Stupid Shit in Bogota

[ShooBree]

And yet here you are, still calling non-MAGAt a douche, and still waiting to go where douches go.Yikes, that's really funny. Not.

[MarquisdeSade1]

Good post, MDS! And the douches with all their directives and mandates still think they have the answer.

I posted in the other thread the JNJ vaccine was now down to 3% effective and Pfizer in June was down to 39%.

But you always get this crap, "The two-dose vaccine still works very well in preventing people from getting seriously sick, demonstrating 88% effectiveness against hospitalization and 91% effectiveness against severe illness, according to the Israeli data. "

Well, then why are the death rates going up?

At this point, it is like we are Charlie Brown and the "scientists" are Lucy. The ball we are trying to kick is the "and everything will be back to normal once you kick the ball. " If the douches want to kick the ball, they can have at it, but they insist we do as well and scream at us that we are not team players.

With the latest crap, the booster, the same fucking thing is going to happen. There will be a new variant and the vaccine will not work as well and then you will be forced to get a new shot and on and on. That is why there were 4 spots on the vaccine card, and you are right. The new ones likely will have 20..I believe I was one of the 1st in the world vaxed at the you of Chgo with Moderna, I've been vaxed 4 x.

I hate to admit it, but feel I was duped, had I known the country would be sodomized by the oligarchs in Nov and Biden would have vax mandates.

I would not have gotten any vaxs.

I was hoodwinked, and it will never happen again.

I'm 54 in perfect health, I was naive and regret it.

https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/rfk-anthonyfauci-freedom-speech/2021/11/23/id/1045942/

https://amgreatness.com/2021/11/16/gay-pariahs-unvaccinated-pariahs-the-left-and-the-truth/

[Elvis 2008]

And yet here you are still waiting to go where douches go.WTF are you talking about? I go wherever I want.

In fact, if you knew anything about my hobbying habits, I have given them up. I know you douches imagine with all your pro-feminazi BS policies that have made women insufferable in the USA and your pro-choice leanings think that you have the women all locked up, but you do not. You seem to think I am pro-Republican retard but I am not, I am just anti-douche (and anti Republican retard). Unlike all you hypocrites, I am pro-choice on everything douche.

The notion that I am banging a woman who other guys have called a 10 who is a 10 in bed and gets pissed if she does not get it from me 3 X a day is something your little pea brain cannot handle. Of course, the next question is how much am I paying her? Again, the answer that she has asked for nothing is something your little pea brain cannot handle either, and we see each other every 2 to 4 weeks.

First off, there will be the denial about her but outside of your political leanings and desire to believe I am wrong, there is nothing to support that I am lying. If you actually met her and saw how she is with me, you would really lose it. Hell, you would probably ask "Why are you with him instead of a douche like me?

Maybe if you turned off your libtard news channels and actually went out and talked to women, you would learn something, and the first thing would be to drop this notion of intellectual superiority because of your political views. That does not make you smart but an arrogant as fuck douche.

But like everything else, you will proclaim I am lying and go lick your wounds with your fellow douches who will assure you that I cannot possibly be telling the truth. Do you think I care? I do not have to discuss anything with you and your fellow douches to get your POV. All I have to do is watch MSNBC but with me, your anti choice Covid policies IMO are just as dumb as the new abortion law in Texas.

You keep trying to put me in a box and if you are doing that with me, you are doing that with women. Lesson #1 with women is to treat them as individuals and not like focus groups douche.

[MarquisdeSade1]

Gee, I wonder why. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/26/opinion/coronavirus-trump.html.

Let's call it the Trump virus in February 2020. So from day fucking one, you douches were blaming Republicans for the virus.

And you are so fucking arrogant you actually think you Democratic douches care more about human life than Republicans.

So we should just roll our sleeves up and let you and your "scientists" inject whatever you want? No one should be given any choice? We should just wear masks and lockdown forever ETC when there have been 146.6 million cases. When is it going to end? What does victory look like?

There is no plan and there never has been one. All your fucking plan was and has been was to blame Republicans for all the deaths and destruction.

And for the people actually who created the virus and spread it to the world AKA Fauci and the Chinese? With you fucking douches, that is still a theory not enough proof out there and why?

Because it gets in the way of your fucked up plot to blame all the death and destruction on Republicans.

Playing partisan politics with a deadly virus is a sure fire way to get it to spread, and you douches have been doing that since day one.I see you call these arrogant, IMO you can't be a low IQ mental midget and be arrogant, they're just stoopid and they are so stoopid they don't even know it.

IMO to be arrogant you need to have something to be arrogant about and it needs to more than offset any deficiencies you have.

IE, ever see some of the doods they hire in porn? Mio dios where do there find those hideous freaks.

So in closing I think maybe pretentiousness is mas apropos.

[MarquisdeSade1]

Good post, MDS! And the douches with all their directives and mandates still think they have the answer.

I posted in the other thread the JNJ vaccine was now down to 3% effective and Pfizer in June was down to 39%.

But you always get this crap, "The two-dose vaccine still works very well in preventing people from getting seriously sick, demonstrating 88% effectiveness against hospitalization and 91% effectiveness against severe illness, according to the Israeli data. "

Well, then why are the death rates going up?

At this point, it is like we are Charlie Brown and the "scientists" are Lucy. The ball we are trying to kick is the "and everything will be back to normal once you kick the ball. " If the douches want to kick the ball, they can have at it, but they insist we do as well and scream at us that we are not team players..There will be a new variant and the vaccine will not work as well and then you will be forced to get a new shot and on and on. That is why there were 4 spots on the vaccine card, and you are right. The new ones likely will have 20.

[Dcfan77]

Tip #1 for Santa Fe international pussy seekers.

A street girl in Santa Fe ask 40 mil = 11 $ (1 $=3,886.70 pesos).

When you are bargaining with them for 5 mil you are losing your face in front of a prostitute for 1 USD.

What you should do? Say I give you $5 tips if you do good.

More tips are coming.A tip? See this is why y'all keep fucking up the game with this tipping shit!! Ain't no colombiano tipping SF street meat. WTF is wrong with y'all!!

[Igor54]

A tip? See this is why y'all keep fucking up the game with this tipping shit!! Ain't no colombiano tipping SF street meat. WTF is wrong with y'all!!My friend, just try to be a man. They are people too. And if it makes difference for you to pay more or less than 1 $ USD. It means that your price is in that range. I don't care if you pay or not. It is up to you. As well, I don't care what Colombiano do. If you want to show that you are a macho, it is just in your head only. You are trying to be a macho for 1 $USD and it's cheap. And say thank you to the girls because with you price around 1 $, if not the girls for 10 $, you would play with your dick to the end of your life. I am no sure if Admin will publish my post. Admin. Be a man and publish it.

[Silver Turtle]

There will be a new variant and the vaccine will not work as well and then you will be forced to get a new shot and on and on. That is why there were 4 spots on the vaccine card, and you are right. The new ones likely will have 20.I have no interest in you guys' discussion, but the title of post "ISG Nostradamus" is hilarious! I laughed with tears.

[LatinaLover#1]

Gee, I wonder why. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/26/opinion/coronavirus-trump.html.

Let's call it the Trump virus in February 2020. So from day fucking one, you douches were blaming Republicans for the virus.

And you are so fucking arrogant you actually think you Democratic douches care more about human life than Republicans.

So we should just roll our sleeves up and let you and your "scientists" inject whatever you want? No one should be given any choice? We should just wear masks and lockdown forever ETC when there have been 146.6 million cases. When is it going to end? What does victory look like?

There is no plan and there never has been one. All your fucking plan was and has been was to blame Republicans for all the deaths and destruction.

And for the people actually who created the virus and spread it to the world AKA Fauci and the Chinese? With you fucking douches, that is still a theory not enough proof out there and why?

Because it gets in the way of your fucked up plot to blame all the death and destruction on Republicans.

Playing partisan politics with a deadly virus is a sure fire way to get it to spread, and you douches have been doing that since day one."Let's call it the Trump virus in February 2020. So from day fucking one, you douches were blaming Republicans for the virus. ".

Remember it was the 10,000 or so at Trump rallies that was a SUPER SPREADER but a million or more of illegal, un-vaccinated, untested, packed into box cars, no toilet facilities, unwashed hands and unmasked throngs dispersed throughout the USA, have no effect on the rise of this pandemic. The one saving grace for this country is that the Democratic Party is the Gang who can't shoot straight and they will lose big in the coming elections. I doubt it's possible for them to steal enough votes this time.

[ScatManDoo]

WTF are you talking about? I go wherever I want.

In fact, if you knew anything about my hobbying habits, I have given them up. I know you douches imagine with all your pro-feminazi BS policies that have made women insufferable in the USA and your pro-choice leanings think that you have the women all locked up, but you do not. You seem to think I am pro-Republican retard but I am not, I am just anti-douche (and anti Republican retard). Unlike all you hypocrites, I am pro-choice on everything douche.

The notion that I am banging a woman who other guys have called a 10 who is a 10 in bed and gets pissed if she does not get it from me 3 X a day is something your little pea brain cannot handle. Of course, the next question is how much am I paying her? Again, the answer that she has asked for nothing is something your little pea brain cannot handle either, and we see each other every 2 to 4 weeks.

First off, there will be the denial about her but outside of your political leanings and desire to believe I am wrong, there is nothing to support that I am lying. If you actually met her and saw how she is with me, you would really lose it. Hell, you would probably ask "Why are you with him instead of a douche like me?

Maybe if you turned off your libtard news channels and actually went out and talked to women, you would learn something, and the first thing would be to drop this notion of intellectual superiority because of your political views. That does not make you smart but an arrogant as fuck douche..You have left no doubt.

That you live in a fantasy world.

[ShooBree]

A tip? See this is why y'all keep fucking up the game with this tipping shit!! Ain't no colombiano tipping SF street meat. WTF is wrong with y'all!!You're so right, but I think he is just a troll as he comes off way too stupid and ignorant to be a real person.

[PVMonger]

You have left no doubt.

That you live in a fantasy world.He lives in a fantasy world with his favorite product. A douche.

[Elvis 2008]

You have left no doubt.

That you live in a fantasy world.I have had my debates and arguments with people but with you, it is just personal insults. That you are on ignore now is a given. You are not just a troll quoting a 4 week old post of mine, but a worthless Democratic douche POS who should be banned for good. Your insults are boring, and I know worms with more self worth than you.

[PVMonger]

I have had my debates and arguments with people but with you, it is just personal insults. That you are on ignore now is a given. You are not just a troll quoting a 4 week old post of mine, but a worthless Democratic douche POS who should be banned for good. Your insults are boring, and I know worms with more self worth than you.And every douche has been in more pussy than you.

[Elvis 2008]

And every douche has been in more pussy than you.LOL. We just had Paulie the douche talk about the importance of wearing polo shirts and khakis in Medellin and not wearing shorts for purposes of "not being a target". I am not sure what "not being a target" means. I guess it means you are less likely to get ripped off or drugged. It is funny I have never had a problem with that, and I can spot an American a mile away in Colombia. The dress code may work until you open your mouth. Maybe you douches think you can pass as Colombians if you use sign language.

A $100 in Santa Fe would net me more pussy than I want, and $200 would make me sick of it. So you douches now are bragging about not being drugged and more pussy and thinking you guys look like Colombians? Uh okay. What is next? You breathe better than me? Does your diet have more fiber? The game in my mind is getting quality pussy and so you should be bragging that you are getting better pussy than me, but you douches do not know the game.

And while you douches are not wearing shorts thinking you are culturally superior, the president has said he wants you sex tourists gone, so you cannot be both. You cannot be getting the most pussy and not be culturally insensitive sex tourists. If you wear khakis and use google translate and ferret three women a day to a sex hotel, you are not fooling anyone.

So yeah, I agree. You douches make great sex tourists, way better than me. All I am doing is supporting a single mom and her kid.

[ScatManDoo]

LOL. We just had Paulie the douche talk about the importance of wearing polo shirts and khakis in Medellin and not wearing shorts for purposes of "not being a target". I am not sure what "not being a target" means. I guess it means you are less likely to get ripped off or drugged. It is funny I have never had a problem with that, and I can spot an American a mile away in Colombia. The dress code may work until you open your mouth. Maybe you douches think you can pass as Colombians if you use sign language.

A $100 in Santa Fe would net me more pussy than I want, and $200 would make me sick of it. So you douches now are bragging about not being drugged and more pussy and thinking you guys look like Colombians? Uh okay. What is next? You breathe better than me? Does your diet have more fiber? The game in my mind is getting quality pussy and so you should be bragging that you are getting better pussy than me, but you douches do not know the game.

And while you douches are not wearing shorts thinking you are culturally superior, the president has said he wants you sex tourists gone, so you cannot be both. You cannot be getting the most pussy and not be culturally insensitive sex tourists. If you wear khakis and use google translate and ferret three women a day to a sex hotel, you are not fooling anyone..Has Juan Carlos been thanking you for feeding his kid?

[Elvis 2008]

Miami Boy1 is 100% correct here.Correct about what? Paying $100 a month to be on seeking to see hos?


Frankly the last few pages of posts on this thread are just bizarre- is this ISG or the beta male dating club? I'm not sure why so many of these ultra suave players who have legions of hot and ready Colombian civilian women are belittling their incredibly virile and ultra-successful selves by spending time on a pay for play forum, but mysteries abound as we enter the New Year.Yawn. As I have said with most guys, go see your hos. They are far better off paying Woodman than getting on seeking. But when you go to Santa Fe, you are not going to meet the models, engineers, and lawyers that I have met on seeking. They require a different strategy than what guys were doing.

And it is the sex guide, and you know what? Every guy on here who has really done the sugar daddy thing says the same thing, the sex is way better. That always offends guys seeing hos. "How do you know that? They ask. Because we have been you. If you do not do the GF or SD thing, you are not having the best sex.

I used seeking and had three women from the site meet me in Cancun for four days. I showed photos of the women when I was there in the SA forum, and I think guys want to know how that was done, and I am getting there. If you think that just takes money, prove me wrong. You better have real skill as a sugar daddy taking that task on. As soon as I left, the women were predictably bitching about other.

Oh and with each woman, I promised them no cash up front and gave them a whopping $200 when we were done. So what now? You going to say you are not interested in that and no one is?

Quit trying to direct traffic and put me on ignore if you do not like what I am saying.

[Elvis 2008]

I was trying to show that there is an alternative to working girl fucking by the hour and a better experience with an educated stylish woman, that even a dweeb from the states can get a non pro / chipper with a little knowledge and a different mind set to make it happen. IF he WANTS IT! If it's not for you and not interested, skip over the post.LL, like you, the brothels and places like SF were cool at first, but there were times the fucking got boring. It's like I love my burgers, but they are mass produced, and I want a meal that is made just for me, nothing like home cooking from a skilled woman.

I hope you do not let the cretins push you away. Honestly, some of the guys who are so interested in pushing the sugar baby model aside IMO may be benefiting in other ways and have a reason to push the agenda they do.

I said this to Captain Solo elsewhere. Colombia really is not that great if you are just doing P4 P. I think you can get just as good for as cheap in Mexico and it is less hassle to go there.

For the sugar lifestyle, the women want much less than Mexicans want and way less than the USA women, but you are still in the john-ho world if you think in terms of price. The real reason to have a Colombian woman IMO is the affection they show the men they like / love. Routard mentioned this in his epic review of Bogota, and I just cannot imagine a guy not wanting that. From what I have seen, they are the most giving women in and out of the bedroom in the world.

I was with one of my gals and like all of them, and we are looking at people picnicking in the country side, and she says, "They are Colombians. They are happy. " Have you ever heard anyone say that about Americans? I would say about Americans, "They are Americans, they are medicated to deal with reality. " I think half the population is on some drug to affect mood. What in our lives is so bad we need drugs?

The guys who are so paranoid about Colombian women are hanging out in the gutter, Santa Fe in Bogota and centro in Medellin. That is fine for a quickie, but why stay there? I just want guys to see the Colombia I do because it is so fucking awesome, and I wish guys would quit with the excuses.

I wish guys could meet Don Carlos and me and see how we are. What separates Don from other guys here is that he is fun company but he thinks he is worthy of the hotties. You will never here him using looks or money as an excuse for not getting a hottie. Even if he lost one to that, he would be onto the next one in no time.

[MiamiBoy1]

Correct about what? Paying $100 a month to be on seeking to see hos?

Yawn. As I have said with most guys, go see your hos. They are far better off paying Woodman than getting on seeking. But when you go to Santa Fe, you are not going to meet the models, engineers, and lawyers that I have met on seeking. They require a different strategy than what guys were doing.

And it is the sex guide, and you know what? Every guy on here who has really done the sugar daddy thing says the same thing, the sex is way better. That always offends guys seeing hos. "How do you know that? They ask. Because we have been you. If you do not do the GF or SD thing, you are not having the best sex.

I used seeking and had three women from the site meet me in Cancun for four days. I showed photos of the women when I was there in the SA forum, and I think guys want to know how that was done, and I am getting there. If you think that just takes money, prove me wrong. You better have real skill as a sugar daddy taking that task on. As soon as I left, the women were predictably bitching about other.

Oh and with each woman, I promised them no cash up front and gave them a whopping $200 when we were done. So what now? You going to say you are not interested in that and no one is?

Quit trying to direct traffic and put me on ignore if you do not like what I am saying.What's wrong with paying $100/ month? Maybe it doesn't make much sense for someone going to Colombia for a weekend, but if one stays there longer, SA can save him a lot of money (on cost per fuck or cost per hour basis). I'm not against using SA, in fact, I'm opposed to street WG, casa girls, Lleras girls and think SA girls are of higher quality and provide better overall experience. Gringos are paying Lleras WG 250-300 mil cop PER HOUR OR 1 POP and usually get lousy service. We all know these are the same girls working El Centro daytime and charging a fraction of that price, sucking multiple dicks a day. Casa girls are cheap, but no GFE, get banged multiple times a day, and this is not appealing to me. My SA dates are not doctors and lawyers, just regular young girls working at Burger King, etc. Or college students, or unemployed, and I'm fine with that as long as they are sexually attractive and fun in bed. I don't need to discuss politics, economy or rocket science with them, I don't need them to have a successful career, etc. All I need is to have a great time and fun. My SA dates are not freebies though, yes, I pay them, otherwise they probably won't fuck me, and I'm fine with that. But paying on average 300-350 mil, I usually get much better service, I'm not in a rush / have no time constraints, some girls stay overnight with no problem, others don't, but still stay for multiple hours. I understand that they don't see me exclusively, but I'm confident they are low volume compared to casa / lleras WG, and never have more than 1 date per night.

What me and Zebra are sick and tired of, are these BS fairy tales about some 60+ yo out of shape gringos fucking 9's and 10's fitness models who provide complete GFE with BBBJCIMCIPBBFS you name it, who never ask for a dime, whom they pay nothing or bring a bottle of cheap body lotion LOL. Seriously? She "can't get enough of your dick" like your dick is different from others dicks in town? Seeking is not a dating site, it has never been, it is a platform that was designed for SB and SD specifically to find each other and come to some type of arrangement. But these days it has become a ho platform, where anyone can register and buy / sell pussy. No screening, no verifications, nothing. I have said it already in my other post, based on my and my friends' experience with Seeking, the vast majority of SB are pros or semi-pros, at least in the 18-23 yo range. Good luck finding a freebie upper class working professional there, you will have much more luck with Cupid or even Tinder.

[NeilGeorge]

What's wrong with paying $100/ month? Maybe it doesn't make much sense for someone going to Colombia for a weekend, but if one stays there longer, SA can save him a lot of money (on cost per fuck or cost per hour basis). I'm not against using SA, in fact, I'm opposed to street WG, casa girls, Lleras girls and think SA girls are of higher quality and provide better overall experience. Gringos are paying Lleras WG 250-300 mil cop PER HOUR OR 1 POP and usually get lousy service. We all know these are the same girls working El Centro daytime and charging a fraction of that price, sucking multiple dicks a day. Casa girls are cheap, but no GFE, get banged multiple times a day, and this is not appealing to me. My SA dates are not doctors and lawyers, just regular young girls working at Burger King, etc. Or college students, or unemployed, and I'm fine with that as long as they are sexually attractive and fun in bed. I don't need to discuss politics, economy or rocket science with them, I don't need them to have a successful career, etc. All I need is to have a great time and fun. My SA dates are not freebies though, yes, I pay them, otherwise they probably won't fuck me, and I'm fine with that. But paying on average 300-350 mil, I usually get much better service, I'm not in a rush / have no time constraints, some girls stay overnight with no problem, others don't, but still stay for multiple hours. I understand that they don't see me exclusively, but I'm confident they are low volume compared to casa / lleras WG, and never have more than 1 date per night.

What me and Zebra are sick and tired of, are these BS fairy tales about some 60+ yo out of shape gringos fucking 9's and 10's fitness models who provide complete GFE with BBBJCIMCIPBBFS you name it, who never ask for a dime, whom they pay nothing or bring a bottle of cheap body lotion LOL. Seriously? She "can't get enough of your dick" like your dick is different from others dicks in town? Seeking is not a dating site, it has never been, it is a platform that was designed for SB and SD specifically to find each other and come to some type of arrangement. But these days it has become a ho platform, where anyone can register and buy / sell pussy..I am sure it is my personality too.

[LatinaLover#1]

What's wrong with paying $100/ month? Maybe it doesn't make much sense for someone going to Colombia for a weekend, but if one stays there longer, SA can save him a lot of money (on cost per fuck or cost per hour basis). I'm not against using SA, in fact, I'm opposed to street WG, casa girls, Lleras girls and think SA girls are of higher quality and provide better overall experience. Gringos are paying Lleras WG 250-300 mil cop PER HOUR OR 1 POP and usually get lousy service. We all know these are the same girls working El Centro daytime and charging a fraction of that price, sucking multiple dicks a day. Casa girls are cheap, but no GFE, get banged multiple times a day, and this is not appealing to me. My SA dates are not doctors and lawyers, just regular young girls working at Burger King, etc. Or college students, or unemployed, and I'm fine with that as long as they are sexually attractive and fun in bed. I don't need to discuss politics, economy or rocket science with them, I don't need them to have a successful career, etc. All I need is to have a great time and fun. My SA dates are not freebies though, yes, I pay them, otherwise they probably won't fuck me, and I'm fine with that. But paying on average 300-350 mil, I usually get much better service, I'm not in a rush / have no time constraints, some girls stay overnight with no problem, others don't, but still stay for multiple hours. I understand that they don't see me exclusively, but I'm confident they are low volume compared to casa / lleras WG, and never have more than 1 date per night.

