Stupid Shit in Tijuana

[Phordphan]

Someone needs to calm down, and quit slammin'.Hoopin' is more like it.

[JamesKm1984]

And he STILL going! LMAO.

Must be sad to only find fulfillment in life by trying to be the king of a poon board. But it makes sense though why only Tijuana: no way in hell any American ladies would put up with him LMAO.

[ClamSlammer]

And he STILL going! LMAO.

Must be sad to only find fulfillment in life by trying to be the king of a poon board. But it makes sense though why only Tijuana: no way in hell any American ladies would put up with him LMAO.You couldn't instantly figure out HK doesn't pay meseros but you're on here trying to make fun of my status in life? How far could you get in life if you're convinced HK pays 10 x more meseros than they need? Assistant to the fry cook? Can't defend any of those asinine statements you made so you go on personal attacks? Guess what dude, you're on a Tijuana puta forum too!

Saying that HK's survival selling $. 25 beers for $9 is a "miracle" is the dumbest thing said on this board since Scatman claimed only a dozen nations were involved in both World Wars when the actual number was closer to 90. And it threatens Phordphan's classic "HK management watches the exchange right like hawks" when in truth they adjust their rate every 2-3 years LOL.

[JamesKm1984]

You couldn't instantly figure out HK doesn't pay meseros but you're on here trying to make fun of my status in life? How far could you get in life if you're convinced HK pays 10 x more meseros than they need? Assistant to the fry cook? Can't defend any of those asinine statements you made so you go on personal attacks? Guess what dude, you're on a Tijuana puta forum too!

Saying that HK's survival selling $. 25 beers for $9 is a "miracle" is the dumbest thing said on this board since Scatman claimed only a dozen nations were involved in both World Wars when the actual number was closer to 90. And it threatens Phordphan's classic "HK management watches the exchange right like hawks" when in truth they adjust their rate every 2-3 years LOL.I swear, you're just trolling me, right? Like you're purposefully bringing this up to keep this little tit-for-tat going on purpose, right? Because no normal person would keep trying to prove a point that is completely trivial and inconsequential like you have. Like it takes a "special" (read: special ed) person to keep this going and not realizing he's the ONLY person that actually cares about this. LMAO.

[ClamSlammer]

Must be sad to only find fulfillment in life by trying to be the king of a poon board. But it makes sense though why only Tijuana: no way in hell any American ladies would put up with him LMAO.You come onto a Tijuana puta board. For the usual purposes I'd bet, get info, share knowledge, become a respected member. But because of your abbreviated intelligence, you post something so ludicrously laughable that you're instantly ridiculed by SEVERAL board members including myself. Can you can any lower in life? I mean, we're all fucking losers here but fuck, what are you when you get ridiculed by losers?


But it makes sense though why only Tijuana: no way in hell any American ladies would put up with him LMAO.You just described 99% of the members here, yourself included, except that you're too dumb to realize it.


Because no normal person would keep trying to prove a point that is completely trivial and inconsequential like you have. Like it takes a "special" (read: special ed) person to keep this going and not realizing he's the ONLY person that actually cares about this. LMAO.Again, you're describing yourself. I freely admit I'm keeping this trivial discussion going. But you are responding so you are guilty as well. But you're too stupid to realize this.

But I'm not a person without mercy for the unfortunate. And genetics have obviously dealt you a losing hand. In poker terms, you're holding 7 high in all 4 suits. There's no glory in constantly defeating a person who is so obviously far below your own level. It's like a heavyweight squaring off against a featherweight. I'm done with this, I'm content to know that I've proven you wrong, and that your last several posts have consisted exclusively of personal attacks since you cannot defend the idiocy of your original statements, which were universally mocked.

[DramaFree11]

I swear, you're just trolling me, right? Like you're purposefully bringing this up to keep this little tit-for-tat going on purpose, right? Because no normal person would keep trying to prove a point that is completely trivial and inconsequential like you have. Like it takes a "special" (read: special ed) person to keep this going and not realizing he's the ONLY person that actually cares about this. LMAO.Yes, and he will not stop. Make your point and move on. He is wrong most of the time. He also writes very few reports about actual girls, like some other people I know,(Not you).

[Dcrist0527]

This bores me to no end. Clam, with all due respect, proving something as false requires something more than you just saying so. Admittedly, I don't have the self proclaimed 'internet-wide authoritative source' title that you have. So I stand before you in awe of someone with your level of self-importance.


Obvious fabrication. You mean that before this debate, you took enough interest in the topic of a sliding ficha pay scale, that you actually discussed it with a HK manager? You didn't ask him about banging the putas, puta fights, which putas are notorious for what. Instead you asked him a sliding ficha pay scale? Yeah sure, ok, of course you did LOL!So, this may be foreign to you. But we actually met somewhat naturally. Unlike others, my life does not revolve around a Mexican strip club. I was with a couple friends at a bar. So we met through mutual friends. But shame on me for not drilling this "source" for important topics such as puta fights. Someday, I aspire to have your laser focus to all things HK.


You see, if a quota existed, it MUST be calculated DAILY. Because putas can cash their fichas in DAILY. Now after I reminded you that some putas wait to cash in their fichas, you fabricated the tale of the "weekly calculation. " Well, if it is calculated "weekly" then how is the pay rate calculated for putas that cash in daily?*I am honored to introduce such a successful businessman such as yourself to a concept called record keeping. HK has these things called pen and paper. You might even see an organizing mechanism called a clipboard. Most of the robe guys use them. Now, sit down because I'm going to blow your mind. They also have computers. To help you out, envision a typewriter connected to a TV set. They allow businesses to keep track of things beyond daily tallies. Well, assuming they have the brain power to comprehend such complexities.

Bottom line, go back and read your own commentary and tell me what you've "proven". And the funny part of it all is none of it matters. You take this stuff personally, maybe to defend your title as all-knowing HK guru. Trust me man, I'm not challenging you. But none of what I said is anything less than 100% true. Believe it or not.

[Phordphan]

I swear, you're just trolling me, right? Like you're purposefully bringing this up to keep this little tit-for-tat going on purpose, right? Because no normal person would keep trying to prove a point that is completely trivial and inconsequential like you have. Like it takes a "special" (read: special ed) person to keep this going and not realizing he's the ONLY person that actually cares about this. LMAO.You've run headlong into this board's gadfly. I made an offhand comment years ago and the ******* is still harping on it. You're right, it's really weird. I guess it takes all kinds. But that's what the "ignore" button is for.

[JamesKm1984]

You've run headlong into this board's gadfly. I made an offhand comment years ago and the ******* is still harping on it. You're right, it's really weird. I guess it takes all kinds. But that's what the "ignore" button is for."Gadfly" LOL. He's like a non-humorous Sheldon Cooper. Except he's not a genius and his knowledge is of something super trivial.


Yes, and he will not stop. Make your point and move on. He is wrong most of the time. He also writes very few reports about actual girls, like some other people I know,(Not you).I admit, I don't have much info to share. I moved to the East Coast shortly after my escapades in Tijuana and so going to Tijuana regularly is rather difficult. But with COVID giving me cabin fever, felt like a great time to go. Plus, I go to Asia every year so I get my poon binge over there.

Having said that, there's definitely a difference between useful information that guys like you (I'm intrigued by your MTY info) and Cap give out versus the trivial crap that Clammy gives out. I don't know, just seems sad that he's putting in so much effort to prove a point that I merely was just postulating and spitballing ideas and he goes off like an anti-vaxxx mom. Also, you ever notice that he says he has indisputable evidence, but really it's just his word? LOL.

Some people feel the need to be THAT GUY that is in every strip club: Knows all the names, know the names of the managers, knows the names of the bouncers, knows which girls are working which shift, probably knows their real names, but that's just it. Just knows the names. In the end, he's just some old creepy guy that hangs out strip clubs too long, hoping that his trivial knowledge will get him a discount or a freebie or some sort of recognition. But in the end, he's just THAT GUY.

[ClamSlammer]

This thread is quickly becoming a reunion for those members I previously called out and stone cold busted for their obvious bullshit. Dramafree I humiliated him real good a couple years ago. Looks like he hasn't forgotten about it LOL. A known troll on the Kiev and Monterrey forums. You guys can say what you want, but no one has ever pointed out a post that I wrote that was wrong. And I don't pretend I know everything about the Zona. My areas of expertise are HK and life in Tijuana outside the Zona. I don't go on the Escorts or Streetwalkers subforums and try to correct anyone because I honestly don't know a whole lot about those topics. But HK I do, and I'll call you out if you lie or post nonsense. Some have a problem with it, but I help keep this board clean of bullshit.

[DramaFree11]

"Gadfly" LOL. He's like a non-humorous Sheldon Cooper. Except he's not a genius and his knowledge is of something super trivial.

I admit, I don't have much info to share. I moved to the East Coast shortly after my escapades in Tijuana and so going to Tijuana regularly is rather difficult. But with COVID giving me cabin fever, felt like a great time to go. Plus, I go to Asia every year so I get my poon binge over there.

Having said that, there's definitely a difference between useful information that guys like you (I'm intrigued by your MTY info) and Cap give out versus the trivial crap that Clammy gives out. I don't know, just seems sad that he's putting in so much effort to prove a point that I merely was just postulating and spitballing ideas and he goes off like an anti-vaxxx mom. Also, you ever notice that he says he has indisputable evidence, but really it's just his word? LOL.

Some people feel the need to be THAT GUY that is in every strip club: Knows all the names, know the names of the managers, knows the names of the bouncers, knows which girls are working which shift, probably knows their real names, but that's just it. Just knows the names. In the end, he's just some old creepy guy that hangs out strip clubs too long, hoping that his trivial knowledge will get him a discount or a freebie or some sort of recognition. But in the end, he's just THAT GUY.Yep, you are correct. I have the same issue with 3 other guys on another page, they are way worse. They Blantly lie, leave out major details and exaggerate.

MTY is great, but more of a long term investment. Long flight for you. If you are interested in long term destination then yes, short term, Tijuana or Germany. I strictly use SA here now and that takes a little time. I am not sure about the Spas, I have never been and strip bars are not that good.

[Member #4722]

Dude you are a fucking clown. Keep talking shit and I will keep dragging you. Show me one lie I have ever written on this site?

[DramaFree11]

Dude you are a fucking clown. Keep talking shit and I will keep dragging you. Show me one lie I have ever written on this site?Yes, you are one of them, you let your buddies do it, that is just as bad. Love the name calling, proves my point. Write a report about an actual girl. I probably write 30 to one of yours. I will not go to your level.

[ClamSlammer]

Dcrist, I don't have a problem with you generally. I just have a problem when you make up obvious lies, then when I expose them, you lie some more to try and cover up your previous lies. When you get busted, just admit your mistake and move on. Don't make up outrageous lies like you confirmed with HK's manager because that makes no sense at all. You see, if you had actually confirmed with HK management, you would have stated this from the beginning, because it is of paramount significance. But instead you don't mention it until days later after your argument has already unraveled.


HK has these things called pen and paper. You might even see an organizing mechanism called a clipboard. Most of the robe guys use them. Now, sit down because I'm going to blow your mind. They also have computers. To help you out, envision a typewriter connected to a TV set. They allow businesses to keep track of things beyond daily tallies.That is true, they keep track of the ins and outs of the putas. But that doesn't mean they keep track for the purpose of calculating a sliding ficha quota.


Bottom line, go back and read your own commentary and tell me what you've "proven".I've proven the quota cannot exist, well at least not without a time machine. Imagine this scenario: A brand new puta starts at HK and on her first shift she earns 20 fichas. At the end of her shift, she cashes in her fichas like many putas do. She gets $680 mx because fichas are a flat $34 mx / each. But you insist that the quota is "calculated weekly. " Then how is the payout rate determined without a time machine? According to you, it can't be determined because a full week hasn't passed yet. According to you, putas cannot cash out after every shift. But they do. It's as simple as that. You have been proven wrong.

[Captain Solo]

Don't underestimate HK's computer resources. They probably employ a few IT guys to manage the computer resources, network and enough book keepers and accountants to keep their finance straight. HK even has pictures of banned guys and persona non grata on the network.

I used to see girls turn in fichas for cash at the bar at night's end, but have not seen that practice for 7 or 8 years. Keeping track of the chicas' fichas is a very simple task. HK can easily set up an account for each girl with credits and debits. They can log in fichas whenever the girls turn them in, disburse cash at any time against the accounts, then figure out the values of fichas on a sliding scale and how much each girl is owed at the end of the month. So far I heard no complaints from the girls and think HK's management has been fair, straight and honest with them.

Some tight-assed CPAs in this forum may be able to explain this dedicated Putas Accounting System better than I can.

[ScatManDoo]

For lots of businesses, involving commission sales, it is common for paying out individual commissions as you go (like daily or weekly) while handing out the incentive bonuses (like reaching 50, then 100, then 150 sales) on a less regular fashion, like month or quarterly) for the special, incentive payouts.

No proof is no proof.

[ClamSlammer]

I don't give a fuck how many computers or IT staff HK employs. There's no way a ficha is worth anything but $34 mx, whether you go arriba a thousand times or never. This is Mexico, and this is a cash business. Management doesn't pay out on demand, then later figure out a sliding scale and whether or not money is owed. There would be way too many disputes if that was the case. And besides, you really think management is dumb enough to extend credit to alcoholic drug addicted putas? Because if they cashed out on demand, then at the end of the week the pay scale was calculated, half the putas would owe money.

And putas can cash out whenever they want. Daily or after several months. Doesn't matter. If putas can't cash out daily, and had to wait until the end of the week when the pay scale was calculated, you would literally see a line of 1000 putas waiting at the bar to cash in their fichas. Anybody ever see a line of 1000 putas? I didn't think so.

So there's been ONE report of a puta who claimed there was a sliding pay scale? A puta that happened to be a top ficha earner? Well, guess what? People lie and exaggerate about their income. It's one of the most common lies told. Putas are people too and lie about their income sometimes. Don't be so fucking gullible!

I'm with one of my regulars, a very well known top earning former HK chica. Matter of fact she's sleeping right next to me as I write this post. Earlier tonight I asked her what I already knew. She said fichas were $34 mx and that amount never changed. You know what else she told me? She told me she was often too drunk or impatient to cash in her fichas so she would give them to her BFF to cash in. If there was a sliding scale, then that would never happen.

Attached are pics of fichas from Amnesia, Chicago, Tropical and HK. The last pic is of fichas accumulated over several days or even weeks. HK managers don't give a fuck when they cash in because there's no variable pay rate to figure out. Matter of fact, they prefer that putas wait as long as possible, because I'd bet there's a pretty constant rate of fichas that are lost and never cashed in.

*I keep getting error messages when trying to upload pics. Edge, Chrome and Samsung browser all fail to upload the pics.

[Captain Solo]

HK's employs a few good IT guys.

Their software automatically detects liars and blocks them from uploading pics hehe.

[JamesKm1984]

Dude, you need to get a hobby or something. Are you still going on about this?

I have a genuine question though: Why are you trying to so hard to prove a point for something that is inconsequential? Like even if you're right, it doesn't help us as pooners. Even if you're wrong, it doesn't help us as pooners. You're tone of desperation to be right for something so trivial oozes through the interwebs right now and it's quite pitiful.

[Dcrist0527]

Dude, you need to get a hobby or something. Are you still going on about this?

I have a genuine question though: Why are you trying to so hard to prove a point for something that is inconsequential? Like even if you're right, it doesn't help us as pooners. Even if you're wrong, it doesn't help us as pooners. You're tone of desperation to be right for something so trivial oozes through the interwebs right now and it's quite pitiful.What's even more pathetic is his inability to realize he's proven nothing. Yes, of course they can cash in daily. But apparently HK is incapable of tracking that? LMAO That is his proof.

Funnier is his pillow talk with his HK dream girl. Maybe he's so in love that he forgot the meseros write the chicas name on the ticket. I'm sure that's for no reason either, right? And for the record, yes, their BFFs can cash them in. I've seen that myself.

His proof that I'm lying? Because I did not disclose a friend list prior to engaging with the internet's undisputed authoritative customer of millenium of HK. For the record, and just in case it's ever deemed relevant by Clam, where do I disclose the customer list from my paper route as a 10 year old?

What a joke. As you said James, who really cares. This is pointless drivel. I cannot provide CPA records or an employee handbook. I share what little I do know only for the limited value it is worth. And I will say I only share information here that I know to be true. I would never post anything here as fact just because I heard a chica say it. But I've said my peace. People can believe me or not. I don't have the need for validation and blind acceptance like our dear friend Clam.

[ScatManDoo]

What's even more pathetic is his inability to realize he's proven nothing. Yes, of course they can cash in daily. But apparently HK is incapable of tracking that? LMAO That is his proof.

Funnier is his pillow talk with his HK dream girl. Maybe he's so in love that he forgot the meseros write the chicas name on the ticket. I'm sure that's for no reason either, right? And for the record, yes, their BFFs can cash them in. I've seen that myself.

His proof that I'm lying? Because I did not disclose a friend list prior to engaging with the internet's undisputed authoritative customer of millenium of HK.Isn't that an award that HK hands out annually?

I've seen them present it earlier this year, up on the Piso Sur stage.

They hand it to the recipient as they jam a big black dildo up his ass.

Was that you Clamslammer, at the last award they handed out in February?

[ClamSlammer]

James should just concentrate on figuring out the decades old mystery of how HK pays all those meseros LMAO! And how it's a "miracle" that HK "survives" selling beers at the paltry return of 3500%! My goodness, the idiocy is just off the scale here. And Scatman should start by learning how to count past 12. His claim that "less than a dozen countries were involved in both World Wars" accurately reflects his intelligence and level of education. I can name 12 countries just in Europe off the top of my head. Most of Asia was involved, along with North Africa, central America, Australia, and the entire North American continent. The true count was around 80 or 90. But Scatman proclaims "less than a dozen" LOL!


What's even more pathetic is his inability to realize he's proven nothing.What is more pathetic is you lying and saying you confirmed everything with a HK manager LMAO! You didn't. I guarantee that 100%. Because if you did, you would have mentioned it from the start. And before this debate, a ficha pay scale was of little interest to you. No way you would have brought it up in your fantasy meeting. And even if you did, because it interested you so much, you would have listened intently absorbing every detail. So what details have you provided here? NONE!

You see, I have a history of exposing lies. I'm very good at noticing details that don't add up. Some of you will remember the "Christmas Miracles" thread on TJA. Was an epic thread that lasted 4 or 5 years. And you know who singlehandedly destroyed it? Me. While all the other suckers were waiting in suspense for the next installment by the OP, I read right through that bullshit, posted the inconsistencies, and the OP was never heard from again.


he forgot the meseros write the chicas name on the ticket. I'm sure that's for no reason either, right? And for the record, yes, their BFFs can cash them in. I've seen that myself.My you're just without a clue, aren't you? Do you know why meseros write the chica's name? You think it's for the bartenders to tally a log? LOL. The chica's name is written for one purpose only-to deter the theft of fichas by other putas. You ever watch a bartender cash in fichas? I have. Bartenders don't look at the name at all. A puta can have 200 fichas, written by 100 different meseros with varying skills in penmanship. Half the time you can't even read the name. They just count and pay. And they likely note how many each chica cashes in. If a puta cashes in a BFF's fichas, the bartender isn't even aware.


His proof that I'm lying?Because I've destroyed every point you've made so far. Look above for the latest example.


And I will say I only share information here that I know to be true. I would never post anything here as fact just because I heard a chica say it.You lied about meeting with the manager and now you say everything you've written is true? Listen, there's an easy way to figure out who's lying. Me, a 12 year ZN vet who's been providing reliable intel for over a decade? Or Dcrist who claims he asked HK's manager about the sliding ficha scale, yet cannot provide any details. He claims that HK extends credit to alcoholic meth addicted putas. That at the end of every week 1000 putas line up at the bar to settle their ficha tabs. LOL. Every monger go visit wherever it is the HK chicas are working now. And ask them how much the HK payout was for a ficha. They'll say $34. They won't say "depende cuantos arribas. " The liar will be exposed.

[DramaFree11]

Because I've destroyed every point you've made so far. Look above for the and I will say I only share information here that I know to be true. I would never post anything here as fact just because I heard a chica say it.

You lied about meeting with the manager and now you say everything you've written is true? Listen, there's an easy way to figure out who's lying. Me, a 12 year ZN vet who's been providing reliable intel for over a decade? Or Dcrist who claims he asked HK's manager about the sliding ficha scale, yet cannot provide any details. He claims that HK extends credit to alcoholic meth addicted putas. That at the end of every week 1000 putas line up at the bar to settle their ficha tabs. LOL. Every monger go visit wherever it is the HK chicas are working now. And ask them how much the HK payout was for a ficha. They'll say $34. They won't say "depende cuantos arribas. " The liar will be exposed.

Give it a break. Like most of your reports, you are just flat out wrong. Write a report about a actual girl, (just one time, it is just not that hard), this is ridiculous.

[JamesKm1984]

LMAO Still going at it. Still trying to prove a point for something that is pointless. I like how you're trying to put a humorous tone in your comments now since it's become obvious that you're the joke here for taking something so trivial so seriously LOL.

You do realize that nobody here actually is taking this seriously, but we're just trying to see how long you keep trying to prove something, right? You're the only person that genuinely takes this to heart. And did you really need to obviously lie to us with the whole "I'm typing this while my HK girl is sleeping next to me" and "the pics aren't uploading" facade? You do realize that no one believes you, right? This reminds me of something a middle schooler would do to try to prove a point LMAO.

As I asked before, what are you trying to actually achieve? Like NOBODY here cares about this. It literally just started out with a little comment here and a comment there and a postulate here and a theory there, and all of a sudden it's like you're on a mission to prove something. If you haven't managed to figure it out in your definitely-on-the-spectrum head, the more you talk, the more your shit is becoming obvious LMAO.

PS: No problems uploading pics on Chrome LMAO

[DramaFree11]

LMAO Still going at it. Still trying to prove a point for something that is pointless. I like how you're trying to put a humorous tone in your comments now since it's become obvious that you're the joke here for taking something so trivial so seriously LOL.

You do realize that nobody here actually is taking this seriously, but we're just trying to see how long you keep trying to prove something, right? You're the only person that genuinely takes this to heart. And did you really need to obviously lie to us with the whole "I'm typing this while my HK girl is sleeping next to me" and "the pics aren't uploading" facade? You do realize that no one believes you, right? This reminds me of something a middle schooler would do to try to prove a point LMAO.

As I asked before, what are you trying to actually achieve? Like NOBODY here cares about this. It literally just started out with a little comment here and a comment there and a postulate here and a theory there, and all of a sudden it's like you're on a mission to prove something. If you haven't managed to figure it out in your definitely-on-the-spectrum head, the more you talk, the more your shit is becoming obvious LMAO.

PS: No problems uploading pics on Chrome LMAOYou are correct nobody cares, I think he probably just trying to get under guys skins. His reports are actually better now, they use to be way worse. Not sure how he never gets suspended.

[Captain Solo]

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/no-meat-no-milk-no-090018654.html

No Meat, No Milk, No Bread: Hunger Crisis Rocks Latin America.

James Attwood, Valentina Fuentes, Jonathan Gilbert and Michael McDonald.

Mon, September 28,2020, 2:00 AM PDT.

(Bloomberg) -- he couldn't feed his family. Matilde Alonso knew it was true but couldn't believe it. The pandemic had just hit Guatemala in full force and Alonso, a 34-year-old construction worker, was suddenly jobless.

He sat up all alone till late that night, his mind racing, and fought back tears. He had six mouths to feed, no income and no hope of receiving anything beyond the most meager of crisis-support checks -- some $130 -- from the cash-strapped government. Today, Alonso said, breakfast, lunch and dinner all look about the same in his house in El Jocotillo: maybe a tortilla with salt; maybe a tortilla with beans; maybe a bowl of rice and beans. "We used to eat meat. Now, there's no meat. We used to eat chicken. Now, there's no chicken. We used to drink milk. Now, there's no milk. " Even bread, he said, is off the menu. For tens of millions like Alonso, the pandemic has exposed just how fragile economic status is worldwide. In many ways, nowhere has that been more apparent than in Latin America, where a resurgence of poverty is bringing a vicious wave of hunger in a region that was supposed to have mostly eradicated that kind of malnutrition decades ago. From Buenos Aires to Mexico City, families are skipping on meals and swapping fresh produce for starchy and sugary items. Even in Chile, a developing-world success story, some neighborhoods are turning to community cook-ups in a throwback to the dictatorship era of the 1980's.

Latin America stands out because most of the region's governments don't have the financial might to deliver the huge amounts of aid that's been seen in places like the USA And Europe. Then there are the millions of workers who labor in the informal economy, selling mangos from a street cart or cleaning homes for cash, who are often locked out of assistance programs. The United Nations' World Food Programme estimates that the Latin American and Caribbean nations in which it operates will see a surge of roughly 270% in the number of people facing severe food insecurity over the coming months. That rise -- to 16 million from 4. 3 million before the pandemic -- is likely to be the steepest in the world and more than twice the estimated global growth rate, Norha Restrepo, a WFP spokesperson in Panama, said by telephone.

Growing the region's middle class has come in fits and starts. A boom in commodity prices from 2000 to 2014 sparked a decrease in the poverty rate from 27% to 12%. But as demand for raw materials cooled, there was a swift reversal. Argentina sank into deep recession, and the economic situation in Venezuela took an unprecedented dive into despair. Meanwhile, even the earlier period of growth was hiding deep fault lines in the region, where economic inequality, racial tensions and police brutality brewed just beneath the surface. Those pressures boiled over into mass protests last year, with hundreds of thousands taking to the streets in Colombia, Chile and Ecuador.

