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Bachelor Warrior
08-20-05, 04:08
I gave Sol Angel $100. The girls in the other bars wanted $170, so that's why I said I figured I was saving $70. And Sol treated me halfway decent.

Glad to hear that La Conga is actually safe. Maybe next time, I'll spend some more time. I'll take the advice about the cab though.

Oh, and I did go to Fernie's. But there were very few girls there. The ones that were there were gorditas and no where near my type. I was pressed for time, so I left without waiting to ask price or anything.

BW

Howe52
08-25-05, 19:03
I'll be going to Nogales on my first trip soon. Based on information from this forum, I want to stay at the Hotel Granada, but I haven't been able to find an address. I have a good Nogales map. Is it reasonable to walk there from the border, or do you need to take a taxi? Thanks for the info.

Jester
08-26-05, 16:30
I'll be going to Nogales on my first trip soon. Based on information from this forum, I want to stay at the Hotel Granada, but I haven't been able to find an address. I have a good Nogales map. Is it reasonable to walk there from the border, or do you need to take a taxi? Thanks for the info.It is close enought to walk. maybe 5 minutes from the border

Phuqued
09-04-05, 06:36
I looked through the posts, and there wasn't much about Nogales on Sundays. I will be in Phoenix on business but will be available to travel to Nogales late Saturday night and will be able to stay until late Sunday when I have to return to catch a flight in Phoenix.

I won't get in early enough on Saturday night for a mongering tour or perhaps for any mongering at all, depending on my arrival time, so I may be limited to Sunday. Does anyone have any suggestions about activities for Sunday? Does anyone know if there are any escort services? I was planning to stay over Saturday night on the US side but can also stay in the MX.

Thanks,

Jiggs

Phuqued
09-05-05, 06:04
I asked a question in the post below about Nogales on a Sunday. I was searching the forum and reviewed some favorable posts about San Luis Rio Colorado. It appears that Nogales and San Luis are about the same distance from Phoenix, and I will have a day to play on either side of my trip to Phoenix. Is San Luis a better spot than Nogales?

Ed...
09-06-05, 12:59
San Luis is going to be further, unless you are on the back of a migrating crow.

3am isn't too late on Sat. Close, but not too late.

Don't worry about Sunday, it's basically the same in Nogales outside of Friday or Saturday. Obsessions is closed. It can be very quite even in the evenings, and daytime belongs to the curio shoppers, but there is still enough bar action.

Escort services? Taxis! If it's early and you gotta get a date, go for a ride and let him show you some girls.

Phuqued
09-07-05, 06:51
Ed,

Thanks for the information.

I will be there overnight Wednesday, October 19, and again overnight on Saturday, October 22, unless Wednesday is a bust and I decide not to return.

I am missing Juarez so much that I was tempted to catch a flight roundtrip from Phoeniz to El Paso for an overnight in Juarez.

Is anyone planning to visit Nogalez on the night of October 19/day of October 20 or night of October 22/day of October 23?

DarkRum
09-11-05, 07:05
Hello fellow people of the arts.

It has been a while since I have been in Nogi, and from all reports it seems like the woman in places like Placers, Lord Backs, Ferni, Etc are running $100 or more for services rendered, and that seems to be the not-so-decent to half-decent ones.

Is there any sub-$100 action with decent looking woman willing to hit a hotel? Anyone willing to share a number of a good experience? Please let me know.

I will reply with the same. Pending I have good info to share from my trip

I have been to La Conga back in May and the action was poor to say the least. Hardly worth the 65 they used to charge then, but from earlier reports it seems like the price of "questionable mediocrity" went up.

I will be in Phoenix next weekend the 16th and 17th and would hate to waste a tank of gas in a rental ($50 - $60) to go down to Nogi and strike out.

Thanks for any info either private or public.

DarkRum
09-22-05, 06:41
with nothing but experience by my side. i took the 2 hour ride from phoenix to nogi last friday night to play the field a bit

nogales was simply a shell of what i remembered.

places like obsessions and rio were working what seemed to be a skeleton crew. even though the guy at the door of obsessions told me there were 32 woman in there, and of course when i peeked in they were coincidently in the dressing room. wink, wink.

in doing the bar hop between lord black, placers and bolero, bolero seemed to have the better looking and better volume of woman. mostly all were doable with a price tag of close to $100 or more when all the accounting and private dances were factored in. placers has always been my favorite and you can always find something attractive in there, but again, not the volume that i remember. life is about choices. its good to be able to choose as opposed to settling for the best of the rest. the pricing may have been worth depending on your taste, but a c-note or more for rushed closet action is highly overrated.

as always, i was accosted by tip driven local who knew of any woman with services to sell. all about the all mighty tip. man, over time that can test your patience, especially when all they want to lead you to is one-eyed sally, and it's not even a pretty eye.

just for nostalgia purposes i took a cab ($5) to la conga only to find some of the hardest looking woman in town. yes i know la conga has always been a diamond in the rough kind of place, but there seemed to be maybe, and i mean maybe 2 woman that you would have to stretch the imagination to even want to sit and have a drink with. scary. it seemed the going rate is still $65 which is not much more then buying a few drinks there for a woman.

all in all .... nogales is not what it used to be even though i am sure when the stars are aligned and your wallet is right a little magic can be had. the pricing for quality woman is way out of line compared to places in tj or even central and south america...but hey, it is what it is.

i crossed the border with the big stick set to swing away, but on this night...nogi pitched a shutout.

good luck to all that follow

Ed...
09-22-05, 22:37
Bicardi select 151 dude -
I'm sure you've done it, but, almost easier to fly to TJ from Phoenix, --- 5$ cab, trolly ride, 5$ cab, a room above Adelitas...shit, that place is smoking right now. It's worth the drive from here (Tucson) at five hours!

About a year ago I suggested keeping those names and numbers that were so easy to get then. Seems like now, many have moved away. I suppose Nogi is no longer the staging area for a border run it used to be, or mabe it's so easy now that arent hanging around.

The State dept warnings about the border must have something to do with this too.

I thought Nogi might move more towards TJ, but mabe a sleepish border town will make it easier for the ragged monger to find a truer Mexican experience.

I havent visited in a while, but next trip I may go back to the old 'let the cabbie drive ". I had a fav driver who I trusted, and he could pull up to sweet, no hassle, hotel room chicas. I used to go with a friend, and once while sitting around waiting for him struck gold. Now I'm wondering why we ever stopped doing that way!

Phuqued
09-23-05, 02:16
Darkrum's report makes a trip to Nogi seem pretty bleak. Maybe I should use the time, gas money, etc. for a trip to Nogi and 1) drive or fly to Juarez, 2) drive or fly to T.J., or 3) try a couple of escorts in Phoenix. Regardless, I have a few days away and intend to play.

Lars 58
09-23-05, 03:35
It seems that the entire southern border of Arizona is $100.00. San Luis, Rio Colorado is the same thing. You are going to pay $100.00 at least. I don't care where you go.

Algodones, Baja California is going to cost you at least $75.00. That is at the "Green Door", $60.00, plus $15.00 for the room. YMMV.

I have been visiting Mexicali. World-wide bargains are to be had. $25.00 plus $10.00 for the room, Wham bam thank you maam...... in the zone. Straight mish, don't ask for extras. You need vitamin V, add 20.00 at least. Bring your own. You want to customize, bring money.

Best bet........ Street connections. Supply the hotel room and be sauve.
IMHO.

What can I tell you? Supply and demand. The "Gauchopins" gonna pay the duty tax. Go ahead and argue. Save and sauve are just a u apart. Pay too much and you just givin' it away.

Ed...
09-24-05, 03:00
jiggitai:

doesn't sound like you have all that much time for nogi, if you feel you'll arrive very lat on sat, cause sunday during daylight isn't all that great.
but... the bars are open and active 2-3am easy, saturday nights are hot, and there is action sunday afternoon.
wednesday very late night may not be great, though.

if it's a mexico fix you need, go for it. darkrum just had one of those nights/ moods that can happen anywhere. peeking into obsession's does not a review make, it only takes one hot chica to make the evening work out great, and i guarantee she was in there.

-not diggin on darkrum-i know exactly how that goes!

how-ever-
there are plenty of amp's in phoenix, many are fs, juarez style!
there is a lively street scene, if so inclined.(past thru twice last week, sheeeit, it's worth the drive from here for that!)
do your homework on escorts, plenty of cash and dash in phoenix.
on the high end, allow me to recommend sedona weaver in scottsdale. she isn't always around, but she is oh my god great!


but, don't give up on nogi if thats were you really want to go.

Phuqued
09-24-05, 06:05
Ed,

Thank you for the suggestions. I badly need a Mexico fix; I guess it is obvious. However, even if I cannot find that "one hot chica," I very much do not to be limited to, and without any intended disrespect to the providers, the most undesirable women on the border, because I have also had "one of those nights" (actually, more than just one), and it is not much fun renting a car and driving for 3 hours to not find any acceptable action. I think that I will both make a trip to Nogi if I can get there at a favorable time and also try to look up your recommendation in Phoenix. I see that there is a tour service in Nogi where the operators purport to know the best women; maybe it is worth an inquiry. I certainly miss those nice young chicas in the MPs in Juarez, however.

Jiggs

Ed...
09-27-05, 04:32
The LON guys are cool, but they are probably only able to scare up whoever is in the bars anyway. (I know guys - -you have contacts, and could help with a hotel romp) Sat night there will be lots of American style attractive Latino babes.
I think you'll be bummed if you don't go and tango busca! It's possible I could cruise down and meet you, but, I usually avoid weekends, and I'll be coming off a week away from work so I could be un-reliable.
Still, I'd love to hang if possible. I have a couple favs that could help a stranger get a late hotel date for sure.

I was thinking of hitting Juarez in two weeks, any idea on the 'safety' thing there? Some of the guys on the site say you'd never notice the drug war but a newbie to town always seems to take the wrong turn once or twice

If you need anything on Phoenix MP's there is some 'private' info available if you'd like to PM me.

Phuqued
09-27-05, 05:58
Ed,

I sent you a PM. I would be great to get together in Nogi, but I am not sure that I will make it early enough on Saturday. I will probably go down on Wednesday afternoon and stay overnight across the border, and then possibly go back on Saturday night, although I might want to try some of the action in Phoenix (I gotta remember to buy the V in Nogi while I am there). Maybe we can PM later if it looks like there might be a possibility of meeting. I just love Mexican and Hispanic women, and can't wait for my trip.

My best.

Jiggs

Don Tonto
09-30-05, 10:09
Hi Guys,

Does anybody know if Flor still works in Nogales? It has been a few years since my last Nogi visit, but I remember her working as a waitress in the old Lipstick's club and later at Lord Blacks. She was short (at about 4' 11'') and cute, with some clasical Indian features.

It's funny, but I noticed Flor during my first Nogales visit, and it wasn't until a few months (and a couple of visits) later that I realized many of the waitresses and female bartenders in the stripclubs are also on the menu of activities. I don't know why we sometimes desire what we think we can't have. I mean, in a club full of half-naked and available dancers, why does someone have their eye on the conservatively dressed waitress? Especially when she appears to be disinterested and is the only person not trying to get their hands down your pants!

I don't know the answer to the question above, but I think I finally happened across an old trip report on one of the mongering boards which detailed an enchanted evening with Flor. So, I definitely had a goal in mind when I made my next Nogi visit. Much to my surprise, I found her to be a very sweet and a very friendly young lady.

Bye.

Marty 2
10-04-05, 04:50
Has anyone visited the Conga recently? Is Carla still there? Is her husband out of prison yet?

Salethe
10-05-05, 18:05
I have just moved to Tucson, and I have heard that Nogales is a wonderful place for strip clubs. I have read a bit about it, mostly on this website. I was wondering how difficult it is to get around down there if you do not know any Spanish.

Also, is it helpful to be discreet about asking for more "adult entertainment" or just be upfront and nice about it? What are the laws about that sort of thing?

Thanks,

Salethe

Salethe
10-05-05, 18:48
I have just moved to Tucson, and heard that Nogales is the place to go for strip clubs and such. I have read most of what little I know on this web site, but I still have a couple of questions.

How hard is it to get around Nogales if you do not know any Spanish?

Is it better to be discreet when asking about more 'adult entertainment,' or better to just be upfront and nice about it? (Does that depend on who you are asking?)

What are the laws regarding the more adult activities?

Thanks,

Salethe

(This might be a repeat post because I did not see my last one register on the forum, sorry).

Ed...
10-06-05, 02:31
Carla was in Conga last time I was there, but that was January.

Absolutely no problem getting around Nogi without Spanish. If you're a guy and in Nogi, someone who speaks English will quickly attach to you and offer anything you are thinking about.

It may or may not be legal but it is 'tolerated'.

Although I seem to be the only one saying this, Conga can be cool. Just let them know what type of girl you want and it may or may not work out. Finishing your beer and moving on 13 bucks lighter for the look and two cab rides is worth the time, IMHO.
It is also my opinion that if enough Gringos with cash pop in and leave without partaking they will find girls to make us stay and the monger scene in Nogi could greatly improve. I 'swear' I have had some hotties in there, and I am talking young, thin and fit.

The street scene is harsh right now, so hit a bar, tip the dude a buck at the door, buy a beer inside and don't be shy with the girls!

Marty 2
10-08-05, 04:25
Great response, Ed. I agree,the Conga can be super cool. And walking away gets their attention. Others need to heed.

I am spending mucho tiempo in Guadalajara these days. A mongers paradise! Come on down!

Jester
10-19-05, 16:38
I love going to La Conga but sometimes they don't have what I want so after a beer I leave. But as Ed said you can find some gems in there.

(I live in Tucson now but, damn I miss living in Nogales)

SexHobbyist
10-25-05, 21:49
I'm heading to Nogie thurs evening in case anyone wants to buddy up and go or meet up.

Ed...
10-26-05, 21:22
Can't this time, but would be cool another day.

SexHobbyist
10-27-05, 19:20
Can't this time, but would be cool another day.Thanks, Ed. I'll let you know when I'm going again.

Muffdiver21
10-29-05, 07:06
Have been going to Nogales about once every 2 month for the last year. Plenty of action near Bolero's, Placers, and Lord Black's strip area with 2 good massage parlors in the same vicinity.

Most of the girls I end up with are from Placers because Bolero's wants blood money; have been able to talk them down enough in other club's to make it economical. Had one young 19 year old from Lord Blacks with huge tits, this was a incredible experience to remember, those tits hanging in my face as she road me.

I like when their young and have big tits, that combination of firm tits and skinny youth figure is unbelievable. Most people have a picture of *****s as ugly things you might see in some bad area of the USA. Mexico is totally different, I have found girls better looking than the ones in my entire high school, or at least as good as the best in high school or college.

If you catch them on the right night, before anyone else, they will even have gush orgasms.

I don't understand in movies when they talk about women faking it. If she starts to quiver like a volcano and then squirts water out her pussy, she has climaxed. I don't see how they could fake that. It's the only way I am sure that the girl did cum. I gave Paula from La Conga a orgasm, it took me 45 minutes to do, I feel proud of that one, usually they squirt early if they do at all.

SexHobbyist
10-29-05, 19:03
If you catch them on the right night, before anyone else, they will even have gush orgasms.You're right. Given the right circumstances, many of the dancers will use my equipment to get themselves off (no extra charge!) for the price of a $22 dance. It's fun to watch them work themselves up then take charge of the member to seek the "big O." I've left there completely satisfied and with my pants/shorts drenched in female juice. As always, YMMV.

Gustinado
10-30-05, 22:15
I made my first trip to Nogales on Friday. This is my first post in this forum.

In comparison to my prior experiences, Nogales is a nice place compared to Phoenix and Nogales is lame compared to Costa Rica.

I started and ended the night at Obsessions, they had the best looking and most attentive girls. Lap dances were $10 for one song. A better option was to buy the girl a drink for $11 and get an extended lap dance for about 3 songs.

I normally avoid the ‘helpers’ that troll the sidewalks in every city, but this time I allowed a middle aged woman to guide me to various establishments. She showed me one place that I wouldn’t have found on my own. That was a massage parlor called Sensux Spa. It had five nice looking girls and the rooms seemed OK. I didn’t partake of their services, but maybe in the future.

I also stopped and had one drink each at Lord Black’s, Placers, and Boleros. The girls at these places were OK looking and did not approach the guys. The girls sat among themselves and waited until a guy asked the waiter to bring over a girl. It was nice to not have pressure from the girls, but also it would have been nice to see them circulating through the club.

At each club, the girls wanted $130 for full service and this price includes the room. This price seemed out of line to me. However, after a few beers I gave in and agreed to a session with a girl from Lord Blacks. What the hell, it was a birthday gift to myself. The session was unremarkable. Not bad and not very good.

Afterwards, I returned to Obsessions and enjoyed a couple of lap dances from some good looking girls. The beer goggles clearly had an effect here.

R Brandon
10-31-05, 03:03
Hey Gustinado,

It's rbc100 form CRT. You got that right. Having been to Costa Rica, Dominican Republic and planning outher more major hobby destinations it is a way overpriced. I can get laid 5 to 6 times by comaprable talent in San Jose for the price of one session. I took a trip over with a freind from El Paso when I went to Juarez a few months ago which by the way has a much more reasonably priced scene but the talent is a notch or two lower.

Rbrandon

SexHobbyist
10-31-05, 16:19
Gustinado and R.Brandon,

Nogales is convenient. When you add the price of travel, hotel, food, etc., the cost of Costa Rica and similar destinations goes up. Nogales is just 60 miles away from Tucson, an easy, cheap run, even when you add in the price of gasoline. So we pay a little more than the cost of the same service elsewhere; but we're also paying for the convenience. Not a problem for me. Also, I can do the trip and get my satisfaction and be back home in three hours. Travel to Costa Rica takes a minimum of three days. That's a big chuck of time from my schedule and when you figure my hourly wage, Nogales is MUCH cheaper.

Gustinado
11-01-05, 07:10
Hi Brandon, its good to see a familiar name.

AZMonger,

As for comparing costs between locations, I can make an argument either way. I do enjoy the convenience of Nogales and I am willing to pay for the convenience. Also, I love being in Central America where the women are more plentiful, more eager to please, and less expensive. I am willing to spend time and money for that experience.

Wherever I go, I want to get my money's worth. I made some newbie mistakes in Nogales.

My disappointmet with Nogales wasn't with the cost. I had expected to find more establishments that cater to gentlemen and I expected to find better talent. This says more about my expectations than it does about the nature of Nogales.

Now that my expectations are more realistic, I would appreciate any info that would make the next trip more satisfying. This board has tons of good info and this is because people are willing to share their good experiences and their mistakes.

SexHobbyist
11-05-05, 23:56
Hi Brandon, its good to see a familiar name.

AZMonger,

I would appreciate any info that would make the next trip more satisfying. This board has tons of good info and this is because people are willing to share their good experiences and their mistakes.Here's some tips I've learned about Nogales:

Never take the price that's offered. You can always negotiate. I always say no at least three times. They start lowering their price. After three "nos,' whatever price they start with I cut in half as my response. I usually get action in the $65 to $90 range depending on the girl, the club, and the day of the week. Except...

On Friday or Saturday nights. Don't waste your time negotiating on these two nights. Their attitude is that there is enough business that they don't need to negotiate. What they don't know, however, is there isn't any money sitting around their stages. Nevertheless, it does no good to negotiate on Fri. or Sat. nights because the customers are lining up for the action.

The daytime action is as good as the night action only there's not as much of it. Just remember that it starts around 2 pm or so.

Not willing to barter? Just go to La Conga, pay the $65-$75 and get it on. No fuss, no muss. Cheap, easy, satisfying. As cheap as Tijuana or anywhere else and lots more convenient.

I've never hooked up with a Nogie street girl. I've seen too much trouble with others who have. It's not worth the hassle or risk to life and limb. This is just a hobby, not a compulsory Olympic event.

The night life begins at 8 pm, but the action doesn't really get started until 10 or later. There are two sets of rules for the clubs. Those on the west side of the railroad tracks seem to have limitations on the customer and girl's behavior that the clubs on the east side of the tracks are exempt from. So, Obsession, Rio, etc., while good to go in the privacy of the booths and the special rooms, can't allow certain touching on the floor out in public. Whereas clubs on the east side of the tracks will allow dancers to sit in your lap and work your johnson without any hesitation or recrimination and feel free to roam your hands, as well.

For the really young stuff, Ferni's is the place. Don't ask me how I know except that I'll say that it's been offered regularly when I visit and I've witnessed the bait.

I don't bother taking a dancer out of the club to a local hotel. I'm not there to romance my way into their panties. I usually get what I want in the closets without paying extra for the big rooms. Sometimes it's surprising how far the dancer will go for a $22 fee. I will say, however, size does matter with many of them; but, as usual, YMMV.

There is some talent in the Nogie bars that have been around since I started going there in 1993. We recognize each other and it's always worth a hug, grope, kiss, discount, or something.

The clubs in Nogie represent the closest thing to a "sure thing" within a 100 mile radius of Tucson. (Although some of the Tucson strip clubs are catching up fast with their "anything goes" VIP rooms.) To me the price is based on convenience and desirability. It's not a problem for me to pay a little for having the convenience in my neighborhood, so to speak. The price can be comparable to TJ if you negotiate and know where to look.

I hope this is helpful.

One more thing, I'm not into the Nogie massage scene so I don't know anything about it.

The Monger

Gustinado
11-08-05, 02:38
Thanks AZMonger,

My next trip to Nogales is looking better already!

Spokane Boy
11-21-05, 05:07
I am going to Nogles on wed is there any thing open during the day and what time does the night life start. Does this place really help ladiesofnogalesdotcom Is there any good maps to bars and massage parlors thanks everyone.

Que Bueno
12-11-05, 07:27
As everyone here is certainly well aware of, vitamins V, L and C are readily available over the counter in Nogales and elsewhere in Mexico. Can anyone tell me how strict customs is about bringing back a small quantity, ie. just a couple of tablets, without a prescription?

There are signs on the way back saying that you need to have a prescription for any prescription drugs. On the other hand, the fact that there are so many pharmacies near the border and the fact that that so many Aamericans go over the border to buy meds leads me to think that perhaps they aren't a strict as the sign seems to indicate.

Anyone have experience with this?

LvLatinas
12-13-05, 04:32
I'm heading down to Nogi either Friday night or sometime Saturday. Can anyone here PM me with a local, non-pro contact? Not looking to do the bar scene or Conga. Would prefer a local like WildWind posted about back on 7/04.

SexHobbyist
12-13-05, 21:28
As everyone here is certainly well aware of, vitamins V, L and C are readily available over the counter in Nogales and elsewhere in Mexico. Can anyone tell me how strict customs is about bringing back a small quantity, ie. just a couple of tablets, without a prescription?

There are signs on the way back saying that you need to have a prescription for any prescription drugs. On the other hand, the fact that there are so many pharmacies near the border and the fact that that so many Aamericans go over the border to buy meds leads me to think that perhaps they aren't a strict as the sign seems to indicate.

Anyone have experience with this?I've had experience with the long arm of US Customs. If you purchase drugs and declare them, they will want to see the prescription (US or Mexican script is okay). They are not tolerant, even for something as innocent as tetracycline.

Ed...
12-29-05, 01:16
You are also supposed to have a script from a Mexican Dr. when in Mexico, as well as a U.S. doc's script for importation.

Neither recognizes the other.

Cecil
01-20-06, 11:57
2 years ago is the last time I got any meds in Mexico. Iseen a doc and got my scripts filled then went to cross the border and DECLAIRED them. I was told that I would need a scrpt from a US doctor for them. They gave me the option of throwing them away or taking them with me. I elected to take them with me and called my family doctor from the nearest pay phone explained what the deal was and she wrote a script and faxed a copy to my hotel for me. I was also told at the time Customs couldn't arrest you for it if you have a prescription us or mexician. that may have changed by now.

So my advice is get a script from your doctor in the US first CHECK the US price to get it filled then go to a pharmacy in Mexico.

Muffdiver21
01-26-06, 22:54
Went to Nogales on Wednesday. First thing I did was get a room at the Hotel 47, one street up from the action. The room was only $30.00. It had a refrigerator and a good shower.

Because of the fridge, I walked up to the super big grocery store that's on the way to La Conga and bought some beer & water for the motel room. This was great to have for the girls that came back to the hotel later. Also bought two Viagra and some Cuban cigars. Then it was time to Monger.

Bolero's was the only good afternoon club on this day. However decided not to buy, instead went to dinner at La Roca, a very classy restaurant near TD Fernie's with great food.

After dinner, a girl saw me walking back to my Hotel room, she offered to have sex with me for $40.00; so I took her up on it. Back at the hotel we took a shower and drank beer.

Then I went to the brand new club 'Studio 69' where Lipstick's used to be. This club has been totally redone and is very nice compared to what it used to be. From a 1 star to a 4 star interior.

Finally, after mongering all the club's, picked a girl that I had slept with before. This girl works at Bolero's, is about 20 years old with huge tits and very slim. Took her back to the room and had a 2 hour party.

LoveLOS
02-09-06, 12:15
first night of lovelos in nogales.

arrived about 1am. ll was hyperfocused on reconnecting with his beloved carla, and teaching bb enough spanish to squeek by in nogi. taxi straight to la conga. as expected, niether carla nor the lovely paola was there. the only talent was the ever-present norma and something even less desirable. i realize that may be a difficult concept to grasp, but she was fucking scary. ll gets the owner lady to call carla. three shots of souza later and we are informed "no answer," but are assured she will be available maňana. we depart.

taxi ride back is eventful since the taxi we ended up with was apparantly unliscensed. warning, look for the markings all over the car. a plain white car with a sign on the dash is to be avoided. short story is cops pulled us over and everything was searched, and tankfully, no contraband was found so we were delivered to la linea having only lost a few months of our expected lifespan due to the nervous stress we endured.

obsessions was the next destination. ll found the place full of potential lovers, and the tekillya was especially smooth. more time was required to digest he higher than expected price quotes. $2.20 for a bed-room for 40 minutes, $1.50 average for fs, 80¢ for a cbj, 25¢ for a booth dance, 10¢ for table, 11¢ for a ladies drink, and 4¢ for a shot of tekillya. closing time came within five or six shots. bb got a table grind from stephanie and she managed to haunt his thoughts and dreams for the next 23 hours...not a bad thing, i guess.

ll had been in mexico for three fucking hours, but hadn't. that situation needed correction. fortunately, a tout informed us of the after hours nature of the new vip club and the fact he could get us no cover. that intel earned him the honor of walking with us.

vip is a nice club, with fucking great music for the midlife rock and roller. but after 2am on a tuesday, the talent is, for the most part, bored and fat. i say for the most part because ll made eye contact with a spinner waif less than 20 seconds into the bar. a minute later, she was in his arms. the term uber-waif comes to mind--apr 18-22yo 5'3" 95# or less, aprox 29a's or less, brown hair, nice face, light skinned, no english. wanted $1.5 f/s for the vip room in vip (round room with nice fucking couches). accepted $1.20 for the same. attitude was excellent, she did about three full nude lap dances before little ll even came out from the zipper. those dances provided big ll plenty of opportunity to inspect almost every inch of the wonderful little body being presented. the tits were minimalist, but she definately seemed to enjoy the attention and oral ministrations from a monger who fully appreciates the 0% body fat kind of chica. the snapper, as one could immagine, was tight, and the cowgirl - doggie combo were just what little ll needed.

bb managed to find an extremely good looking blonde, unfortunately they had to physically wake her up to get her to the table, so his report may not be so glowing for vip bar. there was nothing else in the place i would fuck, well i might with ed's dick, but not with little ll.

4:30 is a good time to leave a bar. we slept well.

night dos de ll, (and girl dos, tres, and quatro)

11pm start with the beeline to laconga. finally got the intel on paola. she is retired and apparently with child. i wish her well. carla is also technically retired and going to school to learn a more mainstream trade. fortunately, our prior relationship brought her to the bar.

carla is not some 22 yo supermodel you might find at a strip club. she is a pretty 35yo mom that is so sweet and our chemistry is more gfe than a business transaction. we caught up on our year and had a somewhat awkward, yet completely wonderful session together. we decided that the unheated rooms at la conga, and the stupidity of the bar itself with ladies drinks and that whole bullshit scene was not how we needed to spend our time. she needs to get to bed earlier on school nights. i have the magic number, but don't even ask. sorry, this one is not for pimpin.

update - by chance, this was the exact 1 year anniversary of the first night ll met carla...

when we came out of the room, i meet bb on the porch. he informs me he will never set foot in la conga again. wtf? one word: norma.

it is time to satisfy his obsession for stefany, located at obsessions. carla and ll part with plans for night 3. she gives us a ride to la linea and we pretend to head back to the eua, then double back to obs.

agave extract is flowing freely. steph is not apparent, so bb is in a funk. then next batch of girls came out of the dressing room. stephanie was among the group and i saw to it she was escorted to bb. they soon disappeared to the privado area. i noted two for the to-do list. one was a totally hot little thing who i have subsequently learned that i missed, she will be back in a few weeks. shit. the other i will refer to a marilyn monroe. i think her name is marleta or something close. blonde, 20 something 5'4" 110#, mm hairstyle, which totally fucking capitvated ll, especially when she was strutting her stuff onstage. she came offstage wearing only her panties, and i took her directly to the privado. session with her was fairly good, her eyes were captivating, her tits sagged slightly but i definately enjoyed her body.

the tekillya count was entirely too high, and since it impaired my memory of the evening, i vow to self not to get that shit-faced again.

bb is cured of the stephanie obsession, but then he sees a totally wild thing onstage and the rat bastard has a totally new obsession. i thought i was focused at times... didn't get the name, so we will have to call her jungle girl until he tames this beast.

we drifted out of obs and found ourselves at the spa on the south end of the row. eros spa? not sure. my notes are a good thing, but they failed me. i know she has her black hair, pretty dark eyes, is about 5'4" and 110#. her makup was interesting, highlighting her eyes. the name i have has to be wrong, so i'll call her black-haired beauty. the massage was so-so and the session was passable, but we did not return.

night 3 in nogi, unfuckingbelievable...

we arrived back in nogi around 8pm, both still suffering from alcohol poisoning. a few shots took the edge off.

granada hotel was a great recommendation ed....... thanks. if you are very fucking hungry the pizzaria in the lobby the small is an extra large in most usa pizza parlors. the medium is 24" and the large is 36".

carla and claudia arrived and we retired to the room. carla you know about. claudia is a nice girl but we should have been more selective for bb's sake. unfortunately too were the girls had not done this sort of thing before. they were shy. for me that was not a problem. i had promised i would share my girl unless bb failed to post, and i was not obligated. figure it out balto-boy. :p

my undercover angel was, well an angel. four hours of cuddling, kissing and fucking. it reminded me of my home life--twenty years ago. this is how a woman gets the lastname lovelos, of course carla already has that honor... we parted at midnight thirty and we moved forward the clock twenty years, and ll needs to get some strange... :d

bb needed release, and so, you know it, his latest obsession guided us to the bar with that moniker. jungle girl's night off--bb was having a bad night. and lovelos was just floating somewhere between nirvana and heaven - he didn't care.

the goons brought bb a hot little girl with bedroom eyes. from the side, my angle, i thought it was marilyn monroe with a wig. goon told me he had a special girl for me and went to get her. from 50 feet, i realized she had a great body and a medium kinda face. i'm trying to wave him off. he brought melody up, turned her around and slapped her ass. her ass wiggled. lovelos resigned himself to his fate.

lady luck is kicking bbs balls and licking lls balls. melody turns out to be an incredibly beautiful woman with a wild streak and an enjoyment for her work. she's a freek at the table. little ll wants this, even though he was not really up to speed, which can be a good thing. she worked her ass off, and somewhere in the process made that critical decision to enjoy herself. when it was my turn to work, she bent over and presented that gorgeous ass. omfg. that hole was fine...

back at the table i violated my anti-alcohol stance and enjoyed the tunes... and every rule that would be in place in a usa strip bar for groping your girl-melody who had come back to thank the ll, and stayed. then the 5'10" goddess wearing a veil steps up on stage and shows ll and bb why belly dancing is so fucking popular. bb and ll have a new obsession.

night 4 - smwslt - intensity notches up some more...

btw - smwslt = so many women, so little time...

a night for dreams to cum true. so many women so little time. since bb had drawn the short straw the previous night, ll resigned himself to sloppies - allowing my wingman to have first choice. that first choice was jungle girl. ll was attacked by melody, which is a good thing. another session with this one and we are making arrangements for some hotel action.

bb returned with what i took to be a mixed report on jungle girl. later interrogation revealed, to ll, the guy is insane. if you call a girl doing a perfect t formation suspended by opposing her feet on two different walls and lowering herselk onto your cock alternated with a blow job then repeating anything less than steller, you would have issues. my opinion is bb had been obsessing for 48 hours and no mere mortal woman could live up to his fantasies... bottom line is before that hot intel was clarified, ll determined other models were on his hit list.

next lady who was introduced to ll was bedroom eyes. at this point, i figured out she was not the marilyn monroe girl. this was one hot little girl. as noted, paulina has the largest eyes on the planet. she needs some dental work, but that is probably the only complaint i can find. and i looked at all angles. ;) about 5'3" long brown hair, 33bs, bubble butt, and a great attitude.

pool, vodka, tekillya, and rock-n-roll. we watched the all the girls try to dance to little itty-bitty teenie weenie peenie by lil chub... bb comes out of the privados mumbling something incoherent about the best fuck of his life. while that got my attention, little ll was smoked (litterally) and vows gracia (belly dancer girl) would be my first for night 5.

pool, vodka, tekillya, and rock-n-roll. i'm watching the goons kick my poor drunk wingmans ass in pool (i had no hope). then abe brings gracia to me. how the fuck can i do this? how the fuck can i not do this? gracia is belly dancer girl. she stands a stunning 5'7" tall, with legs that seem to go on forever. a cups, which is expected with a girl that can't weigh more than 110 lbs. about 2% body fat, and half of that is concentrated in her pussy. in other words, just more of the most perfect body by ll's standard. i had seen the belly-dance, i had the report from bb, this was a no-lose situation and so i opted for the pricey, but immensely more pleasurable bedroom. quality is quality. value is value. did i pay too much for this by mexican standards? yep. would i do it again? in a gnats heart beat.

a pornographic report here would be inappropriate, some readers would get their monitors wet. i might. if you have an immagination, immagine the belly dance being performed on your erect cock. omfg. we collapsed into a heap, exhausted and mutually satisfied. bb had lined up six shots of agave extract to mourn ll fucking his dream girl. while i understand, methinks that was an error.

did i mention the tekillya is the best i have ever had? try el jimador silver next time you need something to go with your lime and salt...

night 5 - separating the dogs from the pups.

actually, the separation came in the before the night bagan. invited a few friends from tucson... yip yip. something about getting home by midnight for work the next day. yip.

remember the six shots in a lineup? my yip yip wingman was wounded. slept all day and still couldn't bring himself to make the trip across the border @ night. yip. the lovedog is not one to waste a night of mongering, so the plan was a nice, pleasant all nighter with carla. stopped by obs while waiting for carla to put more minutes on her phone.

although i thought i would just chill, i was able to give both melody and gracia a peck on the cheek without losing control. then my eyes locked with sara, whom i had not met. about 5'4", 34bs, flawless body, black hair in a bobbie cut (did i mention hairstyle is somthing that i cannot resist). this girl has a fabulous body, true or she would not have gotten ll's attention, but the deal maker was her face (did i mention i like beautiful eyes). she has the prettiest face of any girl this trip, a wonderful smile, not the contrived lick-her-lips fake thing you get when they are on the hunt. a real smile, a mole on her cheek, and here is a new one---english!

abe comes over and the only question is booth or bed? i replied, "this is quality," gesturing at sara. he took us to the room. conversation was great, sex wos stunning, both of us satisfied, and she is giving me her phone number...

i'm starting to do the math and my phone list is starting to look like loopy's book-a-hooker list. dialaho in nogi is a distinct possibility. i chat with abe about this to get info on what the girls would charge. he advised that $100/hour is a good starting point. a tip at the appropriate time gets me a complete list of numbers for paulina, sara, gracia and melody and access, thru abe the pimp, who has a good feel for ll's taste, to about seven other non-dancers he assures me would meet my criteria. that boast remains to be seen.

i depart the bar to call carla. she can't make it.





shit.

i decide to take a nogales tour to see if we were just being stupid about spending all our time in obs. first stop was to check out the new and highly touted 69 club. what a fucking waste of time. first, the cover is $.6, no drinks. they are a dollar more than any other bar too. same for all the extras - a buck or two higher. an ugly girl landed on my lap and i sent her away. i looked at every girl working there. maybe one or two were fuckable. most were not. virtually all were silicone sisters, which some guys must like. no clue why. i walked.

found one nice spinner in fernies. that's funny, found a spinner in a free dive bar and none is what is supposedly the hottest place in nogi. checked out divas. i liked the place, but there was limited talent. some girl sits down and asks if i remember her? fuck no. then she reminds me bb got a massage and bj at vip spa on day two.

hell i drank too much. i had forgotten about the spa. this is the girl i thought i met at obs but couldn't remember what she looked like. now i remember the girl... kinda gorgeous. fair massage. fair fuck. fair value. too much pussy waiting in line to hit it again this trip...

ok im on the street checking out regular bars and i find what i thought was a hottie. her name was paola. 23yo bs obvious hooker. a tout helped with the translation and we agreed $.6 and $.15 hotel. ok, why not? hotel calif wanted $.18 no problem. $.7 asked in the room, i gathered my shit and started to leave the room. she adjusted the price. i should have left. bad attitude, [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) poor fuck. i was pissed and left mexico.

decided i could not have that as my dream for the night. so i grabbed some cash and went back obs. i walked in, abe grabbed gracia. i offered for her to sit. she said "no, lets go." abe said "what do you do to these girls?"

preferred customer status has it's perks. the 40 minute room got no knock for the next hour. un fucking believable. lots of foreplay. daty... gracia got the big o before ll had his pants off. m-orgasm - god's gift to women. women - gods gift to ll. the belly dancer from heaven. shit hot.

night 6 - super hole party

missed the super bowl, but the steelers figured out how to do it without me.

sunday night, and obs is supposed to be closed, but super sunday they made the exception. crossed and went directly for the bar against the expert advice of the tout following us. dipshit also got a surprise when we walked in without a cover and he was told to go away without his $ tip. i love shaking up the system.

bb and i decided to grab some necklaces for our regular girls @ the gem show in tucson. we figured the small extra tip would be appreciated by our dates for the night and since they all matched in style, you guys might enjoy knowing the east coast boyz had been in those holes. jungle girl had one coming, but since she was absent for the evening, abe's wife got that necklace. and abe owes us hehehe.

first lady to recieve her award was bedroom eyes. this girl is a real winner, and her table work almost paid off, but with smwslt, we had narrowed the target packages to gracia, sara and melody. melody was the second recipient for the ll pearls of love. she responded well. i love her new haircut. sara arrived at abe's beck and call, recieced her necklace, and made her acquanintance with bb, much to his awe...

prior conversation had pegged melody and sara as friends, and that both were amicable to take out. while ll is the first to understand the prices are much too high in nogi in comparison to tj and other fine mexican destinations, he also understand value for expendature. while one may find the occasional diamond on the street at $40-$60, the quality usually pales in comparison to a hot stripper in a closet for $80-$150. one would easily justify the extra $50-$80 for 45-60 minutes on a bed in the bar with the same girl. the next step is $200-$300 for several hours and pops in a hotel. add to that our negotiated bonus of a no-return-to-the-bar double date, and we figured we couldn't lose.

there is something extra special about these girls in street clothes. suddenly they are less like stripper-hookers and more like girlfriends. we grabbed a nice dinner at an excellent restraunt about a block past granada motel, and booked a double room for our super hole party. fuck the football, we scored!

it may pass the comfort level of many to fuck in side-by-side beds, but the erotic factor is very high. live porn, not on tv, but six feet away. i have to make it clear to all, and especially bb, that my preferred positions for the other couple is her on top and doggie. fabulous to steal a glance while you are having your own toes curled. speaking of which, melody is a top-shelf lady. the dfk really added to the gfe as we exhausted each other several times.

we finished at about 2am, exchanged email addresses and sent the ladies home. abe called shortly thereafter (they obviously called him after leaving) and advised us our last necklace recipient, gracia, was in the bar. after delivering her necklace to gracia, bb went into pup mode and left lovedog helpless to her whiles, or is that wows. i relaxed for as long as possible while this temptress was executing her art, and naturally, she won. this time with her was more relaxed as she seemed a bit tired, and i know i was. still, her bellydance on my cock was more than sufficient to make little ll spill his guts.

all of you who missed our super hole party, thank you. the room would have been crowded with you there. :p

7th night - approaching perfection/exhaustion.

the agonizing question the whole day was what girl i should spend the evening with. smwslt. my mind was tormented by the beautiful visage of sara i couldn't get the girl off my mind. and my heart was torn by the possibility of not being with my darling carla again. yes, they are prostitutes, so ll finally accepted the fact he should tag sara so he could get that woman off his pathetic little mind.

balto benz had made it his business to drink himself silly, knowing that gracia (benz) was not available and ll was dating sara; thus he was in no condition to go out. fate always steps in to fuck up the perfect plans. first, in the call to set up my 10pm date with sara, she gets floundered in english a bit and hands the phone to abe, who i immediately realize is a true pimp for these girls, outside the bar. i was a bit miffed about having to cut him into this night's costs. as soon as i hung up, i changed plans and called carla. 10pm date with her and delayed the sara date until 1:30 am. reader take note. second thing was a late dinner with business associates...didn't get to nogi until 11:30pm. do the math.

well, by midnight i was with ms ll and by 12:15 i had gotten her to forgive me for coming so late. this was the time with carla i had been seeking. no la conga drink hussle or cold bedroom, no shy friend in the next bed. just me and her and only a thin layer of latex between us to consumate our marraige, two more times. :d

1:30 the phone rings. shit, think quick... call me back @ 2am. we finished and dressed, and i insisted she go home and get some sleep. i led her to believe a highly intoxicated bb was waiting for me at the border and wanted to go drink some more. he is becoming a great scapegoat. i almost forgot to pay her, guess i'm getting too close -- treated her like a wife. i had her drop me off on the circle before the border so she wouldn't see me meet abe/or sara. this proves we are married, ll is fucking cheating on his wife already.

abe is drilling me about where i was. "i told you i had a girlfriend" is all i had to tell him. it was a hoot when sara asked the same question. abe looks at me and says, "don't tell her," and turns to sara and conjures up a line about bb drinking too much... i have to give him points for thinking on his feet.

despite my fucking up so badly with timing, i had the perfect date with carla, and now i am with sara. this girl is probably the best overall package i can immagine. a beautiful body, the prettiest face on the planet, intellegence and senese of humor, speaks passable english. after a ungodly three hole, multi pop toe curling session, ll still cannot get that woman off his pathetic little mind. sara lovelos, hmmmmm... has a nice ring to it.

as i write this back in the land of virgins, in the united states of the celebate, i have no regrets, except that i had to leave and that certain commodities could not be imported. i feel lucky to have experienced these events. it is just too bad nothing i write is true - the whole vacation did not happen. everything written here was total fabrication.

trip statistics:

body count: 9
sessions: 15
pop count: 20

the ones ll hit, in approximate order of favorites:

sara lovelos @ obs
face = 10
body = 9
attitude = 8
sex = 9+
overall = 9
sessions = 2
pops = 3
report night = 5,7
comment: proposal in for mrs ll status.

carla lovelos @ la conga
face = 9
body = 7
attitude = 9+
sex = 9+
overall = 9
sessions = 3
pops = 5
report night = 2,3,7
comment: retains mrs ll status.

melody @ obs
face = 6
body = 8
attitude = 9+
sex = 9+
overall = 8
sessions = 3
pops = 4
report night = 3,4,6
comment: best attitude award.

bellydancer = gracia @ obs
face = 7
body = 9+
attitude = 7
sex = 7 to 9
overall = 8
sessions = 3
pops = 3
report night = 4,5,6
comment: mrs benz status, amazing athlete.

marilyn monroe = marleta(?) @ obs
face = 8
body = 9
attitude = 7
sex = 7
overall = 7
sessions = 1
pops = 1
report night = 2

bedroom eyes = paulina @ obs
face = 8
body = 8
attitude = 7
sex = 7
overall = 7
sessions = 1
pops = 1
report night = 4

uber waif @ vip club
face = 8
body = 9
attitude = 6
sex = 7
overall = 7
sessions = 1
pops = 1
report night = 1

black-haired beauty @ vip spa
face = 8
body = 7
attitude = 5
sex = 6
overall = 6
sessions = 1
pops = 1
report night = 2

paola on street
face = 7
body = 5
attitude = 2
sex = 3
overall = 3
sessions = 1
pops = 1
report night = 5
comment: avoid her.

the ones ll missed:
jungle girl = molina @ obs
face = 7
body = 8
attitude = 9
sex = ?
overall = ?
sessions = 0
pops = 0
report night = 4
why the miss: misunderstood report from bb, then never saw her again. ok, so i have one regret...

stephanie @ obs
face = 9
body = 9
attitude = 6
sex = ?
overall = ?
sessions = 0
pops = 0
report night = 2
why the miss: so-so attitude reported by bb + she never tried to seduce ll - she probably could have...

claudia
face = 4
body = 3
attitude = ?
sex = ?
overall = ?
sessions = 0
pops = 0
report night = 3
why the miss: bb took one for the team.

norma @ la conga
face = 4
body = 3
attitude = 7
sex = ?
overall = ?
sessions = 0
pops = 0
report night = 1,2
why the miss: ll was not drunk enough

even less desirable @ la conga
face = 4
body = 3
attitude = 7
sex = ?
overall = ?
sessions = 0
pops = 0
report night = 1
why the miss: nobody could get ll drunk enough


you guys that 'also' didn't get with 'los when in town f'd up real, real bad!!mr ed, sorry too i missed partying with you this year. thanks for the intel along the way.

thank you again, ladies de nogi.

lovelos

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Maloso1
02-19-06, 00:19
Going to Nogales for the first time on Tuesday and was wondering where the ladies hang out at and how to get there?

Thanks for your help,

Maloso

SexHobbyist
02-20-06, 19:58
Very nice report of your Nogie experience, LoveLOS. I've also had some memorable experiences with a dancer or two at Obsessions including no-holes-barred sessions with a dancer named Sheila. You'd know her if you ever met her.

Noticable by its absence in your report is any mention of any of the clubs on the east side of the railroad tracks: Lord Black, Bolero, Placers, Fernie's, Club 69, etc. I can't believe you spent a week mongering in Nogales and never visited any of these clubs. I think you're missing a lot (!) by not expanding your experiences beyond Obsessions and La Conga. The clubs on the east side of the tracks seem to have different (and more liberal) rules than Obsessions and the west-side clubs. If you want a guide, let me know and I'll escort you for a tour.

Ed...
02-22-06, 04:14
"Sheila. You'd know her if you ever met her."

Damn straight! I like to call her Jessica Rabbit while we play the patty -cake!

Can't speak for Los, who has been on both sides of the tracks lol, But they try the hustle just a bit longer in especially the three clubs over that way owned by the same guys. You can find anything in any of the places, especially if you stick with them a bit, but I too have always found Obsessions accommodating.

Ed...

Rue Kraft
02-22-06, 05:42
Was in Nogales on Saturday Night.

Started at Placers. Met several ladies. They seemed more agressive than years past.

Tried a new tactic. Bought and paid for a privado and displayed the colored copy of US Currency on the table. Several girls noticed and asked if they were the one.

There seemed to be or girls than guys early on. Finally the privado salesman could not stand watching me drink XX Lager and watch the dancers so he started bringing ladies, making reccomendations, etc.

Finally, he mentioned a new arrival would be dancing and she would be great for me. Brenda danced her two songs and he introduced us.

She was cool. 26 years old, blondish, single mother of one little girl and would go for $162. That was for her and the closet. It was another $40 for a room. Being adventoursome, I opted for the closet. We had a great time, DATY, multiple positions, and very passionate and pleasant.

Having started the night off very well, decided to head over to Lord Black's since it was free admission since I was in Placers.

The State Police are doing a ID and "Credential" check 30 seconds after I enter. At first I thought they followed me in. But it was just timing.

