called Halloween. What a joke! We don't need to talk about that in Lao language. This App is clearly fucked as a learning tool. LOL Basic chit chat must be the beginning. The 2nd App I tried has this. Looks a lot more promising.
There was a really good small English to Thai phrase book years ago, sort of a Dictionary of basics and basic phrases. Books that do single English words to Thai are too difficult to get context and meaning right. I haven't quite seen the App that could best replace it. I learned a hell of a lot from that small book.
If he sells travel guides, I agree would be very stupid to buy them.
Chubby guy selling translation books on the sidewalk when phones do it faster and for free. He can't be making any money so how does he stay chubby?He stays chubby because life has moved on without him. He has not adapted to the changes of the world around him. He is still stuck in the ideas of 30 years past. And because of his inability to progress, he loses out in other aspects of life, like his health. Think about those who cannot change their ways of thinking. Those are the most unsuccessful type of people living miserable lives, while trying to express their beliefs in the old ways, so they can bring others down with them. If he can't change his mentality, he can't change his weight. Standing or sitting all day on the street like those Thai street vendors doesn't help. Most are all unhealthy looking. Therefore it's his "personal hell" to stand on the sidewalk to sell translation books which I doubt is very successful. If he was open minded enough to change and progress, then perhaps he would have success doing something else. Then he can start living life as it should be lived, and lose some weight. Preaching and doing the same old shit, while the world or industry has changed will make guys end up like the chubby guy on the sidewalk. Be progressive. If you see something that works better, than you'the better ask, learn, and adapt. There seems to be many experts and teachers, but those who really know how to live life will forever be students. I don't want ever to be the chubby guy selling books. Be progressive!
Mostek6502
09-21-18, 10:36
Is abortion a no-no in Thai society? Or is it fairly commonly used?I have an ex girlfriend who has a six month old daughter. I broke up with her more than a year ago and she called me out of the blue to tell me she was pregnant with a local guy who deserted her as soon as she told him. She was not asking for money, but some advice from a father figure (yes, I know). I asked her what were her options. She was in a very dire position.
She was about six weeks pregnant and I asked her about an abortion, she said that this option was not negotiable at all, it was completely against Buddhist teachings. She was resigned to having the baby, but she was extremely resentful of the position she was in. She eventually accepted it and gave birth. She now is a content and happy mother and absolutely devoted to her daughter. Her father died three years ago and she lives on the farm with her mother and sister. I help her a little. She has grown up and she has matured greatly since we were together.
So, I think many Thais would not look kindly on abortion.
Franciscass
09-21-18, 10:48
how rare if not practically unheard of in their observation for demonstrably heterosexual men who don't share needles to have acquired HIV .There most certainly are HIV infected heterosexual men. It's simply a question of how much risk there is and whether she wants to take whatever that risk is by having BBFS with a stranger she has just met. I accept this is greatly reduced when results of a recent test are available.
I also accept you have found lots of ladies from all strata of society who took this risk but in my opinion they are foolish and furthermore I suggest they only do so to please the man which can be for any number of ulterior motives from desperation for a mate, loneliness, horniness, money and yes also out of ignorance.
I am not judging anybody, simply stating the reality that there are risks associated with BBFS for both parties and despite your own experiences I still believe really smart health conscious women aware of these risks are unlikely to go BBFS until they are much more acquainted with the guy.
Mr Enternational
09-21-18, 12:22
So, I think many Thais would not look kindly on abortion.I think it is more of a personal decision like almost everywhere else and not a cultural one. A friend of mine was recently pregnant by an American guy. I told her if she was not married then she did not need to have the baby. She argued with me that maybe they would marry later and they loved each other, etc. She never argued that abortion was not acceptable. When she got to be 5 months pregnant the guy disappeared. Then she told me that she did not want to have the baby. Pretty much too late then. All I could do was say I told you so, especially after the baby was born in May and she has been struggling since. She said yes you were right.
Blanquiceleste
09-21-18, 12:34
I think it is more of a personal decision like almost everywhere else and not a cultural one. A friend of mine was recently pregnant by an American guy. I told her if she was not married then she did not need to have the baby. She argued with me that maybe they would marry later and they loved each other, etc. She never argued that abortion was not acceptable. When she got to be 5 months pregnant the guy disappeared. Then she told me that she did not want to have the baby. Pretty much too late then. All I could do was say I told you so, especially after the baby was born in May and she has been struggling since. She said yes you were right.To quote the Dalai Lama from the NY Times, 11/28/1993.
Of course, abortion, from a Buddhist viewpoint, is an act of killing and is negative, generally speaking. But it depends on the circumstances.
If the unborn child will be retarded or if the birth will create serious problems for the parent, these are cases where there can be an exception. I think abortion should be approved or disapproved according to each circumstance.
Mr Enternational
09-21-18, 14:01
If the unborn child will be retarded or if the birth will create serious problems for the parent, these are cases where there can be an exception. I think abortion should be approved or disapproved according to each circumstance.For me, if you can't take care of a child then you have no business having one. It is really unfair for the child to be born into a situation as such. I explained that to my own daughter. She decided to have my grandkids anyway. But of course I live in a country where the government gives women free stuff when they can't take care of their kids and throws men in jail when they can't take care of theirs. So my daughter does just fine with the government's help.
These are just some interesting facts to reflect on.
1. The first post in "Stupid Shit in Medellin was made by Admin and says "I've been trying to use the Medellin forum while I'm here and for some reason some of you guys seem to think that criticizing or reviewing other guys posts on the pussy threads is what this forum is about. It's not, and doing that creates and environment that inhibits growth of the forum because seriously people don't want to deal with your bullshit. ".
2. Wikipedia defines an internet troll as "In Internet slang, a troll is a person who starts quarrels or upsets people on the Internet to distract and sow discord by posting inflammatory and digressive, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community. "
3. So far this thread has 131 or so posts.
4. 36 of the 131 posts expresses negativity towards me, Monkeypaw.
5. 15 of the total 36 negative comments come from one user..Point proven MP. I'm in the Angeles City thread and it's the same problem. Some posters are now complaining about how off topic conversations and the comments are. There are threads with assigned titles like "General Discussions, Politics" but some guys seem to just want to use the main thread like Bangkok or Angeles City to flood random conversations unrelated to sex or hookers. I guess this is like trolling as well. It distracts from the purpose of a information sex board. Hopefully something can be done to change this. Prayers maybe.
For me, if you can't take care of a child then you have no business having one. It is really unfair for the child to be born into a situation as such. I explained that to my own daughter. She decided to have my grandkids anyway. But of course I live in a country where the government gives women free stuff when they can't take care of their kids and throws men in jail when they can't take care of theirs. So my daughter does just fine with the government's help.Same situation. Just a few days ago, my daughter just had a child from some guy who's currently in prison and is now currently living in a shelter. I gave her a few options but she's a stubborn fuck like her mother. If she wants to do things her way, she can go right the hell on ahead. Reality is a hard pill to swallow.
I am not judging anybody, simply stating the reality that there are risks associated with BBFS for both parties and despite your own experiences I still believe really smart health conscious women aware of these risks are unlikely to go BBFS until they are much more acquainted with the guy.There are risks involved period. If you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen. Picked myself up a hottie tonight that had way too many free tequila shots that the bar gives the girl to loosen them up. And we all know what happens with lose women. Take a step back, other areas the women keep a close watch on the activities. Here the lights are out, the girl is feeling very relaxed ie drunk and there's no telling if the guy really had on an intact condom. She feels something and is satisfied. With the next customer the same thing might happen. Over and over again. Guy isn't spending $60 in lady drinks for no reason at all. Hundreds of drunk gogo girls walking out of the club every night needing to earn a bit more cash, what are the chances she doses off without checking for protection. Accept the risks associated with this hobby, there's a reason why this part of Asia is ripe for catching something. I'm not preaching safe sex at all, quite the opposite. Accept that every point might have a shark in it and deal with it however you feel it needs to be dealt with. Well written responses won't save your ass.
Next time your about to get it on and pull out the condom, pay attention to detail for a change. Notice how the girl didn't inspect the package? Didn't bother to check the condoms integrity. Just accepted that the condom was a normal condom when in fact it was anything but. Girl can want to practice safe sex but when you add liquor, overnight stays and dark rooms to the mix anything goes. She didn't check your condom then she didn't check the condom if the guy who cut off the tip.
I am not judging anybody, simply stating the reality that there are risks associated with BBFS for both parties and despite your own experiences I still believe really smart health conscious women aware of these risks are unlikely to go BBFS until they are much more acquainted with the guy.The reality is the BBFS women are taking a significantly higher risk than the guy. Mean number of fucks to catch it from a HIV person are much lower. Circumcision could reduce risk for guy even further. I have a BBFS regular, and am completely honest with her. However she knows guys in general, will lie about how many or which girls they did BB with, or have condom accidents, and hence is ultra suspicious, requiring a regular blood test. If the guy did the odd girl BB the risk is pretty low, but of course there is far more emotional thoughts about HIV than knowing exactly the technical risks.
If I did needles, gays, LBs, etc. I sure she would be doing anything with me at all.
Needles and BB ass fucking remain far greater risks, and quite hard to identify males that really caught HIV another way, and they can easily be lying about exactly what they did. There are probably a lot more likely ways to die. Plenty of studies showed persons did not catch it from their HIV partner with certain safer practices. E. g. I think DATY was considered pretty safe. We don't use protection for that and is unlikely to be needed. I think it is possible to catch Chlamydia from a BBBJ (although rare) and that is how I believe I got it once.
For all those village kids, who lost both parents to HIV, would be interesting to know the percentages of the causes, if could be obtained truthfully. Could be a high percentage of cases where needles were involved at least for the guy. Could be that some of the women were ass fucked, using wild speculation, although they could catch it from BBFS. It really isn't that easy for the male partner to get it, one would think, if he is not a bisexual and not a drug user. Can be the male caught from his wife too, but that might be less than 10% of the cases. If fuck the HIV person BBFS enough times, eventually the risks catch up with you or just get unlucky.
I imagine that older guys are thinking that they have only so many years left anyway, so why not enjoy, taking a few faint risks. There are riskier things, like how many Farangs joined the Pattaya Flying Club, "jumping" (or being jumped) off tall buildings. How many guys caught HIV from a blood transfusion? I certainly met at least one Hemophiliac (spelling) years ago that got HIV from blood transfusion. Blood banks don't want any guys that do hookers, but I am not sure that hookers are actually riskier than non P4P population.
I theorise that doing BBFS with a very small number of well known women, is less risky that BB with any girl that is always willing as a matter of course. Early days in Thailand I was less careful as had no wife to pass on any type of STD. So that is the vastly bigger risk. Catching any type of very transmittable STD, and passing on to GF, wife, etc. HIV gets an unproportionate amount of the publicity. There are plenty of STDs including ones I never heard of before.
There most certainly are HIV infected heterosexual men. It's simply a question of how much risk there is and whether she wants to take whatever that risk is by having BBFS with a stranger she has just met. I accept this is greatly reduced when results of a recent test are available.