The pandemic has made economic stability even more precarious, with millions now making the unthinkable move from relatively comfortable lives to not knowing where their next meal is coming from.

"The difference between being poor and going poor is brutal," said Jose Aguilar, founder of Reactivemos La Esperanza, which supports 100 families in Costa Rica and is trying to reach more people. "When you're middle class and you have food, access to education and are accustomed to a certain quality of life and all of a sudden it's taken away from you through no fault of your own, that hits families really hard."

The region is on track for its worst recession in a century with a 9. 1% contraction forecast for this year and unemployment set to reach 13.5%, according to the Economic Commission for Latin America and the Caribbean, or Eclac. With half the working population living outside of formal economies, job numbers don't tell the whole story. Regionally, Eclac expects an additional 28 million to enter the ranks of extreme poverty this year, with women overrepresented in poor households.

"This economic and health crisis is just starting, and it'll result in the largest number of people living in food scarcity in recent times," said Maria Teresa Garcia, who heads Bancos de Alimentos de Mexico, a food charity. "This crisis is going to leave a mark for a long, long time."

Other parts of the world are also seeing the reversal. The World Bank in June warned that the pandemic could undo years of progress for the poor in less-developed nations such as India and Nigeria, with as many as 100 million more people expected to fall into extreme poverty. With that, there will be a massive spike in food inequality. As many as 132 million more people than previously projected could go hungry in 2020, and this year's increase may be more than triple any this century, according to UN estimates. Latin America is helping to lead that surge.

In Chile, Sonia Gallardo has gone from eating dinners of chicken and rice to washing down bread and butter with coffee. Sometimes it's only coffee. She immigrated from Peru 12 years ago for a better life in Chile, leaving behind an old two-room adobe house in Chiclayo that had been passed down to her mother. Working as a housekeeper in Santiago, she used to make $600 a month, enough to start saving for a home of her own. But strict lockdowns ended that job, and now she's lucky to make $80 a month reselling cleaning products in the city's bustling markets. There's barely enough for groceries. She's suddenly dropped 10 pounds and is adding elastic to her pants to keep them from falling down.

"I never thought this was going to happen. I thought that I would never have to live like I lived in Peru again," Gallardo said.

Like most of the world, the hunger gripping Latin America has nothing to do with insufficient supply. In fact, the region is an agricultural powerhouse, with its fertile plains and valleys producing grains, fruits and proteins that help feed the world. The crisis is about whether those thrown out of work during the pandemic can afford to eat.

For the most part, aid from governments is far outstripped by the need, even if some countries decided to implement aggressive stimulus packages. Brazil, for example, has started an emergency cash stipends program so ambitious that it temporarily helped bring down extreme poverty readings to national historic lows. But that massive program is expiring at the end of the year and is too fiscally expensive to sustain further. In most countries, payments are limited and people spend any cash they get to first pay for housing and utility costs. There's often little left over for food.

In Argentina, Miguel Leiva pulled himself out of the unemployment and drugs of a Buenos Aires slum, and he now supports his wife and two children as a bus driver and is training to be a primary-school teacher. The country's 41% inflation is eating into his $525 a month salary, and strict lockdowns mean he can no longer work extra hours. He's behind on credit-card and utility payments and weekly barbecues of Argentina's famed short ribs are now "a luxury we can't afford. " The family has also cut back on fruit and vegetables. Chocolate biscuits, loaded with sugar, have replaced expensive yogurts, while the family's intake of flour for homemade pasta has jumped by as much as tenfold.

"It's the same for everyone," Leiva, 45, said. "We may eat OK for two weeks, but then it's a case of surviving until the end of the month and the next paycheck. ".

An undernourished population typically means more costly visits to doctors and hospitals, a less productive workforce and more school absenteeism. Most concerning to the UN are the implications for development of young children. Food insecurity also risks exacerbating unrest after the wave of protests in 2019.

In such a diverse region, the economic impact from the pandemic is uneven. Poorer countries like Haiti and parts of Central America that rely on remittances are particularly vulnerable. As are the millions of Venezuelan migrants in Colombia, Ecuador and Peru who depend on informal work and lack access to social programs. Tens of thousands of them are returning home, bringing more mouths to feed in Venezuela, which was already on the brink of famine.

Even in more developed countries such as Chile, some communities are having to band together to ensure people are fed.

In the Santiago neighborhood of Lo Hermida—known for its participation in social struggles especially during the military dictatorship of the 1970's and 1980's—Erika Martinez is organizing "common pots," or community cook-ups, that have fed about 300 people a day since May.

The food is mostly noodles and legumes. Local butchers or grocers sometimes kick in leftovers, and chicken is a rare treat. The cooking is done with firewood because there's no money for gas. The clientele is mainly informal workers such as part-time tradesmen, gardeners or seamstresses who've been hit the hardest by pandemic lockdowns.

"For us in Lo Hermida, the common pots represent a sad memory of the 80's," said 53-year-old Martinez. "I never thought we would have to go back to that. ".

Back in Guatemala, the government has already reported an increase in the rate of acute malnutrition among children aged 5 and under. Alonso, the construction worker, is so worried about how to keep his four kids fed that he's started planting corn and beans. A friend leased him a small plot of land. Another gave him some seeds and fertilizer and told him he can have until the end of the year to pay back the cost, he said. "It's what I've been doing all pandemic long — improvising as best I can. ".

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[Captain Solo]

Someboby must have had a threesome with Hope Hicks on the Presidential plane on the way to Ohio and back. Now he will need the biggest ventilator in the world for all the huffing and puffing he always does.

Joe Biden would probably be very happy to personally sign documents to close out someone's Social Security account and stop all payments, after someone's big funeral.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/01/politics/hope-hicks-positive-coronavirus/index.html

President Trump will be taken to Walter Reed hospital and stay for several days, White House says.

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The diagnosis amounts to the most serious known health threat to a sitting American president in decades. At 74 years old and obese, Trump falls into the highest risk category for serious complications from the disease, which has killed more than 200,000 Americans and more than 1 million people worldwide.

His infection with the disease could prove destabilizing in an already fraught political climate, and stock market futures tumbled on news of Trump's infection.

"Tonight, at FLOTUS and I tested positive for COVID-19. We will begin our quarantine and recovery process immediately. We will get through this TOGETHER!" Trump tweeted shortly before 1 am Friday.

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Later, the first lady wrote on Twitter that she and her husband were "feeling good. ".

Trump was last seen in public on Thursday afternoon, returning to the White House after a fundraising trip to New Jersey. He did not appear ill, though he did not speak to reporters as he walked into his residence.

In a memo issued to reporters around 1 am ET, the President's physician, Navy Cmdr. Dr. Sean Conley, wrote that he received confirmation of the positive tests on Thursday evening.

"The President and First Lady are both well at this time, and they plan to remain at home within the White House during their convalescence," Conley wrote.

"The White House medical team and I will maintain a vigilant watch, and I appreciate the support provided by some of our country's greatest medical professionals and institutions," Conley wrote, without elaborating what assistance was being provided to the White House.

"Rest assured I expect the President to continue carrying out his duties without disruption while recovering, and I will keep you updated on any further developments," he wrote.

READ: Trump's doctor releases statement after the President and first lady test positive for Covid-19.

The President had said late Thursday night that he planned to quarantine after one of his closest aides, Hope Hicks, tested positive for the infection, bringing the disease into his innermost circle. Earlier in the night, he had downplayed the virus' continued spread.

"The end of the pandemic is in sight," he said during prerecorded remarks at the annual Al Smith dinner, held virtually because of the health crisis.

Ignoring the science.

While the White House frequently touts its extensive testing regimen for the President and those who come into close proximity with him -- aides have deemed him the "most tested man in the country" -- the infections underscored the shortcomings in relying on tests alone to prevent contagion.

Trump and many of his aides have eschewed practices like social distancing and mask wearing. At Tuesday evening's presidential debate, the President mocked his rival, Democratic nominee Joe Biden, for frequently wearing a mask.

After announcing the President's diagnosis, the White House issued a new schedule to reflect several canceled events on Friday, including a fundraiser in Washington and a campaign rally in Florida.

The scrubbed plans were the most immediate effects of the President's diagnosis on the presidential campaign, which has centered largely on the pandemic and the President's response to it. Trump has frequently sought to paint a rosy picture of the current situation, including just hours before he announced his diagnosis.

Trump has also repeatedly insisted the country is "rounding the corner" on the disease and claimed the virus would "disappear," though even health experts within his own administration said those claims did not reflect reality.

Getting infected himself with coronavirus will do little to further his claims that the disease is waning, and undercut his push for states to reopen schools and businesses. Trump has complained during recent rallies about Democratic governors who have maintained strict lockdowns to prevent the spread of the virus.

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Trump has blatantly disregarded medical recommendations from his own coronavirus task force during the pandemic, proceeding with a busy schedule of packed campaign rallies. Most recently, his supporters stuffed into events in Minnesota and Pennsylvania.

Those events appear on hold for now as the President stays at the White House. Long guarded about his medical history, the President's most recent physical showed he weighed 243 pounds -- considered obese for his height. Still, Conley said he was in "very good health" in a readout of the exam.

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President Donald Trump walks off Marine One as Hope Hicks is seen through the window as he returns to the White House following a trip to the west coast, on September 14,2020 in Washington, DC. Photo by Kevin Dietsch / Pool /ABACAPRESS.COM.

Aside from Hicks, several of the President's aides have tested positive for the coronavirus since the pandemic began ravaging the country earlier this year. In May, two White House staffers, including a member of the Navy who serves as one of Trump's personal valets, tested positive for the virus, and in July a cafeteria employee on the White House grounds tested positive as well. The vice president's press secretary has tested positive, as did the President's national security adviser Robert O'Brien. The President confirmed a fourth positive case on White House grounds last month.

Trump has previously expressed concern that aides contracting the coronavirus would undercut his message that the outbreak is waning and states should accelerate reopening, according to a person who had spoken with him.

And he asked in the spring how it was possible that one of his valets -- responsible for handling his food and drink -- could have come into contact with him.

The White House has since gone to great lengths to shield Trump and Vice President Mike Pence from the outbreak, even as they travel to states where cases are surging.

Close aide tests positive.

Hicks has traveled with the President multiple times recently, including to the debate in Cleveland on Tuesday, and was seen boarding Marine One, along with several other of the President's closest aides -- Jared Kushner, Dan Scavino and Nicholas Luna -- none of whom wore masks, on Wednesday as Trump was heading to a campaign rally in Minnesota.

The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention guidelines state that a 14-day quarantine should take place after the last known exposure to someone who has tested positive for Covid-19. This is because the incubation period for the novel coronavirus can be up to two weeks.

Trump, in his Fox News interview, speculated that Hicks could have contracted the virus from an interaction with a supporter.

"She's a very warm person. She has a hard time, when soldiers and law enforcement comes up to her, you know, she wants to treat them great, not say, 'Stay away, I can't get near you. ' It's a very, very tough disease," he said.

A source close to Hicks told CNN that she is experiencing symptoms and is back in Washington. A source familiar with Hicks' symptoms describes her as being achy and feeling pretty bad. CNN has reached out to Hicks for comment.

"The President takes the health and safety of himself and everyone who works in support of him and the American people very seriously," White House spokesman Judd Deere told CNN in a statement when asked about the level of contact between Hicks and Trump.

The White House made no mention of Hicks by name, nor did it confirm she had tested positive.

"White House Operations collaborates with the Physician to the President and the White House Military Office to ensure all plans and procedures incorporate current CDC guidance and best practices for limiting COVID-19 exposure to the greatest extent possible both on complex and when the President is traveling," Deere added.

Some White House staffers who were in close proximity were notified of the positive test result today, one official said.

This story has been updated with further developments Friday morning.

CNN's Paul LeBlanc contributed to this report.

[Ctytek]

I had a "normal" girl talk to me for 10 seconds once, then beg me for a dollar, within 20 seconds I was getting attacked on street by her crew.Of course you were. Every thing you do involves some drama or a nonsense story. Just lock yourself in a basement and never leave.

[Dogers69]

Of course you were. Every thing you do involves some drama or a nonsense story. Just lock yourself in a basement and never leave.My hospital bill was a 120k from that "nonsense" attack. Yeah, let's pretend Tijuana has no violence it's only most violent city in the world for the hell of it.

[ClamSlammer]

My hospital bill was a 120k from that "nonsense" attack. Yeah, let's pretend Tijuana has no violence it's only most violent city in the world for the hell of it.Yeah, OK, just like the time you reported you personally witnessed Tijuana trillionaires forcing people to list, sell, close and collect on their million dollar homes and turn over the proceeds within 7 days. LOL.

[Ctytek]

My hospital bill was a 120k from that "nonsense" attack. Yeah, let's pretend Tijuana has no violence it's only most violent city in the world for the hell of it.No one is "pretending Tijuana has no violence". However, even assuming you endless "stories" are even partially true. It's remarkable that the violence affects you in such disproportionate way. There are of course people who are simply clueless and don't know how to conduct themselves in public. You may be one of those people. In that case, you should really follow the advice I have you.

[Dcrist0527]

My hospital bill was a 120k from that "nonsense" attack. Yeah, let's pretend Tijuana has no violence it's only most violent city in the world for the hell of it.It's at least amusing. I used to get angry with these outlandish stories. No more. I'm not a fan of fiction but I'm learning.

I've asked you this before countless times. And never heard an answer. If you go to Tijuana and even half of your stories are true, why do you return? Virtually every one of your "encounters" is filled with drama. 95% are horrible outcomes. Yet you keep coming back? That's why I read it as fiction. Because if even a quarter of what you say is true, and you keep returning? Man, you need help if it's true.

[DramaFree11]

It's at least amusing. I used to get angry with these outlandish stories. No more. I'm not a fan of fiction but I'm learning.

I've asked you this before countless times. And never heard an answer. If you go to Tijuana and even half of your stories are true, why do you return? Virtually every one of your "encounters" is filled with drama. 95% are horrible outcomes. Yet you keep coming back? That's why I read it as fiction. Because if even a quarter of what you say is true, and you keep returning? Man, you need help if it's true.I lived in Tijuana and have been to HK at least 100 times. I have never seen this. I did see a drug dealer hit guy that is it. The cops are bad, but I have just not witnessed violence. I am also not claiming that Tijuana is safe, but I have never seen it. I do walk around at night, I am trying not to do this, but never any issue m.

I feel way safer in Tijuana then, when I lived in Houston.

[Dogers69]

It's at least amusing. I used to get angry with these outlandish stories. No more. I'm not a fan of fiction but I'm learning.

I've asked you this before countless times. And never heard an answer. If you go to Tijuana and even half of your stories are true, why do you return? Virtually every one of your "encounters" is filled with drama. 95% are horrible outcomes. Yet you keep coming back? That's why I read it as fiction. Because if even a quarter of what you say is true, and you keep returning? Man, you need help if it's true.I return to Tijuana because I like Mexican people, I'm poor, and it's a adrenaline rush, and the hotels beers and woman. I suppose if I made 90k Tijuana would lose its appeal. I wouldn't mind 6 dollar beers in San Diego, and my dating life at 90 k would be good enough to keep me out of Mexico.

[Dcrist0527]

You are sadly mistaken. Like I said before, you never got a 2-for-1 beer at Tropical. When 1 beer costs $2, and 2 beers cost $4, it is not 2-for-1. It is 2-for-2. Pre-covid, on the wall, just to the right of the main bar, there was a menu posted. It listed the prices of all the drinks. Domestic beers were listed as $2. I often ordered 1 beer for $2. Other times the meseros would insist I order 2 beers for $4, which is a scam. I would send the mesero away and find another, or order at the bar. Now the beers are $3 and the menu is not posted anymore.Clam, you are entitled to your opinions and your curious stories. I even grant you your self-imposed title of strip club genius. But you aren't entitled to change history. Not only did I receive 2 for 1, but it surprised the hell out of me. The first time I walked in there, I had no clue about any 2 for 1 special. I walked in and the first mesero gave me the universal "beer?" hand gesture. I said Tecate and walked to a bar stool and sat down. He brought 2 over to me. I said no, just 1. He said 2 for 1 special. I gave him $3 and that was that. I remember it well because I didn't even finish that 2nd beer because I didn't enjoy the vibe.

You can believe me or not, as usual, I do not put value in that. I cannot speak to current prices. And I can only say my experience was probably 18 months ago.

[ClamSlammer]

Clam, you are entitled to your opinions and your curious stories. I even grant you your self-imposed title of strip club genius. But you aren't entitled to change history. Not only did I receive 2 for 1, but it surprised the hell out of me. The first time I walked in there, I had no clue about any 2 for 1 special. I walked in and the first mesero gave me the universal "beer?" hand gesture. I said Tecate and walked to a bar stool and sat down. He brought 2 over to me. I said no, just 1. He said 2 for 1 special. I gave him $3 and that was that. I remember it well because I didn't even finish that 2nd beer because I didn't enjoy the vibe.

You can believe me or not, as usual, I do not put value in that. I cannot speak to current prices. And I can only say my experience was probably 18 months ago.Dcrist,

You will excuse me if I don't believe a word you say. After you made up that ridiculous story about confirming with HK's manager that a ficha quota exists, you've blown any credibility that you may have had. You are morphing into Doger's protégé, posting wild delusions that no mentally sound monger could entertain as even remotely possible. Tropical's pre-covid beer price was $2. Nobody got two beers for $2. Everyone got 2 beers for $4, believing it was 2-for-1 when in fact it was 2-for-2. Playboy and D&G pulled the same bullshit. But it was still a good deal at $2 each so nobody complained.

[Jinxx]

I thought this was funny. This report says in Tecate the city next to Tijuana, the mayor has locked herself up in the city hall building to keep from being arrested by federal authorities who have a federal warrant for her arrest. Apparently the arrest warrant is for non-payment of some debt to a gasoline supplier.

In other news Tijuana now has a new female mayor because the elected mayor abruptly resigned after the state governor accused him of being involved in the recent murder of a citizen watchdog activist "Tijuana sin censura". I swear this place is like a soap opera. 🤔.

https://www.elimparcial.com/tijuana/tijuana/Liberan-orden-de-arresto-contra-alcaldesa-de-Tecate-se-encierra-en-palacio-20201021-0033.html

[Captain Solo]

If Jinxx wants a super horny woman, he should drive to Tecate. He will have a chance to screw the mayor.

BTW, the mayor in Tijuana is also horny and is much nearer to Jinxx.

[ClamSlammer]

So has somebody forgotten that there is a scroll down function on this board, where other posters can see what he wrote in the past? Because one poster wrote that Chavelas had always (historically) charged the same prices as HK, and now they are trying to defend that falsehood in a most futile manner.

[Dogers69]

I'm going to say you're wrong cap. Pre-pandemic, I paid the peso equivalent of $2 a beer on at least a dozen occasions.LC prices for the beers wpuld change, I believe it was not based on weekwnds, but based on what time it was. Fornsome reason I felt like thenpricebont he wall would be 2 bucks early before arpund 7 orb8 pm than the price would change or they took the pricing on the wall down. I know for sure though it was both 2 bucks or I guess the 4. I just know it wasn't always the cheaper price. If I wanted to get drunk I'd jump in there quick put down 2 beers in 10 minutes. 1 dollar tip for 2 beers was also plenty for the waiter here. Hk waiter would get pissed at 50 cent tips, one gave me my 50 cent tip back once. There was other bars that had the 2 dollar beers in the alley and they had girls. Maybe they are still 2 dollar beers. Of course you could drink in your room for 1 dollar a beer but who goes all the way to mexixo to drink in their room. Hope hk keeps their free beer coupons.

[Baxter Slade]

I'm going to say you're wrong cap. Pre-pandemic, I paid the peso equivalent of $2 a beer on at least a dozen occasions.Capt Solo wrong? Jajaja tell us something we don't know.

Yes LuvMexicans you are correct sir.

[Captain Solo]

LuvMex.

I don't drink often in Chavelas. Don't remember beers are that cheap over there.

May be the mesero ripped us off.

[Rainman306]

I was reviewing Las Chaveles Facebook page, and saw $2 beers advertised during certain hours. Than the other times I guess its back to the normal price -- $4?

Its possible also that not all beers are eligible for the $2 special offer rate.

Never made it into Las Chavelas during my 3 Tijuana trips, and now that its connected to HK in my view the club no longer exists as it was.

[LuvMexicanas]

I was reviewing Las Chaveles Facebook page, and saw $2 beers advertised during certain hours. Than the other times I guess its back to the normal price -- $4?

Its possible also that not all beers are eligible for the $2 special offer rate.

Never made it into Las Chavelas during my 3 Tijuana trips, and now that its connected to HK in my view the club no longer exists as it was.That's a lot of speculation on a bar for someone with three Tijuana trips under their belt and admittedly never set foot in said bar.

[Captain Solo]

Rainman.

http://laschavelasbar.com/

Shows special $2 beer between 8 AM-8 PM.

But I was in La Zona yesterday, Saturday 2 PM. 2 different meseros told me Tecates are $4 and premium beers $5, same prices as HK as I remember it. Looks like that $2 beer special is old and no longer valid. It makes no sense that 2 bars next to each other, owned by the same people, but one sells beers at half price all the time.

Instead of a crude and erroneous broad claim that Chavelas' beers are $2 all the time, guys who claim $2 beers should confirm if the deal was ever valid, or is still valid, and qualify it with the exact brands, time and date it applies.

[LuvMexicanas]

Rainman.

http://laschavelasbar.com/

Shows special $2 beer between 8 AM-8 PM.

But I was in La Zona yesterday, Saturday 2 PM. 2 different meseros told me Tecates are $4 and premium beers $5, same prices as HK as I remember it. Looks like that $2 beer special is old and no longer valid. It makes no sense that 2 bars next to each other, owned by the same people, but one sells beers at half price all the time.

Instead of a crude and erroneous broad claim that Chavelas' beers are $2 all the time, guys who claim $2 beers should confirm if the deal was ever valid, or is still valid, and qualify it with the exact brands, time and date it applies.Not sure how crude plays into this but $2 wasn't a "deal" and how do I know that? I've ordered a beer and paid $2 at all hours of the day and night on at least a dozen occasions. More importantly, that price was actually listed in a sign posted at the bar. Is that enough for you to admit that you were wrong and simply move on?

[Dogers69]

Rainman.

http://laschavelasbar.com/

Shows special $2 beer between 8 AM-8 PM.

But I was in La Zona yesterday, Saturday 2 PM. 2 different meseros told me Tecates are $4 and premium beers $5, same prices as HK as I remember it. Looks like that $2 beer special is old and no longer valid. It makes no sense that 2 bars next to each other, owned by the same people, but one sells beers at half price all the time.

Instead of a crude and erroneous broad claim that Chavelas' beers are $2 all the time, guys who claim $2 beers should confirm if the deal was ever valid, or is still valid, and qualify it with the exact brands, time and date it applies.It's fairly simple. I've been inside chavelas drinking probably 100 times the last six years and the price for Mexican beers was 2 dollars, sometimes, and either 3 or 4 the other times. From what I am reading, here, and based on what I experienced, the price on the wall would say 2 bucks, when it was 2 bucks, and the higher price, when it was higher. I'm very cheap I look at prices. Basically there was a cut off time wise when it went to the higher price. Its possible on slow weekdays it stayed at the lower price all day and night. Anyway, it was a cool club to chill in if you found a girl to relax with who actually liked your company. Because she would drink slow, make out with you, lap dance, the Mexican men never looked at me with a why are you in here attitude. So the people were all nice. Waiters less aggressive. I used to sit and last at least 10 minutes without buying a drink. I used to spend 160 month on my drinks before covid. I'm just going to drink less with these higher prices.

[LuvMexicanas]

Rainman.

http://laschavelasbar.com/

Shows special $2 beer between 8 AM-8 PM.

But I was in La Zona yesterday, Saturday 2 PM. 2 different meseros told me Tecates are $4 and premium beers $5, same prices as HK as I remember it. Looks like that $2 beer special is old and no longer valid. It makes no sense that 2 bars next to each other, owned by the same people, but one sells beers at half price all the time.

Instead of a crude and erroneous broad claim that Chavelas' beers are $2 all the time, guys who claim $2 beers should confirm if the deal was ever valid, or is still valid, and qualify it with the exact brands, time and date it applies.Also, you said a few posts down which started all this that "Chavelas had always charged the same prices for drinks and fichas as Hong Kong. "Don't try to go off topic by talking about you were there yesterday or current status because that's irrelevant. You said "had always" and that's not true so be a man about it, acknowledge your error and move on. As a wise man once said, "when in a hole, stop digging."

[Captain Solo]

LuvMex,

No. You are wrong by claiming Chavelas' beers are $2 all the time, just because you got that price a couple times. I already proved to you with evidence from their web site and my past experiences.

Their web site lists $2 special only from 8 AM to 8 PM. But I went in Chavelas last Saturday 2 PM and asked. 2 meseros independently confirmed Tecates were $4 in the afternoon, same as HK.

Dodger has better information for the bros and more credibility than you in this issue. Some guys just have the need to claim they are the only one who knows everything.

[LuvMexicanas]

So has somebody forgotten that there is a scroll down function on this board, where other posters can see what he wrote in the past? Because one poster wrote that Chavelas had always (historically) charged the same prices as HK, and now they are trying to defend that falsehood in a most futile manner.It is beyond futile but he keeps trying to gloss over what he wrote. He jumps between past and present grasping for straws rather than just owning up to his mistake when he foolishly stated that Chavelas had "always" charged the same prices as Hong Kong.