I sit and 10 guys with machine guns and badges secure the place. They talk to a couple of the male servers and the manager. In the meantime, I order a XX lager, and recieve two.

I notice that there are only 4 other tables with people and 3 ladies in the entire place that are visible. One on the stage and two with a group of three black gentlemen.

Eventually, the state boys tire and leave.

I stay cool sipping the XX.

Fifteen minutes later a parade of 10 ladies come out. Things take off like one would expect.

Eventually, a lady that is about a 5 sits on my lap and I begin to ask a few questions like. Where in the hell were all you ladies and what is the Gestapo??

She tells me that they are looking for minors (men and women) and verifying health cards.

All the ladies who were hiding had an issue. So, naturally I ask about her and she says that she does not have the proper papeles. AND that there is one minor. I ask about the minor and she points her out. She is 10 feet away on the lap of a gentlmen from Casa Grande, AZ.

I give the chap and his buddy about the issue with the minor and the credentials.

We decide to go to Obsessions.

No Grecia, but Sara was there. I must admit she looks better in person than the pictures LLos took. Sara is tied up so I did not partake. Nothing strikes my fancy and the Casa Grande boys decide to head home.

I thought about Rio, but either I am deaf or just walked right by.

Check out Boleiro, Fernies, and eventually back to Placers. Find me another blondish girl who is built nice but too damm pushy.

Call it a night and head for the border.

LoveLOS
02-23-06, 03:24
No Grecia, but Sara was there. I must admit she looks better in person than the pictures LLos took. Sorry Mate, that was taken with my stupid CELL PHONE. She is that girl-next-door doll baby. If I could time travel, I would have gone to Mexico five years ago, found her before she became a puta, and kept her for myself... I don't dare publish the one BB took of us together with his 5 megapixel camera... :D

Noticable by its absence in your report is any mention of any of the clubs on the east side of the railroad tracks: Lord Black, Bolero, Placers, Fernie's, Club 69, etc. I can't believe you spent a week mongering in Nogales and never visited any of these clubs. I think you're missing a lot (!) by not expanding your experiences beyond Obsessions and La Conga. The clubs on the east side of the tracks seem to have different (and more liberal) rules than Obsessions and the west-side clubs. If you want a guide, let me know and I'll escort you for a tour.As Ed noted, I have been to, and partaken of women (xcept 69), from all of the above in past trips. I did make it to VIP on Day 1; and to 69 and Fernies on Day 5. I liked the fare at VIP and liked the later hours the place keeps. I found a spinner @ Fernies that I probably should have taken. 69 was utterly repulsive in both the prices and overabundance of silicone (IMHO).

One reason I often pick a place and stay with it is the VIP treatment that repeat customers get. I can go into either OBS or La Conga and they will often call the girl I want, even if she is not there, a nice perk. That is why OBS has worked for both Ed and I. It is always more fun to monger with a regular than being another faceless ATM, so as far as doing a tour with you, That sounds like a winner! I have my reservations for a return @ end of April. hope to bring a few Senior members from back east with me, for a roundtable and fuckfest. AZM, Check your PMs on the USA board for more details.

LoveLOS

Muffdiver21
02-24-06, 23:53
Was in Nogales Thursday night, stayed at the Hotel 47 again. It a block up from VIPS. Make a left on the road before VIPS if your coming from Bolero's. This time went into a club I had never seen before. It's called Divas. The club is in between Placers and Bolero's. Very small inside, was good though because it had two good dancers. They offered me the room upstairs with no bed for $150.00,forty minutes time max. Turned out OK because the staff put a blanket on the floor and took out every piece of furniture. Was sort of a picnic screw on the sheets. The girl I got was fresh, her pussy had not been spent on someone else. Really makes a difference in quality of overall experience.

Niblet
03-01-06, 03:42
Cool pics LoveLOS I have to get a camera phone before my next trip.

I hit Divas Sunday. The place is nothing to write home about, physically. Belin (not sure about the spelling, pronounced like Berlin without the ‘r’), was someone to write home about. Good looking, nice jugs, good attitude, and ~18 yrs old. Did her upstairs in a semi retrofitted private dance area. I will look for her on my next trip.

Also went to Fernis Sunday. Decided Gema would make a nice 2nd hump, but was turned down because she was on the rag? I have never been stopped by a ‘red light’ before in a Mexican strip club? Oh well, back to AZ.

Made it back across the border again Tuesday. Four years ago on my first Nogi adventure I was most impressed with Lord Blacks. It had a nice layout with lots of hotties, now looks like it is about to fall down.

Moved on to Studio69. Nice remodeling job. There were a lot of hot babes wandering around the entrance, so I asked how much. The waiter told me $200, I started laughing and told the waiter maybe later. This is the point where waiter would normally quote a lower price “for you $150” etc… but he just took off. Is $200 the going rate in this place?

Next place Placers. Helen a tall, hot looking 23 yr old with nice boobs, great nips sat with me. Took her upstairs and had a good time. She speaks good English (and French LOL). I will also look this one up on the next trip.

KnightMove
03-24-06, 00:50
I went down to Nogales from east of Phoenix a couple times per year during my yearly two month stints here. Used to be a dream come true for me, hour in the bedroom at la Conga for 35 cents or so, plus another 5 for the taxi there, or I could get quickies in the downstairs closets at Cherries for 20 or so. Even with the gas for my Pickup truck and some road food and sundries, I would end up doing three pops for a buck fifty all told, and the biggest thing stopping me was the six hour round trip plus a couple hours time over target, hard to get that much time free and clear...I particularly remember an occaision when I was caught "off base" with my SO calling saying she needed me to come home early for some reason, and me literally three hours drive away!

Well I managed to establish a deep love of long hikes and mountain climbing (indeed these are things I enjoy, anyway, and spend some time on) and that my phone doesn't function too well that far from cell towers. Craftily, I have a practice of taking a lot of photos when on some of these hikes or climbs, so on some trips where the "mountains" I'm climbing are in the "D-Cup" range I still come back with some from my more fictional trips.

BUT the rates have shot up well out of sight, I ended up only going to Nogi once last year, and it looks like I'm going to leave without ever having gone at all this year. At the prices they're getting down there now, I can stay up here and go to the AMPs or indies for not much more... and with gas prices being what they are, actually for less, AND I don't have to explain an 8 hour plus "day off". I miss my "three girls in one day" good times, but I don't have the 400plus clams it would take to pull that off available at this juncture.

Funny thing is, I've run thru Ciudad Juarez a couple times now, and it seems to still have the old affordable rates, not of the "good old daze"(tm) but at least of a year or two after that, 60 cent FS in bedrooms outside the strip clubs and (reportedly, haven't tried this yet) even more affordable 40 cent FS in the Massage parlors. If I lived in El Paso I'd be over the line every week, or if Nogales was still charging Juarez rates I'd at least be still heading down there once or twice per season. I like the Nogales setup better too, Juarez has its clubs and MPs spread out and at a good walk from the Linea; imagine if all the spots in Nogales were out at Conga distance and even then not the "several on one block" stroll you find over the tracks in Nogi.

Well I might be back to Nogi again next year, finances and fuel prices permitting, or I might not, I miss the scene but without the "bargain" pricing to help get me down there, I'm not sure I miss it enough to find the time.

KM

SexHobbyist
03-28-06, 17:39
BUT the rates have shot up well out of sight

KMI agree with you. The generals in charge of the Nogales adult scene have priced themselves out of the market for those of us who partake on a "hobby" basis. It's no longer affordable to pop down the road from Tucson for an afternoon or evening quickie. It is now cheaper to fly to San Diego from Tucson or Phoenix, drive/taxi to the TJ border and spend time socializing with those chicas.

I don't know what they're thinking in Nogie, but it's just not worth what they're charging any more. They've priced themselves to the point of diminishing returns. If they want to increase business, then lower the prices. Basic economics.

KnightMove
03-29-06, 00:23
Posting about the Nogi pricing issue on another site, I got a reply indicating that some of the MP's in Nogales are still charging 40 all told, nobody has confirmed that, and I've yet to find a review saying that either, but it would put the three chicha afternoon back on the menu even with the high price of fuel these days.

KnightMove
04-01-06, 00:03
False alarm on the reports of 30 MP's in Nogales; I was complaining about the Nogales situation, mentioned the 40 MP's in C. Juarez, and they were responding that there were 30 MP's in C. Juarez.

Why not just give me a paper cut and rub some 'limon' juice in it, while you're at at?

Since I haven't been at all this year, and only once last year, I'm assuming I'm not even up to date; what are the working ladies of Nogales hitting us gringos up for these days?

SexHobbyist
04-03-06, 17:13
Since I haven't been at all this year, and only once last year, I'm assuming I'm not even up to date; what are the working ladies of Nogales hitting us gringos up for these days?I'm making a full reconnaissance visit on Friday 4/13 and will report.

Ready 007
04-05-06, 23:45
I will share my recent and only experience with a MP in Nogales in hopes someone out there has more experience and can share the rules of the road. I crossed the border and turned left as all the posts advise across the railroad tracks. It was mid-day so the only thing going was Borleos (sp) Bar and a MP next to Cheers. Since I was alone, I decided not to enter the bar and opted for the MP. Once in the MP the guy at the desk tells me the rate is $40 for 40 minutes and I will have to negotiate extras with the girl. Then he introduced me to my girl and I knew I was done. She was tall, thin, legs that went all the way up, nice proportioned jugs, and oh yah, a cute face. So we start the session and about 10 minutes in she asks if I want extras and I say everything. She quoted $120 and I groan and countered with $60 to which she drops to $100. I figure we have a negotiation going so I offer $80 and by this time I am feeling every part of her body. She again says $100 and I find little Ready is getting involved in the negotiation. After a few minutes of negotiation little Ready has taken over and it's going to be $100 to bang this hot chick. In retrospect, I should have said let's continue with the remaining 30 minutes of the massage and see if time would bring the price down, but little Ready had already taken over. Anyway, we proceed with a cbj with her on her knees looking up at me standing. You want to almost lose it, try that with a hot chick. I held on though, and after about 5 minutes decided it was time for little Ready to make the plunge. We started with mish with me standing and her on the edge of the massage table, then switched to cowgirl on the table. We then did doggie so I could look at that hot looking butt as I pounded her pussy and fellas it didn't take long after that for one of the best explosions I've experienced in some time. After she cleaned me up she motioned me back to the table so she could continue the massage for the full 40 minutes. As I left the room she gave me a kiss on the cheek and a super hug so I could feel that body again. Probably nothing to it except this gringo just parted with $100!

Being a long time monger in L. A. Just moved to Tucson, but new to Nogales I'm not sure if I paid too much. I used to pay $100 to $120 total in Oxnard, California. I would appreciate experienced monger input on the Nogales MP $$$$, and please be kind to me if I paid too much. Just don't know. But, my first experience tells me I WANT TO GO BACK!

I know this has been a long post, but one more thing. I would like to try the bars but feel uncomfortable since I was alone. Any mid-day to late afternoon Nogales mongers that would want to meet up for a trip please PM me.

Ready always and Always safe!

Ready 007

Jester
04-06-06, 16:23
Hi READY
I've lived in Nogi and I can tell you don't be afraid to go into the bars alone. I did it all the time. And if it is in the afternoon, you should have no problem what so ever.

I've never tried the MP's but your post makes me want to give it a try. Hopefully soon.

SexHobbyist
04-07-06, 22:26
Good report, Ready....

I"ve been going alone to Nogales for 15 years (day and night) and never encountered any difficulties in any of the bars. Except once when the local army / swat team / DEA / whatever came in looking for something. I just sat quietly and let them do their thing and they left me alone. In all these years, I've never had a problem with money, pimps, chicas, or rip-offs in any of the bars. It will help if you speak a little Spanish (I don't), but that's never been an obstacle for me. Always negotiate. Never pay the asking price. Let time and greed work for you. Either I've been lucky, or Nogie isn't so bad after all.

Frankfurter
04-09-06, 18:21
After a long absence this weekend once again a visit to Cherries. They remodeled, mainly moved the entrance around the corner, maybe to be more visible for punters who frequent Lord Black etc.. Inside almost the same, the stage has moved and a new carpet was put in. The ground floor "privados" don't have doors/curtains anymore.

For a late Saturday afternoon it was exceptionally quite. During the two hours I was there I encountered four customers. The reason is certainly cost. The 2nd floor VIP is now $50 (25 min.)

I had a session with Paola (real name Leticia) from D.F.Mexico, nice attitude, black shoulder long hair, nice face, in the looks department maybe a 8, georgeous (fake) tits. Great, unrushed session, great BBBJ, started sucking again even after first shot. Recommended. Total for her: $60. Expensive compared to a few years back.

SexHobbyist
04-16-06, 04:33
Visited Nogales last night (Good Friday). It was a mistake since all but a few clubs were closed for Holy Weekend. Open were Cherries, Divas, VIP, and Obsessions. All but Obsessions had just three or four dancers; none of them were worth a second look. It was very dissappointing.

Divas is a new club. I'd describe it as a crack house with white table cloths. It's not a friendly place. The four girls were cold and unavailable. VIP had three or four girls, but they were all heifers and they avoided the customers. This is my first visit to Cherries since the remodeling. I was definitely not impressed. What were they thinking?

Ended up at Obsessions. This place had more promise so we stayed. Got some privates with a couple of dancers. Notably, the privates are $22 each and do not include any sex. Blow jobs were $120. Full service was $170. The prices were outrageous and the dancers and their pimps were not negotiating. The hustle was on since it was Friday night and they were the only game in town.

I was offended at the unreasonable prices and refused all the offers...except one. I found a petite, tiny little firecracker. Her name escapes me, but you'll know her by her discription: about 4'11", perhaps 90 pounds...no, make that 85 pounds; 18 years old; perfect perky b-cups; slim build, brown hair. During our $22 private dance, she let me finger her pussy. It was just about the tightest pussy I've ever experienced so I had to try it. A little background...I'm a big guy: 6'2" and 250 pounds with a big, thick dick. Obessions has, in the past, kicked me out because I made a girl scream in pain when she tried to take me. I was sure this tiny little fascinating creature wouldn't take it. Boy, I was surprised when she took it all. It was the most amazing sensation, tightest fit, and best sex I've ever had in Mexico...and that's saying a lot! I'm a veteran of a passionate, non-stop affair with the amazing Obsessions diva, Sheila; so I know good sex; and you know what I'm talking about if you knew Sheila (alas, she's gone for good). But this amazing tiny dancer could do it all with skill that had me mesmerized. In spite of the disaster of Nogales on this Friday night, this one dancer was worth the trip. It's almost as if I can never go back to Nogie because I don't think anything can top this experience with....(what's her name?). As I said, it was the best sex ever in Mexico and I've been going there for about 15 years.

Yeah, I wish I'd gotten her name.

Pdub1963
04-16-06, 21:20
Wanting to take my first trip to Nogi (been there for the cigars/trinkets/ prescriptions/etc.. before, but not the girls). It's a short trip from Tucson, so looking at a week night/afternoon. Lots of good info here, from what I gather after 2 pm is best if I don't want to make it a night trip. Also do the MPs and clubs all pratice safe? Thanks PM for any info/tips.

Que Bueno
04-18-06, 19:32
Wanting to take my first trip to Nogi (been there for the cigars/trinkets/ prescriptions/etc.. before, but not the girls). It's a short trip from Tucson, so looking at a week night/afternoon. Lots of good info here, from what I gather after 2 pm is best if I don't want to make it a night trip. Also do the MPs and clubs all pratice safe? Thanks PM for any info/tips.Hey Pdub1963,

Probably most your questions have been asked and answered in the forum already, so you might want to first just read everything fromt the past six months or so, if you haven't already. There is some great info. on the forum and much of it is quite entertaining as well. From what I gather, everyone does practice safe although once in a while you hear of guys going down there and trying to get them to do FS without C, which seems just plain nuts to me.

Pdub1963
04-19-06, 00:07
Thanks Que Bueno,

I did read all the posts already, and you are definitly right, informative and entertaining. Just seeing if there was any other tips no covered, but you answered the biggest question I had. Thanks again

PDub

Goodfeller
04-24-06, 02:56
Hey Pdub,

I've been to Nogi a few times and my experience as of late is to keep driving until you hit TJ. Nogales is more expensive, less choices and in general not worth the trip. In TJ you can have a room with a girl and full service for 60 bucks, that is in a bar full of chicas. Or you can get one of the many street girls, many of them are attractive, for as litle as 20 bucks. Nogales, you'll get a dance for 20 and maybe a quick blowjob in a closet for $60. The street scene seems a little more aggressive too. To sum it up, I'd say wait until you have a couple days and go to TJ, way more for the money. Better yet, every time you get the urge, put $200 bucks in the bank. Then in a few months, take a trip to Thailand or Brazil. You'll never consider Nogales again.

Take care and play safe.

Pdub1963
04-24-06, 05:38
Thanks Goodfeller,

Just lookin into Nogi, more for the convienance, with the job can't get more than a day off here or there. So until then I'll see what happens. I actually go to Rocky Point quite a bit if I have a weekend, not cheap like TJ, but I know the area pretty well. Prices there have went up with all the condos and resorts going in. I left a report in "other"

Later mongers

PDub

LoveLOS
04-25-06, 05:03
I have to agree with all the comments about Nogi prices. The fact that I have had the most and the best sex in Nogi of all the destinations, including TJ, keeps this monger cumming back...


Yeah, I wish I'd gotten her name.From your description, I will make it my mission in life to get MORE than her name! :D

PDub, Ready, others...
Will be in Nogi Wed night thru Saturday night, including afternoons. I don't like to go solo all of the time, so some company would be preferred. Please send me a PM to this or a USAsexgide site PM if you would like a tour guide or just want to share a drink.

I am planning a sex guide roundtable (party) on Saturday night. We will start at Obsessions around 7 or 8pm and probably move around, according to the whims of the group. Hope you can make it. Again, send me a PM and I'll reply with a cell phone so we can find each other.

LoveLOS

LoveLOS
04-27-06, 21:37
Will be posted first on USASEXGUIDE in Arizona > Nogales then copied here.

LL

Munch Lunch
04-29-06, 05:10
Noticable by its absence in your report is any mention of any of the clubs on the east side of the railroad tracks: Lord Black, Bolero, Placers, Fernie's, Club 69, etc. The clubs on the east side of the tracks seem to have different (and more liberal) rules than Obsessions and the west-side clubs. If you want a guide, let me know and I'll escort you for a tour.
Sexhobbyist,
Thank you for your posts; they are most helpful. I'm going to Nogi soon for the first time. (I generally post in the TJ and Mexico City forums.) Will for sure check out the eastside clubs. Can you walk to the eastside safely during daylight hours from the border crossing? Or, how much does a cab cost?
Also, I am reading the Nogi forum and have noticed several hotel recommendations such as Granada Hotel, Olivia Hotel, and Hotel 47. Do you know of a hotel on the eastside?
Gracias,
M. L.

SexHobbyist
04-29-06, 19:38
Sexhobbyist,

Thank you for your posts; they are most helpful. I'm going to Nogi soon for the first time. (I generally post in the TJ and Mexico City forums.) Will for sure check out the eastside clubs. Can you walk to the eastside safely during daylight hours from the border crossing? Or, how much does a cab cost?

Also, I am reading the Nogi forum and have noticed several hotel recommendations such as Granada Hotel, Olivia Hotel, and Hotel 47. Do you know of a hotel on the eastside?

Gracias,

M. L.Walking to all the clubs on either side of the railroad tracks, other than the brothel (La Conga) is easy and safe. I've never had a problem in all the years I've been going there alone or with another monger. Your only annoyance is the touters that will latch on to you to show you the way to the clubs. These guys usually want a dollar for showing you the way, but you can be firm and refuse their service. If you're going to La Conga, then definately take the $5 cab ride. Don't walk there, because it's not safe to venture into that part of town and it's a bit of a distance from the border.

Pdub1963
04-30-06, 11:32
To all you mongers that missed out on LLs invite, all I can say is probably want to make it next time, he's a very good tour guide :)

Munch Lunch
04-30-06, 19:53
Anyone have a good map of the main mongering areas of Nogales that they could post here? Or, is Nogales so small no map is needed for our "destinations"?

I found one at the Sonora Tourism Office site, but it is not detailed enough to show the mongering sites. It is at: www.sonoraturismo.gob.mx look under the "mapas" section.

Thanks,
M.L.

Sun Devil
04-30-06, 20:39
Click on this:

http://www.maps-of-mexico.com/mapquest.shtml

You will find maps of various cities in Mexico, not just Nogales, including Nuevo Laredo, Rocky Point, Monterrey, etc.

To tell you the truth, Nogales is one of the smaller cities that I have visited in Mexico. All the clubs are close to the border except for the Conga. The Conga is not that far from the border either, only about 5 to 8 blocks away.

Pdub1963
04-30-06, 22:16
Thanks to the invite for a tour from a Nogi veteran, met up with LL, and BW, (BW sorry you coudn't join us) around 6pm Sat night we headed out for the border crossing, since LL had been there for a few days and it was early, LL showed me the layout of all the clubs in town. Went to Obsessions, Boleros, Ferni's was not open yet, Cherry's, Club 69, Lord Blacks, Placer's. After introductions to all of LLs girlfriends(he has a lot:)

We decided to go to La Conga to check it out, 5 buck cab ride later(just tell the cabbie "LaConga" they know where to go, and we were there checking out the "girls". I would have to class La Conga as where all the old bar girls go for retirement, lol. After a beer and checking the prices, .8 for FS, I found what I thought was one of the best ones there, There were about 5 to choose from, Monica was her name(picture attached), I would rate her about a 4(1-10) comparatively for Nogi so I went for an hour in the room. She was good enough in the room, short CBJ, then on to business, she didn't have much moves on her own, but was open to however I wanted to position her. One funny thing was had her up against the wall. think I put a knot on her head banging it a few times, lol. about 40 minutes from start to pop. Rating: Looks 3.5 ( has had a few kids) Sex 5, only because any is good if I pop, lol.

Info: For La Conga you pay the old man or lady running the place, then it's to the outside of the building for the side entrance. Also bring your own condoms, or it is 3.50 extra for theirs. Drinks are 3.50 each. Then a 5 buck cab ride back. So If you just want a pop for easy/cheap, La Conga is a place for you. But if you want the lookers, stay around the TD bars.

Next on we went back to Obsessions around 9:30, (Bolero was the only other choice for my type, thin, cute, young(18-21), but Obsessions had a larger selection. LL introduced me to Abraham, good guy to be in with there as he runs it, His basic offer is you tip him $ (negotiable) and he will take care of what you need, little blue, line up the girls, drinks, etc... So LL and I hung out, shot some pool and gave me his wisdom on the girls. Abe can be a little pushy if you let him, but just let him know politely and he will back off some. Got a tour of the closets and the room, room is nice, fold down futon, A/C, private bathroom. $$ for 40 minutes. Eventually I decided on Ciemana (pronounced Sea a ma na). picture attached. Sorry for the quality of photos, camera phone. So we started off with some grinding and a little naked rubbing before covering up. Short CBJ, then mounted up cowgirl, she likes to hit it hard, so I had to slow her down a little. flipped over for some missionary, and then she started getting into it, getting pretty wet. after about 10 minutes she came, I was thinkin' this is getting pretty good, well come to find out when I went to turn her for doggie, I had gotten some inadvertent bareback (cheap condoms). She let me finger her ass, but no anal, (this time :) ) Side note: she is a little shallow so bottoming out on doggie was common. She actually seemed to enjoy, so who am I to dissapoint, lol. I popped at about 35 minutes and the knock on the door came right at 40 minutes, but watch them, cause I heard LL had them knock early, but he set 'em straight. "Go LL" :) Rating: Looks 7(cute face, trim body, but had a c section, which was the only detractor), sex 7 (because she is submissive and looks at you during) Finally left around 1am, took half an hour for LL to say bye to all his girlfriends, J/K. Then back across the border for the hour drive to Tucson.

Totals: The Amex way,
Drive down & back 12 bucks gas
Parking(24hour limit) 4 bucks
La Conga (including taxi) $
Obsessions
Ciemana in Room $$
Abe's tip including drinks, smokes, drink for girl, .6
Experienced Monger tour guide, Priceless

I will have to take a short break, due to job issues, but plan on making the trip at least on a monthly basis after May. I will be happy to pass on any of the wisdom of LL to any Mongers heaading down.

PDub

LoveLOS
05-01-06, 10:17
Visited Nogales last night


I was offended at the unreasonable prices and refused all the offers...except one. I found a petite, tiny little firecracker. Her name escapes me, but you'll know her by her discription: about 4'11", perhaps 90 pounds...no, make that 85 pounds; 18 years old; perfect perky b-cups; slim build, brown hair. During our $22 private dance, she let me finger her pussy. It was just about the tightest pussy I've ever experienced so I had to try it.

...

It's almost as if I can never go back to Nogie because I don't think anything can top this experience with....(what's her name?). As I said, it was the best sex ever in Mexico and I've been going there for about 15 years.

Yeah, I wish I'd gotten her name.

I told you I'd make it my mission in Life:

Lorainia

Will post here soon. Daily reports now at USG > Arizona > Nogales

Ed...
05-01-06, 19:21
Is that who I thought to be liliana, the tiny asian looking one we couldnt find your first trip?

I'm not going to apologise any more for missing you again, I can assure you no one is more frustrated at my behavior than myself. (it's my position now that YOUR timing sucks!)
Hope you got things sorted out sat night, I surely would have helped if possible.

Ed... woof yip yip

SexHobbyist
05-01-06, 20:10
I told you I'd make it my mission in Life:

LorainiaThanks, LL. I hope you got to experience some of that firecracker. She should have made your trip worthwhile.

Munch Lunch
05-01-06, 20:37
SEXHOBBYIST- Thank you for your reply on the eastside clubs; I will trot over there when in town.

SUN DEVIL - The mapquest site is great and I can also use it all over Mexico. I appreciate it.

M.L.

LoveLOS
05-03-06, 23:27
Thanks, LL. I hope you got to experience some of that firecracker. She should have made your trip worthwhile.Yes, twice actually, and yes I 'd fly halfway around the world for tang like that (come to think of it, I have flown halfway around the world for tang like that :D ) Had the funds and time held out, who the fuck can tell? She is very close to promotion to being a LoveLOS girl, which is a high honor; only 8 ladies have ever received it.

I'll never listen to Tiny Dancer again the same way ('cause I changed the lyrics):
Hold me closer tiny dancer
Count the strobelights on the runway
Lay me down in sheets of linen
you had a busy day today

Blue jean baby, Nogales lady, temptress for the band
Pretty eyed, pirate smile, you'll marry a mongering man
Ballerina, you must have seen her dancing at the club
And now she's in me, always with me, tiny dancer in my head

Starting report is here (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=431992). Read up from there. I'll get the reports and pics onto international when I get caught up from my "vacation."

LoveLOS

SexHobbyist
05-05-06, 23:34
LoveLOS,

Thanks for your report and for the name of that sweet morsel. After a session with her, my appendage was still throbbing more than an hour afterwards. On your next visit, we'll have to explore the possibility of double-teaming her (wink!)...at any cost.

LoveLOS
05-08-06, 05:05
On your next visit, we'll have to explore the possibility of double-teaming her (wink!)...at any cost.Twist my arm...






OK! OK! You talked me into it...


I'll take the back, you take the front. :D

Abe told me that he now has another spinner there now in addition to Tiny Dancer. Bastard. He knows I can't get back there tonight... Speaking of bastards with after-trip tips:
I can show you a couple of sweeties that you've never seen before.Hmmmmmmm, I guess you can be forgiven -- when we meet your sweets, that is! :)

SMWSLT©... But a man's gotta do, as many as a man's gotta do...

LoveLOS

LoveLOS
05-08-06, 05:59
trip statistics:
so what is the big deal? ll only dated 9 girls in 4 days...
body count: 9
sessions: 13
pop count: 14

the ones ll hit, in approximate order of favorites:

sara lovelos @ obs
face = 10
body = 9
attitude = 8
sex = 9+
overall = 9
sessions = 2
pops = 3
report night = 4
comment: purified and weaponized kryptonite.

tiny dancer = lorainia @ obs
face = 8
body = 9+
attitude = 7
sex = 9
overall = 8+
sessions = 2
pops = 2
report night = 1,2
comment: tight is the watchword.

melody @ obs
face = 7
body = 8+
attitude = 9+
sex = 9+
overall = 8
sessions = 2
pops = 2
report night = 2,3
comment: a new mrs lovelos!!!

carla lovelos @ la conga
face = 9
body = 7
attitude = 9+
sex = 9+
overall = 9
sessions = 3
pops = 5
report night = 2,3,7
comment: retains mrs ll status.

crystal @ obs
face = 8
body = 9
attitude = 8
sex = 8
overall = 8
sessions = 1
pops = 1
report night = 2

jersey / oxyona @ obs
face = 8
body = 9
attitude = 8
sex = 8
overall = 8
sessions = 1
pops = 1
report night = 2,3

nicole @ obs
face = 9+
body = 9
attitude = 8
sex = 8
overall = 8
sessions = 1
pops = 1
report night = 1

jungle girl = molina @ obs
face = 7
body = 8
attitude = 7
sex = 7
overall = 7
sessions = 1
pops = 1
report night = 3

ailee @ placers
face = 6
body = 6
attitude = 9
sex = 7
overall = 7
sessions = 1
pops = 1
report night = 4


the ones ll missed:

bedroom eyes = paulina @ obs
face = 7
body = 8
attitude = 8
sex = 7 (prior trip)
overall = 8
sessions = 0
pops = 0
report night = 4
why the miss: smwslt

model @ bolerios
face = 9
body = 9+
attitude = 7
sex = ?
overall = ?
sessions = 0
pops = 0
report night = 3
why the miss: smwslt - didn't get back to her. a regret.

spinner @ bolerios
face = 7
body = 9+
attitude = 8+
sex = ?
overall = ?
sessions = 0
pops = 0
report night = 3
why the miss: smwslt - didn't get back to her. a regret.

heme @ fernies
face = 6
body = 7
attitude = 7
sex = ?
overall = ?
sessions = 0
pops = 0
report night = 3
why the miss: ll got cheap, tired.

day 1 oh what a night...

arrived tucson late. found another guy (local) going to nogi and we split a cab ride. cabby was our kind of guy. we stopped at a circle k and a hot girl walked in, got some beer and came out. he offered her a ride. nothin happened with this one, but it opened the door for some interesting story swapping on the ride to nogi. turns out he crossed the border and got a lapdance from crystal, a hot blonde i missed last time who is on my to-do list. i was introduced to nicole. black hair, nice soft b's and a wonderful attitude. i didn't get to say adios to my new friend because after a half-hour of grinding and having my hands placed in strategic locations on nicole's body, i decided little ll needed to sample some of those strategic spots. the girl is hot in bed also and little ll did not last long. wow. she is young and fresh, 18 anyos...

i chilled a while, which is about 10 minutes with abe putting girls in you lap. the second girl was lorenia. i decided i needed some recovery time, so we played some pool for a while. of course, ll was popin tekillya, so little ll was not so vulnerable the second time.

after about five games, and 10 drinks, i decided i needed to do this girl. she is a beautiful woman, about 5' tall and 90 lbs. brownish blonde hair cropped at her shoulders. light skin, and natural b's with wonderfully perky little nips. her cat was soft and puffy. i loved dining, and did so to her immense pleasure. she was rather thankful for my contributions to her pleasure, so little ll was treated to some wonderful tight ass that took probably 5 minutes to penetrate. the little ll was so disguested by the whole idea that he puked his guts out in short order. although the guy was pounding on the door, little ll was still firm enough for some post cum doggy to satistfy his lady. when we finally came out, 20 minutes past time, i told the door guy, never ever to do that to me again. abe took it to the manager, and so i think premature knocking will not happen to ll again.

ll was spent, some tacos carne asada and bed. work done today, i think i will crash for an hour while i wait for melody to come knocking on my hotel door...

day 2 - quantity, and quality

melody was one of my favorite girls in my feb trip. she is the gfe that really none of the others are. the only reason she did not achieve ms lovelos status is that she was just a bit pudgy. she has moved from obsessions to club 69, but abe knew she was a fave, so he called her. she arrived @ my hotel room in the mid afternoon. immagine my surprise when she arrived, fully 10kg (22lbs) lighter. i am talking fucking hot - near perfect, about 5 lbs and she will be a ll ideal. on the other hand, she is now melody lovelos.

session was fucking incredible. a female cannot be a ms ll unless daty and anal is on the menu (amps excepted on anal). not only is daty on the menu, she busted a nut. anal was served in feb. normal cowgirl was quite satisfactory, especially since we came together.

took a tour of all of the td clubs today for reporting sake and the fact the i will be tourguide starting friday. one opening time tour, and another after midnight. i developed the lovelos quick fuckability ratio© to give readers a feel for the relative quality of the different clubs. this is the the number of ladies that lovelos would fuck (sober) divided by the total body count of all providers. those mongers that like a really phatt-ass that many of the latinos sport, can add at least 20% to the numbers. if a fugly face doesn't matter, add another 20%. customer counts (approx) include ll.

there were some changes since feb, and quite frankly, some surprises!


club-------------llqfr©-----#_ladies--------#_customers--comment
obsessions--------60%--------12--------------15----------still my fave due to vip status. smwslt.
bolerio------------85%--------20--------------30----------april quality winner
placers-----------30%----------8---------------6 ---------1 uber hottie
fernies-----------20%----------8---------------2----------there is always 1! price is right. smwslt.
club 69-----------60%---------15-------------30-----------less silicone noted
cherries----------25%----------4---------------1-----------late afternoon visit
lord blacks-------33%----------3---------------1-----------how the mighty have fallen!
divas--------------0%----------2---------------2-----------dive-ahs...
vip---------------n/a---------n/a-------------n/a----------missed it, oops.

my second woman of the day again proves to me that abe knows his game. in feb i tried to waved off melody and he was obviously right about her. oxyona (aka jersey) is a very very hot lady, 5'4", natural b's, a nice not-too-round ass, and wonderfully soft pussy. my recent sport of this trip has been to be sure not only to blow my load, but to make sure my partner does the same. unless there are some ungodly excellent actresses in the cast (which i allow as a possibility) i am batting .800. this one thanked me cowgirl. due to the amout of alcohol and other females i consumed after this one, i cannot describe everything i experienced here. suffice to say i can't keep my eyes off her in the bar.

in feb, there was a blonde girl whose beauty and trademark white teddy has always captivated my wandering eyes. i missed her because she was not recommended by abe and she just never approached me. she would smile when we passed or she caught me gawking, but she just never came over. i attributed this to disintrest or bad attitude. i was in error. crystal's body description is simply a cut and paste of jersey's-- 5'4", natural b's, a nice not-too-round ass, and wonderfully soft pussy. i told abe she was on the menu tonight, and was rewarded by her presence. i figured i needed more recovery time but within an hour, little ll wanted to fuck. ok, your the boss, little ll. :d in room, both big and little ll wanted to, and was fully prepared for, a good, long, hard, pornstyle fuck. besides, my tounge was getting tired, so i didn't do the daty thing this time. i explored her stunning body visually and manually, and she was responding nicely. finally we geared up and she bent over for doggie. after i got tired of working, we changed to cowgirl. a half hour later we were collapsed in a heap on the bed, both drained and satisfied. omfg! her comment was "bueno. muy bueno!"

ll shot pool for the next two hours. abe is good, don't gamble, but i can best him about 30% of the time. lorenia is also, good, but not a shark, she only won twice in two days with abe and ll. i was finished sexual activities at the bar, and took stock of the after closing guest in my room. finally, i chose lorania, the deal was brokered, appointment made, and i went bar-hopping for the above intel, my service to the board. highly impressed by bolerio, but did nothing there. at fernies, ll got a lapdance ($7) that lasted a song and a half from a girl with natural d's and a smoking body. since fs in a room is only $100 there, she is on my list for day 3 or 4. smwslt.

retired to my room (olivia hotel, very convenient to the zona--$42./24hrs) and was soundly asleep when the knock came. lorenia is as stunning in jeans and a sweater as she is in that long black dress. she is even more stunning in a thong laying beside you in the bed. i am typing this offline, but i fear my appraisal of this beauty in yesterday's report did not do her justice. hell, having michaelangelo use her for a model for a marble statue may barely do her justice. i will qualify that ll likes his uber-waifs, so you phat-ass fans may only be mildly impressed. this one makes gracia seem a little chunky... :eek: careful and studied analysis puts this woman at the third smallest woman ll has ever fucked. you know how you can remembersuper tight pussy? i also remember uber-waifs. the only two smaller (in both frame and pussy size, were "dam" who worked the midnight bar and "nok" from the angel witch bar in bangkok, circa 2003. she has the tightest ass i have ever had, ever. since ll has a history of orally preasuring this one, she again became very submissive and allowed that careful and studied analysis, before the longest session of daty i have ever given. for variation, i flipped her over cowgirl style to ride my face, which proved a most unique and interesting experience for any daty-hounds out there. thank god she did not break my nose. :p my comments about tight pussy can only be demonsrated by the fact that, as the fourth woman of the day, i only lasted about 10 minutes doing her doggie. post-coital, we cuddled and both fell asleep. she woke about half hour later, went to her clothes pile and apparently made a command decision, came back and settled into my arms again and fell asleep. my only complaint is she is like a cat in bed. tiny little creature that can hog 3/4 of a bed--but who am i to whine about the small stuff?

bw just landed in tucson. i have an afternoon appointment with melody and i have some work to do, so day 3 will be interesting if nothing else. now where did i put that viagra?

day 3 - big white kicks it up a notch.

as i write this on the morning of day 4, the reader please excuse gaps in prose or logical thought. my body is reeling from the effects of three days with four to five hours of sleep, the process of metabolizing the excess alcohol still in my system (i.e. i am still drunk and there is a minor headache and acid reflux issue). other than that, i feel great. puppies need to stay home. which brings me to ed... so sorry you decided to act responsibly, your presence was missed.

my afternoon delight with melody on day 2 definately bore repeating. there was some confusion as to the details, so the 3pm rondevous happened around 4pm--this is mexico. what can i say about a lovelos lady except that she again kept her high standards.

the big white has landed, i repeat, the bw has landed. he came across the border laden with gifts i had requested for mi amigas. i introduced him to abraham and showed around obs. getting the pricing thing squared away.

as far as pricing goes, here is an incomplete compendium from recent research, starting with the most economic solutions.

the street has no cover, cheap drinks. sexo in whatever bedroom you provide starts at $20 - $40 plus the room at $15 to $60, depending on whether you are staying in mexico or renting by the hour. there is absolutely no guarantee of performance and nobody to complain to if the girl is a sham. generally, the girls that are too ugly to work in a regular establishment resort to street work. there are exceptions, good luck finding them: llqfr© ratio at 1%.

la conga has no cover, drinks are $3, and ld are $7. sexo in a bedroom is $80 all inclusive. there are very few models worth pursuing--llqfr© ratio at 12.5% with carla lovelos being the only fuckable one in eight females present. more about her later.

fernies has no cover, drinks are $3-$5, lds are $11. table dances are $7. sex in the closet is about $130 and the bedroom is estimated at $150-$180. the fuckability ratio doubled since i saw another one that was doable. in my day 2 recon, i met heme, who is a soft body that sports natural d's, which were the main attraction. i think i will miss her this time, but she may be worth investigation if the reader is so inclined.

obsession, bolerio, lord blacks, cherrys, placers and divas all seem to have the same pricing structure. most have a $5 cover, but it includes your first drink, which is fair. you can also beat the cover quite often. drinks are $5 ($5.25 @ bolarios), lds $11, tables are $10, privados are $22-$24, with 2 for 1 specials negotiable. sex in the closet (40 min) runs $150 to $200, inclusive. obsessions has a room with a bed for $200 inclusive, which is a major advantage. several do not have a bed option available while some others with a bed can run $250 to $300, which is total bullshit.

club 69 is trying to convince everyone they are something special. they do this by charging $1-$2 more for cover, drinks, lds, tables, privados... god only knows what they charge for sexo in the closet and i have never found a girl i had enough serious interest in to ask about a bed option. melody works there, but i would never consider fucking her in her club.

back to the trip report:
it was early, so we had a few shots of tekillya, and decided to start with a tour of a mongers nogales. for contrast, i took bw first to fernies, which had no ladies present at 6pm. next was club 69 so he could meet melody. we sat and two ladies were brought to us, i refused mine, asking for mel. mel was not to be found--shit. bw drew an exquisitely tall girl, lisa i think, but i'll call her 69tall. now understand, the man needed to bust a nut to get into his groove and almost went for 69tall when he spotted 69dark. being a dc reprizant, he likes his dark meat, so i called her over and we switched girls. ok these girls were probably doable if they would have at least acted interested. ll was disgutued because he is used to foreplay at the table found at most of the other bars, and 69 girls just sit there. i made a command decision that bw deserved better and dragged his ass out of there. 2 tekillya.

i knew in my heart that bw would not emerge from bolerios with the same amount of semen he entered the place with, so i took him there next. we sat and bw immediately spotted a dark skinned spinner with a screaming body and nice face. i saw a light skinned spinner with a screaming body and a models face. i knew the guy there and we negotiated sex in the closet for $150, down from the $180 asking price. bw left. ll knew his next stop was la conga and then back to obs for a possible rondevous with gracia. it may prove to be my greatest regret of the trip, but i turned down sexo with my model material girl. she seemed a bit put off, so after getting some air, i picked up a 2 for 1 privado with her, which was extremely stimulating. i may yet go back for that one. bw returned 1 load lighter and ll was 4 tekillya's blood alcohol content higher.

next stop was la conga. bw wanted to see the place bb swore never to set foot into again. ll was not going to date carla this trip for smwslt reasons, but the resolve crumbled instantly upon seeing she was there. as noted, lc prices have gone up 25% since feb, so despite my lady beside me, i was not tempted to get a quickie. a 3am date @ my hotel was arranged on the sly. i will note here that the hotel date option with carla is not an option for guys she does not know and like, nor is it something the bar will arrange for you. don't ask until you have a rapport with her.

back to obsessions. taxi driver was pissed he did not get any commission for bring us there, but that is not my problema. some street tacos carne asada, and we head back in. abe brings jersey, who hugs me before being informed that she is for bw (abe and i had discussed she was a good match for him). i saw molina (jungle girl) and knew i had to put right a past error. she was ready, i was ready, and the room was busy. the girls were herded into the dressing room for street clothes, and abe is out to secure a nearby hotel room. bw decides to kick it up a notch and we connive to have a double date. readers in the dc area already know this is not something bw and ll have not participated in before, and readers here know that ll is game for the extra eroticism of watching another couple fuck like monkeys... bw found out while making play by play commentary about the relative merits of jersey's wonderful body/pussy/tits/ass that ll had previous carnal knowledge of his woman and was able to make some commentary back to him. molina was using her tounge ring well, with her (now trademark) switching from fuck to blow job to hand job, and repeat cycle. while my toes were curling from the attention to little ll, my hand was busy caressing jersey's tits. it seems bw couldn't reach them while banging the shit of her in doggie, so i felt obliged to help out.

back at obs, ll found that gracia was again awol. however the highlight of his night was that sara came in to meet a girlfriend. we saw each other and the month that she had haunted my mind day and night after our first meeting came back. ll is a hopeless romantic, but sara hugged an kissed me like she had missed me also. abe had been informed that fucking sara in the club would not happen again, she is hotel material only. a 3pm date was arranged for day 4. as i write, that is about an hour from now... omfg.

ll and bw were spent, so we drank another 10 drinks, played 5 games of pool, and considered calling it a night. except it was only 1am, so we decided to check out fernies again. heme was there, but i had planned on spending $100 for her. when the price became $130 for sexo, ll balked. bw casually mentioned needing a massage, so we went to the mp beside lord blacks. there were two girls there, a good looking one that appeared strong enough to do a decent massage, and a real fuckable one that ll knew he could not resist fucking. bw picked the strong one, planning on a hj ending only. ll predicted he would fuck her since fs is how bw was born and raised on in dc. in the end, it was simple economics that swayed bw to fs. menu went $40 for massage, $50 for hj, $70 for bj, $100 for sexo. he did the math and why pay $90 for a hj when it is $140 for full service. ll knew he was not going to be able to service carla if the other girl got him into a room, so he left.

lord blacks had 5 girls, but a 0% llqfr©, so it only cost 1 tekillya to decide to move up the street. again, ll knew to avoid bolerios because a session with the supermodel would be fatal. i stopped at placers and ordered the last tekillya of the night. the girl who served it was a plain looking girl, yet attractive. she asked if she could sit next to me. sure. ailee could be carlas sister. or she could be swmbo twenty years ago. small wonder i found her attractive even though there were several other truly stunning women in the room. it turns out also that she has a brain, orders a ld coctail in pieces that results in her getting two drinks for the price of one (making it cheaper for the guy), and wants to practice her english. we talked until 2:45 am, and really had a rapport. i took one 2 for 1 private dance to make sure i wanted to have sex with her, and found her very fuckable. i was up front about my 3am date with carla, so we arrange a 1pm hotel session for $150.

finally, about 20 shots of tekillya later, i am at the hotel and met carla in the hallway. we had caught up on our lives at la conga, so we wasted no time getting caught up on our sex. it is still good and ll was capable of only one shot. carla had to go home, but she asked to sleep with ll on his last night in nogi. although that limits some options, a lover in the bed for long time should never be dismissed.


day 4 - turmoil and ecstasy

ll was able to sleep until about 9:30, when the phone calls from the office began. up, shower, dress, prepare for the day, start computer to write report... and a knock comes on the door at 10:15 am. it was ailee from placers, who had not yet been to bed, and had the good sense to realize she could not stay awake and be a respectable provider at 1pm. as mentioned, she is a pretty little chiquita, not a model or a spinner, but she had that next door girl that ll likes. ll was receiving a wonderful cbj when the office called again on the priority number, which has a distinctive ring. "this should be interesting," i told ailee as i answered, giving her the universal hush signal. swmbo was on the phone, my eyes rolled back. as we discussed the pertinent business information at hand, ailee chose to mount little ll cowgirl. now it was her turn to give ll the universal hush signal. thankfully the call soon ended and the rest of the session was a mixture of laughter and ecstasy, especially when she discovered the identity of the person on the other end of the phone. we went to lunch and chatted for another hour or so before parting. she does not like the td scene, but obviously the earning potential difference between that line of work and her day job may keep her in the lifestyle longer than she desires. i will try to contribute to her retirement fund in the future if i can find her again. the fact i have her phone number should help...
[tangent mode="background information"]
doing the math on day 3, ll noted that the finances were not sufficient. in hand was enough cash to cover my morning date with ailee, some food and the afternoon date with sara. i had been agreed that bw would come to ll's rescue with a loan from the wonderful world of atms. bw had also blown his cash in hand on his triffecta the previous day. he went to the atm and was cut off, and this is a saturday. calling his bank, the problem would be fixed on monday. this disastrous news arrived 15 minutes before sara did...

upon sara's arrival, abe was called to action to attempt to arrange a cc advance, which proved impossible on a saturday afternoon using the resources of two countries.. ll dipped into some travelers check funds, buying tiny sundries on the usa side to accumulate $300 dinero. a new term was coined for the mongering brothers--"mi casha es su casha" this plan was not required as bw chose to chill for the night, suffering partly from a case of alcohol poisoning, and his research report for his current undercover assignment "da kinky code," which readers of this board have unique access to.
[/tangent mode]
sara is, for ll, purified and weaponized kryptonite. a combination of his crack cocaine for the addictive properties, and ecstasy for the moments in her presence. a true drug of choice, she is one of ll's top contenders for his kinky-code research. need i detail that our session was, ummmmmmm, in her words "good, very good." on the relationship side, we got the phone numbers and other contact information updated, and conversation led ll to fire up the computer so she could see my other girlfriends, swmbo, my offspring (i know this may sicken some of you to know the ll lineage continues), and how prominently her picture shows up on my pictures folder. her promise to see me at the club fueled my motivation to correct the background information challenges.

ll's definition of walking on the wild side (part 2, see this report for part 1):
introducing your favorite paid sexual partner to her competition, paid and otherwise.

pdub1963 called ll for roundtable, and we met at bw's stateside hotel for a prebrief. although not a mexico / mongering virgin, pdub has not been to nogi. we posted and answered a few pm's and headed out for another mongers tour de nogales. ll got a feel for pdubs preference in chica, and his life was made easier since the body type preference coincided, so pointing out or introducing potential dates is a matter of instinct, no thought required. unfortunately, the loss of bw as a participant and the lack of other members either being able to arrange the night or possibly any desire to be associated with a mongering psychopath left this very a small roundtable. while that in itself is somewhat disappointing, that fact in no way diminishes the amount of pure evil fun that this psychopath would have. this rt would consist of a couple of guys with lots of time, little cash, and irrepressible sex drive loose in pussy heaven.

we started at obs, as is my custom, but the girls weren't in yet @ 7pm and no boarde types were lurking in the corners, so ll advised abe of his new rules for the non-purchace of ladies drinks and then we vamoosed to the other side of the tracks. all of the clubs were attended, albeit briefly since we didn't want to blow all our funds on drinks. we did sit at 69 for a short time in order that ll be able to present a small gift to his girl melody. no other girls were even considered. a quick peek at bolerio and i spotted bw's little princess and was assured my selma hyack girl would be arriving soon. i made mental note that if obs bombs, we would return.


as with the tour the night before, my charge wished to take in la conga before returning to obs. methinks the lure of $80 poontang was a major influencing factor. the llqfr© was about 20% with the presence of two models in 10 that would do. carla was "busy" when i arrived, and escorted to me when she finished the lucky bastard. we talked for a while and solidified out date for 3am at my room. pdub found the other girl who he could play with, i guess he too was being the gentleman and not fucking my girl in my presence. ed, take note. :p since carla, in true girlfriend fashion, had been admonishing me to reduce alcohol intake, i opted for orange juice. when pdub went to the room, i released carla to ply her trade while i drank oj from the other end of the bar. when she succeeded in seducing the first guy she sat down with, i waved at her when she passed and ordered two shots of el jimador, reminding myself that she would be mine later tonight.

somewhere in the mix pdub earned my eternal gratitude by loaning me enough extra funds to bag an extra lady. ll vows it will not be wasted. back at obs, i found it was not a slow night. sara, jungle girl (molina). bedroom eyes (paulina), crystal, lorenia, jeresey and nicole were there. i was feeling as if i had fucked the whole *****house, or at least the half that i wanted, it was a bit ethereal. pdub was trying to make up his mind, with lorenaia and paulina leading the list, molina a close third. ll was trying to decide between crystal and paulina, having been with sara earlier, and lorenia twice this trip. nicole was permanently busy with a guy dumping his $$ into her ladies drinks for like three hours. sara came out of the private areas, clothes in hand. ll ordered a shot. then it happened, sara came back out of the dressing room, told ll she wished the other guys would leave her come to me, but she would be back soon. "i want you tonight." ll is in no position to say no to a lovelos girl who wants to fuck him--the others will have to wait for another trip... oh, did i mention that sara, one of the busiest girls at the bar, is in her second trimester? tits and tummy are a bit bigger than in feb, she is still smoking hot, but she will not be at the bar much longer for health reasons.

pdub and ll played some pool, sara helped ll by diversionary tactics when pdub was shooting. he never once complained about the distraction she was causing. he is obviously a man of steel, since he actually was able to sink a lot of those shots while staring at her pussy. ll was a man of steel also, but we all know what happens to men of steel around kryptonite--ll became a man of putty. pdub made a surprise move and picked a hot number with whom ll did not have carnal knowledge. he asked my opinion, and all i could say is she looks highly fuckable but he would have to find out for sure. with that, he retired to the bedroom with ciemana. ll informed abe it was time for him to earn his tip and get sara out of the bar and back into his bed. he did so.

our session was interesting; we didn't have a lot of time since she was still on the obs clock. little ll seemed to satisfy some inner need for her, as she was quaking after a long doggie session. when little ll finally spit, there wasn't much jizz left, at least not enough to satisfy sara that she had done her job, so she manually took ll to a second release. omfg, what a woman!!

back at obs, it was time for goodbyes, which as pdub noted in his report, took a while since ll had a lot of girlfriends that had been passed over this night, and i wanted them to know i wanted them to fuck me brainless next time i get to nogi (without saying in exactly those words). they have no clue as to just how close to brainless i already am... after a time of getting rid of a particularly tenacious tout, pdub and i parted at the border, and i retired to my hotel with us$10 in my pocket plus carla's tip. when she arrived at 3am, i was already asleep, and recalling the lack of jizz issue, i tried to convince her that the morning would be better for sex. she said "ok" and proceeded to disrobe both of us and cuddle up beside me. it worked, and we were fucking like monkies within fifteen minutes. her ability to blow my mind no matter how late, how many previous pops, nor how drunk i am never ceases to amaze me.

sorry those that wanted to come and didn't make it missed the festivities. there will obviously be a next time. bw, bb, and ll have a lot of research to do. note to self - put in for a research grant from the gov't...

lovelos

swmbo = "she who must be obeyed"
lovelos quick fuckability ratio ©2006 lovelos
smwslt = so many women so little time ©2005 lovelos and laxman #2

Mugroso
05-08-06, 13:39
You see, its like this.

