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Member #4587

11-10-18, 19:24

No they would not. As I have pointed out before, the reason that most hookers are hookers is because they are just fucking lazy. They are not trying to have a job where they have to actually work.

In the Pattaya thread the other day FL Hawk wrote about a chick he met in Thailand last year. Her excuse for being a hooker was that her mom was sick with cancer or whatever and her sister died leaving her to bear all the burden. The other day he saw the chick in the same place he met her 1 year ago. She said her mom had died. Okay. So what excuse did she have now for being a hooker? And I must point out again thay Thailand has one of the lowest unemployment rates in the world.

As we sit here in VM I pointed out to Pokeris what I mean. This lazy ass broads don't want to do shit else but fuck for money. The one chick didn't even know the price of the beer. I asked how do you work here and you don't know the price? She said I am just here to fuck. Chicks in here too lazy to go get their own food and cocaine. They keep making this guy go out and do shit while they sit here on their asses.Low lever education does not give you a good paid jobs. Probably the girl was continuing because with her income that was the best solution to continue, no way out. Statistics does not bring the jobs, skills and education does.

Mr Enternational

11-10-18, 19:29

Low lever education does not give you a good paid jobs. Probably the girl was continuing because with her income that was the best solution to continue, no way out. Statistics does not bring the jobs, skills and education does.Make all the excuses in the world for them, but like I said there are too many women that are not hookers for the ones that are to have to be hookers, and from your arguement "low class" hookers at that. So why do the ones that you pay thousands of dollars do it? Surely those higher class hookers have more education and make more money on a regular job than these low education ones.

Member #4587

11-10-18, 19:31

A lot of talk about how shitty VM is.
Below a couple of samples of VM-girls.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=69708&d=1177569360
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=53565&d=1159017429
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=69810&d=1177679812
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=53556&d=1159017385
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=53912&d=1159508307
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=53557&d=1159017393
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=53564&d=1159017429
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=53566&d=1159017429
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=219425&d=1427441043
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=95593&d=1211107776
Finally some VM b*tches.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=70167&d=1178276945Favela rules, right? LOL Is there a reason that you post pictures of not fuckable uglies? Now, who has from those a college education from private school? Was your threesome enjoyable (last picture)?

Sperto

11-10-18, 20:35

Favela rules, right?. LOL Is there a reason that you post pictures of not fuckable uglies? Now, who has from those a college education from private school?
When it comes to paid p*ssy, a Patricinha p*ssy or favela p*ssy, no difference. When I studied at PUC in Rio I got more Patricinha p*ssy than you will ever sniff. Favela p*ssy taste just as good. If I'm going to spend 1 hour with the girl with my d*ck inside her I don't care about her education.

Member #4587

11-10-18, 20:56

When it comes to paid p*ssy, a Patricinha p*ssy or favela p*ssy, no difference. When I studied at PUC in Rio I got more Patricinha p*ssy than you will ever sniff. Favela p*ssy taste just as good. If I'm going to spend 1 hour with the girl with my d*ck inside her I don't care about her education.For you is no difference, for me is huge. Either you have a class and taste or not. How come you know how many Patricinha pussies I have sniffed and ever will? You sneaked in the ladies bathroom to see Patricinhas pussies or had then enough money to paid for it? WOW! You can keep a dick inside of girl during 1 hour!? Just WOW! A new Guinness record holder is here! Of course you do not care education or the look based on your pictures, to get a paid girl is a celebration for you.

Sperto

11-10-18, 21:43

For you is no difference, for me is huge. Either you have a class and taste or not. How come you know how many Patricinha pussies I have sniffed and ever will? You sneaked in the ladies bathroom to see Patricinhas pussies or had then enough money to paid for it? WOW! You can keep a dick inside of girl during 1 hour!? Just WOW! A new Guinness record holder is here! Of course you do not care education or the look based on your pictures, to get a paid girl is a celebration for you.I feel sorry for you, so bitter. Take care and good luck. Over and out!

Member #4587

11-10-18, 22:02

I feel sorry for you, so bitter. Take care and good luck. Over and out!I do not feel sorry for you, you get what you deserve! No need to be bitter when my level his much more higher. Premium look in premium room with premium quality for premium price. Take care and good luck!

Java Man

11-10-18, 22:17

I feel sorry for you, so bitter. Take care and good luck. Over and out!I perused his posts, (I had nutin better to do.) His first post was in 2012, then there was a 2 yr gap. When he returned he was sharing info. For some reason, he turned into a serial antagonist around the end of the first quarter of this year. The only recent recommendation he's made was in July of this year for AM Royal in St Petersburg Russia. He paid the Very High End premium price of $88 usd. Surprisingly, he writes he went with a friend. (he has friends with that condescending attitude?)

Unfortunately, I can't see the poor chick he was with on the website, (she probably quit after meeting him, LOL).

http://www.intimspb.ru/girls/salon.8

Don't feel sorry for him, Sperto. People like that bring it upon themselves. He's trolling this thread. Best thing to do is Ignore him.

Sperto

11-10-18, 22:32

Don't feel sorry for him, Sperto.I don't really feel sorry for him, it's just my way of showing education. If he caught fire, I wouldn't even...
My fault, if I had checked his history of posts before I wouldnt even have bother to answered his posts.

Member #4587

11-10-18, 22:35

I perused his posts, (I had nutin better to do.) His first post was in 2012, then there was a 2 yr gap. When he returned he was sharing info. For some reason, he turned into a serial antagonist around the end of the first quarter of this year. The only recent recommendation he's made was in July of this year for AM Royal in St Petersburg Russia. He paid the Very High End premium price of $88 usd. Surprisingly, he writes he went with a friend. (he has friends with that condescending attitude?)

Unfortunately, I can't see the poor chick he was with on the website, (she probably quit after meeting him, LOL).

http://www.intimspb.ru/girls/salon.8

Don't feel sorry for him, Sperto. People like that bring it upon themselves. He's trolling this thread. Best thing to do is Ignore him.For those who pay for non hygienic pussy 15 usd, price of 88 usd is premium. I do not recommend more higher price girls because here is no audience for those. Both girls are still in the website, but seems that you have not used to recognize other than ugly favela girls in sh..thole rooms because in those places you feel at home. You do not found them there! Stay on your level, it is a win-win.

TomJackin

11-10-18, 23:41

I feel sorry for you, so bitter. Take care and good luck. Over and out!I don't feel sorry for loser posters!

They have nothing to contribute to this site and should be banned!

Member #4587

11-11-18, 00:17

I don't feel sorry for loser posters!

They have nothing to contribute to this site and should be banned!I do not feel sorry for any VM fans. It is their path of life at the best. What do they give to others? Recommendations for dirty rooms with lack of showers and elementary hygiene (sheets, dirty mattress), cheer for having sex for pennies with poor non educated ugly favela girls. If this is contribution, then this site is certainly in trash level. You are at the same level as the girls with whom you spend the time with. Now you want me to be banned! The truth hurts so much?

TomJackin

11-11-18, 00:33

Now you want me to be banned! The truth hurts so much?What made you think I was talking about you?

Member #4732

11-11-18, 00:47

Some people confuse cash with class.

Some people confuse arrogance with success.

Some people confuse contempt with respect.

Member #4587

11-11-18, 00:49

What made you think I was talking about you?When Sperto felt sorry about me due to his education of empathy, you replied to his post and asked not to feel. Isn't that obvious?

Member #4587

11-11-18, 00:55

I think that I had enough of that RJ trash BS. Therefore, I have nothing to add what I previously wrote. I get to know who is who and that is enough. I keep on my level, you keep yours, light years away. It does not mean that I am gone but I might take a break, depends of the audience demand. LOL.

Golfinho

11-11-18, 00:59

I do not feel sorry for any VM fans. It is their path of life at the best. What do they give to others? Recommendations for dirty rooms with lack of showers and elementary hygiene (sheets, dirty mattress), cheer for having sex for pennies with poor non educated ugly favela girls. If this is contribution, then this site is certainly in trash level. You are at the same level as the girls with whom you spend the time with. Now you want me to be banned! The truth hurts so much?This forum is a big tent. You have to expect the discourse can descend to the lowest common denominator, just like some people live their lives at the lowest common level. Just be glad they're at the VM's of the world, and not where you go.

MongerForSex

11-11-18, 01:37

When Sperto felt sorry about me due to his education of empathy, you replied to his post and asked not to feel. Isn't that obvious?You don't need any education of empathy when you monger. Acting like a sociopath is the best way to be successful in monger. Fuck before getting fucked. Leave your empathy alone.

Today I went to a trash club called Vanessa 05 (RUA Leandro Martins 05 - Centro). I found a stunning woman, her name is ceris. Slim, morena and good looking. I only paid 55 reais for 15 minutes. She offered BBBJ and I cumed on her mouth. Trash clubs are good for fast fuck or BBBJ. But the room was very dirty.

Don't get me wrong. I hit termas every week. I am not cheap.

Pricing list in 05.

55 reais 15 minutes.

65 reais 20 minutes.

90 reais 30 minutes.

100 reais 40 minutes.

150 reais 1 HR.

VM is a good place, you can find some stunners but their rooms are as dirty as trash clubs in centro. I just get BBBJ in VM.

TomJackin

11-11-18, 03:12

Party people in the house. You are about to witness something you have never witnessed before. Yes it is Mr Enternational's fresh photos. Straight out of Vila Mimosa. That he took when even Pokeris didn't know he was taking them. So for those that have never been. Here you go!

P. S. Today I realized that they clean the hell out of that place for it to be so dirty.Great pics my brother!

Don't worry about pathetic losers' opinions.

They have nothing to contribute to this site and should be banned!

Member #4587

11-11-18, 03:18

Party people in the house. You are about to witness something you have never witnessed before. Yes it is Mr Enternational's fresh photos. Straight out of Vila Mimosa. That he took when even Pokeris didn't know he was taking them. So for those that have never been. Here you go!

P. S. Today I realized that they clean the hell out of that place for it to be so dirty.Mission Impossible: Search at least a one girl who is not f...ng ugly!

Member #4587

11-11-18, 03:19

Great pics my brother!

Don't worry about pathetic losers' opinions.

They have nothing to contribute to this site and should be banned!Real life pathetic losers are all in VM.

TomJackin

11-11-18, 07:36

It's all yours Mr. Traveller44.

Member #4732

11-11-18, 13:47

Member #4587

11-11-18, 15:23

This forum is a big tent. You have to expect the discourse can descend to the lowest common denominator, just like some people live their lives at the lowest common level. Just be glad they're at the VM's of the world, and not where you go.It is not a big tent. It is a collision of the totally different worlds. One one side you have nice apartments and good looking classy girls, educated classy men with dignity and a good taste for girls. One the other side you have a US (Mickeystan) trailers with VM rooms and ugliest women you can have, and men with. Then you might have someone between those, but not sure about it. I am happy that I am in a different world. I guess I thought that this forum is more than just a low trash stupid shit level where only thing what matters is possible cheapest pussy to bang.

MongerForSex

11-11-18, 19:51

Mission Impossible: Search at least a one girl who is not f...ng ugly!What spot do you hit? I can confirm that there are only ugly women on the pictures. I am sure Mr Enternational took random pictures but that doesn't mean he fucks ugly women.

I have been to VM many times, I've seen some fuckable women there and some are hotter than some working women from termas. Many of them don't fuck 23 clients a day because most of Brazilians are not the type to fuck a woman just because she is hot. Brazilian guys love to spend time with the lady before having sex because they are more emotional. Many brazilians prefer to fuck a nice average woman over an arrogant hot woman because we are more picky about personality. (performance, service offer and patience).

People going to vm are not losers. I am more into termas and clubs. It takes all sorts to make a world. I am sure Johns like you and any member are losers in your country. That's not why people call you a loser that means you are one. Welcome to Brazil, nobody judges your sexual preference. Just fuck where and who you want to fuck.

Member #4587

11-11-18, 19:53

RJ posters this blowup was inevitable. Just go back and read this guy' past posts and his response to my request for civility in the Sao Paulo thread from 2 months ago. At that time this poster explicitly said he has no interest in being civil or respectful to other posters. So he moved from the SP thread to the RJ thread looking for an outlet to vent his hostility and boost his clearly needy ego.

Un-ironically, he writes about "class"and "dignity" in a manner which suggests he knows not their true meaning. Cash is not class. Face control is the arbiter of superficiality, nothing more. Bluster and arrogance and empty claims of superiority are not dignity.

This is a toxic recipe for discussion as this thread shows.

As Aristotle said "A wise man has dignity without pride; a fool has pride without dignity". This thread bears witness to that.You should focus posting correct information, not BS based on your thoughts not the facts as clinicas opening times and distances. Nobody asked from you give up your opinion but after two posters did not agreed that there is no "high end clinicas", [Deleted by Admin] and wrote that" fine, I will never wrote "high end clinicas" again. Civility is being against dirty room, dirty mattresses and against being with girls who do not wash themselves. That is a dignity too. You are more than welcome to join to VM residence club but I am convinced that you are already there. Pointing out the lack of hygiene is not disrespectful, being non hygienic is, towards the others that surrounding. It does not matter how you write, what matters is what you write.

TomJackin

11-12-18, 06:14

The stupid shit thread was made for you Mr. Traveller44; are you happy now?

Member #4587

11-12-18, 12:13

The stupid shit thread was made for you Mr. Traveller44; are you happy now?Was made to you because of me, that is the exact description.

BMo814

12-05-20, 14:47

My session with Victoria at Abobbora Clinic was aborted as her monthly bleeding exploded there and then. She offered to relinquish her 150 R. Usually I have no patience with girls' periods but this time I was eager to get her Whatsapp ahead of a forthcoming lockdown, so I gave her 100. Victoria's blowjob is a phenomenon unto itself if blowjobs are your thing!

Second and final session with Tiffany at Miruna's. Good session, but will not repeat as Tiffany is not really my type, more like the type of girls you would pull from a gogo in Thailand (petite with girlish face but boyish figure).

Just had my first Ueber asshole in Sao Paulo. Short ride to Shopping Vila Olimpia, driver a black man with blood-shot eyes who refused to be drawn into conversation. At a traffic light, he went on his Whatsapp to write the following, unawares I was peeping over his shoulder: "o cara sai do Hotel *** e pede promo" which translates as "this fellow emerges from hotel *** and asks for a discount".

Explanation:

This fellow = myself, his passenger.

Hotel *** = the high-end (actually only upper mid-range) hotel within which my Airbnb is situated.

Discount = UeberPromo, some 5% cheaper than UeberX.

It didn't occur to this asshole that from my side of the Ueber App, I was not "asking for a discount" but just availing myself of one of the options presented to me. Anyways, henceforth I shall avoid UeberPromo as it seems to make drivers resentful. At the present exchange rate, one thing I am definitely not into is saving pennies on rides.

Note that Clinica girls will come early to your hotel for the same short time one-hour rate as the clinica rate (typically 250).I was going to bite my tongue but your blatant racism has been bugging me for a few days. Why the mention of him being black? no one likes a cheap skate. I been in Brazil 2 weeks now taking Uber black bcuz the difference is so minimal, 3 dollars here and there ain't going to break me and if it does maybe you should stay home and save more. Funny how you come on here crying but I bet you didn't say one word to that black man because he woulda kicked your ass. This why we are where we are as a society, guys like you. Your comment would have been fine if you had left race out of it. Now you want to hear something sad imagine being a black man spending way more that 80% of white Brazilians on food, site seeing and bitches and being treated indifferent by white Brazilians now that is something that should be written about, not getting your panties in a bunch bcuz dude rightfully called you cheap. But I take it all in stride and enjoyed my trip as should you.

XXL

12-05-20, 14:53

I was going to bite my tongue but your blatant racism has been bugging me for a few days. Why the mention of him being black? no one likes a cheap skate. I been in Brazil 2 weeks now taking Uber black bcuz the difference is so minimal, 3 dollars here and there ain't going to break me and if it does maybe you should stay home and save more. Funny how you come on here crying but I bet you didn't say one word to that black man because he woulda kicked your ass. This why we are where we are as a society, guys like you. Your comment would have been fine if you had left race out of it. Now you want to hear something sad imagine being a black man spending way more that 80% of white Brazilians on food, site seeing and bitches and being treated indifferent by white Brazilians now that is something that should be written about, not getting your panties in a bunch bcuz dude rightfully called you cheap. But I take it all in stride and enjoyed my trip as should you.Just what we need, another racial rant from a snowflake.

BMo814

12-05-20, 15:02

Just what we need, another racial rant from a snowflake.Seems to me your the snowflake, you were bent out of shape enough by what he said to come to ISG to comment and like I said why you didn't say it to that black man. We know why, you woulda left Brazil with 2 black eyes. Just like you wouldn't make that comment to my face either. I just don't tolerate suckas like you making slick comments about people that look like me. Funny how a racist never likes to be called a racist . Be what you are proudly, y’all don’t bother me I laugh in ya face cuz the only thing matters is that money potna and by the looks of it , you fuck in dirty clínicas I fuck in Hilton’s . You need to save that $40 I don’t cuz I’ll make it right back soon as my feet touch US soil . Btw if you need some help , dm me I’ll send you and Uber

BMo814

12-05-20, 20:42

I just call a spade a spade it is what it is. My man friends in my inbox calling me a monkey that loves fried chicken LOL. Who don't love fried chicken? Why'all got to do better than that. I would also suggest you study a little bit of history. Now this is a site about mongering, not talking about your weak ass opinions but if the cradle of civilization is Africa and there is documented history in Africa and the Middle East and Asia thousands of years before any document history in Europe you tell me who is the monkey? Or slow developing caveman. Now I have some excellent friends of all races so I'm not going to go there. You feeling some kind of way I feel bad for your son, I got 99 problems and ya ***** ass ain't one ha.

HarvestBoi

09-27-21, 21:53

My 2 bytes re: the great Scandallo debate, why it's expensive and why it's justified for some of us.

First there is the looks premium. I'the put the median girl at Tangara or Brooklin at 7. 5 and at Scandallo at 8. 5. Standard deviation is 1-1. 5 at both. So you're paying a premium for the extra 1 point. As anyone who follows wine or car ratings will tell you, points at the top end of the range are very expensive. The difference with wine or cars between a 8. 5 and a 9. 5 is double easily. The scale is not linear. And does any of us ever fuck a 3?

Then there's the premium for selection. Tangara might have 20-30 girls working at one time. There's multiples of that at Scandallo every night. I can never define my type, it changes nightly depending on my mood, so scouting and interviewing of the girls is part of the fun for me.

Finally, the girls at Scandallo spend more money on clothes, makeup, hair and shoes. Shoes especially LOL. Whether this is important to you or not, it's still an expense they need to recover somehow. Much is made that those who like high end places go there because we can "delude ourselves that a girl is fucking us for an hour because of our charm and good looks, and that the money was incidental to her doing that. " Fair enough. Putting aside the envy implied in that statement (we DO have the money, maybe you don't), the inverse is true too. The tutes want to pretend that they aren't a VM or Bocatoreno working girl sucking off 20 dudes a night to pay their rent; that it is, in part, their beauty and desirability, if not their wit and glamor that pulls us into the room. As long as I get what I want sexually, I'm content for everybody to maintain their illusions. The clothes are important to the girls to maintain this illusion, I think and helps them keep some sense of self esteem, in what is a witheringly judgmental environment. Imagine buying a suit for 5 grand and standing around at a business conference for 8 hours and never closing a deal. At least you'the still have the suit!

There is always the danger of poor service with letting a girl think she's a movie star and not a GDP and it's important to be firm to maintain the upper hand; be clear what you want and what won't work in the room. I always tell a new girl I won't ask her to do anything she's uncomfortable with but I expect her to tell me now because once we've agreed about things, I'm the boss. I find this is less of a problem in Brazil, where women have less sexual shame than anywhere else I've been. In fact they have just the opposite, prideful about sex. Brazilian women know the value of having a pussy but also know that something is only of value if it's put to use.

Hb out.

Jimmy Boy 99

09-28-21, 04:17

Snip. Much is made that those who like high end places go there because we can "delude ourselves that a girl is fucking us for an hour because of our charm and good looks, and that the money was incidental to her doing that. " Fair enough. Putting aside the envy implied in that statement (we DO have the money, maybe you don't), the inverse is true too. The tutes want to pretend that they aren't a VM or Bocatoreno working girl sucking off 20 dudes a night to pay their rent; that it is, in part, their beauty and desirability, if not their wit and glamor that pulls us into the room. As long as I get what I want sexually, I'm content for everybody to maintain their illusions. Snip. 1) You should not presume that people who don't pay Scandalo prices can't afford it and are therefore envious. Just because I can afford to pay for something does not mean that I will pay for it if I do not see the value.

