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Locamotive
10-16-20, 00:54
Had a craving for breast so called up this 23 yr old after session of 69 deepthroat and tongue wrestling paids for her taxi less than 20 usd.I don't mean to dispute your prices but I've see a few others post on Vietnam with similar prices and these girls are very attractive. I lived and worked in Vietnam just over a year. I worked with allot of other guys there as well. Some were in Hanoi, DaNang but most of us in Saigon, some old some young A few buddies have looked on the Vietnam post but they just laugh, I admit I do too. 10.20. 25.30 USD really, when was this 1965?Unless you gentlemen look like Tom Cruise or Brad Pitt it seems very far fetched. Maybe these prices are for 10 or 15 minutes I do not know. All the woman I've met and its allot will be at least 1,000,000 around 50 dollars ST but usually it 2,000,000 as they stay all night. Way way way out in a province somewhere maybe those prices but again I can't even see that. Guys in Saigon will drive girls too you nothing like the quality in those pics but they aint 20 bucks. Even the girls over there I show those post, they can't stop laughing. I of course will be going back as soon as travel resumes maybe we could meet, I want to see how that is even possible.

ManonsanBoy
10-16-20, 14:28
I don't mean to dispute your prices but I've see a few others post on Vietnam ...........y stay all night. Way way way out in a province somewhere maybe those prices but again I can't even see that. Guys in Saigon will drive girls too you nothing like the quality in those pics but they aint 20 bucks. Even the girls over there I show those post, they can't stop laughing. I of course will be going back as soon as travel resumes maybe we could meet, I want to see how that is even possible.I agree. I was in Vietnam in 2018 and the prices quoted are unrealistic. This is a common problem also. In many posts in areas where I have been, I find prices report to be at the low end.

Member #4667
10-16-20, 16:02
I agree. I was in Vietnam in 2018 and the prices quoted are unrealistic. This is a common problem also. In many posts in areas where I have been, I find prices report to be at the low end.I sent you a PM with a reply but I thought a more public response was needed.

So can I be clear on your points.

Are you saying, so for a country of 80 mill where probably 10 mill are men of fucking age, where the average monthly income is around 5-6 mill, where a university graduate with 4-5 yrs experience is earning 10 mill, where a qualified lawyers with a few years experience earns 20 mill, where there is currently a economic recession due to Covid, in your mind the realistic price should be 1 mill ST, for everyone as this is the market rate. Anything else reported is unrealistic and is fake news.

Or due you mean only posts where 60+yr old at best average looking non Asian foreigners who have no local contacts, don't speak the language, and are tourists, can realistically obtain eg reports about fucking 35 yrs old 60 khg women paying 1 mill etc should be allowed as anything else would be unrealistically achievable for this group, even if they may be in the majority of posters / readers?

Locamotive
10-17-20, 16:10
I agree. I was in Vietnam in 2018 and the prices quoted are unrealistic. This is a common problem also. In many posts in areas where I have been, I find prices report to be at the low end.You are correct, and I was there Feb 2020 for Valentines day. Not only does Mr. Tom report these ridiculous prices but Mr. Chicken does the same thing on Vietnam. I can see guys trying to show their negotiating skills but 25 dollars. 13 dollars! I agree I take some of these prices on this board with a grain of salt but these were just too far off not to say something. True if you just step off the boat go down to say District 1 in Saigon, sure they will probably take advantage of you. I lived there over a year, worked there and I knew allot of girls, allot! Even the ugly ones aint doing 25 dollars. I knew all the managers in almost all the clubs, I knew people who knew people, so was I connected, yeah I think so. 50 dollars ST and 100 for overnight is about standard if they are decent. Could you just get a quickie BJ for 25 bucks, yeah that might be possible, but for any type of GFE or overnight stay. No!

Member #4667
10-17-20, 21:38
You are correct, and I was there Feb 2020 for Valentines day. Not only does Mr. Tom report these ridiculous prices but Mr. Chicken does the same thing on Vietnam. I can see guys trying to show their negotiating skills but 25 dollars. 13 dollars! I agree I take some of these prices on this board with a grain of salt but these were just too far off not to say something. True if you just step off the boat go down to say District 1 in Saigon, sure they will probably take advantage of you. I lived there over a year, worked there and I knew allot of girls, allot! Even the ugly ones aint doing 25 dollars. I knew all the managers in almost all the clubs, I knew people who knew people, so was I connected, yeah I think so. 50 dollars ST and 100 for overnight is about standard if they are decent. Could you just get a quickie BJ for 25 bucks, yeah that might be possible, but for any type of GFE or overnight stay. No!OK, I'll bite and engage in your mental masturbation, so let's examine each of your points.

Fact- you can't find any decent women willing to fuck you under 1 mill, I'll not dispute this, what you are claiming is that it's impossible for me to find decent women in the 300-400 k range. Firstly I never claimed that its was even probable that some tourist, or short term expat (1 yr working there) who doesn't speak the local language, is non Asian, doesn't engage in the local environment, is under a certain age (I know girls who publicly say they won't meet men over 50), and isn't above average in presentation, and who doesn't actively search for these bargain opportunities. I don't believe there is any ISG rule which states only reports that are realistic ie probable for a certain subsection of readers eg overweight balding Caucasian tourists should be allowed. If that was the case most of the reports say for example in Thailand about going in and then picking up some bargirl should be deleted, as our Indian readers will mostly likely experience rejection when attempting entry, so those posts are not realistic for Indians.

Speaking about Asians, as you mention you have asian friends who also experience failure like yourself, are you suggesting that Asians are some homogenous group, is it not likely that a japanese or korean would be treated differently than a local Vietnamese, as would other Asians like Indonesians who are dark skinned or Indians who have a internationally known bad reputations or Bangladeshi who are not as wealthy, or are you saying ALL Asians are treated equally by our fair Vietnamese maidens. So true my reports should be taken with a gain of salt if you think my report makes it clear that its probable rather than being its possible for me and if you fit into a narrow subsection of mongers. I take offense at the fact that you say its impossible and imply that I am liar.