First off, I need to go to Acuña when I get the chance to check out the zona there for inclusion on my website. I hear that small town is wild and would love to go for business and pleasure.

Second, Friday afternoon, for some reason I had a bug to head west to Nogales. I don't know why but I had an out of body experience at work and found myself in Obsessions and Lord Black. I resisted and did not go.

Third, LoveLOS's posts and pics are no help. I have been to Nogi 3 times and loved it everytime. It is a great change of pace from Juarez and its been a year since I have been.

Damn it, this isn't helping, I may head that way this weekend anyway.

The Filthy One

(This post is intended as humor, no offense intended keep up the good work)

KC Questor
06-21-06, 20:00
If you had to choose between one evening/night in Nogales and one in Juarez, which would you choose? I'm a first timer in both those cities, but am very comfortable in Tijuana and other destinations. My Spanish is passable but not fluent. Also, it would be a Saturday night, and I will have a car if that makes a difference.

I realize that this is a very particular question, and that people reading this forum probably have a fondness for Nogales. But still, anyone have any comments on which one of the two I should visit? I COULD, if necessary, visit both, but that would add an extra day (and cost) to my trip that I would rather not if I could avoid it.

Of course I have read over both forums, but I don't recall any comparisons between the two cities. So, what are your thoughts?

Ed...
06-23-06, 00:29
Well, the forum has been dead so why not.

Juarez is more cost effective but who cares if its one night. It is also better equipped with the massage deal but nogi has that of late as well. If you speak Spanish well, either place will yield the good time with the cab ride or the possibility for the ever elusive part timer.

Nogi can consistently deliver a hottie night in and night out, rivaled only by TJ. It also has the sharpest claws of all of the border towns to rip into your pockets. But, It has the best strip club type party scene of any border town by far. Sat night is always a good time.

So, IMHO, a good relaxing f can be found anywhere. If you want to booze and squeeze in between, and could maybe be inclined to go for a closet quickie too, nogi rules.

Ed...

Blackangst
06-23-06, 17:07
Hi guys,

Long time lurker, and most of my punting has been in SE asia. This was my second trip to NG. The first was in 2002, and things have changed! Mostly twice the price. Anyway.

Parked behind the Mickey D's on the US side and walked across. Spent about 2 hours just walking around re-orienting myself. Stopped in a pharmy for a refill of Cialis. My God the barkers were annoying. If it werent for being outside the US I woulda floored one of them LOL. I was standing at the wooded park area near the border entrance and was chatting with a very nice barker there. I immediatley let him know I wasnt interested in him following me around all day, and he laughed and said no problem. After about 20 minutes of chit chat, I asked if he had a hook up for percocet (my only weakness). He said yes, and took me to a pharmy close by. The guy offered 20 for $45, which is reasonable. But as it turns out, it was the mexican version, neocet. No thanks. Struck out there. (If anyone has a hookup for percodan or percocet lemme know). Finally about 7pm I wandered over to Obsession. It was DEAD. Music playing, but no girls dancing, and only one other guy in a corner busy with someone. The guy I assumed to be the mgr was very nice, not real pushy. I told him I would return later. Wandered over to Club 69. My God the girls are gorgeous. Stayed for about an hour, drank a few waters, but decided not to pull the trigger as it was still early.

Next was Bolerio. Dead. There were two girls sitting on the couch at the entrance chatting, one playing video games, no customers. I immediately left, and made a note to return later.

Now it was about 8pm or so. Went back to Obsessions. There was a girl dancing, a couple playing pool with another punter, and a young guy sitting on the side. I sat down next to him, and we chatted. He was about 30, American, from Phoenix like myself, and his first trip. We made small talk (I told him about this board and said he would check it out), and the mgr brought 2 girls over (forget names). The first one was about 5'4, bleach blonde, not fat but not thin. She went to the other American. The other was about 5'0, light brown hair, about a B cup, and a fucking spinner. Gorgeous. (edit: after reading LL's posts, I believe this was Lorainia) I tend to like my girls waif-like, so was pleased I got her. The problem-I dont speak spanish, and she doesnt speak english LOL. Somehow we stumbled through 3 ladies drinks and 2 beers for me. She was fairly reserved, but had a fire in her eyes that made me immediately hard. Finally I decided with no english this wasnt going to happen. With all my time primarily in the Philippines, I have been spoiled by GFE. I'm not really into slam-bam-thank-you-ma'am. So this wasnt gonna happen. Too bad too. So I left.

I was getting frustrated at this point, which is not a good thing for a punter with a hard on. I tried out the eros massage next to Bolerio. There were 3 girls to choose from, and chose a tall blonde girl from Columbia. Spoke a little english which was fine. After a little negotiation we decided on 1.0 for suck/fuck. Back to the room we go. I told her when she came in I was actually interested in a massage also She worked on me for about 30 minutes, and it was so-so. She really seemed detached from the whole thing, and I never made a connection with her. After about 5 minutes of CBJ she mounted cowgirl style. Pretty tight, felt great, but again she was detached and almost mechanical. Tried a few positions, and I flipped her onto her back and started kissing her shoulders, chest, making my way to DATY. She stopped me. Twice. She also didnt let me touch her pussy. Finally, I doggied her for about 10 minutes, closed my eyes and thought of one of my many GFE's in Asia. After I popped, she was out of the room in a heartbeat. I quickly got dressed and left. Blech. I've had better experiences for the money in an AMP in the states.

Finally drove home about 11pm and total about 2.0 later. I dont know. Not real great. But I understand this hobby can be hit or miss, and truth be told I have had unusually good luck, so I guess I was due for a miss.

I will most likely give this another try on Fri night (6/23). So if anyone will be in town, email or PM me and lets hook up I'll probably get into NG around 5 or so, as I like to just walk around and get a feel for the energy in the town.

Also...does anyone know about getting a girl for overnight? Like I said Im used to Asia where you can barfine 'em. Possible in NG?

Tabolitz
06-26-06, 05:12
Your right Blackangst sometimes you get a hit or miss. Have not been back to Nogales since 03. Girls are just about the same in TJ. Detached and mechanical. I think if you do not speak the language it would also get you some setback. On the otherhand some are hot as a tamales!

I plan to go back NOGI on of these days. You may ask the girl for an overniter but it will cost you an arm and leg. But I prefer the PI since GFE are almost every corner.

Read my Rocky Point post. Just got back last week and have the same experience.

Ciao

KC Questor
06-29-06, 05:25
Decided to bite the bullet (re: my request for info below) and arrange to spend a night in both CJ and Nogi. Unfortunately, the only way that would work is Saturday in Juarez and Sunday in Nogales.

So the next question is: what will I find open in Nogales on this Sunday night? I heard that Obsession is closed, and that was my first choice following LoveLOS's reports. Is anything else open with the elections?

If anyone else is planning on being in Tuscon on July 2 and wishes to ride down together, PM me.

Explorer8939
06-29-06, 19:27
Normally, federal elections require that bars be closed and no alcohol be sold over the weekend. Is this still the case for Nogales for July 2?

Joe Hunter
06-30-06, 02:08
Normally, federal elections require that bars be closed and no alcohol be sold over the weekend. Is this still the case for Nogales for July 2?I have read some of the local papers from San Luis, and "Ley seca" will be implemented all over the state of Sonora. As far as I know, the only border town that will have alcohol will be Mexicali in Baja California. Why would the border towns not sell alcohol on the gringos? We don’t want to vote, we just want to enjoy our Coronas.

Ed...
07-01-06, 22:27
Well, it will be interesting to see how KCQuester's trip goes!

Wild Wind
07-04-06, 22:00
I'm heading down to Nogi this Thurs night and I'm looking forward to a good time the way I like to have it there - which is mostly "booze and squeeze" as Ed calls it - I enjoy playing with the naked tits of as many good looking girls as possible - that makes a nice evening for me these days - I'll do an occasional table (Cherry's is a good value for the money) or privado (Placers, Bolero, Lord Black or Obsessions) but only if I think the mileage will be worth the $ - I get an amazing amount of boob-play from dancers with a buck at the rail - hardly anyone tips there so the girls seem to appreciate it - and they'll often come to see me after they get off stage and are sometimes quite passionate just sitting next to me or on my lap - great way to see if a privado will be enjoyable.

My trip to Costa Rica last year spoiled me for sex with beautiful young Latinas at reasonable prics in clean pleasant surroundings. So for me Nogi is just a fun place for "booze and squeeze", and anything better that happens to come my way there is all bonus.

KC Questor
07-05-06, 01:48
Nothing interesting to report. Skipped Nogales entirely. My CJ report is in that thread. I picked the wrong week to try a new town. In SD this week and will just visit the old faves in TJ.

Wild Wind
07-09-06, 05:11
well i had an interesting and mostly successful evening in nogi last thursday.

arrived about 8pm, and my usual first stop, cherries, was closed. not closed in the sense of “not open”, i mean closed like boarded up and lookin’ like it’s out of business. cherries has gone progressively down hill since i first started going there in the late 90’s, (does anyone remember leslie?), but i could still count on it for some raunchy fun with nasty girls. i had come to rely on benjamin, who has been a waiter there since my first visit, to always set me up with the chicas who would give great mileage. maybe its’ closing is just temporary (didn’t pay off the right people). if not i’m going to be sad to see it go. anybody have any info on the situation?

so i changed tactics and launched the evening at bolero. i have become friendly with a guy who works there named carlos. he speaks good english (spent time married in wisconsin but got into some trouble there and had to come back to mex). carlos wasn’t there and the talent was undergoing a shift change. (always interesting to see them coming and going out in their street clothes – most of them look a lot better in their dancer get-ups and some of them you wouldn’t look twice at on the street). i had a beer, tipped three or four dancers at the rail in exchange for the brief boob-fondle and kiss that i enjoy, and moved on, figuring i’d hit it again later.

a tout picked me up immediately outside the door and wanted to take me to studio 69, in the former lipsticks. i had stepped in briefly on my last trip and it was dead, but i figured i’d give it another try and i’m glad i did. after he told me “$4 cover” i insisted on “no cover” and he immediately said “ok” and i whisked past the cover-charge girl at the desk inside the front door and found my way to a table (with tablecloth) by the raised dance floor. 69 is more upscale than boleros, with a lot of “guys in ties” trying to get you to spend $. the girls generally don’t come to you, you have to ask a tie-guy to bring one to your table. the talent is the best in nogi, though. i was very impressed. all 7-10 in my book.

the first dancer i saw was a stunning dark haired beauty named zafiro, i’d guess she’s 23 years old. i starting doing my tfk (tip-fondle-kiss) routine at the rail and she was very appreciative and cooperative. when she came out of the dressing room after her set she took a seat at the bar with most of the other girls. since i was the only person who had tipped her during her set, one of the tie-guys went over and told her to come see me, which she did, sitting sweetly in my lap. over the course of the next 20 minutes she allowed me to fondle her fine c-cup boobs through her thin lycra top and feel her ass and legs as much as i liked. the tie guy was pushing chica drinks of course but not as aggressively as at placers, etc. so 20 minutes of enjoyable contact only cost me 1 chica drink ($12 i think). good value. the tie-guy was also trying to upsell sex and was very explicit about the deal there. he explained that i could get anything i wanted from any dancer, “private dance, blow job or full service”. zafiro just smiled and nodded. he said they charge $70/hour for the house and the girl makes her own deal with me.

being still early in the evening i only succumbed to the temptation of a $23 privado, but negotiated for 10 minutes instead of the typical 6. the booths at 69 are a bit nicer than other clubs, with a cushy padded seat instead of the more typical crappy chair. the booths are in a line along a private dead-end corridor (so much for fire inspectors). we sat in the last one and zafiro gave great service. i love fob (“feasting on breasts”) and she was fully compliant, straddling me front-ways, allowing me to feast to my hearts’ content and fondling my equipment the whole time. she even snuck the snake out the leg of my shorts a few times for some skin-on-skin stimulation. we enjoyed some hard humping too and she got into it with some loud squeals. so loud that the tie-guy had to come back to make sure we weren’t already fucking. i passed on the attempted post-privado upsell and returned to my table, encouraged by the talent and eager to see what other honeys might appear.

an annoying trend in many of the clubs is the long wait between dancers. at 69 it got extreme sometimes. even with 10 girls standing or sitting around they waited as much as 10 minutes between performances. no excuse for that imho.

i watched about 8 other dancers and tipped all but one, who was actually the cutest, hottest, youngest one (didn’t get her name but she looks asian) because didn’t take her top off while dancing. this was a trend i noticed at several other places during the night, too. i hope this trend does not continue!!

the club got busier while i was there with about 30 or 40 guys at tables by the time i decided to move on. it’s a good place and i hope they continue to bring in top talent.

once outside i did a quick run up the stairs for a look into nasty-nasty ferni’s but it was still pretty dead. so i headed to the next-best place for nasty mileage: placers. i blew right past the group of guys at the entrance and strode through the door. i never pay cover! inside there were only about 10 patrons so i knew i’d attract attention as fresh meat. i sat at the rail and sure enough within about 10 seconds i had a slender babe all over me, pulling her bikini top aside and thrusting her nipple into my mouth. i had to come up for air to order a beer. of course the waiter asked if i wanted a drink for the girl and even though i declined she stayed on my lap. she was very frisky and had her hands up inside my shorts legs and her nipple back in my mouth as soon as i finished ordering. i ended up buying her a tequila ($11) and then doing a privado ($23). she was begging for me to spring for a blow job and dropped her price to $30. but the house still wanted $50 and i was watching my budget, so an $80 bj was not in the plan, although i’m sure she would’ve done a good job. the privado was high mileage and a lot of fun.

back downstairs i sat at the rail again i enjoyed another beer and did my t-f-k thing with about 6 more girls. all were very accommodating, including the famous monserrat, who’s natural dd’s are a wonder to behold, and hold! for a buck at the rail she gives you unrestricted access with face and hands. amazing!

then 3 girls in a row didn’t take off their tops and i figured it was time to leave. quick stop in lord blacks but it was like a morgue. so back to ferni’s, which was finally busy.
i sat at a table, ordered a beer and waited for the “auditions” to begin. one after another, each girl would approach and sit next to me. i would feel their boobs and check out their face and the friskiness of their attitude for a few moments, and when the waiter asked if i wanted to buy them a drink i’d make a decision based on that experience. if i said no they’d immediately leave, making room for another one. if i said yes, they’d hang out for 10 minutes or so and play with my equipment while i fondled, nuzzled, did whatever i wanted. based on that experience i’d decide if i would go further. that night i bought drinks for 2 girls and took one for a privado.

the first girl was (for ferni’s) relatively slender and fairly attractive. she spoke some english and had fantastic big boobs that i really enjoyed fondling. but she was joyless, and i got the vibe that she’d be very mechanical in a booth.

the second girl was actually one who hadn’t taken her top off onstage. but when she came to sit with me she peeled back her top and let me lick her nipple right away, so i forgave her earlier transgression. she was delightful, fun, cheerful and quite playful, so we made it to the $20 privado booth. she had the best boobs of anyone i’d encountered all night (and by that time i’d probably felt 25 girl’s tits that night). solid youthful c cups with great suckable nipples, soft and long. perfect! the booths are directly across from the bar so they provide no privacy, and have the crappiest chairs in nogi, but i was in heaven. afterwards, figuring i had tasted the best ferni’s had to offer i moved on for a second round at bolero’s.

again i strode in with no cover, took a seat at a table and ordered a beer. i didn’t see carlos but in less than a minute there was a chica on the arm of the chair. she was very elegant, with almost china-white skin and very smooth long black hair. a lot of make up but looked really good. sitting on the arm of my chair instead of in my lap should have been a signal i recognized as “cool low-mileage professional” rather than “passionate high mileage latina” but the beers and my string of enjoyable experiences were blurring my better instincts. a tie-guy appeared immediately and offered a 2 for 1 privado, and i bit. it was the worst of the night. she would not remove her top, only pulled the cups to the side so that the tips of her tits stuck out, and never let my face near them. that does not provide much opportunity for a breast-feasting aficionado like me. then she proceeded to check my watch every 2 minutes for all 12. and the whole time she was pitching me for “sexo” non-stop. like i would spring for big bucks to be with her!

afterwards i took another seat, directly on the rail, and enjoyed some warm and affectionate tipping with 3 or 4 other girls to get that one off my mind. out of nowhere, carlos appeared at my side. i shared my tale of woe and he apologized for not seeing me earlier and warning me away from her. he offered to set me up with a fine new girl who is a high mileage provider, but unfortunately it was already 12:45 and i was at the end of both my time and money budget. so i have that to look forward to next time.

heading out i figured i’d hit lord black’s one more time and see if there was anything happening. i’ve had some good times there in the past. there were 2 patrons with 2 girls, 2 other not very attractive girls sitting by themselves, and one ok chica on stage. i sat at the rail and she immediately climbed off the stage and into my lap in the middle of her song. she was drunk or high or something. she slid my hands up under her top and as i fondled her she tried to convince me to go upstairs for sexo, squeezing my unit through my shorts. but she could hardly talk so i knew that was a nightmare waiting to happen. so i amused myself with her tits for a few more minutes, politely declined her advances and made my leave. what a night!

made it through border security, although the woman guard was very interested in what a guy with an east coast id was doing in nogi at 1am. i just smiled and said “tourism”… that’s my story and i’m stickin’ to it. she shrugged, i walked through, and was fast asleep in my tucson hotel by 2:30.

editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread.

Joe Fab
07-11-06, 01:31
Henry Miller would have had nothing on you. I admire your use of the language.

All newbies should read your posts. The strategy you have with regard to setting and adhering to your self-imposed limits is so important. I think a lot of our fellow hobbyists would deign to admit they settle for less, drink too much and pay more than what they know they should.

Cheers,

Joe

SexHobbyist
07-18-06, 00:01
Wild Wind's report is terrific but it brings some bad news, if true. The demise of Cherry's is troublesome. I've had some great memories of the place--in particular the chicas. Cherry's was the first club I ever visted in Nogie. It was always the easiest on the pocketbook, too. Alas. Sigh.

I hope it's just a temporary closing.

Real Romeo
07-21-06, 19:37
Great Report! I'm moving back to Az in the next month. Your report filled me in perfectly on all the action in Nogi. Cherries was the first place I went on my first trip there about '99 or so. Too bad if it's gone, but I'm sure the neighbors will pick up the slack. My experiences in Nogi were hit or miss, as I'm VERY picky. Anyway, thanks again for the great report.

While I'm here, Anyone have any experience with providers of any kind in Rocky point? I rented houses 2 times down there, but brought my own entertainment down with me. :) . Only wandered out briefly for food and alcohol. Only saw regular night clubs. Are there strip clubs down there? Thanks in advance for any info.

Be Safe

Azrobert
07-24-06, 07:29
I haven't been to Nogi in a while, just seemed to be getting to expensive. Went last week and did have a good time. Cherrys does seem to be closed but I never really liked it even though it was the first club I ever visited there.
Club 69, the old Lipsticks is indeed a really nice place. Nicer than many of the clubs here in Phx but I don;t think it iwll last. It is too nice and too expensive, My buddy got a $10.00 table dance and my thought was that I could stay in phx and get more action from a table dance. Boleros and Placers seem to be the hottest places around and my two favorites. The prices are still way too high, the rates for FS are more than a girl from CL !!!
We need to stick together and refuse to pay and the prices will drop. All in all it was a great trip though and will go back soon.

Ed...
07-24-06, 18:18
I agree Azrob, but "we" just aren't enough.

There's a pile of newbies all the time in Nogi, who feel they don't go that often and are getting an OK deal. They like to flash cash like MR Cool Guy of the day when really they are merely MR Chump of the night.

They must feel the need to compensate for being an un-attractive loser by paying more cash.

We can help by resisting at least a tiny bit. We'll still get laid no problem. I would like to think it helps when we ask the price for the room in back and decline.
It definitely helps to negotiate with the girl yourself in the room. She'll often take a lot less when nobody else working knows so she can let the others think what they will.
I also know it to be helpful to visit Conga, and politely decline if you see nothing you like. They will (and do) try harder to find your girl.

No offense to big spenders, just my point of view on how you look to everyone else.

Ed...

Escorpio
07-27-06, 08:23
Cherries is still open.

SexHobbyist
07-27-06, 17:38
Ed is right.

It's my policy to say "no" three times. If the price keeps coming down after each "no" then on their fourth pitch I counter with half their asking price and negotiate from there. There are plenty of chicas in Nogie that will do what you want for the price you're willing to pay.

Also, Friday and Saturday nights are harder to negotiate than any other time during the week. Accept the fact that some of the chicas will not take what you're offering on those nights and be prepared to walk. Keep trying the other girls in the club...you never know just how lucky you'll get.

Amigo69
07-31-06, 06:01
I have not been to Nogi in the past 8 months. I agree that there are some real hotties at Placers and Boleros. I agree that the prices are way too high at any of the clubs. Way out of control. The high rollers are ruining Nogi. The last time I was there, Conga was the only place where you could even get a half way good deal. That is why I only go to Mexicali now. If you live in Phoenix go to Mexicali instead. It is not that much farther.

Mexicali is a bigger city and thus much better variety and more clubs. Also I feel more safe in Mexicali.

I agree that in Mexicali you can't walk to all the good clubs but the taxis are cheap and I don't mind driving myself.

Also Mexicali has some other nice things to see when you are not busy Mongering. I like to go to watch the Aguillas play baseball and go to some top notch boxing bouts. Also there are some super places to eat.

Read the Mexicali forums.

Amigo69

Muffdiver21
09-28-06, 09:58
Went to Nogales on Wednesday. Got there about 5:00pm, then checked in at the Hotel 47. Got some beer and water at the grocery store for the motel room. Then decided to go to Bolero's.

The day shift was still on,several really good looking girls, however they had all obviously had sex during the afternoon, so I went over to some other clubs looking for fresh girls coming in for the night shift.

Went to Placers, it is really sad for me to go there, because when I first started coming to Nogi, it used to be the best place to go. Has not been kept up the way it was 4 years ago, the girls certainly are not as pretty. A person could have sex with the cocktail waitresses a few years ago. I never see any now. That bedroom upstairs was the Holy Grail to take the awesome girls. Now the place seems 2nd rate.

Then went to Club 69 and found one of the girls that had been talked about on the Forum. Zafiro her name is. Showed her this site on someone's Internet connection. They all loved it.

Ended up at TD Obsession's. This is where it gets really good. Saw 5 blonde American girls sitting at a table. Then somthing happend that I had never seen in Nogi before, the girls started to get private dances from the female dancers. It was awesome to watch them come out of the private dance room. Some where kissing the dancers on the lips afterwords because they needed that female empathy after what went on in the rooms. I loved every minute of it.

I myself got a fresh girl who came in, before anyone else had a chance. I paid $160.00 for 40 minutes in the bedroom. She was incrediable. Best deal you can get for young great looking pussy in Nogi.

Somone made a incorrect report, because Cherries is still opened. However Lord Black's was closed on this night. They also have a new 2nd floor on the Club across the steet from the Colonial motel.

Mugroso
09-28-06, 22:22
Then went to Club 69....

It has been over a year since I have been to Nogi. I don't recall a Club 69. Where would I find it if I went this weekend?

Thanks in advance
Mugroso

2nd Chance
09-29-06, 03:04
It's been over a year since I made the trek into Nogales, MX. I'm planning a trip to Tucson and was thinking of crossing over and checking it out again. Am I going to need my passport to cross over?

My passport expired in Nov 05. My buddy doesn't have one but has his Birth Certificate. What's the rules about "how far" I can go in without a passport?

Thanks!

Escorpio
09-29-06, 17:02
It has been over a year since I have been to Nogi. I don't recall a Club 69. Where would I find it if I went this weekend?

Thanks in advance

MugrosoIt used to be Lipstick's.

Escorpio
09-29-06, 17:07
It's been over a year since I made the trek into Nogales, MX. I'm planning a trip to Tucson and was thinking of crossing over and checking it out again. Am I going to need my passport to cross over?

My passport expired in Nov 05. My buddy doesn't have one but has his Birth Certificate. What's the rules about "how far" I can go in without a passport?

Thanks!No passport needed. Just have some I.D. (driver's license is fine) and speak english without an accent. If you plan on going further south than Nogales get a tourist visa. You'll need a passport or birth certificate for that. You'll see the tourist info place as you walk into Nogales.

2nd Chance
10-04-06, 00:03
escorpio, thanks for the info on req'd ids for crossing into nogi. i confirmed it at the border before crossing over... just to be safe.

i took my wingman with me and crossed over into nogi around 11:00pm. time was short, as the clubs close at 3am. had to do some rushing to get in some visits and to do a review.

we decided to try the club 69 since it was newly remodeled. actually, i was more interested in seeing the upgrades. bad choice... i should have read more reviews. as before, the $5.00 covercharge included a free shot of tequila. they have some updated loung-style chairs, the removed the old private dance booths on the south wall, and they don't use the upstairs booth for the $10 lapdances anymore. club 69 was rather quiet so we were hoping to score some discounts, but nothing. there were about 12 semi-cute girls but nothing to brag about. all around 7's. as mentioned earlier, the $10 lapdances are on the ground level. they were nothing more than bikini dances with no contact. my wingman paid the $23 for a private and got some touchie-feely action but it was all above the waste. oh... special props to hector, the night boss... he offered us 2-4-1 private dances because it was slow... i took him up on one but decided to move on after that.

as we left, we were lured, by a street hustler, to the massage parlor right next door. it's about 1:30am now, but we decided to check it out. we peeked in and saw two girls. pretty average. one with blonde hair, the other with dark hair and those nasty drawn in funky eyebrows. both had average bodies (as best as i can tell since they were clothed). i would give a quick 6 rating. the massage rooms were very typical to what you find in arizona. soft music, candle lit, large padded tables with a towel covering it, and a coat rack. we asked to negotiate first before paying the $40 room fee. i got the girls to come down from $120 + room fee for a bj, down to $60 for bj and the $40 room fee. total: $100. although the 40 min massage with oils and hot towels and them freely touching you sounded appealing, we passed on the whole damn thing. we weren't really vibing with the chicks and time was running out.

the street hustler saw us coming out and we told him that it was too expensive. he offered to take us to a bar south of lord black, which had some common street girls. he said that it would be $60 and the girls have their own place. no time limit. it sounded too good to be true (or safe) but we had to see what the girls look like. it was late so only 2 girls were in the bar. both were in their mid 20's and had pretty average bods. actually... they were just average. i'd give a quick 6 rating. fearing our dicks would fall off... we opted to try out one more topless bar.

for future reference, he said he had two sisters. one 19 and one 20, that works together or separate. no discounts but it may be fun to do two sisters at once! have to think really hard on this one...

at now 2:00am and we got lured into boleros. better! there was no cover charge. the dancer drinks were only $11.00. the $10 lapdance were at your seat and they were topless and full contact. there were about 9 girls and most were pretty cute. about 7.5s. we picked a couple of cuties and had some fun dances.

after a couple of dances into it, i spotted a curvacious 28yo blonde named sophia. large natural boobs, plump in all the right areas, and very touchie-feely. she doesn't offer $10 dances or stage dances. so, i did the $23 private. i breast-munched, touched below through g-string, and got a titti-fuck through my shorts. she really liked me sucking on those awesome nipples. she really got into it. sophia spoke decent english and we talked quite a bit after returning to the table. we had great rapport, which lead me to ask for another private dance. this time i got all that, and fingered her until she was dripping. the club is now closed. if i had time for 2 more dances, i'm confident i could have talked her into a real titty-fuck and maybe even some pecker kisses.

it was only sophias 3rd week as a stripper. she does offer fs for $180, and i'm confident that that can be negotiated down.

my wingman was really set on getting some extras. he negotiated a $93 blowjob, which included all fees. unfortunately, he couldn't get wood due to 6 dos equis. ha ha... limp-dick! lol.

all in all, boleros made the night worthwhile (for me, lol).

i will have to try it with her again in a couple of months. we hit it off quite well. of course, ymmv.

i'm attaching a bodyshot of sophia from bolerios.

Frankfurter
10-22-06, 03:56
Maybe this is the last trip to Nogi for a long, long time.

Makes me sad, just a little.

Cherries, which used to be my favorite hangout years back, is only a pale shadow of its former self. Malva, the cute tranny with the great knockers is still there, otherwise the place is pretty much deserted. $20 gets you into this one horrible little stall right across from the pool table, another $50 is for full service incl. BBBJ upstairs.

I called Tommy, who works out of her house these days for an appointment the next day, she said she would call back, which she didn't. What's wrong with me? (She was on her way to Cabo early next morning, maybe that was it)

Anyway, good bye, fellow mongers, have fun, although I must say, I had probably more fun, say, five years back or so.

2nd Chance
11-22-06, 06:48
Malva, the cute tranny with the great knockers is still there, otherwise the place is pretty much deserted

Cute tranny?!? WTF? Sorry to be a basher, but damn! I just swallowed my own barf... :(

Muffdiver21
11-24-06, 06:34
topless enforce danish speed limits

apparently those living in denmark have a care free attitude about a lot of things including speeding so the danish road safety council thought it was time for a different approach to enforce speed limits. the country now has speed control bikini bandits. yes. it's exactly what it sounds like except the bandits seem to have forgotten to wear their bikini tops when holding speed limit signs and urging drivers to obey the limits.

have fun with this witty campaign approach to speed control but if your boss doesn't like you watching naked women holding speed limit signs while shaking their boobs, you might want to properly angle your monitor before viewing.

graphic film:

http://www.speedbandits.dk

SexHobbyist
12-03-06, 15:19
A friend and I found ourselves in Nogales on a Saturday afternoon. We arrive about 3:30. Our first and only stop was to Bolero where we found an active group of chicas. As soon as we sat down a couple of them came and sat on our laps and began playing with the equipment. I am of the opinion that if the dancer is giving you an nice johnson massage then I don't want to discourage that activity. So, to keep her going, I bought her a drink. I don't mind spending the $10 for ten minutes of lap cuddling and hj. After the drink we did a private (still $23). In the private, we played, she tried to upsell me to do fs ($160 negotiated down to $100), I didn't buy it, but had a lot of fun just playing with her and her playing with me. I did this same routine with three sets of chicas. The last chicas wasn't a chica at all. She was from Phoenix and dances at Bolero on Saturdays. What a magnificant body! All natural perky full 36d, tall, cute, right attitude. This time when I went to the private, she proved that she had no gag reflex and that she was talented in so many ways. I deferred going to do the fs, but arranged to meet her in AZ.

Saturday afternoon at Boleros was a good stop. All the chicas were attractive and all seemed to have the right idea of customer service. It was a fun way to kill a couple of hours.

Once again, however, the prices for fs were outrageous. I've posted about this before. Other than negotiating and saying "no," I'm not sure what else to do. One of the dancers wanted 80 for a bj, which is out of the question. You can get fs for nearly that in one of the Tucson clubs and save yourself the drive.

Sexhobbyist

Praise The Loard
12-05-06, 01:28
Did I just read $93 bjs + 40 room charge and $180 for FS? That is insane.

For that price, you're better off buying a plane ticket to somewhere better and enjoying something nicer.

The good old days of Nogales is long gone. This place should just fold up now.

Muffdiver21
12-07-06, 23:34
Went to Nogales Wed night for some action. Got there about 1:00 pm, then went directly to Bolero's. Was told by the manager to get a room at the new hotel Pancho Villa; which is one block up from TD Ferni's on the same street or behind Placers, depending on where you are walking.

Had already gotten a room at another place, but decided to check it out anyway. It allows girls, rates are really good, with nice look to the overall building. $30 dollars for a single, $38 for two beds. I am going to stay there next time.

Now it was time for some girls, picked one from the incredible day shift at Bolero's. They have a bed next door and so does Cherrie's, because your not suppose to have one in some of these clubs anymore. It was $175.00 full sex for 40 minutes.

Went back to Bolero's for the night shift, The bed was taken, so I took a girl to the Hotel 47. This cost me $260.00 for 2 hours. Was very impressed with the quality of a few chics at Bolero's, both day and night shift. You definitely save money going in the day if its not crowded.

Amigo69
12-08-06, 03:21
I am glad I go to Mexicali. I can go to El Establo and BSD and get chicas that are 7 and 8"s for fs for $ 50 for 40 minutes. I used to love Nogi but wow you can get good pussy in the US for less than $150. Anyone been to Conga lately. What is the going price there for fs.

Amigo 69

Munch Lunch
12-10-06, 22:55
First time to Nogi next weekend. I am assuming Nogi, like most border towns, is bi-currency. Are dollars accepted at brothels, bars, hotels, restuarants, et.? Was planning on taking $1s and $5 bills for tips, drinks, etc. But was going to visit a bank or casa de cambio in Nogi to get larger denomination peso notes for things like hotels and restuarants. Is that even necessary?
Thanks,
M.L.

SexHobbyist
12-14-06, 16:24
First time to Nogi next weekend. I am assuming Nogi, like most border towns, is bi-currency. Are dollars accepted at brothels, bars, hotels, restuarants, et.? Was planning on taking $1s and $5 bills for tips, drinks, etc. But was going to visit a bank or casa de cambio in Nogi to get larger denomination peso notes for things like hotels and restuarants. Is that even necessary?
Thanks,

M.L.I've never had any problem in any Nogi establishment with spending dollars. I've never owned a Peso in my life. Personally speaking, I think they prefer dollars.

Sexhobbyist

Mugroso
12-14-06, 23:28
I've never had any problem in any Nogi establishment with spending dollars. I've never owned a Peso in my life. Personally speaking, I think they prefer dollars.
Sexhobbyist

I think Nogi is a very dollar oriented town based on my few times there. I noticed a difference between Juarez and Nogi. In Juarez it is cheaper to spend pesos whereas in Nogi prices are a bit higher in the end if you pay in pesos. Its been over a year since my last visit, it is still the same in regards to pesos vs. dollars?

Mugroso

DarkRum
12-15-06, 07:18
Did I just read $93 bjs + 40 room charge and $180 for FS? That is insane.

For that price, you're better off buying a plane ticket to somewhere better and enjoying something nicer.

The good old days of Nogales is long gone. This place should just fold up now.Never were truer words spoken. The good ol days are long gone. Might as well take your chances in Phoenix or Tucson.

Was there (Nogales) twice in the last 3 weeks and it's criminal for this place to not find any activity for under $100 in the clubs worthwhile. There used to be an abundance of quality and that is gone. And now average (and that may be an exaggeration) action is way over priced. And add in the "set-up" fees (drinks, cover charges, taxi, hotel, tips for everone who wants to walk with you) that accompany procuring a decent woman for an hour or dare I say a night. And this is way more an expensive proposition for less.

It was rarely that way in the past

Sure I know places like La Conga exist who besides 2 or 3 girls who have been there forever and its hit or miss whether they are there or not is barely worth the $10 rt cab fare.

In any sexploration in a place like Nogales. There is something else you need to bring with you when you enter the country besides money. And that is luck. I am sure people have there ol' faithfuls but other then the few over priced clubs. It just doesn't seem to be worth it unless your in one of those "gotta have it" moods. And price is not an object. More power to you.

I am more surprised that this pricing structure has persisted for atleast a year or so and longer. Maybe unbeknownst to me the economy of Nogales is booming and ladies are making money doing other things. OR. There is a great influx of visitors who are willing to overpay and keep the dream alive for the woman and the clubs to keep asking these high prices compared to other places not only in Mexico but internationally.

I know the locals aren't footing the bill!

This place is way off scale. Maybe thats why the activity on this board has diminished.

I am sure it comes out reasonably cheaper to take a Southwest flight rt for $70. 00 to San Diego from AZ, take the bus and trolley from the airport for $5. 00 and go to Adelita's in TJ where the quality is exponentially better and the pricing is apparently half as much for what you get.

Sorry, had to rant a little. Nogi used to be one of my favorite low key stomping grounds. It's Sad now.

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Que Bueno
12-24-06, 15:53
Never were truer words spoken. The good ol days are long gone. Might as well take your chances in Phoenix or Tucson.

Was there (Nogales) twice in the last 3 weeks and it's criminal for this place to not find any activity for under $100 in the clubs worthwhile.

I am more surprised that this pricing structure has persisted for atleast a year or so and longer. Maybe unbeknownst to me the economy of Nogales is booming and ladies are making money doing other things. OR. There is a great influx of visitors who are willing to overpay and keep the dream alive for the woman and the clubs to keep asking these high prices compared to other places not only in Mexico but internationally.

I know the locals aren't footing the bill!

This place is way off scale. Maybe thats why the activity on this board has diminished.The prices in Nogi don't make sense to me either. In theory it makes no sense to go to Mexico and pay quadruple the average local weekly wage for a single hour of FS. I'm still trying to figure out why it would be so much higher there than in other towns along the border. Here are a few theories.

1. I've seen numerous times on this board and others that there are always some (many) gringos who go abroad and are completely ignorant of local wages and prices and are only too willing to pay the same they'd pay in the US. This tends to push prices up. But this doesn't fully explain the Nogi phenomenon since then one would expect all border towns would have similar prices.

2. Nogi is a relatively small town in the vicinity of several large US cities so it's possible that demand (from the US) greatly exceeds local supply, allowing local providers to push up prices drastically. This theory doesn't quite hold up either since if that were true, according to basic economics, when demand goes up, supply will tend to go up as well to meet demand. Providers would be making Nogi their destination of choice which would have the effect of lowering prices.

3. There may be something peculiar about local market conditions It may be that most of the clubs are owned by the same individual or group of individuals. In this case they can basically corner the market by creating a local cartel or monopoly and are able to set their own prices. This is known as a market distortion because it renders basic theory of supply and demand inoperative.

One way to test this theory is to find out how much independent locals are willing to charge for the same service. If the price in the clubs far exceeds that then one can assume that the clubs are engaging in a price-fixing scheme and blatantly ripping people off. (I don't suppose we can complain to the Mexican equivalent of the FTC? )

My best guess is that theory #3 is most likely correct but perhaps someone intimately acquainted with local conditions can shed some further light on this.

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Munch Lunch
12-25-06, 07:30
Que Bueno,
I will be adding a bunch of reports soon; but wanted to complement you on your analysis. #3 is correct. They create a monoply with the zoning and public use permit process. The two or three business groups that control the club scene in Nogales work the political system with the support of conservative political factions (including the Catholic church and civic organizatons).

They launch campagins to "clean up" Nogales and make it "family friendly", it makes good press in the newspapers and it helps polliticos get elected. Also, they can effectivly "condem" properties "de facto" and keep people out of the business. I have business dealings in Sonora, especially Hermosillo, and that is where at least two of the big business groups active in Nogales club scene are from. They know exactly what they are doing.

Thus, you end up with "privados" booths with no curtains or doors. That is why half the buildings in the "zona" are vacant or used for other uses. That is why it is hard to get the girls from the big clubs to come to your hotel room after hours - they are forbiden too. That is why the girls have to sign strict contracts to work in the clubs; these contracts really control who and where they can screw for dollars. Etc. etc.

The going rate for independents is $50/hour as I will soon post my experience with one. However, there are few in the "zona" in Nogales because the thugs of the "big boys" do their best to chase them off. We end up paying way too much, good girls are kept from offering their services, and the club girls get a very small fee split. We all get screwed.

I may not have every detail above exactly correct, but that is what I have been able to piece together from working a lot down in Sonora over the last five years or so.

M.L.

DarkRum
12-26-06, 08:39
[QUOTE=Munch Lunch]Que Bueno,

I will be adding a bunch of reports soon; but wanted to complement you on your analysis. #3 is correct. They create a monoply with the zoning and public use permit process. The two or three business groups that control the club scene in Nogales work the political system with the support of conservative political factions (including the Catholic church and civic organizatons).

Thanks for your insight. Munch Lunch & Que Bueno.

It's just remarkable to me to see the scene here deteriorate in the last few years.

In my recent visits, I have seen fewer and fewer americans (club meal tickets) and I can't remember the last time I saw a packed club

I used to look forward to making the drive to Nogi on my trips to the Valley of the Sun because there were reasonable options a plenty.

It's hardly worth it to me anymore, and as you stated. Its hard to find an independent. One even remotely worth the $50 you stated.

With all the political manuevering that is or maybe involved with this. The bottom line is $$$ from customers like you and me. And I can't imagine that the "over-payers" that ride into town flashing wealth. Will supplant those driven away by the high transaction cost on in many cases average at best product. Over time.

My hope is that this simply a trend and not the way of the world for Nogi for now on. I believe most things are cyclical when it comes to escalating expenses and prices from the owners and declining revenue for the owners and dancers.

I believe (I hope) the bottom line will always be money. And if there is no volume (money) for these woman. They will find a way to create there own independent engagements. ADVANTAGE US! I hope.

Again, thanks for your commentary and insight and I look forward to your subsequent reports.

One more question. With the theories presented. Why has the pricing at La Conga remained the same forever? Also, is there a different pricing structure with these woman for locals then tourist? Or more apt the question is. What is the different pricing structure for locals? (If anyone knows)

With fewer and fewer people crossing the border. I can't imagine a local paying the 100, 150 or 200 offered. And if they aren't. I think some desperation would have to be setting in for the ladies

Thanks

Scott Bknaz
12-28-06, 06:07
You get what you ask for I tried but you people would not help me.

Went there when I first got back out here. Bye the way posted several years back as Scott. 2-4 years ago. Been off this site for awhile. Back now and in AZ. Went to nogie when I first got back and it's not changed since I left. When I first started going It was such a delight, not as many clubs but you could get a full service girl for 60-65 in the clubs. Lord blacks had the princesses. A year or two after that I started hearing this $180 # and found this web site at about the same time. I got into a pissing match with a couple of people about this on this site they removed post I did not Don't know if they are still there. What I was told is that they wanted to keep the riff raff out. So with that said it hasn't changed I don't think It ever will. You have people coming there and really think it is the right thing to do (paying 180)), So there is a market. With a market prices either go up or stay status quo. I will go there for a good lap dance nothing more and what I do like doing is telling our waiters when there come up with this 180 room and girl. Is. You can get hot Mexican and American girls right across the border free or less just need to now who to ask. I know them.

LaConga thank you for the old forum. Yes a dirty little hole in the wall with lots of bad looking girls but if your patient takes two beers sometimes brush away the girls you don't want. There are angels that will come to your rescue. Thankyou bartender Only been there four times had one girl two times and different girl other time all were hot 7 and above looks 8-9 in attitude. Normal girls in La Conga looks 2-3 to show where I stand.

Didn't check it out when I was there I was so disappointed with this 180 crap at all clubs.

On why La Conga would stay the same It's off the beaten path. Most people are intimidated by the location. I'm going down to check this out if it is still the same it will be worth every penny you have. I have never had nothing but pure pleasure there. My princess even told the bar guy don't knock again I'm not through. Makes you cum that much harder.

They really do have some good lap dances down there. Makes me always go to TJ after. Words. Finally getting out to stay away from here. Maybe get better. I will be going to TJ on Fri after the first anybody want to share a ride let me know. Share a ride not room. Stay with as long as you like in Mex But I often stay late 2-4 not so late Sat drive back early Sun.

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LoveLOS
12-29-06, 06:20
QB,
I too have to agree that your analysis of the Nogi scene is correct, except that while #3 is prevalent, you also have the supply/demand issue working in their favor. The clubs do seem to have a lock on the fine ladies, and the street meat is fucking scary. I agree the prices are too high, but given the choice between a true hottie for $200 or a disease ridden common thief for $25 there is little choice in my mind.