What me and Zebra are sick and tired of, are these BS fairy tales about some 60+ yo out of shape gringos fucking 9's and 10's fitness models who provide complete GFE with BBBJCIMCIPBBFS you name it, who never ask for a dime, whom they pay nothing or bring a bottle of cheap body lotion LOL. Seriously? She "can't get enough of your dick" like your dick is different from others dicks in town? Seeking is not a dating site, it has never been, it is a platform that was designed for SB and SD specifically to find each other and come to some type of arrangement. But these days it has become a ho platform, where anyone can register and buy / sell pussy. No screening, no verifications, nothing. I have said it already in my other post, based on my and my friends' experience with Seeking, the vast majority of SB are pros or semi-pros, at least in the 18-23 yo range. Good luck finding a freebie upper class working professional there, you will have much more luck with Cupid or even Tinder.Your post is full of incorrect assumptions and generalizations. Obviously very ill informed with zero class, You have a handful of years in this hobby and now your not only a know it all but you have some kind of crystal ball that knows the age the physical shape of someone you have never met. You could not be more wrong. However I do know how the women of Bogota feel about crude, uneducated Soviet block low lifes who scrounge around the shadows of zone 1. You obviously wouldn't know the difference between a prepago and a lady. I feel sorry for you little man.

"BS fairy tales about some 60+ yo out of shape gringos fucking 9's and 10's fitness models who provide complete GFE with BBBJCIMCIPBBFS you name it, who never ask for a dime, whom they pay nothing or bring a bottle of cheap body lotion".

Your entire paragraph is full of inaccuracies and outright distortions, built by you to justify Your jealous rage, it jumps off the page. You are a complete waste of time. Your now on Ignore.

[Mr Enternational]

But if am interested in you, and you say, "Nah, I just want $100" I think you are stupid because my sugar babies do much better financially in the long run than the hos do. And how many times have you talked to a ho with a plan?

The better women want not just money but to learn how to best deploy it. I think 3 in 4 hot Colombian women if you gave them $10,000 would be broke a year later.This works other ways. Depends on what the person is looking for. There are tons of chicks saying dudes do not want a good woman. They just want a hole to fuck sometimes. Are those dudes stupid the same as the chicks that just want the $100 and run? Everybody is not in search of a long time anything. Short money and short time are just what the doctor ordered for some people.

[Member #4729]

What me and Zebra are sick and tired of, are these BS fairy tales about some 60+ yo out of shape gringos fucking 9's and 10's fitness models who provide complete GFE with BBBJCIMCIPBBFS you name it, who never ask for a dime, whom they pay nothing or bring a bottle of cheap body lotion LOL. Seriously? She "can't get enough of your dick" like your dick is different from others dicks in town? Seeking is not a dating site, it has never been, it is a platform that was designed for SB and SD specifically to find each other and come to some type of arrangement. But these days it has become a ho platform, where anyone can register and buy / sell pussy. No screening, no verifications, nothing. I have said it already in my other post, based on my and my friends' experience with Seeking, the vast majority of SB are pros or semi-pros, at least in the 18-23 yo range. Good luck finding a freebie upper class working professional there, you will have much more luck with Cupid or even Tinder.Elvis, the issue here has never been SA- which is a totally legitimate methodology and subject of inquiry here on ISG- the issue has been the confabulations, disinformation, and tall tales distributed by one particular poster under the umbrella of that subject. The conceit, for example, that this poster is so irresistible that they could procure all manner of sexual favors and GFE from gorgeous Colombian Civilian Lawyer / Doctors / Circuit Court Judges / Vice President of the Country for a cheap bottle of skin cream or kids toy.

To illustrate the ridiculousness of this bad advice I've composed a list of a few more items that denizens of this fantasyland universe can use to melt the hearts and make these extremely super-duper high quality women swoon:

A day old slice of pepperoni pizza.

A ball of twine.

2 issues of "Marie Claire" found in a Doctors office.

A coupon for a free meal at Denny's with the purchase of one of equal or greater value.

A gallon of flat white paint (semi-gloss).

10 lbs of kitty litter.

Some old coins in a dirty jar.

Ovaltine.

A box of tissues for wiping away the cope tears.

Anyone else want to add to this list?

[Elvis 2008]

What's wrong with paying $100/ month? Maybe it doesn't make much sense for someone going to Colombia for a weekend, but if one stays there longer, SA can save him a lot of money (on cost per fuck or cost per hour basis). I'm not against using SA, in fact, I'm opposed to street WG, casa girls, Lleras girls and think SA girls are of higher quality and provide better overall experience. Gringos are paying Lleras WG 250-300 mil cop PER HOUR OR 1 POP and usually get lousy service.You know what really saves money per fuck? Having sugar babies in an arrangement who do not want to be paid to fuck but fuck you because they like you.


My SA dates are not doctors and lawyers, just regular young girls working at Burger King, etc.Yeah, that is pretty obvious.


I don't need to discuss politics, economy or rocket science with them, I don't need them to have a successful career, etc. All I need is to have a great time and fun.Yes, you think you are doing great by getting less used up hos.


My SA dates are not freebies though, yes, I pay them, otherwise they probably won't fuck me, and I'm fine with that.Yeah, that is pretty obvious too.


What me and Zebra are sick and tired of, are these BS fairy tales about some 60+ yo out of shape gringos fucking 9's and 10's fitness models who provide complete GFE with BBBJCIMCIPBBFS you name it, who never ask for a dime, whom they pay nothing or bring a bottle of cheap body lotion LOL. Seriously?S.

Yeah, I am serious junior. And I would be sick of hearing about 60 year old men getting their dicks sucked for free by hotties if I tried and failed too. The women should like a 30 something stud like me right?


eeking is not a dating site, it has never been, it is a platform that was designed for SB and SD specifically to find each other and come to some type of arrangement. But these days it has become a ho platformBecause when you used it as a dating platform, it did not go so well right?

You think I did not notice you did not mention a price first and the bottle of wine? Didn't you say all the seeking hos needed a price up front, or they would not come?

As for the typical rants about hos only caring about money, you are at best offering them $100. I am offering a better career path that would net them millions over their lifetime. Whose dick do you think they want to suck? The guy offering $100 or $2 million?

You are right in that your less used hos would not be interested in my offer. The only ones interested are the ones who work hard, take risks, and listen. Your hos just tell you what you want to hear so they can get your money.

And it is obvious to me that your "conversations" are the same as what you do here. Telling women how it is, and they say nothing and just nod right? It is pretty obvious to me you have issues seeing working girls and want them to affirm your views of the world. I am not a loser for seeing hos because all women are hos right? They have a 100 X more problems than you do. You should be affirming that they are okay not the other way around.

You are not being a male role model. You are not being a daddy. You are being a john and are treated as such. It could not be more obvious to me why you are a failure with seeking. You have no game.

[DramaFree11]

You know what really saves money per fuck? Having sugar babies in an arrangement who do not want to be paid to fuck but fuck you because they like you.

Yeah, that is pretty obvious.

Yes, you think you are doing great by getting less used up hos.

Yeah, that is pretty obvious too.

S.

Yeah, I am serious junior. And I would be sick of hearing about 60 year old men getting their dicks sucked for free by hotties if I tried and failed too. The women should like a 30 something stud like me right?

Because when you used it as a dating platform, it did not go so well right?

You think I did not notice you did not mention a price first and the bottle of wine? Didn't you say all the seeking hos needed a price up front, or they would not come?.Yep, M. Boy has complained on several pages. He has complained on all these pages, SA, Colombian, and Mexican. I am sure there are other pages. It usually has to do with money. The funny things is that myself and others are having great times in those destinations, but he always seems to have problems there or the girls are not good looking enough for him.

We all pay for sex, some more some less. What he should be worried about is having amazing experiences and meeting great people.

[Elvis 2008]

Elvis, the issue here has never been SA- which is a totally legitimate methodology and subject of inquiry here on ISG- the issue has been the confabulations, disinformation, and tall tales distributed by one particular poster under the umbrella of that subject. The conceit, for example, that this poster is so irresistible that they could procure all manner of sexual favors and GFE from gorgeous Colombian Civilian Lawyer / Doctors / Circuit Court Judges / Vice President of the Country for a cheap bottle of skin cream or kids toy.Fair enough. Finding a woman worthy of an investment of time and money is damned hard work, but there are women out there who are worthy. They are rare but they are there, and you are going to get ripped off, you are going to get stood up and the like on your journey. If you are on a journey to find the best, it should not be easy.

What my goal is to tell guys what worked. I hear the same crap all the time. Women want money and looks. I do not think that is that important. I think it is faith and endurance. Colombia has higher yields than the USA and greater rewards so I didn't talk about how hard it is because in comparison it was easier.

I posted some of what I did to increase yields. Stay in a nice place, wear a suit, talk about them, treat them like you are interviewing them for a position, and ironically I would say do not buy gifts. It reeks of desperation and were a negative yield for me. They have great yield once you have established the relationship, but I do not think they would get a quality women into bed.

[MiamiBoy1]

Elvis, the issue here has never been SA- which is a totally legitimate methodology and subject of inquiry here on ISG- the issue has been the confabulations, disinformation, and tall tales distributed by one particular poster under the umbrella of that subject. The conceit, for example, that this poster is so irresistible that they could procure all manner of sexual favors and GFE from gorgeous Colombian Civilian Lawyer / Doctors / Circuit Court Judges / Vice President of the Country for a cheap bottle of skin cream or kids toy.

To illustrate the ridiculousness of this bad advice I've composed a list of a few more items that denizens of this fantasyland universe can use to melt the hearts and make these extremely super-duper high quality women swoon:

A day old slice of pepperoni pizza.

A ball of twine.

2 issues of "Marie Claire" found in a Doctors office.

A coupon for a free meal at Denny's with the purchase of one of equal or greater value.

A gallon of flat white paint (semi-gloss).

10 lbs of kitty litter.

Some old coins in a dirty jar.

Ovaltine.

A box of tissues for wiping away the cope tears.

Anyone else want to add to this list?Free one-on-one coaching class on how to make $2 million over the lifetime.

[Igor54]

Free one-on-one coaching class on how to make $2 million over the lifetime.I have never used SA for girls. I see they have models, engineers and lawyers who can't find a nice Colombian dick and on this reason choose US aged mongers. Do SA has a psychiatrists? I need one.

[MiamiBoy1]

You are not being a male role model. You are not being a daddy. You are being a john and are treated as such. It could not be more obvious to me why you are a failure with seeking. You have no game.What are you trying to prove here? That someone who has no game should refrain from using Seeking? That someone who uses Seeking to find hos is a loser? What made you think that I'm a "failure with seeking"? The fact that I was not able to score freebies? Look, my goal has always been to meet attractive young women and have a great time with them, in and out of bedroom. And that has been accomplished many times, I have had a good number of great dates since I started using SA. It has been a bumpy ride though, I've been flaked on, I've met girls that did not look like pics, girls that did not deliver, etc. These are very common issues every SA member faces on a regular basis. Despite these issues, my overall experience with Seeking was not bad at all, I have built a small stable of girls with whom I have good chemistry in each city. I do not consider all of this a failure, rather a learning curve. There is a recent report in the Medellin thread by Maximus, who had been using SA exclusively during his last trip. I'm doing exactly the same, finding and meeting GFE providers off SA, because we are both not into El Centro / SF / casas / strip clubs scene. He also had a few issues, especially with communication, a few bad dates, but his overall experience was decent. There is nothing wrong with paying $100/ month SA membership to procure GFE services, which are hard to find elsewhere. You and Dramafree need to relax and understand that not each and every monger has game, social skills and time to score freebies, and that SA is a much better alternative to street / casa action.

Dramafree, do you know why your posts are removed my the admin on a regular basis? And yeah, yeah, we already know, Moscow, Mexico rock, Kiev sucks, Colombian women are shit, no need to repeat this in every post.

[DramaFree11]

What are you trying to prove here? That someone who has no game should refrain from using Seeking? That someone who uses Seeking to find hos is a loser? What made you think that I'm a "failure with seeking"? The fact that I was not able to score freebies? Look, my goal has always been to meet attractive young women and have a great time with them, in and out of bedroom. And that has been accomplished many times, I have had a good number of great dates since I started using SA. It has been a bumpy ride though, I've been flaked on, I've met girls that did not look like pics, girls that did not deliver, etc. These are very common issues every SA member faces on a regular basis. Despite these issues, my overall experience with Seeking was not bad at all, I have built a small stable of girls with whom I have good chemistry in each city. I do not consider all of this a failure, rather a learning curve. There is a recent report in the Medellin thread by Maximus, who had been using SA exclusively during his last trip. I'm doing exactly the same, finding and meeting GFE providers off SA, because we are both not into El Centro / SF / casas / strip clubs scene. He also had a few issues, especially with communication, a few bad dates, but his overall experience was decent. There is nothing wrong with paying $100/ month SA membership to procure GFE services, which are hard to find elsewhere. You and Dramafree need to relax and understand that not each and every monger has game, social skills and time to score freebies, and that SA is a much better alternative to street / casa action.

Dramafree, do you know why your posts are removed my the admin on a regular basis? And yeah, yeah, we already know, Moscow, Mexico rock, Kiev sucks, Colombian women are shit, no need to repeat this in every post.Actually a somewhat positive and humble report, good job. Slight correction, most of my experience is with girls from MDE. I have met very few girls from Bogota and I am sure I be way more attracted to the girls there.

Yes, it is very interesting how some of my reports are being deleted. Most are complimenting people and agreeing with there post. In fact, one of the recent reports that was deleted was telling you wrote a good report. Something is obviously up. Ever since I started agreeing with Captain Reports, on Colombia, mine get deleted.

[Elvis 2008]

What are you trying to prove here? That someone who has no game should refrain from using Seeking? That someone who uses Seeking to find hos is a loser? What made you think that I'm a "failure with seeking"? The fact that I was not able to score freebies? Look, my goal has always been to meet attractive young women and have a great time with them, in and out of bedroom. And that has been accomplished many times, I have had a good number of great dates since I started using SA. It has been a bumpy ride though, I've been flaked on, I've met girls that did not look like pics, girls that did not deliver, etc. These are very common issues every SA member faces on a regular basis. Despite these issues, my overall experience with Seeking was not bad at all, I have built a small stable of girls with whom I have good chemistry in each city. I do not consider all of this a failure, rather a learning curve.LOL. And now you are trying to be a sugar daddy? What happened to all the women were hos? If you go trashing SA and saying what you are, there is a much bigger risk of them being shut down, and that is not in your interest. I do not think you should underestimate the will of the anti-trafficking crowd.

On top of that, look at the morons you attracted with there "all women are WGs and cannot be trusted" schtick. Being in an arrangement with women is based on trust and spouting off this all women are not trustworthy crap is hurting the chances of men here being open minded and getting in a great arrangement like I have. And when you are screaming "all women are hos", you are not only insulting my current gal and my mother but your own. Is your mother a ho? Then why say it?

Of course, this is loser speak. The guys who cannot work out relationships with women scream that and blame women for their own shortcomings. Yes, there are women who will lie, steal you blind ETC, but if you do not learn from those experiences, you are not going to recognize and appreciate the ones who are not like that. Every woman I have ever met hates it when put on pedestals or called evil. The women want to be known not labeled.

And stop with all this alpha "I am going to tell it like is". How many times did you bluster forth and say you had to pay to have a woman come see you? Two? Three? And then a woman comes and sees you without an agreement to be paid up front. Do you say you were wrong? Of course not. You bullshit again after you cannot close the deal with all the women are hos.

Look, MB, you have the intelligence, the drive, and the money to get where I am, but you are a complete fucking pussy when it comes the endurance. Instead of taking the girl's rejection as a learning experience, you rail on the woman which is what a loser does and go back to your bitching which no one wants to hear. Why couldn't you close the deal? And do not start with this "I am fine with it" crap. You would not have wined and dined her and pursued her if that was true. And if she was a 100% ho, she would have wanted a price up front.

I know why you failed. You tried your bullshit alpha "let me tell you how it is" crap, and she charged you 250 k for the sex and 50 k for having to listen to you and pretend to be one of your fake beta followers.

Instead of just saying "you are hot" and I want you for a sugar baby, you should be assessing her, kicking the tires, looking for flaws. You are a daddy looking to adopt, making an investment of time and money. What do I want from her? An arrangement? A quick lay? Or nothing?

In most cases, I did not even have to offer anything to the women. All the women had to do was meet me and see I was not full of shit in most cases.

And what are you doing? The worst thing you can do, bullshitting. Last post excluded, all your previous posts on SA fall in the category of bullshit. You know how you can never be accused of being a bullshit artist? By asking questions, saying little, and listening. The women are not hos; they just think you are a bullshit artist, and the irony is you are not, but you sure as hell come across as one.

[Blue Touch]

As other posts said, very few people wear masks in Santa Fe and many people are sick. People and the girls are sniffing and coughing, and they stand / sit right next to you in bars / restaurants and on the street. They spit and throw runny nose on street, and they don't care if it will hit you. Very few of these people go to clinics and take Covid tests. Hotel employees are sick too.

The area is windy and dusty, and there are many unclean guys. The girls are cheap- US $ 8-15. I am not sure if it's worth even if it's free.

[Woodman09]

As other posts said, very few people wear masks in Santa Fe and many people are sick. People and the girls are sniffing and coughing, and they stand / sit right next to you in bars / restaurants and on the street. They spit and throw runny nose on street, and they don't care if it will hit you. Very few of these people go to clinics and take Covid tests. Hotel employees are sick too.

The area is windy and dusty, and there are many unclean guys. The girls are cheap- US $ 8-15. I am not sure if it's worth even if it's free.What a Ridiculous post-- Not sure where you were-- No one is walking / working while sick in Santa Fe. You obviously have some covid neurosis going on-- Not sure why you would even come to Colombia the way you are.

[Blue Touch]

What a Ridiculous post-- Not sure where you were-- No one is walking / working while sick in Santa Fe. You obviously have some covid neurosis going on-- Not sure why you would even come to Colombia the way you are.You have been promoting Santa Fe and presenting a very optimistic picture of the area for your business of guiding for gringos in Santa Fe.

I presented an unbiased and neutral description of the area and my buddies agree with the description. There are so many sick people there, and other posters, including you, agree with it. You mentioned that you were infected with covid more than 4 times. I wish good luck for your guiding business in Santa Fe, but people need to read unbiased and accurate information.


Had covid several times, still here like 99.9% of the population who have had it.
A lot of people do not wear masks people here are not neurotic like in the US. I had caught covid again about 10 days ago. Guess it was the omicron? Basically like the a couple of the times before I have been sick it was a bad flu for 24 hours. Like the Majority of the Billions who have had it.

I think the viagra I use helps with my recovery thinning the blood and breaking down microclots I have read.

[Voodoo Jones]

What the hell is going on with the all the in-fighting in this thread? Who cares how people spend their time and efforts as long as we're having fun. Some people want short flings, others want something more. This would be my first time taking a solo trip of this kind, so I have a couple prospects for both categories. Maybe some will work out, some won't, but that's part of the game and I'll learn for next time.

[Frogg]

Beware of anyone that calls any 3rd world RLD "It's extremely safe".

I've been there and think anyone that thinks its extremely safe is a fool and is going to find it isn't.

Telling the whole world on ISG SF is extremely safe is extremely reckless at best.We are not talking about the 3rd world, but a certain neigborhood in a certain city. We are trying to find an accurate measure: extremely safe or extremely dangerous is not true of Santa Fe but somewhere in between. So called 1st world country the United States has cities with dangerous neighboorhoods where people are killed regularly. I feel safer in Santa Fe than in many areas of Los Angeles my hometown. Some of us are willing to die for adventure, risk taking and danger is what we seek. So stop the fear mongering. If you are afraid of Santa Fe and of Colombia then stay home and bake cookies.

[MarquisdeSade1]

We are not talking about the 3rd world, but a certain neigborhood in a certain city. We are trying to find an accurate measure: extremely safe or extremely dangerous is not true of Santa Fe but somewhere in between. So called 1st world country the United States has cities with dangerous neighboorhoods where people are killed regularly. I feel safer in Santa Fe than in many areas of Los Angeles my hometown. Some of us are willing to die for adventure, risk taking and danger is what we seek. So stop the fear mongering. If you are afraid of Santa Fe and of Colombia then stay home and bake cookies.Firstly if SF isn't 3rd world I don't know what is.

In case you didn't know Colombia is a 3rd world country.

Did I say it was extremely dangerous? Learn how to read.

"Some of us are willing to die for adventure, risk taking and danger is what we seek".

If this is how you feel than go for it, if you are so desperate you'll die for a little pussy have at it, just don't mislead / lead others here to danger.

So where is my fear mongering? Not agreeing SF is extremely safe is fear mongering? Are you high or drunk?

[Frogg]

Firstly if SF isn't 3rd world I don't know what is.

In case you didn't know Colombia is a 3rd world country.

Did I say it was extremely dangerous? Learn how to read.

"Some of us are willing to die for adventure, risk taking and danger is what we seek".

If this is how you feel than go for it, if you are so desperate you'll die for a little pussy have at it, just don't mislead / lead others here to danger.

So where is my fear mongering? Not agreeing SF is extremely safe is fear mongering? Are you high or drunk?There's no debate about Colombia being a 3rd world country, if that term still has any meaning since it is a Cold War reliq. Now the proper term is developing country.

You are the one misleading people about the danger level of the main strip of Santa Fe. I see people of all walks of life there, including regular normal people, young & old, mothers with children, even at night. If it's so dangerous, what are they doing there?

I said some people risk their lives for adventure, in a general sense, not just for pussy. Some of us are adrenaline junkies, seek danger for excitement sake. We are not all cowered into staying in the basement, even in the face of real legitimate danger.

During the covid pandemic, for instance, I still kept traveling and partying. If it cost my life and valuables so be it. Because, guess what: being alive is dangerous!

Like any major metropolian city, Bogota will have its fare share of crime. If people post here every mugging and murder, we would never run out of that material. This isn't the homicide / mugging blog. There should be a seperate thread for crime security in Bogota.

[TiaVoyage25]

My Novias brother was working in the voting polls yesterday, in Colombia if they solicit you to work the voting in Colombia you need to go or they fine you or worse. So her brother was instructed to go work in Suba, another dangerous area, his last phone was robbed so he was using his mothers phone yesterday to stay in contact with the family. He was very aggressively robbed by 3 guys, Venezuelans, at gun point and he was dressed as a local duh. No Jewelry bla bla bla A street savvy guy 24 yrs old, near the voting area. Then one guy held the gun to his head while the other 2 ripped his pockets open looking for money and stole the phone and a few pesos he had for the transmillenio. Now no phone for him or mommy. He went to a relatives house in Suba to sleep and that was the last I heard.

Listen please. People around, doesn't mean A THING, night time day time none of it is a guarantee you will be safe. Bogota, in general is a very dangerous city now. It was dangerous 10 years ago but exponentially more so in the last 3 years. I use to think it was dangerous to walk around Rua Djalma Ulrich around the corner from Help, in Copa but that was a walk in the park compared to these days in Bogota. Hopefully my experiences in Bogota will keep some guys safe and I'm sure others will thing they know it all and will continue to defy the odds but nobody knows when or where it will happen but it WILL happen sooner or later.No disrespect or offense intended, as I know without a doubt that these things happen. But on Election Day? Police were swarming EVERYWHERE and I mean on every square block, especially close to the voting booths. This election has serious implications and I read a lot about how security would be greater than usual. And I saw it. I don't know where specifically your novia's brother was walking and one can, of course, be robbed anywhere.