So you claim you lived there, work there and know a lot of women, and despite this experienced failure. Why is your unsubstantiated claims more valid than my claims which are backed by evidence of pictures and even a screenshot of my negotiations with a attractive women (picture provided) where her offer of 500 k was negotiated to 400 k.

So you lived there 1 yr, wow, you hang out with other expats, you go to Pasteur expat bars, you go to Spas in expat ghetto Q2, are you saying only Q1 will be where you are overcharged and not in expat ghettos like q2. You know a lot of women, what is a lot, I have fucked 1260 women all in the 200-500 k women over the last 4 yrs, I don't even know how many since I arrived here, so what is your sample size of women to say that offers of 500 k will be rejected by the 2 mill+ or so of fucking age women in Saigon. Also I would suggest that the women you know are all from the same small tainted pool used by other men such as yourself, so what's the likely chance they will give you a good price when some other chump sitting next to you will accept her overpriced pussy.

So you know managers of clubs, are you saying that these managers if they connect you to women are not getting a finders fee and thus you re paying a inflated price, than if you had sourced it yourself. You knew people who knew people, wow Ill give you some news NO ONE cares or is interested in helping you get laid.

I also know people but the difference is I have good intel and so it possible for me to SWAP with them to get further intel, if I had nothing like you then I also wouldn't get help so knowing people makes no difference. So you know people, who are these people, other clueless expats, maybe your local grab driver you can barely communicate with as you can't speak the language or maybe your coworkers who may know but don't want to shit where they eat by telling you about their knowledge of the vice trade, saying you know people has no significant unless its the right people.

So where to the the 1 mill+ men of fucking age go for sex, when the average monthly income is 5-6 mill, where 10 mill is considered good and where a lawyer earns 20 mill, if according to you 1 mill ST is the market rate.

My final note it's that it seems for a middle age man, your life experience is lacking further you not exactly playing with a full deck, and maybe that explains your many failures as you want to catch tuna but you go fish in a estuary.

Locamotive
10-18-20, 09:44
OK, I'll bite and engage in your mental masturbation, so let's examine each of your points.

Fact- you can't find any decent women willing to fuck you under 1 mill, I'll not dispute this, what you are claiming is that it's impossible for me to find decent women in the 300-400 k range. Firstly I never claimed that its was even probable that some tourist, or short term expat (1 yr working there) who doesn't speak the local language, is non Asian, doesn't engage in the local environment, is under a certain age (I know girls who publicly say they won't meet men over 50), and isn't above average in presentation, and who doesn't actively search for these bargain opportunities. I don't believe there is any ISG rule which states only reports that are realistic ie probable for a certain subsection of readers eg overweight balding Caucasian tourists should be allowed. If that was the case most of the reports say for example in Thailand about going in and then picking up some bargirl should be deleted, as our Indian readers will mostly likely experience rejection when attempting entry, so those posts are not realistic for Indians.

Speaking about Asians, as you mention you have asian friends who also experience failure like yourself, are you suggesting that Asians are some homogenous group, is it not likely that a japanese or korean would be treated differently than a local Vietnamese, as would other Asians like Indonesians who are dark skinned or Indians who have a internationally known bad reputations or Bangladeshi who are not as wealthy, or are you saying ALL Asians are treated equally by our fair Vietnamese maidens. So true my reports should be taken with a gain of salt if you think my report makes it clear that its probable rather than being its possible for me and if you fit into a narrow subsection of mongers. I take offense at the fact that you say its impossible and imply that I am liar...1260 women you are so full of shit! Probably some fat boy sitting in his mamas basement, or your the biggest stud that ever walked the face of the earth. Even if all your bullshit is true which I doubt you should be ashamed of yourself giving any girl 15 dollars for sex, that's insulting.

Ajashi
10-18-20, 17:58
OK I'm not that fluent in Viet but I can confirm your stories TOM. But please accept those others fishing and not spoiling our prices, keep up thanks.


OK, I'll bite and engage in your mental masturbation, so let's examine each of your points.

Fact- you can't find any decent women willing to fuck you under 1 mill, I'll not dispute this, what you are claiming is that it's impossible for me to find decent women in the 300-400 k range. Firstly I never claimed that its was even probable that some tourist, or short term expat (1 yr working there) who doesn't speak the local language, is non Asian, doesn't engage in the local environment, is under a certain age (I know girls who publicly say they won't meet men over 50), and isn't above average in presentation, and who doesn't actively search for these bargain opportunities. I don't believe there is any ISG rule which states only reports that are realistic ie probable for a certain subsection of readers eg overweight balding Caucasian tourists should be allowed. If that was the case most of the reports say for example in Thailand about going in and then picking up some bargirl should be deleted, as our Indian readers will mostly likely experience rejection when attempting entry, so those posts are not realistic for Indians.

Speaking about Asians, as you mention you have asian friends who also experience failure like yourself, are you suggesting that Asians are some homogenous group, is it not likely that a japanese or korean would be treated differently than a local Vietnamese, as would other Asians like Indonesians who are dark skinned or Indians who have a internationally known bad reputations or Bangladeshi who are not as wealthy, or are you saying ALL Asians are treated equally by our fair Vietnamese maidens. So true my reports should be taken with a gain of salt if you think my report makes it clear that its probable rather than being its possible for me and if you fit into a narrow subsection of mongers. I take offense at the fact that you say its impossible and imply that I am liar.

So you claim you lived there, work there and know a lot of women, and despite this experienced failure. Why is your unsubstantiated claims more valid than my claims which are backed by evidence of pictures and even a screenshot of my negotiations with a attractive women (picture provided) where her offer of 500 k was negotiated to 400 k.