Gentlemen, there has to be a middle ground. The laws of supply and demand virtually require it. They are out there. It is our job to figure out how to reliably locate them. There are several angles I hope to explore during my upcoming week in Nogi:

The first four involve creative solutions within the structure of Nogi scene.

1. Getting as many girls out of the clubs as possible. Meet them before they go to work, meet them after closing time. This does require you becoming a "regular" at the club.

2. Consider LaConga. Scott is correct that if you say NO to the hogs that haunt the place, have some patience, good things will come. He is also correct about the gems. Again, knowing a gem or two and/or knowing the owners well enough to have them call the hottest thing on thier list requires some investment of time.

3. Hunt Hunt Hunt. Taxi drivers can often find you semi-pros that are mid quality and great prices, but you do need to have balls of steel to head off the beaten path. You have been warned.

4. Work to establish a known, internet published, network of quality freelancers. Any web operators want to host a free site similar to the L.o.N. site, or perhaps work to get Craigslist working in Nogi?

The remaining solutions hinge on the supply/demand part of the equation. Find supply elsewhere lowers demand, and should cause prices to go down.

5. Check other local border towns. I will be doing this with Ed on at least one night next month, but since I am a non-local, I will be spending most of my time where my previous time investments will pay dividends. :D You locals have some choices that are maybe 30-45 minutes more drive time than Nogi. And need I say anything about TJ? Only problem is that when you have an evening, Nogi is the closest from Tucson, for example.

6. Consider the USA. Not much of a street scene (zero) in Nog AZ. Why? Tucson street scene, IMHO, is pathetic compared to Nogi. Got to go to Phx to beat it. Pretty much same goes for escorts and AMPs. go to Phx.

The strip club scene is roughly equivalent in quality and price to Nogi, except sex in the VIP room is the exception rather than the rule. (You guys must read SexHobbyist in Tucson USG board, my kudos).

So what is the solution? Whining about prices doesn't get it. Why don't we go to Nogi, get somewhat intoxicated, do some research into the matter, or at least fuck a chica or two, and contribute to our carnal natures.

As is my custom, I have an open invitation to meet and party with board members in Nogi when we come west. It may contribute to inflation, but the inflation and subsequent deflation of our little members is the immediate goal. PM me here or to LoveLOS on USG board (preferred) if you would like to have a drink or even do a Nogi tour. I'll give you dates we'll be there and contact info.

Happy New Year All.
LoveLOS

SexHobbyist
01-02-07, 16:39
Nogales has a lot of bars where chicas hang out that aren't your traditional strip clubs. Locals and gringos can pick up nice talent in these establishments, many of which are next to the more well-known bars that we all know. These bars are overlooked because of their close proximity to the fuck palaces. Dates can be had for well less than a benjamin ($50-$70) from these places. It requires getting a room at a nearby hotel, but, hey, it's a room with a bed, not a closet; and it's full service for an hour, not 20 minutes on a bench.

The only drawback: knowledge of Spanish is helpful, but not required.

Sexhobbyist

Ed...
01-03-07, 04:25
Some of the girls in those bars are dancers hanging out for various reasons, mostly good.
Some are drug addicts in desperate need of money, the dealers are close by, thats mostly bad.
It's not hard to tell the difference, and worth the time to down a beer, but then I've been moaning that about Conga for many years.
There are many others in there not hot enough to dance, too young to work the clubs, or without health cards(they are busted just as often in the non dancing places as they are in them).

I guess I'm trying to say I agree wholeheartedly on the angle, SH.

Scott-I remember your posts back then! The riff-raff stuff offended us all since it came out a bit pretentious, I believe I replied that I was indeed one of them myself. But- truer words where often spoken, since the clientèle just changed to the same 'ol riff raff ******* types but with more cash.
It was a good effort to inform. I've been trying to comment on the Nogi dollar crunch, for years, but as great as this forum is there's just no way to effect a change here.
Have you been to Canada? Victoria Secret models for less than a club girl in Nogi. I wouldn't say the cost of living there is less than Nogales, yet the p4p market is smokin good!


LOS- I have full confidence you'll be able to secure la Lista de Craig on your annual sojourn. What a legacy that would be!

There must be one individual in town to share your vision, maybe little pimp is still around. Or, perhaps we could perk up the obvious barkeep friend. if he knows the value of calling Carla then he must understand the beauty of email hookups cross border. Hmm, that could work. He'll do a great business that wont effect his local action, and he'll be so grateful for the start up help that he'll secure our unlimited free panoche' on arrival! (like how I moved in with the 'we'?)
Looking forward to your visit, I'll b back from a four day fucfest the second.

jon

SexHobbyist
01-03-07, 19:19
With the current situation in the clubs in Tucson, there is no reason to travel to Nogales. For what you'd pay in Nogales (up to $180 for fs), you can get for almost half that price (almost, not quite) in Tucson clubs if you're a regular monger. Nogales has priced themselves out of the market. I remember the old days when it was the opposite, pricewise, and Nogales was always good for a fun romp. Drop a few dollars in the third-world country and head home. Not any more. It's just not worth it if you live in Tucson.

The Friday and Saturday traffic to Nogales from Tucson has evaporated. No need to go there any more.

Sexhobbyist

Munch Lunch
01-04-07, 02:42
I live in Phoenix but have always stayed away from Nogales and gone deeper into Mexico for mongering. However, I had to be in Sonora, Mexico two different weekends this December to help out some relatives there. Each weekend I had a Friday night free for mongering and stayed at the Pancho Villa, before heading on south into Sonora on Saturday.

BASICS: This hotel just opened a few weeks ago, it is very “chica” friendly, and is located right in the “Zona” to the east of the railroad tracks. Most of the TD clubs, MPs and bars are just a few steps away. The address is Calle Elias #55, and the phone is 31-2-87-90. Singles are $30 (USD) and doubles are around $37. You also give them a $10 deposit for the TV and heater controls, which they refund to you at check out. It also has good hot water showers. If you need a quiet room, ask for one in the back that does not front on the street. My room was clean, the double bed was comfortable, and it was safe; all for $30. I think some of clerks speak some basic English; but, I don’t know, because I speak Spanish.

GETTING THERE: It is just a 3 -5 minute walk from the border. Actually, because it is a multi-story building, you can see their sign from the American side of the border. As you walk down the ramp toward the turnstiles into Mexico, look up and to the left - you will see the hotel. Immediately after crossing into Mexico, take a hard left, stumble your way across the railroad tracks, and turn left again on the street that contains Placers and Boleros. Then, in a few steps and take the first right on a very small alley like street. The hotel is right there on the next street behind the clubs. (Ignore the damn touts who want a few bucks to show you the way; it is very easy to find.)

OTHER: All the help is very friendly, honest, and decent. Once, during the night, I could not sleep; so, went down to the front desk and visited with Angelica, the night clerk. (She is not for sale.) Then, the owner wandered out from his suite. He told me all about how he came to the US and worked, saved money, went back to Nogales and built this place. During our hour and a half conversation many mongers, all of them Mexican, wandered in an out with their “chicas”. You don’t even need to register and pay for two people. This hotel was designed for mongering; but, no prostitutes live on the premises nor do they offer to hook you up with girls. The owner was a very nice guy.

M.L.

Munch Lunch
01-04-07, 02:44
Suffering from the DSB (dreaded sperm build up) I went to Cherry’s, around 4:00 PM, Friday, and there were only about 4 girls sitting at the bar or various tables. Most were either fat, ugly, or there eyes stared back at me blankly. Then, I saw “Rebecca” dressed in a white bustier, white stockings, and those “just screw me please” 6- inch, crystal, see-through, high heels. She said she is 32 years old, but showed few signs of wear. She is dark skinned, has dark eyes, 5’ 7’’, dark brunette hair, very slender, A-B cups with very nice nipples, and those full, luscious lips painted bright red.

Damage:
My drinks: $3.50 x 2 = $7
Her drinks: $11 x 2 = $22
Privado: $21 + $2 tip = $24
Sexo: $150 + $10 tip = $160
Total: $213

Benefit:
One and one half hours of great conversation.
More than an hour of great sex.

Recommendation:
While I loved this and Rebeccca was a fine woman, Nogales clubs are way, way too expensive. For example, in Tijuana, a solid 9 comes regularly to my hotel when I’m there on business. It is never more than $100 USD for 70 minutes or $150 for two or more hours. As I recently posted in the Veracruz, Mexico thread; I could have done a “Rebecca” for $65 - $70 USD there. South America is dirt cheap if you like Latinas.

Pricing:
Guys, please hold off on flaming me on the price. If you go to a Nogales club on a Friday or Saturday night, these are the prices. In fact, you would likely pay more at “69”, Placers, or Boleros. I didn’t over pay. If you want “cheap”, Nogales is the wrong venue.

M.L.

Munch Lunch
01-04-07, 02:47
I crossed the border around 3:00 PM on Friday, checked in at Hotel Pancho Villa, showered up, and started to prowl. After checking out a couple of upscale clubs, I wandered into Cherry’s, which is toward to lower end of the local TD scene…just my style. At that time of the day, 4:00 PM, there were only about 4 girls sitting at the bar or various tables. Most were either fat, ugly, or there eyes stared back at me blankly.

Then, I saw “Rebecca” dressed in a white bustier, white stockings, and those “just screw me please” 6 inch, crystal, see-through, high heels. She said she is 32 years old, but showed few signs of wear. She is dark skinned, has dark eyes, 5’ 7’’, dark brunette hair, very slender, A-B cups with very nice nipples, and those full, luscious lips painted bright red. She has several small tattoos, and a large one on her upper arm that says “Alejandro” in honor of her best friend who was shot to death. Rebecca is a regular there; so, some of you may know her. She was excellent for me; but, as we all know your mileage may vary.

She invited me to sit down, I ordered myself a drink, and we began to talk. After we had a good vibe going; I ordered her a drink. Then, she installed her beautiful trim bottom my knee and wrapped her arm around my shoulder. As she lowered the bustier my hands and tongue soon found their way to her warm breasts, which she accommodatingly rubbed in my face. My other hand did some bottom fishing.

I sampled her drink and found it was straight whisky; she said she didn’t like anything watered down. The surprising thing was that this girl liked to talk and she and the waiter were not pushing the drinks. After the typical formalities we found that we both had similar literature interests and favorite authors, like Gabriel Garcia Marquez. (God, isn’t this sweet, just like a college date? Actually, when not screwing, I do actually read literature in Spanish.)

Right then, I knew that if I was going to get the best out of this girl, it was going to be through first connecting with her intellect. (What the hell, I thought to myself, this is like a real date; except I know for sure I’m going to get laid….if I brought enough money.) We talked our way though various books and just kept warming up to each other. (This is great; a well-read hooker!)

She was very responsive and eventually ended up sitting on my lap facing me, with the bustier pushed way down exposing her breasts completely and the g-string off to the side for my viewing pleasure. She caressed my Johnson, through my jeans, and once in a while ground her snatch into my crotch. Then, her hands slid under by shirt and started working my nipples. I was a little surprised that I was getting this far for only one ladies drink. I have paid for table dances before which were far less than this.

Munch Lunch
01-04-07, 02:48
I ordered a second round of drinks for us, for which she thanked me by leaning over and giving me a warm juicy full mouth kiss, and then another, and another, while perched on my lap.

After more than an hour of literature and fondling we were both hot and stared to trash talk. I asked her, “on any given weekend, how many times do you get a marriage proposal from her clients?” She said, “at least a couple of times each week, usually just about the time the guy is cumming.” I said, “I’m not even that far along and I already want to marry you.” She said, “Honey, you can take me to the altar anytime you want.” (For a brief moment, my mind played with that thought: “Hi love; how was work last night?” I decided to pass on that fantasy and concentrate on literature.)

Then she suggested a “privado”. I said I would be delighted, but the time just goes by too fast in a booth, when you are with the one you love. I counted out $21 USD and laid them on the table, but kept my hand on them. She said, “look, its early, there are no other paying customers, you are a lot of fun; so, I’ll give you 2 or 3 songs for the price of one.” I nodded, smiled, and kissed her. The waiter walked by, I handed him the money and off to a booth we went.

In Cherry’s, the booths are right there in the bar, toward the side, and are open with no doors or curtains. But, that did not inhibit Rebecca. The bustier and stockings quickly came off, leaving her only in a small g-string. She danced, then wagged her ass in my nose and asked if I was really orally gifted. I started licking and kissing her round globes till they glistened, with my tongue outlining her delicate ass crack. If it hadn’t have been for a Center for Disease Control (CDC) advertisement going through my head, I would have rimmed her right there. But, it was defiantly an ass worth worshiping. I was beginning to feel like a literary giant.

By the end of the first song, she forgot all about literature, sighed and swung around to face me. She said, “Let’s see if my magic is working” and she reached down, unzipped my jeans, pulled out Johnson and the twins. Then to uncage them further, she slid my jeans half down my butt for better access. She then, pulled her g-string aside, fingered her clit a few times and then mashed her **** against my half hard Johnson. Then, as Johnson grew and became unruly, she sat him aside upright and ground against the twins. As my heart pumped she turned around and lowered her crack right on Johnson. I dry humped her ass as the second song came to a close and my grasp of Spanish literature failed me.

(My mind was going crazy, I was thinking, “What the hell: is she going to fuck me in a privado, open to everyone to see?) I then pulled her face close to me and we had a passionate wet kiss. I said “Honey, its time to talk business. But, as a gentleman, I don’t want to have an unfair advantage over you. She smiled and laughed, while I placed her hand on my engorged cock and told her to convince me that we go to a room. She began to stroke slowly. I said, “We both want it; so, give me your best price first and I’ll let you have what you want.” We both smiled knowing full well who wanted what and who was in control.

Munch Lunch
01-04-07, 02:50
After a few strokes and her pussy lips exactly one-eight of an inch away from my Johnson; she leaned forward and said “I’ll marry you for $100 for me; plus, $50 to the house and a total of 40 minutes. I said, fine but I’d like a longer honeymoon. This time of day, you are not really busy anyway. How about, I tip the “Tio” so he doesn’t come knocking on the door for at least an hour. She smiled and squeezed Johnson and said “trato hecho.” (Done deal.) I told her she was a wonderfully convincing, business woman. She jerked me a few more times and then we dressed and left the booth.

I paid the $150 all to the waiter, Rebecca took my hand, and he escorted us up some stairs, to a row of dingy rooms. The only furniture was a small sofa, or ottoman like thing. I have seen “privado” rooms which were nicer. Meanwhile, just outside the rooms in a surreal twist, there where cooks slicing up vegetables on big tables. Both the tables and cooks looked like they belonged in a mechanics’ shop. One waved a knife at me, smiled a “missing teeth” grin, and deftly sliced a whole onion in half. We both laughed as he saw that I got the joke with an “ouch” expression on my face.

I turned and told Rebecca and the waiter “thanks but no thanks; I can’t perform in this setting.” Being a great actress, she looked sad and asked the waiter to take us to the hotel. (They own the Hotel Andres, an hourly hotel, right out back.) He said no problem, down the stairs we went, and my love went off to change into her street cloths for the 10 second trek across the street. When she returned, she was even more radiant than before, in tight black slacks, low heels, and a green silk blouse. (The look was just right for, my increasing frequent mental fantasy of the moment, “Hi Mom, “guess who I brought home for Sunday dinner? Do you like my fiancée?”)

So, out we went, across the street, and up the stairs. The waiter grabbed a couple of room keys from the clerk, and started looking for an open room. The first one he opened turned out to be occupied, with a cute chica moaning en acto flagrante on a groaning client. The waiter quickly pulled the door closed, and we all looked at each other wide eyed and then laughed. (I apologize if I disturbed one of you guys!) The next door had a round hole drilled out below the door knob, obviously left over from a previous lock replacement job. I said “No way, I don’t want anyone spying on Rebecca and me on our honeymoon.” Rebecca held me close and said “you are so sweet.” (In puta speak that translates to “your good for a hefty tip.”) Finally, to the third room, which was very basic, had a comfortable, large bed, and was just fine. On the way in to the room, I tipped the waiter $5 USD and told him not to knock too soon. He turned on the lights, adjusted the curtains and handed us a roll of toilet paper for wiping up. I had Rebecca tell him again, not to disturb us for at least an hour.

As soon as the door closed, we both quickly stripped. We had already had nearly and hour and a half of foreplay in the bar and were ready for action. It was BBBJ and ball licking, she took them in her mouth, which she did well. Then on with the condom and her mouth slid, way, way down Johnson; she gave excellent head. She said that was her favorite activity and it showed. After a while in heaven, I put a dental dam on her pussy and licked away. (My mind cursed the CDC; God how I wanted that pussy juice on my face!)

Then, we went into mish for penetration and honeymoon consummation. She had one of the tightest pussies I’ve ever had, and it took us a few minutes of slow working to get all of me inside. I asked her if she wanted some lube, and she said “No, I want to feel all of you and it’s more sensitive without the lube.” I wasn’t complaining.

We then went through the regular four or five positions, each one with her transitioning, smoothly from one to the next. Her “perrito” was excellent. Like a good professional, she could sense my intention and responded nicely. (In everyway, this was total GFE for me: that is, if I could ever find a GF who could screw this well!)

Then, right at an hour the knock came. She yelled out. “Were coming and will be out in a minute.” She facing me, sitting on my legs, and I told her to take off the condom and jerk me. She started in: first with one hand, then the other, then both. After a few minutes I sprayed out the two weeks worth of cum I had been saving. She wiped me up, lay beside me, and hugged me for another ten minutes. The band in the billards bar, down stairs started up and we laughed about being serenaded. Then, and we got dressed. I tipped her a $10, and told her a book title to purchase.

We then walked downstairs, arm in arm, and I asked for a restaurant recommendation. She pointed be to a little sea food “loncheria” just around the corner. We hugged there on that dark, cold street; she crossed and entered the bar. The waiter walked me the half block to the open fronted restaurant named “Marlin de Mazatlan”. He then shook my hand; wished me well and left. As I was eating a fish taco (while all the while fantasizing about Rebeccas taco), the lesbian dike security guard from Cherry’s wandered in for carryout and recognized me. We said “hi” and chatted while she waited. As she left, I told her to say “hi” to “mi novia, Rebecca.” She said, “Sure will, I heard you guys talking about books.”

I highly recommend Rebecca for the Nobel “Piece” Prize.

M.L

Munch Lunch
01-04-07, 02:52
Sorry guys, I posted these "bass ackwards". If you want the long winded version read them in reverse; starting with "1", then "2" and finally "3"
M. L.

Munch Lunch
01-04-07, 02:56
i honed in on one of the girls (maria) that was incredibly good looking, slender, young, with jet black hair and fairly light skin color. she had a spooky, gothic look to her. she peeled off her black jacket to reveal a fake leather black halter top and mini skirt. they did not at all match with the platform tennis shoes she had on. (i haven’t seen platform tennis shoes in years.)

anyway, i asked her to join me for a drink at a table. to which she responded, sure but i gotta go [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) first. she walked over to the ladies room, which was already occupied. she banged on the door and told them to hurry up. she then came back to the table where i had sat down and i told her to order a drink. she said, no i want to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140). i looked into her eyes to see if she was drunk or high, even hookers rarely use that kind of language with a stranger. she didn’t seem high, but just blunt and had a bit of an attitude. nevertheless, i decided to go for it.

i just came right out and told her, well you can come back to my hotel, the pancho villa, and [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) there. she said, “yah, that’s better than waiting for that ***** to finish putting her makeup on.” she said you got $50 on you? i said, “if you have an hour of free time i do.” she took my hand and almost seemed friendly. don dinero, caballero poderoso.

then we just walked right out of the bar; there was no bar fine. on the way out, irlanda grabbed me and asked me laughingly why i was cheating on her. we laughed. walking the three blocks to the hotel maria began to tell me about her services. basically, gringo, you get to do what ever you want with me for one hour for $50 or $75 for two hours, i take your money, but i’m not your damn girlfriend you know.” i laughed and said, “sounds fair to me.”

i tried to small talk a bit, but she wasn’t interested in chit chat and cut me short. when we slammed the hotel room door shut, she unzipped my pants and gave me a few jerks causing me to get even more erect. (i guess, difficult women just turn me on.) then, she dashed to the bathroom yelling at me to follow. she shouted, i’ll bet you have never seen a girl [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) have you. i said, no. she pulled up her mini, with no panties, sat down and peed.

she said, look you, you got a hard on watching me [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134). sometimes i charge guys to watch me [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134), but that was a freebie. i ignored her attitude and suggested a shower. to which she said we don’t have time. i said how about 2 hours? she said show me the money and i fumbled to open my wallet and gave her $50; and said you get the rest after two hours; plus a tip if you work me good.

she stripped, threw her cloths on the top of the toilet tank and turned on the shower. she turned to me and said, “what are you waiting for? strip it off man...” so, i went back in the bedroom, stripped, threw my valubles in the suitcase case, locked it and locked it to the bed frame with a steel strap.

back in the shower she was washing up and i had her wash me up. i thought she was warming up to me a little bit, so i slipped my finger in her ass crack. approaching the holy grail, i asked her if she would do anal for a “propina”. she said “no way, man” and we finished showering up and toweled down.

in bed, i began caressing and licking her almost all over; she was just so gorgeous. then she gave me a fairly perfunctory cbj and mounted me in cg. we went through cg, rcg, doggie, and then into mish, where i popped. she was fairly responsive, but not excellent. she had lost the attitude, but wasn’t even close to gfe.

i looked at my watch and saw that we were almost at one hour. i was tired and knew she would not be worth taking for the full two hours. so i gave her a $5 tip and she left.

if you speak spanish and can handle the drunks that frequent these dive bars, then i highly recommend this route. some of the other girls there were just as cute a maria, but without the attitude. however, for the price this was great.

m.l.

Munch Lunch
01-04-07, 02:57
Having blown my wad, both of money and cum, with Rebecca of Cherry’s the previous weekend; I vowed to keep my budget under control. I arrived in town and checked into the Pancho Villa and hit Boleros, had a drink at the rail of the dance platform, and tipped a couple of “chicas.” Then, all of a sudden they cranked up the music got all the girls (about 10) up on the platform and they danced. The waiters went around selling “two for one” (double the time) “privados” for $21. I forked over the cash, pointed to a tall young girl, and the waiter helped her down the stairs to me. Then, she took my hand and we went downstairs to the booth. The booths are open on the front and all lined up in two, opposing rows, and in spite of a lack of privacy, I did enjoy seeing three other guys getting worked over by lovely lassies. My gal was beautiful, sensual, and let my hands roam at will. Her breasts were small, but had huge erect nipples which I loved sucking. After, two songs, that was it; so, I then just left the club. All the additional services were overpriced and the waiters were pushing the drinks hard. “Guys in ties.”

I then went in a “locals bar” called “Potros Cantina” or something like that. It has a huge 40 foot tall sign in front of it. This is on the same street and just a few doors uphill, deeper into Mexico, from Placers & Boleros. Upon entering there was not a gringo in sight; that was a good sign. Nor, was this an upscale Mexican singles bar. It is a dive where working class Mexicans goes to drink and connect with young hookers; if they are lucky enough to steal the rent money from their wives.

I sat at the bar, a comfortable two stools away, from a cubby but cute, 35 year old, Mexicana. I ordered a beer and chatted with some drunken Mexican truckers to my left. They were cool, and helped me gain acceptance in the bar; however, they were wasting my time as they just wanted to talk forever. Finally, I whispered to them “Hey, guys: look at yourself in the mirror behind the bar. What do you see?” They looked mystified so I said “What I see is two ugly Mexican truckers, one ugly gringo, and two stools down a beautiful Latina just waiting for me. Would you guys quite screwing with me so I can start screwing with her?” We all laughed, they gave me the thumbs up, and wished me well.

I then turned to her and started chatting. She was interesting, but definitely not into literature; so, I had to find something in common. She was humming the words of all the songs that were played. So, I bought her a drink and started singing too; because, I know the Mexican songs by heart. Then, she started singing with me. After about a dozen songs we had a good vibe going. The Mexican truckers leaned over and whispered to me “Hey, man, you’re here to screw not fall in love; they patted me on the back and left.”

Her name was Irlanda and she simply worked there as a drinking hostess; she was on duty until 3:00 AM and even then, probably not available for take out unless you were Brad Pitt. Then, at 8:00 PM, about eight young girls walked into the club, half of them were gorgeous, and stuffed their purses and bags over in a little cloak room to the right of the bar. Irlanda explained to me that these girls would be happy to go to my hotel with me; or, to a little hourly hotel down the street. The price was $50 for a full hour in a room. She said they would do anything I wanted. She called one of them over and introduced us; it was her sister. However, she already had a regular client lined up so was not available. Nevertheless, she did give my Johnson a nice squeeze through my jeans as a consolation prize.

Irlanda and I sang one last song together, and I gave here a gift of some miniature Arizona playing cards. Then she sent me off to the “brat pack”, (pandilla de mimadas) as she called them. Irlanda said a lot of these girls were just getting started in the trade as independents.

Munch Lunch
01-04-07, 02:59
by then, i had a raging hard on, so grabbed a condom, had her put it on, turned her around, leaned her over; and as she held on to the sink, banged her **** from behind. i was about to cum, but didn’t want to waste it; so, i stopped. in the shower we scrubbed each other up all over and enjoyed the steam. i pulled the condom off, as johnson had shrunk down. but, then i had her soap up, for the second time, johnson and the twins. she asked how come. i said that i wanted the hard candy to be nice and clean for her. she nodded.

washing of the suds, i turned the shower off and motioned for her to blow me. she knelt down and started licking the twins and johnson. as she sucked, a little pre-cum started to trickle out and she stopped. i said, please continue and mentioned that magic word “propina” (tip). (this word had the same effect as when i used to say, to my ex-wife, “don’t you need a shopping trip to the mall tomorrow?”)

then she went to work in earnest on johnson, when i was about ready to cum i said “por la boca o por la cara; eliges tu.” (take it in the mouth or on the face, you chose). she looked up and as i started to cum, she pulled off and said “cara”. i pulled her face close and shot, with some landing on her cheek and eyebrow. it was the money shot. then, i turned on the shower and we both washed off. i had her towel me dry and handed the towel to her. (the single rooms only come with one towel.)

on the way to bed, she snagged the coca cola and some crackers. i grabbed a beer and we sat together eating and talking. she did not seem to be nearly as smart a rebecca, but who is complaining? after brushing the crumbs out of the bed, i gave her a nice 25 minute full-body massage with hand crème. she thought i was being nice to her; but i was really just ogling her beautiful body. then, she massaged me and we started fooling around. eventually, i got hard again and we worked our way through several positions, then on with the latex dental dam and i started eating her. she loved that and either faked or came to an orgasm. later, she told me mexican men hardly ever eat pussy. i said it was my favorite mexican dish.

i tried to cum again by banging her, but couldn’t; so, i finished by hand and came on her tummy. she wiped off the goo and we lay down together. i told her if she would hug me till dawn i would give her a good “propina” and motioned to my pouch locked to the bed. she agreed; so, off went the lights and we slept for a few hours. during the night, i would finger her or have her jack me once in a while as we were half a sleep.

around 7:00 or 8:00 am, i woke up with a hard on, didn’t quite know who i was with or where. i rolled over on her and johnson was knocking at her door for entry. she said, “no, no, no… and reached into her purse and got a condom out. “ she put it on me, mounted me cg, but was too tired to stay up; so, collapsed on me as i banged her. the condom had the thickness of a michelin tire so i could not cum. so, i had her finish me again by hand.

as she showered up, i got my money out and put some soft drinks and food in a plastic bag, as she headed out the door, she looked even better than the night before. i gave her a the remaining $10 i owed her, the $10 tip and the bag of food. she peeked in the bag, pulled out her breakfast coke, and thanked me.

i closed the door and went back to sleep for a few hours. when i awoke i could smell her scent on my genitals. i smiled, dozed a bit, and was happy knowing it had not just been a dream. i showered up and checked out of the hotel by noon. this was definitely not the “hotel california.”

m. l.

Munch Lunch
01-04-07, 03:01
later that night, after returning to my room from talking with the owner and desk clerk, i still could not sleep. but, i had hatched a plan, having seen several good looking “chicas” coming and going with “clients”. so, dressed in my pajamas and being the literary type that i am, i wrapped myself in a blanket, put on my house slippers, grabbed my book, and sat in one of the chairs on the second floor stairwell landing; it was almost like a little sitting area.

on the coffee table next to chair, i placed a couple of soft drinks, a bag of potato chips, some chocolates in a heart shaped box left over from last year’s valentines day, and a roll of us greenbacks. (i would never try this in most places, but here it was safe.) i started drinking and snacking, while awaiting my prey. what i lack in good looks, i usually make up for by being a well stocked circle k store; hookers are always hungry.

sure enough, in about 15 minutes, a beautiful young thing with a flushed red face, and that “i just got banged hard” walk; left one of the adjacent rooms. when she saw me she became flustered and tucked the money that her client had just handed her into her bra. i looked up, said hello, and tried to engage her in a conversation. but, nothing doing; she went right down the stairs. i guess a bald, 50-year old in pajamas was just too threatening for her.

i turned the page, and began the next chapter. then, in about twenty minutes, a lovely girl and also a well camouflaged transvestite came up the stairs, arm in arm, with a fat mexican businessman. i nodded “hello” to the three of them and told them to behave themselves; to which they all giggled. two of the three, laughed with their adams apples bobbing up and down; i mentally crossed them off my list.

later, after another chapter in the book, a very young, cute, dark skinned, dark haired girl came down the stairs from the third floor. covered up in her winter coat, she didn’t even look like a working girl; however, at 3: 00 or 4:00 am on a saturday morning, why else would she be there? i doubted she was on her way to mass at the local church.

i said “hello”, pointed to my book, and asked her if she had ever read the author xavier velasco. she said “no; never heard of they guy.” i said, “could you tell me what this word means?” and pointed to the biggest word on the page, which i knew perfectly well what it meant. she tried to explain it, but was certainly no literary intellect like rebecca.

then, i saw her eyes land on my “babe magnates”. i said, “want a quick coke and chips? take a chair” as i waved to the vacant chair nearby. she looked around as if to ask permission from someone; seeing no one, she nodded, and then sat down. i popped the can open and handed it to her and slid the chips across the table. like most hookers, she was hungry and wolfed them down.

i slid the chocolates toward her and said “just a minute, let me get you another soft drink.” i turned and walked the few steps to my room, mentally calculating that if she tried to grab the money and run, i could tackle her before she got half way down the stairs. returning with a coke, a bottled water, some ritz crackers; i had given her the required 10 seconds to contemplate the final “babe magnet” - a money clip full of dollars.

she chose the coke, so i popped it open and gave it to her along with the crackers. she stared hungrily at me as she ate. we then exchanged about three sentences of senseless small talk. as the food and drink disappeared, the dollars seemed to stand out more on the small table. our eyes looked seductively at one another and then down at the dollars. i broke the trance by saying; i have a lot more “goodies” in my room and motioned to the still open door of my room. would you like some cookies, a beer, some canned tuna or some more candy.

she said she liked candy. as i unclipped the dollars and laid them flat on the table, i remembered they totaled about $40, in $1s, $5s & $10s; which, i had left over from tipping in the clubs the week before. emboldened, i said, “what kind of candy do you like; floppy, soft candies or hard sucky candy?” she responded by saying, the hard stuff lasts longer. i slid the dollars across the table at her and said, “i have another $10 for you; plus, tip money. would you like to shower up with me and stay for a couple of hours. she said, “yah, i’d like to shower up; its too cold to go outside now.” she pocketed the $40.

we stood up; she romantically took my hand and led me into my room. i showed her my well stocked wallet and said “i still owe you $10; plus, your “propina” (tip).” then, i told her to go ahead and turn on the shower; i’ll join you in a minute. as she was going “[CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134)”, (yes, the word is the same in spanish), i threw all my valuables into my steel lined safety pouch and locked it to the bed frame. i also jammed a small rubber door stop under the door. if she tried to slip out on me early, it would be nearly impossible for her to open the door.

i stripped out of my pajamas, turned off the bathroom light. in the soft glow from the bedroom light i gazed upon her young beautiful body. i asked her how old she was and she said 19 and that she had been working 3 years. yikes; somebody had been in the jail bait! i walked over, hugged her, kissed her on the cheek, felt her up, and my finger noted her crotch was still wet from the previous client.

LoveLOS
01-04-07, 03:31
Munchies,
Those fucking reports were wonderful. I loved the "lurk in the hallway" trick, that is definately creative.

It appears your favorite Mexican dish is the same as mine... :D

Your reports also provide a lot of insight into lower-cost Nogales mongering, which seems to be the topic of the month.

Hotel note: I have spent an hour or two at Hotel Pancho Villa. While it is adequate for the job and inexpensive, I do prefer a slight upgrade: Olivia hotel, very convenient to the zona--$42./24hrs. I have also spent time in the Granada, which is another slight upgrade to Olivia for the same price, but it is a pretty good hike from the zona.

LoveLOS

Let's do lunch, or a few shots, in Feb.

SexHobbyist
01-04-07, 19:12
Nice reports, Munch Lunch. Good details that add to our info about the availability and price of services. It sounds like knowledge of Spanish was a tool in your conquest. Alas, some of us are bilingual, but our second language is profanity.

Sexhobbyist

LoveLOS
01-05-07, 00:59
Nice reports, Munch Lunch. Good details that add to our info about the availability and price of services. It sounds like knowledge of Spanish was a tool in your conquest. Alas, some of us are bilingual, but our second language is profanity.

Sexhobbyist

Oh so true mi amigo, but the fucking third language is cash, which us understood by all.

LL

Scott Bknaz
01-10-07, 03:24
They be talking about $200-225 for a booth with a chair, And $200-250 for a room with a couch and chair. A couple of real hotties in there and I mean real hot. Oh this is only good thirty minutes. Went from there to Boleros. Sat with a fine very slender girl can't remember her name. As the waiter kept trying to work me for a room I worked him. Got him and the girl two agree to 50 minutes 2 rounds with her for 160. I laughed at this finished my drink went to Tucson. Got a hold of my Babe From eros. And had a real good time with her 200 for an hour and a half no rush service. Oh I did stop at La Conga It was just too cold in there, no heat. Didn't stay. Will be in Thialand and Manila next month.

Happy hunting and Good luck.

LoveLOS
01-12-07, 06:48
They be talking about $200-225 for a booth with a chair, And $200-250 for a room with a couch and chair. ... Oh this is only good thirty minutes. ouch!
Got him and the girl two agree to 50 minutes 2 rounds with her for 160.Whew, sounds plausable. The thing about the eros babe is just that the word "babe" is singular, not plural. :D Enjoy her!

Anyway, I was just wondering if US customs is requiring passports yet? There was talk of it last year, but I had not seen any comments that the requrement had been implemented.

Thanks
LL

SexHobbyist
01-13-07, 20:01
Anyway, I was just wondering if US customs is requiring passports yet? There was talk of it last year, but I had not seen any comments that the requrement had been implemented.

Thanks,

LLYes, passports are required for air travel effective 1/8 and for surface travel effective 1/21.

Must have a passport.

Sexhobbyist

Amigo69
01-13-07, 21:04
Go to http: //travel. State. Gov/ and you will see in yellow the requirements for traveling to Bermuda, Panama, Mexico, and Canada in yellow background. Click on this area of the page and the requirements for travel to these countries comes up. Starting January 23 2007 all travel into the US by air from these destinations will require a passport. Travel by land and sea may require a passport by January 1 2008. Its very easy to find the requirements. Also put in key words passport requirements into US.

Blackangst
01-13-07, 21:38
I was in Nogi last night and while coming back thru border I asked the border guard about passport requirements. He said passports arent required for land travel until 2008.

SexHobbyist
01-14-07, 04:48
Go to http: //travel. State. Gov/ and you will see in yellow the requirements for traveling to Bermuda, Panama, Mexico, and Canada in yellow background. Click on this area of the page and the requirements for travel to these countries comes up. Starting January 23 2007 all travel into the US by air from these destinations will require a passport. Travel by land and sea may require a passport by January 1 2008. Its very easy to find the requirements. Also put in key words passport requirements into US.I see the dates have changed. My friend in the passport section of the State Department says that there's been a huge crush of applications in Dec and Jan because of the new rules. He says it's taking up to eight weeks for normal processing. If you pay an extra fee you can get special handling and only a two week wait.

Sexhobbyist (I have my passport)

DarkRum
01-15-07, 08:41
With the current situation in the clubs in Tucson, there is no reason to travel to Nogales. For what you'd pay in Nogales (up to $180 for fs), you can get for almost half that price (almost, not quite) in Tucson clubs if you're a regular monger. Nogales has priced themselves out of the market. I remember the old days when it was the opposite, pricewise, and Nogales was always good for a fun romp. Drop a few dollars in the third-world country and head home. Not any more. It's just not worth it if you live in Tucson.

SexhobbyistWell Said Hobbyist. I have been doing the drive to Nogi from the Phoenix Area for many years, and within the last few years it is sad what the pricing structure and selection has become.

You mention similiar or lesser price alternatives in Tucson. I have never mongered in Tucson, mainly because I do no know where to go and the quality of woman or ease of access.

I prefer not to do SW or anything that might be a heavy target for a sting. Does this exist in Tucson? It sounds like it does but you just have to know where to look or who to approach and how.

Please share with me if you can. I know this is the Nogales thread..pm me if possible Thanks.

Wild Wind
01-15-07, 21:30
For Nogales, Placers is a good middle ground between the higher-end clubs (Studio 69, Boleros, Lord Black) and the rougher joints (Cherries, Obsession, Ferni's TD). No matter what I'm in the mood for I'll always devote part of my agenda to Placers. Last visit was on a Thurdsay night, about 9pm. Seems like they had about 20 girls total. Ranged from 5-8/9, but of course that's to my personal taste (i.e. slender, pretty, young, brunette, not too slutty-looking). The 5's and 6's weren't ugly, just older or heavier or trashier than I like. I always threaten to walk when they try to charge Cover and they always relent so I never pay the $3 and you shouldn't either.

I took my typical ringside seat at the round dance floor facing the front door so I can see who comes in and keep an eye on the door to the girls dressing room to see what new talent emerges. It’s always interesting to see a chica walk in wearing her street-clothes and see her emerge later from the dressing room in her man-hunting getup. When the contrast is a pleasant surprise it somehow increases my desire for her. Can’t explain it, and don’t want to try.

A “host-guy” always approaches immediately. They are usually friendly and often speak decent English. Their job is to get you to buy booze and to spend $ on chicas. A waiter appears quickly and the host-guy gets your drink order going. About half the time at Placers you’ll get a 2-for-1 drink offer. If they don’t offer it, always ask for it. They’ll usually comply or give you a later time when the offer kicks in. Depending on how busy it is the host-guy will usually sit and talk for a while before he starts in on promoting specific chicas. “You like that one?” Unless they’re a stunner I usually say no. Having a chica spend 1-on-1 time on your lap is one of the great joys of Placers, but it’s also when you start spending cash. And since I believe in free market capitalism I like to reward the initiative of the chica who gets up off her ass and comes to make a play for being the one on my lap. They’re also usually willing to be very frisky for the price of a chica-drink, and I like that. The ones that have to be recruited tend to be less interested in my pleasure.

In general, the un-hungry chicas hang with each other playing pool or in the dressing area or in 2’s and 3’s at the small round tables that fill the floor, while the hungry ones will move right in as soon as you sit down. There always seem to be these two distinct types at Placers and I can never figure out why. I think I would appear as a ripe target (well-groomed, decent-looking m-a gringo in reasonably prosperous-looking clothes) to any money-hungry chica, but there are always some who won’t even make eye contact. If I try to discuss this socio-economically-interesting phenomenon with a host-guy his response always tends to be: “which one you want?”, which is not the point. I don’t speak Spanish so I can’t really get into it with anyone who might enlighten me. So I just leave it as the natural order of things and let Darwin do his thing.

The reason I like ringside seating is that for all but the least attractive chicas, I will tip them at the rail. I always wait until the chica drops her top, then I’m first in with the dollar bill. They always dance at least 1 full song with their top on, and sometimes 2 if it’s slow and they’re doing 3 song sets. Very few men tip at all at Placers, so I almost always get grateful attention with my propina. It’s also a great way to get a sense of how frisky they will be in my lap or later in a privado, because as they take my dollar I reach up and enjoy a handful squeeze of their breast. If they brush my hand away they have forever lost my interest. If they willingly let me fondle then I maintain them on my short- list. Occasionally one will surprise me with a more aggressive counter-move, sometimes pulling both my hands onto her breasts or burying a nipple in my mouth. The it's "Ladies and Gentlemen, we have ourselves a winner!"

The wildest counter-move I’ve ever experienced happened on my last trip to Placers. A very fine-looking 9 was dancing quite energetically (as opposed to the sloths who trudge around the pole like its prison exercise). She was a slender brunette with a good face and a hot attitude. When she stripped out of her camouflage pattern top exposing her nice firm A-cups with tight dark nips, I quickly stood and leaned towards her with my dollar and my smile. She squatted in front of me, locked eye contact with me and snatched the bill. But before I could get my hand up to fondle her, she had grabbed my ¾-full beer and was vigorously shaking it over her head for the whole place to see. Then, bringing the bottle down to her crotch she uncorked her thumb from the neck of the bottle and noisily squirted the blasting jet of foam and brew right onto her snatch from about an inch away. Beer was flying everywhere as she rolled her head back in mock-ecstasy and the place went nuts. Returning direct eye contact with me she pulled the beer up to her face, swigged what was left and planted the empty back where she’d gotten it 10 amazing seconds before. I was blown away. She quickly stood and started dancing again like nothing special had happened and as the whooping and applause died down I sat back in my chair and thought: Man, you just never know.

She left for the dressing room and the waiters mopped up the residue from the dance floor for the next 2 songs. I was semi-drenched in beer and decided any follow up with her would be anti-climactic so I made my way out to the street and off to more Nogi-adventures.

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Wild Wind
01-15-07, 22:17
Obsession is Nasty with a capital N, but you can definitely have dirty fun there. I went as a last stop on a Thursday night tour, hitting it around 11:30 pm. Maybe 10 girls were in evidence. Tried a couple in the sit-on-my-lap routine but they were either porkers or 4-facers, and I like slim and pretty when I can get it. So as soon as I refused to buy them a drink they would move on. The best one in the place was sitting on a gringo’s lap across the stage from me. She appeared to be late 20’s and had the killer combination of a slender build and big tata’s. Pretty good face and nice wild-looking brunette hair. Although she was on this guys lap and drinking something he had bought her, she was eyeing me non-stop, so I knew all I had to do was wait. The gringo had that look of a guy who’d already had his fun with her and was just waiting for his buddies to be ready to leave.

Indeed, within 5 minutes they were moving out and she was heading my way like a heat seeking missile. Then onto my lap and immediately started passionately kissing my neck. I knew I was in for some fun. Her name is “Shayla” (phonetic spelling). And she is a highly recommended tigress.

I started feeling her boobs under her top right away and she started cranking on my shaft. No need to do the chica-drink formalities with this one. We went right to the privado area. The handler in the back corridor made the options clear, incl F/S for 45 minutes in a small room with enough furnishings to make it reasonably comfortable. I’m sure anyone who’s been there knows the room I mean. Being the end of the night and close to the end of my cash I opted for the $23 privado in one of the regular little privado rooms.

Shayla is smokin’ hot gentlemen!!! She offered lingual for extra once we were in but I didn’t want to waste any of the time I could be spending feeling her spectacular (and all natural) D cup boobs, so she turned her back to me, arched back against me, licked and sucked my ear and neck while I squeezed and fondled her chest to my heart’s delight. Meanwhile she shoved her hand down the front of my pants and made a heroic effort to make them gooey. Occasionally she would turn around and let me have at her from the front with liberal nipple sucking, and never losing her grip on the stick. We did two six-minute privados and I loved every second. Now that’s value. But with more dough, time and energy I think the 45 minute option would be worth the investment.

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Wild Wind
01-15-07, 22:57
Bolero’s has a nice atmosphere. It’s not as upscale physically as Studio 69 but is a step above Lord Black, which seems to be going downhill. My typical routine is to refuse to pay cover until they let me in (which they always do), then I sit against the wall to left of the door when I get in. That’s close enough to the stage to tip at the rail yet still have room for a companion to sit next to me or in my lap. Like most clubs, some girls are aggressive and some stay away. Bolero’s has host-guys who will get recalcitrant girls for you and will negotiate for what you want. They seem to be less pushy than at some other clubs (like Placers) and I like that. On my previous trips I had become friendly with a host-guy named Carlos, but didn’t see him on this visit. He may have moved on.

On this trip (a Thursday night in November, 2006) I tried a technique of asking my host-guy specifically for what I want a chica to do and having him shop the deal to the girls until he finds one who’ll do it. I was disappointed the first time with a chunky blonde chica who claimed she had no idea what I’d asked for, but it worked the other 2 times, perhaps because I learned to tip the host-guys AFTER the service to make sure it is delivered as advertised. Of course it’s better if you speak Spanish and can negotiate for yourself, but I don’t so I rely on intermediaries.

The 2 privados I enjoyed were with girls who were ready to DFK and let me FOB, while they handled the joystick, with a tip promised for a successful launch. It’s always interesting to see how a chica does her stickwork when she knows there’s some gold on the line. THey display endless variety and inventiveness in that dept. In warm weather I will wear loose legged shorts with elastic waist and most will end up going for some skin-on-skin to try to get that propina, but since this was November, I had khakis with no belt. Nibbling through the trousers was very popular this time around. Good thing the hotel laundry could get stains out!

Bolero’s is generally very productive for rail-tipping in exchange for a nice kiss and/or fondle. The thing I like least about it is the long wait between dancers. Sometimes as long as 2 songs with nothing on stage, and unless you are entertaining a chica on your lap at the moment it can be damn dull.

Overall I give Bolero's an 8 because it’s a pleasant, low-pressure environment, I have learned to work with the host-guys to get more of what I want rather than hoping for the best, and they have an above average cast of chicas, although no place has the monopoly, and any night can be good, bad or average.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Wild Wind
01-15-07, 23:16
I have read people asking and talking about the very limited street action in Nogales. I have been going for about 8 years and never saw any opportunity (other than touts wanting to take you to a room somewhere) until my last visit in November 2006. Leaving Obsession about 12:30am and walking up towards the main intersection where I planned to take a left and head back to the US, I passed 2 offerors in doorways about 50 and 75 ft from Obsession. First one was late 20's, and looked pretty good. I had walked past her before it registered on me that the direct look into my eyes with the little grin was really what it was. But just as it dawned on me, I saw the other one sitting in a doorway. She was early 20's and also looked acceptable. Price was right for that time of night so I did the deal. Through the doorway and paid some dude at a dimly-lit check-in counter. Up the stairs and into a little room with someone's stuff spread all over the unmade double bed (hers? who knows?). I stood for the ceremonies while she sat on the bed and satisfaction was achieved. Never expected I'd be reporting on street action in Nogi but there you go. Its available, affordable and satisfying. What more can you ask for?

Wild Wind
01-16-07, 00:09
Studio 69 is cavernous in comparison to all the other Nogi clubs typically frequented by horny gringos. Its 2 story-high main room and glitzy finishes and lighting make it feel like Vegas compared to the alternatives. The privado booths are clean with comfortable chairs and seem a bit bigger than other clubs, although they are still just open booths. The talent level has been very high every time I’ve been there. Last time (November 2006) I met and got friendly with Agustin (phonetic spelling), the guy who books the girls. His English is excellent and he was able to give me some background on the business. He says the girls come from all over Mexico and they will often travel around between clubs. He says about half have babies to support. He was helpful in picking out talent for me to take to the back room based on my interests. I went on 2 nights and Agustin found me an excellent hottie each night who agreed to high mileage for double time (12 minutes) for the standard $23. No complaints. Although enthusiastic, the girls were more by-the-book at Studio 69 than at nastier places (Obsession, etc). They would not go skin-on-skin w/ Mr Johnson but they did work him over actively through the fabric of my khakis, in one case doing a mighty nibbling job. Unlimited FOB was on the menu although no DFK. I didn’t ask for DFK specifically when I told Agustin what I like, but next time I will see if he can provide me with one who will let me indulge. One night Agustin pointed out the owner, a young guy, with his wife. He is the son of a guy who owns a couple other clubs in Nogi, so Studio 69 must be “Junior’s baby”. They try hard to get you to pay $5 to get in, but be prepared to walk. Also, I've had luck letting a tout bring me there after promising that he could get me in for no cover. They pay him his $1 and I just stride right in.

