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Starboat
06-28-07, 08:09
Stuart never told you that " Alex" was her boyfriend and she cut out his eye. The Alex. Was Alberto who lost his eye years before he and Soraya and he started dating. And he was not a taxi driver. He would go pick clients up at the bridge, they are no longer together, I wish you would either get your facts straight or not post at all, makes me wonder if the other be. S. On these post are legit. These are the facts as, all three, Stuart, Soraya and even Alberto are close personal friends of mine outside of business or the Luxxor.

Mugroso
06-28-07, 21:40
Stuart, Soraya and even Alberto are close personal friends of mine outside of business or the Luxxor.

Assuming that any of this is any of our business, maybe you could set the record straight and confirm or dispell any rumors on here. Personally, unless they tell me the story it really makes no difference to me who is dating who and who is scratching who's eyes out.

As for those who hold a grudge against Luxxor, Soraya and who ever else I can tell you this having worked in retail many years. The customer is always wrong. If things are not perfect, a customer will cry, stomp their feet, yell and knock over merchendise. And that is home improvement retail so imagine the sex industry, having to deal with a customer complaint about a chica not wanting to suck dick without a condom, not enough baby oil or just a simple bad attitude. The shit gets old I'm sure.

Sure these MPs say "servicio completo" for a certain price, some guys may thing that includes a BBBJ and a chicken suit with a good stiff spanking. But the truth is complete service varies from MP to MP just as beauty and weight limits vary. Some guys complain that a girl won't kiss. I don't blame them, maybe the guy is too ugly, or old, or she is simply not attracted to that guy. And how many guys will they have to kiss in a day? And how many suck dick bare back, do you want to kiss her too?

Lets play with the maximum fee of 50 bucks for a massage. Half of that goes to the girl, 25 bucks. Would you do down on a big fat ugly hairy woman for such a small fee? Let me back step for a bit. Sure, if a girl is going to work as a puta, she should at least enjoy sex but it takes alot out of a girl to make a guy feel like he is Tom Selleck.

Don't misunderstand me, I am not 100% on their side, I want everyone to have fun for the right price but you have to be reasonable with your demands.

Mugroso

Justsomeim
06-28-07, 23:36
Sure, if a girl is going to work as a puta, she should at least enjoy sex but it takes alot out of a girl to make a guy feel like he is Tom Selleck.

MugrosoGreat post Mugs, I agree with you and don't mind not kissing and sometimes not getting the best service, what do you expect for that price. My truck costs me $70 every 4 or 5 days in gas, A good seak dinner will cost me at least $30, taking the old lady to the movies costs me at least $30. You get what you pay for and if it ends with a climax on my part, well that's what I wanted right.

But Filthy, I know your older than me but I don't think anyone's wanted to look like Tom Selleck since before Harry met Sally, or before the Rubik's cube was considered entertainment. LOL.

Mugroso
06-28-07, 23:59
A friend reported to me today, that last weekend the Año Nuevo and Las Vegas Bar were closed. He also told me Faustos was closed as well. Can anyone confirm this? Whats the story, are they slated for demolition or closed for some infraction?

He also told me the girls from the Año Nuevo and Las Vegas were at Queens Place along with a couple of shortys from the Hollywood Bar. I sort of like this idea of having the ladies all in one place. Saves on bar hopping and increases competition in my opinion.

I may head down for a Thursday night excursion to get the scoop on this.

Mugroso

Toni Ten
06-29-07, 01:24
Lets play with the maximum fee of 50 bucks for a massage. Half of that goes to the girl, 25 bucks. Would you do down on a big fat ugly hairy woman for such a small fee? Let me back step for a bit. Sure, if a girl is going to work as a puta, she should at least enjoy sex but it takes alot out of a girl to make a guy feel like he is Tom Selleck.

I have to say you are so right! (hell around here you have to pay just to get in 40-50 then tip 30-60-100-120 and that just for us cute guys).

So huga lovely for me

TT

Victor Lazlo
06-29-07, 08:38
that includes a BBBJ and a chicken suit with a good stiff spanking.
MugrosoWho wears the chicken suit, me or her?

Also, who gets spanked? (could make a difference)

Where exactly is this place? Is it on the wiki-map?

Bbond
06-29-07, 12:53
A partir de las 00:00 horas de mañana sábado 30 de junio y hasta el domingo 1 de julio a las 24:00 horas estará suspendida la venta, consumo y distribución de bebidas alcohólicas, para garantizar el desarrollo tranquilo del proceso electoral.

From 00:00 hours Saturday 6/30 thru 24:00 hours Sunday 7/1, (48 hours) no booze can be sold, consumed or distributed.

Bbond
06-29-07, 13:03
Zamantha Elizabeth Martínez Gutiérrez, de 21 años de edad, quien murió de traumatismo cervical.
Said she worked in the Club Panama, anyone knew her?

Seems she recently fingered some local drug sellers.
Agregó que esta mujer recientemente denunció a unos vendedores de drogas al menudeo que operan en la Zona Centro.

Cienega32
06-29-07, 20:14
A partir de las 00:00 horas de mañana sábado 30 de junio y hasta el domingo 1 de julio a las 24:00 horas estará suspendida la venta, consumo y distribución de bebidas alcohólicas, para garantizar el desarrollo tranquilo del proceso electoral.

From 00:00 hours Saturday 6/30 thru 24:00 hours Sunday 7/1, (48 hours) no booze can be sold, consumed or distributed.
Are their elections an annual event or does it just seem that way to me?

Justsomeim
06-29-07, 20:23
Hey fellas,

I'm having a hard time finding this place. May somebody who knows where it is give me a link on wikimapia. I'the really appreciate it. Some of you guys make this one seem like a dream come true, I did hear they are a little big but will do almost anything. I likey.

Any help would be very much appreciated.

Thanks

Mugroso
06-30-07, 02:23
Hey fellas,

I'm having a hard time finding this place. May somebody who knows where it is give me a link on wikimapia. I'the really appreciate it. Some of you guys make this one seem like a dream come true, I did hear they are a little big but will do almost anything. I likey.

Any help would be very much appreciated.

Thanks

http://www.wikimapia.org/#y=31735992&x=-106428734&z=18&l=0&m=a&v=2

There ya go. If you see any skinnys, let us know.

Mugroso

Mugroso
06-30-07, 02:26
Who wears the chicken suit, me or her?

Also, who gets spanked? (could make a difference)

Where exactly is this place? Is it on the wiki-map?

Well that all depends on your tastes and where it happens doesn't matter, I'm sure you have to take your own suit.

Which Cheech y Chong movie was it where an MP got raided and they walked in on a guy in a chicken suit?

Mugroso

Mugroso
06-30-07, 02:28
But Filthy, I know your older than me but I don't think anyone's wanted to look like Tom Selleck since before Harry met Sally, or before the Rubik's cube was considered entertainment. LOL.

I am just trying not to pander to the current list of "hotties". By the way, I'm not old enough to fart dust.

Mugroso

Cienega32
06-30-07, 11:55
By the way, I'm not old enough to fart dust.
Mugroso
That was aimed at me, wasn't it...


HEY - what did you learn about those shut-downs on your Thursday excursion?

Clydesdale
06-30-07, 13:40
A friend reported to me today, that last weekend the Año Nuevo and Las Vegas Bar were closed. He also told me Faustos was closed as well. Can anyone confirm this? Whats the story, are they slated for demolition or closed for some infraction?

He also told me the girls from the Año Nuevo and Las Vegas were at Queens Place along with a couple of shortys from the Hollywood Bar. I sort of like this idea of having the ladies all in one place. Saves on bar hopping and increases competition in my opinion.

I may head down for a Thursday night excursion to get the scoop on this.

Mugroso
Las Vegas was closed for not having all their permits. They reopened this week.

Mugroso
06-30-07, 16:23
That was aimed at me, wasn't it...


HEY - what did you learn about those shut-downs on your Thursday excursion?

I found out everything was back to normal.

Mugroso

Victor Lazlo
07-01-07, 10:06
Well that all depends on your tastes and where it happens doesn't matter, I'm sure you have to take your own suit.

Which Cheech y Chong movie was it where an MP got raided and they walked in on a guy in a chicken suit?

MugrosoAnybody know where I can buy a chicken suit in Juarez?

Clydesdale
07-02-07, 01:05
Zamantha Elizabeth Martínez Gutiérrez, de 21 años de edad, quien murió de traumatismo cervical.
Said she worked in the Club Panama, anyone knew her?

Seems she recently fingered some local drug sellers.
Agregó que esta mujer recientemente denunció a unos vendedores de drogas al menudeo que operan en la Zona Centro.

Here's a picture. She probably looked nicer befor she had the shit beat out of her and her neck broken. The description said she was tall, 1.76M (5'9") and had a mole between her tits.

Kiowa53
07-02-07, 01:42
So what is your point on this?

Bbond
07-03-07, 00:47
So what is your point on this?

What is your question, point on what?
He posted a newspaper pic of the girl that was killed, it was reported that she worked in the Club Panama, perhaps someone here knew her.

Mugroso
07-03-07, 04:14
What is your question, point on what?
He posted a newspaper pic of the girl that was killed, it was reported that she worked in the Club Panama, perhaps someone here knew her.

Don't bother responding to this guy and his whole 7 posts.

Mugroso

My Freedom
07-04-07, 01:22
Does anybody know if Jessica still works at the Panama? If not, any idea where she went to work? A top-notch dancer!

Regarding the Fabens Bridge question of last June 25, the bridge closes at 10:00 P.M. Unless you live on the far east side, it is not a practical choice. Friends tell me that there are ladies who work out of the bars in the pueblos like Caseta, Guadalupe, etc., but they couldn't recall names of those bars.

My Freedom

Coyote79
07-04-07, 14:30
Big news!
Alehandra (sp), formerly of Sirena's, now works at Paraiso.

Great service, but I would not repeat.
Girl isn’t very attractive. Maybe a 5.5.
It’s cold but. . .her face reminds me of Mr. Ed.
But that’s just me. One monger posted about a year ago about her great “dick sucking lips”.

She was the only girl working at Paraiso last night.

Other stuff. . .
30 minute wait at the pedestrian entrance on the free bridge at 9 PM!
Usually no wait that late.

Palamides
07-04-07, 20:19
I was over with a friend a few weeks ago. I don't remember the name of the joint, but a good bar a couple of miles south of 16 September on Lopez Mateos. You sit there and these well dressed women serve you and you talk to them. Lots of really attractive girls, but I don't think they work in the trade or at least regularly. Next time I go I'll get the name, cross streets and put it on the wiki map. Its located on Lopez Mateos well past Mesaje Roma, but on the left (east) side of the street.

Anyway on the way back we took the Paso Del Norte Home thinking it would be quicker at 10: 30 p. M. On a Friday night, but it was a 1 and 1/2 hour wait. 1/2 the lanes are closed for a construction project. Due to the reduced lanes and the work on the Zaragosa bridge (I think) we can expect the delays driving over for the forseeable future: (. Coyote79s reported delay must have been due to increased pedestrian traffic for the holiday I'm thinking and possibly increased checking questioning by due to that increased traffic.

** Note: its now 2 months since I submitted my passport application. I am hoping the 10-12 week estimate reported by Department of State is correct. I was hoping to post a report on guadalajara or monterey for you guys!

Have a happy 4th everyone. I have enjoyed reading the posts on here and appreicate the good information to be found. It may not be pertintent this site, but I have some good info on how to get the passport and where to apply if anyone is interested I'll do a post on it.

Mugroso
07-05-07, 02:20
** Note: its now 2 months since I submitted my passport application. I am hoping the 10-12 week estimate reported by Department of State is correct. I was hoping to post a report on guadalajara or monterey for you guys!

Same here, I applied May 1st and expect it to be here the 24 of July. Then I can start making plans for my trip to the Philippines.

Mugroso

Bbond
07-05-07, 03:17
** Note: its now 2 months since I submitted my passport application. I am hoping the 10-12 week estimate reported by Department of State is correct. I was hoping to post a report on guadalajara or monterey for you guys!
.

The passport requirement has been lifted temporarily. If you fly, all you need is proof you have applied, and normal ID.

Gallo Ingles
07-05-07, 12:11
[quote=palamides]i was over with a friend a few weeks ago. i don't remember the name of the joint, but a good bar a couple of miles south of 16 september on lopez mateos. you sit there and these well dressed women serve you and you talk to them. lots of really attractive girls, but i don't think they work in the trade or at least regularly. next time i go i'll get the name, cross streets and put it on the wiki map. its located on lopez mateos well past mesaje roma, but on the left (east) side of the street.

i believe the place you are referring to is the bar chapulin colorado, a favorite place of mine. the women who work there are indeed gorgeous, but it is not the place to look for sex with the help. recommended for those who speak spanish or who are okay with a great "taco de ojo" (eye candy). another great thing there is that they raffle off a bottle of whiskey every hour. for 100 pesos you can buy a chance to get totally "****".

btw, wikimapia already has it indicated.

Justsomeim
07-05-07, 23:07
Regarding the Fabens Bridge question of last June 25, the bridge closes at 10:00 P.M. Unless you live on the far east side, it is not a practical choice. Friends tell me that there are ladies who work out of the bars in the pueblos like Caseta, Guadalupe, etc., but they couldn't recall names of those bars.

My FreedomThanks for the update freedom, I was hoping for at least a small MP over there, and my play is during business hours which is why the 10:00 closure wouldn't affect me. I do appreciate it and if anyone else knows if anything out there, please let us know.

Thanks guys.

Palamides
07-06-07, 01:02
i believe the place you are referring to is the bar chapulin colorado, a favorite place of mine. the women who work there are indeed gorgeous, but it is not the place to look for sex with the help. recommended for those who speak spanish or who are okay with a great "taco de ojo" (eye candy). another great thing there is that they raffle off a bottle of whiskey every hour. for 100 pesos you can buy a chance to get totally "****".

btw, wikimapia already has it indicated.you are correct, sir! thanks. ahhh, by the way i forgot about that last little bit of info on the liquor. when i was there that day i won the raffle twice! they will apparently hold the bottles for you for 1 month before they are put back on the shelves. so with the deadline approaching looks like i my friends and i will have to kill a bottle of scotch and a bottle of jack!

JediSpider
07-06-07, 23:11
Ne one have any pictures of Arleth?

Coyote79
07-08-07, 00:41
Ne one have any pictures of Arleth?
no pics. . .if you like very petite 20-somethings, you'll like her.
She's cute. . .

BTW Arleth is not interested in tips--she doesn't offer any "extras". . .even kissing her cheek is off-limits. . .but sometimes she'll let you do DATY (if you're good :-)

JediSpider
07-09-07, 06:09
no pics. . .if you like very petite 20-somethings, you'll like her.
She's cute. . .

BTW Arleth is not interested in tips--she doesn't offer any "extras". . .even kissing her cheek is off-limits. . .but sometimes she'll let you do DATY (if you're good :-)Can you give me some good tips in order for me to get that?

Mugroso
07-09-07, 22:50
Can you give me some good tips in order for me to get that?

The one time I had Arleth I just picked her, paid her and let her do the rest. No matter what her limits are, she aims to please. And the massage is fantastic.

Mugroso

JediSpider
07-09-07, 23:53
I saw Arleth walking out of sirenas, I know where she lives, anyways I also got some nice pics of her will post.

Cienega32
07-10-07, 10:17
I saw Arleth walking out of sirenas, I know where she lives, anyways I also got some nice pics of her will post.
Not for nothing and no disrespect intended but these are pics that she knows you took, right...?

Coyote79
07-10-07, 18:00
Went there last night.
Chose a cute blond. . .she didn’t say her name. . .
Sooooo b*i*t*c*h*y. . .girl didn’t even want me to touch her breast. . .

I got pissed & walked out of our session before we had sex. . .

Waited 30 minutes for the manager to resolve this. . .
Maybe a discount on another girl?
Maybe a partial refund?
NOPE.
They wouldn’t give me jack.

Avoid Venus.

Coyote79
07-10-07, 18:14
Can you give me some good tips in order for me to get that?
Be clean & polite & DATY will be no problem.

Ironically, I saw Arleth last night.

Haven’t been with her in over a year. . .she’s a little thicker. . .but still hot. . .

The good. . .
No rush
No upsell
Always very clean
Makes an effort to please

The bad. . .
She doesn’t like you lying on top of her.
She doesn’t like you kissing her anywhere above her neck.

Overall had a great time. . .

BTW I solved the mystery of her age. . .last night she said she's 28 yo. . .she looks younger. . .

Palamides
07-11-07, 01:06
I saw Arleth walking out of sirenas, I know where she lives, anyways I also got some nice pics of her will post.No offense, but this comment sounds just a little too much like stalking to me. Maybe theres a "rest of the story..."

JediSpider
07-11-07, 06:46
Not for nothing and no disrespect intended but these are pics that she knows you took, right...?Yeap, she lives right next door of sirenas I was gona stop but I saw her go in somewhere so I just left. Yeap shes a little thicker, I did manage to get ontop for about 5 minutes, I went in jacuzzi with her, I hit overtime there 1hour and 20 minutes, the manager knocked the door. I need to upload these pics there great except she didn't want to show face, they were from cellphone so detail can be a little bad, but I think she's a little picky on who she'll except tips, I gave her a 20 and we did all positions, 69, ontop and bottom, and missionary. I asked her if we could do it on the floor and we just put some towels there so it wouldn't be uncomftorable and it was great. She doesnt let you kiss her in the mouth though but you can bite her ear and any other part of her body. But she does have a perfect bod. No rushes everything was great, it depends on her if she lets you do this, I'm 29 played college ball for a while so I'm in decent shape, she is a 9 to me.

Bbond
07-11-07, 10:49
Went there last night.
Chose a cute blond. . .she didn’t say her name. . .
Sooooo b*i*t*c*h*y. . .girl didn’t even want me to touch her breast. . .
I got pissed & walked out of our session before we had sex. . .
Waited 30 minutes for the manager to resolve this. . .
Maybe a discount on another girl?
Maybe a partial refund?
NOPE.
They wouldn’t give me jack.
Avoid Venus.

I have done a girl in Venus only once, and that was a long time ago.

Once after that I went in because a friend wanted to check it out. Saw nothing we liked so we left. Only to be followed to the car by a guy from inside. He wanted to know why we were leaving. Told him we we were not interested in anything we saw, he sounded dissappointed, promised good service from the girls, we left anyway. I won't go back.

Espina Heart
07-11-07, 15:52
Ahh Venus. The girls are usually very attractive. I have tried at least 3 times, all with similar results posted recently by Coyote below. I was moaning about this fact here months ago, and someone replied, simply, "if you don't like it, spend your money elsewhere." I've never been back and don't intend to.

BTW, Leslie at Loryed's (the slimmest of the lot on Monday--slightly big but not gorda), very experienced in the art of giving sexual pleasures to the max, just happened to rock my world that afternoon. It was all I could do to walk back to the bus stop and then over the bridge.

My Freedom
07-11-07, 21:21
Does anyone know anything about Jessica (Jesse) at the Panama? A super dancer, but hasn't been there of late. She comes and goes, but where else might she be?

Also, what's up for the future of the Panama? When is it likely to meet its demise?

Thanks.

My Freedom

JackRabbit69
07-11-07, 22:54
I have lived in El Paso most of my life and have decided to try the hobby. I would just like a little more information from the elders on this forum on the women in Juarez. I would like to know if there is take out available at the MPs and how much am I going to pay? Also which MPs are best for your buck? Thanks again, hopefully I will be able to add some valuable reports in the future.

Jack

Palamides
07-13-07, 02:04
I have lived in El Paso most of my life and have decided to try the hobby. I would just like a little more information from the elders on this forum on the women in Juarez. I would like to know if there is take out available at the MPs and how much am I going to pay? Also which MPs are best for your buck? Thanks again, hopefully I will be able to add some valuable reports in the future.

JackJack, based on many of the posts on the site I would have to say best bang for your buck is going to be Sirenas on Hermanos Escobar; its on the wikimapia map-$40/hour. Ask for Arleth, but my friends and I have been impressed that the all the girls we've had sessions with are actually good at mesaje and FS. Second, is going to be Luxxor, if you don't mind the upsell; prettier girls costing a little more money. I've heard $50/hour is the going rate now with $20-$30 upsell. My third choice would be Cleopatras on the corner of Juarez avenue and Ignacio Meija (thanks Mugruso! ) just over the paso del norte bridge and take a right headed toward the downtown bullring. $35/hr but the girls are goign to be hit or miss. Not great at mesaje but I found a really cute one a while back who was great at "relaciones. " If you don't mind walking, my fourth would be pink lady also on the wiki map. Its on Altamirano going south 1 block east and two blocks south from an Smart. Its not a mesaje but you can take a girl to the room for $60-$80 depending on your bargaining skills, the girl and time of day. Afternoon shift is much better looking overall and they start to get there in numbers around 2:30-3:00p. M. Though I gotta admit its fun to go there in the evening and drink a few cheap cervezas ($2 for you)/($4 for the girl) and watch the truckers make total fools of themselves as they get wild and crazy. If you take the girl out of the establishment you have to pay the exit fee, but you could always work out a deal with one of them to meet before or after her shift there. Ok, thats my two cents. I await the oppinions of the senior members as well. Not much has been said regarding whether the women who work in the Mesajes do outcalls or even how the subject is broached with them, so I hope your question elicits some interesting responses.

Cienega32
07-13-07, 05:44
I see on the local El Paso news that there's talk about raising the crossing costs and possibly relocating the peddy-crossing.

Foot traffic is mentioned at 50 cents - up from 35 and vehicles up to $2.25 - up from $1.65. The pedestrian path on the Santa Fe bridge is also being mentioned as possibly being relocated to Oregon St, which is on the other side of the administration building that we walk past on the way back to America.

Bbond
07-13-07, 07:29
I see on the local El Paso news that there's talk about raising the crossing costs and possibly relocating the peddy-crossing.

Foot traffic is mentioned at 50 cents - up from 35 and vehicles up to $2.25 - up from $1.65. The pedestrian path on the Santa Fe bridge is also being mentioned as possibly being relocated to Oregon St, which is on the other side of the administration building that we walk past on the way back to America.

I don't often walk across, but I would have swore last time I did it was 50 cents into Juarez and 30 cents or 3 pesos back.

Justsomeim
07-13-07, 19:32
I have lived in El Paso most of my life and have decided to try the hobby. I would just like a little more information from the elders on this forum on the women in Juarez. I would like to know if there is take out available at the MPs and how much am I going to pay? Also which MPs are best for your buck? Thanks again, hopefully I will be able to add some valuable reports in the future.Juarez is a very fun place during the day and I'm not one for the nightlife like some of our other members. You've been told about Sirena's which is decent in my opinion. Personally I don't like a MP that doesn't have a shower in the room. This is why I don't like Sirena's or Cleo's. My preference will be to Genesis ($30, CBJ, CFS), I have never been there without leaving with a great smile and crooked walk. I also think Parasio ($35, CBJ, CFS) is good which is right by the America's bridge, every once in a while you'll get a lousy girl but YMMV. I know a lot of these guys don't like Venus ($40 CFS or CBJ), but I've also never had a bad experience there and I'm always impressed by the appearance of the girls there. There are a lot of MP girls that will definitely do take out. I go with a buddy every so often and everytime he leaves (last 3 times) he's gotten a number from the girl for take out. Usually though from my experience, they're pretty flakey. Everything down there is what you make of it. It's great when it's good and it's actually still decent when it's bad. Just stick to Wikimapia for help and experience them on your own and let us know what you think.

