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11-11-21, 14:31
Guys just so you know I deleted the post (and those responding to it including one of my own) by someone who had one posted once making allegations of theft which were unsubstantiated despite requests for further information by me and Qaz which were not responded to. Facts within the original post also looked odd. Hence, to avoid the publication of potentially false allegations I have removed the posts.Good job dude. We def want all opinions but that looked super sketch. And you tried to substantiate and got ghosted. Right call. I am happy that you and others try to keep it open but straight up in here.
So a return to E92 last night and what a fabulous surprise. See below.
First to clear up the shooting incident. NONE of the people involved were ever in the club on the night in question. I asked several bar staff, Manager, girls and perhaps more independently a taxi driver from the rank outside. He told me that the taxi guys do see "meet ups" outside of the club occasionally when he believes drugs are exchanged. He didn't know that for certain but believed it.
On the night in question two cars pulled up outside. A heated exchange when the guys all got out and then boom. So in fact, nothing to do with the club, guys inside, nationalities.
On to the update and the surprise is the options. Possibly the best I have seen in several years. A lot of girls are back. So Elena (dark Ro v pretty) back. Beatrice, Ina, Veronica all still there. Alicia is back (blonde curly). The other older Beatrice, Brazilian and fit gym body has shorter hair. New blonde Alexandra from Scandalos. Pretty (Ro). Diana, 22, really slim, pretty, Ro, arrived 6 days ago from Sala Divas. Fabulous figure. Then the new Marissa. Wow. Looks just like Sophia Loren. Black hair, very attractive facially, great body with natural see cups and will be trying her for sure in the coming days. Bianca back. Looked amazing in a cut away dress. Ina as stunning as ever. Kelly (blonde Brazilian) lost some weight and looked very elegant. One new very dark girl I didn't speak to stunning body will be meeting her and trying her.
Genuinely had too much choice. Only Olimpia missing from a fabulous line up. Plenty of punters, good atmosphere. Plastic dividers removed from roulette wheel (felt like normal again).
Ended up returning to my favourite Veronica. But am planning several trips to try out the many new options.
Many of the girls heading home early December for Christmas.
So a return to E92 last night and what a fabulous surprise. See below.
First to clear up the shooting incident. NONE of the people involved were ever in the club on the night in question. I asked several bar staff, Manager, girls and perhaps more independently a taxi driver from the rank outside. He told me that the taxi guys do see "meet ups" outside of the club occasionally when he believes drugs are exchanged. He didn't know that for certain but believed it.
On the night in question two cars pulled up outside. A heated exchange when the guys all got out and then boom. So in fact, nothing to do with the club, guys inside, nationalities.
On to the update and the surprise is the options. Possibly the best I have seen in several years. A lot of girls are back. So Elena (dark Ro v pretty) back. Beatrice, Ina, Veronica all still there. Alicia is back (blonde curly). The other older Beatrice, Brazilian and fit gym body has shorter hair. New blonde Alexandra from Scandalos. Pretty (Ro). Diana, 22, really slim, pretty, Ro, arrived 6 days ago from Sala Divas. Fabulous figure. Then the new Marissa. Wow. Looks just like Sophia Loren. Black hair, very attractive facially, great body with natural see cups and will be trying her for sure in the coming days. Bianca back. Looked amazing in a cut away dress. Ina as stunning as ever. Kelly (blonde Brazilian) lost some weight and looked very elegant. One new very dark girl I didn't speak to stunning body will be meeting her and trying her.
Genuinely had too much choice. Only Olimpia missing from a fabulous line up. Plenty of punters, good atmosphere. Plastic dividers removed from roulette wheel (felt like normal again).
Ended up returning to my favourite Veronica. But am planning several trips to try out the many new options.
Many of the girls heading home early December for Christmas.Thanks for report.
How is veronica? How is her service?
I should def try sophia loren one. Did you talk to her? What is the price? Gone up or same?
Thanks for report.
How is veronica? How is her service?
I should def try sophia loren one. Did you talk to her? What is the price? Gone up or same?Veronica is fabulous. Takes a lot for me to turn down Ina regularly. But Veronica has amazing natural see / dee cups, and service is outstanding.
Marissa / Sophia Loren is quite easily 9/10 facially. One of the best looking girls I've seen in the various clubs (not just in Spain) for some time. Watch this space!
All prices are the same as previously - 150/ hour. I don't know how much 30 minutes is as I never do 30 min rooms. I think it was 80? But towels etc 10 e as before.
Not two days since reporting on the fabulous line up at E92 I returned. Very much in my mind was the Sophia Loren lookalike. Marissa. Dark hair, good body, very pretty. Arrived later than normal (10.30) and zoned in on her. She wore exactly the same clothes as two nights ago (not a great sign! Still looked stunning. But the pre room interview was a disaster. It would have been quicker to ask what she did do! No BBBJ, no kisses (not even my bag massively but asked and firmly told she never does this with anyone). It went on. To her credit she was honest. Better that than get to the room and the promises disappear. But it was all a bit of a turn off and when she asked if I was ready to go to the room I declined. I think she is pretty enough that she knows she will get more than enough guys want to just fuck her because of the optifuk level. So she can dictate. Despite having bought her a drink, I decided it wasn't worth the 150 and I decided to cut my losses and seek one of the many other options. New brunette Brazilian looked very hot.
The LU was almost the same as two nights ago. Still plenty of choices. Both Beatrices looked great. Veronica always looks good. Both Monika's looked good. Elena wasn't in the best mood so I skipped. Finally got to meet the dark haired girl and realised she is Stephany. Friend of my all time fav at E92 Julia. Very sexy body and will try her but could not resist Diana - 22 yr old Ro brunette. Wearing a leather dress an fishnets. Very slim. Incredible ass. Had to. Great time, good service, no list of don'ts. The girl loves to orgasm! Had a really good time. Had planned time this trip to try Sala Divas again, Glass Palace and one trip to Scandalos. Might do the latter but the options at E92 are so good it is impossible to ignore them. Hence, likely to return again in the next few days for Beatrice, Stephany or Elena / Ina / Alicia / Veronica // Monika (the one with big boobs). Shame about Marissa / Sophia Loren. But you get these ups and downs in this game.
Hi PFI you lucky bugger!
Is that the general vibe you get? Most girls going home for Christmas?
I return Christmas Eve for two weeks, I've had my Christmas on the Costa for the last eight years and frankly I wouldn't countenance anything other. I've always lined up regulars in advance. Last time I visited E92/ Scandalo over Christmas / New Year was a lot of years ago and I found them relatively quite.
I'm wondering if a trip to E92 will be worthwhile over the festive break?
Not two days since reporting on the fabulous line up at E92 I returned. Very much in my mind was the Sophia Loren lookalike. Marissa. Dark hair, good body, very pretty. Arrived later than normal (10.30) and zoned in on her. She wore exactly the same clothes as two nights ago (not a great sign! Still looked stunning. But the pre room interview was a disaster. It would have been quicker to ask what she did do! No BBBJ, no kisses (not even my bag massively but asked and firmly told she never does this with anyone). It went on. To her credit she was honest. Better that than get to the room and the promises disappear. But it was all a bit of a turn off and when she asked if I was ready to go to the room I declined. I think she is pretty enough that she knows she will get more than enough guys want to just fuck her because of the optifuk level. So she can dictate. Despite having bought her a drink, I decided it wasn't worth the 150 and I decided to cut my losses and seek one of the many other options. New brunette Brazilian looked very hot.
The LU was almost the same as two nights ago. Still plenty of choices. Both Beatrices looked great. Veronica always looks good. Both Monika's looked good. Elena wasn't in the best mood so I skipped. Finally got to meet the dark haired girl and realised she is Stephany. Friend of my all time fav at E92 Julia. Very sexy body and will try her but could not resist Diana - 22 yr old Ro brunette. Wearing a leather dress an fishnets. Very slim. Incredible ass. Had to. Great time, good service, no list of don'ts. The girl loves to orgasm! Had a really good time. Had planned time this trip to try Sala Divas again, Glass Palace and one trip to Scandalos. Might do the latter but the options at E92 are so good it is impossible to ignore them. Hence, likely to return again in the next few days for Beatrice, Stephany or Elena / Ina / Alicia / Veronica // Monika (the one with big boobs). Shame about Marissa / Sophia Loren. But you get these ups and downs in this game.Well, she does not want to do anything then. As you say many are willing to just pay her for very little service. Stephany is really nice, please report back.
Hi PFI you lucky bugger!
Is that the general vibe you get? Most girls going home for Christmas?
I return Christmas Eve for two weeks, I've had my Christmas on the Costa for the last eight years and frankly I wouldn't countenance anything other. I've always lined up regulars in advance. Last time I visited E92/ Scandalo over Christmas / New Year was a lot of years ago and I found them relatively quite.
I'm wondering if a trip to E92 will be worthwhile over the festive break?Hard to know. Yes that is the message I'm hearing. Quite a few of them going home for Christmas this year and some fears about the rising rates of covid sweeping across the EU. Always worth popping in to see I suppose. I'm hear for another 2 weeks then that's it for CDS for me in 2021 and will head back to warmer climes and lower covid risk in Asia. What an odd sentence that was to write! But I have a few punts before then to enjoy!
Not two days since reporting on the fabulous line up at E92 I returned. Very much in my mind was the Sophia Loren lookalike. Marissa. Dark hair, good body, very pretty. Arrived later than normal (10.30) and zoned in on her. She wore exactly the same clothes as two nights ago (not a great sign! Still looked stunning. But the pre room interview was a disaster. It would have been quicker to ask what she did do! No BBBJ, no kisses (not even my bag massively but asked and firmly told she never does this with anyone). It went on. To her credit she was honest. Better that than get to the room and the promises disappear. But it was all a bit of a turn off and when she asked if I was ready to go to the room I declined. I think she is pretty enough that she knows she will get more than enough guys want to just fuck her because of the optifuk level. So she can dictate. Despite having bought her a drink, I decided it wasn't worth the 150 and I decided to cut my losses and seek one of the many other options. New brunette Brazilian looked very hot.
The LU was almost the same as two nights ago. Still plenty of choices. Both Beatrices looked great. Veronica always looks good. Both Monika's looked good. Elena wasn't in the best mood so I skipped. Finally got to meet the dark haired girl and realised she is Stephany. Friend of my all time fav at E92 Julia. Very sexy body and will try her but could not resist Diana - 22 yr old Ro brunette. Wearing a leather dress an fishnets. Very slim. Incredible ass. Had to..Sophia Loren is clever, not doing much, she doesn't need to shower nor change clothes for 2 days, ecological, saving water. Is French kissing quite usual? When I can't enjoy without. When I finished now my Summer sport tour, if not good snow for Christmas, I may have a run to take sun in Winter, when I finished my Summer sport in cold and wind.
Hard to know. Yes that is the message I'm hearing. Quite a few of them going home for Christmas this year and some fears about the rising rates of covid sweeping across the EU. Always worth popping in to see I suppose. I'm hear for another 2 weeks then that's it for CDS for me in 2021 and will head back to warmer climes and lower covid risk in Asia. What an odd sentence that was to write! But I have a few punts before then to enjoy!Do you have stephanys number? Could you please aske her whether she leaves the club during the Christmas or not? Thanks.
Hard to know. Yes that is the message I'm hearing. Quite a few of them going home for Christmas this year and some fears about the rising rates of covid sweeping across the EU. Always worth popping in to see I suppose. I'm hear for another 2 weeks then that's it for CDS for me in 2021 and will head back to warmer climes and lower covid risk in Asia. What an odd sentence that was to write! But I have a few punts before then to enjoy!Cheers PFI.
I've got a some arrangements with regulars. I must check out that place In Malaga the other chap reported on a few weeks ago in Malaga central in the main forum.
I'll try E92 and see.
Weirdly and bizarrely I'm still in touch with the one who was very ready to kill me to death a few weeks ago. I love the bizarre!
It makes life interesting.
Enjoy the rest of your stay, I am sure you will!
No matter how much I tell myself I'm not going to indulge the stupidity of some of the pricing policies at this club, I cannot resist an occasional visit. Perhaps it is nostalgia. For a long time I preferred Scandalos to E92 - when the girls at E92 were very sharky. So stupidly, I told myself “I’ll just go and see what its like / whose working”. Foolish of course as once in the den it is inevitable that some beauty will take the eye.
And so to my latest visit. Arrived 10.30 pm. No Ibrahim on the door tonight. The clientele of the club has not changed much. It is still largely very rich young Moroccan guys. They populate the bar buying expensive bottles of champagne with the fireworks coming out of the top and the girls love it. It is easy to see why girls like working at this club given the propensity for guys to flash the cash. One guy last night, maybe 45 years old, bought two bottles of champagne for 5 girls. I didn't recognise any of them other than the lovely thin body of India. Off he goes to the room with all of them. And all 5 girls were back in the bar inside 15/20 minutes. I asked India and she said he took them all for one hour. 250 each, but popped after 5 minutes of fucking the first girl and despite trying couldn't get a boner back and said he had a great time and left. Now that's one way to get through circa e2000!
The number of girls with very fat asses has increased. 99% of the girls are now South American's. One European, Alexsandra, incredibly tall dark Bulgarian. Nice intelligent girl but still big on the ass so I declined though I got the vibe she would be good in the room.
Was tempted by Marianna. Friend of Melissa (Brazilian who has gone back to Vilamoura) but then got talking to two sisters. Perla and Gabriella. Both from Dom Republic and each had a tattoo of the other girls name on her arm in identical style/font! They looked alike but were not twins. Decided I had to have the party and took them both for 2 hours after they were amenable to some fairly hard negotiation. A threesome for 2 hours in E92 costs 500+ depending on which girls. Here, for two hours they started at 1000 (250 each for 2 hours) but it was quiet, not a lot of punters and they succumbed to 720 for the two for two hours. Still a lot of cash but decided I would do it once this trip and the fun of having sisters was an attraction. Not my first time but I recalled a lot of fun first time out with sisters. Of course it is entirely possible that they are not sisters at all but just say so for the novelty factor, but the identical writing of the tattoos gave some hint it might be correct. I told every girl I spoke to that I resolutely would not pay the 30 euros for the room / towels so they should factor into any price they asked for from me that they were paying the room fee not me. Not one of them objected. I think the girls have started to accept that punters, other than the odd guy who just won’t care, don't like paying this. Most have increased their price from 220 to 250 to cover it. I asked maybe 6 girls (before the sisters) if they would agree 200 for an hour (but they pay the towels etc). Three said yes, (meaning effectively they would be getting 170/ hour/ acceptable) but three stayed firm on 250 if they were paying for the towels.
Despite being Latinas the sisters / ladies had good bodies, slim, both natural boobs. One bee one see cups. Great fun in the room. Great vibe, a lot of playful stuff and excellent service.
So an expensive but very satisfactory night. No Ana (Marilyn Monroe) tonight (sad) so might have to head back one time before I leave CDS to hook up with her again. Overall the standard of the line up is NOT as high as in E92 at the moment unless you love those enormous wobbling asses - and there is clearly a big market for that because there are so many of them walking around Scandalos now.
Jeez them crazy Moroccan's that's serious coin!
What do you reckon PFI? They must have very well payed jobs?
I've got a rough idea what I've spent on this hobby over the last few years, and it's a lot! But nothing compared with a life without the sheer excitement and experience. What a dull life that would be?
You have to consider these Moroccan chaps are doing that on very regular basis. Who says crime doesn't pay?
I really get why you go there, no shame whatsoever, I've not been since 2017, I just can't be arsed with that price structure and the taxi fairs on top. I'm nearer E 92 and it's a no. Brainer.
I myself would like to do Scandalo again for the nostalgia. But if it's flooded with fat flabby arses. I'll give it a miss.
As always, good report!
No matter how much I tell myself I'm not going to indulge the stupidity of some of the pricing policies at this club, I cannot resist an occasional visit. Perhaps it is nostalgia. For a long time I preferred Scandalos to E92 - when the girls at E92 were very sharky. So stupidly, I told myself Ill just go and see what its like / whose working. Foolish of course as once in the den it is inevitable that some beauty will take the eye.
And so to my latest visit. Arrived 10.30 pm. No Ibrahim on the door tonight. The clientele of the club has not changed much. It is still largely very rich young Moroccan guys. They populate the bar buying expensive bottles of champagne with the fireworks coming out of the top and the girls love it. It is easy to see why girls like working at this club given the propensity for guys to flash the cash. One guy last night, maybe 45 years old, bought two bottles of champagne for 5 girls. I didn't recognise any of them other than the lovely thin body of India. Off he goes to the room with all of them. And all 5 girls were back in the bar inside 15/20 minutes. I asked India and she said he took them all for one hour. 250 each, but popped after 5 minutes of fucking the first girl and despite trying couldn't get a boner back and said he had a great time and left. Now that's one way to get through circa e2000!
The number of girls with very fat asses has increased. 99% of the girls are now South American's. One European, Alexsandra, incredibly tall dark Bulgarian. Nice intelligent girl but still big on the ass so I declined though I got the vibe she would be good in the room.
Was tempted by Marianna. Friend of Melissa (Brazilian who has gone back to Vilamoura) but then got talking to two sisters. Perla and Gabriella. Both from Dom Republic and each had a tattoo of the other girls name on her arm in identical style/font! They looked alike but were not twins. Decided I had to have the party and took them both for 2 hours after they were amenable to some fairly hard negotiation. A threesome for 2 hours in E92 costs 500+ depending on which girls. Here, for two hours they started at 1000 (250 each for 2 hours) but it was quiet, not a lot of punters and they succumbed to 720 for the two for two hours. Still a lot of cash but decided I would do it once this trip and the fun of having sisters was an attraction. Not my first time but I recalled a lot of fun first time out with sisters. Of course it is entirely possible that they are not sisters at all but just say so for the novelty factor, but the identical writing of the tattoos gave some hint it might be correct. I told every girl I spoke to that I resolutely would not pay the 30 euros for the room / towels so they should factor into any price they asked for from me that they were paying the room fee not me. Not one of them objected. I think the girls have started to accept that punters, other than the odd guy who just wont care, don't like paying this. Most have increased their price from 220 to 250 to cover it. I asked maybe 6 girls (before the sisters) if they would agree 200 for an hour (but they pay the towels etc). Three said yes, (meaning effectively they would be getting 170/ hour/ acceptable) but three stayed firm on 250 if they were paying for the towels.
Despite being Latinas the sisters / ladies had good bodies, slim, both natural boobs. One bee one see cups. Great fun in the room. Great vibe, a lot of playful stuff and excellent service.
So an expensive but very satisfactory night. No Ana (Marilyn Monroe) tonight (sad) so might have to head back one time before I leave CDS to hook up with her again. Overall the standard of the line up is NOT as high as in E92 at the moment unless you love those enormous wobbling asses - and there is clearly a big market for that because there are so many of them walking around Scandalos now.Thats the problem, once you go in, it is really hard to get out without doing a trip upstairs. But if the quality is good and service is good too then I think its fine.
Jeez them crazy Moroccan's that's serious coin!
What do you reckon PFI? They must have very well payed jobs?
I've got a rough idea what I've spent on this hobby over the last few years, and it's a lot! But nothing compared with a life without the sheer excitement and experience. What a dull life that would be?
You have to consider these Moroccan chaps are doing that on very regular basis. Who says crime doesn't pay?
I really get why you go there, no shame whatsoever, I've not been since 2017, I just can't be arsed with that price structure and the taxi fairs on top. I'm nearer E 92 and it's a no. Brainer.
I myself would like to do Scandalo again for the nostalgia. But if it's flooded with fat flabby arses. I'll give it a miss.
As always, good report!Thanks. There is a big part of me that does not want to support the club because of the crazy prices, but then the truth of it is that there are guys spending a fortune in there (I was one of them last night! From that perspective you can see that the owners must think they have nothing to lose. I would say it will be the exception rather than the rule to go when the options at 92 are currently very good and for a lot less. That said, despite having a great night, I have this Marianna girl in my head and just know I'll have to return to session with her before I leave the CDS this trip.
Trust me. The fat ass brigade is in full force in Scandalous and it's a bit of a task finding someone sexy, good looking who does not have it. What's incredible is that several of them apparently have had butt implants to create this look. I suppose it is to each his own but for me it is truly off-putting.
That clientele? Hey who knows, we can jump to conclusions but imagine if in fact it is hard-earned? I just don't see how really young guys have so much cash though. I did find the older rich guy (think he might have been french) very funny. He seemed to get off on the girls cheering when another firework / bottle of bubbly arrived. But to do all that and last 15 minutes in the room. What a disaster. And I didn't see the point in taking 5 girls. On two occasions in E92, when I've had a wine too many but been far from drunk, I've been persuaded to take 3 girls. Both times were a car crash. It's possible to keep two women entertained (at a push) but more than that is just impossible. India told me he did not get to fuck more than the first girl. Embarrassing as well as costly. But it was obvious the money was irrelevant to him. Nice position to be in. In contrast, I got up this morning thinking of how long and how many girls / rooms I could have had in E92 for the same cash I spent. I can say without question I won't be having another threesome in Scandalos!
Like you, I've spent too much on this, but you cannot take it with you and as you say, these experiences make the hard work all worthwhile. Enjoy your break over here. Gloriously sunny days but really quite cold at night.
Thanks. There is a big part of me that does not want to support the club because of the crazy prices, but then the truth of it is that there are guys spending a fortune in there (I was one of them last night! From that perspective you can see that the owners must think they have nothing to lose. I would say it will be the exception rather than the rule to go when the options at 92 are currently very good and for a lot less. That said, despite having a great night, I have this Marianna girl in my head and just know I'll have to return to session with her before I leave the CDS this trip.So, the next time something scandalous happens at "Club Scandalous" that pisses you off? Don't come complaining to us about it then bud! OK? LOLOLOL!
So, the next time something scandalous happens at "Club Scandalous" that pisses you off? Don't come complaining to us about it then bud! OK? LOLOLOL!Perfectly fair! Guilty as charged! Self inflicted. Cannot resist!
So decided to hit the Estepona scene tonight. Always think the town is beautiful when I visit. Fabulous meal then decided to check out a few venues. First up, the never before visited Black Rose in Diana Park. Total waste of time. Two very ugly older women. Nice looking interior in the bar but on the evidence of the quality or lack of it, definitely a pass.
Next Bel Air Club. Tiny as ever, four girls, three awful. The other was actually very pretty and I may return but didn't speak to her as made a quick exit as wanted to get to Glass Palace.
Drove past Bom Bom (see below) and hit GP. 11 girls on display. Surprisingly, for 11 pm on a Wednesday 7 punters. 10 e in but gets a drink ticket. 9 of the girls very average to poor. One Romanian, blonde Alexsandra past her prime. One absolute cutie, Dom Rep. Didn't get name (unlike me) more black than white but what a body. Quite how I resisted I don't know but I had fixed in my mind to session with Michaela at Bom Bom (formerly Robertinos). I shall 100% return for this little hottie with afro hair at GP. BTW if you want to stay in the area (great for restaurants / beach, GP is still offering the "hotel" option of 60 e for the room which is incredibly cheap for a superb room literally across the road from the Kempinski which will set you back at lease 4 times that amount.
Got to Bom Bom. It really flatters to deceive, in that the outside of the club gives the impression that it is big. 4 girls working. 3 terrible and Michaela. She says she is 35 but she is easily 40. Blonde Romanian and a little fire cracker. Smokes far too much. Chain smokes and it affects the breath. Didn't even think of DFK which isn't really for me anyway but awkward that she tried and I was the one having to say I don't! Her attitude and service are faultless. Lovely girl. Speaks only Romanian and Spanish and almost zero English. If your Spanish is not at least conversational don't bother. Happily mine is. One hour only after buying her a drink. Bit annoying that I paid then she asks for another which she says will cost 30 e I ask if the next one is 20 and soon I'll own the bottle or the bar will pay me. She didn't get it. Even in Spanish!
Room was a real mix. On the upside she takes a fabulous pounding, the BBBJ is really quite good but on the downside she has no sense of timing. Everything is 400 miles an hour. Constant requests for "tranquillo" or "despacio" met with raucous laughter. This girl knows how to enjoy herself. Had three Os in an hour, (DATY, fingers and fuck) and the bed sheet was truly soaked. She also wants to please. She is blonde, pretty though showing her age. Price 150/ hour. Same as in E92 where the options and youth are abundant.
Would I repeat? No. Whatever way you look at this, E92 represents great value. Hey ho. Dinner / drinks / room with Veronica tomorrow. Plan to hit Fontana and Cleofas at the weekend. Somehow need to get back to GP for the little hottie (which I regret not taking tonight) and to Scandalos for Marianna. Running out of days.
Hey Qaz- you didn't want to miss Stephany this time. You 100% should make sure you don't.
Back to E92 tonight after an enforced night off due to business which prevented the scheduled dinner with Veronica.
She was there tonight but we agreed to leave our finale to next week.
Elena, Monika (big boobs), Alicia, Alexandra, all looked good. Brazilian Andreas has a stunning figure. Diana (see previous E92 post) looked hot in black. But the stand out was Stephany. Black leather pants and black top. Drink, to the room. Did 2 hours. Could have done 5. Just the most delightful company- bright, funny, and what a body. Only A cups but the ass, flat gym tummy, legs. It's all there and looks great. Long black natural hair no extensions and not one of those to tie it up due to oil.
She is adventurous and will try almost anything. Didn't do anal (not my thing) but everything else on the menu. She had x2 O's and was never going to fake them. Not that type. Took a while. Her BBBJ is the best in the club by far. If you like (as I do) the very slow, teasing, sloppy, deep variety with no sharp teeth / edges. It was sublime. Takes a full pounding. No complaints though found it a little tough and wanted to push back a tiny bit.
A totally fabulous experience. It is my first of many sessions with this lovely girl. Great in the bar, would look incredible in the street, great in the room. Great company. The glowing tribute is well deserved.
Hey Qaz- you didn't want to miss Stephany this time. You 100% should make sure you don't.
Back to E92 tonight after an enforced night off due to business which prevented the scheduled dinner with Veronica.
She was there tonight but we agreed to leave our finale to next week.
Elena, Monika (big boobs), Alicia, Alexandra, all looked good. Brazilian Andreas has a stunning figure. Diana (see previous E92 post) looked hot in black. But the stand out was Stephany. Black leather pants and black top. Drink, to the room. Did 2 hours. Could have done 5. Just the most delightful company- bright, funny, and what a body. Only A cups but the ass, flat gym tummy, legs. It's all there and looks great. Long black natural hair no extensions and not one of those to tie it up due to oil.
She is adventurous and will try almost anything. Didn't do anal (not my thing) but everything else on the menu. She had x2 O's and was never going to fake them. Not that type. Took a while. Her BBBJ is the best in the club by far. If you like (as I do) the very slow, teasing, sloppy, deep variety with no sharp teeth / edges. It was sublime. Takes a full pounding. No complaints though found it a little tough and wanted to push back a tiny bit.
A totally fabulous experience. It is my first of many sessions with this lovely girl. Great in the bar, would look incredible in the street, great in the room. Great company. The glowing tribute is well deserved.Glad to hear that. It is awesome.
When is her day off? And what time does she come down to the bar? Just don't want to go there and not find her and be forced to go with somebody else.
Thnaks.
Glad to hear that. It is awesome.
When is her day off? And what time does she come down to the bar? Just don't want to go there and not find her and be forced to go with somebody else.
Thnaks.No idea but I suggest you just phone the club before you want to go and ask if she is (a) working that day (b) what time she will be down.
She is worth the visit. Excellent.
No idea but I suggest you just phone the club before you want to go and ask if she is (a) working that day (b) what time she will be down.
She is worth the visit. Excellent.She was really nice, IMHO even better than julia, and was even trying much more to go upstairs but since julia was recommended, I decided not to risk. Is DFK also possible? And also does she have lots of tattoos?
could you plz ask julia (as they are very good friend) if she is in estark on sunday?
She was really nice, IMHO even better than julia, and was even trying much more to go upstairs but since julia was recommended, I decided not to risk. Is DFK also possible? And also does she have lots of tattoos?
could you plz ask julia (as they are very good friend) if she is in estark on sunday?I don't know about DFK. I didn't try to do it with her. She does have a lot of tattoos so if you don't like them you'll be disappointed. In addition to the ones on her arms which are visible in the club she has a large tattoo on her tummy. She had an accident when young with hot water and it is still possible to see a tiny area where her skin stretched. Trust me, none of this detracts from her overall look. She looks great in clothes and is very sexy naked. I'm sure you would enjoy time with her.
Stephany sent Julia a picture of us together in the club! But Julia is in Poland now and not on her normal phone.
I know a lot of girls take Sunday off. Don't know about Stephany. But as I say. Just ring before you leave. They will tell you if she is working.
I don't know about DFK. I didn't try to do it with her. She does have a lot of tattoos so if you don't like them you'll be disappointed. In addition to the ones on her arms which are visible in the club she has a large tattoo on her tummy. She had an accident when young with hot water and it is still possible to see a tiny area where her skin stretched. Trust me, none of this detracts from her overall look. She looks great in clothes and is very sexy naked. I'm sure you would enjoy time with her.
Stephany sent Julia a picture of us together in the club! But Julia is in Poland now and not on her normal phone.
I know a lot of girls take Sunday off. Don't know about Stephany. But as I say. Just ring before you leave. They will tell you if she is working.Thanks for the info. Actually I like sexy tattoos, that's why I asked. You mean most of the girls do not work sundays? So not worth going?. Also one more question I have never tried in estark so wanted to ask you first. Is CIM possible in estark, or all of them will refuse? You said everythings on the menu with stephany, did you try this with her or you meant other things?
Thanks for the info. Actually I like sexy tattoos, that's why I asked. You mean most of the girls do not work sundays? So not worth going?. Also one more question I have never tried in estark so wanted to ask you first. Is CIM possible in estark, or all of them will refuse? You said everythings on the menu with stephany, did you try this with her or you meant other things?It's as simple as that.
Questions and planning is futile.
That's the excitement.
Thanks for the info. Actually I like sexy tattoos, that's why I asked. You mean most of the girls do not work sundays? So not worth going?. Also one more question I have never tried in estark so wanted to ask you first. Is CIM possible in estark, or all of them will refuse? You said everythings on the menu with stephany, did you try this with her or you meant other things?So you like tattoos. She is perfect for you. Here is the good news. I was in the club tonight. She was there. I spoke with her. She will be working tomorrow (Sunday), and gets to the bar / casino at 5. 30 to 6 pm.
I don't do CIM so I don't know. Somehow I suspect she would say no. But I could be wrong. Definitely not with a guy she never went to a room with. She is VERY particular about cleanliness. Which is good. So go smelling beautiful! She has nice long new nails.
I didn't repeat with her tonight. Not because I didn't want to but because she met two friends who didn't take her to the room but they bought her a lot of drinks. But I spoke with her and she hopes to see you there tomorrow.
My night was mixed. Decided to get there early with a plan to do one hour Stephanie then one hour Ina and finish with a final hour of Veronica plus either Alicia or Elena. First two hours. Pretty dull. Casino was my best catch! Ended up abandoning the plan and doing 2. 5 hours with Ina and Veronica and had a fabulous time. Both are just so so good. For different reasons.
For a Saturday the club was really quite.
Is CIM possible in estark, or all of them will refuse? It's hard to get. Eastern Europeans are more likely to say yes than the Latinas. This summer I asked 5 girls (all Latinas) and all but one said no. But the one who said yes turned out to be a scam. One of the girls even started to lecture me on how dangerous it is for a girl to have a mans semen in her mouth. However they all said it was ok to cum on their bodies.
If you want CIM, try eastern Europeans as you will have a higher success rate.
It's hard to get. Eastern Europeans are more likely to say yes than the Latinas. This summer I asked 5 girls (all Latinas) and all but one said no. But the one who said yes turned out to be a scam. One of the girls even started to lecture me on how dangerous it is for a girl to have a mans semen in her mouth. However they all said it was ok to cum on their bodies.
If you want CIM, try eastern Europeans as you will have a higher success rate.Thanks for the advice, I will try and see what happens.
So you like tattoos. She is perfect for you. Here is the good news. I was in the club tonight. She was there. I spoke with her. She will be working tomorrow (Sunday), and gets to the bar / casino at 5. 30 to 6 pm.
I don't do CIM so I don't know. Somehow I suspect she would say no. But I could be wrong. Definitely not with a guy she never went to a room with. She is VERY particular about cleanliness. Which is good. So go smelling beautiful! She has nice long new nails.
I didn't repeat with her tonight. Not because I didn't want to but because she met two friends who didn't take her to the room but they bought her a lot of drinks. But I spoke with her and she hopes to see you there tomorrow.
My night was mixed. Decided to get there early with a plan to do one hour Stephanie then one hour Ina and finish with a final hour of Veronica plus either Alicia or Elena. First two hours. Pretty dull. Casino was my best catch! Ended up abandoning the plan and doing 2. 5 hours with Ina and Veronica and had a fabulous time. Both are just so so good. For different reasons.
For a Saturday the club was really quite.Great, thanks for the info. Not sure what time I go there but hopefully she is free when I get there. Will report back.
Costapunta
11-21-21, 12:44
Hola Mongers All.
Yes, I know this is the repository for clubs on the CDS (my favourite hunting ground! But, whilst exploring its delights in the New Year, I'm going to have to spend a few days in the old city of Cadiz.
I know there is a Cadiz thread but it seems devoid of posts since 2020 so, in the hope that some of you fine gents might have wandered in that general direction, I'd be very grateful if anyone could point the smaller of my two heads at any clubs there worth visiting and which are still open.
I've not been able to get to the CDS for a couple of years, which is outrageous I know, so I'm looking forward to exploring all the old haunts again. Thanks all for the updates on the inhabitants and pricing etc re E92 and Scandalous et al.
I shall report on my own findings and exploits in due course.
Keep up the good work chaps!
Hola Mongers All.
Yes, I know this is the repository for clubs on the CDS (my favourite hunting ground! But, whilst exploring its delights in the New Year, I'm going to have to spend a few days in the old city of Cadiz.
I know there is a Cadiz thread but it seems devoid of posts since 2020 so, in the hope that some of you fine gents might have wandered in that general direction, I'd be very grateful if anyone could point the smaller of my two heads at any clubs there worth visiting and which are still open.
I've not been able to get to the CDS for a couple of years, which is outrageous I know, so I'm looking forward to exploring all the old haunts again. Thanks all for the updates on the inhabitants and pricing etc re E92 and Scandalous et al.
I shall report on my own findings and exploits in due course.
Keep up the good work chaps!Hi. I've never mongered in Cadiz and don't know if there are clubs there at all. Have been to Seville a few times and can recall back in the day 2 clubs then only one which was poor. So if you do find a gem or two please do report. Might make a nice excursion!
Costapunta
11-22-21, 11:19
Hi. I've never mongered in Cadiz and don't know if there are clubs there at all. Have been to Seville a few times and can recall back in the day 2 clubs then only one which was poor. So if you do find a gem or two please do report. Might make a nice excursion!Thanks PFI. There certainly used to be some clubs up there, one called New Palace across the harbour in Puerto de Santa Maria. Looks to be active from their FB page but I'll investigate and report back.
Looking forward to resuming activities on the CDS!
Cheers.
So Qaz. Did you get there on Sunday and did you see Stephanie? Would be good to get your report. Cheers.
So Qaz. Did you get there on Sunday and did you see Stephanie? Would be good to get your report. Cheers.Sorry for the delay, I was a bit busy.
Ok so the story, I got there at round 10 pm, it was very quiet, the girls were scattered, a few in the disco and a few in the bar and some in the casino (maybe less than 10-12 in total) I was surprised to see it this quiet, I was told that Saturday was also a very bad night (no punters) but was told that there are about 50 working, so I guess many were taking Sunday as their day off as PFI said, the weather was also bad on Sunday, a bit rainy however at night it was fine so I think all these factors caused the club to be quite dead.
I went to the bar and got myself a beer and sat down in a corner to check out the place, the ones working were really bad, not even one was above 3 ,so I was quite firm and said I was just having a drink so the ones who approached went away, after 15 min a blonde came down and approached me, she was better than the rest but maybe a 5 ,I said no, but I was not sure what to do after finishing my beer (I was sipping my beer, but it was nearly empty after 30 minutes) so was thinking either go to another club or just go with the blonde one even tho I was looking for the great ones mentioned by PFI (they were not working or maybe start very late on sundays, dunno) so it was disappointing. Then I suddenly saw Stephany in the bar, so without hesitation approached her (don't usually do that, normally prefer to wait so that they make the first move, but considering the conditions did not want to lose her as there were a couple of punters around and she was obviously the best looking one) , so I did not have much time to talk to her as I did not want to get another drink and she wanted to go upstairs, so asked her a couple of questions quickly just to make sure what to expect. The service was very good, did what she said she would do, but think she would do better if you choose longer time.
So in the end it was a good night, started badly and was panicing but was lucky to find her.
Then I suddenly saw Stephany in the bar, so without hesitation approached her (don't usually do that, normally prefer to wait so that they make the first move, but considering the conditions did not want to lose her as there were a couple of punters around and she was obviously the best looking one) , so I did not have much time to talk to her as I did not want to get another drink and she wanted to go upstairs, so asked her a couple of questions quickly just to make sure what to expect. The service was very good, did what she said she would do, but think she would do better if you choose longer time.
So in the end it was a good night, started badly and was panicing but was lucky to find her.Glad a poor night ended well. As you say, a lot of the girls take Sunday off. Saturday was indeed quiet too though I enjoyed a great time with Veronica and Ina.
Stephany relaxes into the room with longer time. I think a lot of them do. It is one of the reasons I don't do 30 minute rooms though I appreciate it is more expensive. The girls see guys who take 30 minutes as quick fuck and suck punters who they want to try to get finished in 10 minutes. If they know the punter will be in there for one or two hours, they have a different approach, and of course the service will be better as they are making more money. In the FKKs in Germany if I go with a new girl I'll start with 30 minutes in case she is poor but always with the caveat "I normally prefer long rooms, but we don't know each other and to see what the chemistry is like lets do 30 minutes and make a decision then". That usually provokes good service as the girl will try to ensure you stay longer.
For my part, ventured for one last foray at Scandalos last night. Club was busy for midweek though a lot of my favourites were missing. Nearly took Victoria. Venezuelan and very pretty, but then spotted long time favourite blonde Lorena Ro and could not resist a couple of hours with her at a decent discounted rate and of course she paid for the towels / room (I simply refuse now to pay that 30 e / hour). She was superb. As ever.
The contrast in pricing with E92 has become easier to understand. At E92 the girls pay a day rate of 75 euros to use the "hotel". They are paying guests. As such, they are almost bound by no different rules than a normal hotel guest. They can stay in their room all day if they want, go to the bar, casino, can go out of the club with a punter at no cost etc. Once they've paid that 75 they stay in the hotel and get fed there. It's actually a good deal but of course it adds to 525 euros per week or 2300 per month. So a fairly significant amount. In Scandalos the girls can elect to sleep in the club and be fed there. For free. But they pay 30 euros for every hour they take a punter in the room. If a girl does 4 punters in a night it's cost her 120 for that day. Or 5 punters means she paid double what she would have paid in E92. It is for this reason that many of the girls ask the (mainly rich) guys at Scandalos to pay the 30 e charge for the room. At E92 most guys don't flinch at paying the 10 for the room. 30 is just silly to ask the punter to pay.
E92 - Friday.
Arrived 01.00, place was quite dead but all areas were open. Was approached by a Mexican girl who I ended up doing a session with. 150€ 1 h + 10€ for sheets. As we entered the room she told me that some guy had swiped his credit card 15 times tonight and it all amassed to 5000€. All I could think was how is it possible to spend that much in a place like this on a night like this? Great BBJ but session was just ok.
Scandalos. Saturday.
Arrived 00.30. Had to buy a drink voucher for 15€ at the machine by the entrance. Excellent boy. Girl ratio (1-2) but there was no party ambiance like during the summer. Ordered a G&T and as soon as I got it two skinny girls told me that I should take them upstairs, I laughed and told them es mucho trabajo. They laughed as well and left me alone. Saw a girl that resembled Nicki Minaj (though not as dark) who I approached and tried to chat with for a while but she was very eager to either go upstairs or have me buy her a drink if I wanted to chat. I agreed to go upstairs, 250€ 1 h. She paid for the towels. It started off nice until she hit me with a CBJ! Her breasts were large but they had some skin coloured patch on both nipples (fresh boob job probably). Asked to snap a pic of her ass but she said no, afraid her tattoos would give her away.
Headed downstairs to recharge and was approached by a Rachel Mcadams lookalike. She was from Brazil and very sweet. I kinda regret not going with her. At this point I was quite drunk and whatsapped a girl I sessioned with this summer. She was working tonight and came sat next to me and for some reason I told her that I had just sessioned with a venezuelan chica and she got jealous. At first I found it cute but then she said bla bla can't believe you sessioned with another girl. She then asked for a drink I said ok, how much. 15€? She said 50. Wtf? I gave her 50€ and she handed it to the waiter and some white rubber card. 15€ to the bar and the rest for her I presume? We went upstairs after a while and had a great session. 250€ 1 h, no towel fee.
E92 - Friday.
Arrived 01.00, place was quite dead but all areas were open. Was approached by a Mexican girl who I ended up doing a session with. 150 1 h + 10 for sheets. As we entered the room she told me that some guy had swiped his credit card 15 times tonight and it all amassed to 5000. All I could think was how is it possible to spend that much in a place like this on a night like this? Great BBJ but session was just ok.
Scandalos. Saturday.
Arrived 00.30. Had to buy a drink voucher for 15 at the machine by the entrance. Excellent boy. Girl ratio (1-2) but there was no party ambiance like during the summer. Ordered a G&T and as soon as I got it two skinny girls told me that I should take them upstairs, I laughed and told them es mucho trabajo. They laughed as well and left me alone. Saw a girl that resembled Nicki Minaj (though not as dark) who I approached and tried to chat with for a while but she was very eager to either go upstairs or have me buy her a drink if I wanted to chat. I agreed to go upstairs, 250 1 h. She paid for the towels. It started off nice until she hit me with a CBJ! Her breasts were large but they had some skin coloured patch on both nipples (fresh boob job probably). Asked to snap a pic of her ass but she said no, afraid her tattoos would give her away.
Headed downstairs to recharge and was approached by a Rachel Mcadams lookalike. She was from Brazil and very sweet. I kinda regret not going with her. At this point I was quite drunk and whatsapped a girl I sessioned with this summer. She was working tonight and came sat next to me and for some reason I told her that I had just sessioned with a venezuelan chica and she got jealous. At first I found it cute but then she said bla bla can't believe you sessioned with another girl. She then asked for a drink I said ok, how much. 15? She said 50. Wtf? I gave her 50 and she handed it to the waiter and some white rubber card. 15 to the bar and the rest for her I presume? We went upstairs after a while and had a great session. 250 1 h, no towel fee.Nice report thanks. Glad you got back there. I don't believe anyone can spend 5000 euros in one night in E92. A bottle of premium champagne is 300. That's a lot of bottles and chicas to get to 5000. Never seen or heard of a Mexican in E92 so more than likely Brazilian or Columbiana or Dom Rep but hey it matters not.
Rachel MacAdams. Very much belief this is Marianna. I too regret not going with her and I intend to put that right if she is still there 2022. Sounds like your wallet got pounded at Scandalos but then you are not there so often and hey only one life!
Thanks for the very useful report. I won't be likely to be back on CDS now until Feb at earliest travel permitting from the West.
Any news?
Till 15 Jan. You must show your cov pass to enter bars and etc. Not sure if it is really enforced in clubs or not. Because don't think there are many willing to show their personal details at the door. Has anyone visited recently?
Any news?
Till 15 Jan. You must show your cov pass to enter bars and etc. Not sure if it is really enforced in clubs or not. Because don't think there are many willing to show their personal details at the door. Has anyone visited recently?Hi Qaz. I'm not on CDS now until probably late Feb or March 22. Don't much like the weather / unpredictability in the winter months and prefer warmer climes. Try to get to one of Australia / Dubai / Abu Dhabi / Thailand / Caribbean. Would love a trip to S America but Covid put paid to my plans there. Still. Very lucky to be heading to the sunshine tomorrow (Caribbean). Would be good to get some info from on the ground reports to our favourite haunts in Malaga and Fuengirola. I know a LOT of the girls went home for Christmas this year. One or two made the usual "I'm not coming back" resolutions which a lot of girls make but don't stick to!
TeddyBears
01-01-22, 16:17
Happy New Year gents! Hopefully 2022 can be a better year and the world can return to sanity again.
