Guadalajara

[WorldWideScout]

BTW forgot to mention! Danny's tried to tell me the price was $450. But as soon as I mentioned the $350 price she concurred and said ok that's a the promotion. Promotion, that's always been the price.

ALSO, an SW today tried to charge me $270. It's always been $250, don't let them get you with fake inflated prices. Stand your ground nicely and confidently on the regular price. We can't allow inflation especially since the peso seems a bit stronger lately.

[WolfHQ]

and I saw one insanely fat girl and one chubby young one.Sorry a newb here, just reading older posts for my next vacation and couldn't stop laughing at this for some reason. "One chubby young one" - holy shit that is funny.

[GetBusyLiving]

I have been to GDL many times and it's a great place with beautiful women. Great place to look is Anumex com in the Amor and Amistad section.

Any other suggestions?

[Simon Wagstaff]

I have been to GDL many times and it's a great place with beautiful women. Great place to look is Anumex com in the Amor why Amistad section. Any other suggestions?With the Guadalajara back page ads? Lots of nice ones there as well. Be nice to know if they are real.

[GetBusyLiving]

With the Guadalajara back page ads? Lots of nice ones there as well. Be nice to know if they are real.Never tried BP in Guadalajara. I figured that going with local publication is better, just my opinion and does not mean it will not be OK. Give it a shot and let us know.

Have you guys noticed that hotels are increasing security and watching / questioning girls coming in?

[Ramstains]

I visited GDL last year. It was lovely place. I think it has great looking women ever. I did not visit any sex place but I have been to few strip clubs in GDL as well as PV. Loved the time I spent there. Will be visiting again maybe next year. Looking forward to taking the game it to next level.

[El Mojado]

Hey everyone! I'm back to Monger! Oh it's been too long since I've eaten wonderful Mexican food and enjoyed the company of wonderful Mexicanas. So far the trip has been great and I've got a month left before I have to return to the chica desert that is the USA (at least for me).

So getting down to the nitty gritty. My favorite place is Dany's. I knew the owner when she worked at Geisha's (and she does go by the name Dany). I called the number a few weeks before my trip and it's still correct. I don't think I'm allowed to post it but I will post the address and the cross streets to find it. It's not difficult and there's a good vegetarian restaurant across the street plus some other good places. I will post later about my favorite place to get home made amazing tamales that used to be $10 pesos. They probably went up a little, but trust me you have one of those you'll really want to go back there.

Dany's is located on Avenida de La Paz in the section where it has two large lanes divided by a center strip. The address is 1561 Avenida La Paz and the closest cross street is Belgica. That's a small street. On the same side as Dany's is a nice little restaurant on the corner of La Paz and Belgica You can get comida tipica / comida corrida lunches there and it's not bad, prices were good. I'll report back on what it is like. Something extra about Dany's, it has an electric door garage if you happen to be renting or driving a car. You can park there safely while you monger and not worry about getting a parking ticket or driving in circles to find a parking space. It tends to get used most around 2 pm to 4 pm when Mexican businessmen and workers have their lunch break When I have been driving here I've found it very useful.

As Worldwidetraveler mentioned, the showers are great. The showers and rooms were brand new when they opened a few years ago. I took some pics of the rooms back then and I'll try to take some again this trip to post so you can see what they currently look like. The thing I liked best was their electrical set up. They have outlets with 3 plugs, a ground plug! Very rare in Mexico but important if you don't want to short out anything you want to plug in. I actually do shave at Dany's using a plug in electric shaver and really enjoy using their showers and all the hot water you can handle. Hot water is a luxury in Mexico! (and in general!) You don't know how many cold showers I've had to take in Mexico and they weren't by choice while waiting to bang a hot chica!

The DIA de LOS Muertos statues were still up on Ave Chapultepek last I saw, very cool. I hope to get pictures. My camera batteries were dead when I last walked through there but I will try today on my way to Dany's.

And I will verify pricing. I have an old hand out flyer that says mananeros are $250 pesos between 10 am and 2 pm, promotion. Basically 20 minutes time, one pop. No time for a massage just get in there and get going, though they will let you shower before and after, just shower quickly if there are a lot of clients in the lobby (they need the rooms If there aren't many clients then you can enjoy a nicer, longer shower. The standard price on the flyer is $350 for half an hour, one pop. $450 is what I used to get for 45 minutes and two pops. It was 600 for one full hour, two pops or they have a two chica promotion at that price but I never got it. I think they are only there with you maximum 45 minutes and you get two pops. I might have to try it once to see what it's like.

Let's hope Dany's has held up over time! I'm sure most, if not all, the chicas I knew from two years ago are gone. I will get names and hopefully be able to describe them well enough here so you know who is working there right now and you can get a good idea who to ask for, although Dany is good about keeping the nicer gals around. The ones who treat you like a king, even if they are not runway models like at are are are-A-P- (won't let me write the word here) and such. But I'll go with better treatment and good prices over good looks and poor performance anytime. I've gained a bit of weight myself from not being able to come out here and Monger so I'm not going to judge them harshly on that. More cushin for the pushing!

OK El Mojado out and will report back hopefully this evening!

[Hola Mundo]

Hey El Mojado.

I am looking forward to your reports. I will arrive day before Thanksgiving for a week, and this will be the first time.


Hey everyone! I'm back to Monger! Oh it's been too long since I've eaten wonderful Mexican food and enjoyed the company of wonderful Mexicanas. So far the trip has been great and I've got a month left before I have to return to the chica desert that is the USA (at least for me).

OK El Mojado out and will report back hopefully this evening!

[Sun08]

Anyone knows what the current prices are in some of the esteticas, please post here. In particular, estetica Cristopher, Luigi, Jet Set, Eduar's, Elegance and Select. I am trying to update the list of some of the places including their prices and post here. I may visit 2 or 3 of them myself.

Cheers

[Moby Dav]

Anyone knows what the current prices are in some of the esteticas, please post here. In particular, estetica Cristopher, Luigi, Jet Set, Eduar's, Elegance and Select. I am trying to update the list of some of the places including their prices and post here. I may visit 2 or 3 of them myself.

CheersI was at Jet Set a couple of months ago. Their price was 1,300 MXN. I used to enjoy this place, but the service and girl quality last time was no better than Danys (although they had a bigger selection) where the price is 350 MXN.

[El Mojado]

Hey All!

I have been back to Danys after 2 years not being here in Mexico. The place is as clean as it has ever been! And yes, wonderful, HOT showers with plenty of water. Dany is in the process of constructing a 'penthouse' room on the roof. It is going to be small but will include air conditioning! That's something I've never heard at any of the other esteticas but hey, that is awesome. In summer when I have been here the cieling fans work fine but after having an hour long session with the chica it is rather hot and a cold shower is called for. With AC, though. That will be one amazing session! It is still being built but it will be done long before the hot weather shows up. Dany mentioned that she sometimes runs out of room although she has enough ladies to tend to the clients.

I have gotten to know some of the new ladies. One is Celeste, a dark haired beauty who has sensually soft brown skin and a very nice rear which gives you a nice view while in doggy style mode! I went with her for $450 pesos for 45 minutes, and it was quite nice as my first return to the estetica. You can do $350 for half an hour. I had forgotten that it's only 1 pop with the $450 price, but I got a nice massage and was able to enjoy the shower afterwards. Celeste is a little on what some would say the heavier side but by no means is she out of shape! She showed her prowess riding me like a mechanical bull for a while at the beginning, then by the time we went doggy style it was all I could do not to explode! Anyway, lets just say she's quite a capable chica! She doesn't speak English unfortunately, but does understand some.

Now on to the second and even better gal for me. Although I paid for a full hour and having the full hour was much better for me. I went with Mariana. She's a short, thin 'spinner' type gal with blonde hair (dyed) and very beautiful eyes and a wonderful face. You'll want to keep holding her close. Having her ride me was a joy, she was quite experienced with clamping on with her legs and giving you a very nice shaft massage. She is also very talkative and pleasant to converse with if your Spanish skills are good. She is skinny so you can pretty much pick scoop her up while she's riding you, but she can take a pounding and likes it doggy style. I lasted longer with her than with Celeste (probably because I was so eager and happy to be back But also Mariana is more sensitive to your mood than Celeste was at least at that time. With Celeste it was close to the end of the day. With Mariana it was in the middle of the day on a Sunday.

After a wonderful time with her on me and then a little doggy style, we finished in MISH after some wonderful sets of rapid and slow and powerful compressions. She's quite strong and sturdy and capable of pushing herself so far up that you are as far into her as you can possibly go. And THEN some! I was worried about my weight (I have gained a bit of weight over the last two years, not a whole lot but I definitely want to be back to my old weight the next time I come back to Monger in Mexico! But she didn't mind and I had told her to let me know if she ever got uncomfortable but she was just fine, smiling and moaning and nibbling on my ears and sticking her tongue in my ear when she'd get nice and hot and bothered! We were both hot and heavy with each other and though she doesn't allow french kissing, I did ask if she was OK with kissing with a closed mouth and she was fine with that after a little while. It's so nice when you playfully nibble on a woman's lips with your own lips, without teeth. No tongue action but I'm thinking maybe after a few more sessions and as she gets comfortable with me maybe we can do a little of that. Kissing is awesome. Very GFE but you don't always get that from Mexican women. Although two years ago I was getting that from every girl at Danys. They also knew how good I was about brushing my teeth and being clean and shaved (no stubble though I have a beard but the beard is soft) so they were quite into it.

Anyway of the two I have to say Mariana gave me the better orgasm but it's not Celeste's fault. I was too eager and had been starved from mongering so. I may repeat it with Celeste later on to see how well I stand up to more bronco busting and really give her a good pounding doggy style. My doggy styled out a lot more quickly than I wanted it to.

With Mariana everything worked out perfectly. I left with a permasmile on my face that must have lit the street as I walked off and headed back to my private apartment room. The bus ride home was great, the driver was going really slow so I was able to simply sit back and relive the entire experience over and over in my head. Ahh. Feels so great to be back in Mexico! (And to be back at Danys!

There are some really hot looking ladies there too. Jimena is back after 1 1/2 years of being gone. Ivana is a sultry looking brunette with really nice tits! Abril is one I want to try next. She was there two years ago and is one of only two who have been there that long. She has beautiful long dark hair, is thin, not too short and is really friendly and outgoing.

I'll report back with more very soon!

I also had the pleasure of meeting a fellow monger who came all the way from Canada. I translated a little for him and he liked it so much he came back to Danys a few times! I hope you still get a chance to enjoy Danys before you head back We'll be in touch!

As far as the other places. I haven't gone to them. I used to go High Class a long time ago but that facility was very run down when I first went there about 7 or 8 years ago. I remember watching the guy who worked at reception using something to try to unclog and clean the shower heads. They make plenty of money, they could at least buy new shower heads. Oh well, I'm sure they have done that by now. I can't imagine those things hanging in there this long.

Danys has a website. Don't know about the rules of posting the website but just search for esteticamasculinadanys on google and it will show up as the first hit. Type it in as l one word. You will see actual pictures of the girls! Mariana is there! She is just as I describe her, short, thin and cute! (they hide their faces though).

Ok if any mongers are in the area let me know. I have just gone to some amazing restaurants and I have their addresses so I can PM them to you. My friend that I have gone out with to eat is vegetarian so these tend to be vegetarian restaurants. But I will tell you, they are extremely awesome! I like meat, beef, turkey, sometimes pork. I'm no vegan or vegetarian, but I know good healthy food when I eat it and pricepoint is good to great. There is one place that was pricey but hey, $65 pesos is still cheap for a safe, healthy, delicious meal that will keep you on a strong mongering track. Sure beats anything McDonalds or Burger King makes! Yuck! And I had the most amazing veggie tacos for $13 pesos each last night. Home made tortillas too. ! 4 of those and I was stuffed. Dessert was even better! (chocolate cake but with 100% cacao, not processed chocolate).

For those of you curious about hotels. There is a good alternative to hotels that I used this trip. I am paying $10 USD a night for a private room with full access to the kitchen (full sized refrigerator with freezer), gas stove, hot water showers (private bathroom / shower attached to my room for my use only), and very rapid and 24 hour internet. I found it through the airbedandbreakfast website. They go by airbnb and they work like any of those hotel search websites, only I think they're better. Now just don't advertise you are mongering to the host. It's best to do that away from your hotel room, although some of the hosts will be cool with it. (especially if some of them do it too!) But generally it's not the best idea to have the chica you just met for a service know where you live and how to find you. That's what those hotels de paso are for. She goes to the hotel de paso, you do your thing and you both go your separate ways. Safety first. Anyway you will find some things have changed a little bit with the esteticas. Danys, for example, now sends women out to hotels if they are previous clients or are well known hotels. I'm sure they'll come to what appears to be a residence too, as long as they know you beforehand. For me I know I wouldn't have a problem. But I'd rather not pay the extra cost and taxi cost and just enjoy the gals at the Estetica!

If I can I might go check out the other esteticas. I haven't been to Geisha's in a long time. As far as the others I'll have to see how far away they are from where I am at. I don't have a vehicle this time and oddly it has rained for 2 of the last 3 days. It's very unusual for it to rain this late in the year. Rainy season usually ends by November. So if you are coming down in November, bring or get an umbrella. You can get them here cheaply. If you happen to have a good one or one you like and can fit it in your luggage, bring it along. Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it. Like I did the other day. Same goes with condoms but you never have to worry about that at the Esteticas! .

OK happy Mongering!

El Mojado Back in Action!

[Sun08]

I was at Jet Set a couple of months ago. Their price was 1,300 MXN. I used to enjoy this place, but the service and girl quality last time was no better than Danys (although they had a bigger selection) where the price is 350 MXN.Thanks. I was in Guadalajara for a short trip last week. On Wednesday I went to Men's Paradise. The door was wide open and you could see the girls from the street. There were six girls. They all looked good but very skinny. Not the type that I like. I selected one anyway (Jennifer). She was friendly and warm. The service was good but not great. The place charges $1200 pesos for one hour. That was on a Wednesday late afternoon.

On Friday I went to Barba Azul. This is located on Ave. Vallarta. The door was closed so you have to ring the bell. The first floor is a estetica. In fact when I was leaving I saw another guy getting hair cut. He asked me to go upstairs. Upstairs there was an older, very polite man who greeted me warmly. At that moment he only had one girl available. The other six girls were in the room and already with a client so I did not get a chance to see them all. The only one available was actually nice but I wanted to see few more girls before selecting anyone. So I told him I come back another time. I think he said $1100 pesos for one hour but my Spanish is not good and not sure if that is what he said. This is a nice, clean place. This place is within walking distance of Men's Paradise and Oasis. So I walked to Oasis Estetica. I rang the bell and a man opened the door. Then two girls showed up. One with a nice body and the other (Jacki) with a pretty face. I selected Jacki. The service was good. She was warm, GFE type. They charge $1400 pesos.

All three facilities were very clean and nice. I liked the Men's Paradise and Barba Azul more, they had more girls working. This was my first trip to Guadalajara and these esteticas. My impression is the ones that charge more do not necessarily have better quality girls. Part of it is due to its prime location and very nice, secure, clean facilities that they have.

[Gurgeh]

I'm in Orlando in early February and am thinking maybe about a trip south. I've a couple hundred words of Spanish tops and never been south of Mexico. What do you guys think is the best place to go? I kinda enjoy talking with street workers, don't like discos, am OK with parlours.

Direct flights from Orlando go to Santo Domingo (DR), Bogota, San Jose (CR), Guadalajara and Mexico City so I suppose that's the shortlist.

[MrThomas]

Thanks for the info on the board. I have had some time to explore in Guadalajara. Its a great city to visit, it doesn't seem like the best if you're only planning to monger. It seems like there are a lot of options but they are not easy to discover. I should probably find a trusted taxi driver and let him show me around, but I don't use taxis enough to get comfortable with a driver. One thing that disappoints me is there are a lot of white women working in the esteticas and massage houses, I don't find many with the darker skin. Also, I think some basic Spanish is pretty much necessary though I met one guy getting by without.

I kind of want to check out a titty bar in the city if anyone has any recommendations. They may not have sex in there but maybe I can find a dancer who will meet later.

I found some places not yet mentioned:

Estética Mediterráneo. Their address and hours can be found on their Facebook page. A session was 640 pesos a session including a massage (I skipped) oral and penetration (all covered, one shot and your done). They had quite a few girls, but I thought they were average at best and left. But as a left a hottie walked into their garage, I went back and yes she was available. Service was good though not GFE. The room was better than some places, the bed was too narrow though they did have a mirror on the ceiling above which was a nice touch. The room did have a shower.

Masaje? - I forget the name, its located the northwest corner of Calz del Federalismo and Morelos. It has signs clearly indicating massage is available. Its open from 9 AM to 9 PM, sessions are 350 pesos. I didn't like the women there (overweight), except one who says she only works till 5 PM. I saw her, service was good, nice kissing, oral and penetration. The bed was pretty narrow, the room did have a shower with hot water. I'll probably go back, the location works out well for me though the selection is limited.

I found the place on Morelos trying to visit a place on Morelos and Avenida Enrique Diaz de Leon Norte. I found it there, but it was closed. I had found out about it through a Spanish site. I have found two good Spanish sites for mongering info, but I haven't really followed up on the information they have otherwise. I'm not sure if I can link them here. I'm tempted to try some of the escorts reviewed but haven't had time.

[Steven]

I checked out Danis today. The place to me seems to be a rip off. Their website says 350 pesos, but when I got there they told me it would be 450 pesos. I said what about your website? They say oh that's just for a 10 or 15 minute quickie. They only had three girls there anyway, none of them looked attractive to me. So I left and went to Grecia, located in the Plaza de las 9 Esquinas. It was 250 pesos for a half hour, GFE, and there were about six girls, and a couple of them were attractive. They offer a two girl half hour session for 450 pesos which I'm going to try tomorrow. A few doors down and on the other side of the privada, there's a place called Italia. They offer more of a spa experience with sauna Jacuzzi massage full-service session for 380 pesos. Privada Genersl Pedro Rio Seco 18.

[WorldTravel14]

I had similar issues at Danny's in regards to price and low quality of women. Steven, have you visited Estetica Bambinas on Avenida Washhington 1181 and 8 de Julio? They have a Facebook page with pics and I have heard good things about them. If you are still in the area please check them out and let us know the details!

Thanks!

[MrThomas]

I did find some forums in Spanish, one linked to a map of the esteticas. Unfortunately the forum is closed, you can still find the map if you search for 'zd-4 uWB4 Zjyk. KlyxlciZZPTM' or 'esteticas guadalajara site:Google.com'. You can search for sexxxyprovincia or sexoenguanatos to find forums in Spanish that review some of the girls. The map will keep you busy, but I found a lot of the places to have low quality girls.

So I revisited the place on Calle de Morelos and Avenida Enrique Diaz de Leon" and I want to say it seems like a good spot. $450 for 30 minutes (it might be 350 before 1 PM). I've been there and saw 4 chicas one day and 8 the other. I thought they were quite a bit better looking than some of the other surrounding ones, particularly below <1000, and I did two sessions there. The first time I walked by I didn't see their actual door, so look carefully. Its not the building's original door (which is sealed off and makes the place look closed). The decal'the white wall is actually a door, and you'll see a white 'abierto' sign which is also easy to miss.

Generally: Some girls will kiss, it helps to ask before agreeing to the session. If you have a chance to talk to each girl during the lineup, ask the interesting ones about that. Otherwise ask before you pay. I get the sense that 2-4 PM is the time to get the best selection at these places. They really vary from time to time, maybe you can call in advance.

I had some good experiences at Dani's but there's not always good girls there. I wonder if they have a harder time keeping talent with their lower rates.

As I said before, Mediterraneo at Niños Heroes 970 is also decent, 640 pesos per session and they usually had a good number of girls. Not really my type, but better chicas than other places.

Hobbie Inn at Lapislazuli 3135 had maybe a half-dozen girls, 1200 pesos per appointment (HR? I didn't take any when I went, but I noticed a good variety of body types and two were quite doable.

I did take a session at Alex at LOS Arcos 885. They had some cute girls, also 1200 pesos per hour. The girl I had was real sweet, nice kisses, ended up using the full hour as my condom slipped off and we had to start over after she found a new one. But you know its hit or miss, I don't think you can expect the same service from another girl at the same place.

Casanova at López Mateos Sur 1623 only had two girls that I remember, on the large size though I think they had enhanced boobs. Or maybe that was High Class at Lázaro seeárdenas 2913, or Rapé at Lazaro Cardenas 2934. The women at all three were on the heavy side for my tastes, though the rate was probably lower.

Its worth noting that around the block from Barba Azul is Luigi's at López Cotilla 1882. I think the price was <500 pesos. The map also shows a place around the block from Dani's- Diamond at José Guadalupe Montenegro 1545. I didn't check out Diamond as I didn't know it was there when I went to Dani's.

Jet Set is conveniently located at Avenida México 2057, on the north side of chapultepec. 1400 pesos an hour, maybe a dozen girls when I went, though I didn't try any. The map also says there is something at Avenida Mexico 2071, though I didn't go in or notice it.

[Striker446]

Okay so I am stoked about going to Giadalajara, part business, part pleasure.

Thing is this I don't get out much so when I do I like to enjoy myself, of course I plan on doing the estetica thing, but sometimes like I like to stay in and order take out.

What nice hotels in Guadalajars are okay with me having a lady friend brought to me.

I reserved a suite at the Hilton Expo but if its an issue there I can cancel and go somewhere else.

Hotel where it is nice enough to stay and Chica friendly again I don't want motels or hourly places I don't mind paying more if I am going to enjoy my self, I don't go out much so when I do I want to enjoy it.

[Gallo Ingles]

Okay so I am stoked about going to Giadalajara, part business, part pleasure.

Thing is this I don't get out much so when I do I like to enjoy myself, of course I plan on doing the estetica thing, but sometimes like I like to stay in and order take out.

What nice hotels in Guadalajars are okay with me having a lady friend brought to me.

I reserved a suite at the Hilton Expo but if its an issue there I can cancel and go somewhere else.

Hotel where it is nice enough to stay and Chica friendly again I don't want motels or hourly places I don't mind paying more if I am going to enjoy my self, I don't go out much so when I do I want to enjoy it.I hope you enjoy your time in Guadalajara.

Here is a map that may be of help in locating services. The prices are also shown on the map. Typically, you get what you pay for.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=zUd62-ATA1mM.k1MnR3Vc0riE&msa=0&ll=20.68322, -103.329163&spn=0. 184366,0. 338173.

[Thaijuan14]

I will be staying GDL in June for a month. I want to take a trip back to Cancun, posted about it. What airline should I take? Should I book it through my expedia account or is it cheaper locally? I am also thinking about cabo san lucas, never been. I would love the. F. But I will not go alone, if I had a person who lives there I would go. Thanks for any help.

[Old Parr]

I will be staying GDL in June for a month. I want to take a trip back to Cancun, posted about it. What airline should I take? Should I book it through my expedia account or is it cheaper locally? I am also thinking about cabo san lucas, never been. I would love the. F. But I will not go alone, if I had a person who lives there I would go. Thanks for any help.Forget Cancun or Cabo San Lucas, go to what I consider the best city in Mexico, Puerto Vallarta. It is a 4 hour trip via a luxury bus that is also a nice ride. Buses leave Guadalajara on a regular basis, possibly hourly. Cost about twenty dollars.

[Gagoo]

I arrived to Guadalajara today. The cost of the taxi to a hotel near Centro was 320 pesos. Taxis at Mexican airports are paid at a counter inside the airport.

My hotel is about 1 mile (1. 6 KM) from Danny's. Even though it isn't far I wanted to arrive to Danny's fresh feeling, so I tried to catch a taxi. At least 4 empty taxis passed me up. I'm not sure what that was about. I ended up walking to Danny's. I arrived at about 7:15 PM.

The lady who works there speaks no English, and my Spanish isn't so great. She only had 4 girls working. Later she said she normally has up to 10 women working. She said there will be many more girls tomorrow. When I arrived I was the only man there. But, there were some others doing thier thing with ladies. All of the ladies were busy when I arrived. The momasan said I only have to wait5-10 minutes. I agreed to wait. She offered me a drink. She gave me a can of Coke. She never charged me for this. Guys kept coming in every few minutes. By the time I went up there were about 8 guys and myself, but I had first choice. I seen Brianca when I first sat down, but she soon disappeard to go do her thing with someone else. Later a girl named Roxana showed up. She was a little less than average looking. None of the guys waiting wanted to take her. I was wondering why are there 8 guys in their and they didn't chose her, they see Brianca come back but she was reserved by me. I eventually seen another girl, she was in a towel. She was only about a 5 as far as looks. I couldn't see what her body was like. Some of the guys waiting wanted Brianca, but they would have to wait their turn, or leave. The guys were waiting for someone, but I don't know who. The girls working were Brianca, Mia, Celeste and Roxana.

The price is 470 pesos for up to an hour. On their website it seems like for 2 girls, it is 600 pesos for each girl. I don't think it would be 600 pesos for 2 girls. That is also the price listed on their website, but. There were many guys waiting, and the spa wasn't going to close on time with them waiting. The room was small, but had a good A / see unit, and the massage bed wasn't too small like some places. But the squeaky noise from the bed was distracting. After the massgae I got a quick covered BJ, it was pretty decent, she seems like a strong girl. And sucks strong, massages strong, etc. She did a pretty good job riding me, and I could have finished quickly but I wanted to do her doggy. She has a pretty nice body, but I could tell she had a baby. She is 21 years old and said she has been working there for 2 years.

Overall it was pretty good, and the momasan is nice. There were only 4 girls, but I only seen 3 of them. I would have had sex with the girl that was only wearing a towel, I didn't catch her name, it was either Celeste or Mia. But Brianca was the best looking one, and she actually put a lot of enthusiam and energy into what she was doing. She knows how to make a man's leche come out really well. The momasan and Brianca said there will be many more girls tomorrow. I think I'll have a look. I'd like to check out some other places also.

Attached is a picture of the business card from Danny's. The business card isn't accurate though. For the website you need to add ". MX" after the web link.

[Gagoo]

Day two:

I went to Danny's again on the 2nd day. The lady said only 4 girls were working and they were all busy and there were 2 guys waiting. I decided to just leave. It seems as though some of the girls stop working at 4 PM.

I then went to Paradise Men's club. It is on Google maps. It was about 7:15 PM now. Hmmm. It was either 5 or 6 girls shown to me, and they were all at least decent. Two of them were very much to my liking. I chose a girl named Kitty. She is 18 years old, very nice tits, real, but really really firm. But that is OK. Her ass wasn't bad, and her skin was very soft. She had a great attitude, we started before we even got to the massage bed. The room is almost like a studio apartment, but no A / see. I wish it had A / see. She gave me an uncovered BJ and she was in no rush, and then she worked her mouth on my balls and below my balls while staring in to my eyes. This girl fucked great and was willing to try new positions. I never seen an 18 year old be this good. She pleased me like she was at least 27 years old. Deep kissing also was not an issue. She is a winner for sure.

The price is 1,200 pesos for up to an hour. I'd definitely would look for her when I come back. Oddly she says she lives in city about 2. 5 hours away and commutes both ways each day. I couldn't understand the name of the city she said she was from.

Day three:

It was Sunday, and many places close early or don't open at all. I only walked around all day. I did see some working ladies Morelos park. One of the actually motioned and said something for me to come to her. She was really nasty looking. At least 50 years old, 200 pounds and dressed like she is homeless. NASTY! I walked around the park some more and seen two more of them, they also looked homeless. I know in an earlier report someone said he fucked a girl from her for 200 pesos or something. But damn. No thanks!

In the vicinity of Hostel Hospedarte Guadalajara Centro, I found many currency exchange places. The rates were so good. I noticed in Mexico some cities have very terrible exchange rates, and Guadalajara is one of them, even most banks have terrible rates. What I liked though is you can buy the Mexican Silver and gold coins for cheaper than you will get them in the States. Mexico City has an area like this also. Yes, the silver coins I did buy are real.

Day Four:

I walked buy a place I seen on Google maps, but it didn't look so promising on the outside, the name of it is Estetica Masculina Masajes Spa Vedette. I just walked buy it and walked all the way to Barba Azul. That is on Google maps also. Once again I am arriving later in the evening. I arrived about 7:15 PM. I was only shown 4 women. None of them were ugly, but I only really liked one of them. The price quoted is 1,200 pesos for 1 hour, or 2,000 pesos for 1. 5 hours. That isn't very good math. He said massage and everything else is included. I chose a girl named Allie, or perhaps she spells it different. She acted like she was new to this, and after we were done I found out she had only been working there 15 days. And it seemed like she was only working there 3 days.

She acted like she didn't want to be there and not want to do what she was doing. So, you know how that ruins the moment. I could tell she didn't want to massage first, and I didn't mind. But she didn't do anything to wake my little buddy up, she just rubbed it a little. But she has a very nice ass, so while she rubbed me I rubbed her ass and my little buddy woke up.

She was 23 years old, and was built like a Colombian woman from Cali. Not fat, but thick legs and ass, no stomach, and she had fake tits. I kept telling her she looks very strong and she kept saying she goes to the gym and lifts weights. I felt a little awkward when she was on top of me because she had broad shoulders.

We then switched to doggy so I can hit it doggy. She does indeed have a nice ass. I finished my business, but I think if I would have had sex the day before I wouldn't have busted with this girl. The service was lousy. My one hour of massage / sex was only about 20 minutes of business.

Another thing I didn't like there is the room also didn't have A / see. It had a fan though, and it wasn't so bad. Out of three places I went, only Danny's had A / see in the room.

My hotel here in Guadalajara is Hotel Casino Plaza. I don't think there is a casino in here though. It is a small place, but it has A / see, hot water, and decent internet, and it isn't far to walk to the historical areas or some of the massage places. Danny's is a 1 mile walk from here. I never tried to bring a girl in here, but I get the feeling it would probably be OK.

I'm off to Cabo San Lucas tomorrow. I know it isn't a popular spot for mongering, but I am going anyways. I am renting a condo there from someone on AIRBNB, so I won't have any problems with having a woman come visit me if needed.

Attached is the business card for Barba Azul.

[DuckTapePro]

Hi,

I am able to spend a couple thousand on a white looking Mexican chic but I don't know if these types of Mexicans are available for P4P anyone got any ideas or info.

[Gagoo]

Hi,

I am able to spend a couple thousand on a white looking Mexican chic but I don't know if these types of Mexicans are available for P4P anyone got any ideas or info.I was just in GDL. This year I have spent about 7 weeks in different Mexican cities. I don't like to bring skin color in to normal conversations, especially since I can be as white as anyone else in the winter and very dark in the summer. I notice in many countries I can feel a difference in how I am treated depending on how dark my skin color is. When in Mexico most of the working girls that work in a bar or massage place is white skinned. The local men seem to fancy light skin girls, and the women try their best to keep light skinned. Just like most 3rd world countries, if you watch a Mexican TV show, the actors are almost always beautiful looking white looking people. I was in Mexico two weeks with a young Colombian lady that I paid for her airfare. I mentioned to her many times Colombia has many many more beautiful looking women. And she said yeah, the good looking Mexican women are on TV.

Anyways most of the working women in Mexico are light skinned. I think at least 75% of the working women in Mexico are white skinned. Just like other big countries when you go to different cities you can see people look, dress, and act differently in all the cities. People seemed rather normal and relaxed in GDL. When I was there a couple weeks ago they where having a very big gay / lesbian parade around several city blocks and parks. The non-gays seemed to be quite amused to watch the gays and lesbians do what they want. OK, now I'm getting off subject. Anyways, most "working"women in Mexico are white skinned. Most will naturally be a brunette. Once in awhile you can find you a really white girl with red hair, or strawberry blondes. In GDL I went to three "massage" places and they all had white skinned girls. Actually, I think the only choice was white skinned girls. Out of the places I went which are in my reports below, Paradise Men's Club had the best looking women. I wish I could see the 18 year old girl there named Kitty again.

[MrFurley]

Had a free Friday (Sept 4th) while visiting the lovely city of Guadalajara. After some research of recent posts I decided to take one for the team and check out a few spots from the google map that I didn't see any intel on.

First, I went to Estetica Masculina Cassandra. After a few searches, the booty on this cutie in the following youtube link sort of sold me to check it out. https://youtu.be/EqpDj9WNNEU.