SexHobbyist
01-16-07, 02:14
Please share with me if you can. I know this is the Nogales thread..pm me if possible Thanks.You can read my extensive reports on the USASexGuide site in the Tucson strip club section. I don't have PM privileges on this site.

Sexhobbyist

LoveLOS
01-17-07, 07:09
Wild Wind - wonderful reporting. I read the reports and can picture the scene so vivdly, especially when you point out where you sat--too cool.

Love to click glasses with ya,
12 days...

LoveLOS

LoveLOS
01-18-07, 02:06
WW's reports struck home with the factor the Waiters and club Pimps (AKA Guys in Ties) play in the Nogales experience...

These guys are the bane of the Nogales strip club. They get you drinks, and escort girls to your table, and try to sell you dances, sexo, and ask you for a tip for their "services." A general pain in the ass.

OTOH, and there usually is an OH; sometimes they really are worth the tip. Ferinstance, the guy at Obsessions that takes care of us:

He has some private stock. And if you have a favorite chica, he will usually get her into his rolodex. He has been known to call them often enough, even in afternoons, when the clubs are closed. If they have quit dancing or moved to another bar and are still willing providers, he keeps in touch and has hooked me up. He know me well enough to pick out the winners out of the stable, prime them to meet me, etc. Three Ms LoveLOS's have come from his handpicks. What can I say, that works for me? We get more time in the back rooms, we get the occasional free drink, none of the other customers or the other guys in ties fuck with us, or keep pressing us for drink orders. Most importantly :D we don't pay cover.

If your spanish is weak, my suggestion is to befriend, or pretend to befriend, one of the guys in ties...

Well, our guy Abe has moved to Bolerio. I bet he brings my Salma Hyack or spinner girl (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=433338&highlight=Salma+Hayek+spinner) over this year, HEHEHE Anyway, the stable there is usually high quality, so we may be spending a lot of time there. OTOH, there I am sure the other guys in ties at Obsessions will remember BB and I and we'll also get preferred treatment there. I love the thought of taking the pick of two *****houses... Maybe we'll just fuck em all...

We are gonna have fun... Check your PMs if we have been talking about meeting up for a rountable party. Don't forget Super Sunday! Remember, it is the manditory night out with the guys... You can find out who won and the score on the way home on the radio...

12 days...
LoveLOS

SexHobbyist
01-18-07, 16:25
LL,

You and I have a respectful different opinion of Abe. As useful as you think he is to your mongering, I think he's useless for a couple of reasons.

I don't like the way he corners me in the men's room and blocks the door until I give him a $50 tip. I don't like the way he always has his fat hand in my wallet. I don't like the way he almost always adds 50% to my budget for each visit to Obsessions. I don't like the way he pads the prices to get his share. I don't like the way that he hovers. I don't like the way that he intimidates dancers to stay away from me unless he, himself, brings them to me. (I like dancers who have enough initiative to come and sit on my lap. Abe discourages this because there's no $$$ in it for him.)

There isn't such a lack a girls in Nogie that I need his services. I've learned to enjoy myself by making Obsessions my last call (if at all). I have fun at all the other Abe-less clubs first and spend my money the way I want with the abundance of talent available and without the intimidation of the floor pimps. Only then, if I still need a fix at Obsessions do I venture into Abe's world.

To me, Nogie is much more fun without Abe dictating the circumstances with his hand in my wallet the whole time. He may have a little black book, but its contents are pricey and I don't linger over previous pussy anyway because of all the luscious fresh talent out there to sample. I move on with my mongering and Abe doesn't need to be hovering over me as I explore new talent.

Now that he's at Bolero, I'll frequent that establishment less and Obsessions more.
Sexhobbyist

LoveLOS
01-19-07, 05:50
These guys are the bane of the Nogales strip club. They get you drinks, and escort girls to your table, and try to sell you dances, sexo, and ask you for a tip for their "services." A general pain in the ass.We really do agree. I guess the essence of my comments were that, if you are going to deal with a Guy in a Tie, make him earn the tip. I use the motherfucker as a private concierge.

Abe is probably one of the more intimidating tie guys due to his size. Fortunately, he has to look up to LL, and I use that when cutting any deals for his services. Since I usually go for a week, I only tip him ONCE, on the last day (or a daily stipend, say $20, works also). I make it clear that he must earn his keep or I go elsewhere, which I do anyway just to keep Abe honest. Your spanish is probably better than mine, so I have found he will negotiate shit with the hottest girls they might not otherwise go for, like foursomes in the hotel, etc. Bastard has my phone number and has already called. I did not disclose all the dates of my trip to aid in avoiding him for a while. On the good side, I have negotiated off-site hotel visits for the same price as the storage room in the basement of Bolerios. And it is 60 minutes, not 45... :D

Face it, we're mongers. We chaffe at the notions of following the morality of others, and/or the system they have created. We operate just outside the system to get what we want. You, SH, have mastered the art of extras in the USA strip clubs. My suggestions here are just another way to use the Nogi strip club system (in this case the Guys in Ties) to our own advantage. Everything in Mexico is negotiable, and one place we need to negotiate hardest is with the club pimps--but always with a smile on your face...

OK, we do differ in one thing, once I find a girl with whom I really click, the sex is way above average, we have fun, yada yada yada... I make it my business to fuck her until I get tired of her. This is not to say I won't keep trolling for fresh meat. I guess my daily M.O. is to fuck two new ones and and at least one old fave every day in Nogi. That way, even if I'm having a bad night fishing, I have my ace in the hole for the nightcap... But then, I know a guy that sees the same girls in the Candy Store all the time... ;)

11 days...
LoveLOS

SexHobbyist
01-21-07, 20:28
But then, I know a guy that sees the same girls in the Candy Store all the time... ;)

11 days...
LoveLOS

Abe is the worst of a bad lot. I've got no use for him and he ends up spoiling my experience. That's all I'll say about him.

The difference between Nogales and Tucson is proximity. I don't visit Nogie daily. It's so easy to drive down the street to one of Tucson's infamous skin establishments. Once you find something you like, you tend to stay with it if it's that convenient. If I lived in Nogales, I'd be hitting those clubs daily and visiting some of that talent on a regular basis. Proximity.
See you soon.
Sexhobbyist

Scott Bkinaz
01-29-07, 04:52
Loves Los Yes I said babe It don't matter how many are in the room as long as the one your with be that hottie. So I do a little playing on the i=net got a couple of ladies from backpages. 125 fs bbbj and play. bbbjcym greek 175 . I did love those reports from .... good hunting.When I was going to La Conga I saw a hot hot girl in front of a hotel now I wish I would have stopped. I now play here except when going to TJ. ooops I am going to Thai and Pi 3 week in Feb first of march. Play there also.

Rue Kraft
02-04-07, 04:54
Was in Phoenix for business so I thought it would be appropriate to visit Nogales.

It was a cool Thursday night that was quite slow. Only Studio 69 was half full. All the other clubs were very quiet. I was one of two customers at 11 PM in Obsessions. Had a privado with Mirasol from Obregon. She was hot and said it was her second night on the job. Asked her to come to the Pancho Villa after her shift. She agreed but was a no show. DAMM IT!!

Potros Cantina was interesting. When I first arrived at 8 PM and it was fairly full of guys and three ladies. Two fugly and one fairly hot. Sat at the bar next the the fairly hot one, Catrina and ordered a couple of beers. This is definitely a local bar, several struck up a conversation to see what I was all about. My espanol is very good, but it fits nowhere. Not Nogales, Monterrey, Argentina, or Costa Rica. I have a accent that simply yells foreigner. Oh well. Any way back to Potros. Had a extensive conversation about a bunch of differing rambling subjects with two local dudes. I kept an eye on Catrina but figured that patience would pay off. It never did and she was the one that got away. Eventually, I headed over to Studio 69 and nothing struck my fancy. Assuming that Mirasol for Obsessions was going to be arriving at 3:15 AM I just killed time.

Went back to Potros Cantina about 2 AM and some of the same tired dudes and ladies were there but not Catrina.

Went back to the Pancho Villa Hotel and waited for Marisol in room 12. She was a no show but at 3 AM ish there were many ladies entering rooms with a overall high amount of comotion and movement.

Pancho Villa is as previously reviewed. New, with not counter space in the bathroom, decent bed, but noisey even on the non street side. There is simply so much concrete and tile that nothing absorbs sound.

I am attaching a picture of the Pancho Villa which is through the small street on the South behind of Placers.

Also, a image of Potros which is literally visible from Placers, and Boliero on the same side of the street. Note Boliero is in the image with Potros.

Rue Kraft
02-04-07, 05:37
Forgot to attach the images.

LoveLOS
02-12-07, 08:39
Parking:
Nogales is about a one hour drive from Tucson. When coming to the border area, I recommend parking rather than taking your car across. Uleta has a parking lot that has been recommended for years on this board, as does McDonalds. Ed's is A new parking lot. Apparently associated with McD's just before the big turn at the end of the interstate--just before Uletas. Prices are $4, but the guy collecting the fee seems to go home a lot earlier than the Uleta's guy. I never had to pay after 8pm and never had any hassle. The walk is about 150ft further as you have to walk thru the Uleta's lot to get there.

Crossing over:
In the 75 or so times I have crossed the border in Nogales over a 5 year period, I have never been noticed, or even slowed down by Mexican authorities. For that reason, I do not recomment pressing any buttons for any kind of voluntary declaration. Just walk thru. I cannot stress enough not to carry weapons, even cartridges, or drugs into Mexico.

Policia:
Unlike the USA, the police in Mexico have the right to stop you, ask for your identification, and search your person and belongings for any reason they see fit. Probable cause and unreasonable search laws we cherish in the USA do not exist. Reasons I have given for having been stopped and searched no less than four times in Nogales are: Handing something to a known drug dealer (a tout) riding in an illegally registered taxi Standing on a street corner too long Walking out of a dark alley with a woman.I need not tell you that I was not carrying any drugs or paraphenalia at the time of search, or I would not be here in the USA typing this report. Remember too that it is a good idea to be polite. A bad cop can just as easily plant something on you as not if he does not like you. If a small bribe is asked, I would be inclined to pay it. I has never been asked of me yet--I would love some other opinions on this point if you regulars would care to chime in.

Crossing back:
As of now, US citizens can cross with a Drivers License. A Passport will be required within the year, or so the rumor goes. I have never been searched, but my overnight bag is usually x-rayed. Need I stress not to carry drugs back? They expect you to tell them your country of citizenship, and I have observed agents getting shitty with others because Illinois is not a country. Smile, open your ID or Passport, say US citizen (if that applies) and that is usually the end of the formalities. Some will ask what you are doing in Nogales at 3am, but enjoying the nightlife is a perfectly legitimate answer. If I get meds at the pahrmacy, I usually declare what they are for--chest cold etc rather than risk having to produce a perscription. I do carry old presc bottles with me and drop the new meds into the bottle to save that hassle. Declare your booze, but take only the allowable amount each day.

Taxis:
The passing into Mexico dumps you off a a corner where the touts and taxis hand out waiting for you. Unless your destination is LaConga, the bar - *****house about 2km from the border, a taxi is pretty much unnecessary. LaConga is a $5 fare each way to and from. If you find yourself wishing to get a taxi to the border from anywhere in the city, tell the driver, "La Linea." You will be delivered back to the border crossing. You will be framed a fool to get into a taxi and asked to be taken to any other bar, as they are all within a short, safe walk.

Money:
Us dollars have worked fine in every transaction I have ever attempted. Bars and clubs generally price in dollars anyway. If you are staying at a hotel or buying food, they generally trade you at 10pesos = 1 dollar. The exhange rate is about 11:1, so you would get a 10% benefit for changing money. Buying meds or alcohol usually trades at or near the exchange rate. If you are going to drink and have sex in the clubs, take an extra $100 with you more than the acts themselves--drinks are about $5-$6 each, ladies drinks are usually $10-$11, every asshole from the waiter to the guys in ties to the guy manning the door to the privados has his hand out for his tip.

Condoms:
The use of condoms by the girls is almost universal for blowjobs and sex, which is a good thing if you ask me. If you are taking a girl to your hotel, have a supply of them there. Many of the girls do not have them. For those of you that have a problem with using a raincoat, and I have met some mongers with just such an issue, I cannot recommend Nogales. They have had very poor luck getting service. One guy got laid bareback only after three days and three dates, two of which did not work out well for him. Remember, most of the girls are practicing Catholics, so while a condom and paid sex are sins for which they seem to be able recieve pardon, pregnancy is for keeps.

Alcohol:
May be purchased at any number of liquor stores for consumption in Nogi or the USA. If taking it back, it must be un-opened. You can buy liquor from 12pm to 12 am. I ususally buy a bottle for the hotel, and if I intend to drink a lot in a single club, we often get a bottle of our favorite, bring it to the club and pay the bar a $40 bottle fee. That way you can drink a whole fifth in an evening for about $65 without paying $6 a shot, which, due to the size of the shots they serve would cost about double.

Drugs:
Pharmacies abound for perscription and non-perscription meds, usually at about half of USA costs unless you are on a good med plan. If you need a perscription, one can be procured. There is one 24 hour pharmacy available, the touts will show you where it is. Of particular interest to this board are Cialis for $10-$12 per tab, Viagra for $10 per tab, and generic viagra for $5-$6 per tab. For the sake of completeness of this report; and although I cannot recommend it, illegal drugs such as marijuana (Mary Jane), Cocaine, Meth, and Ice are available. It has been offered to me by touts, junkies in the hotel, waiters, and even a girl once. If you choose this very risky behavior, be warned that the police do pay informants handsomely, and Mexican jail is worse than a bad dream. Be very picky with whom and how you deal in such matters.

Food and water:
I have found the food at the steet stalls, hotels, and restraunts to be good, inexpensive, and safe. I have not yet gotten sick eating in Nogales. I do drink only bottled water and avoid ice in any non-alcoholic drink.

Touts:
An ever present plague, but as I have mentioned earlier, make them work for you. The simplest form is the guy who gets $1 when he successfully brings you to a TD bar and you pay your cover charge. Most of them are a waste of good oxygen, but a few actually have a phone list if you do not wish to pay TD club prices.

Guys in ties:
Same as touts, except they are the guys that arrange dates who work for the TD bars. They always want their tip, and it is usually more than a tout would charge.

Hotels:
I have tried four chica-friendly hotels so far in Nogales. Remember, takeout from the clubs is usually an option for $0 - $20 more than sexo in the club, but the girls are on the clock. Taking them back to the hotel after work saves the club fee but sometimes leaves you holding your balls.
Granada $42 is the nicest, but I found it just out of cell phone range and a pretty good hike from the zona.
Olivia $42 is about four blocks from Obsessions is a good choice, quiet and comfortable.
An old one on the back street behind Bolerios. This was $20 for short time, but I do not know the daily rate, I was not impressed.
The newest hotel is Pancho Villa ($40), which is pictured in Rue Kraft's latest post. It is not as quiet, as many of the guests are also mongers, touts, working girls, and the occasional meth/coke addicts on a 20+ day binge. It is close to the action, situated on the back street behind and between Lust and Placers.
There is a nice looking hotel between VIP and Potros Cantina which is NOT lady friendly.
The action in Nogales, listed geographically:

La Conga:
Not a TD bar. This is a bar in which all of the girls that haunt the place are definately for sale. I believe the current rate is $65 for full service, including the girl for one pop in a room attached to the bar. The condom is extra. This is a hit or miss place, mostly miss. The girls, tend to the fugly side, although some real gems have come out of this bar over the years. Drinks are inexpensive, but the ladies drinks are still twice as much as yours. The place has gone downhill since the Carla/Paola Heyday. The place is not presently heated, winter chill keeps the girls in heavy coats, which may be a good thing based on my observations this Feb. Worth a look if you have time, little money, and want a little bit of a walk on the wild side without really sticking your neck out.

Obsessions:
Obsessions is the only TD bar in the right side of the tracks (facing south from the border). To ge there, walk one block straight ahead from the taxi stand at the border, make the next left and it is 30 feet up that street on the left. Open Tue thru Sat starting at 7pm. They have a fair stable with three or four real hotties on a good night. They have a central stage, pool table, 5-6 open privados and one room with a couch and bathroom.

Other bars on the right side of the tracks:
All of the others bars in the 5 block area are more or less regular bars, but there are a lot of willing partners that can come out of them with you, assuming you have a hotel room and decent enough Spanish to make the deal.

The following bars are located on the left side of the tracks. They can be accessed by turning left at the border taxi stand, going 1 block to the traffic circle, turn left and crossing to a small park and then continuing straight across the railroad tracks to come out on a two-block area between the tracks and the mountain. If you get confused, fear not, there will probably be a tout to guide whether you want him there or not as you make the journey. The georaphical listing here starts at the fartherest point south of the zona and proceeds north on the front street then around the block to the back street, heading south again.

VIP:
Starting at the far south of the Zona, about 150 meters from the middle of the strip, VIP is best known as the after hours club since it stays open until about 4am. There are actually two floors, the bottom, street level, floor has been productive for me when other late-hour options were unproductive.

Massage Parlor:
The ownership appears to be the same as Lust and the other massage parlor on the other end of the block. The dancers from that club get shuffled back and forth to the MP. I have used both MPs in the past. Fee stucture is $40 for the room/massage + your choice of $50 for a HJ, $70 for a BJ, or $100 for everything. A viable alternative to sex in a closet.

Potros Cantina:
A regular pickup bar, good values if not hot chicas. I have pulled several unsatisfactory $25-$50 full service dates from there, but the quality was low and the rush factor was high. YMMV as my Spanish sucks.

Bolerios:
A large club right in the middle of the block. It now opens around noon and goes 7 days. The stable is pretty good, with some of my favorites, with three or four real hotties on a good night. They have a central stage, pool table, 4 open privados and one room with a bench and bathroom.

Lust:
formerly Divas, and only open two weeks now, the place is assembling a nice group of girls. There were three hotties on my last visit. Owner is a bit hungry and I negotiated $150 for an hour for a girl in my room, which is a $30 to $50 savings over Placers or Bolerios. They have a couch upstairs and two rooms which were unfirnished but the owner offered to take the cushions from the couch for fucking... Keep this on the tour and see how things progress.

Placers:
A medium size club that is a Nogi standard. The stable fair, but we found a couple of real gems there. They have a tiny central stage, pool table, 8 open privados. They also have and one room with a bed and bathroom on the side of the building.

Cherrys:
The classic daytime spot, I have never had occasion to, or been tempted by any of the ladies there, so I do not know the layout beyond the stage.

Massage Parlor:
Same comments as above MP.

Lork Blacks:
At the north end of the block on the front street. This TD used to be the standard, but has fallen into disrepair. As of last year, the central stage, a pool table, and 6 open privados and there were rumors of a bed option. I did not venture into the place this year.

Club 69:
High prices and fake tits are the main attraction at this TD. I have not yet been impressed by anything I have seen at this club except for the short time one of my ATF's I had met at Obsessions worked there, briefly. I flatly refused to enter the place on this trip and have never been tempted by any providers there to even find out how about the layout of the private areas.

Fernis:
An iteresting little cross between a bar and a TD. Prices are the lowest of any of the TD bars. There is often one or no fine looking girls there, but always worth a value priced drink to have a look. They have a central stage, several privados and a room with a bed option onsite.

Prices:
They suck in Nogales. Way too fucking high in comparison to other Northwest border towns, especially for the higher-end models, which are found almost exclusively in TD clubs. As noted, full service can be found on the street from $20 to $100. In La Conga for $65. From TDs from $150 to $200. After hours with TD strippers for $100 - $150. Why? There are many reasons for this, including the proximity to central Arizona, where prices are just as high in Tucson or Phoenix, the small city size and traffic the city recieves. The governament is very conservative in comarison to Juaraz or TJ, so prostitution only thrives thru bribes, which probably cost the clubs a lot of money each year. The benefits are the girls are less jaded and the elusive GFE is easirer to find in Nogales than larger border towns, and there are a hell of a lot of 8's, 9's and even a few 10's for the size of the city.

I have an unpleasant opinion of anybody who believes that a woman is inherently worth less in Mexico or other nation than the same woman would cost the USA. The fact that they usually charge far less is an economic advantage as is the fact that all things in Mexico are negotiable; but to say one should not pay the local going rate for an equal quality strikes me as racist more than simply being a Cheap Charlie. I hope not to get into this debate on this board as I post my recent trip reports, which are coming soon.

Hope this post helps the Nogi Newbies,
LoveLOS

LoveLOS
02-12-07, 08:53
Night numero uno.

LL and BB arrived about 6pm from Tucson and were some what debilitated from our previous 24hours: A FS AMP visit (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=499897#post499897)
DC USG Roundtable party (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=499130#post499130) that lasted until we left for the airport.
Six hours of cramped seats and screaming kids
a sucksessful visit to the Candy Store in Tucson (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=499898#post499898). Five pops for LL, Four for BB. Awake for like 40 hours... We were trashed going in...

We crossed over and Obsessions was closed (Mon) but Placers was open. We walked in and there was a stunning girl on stage, but LL happened to glance at another one by the bar that really looked his type. In retrospect they both were his type. LL met eyes and Shiela was soon in his lap. Ieuki finished her hot dance and was escorted to BB, after she changed... into a schoolgirl outfit. BB was a basket case...

Both girls were fun on the laps and both had bodies to die for. LL really liked Shiela's hair, and Ieuki has an almost asian look. I was in lust. The boyz exchanged looks and realized we both had two very fine looking chicas with good attitudes in our laps. They are both 9's. They were LL negotiated the price down from $180 to $150 for a FS quickie. This has set the tone for the rest of our trip. Go to the bar, find the two finest looking/fun girls, and accept no substitutes.

As you may surmise from the attached pics, we were to see these ladies again...

Shiela:
Face:9
Body: 9
Attitude: 7 (in club quickie)
$150 + drinks

Eeuki:
Face:9
Body: 9
Attitude: 7 (in club quickie)
$150 + drinks

Before leaving, we did a quick glance around the bar, and we couldn't believe we had pulled the to hottest girls right off the bat. We left Placers and checked into the Pancho Villa, then on to Bolerios...

We got to Bolerios and, of course, Abe was there with his usual promises of fine hand-picked booty. I have to admit that he has a decent track record. I was intoduced to Baby Doll, a cute little 19yo tight body with small tits and pretty face. She has medium brown hair and a party attitude. Looking good.

The second girl was busy cuddling with another client. The moment he failed to buy another ladies drink, we were presented with Yuki. Yuki was wearing a white, see thru body suit which ineffectively coverd one of the finest spinner bodies in the western hemisphere. We played some pool and negotiated a foursome in the room with both girls, whick they were OK with. Baby Doll likes tequilla, and we happened to have one in the room...

OK again, we are here with like six pops in 24 hours, and with some medications we had ingested, any thought of another pop was remote. However, LL and BB love DATY, and so do the pair we were with. I know that nobody would believe it if I were to post that we both had oral give and take with bothgirls for two hours, LL fucked Babydoll for a while and we had a basic orgy. Go ahead, don't believe it, can't be true. We sent the girls back to the bar and ZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Babydoll
Face: 7
Body: 9
Attitude: 10
$180 + drinks

Yuki
Face: 9
Body: 10
Attitude: 9
$180 + drinks

More coming as I get them composed and edited.
LoveLOS

LoveLOS
02-13-07, 07:23
Woke up at the crack of late afternoon. We went stateside to get out legitimate hotel room, cleaned up and came back to Mex for lunch. A date with Sara had been scheuled for early evening. BB went back stateide and napped. If you have followed my posts, you know this one is a Ms LoveLOS, and an ATF, yada yada yada. It was good. Her body is still recovering from the effects of her new bebe, with a bit of breeder hips and a tummy that is not quite as tight, but she is still super fine.

Sara
Face: 9
Body: 8
Attitude: 10
$ N/A

LL took Sara to lunch, which is now a part of our dates. Then he did the hardest thing yet, Called BB who had come back over and gone to our Mex hotel room. Delivering Sara to him was heart wrenching, but it's what real frienship is all about. And that is what tequlla is for.

LL retreated to Obsessions to drown his mental images of his best buddy fucking the dogshit out of his favorite girl. LL met an American on the way and we decided to party a while. He was a bit take aback when we entered Obs and Paulina attacked LL. LL was enjoying Paulinas attentions when a familliar face appeared. I almost didn't recognize her, she had literally, become a woman. Another Ms LL... Lorania...

Just what the doctor ordered to make him forget Sara.

Paulina didn't stand a chance. She is a cute little thing, but not aggressive and she did not have a chance in the face of this competition. She did manage to make an impression on my new friend.

I had to have Lorania, and so that date was arranged for after hours. Paulina hooked up also, and so we left Obsessions and ventured on into Bolerios. Onstage when I walked in was an exotic looking spinner type with LOTS of energy and a very hot body. Cytlali currently sports very long bleach blonde hair, with the expected dark brown roots. She also sports a nice pair of A/B cups and a shaved pussy, which I knew little LL wanted to explore. My best friend returned from his romp with my ATF, and went stateside to recover.

The American guy I had met earlier was with me and we decided to check out La Conga, with the hopes of hooking up with Karla. I was dissapointed to learn Karla is no longer working there. Nothing else was present either of us had interest in, so we returned to Placers, where Shiela was busy doing the lap thing with another customer. I said hola and left. Nothing interesting in any of the regular bars or the VIP club, so we went back to Bolerios.

I gave the nod for Cytlali, and after a few drinks, decided to retire to my hotel room with her. She has a pretty damn good attitude, and we did the DATY thing until she had her pleasure. My rewards were ample. Did I mention good attitude? Figure it out from the pics. We showerd and I sent her back to the club and tok a rest before a Ms LL was to arrive. We later figured out that this girl is the same one (Spinner Girl) that BDubs fucked in April (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=433338)...

Cytlali:
Face: 6-8 (depending on how you like the exotic look)
Body: 9+
Attitude: 8
$200 + drinks

3:30am soon came and Abeshit brought Lorania. Followers of LoveLOS posts will recall that in April, Lorania got my nickname "tiny dancer." (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=433489&post=433489) She was probably 90lbs driping wet (note the Lorania2006.jpg picture), an absolute DATY hound, and the tightest pussy in the western hemisphere. In two dates she had achieved Ms LL status. Only one thing has changed, she is probably about 110lbs now, the filling out has been very, very nice, you don't feel like you are going to break her accidentally. I hope the weight gain stops, but for the moment, she is one of the hottest girls in Nogi. The other two things--DATY hound and tight pussy.... fuuuuuuuuck.

The session with her was fucking amazing. Shock and awe. She left my room after one of the best sessions in my life, and I looked at the clock on my phone... 5:55am.

Ms Lorania LoveLOS:
Face: 8
Body: 9+
Attitude: 10
$150

LoveLOS

LoveLOS
02-16-07, 07:43
Day 3

Started the night at Obsessions, and BB got tunnelvision for a very hot girl with a red bikini. He is shit with names, so we call her red. LL wanted to check out Paulina, but Lorania sort of out-flirted her, as usual. :D I have decided Lorania has an M.O. when it comes to butterfly behavior of her guys--She acts pissed off and pouts when she catches you landing on another flower. I am pretty damn sure it is an act, because she always seems to forgive me.. But immagine the act I got when I excused myself to go to a date with Sara.

Said date with Sara did not happen. Her real life boyfriend - father of her baby, wanted her. She told me they had broken up. The net effect of catching her in the fabrication is that her year-long spell over LL's mind is broken; the fantasy was great, but I am now free to obsess over another one.

I was waiting at Bolerios when Abeshit delivered the news Sara was not coming until later. My thoughts turned to Babydoll, but then I saw Brenda onstage. I called her over. Brenda is a fun girl and little LL soon indicated a desire to experience this beauty.

We went back to the Pancho Villa for a hour of study. We got along well and Brenda passed the acid tests for a party girl: Fun attitude, DATY hound, willing to enjoy the sex herself (or act like it)... You get the picture.

Brenda:
Face: 7
Body: 8
Attitude: 9
$200 + drinks

We went back to Boleriao to hook up with BB. He was not there yet, or so I thought. It seems there was this girl Babydoll Benz that the man can't stop talking about, and can't stop fucking... They were downstairs in Bolerios when Brenda and I got back. Abeshit brought another girl over to me while Brenda was changing. She was hot but, a dead fish. Remember - best actress wins. LL ejected her in favor of the better actress. Brenda stayed with me until BB and BB were finished, and then, in an amusing and telling exchange between the girls, we switched partners there in the bar. Babydoll was a vetran of a previous foursome with BB and I, and Brenda was definately a player with promise. It had to happen, and we made it happen in an after hours party that made the cost more palatable.

LL was with Babydoll and BB was with Brenda; but nobody was dogmatic about that when it came to the occasional suck on a tit, smack on the ass, or just plain ole watching the live porn show occurring in the next bed over. Sucking, fucking, multiple positions, girls having or faking orgasm, and finally two guys who needed not fake. I think BB strained something, he is not usually the three pops a night kind of guy...

Babydoll:
Face: 7
Body: 9
Attitude: 10
$150

Brenda:
Face: 7
Body: 8
Attitude: 10
$150

It was about 5am, LL and BB checked out of Pancho Villa and headed for the comfort of our USA hotel for some serious rest.

LoveLOS

LoveLOS
02-16-07, 08:09
Abeshit captured me at the border, BB was taking a day off... It was a Thursday, a slow night in Nogales. I wanted to hook up with Lorania but she was absent. Expendatures were starting to take their toll on LL's attitude and concerns of lack of funds was a spectre LL did not want to face again. It was also a Thursday night, by the odds, a slow night.

I went bar hopping with Abeshit in search of bargain booty. Nothing I would fuck in Obsessions except Paulina, who again managed to be agressive enough to close the deal. Bolerios had Cytlaly as the only one. Again, great options but not inexpensive. Abe finally relented that he had $100 girls like the rest of the touts were offering. Hmmmmmmmmm...

I thought again of Karla, so I wanted to go to LaConga. Immagine this, LL took Abe to LaConga, go figure. LL is tour guide for a fucking tout. We established Karla really was gone forever and that did nothing for my attitude.

There were two slummers there, and the place was again unheated so they had the winter coats on. Probably a good thing, hid their bodies from view. Fucking Abe was getting horny for one of them? ROTFLMAO. One girl, a fattie, had a nice face. When the thought that I could fuck her crossed my mind I knew it was time to get the hell out of there!

Got the cab and Abe had us hold for ten minutes waiting for the promised bargain booty, which, as usual, did not show. We dropped off at Bolerios again but LL marched for Lust, the new TD club that has recently (1 week ago from when I was there) opened in the place of the old Divas. Unfortunately, there was nothing there to interest little LL.

BTW-that will change. I can recommend LUST as a viable option in the Nogi scene. I spoke to the manager who is currently eager for business... No Cover, assembling a good array of better looking girls, and slightly lower rates. I negotiated $150 to $180 in the hotel room for an hour. You now have the knwowledge, use it.

My next stop was Placers. I walked in and Ieuki was there. End of story--this is the girl for me tonight. In retrospect, she is not a bad choice for every night... Placers has an on premisis bedroom complete with a bed, heater, and toilet (albiet no running water) for $180. Takeout is also possible, but that is $200.

Ieuki was BB's girl on the first night, and was described by him as a "troooper." That is a good thing, meaning she will work to please. Fortunately, she remembered me with Shiela and so there was some prior emotional connection to having a good time. And we did. She accepted and enjoyed DATY and was a great fuck. She is one of my faves from the whole trip... And out last outing a few days hence was, well, wait for the report.

Ieuki:
Face: 9
Body: 9
Attitude: 9
$180 + drinks

It was about 3am when we finished and the bars were closing. LL was still reeling from the hellatious session with Ieukio. I was walking up the sidewalk and met with Luis, who is a low pressure tout with good English skills and seems to work well for his clients. I had previously met him while he was accompanying another guy with whom I had partied with a few days before. He suggested we go to VIP for the after huours selection there. I counted the money and discovered only $24 left, so we agreed if I saw one @ VIP, I would cross back to to the USA for the extra it might take...

Apparently the girl shadowing us understood our conversation... As we were turning to go to VIP she approached me an offered her full services, including her hotel room (which I did not have that night) for $20. I needed a condom, so the $24 was perfect. A walk on the wild side. Ed would be proud. Myra wasn't perfect, about a 6 face and 5 body but $20 full service--why not? Of course, nothing is as it seems. She didn't have a room and was mistakenly assuming she could pay a hotel keeper $5 or $10 for a room. We had walked around about 30 minutes when I noted a decent alley and we almost simultaneously suggested a BBBJ in the alley.

It turns out that Myra was not a pro as I had assumed. She gagged three times in the process of performing a very enthusiastic effort. Everything would have cum out fine except that the Policia happened along at the in-oppurtune moment. Luis was standing watch, and unfortunately they saw him. He waved us off so we were four blocks toward the border when the pigs found who Luis was protecting. I had already passed Myra her $20 for a very nice, if not professional effort, so I had $4...

The pigs were trying to get a bribe to free Luis, but I made it very clear I had only $4, and if they wanted that, they may have it. We all stuck to the only obvious story we were walking around together before I went back to the USA. My addition was that I needed the time so that I would not be guilty of DUI, which was actually true. A thourough search of Luis and myself found no contraband, so the pigs begrudgingly sent all of us on our way. The offer for a genuine completion of the $20 full service option was made and a meeting time and place was set by Myra for two days later at 10pm. I told her not to wait for me more than 30 minutes because, it seems blatantly obvious to me that I cannot predict where I will be and what I will be getting into when mongering in Mexico...

Myra:
Face: 6
Body: 5
Attitude: 8
$20, BBBJ

The net result of this little walk on the wild side, asside from a near completion of the BBBJ and nice adreneline rush, was that LL discovered Luis is a good guy to have by your side when possibly over your head in Mexico. I am also getting tired of Abe by this time. This adventure set the stage for our next adventure...

A trip to Agua Pierta with senior board member and expert on Mexican wild side mongering, our own Ed... That report is posted here, on the Mexico > Northwest Border Towns > Other Areas Board.

LoveLOS

LoveLOS
02-16-07, 08:32
Did you miss Day 5? Click here...

Tonight is the night. I have tunnelvision for Ms Lorania LoveLOS. The date has been set for two days. I can hardly wait. I can't think straight, this girl has her hooks in deep. I tried playing Lips of an Angel agian to see if Sara would be the vision in my mind as she has for the months up to this trip. No, it is Lorania. OMFG, this is going to be wonderful. It occurs to me that this is the second song that I have dedicated to this lady: (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=433489#post433489)
When I think of Lorania my head turns all around
As gentle as a butterfly she moves without a sound
I call her on the telephone, she says be there by eight
Tonight's the night she's moving in and I can hardly wait

The way she moves, ooh-ooh
I gotta say
Lorania let's live together
Brighter than the stars forever
Lorania let's live together
Brighter than the stars forever

Her eyes become of Paradise, she softly speaks my name
She brightens every lonely night, no one's quite the same
She calls me on the telephone, she says be there by eight
Tonight's the night she's moving in, it's time to celebrate

The way she moves, ooh-ooh
I gotta say
Lorania let's live together
Brighter than the stars forever
Lorania let's live together
Brighter than the stars foreverSometimes, like day 4 and 5, I simply go without a plan. Today, I have a plan. I will meet Lorania in the bar and confirm our date, and perhaps take Paulina in the room before trolling the other bars until 3am when heaven meets LL again. Took a late start for a Saturday night, about 11pm, because I was posting a report so you lowlife perverts that lurk here can get your rocks off reading about some motherfucker that calls his dick "Little LL" and his favorite hookers are given the title of "Ms LL..."

Astute readers may realize that my dedication to you guys had cost me dearly... (See, you aren't an astute reader--or, more likely, I am a fucked up writer). Anyway, I had missed my $20 full service date with Myra. Shit. Oh well. I crossed over the border. When I arrived, there was Luis. What a coincidence! Uh, no, the guy is the only other person that knew about that date... Gotta hand it to him, pretty sharp kid.

As noted earlier, spending the evening with Abeshit two nights before was really tiring. Add to that Sexhobbyist's passionate and well-reasoned argument against the guy. Then BB copped an attitude toward Abe also. The final blow to him when the motherfucker failed to produce Sara all fucking week long. Never let it be said that Little LL does the thinking here... :eek:

I decided to see how things went without his asistance. We avoided Bolerios, even made sure the door guy did not see me and tell his guy-in-a-tie amigo, who would surely come looking for me. Checked in again to the Pancho Villa Hotel and got set up for later. A trip over to the store to pick up some Agavero, which we delivered back to the hotel. Finally ready to play, We Went straight back to Obsessions to play some pool. As expected, Ms L.LL. was there, pool cue in hand. Fucking hot as ever. We played a couple of games, and naturally Paulina hung around, being cute as hell but not agressive at all.

We were working out the details for our date, and poor Luis delivered the sickening news... Lorania is on the rag. arrrrrggggghhhhhhhh. Fuck me over. I thought about doing the redline anyway, but with both of us being complete DATYhounds, there was no fucking way. I thought I recovered well. She went to dance and I immediately negotiated for Paulina to come to my room after work. I said my goodbyes to the manager, my waiter, the bouncer who lets me in without cover. My coat was on...and the bar runs one of the two-dances-for-one things where they herd all the girls up onto stage and the guys pick them up for privados dances.

I took off my coat. There was the screaming hottie (red) BB had fucked several nights previously. I hesitated because she recieved only moderate attitude reviews from my wingman. Then she was gone. Not much else, let me look. Paulina was there, but why bother? She had been on my lap most of the week and I would bed her tonight. Lorania was not up there - they must exempt bleeders. I scanned the crowd, Paulina got picked, cool. Some other pretty brunette I had noticed in passing while playing pool was taken. Then I saw a blonde girl on the left end with big fake-looking tits and a sweet ass. Before any more get snatched, I grabbed her.

LL has a number one body type preference: A spinner with A thru C tits, tiny fucking little ass, thin, about 90 pounds, but not anorexic, and tight little pussy, simply due to anatomical limitations on size of the pelvis. BB on the other hand, likes them best up to about 120 lbs, with a shapely hourglass figure, which reqires B thru D tits, and a nice bubble butt. Funny thing is, we both have no fucking problem going to the other amigos' favorite. Since we look out for each other, the other guy's fave is on our watch list.

I have just described Muñeca. Her body is amazing, a perfect BB girl. I may have given her a 10 if the tits were natural. We went back to the Privado, and I found she had a wonderful attitude for a girl I had not even sat down with or noticed until a few moments ago. She made sure I enjoyed fondleing all of her body and realy enjoyed the job I was doing on her nips with my tounge. I had, as standard procedure, unzipped the fly. By the second song, she managed to have her hands arond little LL, when she wrapped her lips around hime and breathe blew Little LL through my underwear. She looked up with the universal sign for BJ, but Thinking with my big head, I said, "No, sexo!" and pointed up the hall to the bedroom.

The sex was really nice. She seems to enjoy ay attention to her tits, which makes sense, she paid well for them. Of course, she also liked that DATY session, she seemed pretty horny when she demanded to be fucked. We started Mish until I was exhausted, then she climbed on and, OMFG, that dance. I needed to see that ass some more, so we finished doggy. Wow. Great fuck--one of those pure lust fucks. Maybe this was a grudge fuck because I knew I wanted Sara and Lorania and was to be denied the rest of this trip. I don't know why, but it was intense, especially for a woman I had seen only 2 minutes before we were beginning the sexual encounter. I asked her name afterwards. My spanish sucks, but she kept wigggling and pointing to her wrist, and saying something unitelligible that started with an M, had the nya sound in the middle and ended in an a. Thank you Bablefish for giving the name of a possible future Ms LL (or Ms BB--I know he'll like her) if she hangs until next year...

Muñeca:
Face: 9
Body: 9 (deduction for fake tits)
Attitude: 9
$200 + $10 privados

I came out of the room and was met shortly by Luis. He warned me I had better talk to Lorania--"I think she hates you now!" Oh fuck. I looked across the bar and saw a woman scorned. --Hell hath no fury... Oh, Shit.

I was immediately in flashback mode:
Four years ago....
Bangkok...
Thailand...
Day 5 of that trip:

I awoke with the girl of my dreams, we made love, I extended my stay two more days just to be with her... And by doing shit just like this, I fucked up so badly that she walked out on me a day later...

When will I fucking learn?


I am so married, again...

If you read my 2003 Posts from Bangkok, you will know what I did. A nice mixture of groveling and total bullshit. Of course, it was not until I made her laugh at me that she couldn't put on the "I hate you" aires any longer. She did eventually kiss me goodbye, even if I have a feeling all is not perfect. If we meet again I promise to treat her like a queen! She is a Ms LL, therefore, she needs to understand I will cheat on her... :D Women, gotta love em.


Edited in, new material...I knew it was going to happen. It was driving me crazy all evening. The lost three hours where I could not remember what I did on day 6. The picture, of a girl I thought I fucked on my last night, but the time, date and filename placed it on Day 6 before I had Paulina after hours. Mental block.

I got a PM from a guy wanting to know how hard it was to get a BBBJ in Nogi. I knew I had two, one from the $20 street girl and another from someone else, but I'm sure it wasn't one of my fave girls since I dated most of them twice or more. I went to sleep thinking about it here in the USA, almost three weeks later. I woke up with a woody thinking about that BBBJ...and I remembered what happened next:

I walked out of Obsessions with very mixed feelings. I needed a drink and some food. Luis was with me as we walked up to the corner (take a left out of OBS) where there are two taco stands and a hotdog stand. Luis casually mentions to me the girls at the hotdog stand are nice and "they will go with you for $100." Hmmmmmmmm. It was cold out, but one of them looked pretty nice. Turns out one is 6 months preggo, and the other is only 2 months preggo. I cannot remember her name but it starts with a "C" I think. I'll call her hotdog girl.

I bought a hotdog, ate it there, and took the purveyor to go. Back in the room, I found she was pretty hot. The tummy was just beginning to show, see pic, but her body was fine nonetheless. She did not want extended DATY, probably thought I was gonna slobber on the kid. :) She did choose to slobber on Little LL though, a mighty fine BBBJ. She slipped the cover on and cowgirled for a while, and despite the Altzhiemers, I have this latent picture in my mind about finishing in mish.

And then she was gone.

Hotdog Girl:
Face: 7
Body: 7
Attitude: 8
$100

I talked with some of the residents in that hotel landing until it was time to go get Paulina. When I went back to OBS at closing time to claim Paulina, I fortunately did not see Lorania. Paulina came back to the hotel. I was a bit disappointed in her attitude. Could have been because she had always been second or third on my list all week long, could have been because she is so fucking shy (no pictures, the one here is a re-post of the one on the L.O.N. website, like three years old.), or it could have been because she saw the whole thing between Lorania and I. Who the fuck knows, probably the challenge was she was not the party girl like I had become accustomed to all week long.

On the other hand, she is a good girl... We fucked like rabbits in all my favorite positions, twice. I had a lot of pussy previously that week, and busting the nut was getting a bit harder... We were both getting exhausted, so when it came around to round two at doggie, I felt I needed a tighter hole, which was about two inches above the one I had been using. I was gentle as possible and she didn't complain. It was good, tight, and [shiver]... I blew the load in about two minutes, Sweeet. She did not ask for one, but I gave her an extra $20 tip for the bonus...

Paulina:
Face: 7
Body: 7+
Attitude: 8
$100 + $20 tip for anal.

I was wired from the relatively short night and low alcohol intake, so I hung out by second floor landing outside the room at the Pancho Villa. I was kinda hoping to pull a Munch Lunch. I met another monger and a pair of drug addicts on a 10+ day high. Finally the other guy had some intel on the Club 69 girls staying at the hotel. We went up to their room to meet them. He was excited, but all three were a bit average looking. Granted, no high heels, short miniskirts or makeup, but I would have had to been a bit more stoned than I was to take one of them back downstairs.

Finally gave up and hit the sack at about 5:30am... Get some sleep for the big game--Super Hole 2007.

LoveLOS

Goddamit, as I write this, my faves list on my computer just started playing "Lips of an Angel" -- Lorania's face appears in my mind again. What have I done?

LoveLOS
02-16-07, 09:00
Super Hole Party 2007 Ieyuki, Shiela & Cytlali

We had set the bar very very high in the 2006 season with the highlight of a double date with Melody & Sara. My wingman is one of the more rabid Colt fans, and we arrived in Nogi with him having downed about 18 shots of teqilla and a serious "my boys kicked ass" attitude. LL was running wingman to cover my brothers ass.

Super Sunday, and so OBS was closed. Now Mr Attitude wanted nothing to do with Abe, so that also precluded Bolerios. We had done pretty well at Placers on our first night with Ieukio and Shiela. We managed to pick up Luis and another monger I had met in my hotel. The four of us walk in and sit down a row back from the stage. Much to the chagrin of BB, who had tagged her on the first night, Ieuki saw me, came over and sat in my lap. He didn't have to fume for long because Shiela also saw us and came to him.

We had a couple of drinks and pretty much made the deal for the two girls for our annual "Super Hole Party," but we wanted to chill a few minutes first. Ieuki went to dance and was grabbed for a privado. The bar called the 2 for 1 thing again and all the girls got onto the stage. Shiela was the first pulled off. Nothing else I would want. Ieuki came back for the second song of that deal and she was escorted up on stage, and lasted 15 seconds before being selected and escorted back down. Although I had them pegged as the two finest in the bar, apparently some others thought so also.

Half an hour later, they were finished with their dances, dressed in street clothes and on our arms heading to the Pancho Villa. We were, of course feeling little pain, and the party was the equal, if not better than the 2006 event. Well for me anyway. In 2006, we had two eventual Mrs LLs in the room, but my ATF (Sara) was being fucked by BB, and Melody was my second fave... I got it right this time, Ieuki was in my bed, and my buddies will attest to my preference for black hair and that Asian-like look. The girl rocks my world just thinking about her.

Recalling the challenges I had getting off with Paulina, and with BB in the same relative condition, but both of us a fifth of tequilla to the good, we had a nice long party... One quote I missed from sharing nearby privados on night one came clearly to mind during the party;

BB said of Ieuki, "we have a trooper here."

He was right. I exhausted myself fucking her in all the favorite positions, and was laying there trying to get enough energy to go another round when she started the oral/manual work... Normally BB is the screamer, but tonight, Ieuki made LL the vocal one... OMFG. Ms LL material? I'm thinking about it... I think we need to meet again, I can't seem to get enough of her.

Shiela:
Face:9
Body: 9
Attitude: 9
$180 + drinks

Ieuki:
Face:9
Body: 9
Attitude: 10+
$180 + drinks

It was early when we returned them to Placers. Probably 1am. Our plan was not to go to Bolerios because of Abe, so BB waited outside with Luis while LL scouted to see who was in Bolerios. No Babydoll or Brenda, Yuki had not been seen since night one, so I had given up on her. There was the tall, stunningly beautiful girl who never smiled and never looked my way and got so few dates it made me ill for her. Damn with a good attitude she would have been an all-star. Oh fuck, Abe. I gave him the straight up reasons why BB didn't come in and why I was not hanging around anymore; he wasn't happy I was not pleased with his service this year. We'll see if he is teachable... Two weeks and he hasn't called, a good sign.

I was about to leave and I saw Cytlaly. Now, I knew I needed a tight pussy to get me off tonight, and she has the tightest one in Nogi... I made sure she waited for me and I went out to take leave of my friends. BB went stateside to sleep off his tequilla, and I went to Bolerios to drink more and fondle Cytlali until closing time.

She has a great attitude, and as I mentioned, the tightest pussy in Nogi... (Yes, tighter than Lorania). I got my nut in a reasonable amount of time. I think I mentioned on USG that I love the Comedy/Tradegy kidney tats when viewed from doggie position... OMFG. As a special treat, this is the source material for some of my post Yep, I am so married... again post (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=501054#post501054) on USG because I was able to ring her bell and she really, really appreciated it...

Cytlali:
Face: 6-8 (depending on how you like the exotic look)
Body: 9+
Attitude: 10
$150 + drinks

Sent her home and crashed really hard...