So you lived there 1 yr, wow, you hang out with other expats, you go to Pasteur expat bars, you go to Spas in expat ghetto Q2, are you saying only Q1 will be where you are overcharged and not in expat ghettos like q2. You know a lot of women, what is a lot, I have fucked 1260 women all in the 200-500 k women over the last 4 yrs, I don't even know how many since I arrived here, so what is your sample size of women to say that offers of 500 k will be rejected by the 2 mill+ or so of fucking age women in Saigon. Also I would suggest that the women you know are all from the same small tainted pool used by other men such as yourself, so what's the likely chance they will give you a good price when some other chump sitting next to you will accept her overpriced pussy..

Member #4667
10-18-20, 19:35
1260 women you are so full of shit! Probably some fat boy sitting in his mamas basement, or your the biggest stud that ever walked the face of the earth. Even if all your bullshit is true which I doubt you should be ashamed of yourself giving any girl 15 dollars for sex, that's insulting.I do notice that you have not addressed even 1 of my points in which I referenced your lack of logic and questionable claims, I have actual evidence that I live here via pics and texts, and yet I'm the "fatboy in a basement", whereas you have claimed to live in vietnam for 1 yr and during that time there has not been even 1 report that can be verified by anyone that you have been here and that you are not the "fat bald sweaty 50 yr old in a basement".

So if a girls asks for 15 dollars for sex with me and I pay her, her "asking price", I should be ashamed? So maybe I should be ashamed for paying 30 k for pho as in the west its 10 usd. This just illustrates my earlier assessment of you. The only reason why you feel ashamed is because you know how repulsive you are and feel you need to pay her more for "danger money" to have sex with you, and that you are some beta cuck whose only experience with women is when you HAVE to pay them, as such you feel you need to "adequately" compensate her so as to ensure she will see you again as you can't see any non financial benefit in a female being with you.

OneUw84
10-27-20, 19:39
1260 women you are so full of shit! Probably some fat boy sitting in his mamas basement, or your the biggest stud that ever walked the face of the earth. Even if all your bullshit is true which I doubt you should be ashamed of yourself giving any girl 15 dollars for sex, that's insulting.Just because you can't, doesn't mean it isn't possible. I can confirm (Tom's) prices can go low if you know the language a bit, know the places and know how to negotiate. Please be nice to each other. We should share, and help each other, rather than call each other names. Where do you do your mongering where you experience these high prices (1, 2 million VND)?

D Cups
10-28-20, 13:43
1260 women you are so full of shit! Probably some fat boy sitting in his mamas basement, or your the biggest stud that ever walked the face of the earth. Even if all your bullshit is true which I doubt you should be ashamed of yourself giving any girl 15 dollars for sex, that's insulting.Are you related to Trainwreck / ED in the Philippine threads?

Morton219
10-30-20, 09:00
You can even find girls who accept under $15 per shot in districts 2-9. But most of them are in their late 20's.

Muzungufotsy
11-01-20, 10:40
I would never agree to business with a Viet hooker who insists on condom for BJ. This should be a golden rule for everybody. Specially now that they don't have customers.

Sammon
11-01-20, 13:25
I refer you back to you post about lack of comradeship in today's mongering environment, I welcome you to fish in the worlds pussy ocean but I have no interest or incentive to point you towards my own fishing hole. I'm sure as you said you are perfectly capable of finding your own girls and thus have no need of a point man just as I have never had someone be my own point man best of luck in your search. P.S. If I were to show you how and where I find these girl technically that would be me doing you a favour with such a unappreciative attitude one just has to wonder.

As this is a photo gallery here is one I fucked 2 weeks ago unfortunately she has taken some time off 26 yr old enhanced tits 10 ish usd pretty enthusiastic fuck.Have you ever noticed in your pictures you show girls only. You never showed your picture with them with your face blurred. Price point is moot. Who really knows how much you paid if you indeed had sex with these girls. Girls pictured are plenty at WWW.

Pute Nut
11-01-20, 14:24
Have you ever noticed in your pictures you show girls only. You never showed your picture with them with your face blurred. Price point is moot. Who really knows how much you paid if you indeed had sex with these girls. Girls pictured are plenty at WWW.I do agree with Salmon, these questionable posts are are counterproductive and just a waste of time. There's plenty free SW porn out there.

Member #4667
11-01-20, 23:14
Have you ever noticed in your pictures you show girls only. You never showed your picture with them with your face blurred. Price point is moot. Who really knows how much you paid if you indeed had sex with these girls. Girls pictured are plenty at WWW.
I do agree with Salmon, these questionable posts are are counterproductive and just a waste of time. There's plenty free SW porn out there.Haha you guys are hilarious, I believe this is a Photo Gallery for Vietnam, I question how productive your posts are when it is unaccompanied by pictures ie Photo gallery especially when you are not in Vietnam nor are you ever likely / ever been to.

So If I did post pics of me and face blurred, then do what next I need to be holding a piece of paper with TomMAffolter written on that before I am to be believed. Here is some news for you, I don't get my fucks cheaper or do I find more girls if some septuagenarian with vinegar flavored marshmallow dick believes me or not. If you believe its a waste of time them don't read it and don't come to the thread where you have little or zero relevance. I take pictures that are relevant and have value to me ie I want to remember and keep track of these girls, not to prove myself to a bunch of mongerers. If there are guys who are competent and can find similar girls at those price points, who then want to contact me to exchange contacts, well that's win win for me, for the rest you cry fake news well that's fine to more pussy for me.

Sammon, I do remember you posting a picture on the Cebu thread, the girl was clothed and you were not include with your face blurred, not even with a price so we can know how much you paid for such a "manly" lady, why do you not follow your own standards on photo posting?