I also accept you have found lots of ladies from all strata of society who took this risk but in my opinion they are foolish and furthermore I suggest they only do so to please the man which can be for any number of ulterior motives from desperation for a mate, loneliness, horniness, money and yes also out of ignorance.
I am not judging anybody, simply stating the reality that there are risks associated with BBFS for both parties and despite your own experiences I still believe really smart health conscious women aware of these risks are unlikely to go BBFS until they are much more acquainted with the guy.I agree. In fact, I would and have gone even further than you and others in my postings regarding if you're going to go bareback, do it as safely and with as much consideration for your partners as possible.
I will repeat now what I have posted several times, almost as many times as the subject has come up, that IF you are going to indulge in a life of bareback fucking, I strongly recommend you get yourself circumcised, get a vasectomy, don't go bareback unless you have a current (within 1-2 months) negative HIV + other STI blood test result document from a qualified clinic, avoid any obvious visual or otherwise seriously problematic and suspiciously unhealthy vaginas, keep every pertinent body part well lubed at all times, avoid as much as possible prolonged "rough" kinds of sexual activities that might cause skin abrasions, always roll out of bed and wash your package with soapy water within minutes after finishing and take a leak (avoiding the Code Word trigger here) soon after.
IMO, for men who routinely engage in bareback fucking AS WELL AS the occasional "forgetting" to wear a condom, being "too drunk" to wear a condom or that the girl "didn't ask me" to wear a condom guys, those pro-active measures and actions that I have taken and that I strongly recommend other barebackers take are the only true technical means to avoid catching as well as infecting your sexual partners with anything nasty along with avoiding unplanned pregnancy.
Understanding and appreciating the reasons women take all kinds of physical and emotional risks with a man and he with her, being more acquainted with the man and he with her, etc. are all nice additions to the mix. But nothing compares with taking those actual pro-active actions and measures I listed above and have repeated several times previously. If anything, those pro-active measures very much trump any well-meaning effort of most guys I have ever known who say they always try to use a condom and so should everyone else. IMO, they are letting themselves off easy with that approach compared to the far more effective pro-active measures they could take instead.
PedroMorales
09-22-18, 10:14
I imagine
I theorise.I know. I went up to Nan (north of see Mai) years ago when the hookers there were supposed to have a 75% infection rate. I also read BS about the low risks for makes of catching the clap and got an awful dose in Pattaya, in part as a result of that unscientific advice. There are real risks out there and mercurial theories do not change them. Junkies, bisexuals, homosexuals and ladyboys have high rates. You don't have to be a genius to see how that ups the infection rate in places like Pattaya.
Theories like these are like the Buddhism of the Pattaya hookers, who believe sacrificing a chicken will cure them. The Pattaya "Buddhists" might be more scientific.
The risks are real. Deal with them and be careful about what you read on the Net.
I'm adopting a new approach: bonking airline cabin crew who are glad of the extra $$, more so the Americans who are taxed on their per dime but not on what I pay. I figure the risks are lower as they are unprepared, are only doing one customer a day (I have my suspicions about yesterday's stack them high bonk) and they have to be uber careful). I get a good rate too and so far, so good.
I strongly recommend other barebackers take are the only true technical means to avoid catching as well as infecting your sexual partners with anything nasty along with avoiding unplanned pregnancy.
Understanding and appreciating the reasons women take all kinds of physical and emotional risks with a man and he with her, being more acquainted with the man and he with her, etc. are all nice additions to the mix. But nothing compares with taking those actual pro-active actions and measures I listed above and have repeated several times previously. If anything, those pro-active measures very much trump any well-meaning effort of most guys I have ever known who say they always try to use a condom and so should everyone else. IMO, they are letting themselves off easy with that approach compared to the far more effective pro-active measures they could take instead.You start to get carried away here. I don't see which measure you mention can help the girl not get pregnant.
Also you seem to claim your measures are more effective than a condom, which is extremely fanciful and I doubt there is any evidence for it. Condoms ARE known to be effective against HIV. I don't see any reason to belittle those using a condom at all. They are going to be at less risk of catching many diseases and obviously less likely to cause a pregnancy, one of the highest risks.
I never ever got any girl pregnant, however it must be that some guys are causing unwanted pregnancies somehow, and there are girls claiming to take precautions of some sort that were not effective. After a condom accident I did make sure the girl took other precautions, and naturally condom accidents are fairly rare if lube is used properly and ensure no air bubbles when putting it on, with good technique. For marathon fucks it can be necessary to change the condom. I don't like condoms sure, but put up with some thin Japanese ones, that I supply myself. I have cancelled with girls insisting to use her own thick or wrong sized condom. Would probably be useless for me. Fortunately 98% of girls are O.K. with my condoms, and maybe 99% for Thais. I have definitely met a few Thai girls that accidentally had a baby from a non Thai man, probably a customer in each case. Even more met hookers stupidly getting pregnant to Thai boys, with boy often doing a runner to a new girl at some point. Teenage pregnancies are high, and abortions low. Why would a hooker be so stupid as to have a baby? Hard to fathom. Why not wait?
Crocodilexp
09-22-18, 11:43
The reality is the BBFS women are taking a significantly higher risk than the guy. Mean number of fucks to catch it from a HIV person are much lower.In addition, over the long term, a typical working girl has an order of magnitude more partners than an typical punter, even if he's unusually active.
In my opinion, given the higher risk of HIV for the women, this makes a man demanding BBFS from a sex worker selfish and borderline abusive. Sure, there's usually semi-informed consent, but regardless of that, condoms are such an exceedingly simple solution that reduce the risk to the girl from substantial to negligible.
Even if I'm fully capable of convincing someone to voluntarily cross the street blindfolded for money, should I really be doing that?
Blanquiceleste
09-22-18, 11:56
I don't like condoms sure, but put up with some thin Japanese ones, that I supply myself. I have cancelled with girls insisting to use her own thick or wrong sized condom. Would probably be useless for me. Fortunately 98% of girls are O.K. with my condoms, and maybe 99% for Thais.
Why would a hooker be so stupid as to have a baby? Hard to fathom. Why not wait?I have been using Sagami 0. 01 for nearly a decade now, and in all these years I have not met a single girl who has insisted on using her own condom. 95% of the girls would be from South East Asia or North Asia. The remaining 5% might be from other random places where my travels have taken me. I do not fancy white girls at all, including Eastern European girls. That kind of narrows down my target.
As for hookers getting pregnant, if the father is a foreigner, the baby becomes a passport to freedom and security. If your reference is to the local men, then I am as baffled as you are.
You start to get carried away here. I don't see which measure you mention can help the girl not get pregnant.
Me=IF you are going to indulge in a life of bareback fucking, I strongly recommend you
(list) get a vasectomy
Syzygies=Also you seem to claim your measures are more effective than a condom, which is extremely fanciful and I doubt there is any evidence for it. Condoms ARE known to be effective against HIV. I don't see any reason to belittle those using a condom at all. They are going to be at less risk of catching many diseases and obviously less likely to cause a pregnancy, one of the highest risks.Nevermind "seem", I'll come right out and say it bluntly; when I am 10 minutes away from bareback fucking a girl, being circumcised, having had a vasectomy and with a 1 month old negative HIV and other STI test result document in my possession, I will be safer for that girl in terms of preventing pregnancy and not infecting her with something life alteringly serious than the vast majority of punters she is likely to have ever been with. And, were any of them in my position, might now be fumbling with a condom wrapper, if they remember it, aren't too drunk or she has requested and insisted on it. The measures I have taken in order to make sure she will not get pregnant or catch a life altering bug and that I strongly recommend to anyone who is indulging in bareback fucking of various women, will not "slip off", will not "break", will not "tear", will not be "forgotten" in a state of drunkenness or uncontrollable horniness, will not go away because the girl "didn't ask me" to wear a condom and on and on.
In all likelihood, she has never met or been with a man who is circumcised, has had a vasectomy AND is in possession of a current negative blood check result document other than me. I have never sat next to a man in Thailand where the subject has come up who could claim to have just those three known significant precautions on his side as we are both heading out for a night of bar hopping. Those three measures alone make me one of the safest men to have sex with tonight, bareback or not, in all of Bangkok. LOL. And that isn't even mentioning the other safety factors I listed.
Show of hands, and we're obviously on the honor system here, how many guys reading this thread can say they at this moment have taken just those three precautions while at the same time has or would go bareback tonight if the girl was fine with it or can absolutely guarantee their condom will be used 100% properly and stay intact without slipping, tearing, breaking or failing?
The precautions the condom guy is using will only work if he uses them properly every time and they never fail. In fact, for preventing pregnancy, my vasectomy is 20 times more effective than his condom even if he uses it properly 100% of the time (I read that on one of those condom info pamphlets inside the box. LOL). My precautions work whether I give them a thought or not, whether I'm shit-faced drunk or not, whether I'm overwhelmed with horniness or only middling into it, whether I'm clumsy and nervous or sharp as a tack and, moreover, whether I'm with someone who would prefer I use a condom or not.
Absolutely correct. The only viable way to prove such a thing is to make a video and either interview the girl, ask her age, details and how much you are being paid for to do what. Then the lucky monger can write his screen name on the girls belly with lipstick...Perhaps this is close enough? I sorta have a feeling no matter what I do, it will not be good enough. I cry about this every night that I am unable to appease everybody. I really want to be everybody's hero. I often hear people ask me. Where have all the good men gone. And where are all the gods? The Thai girls have even pondered, where's the streetwise Hercules to fight the rising odds?
They ask me if I'm their white knight upon a fiery steed. That's because late at night they toss and turn and dream of what they need. I answer back what kind of hero do they want. To that they say. He's got to be strong. And he's got to be fast. And he's got to be fresh from the fight. He's got to be sure. And it's got to be soon. And he's got to be larger than life! Larger than life! To that I said, you probably are waiting for God.
Seriously, Gogo girls would throw themselves to MP, (Come on give me a break).I just want to ask some simple questions that will perhaps give you a little bit insight in my life. Not here to argue.
1. When you stroll on Walking Street, do the same Russian girls keep staring, eyeing, and smiling at you, even when they've seen you already like 200 times a year for the past 2 years?
2. Are you able to get into the top Go Go bars on Walking Street without any problems?
3. Once in, are you able to bring in other guests, whom they deem as "unwelcomed," with just a nod of your head?
4. Once inside. Are you able to get the most of all of the mamasans, waitstaff to come to your table and give you bows and give you kisses in shoe of respect?
5. Do you have this annoying issue that the mamasans are always bringing you brand new girls, hoping to please you?
6. Do you have this annoying problem that the DJs keeps playing your favorite songs during your stay?
7. Are you able to find or know who is the hottest girl in the bar?
8. Are you able to get her to come for a drink and chat?
9. After the hottest comes drinks with you, are you able to barfine or does she hustle you and goes away?
10. After you barfine her and fuck her, can you make her roll her eyes at you every time you step into that same club because she knows she's been played?
These are some of Monkeypaw's problems. If you are able to get another person to to show their "true" emotions, whether it is via words typed online or by their actions in person. You have what is called the "power" over that person. And for those who feel like backtracking, it's tool late. You've shown your true colors and others have recognized it. Plus last checked, taxi from BKK to Pattaya is still 1200,300 by bus, and I'm still here until end of the month. Is there a problem with the roads?