Cienega32
07-13-07, 21:02
I don't often walk across, but I would have swore last time I did it was 50 cents into Juarez and 30 cents or 3 pesos back.
Going in is 35 cents/5 pesos at Santa Fe. I always take a little crossing kit with me that would allow two crossings either way. Quarters, dimes, nickles, 5, 2, 1 pesos.

The walk over is good cardio but the walk back can get old real quick until I see that long line of cars. It's a 50 mile drive back home so I don't really relish sitting in the car that long to cross back. I've only driven over 2 or 3 times and that was back in '02-'03 and never parked anywhere. Someday I'll do it again.

JediSpider
07-14-07, 20:22
Yes I finally went with her yesterday, she doesnt accept tips unless there 50 and up haha, but that wasnt my problem. I was hard when I came lay down the massage table and she noticed. The massage was great it started shoulders and went down from there. She gives great HJ but I wanted to give it to her already. I asked her if we could use the floor instead of the table because I'm wide. I'm 36 visible 4 pack decent bod but bald. She went outside and came back with some towels and put them on the floor, she lay down and wow the sight was amazing I couldn't resist and I just jumped ontop. Started slowly but then I just went hard and fast from there, I didn't go over it was about 40 minutes until I popped. She doesnt like to be kissed how ever you can lick watever you want from below the head. I also did DATY and 69 thats the best. I'm definetly going there again.

JackRabbit69
07-15-07, 00:31
I just wanted to say thanks to the members of the forum who have given me great advice, I plan to take a trip on the 30th or 31st as that is when I will have some free time. Oh yeah, Jedispider, no offense man, but it seems like you are little too descriptive about yourself, it seems to me you have some issues. The site is for reporting activities and what the girl looks like, just like ****.net is.

Sex is great have some more,

Jack

Bachelor Warrior
07-15-07, 16:42
I recently had the chance to drop down to Juarez on a Friday and Saturday night. In general, the action was so slow, I had to keep telling myself it was the weekend in Juarez!

Casa Colorado was busy with a good selection of ladies, but more customers too. I say only one working girl in Chito's. She was young, thin, and above average in height.

Sad to say, the Panama only had about 7 ladies. And, that's counting three regulars that I would guess are 50+ years old. (They might be worth a try if, I say if, they were the least bit interested in having a good time. But they're so damned mechanical about things that it's a huge turnoff. They don't make any effort at conversation or touch you or show you anything. It's just "one beer for me" and "let's go to the room".) As far as the other ladies, one was cute, on the small side with a cute figure. But she was also pregnant. Another one was crying and so upset over something that she wasn't even good to talk to. The other two, I would rate a 5 or a 6. It's amazing to me how far down the Panama has come, because not long ago - a year maybe - the place would be packed with people.

Pink Lady was better, but not nearly as busy as it usually is.

Club Paraiso was a pleasant surprise this time. There were at least three, very leggy, very good looking brunettes there in the early evening. It's definitely worth taking a look if you're in the neighborhood.

The Ano Nuevo has had lots of girls lately. Almost all look ordinary though. There may be a jewel or two, but I didn't see them. The music is so loud in that place it's actually painful.

Lately, I've been approached on Juarez Ave (I'm always walking) by a guy who said he was working for the city. It's a different guy each time and he's wearing a little name tag. He says that the city is currently promoting a bar called the Pink Lady. He flashes a very worn card (business card size) with a picture of a very hot girl on it. Has that happened to any of you? What do you make of it? It seems crazy that the city would be promoting a brothel. I figure the guy is working commission for the Pink Lady and it would just cost me more money. So, I just say "no thanks" and keep walking.

Something else that's a little different is that I've run into more drunk "chicas" than normal. Their conversation rambles all over the place and it's hard to understand what they're saying. Usually they misunderstand something you're trying to say and get mad over it.

BW

Bbond
07-15-07, 22:17
I say only one working girl in Chito's. She was young, thin, and above average in height.


So, Chito out of jail and back in business?

Cienega32
07-16-07, 05:45
So, Chito out of jail and back in business?
No, but the joint has been open for a few weeks now. I poked my head in there one day (afternoon) when I saw the door open and was shocked to see some girl who looked no older than 15 (IMHO) behind the bar with another girl who looked of age and some guy sitting at the bar with a "manager attitude", if you know what I mean.

It was scary - as in setup scary. One way or the other it didn't look healthy to me, that's for sure.

He was still in jail as of a couple weeks ago but the joint still opens without him.

JediSpider
07-16-07, 06:17
Sorry about that, well I kinda got confused because there's another guide somewhere in the website that has a similar name then this, does anyone know about America from Jokers? Where is she?

Bbond
07-16-07, 07:45
No, but the joint has been open for a few weeks now. I poked my head in there one day (afternoon) when I saw the door open and was shocked to see some girl who looked no older than 15 (IMHO) behind the bar with another girl who looked of age and some guy sitting at the bar with a "manager attitude", if you know what I mean.

It was scary - as in setup scary. One way or the other it didn't look healthy to me, that's for sure.

He was still in jail as of a couple weeks ago but the joint still opens without him.

Lauras is actually owned by the same people that own and run the "Hotel Verde" across the street and down a bit. Chito was only leasing it from them.

In a drunken stupor I stayed once in that hotel, won't happen again.

Cienega32
07-16-07, 11:38
Lauras is actually owned by the same people that own and run the "Hotel Verde" across the street and down a bit. Chito was only leasing it from them.

In a drunken stupor I stayed once in that hotel, won't happen again.
Oh, that explains it. I was wondering how they were open but I thought he had owned it.

Good to know about "Verde" - those drunken stupors can hit at anytime.

Bbond
07-16-07, 17:09
Good to know about "Verde" - those drunken stupors can hit at anytime.Place is a dive, and I mean dive. No shower or toilet in room, only in hallway. Beds are filthy. Only way I could have stayed there is I was drunk and it didn't matter.

Cienega32
07-17-07, 00:58
Place is a dive, and I mean dive. No shower or toilet in room, only in hallway. Beds are filthy. Only way I could have stayed there is I was drunk and it didn't matter.
Geez, that's even worse than the image I had in my mind. I was going by the state of Laura's and the associated rooms they use but the Verde sounds worse.

Coyote79
07-19-07, 01:15
Hooked up there today with this lady with an attitude.
. . .she gets pissed if I touch her hair. . .not suppose to lie on top of her. . .
can’t squeeze her breast. . .

Anyway, I tried to make the best of it.
I start to motion for a BJ, and she leaves the room.
WTF?
She returns with a another condom (odd sense I already had three out)

She keeps talking. . .I say ‘no comprente’ (sp). . .

She leaves & doesn’t return.

I try to complain to the manager.
There were two guys there who I’ve never seen before.
They start talking all this shit to me.
“any other place would of kicked you out”
“you make the girls cry”
“none of them want to go with you”

WTF? I’ve been going there for three years w/o any complaints or problems.
I almost always give the girls tips.
Before today, I haven’t had any bad experiences with any of the ladies there.

I think they just make up lies so they can justify not giving me a refund.

I told them I would report them on the Internet.
They actually said I “better not make any threats”.

Anyway, I would avoid Sirena’s until there is a change in management.

I don’t know why so much crazy shit is happening in J-town lately. . .

Palamides
07-19-07, 02:12
My Boss actually made a point to mention at our meeting today a friend of hers, a medical equipment salesman, that stayed at the Camino recently decided to go to juarez. I guess he was ruffed up and passed away in a Juarez hospital.

I understand its dangerous when I here these stories and the one of the murdered dancer on here...I honestly have never felt unsafe in Juarez at any time either just goign to the movies or dinner, being out in the bars late at night or even when im doing my style of mongering.

Maybe it was my Boss's story, but reading your most recent comment got me scared for you buddy, if I may call you that. It seems to me that when things go wrong in J-town they go very wrong very quickly. First sign of trouble I would have quietly dressed and left and chalked that $40 down the tubes as a life experience.

I've see the girls at Pink lady go apeship a few times and throw tantrums but I wasnt direcly involved and I was leaving at the time.

Yes there is some crazy shit going on in Juarez. I'll still go; hell a friend and I were at Chaupolin Colorado (sp) Saturday Evening. Stay safe Coyote 79! I like you and I have enjoyed reading your reports and stories....lets stay safe and keep'em comming.

Sincerely ~palamides

Cienega32
07-19-07, 04:12
Hooked up there today with this lady with an attitude.
. . .she gets pissed if I touch her hair. . .not suppose to lie on top of her. . .
can’t squeeze her breast. . .
{{snip}}
Anyway, I would avoid Sirena’s until there is a change in management.

I don’t know why so much crazy shit is happening in J-town lately. . .
Do you have a description and/or name on this winner?

I was thinking of indulging in a steak and rub on that side of town but that sounds a little bizarre.

Bachelor Warrior
07-19-07, 04:16
I think you're right. They're making up excuses so they don't have to refund your money. It seems to me that they don't exactly take the long, patient approach to building their business. And, by "they", I mean the girls and the establishment.

If I don't like the way the girl is behaving, I just leave. It's difficult sometimes to get in the mood and then leave. But, at least I feel a little more in charge and I know she's not ever going to get any more of my money. And besides, there are plenty of fish in the sea.

The American fellow who owned the Sleepy Iguana had the right attitude I thought. Nice clean place. Nice clean rooms. He would give you a tour and show you the whole place if you wanted. And, I know for a fact that he kicked at least one girl out of his place for getting into it with a customer. I miss that place. Oh well.

BW

Coyote79
07-19-07, 04:37
Do you have a description and/or name on this winner?

I was thinking of indulging in a steak and rub on that side of town but that sounds a little bizarre.
No name, but she's about 25 yo, straight long black hair pulled-back, maybe 5'4" & 130 lbs. . .morena. . .

Coyote79
07-19-07, 04:41
I think you're right. They're making up excuses so they don't have to refund your money. It seems to me that they don't exactly take the long, patient approach to building their business. And, by "they", I mean the girls and the establishment.

If I don't like the way the girl is behaving, I just leave. It's difficult sometimes to get in the mood and then leave. But, at least I feel a little more in charge and I know she's not ever going to get any more of my money. And besides, there are plenty of fish in the sea.
BW
yes I appreciate the support. . .

It just hit me like a bolt of lighting. . .three years I've been going there--then I make one complaint, and all they do is attack. . .betrayal. . .

Coyote79
07-19-07, 06:28
My Boss actually made a point to mention at our meeting today a friend of hers, a medical equipment salesman, that stayed at the Camino recently decided to go to juarez. I guess he was ruffed up and passed away in a Juarez hospital.

I understand its dangerous when I here these stories and the one of the murdered dancer on here...I honestly have never felt unsafe in Juarez at any time either just goign to the movies or dinner, being out in the bars late at night or even when im doing my style of mongering.

Maybe it was my Boss's story, but reading your most recent comment got me scared for you buddy, if I may call you that. It seems to me that when things go wrong in J-town they go very wrong very quickly. First sign of trouble I would have quietly dressed and left and chalked that $40 down the tubes as a life experience.

I've see the girls at Pink lady go apeship a few times and throw tantrums but I wasnt direcly involved and I was leaving at the time.

Yes there is some crazy shit going on in Juarez. I'll still go; hell a friend and I were at Chaupolin Colorado (sp) Saturday Evening. Stay safe Coyote 79! I like you and I have enjoyed reading your reports and stories....lets stay safe and keep'em comming.

Sincerely ~palamides
yes I appreciate your comments. . .
yeah it might of been smarter to just leave. . .
but at the time I didn't think complaining to the manager would be a big deal.
I wasn't expecting them to attack me for complaining. . .

Cienega32
07-19-07, 12:25
yes I appreciate your comments. . .
yeah it might of been smarter to just leave. . .
but at the time I didn't think complaining to the manager would be a big deal.
I wasn't expecting them to attack me for complaining. . .
That's the part that got me - their complaints about you. After all these years, you think they would've hinted at some problem with you as a client, somewhere down the line - especially if "you make the girls cry".

Bizarre. But I think BW hit it about the refund thing. With all the crackdown news down there, maybe they're too protective of the funds now.

Cienega32
07-19-07, 12:29
My Boss actually made a point to mention at our meeting today a friend of hers, a medical equipment salesman, that stayed at the Camino recently decided to go to juarez. I guess he was ruffed up and passed away in a Juarez hospital.

Sincerely ~palamides
Sorry to hear about that but do you have any other specifics as to where in town he was and how it went down?

Bbond
07-19-07, 13:13
It just hit me like a bolt of lighting. . .three years I've been going there--then I make one complaint, and all they do is attack. . .betrayal. . .

In case you have not figured it out, it's all about your money, that's all they want, could care less about your satisfaction, or even your return business.

Weird business practice, but reality of Juarez, and a lot of the rest of Mexico. They know another sucker will be along any minute, so ain't worried about you comming back.

Palamides
07-20-07, 03:32
Sorry to hear about that but do you have any other specifics as to where in town he was and how it went down?No, frankly I think the dude was up to no good and/or probably did something stupid. But that wasnt my point. Also I appreciate that "Complaining to the Manager" by Coyote79 shouldnt have brought such grief to him and that complaining to management about an MP girl is a reasonable 1st reaction.

But based on the my CFO's story, the Murdered prostitute, and Coyote79s problems I was just wanting to remind everyone to be cautious.

A few years ago I was visting the clubs over in Juarez Routinely (La Changada, Arriba Chihuaha, Tesguino's, Don Quintin and was luckily attending with a couple of ole pros who would always advise me: "if you go in the bathroom and you see them with the bag of white powerder don't look at them just do your business and leave"; "don't look at THAT guys girlfriend", "don't start shit".

Its only my 2 cents just trying to give some perspective to Coyoyte's post and remind everyone to be very careful. The sex industry in juarez is obviously in transition, it is a third world country and when things go bad they tend to go really bad.

Cienega32
07-21-07, 07:01
This is off the Santa Fe bridge - about a block and a half northeast of the "welcome to Texas" sign. I guess it's all street parking:

CENTRAL EL PASO -- At least 10 cars had their windows broken out early Friday morning.

Police responded to the intersection of Father Rahm and Oregon Street just after 1 a.m. after a resident in the area reported a whole line of cars had been vanadalized.

Large rocks were thrown through windshields and side windows.

Police talked with some of the car owners, several of which were returning to El Paso from a night out in Juarez.

Gntlman Mongr
07-22-07, 06:05
Does anyone know anything about Jessica (Jesse) at the Panama? A super dancer, but hasn't been there of late. She comes and goes, but where else might she be?

Also, what's up for the future of the Panama? When is it likely to meet its demise?

Thanks.

My Freedom
This is a picture I took of Jessica a few months ago. I think she is the one you refer to. I inquired about her a month ago and was told she went back to Chihuahua. I think her sister still works at Panama. I have more pictures of her that I will try post in the Photo Gallery.

Enjoy,
Gntlman Mongr

Lucke
07-22-07, 08:07
went to the luxxor today (saturday). played a little pool, to see which chicas were most interested. marisol, as usual, interpreted for me. i chose denise'. i was told that denise' had "come back" to work at luxxor. i would rate her a 8.5 body, and a 9.5 face. very cute chica. went to the room with her. the price for basic at luxxor has gone up to the reported $50. i don't mind, as i like the better looking chicas and prefer a shower in the room. she allowed me to give her some light fk's. when i tried for some dfk, i was rebuffed. i understood, and did not try again. she started out by giving me a very good cbj. then we went at it with her on top. then we switched to miss, followed by cowgirl, followed by doggie, followed by reverse cowgirl, followed by more cbj, etc. this chica really aimed to please. we finished up and showered. she then gave me an actual massage. it was almost as good as the ones i get from my american massage therapist. i gave her a good tip, and was very pleased with her. would i go back, damn straight. i plan on it next thursday. i am thinking about doing both her and marisol at the same time. i highly recommend her, though ymmv.

lucke

Belldude2
07-23-07, 16:20
ok here is what I am planning to do. I am going to buy the worst p.o.s. car i can find without a radio or anything just for going to Juarez. Maybe 300 bucks or less as long as it will run then I will not worry about it being vandalized, stolen or robbed. I have great parking in TJ and I can keep my SRT-4 without worry where I stay but I have yet to find anything secure enough in Juarez. Any ideas?

Justsomeim
07-23-07, 22:20
ok here is what I am planning to do. I am going to buy the worst p.o.s. car i can find without a radio or anything just for going to Juarez. Maybe 300 bucks or less as long as it will run then I will not worry about it being vandalized, stolen or robbed. I have great parking in TJ and I can keep my SRT-4 without worry where I stay but I have yet to find anything secure enough in Juarez. Any ideas?Are you plannig on making like a 4 day weekend or orvernight? If your going just for the day for a couple hours you don't have too much to worry about. But sounds like your goin for a vacation, lol. love to know more about this adventure.

My Freedom
07-23-07, 23:39
MANY thanks, Gntlman Monger, for posting about Jessica. You are more fortunate than I, as I never got the chance to go with her, but would if she would return. A terrific dancer, and I assume terrific in her profession? I was told her sister still works at the Panama, but that Jessica had gone to either Mazatlan or Tijuana. Would love viewing more photos of her! If she returns, sure hope you will post! Have you heard when the Panama will meet its demise?

To Belldude 2, if you are looking for "safe" parking in el centro, between the bridge and the 16th of Sept., there are "parqueros" all over who will watch your car. On Av. Juarez, there are two parking lots on the same side of the street as the Don Felix, Rapiditos, etc. However, in other parts of CJ, it is a case of good luck and the older the car the better. One of my cars is old enough to vote, so that is the one I usually bring to CJ. Good luck.

Thanks.

My Freedom

AlaskaKingCrab
07-25-07, 08:24
I've been to Luxxor several times during the week and have never been disappointed with the line-ups. I was wondering if the line-ups were any better, worse, or the same on weekends. I would imagine there aren't as many girls on weekends and there would be more mongers (i.e. competition), but I could be wrong. Thanks for any information!

King Crab!

Justsomeim
07-27-07, 03:05
Had an itch I needed scratching yesterday so I went to Genesis with a buddy, we drove to the bridge parked and got a cab to the vicinity of Genesis and walked a block to the MP, ($8 cab ride) Got inside and saw 4 chicas that all looked pretty decent, my buddy chose first and I took a girl I had seen once before, Hazel. Fellas, if you like a small framed girl, she's the one, probably my fav in J-town right now. She must work out constantly because she's built like a little body-builder. Probably 5'2", long blonde hair, A cup breasts, around 21-23 and has braces (I know some of you guys might like that one). I'm telling you fellas though it's the body that does it for me.

.3 plus a nice .1 tip and it was a great massage, good kissing from top to bottom. Worth every penny and more. The cab ride back was the same $8 and there was no pedestrian line yesterday, maybe 2 people in front of me.

Great trip, back and forth in 100-120 mins.

Starboat
07-27-07, 10:38
Saturdays usually great. Sundays a bit slow. 3 new girls.

Denise is back and two young lookers, Karina and Gladys. Both young and pretty and Stuart tells me they really great. Have not been with them. Also a new dark skinned girl from down south. Joselyn. Looks like a goer.

Kndylvr
07-28-07, 08:00
Had an itch I needed scratching yesterday so I went to Genesis with a buddy, we drove to the bridge parked and got a cab to the vicinity of Genesis and walked a block to the MP, ($8 cab ride)Just curious. When you took the cab, where did you ask the driver to take you? I've been wanting to return to Genesis for a long time now. But I don't like to drive in Juarez and I know if you ask the cab drivers to take you to an MP, they seriously hike up the prices.

Bbond
07-28-07, 12:30
Just curious. When you took the cab, where did you ask the driver to take you? I've been wanting to return to Genesis for a long time now. But I don't like to drive in Juarez and I know if you ask the cab drivers to take you to an MP, they seriously hike up the prices.

There is, at least was, a Hertz car rental agency at Fdo. Montes de Oca and Triunfo de la Republica, be a short walk from there. Seems like a legit cab destination.

Gino the Rod
07-29-07, 01:06
Just curious. When you took the cab, where did you ask the driver to take you? I've been wanting to return to Genesis for a long time now. But I don't like to drive in Juarez and I know if you ask the cab drivers to take you to an MP, they seriously hike up the prices.
I was there with justsomeim. I asked the taxista to drop us off to meet a friend for lunch at the corner of Vicente Guerrero and Americas. There's a restaurant at the southeast corner, but I told him our friend was picking us up. There's a baseball stadium at the northeast corner.

By the way, the asking price from cabbies right south of the bridge to this area is 15-20. We walked south about 5 or 6 blocks, to Tacos Lucas more or less. Cabbie asked for 10, I countered with 5, settled on 8.

On the way the cabbie asked if we were interested in MPs. We played dumb and asked questions. Cabbie said rate was 70. So, there's your markup if you were wondering.

The walk to Genesis from our drop off point is maybe 300 yards -- go east on Vicente Guerrero along the baseball stadium to the light at Montes de Oca and turn left.

Have fun,
Play safe,

Gino

Bbond
07-29-07, 01:37
On the way the cabbie asked if we were interested in MPs. We played dumb and asked questions. Cabbie said rate was 70. So, there's your markup if you were wondering.
Gino


Fookin cabbie gets $40, MP don't care, since you are paying it.<<LOL>>

Never, but never, allow a taxista to know your real plans, they are sneaky bastards.
I have even had them lay claim that I was with them when I absolutely was not.
Happened in Pink Ladies, a girl asked a taxista if I was with the group, he said yes, course it could have been a mistake, or it could have been a ploy for him to get commission on my purchases. I am not sure. I found about this from a girl that told me the group was leaving, I said so what, I'm not with them, she told me the taxista said I was. I know several people in Pink, I made sure everyone knew I was there solo.

Had the same thing happen with the "guides" that offer to take you to see the girls, bastard followed me in and sat at my table. I told him to leave now, or I was going, the people in the bar threw him out.

ILoveChicas
07-29-07, 04:12
I'll shoot out a few details here. Visited a couple of months ago.

I had a great time there just checking out the basic layout. Great food and basic info at Taco Lucas on Juarez by the way.

At any rate, I spent the good part of the afternoon walking around seeing what the situation was like. At one point, when crossing a street a few blocks west of Juarez near the Hollywood Strip club, an old guy who was standing there offered to take me to see nice girls, yada, yada, yada. I told him "no thanks" in Spanish but he was a persistant pain in the *ss. Eventually, I told him I was only out walking and looking for a beer etc.

I basically kept walking until I came across a club that I wanted to poke my head into (maybe Pink Ladies? ). This guy basically acts like he's brought me there to the management.

I ordered a beer and one after another girls came over the chat and flirt. I was upfront though and said, I was only looking to sit down and have a beer etc. No problems w/ the staff/girls there but the guy kept milling around. I decided to get up and leave and this guy gets up to follow. I got firmer in my "No Gracias" and he got the message. Outside the club he got pissed and said in bad English, "And don't come back! ".

I wasn't an ass to the guy but I think I did laugh outloud that he was acting like he did me a favor or something.

While milling around the barrio, I poked my head into what looked like a factory. They invited me in and told me about what they made etc. Their was a woman their who was something of a secretary. It seemed like the end of their day and she offered to walk back toward Juarez.

To make a long story short, she ended up propositioning me for some fun. She was middle aged and not bad looking. Anyway, it was a pretty good time all around.

Just a quick question. Are there any "door girl" areas in Juarez after it gets a little darker?