I would never agree to business with a Viet hooker who insists on condom for BJ. This should be a golden rule for everybody. Specially now that they don't have customers.Another great post of what you "would" do, but I have yet to see a post anywhere of what you have actually done (with pics) would be nice, I do recall you boasting about hot 200 k FL via pm.

This cutie I fucked prob 6 months ago under 20 usd 21 yrs with perky breasts.

Member #4667
11-01-20, 23:27
Have you ever noticed in your pictures you show girls only. You never showed your picture with them with your face blurred. Price point is moot. Who really knows how much you paid if you indeed had sex with these girls. Girls pictured are plenty at WWW.Forgot to mention seems a bit of a 180 going from my posts being believable that you ask me to be your point man, and when I refused as I have no interest hanging out with old men. Now my posts are so unbelievable due to the fact I don't include myself in them (such a crime against the photo posting standards), Ill be sure to mention these new standards to Westcoast1, Wicked Roger, Socker, Mdemde and all the many other photo posters out there. Eat sour grapes much?

Rambo95
11-02-20, 04:29
Girl is really pretty nice sexy beautiful.


Busty 26 yr old good attitude though insist on condom for BJ everything else was good priced under 15 usd.

StudBucket
11-02-20, 07:39
Well I do believe it is you in the pictures, and thank you Tom for the great pics and pricing info. Most of the photos have your hands in them fondling the girls and there would be no reason to post phony photos. For what reason would somebody go to the extent?? For those of us who have not been to Vietnam and planning on going when it opens, this is very insightful. Keep posting and don't listen to the silly haters.

Pute Nut
11-02-20, 13:46
some septuagenarian with vinegar flavored marshmallow dickYou claim to know a lot about the taste and texture of old men's penises, and I'm in fact a little bit more inclined to believe your empiric experience in that field.

I rest my case and just wait until you will be called. BTW, if you paid in VND instead of USD, you might just get even better bargains.

Member #4667
11-02-20, 14:56
You claim to know a lot about the taste and texture of old men's penises, and I'm in fact a little bit more inclined to believe your empiric experience in that field.

I rest my case and just wait until you will be called. BTW, if you paid in VND instead of USD, you might just get even better bargains.Ohhh do you mean when I say for example "a tad over 10 usd" I actually mean $12.79 c because I paid in USD and not that I paid in VND and did a off the cuff conversion for some of our senile members. Seems you fall in that category since you failed that bit of logic.

I can look at a piece of turd, and not need to have empirical experience to know that it would be smelly and squishy, again a bit of commonsense would be required.

Again thank you for your valuable contribution to a mongering site where it is written in the FAQ that the aim "is to facilitate the exchange of information for men to find sex with women".

Here is another one of your masterpieces to drive forward this aim.


At least the "quality" of AC food has remained pretty constant, although the conveniently located Mr Frosty on Fields was changed into a money padala shop. 15 years ago they served a decent fish & chips for 80 pesos.Wow what a valuable piece of actionable intel, price of fish and chips from 15 yrs ago in AC.

Again thank you, for being a valued member and I wish there was more of you.

In the mean time here is my little contribution, slim tattooed girl 27 yrs, some baby damage on the stomach and small breast so priced at under 10 usd.

Quagmire1974
11-03-20, 07:31
I echo the comment made by StudBucket:


Well I do believe it is you in the pictures, and thank you Tom for the great pics and pricing info. Most of the photos have your hands in them fondling the girls and there would be no reason to post phony photos. For what reason would somebody go to the extent?? For those of us who have not been to Vietnam and planning on going when it opens, this is very insightful. Keep posting and don't listen to the silly haters.Keep posting your pictures, Tom. As someone who is seriously considering retiring to Vietnam in a few years (and has actually been to Ho Chi Minh City and Hanoi), your pictures are a great example of what can be had in the country. I just can't understand why grown men are having temper tantrums and hurling insults because you won't reveal where you're finding your girls. You're a miner, and you found a vein of ore loaded with gold. Why in hell would you tell other miners where to find it?

Pute Nut
11-03-20, 15:47
I can look at a piece of turd, and not need to have empirical experience You are correct here, no empirical experience is necessary when you copy. I just wanted to expose your neurotic traits a bit. Thank you for responding so well!

When it comes to your use of, for example, "marshmallow dicks" and "septuagenarian" you have merely copied that from entertaining, original posters on the Board such as CM.

Good luck with your future posts and your target audience of seniles. Maybe Sleepy Joe could use a cheap Viet Ho.

RainmanSahut
11-04-20, 10:34
Hello mates,

Either prices have dropped drastically or I never knew where to monger myself after seeing so many recent pictures and prices.

I have a few years of mongering in the Hanoi area with at least 1 year total of feet on the ground.

I have never found the great deals mentioned by Mutant Chicken or TomMaffolter in my travels.

Most of my experiences have been originally from wechat, which has wanned then to LINE, which last year was very easy to use as a hook up, but, never at such low prices. Many beautiful girls, most asking 2,000,000 vnd or more. Yes, the internet sex sites Gaigoi (call girl) kienuviet, kynu, thiendiam, gailamtien, girlchanh to name a few offer cheap sex realistically Starting as low 500,000 vnd For ST plus the hotel. There are girls posting with lower prices but, they are virtually impossible to find and meet.

Just to share, I just started receiving messages from a Bar / Coffee called Shop DONKIHOTE'S girls. DONKIHOTE BAR HA NOI. Address: 1xx Phan KE BINH, BA Dinh district. The bar is listed on facebook and it appears to be a KTV / Brothel. There is a wide selection of beautiful girls with rooms available at the location. I have no idea of price and service but wanted to share with the guys lucky enough to be in Hanoi now. It certainly looks like a place to visit once, twice or more. My girl friend says ok, as long as I come back to her.

As for me, have been wanting to return to Hanoi for almost 1 year, but, no tourist visas available for Me. Business visa travel is back open, if, you can get a registered business sponsor. That being a Vietnamese Business with a government issued business license.