2) Perhaps deluded was too harsh. Perhaps a more accurate statement is that Scandalo fans know they are paying to fuck the girl but want to create a mini-relationship before the act as opposed to the see, choose, and fuck procedure at a clinica.

The Cane

09-28-21, 09:34

Perhaps deluded was too harsh. Perhaps a more accurate statement is that Scandalo fans know they are paying to fuck the girl but want to create a mini-relationship before the act as opposed to the see, choose, and fuck procedure at a clinica.You really should stop engaging in all of these generalities about people, especially people who you don't even really know. How do you know what psychologically motivates every single man who goes to Scandallo? Now, one reason why I do love club environments in general, whether that be nightclubs or sauna clubs, is that they offer an opportunity for more interaction with the girls. I enjoy the social aspects of it, and I find that I can arrange for an overall better sexual experience for myself if I have a chance to interact and socialize some rather than just choose from a lineup paraded in front of me. But, I'm not interested in a "mini-relationship" as you put it. I'm not interested in having a false relationship at Scandallo or at a termas or at a German FKK or at any other type of club.

Now for a guy like Steve, I think it's rather different for him, and I don't mean that in some derogatory way at all. As I said before, we both love Scandallo, but we aren't the same kind of monger. He happens to be a monger who's totally "invested in the experience" in that he is in fact interested in a type of "relationship" with the girls. Indeed, his interests drive him to a place like Seeking Arrangement where he has ongoing relationships with his "sugar babies". We both love Scandallo, but that's totally not me. I'm definitely not looking for the same kind of experience as Steve is. I just enjoy going to a super luxury place on occasion where I have sexual access to a collection of women who I find to be highly attractive. I'm not looking to "delude myself" about being in a relationship with any of them. At the end of the day, I just want to fuck those gorgeous brancas and morenas, and then we go our separate ways. And that's it.

Nounce

09-28-21, 15:03

1) You should not presume that people who don't pay Scandalo prices can't afford it and are therefore envious. Just because I can afford to pay for something does not mean that I will pay for it if I do not see the value.Most can do it for one or two weeks, and I think that is what we are talking about. I have not seen anyone here that would do a few days a week in the same club for more than a few weeks. If that person exists, I want to know if he thinks the value is still there.

2) Perhaps deluded was too harsh. Perhaps a more accurate statement is that Scandalo fans know they are paying to fuck the girl but want to create a mini-relationship before the act as opposed to the see, choose, and fuck procedure at a clinica.I think it also has to do with the ambiance. In Clinica, I will be more comfortable if the pillow is covered by the clean bed sheet so I have to watch out for that and it feels restricted. The opposite of the coin is that I feel more freedom in a nicer place.

You know the trash places in Sao Paulo where the whole building is a brothoel and some even have cubicle type of spaces inside the room. I consider these places nasty and disgusting. I would say I could do it there if I find a girl that is not fat or old, LOL. But I suspect most members who really enjoy Scandallo would not set foot in these places. The value perspective is very different once I accepted places like these.

WyattEarp

09-30-21, 20:27

......Much is made that those who like high end places go there because we can "delude ourselves that a girl is fucking us for an hour because of our charm and good looks, and that the money was incidental to her doing that. " Fair enough. Putting aside the envy implied in that statement (we DO have the money, maybe you don't), the inverse is true too. The tutes want to pretend that they aren't a VM or Bocatoreno working girl sucking off 20 dudes a night to pay their rent; that it is, in part, their beauty and desirability, if not their wit and glamor that pulls us into the room. As long as I get what I want sexually, I'm content for everybody to maintain their illusions. The clothes are important to the girls to maintain this illusion, I think and helps them keep some sense of self esteem, in what is a witheringly judgmental environment. Imagine buying a suit for 5 grand and standing around at a business conference for 8 hours and never closing a deal. At least you'the still have the suit!You're right HB. The girls know they are working in the clubs, but they like to maintain the illusion. In Scandallo and in fact other clubs around the world, the girls like to think of themselves as having some class. Some of the girls actually look like they are having fun. Certainly, that's part of the act for many of them. I'm sure there is a grind, but you're dressed up, looking pretty and guys are buying you drinks. Many of the club girls develop great social skills in these environments. And don't forget, they don't have to hook-up with you if they don't want. They are working for themselves.

Lefeu

10-01-21, 04:53

You really should stop engaging in all of these generalities about people, especially people who you don't even really know. How do you know what psychologically motivates every single man who goes to Scandallo?

...I'm not interested in a "mini-relationship" as you put it. I'm not interested in having a false relationship at Scandallo or at a termas or at a German FKK or at any other type of club...I agree! Not sure why these folks keep making false assumptions about other people they don't know. Crazy!

We already stated, many times, that many of us are not interested in relationships, but simply to find and enjoy the company of beautiful women, for a short time. It's just that Scandallo happens to be full of these lovely women.

XXL

10-01-21, 08:52

... And don't forget, they don't have to hook-up with you if they don't want...A major difference between a Clinica and Scandallo. In a Clinica I think management would not take kindly to a girl rejecting a customer after he's been allowed to take a seat and see the line-up. Note that such a difference may play out AGAINST us johns at Scandallo's (if we are the type of men a girl might be disinclined to go with, which no man will readily admit to be of course).

The Cane

10-02-21, 21:37

I agree! Not sure why these folks keep making false assumptions about other people they don't know. Crazy!

We already stated, many times, that many of us are not interested in relationships, but simply to find and enjoy the company of beautiful women, for a short time. It's just that Scandallo happens to be full of these lovely women.If I was deluding myself into believing that the girls weren't in it for the money, then I would be in for a rude awakening back down to reality every time I looked in my wallet the next morning! They're in it for the money, and I'm in it for the "honey"!

Nounce

10-02-21, 22:56

A major difference between a Clinica and Scandallo. In a Clinica I think management would not take kindly to a girl rejecting a customer after he's been allowed to take a seat and see the line-up....Because service isn't guaranteed, they can reject service, that is similar to rejecting a customer. When I ask for a service during lineup, if the girl says no, it is basically rejecting me. If you ask the manager, the manager likely will say "depnede".

Nordico

12-16-21, 22:45

Ridiculous, Brazil already demanded a PCR or Antigen-test which are far more reliable. I won't go back to a country with such blatant corruption and fact resistance.Maybe you can go next year after Lula wins the elections.

ShooBree

12-16-21, 23:59

Maybe you can go next year after Lula wins the elections.Great, a convict as president. They aren't even trying to hide the corruption now.

The Cane

12-17-21, 01:07

Great, a convict as president. They aren't even trying to hide the corruption now.How about politically motivated, wrongfully convicted president? Remember. What goes around comes around!

SamaRiding

12-17-21, 02:59

Because service isn't guaranteed, they can reject service, that is similar to rejecting a customer. When I ask for a service during lineup, if the girl says no, it is basically rejecting me. If you ask the manager, the manager likely will say "depnede".That's true but the price point is very different. I picked a new girl once at prime and she was just a lump of coal, she wouldn't do anything. Probably my worst clinica session. I just got fed up and went to take a shower, got dressed and left her in the room. I paid my 250 r and I just walked to another clinica. I found a hotter girl and had a great session and forgot about the lump.

BeenBob

12-17-21, 14:46

Great, a convict as president. Welp, I guess we know how you feel about Nelson Mandela.

LOL sorry I know Lula may not be a Mandela but that one was too easy to pass up.

ShooBree

12-17-21, 15:10

How about politically motivated, wrongfully convicted president? Remember. What goes around comes around!Why am I not surprised to see a US libtard defend a corrupt left-wing criminal. Leftists loves criminals.

The Cane

12-18-21, 03:50

Why am I not surprised to see a US libtard defend a corrupt left-wing criminal. Leftists loves criminals.Not as much as Trumptards love their right-wing extremist criminals.

Java Man

12-18-21, 06:45

Politics rearing it's ugly head again. Smh. Appropriate thread though. LOL.

ShooBree

12-18-21, 18:11

Not as much as Trumptards love their right-wing extremist criminals.Don't think so, but you US libtards love the left-wing criminals and BLM-terrorists so much that you want to abolish the Police. LMFAO!

Spidy

12-20-21, 04:41

How about politically motivated, wrongfully convicted president? Remember. What goes around comes around!Absolutely correct.

Ex-Pres. Lula has done more for Brazilians, then any other politician in Brazilian history. Trumped-up bullshit charges and a politically corrupt judge, was the only way the right-wing parties in Brazil, could stop this political juggernaut from winning a 3rd term at the ballot-box.

If your politicians, politics and leadership are piss-poor-ass policies that don't serve community, constituency or country, then absolutely replace them. It would be idiotic to keep-in-power, corrupt governments (typically right-wing), lame-duck, corrupt, war-mongering presidents (typically right-wing) and piss-poor and crooked / corrupt police establishments.

Only morally bankrupted individuals, would still want to support and fund a corrupt, abusive, racist and sexist institutions like LE, that have stopped serving and protecting their community equally, for all people in their communities.

Get rid of the corrupt bastards and replace them with honest and real peace officers / keepers and policing that works for all people in their respective communities and jurisdictions.

Spidy

12-20-21, 04:53

Politics rearing it's ugly head again. Smh. Appropriate thread though. LOL.Yep, the fugly trolls from "Stupid shit in Medellin" thread, have arrived...kkkk!!!!

ShooBree

12-20-21, 20:38

Yep, the fugly trolls from "Stupid shit in Medellin" thread, have arrived...kkkk!!!!Don't worry, you're still the ugliest troll.

ShooBree

12-20-21, 20:42

Absolutely correct.

Ex-Pres. Lula has done more for Brazilians, then any other politician in Brazilian history. Trumped-up bullshit charges and a politically corrupt judge, was the only way the right-wing parties in Brazil, could stop this political juggernaut from winning a 3rd term at the ballot-box.

If your politicians, politics and leadership are piss-poor-ass policies that don't serve community, constituency or country, then absolutely replace them. It would be idiotic to keep-in-power, corrupt governments (typically right-wing), lame-duck, corrupt, war-mongering presidents (typically right-wing) and piss-poor and crooked / corrupt police establishments.

Only morally bankrupted individuals, would still want to support and fund a corrupt, abusive, racist and sexist institutions like LE, that have stopped serving and protecting their community equally, for all people in their communities.

Get rid of the corrupt bastards and replace them with honest and real peace officers / keepers and policing that works for all people in their respective communities and jurisdictions.LMFAO! Lula is a corrupt criminal who only served himself. He was lucky enough to ride on a commodities boom, otherwise he would have turned Brazil into Venezuela.

You're a pathetic crybaby and a perfect example of how left-wing extremists are a bunch of selfish assholes supporting other criminals simply because of the color of their skin. Its racism 101.

The Cane

12-21-21, 00:36

LMFAO! You're a pathetic crybaby and a perfect example of how right-wing extremists are a bunch of selfish assholes supporting other criminals simply because of the color of their skin. Its racism 101.Back at you! Actually, there is no racism. Remember? LMBAO! And it's "it's" not "its" you uneducated Eurotrash!

Vagabundo1

12-21-21, 15:42

Oh whoa whoa.

You can't belittle and humiliate The Cane. Only I can belittle and humiliate The Cane, who is my Eskimo Bro because we both slid our Bratwurst into the gaping, stretched, and cum soaked holes of Elisa Sanches, who now gets surgery to make her birth canal tight again, which frankly, I commend as a sex professional.

Pathetic Crybaby, look men, lets not have politics invade the Athenian / Spartan war between colorists who only do brancas and true men and warriors who anally drill negras until they salivate like panthers creeping up on white European hunters whom they maul with claws, and eviscerate with rows of teeth, sharpened on the bones of Germanic pelvic bones.

LMFAO! Lula is a corrupt criminal who only served himself. He was lucky enough to ride on a commodities boom, otherwise he would have turned Brazil into Venezuela.

You're a pathetic crybaby and a perfect example of how left-wing extremists are a bunch of selfish assholes supporting other criminals simply because of the color of their skin. Its racism 101.

The Cane

12-21-21, 17:27

Oh whoa whoa.

You can't belittle and humiliate The Cane. Only I can belittle and humiliate The Cane, who is my Eskimo Bro because we both slid our Bratwurst into the gaping, stretched, and cum soaked holes of Elisa Sanches, who now gets surgery to make her birth canal tight again, which frankly, I commend as a sex professional.

Pathetic Crybaby, look men, lets not have politics invade the Athenian / Spartan war between colorists who only do brancas and true men and warriors who anally drill negras until they salivate like panthers creeping up on white European hunters whom they maul with claws, and eviscerate with rows of teeth, sharpened on the bones of Germanic pelvic bones.Insulting in prose! Just shut the fuck up Vagabunghole you streetside psychologist Shakespeare of the mongers! Pursuer of negra bed wenches! Peace on earth to all good men. In other words, fuck off "Derrick" hahaha!

Spidy

12-22-21, 04:04

The USA, Canada, Peru, now Chile. Next up...Brazil.

Gabriel Boric of Chile has defeated, far right-wing, Jose Antonio Kast, Chile's imitator and their version of the "Orange Trumpster", with a 55.87% victory.

Now it's Brazil's turn to oust it's fake-ass, wanna be "Trumpster", president "Bozo" clown.

ScatManDoo

12-22-21, 04:49

The Cane

12-22-21, 04:54

Cynicalist

12-22-21, 06:32

LMFAO! Lula is a corrupt criminal who only served himself. He was lucky enough to ride on a commodities boom, otherwise he would have turned Brazil into Venezuela.

You're a pathetic crybaby and a perfect example of how left-wing extremists are a bunch of selfish assholes supporting other criminals simply because of the color of their skin. Its racism 101.This is bizarre. Lula essentially tripled the foreign reserves of the country. Brazil would have to suffer heavy American sanctions and treasury seizures in order for it to turn into Venezuela.

Either way this isn't the platform for such heated debate.

ShooBree

12-22-21, 19:47

"Bozonaro" is exactly what I call him.But you're just a pathetic weirdo.

WyattEarp

12-25-21, 18:20

This is bizarre. Lula essentially tripled the foreign reserves of the country. Brazil would have to suffer heavy American sanctions and treasury seizures in order for it to turn into Venezuela.This has already been mentioned, in the 2000's Lula benefited from an enormous commodity boom and China's insatiable appetite for Brazilian exports. The whole cycle blew up in 2008-2009 and hasn't really recovered.

Vagabundo1

12-25-21, 20:38

Spot on! Bolsonaro is at least a normal guy unlike the whackos who have taken over north America.

But you're just a pathetic weirdo.

ShooBree

12-26-21, 08:51

This has already been mentioned, in the 2000's Lula benefited from an enormous commodity boom and China's insatiable appetite for Brazilian exports. The whole cycle blew up in 2008-2009 and hasn't really recovered.I'm not sure he can read.

Nordico

12-27-21, 06:23

Spot on! Bolsonaro is at least a normal guy unlike the whackos who have taken over north America.Interesting way of defining far right extremist, failed officer and failed president.

ShooBree

12-27-21, 08:13

Interesting way of defining far right extremist, failed officer and failed president.Says the left-wing extremist.

Here you are whining and crying about Bolsonaro while he doesn't even know you exist. Its pretty obvious that you're a pathetic loser and Bolsonaro is a winner.

Axel Heyst

12-27-21, 14:53

I have a question for our Marxist leaning friends: are you OK with a college swimmer who competed as man is now competing and dominating the women's category after identifying as female? The implications of an affirmative response is that you see no difference between a man and a woman, or a tranny and a woman. Good luck with that. Ha ha.

Bolsonaro is at least a normal guy unlike the whackos who have taken over north America.Spot on! And I might add Europe and Asia. I will take Bolsonaro over Lula any day of the week. Nobody in the world stopped the Covid spread, but the Bolonsaro kept Brazil open unlike the fools running Thailand and the Philippines which are still closed or in quarantine. Bravo!

Nordico

12-27-21, 16:12

Says the left-wing extremist.

Here you are whining and crying about Bolsonaro while he doesn't even know you exist. Its pretty obvious that you're a pathetic loser and Bolsonaro is a winner.I love to get under your skin.

The Cane

12-27-21, 16:21

But you're just a pathetic weirdo.Simply put, see attachment.

ShooBree

12-27-21, 17:32

I love to get under your skin.Haha, better luck next time! Or just keep dreaming.

BigBuddy69

12-27-21, 17:36

I love to get under your skin.Don't forget the condom.

Vagabundo1

12-28-21, 21:15

This hashtag says it all about my political views about bolsonaro.

Bolsonaro is a vagabundo.

Enough said.

Sperto

01-01-22, 00:42

Regarding Bolsonaro. He just hold his New Years speech on TV. Everybody in the buildings went to their windows and made a panelada, beating pots and cursing Bolsonaro. Really impressive how much noise they managed to make. Very fun.

Vagabundo1

01-02-22, 13:49

With the election in November, it will be a trending topic in 2022.

I heard the panelada too, but it was drowned out by the fireworks which I watched from my apartment in barra.

Regarding Bolsonaro. He just hold his New Years speech on TV. Everybody in the buildings went to their windows and made a panelada, beating pots and cursing Bolsonaro. Really impressive how much noise they managed to make. Very fun.

Explorer8939

01-20-22, 12:47

200,000 new cases in Brazil today. I am staying away from bars until Omicron passes.

ShooBree

01-20-22, 19:18

Sperto

01-20-22, 20:10

LMFAO, life in the ghetto.Not at all, paneladas against Bolsonaro happens everywhere. Has nothing to do with ghetto or favelas.

The panelada I mentioned happened in Copacabana. Hardly a ghetto.

Mr Enternational

01-20-22, 20:40

200,000 new cases in Brazil today. I am staying away from bars until Omicron passes.Most people that I know that have gotten covid do not even go to bars and have no idea how they got it.

Sperto

01-21-22, 04:42

200,000 new cases in Brazil today. I am staying away from bars until Omicron passes.It can't be very fun going on a holiday and just staying isolated all the time. Staying away from bars is no solution. What about restaurants, supermarkets, buses, uber etc.

All of my gringo friends (no exception) who are in Brazil right now caught covid-19 (omicron). Even those who got 3 doses of vaccine. Some with mild symptoms, others asymptomatic (like myself) and a few with medium symptoms (the non-vaccinated ones). Among my Brazilian friends the majority caught covid-19 the last weeks.

The spreading is getting worse quickly and I guess most mongers who are going to Brazil for more than a very short time will catch covid. If catching covid is a big concern they better choose another destination for their holiday or stay at home.

Axel Heyst

01-21-22, 15:24

According to an article in the Wall Street Journal "Herd Immunity Is Over—Long Live Superimmunity, the Omicron wave will leave most people with potent and durable protection against Covid. " Here is a ling to the news article.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/herd-immunity-is-over-superimmunity-covid-omicron-immune-system-virus-variants-antibody-antibodies-11642448736

I will post the concluding final paragraphs of this article just in case you do not have full access to WSJ and can't read it:

"All of this suggests that infection with Omicron is likely to stimulate potent and durable protection against Covid-19—and potentially other coronaviruses—even if it mutates to become more virulent. As Omicron rapidly spreads, people who have been vaccinated or previously infected will develop super immunity. Covid-19 will become a virus that causes cold- and sometimes flulike symptoms—annoying but rarely deadly or disruptive.

One caveat is that older people generate weaker T-cell responses and memories to infections and vaccines. They're likely to need annual booster shots. Omicron will end the pandemic by making Covid-19 endemic."

Mr Enternational

01-21-22, 17:24

The spreading is getting worse quickly and I guess most mongers who are going to Brazil for more than a very short time will catch covid. If catching covid is a big concern they better choose another destination for their holiday or stay at home.I told him that before he left Thailand. But he was adamant that he did not want to stay there and have to take a covid test to get into bars; it wasn't catching covid that he was worried about since he is vaxxed. Now that he is in Brazil, it seems he does not want to go to bars at all, and just a little worried about catching covid.

My last hours in Pattaya, so between sorting out the Brazilian entry paperwork,

Back to packing.

I will come back when Omicron isn't everywhere.

Looks like you are jumping out of the frying pan and into the fire pimp. The news is that Brazil may have up to 1 million cases of covid per day in 2 weeks.

Yes, but nobody requires me to take a Covid test to enter a bar here in Brazil.