That being said, I have to ask. Did your novia ask you for money after this event? Again, no disrespect intended. With 40% of the population living below the poverty line people are very desperate and crime has certainly increased. Just the other day a girl on SA told me she was robbed and straight up asked me to buy her an iPhone 12. I nearly pissed myself laughing before blocking her.

In any case, the takeaway for any monger is to always be on your guard because if your novia's brother was indeed robbed, it is just further evidence that it can happen to anyone.

[MarquisdeSade1]

No disrespect or offense intended, as I know without a doubt that these things happen. But on Election Day? Police were swarming EVERYWHERE and I mean on every square block, especially close to the voting booths. This election has serious implications and I read a lot about how security would be greater than usual. And I saw it. I don't know where specifically your novia's brother was walking and one can, of course, be robbed anywhere.

That being said, I have to ask. Did your novia ask you for money after this event? Again, no disrespect intended. With 40% of the population living below the poverty line people are very desperate and crime has certainly increased. Just the other day a girl on SA told me she was robbed and straight up asked me to buy her an iPhone 12. I nearly pissed myself laughing before blocking her.

In any case, the takeaway for any monger is to always be on your guard because if your novia's brother was indeed robbed, it is just further evidence that it can happen to anyone.No offense or disrespect.

Great post I guess this settles it, you say you didn't get robbed or stabbed nor did Woodman therefore it must be safe for me and all others.

Muchas gracias for your assurances.

Post script I love the way you politely call someone a liar, pure gold.

[PedroMorales]

I've done some pretty risky shit for sex. Walking into dead end brothels in Vietnam, check, getting mugged in Latin America, check; bonking by mortar fire, check. I haven't yet fucked a chica in a polar bear enclosure but all good things in time.


Firstly if SF isn't 3rd world I don't know what is.

In case you didn't know Colombia is a 3rd world country.

Did I say it was extremely dangerous? Learn how to read.

"Some of us are willing to die for adventure, risk taking and danger is what we seek".

If this is how you feel than go for it, if you are so desperate you'll die for a little pussy have at it, just don't mislead / lead others here to danger.

So where is my fear mongering? Not agreeing SF is extremely safe is fear mongering? Are you high or drunk?

[TiaVoyage25]

No offense or disrespect.

Great post I guess this settles it, you say you didn't get robbed or stabbed nor did Woodman therefore it must be safe for me and all others.

Muchas gracias for your assurances.

Post script I love the way you politely call someone a liar, pure gold.I thought about being argumentative and highlighting your use of a logical fallacy, but that isn't really helpful to anyone.

So I'll just go ahead and clarify that just because my fortunes have been good so far does not mean that this place is safe. Danger lurks on every corner and mongers should take appropriate cautions to minimize risks. I could go out tonight and get robbed or worse. You never know.

When I write my Newbie's Guide I'll make sure to highlight some tips I have regarding safety, as well as point out the real dangers that do exist.

[Paulie97]

There's no debate about Colombia being a 3rd world country, if that term still has any meaning since it is a Cold War reliq. Now the proper term is developing country.

You are the one misleading people about the danger level of the main strip of Santa Fe. I see people of all walks of life there, including regular normal people, young & old, mothers with children, even at night. If it's so dangerous, what are they doing there?

I said some people risk their lives for adventure, in a general sense, not just for pussy. Some of us are adrenaline junkies, seek danger for excitement sake. We are not all cowered into staying in the basement, even in the face of real legitimate danger.

During the covid pandemic, for instance, I still kept traveling and partying. If it cost my life and valuables so be it. Because, guess what: being alive is dangerous!

Like any major metropolian city, Bogota will have its fare share of crime. If people post here every mugging and murder, we would never run out of that material. This isn't the homicide / mugging blog. There should be a seperate thread for crime security in Bogota.Don't bother with the guy bro. He's never been to Colombia. We challenged him to meet one of us and it never happened. Then we told him he could post pics of his passport entry stamp to Colombia, never happened. Then in a last ditch desperate effort he posted ten year old Colombia travel pics from a gringa's blog claiming they were his own. Lolol he a twerp in a basement, US most likely but maybe Euro. He knows nothing more about these destinations than what he reads here in ISG. Cheers.

[Osteoknot]

I've done some pretty risky shit for sex. Walking into dead end brothels in Vietnam, check, getting mugged in Latin America, check; bonking by mortar fire, check. I haven't yet fucked a chica in a polar bear enclosure but all good things in time.Ho Chi Minh City, aka Saigon.

As I believe you are inferring, we don't have to condone or judge each other's behaviors about what we will and won't do, what lines we will cross to monger, particularly because look where we are, a mongering board. With that said, I think what you wrote reflects a true mongering spirit.

[Osteoknot]

What the hell is going on with the all the in-fighting in this thread? Who cares how people spend their time and efforts as long as we're having fun. Some people want short flings, others want something more. This would be my first time taking a solo trip of this kind, so I have a couple prospects for both categories. Maybe some will work out, some won't, but that's part of the game and I'll learn for next time.I feel your point is valid.

[Elvis 2008]

You are the one misleading people about the danger level of the main strip of Santa Fe. I see people of all walks of life there, including regular normal people, young & old, mothers with children, even at night. If it's so dangerous, what are they doing there?Frogg, MDS has never been to Bogota or Santa Fe. Just put him on ignore. He just wants attention.

[LatinaLover#1]

No disrespect or offense intended, as I know without a doubt that these things happen. But on Election Day? Police were swarming EVERYWHERE and I mean on every square block, especially close to the voting booths. This election has serious implications and I read a lot about how security would be greater than usual. And I saw it. I don't know where specifically your novia's brother was walking and one can, of course, be robbed anywhere.

That being said, I have to ask. Did your novia ask you for money after this event? Again, no disrespect intended. With 40% of the population living below the poverty line people are very desperate and crime has certainly increased. Just the other day a girl on SA told me she was robbed and straight up asked me to buy her an iPhone 12. I nearly pissed myself laughing before blocking her.

In any case, the takeaway for any monger is to always be on your guard because if your novia's brother was indeed robbed, it is just further evidence that it can happen to anyone.Your spending way too much time with prepagos, which would explain your knee jerk reaction to a post only meant to alert fellow members from getting into a bad situation. My girl is one of the top students in the National University, a 4. 6 GPA STEM major. If your familiar with that school you will know what it means. She has a 10 year visa and will do her post graduate work this summer here in the USA. She doesn't smoke, drink or wear makeup for that matter, a natural beauty. For you to throw shade on a woman or her family, who you don't even know is shameful. If she needed money all she has to do is ask me, no need to resort to a playhouse 90. Jaja. I am a bit insulted that you would assume that of my girl or her family. Instead of trying to poke holes in a post only meant to help fellow member stay safe, try filing the info to stay safe in the future.

You know what, I need my head.

Examend for even posting on this board, I have better things to do with my time.

[Fudi Maar]

I left Bogota yesterday and used an uber from Santa Fe to the airport. When we got close to the airport, the driver (Venezuelan chap) explained that he may have to take a different route than expected because there are often police waiting on the way, to stop uber drivers and shake them down for big payments.

He seemed genuinely concerned, and at one point even pointed out a few policemen standing around a stopped car, talking to the driver.

I'm not sure what the consequences would be for the passenger (very little I would imagine), but if the police were to stop an uber and the passenger, then I can see them purposely taking their time talking to the driver with the possibility that the passenger would be in danger of missing their flight.

And in addition, when we got to the airport, the driver told me that he will just stop the car in the middle of the road, and that I should just get my suitcase and get out very quickly. Rapido! Rapido!

Maybe he was being a bit paranoid, but I can see how he didn't want any trouble with the police or the taxi mafia.

Next time, I'll just take a yellow cab.

[Fudi Maar]

I like to work out. Nothing serious, but just to keep fit. One of the problems of travelling is the availability of good gyms.

I found one in Chapinero which is ideal for us short-timers. It's called Fitness 24/7 and it's on Calle 66,13-45. It's open 24 hours. It's quite small, but even at 5 pm weekdays, I didn't have a problem getting onto the machines. It's possible to be a member for 1 month at a cost of 100 K, and the best part is that you can pay cash, so no need to worry about being charged on your credit card for more months than necessary. They have a shower and lockers.

The nearest transmilenio is "Flores" and bus number 8 goes there from either direction, north or south.

Enjoy!

[Mr Enternational]

And in addition, when we got to the airport, the driver told me that he will just stop the car in the middle of the road, and that I should just get my suitcase and get out very quickly. Rapido! Rapido!

Maybe he was being a bit paranoid, but I can see how he didn't want any trouble with the police or the taxi mafia.Yeah your guy was paranoid. Many of those drivers want you to sit up front so you just look like a friend. I have reported before a chick that I was messing with drives Uber. If they are caught then the car gets impounded and they have to pay a big fine. By the way, you should try the Indriver app. It is cheaper than Uber.

[JustTK]

Yeah your guy was paranoid. Many of those drivers want you to sit up front so you just look like a friend. If they are caught then the car gets impounded and they have to pay a big fine..Yes, they need to just engage their brains a little and think of a reasonable explanation. Oh this is the boyfriend of my sister. He has just arrived. He can't speak Spanish and I can't speak English. So he sits in the back. Problem solved.

[JackTaggart]

Yeah your guy was paranoid. Many of those drivers want you to sit up front so you just look like a friend. I have reported before a chick that I was messing with drives Uber. If they are caught then the car gets impounded and they have to pay a big fine. By the way, you should try the Indriver app. It is cheaper than Uber.I took a private driver to the airport tonight. Its a small business that we use sometimes and they will also keep your bags safe if you want to get dinner. One guy even came into one of the nicer clubs the first time to watch us. Talk about service! I usually walk or uber, but for late night service I like the guaranteed ride.

But anyways, I sat up front and he had me pay before we got to the airport. He also took his phone off the dashboard mount a couple km before. We parked and he brought me to the door. Not sure if that last part was necessary for his cover or not, but its appreciated.

[Voodoo Jones]

Many of those drivers want you to sit up front so you just look like a friend.Yes, as along as you sit in the front, it shouldn't be an issue. When I arrive in Bogota, I sat in the back seat at first and after one of the drivers asked me to sit in the front, I continued to do so the rest of the trip.

Now the funny thing is my first night, I was sitting in the back and we got pulled over by police who had another driver stopped already. They checked his ID and let him go without any issues even though it was clear I was a passenger.

[Huacho]

As I believe you are inferringImplying, not inferring, mister oh so educated.

[Villainy]

Frogg, MDS has never been to Bogota or Santa Fe. Just put him on ignore. He just wants attention.I think this might be the first time you've said something that is indisputable.

[Paulie97]

I think this might be the first time you've said something that is indisputable.The Marquis de Twat is "studying Colombia. " We all need to give him credit for that. Wink.

[MarquisdeSade1]

The Marquis de Twat is "studying Colombia. " We all need to give him credit for that. Wink.3 turds in agreement, jajajajaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

A self professed door to door grifter / ex con that targets military senior citizens.

A self professed morbidly obese cuck that tells me hes our very own whoor board "medical doctor", that happens to fall in "love" with any puta that would dare kiss him.

[Elvis 2008]

A self professed morbidly obese cuck that tells me hes our very own whoor board "medical doctor", that happens to fall in "love" with any puta that would dare kiss him.It has become apparent to me that the Democratic douchery is much more deeper than I thought. Villainy is so worthless that he had nothing interesting to say about Colombia even though he is living there, and he is so bored that he had to respond to a post I made two weeks ago. Paulie is such the arrogant douche that he looks to agree with anyone who says anything negative about me. At this point I realize the Democratic douches have lied to themselves so much they need to be isolated, and I am only going to fight them for my own amusement. I am done trying to convince them of anything.

But I did wonder why Villainy tried to come at me with this stupid notion that cabs in Colombia do not rip people off and now I get that he was trying to put me in the same place as you, a total fraud, about having been to Colombia.

I have mutual friends who have I met from this forum who know Mr. E and the Tall Man but you do not. When you asked me for a list of women via PM, I did not give it to you because I did not trust you and I am not giving a POS like you info on my ex-harem. It is funny though how I did not ask that of you. Gee, I wonder why. Oh that is right because I do not think you have any women or if you do, they are way, way below my standards.

Unbeknownst to you, when I had my foursome in Mexico with two women from Mexico and one from Colombia in Cancun, one member here knows one of the women. In fact, he has been with her. That girl told him about all about it and what a blast they had and how after I left, they were going after other men. I think he expected me to be upset about it, but I told these women that I probably would not see them any more. I have been in contact with all these women and could go right back to that life if I wanted.

So I had three skilled, hard bodied, nice women on a trip and was having a 4 some every night, and I preferred the sex with my one girl who is a 10 in and out of bed over them. That was my choice. Your choice is what porn you want to whack off to.

And yeah, I am overweight worse now than ever, and I have a 10 totally in love with me and three women disappointed that I left them. And you? Nada. You are thin and women still hate you. He he.

It was this passage that made me want to puke.


We as men are biologically programmed to reproduce as much as possible to propagate the species.

There's only 1 way I know how to do that personally.

And yes that makes condoms an affront to nature as is abortion.No woman is ever going to love a man with an attitude like that, and this attitude drives women right into the arms of Democrats. You are a bad man, a bad Republican, and a fucking loser, and everyone here knows it.

[Villainy]

It has become apparent to me that the Democratic douchery is much more deeper than I thought. Villainy is so worthless that he had nothing interesting to say about Colombia even though he is living there, and he is so bored that he had to respond to a post I made two weeks ago. Paulie is such the arrogant douche that he looks to agree with anyone who says anything negative about me. At this point I realize the Democratic douches have lied to themselves so much they need to be isolated, and I am only going to fight them for my own amusement. I am done trying to convince them of anything.

But I did wonder why Villainy tried to come at me with this stupid notion that cabs in Colombia do not rip people off and now I get that he was trying to put me in the same place as you, a total fraud, about having been to Colombia..Everyone is a douche (according to you, Elvis) if they point out some of your stupidity or fallacious statements. I am not the only one that has commented that "Douche" is your favorite word.

As to the cab thing. It's actually pretty simple. You posted in the Medellin thread that you couldn't count the number of times a cab driver tried to rip you off. I had to correct the record. In the 2 1/2 years I've lived in Medellin (nor in the 5 times I visited over the years), I have had NO experiences of a cab driver trying to rip me off. Perhaps I speak Spanish well enough that cabbies assume I've been here enough times to know what the fare should be. Maybe I just don't look like a foolish foreigner that doesn't know any better.

Of course, as is your want, you immediately answered back that this happened to you too many times to count in Cartagena. Of course, you could have mentioned that it happened in Cartagena not in Medellin. Or you could have posted your "expert opinion" in the Cartagena thread. Now you're throwing your tantrum in the Bogota Stupid Shit thread.

To wrap up, I don't know if you're a fraud or not. I'm pretty happy to say I have never met you. But I will point out that not everyone who disagrees with you is a Democratic douche. Some of us don't spew out BS about everything in the world.

[Huacho]

In the 2 1/2 years I've lived in Medellin (nor in the 5 times I visited over the years), I have had NO experiences of a cab driver trying to rip me off.I had an MDE cabbie switch bills on me, telling me the 10 k I gave him was fake, when I had just gotten it from a cajero and plus the one he switched back was ripped and the one I gave him was not. I think the fare was about 6 k so I told him 'ya tienes el tuyo why más' and went in my building. He called the fucking police. I had a couple of other problems as well. So Elvis is a fat, bloated enema bag but I agree that MDE cabbies are a bunch of hijos de putas.

[World Jockey]

I left Bogota yesterday and used an uber from Santa Fe to the airport. When we got close to the airport, the driver (Venezuelan chap) explained that he may have to take a different route than expected because there are often police waiting on the way, to stop uber drivers and shake them down for big payments.

He seemed genuinely concerned, and at one point even pointed out a few policemen standing around a stopped car, talking to the driver.

I'm not sure what the consequences would be for the passenger (very little I would imagine), but if the police were to stop an uber and the passenger, then I can see them purposely taking their time talking to the driver with the possibility that the passenger would be in danger of missing their flight.

And in addition, when we got to the airport, the driver told me that he will just stop the car in the middle of the road, and that I should just get my suitcase and get out very quickly. Rapido! Rapido!

Maybe he was being a bit paranoid, but I can see how he didn't want any trouble with the police or the taxi mafia.

Next time, I'll just take a yellow cab.I have had this happen leaving the BOG airport. The uber picked us up in the parking lot. Of course he has once of us sit up front to look like we were friends. About five minutes into the ride we were pulled over. The driver was like quick "My name is XXX what's your names?" It didn't work. The cops just explained to us that uber was illegal and called us a yellow cab. I don't know what happened to the driver but it seemed like he was getting more than just a citation.

This also happened to be in Peru. I think this guy was operating an illegal taxi. This time he got pulled over and told us to wait on a corner. We did and watched the cops ticket him. After they left he came and picked us back up. My buddy felt bad for the old man and gave him $50 usd.

[MarquisdeSade1]

It has become apparent to me that the Democratic douchery is much more deeper than I thought. Villainy is so worthless that he had nothing interesting to say about Colombia even though he is living there, and he is so bored that he had to respond to a post I made two weeks ago. Paulie is such the arrogant douche that he looks to agree with anyone who says anything negative about me. At this point I realize the Democratic douches have lied to themselves so much they need to be isolated, and I am only going to fight them for my own amusement. I am done trying to convince them of anything.

But I did wonder why Villainy tried to come at me with this stupid notion that cabs in Colombia do not rip people off and now I get that he was trying to put me in the same place as you, a total fraud, about having been to Colombia.

I have mutual friends who have I met from this forum who know Mr. E and the Tall Man but you do not. When you asked me for a list of women via PM, I did not give it to you because I did not trust you and I am not giving a POS like you info on my ex-harem. It is funny though how I did not ask that of you. Gee, I wonder why. Oh that is right because I do not think you have any women or if you do, they are way, way below my standards.

Unbeknownst to you, when I had my foursome in Mexico with two women from Mexico and one from Colombia in Cancun, one member here knows one of the women. In fact, he has been with her. That girl told him about all about it and what a blast they had and how after I left, they were going after other men. I think he expected me to be upset about it, but I told these women that I probably would not see them any more. I have been in contact with all these women and could go right back to that life if I wanted.OMG I think I'm going to cry LOL.

A bad man? That's just hitting below the belt LMAO.

A bad Republican? LOL I'm not a Republican dum dum.

I'm a loser? LOL stop projecting there "Fat Bastard" ala Austin Powers with a 10 LOL I'm sure you missed a decimal point there "1.0."

I don't fall in love with 3rd world putas or any putas for that matter, and I don't go scraping the bottom of the barrel in Cali for 10's LOL.

Only losers go on whoor boards saying they are a physician, either you are and I'm really really glad you're not mine, spending 15 hrs a day on ISG arguing with mongers LMAO.

Or you're just another pathetic liar on ISG, in either event if you want to see the biggest loser on ISG look in the mirror.

Just don't cry ok.

[Elvis 2008]

Everyone is a douche (according to you, Elvis) if they point out some of your stupidity or fallacious statements.Sorry, V, I have already defined what a douche is. It is not a person who votes Democrat but is so arrogant that he thinks that is the only way to think about things and that anyone voting or even thinking about voting Republican is evil.


As to the cab thing. It's actually pretty simple. You posted in the Medellin thread that you couldn't count the number of times a cab driver tried to rip you off. I had to correct the record. In the 2 1/2 years I've lived in Medellin (nor in the 5 times I visited over the years), I have had NO experiences of a cab driver trying to rip me off. Perhaps I speak Spanish well enough that cabbies assume I've been here enough times to know what the fare should be. Maybe I just don't look like a foolish foreigner that doesn't know any better.And your purpose in posting this is what? That you are better than everyone else (or me) because you do not get ripped off? Then there is the lecturing about cities and forums and about the Indriver app. You lived two and a half years in Medellin and THIS is what you come up with as helping people?

The point of my posting about cabs was that I was with a hot chick and the cabbie tried to rip me off so as to not look badly in front of her. The irony is that she did not let them do that. This is something a number of guys here says that cabbies have done to them as well.


I had to correct the record. In the 2 1/2 years I've lived in Medellin (nor in the 5 times I visited over the years), I have had NO experiences of a cab driver trying to rip me off. Perhaps I speak Spanish well enough that cabbies assume I've been here enough times to know what the fare should be. Maybe I just don't look like a foolish foreigner that doesn't know any better.And yeah, let us make sure we get the record straight. Sure, maybe cabbies have not ripped you off because you speak Spanish and do not appear to look like a foolish foreigner, but there is another huge reason you missed that is way more likely. Maybe you did not get ripped off in the last 2 and a half years, because you have not had a hot chick in a cab with you.

Maybe this is why you do not give out any personal information because when you do it comes around and bites you in the ass. The last time you were this smart you were lunching with someone with Covid in the middle of a pandemic.

And I have admitted to being personally stupid with Covid. I banged a chick who lost her sense of taste and smell and went to a club in Bogota maskless during the pandemic, but you douches never admit to being stupid about anything. That is why it is pointless to argue with you.


But you failed to mention people such as yourself that don't know the difference between to, too and two. If you are so smart (obviously not) how is it that you make mistakes that most 3rd graders know enough to avoid? Perhaps we should all remember that your opinions come from a person woefully lacking in basic language skills.And since we are on the topic of being a Democratic douche, show me when you have been this much of a condescending asshole about something so trivial with a Democrat.

Now I just have to see which douche comes to rescue you after you have been so badly burned again.

[Paulie97]

As to the cab thing. It's actually pretty simple. You posted in the Medellin thread that you couldn't count the number of times a cab driver tried to rip you off. I had to correct the record. In the 2 1/2 years I've lived in Medellin (nor in the 5 times I visited over the years), I have had NO experiences of a cab driver trying to rip me off. Perhaps I speak Spanish well enough that cabbies assume I've been here enough times to know what the fare should be. Maybe I just don't look like a foolish foreigner that doesn't know any better.I'm sure he also can't count the number of times that he failed to tell the taxi driver to cut on the meter. That's the typical ripoff method. Tell them to cut it on. If they refuse or pretend like they don't understand, point to the curb and ask to be let out. Don't underestimate the willingness of some Colombians to use the language barrier to their advantage, and pretend not to understand when they do perfectly well. But that's assuming Elvira has spent any time in Colombia besides a few weekend warrior excursions. I still haven't come across anyone that has met him.

It was though interesting watching him come against his right wingnut basement buttboy the Marquis de Twat. You compliment him for that and are met with his favorite 1980's insult "douche"? Whatever. That went out with double knit leisure suits, white belts, and disco but whatever. Lolol.

[Elvis 2008]

I'm sure he also can't count the number of times that he failed to tell the taxi driver to cut on the meter. That's the typical ripoff method. Tell them to cut it on. If they refuse or pretend like they don't understand, point to the curb and ask to be let out. Don't underestimate the willingness of some Colombians to use the language barrier to their advantage, and pretend not to understand when they do perfectly well. But that's assuming Elvira has spent any time in Colombia besides a few weekend warrior excursions.And yet another douche telling me to look at the meter when the cab did not have one. God, you are stupid. You going to admit how dumb you were? Of course not. You are a douche. By definition, you never admit you are wrong about anything.