I had the taxi drop me off at the Starbucks on Avenida Americas then I walked down Herrara why Ciaro to the the parallel street of Balbuena and walked down to Cassandras. Use the google map street view to find landmarks, like the red and yellow chicken spot at the corner. The front of Cassandra opens up like a barn, so don't expect much discretion. They had the double doors open so you can see right in. It was about 2 pm and the street is quiet though. There's a desk and couch as you walk in and I was asked to walk straight to the back. A couple of girls sat on the couch but I just got a glance. The girl that showed me to the back was a winner for that place. Probably about 5 girls there. I asked to see all the girls in my half-ass espanol. I don't recall any standouts, I do remember an older one but none were awful. All probably would have gotten the meat pipe. The room she showed me to had the massage table, mental frame, bolted down, with a mattress and a thin-sheet. No squeaks from that table. The room had a tower fan and a extra seat but no real cushion to it. There is a full bathroom with shower and toilet. I don't remember if the water was hot because I was hot after my session and probably appreciated cold or lukewarm water at that point. Session was 500 MXP for a 1/2 HR or 800 MXP for 1 HR. I went with the 1/2 HR since I was new to the GDL scene and didn't know what to expect with these esteticas. I chose the girl that showed me to the back. All natural, cute face and smile. Got massaged (eh), chupa'd and fucked. Didn't seem to watch the clock. Didn't do any deep kissing in this session. All in all, not bad. It's a lower end spot so if you have high expectations maybe you'd prefer a higher end spot. But for about 30 USD I couldn't say no. F it!

Went back to the hotel and caught a nap. Didn't think I would head back out and my flight left early the next AM. Was about to beat IT after I woke up, when I thought, "why do it myself when I can go to another estetica and let them stimulate me and I can help stimulate the local economy?" hahaha. I quickly did some research and narrowed down the choices based on price. I wanted to get rid of my remaining pesos but had to calculate the cost and taxi. It was about 730 p and most places close by 9 pm. But I made it happen! Got to the a mid-grade spot called Cristopher on Avenida Hidalgo why Costilla a little after 8 p. There is a sign for the place and you can see it if you manipulate the google street view. This street is a little busy with traffic and is a one-way (4-lanes w / median). There is a open-air bar a little diagonal on the opposite side of the street. Anyway, I walked to the door that is an open gated door (w / o screen) that you can see in. I was quickly greeted by a beautiful brown Mexicana with jet black hair, in lingerie with an ass and asked to go upstairs. This place had a much better layout and quality than the previous. Not extremely high-end but much nicer layout. She took me upstairs and into a room. I was sold on her because she was exactly what I was looking for but I said let me see the rest of the stable. Before that, she asked if I wanted 1 chica for 800 MXP or 2 chicas for 1000 MXP. I declined at first and told her I didn't think I had the energy. She then brought in the girls. I'd say about 8 girls. But between nerves in rushing to get there and contemplating the 2 vs Me I couldn't focus. But these chicas were definitely a good variety. When she came back I said I want her and she asked me again if I wanted the 2 for 1000. When I figured out the 200 MXP difference was really about 11 USD, I thought to myself "when the hell are you coming back to GDL? Let's rock! YOLO!" I figured she was trying to maybe get a friend some money before the end of the night. I wasn't going to be upset with any of them that she showed me. I said Vamonos and she then took me to another room. The two rooms were fine. The new room had a mini-wood sauna and hot tub. Didn't use either. The tub had seen better times. There was also a separate full-bath with shower. The shower trickled water though hot. The girls were fun, talkative and energetic. Loved that I had an ass to slap and I returned the favor while I played Mario with them. DFKs, fingering, no BBBJ but they talked about it. I should have offered some incentive but next time. Had to change condoms for both but it was no prob. The girls aimed to please. It was a good time! Ran over time and el jefe and some others were downstairs waiting because it was closer to 930 and they closed at 9 p. But no issues. The chicas made some jokes about me having the energy after all. I guess I did.

[TomJackin]

I hope you enjoy your time in Guadalajara.

Here is a map that may be of help in locating services. The prices are also shown on the map. Typically, you get what you pay for.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=zUd62-ATA1mM.k1MnR3Vc0riE&msa=0&ll=20.68322, -103.329163&spn=0. 184366,0. 338173.Thank you for the map. What are different pin colors, different venues, I think.

Red, yellow, blue, green, and the question mark for example.

Thanks.

[Gallo Ingles]

Thank you for the map. What are different pin colors, different venues, I think.

Red, yellow, blue, green, and the question mark for example.

Thanks.Hey Tomjackin, The colors refer to the cost.

(Light blue) Azul Claro esttica $1000.

(Red) Rojo esttica de $500-1000.

(Green) Verde esttica <$500.

(Yellow. Private house / brothel) Amarillo casita.

(Purple -out of service) Morado: Fuera de juego XD.

(Pink. Not yet in service) rosa pendiente.

(? -unknown status) ? = sigue funcionando?

I hope you have a great time in GDL. Please report on any experiences or discoveries.

[TomJackin]

Hey Tomjackin, The colors refer to the cost.

(Light blue) Azul Claro esttica $1000.

(Red) Rojo esttica de $500-1000.

(Green) Verde esttica <$500.

(Yellow. Private house / brothel) Amarillo casita.

(Purple -out of service) Morado: Fuera de juego XD.

(Pink. Not yet in service) rosa pendiente.

(? -unknown status) ? = sigue funcionando?

I hope you have a great time in GDL. Please report on any experiences or discoveries.Thank you for taking the time; I was going a bit crazy trying to figure the damn colors out.

[Gagoo]

I went yesterday about 7:15 PM. I think one girl was busy, because I seen her later, and I was shown only two girls. As luck would have it, I had been with each of them twice each. I've had great service from both.

One is called Gabby, or maybe she spells it different. I was with her 2 months ago, so I can't remember all of her details. She is about 30 and is from Brazil. I remember her story was something like she was a lawyer and for some reason her life was in danger, so it was best for her to not go back to Brazil. She has been in Mexico for quite awhile. She gave great service, BBBJ and DFK and nice body. She really enjoyed her job. But when I seen her yesterday with the 19 YO named Kitty, she didn't look pretty in the face anymore. The Brazilian girl has an awesome ass though.

Yesterday I took the girl Kitty. She just turned 19. Her tits are about a 9. 5. The rest about a 7 or 8. She is still young and needs some more meat. She gave me good service this time, but not as good as before. Before, she wouldn't use a condom for BJ, and she would DFK. But not this time. She sucked my balls a lot though. She wasn't working two months ago, she said she had a problem. She just started working again a week ago. I think maybe she had a "medical" problem. I could tell she wanted to DFK but she pointed to her mouth or lips and said just kiss a little bit. Not sure if she had a mouth sore or something. Yesterday she was passionately sucking me for 30 minutes nonstop. She seems to enjoy giving a BJ. But I wanted her on top so I can see and play with those wonderful tits. I had a great time, but, she used a condom for things this time.

Whatever condom she used yesterday was really good, it was better than what they used before. I need to go back tomorrow, to see what condom that was. And maybe do something else. LOL.

When finished with her she told me her real name because she thought I asked her that. I asked where she lives, and when I looked it up it looks like a vey rich neighborhood, a place called Urbi. So, I don't know if she is making spending money, or college money or what.

The price there is at the higher end for Guadalajara, but for each of the 5 times I went, I've always had a great time, no rush, no games, no BS, no uninterested women.

When I left I seen a girl I haven't seen before. I will have to have a reunion with Gabby again, and try the new girl and maybe go with Kitty again if I don't see the others. Price was 1,200 pesos. What was odd is they let me pay after this time. Before, I thought I had to pay first. But, I think the guy, and Gabby for sure remembered me. Sadly, Kitty didn't remember me from before.

I went to stay over in a town called Tequila today, a nice little town. I'm going to ask some cab drivers if they know of anything here, I wouldn't be surprised if there isn't. I'll be back in Guadalajara tomorrow for 4 nights. I'll have to see what will be open on Sunday, or arrange something.

[Gagoo]

Most places seemed closed on Sunday. Anybody know what is open on Sunday?

I got contacts before on Whatsapp, but these GDL girls don't message back like the girls in other countries.

[Gagoo]

I'm starting to feel like I'm talking to myself, but you guys can listen in if you want. I returned to GDL from Tequila this Saturday. After getting settled in to the room and relaxing, it was getting a little late. I decided to go to Paradise again.

This time in the evening only Gabby and a girl named Fernanda were working. But Gabby was busy. I was only shown Fernanda. The girl named Kitty didn't work that day. I am getting disappointed with the lack of women here.

Only Fernanda was available. She looked OK to me. Her body was OK, not special, not fat. She had red hair, which was maybe not natural. It looks like she had a see-section scar. I thought she was about 26 or 27, but she said she was 21. It was obvious she had acne problems when she was young.

Service was OK, not spectacular. She wanted to use a condom for a BJ. She got on top for awhile, no kissing. Then I did her doggy. She has a pretty nice white ass, so I had no problem finishing. I didn't like the condom much though. The condom the girl Kitty used a couple days earlier was a much better condom, seems to be a high-end condom. This time I got the cheap red condom. I think she was hinting her and Gabby would go out later, but I didn't ask to join them.

When I finished I seen Gabby, and she blew me many kisses. I need to go see if she will still give the great kissing and uncovered BJ. I want to stop by Oasis also, since I happened to accidentally walk by it a few times before.

[Gagoo]

Spartacus was open until 5:30 PM and Danny's is open until 4 PM. More high e the places like Paradise are closed.

I walked by Spartacus not knowing if it was open. There were 2 women, and one of them I would not touch at all, but she insisted it was me and her. The other girl was older, but seemed OK. Lady quoted 300 pesos for 30 minutes. But I chose to leave. I might walk back later today. Not sure. I have other places to look at.

I then walked to Danny's. Only two girls were available. The first one shown was Ok, the second girl looks OK also, but she seemed to be in a phone chatting conversation. I think the price went up She showed me a menu, and the 450 price was crossed out and I was is now 470. I told her the price went up, and she said only 20 pesos more.

So, note that Danny's is now 470 pesos. I can't exactly remember the girls name, it was slightly odd. I think something like Cecila. She was 24 years old, kind of think, but slim stomach, just a thicker girl. Small tits though, pretty nice ass, white girl. No kissing and covered BJ. She licked balls and sucked my ears though. Nothing too special. One again the condom sucked, the condom was small and dry. After a few positions she took off the condom and have be a very good handjob. She was nice to squirt me all over her tits. I made quite a mess on her chest, she gave a small laugh. I'll be bringing my own condoms next time I go somewhere.

These places were open on Sunday, I'm sure quite a few more of the small places would be open also.

I drove by a place called the, Club, or might have been the'Klub a few times. Online it looks like a strip bar. Anybody know about this? I'm thinking it's just going to be an expensive place. But it is next to an auto hotel, and many truck drivers park in that area, so it would be a good place for truck drivers to get them some action.

[TomJackin]

I drove by a place called the, Club, or might have been the'Klub a few times. Online it looks like a strip bar. Anybody know about this? I'm thinking it's just going to be an expensive place. But it is next to an auto hotel, and many truck drivers park in that area, so it would be a good place for truck drivers to get them some action.Thanks for the reports.

I went to ten strip clubs in two nights, (D) Klub was my least favorite. My trip report is almost done.

Here is the information about that club:

Club: (D) Klub.

Cover charge: 200 pesos.

No cover charge, but minimum spending amount: None.

Minimum drink purchase: 3 drinks.

Ficha cost: 310 pesos.

Sex with one of the girls: 2950 for 30 minutes.

Sex on site: Yes.

Number of Chicas: Around 30.

Quality of Chicas: Pretty good, but not worth the money.

Comments: This was my least favorite club, they had a cover charge and a 3 drink minimum purchase. Plus they added the tip into my total check; fuck that place!

[Bijou]

Thanks for the reports.

I went to ten strip clubs in two nights, (D) Klub was my least favorite. My trip report is almost done.

Gagoo- thanks for providing your trip reports. TomJackin- looking forward to reading yours too. Either of you have success in finding girls to bring back to the hotel / apartment? I assume that would be like any other place where you have to make arrangements for when the girl gets off work, but damn if I can stay up until 3 in the morning.

[Gagoo]

Gagoo- thanks for providing your trip reports. TomJackin- looking forward to reading yours too. Either of you have success in finding girls to bring back to the hotel / apartment? I assume that would be like any other place where you have to make arrangements for when the girl gets off work, but damn if I can stay up until 3 in the morning.Thanks, I didn't know spell check would misspell my words.

I won't go there for sure then. I found a club like that in Mexico City last week, called La Tironda. It was buy the girl 3 drinks at 230 pesos each, plus 500 pesos, and that is just a private room for dancing, then for sex the girl wanted 1,500 extra. I'll have to post that report in the proper pñace. I've walked around for awhile and look at that awesome map to see if anything is nearby. If not I might have a look at Barbara azul, but I will be very picky, if nothing there is good I'll look at Oasis, if that fails I will see if Gabby or a newer girl is available at Paradise.

Looking forward to your review.

[Gagoo]

Today was not well for me. I could not finish. I'm thinking it might be me experimenting with meds that I bought in Nicaragua. The pharmacies in Granada will sell you anything. In Nica I asked asked the lady what she has for sleep, and besides generic Ambien she showed me 5 other meds. So I bought some of each. I took a Clonazepam about 2 AM. It made me sleep well. But, maybe it is why I couldn't finish today.

I am trying to collect one of each year of the Mexican Silver Libertad coins, a good area for that is Av Lopez Cotilla and Maestranza. Lots of money changers, and they buy and sell silver and gold also.

After that I walked to one of my favorite places to have my late lunch, Jardin De Las 9 Escuinas. Wow, my stomach felt like it was stuffed with rocks. So I wasn't really in the mood, but I know some places are nearby. I wanted to have a peak. I seen the place called Italia. There were 5 or 6 women there. The only one that Might even consider is. I think the momasan. She said she would go. Service is 350 pesos. I think for 30 minutes. There is a place nearby called Grecia VIP. But I didn't see it. I looked twice. It must be an unmarked door or something.

So, I pick a route to walk to some places, and end up at my hotel where my rental car is. I didn't see the place on the map called nueva Galicia. I then went to Sagitarios. I knew of this place from walking by it many times. But I wasn't sure if it was a place of working ladies. I went it, saw about 6 women. Once again, the only decent woman seemed to be the momasan. I was thinking, she might know how to please a man. She made me too many offers and options to remember. I think if you just want the 30 minute deal it was also 350. You can get all kinds of combos there, same at Italia.

Time was running late now. I decided to have a look at Barba Azul. Only two girls where there. The man says he has 14 women all together, but today was only 2 girls. One of them was to think. A girl name Ruby was really nice looking. A nice morena lady nice ass. Well, see asked for 400 pesos if I wanted BJ with no condom. I didn't like her trying to do more business. I went ahead and agreed, but I said you also have to kiss. She said OK.

Well, the uncovered BJ was OK, not special. And she only gave small pecs on the lips. She didn't do the kissing. Otherwise she was standard, but, she was like emotionless. Like having sex with a piece of meat. She has a really nice ass, and I thouhgt that's all I need. But I couldn't finish. She wasn't in to it at all. During our conversations she says she has 2 kids and she in married. Well, he being married with 2 kids might explain why I see no emotions from her.

She was patient with me, but after fucking a few ways, I lost interest, and I couldn't get my little buddy in to the game. So that was a waste of 1,200, plus I agreed to 400 for the uncovered BJ. Sure I had some sex with her, grabbed and massaged her nice ass, suck tits etc. But I was a waste. After cleaning up I tried to suck her tits after she got out of the shower and she said she isn't working anymore. Well. What a * I never has a girl not like me kiss her tits or ass after we finished. This is my second time I am unhappy with Barba Azul.

Later I walked to a strip club called Lipstick. I met a few street walkers on the way. One of them seemed desperate. I just said no. I went inside Lipstick Club and there was no cover, but I had to buy 2 drinks. My 2 drinks was only 160 pesos. And yeah. The guy never came back to give me my change. I fixed that later. There are many good looking girls here, They close at 3 AM or later. I bought a really nice looking blonde, surely not really blonde, but she passes off as a real blonde very well. She looks like a very white skinned blonde girl. Nice body, nice natural tits. About half the girls in that club had fake tits. Small lady drinks are 120. I thought that was a god deal. I could suck tittles, grab tits and ass, rub her crotch, etc. I had a great time with her. I figured it was worth another 120 pesos to buy her another drink. But they bough her a full bottle of beer, which was 230 or 210 pesos. I didn't approve that, but, I let it slide.

She knew how to get me crazy. I asked if there was sex available. She said yes. The price is 600 for the room. Buy 6 x 120 peso drinks. , and I think it was 1,800 pesos for sex. Yes, it was a lot of money. It is 600 + 720 +1800 + they charged 10% tax, and I think they ended adding propina. I was in for almost $200 USD. The guy said 30 minutes, but he patted me on the should and said, 45 minutes is OK. There is like a secret door that opens to some stairs. Wow, it was freezing cold. But that is better than hot. The lady gave great service except she wanted to use a condom for BJ, She sucked my balls well though. And bit my ears to damn hard, She DFK me sometimes. She was quite patient with me. Even thiugh She let me do what I wanted, and she was on top, I just could not cum. She was in no rush though. I pretty much gave up and took off the condom, then we rub each other for awhile and talk. And what would you know, my little buddy wakes up, but we don't have another condom. I will fix that next time. I got her contact information and we said we can work out something for her to come to my hotel. L But. She wants 2,000 for 3 hours. So. I'm not sure yet. I unlikely would not need her for 3 hours, maybe in my younger days.

[Gagoo]

Today was not well for me. I could not finish. I'm thinking it might be me experimenting with meds that I bought in Nicaragua. The pharmacies in Granada will sell you anything. In Nica I asked asked the lady what she has for sleep, and besides generic Ambien she showed me 5 other meds. So I bought some of each. I took a Clonazepam about 2 AM. It made me sleep well. But, maybe it is why I couldn't finish today.

I am trying to collect one of each year of the Mexican Silver Libertad coins, a good area for that is Av Lopez Cotilla and Maestranza. Lots of money changers, and they buy and sell silver and gold also.

After that I walked to one of my favorite places to have my late lunch, Jardin De Las 9 Escuinas. Wow, my stomach felt like it was stuffed with rocks. So I wasn't really in the mood, but I know some places are nearby. I wanted to have a peak.

I seen the place called Italia. There were 5 or 6 women there. The only one that Might even consider is. I think the momasan. She said she would go. Service is 350 pesos. I think for 30 minutes. There is a place nearby called Grecia VIP. But I didn't see it. I looked twice. It must be an unmarked door or something.

So, I pick a route to walk to some places, and end up at my hotel where my rental car is. I didn't see the place on the map called nueva Galicia. I then went to Sagitarios. I knew of this place from walking by it many times. But I wasn't sure if it was a place of working ladies. I went it, saw about 6 women. Once again, the only decent woman seemed to be the momasan. I was thinking, she might know how to please a man. She made me too many offers and options to remember. I think if you just want the 30 minute deal it was also 350. You can get all kinds of combos there, same at Italia.

Time was running late now. I decided to have a look at Barba Azul. Only two girls where there. The man says he has 14 women all together, but today was only 2 girls. One of them was to think. A girl name Ruby was really nice looking. A nice morena lady nice ass. Well, see asked for 400 pesos if I wanted BJ with no condom. I didn't like her trying to do more business. I went ahead and agreed, but I said you also have to kiss. She said OK.

Well, the uncovered BJ was OK, not special. And she only gave small pecs on the lips. She didn't do the kissing. Otherwise she was standard, but, she was like emotionless. Like having sex with a piece of meat. She has a really nice ass, and I thouhgt that's all I need. But I couldn't finish. She wasn't in to it at all. During our conversations she says she has 2 kids and she in married. Well, he being married with 2 kids might explain why I see no emotions from her.

She was patient with me, but after fucking a few ways, I lost interest, and I couldn't get my little buddy in to the game. So that was a waste of 1,200, plus I agreed to 400 for the uncovered BJ. Sure I had some sex with her, grabbed and massaged her nice ass, suck tits etc. But I was a waste. After cleaning up I tried to suck her tits after she got out of the shower and she said she isn't working anymore. Well. What a *****. I never has a girl not like me kiss her tits or ass after we finished. This is my second time I am unhappy with Barba Azul.

Later I walked to a strip club called Lipstick. I met a few street walkers on the way. One of them seemed desperate. I just said no. I went inside Lipstick Club and there was no cover, but I had to buy 2 drinks. My 2 drinks was only 160 pesos. And yeah. The guy never came back to give me my change. I fixed that later. There are many good looking girls here, They close at 3 AM or later. I bought a really nice looking blonde, surely not really blonde, but she passes off as a real blonde very well. She looks like a very white skinned blonde girl. Nice body, nice natural tits. About half the girls in that club had fake tits. Small lady drinks are 120. I thought that was a god deal. I could suck tittles, grab tits and ass, rub her crotch, etc. I had a great time with her. I figured it was worth another 120 pesos to buy her another drink. But they bough her a full bottle of beer, which was 230 or 210 pesos. I didn't approve that, but, I let it slide.

She knew how to get me crazy. I asked if there was sex available. She said yes. The price is 600 for the room. Buy 6 x 120 peso drinks. , and I think it was 1,800 pesos for sex. Yes, it was a lot of money. It is 600 + 720 +1800 + they charged 10% tax, and I think they ended adding propina. I was in for almost $200 USD. The guy said 30 minutes, but he patted me on the should and said, 45 minutes is OK. There is like a secret door that opens to some stairs. Wow, it was freezing cold. But that is better than hot. The lady gave great service except she wanted to use a condom for BJ, She sucked my balls well though. And bit my ears to damn hard, She DFK me sometimes. She was quite patient with me. Even thiugh She let me do what I wanted, and she was on top, I just could not cum. She was in no rush though. I pretty much gave up and took off the condom, then we rub each other for awhile and talk. And what would you know, my little buddy wakes up, but we don't have another condom. I will fix that next time. I got her contact information and we said we can work out something for her to come to my hotel. L But. She wants 2,000 for 3 hours. So. I'm not sure yet. I unlikely would not need her for 3 hours, maybe in my younger days.

There is also a club behind Lipstick, a taxi driver said he likes it better. I might have a look tomorrow.

[TomJackin]

I've never been, had a few days off, and the airfare was very favorable!

First and foremost, I want to thank board members donovan, peewee, IDEAL41, and Artistyp for their help in my 3 night romp.

Airfare out of Tijuana: I flew Volaris for the third time out of Tijuana. The airfare was around $230 round trip.

Taxi to hotel: There was a taxi stand in the airport and it cost me 330 pesos to get to my hotel.

Hotel:

I stayed close to Central in a small boutique hotel called La Fe Hotel and Arts. I do not know if the place was girl friendly or not; never asked. The hotel only has 7 rooms and I stayed in the only room that had a king bed; the Rulfo. It was $80 per night. I was happy with the place; it was quiet and secure.

http://www.lafehotel.com.mx/

Driver:

With the recommendation from board members, I contacted and hired Mario as my driver for my entire stay. Mario does not speak any English, so my shitty Spanish helped a lot. Whenever I texted him, he was always on time and ready. If you are a timid passenger, then you might want to get a different driver; Mario blew through that city!

Restaurants:

I ate at the following restaurants:

Karne Garibaldi; World record holder for the fastest service. Great service and really good chow!

Hacienda Canelos: Great food, but with loud Mariachis.

Romerita 28: Next to my hotel and the food was quite good.

I also had more than my share of street food; it was all good.

Estticas:

I printed this map with Estticas around the area of my hotel:

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=zUd62-ATA1mM.k1MnR3Vc0riE&msa=0&ll=20.68322

I wanted to check out several of the places on my own, Thus, with trusty map in hand, I headed out on foot to seek, find, and conquer! Didn't work out at all. I looked for Griego's, but I was told by one of the merchants that the building was torn down; out of business. He then told me to walk another block or two, and I would find another on the right.

I found Luigis. All the girls were busy except the chunky Chica that explained the prices. Also, there were two dudes waiting for their favorites to finish. Miss Chunky told me it was full service for 390 pesos for 30 minutes; I passed. I heard one girl getting pounded! And then I thought, WOW these girls are getting pounded all day; bless their hearts.

The problem when looking for these places are the streets do not have fucking street signs! A few do, but most do not. I went looking for Christopher because I read good things about the place. I was lost within 5 minutes. I stopped a cab for help, and he got lost as well. After 6-7 minutes, he found the place. I was greeted at the door by Mariana (spell check the name). I walked in with her and saw at least 7 other Chicas.

Mariana had a beautiful face and great attitude. She was a tad chunky, but I overlooked that flaw. The cost was 900 for 1 hour, and if I wanted 2 girls, it would have been for only for 30 minutes and 200 more. But I like taking my time, so I went with her for 1 hour. I did not care for having sex on a massage table; I need room dammit! Everything was covered, but I really liked her service. Great massage and fun sex to boot at a decent price! She did not allow me to take any photos of her, just of the room.

That was all of my Estticas' experience; sorry I did not have the time to check out more places. And walking into a place and just picking a girl from a line-up is something I don't really care to do; that's why I like the strip clubs better.

Street girls:

Mario explained that the SGs come out late, like from 8 pm to 4 am. On Friday and Saturday, after it rained a lot, we went in search of the SGs. The SGs were around Parque Morales and on Calle Hidalgo. Each night, we found around 6-8 SGs. The going price was 300 pesos for 20/30 minutes, hotel was included.

On Saturday afternoon, we did some tourists stuff and went to Plaza de LOS Mariachis and San Juan de Dios. The Plaza de LOS Mariachis is small and it was closed due to many drinkers that were not of drinking age. As we left the area, driving down Calle Obregon, Mario spotted a few SGs. He stopped and asked about prices. They wanted 170 pesos for 15 minutes. Mario forgot to ask about the hotel because he was laughing too hard. That is all the information I have about the SGs; sorry gents.

Strip / table dance clubs:

Mario and I managed to check-out and experience 10 different clubs the first 2 nights. BTW, Mario never went into any of the clubs; I did all of the exploring inside, Mario just got me to the right clubs.

I used these sites to help me chose the clubs, as well as information from other sites.

https://foursquare.com/user/50585081/list/table-dance-strip-clubs

http://www.wikisexguide.com/wiki/Guadalajara

In each club, I asked several questions and did my best to write the answers on my trusty note pad. As the nights went on, the more I drank. Thus, if I am wrong with any of my notes, feel free to correct me.

Club: Caesars.

Cover charge: 200 pesos.

No cover charge, but minimum spending amount: None.

No cover charge, but minimum drink purchase: None.

Ficha cost: 275 pesos.

Sex with one of the girls: 3300 for 30 minutes.

Sex on site: Yes.

Number of Chicas: 40-45.

Quality of Chicas: Pretty fucking hot.

Comments: The cover charge came with one free lap dance, which I did not use. For whatever reason, some damn midget mesero kept bringing over girls that spoke English; I passed on all of them. I was on a mission dammit!

Club: Candy's.

Cover charge: 200 pesos.

No cover charge, but minimum spending amount: None.

No cover charge, but minimum drink purchase: None.

Ficha cost: 320 pesos.

Sex with one of the girls: 2750 for 30 minutes.

Sex on site: Yes.

Number of Chicas: 35 - 40.

Quality of Chicas: Pretty damn good, but expensive.

Comments: I wanted to sit closer to the stage, but I was directed to the outer seating. The bastards wanted more money for sitting near the stage.

Club: Praga.

Cover charge: None.

No cover charge, but minimum spending amount: 350 pesos.

No cover charge, but minimum drink purchase: None.

Ficha cost: 675 pesos.

Sex with one of the girls: 2850 for 30 minutes.

Sex on site: Yes.

Number of Chicas: Around 30.

Quality of Chicas: Many hotties, some not as hot.

Comments: This is a hard rock place, thus the band and the music were hard rock selections. The girls were very friendly; I liked the place.

Club: Monaco.

Cover charge: None.

No cover charge, but minimum spending amount: 350 pesos.

No cover charge, but minimum drink purchase: None.

Ficha cost: 675 pesos.

Sex with one of the girls: 2850 for 30 minutes.

Sex on site: Yes.

Number of Chicas: Around 30.

Quality of Chicas: Some hotties, some not as hot.

Comments: Same owner as Praga. In fact, I was sitting there and I heard the same band playing. I guess the band goes back and forth to each club throughout the night.

Club: (D) Klub.

Cover charge: 200 pesos.

No cover charge, but minimum spending amount: None.

Minimum drink purchase: 3 drinks.

Ficha cost: 310 pesos.

Sex with one of the girls: 2950 for 30 minutes.

Sex on site: Yes.

Number of Chicas: Around 30.

Quality of Chicas: Pretty good, but not worth the money.

Comments: This was my least favorite club, they had a cover charge and a 3 drink minimum purchase. Plus they added the tip into my total check; fuck that place!

Club: Lipstick.

Cover charge: None.

No cover charge, but minimum spending amount: None.

No cover charge, but minimum drink purchase: Two.

Ficha cost: 130 pesos.

Sex with one of the girls: 1600 for 30 minutes.

Sex on site: Yes, I think? This was my last club of the night; things were getting fuzzy.

Number of Chicas: 30-35.

Quality of Chicas: Unknown, but it was the last place on Friday night, and I thought they all looked hot!

Comments: I rolled into this club at around 3 am and really liked the place. It had a raunchy feel to it. Some of the girls were sitting with customers topless, and there was some finger banging going on; I loved the place and the prices! But at that point, I was too fucked up to function period! At least I took notes!

Club: El Galeon.

Cover charge: None.

No cover charge, but minimum spending amount: None.

No cover charge, but minimum drink purchase: 2 drinks.

Ficha cost: 290 pesos.

Sex with one of the girls: 1300 for the room for 1 hour, but you must negotiate the sex price with the chica. I was told the norm was 2000 pesos for 30 to 45 minutes.

Sex on site: Yes.

Number of Chicas: It was early, but I was told 30 to 40 girls worked the weekends.

Quality of Chicas: The ones I saw were either hot, or so-so.

Comments: I got there early on Saturday night, so I really don't have a decent opinion about the place. It seem like a nice club to hang out because of the prices.

Club: Chicas Bar.

Cover charge: None.

No cover charge, but minimum spending amount: None.

No cover charge, but minimum drink purchase: 4 Drinks.

Ficha cost: 120 pesos.

Sex with one of the girls: Room was 800 pesos for 1 hour. The girls quoted me 2500 for 30 minutes.

Sex on site: Yes.

Number of Chicas: It was early, but the manager told me that there was at least 40-50 chicas working on the weekend.

Quality of Chicas: The ones I saw and sat with were a bit older, but hot nevertheless.

Comments: If you walk in early, all the meseros will try to get you to sit in their section. They were not aggressive, but wanted your business. The manager came over and wanted to show me the upstairs rooms, so I followed. The rooms were very roomy and he allowed me to take pictures of the room. I really like this place! BTW, the tip was also added to the final check; that, I didn't like!

Club: California.

Cover charge: None.

No cover charge, but minimum spending amount: None.

No cover charge, but minimum drink purchase: 3 Drinks.

Ficha cost: 120 pesos.

Sex with one of the girls: 2500 for 30 minutes.

Sex on site: I think so?

Number of Chicas: 20-25.

Quality of Chicas: From hot to average.

Comments: I don't remember much about the place, because of all the minimum drink purchases from the other places; but, I urge you to check out the place yourselves.

Club: Cadillac.

Cover charge: None.

No cover charge, but minimum spending amount: None.

No cover charge, but minimum drink purchase: 5 Drinks!

Ficha cost: I fucking forgot.

Sex with one of the girls: 2000 for 30 minutes.

Sex on site: I fucking forget.

Number of Chicas: 30 to 35.

Quality of Chicas: I fucking forgot.

Comments: This was our last stop of the night. This is the club closest to the airport (I think), and it was very busy. But a 5 drink minimum; damn!

Bottom line on the strip clubs: My favorite was Lipstick! I live 20 minutes from Tijuana, and I hear people bitching about 4 dollar drinks and 60-80 bucks for 30 minutes in the top club; Hong Kong. Those folks have no idea how much things really cost in Mexico. After visiting Mexico City and Guadalajara, I can tell you one thing; Tijuana is a lot cheaper!

The last night, Mario told me about a freelancing place called La Victoria in Nueva Esquinas. We were there around 8:30 on a Saturday evening, and there were around four chicas in the place; it was early. We did not chat with any of the chicas, but the place seem to have potential. Just a another place to check out.

Overall thoughts on Guadalajara:

I feel that the street girls were in line with the Mexico City street girls, a little money, but a bunch of fucking limitations and rules. But I could be wrong; wouldn't be the first time.

If you are on a budget, then I think the Estticas are the way to go; if you can find the damn places.

As far as the strip clubs, I thought the prices were outrageous when compared to Tijuana. Yes, there were a bit more options, but the clubs were quite pricy for drinks and chicas.

Either way, I enjoyed my time in the city and felt safe walking and exploring the city.

Would I ever return: I doubt it.

Just my two pesos of course!

[Uncazadorez]

R.A.P.E ESTETICA has some hot babes.

Calzada Lzaro seerdenas 2934, Jardines del Bosque, 44520 Guadalajara, Jal.