I will head back to Pattaya when Omicron isn't rampant in the bars, and they don't require an ATK test to enter a bar. Until then, I am waiting it out in Brazil.

I come back when they stop checking for an ATK test if you go to a restaurant, and Omicron isn't everywhere.

There are very few good outcomes from catching Covid. I will return to Pattaya when the chances of catching Omicron in a bar are not so high.

Meanwhile, I am asking those in Pattaya to report on the extent of the spread of Omicron there, and whether those ATK tests are still required to go into a bar.

200,000 new cases in Brazil today. I am staying away from bars until Omicron passes.LOL. I tried to save him a trip.

Nordico

01-21-22, 19:47

Most people that I know that have gotten covid do not even go to bars and have no idea how they got it.Can we conclude from your post that people get infected because they don't go to bars or that most people you know don't go to bars?

Explorer8939

01-21-22, 20:33

I told him that before he left Thailand. But he was adamant that he did not want to stay there and have to take a covid test to get into bars; it wasn't catching covid that he was worried about since he is vaxxed. Now that he is in Brazil, it seems he does not want to go to bars at all, and just a little worried about catching covid.I am having a great time in Brazil, living in a condo by the beach in Florianopolis with a Thai lady. I go back to Rio in a couple of days, and will monitor infections closely, both in Thailand and in Latin America, and will go where there is the least Omicron. Although numbers are high in Argentina, if they drop a bit, I may go there for a few weeks. Mexico is also on my list, although Omicron is spiking there night now, I always wanted to take a Thai lady to Tijuana.

Sperto

01-22-22, 00:58

I am having a great time in Brazil, living in a condo by the beach in Florianopolis with a Thai lady. I go back to Rio in a couple of days, and will monitor infections closely, both in Thailand and in Latin America, and will go where there is the least Omicron.This was new tactics, bringing a thai lady to Brazil. A bit like like bringing feijoada to a Thai restaurant. I have a friend who is travelling in Brazil right now. Three times vaccinated, super fit fire-fighter, always very careful and very worried about catching covid-19. He was the one of my friends who caught the most serious covid the last weeks.

PatmarBeleza1

01-22-22, 01:27

No board member can control another board member.

You are giving other members of this board way too much power.

As Sperto has suggested, you should just ignore if you don't like someone.

People should be free to monger in whatever manner they please without judgement and put-downs.

Member #4729

01-22-22, 05:14

No board member can control another board member.

You are giving other members of this board way too much power.

As Sperto has suggested, you should just ignore if you don't like someone.Sounds like Vaginabundle1. Um, sorry "PatmarBeleza" should follow his own advice about "ignoring" and maybe we wouldn't be getting these pathetic, obsessive and insecure posts directed at me. Like I said, yawn.

Explorer8939

01-22-22, 09:42

This was new tactics, bringing a thai lady to Brazil. A bit like like bringing feijoada to a Thai restaurant. I have a friend who is travelling in Brazil right now. Three times vaccinated, super fit fire-fighter, always very careful and very worried about catching covid-19. He was the one of my friends who caught the most serious covid the last weeks.I don't go out much here in Florianópolis, just for shopping. Covid is everywhere now.

WyattEarp

01-22-22, 15:14

Axel Heyst

01-22-22, 20:12

This was new tactics, bringing a thai lady to Brazil. A bit like like bringing feijoada to a Thai restaurant.
Yes, it brings to mind the very appropriate idiom "You don't bring sand to the beach". The beach reference having extra significance to Brazil.It's a long way to travel with a girl: Pattaya to Florianopolis. But the OP wanted out of Thailand and he wanted to bring a favorite Thai girl along for the ride. Ha Ha. I could almost conceive of it myself under these trying times, except that I would not have taken the girl halfway around the world. I would have taken her to a beach island in southern Thailand like Ko Lipe and rented a condo there for a month or two.

But it is all good. Whatever makes you happy. Yada Yada Yada. I once flew one of my favorite girls up from Phuket to BKK. On the surface, that sounds crazy too, but I really dug the girl and I did not want to fly down to Phuket to se her so I flew her up and we had a memorable 4 days and 3 nights in BKK. Then in early 2020, I was all set (tickets and hotel reservations in hand) to fly BKK to Yangon, hang out there for a few days, and then fly back to BKK with my favorite Burmese gal. I originally thought of taking her to a Burmese beach, but she expressed a big desire to see BKK and I thought why not? It will be a lot of fun. Then Covid broke and I have still not been back to SE Asia since.

The Cane

01-22-22, 21:33

Sounds like Vaginabundle1. Um, sorry "PatmarBeleza" should follow his own advice about "ignoring" and maybe we wouldn't be getting these pathetic, obsessive and insecure posts directed at me. Like I said, yawn.Yikes! VagaPatmarBelazaBundo1 strikes!

Vagabundo1

01-22-22, 23:39

Right, and that is not a put down? You're not even in Rio, like The Cane, yet you post daily. It speaks for itself.

Sounds like Vaginabundle1. Um, sorry "PatmarBeleza" should follow his own advice about "ignoring" and maybe we wouldn't be getting these pathetic, obsessive and insecure posts directed at me. Like I said, yawn.

Explorer8939

01-23-22, 01:12

It's a long way to travel with a girl: Pattaya to Florianopolis. But the OP wanted out of Thailand and he wanted to bring a favorite Thai girl along for the ride. Ha Ha. I could almost conceive of it myself under these trying times, except that I would not have taken the girl halfway around the world. I would have taken her to a beach island in southern Thailand like Ko Lipe and rented a condo there for a month or two.

But it is all good. Whatever makes you happy. Yada Yada Yada. I once flew one of my favorite girls up from Phuket to BKK. On the surface, that sounds crazy too, but I really dug the girl and I did not want to fly down to Phuket to se her so I flew her up and we had a memorable 4 days and 3 nights in BKK. Then in early 2020, I was all set (tickets and hotel reservations in hand) to fly BKK to Yangon, hang out there for a few days, and then fly back to BKK with my favorite Burmese gal. I originally thought of taking her to a Burmese beach, but she expressed a big desire to see BKK and I thought why not? It will be a lot of fun. Then Covid broke and I have still not been back to SE Asia since.This is a lady I have taken to Dubai and Turkey.

Her friends are acutely aware of the upside of going with me.

Explorer8939

01-23-22, 01:15

It's a long way to travel with a girl: Pattaya to Florianopolis. But the OP wanted out of Thailand and he wanted to bring a favorite Thai girl along for the ride. Ha Ha. I could almost conceive of it myself under these trying times, except that I would not have taken the girl halfway around the world. I would have taken her to a beach island in southern Thailand like Ko Lipe and rented a condo there for a month or two.

But it is all good. Whatever makes you happy. Yada Yada Yada. I once flew one of my favorite girls up from Phuket to BKK. On the surface, that sounds crazy too, but I really dug the girl and I did not want to fly down to Phuket to se her so I flew her up and we had a memorable 4 days and 3 nights in BKK. Then in early 2020, I was all set (tickets and hotel reservations in hand) to fly BKK to Yangon, hang out there for a few days, and then fly back to BKK with my favorite Burmese gal. I originally thought of taking her to a Burmese beach, but she expressed a big desire to see BKK and I thought why not? It will be a lot of fun. Then Covid broke and I have still not been back to SE Asia since.I took her twin sister to Koh Lipe. Been there, done that.

Spidy

01-23-22, 06:29

Yikes! VagaPatmarBelazaBundo1 strikes!A case of Jekyll and Hyde?

Hmmm....well many here do tend to think the crazy girls are more fun. I personally tend to keep my distance from hot head latinas.

Vagabundo1

01-23-22, 10:30

There was a viral sketch on SNL about "Man Park" and an article in the economist.com that describes Male Loneliness in America. It relates to a well known phenomenon, call it Brazil Withdrawal Syndrome. A ISGer comes to Brazil for 3 weeks, announces his pronouns as something like Sir, but the girls he pulls are only from termas, and those are unremarkable. Then he comes to Rio, and is in the absolute opposite of Puritan Pussy Prison in America, where the female faculty at an academic work environment body shame men in acts of some kind of redress. For 3 weeks he gets sex on command. Then he goes back to America, and he has one place he can recall that feeling of superiority that he felt in Rio -- namely the sex tourist message board, where the majority of participants are, like him, not even in Rio. It becomes a kind of online therapy group, like the group therapy for emasculated men in fight club because they are not really using their sex organs to fuck Brazilian women today or this week, or even 3 weeks ago. The obvious answer for this is that like Hemingway going to Cuba after being put in a minor Pussy Prison by his Catholic wife in Key West is that the ISGer should pull a Bubba Boy and figure out how to live in Rio for 7 to 10 years.

https://youtu.be/tTd1hSFzC_E

https://www.economist.com/united-states/2022/01/01/why-men-are-lonelier-in-america-than-elsewhere

Male loneliness.

Why men are lonelier in America than elsewhere.

Marrying later, working harder and being better parents have diminished male friendships.

Are isolated men driving American women up the wall? A recent sketch on "Saturday Night Live", which refers to studies concluding that males in America are increasingly friendless, suggests that they are. A young woman, frustrated by her boyfriend's inability to open up to anyone else, takes him by the hand and leads him to a "man park" (like the dog version) where, after a shy start, he finds fellow males to make friends with. Some viewers disliked the likening of men to dogs, but the sketch, which went viral online, illustrates fresh concerns about an old worry: the loneliness of American men.

As people in rich countries work longer hours, marry later and spend more time with their children, not friends, research suggests loneliness is increasing. A study by the University of Pennsylvania found a direct link between social-media usage and loneliness. More time spent online means less time building friendships.

The problem may be particularly severe in America. A large international study by British academics found that people in individualistic countries (a measure on which America scores highest) reported greater loneliness. America also has one of the highest divorce rates; men may be more likely to lose mutual friends after a split. A strong work ethic and geographical mobility (meaning friendships are liable to be lost or weakened as people relocate) is likely to exacerbate the problem.

A survey published in 2021 by the Survey Centre on American Life, part of the American Enterprise Institute, a think-tank, found that friendship groups have shrunk in the past three decades. The decline has been particularly marked among men. In 1990,55% of American men reported having at least six close friends; today only 27% do. The survey found that 15% of men have no close friendships at all, a fivefold increase since 1990.

Those who study male loneliness believe that a particularly American version of masculinity is in part to blame. Since 1990 Robert Garfield, a psychotherapist and author of "Breaking the Male Code", has run "friendship labs", men's therapeutic groups, which have shown him that men crave emotional connection. But American boys, says Dr Garfield, who has also run such groups in Europe, are often taught that successful men exhibit particular traits—restraint, independence, competitiveness—at the expense of others.

As women's and lgbt rights have advanced in recent decades, along with more emotional ways of connecting with others, "men are being asked to stretch themselves", Dr Garfield says. Over time, this is likely to have a positive effect on the way men relate to each other, but at the moment, "males are in a fighting phase".

Marc Schapiro, a 24-year-old English teacher from Maryland, agrees. He says he was taught male friendship is "stoic and lacking outward affection". But now he sees a different portrayal of friendship on social media, particularly by women and lgbt people. He would love, he says, to be able to "show more affection and drop the constant snide comments and ribbing", but he finds the disconnect between what he grew up believing about friendship and how he sees other people relating to each other unsettling. The "quasi-socialising" he and his friends do online, via games and various message boards, meets no real need, he adds.

All this comes at a heavy cost. Suicide is more common among young men than young women. Niobe Way, a psychologist at New York University who studies adolescent male friendship and is the author of "Deep Secrets: Boys' Friendships and the Crisis of Connection", says it is no coincidence this divergence begins to happen around the age that many boys move away from close friendships. In childhood, she says, boys tend to be as open as girls about their need for friends. As they get older, they "feel they have to get into a gender straitjacket" and define their masculinity primarily as not being feminine. By the age of 15, many boys start saying they don't need friends and worrying that close friendships will make them seem "girly". This "clash of culture and nature", Dr Way says, is much more marked among white boys than black ones.

The effects are far-reaching. Research has linked loneliness to poor health. It can make men angry and violent. Male loneliness also affects women. Dr Garfield observes that two-thirds of divorces are initiated by women, many of whom complain their husbands are emotionally incompetent. "There's nothing new about that, but women are increasingly unlikely to put up with it," he says. ■.

The Cane

01-23-22, 11:33

Right, and that is not a put down? You're not even in Rio, like The Cane, yet you post daily. It speaks for itself.Being in Rio (or any other place) is not a basis for posting on the site. Engaging in petty, egotistical banter on a daily basis (by way of multiple aliases) ought not be one either.

Vagabundo1

01-23-22, 19:57

I've been in Rio for 100 weeks, fucking 5 different Brazilian women a week on average. You haven't been to Rio in at least a 100 weeks.

I respect your and Zebrastripes views and even good writing (for Senor ZS), and I've even enjoyed the same hoars, like Elisa sanches. But I think everyone should know that you're basically a blogger about a subject in which your actual boots on the ground knowledge is over 2 years old.

This board has become your personal achievement, your own online man park. Which, speaks for itself.

My suggestion is to man up by coming to rio and staying if you like it so much. If you are in IT, get an IT job. The economist notes that there are 40,000 new SW engineers being trained in South America every year, but the region needs 100 k. If you are in education, go onto your consulate and connect with cultural affairs and get a teaching job in Rio. As the Nike ad says, just do it.

Oh, and as for the multiple usernames, I changed my user name from patmarbeleza to vagabundo in 2015 because a dancer (attached image) at 502 suggested it, and I took it as a compliment.

Being in Rio (or any other place) is not a basis for posting on the site. Engaging in petty, egotistical banter on a daily basis (by way of multiple aliases) ought not be one either.

Anaggie

01-23-22, 20:05

Vagabundo1

01-23-22, 20:22

The Cane

01-23-22, 20:32

This board has become your personal achievement, your own online man park. Which, speaks for itself.If that isn't the pot calling the kettle black!

Anaggie

01-23-22, 22:17

1. I don't really understand your question. Could you clarify?

2. I don't have any problem with you, as you actually have been in Rio multiple times, and add valuable data, like how you got BBFS (by showing your tests).

3. When you are in the flow, you get free sex at the margins. I took a girl to the nude beach and she recruited with me a couple for swing, and the sex with the other girl was free and great. I got days of free sex with Belladonna over the holidays not to mention all the fun of celebrating the holidays, all the quick fucks at my place or in a hotel in between.

My main point is just the headline of the economist.com article -- Male Loneliness in America. And my main point is simply this: just fucking move to Brazil if you are in America. Get your attorney to sell the house or whatever, and do it. My minor point is that readers should take into account when a contributor has not been to Rio or Brazil for 100+ weeks, and is still posting every day. Yes, I am on this board daily, but I have lived here for 100 weeks, and I am trying to get real time intel. For someone sitting in America, it should raise some question in the reader's mind as to why that contributor is posting every day.My question is. Is there a difference between a monger who is in town for a few days at a time vs a monger who lives in said town? I don't think so. Both are paying for play and are usually visiting the same places to find it. Some might be more curious or more risk averse but in the end it is pretty much the same.

At the end of the day, everyone is different and has different views on how to do things in their own way such as food choices, workout options and even mongering. Putting others down or discounting their ways is less becoming of the person. I respect your ways and choices because you are truly the boots on the ground and I also respect the opinions of others in this forum. Agreed, that some members haven't been to said city in weeks if not years and their connection to the group is by adding their two cents since they can't experience it currently. Nothing wrong with that either. Read their opinions for entertainment and move on.

A perfect example would be the bubbaboy guide. It is old and now should be taken as an entertaining intro to rio but that is all. So much has changed since his time that it isn't really relevant to today.

Personally, I have been visiting and mongering in Brazil since 2001 and so much has changed. I didn't even visit Rio till 2012 since I was told not to visit by my agents in the south. Only in the past few years has mongering really changed for me with the proliferation of escort sites, cheap and safe rides to get to places around rio and SP and Google translate.

Anyway. I think that we can discuss this over a few beers at 4 x4 on Feb 2nd in the afternoon if you would be interested. I have a few hours to kill before I meet my SP girl from Scandello who I will be taking to buzios for the weekend.

Till we meet again. Keep rocking and mongering.

Vagabundo1

01-23-22, 23:07

That's original.

I've been in Rio for 100 weeks, fucking 5 different Brazilian women a week on average. You haven't been to Rio in at least a 100 weeks. We're going around in circles. Peace and hey, maybe Elisa Sanches will do a video call now, so hit her up!

If that isn't the pot calling the kettle black!

Vagabundo1

01-23-22, 23:18

How many times have you or any guy who parachutes in for 3 weeks gone Christmas shopping in madureira, and then celebrated Christmas with the whole family, including like 6 brothers out on the far reaches of zona oest? I am getting it bareback from a 18 year old tier 1 terma girl pernoite with own toilet advantage, like you are, and like other members of the board are, but there is a big componenet of being there. Not for weeks but for a month or more, or better months on end with no end in sight. Then it's like a game of adventure to see which love motels you can go to next, is the BDSM suite at Itaoka hotel available, is it realistic to consider whether the family wants you to get married and have kids, or is that just what the family and not the 18 year old wants? That's the good stuff. Yeah, fucking 18 year old pussy is arguably just a commodity, just a grade of leather that is fungible, put it on the boat or plane and get it up to Texas. But there is a point where they and she looks at you as a dude. That point is. I am not sure.

Even if you pop in every few quarters and you can take the top tier terma girl to buzios its different when you are going to her apartment in zona norte, jogging down to the mall, power shopping, and meeting her real social world.

It is not for everyone.

You get regarded differently. It's not a week she plans for positively or negatively but just like a regular thing, and that for all its pluses and negatives is a cool thing.

As for 4 x 4 sure, but I am not a big fan of these venues these days.

Much as you and others slight Bubba Boy's Guide, I cite it for the enduring insights. You can update the prices etc by going onto GPArena, but the guide is still the bible IMHO.

My question is. Is there a difference between a monger who is in town for a few days at a time vs a monger who lives in said town? I don't think so. Both are paying for play and are usually visiting the same places to find it. Some might be more curious or more risk averse but in the end it is pretty much the same.

At the end of the day, everyone is different and has different views on how to do things in their own way such as food choices, workout options and even mongering. Putting others down or discounting their ways is less becoming of the person. I respect your ways and choices because you are truly the boots on the ground and I also respect the opinions of others in this forum. Agreed, that some members haven't been to said city in weeks if not years and their connection to the group is by adding their two cents since they can't experience it currently. Nothing wrong with that either. Read their opinions for entertainment and move on..

The Cane

01-24-22, 11:51

I've been in Rio for 100 weeks.So, you've been in Brazil for 100 weeks, and unfortunately we know about every last single one of them. I don't care how long you have been in Brazil, and I have no desire to read your personal diary. Your specimen is well-known among mongerdom. So, you reach a point in your life where you can move to some monger paradise like Brazil, Thailand, or the Philippines. And when that happens, you develop a superiority complex (was actually there all along). You're superior to anybody who isn't boots on the ground. You're superior to anybody who is boots on the ground. You're superior to anybody who was boots on the ground for a few weeks. Only your way is the right way, and anybody who disagrees just doesn't know how to monger. Well to be frank, I've never had a desire to live 24/7 around a bunch of hoors. That's not my idea of the good life Vagabundo. Or, is it PatmarBelaza? If you "retired" the other name, then why did you use it out of the blue again? To make it look like somebody other than yourself was criticizing ZebraStripes too? You must have forgotten that some of us have been around long enough to know that it was you. So, what was the point of trying to be shifty with that? The more you go on and on with your ritual chest thumping and antics here, the more off putting it all becomes. Rinse and repeat essentially the same kind of stuff in every single post. Day after day. It's really quite pathetic, petty, and sad.

Spidy

01-24-22, 21:41

... Putting others down or discounting their ways is less becoming of the person... Agreed, that some members haven't been to said city in weeks if not years and their connection to the group is by adding their two cents since they can't experience it currently. Nothing wrong with that either. Read their opinions for entertainment and move on...

Yep, agreed! When any BM contributes to the to a thread on this forum, it isn't just for the benefit of a select few, that feel they have dominion over said ISG thread.

As you've plainly and simply put, if you can't find relevance, contribute counterpoints or find benefits from other posts you read, then simply move on and treat it as entertainment.

Just absurd and ridiculous to think, just because other BM/ISGers haven't been on the ground in 2, 3 or even 10 years, they shouldn't post, as if they don't have the right to post or have anything to contribute, is nonsensical.