I predicted another Democratic douche would "ride to the rescue" and sure enough here you are making an ass of yourself over something no one gives a shit about.


I still haven't come across anyone that has met him.Thank God, and I hope you never do. I do not ride in the sewers like you do.

[Villainy]

Sorry, V, I have already defined what a douche is. It is not a person who votes Democrat but is so arrogant that he thinks that is the only way to think about things and that anyone voting or even thinking about voting Republican is evil.Thanks for your distinction without difference. If someone thinks voting Republican is evil. Gee to what party do you think they belong?


And your purpose in posting this is what? That you are better than everyone else (or me) because you do not get ripped off? Then there is the lecturing about cities and forums and about the Indriver app. You lived two and a half years in Medellin and THIS is what you come up with as helping people?I try to help people when I can and when I have the time. I see you have over 1,700 posts. Apparently I have a better and more fulfilling life in retirement than you do. I don't have enough time to post multiple posts daily. BTW most of your posts don't help anyone mostly you are lecturing about some subject on which you have no knowledge. Mostly just rehashing the latest dreck you read on one of your blogs.


The point of my posting about cabs was that I was with a hot chick and the cabbie tried to rip me off so as to not look badly in front of her. The irony is that she did not let them do that. This is something a number of guys here says that cabbies have done to them as well.

And yeah, let us make sure we get the record straight. Sure, maybe cabbies have not ripped you off because you speak Spanish and do not appear to look like a foolish foreigner, but there is another huge reason you missed that is way more likely. Maybe you did not get ripped off in the last 2 and a half years, because you have not had a hot chick in a cab with you.Sorry Elvy. You're wrong on that score as well. I frequently go out to lunch or dinner with one of my female companions (some are friends and some are friends with derechos). Even then I can't remember a single instance where a cab driver tried to take us to the restaurant by way of Barranquilla.


Maybe this is why you do not give out any personal information because when you do it comes around and bites you in the ass. The last time you were this smart you were lunching with someone with Covid in the middle of a pandemic......I had lunch with JjBee and it was during the time of the pandemic. So? Are you jealous?


Now I just have to see which douche comes to rescue you after you have been so badly burned again.I don't need a lot of help humiliating you and your narcissistic writings. By the way I see in the Medellin forum you were lecturing Mr Enternational on what type of relationships he should have. How pompous could you possibly be? I also saw he didn't think very much of your "advice". Hahahaha.

[Master Monger]

Bro,

With the greatest of respect, you seem to have decided that Bogota is truly awful for mongering and are seeing everything through that filter of rejection.

BBBJ and CIM? I got that on my very first punt at Tantra Spa. For 80 K, and the girl had a lovely attitude too.

Have a read of some of the reports I've written recently regarding numerous casas. Admittedly, you won't find any 8's or 9's there, but I've had largely wonderful experiences for very low costs.

And I've had great "un ratos" for 30 K.

And you mentioning that you payed 1.0 million and are staying at the JW Marriott may be a humble brag, but money doesn't always buy better experiences. And frankly, paying a girl for 5 hours before you've tried her a short time to test her attitude / performance is a recipe for disappointment. You could have literally banged 10 girls in numerous casas for 300 K and then on another day repeat for longer times with your favourites or get their WhatsApp's and they would have come to your hotel, and given you GFE for 100 K. For 1.0 million, you could have banged to the point where your dick would have begged you for some rest.Bogota is OK compared to the US but compared to Asia it is pretty much a joke. If you don't know this you need to check out more places in Asia!

Colombian girls are delusional in my opinion. Had some ok Venezuelans but nothing I would post about.

[Master Monger]

What is up with this going to a place expecting to fuck chicks that look like chicks in another place? All that says is that people did not do basic homework.
Because you can get on a local hooker site like mileroticos for 2 seconds or even google people location and see images of how the local population looks. Who has expectations of going to Hawaii to see Africans?

Glad I don't have a problem going somewhere and not being able to pick from what is available to fuck, instead of being disappointed that they don't look like chicks somewhere else. This is too easy to avoid in the internet era.I had lots of hot girls in Colombia in 2005 and now that is just not possible, I don't know why and I really don't care.

I have standards and have refused free offers of sex here, and most of the women you showed me I would pass on as well. Vietnam is open completely now and you can even get tested after you land so that is a good sign. You can keep your condom happy ho's in Latin America!

Just for kicks you all should watch the video "Fauci's First Fraud HIV = AIDS". AIDS is only caused by drugs like amyl nitrate and other harmful ones. The two French guys who won the Nobel Prize for identifying HIV have said it as a virus is benign.

After about 5,000 women bareback it is something I already knew.

Asia here I come!

MM out!

[Fudi Maar]

Bogota is OK compared to the US but compared to Asia it is pretty much a joke. If you don't know this you need to check out more places in Asia!

Colombian girls are delusional in my opinion. Had some ok Venezuelans but nothing I would post about.I guess the title says it really. I, for one, would never try to convince someone that "this place is better than that place". To each his own. If someone likes skinny, petite girls, then Asia is great; if they like wide-hipped, big-assed Latinas, then Colombia fits the bill. I like the latter, so you won't find me going onto the Thailand forum and saying that Thai girls are delusional or that the country is a joke. It just wouldn't be logical.

And yep, I have travelled around in Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Hong Kong, S. Korea, Philippines and Indonesia, so I am able to compare and contrast accordingly.

[JustTK]

To each his own. f they like wide-hipped, big-assed Latinas, then Colombia fits the bill. I like the latter, so you won't find me going onto the Thailand forum and saying that Thai girls are delusional or that the country is a joke. Haha.

And it wouldn't be logical to criticize someone for who doesn't like latinas for being big hipped when he never said anything of the sort.

[Mr Enternational]

But I decided to post a TR because I want to keep even the dumbest mongers safe from harm. My first 5 nights in Colombia, I was victim of attempted robbery 3 times. Twice in Cartagena (read my TR there) and once here in Bogota.Attempted robbery 3 times in 1 trip? Maybe it is you. I have never had anyone attempt to rob me and I am an obvious foreigner as well. I am on the way to the airport in Barranquilla headed back to Bogota. I will be staying a few blocks from Santa Fe. If you could, take a trip over there with me tonight. I would like you to point out what these hardened violent criminals look like and show me how it is so easy for you to find trouble. I need some exciting stories like this to tell, because all of my times there have been pretty routine without any drama.

[Mr Enternational]

Ecause I got sick of arguing with posters who have shit for brains who believe impossible shit like Uber is illegal in Colombia (read more on Stupid Shit Medellin subforum)Sorry pimp. But I posted about this last year. Here is a copy. Better to get to know the ins and outs of places before you go making assumptions based on where you come from.


I did not know Uber was still illegal in Colombia. I am with a non-pro in Bogota now. She owns a salon, sells food, and drives Uber and Didi. She said it is still illegal. The police took her car two times. The first time they kept it 5 days and she had to pay 560,000. The second time they kept it 20 days and she had to pay 1 million. We are waiting at a traffic light and a crazy mf just walked around the car hitting all the tires with a stick.

[ClamSlammer]

Sorry pimp. But I posted about this last year. Here is a copy. Better to get to know the ins and outs of places before you go making assumptions based on where you come from.So, you actually believe her when she said Uber is operating illegally, knowingly defying a court order to cease operations? LOL! LOL! LOL!

Let me say this again: Uber has never, ever, picked up one single passenger, anywhere in the world, while under a court order to cease operations. Never! Not one vehicle has ever been impounded for the sole reason of being a Uber. NEVER! You got be a sucker with zero understanding of the legal / business world to even consider that a remote possibility. Some dumbass Uber driver tells you that the ride you are about to be taken on is illegal? Like they're some underground renegade that's saving the city by offering low-priced rides defying the unjust police and government? Like they're some sort of James Bond hero? And you actually believed them? I can't stop laughing!

For the purposes of this argument, when I refer to Uber operating "illegally" I mean that they are continuing to pick up passengers despite the existence of a valid court order to cease operations.

Can you explain how Uber can continue operating under these circumstances after a court of law suspends / revokes Uber's business license:

1. Any government can shut down access to Uber with a flip of a switch. If Uber is figuratively telling the government "fuck you" and continues to pick up passengers illegally, why doesn't the government shut off Internet access to Uber?

2. How does Uber's corporate offices not get raided, computers, servers, records, files, etc seized? Does Uber have a well armed, nuclear-capable militia army standing guard over its offices that is feared by the Colombia's own military?

3. How does Uber's driver support offices not get raided?

4. How are Uber executives not issued arrest warrants and imprisoned for defying court orders?

5. How does Uber continue to process credit card payments? If Uber is illegal, then of course all Colombian banks would be issued notices to cease transactions with Uber and freeze its assets.

6. How does Uber continue to pay / collect from their drivers when no bank will do business with them and all their assets are frozen?

7. How does Uber continue to employ Colombian locals for their support staff when it is deemed as operating illegally? How is payroll processed with no bank account?

8. Uber employs a team of legal experts who's only job is to maintain compliance with government policies, correct? Then why have a legal team when you don't give a fuck anyway and continue to operate despite a court order not to do so?

Uber is not some street corner operation selling illegally imported cigarettes that can continue to operate enough though a court ordered it to shut down. Just pack up real quick when the cops are spotted a couple blocks away. Uber is a multi billion dollar corporation. No way in hell they can operate underground. You think the Colombian government won't notice Uber picking up 20 million passenger a month? Uber can just shut off the lights when they see the cops coming down the road? LOL! Seriously, anyone that considers even for one second that it's possible Uber is operating illegally underground is a sucker with no understanding of the business / legal world. Renegade Uber drivers going rogue, dodging impounders while saving the city from high priced taxi's LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL!

[Bango Cheito]

Uber's offices HAVE been raided in the past by authorities. They now have three small offices around town, and only qualified drivers and staff know where they are.

Uber, despite being illegal, also pays all payroll taxes and VAT to the government. This may sound crazy, but it works in this environment, because the tax authorities leave them alone, since they are getting their cut. This has the net effect of the government's left hand not knowing what it's right hand are doing.

You're looking at things through a gringo lens, but this system isn't run the same. You're not in Kansas anymore.

[Mr Enternational]

You're looking at things through a gringo lens, but this system isn't run the same. You're not in Kansas anymore.Exactly what the problem is. He thinks the way things work in the USA apply everywhere. Refuses to accept what other KNOW in lieu of what he THINKS. Learn about how business works in other countries before you go spouting off what you think you know. I have a whole masters degree in this particular field, but this guy that has been somewhere 1 or 2 times for a few days swears he knows how things work and how things can not work.

I guess to him it sounds as ridiculous as the biggest known drug kingpin and killer running for public office. Impossible for that to happen.

[LatinaLover#1]

While even today Uber is my go to but Uber has their own problems, and the recent taxi increase has made them more expensive for the local citizens of Bogota. Indriver is quickly becoming the go to ride share. It's more of a bid and ask system and you pay cash, no cards. You would be surprised by how many of these girls don't have a credit card or even a bank account.

[LatinaLover#1]

Scopolamine, is always a danger and has been for years but now. They are posing a cleaners on the Transmillanio and busses. They act like they are cleaning but instead of spraying disinfectant they spray Scopolamine at you instead of cleaner on the seats and windows. Just be aware.

[JjBee62]

Scopolamine, is always a danger and has been for years but now. They are posing a cleaners on the Transmillanio and busses. They act like they are cleaning but instead of spraying disinfectant they spray Scopolamine at you instead of cleaner on the seats and windows. Just be aware.Do you have a reliable source for this, or are you just going off of the story reported last month of the 22 year old Colombian who got beaten and robbed and says he doesn't remember anything? Because there are a whole bunch of problems with that story.

Scopolamine comes as either a transdermal patch, or as a pill, not as an aerosol. While you could grind pills into a fine powder and dissolve the powder in water, I'm assuming that the effectiveness of the drug would degrade over time. Ask a chemist.

Spraying someone in the face would probably work, but you would need to spray them quite a bit. It's not magic. Enough of the drug has to get into the bloodstream to make a person unconscious, and I think after getting sprayed in the face once, most people would do something to prevent the next 10-15 sprays.

The effects of Scopolamine are somewhat similar to being blackout drunk. You reach a point where your body is still functioning, but your brain is no longer aware. From that point on you have no memory of events. While there might be some initial confusion about what happened between first ingesting the drug and total blackout, memory of the period before are not altered. The victim would certainly recall someone spraying them in the face a bunch of times.

Then there's the Transmilenio. There are cameras everywhere. I think by now footage of the attack would have been found. There are almost always other passengers. I've also never seen anyone cleaning a bus while in service. What would be the point?

Also consider the Transmilenio passengers. During the morning and evening rush there are a fair number of middle class passengers, but late at night, most of the passengers aren't worth robbing.

Why take the victim away from the Transmilenio and beat the crap out of him? Assuming you've managed to drug him, and get enough in his system to knock him out in under 5 minutes (between Calle 80 and 68), which would be a lethal dose, empty his pockets and walk away. Dragging him through a station with more cameras and possibly police just increases your risk. Why beat him up? If you've figured out how to spray someone in the face 15 times without them noticing, with a lethal dose which leaves no aftereffects, you've got to be smart enough not to beat up your victims. There's no profit in it.

In the only mention I've found of Scopolamine and the Transmilenio, I have an alternative possibility. Young guy on the way home decides to buy some weed. Pulls 20 k from the ATM and approaches some likely looking people. They either beat him up and rob him, or rob him and beat him up when they find he's only got 20 k. He can't tell daddy he got beat and robbed buying weed, so he must have been drugged on the Transmilenio.

As for people posing as cleaners and spraying people in the face, I see no way that could be made to work and on the Transmilenio there's no profit in it. That's why the thieves try to target people on Tinder, they can be certain the victim has cash.

[LatinaLover#1]

Do you have a reliable source for this, or are you just going off of the story reported last month of the 22 year old Colombian who got beaten and robbed and says he doesn't remember anything? Because there are a whole bunch of problems with that story.

Scopolamine comes as either a transdermal patch, or as a pill, not as an aerosol. While you could grind pills into a fine powder and dissolve the powder in water, I'm assuming that the effectiveness of the drug would degrade over time. Ask a chemist.

Spraying someone in the face would probably work, but you would need to spray them quite a bit. It's not magic. Enough of the drug has to get into the bloodstream to make a person unconscious, and I think after getting sprayed in the face once, most people would do something to prevent the next 10-15 sprays.

The effects of Scopolamine are somewhat similar to being blackout drunk. You reach a point where your body is still functioning, but your brain is no longer aware. From that point on you have no memory of events. While there might be some initial confusion about what happened between first ingesting the drug and total blackout, memory of the period before are not altered. The victim would certainly recall someone spraying them in the face a bunch of times.

Then there's the Transmilenio. There are cameras everywhere. I think by now footage of the attack would have been found. There are almost always other passengers. I've also never seen anyone cleaning a bus while in service. What would be the point?

Also consider the Transmilenio passengers. During the morning and evening rush there are a fair number of middle class passengers, but late at night, most of the passengers aren't worth robbing.

Why take the victim away from the Transmilenio and beat the crap out of him? Assuming you've managed to drug him, and get enough in his system to knock him out in under 5 minutes (between Calle 80 and 68), which would be a lethal dose, empty his pockets and walk away. Dragging him through a station with more cameras and possibly police just increases your risk. Why beat him up? If you've figured out how to spray someone in the face 15 times without them noticing, with a lethal dose which leaves no aftereffects, you've got to be smart enough not to beat up your victims. There's no profit in it.

In the only mention I've found of Scopolamine and the Transmilenio, I have an alternative possibility. Young guy on the way home decides to buy some weed. Pulls 20 k from the ATM and approaches some likely looking people. They either beat him up and rob him, or rob him and beat him up when they find he's only got 20 k. He can't tell daddy he got beat and robbed buying weed, so he must have been drugged on the Transmilenio.

As for people posing as cleaners and spraying people in the face, I see no way that could be made to work and on the Transmilenio there's no profit in it. That's why the thieves try to target people on Tinder, they can be certain the victim has cash.But my novia and her family travel the tramsmilenio everyday for hours at a time and a friend of her mom told her to be careful because it happened to someone in her car. Obviously if YOU didn't hear of it, then it could not happen. This may come as a surprise to you genius but the handful of times you have traveled mass transit in Bogota, on your handful of trips to Colombia and what you found on google or social media does not make you more informed than the the working class in Bogota who EXPERIENCE LT everyday. It's guys like you, who don't have a life that wants to start flame wars. Accept the info or don't and go on, this may come to you as a surprise but your not that important. P.S.: your back on ignore.

[LatinaLover#1]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToQ8PWYnu04

In a drink, a swipe of your nose or inhale it it's all bad.

[JjBee62]

But my novia and her family travel the tramsmilenio everyday for hours at a time and a friend of her mom told her to be careful because it happened to someone in her car. Obviously if YOU didn't hear of it, then it could not happen. This may come as a surprise to you genius but the handful of times you have traveled mass transit in Bogota, on your handful of trips to Colombia and what you found on google or social media does not make you more informed than the the working class in Bogota who EXPERIENCE LT everyday. It's guys like you, who don't have a life that wants to start flame wars. Accept the info or don't and go on, this may come to you as a surprise but your not that important. P.S.: your back on ignore.I'm sorry you're offended because I asked a question. It was a legitimate question. Is there a reliable source for this? You could have said "no. A friend of the mom of a girlfriend had it happen to someone in her car," which is not a reliable source. If you don't believe me, try it with the police. Tell them your girlfriend's mom has a friend who claims she witnessed a crime.

Please explain the crime. Scopolamine is, what it is. Normal dosages, in pill form, take about 20 minutes to take effect. Placing Scopolamine in alcohol is effective, because the target is already impaired and it gives the criminals time to wait for full effect, and because they can control the dosage.

When I'm in Bogota I use the Transmilenio, almost every time. I've never seen anything, although there's probably pickpockets. If your girlfriend's mother's friend saw this happen, what, in her words happened? Why didn't she and the other passengers say or do something? How did they know Scopolamine was used?

I'm not trying to start a flame war. I'm asking questions. Knowing what I know, it makes no sense. I can see no way to make it work with someone posing as a cleaner on a bus. I can see of no way to make it work, without risking an insignificant dose, or through force, administering a lethal dose.

If it offends you that I'm asking questions, the problem is not with me. I've used no insults nor said anything impugning you. I want to know whether this is another urban legend, or a valid issue. Why get angry at the questions? Why not answer the questions?

You've created more questions, but I'll let them slide. I'll just add a bit to your rather incredible warning:

If you ride the Transmilenio, and not many of you do, if someone is pretending to clean the bus, stay away. Bus cleaning and disinfecting isn't done on the routes. It's done when the bus is out of service.

If you let someone pretending to clean the bus approach you and they spray you in the face. Don't open your mouth and let them spray you several more times. Stand up and make some noise. Get people's attention. Move towards the front of the bus yelling "ladron" or "ladrones" if there are more than one.

I will contest one thing, that I don't know more than the people who ride the Transmilenio everyday. For starters, your girlfriend and her entire family spend hours on the Transmilenio everyday and they didn't know, until someone told them, that someone got drugged with Scopolamine. Apparently, the 1. 2 million who use the Transmilenio everyday didn't know that either. If, as you seem to suggest this is a significant problem, wouldn't someone have reported it to the police? Wouldn't the drivers notice? The only place where people repeatedly get sprayed in the face, without reacting is bukkake porn. The thing I know is that method of administering Scopolamine has a low chance of success.

I'm mortified that you said "your not that important. P.S. : your back on ignore. " I never realized I was on ignore before and the use of "your" in place of "you're" is causing me a great deal of distress.

If you have the equipment, it might be a good idea to check your blood pressure.

[JjBee62]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToQ8PWYnu04

In a drink, a swipe of your nose or inhale it it's all bad.Watch it. If you haven't realized the guy has almost no idea what he's talking about by the 1:30 mark, you should be terrified (and only allowed to use the scissors with the round tips. No sharp objects for you).

In a drink is correct, the rest is garbage. Inhaling it would require inhaling somewhere around 20-24 milligrams to have any chance to cause extreme intoxication. You have to figure that almost none of it is going to be inhaled by the victim. Try it sometime with some baby powder. The stuff goes everywhere. You're going to need a shitload of Scopolamine and some mighty powerful lungs, and hope the victim doesn't sneeze it back in your face.

A swipe of your nose? It takes 8 hours for enough Scopolamine in a transdermal patch to absorb through your skin to produce the desired effects, relief from motion sickness. If you let someone rub powdered Scopolamine over your entire body, if you don't sweat, you might absorb enough to lose consciousness in several hours. If you decide to spend several hours naked on the Transmilenio, don't let people rub Scopolamine all over your body.

You should also avoid letting people stick things up your nose and don't drink anything offered you be a stranger on the bus. As bumpy and jerky as the busses are, you'll spill it all over you.

Scopolamine is a problem. It's a problem when you give someone access to put some in your drink. To the best of my knowledge there's not one credible first hand report of any Scopolamine poisoning by any other method.

Ask a doctor. Look up the pharmacology on Scopolamine.

Instead of worrying about what you see on YouTube (produced by idiots, enjoyed by idiots), worry about protecting yourself from real threats.

[Woodman09]

Hopefully the world has learned not to listen to the working girls of BigPharma next time a BullShit Flu-Cold surfaces.

[Woodman09]

Hopefully the world has learned not to listen to the working girls of BigPharma next time a BullShit Flu-Cold surfaces.This message Edited to Lose All Meaning and Imnpact-- So Friggen Stupid.

[JjBee62]

This message Edited to Lose All Meaning and Imnpact-- So Friggen Stupid.Other than the mention that Covid tests are no longer required to return to the US, nothing more is needed. What you, I, or anyone else thinks about the requirement, now gone, has no effect on the requirement, or lack thereof.

Let me make it simple. Let's say Club XYZ in Santa Fe has a 10 K entrance fee. Some people don't want to pay the fee. Some people don't mind paying the fee. Some people think the fee is stupid. Some people think the fee is a good idea. But none of that matters. If you want to get into the club you need to pay the fee. If they get rid of the fee, you don't have to pay it. Standing in the street arguing with everyone about the fee, after it's been removed doesn't accomplish anything.

[Capt Spaz]

OMG. Are you fucking kidding me? https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16115318/.

Chloroquine is effective in preventing the spread of SARS CoV in cell culture.You are aware that SARS CoV isn't the same virus as SARS-CoV-2 and that the article you quote was published in 2005?

I'm sure with your extensive knowledge of virology you can refute the following article (I sure as hell can't).

https://academic.oup.com/jmcb/article/13/3/175/6163292

[Elvis 2008]

You are aware that SARS CoV isn't the same virus as SARS-CoV-2 and that the article you quote was published in 2005?

I'm sure with your extensive knowledge of virology you can refute the following article (I sure as hell can't).

https://academic.oup.com/jmcb/article/13/3/175/6163292LOL. Really that is what you are worried about? Are you a Democrat? Are you trying to blow smoke after Biden said you could not get Covid if you were vaccinated and after saying that, he got it? How many other officials said the same thing Biden did? You go to a post from 14 months ago?