[ClamSlammer]

I've been to LC at least 400 times in the past 12 years. And never have I paid HK prices for drinks. If a LC mesero would have tried to charge $4 for a beer it would have immediately triggered a rip-off alarm and I would have promptly refused the beers and sent him away. I got to say the post-covid price increases are ridiculous. CC 33% increase. AB 15.4%. TB 50%. LC 100%. It's only a matter of time before HK realizes they serve a better product than CC and AB and raise prices accordingly. Anybody know if MQ / GP / LG / LV / Carreta have hiked their prices?

[Jackie888]

Yes definitely the female agents do the inquiry, my whole life story how I'm even in California to begin with, how I got the money to get to California and Mexico, who I know in Mexico, if it annoyed me enough ID tell them to get the boss as they are asking me questions I don't have to legally answer. Its the same thing on amtrak 4 times a year when the DEA shows up to my seat I tell him stop asking me questions I have a lawyer and he walks away.I think you are having hallucinations. And a couple if pills from a doctor will help enjoy the Tijuana nightlife better. Not saying this to be a dick. Just think that the hallucinations are giving you a possible false memory of actual events, and making you feel bad.

[DramaFree11]

Yes definitely the female agents do the inquiry, my whole life story how I'm even in California to begin with, how I got the money to get to California and Mexico, who I know in Mexico, if it annoyed me enough ID tell them to get the boss as they are asking me questions I don't have to legally answer. Its the same thing on amtrak 4 times a year when the DEA shows up to my seat I tell him stop asking me questions I have a lawyer and he walks away.As usual, this makes no sense. I really doubt you have a lawyer, Judging from your previous reports.

[Dogers69]

I think you are having hallucinations. And a couple if pills from a doctor will help enjoy the Tijuana nightlife better. Not saying this to be a dick. Just think that the hallucinations are giving you a possible false memory of actual events, and making you feel bad.Hallucinations how? I've crossed back by foot 200 times in 5 years. A lot people cross once a year and think their experience is the only experience of all time by all humans. And amtrak and dea have working arrangements every amtrsk train successfully nabs drugs and or $$, I see it every trip.

[MongerHunger]

Yes definitely the female agents do the inquiry, my whole life story how I'm even in California to begin with, how I got the money to get to California and Mexico, who I know in Mexico, if it annoyed me enough ID tell them to get the boss as they are asking me questions I don't have to legally answer. Its the same thing on amtrak 4 times a year when the DEA shows up to my seat I tell him stop asking me questions I have a lawyer and he walks away.You're making a long list of really stupid post in this for. Add this one to the stack too! I think you crave attention that you are not receiving in the real world so you make up fantasy BS that anyone with a brain can see through.

Please for Pete's sake, post some useful information and stop with the nonsense.

[Eldo5]

Hi.

I am looking to work and help felloww, but do not know where to start.

I know that the going has been tough for many escorts during this period, thus I would use my expertise and experience of marketing to help two or three escorts improve their livelihood.

If you know any escort who would need some extra cash for working online, Do let me know.

Please don't judge me.

[Phordphan]

As usual, this makes no sense. I really doubt you have a lawyer, Judging from your previous reports.LMFAO! Is not having a lawyer the only thing in that post you have a hard time believing?? LOL.

[Jackie888]

Hallucinations how? I've crossed back by foot 200 times in 5 years. A lot people cross once a year and think their experience is the only experience of all time by all humans. And amtrak and dea have working arrangements every amtrsk train successfully nabs drugs and or $$, I see it every trip.Well you seeing it every trip is a red flag that you are misunderstanding people. They are very likely normal people going about their daily lives. People are real, but it seems you are hallucinating what they are doing. And a couple of pills can make you happy again. Think of it as a brain viagra.

Anyways criminals look for victims, like anyone with a weakness, and if you show any weakness like damage to your mental health, they are going to jump you. So consider getting together with a doctor and getting some brain viagra. Nothing wrong with a little vitamin to get you through all the crap life throws at us.

[Jackie888]

Hi.

I am looking to work and help felloww, but do not know where to start.

I know that the going has been tough for many escorts during this period, thus I would use my expertise and experience of marketing to help two or three escorts improve their livelihood.

If you know any escort who would need some extra cash for working online, Do let me know.

Please don't judge me.You are asking us to be accomplices to you flirting with pimping.

[Dickus Maximus]

Hi.

I am looking to work and help felloww, but do not know where to start.

I know that the going has been tough for many escorts during this period, thus I would use my expertise and experience of marketing to help two or three escorts improve their livelihood.

If you know any escort who would need some extra cash for working online, Do let me know.

Please don't judge me.This should be posted in "Stupid Shit in Tijuana".

[Eldo5]

You are asking us to be accomplices to you flirting with pimping.Oh no, this might have come out incorrectly. I do not intend to dive into this vertical of business.

I will just let there social media profiles boost, whose anything in demand.

[SpeedToys]

Oh no, this might have come out incorrectly. I do not intend to dive into this vertical of business.

I will just let there social media profiles boost, whose anything in demand.Which is. Pimping.

[Ctytek]

I will just let there social media profiles boost, whose anything in demand.With your command of English language and grammar. Who wouldn't want you managing and marketing their online identities!

[DramaFree11]

Hallucinations how? I've crossed back by foot 200 times in 5 years. A lot people cross once a year and think their experience is the only experience of all time by all humans. And amtrak and dea have working arrangements every amtrsk train successfully nabs drugs and or $$, I see it every trip.I have traveled the world many times and crossed the border too many times to count, I have never talked to DEA agent, that I am aware of. I am pretty surer I have talk with some CIA or the counterparts in Russia, or Kiev, but never DEA, they do not have time to be wasting on some Random Guy on train.

[ClamSlammer]

And amtrak and dea have working arrangements every amtrsk train successfully nabs drugs and or $$, I see it every trip.No, you don't see it every trip. If DEA was constantly busting Amtrak passengers for drugs, then the traffickers would find other means to transport their drugs. I'm sure there are busts every now and then, but to say there is a bust on every train is ludicrous. It's like when you said NYC cops were standing by munching popcorn while their squad cars were set ablaze. The only people they were arresting were the ones breaking into their cars. Well, in order to set a car on fire, you would break into it first, and light the interior on fire because no one sets the exterior of a vehicle on fire. So by your own words, the situation you described couldn't have taken place.


Yes definitely the female agents do the inquiry, my whole life story how I'm even in California to begin with, how I got the money to get to California and Mexico, who I know in Mexico, if it annoyed me enough ID tell them to get the boss as they are asking me questions I don't have to legally answer. Its the same thing on amtrak 4 times a year when the DEA shows up to my seat I tell him stop asking me questions I have a lawyer and he walks away.You really need some psychotherapy because you constantly make up fictional situations. The border guard never asked you questions like those. The most common questions are do you have anything to declare, where do you live, how long were you in Mexico, what were you doing in Mexico, where in the USA are you headed. Other questions may be asked like where do you work, is this your vehicle, how long have you owned your vehicle. They don't ask for you life story or how you ended up in CA or how you got the money to get here. And you think DEA agents are afraid of anyone's personally attorney? You left them shaking in their boots with a mere mention of your lawyer? Doubtful. More likely they would laugh at you. I remember when in college I worked as an insurance adjuster. Some claimants, when they didn't get what they wanted would threaten "you can speak to my lawyer then" like that was going to intimidate me. I talked to lawyers all day long and actually preferred that claimants hire attorneys because it would mean I legally can't contact them anymore, which lifted lots of frustration and stress. And BTW, nobody believes you have a lawyer on retainer to deal with intrusive DEA agents on Amtrak.

[Dogers69]

No, you don't see it every trip. If DEA was constantly busting Amtrak passengers for drugs, then the traffickers would find other means to transport their drugs. I'm sure there are busts every now and then, but to say there is a bust on every train is ludicrous. It's like when you said NYC cops were standing by munching popcorn while their squad cars were set ablaze. The only people they were arresting were the ones breaking into their cars. Well, in order to set a car on fire, you would break into it first, and light the interior on fire because no one sets the exterior of a vehicle on fire. So by your own words, the situation you described couldn't have taken place.

You really need some psychotherapy because you constantly make up fictional situations. The border guard never asked you questions like those. The most common questions are do you have anything to declare, where do you live, how long were you in Mexico, what were you doing in Mexico, where in the USA are you headed. Other questions may be asked like where do you work, is this your vehicle, how long have you owned your vehicle. They don't ask for you life story or how you ended up in CA or how you got the money to get here. And you think DEA agents are afraid of anyone's personally attorney? You left them shaking in their boots with a mere mention of your lawyer? Doubtful. More likely they would laugh at you. I remember when in college I worked as an insurance adjuster. Some claimants, when they didn't get what they wanted would threaten "you can speak to my lawyer then" like that was going to intimidate me. I talked to lawyers all day long and actually preferred that claimants hire attorneys because it would mean I legally can't contact them anymore, which lifted lots of frustration and stress. And BTW, nobody believes you have a lawyer on retainer to deal with intrusive DEA agents on Amtrak.Another clamslapper classic. Always consistent material. 3 things in everything he posts. #1-he knows things better than anyone 2- if an experience never happened to him, it is scientifically impossible for it to have ever been experienced by another human being in millions of years on earth. He has experienced it all. He would know. 3 his reading comprehension skills of English as a 2nd or 3rd language leave him always confused with anything I write as he hasn't perfected use of American phrases and expressions and only comprehends them on a literal sense. When I go to Hong Kong time flies. Watch him write how that's impossible time doesn't even have wings. Do some research bro amttak picks up dummies all day long every day they don't put DEA all over the trains for the fun of it. It's a economic gold mine with the cash they keep.

[SpeedToys]

With your command of English language and grammar. Who wouldn't want you managing and marketing their online identities!But think of the wall to wall boobs and vagine he'll be up in.

[DramaFree11]

Another clamslapper classic. Always consistent material. 3 things in everything he posts. #1-he knows things better than anyone 2- if an experience never happened to him, it is scientifically impossible for it to have ever been experienced by another human being in millions of years on earth. He has experienced it all. He would know. 3 his reading comprehension skills of English as a 2nd or 3rd language leave him always confused with anything I write as he hasn't perfected use of American phrases and expressions and only comprehends them on a literal sense. When I go to Hong Kong time flies. Watch him write how that's impossible time doesn't even have wings. Do some research bro amttak picks up dummies all day long every day they don't put DEA all over the trains for the fun of it. It's a economic gold mine with the cash they keep.Both of you guys make no sense. Neither one of you ever writes about actual girls and complain all the time. Then you come up with these ridiculous story, that know one believes. HK rocks, how you can not have fun there, just makes no sense to me.

[ScatManDoo]

No, you don't see it every trip. If DEA was constantly busting Amtrak passengers for drugs, then the traffickers would find other means to transport their drugs.El Chapo's head drug transporting guy said he built compartments on Amtrak cars to hide cocaine.

According to testimony and assistance given earlier this year & 2018 by El Chapo's 'train guru' Tirso Martinez Sanchez that designed the Sinaloa Cartel's prolific cocaine transportation network.

Martinez testified for the prosecution at the 2018 trial of Sinaloa Cartel leader Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman in Brooklyn Federal Court. He detailed how the narcotics were moved through Mexico into the USA he told jurors about how he designed train cars with compartments to hide cocaine and the way workers would add a few inches of oil into the trains to throw off drug-sniffing dogs.

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/ny-sinaloa-sartal-transit-head-prison-time-cooperate-witness-20200220-d4744y2ep5evfc52ukhwehrifi-story.html

[ClamSlammer]

Another clamslapper classic. Always consistent material. 3 things in everything he posts. #1-he knows things better than anyone 2- if an experience never happened to him, it is scientifically impossible for it to have ever been experienced by another human being in millions of years on earth. He has experienced it all. He would know. 3 his reading comprehension skills of English as a 2nd or 3rd language leave him always confused with anything I write as he hasn't perfected use of American phrases and expressions and only comprehends them on a literal sense. When I go to Hong Kong time flies. Watch him write how that's impossible time doesn't even have wings. Do some research bro amttak picks up dummies all day long every day they don't put DEA all over the trains for the fun of it. It's a economic gold mine with the cash they keep.You think that I have an English reading comprehension problem? I've been educated from pre-school to post graduate level, graduating summa cum laude from a tier 1 academic institution, all in the USA So I'm pretty sure my English comprehension skills are far superior to your own. I mean, you are always complaining that you earn very little from your menial, low-wage job. Surely due to your rather modest academic achievements. And if English is anyone's second language, I do not put them down. Hey, it's not easy learning a second language during adulthood. And if someone's mastery of English is not perfect, I wouldn't make fun him like you just did.

But let's examine further, who's English is better.


A lot woman in here buying their own beer...

Adelitas same amount of woman as normal and maybe 60% of the monger crowd. HK had a lot of woman..
Tons woman wandering in from HK...Previously it was a cheaper HK with half chubbier woman that wouldn't be able to work in HK...So basically they kept the music but imported the HK men woman.So look at your own words above. You don't seem to realize that the plural form of "woman" is "women. " There's six instances where you wrote "woman" when the correct form was "women. " That's not just an isolated typo. You seriously don't know basic English grammar. I would have no problem with that normally. But for someone who makes fun of another's English, I'm going to call you out on it.

[Bbond]

The most common questions are do you have anything to declare, where do you live, how long were you in Mexico, what were you doing in Mexico, where in the USA are you headed. Other questions may be asked like where do you work, is this your vehicle, how long have you owned your vehicle. They don't ask for you life story or how you ended up in CA or how you got the money to get here.Passports show birth state. Mine says Montana. Several times that has drawn comment from a CBP agent, commenting that I was a long way from home. My reply is always that I was born in Montana, but I do not recall ever living there. As always, they are not looking for a correct answer, but rather how you answer.

[AmorPorFavor]

Another clamslapper classic. Always consistent material. 3 things in everything he posts. #1-he knows things better than anyone 2- if an experience never happened to him, it is scientifically impossible for it to have ever been experienced by another human being in millions of years on earth. He has experienced it all. He would know. 3 his reading comprehension skills of English as a 2nd or 3rd language leave him always confused with anything I write as he hasn't perfected use of American phrases and expressions and only comprehends them on a literal sense. When I go to Hong Kong time flies. Watch him write how that's impossible time doesn't even have wings. Do some research bro amttak picks up dummies all day long every day they don't put DEA all over the trains for the fun of it. It's a economic gold mine with the cash they keep.You made me curious so I searched it and yes the DEA does work the trains very heavily. https://theintercept.com/2019/08/31/dea-amtrak-passenger-search-albuquerque/.

[Captain Solo]

AmorporFavor,

That's a good article.

It's well known that airlines, train and bus companies share their passengers manifests and intelligence with LE. DEA seized suspected cash from a lot of innocent people and rarely ever returned them unless victims file lawsuits in federal courts.

With federal court attorneys charging $600- $1,000 per hour, a simple, basic law suit would easily cost $100 K to $200 K, so the poor victims are fucked! Just be careful and don't get entangled with the laws. Lawyers and fucked up law enforcement.

[ClamSlammer]

Passports show birth state. Mine says Montana. Several times that has drawn comment from a CBP agent, commenting that I was a long way from home. My reply is always that I was born in Montana, but I do not recall ever living there. As always, they are not looking for a correct answer, but rather how you answer.Respectfully, commenting that you're a long ways from your birthplace is not asking for your life story. I was born a lot further away than Montana and I've probably crossed that border close to 1000 times by now, and my birthplace has never drawn a comment.

And for you guys that are bringing up DEA and Amtrak, quit it with your pathetic attempts to prove me wrong for the first time. You guys are so desperate to prove me wrong, just once, that you're willing to ignore exactly what I wrote and just toss out anything and hoping that something sticks. Well, review what I wrote. I wrote that I agree that DEA works Amtrak and that busts do happen. So you guys are supporting my case, not disproving it. I wrote that busts do not happen on every single Amtrak ride. And no one's disproven that statement. So you guys fail again, have always failed, and always will fail, because I write nothing but the truth unlike a couple of others on this board.

[DramaFree11]

AmorporFavor,

That's a good article.

It's well known that airlines, train and bus companies share their passengers manifests and intelligence with LE. DEA seized suspected cash from a lot of innocent people and rarely ever returned them unless victims file lawsuits in federal courts.

With federal court attorneys charging $600- $1,000 per hour, a simple, basic law suit would easily cost $100 K to $200 K, so the poor victims are fucked! Just be careful and don't get entangled with the laws. Lawyers and fucked up law enforcement.Yes, correct, but DEA is not going to go up to a random guy, on 4 different occasions and harass him, they have way better things to do with their time. Just not true.

As far as the border agents they come up with the crazy questions. One guy asked for my business card, last time they commented on my shoes. At that point I said respectively it is time for the inspection and interview to end. Another time they started asking about my golf clubs, this was in the secondary line. At that point I said, I need to go to work.

[Dogers69]

You think that I have an English reading comprehension problem? I've been educated from pre-school to post graduate level, graduating summa cum laude from a tier 1 academic institution, all in the USA So I'm pretty sure my English comprehension skills are far superior to your own. I mean, you are always complaining that you earn very little from your menial, low-wage job. Surely due to your rather modest academic achievements. And if English is anyone's second language, I do not put them down. Hey, it's not easy learning a second language during adulthood. And if someone's mastery of English is not perfect, I wouldn't make fun him like you just did.

But let's examine further, who's English is better.


So look at your own words above. You don't seem to realize that the plural form of "woman" is "women. " There's six instances where you wrote "woman" when the correct form was "women. " That's not just an isolated typo. You seriously don't know basic English grammar. I would have no problem with that normally. But for someone who makes fun of another's English, I'm going to call you out on it.If English is not a second language I don't have another explanation for your reading comprehension ability. You always take the words I use, and turn it into different meaning. Like I can tell a DEA agent that I have a lawer, and you can rant how that's impossible for me to have a lawer. Most people in America know telling someone you have a lawer has nothing to do with having a lawer. Its a expression, essentially telling someone to take a hike. That doesn't mean hiking in mountains either. It means get lost, but not really lost, more like go away from me.

[Phordphan]

You made me curious so I searched it and yes the DEA does work the trains very heavily. https://theintercept.com/2019/08/31/dea-amtrak-passenger-search-albuquerque/.They apparently work the Southwest Chief, a known drug route. I'm not so sure about the Surfliner. Maybe. Why doesn't everybody just say, "Sure. Show me your warrant and I'll be happy to open my luggage?

[Baxter Slade]

There has been some discussion on drink prices in LasChavelas these days. Well there is a coupon I use to buy a bucket of beers and receive a half price room at cascadas. If you plan on drinking its a great deal. I have used it many times, you pay $20 for 10 beers, get the coupon signed and it works great.

Well I tried it a week ago and they wanted $40 for a bucket. Even though right on the website it says beers in LC are $2 until 8 pm And it was will before 8 pm Of course I got nowhere. I heard everything from we are to busy to fix the website to there is no more LC this is HK 2. After trying to argue with all kinds of employees of course I got nowhere and gave up. Now I know why I hate the HK chain. And will continue to avoid them.

[Dogers69]

They apparently work the Southwest Chief, a known drug route. I'm not so sure about the Surfliner. Maybe. Why doesn't everybody just say, "Sure. Show me your warrant and I'll be happy to open my luggage?I was on the surfliner from LOS Angeles to san Diego they had the dogs smelling my bags 3 times 3 different employees every half hour. In this case Amtrak police. They do the same thing except DEA wears jeans and t shirt dresses like a slob so you don't see them coming. I told a 20 year old girl she doesn't have to let him look in her bag and he rushed at me ready to tackle me but I had never gotten up from my chair. Wanted to arrest me got in my face amusing me of interfering with police activity some bull crap. Wasn't my 1st bad encounter. I usually have the camera rolling when I see them coming. Its the same guys I know what they look like.

[SpeedToys]

I was on the surfliner from LOS Angeles to san Diego they had the dogs smelling my bags 3 times 3 different employees every half hour.Did you alert your lawyer?

[Dogers69]

There has been some discussion on drink prices in LasChavelas these days. Well there is a coupon I use to buy a bucket of beers and receive a half price room at cascadas. If you plan on drinking its a great deal. I have used it many times, you pay $20 for 10 beers, get the coupon signed and it works great.

Well I tried it a week ago and they wanted $40 for a bucket. Even though right on the website it says beers in LC are $2 until 8 pm And it was will before 8 pm Of course I got nowhere. I heard everything from we are to busy to fix the website to there is no more LC this is HK 2. After trying to argue with all kinds of employees of course I got nowhere and gave up. Now I know why I hate the HK chain. And will continue to avoid them.No surprise here. I figured those coupons would be a issue. Essentially LC is gone, even the frumpy 40 pound overweight woman seem to be gone. It's just HK with a Mexican band which is still cool if you are into that.

[Phordphan]

I was on the surfliner from LOS Angeles to san Diego they had the dogs smelling my bags 3 times 3 different employees every half hour. In this case Amtrak police. They do the same thing except DEA wears jeans and t shirt dresses like a slob so you don't see them coming. I told a 20 year old girl she doesn't have to let him look in her bag and he rushed at me ready to tackle me but I had never gotten up from my chair. Wanted to arrest me got in my face amusing me of interfering with police activity some bull crap. Wasn't my 1st bad encounter. I usually have the camera rolling when I see them coming. Its the same guys I know what they look like.How often do they let you out of the home?

[Phordphan]

There has been some discussion on drink prices in LasChavelas these days. Well there is a coupon I use to buy a bucket of beers and receive a half price room at cascadas. If you plan on drinking its a great deal. I have used it many times, you pay $20 for 10 beers, get the coupon signed and it works great.

Well I tried it a week ago and they wanted $40 for a bucket. Even though right on the website it says beers in LC are $2 until 8 pm And it was will before 8 pm Of course I got nowhere. I heard everything from we are to busy to fix the website to there is no more LC this is HK 2. After trying to argue with all kinds of employees of course I got nowhere and gave up. Now I know why I hate the HK chain. And will continue to avoid them.Apparently the minute they knocked that hole in the wall between the clubs, LC ceased to exist.

[Phordphan]

What happened to you is normal, for both HK and all the bars. There has always been a unwritten rule, just from observing waiters, that you only get 20 seconds to talk to a girl, for free, before she has to leave if you don't buy her a beer. That's assuming, a waiter noticed and ran over to you like they do 95% of the time. You tipping them money, while its better for the girl than the measly 2 bucks or so credit from a drink, that does nothing for the waiters, the waiters, in the bars, are essentially the waiters / owners / manager / bouncer / pimp. They run the show. Unless you a big shot and the waiters know to leave you alone, then we are the peasants in their house. The girl I bought drink for yesterday told me the lap dance thing is the new policy if you buy her a drink they are going to push the dance on you. They asked me twice. They also interrupted my 2 drinks with her which were 10 minutes each, they interrupted about 8 more times to buy garbage food. I don't know how to get anyone to keep the food beggars away. The profit from selling 2 dollar junk food, vs pissing guys off to the point they buy less drinks, I think its a bad business decision from these bars. Its like you decide to buy a girl a drink, but its not you and the girl for 10 minutes. It becomes a sausage fest of men surrounding you and if you wave these food people off they look at you in disbelief like who the hell does this gringo think he is. I think next drinkbi buy a girl ill tell the waiter bill tip him after if he keeps everyone away. He probably won't bother to help. And the girls hate the lap dance most tell me this. So if you do a lap dance, its just a miserable 7 minutes of begging you for sex. Every 20 seconds she will ask, let's go upstairs for sex. 95% of the lap dances this is how it goes.Why do you keep going? You obviously have a tenuous grip on Spanish (and perhaps reality, but that's for another discussion), after all these years you still don't know how to turn away a vendor, you supposedly let the meseros run roughshod over you, you let girls slap you. Do you also have a little rain cloud that follows you everywhere? Dude, give it up. If life south of the border sucks this much, stay home. Please.

[Dogers69]

Why do you keep going? You obviously have a tenuous grip on Spanish (and perhaps reality, but that's for another discussion), after all these years you still don't know how to turn away a vendor, you supposedly let the meseros run roughshod over you, you let girls slap you. Do you also have a little rain cloud that follows you everywhere? Dude, give it up. If life south of the border sucks this much, stay home. Please.How many years have you been telling me to stay away from Tijuana. There's always the guy that can't take criticism. Same with sports forums, you can have posters, many, who can't take someone pointing out the trams flaws. Some people are fanboys. Some people live in reality. I write about real life Tijuana not the fake Tijuana you would like me to write about.

[Ctytek]

How many years have you been telling me to stay away from Tijuana. There's always the guy that can't take criticism. Same with sports forums, you can have posters, many, who can't take someone pointing out the trams flaws. Some people are fanboys. Some people live in reality. I write about real life Tijuana not the fake Tijuana you would like me to write about.I don't really know you, but if your posts reflect your personality, I can see why are you slapped around, abused and taken advantage of everywhere you go. It doesn't have to do with "real Tijuana" - it's just you bro.

[Phordphan]

How many years have you been telling me to stay away from Tijuana. There's always the guy that can't take criticism. Same with sports forums, you can have posters, many, who can't take someone pointing out the trams flaws. Some people are fanboys. Some people live in reality. I write about real life Tijuana not the fake Tijuana you would like me to write about.I haven't told you to stay away from shit. You're the one posting about what a miserable time you have, and how everything sucks. I go all over Tijuana and never have the problems you have. As does just about everybody here. If you have such bad luck, WTF do you keep coming back? I know if I had half the weird-ass problems you have I'd never cross the border again.