Vagabundo1

01-25-22, 00:41

Keep going.

We lawyers never let a witness stop testifying against his own interest.

Living around women you can fuck on command is not a good life? Could you expand on that?

I've never had a desire to live 24/7 around a bunch of hoors. That's not my idea of the good life Vagabundo.

Vagabundo1

01-25-22, 00:49

To be clear, Safado69 originally popularized Barra.

As to Vasco, it is not the team which is horrible at soccer. It is the fans who are the most violent; it is the women, who are the hottest (and who all the flamengistas and maybe other teams hate); and it is the history, which is that of a crusader.

But everyone loves to hate Vagabundo, which is just fine. Have some sympathy, have some taste.

Oh.

And Brazilian women best in the world? No. They are the most evil, violent, and wicked in the world. If they were good and nice, we would not love them as much.

Welcome to the forum. Your input can be invaluable, so please stay. And don't worry about your English, it's fine.

Trust me, frequent travelers on this forum love Brazil beyond termas, prives, ppks, etc. LOL. I've been on this board long enough, I know.

As to Barra it's been popularized by Vagabundo, who actually lives in Rio. New tourists shouldn't stay in Barra, IMHO, and that's what the consensus here is. But for those who stay in Rio long-term, it actually makes sense (cheaper and safer). After you've seen most things Rio has to offer, why not stay in Barra, really?

I chuckled reading your Vasca shirt musings. I feel the same way about trying to blend in with the locals. Never going to work, IMHO.

Like I said, please stay and comment some more.

Vagabundo1

01-25-22, 00:51

Men,

Thanks for all the continuing evidence that this thesis, which is from a influential thought leader, the economist.com is spot on.

Keep it coming. Senor The Cane, just keep writing. You are a complete genius.

Thanks.

There was a viral sketch on SNL about "Man Park" and an article in the economist.com that describes Male Loneliness in America. It relates to a well known phenomenon, call it Brazil Withdrawal Syndrome. A ISGer comes to Brazil for 3 weeks, announces his pronouns as something like Sir, but the girls he pulls are only from termas, and those are unremarkable. Then he comes to Rio, and is in the absolute opposite of Puritan Pussy Prison in America, where the female faculty at an academic work environment body shame men in acts of some kind of redress. For 3 weeks he gets sex on command. Then he goes back to America, and he has one place he can recall that feeling of superiority that he felt in Rio -- namely the sex tourist message board, where the majority of participants are, like him, not even in Rio. It becomes a kind of online therapy group, like the group therapy for emasculated men in fight club because they are not really using their sex organs to fuck Brazilian women today or this week, or even 3 weeks ago. The obvious answer for this is that like Hemingway going to Cuba after being put in a minor Pussy Prison by his Catholic wife in Key West is that the ISGer should pull a Bubba Boy and figure out how to live in Rio for 7 to 10 years...

Xpartan

01-25-22, 06:03

But everyone loves to hate Vagabundo, which is just fine. Have some sympathy, have some taste.
Come on, you know better. I don't hate you. Au contraire, I value your updated datapoints that only someone who's not pressed for time can provide.

You're just forgetting sometimes that 9 out of 10 mongers who read this board (I think) come to Brazil on a short-to very short vacation, so replicating your feats is rarely feasible for most of them.

Sperto

01-25-22, 06:48

The Cane

01-25-22, 16:38

Sperto

01-25-22, 17:54

I find it interesting that you only felt compelled to say this once people started to get in his case. You didn't say one mumbling word regarding his bullying and put downs of others here. And believe me, there are some here who feel that he has done exactly that. For a very long time now. And not once did you ever say anything, and in fact even laughed with him and encouraged it at times. And yet, now we're supposed to look upon you as one speaking with fairness and reason? Maybe if and when you feel compelled to extend this wisdom towards addressing his own bad behavior as well.I got a PM from another member that you responded to my post. First I thought it was strange as I have you on my ignore list for a long time. This means I don't (have to) see your posts, and you probably can't read my posts. Unless you use two forum names. To me it was a bit complicated to answer your post, remove from ignore list, respond and then put back on the ignore list.

BTW, no comments to your post.

WyattEarp

01-25-22, 19:21

I don't understand the need for bullying Vagabundo. Nobody is forced to read anybody's posts, you can just scroll by. The ignore button is excellent.

Some reports are about updates on prives and termas, other posts are sexstories, some posts are newbies who need help with their homework and quite a few are just posters who likes to give their opinions.

There is no need to agree on the monger strategy of other members, the posts can still be interesting. Otherwise, scroll by or press "Add to Ignore List". It's not a pissing contest.Sperto, are you being biased because Vagabundo incessantly campaigns for a mongering style more in match with your own? I find Vagabundo's posts entertaining and great accounts of life on the ground. That doesn't mean I recommend to my newbie friends on a Rio vacation these itineraries. Many who visit Rio multiple times find Vila Mimosa and prives. Many of those return right back to the high-end termas. To each his own.

We have to move on here and I wish the moderator would end this campaigning and criticism on all sides. You and Vagabundo know these same stupid arguments on the internet are older than ISG itself. Vagabundo didn't discover Vila Mimosa. (Vasco the Gama did.) Most of us know Barra is very nice. When I choose to, I know how to use public transportation.

The SP thread has guys that occasionally campaign for clinicas over high-end boates. Thankfully, it hasn't gotten to the constant drum beating on this thread. To anyone following this thread, Vagabundo has gone from being prolific to opinionated to now domineering. Posting under another handle to challenge a member is really bad form.

The Cane

01-25-22, 22:33

BTW, no comments to your post.Looks like you just did LOL!

Mr Enternational

01-25-22, 23:54

Many who visit Rio multiple times find Vila Mimosa and prives. Many of those return right back to the high-end termas. To each his own.Back in the day I told a buddy of mine who was a Rio vet about 85. After he visited that place he cursed me the fuck out.

Nounce

01-25-22, 23:57

Looks like you just did LOL!My guess is he meant other posts before this post or after this post. He unblocked you to reply to your post because someone told him. My guess is if one is not login, one can see all posts, blocked or not.

Member #4729

01-26-22, 03:31

This whole concept of "look you little sensitive fairy, just ignore a post if it hurts your feewings, mkay" is just wonderfully amazing as an example of sophistry. It's usually said by someone who has had their feelings hurt by a poster that was lashing out because their feewings were hurt by another poster that had their feewings hurt. (If only the original source could be located.) Everyone lashing out, lashing out, lashing out and hurting and being hurt in a big wonderful spiral of hurting and hurty hurtness. And anger! Grrrr! And then one more somebody who has had their feels hurt and believing that they alone are clear minded and in possession of the moral high-ground because-of course they are (I mean they are BTOG for fuck's sake! 10000 WEEKS!) finally figures it all out, the Solution to This Whole Thing- and says in exasperation through an alternative recently resuscitated avatar or like minded tribal partner / crybully "look jerk, just ignore it if you don't like it" to which some based Chad replies, yeah fairy, look in the mirror and follow your own advice. Pussy. (or more likely they send a PM because based chads are usually not man enough to insult people in public view).

I'm sorry esteemed members, but it's a completely useless word soup- the "ignore if you don't like" theory of board conflict resolution-aside from the fact that it reveals how everyone -even here in super Alpha 1% Elite Monger world-is seeking victim status and sees themselves as the aggrieved party and yikes! The victim of cruel cruel bullying. Such a cruel, cruel monger world! The truth is we are all a bunch of creeps, we pay impoverished women for sex. And sorry dude, nobody is going to be ignoring anything. Ever.

The other truth truth also is that individuals seek to dominate (hmm, wonder who), and they do so by creating conflict with perceived rivals through provocative, opinionated posts, for example. *Termas are crap, the bus is amazing. It has cushions and is air conditioned*. Why would this forum be immune to jerk human nature? And sadly, nobody will ever win the contest the only thing that can happen is divine intervention through an observant and judicious moderator or simple attrition through general boredom, aging, reduced energy, loss of income and / or death.

Friends, the Narcissist will never be conquered, will never be Un-Narcissized. You can't change people unless you are Stalinist apparatchik- but you can walk away with your dignity intact and unbowed, uncowed, and unconcerned. Hopefully Uncovered. One can seek to hold themselves to certain standards of decorum.

I can just see some based 1% Super Alpha Chad in full Bombeiro and Vasco gear taking a deep Alpha breath full of Based Sex God air, cracking the knuckles and typing the keyboard keys-responding to this "well Zebra just ignore it if you don't.

Yawn.

Sperto

01-26-22, 08:05

Sperto, are you being biased because Vagabundo incessantly campaigns for a mongering style more in match with your own?I'm happy to see the Sheriff is sharing his wise words in the most suitable thread. Is it complicated to become a member in the OFC?

Vagabundo1

01-26-22, 15:19

Please go on, give me another 500 or 5000 words!

It's a great exhibit of Male Loneliness in America and Brazil Withdrawal Syndrome.

It could be dialogue straight out of Fight Club / Big Bob 's scene / Remaining Men Together, Testicular Cancer support group, because when you leave Brazil, you may as well have testicular cancer because you're not shooting real loads into that Monte Carlo girl, Valerie. Maybe you can split the cost of a zoom with Eliza sanches and the other members of Remaining Men Together!

https://youtu.be/7ooDX1NOzEM

Yawn.

WyattEarp

01-26-22, 19:42

I'm happy to see the Sheriff is sharing his wise words in the most suitable thread. Is it complicated to become a member in the OFC?Bizarrely, your post is kind of the inverse of the Groucho Marx quote "I'd never belong to any club that had me as a member."

Vagabundo1

01-26-22, 22:20

Over the last 100 weeks, I have seen dozens of ISGers come into Rio. Most guys when they leave, don't post. Take TIAVoyage for example. Great guy, we actually met that night going from 65 to 4 x4 with MiamiBoy. He wrote a great report. Then he just left. Boom, that was it. I do that too, when and if I leave again. Almost every ISGer I have hung out with does that. But then there are the minority who come back to this board. My analysis is Male Loneliness in America / Brazil Withdrawal Syndrome.

As Sperto has said, it even gets to the point where some members bully me for expressing my views, as if I actually had any power to dominate. It is easy to ignore me. I am just a fool -- as we know from our shakespear, a fool who will chart his old course in a country new when the time comes.

Some minority come into the board and announce their title as Sir. Well, I served in the military, and Sir is a title that is earned through a selection process based on merit. It's not just a title that is claimed. It is not a writing contest. It is a leadership contest based on peer evaluation of whether you are the guy who others can count on. To lead you to the best prive, to go get a sim card for $10 reais, to be a wingman in VM and wait while you session to see if it goes ok, to keep an eye out while your eyes are on your cell phone. Leadership, teamwork, camaraderie -- all that is what amounts to mutual respect in the male hunter gatherer club we are in. Just mailing it in via posts on a board is not enough IMHO. It is maybe one level of participation, but the fuller level is in person, and is proven by deeds and actions, not words.

So, go ahead, keep writing, but I don't see how it is getting your dick into a pussy where you are, and if its not, then you should really think about how you are using your time.

Please go on, give me another 500 or 5000 words!

It's a great exhibit of Male Loneliness in America and Brazil Withdrawal Syndrome.

It could be dialogue straight out of Fight Club / Big Bob 's scene / Remaining Men Together, Testicular Cancer support group, because when you leave Brazil, you may as well have testicular cancer because you're not shooting real loads into that Monte Carlo girl, Valerie. Maybe you can split the cost of a zoom with Eliza sanches and the other members of Remaining Men Together!

https://youtu.be/7ooDX1NOzEM

Spidy

01-27-22, 01:43

My guess is he meant other posts before this post or after this post. He unblocked you to reply to your post because someone told him. My guess is if one is not login, one can see all posts, blocked or not.Exact-a-mundo!

So the real "ignore list", only really works by 'NOT RESPONDING' to another BM's post.

Personally, if BMs are going to be silly, then this is the correct thread. I, personally would rather here than in the "Rio de Janeiro" main thread for finding pussy.

So if you don't like the crap that posted here, then don't READ THIS THREAD.

Just IGNORE this thread! It does say "Stupid shit in Brazil" after all.

Member #4729

01-27-22, 03:15

As Sperto has said, it even gets to the point where some members bully me for expressing my views, as if I actually had any power to dominate. It is easy to ignore me. You sent me (unsolicited) a PM in which you called me an oversensitive "pussy" because I dared to push back on your characterization of short term tourists going to termas as first world losers participating in a big game masturbatory fantasy. I took this to include myself. In my reply I asked how going to prives in a bus was anymore manly and suggested that that other people enjoying termas were not a threat to your existential validity after which you proceeded to post obsessively on this issue proving that perhaps I had misjudged, and that yes- it indeed was a threat to you on some emotional level. Had I only known. Inquisitive members willing to read can note the asymmetrical posting frequency and word count between the two of us on this- it's really interesting how much a couple of my posts have thrown you off and the hand wringing it has generated. I had no idea I had so much power. Among other things, you re-logged in to a retired username in order to make it appear that other posters were equally ruffled by me.

On another note, it's been fascinating getting all these private messages from other members who have had similar experiences and hearing so many compelling stories about the history of this thread. What a wild ride.

It would indeed be easy to ignore you if you did not appear in my private mailbox with insults. I would ask, is this how people who are being bullied act?

If you would like to apologize here for insulting me in that PM I would be willing to accept it and take the above platitudes at face value and move on from this issue. I'm moving on regardless because, yawn, this is a bore. I'm happy to let people be their wonderful selves and post what they like. The crowd will come to its own conclusion. But you still can make it right in the way you know you should. What would Bubba Boy Do? What would a leader do?

Vagabundo1

01-27-22, 04:03

I am not apologizing for anything. I stand behind every word I've sent, either by private message or on this board.

Again, it's weeks since you've been in Brazil, and its you who keep coming back to post here in a way that other forum members have described as bullying.

I'm not going to disclose anything I sent to you privately. It was private because it contained information about where you work, and I am going to respect those limits.

But it is apparent from your calling yourself "sir" to the tone of all your comments that you think you should be in control of the editorial content of this board. I disagree.

It's all there for anyone to see. You can go back and replay the transcript and make your own decisions.

And, as I say, keep posting. It is all a good example of Brazil Withdrawal Syndrome, and American Male Loneliness. I'm in bed with Ana Foxxx, a 20 year old negra, I just fucked BBFSCIP.

This is a thread that supposedly is about men having sex with women in Brazil. I'm doing that today. You're just stroking your keyboard. Since you spend so much time contributing to this board, as I said, I suggest you get back to Brazil for the long term. Man up, and make it happen. You and Cane both, my criticisms here notwithstanding, are smart guys who obviously are so interested in Brazil that you really should be here full time. Your reports might have a lot more credibility if you made this step.

That said, I stand by my comments I made privately towards you.

As for leadership, I am not an academic or a nice guy. You, my good sir, are exactly what I told you were privately, an overly sensitive academic. I stand behind the rest of my private comments to you as well.

You sent me (unsolicited) a PM in which you called me an oversensitive "pussy" because I dared to push back on your characterization of short term tourists going to termas as first world losers participating in a big game masturbatory fantasy. I took this to include myself. In my reply I asked how going to prives in a bus was anymore manly and suggested that that other people enjoying termas were not a threat to your existential validity after which you proceeded to post obsessively on this issue proving that perhaps I had misjudged, and that yes- it indeed was a threat to you on some emotional level. Had I only known. Inquisitive members willing to read can note the asymmetrical posting frequency and word count between the two of us on this- it's really interesting how much a couple of my posts have thrown you off and the hand wringing it has generated. I had no idea I had so much power. Among other things, you re-logged in to a retired username in order to make it appear that other posters were equally ruffled by me.

On another note, it's been fascinating getting all these private messages from other members who have had similar experiences and hearing so many compelling stories about the history of this thread. What a wild ride.

Explorer8939

01-27-22, 11:13

As long as I have been coming to Brazil, ATMs have been a problem, one issue is their scarcity, the second is they charge $5 or so, but you can only take out $190 at a time.

Vagabundo1

01-27-22, 14:01

https://youtu.be/74I7Nl1mKig

Look men,

I played football in high school and college, noseguard, got blocked by 3 guys every play, broke a guy's knee, then went on to box for four years including in the golden gloves where I lost a decision to a guy who lost to Tyson. Then I went in the naval infantry, where part of the training is pugil sticks, and body sparring, and blowing up the enemy is just work. Talking shit to your friends and teammates is how I was raised. The best ISGers who come in here are the swiss guy who walked all around VM with no signal on his cell phone because he had just come from mf ing Africa where he was banging African negra queens bare like it was rosti in grindelwald, and mf ing jrealyo who was a cornerback. On the other hand some of you sensitive persons who work in academic environments in America (I can think of no worse places to work in the world) take offense to some normal locker room talk. Well, you should review the above link to some cultural training from a successful film maker who has still been pumping out kids into his 70's. Grow some gonads, lighten up, and get a thicker skin.

Eastwood's most successful and underrated film is The Eiger Sanction, filmed in my beloved homeland of Switzerland, where my family escaped by hiking from Austria where the Vagabundo's have been Naval Intelligence Officers for generations, and now proudly lead the Swiss Navy brand of anal lubricants to be used exclusively on the anal cavities of Brazilian hookers, like those Vagabundo pictured at the pool at Transamerica using his spycraft from all that training at Union Bank of Switzerland and the Swiss Guard, where he never once disclosed which popes banged the same said asses as that would be a secret under Swiss Banking Law.

Vagabundo trivia: if you look closely, you will see a girl in the background of the nice ass in the foreground. That girl in the background is none other than the hoar I labeled surf girl in 2015. She is a long term resident of Transamerica. Transamerica is where hoars and the hoar loving hoar mongers who hoar them go to die. It is valhalla for bunda. And if you don't like reading my posts, you can wire money into my company account, I will send you my lawyer's number to negotiate a non disclosure of my my genius absurdist existentialist novellas.

That ass was tight, that pussy was tight, all bent over with baby oil on those cheeks, three other hoars cheering me on, smoking weed and sipping red label, weed wafting out of the love pad in clouds, porn and netflix on the TV. I mean, 100 weeks of my melancholy hoars in a time of cholera.

Boom. There is a title to a novella.

The two deaths of vagabundo. Who will carry my body to be buried at sea at Barra Posto 1 when I die? I just need a boat team. Marine Raiders!

Vagabundo1

01-27-22, 14:16

And that was hoar number 2 of 4 who reverse gangbanged pernoited vagabundo on the first day of Christmas for 400 each which was what my true love at the time, belladonna, gave to me. Four fucking hoars and a morena in a pear tree. What was the question you had? I would classify this as top secret in the Swiss Navy, but there is nothing that is secret about Swiss Navy brand of anal lubricants being the best for fucking Brazilian women in the ass!

Vagabundo1

01-29-22, 11:09

Why? Was it because 85 was too trashy, or because the termas were better?

Back in the day I told a buddy of mine who was a Rio vet about 85. After he visited that place he cursed me the fuck out.

Sperto

01-29-22, 21:59

Why? Was it because 85 was too trashy, or because the termas were better?Rua Buenos Aires 85 was a legend, except for those spiral stairs. A fire in BA85 and the cemetery would be full.

Vagabundo1

02-04-22, 15:19

While I will not give you an apology, in the interest of peace, I will buy you three tier 1 prive girl (lets say any one at massagemtijuca.com) if you get me one mosaico girl of my choice -- an equivalent value.

While we are at it, let's have Biden and Putin meet at Mosaico to negotiate world peace.

I am not apologizing for anything. I stand behind every word I've sent, either by private message or on this board.

Again, it's weeks since you've been in Brazil, and its you who keep coming back to post here in a way that other forum members have described as bullying.

I'm not going to disclose anything I sent to you privately. It was private because it contained information about where you work, and I am going to respect those limits.

But it is apparent from your calling yourself "sir" to the tone of all your comments that you think you should be in control of the editorial content of this board. I disagree.

It's all there for anyone to see. You can go back and replay the transcript and make your own decisions.

And, as I say, keep posting. It is all a good example of Brazil Withdrawal Syndrome, and American Male Loneliness. I'm in bed with Ana Foxxx, a 20 year old negra, I just fucked BBFSCIP..

Nordico

02-11-22, 21:57

Sperto

02-11-22, 23:28

"Three cases of porn actresses who tested positive for HIV were confirmed in Sao Paulo, the main erotic center in the country.