Happy New Year gents! Hopefully 2022 can be a better year and the world can return to sanity again.All the best TB. Hope we can meet up again in 2022. All the best for a happy and healthy 2022.
Has anyone visited 92, scandalo and milady palace lately? Hows it going?
BTW selecta in torremolinos is open again. Maybe under a new management. May be worth checking it out.
Has anyone visited 92, scandalo and milady palace lately? Hows it going?
BTW selecta in torremolinos is open again. Maybe under a new management. May be worth checking it out.You must be -psychic! I went to e92 tonight. Fabulous night. In addition to nearly all of the regulars being present. I won't list them as the list is long, there were quite a few girls from Scanadlos including the delicious Christiana 9/10 stunning and great body. Very pretty slim new Cubana Mercedes. List too long. On one count, obviously excluding girls in the rooms (and it was busy) I counted 72 girls in the club and bar.
It's clear: pandemic over so far as E92 is concerned. There were a lot of guys in the club. Roulette was packed out, one guy hit the jackpot on the machines in the bar, and the club was bouncing. Great to see. I was sorely tempted by Christina and several new latinas but ultimately could not resist Ina in her black leather shorts for 2 hours of fabulous fun. I am here for a couple of months now so will be visiting all of the clubs. I'm determined to even have one punt in Sala Divas! Thanks for the info on Selecta. Will give it a shot.
For the chap who posted who is staying in Estepona. As Qaz says here are the options (club wise):
1. Nearest to Estepona is Glass Palace - 200/ hour and you can find a beauty but often quiet club though the management say it is always busy after 1 am and I don't stay that late so don't know.
2. Aladdin is by the hotel Elba. Google it. West of Estepona and often decent options.
3. Bombom is same side as GP but on way to San Pedro. Normally 4 girls to choose from including blonde Ro Michaela. Good in the room.
4. West of Estepona. Club Cleofas. Campamento close to Gibraltar. Small club- 5 girls. Great pool table and vibe 140/ hour.
5. Fontana. In LOS Barrios. Further on than Cleofas - 30+ girls usually work - 180/ hour some stunners like Iris. Tattooed but superb body.
Looks like happily Club scene on the CDS is in full swing judging by tonight in E92. Will try Scandalos in the next couple of weeks.
Will obviously be avoiding escorts due to horrendous bait and switch false profiles and pics on all the Spanish escort sites. No need to take that risk when you can seek what you are buying in the flesh in the clubs.
You must be -psychic! I went to e92 tonight. Fabulous night. In addition to nearly all of the regulars being present. I won't list them as the list is long, there were quite a few girls from Scanadlos including the delicious Christiana 9/10 stunning and great body. Very pretty slim new Cubana Mercedes. List too long. On one count, obviously excluding girls in the rooms (and it was busy) I counted 72 girls in the club and bar.
It's clear: pandemic over so far as E92 is concerned. There were a lot of guys in the club. Roulette was packed out, one guy hit the jackpot on the machines in the bar, and the club was bouncing. Great to see. I was sorely tempted by Christina and several new latinas but ultimately could not resist Ina in her black leather shorts for 2 hours of fabulous fun. I am here for a couple of months now so will be visiting all of the clubs. I'm determined to even have one punt in Sala Divas! Thanks for the info on Selecta. Will give it a shot.
For the chap who posted who is staying in Estepona. As Qaz says here are the options (club wise):
1. Nearest to Estepona is Glass Palace - 200/ hour and you can find a beauty but often quiet club though the management say it is always busy after 1 am and I don't stay that late so don't know.
2. Aladdin is by the hotel Elba. Google it. West of Estepona and often decent options.
3. Bombom is same side as GP but on way to San Pedro. Normally 4 girls to choose from including blonde Ro Michaela. Good in the room.
4. West of Estepona. Club Cleofas. Campamento close to Gibraltar. Small club- 5 girls. Great pool table and vibe 140/ hour.
5. Fontana. In LOS Barrios. Further on than Cleofas - 30+ girls usually work - 180/ hour some stunners like Iris. Tattooed but superb body.
Looks like happily Club scene on the CDS is in full swing judging by tonight in E92. Will try Scandalos in the next couple of weeks.
Will obviously be avoiding escorts due to horrendous bait and switch false profiles and pics on all the Spanish escort sites. No need to take that risk when you can seek what you are buying in the flesh in the clubs.Thanks for the info.
Who is the most beautiful one in E92 ATM?
Have you tried christiana? Hows the service?
Thanks for the info.
Who is the most beautiful one in E92 ATM?
Have you tried christiana? Hows the service?As ever - "the most beautiful one" is in the eye of the beholder. One man's stunner is another man's horror! All depends what you want. I think Christina would be in the top 3 for most guys. Very pretty blonde face, nice boobs, good ass but not too big. Good service. Yes I've tried her but only once in Scandalos when I thought she was good but not amazing.
For service it is impossible to beat Ina and her body is just off the scale good 10/10.
For me, Veronica (blonde Ro, glasses) gives fantastic service, has the most amazing natural boobs and good skills.
For GFE Elena. Dark Ro brunette. Fabulous service.
For total service and something different. Jihara (black Cuban. Very nice).
New Cuban Mercedes, white looks a little Sophia Loren like has a good body.
Maria (blonde Ro) bob hair, a little heavy but fantastic service in the room.
Marissa, blonde Ro. Not the prettiest but fabulous service.
Alicia curly blonde Ro. Fabulous service and great attitude.
Monica. Brunette Ro. Terrific body and facially very pretty but awful attitude.
Beatrice Blonde Ro. Has put some pounds on but very pretty face and the BDSM fans all love her. She is professional.
Kelly (blonde Brazilian) has new hairstyle. Not for me (been in a room once with her) but was busy last night.
Camilla. Sometimes curly sometimes pulled back short hair. Cuban, older in 30's with superb body and good service.
Monica (the other brunette Ro with bigger boobs) brace on teeth. Terrific service more GFE.
Julia. Brunette Ro. Pretty and has lost some weight and looks good. Was good in our one room.
Beatrice (older Brazilian brunette) gym body and fabulous attitude.
Angie. Dark Ro. Very slim. Fabulous girl. Excellent in the room.
I could go on but won't. Probably another 15-20 I have left out, Daniella, Nicolette, the other (dark Christina) Stephany (not back for another 2 weeks) Marianna, Ana, Olympia (not back yet) and more.
Impossible to say who is the most beautiful, who is the best in the room.
I can only say I have never had bad rooms with any of the above perhaps with the exception of sexy slim dark long brunette Monica. Always catches my eye as she is pretty but bad attitude.
There must have been at least 15-30 girls last night I have never seen in E92 and I don't know at all.
There were several from Scandalos. When I asked why they moved I got the same answer. Crazy rules on 30 e for towels is making guys angry before the get to the room and constantly mamasan calling the room time over too early means again unhappy customers. I also think it is becoming so SA dominated that any girl from anywhere else is feeling isolated.
Get down to the club. E92 felt like it did 10 years ago last night. Great vibe, loads of people, lots of options. Still 150/ hour. I must have spoken to at least 25 girls last night including many of the new ones who have never seen me before and not one of them suggested more than the normal 150/ hour rate so not sure where this bartering for more has gone. I certainly didn't witness any of it but then it is very obvious when saying Hello, to and kissing a lot of the girls that I am a regular so maybe the new girls didn't want to risk trying on this silly upsell. That said, I am wondering how long the 150/ hour will last when Scandalos is very much now 250/ hour or 200 x2=400 for 2 hours. E92 is 100 euros per hour lower. Great value. Oh for sure I know some (will say private escorts can be found for 100/ hour or even less. But you just never know what they will look like until you turn up whereas in E92 you see right in front of your eyes what you are buying and can do the pre-room interview to ensure no surprises when you get upstairs. Win win and especially when the atmosphere was like last night. Just terrific.
As ever - "the most beautiful one" is in the eye of the beholder. One man's stunner is another man's horror! All depends what you want. I think Christina would be in the top 3 for most guys. Very pretty blonde face, nice boobs, good ass but not too big. Good service. Yes I've tried her but only once in Scandalos when I thought she was good but not amazing.
For service it is impossible to beat Ina and her body is just off the scale good 10/10.
For me, Veronica (blonde Ro, glasses) gives fantastic service, has the most amazing natural boobs and good skills.
For GFE Elena. Dark Ro brunette. Fabulous service.
For total service and something different. Jihara (black Cuban. Very nice).
New Cuban Mercedes, white looks a little Sophia Loren like has a good body.
Maria (blonde Ro) bob hair, a little heavy but fantastic service in the room.
Marissa, blonde Ro. Not the prettiest but fabulous service.
Alicia curly blonde Ro. Fabulous service and great attitude.
Monica. Brunette Ro. Terrific body and facially very pretty but awful attitude.
Beatrice Blonde Ro. Has put some pounds on but very pretty face and the BDSM fans all love her. She is professional.
Kelly (blonde Brazilian) has new hairstyle. Not for me (been in a room once with her) but was busy last night.
Camilla. Sometimes curly sometimes pulled back short hair. Cuban, older in 30's with superb body and good service.
Monica (the other brunette Ro with bigger boobs) brace on teeth. Terrific service more GFE.
Julia. Brunette Ro. Pretty and has lost some weight and looks good. Was good in our one room.
Beatrice (older Brazilian brunette) gym body and fabulous attitude.
Angie. Dark Ro. Very slim. Fabulous girl. Excellent in the room.
I could go on but won't. Probably another 15-20 I have left out, Daniella, Nicolette, the other (dark Christina) Stephany (not back for another 2 weeks) Marianna, Ana, Olympia (not back yet) and more.
Impossible to say who is the most beautiful, who is the best in the room.
I can only say I have never had bad rooms with any of the above perhaps with the exception of sexy slim dark long brunette Monica. Always catches my eye as she is pretty but bad attitude.
There must have been at least 15-30 girls last night I have never seen in E92 and I don't know at all.
There were several from Scandalos. When I asked why they moved I got the same answer. Crazy rules on 30 e for towels is making guys angry before the get to the room and constantly mamasan calling the room time over too early means again unhappy customers. I also think it is becoming so SA dominated that any girl from anywhere else is feeling isolated.
Get down to the club. E92 felt like it did 10 years ago last night. Great vibe, loads of people, lots of options. Still 150/ hour. I must have spoken to at least 25 girls last night including many of the new ones who have never seen me before and not one of them suggested more than the normal 150/ hour rate so not sure where this bartering for more has gone. I certainly didn't witness any of it but then it is very obvious when saying Hello, to and kissing a lot of the girls that I am a regular so maybe the new girls didn't want to risk trying on this silly upsell. That said, I am wondering how long the 150/ hour will last when Scandalos is very much now 250/ hour or 200 x2=400 for 2 hours. E92 is 100 euros per hour lower. Great value. Oh for sure I know some (will say private escorts can be found for 100/ hour or even less. But you just never know what they will look like until you turn up whereas in E92 you see right in front of your eyes what you are buying and can do the pre-room interview to ensure no surprises when you get upstairs. Win win and especially when the atmosphere was like last night. Just terrific.Great info, thanks.
I think monica and kelly should be my type. What is wrong with her attitude? Do these two give BBBJ and DFK? What time do they usually come down?
Thanks.
Great info, thanks.
I think monica and kelly should be my type. What is wrong with her attitude? Do these two give BBBJ and DFK? What time do they usually come down?
Thanks.Monica is a very pretty girl. She is quite moody. Maybe that's good for you. I doubt she will do BBBJ first time / room with you but if you became a repeat customer (as I was for a lot of 2019) she probably would do it. Fabulous body and in fairness until we had a falling out, which was actually my fault not hers, I really liked her. She is a bit selective about what she will and won't do in the room. So for example. She doesn't like DATY. Fine but not many girls don't like it! Up to her I suppose. But as optics go. Very pretty. Long dark hair, very pretty face. I apologised after her little spat. She wanted a huge bottle of champagne as a sorry. I refused and she's never spoken to me since. I think that is churlish. So despite several efforts at resolution I've given up and I find her attitude in not even saying Hello, to be childish and demonstrative of a poor attitude. In my view, her loss not mine as I was previously an excellent client of hers. She is the only girl I have fallen out with in a club in 20 years. But she hasn't fallen out with you. So by all means try her and as I say. She is very pretty. She often comes down early as she loves to gamble in the casino.
Kelly, Brazilian, big fake boobs, short bob hair now. Pretty face but in her 30's now. Comes down around 6-7 pm. Nice girl. Reasonable service in the room but I am not a fan of her silicones. Too much for me.
Enjoy both. As well as the many other options right now.
As ever - "the most beautiful one" is in the eye of the beholder. One man's stunner is another man's horror! All depends what you want. I think Christina would be in the top 3 for most guys. Very pretty blonde face, nice boobs, good ass but not too big. Good service. Yes I've tried her but only once in Scandalos when I thought she was good but not amazing.
For service it is impossible to beat Ina and her body is just off the scale good 10/10.
For me, Veronica (blonde Ro, glasses) gives fantastic service, has the most amazing natural boobs and good skills.
For GFE Elena. Dark Ro brunette. Fabulous service.
For total service and something different. Jihara (black Cuban. Very nice).
New Cuban Mercedes, white looks a little Sophia Loren like has a good body.
Maria (blonde Ro) bob hair, a little heavy but fantastic service in the room.
Marissa, blonde Ro. Not the prettiest but fabulous service.
Alicia curly blonde Ro. Fabulous service and great attitude.
Monica. Brunette Ro. Terrific body and facially very pretty but awful attitude.
Beatrice Blonde Ro. Has put some pounds on but very pretty face and the BDSM fans all love her. She is professional.
Kelly (blonde Brazilian) has new hairstyle. Not for me (been in a room once with her) but was busy last night.
Camilla. Sometimes curly sometimes pulled back short hair. Cuban, older in 30's with superb body and good service.
Monica (the other brunette Ro with bigger boobs) brace on teeth. Terrific service more GFE.
Julia. Brunette Ro. Pretty and has lost some weight and looks good. Was good in our one room.
Beatrice (older Brazilian brunette) gym body and fabulous attitude.
Angie. Dark Ro. Very slim. Fabulous girl. Excellent in the room.
I could go on but won't. Probably another 15-20 I have left out, Daniella, Nicolette, the other (dark Christina) Stephany (not back for another 2 weeks) Marianna, Ana, Olympia (not back yet) and more.
Impossible to say who is the most beautiful, who is the best in the room.
I can only say I have never had bad rooms with any of the above perhaps with the exception of sexy slim dark long brunette Monica. Always catches my eye as she is pretty but bad attitude.
There must have been at least 15-30 girls last night I have never seen in E92 and I don't know at all.
There were several from Scandalos. When I asked why they moved I got the same answer. Crazy rules on 30 e for towels is making guys angry before the get to the room and constantly mamasan calling the room time over too early means again unhappy customers. I also think it is becoming so SA dominated that any girl from anywhere else is feeling isolated.
Get down to the club. E92 felt like it did 10 years ago last night. Great vibe, loads of people, lots of options. Still 150/ hour. I must have spoken to at least 25 girls last night including many of the new ones who have never seen me before and not one of them suggested more than the normal 150/ hour rate so not sure where this bartering for more has gone. I certainly didn't witness any of it but then it is very obvious when saying Hello, to and kissing a lot of the girls that I am a regular so maybe the new girls didn't want to risk trying on this silly upsell. That said, I am wondering how long the 150/ hour will last when Scandalos is very much now 250/ hour or 200 x2=400 for 2 hours. E92 is 100 euros per hour lower. Great value. Oh for sure I know some (will say private escorts can be found for 100/ hour or even less. But you just never know what they will look like until you turn up whereas in E92 you see right in front of your eyes what you are buying and can do the pre-room interview to ensure no surprises when you get upstairs. Win win and especially when the atmosphere was like last night. Just terrific.LOL, I'm thinking I should save this list of yours to my phone in case I venture into estark92 some day, which, strange as it may seem, I just a few weeks ago realised I drive past several times a week. I'm a working stiff that has to get up early every day unfortunately, so what's a not too late time, but still worth going there? And the normal entrance is not through the door with the big estark92 sign, but through the hotel?
Monica is a very pretty girl. She is quite moody. Maybe that's good for you. I doubt she will do BBBJ first time / room with you but if you became a repeat customer (as I was for a lot of 2019) she probably would do it. Fabulous body and in fairness until we had a falling out, which was actually my fault not hers, I really liked her. She is a bit selective about what she will and won't do in the room. So for example. She doesn't like DATY. Fine but not many girls don't like it! Up to her I suppose. But as optics go. Very pretty. Long dark hair, very pretty face. I apologised after her little spat. She wanted a huge bottle of champagne as a sorry. I refused and she's never spoken to me since. I think that is churlish. So despite several efforts at resolution I've given up and I find her attitude in not even saying Hello, to be childish and demonstrative of a poor attitude. In my view, her loss not mine as I was previously an excellent client of hers. She is the only girl I have fallen out with in a club in 20 years. But she hasn't fallen out with you. So by all means try her and as I say. She is very pretty. She often comes down early as she loves to gamble in the casino.
Kelly, Brazilian, big fake boobs, short bob hair now. Pretty face but in her 30's now. Comes down around 6-7 pm. Nice girl. Reasonable service in the room but I am not a fan of her silicones. Too much for me.
Enjoy both. As well as the many other options right now.Thanks-. Monica sounds like an interesting one but that's really childish and rude not to say Hello, and stuff, but seems like its worth a try. Is she in the ina group? Or I should look for her with other girls?
LOL, I'm thinking I should save this list of yours to my phone in case I venture into estark92 some day, which, strange as it may seem, I just a few weeks ago realised I drive past several times a week. I'm a working stiff that has to get up early every day unfortunately, so what's a not too late time, but still worth going there? And the normal entrance is not through the door with the big estark92 sign, but through the hotel?Hi Werqeq. I remember years ago I used to take guys' lists to FKK land. There was a guy called Syzergies. He had an incredible memory and could list a good 70-80 girls by name and description. But I found that rather than enjoy the club and get to know the girls I liked myself, I looked a total nerd performing a military-styled spy operation when I got my list out of my gown pocket! Better to leave a list inside your jeans or jacket pocket, when you speak to a girl you really like, get her name, go to the gents and see if she was on the list and recommended! But remember also that what works for me might not for you. YMMV.
Anyway, truth is before 7 pm you are not going to find all the girls down in the club. But even with early starts, if you got to the club for 8 pm, checked options out for 30 minutes and went for an hour room (150 euros) you would home and in bed by 10 pm?
You can go through either the casino entrance or the hotel entrance. But most guys not staying in the hotel would enter via the casino or just by the hotel entrance you can turn left. Either works. Hope you get to go there and enjoy.
Thanks-. Monica sounds like an interesting one but that's really childish and rude not to say Hello, and stuff, but seems like its worth a try. Is she in the ina group? Or I should look for her with other girls?Nope Monica isn't in the Ina group. You are most likely to find her in the casino than anywhere else. So far as I know, she doesn't seem to have a best friend in the club so is often with a single girl but not the same one. But she is definitely never sat in the Ina / Veronica / Julia group. That's not our favourite Julia BTW it is the other one who did live with our favourite Julia across the street. Worth a punt as she is pretty if you like an optifuk and don't mind a girl saying she doesn't like this and doesn't like that etc. If it is a totally straight room, CBJ, FS, no kissing, no DATY, you'll enjoy her as she has a great slim body and is facially very pretty IMHO. Worth taking her for 30 minutes at the very least if you find her attractive. Note this is not the Monica with the large boobs and brace on her teeth. Who is very good GFE but not as pretty.
Hi Werqeq. I remember years ago I used to take guys' lists to FKK land. There was a guy called Syzergies. He had an incredible memory and could list a good 70-80 girls by name and description. But I found that rather than enjoy the club and get to know the girls I liked myself, I looked a total nerd performing a military-styled spy operation when I got my list out of my gown pocket! Better to leave a list inside your jeans or jacket pocket, when you speak to a girl you really like, get her name, go to the gents and see if she was on the list and recommended! But remember also that what works for me might not for you. YMMV.
Thanks. Never been to FKK, but I recognise that name from the Thailand forums.
Nope Monica isn't in the Ina group. You are most likely to find her in the casino than anywhere else. So far as I know, she doesn't seem to have a best friend in the club so is often with a single girl but not the same one. But she is definitely never sat in the Ina / Veronica / Julia group. That's not our favourite Julia BTW it is the other one who did live with our favourite Julia across the street. Worth a punt as she is pretty if you like an optifuk and don't mind a girl saying she doesn't like this and doesn't like that etc. If it is a totally straight room, CBJ, FS, no kissing, no DATY, you'll enjoy her as she has a great slim body and is facially very pretty IMHO. Worth taking her for 30 minutes at the very least if you find her attractive. Note this is not the Monica with the large boobs and brace on her teeth. Who is very good GFE but not as pretty.Thanks, I will try to go to E92 soon.
The new julia one should not have many clients, it seems the services she offers are very limited, nearly all of the other ones offer BBBJ, DFK, DATY, some may not offer DFK but if you offer none of these, then don't think its worth it. There are quite a few good looking ones there ATM so it is not only her, that's why I think she doesn't have many clients.
Thanks, I will try to go to E92 soon.
The new julia one should not have many clients, it seems the services she offers are very limited, nearly all of the other ones offer BBBJ, DFK, DATY, some may not offer DFK but if you offer none of these, then don't think its worth it. There are quite a few good looking ones there ATM so it is not only her, that's why I think she doesn't have many clients.Nope that's not right my friend. Sorry if I have given the wrong impression. It is Monica (who you are interested in) who does not do BBBJ DFK, DATY. Julia will do at least 2 of those (probably not DFK). Julia doesn't struggle for clients. My guess is that Monica doesn't struggle that badly as she is pretty. But she will likely struggle to get repeats as her services are limited in my experience.
Thanks. Never been to FKK, but I recognise that name from the Thailand forums.Trust me my friend. Book a week off work in June. Head to Frankfurt and get to FKK Oase 2 pm one day and FKK Sharks the next at the same time. You may not return! If you ever wondered what Julius Caesar felt like. You'll know. On a June afternoon, imagine lying around a nice swimming pool in the sun, with 120 totally naked ladies, (well some of them keep on their heels) either walking around the pool, playing in it, sunbathing, rubbing sun tan oil into your body, or giving you a BBBJ there on your sunbed. Sound like heaven? It is! Whilst I like the clubs in Spain, love the fun in Dubai, and Thailand and all its offering, nothing beats an FKK club in summer. I played naked 5 guys v 8 girls football in the grounds of Oase by the pool in 2018 - great fun, great sights and some of their tactics were, well, unfair! The girls won! Just a fabulous experience if you go to the right clubs. And there are literally hundreds of them all over Germany. Well worth a few trips. It's gotten more expensive post pandemic. Now mostly 150/ hour though most girls will do 250 for two hours.
Anyway. Back to Spain and CDS. Hope you get to E92 or Scandalos soon.
Trust me my friend. Book a week off work in June. Head to Frankfurt and get to FKK Oase 2 pm one day and FKK Sharks the next at the same time. You may not return! If you ever wondered what Julius Caesar felt like. You'll know. On a June afternoon, imagine lying around a nice swimming pool in the sun, with 120 totally naked ladies, (well some of them keep on their heels) either walking around the pool, playing in it, sunbathing, rubbing sun tan oil into your body, or giving you a BBBJ there on your sunbed. Sound like heaven? It is! Whilst I like the clubs in Spain, love the fun in Dubai, and Thailand and all its offering, nothing beats an FKK club in summer. I played naked 5 guys v 8 girls football in the grounds of Oase by the pool in 2018 - great fun, great sights and some of their tactics were, well, unfair! The girls won! Just a fabulous experience if you go to the right clubs. And there are literally hundreds of them all over Germany. Well worth a few trips. It's gotten more expensive post pandemic. Now mostly 150/ hour though most girls will do 250 for two hours..Not so sure now so many beauties around Oase or Sharks outside pools on June, when almost none on last Summer at Sharks. But BBBJ, DATY and French kissing are still standard in FKK, my new German girl explaining me how to make her squirt, took my dick to rub on her clit and also pussy. Her excitement is exciting.
Not so sure now so many beauties around Oase or Sharks outside pools on June, when almost none on last Summer at Sharks. But BBBJ, DATY and French kissing are still standard in FKK, my new German girl explaining me how to make her squirt, took my dick to rub on her clit and also pussy. Her excitement is exciting.True re last summer Sirioja but then it was mid-pandemic! I did Sharks, Oase, Mainhattan and Palace in September and it was well down on previous years with tests at the door and requirement at one point for ID. Always off-putting for punters. Last week that had almost all disappeared. I was disappointed with Sharks last week but Palace was really good. Oase is not the same without the sun. As a general overall experience FKK is impossible to beat (for me). Nothing comparable in Spain. The few private villas where they have 5 or 6 girls only to choose from are expensive and often with girls who cannot make a living in clubs as they are not pretty enough to compete. There are always exceptions but the price point is not good either. I did a trip to Casa Masa (near Milady Palace) in 2019 and the standard was terrible - 5 girls and 250/ hour. No thanks!
Nope that's not right my friend. Sorry if I have given the wrong impression. It is Monica (who you are interested in) who does not do BBBJ DFK, DATY. Julia will do at least 2 of those (probably not DFK). Julia doesn't struggle for clients. My guess is that Monica doesn't struggle that badly as she is pretty. But she will likely struggle to get repeats as her services are limited in my experience.Ahhh okkk thanks. Then I have to go and see. Because no BBBJ and DFK means there is no service for me. Do you know what days she works and what time she comes down?
Ahhh okkk thanks. Then I have to go and see. Because no BBBJ and DFK means there is no service for me. Do you know what days she works and what time she comes down?Honestly no idea on either as I no longer go with her but she is in the club most nights and lives in it. She wasn't there tonight. Thursday.
I tried an hour with the giraffe. Alicia - half Romanian Half Ukrainian. Stunning blonde. Model. Easily over 6 ft night with no heels. Wears heels and stockings in the club. Very sexy. Room just average. She likes her 'comforts' - (comes in varieties of pink or white, or green weed, or tablets). Not for me, stunning looking. Just average service.
Honestly no idea on either as I no longer go with her but she is in the club most nights and lives in it. She wasn't there tonight. Thursday.
I tried an hour with the giraffe. Alicia - half Romanian Half Ukrainian. Stunning blonde. Model. Easily over 6 ft night with no heels. Wears heels and stockings in the club. Very sexy. Room just average. She likes her 'comforts' - (comes in varieties of pink or white, or green weed, or tablets). Not for me, stunning looking. Just average service.Oh, I think that's too tall for my taste.
How was the club on Thursday night? Lots working? Clients?
Is bianca still there (new boob)? Do you know whether she gives good service or not?
Oh, I think that's too tall for my taste.
How was the club on Thursday night? Lots working? Clients?
Is bianca still there (new boob)? Do you know whether she gives good service or not?With the heels on she is easily 6'4". But it was worth a try. A member of this forum posted that he tried her three times last year. Couldn't get her out of his head. I sort of get it. She is very imposing and facially very pretty, but once was enough for me.
Club was bouncing off the walls after midnight. A lot of punters and a lot of girls. Quite a few new latinas. Several mentioned again having come from Scandalos. Whilst I'm determined to get back there to check it out soon, the increased pricing is not to every taste and I think what is becoming very clear is that the girls are finding it hard to actually snare a punter willing to spend that sort of money. One told me that whilst there are still big spenders there they "think they own you" and don't always treat girls very well in the room. Most working girls hate the phrase "but I have paid you" as if they are then entitled to do anything they want. I'm getting the impression that this is typical of the standard Scandalous (prices) client. Of course it won't be true of all. But the fact that the girls are leaving in numbers for "cheaper" clubs speaks volumes. Several 8/10 latinas last night. So it is not as if they are ugly!
No sign of Bianca on my visits in 2022.
True re last summer Sirioja but then it was mid-pandemic! I did Sharks, Oase, Mainhattan and Palace in September and it was well down on previous years with tests at the door and requirement at one point for ID. Always off-putting for punters. Last week that had almost all disappeared. I was disappointed with Sharks last week but Palace was really good. Oase is not the same without the sun. As a general overall experience FKK is impossible to beat (for me). Nothing comparable in Spain. The few private villas where they have 5 or 6 girls only to choose from are expensive and often with girls who cannot make a living in clubs as they are not pretty enough to compete. There are always exceptions but the price point is not good either. I did a trip to Casa Masa (near Milady Palace) in 2019 and the standard was terrible - 5 girls and 250/ hour. No thanks!For me Spain is much better than Germany to feel like on holidays and better foods, but when real French kiss, BBBJ and DATY are very standard for me in FKK and really important for my way of sex, maybe I didn't understand in good way, but don't seem same standard in Spanish brothels, when I can't have pleasure without kissing. Is it quite standard at E92?
For me Spain is much better than Germany to feel like on holidays and better foods, but when real French kiss, BBBJ and DATY are very standard for me in FKK and really important for my way of sex, maybe I didn't understand in good way, but don't seem same standard in Spanish brothels, when I can't have pleasure without kissing. Is it quite standard at E92?Firstly, Spain does NOT feel like on holidays right now. I have been here for 6 weeks now other than a quick 3 day trip to Frankfurt (reported on visits to Sharks, Oase and Palace) as I could not resist the temptation to get my first FKK trip in 2022 in. But in honesty, the weather in Germany, and even in the UK, is far far better than in Spain right now. The sun shone today for the first time properly in weeks. It is very very wet and windy here. Not holidays at all.
There are better foods in Spain if you eat in the right places and indeed the wine is better than in Germany. BBBJ is not standard in Spain. If you get to know the girl it becomes standard. I have maybe 10-15 girls I know well enough now in E92 that they will all give me BBBJ. But then they know me, they have been in the room many times with me, or their friends have. So they know I am ultra clean, totally shaven where it matters and because of this hobby I test every three weeks just in case. Never had an STD in my life but when you are having sex with so many people it is wise to check. It's not expensive and takes 5 minutes! So the girls feel pretty comfortable with BBBJ with me. If I go with a new girl I will ask for it, be told "I don't do it for anyone baby" and after they either speak to someone I suggest they talk to, or have 40 minutes in the room, they will agree.
I have never had anyone refuse DATY in any country! So if BBBJ is absolutely essential you would need to work at it! I also know from your many posts in the German forums you are a big fan of DFK. Again, very much depends on the girl here. Many don't at first. Same story as BBBJ. You have to remember the model is different. In Germany they require extra money for CIM, COB, CIF, Anal, BDSM. Here it is different. The hourly price is fixed (in E92 it is €150/60 - pretty much same as FKK land now with some exceptions) and they either include it all or not.
So because of your preferences for kissing and BBBJ, and because the weather is truly awful and the forecast is for more rain for at least another week or so, if I were you I would stick with FKK land. The shame is that the options (you call it casting) in E92 is really really good with a lot of great choices. See my further report tonight.
Contemplated Selecta or Scandalous (prices) but opted to return to my favourite E92 tonight, What a great choice. There were at least 15 girls I would have been very happy to take to the room, and I am told I am horribly picky / choosy. Some of the options were just off the scale tonight. Christina, blonde, Brazilian with fabulous body, looked to die for. Easily 9/10. Alina is back. She is total Sophie Loren lookalike. I have never taken her to the room. I will be putting that right. New tall brunette ro. In 30's but what a body and face. Easily 8/10. Ina looked sensational in red dress. I could go on and on. There were at least 10 girls tonight who looked 8+/10. Spoilt for choice.
The girls were well occupied by a large, well behaved crowd. It was a great atmosphere in there tonight. Party / fun / sexy.
I chose Elena (brunette Ro who was a fav of mine in 2018). Forgotten how incredible her nipples are (large and erect), great boobs, very pretty face and excellent service. The intended 1 hour easily became two until I all but staggered out of her room after 2 incredible hours. Just a fabulous time and club is really bouncing. Great to see post pandemic.
Andalus Expat
03-20-22, 22:25
BBBJ is not standard in Spain. PayForIt,
CBBJ's are a rarity, if anything, here. I honestly cannot remember the last girl who insisted. Any girl who didn't provide the service wouldn't get any repeat customers. It's not even an extra requires paying for. (unless they reckon you're a mug) It's taken for granted.
Sometimes one might get taken to the bathroom for a wash & polish but, if they know you & that you're considerate enough to have a shower before appointments, not even that. Maybe a wipe with a toallita.
PayForIt,
CBBJ's are a rarity, if anything, here. I honestly cannot remember the last girl who insisted. Any girl who didn't provide the service wouldn't get any repeat customers. It's not even an extra requires paying for. (unless they reckon you're a mug) It's taken for granted.
Sometimes one might get taken to the bathroom for a wash & polish but, if they know you & that you're considerate enough to have a shower before appointments, not even that. Maybe a wipe with a toallita.This might well be true in relation to the use of private escorts. Indeed most adds on slumi openly state BBBJ and of course they are offering that to everyone without knowing if they are clear or not. No doubt because they'll ensure the wash / wipe. But in clubs in Spain there are many girls who simply refuse altogether. They then fall into two categories (1) As I posted to Sirioja, some will relent if they get to know a regular customer, but (2) some won't. I know of 3 girls who work at E92, all lovely girls but none of those three will ever do BBBJ and they make a point of telling the customer in the club downstairs that if they want this they should choose someone else as they 100% will not do it. They do still get customers, including repeat customers because of their other attributes / skills.
I agree with you that it is not a question of money / an extra. The girls who do it here (which is most) don't charge for it. BBBJ was part of the service in FKK land until July 2017 when the law changed to outlaw it. Silly unenforceable law but serious fines for those "caught" transgressing and for a short time they did send undercover LE into clubs to find out if girls did it. When they got to the point of doing it they were arrested and some had 5000 fines. Crazy. But since the early enactment of that law, things have relaxed a lot. LE has realised it is virtually impossible to enforce. But it gave girls a window to use BBBJ as a big upsell along the lines of "well baby I'm taking a big risk so you have to pay". In most clubs that has gone too, though in FKK Artemis, the only FKK in Berlin, it has become a 20 extra. Pay it or it's CBJ. So far as I know, it has always been an extra in FKK Atmos(Hamburg), and in several places in Munich, but pretty much everywhere else BBBJ is an expected part of the service.
The girls in Spain didn't get that windfall from a law change, but as I say, at least in clubs, and this isn't just E92, it applies also in Vive Madrid, Estark at Diana Plus, E92, Scandalos, Sala Divas, Bel Air, Glass Palace Estepona and Fontana. There are some girls who will simply not be persuaded to do BBBJ. I don't doubt what you say that it might cost them some customers. But my overall advice to Siri was to differentiate between here and Germany. There, it's now back to it being standard without request, in Spanish clubs, it's best to check as not everyone does it.
Andalus Expat
03-21-22, 14:12
This might well be true in relation to the use of private escorts. Indeed most adds on slumi openly state BBBJ and of course they are offering that to everyone without knowing if they are clear or not. No doubt because they'll ensure the wash / wipe. But in clubs in Spain there are many girls who simply refuse altogether. They then fall into two categories (1) As I posted to Sirioja, some will relent if they get to know a regular customer, but (2) some won't. I know of 3 girls who work at E92, all lovely girls but none of those three will ever do BBBJ and they make a point of telling the customer in the club downstairs that if they want this they should choose someone else as they 100% will not do it. They do still get customers, including repeat customers because of their other attributes / skills.
I agree with you that it is not a question of money / an extra. The girls who do it here (which is most) don't charge for it. BBBJ was part of the service in FKK land until July 2017 when the law changed to outlaw it. Silly unenforceable law but serious fines for those "caught" transgressing and for a short time they did send undercover LE into clubs to find out if girls did it. When they got to the point of doing it they were arrested and some had 5000 fines. Crazy...As I've said to you before, you're talking about maybe 5% of the working girls in Spain. Or less. There's the small town clubs throughout the country. Never noticed much reluctance over BBBJs in them. But a different circuit of girls & different clients.
If you look at things from the girls' point of view, it's not hard to understand. Big club clients are hardly flavour of the month. No girl enjoys being pawed by full-of-themselves drunks. Even more so in the resort towns. Foreign tourists sweaty after a day in the sun & beer. A rudimentary shower, a belly full of curry & more beer & it's "Whay-hay lads. Let's go to a club!" Sure they're easy pickings but they're mostly half hour pump & dumps. Most girls either won't work the big clubs or have & are happy to get out. The girls who stick it are money-in-a-hurry for doing the least. Incentives. The majority of big club punters are one-offs or irregular visitors.
In a previous post you were dismissive of the talent in Casa Masa. You got it exactly the wrong way round. I know one of the previous hostesses. The last thing she'd need would be highly competitive club girl eyecandy. A couple of them would turn it into a battleground. They'd lose their girls & their clients. A good villa functions like a happy family. The manager manages the girls (and the clients) so they all get a slice of the pie. Sure you can go to a villa & they'll give you a parada & you can bang the talent. But then you might as well go to an apartment for the same. For its regular clients a good villa will be a home from home. They're not just about sex. Hospitality. Watching the big game with your mates with drinks & girls available to help celebrate victories or console defeats. Gambling. Not coin in the slot á la Estark's "casino" but chips on the table card schools. (I know a French guy in Marbella will run it.) You must have heard of "white parties". What better place to have a stag night? Small town clubs can have a similarity to villas because their clientele base is limited.
What goes on in FKK's I haven't a clue (You do know that freikorperkultur is just the camouflage they operate under? Don't think just because you see a FKK sign you can fuck the grannies) But again, they won't be representative of what's available in the country. Germany's got its own villas. As have France, Belgium & Holland. And its own apartments & independents. Prostitution's like icebergs. The easily visible bits are just the bits above the waves where the penguins hang out.
As I've said to you before, you're talking about maybe 5% of the working girls in Spain. Or less. There's the small town clubs throughout the country. Never noticed much reluctance over BBBJs in them. But a different circuit of girls & different clients.
If you look at things from the girls' point of view, it's not hard to understand. Big club clients are hardly flavour of the month. No girl enjoys being pawed by full-of-themselves drunks. Even more so in the resort towns. Foreign tourists sweaty after a day in the sun & beer. A rudimentary shower, a belly full of curry & more beer & it's "Whay-hay lads. Let's go to a club!" Sure they're easy pickings but they're mostly half hour pump & dumps. Most girls either won't work the big clubs or have & are happy to get out. The girls who stick it are money-in-a-hurry for doing the least. Incentives. The majority of big club punters are one-offs or irregular visitors.
In a previous post you were dismissive of the talent in Casa Masa. You got it exactly the wrong way round. I know one of the previous hostesses. The last thing she'd need would be highly competitive club girl eyecandy. A couple of them would turn it into a battleground. They'd lose their girls & their clients. A good villa functions like a happy family. The manager manages the girls (and the clients) so they all get a slice of the pie. Sure you can go to a villa & they'll give you a parada & you can bang the talent. But then you might as well go to an apartment for the same. For its regular clients a good villa will be a home from home. They're not just about sex. Hospitality. Watching the big game with your mates with drinks & girls available to help celebrate victories or console defeats. Gambling. Not coin in the slot la Estark's "casino" but chips on the table card schools. (I know a French guy in Marbella will run it.) You must have heard of "white parties". What better place to have a stag night? Small town clubs can have a similarity to villas because their clientele base is limited.
What goes on in FKK's I haven't a clue (You do know that freikorperkultur is just the camouflage they operate under? Don't think just because you see a FKK sign you can fuck the grannies) But again, they won't be representative of what's available in the country. Germany's got its own villas. As have France, Belgium & Holland. And its own apartments & independents. Prostitution's like icebergs. The easily visible bits are just the bits above the waves where the penguins hang out.I cannot quite believe I'm about to write this after the many spats we've had. But I found your post illuminating and informative and mainly correct. Totally get girls not wanting to give a decent BBBJ or indeed anything else to some fat, sweaty, curry-filled drunk tourist. In fact any of those 3 should rule out going to the room unless the girl is desperate for the cash. But this is not the typical tourist in a club. I've been going to these clubs for nearly 30 years not just in Spain. Sure you get some idiots, loud, drunk, sweaty etc. But I'm sure that happens in villas too. I've watched the guys on the door throw several out at E92. In Scandalos 4 years ago 3 large Russians decided to pick a fight with one of the main longstanding bouncers. A good friend of mine. Until his pals arrived I decided to pitch in to help him. Not that I wanted to, but I like the guy, and although he is massive he stood little chance against three so I decided to even the odds and I am not small. When two other girls from the door arrived quickly the odds fell in our favour and we hurled all three out of the club, one of them with several teeth missing. When Jummy1 unkindly (as he doesn't know me) complained about me "bragging about being welcome", (a) that lending of assistance has not been forgotten in the club by management, the longstanding staff and even the girls who have been there a while and (b) I am not idiot. I am well aware that as I spend quite a bit of money in these places I am bound to be welcome. Not for my sparking personality (which of course is not in doubt! But because of my willingness to part with decent cash for good service.
You are not entirely correct about the girls who stay for a long time in the big clubs. Whilst without doubt, most working girls like "money in a hurry" clients where the girls don't need to do much for their bucks, the truth is that some of the girls who have been at E92 and Scandalos for 6 or more years plus stay because they like the security. If things get ugly in the room they can get help and quickly. That is a big plus for them. It is a secure environment most of the time. I don't say always. Girls have been murdered in clubs across Europe as well is when working privately.
Whilst you are not wrong that a lot of the punters are one-offs, there are also many, like me, who are regulars. I don't mean the Spanish guys who go for two beers and the eye candy. I mean regulars I have come to know over the years.
Your description of the villa as a home from home for regulars was genuinely a head-turner. Never thought of it like that and I can imagine that it would be great. I have a similar set up with two tiny clubs. One in Spain and one in Switzerland, where I know the owners, girls and can go to these places sometimes not for sex at all. Great social atmosphere etc. But then that is also true of some smaller FKKs where again everyone gets to know you. So the thought of finding a villa with 4 or 5 pretty girls but where the experience is far more than just parade, sex out. Yep I would very much enjoy that. I love the small town club of Cleofas in Campamento. Never more than 5 girls at most but fabulous pool table and playing the girls and staff is terrific and the owners are great. I much prefer it to Fontana and as chance has it am about to frequent both tonight! I have regularly not gotten to Fontana because I have had such a great night at Cleofas, playing pool, watching some sport on the TV, chatting to the married owners, the girls, punters and then having a room or two. Fabulous.
If the final comment was intended to suggest I'm a penguin I'll take it. I love them! Cute little things.
And back on topic, yep. In the smaller clubs BBBJ is expected as standard. I don't blame many of the girls in the bigger clubs having rules about not doing it especially if confronted with the type of client you describe. But there are some who either genuinely will not budge no matter how well groomed, sober, slim, non-curry filled, non-sweaty, non-suntanned client. Until they get to know that guy a little, and maybe believe he is not one of those one-offs you mention, they stay by their stance. It changes if they get to know you. That's not (for Jummy's sake) "bragging" about being welcome. It's (a) normal guidance to the person who asked (Sirioja) that familiarity in these circumstances breeds not contempt but assurance and (b) normal rules of this sport that regulars are treated better if they don't rock up with your quoted beer belly, stinking of curry or anything else, fat, and worst of all sweaty.
I have been to Casa Masa 4 times and not had a good experience (other than in the room). It was off-putting. If there is a villa on the coast, where punters are welcome to turn up mid-afternoon, enjoy lazing around the pool with some pretty girls, a beer or two (but not 6), maybe some food, a glass of wine, and a couple of great hours with one or two of the girls, please let me know which one that is and I will try it for sure. Jesus, AE. You might even be there and we could "take in a game". Who would have believed it?!
As I've said to you before, you're talking about maybe 5% of the working girls in Spain. Or less. There's the small town clubs throughout the country. Never noticed much reluctance over BBBJs in them. But a different circuit of girls & different clients.
If you look at things from the girls' point of view, it's not hard to understand. Big club clients are hardly flavour of the month. No girl enjoys being pawed by full-of-themselves drunks. Even more so in the resort towns. Foreign tourists sweaty after a day in the sun & beer. A rudimentary shower, a belly full of curry & more beer & it's "Whay-hay lads. Let's go to a club!" Sure they're easy pickings but they're mostly half hour pump & dumps. Most girls either won't work the big clubs or have & are happy to get out. The girls who stick it are money-in-a-hurry for doing the least. Incentives. The majority of big club punters are one-offs or irregular visitors.