GO Colts.
LOveLOS

LoveLOS
02-17-07, 06:01
Last day. Swansong. Solo, BB is absent yet again, some drivel about having drunk too much the day before. Whatever. He is still the guy that has proven he can hang with the LL better than any other, so I'll cut him some slack. Don't think I will give Ed so much grace, I mean, since when is work an excuse for not driving an hour to live the dream most men don't have the balls to live. OK, yep, I understand. You're good in my book too buddy...

Monday is a slow day in Nogales. What will tonight hold? Who will be my queen of the evening? I want only the finest, no slumming here. I really didn't have a yearn for anything new, my girlfriends this trip have provided some of the best sex and greatest fun ever. If I am to dream of notching it up a bit, the base platform realistically needs to be a repeat of a favorite.

Oh. You assholes just want a trip report, not more of my obsessing over my fuckfaves. Sorry.

OBS was still closed so my stable there, a redlining Lorania, an anal bedroom eyes, and a new blonde bombshell Muñeca, were not on the menu. Sara was a possibility if I enlisted the services of Abe for a phonecall. Maybe. Ieuki was high on the list if I could find her at Placers. Of course, Bolerio had Babydoll, Brenda, Cytlali and possibly even Yuki, odds went with Bolerio, so that is what LL did.

I walked in. Abe was absent, so Sara was off the menu. Never thought I would want to see the SOB. There was only one girl present. I mentioned her before. She is tall and a real stunner, but I have never seen a smile on her face--I cannot immagine fucking such a beautiful starfish. Her laying there on her back, arms and legs splayed out, with the hole in the center to pound until you cum. Woo fucking hoo.

I was standing at the bar talking to the guy when the bathroom door opens. A petite little hardbody with long reddish-black hair in a tight black top. OMFG, Yuki. She recognized me at about the same time and ran to me. I knew my fate was sealed, BB and I had a swapped partners on the first night, so I had tasted of this sweet morsal for a most wonderful session of DATY. She has possibly the largest g-spot of any girl I have ever had the pleasure to finger fuck, and she really enjoys the stimulation in that manner. Did I mention she has a fucking wonderful attitude?

We sat down to party a bit and another object of my affection appeared. Babydoll Benz. Unlike real life, where BB's significant other is sacred, our paid girlfriends are definately for sharing, and I had shared Babydoll with him and alone with my wingman's blessing. Babydoll has the best attitude both in the bar and in the bedroom of any of the girls. Her party attitude is infective.

Now my fate was really sealed. I needed to fuck both women on this, my final and finest night. It was amazing how that first night in Nogales really really did set the stage for the rest of the week. Our superhole party with two of the stars, and now my last night for this trip with the other two queens of that night. But which one first? I searched my heart while partying with them. They had me up dancing, and since the dancefloor was not busy (I was sitting with 50% of the talent that night) they got me up on the main dancerfloor. I am sure LL on the brass pole is not a picture those who know me really want to bring to mind, but add Babydoll and Yuki dirty dancing with me, and , well, you get the picture. Deal with it.

Babydoll then did something I feel was significant. She gave me a necklace she was wearing. OMFG, that has rarely happened with any working girl I have been with, and the few other times it has... I felt it was significant. At that moment I decided I wanted all night to explore the possibilities with this beautiful, fun, playful young woman. And the horndog in me kept yelling about the only woman on the whole trip whom I had assigned a 10 for body, especially considering the daughters of Nogales I had ruined this trip. To broker the deal, I started with the woman with an emotional stake. I told her I had promised to date Yuki, but wanted her for more time after the bar closed. My spanish sucks, but we also used the text input on the cellphone to enter key information. We scheduled a date for 3:30am.

Midnight, time to fuck Yuki. Apparently due to our previous encounter, she was very comfortable with me and had come prepared to party. We drank for a bit and slowly, like you were seducing your highschool girlfriend, we got naked. As you well know, this girl loves oral and manual stimulation, simultaneously and in great amounts. She was quivering and told me to stop. "I want to finish inside. Please fuck me now."

That is music to an old mongers ears to hear a 21year old mother of one that still has a "10" spinner body (except for that ceasarian line). Lips of an angel? Hmmmmmmmmm. No, we never did get the emotional attachment that is required by that song (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=503488#post503488), but the title fits. Sure wish SWMBO© understood what she was missing if she would open her mind and fuck me to tears each night, but I digress.

The fuck was amazing, she was intoxicationg and I was intoxicated. The net result was we were both satisfied. I escorted Yuki back to Bolerios.

Yuki:
Face: 9
Body: 10
Attitude: 10
$200 + drinks

I made sure I found Babydoll and confirmed our date. Then I went stateside to get a little gift to give to her tonight. I was back at about 2:45am and caught Babydolls eye as she was being sent downstairs by the guys in ties trying to close for the night. A smile and a blown kiss.

I was let outside, and waited in the back. It then occured to me she may have come out the front. No, was the word. I sent my waiter back in an he says she is coming in five minutes. They locked up in about 3:45. One guy said she had left 15 minutes ago. Went to the hotel, not there. WTF? Waited at the hotel until almost 4am. No babydoll, no clue what happened. I am still wearing the necklace...

At the hotel, I was starting to explore other options, even if just a grudge fuck to get Babydoll out of my system. The drug addict lady would have been a freebie (seems her boyfriend couldn't get it up on blow), but I would not have fucked her with Ed's dick. Hell, I don't think Ed would even have fucked her with his own, but I guess that is pure speculation. She did have a $50 menu. "What kind of party girl you want? A crack girl, or meth, or coke, or mary jane?" Mary Jane seemed the least probablility for a drama queen, so she suggested a hot girl that she would call for me. I glanced over at Luis, whose opinion I had come to respect. He wispered he knew the girl but she was not up to my standard. Now, I understand that advice was probably self serving, but then too a $50 session with a girl who is selected based on her favorite drug addiction is probably a persscription for trouble. I advised her I would look around and get back to her if I needed her help.

We moved out to VIP. By 4:15 I had selected a 9 from VIP with only a so-so attitude. We were negotiating the date when Luis again delivered the devastating news, "She is on the rag..." Laugh or cry? I laughed and pointed out the runner up. It was getting late enough that even VIP was closing, so there was no return time for this one. Kenya is a brown haired beauty with a much better attitude than the rag girl would have been. She partied a bit with me in the room, and we had a damn good fuck. This one has great possibilities to develop into a favorite but for the timing and the circumstances. After what I had experienced in the week, I almost felt like I was slummin to fuck an 8-- a woman who any sane man would love to fuck and who would not give me the time of day if not for the money.

Kenya:
Face: 7
Body: 8
Attitude: 7
$180 + drinks

SMWSLT©,
LoveLOS


SMWSLT ©2005LoveLOS First used 44 times to date on USAsexguide, first used in this report... (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=377760&highlight=SMWSLT#post377760)

SWMBO ©2005LoveLOS First used 10 times to date on USAsexguide, first used in this report... (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=334743&highlight=SWMBO#post334743)

LoveLOS
02-19-07, 07:27
I can see how it would be easy to be obsessed with her. I had a relationship with a similar girl for about 3 years. I still haven't recovered even though ending it was my idea. I even made my stupid "sceen name" after her. She was completely out of the "business" while we were together, now she's back into it somewhere in Mexico and I feel guilty. The
lyrics to the song (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=503488&post=503488) hit home.Donorita,
Ouch. I almost quit hobbying one time when I got too close to a girl. My friends will recall the three months of AWOL last year. I just found her pics (not posted here) and :eek:!

Funny you mentioned the screen name. I picked LoveLOS, which stands for Love-Land of Smiles (LOS=Thailand). The screenname really should have been LoveTAI. Tai is "theGirl" from my 2003 trip there. I have never posted her name before, and the attached pic is the only edited one I have posted so far. I will continue to withold most of her many many pictures I have of her since she is no longer working, married to a farang and just gave birth to a son. Yes, we are still in touch.

In night 6, I put links to the two nights I effectively lost her, and here is alink to the night I met her (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=124853&post=124853). She is the original Ms LoveLOS.

There are those who have suggested I change my screen name to "AmoreMEX" but AM has already been taken by AtlMonger... :p

Speaking of "just found" pics, I was cleaning up my memory stick for use in the camera again and noticed that, in my drunken stupor of the trip, I missed a few pics! Hell, I had one I didn't recognize! OMFG!!!

I thought it was of Kenya, looks like her, the last girl I was with. The picture number is right before Paulina... WTF? I don't think I met and fucked any other girls that night. Geeeze. Next year, I need a wingman with me every night. This just won't do...

LATE EDIT - The picture below, labeled KENYA, is of HotdogGirl in Day 6, that post was edited to fix the mental lapse...

Other pics I missed, (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=563521&post=563521&highlight=hotdog)Sara in the mirror. Shit, that one started getting into my head. I may have to call her and find out WTF happened to her all week. I just know if I do, all is lost. Haven't called Lorania either. Avoidance issues becasue I know what will fucking happen to my obsessive little brain.

Also missed some pics of Paulina, AKA "bedroom eyes," and a closeup of Cytralily

Enjoy, I did.
LoveLOS

Stretchedsac
02-26-07, 23:00
Arrived at Nogales on Friday night and started out at a bar one block west from Obsessions. About 100 ft north of the taco stand next to drug store.

About 10 ladies all 5-7s had a few beers and found out when the girls sit with you the waitress brings them water and it still costs 5usd. Rip off.

I asked the girl for sex but then are just there for companionship. I then head off to La Conga a true mexican bar with *****s. I sat down and was immediately waited on ordered a beer for 2. 50 and then a lovely girl came and sat next to me. I know only a little spanish but that was ok. Her name is Sonia very fit for a 37 year old and sexy. I ordered her a drink and we chatted while I inspected her boobs. Nice 32 bs perky nipples. She allowed me to put my hand under her blouse and play with them while we drank. For 65usd that included the room at the bar and 40 minutes. Very passionate girl with trimmed pussy and loved to suck cock and pull on the balls. She sucked the balls then it was my turn. I did a 69 on her which she loved and started to squirm when I nibbles on her clit. We fuck missionary and doggie Get experiance which is as close to g/f you will find. Try her but be gentle I want to use her again.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Ready 007
03-15-07, 16:47
After Stretch's report,,,,looks like I need to make a trip to La Conga to bang on some mexican *****s. Anyone know what time of day they are open and ready for business.

Ready 007

SexHobbyist
03-18-07, 21:25
After Stretch's report,,,,looks like I need to make a trip to La Conga to bang on some mexican *****s. Anyone know what time of day they are open and ready for business.

Ready 007


I've been there all hours of the day and night and they've been open. I believe they are a 24/7/365 operation. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong. The thing is...timing is everything. Sometimes the selection is acceptable, but other times, it's pushing the gag reflex. If you go there and don't like what you see, come back in an hour or two; or ask the bartender when the next shift shows up.
Sexhobbyist

Ready 007
03-20-07, 03:33
I've been there all hours of the day and night and they've been open. I believe they are a 24/7/365 operation. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong. The thing is...timing is everything. Sometimes the selection is acceptable, but other times, it's pushing the gag reflex. If you go there and don't like what you see, come back in an hour or two; or ask the bartender when the next shift shows up.
SexhobbyistThanks for the info, I will be going as soon as I can get a day away from the ball & chain, Will have to be a golf outing to Rio Rico (LOL) with a detour. By the way, I really enjoy your reports on CS and keep them coming, cumming, whatever. Haven't visited CS yet, but it's probably in the future. Want to be a tourist guide?

Thanks again,

Always ready and safe,

Ready 007

Muffdiver21
03-23-07, 01:29
Went to Nogales on Wednesday. Got a room at the Pancho Villa Hotel, then bought some Aqua & Cerveza to brighten it up. It was still early, so I did the tourist shopping thing until 1:30. Then it was time for afternoon mongering. I went to every open TD club and massage parlor, before settling on the best looking girl from the Bolero's day shift. It cost me $180 dollars for full sex in a bed that they used over near Placers.

Went back to my room for some shut eye, until the night shift came on. Was surprised to see that some of the girls that worked day shift at the massage parlors, were now working at LUST's during the night. That meant that some poor guy was going to get the really sloppy stuff. In fact, many of the girls simply change locations, which means it getting harder to get the fresh stuff.

Although, I found Zayda at Placers. Not only was she fresh, this 20 year old girl screwed my brains out. Just when I thought I couldn't take it anymore, for the Coup De Grace, she pulled out a vibrator. While I was pounding her, she had it massaging her clit. This was the 2nd girl I have met in Nogales in the past 2 months, that seemed to like sex more than you would ever think a hooker could.

The other one, who works at Bolero's, wanted me to blow her first. That kind of attitude you simply don't find in the U.S.

Mr Chub
04-22-07, 19:06
Does anyone go to Nogales anymore? I am thinking of going during the day in the next week or two. Could anyone give me pointers on where to go during the day? I have been there plenty of times at night during the weekend.

Thanks,

Mr. Chub

Carnal1
05-10-07, 14:06
Great series of reports. I have been to Nogales many times. Have not been there in a while (due to my affliction with Costa Rica) but may have to give it another try. Quite convenient from Phx.

If you are going again anytime soon, let me know.

Stretchedsac
05-15-07, 17:16
I was in Nogales recently and then off to Mexicalli. For about a third of the price and fantastic selection make the drive to Mexicalli. They have a zona roja near the main poe. Just head about 4 blocks on the main drag and then turn right for about two blocks. The bars in the area are 3 Aces, Hotel Kennedy, Gateo Negro and many more. A lovely young door girl 21 hot hot body can be had for 30 and 6 for the room. Have fun.

Ed...
05-16-07, 01:14
Gee... thanks.
It is nice, and there are many, many, more places to go than you even mentioned.

At a mere 700 mile round trip, why stop there?

I don't know if your thirty dollar door girl was much fun, but with twenty miles to the gallon and ten hours to kill it is indeed a bargain over Nogi.

Marelobo Mex
05-20-07, 04:55
Will be in Tuscon the first week of June.

I haven't been to Nogales in over three years. I understand prices are up a bit. Not too concerned about the money. More interested in small breasts, small butts, and tight hard bodies that know how to give a good BJ.

Any recommendations on girls would be appreciated.

PM me if anyone else is going that time frame and wouldn't mind an inexperienced guy tagging along.

Marelobo Mex
05-31-07, 06:30
Well boys,

Since no one had any advice and no one seems to be heading down for the next few days.

I guess that will leave all the girls to me.

Based on reading the forum, I think I am starting at Bolerios.

If you see a gringo with a green bag, that is likely me.

I won't have access to my computer until after my trip is over. I will post a report upon my return and hopefully will have had some fun.

Marelobo Mex
06-09-07, 18:30
Well Boys I have only been to Nogales a hand full times and it is normally years between my visits. Each time I find it much different than the last time.

I always have a good time, and on two trips I had an awesome time with just the kind of girl I like.

I have gone back and read the last years worth of posts, I thought I would share my opinions in a Prologue before my report.

Some of my writing is quite long and tends to ramble. I apologize for that to all of you that don’t like long posts. Since no one has posted on this board for the last month and my questions went unanswered.

I feel quite comfortable using this space for my writings. If you don’t like reading them or get bored with them, then you can easily skip them.

Marelobo

Marelobo Mex
06-09-07, 18:31
The intention of this trip is to engage in three activities that I am prevented from doing most of time as a result of age, culture, and where I live.

First activity is to feel up tight hard bodied girls with firm tits. I do quite well attracting females, but they tend to be females my age. And they have all the same age related issues that I do. Carrying some extra weight, and it has been a long time since I have had six pack abs. I still see young early twenties late teen girls with hot bodies but do not have any hope of scoring them. I know this from trying multiple times. Simply I am looking for the kind of girl I would have fucked in college. I was very picky in college. She needed to be thin, tight, hard and an athletically built girl. I am a small breast man and like A cups and B cups. A cups are my preference. If the girl is under 5’4’’ she needs to have A cups. From 5’4’’ to 5’8’’ she can have B cups. Over 5’8’’ she can have C cups. I really need a well proportioned girl. Her stomach need to flex inward even when she is sitting down. As for face and hair, as long she isn’t ugly I am ok.

Second activity is I want a girl who acts horny. Who is sexy and erotic, and uses her sexual power to excite and arouse. Most females I know what to be romanced out of their panties with candle light and bubble baths. They need to feel like they gave in or succumbed to you. Or that they didn’t really want to have sex, or are not supposed to want to have sex. I think this is primarily a cultural problem in the USA. I am looking to be serviced, to be stroked, sucked and lay back and let her work at pleasuring me. I find dancers in general are in control of their sexual power, and Latina’s in particular are quite open about enjoying sex.

Third activity is I am looking for long lasting and satisfying blowjobs. Most females want to quickly lick/suck my penis until I am hard and get it into their pussy. Many act like they do not like giving blowjobs, even if they like having their pussy eaten out. Most females reduce the amount and the length of the blowjobs the longer you know them. Sex is something girls seem born to be could at, they do not need to learn how to do it. I have not noticed any real difference between stripper pussy and non-stripper pussy. Especially if I am the one pounding away to orgasm. However the blowjob is something that needs some practice and work. The best blowjob I ever had was from an underwear model I dated in my twenties. After she blew my mind with the most awesome blowjob, I asked her how did she do that. She just smiled and said in the underwear modeling business you have to give a lot of blowjobs. The last time I was in Nogales, I met a chica who gave incredible blowjobs. Not quite as good as the underwear model, but good enough that I only got blowjobs from her for the rest of my trip. I am doubtful I will find such quality again. But I am confident in getting some really good blowjobs.

In addition to these activities, I am looking for the opportunity to engage in a couple of my erotic desires. I like to cum on a girls face, most girls are not into it and will only do it on a special occasion like New Years Eve. Also I have often had two or three girls in a night, but I have never done two girls at the same time. I know this is pretty tame, and most of you guys have probably done it lots of times, but I might try to find the opportunity to do this. Lastly, I would be happy to find some young and inexperienced Chicas just learning how to be a sexy dancer. I have had great times on my first and third trip to Nogales with this type of girl.

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Marelobo Mex
06-09-07, 18:32
Regarding the prices often complained about on this board. I notice prices of milk, water and gasoline are also up a lot over 10 years ago. I think it is not so much the price paid as the value received. Did you get that much of pleasure worth for your money. I understand it is cheaper in South East Asia and Costa Rica. No problem to go there. Although you might be able to find a willing person in the USA at the same prices, she will no way have the firm body and horny attitude of the girls in Nogales. Maybe it is possible to find one, but not a gang of them. I know if you just want empty out in any female hole that is fine for you, but if like me you looking for a school boy fantasy. I think Nogales is still a good place. I can afford the money, so maybe I am lucky and don’t need to worry about it. If I was the girl and I could make $100 doing one blowjob or $20 for five blowjobs. I would choose the $100 dollar option also. As the client, I am happy to pay $100 just so I know that four of you other guys haven’t already been there before me. Finally I think if a girl is going to do one blowjob she will do a much better job than if she is going to do five blowjobs. My experience is this kind of work tends to burn out the girls after a while, so if they are having less sex they last longer and the bar is able to offer more variety, when I come in. I would always like to pay less, I agree prices else where are cheaper, but for the experience to be had I think you can get your money worth in Nogales.

Marelobo Mex
06-09-07, 18:34
I am nobody’s fool, although occasionally someone cheats me. In general I have had lots of success getting discounts.

When procuring services from the Chicas, you are basically engaging in a negotiation that is subject to the laws of supply and demand. These are simple rules that everyone understands and we use in our daily lives all the time. I am constantly amazed how all a girl has to do is expose her tits and guys turn their brain off and agree to what ever she says. First she thinks you are there to have sex. So regardless of how many times you say no, you can keep sending the yes signal with your body language (a rock hard dick) she will think it is just a matter of time before you say yes. This gives her an incentive to work hard and provide good service. She will do more and more nasty stuff for free and will also offer discounts to get you to agree.

She thinks once you have a hard on and are breathing a little heavy from her activities, she has the most power in the negotiation. This is totally wrong. This is the time you have the most power. You haven’t paid anything, but she was been working hard. If you are like me you have stretched the time out. She doesn’t want to invest all of this effort in you for a $23 dance. She is also worried she got you all horny so the next girl can get $100 from you. This is the time maximum discounts and extra services are offered. She will likely see it as unsuccessful if she doesn’t upsell you, especially if another girl does 10 minutes later. She is not used to having guys act this way at this time, and is uncertain about the experience. She knows normally when a guy has a hard on he will do whatever she says. She doesn’t quite know how to act, if you are disinterested or counter off now.

Make the waiters work for you. I usually start the night saying I want 3-5 girls to do table dances for me and before I do any privados. I ask them to bring over each girl that is my body type. Now I have instant competition going. The girls know there will be some privados, but they also know if they do the table dance and don’t get asked for a privado their chances of getting one goes way down. This ensures good table dances. It also give me a chance to talk to the girls and check them out see if they act sexy, we have a personality connection and that I like them. Finally if I like one I can ask her if she will let me do certain things during the privado, like feasting breasts or fingering her pussy. This helps to ensure I have good privados. Again a no answer here means no privado, once in the privado she can make any limitation she wants if you don’t clarify during the table dance.

A word of caution here; be careful of the upsell. My experience has been a good table dance leads to a good privado. A bad table dance regardless of the promises made for a horny privado or touch everywhere almost always lead to bad privados. Same caution if she doesn’t want to do a privado but go right to the room for sex. It is bad experience. If she does a hot privado then the sex will be just as good.

Remember you know what you want, but they don’t. If a waiter or dancer offers me some thing. I never say no until I am ready to actually buy. I always say perhaps, maybe, costs too much, or can it be cheaper (tal vez, mucho costo, mas barata, are my favorite words). We could be negotiating for something I do not even want, but this negotiation sets the stage for future ones and if you bargain hard for something and then say no to a good deal. The next negotiation starts at a much lower level.

I rarely make counter offers because this puts the power back in the other persons side, and they clearly know you want it. By never saying no and always saying maybe, you keep the power, and force the other person to come up with creative suggestions and ideas on how to lower the price or provide more service. They have to operate from the assumption that I want what they are offering and assumptions are vague things that give me the negotiating power. Be careful of the question how much do you want to pay. Never answer that, always respond the lowest you will charge. Whatever she answers, always say still too much.

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Marelobo Mex
06-09-07, 18:35
Late May – Early June. The first time I came to Nogales was in 2001. The person who brought me explained this is the best time to come because of school. The highschools and colleges in Mexico are over for the summer and lots of the hot, tight, hard bodied girls are looking for ways to earn money over the summer for school next year or as permanent work after school. So there is a big increase in supply. At the same time the University of Arizona is on summer break and all the rich kids go back home to their parents. So there is big drop in demand at the same time there is an increase in the supply. This makes for perfect hunting grounds. Bars stocked with many girls, few clients and many inexperienced girls just learning to be sexy dancers. Acting more like girlfriends and giving away some cheap deals. By the way this trend reverses in September. Some girls who didn’t like it will have tried it and dropped out, others will have returned to their schools, and the remaining ones have had all summer to learn the game and be primed to take every dollar from those rich college boys. In addition all those rich kids who couldn’t get any pussy all summer come running over with there student loans to dump down a strippers pussy.

Marelobo Mex
06-09-07, 18:35
Spanish – My Spanish sucks. But I do know a couple hundred words and can speak at a maybe a first grade level. You definitely do not need to speak Spanish as some of the waiters speak minimal English to fluent English. Many of them have lived in the USA before. Some strippers know enough English to have a basic conversation, although this is the exception. If you just want to get your rocks off no English is necessary. However I find during the negotiation Spanish helps. Bigger discounts are available negotiating directly with the dancer than with the waiter. Most of the time things go easily. But if there is problem I have seen people speaking very good English who suddenly can’t understand anything but Spanish. I am particularly good in Spanish when someone is trying to cheat me. I will switch from English to Spanish when these problems occur and I am amazed as soon as I say it in Spanish the problem goes away.

The dancers seem to really appreciate speaking a little bit of Spanish, and since you have many of the same conversation over and over again, it is easy to learn enough words to have a basic conversation. I usually bring a pocket dictionary, and miniature flash light and tell the girls I am trying to learn Spanish. If you have just had a big cum with one of the girls and need an hour to rest before you can get hard again. I would suggest picking out a Chica you like, buy her a 10 dollar drink and have her sit on your lap and talk to her in Spanish. She can teach you and it is the cheapest Spanish lesson you can get. Plus you can touch her body anytime you want during it. It is fun for her to hold the light while you use the dictionary or you hold the light while she uses the dictionary. I often use this time to find out how old the Chicas are, where they come from in Mexico, if they have kids, if they are working the following day. How long they have been working as strippers. It is also fun to point at her body parts or your body parts and ask her how to say it (Como say dee say) is my favorite expression. You know how girls in the USA don’t like to say the word pussy. Well you get the same effect when you make one of these girls say panoche. She will say pussy a million times because culturally it doesn’t mean anything, but ask her to say it in Spanish. She will always say it quietly, and with a grin on her face, like she has just said something naughty. Lastly if her English is a little better, you can ask her about the song that is playing, and what are they singing about. A lot of them are raunchy Spanish songs and it fun to have try to describe the sexual situations.

I find you get better dances just from telling the girls you want to learn Spanish or are trying to learn Spanish. Especially if you tell them it is a more beautiful language than English. If a girls sits with you for a while and you talk to her I find she does a hotter dance if she likes you. Instead of being just another gringo dick to get off, you are a nice guy with a gringo dick to get off. This also helps in the negotiation to bring the prices down and the extras up.

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Marelobo Mex
06-09-07, 18:36
Despite being allowed to run a tab, don’t do it. Despite being able to pay by credit card, don’t do it. Pay as you go, and pay cash, and everyone is happy. It is worth a trip to the bank before you go to break you bills into pile of 1’s, 5’s, 10’s and 20’s. Not necessary but can help prevent lots of problems.

Marelobo Mex
06-09-07, 18:50
Enter Bolerios and sit down by the wall. Immediately a large and large breasted girl sits down with me. She is not my type at all. About a minute later a waiter guy comes over and ask if I want to buy her a dance. I say no. After she leaves this guy introduces himself as Abraham. Often written about on this board. Although this is the only night I saw him.

He immediately asks me if I want sex or a blowjob. I respond perhaps and ask how much. He says 180 for sex and 120 for a blowjob. I say at those prices I can only afford table dances and suggest he locate some girls for me. He informs me, I can use a credit card, and I give a hearty laugh and tell him I don’t have one, I prefer cash. Over the next 2 hours he continually tries to sell sex. The price keeps dropping, it finally bottomed out at 150 for sex and 110 for blowjob. After about two hours, he disappears and another waiter Luis is working with me for the next two or three hours.

Bolerios is completely empty, there must be 20 girls working and only 10 guys in the place. Not many people are buying dances. So my purchases seem highly appreciated.

The first chica that Abraham brings to me is Venus. She is a tall 19 year old from Nogales with perfect A cup breasts. I would rate her as and 9. She gives a hot dance, with lots of grinding, hand up my shorts and simulating a blowjob through my shorts. She and Abraham are pushing for sex, but I only agree to a privado. It is hot dance, and I spend most of the time feasting on her breasts and fingering her pussy. I almost bit on letting her finish me right now, but I wanted to sample the other talent first and their were just too many good girls to take the first one. She also has braces, which helps contribute to the teenager illusion. Errr, Ummm, actually I guess it is a teenager reality not illusion.

Next chica that is brought over is Cyalti. She is a short 20 year old with what looks like fake be-cups. She insists they are natural, but I have my doubts. I would rate her a 6 because of the seemingly fake breasts. Otherwise she has a smoking body, and can see my hard on in my shorts and pays lots of attention to it.

Next is Brenda also from Nogales. She is medium height 28 year old with a nice be cup breasts. I rate her at 7. She also sees my hard on and gives a really hot table dance. Brenda and Cyalti were trying to upsell into the privado like Venus did.

Chica 4 is Iyuki. She is short 19 year old with perfect be cup breasts. I rate a 9+, as she really should be a 10, but I don’t know if anyone can be a 10. She is from Culiacansin. I never heard of that place. Something is just not right with her. She isn’t talking and hanging out with the rest of the gang of girls. She has none of the aggressive confidence that Venus, Cyalti or Brenda had. She seems uncertain about what to do, how to sit, and seems nervous. It turns out this is only her third day working. So where the other girls wanted to get nasty and get me excited as quickly as possible. She seems completely fine to sit a talk for a while almost like a date. Eventually she gets to the dance, and does a decent job grinding but has none of the upsell of the other girls. So I decide to try her for a privado. I know it won’t be as nasty as the other chicas, but I like the idea that it will be more real. On our way down I tell Luis, I want another privado with Venus when I am done with Iyuki. Once in the Privado, I go right for feasting on her breasts. She is not as into it as Venus was but gives liberal access to them as well as touching her pussy. About 2/3 of the way through the dance, she heats up a bit. During the table dance she was cautious around my hard on, now she has it firmly against her butt working it like she is trying to grind me off and I had to actively resist cumming as I was real close to messing my shorts.

Back to Venus again. I had to wait about 20 minutes until she was available, which gave me a chance to cool off from Iyuki. We did a table dance and again she had me hard in no time and gave much pleasure to my hard on. When we went for the Privado. I started feasting on her breasts again, but after only a few minutes she said she wanted to do that, and unbuttoned my shirt put her hand up my shorts and vigorously stroked me while she licked my nipples. I was now trying my hardest not to cum, but I new it was a loosing battle, so I said lets do the blow job and paid her the 110. Her technique was good, but not great. I lasted much longer than I thought I would because instead of settling into a rhythm, she seemed to alternate between a few fast sucks and few slow sucks. Possibly she was doing this on purpose to make it last longer. She is a gothic type girl who wears a charm of the grim reaper around her neck and has the grim reaper photo on her cell phone.

Upon returning to the upstairs and sitting down again large girl number two comes over and sits down with me. Having just blown my load in Venus’s mouth, I tell her I need to rest. I had all these thin girls sitting on my leg, I couldn’t believe how much heavier this girl felt. I continued to get table dances but these where much tamer as it took me over an hour before I could get a hard on again.

Chica 5 was Ixcel from Hermosilla. I rate her an 8. She is a tall 20 year old with perfect A cups, who gave a very enjoyable dance.

Chica 6 was Joanna from Hermosilla. I rate her a 9. She is a tall 20 year old with perfect A cups. Gave a great table dance.

Chica 7 was Avril from Obregon. I rate her a 9. She is a tall 21 year old with perfect A cups. Gave a great table dance.

Chica 8 is Sierra from Guadalahara. I rate her an 8. She is a tall 25 year old with nice be cups. She gave a very hot table dance and managed to get me hard again. I am not sure if I had a hard on so she gave a hot dance, or she gave a hot dance and I got a hard on. The ability to get me hard probably has more to do with the elapsed time since Venus’s blowjob than anything special about Sierra. However I decided to reward her performance with privado. It was nice privado and I started working on her breasts but she seemed to want to be more in control so I lay back, just enjoying being hard, and let her do what she wanted. She did suggest sex a couple of times but I declined.

I was really interested in a Privado with Avril or Joanna, as I think they would both be excellent. But I did not see either one of them, and I will have to try that later in the week. There were one or two other girls I had noticed earlier but neither were around now. So we started around the horn again.

Cyalti, was presented again. I remembered her earlier table dance was hot, so I decided to skip it and go right to the privado. Again like all the other girls I started on her breasts, but they didn’t feel right in my mouth or my hands. They were fakes. After feeling up the other 7 girls, it is quite easy to tell the difference from real and fake tits. This caused me to loose interest in her breasts and my dick softened a fair amount. She tried her best and was stroking it hard and kept saying she wanted sex or a blowjob. During both dances the way she talked about the blowjob makes me think she enjoys giving them and will do a good job. I almost agreed to try a blowjob with her, but I was worried if it wasn’t a great one, I don’t think I could get off looking at her tits. So I just had her face the wall and grind against me to try and get the hard on back. I think she could tell something wasn’t right. I went to feel up her pussy and she stopped me and said I could only feel it through her panties but not inside of them. This was a surprise since Venus, Iyuki and Sierra gave me full access. But I really blame me and not her. I wasn’t as turned on by her and I think she picked up on that. I am sure with another guy she would do a great job. She wasn’t bad at all, I may still go back for her blowjob.

Iyuki was presented next. She is of course gorgeous looking. Her table dance was more aggressive than the first one, as I guess she was feeling more comfortable with me. She still kept her pants on during the whole table dance, but none of that mattered as I was back to being fully erect and could no longer remember Cyalti’s fake boobs, Down in the privado she stripped down to her G-string and I was in heaven feasting on those breasts again. Sierra actually came down to do a privado with another guy in a cube diagonal to us. This seemed to fluster Iyuki a bit and she lost her concentration. After a few minutes she had turned around and was grinding away on me. I was feeling really good and close to cumming when the dance ended. So I bought one more privado. Turned her around for little more sucking on her nipples and then back around as she sat down on my dick, I slipped my fingers into her pussy and let her grind away until I came. There was still lots of time left in the privado. She just continued to grind and grind. I am sure she felt the wetness on my shorts, but if she didn’t want to stop, I wasn’t going to tell her to stop so, I just lingered there enjoying feeling up her body.

I know I want to try out some other bars but I have hard time believing they could be better than Bolerios, and I am tempted to just spend the next few days here. I would like to repeat with Venus. I am interested in checking out Cyalti blowjob. Avril, Joanna and Ixcel are high on list to get more attention from. Sierra and Brenda seem like the second tier but I bet they would be first tier anywhere else and would all be good choices. Lastly I want more of Iyuki.

Summary ;

Venus is a tall 9 with A cups from Nogales, She did 2 table dances, 2 privados, allowed feasting on breast and finished with CBJ

Cyalti is a short 6 with fake be cups. Didn't get her town. She did 1 table dance, 1 privado, did not finish with her.

Brenda is a medium 7 with be cups from Nogales, she did 1 table dance and did not finish with her

Iyuki is a short 9+ with be cups from Culiacansin, She did 2 table dances, 3 privados, allowed feasting on breasts and finished with a Grind off

Ixcel is a tall 8 with A cups from Hermosilla, She did 1 table dance and did not finish with her.

Joanna is a tall 9 with A cups from Hermosilla, She did 1 table dance and did not finish with her.

Avril is a tall 9 with A cups from Obregon, She did 1 table dance did not finish with her.

Sierra is a tall 8 with be cups from Guadalahara, She did 1 table dance, 1 privado and allowed feasting on breasts and did not finish with her.

A great night. 2 orgasms, 10 table dances, 7 Privados, spread across 8 girls. All had tight hard bodies and firm small breasts except of Cyalti. Made a mistake here. Iyuki, was just the perfect kind of girl I am looking for.

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Marelobo Mex
06-09-07, 18:54
Back at Bolerios – fresh off a strong first night.

Upon entering I am immediately approached by a big girl. I guess they figure if they don’t get you when you come in they don’t have a chance. I decline a dance with her.

Chica 1 is Angel. She is a tall 25 year old from Obregon. She has nice be cup breasts. I would rate her a 6. Looking around the room there bodies are more plump and round than tight and hard like last night. The day shift is certainly not the night shift. She does a decent table dance and I do a privado with her also. Nice attention is given to her breasts, dance was good but not great.

Chica 2 is Jacklene. She is a 25 year only from Monterey. She has nice A cup breasts. On pure looks she would be a 9 as she is spinner thin. But she doesn’t have muscle tone and her body isn’t tight. Especially her breasts and her butt, so I have to rate her a 7. It seems to be she has some kids and the pregnancy and nursing have kind of loosened her up. I take her to the privado also. She give a very nasty dance and is pushing for sex the whole time. A couple of times she takes my dick out and give it some kisses. Her price drops from 180 all the way to 140, as I keep saying maybe lets wait until later. When we go back up stairs most of the girls go back to their corner. She asks if she can sit with me. I say sure. The waiter wants to know if I want to buy her a drink. I say no. He wants to know if I want to buy a dance from her and I say no. I figure this will move her right along. She just continues basically with the dance from our privado for the next hour. She is stroking my hard on the whole time. The first 20 minutes she is kind of camouflaging what she is doing with her legs. After that she just gives up and takes my dick out in the main room and strokes it (I have never been one to be embarrassed about my equipment). At the same time I am fingering her. I continue to say I want to wait until later before going back down. All of stimulation has me very hard. About half way through I gave her a 20 dollar tip, because this was more stimulation than many Privados I had. Finally I say I don’t want sex, but I want a blowjob, and she says ok, lets go now. So I tell her I will only go now if I can cum on her face. First time all afternoon she hesitates for a moment, but it is only a moment and she says ok. I had really wanted to do some dances with other girls first, but I also really like coming on a girls face. So as soon as we are in the Privado she says I can have sex with if I want to. I say no I want a blowjob. They she says no extra money we can still have sex. So this would have been a 110 fuck in the cubicle. Next I sit down and she grabs my dick and has done about 5 fast strokes halfway down the shaft into her mouth, before I ask her to use the condom. It seems she was planning on barebacking it. I was pretty surprised by that. Her blowjob was good and I wouldn’t have lasted long at all, except she gagged on it three times. My penis is not that big, but maybe she just has a small mouth. Finally when I can wait no longer. I stand up take the condom off and get ready to fire on her face. She first says not in her mouth. I say no, on your face. So she puts her cheek next to my dick, but right before I cum I step back so I can watch it spray out. She tries to duck out of the way, but I had lot of cum since all that teasing for the last two hours. She got pretty much hosed down and her face looks glazed. She takes a long time to get cleaned up. When we return upstairs Jacklene goes and sits with her girl friends and is repeating the story of what I just did to her. When she gets to the ejaculation part. All of the girls make a lot of noise and look over at me. I can see her showing them some of the cum still in her hair. That was a little unusual, but I guess it was a little unusual for her also.

Well I am in no condition to do anything else after dropping that big load. But I think I might just get some table dances before I leave. First a very large girl. I would rate her a 2 comes over and sits on me. I think she weighs more than me. She asks me if I like big breasts and I say no. Once she leaves another girl who is a 4 comes over also. I guess the unattractive ones need to be more aggressive. The waiter guy tells me there is a new waitress who just started and has never done a privado for anyone yet. Would I like to be her first one. I say sure, only thing is I forgot to ask what she looks like. I would rate her a 5. She is a bit heavy even though she is only 21. And she has see cup breasts. It is a surreal experience. She just stands there. Different from Iyuki who seemed inexperienced. This one seemed lost. So I tell her to sit on my lap. I unbutton her shirt. Then she starts to get the hang of it. And takes off her Bra. The first couple of times I touch her, she goes to stop me before she realizes what she is doing and then lets me continue. The waiter guy keeps checking in on her to be sure she is doing it right. One time he yells at her in Spanish to take her shorts off. It was not a sexy dance at all, but it was kind of comical and fun thing to do. The waiter offered I could fuck her and would be the first dick to get inside her at Bolerios. It is a tempting offer to break her in, I am sure others could not have refused it. For me, if she not my type, she is not my type. So I decline.

Back upstairs Chica 4 is Salome. She has nice A cups but her body is not well proportioned. I would rate her a 5. She is not happy about doing a table dance instead of a privado, but her table dance is poor, so I am guessing her privado is poor also.

By now Jacklene has recovered her composure and where ever I go in the bar she is following and sitting with me. It is nice but it is also a little too puppy doggish for me. She and some of the girls have ordered in food and when it come she tells me to pay for it. I say why? Then I tell her no. She pouts a bit, but I don’t care. Pouty girls just turn me off. She returns a minute later saying she is 1 dollar short. So I give her the dollar and think this is my cue to exit.

During the time with Jacklene, I notice several other girls I might have been interested in, but didn’t get to try them, so I guess I will just have to go back again. I decide I am tired and need to get some sleep before I return in the nighttime.

Summary;

Angel is a tall 6 with A cups from Obregon, She did 1 table dance, 1 privado and allowed feasting on breasts, and did not finish with her.

Jacklene is a short 7 with A cups from Monteray, She did 1 table dance, 2 privados, did not feast on her breasts, and finished on her face.

Waitress is a medium 5 with see cups. Did not get her city. She did 1 privado and did not finish with her.

Salome isa medium 5 with A cups. Did not ger her city. She did 1 table dance and did not finish with her.

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Marelobo Mex
06-09-07, 18:59
Although I think Bolerios is great. I decide I should try some place else. So I head into Obsessions. Right away the vibe isn’t as good for me. First the AC isn’t working or is just turned down so it is really hot in there. Second it is so dark that I can hardly see. Bolerios is dark also, but they have those purple lights so at least you have some visibility. It took my eyes about 20 minutes to adjust to the darkness and about that long to cool down so I could sit there without sweating. Now it is super loud. I think Bolerios is loud, but nothing like Obsessions, it was kind of rock concert loud. During the 20 minutes or so I am there Sheila comes to join my. She is a 28 year old from Mexico City. I would rate her a 6. She is a short girl, with a nice thin toned body, but her breasts are just a little to big for me. They are small see-cups. The few times the music stops we actually have good time talking, but it is impossible when the music is playing. One of these times she asks if I would like a dance so I say sure. Not clear if they don’t do table dances or if they only do privados. We go back in the privado. She does a very good dance. She is trying to upsell to sex which think would have been good with her. It is so loud that I can’t understand the pricing, and although her dance is sexy, I am just not turned on enough by see cups on a short girl. I know it is my own problem.

After returning to the main area, they have line up where all the girls get on stage. There are lot more girls than I thought, maybe 25. But I only see two others I would rate as a 7 the rest I would not be interested in. I thought about trying one of those other ones, but after the activities from the privado, I am sweating again. So I decide to head back to Bolerios where there is more light, it is cooler, quieter, and certain 9’s and 8’s are awaiting.

Back at Bolerios, I take up my usual seat by the back wall. By now the waiters guys are starting to recognize me. He immediately brings over Gracia. She is a tall 24 year old with perfect A cups from Hermosilla. I would rate her a 9. She does a nice table dance, and I am starting to like her. She is talking about sex, but I want to look around for a while and scope out who else is there. So I offer to buy her a drink and then say we will do a privado. She says no privado lets have sex. I am always cautious of the upsell. Her table dance was good but I want the privado to feast on those tits first. She again gets a little pouty but finally says ok to the privado. Then her drink comes and they want 22 dollars, when I ask why they say she ordered a double drink and she and the Luis (waiter guy) just stand there looking stupid at each other. I immediately start to get mad, but after a few moments I regain control again. I often tip the waiters 5 dollars at the end of the night. Luis will get nothing. I start not to like Gracia as much but am willing to overlook the indiscretion as long as she does a good job. She of course pounds her two drinks immediately and says lets go to the privado. During the dance she does not let me suck on her breasts. I am totally shocked by this. The whole time she is talking sex and stroking me, but not getting the attention of her tits I start to loose interest and loose my hard on. She apparently picks up on this and begins more vigorously stroking it. She has my shorts bunched up and has the tip of my dick in her mouth when she bites it. Ok, I don’t know what she was thinking, but that hurt, and there was still a small tooth mark on my cock several hours later. Well for the rest of dance she is trying to keep my mouth away from her breasts and I am trying to keep her mouth away from my dick. A most disappointing experience from such a hot girl. Guys be cautious around this one. When the dance ends she asks for tip. I look at her like why, but preferring not to invite drama, I give her a dollar. She has the nerve to complain that it is too small. I feel like I have been more than generous and tolerant of her bad behavior. But this has pushed me too far. So I tell her tip was the second drink that she ordered. I can see it in her eyes that she is mad, and angrily walks away. There are more people in Bolerios tonight than this afternoon and last night, but it is still not crowded. Gracia is often walking the room but she clearly avoids me for the rest of the night, which is just fine by me.

Chica 2 is Avril. I had a good table dance with her last night and the waiter guys says they are offering a two for one Privado. So I accept and am anxious to get Gracia out of my thoughts. Avril is sweet and doesn’t have any of the venom I sensed in Gracia, but she repeatedly blocks me from feasting on her breasts. And she doesn’t want me to touch her pussy even through the outside of her panties. Even Gracia let me finger her pussy. Again I feel like am in a sur-real experience. Her I am with an almost naked totally hot chica, and normally I am having to fight off the upsell for sex. She isn’t interested in any upsell. She just does her two dances and is perfectly happy with no tip. While I enjoyed her dances, it has now been about six hours since I unloaded on Jacklene, so I am really ready for another blowjob.

Chica 3 is Astria. She is a short 25 year old with nice be cups from someplace in Sonora near Monterey. I would rate her a 7. Her tits are not firm like Gracia or Avril, and I think they have been loosened up by breast feeding. She has a very beautiful face. I am not really a face guy, as long as her a face is symmetrical that is fine for me. I would describe Astria as pretty and think most guys would also. She does a good table dance and has a good attitude. After a couple of disappointing nines, I am content to go with a 7. She lets me suck on her tits, not for a long as I want but way more satisfied than Gracia or Avril. She does offer more services but it is done in a sweet kind of way and not an upsell. She is actually taking my fingers and pushing them further and further into her pussy. Most of the chicas are wet down there, but she is totally soaked. My fingers are covered in her juice, her panties have a huge wet spot on them, and the scent of pussy is heavy in the air in the little cube. This seems like just what I needed so I say lets do a blowjob. She seemed a little disappointed that I didn’t say sex, but she agrees. Normally I like to lay back and watch the suck. She had a good rhythms going and I was building towards the climax and when I got there nothing happened, then I started to get soft. Ok this was bad. She had pretty much only been working the top quarter to half of my dick. So I quickly grabbed her head and pushed it all the way in and pumped a few fast strokes. Definitely no gag reflex on this girl. That was enough for me, and I had small but draining cum. As I removed my cock from her throat she had a little shocked look on her face, but then she quickly smiled with her pretty face and asked if I liked it. I said yes. She said she liked it too. I thought what a perfect thing to say. She has a nice body, but not a smoking hot body. You face guys might rate her higher than me. She has a great attitude and I would repeat just for the attitude.

I return upstairs. As I sit down, Venus jumps on my lap. Wow she is such a hot girl, I definitely want some more of her attention. She starts stoking my dick and asks me if I want a privado, she says she will give me a blowjob again. Just what any guy wants to hear. I tell her I had one and I need to rest for an hour then I will get some dances from her. She makes a disappointed expression and says ok. Well an hour is about my minimum recovery time but that is usually after the first pop. I have already had two pops that were quite draining. During the interim Samantha from Obregon walks over and sits down with me. She is not my body type and I rate her a 5. However we are having a nice talk. She is teaching me some Spanish and I teach her some English. The waiter guy wants to know if I want to buy her a drink. I say no. I expect she will leave but she stays for about 30 minutes and we chat and teach each other some words. A very pleasant experience.

When it is Venus’s turn to dance on Stage, I go and sit by the stage, and tip her some dollars during her song. Then when she is done they call Joanna up to stage who I remembered from last night, but Venus comes right over after her songs and is attacking me. We go back to my spot on the wall, and I buy her a drink just to give myself some more recovery time. Then we do a table dance and she is nasty like yesterday, but she seems to have stopped trying to upsell. I am not sure if it because she knows I like her, or if she thinks there is nothing to upsell, since I already had a cum. She managed to get me pretty hard during the table dance. So I say I am ready to try the privados. The first one is spent almost entirely feasting on her breasts. What can you say they are perfect 19 year old A cup breasts. She again says she wants to do that to me. She is actually biting my nipples pretty hard, and a little too hard once or twice. She has a pierced tongue with a square shaped pin. I am sure this makes the blowjobs better, but it is little rough on my nipples. During the second Privado I let her control it. She is stroking me and grinding on me and couple of times I think I might be close to cumming again. So I agree to do another blowjob with her. She works really hard at it. She has better technique tonight and a good rhythm going. I she works at it for someplace between 10 and 15 minutes. She tries focusing on the top and taking the whole thing in her mouth. I get close but cannot fire the load out. The lack of sleep and prior sexual activity has taken its toll on me. So I apologize to her, and we have to finish by hand, while I finger her. I did give her an extra tip, for all of her hard work. She did not complain.

Summary;

Gracia is a tall 9 with A cups, She did 1 table dance, 1 privado, did not allow feasting on breasts, and did not finish with her. Ony one that tried to take advantage of me.