The situation practically paralyzed the national film industry of the genre, which is being forced to review the practice of sex without condoms on stage. Smaller production companies, major providers of content for national and foreign platforms, interrupted recordings due to lack of cast. Behind the scenes, porn actors say they are terrified of the situation". https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/ilustrada/2022/02/casos-de-hiv-positivo-paralisam-industria-porno-do-pais-avessa-a-camisinha.shtml?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=comptw.Almost same as before, but a small rise. About 1 in every 200 hundreds have HIV in Brazil. Don't even think about the numbers in places like Vila Mimosa.

Still I find it surprising that some many members wants to BB in Brazil. Might be understandable if they can't get a hardon with a rubber.

Xpartan

02-12-22, 06:08

Almost same as before, but a small rise. About 1 in every 200 hundreds have HIV in Brazil. Don't even think about the numbers in places like Vila Mimosa.

Still I find it surprising that some many members wants to BB in Brazil. Might be understandable if they can't get a hardon with a rubber.It's amazing to me too how many folks have lost the fear of god in the last 10 years when it comes to barebacking. I understand there are some HIV-preventive drugs that considerably lower (but don't eliminate) the risks. Still while it's also hard for me to get and maintain a hard on with rubber, I wouldn't dare to BBFS (and have declined the invitations in the past). There are so many other nasty things you can catch, it's just not worth it. I did take tests when I desperately wanted to bareback girls I've "fallen in love" with, but it's more trouble than it's worth unless you seriously wife up with her for a reasonable period of time. Just doesn't suit my vacation mode.

TjBrazil

02-12-22, 07:15

Rua Buenos Aires 85 was a legend, except for those spiral stairs. A fire in BA85 and the cemetery would be full.I used to say that about 4 x 4 if there was ever a fire there. There was one there and I didn't read about any deaths there. It must of been a small area.

The Cane

02-12-22, 20:57

I used to say that about 4 x 4 if there was ever a fire there. There was one there and I didn't read about any deaths there. It must of been a small area.If I recall correctly, one firefighter did die in the blaze.

Xpartan

02-12-22, 22:29

I used to say that about 4 x 4 if there was ever a fire there. There was one there and I didn't read about any deaths there. It must of been a small area.Yes, there were deaths in 4 x4. I think a few firemen died if I'm not mistaken.

Nordico

03-16-22, 22:44

WyattEarp

03-16-22, 22:54

"Data comparing 5,570 Brazilian cities were published in the scientific journal Lancet. The risk of death from the coronavirus was 44% higher in those more developed and aligned with Bolsonaro, according to the study by an independent group of researchers". https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/colunas/monicabergamo/2022/03/cidades-que-elegeram-bolsonaro-tiveram-mais-mortes-por-covid-em-2021-diz-artigo-na-lancet.shtml?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=comptw.I don't think we can read the article in the USA Without a subscription.

Which cities are more aligned with Bolsonaro? I would guess that Sao Paulo and Rio being more densely populated cities would have higher fatality rates per capita. That's just a guess. Perhaps you can explain the results. Thanks.

Nordico

03-16-22, 23:53

I don't think we can read the article in the USA Without a subscription.

Which cities are more aligned with Bolsonaro? I would guess that Sao Paulo and Rio being more densely populated cities would have higher fatality rates per capita. That's just a guess. Perhaps you can explain the results. Thanks.For some reason I don't get the link to the Lancet article to work, but if you google the title, Involvement of political and socio-economic factors in the spatial and temporal dynamics of COVID-19 outcomes in Brazil: A population-based study, it should show the article in The Lancet, in the search results.
I have a subscription to the newspaper (Folha de SP) and that is why I always use it as a reference when posting shit here. I read it to improve my Portuguese, even if I use Google translator when posting. Im too lazy to translate it myself from one foreign language to another.

Spidy

03-19-22, 01:10

...I have a subscription to the newspaper (Folha de SP) and that is why I always use it as a reference when posting shit here. I read it to improve my Portuguese, even if I use Google translator when posting. Im too lazy to translate it myself from one foreign language to another.Guilty (and lazy) as charged...kkkk!

So while Google Translate, still may not get things right 100% of the time, the Google translation algorithms are light years better than they were several years ago. And to date, I've yet to find anything better, for free.

Kudos on your subscription to Folha de Sao Paulo and continuing your Brazilian/Portuguese education in language and/or business, social or cultural related issues. Still miles to go myself.

Sperto

03-19-22, 02:00

Guilty (and lazy) as charged... and/or business, social or cultural related issues. Still miles to go myself.Agree 100%!

Golfinho

03-19-22, 14:31

So while Google Translate, still may not get things right 100% of the time, the Google translation algorithms are light years better than they were several years ago. And to date, I've yet to find anything better, for free..https://www.deepl.com/translator

How hard did you look?

Spidy

03-20-22, 02:29

https://www.deepl.com/translator

How hard did you look?I have used this site before and still thought Google was better. But to each their own.

And if your using words/phases: https://www.linguee.com/english-portuguese/search?.

W/R to a previous translation, at DeepL.com, it is no better and no different.

"Chorei o dia inteiro, depois que cheguei ao hotel. Ele (o responsvel pelo ataque) no queria me roubar, porque era s pegar o celular que estava no meu colo. Ele quis me machucar e isso choca. Nunca mais volto ao Rio", desabafa Janana.

"I cried the whole day after I got to the hotel. He (the attacker) didn't want to rob me, because he just wanted to take the cell phone that was in my lap. He wanted to hurt me and this is shocking. I will never go back to Rio again," says Janana.

Spidy

03-20-22, 02:31

Agree 100%!So much for me being on that bragged about/vaunted ignore list of yours....kkk!

Like I said, good luck with that!

XXL

03-20-22, 03:00

It's amazing to me too how many folks have lost the fear of god in the last 10 years when it comes to barebacking. I understand there are some HIV-preventive drugs that considerably lower (but don't eliminate) the risks. Still while it's also hard for me to get and maintain a hard on with rubber, I wouldn't dare to BBFS (and have declined the invitations in the past). There are so many other nasty things you can catch, it's just not worth it. I did take tests when I desperately wanted to bareback girls I've "fallen in love" with, but it's more trouble than it's worth unless you seriously wife up with her for a reasonable period of time. Just doesn't suit my vacation mode.I second that. Gonorrhea can usually no longer get cured these days by only one antibiotic, two are needed, one of them as a jab. I'm talking about treatable gonorrhea. All the same, I'm surprised at how rarely some mongers get an infection, like their cock had a teflon layer. Using condoms is not all downside, it gives me confidence to stick my cock into any crack who. Big turn on there. Sagami polyurethane condoms were a game-changer for me.

UniversalX

03-20-22, 07:04

I second that. Gonorrhea can usually no longer get cured these days by only one antibiotic, two are needed, one of them as a jab. I'm talking about treatable gonorrhea. All the same, I'm surprised at how rarely some mongers get an infection, like their cock had a teflon layer. Using condoms is not all downside, it gives me confidence to stick my cock into any crack who. Big turn on there. Sagami polyurethane condoms were a game-changer for me.Even with the anonymous nature of this site, the numbers of members getting STI's are probably higher, they just don't confess such infections on this site.

Golfinho

03-20-22, 20:34

I have used this site before and still thought Google was better. But to each their own.

And if your using words/phases: https://www.linguee.com/english-portuguese/search?.

W/R to a previous translation, at DeepL.com, it is no better and no different.
It's better for Russian and some others. I don't need a translator for Portuguese.

Good to have options, of course.

Nordico

03-20-22, 20:48

Her origin is Brazilian, but as she lives in France for 8 years she's definitely French. That makes her a French tourist visiting Brazil. Not that hard to understand.

Another poster wrote that he stole her mobile phone, incorrect. He didn't manage to steal anything.

https://www.metropoles.com/brasil/turista-agredida-no-rio-ele-dava-gargalhadas-enquanto-me-esfaqueavaWhat's wrong with you? You write something this stupid and you still find something wrong with somebody else's post.

Vagabundo1

03-20-22, 22:48

With all respect, Senor Nordico, not only is Sperto's statement not stupid, it is very true. If she lives for 8 years in France, she is French.

What's wrong with you? You write something this stupid and you still find something wrong with somebody else's post.

The Cane

03-21-22, 11:00

With all respect, Senor Nordico, not only is Sperto's statement not stupid, it is very true. If she lives for 8 years in France, she is French.So France grants citizenship to anyone based on residency alone? Anyone who manages to live there for some period of time automatically becomes French without doing anything else? That's all it takes? A simple Google search proves otherwise: https://www.expatica.com/fr/moving/visas/french-citizenship-107626/. Does she meet the requirements so stated for French citizenship or permanent residency in France (permanent resident not the same as being French)? Nobody here knows. But more importantly, why should anybody here care? Ah yes, this is the Stupid Shit in Brazil thread! Got it.

Vagabundo1

03-21-22, 20:31

So are you actually coming to Brazil anytime soon?

It's been over 2 years since you've been here.

Sperto was here just a few months ago.

Got a lot of time on your hands?

So France grants citizenship to anyone based on residency alone? Anyone who manages to live there for some period of time automatically becomes French without doing anything else? That's all it takes? A simple Google search proves otherwise: https://www.expatica.com/fr/moving/visas/french-citizenship-107626/. Does she meet the requirements so stated for French citizenship or permanent residency in France (permanent resident not the same as being French)? Nobody here knows. But more importantly, why should anybody here care? Ah yes, this is the Stupid Shit in Brazil thread! Got it.

Vagabundo1

03-21-22, 20:43

The point is that it is not even material -- not even important -- to what Sperto was trying to do, which is post a significant safety issue.

Your arguing about unimportant, stupid shit is just another example of male loneliness in America / Brazil Withdrawal Syndrome.

So France grants citizenship to anyone based on residency alone? Anyone who manages to live there for some period of time automatically becomes French without doing anything else? That's all it takes? A simple Google search proves otherwise: https://www.expatica.com/fr/moving/visas/french-citizenship-107626/. Does she meet the requirements so stated for French citizenship or permanent residency in France (permanent resident not the same as being French)? Nobody here knows. But more importantly, why should anybody here care? Ah yes, this is the Stupid Shit in Brazil thread! Got it.

The Cane

03-21-22, 23:12

The point is that it is not even material -- not even important -- to what Sperto was trying to do, which is post a significant safety issue. Your arguing about unimportant, stupid shit.If that's what he was trying to do, then he failed quite miserably. Great parroting there too bro. And way to change the subject! No, I'm not going to Brazil anytime soon. Believe it or not, sometimes people choose to have other priorities in their lives. Besides, I'm rather enjoying this BBFSCIP action with my new "gringa branca" sugar baby. Hell, maybe I'll finally get married!

Vagabundo1

03-22-22, 01:17

The point is that this is a message board about sex in Brazil. I'm in bed with a Brazilian girl in Brazil. You haven't been here for over 2 years, yet you post here hourly. Res Ipsa Loquitor. People can draw their own conclusions about you.

Sperto succeeded in posting about an assault, with video. You've succeeded in shining more light on a real safety issue. Keep it up.

If that's what he was trying to do, then he failed quite miserably. Great parroting there too bro. And way to change the subject! No, I'm not going to Brazil anytime soon. Believe it or not, sometimes people choose to have other priorities in their lives. Besides, I'm rather enjoying this BBFSCIP action with my new "gringa branca" sugar baby. Hell, maybe I'll finally get married!

The Cane

03-22-22, 15:52

People can draw their own conclusions about you.And believe me they have about you LOL! Oh, and I will return to Brazil on my timetable. Not yours.

Vagabundo1

03-23-22, 13:38

A non carioca tourist was stabbed 5 times sitting outside of her copa hotel. That means that readers of this board should not sit outside their hotels in copa. That's the signal. Whether she is a de jure brazilian or de facto french after living in France for 8 years is just noise.

Readers should know that you haven't been in Brazil for 1001 nights. Your posting about your twice monthly seeking arrangements for $500 is just more Brazil Withdrawal Syndrome / Male Loneliness in America, and now Vagabundo derangement syndrome, ie, just Cane's jealousy as some ISGers have said to me. I've got different 19 and 20 year olds in my bed for continuous fucking 24/7. You post pictures that are years old, and thousands of words about Frankenstein Botox charlotte when there are new 18 year olds like Penelope at 4 x 4 that you could fuck if you actually came to Brazil in person. But you don't, maybe because you don't have the money, or because writing penthouse letters is more satisfying than actual sex in person. Again, Res Ipsa Loquitor. The thing speaks for itself.

And believe me they have about you LOL! Oh, and I will return to Brazil on my timetable. Not yours.

The Cane

03-23-22, 18:22

Readers should know that you haven't been in Brazil for 1001 nights. Your posting about your twice monthly seeking arrangements for $500 is just more Brazil Withdrawal Syndrome / Male Loneliness in America, and now Vagabundo derangement syndrome, ie, just Cane's jealousy as some ISGers have said to me. I've got different 19 and 20 year olds in my bed for continuous fucking 24/7. You post pictures that are years old, and thousands of words about Frankenstein Botox charlotte when there are new 18 year olds like Penelope at 4 x 4 that you could fuck if you actually came to Brazil in person. But you don't, maybe because you don't have the money, or because writing penthouse letters is more satisfying than actual sex in person. Again, Res Ipsa Loquitor. The thing speaks for itself.Before the first time I ever went to Brazil, the criticism was well what do I know? I've never been there and I'm never going. Somebody even suggested that I should stay away from Brazil and go back to the jungle. But then somebody else reminded them. The jungle is in Brazil! So, I started going, but then I haven't been enough times the detractors said. Then it was well maybe you've been enough times, but you haven't been to this place or done this, that, or the other. Now, it's you haven't been here since way back when. Blah, blah, blah. Well let me tell you something. Like I said, I will return to Brazil (or wherever I want to go) on my timetable. I've already contributed more to this site than most others ever will. And I've got plenty of money. I spend it how I want to, and not to prove anything to you.

And you can believe it when I tell you I'm not jealous of a damn thing you've been fucking hommes. Wouldn't touch that with Sperto's dick! So you keep on snowing your sycophants and showing everyone what a petty little man you are. And think hard and long about what your next smear campaign is going to look like the next time I do pass through the gates of Sodom. What you going to say then? You've got plenty of time to think about it. I'm jealous of you? Hahaha! It's like I always say. I've fucked more hot girls in the ass than most men will get even pussy over the course of their entire lifetimes! And I'm not done yet. You've got nothing I desire, including the life you lead. Believe this. Vagabundo and the Sycophants! What's your next hit?

The Cane

03-23-22, 18:32

Nordico

03-23-22, 22:47

With all respect, Senor Nordico, not only is Sperto's statement not stupid, it is very true. If she lives for 8 years in France, she is French.I suppose it depends on definition, but in my vocabulary living 8 years in France doesn't make her French. Maybe she is or will be a Brazilian with dual citizenship. Do you think the British expats in Costa del Sol think they are Spaniards? No, they are British. Mr. E. Is not Thai, I'm not Spaniard, the Pope is always referred as Argentinian. I have never heard anyone saying that Picasso was a French painter. Why we always talk about Russian oligarchs, if they live in London? The journalist who wrote the article says she is paulista, who lives in France. I think it's an important omission from a person who never misses an opportunity to belittle any person who doesn't speak Portuguese.

Vagabundo1

03-23-22, 23:55

What's not in dispute is that:

She is a tourist, like most readers on this board.

She was stabbed 5 times sitting outside a hotel in copa, so you should not sit outside a hotel in copa.

In addition, as a girl here said to me when I showed her this, copa is in a favela. Just be aware of that.

I suppose it depends on definition, but in my vocabulary living 8 years in France doesn't make her French. Maybe she is or will be a Brazilian with dual citizenship. Do you think the British expats in Costa del Sol think they are Spaniards? No, they are British. Mr. E. Is not Thai, I'm not Spaniard, the Pope is always referred as Argentinian. I have never heard anyone saying that Picasso was a French painter. Why we always talk about Russian oligarchs, if they live in London? The journalist who wrote the article says she is paulista, who lives in France. I think it's an important omission from a person who never misses an opportunity to belittle any person who doesn't speak Portuguese.

Spidy

03-24-22, 00:04

... Readers should know that you haven't been in Brazil for 1001 nights. ... I've got different 19 and 20 year olds in my bed for continuous fucking 24/7. You post pictures that are years old, and thousands of words about Frankenstein Botox charlotte when there are new 18 year olds like Penelope at 4 x 4 that you could fuck if you actually came to Brazil in person ... Here we go again...really! Are you back in kindergarten or what?

Not sure what you have against pics, posts or reports that somehow don't meet your "2-year threshold", as not being relevant, but it seems childish and petty.

When BMs post pics/reports, they aren't posting for YOUR approval, enjoyment or blessing.

They post to impart information or an enjoyment that will benefit ANY ISG member and not just for approval of a select few who continually belittle others into posting what, when and how they should post, travel or fuck.

But please, perhaps you should give us YOUR vaunted "rules" and "guidelines" for posting pics/reports and tell us infidels, how, when and what we can and cannot post, so that we NO LONGER offend your sensibilities.

Vagabundo1

03-24-22, 00:05

Sperto, rightly, gives credit to Bubba Boy for contributing valuable information to this site.

Your posts are pretty much the opposite, automatic ignore. Everyone says the same thing.

You haven't been in Brazil for 2.5 years or more, yet you post hourly. Keep on posting. Give us another several thousand words about how great you are. Praise you give yourself is not worth having.

I've already contributed more to this site than most others ever will.

Vagabundo1

03-24-22, 00:14

I'm looking for information from people who have been in Brazil or will be in Brazil +/- 180 days. I'm looking for current information.

I read and am updating for my own purposes and those of others if they want it, Bubba Boy's Guide. So, those are my guidelines. Others can do whatever they want. They criticize me. I criticize them. Whatever, this is just a message board. It really doesn't make any difference.

Here we go again...really! Are you back in kindergarten or what?

Not sure what you have against pics, posts or reports that somehow don't meet your "2-year threshold", as not being relevant, but it seems childish and petty.

When BMs post pics/reports, they aren't posting for YOUR approval, enjoyment or blessing. They post to impart information or an enjoyment that will benefit ANY ISG member and not just for approval of a select few who continually belittle others into posting what, when and how they should post, travel or fuck.

But please, perhaps you should give us YOUR vaunted "rules" and "guidelines" for posting pics/reports and tell us infidels, how, when and what we can and cannot post, so that we no longer offend your sensibilities.

Vagabundo1

03-24-22, 00:27

Senor Cane,

According to your own statements on this board:

1. Your monthly budget for P4P is $500 for two Seeking Arrangements fucks a month in America, which you insisted on posting on this, a board about Brazil.

Elsewhere, you've said you hope to get to the point you can live in Brazil full time.

2. You might come back to Rio this summer, but there is a 50% chance you'd go to Germany.

You already made those posts. I could link to them. So, now you're contradicting your own statements, which is fine.

You obsess over my posts. I post some absurdist plot line about being a naval officer from Austria and Switzerland, and you actually look it up, like it is serious. It's a joke.

I will repeat what Bubba Boy wrote in his guide: thanks for this forum, which has been helpful. I try to pay it forward for new members, to pass along what I learned from Bubba Boy and Sperto.

I can't figure out most of what you say, your grammar is so incoherent, as in this gem, below. We'll never meet. You really need to get laid. Good luck with your next trip whenever it is.

And think hard and long about what your next smear campaign is going to look like the next time I do pass through the gates of Sodom. What you going to say then?

The Cane

03-24-22, 01:36

Senor Cane,

I can't figure out most of what you say, your grammar is so incoherent.Yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda! Is that simple enough for you to grasp? Sorry that I don't live up to your high literary standards Hemingway. And it's laughable how you routinely criticize me for not going to Brazil or posting an old photo, but then you just can't stop lauding an outdated guide that's like what? Like literally ten years old this month! LMAO! Things have dramatically changed so much in that time! Talk about being contradictory. And talk about being incoherent too! It's like you're having a nervous breakdown or something. No, you're not paranoid. It's just that everybody is out to get you! LOLOLOL! Since you're handing out gratuitous advice, here's some for you. You need to get a life is what you need to do, and stop trying to tell other people here how to live theirs in a way that agrees with you. That's what you need to do. We don't live our lives for you, we live them for ourselves. So, if you want to keep insulting and belittling and dismissing other people because they don't do things how you do them, then bro you're just going to have to take it too.