Anyways, good luck.

Yes, I am jealous.

Have a drink for me and continue to share your stories.

Rainman.

Member #4667
11-05-20, 01:03
Hello mates,

I never knew where to monger myself after seeing so many recent pictures and prices.

I have a few years of mongering in the Hanoi area with at least 1 year total of feet on the ground.

There are girls posting with lower prices but, they are virtually impossible to find and meet.

Just to share, I just started receiving messages from a Bar / Coffee called Shop DONKIHOTE'S girls. DONKIHOTE BAR HA NOI. Address: 1xx Phan KE BINH, BA Dinh district. The bar is listed on facebook and it appears to be a KTV / Brothel. There is a wide selection of beautiful girls with rooms available at the location. I have no idea of price and service but wanted to share with the guys lucky enough to be in Hanoi now. It certainly looks like a place to visit once, twice or more. My girl friend says ok, as long as I come back to her..Most guys don't know where to monger, and living there 1 yr has significant value, I have been here (this will be my) 14th year. These girls you say are impossible to meet, that's because you don't know the password hahah, plus they have their own strict condition of who they will meet, if you dot fit they will just ignore.

Just as a example from your past posts you always made out that you are quite knowledgeable about things Vietnam related.


Yes, A Picture is worth a thousand words!

Thank You Line!

You never failed Me!

Good hunting my friends!

Rainman.But, truth is LINE is for newbs, and its full of scammers and any genuine FL targets foreigners with associated prices. Next is your DONKIHOTE'S, yes its a bar / KTV but its definitely NOT a brothel. Its a Korean themed bar targeting Korean tourists and expats. If you have been to any of these Korean / Japanese themed places you would know how they operate, and its definitely not a point and click brothel. Sure depending on the girl, depending how much you have spent, time and money wise, you can convince a girl to sleep with you, but to call it a brothel is misleading, this lack of understanding how things work in Vietnam, is why when guys say they have been here 1 yr etc I roll my eyes.

RainmanSahut
11-05-20, 02:32
Reply.

I take exception to both premises by Tom.

Yes, I am amazed at his girls and prices. You are the only one with the secret handshake. I say BS.

Your statement about LINE is absolutely wrong. I've met many many girls using Line and not 1 was a scammer. All provided P4P, yes prices higher, but, quality higher than your in harem.

No, I have not been to Donkihote, but, I have been to several KTVs in Hanoi and around Asia, BTW, sex is available most of the time, but, the time and price involved is not worth it.

Tom, Hanoi is not my only stop in the world. Yes it is my favorite, but my job sent me circling the world on a monthly basis, so, you are not the only soldier out there.

Keep sending your pictures, We all enjoy, but, better share your contact for the other brothers.

Rainman.

Member #4667
11-06-20, 02:02
Reply.

I take exception to both premises by Tom.

Yes, I am amazed at his girls and prices. You are the only one with the secret handshake. I say BS.

Your statement about LINE is absolutely wrong. I've met many many girls using Line and not 1 was a scammer. All provided P4P, yes prices higher, but, quality higher than your in harem.

No, I have not been to Donkihote, but, I have been to several KTVs in Hanoi and around Asia, BTW, sex is available most of the time, but, the time and price involved is not worth it.

Tom, Hanoi is not my only stop in the world. Yes it is my favorite, but my job sent me circling the world on a monthly basis, so, you are not the only soldier out there..Dear Sir, yes there were some elements, in my last post, that could be called BS, actually I was jesting about the password, not secret handshake, I would have though the "hahah" after would have indicated this. But its true especially in the past, some girls will ask for a password or who recommended her number etc. But its true there are certain processes and steps that must be done to meet these girls. I don't know who is doing the more BS, I remember you postings "newbies guide", in it you wrote.


Hello VietNam!

I am going try and tell you all you need to know to monger Happily in Hanoi based upon my experiences.

Find girl you like (prices quoted), best to look at most recent dates, that helps find most active girls, text her message from your phone of what you want. You need to translate into Vietnamese, use google translate. IE. 1 shot? Meet? Etc. The price quoted is normally for 40 minutes 1 shot, some allow 2 shots within that time. All has been honest to my knowledge. None will work without condom for FS. My experience, girl in picture is same girl with photo shop. Most only speak Vietnamese.

Get membership. Share reports.This I understand you have actually experienced, and have first hand knowledge of this method of mongering, so why are you saying that finding these girls is impossible, let alone meeting them. Seems to me some one is BS'ing.

Maybe you and I have a different definition of a scam, but to me when a girl or equivalent girl is available to a local for 20 usd, and she then goes onto LINE and offers herself at 200.

Usd, or if she posts up pictures that are heavily photocopied to the point where she doesn't even resemble the picture that is a scam. What has been commonly reported is that LINE WL commonly use a bait and switch tactic. Sure you can say that's not a scam as you as the purchaser can refuse, so I concede that point. Lastly you say you have used LINE many times and have never been scammed, I can also say for example I have had unprotected sex many time and never picked up a STD, so now that means its safe to have unprotected sex? Sir its only a question of your sample size, before you will meet a scammer on LINE.

As to your better quality on LINE, do you mean the pictures you posted on the picture gallery of those 2 40 yr+ women? Which I can only guess to be referenced in this post? I can tell you for a fact, these type of women are available to local men for 250-300 K for 2 shots. How many shot did you have with her LT, 3-4? Well for a local that would have cost him 500-600 k, not the 1. 5 m bargained from 2 m. Many guys would call it a scam if you bought a coconut for 50 k, when around the corner they were selling them for 10 k.