Not that it matters anymore, but HCQ was a cocktail of three drugs. The combination of drugs was to attack viral replication, prevent inflammation, and prevent blood clots. I really could care less what a study of HCQ only showed.

The issue at hand was whether there was any rationale to take HCQ back then and the answer was yes there was a rationale; it may not have worked, but there was evidence it might work.

Still, it is no surprise that some dumb Dem leaves Biden and his health advisers alone and tries to take piece out of me. LOL. It is almost someone I put on ignore is taking a shot.

[Villainy]

Chloroquine is effective in preventing the spread of SARS CoV in cell culture. Favorable inhibition of virus spread was observed when the cells were either treated with chloroquine prior to or after SARS CoV infection.

Whether HCQ works or not is up for debate, but there is research saying it might and only a Democratic douche like yourself would say it does not.




You are aware that SARS CoV isn't the same virus as SARS-CoV-2 and that the article you quote was published in 2005?

I'm sure with your extensive knowledge of virology you can refute the following article (I sure as hell can't).

https://academic.oup.com/jmcb/article/13/3/175/6163292You may not understand something here. Elvis is the world's foremost authority on everything. Just ask him. He hasn't been to college but he is an expert in the fields of virology, immunology and epidemiology.

I guess because Chloroquine works on CoVid in a culture, it is the solution. Of course bleach and anti-freeze would also probably kill the virus as well but might, just might be harmful to the host organism. A concept that seems to have eluded our resident know-it-all.

[JjBee62]

You are aware that SARS CoV isn't the same virus as SARS-CoV-2 and that the article you quote was published in 2005?

I'm sure with your extensive knowledge of virology you can refute the following article (I sure as hell can't).

https://academic.oup.com/jmcb/article/13/3/175/6163292Windex is effective at preventing the spread of (insert favorite virus) in cell cultures. However, preventing spread in cell cultures isn't the same as preventing or treating a disease.

[JjBee62]

What I am trying to say, is that one can venture outside of SF, and have a much more pleasant GFE experience for a reasonable price.Why didn't you say that? If I'm trying to say a particular restaurant has excellent Thai food I don't spend 15 minutes talking about Chinese restaurants and Mexican restaurants where I didn't care for the food. I certainly don't then go on and declare that every Chinese and Mexican restaurant has shitty food, meanwhile failing to ever mention the restaurant I'm promoting.

It's of very little use to only report about things you don't like and don't want to do. If you're getting better GFE elsewhere in Bogota, for a reasonable price, why not report on that? Where's the report about your session with an Instagram 10, who has 15 k followers, for 200 k? For the guys who want to follow in your footsteps, knowing what you do and how you do it is better than reading sweeping generalizations about what you aren't interested in.

[MiamiBoy1]

Why didn't you say that? If I'm trying to say a particular restaurant has excellent Thai food I don't spend 15 minutes talking about Chinese restaurants and Mexican restaurants where I didn't care for the food. I certainly don't then go on and declare that every Chinese and Mexican restaurant has shitty food, meanwhile failing to ever mention the restaurant I'm promoting.

It's of very little use to only report about things you don't like and don't want to do. If you're getting better GFE elsewhere in Bogota, for a reasonable price, why not report on that? Where's the report about your session with an Instagram 10, who has 15 k followers, for 200 k? For the guys who want to follow in your footsteps, knowing what you do and how you do it is better than reading sweeping generalizations about what you aren't interested in.I don't post trip reports because they are of no value. I don't share contacts, and I don't post girls' photos on a public forum. I mainly use Seeking and Tinder, and much less FB and Insta. There is no one magic place where you find GFE for reasonable price. I prefer to stick to online platforms. If your Spanish is good, approaching girls at malls, gyms, etc is a good option. Recently I have been relying on my old contacts rather than looking for new girls. Insta 10 for 200 k? Not happening, don't be delusional.

Haven't seen any of your reports either. Most of your posts are about promoting street scene, and attacking posters who you think overpay, or pay more than you do.

[MiamiBoy1]

Damn son you sound mad af? Maybe we should exchange usernames LOL. You said you're not trying to trash Bogota yet you are. Also your fast food vs steak analogy isn't realistic, because you could be within your budget but you'll still pay more for the steak vs a cheeseburger. So there is literally zero point to mention this, yes I know my burger costs 1 dollar, maybe I don't want to spend 20 buck on steak so I can save 19 bucks. Just cause you could afford it doesn't mean we spent the same amt, yet your comment is trying to justify the 20 bucks and to make it sound as if we'll end at the same spot. No we won't cause I'll have more money left LOL, so pointless comment again.

Maybe you're young, I am too, and I can promise you many older gents have a whole lot more money than you and I combined, and yet they're the ones who roll on a budget. Absolutely nothing wrong with it. I've mongered in 15+ countries, and the guys with money that I personally know are the ones who bargain the most, save more, invest more wisely in other words, and not just in pussy.

Another thing to finally get to the point, Bogota isn't cheaper than Medellin son, I repeat, Bogota is Not cheaper. SF street girls are comparable to street girls in El centro Mde, SF clubs are also comparable to clubs in El Centro Mde. In fact clubs on the North end of Bogota are by far more superior and more expensive than those few ones in Mde, in fact no comparison in quality and in quantity. Bogota is a HUGE city, and we're only talking about a few street blocks, there are 10 x more casas, 10 x+ more clubs, meaning 10 x more photoprepagos, all categories. So this entire analysis of high mileage pussy blah blah is pure BS and if anything you sound super inexperienced LOL. These putas also rotate from cities to cities, met two chicas in Medellin that used to work in Fiebre, they recognized me. Met in a centro club and that same night saw them again in Llerra. The entire country's the same shit when it comes to putas hombre, they just rotate.If your main goal is saving, why don't you just stay home and save 100% of your hard earned money that you would otherwise spent on mongering? My primary goal is to have a great and memorable time in Colombia, everything else comes second. I have my budget, but I'm not a penny pincher. All the wealthy guys that I know don't try to save money on girls, because this kind of expense is negligible to them. They do bargain, when it comes to investing their money. Saving a few bucks on hookers doesn't make any sense to them.

I did not compare Bogota vs Medellin, do you have reading comprehension issues? And how does high mileage relate to this comparison? Makes zero sense to me. If a chick fucks 2-5 guys per day, 4-5 times a week she is doing it full time and is high mileage. This has nothing to do with rotation between the cities or clubs.

[Igor54]

I don't post trip reports because they are of no value. I don't share contacts, and I don't post girls' photos on a public forum. I mainly use Seeking and Tinder, and much less FB and Insta. There is no one magic place where you find GFE for reasonable price. I prefer to stick to online platforms. If your Spanish is good, approaching girls at malls, gyms, etc is a good option. Recently I have been relying on my old contacts rather than looking for new girls. Insta 10 for 200 k? Not happening, don't be delusional.

Haven't seen any of your reports either. Most of your posts are about promoting street scene, and attacking posters who you think overpay, or pay more than you do.Could you please share your opinion. I don't use SA and etc. But I wonder how much time does it take to get a girl from SA. Bogota? + I wonder, how many times a girl does not match your expectations? For example; fake or outdated pics or bad service. Thanks.

[QualitySmut]

I don't post trip reports because they are of no value. I don't share contacts, and I don't post girls' photos on a public forum. I mainly use Seeking and Tinder, and much less FB and Insta. There is no one magic place where you find GFE for reasonable price. I prefer to stick to online platforms. If your Spanish is good, approaching girls at malls, gyms, etc is a good option. Recently I have been relying on my old contacts rather than looking for new girls. Insta 10 for 200 k? Not happening, don't be delusional.

Haven't seen any of your reports either. Most of your posts are about promoting street scene, and attacking posters who you think overpay, or pay more than you do.2 things bothered me when reading this.

1. It would add value. Even if you don't share your contacts (which is in itself kind of selfish if you ask me). Hearing about you experiences would help younger mongers like myself understand if this is an avenue I would like to try. It would give me a blue print on how to get good GFE in Colombia. The details of the encounter can help me learn what a good deal is vs a scam. The details can help me figure out if the benefits of this path is worth the extra. To a guy like me both options sound awesome. Going up to a 7-8 on the street and sticking something in her for like 10 usd in under 30 minutes of meeting. Like I tip people that here for bringing me drinks at a restaurant. Option be take home a 9 or 10 by your personal standards and get a GFE so good it make you not want to share your prostitutes info. This option is like 65 usd or 300 k cop. I can't even get a decent covered BJ for that in the US. Either way sounds exciting and fun. I'm not sure if not posting report is a a lazy cop out or you really think they don't add value. I'm here to tell you sir I'm here wanting to know as many details as you will allow. Everything from how you select them to how you get them to meet up. Everything from your most successful strategies to you big mistakes. I could learn from all of it. So when I make my way there next month I will be able to tell more stories here about how I did things right vs telling a bunch of stories about how I wasted my times with the wrong chicas.

2. My man JjBee62 has already helped me out like 5 times this past week. 3 Directly and a few more from me running across his reports. If you asking for his reports you must not be looking very hard. It seems in Colombia there only like 3 or 4 people more active than him recently. He the OG in my opinion. Some of them weren't trip reports but there was defintely information he shared he most likely got mongering in Colombia. It's either that or he is living vicariously through the board reading this front to back like a book.

Last but not least MaddTraveler did a less than good job articulating his point countering you. I'm not taking sides in the GFE vs SF debate but I love a good debate. It turned from an argument to a loosely related rant on his part. So thanks for keeping your argument concise enough so I can enjoy your debate with the others.

[JjBee62]

I don't post trip reports because they are of no value. I don't share contacts, and I don't post girls' photos on a public forum. I mainly use Seeking and Tinder, and much less FB and Insta. There is no one magic place where you find GFE for reasonable price. I prefer to stick to online platforms. If your Spanish is good, approaching girls at malls, gyms, etc is a good option. Recently I have been relying on my old contacts rather than looking for new girls. Insta 10 for 200 k? Not happening, don't be delusional.

Haven't seen any of your reports either. Most of your posts are about promoting street scene, and attacking posters who you think overpay, or pay more than you do.What? Me? Attacking people who overpay? Promoting the street scene? Not even close.

I don't do the street scene. It's never been of much interest to me. I enjoy hanging out in areas like Santa Fe and El Centro and have seen many beautiful women working the streets in both places, but I'm not there to partake and I'm certainly not promoting it. Quite the opposite.

I've told this story many times about the first ISG member I met. He had posted asking for recommendations for lodging in Medellin. A couple of street rats told him to stay in El Centro. I suggested he book a few nights at the Mansion and figure out his comfort level. He booked in El Centro and spent 1 night locked in his room, uncomfortable and nervous. He was lucky enough to get a room at the Mansion starting his second night. He wanted to thank me for steering him in the right direction and saving his vacation.

What I've always promoted, and always will, is that people find their own comfort level. If you don't like the street scene I'll never try to convince you to stop what you like and switch. However, when you're insulting the people who prefer the streets, I'm going to say something. It has nothing to do with the street scene. It's all about letting people do their own thing. If you had been paying attention you would have seen me respond the same when people trash the Mansion, Gusto or La Isla.

Attacking people who overpay, or who pay more than I do? Again you're way off. My catchphrase has always been "Your Dick. Your money. Your business. " In just the past few days I've posted several times explaining price increases and why some girls want more money. Many times I've debated against the idea that a few guys overpaying are the reason behind price increases.

Here's another story I've tossed out several times, to explain why I don't give out contact info or post links to their social media. A guy had struck out finding a girl. I suggested one but told him she would accept nothing under 200 k (5 years ago). I gave him full disclosure on her and told him not to message her unless he was willing to pay 200 k. He lowballed her and then started insulting her when she wouldn't take 100 k.

Shit. At the end of my last trip I posted about agreeing to 2 million pesos for a trio with a set of twins (either 3 or 4 hours, pictures and video allowed). If she hadn't insisted on half in advance, I'd have cheerfully paid her. I don't care about price. While I generally keep to the average, I will pay what I feel is appropriate.

You haven't seen any of my reports because I'm not in Colombia right now. When I'm in Colombia I usually report every day. I report about restaurants where I eat, places where I stay, tourist stuff I do, the weather, the exchange rate and a bit about the girls.

While I agree that reviews about what positions and where I left my load are useless, other things are quite useful. Here are some examples:

1. When setting up with a Facebook girl I'll tell her to arrive 30-45 minutes before the time I want her to arrive. If I want her there at 8 pm, I'll tell her 7:30. Usually she'll be at my door by 8:15.

2. When a girl gives a price higher than you want, respond with "siempre pago" followed by your price. Not only is it a polite way to get a better price, it tells the girl you know what's normal.

3. When a girl gives a price without the "mil", always confirm she's talking about pesos. If she says 200, you repeat it back as "200 mil pesos?" This keeps you from finding out afterwards she expects $200.

4. It's better to pay than to argue and get the police involved. If she agreed to everything for 200 k, but didn't do half, arguing over paying her brings more trouble than you want.

5. If you speak no Spanish take a few minutes each day to learn a little. Although you can get by without Spanish, every bit you learn improves your experience. Even if you only learn to say you don't speak Spanish it will improve your interactions with Colombians.

Add in my posts about getting started with Facebook (in Medellin) and I've probably contributed a few things which some have found useful. Most of the ISG members I've met have been the result of something I posted.

Trip reports aren't useless. Don't need pictures and don't need to share contacts. Just sharing things like the area you stayed in, or where you found the girl helps guys out. It lets them know what works and who to pm for more information.

[Dcfan77]

Agreed. Santa Fe is it for everyone but I always like to compare it to Tijuana.


The fact that my opinion is different from yours doesn't mean it is not based on reality. I speak from my own experience. I had sessioned in SF before, and never had a mind blowing experience. Mediocre at best, which is expected from a high mileage girl. Speaking of high mileage, last time I was there I actually saw a girl that maybe I would do, but she was always busy even to talk to me. We just got exchanged Hello,'s and off she went with another customer. She did 3 guys, back to back, while I was there drinking my beers. When she finally became available, I passed on her, I didn't want to be her 4th (at the very least) customer that night. These girls are sex machines, they do one guy after another, do your own math. Some of them fuck more times than most of the mongers here fuck in entire lifetime. No wonder the service is mechanical and all covered. Totally expected. You don't walk in a McDonald's asking for a NY steak, right? Sf is kind of a fast food, so to speak. Cheap, quick, efficient. I understand the appeal of it to a monger from the US. Someone in his 50's-70's, maybe divorced, retired, on a budget, with literally no sex life back home. Fucking a 18-20 yo for 20 bucks is impossible back home. But here it is cheap, legal, and nobody will ever find out, in case you care about privacy. I'm not trashing the place, I actually said that it might be a good place to hang out with a buddy, have a few beers and watch the show. But I would rather prefer a nice NY steak at a sit down restaurant rather than a burger and fries at McDonald's, and still stay within my budget. Im not some weekend warrior, I know the going rates at different venues and never throw crazy money at girls. What I am trying to say, is that one can venture outside of SF, and have a much more pleasant GFE experience for a reasonable price.

[MaddTraveler]

If your main goal is saving, why don't you just stay home and save 100% of your hard earned money that you would otherwise spent on mongering? My primary goal is to have a great and memorable time in Colombia, everything else comes second. I have my budget, but I'm not a penny pincher. All the wealthy guys that I know don't try to save money on girls, because this kind of expense is negligible to them. They do bargain, when it comes to investing their money. Saving a few bucks on hookers doesn't make any sense to them.

I did not compare Bogota vs Medellin, do you have reading comprehension issues? And how does high mileage relate to this comparison? Makes zero sense to me. If a chick fucks 2-5 guys per day, 4-5 times a week she is doing it full time and is high mileage. This has nothing to do with rotation between the cities or clubs.Bruh, you're full of contradictions SIR. You're the one complaining about SF remember? Which means anyone can freely jump to the conclusion that you prefer home, Medellin LOL. So go there. Or maybe you should stay home in the state like you said. That's conflict 1, Second, you being in SF means you aint no baller and nothing but a degenerate like the rest of us, looking for cheap pussy, so in reality paying $10 vs $40 in a club is no different, to re-confirm your fast food vs steak analogy makes no sense. Your 3rd conflict is you're like a little boy crying for mommy, dude you're in a *****house and worrying about how many dudes a wg bangs? LOL. Then why are you there? Looking for a girlfriend to only pay attention to you and make love to you? What did you expect? Don't make MR E get you cause he's good at stuff like that LOL. One my heroes here!! Again, conflicted and experienced.

Don't take me seriously bruh, don't me mad, we're all deviants and degenerates having fun. No need to talk shit about an entire city just cause you had some bad pussy or a failed experience / trip. Not like that will persuade mofos from traveling. Heck other day some pothead wrote on here that prostitution is illegal in Col. Total delusion and that's what people / trolls come here to write all the time, garbage, and it means absolute jack cause we call make make our own research and we're still going to go to bang. So write, but expect replies. For fun and don't be mad.

Cheers.

[Balboa]

If your main goal is saving, why don't you just stay home and save 100% of your hard earned money that you would otherwise spent on mongering? My primary goal is to have a great and memorable time in Colombia, everything else comes second. I have my budget, but I'm not a penny pincher. All the wealthy guys that I know don't try to save money on girls, because this kind of expense is negligible to them. They do bargain, when it comes to investing their money. Saving a few bucks on hookers doesn't make any sense to them.

I did not compare Bogota vs Medellin, do you have reading comprehension issues? And how does high mileage relate to this comparison? Makes zero sense to me. If a chick fucks 2-5 guys per day, 4-5 times a week she is doing it full time and is high mileage. This has nothing to do with rotation between the cities or clubs.Bottom line is there is no right way or wrong way. Only one's particular way.

These debates always baffle me because there is no correct answer.

I love the street scene. I agree that these street scene areas are usually dumpy areas, however, I've gotten very good at finding diamonds.

I'm patient, I speak very good spanish, and I love the hunt.

I've had very good luck, especially in Medellin where I am now.

The IG, FB, SA, Club scene, etc are all great avenues as well. Just not my thing.
Like I said. There’s no right or wrong way.

Enjoy.

[Eszpresszo]

Bottom line is there is no right way or wrong way. Only one's particular way.

These debates always baffle me because there is no correct answer.

I love the street scene. I agree that these street scene areas are usually dumpy areas, however, I've gotten very good at finding diamonds.

I'm patient, I speak very good spanish, and I love the hunt.

I've had very good luck, especially in Medellin where I am now.

The IG, FB, SA, Club scene, etc are all great avenues as well. Just not my thing.
Like I said. Theres no right or wrong way.

Enjoy.I found this exchange to be very funny. Two guys who've never been south of the Darien Gap debating each other on the topic of travel fiction. But, I guess that's why it's called "Stupid Shit in Bogota".

[Balboa]

I found this exchange to be very funny. Two guys who've never been south of the Darien Gap debating each other on the topic of travel fiction. But, I guess that's why it's called "Stupid Shit in Bogota".Just perfect! Coming from the forum’s pompous moron.

Please show us more passport stamps!

[Gabacho]

Bruh, you're full of contradictions SIR. You're the one complaining about SF remember? Which means anyone can freely jump to the conclusion that you prefer home, Medellin LOL. So go there. Or maybe you should stay home in the state like you said. That's conflict 1, Second, you being in SF means you aint no baller and nothing but a degenerate like the rest of us, looking for cheap pussy, so in reality paying $10 vs $40 in a club is no different, to re-confirm your fast food vs steak analogy makes no sense. Your 3rd conflict is you're like a little boy crying for mommy, dude you're in a *****house and worrying about how many dudes a wg bangs? LOL. Then why are you there? Looking for a girlfriend to only pay attention to you and make love to you? What did you expect? Don't make MR E get you cause he's good at stuff like that LOL. One my heroes here!! Again, conflicted and experienced.

Don't take me seriously bruh, don't me mad, we're all deviants and degenerates having fun. No need to talk shit about an entire city just cause you had some bad pussy or a failed experience / trip. Not like that will persuade mofos from traveling. Heck other day some pothead wrote on here that prostitution is illegal in Col. Total delusion and that's what people / trolls come here to write all the time, garbage, and it means absolute jack cause we call make make our own research and we're still going to go to bang. So write, but expect replies. For fun and don't be mad.

Cheers.Yea this guy MB1 is an idiot, I'm glad I'm not the only one who calls him out on his bullshit. He should just stay out of Colombia all together.

[JjBee62]

Just perfect! Coming from the forums pompous moron.

Please show us more passport stamps!Did some bastard move the Darien Gap while I wasn't looking?

[Eszpresszo]

Just perfect! Coming from the forums pompous moron.

Please show us more passport stamps! 🤪Okay, here you go. A nice, fresh one for you. Just got back last night. You see, that's what you get when you actually travel to Colombia in real life!

Yes, I'm back in Medellin. So, where's MiamiBoy, your partner in fiction? Probably in Miami, OK or Miamisburg, OH? Definitely not Miami-Dade.

Hey, a while back you were telling Nounce over on the Brazil forum, that you blocked me long ago? How is it that you are able to read and respond to my posts and call me a pompous moron, if in fact, you blocked me? Just couldn't stay away, could you?

[Balboa]

Okay, here you go. A nice, fresh one for you. Just got back last night. You see, that's what you get when you actually travel to Colombia in real life!

Yes, I'm back in Medellin. So, where's MiamiBoy, your partner in fiction? Probably in Miami, OK or Miamisburg, OH? Definitely not Miami-Dade.

Hey, a while back you were telling Nounce over on the Brazil forum, that you blocked me long ago? How is it that you are able to read and respond to my posts and call me a pompous moron, if in fact, you blocked me? Just couldn't stay away, could you?I did recently unblock you.

How else am I going to keep tabs on your passport stamps Lol.

[TooDirty]

I wish Colombia would adopt El Salvador's recent harsh treatment of criminals. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRu1BtMBod4.

Make Bogota as safe as Bangkok and I'd be a happy camper.

[Gabacho]

First of all I've been going to Colombia longer than you have been alive, so I believe you have a lot of posts with limited knowledge. I have never paid in dollars anywhere! Or 400 600 cop. I have a list of favorites, non pros who until this year never even mentioned the high prices YOU Medellin squarters brought to Bogota. I only mentioned the cost of changing dollars to cop and the exchange rate they rip you off for. You really need to brush up on you reading comprehension, I said I have always paid in local currencies for the last 30 years. So if the knuckle heads who pay these girls 400 k and you Medellin guys continue doing it then AND ONLY THEN is it better to pay 100 USD than go through the exchange bull shit and pay 100 USD which after all the exchange bullshit shakes out to be around 3500 to a dollar for the guys like you who are paying hard core prepagos 400 and 500 in Medellin and bringing that shit here to Bogota. Pay attention now, stay with me on this. I SAID THEY PAY THESES GIRLS 400/500 cop not me, never have and never will. And I don't fuck hard core pros either like you and some others feed on. Now go get your shine box.You must have me confused. I first came to Bogota way before I ever came to Medellin, I've only been coming to Medellin since 2020 but I came to Bogota first time in 2018. I know Santa fe like the back of my hand and most the girls I fuck are the 40 mil (used to be 30 mil) street girls, where in Santa fe or in plaza botero.