Do not be confused that the set up is only a high class men's barber shop because it is not only that.

It has typically a line up of around 10-15 girls and they are all top notch. Not to pricey but worth the quality and the sauna or steam bath is included!

It is about 4 blocks north east of the glorieta Arcos del Milenio (Huge McDonald looking arches) right off of Lazaro Cardenas.

Happy hunting!

[Gallo Ingles]

R.A.P.E ESTETICA has some hot babes.

Not to pricey but worth the quality and the sauna or steam bath is included!

I concur. I visited Rapé a couple of years ago. The quality of the venue is topnotch and the women are gorgeous. Are they still charging $1,400 mn?

[Uncazadorez]

I concur. I visited Rap a couple of years ago. The quality of the venue is topnotch and the women are gorgeous. Are they still charging $1,400 mn?I believe rate is 1,100 MXN pesos, about $67. Not bad very top notch girls and performance is usually very good.

[Scubatoo]

I've never been, had a few days off, and the airfare was very favorable!

First and foremost, I want to thank board members donovan, peewee, IDEAL41, and Artistyp for their help in my 3 night romp....Wow, awesome reporting! Thanks.

[JBotello11]

Going to Guadalajara anyone know where I can get a hold of Mario?

[TomJackin]

Going to Guadalajara anyone know where I can get a hold of Mario?Sent you a PM with the information.

[Tiny 12]

Nice review of the strip clubs Tomjackin. While I haven't stepped foot in the place in years, Lipstick was also my favorite for the price. Glad to hear it's still going strong. And D'Klub, which I visited recently, did indeed suck. I don't know why anybody goes there when Candy's, which has similar prices and lots more attractive women, is so close.

Gagoo, Enjoyed your posts too.

[JBotello11]

So after a long day of travel delays cancellation and so on, I finally arrived to Guadalajara at 3:00 am this morning, With the recommendation of TomJackin, I gave Mario a call, on the way to the hotel we stopped to get some tacos at 3:30 am he was telling me about where to find the chicas. Kinda sucks because I lost a day, anyways woke up this morning and headed to the centro, there was so many gorgeous señoritas all over the place, I fell in love. Over and over again, but from a long previous day I eventually decided to go to a estetica masculina, I got a taxi and on we went. I asked the cab driver to take me to R. A. P. E. But he told me to check out Mediterranean, so off we went. Upon our arrival we went in this parking garage, waited for one of the girls to come to the door and bam, I knew she was the one, she was tall and Has some long sexy legs. But I still checked out the other girls, there was one other that caught my eye, but I had my eye set on the first one, after the girls finished the line up, there were about 7, some were 5 and some 7 but that first one still caught me eye, she told me the price was $700 pesos or $950 for 2 chicas, but since I had my eye set on her off we went. Let me tell you she was amazing for my first girl from Guadalajara. As I left and waited for my taxi to show up, I seen a few guys walk in to see some chicas, I hope they had an awesome experience like I did. Later on tonight I will check out other places, and keep you guys updated.

[Berthegon]

Just come back from Guadalajara; this is a rather modern megalopolis of several million people. You will find all types of people, whiter towards the north / west and indio east / south.

Strip clubs are very expensive so I did not go. On the other hand, I went to almost all esteticas masculinas. I used the Google map estetica masculinas and lugares. It is pretty accurate.

Do not loose your time going to the yellow and purple ones or with a question mark. They are closed. Esteticas masculinas are really good; cheap clean and numerous; all kind of girls; good service.

My favorite are Mediterraneo, high class and Paloma. $300 on average all included.

[JBotello11]

Yes I agree Mediterrano is a very good estetica to visit, really good prices and very good service.


Just come back from Guadalajara; this is a rather modern megalopolis of several million people. You will find all types of people, whiter towards the north / west and indio east / south.

Strip clubs are very expensive so I did not go. On the other hand, I went to almost all esteticas masculinas. I used the Google map estetica masculinas and lugares. It is pretty accurate.

Do not loose your time going to the yellow and purple ones or with a question mark. They are closed. Esteticas masculinas are really good; cheap clean and numerous; all kind of girls; good service.

My favorite are Mediterraneo, high class and Paloma. $300 on average all included.

[JBotello11]

If anyone is ever looking for a nice evening of dancing and live music, check out La Condesa Bar, it's down the street for Las 9 esquinas. I was recommended to this place by Mario the taxi driver. We stopped by and I noticed this beautiful young lady named Perla. I bought her a few beers and we danced most of the night. This place is pretty awesome because I went on a Tuesday and they had live music. I paid for Perlas exit fee which was $500 pesos and we went to hangout at a few awesome spots. First went to Casa Bariachi. They have live mariachis awesome food and bottle service. Our next stop was back at las 9 esquinas, at La Victoria. It's also an awesome bar with live Cumbia tropical music. For a Tuesday there were lots of ladies out that night. We started our adventure at 830 pm and ended up at the hotel sometime around 630 am I had no. Clue what time it was, until I walked out this other girl I took back to my hotel, looked at my watch and realized it was 730 am. I got more to this story but I'm still trying to remember, that's how much fun it was.

[The Parisienne]

Today was not well for me. I could not finish. I'm thinking it might be me experimenting with meds that I bought in Nicaragua. The pharmacies in Granada will sell you anything. In Nica I asked asked the lady what she has for sleep, and besides generic Ambien she showed me 5 other meds. So I bought some of each. I took a Clonazepam about 2 AM. It made me sleep well. But, maybe it is why I couldn't finish today.

I am trying to collect one of each year of the Mexican Silver Libertad coins, a good area for that is Av Lopez Cotilla and Maestranza. Lots of money changers, and they buy and sell silver and gold also.

After that I walked to one of my favorite places to have my late lunch, Jardin De Las 9 Escuinas. Wow, my stomach felt like it was stuffed with rocks. So I wasn't really in the mood, but I know some places are nearby. I wanted to have a peak.

I seen the place called Italia. There were 5 or 6 women there. The only one that Might even consider is. I think the momasan. She said she would go. Service is 350 pesos. I think for 30 minutes. There is a place nearby called Grecia VIP. But I didn't see it. I looked twice. It must be an unmarked door or something.

So, I pick a route to walk to some places, and end up at my hotel where my rental car is. I didn't see the place on the map called nueva Galicia. I then went to Sagitarios. I knew of this place from walking by it many times. But I wasn't sure if it was a place of working ladies. I went it, saw about 6 women. Once again, the only decent woman seemed to be the momasan. I was thinking, she might know how to please a man. She made me too many offers and options to remember. I think if you just want the 30 minute deal it was also 350. You can get all kinds of combos there, same at Italia...Hello Gagoo,

I tried to PM you but your inbox is full, hopping you can help me with some info.

Thanks.

[Bijou]

If anyone is ever looking for a nice evening of dancing and live music, check out La Condesa Bar, it's down the street for Las 9 esquinas. I was recommended to this place by Mario the taxi driver. We stopped by and I noticed this beautiful young lady named Perla. I bought her a few beers and we danced most of the night. This place is pretty awesome because I went on a Tuesday and they had live music. I paid for Perlas exit fee which was $500 pesos and we went to hangout at a few awesome spots. First went to Casa Bariachi. They have live mariachis awesome food and bottle service. Our next stop was back at las 9 esquinas, at La Victoria. It's also an awesome bar with live Cumbia tropical music. For a Tuesday there were lots of ladies out that night. We started our adventure at 830 pm and ended up at the hotel sometime around 630 am I had no. Clue what time it was, until I walked out this other girl I took back to my hotel, looked at my watch and realized it was 730 am. I got more to this story but I'm still trying to remember, that's how much fun it was.Thanks for the info, but is this an estetica or some sort of other bar venue to pick up girls since you "paid for Perlas exit fee which was $500 pesos. "? What are prices quoted by the girls for companionship?

[LaserPure1]

Sent you a PM with the information.Could you forward me the contact information for Mario in Guadalajara please?

I am visiting this week and he sounds very knowledgeable.

Thanks.



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[Sammi123]

R.A.P.E ESTETICA has some hot babes.

Calzada Lzaro seerdenas 2934, Jardines del Bosque, 44520 Guadalajara, Jal.

Do not be confused that the set up is only a high class men's barber shop because it is not only that.

It has typically a line up of around 10-15 girls and they are all top notch. Not to pricey but worth the quality and the sauna or steam bath is included!

It is about 4 blocks north east of the glorieta Arcos del Milenio (Huge McDonald looking arches) right off of Lazaro Cardenas.

Happy hunting!I am going to fairly close by at the Hilton near the expo. Can I safely walk to are. A. PE. ?

What times can find girls there? Is there a post that talks about the process?

Thanks much. Will file a report after I go.

Sam.

[Traveler1170]

Thanks for the info, but is this an estetica or some sort of other bar venue to pick up girls since you "paid for Perlas exit fee which was $500 pesos. "? What are prices quoted by the girls for companionship?+1.

Any information on this bar? I can't find it at all.

[Traveler1170]

After a few failed attempts on my first night in GDL, I stumbled on this place around 1 am.

No cover on Thursday night, but I think there was a 2 drink min. No big deal. I bought 2 vodka / sodas ( 100 pesos each) and reluctantly bought one girl 2 drinks (I like to try take out and give the girl the $$ instead of the club). I say reluctantly because the first girl who sat with me left abruptly when I declined to buy her a drink.

Anyway the girls' drinks were 375? Pesos. Compared to my 100! Anyway. They said if I buy a bottle for 700 - you get a few more drinks out of it (I have no idea how big the bottle would be).

I got one air dance for 200 pesos, (to close the door it is 900- and I am not sure but I thought it was for the same 3 min so I declined) - the reason for the dance was to get the girls' number, which I did.

I sent her a text and she didn't get it, (weird rules for sending a text to a MX number from a US phone) - anyway she went back to the bathroom to check and came out and told me she didn't get the text so I resent it and she did get it.

We agreed on 3000 pesos for dinner / dancing / sex at my hotel later the next day. Anyways after all that. She stood me up the next day. Never responded to text or calls. Total damage in the club was 1025 pesos. Not bad for 2 hours.

In any case most of the girls were very good looking (6-8's) and are willing to sit with you while they drink and no pressure for dances. Also no sex on the premises as far as I know unlike Lipstick (from what I have read) I may check out lipstick tonight.

Anyone else in town and wants to hang let me know.

[Traveler1170]

+1.

Any information on this bar? I can't find it at all.Cantina La Victoria fits the description after some googling and it is just down the street from Birrieria Las 9 Esquinas. Which has awesome and cheap food BTW.

[Traveler1170]

Cantina La Victoria fits the description after some googling and it is just down the street from Birrieria Las 9 Esquinas. Which has awesome and cheap food BTW.It is just north of Birrieria las 9 esquinas.

Live band playing Mexican music.

Went there around 9 on a Friday night.

About 4-5 unattractive women.

Same for Cantina La Victora.

Went to Lipstick and had a much better time. Great thing there is once you buy the drinks for the girl, all the dances are "free" unlike in the US.

Got a few numbers for take out.

Will go back tomorrow. Total damage at Lipstick was $180 USD for about 5 hours.

[JBotello11]

Thanks for the info, but is this an estetica or some sort of other bar venue to pick up girls since you "paid for Perlas exit fee which was $500 pesos. "? What are prices quoted by the girls for companionship?Perlas exit fee was $500 pesos and $1200 pesos for about 7 hrs of companionship.

[JBotello11]

Will be taking another trip down to Guadalajara for some fun, anyone is welcome to tag along just send me a PM, I always have a blast.

[Traveler1170]

Guadalajara trip continues well.

Last night I went to California Club- it's a bit outside Guadalajara but approx 25 min from my hotel near expo and approx 100 pesos by UBER, which is really cheap by US standards.

California club is a square layout with a big central stage. I arrived at 10:30 pm on Saturday. Approximately 5-6 girls that I could see. Most were not as good looking as at lipstick the night before. A pretty thin girl with fair skin and medium length brown hair was brought over and we hit it off well. As others have said, it helps to know Spanish and Although I am not a native speaker, I am passable. Most girls don't speak English at all. Drinks for me were around 75 pesos each and for the girl 240 pesos.

My girl was very friendly. Lots of DFK but she did not get naked at all and no dancing at the table, unlike at lipstick.

She wanted to take me back to the private area. At $2000 for a bottle and $300 for the room (I don't think there is anything else for the girl- she said she gets about $700 of that for herself). My policy is always to give more $$ to the girls by not buying drinks (in the USA. Here drinks are mandatory) and not partaking in the VIP (I feel more comfortable in my own hotel room and also the girl can keep more of the $$ for herself. I asked Her about take out for the next day and in our discussions she indicated that she had a girlfriend and always wanted to try a FMF threesome (she has done some MMF threesomes).

Cost was quoted at $3000 per girl for the night) 10 pm to 6 am. Quite a bargain in USD terms. Again, if your thing is a quick bang at an estetica- that's going to be much cheaper, but I prefer a more prolonged interaction and encounter.

I left about 2. 5 hours later after 4 drinks each. Total damage around 1500- tip was automatically added.

It was still early and I wanted to see if my experience at lipstick the night before could be improved (I had seen a couple of cute chicks the day before that I wanted to meet) - more on that in the next post.

[Traveler1170]

So this is the continuation of my night after California Club.

The night before I had gone to Lipstick and had a decent time.

Hung out with 3 girls that first day- the first 2 were nice, loved that the girls dance and grind continuously and topless the whole time that they sit with you. However the first 2 were not as interactive as I like. The last girl was a bit older but very interactive, loved kissing and I was able to touch her everywhere. First girl and last girl offered take out as I don't partake in the club (my preference). First girl quoted $1500 for an hour. I got her digits but I decided not to partake as I felt it would be too mechanical and timed- and my goal is to have an extended experience outside the club. The second girl was very cute but did not offer any outside work. The third older girl offered take out but I wasn't that interested although I had the most fun with her in the club that night. I had my eye on 2 girls but time was running short and I left. So then I went back the following night after California club.

Having just had a great 2 hour touch and kiss session at California, I liked it but was not happy that the girls at Cali did not do any stripping or dancing at the table. Whereas lipstick had that feature.

I was hoping to see the 2 girls I missed the night before but they didn't work that next day. I got to know the waiter (#16 Emilio) who was very cool and helped find the girls I wanted both nights. So he brought over what he figured to be my type. Thin, but not rail thin, white skin, dark shoulder length hair. Slightly thick but nice butt. Killer smile and eyes which gets me every time.

She only works Fri. And Saturday at the club- seems new at dancing but incredibly fun and cute. Again very interactive, lots of DFK, toward the end I finger banged her and she got wet and came as well. Never pushed me to go back into the VIP, we also hit it off and set up a date for Monday after her regular job.

Total damage around $2000 for about 3. 5 hours of GFE type fun. Again- a bargain from USD perspective as you would never get that level of interaction at a strip club without spending 4-5 x that amount.

So. For my last 2 nights in GDL I have some options lined up for take out- who knows if they will follow through or flake on me.

The girl from praga- from my first night did text me back but wanted to plan for tonight or tomorrow. If all else fails- may have to hit an estetica if all my hard ground work doesn't pay off- even if it doesn't. I can definitely say that GDL has a lot to offer depending on what you are looking for.

[Juan Carter]

All I could find on SexyProvencia about Janeth Rubio was a complaint that her rate went from $1500 to $2500 ($138 US) after her porn film. http://www.xvideos.com/video17363617/janeth_rubio_the_cousin (there is also a Part 2). I nearly splurged the 2500 pesos ($138 US) for an hour with her in CDMX, but she wrote her oral is strictly covered, a deal breaker for me unless she reviews extraordinarily well. She went oral natural in the film. She is scheduling dates in the DF after the ExpoSexo on the 7th and 8th of March.

[Albert Punter]

Part 2 is here http://tubesafari.com/video?id=4_17738119&d=la-prima2.

Very nice face and tits. And the pussy looks so tight.
At the end she takes leche in her mouth. So is surprising she gives CBJ when providing service.

Pity!


All I could find on SexyProvencia about Janeth Rubio was a complaint that her rate went from $1500 to $2500 ($138 US) after her porn film. http://www.xvideos.com/video17363617/janeth_rubio_the_cousin (there is also a Part 2). I nearly splurged the 2500 pesos ($138 US) for an hour with her in CDMX, but she wrote her oral is strictly covered, a deal breaker for me unless she reviews extraordinarily well. She went oral natural in the film. She is scheduling dates in the DF after the ExpoSexo on the 7th and 8th of March and always in GDL her twitter at JANETHLAPRIMA1 or 3312438074.

[GoneFishin]

A potential porstar is Ari Kang. If she is in GDL next week, finally get to try out this part of Mexico. Anyone have a trusted number to a taxista?

[Illogical]

Hello gentlemen,

I'm going to be spending next week in Guadalajara, and I'd like to stay in a decent hotel that still allows female visitors to my room. I've just called a couple of places, and no luck so far. I'm fine with spending up to $150 USD / Night. Suggestions appreciated.

[Old Parr]

Hello gentlemen,

I'm going to be spending next week in Guadalajara, and I'd like to stay in a decent hotel that still allows female visitors to my room. I've just called a couple of places, and no luck so far. I'm fine with spending up to $150 USD / Night. Suggestions appreciated.I stayed in this hotel the previous 2 years and I had no problem. It is a excellent property.

http://www.nh-hotels.com/hotel/nh-collection-guadalajara-providencia

[GoneFishin]

Arrived in GDL on a Monday night and left on Friday, so no weekend experience. Stayed in Centro next to Iglesia Expiatorio via airbnb rental. Paid $31 a night plus fees for a 3 bedroom house. I enjoyed the area as it was close to many popular esteticas and historical sights. Lots of street food close by and Univ. De GDL, so lots of young people hanging around with the usual college bars, cafes and such. This city being the 2nd largest in Mexico is worlds apart from DF. Less traffic, pollution are a big plus. At night you can breeze through the city as most streets are empty. There is no late night action concentrated in one area like Tijuana. It's all spread out with some esteticas but mostly strip clubs (table) and freelance bars. Daytime is all esteticas and I used the map previously mentioned to walk to some of them from my centro location. The strip clubs descriptions in other posts are spot on but not my idea of money well spent. I kept my action to esteticas and freelance bars. As stated before the people here are lighter skinned. The climate is warm in the sun but cool in the shade and at night.

I agree with what's been posted before but will include my thoughts as well. To me the quality of chica did not change much from the popular cheaper to more expensive locations. The expensive locations are generally larger, modern facilities in the trendy part of town with hour of service. The quality cheaper locations I found to be clean and well managed and staffed with something for everyone with 30 min of service. The deed is done on a massage table or some type of chair is also present not the best scenario but that is what's legal here. I usually used the chair to do perrito rather than having the chica find the right angle to gain access against the table. All the good places have good shower with hot water and nice towels some have beverages to add to your bill. The higher end places tended to have more enhanced chicas than the cheaper places. Below are the ones I visited and prices seem to have gone up a little from what's on the map.

Estiticas:

Sagitarious / Alexander sister locations but both had all fugleys.

Vedetter 390/30 min nice selection before 1 pm is discounted.

Danny's 470/30 min nice selection discount for the hora.

Mediterraneo / Alcala sister locations 540/30 min quite a few enhanced some doable.

Palomas 540/30 min quite a few enhanced, did not see anything I liked.

[CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) 1500/60 min nice selection. You will be asked to provide fecha drink to chica, mine only wanted a red bull Nice seafood place across the street. Next to highway not much around walking distance. Maybe have them call you a taxi.

Hobbie Inn 1200/60 min and provides service till 3 am. Went here every night around 1 am always had 2 to 6 chicas all doable for me.

Barba Azul 1200/60 min before 3 pm very few chicas. Nice neighborhood to walk around in, bank on corner.

Freelance bars:

Went to both La Condesa / La Victoria cantinas and both had live music till early morning hours. La Victoria is darker and music much louder so I preferred La Condesa. Chicas were mostly older in La Condesa and younger in La Victoria. Good spread of characteristics in both. I could have pulled some from either place. The girls seem to have fun and generally enjoy the night out with you. They are there to party though and may or may not leave with you. Depends on connection you obtain. Multa is 500 pesos as mentioned.

Another place closer to my rented casa is El Tapitio, basically the corner of Federalismo (on this street #412 I believe) and Ave La Paz. Same scenario, live music and chicas of all stripes. Well lit place and music not to loud. Found one chica I liked but place was closing down at 230 am so did not have time for that connection Will try again.

Ari Kang, I contacted via whatsapp, it took her a few days but she replied that she will not be in GDL during my stay. I think a lot of these popular chicks are in DF for the sex convention.

[Bijou]

Freelance bars:

Went to both La Condesa / La Victoria cantinas and both had live music till early morning hours. La Victoria is darker and music much louder so I preferred La Condesa. Chicas were mostly older in La Condesa and younger in La Victoria. Good spread of characteristics in both. I could have pulled some from either place. The girls seem to have fun and generally enjoy the night out with you. They are there to party though and may or may not leave with you. Depends on connection you obtain. Multa is 500 pesos as mentioned.

Another place closer to my rented casa is El Tapitio, basically the corner of Federalismo (on this street #412 I believe) and Ave La Paz. Same scenario, live music and chicas of all stripes. Well lit place and music not to loud. Found one chica I liked but place was closing down at 230 am so did not have time for that connection Will try again.

Ari Kang, I contacted via whatsapp, it took her a few days but she replied that she will not be in GDL during my stay. I think a lot of these popular chicks are in DF for the sex convention.Great info GoneFishin. Good to know that there are freelance places in GDL since most of the info reported on this board is the esteticas and strip clubs. I couldn't find any of the freelance places on the most recent GDL map. Could you give more details regarding location, and an idea of how much girls would be willing to go for after paying the 500 peso multa (If you got into those discussions with any of the chicas). Also, are all the girls freelancers or this a mix of and freelancers and "regular girls" (and so one must be a little more tactical in approaching a chica)?

[GoneFishin]

El Tapatio. Calz del Federalismo Nte 412, Zona Centro.

La Condesa Cantina. Av Cristobal Colóand 310, Zona Centro.

Victoria Cantina. Same street a block apart as above.

Both La Condesa / Victoria are in the area of Plaza de LOS 9 Esquinas.

The girls drinks are fechas as well but much less than at the strip clubs. They are there to drink with you and make some cash from you buying them drinks. Connection is required. I only saw freelancers at all three. Later in the week the prettier ones come out. I took one out of El Tapatio for 1000 pesos for a few hours of play. Did not spend enough time connecting with others as I am not a big drinker or dancer. These girls want to party and not leave directly with you. I had some ask me to take them somewhere else to drink / dance then who knows.

My earlier post they coded out the name of a high end estetica that cost 1500, its on the map and the name is equivalent to violence against women, just FYI.

[Illogical]

On the recommendation of a friend, I went to Candy's last night (Wednesday). I got there fairly early, around 8:30 PM or so. Didn't stay long, because I didn't spot a single girl without bolt-ONS. Really not my thing at all. For the most part they had great bodies and pretty faces, but the silicone is just a major turn-off for me.

[GoneFishin]

The high end stripper places are mostly chicas with upgrades although you can find some naturals. For the price point I can't justify it.

The 2 stripper places in the title cost less and mostly naturals. Chica Bar is a little out of town so don't be worried if your in the taxi a long time. Its by the major bus terminal.

GF.

[Illogical]

Went by La Victoria. Told the waiter that I'm a gringo who speaks almost no Spanish, and he went and talked to someone I think was the manager. Manager (brought a beautiful girl who speaks a tiny bit of English over to sit with me.

So, I sat with a lovely girl for about an hour, bought her two drinks (damage was about twenty bucks US), had an amusing conversation with some help from a translation program, and got her number. Band wasn't bad, not too loud for me.

I'll probably try a few more cantinas tomorrow.

[GoneFishin]

The 2 stripper places in the title cost less and mostly naturals.Not sure what happened but the names are El Chica Bar and El Galleon.

GF.

[Illogical]

I stayed in this hotel the previous 2 years and I had no problem. It is a excellent property.

http://www.nh-hotels.com/hotel/nh-collection-guadalajara-providenciaI stayed at their new location, in the centro historico. No issues here either, but I only had ladies come over in the middle of the day. Not sure if it would be the same late at night.

[Illogical]

Well, the chica I met at La Victoria flaked on me, which was quite disappointing. Lovely face, nice body, but I already know better than to keep trying after a planned meeting falls through the first time. I negotiated pretty hard, and got her down to a pretty good price, so I suspect she was trying to keep me in reserve while looking for higher-paying customers.

[MeloMonger]

Street meat.

Went to calle Hidalgo and Agua Fria (behind the Paris hotel) several times.

Certainly the time of day is important. Between the hours of 10 AM and 7 PM are the best hours.

Did not bit on any here. The best I seen was maybe 7 ish. All others were 3 - 6. I did ask the price here. The hotel room is 100 and the cobra is 200 - 300 depending on the chica.

Went to Calle Gran Villa Gomez and Huerto. It is near calz independencia and Call Francisco.

This is the place to go, but respect the hours unless you want a fugly, TV or gay. Between 10 AM and 7 PM are the best hours. On Saturday at 11:30 AM I nailed a 9!

Incredibly the cost was lower 70 for the room and 250 for the Chica. In the end the chica said any position for 600 (still quite reasonable) I took the 2 extra position option at 450 and tipped a 50 to make it an even 500. Well worth it. The rooms were clean. Chit I even watched a little porn with one of them.

The worst I seen in this spot was a 6. All others were 7 - 9. I bit on 3 in this spot. All 3 were and 8 or 9.

Estechas.

RAP.

Add an E to the end for the full name.

Cost was 1500 pesos.

Did not bite. I did see 1 girl that looked like a 9 all day. 1500 quite a bargain for the USA but was too steep considering the other options. It did include a sauna, massage and happy ending The place looked really clean.

Dannys.

Only 2 were available. They said all others were busy. Both available were 5 or 6 at best. The said I could wait, but I didn't and went to Vandette.

Vandette.

4 were available. 2 were a 6 the other 2 were 7's so I picked one!

1/2 hour was 400. Included massage, relation and a shower. I tipped 200 and got a BBBJ! Nice.

[Gagoo]

Hello Gagoo,

I tried to PM you but your inbox is full, hopping you can help me with some info.

Thanks.Sorry, I didn't know that. I think I have been a member about 15-18 years, but I have a low postings count.

I usually only look at the forum when I am about to travel, or actually monger not a new area.

I'll empty my inbox now. I'm currently in Tijuana looking for something other than the common places.

[JBotello11]

If anyone is looking for an awesome tour guide, feel free to contact Mario. He is very knowledgeable about many locations to find chicas. Whether you are looking for strip clubs, bars, esteticas, SW, whatever you are looking for. I have his number if anyone is interested. Feel free to PM me and remember you must have a subscription to PM. I'm looking forward to going again here very soon.

[JBotello11]

Hope you guys like these pics, just a few of the chicas I met with Mario back early January.

[Gagoo]

El Tapatio. Calz del Federalismo Nte 412, Zona Centro.

La Condesa Cantina. Av Cristobal Coland 310, Zona Centro.

Victoria Cantina. Same street a block apart as above.

Both La Condesa / Victoria are in the area of Plaza de LOS 9 Esquinas.

The girls drinks are fechas as well but much less than at the strip clubs. They are there to drink with you and make some cash from you buying them drinks. Connection is required. I only saw freelancers at all three. Later in the week the prettier ones come out. I took one out of El Tapatio for 1000 pesos for a few hours of play. Did not spend enough time connecting with others as I am not a big drinker or dancer. These girls want to party and not leave directly with you. I had some ask me to take them somewhere else to drink / dance then who knows.

My earlier post they coded out the name of a high end estetica that cost 1500, its on the map and the name is equivalent to violence against women, just FYI.I went on to El Tapatio once last year. I stayed at a hotel nearby and I walked by this place many times. I always did my business in Guadalajara during the day, but I would wander around at night. I couldn't quite figure out the scheme at El Tapatio. But I figured the ladies were freelancers, and some would go with you, and some might not.

I really just wanted to have a few drinks so I could catch a good buzz and go to my hotel and sleep. Well, I wanted to see what some places are also. I could tell you could buy women drinks and they would sit with you, and dance, and stuff like that. I was approached by a few women during the night, but I said no in a friendly way. I also had the servers ask me if I want a woman. I just keep having drinks and if I remember right they had a live band, so I was watching them also. I seen many older me with some decent looking ladies, that were only with them because they were buying drinks. But this place didn't seem like the women would drink her drink fast and ask for another drink. The women were really hanging out and having fun, and making money from the drinks you buy. I think for sure I could have gotten one of them to go boom boom at my hotel.

My memory is terrible. But there is a strip club near the Hotel Paris that I banged a girl at, late at night.

[Juan Carter]

Went to Calle Gran Villa Gomez and Huerto. It is near calz independencia and Call Francisco.
This is the place to go, but respect the hours unless you want a fugly, TV or gay. Between 10 AM and 7 PM are the best hours. On Saturday at 11:30 AM I nailed a 9!
Incredibly the cost was lower 70 for the room and 250 for the Chica. In the end the chica said any position for 600 (still quite reasonable) I took the 2 extra position option at 450 and tipped a 50 to make it an even 500. Well worth it. The rooms were clean I even watched a little porn with one of them.
The worst I seen in this spot was a 6. All others were 7 - 9. I bit on 3 in this spot. All 3 were and 8 or 9.
Thanks for the report but horrible directions. Melo means the intersection of Calle Huerto and Calle Gral. Villa Gomez. This is at Calz. Independencia and two blocks south of Av. Juarez. It is just south of the centro historico, an easy walk.

[Illogical]

Hi all,

Returning to GDL in the next month or so, and this time I think I'd like to try staying in Tlaquepaque. Any hotel suggestions appreciated.

[Gagoo]

I just wrote a long report and. It disappeared. So here is a short version.

I've been to the Men's Paradise many times in the last couple years. I went today and my favorite ladies aren't working there t the moment. They seem to work on and off. There were only 2 women available, perhaps others were busy. The price is 1,200 pesos for an hour.

The new girl I tried today named Violeta is a 22 year old local. She's really good looking. Her only minus is she had a baby 3 years ago and she looks like she breastfed a lot. She is a little self conscious of her boobs. The rest of her body is nice. The gave a covered BJ, I'm not sure if I could have asked not to use it, then she fucked me enthusiasticly and we had a lot of good kissing. I wanted to try her doggy style but she didn't stop quick enough when I wanted her to stop and I finished.

When she got off of me we found out the condom broke. At first she thought maybe I didn't cum and she showed me another condom, then I had to use Google translator to explain I came inside her. She wasn't worried though, I told her I'm clean, and she said she will need to take a pill tonight. I might return within the next few days so I can try her doggy, she looked pretty nice back there. Since I already came inside her, maybe she will be better next time. Or at least no condom for a BJ.

My hotel isn't far away and I keep walking past Oasis, and they seem to have a lot of cars parked in front of it after normal working hours. Probably guys stopping by after work, before going home to their wives. I'll stop by Oasis tomorrow and have a look. There appears to be two suspicious places across the street from Oasis also. I'll have a closer look at those places tomorrow.

[Gagoo]

I see this place on Google Maps, and not too far from my hotel. On the wikisexguide it is referenced as a strip club.

They have a website www.themensclub.com.mx.

It looks like a very high end club with ladies and fancy food.

Anybody know much about this place? I imagine it is an expensive option.

[Gagoo]

I went to Oasis. But I was rather late. I arrived about 15 minutes before they closed. When I walked in I didn't get a choice or anything. I did see one other girl, but she headed towards another room. I can't even remember her name anymore. It was one of those names that I never heard before.

I wasn't happy that I didn't get to see a line up of girls, but the girl that I got was good looking so I went along with it. Price there is 1,200 pesos. She was 21 years old and looked like she had a nice body. After she said she was 21 I asked if she had any kids while she is massaging me. She said she had 6 kids. I was thinking my Spanish is really bad, or she is joking. But she wasn't joking. She has 3 girls and 3 boys. I was thinking WTF? 21 years old and 6 kids. Wow!

I was expecting nasty tits, but her tits were actually really nice. And she had a nice ass. But she still had her dress over her tummy. I wasn't going to believe she had 6 kids if her tummy looked good. Her stomach was flat but she had the stretch marks. Anyways, service was just OK. Not special. I kept thinking 6 kids in my head while I was fucking her, and I lost interest. She was one of those rare girls that looks at your soft did and says something like, it's not working. But she didn't try very hard to fix that problem. But. I was a little tired from walking a lot and the weather is currently in the mid 90's. This place and Men's Paradise do not have AIRCON. And with this hot weather, I would avoid those places.

My time there probably would have been better if I shown up much earlier, and also had a choice, and if they had AIRCON.