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Bbond
07-29-07, 14:17
Just a quick question. Are there any "door girl" areas in Juarez after it gets a little darker?


I know of a couple, none of which I can recommend.
Also, along Francisco Villa, before 16 de Sept, at times, many girls mill around there looking for "work".
Fco Villa is one block away from centro, paralleling Juarez Ave.

Coyote79
07-29-07, 22:01
On the way the cabbie asked if we were interested in MPs. We played dumb and asked questions. Cabbie said rate was 70. So, there's your markup if you were wondering.

The walk to Genesis from our drop off point is maybe 300 yards -- go east on Vicente Guerrero along the baseball stadium to the light at Montes de Oca and turn left.

Have fun,
Play safe,

Gino
A 100% mark-up??!! fuckin' a!

BTW I went there too.
I just asked the taxi to drop me off at 'Hospital General'.
(because I'm visiting a friend there, don't you know?)
It's easy for me to remember.

Coyote79
07-29-07, 22:13
Had an itch I needed scratching yesterday so I went to Genesis with a buddy, we drove to the bridge parked and got a cab to the vicinity of Genesis and walked a block to the MP, ($8 cab ride) Got inside and saw 4 chicas that all looked pretty decent, my buddy chose first and I took a girl I had seen once before, Hazel. Fellas, if you like a small framed girl, she's the one, probably my fav in J-town right now. She must work out constantly because she's built like a little body-builder. Probably 5'2", long blonde hair, A cup breasts, around 21-23 and has braces (I know some of you guys might like that one). I'm telling you fellas though it's the body that does it for me.

.3 plus a nice .1 tip and it was a great massage, good kissing from top to bottom. Worth every penny and more. The cab ride back was the same $8 and there was no pedestrian line yesterday, maybe 2 people in front of me.

Great trip, back and forth in 100-120 mins.
decided to take your advice & check out Genesis.

Cabbie charged me $10 from the free bridge to Hospital General.
(didn't have time to shop around; it was pouring down rain)

It's about a 10 minute walk to Genesis from Hospital General, but it took me about an hour because I'm new to that area.

Four ladies working. Pretty good selection.

Chose Diana. She was fucking awesome.

.3 fee plus .35 tip plus .17 total cab fair = fun time in Juarez.

OTHER STUFF--
The pedestrian line at the free bridge WAS ONE HOUR LONG!!
I've never seen it so backed-up.
This is at 8:30 PM on a Saturday night.

The vehicle line looked pretty gnarly too.

Palamides
07-29-07, 23:32
....While milling around the barrio, I poked my head into what looked like a factory. They invited me in and told me about what they made etc. Their was a woman their who was something of a secretary. It seemed like the end of their day and she offered to walk back toward Juarez.

To make a long story short, she ended up propositioning me for some fun. She was middle aged and not bad looking. Anyway, it was a pretty good time all around....
It was over two years ago and I don't remember her name, but I had an amazing time with this girl at pink lady. While we were taking a break she mentioned she had a job at a local library or something and did this on the side for extra money. Could have been full of kaka or maybe it was true, but certainly many of these girls are very enterprising. I tend to always have more fun with the girls where its more of a GFE than mechanical sex. Even if its in their minds, I think the "experience" is better if I get the feeling they approach me as a friend for mutual benefit and try to make it a win/win situation rather than purely a business transaction. Like the old broads used to do an Panama club.

Palamides
07-30-07, 00:36
We all know the sometimes extraordinary measures we have to go through to separate ourselves from the cabbie or "guide" before entering whatever establishment we want to patronize. The reports about Genesis have been really great and I plan to check it out next week. After checking WikiMapia, I have an alternate route to propse as many of you walk from the santa fe bridge.

The Plaza/Cathedral area is a hub for many of the Juarez City buses. You want to cross the paso del norte bridge and walk to the end of Juarez avenue. Turn right (west) and head over to the plaza where the old Juarez cathedral is. The street running along the southern border of the plaza area (Where you enter Mercado Cuauhtemoc) is Vicente Guerrero. I recommend taking the Routa 4 Bus down Vicente Guerrero at least as far as the Canales Lira Baseball Park just past Parque Borunda. Bus should stop there or you can simply slap the roof or side of the bus to let the driver know to stop. Also "Alto por favor" will work. From the WikiMapia, Mesaje Genesis is one block east of the Canales Lira Baseball Park. Its a good little ride, once the bus leaves the Cathedral on vicente guerrero heading east, you will pass the benito juarez park about 1/4 of the way down to your destination. Quite a ways down you will pass parque borunda before you see the baseball stadium (on north side of street) where you get off.

I believe the fair is 35 cents. Anyway its a straight shot down vicente guerrero, its cheap, much closer than the hospital or other taxi drop off locations, and you don't have to deal with cabbies. I'll try it next week and report back.

Gino the Rod
07-30-07, 02:23
Four ladies working. Pretty good selection.

Chose Diana. She was fucking awesome.
She's the closest thing to a sure thing in Jtown MPs. Truly my ATF in this area of the hobby. She's always my first choice if she's there.

Have fun, play safe,

Gino

Bbond
07-30-07, 04:37
.3 fee plus .35 tip plus .17 total cab fair = fun time in Juarez.


Do I read that right? $30 + a $35 tip?

'Oly chit man.

ILoveChicas
07-30-07, 05:51
It was over two years ago and I don't remember her name, but I had an amazing time with this girl at pink lady. While we were taking a break she mentioned she had a job at a local library or something and did this on the side for extra money. Could have been full of kaka or maybe it was true, but certainly many of these girls are very enterprising. I tend to always have more fun with the girls where its more of a GFE than mechanical sex. Even if its in their minds, I think the "experience" is better if I get the feeling they approach me as a friend for mutual benefit and try to make it a win/win situation rather than purely a business transaction. Like the old broads used to do an Panama club.I couldn't agree more.

Just curious if there are any accessible Non Pro hangouts to have a beer etc.? I'm mid 40's so not looking to shake it up with the 20 y/o's.

I vaguely remember a little more upscale restaurant-bar not far from Taco Lucas on the main drag. Looked like a lot of gringo guys in there and may have been called the "tavern" something or other. Just curious if you can meet regular mexicana's there? I do speak functional Spanish ok.

GrassHopping
07-30-07, 06:39
We all know the sometimes extraordinary measures we have to go through to separate ourselves from the cabbie or "guide" before entering whatever establishment we want to patronize. The reports about Genesis have been really great and I plan to check it out next week. After checking WikiMapia, I have an alternate route to propse as many of you walk from the santa fe bridge.

The Plaza/Cathedral area is a hub for many of the Juarez City buses. You want to cross the paso del norte bridge and walk to the end of Juarez avenue. Turn right (west) and head over to the plaza where the old Juarez cathedral is. The street running along the southern border of the plaza area (Where you enter Mercado Cuauhtemoc) is Vicente Guerrero. I recommend taking the Routa 4 Bus down Vicente Guerrero at least as far as the Canales Lira Baseball Park just past Parque Borunda. Bus should stop there or you can simply slap the roof or side of the bus to let the driver know to stop. Also "Alto por favor" will work. From the WikiMapia, Mesaje Genesis is one block east of the Canales Lira Baseball Park. Its a good little ride, once the bus leaves the Cathedral on vicente guerrero heading east, you will pass the benito juarez park about 1/4 of the way down to your destination. Quite a ways down you will pass parque borunda before you see the baseball stadium (on north side of street) where you get off.

I believe the fair is 35 cents. Anyway its a straight shot down vicente guerrero, its cheap, much closer than the hospital or other taxi drop off locations, and you don't have to deal with cabbies. I'll try it next week and report back.First post. I've been living in El Paso for 5 months now. I had only been to Genesis once but I go to a dance academy near Genesis for dance classes. For those of you who park your car near the Santa Fe Bridge, from Genesis, you can walk north toward trifuno de republica (16 of septiembe). In front of the General Hospital, you can take any bus that says "centro" on it. The most common one will say "centro X 16" which means Centro por 16 de septiembre. it costs 4.5 pesos. The bus go straight along 16 of september and you can get off on 16 of september where the cathedral is.

Parque Borunda is having a small fair there too so if anyone wants to take a chica for a date, that's a good place to go to.

Coyote79
07-30-07, 09:44
Do I read that right? $30 + a $35 tip?

'Oly chit man.
she was good. . .you know how it is, if a lady really does it for you, you want to give her things.

Q. How is a wife like a condom?

A. They spend too much time in your wallet, and not enough time on your dick.

Justsomeim
07-31-07, 04:02
The Plaza/Cathedral area is a hub for many of the Juarez City buses. You want to cross the paso del norte bridge and walk to the end of Juarez avenue. Turn right (west) and head over to the plaza where the old Juarez cathedral is. The street running along the southern border of the plaza area (Where you enter Mercado Cuauhtemoc) is Vicente Guerrero. I recommend taking the Routa 4 Bus down Vicente Guerrero at least as far as the Canales Lira Baseball Park just past Parque Borunda. Bus should stop there or you can simply slap the roof or side of the bus to let the driver know to stop. Also "Alto por favor" will work. From the WikiMapia, Mesaje Genesis is one block east of the Canales Lira Baseball Park. Its a good little ride, once the bus leaves the Cathedral on vicente guerrero heading east, you will pass the benito juarez park about 1/4 of the way down to your destination. Quite a ways down you will pass parque borunda before you see the baseball stadium (on north side of street) where you get off.That sounds great and cheap, but I gotta tell you, it sounds horrific to my gringo a$$. If you have the opportunity to go with a pro like Gino, he makes it too easy. We were unhassled on both cab rides and the walk was nothing. I believe we made it across the bridge and back to El Paso in less than 2 hours. That beats some of my driving times crossing to some of the MP's when the PDN bridge had all lanes running a few months ago.

The trip cost me

.05 taxi to vicinity of Genesis
.3 Massage
.1 tip
.05 taxi back to bridge

.5 and please remember, it was a great trip for me with Hazel....

Bbond
07-31-07, 07:17
she was good. . .you know how it is, if a lady really does it for you, you want to give her things.


I understand that, just makes it harder for us poor folks. lol.

Cienega32
07-31-07, 14:16
That sounds great and cheap, but I gotta tell you, it sounds horrific to my gringo a$$. You should try the bus just for the hell of it one day. I had the same feeling for it, after members kept talking about it. When I did finally try it, it was pretty fun.

If you're just zipping in for a nut it might take up too much time but if you're there with time on hand - go for it. It's painless even for a linguistically challenged gringo like me.

Palamides
08-01-07, 07:53
That sounds great and cheap, but I gotta tell you, it sounds horrific to my gringo a$$. If you have the opportunity to go with a pro like Gino, he makes it too easy. Cool sounds like you had fun! An ealier post mentioned a 10 minute walk from the Hospital and another post alluded to some members wanting to do this on the cheap, so I was just offering a suggestion. Riding the bus is a cheap way to get around Juarez and you dont have to hassel with the cabbies. I still think you should try the bus, then you can spend your time engaged in the hobby, drinking, eating and other otherwise being merry.

Justsomeim
08-02-07, 04:42
Cool sounds like you had fun! An ealier post mentioned a 10 minute walk from the Hospital and another post alluded to some members wanting to do this on the cheap, so I was just offering a suggestion. Riding the bus is a cheap way to get around Juarez and you dont have to hassel with the cabbies. I still think you should try the bus, then you can spend your time engaged in the hobby, drinking, eating and other otherwise being merry.Anytime your up for a trip, let me know. I'd have to experience and of course goin by myself on the bus for the first time would be a little intimidating for my still "gringo a$$".

Cienega32
08-05-07, 18:37
http://www.elpasotimes.com/business/ci_6546949

The El Paso Streets Department expects to be working by mid-August on building a temporary three-block canopy meant to ease travel for Juárez shoppers coming to Downtown El Paso stores.

The project, with a budget of $48,000, was approved by the City Council two weeks ago and Streets Department officials are now waiting for rails, tarp and cables that have been ordered. Once the parts come, the work will take two to three weeks, said Streets Director Daryl Cole.

Pedestrians entering the United States at the Paso del Norte Bridge will have to exit Customs on Oregon Street instead of El Paso Street starting in September because of bridge construction. The awning will run the length of three blocks over the west sidewalk of Oregon Street, from Cesar Chavez Highway to Sixth Street.

"We're trying to make it as favorable an experience as possible. The shade will help a lot," Cole said.

The city will also add lights on the new structure and some signage pointing the way to popular shopping streets, such as El Paso Street.

The covered walkway is to stay in place for 18 months. The project was prompted by Downtown merchants who feared the new pedestrian exit would divert shoppers away from their stores.

JackRabbit69
08-07-07, 02:10
Does anyone have any info on the website www.escortsjuarez.com, if so post or PM me. Also, does anyone know how to dial a juarez phone number from an american cell phone or local telephone? Thanks again.

Sex is great, have more.

Jackrabbit69

Starboat
08-07-07, 02:59
Does anyone remember how far back. Someone posted a list of all the massage parlors and directions on how to get there. I had printed out but lost. Been booted out of the Luxxor so need to find new horizons.

Thanks

Bbond
08-07-07, 06:19
Does anyone have any info on the website www.escortsjuarez.com, if so post or PM me. Also, does anyone know how to dial a juarez phone number from an american cell phone or local telephone? Thanks again.

Sex is great, have more.

Jackrabbit69

011-52-656-number

New rules may require a 1 before the 656, not sure.

Gallo Ingles
08-07-07, 12:18
011-52-656-number

New rules may require a 1 before the 656, not sure.

The 1 is required before the 656 if you are dialing to a cell phone.


Starboat, why did they boot you?

Coyote79
08-07-07, 13:29
Looking for Alejandra...the girl that use to be at Sirenas. I had read that she was at the Casa Colorada...is this true? I need to find those luscious lips...damn. Any info will help amigos
She was at Paraiso a month ago.
Haven't seen her lately.

Coyote79
08-07-07, 13:47
Had an great time with Diana at Genesis.

But Coyote, what’s so crazy about that?

Tried walking to Genesis down Oca street, near Hermanos Escobar.
As I’m walking down the sidewalk, a German Shepard sticks his head out through a gate and rips my shorts off!. . .no joke. . .

His owner offers me another pair of shorts, but they’re too small.
I start walking back, and a street guide takes me to a clothing store.
Turns out to be a women’s clothing store, so all I can buy were the sweat pants.

The owner took pity on me and called the police, but she kept getting disconnected.
We started flirting (“ur so handsome”). . .but she was 49 yo, so we’re just friends :-)

OTHER STUFF:
CHEAP WAY TO GENESIS
Oca street begins on Hermanos Escobar, right in the middle between Lincoln & Americas.
It’s only a 15 minute walk to Genesis from there.
(stay away from the dogs :-)

BTW, in my experience, the real danger in Juarez are the dogs & holes in the sidewalk.

Coyote79
08-07-07, 14:17
Made to Genesis. Diana wasn’t there. . .
Chose a petite blond with braces. . .flat chest, muscular. . .

I pay her, and she comes back to the room.
She looks at me. . “you don’t remember?”
Turns out to be a girl I dated for a couple of months after meeting her at Tiffany’s back in the day.
I didn’t recognize her because she bleached her hair.

We get caught up, including the usual jealousy (“Diana is ur girlfriend?”), and then start getting down to business.
She put the condom on backwards, so I reach for another one (always carry three).
She says “NO!”
I must use the original condom.
She’s won’t allow me to use another condom.
So she tries to put the original condom on, but it ain’t happening.

Since I can't have sex w/o a condom, I follow Bachelor Warrior’s and Palamides’ advice and quietly get dressed and just leave.

Besides, all the bossiness & weirdness made me soft.

She’s sorry, and I tell her it’s okay.

She’s a big YMMV girl.

OTHER STUFF:
Stopped in a Michael’s. . .there was a motorcycle cop sitting on the couch in there!
One lady working—she was about a “3”.

No one answered the door at Paraiso.

Justsomeim
08-07-07, 18:22
Made to Genesis. Diana wasn’t there. . .
Chose a petite blond with braces. . .flat chest, muscular. . .
Really sorry to hear this about Hazel, She's always been real good to me there, that's also one of my reasoning for always putting those tiny condoms on myself. Sorry to hear that yote, crazy about the shorts though, that's a good story, sorry it had to happen to you however.

When you went by Parasio, did it just look completely closed down or what? I used to be quite the regular there.

Thanks

Bbond
08-08-07, 12:34
When you went by Parasio, did it just look completely closed down or what? I used to be quite the regular there.

Thanks

Often, all girls will be busy, and won't answer the door.

Does anyone check Corpus or Selina any more?

Loryed is another choice I hardly see anything posted about.

Espina Heart
08-08-07, 23:40
Does anyone check Corpus or Selina any more?

Loryed is another choice I hardly see anything posted about.

I was just about to post on Loryed. .

When you say "Selina," I assume you mean Felinas and not Sirenas. Last I checked both Corpus and Felina was awhile back and they were both closed. That was during the period when the Ciudad was checking/updating licenses or whatever it was that they were doing (teaching the girls massage? LOL) and several places were closed. I've heard Felinas was reopened but don't know about Corpus.

My last several trips have been to Loryed, and in my opinion the girls have improved. Still some widebodies, but some are quite hot, and they've all been dressed in sexy as hell lingerie or short skirts lately. Que rica. Still $.3 for the hour. I haven't gone wrong with either Leslie or Roberta.

Leslie is late 20s, very pretty, wide hips but not gorda, and for me at least, an awesome GFE. DFK, DATY (which I rarely do in Juazoo) but she's very clean and tasty, and she'll do whatever you want, including BBBJCIM. And she doesn't stop at the first taste, she gives it all she's got till you tell her you're totally drained.

In general, BBBJ is the norm among these girls, and the splurging on a twosome was incredible awhile back. I find it very much worth the long bus ride out and back (take the Ponitente Sur bus).

Coyote79
08-09-07, 02:39
Really sorry to hear this about Hazel, She's always been real good to me there, that's also one of my reasoning for always putting those tiny condoms on myself. Sorry to hear that yote, crazy about the shorts though, that's a good story, sorry it had to happen to you however.

When you went by Parasio, did it just look completely closed down or what? I used to be quite the regular there.

Thanks
I appreciate the support.
I don't think Parasio is closed because I saw a lady walking out as I was going up. She was about a "4". . .seems they've hit a dry spell. . .

Yeah about the dogs. . .usually I walk on the streets now. . .

Bbond
08-09-07, 06:37
I was just about to post on Loryed. .

When you say "Selina," I assume you mean Felinas

Yes, my mistake.

Have been to Copus numerous times, Felina only a couple, did not like the setup, on time was ok, but just ok, the second was worthless.

Coyote79
08-09-07, 21:20
Really sorry to hear this about Hazel, She's always been real good to me there, that's also one of my reasoning for always putting those tiny condoms on myself.
Thanks
yeah went back there yesterday and the name she's using now is Hazel. . .

Funny old lady name. . .

Yes I'm not surprised you had a good experience with her. . .because even though we're friends she's a YMMV lady.

Coyote79
08-09-07, 21:33
By Louie Gilot / El Paso Times
El Paso Times
Article Launched:08/09/2007 12:00:00 AM MDT

JUAREZ -- After close to six years of bureaucratic back-and-forth, a binational bus route through Downtown El Paso and downtown Juárez is to be revived later this month.
Five yellow Volvo buses operated by a private Mexican company have obtained permission from the city of El Paso to pick up and drop off passengers in Downtown El Paso, and are tentatively expected to start doing so Aug. 20.

The company, Dos Naciones, which does business in El Paso as El Paso/Juárez Trolley Co., could shuttle 1,200 to 1,500 passengers a day, mostly shoppers, with pickups every 15 minutes, officials said.

"What we want to see is greater dynamism between the two cities," said Jose Fernandez Sigala, associate director of Intralog, the Juárez design and logistics firm that handles the project for Dos Naciones.

"I think it obviously will benefit Juarenses who come to shop in El Paso, but it's also going to benefit El Pasoans. A lot of El Pasoans don't come to Juárez for fear of driving," Fernandez said.

With the binational buses, called "Transborde," "they can come as tourists, to visit family, go shopping, do business," Fernandez said.

The new route starts with four stops up Paso del Norte and Francisco Villa streets in Juárez, crosses the Paso del Norte Bridge, makes three drop-off stops on El Paso Street, a pickup and drop-off stop at San Jacinto Plaza and three pickup stops on Stanton Street before taking the Stanton Street bridge back to Juárez.

The buses will tentatively run between 7 a.m. and 7 p.m.

El Paso city officials said the Transborde buses will not compete with Sun Metro's Downtown circulator route because the Juárez buses charge $1.50 per ride, while Sun Metro charges 25 cents Downtown.

"It's not really going to compete with Sun Metro, being that they can't go past the Downtown area," Sun Metro spokeswoman Cynthia Grajeda said.

The imminent start of the service was many years in the making.

El Paso Assistant City Attorney Raymond Telles said discussions between city officials and their Juárez counterparts date back to 2001 or 2002.

But at the time, El Paso city officials said the binational agreement should be reciprocal, and that Sun Metro buses should be allowed in Juárez. The requirement tied down the negotiation in federal Mexican red tape, city officials said.

So when the city of Juárez sold their never-used binational buses and a 15-year concession to operate a binational route to Dos Naciones, El Paso city officials eased up.

"Let's drop our concession request so they can start bringing people over to shop and to reduce congestion on the bridge," South-West city Rep. Beto O'Rourke said he argued this year.

Two months ago, the mass transit board allowed Dos Naciones, which belongs to the group Omnibus de Mexico, to share seven stops on El Paso, Mills and Stanton streets with Sun Metro buses.

"Sun Metro has a real capacity issue. Now is not the moment," for a Juárez service, Telles said, leaving the door open to revisit the issue at a later time.

El Paso makes no money on the deal, but doesn't lose money either. And city officials said El Pasoans will benefit from more public transportation options and from less pollution.

Downtown El Paso merchants were eager for the service to begin. The last bus company to offer binational service, Juárez's Twin Cities, discontinued the route in 2004.

"This type of service ... has a direct correlation with retail," said Mike Breitinger, executive director of the Central Business Association. "When these services stopped, we saw a drop in sales."

Eventually, many border crossers will want to avoid paying for various rides and having to change buses by using the Transborde buses.

But the timing for the service launch is somewhat awkward.

Customs and Border Protection officials reported that heavy construction at the Paso del Norte Bridge has led many to ditch their cars and cross on foot. Pedestrian traffic has grown from about 17,000 a day to about 22,000 a day this summer compared to last because of the renovations.

Since buses have no fast lane, will border crossers opt for spending up to two hours on a bridge line?

Fernandez said the Transborde buses offer amenities that will make waiting more tolerable, such as air conditioning and televisions. Buses also have disabled access and bicycle racks, but lack bathrooms.

Once the bus reaches the inspection building, Transborde passengers will be treated like all bus passengers. They will be asked to disembark, walk through the pedestrian checkpoint and reboard afterward, CBP officials said.

Louie Gilot may be reached at lgilot@elpasotimes.com; 546-6131.

Guapo Grande
08-10-07, 14:43
Does anyone know what's become of my friend Angie, the spinner with the buck teeth? She used to work at Dia y noche, and I read on this board that she's at Aldo's, but they say she doesn't work there.

Guapo Grande
08-10-07, 19:16
Anyone know where I can find Angie, the spinner with the "funny face"? She doesn't seem to be at Aldo's as I read on this board.