Avril is a tall 9 with A cups from Obregon, She did 2 privados, did not allow feasting on breasts, and did not finish with her.

Astria is a short 7 with be cups from Sonora, She did 1 table dance, 1 privado, allowed feasting on breasts and finished with a CBJ.

Venus is a tall 9 with A cups from Nogales, She did 1 table dance, 2 privados, allwed feasting on breasts and finished me by hand.

My original plan was two times a day. After the first day I thought I could go three times. I am thinking of going back to two times for the rest of the trip.

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Marelobo Mex
06-09-07, 19:06
I arrive at Bolerios around 7:00 p. M. And just as I walk in the door guess who is about to walk out but Jacklene. She turns around and follows me and sits down with me. She is already dressed in her street cloths. She unzips her top so I can get a view but she has tight shorts on and there is nothing she can do about those. So I buy her a drink and she starts stoking my cock. She asks if I want a dance so I say sure, she says it has to be a privado. I shrug and say ok. Well it is just as nasty of dance as yesterday. She is saying lets do a blowjob. I say no, after several no’s she says she will do it for 80 dollars. I still say no. She wants to know why. I said I just arrived there is no way I going cum in the first 15 minutes. Then I didn’t add this but I thought and not with the first girl. She was a little pouty. Back upstairs I tell her I am not buying any more dances but she can sit and stroke my dick for a long as she wants. I decline all requests to buy her a drink. I notice several other girls who are interesting but I know Jacklene is leaving soon and it is hard to tell an attractive girl to stop stroking your dick. Well she lasts a whole hour before she makes one final offer. She says she has to go, but I should go with her and go back to her house. Since she has three kids, I can’t see how this could possibly work out well. I doubt there is a boyfriend or a husband, but it just seems like way too much trouble. So I tell her I am staying at Bolerios. After she leaves I grab one of the waiters and say I want to do some table dances with three different girls.

Chica 1 is Samatha a medium height 5 with nice be cups, who is not my ideal body type but we had nice talk last night so I agree to do a dance. It was a good dance by nothing special. As she is 26 years old, I think I can do better.

Chica 2 is Alondra. She she is a tall 25 year old with perfect A cups from Nogales. I rater her a 6. She does a nice dance but not aggressive at all. After last night I ask her if we go down to the privado can I suck on her breast and she agrees.

Chica 3 is Kimberly who is a tall 28 year old with nice be cups. Again not my ideal body type. It was a good dance but nothing special.

Next I tell the waiter guy, I am ready for a privado with Alondra. She doesn’t try to upsell at all. I start with some feasting on breasts and have a good hard on going which she pays nice attention to.

Chica 4 is Joanna, who I missed privados with the first two nights. We start with a table dance and again I ask her if I can suck her breasts in the Privado. She says she likes that. Right answer I thought. So almost the whole dance I have her tits in my mouth. I have a big hard on which she is lightly squeezing. She is doing a slow grind on me, if it was any faster I probably would have lost it right there. The only critique is she didn’t want my hand inside her pussy. She let me rub it through her panties.

When I go up they are doing a 2 for 1 privado, and Venus is just walking up on the stage. I say no problem I take her. Her dance is hot as always and I am struggling to hold back. Near the end she asks if I want a blowjob again or go to the room and have sex this time. I tell her I am ok to go to the room but I just want a blowjob. She say it will be 150. And then I say but I want to come on your face. She is complains that it will get in her eyes and ruin her make-up. So I say she can cover her eyes with her hand. She say 180 and ok. Well I think I didn’t negotiate too well, but I agree. Only issue is someone is already using the room. So I say we can wait and she says no, we go to another room. It seems they keep all the liquor in here but have added a chair and it does have a bathroom. The one nice thing is it has a normal light, not the dark lights like the rest of the club so I get a good look at her body in good light and it is smoking hot. I lick her breasts, she licks mine. She is stroking me pretty fast and I almost cum. So I sit down in the chain and she starts in with the blowjob. It is short one only maybe a few minutes, because I am just to ready to go. So we switch position and she is sitting on the chair. I get a good view of her pussy in the natural light and use this time to cool down a bit. Then I take my dick and run it all over her face. It is totally hot scene. I tell her I am ready to cum. She leans back in the chair and I cover her with sperm. She look a lot like Jacklene from yesterday. Totally glazed. Only with Jacklene I pretty much did her face, shoulders and the top of her chest. With Venus I have covered her whole body except her legs. She keeps saying she needs a shower now. It takes her a long while to clean up so I just watch her wipe all the sperm off of her body.

So I return upstairs and think about leaving because that was a very draining orgasm. But the guys on the right of me has Cyalti on his lap and she is kind of hot to watch. After she takes him for a privado she ends up on the guys lap on my left. It seems she was dancing for whoever was sitting next to me all night. Then they turn the lights up on the stage and have a stage show. It is heavy girl dressed as a police officer with a didlo where her gun should be. She does a dance and strips down then guys are tipping her a buck to push the dildo into her. I have no interest in partaking but it is fun to watch. Then Venus jumps up on stage with this girl and they simulate a lesbian show. Also pretty hot. Then a third girl gets up on stage with a guy and the three girls proceed to undress him. He is enjoying until they take off his boxers. All of a sudden he gets modest. The girls actually pin him down. Venus is sitting on his face/chest, another girl on his stomach, and the third girl on his legs. The other two girls get off and Venus turns around and gets in the 69 position with him. It is pretty wild to watch.

I have been resting for about an hour when Sierra comes over to sit with me. I am still worried an hour is not enough recovery time. So I buy her a couple of drinks. We have a good conversation. Her English is ok and she understands a lot of my bad Spanish. She is lightly stroking me. So I agree to do a dance with her. She is not totally hot like Joanna or Venus, but something about her is very sexy and she manages to get me hard. Then we move down to the privado and she is giving a pretty hot dance. I got a good amount of time with her be cups in my mouth. She is paying lots of attention to my dick. She does not try to upsell tonight, but then asks if I am interested in anything beside just a dance. I respond on automatic pilot saying 180 is just too much money. She says she will meet me at my hotel tomorrow for 120. That sounds like a pretty excellent offer to me. However I tell her my hotel is in Tuscon. So she suggests we meet at the Hotel California (I almost thought she was joking when she said that) which will cost 40 more dollars for a room. 160 isn’t such a great deal, but the idea of trying a hotel room with her sounds interesting so we make plans to meet at 5:00. I believe strippers are notoriously late, but before she leaves she lectures me not to be late. Since Sierra seemed to get the blood back in my penis, I have Joanna brought over again for a drink. Before she has always been quiet when sitting with me or dancing for me. She says she doesn’t know any English, but for some reason she is in a chatty mood. I learn she has one son, and has only been working as a stripper for two months. That turns me on even more, and also explains why she doesn’t try to upsell. She tells me she is a good girl and she doesn’t drink and doesn’t smoke, she doesn’t have any tattoos or any piercings. I tell her I don’t believe her about the alcohol as I just bought her a drink. She says it is apple juice. I take a taste and it is. Then they call 2 – 1 Privados so I take Joanna down. I have a pretty good hard on going, but she just isn’t grinding hard enough and fast enough to get me off.

So I figure it time to have one more cum, and I tell the waiter guy to bring Venus back over. He gone for about 15 minutes and says he can’t find her. So I know that means she either left or is fucking. My guess is fucking some guy.

So I look up on stage and there is Astria. I liked her face and attitude yesterday, so have her brought over and she does a table dance just so I can get hard again. Then we head down to the privado. I get her breasts for about half the dance and then she turns around and grinds on me. It is good pace but I am not able to come. I go to straighten out my short and she takes my dick and jerks it through the shorts until finally I cum again. She does not have a smoking hot body, but she is a very erotic and pretty girl and I just seem to like her.

I would say another good night, with lots of interesting possibilities. Only disappointment is two nights in a row with out seeing Iyuki. I definitely want more Iyuki attention.

Summary;

Jacklene is a short 7 with A cups from Monteray, She did 1 privado and I did not finish with her.

Samantha is a medium 5 with be cups from Obregon, she did 1 table dance, and I did not finish with her.

Alondra is a tall 6 with A cups from Nogales, she did 1 table dance, 1 privado, allowed feasting on breasts, and I did not finish with her.

Joanna is a tall 9 with A cups from Hermosilla, she did 2 table dances, 3 privados, and allowed feasting on breasts, and I did not finish with her.

Venus is a tall 9 with A cups from Nogales, she did 2 privados and allowed feasting on breasts, finished on her face.

Sierra is a tall 8 with be cups from Guadalahara, she did 1 table dance, 1 privado, allowed feasting on breasts, and I did not finish with her.

Astria is a Short 7 with be cups from Sonora, she did 1 table dance, 1 privado, allowed feasting on breasts, and finished me by hand.

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Marelobo Mex
06-09-07, 19:12
I arrive at the Hotel California (I still can’t believe that is the name) at 4:55 and sit on the step waiting for Sierra. By the time it is 5:10 and Sierra has not arrived, I am starting to think she is not coming. I know only about 60% of meetings actually take place. I go inside the hotel to look around and sit down at a table and thumb through my English/Spanish dictionary until 5:30. Since I am dressed in the street clothes and not my mongering outfit I decided to leave, get some sleep so I will be in a better mood for Bolerios.

I enter Bolerios at 9:00 and Sierra comes right over she apologizes and says she did not arrive until 6:00. Not sure if I believer her, but I had kind of made up my mind that I wanted her today. That was a bad decision as it took some of the negotiating power away from me. I should have right when she didn’t show moved on to the next girl. Instead we do a table dance and then a privado. She is hot girl, with good breasts and a good body. She suggests that we can do a blowjob in the bar or I can wait until 3:00 a. M. When she gets off of work. I tell her I am not interested in the 3:00 a. M. Option, I don’t want to get stood up again. I also don’t want a blowjob the minute I walk in the bar so I ask her how much. She says 120 and we can go in the room. I say maybe we will do one later. So she tells me to wait a moment and goes and talks to one of the guys. She comes back and says we can go to the room for 103. That is the best offer I have had yet. I say ok, but lets wait until later.

Chica 2 is again Joanna. What can you say about Joanna other than she is smoking hot body, and lets me feast on her breasts. Each time she dances for me she gets a little more aggressive. It is still tame compared to some of the other girls. But immensely pleasurable and she always leaves me with a good hard on.

Chica 3 is Venus. She is also smoking hot, and super nasty. I feast on her breasts for a while, and she then does the same to me. She is stroking me the whole time and I am feeling very good. I think about giving up on Sierra and just let Venus pleasure me. I decide I really want Sierra, so Venus looks a little surprised that we just finish the dance and I don’t ask for more.

I have the waiter guy fetch Sierra for me and she does a table dance and asks if I am ready. Say maybe and ask her if I can cum on her face. She says maybe but she needs a propina for that and suggests 30 dollars. I was thinking 20, but I agree. We head down stairs and I pay the 103 but we go to the cube instead of the room. I ask her why and she says she doesn’t know. Again I should have argued the point but I was just focusing on getting my dick in her mouth and let this slide also. She does a nice sexy dance and we move on to the blowjob she is working it pretty well, doesn’t have great technique but I am pretty ready to go. I stop her and go to take the condom off and she says she doesn’t want me to come on her face just finish in the condom. I am like what is going on, so I sit back down but mentally I am not with it. First the hotel, then the room, now the finish. Everything with her is changing. She works on it a good ten minutes but I am getting softer instead of harder and she ends up finishing me by hand. Nice body and nice dances, but too much miscommunication and overall a disappointment.

I go upstairs and sit down for a while and then Venus comes over and sits down with me. Which just makes it completely clear that I should have gone with her again. I get her a couple of drinks and we talk for a while. She confirms last night when I couldn’t find her she was busy having a good fuck. But she tells me she is horny again and wants to get a good fuck from me tonight. What a nice thing to say. The whole time she is bouncing around and rubbing my pants and showing me her goodies. I am not really hard, but I do start to get some blood going back into my member. Only thing is she has her hair up in a bun tonight and she looks much sexier with it down and long past her shoulders. She leaves to do her dance routine on the stage.

During this time and bunch of guys and a girl come in and sit down. When Venus is done with her stage show, they bring her over and she dances for one of the guys for a few minutes and then moves on to the girl. This is right in front of me and I have a great view of it. At first the girl is kind of shy, but you can see Venus is totally turning her on. The first few times Venus grabs the girls tits she resists but after I while Venus is licking them and she has her hand up under the girls skirt. It is totally hot to watch. The guy, the girl and Venus all go down to the privado. After watching this I am ready for some more action myself.

Ixcel is next. I had a chance with her the first night. But she was first dance after Venus took care of me, and I didn’t get to really appreciate her. She gave sexy table dance and very enjoyable privado, with lots of feasting on breasts. I remember her as good the first night, but she seemed hotter and sexier tonight. She did try and upsell at the end but it was very sweetly done. I thought about it. I would really like more time with her.

Chica 6 is different Joanna. She is super tall, over 5’8’’ and has see cup breasts. They don’t look bad on her because she is go tall. She is 25 from Mazatlan. She does a nice table dance which earns her a privado also. I would rate her a 7. It was a sexy dance and some good feasting on breasts.

Chica 7 is Nirvana. She is 9 with a smoking hot body and nice A cups. She is 25 from Chihauhau. She is not into the table dance and wants to go right to the privado. I keep saying table first, it was only an ok dance. She does some light grinding and shows me her pussy a couple of times, but she never takes her top off or gives access to her breasts. I am disappointed by this and decide to skip the privado.

So after her I want a more positive experience and grab Venus for another round. We do a privado and she has me very hard. She is doing all kinds of nasty stuff, but the best is with her standing up and me fingering her pussy with she strokes me off. Time came before I did, so I did a second dance and very shortly into this one she jerked me off.

Two hand jobs wasn’t really what I was thinking of for tonight so I guess it would have to be a disappointment and in both cases the girl had to work really hard to get the job done. It seems too many orgasms in a short time and a general lack of sleep are taking the toll on me.

Summary;

Sierra is a tall 8 with be cups from Guadalahara, She did 2 table dances, 2 privados, allowed feasting on breasts, and finished me by hand.

Joanna is a tall 9 with A cups from Hermosilla, She did 1 table dance, 1 privado, allowed feasting on breasts, and I did not finish with her.

Venus is a tall 9 with A cups from Nogales, She did 1 table dance, 3 privados, allowed feasting on breasts, and finished me by hand.

Ixcel is a tall 8 with A cups from Hermosilla, She did 1 table dance, 1 privado, allowed feasting on breasts and I did not finish with her.

Joana2 is a tall 7 with see cups from Mazatlan, She did 1 table dance, 1 privado, allowed feasting on breasts, and I did not finish with her.

Nirvana is a short 9 with A cups from Chihauhau, She did 1 table dance (never took her top off), and I did not finish with her.

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Marelobo Mex
06-09-07, 19:16
I arrive late at 10:00 p. M.

I had told Venus last night about my interest in having two girls at the same time. So she immediately comes over and sits down with me. I buy her a drink and she is pretty much attacking me right there on the main floor. So I told her I am still interested in 2 Chicas at the same time. She suggests Gracia. I say I don’t like her. So she suggests Avril. Avril has a smoking hot body, but her privado was not very good. So I say maybe, well Venus quickly explains the deal to Avril and I buy her a drink also and the two girls are pretty much attacking me. Avril is not as aggressive as Venus, but way more aggressive than the other night during her privado. So I decide to take Avril down for Privado and try her out again. This one was much better with feasting on her breasts and lots of stroking action. During the privado I confirm the deal with her about a double blowjob with Venus. She has never tried to upsell, not even now.

Chica 2 is Joanna again. She is just a smoking hot girl. Every time she dances for me she gets a little bit nastier. I have the feeling in six months she will be much more like Venus than she is now. She is just grinding away on me for most of the dance and I was almost close to cumming a couple of times.

For the last two nights I have had Luis write out a list of the girls working so I could be sure to try out the new talent. He brings over Viviana. She is not my body type at all, as she is neither thin nor has small breasts. I don’t know why Luis brings her by. Luis is kind of just about selling the drinks and the dances. Irvin is much better waiter guy and keeps the right kind of girls coming plus he doesn’t pressure the sell like Luis does. I would recommend working through Irvin instead of Luis if you get the chance.

Chica 3 is Helen. Her English is pretty good. She is a large girl. Not fat but big boned. She is tall enough that she has see cup breasts and they look pretty good. She is 25 and from Hermosilla. I get a table dance from her and she is complaining about why not a privado. Her table dance was pretty good, but she made a comment about how I only like skinny girls as she has been watching me the last few nights. She says it like there is something wrong with liking skinny girls, so I like skinny girls what is the problem. I don’t like that attitude coming from her, so decline the privado with her.

Next I ask for Alondra who I liked last night although her body is not that hot, but her tits are nice A cups. She is apparently busy at the time. So I have Venus and Arvil brought back over. I get them each a drink and they are again all over me. Stroking me, and letting me feel up there bodies. Venus starts rubbing her pussy which I always like to watch. I confirm the price and they want 300 to do it. I think that is too high and I offer 250. They don’t want to go that low. I know either one of them on there own might go lower but together they don’t want the other to know they are taking less. Plus negotiating with two instead of one on one makes the power swing in their direction. I should have negotiated for two with just Venus and then let her negotiate with Avril. It is another lesson learned. So I say for 300 then I don’t have any money for a propina. I tend to be a generous tipper for a good blowjob. They agree a propina is not necessary. The both strip naked in the room. And each one is licking one of my nipples, while Venus is making sure I get a good hard on with her hand. Then she slides down to start the blowjob while I make excellent use of Avril body. I am feeling pretty good, so I have them switch and Avril takes over the blowjob. Her technique isn’t nearly as good as Venus’s. And I am staying hard but having a difficult time cumming. So she sucks it for a long time. While Venus is all over me with her tongue and I get as much licking in on her body as I can. Finally Avril gets the job done, and it was a most satisfying experience. Avril is sweet and Venus is slutty and together they made a very good combination.

As soon as I sit back down upstairs. Sierra comes over and asks if I am ready for a dance. I say no but I will buy her a drink. She asks if I want a blowjob again. But her blowjob wasn’t that great, so I tell her I just had one. She looks disappointed. We talk for a while and I find out she is the only girl in the bar that doesn’t already have a kid. She said she really wants one and a husband also. I think she is never going to find one in here. She is stroking me the best she can, but I am totally limp at this point. So I do not even get a dance with her.

Once she leaves Alondra comes over, and asks if I want a dance with her. I would have earlier, but with no way of getting a hard on for a while, I think it is better to decline her also.

After Avril finishes her set on stage she heads right over to me and sits down. She never bothers to put her top on which I like quite a bit. For the price of a drink, she is all over me for the next half and hour. Who knows she could be so sexy. I am not really hard yet, but her 21 year old body has managed to get the blood flowing back into my dick. I was planning on leaving in a few minutes. But after Avril finishes with me, I decide to get another beer and stick around for a while.

I have Joanna brought over to amuse me during this drink, and get her tits out and fondle her as much as I can while she sits with me. Funny thing is she ordered a vodka, and the other night she told me she didn’t drink alcohol. After I caught her in that lie, she pretended not to like the vodka, but I think we all know better. She has an awesome body and is sexy, but is still getting comfortable with being a stripper. She will perfect in a few more months.

I think about pulling Venus one last time, but she is dancing for another guy and it is getting quite late. So I decide to head out.

Summary;

Avril is a tall 9 with A cups from Obregon, She did 4 table dances, 2 privados, allowed feasting on breasts and finished me with a CBJ.

Joanna is a tall 9 with A cups from Hermosilla, She did 2 table dances, 1 privado, allowed feasting on breasts, and I did not finish with her.

Helen is a tall 6 with see cups from Hermosilla, She did 1 table dance, and I did not finish with her.

Venus is a tall 9 with A cups from Nogales, She did 2 table dances, 1 privado, allowed feasting on breasts, and finished me with a CBJ (Same one as Avril)

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Marelobo Mex
06-09-07, 19:22
Nogales was as Nogales always is for me. It is a great time and some wicked fun. The costs were higher than I would want, but spent less money than I could have. 10 pops spread over 5 days is more frequency than I am used to, and I often found myself exhausted.

I spent hours feeling up 21 different hard tight girls bodies and did plenty of feasting on breasts with 10 of them. I had the opportunity to sit back relax and be pleasured. Although all of the girls displayed there sexual power. I would have to break them up into sexy sweet and sexy slutty.

Sexy Sweet
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Iyuki
Joanna
Avril
Ixcel
Sierra

Sexy Slutty
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Jacklene
Venus
Cyalti
Gracia

I lived out some sexual opportunities I had been wanting for a long time, by cuming on two girls faces and having two girls pleasure me at the same time. I watched a hot triple lesbian show and had a great view of Venus feeling up some girl who came in with her boyfriend. Both very wild things to see.

Some decent deals were offered. Lowest prices was always from Jacklene. Sex for $105, Blowjob for $80, Bareback Blowjob, and offered to go back to her house. If you like slutty girls she is the one for you. Sex always could be bargained down from $180 to $150. Blowjobs always went from $120 to $110. Sierra offered a blowjob at $103. She also offered a hotel date at $120, which she did not keep. A waitress was offered up as a chance to be the first monger to stick a dick in her. I passed as she was not that attractive to me. I know some of you guys would be interested in that, regardless of how she looked. She wasn’t bad looking just not my type.

All of girls have kids except for Sierra.

After speaking with several of the waiters (who buy the way Irvin was the best one, by far). He saved me money several times, his English is pretty good, and he brought over the girls shaped the way I like, and made sure they had their tops off, he never pressured the sales for drinks or dances. Both Luis and Abraham were much more high pressure.) and several of the dancers. The prices where explained this way. In prior years the clubs only sold dances at $23 and then the mongers negotiated with the girls for sex between $40 - $80 dollars. Most of the time when a guy would go for sex he would buy between 3-5 dances so he wouldn’t be interrupted. Price range between $69 - $115. Now they have fixed the price for the club at $100 for the girl to have sex and the girls still sets her own price. They all start at $180. When the price drops from $180 to $150. The club still takes $100, and the girl only gets $50. In light of this knowledge I don’t ever see prices going down unless some new club owned by different people decides to charge a lower club price.

For all of you guys who are staying away, it is greatly appreciated. As it was completely empty Thrusday night, Friday Afternoon, Sunday night and Monday night. There were a few people there on Friday night, and it was about half full on Saturday night. The number of girls out numbered the guys every time I was there. The girls seemed appreciative and hungry for business and money. Sex was pushed much more than in prior visits. Although last time I was there was over three years ago.

Despite all the positives. There are always are disappointments.

Iyuki was clearly what I was looking for and she was only there the first night. On my first and third trips to Nogales I met girls similar to Iyuki and was seriously hoping for a repeat. If any of you guys go and get her, I will be most jealous reading about it.

All of the blowjobs (Venus, Jacklene, Astria, Sierra, and Avril) were above average. Venus was a couple of sucks better than the rest, hence repeated with her 4 times and all the others just once. If the other four were above average. Venus was good. But she was not awesome. Like the girl from my last trip to Nogales. I suspect the Cyalti, although I didn’t like her tits, would have given the best blowjob. I could kind of sense by the way she said it and the look in her eyes, that she likes doing it and knows she is good at it. It was probably a mistake not to give her a chance and try her blowjob.

I let Jacklene keep the other girls away from me on the day shift. It is hard to tell someone who is pleasuring you to stop. But I never had the chance try out the other girls and should have controlled the situation better.

It would have been great to have another guy to hang out with between pops, compare notes and talk about the chicas and learn from. I had a good time talking with the girls, but some topics like the last girl you were with are not appropriate. My first trip down was with a buddy, otherwise I have always gone solo. I think I might enjoy it even more if I was hanging out with a few other mongers.

The power of youth. The 19-21 (Iyuki, Venus, Joanna, Avril, Ixcel, and Cyalti) crowd is super hot. And definetly the A list of all the girls I wanted to repeat with.

By the time they get to the 24-28 (Gracia, Sierra, Astria, Jacklene, Alondra, Brenda) crowd age has already started to effect them. Gracia seemed to be the one exception, but since she was the one girl who tried to take advantage/cheat me, I stayed away from her, but she did have a smoking hot body. Sierra is the best probably because she doesn’t have the mileage of giving birth on her body. Brenda seemed next, but I only had one dance from her. Astria had the best attitude of all the girls and that caused me to get many dance from her. She also had the prettiest face.

I was happy to arrive, but I am happy leave, although I know if I stayed a few more days I would have lots of fun and some more wild experiences. I plan to go back, but likely it will be several years until I return. I have gotten my fill of those activities unavailable from the ladies who are normally in my life.

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Mr Chub
06-11-07, 17:37
Thanks for your reports Marlebo.

Sounds like you had a ball!

Where did you stay and what times did the strip joints open?

Marelobo Mex
06-14-07, 07:25
Mr Chub,

Did have a ball.

The earliest I went was to Bolieros at 2:00 p.m.

I believe they open at 1:00 p.m, the day shift works 1:00 - 8:00 p.m. and the night shift works 8:00 p.m. to 3:00 a.m.

I felt the night shift quality was better, but I did not sample much of the day shift. Let me know if you find some good ones.

Marelobo

Muffdiver21
06-29-07, 04:20
Went to Nogales on Wednesday, had some luck at Lust's Club. The manager let me take a girl back to the Hotel Poncho Villa, for only $160 dollars. It was much better than a closet. Took a shower with her, soaped her all up and down before full sex. Then I went out and checked on all the other club's. Placers has turned into a real dive, they even took out the pool table. This used to be the most happening place 5 years ago. TD Obsessions and Bolero's usually have at least one good looking girl. At Bolero's they let me take a night shift girl to the bedroom at Placers for only $180. Much better than the $260 for taking her to your hotel room.

SpermFactory
07-01-07, 09:00
Hey, has anybody checked out the massage parlor action on the Nogie strip? I was down there trolling last Thursday night, and walked by one with no intention of entering, but the chica on the doorstep was pretty freakin hot and gave me a little "hit this" look so I turned around. I went in, and the guy lines up all the girls and introduces them for you to choose. I chose Rosie, the one I had just checked, and they charged me $40 to go back for 40 minutes. After she changed into her professional masseuse outfit, she came in and I couldn't get her lower than 1.0 for guaranteed anything goes. That was a little more than I am used to paying, but it was well worth it - she was clean and tight, scored a perfect 10 on the snatch scale, and was cool as hell.

Also, to touch on something LoveLOS mentioned awhile back, I had actually been boycotting Nogie for about the last six months because the last two times I was down there I was arrested by la pinche policia. The first time was sort of my fault as they happened to follow some guy down an alley where I was taking a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140), but the last time I was doing absolutely nothing besides walking down the sidewalk. I was stopped and they pulled me aside and threw me to the side of their truck to search me. Unfortunately, I was loaded with crumpled bills and rubbers, which they assembled on the hood. They let me go, but saw me walking a half hour later and came and threw me in the truck. Both times, it was the same thing - they drove me around for about 15 minutes taunting me, trying to scare the hell out of me (worked), and then I offered them some cash and the crooked dicks took it. I paid $40 the first time and $60 the second, which may or may not be high, but if there is one thing I don't mind paying too much for, it's staying the hell out of Mexican jail.

Marelobo Mex
07-14-07, 17:53
SF,

I didn't try the massage places but your report sounds good. Although I always like the idea that she has to dance around for an hour getting me interested. Just sitting their looking cute isn't as much fun for me.

As for the policia, I hardly saw them and I walked all over town.

I am wondering if they remembered you from their first experience with you. I know this stuff happens, but I didn't think it happened that often.

Marelobo

2nd Chance
08-04-07, 20:58
Man... I know this has been a topic for some time now, but DAMN! The prices these girls are charging in Nogie is freakin ridiculous. Yep, the good old days are FAR gone for me. When these 7's and 8's start asking $100-$150 for FS, it's time to get out of Dodge.

Shit, I can get a Professional in Phoenix Metro area for $200 for an unrushed 1hr of total GFE bliss. In addition, they speak english! If I want a latina... no prob. There to be had for $200.

Driving to Nogie from NW Phoenix Metro is a 2 hour ride. The loss of time and gas is just no longer worth it. I rather pay the $200-$250 locally and get quality professionals.

I think we all should boycott Nogales. Take our business elsewhere. Do what the damn illegal immigrants are doing to us. Have a boycott for 3-4 months. Don't step a foot into Nogie and let them dry up for a bit. Maybe they'll come to their senses and lower their rates.

I know you Tucson people are easily tempted by the short ride to Nogie... but stand firm! Boycott them and help lower their prices!

Until then.. I'm keeping away and staying either local or flying to SanDiego and going south from there.


This is just FREAKIN nuts!

Amigo69
08-06-07, 04:08
I agree. I live in Phoenix also. I stopped going to Noggie 2 years ago. The drive to Mexicali is only 45 minutes longer and 7's and 8's can be had for $60/hr. I have even had TLN with 7's for $125. And there is more to do than Monger. Mexicali is a nice city. Read the Mexicali forum and PM me if you like. In Phoenix I can have 6's and 7's for $150 /hr.

I don't know why the prices are so high but when you read about guys paying the high prices and not caring that is going to happen.

Take care

Amigo69

Mr Chub
08-09-07, 17:20
Hey everyone,

Took a quick day trip to Nogie yesterday afternoon and stopped by a few tanga bars to see and hopefully get some action. My first stop was Placers and this place really sucked! Only had 3 girls working and they all looked really old and saggy, not my thing. I had one beer and walked over to Bolerios and quickly left from there as well. All they had were a bunch of fatties.

Now pissed I walked to Obsession where it was better than the other two but not by much. The first little thing I saw was a hot chica who was hanging out with some gringos and having a good time. She went to the privados with the three of them and I did not want to be the caboose of that train so I had to find some other girl. I was then approached by a girl whos name I forgot. Looked young so I asked how old she was and told me she was 23. Had a really pretty face but she told me that she had a kid about 3 months ago so her figure was not up to par. We had a good conversation for a good 45 min to an hour or so and she asked if I wanted to go to privado. I told her that I would like to but that I really did not have a lot of doe and she asked me how much I was willing to spend. I took Marelobos advice on not letting them know how you have so I told her the lowest she was willing to go. She then told me $110 for fs and I quickly agreed.

Now, for those of you who don't know, Obsession's management has changed. If you take a girl to the privados for action, they take you to a room with couches for an hour which I prefer than a booth. Took the entire hour with her for two pops with no extra charge and also left with her phone number.

I know that the prices are pretty high in Nogales and a lot of mongers have been boycotting it. I agree and this is why I only go once a year or so. Used to go more often but way to expensive. I think that if we can get the prices dropped a bit if you can talk them down. I know it happened to me.

Take care,

M.C.

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Ed...
08-10-07, 00:51
"She then told me $110 for fs and I quickly agreed."

Not too bad, but you still had to pay $50 for the room, correct?

I have to agree with Nogi being the worst over-all sizable border town, north or south.
The caveat is it offers the best strip club scene-go figure.

Ed...

Mr Chub
08-11-07, 03:52
That price included the room and the service all together.

Scott Bkinaz
08-16-07, 05:48
Glad someone got lucky down there I stopped going to nogie. It used to be great but thanks too a few rogue people with big pockets that all changed. Haven't tried Mexicali but will check this out. I agee though with an earlier post While at school in Pheonix for two weeks tried a few Craig list girls and had a real good time with these girls. As for multiple girls in a nite for several nites I like TJ Average $60 plus $12 for the room/per girl with street girls going for $30, some are really hot. Prices in Nogie will not come down I've been hoping for over seven years You will always have a couple useful idiots paying the high price to "keep out the riff raff". Thank God for other places not going this very dangerous way.

Ed...
08-18-07, 01:22
"That price ($110) included the room and the service all together"


Half hour in Obsession's room is 50 bucks by yourself. An hour can be had for another twenty to the ticket guy. Then there's always the doorman. The girls will do it all for fifty, I guess she pocketed less.

Good job Mr Chub but this doesnt happen often. If it did, the place would busy seven days a week.
Ed...

Marelobo Mex
08-20-07, 06:52
Mr. Chub,

Glad to see you negotiated well. Next time try countering with $100 or $90. She might just go for it. You can alway agree to $110 if she says no.


Hey everyone,

I took Marelobos advice on not letting them know how you have so I told her the lowest she was willing to go. She then told me $110 for fs and I quickly agreed.

Mr Chub
08-22-07, 19:11
I should have but I was pretty surprised when she gave me that price so I jumped on it.

SexHobbyist
09-16-07, 18:34
I think we all should boycott Nogales. Take our business elsewhere.
I know you Tucson people are easily tempted by the short ride to Nogie... but stand firm! Boycott them and help lower their prices!

I haven't been to Nogie in a looooooong time. I'm not boycotting. I'm finding everything I need and could get in Nogie right here in Tucson's strip clubs. The price is right considering the time and gasoline spent driving to Nogie. FS, bbbj, gfe, dfk, everything. Why waste the time and gasoline to go to Nogales?

Perhaps if the purveyors in Nogie woke up to realize that they have priced themselves out of the competition for the monger dollars, they might revise their business plan. The serious mongers in Tucson know where to go....and Nogales isn't it.

Sexhobbyist

LoveLOS
10-26-07, 05:00
Next chica that is brought over is Cyalti. She is a short 20 year old with what looks like fake be-cups. She insists they are natural, but I have my doubts. I would rate her a 6 because of the seemingly fake breasts. Otherwise she has a smoking body, and can see my hard on in my shorts and pays lots of attention to it.Great reporting brotha.

And they are real... :p

LL

SexHobbyist
10-29-07, 16:21
I'm planning a trip to Nogie this Friday and/or Saturday evenings. I'm familiar with the clubs and protocol so I'm just scouting the area prior to the arrival of LoveLOS and Company—I have to sample/ravage them first. And, having become TOO familiar with the Tucson strip clubs, I'm looking for a change of scenery and to see if Nogie has anything left to offer the dedicated monger that Tucson doesn't have. If there is anyone who would like to meet up, then PM me at the USASexGuide forum.
Sexhobbyist

SexHobbyist
11-04-07, 19:14
I drove to Nogales, had the first fast food in more than a decade at the Burger King, parked, and walked to the border where I met up with senior member AZrobert—a Nogales veteran. We crossed the border and walked to Boleros where the evening officially began.

The $20 experience.
I've ranted in previous posts about the business/economic model used by the clubs in Nogales and espoused that they have priced themselves out of the market as far as Tucson customers are concerned. This adventure solidified my beliefs.

For $20 in a Tucson club you can get the three or four highly effective table dances with good mileage or one or two VIP dances where hj and/or bj are included. Yes, for $20 in a Tucson club you can get a bbbj. At the very least, you'll have a dance or two to see if the future foretells a happy ending. You can spend the time enjoying the experience without the "hard sell" to spend money on other services. You can let the dancer take the initiative and, depending on her attitude, allow her to put you into your own universe as she plays with your equipment. All for 20 bucks. If you want to tip extra, it's appreciated by the dancers.

$20 in a Nogales club buys you....(wait for it)....nothing. Zero. Zilch. Nada. The minimum price to play south of the border is $23 (plus tips). What does $23 buy you? It gets you six minutes in a small room—often described as closets although they've become somewhat bigger and more accommodating—where the dancer will grind your crotch and you can grope her t&a. That's it. No hj. No bj. ("That's biiiiig money, señor.") The hj, included in the price of the dance in a Tucson club, is $100 in Nogales. The bj is $130. The going rate for full service is $180. Are you beginning to see why the Tucson mongers stay close to home?

Sidebar: This leads me to another rant, but I'm controlling myself. Nevertheless, I'll mention to the uninitiated that prices in Nogales are somewhat negotiable every day of the week except Friday and Saturday. Since we were there on a Saturday, there wasn't much "give and take" when it came to prices—just a few dollars discounted. So, one has to resort to subterfuge to get what one wants as you'll see later in this report.

Back to the report: So, you can't take your dick out of your pants, you can't have a fulfilling experience, and you can't expect extras without paying extra. Worst of all, you are subjecting yourself to six minutes of upcharging to get you to purchase the bj or fs. It's a mood killer and a waste of your $23 (plus tips). Oh, one more thing...did I mention that everyone has their hands in your pocket for tips? There's the cover charge guy, the waiter, the floor pimp who sells you your dance ticket, the guy who admits you to the private rooms, and the dancer. Oh, yeah, and the parasite tout who runs after you to "escort" you to the club. Before long, your $23 dance is now costing about $30-$35, depending on the worthiness of your dancer and you don't get didley other than a grind and groping.

My Nogales club methodology is to sit and wait for some sweet thing to plant herself in my lap. If she begins to play with the equipment, then I'll buy her a chica drink ($10-12 each depending on the club—$4-6 in Tucson clubs for dancer drinks) to encourage her to continue and to give me time to see if she's a worthy dancer. While she's playing with my dick, I'll be checking her out with my hands and giving her some tests to see if she flinches. If she passes the tests, I'll buy a private dance just so I can get the grind and grope the t&a. If the dancer sits in my lap and expects to be treated as a queen just because she's eye candy and she doesn't have the initiative to take charge of the arousal treatment, then I'll pass on the drinks and dance.

AZrobert and I visited four clubs—Boleros, Placers, Club 69 (formerly Lipsticks), and Candy Club (formerly Obsessions). I had great dancer experiences all night long with one exception in Boleros where I lustily went after a beauty with no talent when I saw her on stage for the "cattle call" instead of trying her out first.

Boleros
A nice selection of attractive women. Too many, too little time. I saw a cute little spinner (sorry LoveLOS, but I couldn't resist) and sent the floor pimp after her to fetch her to me. She planted herself in my lap and made it known that she knew what to do. Her name was Deanna and was all of 4'11" with all natural, perky, full DDs with puffy nipples, a latina bubble butt and all on a small frame. She was cute as hell with a pretty face and hair. She was the nicest spinner I've ever seen in Nogales and that's saying alot for those familiar with my previous posts. I took her for a private dance just so I could explore that glorious body. I wasn't disappointed with her attitude or technique. Alas, I turned down sex because I knew I only had one eruption left in me for the day and I didn't want to give it up on my first dancer of the night. LL, this is a MUST see when you visit. And I didn't spoil her, although I wish I had.

Meanwhile, AZrobert found his "girl of the night" and headed off for entertainment to the private rooms. Before leaving, I could see that she certainly had the right attitude.

Placers
AZrobert wanted to head to Placers to see a dancer he had met the previous weekend. He found her and went off to do his thing in the private room. I found my new atf chica, Alexia (Sheila has retired, again, alas). She's a tall, sculpted and toned very feminine hardbody. It might very well be the nicest body I've ever seen in Nogales. She is from Tijuana and is halfway through a two-month visit to Placers (same owner as her TJ home club). She hates Nogales and can't wait to leave. I told her that with her body and looks, she'd make a fortune in the US. We discussed possible arrangements for her coming to Tucson. I think AZrobert agrees that she'd be a huge moneymaker in the states and a welcome houseguest for any guy.

Note to reader: The rest of the evening's description is going to sound a bit self-serving. I know it and I know what you think of it, but it accurately describes the activities and how I'm able to get what I want in almost any strip club.



I took Alexia upstairs for a private dance. All the while I was thinking that this is the one I'd be creaming with my last ejaculation of the day. What a surprise I had when that didn't happen exactly like I expected. I bought one private dance to get warmed up with her and to make sure she was "the one!" It was my intention to get the full service room if the private dance worked out. Well, it worked out, but not the way I thought it would. She knew exactly how to use that body of hers to get me excited. The thing is, once I got excited, she began playing with my dick (still in my pants at this point) and she became excited. As she played with my dick, she was making sounds to indicate that she was getting turned on and her body temp was rising. She stuck my finger in her mouth to moisten it then guided it to her pussy and rubbed my finger against her pussy until it slipped into the juicy interior. Now she was losing control and my dance time was up. I hurriedly bought another private dance because I didn't want to lose the moment. She went right back to her position and we resumed our heavenly exploration. She unzipped my pants (this is a no-no in this club) and brought out the weaponry and began full-fledged dick worshipping. She was very excited and she straddled me, cradled my dick in her two hands and began sliding her pussy up and down the shaft. Now the time was up again. She yelled at the guy to leave her alone. We were now into our third private session and she was using my dick to get herself off. She kept sliding her pussy up and down the shaft of my dick while holding it against her with her two hands until she exploded in climax and collapsed in my chest. I could feel her juices flowing around my exposed dick and leaving my pants wet. She took a minute to compose herself then replaced my dick in my pants. Now I wanted to fuck her more than ever, but I could she that she was exhausted. I never stuck my dick in her and I never came, but it was one of the greatest private dances I've ever had. That body, the emotions, the chemistry, the attitude all came together in the perfect moment for a non-full service encounter. The proof that it was good for her was, when I was leaving, the gatekeeper asked for the fee for the third session (and a tip, naturally) and she told him that she'd take care of it and indicated to me to put my wallet away. We exchanged contact info. I hope I see her again because she's a keeper.

Club 69 (Lipsticks)
AZrobert didn't have as good an experience at Placers so we left and headed to Club 69, the old Lipsticks. It's had a major, expensive remodeling. I have to admit, the place is amazing. Not like the old Lipsticks at all. When we walked in the door the first dancer I saw was the long-time Nogales diva, Monserrat. For those that don't know Monserrat, she is the quintessential Latina with the gorgeous figure, all natural 44-46Fs, juicy butt, long black hair, dark eyes, full lips, and a "come fuck me" attitude. AZrobert knows her and has history with her. I've known her since about 1993-94, I think. She's worked at various clubs over the years, but was the mainstay at Lipsticks until Rios opened then she became the diva of that establishment until it closed. Seeing Monserrat was like a homecoming for me and she made herself at home with the two of us and caught up on old times. She planted herself in my lap and immediately began playing with me while carrying on a conversation with the two of us. Still worked up and dazed from my previous encounter at Placers, it didn't take me long to know that Monserrat was going to be the recipient of my jiz tonight. I didn't want to pay full price for sex. I didn't even want to pay for a hj or bj. So, when she and I got to the check-in counter (that's the only way to describe it) for the privates I told them I wanted three privates. They quoted me $75. I said I'd do three for $60 and they agreed. (Shock!) Once we got into the room, Monserrat knew exactly what to do. She now recognized my dick and remembered what we used to do. She began giving me a bbbj. I told her that I'd take care of her if she wanted to do what we used to do for old time's sake. She did. We traded places and she sat in the chair while I stood over her and she took my dick in her mouth. I grabbed her head and began a gagging, slobbering, fuck-me-to-tears, full-force face fucking. Her tits were jiggling all over the place, one hand was rubbing her clit and her other hand was on my hip. It was a Mexican skull fuck the likes of which I hadn't experienced in years. I exploded in her mouth, just like the old days, and she swallowed and sucked/licked me clean. She required some makeup repair and we straightened ourselves up and went back to our seat in the club. I ended up buying her six chica drinks as her payment while she sat in my lap and let me play with her tits and ass. It was amazing. I'm still recovering from it.

Candy Club (Obsessions)
Even after the Monserrat episode, AZrobert and I went to Obsessions. I needed to deliver greetings to a couple of dancers from a friend so we headed over the tracks. The dancers I was looking for weren't working (I asked...sorry LL), but the ever-present Abe was. Abe is the floor pimp/manager who grates on me. This night, however, he behaved himself. Two honeys were escorted to our laps. Mine was Ouki, a Japanese-Mexican (Abe said she was Chinese), a petite slim attractive Asian. I'm not into Asian women, but this one had a nice personality and was already working on getting me aroused so I kept her and bought her a chica drink. Even though I was still recovering, she was successful in reviving Mr. Happy so we went back to the private booths for a dance. This girl was so slim (not in a bad, anorexic way, just genetically and proportionally tiny in an Asian way) that I couldn't help thinking that if I stuck my dick in her she'd split in two. We did the bump and grind and groping and she kept exclaiming about the size of my dick. After the dance I went back to my seat. She went and had a conversation with her friend and I could see from her gestures that she was telling her friend about the size of my dick. The next thing I know her friend, Sierra Marie, another petite Latina, was sitting in my lap and groping my dick. She showed off my dick to her friends who also stroked it. By now this was becoming a scene and embarrassing. But, my dick is how I usually get what I want in a club—US or Mexican—so I let it happen. I took this little dancer back for a private and she went to town on it (still in my pants) and I let my hands roam all over her cute little body. I knew there wasn't going to be another happy ending tonight, but I couldn't help being attracted to this girl.

AZrobert was having his own good fortune with a very pretty sweet young thing that I'm sure he'll be writing about. I think he might be back to see her again. I have to admit that I was also attracted to her and I never had her sitting in my lap.

AZrobert had to leave but I stayed and had a few more private sessions with Sierra Marie. During what was to be my last dance, I pulled my dick out and she went ballistic and made me put it back. That was when I knew that she wasn't going any further with me unless I paid for it. I didn't get my way with this one. I left and returned to the states.

It was a memorable evening. It was great meeting AZrobert. I found some great chicas to party with on my next visit and an old favorite that I'll be back to see again.

But, it was a more expensive adventure and less fulfilling than a Tucson experience. That's the bottom line.
Sexhobbyist

LoveLOS
11-05-07, 07:01
My friend SH,

Thank you for attempting the hookup. As much as I hate to do so, I will have to find either Luis or, God forbid, Abe to make a few calls for me.

Your Ouki would not, by chance, be my Superbowl queen (Ieuki) (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=36617), or maybe my ten (Yuki) (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=36890)?

I think there is one approach you are using to poor advantage in Nogi, and obviously employed because of your successful use in Tucson--Privados. I have to agree with the $20 analogy, and the relatively low mileage in Nogi. Privados are a very high priced tease.

I noted with interest some truly excellent reports where MM spent an absolute fortune for like six bjs and the thrill of giving some facials. YMMV, but that is not my shot of tequila.

The $180 experience...
My approach is tactically similar on the main floor. Find a girl who wants to party! If she wants to have a good time, let the good times roll. It usually takes a ladies drink, maybe two to make sure the chemistry is right. If a girl can't make LoveLOS want to fuck her in 20 minutes, she is either not his type at all, or she simply isn't trying hard enough. At that point I make a decision. Send her on her way - or off to the races. I don't fuck around with a privado to see if you want it. Fuck that--do like you did in 69 every time... Get enough dances to finish, or better yet, get a room.

Here is the rationale:
1. You want sex, good sex.
2. She wants to sell sex, and usually that requres her to upsell--a buzz kill for both parties.
The Solution: Buy the sex and get past the bullshit while everybody is in the party mood and nobody is put off by tedious negotiations. If you can keep her in the party mood, you will have a hell of a time!

A couple things I do when I am familiar with a bar that helps:
1. I negotiate the price I want to pay for a girl with the pimp guy before I meet any girls. If the girl won't play in my room for that money, I don't want her brought over. There is never any haggling with the girl, just a nod of the head that I'm ready to take her out.
2.I also make sure the pimps know that milking me for ladies drinks is a good way to get me to leave.

In the past three years (wherein I took nearly 30 women well over 40 times), I think I took only about six or seven privados and only twice that they did not result in ejaculation.

My take is that the $180 experience is very similar to the $180 experience in the USA--albeit your little empire that is Tucson strip clubs makes mockery of anything Nogales. I guess too it would be a bit below the belt to consider the cost of building the aforementioned empire makes your calculations even out a bit in the long haul.

Last year's trip was hard to beat in terms of sheer debauchery, and it is my goal to make each year a bit more outrageous. I believe the only way to do this is spend a good amount of time in Tucson VIP rooms tearing thru SH's harem. Then dragging him, kicking and screaming, back to Nogi for some serious, LL-style partying, (and probably even letting SH tear thru some of my harem). :D

Oh yes, I know you were down to one shot so you wanted it to be just right... Shame on you. I know you are good for three shots a night--so I bet you were using some ammo on the USA side... Tsk tsk.

Great report, I look forward to living it.

92
LL

SexHobbyist
11-07-07, 22:11
My friend SH,

Thank you for attempting the hookup. As much as I hate to do so, I will have to find either Luis or, God forbid, Abe to make a few calls for me.

Your Ouki would not, by chance, be my Superbowl queen (Ieuki) (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=36617), or maybe my ten (Yuki) (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=36890)?