[Saleen123]

I'm going to be staying in Guadalajara for a week or so towards the end of September for a conference and I've never been to the area. I'm not very experienced in traveling around Mexico, so I'm not sure how comfortable I feel going out, but these esteticas masculinas sound interesting. However, I'd probably be more interested in spending some time with some high level escorts. I'm willing to pay upwards of $500 USD per hour, but for that rate she certainly has to offer a lot. I'm very much into the Mexican women but prefer ones with thick thighs and backsides like Sophia Castello. Can anyone recommend any women, agencies, or locals that can help steer me in the right direction before I travel? I've done some searching online, but considering it'll be my first time there, I don't know what ads or people to trust. Any help would be a super big help.

Thanks!

Saleen

[GoneFishin]

No need to spend that much for escort service. Its pretty standard at 2000 pesos HR or 1. 5 hrs depending on escort. I find many on twitter. Twitter just search GDL and escort. Stay away from "skorts" ads they are all fake pics. One I recommend is Ariel at https://www.facebook.com/arielitaty/.

She is a MILF type put knows her profession and has her own vehicle and well priced for the service. Will join you for dinner afterwards if she has time.

I enjoy GDL alot and still have more reports to add but slow at getting the reports in.

GF.

[Tiny 12]

I'm going to be staying in Guadalajara for a week or so towards the end of September for a conference and I've never been to the area. I'm not very experienced in traveling around Mexico, so I'm not sure how comfortable I feel going out, but these esteticas masculinas sound interesting. However, I'd probably be more interested in spending some time with some high level escorts. I'm willing to pay upwards of $500 USD per hour, but for that rate she certainly has to offer a lot. I'm very much into the Mexican women but prefer ones with thick thighs and backsides like Sophia Castello. Can anyone recommend any women, agencies, or locals that can help steer me in the right direction before I travel? I've done some searching online, but considering it'll be my first time there, I don't know what ads or people to trust. Any help would be a super big help.

Thanks!

SaleenI've used this site in Mexico City and was happy with the results: https://www.zonadivas.com/principal.html.

Click on the Guadalajara tab in blue lettering near the top. Since your date "has to offer a lot", be sure and check out the reviews by clicking on "Foro-Elite" in orange lettering. Finally, note at the bottom of the Guadalajara page that there's a listing of women "proximamente en Guadalajara." You can use that to select traveling escorts that will be there when you are.

There's some photoshopping, but the women in the photos are the ones who provide the services and they're mostly independents. Or at least that's what my limited experience leads me to believe.

[FunkGuy]

Hello,

I going soon to GDL. Can anybody share any contacts of chicas, escorts from their experience? How about contact of that cab guy Mario?

Thanks in advance.

[GoneFishin]

Several trips to GDL now under my belt, I can add to this discussion again. With the help of Mario (taxi +52 1 33 1511 6236) and my own explorations my 2 cents is as follows:

Freelance bars:

El Tapitio is now closed. A shame I just started to enjoy it here.

Victoria / Condessa bars are still going strong. Took a street pickup to Victoria and we both had a great time dancing. I was terrible but was fun as the club is dark and who cares, right? Best bars for gringos I believe.

La Rumba on Prisciliomo Sanchez with Maestranza, some talent, very local, lower strata patrons.

La Cuesta on Revolucion, more talent, very local, lower strata patrons.

Strip (Table) bars:

Diana's on Juan de Dios Robledo, skinny girls here mostly which was different. Prices are moderate.

Titanic on Ramon Corona, many pretty ones the night I went. Prices are moderate.

Chica bar, made a mistake and bought a bottle thinking I could share with the girls as I don't drink to get drunk. Doh, chica drinks are always extra. Best lineup in my opinion but can't get into that sex on nasty sofa. Do they every clean it? Maybe if I brought my own wipes.

Pussy Cat night club at Juan de Dios Robledo 1054 is my new offical favorite. Found it my last night so only looked around. Very local and more like Ejectivo in Medellin. Lots of girls of all types and drunks but with the best price for the bang I've found in town. Will explore more next time I come back.

Twitter:

Contacted several independent escorts this way. Most post real photos and communicate via whatsapp. Several charge less for service at trusted love motels. All wanted to charge me more for service in my place. Search words I used were GDL and escort. Skorts have many adds but all use fake pics and seemed more hardened to me.

Mario had set up some meets from girls he talks to on the street. Just tip him and the girls are happy with 500 to 1000 for a few hours or the night if you hit it off. I use his airport pickup service as well as he charges 280. Its 350 from airport sanctioned taxis to centro area. Took one of the girls I enjoy to a water park. There are 2 in the area but some distance outside of GDL. It's a full day and Mario can take you as well.

GF.

[Old Parr]

Several trips to GDL now under my belt, I can add to this discussion again. With the help of Mario (taxi +52 1 33 1511 6236) and my own explorations my 2 cents is as follows:

Freelance bars:

El Tapitio is now closed. A shame I just started to enjoy it here.

Victoria / Condessa bars are still going strong. Took a street pickup to Victoria and we both had a great time dancing. I was terrible but was fun as the club is dark and who cares, right? Best bars for gringos I believe.

La Rumba on Prisciliomo Sanchez with Maestranza, some talent, very local, lower strata patrons.

La Cuesta on Revolucion, more talent, very local, lower strata patrons.

Strip (Table) bars:

Diana's on Juan de Dios Robledo, skinny girls here mostly which was different. Prices are moderate.

Titanic on Ramon Corona, many pretty ones the night I went. Prices are moderate..Very nice post and very appreciated! Happy to hear you are having good times!

[Saleen123]

Very nice post and very appreciated! Happy to hear you are having good times!Thanks for the information. Does Mario have an email? How far in advance do you call him prior to your trip? I'd like to give him a heads up on the type of women I'm hoping to spend some time with and maybe get some advice from him on places to check out for food and other activities nearby.

Thanks,

Saleen

[GoneFishin]

Thanks for the information. Does Mario have an email? How far in advance do you call him prior to your trip? I'd like to give him a heads up on the type of women I'm hoping to spend some time with and maybe get some advice from him on places to check out for food and other activities nearby.

Thanks,

SaleenI usually contact him via whatsapp, do not have email, the day I arrive. No need to do things in advance as what chicas are available change daily and cannot really be scheduled like a date. Its more like try what's available at the time your going out.

[Johnny Drama]

Gents. If you haven't been to GDL, you better get down here quick. Not even taking cost into consideration (and it's cheap here) this may be one of my favorite p4 p destinations so far.

I'm booked at the Demetria, which has been trouble free with girls so far (it's also a beautiful hotel). So, my Friday night visit was from a super tiny spinner from Colombia named Karina.

Karina.

Phone: +52 (1) 3312235034 (contact via Whatsapp).

Languages: I used google translate over whatsapp but when she arrived I found out she pretty much speaks perfect english.

Day Job: apparently a nurse.

Hometown: Medellin.

Age: 20 (doesn't look a day over 18).

Weight: 100 lbs, tops (probably closer to 90).

Cost: 1 HR (1250) 1. 5 (1600) 2 (1900).

Body: 10 (if you like spinners like me).

Face: 9.

Performance: 10 (incredibly sensual and sloppy BBBJ).

GFE: 100% (very much a theme with the independents in GDL so far).

Anal: on tap, but not my thing (believe it's an extra $1 k pesos).

Photos Attached (full disclosure I scrapped these from the local forum where I found her reviews).

Connie.

Phone: +52 (1) 3315281105 (contact via Whatsapp).

Languages: English not as good as Karina, but good enough for plenty of pillow talk before and after.

Day Job: p4 p. Also shot with Torbe and has a couple vids online.

Hometown: GDL.

Age: 27.

Weight: 105 ish (not as tiny as Karina but still a perfect spinner in my book).

Cost: 1 HR (1000) 2 (1500).

Body: 9 (doc'd a point for a couple burns / scar areas on her back).

Face: 8. 5 (horrendous teeth but she has braces now to try and correct).

Performance: 10 (tough to beat Karina but Connie and I had something special).

GFE: 100%.

Anal: not sure, didn't ask.

Photos Attached (full disclosure I scrapped these from the local forum where I found her reviews):

I'm here until Wednesday and will try and report back on any additional visits. I never contacted Mario, but have been using Uber exclusively and it's worked incredibly well (and super cheap).

Any questions feel free to ask.

Best.

Drama.

[Saleen123]

This is great info. Thanks.

I'm thinking about staying at the Hilton near the expo center in GDL since I'm visiting for a convention right at expo center. Does anyone know if I'll have any problems inviting women to the hotel? I'd like to stay close to the expo but definitely want to make sure I can invite some of these women to my room.

Thanks.

[Juan Carter]

Gents. If you haven't been to GDL, you better get down here quick. Not even taking cost into consideration (and it's cheap here) this may be one of my favorite p4 p destinations so far. full disclosure I scrapped these from the local forum where I found her reviews Thanks for a great review. I now must visit GDL again. Can I assume that Connie's was also BBBJ? I found her on the http://sexxxyprovincia.forumfree.it/?t=72200855 . She posts that she dances at the Luxor. Is she the same aka Andrea Neri (below photo) at Xvideos.com ?

[Johnny Drama]

Thanks for a great review. I now must visit GDL again. Can I assume that Connie's was also BBBJ? I found her on the http://sexxxyprovincia.forumfree.it/?t=72200855 . She posts that she dances at the Luxor. Is she the same aka Andrea Neri (below photo) at Xvideos.com ?That's definitely her! Such a nice woman guys, treat her well and she will take excellent care of you. And yes, to answer your question, she provides a BBBJ, which I believe is pretty standard with most of the independents in the city. I can't comment on the walk-in joints as that's not my thing, but this is an excellent town for outcall in my experience.

Sorry I didn't have a chance to post additional visits. I got caught up with work and didn't have an opportunity to partake beyond Karina / Connie. It's rare you go 2 for 2 with total GFE's at such a sweet price point.

Happy Hunting.

Drama.

[Johnny Drama]

This is great info. Thanks.

I'm thinking about staying at the Hilton near the expo center in GDL since I'm visiting for a convention right at expo center. Does anyone know if I'll have any problems inviting women to the hotel? I'd like to stay close to the expo but definitely want to make sure I can invite some of these women to my room.

Thanks.I can't comment on this particular property but I get the feeling this is a pretty big p4 p town. Even the doorman / security at my hotel was offering to call me girls after I walked mine out to the car following a session. I always met them on the street however and directly to my room, but no trouble whatsoever.

Drama.

[Juan Carter]

Connie. Phone: +52 (1) 3315281105 (contact via Whatsapp). Languages: English not as good as Karina, but good enough for plenty of pillow talk before and after. Weight: 105 ish (not as tiny as Karina but still a perfect spinner in my book).
Cost: 1 HR (1000) 2 (1500). Body: 9 (doc'd a point for a couple burns / scar areas on her back). Face: 8. 5 (horrendous teeth but she has braces now to try and correct). Performance: 10 (tough to beat Karina but Connie and I had something special).
GFE: 100%. Photos Attached (full disclosure I scrapped these from the local forum where I found her reviews) Thanks to Johnny Drama, my next trip will be to GDL and Connie Garcia http://sexxxyprovincia.forumfree.it/?t=72200855 will be at the top of my list. She does a live sex show with Bella of BellayBestia fame at the Luxor Louvre. It is evidently a swinger club but its webpage says single guys are welcome weekends and there seemingly is a glory hole. There is a terrific video of the place on Youtube (of all places) titled La Visita a un Club Swinger, Swinger Club Guadalajara.

Connie performs there under the name Andrea Neri and her videos are on Xvideos.com under that name. She had a Facebook page under that name and a couple of twitter pages twitter.com/AndreaNeri_cdt and twitter.com/AndreaNeriModel .

Thank you Johnny!

[Jasoonnn]

Thanks to Johnny Drama, my next trip will be to GDL and Connie Garcia http://sexxxyprovincia.forumfree.it/?t=72200855 will be at the top of my list. She does a live sex show with Bella of BellayBestia fame at the Luxor Louvre. It is evidently a swinger club but its webpage says single guys are welcome weekends and there seemingly is a glory hole. There is a terrific video of the place on Youtube (of all places) titled La Visita a un Club Swinger, Swinger Club Guadalajara.

Connie performs there under the name Andrea Neri and her videos are on Xvideos.com under that name. She had a Facebook page under that name and a couple of twitter pages twitter.com/AndreaNeri_cdt and twitter.com/AndreaNeriModel .

Thank you Johnny!I have had the pleasure of being with Connie while I was in GDL and she is all that is mentioned here. Apparently she got burned on her back while cooking, so hopefully itll heal up soon. She really is good at what she does. And if I remember correctly, it was 1500 pesos ($80 USD) for 2 hours.

[MassageDealMA]

This is great info. Thanks.

I'm thinking about staying at the Hilton near the expo center in GDL since I'm visiting for a convention right at expo center. Does anyone know if I'll have any problems inviting women to the hotel? I'd like to stay close to the expo but definitely want to make sure I can invite some of these women to my room.

Thanks.There is no problem bringing a girl to the room.

[WorldTravel14]

I have been visiting here since 2013 for business and a lot of play. Since Guadalajara doesn't have the the amount of intel of other destinations like Tijuana or Medellin, I felt the need to write a more thorough and up to date review of the many options available. That way a reader can determine if this city is a place worth visiting. I've been coming here for the past few years and like anywhere you can get great bang for you buck if you know where to look. At least a basic understanding of Spanish is a must because few chicas will speak English at all. Take advantage of the falling peso currently at 18.5 to the dollar. Everything is super cheap right now and that means more money to spend on you know what!

Getting Here.

Cheap flights from the US can be found using Volaris airlines, they have discounted flights often and you can sign up for a email newsletter to know when there is a special sale. I personally recommend once landing getting a Telcel sim & plan because having a phone is a huge plus that needs no explanation. Plus the data plans and sim are very cheap. As far as getting around, Uber has been in Guadalajara for a few years and it is super Cheap. I have averaged my rides and it comes out to around $1 for every 5 miles. The company is just as organized as using Uber in the US, very professional drivers with nice and new cars. Plus I have found that there are many drivers available at all times of day. Just make sure to change your cell number in the Uber settings to the one you are using in GDL or else they won't be able to call you if they need to. As far as places to stay, I have stayed at both hotels and airbnb rentals, so do what what works best for you. Since the P4P scene isn't big here, you won't have any problems bringing guests up to your room. Just walk in as if you are a couple and no one will even bat a eye. Some airbnb rentals are very strict when it comes to additional guests so make sure to double check beforehand.

Girls.

Well the most important part of this post, right? You have many options in the sense that there all skin and body types. Women from Guadalajara are known in Mexico for their beauty. You will find pretty much whatever you are into. From green eyed blondes to brown skin curvy women. There are also your share of women with implants if that's your thing too. But if you go to a real cheap place in Centro, you will find several gorditas that you won't want anything to do with!

Esteticas vs Escorts vs Casitas.

So these are your three main options are far as P4P goes here. I am not including SW's because I don't do it as there is no need to here. For someone who has never been to an estetica, it is basically a business that will show you a line up of women in a lounge setting. You choose which one you like and they will go over the price / time options. If none of them are to your liking just say "no gracias, adios" and go on to the next one. There are esteticas all over so be patient and shop around. Some of the higher end places accept credit cards, but I recommend to pay in pesos to get the best deal. Now many esteticas may have a barbershop set up in the front too so don't walk away if you see just that. The action is in the back! But you can still get a good priced haircut if you need one. Now I have been to quite a few esteticas here, from the higher end ones to the cheaper options. The most priciest one has been discussed on this forum before, it is four letters, starts with a are & ends with a E, is very popular but I don't recommend it. First of all they have a great selection of women, but they are known to be mechanical & don't give any GFE. I did get a great cheap haircut there but didn't feel it was worth spending $1200 pesos for 1 hour.

Another well known estetica I've been to is called Mediterraneo. This place is half the price at 640 pesos, the majority of the women there have implants so if that's your thing, this is your place. The rooms are small but clean and with a shower. I had a good time with a nice girl named Jazmin and felt it was worth 640 pesos. She is short with well done implants and willing to do anything! I went back a few days later and this time chose a nice full figured beauty named Michelle. She had a great attitude, offered GFE and I would definitely return to spend time with her. Mediterraneo is an estetica known for having a large selection of women with implants so avoid it if that's not your thing. I will post reviews of some other esteticas I've been to when I get a chance.

I really think casitas have been untapped by guys visiting because esteticas get all the press. Casitas are not as known to people visiting but are real popular with the locals for a few reasons. The first being of course the price is cheap, they are basically budget esteticas. The set price is 250 for 30 min / 500 for 1 HR. Most of the casitas are older homes and have not been well maintained, are dirty and cramped. But some guys prefer them because they are nondescript, usually hidden on quieter streets or in alleys and it looks like you are going into a house. Plus you can find some nice gems in there too! You will find a mix of young college hottie's, middle aged MILFS, and some women who are past their prime! But for the price you can't beat it. I have went to one that a fellow local monger recommended me and I had a great time for roughly $27 (500 pesos). I don't remember the chicas name but there was a nice selection of ladies and the place looked as nice as some esteticas I have visited. I liked the fact that the rooms were huge and set up more like a hotel room. I will be going back there next month and will post more detailed info and hopefully some pictures.

Now as far as escorts, there are some nice ones to be had but quality women are going to cost at least 1000 pesos for a hour. If not more. The only escorts I have dealt with are ones that work during the day in esteticas and are independents at night. You can try to bargain but I have never had a quality chica charge less than 800 pesos a hour. You can do a Google search for the top escort agencies in the city. I do not drink so I don't have any information on the nightclubs or strip clubs. If anyone has any questions feel free to post them here or send me a PM.

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[Bijou]

I really think casitas have been untapped by guys visiting because esteticas get all the press. Casitas are not as known to people visiting but are real popular with the locals for a few reasons. The first being of course the price is cheap, they are basically budget esteticas. The set price is 250 for 30 min / 500 for 1 HR. Most of the casitas are older homes and have not been well maintained, are dirty and cramped. But some guys prefer them because they are nondescript, usually hidden on quieter streets or in alleys and it looks like you are going into a house. Plus you can find some nice gems in there too! You will find a mix of young college hottie's, middle aged MILFS, and some women who are past their prime! But for the price you can't beat it. I have went to one that a fellow local monger recommended me and I had a great time for roughly $27 (500 pesos). I don't remember the chicas name but there was a nice selection of ladies and the place looked as nice as some esteticas I have visited. I liked the fact that the rooms were huge and set up more like a hotel room. I will be going back there next month and will post more detailed info and hopefully some pictures.Good info WT14. What is the best way to find the casitas? I think there is a GDL mongering map on this board that has one or two listed, but it's always good to know of others that are recommended.

[WorldTravel14]

Good info WT14. What is the best way to find the casitas? I think there is a GDL mongering map on this board that has one or two listed, but it's always good to know of others that are recommended.Glad I can be of some help. The best casita I've been to was actually being renovated when I left last week. The owner said they will be closed for at least 2- 3 weeks to make some upgrades to the private rooms & bathrooms. It is located in centro like many of the casitas in a quiet alley, the street name is real long and starts with a 'see'. I was taken there by a taxi driver I befriended. When I go back in August I will get the exact address and try to take some pictures.

I usually find out about the casitas through word of mouth, like asking a male employee at the hotel or especially a taxi driver where he goes for P4P. Because the fact of the matter is many of them can't afford paying mid-high end estetica prices. I have found taxi drivers here to be very helpful. The only thing is they speak hardly any English and that may be a challenge for some mongers. Just mention to the taxi driver after some small talk; "quiero ir a una casita, no una estetica por favor. Conoces una?" (I want to go to a casita, not an estetica please. Do you know of one? Recently many taxi drivers in GDL have been financially hurt by the dominance of Uber. So they have created a special set discount price of 50 peso rides ($2. 75 usd) anywhere within the city limits. You will see a huge $50 written on the taxis windshield. That is a great price because GDL can be real spread out for visitors. You can also have the taxista wait outside the casita in case you want to check out another or to pick you up after an accomplished mission!

And just to be clear, although you can find 7's and above at casitas, they are in older looking homes, that although are clean, they are not well maintained aesthetically like a good estetica is. They will have no signs outside to clue you in as to what is inside. Many of them even looked abandoned from the outside and I thought I was at the wrong place. But they always have a doorbell so just ring it and see what happens!!

Also, the casitas clientele are pretty much 100% Mexican so don't let them charge you a gringo tax. The prices should average $250/30 min or $500/1 HR. There are two casitas just a few blocks away from another on the map I have attached in the Santa Teresita neighborhood. The first one I went to was on Manuel Acuna street had no girls available so they told me I could either wait 30 minutes or check out their competition down the street. I walked for a few blocks and found the other casita around the corner on Gregorio Davila street which had a decent selection of chicas there. I chose a solid 7 named Jennifer who was pretty, had a nice firm body, offered GFE and was super friendly. The room was clean, had a decent bed and even a Kamasutra love chair that are common at the love motels through the city. Service was only $470 ($27 usd) for a hour. I asked for her number so I can pass it on. Cell 332XXXX312 She also does out calls but will charge $800+. I have attached Google street view photos so that readers can get an idea of what these casitas look like from the outside. If you walk too fast you can easily miss them, so take your time. Mostly all casitas are open from 10 am to 9 pm.

[ThePostmam]

I was in GDL for business at end of June / beginning of July for about 9 days. I stayed in Riu Plaza which is pretty well-known.

The very first night I contacted Mario. He first brought me to Caesar's which is close to hotel. Well, good as an appetizer, but as earlier posts mentioned, it's pretty expensive. Lost around 900 pesos here for nothing but a girl's company and entry fee.

I told Mario what type of girl I was looking for (small, slim, dark-haired) and he was driving me through the whole town trying to find a SG, but we had no success. We were at three other strip clubs: Candy, some else and Pussy Cat the last, which IMHO was the best of that evening. It wasn't in good shape, and it sure as hell is not that kind of luxurious, but it was decent and not expensive (entry fee 200 pesos, girl's drink 140 pesos). Girls are local, natural and not spoiled. Mario joined me and wanted to help me grab one of the girls. One was cute, and she agreed to come with me, but in the end insisted on her girlfriend accompanying. I didn't want that, although Mario offered his help. They wanted 2000 pesos for the night (and 1500 for one; I tried that, but she then changed her mind later to "only with my friend".

The other strip clubs were more high-class, but expensive. Got a lap dance at Candy's, though. Damage there around 600 pesos.

Later during the days, with a colleague, I went to Titanic in centro. We saw a live lesbian sex show, and they had the best looking girls I met in a strip club at GDL. Naturals, young, slim. I liked them a lot, but all of them were already busy.

All in all: high class strip clubs are not worth it. The more decent ones are worth a try. What a pity I didn't manage to get a girl home. Titanic's girls sure looked hot, but I didn't get the opportunity to get to Titanic one more.

I tried two esteticas, as they are the pace to go by day: High Class and are. A. P. E. High Class had no good looking girl for me. At the second I had a massage and CBJ and safer sex for 1500 pesos plus 40 (for a water. HM. Girl was a 6, but not more. I came to the conclusion they are not worth the money either, considering their offer.

Three times I was walking the streets. Found nothing around Cathedral, but in the direction of Calz Independencia Sur, you can find some girls. Look into the smaller side streets like Calle Grecia. I had a good fuck there for 270 pesos including the room. That was OK. Second try, I got "lucky" picking a trans at the same location for 270. That was it for me then. I left undone. I never returned to any establishment or street hooker again. Somehow, the trans killed my attitude for mongering. Not only for not being a girl, but also for being drunk (or drugged) and unfriendly. I was just fed up afterwards.

I can recommend Uber over the taxis, BTW.

I've also been at Loli. Ta bar. I cannot say if there were any freelancers. But there are many nice looking girls, so it was worth an evening. But I was with a colleague, so didn't do mongering and was not quite in the mood for a pickup.

The rest of the dates I dated Tinder matches and had fun with local chicks for free. I dated two girls and banged one of them. Also, I got a phone number from one of the girls in Riu Plaza lobby bar. That seemed an easy pick, and she wasn't a hooker. So you might even give "the real hunt" a try. She was pretty hot, but I had no evening left for her. Time's up sooner than you realize.

WIR: I'd like to.

What will I do then? Stick to decent strip clubs, try to get a girl to hotel. And look out for FLs. . Oh, and dating Tinder matches again and trying to pick up girls the old way. But of course, everyone to his liking. .

As for esteticas: I don't think they are worth it. But if you have the time, try out and leave if "no gusto".

Regards.

[Juan Carter]

The prices should average $250/30 min or $500/1 HR. There are two casitas just a few blocks away from another on the map I have attached in the Santa Teresita neighborhood. The first one I went to was on Manuel Acuna street had no girls available so they told me I could either wait 30 minutes or check out their competition down the street..I'm researching for a trip in September and found the casita at Av Manuel Acua #1057 is named Divinas and has a twitter page twitter.com/dannadivina1 . A post today features Kamyla on promo for $400 an hour ($22 US) with oral natural. Thanks, Traveler!

[WorldTravel14]

I'm researching for a trip in September and found the casita at Av Manuel Acua #1057 is named Divinas and has a twitter page twitter.com/dannadivina1 . A post today features Kamyla on promo for $400 an hour ($22 US) with oral natural. Thanks, Traveler!You are welcome Juan Carter!! For anyone visiting from the States or Europe, you will get a lot of bang for your buck at any casita. Just don't settle for a gordita or an establishment that seems to be unprofessional. Next month I plan on going to the most popular casitas, recording the addresses and rating the women. Then I will be able to make a Google map with addresses so that other visitors can use it, similar to what we already have for esteticas. The good thing is the casitas are more centralized and sometimes many can be found within a short walking distance of one another. It makes its easier to not only shop around, but also to get your money's worth!

[Saleen123]

This is all great info. I'm looking fwd to my trip in September. I do have a couple more questions.

Has anyone stayed at the Hilton by the expo center? That's where I'm booked but could change if there's a nicer hotel nearby. My main concern is that having women over will not be a problem.

Also, what other things are worth doing and seeing while I'm in town? I don't want to drive too far out of town or anywhere that would be unsafe. But I'm all about checking out the culture, sites, food, and people.

Also, is it true that you can get Viagra and other meds from Farmacia Guadalajara? If I'm just getting Viagra is there anything I need to know or can I just walk in and ask for it without a prescription? How much can you get at a time?

Thanks

[Frcrckr Daddy]

This is all great info. I'm looking fwd to my trip in September. I do have a couple more questions.

Has anyone stayed at the Hilton by the expo center? That's where I'm booked but could change if there's a nicer hotel nearby. My main concern is that having women over will not be a problem.

Also, what other things are worth doing and seeing while I'm in town? I don't want to drive too far out of town or anywhere that would be unsafe. But I'm all about checking out the culture, sites, food, and people.

Also, is it true that you can get Viagra and other meds from Farmacia Guadalajara? If I'm just getting Viagra is there anything I need to know or can I just walk in and ask for it without a prescription? How much can you get at a time?

ThanksHello,

I lived in GDL for 5 years. I have lived all over the world. Recently in Asia. I'm going back to GDL in September. I'm flying to Puerto Vallarta and renting a car and going to enjoy a nice drive over to GDL. I'm staying at the Hilton. I am visiting some friends and going down some old roads. If you are looking to bring girls back to the Hilton, not only is it out of the way, but you might have to answer too many questions and / or leave ids, etc.

The Holiday Inn downtown is a great stop. You could have that as your 'home base' You can then rent rooms by the hour all over downtown. Cheap.

Basically, you need to relax and enjoy yourself. "Dangerous Areas" are not anything like what you might experience in the US. They are usually not going to mess with you anyways.

The only people who ever gave me trouble when I lived there was the police. Looking for bribes.

Downtown is a lot of fun. You can walk around like Disney world.

[WorldTravel14]

Hello,

The Holiday Inn downtown is a great stop. You could have that as your 'home base' You can then rent rooms by the hour all over downtown. Cheap.

Downtown is a lot of fun. You can walk around like Disney world.There has been debates for years among guys whether it is safe to bring a women who you don't even know to your motel where you have all your personal belongings. In a city like GDL where love motels are ridiculously cheap compared to what you get and they are spread all throughout the city, I think it's safer just to meet a Chica there. Plus most upper level escorts will only meet you at a motel for safety reasons.

I have used quite a few love motels and I have attached ones that I would recommend. I made it a point to visit different motels all around GDL to find my favorite. The way the love motels work are each room will have a garage that you can park in and then close the garage door. In the past I have walked up to them and also taken an Uber without an issue. The other way I have seen a motel entrance is they will have an entrance like a parking lot where you tell them what kind of room you want and then they assign you a room number. Once inside a room an employee will come to the side where there is a little slider where money / food can be exchanged. I don't know why but the least minimum time rental is 6 or 8 hours. But it is still really cheap, depending on the room size prices range from $20 to $80 USD. And $50 and above gets you a real nice suite. You can look at the websites of the motels I have attached to get an idea of the room designs.

I recommended these for many reasons. One they are very, very clean. At all hours you will see cleaning ladies walking around making sure everything is nice and tidy. Secondly, the rooms are spacious, beds are comfortable and they have lcd TV's playing adult videos which is a nice touch. The room designs are well thought of. Now if you are just looking for like a Motel 8 kind of motel just to do the deed there are many in Centro for around $15. But you get what you pay for.

Most motels will also have a menu for food and drinks. I suggest bringing your own alcohol from Oxxo (mexico 7/11) or Super La Playa because it is way cheaper. Once you have a room you can then let your Chica know the room number via whatsapp. If anyone has anymore questions feel free to post them in the forum and I will try to answer them.

[Juan Carter]

Also, is it true that you can get Viagra and other meds from Farmacia Guadalajara? If I'm just getting Viagra is there anything I need to know or can I just walk in and ask for it without a prescription? How much can you get at a time? ThanksI've never had a problem or needed a prescription anywhere in Mxico. Generic sildenafil costs 1/4 of what you pay for genuine Viagra and has worked for me. The generic goes by several different name brands. I don't know if there are restrictions about bringing it back to the US from Mxico; I suppose that with a prescription it would be okay and in the quantity specified by your script.

[WombatEd2]

I've never had a problem or needed a prescription anywhere in Mxico. Generic sildenafil costs 1/4 of what you pay for genuine Viagra and has worked for me. The generic goes by several different name brands. I don't know if there are restrictions about bringing it back to the US from Mxico; I suppose that with a prescription it would be okay and in the quantity specified by your script.In the Tijuana forums, some say the cops like to hassle people coming out of pharmacies. The story goes that, while the pharmacist isn't required to SEE the prescription, you are required to HAVE one.

I'm not sure that happens, but I've always just bought one, and then swallowed it before leaving the pharmacy.

[Quagmire1974]

I've never had a problem or needed a prescription anywhere in Mxico. Generic sildenafil costs 1/4 of what you pay for genuine Viagra and has worked for me. The generic goes by several different name brands. I don't know if there are restrictions about bringing it back to the US from Mxico; I suppose that with a prescription it would be okay and in the quantity specified by your script.I purchased 20 doses of generic Sildenafil in Medellin, Colombia for about $2.50 a pill. Rather than bring back 20 little packages in my carry-on luggage, I simply removed the pills from their blister packs and put them in a small, empty Ibuprofen bottle. If you're coming from Latin America, TSA and CBP could care less about a few pecker pills. They're looking for that kilo of blow or hash in the lining of your suitcase.

[Saleen123]

Great, thanks for all the suggestions. A couple more questions.

1. If I want to get sildenafil and Viagra, it sounds like I can just walk into the pharmacy and the pharmacist isn't going to ask to see a prescription, is that right? If I need a prescription, is there a way to purchase one or get someone to write one at the pharmacy?

2. Even thought I'm staying at the Hilton, I'm actually pretty surprised by how cheap these love motels are. Specially the kuboz. As long as I can drive to it and park easily, that seems like a really good route, especially if that's safer for the women. So, thank you for that.

3. My trip isn't until Sept 25th, so I know it's way too early to start searching. Can anyone recommend any additional sites that I should check out? I've been looking at backpage, and have noticed some fake ads, so I'm not sure how much to trust that. Also, * doesn't have too many reviews for the GDL area.

4. Does anyone have any women they can recommend? I'm trying to look for some women like these two ads below. (basically a bigger butt). I'd like to spend at least a couple of hours with them.

http://mx.mundosexanuncio.com/escorts-jalisco/karla-culona-sabrosa-y-amable-3077837.html

http://mx.mundosexanuncio.com/escorts-jalisco/soy-gordibuena-sin-complejos-de-nada-3079371.html

5. Can anyone offer any services to help me book hotels or communicate with the women? I don't know much Spanish, so I'm afraid I'd screw something up. I'd be happy to pay for some assistance. Or is Mario the best guy to contact?

Thanks!

[WorldTravel14]

Great, thanks for all the suggestions. A couple more questions.