Linh was like most every other girl, agreed to meet at hotel for LT 1,500,000 vnd. Started at 2,000,000 and left with 2,000,000 after great service and good GFE. Most everything was offered. Not the most beautiful figure, but, she tried to make up with a very nice and tight pussy and enthusiasm that never stopped. She certainly made me happy happy. I told her that she needed to learn how to do a prostate massage so she could find many customers. She was most interested to learn. She had to leave early next morning as her mother and child were coming to Hanoi for a few days visit. She gave me her number and begged to stay in touch and a repeat.

Anyways, Both girls treated me great. I gave each 1,500,000 vnd. Lan the next few days gave her 1,000,000 vnd for each day.

Yes, I had Happy endings.

Lan and Linh are no longer friends.

Rainman.Maybe you mean the one that was offering herself for 200 USd, who supposedly was national TKD champion, personally I couldn't see much so I can't say how much quality she is, I post only my 15-20 usd fucks, but I can definitely say she isn't 10 X better than those girls. This girl is only 20 usd she 22 yrs perky breasts and pretty face, I so seriously question your claims of higher quality. P.S. Your claim has as much validity as me saying for 100,000 usd I can have a Victoria Secrets model type of girl. Paying higher prices you expect higher quality, but paying 10 X more, just get a 7 rather than a 6. 5?

Finally I have never said you can't get girls at KTV or Bia Om, I'm saying that Donkihote and similar K / J bars are NOT brothels. Brothels are places you go in point and pick a girl then you simply go and have sex. Girls cannot refuse or give excuses requiring you to drink up a bar tab, or tell you she cannot as she lives at home etc etc.

Member #4667
11-06-20, 02:08
Keep sending your pictures, We all enjoy, but, better share your contact for the other brothers.

Rainman.No need for me to share my contacts when there are experts like you around.

Here is another lower quality 21 yr old for around 30 usd.

TConor
11-17-20, 20:15
Here is one for busty shaved pussy lovers I fucks awhile ago was 20 usd now 25 usd pretty face good attitude loud moaner.Don't you think? All BS.

Didier5810
11-20-20, 21:40
Couldn't help myself so much cheap hot pussy so even though today my rest day went and met this 19 yr old hottie clear fair skin firm breasts and tight pussy 25 usd.Woh! She is anatomic bomb! You are a lucky guy.

Sypher
11-21-20, 08:01
Todays fuck, she 27 yr old come dressed in ao dai stripped naked have sexy secret underneath, satisfy fantasy fuck vn school teacher, perky ass and tits cost 8 usd.Where did you find $8 FS?

ABoneDaddy
11-25-20, 20:11
This was one of my dud fucks pics looked good turn up at the door acceptable looks for 15 usd but when naked stretch marks and boobs bit saggy so hard to cum but not really possible to reject if she naked though her attitude was friendly and accommodative. I used to get duds 5/10 times now with more experience (1292 fucks) better methodology and due diligence my dud rate is 1/10 haha.Even your duds look worth it to me. As long as attitude is good. Wish you luck.

Kafka
11-26-20, 23:47
I was in Vietnam in the late '80's I thought they gave much better head than anything that I got in Thailand.


Why need go Thailand when you can fuck a Thai girl in Vietnam haha or more correctly a Thai minority hilltribes girl for 15 usd. She 22 though honestly she looked 25-26 breast small not firm but very enthusiastic and accommodative when frenching and deepthroating and DATY also loud moaner.

P.S. Traditional dress pic not her but to illustrate what is a Viet Thai person.

KetoAndKettle
12-01-20, 18:03
Todays 20 usd fuck 22 yrs slim perky breasts tasty pussy nice attitude.That is a tongue-able rear if I've ever seen one. (yep, I'm one of those risk takers).

Stykler
12-02-20, 05:32
Hey TomMAffolter you are obviously a monger of prodigious talents, with a libido to match the whole sum of ISG posters. As a result of your science given talent, those of us who use bandwith to look at your images are entitled to ask:

1. Have you fucked each and every lady whom you have posted an image of here?

2. Did you take the vast majority of the photos you have posted?

3. Are any of these photos lifted from somewhere else?

4. Is there any context around your "encounters" with these woman that would at least provide some credibility to your posts?

That's enough of the questions from me, I'm sure others will add their own. We look forward to your responses to our questions.

Member #4667
12-02-20, 06:45
Hey TomMAffolter you are obviously a monger of prodigious talents, with a libido to match the whole sum of ISG posters. As a result of your science given talent, those of us who use bandwith to look at your images are entitled to ask:

1. Have you fucked each and every lady whom you have posted an image of here?

2. Did you take the vast majority of the photos you have posted?

3. Are any of these photos lifted from somewhere else?.Thank you for your questions (sarcasm), but can I ask you why do you think you are entitled to anything. This is a public photo gallery no one forced you to come and view it, you were not required to pay any admission fees. If you feel that I'm full of BS then put me on ignore list, if you think this is fake news then no need to come here and read.

To answer you questions.

1. yes I have fucked everyone of the girls posted, at a cost of 15-20 usd are you suggesting you wouldn't be able to afford that and so you question whether I can fuck 4-5 girls a week?

2 yes I took the vast majority of those pics, as I tell the girls or they ask me to write reviews of them on Vietnamese language dark web monger sites the girls sometimes send me their pics so they can control what is uploaded.

3. see above.

4 context? You mean I need to describe how I met them? Is that part of the posting rules? Again if you feel that it is incredulous that I and the million other locals are fucking these girls then I feel sorry for you. I spent a lot of my own time and money developing my technique to discovering these gems I don't want guys who are happy to pay 120 aud for a HJ from a Chinese grandmother to come and start overpaying as they don't know how to bargain or refuse to walk away when the girl demands 50 usd as its still cheaper than back home.