In a previous post you were dismissive of the talent in Casa Masa. You got it exactly the wrong way round. I know one of the previous hostesses. The last thing she'd need would be highly competitive club girl eyecandy. A couple of them would turn it into a battleground. They'd lose their girls & their clients. A good villa functions like a happy family. The manager manages the girls (and the clients) so they all get a slice of the pie. Sure you can go to a villa & they'll give you a parada & you can bang the talent. But then you might as well go to an apartment for the same. For its regular clients a good villa will be a home from home. They're not just about sex. Hospitality. Watching the big game with your mates with drinks & girls available to help celebrate victories or console defeats. Gambling. Not coin in the slot la Estark's "casino" but chips on the table card schools. (I know a French guy in Marbella will run it.) You must have heard of "white parties". What better place to have a stag night? Small town clubs can have a similarity to villas because their clientele base is limited.
What goes on in FKK's I haven't a clue (You do know that freikorperkultur is just the camouflage they operate under? Don't think just because you see a FKK sign you can fuck the grannies) But again, they won't be representative of what's available in the country. Germany's got its own villas. As have France, Belgium & Holland. And its own apartments & independents. Prostitution's like icebergs. The easily visible bits are just the bits above the waves where the penguins hang out.True, but there are also some who work in villas or as an independent and don't offer BBBJ and DFK, even tho it is quite rare, but some eye candy ones don't feel the need to do it even tho they work as independents, as you said before, they want to get cash as fast as possible and work as little as possible, so if they have clients and they are not demanding, then they can reject many services.
But I pretty much feel that BBBJ is quite normal in clubs here (DFK maybe a little bit different) ,for example in estark BBBJ has always been on the menu, never had any problem with it (but I always ask for it down in the bar), only once a few years ago in villa magna one said she wouldn't do it nor DFK, never again heard this. DFK is different because some of them say there must be some sort of chemistry, if there is nothing they don't really feel like doing it, but again in estark so far all of them have provided this service, except for one who said just kissing but not DFK.
Tiny. Your post in full below and my responses underneath.
I'm looking at going to Fontana and Cleofas this week. A few questions.
1. About what time do you start to see a decent number of women in the two clubs? Would there be any sense going in the day if you were just passing by? I see that Cleofas appears to open at 5:00 PM, and La Fontana's facebook page says it's open 24 hours.
2. Are there any days that are better than others?
3. I can't find Fontana on Google Maps but see from the forum that it's close to Guardacorte Park Hotel. If I can get to the hotel, will I be able to see Fontana? For example, is Fontana across the street?
4. Somebody mentioned a casino with great food close to Fontana, but for the life of me I can't find the post.
1. By "decent number of women" that suggests quite a few. Cleofas never has more than 4 or 5. I was there on Monday and there were 4 and none of them up to standard so I left. Fontana has more but only if you are willing to wait until after 11.30 pm. You can expect 20+ after that time.
2. As usual. Fridays and Saturdays more busy than others and Sundays and Mondays tend to be very quiet (as I found).
3. Fontana is on the same side of the road as the Guadacorte Park hotel. If you are driving from Malaga direction towards Cadiz you will see the big illuminated building on the left as you are approaching the Salina / turn off for the hotel (which from memory I think is 115 B). You can check in the hotel if you are staying there (its cheap and cheerful but ok) and walk to the club (5 minutes) or if you drive to it, you'll pass the hotel on the right, then keep going to the next turn off, take it and go all the way down. It looks like a dead end and there are taxis parked there. But the club has its own car park and you can park there underneath for free. You then pay the guy down there 10 e entry. He gives you a ticket and you exchange that for your first drink and there is direct access from the underground car park into the club. It was horribly quiet on Monday night at 11.15 pm. Only 6 girls, none to my taste so again, I left.
4. Admiral casino is off salida 124. It's 10-15 minutes max drive from Fontana. I wouldn't describe the food as great. It has a decent restaurant and the food is reasonably good. Not as good as it once was. I like the casino. It's really friendly (though you'll need ID for entry) and there are large screen TVs for sports etc as well as the gambling. Admiral Lodge is also a hotel based on that casino site.
Hope that helps and do report if you get to either club.
Thanks.
Much appreciated PayForIt! I was planning on going tomorrow. Maybe I'll wait until Friday based on your thoughts. I will report back. Apologies for posting in the wrong thread, and thanks for going to the trouble to move my post to this one and provide a detailed reply.
Andalus Expat
03-23-22, 18:57
True, but there are also some who work in villas or as an independent and don't offer BBBJ and DFK, even tho it is quite rare, but some eye candy ones don't feel the need to do it even tho they work as independents, as you said before, they want to get cash as fast as possible and work as little as possible, so if they have clients and they are not demanding, then they can reject many services.
But I pretty much feel that BBBJ is quite normal in clubs here (DFK maybe a little bit different) ,for example in estark BBBJ has always been on the menu, never had any problem with it (but I always ask for it down in the bar), only once a few years ago in villa magna one said she wouldn't do it nor DFK, never again heard this. DFK is different because some of them say there must be some sort of chemistry, if there is nothing they don't really feel like doing it, but again in estark so far all of them have provided this service, except for one who said just kissing but not DFK.DFK will always be a difficult one. Look at it from the girl's point of view. She's sharing what the client had for dinner. Personally, I can never understand why guys want the service. She's a puta not a girlfriend. That's not to say I don't snog putas. But that'll be girls I've known for a while & because they want to. As you say, chemistry. Not available on half hour appointments.
Andalus Expat
03-23-22, 22:16
I have been to Casa Masa 4 times and not had a good experience (other than in the room). It was off-putting. If there is a villa on the coast, where punters are welcome to turn up mid-afternoon, enjoy lazing around the pool with some pretty girls, a beer or two (but not 6), maybe some food, a glass of wine, and a couple of great hours with one or two of the girls, please let me know which one that is and I will try it for sure. Jesus, AE. You might even be there and we could "take in a game". Who would have believed it?!I spent a summer doing exactly that at a villa on Torreblanca.
But there's a backstory to it. Starts with my cousin staying with me & wanting a girl. So I gave him Pasion & told him to pick one & I'd organise. What turned up was a tattooed 6 ft Brasiliena on 8 inch platforms. He went white & shaky. I could have given her her cab fare & fucked her off but opted for sending because to bed, paying her 150 & opening a bottle. We were still sitting on the sofa, 3 hours later, when she told me she had to go back to the villa she was running. So we got a cab & walked into her salon to find an officer of the Guardia doing lines of coca with his arm round a puta. I think I got my 150 worth in her bed around 7 AM. So I was "family" with privileges from the off.
And why the following year I rented a villa & tried running one. There's guys posted on this board visited it. Just what you'd like. Pool with a bar & sauna by it. Massive garden, totally invisible to anyone not in it. Main house had 9 rooms, but there was also a separate building as a dormitory for the girls & a separate one bedroom cottage for me. Ran for a couple of years in fits & starts. We had some very successful times. One night I had 16 guys around the pool & only 5 girls. I was ringing round putas to make up the numbers. But it's incredibly hard work. First thing's the Catch 22. You can't get & keep girls without clients & you can't get clients without girls. Solution, if you can afford it, is pay girls to do nothing but hang around looking pretty & painting their nails. Then having got some clients, you have to get rid of those girls & get some others. Who don't expect to be paid for sitting around painting their nails. Because the originals will have become habituated & a pain in the arse to get to do anything. Then there's the clients. The guys coming down from northern Europe are OK. As far as I was concerned they could drink for free. With a drink costing me under a euro why would I ration it by price? I want them pissed. I want all their money, not just some. We recover the money in the drinks they buy the girls for their company. Do this with the Spanish & you'd have them for the entire day & night, drinking you dry without spending a cent. And that is why you'll have so much trouble finding what you want. The Spanish are natural freeloaders without a hint of shame. Except for the few that aren't.
What did I learn? The girls. I like putas. They are my sort of people. I've known them since I was a kid. I left home in my teens & lived in a bedsit in Earls Court. Sitting around a West End coffee bar trying to make a cappuccino last two hours you meet 3 sorts of people. People like yourself. People you really don't need to meet. Prossies doing the same thing as you are. After the 10 seconds it takes for them to sus you're not a prospective client, they can be good friends. They know everything worth knowing about surviving in a city. So wherever I go, I look for putas to find out how wherever it is it works. But 90% of them are evil, heartless, lazy, thieving slags. Most of the hard work of a villa is managing the girls & stopping them ripping strips off each other. Or dealing with the problems they've caused.
Is there any money in it? Very little. Maybe one could make a living. Never a fortune. The vast supply side surplus makes it impossible unless you're selling something different from the competition. Most people go bust shortly after commencing. For my part, the rent on the villa I would have been paying anyway. I like luxury houses. I'd be paying for parties & girls whatever happened. I just got them cheaper. I reckon I could make more money in virtually any other business I tackled. I regarded it as entertainment. (We did run a massage studio in part of the house made a packet. But masajistas are easier to deal with than putas. They do what they're told. So I got to set the price points* & we nicked half the clients in the town.).
So if you want a home-from-home PayForIt, find yourself a villa & invest some time & money in it. Maybe Casa Masa. Become a regular. Build some cred. Then if you want to watch the game with your mates, set it up with your mates** & the encargada will do the rest. Same for anything else. That's what they're there for. But they're not going to provide anything there's no demand for. And in my experience, they have no imagination.
*This needs explaining. If you're running girls, they will expect to be receiving a percentage of the client fee. 50% is common. So if the client pays 120/ h the girl will expect 60. Now say you're opening a new house & you want to attract clients. You want to set the client price at 90, to undercut the competition, but still pay the girls 60. (You can turn a profit for the house at 30, if you get sufficient clients. Your fixed costs don't change with volume) The girls won't be happy because they're fucking clients for 90. They see it as giving the client 30. In which case why can't you charge the client 120 & give them 90? It would be all the same to you. The concept of making more from a smaller slice of a much larger pie is totally beyond them. That's why they are doing the work they are.
**Leave me out. I find soccer as interesting as watching paint dry.
Much appreciated PayForIt! I was planning on going tomorrow. Maybe I'll wait until Friday based on your thoughts. I will report back. Apologies for posting in the wrong thread, and thanks for going to the trouble to move my post to this one and provide a detailed reply.Absolutely no need for apologies. I have to say the selections in Cleofas were an all time low for me. None of the ladies was slim, and none of them under 30. The days of Monica and Dina (both very pretty, and great fun as well as slim) have seemingly gone. Owner Antonio is a lovely guy and the pool table is good. But it's the chicas you are really there for and they were not above 5/10. I rather doubt Friday would be a lot better but if you are driving its worth popping in to see.
Fontana will undoubtedly be better on a weekend night. There was one very sexy slim blonde but she was occupied and I couldn't get near her. There were other reasonable options but again nothing amazing. Have a good trip and hope it works out better for you than it did for me.
MagicSheep74
03-24-22, 10:15
I know it's not often used, but Casa Masa is no more. The elderly male owner died and the Villa was left to his kids. They promptly sold it, and off the went with the proceeds. I did have a few amusing times at the place, but I can't say it will be sorely missed.
I don't post too much these days, as I am mainly using Seeking Arrangements vacations with girls these day. Last month was in Prague with a Venezuelan girl that briefly worked in Casa Masa. She is great company and has an incredibly pretty face. 1500 Euro's is the current deal for a 4 day trip. Going to Sweden in April with her, then I'll move on to someone new after that.
Will report when I start back at the club scene late April, but I am currently taking full advantage of less restrictive travel with good flights / hotel deals.
MS.
Andalus Expat
03-24-22, 18:56
I know it's not often used, but Casa Masa is no more. The elderly male owner died and the Villa was left to his kids. They promptly sold it, and off the went with the proceeds. I did have a few amusing times at the place, but I can't say it will be sorely missed.
I don't post too much these days, as I am mainly using Seeking Arrangements vacations with girls these day. Last month was in Prague with a Venezuelan girl that briefly worked in Casa Masa. She is great company and has an incredibly pretty face. 1500 Euro's is the current deal for a 4 day trip. Going to Sweden in April with her, then I'll move on to someone new after that.
Will report when I start back at the club scene late April, but I am currently taking full advantage of less restrictive travel with good flights / hotel deals..You have style Mr Sheep. Respect!
I know it's not often used, but Casa Masa is no more. The elderly male owner died and the Villa was left to his kids. They promptly sold it, and off the went with the proceeds. I did have a few amusing times at the place, but I can't say it will be sorely missed.
I don't post too much these days, as I am mainly using Seeking Arrangements vacations with girls these day. Last month was in Prague with a Venezuelan girl that briefly worked in Casa Masa. She is great company and has an incredibly pretty face. 1500 Euro's is the current deal for a 4 day trip. Going to Sweden in April with her, then I'll move on to someone new after that.
Will report when I start back at the club scene late April, but I am currently taking full advantage of less restrictive travel with good flights / hotel deals.
MS.Have fun and look forward to hearing how Sweden goes. You are missing nothing in Spain. The weather is the worst for many years. After torrential rains (which in fairness were much needed) we are now blessed today with totally orange skies and every car turned orange with sands from Africa. The sea is orange. The roads are orange, skies are orange and I'm at Scandalos tonight expecting to meet orange women! You are a better man than me. I'm afraid I would tire of the same company / body after 4 days! I took a quick look on SA and also Sugar Daddy's. Some pretty girls, and higher end than in the clubs without doubt, but just don't want the trimmings that come with extended company. Did a girl in Thailand (Therme Bangkok) for 3 days once, good English and the best eyes I've ever seen. But after a fabulous first night, the second was average and I ended up terminating the deal on the morning of day 3. I suppose it very much depends who you get, but I'm more inclined to have a great one off night with my selection. I have several girls I constantly repeat with. Which is fine and I enjoy it (Veronica from E92 is my now 2 year favourite and I probably have more than 1 night per week average with her) but I don't think I want the extra requirements of dinner etc. But to each their own and I know you wouldn't be doing it regularly unless it really worked for you.
As you say, travel is returning to normal. I've bounced between Spain, Germany and Dubai in the last 3 months and the gradual easing of restrictions is welcome. Even in Thailand now the 2nd PCR on day 5 has been scrapped. Good to see a return to normal life. Although the permanently orange surroundings on the CDS don't feel that normal!
This has been one bizarre day. It was practically raining sand this afternoon. The sky was some shade of brownish pink straight out of a bad science fiction movie and visibility progressively got worse and worse. A storm had carried a ton of dirt from the Sahara and dumped it all over everything. A local told me this happens from time to time, but this was the worst he'd ever seen. I'd been walking around in the rain and my clothes were filthy. So I figured I looked too ragged for Fontana, and that left only one option: Cleofas.
I got there about 5:30 PM and there were 5 women there. None were particularly attractive, but one Dominican named Sirena (I think) had huge tata's and kind of did it for me. So I contracted with her for an hour for 130 EUR. Service was great and she was fun to talk to. She told me there were only 5 women who worked there, being 3 Dominicanas, one espanola and one woman from Turkey. Anyway if you want some action in the afternoon, after 5:00 PM when they open, and you're not too picky, this might be a happy hunting ground.
So afterwards it was time to find a good place to eat. I ended up at Restaurante Cortijo Guadacorte, a short distance from Fontana. The appetizer, a salad of tomato, avocado and tuna drenched in olive oil, was world class. The baked fish was good.
Aside: I couldn't figure out for the life of me why PayForIt gave me ridiculously detailed instructions how to get to Fontana. Didn't he figure I'd just dial Hotel Guadacorte Park into my GPS? What kind of fool does he think I am? Well, what I discovered is that PayForIt is a wise man, and I'm a dumb ass. I discovered you can spend endless time taking the wrong exit off of roundabouts and going in circles up and down Highway A7. Next time I'm going to memorize PayForIt's directions.
After Restaurante Cortijo Guadacorte, with some difficulty, I ended up at Hotel Guadacorte Park. They had a room available for $65. I took it, cleaned up, and headed over on foot to Fontana.
My initial impression was very negative. The Eastern European women, apparently mostly Bulgarians, with a couple of Romanians, are fucking sharks. They wouldn't leave me alone even after I'd politely ask them to get lost. I actually started to walk out of the club after about 5 minutes, and on the way out one of the women talked me into coming back. I was next accosted by a Venezuelan who was a bit more courteous than the Bulgarians. She maybe was in her late 30's, but still had a kick ass body. Her name was Evie. She introduces me to her attractive friend Laisa. Evie starts putting the hard sell on me. $250 for both of them for 40 minutes. She tells me all the perverted things they're going to do with me. When she figures I'm not interested she offers her friend for an hour for $250. I said what's the deal, it's only $180. She says no, it hasn't been $180 in a long time. I say OK, I'm going to look around some more. She says OK, my friend Laisa will spend an hour with you for $200.
So off we go. When we go to get a room, Laisa tells the attendant something about Evie. When we're naked and about to do the deed, Evie walks in, throws off her clothes, and starts going down on me. Anyway she succeeded in getting me agree to go for both of them, $200 a piece, for an hour.
Evie trots off and then comes back with her bag of toys. She lays about 5 giant dildos out on the bed, and says she likes to get fucked in the ass, but the dildos are for me. No fucking way! I tell her you're not shoving one of those up my ass. She says but the Spaniards like it. Well, fine, I don't. Then she asks if I want some cocaine, gratis. Actually when I told one of the Bulgarians to buzz off earlier she also asked me if I wanted some. Anyway no to that too.
I ended up directing the two women and had a reasonably good time. Laisa was annoying as hell when we were doing the deed though, because she kept her fingers around the condom while I was fucking her. I'd heard of women doing that before but figured it was some kind of urban legend. Now I can attest it happens in real life.
Evie was perverted as hell, but she only wanted me to enter her doggie style or do her in the ass. Finally she relented and got on top though.
After about 45 minutes the festivities came to an end and we parted. I guess I should have gone for the $250 for 2 women for 40 minutes deal. It would have been $150 cheaper than what I paid.
Would I go back to the place? I'm not sure. Like I think PayForIt said, it's out of the way, not close to much of anything, and it wasn't exactly a world class experience for me. There was one Bulgarian who was drop dead gorgeous. And a number of the women were doable.
So here I am posting at 2 am again. Jummy1 will be furious!
Terrific night in Scandalos. I have a new tactic entirely. Instead of the silly prices €250 or €200/ hour and the absolutely crazy €30 per hour for the room, you take the chicas out to Malaga Nostrum. It is 50 e to take a girl out.
I had a fabulous time in the club. Lots of favourites present including Melissa (Brazilian stunner) busy most of the night, Carol (her birthday tonight) gym body. Amazing six pack and her pretty short friend Louisa. Again both Brazilian as were most of the girls.
Ana Maria. My fav Romanian in the club. Blonde - great body and had a fabulous 2 hours with her last year. Occupied all night.
I ended up taking Mayte and Anna (both blonde Romanians) out of the club.
I won't say what happened, whether the service was great or not, how much it all cost, as Jummy1 will say I am being sanctimonious or even salivating after the event. LOL!
Anyway. Great options in the hideously priced Scandalos unless you get an idea on how to make it financially worth it.
You take a girl out for 50 e. Take her to the bar at MN. Drinks normal prices, up to the room. Now she is free of the club she can negotiate her own price.
Let's just say I had a memorable threesome for not much more than it would have cost me in E92. Scanadalos pricing structure either needs to change or they will realise soon enough that most punters will find away around it.
Andalus Expat
03-25-22, 09:12
So here I am posting at 2 am again. Jummy1 will be furious!
Terrific night in Scandalos. I have a new tactic entirely. Instead of the silly prices 250 or 200/ hour and the absolutely crazy 30 per hour for the room, you take the chicas out to Malaga Nostrum. It is 50 e to take a girl out.
I had a fabulous time in the club. Lots of favourites present including Melissa (Brazilian stunner) busy most of the night, Carol (her birthday tonight) gym body. Amazing six pack and her pretty short friend Louisa. Again both Brazilian as were most of the girls.
Ana Maria. My fav Romanian in the club. Blonde - great body and had a fabulous 2 hours with her last year. Occupied all night.
I ended up taking Mayte and Anna (both blonde Romanians) out of the club.
I won't say what happened, whether the service was great or not, how much it all cost, as Jummy1 will say I am being sanctimonious or even salivating after the event. LOL!.Question is, PayForIt, is the club making money? It's not the number of girls or the number of blokes. It's how much money's moving. How many drinks are on the tables & girls' hands? What drinks? That what is going on in a club is good for you does imply it's good for the club. They're totally separate things.
When I was in Estark with Pepe last summer, it was fairly obvious they weren't making much. Lot of girls. Lot of blokes. Looked busy. But the blokes were mostly young Spanish, standing in twos & threes holding beers. Likely down from the inland cities holidaying with their families. That's how the Spanish do it. The girls were mostly sitting on the sofas drinkless. Hardly any glasses on the bar.
That you were able to negotiate a lower rate outside the club may tell us something. How much under the in-club rate? Girls don't want you buying them drinks at normal prices. They don't want a drink at all. They want their cut of the drink.
Clubs have fixed costs irrespective of turnover. That's most of their costs, the turnover related ones are trivial. Before the prices hike, presumably they were covering them. Are they covering them now?
Like I said in my previous post, it's not the size of the slice of the pie that counts. It's the size of the pie. The Spanish don't get this. The managements of these places are business economics morons. You only have to be in business & look at them to know that.
Andalus Expat
03-25-22, 10:09
Firstly, there's two reasons to do this. If you're providing entertainment people normally would pay for. To ration entry by price if you're running close to capacity. You don't want freeloaders shutting out your paying customers. Neither of these generally apply at puticlubs. If it was the latter you'd charge entry at discretion.
They do it so they're guaranteed to get some money out of the punter whether he stays or not. Yes I know it covers a drink from the bar. It's still money. If your punter enters the club & decides he'd rather not stay, he resents being fleeced. Being obliged to stay & drink to recover his outlay increases the resentment. You now have a punter who probably won't revisit your club & may badmouth it to his mates.
Freeloaders aren't really a problem. Maybe they're not a freeloader & just wanted a girl. The girls will take care of the genuine freeloaders for you. They'll know a guy standing without a drink in his hand probably is & will give him minimal attention. They'll end up being blanked. Blanked, they don't hang around very long.
This is basic stuff in the entertainment industry. Everybody knows it. Except the managements of puti clubs.
This has been one bizarre day. It was practically raining sand this afternoon. The sky was some shade of brownish pink straight out of a bad science fiction movie and visibility progressively got worse and worse. A storm had carried a ton of dirt from the Sahara and dumped it all over everything. A local told me this happens from time to time, but this was the worst he'd ever seen. I'd been walking around in the rain and my clothes were filthy. So I figured I looked too ragged for Fontana, and that left only one option: Cleofas.
I got there about 5:30 PM and there were 5 women there. None were particularly attractive, but one Dominican named Sirena (I think) had huge tata's and kind of did it for me. So I contracted with her for an hour for 130 EUR. Service was great and she was fun to talk to. She told me there were only 5 women who worked there, being 3 Dominicanas, one espanola and one woman from Turkey. Anyway if you want some action in the afternoon, after 5:00 PM when they open, and you're not too picky, this might be a happy hunting ground.
So afterwards it was time to find a good place to eat. I ended up at Restaurante Cortijo Guadacorte, a short distance from Fontana. The appetizer, a salad of tomato, avocado and tuna drenched in olive oil, was world class. The baked fish was good.
Aside: I couldn't figure out for the life of me why PayForIt gave me ridiculously detailed instructions how to get to Fontana. Didn't he figure I'd just dial Hotel Guadacorte Park into my GPS? What kind of fool does he think I am? Well, what I discovered is that PayForIt is a wise man, and I'm a dumb ass. I discovered you can spend endless time taking the wrong exit off of roundabouts and going in circles up and down Highway A7. Next time I'm going to memorize PayForIt's directions.
After Restaurante Cortijo Guadacorte, with some difficulty, I ended up at Hotel Guadacorte Park. They had a room available for $65. I took it, cleaned up, and headed over on foot to Fontana.
My initial impression was very negative. The Eastern European women, apparently mostly Bulgarians, with a couple of Romanians, are fucking sharks. They wouldn't leave me alone even after I'd politely ask them to get lost. I actually started to walk out of the club after about 5 minutes, and on the way out one of the women talked me into coming back. I was next accosted by a Venezuelan who was a bit more courteous than the Bulgarians. She maybe was in her late 30's, but still had a kick ass body. Her name was Evie. She introduces me to her attractive friend Laisa. Evie starts putting the hard sell on me. $250 for both of them for 40 minutes. She tells me all the perverted things they're going to do with me. When she figures I'm not interested she offers her friend for an hour for $250. I said what's the deal, it's only $180. She says no, it hasn't been $180 in a long time. I say OK, I'm going to look around some more. She says OK, my friend Laisa will spend an hour with you for $200.
So off we go. When we go to get a room, Laisa tells the attendant something about Evie. When we're naked and about to do the deed, Evie walks in, throws off her clothes, and starts going down on me. Anyway she succeeded in getting me agree to go for both of them, $200 a piece, for an hour.
Evie trots off and then comes back with her bag of toys. She lays about 5 giant dildos out on the bed, and says she likes to get fucked in the ass, but the dildos are for me. No fucking way! I tell her you're not shoving one of those up my ass. She says but the Spaniards like it. Well, fine, I don't. Then she asks if I want some cocaine, gratis. Actually when I told one of the Bulgarians to buzz off earlier she also asked me if I wanted some. Anyway no to that too.
I ended up directing the two women and had a reasonably good time. Laisa was annoying as hell when we were doing the deed though, because she kept her fingers around the condom while I was fucking her. I'd heard of women doing that before but figured it was some kind of urban legend. Now I can attest it happens in real life.
Evie was perverted as hell, but she only wanted me to enter her doggie style or do her in the ass. Finally she relented and got on top though.
After about 45 minutes the festivities came to an end and we parted. I guess I should have gone for the $250 for 2 women for 40 minutes deal. It would have been $150 cheaper than what I paid.
Would I go back to the place? I'm not sure. Like I think PayForIt said, it's out of the way, not close to much of anything, and it wasn't exactly a world class experience for me. There was one Bulgarian who was drop dead gorgeous. And a number of the women were doable.What a great report. Thanks! I howled laughing at your comment on the directions. I too have done the same thing in the past and gone around in circles!
Glad Cleofas was good for you. I didn't see that stunner Bulgarian at Fontana. Might be worth another trip out there to take another look not least as Evie sounds a blast! Great report. Entertaining, informative, helpful for others. Even on the restaurant which I've not tried but will do so. Many thanks.
What a great report. Thanks! I howled laughing at your comment on the directions. I too have done the same thing in the past and gone around in circles!
Glad Cleofas was good for you. I didn't see that stunner Bulgarian at Fontana. Might be worth another trip out there to take another look not least as Evie sounds a blast! Great report. Entertaining, informative, helpful for others. Even on the restaurant which I've not tried but will do so. Many thanks.You and others have added a ton of information to the forum. I wouldn't have ventured out if not for the body of knowledge in this thread.
A couple of comments. The "Bulgarian", who's about 5'5" (165 cm), dark haired and fair skinned, may not be Bulgarian. That's what Evie and Laisa told me, when they figured I was more interested in her than them. That was after I told them the Bulgarians were annoying me. Also Evie doesn't like to kiss. She does however like to suck dick and shove large objects up peoples' asses.
Yeah, actually Evie might be able to grow on me. I might see her again if I'm in the area and she's around.
So here I am posting at 2 am again. Jummy1 will be furious!
Terrific night in Scandalos. I have a new tactic entirely. Instead of the silly prices 250 or 200/ hour and the absolutely crazy 30 per hour for the room, you take the chicas out to Malaga Nostrum. It is 50 e to take a girl out.
I had a fabulous time in the club. Lots of favourites present including Melissa (Brazilian stunner) busy most of the night, Carol (her birthday tonight) gym body. Amazing six pack and her pretty short friend Louisa. Again both Brazilian as were most of the girls.
Ana Maria. My fav Romanian in the club. Blonde - great body and had a fabulous 2 hours with her last year. Occupied all night.
I ended up taking Mayte and Anna (both blonde Romanians) out of the club.
I won't say what happened, whether the service was great or not, how much it all cost, as Jummy1 will say I am being sanctimonious or even salivating after the event. LOL!
Anyway. Great options in the hideously priced Scandalos unless you get an idea on how to make it financially worth it.
You take a girl out for 50 e. Take her to the bar at MN. Drinks normal prices, up to the room. Now she is free of the club she can negotiate her own price.
Let's just say I had a memorable threesome for not much more than it would have cost me in E92. Scanadalos pricing structure either needs to change or they will realise soon enough that most punters will find away around it.Great report,
How many were working? And have you checked out selecta yet?
This has been one bizarre day. It was practically raining sand this afternoon. The sky was some shade of brownish pink straight out of a bad science fiction movie and visibility progressively got worse and worse. A storm had carried a ton of dirt from the Sahara and dumped it all over everything. A local told me this happens from time to time, but this was the worst he'd ever seen. I'd been walking around in the rain and my clothes were filthy. So I figured I looked too ragged for Fontana, and that left only one option: Cleofas.
I got there about 5:30 PM and there were 5 women there. None were particularly attractive, but one Dominican named Sirena (I think) had huge tata's and kind of did it for me. So I contracted with her for an hour for 130 EUR. Service was great and she was fun to talk to. She told me there were only 5 women who worked there, being 3 Dominicanas, one espanola and one woman from Turkey. Anyway if you want some action in the afternoon, after 5:00 PM when they open, and you're not too picky, this might be a happy hunting ground.
So afterwards it was time to find a good place to eat. I ended up at Restaurante Cortijo Guadacorte, a short distance from Fontana. The appetizer, a salad of tomato, avocado and tuna drenched in olive oil, was world class. The baked fish was good.
Aside: I couldn't figure out for the life of me why PayForIt gave me ridiculously detailed instructions how to get to Fontana. Didn't he figure I'd just dial Hotel Guadacorte Park into my GPS? What kind of fool does he think I am? Well, what I discovered is that PayForIt is a wise man, and I'm a dumb ass. I discovered you can spend endless time taking the wrong exit off of roundabouts and going in circles up and down Highway A7. Next time I'm going to memorize PayForIt's directions.
After Restaurante Cortijo Guadacorte, with some difficulty, I ended up at Hotel Guadacorte Park. They had a room available for $65. I took it, cleaned up, and headed over on foot to Fontana.
My initial impression was very negative. The Eastern European women, apparently mostly Bulgarians, with a couple of Romanians, are fucking sharks. They wouldn't leave me alone even after I'd politely ask them to get lost. I actually started to walk out of the club after about 5 minutes, and on the way out one of the women talked me into coming back. I was next accosted by a Venezuelan who was a bit more courteous than the Bulgarians. She maybe was in her late 30's, but still had a kick ass body. Her name was Evie. She introduces me to her attractive friend Laisa. Evie starts putting the hard sell on me. $250 for both of them for 40 minutes. She tells me all the perverted things they're going to do with me. When she figures I'm not interested she offers her friend for an hour for $250. I said what's the deal, it's only $180. She says no, it hasn't been $180 in a long time. I say OK, I'm going to look around some more. She says OK, my friend Laisa will spend an hour with you for $200.
So off we go. When we go to get a room, Laisa tells the attendant something about Evie. When we're naked and about to do the deed, Evie walks in, throws off her clothes, and starts going down on me. Anyway she succeeded in getting me agree to go for both of them, $200 a piece, for an hour.
Evie trots off and then comes back with her bag of toys. She lays about 5 giant dildos out on the bed, and says she likes to get fucked in the ass, but the dildos are for me. No fucking way! I tell her you're not shoving one of those up my ass. She says but the Spaniards like it. Well, fine, I don't. Then she asks if I want some cocaine, gratis. Actually when I told one of the Bulgarians to buzz off earlier she also asked me if I wanted some. Anyway no to that too.
I ended up directing the two women and had a reasonably good time. Laisa was annoying as hell when we were doing the deed though, because she kept her fingers around the condom while I was fucking her. I'd heard of women doing that before but figured it was some kind of urban legend. Now I can attest it happens in real life.
Evie was perverted as hell, but she only wanted me to enter her doggie style or do her in the ass. Finally she relented and got on top though.
After about 45 minutes the festivities came to an end and we parted. I guess I should have gone for the $250 for 2 women for 40 minutes deal. It would have been $150 cheaper than what I paid.
Would I go back to the place? I'm not sure. Like I think PayForIt said, it's out of the way, not close to much of anything, and it wasn't exactly a world class experience for me. There was one Bulgarian who was drop dead gorgeous. And a number of the women were doable.Nice report,
Do report back should you visit again.
Firstly, there's two reasons to do this. If you're providing entertainment people normally would pay for. To ration entry by price if you're running close to capacity. You don't want freeloaders shutting out your paying customers. Neither of these generally apply at puticlubs. If it was the latter you'd charge entry at discretion.
They do it so they're guaranteed to get some money out of the punter whether he stays or not. Yes I know it covers a drink from the bar. It's still money. If your punter enters the club & decides he'd rather not stay, he resents being fleeced. Being obliged to stay & drink to recover his outlay increases the resentment. You now have a punter who probably won't revisit your club & may badmouth it to his mates.
Freeloaders aren't really a problem. Maybe they're not a freeloader & just wanted a girl. The girls will take care of the genuine freeloaders for you. They'll know a guy standing without a drink in his hand probably is & will give him minimal attention. They'll end up being blanked. Blanked, they don't hang around very long.
This is basic stuff in the entertainment industry. Everybody knows it. Except the managements of puti clubs.The thing is scandalo is looking for rich guys, that's why it decides to charge an entry fee so young annoying men who have no money / or intention to spend that money from coming in and causing problems, estark does not charge that, and I have seen that sometimes these stupid young guys as you said come in and don't even buy a drink and sit and hang around there for an hour or so.
Great report,
How many were working? And have you checked out selecta yet?Haven't been to Selecta and doubt I will visit. Scandalous was fairly busy with a lot of eye candy options. But I've had enough of sand skies, torrential rain and I'm off back to sunny climes for a month. Cut short my stay. Spain is a miserable country when the sun don't shine! In the middle of buying property in Dubai and can see my days on the CDS fast coming to a huge reduction / odd visit if not the end.
Andalus Expat
03-26-22, 10:25
The thing is scandalo is looking for rich guys, that's why it decides to charge an entry fee so young annoying men who have no money / or intention to spend that money from coming in and causing problems, estark does not charge that, and I have seen that sometimes these stupid young guys as you said come in and don't even buy a drink and sit and hang around there for an hour or so.That's not going to work, Qazwsx5. It's the price of a drink. The beach bar at Puerto Banus does (did?) that with it's August all dayer. But that's 100 euros. Although, no doubt they just wave in the be list sleb "faces" But if you're pitching at exclusivity, you just don't do that. The sort of punters you're pitching at don't like having to go through their pockets for small notes like a kid outside a disco. Not quite the same sort of entertainment but I know Annabels, The Gardens & Crockfords in London. They don't charge at the door. If you're not their sort of people, you just don't get in.
That's why I was so interested in the money movement in there. It doesn't offer anything to interest the wealthy. It's a bar in a two star hotel on an industrial estate.
For up market look at this place. https://www.instagram.com/elthemple/?hl=en I went there just after it opened, shortly before Coronavirus hit. That's my style. I'll have to try it again. The lockdown etc knocked it back but they seem to have got it fired up again. Hope the girls are as good as before. Otherwise Milady's at Marbella. Expensive, but they do make you feel welcome and they don't demand you remove your hat at the door!
That's not going to work, Qazwsx5. It's the price of a drink. The beach bar at Puerto Banus does (did?) that with it's August all dayer. But that's 100 euros. Although, no doubt they just wave in the be list sleb "faces" But if you're pitching at exclusivity, you just don't do that. The sort of punters you're pitching at don't like having to go through their pockets for small notes like a kid outside a disco. Not quite the same sort of entertainment but I know Annabels, The Gardens & Crockfords in London. They don't charge at the door. If you're not their sort of people, you just don't get in.
That's why I was so interested in the money movement in there. It doesn't offer anything to interest the wealthy. It's a bar in a two star hotel on an industrial estate.
For up market look at this place. https://www.instagram.com/elthemple/?hl=en I went there just after it opened, shortly before Coronavirus hit. That's my style. I'll have to try it again. The lockdown etc knocked it back but they seem to have got it fired up again. Hope the girls are as good as before. Otherwise Milady's at Marbella. Expensive, but they do make you feel welcome and they don't demand you remove your hat at the door!Exactly, you are right Annabels and etc do not charge 10 e entrance (they charge a few 1000 for the membership) but there is one big difference, look at milady, they don't charge anything at the door and as you rightly say, you don't get in if you are not their type. But why? Because milady is in sierra blanca marbella, a middle class person has nothing to do there, people with no money just do not hang around that area, so milday doesn't need to charge anything at the door, because people who go there have money and are not there to waste girls time. Whereas scandalo is in an industrial zone of malaga, there are many workers and low income people around there, who clearly have no intention of paying 300 e an hour (they can't afford it) , I know 10 e is nothing, but for many people around there whose only intention is to go in and have a look is a problem, because their brain works differently, they know that with that 10 e they can get one of the street worker around scandalo (I think they only charge 20,30 full service) , so that 10 euro makes many of those guys to go away and not enter scandalo. If scandalo did not charge that 10, I am sure many guys who work around there go to scandalo after their work just to have a look and etc.
Location is super important.
Haven't been to Selecta and doubt I will visit. Scandalous was fairly busy with a lot of eye candy options. But I've had enough of sand skies, torrential rain and I'm off back to sunny climes for a month. Cut short my stay. Spain is a miserable country when the sun don't shine! In the middle of buying property in Dubai and can see my days on the CDS fast coming to a huge reduction / odd visit if not the end.Even tho Dubai is nice but doesn't get close to CDS IMHO, after a while it gets very boring there, and the heat is unbearable, I hate having to have AC on all the time. I'm sure you will spend lots of time on the coast pretty soon. I'm hearing that many new ones are coming to the coast this year, after two years of problems and pandemics, this is going to be the first normal summer, you shouldn't miss it.
Even tho Dubai is nice but doesn't get close to CDS IMHO, after a while it gets very boring there, and the heat is unbearable, I hate having to have AC on all the time. I'm sure you will spend lots of time on the coast pretty soon. I'm hearing that many new ones are coming to the coast this year, after two years of problems and pandemics, this is going to be the first normal summer, you shouldn't miss it.Oh I have no intention os spending the crazy hottest months there, but then I mostly don't like CDS in July and August when there are far too many people, the traffic is mayhem and it's too hot. But during months when Europe has poor weather. Recently awful for 3 weeks on CDS / Germany freezing etc, Dubai is a great escape and the mongering options are plentiful. I like the "clubs" being bars at top hotels. Be it Jules, Red Square, Hyatt or New York bar. Great choices in Dubai.
I have heard similar talk of an influx of new girls. No doubt Ukrainians, (sad for them). But as it is there are too many girls for men so competition will kill off many. Was due to return to CDS on Friday but cancelled. Just not feeling it for there at the moment.
Even tho Dubai is nice but doesn't get close to CDS IMHO, after a while it gets very boring there, and the heat is unbearable, I hate having to have AC on all the time. I'm sure you will spend lots of time on the coast pretty soon. I'm hearing that many new ones are coming to the coast this year, after two years of problems and pandemics, this is going to be the first normal summer, you shouldn't miss it.The pussy is also too expensive in Dubai. I liked the variety of nationalities, but the place (including the pussy) is too much for what you get IMHO.
The pussy is also too expensive in Dubai. I liked the variety of nationalities, but the place (including the pussy) is too much for what you get IMHO.Cannot argue with the price point. Was in Moscow / Red Sq last Wednesday and Thursday and whilst it is possible to get below 1000 dirhams / hour (about 220 euros), the best looking girls are asking 2000 (LT). It's actually not that bad for all night. - under 500 euros and even in E92 the going rate for all night is 800 euros. But whereas you can get standard 150 girls in E92 in CDS, and 200 for two hours in Estark Diana Plus in Madrid, you don't get much in UAE for less that 1000 dhms / hour.
But then the variety of nationalities is SO much greater than CDS or FKKs and better than in Thailand. As well as the African girls (some fabulous Eritreans this week) and EE, Latinas, Russians, PRCs there are also many Middle Eastern. Had a great session on Thursday with an Uzbeki girl. (I don't ever post about UAE in that forum for several reasons including mainly legal issues. Also whilst it was two nights before they technically started Ramadan until Saturday it is better to be respectful).
So yes. Value for money isn't great but the quality is not far off Vive Madrid and the level of diversity is a really nice change. Back to Europe today (not Spain) for a couple of weeks for work so I'll miss that diversity!
Andalus Expat
04-04-22, 15:50
Exactly, you are right Annabels and etc do not charge 10 e entrance (they charge a few 1000 for the membership) but there is one big difference, look at milady, they don't charge anything at the door and as you rightly say, you don't get in if you are not their type. But why? Because milady is in sierra blanca marbella, a middle class person has nothing to do there, people with no money just do not hang around that area, so milday doesn't need to charge anything at the door, because people who go there have money and are not there to waste girls time. Whereas scandalo is in an industrial zone of malaga, there are many workers and low income people around there, who clearly have no intention of paying 300 e an hour (they can't afford it) , I know 10 e is nothing, but for many people around there whose only intention is to go in and have a look is a problem, because their brain works differently, they know that with that 10 e they can get one of the street worker around scandalo (I think they only charge 20,30 full service) , so that 10 euro makes many of those guys to go away and not enter scandalo. If scandalo did not charge that 10, I am sure many guys who work around there go to scandalo after their work just to have a look and etc..You do rather put the place into perspective Quazwsx5. It's not somewhere I'd relish leaving the car outside with the roof down.
Just been to 92 after 6 month break, went in about 8 pm, quite dead. There was that one sexy Dominican with a tight body and hair up, been with her before but she rushed it like mad, was thinking of going up again but she was proper pushy.
Banged this Viviana who I've been with before, body is average but face is cute plus she gives like a 20 min massage, my first ejaculate is always less than 10 min so doesn't feel like I've wasted loads.
Other talent was ok but not like another report further down described as loads of hotties. Smashed one unreaaaal Brazilian called tati (used to work in scandalo) she had a beauty face banging body, amazing energy in the room, had a full 30 minutes, was scared I wasn't going to cum but I managed To in the end. BBBJ DATY the lot.
Ina not working on Mondays but I'll catch her before I leave in a week or two.
Overall left with a smile on my face, but other than usual faces only one or two that I would of banged.
Just been to 92 after 6 month break, went in about 8 pm, quite dead. There was that one sexy Dominican with a tight body and hair up, been with her before but she rushed it like mad, was thinking of going up again but she was proper pushy.
Banged this Viviana who I've been with before, body is average but face is cute plus she gives like a 20 min massage, my first ejaculate is always less than 10 min so doesn't feel like I've wasted loads.
Other talent was ok but not like another report further down described as loads of hotties. Smashed one unreaaaal Brazilian called tati (used to work in scandalo) she had a beauty face banging body, amazing energy in the room, had a full 30 minutes, was scared I wasn't going to cum but I managed To in the end. BBBJ DATY the lot.
Ina not working on Mondays but I'll catch her before I leave in a week or two.
Overall left with a smile on my face, but other than usual faces only one or two that I would of banged.Thanks for the report. 8 pm is pretty early in my experience. You do get girls in the bar. And even much earlier than that. But options don't really improve until 11 pm. Glad you ended up happy. I don't know Viviana but wonder if the girl with the tight body is Camilla. She wears hair in a bob or curly (down) - great body, pretty enough, great body. But definitey Cuban not from DR.
Suspect you will find Mondays are generally not a good night. The problem is that the most popular girls, like Ina, like one or two days off minium and they can afford it, particulary if they have had a good weekend and earned enough. Last time I was there one of the favourites told me she was on a roll. Had made 3000 euros two weekends running so had not worked Monday-Wednesdays the following two weeks.
It is obviously a bit hit and miss and some of the main girls left due to the abysmal weather but will be back after Orthodox Easter (24th April).
By way of pure coincidence, I am in Dubai and went to New York Hotel bar 2 nights ago, was tapped on the shoulder whilst talking to a pretty Ukranian and low and behold it was Sabrina. Pretty Brazillian from Scandalos I have been with many times there. I couldn't resist even though she initally wanted 2000 AED (about 500 euros) for 2 hours (which in fairness is about the same as in Scandalos now). Got her down to 1500/375 euros for 2 hours. So cheaper than Scandalos and no nonsense about early call from the reception (really annoying) as it is very much girl back to room in Dubai. But that is exactly what I did last time in Scandalos. And learned that they are happy to do this (still) and charge less.