I may splurge once in a while in Facebook girls and fsy around 100 to 150 mil but that is a far cry from 400,500,or 600 mil that you mention, and it's usually for BBFS if I'm paying 100 mil or more.

Also if you have been coming here since 1985 then how come you don't not know how to maximize your exchange rate at the ATM??

First of all you get a bank account with a debit card that doesn't charge any foreigner ATM fees or currency conversion fees. Two that come to mind are capital one and schwab however there are probably more. Then you go an ATM in Colombia that doesn't charge any fees to withdrawl. Up until recently this included Davivienda, Caja Social, BBVA, and Banco Pichincha. (It appears now to only be Caja Social and Pinchicha).

Anyways by combining the proper bank account with the proper ATM you don't pay any fees whatsoever, and you get COP at the midmarket rate listed on Google (from 2 days prior) so you would get over 3900 pesos per dollar if you went and made a withdrawal today using this method (not 3500 as you say).

And bringing in USD notes and then changing them at a money change place such as in the airport is just stupid and then you will get ripped off. Also paying in "crisp $100 usd bills" is also stupid and asking to get ripped off. But hey you're the man with all the experience so you should already know that, but instead you are telling guys to pay with $100 usd bills-- go figure.

[Elvis 2008]

You must have me confused. I first came to Bogota way before I ever came to Medellin, I've only been coming to Medellin since 2020 but I came to Bogota first time in 2018. I know Santa fe like the back of my hand and most the girls I fuck are the 40 mil (used to be 30 mil) street girls, where in Santa fe or in plaza botero.Everyone gets those prices and LL has been in Bogota waaaay before you have.


I may splurge once in a while in Facebook girls and fsy around 100 to 150 mil but that is a far cry from 400,500,or 600 mil that you mention, and it's usually for BBFS if I'm paying 100 mil or more.LL has a GF type woman and pays nothing. I just wasted my time telling you about all the free encounters I had. You are just they typical Medellin moron who has to tell everyone about how you are such a stud because you get more for less. We have seen the pictures of the ugly women you have been seeing. You admit you are spending $100 a month on some hole in the wall apartment and live in El Centro. You are getting cheap ass pussy but when it goes up a little, like everything these days has been, you * against other men for your having to spend a little more.

My apartment in Cartagena was 3 million COP per month. At its lowest, when the exchange was 5000 to 1, I was paying $600 a month. They raised the rent to 3. 5 million. So now it is close to $1000. If I were in Medellin moron like you, I would be asking, Now which one of you fucking gringos is responsible for that?


Also paying in "crisp $100 usd bills" is also stupid and asking to get ripped off.I do not recall LL getting ripped off but I know you have. Do you think your getting ripped off makes you an expert on the subject?

And LL is right. A lot of women do not know the exchange rate and giving them $100 may seem like more than giving them 4000 k COP.


You get COP at the midmarket rate listed on Google (from 2 days prior) so you would get over 3900 pesos per dollar if you went and made a withdrawal today using this method (not 3500 as you say).That is great if the peso goes up versus the dollar. If it goes the other way, you are screwed. If you are such a stud at arbitrage, why are you so obsessed with saving pennies?

The shoe shine business must really be in a downturn.

[Gabacho]

Everyone gets those prices and LL has been in Bogota waaaay before you have.

LL has a GF type woman and pays nothing. I just wasted my time telling you about all the free encounters I had. You are just they typical Medellin moron who has to tell everyone about how you are such a stud because you get more for less. We have seen the pictures of the ugly women you have been seeing. You admit you are spending $100 a month on some hole in the wall apartment and live in El Centro. You are getting cheap ass pussy but when it goes up a little, like everything these days has been, you * against other men for your having to spend a little more.

My apartment in Cartagena was 3 million COP per month. At its lowest, when the exchange was 5000 to 1, I was paying $600 a month. They raised the rent to 3. 5 million. So now it is close to $1000. If I were in Medellin moron like you, I would be asking, Now which one of you fucking gringos is responsible for that?

I do not recall LL getting ripped off but I know you have. Do you think your getting ripped off makes you an expert on the subject?

And LL is right. A lot of women do not know the exchange rate and giving them $100 may seem like more than giving them 4000 k COP.

That is great if the peso goes up versus the dollar. If it goes the other way, you are screwed. If you are such a stud at arbitrage, why are you so obsessed with saving pennies?

The shoe shine business must really be in a downturn.This has nothing to do with you Elvis, you're just Butt-hurt about the rim job comment LOL. Maybe if you hadn't said in the past that your novia locks your ass for free it wouldn't have came up LOL.

[Gabacho]

Everyone gets those prices and LL has been in Bogota waaaay before you have.

LL has a GF type woman and pays nothing. I just wasted my time telling you about all the free encounters I had. You are just they typical Medellin moron who has to tell everyone about how you are such a stud because you get more for less. We have seen the pictures of the ugly women you have been seeing. You admit you are spending $100 a month on some hole in the wall apartment and live in El Centro. You are getting cheap ass pussy but when it goes up a little, like everything these days has been, you * against other men for your having to spend a little more.

My apartment in Cartagena was 3 million COP per month. At its lowest, when the exchange was 5000 to 1, I was paying $600 a month. They raised the rent to 3. 5 million. So now it is close to $1000. If I were in Medellin moron like you, I would be asking, Now which one of you fucking gringos is responsible for that?

I do not recall LL getting ripped off but I know you have. Do you think your getting ripped off makes you an expert on the subject?

And LL is right. A lot of women do not know the exchange rate and giving them $100 may seem like more than giving them 4000 k COP.

That is great if the peso goes up versus the dollar. If it goes the other way, you are screwed. If you are such a stud at arbitrage, why are you so obsessed with saving pennies?

The shoe shine business must really be in a downturn.I don't know why you getting all Butt-hurt Elvis, you know you made the ass licking comment. I think you deleted it after the fact because I can't find it now, but even Villany had mentioned it too, that your elite novia "licks your ass on demand".


Come on man. You're talking about Elvis! The man is a legend in his own mind. He knows an elite woman when he pays for her. OK OK the Vennie beauty queen that loved him long time, well long enough for him to pay to move her and her family to Peru. Oddly enough she fell out of love with him after that. But not to worry. Our hero. Yes Elvis is our hero and we are all SO jealous of him too. Well he found another amazing specimen in the "elite" pages of Seeking Arrangement. Turns out she was a 30 something washed up worn-out hooker with a teenage daughter but she is definitely elite. He stepped up to show how committed he was. He pays her monthly rent and expenses. And in appreciation for having an older, undereducated, obese slob of a man she even licks his ass on demand. Just imagine how he must love sucking tongue after that.

Well I guess I should just stop it. Afterall this is the Texas-Colombia version of Pretty Woman. Just one last thing Elvis. If your companion truly was "elite" what would she be doing slumming with the likes of you??You never did answer Villany's question though, Elvis. How much do you love sucking your elite trans woman's tongue after she gives you your on demand rim job?

[Elvis 2008]

I don't know why you getting all Butt-hurt ElvisI told you. It is because I wasted my time on a Medellin moron cult member like you.


You know you made the ass licking comment. I think you deleted it after the factYou need to get a life.


How much do you love sucking your elite trans woman's tongue after she gives you your on demand rim job?When I mentioned that, Mr. E said he was getting the same treatment and in the classic Medellin moron style, was getting it bigger and better and cheaper than I was. Why didn't you ask him about kissing after a rim job? Oh right, he is a fellow cult member.

That above example shows just what a pathetic loser follower you are. The first time I butted heads with you Medellin morons was over Covid. You dummies swallowed every line of government bullshit there was. And you are back to your slithering cult mantra ways. Don't pay in dollars. Pay in pesos. The girl loves your money not you. I don't care what women think of me. We have GFs and are fucking hookers on the side but our GFs still love us.

The worst though is pretending to care about how much other guys pay. There is an idiotic attempt to say that the reason you all are paying more these days is because other guys come down to your turf and ruin it by overpaying. It is absurd because not every guy who pays hookers reads this forum and certainly the Colombian men do not, but that does not stop your illogical and incessant whining about paying a few extra bucks.

Thing about you Medellin morons I learned pretty quickly is you all are lying your asses off on price. I could not get the prices you all were quoting. Then Woodman, who lives in Santa Fe, chimes in and says he cannot either. Whenever you mentioned price, I learned if I doubled it, I would come closer to the truth. It is either that or you all are fucking the ugliest women around.

And elite trans woman? You have never met my woman and God willing, you never will. And you or anyone who makes a comment like that about my woman just shows me you are fucking crazy. I have told you of all the objective sources with regards to her beauty, so you cult losers make up all these dumb comments like she is trans and a prostitute? Why would you do that outside of being jealous as fuck?

When Viliany says, if she were that great, why would she be with you Elvis, he has not met either of us. What he is really saying is if a woman is that great, she should be with him. Ha!

Why would any woman want to be with you losers? You claim you have GFs and then fuck hookers on the side. You all cannot deal with reality. You all make up shit and then proclaim it as fact and then bully anyone who does not agree with you. That is why you are the Medellin moron cult.

As for being butt hurt, I wasted my time telling you how to get laid for nothing, and you, a certified centro rat, bring up safety. Oh boy. The truth is you are too chicken shit to even try what I told you. It is just better lying to yourself and saying you do not care what women think of you. That way you can pretend they are not rejecting you.

But it is my fault. I thought you might be subject to reason but you are a cult member. Go back to your Medellin morons, Gabacho. It is where you belong.

[Gabacho]

I told you. It is because I wasted my time on a Medellin moron cult member like you.

You need to get a life.

When I mentioned that, Mr. E said he was getting the same treatment and in the classic Medellin moron style, was getting it bigger and better and cheaper than I was. Why didn't you ask him about kissing after a rim job? Oh right, he is a fellow cult member.

That above example shows just what a pathetic loser follower you are. The first time I butted heads with you Medellin morons was over Covid. You dummies swallowed every line of government bullshit there was. And you are back to your slithering cult mantra ways. Don't pay in dollars. Pay in pesos. The girl loves your money not you. I don't care what women think of me. We have GFs and are fucking hookers on the side but our GFs still love us.

The worst though is pretending to care about how much other guys pay. There is an idiotic attempt to say that the reason you all are paying more these days is because other guys come down to your turf and ruin it by overpaying. It is absurd because not every guy who pays hookers reads this forum and certainly the Colombian men do not, but that does not stop your illogical and incessant whining about paying a few extra bucks.

Thing about you Medellin morons I learned pretty quickly is you all are lying your asses off on price. I could not get the prices you all were quoting. Then Woodman, who lives in Santa Fe, chimes in and says he cannot either. Whenever you mentioned price, I learned if I doubled it, I would come closer to the truth. It is either that or you all are fucking the ugliest women around.

And elite trans woman? You have never met my woman and God willing, you never will. And you or anyone who makes a comment like that about my woman just shows me you are fucking crazy. I have told you of all the objective sources with regards to her beauty, so you cult losers make up all these dumb comments like she is trans and a prostitute? Why would you do that outside of being jealous as fuck?

When Viliany says, if she were that great, why would she be with you Elvis, he has not met either of us. What he is really saying is if a woman is that great, she should be with him. Ha!

Why would any woman want to be with you losers? You claim you have GFs and then fuck hookers on the side. You all cannot deal with reality. You all make up shit and then proclaim it as fact and then bully anyone who does not agree with you. That is why you are the Medellin moron cult.

As for being butt hurt, I wasted my time telling you how to get laid for nothing, and you, a certified centro rat, bring up safety. Oh boy. The truth is you are too chicken shit to even try what I told you. It is just better lying to yourself and saying you do not care what women think of you. That way you can pretend they are not rejecting you.

But it is my fault. I thought you might be subject to reason but you are a cult member. Go back to your Medellin morons, Gabacho. It is where you belong.I am not lying about the prices I pay. In plaza botero and around the Centro area I pay 40 mil and I pay 9 mil for the hotel if I go hotel botero real. I also have Facebook girls that I pay around 100 mil to 150 mil and take them to hotel pasaje real which is 22 mil for the room but it's 3 hours instead of 30 mins, since the Facebook girls are less likely to be clockwatchers than the street girls I prefer to take them to that one.

As far as lower prices than that, in cucuta I have fucked street girls for as low as 25 mil and 5 mil for the room. I know it may sound like I'm lying to believe you can fuck a hot vennie for like $7. 50 usd but it is true, I even posted pictures in the cucuta thread showing some of the women I fucked there in 2021 and 2022.

I'm not lying about anything Elvis.

And Mr. E and Villany post alot more reliable information than you do, you just get on here to argue with people and make an ass of yourself.

[Mr Enternational]

You Know You were with a sub-par girl and You didn't have a good time.Funny a brother in the Rio thread just met AND fucked the same chicks at one place that he had already fucked at a much more expensive place. So of course I had to ask if the experience was any different fucking the exact same girls at either of the places for different prices. His answer was not surprising. Also not surprising (although many will still swear it to not be true) is that they actually do go for different prices with different people at the same places. Just because she went with you for 500, does not mean she did not go with the last guy for 300 or the guy before him for 200. So you can not say that just because she went with you for 500 that 500 is "the price" or that she will not go for less than 500 or even can not get more than 500. Also can not say that if someone paid less, then the service was not as good as this brother testifies to paying less and getting the exact same thing as when he paid more.


You're right, just like in DR. The same pussy, the same service, different pricing I was paying for the same two garotas. Nothing in the porno duplo session was different. She showed me the wassap messages of her amiga garotas de programa sharing how much specific guys are paying for sessions in Scandallo. Yeah, I felt like a dupe paying more for the same double pussy sessions and IoP experiences.

[Sangnyc21]

Funny a brother in the Rio thread just met AND fucked the same chicks at one place that he had already fucked at a much more expensive place. So of course I had to ask if the experience was any different fucking the exact same girls at either of the places for different prices. His answer was not surprising. Also not surprising (although many will still swear it to not be true) is that they actually do go for different prices with different people at the same places. Just because she went with you for 500, does not mean she did not go with the last guy for 300 or the guy before him for 200. So you can not say that just because she went with you for 500 that 500 is "the price" or that she will not go for less than 500 or even can not get more than 500. Also can not say that if someone paid less, then the service was not as good as this brother testifies to paying less and getting the exact same thing as when he paid more.Love how you always have a story to think that all hookers are on the exact same level.

It's simply not the case. Yes each girl will try to maximize her income as in any other industry.

Yea when a 200 k girl gets desperate she'll accept 100 k.

You think a girl who asks for 500 usd plus who has flown around the world and back and been given thousands upon thousands of dollars for a quick day or 2. You think those girls are going to come down to your level??

Any guy who makes fun of another man's spending habits or insults him because he pays too much is the most low value bitter form of a man.

You can always try to lend a hand and say hey you're paying too much. But you notice only the true losers come out and insult others. This is just a damn hobby for leisure. And if the money is such a big deal maybe one should seriously consider a cheaper hobby instead of insulting others.

That's like me insulting a man who bought a lambo and saying what an idiot my ford can do the same thing and it saves me money on gas. Lmao. I'm the type of guy that rather be in the lambo. And if that bothers some of you then tough. But unless you can provide useful info why even bother to quote my posts and talk about my spending habits. That's the sign of a low value man.

[Woodman09]

Love how you always have a story to think that all hookers are on the exact same level.

It's simply not the case. Yes each girl will try to maximize her income as in any other industry.

Yea when a 200 k girl gets desperate she'll accept 100 k.

You think a girl who asks for 500 usd plus who has flown around the world and back and been given thousands upon thousands of dollars for a quick day or 2. You think those girls are going to come down to your level??

Any guy who makes fun of another man's spending habits or insults him because he pays too much is the most low value bitter form of a man.

You can always try to lend a hand and say hey you're paying too much. But you notice only the true losers come out and insult others. This is just a damn hobby for leisure. And if the money is such a big deal maybe one should seriously consider a cheaper hobby instead of insulting others.

That's like me insulting a man who bought a lambo and saying what an idiot my ford can do the same thing and it saves me money on gas. Lmao. I'm the type of guy that rather be in the lambo. And if that bothers some of you then tough. But unless you can provide useful info why even bother to quote my posts and talk about my spending habits. That's the sign of a low value man.Pretty funny how this guy did the exact same thing in recent reply / posts.

[Sangnyc21]

Pretty funny how this guy did the exact same thing in recent reply / posts.Exactly what did I do?? Please enlighten this board.

[HumbleHal]

You think a girl who asks for 500 usd plus who has flown around the world and back and been given thousands upon thousands of dollars for a quick day or 2.
...Any guy who makes fun of another man's spending habits or insults him because he pays too much is the most low value bitter form of a man.Agree completely. Airfare is expensive and often 3-5 times the cost of a woman, then you have to pay for lodging, transportation and meals. Plus my time is worth a lot too. How much? I make a hell of a lot of money each day I work. So why go to Colombia? Lately I have found a lot of Colombian and Vene women right in my own town and laugh at you guys who talk about "negotiate them down" like you have a skill and a talent that is soooh important. You guys are really just cheap Charlies and I understand why many of the women get sick and tired of you chislers, and why the girls learn to start out asking for double the price they will actually accept.

[Mr Enternational]

Agree completely. Airfare is expensive and often 3-5 times the cost of a woman, then you have to pay for lodging, transportation and meals. Plus my time is worth a lot too. How much? I make a hell of a lot of money each day I work. So why go to Colombia? Lately I have found a lot of Colombian and Vene women right in my own town and laugh at you guys who talk about "negotiate them down" like you have a skill and a talent that is soooh important. You guys are really just cheap Charlies and I understand why many of the women get sick and tired of you chislers, and why the girls learn to start out asking for double the price they will actually accept.Man are you forgetting these are hookers? They are not some lost family heirloom that you must get back at any price. They are available to sell pussy. Who cares what they are sick and tired of? And if they are sick and tired of tricks wanting them to swallow cum or fuck them in the ass? Should guys then "respect" the hooker and stop trying to do that the way you are saying the should not try to talk her initial price down?

There is no "the price". The only price is the one you both AGREE on. It is not about skills or talent. It is about an agreement. When I bought my bike the asking price was $3700. I said how about $3000. They said ok. You think the dealer was sick and tired of "Cheap Charlies" like me that will not go along with the asking price? Because I do not think he would have sold it if he was going to lose money or put himself at a disadvantage. Nothing wrong with figuring out how much a person will take versus how much they are asking.

In one place guys are yelling about how cheap other guys are when it comes to paying for pussy. In another place you have guys that don't want to pay an extra $50 for a visa to get to the pussy. But those guys would have no problem spending an extra $50 for pussy itself. And those guys that do not want to pay for a visa are not being ridiculed for being Cheap Charlies. Make that make sense.

Sorry if I treat buying pussy the same as I treat everything else I buy. To me it ain't that special.

[Sangnyc21]

Man are you forgetting these are hookers? They are not some lost family heirloom that you must get back at any price. They are available to sell pussy. Who cares what they are sick and tired of? And if they are sick and tired of tricks wanting them to swallow cum or fuck them in the ass? Should guys then "respect" the hooker and stop trying to do that the way you are saying the should not try to talk her initial price down?

There is no "the price". The only price is the one you both AGREE on. It is not about skills or talent. It is about an agreement. When I bought my bike the asking price was $3700. I said how about $3000. They said ok. You think the dealer was sick and tired of "Cheap Charlies" like me that will not go along with the asking price? Because I do not think he would have sold it if he was going to lose money or put himself at a disadvantage. Nothing wrong with figuring out how much a person will take versus how much they are asking.

In one place guys are yelling about how cheap other guys are when it comes to paying for pussy. In another place you have guys that don't want to pay an extra $50 for a visa to get to the pussy. But those guys would have no problem spending an extra $50 for pussy itself. And those guys that do not want to pay for a visa are not being ridiculed for being Cheap Charlies. Make that make sense.

Sorry if I treat buying pussy the same as I treat everything else I buy. To me it ain't that special.It's really not the same. Physical products and a human selling their body really isn't the same thing. And it's really not a choice they have in a poorer country.

You really think a hot 20 something yos first choice in life is to bang a 60+ yo guy who has terrible hygiene and smells like shit.

[Mr Enternational]

It's really not the same. Physical products and a human selling their body really isn't the same thing. And it's really not a choice they have in a poorer country.

You really think a hot 20 something yos first choice in life is to bang a 60+ yo guy who has terrible hygiene and smells like shit.LOL. BS excuses. There is always a choice. If it was not a choice then I would not know many people that are NOT doing it. If it was not a choice then you would see more 40,50, and 60 year old hookers out there. How are women of those ages making it if there is no choice? Why does it seem to be a choice for them but nobody younger?

There are even mfs out begging for money or stealing and not hoeing. When you get out of those circles and hang around people that are not in that lifestyle then you see it is definitely a choice. Life is not either rocket scientist or hooker and since I did not go to school for rocket science then hooker it is. There are countless shades of gray to CHOOSE between that black and white.

So she can not tell the 60 year old with terrible hygiene that she will not service him or at least to wash his ass first? There are too many reports here of people trying to pick up hookers and being ignored to believe she HAS to go with a person she does not want to go with. You think she does not like waking up when she wants to instead of at 5:30 am to ride the trans to clean offices or change a disabled person's shitty diaper?

You think she does not like the $500 per day or whatever you guys claim she can make? You think she really finds it terrible for a 60 year old elvis with terrible hygiene to fly her to Cancun, Paris, Morocco? There are advantages and disadvantages to every job. And the jobs that most people have are usually not their first choice. But most people tend to settle into something other than being a hooker. There is something for everyone though and it takes all kinds. The world needs hookers the same way that it needs ditch diggers. What it does not need though is excuses for them.

[Elvis 2008]

You think she does not like the $500 per day or whatever you guys claim she can make? You think she really finds it terrible for a 60 year old elvis with terrible hygiene to fly her to Cancun, Paris, Morocco? There are advantages and disadvantages to every job. And the jobs that most people have are usually not their first choice. But most people tend to settle into something other than being a hooker. There is something for everyone though and it takes all kinds. The world needs hookers the same way that it needs ditch diggers. What it does not need though is excuses for them.We never met and my poor hygiene is more of your fantasy. You make shit up and then proclaim it to be real.

You said every encounter you have is great. If pussy is pussy, that is impossible. There is no great pussy or bad pussy. Every encounter you have would by definition HAVE to be average. So your bragging about great pussy at a low price is just more bullshit.

But the rest of it is just stupid. The times I went to Santa Fe in Bogota, the biggest price difference was not paying her fee but getting her off the street or the club. You see while a sewer rat like yourself loves Santa Fe with its cardboard beds and hotel rooms smelling of bleach and condoms, I had a hard time cumming in those places. So we hear this incessant whining from rats like you, "Don't pay more. You will ruin it for others. " What the hell is the point of getting a hooker if you cannot cum? Not everybody in the world is like you. Thank God.