2. Even thought I'm staying at the Hilton, I'm actually pretty surprised by how cheap these love motels are. Specially the kuboz. As long as I can drive to it and park easily, that seems like a really good route, especially if that's safer for the women. So, thank you for that.

Thanks!If you are going to be staying at the Hilton by the Expo your go to motel should be the Blue Concept. First of all it is a less than 10 minute drive which is a $2 ride with Uber. I have attached a map showing the distance between the two. Secondly the Blue Concept has some nice rooms for the price, $450 pesos gets you a spacious full size suite with a jacuzzi. Kuboz is more of a place you would go for that special someone or for a bigger occasion.

[WorldTravel14]

Great, thanks for all the suggestions. A couple more questions.

3. My trip isn't until Sept 25th, so I know it's way too early to start searching. Can anyone recommend any additional sites that I should check out? I've been looking at backpage, and have noticed some fake ads, so I'm not sure how much to trust that. Also, * doesn't have too many reviews for the GDL area.

4. Does anyone have any women they can recommend? I'm trying to look for some women like these two ads below. (basically a bigger butt). I'd like to spend at least a couple of hours with them.

http://mx.mundosexanuncio.com/escorts-jalisco/karla-culona-sabrosa-y-amable-3077837.html

http://mx.mundosexanuncio.com/escorts-jalisco/soy-gordibuena-sin-complejos-de-nada-3079371.html

Thanks!Since you want to spend time with a curvy big booty tapatia and speak no Spanish I suggest you do this to get to get the best results. First of all let me tell you from experience, do not look at those fake internet ads, they are a waste of time and money. Both links you posted are of the US model Mal Malloy. But there are women in Gdl with that type of body, do not worry.

There are two esteticas that are known to have the kind of curvy women you are looking for. I wrote about Mediterrano a few posts ago so please read that. But to sum it up you will find a nice selection of curvy women there, some with breast implants and many with a nice natural big booty. With your limited Spanish, you can easily go there and choose the one of your liking in the lineup. Cost is $640. Secondly once you are in the room you can exchange numbers & coordinate with her an out call price. Average price will be $700 pesos & up per hour. A lot of chicas moonlight after 7 pm as escorts because they make way more and don't need to pay the house a cut.

The second estetica I would recommend as a backup for that type of woman is Bambinas. They don't have as many chicas as Mediterraneo but they are cheaper and still have some nice curvy women. Keep in mind that most mexican men crave for skinny, slim women so you will see them more often than not promoted at a general estetica. I have attached real photos of two of the more popular chicas at Mediterraneo so you can get an idea of what's available there. I have spent time with both Michelle and Osiris, they both are a good time and work hard to please! I will be heading back down there in a month and will have more up to date reports that you can use for your trip in September.

One last tip I would give you, esteticas are like any business, they have their slow hours and their peak ones too. If you go on say, a Saturday or Friday evening the wait can be long and the selection limited. The best days to go selection wise in general are Monday to Thursday, preferably before 6 pm. I have never been to an estetica during those hours and felt the selection to be limited. You can then set up an out call for Fri / Sat, I have stuck with that routine and done very well during my past trips.

[Juan Carter]

. Can anyone recommend any additional sites that I should check out? I've been looking at backpage, and have noticed some fake ads, so I'm not sure how much to trust that. Also, * doesn't have too many reviews for the GDL area.Backpage is probably about as trustworthy in GDL as anywhere, not to say much. The best resource I have found is http://sexxxyprovincia.forumfree.it/ better than http://sexoenguanatos.forumfree.it/.

[WorldTravel14]

Backpage is probably about as trustworthy in GDL as anywhere, not to say much. The best resource I have found is http://sexxxyprovincia.forumfree.it/ better than http://sexoenguanatos.forumfree.it/.I also recommend Sexxxyprovincia for contacting chicas. The major pluses are the photos posted are real, unedited and taken by cellphone. Secondly, there are reviews posted that can give you an idea about how well the service was. Also, a lot of them have weekly or daily specials.

Just as a rule of thumb, most chicas communicate through whatsapp & will only meet at a hotel, at least the first time. Rarely will a chica have a host home or hotel so you will have to arrange that on your own. I normally set up a date with a chica and then head to the hotel a hour in advance to settle in before having some fun. If anyone needs help contacting a chica via whatsapp please let me know and I can help.

[Bijou]

Just as a rule of thumb, most chicas communicate through whatsapp If anyone needs help contacting a chica via whatsapp please let me know and I can help.I haven't used Whatsapp much, but when I have, it seems that you have to add the Whataspp number as a contact and then send a request to have that person accept you? So, it seems that it would be difficult to just use Whatsapp upon arrival to another country to go through a list of chicas to contact them without having them first accept you as a contact.

Is there a way around this that I don't know about?

Thanks.

[Dickhead]

Keep in mind that most mexican men crave for skinny, slim women ROTFLMAO. Funniest thing I've heard all week.

[WorldTravel14]

ROTFLMAO. Funniest thing I've heard all week.Well we have to keep in mind similar to the US, Mexico is going through an obesity epidemic. So there are a lot of fatties at home that the husband's want nothing to do with. That's one of the main reason why the estetica scene is huge here.

[WorldTravel14]

I haven't used Whatsapp much, but when I have, it seems that you have to add the Whataspp number as a contact and then send a request to have that person accept you? So, it seems that it would be difficult to just use Whatsapp upon arrival to another country to go through a list of chicas to contact them without having them first accept you as a contact.

Is there a way around this that I don't know about?

Thanks.You are referring to an older form of whatsapp. The newer version allows you to msg anyone AS long as they haven't blocked you.

I will explain how I use whatsapp to contact chicas starting from the beginning. To anyone who hasn't used whatsapp before it is basically an app that allows you to instant message, share photos, videos and make calls. For our purposes we will focus on messaging. So nowadays when you send someone a msg it goes through to the receiver. They are able to read the message and decide whether to add or block this new contact. If they accept the contact and read it, there will be a blue check next to the msg confirming that it has been delivered & read.

Now I have stressed the importance in previous posts of getting a local number upon arrival and this has to do with using whatsapp. When messaging a chica they will reply more often than not if you have a local number. If they see an international number, there is no way to actually prove through messaging if you are local and not thousand of miles away. Some chicas will even call your number to prove that you are actually local.

So the first thing I do is look on sexxyprovincia for at least 5 chicas I would to spend time with. Keep in mind they all might no be available so I am just doing process of elimination. I send the same message separately to each of them.

I msg a chica that I want to set up a date and ask about her services / costs. Once we agree on that I let them know the days / hours that I'm free and if they have a preferred motel. Most chicas have their favorite motels that are closer to their work / home and others are willing to meet pretty much at any motel.

Once the chica let's me know her schedule, I end up setting a date / time. I have never had an issue using this method or have a Chica flake or not show.

TIP.

One thing to remember is that a lot of these chicas get waste of time messages from guys who only want her to chat or send a video or picture. Whatever you do, DO not ask for nude photos or videos. They will block you real fast. On forums like sexxxyprovincia the chicas have posted many detailed pics and use them as your baseline. Secondly, there are reviews that have pics of the chicas from the clients point of view. If anyone has any more questions about using whatsapp, post them here.

[Saleen123]

Good point about getting a local phone number. I didn't even think about that. What's the best approach to doing that? Once I land at the airport is there somewhere I can buy a local cell phone that will come with some kind of airtime and that will also allow me to download and use whatsapp? Or is there an easier way?

Thanks.

[Bijou]

You are referring to an older form of whatsapp. Apologies on hijacking the forum on this subject, but I'm still trying to figure out how to use Whatsapp to message chicas NOT on the contact list. I updated to the new version on 2 different Android phones (Verizon carrier in US) and when I open up Whatsapp and just hit the message icon, I get a "select contact" screen with a list of my contacts and not a way to get past this to message someone not on my contact list. I've even tried the FAQS on the Whatsapp website, Googled it, and tried other online searches, but without any real information that seemed to work.

Any other suggestions? Could this be a phone / carrier issue?

[WorldTravel14]

Good point about getting a local phone number. I didn't even think about that. What's the best approach to doing that? Once I land at the airport is there somewhere I can buy a local cell phone that will come with some kind of airtime and that will also allow me to download and use whatsapp? Or is there an easier way?

Thanks.There are two options when it comes to getting a Mexican sim. Keep in mind whichever route you decide to take, you will need an unlocked phone. There are some good ones on Amazon. It is best to buy it in the states. Good phones can be quite expensive in Mexico. Or your provider may even unlock your phone for free.

Option #1.

If you want to hit the ground running you can order a sim card online and have it shipped to your house before your travel. This is a more expensive option but you are really paying for the convenience and this is a great option for non Spanish speakers. A sim card costs $20 and it can come with data plans already preset setting you back $45 total. Not bad if you really think about it because you are basically set. I have attached a photo to a US based company that I have used in the past. You can also google mexico sim card for results.

Option #2.

If you can even speak basic Spanish I suggest going to a cell store and just buying a $3 usd sim card and selecting a data plan. It is a much cheaper option. You can easily save $30. I have attached Telcel data plans to show an idea of prices depending on data & days. I recommend using a ratio of 1 GB per week visiting even if your hotel has WiFi. This gives you more than enough data to use apps.

The two phone companies I recommend are either Telcel or Movistar. They both have great coverage in big cities, with Telcel have stronger coverage in rural Mexico. Movistar is a little cheaper for visitors so compare prices in the store to see if either company has a special going.

TIP.

If you ever run out of phone credit don't panic, you can go into any Oxxo (7/11 24 hrs) and add credit by giving the cashier your phone number. Just use the word "saldo" and point to your phone. They will then ask how much you want to put & your number. A minute after paying you will receive a confirmation text that your credit has been added.

[WorldTravel14]

Apologies on hijacking the forum on this subject, but I'm still trying to figure out how to use Whatsapp to message chicas NOT on the contact list. I updated to the new version on 2 different Android phones (Verizon carrier in US) and when I open up Whatsapp and just hit the message icon, I get a "select contact" screen with a list of my contacts and not a way to get past this to message someone not on my contact list. I've even tried the FAQS on the Whatsapp website, Googled it, and tried other online searches, but without any real information that seemed to work.

Any other suggestions? Could this be a phone / carrier issue?Make sure you are adding a "+521. " Before any Mexican area code and then the number or else they will not show up on your whatsapp contact list. Then refresh your whatsapp contact list. I had this same problem years ago and this resolved it. This is because your number is from the US and the plus sign is a must. I have attached one of my contacts as an example. If you have any other issues let me know. Good luck!

[WorldTravel14]

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&msa...253192, 0. 198242.

Here is a Google map link to the main love motels in Guadalajara. As you will see they are pretty much spread out throughout the city. The majority of them have websites with prices & photos.

I have a previous post in this forum with my favorite places. Motel Kuboz is hands down the most luxurious and best value out of them all. The other ones I listed are also great values and have nice spacious suites with jacuzzis. It all depends on what you are looking for and how much you want to spend.

[BabyHurricane]

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&msa...253192, 0. 198242.

Here is a Google map link to the main love motels in Guadalajara. As you will see they are pretty much spread out throughout the city. The majority of them have websites with prices & photos.

I have a previous post in this forum with my favorite places. Motel Kuboz is hands down the most luxurious and best value out of them all. The other ones I listed are also great values and have nice spacious suites with jacuzzis. It all depends on what you are looking for and how much you want to spend.Never been to a Love Motel. How does it work? Go to reception and ask for a room?

Thanks for the reply.

[WorldTravel14]

Never been to a Love Motel. How does it work? Go to reception and ask for a room?

Thanks for the reply.If you scroll down to post #1111, you will see my thorough post on motels. You can pay cash or with cards. Check out my post and if you have further questions, post them here.

[MeloMonger]

This girl was incredible. She is from Colombia and speaks decent English.

Phone: [Telephone Number deleted by Admin] (contact via Whatsapp).

She was a little late, but I was in the center of town and there was a lot of traffic.

Day Job: apparently a nurse. She said she works at a hospital.

No kids!

Age: 22 (doesn't look a day over 18).

Weight: 100 lbs, tops (probably closer to 90).

Cost: 1 HR (1250) 1.5 (1600) 2 (1900).

Body: 10 (if you like spinners like me).

Face: 9.

Performance: 10 (incredibly sensual and sloppy BBBJ).

GFE: 100%.

Anal: 1 K extra. It looked used a few times.

EDITOR's NOTE: This report was edited or deleted to remove personal telephone numbers. Please do not post personal telephone numbers in the Forum. Instead, please invite other Forum Members to contact you for this information directly via the Forum's Private Messaging system. Thanks!

[WorldTravel14]

I finally have had the chance to write a review about my time spent with Osiris, a hot chica. She is originally from Guadalajara and is very professional. I contacted her through whatsapp and she replied promptly. We set up an apt at a motel and she arrived on time. She gives great GFE and is very flexible. She makes sure that her customers are pleased and is open to doing anything! I hooked up with her again and she ended up coming to my place since she trusted me.

She also has a hot friend that she does threesome's with. I believe she said $1500 pesos / HR for both. I was set to come back to the states so I couldn't take her up on the offer. Maybe when I head back there next month.

She has a lot of photos online but I wanted to post some of the ones I took for authenticity purposes. The only one I didn't take is the one with her friend, she sent that to me. You can read reviews of her in Spanish on sexxxyprovincia. It is free to join and view photos.

A solid 9/10.

$900 pesos / HR.

5'2.

115 pounds.

Early 20's and looks it.

Very pretty.

Light brown eyes.

Soft brown skin (morena).

Long black curly hair.

DD implants.

Small waist, big booty.

Only speaks Spanish, not even a word of English. But worth using Google translator.

[Saleen123]

Will the women take US dollars or is it best to have all pesos? If pesos, is it best to just exchange get the money from my local bank before I leave? I intend on seeing at least 3 or 4 women while I am out in GDL for the week, and I'd like to spend a couple of hours with each. I'm assuming that around 8000 pesos or so would be enough. Do banks charge astronomical fees to exchange that much cash? I haven't traveled anywhere in mexico other than tourist destinations where US dollars were accepted. So, I'm curious how to prepare.

[WorldTravel14]

Will the women take US dollars or is it best to have all pesos? If pesos, is it best to just exchange get the money from my local bank before I leave? I intend on seeing at least 3 or 4 women while I am out in GDL for the week, and I'd like to spend a couple of hours with each. I'm assuming that around 8000 pesos or so would be enough. Do banks charge astronomical fees to exchange that much cash? I haven't traveled anywhere in mexico other than tourist destinations where US dollars were accepted. So, I'm curious how to prepare.Guadalajara doesn't have the same amount of US tourists like Puerto Vallarta or Cancun. This is why you will notice hardly anyone speaks fluent English and usd are not accepted anywhere. I actually see more US tourists in the neighboring art city of Tlaquepaque and even there no usd are accepted. You have a few options when it comes to getting your pesos. I will discuss if 8,000 pesos is enough at the end of my post.

If your bank doesn't charge high fees and you feel comfortable travelling with cash, go ahead and get pesos in the US. But first check the current exchange rate on sites because many US banks will try to low ball you and give you a shitty return and stiff you with a high fee. Another option is checking if your bank charges any international ATM fees, mine doesn't so I just withdraw money my first day in GDL. If I run out, I just withdraw more money days into my trip since there is no charge. There are big banks all over the city as well as ATM's in many of the Oxxo stores. I have found you get the best rates doing this.

At the moment 1 usd is worth 18.5 pesos and most money exchange places either in the US or GDL won't give you such a good rate, or charge high fees. With that being said it is best you pay the chica in pesos because she won't want to go though the trouble of exchanging the money.

I would also recommend to check and see if your credit cards charge any international fees. There are some US credit cards like Capital one that don't charge any international fees, so you can use them at restaurants or if you ran out of pesos. It is a great back up option.

At the moment 8,000 pesos is around $432 usd. Now in GDL you can really be able to stretch that depending on what you do. Prices are not inflated like the Mexican tourist destinations. Meals can easily be had for less than $5 and even some of the higher end restaurants are usually no more than $20 a head. But when you throw in spending time with chicas, I can see how 8,000 will be nowhere near enough for a weeks time.

You mentioned you were planning on seeing 3 to 4 chicas for a couple hours each so let's do some math; a quality chica charges no less than $900 pesos / HR so let's just say $1000. So if you spent 2 hours with a Chica she will discount it and more than likely charge you around $1700 pesos. Do that with 4 chicas and you have already spent $6800 pesos out of the $8000. This doesn't include paying for the motel either or any drinks at clubs if you intend on going out and freelancing.

The much higher out call prices are the reason why so many men end up going to an estetica or casita, and just pay a fraction of the cost. So that may be something you want to consider if you want the better value. You can then set up a date with one or two chicas instead. That way you get way more bang for buck. Post here if you have any more questions.

[Juan Carter]

Good point about getting a local phone number. I didn't even think about that. What's the best approach to doing that? Once I land at the airport is there somewhere I can buy a local cell phone that will come with some kind of airtime and that will also allow me to download and use whatsapp? Or is there an easier way? Thanks.Last March I had TelCel in CDMX put a chip in my unlocked phone. The chip with a local number and Amigo Plan (good for 30 days) cost me 150 pesos plus tax. I think 179 pesos total. Unlimited calls in Mexico and to the US. Free and unlimited WhatsApp, Twitter, Facebook and Messenger. I only got 150 Mb that were used up immediately with updates because I neglected to make the "WiFi only" setting. I didn't need to buy more Mbs because free WiFi is available everywhere in CDMX and seemingly in GDL. http://www.cast.mx/Telcel/Telcel-Paquete-Amigo-Sin-Limites-minutos-mensajes-y-Redes-Sociales-ilimitados.html.

[WorldTravel14]

I only got 150 Mb that were used up immediately with updates because I neglected to make the "WiFi only" setting. I didn't need to buy more Mbs because free WiFi is available everywhere in CDMX and seemingly in GDL. http://www.cast.mx/Telcel/Telcel-Paquete-Amigo-Sin-Limites-minutos-mensajes-y-Redes-Sociales-ilimitados.html...I recommend anyone visiting GDL to select a data plan of at least 1 GB for a weeks visit. Using Uber, Google maps, whatsapp and other apps daily will eat up 150 MB real quick. There is WiFi in many parts of GDL but that isn't something I would rely on as a substitute for data. I usually will use the WiFi to update apps or if I need to stream a video, other than Telcel amigo plan works perfect for a visitor. Telcel has LTE coverage all throughout the city.

[WombatEd2]

is it best to just exchange get the money from my local bank before I leave?I've never tried GDL (yet) but in my experience, most ATMs charge you a flat fee around one or two dollars. And the rate they use is better than the ones the changers offer, on either side of the border. My bank won't change money in the US. YMMV.

[Johnny Drama]

I recommend anyone visiting GDL to select a data plan of at least 1 GB for a weeks visit. Using Uber, Google maps, whatsapp and other apps daily will eat up 150 MB real quick. There is WiFi in many parts of GDL but that isn't something I would rely on as a substitute for data. I usually will use the WiFi to update apps or if I need to stream a video, other than Telcel amigo plan works perfect for a visitor. Telcel has LTE coverage all throughout the city.If you're a Verizon customer in the USA they now offer a $2/ day plan for Mexico. No reason to get a local SIM IMHO with this option. I'd be surprised if the other large USA Carriers don't offer something similar as well since Verizon is usually the most expensive.

[Johnny Drama]

This girl was incredible. She is from Colombia and speaks decent English.Best experience I've had globally, without question. Treat her well guys.

[WorldTravel14]

If you're a Verizon customer in the USA they now offer a $2/ day plan for Mexico. No reason to get a local SIM IMHO with this option. I'd be surprised if the other large USA Carriers don't offer something similar as well since Verizon is usually the most expensive.I would say this is a great option if you are visiting Mexico and looking to keep in touch with family / work back in the states. Sprint & AT&T both provide a daily rate for customers visiting Mexico. My situation is a little different because I travel to Mexico often and needed to get a local number. Secondly in my experience I have found chicas in GDL to reply more than not through whatsapp when I used my Mexican number. Many have told me they are not used to be contacted via whatsapp by a "gringo" like a Chica in Vallarta or Cancun would be. So sometimes they will just ignore the msg and go for the sure thing local customer.

Lastly, with the new data plans offered by Telcel / Movistar a visitor will only come out of pocket around $10-$15 usd for a sim & data plan making it worth getting one if you are staying for a week or more. In my past stays for two weeks I would pay $249 pesos ($14) and get 1.5 GB of Telcel LTE data. Now I use my phone a lot so for others this may be overkill.

I will be heading back down in three weeks and will get the current cell rates to see what is most cost efficient and then post it here so that others can decide what's best for them.

[Juan Carter]

Both of the girls of Johnny's 7/3 post are on Xvideos. Connie is aka Andrea Neri and has a profile and posted five. http://www.xvideos.com/profiles/andrea-neri Karina, the Colombiana, has three the best at http://www.xvideos.com/video22517583/video_karinita_2.

[El Mojado]

Hey everyone!

It's been some time since I've visited here and written but I wanted to post an important report on BANK FEES!

Bank of America has had an ongoing agreement with Banco Santander in Mexico where you could use your be of A bank card at Santander's ATM's with no international fee or ATM use fee and only pay the standard 3% conversion fee for the currency. This was wonderful and I specifically got a be of A account just for my travels to Mexico.

But sadly, all things must come to an end and I just found out today that this is ending on August 15,2016. Bank of America will no longer waive ATM fees and Santander surcharges after that date. The exact text from be of A's website follows:

Mexico.

Note: Beginning August 15,2016, if you use a Banco Santander ATM in Mexico for a withdrawal, transfer or balance inquiry, our Non-Bank of America International ATM usage fee of $5 and the Santander ATM operator access fee will no longer be waived.

-- But don't cry into your cerveza yet my humble hermanos / brother mongers. All hope is not lost!

Bank of America still has an agreement with Scotiabank in Mexico! Scotiabank is not as common as Santander but you will find it in many major and minor cities.

This way you can still avoid paying $5 USD per inquiry / withdrawal on top of a $2 USD and up fee from the actual bank ATM you are using. That adds up! $7 USD is a dang good meal or a real good margarita.

I can't post links but I can at least give you the info you need to type into google to search. Just search 'scotiabank mexico' and click on 'Surcursales why Cajeros' (Branches and ATM's). Then enter the major city you are in or near and you will get a nice scaleable map you can shrink or enlarge and move around to state by state, city by city or street by street. Close to my favorite MP in Guadalajara (Danny's) there are actually 2 Scotiabanks. Closest one is on Chapultepec Sur 324, Colonia Americana, cross street is calle Miguel Lerdo de Tejada. The other one is on Avenida 16 de Septiembre 245, Colonia Centro, cross street is Calle Preciliano Sanchez. I found both of these easily using the map from scotiabank's site and cross checked with google maps.

I won't be able to get out there until probably November but as I near my travel date I will come here to check and post. I will have to check on Danny's before I go so anyone having any info on Danny's please post. I know the owner from when she used to work at Geisha's years ago and she is a wonderful woman and runs a great MP. Plus I like the food at the vegetarian restaurant across the street and on Sundays I believe on Calle Belgica at the little corner store (on the same side of the street as the vegetarian place) they sell some of the best home-made tamales for 10 pesos each. They probably raised the price to 12 pesos each but that's still extremely cheap for what you are getting! Oh how I miss my mujeres in Mexico and miss the wonderful treatment I have always received from the Mexicanos and Mexicanas during my travels there. Just use common sense, be courteous, and don't take unnecessary chances. Especially at night. When you are out and about and you will have a very awesome time down there. If you can learn some Spanish it will go a very long way in making things even more pleasurable! Viva las chicas! I have been cooped up in the USA way, way, WAY TOO LONG!

OK. Scotiabank everyone who has a Bank of America account. Still good for Mexico. I set mine up so I have two accounts and a main account that's untouchable and I transfer $ from the untouchable account into the two feeder accounts. That way if one card gets lost or compromised or stolen, they can only take a little bit, and you have a back up account. If both are lost, oh well. But your main account is untouchable. If you keep a minimum balance of 1,500 USD in the bank of America account (main one) they pretty much waive the fees on the accounts. It's my mongering account I have previously passed this tip to mongers and other expats I have met in Mexico by word of mouth but I am putting this here because anyone I have spoken to also knows of this site and will be very sad when Bank of America stops its agreement with Santander. Go to Scotiabank! Happy Mongering everyone!

El Mojado.

[BlueJohn]

Make sure you are adding a "+521. " Before any Mexican area code and then the number or else they will not show up on your whatsapp contact list. Then refresh your whatsapp contact list. I had this same problem years ago and this resolved it. This is because your number is from the US and the plus sign is a must. I have attached one of my contacts as an example. If you have any other issues let me know. Good luck!I have seen others mention using Google Translate with WhatsApp. Is it strictly cut-and-paste or is there some trick I am missing to translate in WhatsApp?

[Audi2016]

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[WorldTravel14]

I have seen others mention using Google Translate with WhatsApp. Is it strictly cut-and-paste or is there some trick I am missing to translate in WhatsApp?The quickest way I know of is when you copy text from whatsapp, a small translate icon appears in the upper right corner. Once you tap the icon the translation will appear on the screen. Make sure you have the current version of translate. It is actually pretty quick and you can then type in your reply in English and then copy and paste the Spanish translation into the whatsapp chat. Since you will basically be having a less than five minute chat with the Chica about setting up a day / time, translating won't take much effort. When I used to not be able to speak Spanish this would be my whatsapp chat to set up a date with a Chica, short, simple and to the point. In GDL I stress the importance of setting up a date at a nice Motel, especially with a quality chica. Not many chicas will just come to your hotel unless you picked them up at a bar. But they will easily meet you at a hotel because it is completely safe for them. I have listed some good places in my earlier posts. I will write the chat in English.

Me: Hello, beautiful, I am here in Guadalajara visiting and would like to spend some time with you. Can you please tell me about your schedule, prices and services? Thanks.

Chica: She will reply with her prices / services and schedule.

Me: OK, I am free Wednesday night at 8 pm. We can meet at Motel Kuboz. Does that work for you?

Chica: Yes, it does.

Me: OK. Once I'm at Kuboz I will send you the room number. Thanks again for the quick reply. See you soon!

I do not try to over chat with them because many of the chicas have said that irritates them and is a common thing many local men do. Business is business and I agree. Well if you have any more questions post them here.

[BabyHurricane]

In Panama you have Habanos and Veneto. In San Jose you have HDR and Sportsman. Is there anything similar for indie chicas?

[WorldTravel14]

In Panama you have Habanos and Veneto. In San Jose you have HDR and Sportsman. Is there anything similar for indie chicas?I have been San Jose and there is nothing exactly like Del Rey or Sportsman. Your closest option will be the many esteticas or one of the strip clubs where you can do things on site. I don't go to the strip clubs because a lot of them are rip off joints and charge extremely high fees for drinks and the chicas. One thing you need to keep in mind is that GDL is far from a monger destination compared to Panama or San Jose, not even close. Try one of the main esteticas and see what you think, I'm sure you can find something of your liking there.

[Saleen123]

I would say this is a great option if you are visiting Mexico and looking to keep in touch with family / work back in the states. Sprint & AT&T both provide a daily rate for customers visiting Mexico. My situation is a little different because I travel to Mexico often and needed to get a local number. Secondly in my experience I have found chicas in GDL to reply more than not through whatsapp when I used my Mexican number. Many have told me they are not used to be contacted via whatsapp by a "gringo" like a Chica in Vallarta or Cancun would be. So sometimes they will just ignore the msg and go for the sure thing local customer.

Lastly, with the new data plans offered by Telcel / Movistar a visitor will only come out of pocket around $10-$15 usd for a sim & data plan making it worth getting one if you are staying for a week or more. In my past stays for two weeks I would pay $249 pesos ($14) and get 1.5 GB of Telcel LTE data. Now I use my phone a lot so for others this may be overkill.

I will be heading back down in three weeks and will get the current cell rates to see what is most cost efficient and then post it here so that others can decide what's best for them.I will be bringing my personal phone and opting for the Verizon 2 dollar travel pass so I can contact home and work. However, I'm concerned about the chicas not responding to my number, so I will likely bring a second phone and get a telcel sim card.

I've seen telcel sim cards on eBay and I understand I can get them in gdl as well. If I purchase a prepaid sim card does that automatically come paired with a local GDL number?

[WorldTravel14]

I will be bringing my personal phone and opting for the Verizon 2 dollar travel pass so I can contact home and work. However, I'm concerned about the chicas not responding to my number, so I will likely bring a second phone and get a telcel sim card.

I've seen telcel sim cards on eBay and I understand I can get them in gdl as well. If I purchase a prepaid sim card does that automatically come paired with a local GDL number?A lot of the prepaid sim cards sold online will be set up with a default Mexico City number. If you decide to get a sim card in GDL it will be a local number so it's your call.

If I were you I would get a sim & data package once you are in GDL. It is pretty easy and cheap.

[Juan Carter]

If I were you I would get a sim & data package once you are in GDL. It is pretty easy and cheap.Maybe this link to the Amigo Kit options will post. $200 pesos is $11.00 US (700 Mb) and 500 is $27.50 US (1500 Mb). Both of these prepay plans give unlimited calls to Mexico, US and Canada. Both have free Facebook, Twitter, WhattsApp and (is it Instagram? I think I will get the 200 Plan, use free WiFi as much as I can, and recharge if I need more Mb. If there is a better option, let us know. In CDMX, where WiFi is free almost everywhere, I never needed my Mb. Somewhere I saw a dial code to get messages about your account balance in English but lost it and will have to research. http://www.telcel.com/personas/telefonia/amigo/todavia-no-tienes-amigo#!tarifas.

[WorldTravel14]

Maybe this link to the Amigo Kit options will post. $200 pesos is $11.00 US (700 Mb) and 500 is $27.50 US (1500 Mb). Both of these prepay plans give unlimited calls to Mexico, US and Canada. Both have free Facebook, Twitter, WhattsApp and (is it Instagram? I think I will get the 200 Plan, use free WiFi as much as I can, and recharge if I need more Mb. If there is a better option, let us know. In CDMX, where WiFi is free almost everywhere, I never needed my Mb. Somewhere I saw a dial code to get messages about your account balance in English but lost it and will have to research. http://www.telcel.com/personas/telefonia/amigo/todavia-no-tienes-amigo#!tarifas.I will be back in GDL in less than two weeks and will get the most up to date phone rates for Telcel and Movistar. Plus I will link a Google maps address to a cellphone store where you can get sim card & data setup. There are many stores in Centro at a place called Plaza Tecnología.

[Saleen123]

Maybe this link to the Amigo Kit options will post. $200 pesos is $11.00 US (700 Mb) and 500 is $27.50 US (1500 Mb). Both of these prepay plans give unlimited calls to Mexico, US and Canada. Both have free Facebook, Twitter, WhattsApp and (is it Instagram? I think I will get the 200 Plan, use free WiFi as much as I can, and recharge if I need more Mb. If there is a better option, let us know. In CDMX, where WiFi is free almost everywhere, I never needed my Mb. Somewhere I saw a dial code to get messages about your account balance in English but lost it and will have to research. http://www.telcel.com/personas/telefonia/amigo/todavia-no-tienes-amigo#!tarifas.Would you guys suggest just buying a phone and plan from telcel once I get into GDL, or should I buy a cheap spare phone in the US and bring it with me? I have a Samsung Galaxy S5 with Verizon but I plan to use my regular phone number with the travel pass so I can still call home, check work email and communicate with my coworkers while I'm in town. I have a couple spare phones at home, but it looks like they aren't charging well. So, I'll either need to get some cheap phone off of craigslist or just buy one when I get to GDL. What do you guys think? If I bring a phone with me, does it need to be setup for a specific kind of sim card. Like micro sim, nano sim, etc?

Thanks.

[WorldTravel14]

Would you guys suggest just buying a phone and plan from telcel once I get into GDL, or should I buy a cheap spare phone in the US and bring it with me? I have a Samsung Galaxy S5 with Verizon but I plan to use my regular phone number with the travel pass so I can still call home, check work email and communicate with my coworkers while I'm in town. I have a couple spare phones at home, but it looks like they aren't charging well. So, I'll either need to get some cheap phone off of craigslist or just buy one when I get to GDL. What do you guys think? If I bring a phone with me, does it need to be setup for a specific kind of sim card. Like micro sim, nano sim, etc?

Thanks.You could buy a cheap android phone in Centro or one of the oxxo stores. Generally electronics are more expensive in Mexico compared to the States. One suggestion is to do what I did. I bought an unlocked dual sim Blu Phone on Amazon for $100. Since I travel internationally a lot it has been a great investment because I can keep my US number in one slot and then just put the local sim in the other one. No need to juggle two phones at all. Blu phones range in price from $70 to $250 and are real good phones for the price you pay. Plus they will either have 4 G or LTE service in Mexico too under Telcel or Movistar. Because I'm using the phone when I'm in the states and when I travel I'm getting the most bang for my buck. It's not like I keep the phone tucked in a drawer when I'm back home. Just switch sim's over and you are good. Check phone reviews out on YouTube or Amazon.