Interesting comments about going bare, but rarely is discussed that the standard STD tests to NOT check for herpes! Please, especially you married guys, keep that in mind. Your lovely Thai hooker may say she is tested regularly but is she testing for HSV? Probably not.
And realize, too, that even using condoms 100% of the time and correctly, you can still bring home a disease! Happened to me. Earlier this year after my October LOS trip last year, I noticed some white bumps in my pubic region. I thought I knew what they were, but went to doc in partial denial, and was relieved to hear I had some infected hair follicles. They should clear up in a week. Well, I had had them for weeks already. Well, they continued to stick around and I was getting a few more, so I did a closer inspection and I had the bumps where I had no hairs. Yep, I tried to deny it at first, but I knew I had Molluscum Contagiosum (MC). I went back to the doctor and after she again mis-dx'the me, I pointed out the bumps were not where the hairs were, then she agreed I had MC. (I gues this doc doesn't see many STD cases.) Anyway, MC is quite contagious and while it will go away on its own eventually, it is visible and if you have a SO she is likely to get it, so even if she doesn't notice the bumps on YOUR skin, she WILL notice them on hers. The girl I got them from probably had them in her pubic region and I, being presbyopic didn't notice them. Mine are gone now and I am clean again, but it proves we can catch things regardless of condoms and STD tests.
Anyway, the doc ordered an STD test for me, as is standard procedure, and there were the standard checks for gonorrhea, syphilis, chlamydia and HIV, but nothing for HSV. That is one I am most scared of.
And I should note I shower before and after each sexual encounter, so I may have caught my MC during post-sex cuddling. But who knows?
This is a little embarrassing to admit, but I have embarrassed myself plenty here already, but I mention it as something for you dudes to think about. Be safe!
I have been using Sagami 0. 01 for nearly a decade now, ...If only they could manufacture those with a bit more girth. It's a puzzle to me why they don't put out a "L" series of sorts. Isn't there a market? Progress on the condom front is so sluggish, the technology is there but getting a product normal-sized men can be comfortable with is like pulling teeth. I am even sometimes afraid they might withdraw polyurethane condoms from sale altogether. They will invent they're bad for global warming or something of the kind.
Franciscass
09-22-18, 17:00
My precautions work whether I give them a thought or not, whether I'm shit-faced drunk or not, whether I'm overwhelmed with horniness or only middling into it, whether I'm clumsy and nervous or sharp as a tack and, moreover, whether I'm with someone who would prefer I use a condom or not.With all due respect ET for me this is not about whether you personally are a danger to your lady going BB, most likely tests not withstanding you are not. No the conversation is about the risks in going BB with somebody whose health situation is unknown. Having BB with somebody who is not a carrier of an STI other than the risk of pregnancy also nonexistent with a vasectomy, it is safe. The danger is not in transmitting it is in contacting. You can take all the precautions, washing, checking for telltale signs etc but you can never be sure the girl is not a carrier and while nothing is guaranteed by using condoms a bad outcome is significantly reduced.
If only they could manufacture those with a bit more girth. It's a puzzle to me why they don't put out a "L" series of sorts. Isn't there a market? Progress on the condom front is so sluggish, the technology is there but getting a product normal-sized men can be comfortable with is like pulling teeth. I am even sometimes afraid they might withdraw polyurethane condoms from sale altogether. They will invent they're bad for global warming or something of the kind.Try the Aoni. 01 latex condom. These are English comdoms available on Ebay and are a better fit for western men. The Sagami (I think) . 02 Large are not too bad either, relatively speaking.
But even with these super thin condoms, I can still barely come in one. And as suggested, keep yourself well lubricated. These all tend to bunch up on me and then rip at the tip, especially if the girl dries out a bit.
I have never had a Thai girl refuse to use one of my super thin condoms. A few have been curious and remark about how thin they are, but no refusals, though one was cautious to the point that after I couldn't come, she pretty much insisted on using hers, which I agreed to. Obviously, it was worse and I gave up soon thereafter. But if we guys don't take precautions to keep them from breaking girls WILL refuse to let us use them, and then we are stuck with the thicker kind, where I personally can't feel a thing.
Beijing4987
09-22-18, 19:24
This thread was started to divert Penthouse Letters from the Bangkok thread. It now has useful information. I'm referring to the info on condoms. It is possible to ignore anything irrelevant. Just a few clicks away.
Why don't the well respected senior members & MP just meet up and settle this topic once and for all?
Perhaps this is close enough? I sorta have a feeling no matter what I do, it will not be good enough. I cry about this every night that I am unable to appease everybody. I really want to be everybody's hero. I often hear people ask me. Where have all the good men gone. And where are all the gods? The Thai girls have even pondered, where's the streetwise Hercules to fight the rising odds?
They ask me if I'm their white knight upon a fiery steed. That's because late at night they toss and turn and dream of what they need. I answer back what kind of hero do they want. To that they say. He's got to be strong. And he's got to be fast. And he's got to be fresh from the fight. He's got to be sure. And it's got to be soon. And he's got to be larger than life! Larger than life! To that I said, you probably are waiting for God.
This thread was started to divert Penthouse Letters from the Bangkok thread. It now has useful information. I'm referring to the info on condoms. It is possible to ignore anything irrelevant. Just a few clicks away.Useful info is not stupid shit. Useful info belongs in the General thread.
I had a girl on Thaifriendly threaten to report me to the cops after I asked her how much she wanted for ST. I know this was probably a bluff, but given that it's technically illegal there, I wonder how risky that sort of behavior is, especially since the girl could turn out to be [CodeWord902] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902).
Any tips on proper etiquette on TF to find WG's and not ruffle non-WG's feathers?
Blanquiceleste
09-23-18, 03:11
Why don't the well respected senior members & MP just meet up and settle this topic once and for all?Because MP is on ground that the respected seniors are all behind a keyboard.
Blanquiceleste
09-23-18, 03:14
If only they could manufacture those with a bit more girth. It's a puzzle to me why they don't put out a "L" series of sorts. Isn't there a market? Progress on the condom front is so sluggish, the technology is there but getting a product normal-sized men can be comfortable with is like pulling teeth. I am even sometimes afraid they might withdraw polyurethane condoms from sale altogether. They will invent they're bad for global warming or something of the kind.I agree, they are bit a too cozy, but not uncomfortable to the point that my dick feels "choked". Again, needless to say, all men are not endowed in the same way.
The Sagami 0. 02 has a Large version, which I have found to be a great fit. I wish they would start manufacturing the 0. 01 in the Large size too.
Mr Enternational
09-23-18, 04:07
I had a girl on Thaifriendly threaten to report me to the cops after I asked her how much she wanted for ST. I know this was probably a bluff, but given that it's technically illegal there, I wonder how risky that sort of behavior is, especially since the girl could turn out to be
Any tips on proper etiquette on TF to find WG's and not ruffle non-WG's feathers?I don't know if you are trolling, but why not treat them as you would treat a woman you are trying to meet back in your home town? Did she have a sign on her page that said hooker? If not, why would you ask such a question? Just say Hello, and let nature take its course. If she is a hooker then it will come out in the wash. The website is Thaifriendly, not Thaihookers. Just so happens that some chicks who are hookers use the site as well. I have met plenty of normal free chicks on that site. Use discretion dude.
I don't know if you are trolling, but why not treat them as you would treat a woman you are trying to meet back in your home town? Did she have a sign on her page that said hooker? If not, why would you ask such a question? Just say Hello, and let nature take its course. If she is a hooker then it will come out in the wash. The website is Thaifriendly, not Thaihookers. Just so happens that some chicks who are hookers use the site as well. I have met plenty of normal free chicks on that site. Use discretion dude.Not trolling, just limited time. I can maybe be on TF 2 hours a day on weekends. Sometimes 30 minutes on weekdays. Time difference is a problem.
Thanks for the advice, just wanted to know if there was a way to identify hookers on TF quickly.
Franciscass
09-23-18, 09:19
Just a few questions to ask all you doubters.
Do the waters part for you when you want to get to Koh Larn?
Does that bottle of cheap plonk turn to a Grand Cru when you open it?
Does that ugly fugly you bar fined last night turn into a beautiful girl after she has spent a night with you?
Do the satangs in the begging bowls of the unfortunates turn to gold when you pass you hand over them?
Do the people follow you up the mound to listen to you tell them how to up their game?
Can you buy three large double cheeseburgers and feed 500 people?
No? I didn't think so oh ye of little faith.
Then why do you want to question on this forum the power and the glory of the special one who can.
Thanks for the advice, just wanted to know if there was a way to identify hookers on TF quickly.Dude, perhaps TF isn't the best tool for your purpose? Why not just get down to the freelance bars? Nobody would get offended that way. Respect is the key, me thinks.
Not trolling, just limited time. I can maybe be on TF 2 hours a day on weekends. Sometimes 30 minutes on weekdays. Time difference is a problem.
Thanks for the advice, just wanted to know if there was a way to identify hookers on TF quickly.The working girls usually give themselves away by 1/ quoting ST prices straight away or in their profile 2/ Asking if you are in Thailand now or in their profile tell you not to contact them unless you are in Thailand or 3/ Their pics will have them in uniform or at work or 4/ After a couple messages are exchanged will either ask or tell you points 1,2 &3.
They are the hints I look for.
In my opinion, given the higher risk of HIV for the women, this makes a man demanding BBFS from a sex worker selfish and borderline abusive.That's quite a statement. I think most men who like to bareback are not 'demanding' it from the girls. They simply ask it and if the answer is no they move on to the next girl.
Yep, I tried to deny it at first, but I knew I had Molluscum Contagiosum (MC). I went back to the doctor and after she again mis-dx'the me, I pointed out the bumps were not where the hairs were, then she agreed I had MC. (I gues this doc doesn't see many STD cases.)Thanks for the report and warning us but Molluscum Contagiosum is not an STD. It's a viral infection of the skin that is transmitted in many different ways including direct skin contact. So condoms don't protect against it.
I just want to ask some simple questions that will perhaps give you a little bit insight in my life.All of your questions can be anwered with 'yes' by any man who is spending the same amount of money in the agogo's as you.
If you are able to get another person to to show their "true" emotions, whether it is via words typed online or by their actions in person. You have what is called the "power" over that person.Or you are just a troll. It's so damn easy what you are doing: annoying people as much as you can so they will respond. Anyone can have 'power' over people that way.
Banana Boi
09-23-18, 10:57
Or you are just a troll. It's so damn easy what you are doing: annoying people as much as you can so they will respond. Anyone can have 'power' over people that way.But aren't you continuously falling into MP's trap by responding?
Guys who are experienced will know what to believe from any member and know which members are truthful, which members only reports the good things in a bragging sort of way, which members are naive to a girl's words and actions, which members think they know it all but really don't, etc.
Why don't the well respected senior members & MP just meet up and settle this topic once and for all?Now there is a dumb idea, as a general principal. It is safer to remain anonymous, and only meet up with Posters with a good track record where you respect their opinions, or at least know you can have fun with them present. Posters generally know who they really would like to meet, and who they definitely prefer to avoid.