Why don't you find that HK girls you were bragging about, the one you used to see constantly off the clock until she asked you for money? Yes, that one. Give her whatever you spend in the clubs and stay out of the Zona. You won't get mugged by a gang of well-dressed midgets, you won't get hassled by cops for carrying all your worldly belongings in your coat, and so on and so forth. See? Win-win.

[ClamSlammer]

50 pesos obviously a typo. Every poster on here who has taken the bus knew I meant 50 cents. Its called common sense. If one uses common sense in English language its a lot easier to understand conversation. Like last month when I said, if time Flys in Hong Kong, you would write, "impossible time has no wings" I've never seen anyone with no ability to follow along. Even when you understand what I write, you decide it must be false. You never had a 5 dollar uber ride so, of course, its impossible, anything that can be possible in the world, is only true if you've experienced it. There's also no stop sign crossing that street and no break in cars so you have to walk in front of moving cars.Don't understand why you keep mentioning the stupid "time flies" idiom. When I have ever misconstrued an idiom? Never. And I think my multiple graduate degrees and certificates greatly overshadow your high school diploma okay, so I don't think you want to get into an English comprehension contest with me. And you say every poster on here knew you meant 50 cents yet none brought it up. I've had plenty of $5 Uber rides, but never remember seeing a fare that is 2.5 x the normal rate. And that street where the walkway ends, you think you're Frogger dodging speeding 16 wheelers, clinging to life every second you inch forward. But you're not. Every car is moving slow into or out of that you-turn, and there is no cross traffic nor counter traffic so there is no stop sign needed. It's more dangerous crossing from HK to Trop than it is crossing over to Milenio.

[SpeedToys]

Not to see if they will be good for sex, that's likely never gonna happen for me unless a girl is high, in hk anywayI'm new -here- but not new globally in mongering, and this statement filled in _so_ many holes for me.

You're right, you are a miserable person to be in a room with. You wear it openly.

"Maybe it's a cultural difference, but in USA if a guy is getting busy with a girl, and you are caught staring at them, you can expect a problem. ".

That's the other side of your posts as well. You don't realize that you're not home in every one of them.

It is a cultural difference that's just beyond your own horsepower to accept, and MOLD yourself to for your own benefit. It's not your country, your bar, or your operational standards. You bellyaching about it won't change any of them.

They're not staring AT you, they're just doing their hustle for dinner, as you do yours to feel up a woman that could never enjoy sex with you, unless they were high. (This is a quote, not an insult).

Beggar Bingo exists everywhere around the world in some form. When you step sideways into someone else's world, it's different. They don't eat if they don't ask.

1) Smile.

2) Say no.

3) Get back to your titties.

Probly 5-12 seconds quicker to deal with it like an adult, too.

Process that, move on. And maybe enjoy the trip more. Expect its coming, put on your best happy "no" face. And move on. The woman being paid to like you, will probly actually do so.

Look, you're the visitor, you're in Mexico, and even that your phone still sucks up Verizon signals from juuust over there. Nobody cares. It's a fundamentally different set of rules. And you are only casually tolerated in the Zona operating by YOUR ruleset. Further more, you're uninterruptedly _beside yourself_ that you're not getting the attention/Respect/Privacy/Fealty that across the border that you have come to expect.

I've seen western tourists (UK / Aussie mostly) being used to mop the streets with when they feel that -their- rules have not been respected in Thailand more than once. And it was always this guy.

And you can't stand that you no longer set the rules, and you're busting a vein. In every post you have in here. Yet you still go and abuse yourself, you keep coming. And getting upset, dis-respected, etc. Every week. ?

I suffered a stroke in my brain stem.

I was 'locked in' for three days, couldn't move for 4 after that, and lost 60% of my muscle mass by the time I left rehab.

I can no longer ride a bike, play tennis, run, or walk in an FSTS compliant straight line. And my right side feels drunk as _hell_ after two drinks. (Ok, the last one is kinda fun sometimes.).

I'm lucky to be able to voluntarily blink an eyelid.

You're on the path to a stroke.

You don't want a stroke, and yours won't be of the simple Ischemic variety either. Money says you have at least one unknown brain aneurysms right now. (Be surprised how many people DO).

Grabbin ass and stuffin some pussy is supposed to be fun, no reason to _invite_ unhappiness into the whole deal.

But I am absolutely sure now who is speaking now when I read your posts. I've met you all over the world.

"Lighten up Francis. ".

-LT Hulka.

[Dickus Maximus]

But I am absolutely sure now who is speaking now when I read your posts. I've met you all over the world.

"Lighten up Francis. ".

-LT Hulka.Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig.

I still enjoyed your post though. And, on the offhand chance the pig starts to sing, we'll all be grateful.

[ClamSlammer]

I like your idea but most places require noon checkout and then check in is 3 p and sometimes as late as 4 p.Yes, just about every hotel has check in / out policies around those hours, but if you have a consecutive reservation and keeping the same room, pretty much every hotel will allow you to check in to the same room immediately after check out.


I'll never understand how businesses can not have change for even small amounts of money.I don't think it's a case of a business not having change. It's a case of our old friend skipping his schizophrenia meds. No waiter was yelling at him for paying $200 mx for a $120 bill. Obviously he was imagining it. Just like he was imagining reading about license plate readers at the border alerting to stolen cars every two seconds. Just scroll down to post #18691 on this thread for some insight on his state of mind. Never in 10 years on this forum have I seen a post deleted by admin because "the writing was so bad" until now. Browse through the "stupid shit" thread and 90% of the posts call out one specific poster.

[Ctytek]

Yes, just about every hotel has check in / out policies around those hours, but if you have a consecutive reservation and keeping the same room, pretty much every hotel will allow you to check in to the same room immediately after check out.An even better strategy would be to not stay at hotels with silly guest policies like this. There are plenty of hotels in Tijuana that have reasonable guest policies. Vote with your wallet and boycott the ones that do not.


I don't think it's a case of a business not having change. It's a case of our old friend skipping his schizophrenia meds. No waiter was yelling at him for paying $200 mx for a $120 bill. Obviously he was imagining it. Just like he was imagining reading about license plate readers at the border alerting to stolen cars every two seconds. Just scroll down to post #18691 on this thread for some insight on his state of mind. Never in 10 years on this forum have I seen a post deleted by admin because "the writing was so bad" until now. Browse through the "stupid shit" thread and 90% of the posts call out one specific poster.You spend way too much time analyzing this clown's semi-coherent ramblings. Just do what I do and ignore him.

[KC Questor]

I don't think it's a case of a business not having change. No waiter was yelling at him for paying $200 mx for a $120 bill.True, his example was ridiculous. However I've often run into the case of businesses not being able to break at 200 or 500 p note for a small purchase.

[Covid2020]

It amuses me how others speculate on actual experiences. I'll ask again. Why did I not get it the 19 previous times I visited? Why did I get it the one time I was making out with someone who had it?

I don't disagree with your premise or the fact that it can be airborne, though not all scientists agree with that. And I might agree with your point if I was infected on my second, third, or fourth visit.

But on what basis would you say that the more likely cause is airborne, not from kissing a chica that has it? That defies any and all logic and just proves a bias to your predetermined belief vs the facts.Seems like you finally made a acquaintance with me, just kidding.

Just to add to the topic, everyone agrees that it speads through liquid particles, I recently read an article on how air circulation in a room effects who gets infected who doesn't. They found people who never had contact with each other stayed apart 6 ft were still infected just being south of the air flow direction of an known infected person. There are only a few ways for liquids to enter easily (highly) into your body, your mouth, nose, eyes. So covering with mask helps, having glasses help, staying in a corner with no ventilation (assuming you are not with an infected person) or some where were air is blowing from outside and not reaching you after it has gone though a bunch of people. Even with all these there's the luck factor, you can only improve your odds with the precautions but if you are downright unlucky doing all these does not change the scales much, if you catch my drift.

[Artisttyp]

Seems like you finally made a acquaintance with me, just kidding.

Just to add to the topic, everyone agrees that it speads through liquid particles, I recently read an article on how air circulation in a room effects who gets infected who doesn't. They found people who never had contact with each other stayed apart 6 ft were still infected just being south of the air flow direction of an known infected person. There are only a few ways for liquids to enter easily (highly) into your body, your mouth, nose, eyes. So covering with mask helps, having glasses help, staying in a corner with no ventilation (assuming you are not with an infected person) or some where were air is blowing from outside and not reaching you after it has gone though a bunch of people. Even with all these there's the luck factor, you can only improve your odds with the precautions but if you are downright unlucky doing all these does not change the scales much, if you catch my drift.I wish you would tell this to the selfish assholes with no masks running by me or whizzing by on bicycles huffing and puffing like the Little Engine that could.

[Dcrist0527]

Seems like you finally made a acquaintance with me, just kidding.

Just to add to the topic, everyone agrees that it speads through liquid particles, I recently read an article on how air circulation in a room effects who gets infected who doesn't. They found people who never had contact with each other stayed apart 6 ft were still infected just being south of the air flow direction of an known infected person. There are only a few ways for liquids to enter easily (highly) into your body, your mouth, nose, eyes. So covering with mask helps, having glasses help, staying in a corner with no ventilation (assuming you are not with an infected person) or some where were air is blowing from outside and not reaching you after it has gone though a bunch of people. Even with all these there's the luck factor, you can only improve your odds with the precautions but if you are downright unlucky doing all these does not change the scales much, if you catch my drift.I should have known better than to start this topic. I did so simply to inform. Yet mongers, a shocking number of whom are apparently expert epidemiologists (who knew!) surmise that walking through a hallway is how I caught the virus, not from kissing an infected chica.

Covid2020 raises some good points and a reasonable summary. But, to the rest, in the end, if you think you know more than everyone else, you are the fool. Why do I say that? How many times have our so called experts flipped their position over the last several months. There is video of Dr Fauci saying masks aren't needed. Even mocking the thought that they offer any real protection. We have Gavin Newsom telling us to cover up after every bite, which in reality only exacerbates the problem. The truth is this virus is a known commodity for about a year, at least outside a very small circle of scientists. The fact is we, as a human race, don't know a lot about this virus. If it makes you feel better to know it all, well, as I said, you are fooling only yourself.

Covid2020, I did not mean this to be directed at you. What you displayed was something you read. Information is powerful. We all have to educate ourselves, evaluate the quality of the endless information being thrown at us, and make our own decisions. Determine our own risk profile and act accordingly.

[John Gault]

So how do you think your girl got sick in the first place? Did she get it from you, before you got it from her? No, she most likely got it from being in the same space and breathing the same air. As others already pointed out. The virus is an airborne, and spreads like any aerosol. A single person easily infect a whole bunch of people in the same enclosed space, breathing the same air. This way enclosed indoor space are so much more dangerous than open air.

So no, most likely you did not get it from this chica, and she probably wasn't even sick when you were sitting with her. It's nearly certain that both you and her got it from someone else walking those hallways, probably another monger.Unless you are DFK a Chica outdoors there is no real chance of getting it when you are outside.

I walk in a park every day and I see many people wearing masks. To me that is not needed. Yes you are right. The enclosed spaces with mongers and girls are very dangerous.

[John Gault]

I wish you would tell this to the selfish assholes with no masks running by me or whizzing by on bicycles huffing and puffing like the Little Engine that could.Hola my old friend. One thing that never gets mentioned in this virus talk is the persons own immunity.

Myself I do everything in my power to keep my immunity at a high level.

74 years old and still ticking.

[Ctytek]

It amuses me how others speculate on actual experiences. I'll ask again. Why did I not get it the 19 previous times I visited? Why did I get it the one time I was making out with someone who had it?That is like asking - "why did I drink and drive 19 times without getting into an incident, before this one last time when I wore a green hat and crashed into a pole". The answer would be. It's probably the drinking that finally caught up with you, not wearing the green hat.


But on what basis would you say that the more likely cause is airborne, not from kissing a chica that has it? That defies any and all logic and just proves a bias to your predetermined belief vs the facts.On the basis of the fact that walking around in an enclosed space and sharing air with a whole bunch of people is statistically more likely to infect you, versus getting in close proximity with a specific person (who may have not even been sick at the time). That's not to say of course that you could never have gotten it from DFK'ing an infected chica. I didn't say that. Just statistically not as likely as the other possibility. This is why you're much safer sticking with escorts for your mongering needs vs hanging out at speakeasies. Any individual person is not nearly as likely to infect you as sharing air with a crowd of people.

[ScatManDoo]

ANow, I just hope I have immunity for 4 months and then I get the vaccine. Light at the end of the tunnel, boys.You would be better off anticipating 6 to 7 months wait as the Trump administration takes it's final incompetent steps in setting up to keep the vaccine's delivery in the states to be slower than other industrialized nations.

[ClamSlammer]

Clammy, these are your own words. Quoting: "All it takes is a couple hours lounging around and you will get infected."

Well, given that I've been in there 20 times in the last several months, each time more than a "couple hours", I guess that makes you right 1 out of 20 times. 5%. Admittedly, that's better than I gave you credit for, so, congratulations.

Have you been up there? I mean, you are the world's biggest guru of Mexican strip clubs. So I trust you speak from experience? If so, how were your Covid symptoms?

As for my manager friend, let me know when you'll be there. I'll be sure he comps you a beer. Tecate light, I'm assume?

As always, I speak from experience. Notice my comments said what I believe and what I experienced, not mindless speculation with a 5% accuracy rate.DCrist, your problem is, you have a credibility problem. Once you get caught lying and making up facts, you lose your credibility, permanently. And I stone cold busted you lying about knowing a HK manager and confirming that a sliding ficha quota exists, even though I've proven over and over again that it is impossible without a time machine.

When you get caught up in a tough argument, you tend to make up imaginary friends that are experts in the field that confirm your assertions. Your problem is timing. If you really did consult an expert, for example your imaginary HK manager friend. You would bring it up at the beginning of the argument. You tend to bring up your imaginary experts a week into your argument. Which proves that you are lying. For example, imagine the board got into a discussion about whether UFO's are stored in Roswell, in which you are a participant from the beginning. So there's all this back and forth and then a month later, you claim: "my father was a USA Army engineer and was stationed in Roswell to reverse engineer the UFO's. " No one's going to believe you because you waited a month to say it. Same thing with your imaginary HK manager. Such an obvious lie.

So, if you want to reclaim any credibility, your only recourse would be to logged out, create a new handle and go from there. Because your current handle is permanently stained from getting busted making up facts.

[ClamSlammer]

So how do you think your girl got sick in the first place? Did she get it from you, before you got it from her? No, she most likely got it from being in the same space and breathing the same air. As others already pointed out. The virus is an airborne, and spreads like any aerosol. A single person easily infect a whole bunch of people in the same enclosed space, breathing the same air. This way enclosed indoor space are so much more dangerous than open air.

So no, most likely you did not get it from this chica, and she probably wasn't even sick when you were sitting with her. It's nearly certain that both you and her got it from someone else walking those hallways, probably another monger.Dcrist has a friend that is the head of virology at Johns Hopkins. He assembled a team that included experts from Stanford, Oxford, Harvard, Northwestern and the Mayo Clinic and they all descended upon Tijuana, Baja California, Mexico, to conduct a study into how Dcrist contracted the virus. They tested the DNA of his virus strain vs. That of the puta. After intense study, they concluded that the virus was transmitted from the puta to Dcrist, at 12:58 am, December 18, at an altitude of 6. 5 meters above sea level, inside the 3rd speakeasy room on right, table closest to the bathroom, while facing west, with traces of Tecate light intermixed with the virus.

[DramaFree11]

That is like asking - "why did I drink and drive 19 times without getting into an incident, before this one last time when I wore a green hat and crashed into a pole". The answer would be. It's probably the drinking that finally caught up with you, not wearing the green hat.

On the basis of the fact that walking around in an enclosed space and sharing air with a whole bunch of people is statistically more likely to infect you, versus getting in close proximity with a specific person (who may have not even been sick at the time). That's not to say of course that you could never have gotten it from DFK'ing an infected chica. I didn't say that. Just statistically not as likely as the other possibility. This is why you're much safer sticking with escorts for your mongering needs vs hanging out at speakeasies. Any individual person is not nearly as likely to infect you as sharing air with a crowd of people.Dr. Clam,

I think the person that has the creditability issues is you. Who cares how the girls at HK get's paid and yes there is sliding scale. Top Performer in any business always get perks and compensation that other do not. Again just once time try to actually talk about hooking up with an actual girl.

[ClamSlammer]

Top Performer in any business always get perks and compensation that other do not.Absolutely, positively, 100% false. There's many businesses where top performers are treated exactly the same as other employees. You sell the most Whoppers at Burger King. What you do get? Nothing. You wash the most cars at the car wash? What do you get? Nothing. You check out the most customers at Soriana. What do you get? Nothing. Your assertion is laughable. If you had replaced the word "always" with "sometimes" your statement would be accurate. But as you wrote it, it is undoubtedly false.


...yes there is sliding scale.There is no quota nor sliding scale. Like I said before, unless you want to extend cash credit to drunken, drug-addicted putas, it is impossible to enact a sliding scale without a time machine. Putas can cash out daily. So the quota must be enacted daily. But then again, putas can also save their fichas and not cash them in for weeks or months. So that proves that quotas cannot exist, period.

And a sliding scale quota? You got to be an even bigger idiot to believe in that. You see, they only keep casual track of putas that go arriba. The clipboard guy only writes the puta's stage name and time of departure. That's it. And you know what, there are multiple chicas that use the same name. Putas are not assigned a unique number or name. Just a generic name they choose that may be used by another puta as well. There's more than one Kenia, Dana, Carla, Candy, Megan. And so on. So they don't even keep a proper accounting how many times a puta goes up. So how do they enact a sliding scale quota? They don't.

So what's easier?

1. No quota of any kind and just pay $34 mx per ficha and never have any disputes or problems whatsoever.

Or.

2. Enact a sliding scale quota which entails:

A) extending cash credit to alcoholic drug-addicted putas and trust them to pay it back.

B) hiring an accounting team to calculate the sliding scale for 1000 putas daily / weekly / monthly or whatever fantasy time period you insist on, with no accurate record of arriba counts.

C) inventing a time machine because that is the only way to accurately calculate the daily payout of the sliding scale.

D) hiring a dispute resolution team just to deal with hundreds of putas that will contest the amount they are paid.

E) hiring extra bartenders to pay out the putas because it will take a lot longer to calculate the payouts.

F) losing money because putas are constantly quitting because they're pissed off at being short-changed, whether in reality or perceived.

So let's review:

1. If there is a quota, it must be calculated at the lowest increment of time possible to cash out. Putas can cash out daily, so if there is a quota, it must be calculated daily.

2. Putas save their fichas for days, weeks, even months. So there cannot be a daily quota. Go back to #1 and this proves there cannot be any quota whatsoever.

3. If a sliding scale was calculated based upon arribas, there must be an accurate record kept of arribas. There is not.

4. There's never been one shred of evidence posted here or on any Tijuana puta board that supports the existence of a quota.


Again just once time try to actually talk about hooking up with an actual girl.You want to know why I never write about sessioning with any chica? Because I don't. I've fucked a decent amount of top tier HK putas, but never formally sessioned with them. Matter of fact, I regularly turn down putas that practically beg to go home with me. I don't want to look like an asshole on here bragging about the number of putas I fuck for free. And even if I did, I know some of you PLM's would go tattling, putting my freebies in jeopardy. How do you think I know so much about the inner workings of HK? These putas tell me everything, along with a couple staff members. They know they'll never get a single peso out of me so they have no reason to lie and make up some be. S. About a quota hoping I'll feel sorry for them and buy them drinks. And every single puta has vehemently denied any quota exists. So that's why I don't write about hooking up with any putas.

[Dcrist0527]

DCrist, your problem is, you have a credibility problem. Once you get caught lying and making up facts, you lose your credibility, permanently. And I stone cold busted you lying about knowing a HK manager and confirming that a sliding ficha quota exists, even though I've proven over and over again that it is impossible without a time machine.

When you get caught up in a tough argument, you tend to make up imaginary friends that are experts in the field that confirm your assertions. Your problem is timing. If you really did consult an expert, for example your imaginary HK manager friend. You would bring it up at the beginning of the argument. You tend to bring up your imaginary experts a week into your argument. Which proves that you are lying. For example, imagine the board got into a discussion about whether UFO's are stored in Roswell, in which you are a participant from the beginning. So there's all this back and forth and then a month later, you claim: "my father was a USA Army engineer and was stationed in Roswell to reverse engineer the UFO's. " No one's going to believe you because you waited a month to say it. Same thing with your imaginary HK manager. Such an obvious lie.

So, if you want to reclaim any credibility, your only recourse would be to logged out, create a new handle and go from there. Because your current handle is permanently stained from getting busted making up facts.You hang on this supposed lie. I can't even follow your logic about how you think you busted me. Because I didn't disclose an acquaintance prior to making a statement? Wtf does that reveal? Now I should disclose names of my childhood pets?

I suppose your tact is the best you can come up with. But please quit taxing your brain so much. Your drivel does not matter that much to me.

[DramaFree11]

Absolutely, positively, 100% false. There's many businesses where top performers are treated exactly the same as other employees. You sell the most Whoppers at Burger King. What you do get? Nothing. You wash the most cars at the car wash? What do you get? Nothing. You check out the most customers at Soriana. What do you get? Nothing. Your assertion is laughable. If you had replaced the word "always" with "sometimes" your statement would be accurate. But as you wrote it, it is undoubtedly false.

There is no quota nor sliding scale. Like I said before, unless you want to extend cash credit to drunken, drug-addicted putas, it is impossible to enact a sliding scale without a time machine. Putas can cash out daily. So the quota must be enacted daily. But then again, putas can also save their fichas and not cash them in for weeks or months. So that proves that quotas cannot exist, period.

And a sliding scale quota? You got to be an even bigger idiot to believe in that. You see, they only keep casual track of putas that go arriba. The clipboard guy only writes the puta's stage name and time of departure. That's it. And you know what, there are multiple chicas that use the same name. Putas are not assigned a unique number or name. Just a generic name they choose that may be used by another puta as well. There's more than one Kenia, Dana, Carla, Candy, Megan. And so on. So they don't even keep a proper accounting how many times a puta goes up. So how do they enact a sliding scale quota? They don't...Here is the difference between myself and others that actual are with real women, we say very little, but speak with action. Read my posts, I work hard and meet a lot of girls, some are very hot. I try not to brag and give information that might help other. You have created this fantasy world, that know one but yourself believes. All you do is agrue with people about the smallest details. I wish everyone would make a lot of money including HK girls. Top performance at HK definitely get perks. Yes mgmt keeps track of the top performers and they know who is not producing, HK is a business. They also need real hot girls there for obvious reason, and they let these girls do what they want, within reason.

Just example, why are some girls allowed to just work Weekend night shift, while other are allowed to only work day shift. Call it whatever you want. There are several girls that come for just a few hours and disappear. These are usually the real hot ones, but you probably do not talk to these girls. They would never put of with silly games, and not willing to spend any money. I am sure you are talking to the girls on day shift girls that are desperate and tell you what you want to here. You real need to actually have sex and get a life.

[Dcrist0527]

How do you think I know so much about the inner workings of HK? These putas tell me everything, along with a couple staff members. Oh the irony. Hey, Clammy. Why wasn't this disclosed earlier? I know for some warped reason, that is uber important to you. So very curious why that wasn't disclosed.

It's also comical how you apparently befriend the honest girls and staff members. But deride any other members who report what they are told.

That's why, Clammy, people don't take you seriously. Well, that along with your 5% accuracy rate and your very odd obsession of denying a quota or scale when it's been proven time and again.

[ClamSlammer]

You hang on this supposed lie. I can't even follow your logic about how you think you busted me. Because I didn't disclose an acquaintance prior to making a statement? Wtf does that reveal? Now I should disclose names of my childhood pets?

I suppose your tact is the best you can come up with. But please quit taxing your brain so much. Your drivel does not matter that much to me.I clearly busted you on your lie. If a HK manager were to come on here, and it could be proven that it was really him, and he wrote that either quotas do or do not exist, it would be the end of the argument. Because he would be the supreme authority on whether one existed or not. Chicas would be a supreme authority as well since a supposed quota would greatly affect their income, thus it would be almost impossible for them to not know if one existed.

You claim that the supreme authority, a HK manager, confirmed with you that a sliding ficha quota existed, well before the debate started on this board. If that was true, you would have stated that from the beginning. Instead, you waited two weeks into the argument to make up that lie. So obvious. So let me post another example:

Supposed you owned a McDonald's restaurant for 10 years, so you know just about everything there is to know about McDonald's. Then a debate comes up on this board regarding whether McDonald's uses fresh or frozen beef patties. When you join the debate, you would immediately bring up the fact that you owned a McDonald's. You wouldn't wait until two weeks into the argument and say "well, I owned a McDonald's so I know. " Because of the timing, you lose total credibility. No one is going to believe you.

Same thing here. If you really had a HK manager confirm with you, then you would have stated that from the beginning. Instead, you waited two weeks, after I consistently destroyed you with facts. You were clearly soundly defeated, so you made up a desperate lie that you confirmed it with a HK manager. LOL! Too late buddy.

So consider this:

1. Putas are afforded great flexibility on when they cash in their fichas. Daily, weekly, monthly, management does not care when. The longer the better for them, since fichas can eventually be lost over time and never cashed in.