I think there is one approach you are using to poor advantage in Nogi, and obviously employed because of your successful use in Tucson--Privados. I have to agree with the $20 analogy, and the relatively low mileage in Nogi. Privados are a very high priced tease.

I noted with interest some truly excellent reports where MM spent an absolute fortune for like six bjs and the thrill of giving some facials. YMMV, but that is not my shot of tequila.

The $180 experience...
My approach is tactically similar on the main floor. Find a girl who wants to party! If she wants to have a good time, let the good times roll. It usually takes a ladies drink, maybe two to make sure the chemistry is right. If a girl can't make LoveLOS want to fuck her in 20 minutes, she is either not his type at all, or she simply isn't trying hard enough. At that point I make a decision. Send her on her way - or off to the races. I don't fuck around with a privado to see if you want it. Fuck that--do like you did in 69 every time... Get enough dances to finish, or better yet, get a room.

Here is the rationale:
1. You want sex, good sex.
2. She wants to sell sex, and usually that requres her to upsell--a buzz kill for both parties.
The Solution: Buy the sex and get past the bullshit while everybody is in the party mood and nobody is put off by tedious negotiations. If you can keep her in the party mood, you will have a hell of a time!

A couple things I do when I am familiar with a bar that helps:
1. I negotiate the price I want to pay for a girl with the pimp guy before I meet any girls. If the girl won't play in my room for that money, I don't want her brought over. There is never any haggling with the girl, just a nod of the head that I'm ready to take her out.
2.I also make sure the pimps know that milking me for ladies drinks is a good way to get me to leave.

In the past three years (wherein I took nearly 30 women well over 40 times), I think I took only about six or seven privados and only twice that they did not result in ejaculation.

My take is that the $180 experience is very similar to the $180 experience in the USA--albeit your little empire that is Tucson strip clubs makes mockery of anything Nogales. I guess too it would be a bit below the belt to consider the cost of building the aforementioned empire makes your calculations even out a bit in the long haul.

Last year's trip was hard to beat in terms of sheer debauchery, and it is my goal to make each year a bit more outrageous. I believe the only way to do this is spend a good amount of time in Tucson VIP rooms tearing thru SH's harem. Then dragging him, kicking and screaming, back to Nogi for some serious, LL-style partying, (and probably even letting SH tear thru some of my harem). :D

Oh yes, I know you were down to one shot so you wanted it to be just right... Shame on you. I know you are good for three shots a night--so I bet you were using some ammo on the USA side... Tsk tsk.

Great report, I look forward to living it.

92
LL

The Ouki (spelling?) I found is not the same as the two in your pics. Mine is very Asian with no Latin blood in her. It was so strange seeing such an obvious Asian speaking Spanish. My Ouki is thinner than the ones in your pics mine has features that are more Asian.

I understand the waste that is the privados. For me, they are fun just to see how far the dancer goes once she sees what she's working with. I've been able to use that technique to my advantage many times in Nogales clubs in the past and, of course, US clubs regularly. I use them to find out if the dancer is going to be turned on or turned off by the equipment at her disposal before finding out after I've paid big money that she's not able to handle me.

Skipping the privados completely is an option. Just go from lap sitting/playing to the sex room. My problem with that is that on more than one occassion I've gotten to the sex room only to find out that the girl has restrictions or isn't interested in various techniques or won't perform. The privados help alleviate some of the anxiety of the dancer and help me determine who has the right attitude. Poor AZrobert got a dancer who was doing all the right things while sitting in his lap, but once she was in the privado, she was an ice queen with a "don't touch" policy. I'd hate to see what would of happened if he went straight from the lap-sitting and drink to full service only to have her cop an attitude like that. Privados have their purpose and I use them for intelligence gathering and for "envelope pushing."

I'm of the mentality that I have to find the girl first before buying the sex ticket. I don't want to buy the sex ticket only to not find the right chica and have to use up the ticket on a lesser choice.

Obviously, there are several ways to approach the Nogales club scene. The best method is the one that works best for the individual monger. But, there is no such thing as $180 full service in Nogales. See my next post.
Sexhobbyist

SexHobbyist
11-07-07, 22:16
My friend SH,

Last year's trip was hard to beat in terms of sheer debauchery, and it is my goal to make each year a bit more outrageous. I believe the only way to do this is spend a good amount of time in Tucson VIP rooms tearing thru SH's harem. Then dragging him, kicking and screaming, back to Nogi for some serious, LL-style partying, (and probably even letting SH tear thru some of my harem). :D
LL

I'm happy to share my harem with such an esteemed colleague. As a matter of fact, I'll introduce you to them individually. I do so willingly because you know I'll be ripping through your private stock when I come to your neighborhood next August. :D
Sexhobbyist

SexHobbyist
11-07-07, 22:22
My recent trip to Nogales cost me:
$275 for private dances
$55 dancer tips
$135 dancer drinks
$14 my drinks
$13 cover charges
$25 various tips
TOTAL: $517

Add to the total $30 gasoline and 2 1/2 hours commute.

All that money and I never got laid. Yes, I had some terrific experiences, but my dick never penetrated pussy. If it wasn't for the face fuck from Monserrat, I'd have nothing to show for the trip except a dancer's phone number. (Sigh).

My cost-per-climax was $517+.

For the same amount of money I could have stayed in Tucson, had fun with several dancers including fs from two or three of them, and saved myself the gasoline and commute. My cost-per-climax would have been about $175 x 3 climaxes (that includes actually getting laid a couple of times! Throw in a bj, and it's a good night for any monger at that total package price.).

The $180 full-service experience in Nogales does not cost $180. It costs about $230+ by the time you figure cover charges, tips, gasoline, and drinks. Cost-per-climax = $230.

Here's the difference. In Tucson, the dancer is in charge of deciding full service. In Nogales, the customer is in charge of deciding full service. In Tucson, it takes some money and initiative to find the sex partner. For some, the chase and the unknown is part of the excitement and worth the fun and dollars.

In Nogales, there is no question that you're going to get laid by whoever you pick. For that privilege, though, you pay the premium. And knowing you're getting laid by whoever you pick takes some of the challenge out of it for some of us (I've heard it described as "lazy man's mongering.")

The Tucson dancer is fucking you because she wants to (it's her choice). The Nogales chica is fucking you because she has to (because you picked her). My mongering philosophy is: I prefer women fuck me because they want to. So I play in Tucson. More so now that gasoline prices are going up again.

Sexhobbyist

Kruzah Lad
11-07-07, 22:27
Thanks for this EXCELLENT accounting. You have me thinking in an entirely different sense than before. I find money to be a serious issue in this pastime...


My recent trip to Nogales cost me:
$275 for private dances
$55 dancer tips
$135 dancer drinks
$14 my drinks
$13 cover charges
$25 various tips
TOTAL: $517

Add to the total $30 gasoline and 2 1/2 hours commute.

All that money and I never got laid. Yes, I had some terrific experiences, but my dick never penetrated pussy. If it wasn't for the face fuck from Monserrat, I'd have nothing to show for the trip except a dancer's phone number. (Sigh).

My cost-per-climax was $517+.

For the same amount of money I could have stayed in Tucson, had fun with several dancers including fs from two or three of them, and saved myself the gasoline and commute. My cost-per-climax would have been about $175 x 3 climaxes (that includes actually getting laid a couple of times! Throw in a bj, and it's a good night for any monger at that total package price.).

The $180 full-service experience in Nogales does not cost $180. It costs about $230+ by the time you figure cover charges, tips, gasoline, and drinks. Cost-per-climax = $230.

Here's the difference. In Tucson, the dancer is in charge of deciding full service. In Nogales, the customer is in charge of deciding full service. In Tucson, it takes some money and initiative to find the sex partner. For some, the chase and the unknown is part of the excitement and worth the fun and dollars.

In Nogales, there is no question that you're going to get laid by whoever you pick. For that privilege, though, you pay the premium. And knowing you're getting laid by whoever you pick takes some of the challenge out of it for some of us (I've heard it described as "lazy man's mongering.")

The Tucson dancer is fucking you because she wants to (it's her choice). The Nogales chica is fucking you because she has to (because you picked her). My mongering philosophy is: I prefer women fuck me because they want to. So I play in Tucson. More so now that gasoline prices are going up again.

Sexhobbyist

Marelobo Mex
11-29-07, 16:13
Wow,

Guys great to see some comments on this board, I had stopped checking it as there was little new.

Marelobo

Marelobo Mex
11-29-07, 16:24
Great reporting brotha.

And they are real... :p

LLLl,

Well I will take you word on that, but they didn't feel right to me. Most of the girls had perky, stand at attention, poke your eye out tits. Cyalti seems to droop in a very unnatural way, especially for a 20 year old.

They seemed like they were B-cups to me, but maybe they were C-cups. I know I have an unnatural responce to big tits or poorly proportioned tits. Either way it wasn't working for me.

She does have a smoking hot body and lots of other guys were pefectly happy with her.

How is her blowjob? She asked me twice if she could do one for me, and each time she had a sparkle in her eyes that said she knew she would do a good one. I regrett a bit I didn't try that out when I was there.

Also looking at her picture I see she has dark hair that is dyed blond. I didn't pick up on that in the club, although I was suspicious about blond hair. So fake hair, possibly fake tits. It all feels like not my thing.

Marelobo

PS. I think your reports are excellent. Filled with nuggets of useful information and also dripping with a sense of reality which makes it clear you lived those things and enjoyed them. There is none of the clinical or vague writing style that many posts contain. Keep up the reports I have even gone back and read some of you older ones.

Marelobo Mex
11-29-07, 17:06
$20 in a Nogales club buys you. (wait for it). Nothing. Zero. Zilch. Nada. The minimum price to play south of the border is $23 (plus tips). What does $23 buy you? It gets you six minutes in a small room—often described as closets although they've become somewhat bigger and more accommodating—where the dancer will grind your crotch and you can grope her t&a. That's it. No HJ. No BJ. ("That's biiiiig money, señor. ") The HJ, included in the price of the dance in a Tucson club, is $100 in Nogales. The BJ is $130. The going rate for full service is $180. Are you beginning to see why the Tucson mongers stay close to home?

Back to the report: So, you can't take your dick out of your pants, you can't have a fulfilling experience, and you can't expect extras without paying extra.

My Nogales club methodology is to sit and wait for some sweet thing to plant herself in my lap.

AZrobert and I visited four clubs—Boleros, Placers, Club 69 (formerly Lipsticks), and Candy Club (formerly Obsessions). I had great dancer experiences all night long with one exception in Boleros where I lustily went after a beauty with no talent when I saw her on stage for the "cattle call" instead of trying her out first.

AZrobert was having his own good fortune with a very pretty sweet young thing that I'm sure he'll be writing about. I think he might be back to see her again. I have to admit that I was also attracted to her and I never had her sitting in my lap.

SexhobbyistSH. Great report. I cut out parts of it for the quote.

I think you make the points well that for Tuscon residents Nogales is a poor choice. Althought to have the success you have had, I would guess you have invest some time and money into one of the clubs to build the relationship with the girls. It might be difficult for a visitor to achieve your success.

I completely agree with you the not taking your pants off is a major step backward. Not sure when they started that policy. However I found dick action was still quite possible. Venus and Jacklene had my dick out on the main floor just stroking away for 10 or 15 minutes at a time. They started out sitting with their legs over my lap and then leaving a space between their legs and my stomach, so they could take my dick out and stroke at it. In both case after a few minutes this position became very uncomfortable for them and they put there legs down and were just much more openly stroking it. I have never been a shy person so was comfortable with it. I normally wear basketball shorts that are about two size too big. It looks kind of silly on me, but I don’t really care. In the privado that first thing Venus did was untie them and fish my dick out. As for Jacklene she preferred to bunch them up and push them off to one side, giving her good access. A number of other girls did similar things, maybe 40%. Although they often waited partially into the dance to do that.

I find a lot of girls prefer a less aggressive approach and like to be called over. Some are nasty hot and others are completely cold. I never know until I try.

SH, I understand you didn’t get the value you wanted for your money. However reading your report it makes me think you had a great time. Bolieros had a totally hot girl. Placer a chica who might come and stay with you and came all over you in the club. Club 69 an awemsome face fuck. Candy Club two hot girls. I am curious if in the US clubs, you would have been able to get the face fuck or the girl cumming on you? That seems much more prevelant in Mexico that the US.

Also one more questions. I think it is awesome you have a dick like a baseball bat. I would think that opens up many opportunities for you that are not available to other guys. I would love it if a girl grabbed my dick and thinks wow, I want to put that inside me and see what it feels like. However, in my case I have an average size dick, and when she grabs it she likely thinks, about the same as my last five or six boyfriends, nothing to get to wet over. I wonder if I would have as much success in Tuscon I you do?

AZ will you be posting a report. I would be interested to read it.

Marelobo

Marelobo Mex
11-29-07, 17:51
Ll and SH,

Last couple of posts where really great. Lots of good stuff to think about. Before I offer my opionions, I wanted to pay homage to you. As I am clearly a neophyte, compared with you guys. You probably have as much experience in a single year as I have in my whole life.

I never went for the pay pussy scene until I got into my 30’s and have participated for a few isolated days every couple of years. In my 20’s there always seemed to be lots of hot women around (especially in college there were always 20-30 girls I knew that I would like to fuck, and going to the local bar I was likely to run into one of them), and as I got older the quantity of women didn’t decline, but the quality seemed to. Having passed 40 a few years back, I am also not in the shape I was in my 20’s and understand why those hot, hard bodied, young girls are not available to me.

As a relative rookie, I don’t understand all of the focus on price per pop. Shouldn’t it be value for the money. Once you enter the pay scene you know you are going to pay something, whether it is $50, $100, $200. Even so called free girls, when you start to add in dinner, movies, dancing, flowers, cards, little gifts, the price seems about the same.

On my last trip I spent between $400. $600 dollars a day, and spent between 6 – 8 hours a day in the clubs. So my calculation is that works out to about $70 for an hour of entertainment. That seems reasonable value to me and a better deal than some fancy restaurants, theatre or gambling trips.

I never paid the asking price, except for the threesome, and that was probably a mistake. I am not much of a drinker, so when I was in the club I only bought 1 or at most two drinks for me. I rarely bought a lady drink, except for the hour right after cumming. There is no sense paying her to dance if I can’t give her something to grind against. As for the dances I couldn’t deal with all the singles and making change. I just paid $25, and told the guys to keep the change it was a tip for more time (propina por mas tiempo con chica). I wasn’t timing my session but they seemed much longer than six minutes to me. I woud guess average is 10 minutes and sometime 15. I would say $23 for 6 minutes or $25 for 10 minutes seems like a good deal to me.

If the idea is really keep the costs as low per pop, why not walk into the club and take the first girl and fuck her. Then leave. That minimizes the cost. I like the idea that they need to spend two hours getting me turned on. I also like that it isn’t just one girl, but 4 or 6 girls working to get me hard. I like watching the stage show, talking to the girls and feeling them up. That goes for sucking on their tits and feeling their pussies. With cumming on their faces this was a really good strategy. As two hours of stimulation built up a huge load so I could really cover them with a thick spray. I understand this might not be fun for some guys but for me it was great. I agree fluid release is a major necessity of the experience but all the other parts of the experience are enjoyable for me also, even the negotiating.

I can’t tell the difference between a strippers pussy and a free girls pussy, especially if I am the one pounding away. Cowgirl a stripper might be a little better. When it come to the blowjobs, I think there is a huge difference. Maybe it is just the girls I know but they seem to give poor to mediocre blowjobs and they get shorter and less frequent the longer you know the girl. Where as strippers seem much better and are happy to suck away for long periods of time. So I prefer to go for that option.

I also find the women in my regular life need to be romanced out of their panties, and like to be persuaded or give in to having sex. Where as I think strippers have better understanding of their sexual power, and Latinas in particular display sexual power. And are happy to communicate the like sex and they want to orgasm.

Lastly I like to go and feel up the tight hard bodies. Certainly I want to cum. I can only do that so many times. But I would like to feel up 5 girls for every one that gets me off.

My warped way of looking at the world is the Mexican girls have the tight bodies I like, are in control of their sexual power which makes them fun to be around, and will give me one or two really great blowjobs. It seems like a good deal. Then I contentedly return to regular sex with girls my own age who like romance.

I am sure there is much I still have to learn, and my opinions may seem silly to experienced guys. Perhaps one day I will get the chance to hang out with you and can learn from your knowledge the things I don’t yet understand.

Marelobo

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Azrobert
12-02-07, 05:48
There is not a lot that I could add to SH's reports. He reported the evening exactly as it happened. My outlook is similar to yours, I enjoy the variety of girls and seeing how hard they will work to get you to the private room, usually a good indication of how they will perform.

Gone are the days when you could find the one you wanted and get fs for 1 or 2 private dances and 40 to the girl. (I miss those days) My financial situation has greatly improved since those days but it still seems to be a waste of money to go there strictly to get laid. If you enjoy the smorgasbord of hot girls and a lot of grinding (as I occasionally do) then it is a great place to go once in a while.

In fact I will probably be heading down on Monday or Tuesday this week. Each club seems to have a favorite to me (I think they plan it that way) but I am looking forward to visiting Candy Club again, I hadn’t been there in about 5 years and I must say that it was a vast improvement from the Obsessions I remember.

TylerPerelli
12-18-07, 07:01
AZ Robert, LoveLOS, SexHobbyist,

You guys are legends.

Just re-joined the board. Able to post international, yet having trouble on the U.S. Forum.

Also, I am certain I contributed about 2-4 years ago in both the Nogales and Cabo San Lucas threads.

I promise to RTFF, yet am computer illiterate.

Hell, I still have photos on my phone to download to a computer.

Worse yet, it took me awhile to realize I could use "reply all" versus cutting and pasting all the names (granted this was a few years ago).

TylerPerelli
12-18-07, 07:31
This is my first report ever. Saved it to an e-mail. Not certain what forum I originally posted in:

By Tylerperelli on Friday, November 28, 2003. 04:12 pm: Edit

This sight has proved very interesting. My "guide" recommended it to me after seeing some Nogales regulars during one of our stops.

Some guys were expressing their disappointment in being unable to rent a Cadillac on the weekend the auto races were in PHX. One had intended on celebrating his b-day in Nogales.

Having been there once briefly during the day and buying some jewelry and watching my acquaintance pick up some items, I asked what the big deal was.

Now I know! Strip clubs with attractive women who let you grab ass and let both their and your hands roam during lappies. Hummers and screws available in private rooms if you desire. Nice!

Still apprehensive about being a gringo crossing the border after hearing many horror stories, I was glad they recommended a website dedicated to strip club mongers. Ladies of nogales.

Ben called my cell after an e-mail and I felt comfortable knowing I would have someone who knew the scene showing me the clubs. In my book, the tour was well worth the price for piece of mind. We also never paid a cover and had top level service at the clubs.

Parking across from BK, we walked across and headed to Boliero. A local hassled us the whole way even though we new where we were headed. A couple average girls provided adequate lappies, and a waitress caught my eye. She looked new and knowing the waitresses have less milage, I was intrigued. The host/waiter called her over, yet I told her no for the moment, wanting to bide my time.

We headed to Lord Black, snagging a couple great asada tacos en route. We passed Placers and he pointed out Fernis. No need to go another street into town IMHO. Still being overly cautious.

A couple girls at LB caught my attention, and I rec'd a lap dance that had my soldier come to attention. All worked up I wanted to go back to Boliero and tap the waitress. We get back and someone has her already. Not just in the private room, but the VIP area. Damn!

A freaking "10" wearing a green outfit is onstage so I try to hail the waiter to get her. Again someone beat me to it and was off to the VIP with her.

Rushed, I ended up going for a private with Johana? Knowing I take a while, I think I got three tickets. She gave me a nice lap dance, slipped on a jimmy and gave some great head. This was for $30, and got her down to an additional $20 for a screw, telling her I still wished to finish in her mouth. She road me and then switched up and let me pound her from behind. Pumped for all I was worth, then told her to finish with more head. Had to buy more time and get a second condom. Got my nut as they were asking for more time.

Headed to Obsession and felt a rekindling in the loins. A young hottie with nice, real breasts was working me for a private. Knowing I had nutted, taken some pick-me-ups on the drive down, and had a couple mixed drinks, I hesitated.

Going for it, she proceeded to give me a great show. Head intermixed with dry hump lap dancing. Wish I had the bucks and time to screw her proper. Had to get extra time as I was stiff, yet couldn't nut.

Walked out and who is sitting there. My friends who started me on the whole idea of trying this. The asked if I had fun and and I grabbed my girl (who had gained the interest of everyone seated near them). She proceeded to tell them that the gringo had mucho grande package. Always nice to hear that you're well endowed for a white boy. Guess she enjoyed herself.

After an excellent sonoran hot dog, it was time to hit the road for the return trip to PHX.

Anxious to return, I hope to find some other strip club conissuers to hang with.

TylerPerelli
12-18-07, 08:44
Looks like I am able to post on both the U. S. Forum and international now!


AZ Robert, LoveLOS, SexHobbyist,

You guys are legends.

Just re-joined the board. Able to post international, yet having trouble on the U.S. Forum.

Also, I am certain I contributed about 2-4 years ago in both the Nogales and Cabo San Lucas threads.

I promise to RTFF, yet am computer illiterate.

Hell, I still have photos on my phone to download to a computer.

Worse yet, it took me awhile to realize I could use "reply all" versus cutting and pasting all the names (granted this was a few years ago).

SexHobbyist
12-23-07, 16:05
Sexhobbyist is thinking about doing Nogales once more before 2007 ends. I'm still in search of the perfect Nogie fs experience for less than the price of fs in Tucson. I'm thinking of going on Thursday, Friday, or Saturday (12/27, 12/28, or 12/29). PM me at the USASexGuide forum if any mongers want to meet up for a night on the town. Once I hear, I'll decide which night to go based on the responses.
Sexhobbyist

Todfather
12-27-07, 01:07
three of us okies are heading to tuscon for 3 days before heading up to glendale for the fiesta bowl. i've been to nogalas before in 1998. we are going down to go to the peeler bars close to the border. we could use a "guide". id at least be able to get you a ride, and buy the booze. sexhobbyist you looking for travel buddys? just let me know. should be an interesting new years! peace out todfather

back in 98 i went to rios and got 7 bjs in 6 hours. total cost booze gas dope and all. $440. lets go party.

SexHobbyist
12-27-07, 16:18
three of us okies are heading to tuscon for 3 days before heading up to glendale for the fiesta bowl. i've been to nogalas before in 1998. we are going down to go to the peeler bars close to the border. we could use a "guide". id at least be able to get you a ride, and buy the booze. sexhobbyist you looking for travel buddys? just let me know. should be an interesting new years! peace out todfather

back in 98 i went to rios and got 7 bjs in 6 hours. total cost booze gas dope and all. $440. lets go party.

sorry, but i've got other plans for the dates you're here. read this forum and enjoy your trip. i'm sure you'll find lots of action. take money and condoms.
sexhobbyist

TylerPerelli
01-01-08, 00:20
It is my hope to get to Nogales soon for an up to date report, eyt I found an oldie but goodie. This forum is tops and frowns on mentions of other sites and recycled reports, yet I hope the following is worthy.

The fact we were able to run a tab, have them fetch tacos to keep us from leaving, and the "extra" my friend got on round two amuse me. Ladies of Nogales and Club Hombre were useful back in 2003-2004, yet ISG is the place for info these days.

Here is my report from back in the day.

By Tylerperelli on Friday, January 30, 2004 - 03:58 pm: Edit

Anxious to return to Nogi after my first trip in November, I finally got my boys to commit. Problem is, we leave PHX after work in the evening and return about 4:30 am the next day.

Picked up my fellas, we'll call them Southside, Slugger, and Rapper; and headed south. The tunes were boomin' and the alcohol was flowin' when we stopped briefly in Marana/Tucson to pickup my amigo, Mutt.

Hit the border and headed to Boliero. Girls were on on laps in an instant...2 lookers, three average. Tequila shots for all and a couple Tecates for Mutt and I. Not warning my friends, they order the girls drinks when I wasn't paying attention.

Next thing I know, Southside, Slugger, and Rapper were all in privados. One hundred bucks a piece...66 for 3 tickets, 5 for condom, 30 for BJ. Slugger had Dulce? All came back satisfied ad two of three had FS and BJ, I think.

Mutt was hurting for cash, and I explained to him and others to negotiate. Buy the tickets from the waiter, negotiate price with the dancer.

Got an upstairs lappie from my girl, so I could ditch her for something else. Inquired about a nice looking spinner coming off stage, then grabbed Deb-o-rah for negotiating. Talked her down to 20 for the BJ, and headed downstairs.

This girl is petite, nice store bought C-cups with perky nipples, good legs and solid arse. Twenty minutes of mindblowing BJ commenced. Nice!

Talked to the waiter to negotiate Mutt's girl down to 10 for a BJ with a three ticket privado. Off they went...she liked him anyway...he had rec'd a hj for one ticket already. He bought extra time with the 3 ticket deal and $10 BJ I negotiated for him and got FS as well. His girl was a really cute spinner...didn't get her name...spoke NO English.

Rapper decided on a second round. Took a brickhouse of a girl, Sugi? She had a solid body and was the consensus top looker in the place. My Deborah, a close second. Rapper paid 120 for FS including the privados. Apparently she inserted her pinkie in his back door,which we teased him about on the way home.

Since Deborah had only given me head, with no FS, my ego had me inquiring why she told me it was that time of month. Another girl and a waiter backed her story. Now I realize she thought I wanted it for no additional money.

Got a lappie from her and now she wants me to fuck her. Off to the basement we go. Head, fuck, more head, more fuck...she had promised me twenty minutes of solid screwing, and we went at it for thirty. In addition she gave incredible head between positions, and to finish me.

She came while riding me facing away, those breasts felt nice in my hand. As I was giving it to her for all I was worth doggie, her up in the chair kind of bent over, she's exclaiming "I'm cumming, I'm cumming!" Feeling her tighten around me was nice!

When we first went downstrairs for round two, my friend is leaving and hitting me up for 30 for his time extensions (I'd spotted him for the 70...3 privates and BJ). Dude, I've got six bucks left, as I'm going for round two myself!

Upstairs we are getting ready to checkout. Johanna, my 1st Nogi BJ and FS from November is there. Deborah makes it a point to mention that she had "two orgasmo...uh, orgasms" and really enjoyed our session. I told her I'd see her again and said "So you liked grande package an had two nice orgasms, huh?" My friends overhear, and she jokingly zips her lip and goes "sh!"

Earlier in the evening, my buddies had the waiters go to the taco stand down the street twice and fetch us plates of tacos.

At checkout time, the head waiter is hitting me up for the 30 due from Mutt (who had went to the van to fetch my credit card...I only take ID and cash across). In addition, they say we have 11 drinks for girls and 6 bottled waters. Mutt's girl says she only had five drinks and we confirm two others. I thought Mutt had bought my and his beers, and the other guys the bottled water and their drinks; but NO...they had run a tab. Southside better plan on reimbursing me. He did pay our cover though. It seems they (Boliero staff) NAILED us on drinks for the girls, and the bottled waters; yet forgot our beers and tequila shots. As we go to leave Deborah stops me and tells everyone in earshot "I really like your dick!" As I'd already told her I'd be back I took it as a sincere compliment.

Lessons learned:

1)Explain to my friends to buy tickets only from the waiters and ask for two for ones. Also barter with the girls directly for the extras...the price will always go down.

2)Have my boys pay for their drinks as they go.

3)NO drinks for the girls...spend your money on lappies and privados.

4)Hold some cash back just in case...you want to be able to pay your way out of the club, and still should have some for anything you may encounter on the way back to the border line.

5)They asked if we were US citizen and typed our licence numbers in the computer. They did not even check under my friends jackets or ask if we had anything to declare...not that we did...just an observation.

6)Remind my boys that there are other clubs (Placers and Lord Blacks, no cover after Bolieros; as well as Obsessions). Some of these clubs may have some blondes, two for ones, stage shows, who knows?

7)While there were waiters, there were no waitresses that I noticed. Also there was a towel, gum, cigarette vendor in the mens room.
Quit picking up on the American capitalism Dammit!

All in all my friends all agree it was a great night and plan to repeat every couple months.

Deborah:
Looks: 8.5
Attitude: 8
Service: 9.5

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TylerPerelli
01-01-08, 00:27
yes, back in the day extras ran .3 to .5, on top of the "closet" fee.

one was required to purchase 3 "tickets"...a ticket granted 6 minutes in the closet and was .2, then .22 became the price, and are sold by waiters (touts?).

the doorkeeper/timekeeper would garner his tip by requiring purchase of a cover for five dollars.

so, 66+5+30=101, rounded to $, used to be what it took.

apparently it is now $.5 to $.8 to schedule some fun.

hopefully time and money will allow me to take a few for the team soon. a couple peers are anxious to join the fun and a road trip is in the works.

Dkmoney
01-07-08, 02:42
New to the forums, I will be staying in Tucson for several weeks on business. Anyone going to Nogales this weekend? I would like to go, but don't want to go alone and would like someone to show me around.

Thanks for all the great info guys, can't wait to try it down there.

Gatoraide
01-11-08, 17:24
Parked at the EUTA and walked over about 6 pm. Went to La Conga to get the first one out of the way for. 6. Included no time limit and all positions. This place is not for those who care about looks, only for those who want a good price and for those like me who like to get the first one over with to allow for better mileage on the next ones.

After that headed to Obsessions and had FS with Brenda/Deborah. I can not remember her name. Price started at 2. , settled on 1. 4 for 1hr with room that had a couch. Price included tip. Looks 7, Service 7.

Next stop was Bolerios with Alondra. She is skinny with small tits. Looks 7, service 7. Price started at 180. Once again settle on 1. 4 for 1hr with a room down stairs accross from the ladys shower room. Price included tip.

Next was Placers. Price started at 1. 8. Settled on 1. 4 for LoveLos' Ieuki. Looks 7, Service 9. She was the nearest to GFE of all. The have a room around the corner up some stairs that include a bed, toilet, sink. Price included tip and 1 hour.

I would always say no on the first offer and say I wanted to enjoy my drink before doing anything. Usually by the time I finished they would come back with a lower offer. I would counter with $1. 3 and a 10 tip for 1 hour. Everyone took the offer in some form and all said not to tell anyone. Some I had to say I will give you 1. 4 which includes tip and they could figure out how to split it.

Called it a night at 2:00. Hope this helps.

TylerPerelli
01-18-08, 21:30
Was just over in the reportsa of distinction thread and rewad a report from MarlboroMex (06-09-07) about what he looks for when mongering...pure gospel...he is preaching to the chior, as we`are on the same page.

Anxious to return to Nogales, it may have to wait 'til after my Cabo trip in March. Here's hoping I have some good reports to share.

Edward M
01-26-08, 02:03
Is there a Nogales FAQ? I am looking for the basic rundown about how to get in, get out, and f*ck about. I have been reading through some posts and ROD and the ones I read seem to assume these facts. Thanks.

Dune 975
01-28-08, 05:53
Is there a Nogales FAQ? I am looking for the basic rundown about how to get in, get out, and f*ck about. I have been reading through some posts and ROD and the ones I read seem to assume these facts. Thanks.
There's a parallel Nogales thread under Arizona on the USA guide, even though we're talking about the Mexican city. One key post with the basics is http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=502393&postcount=56

LoveLOS
02-11-08, 02:49
Here's hoping I have some good reports to share.

Now, you have a good report to share... :D

___________________________________________________

Had a chat with USA customs guys. Here is the scoop:

Documents: Passport

OR

Gov't issued picture ID and Birth Cert (orig or certified copy)

But if you are just coming down for a night and you don't do it repeatedly, you can still get back home with just a Drivers License and a short lecture and you get a sheet with the new rules.

So tonight or tomorrow, for example, don't sweat that detail. How long that will work is anyone's guess. And may depend a lot on the ethnicity, of the person presenting himself as an American citizen. Ty and I look like gringos. Oh. BTW, Tyler and I tested the theory and it worked as stated above.

If you don't have my number but still want to risk LoveLOS ruining your life, probably the best way to locate me, much as I hate to say it, is to go to Obsessions and have Abe call or text me, text preferred since one cannot hear in a strip club. I'll be in Nogi about 8pm tonight until the morning. To be repeated manana.

LoveLOS

TylerPerelli
02-11-08, 07:45
LoveLOS and I bailed from CS in Tucson and headed to Nogales.

Lucky for the ladies he fucks better than he drives...heck he'd be putting it in their asses if not their ears. Dude can't remember where he put his car keys, ID card, room keys...good thing his dick is attached.

That said, the man is a legend, and I am indebted. It is great to share the experiences of successful mongering with someone who appreciates the nuances of the hobby. Having similar tastes was a bonus.

Not having done a thing in Tucson, (and he was a couple pops in when I caught up with him there) I was anxious to do some catching up.

He had promised a tout to check out Club 69 prior to settling in at Bolieros. Instantly I found a very young, petite, cute, blonde spinner. The guy with the tie (GWT) asked me about a $23 dollar privado. Negotiating, I soon had him doubling the five minute tickets (now $46 for twenty minutes).

Yet I want a bj...$.5, maybe $.0, as I continued to negotiate. An offer of fs (and bj) for $175 and thirty minutes was made. Doubting I can get my next two request I say 40 minutes to the GWT and bj uncovered to her. He says okay and so does she (after conferring with him).

SOLD! Even if she was just a tip of the dick fluffer versus a deep-throater, you seldom get a bbbj in Nogales. Telling the GWT, "I have a condom." (instead of the five dollars to the timer) he answers, "So does she."

The 22 year old ULETI and I proceed to the closet. Quickly she is nude and proceeds to kiss the tip (oh boy, here we go?). Nope, she puts it in her mouth and starts in. She's not deep throating, but it is adequate head. She ocassionally looks up and smiles that cute, young smile and kiss and lick the shaft. With my encouragement she sucks my balls periodically, taking the initiative to compliment that with her small hand stroking the shaft.

What a beautiful sight...she's sucking my balls and my cock is stretching across her cute face.

Trying to time the head at 20 minutes prior to multi positions, I get close to popping. She wants to ride, so on with the cover. She takes to much time during the transition and I go to 75% erect. We fix that and I proceed to try to enter a very tight pussy. Much to my dismay, I pop after about to full strokes.

She says we are done, I say we have another 20 minutes. GWT heads down the hall, and after I say I'll take care of her, wanting to hit it with a few positions. Much to my extreme embarrassment, 2nd erection not happening. Even a quick exit to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) doesn't help. She tries to work her magic on the balls again, with her hand, my hand...fuck, I got nothin'!

Still a nice time, yet I had wanted to drill her. Oh well, round one complete.

LL, who was joined by M once we sat down, is soon happy to have Weaponized Kryptonite join him as well. They've hatched a plan, yet before we are out the door, we get a photo of Uleti on his cell phone.

Round two coming up...

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

TylerPerelli
02-11-08, 07:46
I will be posting my reports when I can squeeze in more than a few hours of sleep. For those who did not join Tyler Tireguy and LL on our two-venue, 24hour, seven pop, six girl adventure, highlighted by a foursome with Two Ms LL's. OMFG.

*******see above quote from LL and thumbnail in Tucson thread*******

LL having plans with S, asks her if she'd like to eat first, having M and I join them. Apparently M hatches a plan of her own and we leave the club and M drives us to a nice Mexican place for dinner. S speaks fairly good English, and M understands it, yet doesn't speak it.

Dinner and conversation were great. We shared food, laughs, sarcasm, and more. S is just stunning, and M is just cute with a nice smile and great cleavage. S has a sense of humor with sarcastic with. LL is not the only one lovestruck by her.

***Note: I am using initials rather than names, until LL states the protocol. Tucson may rate more discretion than Nogales, yet better to play it safe. ***

Before we headed to dinner, LL let me a magic pill to counter my problem (first time its ever been necessary. First blue pill for me).

We get back to the hotel and it is on. Foursome (paired off, yet lots of voyerism. Had time allowed, a switch may have taken place). BJ's, DATY, 69, multi positions, some grabbing, kissing, and breast sucking of each others partners and many orgasms commenced.

There were sounds of pleasure evoked from all involved. Multi orgasms were had by all involved, with quite a few Magnums strewn about. Things were back to 100% for me, with S commenting that M ended up having made a great choice. After a couple orgasms for her, my girth was making it painful for her and she was sore.

It was hot to have S watch me pound M as she and LL took a break. LL soon had her in the throws of orgasm again though. The soreness of M was also likely another factor in why the switch didn't occur, as it had been mentioned.

Regardless, we were all very ecstatic about the outcome. Two hot latinas working with two expert cocksmen. What would one expect?

It was a night to remember.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

TylerPerelli
02-12-08, 04:15
Nice to see the "reports of distinction" recommendation. Woo-hoo!

edit to add: S=Sara, M=Melody

It is also nice to note I've become a 'senior member" on the USA board!

Kirstyforme
02-12-08, 21:53
Well, I've only lived in Tucson for over 20 years and finally made the trip to Nogales for some mongering entertainment. I may not have had the 'typical' club experience but I'm still reeling as I recount last night's activities.

I missed last week's anitcs with LL in Tucson but returned to town over the weekend. Caught up with LL in Tucson's CS club Monday afternoon in order to solidify plans for the Nogi visit Monday night. LL's Nogi visits are nothing short of legendary (I think he wrote the book) and I wasn't going to miss an opportunity to 'tag along' and see him in action.

Made the drive down and parked in the border lot a little before 10 pm (note: the lot isn't 'open' at this time but the gate is open. Never had to pay the $4 for parking, fwiw). LL had been in touch with his famed Sara several times since leaving Tucson and she had plans for our arrival. Turns out she was going to meet us at LL's hotel with a friend of hers. When they arrive I could instantly see the attraction between Sara and LL. Sara is a complete doll. Very pretty face, a killer smile, a great sense of humor (very good english, btw), and great curves to go with it all. With Sara tonight is Patricia. Also quite nice. Small blonde package with a great ass. LL and I exhanged looks and knew we would be having fun!

Sara took the lead and suggested we go out for some drinks so we climed in her car and made our way to a nice quiet bar. The four of us exchanged great conversation (has LL ever mention just how witty and funny Sara is? ) while enjoying several (who's counting) rounds of our favorite drinks. All the while I've got Patricia nestled beside me stroking my leg (s).

Fast forward a little bit and it's time to head back to the hotel (thanks LL for sharing your room with this fellow monger! ). Once bcd, the girls waste no time shedding their clothes (well, we didn't either) and it was time to explore each other's bodies. This monger and Patricia were cozied at the foot of the bed while LL and his Sara had the bed proper. As LL mentioned it was like living and watching your own porno! Patricia was a trooper and took all I could offer (in many positions) including a to-die for ass spanking! She really got off on getting that luscious ass spanked. After the deed was done, Patricia and I lay together cuddling for some time while exchanging some bits of personal info through my broken spanish. Who said there's no GFE in Nogales?

After a while, Patricia needs to leave and so Sara must say goodbye to LL (sorry about that! ). I'm sure LL will report on his own experience (or maybe not) but I DO know that he enjoyed his time (big grin). The girls get dressed and cleaned up and we say our goodbyes. Such sweet sorrow. A quick check of the clock reveals it's not quite 2AM so LL and I exchange an evil grin. Time to head to the clubs!

Now suffice it to say I've been in Nogi for going on 4 hrs at this point and I've yet to have the club experience. There's no way I would have made it this far without having such a guide as LL taking me under his wing. Many, many props to you, LL!

We decide to head to Boleiros and check up on the chicas there. Once inside a quck circle around the room to see who's around and another LL favorita finds him. She's charming him into a chair as he waves to me to head his way. He's got another suprise for me! I now am introduced to Alondra. She is drop dead gorgeous! Very tight body and super cute face. Alondra and I take up a chair next to LL and his chica and the fun begins. Alondra is guiding my hands to all parts of her anatomy. She seductively shows me her nicely shaved kitty and guides my fingers there to give me a taste of her wetness. All the while she's stroking my member and whispering to me how nice it is. Alondra is called to go on stage and LL informs me that he's planning to take his chica back to the hotel. I haven't checked out every girl in the place but have decided Alondra would be a nice round so inquire as to whether we can join them. A hearty yes! My kind of mongerer! LL helps me with the required financial information and when Alondra returns from her stage set we make the deal. A few minutes later she returns in her street clothes and the four of us are headed out the door for the hotel.

The earlier session was a nice warm-up but this round was even better. Two spinners and two mongers ready for action. No inhibitions being shown by any of the four of us. Alondra looked fantastic out of her clothes (side note: she has a smaller rack than some may prefer. I like a natural set regardless of size so I was in heaven). Now with my earlier activities in Tucson and Patricia I was on my fourth round with Alondra. She had no trouble however raising my member for her initial get to know you BJ! I was in awe with her and we wasted no time in suiting up and having her climb aboard. Watching her descend down upon my staff was a sight to behold (maybe LL can comment? ) as she is so tight and tiny. She let out a few gasps as I buried deep in her. Switching to doggie I was able to spy LL and his chica taking the same position from the other side of the bed. Talk about a kodak moment! Here's the two of us driving our swollen members deep inside the softest, wettest pussies in Nogales as we look at each other with huge grins across our faces. Let me tell you it doesn't get any better than that!

Alondra is panting heavily by now and gasping under her breath. I know I'm finding the right spots deep inside her but decide to give it to her in mish. She eagerly agrees and I'm thrusting deeper and deeper. I decide to give her a short break as my tongue works its way down her stomach to her quivering little pussy. Oh how tasty and wet she is. As I work away with my tongue and lips I truly believe she was enjoying herself and letting go. Alondra and I decide it's time for more mish and I climb aboard for more. As I'm going deeper and deeper with each thrust I feel her tightening around my cock like never before. She's now moaning 'dios mio, dios mio' in my ear and I feel her fingers clenched in my back as she's cumming hard! I decide now is the time to ride her to the end and give it my all until I explode! This was easily one of the best encounters I've ever had and will look to repeat somehow, some way again soon.

Alondra and I clean up and I give her a well deserved tip (maybe not entirely necessary but I was happy). LL is still enjoying his round so we decide to leave them undisturbed and I take Alondra back to the club. It's now going on 3AM and I've got to head back to Tucson. The crossing back to the US was uneventful thanks to several who have prepared me for what to take. This is a night I'll remember for some time.

Summary: Two separate complete GFE encounters along with great conversation, drinks, and no holds barred sex. Granted hotel was provided by LL along with the intel and starting points. Total outlay was $500 plus gas when all was said and done. Not a bad way to 'bust my cherry' in my book!

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TylerPerelli
02-13-08, 04:13
LL is the man!

Kirsty4me, glad LL showed you a time along the likes of what he showed me a night or two earlier. Excellent trip report! Well done!

LoveLOS
02-26-08, 22:35
This report will be deleted by the author in a few days.

For personal, financial, and security reasons, LoveLOS will be in retirement very soon. Tonight, Wednesday, and Thursday will be the last time anybody who wants to live the dream (or nightmare, depending on your point of view)Tyler and Kirsty have experienced can happen.

<<<<LoveLOS is going out in a party. Call me if you have my number. PM me on the USA Board if not. Remember I have no convenient internet connection here, so best of luck.

LoveLOS

Iguana Six
03-09-08, 02:30
Will be visiting Southern AZ tomorrow for a couple of weeks starting this Sunday the 9th. I'm an experienced monger, speak Spanish, but haven't been to Nogales. I'd like to hook up with a fellow hobbyist, and hope to meet some the starlets mentioned on this board like Sara.

Rio Rico
03-14-08, 00:40
A friend of mine are thinking of returning soon to Nogales after visiting the place several times last year.

Realize that the ladies come and go but wondering if anyone knows if Jacquelyn, a small hard body still works at 69,

And another hottie we enjoyed worked at Boleiros, taller, thin build with black hair went by the name Rachel

Would like to see them for old times sake, ha-ha

Randy

Sun08
03-22-08, 07:03
Hello,

Has anyone recently been to La Conga Club in Nogales? I may visit this place in the coming weeks and just need to know it is still there and not much has changed. Are there any other similar clubs in Nogales (I am not looking for Strip clubs).

Thanks

Marelobo Mex
03-22-08, 18:35
TylerPerelli and Kirstyforme

Great reports, it sounds like you had an excellent time. I am most jealous. Wish I was there to sample the fun.

LoveLOS, sorry to see you are retiring. This board will be a lot quieter without you. Hopefully you will change your mind.

MM

Marelobo Mex
03-22-08, 18:39
RR,

I was there last June and ran into a Jacquelyn at Boleiros. She has a small spinner body, but not hard, breasts and butt where kind of loose. She is 25 has three or four kids. Not sure if this is the same girl. She was nasty and liked all kinds of stuff.

I didn't meet and Rachel when I was there and checked pretty thoroughly.

MM


A friend of mine are thinking of returning soon to Nogales after visiting the place several times last year.

Realize that the ladies come and go but wondering if anyone knows if Jacquelyn, a small hard body still works at 69,

And another hottie we enjoyed worked at Boleiros, taller, thin build with black hair went by the name Rachel

Would like to see them for old times sake, ha-ha

Randy

SexHobbyist
03-29-08, 02:02
...on Saturday night. She's going to corrupt me by showing me the "inside" of the Nogie clubs and bars.

SH

Asslover77
05-08-08, 22:31
Is there a general consensus as to how much pussy hair is to be found on the Nogales chicas (TD clubs, La Conga, or Indy/Street Girls) nowadays?

I have not ventured down to Nogales (yet), but I really haven't read much about how much pussy hair the girls either have or do not have.

Obviously the 18-25 year old crowd would be less likely to have it, and the 30+ (and maybe the newest chicas to the profession) crowd would be more likely to have some/all of their beaver left intact.

I would love to hear the observations of the readers of this board.

Asslover77
05-08-08, 22:34
My hours of availability to monger are the direct opposite of the availability of the chica population. I work Monday-Friday, early morning to early afternoon, so if I were to take a day off and go down to Nogales (from Tucson) to monger, I have to be leaving Nogales (in my car) by about 3pm, at the latest.

With that restriction, and not knowing any Nogales chicas firsthand, I've been reading the board and trying to assess the best morning/lunchtime chica options. I can speak a bit of Spanish, though I need to practice/memorize some useful phrases. I could be down in Nogales, in search of chicas as early as 6am.

I've identified the following options:

-Using a street tout to locate a chica (as a last resort);
-Cherries and ???? bars;
-Some of the local bars near the TD bars (opening around 8am??);
-VIP Club, if it stays open very late (past the expected ~4am close);
-Watching some of the hotels listed on this board for chicas exiting a hotel room (the Munch Lunch hunting method) and walking funny.

I've read the complaints of how aggressive the touts can be, following you and offering help, as well as the reminder to avoid drug discussions entirely, but I haven't heard of any results of what kind of girls they have delivered to a paying customer. Has anyone had any chica results produced by a street tout to report? Has anyone used a street tout they would recommend?

I know touts aren't viewed positively on this board (certainly I'd prefer to find my own pussy, like everyone else), but my mongering hours of availability are so limited that I'm keeping that option available as a last resort.

Do any readers have street tout experiences (positive or negative) to report and/or suggestions of other places to locate morning/lunchtime pussy for sale in Nogales?

Mr Chub
05-09-08, 16:34
My observations on pussy hair has been that I have not come across any in the 6-7 years of mongering in Nogales. But I have only been in titty bars, not the SG or any other bars. I like that myself, me being pretty young (still in my 20's) and that is somewhat expected to see no bush. Also, I have not been with a chick who is no older than 30 so who knows if the older chicas don't shave the muff.

Personally, I have not been to Nogales earlier than noon but who knows if anything goes on that early. Touts have always approached me but not as much when I go venturing by myself. I 've found that if you are in a group (especially guys) it can be very annoying. Last time I was down there, I was able to walk past them but one came out of nowhere and was walking behind me and as I passed a hotel that was near Obsessions. I noticed a chick outside and gave the look. She was maybe a 6 but passed on her. I then stopped walking because as soon as I looked behind me a guy asked if I wanted to have her. Told him no but I asked him what bars were open. He told me Bolierios and I was on my way by myself.

That is probably my best experience with these guys but I am fluent in spanish and somewhat know my way to the strip joints so I can get rid of these guys(sometimes).

Hope this helps some. Have fun and take care,

Mr. C