Hope your next trip / visit to Ina is successful.
Now that the weather has at least started to pick up and bit, and work permitting, I am hoping to return to CDS early May.
By way of pure coincidence, I am in Dubai and went to New York Hotel bar 2 nights ago, was tapped on the shoulder whilst talking to a pretty Ukranian and low and behold it was Sabrina. Pretty Brazillian from Scandalos I have been with many times there. I couldn't resist even though she initally wanted 2000 AED (about 500 euros) for 2 hours (which in fairness is about the same as in Scandalos now). Got her down to 1500/375 euros for 2 hours. So cheaper than Scandalos and no nonsense about early call from the reception (really annoying) as it is very much girl back to room in Dubai. But that is exactly what I did last time in Scandalos. And learned that they are happy to do this (still) and charge less.That's pretty interesting there PFI. That has never happened to me. To meet a girl I did in one country in a totally different country. I have bumped into the same girl in different cities, but it was still within the same country.
That's pretty interesting there PFI. That has never happened to me. To meet a girl I did in one country in a totally different country. I have bumped into the same girl in different cities, but it was still within the same country.Unbelieveably 2nd time for me. Many years ago on my very first trip to FKK Harmony (Hamburg) I was stood in the bar telling a young girl I didn't know anyone in the club as this was my first trip to that particular FKK (having been to a lot of others) when I hear a shreik and "babeeeeeeeeeeeee" - a girl I knew from manchester 2 years earlier! Incredible.
Just been to 92 after 6 month break, went in about 8 pm, quite dead. There was that one sexy Dominican with a tight body and hair up, been with her before but she rushed it like mad, was thinking of going up again but she was proper pushy.
Banged this Viviana who I've been with before, body is average but face is cute plus she gives like a 20 min massage, my first ejaculate is always less than 10 min so doesn't feel like I've wasted loads.
Other talent was ok but not like another report further down described as loads of hotties. Smashed one unreaaaal Brazilian called tati (used to work in scandalo) she had a beauty face banging body, amazing energy in the room, had a full 30 minutes, was scared I wasn't going to cum but I managed To in the end. BBBJ DATY the lot.
Ina not working on Mondays but I'll catch her before I leave in a week or two.
Overall left with a smile on my face, but other than usual faces only one or two that I would of banged.Who is tati? Blonde or bru?
So not been to the club for quite some time, maybe 5 or 6 years, Monday nights about 9:00 pm Probably about 20 girls in the whole of the club, the main section and the casino and about three punters. On my return not knowing any of the girls I thought I would RTFF, I had a few names in mind from a previous report from PFI, Ina, Elana, Veronica etc however, none of these girls were in the club apparently. Yeah, whatever. So decided to go with a Moldovan girl. Very pretty long black hair black dress looked very classy, a little bit chunkier than I would normally go for, her name was Alina, unfortunately, not a very good service. Really mechanical average at best, definitely would not repeat. In the bar afterwards spoke to two different girls. Not sure if they were the same girls previously recommended by PFI, Maria, blonde very nice, little bit heavier than I would normally go for but didn't have a bob was shoulder length hair, Alicia, also very nice wore glasses curly mousey color hair, not blond! Not sure if these were the girls that were recommended. When I was leaving about 11:00, quite a few more girls enter in the club. Also a lot of the girls I spoke to that evening were quoting prices of 100 and 200 for the hour. They said prices had gone up, and yes, I know I wasn't familiar to any of the girls, but I made it quite clear that I was a long time punter. Anyway, I will be returning in the next day or two and will report my findings, if anyone has any recommendations it would be appreciated. Cheers, 95!
So not been to the club for quite some time, maybe 5 or 6 years, Monday nights about 9:00 pm Probably about 20 girls in the whole of the club, the main section and the casino and about three punters. On my return not knowing any of the girls I thought I would RTFF, I had a few names in mind from a previous report from PFI, Ina, Elana, Veronica etc however, none of these girls were in the club apparently. Yeah, whatever. So decided to go with a Moldovan girl. Very pretty long black hair black dress looked very classy, a little bit chunkier than I would normally go for, her name was Alina, unfortunately, not a very good service. Really mechanical average at best, definitely would not repeat. In the bar afterwards spoke to two different girls. Not sure if they were the same girls previously recommended by PFI, Maria, blonde very nice, little bit heavier than I would normally go for but didn't have a bob was shoulder length hair, Alicia, also very nice wore glasses curly mousey color hair, not blond! Not sure if these were the girls that were recommended. When I was leaving about 11:00, quite a few more girls enter in the club. Also a lot of the girls I spoke to that evening were quoting prices of 100 and 200 for the hour. They said prices had gone up, and yes, I know I wasn't familiar to any of the girls, but I made it quite clear that I was a long time punter. Anyway, I will be returning in the next day or two and will report my findings, if anyone has any recommendations it would be appreciated. Cheers, 95!Hi and thanks for your report. 9 pm is of course a little early for the main line up and as you say 11 pm is busier. Bit odd that Ina, Veronica, the two Monicas and Elena were not in the bar. I say odd because I spoke to two of them yesterday to find out their plans for Orthodox Easter (when a lot of EE girls return home) and they are all working up to this Friday. That said, if the best girls have good Thursday to Saturdays they will often take Sunday and / or Monday nights off.
I think I know who Alina is but I have not been to the room with her. Maria (if the same) is blonde and nearly always has a bob. Though (a) I haven't been in the club since March whilst I have been in Dubai and (b) she does occasionally wear her hair down though I have never seen her anything but blonde. There are now three Alicia's in the club, not helpful, the blonde one has long curly hair so doesn't sound like her.
Would be interested to know if the older black girl Jihara is back (great body). Olimpia has a great body if she is not the most stunning and gives great service. Stephanie, brunettes, is pretty with great body. Always difficult to make 100% recommendations as everyone's tastes are different but definitely ask if Ina is working (even if later). She and Veronica give great service and Ina is tall, slim, elegant blonde and many guys who post about her are very complimentary.
Hope you enjoy your next visit and look forward to your further report.
Well thanks to PayForIt and other posters here I had a memorable trip to cathouses on the western end of the Costa del Sol a few weeks ago. So I'm back for more advice from the Costa del Sol Brain Trust.
Some questions about Scandalo,
1. What's the earliest you'd go on a Saturday night, hoping to find a decent selection of women?
2. What should a punter pay for some time with one of the more attractive women? I'm seeing numbers here from 200 EUR to 300 EUR per hour. Also is the 30 EUR room fee in addition to what you're paying the woman?
3. Is there any problem getting a taxi or an Uber from Scandalo back to your hotel?
Thanks in advance!
Well thanks to PayForIt and other posters here I had a memorable trip to cathouses on the western end of the Costa del Sol a few weeks ago. So I'm back for more advice from the Costa del Sol Brain Trust.
Some questions about Scandalo,
1. What's the earliest you'd go on a Saturday night, hoping to find a decent selection of women?
2. What should a punter pay for some time with one of the more attractive women? I'm seeing numbers here from 200 EUR to 300 EUR per hour. Also is the 30 EUR room fee in addition to what you're paying the woman?
3. Is there any problem getting a taxi or an Uber from Scandalo back to your hotel?
Thanks in advance!Hi Tiny12 - so answers:
1. No earlier than 11 pm but the LU improves between 11.30 and midnight.
2. You will get quoted 250/ HR by everyone, some more. But they will all negotiate. Saturday is not the best night for negotiation as there will be a lot of punters so the girls can afford to wait until someone bites at the bigger fees. My last trip there I took two girls out to Malaga Nostrum for 200 per hour each. The best looking girls will want 250/ HR and a 50 lady drink.
3. No problems with taxi but never tried uber from the club. Depending where your staying you might want to offer to take the girl out. It is cheaper!
Have fun and please report back on the fun you do have!
Hi Tiny12 - so answers:
1. No earlier than 11 pm but the LU improves between 11.30 and midnight.
2. You will get quoted 250/ HR by everyone, some more. But they will all negotiate. Saturday is not the best night for negotiation as there will be a lot of punters so the girls can afford to wait until someone bites at the bigger fees. My last trip there I took two girls out to Malaga Nostrum for 200 per hour each. The best looking girls will want 250/ HR and a 50 lady drink.
3. No problems with taxi but never tried uber from the club. Depending where your staying you might want to offer to take the girl out. It is cheaper!
Have fun and please report back on the fun you do have!Thanks again PayForIt. More good info!
Thanks again PayForIt. More good info!No problem and apologies. I forgot to answer one other query you raised which was about the 30 euros for towels. Isn't psychology strange? If a girl told me her price was 250 but she will pay the room fee of 30 I might bite if she was really attractive and I wanted her. So I've paid 220/ hour. But if she told me her price was 200 and I had to pay the room fee (so 230/ hour) I would be pissed off. It's not the 10 euros. Which doesn't even buy you a beer now in the club, it is the principle of being ripped off for the stupid 30 room fee. I know 200 is not a rip off price for the hour for the girl now in this club, so that hasn't annoyed, but being forced to pay 30 for a towel and a condom is just not on.
I don't know if you like longer or short rooms. I like 2 hour rooms. I find acceptance from every girl in Scandalos I proposition with 2 hours for 400 and they pay the 30 room fee. I think they are willing to accept the reduction for a guaranteed 400 (which smashes through their 75 daily fee to the club for accommodation). I might also throw in a girl drink at the bar (a crazy 50) as it sets a good tone for the evening to chill, sit and talk for a bit, knowing that the negotiation / money talk is over. Ok it means I'm actually paying 450 for 2 hours, but I can live with that knowing that I'm in for a great time, got the girl onside with guaranteed time and a drink, she's make an extra 25 so now she is thinking that she's made 425 out of which she'll lose 30 for the room but better than her accepting 370 (the 400 agreed less room fee) so the feel good factor is there and the party can roll.
All very silly of course and for sure there are many who would justifiably say that these sorts of figures for 2 hours with a girl are crazy when you can get independent escorts who will do 1 hour for 100 euros so your two hours costs you 200 not 450 plus your own drinks. But then you have the girl in front of you, no bait and switch, interview about services completed, and you can see what you are buying and have had the fun of choosing from many in a LU. It's for those reasons I much prefer the clubs over the risk of bait and switch with independent escorts from websites. It's more expensive in the clubs without question, but ultimately if it is a question of just needing to off a load, an escort might be ok (in fact I then prefer an erotic massage) but if it is sex with a really attractive girl, for me, the clubs take some beating.
No problem and apologies. I forgot to answer one other query you raised which was about the 30 euros for towels. Isn't psychology strange? If a girl told me her price was 250 but she will pay the room fee of 30 I might bite if she was really attractive and I wanted her. So I've paid 220/ hour. But if she told me her price was 200 and I had to pay the room fee (so 230/ hour) I would be pissed off. It's not the 10 euros. Which doesn't even buy you a beer now in the club, it is the principle of being ripped off for the stupid 30 room fee. I know 200 is not a rip off price for the hour for the girl now in this club, so that hasn't annoyed, but being forced to pay 30 for a towel and a condom is just not on.
I don't know if you like longer or short rooms. I like 2 hour rooms. I find acceptance from every girl in Scandalos I proposition with 2 hours for 400 and they pay the 30 room fee. I think they are willing to accept the reduction for a guaranteed 400 (which smashes through their 75 daily fee to the club for accommodation). I might also throw in a girl drink at the bar (a crazy 50) as it sets a good tone for the evening to chill, sit and talk for a bit, knowing that the negotiation / money talk is over. Ok it means I'm actually paying 450 for 2 hours, but I can live with that knowing that I'm in for a great time, got the girl onside with guaranteed time and a drink, she's make an extra 25 so now she is thinking that she's made 425 out of which she'll lose 30 for the room but better than her accepting 370 (the 400 agreed less room fee) so the feel good factor is there and the party can roll.
All very silly of course and for sure there are many who would justifiably say that these sorts of figures for 2 hours with a girl are crazy when you can get independent escorts who will do 1 hour for 100 euros so your two hours costs you 200 not 450 plus your own drinks. But then you have the girl in front of you, no bait and switch, interview about services completed, and you can see what you are buying and have had the fun of choosing from many in a LU. It's for those reasons I much prefer the clubs over the risk of bait and switch with independent escorts from websites. It's more expensive in the clubs without question, but ultimately if it is a question of just needing to off a load, an escort might be ok (in fact I then prefer an erotic massage) but if it is sex with a really attractive girl, for me, the clubs take some beating.Do you know the girl, brunette, long girl, slim with a tattoo on the back of her leg, above heel and lower than the knee in estark? Does anyone know her?
Do you know the girl, brunette, long girl, slim with a tattoo on the back of her leg, above heel and lower than the knee in estark? Does anyone know her?She doesn't sound familiar to me. Is she new or recently arrived? If not I'm really struggling to think of who this could be.
She doesn't sound familiar to me. Is she new or recently arrived? If not I'm really struggling to think of who this could be.Should be new I guess, saw her for the first time a few days ago. Seemed to be a great one.
Should be new I guess, saw her for the first time a few days ago. Seemed to be a great one.Hoping to get there very soon maybe even this weekend so I'll check her out then. Bad timing (my arrival) as I know several of the girls are gone for Orthodox Easter and are not returning until May 3rd but had to return to deal with some business in Gibraltar. So no reason not to enjoy the delights of the CDS at the same time. Even if the LU will be reduced (in terms of EE girls).
At the risk of causing annoyance at posting late in the early hours after a visit to a club (once described stupidly as "salivating" over the events of the evening) here is a report on the current position at E92 having visited (last) night and tonight!
Reliably informed (by Ina who does not talk bull) that there are now 100+ girls paying or nightly accommodation at E92. Verified this on reception (Sandra purple hair). The club has not had this many girls since 2014.
Some things at E92 have changed. (1) there is now a very large proportion of girls from South America. Many from Scandalos but also many not. Spoke to probably 6 or 7 of them. They say that they cannot get more than one punter per night (if lucky) at Scandalos not least because of the crazy pricing and towels policy. Result is they are voting with their feet. (2) pricing at E92 has changed. Whilst many girls WILL still do 150/ hour there are a lot who insist on 200/ hour. By the end of this summer I expect everyone to be at the new 200/ HR price. As ever, the girls will negotiate for longer time.
Many girls absent for Orthodox Easter but still many favourites and. A lot of attractive new girls in the club. At midnight there must have been 80 punters and at least that many girls in the bar. Any notion of the club not surviving post pandemic (see previous doom and gloom predictions) is hopelessly misconceived. The place is rocking. Ok for sure the weather has (marginally) improved, but it is more than that. No shortage of punters spending money and girls taking it. Christina (ex Scandalos) was like a yo yo in and out of rooms and must have made 2000 in the night easily. Monika (not the sultry slim brunette but the other with great boobs) kept flashing her tits for all to see. And they are terrific!
Maria, back after having a baby, looked very good. Bianca looked classy in long red dress. No Veronica, Alicia, Olimpia, Nicole, Elena. All home for O Easter. Spent 1 hour in the bar then 2 hours in the room with the stunning Ina. What an absolute beauty inside and out. Never had a bad room and she gives 100% and I will definitely repeat.
Shame about hike in prices and some of the less pretty girls will hang on to 150/ hour but for majority that's now gone.
Andalus Expat
04-30-22, 12:47
Christina (ex Scandalos) was like a yo yo in and out of rooms and must have made 2000 in the night easily.Read your latest report with considerable amusement, PayForIt. You must have had a few drinks in the club. How would your startlingly successful friend make 2000 euros in a night? At 200 an hour, that's ten clients for an hour, back to back, each. 10 hours. And you've said yourself in a recent post the club doesn't get busy until after 11. She taking them upstairs in groups? And that doesn't allow for time to get a shower between clients & the time required to schmooze them in the bar. In any case, the majority of club clients are what the girls refer to as basura. They can't afford any more than half an hour. She's certainly not picking up the money on drinks at a pony a time. The time spent ordering them would eat into work time. And particularly funny because I had a couple of club girls sitting here when I was reading it. We'd spent the evening in the Brasil pena at the Feria Internacional & they stayed here after. One of them you probably know. Julia, blonde brasilena from Scandalos now has an apartment in Benalmadena. Although I haven't a clue what her work-name is. And a great time was had. Caipirinhas flowed like water. Saw faces I hadn't seen for a couple of years. Too many to number. What you're saying just doesn't agree with what they are. There isn't the money around that there was pre-Covid & it wasn't particularly good then.
Here's some adverts from outside your club scene:
https://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/griego-trios-salidas-fiestas-desde-30-548295136.htm
https://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/las-mejores-chicas-de-la-costa-del-sol-543677219.htm
From 30 euros. Been a while since we've seen that. That's possibly for 20 minutes but girls don't like doing 20 minute tricks. They're the same work as half hour but less money. And for the girl that may only be 15 euros. But if it gets a client in, she eats today.
https://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/naomy-trato-de-novios-masajes-eroticos-553671553.htm
Outcall 100 euros. Wasn't long ago you wouldn't find any girl doing outcalls for less than 150.
https://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/rocio-tu-chica-fiestera-150-3-h-sin-pri-553680855.htm
There's several girls been offering this sort of deal or similar. You didn't believe I could get girls for 50 an hour? I was just a little bit ahead of the field. Pays knowing what you're doing. Again, it's worth them doing this rather than sitting waiting for a phone not to ring.
Oh I can quite believe Estark's girls are trying it on at 200. Clubs attract a high incidence of mug punters. And they'll try & screw as much as they can out of the mugs. But it always comes down to what they're actually earning. However, well done to Estark for getting its rooms rented. That's how it makes its money & the girls aren't much brighter than the punters. Apparently the grass is being regarded as greener on the CDS at the moment. There's certainly an awful lot of girls have shown up here. Great for punters, though.
Read your latest report with considerable amusement, PayForIt. You must have had a few drinks in the club. How would your startlingly successful friend make 2000 euros in a night? At 200 an hour, that's ten clients for an hour, back to back, each. 10 hours. And you've said yourself in a recent post the club doesn't get busy until after 11. She taking them upstairs in groups? And that doesn't allow for time to get a shower between clients & the time required to schmooze them in the bar. In any case, the majority of club clients are what the girls refer to as basura. They can't afford any more than half an hour. She's certainly not picking up the money on drinks at a pony a time. The time spent ordering them would eat into work time. And particularly funny because I had a couple of club girls sitting here when I was reading it. We'd spent the evening in the Brasil pena at the Feria Internacional & they stayed here after. One of them you probably know. Julia, blonde brasilena from Scandalos now has an apartment in Benalmadena. Although I haven't a clue what her work-name is. And a great time was had. Caipirinhas flowed like water. Saw faces I hadn't seen for a couple of years. Too many to number. What you're saying just doesn't agree with what they are. There isn't the money around that there was pre-Covid & it wasn't particularly good then.
Here's some adverts from outside your club scene:
https://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/griego-trios-salidas-fiestas-desde-30-548295136.htm
https://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/las-mejores-chicas-de-la-costa-del-sol-543677219.htm
From 30 euros. Been a while since we've seen that. That's possibly for 20 minutes but girls don't like doing 20 minute tricks. They're the same work as half hour but less money. And for the girl that may only be 15 euros. But if it gets a client in, she eats today.
https://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/naomy-trato-de-novios-masajes-eroticos-553671553.htm
Outcall 100 euros. Wasn't long ago you wouldn't find any girl doing outcalls for less than 150.
https://www.pasion.com/contactos-mujeres/rocio-tu-chica-fiestera-150-3-h-sin-pri-553680855.htm
There's several girls been offering this sort of deal or similar. You didn't believe I could get girls for 50 an hour? I was just a little bit ahead of the field. Pays knowing what you're doing. Again, it's worth them doing this rather than sitting waiting for a phone not to ring.
Oh I can quite believe Estark's girls are trying it on at 200. Clubs attract a high incidence of mug punters. And they'll try & screw as much as they can out of the mugs. But it always comes down to what they're actually earning. However, well done to Estark for getting its rooms rented. That's how it makes its money & the girls aren't much brighter than the punters. Apparently the grass is being regarded as greener on the CDS at the moment. There's certainly an awful lot of girls have shown up here. Great for punters, though.Is it possible to pick up girls in feria? If so, which stalls and what time?
At the risk of causing annoyance at posting late in the early hours after a visit to a club (once described stupidly as "salivating" over the events of the evening) here is a report on the current position at E92 having visited (last) night and tonight!
Reliably informed (by Ina who does not talk bull) that there are now 100+ girls paying or nightly accommodation at E92. Verified this on reception (Sandra purple hair). The club has not had this many girls since 2014.
Some things at E92 have changed. (1) there is now a very large proportion of girls from South America. Many from Scandalos but also many not. Spoke to probably 6 or 7 of them. They say that they cannot get more than one punter per night (if lucky) at Scandalos not least because of the crazy pricing and towels policy. Result is they are voting with their feet. (2) pricing at E92 has changed. Whilst many girls WILL still do 150/ hour there are a lot who insist on 200/ hour. By the end of this summer I expect everyone to be at the new 200/ HR price. As ever, the girls will negotiate for longer time.
Many girls absent for Orthodox Easter but still many favourites and. A lot of attractive new girls in the club. At midnight there must have been 80 punters and at least that many girls in the bar. Any notion of the club not surviving post pandemic (see previous doom and gloom predictions) is hopelessly misconceived. The place is rocking. Ok for sure the weather has (marginally) improved, but it is more than that. No shortage of punters spending money and girls taking it. Christina (ex Scandalos) was like a yo yo in and out of rooms and must have made 2000 in the night easily. Monika (not the sultry slim brunette but the other with great boobs) kept flashing her tits for all to see. And they are terrific!
Maria, back after having a baby, looked very good. Bianca looked classy in long red dress. No Veronica, Alicia, Olimpia, Nicole, Elena. All home for O Easter. Spent 1 hour in the bar then 2 hours in the room with the stunning Ina. What an absolute beauty inside and out. Never had a bad room and she gives 100% and I will definitely repeat.
Shame about hike in prices and some of the less pretty girls will hang on to 150/ hour but for majority that's now gone.Very good news. So that means that half an hour is 100 now or more?
Who is christina? What does she look like? Have you ever tried her? Services?
Have fun and please report back on the fun you do have!Reporting back PayForIt. Well, tonight wasn't as entertaining as my trip to Cleofas and Fontana, but a night well spent none the less.
I got to New Scandalo around 11:30 PM. One of the Nigerian bouncers directed me to some kind of machine like what you use to pay for parking in a mall. You insert 50 EUR, and it's supposed to spit back out 35 EUR and a ticket for one drink. The Nigerian fucked up so I ended up with two drink tickets and 20 EUR. He called his boss who was going through some administrative rigamorole to get me back my 15 EUR until I said fuck it, I'll just get two drinks. Problem solved. I'd already been tanking up on liquor before I got there, to avoid paying 15 EUR for drinks, so had a pretty good buzz, especially after slamming down a few more gin and tonics in the club.
A couple of Croatians introduced themselves and I got rid of them without a lot of hassle. Next up was Wendi, fresh off the boat from Medellin. She had just been in Malaga for 5 days and this was her first trip, anywhere. She was excited because she'd never seen the beach or a sea before -- she'd never been to Cartagena, Santa Marta, San Andreas, nowhere. She's in her mid to late twenties and has nicely done store bought breasts, but is not among the hottest women in Scandalo.
Aside: This place has serious talent. I'm a connoisseur of hooker bars, and I can't necessarily say I've ever been in one that had as many hot women as Scandalo on a Saturday night. Brixx in Singapore and La Dolce Vita in Cartagena, Colombia maybe compare. Now I haven't been to the FKK's or Globe or the Scandalo in Sao Paulo (bucket list items), but this place is world class.
There's a saying, it's better to let the woman pick you, and that's what happened with Wendi. We talked about Colombian history and politics over a couple of drinks before heading to the room. She told me it was $150 for 40 minutes or $300 for one hour. My momma didn't raise no fool so I took the 40 minute option.
We get to the cashier and Wendi pays the $35 house fee out of the $150. We had a great time in the room. They called after 30 minutes, and we ended up vacating the room just before 40 minutes had passed so she wouldn't have to pay another $35. Then we retreated to some kind of quieter smoking bar in the Scandalo complex. We talked for a good while longer, with me nursing my last gin and tonic, before we traded WhatsApp info and I headed out. She told me she could spend the day with me sometime, but I'd have to pay the house $300. The reasoning she said is the customer meets the lady at Scandalo's and therefore the establishment deserves a cut. If they see her out on the town with a customer and she didn't pay the $300, then she's fucked. Fair enough, although I'm not sure I'll be forking over the $300.
The Nigerians kindly helped me get a taxi to get back to my hotel, and I literally stumbled back to my room, raising the concern of the people at reception after I fell flat on my face. But I didn't care. I'm in Malaga, I've got a great buzz, and I just got laid! Time to knock down a couple of Aleve (OTC pain killers) and hit the sack.
Thanks again to contributors for the excellent info in this forum which made this night of debauchery possible.
Read your latest report with considerable amusement, PayForIt. You must have had a few drinks in the club. How would your startlingly successful friend make 2000 euros in a night? At 200 an hour, that's ten clients for an hour, back to back, each. 10 hours. I have practically "0" knowledge about whoring around the Costa del Sol compared to you and other regular contributors. But 2000 Euros would not surprise me. I know strippers in the USA who make $1500+ on single nights a few times a month, and they don't even necessarily have to touch a penis. And they're not anywhere as hot as some of the women I saw in Scandalo's this evening. Many men are stupid, especially when they're drunk.
She told me she could spend the day with me sometime, but I'd have to pay the house $300. The reasoning she said is the customer meets the lady at Scandalo's and therefore the establishment deserves a cut.She was BS: ing you. That 300 would go straight in her pocket.
TeddyBears
05-01-22, 12:53
She was BS: ing you. That 300 would go straight in her pocket.I would echo that! If I remember correctly the girls pay 50€ each day to stay at the club, if the girls choose to live outside the club the amount was 25€ to have their spot at the club even those days she doesn't work. These arrangements might have changed over the years? And if you choose to take her out from the club to your hotel or home while she's working then it used to be 50€ to the club.
Maybe PFI has some fresh info on this topic?
She was BS: ing you. That 300 would go straight in her pocket.That crossed my mind. I think PayForIt reported barfining a couple of women from there for the sheet fee one evening and then partying with them for hours at the hotel next door. Also I believe someone reported that you pay the same sheet fee for 30 minutes or 2 hours, so I’m wondering whether they were really going to dock her if we didnt get out of the room after the phone call.
She also told me she could spend a couple of hours during the day eating out or whatever without paying anything. It didn't add up.
She said this was her first time in Spain and she'd only been there 5 days. So maybe it was an honest mistake. Or maybe she's really been there for years and figures a punter's more likely to go to the room with fresh meat.
Very good news. So that means that half an hour is 100 now or more?
Who is christina? What does she look like? Have you ever tried her? Services?I don't do 30 minutes so don't know for sure but I would not be surprised if 100 is correct. Or possibly a bit more to dissuade guys for only taking 30 minutes. Interesting discussion with Ina about prices. She said some of the less attractive girls will do 70/30 minutes. She said that whilst you'the think that was poor in fact they can be up and down to the room many times and some of the girls wonder if they are right to hang out for more.
Christina is really unmissable. She is a blonde spinner. Long blonde (extensions hair), wears bikini in the bar as she has a fabulous body. Facially 9/10 - very pretty. I have been with her in Scandalos but not 92 since I felt she tried to upsell me to 200 last time I was there. But clearly that's no longer correct. I haven't tried to negotiate her to say 350/2 hours. Might give that a whirl next time. Very much optifuk. I don't remember her service being memorable but in honesty I cannot remember the session. Would have been say 3 years ago. Worth another punt given her looks and body.
Andalus Expat
05-01-22, 18:17
Is it possible to pick up girls in feria? If so, which stalls and what time?Entirely possible. Almost unavoidable if one knows a lot of them already. Friday was entirely Brasil but Colombia, Mexico & Paraguay got a visit last night. Back to Brasil tonight. Wear your drinking trousers. It'll end when it ends.
Read your latest report with considerable amusement, PayForIt. You must have had a few drinks in the club. How would your startlingly successful friend make 2000 euros in a night? At 200 an hour, that's ten clients for an hour, back to back, each. 10 hours. And you've said yourself in a recent post the club doesn't get busy until after 11. She taking them upstairs in groups? And that doesn't allow for time to get a shower between clients & the time required to schmooze them in the bar.Glad you enjoyed it. Christina doesn't arrive in the bar at 11. She is one of the earliest in the bar. Around 9 pm. I also know for a fact she has some regulars who "pop in" for an hour during afternoons. She doesn't do the schmoozing. Doesn't need to. Spinner body with not much covering it, pretty face. I described her to Qaz as optifuk. Guys think "wow", approach and often take her instantly. I don't see her needing to approach many guys. On Friday she was lining up the next guy (arranging time) whilst on her way to the door with the current punter!
Plus you are not taking into account three important factors for the best girls in clubs:
1. Most guys give tips - 10 here, 20 there. If the service is good.
2. Many pretty girls take the guy for an hour and he's out after 20 minutes! So she isn't restricted to one an hour.
3. You are ignoring charges for extras. I have no idea if she does anal or CIM but my guess is that if she does either she'll want more for it. Standard in Germany is 50 more for CIM, 50 more for BDSM, 100 more for anal. I cannot imagine her doing any of those for free. But I don't know.
Maybe you are right. Maybe 2000 was too high. But if it is, it won't be by much. She is busy pretty much from when she walks into the bar until end of the night. I do know this. Standard in E92 for "all night" with the girl is 800 euros. Again, guessing as I don't know, but from her success rate I would imagine she would reject this as it wouldn't match her earning potential.
I didn't look at the escort options you posted as I don't do them. Not least for fear of bait and switch. Or, since your post in the main forum. WORSE! Bad enough to turn up to an apartment to find that the stunningly slim girl on the website is an ugly fatty, (common occurence!) but your experience of turning up for an appointment to find two transvestites wins the prize for bait and switch of the century! Now I cannot be sure, and I do know that punting in clubs costs more, but I cannot believe I've ever been face to face with a tranny in a line up in a club! As I've said a million times, and I fully accept it's horses for courses and we all like different things (which is great), for me, I 100% want to see what I am buying before I buy it. When I am in the presence of a very sexy lady, and I know I'm about to go fuck her, my excitement and expectation levels are high. Previously when I risked escorts outside, I'd see a picture, that excitement and expectation grew, I'd get to the door and CRASH. Awful, ugly, fat whatever. Ok. I don't pay. I saved the cash. But by then my excitement was not fulfilled, my expectations crushed, and what do I do, get back on my phone as I walk away in horror to take the risk of repeating that all over again? Erm. No thanks.
For balance, I have to say I've taken girls to the room in clubs full of excitement, and their service is poor. But no issue. Limit the session then to 30 minutes, she's still pretty (as I picked her) so enjoy the fuck / suck / whatever and then back to the bar to make a selection. And maybe choose one of the girls I know will give great service. For all those reasons, selecting very sexy girls in clubs will always be my first option. Erotic massage second. No more escorts for me (or trannys!
Reporting back PayForIt. Well, tonight wasn't as entertaining as my trip to Cleofas and Fontana, but a night well spent none the less.
I got to New Scandalo around 11:30 PM. One of the Nigerian bouncers directed me to some kind of machine like what you use to pay for parking in a mall. You insert 50 EUR, and it's supposed to spit back out 35 EUR and a ticket for one drink. The Nigerian fucked up so I ended up with two drink tickets and 20 EUR. He called his boss who was going through some administrative rigamorole to get me back my 15 EUR until I said fuck it, I'll just get two drinks. Problem solved. I'd already been tanking up on liquor before I got there, to avoid paying 15 EUR for drinks, so had a pretty good buzz, especially after slamming down a few more gin and tonics in the club.
A couple of Croatians introduced themselves and I got rid of them without a lot of hassle. Next up was Wendi, fresh off the boat from Medellin. She had just been in Malaga for 5 days and this was her first trip, anywhere. She was excited because she'd never seen the beach or a sea before -- she'd never been to Cartagena, Santa Marta, San Andreas, nowhere. She's in her mid to late twenties and has nicely done store bought breasts, but is not among the hottest women in Scandalo.
Aside: This place has serious talent. I'm a connoisseur of hooker bars, and I can't necessarily say I've ever been in one that had as many hot women as Scandalo on a Saturday night. Brixx in Singapore and La Dolce Vita in Cartagena, Colombia maybe compare. Now I haven't been to the FKK's or Globe or the Scandalo in Sao Paulo (bucket list items), but this place is world class.
There's a saying, it's better to let the woman pick you, and that's what happened with Wendi. We talked about Colombian history and politics over a couple of drinks before heading to the room. She told me it was $150 for 40 minutes or $300 for one hour. My momma didn't raise no fool so I took the 40 minute option.
We get to the cashier and Wendi pays the $35 house fee out of the $150. We had a great time in the room. They called after 30 minutes, and we ended up vacating the room just before 40 minutes had passed so she wouldn't have to pay another $35. Then we retreated to some kind of quieter smoking bar in the Scandalo complex. We talked for a good while longer, with me nursing my last gin and tonic, before we traded WhatsApp info and I headed out. She told me she could spend the day with me sometime, but I'd have to pay the house $300. The reasoning she said is the customer meets the lady at Scandalo's and therefore the establishment deserves a cut. If they see her out on the town with a customer and she didn't pay the $300, then she's fucked. Fair enough, although I'm not sure I'll be forking over the $300.
The Nigerians kindly helped me get a taxi to get back to my hotel, and I literally stumbled back to my room, raising the concern of the people at reception after I fell flat on my face. But I didn't care. I'm in Malaga, I've got a great buzz, and I just got laid! Time to knock down a couple of Aleve (OTC pain killers) and hit the sack.
Thanks again to contributors for the excellent info in this forum which made this night of debauchery possible.Another fantastic report Tiny. Glad you liked the club. Jesus. The towels now went to 35 from 30 - which itself was disgusting!
I agree that you got ripped here with the "only just arrived" stuff and the price. 99% of the girls in Scandalos do 250/ hour and many will go to 200 if pushed. So 150/40 was really high. Still. You liked her, and got her number. Totally agree that she will pocket all the cash you pay.
I paid no barfine with the two I took out. Just told them I'the pay 200 each per hour and they agreed. No sneaking out. It was cold that night. They both went and put coats on, walked up to me in the bar making it very clear to all that we were leaving. No questions asked. I suspect you'll get Wendi for a lot less than she is suggesting if you want to repeat outside.
As you say, the standard of looks in the club is very impressive.
Will pm you privately about Brixx.
Thanks for another great report, particularly loved the ending and hope the fall wasn't too bad (it sounded hilarious!
Andalus Expat
05-01-22, 18:58
That crossed my mind. I think PayForIt reported barfining a couple of women from there for the sheet fee one evening and then partying with them for hours at the hotel next door. Also I believe someone reported that you pay the same sheet fee for 30 minutes or 2 hours, so Im wondering whether they were really going to dock her if we didnt get out of the room after the phone call.
She also told me she could spend a couple of hours during the day eating out or whatever without paying anything. It didn't add up.
She said this was her first time in Spain and she'd only been there 5 days. So maybe it was an honest mistake. Or maybe she's really been there for years and figures a punter's more likely to go to the room with fresh meat.I've never heard of anyone barfining from a Spanish club. The girls don't work for the club. It's a hotel with a bar. It's not actually a club in any of the normal senses of the word. If anybody's paid a barfine to get a girl out they've been scammed. If someone from the management asks for one, tell them you'll inform the police. That'll shut them up.
I don't do 30 minutes so don't know for sure but I would not be surprised if 100 is correct. Or possibly a bit more to dissuade guys for only taking 30 minutes. Interesting discussion with Ina about prices. She said some of the less attractive girls will do 70/30 minutes. She said that whilst you'the think that was poor in fact they can be up and down to the room many times and some of the girls wonder if they are right to hang out for more.
Christina is really unmissable. She is a blonde spinner. Long blonde (extensions hair), wears bikini in the bar as she has a fabulous body. Facially 9/10 - very pretty. I have been with her in Scandalos but not 92 since I felt she tried to upsell me to 200 last time I was there. But clearly that's no longer correct. I haven't tried to negotiate her to say 350/2 hours. Might give that a whirl next time. Very much optifuk. I don't remember her service being memorable but in honesty I cannot remember the session. Would have been say 3 years ago. Worth another punt given her looks and body.Sounds interesting. I must try her, but I don't like just optifuk, I want good service too. Report back when you try her, lets see how it is. I'm sure you going to try her tonight or tomorrow night.
I've never heard of anyone barfining from a Spanish club. The girls don't work for the club. It's a hotel with a bar. It's not actually a club in any of the normal senses of the word. If anybody's paid a barfine to get a girl out they've been scammed. If someone from the management asks for one, tell them you'll inform the police. That'll shut them up.It's not bar-fining in the Thai sense of paying a fee to the club or owner to take the girls out. As mentioned in my previous response. I didn't pay the club a fee. I paid the girls a fee. I could understand the club getting upset if this happened a lot as it deprives them of the room fees from the girls (who often get the punters to pay them). But in the sense that Tiny meant that I had taken girls out of the club. That is correct.
Sounds interesting. I must try her, but I don't like just optifuk, I want good service too. Report back when you try her, lets see how it is. I'm sure you going to try her tonight or tomorrow night.Not possible for at least a week due to work commitments and to be honest, as I won't have a lot of time in Spain this time around, I would take Veronica again over her next time I'm in E92. I also want to test the water again in Scandalos as there were a lot of options last time I was there (as Tiny has verified again below) but honestly not sure if I have 2 nights activities left on this trip. Had anticipated staying 6-8 weeks but that is no longer possible and am likely to head back East after next weekend. Hope to get one night at least with Veronica at E92.
Andalus Expat
05-02-22, 04:22
Glad you enjoyed it. Christina doesn't arrive in the bar at 11. She is one of the earliest in the bar. Around 9 pm. I also know for a fact she has some regulars who "pop in" for an hour during afternoons. She doesn't do the schmoozing. Doesn't need to. Spinner body with not much covering it, pretty face. I described her to Qaz as optifuk. Guys think "wow", approach and often take her instantly. I don't see her needing to approach many guys. On Friday she was lining up the next guy (arranging time) whilst on her way to the door with the current punter!
Plus you are not taking into account three important factors for the best girls in clubs:
1. Most guys give tips - 10 here, 20 there. If the service is good.
2. Many pretty girls take the guy for an hour and he's out after 20 minutes! So she isn't restricted to one an hour..I'm still trying to work out the scam might have been. I was asked for money straight off. Maybe it's get the dosh before the guy susses the gender & then he'll leave without trying to recover it. Situation like that, a lot of guys wouldn't want a fuss. Not a problem to me. I enjoy fuss. And I'm not stupid enough to contact putas I don't know on my personal number. I have a burner. Something goes wrong, I dump the SIM, wipe the fone. The event never occurred.
I think we have very different attitudes to putas, PayForIt. I'm not in the slightest bit impressed with "pretty girls". I know plenty of pretty girls. The CDS is full of them. They're for socialising with. The line-up in Estark is a yawn. Mostly I'm interested in putas for what they do & you don't find that out until they do it. Paying for extras. I've never paid for CIM. Why would I? Some girls do, most don't unless you've known them for a while. Anal, if you have to pay for it, is generally 50 euros top. I've never been asked for 100. Most of the girls I see regularly it's part of the service & how the mood takes us. But clubs are a different world. Money machines of illusion where everything is on the clock & has a price. It's not somewhere I'd go for good sex. Why you can't hack the scene outside of clubs I haven't a clue. The other 95% of punters manage all right. Lack of experience?
I'm still trying to work out the scam might have been. I was asked for money straight off. Maybe it's get the dosh before the guy susses the gender & then he'll leave without trying to recover it. Situation like that, a lot of guys wouldn't want a fuss. Not a problem to me. I enjoy fuss. And I'm not stupid enough to contact putas I don't know on my personal number. I have a burner. Something goes wrong, I dump the SIM, wipe the fone. The event never occurred.
I think we have very different attitudes to putas, PayForIt. I'm not in the slightest bit impressed with "pretty girls". I know plenty of pretty girls. The CDS is full of them. They're for socialising with. The line-up in Estark is a yawn. Mostly I'm interested in putas for what they do & you don't find that out until they do it. Paying for extras. I've never paid for CIM. Why would I? Some girls do, most don't unless you've known them for a while. Anal, if you have to pay for it, is generally 50 euros top. I've never been asked for 100. Most of the girls I see regularly it's part of the service & how the mood takes us. But clubs are a different world. Money machines of illusion where everything is on the clock & has a price. It's not somewhere I'd go for good sex. Why you can't hack the scene outside of clubs I haven't a clue. The other 95% of punters manage all right. Lack of experience?I agree we have a different approach. For me it is really important that the girl is attractive. I find having sex with unattractive girls, however good the service, to be something I just would not contemplate. To me, I would rather pay 300 euros for sex for one hour with a very sexy woman, than have 3 hours of 100 sex with someone I didn't find attractive, or fat, in which case I wouldn't enjoy 10 minutes let alone 3 hours. You seem to always equate sexy / attractive girls in clubs with bad service. But I have set out many times previously, that is just not correct. I'm not young! I've had pretty much all types of sex. Sex with girlfriends, wives, mistresses, having met women normally in clubs, bars, gyms, and later in life in brothels, clubs, windows in Amsterdam, massage parlours, and with plenty of escorts (see below). The notion that independent escorts give the best sex, is, respectfully, total horseshit! And to show balance, the notion that girls in clubs give the best sex is equally horseshit. It's not about the venue. It's about the girl, her attitude, the monger, his attitude, the mood, the chemistry. I'm sure you know from your clear experience that these are what matters and make for the best sex. I think because club girls are "on the clock" you assume the sex will be hurried / rushed / poor as they are desperate to get the guy out of the room to hussle the next punter. This will be true of some girls. But it is not of all of them, and moreover, again as previously explained, regular punters are treated differently because the girl knows it is not a one off. Far from it. If they see a guy who comes to the club regularly, and doesn't do the sip a drink all night ogling routine but takes girls to rooms, maybe buys the odd drink, they will go out of their way to provide great service to become a regular punt for that club regular.
I'm afraid the statement "the line in Estark is a yawn" is, particularly currently, just hopelessly misconceived. There were probably 90+ girls there on Friday, a good 15 of them in a category where I would think most guys would find them sexy / attractive. That's not a yawn line up its a great line up. My mantra has always been that if I am in a club, or FKK, where there are 5+ girls I want to room with that's a great line up. Not least because I am unlikely to be going to the room with more than 2, or in a long day at an FKK maybe 4 but prices now mean that is really expensive (whereas previously not). But it maybe that given you are not really interested in sexy / pretty girls, from what your post said, then the line up would be a yawn.
You ask why I can't hack the scene outside of the clubs and whether it is due to lack of experience. Firstly, I do enjoy sex outside of the clubs. I like erotic massage (which often develops into more) as a daytime form of sex. Some of the thai massage girls are very skilful with their hands and know exactly what to do to press all the right buttons and do it very slowly. Fabulous.
Long before the internet independent escorts was the main way to have paid for sex. I have never been a fan of street worker sex. Oh for sure I've done it. Could not resist one stunner on Calle Montera in Madrid a couple of years back, but for some reason I just don't like it and have reluctance about what I'm being taken to by a working girl. Had one dreadful experience when I collected a girl in a car to be taken to an apartment in Marbella and when I got through the door there were two huge black guys who made clear that (a) I wasn't having sex with anyone and (b) I could hand over my wallet and leave, or be beaten to a pulp and have it taken from me on the floor. And I am not normally easily bullied. I am an ex-boxer. I can handle myself but I gave it up readily as it was clear what the outcome would be otherwise. That experience was enough for me. One bitten.