Stubbornly held views are hard to shift right.
We must understand that compatibility levels can be very low. Attitudes very different. I don't even like to get "private" messages from guys I don't know.
When you go to MPs, you certainly don't buddies. When in a bar, it is too loud to talk much anyway.
The worst forum poster I ever met was always chatting up lots of girls, showing off, and trying to introduce me to talk to them too when I had zero interest. Better off alone or with guys accidentally met, sometimes.
3 times I met a forum poster together with his GF, and found myself liking his girl much more so, a bit too much. Not really the best idea. In other circumstances I would have tried to hook up with the girls. All three guys were well known on here but many years back. None of those guys are still with the girl, I think but I have no idea how to find those girls.
Sometimes liked a friend of my own ex GF too much too. That was less common though. Maybe only once.
...It simply did not happen. I've been mongering Thailand for 26 years, 13 as a sexpat. He does have some pics yes. Did you ever notice how many of them are promo from a website?You got me. I know when I have been caught red handed in a lie. I have to admit, I have this sick obsession about browsing through various websites showing promo pics of hot girls and then making up fantasies about them. Sometimes I would go too far and try to find other random girls that look very similar to the ones on the promo websites, and take pictures. Just so I can make myself seem more credible. But you have to admit, I do a pretty good job at finding matches that somewhat resembles the website photos. The girl below doesn't quite look 100% like the actual girl in the promo website, but still pretty close. Wouldn't you agree? I've attached both pictures so folks can compare and to show you how hard I work at trying to find similar matches. I'm not perfect. Can't always get the girls to pose for pictures. So I can only do my best. Strangely, my best sure seems slightly, but not by much, better than most on here. There was a time when posted pics on my stories and reports would often showed the number of times they have been viewed. I can honestly say, I didn't click on my own photos 200 times, so apparently I do have an audience and following that knows how read and to enjoy. And for them, it's story time again. I will need a little bit of quiet and some attention please.
"A Story About Licking Leaking Lek".
Getting to fucking a Go Go bar girl is easy. Getting to fucking a hot Go Go bar girl is harder. Now getting to fuck hot Go Go bar girl while she is still wearing her dance or club outfit is the hardest. (Actually, there is one that is more difficult. Fucking a hot Go Go bar girl while "you" are wearing her dance outfit, might be impossible. But I rather not know). Now on with the story of Leaking Lek. It is rumored on somewhere on Walking Street is a girl who gets off on the pleasures of her own hands and is able to gush. She does this on request or just for the hell of it because she wants to. Many have gone in search of her hoping to quench their own thirst for the nectar that flows from her love mound. Because as legend tells it, there are powers, like eternal youth, gained from its consumption. This is a story in search of this mythical nymph named Lek. For those of you who honestly get bored of your own routine when it comes to sex. Variety is the spice of life, but sometimes even that gets boring, same routine with a different girl. How many of us pay attention to ourselves when it comes to what we do in the bedroom? I know I do. I try to change it up, force the issue. But 300 different girls a year? I welcome the opportunity when a girl does something to me "out of the blue" that makes me go "what the fuck?" It's called kink and it can be your best friend when it comes to P4 P. Now of course, this story is only fantasy as others may have suggested many of stories are. But if for some reason, anybody gets the balls to seek the truth and experience "jewel" in this story. There is only one place on Walking Street that you may perhaps find this little "gem. " I'm sure the witty and experienced to Pattaya will be able to follow the "15" step treasure map to her.
After showering, Lek put on the same sexy outfit she dances in, which accentuated her nice body and I couldn't keep my eyes off her amazing tits and ass. She knows how to carry herself and is clean. Lek smells delicious and has a very sexy voice that got me rock hard instantly. She climbed on the bed and began with some soft and very sensual kissing with tongue. Her moaning and passion into kissing is perfect. Loved sucking on her lips and tongue! She is extremely responsive to hands and mouth on her tits. She loves her tits being groped and massaged while sucking and teasing her nipples. Light to deep sucking on her delicious nipples makes her squirm and she strokes me while doing it. I soon lay her back and gently removed her bottoms and start kissing and licking all around her kitty, in her inner thighs, and outer lips. Then dive my tongue deep into her and sucked on her clit. While tongue fucking the most delicious kitty have tasted in awhile, I thought. Why does it taste so yummy? She used this strawberry lube to fill her pussy so it tastes like the candy given after Sunday church. She thoroughly gets into DATY, grinding her hips upwards as she shoves her pussy into my mouth. Seriously, I felt as she was fucking my mouth with her pussy. I never, in my life, felt my mouth being abused by a pussy like that before. It was as if I was getting punished. If they had a emergency 911 phone number just for mouth abuse, I would have called it. I have bruises around my lips to show for. Lek moans, shakes, gets so wet and loved having her clit sucked. I had a finger in her hitting her spot and bringing to brink of orgasm. That's when I clamped my mouth on her kitty and suck her clit good til she came hard. I didn't let her delicious juice escape as she trembled. I was already hot and sweaty for working so hard. But I knew I had to I keep going and she knew that I was not playing about my skill for eating pussy. Tonight she learned that hungry Monkeypaw is a dangerous Monkeypaw.
Soon she was repaying me with such a deep and passionate thankful BBBJ in which she sucked on my dick so hard. I thought l had barfined a vacuum cleaner, not a girl. Her mouth was so hot and wet. Plus the way she went up and down on the shaft while using her tongue on it and flickering the tip was amazing. It was a sight to see this girl with dick in her mouth. WOW! Mmmm. It was not long before I had the urge to taste her again. I wasn't full from my last meal of her shaved pussy. I pulled her hair back to get her mouth off my dick and told her to flip around, suck my cock, while she was spreading her ass to open up that pussy for chow time. Pretty soon had her in 69 so I could suck on her pussy more while she worked her mouth on my dick with no hands. She lost concentration and had to stop sucking while my tongue engulfed that wet pussy. Every time her hands would release her ass cheeks to stop my cock from driving deeper in her mouth, I had her put them back to keep that ass open. She struggled for the next 10 minutes. She then said she needed my dick, and I was ready to fuck. A cover was applied and she slid that magnificent glove of a kitty onto me and was riding deep, slow, and passionately on me while gripping my chest. I squeezed her ass deeper onto me while I sucked her big tits. She then did something amazing. She raised up over me and leaned back, shoved fingers into her pussy. Frantically she shoved one and then another deep into her pussy. Her juices were leaking all over her fingers and even down the inside of her thighs. This is why I call her Leaking Lek. Sliding slowly downward, she laid on the bed, drew her knees up and spread her thighs wide so she could drive her fingers deeper in her shaved * I watched as she plunged two, and then three fingers into her sloppy pussy, rapidly finger fucking herself endlessly, until she let out a loud shriek and had a second orgasm. She thrashed about as her juices squirted all over the bed. It sprayed on me, on her, and on my teddy bear like Christmas rain.
For the next few seconds, she laid there trembling, as if she was left outside in the cold. It looked kind of weird. She looked as if she was convulsing like from seizure. She told me, no more, I cum too much. I was thinking. What about me? Monkeypaw gets no love? That's when Monkeypaw went all selfish because this shit wasn't fair. Leaking Lek was trying to pull a fast one. I then open her legs wide, mounted her, and shoved my cock deep in with a single thrust. I held her arms while pounding that ass missionary and deep into pussy, making her kitty soaked, while my boys smacked those pussy lips. She squirmed, whimpered, moaned, screamed, and mumble some angry Thai words all at once for the next 15 minutes. She kept begging me to please cum, please cum. Then I turned her over doggy, grabbed her by one shoulder and one ass cheek. And using long deep slow strokes, fucked her until I was going faster and faster, punishing her from behind for what she did to my bear. She was screaming so loudly that I could hear dogs barking back at her from outside. I kept pounding her pussy like this for awhile. The sight of me going in and out of her and of those ass cheeks clapping, with the pinkness of her lips clutching me was way too much. She was going to make me cum and I felt it coming. I pulled off the cover, opened up her ass cheeks, sprayed her asshole with warm cum and then watched it drip down her pussy, and then accidentally onto bear. What the hell? I was angry at myself. I had become the same monster to which I was punishing her for. Now I have learned not to cast any stones while living in a glass house. We collapsed onto the soaked bed and my cock was still throbbing that it felt like her kitty was still gripping my dick. When she finally left, I hugged my bear, and together, me and bear bathed, cleansing our souls from what had just happened.
Disclaimer: This story may have been fantasized or fictionalized to protect the identity of all parties involved. Interpretation should cautioned and be used only for entertainment purposes.
But aren't you continuously falling into MP's trap by responding?I try to avoid that by keeping my responses as short as possible and not giving him more attention than he deserves. Of course he doesn't deserve any attention at all IMO but unfortunately he gets quite a lot of attention from other BMs who seem to believe (almost) everything he's saying. Not feeding a troll only works if nobody is feeding him, so if there are people feeding him and believing him I have no choice but to stand up against him and try to do something about it.
Nevertheless I'm aware that it's most likely a waste of time. Sigh.
Interesting comments about going bare, but rarely is discussed that the standard STD tests to NOT check for herpes! Please, especially you married guys, keep that in mind. Your lovely Thai hooker may say she is tested regularly but is she testing for HSV? Probably not.
There are various things to catch regardless of Condoms sure, however that just distracts from condoms being effective for some things. A condom that did not come off or break is unlikely to cause a pregnancy.
I agree that bare backing hookers has plenty of risks, and HSV2 is one of them, although not life threatening. The exact likelihood of catching it seems little known. Similarly for girls with pussy warts HPV, how likely to catch is that. I have felt those warts with finger in pussy on a rare occasion. I might not be keen to BBFS without learning more first. More commonly I find sponge in pussy that can cause condom tears. That is dangerous. I refuse to fuck girls with sponges normally. Can't recall the last exception. Usually can persuade them to take it out, once they finally admit it. Sponges limit penetration too much for me and feel lousy not smooth.
HSV is true is rarely tested. It is not as big a deal as made out for many, since many people did not even know they had it.
Other recover and never get another attack. These are the fortunate ones.
I have tested for it currently. Did not have it at the time. I also did a long term test, called IgG I think.
Unfortunately it did not distinguish between HSV1 (cold sores) and HSV 2 genital herpes.
My first long term test was positive.
Some time later I got another long term test and asked for HSV 2 only test. The result showed negative to HSV1 & HSV2, not what I asked for.
But seemed to indicate I never had either. This time was done by the Red Cross, previously by Ekkamai hospital I think.
The truth is you can get false positives and false negatives, so in the end, I still don't know if ever had either of them.
Seems like there is no reliable test. It is only a faint indicator. Not sure if worthwhile to get any further tests for HSV. Could be a waste of time and money.
What if I get negative again next time. Will it prove anything useful? Not really.
Never had anything that looked exactly like HSV, to my knowledge.
One doctor suggested I had a cold sore, but a skin specialist quickly refuted that and indicated.
Was a simple bacteria infection (easily treatable).