Godfather2018
12-02-20, 06:57
Still feeling hungry and in the same area I contact this girl as her zalo pic looked tasty and some good feedback However this one 15 usd 20 yrs old enter the room not smiling, looked tired or unhappy in hindsight I should have not proceeded. She didn't wear any makeup looked fatter than zalo pics and had a small belly, then when on bed she was lazy, quick BJ then again another dead fish, felt like I was raping a sleeping girl hahah, definitely not my thing, so yes even I get duds.May be she was overworked. But always go for a smiling and active girl. Will boost your mood.

Stykler
12-04-20, 03:55
This thread and its lack of reports reminds me how important my job is as it seems I'm the only one keeping the vn mongering economy afloat Hey TomMAffolter if you are searching for a reason this forum / thread is as barren as my head of hair, look in the mirror.

Member #4667
12-04-20, 04:05
Hey TomMAffolter if you are searching for a reason this forum / thread is as barren as my head of hair, look in the mirror.So what you mean is that its my fault that losers can't find their own fucks and so have nothing to post?

Morton219
12-04-20, 10:52
The second girl 21 yr though already had kid so boobs a bit saggy but very cute and nice trimmed tasty pussy also horny and vocal when fucking worth the 17 usd.The prices for some girls seem a bit low. I don't mind paying $25 for some of the girls you post here.

BonMonger
12-04-20, 11:21
This thread and its lack of reports reminds me how important my job is as it seems I'm the only one keeping the vn mongering economy afloat and the girls well fed and belly full considering the.

Lack of foreign investment from Singapore, Australia etc like in the past where mongers would pay 2 mill for a saggy breasted 30 yr old because they didn't want to haggle as they thought it "transactionalized" like some how the lady in question would forget she was forced to fuck a obese 70 yr old but was instead fucking him due to love or physical attraction because he didn't want to quibble over 20-50 bucks. This girl is 19 yr small breasted but fair and pretty with good attitude and service.You seems doing great work in regard with VN mongering economy flow. When flights open hope to see you and myself being in biz, won't ask any questions but hope you can supply good stuffs at a rate which suits you. How much you pay to her is purely your biz and how much you charge me as well. Just get a week going for me with new gals If you don't interested leave it too as it's purely biz proposal. No harm taken.

Member #4667
12-04-20, 12:21
The prices for some girls seem a bit low. I don't mind paying $25 for some of the girls you post here.
You can even find girls who accept under $15 per shot in districts 2-9. But most of them are in their late 20's.I'm sure you not the only one who wouldn't mind, paying $25, but this is the photo gallery so care to share pics of these sub $15 women you referred to or is this just in the theoretical? No need to provide details how to meet and find just pics and prices paid will suffice.

Muzungufotsy
12-04-20, 13:07
17$ for a girl with saggy tits is already too much I pay for perfect body not average one and anybody who pretends to pay 8 $ for sex with a girl in HCM is a liar. That's the price for a BBBJ at a few local places that I personally know.

Member #4667
12-04-20, 17:48
17$ for a girl with saggy tits is already too much I pay for perfect body not average one and anybody who pretends to pay 8 $ for sex with a girl in HCM is a liar. That's the price for a BBBJ at a few local places that I personally know.Hahah that great standards I wish more guys were as careful with their money as you. Talking of liars I have yet to see one report from you, let alone any pics to substantiate your claims of particular tastes, but yet I see you are bottom feeding in Africa, and from the pics on the various photo galleries, guys there don't really get "perfect bodies". I'm sorry I am "overpaying" according to your standards, but its odd that even so you contacted me 5 x asking where I find my girls even when I ignored you.

Rambo95
12-05-20, 07:46
She is really pretty cute and sexy nice selection tom the casanova.


Here is a past fuck she is 20 yrs old and according to mr stykler due to me paying 25 usd to eat and fuck her tasty pussy this action prevents him and men like him from finding girls to fuck and post pics here.

Muzungufotsy
12-05-20, 10:51
5 times only? Are you sure it wasn't 10? LOL I have more important things to do than posting online pics on this board pretending they are mine pretending they are almost free pretending they are all great fuck. Unlike you I m not racist I go on all continents and I respect men who are older than me. I have been to many countries shagging beautiful girls which I m happy to share with real guys who can meet in real life and who can answer a simple PM because they are grown up educated men.

Member #4667
12-05-20, 19:13
5 times only? Are you sure it wasn't 10? LOL I have more important things to do than posting online pics on this board pretending they are mine pretending they are almost free pretending they are all great fuck. Unlike you I m not racist I go on all continents and I respect men who are older than me. I have been to many countries shagging beautiful girls which I m happy to share with real guys who can meet in real life and who can answer a simple PM because they are grown up educated men.Sorry I must have mistaken you with someone else, maybe it was your old nick "Simplythebest" but I took the liberty to look at a few of your posts to see what a great contributor you are.

P.S. Being the educated man you are its surprising that you couldn't figure out that I was "pretending" until after you contacted me 5 x, then and only then "called" me out after I didn't want anything to do with you.


Best you hit the ignore button. He's been the resident Africa forum troll for a long time. Contributed exactly zero. Knows it all. From the www.

Neddy.

Dont feed the pet. lol.Here you are being called the resident troll in the Madagascar thread.


Fully agree. Impossible not to find a girl in mada on your own even if you are blind. Besides the guy says he speaks French so wtf? Some people are lazy indeed.Here is a example of you being the troll that you are.


Massage places are a ripoff IMHO. Overpriced and lousy service. I don't care if she s white or black price is the same and certainly not 100 k for ST. Make sure pussy is still pink though.Another great contribution.


I ask you a question: have you ever gone to Luanda? I believe not, otherwise you wouldn't have scrutinized all this.Here is a member asking if you have ever been to a place you have commented on like you are the local expert.


Don't understand this kind of behaviour. Why guys pay for nothing? What are you afraid of seriously? 500 k for a hot toc is already too much so she s trying for more why not? Then you say no and you leave period. Why pay for no service? If you go to a restaurant and you don't eat you pay too?Is this a example of you sharing with "real" guys.