If you decide to buy a phone make sure it is unlocked and works under the the same GSM frequency of the country you are visiting. That way you don't take a phone that won't even work in Mexico. You can check the GSM frequency and the bands of any phone with a simple Google search.

As far as sim card size, there are sim adapters on Amazon or Ebay for any size. Plus Telcel stores have sim card cutters that can shape your sim to fit any phone. Don't worry about that.

[WorldTravel14]

I will be in GDL next week so if anyone wants me to check out a particular estetica or casita please post it here or send me a pm. I will try to go to at least 2 places daily if time permits and post reports while I'm still there and my experiences ares still fresh instead of just one long report.

[FlyWhitMe]

I was in Guadalajara for business and I met this petite girl, so I had to make a review.

This girl is simply lovely.

She is a student, very interesting and educated. Well traveled, thight pussy, making her way through college. Brunette, 22 years old.

What I liked about her is that I was spending time with someone real, who made me feel very confortable and not like a client. She is a sugar baby.

Attached some photos and her whatsapp number (with her permission) [Telephone Number deleted by Admin].

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[FlyWhitMe]

Just as a recommendation, I met Nina_A in Seeking Arrangement, a site where you can meet girls across the world and find out an arrangement that suits both sides.

I had a great arrangement with her and her body is just a dessert. Such a sweet girl you could eat out all day and hug too.

Www.seekingarrangement.com

Change your location to Guadalajara so you can find her (she speaks Spanish, English and German) or other girls.

My personal recommendation.

[Juan Carter]

I will be in GDL next week so if anyone wants me to check out a particular estetica or casita please post it here or send me a pm. I will try to go to at least 2 places daily if time permits and post reports while I'm still there and my experiences ares still fresh instead of just one long report.Me too. Let's buy one another a tequila at La Victoria or La Condesa. I should have a 33# chip by the 25th.

[WorldTravel14]

Me too. Let's buy one another a tequila at La Victoria or La Condesa. I should have a 33# chip by the 25th.Sounds like a plan! I prefer to go to esteticas or casitas since I don't drink. But I would like to check out what else GDL has to offer. Send me a pm when you have a local number.

[Audi2016]

Just as a recommendation, I met Nina_A in Seeking Arrangement, a site where you can meet girls across the world and find out an arrangement that suits both sides.

I had a great arrangement with her and her body is just a dessert. Such a sweet girl you could eat out all day and hug too.

Www.seekingarrangement.com

Change your location to Guadalajara so you can find her (she speaks Spanish, English and German) or other girls.

My personal recommendation.Thanks buddy I got Nia now checking for her attachment But this subscription cost me 70 USd as only premium members allowed to read messages reply.

Can you advise how to proceed with her.

[Juan Carter]

Sounds like a plan! I prefer to go to esteticas or casitas since I don't drink. But I would like to check out what else GDL has to offer. Send me a pm when you have a local number.La Victoria copa for damas $165 and dama cervezas $99 I did not stay as it was early yet and only three girls.

La Condesa copa for la dama $120. My tequila was $60. The salida is $500 on weeknights, greater on weekends. Yeraly says a girlfriend brought her and it is her first night doing this sort of thing we chatted, danced and drank for a couple of hours at a total cost of $550 ($30 US). She wanted to come to my hotel after 3 am closing for $1,000 but I was too tired to wait that late. She gave me her number (it works) and we have a date for tonight.

[GoneFishin]

we chatted, danced and drank for a couple of hours at a total cost of $550 ($30 US). She wanted to come to my hotel after 3 am closing for $1,000 but I was too tired to wait that late. She gave me her number (it works) and we have a date for tonight.I'm a light drinker no longer like to dance much, music can be to loud for me at times. The FL ladies want to get to know you and vice versa, it can be fun if your up for something alittle different.

Lots of these type clubs in GDL. I keep finding more every trip.

GF.

[Gagoo]

In the Tijuana forums, some say the cops like to hassle people coming out of pharmacies. The story goes that, while the pharmacist isn't required to SEE the prescription, you are required to HAVE one.

I'm not sure that happens, but I've always just bought one, and then swallowed it before leaving the pharmacy.I used to cross the Tijuana border decades ago to go to the pharmacies and get stuff. For quite awhile now the pharmacies in Tijuana are pretty strict. And there were a lot of dirty cops looking for people that had meds on them without a prescription. If you get away from the US border the pharmacies will start selling you just about everything. It is in Tijuana, and maybe other border cities that won't sell you good stuff without a prescription. If you go to Cabo San Lucas they really will sell you just about anything. The pharmacies in Cabo, that are for the gringos sold me stuff imported from India. One sold me Ambien. Which is hard to get. In Mazatlan and GDL I have bought Sustanon (testosterone) quite often. That was this year and last year. If you are a little bit older and will spend a week or more in Mexico, get you a shot of testosterone and will have more mojo for sure. But be careful because you will get pissed off more easy.

In Colombia they now sell generic Cialis which works great, sell good sleeping pills (Zoplicona) and sell testosterone also. No prescriptions needed. The pharmacies will administer the testosterone shot if you want them to do it. For Mexico, no problems if you stay away from the US Border. Maybe it is the individual Mexican state laws that are different. If you want pharmacies that will literally sell you anything, look around Cabo. They sell those pills that people are all crazy about in the US. But I don't use those.

[Gagoo]

Hey everyone!

It's been some time since I've visited here and written but I wanted to post an important report on BANK FEES!

Bank of America has had an ongoing agreement with Banco Santander in Mexico where you could use your be of A bank card at Santander's ATM's with no international fee or ATM use fee and only pay the standard 3% conversion fee for the currency. This was wonderful and I specifically got a be of A account just for my travels to Mexico.

But sadly, all things must come to an end and I just found out today that this is ending on August 15,2016. Bank of America will no longer waive ATM fees and Santander surcharges after that date. The exact text from be of A's website follows:

Mexico.

Note: Beginning August 15,2016, if you use a Banco Santander ATM in Mexico for a withdrawal, transfer or balance inquiry, our Non-Bank of America International ATM usage fee of $5 and the Santander ATM operator access fee will no longer be waived.

-- But don't cry into your cerveza yet my humble hermanos / brother mongers. All hope is not lost!

Bank of America still has an agreement with Scotiabank in Mexico! Scotiabank is not as common as Santander but you will find it in many major and minor cities.

This way you can still avoid paying $5 USD per inquiry / withdrawal on top of a $2 USD and up fee from the actual bank ATM you are using. That adds up! $7 USD is a dang good meal or a real good margarita.

I can't post links but I can at least give you the info you need to type into google to search. Just search 'scotiabank mexico' and click on 'Surcursales why Cajeros' (Branches and ATM's). Then enter the major city you are in or near and you will get a nice scaleable map you can shrink or enlarge and move around to state by state, city by city or street by street. Close to my favorite MP in Guadalajara (Danny's) there are actually 2 Scotiabanks. Closest one is on Chapultepec Sur 324, Colonia Americana, cross street is calle Miguel Lerdo de Tejada. The other one is on Avenida 16 de Septiembre 245, Colonia Centro, cross street is Calle Preciliano Sanchez. I found both of these easily using the map from scotiabank's site and cross checked with google maps.

I won't be able to get out there until probably November but as I near my travel date I will come here to check and post. I will have to check on Danny's before I go so anyone having any info on Danny's please post. I know the owner from when she used to work at Geisha's years ago and she is a wonderful woman and runs a great MP. Plus I like the food at the vegetarian restaurant across the street and on Sundays I believe on Calle Belgica at the little corner store (on the same side of the street as the vegetarian place) they sell some of the best home-made tamales for 10 pesos each. They probably raised the price to 12 pesos each but that's still extremely cheap for what you are getting! Oh how I miss my mujeres in Mexico and miss the wonderful treatment I have always received from the Mexicanos and Mexicanas during my travels there. Just use common sense, be courteous, and don't take unnecessary chances. Especially at night. When you are out and about and you will have a very awesome time down there. If you can learn some Spanish it will go a very long way in making things even more pleasurable! Viva las chicas! I have been cooped up in the USA way, way, WAY TOO LONG!

OK. Scotiabank everyone who has a Bank of America account. Still good for Mexico. I set mine up so I have two accounts and a main account that's untouchable and I transfer $ from the untouchable account into the two feeder accounts. That way if one card gets lost or compromised or stolen, they can only take a little bit, and you have a back up account. If both are lost, oh well. But your main account is untouchable. If you keep a minimum balance of 1,500 USD in the bank of America account (main one) they pretty much waive the fees on the accounts. It's my mongering account I have previously passed this tip to mongers and other expats I have met in Mexico by word of mouth but I am putting this here because anyone I have spoken to also knows of this site and will be very sad when Bank of America stops its agreement with Santander. Go to Scotiabank! Happy Mongering everyone!

El Mojado.Try to join a credit union of some sort. I was in the Navy, so with the Navy Federal Credit Union they refund up to $20 a month on ATM fees. If you have $25,000 to let sit, you can open a Schwab bank account, or stock trading account, IRA, or any combination and they refund all fees. This is popular. But I know not everyone wants or has $25 K to put in an account. If you have an IRA you could just swap it to Schwab and get the free ATM benefits. Chase Bank use to have a hard to find qualification for free ATM fees, but I think that is if you are in the military. If you have $100,000 USD and put it in Bank of America and apply to be a platinum member, or was it elite or privileged? You will get refunded a whopping $12 a month on ATM fees. The free Scotiabank ATM fees, deal also works in other countries such as the Dominican Republic. You can also open up a Western Union account online. Then for $5 you can Western Union yourself money coming from your checking account. But you have to wait 3 days. But it is only $5, and Western Union charges about 1% on the currency conversion.

[Juan Carter]

With only 5 days in GDL and at 64, I did the best I could. I have little new to report. Thanks again to JDrama and was able to meet with World Traveler for coffee.

Connie Garcia aka Andrea Neri. A sex machine and I recommend her highly. $800 HR and $200 tip for oral natural and coming to my hotel. A really cute face with one dimple, I give rating 8 even with her horrible teeth. She gives great BBBJ and deep throat even with braces. Lots of French kisses, even the goodbye kiss. I do not like and did not inquire about anal but she loves dining at the DATY and 69. Petite with beautiful small tits and ass, tiny waist, maybe 5 ft. 2. I repeated with her on day 5. She is not currently dancing anywhere. Plenty of pictures posted previously and check out her xvideos under the name Andrea Neri, for an idea of the experience I had with her. She speaks enough English that you should have no problem if you do not speak Spanish.

Karina the Colombiana remembered JohnnyDrama and had even read his review. Speaks English very well. I overpaid, having WhattsApped her to come to my hotel at midnight. I paid $1500 plus $200 oral natural, the price for an Alicia Doll. Also petite small tits, ass and waist, big nips. Her face is not especially attractive, 5 to 6 (Sorry Karina). The best part of her service is her undulation in reverse cowgirl ala porn films. She make those moans and gasps that make you come. French kisses, I did not ask for DATY. Nice experience but not a repeat for me.

Mediterraneo. Recommended spa. Easy to get to on Nios Heroes just west of Walmart. Ten or 12 attractive tias age 25 to 35, 6's to 8's with big boobs and asses. I chose the only flaca, Liz, about 27,1. 6 m who weighs only 45 k. Great service, nice girl but no kisses. Do doggie style last because her perfect little ass and tiny waist will make you come quickly. I did her twice. Cost $640 for 40 minutes and 200 tip for oral natural.

Do not bother with Yenni Cooper or the Spa Nefertiti. She is not as pictured on Sexxxy Provincia and I passed on the other women at the spa as well.

Dance-Ficheras La Victoria has very nice women, 7's to 9's. Prices and info previously posted. La Condesa is a little less expensive for chica drinks, girls are 5's to 7's. I also found the Tabacano on Pricillano Sanchez, a block east of the the bus plaza LOS Dos Templos and only for the adventurous. Beer for the ficheras only 80 pesos. Abril there spoke perfect English and offered to come to my hotel for 3 hrs after closing or any afternoon for $1,000. The salida there is $500. I did not have time or leche for Abril. Good hunting, guys.

[Jasoonnn]

I recently got back from a 2 and a half month stay in Guadalajara. I had been there about 5 times prior to this, for about a week at a time, so wanted to make a longer trip this time. I was able to convince my boss to let me work from there, since I usually work remotely anyways. So here's a recap of what I remember from the trip, in no particular order. I am from Canada, so our dollar to peso was about 13 to 1 at that time. I always used Uber, it is really cheap, and way better than taxis, so that is highly recommended.

I had my own apartment from Airbnb, it was about 20,000 pesos a month, but was new, big, and in the Chapultepec area, so I was OK with paying a bit extra. This helped because I was able to get girls over with no hassle.

I was very active on Tinder & PoF (Plenty of Fish), and met a lot of girls through that (I am 33 years old BTW, and speak decent Spanish). Closing the deal on the first date was almost impossible as girls are a bit more conservative there, but after a couple dates, the potential is there. And since I was there for so long, I had more time, and didn't want to only do P4P.

However, since I am on ISG, let's move on to P4P. The first estetica that I went to was Oasis (on Hidalgo). There were only 3 to choose from and only one was a 9, Yvonne, very beautiful, had braces, really good service. I wanted to repeat but just had many other options to look at as well. Price was 1,200 pesos. A friend who lives there, he and I went to a bunch more esteticas, which have been mentioned here, but I didn't really find much quality. The only other time that I got someone was at Paloma (on Ninos Heros), and wasn't really good. Can't remember the girl, but it was about 600 pesos, and nothing great. Wouldn't repeat there. In my opinion, there are better options than going to esteticas, since I like GFE service better.

The other places that I enjoyed going to at night were, in order: Lipstick night club, La Condesa, La Victoria. Lipstick is more of a traditional strip club, but much cheaper drinks for girls than the others. And it was also easy and cheap to take girls out and take them home. I think it was about 800-1500 depending on the girl. They weren't 10's by far, but I would say 6-8's were available. I would recommend Lipstick over the other 2 that I mentioned, as the girls there were at most 5-6, but drinks were cheap and there was good music and dancing. I never took a girl out from those 2, so not sure how much the cost was.

So onto the escorts, and the best place to find them were on sexxxyprovincia (forum). It is in Spanish, but there's a bunch of pics there and you can Google translate the page too. The best one that I got was a duo with Annette & Melissa Carthy. Cost was 1,800 pesos for 1.5 hours, and it was awesome, DFK, BBBJ, DATY, so all the GFE stuff. Definitely recommended, since that is around $100 USD. I also got Connie, who is reviewed here a few times. Really nice girl, great service. She was 1,500 for 2 hours I believe. I got a couple more, but those 2 are the best ones that I did.

That's all that I can think of, hope this helps people. I'm looking to go to Colombia (Medellin & Cali) next, and reading the forum here, I believe it's much better than GDL. If anyone can compare how the 2 are, that would be great.

[Saleen123]

Does anyone know how to get in contact with the Mediterraneo and see which women are working and when? There are a few women there that I'd like to spend some time with. Lucy and Michelle specifically. I have read some reviews on sexxxyprovincia and they all seem great. However, other than just randomly showing up, I'm not sure how to see if or when they are working. Any advice? Also, has anyone seen either of these women?

Thanks.

[GoneFishin]

Arrive Sept 20 till 23rd if someone wants a wingman.

GF.

[Saleen123]

With only 5 days in GDL and at 64, I did the best I could. I have little new to report. Thanks again to JDrama and was able to meet with World Traveler for coffee.

Connie Garcia aka Andrea Neri. A sex machine and I recommend her highly..Is there parking at Mediterraneo? I'll be staying near the expo center and have a rental car, so if there's parking that'd be great. Also, what day / time is best to go for the best selection?

Thanks.

[Saleen123]

So, I don't speak Spanish very well, and I have a little hard time understanding it. I can pick up some of the very basic stuff, but not much else. Are the escorts or women at the esteticas used to guys that can't speak Spanish well? Clearly, I don't expect that I'm going to be able to carry on a conversation. But I'm wondering how this influence my ability to understand things like price or being able to tell them what I want.

Thanks.

[Juan Carter]

Is there parking at Mediterraneo? I'll be staying near the expo center and have a rental car, so if there's parking that'd be great. Also, what day / time is best to go for the best selection? Thanks.There is exclusive parking, huge sign just next door. Ave. Niños Heroes #970, two blocks west of the WalMart. [Telephone Number deleted by Admin] There is a huge selection early afternoon, maybe 2 pm. Plan on spending $800 to $1,000 ($40 to $50 US) with extras like oral natural, for 45 minutes. You won't need any Spanish at all unless you have "special needs". Just don't let the first girl that latches on to you pressure you to accept her and her price for "extras". Pick the girl that appeals most to you and get the price, time and "extras" clear up front.

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[Johnny Drama]

So, I don't speak Spanish very well, and I have a little hard time understanding it. I can pick up some of the very basic stuff, but not much else. Are the escorts or women at the esteticas used to guys that can't speak Spanish well? Clearly, I don't expect that I'm going to be able to carry on a conversation. But I'm wondering how this influence my ability to understand things like price or being able to tell them what I want.

Thanks.I can't speak to the Esticas, but Connie and Karina which are both excellent escorts reviewed here speak enough English.

[El Mojado]

Is there parking at Mediterraneo? I'll be staying near the expo center and have a rental car, so if there's parking that'd be great. Also, what day / time is best to go for the best selection?

Thanks.If you want an estetica masculina with parking, Danny's has 1 parking stop with a roll down gate, for 1 car. That way you can park a car there safely while you enjoy a chica.

Just check here for Danny's. It's on Avenida De La Paz #1561, Guadalajara. You can see the outside of the building clearly on google maps with the streetview feature and the roll down metal door is for their parking spot. You can further look it up under a google search 'Danny's Estetica Masculina' online and you will get their direct website that has contact info, I'd recommend calling them. They may not have a worker that speaks fluent English but if you speak a little spanish mention you have a car (Tengo Caro / Tengo Coche. Hay Estacionamiento?) Say those things. That way you can get access to their parking spot. They'll open the roll down doors for you if you call a few minutes before you get there. Or just park with hazards on and let them know you are there and they'll pop the door open.

They also give change for the meters for clients Anyway. If you want the ladies can suggest good places to get food nearby. I recommend the vegetarian restaurant across the street. But the ladies like a lunch delivery place that is up the street near a mechanic shop on the same side of the street. They have the phone number for it and can call in a delivery of food if you want but you'll have to wait. Either way, they can recommend good places. Chapultepec (a very main street) is just a few blocks away and has a ton of places to eat at and they range in prices from basic to extremely expensive and 'chic' places. Also banks and such nearby there.

Anyway, it's all good! I'll be heading down in November hopefully! How I miss my favorite estetica!

[Jsxyz]

Hola Amigos,

I've just booked my first trip to Guadalajara for later this year, so in addition to reading the forum I'll definitely have a couple questions if folks don't mind a (Mexico / GDL) noob poking his nose in. I've traveled and played quite extensively in Asia but this will be my first time in Mexico for fun and games, so I'm really excited. I chose Guadalajara because I've always (for years and years and years) wanted to go. I can't even remember why to be honest! Probably someone years ago said something great about it and that stuck with me.

Anyway, I've gathered the scene is esteticas, other "incall" houses, escorts and a few strip clubs. I'm interested in the latter two primarily, most especially strip clubs or other pick up bars. I read a post recently where someone said he's not a drinker so he preferred esteticas, well I must say I'm exactly the opposite! My happy place in the universe is sitting in a dark pick-up bar with a cold beer in my hand. To that end, can anyone elaborate a bit on the strip clubs? It sounds like action is available on-site but what about take-out? And aside from strip clubs are there any bars where freelancers are easy to find?

Many thanks in advance; and I will definitely scroll back through the forum for an additional intel. I did page back a few months earlier today and didn't come up with too much, so recent intel would be great.

Gracias!

[Jsxyz]

The best one that I got was a duo with Annette & Melissa Carthy. Cost was 1,800 pesos for 1.5 hours, and it was awesome, DFK, BBBJ, DATY, so all the GFE stuff. Definitely recommended, since that is around $100 USD. How was the girl-on-girl action in the duo? I've done a couple threesomes here and there with providers but they've always been more like two "onesomes" than a real threesome due to zero interaction between the ladies; for my money that's just not worth it.

[BamJamSam]

I am only in Guadalajara for a short time. I don't have much time to get away for some mongering. I see that [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) is near my hotel. Has anyone been there lately? Is it any good? I have never been to an estetica in Mexico. Do I just go in and tell them I would like full service?

[Brando10]

I will be making my first trip to GDL next week. I'm in search of several high end ladie (s). I don't mind.

Shelling out the $$$ for a high end lady. Prefer GFE type with implants or large natural. I literally speak little to no Spanish.

Guys any help / guidance would be greatly appreciated.

[Jasoonnn]

I am only in Guadalajara for a short time. I don't have much time to get away for some mongering. I see that CodeWord123 is near my hotel. Has anyone been there lately? Is it any good? I have never been to an estetica in Mexico. Do I just go in and tell them I would like full service?The estetica you mention is not bad. Pricey (I believe 1500 pesos) compared to others, and girls are pretty mechanical. But if you do want to go there, just go in and ask to see a lineup and pick someone. It is assumed that you will be getting Full service there. Might have to pay extra for BBJ and other GFE types.

Search in the forum below and a few pages back for other cheaper and better esteticas in the area. There are a bunch in GDL ranging from 350 to 1500 pesos per hour.

[GoneFishin]

Info is back in the forum, just have to take time to read, but since I was just there I will update. This trip was mostly for escorts as others have spoken positively of some lately and I have not really indulged up to this point. Hired Mario to take me around first day and went to Pussy Cats, a low cost local strip club. It was around 1030 pm so was slow with about 10 girls there. Place fills up later and beer, chica drinks, and sofa time with chica of choice is all best value I have found so far in GDL for table bar. Most strip clubs have rooms on site but all with sofa. Do they ever clean the thing? Chica was like 1000 pesos on site for hour. It was loud but believe that was the price. Have not sampled here yet but all shapes and sizes present with mostly 5's to 7's on my scale.

Next day started the escort scheduling. Karina and Connie Garcia were my first choices as they have been mentioned previously with all necessary info. Karina agreed but flaked on me several times so never met up with her. She is in high demand, I advise to meet her at one of the love motels she prefers as the extra money and hours to meet in my hotel did not cause her to show up. Connie was not available so moved on down my list. Melissa Carthy is the real deal. GFE and does the real trio with friend Annette. Highly recommend, these two are more like young milfs, approaching 30's but know their job and do it well. I used http://sexxxyprovincia.forumfree.it/ to find recommended providers by locals. Tried an ex-Joyeux recommended by heavy poster Cazador. Her is name is Erica and is morena, thin but not skinny, soft and worth the effort. Mexico is country code 52 (Three three 3503 1091).

Agencies are where your money will be best used for the higher price girls. Joyeux, Paramour, bouquetgdl and the like all charge high rates according to locals but produce a good product. I paid 3000 for 2 hour dates. Enjoyed all my selection and some even spoke English. Lots of girls to choose from so make a selection and give them a try. I go for the more natural and thin body types.

Esteticas are easy enough, some provide haircuts. Are. A. P. E. Is of the higher end sort. I rather spend that much on an escort but you do get to view product first. I prefer barba azul and hobbie inn. Hobbie is the only one you can get service late night until 2 am. You really have to go and try different ones as the girls who arrive to work change daily. You ask for chicas as you enter and they will usher you into one of the massage rooms for the viewing. Note: Hobbie has a little bar downstairs you can chill with the girls for a bit.

Had a list of Twitter chicks as well but spent most of my time with the agency escorts so never tried them out. #escort #GDL should get you started.

GF.

[Brando10]

Your insight is greatly appreciated!


Info is back in the forum, just have to take time to read, but since I was just there I will update. This trip was mostly for escorts as others have spoken positively of some lately and I have not really indulged up to this point. Hired Mario to take me around first day and went to Pussy Cats, a low cost local strip club. It was around 1030 pm so was slow with about 10 girls there. Place fills up later and beer, chica drinks, and sofa time with chica of choice is all best value I have found so far in GDL for table bar. Most strip clubs have rooms on site but all with sofa. Do they ever clean the thing? Chica was like 1000 pesos on site for hour. It was loud but believe that was the price. Have not sampled here yet but all shapes and sizes present with mostly 5's to 7's on my scale.

Next day started the escort scheduling. Karina and Connie Garcia were my first choices as they have been mentioned previously with all necessary info. Karina agreed but flaked on me several times so never met up with her. She is in high demand, I advise to meet her at one of the love motels she prefers as the extra money and hours to meet in my hotel did not cause her to show up. Connie was not available so moved on down my list. Melissa Carthy is the real deal..

[Bijou]

Due to some physical ailments, I can't really do regular sized massage tables. Any esteticas in GDL that have beds or at least larger massage tables?

[Iddfs]

I am going to GDL later this month for the first time. I would like to know of a couple of hotels that are chica friendly ($60-$90) that you guys can recommend.

I read the past couple of months and while scorts and other places where mentioned, no hotel names were given.

Thanks in advance, I would like to make my reservation soon.

[PirateMorgan]

The girls are (unless maybe you find a good one in the classifieds) overall large, bony, and way overpriced compared to every city I have been in. Of course there are exceptions but overall not thanks.

[Jasoonnn]

The girls are (unless maybe you find a good one in the classifieds) overall large, bony, and way overpriced compared to every city I have been in. Of course there are exceptions but overall not thanks.I'll have to disagree with you on this one. You say large and bony, so a chica can't be both.

Price wise they are from 300 pesos to 1500 for top quality, which is $100 usd, which is definitely not overpriced compared to other cities.

Maybe you just had bad luck with the girls there.

I have been to GDL multiple times, and stayed there for 2. 5 months as well.

Check out the sexxxyprovincia forum next time and you will be able to choose from quality there.

Out of curiosity, which cities are you comparing to?

[Jasoonnn]

I am going to GDL later this month for the first time. I would like to know of a couple of hotels that are chica friendly ($60-$90) that you guys can recommend.

I read the past couple of months and while scorts and other places where mentioned, no hotel names were given.

Thanks in advance, I would like to make my reservation soon.I have stayed at the Hilton Exp, and brought up a girl, and they just asked for their ID, no charge.

I recommend getting an Airbnb apt which would be cheaper and no issues with ID or charges for chicas.

[Johnny Drama]

I am going to GDL later this month for the first time. I would like to know of a couple of hotels that are chica friendly ($60-$90) that you guys can recommend.

I read the past couple of months and while scorts and other places where mentioned, no hotel names were given.

Thanks in advance, I would like to make my reservation soon.Hotel Demetria is the nicest in the city, and very girl friendly from my experience (the door man at valet will even offer to call girls for you. Although I didn't partake in his services as I had my own contacts).

I'll be staying at Square Small Luxury Hotel this trip, which is priced in your range (although at the top end). I don't usually stay at lower end properties, but these are excellent value in my opinion.

Best.

Drama.

[Johnny Drama]

The girls are (unless maybe you find a good one in the classifieds) overall large, bony, and way overpriced compared to every city I have been in. Of course there are exceptions but overall not thanks.Pretty much the complete opposite experience I had in GDL. You're clearly looking in the wrong places.

[GoneFishin]

I'm more of a natural petite, athletic type of conniseaur and never have problems getting want I want. Maybe the poster is looking in the wrong places as stated earlier.

My go to hotel is Hotel Portobelo near GDL universtiy. More resonably priced area to hang in with historical center close by. The transfer station (Juarez) for the metro 2 line system is right out front as well.

Used Airbnb as well with same limitations Some just flat out refused to go to a domicillo.

Estetica beds are all the high narrow type in my experience. Better off going to love motel of your girls choice if she won't visit you in your hotel.

Make note that many escorts will not go to your hotel but only love motels near them. If they do agree it can be at higher price.

GF.

[Iddfs]

Hotel Demetria is the nicest in the city, and very girl friendly from my experience (the door man at valet will even offer to call girls for you. Although I didn't partake in his services as I had my own contacts).

I'll be staying at Square Small Luxury Hotel this trip, which is priced in your range (although at the top end). I don't usually stay at lower end properties, but these are excellent value in my opinion.

Best.

Drama.Thanks for the info. Demetria is way over my budget, but Square Small is fine. Nice location, shower and free parking. I went to TripAdvisor they have a very low ranking, although that is probably due to the small number of reviews, as most of them were excellent. The major complain is about noise from the club at the roof. I will be there for a week, will this be a problem?


I have stayed at the Hilton Exp, and brought up a girl, and they just asked for their ID, no charge.

I recommend getting an Airbnb apt which would be cheaper and no issues with ID or charges for chicas.Thanks for the info. I thought of Airbnb, but most of them say no parties or other guests. Not sure if you have a specific place you usually get.

Any idea if the Westin or the Presidente InterContinental allow girls? I get travel points in each one of those hotels.

[Juan Carter]

I am going to GDL later this month for the first time. I would like to know of a couple of hotels that are chica friendly ($60-$90) that you guys can recommend. I read the past couple of months and while scorts and other places where mentioned, no hotel names were given. Thanks in advance, I would like to make my reservation soon.The Hotel De Mendoza is in your price range. http://www.demendoza.com.mx/site/es/ Perfectly located within a block of the Teatro Degollado. I don't think "chica friendly" is an issue in GDL. At half your price is the Hotel San Francisco Plaza where I asked at the desk if there was a problem bringing a girl to my room and he asked "How much do you want to spend?" Website prices (Expedia, Booking, Hotels.com) are generally cheaper in GDL, I don't understand why.

[Mfin27]

Hey Mfin27,

I'm interested. How to contact you.Leaving tomorrow brother. I did reply to your PM. Good luck here!

[Quagmire1974]

Gentlemen,

First, I want to thank all of you who have taken the time to write trip reports regarding your adventures in Guadalajara. As the title suggests, I'll be heading to that city for a week in December. I've RTFF but unfortunately have discovered that you only have to go back a dozen pages or more before the information becomes old. So, here are some observations with embedded questions:

1) Casitas: a couple of you have mentioned a couple of these exist in GDL and that while they tend to be cheaper, they also tend to be dirty. Have any new casitas opened up recently (or been discovered by mongers) that are worth checking out?

2) Esteticas: I've seen the praise regarding Mediterraneo, the place named after a violent act against women, and others. But seriously? If you want to pop a nut, you have to do so on top of a narrow massage table? Do any esteticas have beds?

3) Strip Joints: this option initially looked good to me until several people mentioned that with buying the girls expensive drinks and paying the included tip, the cost quickly skyrocketed. And, apparently you have to do the deed on a couch. Similar to esteticas, do any strip joints have beds?

4) Agencies: GoneFishin, I really like your post where you mention Joyeux, Paramour, and BouquetGDL. A little research by me suggests the cost to go this route is only a little more than hitting a strip joint. So how does it work? I assume you call or WhatsApp an agency, select a girl, and make an appointment for a certain time. So what do you do, tell the agency to have the girl meet you at a particular love motel at the appointed time?

5) Phone: I didn't think I was going to have to bring my unlocked Samsung Galaxy phone until I realized I would need it to contact the agencies. Is there a particular Telcel SIM card or package that I should buy to get me through a week in GDL? For instance, I just got back from Budapest and while there, I purchased the Vodafone Max-L-Plan, which gave me 1 Gigabyte of data and 100 text messages and phone calls. I think I would want something similar from Telcel for GDL.

6) Hotels: I tried to get a reservation at this place:

http://www.nh-hotels.com/hotel/nh-collection-guadalajara-centro-historico?campid=8436102&ct=287498657&dclid=CMKzkZKnhtACFUOAfgodI14JmA

But they are already booked solid for my selected time period in December. This place looked great:

http://www.krystalurban-hotels.com/guadalajara

Until I realized they wanted the balance paid in full immediately.

So, without going into too much detail, I found a small (and I mean small) place in the historic center that's actually perfectly fine with registered guests bringing new friends back to the hotel. Ultimately, that won't matter if I go the agency route because all three agencies that I mentioned heavily promote the love motels on their websites.

So guys, that's it. Any help any of you can offer regarding my questions above will be greatly appreciated. And don't worry, when I get back, I'll be sure to contribute. You only need to look at my trip reports for Medellin, Saint Maarten, and Budapest for proof of that.

[Jasoonnn]

Hey Quagmire,

I'll try and answer all that I can. I was in GDL for about 3 months from Apr-Jun, so hopefully my info is current. I had a report when I returned, which I'm sure you have read.

1- Never been to a casita so can't provide info on that.

2- You're right about esteticas, most I've been to have just a massage table. My fave was Oasis (on Hidalgo), and didn't like 'violent act against women' one that much. Too mechanical and many up sells. I would rather get a prepago come over to my place.