Guapo Grande
08-11-07, 02:17
I arrived in Juarez yesterday afternoon and decided to take a drive through El Centro. As you know, the streets are narrow and there are lots of pedestrians. I stopped to let a family cross and was very shortly thereafter signalled to pull over by 2 bicycle cops. They gave me a thorough shakedown, searching everything including a pat down. It was a male, mid-20's and a female, not unattractive (I couldn't help but notice) about the same age, both on bikes. The male told me he pulled me over because I had stopped in the middle of a lane of traffic. After some BS about the transito delayed by 1 hour at an accident, the male cop asked me how I'd like to handle it. In spited of what I'd read on this and other forums, I wanted to play it cool before offering him a bribe, so I said I'd like to pay the fine here and now. He said ok, but he asked me to be discreet, as there were cameras about. I managed to seperate a 500 peso note from my wad in my pocket and slipped it to him and I went on my way.

So did he take advantage of my faulty driving to make a few bucks, or was my driving only an excuse to extort money. I was considering the fact that I had heard that crime was up in Juarez and perhaps his superiors told him to stop everyone who looked suspicious (I was driving a cadillac, driving slow and looking around. Could have been the actions of a drug dealer I suppose).

But later that day, he removed all doubt. It was a Thursday night, I was making my usual rounds of the clubs, (Hollywood, Queens, A&C, etc.) and I was ON FOOT. Here come the same pair of cops on bikes. Again, he "pulls me over" and asks for my ID. No traffic infraction, no possible infraction at all. I was just walking down the street. I asked him "don't you remember me from earlier?" He shook his head no, then I saw the realization dawn on him. He told me to take care of myself and sent me on my way.

It seems to me that this is a clear case of this pair stopping any gringo they see and shaking them down for cash. This was a Thursday night and there were few, if any other gringos around. I wonder what it would be like when the town is full of UTEP students. They going to be stopping everyone? It was clear that they stopped me strictly because I'm a gringo. This pair is a menace and I wish there was something that could be done. Just another reason to avoid downtown.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Cienega32
08-11-07, 05:37
Why are so many of "our" relative locations "marked for deletion in 8 days"?

Not just the clubs but some of the hotels too.

Cienega32
08-11-07, 06:40
But later that day, he removed all doubt. It was a Thursday night, I was making my usual rounds of the clubs, (Hollywood, Queens, A&C, etc.) and I was ON FOOT. Here come the same pair of cops on bikes. Again, he "pulls me over" and asks for my ID. No traffic infraction, no possible infraction at all. I was just walking down the street. I asked him "don't you remember me from earlier?" He shook his head no, then I saw the realization dawn on him. He told me to take care of myself and sent me on my way.

It seems to me that this is a clear case of this pair stopping any gringo they see and shaking them down for cash. This was a Thursday night and there were few, if any other gringos around. I wonder what it would be like when the town is full of UTEP students. They going to be stopping everyone? It was clear that they stopped me strictly because I'm a gringo. This pair is a menace and I wish there was something that could be done. Just another reason to avoid downtown.
I would've gone with the gringo in the Cadu on the traffic stop raising an eyebrow but the on-foot incident is interesting.

A few months back I was stopped THREE times - all on foot - by the bikes. The first time was the full shake with nothing missing at the end. The main questions was the drugs thing and if I was drunk (no). And asking how much money I had, after it was removed from my pocket - like a quiz to see if I knew. This was by the Las Vegas corner right after I came thru the Plaza.

The 2nd time was by Ano and the first thing I said when I handed my ID over was "I just talked with you guys down the block" It was over an hour in the past and I told him so. He radioed out then handed me my ID and said "Have a good night and be careful". They always seem to want to gauge how much Spanish I speak/know and asking me that is always first. They seem to speak better English than they did last year.

Later on, on my way to Casa, one was propped against a wall with his bike next to him. He was on his cell and stopped to ask where I was heading. When I told him "Casa Colorado" he said "where?". "Casa Colorado - San Souci - right there! (pointing)". "Oh, OK - have fun".

It was a very odd night and they were virtually everywhere. These events of late convince me to get a cheap room whenever I cross the river. A place to keep the 'surplus', do any accounting, and to have a rest stop area when I want a breather. It's been paying off, on nights like that.

I started doing that after seeing a big increase in the cholo atmosphere last fall. Between that and the Policia, I think it's a good bet for me as I never take the plastic with me for obvious reasons.

Mugroso
08-11-07, 06:46
I wanted to play it cool before offering him a bribe, so I said I'd like to pay the fine here and now.

That is exactly what you did. You offered a bribe with other words, thats all. Remember this, be cool and play stupid. You could have either forced him to issue you a ticket or let you go or possibly put him in a position to out right ask for the bribe.

Once I got caught in traffic, the light changed and the rest is a blur. A corner cop told me to pull over. I played stupid waiting for the pitch and none came. I then expected a ticket. None was issued even though one could have been legitimately issued.

Another time a corner cop pulled me over for not "stopping" properly at a stop sign. Again, I waited for the pitch and none came though there was a hint as to how inconvenient it is to pay a ticket at the firehouse. A ticket was issued for 13 dollars. If it had come up she probably would have wanted 20 bucks.

That cop you gave 50 bucks to probably thought it was his lucky day. Shame on you for bribing a cop, you owe us all a massage.

As for Angie I hope you find her. Angie has an ass made for doggie. She is a good chica and lots of fun. Its been a while.

Keep having fun
Mugroso

Mugroso
08-11-07, 06:50
I think it's a good bet for me as I never take the plastic with me for obvious reasons.

Smooth move, you don't want anybody, cop or cholo, taking you to an ATM machine. With the exception of my debit card, I have no cards that have a PIN number. I always decline when they want to activate one for me.

Mugroso

Cienega32
08-11-07, 09:45
Smooth move, you don't want anybody, cop or cholo, taking you to an ATM machine. With the exception of my debit card, I have no cards that have a PIN number. I always decline when they want to activate one for me.

Mugroso
I worry more about the cops. I remember hearing stories about them making you max it, holding you till the next day and max it again. It was TJ and during a time when there more fake cops than real cops but hey... why risk it anyway.

Guapo Grande
08-11-07, 19:51
That is exactly what you did. You offered a bribe with other words, thats all. Remember this, be cool and play stupid. You could have either forced him to issue you a ticket or let you go or possibly put him in a position to out right ask for the bribe.

In my case, he made it clear that I would have to wait an hour for the transito to arrive, then go somewhere the next day to pay the ticket. It was pretty clear he wanted to be paid off.So what's the recommended course of action? Play dumb and wait til they outright ask for dough, then refuse? Call his bluff (he probably wouldn't have wanted to wait around for an hour either) expecting he'll eventually let me go? Accept the ticket and handle it the legal way? Or do what I did (except that next time I'll offer $20) and pay him off?

Mugroso
08-12-07, 02:14
So what's the recommended course of action? Play dumb and wait til they outright ask for dough, then refuse?

That is correct. As far as refusing play that card to until you feel actually threatened.


Call his bluff (he probably wouldn't have wanted to wait around for an hour either) expecting he'll eventually let me go? Accept the ticket and handle it the legal way?

Chances are they will not out right ask for a bribe. They will make the situation an inconvenience for you hoping you will just offer. Intimidation is a tool of theirs.

You see, Mexico is trying to clean up their act. There are those of little faith even in Mexico. Mexicans are victims of police corruption as well. But they are trying. In the "old" days the police would make no bones about what they want.

I know I came of a little harsh responding to your post but I just ticks me off to see us get jacked up down there.

Mugroso

Mugroso
08-12-07, 05:00
Why are so many of "our" relative locations "marked for deletion in 8 days"? Not just the clubs but some of the hotels too.

Interesting. I bet they used some kind of key word search to look for "inappropriate" markings. But why would they delete hotels as well?

Mugroso

Cienega32
08-13-07, 05:09
Interesting. I bet they used some kind of key word search to look for "inappropriate" markings. But why would they delete hotels as well?

Mugroso
Over by Villa Manport, at the park across the street, I had inserted the bus stop and the taxi stand. The taxi stand is marked for deletion.

I also notice that the bullring had "abusive" tags on the entries (which I made a harsh comment about) - those are now gone; the "abusive" tags.

I think someone is on a crusade.

I notice the Tijuana entries are intact - complete with prices...

Benton Quest
08-13-07, 20:53
Looks like I'll be in EP for a 24 hour business next week (in Monday night, out Tuesday night). If you were in my shoes - or more correctly, in my condom - what would be your preferences? I will be arriving around 8 PM and have a meeting first thing the morning so I won't have much time at all but can't pass up the opportunity for a quick pop or two. What hotel would be the closest to the bridge and what bar or MP would offer up good service to a traveler on a short schedule? Thanks in advance for your advice!

Mugroso
08-14-07, 01:08
Gentlmn Mongr. What a cute little fucklet. The pissing-in-the-sink shot is a classic. Hope to be in El Paso on business in August. Think I'll have to have some of that ass if she's still around. Thanks for the excellent report and pix!Benton Quest you answered your own question in the photo gallery. You can count out the MPs as you will be arriving late. The bars will be dead as hell and a few closed being a Monday. Head over to the Panama Club. With some luck Jessica will be there.

Mugroso

Carwash Charlie
08-14-07, 04:40
Gentlemen,

Can you please help a novice? I am in El Paso on business, and plan to go to whatever part of Juarez you are all visiting!

I need basic information. Where do I park in El Paso (I want to leave my car there, and do Juarez by foot)? Do I cross at the Santa Fe Bridge by the Abraham Chavez Theatre?

I don't want to fall victim to 'guides'. Where do I go from the border, how do I get to the right neighborhood, what establishments should I visit, and how much $$ should I bring for 2-3 sessions?

Meat Loaf
08-18-07, 00:11
Gentlemen,

Can you please help a novice? I am in El Paso on business, and plan to go to whatever part of Juarez you are all visiting!

I need basic information. Where do I park in El Paso (I want to leave my car there, and do Juarez by foot)? Do I cross at the Santa Fe Bridge by the Abraham Chavez Theatre?

I don't want to fall victim to 'guides'. Where do I go from the border, how do I get to the right neighborhood, what establishments should I visit, and how much $$ should I bring for 2-3 sessions? Hi Chris,

This is my "Guide to Cd. Juarez, Mexico, and it’s Famed Locations. " as a "former-tour guide" and resident of Cd. Juarez and El Paso. This experience was typically provided for US $50 per man including translation services, but for my buddies on this site it serves as my contribution, so enjoy.

Getting There (Cd. Juarez): Park your car on El Paso street near the bridge and pay US $4 for all day, secure parking. Pay US $0. 35 to walk across the downtown bridge. And keep US $0. 35 for the return trip.

Ave. Juarez:

You are now on Avenida Juarez: No brothels exist on Ave. Juarez unless you walk about 6 blocks and there will be three hotels. One hotel, (#A, ) will have a long stairway up to the second floor. The other hotel, (#be, ) alongside of it charges US $20 per night, but no ladies can enter. Across the street from both hotels is yet another hotel, (#see, ) with a flock of street walkers standing in-front.

The hookers in-front of hotel #see charge US $25 per session or US $80 for all-night. Typical Cd. Juarez sessions are 30 – 40 minutes. These girls are of various quality usually trick within hotel #see. Hotel #see charges US $13 per room, per night, with maid service and television. You're best bet is to rent your own room before buying the girl, otherwise you'll be charged US $5 for a one-hour room rental. Additionally, by having this room rented during your selection process for the night will give you a place to return should you desire. Some of the girls live in the hotel with their children and some do not. Should you happen to get a girl who lives in the hotel then you'll have a great time with her and her friends. No beverages are sold, but you can bring whatever you like into hotel #see.

Hotel #A with the huge staircase turns tricks quickly. Standard CD. Juarez room rates are US $5 per session and US $20 per girl, per session. This hotel has about 15. 20 girls in-front of its entrance and upstairs.

Hotel #be is a quiet hotel with 8 rooms simply for sleeping and no visitors.

Ave. Mariscal:

This is strip club / *****house central!

As soon as you cross the downtown El Paso bridge, Ave. Mariscal is one-block to the right (west side.) Walk about 2 blocks along Ave. Juarez until you see that huge billboard on the corner and turn tight entering Ave. Mariscal. There is a house with about 7 girls charging US $25 per 30-minutes. This house is across the street from "Club Hollywood. " "Club Hollywood" charges US $2 per beer; same price for girls; but the girls take you up the street about two or three blocks to the hotel they turn tricks at.

One block south of "Club Hollywood" is another strip club charging similar prices, but the rooms are upstairs. 1/2 block south of "Club Hollywood" along Ave. Mariscal is "Club Delicias. " They have rooms available next door and 5 mature women within the bar. Across the street from "Club Delicias" is another hotel that serves about 3 or 5 girls at similar pricing. Another 1/2 block south along Ave. Mariscal are the "Burrito Stands. " Many street hookers work here, but they may be under the influence. On this very same corner is "Club Irmas: " Another strip club with two floors: Upstairs is VIP for US $10 per beer and downstairs is where everyone is at. VIP is not worth it! Similar prices for girls here as well. And they are usually staffed with 15 or so young ones. Walk along Ave. Mariscal for another block and many cantinas exist. These cantinas serve mostly beer, but anyone and everyone is for sale along Ave. Mariscal including bartenders and wait staff at the standard rate mentioned several earlier. Another block south along Ave. Mariscal is "Club Panama, " which mostly caters to truck drivers. Nice atmosphere with a rate of US $60 per session. Every 1. 5 hours a a shuttle-bus is sent between "Club Colorado" and the truck stops (Petro, Flying J) in Horizon, Texas. Many skinny, scantly clad street walkers on the this block and the next block south are trans-sexuals or homosexuals dressed in drag. This completes the tour of Ave. Mariscal.

Club Colorado:

Ave. Mariscal is an ugly, dirty street, but has many businesses located upon it. If you venture one or two blocks west the neighborhoods become more desolate. "Club Colorado"(location: three blocks west of the burrito shops, "Club Irmas, " four blocks west of Ave. Juarez, and one block south.) This is truck driver central brightly painted in red. Girls here are sexy and cost US $60 per session. Nice location, laid back atmosphere. Every 1. 5 hours a a shuttle-bus is sent between "Club Colorado" and the truck stops (Petro, Flying J) in Horizon, Texas.

One block east of "Club Colorado" going towards Ave. Mariscal and Ave. Juarez in the alley is another dive-house charging US $10, but simply for quick action. One block south of "Club Colorado" is "Chicos" who has about 5 girls and rooms available. Across the street from "Club Colorado" is another location, but I can’t remember it’s details.

Club Pink Lady:

This location is far. They moved it about 4 years ago and now requires a taxi. It’s about 20 blocks from the areas mentioned above. Again, this is a truck driver location with a shuttle-bus being sent every 1. 5 hours between "Pink Lady" and the truck stops (Petro, Flying J) in Horizon, Texas. Girls costs US $60 per session in a nice atmosphere.

Cd. Juarez doesn’t start serving customers at the above locations until 11 a. M. And closes at 2 a. M. The street walkers along Ave. Juarez work until daylight starting at 8 p. M.

Behind the Cathedral:

For those with adventure, experience, and a tight budget (US $13) you may venture behind the Cathedral. Women are available almost 24-hours per day.

"Behind the Cathedral"(location: where Ave. Juarez ends or Ave. Mariscal runs into the Cathedral; this street will be Ave. 16 de septiembre and full-of-traffic; walk south for about 3 minutes until you see many stands running east-to-west; these stands sell food, clothing, and other goods. This "alley" will be the only "alley" running in this east-to-west formation.) In the daytime you will see lots of people shopping, while at night you will see many people stumbling drunk. This "alley" is rather large and has about 5 discrete hotels open 24-hours per day with women sitting in-front. At night, about 40 women are outside and during the day 100 are present. These girls are of all ages, all varieties, and work as independent prostitutes not affiliated with any specific hotel! During the daytime it’s best at 2 p. M. When many women are transferring buses and are looking for a quickie before going home. Within the cantinas they dance with gentleman for US $0. 50 per song or sex for US $13 within one of the many hotels. The price break-down is US $10 for the girl and US $3 for the room. Always pay for the room yourself when in Cd. Juarez, otherwise you may be paying for the room twice. One block directly south of this "alley" area are more street-walkers within the cantinas and outside at the above rates and variance of ages.

The Pronaf:

(location: Free Bridge of the Americas; to 16 de septiembre or ave. De la raza.) Many massage parlors exist along this street and throughout this area (Ave. Lopez Mateo, and the other large Ave. With four names which lies east) charging US $25 per session. Many are open 24-hours per day. You can always read the newspaper "El Diario" for more locations.

Ladies Bars:

Cd. Juarez if full of "Ladies Bars! " Every bar, damn-near, is a "Ladies Bar, " which means 10 women serve as bartenders and consume beverages with you. The prices are not expensive (Cubertazo of 6 beers, 7 ounces, for US $5. 50.) Should you feel the desire to penetrate your bartender she’ll quote anywhere from US $25 – 100 per session, plus the hotel you would need to locate. "Ladies Bars" are great to drink beer, talk with a pretty woman, and possible bang. It’s a totally different atmosphere than *****houses, cantinas, and brothels.

The Women of Cd. Jaurez:

It's very, extremely, really easy to talk to women anywhere in Cd. Juarez. They are more than willing to create a conversation with a foreigner. They are more than willing to give up the goods too. Many have big assess from eating burritos everyday, while many are skinny. Some have dark sexy skin, while others don't. Lots of Juarez speaks English, can cross the bridge legally, and have family on the other side in El Paso, while most dream about the USA and meeting a gentleman to bring them into the USA.

In Cd. Jaurez, as an American, the police will attempt to extort you for a bribe of US $10 – 20 per officer regardless of location. In the downtown area it’s prevalent and more so behind the Cathedral. Furthermore, the citizens of Cd. Juarez more times than not will choose the version of their fellow-countryman versus the American should a disagreement or drunken banter arise, so always remember this advice.

Enjoy Your Excursions in Cd. Juarez, Mexico, and read my report about the other side of El Paso del Norte- El Paso, Texas, USA.

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Cienega32
08-18-07, 07:03
hi chris,

this is my "guide to cd. juarez, mexico, and it’s famed locations. " as a "former-tour guide" and resident of cd. juarez and el paso. this experience was typically provided for us $50 per man including translation services, but for my buddies on this site it serves as my contribution, so enjoy.

meat loaf - interesting breakdown but much of el centro has changed from what you've presented. irma's was turned to rubble in april, as was a couple of others you mentioned. "chico's" (one block south of casa colorado/san souci) i believe is club laura's run by 'chito' but no matter as he was busted and shut down for supplying **** girls.

i can't recently remember ever seeing a flock of girls in front of any hotel on ave juarez.

by the cathedral, it sounds like you're talking about all the street vendors that used to line those streets - gone, as it's been turned into a "walking mall" type of experience (but the bars are stil there) - as much of el centro is doomed to be in the near future. many buildings on mariscal and neighboring streets are being razed here and there and the master plan is for parking lots, walking areas, sitting areas, and other "we're really a nice town" types of environments.

Bbond
08-18-07, 07:48
Meat Loaf - interesting breakdown but much of El Centro has changed from what you've presented.

Yes, I'd say his report is way outdated.

Meat Loaf
08-18-07, 12:31
Yes, I'd say his report is way outdated.I haven't been in that area for about 1 year: How quickly things change.

I do remember Baccus, Jokers, Capones, Bar Las Americas, el Traje, and a few others in the Cordova Americas, Pronaf, and la Curva neighborhoods.

Thanks for the info about what's changed. Every now and then I remember the good years I had in the places I mentioned.

Coyote79
08-18-07, 18:46
Gentlemen,

Can you please help a novice? I am in El Paso on business, and plan to go to whatever part of Juarez you are all visiting!

I need basic information. Where do I park in El Paso (I want to leave my car there, and do Juarez by foot)? Do I cross at the Santa Fe Bridge by the Abraham Chavez Theatre?

I don't want to fall victim to 'guides'. Where do I go from the border, how do I get to the right neighborhood, what establishments should I visit, and how much $$ should I bring for 2-3 sessions?
This is what I would do. . .other mongers have different MOs. . .

Before you leave, you’ll need either a passport or driver’s license, at least $80 in small bills, and around $1 in change.

Don’t take you’re military ID unless you’re IRR or retired. Juarez is off-limits to US military.

There’s several fee parking lots you where you can park downtown. You can’t miss ‘em.

Start walking down El Paso street. You’ll cross the Sante Fe bridge, aka the Paso de Norte bridge, as you cross over into Juarez.

Just keep walking straight down Avenue Juarez. After about four blocks you’ll hit Ignacio Mejia street. Take a left. Immediately on your right will be Cleopatra’s Massage Parlor.

Your “massage” costs $35.

However, there’s a good chance there will be no doable girls at Cleopatra’s.
In which case you’ll need a back-up plan.

Back-up plans include. . .

By this time, I’m sure you would of noticed all the cabbies circling around you like vultures looking at a carcass.

If you have money to burn just let one of the cabbies take you to the Pink Lady.

But, FYI, all the cabbies get a big kick-back from the adult businesses. The businesses, in turn, jack up the monger’s fee proportionately.

So letting one of the cabbies take you to the Pink Lady will cost over $100 total.

Or, you could go trolling down Mariscal street, which is one block to the left (facing the bridge) and parallel to Avenue Juarez. It’s the red light district.

But, in my experience, Mariscal street is mostly full of druggie criminal types and all my experiences there have been horrible.

So, what I would recommend is to instruct one of the cabbies to take you to Hospital General, because you need to visit a sick friend.

Then start walking down Oca street, crossing first at Ave. Paseo Triunfo De La Rep.
About four blocks down, on the right is Genesis Massage Parlor.

The “massage” is $30.

Genesis will cost you about $50 plus tip. $10 for the cab each way, and $30 for your massage.

Be aware of massage parlor etiquette.
**Never complain to the manager, or anyone else, about anything. Complaining puts your safety at risk. If you have a bad experience with a girl simply get dressed & leave quietly.
**Avoid any argument with anyone. You will lose. The people in charge favor the Mexican's version over the Americano's despite whatever the facts are. All a girl has to do is let a tear roll down her cheek and immediately she's the victim and you are the villain.
**Shower & brush your teeth before the session.
**Some girls charge extra for BJs, and some don’t. Pay it if she asks. Don't argue with her.
**Usually FK or any type of anal is extra. Ask her first. If she doesn’t charge you extra for these give her a bigger tip.

BTW most of the massage parlors are closed in the morning, Sundays, and after 9 PM.

Also, be aware about Genesis. . .Genesis is run very strictly. . .
**Customers aren't allowed to wait inside the lobby. . .you'll have to wait outside. . .
**After your session customers are not allowed to enter the lobby--leave the building immediately.
**They even padlock the inside bathroom. One of the girls will have to unlock it for you if you have to use it.
**If you take more than 40 minutes the girl will start whining “tiempo, tiempo”. I usually skip DATY for this reason.
**They also seem to have some kind-of "one condom per visit" rule that I don't really understand.

HAPPY MONGERING!!!

Carwash Charlie
08-18-07, 21:05
Gentlemen,

I can't thank you enough for your helpful advice.

Who would have thought such a fantastic place was within walking distance of the U.S.!

Palamides
08-18-07, 23:25
This is what I would do. . .other mongers have different MOs. . .

Before you leave, you’ll need either a passport or driver’s license, at least $80 in small bills, and around $1 in change....


