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01-01-00, 04:00
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Sirioja
05-02-19, 22:09
I always find the strong reaction to this question. Strange. First off, BBFS is much more dangerous to the girls than to us. So the idea that avoiding BBFS is for self-protection seems suspect. Also ask yourself if you'the expect a sugar baby to insist on safe sex? Hell, For the right amount of money I'the INSIST on BBFS LOL.Better you ask doctor if no risk for guys but only for girls?

HarvestBoi
05-03-19, 05:36
Just looked it up. Transmission rates are double for male to female (. 08% or 8 times in 10,000 fucks) while it is. 04% (4 in 10,000) for an infected female to transmit to her male partner. Frankly I thought the spread was bigger so would modify my earlier statement a little. But the chance of getting HIV from a random BBFS is quite low. When AIDS was a death sentence the stakes overwhelmed the odds. But that's not the case any longer, HIV is a treatable manageable disease now. I'm not suggesting that everybody start going raw but find the strong reaction from some quarters a bit irrational. I think BBFS represents the last moral frontier that can't be crossed for many.


Better you ask doctor if no risk for guys but only for girls?.

Sirioja
05-03-19, 10:13
Just looked it up. Transmission rates are double for male to female (. 08% or 8 times in 10,000 fucks) while it is. 04% (4 in 10,000) for an infected female to transmit to her male partner. Frankly I thought the spread was bigger so would modify my earlier statement a little. But the chance of getting HIV from a random BBFS is quite low. When AIDS was a death sentence the stakes overwhelmed the odds. But that's not the case any longer, HIV is a treatable manageable disease now. I'm not suggesting that everybody start going raw but find the strong reaction from some quarters a bit irrational. I think BBFS represents the last moral frontier that can't be crossed for many..If you meet a lovely woman in real life and she doesn't fuck with everybody but only you, I will ask her looking in the eyes and if she answer no other guy, then no problem for sex without condom. I had bloody sex with my real girlfriends with their blood on me, not a problem for me even to DATY them, but as far I know they didn't have sex with others, but are your statistics about sex with prostitutes who fuck with everybody? If a WG proposes you or sell you this kind of sex, it just mean she use this service to get more business and she will propose to others. Sometimes can happen in passion but girl will not ask you anything. I m not a specialist, I don t know in Switzerland even I know can be provided by some Globe girls, but You have AO clubs in Germany where you can for only 30 € sometimes also including anal and CIM for only 30 €, and cheap entry for sometimes only 15/20 € with drinks, sauna. Old Germans are used to these clubs. Risky, before returning to wife.

KaveMan
05-03-19, 18:55
Two points:

-Vast majority of HIV statistics include men who are not truthful about "Men having sex with Men".

-There is large amount of "fake news" about gay Men from total number; their HIV rates; to media propaganda.

Believe it or not, many gay men still do not admit they are gay; have girlfriends, wives, kids and report on survey, statistics and medical reports they are not gay.

The only reputable sources (US CDC, and WHO), I read usually separate out "MSM" or "men who have sex with men" as the vast majority of new cases of HIV.

One famous actuarial study stated that risk of a Straight Male to contract HIV from Woman who has Straight male partners is same as something random falling on your head from sky.

So, wearing a helmet all day is the actual protection risk / measure.

NoRain
06-10-20, 09:59
Two points:

-Vast majority of HIV statistics include men who are not truthful about "Men having sex with Men".

-There is large amount of "fake news" about gay Men from total number; their HIV rates; to media propaganda.

Believe it or not, many gay men still do not admit they are gay; have girlfriends, wives, kids and report on survey, statistics and medical reports they are not gay.

The only reputable sources (US CDC, and WHO), I read usually separate out "MSM" or "men who have sex with men" as the vast majority of new cases of HIV.

One famous actuarial study stated that risk of a Straight Male to contract HIV from Woman who has Straight male partners is same as something random falling on your head from sky.

So, wearing a helmet all day is the actual protection risk / measure.The reason gay men don't admit that is because they may face social boycott in their private as well as professional life.

Sirioja
06-10-20, 22:26
Two points:

-Vast majority of HIV statistics include men who are not truthful about "Men having sex with Men".

-There is large amount of "fake news" about gay Men from total number; their HIV rates; to media propaganda.

Believe it or not, many gay men still do not admit they are gay; have girlfriends, wives, kids and report on survey, statistics and medical reports they are not gay.