But I was a long-time user of escorts in London. I found it thoroughly frustrating and not in the least exciting. Of course not every experience was bad. Just occasionally a girl would actually be like she was on the card in the phone box! Then there was the walking up to a "models" shop in Soho. Again. No idea what you'll find, and often very awkward when confronted with a grab a granny to have to say "I'll come back later". The internet has made the independent scene more vibrant. But the photoshop capabilities of the woman are incredible and in my experience (and I don't doubt for one second it is not as extensive as yours) it is just too much risk. Risk when you turn up (or she does if you do outcall. See below) that the woman is not who or what she said she was. That she is ugly, or fat, or much older, but not sexy. By then, they are hoping that with heavy balls the guy will part with his cash anyway. But that links to where we started. I'm not interested in unattractive woman and won't spend my hard-earned cash having sex with anyone I don't fancy. So you suggest I don't "hack" the independent scene due to a lack of experience. I think it's the reverse. It is because of a LOT of bad experiences with the independent scene that I rarely (but not never) use it. It's simple law of probabilities for me: in a club environment, or windows of Amserdam, or the Laufhauses in Germany (not FKKs but houses where you wander around and girls are at their door inviting you in), or FKK, or soapies in Thailand, or pool bars in the Far East (etc). You get to actually see what you are buying before you spend your money and you don't have to hope that in the room she will look the same! So it is 100% guaranteed at least that you will be having sex with someone you fancy. Oh for sure the service varies a lot. But it does with independents. So it is not that I don't hack the independent scene. I've tried it countless times. And it comes with a lot of unpleasant shocks. Just like the one you had with the trannies. You turned up expecting one thing, looking forward to it no doubt, up for the frolic, and left with your cash in your pocket but wholly unsatisfied. It's not worth it to me.
I do use some independents. The one's I have met in clubs and who have had enough of the club scene and go private. But again it's probability factor. I don't need to worry about risk. I know what they look like, what they are like as people, that I have a decent relationship with them and will have a great time. Those independents I can hack. I've said before, the notion of a nice villa in Spain, lounging about on sun beds around a pool one afternoon with say 10 chicas, great. I'm sure I would find one I liked enough. But I suppose all of the above comes down to this: I need options. I need to see a line up. And pick from it. Then I know I like what I see. And as my nick on here says. Then. I'll pay for it!
I agree we have a different approach. For me it is really important that the girl is attractive. I find having sex with unattractive girls, however good the service, to be something I just would not contemplate. To me, I would rather pay 300 euros for sex for one hour with a very sexy woman, than have 3 hours of 100 sex with someone I didn't find attractive, or fat, in which case I wouldn't enjoy 10 minutes let alone 3 hours. You seem to always equate sexy / attractive girls in clubs with bad service. But I have set out many times previously, that is just not correct. I'm not young! I've had pretty much all types of sex. Sex with girlfriends, wives, mistresses, having met women normally in clubs, bars, gyms, and later in life in brothels, clubs, windows in Amsterdam, massage parlours, and with plenty of escorts (see below). The notion that independent escorts give the best sex, is, respectfully, total horseshit! And to show balance, the notion that girls in clubs give the best sex is equally horseshit. It's not about the venue. It's about the girl, her attitude, the monger, his attitude, the mood, the chemistry. I'm sure you know from your clear experience that these are what matters and make for the best sex. I think because club girls are "on the clock" you assume the sex will be hurried / rushed / poor as they are desperate to get the guy out of the room to hussle the next punter. This will be true of some girls. But it is not of all of them, and moreover, again as previously explained, regular punters are treated differently because the girl knows it is not a one off. Far from it. If they see a guy who comes to the club regularly, and doesn't do the sip a drink all night ogling routine but takes girls to rooms, maybe buys the odd drink, they will go out of their way to provide great service to become a regular punt for that club regular..Very well said! But here we go again with this guy! You may as well be talking to a brick wall. And why is he even here? He whined and moaned and complained about not enough posts about independents with the discussion being too skewed towards the clubs, so you created this thread just for the clubs so that people who wanted to focus only on the indies and other venues could stay in the old thread that actually had been far more established. But still here we are again having to have the same tired debate with this guy about people not being able to "hack it" outside of the club scene. Well, maybe some people neither want to nor have to. What I want to know is why is it that some people simply can't just live and let live? Respect the choices of other people. And bugger off!
I think we have very different attitudes to putas, PayForIt. I'm not in the slightest bit impressed with "pretty girls". I know plenty of pretty girls. The CDS is full of them. They're for socialising with. The line-up in Estark is a yawn. Mostly I'm interested in putas for what they do & you don't find that out until they do it. Paying for extras. I've never paid for CIM. Why would I? Some girls do, most don't unless you've known them for a while. Anal, if you have to pay for it, is generally 50 euros top. I've never been asked for 100. Most of the girls I see regularly it's part of the service & how the mood takes us. But clubs are a different world. Money machines of illusion where everything is on the clock & has a price. It's not somewhere I'd go for good sex. Why you can't hack the scene outside of clubs I haven't a clue. The other 95% of punters manage all right. Lack of experience?Oh, for crying out loud. Do you ever got of that high horse to spout anything but the same condescending and boring nonsense? Yesterday I had made an appointment at a house in Fuengirola based on some add on slumi or passion, since I knew I had to wait for an hour in that area for something unrelated. I was sent pictures of four women via whatsapp before I made the appointment, figuring at least two of the women photoed would be good enough for my plans. When I turned up, there were three women there, who may or may not have been the women on the photos, but none of them were interesting to me. I suggested I'd do the "mamasan" who introduced the women instead, but that was apparently a no-go. Had a cup of coffee and a slice of cake elsewhere while waiting instead. Add me to the 5% of punters who "can't hack it".
Fortunately I have long since stopped being excited about any slumi / passion / etc. add and subsequent appointment, and instead entered a state of mild curiosity regarding what I will be greeted by, and make all my visits in the same way: while I'm in the area anyway and have to wait an hour or two for unrelated matters.
And pretty girls are for "socialising with"? Does that mean it's the non-pretty girls that are for fucking? Makes no sense to me. If anything, I'd prefer the opposite.
Well today I rented a bicycle at my hotel in Marbella, and was cycling down the Golden Mile when I had the brilliant idea to visit Milady. They open at 4:00 PM, and the place is only about 3 or 4 minutes off the bike path leading into Puerto Banus.
I tooled up to Milady on my bike with a big ass basket on the front, wearing my Panama hat. (The well equipped monger always carries sun protection.) A blonde in the doorway was trying not to laugh her ass off when I walked up to the door to ask if the club was open. If you haven't been to Marbella, there are a lot of Bentleys and Ferraris and Lamborghinis around town, so I guess it was novel to see someone pull up on a gay looking bicycle.
The woman says yes we're open so I stick my Panama Hat in the basket on the bike and proceed to enter. At 5:00 PM I'm the only customer, and there are only two women. A "Hungarian" who looks like a skanky Latina walks up and introduces herself. I tell her I'm interested in Latinas, and head over to see the other woman, a Cubana, Lily. Lily, although a bit older than average is a solid 8 with her clothes on, and 6. 5 desnuda. I buy her a drink, we talk for a while, and then head to the room. The bartender kindly gives me a free drink for the road, compliments of the house. Not sure if that's the standard policy, or perhaps he just liked me because I was a generous tipper, in a country where nobody tips.
The nicest cathouse I've been to was the Pegasus Club, a members only club in Bangkok. And the public areas in Milady didn't really compare. But the roooms, wow! If you're into gaudi Venetian style interior decorating, this place is the cat's meow. I've never been to a better bordello room than room #12 in Milady. It was huge. It has a king sized bed, couch and large jacuzzi. Also a sound system. Lily cranked up some Mana and started the jacuzzi.
Lily then tells me her birthday is May 23, two weeks from now. This is what Wendi at Scandolo in Malaga told me about a week ago. In two weeks it would be her birthday. Both Lily and Wendi were very affectionate. I have determined from these experiences that an important part of offering GFE in Spain is telling the client your birthday is just around the corner. I played along at the end, and gave her 50 EUR to buy something for her birthday. The damage by the way for an hour was 350 EUR. The price for half an hour is 200 EUR. Both Lily and the "Hungarian" quoted the same prices.
Speaking of which, Lily told me the Hungarian was really a Romanian. She said right now the club has a couple of Cubanas, a Colombiana, a Venezolana, and most of the rest are Romanian. According to Lily the Romanians say they're from other places because Romanians are renowned for bad service.
Anyway, back to the Jacuzzi. Lily kindly offered to bang in the Jacuzzi, which was new for me, with a condom at least. We gave it a try but it didn't work on so moved onto the bed. Her performance was excellent.
I've never heard of anyone barfining from a Spanish club. The girls don't work for the club. It's a hotel with a bar. It's not actually a club in any of the normal senses of the word. If anybody's paid a barfine to get a girl out they've been scammed. If someone from the management asks for one, tell them you'll inform the police. That'll shut them up.During the post-coitus cuddling, I decided to take the opportunity to find out whether Andalus Expat really knows his shit. Hell, for all I know he could be some joker sitting in his Mom's basement in Darby or New Jersey or wherever. So I ask her about barfining from a Spanish Club. She said if I call her the day before, she'll take the day off and if somebody from the club sees her out and about with me it's not an issue. The women aren't slaves. She says she and the other women typically get 1000 EUR for having dinner and spending the night. I asked her how about if I take her directly from the club to go out for drinks and a poke. She said then it's 350 euros an hour and the house gets its cut.
Anyway, I'm kidding about the basement thing. From the body of work that Andalus Expat has contributed to this forum, it's obvious he does know what he's talking about.
And so my time with Lily came to an end. She said this was her first time in Marbella, that she only spent a week, and she's headed back to Madrid tomorrow. She's going to Ibiza next where she'll spend the summer. She also said she'd be back in June for a good while. But who knows. Like us, the women tend to prevaricate. I would see her again.
We swapped numbers, and I exited the club about 7:15 PM, heading back to my hotel on my gay looking bike.
Well today I rented a bicycle at my hotel in Marbella, and was cycling down the Golden Mile when I had the brilliant idea to visit Milady. They open at 4:00 PM, and the place is only about 3 or 4 minutes off the bike path leading into Puerto Banus.
I tooled up to Milady on my bike with a big ass basket on the front, wearing my Panama hat. (The well equipped monger always carries sun protection.) A blonde in the doorway was trying not to laugh her ass off when I walked up to the door to ask if the club was open. If you haven't been to Marbella, there are a lot of Bentleys and Ferraris and Lamborghinis around town, so I guess it was novel to see someone pull up on a gay looking bicycle.
The woman says yes we're open so I stick my Panama Hat in the basket on the bike and proceed to enter. At 5:00 PM I'm the only customer, and there are only two women. A "Hungarian" who looks like a skanky Latina walks up and introduces herself. I tell her I'm interested in Latinas, and head over to see the other woman, a Cubana, Lily. Lily, although a bit older than average is a solid 8 with her clothes on, and 6. 5 desnuda. I buy her a drink, we talk for a while, and then head to the room. The bartender kindly gives me a free drink for the road, compliments of the house. Not sure if that's the standard policy, or perhaps he just liked me because I was a generous tipper, in a country where nobody tips.
The nicest cathouse I've been to was the Pegasus Club, a members only club in Bangkok. And the public areas in Milady didn't really compare. But the roooms, wow! If you're into gaudi Venetian style interior decorating, this place is the cat's meow. I've never been to a better bordello room than room #12 in Milady. It was huge. It has a king sized bed, couch and large jacuzzi. Also a sound system. Lily cranked up some Mana and started the jacuzzi.
Lily then tells me her birthday is May 23, two weeks from now. This is what Wendi at Scandolo in Malaga told me about a week ago. In two weeks it would be her birthday. Both Lily and Wendi were very affectionate. I have determined from these experiences that an important part of offering GFE in Spain is telling the client your birthday is just around the corner. I played along at the end, and gave her 50 EUR to buy something for her birthday. The damage by the way for an hour was 350 EUR. The price for half an hour is 200 EUR. Both Lily and the "Hungarian" quoted the same prices.
Speaking of which, Lily told me the Hungarian was really a Romanian. She said right now the club has a couple of Cubanas, a Colombiana, a Venezolana, and most of the rest are Romanian. According to Lily the Romanians say they're from other places because Romanians are renowned for bad service.
Anyway, back to the Jacuzzi. Lily kindly offered to bang in the Jacuzzi, which was new for me, with a condom at least. We gave it a try but it didn't work on so moved onto the bed. Her performance was excellent.
During the post-coitus cuddling, I decided to take the opportunity to find out whether Andalus Expat really knows his shit. Hell, for all I know he could be some joker sitting in his Mom's basement in Darby or New Jersey or wherever. So I ask her about barfining from a Spanish Club. She said if I call her the day before, she'll take the day off and if somebody from the club sees her out and about with me it's not an issue. The women aren't slaves. She says she and the other women typically get 1000 EUR for having dinner and spending the night. I asked her how about if I take her directly from the club to go out for drinks and a poke. She said then it's 350 euros an hour and the house gets its cut.
Anyway, I'm kidding about the basement thing. From the body of work that Andalus Expat has contributed to this forum, it's obvious he does know what he's talking about.
And so my time with Lily came to an end. She said this was her first time in Marbella, that she only spent a week, and she's headed back to Madrid tomorrow. She's going to Ibiza next where she'll spend the summer. She also said she'd be back in June for a good while. But who knows. Like us, the women tend to prevaricate. I would see her again.
We swapped numbers, and I exited the club about 7:15 PM, heading back to my hotel on my gay looking bike.Another terrific report. 350/ hour. Wow - it's getting very expensive.
Anyway, I'm kidding about the basement thing. From the body of work that Andalus Expat has contributed to this forum, it's obvious he does know what he's talking about.Nobody is really questioning that. It's just that it's possible to be knowledgeable without being condescending to other people at the same time. When you engage in the latter, the "expert" label tends to get lost in the one for "jerk". Also, we would all do well to recognize and accept when others have different tastes and desires than our own, and just might know a hell of a lot about what they're talking about too.
Why you can't hack the scene outside of clubs I haven't a clue. The other 95% of punters manage all right. Lack of experience?Haha! While I have almost no experience with hookers on the Costa del Sol, in general I far prefer hooker bars to escorts. It's just a matter of preference. For example, you like anal. I could tell you about 10 reasons why I think sticking one's penis up a hooker's ass is disgusting. But who cares. We all have our likes and dislikes. As Cane put it, better than I, "we would all do well to recognize and accept when others have different tastes and desires than our own."
And don't let recent comments, including mine, discourage you from posting here. I really enjoy what you write.
Returned to E92 tonight and it started very well. Alicia (blonde Ro) back and has lost weight and was very sexy. Had a terrific one hour. Beatrice, Ina and Veronica went up with one guy with a bottle of champagne and never returned!
Lots of options but boy did I get it badly wrong. Chose a very pretty Columbian called Stephanie. Long dark hair. Seemed fun. We get to the room and she wants 220 euros for an hour. What? In E92? Never heard of that before. It's my final punt of the night and I hideously decide to go with it as many are now at 200. After a shower she explains she has no condoms and needs to go downstairs. A hooker with no condoms? Seriously? Then after returning and CBJ for about 20 seconds demands a drink. I often buy drinks for girls in the club. And had bought no less than 6 for different girls I know tonight. I don't mind. Even if I'm not going to a room with them. I suppose over the years I have got to know them well enough to believe I can stand them a drink. Even at 30 euros. But I really don't like being taken for an idiot and this Stephanie was at it. After the "you can buy us champagne" I decided to quit. I asked for my money back. She refused. I insisted we speak to the manager. Juan - who I know well. But as she had gotten naked and provided all of 20 seconds CBJ he felt her compromise of retuning my cash and retaining 50 euros to be a fair solution. I didn't and left.
I like the club, the staff and most of the girls. Beware pretty Columbian Stephanie. Scam artist in my opinion. Oh and in the room her ass was fat! (If that sounds bitchy well yes, it is! Disappointing end to another good night. The club was rammed at 1 am. A lot of younger guys are starting to hit E92.
Returned to E92 tonight and it started very well. Alicia (blonde Ro) back and has lost weight and was very sexy. Had a terrific one hour. Beatrice, Ina and Veronica went up with one guy with a bottle of champagne and never returned!
Lots of options but boy did I get it badly wrong. Chose a very pretty Columbian called Stephanie. Long dark hair. Seemed fun. We get to the room and she wants 220 euros for an hour. What? In E92? Never heard of that before. It's my final punt of the night and I hideously decide to go with it as many are now at 200. After a shower she explains she has no condoms and needs to go downstairs. A hooker with no condoms? Seriously? Then after returning and CBJ for about 20 seconds demands a drink. I often buy drinks for girls in the club. And had bought no less than 6 for different girls I know tonight. I don't mind. Even if I'm not going to a room with them. I suppose over the years I have got to know them well enough to believe I can stand them a drink. Even at 30 euros. But I really don't like being taken for an idiot and this Stephanie was at it. After the "you can buy us champagne" I decided to quit. I asked for my money back. She refused. I insisted we speak to the manager. Juan - who I know well. But as she had gotten naked and provided all of 20 seconds CBJ he felt her compromise of retuning my cash and retaining 50 euros to be a fair solution. I didn't and left.
I like the club, the staff and most of the girls. Beware pretty Columbian Stephanie. Scam artist in my opinion. Oh and in the room her ass was fat! (If that sounds bitchy well yes, it is! Disappointing end to another good night. The club was rammed at 1 am. A lot of younger guys are starting to hit E92.Does she have tattoos?
Was christina also there?
Does she have tattoos?
Was christina also there?Didn't see any tattoos. Think you mean Valentina. Yes Christina was there in an all blue catsuit. Fairly constantly in the room again.
Buurmanneken
05-09-22, 13:42
Hi,
I'm planning a visit 24-25 may in region Casares / Estepona, would like to visit some clubs, thinking of hotel Fontana (24/5) & Estark (25/5).
I can imagine the experience is the same as / compared to (German) Saunaclubs (Sixsens in Lemiers & Saunaclub Babylon in Elsdorf? First talk about services vs prices & then room?
Anny experiences in Glass place Estepona?
Looking for tips for very oral oriented service (sloppy, deep BBBJ (preferably with Garg. Prof.) & eventual to be combined with "arns."
Hi,
I'm planning a visit 24-25 may in region Casares / Estepona, would like to visit some clubs, thinking of hotel Fontana (24/5) & Estark (25/5).
I can imagine the experience is the same as / compared to (German) Saunaclubs (Sixsens in Lemiers & Saunaclub Babylon in Elsdorf? First talk about services vs prices & then room?
Anny experiences in Glass place Estepona?
Looking for tips for very oral oriented service (sloppy, deep BBBJ (preferably with Garg. Prof.) & eventual to be combined with "arns."Would not bother with Estark 95 - it is empty most nights - 6/7 girls and nothing special. Fontana is good after 11.30 currently. Line up has fluctuated in recent years (pandemic excluded) so hit and miss but you'll find someone you like. Prices are 200/ hour. 10 entry for drink. Ladies drinks 30. Yes similar to Germany though you've named 2 FKKs / Saunaclubs that I have not been too (though Sirioja has been to Sixens many times. See his reports in that forum). So I cannot say what LU is like in either but I suspect stronger than in any of the clubs at that end of the CDS you are visiting.
GP in Estepona is some journey for you if in Casares. Prices start 200/ hour but some girls now wanting 250. Lady drinks 30 or 50. Usually no more than 10 girls of which one or two are 7/10. Not seen an 8/10 there for some time.
Have fun and please do report.
Didn't see any tattoos. Think you mean Valentina. Yes Christina was there in an all blue catsuit. Fairly constantly in the room again.Who is valentina? Slim? Have you tried her?
Any other news? Thanks.
Who is valentina? Slim? Have you tried her?
Any other news? Thanks.No not especially slim. Pretty face. Tattoos, Columbian.
No news other than (1) separate report on Scandalos last night to follow (2) E92 last week saw one Swedish guy turn up and order 12 (yes twelve) bottles of champagne at 400 euros a bottle. He then books three girls (Ina, Beatrice and Veronica) for 4 hours. So in total spends nearly 7000 euros. Wait for it. He proceeded to repeat that routine four nights running! Wow. Just shows that there is obviously some heavy money out there. Good luck to him but especially happy for these lovely ladies.
My one and only visit this trip. Midweek. Line up was decent but not amazing. 90% of the girls from South America or Dom Republic. Contemplated another round with Anna (blonde Ro) and Mayte (also blonde Ro with gym body) but ended up with longtime fav Lorena. Small blonde Ro- very pretty 9/10. I obviously prefer EE girls! It's the big butts on the latinas that puts me off. To each their own. The club was pretty busy by 12.30 but not as busy as E92 weekends. Probably not a fair comparison.
Room charge is still 30/ hour. And I still refuse to pay it. Drinks. Beer 12 euros, wine a crazy 15 per glass. Girl drinks 50.
Settled on 400 for 2 hours with Lorena provided she paid the room so she made 340 for 2 hours. That is actually less than a lot of girls in E92 are now making as the guy only has to pay 10 for the room. Speaking to several girls it seems that the drift to E92 may continue but it's actually not that different in terms of what the girls make in each club.
That's likely to be my last club visit for a couple of months on the CDS now as I leave on Thursday, and am not likely to be back here until late July, Look forward to hearing updates from others.
Has anyone been to estark recently? Who is the most beautiful one there at the moment?
Went on a Tuesday, about 70-80 girls were working (was told that more than 100 are currently at the club) , many guys around in the disco area but was told that there is not enough work for all of them. Spotted about a dozen who were 7 or more, but depends on your taste really, I am really picky tho.
Approached 3 , 4 of them (never had seen them before so I think they were new as they didn't speak english nor spanish well) none of them was willing to give BBBJ, DFK. That was really disappointing because it was the first time I was told no to BBBJ in estark (always got DFK at estark too but I know some may not accept it). So went around the club to find another one, it was obvious that the not so good looking ones were willing to give those services but I was not interested in them. So decided to repeat a session with one of the popular girls at estark (I usually don't repeat as I like to change every time to experience new things) . So was told that the rate is now 100/30 min,+10 for sheets. Payforit had said that here so not surprised, but then another 20 for BBBJ and no DFK. (it was 75/30 min with the same girl including BBBJ and DFK just a few months ago). It is understandable that they have upped the price as it is summer and inflation and etc. But what was not fine for me is that you increase the price and then are going to offer less services for the higher rate.
It is great to have many working in estark, more girls than 2007 or 8 when it was booming, but I think the problem is that most just want drunk tourists in order to earn more and offer less. Because many tourists just get there drunk and don't ask for services and just go up and pay. Lets hope it doesn't stay this way.
Went on a Tuesday, about 70-80 girls were working (was told that more than 100 are currently at the club) , many guys around in the disco area but was told that there is not enough work for all of them. Spotted about a dozen who were 7 or more, but depends on your taste really, I am really picky tho.
Approached 3 , 4 of them (never had seen them before so I think they were new as they didn't speak english nor spanish well) none of them was willing to give BBBJ, DFK. That was really disappointing because it was the first time I was told no to BBBJ in estark (always got DFK at estark too but I know some may not accept it). So went around the club to find another one, it was obvious that the not so good looking ones were willing to give those services but I was not interested in them. So decided to repeat a session with one of the popular girls at estark (I usually don't repeat as I like to change every time to experience new things) . So was told that the rate is now 100/30 min,+10 for sheets. Payforit had said that here so not surprised, but then another 20 for BBBJ and no DFK. (it was 75/30 min with the same girl including BBBJ and DFK just a few months ago). It is understandable that they have upped the price as it is summer and inflation and etc. But what was not fine for me is that you increase the price and then are going to offer less services for the higher rate.
It is great to have many working in estark, more girls than 2007 or 8 when it was booming, but I think the problem is that most just want drunk tourists in order to earn more and offer less. Because many tourists just get there drunk and don't ask for services and just go up and pay. Lets hope it doesn't stay this way.Thanks for a good field report. Who did you repeat with?
I suspect you got charged the extra 20 for BBBJ and DFK because you only took 30 minutes. You will still find a lot of girls in the club who will still do 150/60 minutes with those services included (provided you know them / they know you). The other thing is that with now over 126 rooms rented in the club by girls (I a told this is the highest ever number since the club opened) competition is high so there should be some great deals to be had even with the good looking girls. There are some, e. G. Christina, who will not budge from her 200/60 price but all of the Ina / Beatrice / Veronica / Alicia group will happily do 150/60 (and the 10 for the sheets).
It makes 30 min sessions uneconomical - 75+20+10 = 105 for 30 minutes. You get an extra 30 for only 45 euros!
I agree some of the girls just wait to prey on drunk tourists. But that happens in clubs worldwide. What is clear is that business is booming in the clubs this year. E92 is clearing over 50,000 euros per week in accommodation fees alone before it sells a single drink / revenues from towels / casino etc. I just hope they don't follow the Scandalos model of allowing the girls to go crazy with pricing. I know the policy is very much that the girl is a hotel tenant / can charge what she wants, but truth is that the club does get involved in mediating disputes between clients and the girls, hence no reason to make clear that silly hiking of prices will mean rooms will not be let out to those found to be doing it. Occupation is close to capacity now other than the suites. So any girl representing trouble / breaking with policy too much will find herself having to look for a new club.
Thanks for a good field report. Who did you repeat with?
I suspect you got charged the extra 20 for BBBJ and DFK because you only took 30 minutes. You will still find a lot of girls in the club who will still do 150/60 minutes with those services included (provided you know them / they know you). The other thing is that with now over 126 rooms rented in the club by girls (I a told this is the highest ever number since the club opened) competition is high so there should be some great deals to be had even with the good looking girls. There are some, e. G. Christina, who will not budge from her 200/60 price but all of the Ina / Beatrice / Veronica / Alicia group will happily do 150/60 (and the 10 for the sheets).
It makes 30 min sessions uneconomical - 75+20+10 = 105 for 30 minutes. You get an extra 30 for only 45 euros!
I agree some of the girls just wait to prey on drunk tourists. But that happens in clubs worldwide. What is clear is that business is booming in the clubs this year. E92 is clearing over 50,000 euros per week in accommodation fees alone before it sells a single drink / revenues from towels / casino etc. I just hope they don't follow the Scandalos model of allowing the girls to go crazy with pricing. I know the policy is very much that the girl is a hotel tenant / can charge what she wants, but truth is that the club does get involved in mediating disputes between clients and the girls, hence no reason to make clear that silly hiking of prices will mean rooms will not be let out to those found to be doing it. Occupation is close to capacity now other than the suites. So any girl representing trouble / breaking with policy too much will find herself having to look for a new club.I also really hope that they don't start charging 300 euros an hour, because it seems that it is on that path.
I repeated with Ina, even tho the service was really good but I left thinking that only a few months ago this was 75 euros and actually better service. I think too much work also makes them tired and less willing to please, because they are just thinking about going back down to the bar and get another client.
I also really hope that they don't start charging 300 euros an hour, because it seems that it is on that path.Paying that kind of money in Spain would be a total rip-off! Why? In Germany, for that price, I can procure an hour of sex for that with BBBJ, CIM, and butt sex. I could get that for $100 less per hour in Brazil! Whereas, so many girls in Spain want to do CBJs (I refuse), won't take CIM, and definitely won't cornhole. I'm not saying you can't find it all in Spain, but it's at a level of effort I don't have to put up with in Germany and Brazil where I can more routinely get value for my money. And now, here comes annoying new legislation on the horizon in Spain. The Iberian peninsula remains absent from my monger travel plans. Too bad too since I otherwise enjoy vacationing in that country.
Paying that kind of money in Spain would be a total rip-off! Why? In Germany, for that price, I can procure an hour of sex for that with BBBJ, CIM, and butt sex. I could get that for $100 less per hour in Brazil! Whereas, so many girls in Spain want to do CBJs (I refuse), won't take CIM, and definitely won't cornhole. I'm not saying you can't find it all in Spain, but it's at a level of effort I don't have to put up with in Germany and Brazil where I can more routinely get value for my money. And now, here comes annoying new legislation on the horizon in Spain. The Iberian peninsula remains absent from my monger travel plans. Too bad too since I otherwise enjoy vacationing in that country.All fair comments. I'm mid FKK trip and have had rooms for 150/ hour (and even 40 for 30 minutes!) with BBBJ. As you know, CIM 50 extra and your wonderfully described "cornhole" 100 more! I am no anal fan but temptation to ask a girl tonight for cornhole his just overwhelming. LOL!
E92 won't get to 300/ you. As reported previously, there are many there who will do standard 150/ hour with BBBJ if they get to know you. But that requires at least a couple of visits in the club rather than one. I have done all the maths before. There really isn't much in at all all. Take a standard night at say Sharks. 65 entry. Ignore own drinks as you pay for you own in both countries. Ignore even girl drinks (I find in FKKs it's not easy to get them to partake as they don't get a commission on it and it makes them tired). Room for an hour. Sharks - 150 with BBBJ from 80% of the girls but this example was any of the FKKs in Hamburg (Atmos / Harmony) or Bavaria, or Samya (see report this week), you would have to pay 20 more for BBBJ. It's 100 more for anal in FKK and 50 CIM. So now your entry, one hour, one room, BBBJ, CIM and anal just cost you a total of 365 euros and that assumes the BBBJ was not charged for. Same hour in Artemis 10 more. Sunshine 50 more (Munich). That's an expensive room! Ok you got a meal for free! Spain is a different model. No entry fees (most places or 10 e with ticket for a beer). Many places the girls won't do the extras (as you correctly stated). But E92 standard price 150/ hour. Scandalos 250 though 200 common. If you pay more then for cornhole and CIM (if they do either) it takes you back up to the sort of cash you spent in an hour in FKK.
There is a main difference though. Spending an entire day around a swimming pool with nearly 100 naked women (FKK Oase yesterday), playing soccer, table tennis and basketball with 5 or 6 very pretty young naked girls. And sunbathing with 2 one 3 of them rubbing the oil in. Everywhere. It makes the Spanish clubs very very boring indeed! I love Spain as a country. It knocks spots of Germany for me (maybe Munich and Hamburg excluded, and actually Bad Homburg is lovely), and I shall indeed return this year to sample my favourites at E92. But on a hot summers day there is just no beating the whole FKK experience. Pool party all day at Oase Saturday. You should come! There was sweetcorn on the menu at the outdoor BBQ by the pool. And I know how much you love your corn! LOL!
Spending an entire day around a swimming pool with nearly 100 naked women (FKK Oase yesterday), playing soccer, table tennis and basketball with 5 or 6 very pretty young naked girls. And sunbathing with 2 one 3 of them rubbing the oil in. Everywhere. It makes the Spanish clubs very very boring indeed! I love Spain as a country. It knocks spots of Germany for me (maybe Munich and Hamburg excluded, and actually Bad Homburg is lovely), and I shall indeed return this year to sample my favourites at E92. But on a hot summers day there is just no beating the whole FKK experience. Pool party all day at Oase Saturday. You should come! There was sweetcorn on the menu at the outdoor BBQ by the pool. And I know how much you love your corn! LOL!And this all contributes to getting that value for your money that I'm oft to talk about. And yes again, I'm quite the connoisseur of the cornhole! Hahaha!
Paying that kind of money in Spain would be a total rip-off! Why? In Germany, for that price, I can procure an hour of sex for that with BBBJ, CIM, and butt sex. I could get that for $100 less per hour in Brazil! Whereas, so many girls in Spain want to do CBJs (I refuse), won't take CIM, and definitely won't cornhole. I'm not saying you can't find it all in Spain, but it's at a level of effort I don't have to put up with in Germany and Brazil where I can more routinely get value for my money. And now, here comes annoying new legislation on the horizon in Spain. The Iberian peninsula remains absent from my monger travel plans. Too bad too since I otherwise enjoy vacationing in that country.It is a rip off. The problem is that there are people who pay such rates without any problems, and that's the problem, once the girls have clients who are willing to pay 200 an hour, they won't accept 150 anymore. The notion that estark is 150 e an hour is simply wrong (a few days ago I was there again and, not even one was interested in it, maybe very bad looking ones accept that because they have no clients, even tho they are more interested in drunk tourist who have no idea about what they are doing), most of them in estark want 200 an hour plus 20 for BBBJ if they do it, now maybe they give you a discount if you are their regular or buy 2,3 hours rooms as payforit says. Estark is quite busy and the good looking ones are making good money but I feel that the level of service has dropped.
Now scandalo is much better in terms of quality, many 9's. Thats not to say that you can't find a 9 in estark, it is just that the overall quality is really better in scandalo, but expect 300 e an hour and 30 for sheets. I know you can say no to that, but many 9's will simply say you either pay the 30 or I go with another client. And yes there are clients who wouldn't mind paying 500 e an hour so 30 more doesn't change anything for them. I even heard that one was even asking for 350 an hour and the guy paid, so be careful not to pay these rates.
It is a rip off. The problem is that there are people who pay such rates without any problems, and that's the problem, once the girls have clients who are willing to pay 200 an hour, they won't accept 150 anymore.
Now scandalo is much better in terms of quality, many 9's. Thats not to say that you can't find a 9 in estark, it is just that the overall quality is really better in scandalo, but expect 300 e an hour and 30 for sheets. I know you can say no to that, but many 9's will simply say you either pay the 30 or I go with another client. And yes there are clients who wouldn't mind paying 500 e an hour so 30 more doesn't change anything for them. I even heard that one was even asking for 350 an hour and the guy paid, so be careful not to pay these rates.I'm afraid this is partly just pandemic and now world economy driven. Everything is getting more expensive and many of the girls have debts after not being able to work (much) during lockdowns etc. So prices have increased. If you go to the FKK threads you'll see similar debates regarding rates in Germany getting higher.
I'm not sure I agree that the quality in Scandalos is better. There are a lot of girls there who are very fat or have enormous bums. If that's your thing that's great. But they are huge! Yes there are several 9's, but as you say, there are some at E92 also.
I doubt we will see falls in prices any time soon. There are enough people willing to pay the higher prices so no need for them to drop lower. It will even out. They know what prices they can get and when the customers stop going (if the prices get too high) they will reduce to attract custom. Part of the problem is that a lot of clients had a lot of cash in their pockets after the pandemic. And having been locked up wanted to spent it. And party. This also assisted prices increases. They are not going to reduce any time soon.
Andalus Expat
06-22-22, 14:56
I'm afraid this is partly just pandemic and now world economy driven. Everything is getting more expensive and many of the girls have debts after not being able to work (much) during lockdowns etc. So prices have increased. If you go to the FKK threads you'll see similar debates regarding rates in Germany getting higher.
I'm not sure I agree that the quality in Scandalos is better. There are a lot of girls there who are very fat or have enormous bums. If that's your thing that's great. But they are huge! Yes there are several 9's, but as you say, there are some at E92 also.
I doubt we will see falls in prices any time soon. There are enough people willing to pay the higher prices so no need for them to drop lower. It will even out. They know what prices they can get and when the customers stop going (if the prices get too high) they will reduce to attract custom. Part of the problem is that a lot of clients had a lot of cash in their pockets after the pandemic. And having been locked up wanted to spent it. And party. This also assisted prices increases. They are not going to reduce any time soon.I suppose one could call this a club report, since I was in Carvajal last night with a Brasilian puta & everything else being so quiet we thought we'd go have a drink in Estark. I'm sure the club don't like me doing this but who gives a toss? Seemed fairly busy. She chatted with a couple of the other Brasilians. They were telling her the punters are hard work to get any money out of. It's just about worthwhile working there. They were quizzing her about other opportunities. But it's no better outside. Why she was out for dinner with me rather than working. You're right about the prices. Girl's incomes got a caning during Covid & they're trying to make up lost ground. They're just trying it far too soon. This season really hasn't got off the ground. Looking at the street outside my town centre apartment around midnight at the weekend, it was virtually deserted. And this is the main shopping road a short walk from the beach. In '19 it was jostling with people headed away from the area's numerous restaurants or towards the night life. What tourists I am seeing about are in the retired age group. A distinct absence of lads from the northern countries down for a Med jolly. The cleverer girls work on their own have been reducing prices & benefiting by doing so. Whether that competition seeps into the clubs is another matter.
Big arses on girls? The Spanish like big arsed girls. Hence the proliferation of silicone enhancements. The metric you're using is your personal metric. You're 9 will be someone else's 6. For reference, my Brasilian (Bahia, coffee coloured, pretty without slap, 30 years real) is slender with small naturals & delightful little arse. Also enormous fun to be around if you don't mind foregoing a lot of sleep. She generally does better with foreign clients.
Big arses on girls? The Spanish like big arsed girls. Hence the proliferation of silicone enhancements. The metric you're using is your personal metric. You're 9 will be someone else's 6.Agreed, and someone else's 6 might be a 9 for me. It is the beauty of the sport. Eye of the beholder and all that. You don't get that many Spanish customers in E92 or Scandalos any more. Oh sure a few sit in the casino area of 92 and enjoy the sites over their one coffee and one beer in 4 hours. But 99% of the paying punters in these clubs are not Spanish. The clubs cater for wealthy tourists. The reason you see the very fat asses in Scanadalos (far less in E92) is that the Moroccan young guys with the cash love the bit booties.
Just had a whatsapp from a regular ISG contributor and very reliable source who spent the last week or so on the coast.
He says that E92 was disappointing, some of the regulars not in attendance, but that there is a batch of new, young, very slim and very pretty girls at Scandalos. Which he sampled with joy! Seems like Scandalos is trying to fight back after significant losses in 2021.
I live on the Costa and as such have frequented many houses and independents over the years. Houses come and go but a high quality constant is sweettentations.com. Pretty girls, 60/30 minutes, very polite and reliable service. Highly recommended. You take the exit off of N340 near the Kempinski Hotel Estepona.
Brit Funlover
07-03-22, 00:02
I live on the Costa and as such have frequented many houses and independents over the years. Houses come and go but a high quality constant is sweettentations.com. Pretty girls, 60/30 minutes, very polite and reliable service. Highly recommended. You take the exit off of N340 near the Kempinski Hotel Estepona.I was there a couple of weeks ago. I've known the owners for many years. Very nice house with large comfortable rooms. Had a choice of 5 girls. Chose Sofia from Cali Colombia. Great choice. 120€ for an hour plus 25€ BBBJ. Lovely girl, kissed. Unexpected, DATY, Sex in various positions. Massage if wanted. Was given the VIP room as I'm well known there. Probably extra normally. Girls drink 20€ or 25€ - can't remember exactly! Very few girls speak English but Sofia spoke a little. Enough to get by. Girls change fairly quickly, only stay a week or two normally.
Back in E92 last night. Very quiet. Ina not back from Ro and might not be back for one month yet.
All the usual suspect other girls are there. Veronica (looks better than ever with lovely tanned body and her natural large boobs are fabulous), Alicia (very slim blonde Ro with large naturals), both Monika, Beatrice, Julia, Stephanie, Maria (blonde with bob) and several of the Latina girls. Less than normal though.
Far less punters than a month ago despite it being summer.
Talked to a lot of the girls about the proposed legislation. The club has a clear plan to avoid breaking the law which is quite clever. I will not set it out in writing in case of it being viewed by the wrong eyes, but it would very much mean business pretty much as usual albeit without girls parading in the bar / club / casino. But very interestingly, the sense was very much different to when this first broke. At that time I was hearing "it won't happen". Now, the feeling is that it really might do so. What is interesting is that none of the girls I spoke to would go independent in Spain. They all said they would leave for Germany, Austria, Belgium, Portugal or Switzerland. Hence, it might be that Spain gets its wish and drives prostitution underground with a resulting huge hike in prices and dubious practices for the few who remain. As Mongerer88 correctly says. History shows (eg CBJ law in Germany in 2017) that making something illegal drives the price up. This opens opportunities for pimps, traffickers and others to exploit working girls. The general view was that given that there are bordering countries where sale of sex is legal the best thing to do will be just to move. Spain would fall of the map for any sex tourist. Many would say that will be a good thing. For the sex tourist it really doesn't matter where we need to travel to enjoy the sport. But obviously there would be no point coming to Spain for illegal sex if a trip along the coast to Vilamoura, or to Germany or Switzerland offer fully legalised punting with no risks.
Enforcement would very much be questionable. The following link lists every country in the World's position on prostitution in 2022. https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries-where-prostitution-is-legal What is hilarious is that prostitution in Thailand is actually illegal! Fascinating to see entrepreneurial thinking. Offering a dancing lesson for payment cannot be outlawed. Even if the dance leads to sex!
I suppose the oldest profession has faced all these challenges many times in many locations and it will always find a way to survive anywhere.
Not quite sure why E92 was so quiet in the height of summer. Will explore Scandalos in the coming month also and report on it.
OK so didn't expect to be reporting on Scandalos the very next night after E92.
Arrived 11 pm. Left 1. 45 pm.
The club is NOT particularly busy and this was a Thursday night.
Ok for the first 40 minutes I didn't see the bar as I was talking to management about the upcoming laws. They have a totally different model to deploy than E92 but perhaps even more ingenious! It's amazing how the entrepreneurial mind works.
What was fascinating was that a senior local police officer was in the club and I shared a beer with him talking about all of this.
He says there is just no chance of the police cracking down on the large clubs so long as they do something to respect the law by masking it. Be that a hotel, dance club, massage joint, speed dating venue (or whatever, so long as they can lay claim to an "activity" which is not all sexual the word is that there will be little enforcement.
He did say that this won't be the case with villas and small brothels operated by "landlords" who will be scrutinised and prosecuted because the police consider the greatest exploitation to be the "stay here for free if you do me favours" type abuse. He says they have their eyes on 2 in Marbella, one outside of Fuengirola and another in Estepona but he gave no names.
None of this seemed to be of any assurance to the girls at all. They believe the end is in sight for Spain.
I spent my time with the stunning Melissa (Brazilian) though it was was tough turning down the very sexy slim Beya, equally sexy young Betty (red dress brunette) and the sole EE girl Julia (brunette). All three of them have decided to head to Vilamoura if the law comes in. Garbriella, slightly older but pretty Columbian said she will go to Germany.
Melissa was fabulous as always.
Deals to be done to knock down the now standard 250/ hour if you extend to 2 hours which I did. 400/2 hours and again I refuse to pay 30 for the room so tell the girl she has to factor that into her price. Didn't matter. Every girl I spoke to would do 400/120.
The girls are realising punters don't want to blow 50 on girl drinks. I bought three girls drinks - 15 each. I bought them for "myself" on the other side of the bar and gave each girl a 20 tip. So they got a "proper" drink instead of the water filled champagne plus 20 e. They say a lot of guys are now doing this to avoid the 50 girl drink.
As ever the Mamasan tried to end the room 15 minutes early and Melissa berated her. Good job as we then proceeded to 2 hours 14 minutes before the phone rang again.
But it was all very sedate as was E92 and this is summer.
I think we have to face up to facts. The girls are already voting with their feet. Former favs of mine here Anna and Laura have gone to Frankfurt. Lorena wasn't present. In Vilamoura. 90% of the girls Columbiana.
I think by end of 2022 mongering in Spain might be over. Oh for sure there will be the bait and switch local escorts (more likely more bait and switch than ever) but I think it is clear that if the main clubs are starting to be empty in July, the future is away from Spain. I thought I'd be sad about this but in fact I'm not. I've sort of had my fill of the beer-swilling, football shirt dressed, egg and chips brigade. There are far nicer places in the World to enjoy this sport with better options and for better money. I'm probably 18 to 24 months behind The Cane on this but am getting the message. The clubs are going to remain open in other forms. But I suspect the prices will increase again to levels like the US without the quality.
I think by end of 2022 mongering in Spain might be over. Oh for sure there will be the bait and switch local escorts (more likely more bait and switch than ever) but I think it is clear that if the main clubs are starting to be empty in July, the future is away from Spain. I thought I'd be sad about this but in fact I'm not. I've sort of had my fill of the beer-swilling, football shirt dressed, egg and chips brigade. There are far nicer places in the World to enjoy this sport with better options and for better money. I'm probably 18 to 24 months behind The Cane on this but am getting the message. The clubs are going to remain open in other forms. But I suspect the prices will increase again to levels like the US without the quality.Even though as you say, I cut bait a long time ago, I will indeed be very, very sad if it all comes to an end as we club lovers know it in Spain. It was one of my absolute favorite destinations in the world to go to for mongering and more. I've mongered all over that land from north to south to east to west and points in between. So, so many memories. Good memories! My god PFI I fucked so, so many hotties in Spain! Unforgettable sessions, including a couple of duplas (and of course anal)! Now, I know some will come on here and go on about we're being premature here. And maybe that's true. I felt way back when that I could see things going downhill. Prices getting too high and service too uneven. Then this threat comes along. You hope things will turn around and go your way. You hope and pray. But as of this writing, it's not sounding good. And if the end comes in Spain, who says it won't reach Germany next? Sigh!
And if the end comes in Spain, who says it won't reach Germany next? Sigh!Doubt that will ever happen in our lifetimes. Germany and Holland are very proud of their allegedly safe and protective sex industry in which girls can choose freely to offer services in a safe environment. I don't think the Swiss are far behind.