....Be aware of massage parlor etiquette.

**Never complain to the manager, or anyone else, about anything. Complaining puts your safety at risk. If you have a bad experience with a girl simply get dressed & leave quietly.
**Avoid any argument with anyone. You will lose. The people in charge favor the Mexican's version over the Americano's despite whatever the facts are. All a girl has to do is let a tear roll down her cheek and immediately she's the victim and you are the villain.
**Shower & brush your teeth before the session.
**Some girls charge extra for BJs, and some don’t. Pay it if she asks. Don't argue with her.
**Usually FK or any type of anal is extra. Ask her first. If she doesn’t charge you extra for these give her a bigger tip.

BTW most of the massage parlors are closed in the morning, Sundays, and after 9 PM.

Also, be aware about Genesis. . .Genesis is run very strictly. . .
**Customers aren't allowed to wait inside the lobby. . .you'll have to wait outside. . .
**After your session customers are not allowed to enter the lobby--leave the building immediately.
**They even padlock the inside bathroom. One of the girls will have to unlock it for you if you have to use it.
**If you take more than 40 minutes the girl will start whining “tiempo, tiempo”. I usually skip DATY for this reason.
**They also seem to have some kind-of "one condom per visit" rule that I don't really understand.

HAPPY MONGERING!!!I sure hope Chris was paying attention to this one. Bravo Coyote79!

Cienega32
08-19-07, 09:10
I haven't been in that area for about 1 year: How quickly things change.
Give it another year and I don't think too many of us will recognize the place.

Those Winds of Change have brought a bit of a strange atmosphere to El Centro as well with seemingly increased Policia presence but less Federales. It's been a while since I've seen a pickup loaded with flak and automatic weapon toting passengers.

There's a "teenager curfew" now as well.

Meat Loaf
08-19-07, 13:46
Give it another year and I don't think too many of us will recognize the place.I wonder what's going to happen to Cd. Juarez and other Mexican-border towns in 2008 when the terrorism law kicks in regarding passports. You know that in 2008 anyone and everyone will need a passport to enter the USA so that means no last-minute Cd. Juarez excursions. Instead you'll have to have your passport beforehand and most Americans (95%) don't have a passport.

Coyote79
08-19-07, 14:57
I sure hope Chris was paying attention to this one. Bravo Coyote79!
yeah thanks. . .as you guys know, I've had to learn MP etiquette the hard way, and also from you & other mongers on this board. . .

Dam. . .won't be able to monger for the next couple of weeks. . .mongers need the border. . .

Palamides
08-19-07, 20:36
Saturday 8/18/07

Got together with a friend last night and head to PDN (Paso Del Norte) parking areas. Really hard to find a place to park due to the construction and long lines at the bridge (maybe more are parking and walking like me), and the Marco Solis concert possibly?

As Coyote79 reports in his post it’s a little different around el centro. My friend and I both made comments about the "bad vibe" we felt as we walked down Juarez Ave. We looked from Juarez avenue to the back streets at some of the demolition, but didn't go back to check things out. The memory of being searched by Policia for "drugs" still fresh in my mind.

Kentucky bar was the first stop and it was great. I brought my digital camera and took some great pictures, after asking, of the inside which is now complimented by a small kitchen in the back. They turn out great bar food and snacks. Try the chicken wings! Extensive menu including steaks just haven’t tried anything else.

Chapaulin (sp? ) Colorado had some pretty girls and we had a few drink there, but it was pretty slow. Still a nice place to hang out and have drinks and lots of eye candy. I would not recommend going to this one without a Spanish speaker. Took no pictures here, I asked the management and was very nicely reminded some of the patrons would not appreciate being photographed. I appreciate being alive and in good health so the camera stayed in its case.

El Museuo (M Bar) located just to the east of Sphinx Night club (closed) was also a little slow but they had the same group of Argentines working there. Very exclusive place, incredibly hot women. The women don’t work in the trade but if your looking for eye candy this is the place.

Pink lady was good. We arrived around 11:30. I spoke with "Chris" who claimed to be from Monterey and "Brenda" who both spoke English. Both Jesus (Cool Waiter) and the "Mama San" were there. I realized we were taking a cab there, but because I know I wasn’t going to take a girl to the room I didn’t worry about it. We were too far gone so I didn’t even ask for prices. Pink lady has been hit or miss lately, but there was a good selection of cute girls to pick from if your not too picky. I enjoy GFE when I can get it so I like to chat with the girls to find out who is going to be fun. While the girl told me she is there almost every day, its rare I see the same girls on two successive occasions; lots of turnover I guess.

If you buy a woman a drink ($4) you can find out if she is going to be fun or its probably going to be mechanical fairly quickly then take her to the room. Don’t count on seeing her again unless you go there on a weekly basis. After talking for several minutes and a few beers the lady I was with stroking my leg, putting her head on my shoulder, and lightly kissing so it was a good stop for this drunk.

Walkover line was backed up at the bridge a little after 2:00 p. M. I took a picture of a drunk chick standing in line and one of my friend on the other side of the walkover checkpoint and one of the customs agents told me to stop taking pics of the bridge. I'm assuming for security reasons.

One the way to my friend’s house stopped at Chico’s which is good as ever. Lots of hot younger girls at the Montana location. Its not too difficult to strike up a conversation with someone over a double order and some fries. Chicos is open till 3:00 am so its a good after the bar stop but don't try to come too late or they will be cloased. The two security guards turned a number of people away right at 3:00 so get there early.

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Cienega32
08-20-07, 20:54
Where is this "M Bar" by the now closed Sphinx nite club? I never heard of either of them.

Palamides
08-21-07, 01:25
Where is this "M Bar" by the now closed Sphinx nite club? I never heard of either of them.The M Bar (Museo Bar) is right next to Tumbalo. the sphinx "Esfinge" is the HUGE Pyramid shaped building on the other side of the street from San Martin (Formerly Tesquinos) near Americas/Hermanos Escobar interesection. Esfinge is on the wikimapia and M bar is the bulding just to the east of it. If you havent been it is definitely worth going in for the drink for the gorgeous women from Venezuela. Going north up Americas turn into the Esfinge parking lot and take the road all the way to the back for M Bar. Tumbalo is supposed to be a happening place for salsa dancing as well.

Meat Loaf
08-21-07, 13:20
Tumbalo is supposed to be a happening place for salsa dancing as well.It is a great place for salsa with two floors, dinner, and live salsa. Cover US $5.

Cienega32
08-22-07, 08:28
Easy enough to find with those references! Thank you, Sir.


The M Bar (Museo Bar) is right next to Tumbalo. the sphinx "Esfinge" is the HUGE Pyramid shaped building on the other side of the street from San Martin (Formerly Tesquinos) near Americas/Hermanos Escobar interesection. Esfinge is on the wikimapia and M bar is the bulding just to the east of it. If you havent been it is definitely worth going in for the drink for the gorgeous women from Venezuela. Going north up Americas turn into the Esfinge parking lot and take the road all the way to the back for M Bar. Tumbalo is supposed to be a happening place for salsa dancing as well.

Rich Uncle
08-25-07, 05:38
I'm new to the area, and am looking to check out the night life in Jtown labor day weekend. Looking for a wingman to tag along. Anyone interested PM me.

Thanks

Clydesdale
08-25-07, 22:48
Eden is on Tecnologico, on the northbound side, immediately north of Zaragosa. The sign isn't very prominent, you just pull into the first building north of Zaragosa. The girls there are fun and friendly. There was a full range of sizes, most of them good looking. Four of them I would rate as quite hot - a rating I don't give lightly. The initial quote from most of them to go to the room was 100, but I didn't try negotiating - it was late. Drinks for the ladies are 8, but they took their time with them. If you're visiting the clubs on Tecnologico, Eden is worth checking out. You won't go wrong with a lap dance from Vanessa.

I noticed the old Lantirna Verde had an Irma's sign on it now. Has anyone checked it out?

Cienega32
08-26-07, 02:25
I noticed the old Lantirna Verde had an Irma's sign on it now. Has anyone checked it out?
So they DID move to that joint.

A while back I ran into Chelo, the Virginia's door-chick, at the door at Centro Laguerno (sp) and she said Irma's was going to open at the old Green Lantern.

Cienega32
08-26-07, 02:29
Have any of you bridge walkers noticed if UNO or the old Juarez Turf Club has opened? I'm not a big fan of Caliente.

UNO supposedly bought the old Turf Club and was in the process of renovating it when they "suddenly closed". I was wondering if they got their papers in order.

If anyone notices if either of these two are open over the weekend, please post it?

Mugroso
08-26-07, 10:21
After more than a month of not going to Wazoo I headed down Friday night (8/24). I started off as usual at the bottom of Mariscal St. Had a soda at Las Palmeras. The midget and her sister were on duty. I think the midget has given up on getting seconds from me. She smiled, we shook hands and that was that. She didn't even offer her sister to me. In the usual crowd of fat cows was a weird site. A really and I mean really skinny chica was working. So skinny it creeped me out.

Then I hit fatty central (Central Lagunero) and with Chela running the place the fatties are still there but more non fatties there so I stayed for a bit. Marisela, who I met at Las Vegas Bar is working there now. Oh man she is one sexy lady for 35 and a great lay. I've had her twice and almost a 3rd time last night. I left before she could get unbusy. To even be near this lady makes me burn in the loins.

The best part of the night was at Queens Place. I sat with new girl Evelynn and she is as cute as a bunny and very cuddly to boot. Almost took her to the room but I left my buddah of cash at home because I am saving it for my trip to the PI. I did offer her 20 bucks to get nasty at the table but she turned down my last 20 for the evening. After all, who wants to take the risk for 20 bucks? I don't blame her, in fact, I think she was insulted. Read on.

I left Queens Place and headed home. The night was over for me. On my way I passed a friend and I didn't stop to say hi because I was driving. But the next day we spoke on the phone and before I could ask how his night went he laid it in on me and gave me a hard time. See he went to Queens and sat with Evelynn and they got aquainted and she started to complain about some guy. She described this guy and friend said, "Mugroso". Yup, I guess I am worth complaining about. But I must have done my friend some good. While we sat I had my hands all over Evelynn and she was hot and ready. So my friend took her to the room and he said she was the best lay he had in a long time. So I guess I am good for something after all.

Mugroso

Meat Loaf
08-27-07, 02:18
Then I hit fatty central (Central Lagunero.)
MugrosoI sure do miss that place! Having visited clubs throughout Latin America, Central Lagunero is still my favorite place. Don't laugh. I especially remember those days when it was two floors and they paraded 5 gorditas on stage at all times.

Fellas, do the ladies right since I can't! By the way, what's up with the fatty-spot in El Paso, Cabaret?

Old Player Man
08-28-07, 17:37
I will be in the El Paso area during the week of 4 Sep. I haven't been to Jtown in over 6 years and it sounds like lots of changes have occured. Anyway, I am looking for some recommendations for Tuesday when I get in town. I will be on foot, and most likely will stay in el centro. Thanks.

Clydesdale
08-29-07, 01:19
Have any of you bridge walkers noticed if UNO or the old Juarez Turf Club has opened? I'm not a big fan of Caliente.

UNO supposedly bought the old Turf Club and was in the process of renovating it when they "suddenly closed". I was wondering if they got their papers in order.

If anyone notices if either of these two are open over the weekend, please post it?
UNO was closed Sunday night. I don't remember where the turf club was.

Cienega32
08-30-07, 01:28
UNO was closed Sunday night. I don't remember where the turf club was.
I figured it would be but was hoping. I read they had some problems with "game machines" in the other store and heard they ran into some money problems overall. Guess it was true, being it's football time now and they're still closed.

The Turf Club was another block down Ave Juarez, IIRC, with a curved doorway front that was diagonal to the corner, if you know what I mean. But if UNO had opened it, I think you would've noticed it.

Thank you for the info, friend! I guess Caliente will get my donations this season...

Palamides
08-31-07, 01:49
Crossed the Santa Fe (Paso Del Norte) Bridge approximately 8p. M. No pedestrial line either way and the line of cars was noticeably short stretching back just over the hump of the bridge. Direct route to Pink Lady going behind the cathedral looking for the SMart sign to orient to Altamirano and look for the red arrow sign in front of Pink Lady. My friend was "busy" occupada. She came out later and sat for drinks and was friendly and affectionate while I just observed the place. Angel the bartender was nice and helpful and Yolanda was also nice and friendly. They actually let me wait without ordering a drink to see if my friend would show up, Saw a guy pay $100 us dollars for a lay, but I figure quite a bit of that was tied into the cabbies tip/finders fee/whatever. When I do goign I'm goign to try to bring my friend to the room for $50-$60 bucks but that will be stretching my bargaining skills to the max. Thought it prudent to take a cab back to the bridge around 12:30am due to two stories I've heard recently of people being robbed. Crossing the bridge was routine. I plan to go back and do my friend, just a matter of scheduling and mullah.

Cienega32
08-31-07, 19:04
Starting Sept 1st, the "common" vehicle fare to cross the river will be $2.25.

Pedestrian charge to remain unchanged at this point.

JediSpider
09-01-07, 18:13
Hey guys do you have stds? I tried arleth but I didn't have intercourse with here just a handjob, do you know if she has aids or herpes?

My Freedom
09-02-07, 01:33
I stopped by the Panama last night and was told that, unfortunately, Jessica is in Mazatlan. Her sister does work at the Panama. Have any of you mongers heard any different? I wonder how true this is?

Now if you want to drive over the downtown bridge, it will cost you $2. 25, which will also mean that Mexico will soon raise its fee, too, to keep up. That increase is ridiculous, it is a hefty 27 per cent increase. I unfortunately voted for John Cook for mayor because former mayor Wardy increased the bridge fee from $1. 25 to $1. 65. I will now use the free Codoba Bridge by car to enter Juarez, and folks, be sure to remember this when Cook and his crew come up for re-election. I certainly will.

Things like Jessica at the Panama and a still high $1. 65 bridge fee are now all but forgotten. It's called Murphy's Law.

JackRabbit69
09-02-07, 02:48
Jedi,

Didn't you say in an earlier report how you had sex with Arleth, and now you only state that you only got a handjob from her. What is it man, did you go all the way or just get a handjob? I think we have a stalker here folks.

Have lots of sex,

JackRabbit69

Cienega32
09-02-07, 07:51
Now if you want to drive over the downtown bridge, it will cost you $2. 25, which will also mean that Mexico will soon raise its fee, too, to keep up. That increase is ridiculous, it is a hefty 27 per cent increase.Yup - the three city-owned brideges, 'Santa Fe', Stanton and Zaragoza. The walk over the Santa Fe is a muddy mess leading up to the toll booth, after it rains.

Using your math, it's interesting to note that the commercial increase only went up 14% - from $3 per axle to $3.50.

Cienega32
09-02-07, 08:27
Took a sports book trip Friday - just a short in and out. For any out of towners with similar interests - sounds like the UNO sports book is closed all thru the country. Seems a small problem arose with the Federal G over payouts. The one on the other side of town from Ave Juarez was in the paper last year over their slot machine style "games of chance". They were shut down after they were told "No - they're NOT like BINGO - shut it down. Now they're all shut down for funny activities with the window payouts.

One of the writers from UNO, who speaks excellent English, works at Caliente now, which is very helpful.

The whole Mariscal block from the Plaza to the old pool hall (Rex Bolares?) across from Irma's is gone.

Centro Laguerno (?) has slimmed down some. There were even a few 'normal sized' chicas working.

Las Palmeras now serves the "XX" that I crave so much but it's still not enough to keep me there for more than 1 beer, tho' there were 1 or 2 cuties working.

Casa Colorado seems to have beefed up a bit but only a few of them. They seemed to keep the juke box stage working.

It was just a sports book run, with the inclement weather of the day sending me home after only two beers. Too damn muggy down there for me.

Bbond
09-02-07, 09:46
Hey guys do you have stds? I tried arleth but I didn't have intercourse with here just a handjob, do you know if she has aids or herpes?

That's always a chance you take, their cleanliness standards are lacking, as if it mattered, those diseases know no boundries.

Coyote79
09-02-07, 13:17
Hey guys do you have stds? I tried arleth but I didn't have intercourse with here just a handjob, do you know if she has aids or herpes?
I don’t know if she has any STDs.
But I do know, in my experience, that she and the managers at her MP (Sirena’s) are not reputable.
So my advice is to avoid her and Sirena’s.

Coyote79
09-02-07, 13:26
Hit Genesis yesterday.

Only bad experience is some crazy fucker who hangs out on Oca street, about a block north of the hospital.

He's screaming shit at me both going to Genesis & coming back.
I have no idea what he's saying or what he's mad about.

He's about 45, short with black hair, and carries some rag that he's constantly flicking.

JediSpider
09-02-07, 18:16
I don’t know if she has any STDs.

But I do know, in my experience, that she and the managers at her MP (Sirena’s) are not reputable.

So my advice is to avoid her and Sirena’s.I need help. I'm so scared. I'm 18 yrs old and I went there but only got a handjob, what are the chances! Help me please.

Palamides
09-02-07, 19:44
I don’t know if she has any STDs.

But I do know, in my experience, that she and the managers at her MP (Sirena’s) are not reputable. So my advice is to avoid her and Sirena’s.Please explain not reputable in the context of the mesaje/sex industry? The best though limited mesaje experiences I’ve had have been at Sirenas.

1. $40 bucks flat for everything,
2. No rush, no asking for tip
3. full hour,
4. actually good messages - plus bj, fuck
5. clean, comfortable, relaxing rooms with music.
6. low, wide message tables; I’ve almost fallen off the ones at Venus twice!
7. usually at least 2 cute girls to pick from among the fatties...not tons of cuties but definitely worth looking in to see whos working.

If you know of a better deal than this, please let us know!! :)

I found JediSpider's questions about STD's strange. I doubt Arleth or any sex worker would make their medical records/history known to clients. I would think it would be reasonable to assume third word sex workers may very well have some kind of STD, thats why it pays to use safe practices and wear a condom.

While JediSpider's question appears a bit naive (no offense) the statements on here I find just insane are the users that almost brag about bbbj/cim/DATY to me this is like playing Russian rulet with your life and the girls.

No offense intended to anyone’s comments, I always appreciate the detailed descriptions and try to make my posts match yours in quality. Regards ~Pal

Mugroso
09-03-07, 03:15
Please explain not reputable in the context of the mesaje/sex industry?

He refers to an incident at Sirenas. He can explain for himself or you can read back in the forum.



While JediSpider's question appears a bit naive (no offense) the statements on here I find just insane are the users that almost brag about bbbj/cim/DATY to me this is like playing Russian rulet with your life and the girls.

Absolute words of wisdom. I want to keep on banging whether it be P4P or in a relationship. As for the dieseases I think Americans are responsible for giving the STDs to the ladies more so than the other way around.

Sure a bbbj is great but when I dive into that stink hole I wrap it up.

Mugroso

PS
Isn't it great to post in a forum where you don't have to talk to yourself?

James Dean20
09-03-07, 03:45
In response to JediSpider's report, I would make an appointment with a doctor immediately if I had any concerns or worries at all. In El Paso, I have found the Texas Tech Northeast Family Practice Center on Kenworthy, to be a particularly good place to go. The doctors there are all very professional and they will make you feel at ease with no embarassment for any kind of std you may have contracted. They have seen every type of disease possible and so it will be nothing new to them. Another place you may want to consider is Planned Parenthood in El Paso which treats stds and perhaps the Eastside Medical Care Center on Lee Trevino. I am sure there are many other places to go as well. If you have any pain or discharge during urination be sure to go and if you just want peace of mind, I would go as well. Best wishes and good health. By the way, the treatment for chlamydia, the most common std, is simple: antibotics.

Cienega32
09-03-07, 06:31
PS,

Isn't it great to post in a forum where you don't have to talk to yourself?Am I sensing a connection between that last line and STDs/"people" bragging about BBing & DATY?

Coyote79
09-03-07, 13:05
Please explain not reputable in the context of the mesaje/sex industry? The best though limited mesaje experiences I’ve had have been at Sirenas.

Arleth & the rest of them at Sirenas' smile in your face as they slam a knife in your back.

As soon as the mask falls off their face you'll see what little cockroaches they are.

As Mug posted, it's all detailed in the forum.

Coyote79
09-03-07, 13:42
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070903/ap_on_go_ot/border_longer_lines

. . .
Delays on the southern border prompted an angry letter to Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff from the Border Trade Alliance, a U.S. association of border businesses, chambers of commerce, academic institutions and others.

Three of the group's leaders alleged Customs and Border Protection had adopted a policy at Chertoff's direction to "check and enter" at least 60 percent of U.S. citizens' driver's licenses. They asked him to end the practice.

Customs and Border Protection spokeswoman Maggie Myers denied Chertoff had ordered the stepped-up checks. The agency did not respond to additional questions, including whether the order came from someone else.

The U.S. plans to require all citizens to show a passport or other photo ID deemed acceptable by the Homeland Security Department when they re-enter this country beginning January 30, 2008.

The plan is similar to passport requirements in effect now at airports as part of the Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative.

The tougher inspections follow Chertoff's comment last month that he had a "gut feeling" the nation faced an increased risk of attack this summer. In May, an inspector waved a tuberculosis-infected man through the Champlain, N.Y. border station, despite a computer alert that he be stopped.

The long waits have heightened concerns that the inspections will choke off commerce
*************
BTW guys it took me four months and about a $100 to get my passport.
APPLY NOW!!

Coyote79
09-03-07, 13:50
http://travel.state.gov/passport/ppi/family/family_863.html

Section 51.70 (a) (8) of Title 22 of the Code of Federal Regulations states, in part, that if you are certified to Passport Services by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) to be in arrears of child support payments in excess of $2,500, you are ineligible to receive a U.S. passport
*************

wow, if you owe child support, it's tough to get laid.
Can't get laid by your ex-wife, can't get laid in Juarez. . .

Meat Loaf
09-03-07, 15:17
http://travel.state.gov/passport/ppi/family/family_863.html

Section 51.70 (a) (8) of Title 22 of the Code of Federal Regulations states, in part, that if you are certified to Passport Services by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) to be in arrears of child support payments in excess of $2,500, you are ineligible to receive a U.S. passport
*************

wow, if you owe child support, it's tough to get laid.
Can't get laid by your ex-wife, can't get laid in Juarez. . .The USA is ridiculous! Everything is for the benefit of females at the expense of males: child custody, child support, marriage, domestic violence allegations, etcetera. Fuck that and them, I'm gonna' keep mongering 'cause it's a lot more honest and pure. That whole family-thing for USA citizens and residents is "fools' gold. " Here's some more bullshit regarding children of USA residents born to foreign mothers in foreign lands.

http://travel.state.gov/law/info/info_608.html

JediSpider
09-03-07, 22:54
I found out I'm clean for everything thank God. I'm never going near these places again it was the only time I went for the handjob, I lied about the other one sorry. I suggest you guys don't do this anymore y risk everything like that? Its not worth it bye all.

RajTheKing
09-03-07, 23:00
Hi,

I am planning a trip to Juarez for the first time.

I have been to El Paso many times but never to Juarez.

Any info and help to a first time newbie would be appreciated.thanks.

Mugroso
09-03-07, 23:42
http://travel.state.gov/passport/ppi/family/family_863.html

Section 51.70 (a) (8) of Title 22 of the Code of Federal Regulations states, in part, that if you are certified to Passport Services by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) to be in arrears of child support payments in excess of $2,500, you are ineligible to receive a U.S. passport
*************

wow, if you owe child support, it's tough to get laid.
Can't get laid by your ex-wife, can't get laid in Juarez. . .