The only reputable sources (US CDC, and WHO), I read usually separate out "MSM" or "men who have sex with men" as the vast majority of new cases of HIV.

One famous actuarial study stated that risk of a Straight Male to contract HIV from Woman who has Straight male partners is same as something random falling on your head from sky.

So, wearing a helmet all day is the actual protection risk / measure.I think this is better to ask your doctor if having sex without condom with a prostitute fucked by everybody, is safe? I think a bit less risky with a normal woman who has sex only with you.

Vicky98
06-11-20, 05:14
The reason gay men don't admit that is because they may face social boycott in their private as well as professional life.It's still a taboo in many societies.

NoRain
06-11-20, 10:32
It's still a taboo in many societies.But some of them are opening up. Like equal rights and sane sex marriage happening in many countries.

Vicky98
06-12-20, 03:47
But some of them are opening up. Like equal rights and sane sex marriage happening in many countries.Just yesterday read Swiss government bringing gay marriage laws and making it legal.

Ecivelum
06-12-20, 11:35
But some of them are opening up. Like equal rights and sane sex marriage happening in many countries.Hmm. Don't think many countries have sane sex marriage laws, not sure how that would work LOL. But good that more and more allow same sex marriage.

NoRain
06-12-20, 15:07
Hmm. Don't think many countries have sane sex marriage laws, not sure how that would work LOL. But good that more and more allow same sex marriage.Sorry for the typo error. I wanted to write same sex marriage law.

NoRain
06-12-20, 15:09
Just yesterday read Swiss government bringing gay marriage laws and making it legal.Yes I read it too in the news. The lawmakers decided to bring the law for males who wish to have a male partner. I guess with the current protest going around the corner, more such groups are opening up for their rights.

Vicky98
06-13-20, 03:35
Yes I read it too in the news. The lawmakers decided to bring the law for males who wish to have a male partner. I guess with the current protest going around the corner, more such groups are opening up for their rights.But I don't understand the link between these two.

NoRain
06-13-20, 13:26
But I don't understand the link between these two.There is no official link, but only common thread is the discriminatory attitude to people belonging to this group, bias and sometimes crimes against the members of both community. Historically they have been abused and exploited.

Vicky98
06-14-20, 02:17
Historically they have been abused and exploited.You mean the LGBTQ people?

NoRain
06-14-20, 09:45
You mean the LGBTQ people?Of course yes. If you look at the current politics in some countries like Poland and Some Scandinavian countries they still consider sex to be between male and female. They have this belief that in Christianity relation between man to man is immoral and a sin.

Vicky98
06-15-20, 02:08
Of course yes. If you look at the current politics in some countries like Poland and Some Scandinavian countries they still consider sex to be between male and female. They have this belief that in Christianity relation between man to man is immoral and a sin.True, saw that law in Poland, even in Russia they consider as wrong.

NoRain
06-15-20, 09:43
True, saw that law in Poland, even in Russia they consider as wrong.Just a strange turn of events taking place in Poland. Once the prime minister said that gay sex is illegal. Next day he says the media misquoted him and he was against any racism. I don't know what's wrong with that guy. In Russia though it's considered bad.

Vicky98
06-16-20, 03:45
Just a strange turn of events taking place in Poland. Once the prime minister said that gay sex is illegal. Next day he says the media misquoted him and he was against any racism. I don't know what's wrong with that guy. In Russia though it's considered bad.Yes they are changing their statements due to present events going on.

NoRain
06-16-20, 09:37
Yes they are changing their statements due to present events going on.Obviously it sends a wrong signal to the community. And on top of that various human rights and legal scrutiny is hard to tackle. In fact in some countries, you can't even access or discuss those things online.

Vicky98
06-17-20, 06:32
Obviously it sends a wrong signal to the community. And on top of that various human rights and legal scrutiny is hard to tackle. In fact in some countries, you can't even access or discuss those things online.Like China?

NoRain
06-17-20, 10:34
Like China?Well that's an Orwellian state and don't expect anything normal. Yes they are very strict with that issue and they ban all such activities.

Vicky98
06-18-20, 02:35
Well that's an Orwellian state and don't expect anything normal. Yes they are very strict with that issue and they ban all such activities.Even I guess more strict will be North Korea.

NoRain
06-18-20, 11:16
Even I guess more strict will be North Korea.Yes of course, that way more hidden society. They give capital punishment in such cases.