Doctors don't know much about STDs really unless they specialise in it. Normal general practitioners can have misguided education or lack of good education and experience.
One doctor tried to tell me you cannot get an STD from a BJ or from sex with a condom (or from a toilet seat) and yet, I had one, which was immediate counter evidence. So he was essentially trying to say I was lying about what encounters happened. On different occasion caught Chlamydia eye from my finger (was in pussy), so I know how easy it is to catch. Doctors should know too.
Blanquiceleste
09-23-18, 12:28
I try to avoid that by keeping my responses as short as possible and not giving him more attention than he deserves. Of course he doesn't deserve any attention at all IMO but unfortunately he gets quite a lot of attention from other BMs who seem to believe (almost) everything he's saying. Not feeding a troll only works if nobody is feeding him, so if there are people feeding him and believing him I have no choice but to stand up against him and try to do something about it.
Nevertheless I'm aware that it's most likely a waste of time. Sigh.LMAO. What a lame argument. Like the forum needs a knight in shining armor to protect poor naive rookies from falling into the clutches of the vile MP. Me thinks someone is missing rescuing bar girls, so now resorting to rescue noobs.
Because MP is on ground that the respected seniors are all behind a keyboard.Talking about seniors behind a keyboard: recently you have posted in threads under Thailand, Singapore, Vietnam, Indonesia, China, Cambodia and The Philippines. And that's just September! It takes quite some time to keep up with the posts in all those countries and write replies to them.
LMAO. What a lame argument. Like the forum needs a knight in shining armor to protect poor naive rookies from falling into the clutches of the vile MP.Call it what you like but I just cannot stand trolls and other guys that clutter up the forum with all kinds of BS.
Blanquiceleste
09-23-18, 15:21
Call it what you like but I just cannot stand trolls and other guys that clutter up the forum with all kinds of BS.Last time I checked, there was no sheriff around these parts. And what you call BS may actually be valuable information to many. So then, who is the one misleading the noobs?
Talking about seniors behind a keyboard: recently you have posted in threads under Thailand, Singapore, Vietnam, Indonesia, China, Cambodia and The Philippines. And that's just September! It takes quite some time to keep up with the posts in all those countries and write replies to them.I have boots on ground in Asia. And my posts (barring ones on this thread) are all contributing to the intelligence on the other threads I post. Does not take that long really. Maybe an hour every day. I guess I manage my time quite well.
Wait a second! Am I the chosen one now after MP? I must be blessed indeed.
Wait a second! Am I the chosen one now after MP? I must be blessed indeed.Enjoy it while it lasts, LOL.
Banana Boi
09-23-18, 16:01
Wait a second! Am I the chosen one now after MP? OMG too funny. That made my day.
PedroMorales
09-23-18, 19:10
"A Story About Licking Leaking Lek"..Are the boobs natural? How many hookers has Teddy Bear bonked now? Has he been tested?
Why don't the well respected senior members & MP just meet up and settle this topic once and for all?That has been done (not by me) and nobody has had an unkind word about him even if his style is not their style. I remember The Paw from another board years ago and he operated the same way. Controversial but interesting. I would be happy to buy him a drink or three and watch him in action if the opportunity arose.
Maybe it's because I lived near Hollywood but I always appreciate a good story whether it is fact or fiction.
That has been done (not by me) and nobody has had an unkind word about him even if his style is not their style. I remember The Paw from another board years ago and he operated the same way. Controversial but interesting. I would be happy to buy him a drink or three and watch him in action if the opportunity arose.
Maybe it's because I lived near Hollywood but I always appreciate a good story whether it is fact or fiction.Haha. So you remember me gaining national attention with my story about the runaway girls? Haha. So funny! I started contributing to ISG when I started mongering internationally. I figure I took valuable information by lurking, so it was fair I gave back to ISG with my reports. I keep telling folks I am like God when it comes to finding UTRs (under the radar) gems. Below is how many felt about me in the past. I make ISG my home now and encourage other lurkers to subscribe and contribute.
In addition, over the long term, a typical working girl has an order of magnitude more partners than an typical punter, even if he's unusually active.
In my opinion, given the higher risk of HIV for the women, this makes a man demanding BBFS from a sex worker selfish and borderline abusive. Sure, there's usually semi-informed consent, but regardless of that, condoms are such an exceedingly simple solution that reduce the risk to the girl from substantial to negligible.
Even if I'm fully capable of convincing someone to voluntarily cross the street blindfolded for money, should I really be doing that?Sure, if the only thing accomplished in convincing someone to voluntarily cross the street blind-folded was for the money (them) and for the sadistic thrill of watching it (you), then the exchange would be abnormal and puzzling why many would bother. But since it turns out this kind of "street crossing" provides tremendous intrinsically natural pleasure for at least one party, often for both, and in many cases more than just some money but a significant amount of money for the other party, one can now understand why that kind of "street crossing" is done countless times every day and every hour of every day.
Let's say in your "selfish and borderline abuse by blind-folded street crossing" analogy that my strongly recommended circumcision + vasectomy + recent negative test document precautions add looking both ways up and down the street right before donning the blindfold to determine there are no cars on the street as far as the eye can see, not even a parked one, before stepping off the curb. Ok, we'll allow for that one-in-a-million chance some speed racer going 200 MPH might spin out of control and out of nowhere around the corner about the time we get half-way across that street, just to give a nod to nothing being perfect. I submit a street crossing after taking that precaution, blind-folded, even at the intersection of Sukhumvit and Asok, is very likely safer than crossing the street at Sukhumvit and Asok without a blind-fold during normal traffic conditions.
Then the topic also begs the question; why not do both or all of the above? If you're so concerned about not being selfish or abusive regarding putting a sex worker, a sometimes girlfriend or a booty call at risk of disease or unwanted pregnancy even if you try to use a condom every time, why stop at merely slipping on a condom when it is well-known that in actual, real-world practice and not theoretical or hypothetical white-coated scientists in a sterile lab environment conditions, condoms can and do fail to provide anything near 100% effectiveness? Why not also get circumcised, get a vasectomy and always have a very recent negative blood check document (for at least a couple of biggies) from a qualified clinic in your possession before proceeding with that "street crossing"? Especially since it is as well-known as the data on condom use under real world conditions that establishing those latter precautions are also very effective in avoiding unwanted pregnancy and transmission of disease.
The irony is my (and others) circumcision, vasectomy and blood check procedures WERE performed in approximate white-coated scientists in sterile lab environment conditions while the real world application of a condom, especially with regard to punters and sex workers, is all too often performed under conditions that are a chaotic mess. Not least of which being both parties involved in the procedure have likely had as many as 12-15 alcoholic beverages in the 5-6 hours leading up to the procedure and at least one of the two are either consciously or subconsciously rooting for the procedure to fail to be completed or not even attempted at all.
With all due respect ET for me this is not about whether you personally are a danger to your lady going BB, most likely tests not withstanding you are not. No the conversation is about the risks in going BB with somebody whose health situation is unknown. Having BB with somebody who is not a carrier of an STI other than the risk of pregnancy also nonexistent with a vasectomy, it is safe. The danger is not in transmitting it is in contacting. You can take all the precautions, washing, checking for telltale signs etc but you can never be sure the girl is not a carrier and while nothing is guaranteed by using condoms a bad outcome is significantly reduced.Well, I do think much of the discussion has also been about the punter putting the sex worker at risk of both unplanned pregnancy or disease (or boyfriend/husband re the girlfriend/wife) . I understand that might not be your primary concern or what you want to talk about. But I and others have been talking about that part of it as well.
True, the precautions I take cannot guarantee or assure the next girl I meet won't be riddled with disease and pass it along to me. Which can also happen even if you do wear a condom, BTW. But being circumcised certainly can reduce my catching some nasties (and my medical history would support that it probably did) and a recent blood test document can at least tell you how effective your precautions have been through decades of practicing them, to determine whether or not they have been working and are worth continuing.
There are various things to catch regardless of Condoms sure, however that just distracts from condoms being effective for some things. A condom that did not come off or break is unlikely to cause a pregnancy.
I agree that bare backing hookers has plenty of risks, and HSV2 is one of them, although not life threatening. The exact likelihood of catching it seems little known. Similarly for girls with pussy warts HPV, how likely to catch is that. I have felt those warts with finger in pussy on a rare occasion. I might not be keen to BBFS without learning more first. More commonly I find sponge in pussy that can cause condom tears. That is dangerous. I refuse to fuck girls with sponges normally. Can't recall the last exception. Usually can persuade them to take it out, once they finally admit it. Sponges limit penetration too much for me and feel lousy not smooth.
HSV is true is rarely tested. It is not as big a deal as made out for many, since many people did not even know they had it.
Other recover and never get another attack. These are the fortunate ones.
I have tested for it currently. Did not have it at the time. I also did a long term test, called IgG I think.
Unfortunately it did not distinguish between HSV1 (cold sores) and HSV 2 genital herpes.
My first long term test was positive.
Some time later I got another long term test and asked for HSV 2 only test. The result showed negative to HSV1 & HSV2, not what I asked for.
But seemed to indicate I never had either. This time was done by the Red Cross, previously by Ekkamai hospital I think.
The truth is you can get false positives and false negatives, so in the end, I still don't know if ever had either of them.
Seems like there is no reliable test. It is only a faint indicator. Not sure if worthwhile to get any further tests for HSV. Could be a waste of time and money.
What if I get negative again next time. Will it prove anything useful? Not really.
Never had anything that looked exactly like HSV, to my knowledge.
One doctor suggested I had a cold sore, but a skin specialist quickly refuted that and indicated.
Was a simple bacteria infection (easily treatable).
Doctors don't know much about STDs really unless they specialise in it. Normal general practitioners can have misguided education or lack of good education and experience.
One doctor tried to tell me you cannot get an STD from a BJ or from sex with a condom (or from a toilet seat) and yet, I had one, which was immediate counter evidence. So he was essentially trying to say I was lying about what encounters happened. On different occasion caught Chlamydia eye from my finger (was in pussy), so I know how easy it is to catch. Doctors should know too.My recent comprehensive physician's exam two weeks ago did not check for either HSV1 or HSV2 and I did not think to ask for one. Like you, I have never had what one could suspect after checking is a genital HSV2 outbreak. But I had childhood measles, so I assume I have some traces of HSV1 or whatever herpes strain is associated with that in my system as is the case with so many. I suppose that is the reason I have not felt it necessary to get checked for herpes. It is one of the most prevalent viruses on the planet and would likely be a rare case for it not to ever show up to some degree in a test anyway. Meanwhile, I have never had a physician push for me (or anyone else I know) getting tested for herpes. I think when you check the boxes for measles or whatever else on the admission form, that pretty much tells them what they need to know.
Buddy of mine who loves mongering in Pattaya claims to have gotten several maladies needing medical treatment even though he wears a condom during sex "all the time". Even one he got after getting a blowjob wearing a condom! Some guys are just abnormally receptive to getting anything and everything no matter the precautions they take I suppose.