3- Strip joints are fairly expensive, but the girls are HOT. Men's club is the one that I went to many times, but was mainly there to interact with girls, and get phone numbers for later. These girls are way more expensive than normal agency / independent girls. I did visit a lower end club called Lipstick, which was fun, girls weren't 9's or 10's, but they were available for takeout for under 1000 pesos.

4- I didn't use an actual agency but went to the forum sexxxyprovincia. Forumfree. It. You will find all you need there, it's all ins Spanish but I'm assuming you're OK with that considering you have been to Medellin before. My fave's were Connie, and a petite colombiana whos name I forget. Check the forum out, it should get you all you are looking for.

5- You should get a Telcel pre-paid package, they are pretty cheap, but not sure of the details, because I had got a 3 month term. Unlimited talk, and 4 GB data was under 500 pesos a month, so not very expensive.

6- when I was there, I got an airbnb so didn't have to worry about chica fees etc. I did however stay at the Hilton Expo about a year ago, and had a civilian chica come up. They asked for her to leave her ID at the front desk, but didn't charge anything.

Since you're there for a week, maybe you should join up one of the dating sites like tinder if you want to hang out with someone in the day or even at night. Don't expect to get laid right away because the girls probably won't on the first night, and need more time. However, might be nice to have someone show you around, people are very friendly there.

Let me know if you need any more info, and hope you have a good time!

Also, I'm heading to Colombia in about 10 days, so will reach out to you if I have any questions or if you have any advice.


Gentlemen,

First, I want to thank all of you who have taken the time to write trip reports regarding your adventures in Guadalajara. As the title suggests, I'll be heading to that city for a week in December. I've RTFF but unfortunately have discovered that you only have to go back a dozen pages or more before the information becomes old. So, here are some observations with embedded questions:

1) Casitas: a couple of you have mentioned a couple of these exist in GDL and that while they tend to be cheaper, they also tend to be dirty. Have any new casitas opened up recently (or been discovered by mongers) that are worth checking out?

2) Esteticas: I've seen the praise regarding Mediterraneo, the place named after a violent act against women, and others. But seriously? If you want to pop a nut, you have to do so on top of a narrow massage table? Do any esteticas have beds?

3) Strip Joints: this option initially looked good to me until several people mentioned that with buying the girls expensive drinks and paying the included tip, the cost quickly skyrocketed. And, apparently you have to do the deed on a couch. Similar to esteticas, do any strip joints have beds?.

[GoneFishin]

Mostly agree but my dos centavos as follow:

2) Esteticas: I've seen the praise regarding Mediterraneo, the place named after a violent act against women, and others. But seriously? If you want to pop a nut, you have to do so on top of a narrow massage table? Do any esteticas have beds?

Good value and are clean. You can view the girl and chat them up first. Massage as well. I now frequent Barba Azul and Hobbie Inn (which stay open till 2 am). All have massage table some rooms with chairs or sofas. I utilize all possibilities: P.

3) Strip Joints: this option initially looked good to me until several people mentioned that with buying the girls expensive drinks and paying the included tip, the cost quickly skyrocketed. And, apparently you have to do the deed on a couch. Similar to esteticas, do any strip joints have beds?

The dreaded couch, do they clean those things? I would only entertain the cheaper ones, Pussy Cats or Scandolos, but still for the money spent I could arrange a 2 hour GFE experience with the most expensive escort agencies.

4) Agencies: GoneFishin, I really like your post where you mention Joyeux, Paramour, and BouquetGDL. A little research by me suggests the cost to go this route is only a little more than hitting a strip joint. So how does it work? I assume you call or WhatsApp an agency, select a girl, and make an appointment for a certain time. So what do you do, tell the agency to have the girl meet you at a particular love motel at the appointed time?

Most will ONLY meet in love motels and not your hotel or airbnb. The independents on twitter or the foro may do your hotel but will be upsale. The appointment is very formal. You schedule the time and love motel and some are driven to thier dates by the agency. I have never been letdown. Just inform them of the room number and all is delivered. For me two hour dates are the best value for "GFE" in GDL.

6) Hotels: I tried to get a reservation at this place:

Portobelo Hotel is my favorite. Cheap on Hotels puto com.

[Quagmire1974]

Jasoonnn and GoneFishin.

Thanks to both of you for your quick replies. To give you both an idea of how my trip in December will probably go, I'll say that I'm a traveler first and a monger second. I travel to foreign countries to eat the local cuisine, see the sights, and be exposed to a different culture. And if I have enough time to pop a couple of nuts while I'm in a foreign country, I definitely take advantage of the opportunity to do so. Spanish-wise, I'm not fluent but I definitely don't need to rely 100 percent on Google Translate, either. I had three years of Spanish in high school and, without going into too much detail, live in an area of the United States where I'm exposed to Spanish and Hispanic people frequently.

Jasoonnn: How does the strip club situation work? I'm guessing you walk in, grab a beer, and have a seat. If you're interested in a girl who approaches you and you work out a deal, does the club just automatically write up a bill for her fee and the drinks and then have you pay the bill before you do the deed?

I'm definitely interested in a Telcel package. Since this will (likely) be my only trip to Guadalajara, I'm interested in a one-week-type Telcel package. Is there any particular name of that package?

You are more than welcome to send me a private message about Colombia. My trip report to Medellin is a year old, and although prices mentioned in my report have possibly increased since then, I'll be happy to offer whatever advice I can regarding that city, if you're going there, that is.

GoneFishin: I will keep the esteticas that you mentioned in mind. Might be fun just to visit one or two of them just for the experience alone.

The more you tell me about the agencies, and the more I look into them, the more I'm liking that option the best for GDL. Are there any others besides the three you mentioned that you prefer? Now, what if I call up an agency and make an appointment for a girl but don't yet have a reservation at a love motel? Will the agency make an appointment for me and just roll it into the total cost? My concern is that I would make a reservation at a love motel but wouldn't be able to make an appointment with the girl that I want.

Speaking of the girls, ideally, I'd want a two-hour session with DFK, DATY, and multiple pops. Are you limited with what you can do with the girl during your session? I did see that one of the agencies mentioned their girls don't do anal and don't have sessions without condoms (both fine with me). I just wouldn't want to be in a situation where I have two hours with a girl and it's a "one pop and your done" deal.

[GoneFishin]

Its best to reserve the girl for the time you need her and discuss the activities your interested in with the handler. Most don't do anal but some do. It is MSOG for all and I always went to the love motel 30 min before my date and whatsapp my room number. They will want to know your Motel (no reservation needed) before hand so the girl will arrive as close to on time as possible. My dates have always been punctual. You handle the motel yourself. The agencies don't recieve anything from the motels that I'm aware of. Its for the girls safety and privacy that they prefer motels over hotels / casas. I always reserved my girl the day before because some only do one date a day as they work a normal job and have a short span of time for dates.

GF.

[Jasoonnn]

Jasoonnn and GoneFishin.

Jasoonnn: How does the strip club situation work? I'm guessing you walk in, grab a beer, and have a seat. If you're interested in a girl who approaches you and you work out a deal, does the club just automatically write up a bill for her fee and the drinks and then have you pay the bill before you do the deed?

I'm definitely interested in a Telcel package. Since this will (likely) be my only trip to Guadalajara, I'm interested in a one-week-type Telcel package. Is there any particular name of that package?

You are more than welcome to send me a private message about Colombia. My trip report to Medellin is a year old, and although prices mentioned in my report have possibly increased since then, I'll be happy to offer whatever advice I can regarding that city, if you're going there, that is.For strip clubs, you can sit where you want, usually sitting right under the stage costs more, maybe minimum bottle purchase depending on the place. I am not too sure how the fee works with the club / girl, as I usually just get their number and wait till they are done their shift or meet them the next day. I'm assuming you would have to clear your bill and pay the exit / room fee if you want to take the girl right away.

Since you are only there a week, I would suggest just to get a pre-paid number. I think the SIM is like 50 pesos and comes with some minutes and data, that can be bought and topped up at any Oxxo or 7-eleven. I doubt they have have any 1 week plans, I haven't heard of any.

[Quagmire1974]

Its best to reserve the girl for the time you need her and discuss the activities your interested in with the handler. Most don't do anal but some do. It is MSOG for all and I always went to the love motel 30 min before my date and whatsapp my room number. They will want to know your Motel (no reservation needed) before hand so the girl will arrive as close to on time as possible. My dates have always been punctual. You handle the motel yourself. The agencies don't recieve anything from the motels that I'm aware of. Its for the girls safety and privacy that they prefer motels over hotels / casas. I always reserved my girl the day before because some only do one date a day as they work a normal job and have a short span of time for dates.

GF.Sounds like a great strategy, and it would be easy for me to do since for a week's vacation, I usually monger only about 1 to 3 times over the course of seven days.

Final question (for now): how widespread is english spoken among the agency handlers and staff at the love motels? I'm confident I could negotiate business with both of them, but of course, I'm more comfortable with English.

[GoneFishin]

Very little English spoken in GDL in general. Stick to the English speaking providers, bouguet is the only full English agency I know. Motels, only spoke Spanish never thought to try English as very few Tapatios speak it.

GF.

[MrThomas]

I remember there was a map for esteticas in GDL (2014 ish). Anyone know if that is still available?

[GoneFishin]

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?ll=20.683380143613512%2C-103.325783&msa=0&mid=1WRZHF1qsZ1NE6WOI2FrGFaG0exc&z=12

Here is the one I downloaded sometime ago. Some places closed or moved.

GF.

[JackRabet]

Being reluctant to drive into GDL from Chapala, I've been on the hunt for some local providers. Mileroticos seems to regularly have 2 or 3 providers advertising under Chapala.

A couple I have contacted are available via Whatsapp, which enables me to use Google translate to make contact. Both have insisted on payment for a first meeting, in advance, at Oxxo to a bank card they provide. I balked the first time but today the little head was doing the thinking.

I was given the name of a local hotel and instructed to send a pic of the payment receipt then proceed to the hotel.

We all know what happened next.

Whatsapp #'s were. 747-XXXX535 & +52 55 4XXXX604.

[Captain Solo]

The girl wasn't there, but there was a donkey grazing grass out front?

We need their complete wasapp numbers to set them up for dates with the body-boiling cartel guys.


I was given the name of a local hotel and instructed to send a pic of the payment receipt then proceed to the hotel.

We all know what happened next.

Whatsapp #'s were. 747-XXXX535 & +52 55 4XXXX604.

[Always09]

Guadalajara-Girls all pretty. Going to be short and precise.

Good Night clubs. But girls vary on the pricing of the drinks and club.

Men's club. Extremely beautiful and young girls but drinks are exp.

Has a lunh bufay from 2 to 7 I believe unlimited food and drinks. Body susi.

But you buy drinks for girls - 500 Pesos.

Cadillac. Less expensive but average girls.

Tapanko. Good girls. A bit expensive.

Foxy's. Need to go around 10:00 less girls but less customers also.

Be. Always forget the name. Good but does not accept CC.

Nan. Is in some basement of a shopping complex. More of couples and young crowd.

But also could be a hit for expats.

There are plenty more.

[JHS 42]

I'll be in Guadalajara next week for work staying at the Intercontinental and in meetings nearby. I'll be with a large group of co-workers and the days are packed with meetings and the nights will probably have dinners and drinking that run late into the night, so I don't think I can bring anyone back to the hotel or will I have opportunity to go very far away, at least not until very late, and I'm not sure how much walking around Guadalajara in the middle of the night alone I want to do. So I'm thinking choice is somewhere I can run out to quickly before dinner or during lunch or something. I won't have a car though there is always taxis or Uber if I have to. Is there anywhere good close by? The nearest I can see is Hobbie Inn. That doesn't look too far? Any suggestions?

[Gallo Ingles]

I'm thinking choice is somewhere I can run out to quickly before dinner or during lunch or something. I won't have a car though there is always taxis or Uber if I have to. Is there anywhere good close by? The nearest I can see is Hobbie Inn. That doesn't look too far? Any suggestions?There is a place not too far away on Lazaro Cardenas where they have some great selection during the day. The cost is a bit higher, but the quality is guaranteed (I think it is around $1500 mx).

The name of the place is Spanish for a type of haircut (crew cut), but it resembles an English word that won't pass muster with the filters on this site. It rhymes with "escape".

[GoneFishin]

I'll be in Guadalajara next week for work staying at the Intercontinental and in meetings nearby. Any suggestions?Your situation screams for it. Find one close by then order in from any of the vetted escort sites, twitter girls or local forum girls. Hobbie is the only place that stays open late hours.

Good luck.

GF.

[JHS 42]

Your situation screams for it. Find one close by then order in from any of the vetted escort sites, twitter girls or local forum girls. Hobbie is the only place that stays open late hours.

Good luck.

GF.Never got the opportunity, sadly--my co-workers seem very keen to spend as much time as possible in my presence, 24 hours a day, which is flattering but inconvenient. I will be back in a couple weeks, though, so maybe I'll get another shot. I don't have any experience with the motels--are they all essentially the same? Any suggestions in the area? It seems like I see them on the outskirts of town, but hadn't noticed them actually in the city.

[JHS 42]

There is a place not too far away on Lazaro Cardenas where they have some great selection during the day. The cost is a bit higher, but the quality is guaranteed (I think it is around $1500 mx).

The name of the place is Spanish for a type of haircut (crew cut), but it resembles an English word that won't pass muster with the filters on this site. It rhymes with "escape".Ah yes, I know the one. I'll keep it in mind. (I never knew that's what it meant in Spanish.).

[Quagmire1974]

Regarding love motels, here is an excellent post written by WorldTravel14 a few months ago. California Courts is right in the heart of Guadalajara, and is the motel I'll probably use during my upcoming week in GDL.


There has been debates for years among guys whether it is safe to bring a women who you don't even know to your motel where you have all your personal belongings. In a city like GDL where love motels are ridiculously cheap compared to what you get and they are spread all throughout the city, I think it's safer just to meet a Chica there. Plus most upper level escorts will only meet you at a motel for safety reasons.

I have used quite a few love motels and I have attached ones that I would recommend. I made it a point to visit different motels all around GDL to find my favorite. The way the love motels work are each room will have a garage that you can park in and then close the garage door. In the past I have walked up to them and also taken an Uber without an issue. The other way I have seen a motel entrance is they will have an entrance like a parking lot where you tell them what kind of room you want and then they assign you a room number. Once inside a room an employee will come to the side where there is a little slider where money / food can be exchanged..

[Quagmire1974]

Hey fellas,

Just want to give you all a quick heads up to say that I'm back from Guadalajara and will be posting a trip report here within the next few days. It was a really good trip and I'm looking forward to sharing what I learned and experienced with all of you sometime this week.

[Gagoo]

There is a place not too far away on Lazaro Cardenas where they have some great selection during the day. The cost is a bit higher, but the quality is guaranteed (I think it is around $1500 mx).

The name of the place is Spanish for a type of haircut (crew cut), but it resembles an English word that won't pass muster with the filters on this site. It rhymes with "escape".I am in Guadalajara now, and that place is on Google maps. I was just thinking how we could talk about a place with such a name. I wasn't sure if it was an Estetica though. I guess it is. It is spelled Rap and you have to add the letter E to the end of the word RAP. I am here 2 days. I might go check out "RAP"3. But I always have a look at Men's Paradise at least once every time I'm in Guadalajara.

[MrThomas]

I haven't really gone out much, just hit up a few esteticas. Probably my favorite where I did 3 (or 4?) sessions is Paloma VIP. Everyone's tastes are different, but I found them to have a better selection than other esteticas I checked out (including Barba Azul's, which never had more than 1-2 girls when I was there). I think Paloma VIP had 6-12 girls, they say the best time to go there is after 3 PM when a few more are on shift. $550 pesos mediahora, $950 una hora. Saturday before around 1 PM one day there was fewer girls (6?) but another Saturday around 4 they seemed to have everyone (10-12). For comparison, I haven't gone to the one that confuses the term filters.

One girl had the quite the fake breasts / fake ass while still being sli. Another flaquita had that exotic look which I dig. Another exotic looking one was younger / cuter than most I see in the esteticas. All had signs of childbirth though, that didn't really bother me. I wouldn't say drop your plans and go there, but if you're checking out esteticas its one I would check out. Its typical estetica service, not particularly GFE but some did BBBJ / kiss with a tip of 100-150. The first I did see for an hour, while it was fun it was really only 40-45 minutes with some time wasted but a minimal massage, so I just do the half-hour now.

Paloma Vip.
Av Ninos Heroes 2167.

[Gagoo]

I'm typing this on my phone, so I'll be much shorter than usual.

I went to Men's Paradise today at 7 PM. There were only 2 girls, one was busy though. I didn't really like the one girl that was available. I met a Brazilian girl there before and a young local girl that was awesome. I asked the guy and he said the Brazilian girl will be working tomorrow. She has always given me a love making session. She is older now, probably about 29 now, but she has a very nice natural body. Wonderful tits and ass. I'll see if she is indeed there tomorrow.

After I left there, I walked to Oasis. I went there before and it was only OK. This time was pretty good. It seems like you are given the next girl in line unless you ask for someone. I was taken to the room and only allowed to chose the woman that I took, but I did see another one sitting around. I think this is what happened last time I came here. Anyways the girl was cute, but she had fake everything. I was going to to say no and leave, but she said the price includes kissing and "oral natural" a BJ with no condom. I reconfirmed what she just said, and I agreed.

The price is. Pricey. 1,200 pesos for it was either 40 minutes or 45 minutes. The rooms are pretty decent, and thr room was cool. It had central air. She actually gave me pretty good service. She probably had ever fake part available though, but for her ass I think she just had the fat sucked out of her stomach and put in her ass. Her body looked exactly like a Colombian woman with all the surgeries done. She had a good attitude though. She told me when I left that if I come back, only ask for her name. Violeta. Ha! When we left the room another guy and woman left a room. This woman was really good looking. She is a premium looking natural young lady. I didn't have a chance to ask her name though. I like the service and BBBJ and kissing, but with all the fake parts, I wouldn't go back for her 2 days in a row.

[Quagmire1974]

Hey fellas,

Here's the first half of my Guadalajara trip report. Before I begin, I want to thank everyone who contributed to the Guadalajara thread. Special thanks goes out to GoneFishin and Jasoonnn, who directly answered my questions on the thread and / or corresponded with me through private messages. All of the contributions ensured that I had a smooth trip with no surprises or hiccups.

1) Book: I used the Lonely Planet Mexico guidebook, which was just updated in September 2016. The information about sights in Guadalajara, Chapala, Ajijic, and Tequila was accurate and excellent, as were the restaurant recommendations for those areas.

2) Lodging: I stayed in La Perla Hotel Boutique Bed and Breakfast:

http://www.laperlagdl.com/

Now, you wouldn't think that a place that partially describes itself as a bed and breakfast would be chica friendly, but that isn't the case with this hotel. In fact, it explicitly states on their website "you are welcome to have visitors at La Perla. You must accompany your guests at all times and you are responsible for your guests. " I confirmed this with the owner of La Perla (a white guy named Lorenzo) at around the same time I made my reservation.

After I arrived in Guadalajara and checked in, I made it known to Lorenzo that I planned to do a little mongering in addition to my tourism activities. He was completely fine with this and mentioned La Perla was no stranger to mongers. In fact, he told me the story about how three guys arrived from overseas and rented the entire hotel for a weekend. The guys had a party on the pleasant rooftop of the hotel and invited 30 local girls over to party. The girls that were judged to be beautiful were allowed to stay and party and maybe get fucked that night. The girls that were judged to be unattractive were sent right back out the front door of the hotel.

Now, there's one caveat. If being around gay people makes you uncomfortable, you will not want to stay at La Perla because Lorenzo and the hotel staff are openly gay. In fact, La Perla used to service a mainly gay clientele in the past, but nowadays 60% of the guests are gay and 40% are straight. I never felt uncomfortable at any time and Lorenzo and his staff were some of the nicest people I've ever encountered while staying in hotels overseas. The level of service I experienced at the hotel was far and above the best I've ever received in traveling through 25 different countries since 2008.

3) Phone: to get Telcel service for your unlocked smartphone, go to the Telcel office located at Av. Chapultepec Sur 408, Sector Juarez. Go into the office and tell the attendant sitting at a booth near the front door that you need cellular service. He / she will give you a number corresponding to an employee sitting at the customer service window with the same number. Tell the employee that you need cellular service. You will likely be shown the following plans:

http://www.telcel.com/personas/telefonia/amigo/todavia-no-tienes-amigo#!tarifas.

Once you select your service plan, you will then be sent to the cashier where you will pay for your plan. Once this is done, return to the employee assisting you, where they will set up the plan on your smartphone. The entire process of selecting, paying, and set up should take less than 30 minutes. Note: you will need to show your passport to the employee when purchasing your plan.

I selected 9 dias (9 days) of service for 50 Pesos. Since I also needed a SIM card, I paid an additional 79 Pesos for a total cost of 129 Pesos. I received unlimited messages, calls, and 1000 mb of data. By a pure stroke of luck, I interacted with the only Telcel employee (Ms. Karina Aguirre) who spoke very good English. Just to be sure everything went smoothly, I also brought along Adrian, one of the employees from La Perla, who is fluent in both English and Spanish.

4) Money: casas de cambio (money exchange booths) are located on Lopez Cotilla east of Av. 16 de Septiembre. You will need to show your passport only if attempting to exchange more than $1,000 US. Since all of the rates are usually the same at the casas de cambio, choose the one that looks more secure and safe to you.

5) Excursions: if you have a significant amount of time in Guadalajara and need a break from mongering, I recommend the following fun activities:

Lucha Libre (Mexican wrestling): is held Sundays at 6 PM and Tuesdays at 9 PM at Arena Coliseo de Guadalajara at Medrano #67, Barrio de Analco. Tickets are priced depending on where you want to sit inside the arena. For the Sunday show, I paid 160 Pesos (130 Pesos ticket + 30 Pesos service charge) to sit in Row 1 Seat 3, while on Tuesday I paid 240 Pesos (200 Pesos ticket + 40 Pesos service charge) to sit in Row 2 Seat 13. I had no problems showing up 45 minutes before the start of the shows and buying my tickets at the box office. Matches last about two hours, and food / beverages are constantly sold ringside, so you'll never have to leave your seat to go to the concession stand. Note: cameras and video recorders are not allowed inside the arena. If you want to take pictures / video of the matches, you can do so with your smartphone, which are allowed inside the arena. Matches on Tuesday are wilder and more exciting than on Sunday. If you want to get just a little taste of lucha libre in a calmer environment, go on Sunday. If you want to completely immerse yourself in the full lucha libre experience (and have a lot more fun) with a raucous crowd, go on Tuesday.

Tequila Tour: I chose Mickey Marantes:

tequilatourbymickeymarentes.com

The tour cost $125 US and lasted about 10 hours. The tour guide, Rocio, took our group (myself and a couple from Germany) to two different distilleries in the town of Tequila where (A lot of!) tequila was tasted. We also had lunch in Tequila and about 30 to 45 minutes of free time afterwards before we returned to Guadalajara. Since Rocio was an excellent guide, I gave her a 200 Peso tip at the conclusion of the tour. I guarantee that by the end of the tour, you'll know pretty much everything there is to know about tequila.

That's it for now. In part 2, which I'll write probably sometime this weekend, I'll discuss the love motel I used, the two sessions I had, and the chicas I targeted for sessions that never materialized.

[MrThomas]

Earlier I posted VIP Paloma was my preferred estetica so far. Well I ended up having a very good session at Men's Paradise (1200 pesos a session / hour). I think I had also gone there a few years ago and then had very GFE service, so I want to check it out again soon. They only had two girls when I went (after 5 PM) so like any estetica its better to get there earlier.

I met up with a fellow board member to go check out some strip clubs. I don't really like going to such clubs by myself, but was curious what the scene was so I was glad to find someone else interested in checking it out. We went to Lipstick first. I've never seen many girls there, but have probably been going at the wrong time / days. Maybe Friday Saturday after 11 are best, and / or around payday. Allegedly there is a private room for full service here, I don't know. There weren't many girls when we went so we left.

Next we went to Cesar's Club, a strip club. 200 peso entrance included a free lapdance (2 minutes). 60 beers, 120 mixed drinks, 300 chica drinks and 300 for a 3 minute lapdance (there are more expensive options too of course). It was fun but not really my thing, I was more interested if with a little investment if I could get some girls numbers, and I couldn't.

[Quagmire1974]

Hey fellas,

So here's part 2 of my recent trip to Guadalajara. Sorry for the delay, but after all, it's the week of Christmas:

1) Partying: I forgot to mention while discussing La Perla Hotel Boutique Bed and Breakfast that the raucous bars and restaurants on Av. Chapultepec are located only a ten minute walk from the hotel. This tidbit might be beneficial for you mongers who are fluent in Spanish and are interested in attempting to poach a local girl for a session.

2) Medication: I purchased 12 tablets of 100 milligram generic sildenafil at Farmacias Benavides on Av. Chapultepec Sur 249 for 418.50 Pesos. I did not need a prescription to make the purchase.

3) Love motel: I used Motel California Courts for two sessions:

http://www.californiacourts.com.mx/main/

This love motel was only a 25 minute walk from La Perla. Getting a room was a little more intimidating than I thought it was going to be. When I walked up to the motel at 3 pm on a Monday, I discovered that you have to interact with reception through an intercom and one-way glass window, meaning, the employees in reception can see you but you can't see them. My Spanish is decent but not excellent, and after a little miscommunication I secured a Habitacion Torre sin Cochera, a basic room without a garage. I went to the room (109), turned on the television and air conditioner, and waited. After about 10 minutes, I called reception on the motel phone and stated that I needed to pay. An employee knocked on the door two minutes later and requested 380 Pesos for the room for 12 hours. Wow, what a bargain! She also asked if I needed food or drink but I had stopped at the Oxxo (Mexico's version of 7 Eleven) across the street from California Courts and bought a bottle of water.

For my next session on Friday, the process of getting a room was a little simpler. I got to California Courts around 9 pm and the place was packed, with quite a few people sitting in their cars and waiting for a room. This time, an employee was standing next to the intercom / glass window and directing customers where to go. Again I requested a Habitacion Torre sin Cochera and was sent to room 208. I paid another 380 Pesos but this time I had the room for only 8 hours instead of 12.

Both rooms I had were basic but clean, with king-size bed, two pillows, a small table and two cushioned stools, air conditioner, and small bathroom. A television was also provided with (I think) three channels of free porn movies. There was also a menu in the room with which you could order food and drinks. Since no keys are provided when you get the room, you simply leave after you're done or your time is expired.

4) Session 1: Thanks to ISG member GoneFishin, I had a thorough look at Joyeux before I arrived in Guadalajara:

http://www.joyeux.com.mx/

And I decided that Akane Smith was the target for my first session:

http://www.joyeux.com.mx/chicas.php?cat=191

So on a Monday, I texted Joyeux through WhatsApp around 1 pm and secured an appointment with Akane for 4 pm to 6 pm. I was quoted one hour for 1700 Pesos and two hours for 3200 Pesos. I got to California Courts around 3 pm, got a room, and texted Joyeux my room number (109) through WhatsApp. When Akane arrived at the motel, reception called me to ask if I was expecting another person. I said yes and then they hung up the phone. About a minute later, there was a knock on the door and Akane stepped in. We exchanged pleasantries, she asked for payment, and then stepped briefly outside to give the money to a male handler who had accompanied her to the appointment. He left and then she walked into the room and closed and locked the door.

This girl was beautiful and a total spinner! About 5 feet tall, 100 pounds, tight body with not an ounce of fat anywhere, large and perky Bee-cup tits and a round bubble butt. She was wearing a lacy black dress and wedge heels, and took that off to reveal a black bra and burgundy lacy thong. She has a large (but tasteful) rocket tattoo on the upper and outer portion of her right leg. Her Joyeux profile states she is 18 but she told me she is now 19 years old. She had nice teeth and lips and didn't smoke. Over the course of two hours, there was kissing (but not DFK), plenty of DATY, mish, and reverse cowgirl. I popped three times and there was no problem using the Trojan Bare skin condoms that I had brought with me. She was very relaxed and not in a rush. My only complaint is that she had a bit of dragon breath going on during the session, and I so badly wanted to give her a mint or stick of gum to kill it off. Still, I would repeat if given the chance but would be sure to bring gum or mints next time.

That's it for now. In part 3, which I'll write sometime this week, I'll discuss a session that didn't go exactly as I had hoped.

[Quagmire1974]

Hey fellas,

So here's the third and final part of my recent trip to Guadalajara. On a side note, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! May your mongering in 2017 be even better than it was in 2016.

1) Session 2: After my session with Akane Smith on Monday, I had planned to monger again around the middle of the week. Unfortunately, after my session with Akane, I went out to a local restaurant, ate a big platter of greasy meat, and nearly immediately went to bed. By 5 o'clock the next morning, it was coming (violently!) out of both ends of me, and I ended up having a queasy and unsettled stomach for nearly the remainder of my stay in Guadalajara.

On Friday, I felt a lot better and decided I would give mongering in Guadalajara another shot. But first, I took a day trip to Chapala and Ajijic and by the time I got back to Guadalajara, it was around 6 pm. Having pulled Akane Smith from Joyeux, and not interested in pulling any other chicas from that site, I turned my attention to Paramour and tried to pull a chica from there:

http://paramourgdl.com/

Unfortunately, after just a couple of messages with them through WhatsApp, I discovered that all of their talent already had appointments for the night. Luckily, I had discovered a few independents through Twitter and Skorto that I thought might be interesting to try. I exchanged a few messages through WhatsApp with Karen from Skorto:

https://mx.skorto.com/escorts-en-mexico

https://mx.skorto.com/escorts/Mexico-Guadalajara/3803/karen-yo-no-ocupo-ponerte-fotos-de-extranjeras-yo-soy-tapatia

After a few minutes and a few messages, we agreed on 2 hours of MSOG for 2500 Pesos. I went to California Courts, got the room, and texted Karen the room number.

Karen arrived 20 minutes early. She walked into the room and was completely different than the chica in the pictures on Skorto. That's right, fellas, the old Bait-and-Switch routine! This is the girl who showed up:

https://www.facebook.com/miriamgriselda.cuevasmunguia?fref=ts

If that Facebook link doesn't work for some reason, just do a search on Facebook for Miriam Griselda Cuevas Munguia.

We exchanged pleasantries and I discovered that she does speak a little English. I was miffed that she wasn't the chica I was expecting, but as she got undressed my interest in her rose quickly. She was 26, about 5'2" tall and about 120 pounds with small Cee-cup titties, a tight body, and a perky and juicy bubble butt that was better than Akane Smith's. The only body flaw she had was a slightly visible Cesarean section scar on her abdomen from when she had a child a few years ago.

We slip into bed and I soon discover that kissing and DATY isn't included in the 2500 Pesos I've already paid. After a couple of questions, she suggests a propina (tip) of 500 Pesos for kissing and DATY. Big whoop, 500 Pesos is $25 US so I paid it and started exploring this Tapatia with great curves. After about 20 minutes of foreplay and action, I pop in mish.

And this is when the session really started to go wrong. Immediately after I pop, she grabs her phone and starts texting other clients for late-night sessions (it's about 9:15 pm at this point). At first, I don't mind because I just popped and need time to recover. But after relaxing for a few minutes, I start getting warmed up again and want to play. She, however, acts uninterested and continues to text on her phone, which is ringing off every 30 seconds or so with texts from other potential clients.

After several minutes of gently complaining, she briefly puts down her phone, grabs one of my Trojan Bareskin condoms, and starts giving me a CBJ. After about a minute, she picks up her phone and starts texting with her left hand while giving me a CBJ with her mouth and right hand! I'm fully aroused and she mounts me cowgirl-style. Does she ride my hard cock like a champion? No, she does some sort of back and forth grinding motion with her hips while still texting on her phone! I go limp after about a minute and I'm pretty fucking irritated at this point but keep my cool.

She climbs down off of me and lays on her back. I make some sort of comment about having paid for two hours and her not paying much attention to me, and she doesn't say anything, she only keeps texting. I'm really irritated but I relax and there's porn on the television so after a couple of minutes, I get hard and glove-up with another Trojan. She puts down her phone and I motion for her to lay across the center of the bed. I push her phone under the pillow and out of her reach, push balls-deep into her, and for the next 7 minutes, absolutely pound her pussy in mish until I pop hard.

I pull out and collapse beside her, and she gets up and takes a two-minute shower. I decide that I want a shower, too, and I take one for five minutes after she's out of the stall. By the time I get out, she's dressed, says "Bye, amor" and is about to walk out the door! I notice my clothes on the padded stool are a little displaced, so I tell her to wait while I check to make sure my wallet and all my money is still in my pant's pocket. I still have a full hour left in the session and I tell her this, but she just laughs. Figuring after that second good nut that it was going to be at least another hour before I could pop again, and still irritated about her focusing on her phone the entire time, I kiss her on the cheek, let her walk out the door, and leave the room myself after another ten minutes.