Both clubs were incredibly quiet and it is July. The management at both clubs found it hard to explain, saying that at this time of year they expect the influx of boozy tourists but it is not happening. What is really odd is the contrast in just a few months. I posted here earlier in the year that E92 had its largest occupation rate (girls renting rooms) ever. Apparently that hasn't changed much. There is only ONE room available now for any punter wanting to stay and that is a suite. This must mean all other rooms including 3 suites are occupied by girls. In which case where were they? All very odd indeed.
I too have many memories and will of course never forget the original Melissa. Still the most stunning working girl I have ever seen. Happily married with kids now back in Romania. But they are no better memories (indeed may not quite compare) with those in Germany, Dubai, Singapore, and Thailand. For reasons previously set out the German FKK model is better than anything else I've been to worldwide (and I've still not done Columbia or Brazil). Lazing the whole day with 100+ naked women walking around a pool in hooker heels, rubbing suntan lotion on you or playing in the pool with you, is just unbelievable. But who knows? The woke brigade might even infiltrate Germany! Somehow, something tells me that their culture as a race won't allow woke to defeat entrepreneurial endeavour.
Andalus Expat
07-15-22, 10:51
Both clubs were incredibly quiet and it is July. The management at both clubs found it hard to explain, saying that at this time of year they expect the influx of boozy tourists but it is not happening. What is really odd is the contrast in just a few months. I posted here earlier in the year that E92 had its largest occupation rate (girls renting rooms) ever. Apparently that hasn't changed much. There is only ONE room available now for any punter wanting to stay and that is a suite. This must mean all other rooms including 3 suites are occupied by girls. In which case where were they? All very odd indeed.It's not at all odd if you understand the industry. It's the "grass is always greener" or the "somewhere there's a goldmine" fallacy. The girls have made mistake your club owners have. Because in pre-Covid years the CDS drew in the big spenders, it would do so this year. So far everything's going as I predicted. The northerners aren't coming down here spending money due to their own economic problems. Inflation was an inevitable consequence of the money created during the Covid fiasco. So money's not being fed into the CDS's tourist / hospitality industry. The mainstay of the local economy. Clubs take a double hit. Fewer tourist Euros. More locals have moved to cheaper options. The moronic club managements have done it to themselves. Hiking prices long before there was any sign of a sustained recovery.
Be interesting to see what these 'secret plans' they have for post legislation are. As business managers they're about as incompetent as it's possible to get. You could write a good business management book based on them, entitled "What Not To Do". But then that's true of the entire sex industry. What you get when the majority of people in it have failed at everything else they've tried. Why they're in it.
Snapshot. We spent a pleasant yesterday afternoon at Cabopino. Andy's, where in previos years you'd be fortunate to get a table or sunbed, was half empty. Clientelé overwhelming families & retired couples. Of the working girls usually graze the venue there was one solitary blonde sadly nursing a drink for an hour. The Cubana singer at La Lonja's was excellent, though.
Both clubs were incredibly quiet and it is July. The management at both clubs found it hard to explain, saying that at this time of year they expect the influx of boozy tourists but it is not happening. What is really odd is the contrast in just a few months. I posted here earlier in the year that E92 had its largest occupation rate (girls renting rooms) ever. Apparently that hasn't changed much. There is only ONE room available now for any punter wanting to stay and that is a suite. This must mean all other rooms including 3 suites are occupied by girls. In which case where were they? All very odd indeed. I too have many memories and will of course never forget the original Melissa. Still the most stunning working girl I have ever seen. Happily married with kids now back in Romania.Could it be that world economic troubles like inflation, faltering airline service, and recessionary pressures (among others) are taking hold? And Melissa! We both got some of that! Definitely cream of the crop when it comes to looks. She's another "never forget" for me because after swearing up and down she would not give me a BBBJ, we got up there and what does she do? She gives me a BBBJ without even an iota of urging from me LOL! I remember that she told me she was from Slovenia, and did a good job of selling that too! Do you know anything about the type of guy she married, where from, etc. I mean, does he know she was selling sex in Spain? You know her better than me of course, but I don't know if you know her well enough for her to tell you those kind of things.
It's not at all odd if you understand the industry. It's the "grass is always greener" or the "somewhere there's a goldmine" fallacy. The girls have made mistake your club owners have. Because in pre-Covid years the CDS drew in the big spenders, it would do so this year. So far everything's going as I predicted. The northerners aren't coming down here spending money due to their own economic problems. Inflation was an inevitable consequence of the money created during the Covid fiasco. So money's not being fed into the CDS's tourist / hospitality industry. The mainstay of the local economy. Clubs take a double hit. Fewer tourist Euros. More locals have moved to cheaper options. The moronic club managements have done it to themselves. Hiking prices long before there was any sign of a sustained recovery.We're drawing upon some of the same kinds of reasons to explain what's going on.
Back in E92 last night. Very quiet. Ina not back from Ro and might not be back for one month yet.
All the usual suspect other girls are there. Veronica (looks better than ever with lovely tanned body and her natural large boobs are fabulous), Alicia (very slim blonde Ro with large naturals), both Monika, Beatrice, Julia, Stephanie, Maria (blonde with bob) and several of the Latina girls. Less than normal though.
Far less punters than a month ago despite it being summer.
Talked to a lot of the girls about the proposed legislation. The club has a clear plan to avoid breaking the law which is quite clever. I will not set it out in writing in case of it being viewed by the wrong eyes, but it would very much mean business pretty much as usual albeit without girls parading in the bar / club / casino. But very interestingly, the sense was very much different to when this first broke. At that time I was hearing "it won't happen". Now, the feeling is that it really might do so. What is interesting is that none of the girls I spoke to would go independent in Spain. They all said they would leave for Germany, Austria, Belgium, Portugal or Switzerland. Hence, it might be that Spain gets its wish and drives prostitution underground with a resulting huge hike in prices and dubious practices for the few who remain. As Mongerer88 correctly says. History shows (eg CBJ law in Germany in 2017) that making something illegal drives the price up. This opens opportunities for pimps, traffickers and others to exploit working girls. The general view was that given that there are bordering countries where sale of sex is legal the best thing to do will be just to move. Spain would fall of the map for any sex tourist. Many would say that will be a good thing. For the sex tourist it really doesn't matter where we need to travel to enjoy the sport. But obviously there would be no point coming to Spain for illegal sex if a trip along the coast to Vilamoura, or to Germany or Switzerland offer fully legalised punting with no risks.
Enforcement would very much be questionable. The following link lists every country in the World's position on prostitution in 2022. https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries-where-prostitution-is-legal What is hilarious is that prostitution in Thailand is actually illegal! Fascinating to see entrepreneurial thinking. Offering a dancing lesson for payment cannot be outlawed. Even if the dance leads to sex!
I suppose the oldest profession has faced all these challenges many times in many locations and it will always find a way to survive anywhere.
Not quite sure why E92 was so quiet in the height of summer. Will explore Scandalos in the coming month also and report on it.What did were you there? How was the quality?
Dunno why it was quiet because it is quite busy at nights, that's why all the rooms are taken.
It is true that the economy situation is not good and that's affecting everything, and it seems that its going to get worse if the current situation continues and we don't see a change of policy.
About the new law, don't think its going to happen, at least in the format that is now being discussed, why? Because it is just not practical, you can't force people not to do a job they want to do, France tried a few years ago, did it change anything? Not really. The only way to solve this is to leave things as it is or regulate it.
About the new law, don't think its going to happen, at least in the format that is now being discussed, why? Because it is just not practical, you can't force people not to do a job they want to do, France tried a few years ago, did it change anything? Not really. The only way to solve this is to leave things as it is or regulate it.Ha! That doesn't mean anything! It's all about saying and doing the "moral" thing. It's just like the condom law in Germany. Totally impractical to enforce. And BBBJ / CIM service kept going on, although at a higher price. So, maybe Germany can hold some instructive hope out for the industry in Spain. If these legal changes do happen in Spain, then maybe just maybe the clubs can find a way for it to be business as usual, albeit at a higher price maybe, just like in Germany. That's nothing that would draw me back to Spain, but still I don't want to see the whole scene there have to go mostly underground. That's neither good for the sex workers nor their customers. Spain still holds a special place in my heart!
Andalus Expat
07-16-22, 12:09
Ha! That doesn't mean anything! It's all about saying and doing the "moral" thing. It's just like the condom law in Germany. Totally impractical to enforce. And BBBJ / CIM service kept going on, although at a higher price. So, maybe Germany can hold some instructive hope out for the industry in Spain. If these legal changes do happen in Spain, then maybe just maybe the clubs can find a way for it to be business as usual, albeit at a higher price maybe, just like in Germany. That's nothing that would draw me back to Spain, but still I don't want to see the whole scene there have to go mostly underground. That's neither good for the sex workers nor their customers. Spain still holds a special place in my heart!I can't see any reason at all for higher prices. That defies economics. There's a vast surplus of girls trying to work over the numbers of punters wanting them now. This has been true all through history because there's an unlimited supply of women wanting to rent out the assets. The legislation is intended to & will hit the demand side. So market pressures will be towards lower prices.
Roughly what we've been seeing since Covid hit. Outside of the clubs prices are down around 25%. Although that's not necessarly what you'll see in the adverts but what it's possible to negotiate. Example's a girl I see regularly. Before Covid she wanted 150/ hour incalls. I've moved her over to visiting me but she's still content content with 150/ hour. Before, that would have been plus 50 for the outcall plus another 30 for taxis. I'm also being offered the full menu at that price, whereas that would generally be at least another 50. That lot adds up to around 45% reduction. She must regard me as a good reliable frequent client worth keeping. However her agency listing is more like the big figures.
I don't know exactly what's going on inside the clubs you go to because I don't know any Spanish who use them to ask. Generally, foreign tourists get clipped for at least 20% if the girls think they can get away with it. Which mostly they do. With the clubs you're self limiting because of your reluctance to operate outside of them The girls know this so they hold the whip hand. Spanish locals don't have this so can go elsewhere & do. My guess is if the clubs try hiking prices they'll just dig a bigger hole for themselves. There isn't the demand.
PayForIt says the girls are talking about leaving Spain for other countries. Where? The situation economically across Europe is almost as bad as here. If Germany loses its gas supplies half its industries will be shutting down. Girls returning from tours up there are saying they've earned much less than previous years. Sounds more like puta hopefulness than reality.
I can't see any reason at all for higher prices. That defies economics. There's a vast surplus of girls trying to work over the numbers of punters wanting them now. This has been true all through history because there's an unlimited supply of women wanting to rent out the assets. The legislation is intended to & will hit the demand side. So market pressures will be towards lower prices.There was no real "reason" to raise prices in the FKK clubs after the condom law went into effect if you ask me. It's just that greedy, opportunistic tutes saw it as a way to get more. "I'm doing something I'm not supposed to. So, I want 50 euros more". I predict the same thing can and will happen in Spain if this proposed new legislation is passed. Why? Because just as in Germany, I don't expect that demand will go down as you assume. I expect that it will remain the same with plenty of mongers willing to take some reasonable risks to still keep drilling tute P4P. And with demand remaining as strong as ever, the tutes working in Spain will have the same bargaining power as the FKK tutes to extract more monger money. "You want that? OK, I'll do it. But, you'll have to pay me more money since it's illegal"! And they will get it too. Because demand for tute pussy will remain very, very strong. That's my take on potential future price hikes based on this proposed new legislation in Spain. Of course, there are other factors that could introduce themselves and impact everything too. I mean, what if the world spins into a deep recession? Right now, mongers with cash are still spending despite global inflationary pressures. But what if we have a deep and long recession putting the brakes on not just the sex industry, but pretty much every other industry too? Well, of course tute pricing would be impacted by such conditions as well. In the end, only time will tell. I hope the abominable legislation doesn't pass is what!
The problem is that many people in this business don't understand economy, the prices should in fact go down because the demand has fallen, but instead it has gone up. The reason if you ask them is that everythings more expensive (inflation) so they say how can you expect the prices to go down when everything else has gone up (dunno maybe a fair point). But again the problem is that many guys decide to visit these places less and save money for other things so that's why many tutes don't have work, they want more money and guys don't have it so they decide to visit the cheap ones or cut the frequency of doing it.
Both clubs quite busy, the quality is really great. Many new faces (but then I don't go that often so maybe for me they are new, payforit who goes more frequently should confirm whether they are new or been there for a few months).
Quality at scandalo is better (most of the girls are quite good) but estark is also great, you will def find at least 10-15 8's or 9's, so no problem, lots of options. There are much more tourists in estark than scandalo, so be careful not to fall into girls tourist category. Saw many tourists go up and then are back down after 10 min,. And in scandalo the bell rings nearly 15 min early so.
Hi there,
Long time lurker but have not been so active on the forum. Not the most experienced when it comes to punting in CDS.
I'm staying near Bombon and Glass Palace and was wondering if anyone here has any recent experience with those places?
I've rtff'the but couldn't find any info.
Also noticed that Glass Palace now has a hotel sign on the building as well. Gives room service a whole new dimension.Nice area you are in on New Golden Mile which has seen a lot of development including the impressive Ikos hotel. If you are staying there you have plenty of cash!
Bombom is a disaster. I would avoid. Only 5 girls work there. Mostly fat and unattractive. One pretty Romanian Michaela. Blonde and slim but MILF and in the room (May) some body odour issues. Much better options elsewhere. GP is expensive. The Line up varies a lot. Several very pretty black girls there in May. 10 e entry gets you a drink. They don't serve wine. Little action before 11.30 pm. Rooms are only 60 e to hire for the night as a "hotel" and they are exceptionally good quality. Almost worth it to be able to pop in and out of the club as freely as you like. The girls also believe you are a good customer if you have taken a room as well.
Line up is very hit and miss though each night. I've been in there in the past 12 months and been spoilt for choice and then other nights I've struggled with any options.
They now want 200/ hour though they will try for 250 or 220. Most take 200 as it is not that busy. If you head there please report back.
Both clubs quite busy, the quality is really great. Many new faces (but then I don't go that often so maybe for me they are new, payforit who goes more frequently should confirm whether they are new or been there for a few months).
Quality at scandalo is better (most of the girls are quite good) but estark is also great, you will def find at least 10-15 8's or 9's, so no problem, lots of options. There are much more tourists in estark than scandalo, so be careful not to fall into girls tourist category. Saw many tourists go up and then are back down after 10 min,. And in scandalo the bell rings nearly 15 min early so.Both clubs oddly quiet last week as reported but still with many good options. I don't consider Scandalos to be markedly better at the moment. It does have 5 very slim and pretty girls who look very young. Maybe 18 or 19. One in particular I asked how old she was and she said 18 and I actually doubted it but I know the club wouldn't allow her to work there without proof of age so she must be.
Stephanie. Tall brunette at E92 is looking absolutely stunning, as is Veronica with a fabulously tanned body.
Both clubs oddly quiet last week as reported but still with many good options. I don't consider Scandalos to be markedly better at the moment. It does have 5 very slim and pretty girls who look very young. Maybe 18 or 19. One in particular I asked how old she was and she said 18 and I actually doubted it but I know the club wouldn't allow her to work there without proof of age so she must be.
Stephanie. Tall brunette at E92 is looking absolutely stunning, as is Veronica with a fabulously tanned body.Is this stephany new? Or is she julias friend?
I still haven't been able to find veronica and the brunette (forgot her name) your favorite who is a bit bad tempered.
Nice area you are in on New Golden Mile which has seen a lot of development including the impressive Ikos hotel. If you are staying there you have plenty of cash!
LOL, not loaded with cash. Staying in a rather average Airbnb near the russian church. Thanks for the tips and advice. I'll make sure to write a report if I end up going to GP.
Is this stephany new? Or is she julias friend?
I still haven't been able to find veronica and the brunette (forgot her name) your favorite who is a bit bad tempered.Veronica was there tonight. Blonde, short hair flicked back, beautiful looking girl with fabulous naturals (sees) and terrific service. Another two hours with her tonight. Fabulous.
I did one hour tonight with the other Julia. Brunette, lovely girl, only perhaps 6/10 looks but great naturals and service.
Monika was there tonight. Still feisty but looked stunning and shared some champagne with her. Long white dress. Very pretty and great figure. But the list of what she won't do is longer than what she will do. But if she fits what the punter wants she is exceptional with a fabulous body and good looks.
Is this stephany new? Or is she julias friend?Sorry missed this. No not Julia's friend. A different Stephanie. Tall and very slim.
The club was still quiet for summer last night but got busy after midnight.
Had another successful night in E92 (Wednesday).
Saw the report from hHahn in the main CDS (wrong place for clubs but nice report).
There are a couple of points I would take issue with in his report. Firstly there are many girls well over 30 in Scandalos. Secondly a drink for the lady is minimum 50 euros not 30, thirdly E92 is not filthy at all. I've stayed there many times and personally witnessed the level of cleaning and hygiene every morning after the night before. It is a very deep clean every day. Not fair to malign the club without proper knowledge.
Hahn thinks some of the girls in E92 are gypsies. That is because they are! Many are not. Plenty are. So what? Some of the best girls in Scandalos are from very dodgy backgrounds in Columbia! Doesn't make them any less attractive.
Having sessioned twice with the very lovely and very pretty Veronica, decided to enjoy a different threesome with Maria (blonde Ro with bob hair) and Angie (brunette Ro very slim). Great fun.
Prices have gone to 200/ hour but the girls will still negotiate down to 150/ hour if you book longer than an hour. I took 2 hours with the above ladies for 300 each.
The club was busy by 1 am and pretty active when I was leaving at 2 am.
Hello PFI,
I forgot to add, my opinions are purely personal opinions, including nature of looks, age & hygiene.
I can also confirm that I have no other commercial motives. What I saw and what I experienced should help my fella chums mongering.
That's the spirit of a public forum.
Chill pill.
Had another successful night in E92 (Wednesday).
Saw the report from hHahn in the main CDS (wrong place for clubs but nice report).
There are a couple of points I would take issue with in his report. Firstly there are many girls well over 30 in Scandalos. Secondly a drink for the lady is minimum 50 euros not 30, thirdly E92 is not filthy at all. I've stayed there many times and personally witnessed the level of cleaning and hygiene every morning after the night before. It is a very deep clean every day. Not fair to malign the club without proper knowledge.
Hahn thinks some of the girls in E92 are gypsies. That is because they are! Many are not. Plenty are. So what? Some of the best girls in Scandalos are from very dodgy backgrounds in Columbia! Doesn't make them any less attractive.
Having sessioned twice with the very lovely and very pretty Veronica, decided to enjoy a different threesome with Maria (blonde Ro with bob hair) and Angie (brunette Ro very slim). Great fun.
Prices have gone to 200/ hour but the girls will still negotiate down to 150/ hour if you book longer than an hour. I took 2 hours with the above ladies for 300 each.
The club was busy by 1 am and pretty active when I was leaving at 2 am.
Unfortunately, this economic theory doesn't work in this trade.
Imagine a guy who hasn't had sex in the last 2 years due to Covid & lockdown. Will he be willing to pay more or pay less for his next encounter?
Now imagine a lady who used to make $3000 every month by selling her skin. She too had no steady income thanks to Covid. So now when she resumes, would she want to earn more or less?
The law of supply and demand takes time to attain equilibrium after unrest.
The problem is that many people in this business don't understand economy, the prices should in fact go down because the demand has fallen, but instead it has gone up. The reason if you ask them is that everythings more expensive (inflation) so they say how can you expect the prices to go down when everything else has gone up (dunno maybe a fair point). But again the problem is that many guys decide to visit these places less and save money for other things so that's why many tutes don't have work, they want more money and guys don't have it so they decide to visit the cheap ones or cut the frequency of doing it.
Had another successful night in E92 (Wednesday).
Saw the report from hHahn in the main CDS (wrong place for clubs but nice report).
There are a couple of points I would take issue with in his report. Firstly there are many girls well over 30 in Scandalos. Secondly a drink for the lady is minimum 50 euros not 30, thirdly E92 is not filthy at all. I've stayed there many times and personally witnessed the level of cleaning and hygiene every morning after the night before. It is a very deep clean every day. Not fair to malign the club without proper knowledge.
Hahn thinks some of the girls in E92 are gypsies. That is because they are! Many are not. Plenty are. So what? Some of the best girls in Scandalos are from very dodgy backgrounds in Columbia! Doesn't make them any less attractive.
Having sessioned twice with the very lovely and very pretty Veronica, decided to enjoy a different threesome with Maria (blonde Ro with bob hair) and Angie (brunette Ro very slim). Great fun.
Prices have gone to 200/ hour but the girls will still negotiate down to 150/ hour if you book longer than an hour. I took 2 hours with the above ladies for 300 each.
The club was busy by 1 am and pretty active when I was leaving at 2 am.Thanks for the report.
So is it worth visiting now? How many are working ATM? Any new faces worth trying?
Unfortunately, this economic theory doesn't work in this trade.
Imagine a guy who hasn't had sex in the last 2 years due to Covid & lockdown. Will he be willing to pay more or pay less for his next encounter?
Now imagine a lady who used to make $3000 every month by selling her skin. She too had no steady income thanks to Covid. So now when she resumes, would she want to earn more or less?
The law of supply and demand takes time to attain equilibrium after unrest.Fair enough. I agree that it takes a few months till new equilibrium is reached.
You said that you paid 90 e 30 min in scandalo? Are you sure? Because that's cheaper than estark and as far as I know in estark majority want 100 e 30 min.
So decided to head to Scandalos with mucho dinero in my pocket for the stunning 20 year old chicas that Hahn reported not.
Got there 11 pm after booking into Malaga Nostrum. Dead. Little or no talent - 95% fat ugly latinas I wouldn't do for free.
Decided to be patient. Waited 45 minutes and not a single girl over 7/10 appeared.
Paid the 40 euros taxi to E92. Never done this before but Scandalos was awful. Quality of options in the negative.
Got to E92 midnight OMG. Could have chosen any of 15 very slim, stunning girls. Decided on someone new for me. Sophia - Columbiana - 200/ hour or 300/2 hours. As first time with this die-for body girl I chose 1 hour and had a fabulous time.
To the bar, recovery, 20 minutes then back onto room with Melissa. Brazilian brunette - 9/10 body and service.
There were a LOT of new girls. Many far better than Scanadalos.
Taxi back 40 e.
Into Scanadalos, great vibe. A lot of people there at 3 am. Chose slim Becky. Slim from Paraguay. She wanted 250 but we agree the. 200 as it was late. Very good indeed.
On this showing. E92 is better value, better girls, better options, all round better than Scandalos.
So decided to head to Scandalos with mucho dinero in my pocket for the stunning 20 year old chicas that Hahn reported not.
Got there 11 pm after booking into Malaga Nostrum. Dead. Little or no talent - 95% fat ugly latinas I wouldn't do for free.
Decided to be patient. Waited 45 minutes and not a single girl over 7/10 appeared.
Paid the 40 euros taxi to E92. Never done this before but Scandalos was awful. Quality of options in the negative.
Got to E92 midnight OMG. Could have chosen any of 15 very slim, stunning girls. Decided on someone new for me. Sophia - Columbiana - 200/ hour or 300/2 hours. As first time with this die-for body girl I chose 1 hour and had a fabulous time.
To the bar, recovery, 20 minutes then back onto room with Melissa. Brazilian brunette - 9/10 body and service.
There were a LOT of new girls. Many far better than Scanadalos.
Taxi back 40 e.
Into Scanadalos, great vibe. A lot of people there at 3 am. Chose slim Becky. Slim from Paraguay. She wanted 250 but we agree the. 200 as it was late. Very good indeed.
On this showing. E92 is better value, better girls, better options, all round better than Scandalos.Great report thanks.
Did melissa and sophia offer BBBJ and / or DFK? As I don't repeat I just want the ones willing to do it on the first occasion.
Also could you please clarify the rates. Is it 200 e an hour (100 30 min) or is it 150 e an hour as hahhn reported?
Andalus Expat
07-30-22, 16:17
So decided to head to Scandalos with mucho dinero in my pocket for the stunning 20 year old chicas that Hahn reported not.
Got there 11 pm after booking into Malaga Nostrum. Dead. Little or no talent - 95% fat ugly latinas I wouldn't do for free.
Decided to be patient. Waited 45 minutes and not a single girl over 7/10 appeared.
Paid the 40 euros taxi to E92. Never done this before but Scandalos was awful. Quality of options in the negative.
Got to E92 midnight OMG. Could have chosen any of 15 very slim, stunning girls. Decided on someone new for me. Sophia - Columbiana - 200/ hour or 300/2 hours. As first time with this die-for body girl I chose 1 hour and had a fabulous time.
To the bar, recovery, 20 minutes then back onto room with Melissa. Brazilian brunette - 9/10 body and service.
There were a LOT of new girls. Many far better than Scanadalos.
Taxi back 40 e.
Into Scanadalos, great vibe. A lot of people there at 3 am. Chose slim Becky. Slim from Paraguay. She wanted 250 but we agree the. 200 as it was late. Very good indeed.
On this showing. E92 is better value, better girls, better options, all round better than Scandalos.So 480 euros, plus hotel overlooking a sewage plant, plus drinks, plus the brasileña. And I've seen some of your 9/10's. 700+ euros? You're a glutton for punishment, aren't you? If it all happened.
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Andalus Expat
07-30-22, 20:45
Great report thanks.
Did melissa and sophia offer BBBJ and / or DFK? As I don't repeat I just want the ones willing to do it on the first occasion.
Also could you please clarify the rates. Is it 200 e an hour (100 30 min) or is it 150 e an hour as hahhn reported?Quite why you'd want to put your tongue where the previous client had his cock is something only you can say. But neither are questions can be answered. It's not like renting a hotel room, with or without bathroom, on the internet. The answer's always going to depend on the particular client at the time. So two previous clients of the same girl could give different replies. Both of them meaningless. If you'd seen some of the clients you'd understand why.
Great report thanks.
Did melissa and sophia offer BBBJ and / or DFK? As I don't repeat I just want the ones willing to do it on the first occasion.
Also could you please clarify the rates. Is it 200 e an hour (100 30 min) or is it 150 e an hour as hahhn reported?Both gave BBBJ and DFK without request. Sophia says she has worked at the club 3 years but I've never seen her before. Melissa said she lives in Madrid and works in Vive and is going back Monday so I doubt you'll see here unless you go tomorrow. Both charged 200/ hour. Earlier in the week my session with Ange and Maria was 300/ each for 2 hours (so 150/ hour). I think the only way to get to 150/ hour now is to book for longer than 1 hour.
Both gave BBBJ and DFK without request. Sophia says she has worked at the club 3 years but I've never seen her before. Melissa said she lives in Madrid and works in Vive and is going back Monday so I doubt you'll see here unless you go tomorrow. Both charged 200/ hour. Earlier in the week my session with Ange and Maria was 300/ each for 2 hours (so 150/ hour). I think the only way to get to 150/ hour now is to book for longer than 1 hour.Thanks. So it seems that its worth a visit. How does sophia look like? Lets see if I can find her.
Quite why you'd want to put your tongue where the previous client had his cock is something only you can say. But neither are questions can be answered. It's not like renting a hotel room, with or without bathroom, on the internet. The answer's always going to depend on the particular client at the time. So two previous clients of the same girl could give different replies. Both of them meaningless. If you'd seen some of the clients you'd understand why.
Hahah I normally don't do DFK but the thing is I want to know if they do it or not. Because if they say no then up there they will def say no to many other things so its always better to know that they provide all services.
but you are right , depends on the guy and whether she likes him or not, but some just never do it ,no matter how handsome you are
I was in Scandalo last night, I had 3 K in my pocket.
I absolutely blew the lot on so many girls I can't honestly remember, I got in the taxi and went back to my imaginary place on the Costa Del Sol and found one euro. Put it on the wheel at the casino and won. Big time.
Get this. 500,000.
I then went to E92. (I didn't find it dirty?
But I did get lots of complaints from a lot of girls about a guy who is middle- aged. Has a tiny penis, is an absolute bore. And is a total scruff.
I blew my half million and wondered if I've heard about this guy before?Which place was better?92 or scandalo?
So 480 euros, plus hotel overlooking a sewage plant, plus drinks, plus the brasilea. And I've seen some of your 9/10's. 700+ euros? You're a glutton for punishment, aren't you? If it all happened.It's up to me isn't it? My money. Far from "glutton for punishment" I had a great night. I work very had to make good money. How I spend it is up to me and I didn't regret a cent. I'm not into purchasing "take a chance on what she really looks like sex". We've had this debate a million times. I want a guarantee of some great fun with pretty girls. I had that great fun.
You've seen some of my 9/10's? I've never once seen you post a report commenting on a single girl I've ever quoted as a 9. In fact with only a few exceptions, there are not many 9's (facially) though there are several 9's bodily in E92- you wouldn't know. You either never go at all, or you go at 5 pm, or you spend 30 minutes in the place (heaven knows why when you have described the clubs as grubby etc).
The "if it happened" comment questions integrity. I don't need to tell lies. I've reported on mongering in many continents over many years. I believe you will find that many posters (The Cane / Teddy Bears / Sirioja / Tintin and many others) can verify the accuracy of my reports including girls names. Indeed one of our posters here. Qaz - I pointed him to the earlier Julia in E92 and he sessioned with her. She was indeed a 9/10 overall looks. I have recommended Ina to many. And had a lot of guys PM thanks to me as she is exceptional. I pointed Qaz to the previous Stephany. Again. Terrific. So all of these very accurate reports, accurate on service, accurate on looks, body, what they offer etc. But suddenly "if it happened". LOL. Hilarious.
As I've stated before, you have pontificated about how other punters are "starting to get on the right track" is if you are an esteemed expert, and have this irritating habit of talking nonsense about things you know nothing about. What you don't do is hardly ever post a single report about an experience. Hence, when reading about a great night I have enjoyed. Whatever it cost, is there just a shade of green monster?
Nobody stays at MN for its beauty. It's location next to the club is all that matters. I had no intention of taxing to E92 and back (and have never done that before) but the options early on in Scandalos were really terrible.
Do us all a favour and actually post something of real value about actual experiences. Are you and Jummy1 related?
I was in Scandalo last night, I had 3 K in my pocket.
I absolutely blew the lot on so many girls I can't honestly remember, I got in the taxi and went back to my imaginary place on the Costa Del Sol and found one euro. Put it on the wheel at the casino and won. Big time.
Get this. 500,000.
I then went to E92. (I didn't find it dirty?
But I did get lots of complaints from a lot of girls about a guy who is middle- aged. Has a tiny penis, is an absolute bore. And is a total scruff.
I blew my half million and wondered if I've heard about this guy before?I'll ask you the same question as I did Andalus Expert. Are you related?!
When did you last (or in fact ever) post a report about experiences? Good ones or bad? Why do you bother reading the forum at all?
Talk about green monsters! Go get some fun of your own and post something of value. Or if reports from others providing actual details of actual clubs, actual names of girls, comments on how busy or not clubs are / how good or not girls are, of no interest or value to you, then don't read them!
It's up to me isn't it? My money. Far from "glutton for punishment" I had a great night. I work very had to make good money. How I spend it is up to me and I didn't regret a cent. I'm not into purchasing "take a chance on what she really looks like sex". We've had this debate a million times. I want a guarantee of some great fun with pretty girls. I had that great fun.
You've seen some of my 9/10's? I've never once seen you post a report commenting on a single girl I've ever quoted as a 9. In fact with only a few exceptions, there are not many 9's (facially) though there are several 9's bodily in E92- you wouldn't know. You either never go at all, or you go at 5 pm, or you spend 30 minutes in the place (heaven knows why when you have described the clubs as grubby etc).
The "if it happened" comment questions integrity. I don't need to tell lies. I've reported on mongering in many continents over many years. I believe you will find that many posters (The Cane / Teddy Bears / Sirioja / Tintin and many others) can verify the accuracy of my reports including girls names. Indeed one of our posters here. Qaz - I pointed him to the earlier Julia in E92 and he sessioned with her. She was indeed a 9/10 overall looks. I have recommended Ina to many. And had a lot of guys PM thanks to me as she is exceptional. I pointed Qaz to the previous Stephany. Again. Terrific. So all of these very accurate reports, accurate on service, accurate on looks, body, what they offer etc. But suddenly "if it happened". LOL. Hilarious.
As I've stated before, you have pontificated about how other punters are "starting to get on the right track" is if you are an esteemed expert, and have this irritating habit of talking nonsense about things you know nothing about. What you don't do is hardly ever post a single report about an experience. Hence, when reading about a great night I have enjoyed. Whatever it cost, is there just a shade of green monster?
Nobody stays at MN for its beauty. It's location next to the club is all that matters. I had no intention of taxing to E92 and back (and have never done that before) but the options early on in Scandalos were really terrible.
Do us all a favour and actually post something of real value about actual experiences. Are you and Jummy1 related?BTW has the first stephany disappeared again?
Anyone has visited milday recently? They must have some great ones since its summer.
Also anyone knows anything about selecta?
BTW has the first stephany disappeared again?
Anyone has visited milday recently? They must have some great ones since its summer.
Also anyone knows anything about selecta?Yep Stephany is no longer at the club. Hasn't been in 2022. Stephanie. Also Ro Brunette, is there, pretty 8/10 and very slim with good service. BTW Ina has left. She has returned home and is trying to give this work up completely. Always tough for the ladies but I really hope she makes it and does well. Lovely lady. A loss to us customers as she was exceptional.
I've not been back to Miladys for some time. Just don't see the justification for crazy 350/ hour prices. The quality is not so much higher if at all. Indeed, on last weekend's showing, unless you are a big fan of huge fat Latina asses, E92's offering of ladies is far superior to Scandalos. At least until about 1 am when some of the best looking girls in Scandalos come to join the party.
I don't even know if Selecta is open and again, struggle to even try it when the options at nearby E92 are so good. I don't even tend to head down the coast now to Cleofas and Fontana but will definitely give that a shot before the end of this year.
I'm off the CDS now. Had enough of the horrendous humidity and work beckons so won't be hitting any of the clubs now until either mid September or even October depending on other travel plans. Enjoy and do please report your experiences if you visit any of the clubs. Thanks.
Andalus Expat
08-01-22, 20:25
It's up to me isn't it? My money. Far from "glutton for punishment" I had a great night. I work very had to make good money. How I spend it is up to me and I didn't regret a cent. I'm not into purchasing "take a chance on what she really looks like sex". We've had this debate a million times. I want a guarantee of some great fun with pretty girls. I had that great fun.
You've seen some of my 9/10's? I've never once seen you post a report commenting on a single girl I've ever quoted as a 9. In fact with only a few exceptions, there are not many 9's (facially) though there are several 9's bodily in E92- you wouldn't know. You either never go at all, or you go at 5 pm, or you spend 30 minutes in the place (heaven knows why when you have described the clubs as grubby etc).
The "if it happened" comment questions integrity. I don't need to tell lies. I've reported on mongering in many continents over many years. I believe you will find that many posters (The Cane / Teddy Bears / Sirioja / Tintin and many others) can verify the accuracy of my reports including girls names. Indeed one of our posters here. Qaz - I pointed him to the earlier Julia in E92 and he sessioned with her. She was indeed a 9/10 overall looks. I have recommended Ina to many. And had a lot of guys PM thanks to me as she is exceptional. I pointed Qaz to the previous Stephany. Again. Terrific. So all of these very accurate reports, accurate on service, accurate on looks, body, what they offer etc. But suddenly "if it happened". LOL. Hilarious.
As I've stated before, you have pontificated about how other punters are "starting to get on the right track" is if you are an esteemed expert, and have this irritating habit of talking nonsense about things you know nothing about. What you don't do is hardly ever post a single report about an experience. Hence, when reading about a great night I have enjoyed. Whatever it cost, is there just a shade of green monster?
Nobody stays at MN for its beauty. It's location next to the club is all that matters. I had no intention of taxing to E92 and back (and have never done that before) but the options early on in Scandalos were really terrible.
Do us all a favour and actually post something of real value about actual experiences. Are you and Jummy1 related?PayForIt. I was in Estark around the same time as you were. Bit after midnight. Maybe you saw me. With a skinny mulata, blonde curly hair. We dropped in for cigarettes from the ever useful machine on the way home. Stayed for a drink. I didn't see anything warranted a 9 in the club. Usual bunch of non-descript xicas. Some of the usual prospective punters. Didn't see any obvious big spenders. Maybe you'd already taken all the 9's upstairs? Or maybe I don't look at women with my optic nerves connected directly to the brain in my trousers. Puticlub, lighting well salted with UV, plenty of slap, anything can look good. See them outside in daylight. I do know girls might rate a 9. They don't hang around Estark all night, balanced on stilettos with their back killing them, in the hope of trapping a drunk for half an hour money. They're not in that market by a long way.
You want information? There's numbers of Estark girls renting rooms around here & working from them with ads. Makes economic sense. Room in the season might be 200 tops. Pay for that with a couple of clients. Extends their effective working day from 4 to 24 hours. Just work Estark in the busy periods. Cover a worthwhile night outcall out of the club, for that matter. There's girls always done this. Maria / Romania & the mulata with the siilicons, said she was Dominicana but really Nigeria, from a few years back. (Maria worked out of a room near what was the Cybercafe. Where the club Romanas used to hang out.) But a lot more now. So the clever punter can get the same goods for half the price. You can ask what you call your friends. But I doubt if they'll tell you. They're not that stupid.
"What you don't do is hardly ever post a single report about an experience. " There's lots of reports over on the main CDS board over years. I also have a policy. I rarely report on girls I've already reported on. I don't do "what I did on my holidays reports". It's boring & I'm not on holiday, here. I don't report on girls not worth meeting unless it's a warning. I never report on girls who are only here for a short time. There's no point. What with the site 'to pixel' lagtime & the lagtime of readers seeing it, they're going to be gone before anyone can take advantage of the report. And the turnover time at the moment is abnormally high. Has been for a while. Same also applies to clubs. Sure there's some girls will do a season in one club. But there's also a circuit of girls work Spain's clubs. They go where they think they'll make money. If they don't, they move on to another club. Their time horizons are short because whilst they're in any club they're burning money. Burn it all & they can't travel & can't work. So a report on any girl at any club may have a very short useful life. I do try quite hard to ensure anyone reading my reports can get in touch with the girl concerned. Difficult on this site which will not allow published phone numbers. Usually by way of a link to a long running ad or a search clue with her name, where & the last 3 figures of her number. Failing that I'm always willing to assist via PMs. Personally, I've never seen what value your reports have. Apart from telling us what a big punter you are. Clubs most people know about & what you paid. What you say was there on the night you say you visited. That can change in a day. If I'd been looking for Melissa or Sofia last night could I have found her? Any girl's willing to be Melissa if I ask for her. Few girls would point me at Sophia if I was standing next to her. They want to trap a client, not give him to other girls. Maybe they're of vicarious pleasure to blokes been to the clubs in the past. A lot of people post on this board don't seem to be in-country at the time or been here any time recent. I've looked through posts made by The Cane back to May this year. That's 250 posts. Wow! He seems to be an expert on half the world. But not a single report from anywhere. Not someone I'd want to validate me. Teddy Bears I think was here couple of weeks ago because he Whatsapped me asking about an appointment with a particular girl. He doesn't seem to have reported on his visit. But least he's been here. You been here other times since we met in '19 TB? And here's a thing PayForIt. I've met quite a few ISG posters. Others I know from phone conversations. I've asked around & none of them have met you. You must be a very private person for someone who talks so much about himself. PayForIt really exist? It'd be a piece of cake to write club reports without going near one from one year to another. Most can be scraped from other people's posts. There's so little in them verifiable. Maybe I ought to take the mulata down to Estark tonight, try & find a Melissa or a Sophia (or Sofia since she's colombiana). Girls will talk with her if not to me. Including about clients.
Yep Stephany is no longer at the club. Hasn't been in 2022. Stephanie. Also Ro Brunette, is there, pretty 8/10 and very slim with good service. BTW Ina has left. She has returned home and is trying to give this work up completely. Always tough for the ladies but I really hope she makes it and does well. Lovely lady. A loss to us customers as she was exceptional.
I've not been back to Miladys for some time. Just don't see the justification for crazy 350/ hour prices. The quality is not so much higher if at all. Indeed, on last weekend's showing, unless you are a big fan of huge fat Latina asses, E92's offering of ladies is far superior to Scandalos. At least until about 1 am when some of the best looking girls in Scandalos come to join the party.
I don't even know if Selecta is open and again, struggle to even try it when the options at nearby E92 are so good. I don't even tend to head down the coast now to Cleofas and Fontana but will definitely give that a shot before the end of this year.
I'm off the CDS now. Had enough of the horrendous humidity and work beckons so won't be hitting any of the clubs now until either mid September or even October depending on other travel plans. Enjoy and do please report your experiences if you visit any of the clubs. Thanks.Oh that's a pity. You sure? She may come back?
BTW how does sophia look like? I may go this week and want to find her. As andaluzexpat says I def can't ask other girls, so wud be helpful if you cud say more about her.
Oh that's a pity. You sure? She may come back?
BTW how does sophia look like? I may go this week and want to find her. As andaluzexpat says I def can't ask other girls, so wud be helpful if you cud say more about her.I got the impression that Ina will try very hard not to return. I wish her well and hope she can break free. If not, she will be welcomed back with open arms!
Sophia is Columbian, shoulder length brunette. Absolutely banging body. Wore a white swimsuit in the bar with heels and looked knockout. Facially pretty but not as good as her body which was standout. Not a huge Latina ass. She is also very good company. A word of warning. She speaks almost no English so if your Spanish isn't at least acceptable you might struggle unless you do a quick 30 minutes optifuk.
You should not worry about asking for her. Absolutely no issue. Go to Sandra on reception (where you get your towels) she is the one with the Purple hair! She is lovely and very helpful. If you tell her that a friend recommended Sophia (Columbian) and you wanted to meet her, almost certainly Sandra will know her. If she doesn't, ask either of the two managers in the club. Depending on what night you go, it will either be Juan. White haired older guy. Sits in the office in the corridor between casino and bar, or younger guy, short dark hair. Cornel. Both of them pretty much know all of the girls by name though Cornel more so than Juan. Again, they will tell you if Sophia is working but I got the impression she works most nights. She didn't hit the bar until midnight.
As for not asking the girls. Andalus Expert is wrong (again). You shouldn't worry about asking them. Whilst they are in competition they like paying customers and they will hope that if they locate your desired girl you might reward them with a drink. Up to you (but be careful about spending too much as it goes down really badly with other members of ISG Spanish forums!
Look out for blonde curly Alicia. She is Romanian but a lovely girl and will not be offended at all if you ask for another girl. Though she won't mix with the Columbians and might not know her.
Finally, if none of the above works, ask one of the bar tenders. The one who mainly works in the casino bar is David. Been there a long time, not young. He will 100% find out where Sophia is for you in the club.
Hope you find her. As you liked Julia and Stephany I think you'll find Sophia to your liking, she's great fun, great body, excellent service. Won't budge from the 200/ hour.
Of course I could have made the whole of the above up. The names of the managers, girls, bar staff and even Sophia as we had Andalus Expert questioning whether I even had the night I reported upon. So if you get to the club and there is no manager Juan, no manager Cornel, no bar manager David, no Sandra on reception, no Columbian Sophia, no Alicia, please post a report which says Andalus Expert is right and I've never even been to the club. Or head over to the imaginary Scandalos, where Ibrahim is a mirage of a bouncer on the door, Roberto and Gemma are the imaginary managers, and Becky and Melissa are two working girls in my mind rather than girls I sessioned with last week.
Or maybe. Just maybe. You might find that like my reports on Julia which led you to enjoy time with her, or Stephany (ditto), and others (Ina / Veronica etc) that I don't make shit up, I just report on what happened. For the benefit of others to know which clubs are busy, which clubs have decent options, how many punters there were, what the pricing structures are (good or bad), and what good or bad experiences I have so others might avoid the bad / poor service girls, (you may recall I reported on the scamster girl in the summer who has since been removed from the club.
Others who post in this forum, or send private messages (like Teddy Bears) have also posted (or messaged) really useful information again based upon experiences. It is a real shame we have one or two green monsters who barely ever venture beyond their front door, or rather believe that spending cash on girls in (allegedly dirty or grubby) clubs is a waste of money.
I can totally appreciate reports from the likes of Hahn. Who hated E92, thought it dirty but enjoyed his time at Scandalos. Whilst his take might be different from mine, that's fine. He posted a really useful report (in the wrong forum) on his findings. Whilst we've got the "clubs are shit" brigade and other green-eyed rude reports (removed by Admin not me) demonstrating pure jealousy, there is a risk the forums will degenerate.