2. The lowest time increment that fichas are cashed in is daily. Therefore, if a quota exists, it must be daily. You can't have a weekly quota and allow chicas to cash in daily, because you wouldn't know at which rate to cash out.

3. So if there exists a quota, it absolutely must be daily. Yet putas don't always cash in daily. Sometimes they wait weeks. Therefore, a quota cannot exist.

4. At least 30 HK putas have confirmed with me that no quota exists. None have said there is a quota.

5. You, nor anybody else, has ever posted a shred of evidence regarding a quota. If there is a sliding scale quota, it must be posted somewhere for the putas to review. So ask your putas to snap a photo of the quota rules and post it on this board.

6. Mongers that believe a quota exists, all belong in the same category. They daydream about what it would be like to be a HK manager. Then think about what type of quotas they would enact. To satisfy some internal need to feel smart. So they think of all these formulas, which would be the most profitable, efficient, etc. But these are all fantasies. Then they post these idiotic fantasies on this board, somehow unable to differentiate fantasy from reality. Dcrist, you are a prime example.

BTW to the confused monger who insists I only talk to day shift putas, I haven't stepped foot into HK before 8 pm in 3-4 years. And maybe a total of 5 times in the past 10 years. Look at all my past reports. In the first sentence I usually state about what time I get to the Zona. Find one where I state I got there before 8 pm. On average, when I go I usually arrive after 10 pm. So what factual basis does this delusional monger have to justify saying I only talk to day shift putas? None.

And I never stated that top performers at HK aren't treated differently. They are. My contention was to correct Dramafree's erroneous contention that every top performer in every business in every industry in every corner of the globe "always" receives "perks and compensation" that others do not, which is clearly false.

[DramaFree11]

Oh the irony. Hey, Clammy. Why wasn't this disclosed earlier? I know for some warped reason, that is uber important to you. So very curious why that wasn't disclosed.

It's also comical how you apparently befriend the honest girls and staff members. But deride any other members who report what they are told.

That's why, Clammy, people don't take you seriously. Well, that along with your 5% accuracy rate and your very odd obsession of denying a quota or scale when it's been proven time and again.I would say 3-5% accuracy is being kind.

[ScatManDoo]

Oh the irony. Hey, Clammy. Why wasn't this disclosed earlier? I know for some warped reason, that is uber important to you. So very curious why that wasn't disclosed.

It's also comical how you apparently befriend the honest girls and staff members. But deride any other members who report what they are told.

That's why, Clammy, people don't take you seriously. Well, that along with your 5% accuracy rate and your very odd obsession of denying a quota or scale when it's been proven time and again.
I would say 3-5% accuracy is being kind.No. Clammy is correct a good solid one quarter of the time.

Give him the proper respect.

[Scbb1]

You would be better off anticipating 6 to 7 months wait as the Trump administration takes it's final incompetent steps in setting up to keep the vaccine's delivery in the states to be slower than other industrialized nations.If you are referring to operation warp speed that Trump initiated, there are not just 1 but 2 vaccines being distributed right now. Over 10 million Americans will be vaccinated by the end of the year. Unlike the H1 N1 vaccine under the Obama administration where only 27% was ever distributed to Americans.

[Baxter Slade]

If you are referring to operation warp speed that Trump initiated, there are not just 1 but 2 vaccines being distributed right now. Over 10 million Americans will be vaccinated by the end of the year. Unlike the H1 N1 vaccine under the Obama administration where only 27% was ever distributed to Americans.Incompetent, SCAT? Not so fast.

[ScatManDoo]

Here is the difference between myself and others that actual are with real womenThey don't have the significant and growing latex burn areas on their private parts?

[DramaFree11]

I clearly busted you on your lie. If a HK manager were to come on here, and it could be proven that it was really him, and he wrote that either quotas do or do not exist, it would be the end of the argument. Because he would be the supreme authority on whether one existed or not. Chicas would be a supreme authority as well since a supposed quota would greatly affect their income, thus it would be almost impossible for them to not know if one existed.

You claim that the supreme authority, a HK manager, confirmed with you that a sliding ficha quota existed, well before the debate started on this board. If that was true, you would have stated that from the beginning. Instead, you waited two weeks into the argument to make up that lie. So obvious. So let me post another example:

Supposed you owned a McDonald's restaurant for 10 years, so you know just about everything there is to know about McDonald's. Then a debate comes up on this board regarding whether McDonald's uses fresh or frozen beef patties. When you join the debate, you would immediately bring up the fact that you owned a McDonald's. You wouldn't wait until two weeks into the argument and say "well, I owned a McDonald's so I know. " Because of the timing, you lose total credibility. No one is going to believe you.

Same thing here. If you really had a HK manager confirm with you, then you would have stated that from the beginning. Instead, you waited two weeks, after I consistently destroyed you with facts. You were clearly soundly defeated, so you made up a desperate lie that you confirmed it with a HK manager. LOL! Too late buddy.

So consider this:

1. Putas are afforded great flexibility on when they cash in their fichas. Daily, weekly, monthly, management does not care when. The longer the better for them, since fichas can eventually be lost over time and never cashed in.Dr. Clam. It sounds like you're writing your thesis on how to run HK. Once you finish your PhD, I'm sure HK will give you a job as a manager, or as a consultant. Then you will be quickly fired for incompetence.

[CuriousHat]

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[ClamSlammer]

Well, that along with your 5% accuracy rate and your very odd obsession of denying a quota or scale when it's been proven time and again.My accuracy rate sits at exactly 100%. And it's been "proven time and again?" LOL! Show me the proof! I will buy every monger that's posted here in 2020 a half hour session with a HK puta of their choice if Dcrist can direct me to the proof of a sliding scale ficha quota has been posted.

[DramaFree11]

My accuracy rate sits at exactly 100%. And it's been "proven time and again?" LOL! Show me the proof! I will buy every monger that's posted here in 2020 a half hour session with a HK puta of their choice if Dcrist can direct me to the proof of a sliding scale ficha quota has been posted.I am bored out of my mind, normally I would be in Moscow, banging hot chicks, something Dr. Clam knows nothing about, but I am with family and I am thankful for that.

Here is the bottom line there is a sliding scale, the scale it is very loosely enforced. It is probably not being enforced at the moment, due to the Pandemic, HK, is probably happy that any girls are working at the moment. HK is great nothing in Latin America or Europe even comes close, who cares how the get paid.

[Ctytek]

You should really find something better to do with your time, than writing pages and pages of pointless drivel on a mongering website. Proving some points that no one cares about, and no one will read.

Just sayin'.


I clearly busted you on your lie. If a HK manager were to come on here, and it could be proven that it was really him, and he wrote that either quotas do or do not exist <blah blah blah>

[Baxter Slade]

My accuracy rate sits at exactly 100%. And it's been "proven time and again?" LOL! Show me the proof! I will buy every monger that's posted here in 2020 a half hour session with a HK puta of their choice if Dcrist can direct me to the proof of a sliding scale ficha quota has been posted.And we get to pick the girl, that's great. Whenever I offer to buy an amigo a chica the stipulation is I get to pick.

Come on Dorist in the name of free pussy, get to work!

[Captain Solo]

We should keep our minds open, that if something is way above our levels of knowledge and skills, it does not mean it 's impossible, does not exist, or cannot be achieved by others.

Posted information should be proved or disproved with facts, evidences, witnesses, and not argued endlessly with just one's personal opinions.

A sage once said, "Opinions are like assholes; every one has one!" Indeed, opinions without solid backup evidence are just as ugly and offensive as assholes. Anyone who thinks his own opinions are of higher values than others, are laughed at as fools.

[Jinxx]

They don't have the significant and growing latex burn areas on their private parts?For people who have adverse reaction to latex I always recommend "Skyn" brand non-latex condoms.

[ScatManDoo]

It's also comical how you apparently befriend the honest girls and staff members. But deride any other members who report what they are told.

That's why, Clammy, people don't take you seriously. Well, that along with your 5% accuracy rate and your very odd obsession of denying a quota or scale when it's been proven time and again.
My accuracy rate sits at exactly 100%. And it's been "proven time and again?" LOL! Show me the proof! I will buy every monger that's posted here in 2020 a half hour session with a HK puta of their choice if Dcrist can direct me to the proof of a sliding scale ficha quota has been posted.The Hong Kong thread has between 40 to 100 reports of our members getting confirmation from chicas that HK has a ficha quota.

Were you not able to read them?

[Jinxx]

The Hong Kong thread has between 40 to 100 reports of our members getting confirmation from chicas that HK has a ficha quota.

Were you not able to read them?I've heard reports that rudy giuliani has in his possession a stack of written and sworn affidavits from said HK chicas. So if that's not pure solid evidence then I don't know what is.

[DramaFree11]

I've heard reports that rudy giuliani has in his possession a stack of written and sworn affidavits from said HK chicas. So if that's not pure solid evidence then I don't know what is.Too funny.

[DramaFree11]

The Hong Kong thread has between 40 to 100 reports of our members getting confirmation from chicas that HK has a ficha quota.

Were you not able to read them?I am sure there are much posts talking about the subject, but that is to easy and requires logic.

[Dcrist0527]

The Hong Kong thread has between 40 to 100 reports of our members getting confirmation from chicas that HK has a ficha quota.

Were you not able to read them?Such a tired topic already. But many months ago, Clammy made the claim that it doesn't exist. If he had any credibility and I thought he'd make good on his bet, I'd try to find some method to prove it. But I'm guessing this is just among the 95% of BS he spews.

Scat, you are right. And there is evidence everywhere. The bucket requirement reported sporadically by many mongers. The door man tracking ins and outs. (Still haven't heard Clammy give a good excuse for that one.) But here's the kicker. Clammy seems to know the ins and outs and what a money machine HK is. But he fails to recognize that HK makes little to no money on an arriba. If I go stay at HK on a Mon and Tues. Let's say I do four chicas each day. What did they make? 20% of their posted hotel rate? Not exactly the money making machine.

Someone said it and forgive me for not giving credit to or remembering the author. It's Mexico. It's enforced about as much as anything in Mexico. But it would be foolish not to have something in place. HK knows which girls produce fichas and which ones don't. If you think they track it without reason, that's just foolish.

But really, who cares! Laughing at Clammy passes the time between my visits. But this comedy has run its course ten times over. At this point, there's a certain sadness in me when I read the novels about this topic from our beloved king of Mexican strip joints.

[DramaFree11]

Such a tired topic already. But many months ago, Clammy made the claim that it doesn't exist. If he had any credibility and I thought he'd make good on his bet, I'd try to find some method to prove it. But I'm guessing this is just among the 95% of BS he spews.

Scat, you are right. And there is evidence everywhere. The bucket requirement reported sporadically by many mongers. The door man tracking ins and outs. (Still haven't heard Clammy give a good excuse for that one.) But here's the kicker. Clammy seems to know the ins and outs and what a money machine HK is. But he fails to recognize that HK makes little to no money on an arriba. If I go stay at HK on a Mon and Tues. Let's say I do four chicas each day. What did they make? 20% of their posted hotel rate? Not exactly the money making machine.

Someone said it and forgive me for not giving credit to or remembering the author. It's Mexico. It's enforced about as much as anything in Mexico. But it would be foolish not to have something in place. HK knows which girls produce fichas and which ones don't. If you think they track it without reason, that's just foolish.

But really, who cares! Laughing at Clammy passes the time between my visits. But this comedy has run its course ten times over. At this point, there's a certain sadness in me when I read the novels about this topic from our beloved king of Mexican strip joints.Yep, I think everyone is bored at the moment. My boredom stops tomorrow, off to MTY. I would have went to Tijuana or Russia, but too risky to fly, I can not take the risk of getting stuck some where for a couple of months. I can drive to MTY, makes for a much better trip. I can avoid the airlines all together now.

[Ctytek]

Yep, I think everyone is bored at the moment. My boredom stops tomorrow, off to MTY. I would have went to Tijuana or Russia, but too risky to fly, I can not take the risk of getting stuck some where for a couple of months. I can drive to MTY, makes for a much better trip. I can avoid the airlines all together now.Driving for hundreds of miles through cartel-controlled Mexico countryside. Now that sounds like a safe and worry free way to travel. I mean, what can possibly go wrong?

[Member #4722]

I have no idea of the inner workings of HK but I'm #TeamClammy all the way because I know this fool DramaFree from his trolling of the Kiev forum for years just because some Ukrainian woman dumped him LOL (his words hahaha). This guy pumps himself up all the time but he's obviously teetering back and forth between reality and fantasy land.

[Member #4722]

Even if Clammy straight out lied he's still a better forum member than DramaFree, who brags about helping other mongers but has yet to ever name a name of any woman he's ever been with. Anyone can make up lies on a forum. Maybe that's why he never mentions names. Hmmmmmmmmm.

[Dcrist0527]

Yep, I think everyone is bored at the moment. My boredom stops tomorrow, off to MTY. I would have went to Tijuana or Russia, but too risky to fly, I can not take the risk of getting stuck some where for a couple of months. I can drive to MTY, makes for a much better trip. I can avoid the airlines all together now.Enjoy MTY! And thanks for upping my anxiety levels. LOL I'm flying later this week. I know there's risk and I enjoy my time in Tijuana. But I can't imagine being stuck there for months. I'm assuming the absolute worst thing that can happen is a shutdown of air travel on a large scale. While the thought of having to drive cross-country for days is scary, it is not frightening enough to keep me from going.

Signed, a monger addict. LOL.

[Dickus Maximus]

...but has yet to ever name a name of any woman he's ever been with...You pay attention to their names?

[Jinxx]

Such a tired topic already. But many months ago, Clammy made the claim that it doesn't exist. If he had any credibility and I thought he'd make good on his bet, I'd try to find some method to prove it. But I'm guessing this is just among the 95% of BS he spews.

Scat, you are right. And there is evidence everywhere. The bucket requirement reported sporadically by many mongers. The door man tracking ins and outs. (Still haven't heard Clammy give a good excuse for that one.) But here's the kicker. Clammy seems to know the ins and outs and what a money machine HK is. But he fails to recognize that HK makes little to no money on an arriba. If I go stay at HK on a Mon and Tues. Let's say I do four chicas each day. What did they make? 20% of their posted hotel rate? Not exactly the money making machine.

Someone said it and forgive me for not giving credit to or remembering the author. It's Mexico. It's enforced about as much as anything in Mexico. But it would be foolish not to have something in place. HK knows which girls produce fichas and which ones don't. If you think they track it without reason, that's just foolish.

But really, who cares! Laughing at Clammy passes the time between my visits. But this comedy has run its course ten times over. At this point, there's a certain sadness in me when I read the novels about this topic from our beloved king of Mexican strip joints.From what I can tell you guys don't even necessarily disagree.

Does their exist a strictly tracked strictly enforced ficha quota system that scans bar codes and outputs an excel spreadsheet mathematical formula to the data cloud in real time to determine a chica's pay? I think everyone agrees that's not the case.

Do managers and meseros pressure chicas to sell more fichas and therefore show favor to their "top producers"? Obviously they would as that's how they make more money. But an actual mathematical quantifiable quota system seems highly unlikely, if not logistically impossible.

[Dcrist0527]

From what I can tell you guys don't even necessarily disagree.

Does their exist a strictly tracked strictly enforced ficha quota system that scans bar codes and outputs an excel spreadsheet mathematical formula to the data cloud in real time to determine a chica's pay? I think everyone agrees that's not the case.

Do managers and meseros pressure chicas to sell more fichas and therefore show favor to their "top producers"? Obviously they would as that's how they make more money. But an actual mathematical quantifiable quota system seems highly unlikely, if not logistically impossible.If this whole career as a monger doesn't pan out, I think Jinx would make a phenomenal federal mediator. LOL.

I'm on board with how you summarized it. Perhaps the lack of uniform enforcement is what causes some to break out in hives when it is called a quota. I am certain that chicas are not fired the first time their number of arribas and number of fichas are out of whack. But it is tracked for a reason. Like any business, HK knows who is an asset and who is a drain.

[Baxter Slade]

Driving for hundreds of miles through cartel-controlled Mexico countryside. Now that sounds like a safe and worry free way to travel. I mean, what can possibly go wrong?Don't you worry about Drama free he has never left his mom's basement.

[DramaFree11]

Even if Clammy straight out lied he's still a better forum member than DramaFree, who brags about helping other mongers but has yet to ever name a name of any woman he's ever been with. Anyone can make up lies on a forum. Maybe that's why he never mentions names. Hmmmmmmmmm.As usual you are lying. Trolling you might want to read your posts. At least Dr. Clam actually goes to Tijuana. You are consistent you write about zero girls in both places. Zero posts about girls, but I am sure you have an excuse for this like everything else or you have some crazy ass formula claiming you are with 9's every night like you buddies in Kiev. Not possible, but you kept the lies and exaggeration alive.

Notice I no longer post on the Kiev page, the new guys are great and honest. They actually go there, maybe you have been there once or twice. I tell guys to go to Moscow or parts of Mexico. You tell guys to go to Kiev. Kiev sucks and you know it.

[DramaFree11]

Enjoy MTY! And thanks for upping my anxiety levels. LOL I'm flying later this week. I know there's risk and I enjoy my time in Tijuana. But I can't imagine being stuck there for months. I'm assuming the absolute worst thing that can happen is a shutdown of air travel on a large scale. While the thought of having to drive cross-country for days is scary, it is not frightening enough to keep me from going.

Signed, a monger addict. LOL.I am here now and having a great time.

[DramaFree11]

Even if Clammy straight out lied he's still a better forum member than DramaFree, who brags about helping other mongers but has yet to ever name a name of any woman he's ever been with. Anyone can make up lies on a forum. Maybe that's why he never mentions names. Hmmmmmmmmm.Just one report about and actual girl or even a good restaurant, but that would require actual going to the destination you claim too know so much about.

[ClamSlammer]

The difference between me and my detractors is that I respond directly to what my detractors write, and with facts, logic, and most importantly evidence, unravel their arguments to the very core. My detractors cannot disprove a single thing I write. Therefore, they fabricate things I never said and argue against me that way. Here are some recent examples:


I am sure you are talking to the girls on day shift.
Got to Zona around 8 pm. First stop was The Club. Was slightly busier...
Got to Zona at around 9:30 pm. First stop was Jalos. Talent was sparse...
Got to Zona at 10 pm. All clubs still closed. First stop was Jalos...
I was in the Zona Monday night until 5 am Tuesday morning...
Hit the Zona Saturday night around 9 pm. First stop was AB. They were enforcing...
Hadn't been to the Zona in months...Arrived at about 8 pm on Thursday..He's "sure" I'm talking to the day shift girls? I haven't seen the Zona during daylight in 3-4 years. I'm a late night monger. Read my TR's in the General Reports subforum. I start off with what time I arrived in the Zona. And it's always night shift. So DramaFree is 100% wrong here.


Top Performer in any business always get perks and compensation that other do not.
Absolutely, positively, 100% false. There's many businesses where top performers are treated exactly the same as other employees...If you had replaced the word "always" with "sometimes" your statement would be accurate. But as you wrote it, it is undoubtedly false.
why are some girls allowed to just work Weekend night shift, while other are allowed to only work day shift. Call it whatever you want. There are several girls that come for just a few hours and disappear.Dramafree erroneously thinks that ClamSlammer disputes the fact that some HK putas receive preferential treatment. ClamSlammer never said anything of that sort. ClamSlammer merely corrected DramaFree's false statement. Dramafree is 100% wrong here, again.


Clammy made the claim that it doesn't exist. If he had any credibility and I thought he'd make good on his bet, I'd try to find some method to prove it.Can anyone deny that the opportunity to prove me wrong and humiliate me isn't sufficient motivation? He won't try to prove it because he knows he is lying. He claims he is BFF's with HK manager, who supposedly confirmed the existence of a sliding scale ficha quota (SSFQ.) So why doesn't DayDreamerCrist just text his buddy and ask for some proof, so he can post it here and shut me up while making me pay out bigtime, buying putas for every poster?


Scat, you are right. And there is evidence everywhere.
Do I believe there is a hard rule about how many drinks a woman has to sell in a shift, or even a week? No...But I do know that girls have every incentive to tell guys that they have a hard quota, so that guys will buy more drinks. And every time a girl tells some guy she has a quota, that quota is ludicrously impossible. I've heard 500 drinks a week, or 100 a week, or 20 a shift. And then you see the scores of girls who line the club who stand there for hours upon hours and never sit with a guy and you realize that there's no way the vast majority of the girls would meet any kind of quota.
an actual mathematical quantifiable quota system seems highly unlikely, if not logistically impossible.Apparently DayDreamerCrist and Scatman don't know the definition of "evidence. " he earlier proved that he doesn't know the definition of "sanction" so this is not the first time he's debated on a topic while not knowing what it means. This is where the education gap between myself and them becomes glaringly evident. They don't know the difference between hearsay and evidence. Scatman thinks there were "40-100" reports portraying "evidence" of a FQ / SSFQ when in fact there are none. There may be 100 posts claiming there is a quota, but it's the same 3-4 guys repeating that nonsense. There are also posters such as KC Questor and Jinxx who deny the existence of a hard quota. When a puta you are ficha'ing claims there is a quota, hoping you are gullible enough to fall for that bullshit, and you report it on here, that is hearsay, not evidence.

There was some fool on here a few months ago claiming that a HK puta told him that there is a $300 usd stage fee to work there. And that it must be true because management needs that revenue to pay salaries to all the meseros! So DayDreamer and Scatman must consider that "evidence" of a $300 usd stage fee and meseros receiving salary. The rest of us consider that hearsay bullshit.


And there is no "sanctioning". They just don't get paid as much.Sanction sanc·tion /712;saNG (k) SH (601 and / Definition: "a threatened penalty for disobeying a law or rule."

DayDreamerCrist claims that a reduction in pay for not meeting a quota is not a sanction! That's the very definition!


The door man tracking ins and outs. (Still haven't heard Clammy give a good excuse for that one.)I specifically addressed the clipboard guy no less than 3 times as evidenced by the quotes below. So DayDreamerCrist is absolutely 100% wrong here.


The clipboard guys keep track of the putas because they must work 8 hour shifts Sun-Wed and 9 hour shifts Thur-Sat. They don't want the putas leaving early. Of course management keeps track of where their putas are. Many putas are bored when it is slow and they just want to go home.
That is true, they keep track of the ins and outs of the putas. But that doesn't mean they keep track for the purpose of calculating a sliding ficha quota.

You see, they only keep casual track of putas that go arriba. The clipboard guy only writes the puta's stage name and time of departure. That's it. And you know what, there are multiple chicas that use the same name. Putas are not assigned a unique number or name. Just a generic name they choose that may be used by another puta as well. There's more than one Kenia, Dana, Carla, Candy, Megan. And so on. So they don't even keep a proper accounting how many times a puta goes up. So how do they enact a sliding scale quota? They don't.Maybe these guys can learn from my posts exactly what "evidence" is. Evidence is exactly what I am quoting to prove them wrong, time and time again.


Clammy seems to know the ins and outs and what a money machine HK is. But he fails to recognize that HK makes little to no money on an arriba. If I go stay at HK on a Mon and Tues. Let's say I do four chicas each day. What did they make? 20% of their posted hotel rate? Not exactly the money making machine.
When putas go arriba, HK makes nothing if the monger has an overnight room. HK only makes a little if a short-term room is rented. Management wants arriba prices high so putas spend more time on the floor selling drinks.As expected, DayDreamerCrist just makes up lies out of thin air. Again, my quote below proves him 100% wrong, again. He must be trying to break a record. He's wrong on his math too. If he already has rented an overnight room for presumably 30% of regular price due to VIP discount, HK will make 0% not 20% of their posted hotel rate if he takes a chica arriba. The hotel cost is a sunk cost. Cascadas / HK will not make a penny more for any chicas he takes upstairs.

[ClamSlammer]

You should really find something better to do with your time, than writing pages and pages of pointless drivel on a mongering website. Proving some points that no one cares about, and no one will read.The topic being discussed is generating interest and responses. So Ctyek, like everyone else who takes shots at me, is 100% wrong.


And we get to pick the girl, that's great. Whenever I offer to buy an amigo a chica the stipulation is I get to pick. Come on Dorist in the name of free pussy, get to work!Don't hold your breath amigo, obviously he has no proof and the claim that he confirmed with a HK manager is obviously a lie. If he really was friends with a HK manager, he could easily post evidence here and prove me wrong. But he can't.


Even if Clammy straight out lied he's still a better forum member than DramaFreeI've never lied on this forum. I've never daydreamed about what I would do if I was HK manager and then reported my daydreams as fact. I never claimed I confirmed those daydreams with a mythical BFF HK manager then refused to post easily obtainable proof.


If this whole career as a monger doesn't pan out, I think Jinx would make a phenomenal federal mediator. I'm on board with how you summarized it.Jinxx just specifically stated: "an actual mathematical quantifiable quota system seems highly unlikely, if not logistically impossible."

So DayDreamerCrist is adamant that a sliding scale ficha quota exists, yet he agrees with Jinxx's statement that a quota is "logistically impossible." That my friends, is a contradiction.

[LuvMexicanas]

Driving for hundreds of miles through cartel-controlled Mexico countryside. Now that sounds like a safe and worry free way to travel. I mean, what can possibly go wrong?Dramaqueen looks for any excuse to bring up Monterrey in the Tijuana threads because of loneliness. There's little action on the Monterrey thread so he has to bring it up here.