If a guy can't/won't support his child he doesn't need to be spending any money on pussy.

Mugroso

ILoveChicas
09-04-07, 00:22
[Quote]I stopped by the Panama last night and was told that, unfortunately, Jessica is in Mazatlan. Her sister does work at the Panama. Have any of you mongers heard any different? I wonder how true this is?[Quote]I'm assuming you're talking about the somewhat larger gal with bleach blonde hair and a very pretty face? She was there in all her glory. Nice personality I think.

She did do a "Necasito una propina" riff at the end however. I had been really explicit with her about the total before going in. The pretty face and feeling weakened by the experience left me going for the wallet for another $15. Frankly, I just didn't want a hassle going out the door.

Any suggestions on handling this are welcome as I'm sure it comes up from time to time there?

There were at least 3 other girls there who were quite good looking including one very slender girl who said she was from Durango, Mexico. Pretty tempting. Another girl who was more petite than Jessica, she described as her "friend", maybe her sister? Not bad either. Finally, there was a younger sort of petite girl sprawled on the couch. She looked out of it but had a decent pair of legs for sure.

ILoveChicas
09-04-07, 01:17
Regarding the earlier posts on the Juarez that everyone remembers vs. what's left, I'll add this to the mix.

I found the my walk through Juarez to be a mix, not all of it bad.

It was a very quiet weekend for one. I barely saw any cops or problems - something of a surprise for a holiday weekend.

For what it's worth, I had zero hassles from people the whole time I was there.

The Northern end of Mariscal near the Hollywood Club is certainly a mess with all the construction. Baghdad on a bad day on some blocks. Even early in the day there are a number of women out of all sizes and quality. I was approached by a very petite but nice looking woman in her early forties(?) for example who was wearing a flowing blue green dress. Friendly but not pushy. She was headed over to "Caliente" on Juarez Avenue. I passed on the invite but also saw a number of women in the later afternoon/early evening who were doing a lot of "by-standing" on the main avenue. There were definately a few hanging on the side streets near Cleopatra's massage joint. There are hotels that look operational on the streets East of Juarez near Cleopatra's. It looks like it could get sketchy there at the wrong time of the night but they do exist. There appear to be bigger clubs further east down the street(s) where Cleopatra's is but I didn't go there.

As you walk south on Mariscal there are still quite a few hotels or boarding houses. Again, there may be anywhere from 6 to a dozen women out at any given time during the day. This includes the young, old, beautiful and downright unhealthy looking. Another block or two west of Mariscal are possibilities but I'd be a little leery walking in them late at night. It seems less well traveled, still poor and unless you're Hispanic, I think you'd look like a victim waiting to happen.

If you go west a few blocks off of Mariscal near the Hollywood Club, in the evening you will run into a small but thriving trannie zone.

The burrito stand girls are around as well, a few blocks south of the Hollywood Club. I think the earlier post that describes most of them as drug challenged is accurate. I only saw 4-5 for the most part. There are a number of cantinas in the Mariscal area as others have mentioned. I would imagine it's hit or miss there. I walked in a number or them but it was early and generally they weren't busy. This might change later into the evening.

An earlier report mentioned an east-west "alley" a few minutes south of Avenue de Septiembre. In another post it was referred to as "behind the cathedral". This information is accurate and there's a lot going on there. The pedestrian walkway is hard to miss (just keep walking in a southerly direction on Mariscal, Avenida Juarez etc) and if you walk the length of it you'll see on the south side of the alley about 4 small arched entryways that lead to hotel rooms. Women are definately hanging out there even in the early afternoon & later. Some of the women were fairly attractive. I would guess this area caters more to the locals than the tourist zone north of there. There are tons of local markets, shops etc.. that appear geared to local shoppers.

In between these small hotels are a number of cantinas. The cantinas are interesting and I spent about an hour in one of them watching people come and go including some of the girls who were hanging out at the hotels. Inside one, there were maybe 30 women of all sizes, shapes and looks who were there making a few bucks dancing with guys, smoking, drinking etc.. Some of these are labeled "Salon de Baille", some are not. There may be as many as thirty or forty of these cantinas in the streets around the walkway and market. It looks like you could do a book on just these places but I have no idea what your luck would be in them as far as the chicas are concerned.

You should ask yourself two questions before going in any of these cantinas. Question one: Am I a *******? If you answer yes do yourself a favor and don't go in. Question two: Do I speak at least basic to intermediate level of Spanish? If you answer no to this, you are probably just wasting your time.

The reason for this is that the area seems very blue collar to me. The chances of finding someone who speaks any English is probably very small while the chances of finding someone who can and might beat your ass very large if you are acting like a drunken fool. Your language and ability to communicate friendliness would be your main ally in these places. Again, I found everyone to be friendly but these folks are more working class than not and most gringo's wouldn't do very well going up against a guy who say, unloads trucks or worked in a tough factory setting all day.

Just my opinion of course....your mileage may vary.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Meat Loaf
09-04-07, 04:32
If a guy can't/won't support his child he doesn't need to be spending any money on pussy.

MugrosoGet Real! You sound like the problem, kiss ass. Get some life experience.

Meat Loaf
09-04-07, 15:18
Regarding the earlier posts on the Juarez that everyone remembers vs. what's left, I'll add this to the mix.

The Northern end of Mariscal near the Hollywood Club is certainly a mess with all the construction. Even early in the day there are a number of women out of all sizes and quality. There were definately a few hanging on the side streets near Cleopatra's massage joint. There are hotels that look operational on the streets East of Juarez near Cleopatra's. It looks like it could get sketchy there at the wrong time of the night but they do exist.

As you walk south on Mariscal there are still quite a few hotels or boarding houses. Again, there may be anywhere from 6 to a dozen women out at any given time during the day. Another block or two west of Mariscal are possibilities but I'd be a little leery walking in them late at night. It seems less well traveled, still poor and unless you're Hispanic, I think you'd look like a victim waiting to happen.

If you go west a few blocks off of Mariscal near the Hollywood Club, in the evening you will run into a small but thriving trannie zone.

The burrito stand girls are around as well, a few blocks south of the Hollywood Club. I think the earlier post that describes most of them as drug challenged is accurate. There are a number of cantinas in the Mariscal area as others have mentioned. I would imagine it's hit or miss there.

An earlier report mentioned an east-west "alley" a few minutes south of Avenue de Septiembre. In another post it was referred to as "behind the cathedral". This information is accurate and there's a lot going on there. The pedestrian walkway is hard to miss (just keep walking in a southerly direction on Mariscal, Avenida Juarez etc) and if you walk the length of it you'll see on the south side of the alley about 4 small arched entryways that lead to hotel rooms. Women are definately hanging out there even in the early afternoon & later. Some of the women were fairly attractive. I would guess this area caters more to the locals than the tourist zone north of there. There are tons of local markets, shops etc.. that appear geared to local shoppers.

In between these small hotels are a number of cantinas. The cantinas are interesting and I spent about an hour in one of them watching people come and go including some of the girls who were hanging out at the hotels. Inside one, there were maybe 30 women of all sizes, shapes and looks who were there making a few bucks dancing with guys, smoking, drinking etc.. Some of these are labeled "Salon de Baille", some are not. There may be as many as thirty or forty of these cantinas in the streets around the walkway and market. It looks like you could do a book on just these places but I have no idea what your luck would be in them as far as the chicas are concerned.

You should ask yourself two questions before going in any of these cantinas. Question one: Am I a *******? If you answer yes do yourself a favor and don't go in. Question two: Do I speak at least basic to intermediate level of Spanish? If you answer no to this, you are probably just wasting your time.

The reason for this is that the area seems very blue collar to me. The chances of finding someone who speaks any English is probably very small while the chances of finding someone who can and might beat your ass very large if you are acting like a drunken fool. Your language and ability to communicate friendliness would be your main ally in these places. Again, I found everyone to be friendly but these folks are more working class than not and most gringo's wouldn't do very well going up against a guy who say, unloads trucks or worked in a tough factory setting all day.About time someone recognizes what I wrote earlier to be accurate. I'm glad you had a fine time. I spent years in this area, daily, and know what I scribe.
Furthermore, I speak Spanish as my second-language. Behind the Cathedral I've had problems with fights, police, and jail for being a Gringo. All of Cd. Juarez for that matter since they posses lots of jealousy due to our citizenship status.

The Salon de Bailes behind the Cathedral are great! Best value in town.
The Hotels on Ave. Juarez are great too.

Cd. Juarez is a place where a Gringo has to be ready for the police and groups of 3 or more Mexicans that want to pick-a-fight, so always be ready to throw down. Inside the jail too when they take you and let the Mexicans go unless you pay a bribe which is never recommended. Have fun fellas!

RajTheKing
09-04-07, 15:47
Hi,

I am planning to stay at the Villa Manport. How do I book a room there? Does the hotel have its own website? The hotel does not show up on expedia,orbitz and other websites?

Thanks.

I will post my trip report later.

Doubt98
09-04-07, 18:31
Get Real! You sound like the problem, kiss ass. Get some life experience.


Life experience? Like pushing my obligations off on someone else? Stiffing my own children from what I owe them. Some life, some experience.

Mugroso
09-04-07, 23:29
Get Real! You sound like the problem, kiss ass. Get some life experience.

Rather than relate an experience as to why you disagree or state your case, you chose to attack and insult me. This says a lot about you and only diminishes your credibility in my eye, though I never held you in high regard with you posting false and ancient info on the scene in Juarez. Don’t even try to one up me on the Juarez scene, I have almost 20 years experience in Mexio.


That whole family-thing for USA citizens and residents is "fools' gold

Sounds like you have some issues to deal with. I suggest counseling to help you get through it.


Besos
Mugroso

PS
Feel free to apologize at any time.

ILoveChicas
09-05-07, 00:02
Original Post by Meat Loaf:

About time someone recognizes what I wrote earlier to be accurate. I'm glad you had a fine time. I spent years in this area, daily, and know what I scribe.
Furthermore, I speak Spanish as my second-language. Behind the Cathedral I've had problems with fights, police, and jail for being a Gringo. All of Cd. Juarez for that matter since they posses lots of jealousy due to our citizenship status.

The Salon de Bailes behind the Cathedral are great! Best value in town.
The Hotels on Ave. Juarez are great too.

Cd. Juarez is a place where a Gringo has to be ready for the police and groups of 3 or more Mexicans that want to pick-a-fight, so always be ready to throw down. Inside the jail too when they take you and let the Mexicans go unless you pay a bribe which is never recommended. Have fun fellas!

--Hey Meatloaf----

Yeah, I don't mean to be over dramatic about it but it was nice to see a confirmation on my suspicions on being a gringo there.

The Cantina's and areas south are really interesting but filled with some rough spots. I suspect this is area is not explored in as great a detail as La Avenida near the border for obvious reasons.

Justsomeim
09-05-07, 00:07
PS:

Feel free to apologize at any time.I think you were being extremely harsh, especially on a member that's had more posts than I can ever imagine. I might not agree with everyone on this site (Like Jedi's last post, LMAO) but this site is all about helping a fellow hobbyist out. I am a bit of a lurker but I will contribute when I feel like when something needs to be shared.

And just for the record, I don't know Mug, never spoke to him or PM'ed him personally. Just another guy you'll never know.

Bbond
09-05-07, 02:50
Hi,

I am planning to stay at the Villa Manport. How do I book a room there? Does the hotel have its own website? The hotel does not show up on expedia,orbitz and other websites?
Thanks.
I will post my trip report later.
I stay there often, never had a problem just showing up. They seldom, if ever, will be full.

Treewalker
09-05-07, 08:07
I found out I'm clean for everything thank God. I'm never going near these places again it was the only time I went for the handjob, I lied about the other one sorry. I suggest you guys don't do this anymore y risk everything like that? Its not worth it bye all.

Your nervous as a damn nun with a vibrator. Sounds like your wife or mother caught you on the forum and your coverin your ass.

:D hehehhee.

What exactly did you expect to be dirty for from a handjob? Dirty fingernails maybe? :rolleyes:

Your in a Mexican *****house buddy of course you could catch somethin. I expect that in America dating suzy sweetpea down the street!

Go to church find a nice woman and if you come down with somethin at least you'll know it wasn't you.

:p

My Freedom
09-05-07, 10:09
Ilovechicas, I have enjoyed reading your posts. I think, though, we are talking about different Jessicas. The Jessica I have seen at the Panama is not a large girl with bleached blond hair. The one I saw there, and I'm talking about several months ago, like last winter-early spring, is a slender, dark haired gal and was the best dancer in the Panama that I saw. I believe her pictures may be posted in the Photo Gallery. I do not know her sister, but I also do not stay in this area after 10 P. M. Too many things can happen, mainly policia problems.

I have always wanted to check out the area around the Cathedral, I believe a key street is La Paz, right? My basic fear is that I am a Gringo, but do understand Spanish well enough to have traveled alone in South America with no problems. Again, policia would be my key worry, not to mention the blue collar trade that one would likely have to deal with. Perhaps best to go with a buddy, but, I do know a Gringo loner who has gone into the area and he has gotten along OK. I think he walks fast as well.

Meat Loaf
09-05-07, 17:22
Yeah, I don't mean to be over dramatic about it but it was nice to see a confirmation on my suspicions on being a gringo there.

The Cantina's and areas south are really interesting but filled with some rough spots. I suspect this is area is not explored in as great a detail as La Avenida near the border for obvious reasons."I Love Chicas," I only speak what I've learned and endured. La Avenida is the exact same thing as behind the Cathedral with one difference- you're in Cd. Juarez and not the tourist area. I've had problems in both areas.

If you show that you're not scared to experience Cd. Juarez beyond "the strip," you'll receive the same response as you do on the strip. Cd. Juarez mentality is to chase you back across the bridge after (1) violence, (2) financial gain or extortion, or (3) jealousy. Spending time on "the strip" subtly shows that one is scared to enter the city beyond that 6 block area. The deeper you go into Cd. Juarez the more glory, fame, fun, excitement, and overall curiosity you will receive. You'll meet a lot of diverse people who will take you under their wing. Cd. Juarez residents don't frequent the strip, only USA tourists. Get the real Cd. Juarez experience!

When people see that you're able to "get on their level" and live like they do and relate to their experiences nobody will challenge you 'cause you've put in time and held it down, without a support system.

Explore Cd. Juarez beyond the 6 blocks and you'll find more of what you're looking for "I Love Chicas."

Meat Loaf
09-05-07, 17:39
Rather than relate an experience as to why you disagree or state your case, you chose to attack and insult me. This says a lot about you and only diminishes your credibility in my eye, though I never held you in high regard with you posting false and ancient info on the scene in Juarez. Don’t even try to one up me on the Juarez scene, I have almost 20 years experience in Mexio.

Sounds like you have some issues to deal with. I suggest counseling to help you get through it.

Besos,
Mugroso

PS: Feel free to apologize at any time.I may have taken your statement to harshly, but that was my interpretation of the prose. I did question my tone as to the insult, but had submitted my post. No offense. This area of law is my profession for 15 years and I dislike gender-based prejudice which I took your statement to be.

"20 Years and Outdated Information: " I've grown beyond that bullshit market of Cd. Jaurez, but know El Pasoans very-well in their relationship (mongering and bing-drinking) with Cd. Juarez. One may change the name of a cantina, but the game has not changed. Many writers of posts find pride in specific location names, but not the mentality that drives such activity. I knew you were a hater when you tried to claim Cd. Juarez has changed that much in 1-year. Get Real. I know more about Cd. Juarez than you; I get more *****s than you; I pay less than you; and I can outperform you. "Stop Hatin' and stick to your 6 block area of the 5 "USA-type" strip clubs. I'll always get more acclaim than you in Cd. Juarez or any other city for that matter.

I'm not hear to steal your self-appointed glory or expert status, but where is your "Guide to Cd. Juarez? " Where are your photos? Where's your real-information?

But I do apologize for my insult and aggression regarding the passport post and please accept this post as my final response to the Passport-related post. Take Care.

Meat Loaf
09-05-07, 17:42
Life experience? Like pushing my obligations off on someone else? Stiffing my own children from what I owe them. Some life, some experience.This isn't the Forum for legal debate in the area of Family Law, thus I will not respond nor discuss this topic further unless you really want to know.

Meat Loaf
09-05-07, 18:14
[Quote

She did do a "Necasito una propina" riff at the end however. I had been really explicit with her about the total before going in. The pretty face and feeling weakened by the experience left me going for the wallet for another $15. Frankly, I just didn't want a hassle going out the door.

Any suggestions on handling this are welcome as I'm sure it comes up from time to time there?Despite others that tout paying "propinas," I never recommend this M.O.

Strategy: (1) Big Spender, aka "Trick:" (2) Friend, aka "Life Conversation:"
(3) Codo, aka "Cheap-skate."

Strategy #1 is a failure from the onset. Prostitutes sell sex. Attempting to impress or "win-over" a prostitute with "Big Spending" money gains you temporary access, until the next "Big Spender" arrives. Hence, when you run-out, she runs away. You can never gain loyalty from dollars alone. Dollars will simply gain you attention.

Strategy #2 is the best. Spend time talking with the *****; befriending the *****; gaining her confidence, trust, and companionship. Let her know that you're not there to be her bank so if she needs to make some money from a "trick" then go make it and come back. Prostitutes want real men, not "tricks." "Tricks" get zero respect without the friendship component. Give her a tip for spending time with you when you don't penetrate her: Don't always try to fuck her. Work the mind instead. After time with her she'll begin to tell you how she wants to work for you as her sex-employee, exclusively.

Strategy #3 is always required. You're not the "Trick." That's someone else's role. You pay the bear-minimum and nothing more. Truth be told: Prostitutes and strippers don't make any money unless they are super-greedy; and those *****s you don't want anyway!

I hope this helps "I Love Chicas." Written from decades of experience.

ILoveChicas
09-06-07, 01:08
Ilovechicas, I have enjoyed reading your posts. I think, though, we are talking about different Jessicas. The Jessica I have seen at the Panama is not a large girl with bleached blond hair. The one I saw there, and I'm talking about several months ago, like last winter-early spring, is a slender, dark haired gal and was the best dancer in the Panama that I saw. I believe her pictures may be posted in the Photo Gallery. I do not know her sister, but I also do not stay in this area after 10 P. M. Too many things can happen, mainly policia problems.

I have always wanted to check out the area around the Cathedral, I believe a key street is La Paz, right? My basic fear is that I am a Gringo, but do understand Spanish well enough to have traveled alone in South America with no problems. Again, policia would be my key worry, not to mention the blue collar trade that one would likely have to deal with. Perhaps best to go with a buddy, but, I do know a Gringo loner who has gone into the area and he has gotten along OK. I think he walks fast as well.--------------------------

Hey My Freedom,

Ah, it sounds like we are talking about a different Jessica then. I didn't see any problems near Panama but you always have to consider the possibility.

Yes the key street is La Paz - I had forgotten it but you are quite correct. It obviously changes from time to time but for what it's worth, there seemed to be almost no cops around.

ILoveChicas
09-06-07, 01:15
"I Love Chicas," I only speak what I've learned and endured. La Avenida is the exact same thing as behind the Cathedral with one difference- you're in Cd. Juarez and not the tourist area. I've had problems in both areas.

If you show that you're not scared to experience Cd. Juarez beyond "the strip," you'll receive the same response as you do on the strip. Cd. Juarez mentality is to chase you back across the bridge after (1) violence, (2) financial gain or extortion, or (3) jealousy. Spending time on "the strip" subtly shows that one is scared to enter the city beyond that 6 block area. The deeper you go into Cd. Juarez the more glory, fame, fun, excitement, and overall curiosity you will receive. You'll meet a lot of diverse people who will take you under their wing. Cd. Juarez residents don't frequent the strip, only USA tourists. Get the real Cd. Juarez experience!

When people see that you're able to "get on their level" and live like they do and relate to their experiences nobody will challenge you 'cause you've put in time and held it down, without a support system.

Explore Cd. Juarez beyond the 6 blocks and you'll find more of what you're looking for "I Love Chicas."Thanks for the feedback. I have found that the further off the beaten track and the more time I spend with folks, the more interesting it has become. I have found this to be true in other countries I have traveled in as well.

There is risk, but there is risk everywhere including within our own country right? For what it's worth, I think the exploring is compelling enough to go for it even when taking risks into account.

Cienega32
09-06-07, 10:24
yes the key street is la paz - i had forgotten it but you are quite correct. it obviously changes from time to time but for what it's worth, there seemed to be almost no cops around.

have they finished repaving/bricking the bigger streets in that area? last time i was back there was when they had about 2 or 3 blocks half done and a couple more trenched and ready. didn't seem to slow any locals down any - they would just drive over or down that 10" drop like it was normal.

i almost got "lost" the last time. i usually used a few of the street vendor booths for landmarks and with them run out, it was different. i used to enjoy wandering thru there.

that last time it seemed like policia was on every corner leading to the area - but like i said, they were still a little fresh from running out the vendors and trying to fill the reforma.

myself, i enjoyed it better when they had all the vendors. friendly people, music everywhere - it was fun. i shot a couple hours of video, walking around there once. tons of smiles and waves from people. except the door chicas - they rep001tered like cucurachas.

Cienega32
09-06-07, 12:15
One may change the name of a cantina, but the game has not changed. Many writers of posts find pride in specific location names, but not the mentality that drives such activity. I knew you were a hater when you tried to claim Cd. Juarez has changed that much in 1-year. Get Real.Not to p!ss on anyone's BBQ but I think you may be misdirecting this aspect of your post, as it was I who detailed some of the changes over the last year. Mugroso (and Bbond) merely echoed my statement that it has changed greatly in the last year or less.

My mentions were mainly on Mariscal being turned to rubble and the La Paz street vendors being removed by the city.

Half of what your "Mariscal tour" details is rubble. The two pics I attached show this. One, I'm sure you'll recogonize to be Irma's and the other pile of rubble that is flanked by Cuco's Snacks and Club Delicias (whose rafters show thru what's left of that side) used to be Dia y Noche. Delicias might be gone by now as well - I didn't notice and don't seem to remember seeing it last week but I wasn't looking for it.

The hotel that you mention to be across the street from that would be the Hotel Mariscal. That, too, is rubble. In fact that whole side of the street is gone - from the Plaza to the Burrito Alley corner where the pool hall across from Irma's was. Many buildings in El Centro from Fran. Villa over to Degollado are being razed.

It might be a typo but Club Panama isn't on Mariscal but on Degollado (one main block west).

The hotels on Ave Juarez - what I'm determining to be "hotel see" which was across the street from two others, I believe was closed. Was it the one right next to Valentino's restaurant? If it is, and those are the three you mention, again - I don't recall a gaggle of hookers in front of them on any visit in the last 5 years. I've picked up non-pros (as in no charge) at the juice stand a door or two north, tho'.

If you check back thru the posts or check the local papers, you'll find much info on the "beautification plan" for El Centro and even some mentions of legalized gaming and casinos.

Meat Loaf
09-06-07, 14:21
Not to p!ss on anyone's BBQ but I think you may be misdirecting this aspect of your post, as it was I who detailed some of the changes over the last year. Mugroso (and Bbond) merely echoed my statement that it has changed greatly in the last year or less.I stand corrected Cienega. Mariscal has changed dramatically in 1-year. Nonetheless, I glad "I Love Chicas" found some usefulness in my "Behind the Cathedral," "Ladies Bars of Cd. Juarez," and Massage Parlors.