The Cane

03-24-22, 02:15

We'll never meet.And was this supposed to hurt my feelings? Hahahahahahahaha! I could have told you that a long, long time ago. Anchors away Lieutenant Commander!

Spidy

03-24-22, 02:19

... They criticize me. I criticize them. Whatever, this is just a message board. It really doesn't make any difference.
Huh! Forgive me if I'm somewhat confused by this statement. If it REALLY doesn't make any difference, then why post at all?

Or are you speaking specifically w/r to this "Stupid Shit in Brazil" board or the ISG Board in general?

I'm looking for information from people who have been in Brazil or will be in Brazil +/- 180 days. I'm looking for current information... Clearly it does make a difference to YOU (and too myself for that matter), since you continue to post updates and look for intel.

Granted "Stupid Shit in Brazil" may not be the greatest of thread to look for meaningful information on Brazil, but nevertheless, any astute BM should be able to garner useful nuggets of intel, from time to time and ignore/leave the irrelevant nonsense at bay.

I read and am updating for my own purposes and those of others if they want it, Bubba Boy's Guide ... Well alright, that sounds like great news for newbies, the uninitiated, some veterans and others, who followed the original guide. Good on you!

Although, having taken the time and effort to update the guide, it will be a pity, after a small amount of time has passed (180 days), when other BMs view this new guide, as IRRELEVANT, USELESS or UNIMPORTANT, after ONLY having a shelf-life of, no longer than 180 days.

Naturally for me, it may still hold some residual "nostalgic" value.

Vagabundo1

03-24-22, 02:42

I see Bubba Boy's Guide as of timeless value about Rio.

As for specific girls, prices at specific places, etc, the best source is GPArena.net.

There are some members of this board who have been or are coming to Rio in +/- 180 days who have useful information. JimmyBoy, Nounce, Sperto, and many others.

Then there are board members, including you, Cane, Nordico among others, who just post for its own sake, and almost never post anything of actual daily value. But you argue forcefully for your right to write.

This is just a message board. It's not, for example, people trying to whack each other with live ammunition, or people trying to decide whether to buy or sell stock, or arguing on behalf of a client in a court filing.

Whoring is a luxury, according to The Economist's special report of 2014. Whoring in Rio is what I have done for 735 straight days. Rio has the best selection of whoring in the world. The morena mineira I did at Perola Negra two weeks ago with Soberhands, or the Mineira I did after the Superbowl party out at Mosaico, or the Monica Mattos 1 from Mosaico I did for several nights a month ago, or Monica Mattos 2 from Treze the Maio 33 last Friday are top shelf, like 8's or 9's, or 10's easily. I could post pictures, but I don't do that for reasons that are described in the novel Shantaram. I make real friends, which you can do after 3 or 10 days (see the novel The Lincoln Highway).

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The Cane

03-24-22, 10:39

I see Bubba Boy's Guide as of timeless value about Rio.And a picture can't have timeless value? At least to somebody? The guide you cherish isn't even an original work. Anybody who has been around for a long time knows that your hero lifted what he wrote from another monger famously known as "Bwana Dik". That's who we all should hail. The real creator! No, instead you worship a badly outdated work of plagiarism! There is no +/- 180 day rule here. And nobody passed and willed you moderator privileges to unilaterally impose one. But, you would love it wouldn't you? Because that would bar virtually everybody else from posting anything. And then you could have what your ego craves, the full floor for Vagabundo's Diary! Waxing lyrically on a daily basis about your "luxurious" lifestyle and mongering accomplishments. It's really quite pathetic and sad to see somebody acting out like this. Take a break from the mongering man. I mean really. Get your feet firmly back onto reality's ground. And seek some professional help. You're living in Brazil where it's less expensive to obtain. Take advantage of that.

Vagabundo1

03-24-22, 12:44

Come on. Give me 5000 words!

Yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda! Is that simple enough for you to grasp? Sorry that I don't live up to your high literary standards Hemingway. And it's laughable how you routinely criticize me for not going to Brazil or posting an old photo, but then you just can't stop lauding an outdated guide that's like what? Like literally ten years old this month! LMAO! Things have dramatically changed so much in that time! Talk about being contradictory. And talk about being incoherent too! It's like you're having a nervous breakdown or something. No, you're not paranoid. It's just that everybody is out to get you! LOLOLOL! Since you're handing out gratuitous advice, here's some for you. You need to get a life is what you need to do, and stop trying to tell other people here how to live theirs in a way that agrees with you. That's what you need to do. We don't live our lives for you, we live them for ourselves. So, if you want to keep insulting and belittling and dismissing other people because they don't do things how you do them, then bro you're just going to have to take it too.

Nordico

03-24-22, 16:32

Then there are board members, including you, Cane, Nordico among others, who just post for its own sake, and almost never post anything of actual daily value. But you argue forcefully for your right to write.Demeaning other board members who don't agree with you again. Please explain us what is so valuable in your post below, which is quite typical post for you. Only thing with any value in your post is that there is a street market every Tuesday, but you didn't bother to mention where we can find that feira.

So Anne arrives. For the first of? Pernoites. We are cooking. Every Tuesday, there is a street market (feira or fair-a). Today, Vagabundo went down and bought fresh fish and vegetables and fruit. Anne especially likes the camerao (shrimp), which Vagabundo especially likes since she cooks them!

Vagabundo makes Salmon Vagabundo, which is salmon filet in between lemons, salted with special salt for seafood, and some olive oil, in aluminum foil, and can be thrown on the barbi along with shrimp.

All Brazilian women can cook (shrimp), clean, and of course fuck.https://www.forbes.com/sites/stephaniesarkis/2019/04/26/gaslighters-use-the-third-person-for-dramatic-effect/?sh=3a79bdc475d7

"If gaslighters / narcissists feel that not enough people are praising them (they commonly and unrealistically feel this way), they praise themselves. It can be a form of self-soothing, a reassurance to the gaslighter / narcissist that he is worthy of adoration".

Vagabundo1

03-24-22, 16:41

When is the last / next time you were / will be in Brazil?

The more you, and Cane, and Spidy, et al, attack me, the more the people who are actually here support me.

So, please along with all the other nadering nabobs of negativism, keep writing.

Demeaning other board members who don't agree with you again. Please explain us what is so valuable in your post below, which is quite typical post for you. Only thing with any value in your post is that there is a street market every Tuesday, but you didn't bother to mention where we can find that feira.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stephaniesarkis/2019/04/26/gaslighters-use-the-third-person-for-dramatic-effect/?sh=3a79bdc475d7

"If gaslighters / narcissists feel that not enough people are praising them (they commonly and unrealistically feel this way), they praise themselves. It can be a form of self-soothing, a reassurance to the gaslighter / narcissist that he is worthy of adoration".

Vagabundo1

03-24-22, 16:50

Nordico

03-24-22, 19:15

What's not in dispute is that:

She is a tourist, like most readers on this board.

She was stabbed 5 times sitting outside a hotel in copa, so you should not sit outside a hotel in copa.

In addition, as a girl here said to me when I showed her this, copa is in a favela. Just be aware of that.What is not in dispute either is that the article says paulista not French. I just pointed out that a board member who thinks he's the master of the universe, can't read, don't understand Portuguese or just made a simple mistake that can happen to anybody, tried to make his own mistake disappear by attacking (again) an other board member.

According to you one shouldn't sit outside a hotel in Copa, but your buddy ridiculed a first time RJ monger for not adventuring outside his comfort zone. Even his opinion about a hotel breakfast was all wrong according this besserwisser.

Nordico

03-24-22, 19:39

Senor Nordico, here you go after Sperto, one of the most valuable long term members of this group, for a trivial, ridiculous reason. That kind of noise is just Brazil Withdrawal Syndrome.

Look, this board is very valuable.

Thanks to it, and some posts from Safado69, here I sit in a beach condo in Barra, smoking weed, and going to the beach. You (and Spidy, and Cane) come in insisting that the Frenchwoman is not French after 8 years in France. Well if not French, then a Libertine! If I don't know a Libertine when I see one, then I am not a retired Swiss Navy Lieutenant Commander!It's very possible that Sperto's posts have been useful in the past, but during the last few years I haven't seen that. Just pointless rants against other board members. He should be able to take his own poison, but no. Last time he ran crying to Jackson and probably he's somewhere weeping and pulling the wings off a fly.

There is no doubt I would prefer being in Brazil, but unfortunately I have to work to earn my modest salary.
A beach condo in Barra sounds good, but you should really stop smoking weed. https://www.therecoveryvillage.com/mental-health/narcissistic-personality-disorder/substance-abuse/.

Nordico

03-24-22, 20:04

When is the last / next time you were / will be in Brazil?

The more you, and Cane, and Spidy, et al, attack me, the more the people who are actually here support me.

So, please along with all the other nadering nabobs of negativism, keep writing.I was in RJ last November and I have the tickets bought and hotels reserved for my next trip, but I don't have a habit of announcing the exact dates of my trips. Like I said in my previous post I have to work for my living. Fortunately I'm pretty happy with my life even when I'm not traveling.

It's great that there are people who support you. It seems very important to you. I have never had any fanboys, just friends, so I don't know how it is. I hope you don't abuse them too much. I have heard some stories.

Sperto

03-24-22, 20:32

The more you, and Cane, and Spidy, et al, attack me, the more the people who are actually here support me.Never mind the three musketeers of the OFC. I solved the problem by adding them to my ignore list.

You do your thing, enjoy life and keep posting. Let the bitter old men envy you. Don't loose any energi on arguing with posters who lives in a fantasy world.

Cheers.

Spidy

03-24-22, 20:45

... There are some members of this board who have been or are coming to Rio in +/- 180 days who have useful information. JimmyBoy, Nounce, Sperto, and many others.

Then there are board members, including you, Cane, Nordico among others, who just post for its own sake, and almost never post anything of actual daily value. But you argue forcefully for your right to write ...So when did you become ISG judge, jury and executioner?

Should we now call you "Judge VB1"? And why are you dragging others into your argument and naming others in your argument?

Are you trying to start a fight or something between BMs?

LET'S BE CLEAR about something. I VALUE ALL BM posts (old/new/whatever). I may not find "value" in what they post, but I value them posting for their own sake or as YOU PUT IT, "for its own sake".

"for its own sake". Do you find that a bit judgemental? Why other BMs post is their reason and theirs alone.

ALL MY ARGUMENTS are w/r to the subject matter. In this case, I am making the argument that ALL posts have value to one BM, or another", boots-on-the-ground or NOT.

I am not putting an"expiration date on BMs" or criticizing the information provided by BMs, or the way other BMs monger.

Look, if other the BMs (that you've mentioned) want to debate, argue and discuss the "subject matter at hand", I'm sure they will do so at their own free will.

This is NOT a "call to arms!!!", as you seem to suggest, by dragging other BMs into your argument, perhaps even unsolicited (??).

I see Bubba Boy's Guide as of timeless value about Rio.Right, got it! Just many other BMs will see it as outdated and irrelevant to them, after some 10+ years. Yet others my still find some residual value.

I'm looking for information from people who have been in Brazil or will be in Brazil +/- 180 days. I'm looking for current information. ... So again, why respond to BMs posts, if it's not information from "people who have been in Brazil or will be in Brazil +/- 180 days"?.

Vagabundo1

03-24-22, 20:55

Well my government pays my retirement which funds the Swiss Navy invasion of Brazilian asses ad infinitum!

That said I disagree with you about whether the chick is French.

But you have more credibility than others who haven't been here for years.

I was in RJ last November and I have the tickets bought and hotels reserved for my next trip, but I don't have a habit of announcing the exact dates of my trips. Like I said in my previous post I have to work for my living. Fortunately I'm pretty happy with my life even when I'm not traveling.

It's great that there are people who support you. It seems very important to you. I have never had any fanboys, just friends, so I don't know how it is. I hope you don't abuse them too much. I have heard some stories.

Spidy

03-24-22, 21:42

And a picture can't have timeless value? At least to somebody? The guide you cherish isn't even an original work. Anybody who has been around for a long time knows that your hero lifted what he wrote from another monger famously known as "Bwana Dik". That's who we all should hail. The real creator! No, instead you worship a badly outdated work of plagiarism! ... Let the truth, bare witness...Amen!

There is no +/- 180 day rule here. And nobody passed and willed you moderator privileges to unilaterally impose one ... Again, IMO, all posts have value, although one BM or another, may personally not find "value" in what is being posted.

But like many others, you RESPECT their right to do so on an open public forum, regardless of what my be considered, "bullying".

Vagabundo1

03-24-22, 21:50

Thanks for the intervention (s), but after reflection, I have decided to keep fucking Brazilian women for the cost of a few super value meals in the Rich World for the foreseeable future, smoking weed, going to the beach and generally telling the puritans of the world to kiss my ass.

Take a break from the mongering man.

WyattEarp

03-24-22, 22:03

On almost all the sex boards around the world some very basic etiquette is obvious for a sex forum to function well and amicably.

Have fun! Duh.

Live and let live. Frequent "Live as I live!" digressions and pronouncements can become self-indulgent and dismissive of others.

When one desires to disagree or correct another member, use some tact. One can and should praise informative posts, but everyone should refrain from the evaluation of posts they don't consider worthwhile.

Many of us including myself have violated this basic etiquette. Finally, I lost track of this "she's French, she's Brazilian" debate. I'm guessing many members are in the same boat.

Anaggie

03-24-22, 22:11

Better than watching a movie (got my popcorn with extra butter) 🤣.

Spidy

03-24-22, 22:12

... I solved the problem by adding them to my ignore list ...Bravo!

Never mind the three musketeers of the OFC. ...

... There are some members of this board who have been or are coming to Rio in +/- 180 days who have useful information. JimmyBoy, Nounce, Sperto, and many others ... I could be childish and say, the "Four Musketeers", but I won't. Okay, I just did, but you get my point.

Mud slinging and name calling isn't my thing and holds no value for me.

And BTW, this is most certainly not a "call to arms", calling groups of ISGers "musketeers", as if to present a scenario that pits us against one another...STOP IT!

I value the posts of said BMs you mentioned, as well as countless other BMs posts I've read, "boot-on-the-ground" or NOT, "180-days" or NOT.

Spidy

03-24-22, 22:49

... You (and Spidy, and Cane) come in insisting that the Frenchwoman is not French after 8 years in France. Well if not French, ...W/R to the mugging, I never once argued the point of her being French, Paulista or otherwise. That was never my argument or the question I posed.

Please, do not drag my name into arguments, I did not make. Check your facts, before dragging BMs into your false narratives.

Vagabundo1

03-24-22, 22:51

I am moving on to gins and hash. After considering your interventions, I have decided to keep smoking, drinking, and fucking cheap Brazilian hoars.

It's very possible that Sperto's posts have been useful in the past, but during the last few years I haven't seen that. Just pointless rants against other board members. He should be able to take his own poison, but no. Last time he ran crying to Jackson and probably he's somewhere weeping and pulling the wings off a fly.

There is no doubt I would prefer being in Brazil, but unfortunately I have to work to earn my modest salary.
A beach condo in Barra sounds good, but you should really stop smoking weed. https://www.therecoveryvillage.com/mental-health/narcissistic-personality-disorder/substance-abuse/.

The Cane

03-24-22, 22:55

I could be childish and say, the "Four Musketeers", but I won't. Okay, I just did, but you get my point.So now we're the "Three" Musketeers. Is that all? If they only knew the real truth. I'm sure they don't want to actually. I mean, the monger referees would have to stop the action due to "piling on" LOLOLOL! And isn't it odd how some seem to always know what we're saying even when they've supposedly got us on ignore? Hmmm? Hahaha!

Vagabundo1

03-24-22, 23:08

I have actually found the French chick.

https://youtu.be/QSo0duY7-9s

And she has agreed with me to taunt you for a second time, while smoking a joint from a fresh delivery.

Better than watching a movie (got my popcorn with extra butter)..

Vagabundo1

03-24-22, 23:11

Let me tell you something. When I was second in command of a Swiss Naval Infantry Rifle Company on the Swiss Italian border, those dirty, nasty Italian drug dealers shot at my Fuziliers Naval. And that's all I remember. Pass the weed.

Well my government pays my retirement which funds the Swiss Navy invasion of Brazilian asses ad infinitum!

That said I disagree with you about whether the chick is French.

But you have more credibility than others who haven't been here for years.

ShooBree

03-24-22, 23:21

I could be childish and say, the "Four Musketeers", but I won't. Okay, I just did, but you get my point.

Mud slinging and name calling isn't my thing and holds no value for me.Lmfao, you're obviously a liar.

Balboa

03-25-22, 11:49

It's very possible that Sperto's posts have been useful in the past … Thanks to Sperto; his reports, advice, etc got me going to Brazil years ago. Though I've never met him in person, I am grateful.

Vagabundo1

03-25-22, 15:25

I hereby challenge my rival to a sort of duel. My best stripper hoar wrestles his best stripper hoar in baby oil at Praia Abrico!

https://youtu.be/IpbvtSQvgWM

There can be only one!

Better than watching a movie (got my popcorn with extra butter) 🤣.

Sperto

03-25-22, 17:51

Thanks to Sperto; his reports, advice, etc got me going to Brazil years ago. Though I've never met him in person, I am grateful.Thanks Balboa. I'm happy I inspired you to go to Brazil as I always enjoy your reports a lot.

Sperto

03-25-22, 19:13

I hereby challenge my rival to a sort of duel. My best stripper hoar wrestles his best stripper hoar in baby oil at Praia Abrico!Praia do Abricó, if you enjoy that nude beach you should try out Tambaba, in Paraíba (normally, single men's not allowed, just couples or girls). Nota 10! Nearby you have Praia Olho de Boi, in Buzios. Nice beach, few single girls, lots of couples and unfortunately quite a few single men and sausage riders.

Anaggie

03-25-22, 21:56

Nordico

03-26-22, 09:44

Thanks to Sperto; his reports, advice, etc got me going to Brazil years ago. Though I've never met him in person, I am grateful.I'm talking about this kind of behavior below. Nobody denies the emeritus monger's past merits and the question if the lady was French or not is just background noise, but it's nice of you giving him a virtual hug, if his feelings are hurt.

Balboa

03-26-22, 12:27

I'm talking about this kind of behavior below. Nobody denies the emeritus monger's past merits and the question if the lady was French or not is just background noise, but it's nice of you giving him a virtual hug, if his feelings are hurt.Actually I was just thanking someone publicly for helping me in the past.

I've made bozo posts in the past, and I'm sure I will again, Lol.

However, that's the nature of online forums, at times saying silly things, and later thinking, why did I post that? Lol.

I've enjoyed your posts as well, and those of many others.

Over the years I've gotten good at skimming thru and ignoring useless posts, and concentrating more on helpful and / or interesting posts.

I do really appreciate those who got me up and running though.

Cheers.

Nordico

03-26-22, 13:26

I've made bozo posts in the past, and I'm sure I will again, Lol.Most of us do that. Many times, if the discussion is heated, I should wait for the next day before posting LOL. Anyway, we, the veteran members, should be nicer to the new members when commenting their posts. There is a learning curve when one comes to a new mongering megapolis like RJ and mistakes are made, but if their posts are immediately shot down for some irrelevant error, they don't come back and what will be left, is us, the usual suspects, with our usual posts and opinions. I like to read the posts of the first timers with their enthusiasm and their mistakes and there is always something new to learn.

Vagabundo1

03-26-22, 17:18

https://www.xvideos.com/video53159137/cavala_luna_oliveira_bitching_with_males_on_the_streets_and_beaches_of_rio_de_janeiro

I have gone there with a girl, picked up a local couple and done a swing party. Once you start fucking the wives of Rio for free, you might just stay a while.

Praia do Abric, if you enjoy that nude beach you should try out Tambaba, in Paraba (normally, single men's not allowed, just couples or girls). Nota 10! Nearby you have Praia Olho de Boi, in Buzios. Nice beach, few single girls, lots of couples and unfortunately quite a few single men and sausage riders.

Balboa

03-26-22, 17:19

Most of us do that. Many times, if the discussion is heated, I should wait for the next day before posting LOL. Anyway, we, the veteran members, should be nicer to the new members when commenting their posts. There is a learning curve when one comes to a new mongering megapolis like RJ and mistakes are made, but if their posts are immediately shot down for some irrelevant error, they don't come back and what will be left, is us, the usual suspects, with our usual posts and opinions. I like to read the posts of the first timers with their enthusiasm and their mistakes and there is always something new to learn.Can't argue with that.