Haha. So you remember me gaining national attention with my story about the runaway girls? Haha. So funny! I started contributing to ISG when I started mongering internationally. I figure I took valuable information by lurking, so it was fair I gave back to ISG with my reports. I keep telling folks I am like God when it comes to finding UTRs (under the radar) gems. Below is how many felt about me in the past. I make ISG my home now and encourage other lurkers to subscribe and contribute.I used to visit your part of the world often and read about the runaways while searching for info about girls. Can't remember all of the details but it did make you famous nationally. Glad you joined us here at ISG. You will be internationally famous in no time if you are not already.
But I had childhood measles, so I assume I have some traces of HSV1 or whatever herpes strain is associated with that in my system as is the case with so many. Can you explain why you mention measles. I had it as a child also, but don't see how relevant. HSV1 is known as "cold sores" and 65% of adult males have had it possibly higher in some countries. There are prophylactics for it, but probably not needed unless a high risk person. Valacyclovir maybe.
I don't know if I ever had cold sores. Did not have anything that looked like it, and I never had the pre tingling sensation often reported, like those who get one know its coming and can start treatment early. If we never had one before are we likely to get it late in life? No idea.
HSV2 is genital herpes but a bit less common. There is also Herpes Zoster (known as Shingles) VZV (perhaps a bit unrelated). This is possible subsequent to Chicken Pox I believe. My brother had this one with belly rashes. Other Herpes types? I heard of Epstein-Barr, human cytomegalovirus, but assume are rare. Human Herpes Virus 6 A and 6 B is little heard of but I read that most people tested have them quite possibly since age 1 month. Associated with some child illness.
Buddy of mine who loves mongering in Pattaya claims to have gotten several maladies needing medical treatment even though he wears a condom during sex "all the time". Even one he got after getting a blowjob wearing a condom! Some guys are just abnormally receptive to getting anything and everything no matter the precautions they take I suppose.I would take what your buddy says with a grain of salt. Some guys don't even remember what they did after being drunk. LOL You can catch something from finger in pussy and then rub your dick to make it hard even before the condom went on. Some bugs are very easy to catch for some people. Fortunately HIV is not one of them.
Catching Chlamydia in one eye shows the ease of transference to a sensitive area. My dick also had it once. Probably now 20 years since my last STD, yet a buddy had a dose of Gonor in his first week in Thailand. Behaviour matters. Certain behaviours can get something very quick. Choice of girl too! The girl chose him. He had no resistance, in more than one way.
My reglar Massage w BBBJ gal would happily take me deep and let me shoot, but dang if she'the never ever swallow. Always politely removed herself from our bed, mouth closed to hold my seed, then spit quietly in the bathroom. Nana condos but she's since moved back upcountry.Hi Chacal,
Can you empty your inbox, it's full and I can't answer your last email.
Thank you.
In addition, over the long term, a typical working girl has an order of magnitude more partners than an typical punter, even if he's unusually active.
In my opinion, given the higher risk of HIV for the women, this makes a man demanding BBFS from a sex worker selfish and borderline abusive. Sure, there's usually semi-informed consent, but regardless of that, condoms are such an exceedingly simple solution that reduce the risk to the girl from substantial to negligible.
Even if I'm fully capable of convincing someone to voluntarily cross the street blindfolded for money, should I really be doing that?Depends on the street. I think asking for BBFS is comparable to asking someone to cross the street blindfolded in a very quiet rural area after midnight, when there's hardly any traffic.
The problem is (as always in safe sex discussions) that most people think it's comparable to asking someone to cross Sukhumvit Road blindfolded in the rush hour.
Just a few questions to ask all you doubters.
Do the waters part for you when you want to get to Koh Larn?
Does that bottle of cheap plonk turn to a Grand Cru when you open it?
Does that ugly fugly you bar fined last night turn into a beautiful girl after she has spent a night with you?
Do the satangs in the begging bowls of the unfortunates turn to gold when you pass you hand over them?
Do the people follow you up the mound to listen to you tell them how to up their game?
Can you buy three large double cheeseburgers and feed 500 people?
No? I didn't think so oh ye of little faith.
Then why do you want to question on this forum the power and the glory of the special one who can.
I keep telling folks I am like God when it comes to finding UTRs (under the radar) gems. You were right Franciscass. This guy really thinks he's God. (Insert vomiting emoticon here.)
Can you explain why you mention measles. I had it as a child also, but don't see how relevant. HSV1 is known as "cold sores" and 65% of adult males have had it possibly higher in some countries. There are prophylactics for it, but probably not needed unless a high risk person. Valacyclovir maybe.
No reason except a misstatement on my part. LOL. I did have measles as a child. And the mumps. And scarlet fever. A fun childhood. But I meant to reference chickenpox there. Had that, too. And I definitely had a couple of cold sores along the way. But haven't had any recurrence of anything like those things since I was a kid.
Interesting the way the doctor referenced one benign result on my latest comprehensive exam; he said there are trace indications of "exposure" to this or that virus and showed me something indicating it on the computer monitor screen. Then he laughed and said, BTW, that is totally normal since just being in a hospital meant I have been "exposed" to certain viruses and means nothing with regard to actually being infected by them. The instruments are refined enough to pick up that kind of thing. Impressive. I wonder how many patients hear the first part of that kind of presentation, go deaf from shock, never hear or fully comprehend the next part and then limp out of the hospital certain they are doomed. We joked about how the only thing I could do to improve my exam results was to avoid hospitals at all cost. Oh, and maybe reduce my consumption of red meat a bit. LOL.
Just a few questions to ask all you doubters.
Do the waters part for you when you want to get to Koh Larn?
Does that bottle of cheap plonk turn to a Grand Cru when you open it?
Does that ugly fugly you bar fined last night turn into a beautiful girl after she has spent a night with you?
Do the satangs in the begging bowls of the unfortunates turn to gold when you pass you hand over them?
Do the people follow you up the mound to listen to you tell them how to up their game?
Can you buy three large double cheeseburgers and feed 500 people?
No? I didn't think so oh ye of little faith.
Then why do you want to question on this forum the power and the glory of the special one who can.All of those things are nice. But, despite the claims of game and magical powers, there was near zero written evidence (by him) to suggest MonkeyPaw was getting anything close to a True sexual/GFE in Thailand until he finally took heed of the sage advice from the seniors here for how and where to find it and to at least start expecting and negotiating for some in exchange for the massive amount of money he has to spend just to meet girls and take their photo. LOL.
imo, it is still doubtful he has yet to achieve that behind closed doors from the low grade erotic pulp fiction way he composes his sex session scenarios.
Crazy4Thai
09-24-18, 14:15
You got me. I know when I have been caught red handed in a lie. I have to admit, I have this sick obsession about browsing through various websites showing promo pics of hot girls and then making up fantasies about them. Sometimes I would go too far and try to find other random girls that look very similar to the ones on the promo websites, and take pictures. Just so I can make myself seem more credible. But you have to admit, I do a pretty good job at finding matches that somewhat resembles the website photos. The girl below doesn't quite look 100% like the actual girl in the promo website, but still pretty close. Wouldn't you agree? I've attached both pictures so folks can compare and to show you how hard I work at trying to find similar matches. I'm not perfect. Can't always get the girls to pose for pictures. So I can only do my best. Strangely, my best sure seems slightly, but not by much, better than most on here. There was a time when posted pics on my stories and reports would often showed the number of times they have been viewed. I can honestly say, I didn't click on my own photos 200 times, so apparently I do have an audience and following that knows how read and to enjoy. And for them, it's story time again. I will need a little bit of quiet and some attention please. SNIPPlease allow me to revise my judgement of the great Paw. Yup, almost every time you have provided a pic with the cum stained bear in it. Proof enough for me and I stand down. Mostly. The post that I was referring too is the one that took place at The Heidelberg Hotel. This post about VeeVee. http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=2136144&viewfull=1#post2136144.
I will not say that it is impossible to find attractive talent there. It could happen. I stand by my conclusion that in this instance you were just fucking with us rather than sharing valuable intel like you normally do. That place is Hag Central. As for the 2 pics attached, I see very high quality photography and no bear. So perhaps my peace flag is off white? You clearly are a photographer by profession or have missed your calling.
PS sometimes I would rather read your intel than the ever pervasive Theory of Mongering that fills these boards. But that is what happens when the Mongering Capital of the World has been trampled and written about for decades. Unfortunately we cannot all be Natty Bumpo, my vote for BM of The Year.
Franciscass
09-24-18, 14:43
As so often happens on the forum there is a lot of tooing and froing on an issue yet when you boil it down there really aren't any fundamental differences.
So, I feel we can all agree that if you're circumcised, had a vasectomy, test regularly, wash before and after, check your partner for telltale signs and pray to your god before and after you are being more than responsible and careful in staying healthy.
I feel we can all agree wearing a condom is not an absolute guarantee nothing bad will happen. We all know somebody who always wore a condom but now has 18 grandchildren, somebody who always wore a condom but still contacted a rare virus, his dick shriveled up and disappeared and somebody who also always wore a condom and now goes around carrying his balls in a wheelbarrow.
We can all agree that what goes on between informed consenting adults in what they do and what risks they take is nobody's business but their own.
But let's also admit the reality that unprotected sex is not as safe as protected sex.
To deny that is to join the climate change deniers, the flat earth society, those that tell you the guy sitting beside you in the go go is part of the vanguard from another galaxy and that MP is for real.
Please allow me to revise my judgement of the great Paw. Yup, almost every time you have provided a pic with the cum stained bear in it. Except that the chick in the white shirt holding the teddy bear looks like a post op lady boy. It's not surprising that one gave a good BJ.
Are the boobs natural? How many hookers has Teddy Bear bonked now? Has he been tested?If you are referring to the girl in the story below. I wouldn't know. It's all made up. I only grabbed a girl from the streets who looked like the girl in the promo picture and fed her a homemade meatless spaghetti dinner in exchange for the pictures. Yes, I don't eat meat. That keeps me under a BMI of 21. But you have to admit, I can often find girls who somewhat resemble those pics.
"A Story About Licking Leaking Lek".
Getting to fucking a Go Go bar girl is easy. Getting to fucking a hot Go Go bar girl is harder. Now getting to fuck hot Go Go bar girl while she is still wearing her dance or club outfit is the hardest. (Actually, there is one that is more difficult. Fucking a hot Go Go bar girl while "you" are wearing her dance outfit, might be impossible. But I rather not know). Now on with the story of Leaking Lek. It is rumored on somewhere on Walking Street is a girl who gets off on the pleasures of her own hands and is able to gush. She does this on request or just for the hell of it because she wants to. Many have gone in search of her hoping to quench their own thirst for the nectar that flows from her love mound. Because as legend tells it, there are powers, like eternal youth, gained from its consumption. This is a story in search of this mythical nymph named Lek. For those of you who honestly get bored of your own routine when it comes to sex. Variety is the spice of life, but sometimes even that gets boring, same routine with a different girl..
Just a few questions to ask all you doubters.
Do the waters part for you when you want to get to Koh Larn?
Does that bottle of cheap plonk turn to a Grand Cru when you open it?
Does that ugly fugly you bar fined last night turn into a beautiful girl after she has spent a night with you?
Do the satangs in the begging bowls of the unfortunates turn to gold when you pass you hand over them?