I said this before and I will say it again. We got the same prices on everywhere there was a standard price. But when there was not standard pricing, you claimed that you would get it for half. Well now I see why. By your own words, you have no fucking clue what quality pussy is.

By your own admission, you have no idea why there is demand for a beautiful woman. You have no idea if a woman is good in bed because they are all good.

For those of us with jobs where time is money, it makes zero economic sense to fly to Africa to score cheap pussy. The only reason any of us working guys would go would be to get a top shelf 9-10 type woman for something long term, but you admitted you do not what that is. You showed pics of women, and I was like, "Why would I travel for that?

You think going there is so smart but what you are really showing us is that your time is worth nothing.

And if pussy is pussy, how is it economically savvy to be flying all over the world to get it? You think you are so fucking smart, but you remind me of a guy I know who would spend $5 in gas to save a buck with a coupon.

[Sangnyc21]

LOL. BS excuses. There is always a choice. If it was not a choice then I would not know many people that are NOT doing it. If it was not a choice then you would see more 40,50, and 60 year old hookers out there. How are women of those ages making it if there is no choice? Why does it seem to be a choice for them but nobody younger?

There are even mfs out begging for money or stealing and not hoeing. When you get out of those circles and hang around people that are not in that lifestyle then you see it is definitely a choice. Life is not either rocket scientist or hooker and since I did not go to school for rocket science then hooker it is. There are countless shades of gray to CHOOSE between that black and white.

So she can not tell the 60 year old with terrible hygiene that she will not service him or at least to wash his ass first? There are too many reports here of people trying to pick up hookers and being ignored to believe she HAS to go with a person she does not want to go with. You think she does not like waking up when she wants to instead of at 5:30 am to ride the trans to clean offices or change a disabled person's shitty diaper?.Look here's what I notice about you Mr E.

You always act like you're the know all and be all of this board. You always bring up a one or two time experience to always debunk the general narrative. That's your thing to berate members every single time as if you know better or your experiences are the be all of everything. But it's not.

You say pussy is just not that important but yet you seem the need to negotiate every single girl down just as you did your motorcycle right? So obviously there is some importance to it. But here's the truth that people like you and Gabacho will never understand in a million years.

There are people like me and many others on this board that say money is not that important because we view it as something that we can simply make so to throw 500 usd away on some pussy is just a leisure for us.

So while you can make assumptions about high end girls all you want the truth is you really don't know because you're not the type to take a girl on a nice trip just for leisure and enjoyment. You think all iPhones and bags these girls carry is fake or gifted by simps. You never understand some of these girls have a lot of money and even buy cars. It's well documented you have said these things in the past.

And to your point if you think women in your realm have a choice it's prob not true.

The 40-120 mil girl on the street needs to make $$ to survive.

The 500 mil girl who does have a choice but chooses that her body is worth a lot and willing to sell it for the right price. That's the big difference.

[Nounce]

...because you're not the type to take a girl on a nice trip just for leisure and enjoyment. ....If you read his reports, he took girls to places. He just does not take hookers. I think you got a few important things wrong about him.

I was at a club Sense in Curitiba. It's more luxurious than Lido and anything I know in Medellin. One girl I met wanted 800. She knew I was from Sao Paulo so she talked to me about Scandello which is a club more luxurious than Sense. I asked how much she charged at Scandallo. She said more than 1 k. In another club Class. I met many girls from Sense because Sense closes at 11 PM. Class closed at 4 AM. Class is at least at good as Gusto and has live music. Most girls change 500. What do you make of these price difference?

Another girl I met at Sense who was a beautician. My question to you is why she makes more money at Sense than a job that takes years of training?

Most of them derive their value form the men they are with. Not every girls at Sense go to Class, But if they do, they won't be able to charge the same amount at Sense.

There are people that have learned to have the same pleasure from $10 hookers as from $10000 hookers. They pay less for the same outcome. That is the difference. They way people talked about spending money as if they are proportional to pleasure makes little sense to me

[Mr Enternational]

And if pussy is pussy, how is it economically savvy to be flying all over the world to get it? You think you are so fucking smart, but you remind me of a guy I know who would spend $5 in gas to save a buck with a coupon.Sorry buddy. I do not travel in order to get pussy. I can get that anywhere I choose to be with no problem, so getting pussy does not figure in to me deciding travel somewhere. I travel for the love of seeing and learning new things. If I just happen to get some pussy while I am in one of those places, then that is what it is, but that is not why I chose to go there. I do not have to think I am so smart; I have the degrees and other skills to prove it.

[Mr Enternational]

You say pussy is just not that important but yet you seem the need to negotiate every single girl down just as you did your motorcycle right? So obviously there is some importance to it.I am not getting your equating of negotiating to whether something is important or not. Maybe if it was so important I would pay the first price I am given, but I know that was not the last pussy nor motorcycle made so I am not afraid to lose out on either due to a negotiation.


There are people like me and many others on this board that say money is not that important because we view it as something that we can simply make so to throw 500 usd away on some pussy is just a leisure for us.You make it, so it is yours to spend how you please. I would rather spend mine in different ways such as learning a new skill, going to a place I have not been, or on one of the numerous expensive hobbies that I already have. Like I said, buying pussy is not important enough to me to spend $500 on. Going to Tahiti to have a good time with my girlfriend is what was important enough for me to be spending $900/ night on a water bungalow at the Hilton.


So while you can make assumptions about high end girls all you want the truth is you really don't know because you're not the type to take a girl on a nice trip just for leisure and enjoyment.That is incorrect. Seems like I am going on a wonderful trip with a chick damn near every month. The catch is they are not hookers.


And to your point if you think women in your realm have a choice it's prob not true.

The 40-120 mil girl on the street needs to make $$ to survive.

The 500 mil girl who does have a choice but chooses that her body is worth a lot and willing to sell it for the right price. That's the big difference.Why do you need to give them an excuse? I just saw 3 guys on the back of a stinking ass garbage truck. Do they get an excuse too? Did somebody force them to work on the back of that truck? With all the help wanted signs around this mf they could be working at a number of other places.

And it is the same for the hookers that you make excuses for. Have you even asked THEM why they CHOSE to do it and they told you that it was not a choice? Or are you just assuming that because it is a dirty job that you yourself would not do then they must not have a choice? I have met hookers here in Thailand and told them they could come over and clean my place to make some extra money. And you know what they told me? I do not clean; I fuck for money. Did they not make a choice of what they would and would not do? They did not want the honest job money. They wanted the easy horing money. Everybody needs to make money to survive. And everybody has a choice of how to make said money. Unless you see some slaves running around here then everyone has a choice.

[Sangnyc21]

If you read his reports, he took girls to places. He just does not take hookers. I think you got a few important things wrong about him.

I was at a club Sense in Curitiba. It's more luxurious than Lido and anything I know in Medellin. One girl I met wanted 800. She knew I was from Sao Paulo so she talked to me about Scandello which is a club more luxurious than Sense. I asked how much she charged at Scandallo. She said more than 1 k. In another club Class. I met many girls from Sense because Sense closes at 11 PM. Class closed at 4 AM. Class is at least at good as Gusto and has live music. Most girls change 500. What do you make of these price difference?

Another girl I met at Sense who was a beautician. My question to you is why she makes more money at Sense than a job that takes years of training?

Most of them derive their value form the men they are with. Not every girls at Sense go to Class, But if they do, they won't be able to charge the same amount at Sense.

There are people that have learned to have the same pleasure from $10 hookers as from $10000 hookers. They pay less for the same outcome. That is the difference. They way people talked about spending money as if they are proportional to pleasure makes little sense to meI can understand this POV. But the thing you said is proving my exact point about what I said about cars. The people who only spend 10 $ are the same ones that say a BMW and a ford are the same thing with the same result.

And I'm not here to insult guys who spend 10 $ to get girls. But it seems that those guys are always the ones insulting the guys who spend more.

[Elvis 2008]

Sorry buddy. I do not travel in order to get pussy. I can get that anywhere I choose to be with no problem, so getting pussy does not figure in to me deciding travel somewhere. I travel for the love of seeing and learning new things.Yeah, it is just a coincidence you show up in the ideal places to monger. That rent controlled apartment you have had in Thailand for 15 years was for learning new things?


You make it, so it is yours to spend how you please. I would rather spend mine in different ways such as learning a new skill, going to a place I have not been, or on one of the numerous expensive hobbies that I already have. Like I said, buying pussy is not important enough to me to spend $500 on. Going to Tahiti to have a good time with my girlfriend is what was important enough for me to be spending $900/ night on a water bungalow at the Hilton. Seems like I am going on a wonderful trip with a chick damn near every month.You have a girlfriend who does not mind you going out with other chicks every month and spending all kinds of money on them?


The catch is they are not hookers.And your source on that is as good as why my rent was raised. It is what you want to believe. You have no clue what these women are doing when you are not around and hookers would certainly put up with your behaviors.


I do not have to think I am so smart; I have the degrees and other skills to prove it.If you were really smart, you would not have to make all this stupid shit up.

[Mr Enternational]

You have a girlfriend who does not mind you going out with other chicks every month and spending all kinds of money on them?I guess it works kind of the same way as your girlfriend not minding you coming on a hooker board everyday to talk about her and her daughter.


You have no clue what these women are doing when you are not around and hookers would certainly put up with your behaviors.Why do you assume I care what they are doing when I am not around? Same as that old hag you are paying rent for is licking some other guy's ass when you are not around. And he does not have to pony up any rent money to get her to do it.

[DonCarlos1234]

I am glad to see this board has elevated into other subjects besides Santa Fe. I was in Colombia the last 2 weeks and only went downtown for a Testosterone injection. Instead I met a couple of Lamborghini types that have traveled (probably 4 $) outside the country. Yep but I only rented that Lambo and will happily do it again on my next visit. We are planning to spend a few days (a week?) together in either the Medellin or La Calera area. But now (taking a hint from Elvis) I am going to ask her about bringing a friend or maybe staying in a Bogota Airbnb to make the (3 some) introduction. Before. The trip. It's a long ways off. She might need a new engine by then. Time will tell. It was good to be back in Colombia.

[Gabacho]

Why do you assume I care what they are doing when I am not around? Same as that old hag you are paying rent for is licking some other guy's ass when you are not around. And he does not have to pony up any rent money to get her to do it.I wonder how many guys asses she is licking besides just Elvis's. Elvis do you kiss her afterwards? Jajahahah🤣.

[Elvis 2008]

Why do you assume I care what they are doing when I am not around?.Yeah, there goes the no hookers line. So you are not paying your average looking hookers cash but putting them up in $900 a night hotels. Got it.


And he does not have to pony up any rent money to get her to do it.Sorry, it is not her rent but mine. If I stay 4 nights in Colombia, the apartment is the equivalent of what a hotel would cost, and it is rare that I do not.

[Flawless Zeal]

I am glad to see this board has elevated into other subjects besides Santa Fe. I was in Colombia the last 2 weeks and only went downtown for a Testosterone injection. Instead I met a couple of Lamborghini types that have traveled (probably 4 $) outside the country. Yep but I only rented that Lambo and will happily do it again on my next visit. We are planning to spend a few days (a week?) together in either the Medellin or La Calera area. But now (taking a hint from Elvis) I am going to ask her about bringing a friend or maybe staying in a Bogota Airbnb to make the (3 some) introduction. Before. The trip. It's a long ways off. She might need a new engine by then. Time will tell. It was good to be back in Colombia.How / where did you meet them? And what was the "BMW price" for the Lambo?

[Mr Enternational]

Sorry, it is not her rent but mine. If I stay 4 nights in Colombia, the apartment is the equivalent of what a hotel would cost, and it is rare that I do not.LOL. Is that what she told you? It is like both of ours, but you will pay for it and I will stay in it everyday. Who the hell else would go for that rotten deal except Elvis. I have heard of a sucker being born every minute, but there has to be only 1 Elvis being born each generation. Nobody could be that dumb.

Meanwhile chick that I mess with in Colombia said if I was to live with her I would have to pay MY SHARE. She lives with her daughter and her bills are 800 K per month. Divided by 3, she agreed my share would be 266 K. Maybe I should just pay the entire 800 K (or better yet hand over 2 million like Elvis does) and call it not her rent but mine if I am only there 4 days. Ceaseless entertainment with this guy.

[Nounce]

I can understand this POV. But the thing you said is proving my exact point about what I said about cars. The people who only spend 10 $ are the same ones that say a BMW and a ford are the same thing with the same result.

And I'm not here to insult guys who spend 10 $ to get girls. But it seems that those guys are always the ones insulting the guys who spend more.I am not sure the car analogy applies from personal experience. We know cars better in terms of performance and reliability than what we know about the women. The majority of my friends have swapped their European cars for Japanese brands. Almost all my friends who like outdoor sports have all swapped their European sports utility vehicles for other cars that cost less than half. I do know very few who keep these cars but they all have helpers and are very wealthy which is very rare and not what we are talking about here.

For argument's sake that I agree with the lambo analogy. I think what you talking about are buyers, right? and rarely would people use it as daily driver. Buyers also know the performance and not just by look. I will define a lambo level girl as someone having 1 million IG followers or just a model who can make enough money and do well independently. My question is how many members on here are doing that? Let's count Elvis as one and he is more a buyer too but even him, he has not gotten what he got at her prime in terms of earning and age. I think there are others but very rare.

I am not as black and white as Mr E. I think if you understand what really makes you happy and you can pay for it, go ahead. I also don't think Elvis is with a hooker. To me, he is in a form of relationship that is closer to marriage. There are several categories of girls on dating site. I think it can be broken down to some simple types based on the following, ones that stayed, one that being scoped up and never returned, and one that don't want to stay. The first one is more like a hooker and the last one do not want to be a hooker assuming all are attractive

[Elvis 2008]

LOL. Is that what she told you? It is like both of ours, but you will pay for it and I will stay in it everyday. Who the hell else would go for that rotten deal except Elvis. I have heard of a sucker being born every minute, but there has to be only 1 Elvis being born each generation. Nobody could be that dumb.LOL. You are paying for an apartment in Thailand you rarely use. You pay $900 a night for a hotel room for several nights once a month. And you are lecturing me on being smart with money?


Meanwhile chick that I mess with in Colombia said if I was to live with her I would have to pay MY SHARE. She lives with her daughter and her bills are 800 K per month. Divided by 3, she agreed my share would be 266 K. Maybe I should just pay the entire 800 K (or better yet hand over 2 million like Elvis does) and call it not her rent but mine if I am only there 4 days. Ceaseless entertainment with this guy.Why are you paying anything for a "chick you mess with"? You are paying thousands in hotel costs and bragging about saving $150 a month on rent?

You are so obsessed with not giving money to women even if it costs you 10 X more somewhere else, and you think you are so smart with money? You are a fucking idiot.

Here is a novel idea. Stop spending $900 a night on hotels. Spend $500 on the room and $200 to get a top shelf girl, and quit being such a jealous prick.

[Mr Enternational]

LOL. You are paying for an apartment in Thailand you rarely use. You pay $900 a night for a hotel room for several nights once a month. And you are lecturing me on being smart with money?

Why are you paying anything for a "chick you mess with"? You are paying thousands in hotel costs and bragging about saving $150 a month on rent?

You are so obsessed with not giving money to women even if it costs you 10 X more somewhere else, and you think you are so smart with money? You are a fucking idiot.

Here is a novel idea. Stop spending $900 a night on hotels. Spend $500 on the room and $200 to get a top shelf girl, and quit being such a jealous prick.There you go with that Elvis truth again. Always saying someone said something they did not. Either that or you can't read well. I never said I pay $900 per day several days each month for a hotel. I said I spent that for a water bungalow in Tahiti. I never said I was paying anything for a chick that I mess with.

But the truth does not matter to you when you can invent your own narrative like someone does not know what they said. Exact reason I like to write to chicks. Because they want to say you said something you didn't or say they didn't say something they did. It is all there in black and white. Still that does not seem to matter to them. They will swear by the lie anyway, the same as you are doing. I write something 5 minutes ago and already you are trying to say I said something I did not. Hell, at least wait 2 weeks like other broads do.

Spend your money how you wish. It is just a shame that you never learn your lesson. Chick in Peru called herself teaching you a lesson, but you are so hard headed that you run out to do the same shit again (playing Captain Save a Broad.).

The difference between you and me is that I spend money on myself and you spend money on women. The things I do, I plan to do myself anyway and I may invite someone along if I feel like it. The things you do, you do to impress women to try to be in their favor. See nobody is up in the apartment that I pay for when I am not here. That is because it is MY shit that I pay for for me. But I understand you not being able to get chicks without money. Use what you have to get what you want. And if money is all you have to offer then so be it.

[Sangnyc21]

Do you suggest I rent a $100-$200/ month shack in Aranjuez like you do to experience "real" Colombia? I prefer comfort and willing to pay for it. Shopping for a shower head is not something I want to do, as there are more fun things to do.

Also, the "plastic barrios" you are taking about are full of local Colombians, do you suggest they move to Aranjuez as well?Like Medellin should have a centro and poblado and fb thread.

Bogota Sante Fe and Chapinero.

This way we can just communicate among people who can relate. Because let's me honest some guys are so bitter and hateful with the things they say it's obvious they're bitter at life. If banging a streetwalker bareback is an accomplishment you're proud of you really ain't got much going on in life.

But others just want to do this for what it is. Leisure. And pick up useful info along the way to make it easier. Instead of having to be triggered by low lives.

[MiamiBoy1]

That's exactly what it is. He's paying for a fantasy. The fantasy that he thinks that since he is paying more money that he is somehow getting something better than what normal guys paying in the normal price range can get. He calls this top echelon. I bet at some point those same women he pays 400 k were charging 100 k or 50 k even. Probably when they were younger and had less mileage. Now they're like 25 and charge more than when they were 19 and guys like MB1 come along and pay it and think they are in some kind of special lane LOL.Barebacking some street skank for 100 k is what normal guys do? LOL. Almost in every post you demonstrate broke person mentality, failing to realize that are levels to everything in life and we all generally get what we pay for.

I don't do high mileage girls, unlike you and other street rats. Also, any decent girl would never sell herself short and would never work at a brothel or street. They know their worth, and would never let some low life bareback them for 100 k while on period.

Do you realize a girl doesn't have to suck dick for 50 k when she is young? Doesn't have to fuck multiple clients? You speak about it as it is some kind of career, where you start with low pay and then get a raise over time. A hot girl, who doesn't live in isolation, has social media presence and knows her worth, can easily find one wealthy guy and have a long term arrangement with him. No need to suck few dicks per day to make a living.

[Gabacho]

I have to chime in here. Everyone is free to make their own choices, but there is way too much boasting about "BBFS" and other forms of unprotected vaginal and anal sex with prostitutes in this forum, in my opinion. It's reckless, disgusting and it's not something to brag about.

The guys on here who talk about doing that are beyond saving, but I write this for the young and impressionable guys who do not already have STDs are just getting started in mongering. The risk / reward is not even close to worth it.

First, some guys claim that they can't enjoy sex or cum in a condom. I believed I was in that group until I was about 35. Then I realized that I had actually been wearing poorly fitting condoms the whole time. Then I discovered Trojan Magnums. I never thought of myself as a "magnum" guy, as I am not exceptionally well endowed by Western standards, but once I tried one on, it was like wearing a second skin. They fit tight around the base while allowing the foreskin to slide up and down during the act just like if I was bare. The kicker is, my dick doesn't get saturated by all the vaginal juices or rubbed raw by friction. This lets me last longer and enjoy sex more.

Now, I honestly prefer vaginal sex with a condom more than I do without one. I have two steady girlfriends who are not prostitutes and are not having unprotected sex with other people to my knowledge. And they absolutely insist that I have unprotected sex with them. So I have more unprotected sex than protected, and there is no question that I would prefer to use protection with them for my own comfort and pleasure. But I go without a condom for their benefit, and because I trust that they are safe.

So finding the perfect condom is key, and well worth the effort. All other condoms I've tried other than the Trojan Mags are worthless to me. Even the "bareskin" version of the Trojan Magnums is too flimsy to do the job. So I stock up. I keep a roll of four or five stuffed in my pocket at all times when I am roaming the streets and bars of Colombia. And all of the many times I have used them, I have never had one break or slip off.

The benefits are numerous. First and most importantly, I don't want to expose any of the women I have an actual real-life relationship with to diseases as a result of my promiscuity. That is much more important to me than even my own safety. But of course, it also helps to keep me safe, which is also important. Because I currently don't have any diseases and I would like to keep it that way.

But the kicker is, I am sacrificing absolutely zero pleasure by wrapping it up. In fact, I am enhancing the pleasure. And there is less wear and tear on my penis. When I am planning to have sex with three girls on three successive days, the last thing I want is to have a sore cock after the first round of action. A well-fitting condom ensures that my member emerges virtually unscathed after the first round and is ready for pain-free action the next day and the next -- or, as with my recent experience in Thailand, for two more rounds that night. (On the downside, following my advice in Thailand could lead to sexual overindulgence, so beware of that country!

So I challenge you younger guys to find a condom that fits you just right and makes sex feel as good or better than it does unprotected. It will take some time and effort, but I think you will come to see that it is well worth it. And you may even wonder how you have been living without it all this time. Never rely on the condoms that a girl or establishment carries. As far as I can tell, those are designed to make the experience unenjoyable for you so you finish faster. Find your armor of choice and wear it comfidently into battle.

Same goes for going down on prostitutes. Some guys like to do that. I am one of those guys. I always use a dental dam when I go down. You can buy a pack of six for about $10 on Amazon. They come in different flavors, but they all taste like a balloon to me. And that's fine. I am not a big fan of the taste of pussy, I do it to give the girl pleasure so that she is inclined to reciprocate and give better service, and also to get her lubed up naturally with no foreign substances. Some of you guys who just love the taste of pussy might want to take the risk, but it's not worth it for me. And believe me, the girl you are paying does not care whether you are using a dental dam or not. They are just happy your mouth is down there at all, and I think many of them actually prefer the dam because it is more sanitary and makes them less self-conscious about their taste / odor. So they will relax and enjoy it all the same.

I am not preaching morality here. I am just preaching common sense. I fully expect that I will take a lot of flak from the "raw connoisseurs" out there who throw caution to the wind. The point I am making is that if a man can find a good condom that he enjoys having sex in, there is no point to subjecting himself to the elements and the possibility of disease. Some of you may find that opinion to be very objectionable, and I expect to hear all about it.

With all that said, I draw the line at receiving oral sex. Some might call me a hypocrite. Some might agree. But when it comes to blowjobs, I absolutely insist that they be performed on me without protection. The reason is simple. I do not enjoy the nuances of a skillful and attentive blow job with a condom on anywhere close to how much I enjoy it with a condom off. And I feel like the risk of contracting disease from a blow job is much less than from vaginal or anal peneration.

If a blowjob feels just as good for you with a condom as it does without, more power to you. I fall on the other side of the spectrum, and therefore there is enough reward to justify the risk for me.