I agree 💯

Spidy

03-26-22, 19:46

...When one desires to disagree or correct another member, use some tact. One can and should praise informative posts, but everyone should refrain from the evaluation of posts they don't consider worthwhile...

...I've made bozo posts in the past, and I'm sure I will again, Lol.

However, that's the nature of online forums, at times saying silly things, and later thinking, why did I post that? Lol.

I've enjoyed your posts as well, and those of many others. ...Over the years I've gotten good at skimming thru and ignoring useless posts, and concentrating more on helpful and / or interesting posts...

Most of us do that. Many times, if the discussion is heated, I should wait for the next day before posting LOL. Anyway, we, the veteran members, should be nicer to the new members when commenting their posts. There is a learning curve when one comes to a new mongering megapolis like RJ and mistakes are made, but if their posts are immediately shot down for some irrelevant error, they don't come back and what will be left, is us, the usual suspects, with our usual posts and opinions. I like to read the posts of the first timers with their enthusiasm and their mistakes and there is always something new to learn. Thank you for the reminder.

All of these reports are definitely a good reminder, to check ourselves and to check our egos at said times.

Yes it been said many times, find what's of "value" to you and move on from the rest. But I guess it will ALWAYs bear repeating.

Vagabundo1

03-27-22, 02:04

Show me a man without an ego and I will show you a loser every time.

Talk trash here you porn stars.

Thank you for the reminder.

All of these reports are definitely a good reminder, to check ourselves and to check our egos at said times.

Yes it been said many times, find what's of "value" to you and move on from the rest. But I guess it will ALWAYs bear repeating.

Vagabundo1

03-27-22, 03:28

In the naval infantry, we still believe in incessant hazing.

Perhaps pussy ass rich countries in north America feel differently, but here in Switzerland, we still throw the weak under cows on the side of the eiger peak to roll downhill to their deaths.

Most of us do that. Many times, if the discussion is heated, I should wait for the next day before posting LOL. Anyway, we, the veteran members, should be nicer to the new members when commenting their posts. There is a learning curve when one comes to a new mongering megapolis like RJ and mistakes are made, but if their posts are immediately shot down for some irrelevant error, they don't come back and what will be left, is us, the usual suspects, with our usual posts and opinions. I like to read the posts of the first timers with their enthusiasm and their mistakes and there is always something new to learn.

Spidy

03-27-22, 20:21

Show me a man without an ego and I will show you a loser every time...Case and point your honor, I offer this into evidence, as exhibit A.

Spidy

03-27-22, 20:22

Better than watching a movie (got my popcorn with extra butter)

Ya see fellas...look, another fellow ISGer, got some "entertainment value" out of this little spat. No doubt much to our chagrin.

Anyways, Anaggie, hopefully there is no sequel, coming to a theater near you, anytime soon...kkkk!

PS: Although at the time, I thought to myself, "Dude, you're NOT HELPING!!!!" ...kkkk!

Nordico

04-10-22, 20:02

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Anaggie

04-11-22, 02:21

Ya see fellas...look, another fellow ISGer, got some "entertainment value" out of this little spat. No doubt much to our chagrin.

Anyways, Anaggie, hopefully there is no sequel, coming to a theater near you, anytime soon...kkkk!

PS: Although at the time, I thought to myself, "Dude, you're NOT HELPING!!!!" ...kkkk!Oh. There will be sequels. Of that I am sure of. Hopefully, I won't be involved in them but just be an innocent bystander 🤣.

Vagabundo1

04-12-22, 17:57

Senor Anaggie,

I hereby challenge your best two hoars to a game of naked baby oil soccer against my best two hoars!

There can be only one! Unless it is a dupla. Then there are 3 possible combinations of 69.

Do the math.

Oh. There will be sequels. Of that I am sure of. Hopefully, I won't be involved in them but just be an innocent bystander.

Vagabundo1

04-14-22, 21:31

Mongering is a luxury.

Spats about mongering are like yacht owners arguing over whether they like to drink Budweiser in a zodiac with a morena from Perola Negra or champagne with a morena from Massagemtijuca.com, and whether a red or a blue jeweled butt plug looks better up her ass.

That said, Parstiger and a new friend from Germany mongered out to Paris at 19 h and it was too early, and then over to Perola Negra and there was a hot new blonde, but homegirl has been doing the job here at the ranch for the cost of shrimp which she fries with lemon. We box on the balcony with the heavy bag and bag gloves while cooking, and oh by the way, the view here at Transamerica overlooking the Atlantic is just awesome.

You should take that list of Barra condos and you could just rent the rest of your life in those.

Oh. There will be sequels. Of that I am sure of. Hopefully, I won't be involved in them but just be an innocent bystander.

Anaggie

04-14-22, 22:44

Mongering is a luxury.

Spats about mongering are like yacht owners arguing over whether they like to drink Budweiser in a zodiac with a morena from Perola Negra or champagne with a morena from Massagemtijuca.com, and whether a red or a blue jeweled butt plug looks better up her ass.

That said, Parstiger and a new friend from Germany mongered out to Paris at 19 h and it was too early, and then over to Perola Negra and there was a hot new blonde, but homegirl has been doing the job here at the ranch for the cost of shrimp which she fries with lemon. We box on the balcony with the heavy bag and bag gloves while cooking, and oh by the way, the view here at Transamerica overlooking the Atlantic is just awesome.

You should take that list of Barra condos and you could just rent the rest of your life in those.I think in any topic you will have some spat between two parties. It is expected since we are human beings. I prefer reading about drama rather than creating it😜.

Renting for a few months would be my plan in Brazil. I have had many offers from suppliers down in Brazil to buy land or houses and I it has never been cost effective for me to pull the trigger. I would much rather fly in, stay somewhere where I have nothing to worry about and get the fuck out when I want.

Vagabundo1

05-22-22, 09:28

What does that even mean?

You have all the eloquence of Kamala Harris or Joe Biden without a speechwriter, teleprompter, or adderall cocktail and Nancy Pelosi's hand up your ass to give you your lines.

I've been to Scandallo. I will give you this. It is good for dinner. If you have to be in SP.

A 1,000 days departed is better than a lifetime of forever talking about places you have never been to.

GordyGekko

05-23-22, 03:11

Exactly!

Too bad certain mongers just don't understand this and keep insisting that "their" way is the only way and the right way. Eerily similar to the evangelical mentality.Yeah too bad that certain monger can't just stay on the Rio board instead of invading this board with irrelevant info. He just can't help but try to be the Pied Piper of Rio with his constant pushing of Perola Negra as a top tier terma and Barra as the place to be even though everybody knows it's a logistical nightmare for tourists.

The Cane

05-23-22, 11:11

Yeah too bad that certain monger can't just stay on the Rio board instead of invading this board with irrelevant info. He just can't help but try to be the Pied Piper of Rio with his constant pushing of Perola Negra as a top tier terma and Barra as the place to be even though everybody knows it's a logistical nightmare for tourists.Why do people come in here talking about the superiority of trash puteiros and Barra when that's a Rio thing? What's the reason for doing that? It can only be just to be argumentative and to engage in derogatory comments. At the very least, it all ought to be moved to the Stupid Shit in Brazil thread. Because that's exactly what it is.

Vagabundo1

05-23-22, 16:30

I did move it here.

You keep stroking your keyboard about Brazil despite not having been here for 1000+ days.

Give us another dozen posts about hotels that don't exist!

At the very least, it all ought to be moved to the Stupid Shit in Brazil thread. Because that's exactly what it is.

Vagabundo1

05-23-22, 17:18

I fucked a Brazilian girl 19 years old today to wake up as I have for the last 800 straight days.

You haven't been to Brazil in 1000+ days.

Yet you post multiple times a day.

Why do people come in here talking about the superiority of trash puteiros and Barra when that's a Rio thing? What's the reason for doing that? It can only be just to be argumentative and to engage in derogatory comments. At the very least, it all ought to be moved to the Stupid Shit in Brazil thread. Because that's exactly what it is.

The Cane

05-23-22, 21:35

I did move it here. You keep stroking your keyboard about Brazil despite not having been here for 1000+ days. Give us another dozen posts about hotels that don't exist!You keep stroking your ego (and your dick) over hotties at trash puteiros that don't exist! Hahaha! Yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda! Because that's what it sounds like to me! LOLOLOL! LMAO! Now excuse me while I go pack. Where am I going? That's none of your business!

https://youtu.be/7PBYGu4Az8s

Anaggie

05-23-22, 22:29

I did move it here.

You keep stroking your keyboard about Brazil despite not having been here for 1000+ days.

Give us another dozen posts about hotels that don't exist!And how is this any different from you stroking your keyboard daily putting down other posters who don't do it "your" way?

Those who don't visit VM or Perola Negra.

Those who don't wear vasco or bombeiro shirts or carry bombeiro wallets.

Those who don't fish for the best trash in VM.

Those who choose to stay in Copa / Impanema / Leblon rather than Barra.

I could go on. But you get the point. There are other posters with as much or even more knowledge than you about how they do it in Rio or SP and they contribute without putting others down about their ways.

I am sure you heard this when you were a kid. If you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all. Still applies today!!

GreenBud

05-23-22, 22:40

Mentally, I had associated the word Gringo with the people who "Who murdered indigenous people, raped their women, enslaved their men and pillaged their resources!" I would say "My people didn't do those things to you, don't ever call me a gringo, that's offensive!" and the brasilians would look at me like I had 3 heads and try to explain what the word meant to them.

No matter how many times they tried to explain to me that Gringo didn't mean the same thing to them as the historical reference that it meant in the US, I wasn't trying to hear it.Huh? What you described are the Spaniards.

Gringo from the Mexican perspective are the ones that stole all or parts of California, Arizona, New Mexico, Utah, Colorado, Nevada, and Texas.

Vagabundo1

05-23-22, 22:46

The difference is I am in Brazil posting about Brazil daily, and you're in El Paso posting about Brazil daily, looking forward to your next 3 day trip every 3 months or so.

As for the other comments, the monger who comes in and goes to 4 x 4 is fucking the same girls at Vila Mimosa. Some of the girls from VM are better than the 4 girls you paid 3200 for at 4 x 4, you just don't know the market well enough to realize it.

And how is this any different from you stroking your keyboard daily putting down other posters who don't do it "your" way?

Those who don't visit VM or Perola Negra.

Those who don't wear vasco or bombeiro shirts or carry bombeiro wallets.

Those who don't fish for the best trash in VM.

Those who choose to stay in Copa / Impanema / Leblon rather than Barra.

I could go on. But you get the point. There are other posters with as much or even more knowledge than you about how they do it in Rio or SP and they contribute without putting others down about their ways.

I am sure you heard this when you were a kid. If you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all. Still applies today!!

Anaggie

05-24-22, 01:06

The Cane

05-24-22, 01:46

I fucked a Brazilian girl 19 years old today to wake up as I have for the last 800 straight days.I don't give a fuck about you or anything that you do! Hahaha! Bags with condoms packed? Check! Boarding passes on phone? Check! Because I got a million trillion things I'd rather do than be fucking with you! LMBAO! LOLOLOL!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZR_X6PrASho

Vagabundo1

05-24-22, 03:30

It's not just me.

There were 4 ISGers out at Barra, Posto 2, on Saturday at Classico Beach Club. It's a free market. That's where Perola Negra is. The girls there on the beach were super hot and worth it just to enjoy for itself.

Moreover, it was Safado69 who recommended Transamerica in Barra.

And it was Rio that built the metro line out here.

I am just reporting what is happening.

Yeah too bad that certain monger can't just stay on the Rio board instead of invading this board with irrelevant info. He just can't help but try to be the Pied Piper of Rio with his constant pushing of Perola Negra as a top tier terma and Barra as the place to be even though everybody knows it's a logistical nightmare for tourists.

Vagabundo1

05-24-22, 11:26

GordyGekko

05-25-22, 16:10

You've contributed the technique of showing your tests to get BBFS.

I would add showing your tests in Porto is even better.

Further, if you go to 4 x 4, then you can walk 200 meters to emporio de banho.

https://www.emporiodobanhorj.com/massagistas

The girls are the same!

Top Vila girls go to 4 x 4 or on photoa in a week.

The tier 1 prive girls and 4 x4 girls are the same. It's just which hours they work.

The 4 x4 girls and perola negra girls are the same. Penelope has been at both, on any given night.

It's all just 50% deductible on corporate taxes meals and entertainment anyway. Right?Here we go again with the jealousy. You're so jealous of Anaggie and always calling him out on what he spends, especially that one night at 4 x4. You were obviously floored and jealous that you could never do that. He can pay for R1K overnights, meanwhile you're digging through prives or R50 favela rats!.

I bet you're some military reject living off a modest pension (definitely not a retired Swiss Naval Commander from Lugano, Switzerland LOL). I've met many of your types while in Colombia. Trying to stretch that mongering budget as far as you can on that modest income. The difference is that the other retired military mongers I've met aren't delusional into thinking they're some slick market makers in mongering. This isn't a stock market. This isn't war. It's just a hobby where we can pay for what we want, if we can afford it.

Sam 14

05-25-22, 21:46

Here we go again with the jealousy.This thread should be called Stupid Shit in the Brazil Forum. Most of Vagabundo's posts, which he kindly takes the time to write, are funny. And every one of them contain useful information. As opposed to Gordo's, which are neither—Only fixation on Vagabundo’s posts..Haha. Who's jealous?

WyattEarp

05-25-22, 23:28

This thread should be called Stupid Shit in the Brazil Forum. Most of Vagabundo's posts, which he kindly takes the time to write, are funny. And every one of them contain useful information. As opposed to Gordo's, which are neitherOnly fixation on Vagabundos posts..Haha. Who's jealous?There are many ways to monger in Brazil. I always appreciate all the different perspectives. I also enjoy the levity.

Sometimes the zeal has become aggressive and intimidating. So of course, there's going to be some push back. The Board should be open to differing point of views.

Nordico

05-25-22, 23:32

This thread should be called Stupid Shit in the Brazil Forum. Most of Vagabundo's posts, which he kindly takes the time to write, are funny. And every one of them contain useful information. As opposed to Gordo's, which are neitherOnly fixation on Vagabundos posts..Haha. Who's jealous?This is cute. Vagabundo has his own "defensor del pobre". I think there is no need for the fanboys to come to his defense. Regardless if I agree with him or not, I'm sure he can defend himself, but like I said, cute.

Sam 14

05-26-22, 01:11

. .Regardless if I agree with him or not, I'm sure he can defend himself, but like I said, cute.Thanks. Well, in hindsight I did exactly what I was complaining about: Wasting bandwidth, attacking another poster, while adding nothing.

Rather than defending anyone, I meant it more as a thank you to members (such as yourself) who frequently post good shit, regardless if I agree with it or not, as you say.

Nordico

07-27-22, 17:06

So, that is how I prioritize my travel expenses based on my preferences and constrained only by my finances. I never spend more than I can afford to pay off on the due date. Nobody has exactly the same preferences or the same constraints. So, we all plan differently, but we all want to have the best time that we can afford.It seems that I'm total opposite of you. I spent 2840 euros on my business class ticket to São Paulo in October-November. I think if I were 15 cm shorter or 20 years younger, I would travel in the economy class, but I'm quite tall and over 50 and therefore I prefer spending the 16 hours of travel each way comfortably. Another thing to consider is the jet lag, which you guys traveling from the US, don't have to suffer. It helps when you can sleep properly during the flight.

I usually stay in Novotel or Mercure hotels which I think are very good, but not luxurious like Renaissance or other 5 star hotels. I found a really good Black Friday deal and I paid only 417 euros plus 160 euros worth of points for 16 nights in a Mercure hotel in Jardins in their best room, which is very spacious, breakfast included. That means I paid 26 euros cash per night. The lowest I have paid was 18 euros per night in Mercure Times Square in Moema last year. I have also booked Novotel in Belo Horizonte for three nights. That was more expensive.

I will probably visit Scandallo few times during my trip, but I prefer going to Bomboa and Casarao. I have always found what I have been looking for for BRL 400-500 and then I have the Twitter girls and couple of girls I know from my previous trips whom I pay something similar.

I'm not rich, but I like small luxuries like flying in the business class and I can afford it. Flying business class is like Brazilian garotas. You get addicted very easily.

There isn't any right or wrong way to travel and monger, even if some people here tell otherwise.

The Cane

07-27-22, 17:21

Xpartan

07-27-22, 19:41

It seems that I'm total opposite of you. I spent 2840 euros on my business class ticket to So Paulo in October-November. I think if I were 15 cm shorter or 20 years younger, I would travel in the economy class, but I'm quite tall and over 50 and therefore I prefer spending the 16 hours of travel each way comfortably. Another thing to consider is the jet lag, which you guys traveling from the US, don't have to suffer. It helps when you can sleep properly during the flight.

I usually stay in Novotel or Mercure hotels which I think are very good, but not luxurious like Renaissance or other 5 star hotels. I found a really good Black Friday deal and I paid only 417 euros plus 160 euros worth of points for 16 nights in a Mercure hotel in Jardins in their best room, which is very spacious, breakfast included. That means I paid 26 euros cash per night. The lowest I have paid was 18 euros per night in Mercure Times Square in Moema last year. I have also booked Novotel in Belo Horizonte for three nights. That was more expensive.

I will probably visit Scandallo few times during my trip, but I prefer going to Bomboa and Casarao. I have always found what I have been looking for for BRL 400-500 and then I have the Twitter girls and couple of girls I know from my previous trips whom I pay something similar.

I'm not rich, but I like small luxuries like flying in the business class and I can afford it. Flying business class is like Brazilian garotas. You get addicted very easily.

There isn't any right or wrong way to travel and monger, even if some people here tell otherwise.That's true, there aren't right or wrong way, at least for occasional travelers like me. If I was traveling every month (like I did at one point in my life), I would feel differently.

But now that I only travel 2-3 times a year, I just refuse to stay in shitty hotels or apartments, or save on good food. Hell, I've saved tons of travel money during Covid, LOL.

As to Business Class, I agree it's addictive, but I only book them on miles when I can. I just don't feel comfortable to blow a few K to feel comfortable (pun intended) for 10 hours.

Spending on pussy is another story. If I can have the time of my life in Rio for 150-200 Reals, my greedy self really hates me spending 500, unless there is an added value, like a terma environment.

This is why I don't like mongering in Europe. I love Europe, but I sparingly engage while there. Every time I see a 200-euro price tag, my brain involuntarily starts calculating how much Brazilian pussy I could have for that kind of dough, LOL.

Axel Heyst

07-27-22, 21:20

It seems that I'm total opposite of you. I spent 2840 euros on my business class ticket to So Paulo in October-November.

I usually stay in Novotel or Mercure hotels which I think are very good, but not luxurious like Renaissance or other 5 star hotels. I found a really good Black Friday deal and I paid only 417 euros plus 160 euros worth of points for 16 nights in a Mercure hotel in Jardins in their best room, I will probably visit Scandallo few times during my trip, but I prefer going to Bomboa and Casarao. I have always found what I have been looking for for BRL 400-500 and then I have the Twitter girls and couple of girls I know from my previous trips whom I pay something similar.

I'm not rich, but I like small luxuries like flying in the business class and I can afford it. Flying business class is like Brazilian garotas. You get addicted very easily.

There isn't any right or wrong way to travel and monger, even if some people here tell otherwise.I don't think we are that far apart actually. You place a higher priority on air travel while I place a higher priority on hotel accommodations, but neither one of us is interested in overpaying. We both look for the best price for the things we want.

I also think we both place the highest priority on the girls. Do we have different taste in girls? I don't know, maybe, but that is what makes things interesting, and SP can certainly satisfy the needs and desires of a variety of gents.

Yeah, I am a big fan of Scandallo. I really like the joint and have compared it favorably with Malio Club in Jakarta and Rio Sauna in Macau, two of my favorite joints in the world. But as I posted a little while back, most of my Scandallo girsl are what I refer to as tier 2 girls ie sexy, naughty, slender, all natural, pretty girl next door types. These girls are currently in the 600 to 700 br price range. Occasionally though, I meet a Scandallo stunner who is real friendly on top of amazing looking. It is real nice to go model quality once in a while albeit for 1000 to 1200 br. On my last trip one of my favorite Scandallo girls was just such a gal and she was amazing in bed on top of looking fantastic and sporting a wickedly slender, natural body with "Bee" cup ta tasa. So, I happily hooked up with her 3 times before she went on her European tour, but we have kept in touch and I am pretty sure we will get together again when I return in October.