[LuvMexicanas]

Don't you worry about Drama free he has never left his mom's basement.Hilarious and I suspect totally accurate and on point. Been rolling around the Zona and fringes the last couple days. Found the two spots you mentioned (Rio Verde and Bar Reno), but both looked closed.

[Member #4722]

Ugh except for all the reports I've posted about at least 80% of the ladies I've been with while traveling for this hobby. Your lie can be disproven by a simple search of my user name. I haven't been able to travel like normal during the global pandemic thing that's going on. Didn't you say that you gave your parents covid after a mongering trip? Real responsible buddy.

We are all paying for pussy here. Just because you pay for the most pussy doesn't make you the biggest stud LOL.

[Dcrist0527]

The topic being discussed is generating interest and responses. So Ctyek, like everyone else who takes shots at me, is 100% wrong.

Don't hold your breath amigo, obviously he has no proof and the claim that he confirmed with a HK manager is obviously a lie. If he really was friends with a HK manager, he could easily post evidence here and prove me wrong. But he can't.

I've never lied on this forum. I've never daydreamed about what I would do if I was HK manager and then reported my daydreams as fact. I never claimed I confirmed those daydreams with a mythical BFF HK manager then refused to post easily obtainable proof.

Jinxx just specifically stated: "an actual mathematical quantifiable quota system seems highly unlikely, if not logistically impossible."

So DayDreamerCrist is adamant that a sliding scale ficha quota exists, yet he agrees with Jinxx's statement that a quota is "logistically impossible." That my friends, is a contradiction.The time you put in to this topic is strangely admirable. In the same way I admire the violinist playing as the Titanic sunk.

Proving it to you is impossible. You have no interest in evidence. You get off on claiming 100% accuracy and bragging how all the putas throw themselves at your feet, begging you to satisfy their sexual needs. For free. (That alone highlights how little you know about working girls, or just women in general. The last thing on their minds after getting plowed by 4 guys is, gee, I need a Clamslammer. LMAO).

Facts are not on your side, which is why you exaggerate. I never claimed this manager was my BFF. We had a few beers at Malquerida and we have stayed in touch. We've hung out a few times. BFF? No.

You lack the intelligence to understand the nuance of Jinx's point. Therefore, continuing the conversation about this is useless. You mention your detractors but fail to realize how many there are.

I do need to thank you for the nickname, Clammy. Best of luck with those free putas you have to chase away with a stick.

Happy new year to all others.

[DramaFree11]

Ugh except for all the reports I've posted about at least 80% of the ladies I've been with while traveling for this hobby. Your lie can be disproven by a simple search of my user name. I haven't been able to travel like normal during the global pandemic thing that's going on. Didn't you say that you gave your parents covid after a mongering trip? Real responsible buddy.

We are all paying for pussy here. Just because you pay for the most pussy doesn't make you the biggest stud LOL.As ususal you are wrong and have excuses.

I got sick and the beginning of the Virus, before anyone knew what was going on. I met them in Vegas in l March, that is when hell started, I would never do anything like that. I was not sick when I left for Vegas. You real need to get life. At least Dr. Clam actually talks to girls. You can keep calling me names and making stuff up. I am actually in MTY with girls, something you know nothing about. Just like the fantasy world you and your buddies created on the other page. I forgot you and others were called out by another member for not traveling to Kiev.

[DramaFree11]

Dramaqueen looks for any excuse to bring up Monterrey in the Tijuana threads because of loneliness. There's little action on the Monterrey thread so he has to bring it up here.Ok, whatever you say.

[Jinxx]

Dramaqueen looks for any excuse to bring up Monterrey in the Tijuana threads because of loneliness. There's little action on the Monterrey thread so he has to bring it up here.Ask him to tell you about "El Matehuala". 😁.

[DramaFree11]

Ask him to tell you about "El Matehuala"..Killing on SA, no need to go to those places, but thanks for the idea.

[ClamSlammer]

Proving it to you is impossible. You have no interest in evidence.Another lie. I have asked you for evidence multiple times. And you have come up with absolutely nothing. Why is that?


You get off on claiming 100% accuracy.Not one person on this board can point out one of my posts where I was factually wrong. You on the other hand, I specifically pointed out how you were dead wrong 7-8 times in my last two posts. Did you even try contesting those points? No, because you can't.


Facts are not on your side, which is why you exaggerate. I never claimed this manager was my BFF. We had a few beers at Malquerida and we have stayed in touch. We've hung out a few times. BFF? No.LOL! Obviously the "BFF" was an exaggeration, an attempt to add additional ridicule and humor. So the only point of mine you address is the BFF part, because my other points which prove you being 100% dead wrong you can't deny.


You lack the intelligence to understand the nuance of Jinx's point.You've proven, without any doubt in black and white, that you don't know the definitions of the topics you are debating. I've pointed out where you clearly don't know what the words "sanctioning" and "evidence" mean. It anyone lacks intelligence, it is clearly you.

I'm going to go on the record and offer 1 puta of the monger's choice, every calendar week, from HK or any Zona Norte establishment, for the entirely of 2021, a total of 52 sessions, half hour each, to any monger who can provide a plausible explanation of how DayDreamerCrist didn't contradict himself in the following series of posts:


Call it what you want. Quota. Threshold. Multiplier. But there is a tie between the number of arribas and the payout of fichas.
an actual mathematical quantifiable quota system seems highly unlikely, if not logistically impossible.
I think Jinx would make a phenomenal federal mediator...I'm on board with how you summarized it.

[ScatManDoo]

Now, I just hope I have immunity for 4 months and then I get the vaccine. Light at the end of the tunnel, boys.
You would be better off anticipating 6 to 7 months wait as the Trump administration takes it's final incompetent steps in setting up to keep the vaccine's delivery in the states to be slower than other industrialized nations.
If you are referring to operation warp speed that Trump initiated, there are not just 1 but 2 vaccines being distributed right now. Over 10 million Americans will be vaccinated by the end of the year. Unlike the H1 N1 vaccine under the Obama administration where only 27% was ever distributed to Americans.Scbb1 wins the 2020 award as the poorest informed Trump supporter on this board.

You actually wrote your nonsense as recently as yesterday?

The Trump administration has just 2 and one half days to vaccinate the remaining 8 to 18 million people they could have vaccinated in a competent fashion before year end. If they only had competency!

US has given 2 million Americans their first vaccine doses when it had planned to administer 20 million by the end of the year.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9096267/US-given-2-million-Americans-vaccine-doses.html

[Dogers69]

Thank you Jinxx; that is very reassuring. I have a few final questions:

1) Is there hot chicas to be had in HK in late afternoon? (around check in time to cascadas) I like to get there early to make the most out of the day.

2) Is HK now entirely on the 7th floor, or does it move there at a certain time? Is this the "cramped hallway" people are speaking of?

3) Is there a way to cross the border (Ped east, walking) without having to pay $30? Could I just say I have a Dr. S appointment? I don't drive in Tijuana.

4) Also is HK still accepting the coupons on their website?

Thank you for all your help.Your odds of getting into Mexico not paying money are slim to none. You could walk in otay line don't look at the person in eyes, if they stop you, say your going to dentist. You will need proof and it needs to be in the morning as dentist won't be open new years day. Otay only has one line so to do this at san Ysidro. Essentially you would have to walking the Mexican line, and act stupid if checked. If you have a bag and don't look Mexican expect to be stopped. So, if you show the passport, either its free, if they believe dental appointment, or its 30 bucks, or they could say no go. You could also state you left passport home, pay 20. To go for 1 day. There's no paperwork. And maybe they won't let you do this. If it fails at one border go to the next.

[Jinxx]

Killing on SA, no need to go to those places, but thanks for the idea.I've noticed quite a few guys use SA in Tijuana. How would you compare SA Tijuana to SA Monterrey?

And for anybody who might be wondering, El Matehuala is a big working class puta strip club in Monterrey. Super raunchy and super raw. Most Monterrey locals wouldn't be caught dead in that place in a million years. But me, well, that's where I spend 90% of my time when I'm in Mty. It's one of my favorite places I've ever been to. 😁

[Member #4722]

I've noticed quite a few guys use SA in Tijuana. How would you compare SA Tijuana to SA Monterrey?

And for anybody who might be wondering, El Matehuala is a big working class puta strip club in Monterrey. Super raunchy and super raw. Most Monterrey locals wouldn't be caught dead in that place in a million years. But me, well, that's where I spend 90% of my time when I'm in Mty. It's one of my favorite places I've ever been to. 😁Sounds like my kinda place. From description it sounds like La Boca in Panama City. I was the only gringo there the entire week I visited.

[DramaFree11]

I've noticed quite a few guys use SA in Tijuana. How would you compare SA Tijuana to SA Monterrey?

And for anybody who might be wondering, El Matehuala is a big working class puta strip club in Monterrey. Super raunchy and super raw. Most Monterrey locals wouldn't be caught dead in that place in a million years. But me, well, that's where I spend 90% of my time when I'm in Mty. It's one of my favorite places I've ever been to.Thanks for the tip, I will definitely check it out when things get back to normal. I did not have good luck with SA in Tijuana, it was okay in GDL. Mexico City it was above average and MTY is a whole different level.

[Baxter Slade]

Hilarious and I suspect totally accurate and on point. Been rolling around the Zona and fringes the last couple days. Found the two spots you mentioned (Rio Verde and Bar Reno), but both looked closed.Rio verde can be fun. On the other hand never go to Bar Reno in hopes of meeting chicas. The only reason to go there is the surreal feeling of stumbling into a bad movie.

Unfortunatly for now our only choices are the speakeasies. There is the club in hotel Korea which provides discounted beers and fichas. But it is pretty dead early in the evening , try around 4 am.

[Ctytek]

And for anybody who might be wondering, El Matehuala is a big working class puta strip club in Monterrey. Super raunchy and super raw. Most Monterrey locals wouldn't be caught dead in that place in a million yearsWorking class puta strip club, but the local wouldn't be caught dead there? Who goes there then?

Never been to MTY, but sounds fascinating.

[ClamSlammer]

In previous years when HK had 100 girls working every weekend...HK still has 30- 40 girls at night on weekend. Adellta has about 20 girls, most not as hot and glammy as HK'sI like the Captain, in my opinion he writes the most colorful, entertaining posts on this board. But please, for goodness sake, pick up a Sesame Street Counting 1-2-3 book and learn how to count! HK pre-covid, on a typical weekend, would have between 400-600 putas. There would be 30 putas in the little Miami section alone. There would be 15 just sitting at the two main bars. Then 20 dancing on the stages and bars. That's 65 putas just in Miami Room and dancing. So according to the Captain, there's only 35 other putas on the floor? Not to mention the chicas in the dressing room, on lunch, cocaine breaks, arriba with mongers.

And right now, Cascadas will have 220-300 chicas. They'll be 45 girls standing in the hallway alone. Plus in each room there's always at least 6 chicas sitting on the jacuzzi ledge, 10 seated at tables, and another 10 standing around. Multiply that by 8 or so rooms. And my numbers are conservative estimates.

And Adelita's will have 20 girls? Try 120. WTF is going on? Are numbers that difficult?

[Phordphan]

The only reason to go there is the surreal feeling of stumbling into a bad movie.LMAO!! Very accurate description, indeed!

[DramaFree11]

Your odds of getting into Mexico not paying money are slim to none. You could walk in otay line don't look at the person in eyes, if they stop you, say your going to dentist. You will need proof and it needs to be in the morning as dentist won't be open new years day. Otay only has one line so to do this at san Ysidro. Essentially you would have to walking the Mexican line, and act stupid if checked. If you have a bag and don't look Mexican expect to be stopped. So, if you show the passport, either its free, if they believe dental appointment, or its 30 bucks, or they could say no go. You could also state you left passport home, pay 20. To go for 1 day. There's no paperwork. And maybe they won't let you do this. If it fails at one border go to the next.I have been walking or driving for months now. I usually do not get a doctors note and normally it is not a problem. It just depends on the agent. They have all the power.

If you are crossing late afternoon early evening tell them you have dental surgery early in the morning. Dr. Note is always a good idea now.

[Jinxx]

Working class puta strip club, but the local wouldn't be caught dead there? Who goes there then?

Never been to MTY, but sounds fascinating.In Monterrey if you bring up el Matehuala in a conversation locals will tell you that's a low class dangerous place. They will look at you like you're crazy if you tell them you hang out there. Yea there are plenty of "locals" hanging out there, but they're not the class of locals a gringo would normally come into contact with. For example Monterrey is a center of business and commerce. Most travelers who end up in Mty strip clubs are in town for work or business unlike Tijuana zona Norte where most guys are in town just for sex tourism not for work or business travel. So if you ask your local Mty contacts where to find hot chicks they're going to direct you to the upscale places, and if you say you want to check out el Matehuala they'll tell you you're crazy.

[ClamSlammer]

From what I can tell you guys don't even necessarily disagree.

Does their exist a strictly tracked strictly enforced ficha quota system that scans bar codes and outputs an excel spreadsheet mathematical formula to the data cloud in real time to determine a chica's pay? I think everyone agrees that's not the case.

Do managers and meseros pressure chicas to sell more fichas and therefore show favor to their "top producers"? Obviously they would as that's how they make more money. But an actual mathematical quantifiable quota system seems highly unlikely, if not logistically impossible.Jinxx, you, like myself, are an educated monger with above average intelligence. We have the ability, when presented with a scenario, to objectively judge the possibilities based on our observations of reality. The more idiotic, absurd the suggestion, the quicker we can dismiss it. You immediately declared that it is impossible for a SSFQ to exist at HK as soon as you entered the discussion. Because you can see reality, and that HK clearly lacks the necessary infrastructure to accurately track each chica's arribas. DaydreamerCrist for some reason thinks the clipboard guy is capable of keeping track of 1000 chica arribas. And that at the end of the week HK management gathers dozens of pages of barely legible chicken scratch from the clipboard guy, and takes hours and hours to match each chica's name to her arriba account. Nevermind that there is no method to uniquely identify each chica, that some share the same name, some change their names, some can use different names. It doesn't matter to DaydreamerCrist.

Remember Hong Kong's slogan? "If you can dream it, it can happen." DaydreamerCrist is taking that way too literally. He is daydreaming about being a HK manager, and how he would implement a SSFQ. Based on his failures in real life, he has an internal need to feel intelligent. And that is why he is inventing a quota, thinking of it as brilliant, then reporting it as fact. Pathetic.

When you say that we "don't even necessarily disagree," that is incorrect. You stated that because you thought there is no possible way anyone could be dumb enough to believe in a SSFQ. Judging from your absence from the discussion until recently, it can be inferred that you were not previously following it. Because indeed, we have a very apparent disagreement. DaydreamerCrist is emphatic that a SSFQ exists, and I am emphatic that it is impossible. After being pummeled by facts and evidence, DaydreamerCrist invented the outlandish claim that he is friends with a HK manager, and that manager confirmed to him that a SSFQ does insist. He didn't bring this up in the beginning, only after he was thoroughly destroyed by yours truly. Obviously a desperate attempt to save his credibility, which failed miserably.

Here are some points that everyone agrees on, that do not require any further discussion:

1. Some putas receive preferential treatment from management.

2. Management has a good idea of who the top earners are. Hell, any regular monger has a good idea too.

3. Management encourages chicas to sell more fichas.

4. DaydreamerCrist and Scatman do not know the difference between "evidence" and "hearsay."

5. DaydreamerCrist does not know the definition of "sanction."

To be continued.

[ClamSlammer]

So Jinxx, allow me to provide a synopsis of the discussion:

1. DaydreamerCrist is insistent that a SSFQ exists, and that he supposedly confirmed it with his HK manager friend, LOL LOL LOL! He claims he has enough influence over this manager that he can obtain complimentary beers. Yet he cannot obtain the slightest iota of proof from his friend.

2. DaydreamerCrist says the more arribas a chica goes, the less the payout of a ficha. He also says that the more arribas a chica goes, the more fichas she must sell. He's not even sure which one it is.

3. DaydreamerCrist has never, to this minute, posted any evidence of a SSFQ.

4. DaydreamerCrist has suggested that chicas that have their arriba / ficha ratio "out of whack" are fired after one reprieve. He has also acknowledged the existence of arriba-only chicas. These chicas couldn't exist under his system.

5. ClamSlammer baited DaydreamerCrist into stating for the record at what interval the quota is calculated. ClamSlammer did so by reminding DaydreamerCrist that chicas often save their fichas for several days or longer. DaydreamerCrist, badly outsmarted, fell haplessly into ClamSlammer's trap and replied "it is calculated weekly. " DaydreamerCrist has acknowledged that chicas have the option to cash in daily if they wish. DaydreamerCrist has refused to answer how the rate of a daily payout can be calculated, without the aid of a time machine, when the official weekly calculation won't be released for 1-6 days in the future.

6. DaydreamerCrist agrees that chicas can cash out fichas for one another. This would surely not be allowed under a SSFQ system.

7. DaydreamerCrist has stated that chicas fool management by claiming that their first arriba of the day they are going to lunch instead of arriba. He thinks that management still falls for that scam after millions of arribas. They can't figure it out.

8. DaydreamerCrist has acknowledged the universally accepted HK ficha value of $34 mx. If a SSFQ existed, the amount would be variable and nobody would mention $34.

Pretty much any one of these points disproves a SSFQ, but you add them all and there is no way one can exist. And these are just the ones I can think off the top of my head.

For some reason, I'm getting the itch to put on a Monkees album. I can't help but sing along now.

"Cheer up sleepy Jean.

Oh what can it mean?

Dcrist is a daydream believer.

And a homecoming queen."

[ClamSlammer]

Ugh except for all the reports I've posted about at least 80% of the ladies I've been with while traveling for this hobby. Your lie can be disproven by a simple search of my user name. I haven't been able to travel like normal during the global pandemic thing that's going on. Didn't you say that you gave your parents covid after a mongering trip? Real responsible buddy.

We are all paying for pussy here. Just because you pay for the most pussy doesn't make you the biggest stud LOL.Rog and LuvMexicanas, I would just like to get your guys opinions on Dramaqueen. I've badly humiliated him a couple times on the Tijuana boards myself, but I don't go on the Kiev or Monterrey forums so my experiences in contrast to yours, is limited. You guys could make a living slapping down Dramaqueen's lies. So what you do think about his credibility in his series of posts:


As I have said before I think it is sliding scale...Notice in the above quote the word "think" which is an indication that in his mind, it is possible, plausible, maybe even probable. But, the important point is that he is not sure, he has no proof.


yes there is sliding scale.
Here is the bottom line there is a sliding scale.Now look at the two above quotes and he is all of a sudden sure there is a sliding scale. How does he go from "not sure" to "definitely" with his credibility intact?

[Dcrist0527]

Let's do an ISG poll: What is more comical:

1 The vast amount of time Clammy spends on this topic when nobody cares?

2 Clammy referring to himself in the 3rd person?

3 Clammy thinking of himself as a diabolic genius, setting traps?

4 Clammy continuing to allow myself, and a few others, to reside rent free in that vapid mind?

5 Clammy numbering his "evidence"?

6 Or Clammy hanging on to his impossible theory that HK doesn't track ficha sales. Just imagine what HK would look like if a chica's only motivation to sell a ficha was $1. 50, when they make $100 on arriba. That's what our dear king of Mexican strip clubs believes. And his proof? Because a highly successful, money machine business can't figure out how to track drink sales. LMAO.


So Jinxx, allow me to provide a synopsis of the discussion:

1. DaydreamerCrist is insistent that a SSFQ exists, and that he supposedly confirmed it with his HK manager friend, LOL LOL LOL! He claims he has enough influence over this manager that he can obtain complimentary beers. Yet he cannot obtain the slightest iota of proof from his friend.

2. DaydreamerCrist says the more arribas a chica goes, the less the payout of a ficha. He also says that the more arribas a chica goes, the more fichas she must sell. He's not even sure which one it is.

3. DaydreamerCrist has never, to this minute, posted any evidence of a SSFQ.

4. DaydreamerCrist has suggested that chicas that have their arriba / ficha ratio "out of whack" are fired after one reprieve. He has also acknowledged the existence of arriba-only chicas. These chicas couldn't exist under his system..

[DramaFree11]

Rog and LuvMexicanas, I would just like to get your guys opinions on Dramaqueen. I've badly humiliated him a couple times on the Tijuana boards myself, but I don't go on the Kiev or Monterrey forums so my experiences in contrast to yours, is limited. You guys could make a living slapping down Dramaqueen's lies. So what you do think about his credibility in his series of posts:

Notice in the above quote the word "think" which is an indication that in his mind, it is possible, plausible, maybe even probable. But, the important point is that he is not sure, he has no proof.

Now look at the two above quotes and he is all of a sudden sure there is a sliding scale. How does he go from "not sure" to "definitely" with his credibility intact?You actually have to get a life. I am actually with girls at the moment in MTY. You forgot Moscow, Colombia and Rio. Have fun.

[LuvMexicanas]

Rog and LuvMexicanas, I would just like to get your guys opinions on Dramaqueen. I've badly humiliated him a couple times on the Tijuana boards myself, but I don't go on the Kiev or Monterrey forums so my experiences in contrast to yours, is limited. You guys could make a living slapping down Dramaqueen's lies. So what you do think about his credibility in his series of posts:

Notice in the above quote the word "think" which is an indication that in his mind, it is possible, plausible, maybe even probable. But, the important point is that he is not sure, he has no proof.

Now look at the two above quotes and he is all of a sudden sure there is a sliding scale. How does he go from "not sure" to "definitely" with his credibility intact?I'm not going to get into fichas because quite frankly I don't care but DQ has credibility issues galore. I think BaxterSlade said it best in response to Ctytek's critical reply to a DQ post: "Don't you worry about (DQ) he has never left his mom's basement". I think DQ has an active imagination which is not necessarily a bad thing unless you're trying to pass off fantasy as fact. However, my primary criticism of DQ is the constant noise like a little barking dog on how he's crushing it in MTY or is currently there having such a great time. If done on the MTY thread, great but that's not the case so why does he continue the barking outside that thread? I can only surmise that it's because he seeks or needs approval and attention from the highest levels, and he knows the Tijuana threads are where the big dawgs roam.

[Member #4722]

Rog and LuvMexicanas, I would just like to get your guys opinions on Dramaqueen. I've badly humiliated him a couple times on the Tijuana boards myself, but I don't go on the Kiev or Monterrey forums so my experiences in contrast to yours, is limited. You guys could make a living slapping down Dramaqueen's lies. So what you do think about his credibility in his series of posts:

Notice in the above quote the word "think" which is an indication that in his mind, it is possible, plausible, maybe even probable. But, the important point is that he is not sure, he has no proof.

Now look at the two above quotes and he is all of a sudden sure there is a sliding scale. How does he go from "not sure" to "definitely" with his credibility intact?If I had the time or inclination I could go through this guys posts and point out hundreds of lies and hypocrisy. He literally went on a years long rant on how anyone traveling to Kiev could only get a girl with 7 looks at best. When we pointed out that a 7 is well above average, he started using 6 as his number for the best anyone could get.

He has no defense of his dribble he will come up with a clich like "I've forgot more about mongering than you will ever know".

There's a lot of know it all or troll posters here, but this guy ruined the Kiev forum and a lot of good posters stopped posting there. He literally posted the same messages on there for years despite the fact it's now been six years since he has visited there (his own words). But his "friends" that live there tell him about the current mongering situation and nightlife and he's just sure it's bad LOL.

Kiev is not easy for newbies but if you know what you are doing it's possible to meet very hot women there. He's just a huge liar who gets off on getting under people's skin. He's the only poster I've ever had a problem with in almost 20 years on this forum.

[Ctytek]

This entire "debate" easily takes the award of ISG's most boring, bloviating, inconsequential and pointless thread of the decade!


So Jinxx, allow me to provide a synopsis of the discussion:

1. DaydreamerCrist is insistent that a SSFQ exists, and that he supposedly confirmed it with his HK manager friend, LOL LOL LOL! He claims he has enough influence over this manager that he can obtain complimentary beers. Yet he cannot obtain the slightest iota of proof from his friend.

[ScatManDoo]

Here are some points that everyone agrees on, that do not require any further discussion:

1. Some putas receive preferential treatment from management.

2. Management has a good idea of who the top earners are. Hell, any regular monger has a good idea too.

3. Management encourages chicas to sell more fichas.

4. DaydreamerCrist and Scatman do not know the difference between "evidence" and "hearsay."

5. DaydreamerCrist does not know the definition of "sanction."

To be continued.I know that HK managers have enough individual power to impose any fucking type of quota or requirement they want to impose on a non-producing chica that they don't like.

With her having no right of redress.

You want to believe that some chica that no one's willing to buy a drink for can hang around unproductive, taking up space, welcome to your fantasies.

You know what else I know?

When to quit beating a dead horse.

[Jinxx]

Clam you know I'm not an expert on HK. This ficha stuff is waaay waaay above my pay grade.

I'm only willing to have this discussion in person, in the club, with at least one chica. Or better yet let's interview a few different chicas so we can try to build a consensus. Let's collaborate and get to the bottom of this conundrum.

I'll be in the Zona tonight swooping in and out of various establishments. And I already got me a stack of $1 bills baby!

Holler at your boy!! 😁.

[DramaFree11]

I know that HK managers have enough individual power to impose any fucking type of quota or requirement they want to impose on a non-producing chica that they don't like.

With her having no right of redress.

You want to believe that some chica that no one's willing to buy a drink for can hang around unproductive, taking up space, welcome to your fantasies.

You know what else I know?