I am sure someone will parade out some statistics about how the dangers of getting a disease from "BBBJ" are virtually equal to "BBFS. " I hope that's not true, but I am not going to debate you. If there is some significant risk there, then I guess I will continue to "live life on the edge" like Garbacho here. But when it is reasonable for me to not take a risk that could jeopardize my health or the health or those I care about without sacrificing my enjoyment, I am going to avoid taking that risk.

I am sure that some guys are in a different circumstance that changes the calculus. Some have reached an age or condition in life that makes future health less of a concern, or they have reached a point where they intend to be perpetually single and don't intend to expose anyone they might one day care about to something they might catch. But that's not the place you younger guys should want to start out. I think many who are in that position would agree, whether they are willing to admit or not.

Even for guys who already have STDs, going bare exposes girls who might be clean, and that isn't cool for anyone. Especially for the clean guys who come later and want to take the risk and enjoy those same girls "raw. " So I don't view already being infected as a legitimate excuse to expose others. If anything it's a stronger reason to wear protection. Obviously it's up to the girl to allow it, but there should at least be fair disclosure. Just because you have a dick doesn't mean you have to be one.

So that's my message for the younger guys. Don't be misled by all this talk about how you're not really living life if you are not screwing hookers without protection. There are plenty of women out there you can have unprotected sex with who are not prostitutes. And if maximizing your pleasure with a prostitute is more important than your long term health, you might need to reevaluate your priorities in life.Funny how I post a report of detailed valuable information and then I get newbies crawling out of the work work to chastise and criticize me and call me 'garbage'.

Maybe you should have read the posting guidelines before you posted.

"No Safe Sex Complaints Forum Members wishing to criticize other Members for not following what they consider to be safe sex procedures may do so only in the Safe Sex Thread. Members may not comment upon, criticize or confront other members on this subject in the general discussion threads. Any such "safe sex complaints" posted in the general discussion threads will be deleted without comment. However.

No Safe Sex Bragging Members may not repeatedly post about or otherwise taunt other Members regarding their refusal to follow safe sex procedures. Specifically, references to having sex without a condom may be made only by incidental reference and shall not be the focus of any report. Such "safe sex taunting" reports will be deleted without comment.

If you want to criticize another member for not following what you consider to be safe sex practices, then send him a PM. ".

And maybe the admins should do their jobs.

-Gabacho.

[Gabacho]

Like Medellin should have a centro and poblado and fb thread.

Bogota Sante Fe and Chapinero.

This way we can just communicate among people who can relate. Because let's me honest some guys are so bitter and hateful with the things they say it's obvious they're bitter at life. If banging a streetwalker bareback is an accomplishment you're proud of you really ain't got much going on in life.

But others just want to do this for what it is. Leisure. And pick up useful info along the way to make it easier. Instead of having to be triggered by low lives.I agree there should be sub-threads so that way all the idiots who like to grossly overpay and then think they are better than the rest of us can stay in the Poblado thread and the real mongers with actual valuable information who don't attack and criticize others, can post in the Centro and Facebook threads.

[Mr Enternational]

I have to chime in here. Everyone is free to make their own choices, but there is way too much boasting about "BBFS" and other forms of unprotected vaginal and anal sex with prostitutes in this forum, in my opinion. It's reckless, disgusting and it's not something to brag about.How is it boasting or bragging? The man is simply reporting the experience and service that he had. If he had said the chick licked his ass and swallowed his cum would that also be bragging, reckless, and disgusting and in need of rebuke due to them being unsafe sex practices? There is a safe sex thread to preach to mongers all day long about how you believe it is best for them to use condoms and only derive their sexual pleasures how you see fit.

[Elvis 2008]

Spend your money how you wish. It is just a shame that you never learn your lesson. Chick in Peru called herself teaching you a lesson, but you are so hard headed that you run out to do the same shit again (playing Captain Save a Broad.).Hey, dummy, I am not the one jealous of you. I believe you are fucking the women whose pictures you post. I post that I went out with Ms. Cartagena and you called me a liar. I got stood up for one day and you were thrilled that I got stood up and could lecture that guys not pay in advance. I mention my GF will do anything for me sexually including rim jobs, and you went nuts and said you got them too. Hell, you Medellin morons are still bringing that rim job stuff up.

And now there is the latest stupid one. I am being Captain save a broad. What did my GF need saving from? I must have missed that part.

I don't think there is any lesson to be learned outside of your being a jealous pathetic loser who makes every fucking excuse as to not having better women. Looks are subjective. Pussy is pussy.



The difference between you and me is that I spend money on myself and you spend money on women.And the only women you are going to get with an attitude like that are the butt ugly ones.

[Turgid]

The problem is that many mongers on ISG state how much bare back sex they have but they do not report when they get an STD.

[Eszpresszo]

The problem is that many mongers on ISG state how much bare back sex they have but they do not report when they get an STD.But, you can't STDs if you never actually have sex. And that is the principal reason it never gets reported. After all, why let reality get in the way of a good fantasy?

[Gabacho]

The problem is that many mongers on ISG state how much bare back sex they have but they do not report when they get an STD.I have stated repeatedly when that I have had stds in the past and I have also posted the treatments to the stds as well.

Gonorrhea:

I000 MG ceftriaxone intrsmuscular injection and 1500 MG or azythromycin.

Chlamydia: 1500 MG azythromycin all at one or alternatively 100 g Doxycycline twice daily 12 hours apart for 7 to 10 days taken with food.

Syphilis: same treatment as chlamydia.

Herpes: Valacyclovir 1000 MG once daily in the morning taken as soon as you notice an outbreak beginning to start and taken for 5 days or can be continued to be taken for up to a year to keep outbreaks from ever occurring. Also there is currently an HSV vaccine in clinical trial testing at university of Pennsylvania it is a new MRNA vaccine I believe it might be made by moderna the same makers of the covid vaccines.

HPV aka genital warts: Gardasil 9 vaccine taken in 2 doses 6 months apart will protect you from the strains of HPV that cause genital warts and or cancer.

HIV 1 and 2 : besides herpes is the only other STD that isn't curable or currently have an approved vaccine (probably because there's no incentive for pharmaceutical companies to make a cure or vaccine while they are making windfall profits from selling expensive treats such Truvada and Descovy).

That being said transmission rates from an HIV possitve female to a non possitve mail thru unprotected vaginal sex remain to be negligibly low (less than 1!10th of 1%.

Furthermore the same drugs that are given to people who already have HIV can be taken by people who don't have HIV and it will shield them from getting infected even if they have have sex with someone who is positive. This is called PREP or pre exposure prophylaxis.

Drugs that can be used for prep include but are not limited to the following:

Truvada.

Descovy.

Cabenuva (only taken 2 o 3 times a year).

Biktarvy.

I believe a vaccine as well as a cure to HIV should have already been created, especially given the fact that they were able to create covid vaccines in such a small amount of time in comparison to the amount of time HIV has been around. I however think that because there is so much money to be made from selling the above mentioned medications, that these pharmaceutical companies don't want to make a vaccine because they would be hurting their own bottom lines.

Anyways there you have it, besides HIV all the other STDd are really no big deal they all have treatments or even vaccines available or in testing. As always it is your (and the girl's) choice to decide to use a condom or not but don't listen to everything these guys are saying trying to paint a picture that unprotected sex is the end of the world because it is not.

Also in Colombia many of these drugs can be purchased for very cheap and in developed countries such as US, Canada or EU countries they are often provided for free or reduced cost by the government.

[Sangnyc21]

I agree there should be sub-threads so that way all the idiots who like to grossly overpay and then think they are better than the rest of us can stay in the Poblado thread and the real mongers with actual valuable information who don't attack and criticize others, can post in the Centro and Facebook threads.Coming from a guy who roots for more guys to get drugged robbed or killed thinking the price of pussy will come down. And this is legal in this forum??

I understand people will argue and debate. But how is this person even allowed to contribute to anything in life.

This guy has repeatedly said on many posts he hopes more guys get drugged so they'll stop coming because he's bitter about guys who spend. I would advise admin to ban this guy but hey it's not my forum.

[MiamiBoy1]

I agree there should be sub-threads so that way all the idiots who like to grossly overpay and then think they are better than the rest of us can stay in the Poblado thread and the real mongers with actual valuable information who don't attack and criticize others, can post in the Centro and Facebook threads.You are just a jealous prick who can't afford nice things in life and hates everyone who spends more than you. BTW, I never "grossly overpay". I pay market price, which varies across different venues, both offline and online.

[Gabacho]

You are just a jealous prick who can't afford nice things in life and hates everyone who spends more than you. BTW, I never "grossly overpay". I pay market price, which varies across different venues, both offline and online.You're just proving my point about the attacks and the admins not doing their jobs. You're one of the guys that belongs in the Poblado thread.

[Gabacho]

Coming from a guy who roots for more guys to get drugged robbed or killed thinking the price of pussy will come down. And this is legal in this forum??

I understand people will argue and debate. But how is this person even allowed to contribute to anything in life.

This guy has repeatedly said on many posts he hopes more guys get drugged so they'll stop coming because he's bitter about guys who spend. I would advise admin to ban this guy but hey it's not my forum.I have never said I hope guys get drugged so they'll stop coming. Please quote my post where I said that "I hope" that happens to anyone.

And what or whom am I supposedly jealous of or bitter about?

I'm jealous of you paying more than me??

Okay sure whatever you say bud.

And actually you need to stop with all the personal attacks, if anyone should be banned it should be you!

[Gabacho]

Coming from a guy who roots for more guys to get drugged robbed or killed thinking the price of pussy will come down. And this is legal in this forum??

I understand people will argue and debate. But how is this person even allowed to contribute to anything in life.

This guy has repeatedly said on many posts he hopes more guys get drugged so they'll stop coming because he's bitter about guys who spend. I would advise admin to ban this guy but hey it's not my forum.You should just shut your mouth Sang, unlike you I actually contribute valuable information. Just recently I posted an updated report on Pereira (somewhere you've probably never been). And I just helped WT69 update his Armenia map as well.

So stop the personal attacks, stop lying and saying I said things I never said and most importantly stop being an idiot. If you want to pay girls in Cuba $80 usd when everyone knows they put out for a roll of toilet paper or tube of toothpaste, then that is your business. Same thing in Medellin you want to pay lleras girls 600 mil or seeking girls 1 millóand then that's your business. You seem to take offense for no reason. So why don't you just keep your stupid comments to yourself and stop trying to start flame wars with the real mongers on here such as myself and Mr E.

[Sangnyc21]

You're just proving my point about the attacks and the admins not doing their jobs. You're one of the guys that belongs in the Poblado thread.You have in the past called people "idiots" for spending their money the way they want to.

Also you have actually endorsed and hoped for guys to get drugged and killed so that they don't come back.

While I think admin may have banned those posts I'm sure there a few there.

If anyone in this forum should be banned it should be you.

You endorse people who have money and want to spend to get drugged and killed.

I never insult anyone or provoke anything and usually guys who are happy and content with themselves usually don't. I simply react. And it's a trend of guys insulting the guy who spends more.

Street girls are not my thing. Never cared for them. But I don't insult someone for doing whatever they want. But if I post an experience about Poblado or girls I've dated it's always guys like you that like to come along with a comment because you are the one that's bitter.

Hopefully the admin will ban you cause realistically it's people like you that cause a section like "stupid shit".

I'm here to read reports ask questions and give reports. That's it.

You're the one that goes into peoples reports or experiences and need to insult. So pathetic.

[Gabacho]

You have in the past called people "idiots" for spending their money the way they want to.

Also you have actually endorsed and hoped for guys to get drugged and killed so that they don't come back.

While I think admin may have banned those posts I'm sure there a few there.

If anyone in this forum should be banned it should be you.

You endorse people who have money and want to spend to get drugged and killed.

I never insult anyone or provoke anything and usually guys who are happy and content with themselves usually don't. I simply react. And it's a trend of guys insulting the guy who spends more.

Street girls are not my thing. Never cared for them. But I don't insult someone for doing whatever they want. But if I post an experience about Poblado or girls I've dated it's always guys like you that like to come along with a comment because you are the one that's bitter.

Hopefully the admin will ban you cause realistically it's people like you that cause a section like "stupid shit".

I'm here to read reports ask questions and give reports. That's it.

You're the one that goes into peoples reports or experiences and need to insult. So pathetic.Again I never said "I hope" that anyone gets druuged or killed. You're taking something I said out of context that's why you didn't go back and quote it because you know I didn't say that.

I believe what I said was that if enough guys get drugged and killed maybe the weekend warriors will stop coming down and flaunting their money and gold chains and acting stupid. That is what I believe I said but never did I say that I hoped anyone gets killed. So get your facts straight bud.

Also all the time you and MB1 find the need to attack me and you don't contribute anything of value either.

You are the one who should be banned.

And I actually talk personally to an admin named XXL so maybe I can get you banned if you don't stop with your personal attacks so maybe you should watch what you say to me.

[Sangnyc21]

You should just shut your mouth Sang, unlike you I actually contribute valuable information. Just recently I posted an updated report on Pereira (somewhere you've probably never been). And I just helped WT69 update his Armenia map as well.

So stop the personal attacks, stop lying and saying I said things I never said and most importantly stop being an idiot. If you want to pay girls in Cuba $80 usd when everyone knows they put out for a roll of toilet paper or tube of toothpaste, then that is your business. Same thing in Medellin you want to pay lleras girls 600 mil or seeking girls 1 milland then that's your business. You seem to take offense for no reason. So why don't you just keep your stupid comments to yourself and stop trying to start flame wars with the real mongers on here such as myself and Mr E.You're the one that came into my posts and decided to chime in on it.

My account has been on probation because I replied to you post where you said you hoped more guys would get drugged so then they'll stop coming. But the admin took down that post. And as well I said exactly how I felt about someone like this and my account got put on probation twice.

There is no need for me to ever lie about anything in a place like this.

[Gabacho]

I have stated repeatedly when that I have had stds in the past and I have also posted the treatments to the stds as well.

Gonorrhea:

I000 MG ceftriaxone intrsmuscular injection and 1500 MG or azythromycin.

Chlamydia: 1500 MG azythromycin all at one or alternatively 100 g Doxycycline twice daily 12 hours apart for 7 to 10 days taken with food.

Syphilis: same treatment as chlamydia.

Herpes: Valacyclovir 1000 MG once daily in the morning taken as soon as you notice an outbreak beginning to start and taken for 5 days or can be continued to be taken for up to a year to keep outbreaks from ever occurring. Also there is currently an HSV vaccine in clinical trial testing at university of Pennsylvania it is a new MRNA vaccine I believe it might be made by moderna the same makers of the covid vaccines.

HPV aka genital warts: Gardasil 9 vaccine taken in 2 doses 6 months apart will protect you from the strains of HPV that cause genital warts and or cancer.

HIV 1 and 2 : besides herpes is the only other STD that isn't curable or currently have an approved vaccine (probably because there's no incentive for pharmaceutical companies to make a cure or vaccine while they are making windfall profits from selling expensive treats such Truvada and Descovy).

That being said transmission rates from an HIV possitve female to a non possitve mail thru unprotected vaginal sex remain to be negligibly low (less than 1!10th of 1%.

Furthermore the same drugs that are given to people who already have HIV can be taken by people who don't have HIV and it will shield them from getting infected even if they have have sex with someone who is positive. This is called PREP or pre exposure prophylaxis.

Drugs that can be used for prep include but are not limited to the following:

Truvada.

Descovy.

Cabenuva (only taken 2 o 3 times a year).

Biktarvy.

I believe a vaccine as well as a cure to HIV should have already been created, especially given the fact that they were able to create covid vaccines in such a small amount of time in comparison to the amount of time HIV has been around. I however think that because there is so much money to be made from selling the above mentioned medications, that these pharmaceutical companies don't want to make a vaccine because they would be hurting their own bottom lines.

Anyways there you have it, besides HIV all the other STDd are really no big deal they all have treatments or even vaccines available or in testing. As always it is your (and the girl's) choice to decide to use a condom or not but don't listen to everything these guys are saying trying to paint a picture that unprotected sex is the end of the world because it is not.

Also in Colombia many of these drugs can be purchased for very cheap and in developed countries such as US, Canada or EU countries they are often provided for free or reduced cost by the government.Since we were on the topic of Stds, treatments and vaccination, I just came across some information that suggests that a vaccine originally intended to vaccinate against Meningitis-be had been found to offer protection against gonorrhea.

People who have received two doses of the Bexsero meningitis vaccine are atleast 33% less likely to contract gonorrea than those who have not been vaccinated with the Bexsero vaccine.

See attached photos.

While 33% is not a great number it is yet another tool to throw into your BBFS toolbox that can help you to lower your chances of getting Stds while still being able to enjoy BBFS.

[ReachJM]

Since we were on the topic of Stds, treatments and vaccination, I just came across some information that suggests that a vaccine originally intended to vaccinate against Meningitis-be had been found to offer protection against gonorrhea.

People who have received two doses of the Bexsero meningitis vaccine are atleast 33% less likely to contract gonorrea than those who have not been vaccinated with the Bexsero vaccine.

See attached photos.

While 33% is not a great number it is yet another tool to throw into your BBFS toolbox that can help you to lower your chances of getting Stds while still being able to enjoy BBFS.So is prep always good to take before every encounter? If not, are there any protective vaccines or shots that give extended safety like 3 months or so? (Like Hep B). Is prep always better to take?

Also any cost effective testing centers in Colombia for doing routine tests (including std related and general) as well as scans?

Also any good doctors for consultation for STD or general deed related precautions and what to be considered?

Thanks in advance.

[ReachJM]

Since we were on the topic of Stds, treatments and vaccination, I just came across some information that suggests that a vaccine originally intended to vaccinate against Meningitis-be had been found to offer protection against gonorrhea.

People who have received two doses of the Bexsero meningitis vaccine are atleast 33% less likely to contract gonorrea than those who have not been vaccinated with the Bexsero vaccine.

See attached photos.

While 33% is not a great number it is yet another tool to throw into your BBFS toolbox that can help you to lower your chances of getting Stds while still being able to enjoy BBFS.So is prep always good to take before every encounter? If not, are there any protective vaccines or shots that give extended safety like 3 months or so? (Like Hep B). Is prep always better to take?

Also any cost effective testing centers in Colombia for doing routine tests (including std related and general) as well as scans?

Also any good doctors for consultation for STD or general deed related precautions and what to be considered?

Thanks in advance.

[Gabacho]

So is prep always good to take before every encounter? If not, are there any protective vaccines or shots that give extended safety like 3 months or so? (Like Hep B). Is prep always better to take?

Also any cost effective testing centers in Colombia for doing routine tests (including std related and general) as well as scans?

Also any good doctors for consultation for STD or general deed related precautions and what to be considered?

Thanks in advance.I believe prep is taken each day whether you are having unprotected sex or not. This is to keep the amount of the drugs in your body at a constant level to provide the protection needed to stop an HIV infection if you were to be exposed.

I believe the drug cabenuva is an injection that is once every 3 or 4 months and provides protection against HIV.

I just recently received my first dose of bexsero vaccine which will help to ward off gonorrea (it's a 2 dose series for bexsero so in 4 to 8 weeks I get the second dosage). Supposedly I will be up 40% less likely to contract gonorrea from. Unprotected hetero sex. I will still take azythromycin and ceftriaxone obviously if I do have any gonorrhea infections, we will have to wait until my next trip (late 2024) to test out and see if I get gonorrea less often (on this last trip of 8 months I contracted it 3 times). It is important to mention that there are different serotypes to all these Stds and the vaccines may not provide protection against all serotypes. Nonetheless it's better to be vaccinated than to not be.

As far as Std testing in Colombia I know there is a clinic called ProFamilia I believe they provide low cost testing and treatment for Stds. There are also other clinics depending on where you are just Google it or do a forum search for "std testing. ".

Hope this info helps.

-Gabacho.

[Gabacho]

are there any protective vaccines or shots that give extended safety like 3 months or so? (Like Hep B). Is prep always better to take?

Thanks in advance.It looks like the specific drug you are looking for is called Apretude.

I've attached some screenshots with some info that I found.

Just get the shot atleast 7 days beforehand to be protected against HIV.

See photos below.

[JackTaggart]

So is prep always good to take before every encounter? If not, are there any protective vaccines or shots that give extended safety like 3 months or so? (Like Hep B). Is prep always better to take?

Also any cost effective testing centers in Colombia for doing routine tests (including std related and general) as well as scans?

Also any good doctors for consultation for STD or general deed related precautions and what to be considered?

Thanks in advance.You should consult with a doctor. Or simply google about prep. The forum should not be your source of information on preventing aids. Lots of info online. Your questions do not make any sense.

To be honest. You sound like someone that has not had sex or had any sexual contact. I don't say this to criticize you. But to encourage you to discuss things with a real medical professional. Maybe try telemedicine that is free with most health insurance.

[Flawless Zeal]

So is prep always good to take before every encounter? If not, are there any protective vaccines or shots that give extended safety like 3 months or so? (Like Hep B). Is prep always better to take?

Also any cost effective testing centers in Colombia for doing routine tests (including std related and general) as well as scans?

Also any good doctors for consultation for STD or general deed related precautions and what to be considered?

Thanks in advance.Like JackTaggart said, see your own doctor. Tell them you have many different sexual partners and you do not know the sexual history / behavior of all of them and that sometimes you travel to areas that have higher risk for HIV etc. (look up where that is, basically poorer parts of central / south america) and you want to make sure you have had all advisable vaccines for STDs and that you want to discuss taking prep. They have to test for HIV first and they have to do so regularly while you are on it (I believe if you already have HIV, it can make it much worse) and you have to have been taking it for 7 days for it to be effective.

[Gabacho]

Like JackTaggart said, see your own doctor. Tell them you have many different sexual partners and you do not know the sexual history / behavior of all of them and that sometimes you travel to areas that have higher risk for HIV etc. (look up where that is, basically poorer parts of central / south america) and you want to make sure you have had all advisable vaccines for STDs and that you want to discuss taking prep. They have to test for HIV first and they have to do so regularly while you are on it (I believe if you already have HIV, it can make it much worse) and you have to have been taking it for 7 days for it to be effective.I agree with Jack and Flawless. Eventhough I am answering your questions and telling about the availability of different vaccines and medications that may help to lower your risk of HIV and STDs you should still talk with your doctor or other medical professionals before taking any of these drugs or vaccines and the shit I post about is only a medical suggestion and should not be considered as medical advise. It is best to consult a medical professional.

-Gabacho.

[ReachJM]

Like JackTaggart said, see your own doctor. Tell them you have many different sexual partners and you do not know the sexual history / behavior of all of them and that sometimes you travel to areas that have higher risk for HIV etc. (look up where that is, basically poorer parts of central / south america) and you want to make sure you have had all advisable vaccines for STDs and that you want to discuss taking prep. They have to test for HIV first and they have to do so regularly while you are on it (I believe if you already have HIV, it can make it much worse) and you have to have been taking it for 7 days for it to be effective.Thanks. I will find out. I am not much into this hobby and all good from my end.

[ReachJM]

It looks like the specific drug you are looking for is called Apretude.

I've attached some screenshots with some info that I found.

Just get the shot atleast 7 days beforehand to be protected against HIV.

See photos below.Thanks for your details. I will look for the clinic when I am Bogota next time.