Do the people follow you up the mound to listen to you tell them how to up their game?
Can you buy three large double cheeseburgers and feed 500 people?
Then why do you want to question on this forum the power and the glory of the special one who can.Do you find yourself magically transformed into an interesting person after sitting in the back of a plane all night?
PedroMorales
09-25-18, 10:16
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6204801/Bodies-missing-British-millionaire-wife-found.html
A report here of a British millionaire murdered by his Thai inlaws. Note how quickly their car was sold and sold again. Dangerous networks Mr Farang knows norhing about.
I used to visit your part of the world often and read about the runaways while searching for info about girls. Can't remember all of the details but it did make you famous nationally. Glad you joined us here at ISG. You will be internationally famous in no time if you are not already.Do you remember how I used to post pics of the girls holding my favorite "I've beenMonkeypawed" sign? Those were the good ole days when I was just coming into my own. And I did that shit where prostitution was illegal and banned. It drew attention from everybody on the internet. Monkeypaw was able to turn normal "the girls next door" type into hot hookers. All the professionals seasoned female escorts in the USA got all angry and accused me of being a pimp. I was just bored and having fun. The escorts hated me, some refused to book me, so I would find my own newbies and UTR girls. Then I always shared. Funny as fuck, those days! That's why I keep telling folks here. When will they realize that having Monkeypaw as contributing member on their board is a a GOOD thing.
If anybody wonders what it means to "have been Monkeypawed," then here is a small list of some Monkeypaw antics.
1. If it's sprinkling rain on Walking Street, and a random stranger goes under your umbrella and walks with you. You are getting Monkeypawed.
2. Once inside a Go Go club, if you and your friends are unnecessarily hogging up seats, and a random stranger tells you with his hands to move closer together, so he can sit. Then you've just been Monkeypawed.
3. If the dancer whom you bought a drink for and are sitting with, is smiling, chatting, and filling the drink glass belonging to some random guy on the other side of her. You are getting Monkeypawed.
4. If you sitting with a draft beer mug, minding your own business, and a random customer across the club plays beer pong in your drink. And a ping pong ball has found its way in your mug. You've been Monkeypawed.
5. If you are sitting close to the stage, behaving creepily, and keep getting pounced on the back and side of your head with ping pong balls. You are getting Monkeypawed.
6. If you are a dancer and you hear the bell ring for "buy all ladies on stage a drink," and then you aren't given one by the waitress. You have been Monkeypawed.
7. When you are at a Go Go bar and the waitress brings you back your change from paying the bill. You count your change, decide to leave nothing. But then a random stranger snatches 40 baht from your hands and leaves it on the metal tray. You've been Monkeypawed.
8. If you are leaving the club with the girl you barfined, and on the way out, she smiles, winks, and touches some random guy. You've been Monkeypawed.
9. When you are having sex and hear her yell anything resembling Monkeypaw's real name, or heck, even if your hear an "Oh my God," you are getting Monkeypawed.
10. And lastly, if you find yourself constantly hiding behind a keyboard, always complaining, and trolling a targeted user, instead of going out and living life. You've been Monkeypawed. You are getting Monkeypawed. And you will be Monkeypawed, always.
I could keep going on and on. But mercy. Just keep in mind that should the spirit of Monkeypaw should be a way for living life, freely, and without fear from what others say or think. But to always know that deep down you are true blue and GOOD. That there is true freedom in this world of hell. Most who engage in P4 P on this board already have a bit of this spirit in them. We know that paying for pussy gives us more freedom, while the rest of the world lives in their fantasy land of marriage and relationships. Now those who understand this just step up a bit, and you will enter into Monkeypaw's world.
But let's also admit the reality that unprotected sex is not as safe as protected sex.
To deny that is to join the climate change deniersThere are risks in both driving the car and sitting on the roof of the car. One is exciting and the risks do go up but sitting under that open sunroof let's in some of the danger. The safest alternative is to stay at home on abstinence Blvd. Climate change is like taking a hike in the woods, always pack up the shit you brought in with you. Please start taking those used condoms home with you.
But let's also admit the reality that unprotected sex is not as safe as protected sex.
To deny that is to join the climate change deniers, the flat earth society, those that tell you the guy sitting beside you in the go go is part of the vanguard from another galaxy and that MP is for real.I don't think I have read anyone disagreeing about that and asserting unprotected sex is as safe as protected (condom) sex. I have only been asserting that there are definitely ways to go bareback and BE safer for the girl (and yourself) than relying only on the way condoms are applied all too often in the real world and not in pristine lab conditions.
So, since you are aware that being circumcised, getting a vasectomy, always having a recent negative blood check document and the other things you mentioned are known to reduce the risk of unplanned pregnancy and transmission of disease and, I would argue, will always be safer for both parties than meaning well but occasionally "forgetting" to put on a condom, being too drunk to put one on properly, having one slip off, break, tear or simply not be insisted upon by the girl crawling into bed with you, have you taken those measures to make sure you and the girl are as safe as you know you could be no matter what happens to or with a condom?
If you have not, then I submit you are also among the climate change deniers and flat earth proponents in thinking you are doing enough to be safer by putting a condom in your pocket on the way out the door to monger.
Franciscass
09-26-18, 05:22
If you have not, then I submit you are also among the climate change deniers and flat earth proponents in thinking you are doing enough to be safer by putting a condom in your pocket on the way out the door to monger.ET,
With respect you're conflating a situation where condoms are not properly used with when they are properly used. Of course if for whatever reason a condom either malfunctions or is not used then the risks are no different than going BB. In those circumstances I agree with you, the precautions you take puts you in a better position. That said putting on a condom is simple, the girl usually has one or as lots of members do they bring their own. I agree with you they are never a 100% guarantee, you agree with me they are safer than no condom. So we agree? At least I think we agree.
In addition, over the long term, a typical working girl has an order of magnitude more partners than an typical punter, even if he's unusually active.
In my opinion, given the higher risk of HIV for the women, this makes a man demanding BBFS from a sex worker selfish and borderline abusive. Sure, there's usually semi-informed consent, but regardless of that, condoms are such an exceedingly simple solution that reduce the risk to the girl from substantial to negligible.
Even if I'm fully capable of convincing someone to voluntarily cross the street blindfolded for money, should I really be doing that?The guy's logic maybe that he is much less likely to have HIV than she is, since he was tested not long ago. This is true. She may not be being exposed to further risk. It's all those other guys she already did that were ambi-dextrous or drug users, etc.
Girls should say no to any type of weird guys, and better still see his recent test results, and charge him a lot of money and be sure of good birth control, etc.
I know I have put girls out of action temporarily due to uterus bruising not STDs, and I don't even pound at all. You could argue I am selfish to want to fuck girls at all, but it might be using too much imagination. Even kissing the girls can give her a bad cold or the flu. There are always risks of various types.
Even condoms can break and girl can get pregnant. That is more likely than giving her HIV.
PedroMorales
09-26-18, 10:36
If you are referring to the girl in the story below. I wouldn't know. It's all made up. I only grabbed a girl from the streets who looked like the girl in the promo picture and fed her a homemade meatless spaghetti dinner in exchange for the pictures. Yes, I don't eat meat. That keeps me under a BMI of 21. But you have to admit, I can often find girls who somewhat resemble those pics.I know you are only a pimp for the teddy bear. Does Teddy Bear Back them? Does teddy does tree-sums.
Not say that it is impossible to find attractive talent there. It could happen. I stand by my conclusion that in this instance you were just fucking with us...To be able to "fuck" with others, means that person has power over others. A homeless man living on the streets cannot fuck with another person about where to find the best guest friendly hotels. A person with HIV cannot fuck with others about advice for best safe sex practices. A 3 year old cannot fuck with an adult about is Santa Claus real or not. You realize where this conversation is heading right? It goes back what I have always said. We all are playing in different worlds, at different levels, with different powers. Just like P4P, you can't fuck with those who aren't willing.
P.S. Natty gets my vote too. His reviews are better. Mine just have "a life" of their own.
Mr. Paw,
I appreciate your posts, but numbers 4, 5 and 7 in my neck of the woods gets you 86 ed at the best and the shit kicked out of you at the worst. Just my 2 satangs.
I know you are only a pimp for the teddy bear. Does Teddy Bear Back them? Does teddy does tree-sums.The teddy bear protects them from my bad behavior and antics. Like the snake in the bathroom.
Mr. Paw,
I appreciate your posts, but numbers 4, 5 and 7 in my neck of the woods gets you 86 ed at the best and the shit kicked out of you at the worst. Just my 2 satangs.You must either be an Aussie or a Texan. LOL. I'm an Aussie and thinking the same.
PedroMorales
09-27-18, 09:23
The teddy bear protects them from my bad behavior and antics. Like the snake in the bathroom.It looks like Teddy is defending the young lady's honour from the snake, which could have a spy cam in its mouth. How about a photo of teddy face fucking one of the young ladies, or maybe spit roasting her with the snake?
4. If you sitting with a draft beer mug, minding your own business, and a random customer across the club plays beer pong in your drink. And a ping pong ball has found its way in your mug. You've been Monkeypawed.
Ping Pong balls are extremely childish and indicate you are dumb enough to be sucked in by the management.
1. Means you are giving random tips, to any stupid girl lucky enough to catch one, or particularly to more aggressive girls.
2. You are happy that the owner rakes in at least 50% of the pong tips.
Girls occasionally get injured in the mad scramble to grab a pong.
If you are smart, you give cash tips to only those that deserve it, and where you are looking to have those girls com back to you in the future. Don't waste 50% of your tips on the owner.
You must either be an Aussie or a Texan. LOL. I'm an Aussie and thinking the same.Alaskan. Ya don't do shit like that in the AK.
Alaskan. Ya don't do shit like that in the AK.LOL. There are some things no one should mess with.
Member #4698
09-28-18, 05:56
If you are smart, you give cash tips to only those that deserve it, and where you are looking to have those girls com back to you in the future. Don't waste 50% of your tips on the owner.Tips if applied intelligently and regularly yield special attention and better service in your favorite places. I was taught the art of the tip from experts a long time ago. For example one mentor of mine used to like dropping by his favorite Chicago steak house on Friday nights around 8 pm without a reservation. Waiting time normally would have been an hour or more for a walk in customer without a reservation, but he did not need a reservation because he tipped strategically and generously every time he went there. Thus everyone that mattered at that steak house knew him. The owner, the matre 'd, the chef, and the waitresses. The result was he always got a table without waiting. He was always brought his favorite scotch without asking and his meal was always prepared just the way he liked it. It was something to see!
On a similar, but much lesser level, I strategically tip in my favorite Go Go's and Bordellos as well and receive similar results. For example in regards to Crazy House and Baccara, before my Mini quit working there, I never had to buy a drink before entering, My 2 favorite CH waitress know exactly where I like to sit, what I like to order initially, and which girls I come to see. Woe to some poor Korean chap who is taking up too much space in my corner. LOL. Fat waitress will dispatch him with efficiency. It's like they don't know what is happening except they have to move over fast or be verbally abused. LOL. Mamasan knows me well too and gives me special considerations even when she has not seen me for 10 months. All the girls notice the special treatment I receive even though I am currently only seeing 3 CH girls. But my point is, CH is my home bar and I am treated really well there. If you don't care about these kind of things or are not in a position to take advantage of them, then don't tip.