Any pics / contacts of the nice ones?Here is asking for pics / contacts when you are too busy to post pics yourself.


Just show us the pics at least.
You should say newbie rip off instead. Quality and service is way down since Western guys started overpaying. Normal price for a BJ is 200 in HCM. You can get FS for 400 easily. Just have to be a less lazy than most guys who come here and pay without thinking. Why mentioning security? This is Vietnam not Africa.Here again acting all smug and superior when your posts have been zero contribution, not even one pic, let alone actionable intel.

So I ask you have your even been to Vietnam?

Member #4667
12-05-20, 19:20
5 times only? Are you sure it wasn't 10? LOL I have more important things to do than posting online pics on this board pretending they are mine pretending they are almost free pretending they are all great fuck. Unlike you I m not racist I go on all continents and I respect men who are older than me. I have been to many countries shagging beautiful girls which I m happy to share with real guys who can meet in real life and who can answer a simple PM because they are grown up educated men.
I just did a quick check of your posts. In almost every one you are attacking and berating someone, trying to start arguments. In the rest you are asking for pics. Not a single trip report. All you are is a miserable troll and you have been called out for it in other forums. So you can fuck off.Here is someone else calling you out as a impotent basement dwelling troll, who has never left his basement.

I respect older men IF they have done things that are worthy of respect, if you just a fat balding loser who goes around leeching, then you are just another loser who happens to be older than me, so why should I respect that kind of person, and hence that's why I didn't answer a simple PM.

SinfullyKorean
12-06-20, 09:49
Past accommodative fuck 22 yr old was 10 usd now 15 usd slim small tits tight pussy nice moaner and deep BBBJ.Thanks for the updates, Tom! Out of curiosity, how much would you say one needs to hobby like you in VN (monthly)? Thanks!

Locamotive
12-06-20, 19:49
Mr. Tom,

You are sleeping with the most beautiful Asian women I have ever seen. I am not sure it is even true but I am sure that many of us have Vietnam Airlines on speeddial now!

Well done!Do not fall for this.

Goferring
12-09-20, 03:00
Do not fall for this.Ok, I'm lost here. Why is everyone calling BS on Tom?

I'm not a regular VND visitor so can't vouch for real time prices beyond the tourist and expat ghettos. Yes, these are many times the prices he has listed but 5 minutes online and I found 100's of girls quoting 250 to 400 k ST. Why is it such a stretch that a long term, Vietnamese speaking resident can score these types of prices. The only reason I have seen here is "I have to pay 2 million in District 1. ".

What am I missing?

Enjoy. G.

Vip6682
12-09-20, 03:53
Is it just me or do Vietnamese and some women from the Philippines share a resemblance to each other in facial features?

IHeartIpa
12-09-20, 04:55
Ok, I'm lost here. Why is everyone calling BS on Tom?

I'm not a regular VND visitor so can't vouch for real time prices beyond the tourist and expat ghettos. Yes, these are many times the prices he has listed but 5 minutes online and I found 100's of girls quoting 250 to 400 k ST. Why is it such a stretch that a long term, Vietnamese speaking resident can score these types of prices. The only reason I have seen here is "I have to pay 2 million in District 1. ".

What am I missing?

Enjoy. G.Agree. In Cambodia and Thailand you can pay $30 usd for a decent looking girl idk why you couldn't find in Vietnam. Especially if you're not picky (just no fatties I guess) it shouldn't be hard to do once you get to know some agents / pimps.

Rambo95
12-09-20, 07:02
Great choice pretty sexy beauty.


This girl quite pretty but a bit chubby was 30usd but drop price to 25usd quite horny after licking her pussy 20 yrs old.

Offshore Swell
12-10-20, 07:43
Another recent past fuck 27 yrs can DFK DATY nice tits 15 usd.No issue with the pics, love them!. It does kind of beg the question though, of what do you do with all that money you saved? Were you saving up for bathroom renovations? Change the wallpaper?, Get an enema?.

The mind boggles at the possibillities.

Muzungufotsy
12-16-20, 12:22
Ok, I'm lost here. Why is everyone calling BS on Tom?

I'm not a regular VND visitor so can't vouch for real time prices beyond the tourist and expat ghettos. Yes, these are many times the prices he has listed but 5 minutes online and I found 100's of girls quoting 250 to 400 k ST. Why is it such a stretch that a long term, Vietnamese speaking resident can score these types of prices. The only reason I have seen here is "I have to pay 2 million in District 1. ".

What am I missing?

Enjoy. G.Well he got banned. That says it all.

Locamotive
12-17-20, 22:07
Agree. In Cambodia and Thailand you can pay $30 usd for a decent looking girl idk why you couldn't find in Vietnam. Especially if you're not picky (just no fatties I guess) it shouldn't be hard to do once you get to know some agents / pimps.Vietnam is not Cambodia or Thailand. I lived in Vietnam and its not easy as you would think. If you have the time you can get a GFE with a little work. Its certainly not though like Thailand or Philippines. When I had a few days off sometimes ID just go to other places for quick easier and cheaper fun. Don't get me wrong Vietnamese girls are great. But easy and cheap they are not.

Breadman
12-04-21, 18:54
I've been watching several newspapers on when countries will reopen. Now the article below has a little blurb that just caught my attention:

The city will convert certain hotels into quarantine centers for people arriving in Vietnam and place those coming into close contact with Covid cases in facilities responsible for handling cases with no symptoms.

This really sounds like a money grab to me. Its already been shown in Thailand's incoming tourist numbers that the testing before flights is keeping covid from entering into a country from the airlines. They aren't lining up hospitals to quarantine the locals who can't afford the fee's, this is only for the tourists.

https://english.thesaigontimes.vn/hcmc-ready-to-welcome-back-intl-tourists/