Thanks for the clarification Cienega 32 as you have presented solid evidence via your pictures. What are they going to do to the famous Mariscal area?

My statement about Mugroso's proof still stands!

ILoveChicas
09-07-07, 00:13
have they finished repaving/bricking the bigger streets in that area? last time i was back there was when they had about 2 or 3 blocks half done and a couple more trenched and ready. didn't seem to slow any locals down any - they would just drive over or down that 10" drop like it was normal.

i almost got "lost" the last time. i usually used a few of the street vendor booths for landmarks and with them run out, it was different. i used to enjoy wandering thru there.

that last time it seemed like policia was on every corner leading to the area - but like i said, they were still a little fresh from running out the vendors and trying to fill the reforma.

myself, i enjoyed it better when they had all the vendors. friendly people, music everywhere - it was fun. i shot a couple hours of video, walking around there once. tons of smiles and waves from people. except the door chicas - they rep001tered like cucurachas.hey cienega,

as best i can recall it's a mix - there are still the big "steps" down la paz but they're paved steps. crazy thought about driving a vehicle down any of those though. it sounds like it's a bit more finished as well. i don't recall tons of current construction. the vendors you mention must be gone as everything seemed to be back into shop stalls, stands or small stores - not on the sidewalk type thing. so, it may have lost some of the charm of your trips through there. i don't think i saw a single cop for what it's worth.

it sounds also, from your post, that in mariscal's days gone by, there were some serious blocks with quite a range of entertainment. i'm not familiar with the old layout but can imagine from the remaining rubble how much was there. one example, as you mention is the block across from the burrito stands. i think that was all rubble as best i can remember.

Cienega32
09-07-07, 06:24
I stand corrected Cienega. Mariscal has changed dramatically in 1-year. Nonetheless, I glad "I Love Chicas" found some usefulness in my "Behind the Cathedral," "Ladies Bars of Cd. Juarez," and Massage Parlors.

Thanks for the clarification Cienega 32 as you have presented solid evidence via your pictures. What are they going to do to the famous Mariscal area?

No doubt 'Ilovechicas' found good times in your post. After reading his adventure, I think I'll re-wander the La Paz area again on my next walk over

As far as I recall, the image presented was walking parks, parking lots, type of stuff. I somehow think I read that they're using the excuse of needing more areas for parking for bullthe bullfights as well. They're back on Franco Villa since the other ring is gone..

And, like I said, there's some rumbles about casinos. I haven't followed it any deeper than trying to keep up with the demo (for my before/after photos).

Cienega32
09-07-07, 06:54
Hey Cienega,

As best I can recall it's a mix - there are still the big "steps" down La Paz but they're paved steps. Crazy thought about driving a vehicle down any of those though. It sounds like it's a bit more finished as well. I don't recall tons of current construction. The vendors you mention must be gone as everything seemed to be back into shop stalls, stands or small stores - not on the sidewalk type thing. So, it may have lost some of the charm of your trips through there. I don't think I saw a single cop for what it's worth.
These 'steps' were where they were excavating for new pavements to meet existing ones. And it was pretty insane watching some of the smaller cars trying to scale them.

It was a fun street market (some really good deals and snacks too) with all the stands set up between the existing, "real" store-fronts on either side of the streets. It almost had a canopy feel to it all - like an open-air farmer's market, in most parts and my only landmarks were certain vendor stands. I was sad to learn that they were all run off by the badges, as I felt it had a nice 'old world' charm to it all.

IIRC, they didn't all go qiuetly.

The guys in this forum are full of good info and there are some great tales from them in the archives as well. Many of those tales from these guys were a major catalyst for my moving out here to NM 2 years ago. Of course, reducing the drive from 720 miles to 50 miles was another...

Cienega32
09-07-07, 06:57
I stay there often, never had a problem just showing up. They seldom, if ever, will be full.
Has there been any significant changes since 'we' lost Efrain?

Bbond
09-07-07, 10:32
Has there been any significant changes since 'we' lost Efrain?

Not really, pretty much the same. Just no Efrain.

RajTheKing
09-07-07, 15:32
Hi,

This will be my first trip to Juarez. I tried searching all posts on this board bit could not find all the info in one place. I need some basic info, so please help.

1. Which hotel is better-Manport or Villa manport? Which is closer to all the massage parlours? Where do I make a reservation? Do the hotels have any website? Can I take a cab or can I walk to them?

2. The main massage parlours are.LUXXOR, SIRENAS, GENESIS. Where can I get all their addresses? Which is the closest to the hotels or to the border? And what do I tell the cab drivers if I want to go these places to avoid being ripped off?

3. LUXXOR owners say they will pick you up at the border if you call them in advance. How reliable is this? They said they will also help with hotel accomodations? Should you go with this?

4. The main strip clubs are- PINK LADY, CEASAR'S PLACE. Are there any other worth visiting strip clubs or massage parlours?

5. Is it easy using bus services in Juarez? What is the Elpaso bus trolley service. It starts off in elpaso every one hour. Is it a good way to reach Juarez?

6. If there any trip reports with info, please post it. I tried looking under reports of distinction under Juarez, but it is not as comprehensive as that of other mexican cities like Nogales.

Thanks for the help. I will post a detailed trip report after I come back.

Coyote79
09-07-07, 19:56
I can partially answer some of your questions.


Hi,

This will be my first trip to Juarez. I tried searching all posts on this board bit could not find all the info in one place. I need some basic info, so please help.

1. Which hotel is better-Manport or Villa manport? Which is closer to all the massage parlours? Where do I make a reservation? Do the hotels have any website? Can I take a cab or can I walk to them?

Villa Manport doesn't need a reservation. It's about a 40 minute walk from either bridge.



2. The main massage parlours are.LUXXOR, SIRENAS, GENESIS. Where can I get all their addresses? Which is the closest to the hotels or to the border? And what do I tell the cab drivers if I want to go these places to avoid being ripped off?

If I was from out-of-town I'd stay at the Holiday Inn in downtown El Paso. . .cabs cost too much crossing the border--walk accross, then tell the Juarez cabbie to go to a stop near the MP. Sirenas is near Villa Manport, and Genesis is near Hospital General.

I don't know of any MP address listing. You can try Mug's site, Ladies of Juarez, or search the forum for cross streets.

Myself I bought a Mapsoco Street Guide to Juarez at Walgreens.


3. LUXXOR owners say they will pick you up at the border if you call them in advance. How reliable is this? They said they will also help with hotel accomodations? Should you go with this?

4. The main strip clubs are- PINK LADY, CEASAR'S PLACE. Are there any other worth visiting strip clubs or massage parlours?

5. Is it easy using bus services in Juarez? What is the Elpaso bus trolley service. It starts off in elpaso every one hour. Is it a good way to reach Juarez?

I don't use the bus service in Juarez. They don't even have a schedule. But other mongers love it. The "trolley" is slow and doesn't run very often.



6. If there any trip reports with info, please post it. I tried looking under reports of distinction under Juarez, but it is not as comprehensive as that of other mexican cities like Nogales.

Thanks for the help. I will post a detailed trip report after I come back.

Cienega32
09-07-07, 21:02
5. Is it easy using bus services in Juarez? What is the Elpaso bus trolley service. It starts off in elpaso every one hour. Is it a good way to reach Juarez?
I took the trolley thru Juarez once. Bear in mind that they give you a wrist band when you board. To me that would imply that the head count is important at the end of the day. While you can get off one and on another hours later, I don't know how not coming back by the last run would play out. It's an interesting run, from a tourist perspective, but it can also put you in the general area of some things. Like Coyote79 said - it can be a slow trek.

It took me awhile before I tried the bus system but after reading here how painless it was, I gave it a shot. It is painless and pretty cool, if you want a taste of the city and its people.

The one that I've taken to Villa Manport on Escobar is 'Ruta Circunvalacion'. You can ask to be let out anywhere so no worries if you see the hotel pass by. Sirena's, El Encanto and another one that I forget are in the area as wel as a great steak house. 8 blocks or so down Escobar are more things.

This is a good map/reference link:

http://www.wikimapia.org/#lat=31.74388&lon=-106.460674&z=17&l=0&m=a&v=2

RajTheKing
09-07-07, 21:59
Hi,

I am planning at one of these hotels- villa manport / hotel impala /manport.
Which is the best choice? I heard Villa Manport is not maintined properly nowadays. I have seen no reviews of Hotel Impala.

Also where are Pink Lady and Ceasar' place -close to what cross streets?

Thanx.

My Freedom
09-08-07, 07:06
I have no idea how true this is, but, one of my co-workers said that he visited a post office the other day and was told that unofficially, this requirement for a passport by Jan. 30, 2008, to cross back into the U.S. from Mexico has been moved up to September, 2008. Again, amigos, I cannot verify this, but this co-worker of mine is normally pretty reliable. We'll see.

Cienega32
09-08-07, 09:40
I stand corrected Cienega. Mariscal has changed dramatically in 1-year. Nonetheless, I glad "I Love Chicas" found some usefulness in my "Behind the Cathedral," "Ladies Bars of Cd. Juarez," and Massage Parlors.

Thanks for the clarification Cienega 32 as you have presented solid evidence via your pictures. What are they going to do to the famous Mariscal area?


Well, I don't have a problem pointing out when someone is wrong and I also don't have a problem coming back and stating that I'm wrong either...

I decided to take the long way around - down Ave Juarez to Septembre - for the first time in many months. Valentino's is gone/closed/changed hands and the hotel next door to it is open again. First time I've seen 3 or 4 chicas in that doorway in a few years. Same with another one a block or so north - might be the one you mentioned with the long stairway - a couple of chicas, these obviously working, in the doorway.

It must be like the tides on that block but, at any rate, I stand corrected, at this time, on Ave Juarez, as far as finding some door-chicas there. Not a gaggle of them but a few. 2 here, 3 there, etc.

However, even with the return of that scenerio (or at least me noticing it), those Mariscal bars still haven't been rebuilt...
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Between Los Palmeras and Ano Nuevo I decided that I am very, very tired of watching large, fat broads dancing. It used to be fun - it used to be funny but now it's getting to be way too much to handle anymore. Naked women dancing on a stage should not have bigger beer-bellies than me.

Meat Loaf
09-08-07, 12:49
Between Los Palmeras and Ano Nuevo I decided that I am very, very tired of watching large, fat broads dancing. It used to be fun - it used to be funny but now it's getting to be way too much to handle anymore. Naked women dancing on a stage should not have bigger beer-bellies than me.Agreed. Chubby-chasin' is fun 'cause they're soft and usually have good BJ skills, but once you get into the bed all the work is on you. Trying to move all that weight around; forget about flexibility. It's more of you asking "can yuo roll over," "can you get doggystyle." I mean, if I wanted to lift weights I'd go to the two gyms on Mariscal, but they're probably torn down too.

Bbond
09-08-07, 15:59
Hi,
I am planning at one of these hotels- villa manport / hotel impala /manport.
Which is the best choice? I heard Villa Manport is not maintined properly nowadays. I have seen no reviews of Hotel Impala.
Also where are Pink Lady and Ceasar' place -close to what cross streets?
Thanx.

I have stayed in the Manport, Altamiriano and 16 de Septembre, and Villa Manport, Hermanos Escobar and Calle Panama. Both are pretty basic, no frills type places.

Pink Lady is south of the Manport on Altamiriano, a few blocks past the S-Mart grocery store.

Clydesdale
09-08-07, 16:04
Hi,

I am planning at one of these hotels- villa manport / hotel impala /manport.
Which is the best choice? I heard Villa Manport is not maintined properly nowadays. I have seen no reviews of Hotel Impala.

Also where are Pink Lady and Ceasar' place -close to what cross streets?

Thanx.
Hotel Impala has small but nice rooms and secure parking. I like it better than the Manport even though it isn't right next to the MPs.

Cesar's is on Bolivia near Mejia. Best to go north on Bolivia from 16 de Septiembre - it's a one way street.

Gntlman Mongr
09-09-07, 01:13
I went down to Juarez last weekend “Labor Day” after reading by Palamides and Meat Loaf about a bar on Avenidas Americas called Tumbalo. On Fri. night I ran into RearWindow at the Casa Colorado and told him about it and that I was going to check it out Sat. night.

As we ran around a little bit together. I remembered this was the traditional weekend for the returning students from UTEP and NM State to visit Juarez and get shit faced. I have seen some interesting things in years past but as we wandered around we noticed it was pretty tame so we left.

Sat. night I hooked up with RearWindow and a friend of his, at the Pink Lady. They had ladies they were spending time with but I did not see anything to my liking. I think that we decided to cruse some of the other bars and his friend took off but we returned to the Pink Lady. I asked about visiting Tumbalo but the guys weren't really keen on it but it was sill early. I still did not see anything to my liking except one little thing that was occupied. RearWindow said no she wasn't and went over and invited her over for me. She was gorgeous I think she said her name was Marlene. I told her about a Salsa Bar over on Avenidas America she told me it was her favorite bar. So I asked her if she knew how to salsa and she said she did so I said my good buys paid the bar fine and we were off to Tumbalo. It was great we danced our asses off. It is a great place. Afterwards we went to the Fiesta Hotel a few blocks away for the night. She screwed my brains out ordered room service at three in the morning and then screwed my brains out again. I was walking very funny the next day and it wasn't just from all the dancing. She gave me her name and phone # so we can go straight to the dancing in the future without paying the bar fine.

Thanks, Palamides and Meat Loaf for the heads up.

Gntlman Mongr

Bbond
09-09-07, 04:24
I have no idea how true this is, but, one of my co-workers said that he visited a post office the other day and was told that unofficially, this requirement for a passport by Jan. 30, 2008, to cross back into the U.S. from Mexico has been moved up to September, 2008. Again, amigos, I cannot verify this, but this co-worker of mine is normally pretty reliable. We'll see.

They pushed back the dates on entering by air too, but you must have proof you applied a passport. So maybe this will happen to for entering by land.
US Government, who knows for sure what they will come up with due to the sever backlog with passport applications.

Meat Loaf
09-09-07, 06:58
I went down to Juarez last weekend “Labor Day” after reading by Palamides and Meat Loaf about a bar on Avenidas Americas called Tumbalo. Thanks, Palamides and Meat Loaf for the heads up.

Gntlman MongrI'm glad someone could use my advise and experiences. Being from the North and playing hockey as a youth, I always appreciate an afternoon ice skating session inside Plaza Las Americas. It's a cool place to take a girl.

I don't know if "Hooligans" is still open, (Location: La Curva para el aeropuerto, a lado AppleBees.) They use to always show this place on Televisa as people are getting their party on. Good location for "Yuppie Mexicans. " It's not far, just down the street from the Pronaf. Additionally, Plaza Juarez is great for picking-up women too. It's further down the street from "Hooligans" and can be reached by bus for 5 pesos or US$ 0. 25 (Linea Aeropuerto.) If you want a Juarez Meat Market, check out "Rodeo" immediately across from the "Free Bridge" and way before Tumbao.

Once again, I'm glad you enjoyed that location.

Cienega32
09-09-07, 07:45
agreed. chubby-chasin' is fun 'cause they're soft and usually have good bj skills, but once you get into the bed all the work is on you. trying to move all that weight around; forget about flexibility. it's more of you asking "can yuo roll over," "can you get doggystyle." i mean, if i wanted to lift weights i'd go to the two gyms on mariscal, but they're probably torn down too.
actually, i think i remember something about the big gym being a center point of sorts in the "master plan".

i don't mind a bit of the 'well-rounded' chubbies/"big girls" from time to time but to watch these ones dancing where rolls are draped over rolls and the backview looks like moonscape with all the cheese... it gets pretty hard on the eyes.

i think next week i'm checking out those joints on the other side of town you guys have been talking about. el centro is starting to give me headaches every time i go there. too much rap music for me.

damnedest thing - when i walked past that la tuna bar, i would've sworn i heard y-m-c-a blaring from inside. struck me as an odd contrast to the name...

Cienega32
09-09-07, 07:46
They pushed back the dates on entering by air too, but you must have proof you applied a passport. So maybe this will happen to for entering by land.
US Government, who knows for sure what they will come up with due to the sever backlog with passport applications.
There also was something on the news about how they 'solved' the backlog problem and things should move smoother now.

Victor Lazlo
09-09-07, 08:05
I have found that the further off the beaten track and the more time I spend with folks, the more interesting it has become. I have found this to be true in other countries I have traveled in as well.

There is risk, but there is risk everywhere including within our own country right? For what it's worth, I think the exploring is compelling enough to go for it even when taking risks into account.You got it right, Dude.

Meat Loaf
09-09-07, 15:23
i don't mind a bit of the 'well-rounded' chubbies/"big girls" from time to time but to watch these ones dancing where rolls are draped over rolls and the backview looks like moonscape with all the cheese... it gets pretty hard on the eyes.

i think next week i'm checking out those joints on the other side of town you guys have been talking about. el centro is starting to give me headaches every time i go there. too much rap music for me.

damnedest thing - when i walked past that la tuna bar, i would've sworn i heard y-m-c-a blaring from inside. struck me as an odd contrast to the name...wow, cienega32 you have a lot of posts! well what's good news is the the "big girls" don't try to climb the pole; they just walk back and forth to cumbias.

i loved el centro, but after a while it got tired to me too and those "wanksters" and their rap music wore me out too.

that is a strange name for such music. i can't think of anything to elaborate more upon regarding this. hahaha. but you know, i'm in nicaragua, central america, and all their music is from the 1980s (bon jovi, aerosmith, gnr, michael jackson, brian adams, etcetera.) hell, i never listened to that shit when i was growing-up.

keep holdin' down cienega32

Meat Loaf
09-09-07, 16:46
*** This is written especially for "I Love Chicas" ***

Years of experience in Latin America made me not amazed at the events of yesterday. It’s just another day in the life of a Gringo when we choose to close the bank.

My landlord, 2 lesbians (tortilleras, ) were informed of my last-month tenancy in their Managua, Nicaragua, casita (house, ) and took it like champs, until I inquired about my one-month security deposit. Lesbian #1 told me that security deposits are returnable after 3 months to ensure no damage was done to the property. Immediately I knew she must of thought I was some Gringo-fool she was gonna’ rob. She created some story and tried to justify this nonsense only to be told by me that "Homey Don’t Play That. " I called her very "unprofessional" and "crazy" for trying to promote such a policy. She defended her earlier claim about our rental agreement informing me that it said 3-months. She departed shortly after and I assumed we’d continue this banter over the next 4 weeks.

Within minutes the "man" of the relationship, Lesbian #2, runs over to my door banging extremely hard. Oh’ Drama. I open the door and she barges in shouting 95% in Spanish to leave, 5% in English "Get the Fuck Out. " They always know that phrase in Latin America. I speak Spanish as my second-language and hold a MBA earned 100% in Spanish, so they need to really did into their bag-of-tricks. Then she attempted to try and pack my possessions. I telephoned the police who maintain their station 2 blocks in-front of the house knowing they would never show-up. (Police don’t exist in Nicaragua due to a lack of funding.) After about 10-minutes of Lesbian #2’s dramatic performance things calmed down. As I told Lesbian #1, 3-months is unacceptable. They attempted to use that famous-angle of me being the Gringo don’t know their law, but USA law. I read their real estate law along with other legal codes 1-year ago and it’s actually more favorable to the tenant than the landlord. Nonetheless, I let them try and shovel that "malarkey. "

It turned out Lesbian #2 attempted to justify her "macho" because I called Lesbian #1: Loca (crazy.) After such a performance wouldn’t you agree? Instead, both may be considered Locas (crazies.) Again, I knew better as to this claim. Besides if this was the case Lesbian #1 should have informed me of her dislike immediately upon me calling her loca, not through some third-party, her "hench-woman. " But that was just another smoke screen ‘cause my concern is the security deposit which they attempted to promote via this 3-month idea. Furthermore, Lesbian #2 told me she could hold it as long as she wanted, 3-months, 6-months, 1-year. "You Gringo are at the total mercy of us and we can do what we want in our country" was said and in that tone. Again, I have years in Latin America and know the mentality of "Gringo Envy. "

In summation, I refused to pay rent as they can use my security deposit as my last-month’s rent. I called my lawyer who only costs about $50. I changed the locks so they cannot enter. They’re threatening to have the police evict me, but they’ll never show-up except to accept a Gringo bribe and they have no authority anyway. The law is on my side although the country is on for theirs. Understand I’m a Gringo and therefore my purpose is to give their fellow country-person money and to accept whatever they promote in every circumstance is the mentality of "Gringo Envy. "

When abroad, the world loves we Gringos for our (1) access to capital, (2) way of life, (3) and for being their "real-life" link to Americana. Nonetheless, the world has what appears to be, an embedded cultural trait which is "Gringo-Envy: " Hate the Gringo because we have what they dream about, but can't access. Build-up your own mis-managed country is always my suggestion.

There is this common misnomer that Gringos "can" afford everything, "it’s poco dinero, " and will pay whatever we have to because of (1) fear, (2) unfamiliarity of local law and language, or (3) our to avoid episodes earlier mentioned. "Homey Don’t Play That! " Police bribes, security deposits, "padded bills, " or whatever else requires me earning money to give to you (them) for your (their) personal desire is not permitted! We all have dreams and responsibilities and I’m not going to work everyday to pave their pathway for financial access upon their insistence.

We gringos rule the world; they know it; envy our status; desire to exploit our financial resources; yet despise our presence once their access to capital is denied or withdrawn. I’m curious what have been the experiences of other Gringos abroad in Latin America when the "bank" was withdrawn or the "dream of marriage" (I. E. USA citizenship) was revoked? I know it was the exact same. Despite this experience I still find much enjoyment residing in Latin America and will continue.

Important Fact for Renters: Most Latin American countries have the legal code where landlord eviction is difficult and time consuming. As in many USA states where it takes 6 weeks to legally evict via the court, in Latin America it may take years- "squatters rights. " Thus, don’t be intimidated on being evicted or the police arriving. Instead, be weary of their potential extortionist tactics. Obviously Spanish-speaking skills will be required as they will immediately begin "fast talking, " "yelling, " conversing with fellow-countrymen in an anti-Gringo manner, and deliver daily harassment until you leave the premises. Your other option is be financially looted at their desire.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

J Europe
09-10-07, 05:18
I went over to J-Town on Thur about 5pm heading over to Genesis, so I caught a cab over to Hositpal General and it was quite funny the cab driver (cost $5)(who really really needed a shower) kept giving me tips about how to have sex with the chicas even thru I told him that I was just going to visit a sick friend. Well I go in to the hositpal and come right back out and he is still sitting out front! After about ten minutes he moves on and I across the street to and walk the couple of blocks to Genesis.

Oh Boy Genesis sit's smack dab in the middle of a residental neighborhood and don't do what I did and walk upto the front of the place and to find that the day was locked and the lady is telling me to go around to the back and I thought that she was saying we are closed come back to tomorrow!

I must say that I was disappointed with Genesis as it was only heavyweights (1 whom I had session with before at Cleopatra's) there in the evening shift, however I did session with a chia named Daphne who I am pretty damn sure had I bun in the oven! I have a no idea how I missed that when the 4 chica did their little line up.

Daphne was just so so and I did not get the nut off.

Left there and went to the place that is on H. Esobar that is in the green building (the name excaspe me at the moment) 5 girls there 3 very very doable however I was just not quite ready yet so I went down stairs to the bar to have a drink and boy was it Crazy in there! As I was the only guy in the place for a while the ladys were very very wild. Of course when the happend to mention that there was a masje place upstairs I played dumb as rocks. By this time it is about 7pm so I walk on up to Sirena's and I did not even go in, parking lot jammed packed and both side streets are 6 or 7 cars deep.