The art of the tip, thus, is to generously tip those individuals who appreciate your tip and are in a position to give you the special attention and service that you seek. To tip others or to tip broadly for non specific reason is a waste IMHO. I partuclarly dislike doorman who have the gaul to ask for a tip for doing absolutely nothing as I am leaving certain bordellos. I blame management for this bad behavior of their employees.
The Ping Pong gimmick is not my thing either. I even dislike witnessing it on those rare occasions when mostly NE Asian punters engage in it in certain Go Go's. Not only do I think it is a conspicuous waste of money, I also think it is demeaning to the girls. It is not question of whether you can afford to throw money away. It is a question of A) Respect for money and B) Respect for the girls. But hey, if some of you guys like to do it, then do it. I am not trying to criticize anyone in particular, but I do think you can get more bang for your buck in other ways. 555.
On a similar, but much lesser level, I strategically tip in my favorite Go Go's and Bordellos as well and receive similar results. For example in regards to Crazy House and Baccara, before my Mini quit working there, I never had to buy a drink before entering, My 2 favorite CH waitress know exactly where I like to sit, what I like to order initially, and which girls I come to see. Woe to some poor Korean chap who is taking up too much space in my corner. LOL. Fat waitress will dispatch him with efficiency. It's like they don't know what is happening except they have to move over fast or be verbally abused. LOL. Mamasan knows me well too and gives me special considerations even when she has not seen me for 10 months. All the girls notice the special treatment I receive even though I am currently only seeing 3 CH girls. But my point is, CH is my home bar and I am treated really well there. If you don't care about these kind of things or are not in a position to take advantage of them, then don't tip.
You almost fooled me here. For a moment I thought I was reading one of MP's posts about his 'special powers'. Be careful Natty, before you know it you start bragging about your 'game' LOL.
Only joking of course.
Member #4698
09-29-18, 05:36
You almost fooled me here. For a moment I thought I was reading one of MP's posts about his 'special powers'.555. That's funny.
PaulAlbert
09-29-18, 09:44
With the Thai Government seeming to relax regulations on marijunana and kratom for medical use how easy or reliable is it so get some quality weed in Bangkok or Pattaya? Would it still be a no go zone filled with corrupt cops trying to set up poor farang tourists for a cheap payoff or are the authorities catching up to the West?
Robert Long
09-29-18, 21:03
You almost fooled me here. For a moment I thought I was reading one of MP's posts about his 'special powers'. Be careful Natty, before you know it you start bragging about your 'game' LOL.
Only joking of course.We were in CH 2 weeks ago and the ladies were pretty bad. Then the Japanese and their habit of chain smoking while drinking. A couple of Japanese sat out side our table and when one brought an ashtray I told him no not here and he was humble enough to take it away. I noticed that 80% of the men were Japanese. When we tried to enter we were stopped and told we have to order outside before we entered. I know the fat mamasan and told them to call her. I want a good seat before I ordered. They backed off and a server showed us to our table.
My buddy had an offer from 95 and she was wired up on something, couldn't sit still. He bought her a drink and they discussed prices and he choked. 700 BF and 3000ST. I would rate her as an 6 out of ten. And that s being generous. We also stopped at LoLi__s and the girls were horrible. Noticed many clubs closed in Soi Cowboy. The Coyotes were very quiet and not aggressive. I tried to talk to a few but I don't think that any of them can speak English. Like they are just in from the country and in training on the outside. Went to Thermae on Thursday night and it was closed. Didn't try again as GF just arrived the next day.
RL.
With the Thai Government seeming to relax regulations on marijunana and kratom for medical use how easy or reliable is it so get some quality weed in Bangkok or Pattaya? Would it still be a no go zone filled with corrupt cops trying to set up poor farang tourists for a cheap payoff or are the authorities catching up to the West?You are posting in the right forum. Give it a shot and if you can smuggle any phones or tablets into the "Bangkok Hilton" write a post and tell us all how it worked out!!
With the Thai Government seeming to relax regulations on marijunana and kratom for medical use how easy or reliable is it so get some quality weed in Bangkok or Pattaya? Would it still be a no go zone filled with corrupt cops trying to set up poor farang tourists for a cheap payoff or are the authorities catching up to the West?Go to Laos or Cambo. Or if you know somebody, you can get away with it upcountry. If the person you know is a "somebody".
Otherwise. Forget it in Bangkok and never in Pattaya. Ya Dong is a good substitute, especially if you get it from a mc taxi dude instead of 7-11.
PaulAlbert
09-30-18, 08:07
Go to Laos or Cambo. Or if you know somebody, you can get away with it upcountry. If the person you know is a "somebody".
Otherwise. Forget it in Bangkok and never in Pattaya. Ya Dong is a good substitute, especially if you get it from a mc taxi dude instead of 7-11.Its really too bad that Thailand and SE Asia are still in the stone ages when it comes to marijuana. Sometimes its really nice to chill out with a joint on a beach but I guess not for another few decades with the way things go in these places of the World.
With the Thai Government seeming to relax regulations on marijunana and kratom for medical use how easy or reliable is it so get some quality weed in Bangkok or Pattaya? Would it still be a no go zone filled with corrupt cops trying to set up poor farang tourists for a cheap payoff or are the authorities catching up to the West?I never heard of kratom (GraThom). So had to look it up.
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My GF reckons she can order Ganja (marijuana) from Bangkok and go pick it up from the Post Office. However she pulls my leg a lot, so not sure if she is just kidding. Her own Bush keeled over. Seems its an annual. I had few clues myself, not a smoker of any type. She would not take it into town. That would be dangerous. Police do exist and would want bribes.
I never heard of kratom (GraThom). So had to look it up.
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My GF reckons she can order Ganja (marijuana) from Bangkok and go pick it up from the Post Office. However she pulls my leg a lot, so not sure if she is just kidding. Her own Bush keeled over. Seems its an annual. I had few clues myself, not a smoker of any type. She would not take it into town. That would be dangerous. Police do exist and would want bribes.Lot of the upcountry folks grow it as a medicinal herb, brewing a tea or mixing it with food. I have seen grannies smoke it. But no Granny is going to get busted, whilst Mr. Stoner Falang is.
Ya Dong is a good substitute, especially if you get it from a mc taxi dude instead of 7-11.Ya dong a substitute for marijuana? Not really as it is a liquor to drink and not to smoke. It's made of Thai white alcohol (very cheap) with some medicinal herbs. You can find many different ones used for healing this or that illness, or to help your dick to get up and many other things that I'm not aware of. And there is no way to find this stuff in a 7-11 as it's not an industrial product.
Mr Enternational
09-30-18, 15:40
I never heard of kratom (GraThom). So had to look it up.
Now that is a shocker. Something that you didn't know. There was even a big to do a few years back about some white chick dying in Phuket because they used it in some adult beverages.
Ya dong a substitute for marijuana? Not really as it is a liquor to drink and not to smoke. It's made of Thai white alcohol (very cheap) with some medicinal herbs. You can find many different ones used for healing this or that illness, or to help your dick to get up and many other things that I'm not aware of. And there is no way to find this stuff in a 7-11 as it's not an industrial product.1. The first part was a joke.
2. Green bottle. White liquor with herbs I'm told. Lower shelves here in Thonburi. My friend always tries to get me to drink it.
Franciscass
10-01-18, 06:31
While weed is widely available, caught buying even a few grams is risking a minimum of 50 K potentially a lot more and even possible doing some time. Absolutely not advisable sourcing it on the fly.
Ya dong a substitute for marijuana? Not really as it is a liquor to drink and not to smoke. It's made of Thai white alcohol (very cheap) with some medicinal herbs. You can find many different ones used for healing this or that illness, or to help your dick to get up and many other things that I'm not aware of. And there is no way to find this stuff in a 7-11 as it's not an industrial product.Nope I don't think Ya Dong is going to help get your dick up at all. I previously imagined the Ya Dong at gogo bars used herbs for flavouring only. It does may the girls less self conscious, more raunchy and more horny. I saw one very shy bar girl turned into a raging raunchy ****. LOL This is from the alcohol mostly. I doubt if they put Ganja or similar herbs in the Ya Dong, but you never know. Tasted likes cloves, cinnamon etc. At Crazy House.
GF makes her own Yaa Dong sometimes. Lao Khao (white spirit) with honey and 12 herbs she says. She can't even say which herbs are used. Thais regard almost all herbs "Samoon Phrai" as "Yaa" medicinal. They even consider honey to be a medicine.
Chartreuse is a very strong sweet liquor with herbal flavouring, also good for getting girls drunk, in western countries.
I guess Ya Dong is a bit like a back woods variety (and not so sweet).
Even heard that one bottl of beer per day is "Yaa" medicinal, but more than that bad for your health. LOL.
GF makes her own Yaa Dong sometimes. Lao Khao (white spirit) with honey and 12 herbs she says. She can't even say which herbs are used. Thais regard almost all herbs "Samoon Phrai" as "Yaa" medicinal. They even consider honey to be a medicine.Its an Asian thing. My ex Japanese used to say, even for normal foods "eat, good for body". Natto. Exceptional for body.
I was told that medical marijuana is on the ballot and will be voted on in 2019. Maybe there is still hope.
Nope I don't think Ya Dong is going to help get your dick up at all.Once I was staying with a so called GF in Pattaya and I was prescribed a lot of antibiotics for a skin infection that came from the dirty water they used during Songkran. I had a hard time and my dick couldn't get up at all and back then I didn't want to take Vitamine V or some pills. Then the GF suggested that we go and find some Yaa dong to drink because it was known for making people horny. So we took my bike and made a round of all the places that might have some, and they were all making some jokes when they knew for wich reason we wanted to buy that stuff. They 've got a lot of variety, each one is supposed to heal one illness. Anyway the one that we took had the same effect than alcohol for me, didn't get my tool up but it sent me to sleep pretty quickly. I recall that the GF liked it a lot though. In western Europe the "Bois bandé" that comes from French Antilla is well know for that also (some alcohol liquor with a special piece of wood inside, I drank that also but didn't see the effects).
Another time I had another GF in Bkk who was doing her Yaa dong herself, but that one was for medicinal use only and she would never drink that for getting horny. She was told by a Chinese herborist that by putting these herbs and drinking this stuff everyday, that could heal a cancer.
She didn't want to tell about the cancer but I suspect that she was probably infected by the HPV Virus and someone told her that it will surely become a cancer in the next years and she tried to heal that by a "natural" way.
Blanquiceleste
10-01-18, 14:29
They even consider honey to be a medicine.There is sufficient evidence to show honey has medicinal properties. The issue with allopathy (the treatment of disease by conventional means, I. E. With drugs having effects opposite to the symptoms) that is most commonly used in the western world, is that it considers all other forms of treatment as inferior and "unscientific". Of course, that is mere narrative so the big pharma companies can continue to make their billions.
Here is a proper research article on the medicinal properties of honey. Read when you have time.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3609166/
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