But my current favorite SP girl is a sexy little tier 2 spinner. She is so cute and adorable. LOL. I love her although I could not rate her face higher than 6. 8 and her body is 7. 5 (a real, real good body). She is just the sweetest girl I have met in a long time and she checks off all of my boxes. I am going to take her to Ilhabela Island for a few nights. It should be a lot of fun. A. H. Is in love! KKK.

But getting back to our mutual likes: You like Bomboa. Hey, so do I! On my last trip I pretty much spent 45% of my time in Scandallo or with Scandallo girls at my hotel and I spent 45% of my time in Bomboa or with Bomboa girls at my hotel. Do you know Orlando?

The remainder of my time was spent at the clinicas plus I visited Casarao a couple of times and had a good time there. IMHO, the SP clinicas offer the best bang for your buck in Brazil. I think they have better quality girls than the Prive's in RJ. I also think that the best looking 5% of clinica girls (at the better places) could do alright in Scandallo or Bomboa, but for one reason or another they choose to work in a clinica.

Anyway, I really agree with your final thought, "There isn't any right or wrong way to travel and monger, even if some people here tell otherwise. " Right on.

Nordico

07-27-22, 22:11

That's true, there aren't right or wrong way, at least for occasional travelers like me. If I was traveling every month (like I did at one point in my life), I would feel differently.

But now that I only travel 2-3 times a year, I just refuse to stay in shitty hotels or apartments, or save on good food. Hell, I've saved tons of travel money during Covid, LOL.

As to Business Class, I agree it's addictive, but I only book them on miles when I can. I just don't feel comfortable to blow a few K to feel comfortable (pun intended) for 10 hours.

Spending on pussy is another story. If I can have the time of my life in Rio for 150-200 Reals, my greedy self really hates me spending 500, unless there is an added value, like a terma environment.

This is why I don't like mongering in Europe. I love Europe, but I sparingly engage while there. Every time I see a 200-euro price tag, my brain involuntarily starts calculating how much Brazilian pussy I could have for that kind of dough, LOL.It's interesting to see how different people value different things. Mr. Cane and me flying in business class or better and staying in Mercure hotels, which in no case are shitty (and I don't think you meant they are) and other people flying coach and paying $200 or more per night for staying in Hyatt, Hilton or Intercontinental. In ten days or two weeks we all spend a similar amount of money on hotels and flights. There are so many good 4-star hotels, like Bourbon or Melia under $100 in SP, that I can't think of paying more than that. Parabens for those who can do both. Cheers.

The Cane

07-27-22, 22:23

WyattEarp

07-27-22, 23:12

Axel Heyst

07-28-22, 12:06

When traveling abroad, staying at American hotel chains is a waste of money. Of course if the company is picking up the tab, it's great to accumulate those award points and perks.You have to travel smart. If you do, you will find some great deals with "American" hotel chains as I tried to point out in my previous posts. It is the same principal as finding the best rate on air travel whether you are flying 1st class or coach.

For example, the incentive signing bonuses with various hotel credit cards are great. Hilton Amex offers 100,000 pts sign up bonus for their zero annual fee CC. That translates into 3 or 4 free nights depending on the Hilton hotel. Intercontinental also has a zero annual fee credit card with a nice incentive signing bonus too. Haytt Chase signup bonus is 60,000 pts for their annual fee card. The Hyatt SP rooms costs between 9,000 and 12,000 pts per night depending on the night. Marriot CC's offer similar sign up incentives. Get one or get them all like me. KKK.

The 1st year's membership fee is waived with all of these annual fee hotel CC's, so after you receive your bonus sign up points and stay at the hotel of your choice for free, you can cancel the card within the 1st 12 months and not pay any annual fee. Or you can decide to keep the card, pay the future annual fees which is between $60 to $90 after the initial 12 month grace period and in return receive a free voucher night every year which is good for say a free night at the Renaissance SP which is currently priced at around $250/ night.

Another benefit of membership status with "American" 5 star hotel chains is the free room upgrade that I briefly mentioned in my previous posts. Hyatt SP gave me a 1 bedroom suite upgrade gratis. Intercontinental SP the same. Hilton gave me an executive room upgrade. Marriott Renaisance SP same same. All 4 hotels added a complimentary breakfast upgrade as well.

So, check it out. A deal is a deal.

A. H.

The stupid shit is why 5 star hotels in SP and RJ are so expensive compared to their sister 5 star hotels in BKK and Jakarta. The answer is BKK & Jakarta have better infrastructure ie a lot more 5 star hotel rooms. RJ hotel space really surprised me on my 1st visit. I was expecting to see a lot more hotels lined up on Copacabana and Ipanema beaches than there was, RJ being such a famous & iconic beach destination.

Xpartan

07-30-22, 04:34

It's interesting to see how different people value different things. Mr. Cane and me flying in business class or better and staying in Mercure hotels, which in no case are shitty (and I don't think you meant they are) and other people flying coach and paying $200 or more per night for staying in Hyatt, Hilton or Intercontinental. In ten days or two weeks we all spend a similar amount of money on hotels and flights. There are so many good 4-star hotels, like Bourbon or Melia under $100 in SP, that I can't think of paying more than that. Parabens for those who can do both. Cheers.I've stayed at Mercure hotels a few times, they're fine. But the truth is these megachains have consolidated so many distinctive brands, you can find whatever flavor you want WITHIN the chain. I normally look for a good deal that affords a bit of luxury. In cheap cities, I use cash, in expensive markets I'll try points or Airbnb for more space. I mean the difference is blurred between the both nowadays. In SP buddy and I stayed in a great 2 bdrm condo with a huge gym, lounge, two terrific swimming pools that were always empty. There really wasn't much difference other than room service, which I don't use anyway. In cheap markets I prefer upscale Airbnbs. You've got a lot of space and girls love frolicking in a private pool or Jacuzzi, LOL.

When traveling abroad, staying at American hotel chains is a waste of money. Of course if the company is picking up the tab, it's great to accumulate those award points and perks.LOL, basic rooms in American or non-American 4-5* chains are all the same. There is no difference, I can think of. If anything, I've never stayed in a 4* American hotel without an AC, but apparently, it's not uncommon in Europe. Maybe some boutique hotels, but lots of them have merged with the chains.

You have to travel smart. If you do, you will find some great deals with "American" hotel chains as I tried to point out in my previous posts. It is the same principal as finding the best rate on air travel whether you are flying 1st class or coach.

For example, the incentive signing bonuses with various hotel credit cards are great. Hilton Amex offers 100,000 pts sign up bonus for their zero annual fee CC. That translates into 3 or 4 free nights depending on the Hilton hotel. Intercontinental also has a zero annual fee credit card with a nice incentive signing bonus too. Haytt Chase signup bonus is 60,000 pts for their annual fee card. The Hyatt SP rooms costs between 9,000 and 12,000 pts per night depending on the night. Marriot CC's offer similar sign up incentives. Get one or get them all like me. KKK.

The 1st year's membership fee is waived with all of these annual fee hotel CC's, so after you receive your bonus sign up points and stay at the hotel of your choice for free, you can cancel the card within the 1st 12 months and not pay any annual fee. Or you can decide to keep the card, pay the future annual fees which is between $60 to $90 after the initial 12 month grace period and in return receive a free voucher night every year which is good for say a free night at the Renaissance SP which is currently priced at around $250/ night.

Another benefit of membership status with "American" 5 star hotel chains is the free room upgrade that I briefly mentioned in my previous posts. Hyatt SP gave me a 1 bedroom suite upgrade gratis. Intercontinental SP the same. Hilton gave me an executive room upgrade. Marriott Renaisance SP same same. All 4 hotels added a complimentary breakfast upgrade as well.

So, check it out. A deal is a deal.

A. H.

The stupid shit is why 5 star hotels in SP and RJ are so expensive compared to their sister 5 star hotels in BKK and Jakarta. The answer is BKK & Jakarta have better infrastructure ie a lot more 5 star hotel rooms. RJ hotel space really surprised me on my 1st visit. I was expecting to see a lot more hotels lined up on Copacabana and Ipanema beaches than there was, RJ being such a famous & iconic beach destination.Only Hilton guarantees a free breakfast with a better credit card that gives you Gold status like Surpass (and only abroad, in US Hiltons you get a lousy voucher). Not the others. You have to be at least Platinum at Marriott, Explorer (top status) at Hyatt, and there is no free elite breakfast at IC. Some hotels are super-nice and will extend this benefit to you, but that's just luck. Having said that, I've also had some amazing upgrades at Marriott, Radisson, and once at Hilton over the years.

And why is RJ is so pricey? Because there isn't nearly enough high-end hotels. Hilton is an especially good bet on points when the cost isn't astronomical (5 nights for 4). JW Marriott is often cheap, too, and also 5 for 4, but a) no breakfast unless you're Plat and b) ocean-view rooms are extra. At Hilton all rooms are ocean-view.

Anyhoo, when hotels in Rio cost a lot, Airbnb here I come.

Spidy

08-10-22, 02:53

You know those things are totally unrelated and it sounds more like you are your own slave, right? You also know if it takes even longer for you to visit Brazil, you will

become Bubba boy 2, right? ...

Nounce, I was trying to figure out what you meant and if it was even correctly contextualize according the initial dust-up between BMs and the circumstances surrounding the Bwana Dik guide (aka.The Bubba Boy Guide).

Brief summary of my Version of events : (Others please feel free to provide their own version, if I've missed anything.)

For awhile now, VB1, has been decrying and stating the absurdity about BMs, that they shouldn't post information/contribute to the Brazil threads, if they haven't had "boots-on-the-ground" in the last 2 years. This messaging was so toxic to many BMs, that it caused quite the "dust-up" (if you remember) and many BMs, including myself and The Cane, pushed back.

Here are a couple of posts , highlighting, around the time/days, one of these "dust-ups" occurred, w/r to the topic at hand. I think there was others, but they currently allude me. (Please PM/post if anyone know of other dates or threads).

I've been in Rio for 100 weeks ... But I think everyone should know that you're basically a blogger about a subject in which your actual boots on the ground knowledge is over 2 years old....

Right, and that is not a put down? You're not even in Rio, like The Cane, yet you post daily. It speaks for itself.

Then, The Cane, rightly so, called him out and pushed back.

This was in regards to his inconsistent, disconnected and hypocritical stance, on posting/contributing information, reporting or helping other BMs if the information or person had not had boots-on-the-ground in the last 2 years. Yet all the while he was pushing and pimping a 10+ yr old document with 10+ yr old information.

Hence the contradiction and hypocracy, surrounding the Bwana Dik guide (aka. "The Bubba Boy Guide" the updated version(s) by Bubba Boy). So Cane, was simply pointing out, if you are going to criticize BMs who post and share information more than 2 years old (on Brazil), then DON'T BE A HYPOCRITE and pimp-out the 10+ yr old guide.

... Just absurd and ridiculous to think, just because other BM/ISGers haven't been on the ground in 2, 3 or even 10 years, they shouldn't post, as if they don't have the right to post or have anything to contribute, is nonsensical.

I remember this because even I called out VB1, on this nonsense. Not sure what VB1 reasons were (he'll have to provide his version of events/reasons), but his position on "what should be contributed", just didn't sit right with some of us, so we pushed back, saying "we value all information", no matter the age.

There is no ISG regulations (that I know of) that disallows the posting of information, experiences, nostalgia, stories or news, more than 2 years old.

For example: I just helped another BM with an "unwanted pregnancy" problem, with a story/experience that I had in 2005, that was relevant today. How is that NOT helpful to other BMs, even though I haven't had boots-on-the-ground in 2 years?

(LINK: "Pregnant sugar baby in Rio. Part 3": http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2192-Rio-de-Janeiro-Reports&p=2728983&viewfull=1#post2728983)

There are those of us, that post and report on our known information and/or experiences gained in Brazil from 1, 2, 5, 10, 20, or 30+ years ago. IMHO, it's ALL GOOD information/experiences, that is honestly shared, in the hopes that some BMs may find it helpful, despite said age of the information. Many of us just need to learn to take what we need and leave/ignore the rest.

Although, there are times, like in this case here, where "push back" is warranted.

Nounce, with that said, can you shed some light on what you meant by,"You know those things are totally unrelated and it sounds more like you are your own slave, right? You also know if it takes even longer for you to visit Brazil, you will become Bubba boy 2, right?" ???

"Absorb what is useful. Reject what is useless. Add what is essentially your own." At BruceLeeLegacy. VB1, given your history on "bullying, telling others what to post, what to wear, were to monger, how to spend their own money...etc", this quote (and I must say a pretty good one at that), seems bit disingenuous. However, currently, I'm inclined to believe you and give the benefit of the doubt, w/r to posting "age old information".

The Cane

08-10-22, 12:35

For awhile now, VB1, has been decrying and stating the absurdity about BMs, that they shouldn't post information/contribute to the Brazil threads, if they haven't had "boots-on-the-ground" in the last 2 years. VB1, given your history on "bullying, telling others what to post, what to wear, where to monger, how to spend their own money...etc", this quote (and I must say a pretty good one at that), seems bit disingenuous.It's actually worse than that. He's said that nobody should be posting if the information is more than 6 months from having had boots on the ground. He made a post to that effect somewhere in these threads, but I'm not wasting my time looking for it. But who, I ask, anointed him Monger Emperor? And how purposeful and productive was (past tense) his reign anyway? He essentially turned the Brazil threads into a self-promoting, personal diary that annoyed so many members that they stopped posting. And I know of one senior member who actually quit the board altogether. He stopped posting and got rid of his account (the last time I searched for him I could not find him here). I wouldn't give this guy the benefit of the doubt on anything. He even posted under an old handle to make it look like somebody else was joining him in criticizing another member here. Now that was low! Maybe he forgot that many of us first encountered him under that old handle, but us old-timers did not. The best predictor of the future is the past. We need not words but actions. Walk the talk!

Xpartan

08-10-22, 20:12

It's actually worse than that. He's said that nobody should be posting if the information is more than 6 months from having had boots on the ground. He made a post to that effect somewhere in these threads, but I'm not wasting my time looking for it. But who, I ask, anointed him Monger Emperor? And how purposeful and productive was (past tense) his reign anyway? He essentially turned the Brazil threads into a self-promoting, personal diary that annoyed so many members that they stopped posting. And I know of one senior member who actually quit the board altogether. He stopped posting and got rid of his account (the last time I searched for him I could not find him here). I wouldn't give this guy the benefit of the doubt on anything. He even posted under an old handle to make it look like somebody else was joining him in criticizing another member here. Now that was low! Maybe he forgot that many of us first encountered him under that old handle, but us old-timers did not. The best predictor of the future is the past. We need not words but actions. Walk the talk!Come on, this is just ridiculous. People leave forums for all kinds of reasons. I don't know how thin-skinned one must be to get rid of his account just because he's gotten in q.

Annoying or not, he brings a lot of useful info and valuable datapoints for those 99% of us who travel occasionally and can't just move to Brazil.

Xpartan

08-10-22, 20:17

It's actually worse than that. He's said that nobody should be posting if the information is more than 6 months from having had boots on the ground. He made a post to that effect somewhere in these threads, but I'm not wasting my time looking for it. But who, I ask, anointed him Monger Emperor? And how purposeful and productive was (past tense) his reign anyway? He essentially turned the Brazil threads into a self-promoting, personal diary that annoyed so many members that they stopped posting. And I know of one senior member who actually quit the board altogether. He stopped posting and got rid of his account (the last time I searched for him I could not find him here). I wouldn't give this guy the benefit of the doubt on anything. He even posted under an old handle to make it look like somebody else was joining him in criticizing another member here. Now that was low! Maybe he forgot that many of us first encountered him under that old handle, but us old-timers did not. The best predictor of the future is the past. We need not words but actions. Walk the talk!Coincidentally hit the "upload" button and cut my reply.

So what I was trying to say is that I'll sooner believe that the above account-closing member decided to run for Senate rather than he got so irreversibly damaged by Vagabundo remarks.

The Cane

08-11-22, 02:51

Come on, this is just ridiculous. People leave forums for all kinds of reasons. I don't know how thin-skinned one must be to get rid of his account just because he's gotten in q. Annoying or not, he brings a lot of useful info and valuable datapoints for those 99% of us who travel occasionally and can't just move to Brazil.As ridiculous as it may seem, it's the truth. And I have zero reason to lie about it. Now, I won't reveal the member's name publicly because I don't think he would want that. I will say that I didn't believe him when he told me he was out of here. I didn't think he was going to do it, but he did, and he said it was because he thought VB1 had ruined the Brazil section over a two-year period, and he no longer wanted to participate here. And sure enough, he hasn't posted here in months. And when I last searched for his handle, I could not find it here. That's the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but. I'm reporting what the member told me he was going to do, and what he has in fact done. I didn't think he was serious, but he was. Believe it or not. Hey, it's the stupid shit thread right?

The Cane

08-11-22, 03:13

Coincidentally hit the "upload" button and cut my reply.

So what I was trying to say is that I'll sooner believe that the above account-closing member decided to run for Senate rather than he got so irreversibly damaged by Vagabundo remarks.I tried to send you a message, but your box is full. Please clear.

Nounce

08-11-22, 14:59

Nounce, I was trying to figure out what you meant and if it was even correctly contextualize according the initial dust-up between BMs and the circumstances surrounding the Bwana Dik guide (aka.The Bubba Boy Guide). ....In short,

I value BB's writing and I value The Cane's writing. The Cane dismisses BB's writing. I assume The Cane's values The Cane's writing.

When I compare The Cane to BB, it is a compliment from me like I stated in my post. I guess The Cane is not upset about my compliment. But there is a conflict based on The Cane's view, so what do you think The Cane is upset with?

Use wealth as an argument is a little silly. Luxury is a handicap when you can't really afford it. I can live on 60 are $ a day in Sao Paulo and enjoy it. That gave me the freedom of choices to do what I want to do today, not tomorrow or in the future, and I can say no to the things that I don't want to do. I have freedom to do things on my terms. I can also hang with most people when I choose to regardless cost.

The Cane

08-11-22, 16:01

In short,

I value BB's writing and I value The Cane's writing. The Cane dismisses BB's writing. I assume The Cane's values The Cane's writing.

When I compare The Cane to BB, it is a compliment from me like I stated in my post. I guess The Cane is not upset about my compliment. But there is a conflict based on The Cane's view, so what do you think The Cane is upset with?

Use wealth as an argument is a little silly. Luxury is a handicap when you can't really afford it. I can live on 60 are $ a day in Sao Paulo and enjoy it. That gave me the freedom of choices to do what I want to do today, not tomorrow or in the future, and I can say no to the things that I don't want to do. I have freedom to do things on my terms. I can also hang with most people when I choose to regardless cost.Once again the hypocrisy comes out. It was VB1 who first resorted to a "wealth argument", insinuating that I have not traveled to Brazil because I can't afford it. Did you refer to his writing then as "silly"? No, it's only if I decide to address the matter head-on. Then you have the gall to call "silly" on me. Why didn't you say that when he made his charge and made it an issue? Oh yeah that's right. You value what he has to say. Whether it's based on anything or not, other than petty mean-spiritedness. What does he know about me anyway? Just understand that "affordability", which he brought up, has nothing to do with it. You want to come at me Nounce in a proxy war? Then you had better come correct and drop the bias that keeps you overlooking the transgressions of VB1 and Sperto while criticizing me. That's been tried many times before. It always fails.

WyattEarp

08-11-22, 16:16

Come on, this is just ridiculous. People leave forums for all kinds of reasons. I don't know how thin-skinned one must be to get rid of his account just because he's gotten in q.Last year, I was conversing with a member who wrote some great posts last year about Rio. He had become a target of animosity. He and others joined an infamous member's posse for a ride around town. His crime was that he was underwhelmed with some of the venues on the itinerary and politely posted such.

I think it is quite clear some members don't just recommend certain venues. They become personally and possibly emotionally vested in venues they frequent and recommend.

Where things went very bad was that hostile posts targeting the relative newbie had to be moderated. Then the aggressive member started posting under another handle. I seem to recall some of that was moderated. In the end, the targeted member was receiving intimidating and critical PMs. At that point, he told me he was just going to leave the Board.

Things started to chill down after that and the tone here improved. I believe the moderators started to realize a problem had developed over time. While a member might be on the ground and have very strong opinions, they could not be allowed to try to dominate other members and their perspective.

It's possible this new guy joined ISG in advance of a Rio trip and was going to step back up after returning Stateside. However, deleting your account is a bigger action. It's always possible that this guy returns to the this forum under another handle in another city. I hope so. He made some excellent contributions.