Anyway, I hope you find the above information helpful, and that you get to try the funny, vivacious Sophia who is a delight.
I think you'll also find that E92 is now very much Romanian before midnight and Latina after it. That was my experience.
Whilst I am not a fan of taking girls to rooms at 2 am you'll find at Scandalos that the club only really starts bouncing at 1. 30 am and later when a lot of the best girls come out to play. This is partly a reflection on the pricing model. When it used to be 160/ hour and 10 for sheets in Scandalos. Ok pre pandemic but only 2019, the club was busier earlier as girls wanted enough rooms to make their desired daily quota. Now, when most girls in Scandalos want 250/ hour they are happy to enjoy their evening out of the bar, come into it at 1 am, get two or three rooms until it closes and go to bed with plenty of cash having had a decent night.
Qaz,
English folk have a peculiar sense of humour, and the basis (of which) more often than not is centred around sarcasm.
I hope this helps.It might have explained but it won't have helped. Not much you ever post helps. You will have noticed that admin (correctly) deleted your post. Can you try to post something which does actually contribute something positive instead of your sarcasm. The ISG forum isn't social media where you can troll, get abusive, etc. It's meant to be for information sharing for mutual benefit. Examples being which places are good to go to, others not, why not, what pricing is in place, which girls are good, which are poor (and why). I love a joke, and much though it will surprise you I love a bit of sarcasm. Yours isn't sarcasm, it is vitriol and me thinks laced with a large slice of green-eyed monster.
As I've said before, if you don't like what you are reading. Don't read it!
I hope we can look forward to you posting about some actual experiences - that, rather than you unmerited “sarcasm” (or bile) is what would actually help.
TeddyBears
08-02-22, 23:55
We all have different perspective on clubs, independents, villas etc. But for me the forum is about sharing helpful information to those that don't have as much experience as myself. I don't always report on my travels, I was at the CDS a month ago unfortunately I got a cold from the air conditioner at the hotel, so I only managed two visits on the clubs the first day and the last this time around. On the first day I visited Estark92 around midnight if I understood correctly there was some big party in Marbella that weekend so for being in the middle of the summer it was underwhelming, but you can't really judge a club from one odd visit. On my last day I visited Scandalo after midnight, firstly had a chat with Ibrahim the Lennox Lewis look a like bouncer, I haven't been at the club for a while so t was fun to see the big man again and share a few laughs. I used to be a regular at Scandalo from 2009-2017 when I visited the CDS at least 15 times a year so we go way back. The club was really good with many really beautiful girls that night but as written you can't really judge the club on one visit and what I find really attractive doesn't need to be that attractive to others. Both clubs had plenty of customers on the nights I was visiting, as reported from others the prices on E92 has gone up to 200 h with an extra 10€ for linens, at Scandalo the girls quote 250 h and an outrageous extra 30€ for linens but as PFI has written many times before these prices can be slightly negotiated especially later at night.
I do enjoy different experiences everything from erotic massages with a special ending (sex) to independents and of course the clubs that I enjoy the most since I can have a proper Q&A before deciding if I want to have sex with her or not, and the feeling of a girl / woman that rubs her ass against the crotch trying to lure you to her room is simply priceless for me.
I haven't shared this before but on the afternoon on my last day I visited a villa located in the Carvajal area the girls located at this place all advertised a lot at www.slumi.com with the same number and verified photos, when I got there I found four independent girls that all were the girls on the site only the 'little' detail that those pictures was heavily photoshoped that made a couple of them look ten years younger. In their ad they all advertised 'frances natural' but at the site no one would do it, so I actually left again, a bit disappointed!
It is these kind of experiences at villas or independents that makes me do them far less than I do clubbing, and for the reason above. When you go for independents you need to do your homework, for example reading local forums as www.lumismalaga.com or do a videocall with your choice of girl on the different online sites. If you actually find a hidden gem you do benefit from it since their rates so much lower compared to the better clubs, normally it's 100-120 h. But it takes plenty of time and energy and as much as I do understand that we all have different perspectives on what is fun and not, for me I much rather go to a good club and see the girl / girls of my choice and pay a bit more.
My advise to all of you is do what you enjoy, there is no right or wrong in this hobby of ours.
We all have different perspective on clubs, independents, villas etc. But for me the forum is about sharing helpful information to those that don't have as much experience as myself. I don't always report on my travels, I was at the CDS a month ago unfortunately I got a cold from the air conditioner at the hotel, so I only managed two visits on the clubs the first day and the last this time around. On the first day I visited Estark92 around midnight if I understood correctly there was some big party in Marbella that weekend so for being in the middle of the summer it was underwhelming, but you can't really judge a club from one odd visit. On my last day I visited Scandalo after midnight, firstly had a chat with Ibrahim the Lennox Lewis look a like bouncer, I haven't been at the club for a while so t was fun to see the big man again and share a few laughs. I used to be a regular at Scandalo from 2009-2017 when I visited the CDS at least 15 times a year so we go way back. The club was really good with many really beautiful girls that night but as written you can't really judge the club on one visit and what I find really attractive doesn't need to be that attractive to others. Both clubs had plenty of customers on the nights I was visiting, as reported from others the prices on E92 has gone up to 200 h with an extra 10 for linens, at Scandalo the girls quote 250 h and an outrageous extra 30 for linens but as PFI has written many times before these prices can be slightly negotiated especially later at night.
I do enjoy different experiences everything from erotic massages with a special ending (sex) to independents and of course the clubs that I enjoy the most since I can have a proper Q&A before deciding if I want to have sex with her or not, and the feeling of a girl / woman that rubs her ass against the crotch trying to lure you to her room is simply priceless for me.
I haven't shared this before but on the afternoon on my last day I visited a villa located in the Carvajal area the girls located at this place all advertised a lot at www.slumi.com with the same number and verified photos, when I got there I found four independent girls that all were the girls on the site only the 'little' detail that those pictures was heavily photoshoped that made a couple of them look ten years younger. In their ad they all advertised 'frances natural' but at the site no one would do it, so I actually left again, a bit disappointed!
It is these kind of experiences at villas or independents that makes me do them far less than I do clubbing, and for the reason above. When you go for independents you need to do your homework, for example reading local forums as www.lumismalaga.com or do a videocall with your choice of girl on the different online sites. If you actually find a hidden gem you do benefit from it since their rates so much lower compared to the better clubs, normally it's 100-120 h. But it takes plenty of time and energy and as much as I do understand that we all have different perspectives on what is fun and not, for me I much rather go to a good club and see the girl / girls of my choice and pay a bit more.
My advise to all of you is do what you enjoy, there is no right or wrong in this hobby of ours.As ever, a really good post, with a lot of wise and sensible words.
Back on the coast for a little rampage with the chicas.
Looking to go 92 tonight! My favourite place. Will report back.
Absolutely gutted Ina is not there, one of my favourite of all time I will miss her a lot.
I'm hearing a load of beautiful new faces, I always have a bit of reservations going with new ones because I don't know what the service will be saying, prefer tried and tested ones but sounds like most of them aren't there.
Really want to link up with Ana again, I hear she's at Scandalo I haven't been with her since like 2019. Does anyone know if she's usually free, its a bit of a mission going there don't want to go and be disappointed.
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Back on the coast for a little rampage with the chicas.
Looking to go 92 tonight! My favourite place. Will report back.
Absolutely gutted Ina is not there, one of my favourite of all time I will miss her a lot.
I'm hearing a load of beautiful new faces, I always have a bit of reservations going with new ones because I don't know what the service will be saying, prefer tried and tested ones but sounds like most of them aren't there.
Really want to link up with Ana again, I hear she's at Scandalo I haven't been with her since like 2019. Does anyone know if she's usually free, its a bit of a mission going there don't want to go and be disappointed.I have been to Scandalos three times in the past month and she has not been there any of those nights. I had one great night with her in 2021. She will never return to E92 - (a) she doesn't want to be there (b) they fell out and don't want her back and (c) she doesn't like the pricing there (even though you'll find many now want 200/ hour not 150.
Good luck tonight. You'll likely find it won't get really busy until after midnight. Very disappointing to those of us who like to be in bed asleep by 2 am max so prepare for a late night if you want the pick of the bunch. Veronica (from the Ina group) is looking her best. New hairstyle, the best natural boobs you'll come across and great service. You will get a surprise how much weight little Alicia (blonde curly Ro) has lost. Very slim now. Olimpia is back. Face is not more than 6 but the body and service are 9's.
Both Monicas are there (slim Ro brunette / feisty) and more gypsy-like other Ro brunette. Fabulous boobs with brace on teeth. More GFE. Latina Sophia (fabulous body and really fun girl to be with) brunette very slim, is a great option. Blonde Beatrice from the Ina group is still there, as is the ageing but fabulous gym body other Beatrice. Brunette / short bob hair.
Hope you had fun and eagerly await your report.
Come on PFI?
If you do actually own a place on the CDS? Explain?
It would actually add validity to your reporting. Of which you are so eager to maintain?I'm not sure why exactly this matters to you, or how it is relevant at all to the posts, but I can assure you I have owned a property on the CDS since 2003.
For obvious reasons I'm not going to reveal my actual address but my piso is located closer to Glass Palace than it is to Navy Bar, but it is still over 60 kilometres to E92 and over 80 kms to Scandalos. This is why I stay in hotels.Because I'm at the opposite end of the coast. I'm hardly likely to want to drive the 80kms from Scandalos in the early hours of the morning and after a wine or two.
Hence staying at MN next door. Ditto with E92 - just too far to be willing to drive after the night's activities and I like a drink when I’m out (but am too old to be interested in getting drunk not least as of course it kills performance).
I am not within walking distance of any of my preferred venues and the cost of taxis to and from the above clubs would be far more than the cost of cheap hotels. For sure I could cab it to GP but it is not a good option compared to those in Carajval and Guadalhorce. I have gotten a cab to and from Miladys before now but don't go there much now given the crazy 350/ hour tab. It was bad enough at 300 before. And I am still a fair distance from the Golden Mile.
I have my NIE (by virtue of my acquisition of a property), have not gone on El Padron as I am not a resident and don't want to apply for residencia which would involve me paying taxes in Spain when I don't live here permanently (and indeed would not want to do so).
So I hope that's enough for you! I am somewhat astonished that the validity of my reporting is even in question. The reasons being what I have written before. It would be literally IMPOSSIBLE for me to have recalled so many details of sessions with so many girls (reporting on some who were terrible, some who were great etc, with names, times etc) when other members of these forums have then gone on to use those experiences to try the same girl in the same venues and have reported equally positively and thanked me for the recommendations. What, do I just go to the club speak to girls and guess if they are good or not? Moreover I have shared private messages with several members of this forum, shared WhatsApp's about girls personal phone numbers (which they have used to arrange meetings). How did I get those girls' numbers? These are not independents who post their numbers on bait and switch escort sites. They are all girls working in the clubs. You think they'the give any punter their number in the bar without having had a session (or more)? I recently posted the actual names of the managers of E92 and Scandalos, the names of many of the staff at both venues. Previously I have posted about what certain girls will and won't do (eg Dina being an anal expert at Cleofas). How would I know?? Does she walk around the club with a sign on her back?!
Finally, I can tell you that I've even met up with several ISG members in E92 and other venues in other countries where we have made selections of ladies on the same night. We share whatsapp messages. I wouldn't say they have become "close" friends, but we share information on trips / girls etc. I’m hardly likely to arrange to meet fellow ISG members if I don’t go to these places!
In addition to the property in Spain I have recently exchanged private messages with another occasional member of this forum about acquisition of property in another part of the world and shared details of the lawyers used. Or did I invent that too? I have worked incredibly hard in my life (and am still doing so in several businesses) and am therefore entitled to use some of that hard earned cash to enjoy my leisure time. If that involves me (a) playing in casinos (which you appear to have a real dislike of) (b) paying more for services (the secret is in my nick on here. Payforit) or (c) getting taxis from one venue to another if I don't like the available options. Then that's all up to me isn't it?
It is not that I am "so eager to maintain" the validity of my reporting. It is simple: nobody likes having their integrity called into question. I have made comments about "green eyed monsters" in response. I am left with little other conclusion given recent comments.
Now, having challenged me to verify my information, and having clearly done so above, I'll return the challenge Jummy1 - get out there and have a few sessions with some ladies and give us some genuine reports which benefit those who frequent these pages. That's what this forum is really all about, not carping about what others do. Or challenging whether they do these things at all.
It is not that I am "so eager to maintain" the validity of my reporting. It is simple: nobody likes having their integrity called into question. I have made comments about "green eyed monsters" in response. I am left with little other conclusion given recent comments.
Now, having challenged me to verify my information, and having clearly done so above, I'll return the challenge Jummy1 - get out there and have a few sessions with some ladies and give us some genuine reports which benefit those who frequent these pages. That's what this forum is really all about, not carping about what others do. Or challenging whether they do these things at all.PayForIt, you needed not have wasted your time writing that. It's obvious to anyone with half a brain who the real deal is. Just ignore the trolls.
PayForIt, you needed not have wasted your time writing that. It's obvious to anyone with half a brain who the real deal is. Just ignore the trolls.Much appreciated and I did contemplate just ignoring it but decided to kill off any doubts. Not sure these guys are "trolls" but shame we don't get to see useful contributions from them.
Came here after after a couple months.
First thing I noticed is they have like four security guards including a proper one with a baton, not sure if this is because of potential new pending legislation and not wanting anything to go wrong I don't know. One of the girls said she was 90% sure they're going to close 92 down end of September. 92 was the first place I ever paid for sex when I was 17 and it will be the last place I do, once this place goes I'm retiring from the game.
So first night I went with one girl I've been with a few times, Spanish, 100 e. So annoying I came after like 5 minutes I was paranoid I wouldn't cum because I had a few drinks so as soon as I got my focus I went for it. But we laughed it off.
Tonight I went with one cute faced Brazilian, unfortunately I couldn't cum!! I decided to have a massive wank like 2 hours before 92 like an idiot so last night wouldn't of happened again, I was banging her for 20 minutes but kept going semi soft so I was like f this told her to give me a massage.
On the way down though I saw an absolute worldie 9/10 solid. Had blonde hair all over her chest and arms which I find so sexy, it was this Brazilians friend who I went with I hope this doesn't cockblock me with her, there's some weird politics in that place with girls, I remember Beatrice a while back not wanting to go with me because she didn't want to step on Ina's toes. (miss my sexy Ivanka, if only she told me she was going so I could cum one last time).
Anyway the quality is banging in there, look forward to going after the weekend, I hate Fri. And sat always busy but tonight was dead for punters, tones of girls, shame they don't do 80 e any more LOL I swear some don't even get any business.
Also who said Alicia had lost weight? I don't think so LOL she was looking bigger than when I last saw her. She's still a babe though.
One of the girls said she was 90% sure they're going to close 92 down end of September. 92 was the first place I ever paid for sex when I was 17 and it will be the last place I do, once this place goes I'm retiring from the game.Her 90% is well off. If, and that is a massive if, the new law comes in, it will take a LOT longer than this. The chance of the club closing in September 2022 is less than 5% IMHO.
On the way down though I saw an absolute worldie 9/10 solid. Delighted to read that another punter who actually goes to this club and reports (for which thanks) considers some options at E92 to be absolute worldie 9/10's. Sadly there are some who read these forums who don't believe there are 7's let alone 9's.
Also who said Alicia had lost weight? I don't think so LOL she was looking bigger than when I last saw her. She's still a babe though.It was me who said this and it is correct. Don't know what she was wearing (assuming we are talking about the same curly haired Ro blonde (short)). For reasons I won't go into here, she has had a really difficult last 12 months and it has caused her to lose nearly 14 kilos. If anything her face is looking a little thin and gaunt as a result.
Glad you enjoyed your trip to E92. If you are seriously hanging up your boots when it closes you may find you've got lots of punting left yet!
Wednesday night, got there at round 11 pm, it is very quiet, about 25 girls in total scattered around, about 15 in the disco part and 10 in the bar, I saw 4 punters in disco area and 3 in bar so in total 7 guys. Most of them have big fat asses (so not my type) spent about 5 minutes going back and forth to the bar and disco area. Found about 5 attractive ones but 4 of them are in disco area sitting in the dark so can't see their faces without making an approach, so got myself a drink and head to the bar to to have a talk with the one in the bar area, a brunette, long hair down to waist sat at a broken jackpot machine (WTF, and she keeps pressing the buttons for no obvious reasons) not sure whether she was monica the one PFI says or not, I approached her thinking she was. I sit next to her and realize that she is not even responding to another girl talking to her, I tell her Hello, how are you? She replies Hi, fine. I ask for her name, she says baby I'm not working, maybe I work later, maybe I don't know (in spanish) I'm like wtf, so got up and went back to the disco, in the corridor I was approached by another wired character who made strange noises to get my attention (dunno what was going on, maybe just say Hi! In the disco area there were 4 nice ones, but didn't want to approach them without seeing their faces from close up (there were quite a few with nice bodies, but faces bad) as I'm drinking my beer, one of the attractive ones waves at me, so I go to her, very attractive so great. After talking to her I relaized that she was inas friend and I had been with her before and she was great. I ask her about services and she says as I was with her before she would provide all services like the other time. Normal rate now is 100 even tho as I knew her from before she agreed to 80 as before, her name is nicolleta, amazing service.
I must say now that she is now my all time favorite in terms of service and attitude (clubs and outside clubs) and one the best in terms of face / body. Said she would be here for a week and comes back again in second half of Sept. For another week. So not there all the time. She comes every 2,3 months for a week or so. When I'm about to leave the club at around 12,30 it is a bit busier but there were around 70 working.
Saturday night was a lot busier.
Wednesday night, got there at round 11 pm, it is very quiet, about 25 girls in total scattered around, about 15 in the disco part and 10 in the bar, I saw 4 punters in disco area and 3 in bar so in total 7 guys. Most of them have big fat asses (so not my type) spent about 5 minutes going back and forth to the bar and disco area. Found about 5 attractive ones but 4 of them are in disco area sitting in the dark so can't see their faces without making an approach, so got myself a drink and head to the bar to to have a talk with the one in the bar area, a brunette, long hair down to waist sat at a broken jackpot machine (WTF, and she keeps pressing the buttons for no obvious reasons) not sure whether she was monica the one PFI says or not, I approached her thinking she was. I sit next to her and realize that she is not even responding to another girl talking to her, I tell her Hello, how are you? She replies Hi, fine. I ask for her name, she says baby I'm not working, maybe I work later, maybe I don't know (in spanish) I'm like wtf, so got up and went back to the disco, in the corridor I was approached by another wired character who made strange noises to get my attention (dunno what was going on, maybe just say Hi! In the disco area there were 4 nice ones, but didn't want to approach them without seeing their faces from close up (there were quite a few with nice bodies, but faces bad) as I'm drinking my beer, one of the attractive ones waves at me, so I go to her, very attractive so great. After talking to her I relaized that she was inas friend and I had been with her before and she was great. I ask her about services and she says as I was with her before she would provide all services like the other time. Normal rate now is 100 even tho as I knew her from before she agreed to 80 as before, her name is nicolleta, amazing service.
I must say now that she is now my all time favorite in terms of service and attitude (clubs and outside clubs) and one the best in terms of face / body. Said she would be here for a week and comes back again in second half of Sept. For another week. So not there all the time. She comes every 2,3 months for a week or so. When I'm about to leave the club at around 12,30 it is a bit busier but there were around 70 working.
Saturday night was a lot busier.Nice report. If it is the same Nicoletta I have been with I understand why you were happy. Shame you didn't get to see Sophia. Maybe there Saturday. As previously reported, for some reason, the club is starting to follow the Scandalos model where at 11 pm it can be very quiet but by 2 am it is rocking. Very annoying if, like me, you like to have had your fun and be tucked up in bed by 2 am if possible. Glad you had a great time after initial disappointment. Great to see others posting actual experiences. Always helpful for others seeking guidance on who is good / not / what the venues are like currently.
Nice report. If it is the same Nicoletta I have been with I understand why you were happy. Shame you didn't get to see Sophia. Maybe there Saturday. As previously reported, for some reason, the club is starting to follow the Scandalos model where at 11 pm it can be very quiet but by 2 am it is rocking. Very annoying if, like me, you like to have had your fun and be tucked up in bed by 2 am if possible. Glad you had a great time after initial disappointment. Great to see others posting actual experiences. Always helpful for others seeking guidance on who is good / not / what the venues are like currently.I didn't see sophia. I haven't seen your report on nicoletta, when was it? Lets see if its the same one.
I don't have problem with staying out till morning but the thing is I prefer to be among the first ones to go there, if you go there at 3 am, you will find some annoying drunks and tired faces.
I didn't see sophia. I haven't seen your report on nicoletta, when was it? Lets see if its the same one.
I don't have problem with staying out till morning but the thing is I prefer to be among the first ones to go there, if you go there at 3 am, you will find some annoying drunks and tired faces.The nicoletta I have been with several times has short blonde hair and glasses. Whilst friendly with Ina and Veronica she is best friends with Alicia (blonde Romanian). Not been in the club for about a year but a lovely sweet girl.
I don't go at 3 am (I am usually in bed by then) but I also am not interested in arriving as one of the first ones there when it is empty. My ideal would be arriving to a full club at 10 pm after good food but that is becoming difficult as most of the best girls are not in the bar or club now until gone midnight which is really quite annoying. Shame you didn't see Sophia. I'm not normally the biggest fan of SA girls as I prefer the slim Romanians, but this girl is stand-out.
The nicoletta I have been with several times has short blonde hair and glasses. Whilst friendly with Ina and Veronica she is best friends with Alicia (blonde Romanian). Not been in the club for about a year but a lovely sweet girl.
I don't go at 3 am (I am usually in bed by then) but I also am not interested in arriving as one of the first ones there when it is empty. My ideal would be arriving to a full club at 10 pm after good food but that is becoming difficult as most of the best girls are not in the bar or club now until gone midnight which is really quite annoying. Shame you didn't see Sophia. I'm not normally the biggest fan of SA girls as I prefer the slim Romanians, but this girl is stand-out.No, not the same nicoletta. This one is EE, brunette, quite tall (maybe 1. 75 cm) slim, no glasses.
No, not the same nicoletta. This one is EE, brunette, quite tall (maybe 1. 75 cm) slim, no glasses.In which case you are definitely correct that she is different. I am a bit surprised I have never seen her because when I am in the club I mainly hang out with the Ina / Beatrice / Veronica / Julia group in that corner of the club (far end of the bar) yet I've not met her. Since posting my initial response (which queried if I would know her if I saw a picture) I pinged a whatsapp to a couple of the girls for a picture to see if I know her and whilst I don't have a picture one of the girls responded to say that I have not met her, and that she is only in the club for a very short time.
Anyway, given your glowing recommendation of her I shall be sure to have a room with her if she is ever in the club when I am.
In which case you are definitely correct that she is different. I am a bit surprised I have never seen her because when I am in the club I mainly hang out with the Ina / Beatrice / Veronica / Julia group in that corner of the club (far end of the bar) yet I've not met her. Since posting my initial response (which queried if I would know her if I saw a picture) I pinged a whatsapp to a couple of the girls for a picture to see if I know her and whilst I don't have a picture one of the girls responded to say that I have not met her, and that she is only in the club for a very short time.
Anyway, given your glowing recommendation of her I shall be sure to have a room with her if she is ever in the club when I am.She said she would be back in the second half of Sept. Next time I must get her number.
She said she would be back in the second half of Sept. Next time I must get her number.I am not back in Europe now until mid October so I might miss her if she only stays short periods. Shame -sounds great and not only recommended by you but by three of the girls I regularly take- "take her you will like her". - nothing in it for them so she must be very good. If you get her cell in Sept and pics (face) ping me PM please.
I am not back in Europe now until mid October so I might miss her if she only stays short periods. Shame -sounds great and not only recommended by you but by three of the girls I regularly take- "take her you will like her". - nothing in it for them so she must be very good. If you get her cell in Sept and pics (face) ping me PM please.Ok, if I find her, I will get her number. But if I were you I would try to come in Sept. Just to see her.
Decided to visit milady palace as I was close by. Entered at round 23:00 mid week, was surprised to see it quite busy. About 15-20 guys and about the same number of girls. Found at least 10 quite attractive, quality actually was really good, mostly EE and some latinas, was quoted 400 euros an hour and no 30 minutes possible. But after talking for about 10 min, she said 350 an hour.
Quality really good but pricing very high. All the staff very polite and good vibe.
MagicSheep74
08-15-22, 14:59
Decided to visit milady palace as I was close by. Entered at round 23:00 mid week, was surprised to see it quite busy. About 15-20 guys and about the same number of girls. Found at least 10 quite attractive, quality actually was really good, mostly EE and some latinas, was quoted 400 euros an hour and no 30 minutes possible. But after talking for about 10 min, she said 350 an hour.
Quality really good but pricing very high. All the staff very polite and good vibe.Thanks for the feedback Qaz.
I really hope the 400 and no 30 minute option is not permanent. 400 an hour in a club in Spain is quite simply outrageous. The place, the rooms, the staff etc are all top quality, but I will not be paying 400 an hour full stop. I could get a full night for that, picking up a girl straight out a club. The club's location is very convenient for me, but we are have to draw the line somewhere.
I occasional took the 180/30 minute option for a stunner, but not often.
Thanks for the feedback Qaz. I really hope the 400 and no 30 minute option is not permanent. 400 an hour in a club in Spain is quite simply outrageous. The place, the rooms, the staff etc are all top quality, but I will not be paying 400 an hour full stop.You and me both! Simply outrageous! Not going to happen! No way, no how!
Andalus Expat
08-15-22, 20:12
Thanks for the feedback Qaz.
I really hope the 400 and no 30 minute option is not permanent. 400 an hour in a club in Spain is quite simply outrageous. The place, the rooms, the staff etc are all top quality, but I will not be paying 400 an hour full stop. I could get a full night for that, picking up a girl straight out a club. The club's location is very convenient for me, but we are have to draw the line somewhere.
I occasional took the 180/30 minute option for a stunner, but not often.I hadn't realized they'd even offered half hours in Milady's. When did that start? Always seems like an insult to a good woman, to me. What can you do in half an hour? Why not just spend half an hour with a box of tissues & Xhamster?
Milady's is the only club on the CDS I've enjoyed going to, albeit at previous pricing. 400? I dropped into Estark in the early hours of Thursday last. The popular language seemed to be Arabic. "The place, the rooms, the staff etc are all top quality, " It is indeed class. And they don't clip you with demands for sheets or room fees. I don't suppose they had an option, if they were going to preserve their differential. Otherwise, it'd turn into Scandalos & they'd lose their quality clientele. It's the other club prices are outrageous. Compared, Milady's is still good value for money.
Super Cum 500
08-15-22, 22:37
Came here after after a couple months.
First thing I noticed is they have like four security guards including a proper one with a baton, not sure if this is because of potential new pending legislation and not wanting anything to go wrong I don't know. One of the girls said she was 90% sure they're going to close 92 down end of September. 92 was the first place I ever paid for sex when I was 17 and it will be the last place I do, once this place goes I'm retiring from the game.
So first night I went with one girl I've been with a few times, Spanish, 100 e. So annoying I came after like 5 minutes I was paranoid I wouldn't cum because I had a few drinks so as soon as I got my focus I went for it. But we laughed it off.
Tonight I went with one cute faced Brazilian, unfortunately I couldn't cum!! I decided to have a massive wank like 2 hours before 92 like an idiot so last night wouldn't of happened again, I was banging her for 20 minutes but kept going semi soft so I was like f this told her to give me a massage.
On the way down though I saw an absolute worldie 9/10 solid. Had blonde hair all over her chest and arms which I find so sexy, it was this Brazilians friend who I went with I hope this doesn't cockblock me with her, there's some weird politics in that place with girls, I remember Beatrice a while back not wanting to go with me because she didn't want to step on Ina's toes. (miss my sexy Ivanka, if only she told me she was going so I could cum one last time).
Anyway the quality is banging in there, look forward to going after the weekend, I hate Fri. And sat always busy but tonight was dead for punters, tones of girls, shame they don't do 80 e any more LOL I swear some don't even get any business.
Also who said Alicia had lost weight? I don't think so LOL she was looking bigger than when I last saw her. She's still a babe though.What day / time is best then in terms of girls to punters ratio? Also I really need find cheap accommodation nearby as staying in Malaga as before makes a late trip impossible.
MagicSheep74
08-15-22, 23:10
I hadn't realized they'd even offered half hours in Milady's. When did that start? Always seems like an insult to a good woman, to me. What can you do in half an hour? Why not just spend half an hour with a box of tissues & Xhamster?
Milady's is the only club on the CDS I've enjoyed going to, albeit at previous pricing. 400? I dropped into Estark in the early hours of Thursday last. The popular language seemed to be Arabic. "The place, the rooms, the staff etc are all top quality, " It is indeed class. And they don't clip you with demands for sheets or room fees. I don't suppose they had an option, if they were going to preserve their differential. Otherwise, it'd turn into Scandalos & they'd lose their quality clientele. It's the other club prices are outrageous. Compared, Milady's is still good value for money.I remember when I first went to MP in 2012 it was 300 an hour, 160 for 30 minutes and it stayed this way for 2020. Then it jumped to 350 an hour and 200 for half. From my memory never any entry fee or payments for the sheets. I personally actually really like the place, and have had some great nights there.
Other interesting points. They are not renting rooms to the girls, When the girl gets an hour say - 300 paid at desk. The girl gets 200. The girls get half an hour 200 , the girl gets 130.
Every girl in place has to go to the local Marbella hospital each month and get screened for STD's on her cost and present the cert to the club.
This is one story that seems to hold true, 3 Colombian gentleman arrived - 2 very high end narcos and a doctor. The Narcos take 3 girls to a room for 3 days. The club can't actually close until the last customers leaves. They open a silver box containing a very large quality of coke and multiple viagra. Partied with the girls from 3 days, while the doctor stood at the side of the room with medical provisions incase someone had an overdose. LOL.
The bill - 21 k a day on women x 3 and 9 k on champagne. 70 K bill. A good night for the ladies that time, I know one the girls involved, how true I don't know and don't care. Funny though.
Milady's is the only club on the CDS I've enjoyed going to, albeit at previous pricing. 400? I dropped into Estark in the early hours of Thursday last. The popular language seemed to be Arabic. "The place, the rooms, the staff etc are all top quality, " It is indeed class. And they don't clip you with demands for sheets or room fees. I don't suppose they had an option, if they were going to preserve their differential. Otherwise, it'd turn into Scandalos & they'd lose their quality clientele. It's the other club prices are outrageous. Compared, Milady's is still good value for money.Paying 400 euros for an hour session for the typical sex girls want to deliver in Spain (no CIM, CBJ, covered sex, no anal, no COF, etc.) absolutely does not represent value for that amount of money. And your biases are shining through if you think it does. Hell, that's even too much to pay in Germany where performance from the girls is overall better, delivering better value for the money. I mean this is just ridiculous pricing for Spain. Poor value! From bad to worse!
I hadn't realized they'd even offered half hours in Milady's. When did that start? Always seems like an insult to a good woman, to me. What can you do in half an hour? Why not just spend half an hour with a box of tissues & Xhamster?
Milady's is the only club on the CDS I've enjoyed going to, albeit at previous pricing. 400? I dropped into Estark in the early hours of Thursday last. The popular language seemed to be Arabic. "The place, the rooms, the staff etc are all top quality, " It is indeed class. And they don't clip you with demands for sheets or room fees. I don't suppose they had an option, if they were going to preserve their differential. Otherwise, it'd turn into Scandalos & they'd lose their quality clientele. It's the other club prices are outrageous. Compared, Milady's is still good value for money.Yes, exactly. I think no guy was actually interested in doing 30 minutes there (I was tho) so I think none of the girls was going to accept it (but maybe because its summer and they have clients) . She said 350 e an hour as she realized that I was not a tourist but still many guys buying them drinks and stuff so don't think guys going there actually mind paying 100 e more or less.
I also dropped into estark the other day and as you said many noisy guys from other countries. But it was good for the girls, easy targets. But not so much for me, didn't like the vibe and left even tho there were some nice ones around.
Andalus Expat
08-16-22, 12:04
Yes, exactly. I think no guy was actually interested in doing 30 minutes there (I was tho) so I think none of the girls was going to accept it (but maybe because its summer and they have clients) . She said 350 e an hour as she realized that I was not a tourist but still many guys buying them drinks and stuff so don't think guys going there actually mind paying 100 e more or less.
I also dropped into estark the other day and as you said many noisy guys from other countries. But it was good for the girls, easy targets. But not so much for me, didn't like the vibe and left even tho there were some nice ones around.I didn't get the impression it was good for the girls. They were largely ignoring the Sons of the Desert. The Romanian xica I chatted with briefly was scathing about them.
It does seem to be a general thing with the girls here. Marroquies get rated slightly above the African lookie-men pester you on the beach. For some reason Colombians are down there as well.
"Good for the girls, easy targets" It's basically why no experienced punter goes prospecting for new talent in July & August. Those two months bring the wet-behind-the-ears tourists & the chancer girls prey on them. It's too much trouble sorting the wheat from the chaff. Stick with the ones that you know.
I didn't get the impression it was good for the girls. They were largely ignoring the Sons of the Desert. The Romanian xica I chatted with briefly was scathing about them.
It does seem to be a general thing with the girls here. Marroquies get rated slightly above the African lookie-men pester you on the beach. For some reason Colombians are down there as well.
"Good for the girls, easy targets" It's basically why no experienced punter goes prospecting for new talent in July & August. Those two months bring the wet-behind-the-ears tourists & the chancer girls prey on them. It's too much trouble sorting the wheat from the chaff. Stick with the ones that you know.Of course, most of the girls don't like them, but most of these guys (not all) pay for 30 minutes or 60 minutes because they are here on holidays and don't have anything like this in their own countries. But definitely I go with the ones I know from before during the summer months.
Milday had a much better vibe and no sign of these guys, very high class. But of course that's why its much more expensive. Have you visited milady this summer?
Andalus Expat
08-17-22, 12:03
Of course, most of the girls don't like them, but most of these guys (not all) pay for 30 minutes or 60 minutes because they are here on holidays and don't have anything like this in their own countries. But definitely I go with the ones I know from before during the summer months.
Milday had a much better vibe and no sign of these guys, very high class. But of course that's why its much more expensive. Have you visited milady this summer?Not since Covidpanic reared its ugly head. No reason. I don't go to clubs to talk with girls. If I wanted sex I wouldn't go to a club. But it was always a useful place to take visiting mates. How I first got taken there. We haven't seen that many visitors, have we? Most of the people I know with that sort of spending power have been going to Portugal or other destinations.
But I think I'll make a point of dropping in there for a drink, next time it's convenient. See how it's functioning for future reference. It's the one place I hope survives the up-coming legislation. Be a shame to lose it.
In passing, the Circus Bar at Elviria (Calle Guatemala) seems to be dark. Does anyone know if it ever reopened? Despite its brief existence it was a good idea. Not so much a club as a bar with girls. Bar prices were reasonable & the girls didn't harass. All very relaxed & unpressured. I suppose its one failing was the 'take your life in your hands' process of getting back onto the carretera after departing, out of a small slip road near a bend. One needed a car with serious acceleration.
Scandalo Friday night at round 22:00 pm, quite busy, about 20 girls and same number of guys, quality very good, about 6,7 I would consider 7 or 8. Girls didn't approach, at midnight it was a lot busier (actually many local dudes, and many new girls came, most were asking 150 e /30 min but most of them were fine with 120 (a few great looking ones wanted 150 + a drink, no wonder why, there were enough guys there willing to take a few of them up to the room for a few hours + buying them drinks).
Estark, great vibe but on weekends too busy for me, 90-100 girls working at present.
Small villas and private clubs are paying 50 euros commissions to taxis for taking guys there. It seems that the business is good.
Scandalo Friday night at round 22:00 pm, quite busy, about 20 girls and same number of guys, quality very good, about 6,7 I would consider 7 or 8. Girls didn't approach, at midnight it was a lot busier (actually many local dudes, and many new girls came, most were asking 150 e /30 min but most of them were fine with 120 (a few great looking ones wanted 150 + a drink, no wonder why, there were enough guys there willing to take a few of them up to the room for a few hours + buying them drinks).
Estark, great vibe but on weekends too busy for me, 90-100 girls working at present.
Small villas and private clubs are paying 50 euros commissions to taxis for taking guys there. It seems that the business is good.And what are you getting for the price of 150/30 pray tell? In Germany that will generally get you 30 minutes of straight sex with BBBJ / CIM. What will I get for that in Malaga, Spain at Scandalo?
And what are you getting for the price of 150/30 pray tell? In Germany that will generally get you 30 minutes of straight sex with BBBJ / CIM. What will I get for that in Malaga, Spain at Scandalo?Very rare for real french kissing? When I get and BBBJ, DATY, for 50/30 in Germany.
MagicSheep74
08-25-22, 10:14
And what are you getting for the price of 150/30 pray tell? In Germany that will generally get you 30 minutes of straight sex with BBBJ / CIM. What will I get for that in Malaga, Spain at Scandalo?What you will get in Scandalo / Estark 92 is variety! Brazilians / Colombians / Domincans / Cubans / Venezuelans / Eastern Europeans and the occasional Spanish girl. The benefit of being on the Costa Del Sol, and if CIM is a deal breaker it can be negotiated downstairs. Finally you can find the occasional stunner 9/10.
What you'll get is Frankfurt is a miserable and boring city, clubs full of Romanians and an entry fee. The general consensus is that none are very good looking and the market has been saturated by gypsies that will let you Cum in you month for 150.
I went several times to Germany before it was crap, and I still think overall that Spain is better. Better country to holiday, better fun and more variety of chicas.
MagicSheep74
08-25-22, 16:23
What you will get in Scandalo / Estark 92 is variety! Brazilians / Colombians / Domincans / Cubans / Venezuelans / Eastern Europeans and the occasional Spanish girl. The benefit of being on the Costa Del Sol, and if CIM is a deal breaker it can be negotiated downstairs. Finally you can find the occasional stunner 9/10.
What you'll get is Frankfurt is a miserable and boring city, clubs full of Romanians and an entry fee. The general consensus is that none are very good looking and the market has been saturated by gypsies that will let you Cum in their mouth for 150.
I went several times to Germany before it was crap, and I still think overall that Spain is better. Better country to holiday, better fun and more variety of chicas.It just dawned on me that I never answered the question. So the times I have CIM or performed Anal in the clubs in Spain, its just happened and there was never been an additional charge. I will say though, that these additional services are not necessary to me. I am looking for pure Optics, the best looking looking girl I can find. I would prefer to have sex with a really beautiful girl that I will remember for years after, rather than searching for an average looking Romanian that takes it up the ass.
Maybe Qaz has a different experience.
What you will get in Scandalo / Estark 92 is variety! Brazilians / Colombians / Domincans / Cubans / Venezuelans / Eastern Europeans and the occasional Spanish girl. The benefit of being on the Costa Del Sol, and if CIM is a deal breaker it can be negotiated downstairs. Finally you can find the occasional stunner 9/10.
What you'll get is Frankfurt is a miserable and boring city, clubs full of Romanians and an entry fee. The general consensus is that none are very good looking and the market has been saturated by gypsies that will let you Cum in you month for 150.
I went several times to Germany before it was crap, and I still think overall that Spain is better. Better country to holiday, better fun and more variety of chicas.I get all that (been all over Spain many times). But for me, it's not an either / or proposition. Meaning get great optics but mediocre service or vice versa. I want it all LOL! I want stellar optics and the particular services I desire. And all at a favorable price. Your answer (thanks for taking the time to answer my specific question after the mini lecture) kind of lets me know that things are still in the same place in Spain when I left it (if not even worse for value), and why I have removed Spain from my list. When I go on a mongering trip I'm going first and foremost to fuck (PSE preferred). If it's good weather and better food in nice environs that I want, then I'll take another kind of vacation other than a mongering one to somewhere else other than Germany. Hey, like Brazil where I can still fuck like a king! Talk about having it all! Hahaha!
What you will get in Scandalo / Estark 92 is variety! Brazilians / Colombians / Domincans / Cubans / Venezuelans / Eastern Europeans and the occasional Spanish girl. The benefit of being on the Costa Del Sol, and if CIM is a deal breaker it can be negotiated downstairs. Finally you can find the occasional stunner 9/10.
What you'll get is Frankfurt is a miserable and boring city, clubs full of Romanians and an entry fee. The general consensus is that none are very good looking and the market has been saturated by gypsies that will let you Cum in you month for 150.
I went several times to Germany before it was crap, and I still think overall that Spain is better. Better country to holiday, better fun and more variety of chicas.Exactly, I understand what cane says, spain is expensive for mongering (in recent years not just mongering but pretty much everything has become expensive) but that's what it is, if you want to get maximum out of your money then you should head to Colombia, Brazil and etc. But then you won't have the variety, weather, safety and other stuff that spain offers.
I like Germany but as magic says, most of the time weathers bad, the clubs are full of immigrants (usually not good ones) and quite boring cities which are worth visiting just for a day or two.
About CIM my personal experience is that SA are more willing to provide than beautiful EE. But again that depends on what you consider a must. Magic and PFI and I want the most beautiful ones, so obviously these are less likely to provide CIM and anal because they have enough clinets, don't need to do things that are not to their likings. The ugly ones need clients and are willing to give whatever the client wants just to get the cash. I believe this is the same everywhere.
By the way, the new law (the one everyone was talking about recently) has finally been passed, but the articles affecting night clubs, brothels and prostitutions in general were left out, so basically nothings changed.
If you want to get maximum out of your money then you should head to Colombia, Brazil and etc. But then you won't have the variety, weather, safety and other stuff that spain offers.In Brazil you have weather and "other stuff" that Spain provides as well. Food is even better if you ask me. And at the end of the day, I don't care about variety since for me the Brasiliera is head and shoulders above the rest. If I had to fuck nothing but Brazilian girls for rest of my life, that wouldn't upset me one iota (they come in many shades and ethnicities too). Besides, if variety is your high priority, then even Spain can't touch Dubai in this category. And as for safety? It's all overblown regarding Brazil. If it wasn't safe, then I wouldn't go there! But hey, people can believe what they want to believe (and will). I don't need more people going to my favorite mongering destination messing it up anyway LOL!
What you will get in Scandalo / Estark 92 is variety! Brazilians / Colombians / Domincans / Cubans / Venezuelans / Eastern Europeans and the occasional Spanish girl. The benefit of being on the Costa Del Sol, and if CIM is a deal breaker it can be negotiated downstairs. Finally you can find the occasional stunner 9/10.
What you'll get is Frankfurt is a miserable and boring city, clubs full of Romanians and an entry fee. The general consensus is that none are very good looking and the market has been saturated by gypsies that will let you Cum in you month for 150.
I went several times to Germany before it was crap, and I still think overall that Spain is better. Better country to holiday, better fun and more variety of chicas.Unusual for me to disagree with your (excellent) posts, but for once I do. I visit Germany usually four or five times per year as well as being in Spain for maybe 5 months every year (though that is decreasing and am spending more time in Dubai and Far East as time moves on).
Some of the comments are a little too general and represent the past not the present. For example, Scandalos, for the past 2 years, has less variety. It is now 99% South American girls mainly from Columbia. There are only 3 EE girls now registered at the club and two of them (Melthi gym body, and Ana. Marilyn Monroe lookalike) barely ever work in there now. Anna (blonde with glasses) still does. By contrast, in E92 you will find the said variety you mention. I also agree you find the odd stunner at Scandalos (more frequently than at E92 but not always the case).
E92 is still predominantly EE and there are many gypsy girls working there. Doesn't bother me in the slightest. If they are pretty and fun I really don't care. Many of them are both. There is no huge difference in quality of girls between E92 (my preferred club on CDS) and Frankfurt FKKs. It is cyclical. On occasions, FKK Sharks, Oase, World, Mainhattan and Palace have had real stunners. None of them ever a match for the incredible blonde Melissa at Scandalos in 2008-2017 but nevertheless some really breathtakingly attractive women who genuinely have a queue waiting even if that means a 2 hour wait. You don't see that much in Spain!
I agree that CIM is negotiable downstairs in Spain, but CIM, BBBJ and DFK (if either are your thing) are far more readily provided in Germany than in Spain. For sure, if you get to know a girl in the CDS clubs, and have had several sessions, all become very much available. And at no extra charge. Most girls in Spain will do BBBJ provided the hygiene level is good but some will flat out refuse. In Germany all of these extras (and others) are available from nearly all of the girls. Indeed, until the BBBJ silly law change in Germany in July 2017, DFK and BBBJ were considered part of "standard" service for 50 euros /30 minutes. Only when that law came in did girls start upselling BBBJ in Frankfurt and Berlin. In FKK Artemis it is now standard 20 extra for BBBJ for every girl and has been since 2018. It has always been an extra in Bavarian clubs and often also the case in Hamburg (FKK Atmos / Harmony / Babylon). So for guys wanting a guarantee of these services Germany is better albeit for extra money.