When to quit beating a dead horse.Thank you, your point is taken. I have zero issues with you and I appreciate your feedback. I will not post about MTY on the Tijuana pages. You guys can you join me anytime you like in MTY and Moscow, 100% real.

As far as Dr. Clam, I said, I was bored, now I am at my preferred destination, having a great time. It is a New Year and I done with that clown, unless he completely fabricates something.

For the record I love Tijuana / HK I would be there now if not for the lockdown, the 7th floor does not sound appealing.

[LuvMexicanas]

Clam you know I'm not an expert on HK. This ficha stuff is waaay waaay above my pay grade.

I'm only willing to have this discussion in person, in the club, with at least one chica. Or better yet let's interview a few different chicas so we can try to build a consensus. Let's collaborate and get to the bottom of this conundrum.

I'll be in the Zona tonight swooping in and out of various establishments. And I already got me a stack of $1 bills baby!

Holler at your boy!! 😁.Just keep rubbing it in Jinxx! I'll end up spending at least $200 tonight in drinks with no guarantee of panocha because in Old Town Scottsdale it takes flashing Benjamin vs dollar bills.

[DramaFree11]

If I had the time or inclination I could go through this guys posts and point out hundreds of lies and hypocrisy. He literally went on a years long rant on how anyone traveling to Kiev could only get a girl with 7 looks at best. When we pointed out that a 7 is well above average, he started using 6 as his number for the best anyone could get.

He says I'm lying about him getting his parents sick after a mongering trip, yet he posted this on this very forum LOL.

And when he has no defense of his dribble he will come up with a clich like "I've forgot more about mongering than you will ever know".

There's a lot of know it all or troll posters here, but this guy ruined the Kiev forum and a lot of good posters stopped posting there. He literally posted the same messages on there for years despite the fact it's now been six years since he has visited there (his own words). But his "friends" that live there tell him about the current mongering situation and nightlife and he's just sure it's bad LOL.

Kiev is not easy for newbies but if you know what you are doing it's possible to meet very hot women there. He's just a huge liar who gets off on getting under people's skin. He's the only poster I've ever had a problem with in almost 20 years on this forum.Again the person, lying and trolling is you. Zero post about girls and you never answered how many times you actually visited Kiev. This is Tijuana thread, so I will no longer talk about Kiev.

I will no longer post about you or Dr. Clam, unless you blatantly lie or exaggerate, but that is hard for you guys to deal in the real world. You guys, can meet me at my 2 favorite destinations, any time you like.

I just got done with incredible threesome, believe what you want or better yet join me, but that would require actually meeting girls. At lest Dr. Clam talks about girls and he at least goes to HK. You continue to complain. Make up a story of actually meeting with a real girl, I will believe it. I love HK / Tijuana.

[DramaFree11]

If I had the time or inclination I could go through this guys posts and point out hundreds of lies and hypocrisy. He literally went on a years long rant on how anyone traveling to Kiev could only get a girl with 7 looks at best. When we pointed out that a 7 is well above average, he started using 6 as his number for the best anyone could get..I have a better Idea, anybody can contact me on via personnel messenger, even Dr. Clam. I will send you my Whatsapp number you can verify my location, you will be surprised. You will be see who is lying and it is not me.

[DramaFree11]

If you need more evidence just ask.

[DramaFree11]

Here just a few of the girls I am meeting up with. Text me if you do not believe and you need more data. I am doing pretty good for hanging out at my mom's bunker in MTY, wait suite.

These are all nice girls and normally I would not show there pictures, but I guess it is necessary.

Rog. You were lying on the other page and you are doing the same here. Get a life.

[DramaFree11]

Need more examples no problem.

[Member #4722]

Is DramaFree11 on a drunken posting rant or normal posting? You never can tell with this guy lololol. I'm only here to clown you, not answer your questions.

[ScatManDoo]

Is DramaFree11 on a drunken posting rant or normal posting? You never can tell with this guy lololol. I'm only here to clown you, not answer your questions.What a worthless troll.

[Captain Solo]

Looks like people in church on Sunday.

Definitely need more examples with more skin hehe.

[Rainman306]

Jinxx,

Since it appears the boards resident guru, Captain Solo, has verified the possibly to Get a puta for less than 700-800 pesos an hour, can I also claim my free puta reward?? Hehe! I would like the chica in white pants at 5:54 of glimpses from recent alley video on YouTube.

It may be hard to get deals, but there's always desperate women at all Ievels of the adult industry. You never know what chica has not seasoned in a day or two or three who may take almost everything.

[InsolentSpike]

Jinxx,

Since it appears the boards resident guru, Captain Solo, has verified the possibly to Get a puta for less than 700-800 pesos an hour, can I also claim my free puta reward?? Hehe! I would like the chica in white pants at 5:54 of glimpses from recent alley video on YouTube.

It may be hard to get deals, but there's always desperate women at all Ievels of the adult industry. You never know what chica has not seasoned in a day or two or three who may take almost everything.That's Edith. That body is superb. Highly recommend!

[Jinxx]

Jinxx,

Since it appears the boards resident guru, Captain Solo, has verified the possibly to Get a puta for less than 700-800 pesos an hour, can I also claim my free puta reward?? Hehe! I would like the chica in white pants at 5:54 of glimpses from recent alley video on YouTube.

It may be hard to get deals, but there's always desperate women at all Ievels of the adult industry. You never know what chica has not seasoned in a day or two or three who may take almost everything.Bro if you saw the "chica" Captain's talking about you wouldn't do anything with her for free.

My offer definitely still stands if you can go up to a decent looking reasonably attractive door girl and negotiate 700-800 for an hour session I will gladly pay for it. Then I'm going to hook up with her right after you because 800 pesos is an unheard of low price for an hour. Only the second tier and third tier door girls would even remotely consider 1000 or 800 pesos for an hour, and that would be on a very slow desperate day.

1500-1800 is the standard going rate for an hour with a door girl. If you ask ten attractive door girls they will all quote you in that price range. Maybe if you're lucky you might be able to negotiate down from there. And it's VERY possible that the hotter chicas on a busy day might quote you 2000 and not accept anything less.

Just Monday afternoon LuvMexicanas saw me get a cute little fat BBW chick, Daniela in the alley by agua caliente casino for 800 for an hour. She's about a 5 or 5. 5 definitely NOT one of the top tier door girls. It was cold and rainy outside and the poor girl probably was happy to get out of the cold rain. She gave good service though. I made sure she agreed to the full hour with multiple pops. She gave a real good CBJ and seemed to love getting pounded pretty hard. I popped the first time after ten minutes. Then I banged her the rest of the hour but didn't pop a second time. I had a good hour long session for 800 pesos so I kinda proved myself wrong. But ask LuvMexicanas, he saw her and he said he'd bang her for free but he wouldn't pay her. Luckily I'm not super picky, as most mongers wouldn't pay to bang a chica that's not even a 6. But hey brother Jinxx is always ready to take one for the team. 😉.

[ScatManDoo]

Bro if you saw the "chica" Captain's talking about you wouldn't do anything with her for free.

My offer definitely still stands if you can go up to a decent looking reasonably attractive door girl and negotiate 700-800 for an hour session I will gladly pay for it. It has been my experience in Tijuana that making fair offers tends to work out much better than asking chicas for quotes.


Then I'm going to hook up with her right after you because 800 pesos is an unheard of low price for an hour. Good luck with negotiating a street girls that just filled her purse with pesos an hour earlier that removed most of her desperation.


1500-1800 is the standard going rate for an hour with a door girl. If you ask ten attractive door girls they will all quote you in that price range. Maybe if you're lucky you might be able to negotiate down from there. And it's VERY possible that the hotter chicas on a busy day might quote you 2000 and not accept anything less.Readers and future negotiators:

Asking for quotes is the same as asking for maximum fees.

[Dickus Maximus]

This entire "debate" easily takes the award of ISG's most boring, bloviating, inconsequential and pointless thread of the decade!I second that.

[CheckMate1]

It has been my experience in Tijuana that making fair offers tends to work out much better than asking chicas for quotes.

Good luck with negotiating a street girls that just filled her purse with pesos an hour earlier that removed most of her desperation.

Readers and future negotiators:

Asking for quotes is the same as asking for maximum fees.Funny thing about pricing is one man's high is another man's low.

I remember my first trip to Tijuana, after reading months of the thread. After following the Captain's reports, I decided that I'll go to Tijuana and just say Un Mil pesos in HK. I proposed that to 3 chicas, and 2 said yes. Sometime, when you're just dumb about how pricing works, and just throw out a number, it may work. But the true lesson that I got from doing this is:

You are the buyer, you set a price that you are comfortable with. If the seller isn't willing or ready for your price, you can say thank you and move to the next seller.

If you find that your number is not providing you with success, then adjust your pricing a little until you are satisfied with the results.

The problem (s) occur when you're in a rush, too excited (as I was, but kept the discipline LOL), seeing a "must have" chica, etc. I never judge another man's spending habit. If you're into having a good time with your money and party, cool. This is merely for those who just want efficiency with their money.

[ScatManDoo]

Funny thing about pricing is one man's high is another man's low.

I remember my first trip to Tijuana, after reading months of the thread. After following the Captain's reports, I decided that I'll go to Tijuana and just say Un Mil pesos in HK. I proposed that to 3 chicas, and 2 said yes. Sometime, when you're just dumb about how pricing works, and just throw out a number, it may work. But the true lesson that I got from doing this is:

You are the buyer, you set a price that you are comfortable with. If the seller isn't willing or ready for your price, you can say thank you and move to the next seller.

If you find that your number is not providing you with success, then adjust your pricing a little until you are satisfied with the results.Yes it is as simple as that, you seem ready to preach to the choir.

I'm not completely sure of it, but I think I was preaching the "make offers, don't get quotes" on this board for more than a year before solo changed that to his negotiating efforts.

More than once he's described my reported negotiated fees as the lowest amount anyone pays hookers. He thinks he's saying something derogatory towards me, but I just smile and chuckle to myself when I read it from him.

[Jinxx]

It has been my experience in Tijuana that making fair offers tends to work out much better than asking chicas for quotes.

Good luck with negotiating a street girls that just filled her purse with pesos an hour earlier that removed most of her desperation.

Readers and future negotiators:

Asking for quotes is the same as asking for maximum fees.Are you saying that you can walk up to a 1st tier door girl and get her to agree to a full hour for 800 pesos? Is that what you're saying?

I extend the same exact offer to you. Come meet up with me in the zona and if you can actually pull that off I will happily pay for your session.

My prediction is if you go up to one of the more attractive door girls and you say you want an hour for 800, first she's going to laugh. Then when she realizes you're actually serious she's going to give you disgusted look like you're a insect or a worm that she'd like to step on you and crush you with her shoe. But that's just my honest prediction.

Either way I win. Either I get the entertainment of watching you completely humiliate and embarrass yourself, or I get to witness some absolutely masterful, legendary, awe inspiring puta negotiation skills. Plus I'll have cool story to tell the bros.

[ScatManDoo]

My prediction is if you go up to one of the more attractive door girls and you say you want an hour for 800, first she's going to laugh. Then when she realizes you're actually serious she's going to give you disgusted look like you're a insect or a worm that she'd like to step on you and crush you with her shoe. But that's just my honest prediction.I've been making very low ball offers in Tijuana for over seven years.

What you describe has happened numerous times (and I probably get an unhealthy amusement when it happens).

So if we met, when I am in town, we could do it for both our amusement.

I kept statistics for one year (2014) and got thumbs up on 11 of 16 offers for 100 peso blow jobs from walkers (maybe one was a street girl). That was contemporaneously reported and still exists on the internet.

I still make lowball offers, but mostly do repeats with good performers. I rarely have any time to seek out new talent after I've been in town for more than 24 hours. The chica network keeps walkers informed & knocking on my door after I'm in town.

[Jackie888]

I think that some of the girls gives quotes with a menu. And that leads to some confusion. For example, some girls offers me 200 pesos. But I know it is the most basic service, which is a one to two position fuck, clothes on, no oral sex. If I times the 15 minutes by 4, that is 800 pesos for the hour.

But the same chica also wants 200 pesos more for oral, 100 pesos more for sin ropa, and 100 pesos more for going to other motels they are not under contract with. And if I want that for the hour, it's going to cost me 600 pesos x 4, which can result in 2000+ pesos.

So in conclusion, I can get a girl for an hour for 800 pesos. On the other hand, I can also get the same girl for 2400 pesos. It depends on what I want on her menu.

[ClamSlammer]

You want to believe that some chica that no one's willing to buy a drink for can hang around unproductive, taking up space, welcome to your fantasies.Walk into HK any time, day or night, and you will see scores of putas standing around or sitting on their phones with no drinks being bought for them for hours.

[ClamSlammer]

Good luck with negotiating a street girls that just filled her purse with pesos an hour earlier that removed most of her desperation.Oh yeah, those $300 pesos she just filled her purse up with is going to solve all her problems.

[ClamSlammer]

Either way I win...I get the entertainment of watching you completely humiliate and embarrass yourselfJinxx, bro, the above is just about a daily occurrence on this board. But if you want to see it live, it is very entertaining as well. I saw it live once at D&G. Pathetic old monger walking in with his sack of worthless regalos, giddy with excitement thinking the putas will give him attention because of his $1 trinkets. The only suspense was whether they could wait until he turned his back to hold back their laughter.

[ClamSlammer]

This entire "debate" easily takes the award of ISG's most boring, bloviating, inconsequential and pointless thread of the decade!When have you posted any intel or useful information about the Zona? Never. You have not contributed anything worth a shit since you signed up for this forum. And you complain about me? You're still sore from me humiliating you a couple years back? Get over it! Don't post lies and nonsense and I won't have anything to call you out on. You don't find useful what I post, put me on your ignore list. You may not like some things I say, but I help keep this board clean of lies and bullshit. I completely destroyed DramaQueen for lying and also proved DaydreamerCrist's SSFQ claim and confirming it with a fantasy HK manager as nothing but a daydream. If it wasn't for me, half you suckers would be wondering if HK collects enough in stage fees to pay the meseros.

[DramaFree11]

When have you posted any intel or useful information about the Zona? Never. You have not contributed anything worth a shit since you signed up for this forum. And you complain about me? You're still sore from me humiliating you a couple years back? Get over it! Don't post lies and nonsense and I won't have anything to call you out on. You don't find useful what I post, put me on your ignore list. You may not like some things I say, but I help keep this board clean of lies and bullshit. I completely destroyed DramaQueen for lying and also proved DaydreamerCrist's SSFQ claim and confirming it with a fantasy HK manager as nothing but a daydream. If it wasn't for me, half you suckers would be wondering if HK collects enough in stage fees to pay the meseros.Destroyed me I do not think so. Again zero reports about a girl, to my 30-40 posts. I am still waiting for your call or message.

I am returning from a successful trip and leaving again next Saturday. Again this is real unlike your fantasy world.

I can provide any documentation you need unlike many others, that make up excuses and lies.

Not sure why you are attacking Capt S. , is reports are awesome. He talks, about actual girls, reviews restaurants and many useful information.

[LuvMexicanas]

Thank you, your point is taken. I have zero issues with you and I appreciate your feedback. I will not post about MTY on the Tijuana pages. You guys can you join me anytime you like in MTY and Moscow, 100% real.

As far as Dr. Clam, I said, I was bored, now I am at my preferred destination, having a great time. It is a New Year and I done with that clown, unless he completely fabricates something.

For the record I love Tijuana / HK I would be there now if not for the lockdown, the 7th floor does not sound appealing.Just remember you wrote this "I will not post about MTY on the Tijuana pages" weeks, months and years from now.

[Captain Solo]

Drama,

Guys with deep sense of insecurity and inadequacy tend to troll on frivolous issues and attack others trying hard to prove their self-worth.

Know them for what they are, but don't waste your energy and feed their egos by tangling with them.

I post useful facts so the bros can benefit from or avoid problems. I post pictures and names of girls so I remember whom I was dealing with, also to show the world how beautiful, nice, sweet, sexy Mexican girls are on the global scale and should not be overlooked. A number of bros from other countries have visited Tijuana and met with me to enjoy the fun, relaxed, sexy lifestyles, delicious food, exotic culture, and the hundreds beautiful girls partying in a small bar block, that are unique in the world.

[DramaFree11]

Just remember you wrote this "I will not post about MTY on the Tijuana pages" weeks, months and years from now.No problem, I will use destination instead. These guys keep making up lies and I will respond.

[ClamSlammer]

Clammy numbering his "evidence"?Yes, my numbered points the prove that DaydreamerCrist is daydreaming about his fantasy quota. The points that DaydreamerCrist has never responded to.


Clammy hanging on to his impossible theory that HK doesn't track ficha sales.Never said that. DaydreamerCrist must fabricate lies, because the truth destroys his daydreams.


Just imagine what HK would look like if a chica's only motivation to sell a ficha was $1. 50, when they make $100 on arriba. That's what our dear king of Mexican strip clubs believes.Never said that. Again, more lies in order to support his daydreams.

[LuvMexicanas]

No problem, I will use destination instead. These guys keep making up lies and I will respond.You know that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking normal posts not if you feel under attack situations.

[ClamSlammer]

Destroyed me I do not think so.You went from "I think it is a sliding scale. " to.

"Here is the bottom line there is a sliding scale. ".

You went from not sure to definitely. Your credibility is destroyed right there.


I can provide any documentation you need unlike many others, that make up excuses and lies.You've never directly responded to any of my points, because they prove you dead wrong. So now you're going to respond?


Not sure why you are attacking Capt S.So you agree that Adelita's (The Club) has only 20 chicas on a weekend?

[Member #4722]

So he's not going to really stop posting about MTY on the Tijuana forums. He's just going to change the name to "destination". I can't even with this guy. Can't figure out if this is funny or just sad.

[Ctytek]

When have you posted any intel or useful information about the Zona? Never. You have not contributed anything worth a shit since you signed up for this forum. And you complain about me? You're still sore from me humiliating you a couple years back? Get over it! Don't post lies and nonsense and I won't have anything to call you out on. You don't find useful what I post, put me on your ignore list. You may not like some things I say, but I help keep this board clean of lies and bullshit. I completely destroyed DramaQueen for lying and also proved DaydreamerCrist's SSFQ claim and confirming it with a fantasy HK manager as nothing but a daydream. If it wasn't for me, half you suckers would be wondering if HK collects enough in stage fees to pay the meseros.LOLOLOL. You are both hilarious and pathetic at the same time. Yeah, you really "humiliated" me and all those other posters. I don't know how we we will ever walk again with our heads up. Clammy, the professor of HK ficha quotas, mesero fees, and puta hierarchies. Who can ever compete with that??

I bet that you never actually bone chicas. Instead, you just bore them to death with you non-stop nonsense and delusions of grandeur. Just like you have bored half of the posters here.

[ScatManDoo]

I can't even with this guy.
Can't figure out if this is funny or just sad.Well. Not funny as miswritten.

[Jinxx]

I think that some of the girls gives quotes with a menu. And that leads to some confusion. For example, some girls offers me 200 pesos. But I know it is the most basic service, which is a one to two position fuck, clothes on, no oral sex. If I times the 15 minutes by 4, that is 800 pesos for the hour.

But the same chica also wants 200 pesos more for oral, 100 pesos more for sin ropa, and 100 pesos more for going to other motels they are not under contract with. And if I want that for the hour, it's going to cost me 600 pesos x 4, which can result in 2000+ pesos.

So in conclusion, I can get a girl for an hour for 800 pesos. On the other hand, I can also get the same girl for 2400 pesos. It depends on what I want on her menu.Ok I have two questions for you.

What's 2400+800 divided by two? It's 1600. This whole debate is about my claim that "1500-1800 is standard rate for an hour service with a zn door girl".

And when was the last time you think a guy requested a full hour long session of "keep your top on", "no BJ", "only one position"? Probably never.

So in conclusion, you totally and completely agreed with and reaffirmed everything I said.

[ScatManDoo]

This whole debate is about my claim that "1500-1800 is standard rate for an hour service with a zn door girl".I guess it is down to the language being used by Jinxx that is resulting in little consensus for his assertion.

I don't believe there is any standard rate for an hour service with a Tijuana street girl. Nothing like that at all.

I think it could be better said that there is a varying range of fees commonly charged by Tijuana street girls, but many may try to charge even more than those common rates.

Street girls usually price their services for 15 minute sessions, so their pricing for one hour varies widely. Look past the hottest dressed SGs if you want to pay less.

[Baxter Slade]

I guess it is down to the language being used by Jinxx that is resulting in little consensus for his assertion.

I don't believe there is any standard rate for an hour service with a Tijuana street girl. Nothing like that at all.

I think it could be better said that there is a varying range of fees commonly charged by Tijuana street girls, but many may try to charge even more than those common rates.

Street girls usually price their services for 15 minute sessions, so their pricing for one hour varies widely. Look past the hottest dressed SGs if you want to pay less.This may be a first but I have to agree with Scatman. Many SG' just don't know or are unprepared to deal with strange requests. Over the years we have experimented with SG's.

The first experiment involved a large black man getting a price quote from a SG. With a normal size white man coming along next to see if the price may have been different. And yes there may be some prejudice. Price changed and a couple flat out turned and walked away.

Another time tried TLN or asked for multi hour and what we discovered was they have no idea how to respond. They really don't seem to be equipped with the knowledge on how to deal with a request other than the typical 20 minute service. Most did take some time to think about it and came up with offers, but they were all over the board. None of which matched any kind of normal structured pricing.

The third experiment involved would a SG be willing to go to out of zona hotels like Ticuan. There were very few takers on this one but there were a few takers. And once again they did not seem to be prepared for this type of request and the answers were all over the place.

While these sample sizes were not big enough to document the results. We came to the conclusion that if you throw a request something out of the ordinary at a SG there is no standard response. Such as 20 minute suckie fuckie $20. And on a side note for a newbee suckie may not mean you will be getting any BJ , you may have to pay extra. They no not what they say.

[Artisttyp]

I was getting 1000 mx sessions at the bare minimum pussy and ass eating. Often times BBBJ and DFK included, At one point maybe 2 years ago when the peso was at 21 to the $. 800 mx was accepted at times depending on the girl.

None of my sessions are standard "safety" all covered sessions.

[Jinxx]

I guess it is down to the language being used by Jinxx that is resulting in little consensus for his assertion.

I don't believe there is any standard rate for an hour service with a Tijuana street girl. Nothing like that at all.

I think it could be better said that there is a varying range of fees commonly charged by Tijuana street girls, but many may try to charge even more than those common rates.

Street girls usually price their services for 15 minute sessions, so their pricing for one hour varies widely. Look past the hottest dressed SGs if you want to pay less.The "language" being used by Jinxx is exactly this: "how much for an hour full service?" And 99.9% of the time their reply falls within the 1500-1800 range.

I did a door girl run last night, banged 3 chicas. The last one was Caterina (Carina?) by hk back entrance. She charged me 600 for FS quicky which is a tiny bit higher than my usual 500 limit, but she was WELL worth it. After we finished I asked her how much for a full hour. She became a bit confused not knowing exactly what to say, but finally said 2000. This chica I would happily pay 2000 for a full hour of ravishing her gorgeous sexy body and soaking up her super sweet sexual personality. But I'd bet I could probably negotiate a bit lower into the 1500-1800 range.

Yea maybe some guys are total alpha males and they can just walk up to any hot puta flash 800 pesos and easily just wisk her off to the room, and bang her out easy peasy. But that's NOT a realistic expectation for us average guys, not even remotely close.

1500-1800 is absolutely the average standard rate for a zn door girl full hour full service. I stand by that statement 100% and base my entire monger reputation on that assertion. Yes of course that rate might be higher or lower depending on multiple factors. But as a general rule of thumb 1500-1800 is the standard going rate.

[Captain Solo]

My wingman, who speaks fluent Spanish, has been having 1-hour sessions with various street girls for 500 pesos just about every week. Some girls are hot, like Kimberly / Joshlyn / Sara / Jury / Sofia / Julieta ect.

Some girls even do DFK, BBBJ, BBFS an hour for 500-600 pesos, won't mention names to protect them from their pissed-off competitors. Guys just have to search the market and make their deals. Familiarity will improve their chance.

[Jinxx]

My wingman, who speaks fluent Spanish, has been having 1-hour sessions with various street girls for 500 pesos just about every week. Some girls are hot, like Kimberly / Joshlyn / Sara / Jury / Sofia / Julieta ect.

Some girls even do DFK, BBBJ, BBFS an hour for 500-600 pesos, won't mention names to protect them from their pissed-off competitors. Guys just have to search the market and make their deals. Familiarity will improve their chance.I'm amazed that your wingman's experience has been that DRASTICALLY DRASTICALLY DRASTICALLY different than mine.

Based on my own experience I wouldn't remotely even dream of getting door girls for an hour for 500-600. That's not even remotely realistic based on my own experience.

Captain Solo PLEASE PLEASE send your wingman my way I would absolutely love to pay for his sessions for him. If I could witness someone accomplish what you're describing it would totally completely blow my mind.

This wingman of yours I would drop down to my knees and bow in his presence screaming "I'm not worthy!!" "I'm not worthy!!", "I'm not worthy!!!" (think Wayne's World, Wayne and Garth).

If what you say is true this wingman of yours would not only be a legendary masterful monger, he would actually be the number one, undisputed champion, single greatest monger I've ever heard of anywhere on planet earth.

[Cocr Brotheler]

My wingman, who speaks fluent Spanish, has been having 1-hour sessions with various street girls for 500 pesos just about every week. Some girls are hot, like Kimberly / Joshlyn / Sara / Jury / Sofia / Julieta ect.