Caught cab back to Safari (cost $5 US) which is bar only a few blocks from the Ave de Juaurz and the bridge had a few drinks there left and step into Clepopatra's only 2 chicas 1 very tall about 6 I would say nice looking however at that point it was a like 8:45pm and to close to quitting time for me to get a good session in IMHO.

Part II of my little trip report coming up!

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

ILoveChicas
09-10-07, 05:58
You got it right, Dude.Glad you enjoyed the post.

Bbond
09-11-07, 07:54
Left there and went to the place that is on H. Esobar that is in the green building (the name excaspe me at the moment) 5 girls there 3 very very doable however I was just not quite ready yet so I went down stairs to the bar to have a drink and boy was it Crazy in there! As I was the only guy in the place for a while the ladys were very very wild. Of course when the happend to mention that there was a masje place upstairs I played dumb as rocks. By this time it is about 7pm so I walk on up to Sirena's and I did not even go in, parking lot jammed packed and both side streets are 6 or 7 cars deep.


Sounds like El Encanto, and the bar Papaguyos.

Sirena's usually has a lot of cars around, they share a parking lot with a sports injury clinic. Although it may look extremely busy, that is usually not the case inside.

Boyscout410
09-18-07, 18:28
I am planning a trip down to Juarez next week, and will probably hit Luxor. Does anyone know who this girl is? She looks like my type. Any comments on her services would be appreciated as well.

Thanks

Mugroso
09-20-07, 05:14
I know more about Cd. Juarez than you; I get more *****s than you; I pay less than you; and I can outperform you. "Stop Hatin' and stick to your 6 block area of the 5 "USA-type" strip clubs. I'll always get more acclaim than you in Cd. Juarez or any other city for that matter.

I'm not hear to steal your self-appointed glory or expert status, but where is your "Guide to Cd. Juarez? " Where are your photos? Where's your real-information?

You forgot to mention that your pecker is bigger than mine.

I have ventured out of the downtown area. Self appointed glory? When did I ever say that?

I always value reports from new posters as it gives me a fresh look at Juarez the way I used to see it when I was learning the ropes. The thing I don't like is false reports from blowhards who think they know it all. I did a great disservice to everyone on the board by not exposing your info as BS but after my friction with Member 24-whats his name I chose not to. Me a hater? Hardly. You just didn't like being taken to task.

Where are my pics and guide? At my website thats where and I continually post here as I see fit. I admit I lack new photos but that is due to the decline of good looking women downtown.

I am in no mood to get into a pissing contest (again) with a know it all. For what reason you decided to target me makes me no never mind but I guarentee you will not win that contest so I suggest you drop your attitude and start posting facts. Out dated information is fine from a recollection stand point. I remember the hotel door girls on Ave. Juarez too but it has been years with the exception of the ones by the Yankees Bar.

Why am I responding to your post now? Because I have been in The Philippines and just got back yesterday. I didn't want to ruin my mood in dealing with you.

Mugroso

PS
If you want a break from Latinas, Angeles City is the place to go in my opinion.

Eddiberto Silva
09-20-07, 22:13
I well be in Juarez? El Paso on 10/5 was wondering if anyone here would mind showing a fellow member a good time in Juarez. For your time I would buy you a few drink's. I don't want to head into Juarez alone I speak spanish fluent but need someone to guide me in the to the righ place's.

Meat Loaf
09-22-07, 16:07
The thing I don't like is false reports from blowhards who think they know it all. I am in no mood to get into a pissing contest (again) with a know it all.I hear you and agree Mugroso except for the false report and know it all statements. Nonetheless, thats for the respectful response although mine initial challenge may have been too aggressive. Stay Cool 'Bro.

Treewalker
09-23-07, 00:21
Anyone read this book?..Looks like a fun read.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/sitbv3/reader/002-8330048-9909660?ie=UTF8&p=S007&asin=0975264001

Gallo Ingles
09-23-07, 06:02
A Thursday afternoon free...no work, no obligations..a great opportunity to drive across the bridge for a few hours of hedonism.

First stop: Genesis. Six lovelies in the line up introduced by Diana. I am tempted to choose Diana herself, but I have been with her before and I need to broaden my horizons. Diana tells me that Daisy is a "chica nueva" and she looks at me and smiles and I am sold on her. Medium height, long hair in tight skinny braids... a miniskirt and heels...long smooth legs and a lovely round ass..oh, yeah! In the room she tells me that it is her first day on the job and that I am her first client. I hope I bring you good luck, I say knowing full well that a woman like that doesn't depend on luck. We get down to business and, without going into excessive detail, my day is made. A little of everything and a tremendously exhilirating finish....I will be back.

Next stop: Luxxor. I choose a very skinny girl with an attractive face. Jazmin, se llama. As she undresses I begin to wonder whether I chose well. She must be no more than 95 lbs, yet her body is well formed. I don't much care for the large tattoos on her back, but her face is pretty. The massage is superb. I thought that her slight stature might mean a weak, insipid touch to my body, but in fact she knew how to work me. She climbed up on my back and threw her entire weight into it. Any stress in my body melted under the kneading of her hands. I loved it.

Next I want oral...and she obliges, not just an average bj, but a mind blowing experience that leaves me shaking on the massage table.

For some time now I have been thinking of dropping this ridiculously obsessive behavior and abandoning the hobby. I think I will have to wait a little longer to break myself of the habit. The Juarez ladies are just too good to give up.

Gallo

Mugroso
09-23-07, 17:10
I hear you and agree Mugroso except for the false report and know it all statements. Nonetheless, thats for the respectful response although mine initial challenge may have been too aggressive. Stay Cool 'Bro.

Have fun where ever you are at. If you post something interesting about where you are presently post a link to it here. I will be doing the same with my Angeles City report.

JackRabbit69
09-23-07, 19:49
Gallo Ingles,

What is the going rate at Luxxor now for full service, including BJ? How much for extras?

Jackrabbit69.

Dougie
09-23-07, 21:06
Why am I responding to your post now? Because I have been in The Philippines and just got back yesterday. I didn't want to ruin my mood in dealing with you.



Hey, hey, you went!!! Now I gotta start sharpening my tool for a little trip to the Far East. Have you managed to get the grin off your face yet??

Justsomeim
09-24-07, 17:15
For some time now I have been thinking of dropping this ridiculously obsessive behavior and abandoning the hobby. I think I will have to wait a little longer to break myself of the habit. The Juarez ladies are just too good to give up.

GalloDon't talk like that, it's just nonsense, besides your right, the J-town ladies are just too good to give up. Good report.

I'm gonna end up goin through the Zaragoza bridge to get my fix this week, hit the MP's over there. A friend told me the bridge is only 30 mins around 12-2 in the afternoons.

Happy hunting

Butt Munchu
09-24-07, 21:13
Hi Guys,

I don't post much but I do view the posts very frequently. Lots of good input and wanted to ask if you guys know of a place where a guy can score some Viagra before a mongering session. I would think that I can probably walk into any Pharmacy and ask for it and get it but just wanted to check in here and hopefully get some good inside information out to the community.

Thanks.

Gallo Ingles
09-26-07, 12:43
what is the going rate at luxxor now for full service, including bj? how much for extras?
jackrabbit69.

luxxor is probably the most expensive mp right now. they have raised the standard rate to $500 mn or $50 us. the massage therapists often try to obtain more money for extras. that part is negotiable and fees may be waived.

on the other hand, genesis, and many other mps have a standard rate of $300 mn. it pays to shop around if you are looking for an economy fare.

gallo

Clydesdale
09-26-07, 21:43
Hi Guys,

I don't post much but I do view the posts very frequently. Lots of good input and wanted to ask if you guys know of a place where a guy can score some Viagra before a mongering session. I would think that I can probably walk into any Pharmacy and ask for it and get it but just wanted to check in here and hopefully get some good inside information out to the community.

Thanks.
You can get it in any of the pharmacias. Some sell generic too. If you're a gringo walking down Ave. Juarez, the pharmacists will try to herd you into their store to buy it.

Coyote79
09-29-07, 14:40
Things are looking good in J-town!!

Genesis had about 8 or 9 girls working!
About half looked a little chunky--but I didn't look too closely because I'm only interested in Diana.

Parasio had two ladies working.
One was a white Mexican lady who looked very doable.

Coyote79
09-29-07, 18:54
For some time now I have been thinking of dropping this ridiculously obsessive behavior and abandoning the hobby. I think I will have to wait a little longer to break myself of the habit. The Juarez ladies are just too good to give up.

Gallo
yeah I know a lot of "experts" say we mongers are "sex addicts".

But think about it.
We mongers try to have sex with young women once or twice a week.
What is so unusual about that?

IMHO we on the border are blessed.
Recently I've been to NY & Chicago, and up there I was paying $300 for some lady I wasn't even that attracted to.

It sucked. And not in a good way.

Cienega32
09-30-07, 03:55
I hit the sports book Saturday at noon and wandered around a bit. Headed over to the La Paz area and wandered around. On the way down there, I was stopped by one of the FOUR "tour guides" wanting to help this poor gringo and he mentioned something about a new massage joint called Amazona's. It's just west of Ave Juarez on Martinez about mid-way to Ano Nuevo.

On the way back from the mercados area, I checked it out. I was told $40 for the full hour and didn't see one Amazon in the joint and certainly no one that resembled the beauties on their business card. Only 2 or 3 girls mainly the large variety but not in height.

I chose the one with the nicest looking t!tties. She had a very light touch during the baby-oil massage and did a lot of that drumming and palm clapping all over. Did a bit on the feet. Overall, the massage had potential if she was a bit firmer with her motions.

On the flip it was right to work. A t!ttie in my face and a hand on Willie. Nice motions then a CBJ for a while. Nothing super-duper but not bad. Loved the t!tties tho'! Anyway - got up and ran a stand-up doggie for about 10 or so but between my beer belly and her 5'4"(?) chubby asscheeks, the angle was nailing my back so I hopped on the table and she hopped on me. This girl can ride and ride. She was a sweaty mess. I was a sweaty mess and we both seemed to be fulfilled. The girl's got stamina, that's for sure.

The rooms are your normal sized type with the high, narrow table but there's a shower in each room. A small shower. A very small shower.

The girl I had was 25 years old - had an attractive face and "a bit" (rolling my eyes...) on the rolly, pudge-size in the middle but very nice chi-chi's, IMHO. Very friendly and sweet and we had some laughs while we dressed and she put fresh sheet/towel on the table. The $40 went up-front and I gave her a 20 for the handiwork and another ("Shhh!") 20 for the hard, tight, wet, sweaty 30 minute ride at the end. She earned it, without a doubt and never pressured for a tip. It's not usually my style to leave that much but my knees were still knocking after the shower so what the hell. Some of those chubby chicas can be a whole barrel of fun.

I thought she said her name was Emily but it was with a 'V' as in Evely/Everly or something like that.

How ' bout them Georgia Tech Yellow Jacket$$$!

The walking line over Santa Fe was backed up about halfway to the middle of the bridge about 4pm or so. The best part was watching one of these "I'm so hot" type blondes with huge bolt-ons skip ahead of everyone and steal a spot on one of the lines inside the building. She acted so slick and was obviously in her own little hurry from being self-important. It was pretty funny to see the Officer on her line walk away with a guy by the arm and disappear. 10 people in front of me and by the time I got all the way to the end of the block, she STILL wasn't thru yet! HA!

Mugroso
09-30-07, 21:21
Yes guys, I cheated on my ladies of Juarez. I traveled all the way to the west Pacific in search of a good time. At first thats all it was but things came into focus while on the ground there. Consider this perspective. We go to Mexico to escape, for at least a little while, the cold hearted, greedy, self serving American women. While there I found I was escaping the cold hearted, greedy self serving Juareña and all others that flock there.

Juarez just isn't what it used to be and it is getting worse with the demolition of downtown. High class strip clubs along with high class prices for stinky meat are on the rise. The massage parlors have been upselling and to dip into this pocket a favored MP has jack up their prices by 10 bucks.

I found the Filipina to be kind, warm and very considerate towards me. I walk into a bar only to be swarmed by beauty and of course hit up to buy one, two or more a ladies drink which I often declined. But did the leave me alone. No. They were fascinated with me and wanted to know everything about me. They stayed and rubbed me down and caressed and kissed me in hopes that I would barfine them for the evening and take them barhopping or to dinner or most of all, to my hotel room to fuck.

I have sworn off dropping off bucks in Juarez for no other reason than to improve my website and to continue the search for talent. But thats all. I plan on going back in January for some more good times. Well, thats my goal. I will be eating beans and tortillas until then.

How long can I last until I need some Mexican pussy and how long can I eat beans and tortillas, I don't know, but when we set ourselves a goal we should try our best to achieve it.

I would like to invite all posters here in the Juarez board to come along in January. If we get enough guys we just may have ourselves a MongerPalooza. But coordination is the key so don't go out and buy your tickets just yet. I need to see how my plan goes.

If anyone is interested in my adventure you can find it at the following link.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=649939&postcount=1094

Enjoy
The Filthy (rice eating) One

Meat Loaf
10-01-07, 00:31
I don't know, but when we set ourselves a goal we should try our best to achieve it.I'm almost embarrassed to write this post in search of fellow-monger (s) counseling, but hopefully my colleagues, you, can give me guidance and talk some sense into my head, both big and small.

As some may know I've resided in Managua, Nicaragua, Central America, for the past 8 months and it has been a mongerers paradise: US $8 for 30-minutes; US $16. 50 for 1-hour; US $40. 60 for all night; US $150 per month for a full-time, salaried, live-in sex employee 6 days per week with all living expenses free. Obviously, I've employed several live-in employees for months on-end and housed 3 at the same time within my 4 bedroom house rental on one occasion. Over the past 6 weeks my flock has dwindeled as I prepared to relocate to Colombia, South America. Hence, I've been fulfilling my needs at local brothels.

My favorite brothel where I've built-up great acclaim has become a staple in my activities once again. As such, I've been spending time with a young, sexy, 20 year old, mother of 2, who resided at said brothel 6 days per week.

Well, she happened to learn, via my mouth, that she should live with me as my full-time sex employee at the above salary. After two weeks of no communication she appeared, bags in hand, to gain employment. (I must confess my encouragement of her to retrieve this employment was a motivating factor.)

Here's the dilemma: She knows of my intentions to relocate to Colombia this Thursday. I've sold all furniture within my home and only maintain a bed, computer, and television. (Better ammentities than the brothels quarters.)

I've purchased all necessary transportation to Colombia and have rented a residence there with security deposit already paid. But she's cute, very attentive, domesticated, and we have great sex for hours on end: 5-7 hours of penetration is not uncommon and she never gets sore or complains. 20 year olds! I'm 32.

Mongers, (1) should I continue with my plan and move to Colombia this Thursday for new mongering or (2) should I rent a new house, furnished, for US $600 per month; employee her; hire more sex-employee; and continue what I've been doing and grown accustom to for the past 8 months?

I'm sex-confused and only gain "common sense" when drinking alcohol. I know you mongerers will have good advice, whether aggressive, truthful, or BS.

Meat Loaf (well-done or under-cooked, you decide)

Peedie
10-01-07, 18:35
i'll be going to the utep/east carolina football game the weekend of 10/12, and we want to hit juarez for a little fan-friendly activity friday afternoon/evening and saturday night after the game. i'll be with a buddy, and we are planning to hit a couple of massages place friday, (maybe one in the afternoon and one early evening) and then the strip club type places saturday night. i'm pretty familiar with the mongering scene, i travel a lot to puerto rico on business, so i speak enough espanol to get by.

any tips for juarez on best places, best quality?

price really isn't an object, especially since it's vacation.

also any tips on good bars to get ready at, and any decent steak places.
how long will it take us to cross the border friday afternoon around 3 pm? how about saturday night around 10 pm? can you drink while you are waitning in line? would it be best to hire someone to drive us over the border and drive us around juarez? since we are limited in time, we're just trying to get our best "bangs for our buck" lol

any help would be appreciated. thanks, peedie.

Clydesdale
10-02-07, 07:43
I'm almost embarrassed to write this post in search of fellow-monger (s) counseling, but hopefully my colleagues, you, can give me guidance and talk some sense into my head, both big and small.

As some may know I've resided in Managua, Nicaragua, Central America, for the past 8 months and it has been a mongerers paradise: US $8 for 30-minutes; US $16. 50 for 1-hour; US $40. 60 for all night; US $150 per month for a full-time, salaried, live-in sex employee 6 days per week with all living expenses free. Obviously, I've employed several live-in employees for months on-end and housed 3 at the same time within my 4 bedroom house rental on one occasion. Over the past 6 weeks my flock has dwindeled as I prepared to relocate to Colombia, South America. Hence, I've been fulfilling my needs at local brothels.

My favorite brothel where I've built-up great acclaim has become a staple in my activities once again. As such, I've been spending time with a young, sexy, 20 year old, mother of 2, who resided at said brothel 6 days per week.

Well, she happened to learn, via my mouth, that she should live with me as my full-time sex employee at the above salary. After two weeks of no communication she appeared, bags in hand, to gain employment. (I must confess my encouragement of her to retrieve this employment was a motivating factor.)

Here's the dilemma: She knows of my intentions to relocate to Colombia this Thursday. I've sold all furniture within my home and only maintain a bed, computer, and television. (Better ammentities than the brothels quarters.)

I've purchased all necessary transportation to Colombia and have rented a residence there with security deposit already paid. But she's cute, very attentive, domesticated, and we have great sex for hours on end: 5-7 hours of penetration is not uncommon and she never gets sore or complains. 20 year olds! I'm 32.

Mongers, (1) should I continue with my plan and move to Colombia this Thursday for new mongering or (2) should I rent a new house, furnished, for US $600 per month; employee her; hire more sex-employee; and continue what I've been doing and grown accustom to for the past 8 months?

I'm sex-confused and only gain "common sense" when drinking alcohol. I know you mongerers will have good advice, whether aggressive, truthful, or BS.

Meat Loaf (well-done or under-cooked, you decide)
Delay the trip and stay with her for a couple of weeks, hotel style. Make sure she brings you a lot of common sense. You never forget your first (St Pauli) girl, but a Latina bringing you beer - with good head - sure helps. If she convinces you - great - if not you didn't lose much

Really, the reason I posted was to find out why an hour costs more than twice a half hour.

Meat Loaf
10-02-07, 17:46
Delay the trip and stay with her for a couple of weeks, hotel style. Make sure she brings you a lot of common sense. You never forget your first (St Pauli) girl, but a Latina bringing you beer - with good head - sure helps. If she convinces you - great - if not you didn't lose much

Really, the reason I posted was to find out why an hour costs more than twice a half hour.The prices didn't come out properly and I left off the cents due to exchange rate conversions.

30 minutes for $8.
60 minutes for $18.
All Night for $40.
(Of course, the girl gets 50% of the above rates.)

Salaried Sex-Employee for $165.

She's been staying with me since Saturday and all is going well. I've paid $60 thus far and will drop only $60 more before leaving. Hence, within 10 days she's profited $200 from me. Wow, that's the biggest score ever. I'm such a trick!

Mugroso
10-02-07, 17:59
i'll be going to the utep/east carolina football game the weekend of 10/12, and we want to hit juarez for a little fan-friendly activity friday afternoon/evening and saturday night after the game. i'll be with a buddy, and we are planning to hit a couple of massages place friday, (maybe one in the afternoon and one early evening) and then the strip club type places saturday night. i'm pretty familiar with the mongering scene, i travel a lot to puerto rico on business, so i speak enough espanol to get by.

any tips for juarez on best places, best quality?

price really isn't an object, especially since it's vacation.

also any tips on good bars to get ready at, and any decent steak places.
how long will it take us to cross the border friday afternoon around 3 pm? how about saturday night around 10 pm? can you drink while you are waitning in line? would it be best to hire someone to drive us over the border and drive us around juarez? since we are limited in time, we're just trying to get our best "bangs for our buck" lol

any help would be appreciated. thanks, peedie.

i recommend hitting some mps in the afternoon, go get some dinner later. herreraderros is great and very close to sirenas then hit downtown. be sure to give the pink ladies a try.

after the game on saturday, you will know what to do.

mugroso

Cienega32
10-04-07, 07:22
I came across this link that has some bridge cams on the Mexican side. Thought I would post it in case it might help anyone.



http://www.radionet1490.com/modules/mainmenu/camaras.php?pte=stafe&cam=1

Cienega32
10-04-07, 21:01
What would be the best way to get down the Carta Blanca baseball stadium?

I'm guessing taxi would be the best bet but after the venue, possibly 11pm or so, would they be in the area for those leaving (ala the States)?

Justsomeim
10-04-07, 21:46
I came across this link that has some bridge cams on the Mexican side. Thought I would post it in case it might help anyone.

http://www.radionet1490.com/modules/mainmenu/camaras.php?pte=stafe&cam=1The link is great, and I am very glad you posted, it's a lot better than reading numbers from an hour ago. It's pretty real-time which is more useful.

Thanks Cienega

J Europe
10-05-07, 06:06
What would be the best way to get down the Carta Blanca baseball stadium?

I'm guessing taxi would be the best bet but after the venue, possibly 11pm or so, would they be in the area for those leaving (ala the States)?Cienga,

I am willing to bet that there will be a pelthea of taxi's waiting outside of the stadium if ot simply hit a street corner and flag one down.

Jim

Cienega32
10-05-07, 07:45
Cienga,

I am willing to bet that there will be a pelthea of taxi's waiting outside of the stadium if ot simply hit a street corner and flag one down.

Jim
That's the way I'm thinking about it but you never know and I've never been that far 'south' before at night. It is along a main road so it shouldn't be too difficult, I guess, after a concert.

Dougie
10-06-07, 20:58
any tips for juarez on best places, best quality?

price really isn't an object, especially since it's vacation.


any of the cabbies who linger about near the pedestrian bridge will be happy to assist you, seeing as price is not an object. they will take you somewhere where you are guaranteed to overpay and where touristos who like to sling money about like confetti will do the least amount of damage to the prices the rest of us pay. heck, is papa smurf still running his overpriced junket across the border to the cc?? you should hook up with him, at least he will take the necessary precautions so you make it back to "the land of the free" in one piece. if there is one thing worse than a touristo who thinks he is rich fucking up the price structure it is a touristo who thinks he is rich turning up dead in a back-alley dumpster. bad press, you know.

Dougie
10-06-07, 21:04
I'm sex-confused and only gain "common sense" when drinking alcohol. I know you mongerers will have good advice, whether aggressive, truthful, or BS.


Have you taken up mongering full time at the tender age of 32?? If so, you are my new idol, and I don't consider myself worth to kiss your feet let alone give you advice.

But since you asked....my advice is to go ahead and move to Columbia. See the world while you are young, bone every beautiful woman you come across. I understand Columbian women are incredibly beautiful. From Columbia you can work your way down to BA, then maybe take the plunge and try your hand at living in Thailand or Cambodia or some place "really" adventurous. Hell, Nicaragua will always be there waiting for you in case you want to come back. Go for it.

Dougie
10-06-07, 21:22
I came across this link that has some bridge cams on the Mexican side. Thought I would post it in case it might help anyone.



http://www.radionet1490.com/modules/mainmenu/camaras.php?pte=stafe&cam=1

That's cool. Depressing, but cool nonetheless.