I think a generalisation that the market in Germany is saturated with gypsies is not correct. There are plenty, but not really more so than in E92. Moreover, to say the general consensus is that there are not many pretty girls is really very wide of the mark. I was there 2 months ago. The options were excellent even outside of FKKs. I found choosing in the Laierkausten laufhaus in Munich (far better than FKK Sunshine) very difficult indeed because the options were really quite exceptional with several 9's. All of them would have outshone anyone I have seen in Scandalos in the past 2 years. Every one of them available for 200/ hour (which is less than in Scandalos). Ditto one excellent Saturday in FKK Oase. Soaked up the sun surrounded by many beauties for an entire afternoon, some nice BBQ, games, swimming with several naked ladies and some really good options. At Palace there is the unmistakable Jennifer who provides truly fabulous service. Some other gems and there is a new crop of thin, sexy brunettes at Mainhattan. In Aca Gold, not my favourite club and only visited once but plenty of decent options for e-euros /30 minutes. I didn't see many gypsies. The party atmosphere in Samya (Cologne) was fabulous. The only similar experience was in FKK Oceans (Dusseldorf) which has become a club much like Scandalos without the quality of line up.
For me, the overall FKK experience is far better than mongering on the CDS. A days mongering in a good FKK, good food, pool, sauna, steam, gym (Artemis), professional massage, to aid recovery in between multiple sessions, is a better total experience than in a Spanish club.
I also think a general brandishing of German cities (Qaz extended your critique of "boring" Frankfurt to others) is a little unfair. Berlin beats Malaga for interest every day of the week. Dresden is small but very interesting. Munich is my favourite city in Europe after Rome, and Hamburg is classy and interesting if you ignore the Reep. You are certainly correct that FRA is boring and indeed the climate is unquestionably better on CDS. Spain as a country, with its culture, food, climate etc is indeed more interesting.
Only my 2 cents but the notion that all of Germany is boring is inaccurate. On the CDS, Malaga is a nice city, Estepona a beautiful town, but Puerto Banus now resembles the RLD of Frankfurt, is a dump, dangerous, and I'm afraid the likes of Torremolinos, Fuengirola, Benalmadena (all mirror Blackpool in the sun) are far less attractive to visit than Cologne, Dusseldorf, Stuttgart, Berlin, Munich, Dresden or Hamburg. A train journey mid Germany along the Rhine between clubs is stunningly beautiful. More so than the A7/ N340 any day. Despite this, I do love Spain, like its food, language and climate, but as a mongering destination I am more with The Cane. Its had its best days. Prices have gone crazy and value for money is hard to find in the clubs. Cue A Expat and his allegedly stunning independents who provide the best sex for a can of coke, a bed and a bocadillo jamon why queso!🥴🤭 But in truth for those mongers who want to select from a line up without the awful villa parada, it's become quite expensive. Recent reports of 350 or even 400/ hour in Miladys. Crazy. 👎
There are still deals to be had both in E92 and Scandalos. German FKKs do have some variety. But not as much as in Spain so your overall point is not entirely unfair in that regard, though a generalisation that most girls in German clubs are not pretty is not my experience. And certainly not in the past year. I had one night recently when I was so disappointed in the line up at Scandalos that I jumped an expensive cab to E92 for the better options (and got slaughtered for spending the money to do that!).
So the options in Scandalos are not always that great. In fairness I did end up staying next door at Malaga Nostrum, so returned and had a good session when the line up improved. But it was then past 2 am! In Germany the daytime line ups can be good, and if not, it changes into the evening line up so a whole new batch to choose from after dinner!
Both have their pluses and minuses. When I mentioned cyclical I meant quality of line up. It fluctuates anywhere. In Germany some clubs (Sharks) have had exceptional years, then fade, then revive - or not. Ditto in Spain. There was a time in Scandalos when it was far more than the odd 9/10 and even some 10/10's. Those days, for me, appear to have gone for now. Maybe they will return. I honestly don't think there is an awful lot to choose between Spain and Germany but if I had to pick, my preference is Germany. All that said, I have to say that neither have the stunners that are in Dubai! Some of the Uzbeks and Russians are truly 10's. More expensive, but the quality (and the diversity) is far greater as it is currently in vogue / the place to be. Too hot, strict rules, humid, not a lot to see (Deira has its qualities) but for mongering. Excellent. As ever, to each their own!
Despite this, I do love Spain, like its food, language and climate, but as a mongering destination I am more with The Cane. Its had its best days. Prices have gone crazy and value for money is hard to find in the clubs. Cue A Expat and his allegedly stunning independents who provide the best sex for a can of coke, a bed and a bocadillo jamon why queso!🥴🤭 But in truth for those mongers who want to select from a line up without the awful villa parada, it's become quite expensive. Recent reports of 350 or even 400/ hour in Miladys. Crazy. 👎 As ever, to each their own!Bravo! Bravo! A standing ovation for this thorough and most dispositive essay on the matter. Could not have said it better myself. And definitely was not going to invest the time to do so LOL! All I can add is that I hope that someway and somehow that mongering in Spain will return to a value equilibrium that works for me. I used to have it right up there with Germany and couldn't wait to go to places in Madrid like Estark, Factory Air, Flowers Park, and Vive. Scandalo and E92 on the CDS were good too. I also had memorable times in Barcelona and even in La Jonquera (The Cane in Spain)! But alas no longer! Not for me. And as you noted in another post, I was about a couple of years ahead of you in arriving at this position on mongering in Spain. At least it seems that the threat from that proposed infernal law has been blunted. For now.
MagicSheep74
08-26-22, 09:54
Unusual for me to disagree with your (excellent) posts, but for once I do. I visit Germany usually four or five times per year as well as being in Spain for maybe 5 months every year (though that is decreasing and am spending more time in Dubai and Far East as time moves on).
Some of the comments are a little too general and represent the past not the present. For example, Scandalos, for the past 2 years, has less variety. It is now 99% South American girls mainly from Columbia. There are only 3 EE girls now registered at the club and two of them (Melthi gym body, and Ana. Marilyn Monroe lookalike) barely ever work in there now. Anna (blonde with glasses) still does. By contrast, in E92 you will find the said variety you mention. I also agree you find the odd stunner at Scandalos (more frequently than at E92 but not always the case).
E92 is still predominantly EE and there are many gypsy girls working there. Doesn't bother me in the slightest. If they are pretty and fun I really don't care. Many of them are both. There is no huge difference in quality of girls between E92 (my preferred club on CDS) and Frankfurt FKKs. It is cyclical. On occasions, FKK Sharks, Oase, World, Mainhattan and Palace have had real stunners. None of them ever a match for the incredible blonde Melissa at Scandalos in 2008-2017 but nevertheless some really breathtakingly attractive women who genuinely have a queue waiting even if that means a 2 hour wait. You don't see that much in Spain
I agree that CIM is negotiable downstairs in Spain, but CIM, BBBJ and DFK (if either are your thing) are far more readily provided in Germany than in Spain. For sure, if you get to know a girl in the CDS clubs, and have had several sessions, all become very much available. And at no extra charge. Most girls in Spain will do BBBJ provided the hygiene level is good but some will flat out refuse. In Germany all of these extras (and others) are available from nearly all of the girls. Indeed, until the BBBJ silly law change in Germany in July 2017, DFK and BBBJ were considered part of "standard" service for 50 euros /30 minutes. Only when that law came in did girls start upselling BBBJ in Frankfurt and Berlin. In FKK Artemis it is now standard 20 extra for BBBJ for every girl and has been since 2018. It has always been an extra in Bavarian clubs and often also the case in Hamburg (FKK Atmos / Harmony / Babylon). So for guys wanting a guarantee of these services Germany is better albeit for extra money.
I think a generalisation that the market in Germany is saturated with gypsies is not correct. There are plenty, but not really more so than in E92. Moreover, to say the general consensus is that there are not many pretty girls is really very wide of the mark. I was there 2 months ago. The options were excellent even outside of FKKs. I found choosing in the Laierkausten laufhaus in Munich (far better than FKK Sunshine) very difficult indeed because the options were really quite exceptional with several 9's. All of them would have outshone anyone I have seen in Scandalos in the past 2 years. Every one of them available for 200/ hour (which is less than in Scandalos). Ditto one excellent Saturday in FKK Oase. Soaked up the sun surrounded by many beauties for an entire afternoon, some nice BBQ, games, swimming with several naked ladies and some really good options. At Palace there is the unmistakable Jennifer who provides truly fabulous service. Some other gems and there is a new crop of thin, sexy brunettes at Mainhattan. In Aca Gold, not my favourite club and only visited once but plenty of decent options for e-euros /30 minutes. I didn't see many gypsies. The party atmosphere in Samya (Cologne) was fabulous. The only similar experience was in FKK Oceans (Dusseldorf) which has become a club much like Scandalos without the quality of line up.
For me, the overall FKK experience is far better than mongering on the CDS. A days mongering in a good FKK, good food, pool, sauna, steam, gym (Artemis), professional massage, to aid recovery in between multiple sessions, is a better total experience than in a Spanish club.
I also think a general brandishing of German cities (Qaz extended your critique of "boring" Frankfurt to others) is a little unfair. Berlin beats Malaga for interest every day of the week. Dresden is small but very interesting. Munich is my favourite city in Europe after Rome, and Hamburg is classy and interesting if you ignore the Reep. You are certainly correct that FRA is boring and indeed the climate is unquestionably better on CDS. Spain as a country, with its culture, food, climate etc is indeed more interesting.
Only my 2 cents but the notion that all of Germany is boring is inaccurate. On the CDS, Malaga is a nice city, Estepona a beautiful town, but Puerto Banus now resembles the RLD of Frankfurt, is a dump, dangerous, and I'm afraid the likes of Torremolinos, Fuengirola, Benalmadena (all mirror Blackpool in the sun) are far less attractive to visit than Cologne, Dusseldorf, Stuttgart, Berlin, Munich, Dresden or Hamburg. A train journey mid Germany along the Rhine between clubs is stunningly beautiful. More so than the A7/ N340 any day. Despite this, I do love Spain, like its food, language and climate, but as a mongering destination I am more with The Cane. Its had its best days. Prices have gone crazy and value for money is hard to find in the clubs. Cue A Expat and his allegedly stunning independents who provide the best sex for a can of coke, a bed and a bocadillo jamon why queso! But in truth for those mongers who want to select from a line up without the awful villa parada, it's become quite expensive. Recent reports of 350 or even 400/ hour in Miladys. Crazy. There are still deals to be had both in E92 and Scandalos. German FKKs do have some variety. But not as much as in Spain so your overall point is not entirely unfair in that regard, though a generalisation that most girls in German clubs are not pretty is not my experience. And certainly not in the past year. I had one night recently when I was so disappointed in the line up at Scandalos that I jumped an expensive cab to E92 for the better options (and got slaughtered for spending the money to do that!).
So the options in Scandalos are not always that great. In fairness I did end up staying next door at Malaga Nostrum, so returned and had a good session when the line up improved. But it was then past 2 am! In Germany the daytime line ups can be good, and if not, it changes into the evening line up so a whole new batch to choose from after dinner!
Both have their pluses and minuses. When I mentioned cyclical I meant quality of line up. It fluctuates anywhere. In Germany some clubs (Sharks) have had exceptional years, then fade, then revive - or not. Ditto in Spain. There was a time in Scandalos when it was far more than the odd 9/10 and even some 10/10's. Those days, for me, appear to have gone for now. Maybe they will return. I honestly don't think there is an awful lot to choose between Spain and Germany but if I had to pick, my preference is Germany. All that said, I have to say that neither have the stunners that are in Dubai! Some of the Uzbeks and Russians are truly 10's. More expensive, but the quality (and the diversity) is far greater as it is currently in vogue / the place to be. Too hot, strict rules, humid, not a lot to see (Deira has its qualities) but for mongering. Excellent. As ever, to each their own!No worries agree to disagree. I would personally never go back to an FKK. The girls that there are from one country and the quality is low. But you guys fill you boots, using the gym with a hard on and eating poor food has never been much of a draw to me.
Dubai is the number one destination in the world for mongering as of 2022. Fairly large concentration of money in a relatively small area. So that's that.
Scandalo in Brazil sounds tempting, but with a 22 hour round flight to fuck a few Brazilians. Na.
I find a way to find, shag, pay, date some very hot women in Marbella. Including MP, Villa, Seeking Arrangements.
Of late nowhere is reporting amazing quality. Zurich, Apro, Frankfurt, Malaga, - Dubai has weathered the storm and seeking arrangements is where the 9/10 are elsewhere. Its time consuming, but can produce amazing results.
If you really know you way around Barcelona, that can really produce some amazing results.
The 3 girls I took back to the hotel from Pigmalion 300/2 hours we clear stunners.
So if its a competition - 1. Dubai wins, but don't expect or hope for CIM and Anal.
2. Spain second. If you really know how to navigate the scene, that is definitely more variety than FKK's.
3. Germany. Chain smoking Romanians, the sight of other naked men and big sausages.
Enjoy MS.
Unusual for me to disagree with your (excellent) posts, but for once I do. I visit Germany usually four or five times per year as well as being in Spain for maybe 5 months every year (though that is decreasing and am spending more time in Dubai and Far East as time moves on).
Some of the comments are a little too general and represent the past not the present. For example, Scandalos, for the past 2 years, has less variety. It is now 99% South American girls mainly from Columbia. There are only 3 EE girls now registered at the club and two of them (Melthi gym body, and Ana. Marilyn Monroe lookalike) barely ever work in there now. Anna (blonde with glasses) still does. By contrast, in E92 you will find the said variety you mention. I also agree you find the odd stunner at Scandalos (more frequently than at E92 but not always the case).
E92 is still predominantly EE and there are many gypsy girls working there. Doesn't bother me in the slightest. If they are pretty and fun I really don't care. Many of them are both. There is no huge difference in quality of girls between E92 (my preferred club on CDS) and Frankfurt FKKs. It is cyclical. On occasions, FKK Sharks, Oase, World, Mainhattan and Palace have had real stunners. None of them ever a match for the incredible blonde Melissa at Scandalos in 2008-2017 but nevertheless some really breathtakingly attractive women who genuinely have a queue waiting even if that means a 2 hour wait. You don't see that much in Spain!
I agree that CIM is negotiable downstairs in Spain, but CIM, BBBJ and DFK (if either are your thing) are far more readily provided in Germany than in Spain. For sure, if you get to know a girl in the CDS clubs, and have had several sessions, all become very much available. And at no extra charge. Most girls in Spain will do BBBJ provided the hygiene level is good but some will flat out refuse. In Germany all of these extras (and others) are available from nearly all of the girls. Indeed, until the BBBJ silly law change in Germany in July 2017, DFK and BBBJ were considered part of "standard" service for 50 euros /30 minutes. Only when that law came in did girls start upselling BBBJ in Frankfurt and Berlin. In FKK Artemis it is now standard 20 extra for BBBJ for every girl and has been since 2018. It has always been an extra in Bavarian clubs and often also the case in Hamburg (FKK Atmos / Harmony / Babylon). So for guys wanting a guarantee of these services Germany is better albeit for extra money.
I think a generalisation that the market in Germany is saturated with gypsies is not correct. There are plenty, but not really more so than in E92. Moreover, to say the general consensus is that there are not many pretty girls is really very wide of the mark. I was there 2 months ago. The options were excellent even outside of FKKs. I found choosing in the Laierkausten laufhaus in Munich (far better than FKK Sunshine) very difficult indeed because the options were really quite exceptional with several 9's. All of them would have outshone anyone I have seen in Scandalos in the past 2 years. Every one of them available for 200/ hour (which is less than in Scandalos). Ditto one excellent Saturday in FKK Oase. Soaked up the sun surrounded by many beauties for an entire afternoon, some nice BBQ, games, swimming with several naked ladies and some really good options. At Palace there is the unmistakable Jennifer who provides truly fabulous service. Some other gems and there is a new crop of thin, sexy brunettes at Mainhattan. In Aca Gold, not my favourite club and only visited once but plenty of decent options for e-euros /30 minutes. I didn't see many gypsies. The party atmosphere in Samya (Cologne) was fabulous. The only similar experience was in FKK Oceans (Dusseldorf) which has become a club much like Scandalos without the quality of line up.
For me, the overall FKK experience is far better than mongering on the CDS. A days mongering in a good FKK, good food, pool, sauna, steam, gym (Artemis), professional massage, to aid recovery in between multiple sessions, is a better total experience than in a Spanish club.
I also think a general brandishing of German cities (Qaz extended your critique of "boring" Frankfurt to others) is a little unfair. Berlin beats Malaga for interest every day of the week. Dresden is small but very interesting. Munich is my favourite city in Europe after Rome, and Hamburg is classy and interesting if you ignore the Reep. You are certainly correct that FRA is boring and indeed the climate is unquestionably better on CDS. Spain as a country, with its culture, food, climate etc is indeed more interesting.
Only my 2 cents but the notion that all of Germany is boring is inaccurate. On the CDS, Malaga is a nice city, Estepona a beautiful town, but Puerto Banus now resembles the RLD of Frankfurt, is a dump, dangerous, and I'm afraid the likes of Torremolinos, Fuengirola, Benalmadena (all mirror Blackpool in the sun) are far less attractive to visit than Cologne, Dusseldorf, Stuttgart, Berlin, Munich, Dresden or Hamburg. A train journey mid Germany along the Rhine between clubs is stunningly beautiful. More so than the A7/ N340 any day. Despite this, I do love Spain, like its food, language and climate, but as a mongering destination I am more with The Cane. Its had its best days. Prices have gone crazy and value for money is hard to find in the clubs. Cue A Expat and his allegedly stunning independents who provide the best sex for a can of coke, a bed and a bocadillo jamon why queso!🥴🤭 But in truth for those mongers who want to select from a line up without the awful villa parada, it's become quite expensive. Recent reports of 350 or even 400/ hour in Miladys. Crazy. 👎
There are still deals to be had both in E92 and Scandalos. German FKKs do have some variety. But not as much as in Spain so your overall point is not entirely unfair in that regard, though a generalisation that most girls in German clubs are not pretty is not my experience. And certainly not in the past year. I had one night recently when I was so disappointed in the line up at Scandalos that I jumped an expensive cab to E92 for the better options (and got slaughtered for spending the money to do that!).
So the options in Scandalos are not always that great. In fairness I did end up staying next door at Malaga Nostrum, so returned and had a good session when the line up improved. But it was then past 2 am! In Germany the daytime line ups can be good, and if not, it changes into the evening line up so a whole new batch to choose from after dinner!
Both have their pluses and minuses. When I mentioned cyclical I meant quality of line up. It fluctuates anywhere. In Germany some clubs (Sharks) have had exceptional years, then fade, then revive - or not. Ditto in Spain. There was a time in Scandalos when it was far more than the odd 9/10 and even some 10/10's. Those days, for me, appear to have gone for now. Maybe they will return. I honestly don't think there is an awful lot to choose between Spain and Germany but if I had to pick, my preference is Germany. All that said, I have to say that neither have the stunners that are in Dubai! Some of the Uzbeks and Russians are truly 10's. More expensive, but the quality (and the diversity) is far greater as it is currently in vogue / the place to be. Too hot, strict rules, humid, not a lot to see (Deira has its qualities) but for mongering. Excellent. As ever, to each their own!I said that I actually like Germany, the countryside is beautiful, cities are fine, Berlin being my favorite in Germany but after exploring Berlin for 2,3 days then I start to get bored because there is not so much to see or do, that never happens in cities like Barcelona, Madrid or even Sevilla. Thats why many germans head to spain for their vacations, good food, good weather, warm people and lots of clubs and bars. Spain is possibly the best travel destination.
Mongering is good in Germany but the biggest problem is the open door policy of Germany. Tbh in Frankfurt and Dusseldorf (the only german cities I tried mongering) I didn't feel safe at all. RLD in frankfurt is just horrible, extremely dirty and full of criminals from other countries, it just doesn't feel like europe. Inside the clubs, same again full of immigrants trying to mug you. Dusseldorf pretty much the same, fighting outside its biggest club, pretty scary.
I haven't been to FKK so can't comment on that but I'm sure many immigrants head to those too. For me safety is the most important thing, I want to feel relaxed when in a club, unfortunately I didn't feel that way in Germany, Austria. Switzerland was fine for mongering, I didn't have to worry for my wallet but as magic says there was no variety and very cold girls.
Also as you correctly said scandalo is full of SA but there are many countries in south America, so there are many girls from different areas of SA, all of them different.
Dubai girls are very good, mostly high end but I know a dozen of them who work on CDS during the summer and go there after Sept.
MagicSheep74
08-26-22, 15:09
I said that I actually like Germany, the countryside is beautiful, cities are fine, Berlin being my favorite in Germany but after exploring Berlin for 2,3 days then I start to get bored because there is not so much to see or do, that never happens in cities like Barcelona, Madrid or even Sevilla. Thats why many germans head to spain for their vacations, good food, good weather, warm people and lots of clubs and bars. Spain is possibly the best travel destination.
Mongering is good in Germany but the biggest problem is the open door policy of Germany. Tbh in Frankfurt and Dusseldorf (the only german cities I tried mongering) I didn't feel safe at all. RLD in frankfurt is just horrible, extremely dirty and full of criminals from other countries, it just doesn't feel like europe. Inside the clubs, same again full of immigrants trying to mug you. Dusseldorf pretty much the same, fighting outside its biggest club, pretty scary.
I haven't been to FKK so can't comment on that but I'm sure many immigrants head to those too. For me safety is the most important thing, I want to feel relaxed when in a club, unfortunately I didn't feel that way in Germany, Austria. Switzerland was fine for mongering, I didn't have to worry for my wallet but as magic says there was no variety and very cold girls.
Also as you correctly said scandalo is full of SA but there are many countries in south America, so there are many girls from different areas of SA, all of them different.
Dubai girls are very good, mostly high end but I know a dozen of them who work on CDS during the summer and go there after Sept.If I had unlimited money to spend, and unlimited time to spend it. Dubai is currently the number 1 place in the world in my opinion.
I never said Germany was miserable and boring. I said Frankfurt was, I really quite enjoyed Berlin, but not for women.
I think we can all agree the overall standard in Europe has dropped in clubs. There is various reasons for this, that I can't really be arsed going into.
The FKK format works really well, but its just not my scene. Men in robes, 99% Romanians, Wellness etc. I already have a gym membership, so I am not there for that.
In my time in Spanish clubs and villas I've sampled. Brazilians, Colombians, Venezuelans, Cubans, Mexicans, Russians, Moldovans, Lebanese, Ukrainians, Latvians, Dominicans, and of course a 1000 Romanians. This is not happening in FKK world.
Puerto Banus is not like the RLD of Frankfurt, even though it does have a dodgy area. I don't live in an apartment in ' Full Cooked English Breakfast town. I live in a villa north of Puerto Banus overlooking the Mediterranean.
My reports on the current quality in the Costa Del Sol will follow in 4 weeks when I return. I expect the overall quality will have dropped, so my expectations will not be high. Although I will find superior women than is currently in the FKKs based on all the disappointed reports I am reading from Germany on a weekly basis.
Peace out.
I haven't been to FKK so can't comment on that but I'm sure many immigrants head to those too. For me safety is the most important thing, I want to feel relaxed when in a club, unfortunately I didn't feel that way in Germany, Austria.This, and you say that you haven't even been to an FKK? Look, I care about my safety and comfort too. A lot! I would not be a tourist in any country and / or patronize any kind of business where I didn't have those two things. Seems to me that you've been to Germany looking in all the wrong places, and that's the problem. Cost can't be the issue since you pay more to get less on the CDS the way I see it. Try going to the top FKKs before writing off a whole nation when you haven't even experienced all that the place has to offer. Try it. You might like it! PFI and I sure as hell do LOL! And we're still alive and well, not having gotten mugged, etc. Come on man. Live a little! I'm not even talking about the wild side. You already did that. That would be the RLD LOL! One reason I don't go there (among many) is precisely because I do want to be safe! And yet, you go there to a place that is dirty and unsafe and say you don't feel safe (but of course), then turn around and write off all of Germany when it was you yourself who put yourself in an unsafe / dirty situation when there were other better choices you could have made (FKKs and escorts to name a couple). Come on man! That's just not making any sense and your reasoning is lacking here.
I said that I actually like Germany, the countryside is beautiful, cities are fine, Berlin being my favorite in Germany but after exploring Berlin for 2,3 days then I start to get bored because there is not so much to see or do, that never happens in cities like Barcelona, Madrid or even Sevilla. Thats why many germans head to spain for their vacations, good food, good weather, warm people and lots of clubs and bars. Spain is possibly the best travel destination.
Mongering is good in Germany but the biggest problem is the open door policy of Germany. Tbh in Frankfurt and Dusseldorf (the only german cities I tried mongering) I didn't feel safe at all. RLD in frankfurt is just horrible, extremely dirty and full of criminals from other countries, it just doesn't feel like europe. Inside the clubs, same again full of immigrants trying to mug you. Dusseldorf pretty much the same, fighting outside its biggest club, pretty scary.
I haven't been to FKK so can't comment on that but I'm sure many immigrants head to those too. For me safety is the most important thing, I want to feel relaxed when in a club, unfortunately I didn't feel that way in Germany, Austria. Switzerland was fine for mongering, I didn't have to worry for my wallet but as magic says there was no variety and very cold girls.
Also as you correctly said scandalo is full of SA but there are many countries in south America, so there are many girls from different areas of SA, all of them different.
Dubai girls are very good, mostly high end but I know a dozen of them who work on CDS during the summer and go there after Sept.Spain is far better country than Germany for holidays, foods, sea, mountains. So many Germans love Spain. But for paid sex and when You need real french kiss like me, I m pretty sure Germany is easier and for much less expensive, even with German girls. I have one who is a busy superstar, so lovely, for 200/120 full GFE, squirting, she proposed me on our discovery, from my way for DATY. At Sharks which is one the biggest club in Germany, south Frankfurt, mostly Balkanians on late night, I was many times the only Caucasian at closing at 5 am and on parking, and never had any problem. I would worry more at Paradise Junquera with many low level French, when I m French, when Figueras, Ampuriabrava and Rosas are beautiful. What I love in Germany are autobahns, even can also push in Spain like in Italy.
This, and you say that you haven't even been to an FKK? Look, I care about my safety and comfort too. A lot! I would not be a tourist in any country and / or patronize any kind of business where I didn't have those two things. Seems to me that you've been to Germany looking in all the wrong places, and that's the problem. Cost can't be the issue since you pay more to get less on the CDS the way I see it. Try going to the top FKKs before writing off a whole nation when you haven't even experienced all that the place has to offer. Try it. You might like it! PFI and I sure as hell do LOL! And we're still alive and well, not having gotten mugged, etc. Come on man. Live a little! I'm not even talking about the wild side. You already did that. That would be the RLD LOL! One reason I don't go there (among many) is precisely because I do want to be safe! And yet, you go there to a place that is dirty and unsafe and say you don't feel safe (but of course), then turn around and write off all of Germany when it was you yourself who put yourself in an unsafe / dirty situation when there were other better choices you could have made (FKKs and escorts to name a couple). Come on man! That's just not making any sense and your reasoning is lacking here.I will possibly visit FKK next time in Germany. My experience was about normal brothels and night clubs. It was my first time in frankfurt so didn't expect to see the RLD to be that bad, headed back to the hotel after 5 minutes walking there.
Dubai is good if you are looking for high end of the market. But I wouldn't dare mongering there as you never know what may happen in these countries, rules can change in 5 seconds there and if you are caught over there then.
Dubai is good if you are looking for high end of the market. But I wouldn't dare mongering there as you never know what may happen in these countries, rules can change in 5 seconds there and if you are caught over there then.I would say that you are right in this about Dubai. But, like so many others, I took a chance and went for it. Stuck to the rules and didn't do shit to draw undue attention to myself. Go to the right places and you got tutes and free flowing alcohol everywhere in a Muslim country (Morocco is good too but UAE better)! There were so, so many hot Ruskie girls in Dubai too. Fucked a pretty blonde one from Crimea in my hotel room. But also Turkish (very dirty) and Filipina (told me an Arab guy had impregnated her) and Turkmen (white-skinned, eastern orthodox pussy)! There were Chinese girls and Ethiopian girls and Arab girls and Iranian girls and pretty tutes from all over the Former Soviet Union. Best overall selection on the planet (and I'm not even listing them all). My God met an incredibly exotic one. Russian father and Chinese mother. Looked Russian but was Chinese in every other way, including speech (was raised 100% by her mother). So exotic! Now all that said, you get more for less money in Brazil and Germany. Hell Thailand and the PI too! Yes, yes I know I'm sounding like a broken record, but it's true! Brazil and Germany offer the best overall value (high-quality sexual services provided for the money expended). This is my view. This is my truth LOL!
Lots of great points by The Cane / Magic Sheep and Qaz.
I too want to be safe. But I also want to enjoy experiences and that often involves some degree of risk.
Frankfurt RLD is truly awful. Horribly dirty, and some of those streets running from the hauptbahnof are like a war zone. I would not feel safe mongering in that area at all, but then I never have in the streets of Brussels following immigrant influx. I don't go anymore because of being robbed there once. No violence just clever slight of hand theft. Had I caught the guy there would have been violence! But that is an area to be avoided.
Never mongered in SAmerica at all despite having previously holidayed there prior to getting divorced! Might as well have gone for it! Would truly love to try it but as MS says - long way to go. That said I love Thailand and that's not close either. I actually think that facially SA girls are the best looking. I just really don't like big booties and there are a lot of them in that area of the world from what I see in Scandalos Malaga! When you find a slim and stunning SA girl they are really hard to beat. I am also mildly put off by the SA penchant for drugs - really not my thing and I find it a real turn off. I know you have the option to refuse (I do) but it sort of feels like spoiling the party a bit and I don’t like the feeling I’m paying for a tute to feed her drug addiction. But hey, for all I know I might be doing that with 99% of the girls I session with even if they don’t show it openly. I must get a mongering visit to SA at some point. The danger factor is of course there again. Felt safe in Argentina but not sure I would feel the same on Copacabana!
Qaz expresses concern about LE in Dubai. It is certainly correct that falling foul of the law here is most definitely not worth risk. But attitudes have undoubtedly changed. It is no longer against the law to be in a hotel room with a member of the opposite sex if not married. So that worry has gone. I doubt any of us are disrespectful to anyone or drunk in public. So again, managing the risks is possible. What is a nuisance is that some hotels are green and others red. Research necessary before selection if, like me, you don’t want hookers coming to your home. That’s one advantage of Spain and Germany - mongering on the premises in clubs/FKKs instead of having to take them to hotels. I don’t do SWs and would not visit a hooker on outcall - again - the danger factor of not knowing what to expect when you get there and horror stories (not only in Spain) of gangsters awaiting the eager punter and rinsing him under threat. What are you going to do - report it to the police?!!
The FKK experience is fairly unique. It is of course correct that the vast majority of the girls are Romanian or at least EE, though it's not difficult to find other nationalities, including Germans (if you try or want them. I think I gave the wrong impression regarding gyms at FKKs. I am only aware of one. At FKK Artemis in Berlin. I wish they all had them! For sure I don't go to an FKK for the gym! It's the other way around! Many years ago in the FKK forums I read a quote from a guy who said that going to FKKs was his total motivation to keep fit. Probably not the right reason but I totally get it. If you don't want to be one of those very fat guys wearing a robe or towel its a real driver! I'm not sure I would be quite as lean if I wasn't regularly visiting FKKs! Too easy to hide flab under clothes. Boy enough girls in clubs do it! I like the fact that sex is not the only activity on offer in an FKK. The ability to have an hour of sex, then head to a gym, or sauna, or sunbathing or swimming or even eating for recovery time, is good, as is the professional massage. MS makes a good point about chain smoking. For years before it closed I would not return to Living Room (Cologne) as it had what I called "the cancer lounge" where it was impossible not to inhale the rancid smoke whilst choosing the girls. Happily, most of the big FKKs now have designated smoking rooms / areas behind glass (as you see in many airports). This means the main areas are smoke free. Far far better.
Interesting comment by MS on Barca. Never really been there to monger but must give it a go. Ditto Pigmalion. Never been but the reports about this premium club in Madrid are good even if prices are reportedly high. The 300 price MS got seems a bargain. I've been threatening to go there for years and never got around to it! I must put that right!
The comments on Dubai are correct and the options are actually increasing. There is indeed diversity but oddly mainly venue related with some clubs favouring Viets and Filipinos whilst others are more Russians and others Uzbeks / Iranians and some of the slightly downmarket venues (but not dangerous and good fun) have quite a few African nations represented! The proliferation of AMS is noticeable though there was a police raid last week with many arrests which were highly publicised.
I always found the diversity in Club Vive Madrid one of its main attractions. I have had sessions with Americans, Brits, Japanese as well as SAs and EEs there. My last visit wasn't so successful but it was covid recovery period last year.
Sounds like you are towards Nueva Andalucia MS. A very nice area with some great restaurants and a good selection of top golf courses (I love playing Las Brisas).
On a final and positive note. Many thanks to Qaz re his confirmation that the feared legislation was all about vote winning and, as I reported when it first was mentioned. The club owners howled laughing and quipped that it would never come to fruition. Whilst they were right I do know that as the issue came closer the early dismissiveness gave way to genuine concern that in fact it could spell real trouble and a need for creativity. Happily, it's gone away, hence the options remain. Let's hope it paves the way for greater options on the CDS which at one point was very much a top mongering destination but has fallen from its previous glory. But then as MS correctly says, that is true of a lot of Europe. Much to the derision of some senior members of the London thread I have reported for years that its options have truly diminished unless you are willing to run the bait and switch escort scene. In fairness, some of the top agencies have combated bait and switch by getting the girls to post selfie pics and videos. Great idea and it's become common for girls to expect a punter to request a short FaceTime or video which will be available for 10 minutes before auto-deleting. At least you get to see what you are really buying then. But the UK is a long way behind other European countries as a mongering destination. Shame as its a great country to visit.
I anticipate getting back to CDS for a mini break soon, but will return East then for European winter. A sure sign of getting older is chasing the climate instead of the girls!
MagicSheep74
08-27-22, 09:34
Lots of great points by The Cane / Magic Sheep and Qaz.
I anticipate getting back to CDS for a mini break soon, but will return East then for European winter. A sure sign of getting older is chasing the climate instead of the girls!Great stuff PFI, I think once in my life I will head across to Sao Paulo for a trip and I do really read a lot of very positive things about mongering there. I done Rio De Janeiro many years ago and while the city was incredibly impressive, I not overly so with the women. Although I here there is much more diversity to there appearance in SP.
Definitely give Pygmalion a shot next time you pass through Madrid. I lived in Barcelona 10 years ago for 18 months and Catalan guy put my onto the local forum about girls. And some of the girls it produced were simply stunning, albeit independents. Is it still the same now in Barca or Pygmalion, I have not been for years. So can't comment with complete confidence.
My report on 92, MP, Scandalo, The revamped Casa MASA will follow in 4 weeks when I return to Marbella. Expectations not high, but I always have fun.
Stay safe.
And QAZ, get yourself to Dubai when you get the chance. The United Nations of Muff. Never felt in any danger.
Lots of great points by The Cane / Magic Sheep and Qaz.
I too want to be safe. But I also want to enjoy experiences and that often involves some degree of risk.
Frankfurt RLD is truly awful. Horribly dirty, and some of those streets running from the hauptbahnof are like a war zone. I would not feel safe mongering in that area at all, but then I never have in the streets of Brussels following immigrant influx. I don't go anymore because of being robbed there once. No violence just clever slight of hand theft. Had I caught the guy there would have been violence! But that is an area to be avoided.
Never mongered in SAmerica at all despite having previously holidayed there prior to getting divorced! Might as well have gone for it! Would truly love to try it but as MS says - long way to go. That said I love Thailand and that's not close either. I actually think that facially SA girls are the best looking. I just really don't like big booties and there are a lot of them in that area of the world from what I see in Scandalos Malaga! When you find a slim and stunning SA girl they are really hard to beat. I am also mildly put off by the SA penchant for drugs - really not my thing and I find it a real turn off. I know you have the option to refuse (I do) but it sort of feels like spoiling the party a bit and I dont like the feeling Im paying for a tute to feed her drug addiction. But hey, for all I know I might be doing that with 99% of the girls I session with even if they dont show it openly. I must get a mongering visit to SA at some point. The danger factor is of course there again. Felt safe in Argentina but not sure I would feel the same on Copacabana!
Qaz expresses concern about LE in Dubai. It is certainly correct that falling foul of the law here is most definitely not worth risk. But attitudes have undoubtedly changed. It is no longer against the law to be in a hotel room with a member of the opposite sex if not married. So that worry has gone. I doubt any of us are disrespectful to anyone or drunk in public. So again, managing the risks is possible. What is a nuisance is that some hotels are green and others red. Research necessary before selection if, like me, you dont want hookers coming to your home. Thats one advantage of Spain and Germany - mongering on the premises in clubs/FKKs instead of having to take them to hotels. I dont do SWs and would not visit a hooker on outcall - again - the danger factor of not knowing what to expect when you get there and horror stories (not only in Spain) of gangsters awaiting the eager punter and rinsing him under threat. What are you going to do - report it to the police?!!
The FKK experience is fairly unique. It is of course correct that the vast majority of the girls are Romanian or at least EE, though it's not difficult to find other nationalities, including Germans (if you try or want them. I think I gave the wrong impression regarding gyms at FKKs. I am only aware of one. At FKK Artemis in Berlin. I wish they all had them! For sure I don't go to an FKK for the gym! It's the other way around! Many years ago in the FKK forums I read a quote from a guy who said that going to FKKs was his total motivation to keep fit. Probably not the right reason but I totally get it. If you don't want to be one of those very fat guys wearing a robe or towel its a real driver! I'm not sure I would be quite as lean if I wasn't regularly visiting FKKs! Too easy to hide flab under clothes. Boy enough girls in clubs do it! I like the fact that sex is not the only activity on offer in an FKK. The ability to have an hour of sex, then head to a gym, or sauna, or sunbathing or swimming or even eating for recovery time, is good, as is the professional massage. MS makes a good point about chain smoking. For years before it closed I would not return to Living Room (Cologne) as it had what I called "the cancer lounge" where it was impossible not to inhale the rancid smoke whilst choosing the girls. Happily, most of the big FKKs now have designated smoking rooms / areas behind glass (as you see in many airports). This means the main areas are smoke free. Far far better.
Interesting comment by MS on Barca. Never really been there to monger but must give it a go. Ditto Pigmalion. Never been but the reports about this premium club in Madrid are good even if prices are reportedly high. The 300 price MS got seems a bargain. I've been threatening to go there for years and never got around to it! I must put that right!
The comments on Dubai are correct and the options are actually increasing. There is indeed diversity but oddly mainly venue related with some clubs favouring Viets and Filipinos whilst others are more Russians and others Uzbeks / Iranians and some of the slightly downmarket venues (but not dangerous and good fun) have quite a few African nations represented! The proliferation of AMS is noticeable though there was a police raid last week with many arrests which were highly publicised.
I always found the diversity in Club Vive Madrid one of its main attractions. I have had sessions with Americans, Brits, Japanese as well as SAs and EEs there. My last visit wasn't so successful but it was covid recovery period last year.
Sounds like you are towards Nueva Andalucia MS. A very nice area with some great restaurants and a good selection of top golf courses (I love playing Las Brisas).
On a final and positive note. Many thanks to Qaz re his confirmation that the feared legislation was all about vote winning and, as I reported when it first was mentioned. The club owners howled laughing and quipped that it would never come to fruition. Whilst they were right I do know that as the issue came closer the early dismissiveness gave way to genuine concern that in fact it could spell real trouble and a need for creativity. Happily, it's gone away, hence the options remain. Let's hope it paves the way for greater options on the CDS which at one point was very much a top mongering destination but has fallen from its previous glory. But then as MS correctly says, that is true of a lot of Europe. Much to the derision of some senior members of the London thread I have reported for years that its options have truly diminished unless you are willing to run the bait and switch escort scene. In fairness, some of the top agencies have combated bait and switch by getting the girls to post selfie pics and videos. Great idea and it's become common for girls to expect a punter to request a short FaceTime or video which will be available for 10 minutes before auto-deleting. At least you get to see what you are really buying then. But the UK is a long way behind other European countries as a mongering destination. Shame as its a great country to visit.
I anticipate getting back to CDS for a mini break soon, but will return East then for European winter. A sure sign of getting older is chasing the climate instead of the girls!Pigmalion in madrid is amazing, its mostly latina, but nothing like fat asses and stuff, all of the are great looking and willing to please. The whole club looks posh and great (a bit like milady) but there are more options and great place to have a drink. Prices like milday more or less.
The location is also great with some great hotels nearby to stay. Its a must. You must visit it once.
I never do incalls. Was tempted once in ibiza but then decided against it. Don't want to have problems.
Lots of great points by The Cane / Magic Sheep and Qaz.
I too want to be safe. But I also want to enjoy experiences and that often involves some degree of risk.
Frankfurt RLD is truly awful. Horribly dirty, and some of those streets running from the hauptbahnof are like a war zone. I would not feel safe mongering in that area at all, but then I never have in the streets of Brussels following immigrant influx. I don't go anymore because of being robbed there once. No violence just clever slight of hand theft. Had I caught the guy there would have been violence! But that is an area to be avoided.
Never mongered in SAmerica at all despite having previously holidayed there prior to getting divorced! Might as well have gone for it! Would truly love to try it but as MS says - long way to go. That said I love Thailand and that's not close either. I actually think that facially SA girls are the best looking. I just really don't like big booties and there are a lot of them in that area of the world from what I see in Scandalos Malaga! When you find a slim and stunning SA girl they are really hard to beat. I am also mildly put off by the SA penchant for drugs - really not my thing and I find it a real turn off. I know you have the option to refuse (I do) but it sort of feels like spoiling the party a bit and I dont like the feeling Im paying for a tute to feed her drug addiction. But hey, for all I know I might be doing that with 99% of the girls I session with even if they dont show it openly. I must get a mongering visit to SA at some point. The danger factor is of course there again. Felt safe in Argentina but not sure I would feel the same on Copacabana!
Qaz expresses concern about LE in Dubai. It is certainly correct that falling foul of the law here is most definitely not worth risk. But attitudes have undoubtedly changed. It is no longer against the law to be in a hotel room with a member of the opposite sex if not married. So that worry has gone. I doubt any of us are disrespectful to anyone or drunk in public. So again, managing the risks is possible. What is a nuisance is that some hotels are green and others red. Research necessary before selection if, like me, you dont want hookers coming to your home. Thats one advantage of Spain and Germany - mongering on the premises in clubs/FKKs instead of having to take them to hotels. I dont do SWs and would not visit a hooker on outcall - again - the danger factor of not knowing what to expect when you get there and horror stories (not only in Spain) of gangsters awaiting the eager punter and rinsing him under threat. What are you going to do - report it to the police?!! Living Room was in Kaarst, Dusseldorf suburb, not Koln. Best club in Germany on 2016/2017 for girls level for GFE. I called it my little Globe. Had 80 hours with a exceptional Romanian beauty on 7 months. My best ever FKK girl including Globe Zurich.
Pigmalion in madrid is amazing, its mostly latina, but nothing like fat asses and stuff, all of the are great looking and willing to please. The whole club looks posh and great (a bit like milady) but there are more options and great place to have a drink. Prices like milday more or less.
The location is also great with some great hotels nearby to stay. Its a must. You must visit it once.
I never do incalls. Was tempted once in ibiza but then decided against it. Don't want to have problems.Pigmalion has some lookers no doubt. I only went there once and never returned though because the price was just too high! Just couldn't justify spending that kind of money when I knew there were plenty of other places around town where I could get what I wanted at much better prices. In safe and clean environs LOL! Can't believe PFI still hasn't been there! I loved the variety of the place. Called over the girl I liked the most and turned out she was Brazilian (I know how to sniff the Brasiliera "buceta" out in a crowd haha). But also talked to girls from South Africa and Spain. I wanted the Brasiliera, but she was just talking stupid money to go back to my hotel with me. So, I left empty-handed that night.
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