Some girls even do DFK, BBBJ, BBFS an hour for 500-600 pesos, won't mention names to protect them from their pissed-off competitors. Guys just have to search the market and make their deals. Familiarity will improve their chance.I think is possible with enough time, game and skills. My enemy to these types of pleasures are time and distance. Not much time off work for me and I have to travel from TX however my 2nd day on monger there early Nov. after horrible 1st day SG experience I wandered "up the hill" a bit and pulled a little thick Chiapas. Not fat however and giggly happy! fun laughing with me and holding hands on way back to Hotel Coahuilla. It was GFE experience and good. Later the night back in USA In Imperial Beach had great dream that there were hills upon hills of SGs all waiting.

Thinking that there are undiscovered pockets once get just even a little outside the zone.

[Cocr Brotheler]

My thick but toned, flat stomached Chipas chica had nice darker skin and I would of gladly busted a nut up inside her sin condom.

[Captain Solo]

Jinxx,

I was not in the room with them while they screw, only went by my wingman's word, who has no incentives to lie to me.

It's nothing special. If I want to, I can have a few hot street girls I know do an hour sessions for 500 pesos, as they usually charge me only XXX pesos for half hour. But after half hour of pumping their kitties and popping big, I would be tired and not want to spend more time with them in sleazy hotel rooms. Some guys may have doubts but I did screw a lot of hot HK girls for 1,000 pesos just about every visit.

I am guessing some guys may have erection problems and just want girls to do BBBJ on their limp dick for the whole hour while they pray for a miracle hehe.

The wingman is rabo verde. He has been going to Tijuana since the 70's, lived in a few Latin America countries, know a lot of street girls and business owners in the Putas Village. He follows ISG but has not posted anything in over 10 years since he's sensitive to ridicules and attacks by new guys who think they know it all.

He has lots of friend, I am not sure if he's open to meet new friends. You speak Spanish and should be able to get the same or better deals. One way it would help is to rent a cheap room for the whole night near the alley and bring the girls there. The girls and you would not have time pressure and it would be easier to get good deals.

[ScatManDoo]

These old crusty guys who hang out or live at the Leyva (Excuse me, the Posada de Santiago resort).

I've heard them joke at a time when they were probably talking about walkers instead of street girls.

The joke went something like "A 500 peso note is the same thing as a 1st-class airplane ticket that takes you to anywhere and everywhere you want to go."

[KC Questor]

The "language" being used by Jinxx is exactly this: "how much for an hour full service?" And 99.9% of the time their reply falls within the 1500-1800 range.I don't have a dog in this fight, as I really only do street girls for their normal time -- not even bothering with the full 30 minutes.

But I've often heard that a better deal can be had by telling a girl what you are willing to pay, versus asking for her rates. I'm not saying you can get an hour for 500 pesos (which seems crazy). But you may have decent luck if you offer a specific rate for an hour of her time. You might find girls accepting 1000-1200, versus your 1500-1800.

[ScatManDoo]

This wingman of yours I would drop down to my knees and bow in his presence screaming "I'm not worthy!!" "I'm not worthy!!", "I'm not worthy!!!" (think Wayne's World, Wayne and Garth).

If what you say is true this wingman of yours would not only be a legendary masterful monger, he would actually be the number one, undisputed champion, single greatest monger I've ever heard of anywhere on planet earth.They are called locals, and they would never ask a chica, while she's working, for a quote.

[Member #4722]

I have repeated a handful of times with SG Naomi who works between La Gloria and the taco stand. She's well put together. Tall with nice body. Face looks good until you get close she wears heavy makeup (kinda cross eyed). She's the only SG I've had a decent time with. I've always offered 500 for 30 minutes all inclusive. A couple times I have extended another 30 minutes in the room for another 500, so that may be a good strategy (extend when they are already in room). I don't session with her anymore bc after 6-7 sessions she still won't relent for GFE.

[Jinxx]

I don't have a dog in this fight, as I really only do street girls for their normal time -- not even bothering with the full 30 minutes.

But I've often heard that a better deal can be had by telling a girl what you are willing to pay, versus asking for her rates. I'm not saying you can get an hour for 500 pesos (which seems crazy). But you may have decent luck if you offer a specific rate for an hour of her time. You might find girls accepting 1000-1200, versus your 1500-1800.There most definitely are door girls accepting 1000-1200 for a whole hour fs, even 800. But that is not the norm and that is not the top tier chicas. A well known ISG poster witnessed me go up to a door girl and get her for the full hour for 800. But it was Monday afternoon, the alley was dead, it was cold and rainy outside, and the chica was maybe a 5 out of 10. I have a few 2nd tier door girls who know me well and will do an hour for 800-1000. I banged Edith for a full hour for 1000 back in March and wrote a full review of it.

But even knowing all of that, it's still not realistic for 95% of guys to go to the zona expecting those very low rates. Especially if you want the top tier door girls. 1500-1800 is just the standard going rate. All these guys claiming lower prices all admit that they don't even do hour long sessions with door girls. I do hook up with door girls for hour long dates, usually bringing them to my room in cascadas or hotel coahuila, or I'll uber them to my apartment(15 min Uber ride from zona Norte) All of my favorite door girls I don't even have to go to the zona to see them. If I want I just text them to come over to my place. If I'm in cascadas I don't even have to leave my room, I just text one of my regular door girls and she shows up at my door and 1500-1800 is a perfectly reasonable normal realistic standard rate for a decent door girl for an hour. Unlike these other guys, what I'm posting comes from pure 1st hand personal experience. Very extensive 1st hand personal experience.

And this captain guy claims his "wingman" gets full hour BBFS from multiple door girls for 500. Even if that's true it's still not a realistic expectation for 99.99999% of mongers visiting Tijuana. Heck I know a guy who goes to the zona and hooks up with chicas for free. Does that mean guys should expect to go to the zona and bang putas for free? Heck no that's not realistic for 99.9999999999% of mongers.

And I'm sure you noticed my offer to pay for these guys' session for them if they can show me an attractive door girl that will accept 800 for an hour. I'm offering free pussy all paid for by brother Jinxx, and not a single one has taken me up on my offer.

[Captain Solo]

Jinnx.

I did not say he got 1 hour of BBFS, may be BBBJ. He likes to romance girls, not doing hard, dirty sex with them.

Your prices for sessions with street girls all seemed high to me. Local guys like you should be able to get better deals than gringos. So I don't understand your situation. There are street girls who do BBBJ and BBFS sessions for 300-400 pesos. Ask around you may find them.

I mentioned what I know, not to challenge your claims, but to help you hopefully get hotter sessions, better deals in the Putas Village.

[Jinxx]

My wingman, who speaks fluent Spanish, has been having 1-hour sessions with various street girls for 500 pesos just about every week. Some girls are hot, like Kimberly / Joshlyn / Sara / Jury / Sofia / Julieta ect.

Some girls even do DFK, BBBJ, BBFS an hour for 500-600 pesos, won't mention names to protect them from their pissed-off competitors. Guys just have to search the market and make their deals. Familiarity will improve their chance.


Jinnx.

I did not say he got 1 hour of BBFS, may be BBBJ. He likes to romance girls, not doing hard, dirty sex with them.

Your prices for sessions with street girls all seemed high to me. Local guys like you should be able to get better deals than gringos. So I don't understand your situation. There are street girls who do BBBJ and BBFS sessions for 300-400 pesos. Ask around you may find them.

I mentioned what I know, not to challenge your claims, but to help you hopefully get hotter sessions, better deals in the Putas Village.You didn't say he got 1 hour of BBFS for 500? Are you sure about that captain? You seem to be contradicting yourself.

And why do you think that I would need your help getting "hotter sessions"? Have I ever complained about needing "hotter sessions"? I also have never complained about getting better deals, or not getting good deals. I'm perfectly comfortable with the prices I pay and the deals I get. I just had a threesome last night full GFE with independent escorts 20 year old Alexandra Vazquez and 19 year old Rubi Rulet for 1800 each. I loved every second of it and don't regret at all spending those 3600 pesos for one hour banging two young hotties. I'm simply pointing out how extremely drastically different your "wingman's" experience has been than mine, that's all.

For anyone out there reading this please don't think that there's any chance that you're going to come to Tijuana and get attractive street girls BBFS full hour for 500. That is NOT even remotely realistic for 99.999% of mongers.

I might not post the most rock bottom, outrageous, unbelievable rates, but what I do post is 100% honest and 100% realistic for any average monger visiting Tijuana.

[ScatManDoo]

For anyone out there reading this please don't think that there's any chance that you're going to come to Tijuana and get attractive street girls BBFS full hour for 500. Certainly not if Jinxx is introducing her to you.

You want to have someone like solo's wingman do the introduction.

[Baxter Slade]

You didn't say he got 1 hour of BBFS for 500? Are you sure about that captain? You seem to be contradicting yourself.Come on Jinxx.

I thought you have been around here long enough to realize the Captain makes shit up to entertain the bro's.

Hehehehe.

[ScatManDoo]

I have repeated a handful of times with SG Naomi who works between La Gloria and the taco stand. She's well put together. Tall with nice body. Face looks good until you get close she wears heavy makeup (kinda cross eyed). She's the only SG I've had a decent time with. I've always offered 500 for 30 minutes all inclusive. A couple times I have extended another 30 minutes in the room for another 500, so that may be a good strategy (extend when they are already in room). I don't session with her anymore bc after 6-7 sessions she still won't relent for GFE.After 26 sessions (the chica called by her wallmates behind her back the Spanish word for toothpick) will still be putting on the condom before blowing.

[LuvMexicanas]

Come on Jinxx.

I thought you have been around here long enough to realize the Captain makes shit up to entertain the bro's.

Hehehehe.ISG is but one of many forums. There are / were more hardcore Tijuana forums. If you have to ask which forums, it's over your head. Our resident Wookie lover was banned from the majority of those and often mocked for making shit up.

[Captain Solo]

Someone quickly forgot about the rotund Keebler woman who would do 1 hour FS for 300 pesos. Any noob could find her just about everyday at the Constitucion corner, or she will find and grab them on the street hehe.

Why not ask Santa Claus Scat about hundreds of his 150-peso sessions?

I don't want to speculate why some guys consistently get higher quotes than the norms, or why some guys keep getting abused and scorn, and make them feel bad.

Insecured, sensitive, suspicious, biitchy, are we?

Adios amigo!

[Captain Solo]

What a stupid lie from a low life.

There was only the ChicaBiitch site run by a rude, stupid, uneducated low life, populated with some of his stupid loser friends. I was not banned. I told the guy I no longer wanted to involve with his site and asked him to delete all my posts. Instead of deleting my posts as asked, he kept all my posts and changed the poster name to CommanderSmartyPants.

ChicaBiitch owner stole my posts! He must wants my posts very bad to have to steal them. His conducts in his site prove he's just an uneducated loser.

I have plenty of good, educated, happy, honest, successful monger friends from all over the world who hang out with me in Tijuana and other locations. I don't need to tangle with stupid lying low lifes.


ISG is but one of many forums. There are / were more hardcore Tijuana forums. If you have to ask which forums, it's over your head. Our resident Wookie lover was banned from the majority of those and often mocked for making shit up.

[ScatManDoo]

ISG is but one of many forums. There are / were more hardcore Tijuana forums. If you have to ask which forums, it's over your head. Our resident Wookie lover was banned from the majority of those and often mocked for making shit up.That's true.

[Captain Solo]

Chicabiitch's owner is a stupid lowlife thief, hangs out in his forum with his stupid, violent xxhole friends. The shit heads keep threatening each other with fist fights and extreme violence hehe.

I told him again and again I did not want to be in his forum and asked him to delete all my posts. Instead he kept all my posts, renamed the poster as commandersmartypants.

Chicabiitch owner is the kind of stupid lowlife thief nobody wants to deal with or be near. His forum is full of only stupid, violent posts by his stupid, ignorant, violent friends. It's uncivilized, ridiculous, offensive, violent, dirty like the bottom of the sewer and is pretty much dead. Hehe.

[Captain Solo]

Stop Enabling Sex Traffickers Act (SESTA) and Allow States and Victims to Fight Online Sex Trafficking Act (FOSTA).

Federal Law Enforcement and Prosecutors can be very resourceful and creative how they use federal statutes to screw stupid, criminal assholes.

Stupid shiitheads will be good targets for the Feds as they are not writing fiction just to entertain the bros. They have been known to get free honeymoon vacations in ClubFed for 30 years or more hehe.

[Rainman306]

This post obviously refers to when the big clubs were fully open.

It seems that the big clubs, in particular, the HK group does not always honor the coupons or promotions they advertise. There is a 50% off coupon if you buy a bucket of beer at Las Chavelas on Wednesday that was not honored.

There is a coupon for 2 free beers & a free appetizer on Monday / Tuesday that at best turns into just the 2 free beers.

There is also advertised a free breakfast on Tuesday / Wednesday that few know about and doesn't really seem to be offered for most but a lucky few.

[Member #4722]

Drama said he lived in Rosarito but he didn't like the climate so he moved to Tijuana. I'm posting right now from Rosarito and was in Tijuana less than an hour ago. It's literally a 30 minute drive with traffic. Exact same weather in both of these cities LOL. Why he lie so much??

[ScatManDoo]

Drama said he lived in Rosarito but he didn't like the climate so he moved to Tijuana. I'm posting right now from Rosarito and was in Tijuana less than an hour ago. It's literally a 30 minute drive with traffic. Exact same weather in both of these cities LOL. Why he lie so much??You really post some stupid shit Rog.

[MarksOfMagic]

There most definitely are door girls accepting 1000-1200 for a whole hour fs, even 800. But that is not the norm and that is not the top tier chicas. A well known ISG poster witnessed me go up to a door girl and get her for the full hour for 800. But it was Monday afternoon, the alley was dead, it was cold and rainy outside, and the chica was maybe a 5 out of 10. I have a few 2nd tier door girls who know me well and will do an hour for 800-1000. I banged Edith for a full hour for 1000 back in March and wrote a full review of it.This is a good fair price range given straight "normal" sessions range 200-600 for 20 minutes. 800-1200 is a pretty good offer if I can last an hour. I had a room at Cascadas on a Thursday, sometime in Sept / Oct. And I saw Paola, from Captains pictures and reviews. Offered me 600 full servicio, but countered at 500 and she quickly agreed. If I was to see her at HK, she would be 2000 for 20/30 minutes. But can counter for 1500,80 bucks maybe. Might of been the hottest door / street session I had. She spoke a deep English. Thick sexy accent. That waist was too die for. Ride on top amazing. Boobs super fake but I loved it. Busted 2 times in 45 minutes. So I ended up giving her a 300 tip. 800 for 45 minutes. So right around the price range you mention Jinxx.


Heck I know a guy who goes to the zona and hooks up with chicas for free. Does that mean guys should expect to go to the zona and bang putas for free? Heck no that's not realistic for 99.9999999999% of mongers.I've heard of guys that allegedly get free pussy, I don't see it that way. They are paying for dinner, movies, food, her rides, cost of living. No matter what you are paying some how or another. No such thing as free. A good deal. Much more likely. But you need a time. And a place in Tijuana also helps for a nonlocal.


And I'm sure you noticed my offer to pay for these guys' session for them if they can show me an attractive door girl that will accept 800 for an hour. I'm offering free pussy all paid for by brother Jinxx, and not a single one has taken me up on my offer.I do have a girl that I pay around 600 for cuddles and sex at Cascadas. She was a tiny thing a year back. Now she is a bit gordo. Stood right across Cascadas door across the street. I think I might of been the first one to bring her to Cascadss. You can tell she appreciates being there. The perfect GFE. I would go with her when I'm drunk af from HK or sober first thing. And she treats me kindly with respect and I do the same. Helps Wipe me down with a towel after a shower and lines the floor with a towel so I don't slip. Would never give her less than what I feel is a fair price and this is a girl who I think I can get from for free, but that's just not fair to her. To say that, I did put in many sessions. Put in lots of time and work to show her an American monger can be nice to help her enjoy her job.

[DramaFree11]

Drama said he lived in Rosarito but he didn't like the climate so he moved to Tijuana. I'm posting right now from Rosarito and was in Tijuana less than an hour ago. It's literally a 30 minute drive with traffic. Exact same weather in both of these cities LOL. Why he lie so much??Dude your lies continue. Go bang a girl on the street, get a life. I have only done that once in my life and I wish that never happened l.

You forgot to answer a very simple question how many times were you in Kiev? I was there over 50 times and lived there 3 times. Rosario sucks, and yes Kiev is even better then Ros.

Dr Clam. Has not text me yet, to do some real research, but again that is real world.

I am back in MTY living the dream and you are hanging out in Rosarito.

Maybe you can get your loser friends on the Kiev page to come up with a formula, stating Ros. Is better then Tijuana.

[Mr Enternational]

For anyone out there reading this please don't think that there's any chance that you're going to come to Tijuana and get attractive street girls BBFS full hour for 500. That is NOT even remotely realistic for 99.999% of mongers.I must be that .001% then. Because I had one today 250 for 30 minutes. She asked condom and I said no then she tried to put my dick in.

[Mr Enternational]

This post obviously refers to when the big clubs were fully open.

It seems that the big clubs, in particular, the HK group does not always honor the coupons or promotions they advertise. Never had a problem using my Hong Kong 2 for 1 drink coupons that Tomjackin first showed me about. I have been using the same one he gave me for years. I just copy off a few on my printer when I am about to run out.

[Dogers69]

Drama said he lived in Rosarito but he didn't like the climate so he moved to Tijuana. I'm posting right now from Rosarito and was in Tijuana less than an hour ago. It's literally a 30 minute drive with traffic. Exact same weather in both of these cities LOL. Why he lie so much??Rosarito is more based on the pacific ocean. Tijuana is mostly inland a guess is 10 to 12 miles for revolution street. So Tijuana climate is different. In san Diego or LOS Angeles the weather changes 10 miles inland. Its not like the east coast where its only a couple degrees difference. That's why Tijuana is so hot sometimes when downtown San Diego isn't.

[Member #4722]

Drama said he lived in Rosarito but he didn't like the climate so he moved to Tijuana. I'm posting right now from Rosarito and was in Tijuana less than an hour ago. It's literally a 30 minute drive with traffic. Exact same weather in both of these cities LOL. Why he lie so much??Drama you will say I'm lying. How about you leave this board forever if I provide proof?

[Captain Solo]

Presently on 7th floor, HK cannot give out free VIP drinks or honor any coupon.

The front desk guy said he had no computer to print out vouchers. Don't know why they can't run their system on WIFI.

No free shuttle to and from the border, but VIP free parking is still honored.

[Member #4722]

Rosarito is more based on the pacific ocean. Tijuana is mostly inland a guess is 10 to 12 miles for revolution street. So Tijuana climate is different. In san Diego or LOS Angeles the weather changes 10 miles inland. Its not like the east coast where its only a couple degrees difference. That's why Tijuana is so hot sometimes when downtown San Diego isn't.It may be a little different. But not that much to make someone move, and he said he moved to Tijuana because of the bad weather in Rosarito so that's obviously a lie (just one of his 100's of other lies). He also claims ma to have lived in Colombia but really was just on a long vacation there.) only in 2021 are Dodgers and DramaFree teaming up LOL.

[ScatManDoo]

Drama you will say I'm lying. How about you leave this board forever if I provide proof?Getting tired of him exposing all of your lies?

[DramaFree11]

It may be a little different. But not that much to make someone move, and he said he moved to Tijuana because of the bad weather in Rosarito so that's obviously a lie (just one of his 100's of other lies). He also claims ma to have lived in Colombia but really was just on a long vacation there.) only in 2021 are Dodgers and DramaFree teaming up LOL.You guys can review my Whatsapp Account, Credit Card Statements, Airbnb. Whatever you need, again we will see who is lying. Better yet, I am in MTY this weekend and next. You and Dr. Clam. , can combine your money and send him to MTY, he can verify everything, this would be real research. I will even buy him dinner.

I actually like Dr. Clam. , at least he does not lie and make things up. Yes Rosarito sucks, but you probably like it, you are the guy banging street girls. This is why you thought the girl were so hot in Kiev. Kind of funny the things you forget. Again I have asked 4 times how many times you have actually been to Kiev? I am not sure why this is so hard to answer. I was hanging out in Moscow, while you were supposedly in Kiev. Scoreboard.

[DramaFree11]

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Just another example of the real person creating Drama. The guys on the Kiev page are great and honest now. Thank god you and your loser friend Photoslider are gone. He was so full of crap. Claiming he was banging several 8-10's for $75. Let me emphasis he was claiming multiple girls on every trip, just not possible there, I am sorry, but you guys came up with some crazy ass formulas to justify your lies. You just let it go on and never said and word, also the Admin, of the thread is guitly of allowing this crap. To continue. Total be. S. The crap this guy said and you were part of it. This is not possible any where especially Kiev.

Just a few things you forgot to mention about Kiev in your reports.

1. Scams every where at restaurants, clubs, bars.

2. Fake Profile.

3. Sex Tourist every where.

4. Raito of guys to girls at clubs was normally 10-1. How can you leave this out your reports.

5. Recommending Caribbean Club, one of the worst places I have ever been in my life.

6. You guys claimed that Brain Drain was not issue, spend 5 minutes researching this subject you will be very surprised what you find out.

I have also said many times that the city is wonderful, but for girl it is just not that good, but it is probably better now that there are not as many Sex Tourist and many girls have been forced to return from Europe or the Middle East. Again you forgot to mention this.

[Phordphan]

It may be a little different. But not that much to make someone move, and he said he moved to Tijuana because of the bad weather in Rosarito so that's obviously a lie (just one of his 100's of other lies). He also claims ma to have lived in Colombia but really was just on a long vacation there.) only in 2021 are Dodgers and DramaFree teaming up LOL.Ye gads. Give it a rest! I don't have a dog in this fight but Tijuana is full of microclimates. And the climate in Rosarito is starkly different from inland. Just to provide one example, the beaches are quite cold and damp in the winter. Farther inland it may be cold, but not nearly as damp. Another thing, the onshore flow is obviously more pronounced in Rosarito than in, say, Otay. Some may dig it, some don't. I don't particularly like the beach weather here outside of the summer. So I can certainly see somebody not liking Rosarito's climate and wanting to move farther inland.

[DramaFree11]

It may be a little different. But not that much to make someone move, and he said he moved to Tijuana because of the bad weather in Rosarito so that's obviously a lie (just one of his 100's of other lies). He also claims ma to have lived in Colombia but really was just on a long vacation there.) only in 2021 are Dodgers and DramaFree teaming up LOL.Why would any one ever make up living Ros. Or Kiev, both places equally suck. Both were great many years ago. You forgot to mention that I lived in St. Pet. , that is when I left Kiev because I was bored out of my mind. St. Pet. , was cool, but Moscow Rocked, so much fun and cheap. Again, I am telling guys to go to Moscow, parts of Mexico, and telling them how great SA is. You are complaining lying and telling guys Kiev and Rosarito are good. Common on.

[Dickus Maximus]

Ye gads. Give it a rest! I don't have a dog in this fight but Tijuana is full of microclimates. And the climate in Rosarito is starkly different from inland. Just to provide one example, the beaches are quite cold and damp in the winter. Farther inland it may be cold, but not nearly as damp. Another thing, the onshore flow is obviously more pronounced in Rosarito than in, say, Otay. Some may dig it, some don't. I don't particularly like the beach weather here outside of the summer. So I can certainly see somebody not liking Rosarito's climate and wanting to move farther inland.The wind off the ocean in Rosarito makes it really cold many days. I like being by the beach but for some reason both Rosarito and Ensenada seem much colder that farther north in LA. That wind doesn't hit Tijuana as much so Tijuana feels much warmer to me. I would still put up with the cold to be near the beach though.

[DramaFree11]

The difference between the Kiev page, (the old days) and Tijuana. , Guys call you for lying, fabricating or omitting important details. Your friends shamelessly made up stories and you were a big part of it. Either way, that's enough on that subject.

I have a couple of real dates today. I have a reservation at S. Prime Steakhousem, (San Pedro), at 5:30. You can call and check. Ask for the Grigio from Texas, Mike. I was also there last night with a different girl, both very hot. You can ask for me or, better yet, have one of your loser friends send me a message on WhatsApp. Living the dream.

[Mr Enternational]

Rosarito is more based on the pacific ocean. Tijuana is mostly inland a guess is 10 to 12 miles for revolution street. So Tijuana climate is different. In san Diego or LOS Angeles the weather changes 10 miles inland. Its not like the east coast where its only a couple degrees difference. That's why Tijuana is so hot sometimes when downtown San Diego isn't.That is an effect of the California Current.

[LuvMexicanas]

You guys can review my Whatsapp Account, Credit Card Statements, Airbnb. Whatever you need, again we will see who is lying. Better yet, I am in MTY this weekend and next. You and Dr. Clam. , can combine your money and send him to MTY, he can verify everything, this would be real research. I will even buy him dinner.

I actually like Dr. Clam. , at least he does not lie and make things up. Yes Rosarito sucks, but you probably like it, you are the guy banging street girls. This is why you thought the girl were so hot in Kiev. Kind of funny the things you forget. Again I have asked 4 times how many times you have actually been to Kiev? I am not sure why this is so hard to answer. I was hanging out in Moscow, while you were supposedly in Kiev. Scoreboard.You're trying too hard which is often an indicator of someone bending the truth. No one cares where you are this weekend or next unless it's Tijuana, as after all this is a Tijuana thread.