So I paid 3000 Pesos for one hour of mediocre service. Since ISG is funny about not letting people post phone numbers in threads, all I'll say is that the last four digits of the agency she was working with are 6665, and the last digits of her personal phone number are 740.

2) Final thoughts: I really think Guadalajara is a hidden mongering gem. The strength of the Dollar against the Peso, the ease with which you can contact reputable agencies like Paramour and Joyeux through WhatsApp and arrange sessions, and the low cost of love motels like California Courts make Guadalajara a prime hunting ground. Since I was sick nearly the entire time I was there, I'm really considering heading back to Guadalajara sometime in 2017 and tie up the ends I left loose. Probably what I would do is fly into GDL on a Sunday, monger Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday, and then fly out on Thursday because demand for the chicas and love motel rooms would be low on those days in my humble opinion.

So that's it, guys. If anyone has a question about part 1, 2, or 3 of my trip report, feel free to ask publicly or send me a private message if you have the ability to do so.

[HeadFirst80]

I'm planning a trip in a month or so. I see lot of good info here. Thank you for sharing.

Some questions I still don't find satisfactory answer to. Is it safe to bring escort to your hotel? Reading the forum there seem to be some discussion on it but may be if you can share which ones were safer to bring to your hotel and which ones were not good to bring?

Also, as of current situation how hard is it for someone to get around who doesn't have his own rental vehicle? Any recommendations on how to get to these places?

[Quagmire1974]

I'm planning a trip in a month or so. I see lot of good info here. Thank you for sharing.

Some questions I still don't find satisfactory answer to. Is it safe to bring escort to your hotel? Reading the forum there seem to be some discussion on it but may be if you can share which ones were safer to bring to your hotel and which ones were not good to bring?

Also, as of current situation how hard is it for someone to get around who doesn't have his own rental vehicle? Any recommendations on how to get to these places?It's not really a question of safety. If you decide to session with a girl from Paramour or Joyeux, you will have to session with her at a love motel like Motel California Courts because she will not go to your hotel, even if it is chica friendly. And when I was in Guadalajara, I didn't have a rental car. I simply stayed in the historic center at La Perla Hotel Boutique Bed and Breakfast and walked to where I wanted to go. If it was too far to walk, I had an employee at La Perla contact an Uber taxi for me.

[Johnny Drama]

I'm planning a trip in a month or so. I see lot of good info here. Thank you for sharing.

Some questions I still don't find satisfactory answer to. Is it safe to bring escort to your hotel? Reading the forum there seem to be some discussion on it but may be if you can share which ones were safer to bring to your hotel and which ones were not good to bring?

Also, as of current situation how hard is it for someone to get around who doesn't have his own rental vehicle? Any recommendations on how to get to these places?I think the consensus amongst the forum is most GDL hotels are GF. I can only speak to my experiences at Demetria and Square, but no problems at either of those properties.

I only use Uber when I'm in GDL. Cars are everywhere and very inexpensive (I. E. Like $10 from my hotel to the airport). Why use anything else?

[GoneFishin]

I think the consensus amongst the forum is most GDL hotels are GF. I only use Uber when I'm in GDL. Cars are everywhere and very inexpensive (I. E. Like $10 from my hotel to the airport). Why use anything else?I agree with JD, I mostly use Hotel Portobelo and Hotel Six, no problems. Worse is they call your room if its ok to send chica up. Uber is cheapest and convenient and all hours. Tapitias Caliente is an Agency that will send chicas to your hotel, others have a strict love motel only policy. Action is mostly from noon to midnight. Esteticas day action only and escorts all hours before 12 am. Very little action outside of table bars (strip clubs) after midnight. If you do want an escort after 9 pm, best to confirm with agency early in the day.

GF.

[Quagmire1974]

Hey fellas,

Just want to announce that I'm seriously considering returning to Guadalajara for a few days in early March. Being sick for several days during my time in GDL back in December and not mongering as much as I wanted to, combined with some fresh talent advertised on the Paramour and Joyeux websites, has my desire to go back at a pretty high level. If / when I get my plans firmed up, I'll let you all know. In the mean time, monger safely, and keep those trip reports coming.

[HeadFirst80]

I agree with JD, I mostly use Hotel Portobelo and Hotel Six, no problems. Worse is they call your room if its ok to send chica up. Uber is cheapest and convenient and all hours. Tapitias Caliente is an Agency that will send chicas to your hotel, others have a strict love motel only policy. Action is mostly from noon to midnight. Esteticas day action only and escorts all hours before 12 am. Very little action outside of table bars (strip clubs) after midnight. If you do want an escort after 9 pm, best to confirm with agency early in the day.

GF.Thanks for the info everyone. I heard in latest news something about strikes due to oil prices. Is the Guad still safe place to monger or should it be on hold for sometime? Any info will be appreciated to stay safe.

[El Mojado]

Hey everyone! Been some time since I have posted! I just returned from a trip to Mexico and enjoyed spending some quality time at Danny's Estetica. There are a lot more esteticas now but Danny's is still my favorite. Capricho still works there, she's extremely enthusiastic! She's not the most beautiful, but dang she will ride you like a hurricane and leave you hot, wet and relaxed. She also gets off on getting her ass slapped hard. The harder the better! (well within reason you know She doesn't really speak English. Just a tiny bit. Right now Capricho has semi-short blonde hair. It's does a cute flip. Very nice ass if you like them pumpable. : the And slappable!

Another woman worth mentioning is Nicole. She's a cute little spinner, about 24 years old. She speaks quite fluent English. She's a sweet short thing and she prides herself on not having a scent. She doesn't use perfume or colognes and she uses some kind of natural deodorant and says her regular clients appreciate that. So if you have some aversion to strong scents or perfumes and want a more 'all natural' gal, Nicole is a great option.

Neither Capricho no Nicole have fake boobs, they're all natural women!

Ok now as to the hours. If you get to Danny's by 8:30 PM, they will honor your hour and run late. If you call them and ask if they will remain open for you after 8:30 PM, provided you can get there within 10 or 20 minutes, they'll stick around. You will not have as many women to choose from, but I do know Capricho stays late. She tends to arrive around 4:30 PM so she's the evening shift. Nicole tends to leave around 6 PM and she arrives sometimes when they open at 10 AM.

I asked the gal that runs the phones (she doesn't do services) and she said that there are about 26 women working there now, but they're not all there at the same time of course. So you really have a lot to choose from. I believe this is happening at all Esteticas. The economic situation in Mexico is driving more ladies into the 'workforce', so enjoy fellow Mongers. Plus the Mexican Peso hit an all time record of 22 Pesos to the $1 USD before ending at 21.50. It's likely going to keep weakening against the dollar. The prices are staying pat at $600 pesos for 1 full hour of full service sex. That's just under $28 USD for an hour of full service (with condom) sex! Quite worth it!

I pretty much bounced between these two providers when I was there and went with Capricho most often. Nicole is great but she's tiny. I liked pounding Capricho as hard as I wanted and not worrying about causing any 'damage' to Nicole. Nicole was more like a delicate flower that you can 'deflower' but not put so much power into the 'deflowering'. Nicole does have a really awesome sexual position that I had never tried before. She can really get herself revved up going that way, and I'll let you discover that for yourselves if you ever go with her. Just ask for her 'Special Position' (Posicion Especial). Anyway, she speaks fluent English. You can't miss with that. She can even help with another girl if you choose to do two at once for $600 pesos, but you only get a half an hour with them total. That is a nice way to 'branch' into another provider and explain what you want.

OK mongers, enjoy and hope this helps! You can find Danny's by doing a search in here. It's on Avenida de La Paz between Calle Belgica and Enrique Diaz de Leon, opposite from the Vegetarian restaurant called El Jardin. That's a pretty decent restaurant too, the lunch buffet is great! Lots of restaurants in the general area if you look around. I even found a place that serves a mug of Leon dark draft beer for $10 Pesos! That's less than 50 cents USD! I had two of those and was quite on my way to 'happy'.

[El Mojado]

On my last trip I stayed at an Airbnb that happened to be within easy walking distance of Danny's Estetica and other Esteticas in that area. I found the one that cost $10 USD a night and it was great! I had my own room in a two bedroom apartment. The guy who advertised spoke great English and was very friendly and I had run of the apartment. I could use the washing machine, refrigerator, stove and microwave. Drying clothes was limited to hanging them up to dry. I actually didn't have much to wash so I handwashed my clothes 'old school style' in a cement basin that is amazingly smooth and a built in feature in many old buildings. If I had stayed longer I would have used the washer.

The really cool thing is that the longer your stay, the lower the price depending on where you pick to stay. Some places offer very decent discounts for staying a week or two weeks, etc. This really helped me have more money available for mongering, although I brought more than enough money with me to monger twice a day every day I was there if I wanted to. I probably could have brought a girl to the apartment if I wanted to, my listing accepted two people in the room and I casually mentioned to the host half jokingly about it and he actually said that as long as I was responsible for things that would be OK. It was his living space too, so I figured I'd just keep my activities to the estetica.

Anyway, it was my 3rd time using Airbnb in Mexico and this was by far the best in terms of price, location and overall quality of the place. Fast internet too. Can't beat that for $10 USD a night! Most of the time I had the entire place to myself. The guy worked and had a girlfriend so he was out a lot. And I used Uber to get around, aside from short trips on the bus to downtown to buy things and see how they've torn up the area near the Cathedral for the subway system they're putting in. It's pretty bad, looks like they dropped a WWII era bomb on the whole area, it's all dug up. They're doing a lot of construction in Guadalajara and they're going about it in a really stupid way. Everything at once, so they don't have the manpower to finish any jobs quickly and that translates into getting around on foot being better than taking a cab or bus or uber at times. It will be wonderful when they are done, but getting there won't be fun for anyone.

OK, that's the final part I wanted to mention.

[Alliwantislove]

Thanks for the many great reports here.

Do the esteticas generally have showers? If so do you shower alone or will your chica assist you in the shower?

Also. My MO in Argentina has been to find a girl I like at a massage place and then make an arrangement to see her at my apartment. For a lower per hour cost of course. Do any of you know if that is possible in GDL? From what I have read I'd guess that the girl would be willing to see you only at a love motel, but that would be ok.

Gracias,

Bob.

[GoneFishin]

Still currently in GDL, there are sporadic protests of the gasoline price increase but all peaceful and has not affected my day one bit. All the estiticas I have visited have showers and since I prefer to shower alone cannot comment whether the chicas will shower with you. My guess they will if asked although some showers were to small for 2. For outside dates is hard to say as many work days and will be with family afterwards. Best is just to ask if you click with one.

Been hearing about 2 places with chicas that were not the normal mongering scene so decided to explore abit. First is called Wn business club. It's on the second floor of Centro Magno, Av. Ignacio Luis Vallarta 2425, Arcos Vallarta 331XXXX623. Small mall with an elephant statue out front. Its an executive type place so don't go with shorts. Very nice club, international dining and good bar selection. Many chicas there to entertain you while you eat and drink. More like a hostess bar in Asia. If you invite a girl to dine / drink with you the prices are the same. Thursday they have a theme party but did not go experience that as of yet. If you spend alot of time in GDL may be worth the challenge to get to know one of the girls for a outside date. Otherwise the ribeye I enjoyed with some nice conversation with a lovely senorita.

Roxy's, Av Espana 2095, Moderna. I thought it might be a hostess type club as well but was a strip club. Unique in a way as there are no stages. On the main floor there is a runway of sorts that the girls use to dance. Since its floor level you get a good view of their assets. Nice small club, no cover and sex on site was a little pricey at 2700 for half hour.

Taptiacalientes agency is having an anniversary, discounting all chicas for the month. Tried a few, Ashley and Luna, both did the job but would not repeat. I would say at price point was a good value for agency chicas.

Explored the town of Tequila for fun. Nice place to spend the half day.

GF.

[Quagmire1974]

Been hearing about 2 places with chicas that were not the normal mongering scene so decided to explore abit. First is called Wn business club. Its on the second floor of Centro Magno, Av. Ignacio Luis Vallarta 2425, Arcos Vallarta 3317518623. Small mall with an elephant statue out front. Its an executive type place so don't go with shorts. Very nice club, international dining and good bar selection. Many chicas there to entertain you while you eat and drink. More like a hostess bar in Asia. If you invite a girl to dine / drink with you the prices are the same. Thursday they have a theme party but did not go experience that as of yet. If you spend alot of time in GDL may be worth the challenge to get to know one of the girls for a outside date. Otherwise the ribeye I enjoyed with some nice conversation with a lovely senorita.

Taptiacalientes agency is having an anniversary, discounting all chicas for the month. Tried a few, Ashley and Luna, both did the job but would not repeat. I would say at price point was a good value for agency chicas.Found that club on Facebook. Looks like Wednesday night is Lingerie Night!

https://www.facebook.com/wnrestaurante/

And it's located about two blocks from Motel California Courts. Wouldn't be surprised if you can have a nice steak at the club and then take a chica to the Motel for dessert.

Tapatias Calientes appears to be here:

http://tapatiascalientes.com/web/

Most of the girls are a little too gordita and vieja for my tastes. Any particular reasons why you wouldn't repeat?

[GoneFishin]

http://tapatiascalientes.com/web/

Most of the girls are a little too gordita and vieja for my tastes. Any particular reasons why you wouldn't repeat?Luna, was energetic but a little to talky for me and is a nursing student with very specific hours of availability. They other was from Buenos Aires and even though we had good chemistry she seemed new to the business. I don't like to break them in. I prefer to leave that to others.

GF.

[Quagmire1974]

I don't like to break them in. I prefer to leave that to others.And I'm the exact opposite. I like them 18 or 19 years old because they're usually new to the game and will let me take control in the bedroom. From my experience, once a chica hits her early to mid 20's and has been in the game a few years, she's burned out, bitter, jaded, and tries to control the session. Nothing is a bigger turnoff to me than to walk into a casita and have two or three girls run up and start grabbing my crotch. That happened to me in Sint Maarten and I ended up having a session with a chica who had the right curves in the right places and who just quietly walked into the casita and sat down.

[GoneFishin]

And I'm the exact opposite.We all have our preferences, I like that sweet spot when they begin to understand how to be a courtesan and before they get jaded. So you break them in and I will ride them when they are ready to go that extra mile.

GF.

[Alliwantislove]

Thanks for your reply GF.

Bob.

[Quagmire1974]

Hey fellas,

Just want to pass along that I'm booked for a return trip to Guadalajara during the first week of March. I don't have any tourist activities planned and this will be solely a mongering trip. Joyeux and Paramour recently added new girls to their lineups and Joyeux now offers service on Saturday. So there should be plenty of talent to keep me occupied.

[HeadFirst80]

I tried out Taptiacalientes as per some info from the forum. Overall good experience, got a very skinny light weight Tapatia and was no hassle scheduling or bringing to hotel.

One thing to note though was, I stayed in hotel little south and apt was around midnight, so hotel charged me "double occupant" fee. Seemed more like an extortion but I just went with it. Next time may have to find a better hotel!

[Juan Carter]

I can find no ISG reviews for Nikki Benz but local forums rave about her. Has anyone seen her yet? I have yet to do a Zona Divas girl. Despite her $2500/$3,000 pesos an hour price, her reviews are so great that I will try to schedule her as she she will be in Guadalajara when I am there later this month. She has listings on ZonaDivas.com and Twitter. Oral natural, DFK, la colita; what's not to like? Her taglines include "have a party in my mouth" and "I give better tit jobs than Sharapova's mother".

[Juan Carter]

The best experience I had last summer was with Connie Garcia. Find her Rincon de Las Sorts posts on http://sexxxyprovincia.forumfree.it/ and as Andrea Neri on xvideos.com and twitter (two listings). She charged me $1,000 pesos with oral natural at my hotel. PM me for her WhatsApp #. There are additional reviews. She has orthodontic problems (braces to correct) but face and body that match her outstanding service. I will definitely repeat when in GDL this month.

[HeadFirst80]

Based on other recent reviews also tried Danny's. Choices were good between 6-8 so initially it was looking good.

My mistake was I picked one of the better looking one. Ironic it may seem, but the better looking are the ones with attitude issue and that's a huge turn down for me. She was no GFE at all and seemed very mechanical. Needless to say we ran out of time without any conclusive results. The name escapes me at the moment as I didn't bother remembering it.

[JHS 42]

I found myself with just one night in Guadalajara, with a really really early flight the next morning, and almost decided against trying to find any company since it was a long day and an early morning the next morning. But temptation got the better of me and decided to try Tapatias Calientes, as they'd come straight to my hotel and save the step of heading to a motel, especially given how late it was going to be. I made arrangements the day before via WhatsApp, and confirmed during the day the next day (I'm a big fan of using WhatsApp for arrangements, this was my first time with that at even though my Spanish is okay, it's easy to get lost on the phone and WhatsApp made it really easy). To see Alondra. All seemed ok, until a hour before, when I got a message from the agency saying that she was delayed, and would be an hour late. This was later than I wanted, but I said sure. The new time arrived, and nobody showed up. I checked with the angency and they assured me she was on her way. We went back and forth like this for quite a while, before he finally gave up and conceded that she wasn't coming (he forwarded a bunch of text message screen caps showing her saying she was on her way when she wasn't). For not showing up the agency guy said he would fire Alondra the next day though I notice she is still on the website. He apologized profusely, and said he'd make it up the next day, but I said I wasn't going to be there. However by this point my mind was already set on doing this, so I asked if there was anyone available at that late time. He found me Sheila, which was impressive at that late hour--by the time she arrived it was 12:30 am (but he sent the Uber info, and it was clear that she had hit the road within 10 minutes of getting the call, so I knew she was on the way and she made it quickly). He promised me I wouldn't be disappointed. I wasn't. (he also offered me the rate from the original girl, which was MXN $1900, rather than Sheila's regular rate of MXN $2500, for 2 hour. (Bronze v Gold).

Sheila was tiny, 18, and gorgeous (pics without faces are on the agency site--not sure they really do her justice). She was friendly but a little quiet and awkward (which probably wasnt helped by my awkward Spanish but also seemed like inexperienced--she was impressed with the hotel and seemed to have never have had champagne before). In this sense, the GFE aspect was a little lacking compared to some other experiences, and the kisses were a bit reserved and half-hearted. However, her technique (particularly oral) was absolutely great, and she was smoking hot and up for whatever I suggested, including CIM and COF which I am fan of. She was fine with several rounds, which was good because between her being great at oral (natural), super tight, and super hot I couldn't manage to last that long with her. By the end she started paying a little more attention to her phone than I'd have liked (I should make them lock the phones away at the beginning) but she actually stayed longer than two hours and the experience overall was really good. By the time she was showered (with me) and dressed, I had packed up and after walking her to her Uber I just checked out and caught a taxi to the airport tired but happy.

[HeadFirst80]

I had time very late in the night also, but using this agency they delivered and girl was at the hotel within an hour. My experience had been better, girl spoke very little English but did try all she could to make me comfortable.


I found myself with just one night in Guadalajara, with a really really early flight the next morning, and almost decided against trying to find any company since it was a long day and an early morning the next morning. But temptation got the better of me and decided to try Tapatias Calientes, as they'd come straight to my hotel and save the step of heading to a motel, especially given how late it was going to be. I made arrangements the day before via WhatsApp, and confirmed during the day the next day (I'm a big fan of using WhatsApp for arrangements, this was my first time with that at even though my Spanish is okay, it's easy to get lost on the phone and WhatsApp made it really easy). To see Alondra. All seemed ok, until a hour before, when I got a message from the agency saying that she was delayed, and would be an hour late. This was later than I wanted, but I said sure. The new time arrived, and nobody showed up. I checked with the angency and they assured me she was on her way. We went back and forth like this for quite a while, before he finally gave up and conceded that she wasn't coming (he forwarded a bunch of text message screen caps showing her saying she was on her way when she wasn't). For not showing up the agency guy said he would fire Alondra the next day though I notice she is still on the website. He apologized profusely, and said he'd make it up the next day, but I said I wasn't going to be there. However by this point my mind was already set on doing this, so I asked if there was anyone available at that late time..

[Brian Setzer]

Hey guys,

Been reading up on Guadalajara. I wish I found this site before my trip! My Spanish really sucks. I mean I can barely speak it and when the locals speak to me I can only catch a word here and there. I talked to a driver that spoke English. It was late and he showed me some type of bar where the ladies were really nice looking, but he said there's no sex there. You just buy them drinks and they sit with you. Well that does me no good when I can't carry a conversation in Spanish. Plus I wanted sex. So he brings me to Hobbies because they open late. The guy at Hobbies says it's $1200 for an hour and one pop. There were 5 ladies in the line up with a mix of age and shapes. None were really to my liking. I would say none were ugly. I would rate about a 6 in looks. Very average looking. The one with big tits was a bit too thick. The older one (mid 30's) didn't have much on top. But since it was late, I decided to settle for the girl that looked to be in her mid 20's, about 5' without her heels, nice C cups, but her ass was pretty big. I don't even remember the girl's name. The room was actually nicer than I thought. It looked clean and was pretty big and open. I was a bit paranoid about where I would leave my pile of clothes. I didn't want her or anyone else to go through my pockets. Everything was in plain view. The shower was not all walled up. There was a hot tub, toilet and sink. There was a couch. I thought it was going to be a tiny room with a cold stainless table. The table was a bit high but had a thin "mattress" that had clean sheets. I started out getting a light massage. She had me flip over and started to give me a CBJ. It was nice. She was very accommodating. We went for different positions. After I popped, I figured it was over and I didn't see a clock anywhere. We both got into the shower and to my surprise we went at it again. When I got out, I realized I spent 1.5 hours there. There was definitely no rush and it appeared that I had been the only customer there at that time.

My driver was outside waiting and drove me back to my hotel. He asked for $300 for his services.

I don't think I will go back to Hobbies unless it's late.

[Brian Setzer]

After reading up on esteticas, I caught a cab over to Danny's. I used google translate to help me out as the cab driver's English was very limited. I thought he was just going to drop me off, but he came in with me and there were a few people sitting waiting. It was about 7:30 so I figured it was going to be a wait. The driver confirmed that all the ladies were busy and there is a wait. He kept asking if I wanted to go to JetSet. I noticed this hottie that came out and I told the driver I liked her or someone that looked like her. He was able to get her to go outside and discussed business after hours. She said she could leave at 8:30 and we would go back to my room for two hours. I'm not sure how much of a cut the driver was getting, but I'm pretty sure he was getting a cut. So initial price was 1400. At 8:30 everyone started to come out. Finally at 9:00, Alisen comes out. But there was some more discussion on pricing. It jumped up to 1600. At this point I figured I'd end up at Hobbies. I didn't like that the price kept jumping around and I was concerned that after one pop, she'd be out the door. She agreed on the original 1400. I ended up giving her 1500. It's not so much the cost difference that concerned me. I was just wondering on the quality when they are jumping back and forth on the price. When the driver got us back to the room he demanded that I pay her up front. Not a big deal. But he was telling her at the end of two hours that he would be waiting for her. I asked what I owed him for the ride and the wait. It was 300. I guess that's the standard or the standard gringo fee. The experience with her was not the greatest. She might have been a bit tired from her shift. We had multiple positions and multiple pops.

I'll do some more research and see if I can get an escort. I do like the looks of Andrea Neri.

[Gagoo]

After reading up on esteticas, I caught a cab over to Danny's. I used google translate to help me out as the cab driver's English was very limited. I thought he was just going to drop me off, but he came in with me and there were a few people sitting waiting. It was about 7:30 so I figured it was going to be a wait. The driver confirmed that all the ladies were busy and there is a wait. He kept asking if I wanted to go to JetSet. I noticed this hottie that came out and I told the driver I liked her or someone that looked like her. He was able to get her to go outside and discussed business after hours. She said she could leave at 8:30 and we would go back to my room for two hours. I'm not sure how much of a cut the driver was getting, but I'm pretty sure he was getting a cut. So initial price was 1400. At 8:30 everyone started to come out. Finally at 9:00, Alisen comes out. But there was some more discussion on pricing. It jumped up to 1600. At this point I figured I'd end up at Hobbies. I didn't like that the price kept jumping around and I was concerned that after one pop, she'd be out the door. She agreed on the original 1400. I ended up giving her 1500. It's not so much the cost difference that concerned me. I was just wondering on the quality when they are jumping back and forth on the price. When the driver got us back to the room he demanded that I pay her up front. Not a big deal. But he was telling her at the end of two hours that he would be waiting for her. I asked what I owed him for the ride and the wait. It was 300. I guess that's the standard or the standard gringo fee. The experience with her was not the greatest. She might have been a bit tired from her shift. We had multiple positions and multiple pops.

I'll do some more research and see if I can get an escort. I do like the looks of Andrea Neri.That taxi really took you for a ride. He would probably get a commission for dropping you off there and you would have to pay more. You should have just banged the girl there for much cheaper, but he wanted to make himself a middleman (sounds nasty) and make some extra money on this. If you take a taxi to places like this, ask them to actually take you somewhere nearby. Don't be telling them what you are doing or exactly where you are going. If the address is 521 Mexico Street, ask them to drop you off at 500 Mexico Street, then walk to 521 Mexico Street. Once I did this, and the brothel in Cancun asked me where is my taxi, how did I get there. I said I walked there, and I know my fee was less.

[NutJob]

Hey guys,

Been reading up on Guadalajara. I wish I found this site before my trip! My Spanish really sucks. I mean I can barely speak it and when the locals speak to me I can only catch a word here and there. I talked to a driver that spoke English. It was late and he showed me some type of bar where the ladies were really nice looking, but he said there's no sex there. You just buy them drinks and they sit with you. Well that does me no good when I can't carry a conversation in Spanish. Plus I wanted sex. So he brings me to Hobbies because they open late. The guy at Hobbies says it's $1200 for an hour and one pop. There were 5 ladies in the line up with a mix of age and shapes. None were really to my liking. I would say none were ugly. I would rate about a 6 in looks. Very average looking. The one with big tits was a bit too thick. The older one (mid 30's) didn't have much on top. But since it was late, I decided to settle for the girl that looked to be in her mid 20's, about 5' without her heels, nice C cups, but her ass was pretty big. I don't even remember the girl's name. The room was actually nicer than I thought. It looked clean and was pretty big and open. I was a bit paranoid about where I would leave my pile of clothes. I didn't want her or anyone else to go through my pockets. Everything was in plain view. The shower was not all walled up. There was a hot tub, toilet and sink. There was a couch. I thought it was going to be a tiny room with a cold stainless table. The table was a bit high but had a thin "mattress" that had clean sheets. I started out getting a light massage..Do you remember the name of the bar with the ladies? I like places like that since I'm fluent in Spanish and can sometimes game them. I think those type of bars are called ficheras or botaneras. Anyone know of any good ones?

[Juan Carter]

Do you remember the name of the bar with the ladies? I like places like that since I'm fluent in Spanish and can sometimes game them. I think those type of bars are called ficheras or botaneras. Anyone know of any good ones?You don't have to "game" the ficheras. Either pay the salida, meet them after work (3 am) or make a date for the following afternoon. My favorites are La Victoria and La Condesa near 9 Esquinas. There is a seedy one, El Barecito, on Priciliano Sanchez, just east of the dos templos if you are adventurous. SexxxyProvincia mentions some pick-up places with MILFS and, at my advanced age, I might give La Copa de Champagne (Americas #999) a try. I am in GDL the weekend of the 24th. PM me if you want an ancient wingman.

[Brian Setzer]

Do you remember the name of the bar with the ladies? I like places like that since I'm fluent in Spanish and can sometimes game them. I think those type of bars are called ficheras or botaneras. Anyone know of any good ones?Sorry. I have no idea what that bar was called. I just remember there were lots of nicer looking ladies. I'd say 8's. I did notice there were quite a few drivers hanging around outside.

[Brian Setzer]

That taxi really took you for a ride. He would probably get a commission for dropping you off there and you would have to pay more. You should have just banged the girl there for much cheaper, but he wanted to make himself a middleman (sounds nasty) and make some extra money on this. If you take a taxi to places like this, ask them to actually take you somewhere nearby. Don't be telling them what you are doing or exactly where you are going. If the address is 521 Mexico Street, ask them to drop you off at 500 Mexico Street, then walk to 521 Mexico Street. Once I did this, and the brothel in Cancun asked me where is my taxi, how did I get there. I said I walked there, and I know my fee was less.I'll take your advice next time. The estetica was a wait, so I was happy to get that girl back to my room. I figured the taxi was getting a cut because there was way too much talking between the taxi and the girl. Next time I'll just take uber. Much cheaper, no hassle. At least I know what Danny's looks like now and I may try Jet set.

[King Jack]

Landed in GDL on Sunday. Been here 7 days and have experienced 5 different girls on 5 nights.

Day 1 was Sunday. The only option seemed available at short notice was Estetica High Class, they are open till 6 PM on Sunday, and it was a short walk from my hotel so went there. One of the girls took me in and told me the prices 650 for 30 minutes and 1050 for 1 HR. She could speak a bit of English, which was good as I don't speak Spanish at all. 4 girls on the line-up all in mid to late 30's. 2 were quite chubby. I choose the English speaking one, mid 30's decent body. We took our cloths off and started with a back massage for 5 minutes and then flip. Front massage and a little playing before a CBJ. She allowed full access and roaming and put a condom on my fingers so that I could play with her pussy. 5-7 minutes on CBJ and then she climbed on top. It was a good ride for a while and then changed positions to standing doggy and then mish to finish.

We had about 20 more minutes so she gave me a good massage for the next 15 minutes before taking a shower and heading out.

The experience was mechanical and I prefer younger girls so will not return.

KJ.

[King Jack]

Day 2 - afternoon was spend on sites like mileroticos, sexservidoras and backpage to get numbers. Send messages via whatsapp using google translate. Chatted with a few and fixed an appointment with a girl called Venus / Xcarlet. 1200 for one HR. She arrived in my hotel at the appointed time. She looks to be in late 20's and has a very sexy and tight body. We started with some light grinding and then took a shower together. Then she gave me a light lap dance before putting on a cover and giving a CBJ. I had fun playing with her body and spend some time on DATY and 69 before she rode me. Multiple positions to finish. She was a real trooper and we had a lot of fun together. We were done in 45 minutes. She took a shower and kissed me goodbye. Over all it was a good experience.

Day 3 and 4 - was busy with work related engagements so could not monger. Will post day 5,6 and 7 soon.

KJ.

[King Jack]

As I couldn't monger on day 3 and 4 was wanting a fix by day 5. I has short listed 2-3 girls from the escort sites but none was replying so I decided to go to Hobbie. Took an uber to a nearby restaurant and walked up. It was nearly 10 PM and there were 3 girls available. Choose the one who looked the youngest and slimmest. The experience was very mediacore. Some light back massage massage, flip and cover on, 30 sec CBJ and then various positions. No fingering, no DATY. I asked for some more CBJ and she said that I could only have sex or CBJ and as we already were having sex, there was no BJ.

She had a strong cigarette breath so kissing was also out of the question. Finished in about 45 minutes took a shower and left. Nothing that I would repeat.

KJ.

[King Jack]

After 2 mediocre experiences in esteticas, calling escorts to my room seemed a better option. I has been chatting with one girl for past 2 days and asked her to come over. She said that she couldn't as she had a late evening work shift. She recommended her friend instead who is 18 yrs old and very pretty. I was in a mood for PYT so said yes and we fixed up a time. This new girl texted me 1/2 HR before the appointment confirming that she was on the way and could be 15 minutes late as she was stuck in traffic. She again messaged me when she was 5 minutes away and I went to lobby to pick her up. She came in and it very nice to look at. A young tight body just the way I like. We came up to the room and as soon as the door was locked we locked lips in DFK. She sure can kiss and enjoys it. Some nice grinding and then I suggested a shower. Off came the cloths. She has decent be cups and a very nice ass. In the shower we soaped and washed each other and I spend some time sucking on her boobs. Back to the bed and again some DFK. She started with BBBJ with lot of enthusiasm and eye contact. This went on for 5-7 minutes with her liking everywhere. I didn't want to burst so stopped her and started DATY which she was very receptive off. I could feel her juices flowing. She was also very turned on and wanted to fuck so we did in all positions. She was a real trooper and very into it. After I came, she cleaned me up and we rested a bit with me roaming all over her body. This turned her on and she was again sucking me. Turned into 69 which she also enjoyed and then another cap and one round of sex. I couldn't come so soon so she took the cap off and again started CBJ till I burst again. By this time our 90 minutes were up and she got a call reminding her that time was up. She quickly washed up and headed out.

She called this her bridal treatment and was better then any sex that I have experienced in my 15 yrs of mongering. And also better then the sex with my Asian girl friends.

I have asked her to come over again tonight and hope that the experience is the same as before.

KJ.